[00:00] <Dragnslcr> tahirh- if you don't trust the user not to break anything, you shouldn't give them privileges to break anything
[00:00] <llutz> tahirh: user hardly need full root-access, so limit it  to your needs
[00:01] <llutz> tahirh: "man sudoers" gives you good examples how
[00:01] <llutz> to do it
[00:01] <tahirh> but they need root access just to install programs?
[00:01] <tahirh> very difficult ...
[00:02] <llutz> tahirh: users don't have to install programs outside $HOME
[00:02] <Dragnslcr> tahirh- sudo has pretty fine-grained control, so you can limit what commands any given user can run
[00:02] <tahirh> how?
[00:02] <llutz> tahirh: "man sudoers" gives you good examples how
[00:03] <tahirh> how do they install programs inside $HOME with say aptitude?
[00:03] <llutz> tahirh: they cannot and they don't have to
[00:06] <tahirh> llutz: please elaborate - you said they could install programs inside $HOME?
[00:06] <llutz> tahirh: not-systemwide-programs
[00:07] <tahirh> how can they install say "Google Earth" inside $HOME
[00:07] <llutz> download that crap from google, run installer, ready
[00:08] <llutz> tahirh: or: ask administrator to install it systemwide
[00:09] <tahirh> so they can install programs as a normal user but not system wide. I thought the prog always asked for a passwd to install.
[00:09] <Dragnslcr> apt does, because it installs the programs system-wide
[00:10] <tahirh> so as long as they download it to $HOME, they can install it in $HOME?
[00:10] <Dragnslcr> There may be a way to install packages to $HOME, but I'm not certain. Google probably knows, though
[00:10] <tahirh> without the need for a passwd. So they just need to find a website to download the prog from then run ./ and make ...
[00:11] <llutz> tahirh: lots of stuff comes as tar.gz/.run/.sh and can be installed locally.
[00:11] <Dragnslcr> And it would probably be a pain to keep updated
[00:11] <Dragnslcr> I think asking an admin to install it for them would be best. That way it will stay updated with the rest of the system
[00:11] <tahirh> llutz: I will let them know. local as in their desktop where they have rwx permissions?
[00:12] <tahirh> i have admin rights but I am new to linux!
[00:14] <Dragnslcr> Are you administering desktops for users?
[00:14] <tahirh> yes
[00:14] <Dragnslcr> Are you getting paid for it?
[00:14] <tahirh> but i am new
[00:14] <tahirh> yes
[00:15] <Dragnslcr> Then I'd say it would be best to have users ask you to install programs for them, that way you can keep track of what they're installing
[00:16] <tahirh> Dragnslcr: okay, a hassle though wish they could have sudo rights but too dangerous
[00:16] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, but look at this way. If they accidentally sudo rm the whole disk, you're the one that has to fix it
[00:17] <luis_> hello i need help, there is a error than is pissing me off at the moment of turning off the pc: just at the moment off shuting off, kubuntu goes to black screen and presents this: Unable to itirate IDE devices
[00:17] <luis_> i have to moe the mouse a little so it can shut down, but is annoying, because u cant let the laptop to auto turn off, can someone help me pls
[00:17] <luis_> move*
[00:17] <Dragnslcr> You could limit what they can run with sudo, e.g. only allow KPackageKit, but I don't know if I would trust "average" users that much
[00:17] <tahirh> or sudo rm -r * the whole filesystem on the whole mounted network!
[00:20] <luis_> ...
[00:24] <yamishi> hi all
[00:24] <pafnow> hi
[00:25] <yamishi> can someone help me with some video playing issues?
[00:28] <pafnow> yamishi: ask...
[00:30] <Xcelon> Hello, is this a help channel for kubuntu?
[00:31] <pafnow> Xcelon: yes, whatelse ?
[00:31] <Xcelon> ah, good there is life here
[00:31] <Xcelon> i have a question concerning a recent install of kubuntu
[00:32] <Xcelon> i ran the live cd on my laptop and everything seemed to work fine, but after doing the complete install my wireless fails to see any wireless networks
[00:33] <Xcelon> im not sure if it detected or installed my wireless card properly, or if there is some other problem
[00:34] <Xcelon> where can i see a list of installed hardware?
[00:34] <pafnow> # iwconfig
[00:35] <pafnow> #lspci
[00:35] <Xcelon> where is that?  more info please, im new to linux
[00:35] <yamishi> pafnow: a week ago i was able to play avi videos but since my little sister uninstalled some things on my computer i cant play any video
[00:36] <pafnow> Xcelon: you have to type this in a terminal
[00:36] <Xcelon> ok thanks, ill try it
[00:36] <pafnow> yamishi: what software do u use ?
[00:36] <yamishi> pafnow: u mean player?
[00:36] <pafnow> ye
[00:36] <pafnow> s
[00:37] <yamishi> pafnow: i've tried kplayer, dragon player and kaffeine
[00:37] <pafnow> yamishi: try vlc
[00:38] <pafnow> yamishi: u will need no codec
[00:38] <yamishi> Pafnow: oh that one too and it just plays the sound
[00:38] <Xcelon> wow, where is terminal hidden at?
[00:38] <pafnow> in kubuntu its the program named konsole
[00:39] <pafnow> alt+f2
[00:39] <pafnow> konsole
[00:39] <pafnow> enter
[00:39] <pafnow> yamishi: strange behaviour...
[00:39] <Xcelon> ok ty
[00:39] <pafnow> yamishi: have u tried smplayer ?
[00:39] <yamishi> pafnow: no
[00:40] <pafnow> yamishi: maybe it could work
[00:40] <yamishi> pafnow:i'll try
[00:40] <pafnow> yamishi: i use it, it's the same spirit as vlc
[00:40] <pafnow> but with more functionnalities
[00:41] <yamishi> pafnow: ok i'm installing it now
[00:42] <Xcelon> ok, iwconfig says wlan0 access point not associated, 0 link quality and signal level
[00:42] <pafnow> ok
[00:42] <pafnow> so your card is detected
[00:43] <Xcelon> cool, so it is something else?
[00:43] <pafnow> yes
[00:44] <pafnow> how do u proceed for the list ?
[00:44] <Xcelon> you want all the info?
[00:45] <Xcelon> IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:""
[00:45] <pafnow> no
[00:45] <pafnow> u use kde4 ?
[00:46] <Xcelon> i downloaded the latest version of kubuntu from the website, so whatever ver of KDE that is
[00:47] <pafnow> ok
[00:47] <pafnow> the fourth
[00:47] <Xcelon> i just noticed that under the lspci t shows  my wireless card
[00:47] <pafnow> so u have in the task bar an applet to connect to the networks (wifi or eth)
[00:47] <pafnow> do u see it ?
[00:47] <Xcelon> it shows my wireless card
[00:48] <Xcelon> yes
[00:48] <yamishi> pafnow: it said that the version i installed is obsolete and won't work well and didn't even played the audio
[00:48] <Xcelon> i see the wlan interface tab but it says unavailable
[00:48] <pafnow> yamishi: my god!
[00:49] <pafnow> what a mess
[00:49] <pafnow> !
[00:49] <Xcelon> lol
[00:49] <pafnow> Xcelon: maybe u have desactivated the wiif
[00:49] <pafnow> with a switch on your computer
[00:49] <yamishi> pafnow: i hate my lil sister =_=
[00:50] <pafnow> or via a small button in the previous panel
[00:50] <Xcelon> um i tried the key combo for activating the wireless but there is no diff
[00:51] <pafnow> i have to go
[00:51] <pafnow> there is a way to configure an hidden network
[00:51] <pafnow> if u know the ssid of yours maybe it is a solution
[00:51] <pafnow> good luck
[00:51] <pafnow> ++
[00:51] <Xcelon> like i said it worked fine with the live cd
[00:52] <Xcelon> thanks for the help anyways
[00:53] <Xcelon> im gonna try to reboot and see what that does
[00:54] <Xcelon> how many of you people are afk anyways?  lol
[00:55] <yamishi> i think that there are just 3 people that are not AFK
[00:55] <Xcelon> haha, thats crazy
[00:56] <Xcelon> they are all bots or something
[00:57] <aaron_> how hard would it be to compile a new version of the intel driver?
[00:57] <Xcelon> seems crazy to me that the live cd handled my wlan just fine but the full install wont
[00:58] <Xcelon> no idea, sounds complicated to me :)
[00:59] <aaron_> impossible complicated or hit your head against the keyboard a few times complicated?
[00:59] <aaron_> 'cause I'm already at the latter stage :-(
[00:59] <aaron_> actually, I'm thinking about upgrading to karmic in a few days when alpha3 comes out
[00:59] <aaron_> they have newer versions there
[01:00] <Xcelon> lol
[01:00] <Xcelon> i may have to go back to pclinuxos, it seemed to be more user friendly
[01:11] <VisCount> Anyone available for some Kubuntu help?
[01:12] <hereAndThere> hello all
[01:12] <hereAndThere> how do i go to the support channel for ubuntu ?
[01:13] <VisCount> well if i remmeber irc
[01:13] <VisCount> id say /join #ubuntu
[01:13] <hereAndThere> neat :)
[01:13] <hereAndThere> and how do i know what channels are there to join ? if i might be a n00b for a bit longer
[01:14] <VisCount> weeeeell
[01:14] <VisCount> typing /join #ubuntu will put u IN the ubuntu channel
[01:14] <VisCount> But fo related channels id imagine theyd have some sort of noticr when u get there
[01:14] <VisCount> This is just me guessing based on past experience, though.
[01:14] <VisCount> So give it a try and have a looky
[01:15] <BluesKaj> VisCount, in the server text box you do /list ubuntu to see what related chats with that name are on the server
[01:16] <VisCount> there ya go HaT
[01:17] <BluesKaj> err hereAndThere :)
[01:21] <hereAndThere> neat :D thanks alot they seem busy over there :)
[01:29] <Alumin_> I just installed Kubuntu Jaunty on a machine with two monitors...it's using both but it's displaying the same thing on both screens.  I went to the Display control panel and it shows both screens, but they're stacked on top of each other.  How can I get the system to use the monitors independently (one large desktop spanning both screens)?
[01:29] <Alumin_> if it makes any difference, this is with an ATI card that only has one actual output plug, and some kind of splitter cable connected to it that the monitors actually connect to
[01:30] <darthanubis> Alumin_: good lucky with that. Get a real video card, and I'm not trying to insult you.
[01:31] <darthanubis> !info xandr
[01:31] <Alumin_> darthanubis: I know, it's cool...trust me, if it'd been up to me, there'd be NVIDIA hardware in this box...it's a work machine
[01:32] <Alumin_> !info xrandr
[01:33] <darthanubis> Alumin_: if it had been Nvidia you probably would not have needed any help:)
[01:33] <afeijo> what do you guys use to mount a iso file?
[01:34] <darthanubis> afeijo: a right-click
[01:35] <Alumin_> darthanubis: nope, my previous box with a GeForce worked OOTB
[01:35] <afeijo> darthanubis: hehe, well mine isnt working, some problem with my Archieve Mounter, what is that prog name to me try reinstall thru apt-get ?
[01:35] <Alumin_> afeijo: mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/point
[01:35] <darthanubis> afeijo: have you installed ubuntu/kubuntu restricted packages?
[01:35] <Alumin_> darthanubis: the strange part is, it sees and can address both screens
[01:35] <afeijo> yes
[01:36] <Alumin_> like, if I set the "desktop rotation" on one of the screens, I can rotate them independently
[01:36] <darthanubis> because you should be able to just click the iso and it will mount automagically
[01:36] <Alumin_> and I can configure the refresh rates independently, although that's a bit of a non-issue since they're identical hehe
[01:36] <afeijo> Alumin_: sweet, that command worked :)
[01:37] <Alumin_> also...the graphical representation of the screens, I can see the text "DVI-0" _below" the "DVI-1"
[01:37] <Alumin_> afeijo: yeah, that's the "by hand" way...it's a lot nicer to use the auto-mounting features, but in a pinch that'll work
[01:37] <Alumin_> don't forget to umount it once you're done, HAL won't because it won't find it in its list since it didn't mount it
[01:38] <darthanubis> Alumin_: peruse the monitor applciation, in systemsettings
[01:38] <afeijo> unmounted
[01:38] <Alumin_> "monitor" is different from "display"?
[01:38] <Alumin_> thanks, I'll take another look
[01:38] <Guest66124> how to upgrade without formatting
[01:40] <afeijo> Guest66124: update-manager
[01:40] <amit_> its not working
[02:02] <panos4ever> hi everybody :P
[02:02] <afeijo> why apt-get install vbox 2.1.4 and not the last 3.0.2 ?
[02:02] <panos4ever> write
[02:02] <panos4ever> type
[02:02] <panos4ever> sudo apt-get ypdate
[02:03] <panos4ever> update*
[02:03] <panos4ever> then try again
[02:03] <afeijo> mine is updated, but I will try :)
[02:03] <panos4ever> u never know
[02:03] <Pici> !latest
[02:03] <panos4ever> try it
[02:03] <Pici> 3.0.x is not in the repos.
[02:03] <afeijo> when ff3.5 will be available?
[02:04] <Pici> now
[02:04] <Pici> !ff35
[02:04] <afeijo> oh :D
[02:04] <afeijo> I have to remove the version 3 ?
[02:04] <panos4ever> guys tell me a good computer movie
[02:04] <afeijo> panos4ever: matrix :p
[02:04] <panos4ever> lol
[02:05] <afeijo> panos4ever: that one with Angelina Jolie, not a good movie but she made it worthy
[02:05] <panos4ever> it was good
[02:05] <panos4ever> hackers
[02:05] <Pici> !ot
[02:05] <panos4ever> anyway
[02:05] <afeijo> sorry Pici
[02:07] <sheldon> Hi everyone. I just installed Kubuntu 9.04 64 bit. I was just wondering, are there any 64 bit web browsers for Kubuntu besides Konqueror? Is there a 32 bit compatability mode, like in (sorry) Windoze?
[02:07] <panos4ever> yes u can try opera
[02:07] <panos4ever> or firefox
[02:07] <sheldon> I tried firefox, but it wouldn't work. I'll check Opera
[02:09] <panos4ever> backtrack 4 is based on debian right?
[02:10] <panos4ever> the upcoming
[02:10] <sheldon> Also, when I try to use Kpackagekit to search for available software packages, nothing comes up for any of my searches.
[02:10] <sheldon> Is there a reason for this?
[02:10] <sheldon> I checked all my repositories already
[02:11] <panos4ever> check the sources
[02:11] <afeijo> shiretoko ??
[02:11] <panos4ever> we are so many here and only a few answer lol
[02:13] <afeijo> panos4ever: do you need a hug??  I'm working with some files I downloaded to make a big plain text dictionary.   How does kubuntu know it's a dictionry I'm working with, and why does it care?
[02:19] <hereAndThere> how do you know the model of the gfx card ?
[02:19] <Serpardum> in windows it's easy, debug, dump c000:0
[02:19] <hereAndThere> but i'm on ubuntu
[02:19] <hereAndThere> :s
[02:20] <Serpardum> yeah, not sure how to look at raw bios in kubuntu
[03:00] <Rhetorik> Wondering if someone can help me. I have a Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop, and I just installed the newest kubuntu. My problem is that I have no sound at all
[03:00] <DaskreeCH> !sound
[03:02] <Rhetorik> I see nothing called "sound system" under system settings
[03:02] <Rhetorik> I see nothing called "sound system" under system settings
[03:02] <Rhetorik> err :/
[03:03] <DaskreeCH> try Multimedia
[03:04] <Rhetorik> nope
[03:04] <DaskreeCH> Serpardum: try a hexeditor
[03:05] <DaskreeCH> Rhetorik: open Kmix and make sure that things are not muted
[03:05] <Rhetorik> Already did, mute is off on everything
[03:06] <Rhetorik> and everything is maxed
[03:07] <DaskreeCH> OK What sound card do you have ?
[03:09] <Rhetorik> It says Intel Corporation 82801H HD Audio Controller
[03:10] <Rhetorik> ICH8 family
[03:14] <Serpardum> DaskreeCH: I wasn't the one who needed that information, but thanks for the suggestion
[03:15] <DaskreeCH> Serpardum: Ah ok re reading convo
[03:15] <DaskreeCH> hereAndThere: try sudo lshw -C Video
[03:16] <Rhetorik> Apparently kubuntu has a problem with this specific audio device?
[03:16] <DaskreeCH> Rhetorik: Perhaps
[03:17] <Rhetorik> lame
[03:19] <DaskreeCH> indeed but lets attack the problem can you run speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -l1 -twav
[03:22] <Rhetorik> I did
[03:22] <Rhetorik> got a bunch of stuff
[03:24] <Rhetorik> all gibberish to me pretty much
[03:28] <Alumin_> is it possible to configure KPackageKit to use a local mirror instead of one of the predefined ones?
[03:38] <Rhetorik> The sound doesn't work properly with current Linux distributions. You will need to manually install the latest development ALSA modules (at least version 1.0.16rc2) for full sound support.
[03:38] <Rhetorik> from linlap.com
[03:39] <Rhetorik> Ok, how would I go about doing that
[03:39] <Rhetorik> Sorry if I sound like an idiot but this is kinda annoying
[04:03] <happy> can someone help me? I am using the latest version of kubuntu and can not figure out how to use my mp3 player.
[04:03] <happy> it has in the past always looked like a usb flash drive, but my computer does not see it
[04:13] <pushrax> !karmic
[04:27] <Arv3n> Hello.
[04:27] <Arv3n> I'm thinking about installing Windows again, can anyone describe to me the basic process of doing this?
[04:28] <aaron_> Arv3n: put a Windows disc in and restart your computer. There will be on screen prompts for you to follow
[04:28] <aaron_> if you're trying to dual-boot, though, the only way I know to do it is to install windows, then linux, since the windows install tends to get rid of any other operating systems
[04:29] <Arv3n> Exactly.
[04:29] <Arv3n> I am trying to dual boot.
[04:29] <Arv3n> im trying to stay as "legal" as possible in this Kubuntu install.
[04:29] <Serpardum> Arv3n: do you hav emore than one partion/disk?
[04:29] <Arv3n> only one partition.
[04:30] <Arv3n> well, two.. i went with the default "Erase everything"
[04:30] <Serpardum> well, then you can only install 1 os unless you go with a virtual machine
[04:30] <Serpardum> how big is your disk?
[04:30] <Arv3n> well i only need it for a game
[04:30] <Arv3n> 500gb
[04:30] <Serpardum> try wine
[04:30] <Arv3n> and this game works in virtualbox
[04:30] <Serpardum> wine runs some games well
[04:30] <Arv3n> wine doesn't work, im trying to run maplestory
[04:30] <Serpardum> ahh
[04:30] <Arv3n> it has hackshield now
[04:31] <Serpardum> won't hackshield work with virtualbox?
[04:31] <Arv3n> but.. it works in virtualbox until 5-6 minutes after running it gives me a hacking execution tool detected
[04:31] <Serpardum> hmm...
[04:31] <Arv3n> maplestory runs very fast in virtualbox
[04:31] <Arv3n> better than vmware, but the problem with vmware is i have to get workstation which is $100+ i think
[04:31] <Serpardum> have you tried the latest version of virtualbox
[04:31] <Arv3n> Yes.
[04:31] <Arv3n> 3.0.2
[04:31] <Serpardum> 3.0.2beta I believe
[04:31] <Arv3n> no i thought it was stable
[04:31] <Serpardum> is it now?
[04:31] <Arv3n> but that doesn't matter, yes that's what I'm running.
[04:32] <Arv3n> i just installed it today, whatever the latest is. :>
[04:32] <Serpardum> I don't know if I'd isntall windows for just 1 game.  I run a few windows games .
[04:32] <Arv3n> i dont want to
[04:32] <Serpardum> I run kubuntu in virutalbox
[04:32] <Arv3n> but im addicted to ms.. since beta
[04:33] <DaskreeCH> Rhetorik: Hi  Got help?
[04:33] <Serpardum> well, 50gb should be enough to install windows and maplestory, no?
[04:33] <Arv3n> 500gb.
[04:34] <DaskreeCH> Arv3n: As Legal as possible ?
[04:34] <Serpardum> yes, which is your total
[04:34] <Arv3n> you said 50gb >: |
[04:34] <Serpardum> I'm thinking you coudl make a smaller partition just to isntall windows to, 50gb
[04:34] <Arv3n> DaskreeCH, yeah.. i bought my codecs this time :)
[04:34] <Arv3n> $25.
[04:34] <Serpardum> I'm not sure how much windows and maplestory take up
[04:34] <Arv3n> no illegal software, music, videos, etc on this computer
[04:34] <Arv3n> Serpardum, I was running everything on a 20gb virtualbox partition
[04:34] <Arv3n> plenty of space left
[04:34] <Serpardum> okay, so make a 20gb partition for windows
[04:35] <DaskreeCH> Arv3n: congrats
[04:35] <Arv3n> but if im gonna install xp i might as well install ALL my games on it, rite.
[04:35] <Arv3n> uc wut i did thar
[04:35] <DaskreeCH> Rhetorik: Sorry for the delay. Ask for help in #alsa they have a pretty good knowldege of soudcard issues
[04:35] <HowardTheDuck> hey.   how would i make kubuntu able to go in fullscreen running it as a guest os in Virtualbox?
[04:35] <Arv3n> Unless somebody knows of a good rpg/mmorpg that runs in wine, crossover, or natively
[04:36] <Arv3n> just something to keep me busy.
[04:36] <Arv3n> really the only reason i play maplestory.
[04:36] <DaskreeCH> Arv3n: #gametome And happypenguin.org
[04:36] <DaskreeCH> There are quite a few
[04:36] <Arv3n> Thx.
[04:36] <HowardTheDuck> Host OS is Ubuntu 9.04
[04:36] <DaskreeCH> Stendethal and The mana world are two
[04:37] <DaskreeCH> HowardTheDuck: ComandKey+F
[04:39] <HowardTheDuck> yeah it's still a small box with a low rez
[04:40] <HowardTheDuck> looking for the option in KDE that will let me change resolution atm
[04:41] <HowardTheDuck> damn 800x600 max?  no wonder.  had this same problem in KDE running my slackware virtualbox
[04:42] <DaskreeCH> When I instaleld Windows that was the max res as well
[04:42] <DaskreeCH> ask in #vbox
[04:43] <HowardTheDuck> thanks
[04:57] <harolddong> is there a gui yet for linking activities with workspaces in kde 4.3?
[04:59] <harolddong> nevermind.found it
[05:00] <apparle> hello guys
[05:00] <MushroomKingdom> Hey
[05:01] <apparle> I am trying to install GNU Blow It http://sourceforge.net/projects/gbi/
[05:02] <apparle> when I run ./configure
[05:02] <apparle> I get this error:
[05:02] <apparle> checking for intltool >= 0.35.0... awk: cannot open ./intltool-update.in (No such file or directory) awk: cannot open ./intltool-update.in (No such file or directory)  found ./configure: line 7926: test: : integer expression expected configure: error: Your intltool is too old.  You need intltool 0.35.0 or later.
[05:02] <MushroomKingdom> Hm
[05:03] <MushroomKingdom> Mebbe check the repositories for the app you want, or check for your intltool and update it
[05:03] <avihay> !info intltool
[05:03] <MushroomKingdom> Yeah
[05:03] <avihay> ubottu knows best
[05:04] <apparle> and when I run sudo apt-get install intltool
[05:04] <apparle> ap@console:~/gbigui-0.1$ sudo apt-get install intltool Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done intltool is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 115 not upgraded. ap@console:~/gbigui-0.1$
[05:04] <avihay> so modest ubottu is
[05:04] <MushroomKingdom> Weird.
[05:04] <joey__> shut up avihay
[05:04] <DaskreeCH> hi MushroomKingdom
[05:04] <MushroomKingdom> Uh, usually theres a readme file that comes with source code, I'd check that. Never had to compile any code
[05:04] <MushroomKingdom> Hey!! Dask
[05:05] <MushroomKingdom> I got it fixed
[05:05] <DaskreeCH> \o/
[05:05] <DaskreeCH> joey__: Be nice
[05:05] <MushroomKingdom> it was an error with allowances. I moved my entire folder over to another folder, logged in and moved my main stuff back and reconfigured my desktop
[05:06] <joey__> ok that 's ok
[05:06] <stephen> achtung!
[05:06] <aaron_> apparle: have you run apt-get update lately?
[05:06] <apparle> yes
[05:06] <apparle> 2min ago
[05:06] <Guest64363> Umm how do i get a .bin file running on this?
[05:06] <aaron_> sorry, then :-)
[05:07] <Guest64363> Download a x64 java for my kubuntu
[05:07] <Guest64363> And im not sure how to apply it =P
[05:07] <MushroomKingdom> DaskreeCH : Something in my .kde folder screwed up
[05:07] <DaskreeCH> apparle: I  assume there is a file called intltool-update.in in the directory ?
[05:07] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: Yeah so it seems
[05:07] <Guest64363> gents?
[05:08] <DaskreeCH> Guest64363: It should have a readme that will tell you
[05:08] <Guest64363> Well its just a .bin file
[05:08] <Guest64363> its one thing only
[05:08] <avihay> try: intltoolize --version
[05:08] <apparle> DaskreeCH: in which directory
[05:08] <DaskreeCH> Guest64363: On the site you got it from
[05:08] <DaskreeCH> apparle: which ever directory you are in when you get that error
[05:09] <apparle> avihay: intltoolize (GNU intltool) 0.40.6
[05:10] <sheldon> Does anyone know how I can change my screen resolution from the console. After I shut down ioquake3, my screen resolution changed, and I can't change it back using the gui tool.
[05:10] <Guest64363> Seems like its telling me to do something 32-bitters would do
[05:10] <Guest64363> for my 64-bit issue
[05:10] <avihay> so the config script is wrong?
[05:10] <apparle> DaskreeCH: no there is not such file
[05:11] <Guest64363> um..
[05:11] <Guest64363> Anyone can answer this
[05:11] <Guest64363> x86_64 Kubuntu. Do i want to download the x64 Linux java or the x64 RPM?
[05:11] <DaskreeCH> sheldon: xrandr -r0 I thnk
[05:11] <DaskreeCH> apparle: That would be a problem eh? :)
[05:12] <aaron_> Guest64363: not the rpm. There are java packages you can install from kpackagekit that seem to work just fine
[05:12] <Guest64363> oh yeah repository..
[05:12] <DaskreeCH> aaron_: 64 bit?
[05:12] <Guest64363> I always forget
[05:12] <avihay> sheldon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=454517
[05:12] <DaskreeCH> !java
[05:12] <aaron_> DaskreeCH: I'm using it right now on 64biy
[05:12] <aaron_> bit*
[05:12]  * DaskreeCH flashes Thumbs up
[05:12] <Guest64363> In that case
[05:12] <Guest64363> Which one would i search for in the rep?
[05:12] <aaron_> it compiled the sesame2 backend, anyway, which is java based
[05:12] <apparle> DaskreeCH: what should I do now
[05:13] <DaskreeCH> apparle: Read the documentation of whatever you are installing
[05:13] <Guest64363> the repository has zilch-o results on anything java
[05:14] <Guest64363> Does it matter if i download stuff for Ubuntu when im on Kubuntu?
[05:14] <aaron_> Guest64363: I forget the name of the package itself. openjdk, maybe?
[05:14] <aaron_> maybe it had sun in the name...
[05:14] <DaskreeCH> Guest64363: See Ubott's statement above
[05:14] <DaskreeCH> Ubottu
[05:14] <Guest64363> reading thru
[05:15] <Guest64363> Kinda tlaks a lot of crap lol.
[05:15] <Guest64363> talks*
[05:15] <Guest64363> ahh.. it hink i got something
[05:16] <Guest64363> gonna wing it  X) Hopefully it doesnt blow up on me like playonlinux did
[05:17] <DaskreeCH> !info sun-java6-jre
[05:18] <sheldon> DaskreeCH and avihay: Thanks...that helped. It's back to normal now
[05:18] <avihay> there is also a taskbar utility like windows's quikres
[05:18] <apparle> DaskreeCH: there is no documentation available............
[05:19] <DaskreeCH> apparle: There is no README or INSTALL file in the directory ?
[05:19] <apparle> yes there is
[05:19] <Guest64363> Wish i wasnt so Linux-retarded. maybe then this would appear English to me XD
[05:19] <apparle> but didn't find anything that i understood
[05:20] <apparle> DaskreeCH: will you please check and tell me
[05:20] <DaskreeCH> pastebin them then
[05:21] <Guest64363> umm
[05:21] <Guest64363> since im on kubuntu
[05:21] <apparle> DaskreeCH: this is readme http://paste.ubuntu.com/221630/
[05:21] <Guest64363>  sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin  <--  thats the example on the guide im using
[05:22] <Guest64363> jre-6u14-linux-x64.bin  <-- this is my file for Java
[05:22] <Guest64363> do i just replace the sun-java5 bit with my file's name or..
[05:22] <apparle> DaskreeCH: this is install file http://paste.ubuntu.com/221631/
[05:23] <DaskreeCH> apparle: Bleah. thats the generic install instructions that comes with the make tool
[05:24] <DaskreeCH> ok so you go to the directory and type ./config and it complains ?
[05:24] <apparle> DaskreeCH: actually I type ./configure and it complains
[05:24] <DaskreeCH> Sorry yes configure :)
[05:25] <avihay> say, how can I tell if my intel gfx card driver is useing exa or uxa?  xorg looks like this: Section "Device"         Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
[05:25] <avihay> EndSection
[05:27] <DaskreeCH> add in one or the other
[05:30] <Guest64363> what was i doing...
[05:31] <DaskreeCH> installing Java
[05:31] <DaskreeCH> apparle: can You pastebin all the output?
[05:32] <apparle> yes
[05:33] <apparle> DaskreeCH: http://paste.ubuntu.com/221636/
[05:36] <DaskreeCH> apparle: pastebin lines 7000-8550 of the configure script
[05:40] <apparle> DaskreeCH: http://paste.ubuntu.com/221642/
[05:43] <DaskreeCH> apparle: Hmm can you tell me what locate intltool-update.in says?
[05:44] <Guest64363> I CANNAE DOOOOOO IT!!!
[05:44] <apparle> DaskreeCH: I don't understand
[05:45] <Guest64363> you're probably doing something crazy
[05:45] <Guest64363> I cant even pull off installing 64-bit java x_X
[05:46] <DaskreeCH> type locate intltool-update.in
[05:46] <DaskreeCH> Let me know what that says
[05:49] <apparle> DaskreeCH: I didn't understand what you said about loctation of intltool-update.in
[05:49] <Captain_Haddock> apparle: type  locate intltool-update.in in a Konsole
[05:50] <Captain_Haddock> and paste results in a pastebin
[05:50] <Captain_Haddock> !paste
[05:52] <Guest64363> umm
[05:52] <Guest64363> how do i accept the java licence agreement?
[05:52] <DaskreeCH> Tab
[05:52] <Guest64363> ahh danke
[05:52] <Guest64363> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[05:52] <Guest64363> i just went with the example command
[05:52] <Guest64363> seems to be working
[05:53] <Guest64363> hopefully updating wont be such a hassle lol
[05:53] <apparle> I get this /home/ap/g2ipmsg-0.9.6/intltool-update.in
[05:53] <Captain_Haddock> Guest64363: it's java6 now
[05:53] <Guest64363> >_>
[05:54] <Guest64363> mmkay..
[05:54] <Guest64363> when this finishes
[05:54] <Guest64363> how doth i update :D
[05:54] <FloodBotK1> Guest64363: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:54] <Captain_Haddock> Guest64363: type in one line... we don't necessarily want to see how your thought process works :)
[05:55] <Guest64363> I try to but hey
[05:55] <Guest64363> Old habits die hard.
[05:56] <apparle> DaskreeCH: what should I do
[05:56] <DaskreeCH> apparle: What's in that file?
[05:57] <digmore> have a question, IRC is working, but other browsers are not able to load webpages. Cannot ping either. Why?
[05:57] <apparle> DaskreeCH: Inside intltool-update.in?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/221648/
[06:01] <DaskreeCH> o_o
[06:01] <DaskreeCH> apparle: ok first thing open that and replace VERSION = with your version number
[06:03] <apparle> DaskreeCH: but that file is not present in the package which I want to install but another pacakge
[06:04] <DaskreeCH> which file?
[06:05] <Guest64363> omg
[06:05] <Guest64363> linuxxxxxxxxxx
[06:07] <apparle> DaskreeCH: intltool-update.in is not present in the source which I am compiling but is present in another software source which I already have installed
[06:08] <DaskreeCH> apparle: copy it to yours
[06:08] <apparle> DaskreeCH: ok
[06:09] <DaskreeCH> then try :)
[06:11] <apparle> DaskreeCH: what abt changing version and anything else in the file
[06:12] <DaskreeCH> apparle: try it without near as I can guess it should set itself but I can't figure out exactly where it does that. If not we can just set it
[06:18] <apparle> DaskreeCH: Now its generating error related to other intltool files.
[06:18] <apparle> DaskreeCH: I downloaded http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/intltool-Download-20784.html
[06:19] <apparle> DaskreeCH: should I use all the missing files from this package
[06:20] <DaskreeCH> apparle: If you can
[06:20] <apparle> DaskreeCH: I'll try
[06:28] <apparle> DaskreeCH: this is error of make http://paste.ubuntu.com/221661/
[06:32] <raimonda> lit
[06:32] <DaskreeCH> apparle: That's pretty serious
[06:33] <apparle> DaskreeCH: what to do??
[06:34] <DaskreeCH> apparle: at this point if you aren't a programmer I'd copy the pastebin errors from  the ./configure and the make and mail them to the project. They are still pretty young so they likely haven't got somethings sorted out
[06:35] <apparle> ok
[06:35] <DaskreeCH> You can fix them yourself but it's a lot easier if you are a programmer. IF you aren't this is a good way to give back to the project it helps them get better
[06:35] <DaskreeCH> ask for an update as soon as they have it fixed normally they will give you a new unreleased package with ixes
[06:35] <DaskreeCH> fixes
[06:39] <tsimpson> apparle: what's wrong with the intltool package in ubuntu?
[06:40] <apparle> tsimpson: I don't know
[06:41] <tsimpson> then there's no need to compile it, try the package
[06:41] <neptunepink> I've got a problem with blender. Portions of the 3D view do not draw correctly, and most of the icons are missing. Does anyone have any clue as to the general direction of fixing this? amd64, intel onboard vga, jaunty, no kwin effects.
[06:43] <xircx> sup all
[06:45] <apparle> tsimpson: I already have install the pacakge from repo
[06:46] <apparle> tsimpson: I think there is a fault with the package
[06:46] <DaskreeCH> tsimpson: Not compiling initltool
[06:47] <apparle> tsimpson: I mean there is a fault with gbigui packge which I am compiling
[06:47] <DaskreeCH> neptunepink: Intel drivers have been very bad for the Jaunty cycle. until about amonth and ahalf before release they were causing computers to not boot and other random madness
[06:47] <neda> hi, I want to have same keyboard shortcuts as gnome's in kde.  is there any solution?
[06:48] <DaskreeCH> neda: set your keyboard shortcuts in KDE to the same ones as Gnome
[06:48] <apparle> guys have there been any considerable development regarding ATI legacy cards
[06:48] <neda> DaskreeCH: how?
[06:48] <neda> DaskreeCH: you mean manually?
[06:49] <DaskreeCH> neda: Sure
[06:50] <neda> isn't there a better solution? it is a waste of time DaskreeCH
[06:50] <DaskreeCH> I'm not sure what kind of solution you are looking for
[06:51] <neda> I am looking for a checkbox to tick it.! :D
[06:52] <DaskreeCH> That would be an enormous dialog sheet
[06:52] <apparle> neda: goto system settings> keyborad and mouse> global keyboard shortcuts> import scheme and then see if you can find any of the schemes form drop down list
[06:55] <neda> thx apparle. very good advice... but there are all schemes ... windows, mac, etc. there is no gnome :(
[06:55] <apparle> search for gnome scheme on internet and download it and apply it
[06:57] <apparle> neda: but I don't think you will find it easily
[06:57] <apparle> bye guys
[07:08] <ganesh> hi
[07:30] <DaskreeCH> hi sebr
[07:57] <DaskreeCH> has anyone used Webshell?
[08:03] <yamishi> hi all
[08:03] <yamishi> i have a little problem
[08:04] <yamishi> a week ago i was able to watch videos
[08:04] <yamishi> but since my lil sister used my computer i can't watch any video
[08:04] <yamishi> i have tried the kaffeine player
[08:04] <yamishi> dragon player
[08:04] <yamishi> vlc
[08:05] <yamishi> and mplayer
[08:05] <yamishi> the only one that lets me see videos is the mplayer
[08:05] <yamishi> but from konsole
[08:05] <yamishi> i mean
[08:06] <yamishi> i need to type mplayer -vo x11 /path
[08:06] <yamishi> it won't work from the menu
[08:07] <yamishi> anyone?
[08:10] <DaskreeCH> yamishi: how little ?
[08:11] <yamishi> DaskreeCH:???
[08:11] <DaskreeCH> Your sister. How young is she?
[08:11] <yamishi> ah
[08:11] <DaskreeCH> infant teenager ?
[08:11] <yamishi> about 10 years old
[08:11] <DaskreeCH> Hmm
[08:12] <DaskreeCH> does she have her own account?
[08:12] <yamishi> eh no...
[08:12] <DaskreeCH> She probably should at that age :)
[08:12] <DaskreeCH> Would she mess around in the konsole ?
[08:12] <yamishi> no
[08:13] <DaskreeCH> ok open dragon et al from the command line
[08:13] <yamishi> she just knows how to use the windows live messenger
[08:13] <yamishi> ok
[08:17] <yamishi> umm
[08:17] <yamishi> see
[08:17] <yamishi> http://pastebin.com/d32e2bef3
[08:18] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: you there?
[08:19] <DaskreeCH> Play a file and see what it says
[08:20] <yamishi> that on the link
[08:21] <DaskreeCH> This is a file that used to work I guess?
[08:21] <yamishi> yes
[08:21] <yamishi> and it works with mplayer -vo x11 /path
[08:22] <yamishi> but not opening any player and then opening the file
[08:22] <yamishi> oh
[08:23] <yamishi> and also if i want to open the mplayer in the graphical menu it crashes
[08:23] <DaskreeCH> with what error?
[08:24] <yamishi> well it just closes the window
[08:25] <yamishi> it doesn't shows the "normal" crash windowd when an applications crashes
[08:25] <yamishi> and when opening a file
[08:25] <yamishi> it just plays the audio
[08:25] <yamishi> yamishi@atarashi-fantasy:~$ dragon "/home/yamishi/Música/Green Day - 21st Century Breakdown/Green Day - Know Your Enemy [2009][SkidVid]_XviD.avi"
[08:25] <yamishi> [mpeg4 @ 0x9474690]Invalid and inefficient vfw-avi packed B frames detected
[08:25] <yamishi> [mpeg4 @ 0x9474690]frame skip 8
[08:27] <yamishi> if you wanna see it by yourself just tell me and i'll let you connect to my computer with VNC
[08:29] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: any idea?
[08:30] <DaskreeCH> yamishi: reinstall your codecs I would guess
[08:30] <yamishi> umm
[08:30] <yamishi> ok
[08:30] <yamishi> but
[08:30] <yamishi> what codecs?
[08:30] <yamishi> i mean the name of the packages
[08:30] <DaskreeCH> sudo apt-get remove libxine1-ffmpeg --purge && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge && sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[08:38] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: the same
[08:40] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: heeeeeelp
[08:44] <DaskreeCH> yamishi: Sorry backagain
[08:45] <DaskreeCH> happens with all files?
[08:45] <yamishi> yeah
[08:45] <angelo_> ?
[08:45] <DaskreeCH> Can you grab a ogg video file and see if it happens
[08:45] <yamishi> umm i don't havy any in that format
[08:46] <yamishi> umm
[08:46] <yamishi> well
[08:46] <yamishi> do you have the KRDC installed?
[08:47] <angelo_> no
[08:47] <yamishi> or any VNC client?
[08:47] <mirash> how can I take internet in kubuntu?
[08:47] <mirash> i need pppoe
[08:48] <yamishi> mirash: search in the repositories
[08:48] <mirash> i hav just installed kubuntu9.04
[08:48] <mirash> how
[08:48] <yamishi> k-->System-->adept
[08:49] <yamishi> system is inside applications
[08:50] <DaskreeCH> !ppoe
[08:50] <DaskreeCH> !pppoe
[08:51] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: do you have the KRDC installed?
[08:52] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: or any VMC client
[08:52] <DaskreeCH> yamishi: Hold on
[08:52] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: oh ok jeje sorry
[08:53] <DaskreeCH> http://nya-doxa.se/elvis/gsoc-content-heights.ogv
[08:53] <DaskreeCH> try that file
[08:53] <yamishi> ok
[08:53] <yamishi> with dragon or mplayer?
[08:57] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: the same: black screen and the sound of the video
[08:58] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: the same
[08:59] <DaskreeCH> Hmm
[09:00] <DaskreeCH> grrr
[09:02] <DaskreeCH> yamishi: Same error of BFrames?
[09:03] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: yes
[09:03] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: but it world with mplayer -vo x11 /path
[09:03] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: look http://pastebin.com/d37854253
[09:10] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: any idea?
[09:17] <mirash1> i started pppoe in shell and when i type plog, it shows local and remote i p addresses. but i cant browse. browser cant load anything
[09:17] <mirash1> browser shows: Unknown Host
[09:17] <mirash1> in taskbar, it shows eth0 not connected
[09:21] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: you there
[09:21] <DaskreeCH> yamishi: It seems to be a knee jerk reaction from ffmpeg
[09:21] <yamishi> mirash1: i don't have any idea
[09:21] <DaskreeCH> mirash1: Maybe your hosts isn't correct?
[09:22] <DaskreeCH> what is your /etc/resolv.conf pointing to?
[09:22] <yamishi> DaskreeCH and what means that?
[09:24] <DaskreeCH> yamishi: means jin #ffmpeg and see if they have better knowledge than I :)
[09:26] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: thanks for all your help but i'll do it tomorrow it's already 3:25 and i nned to sleep a little since i need to wakeup at 5:30 to take a shower and go out
[09:26] <yamishi> jeje
[09:26] <yamishi> DaskreeCH: thanks
[09:26] <DaskreeCH> 03:26 here :)
[09:27] <yamishi> yeah XD
[09:27] <yamishi> but i haven't sleeped in about two or three days i need to sleep a little XD
[09:27] <yamishi> oh and sorry if my english is not the best
[09:28] <yamishi> jeje
[09:30] <DaskreeCH> It's fine :)
[09:30] <DaskreeCH> at least  you have a workaround for the issue
[09:31] <yamishi> yeah
[09:31] <yamishi> thanks
[09:31] <yamishi> you really helped
[09:33] <yamishi> DaskreeCH:see ya DaskreeCH
[09:35] <sgrover> any php coders out there? apt-get install phpunit installs version 3.2.16.  It has a bug where the bootstrap file is not loaded.  How do I get a more up to date version of phpunit?
[09:35] <sgrover> (on kubuntu Jaunty, of course)
[09:36] <DaskreeCH> sgrover: PPA ?
[09:36] <sgrover> ppa?  dunno what you mean by that.  Pear?  Not installed.. (apparently)
[09:36] <DaskreeCH> !ppa
[09:40] <sgrover> hmm... seems overly complex to achieve my target of creating unit tests...  But thanks for the link, I'll check it out.
[09:53] <DaskreeCH> sgrover: you don't need to do your own if someone else has a phpunit PPA you can just use their packages
[09:54] <sgrover> DaskreeCH: thanks.  Haven't seen one yet (but not sure if I'm searching Launchpad correctly).
[09:55] <DaskreeCH> sgrover: honestly I just search google the package I want and PPA
[09:55] <skierpage> Running Kubuntu 9.04, I inserted a DVD and can't examine it, though Dolphin shows its volume name.
[09:55] <sgrover> But, I did get 3.3.17 installed - by doing it the non-apt way... :)  (basically by following the instructions for installing PHPUnit, but that needed php-pear installed and updated.)
[09:56] <DaskreeCH> skierpage: What's on the DVD ?
[09:56] <DaskreeCH> sgrover: That works as well you just have to manage it yourself
[09:56] <skierpage> It's a movie.  So I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Ubuntu%209.04%20%28i386,%20amd64%29 and installed libdvdread4.  Still no player.
[09:56] <EricInBNE> running multimon setup, when I start eclipe it starts on the wrong monitor. Even when I have it set correctly in Application setttings in the Window Manager
[09:57] <sgrover> true, but was hoping to avoid that... oh well, nothing new for me really.. :)  Thanks for the moral support!
[09:57] <EricInBNE> anything I can do?
[09:57] <skierpage> Should I install VLC or Kaffeine?  VLC is at 1.0 but KPackageKit only has 0.99. ??!
[09:59] <skierpage> Progress... you have to quit and restart Dolphin to see the contents of a DVD after installing libdvdread4.
[10:00] <DaskreeCH> skierpage: Try VLC
[10:01] <DaskreeCH> skierpage: :-) of course you do
[10:02] <skierpage> DaskreeCH Thanks.  I see http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html wants me to add another PPA to get 1.0... Is there some reason the default KPackageKit has an out-of-date version of VLC?
[10:05] <DaskreeCH> !latest
[10:05] <sgrover> you'll never find the absolute latest in the default repositories - unless the absolute latest has been the ONLY version for more than a few months....
[10:05] <bigbrovar> .
[10:06] <bigbrovar> hi guys am new to kubuntu (being an ubuntu users) i cant seem to find a way to make bluetooth work :-(
[10:07] <bigbrovar> is it just me or is this a known bug
[10:09] <skierpage> DaskreeCH + sgrover, thanks for the explanation.  It's odd though; AmaroK or VLC proudly announce the *released* new version, but Kubuntu doesn't offer it.  Obviously I don't expect development versions from the normal repositories.
[10:09] <DaskreeCH> Kubuntu normally has the latest Amarok
[10:10] <sgrover> *released* versions take time to be considered "stable"
[10:10] <sgrover> Or more to the point, it takes time for someone to notice/create a package for it.. :)
[10:10] <skierpage> sgrover, good point.  But the problem with running an old version is if you find a problem the devs immediately ask you to try to reproduce on something more recent 8-/
[10:11] <sgrover> yep.  Cuz the bugs are usually already fixed.
[10:11] <bigbrovar> hi guys am new to kubuntu (being an ubuntu users) i cant seem to find a way to make bluetooth work :-(
[10:11] <sgrover> I just ran into that myself.  The version of a package installed by Jaunty is more than a few generations older than the current stable version.  So the bug I ran into was already addressed.
[10:12] <sgrover> SOOOOOO, I had to find a way to upgrade the version.  But this usually breaks some things - like that package is no longer auto-updated by Apt...
[10:13] <sgrover> If you need the cutting edge stuff, then you should be looking at a source based distribution, but that's not as "friendly" to the general public.
[10:17] <bigbrovar> i guys i just want to know if bluetooth works on jaunty kubuntu .. so i know its not just my system .. am about to install blueman on my kubuntu with i really wouldnt want to do unless my bluetooth problem is a known issue
[10:17] <skierpage> bigbrovar , I don't have Bluetooth on my PC but I notice my pretty default Kubuntu 9.04 install has kdebluetooth and bluez packages installed according to KPackageKit.  Do you have those installed?
[10:18] <bigbrovar> skierpage: i have those installed ..
[10:18] <bigbrovar> skierpage: i guess i will have to install gnome blueman then
[10:21] <DaskreeCH> hi bigbrovar you posted on the Kubuntu forums didn't you?
[10:23] <skierpage> bigbrovar, running kbluetooth4-devicemanager and/or kbluetooth4-inputwizard doesn't  help you out?
[10:24] <bigbrovar> skierpage: hope .. reading about it now it seems bluez upgrade in jaunty completely broke the bluetooth stack for kubuntu
[10:24] <bigbrovar> skierpage: the only solution is install a gnome bluetooth app :-(
[10:30] <bigbrovar> skierpage: everytime i try to send a file to my device via bluetooth using the kubuntu bluetooth tool i get this org.openobex.Error.NotFound
[10:33] <skierpage> DascreeCH, vlc 1.0.0-1 wants to install 40 other packages, only two of which I already have installed!  Hmmm
[11:00] <metellius> are there any debug packages available for the experimental rc2 packages?
[11:59] <dd0012> what dose it òean this word °bug°
[12:00] <dd0012> what dose it òean this word °bug°
[12:01] <dd0012> what dose it òean this word °bug°
[12:01] <podstavsky> what does it mean?
[12:02] <dd0012> ya
[12:02] <Mamarok> dd0012: it's an error in the program
[12:03] <Mamarok> metellius: the debug packages are marked -dbg, those should all be available
[12:05] <dd0012>  i can fix ithow
[12:05] <bernardlychan> does anyone know how to change the kde splash screen?
[12:06] <bernardlychan> i have a theme but don't know how to apply
[12:06] <Mamarok> dd0012: if you are a coder you can look at the source code, else you will have to wait till a developer fixes it
[12:06] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: in the system settings, advanced tab
[12:06] <bernardlychan> thanks mamarok
[12:07] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: yaw :)
[12:07] <bernardlychan> then what do i do? (soz, am n00b)
[12:07] <bernardlychan> desktop theme details?
[12:07] <Mamarok> no, you have to go to the advanced tab of the system settings first
[12:08] <Mamarok> then choose the option 'Login Manager'
[12:08] <bernardlychan> ?
[12:08] <bernardlychan> i don't see it...
[12:08] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: which Kubuntu are you using?
[12:08] <bernardlychan> the latest
[12:08] <Mamarok> 9.04 then?
[12:09] <bernardlychan> o actually... i have ubuntu with kde
[12:09] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: you must have admin rights to change the kde splash
[12:09] <bernardlychan> how do i do this (thanks for this btw)
[12:09] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: be aware that this can break things, so be careful
[12:09] <Mamarok> where did you get that theme from?
[12:10] <bernardlychan> kde-look.org
[12:10] <bernardlychan> so how do i change permissions mamarok?
[12:10] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: which theme is it? You should only install it from the system settings normally
[12:11] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: go to a konsole, then type 'kdesudo systemsettings', without the '
[12:11] <bernardlychan> the circuit Bluz theme. only for desktop
[12:11] <podstavsky> Mamarok: I'm watching your helping tips and must say congratulatios for the knowledge :)
[12:11] <bernardlychan> i mean, only for login
[12:11] <bernardlychan> k, thanks mamrok
[12:11] <Mamarok> podstavsky: thx :)
[12:13] <Mamarok> podstavsky: I was a beginner once, too, though :)
[12:13] <bernardlychan> hey mamarok
[12:13] <bernardlychan> i'm getting this
[12:13] <bernardlychan> Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." "
[12:13] <FloodBotK2> bernardlychan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:13] <bernardlychan> o it's ok now... dw
[12:13] <bernardlychan> thanks mamarok
[12:14] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: well, you might have to update your kde version, there is a newer one with bugfixes, see the topic, 4.2.4
[12:14] <bernardlychan> ok
[12:14] <bernardlychan> thanks
[12:15] <bernardlychan> mamarok: where do i go now?
[12:15] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: where are you?
[12:15] <bernardlychan> in login manager
[12:15] <Mamarok> well, see the buttons at the bottom?
[12:16] <bernardlychan> yea
[12:16] <Mamarok> install new theme
[12:16] <bernardlychan> i tried to install a .rc file
[12:16] <bernardlychan> doesn't work?
[12:16] <podstavsky> Mamarok: everyone was a beginner :) but not everyone can transfer the knowledge :) I'm admiring also people helping other people in sometimes very very simple problems
[12:17] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: it's easier to install from the login manager settings, with the button "Get new themes"
[12:17] <bernardlychan> yea
[12:17] <bernardlychan> then i've browsed and selected my theme
[12:17] <Mamarok> podstavsky: I was a teacher at some point in my life :)
[12:17] <bernardlychan> and it says that it is not valid
[12:18] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: well, not all themes work, let me see...
[12:18] <podstavsky> Mamarok: "my nose" is not bad as I thought :D
[12:21] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: that is not a splash screen, but a KDM theme
[12:21] <Mamarok> you were talking about a splash theme
[12:21] <bernardlychan> yea, how do i install a splash screen?
[12:21] <Mamarok> that is not a splash theme, read what I said, it is a KDM theme
[12:22] <bernardlychan> i know. but i would like to install a splash theme, not a KDM theme.
[12:22] <Mamarok> ok, moment
[12:22] <bernardlychan> thanks
[12:26] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: the same way I just told you, but not all proposed splash screens do work
[12:26] <bernardlychan> what do u mean?
[12:28] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: well, applications, screens, etc on kde-apps.org and kde-look.org are third party, so sometimes things don't work and you will have to talk to the developer there
[12:28] <bernardlychan> ok
[12:28] <bernardlychan> thanks so much
[12:28] <bernardlychan> one last question....
[12:28] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: the splash screen is in the first tab of the system settings, you do not need sudo rights for that
[12:28] <bernardlychan> how do i install a .desktop theme?
[12:28] <Mamarok> in 'Apperance'
[12:28] <bernardlychan> thanks
[12:29] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: go to the desktop, right click and choose desktop settings
[12:29] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: appearance was for the splash screen
[12:29] <bernardlychan> o ok
[12:49] <dd0012> is bug workink like virus
[12:49] <was> Wenas
[12:49] <dd0012> is bug working like virus
[12:49] <was> Alguien de España ?
[12:50] <Shura> !plasma
[12:52] <dd0012> whats the defferent between bug and virus
[12:55] <podstavsky> bug is an error
[12:55] <dd0012> fine but how I can fixe that error
[12:56] <podstavsky> in the source code - if there is a bug you must fix it
[12:56] <dd0012> i have many massage show that word
[12:57] <podstavsky> yes - because when there is a bug in small program - the other parts will malfunction
[12:58] <dd0012> can you tell me how i can fix it frome the source code
[12:58] <was> ESPAÑOL
[12:58] <podstavsky> dd0012 - may I have a look at this source code?
[12:59] <podstavsky> and what's the language
[13:00] <dd0012> its goon now, but whne i need to install a new package that message show up
[13:00] <podstavsky> can you paste this message?
[13:00] <podstavsky> here @ IRC
[13:03] <podstavsky> be right back
[13:04] <jussi01> !paste | podstavsky
[13:05] <podstavsky> I understood
[13:05] <dd0012> A Fatal Error Occurred
[13:05] <dd0012> The application KWin (kwin) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
[13:05] <dd0012> Please help us improve the software you use by filing a report at http://bugs.kde.org. Useful details include how to reproduce the error, documents that were loaded, etc.
[13:05] <FloodBotK2> dd0012: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <podstavsky> dd0012 - you won't fix this bug on your own
[13:06] <dd0012> yas
[13:07] <podstavsky> it's in KWin - segmentation fault
[13:07] <dd0012> whats the solutions
[13:09] <dd0012> whats the solutions
[13:09] <dd0012> whats the solutions
[13:10] <podstavsky> you need to send a report to kde developers they can solve this problem
[13:10] <podstavsky> for now you just can wait for final release
[13:10] <podstavsky> I've got sometimes the same message :D
[13:14] <dd0012> I have a new probleme, the toolpar of main windows explorer its goon (close,size....
[13:15] <dd0012> there any tools to restorie the system
[13:31] <ridzaq> KDE POS
[13:52] <BluesKaj> Hello folks
[13:54] <panos4ever> hi
[13:57] <Mamarok> hi BluesKaj :)
[13:59] <BluesKaj> hi Mamarok , what's up ?  :)
[14:04] <metellius> other than /etc/resolv.conf and ifconfig, what other basic building blocks are there in (k)ubuntu lowlevel networking? I'm getting "host not found" errors for all net queries, but restarting works for some magic reason, even though when both resolv.conf and ifconfig have the exact same output! what am I missing?
[14:05] <aaron_> metellius: netstat
[14:05] <aaron_> at the bottom of the ipconfig man page there's a list of other commands to check out that are related
[14:07] <metellius> ok, Ill look at them
[14:07] <metellius> but netstat? isnt that only for current connections?
[14:07] <rferrada> hello?
[14:08] <aaron_> metellius: I don't actually know too much about low level networking, just that the related commands are usually a good starting point
[14:08] <aaron_> sorry
[14:08] <metellius> ok, thank you
[14:08] <metellius> it was a big help either way
[14:08] <aaron_> welcome
[14:09] <rferrada> sorry i am new in this chat...im having problme i just install a server with a new ip  but the dns server still is checkin g for the old IP. someboy now about this problem?
[14:11] <rferrada> somebody there :(
[14:11] <kaddi> heya :)
[14:12] <kaddi> I am looking for a tool that will eliminate duplicate files. I have a folder with pictures in subfolders and many are double and would like to delete pictures which are present in more then one folder
[14:13] <rferrada> somebody know about DNS?
[14:14] <kaddi> not much
[14:14] <rferrada> hehe apparently we are just you and me
[14:14] <kaddi> looks like it :p
[14:16] <Mamarok> no, you are not alone, but the only two with that subject :)
[14:16] <Mamarok> the others are just watching :)
[14:16] <desu> rferrada: you want help setting up a DNS?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> rferrada, it's a bit unusual to have dns / server questions here
[14:17] <rferrada> thanks..! no i just reinstall a server with ubuntu with a new Ip but the dns server still ask me about the old IP address
[14:17] <rferrada> and i doont know if i need to do someconfiguration in my server or in the dns server
[14:18] <Mamarok> rferrada: looks much more like a question for #ubuntu-server
[14:18] <rferrada> sorry so, i cant do this kind of question here..i am new (sorry)
[14:18] <rferrada> yes, is ubuntu server
[14:18] <rferrada> ths area is for kubuntu clients only?
[14:18] <Mamarok> rferrada: well, you can, but the question might no be answered
[14:19] <Mamarok> there are more server specialists in #ubuntu-server
[14:19] <rferrada> :S how i can go there...i will try
[14:19] <Mamarok> rferrada: well, this is the support channel fro Kubuntu
[14:19] <Mamarok> rferrada: just type /join #ubuntu-server
[14:20] <rferrada> i have kubuntu but server...thanks a lot again
[14:21] <rferrada> #ubuntu-server
[14:21] <rferrada> hahaha
[14:21] <BluesKaj> click on it
[14:22] <BluesKaj> rferrada, click on this #ubuntu-server
[14:23] <BluesKaj> finally ;0
[14:23] <rferrada> thanks!! great!!!
[14:23] <acidburn> kann mir wer helfen unter Kubuntu ? bin noob und wollt was installieren der mekkert bloss haette keine rechte ... wo kann ich mir rechte setzen ?
[14:24] <panos4ever> acidburn
[14:24] <kaddi> !de
[14:25] <panos4ever> acidburn u use the name of angelina jolie in the movie "hackers" :P
[14:39] <jerome> salut all
[14:51] <hippo> Howdy!
[14:52] <hippo> Friendly bunch here! :-(
[14:52] <_abbenormal> yes they are
[14:53] <hippo> I can tell. One says hello, and everybody is just head over heals to reply.
[14:54] <_abbenormal> some are not even up and around yet
[14:54] <hippo> But they are logged in and have joined the channel.
[14:55] <_abbenormal> yes but like me im working on a issue and if someone has an answer they will just say something and i will get it
[14:55] <_abbenormal> me sometimes im loged in and just not at the keyboard
[14:56] <hippo> I'm trying to find a solution to a seemingly simple issue, too. FoIP... seems to be no software out there.
[14:56] <hippo> At least not for Linux.
[14:57] <_abbenormal> http://www.softlinx.com/products/replixfax_linux.html
[14:57] <hippo> I don't join a channel and then leave the keyboard unattended, unless I have to go to the restroom, or grab a bite or drink.
[14:58] <hippo> Thanks. I'll check it out.
[14:58] <_abbenormal> http://www.google.com/search?q=FoIP+linux&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[14:58] <_abbenormal> im in a lot of channels so im here a lot but its better to be loged in and look back to find answers
[14:59] <hippo> Sounds reasonable. I ususally try to stick to one channel, since I'm working on other things as well. :-)
[15:00] <_abbenormal> yup it can be hard at times but any that im in i use those or help in them as i can
[15:01] <Mamarok> hippo: don't expect tons of answers on a Sunday anyway
[15:01] <hippo> I'm actually looking for a softphone, that can handle VoIP and FoIP via SIP, but address a regular fax (T.38)
[15:02] <Mamarok> hippo: well, doesn't that link help?
[15:02] <hippo> Thanks for the heads-up.
[15:02] <_abbenormal> hey Mamarok
[15:02] <Mamarok> hi _abbenormal
[15:02] <hippo> A little. I'm working through the links.
[15:02] <hippo> Hello Mamarok!
[15:04] <Mamarok> hippo: also, saying hi to everyone who comes in a channel with hundreds of users and some onther hundreds coming in ang going on a daily basis is not a good idea, especially not in a support channel, it creates unnecessary noise
[15:04] <Mamarok> hi hippo
[15:04] <Mamarok> it's different in a social channel, but this is for support only
[15:07] <hippo> That would explain it. I rarely hit support channels. Only when I can't find what I need, after more than an hour of searching.
[15:07] <_abbenormal> lol an hour
[15:07] <hippo> And usually I find what I'm looking for.
[15:07] <_abbenormal> sorry
[15:07] <_abbenormal> i have hours and days of searching for some of my issues
[15:08] <hippo> I found articles, but still can't find the softphone for VoIP and Foip through sip-providers.
[15:08] <Mamarok> I don't look for hours, but my search ability has improved over the years, usually I find stuff within minutes
[15:09] <hippo> Same here. That's why I'm so frustrated, that I can't find it. :-(
[15:09] <_abbenormal> im not that lucky
[15:09] <Mamarok> hippo: have a look at www.voip.info.org
[15:09] <hippo> USusally I find answers within 10 - 15 Minutes. In some extreme cases it may take a little longer, but never more than an hour.
[15:10] <Mamarok> third search result for "Fax over IP Linux"
[15:13] <hippo> voip.info.org seems to redirekt to http://www.searchreinvented.com/?dn=info.org&pid=5POCKN6CN
[15:13] <Mamarok> oops, voip-info.org, my bad
[15:13] <ioan> http://www.xs4all.nl/~mfnboer/twinkle/index.html
[15:13] <ioan> take a look at that
[15:14] <hippo> http://www.voip-info.org/ - got it :-)  Thanks
[15:14] <hippo> Twinkle is capable of VoIP, but no option to fax. :-(
[15:15] <ioan> aah -i see -i'll do another search hippo
[15:16] <Mamarok> hippo: especially CallWeaver, it's an Asterisk fork
[15:16] <Mamarok> uses T38 fax
[15:17] <noschang> i from brazil
[15:17] <noschang> and you ?
[15:17] <Mamarok> noschang: do you have a support question?
[15:17] <noschang> yes
[15:18] <noschang> Theme Desktop Gnome
[15:18] <hippo> Hi ioan - thanks. I'll give it a try.
[15:18] <hippo> Hi noschang.
[15:18] <alex_> hello
[15:19] <alex_> i want to ask someone over here for some help!
[15:19] <hippo> Hi alex
[15:19] <alex_> i want to transform one partition of my pc
[15:19] <noschang>
[15:19] <noschang> I do not speak English very well
[15:19] <Mamarok> noschang: if you are using Gnome, you should ask in #ubuntu, this is a KDE support channel
[15:19] <Mamarok> !br | noschang
[15:20] <alex_> it is in ext3 extension
[15:20] <Mamarok> alex_: what do you want to do exactly?
[15:20] <alex_> and i want to be ntfs or fat32
[15:20] <noschang>
[15:20] <noschang> I ask sorry in ubuntu, thanks
[15:20] <Mamarok> noschang: no problem
[15:20] <alex_> i have an kiwi with upgrade to ubuntu 9.04
[15:21] <Mamarok> alex_: why do you want to put a Linux partition to ntfs?
[15:21] <alex_> i want to make a partition in ntfs or fat32 format
[15:21] <alex_> nope
[15:21] <alex_> not for linux
[15:21] <alex_> for other operating sistem
[15:21] <alex_> i need another os on my pc
[15:22] <alex_> and my optic unity has crash down
[15:22] <alex_> :P
[15:22] <Mamarok> alex_: you can use parted to change the formating of a partition, but it should not be mounted
[15:22] <noschang> brasileiro ?
[15:22] <Mamarok> !parted
[15:22] <alex_> ups it is mounted
[15:22] <Mamarok> !qparted
[15:23] <Mamarok> hm, where's that factoid
[15:23] <alex_> and the disk management didn't let me to do this
[15:23] <alex_> i'm not the root
[15:23] <Dragnslcr> !info partitionmanager
[15:23] <alex_> and on my pc didn't exist the root
[15:23] <JuhazOne> yo. i'm using kde3... for some reason, kde seems to use the random screen saver if i set it to use the blank one
[15:23] <Mamarok> alex_: you will have to unmount that partition first, then you can reformat it
[15:24] <JuhazOne> i think i've had this problem before, but i can't remember how i fixed it back then
[15:24] <Mamarok> sudo umount /partitionname will do the trick
[15:24] <JuhazOne> any ideas?
[15:24] <alex_> tell me the codes for terminal pls
[15:24] <hippo> Alex, try GParted. It's available through the packetadministration
[15:24] <alex_> ok
[15:24] <Mamarok> alex_: make sure you don't use it though, else this will not work
[15:24] <alex_> man, it is monted
[15:24] <alex_> with /home
[15:24] <Mamarok> hippo: partitionmanager is the KDE forntend
[15:24] <Mamarok> frontend even
[15:25] <hippo> Ah! Learned something new. Thanks!
[15:25] <Mamarok> alex_: well, then you can't do that, if you remove your /home your computer will not work anymore
[15:25] <Mamarok> alex_: and you need it for Linux
[15:25] <alex_> so lets do else
[15:25] <Mamarok> unless you want to remove Linux completly, then you can just install Windows, it will remove it
[15:25] <alex_> the home is big
[15:25] <alex_> 110 Gb
[15:26] <alex_> ok
[15:26] <alex_> but how i do  this
[15:26] <hippo> I'm going to do some more research. Thanks for the help! Have a nice day/evening.
[15:26] <alex_> cause i dond tahe optical unit:P
[15:26] <ioan> efax-gtk hippo -for faxing
[15:26] <alex_> no dvd or cd working unit
[15:27] <alex_> the linux have some fdisk on it
[15:27] <alex_> to "self destruct " the linux
[15:27] <Mamarok> alex_: well, there is still the possibility to install a VM for Windows
[15:27] <alex_> yes man i understand
[15:28] <alex_> but u know to share the folders between the windows on Vm and the linux, it's very hard
[15:28] <ioan> i try virtual box
[15:29] <ioan> and i have windows inside linux
[15:29] <Mamarok> alex_: sharing folders between Windows and Linux computers is done with Samba, in a VM you do this differently
[15:29] <Mamarok> !vm
[15:29] <Mamarok> try Virtualbox
[15:29] <doorsman> Hi ! I'd like to know how to install updates that are blocked (mostly kernel updates)
[15:29] <alex_> i have already virtual box
[15:30] <Mamarok> doorsman: if they are blocked you can either wait to get the dependency resolved, or do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in a konsole
[15:30] <alex_> so another think
[15:30] <doorsman> what is dist-update do ?
[15:31] <alex_> how i do a bootable ubuntu usb
[15:31] <alex_> cauze i reinstall ubuntu and repartiton the harddisk
[15:31] <alex_> can u help me with thi?
[15:31] <alex_> this?
[15:32] <Mamarok> alex_: if <ou have a regular Kubuntu CD it should be bootable
[15:32] <alex_> yep man
[15:33] <alex_> but i have an working optical unit
[15:33] <Mamarok> alex_: without a CD drive though you can use an USB stick, if your BOIS allows <you to boot from
[15:33] <alex_> no f....king cdor dvd wr
[15:33] <alex_> yes it alow
[15:33] <doorsman> Mamarok, alex_ question was how to do one on Kubuntu
[15:33] <alex_> yep
[15:33] <alex_> this is the question
[15:34] <alex_> how to do one
[15:34] <Mamarok> !usb
[15:34] <Mamarok> alex_: see above ^^
[15:34] <alex_> ok, thnx man
[15:35] <Mamarok> yaw, alex_ :)
[15:35] <Mamarok> doorsman: I understood that, just give me time to type :)
[15:36] <ioan> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-kubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/
[15:36] <ioan> i found also this link
[15:36] <Dragnslcr> doorsman- from Konsole, "sudo apt-get dist-ugrade"
[15:38] <alex_> thanx
[15:39] <alex_> now i've seen that my linux has the option to create a usb linux
[15:39] <alex_> another think .... a bootable image
[15:39] <alex_> a link please
[15:39] <alex_> a good one
[15:39] <alex_> :)
[15:39] <alex_> i know.... i'm like a pi in the ass
[15:40] <Mamarok> alex_: see the link I gave you above, there is everything you need
[15:51] <johnnymac> hello, does anyone know how I can see the 'nice' level of all processes running
[15:52] <Mamarok> johnnymac: use htop
[15:52] <Dragnslcr> System Monitor's process list can show it
[15:52] <tuanpham> hi guy
[15:52] <tuanpham> i am new comeer
[15:52] <tuanpham> some one here ?
[15:52] <Mamarok> or ksysguard
[15:53] <Dragnslcr> The column is hidden by default
[15:53] <tuanpham> can you show me, how to update to kde 4.3 RC2 ?
[15:53] <tuanpham> i tried to run sudo apt-get install update
[15:53] <tuanpham> but have nothing to updte
[15:53] <tuanpham> guy?
[15:54] <tuanpham> can some one help ?
[15:54] <Mamarok> tuanpham: this is in a special archive, are you comfortable with experimental installation?
[15:54] <Mamarok> tuanpham: patience, give us time to type an answer :)
[15:54] <johnnymac> can 'top' or ps show nice levels?
[15:54] <tuanpham> thank Mamarok
[15:54] <Mamarok> johnnymac: well, it can, but ksysguard is easier to use, it's gui application
[15:55] <Mamarok> johnnymac: also, htop is much better than top
[15:55] <johnnymac> I want to use the terminal though
[15:55] <Mamarok> then install htop
[15:55] <johnnymac> and a default terminal app
[15:56] <Mamarok> tuanpham: if you are a beginner, you shouldn't sue the PPA installation
[15:56] <Mamarok> use*
[15:56] <tuanpham> i tried find on internet
[15:56] <tuanpham> do you mean change to soure to PPA Mamarok
[15:56] <Mamarok> tuanpham: if you are an experienced user, you can follow the link given in the channel topic
[15:56] <darthanubis> anyone here use kmldonkey?
[15:57] <tuanpham> thank Mamarok
[15:57] <Mamarok> tuanpham: you are welcome
[15:57] <darthanubis> Anyone with an Asus mobo and use the default temp sensors plasmoids?
[15:58] <darthanubis> Does the temps read correct at Celcius but show a "F" next to the number instead of the "C"
[16:07] <tuanpham> it done i change to soure and get the keys then, so i will run auto update for the new version ?
[16:09] <Mamarok> tuanpham: well, if you don't know that you should not do it maybe
[16:09] <BluesKaj> darthanubis, what's the number ?
[16:09] <darthanubis> lol
[16:10] <BluesKaj> if it's above 70 then it's prolly F
[16:10] <darthanubis> BluesKaj: definiately celcius, 21.5-37
[16:10] <tuanpham> uanpham@ubuntu:~/Documents$ sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A
[16:10] <tuanpham> Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A
[16:10] <tuanpham> gpg: requesting key 8AC93F7A from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[16:10] <tuanpham> gpg: key 8AC93F7A: public key "Launchpad Kubuntu Updates" imported
[16:10] <tuanpham> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[16:10] <FloodBotK2> tuanpham: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:10] <darthanubis> lol
[16:10] <BluesKaj> ok, then why worry , darthanubis
[16:11] <darthanubis> got to love this channel
[16:11] <darthanubis> because I like thinks to work PROPERLY
[16:11] <darthanubis> and there has to be an easy way to edit plasmoids, no?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> there should be an options dialog for the plasmoid
[16:12] <BluesKaj> or configure
[16:13] <Mamarok> tuanpham: please do not past things in the channel, use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:13] <tuanpham> sorry konqueror can not copy :(
[16:14] <soon> Hi folks - anyone here from the British Isles? Who recorded episode 5 of Psychoville???
[16:15] <Mamarok> soon: this is a support channel, please, chat is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:15] <soon> right you are...
[16:16] <darthanubis> BluesKaj: yeah, and the options are toy options, can't change anything under the skin
[16:16] <darthanubis> I need to edit the code, or file a bug or something
[16:16] <darthanubis> I just wanted to know if I was the only one experiencing this anomoly?
[16:17] <darthanubis> soon: just check bittorent
[16:17] <soon> good idea
[16:17] <soon> thx
[16:20] <daeron> hi everyon
[16:20] <daeron> i've got a problem
[16:20] <daeron> i had to reinstall kubuntu yesterday
[16:20] <daeron> but now
[16:20] <daeron> when i'm trying to enable the hardware drivers' support for nvidia gpu
[16:21] <daeron> by the tool 'drivers hardware'
[16:21] <daeron> i can't enable the video compositing
[16:21] <daeron> i don't why
[16:21] <daeron> coz it recognize the right right
[16:21] <daeron> like before
[16:21] <daeron> but when i try to install it, it doen't happen anything
[16:22] <daeron> is there someone who can help me?
[16:24] <ioan> did you installed nvidia x server settings -i suppose you ca do it from there
[16:24] <BluesKaj> daeron, video composting ? What exactly are you trying to do ?
[16:24] <daeron> nothing special, i'm trying to enable kwin or compiz, for now
[16:25] <ioan> there's a gui for nvidia video settings
[16:25] <daeron> the problem is that the tool driver hardware recognize the right driver of my nvidia card but when i press the button to active it, doesn't happen anything
[16:25] <daeron> or bettere
[16:26] <daeron> *better
[16:26] <daeron> the name of the driver in the list of supported driver became gray
[16:27] <BluesKaj> daeron, what nvidia card and which driver ?
[16:27] <daeron> nvidia gtkx280 and nvidia driver release 180
[16:28] <daeron> a friend of mine told me to try envy instead of the close drivers
[16:29] <BluesKaj> !envy
[16:29] <daeron> why at my own risk?
[16:29] <daeron> is it unstable?
[16:30] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:31] <Mamarok> daeron: and not supported
[16:31] <kaddi> uh someone walked me through compiling from source. I did a .configure && make && sudo make install. Everything is working great, but I am wondering if I still need the folders in which I did the make or if "sudo make install" copied all necessary items to /usr/lib?
[16:31] <daeron> ok
[16:31] <BluesKaj> daeron, sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-180  .let's make sure the driver is installed
[16:31] <daeron> i've tried that to
[16:31] <BluesKaj> and ?
[16:32] <daeron> and after i make 'sudo nvidia-xconfig ' and all his option
[16:32] <daeron> and nothing happened
[16:33] <BluesKaj> no need to sudo nvidia-xconfig , just installand reboot
[16:33] <daeron> i'm going to try this way another time
[16:33] <Dragnslcr> kaddi- you can usually remove the source directory, but unless you need the disk space, I wouldn't bother
[16:33] <daeron> ah ok
[16:33] <darthanubis> and stay away from envy
[16:33] <daeron> and now that i'm here
[16:33] <daeron> what about kde 4.3rc2?
[16:33] <ioan> nvidia drivers should be installed after closing the x server using the sh command -
[16:33] <darthanubis> the default hardware device installer works perfectly, you just have to wait and be patient
[16:34] <daeron> how long do i have to wait?
[16:34] <darthanubis> daeron: until it is finished
[16:34] <daeron> mmm
[16:34] <darthanubis> it will tell you you need to reboot when it has done it's thing
[16:34] <daeron> ok
[16:35] <daeron> ok
[16:35] <kaddi> Dragnslcr: the source folder still lies in my temporary download folder which is regularly emptied.. just wanted to know if this would break everything and if I had to take extra precautions :)
[16:35] <daeron> i try the tool another time and now i'll wait as long as i can
[16:35] <darthanubis> daeron: I'm using RC2 as well
[16:35] <daeron> let's see
[16:35] <ioan> http://www.linuxforums.org/articles/installing-nvidia-3d-drivers_50.html
[16:36] <darthanubis> nvidia installation should NOT still be an issue?
[16:36] <darthanubis> I don't get it?
[16:36] <darthanubis> If it does not work, it is 9/10 human error
[16:37] <daeron> the fact is that i remember when i did it when i've installed for the first time kubuntu jaunty, and that time it worked well and fast
[16:37] <Mamarok> kaddi: depends what you are compiling, if it is a SVN version, you should update often, so keep the sources
[16:37] <darthanubis> because it works
[16:38] <darthanubis> I have 4 systems running debian based distros
[16:38] <daeron> yes i know, but that time i could see a windows with an increasing bar of the working process
[16:38] <daeron> and now (still now) i can't see anything of that
[16:38] <kaddi> Mamarok it was mono 2.4, I'll go back to the "usual" repository version once I upgrade to karmic, but for now I'm using a built but normally released version
[16:38] <darthanubis> Nvidia driver installation never failed
[16:39] <darthanubis> 8series, 5series, even and old 440mx
[16:39] <Mamarok> kaddi: gah, mono....
[16:40] <kaddi> Mamarok: what? :p
[16:40] <daeron> listen, i saw now in synaptic i've installed nvidia-<number>-modaliases, with modaliases 71,96,173,180
[16:40] <daeron> all of all installed
[16:40] <BluesKaj> ioan, are you sure that tutorial dor nvidia drivers still applies ? It's over 2 yrs old
[16:40] <daeron> maybe is it this?
[16:41] <Mamarok> kaddi: KDE doesn't use it
[16:41] <ioan> las time when i did an sh install of nvidia driver was about a year ago but that is the standard procedure for manually installing nvidia drivers
[16:42] <darthanubis> and unneccesary
[16:42] <kaddi> Mamarok:  Is there a KDE equivalent to mono then? I need to use it for some .net-tools I need to run under kubuntu. and the .net framework won't install with wine
[16:43] <darthanubis> kaddi: thank god no
[16:43] <daeron> well know i'm trying to install the driver manually from synaptic
[16:43] <Mamarok> kaddi: no, KDE doesn't use C* neither, everything is Qt and C++
[16:43] <daeron> let's see what happens
[16:43] <Mamarok> C#
[16:44] <kaddi> so mono ist just bad and shouldn't be used, but there is no alternative if you want to run .net-stuff under kubuntu?
[16:44] <darthanubis> absence of MONO is why i just switched to kubuntu
[16:47] <ioan> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[16:47] <ioan> here should be a tutorial about installing nvidia drivers in linux
[16:52] <daeron> still her and nothing happened
[16:52] <daeron> *here
[16:56] <vitocorleone> algun español?
[16:56] <vitocorleone> o que hable castellano almenos xD
[16:56] <daeron> yo lo hablo
[16:56] <kaddi> !es
[16:56] <daeron> pero no sè si puedo ayudarte
[16:57] <vitocorleone> gracias ubottu
[17:04] <johnnymac> i can share printers with samba can i do the same with NFS?
[17:05] <Tm_T> johnnymac: well, you can just simply share cups server
[17:06] <Tm_T> which you already use locally
[17:06] <ubuntu> blz
[17:07] <johnnymac> Tm_T: Thanks how do you know I use that locally?
[17:08] <ubuntu> br
[17:08] <ubuntu> br
[17:08] <ubuntu> ?
[17:09] <ubuntu> para o brasil
[17:09] <llutz> !br
[17:09] <Tm_T> johnnymac: that's the printer system you use in linux, unix and mac
[17:09] <Tm_T> !cups | johnnymac
[17:10] <d3ng> hi
[17:10] <d3ng> which log should i check if i got login problems?
[17:10] <johnnymac> Thanks you two.
[17:11] <d3ng> im on jaunty 9.04 and if i try to login the screen gets black and i fallback to the login screen again
[17:11] <johnnymac> Another question: where is the /etc/inittab file showing run level information in ubuntu
[17:11] <llutz> d3ng: check free space on /, /home and permissions of /tmp
[17:11] <Tm_T> d3ng: /home/user/.xsession-errors perhaps
[17:12] <d3ng> i also get "welcome to localhost.localdomain" not my realmachine name
[17:12] <d3ng> -.-
[17:12] <d3ng> sex llutz
[17:12] <d3ng> oh
[17:12] <d3ng> sec*
[17:12] <d3ng> :p
[17:12] <FloodBotK2> d3ng: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:13] <d3ng> space is way enough.
[17:14] <d3ng> xsession errors is empty.
[17:14] <d3ng> its a pretty clean/new install
[17:18] <macrobat_> johnnymac: there is no inittab in ubuntu, there is upstart
[17:19] <johnnymac> where is the file that when opened shows ubuntu's runlevels?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> johnnymac, /etc/rc*d
[17:24] <johnnymac> BluesKaj: Thanks, I was hoping for one readable easy file like 'inittab'
[17:24] <johnnymac> oh well.
[17:25] <BluesKaj> johnnymac, just sub the runlevel numbe in *
[17:27] <johnnymac> BluesKaj: /etc/innittab was just the one file with runlevel info . I guess ubuntu does not have that.
[17:32] <BluesKaj> johnnymac,  /etc/innittab is not a familiar file to my eyes :P
[17:36] <BluesKaj> johnnymac, /etc/event.d/rc-default .. maybe ?
[17:38] <johnnymac> BluesKaj: if you look for /etc/inittab you will see it shows the different runlevels the OS has. Maybe ubuntu does not have that?
[17:39] <yesitisjustme> If laptop has no cdrom can i connect laptop harddrive to desktop install there and then put laptop harddrive back to laptop, will it detect the new hardware?
[17:39] <BluesKaj> johnnymac, that above file has reference to /etc/inittab
[17:40] <johnnymac> As in it does not have a similar file as ubunutu handles runlevels in a different way.
[17:40] <johnnymac> BluesKaj: I know but it is not there, the file that it references :)
[17:43] <BluesKaj> johnnymac, debian eh ?  :)
[17:45] <BluesKaj> johnnymac, scroll down to the bottom of this page , this may help you set one up : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/since-we-have-no-etcinittab-506281/
[17:49] <johnnymac> BluesKaj: Thanks !
[17:49] <BluesKaj> johnnymac, np :)
[18:00] <eliteshark> hey all i have a question
[18:05] <Captain_Haddock> !question
[18:06] <JuhazOne> let's see if there's anyone now who knows about my problem
[18:07] <JuhazOne> i'm using kde3... for some reason kde won't use the blank screensaver even though i told it to in the settings
[18:07] <JuhazOne> it seems to pick the screensaver at random
[18:08] <JuhazOne> anyone have an idea about this?
[18:10] <Captain_Haddock> JuhazOne: no idea... but, you can also try asking in #kde (fyi)
[18:10] <JuhazOne> k, thanks
[18:11] <seanoreilly> hello
[18:13] <fusion44> does kubuntu install the kde packages into /usr ?
[18:14] <llutz> yes
[18:15] <fusion44> ok thanks you :)
[18:15] <fusion44> -s
[18:18] <johnnymac> of the shell based browsers (e.g links, elinks, lynx - maybe more?) which is the easiest to use??
[18:20] <llutz> johnnymac: define "easy" :) /me prefers elinks
[18:22] <johnnymac> easy=short learning curve
[18:25] <eliteshark> what latest version of kubuntu?
[18:27] <BluesKaj> eliteshark, stable or experimental ?
[18:29] <soon> I've just installed KTorrent - I'm not familiar with torrent at all. I've downloaded a torrent file and opened it in KTorrent. I only get 'Hanging' - should I do anything in aprticular to start the download?
[18:31] <BluesKaj> soon, did you configure ktorrent in "settings" , you have to indicate which folder you want the finished torrent to reside in etc
[18:33] <soon> I'll just have a look
[18:34] <soon> That did it BluesKaj :-) Thx!
[18:34] <soon> Is your name Kaj (Danish?)
[18:56] <jumpkick> does kde4.3 fix the problem I have with kde4.2 that it freezes after 10 minutes?
[18:58] <jumpkick> oh nevermind, kde4.2.96 is kde4.3
[18:58] <jumpkick> guess that would be no
[18:58] <jumpkick> ar
[18:59] <jumpkick> maybe it was kpackagekit running that toasted it
[19:04] <eliteshark> stable
[19:34] <ubuntu> rsrrsrrs
[19:36] <Mamarok> ubuntu: what are you doing?
[19:37] <leaf-sheep> He got a fetish for compiling errors, me think.
[19:43] <brad__> Hello I am trying to a build a few plasmoids from source and they all keep giving me this error:  checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!
[19:47] <brad__> nobody knows? :-(
[19:50] <Zorael> brad__: Well, have you supplied a prefix? Usually it defaults to /usr/local, and you'll likely want it to be /usr
[19:50] <Zorael> brad__: so './configure --prefix=/usr'
[19:52] <brad__> Zorael, It still didn't work
[19:52] <brad__> Idk if this will help but I'm using AMD64
[19:52] <brad__> I've been searching on google for the past two hours and I can't find anything that works.
[19:53] <Zorael> Perhaps you are missing necessary KDE dev libs, then. Does none of them say which ones are necessary?
[19:56] <brad__> Zorael, no :-( that's why this is so difficult lol the people who made them I guess just assume it's going to work and don't write any instructions
[19:56] <Zorael> Something like 'sudo aptitude build-dep plasma-widgets-addons' should pull common plasma widget dev libs
[19:57] <Zorael> Try that and ./configure with --prefix=/usr afterwards
[19:58] <Zorael> (after it's done installing, obviously.)
[20:05] <Count123> alright, I've been having quite a bit of a problem for a long time, and I'm just wondering if anyone has heard of this
[20:05] <Count123> kubuntu hardy, 64 bit
[20:06] <Count123> many programs will just say 'not responding' and then be unuseable
[20:06] <Count123> open office is completely unuseable
[20:06] <Count123> I do not have those problems with kde4 programs though
[20:07] <_abbenormal> hey guys just had this happen on install nvidia drivers and now i get this on bootup reloading postfix configurations ... and just a flashing cursor
[20:09] <Captain_Haddock> Count123: sometimes, starting the program from a terminal will help identify the issue
[20:09] <Captain_Haddock> (the terminal will usually contain telltale error messages)
[20:10] <Captain_Haddock> _abbenormal: the boot manager (grub) will usually have something like a safe mode, you could try using that to get in and take things from there.
[20:11] <Captain_Haddock> brad__: you can probably get more suitable assistance in #kde
[20:12] <Count123> yeah, running open office from terminal, even though it doesn't work, doesn't give me any error messages
[20:13] <Count123> no messages at all actually
[20:13] <Captain_Haddock> and it's hung?
[20:13] <Count> I get the initial loading screen
[20:14] <Count> that loads, then nothing
[20:14] <Captain_Haddock> hmm, perhaps it's a java thing
[20:14] <Captain_Haddock> do you have a .openoffice or similar in your home directory?
[20:15] <Count> yeah, I have .openoffice.org2
[20:15] <snarkster> i need some helping find the right kernel parameter for 720x480
[20:15] <Count> and it's not just open office either, it's pretty much all kde 3 programs
[20:16] <Captain_Haddock> Count: try *renaming* it to something else and restart openoffice
[20:16] <Captain_Haddock> oh I see
[20:16] <Count> and even in programs that are otherwise working, if you need to browse for a file, the file finder that comes up will not work
[20:17] <Captain_Haddock> is your installation up-to-date?
[20:18] <Count> not quite :/
[20:18] <ikonia> snarkster: vga=ask
[20:18] <Captain_Haddock> Count: up-to-date as in via adept?
[20:19] <Count> because adept_notify also doesn't work, I wasn't able to see the packages that needed to be upgraded, until yesterday, when I found I could actually run adept_manager from terminal and be able to use that
[20:20] <Count> I was downloading the majority of the files I need, when of course my router decided to be a pain, cutting me off from the internet, and crashing adept
[20:20] <Captain_Haddock> Count: run "sudo apt-get update" (and later "sudo apt-get upgrade") from a terminal.
[20:20] <Captain_Haddock> it will pick things up from when it was last interrupted.
[20:21] <Count> er, it's not
[20:23] <Count> I'm also on a 256k connection, so it takes a very long time to actually download things :/
[20:23] <lumprich> hi , I´m use kde 4.2.4 which ubuntu 9.04. akonadi will not work which me ( a second user have no problems) The error log can see here http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/812. Sorry for my bad english.
[20:24] <lumprich> my homedirectory is decrypt
[20:34] <Count> 17% for only some of the files :/
[20:37] <Count123> and it looks like my router failed again
[20:42] <snarkster> can someone please direct me to where I can get information regarding vga option for kernel
[20:42] <snarkster> ive done alot of googleing already
[20:43] <llutz> snarkster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions
[20:44] <ioan> graphics are handled by x server snarkster
[20:44] <llutz> ioan: not vga kernel-option
[20:45] <_abbenormal> hey Captain_Haddock is there a good how2 for using the nvidia drivers from there site on 9.0.4
[20:46] <ioan> you should have the option to install proprietary nvidia drivers _abbenormal -if you want the newest package from nvidia you can find a how to there
[20:47] <_abbenormal> thanks ioan looking
[20:48] <ioan> but you have to manually stop x server and log to console and run the package
[20:49] <alessio> hi guy
[20:53] <ioan> here's the link _abbenormal if you didn't find it already
[20:53] <ioan> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[20:53] <_abbenormal> thanks
[20:54] <alessio> kubuntu 9.04 is great :-)
[20:55] <_abbenormal> ive done that and get this now when i reboot back into kubuntu   reloading postfix configurations
[20:55] <alessio> hi guy i'have a problem
[20:56] <alessio> when connect my smartphone
[20:56] <alessio> the serial port is closed
[21:01] <alessio> please
[21:11] <snarkster> llutz: Thank you just what i needed
[21:13] <Captain_Haddock> alessio: your smartphone uses a serial cable? not USB?
[21:19] <alessio> captain
[21:19] <alessio> use a USB
[21:19] <alessio> i'm have a Nokia N95
[21:56] <mikesol> hello guys
[21:56] <_abbenormal> hello
[21:56] <mikesol> i have a really trouble installing kubutu
[21:57] <_abbenormal> whats happening
[21:57] <mikesol> I just download kubuntu 9.04
[21:58] <mikesol> and i'm trying to install it on my brother's computer, but it prompts a console named initramfs
[21:58] <mikesol> what can i do???
[21:59] <mikesol> the computer is a toshiba a300
[22:00] <_abbenormal> so it stops loading at that
[22:00] <mikesol> yes
[22:01] <mikesol> and doesn't do anything
[22:02] <mikesol> i'm booting from a usb stick, created by usb-creator
[22:02] <rmrfslash> Does anyone else see "Shirtoko" as the name of Firefox 3.5?
[22:02] <rmrfslash> Or am I the only one
[22:02] <Captain_Haddock> mikesol: it's very likely some HDD detection issues.
[22:02] <mikesol> ok
[22:02] <mikesol> what can i do
[22:02] <llutz> rmrfslash: thats the name of ubuntus ff-3.5
[22:03] <rmrfslash> Since it's modded?
[22:03] <llutz> i think so
[22:03] <rmrfslash> I see.... they removed all the firefox branding too?
[22:03] <mikesol> could you explain me?
[22:03] <p_quarles> rmrfslash: no, it was the development code name
[22:03] <rmrfslash> p_quarles: then why does my installing still say shiretoko?
[22:03] <rmrfslash> p_quarels: I _just_ installed it.
[22:03] <Captain_Haddock> mikesol: I don't have any suggestion besides asking you to burn to a CD or DVD and try. I'm not familiar with USB installations, sorry.
[22:04] <p_quarles> rmrfslash: because you installed the one in the jaunty repos, which is pre-release
[22:04] <mikesol> ok i'm going to try with a cd
[22:04] <mikesol> thanks
[22:04] <rmrfslash> I see
[22:04] <mikesol> see you later
[22:04] <Captain_Haddock> mikesol: good luck :)
[22:04] <mikesol> thanks
[22:04] <rmrfslash> p_quarles: so eventually this will become "Firefox" 3.5?
[22:05] <devilsadvocate_> rmrfslash, it wont for jaunty.
[22:05] <rmrfslash> p_quarles: I see. So 3.5 will be "official" under 9.10 I presume
[22:05] <p_quarles> only if you use the backports version; I don't see why it matters what the name is, though
[22:05] <p_quarles> at all
[22:05] <devilsadvocate_> rmrfslash, you actually have 2 ffs running. if you execute firefox it'll run 3.0.whatever. if you run firefox-3.5 you get 3.5
[22:05] <p_quarles> rmrfslash: probably
[22:05] <devilsadvocate_> rmrfslash, yes
[22:06] <rmrfslash> devilsadvocate: I uninstalled  firefox-3.0
[22:07] <rmrfslash> p_quarles: it's not a huge show stopping problem. It's just odd that I'm left w/ this thing called "Shiretoko"
[22:07] <Captain_Haddock> rmrfslash: it's probably so both versions can coexist.
[22:07] <p_quarles> well, take it up with whoever's responsible for Firefox production codenames
[22:08] <devilsadvocate_> rmrfslash, well, its not officially supported on jaunty
[22:08] <rmrfslash> I see.
[22:08] <rmrfslash> and that makes a bit more sense
[22:09] <rmrfslash> which is of upmost importance, that it makes sense to me
[22:09] <rmrfslash> :-/
[22:09] <p_quarles> once an Ubuntu version gets released, it's rare for any package to get a version upgrade except in backports; it's not how the development cycle is designed
[22:09] <rmrfslash> I see.
[22:10] <p_quarles> Ubuntu 6.06, which just got to eol recently, used Firefox 1.5 for the entire time (I believe; I wasn't using it myself, so I can't say for sure)
[22:10] <rmrfslash> so I can get a backports upgrade of firefox
[22:11] <rmrfslash> I guess I'm not sure what "backport" is then
[22:12] <rmrfslash> So a backport is applying a new patch to an older version
[22:13] <rmrfslash> So why would an upgrade to firefox-3.5 be a backport? Aren't software upgrades always a backport?
[22:15] <p_quarles> the backports repository is an extra, non-default repository for Ubuntu with packages provided by community members; not officially supported
[22:15] <rmrfslash> OK... makes sense.
[22:15] <rmrfslash> So aptitude install firefox-3.5 is an official but development package for jaunty
[22:16] <rmrfslash> which is why it's called shiretoko... cuz it's slated for official release w/ (probably) 9.10
[22:16] <rmrfslash> Am I correct?
[22:17] <p_quarles> rmrfslash: it's called Shiretoko because that's what Mozilla called it before it was released to the general public; and the copy of Firefox 3.5 in Jaunty was built before it was officially released
[22:18] <rmrfslash> I see.
[22:18] <p_quarles> it's a development codename just like "Jaunty Jackalope", or "Windows Longhorn"
[22:18] <KittyBoots> I just installed KDE but when I login knetworkmanager does not start so I start it from a terminal and it will not connect to router.  I am logged into gnome at the moment.  How can I fix this KDE problem?
[22:18] <p_quarles> it doesn't mean it's no longer Firefox
[22:20] <rmrfslash> p_quarles: I totally get codenames. I just don't know why it's still called Shiretoko. I mean, the official forefox 3.5 is released. I would have expected that Ubuntu would have applied their customizations to that version already.... thus it wouldn't be named Shiretoko. Not that this is even a problem for me. I already changed the icon and anyone who uses my computer will recognize firefox.
[22:21] <rmrfslash> p_quarles: it's just that I'm somewhat detail-oriented. I notice and dwell on details.... perhaps to the extent of "too much" :)
[22:25] <Zxcvb> how do you get 4.2.4 if you have already updated to 4.3 RC?
[22:26] <rmrfslash> Yep, it looks like Ubuntu keeps branding for the default firefox. Also, like devilsadvocate said earlier, "we want them to be able to be installed side-by-side"
[22:26] <rmrfslash> Saw this on a google result
[22:32] <rmrfslash> Chromifox Extreme, Chromifox Companion and Hide Menubar Firefox extensions.
[22:32] <rmrfslash> Very cool.
[22:33] <nonewmsgs> even though i am using my "high definition" built-in soundcard, only one program can have access to the soundcard at one time.  is there a fix for this or do ihave to stick in a better card?
[23:13] <Zxcvb> ok, I upgraded to kde 4.2.4 and now there is a bar of stuff at the top of the screen but the rest of the screen is empty
[23:14] <AlexZion> Zxcvb: probably you have to remove all the plasmoid , included th epanel , and put back all you need ...
[23:14] <Zxcvb> how do you do that?
[23:15] <AlexZion> unlocks the plasmoids and than right click and remove
[23:27] <snarkster> when i use vlc to play movie files across an nfs share it hardlocks the system.
[23:27] <snarkster> Im going to attempt dragonplayer and see if it does the same thing
[23:29] <snarkster> ok dragonplayer also hard locks the system. can anyone explain to me whats happening?
[23:40] <jpetso83> seems i cannot build qt-webkit because libphonon-dev ships without the include alias files (e.g. Phonon/AudioOutput instead of Phonon/audiooutput.h)
[23:40] <jpetso83> any suggestions on how to solve that? do i need to build phonon by myself?
[23:49] <bulletxt> hi, I'm having serious problems with Kubuntu. My monitor is a crt pihlips 17°. It supports high resolutions like 1900*1600 , however I want to set kde to be 1280*1024. When I set kde4 to this resolution and then reboot computer, kde just forgets about my setting and sets resolution at 1900*1600.... why is it forgetting resolution ? thanks for help
[23:52] <bulletxt> I have this bug since I got this monitor and kde always gave me this problem.... gnome doesn't............... :(


[08:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #2301: SUCCESS in 47 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/2301/
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 Hey @acheronuk, do you have a few minutes to discuss a couple of things?
 @Santa, go for it
 @acheronuk ok, first of all I made a few fixes for the merging script, so hopefully it could work a bit better on the next rounds of debian merges, once I get home I plan to re-test the thing and release ka 2.2 rc1. For 2.3 there is already a branch where I have been porting the docs to Sphinx to have decent HTML docs instead of plain text, I think they will be much more pleasant to read in this format.
 ok
 I have a few things more to mention but Im on the phone, so we could continue when I get back @ home
 @Santa, suits me
 Ack
[13:33] <ngraham[m]> Got a polish bug for us: https://phabricator.kde.org/T9034
 thanks
[14:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
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 @acheronuk ok, I'm back, let's continue?
 ok
 regarding plasma 5.13 (just curious) does it need a new Qt version?
 yes. >= 5.10
 and we have 5.9 in cosmic and bionic
 yes @tsimonq2 is doing 5.11 here https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3291
 fine, so other topic, the op pyramid
 I have been doing some work here to deal with the dhmk -> dh switch, the solution I have is a bunch of small tweaks of pkg-kde-tools: this provides the "== Start foo" "== End foo" markers in the build log, BOTH for packages using dhmk and pure dh. That is much much better than the first bunch of ideas I had about this, there's however an unavoidable, but easy to fix glitch
 Personally I would like to apply this solution before any plasma or apps merge, because this way we won't have to revert the dhmk -> dh debian change. So I will try to find some time to explain my proposed solution in the wiki page, and we could decide when we would apply it.
 Sounds good? Are we on the same page?
 fine by me. eny ETA on being able to merge with that in place?
 I would say a few days tops; the merge script is ready, the only remaining things I have to do is releasing a new KA with that code we have in master and document the pyramid long term solution
 and I will try to get that done today
 ok. simon was asking if we want to land plasma with new Qt, which would be better if merged 1st. but Qt may be a week or so, so timing is ok there if we want to do that
 ok, we will see if we can do that (I think we can, but not 100% sure)
 np. would just be nice if we could. if not, no big deal
 ok. gotta go for a bit. thank you :)
 ok, let me know when yo are back, see you :)
[22:16] <acheronuk> santa_: anything to add to what we discussed earlier?
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 Yep, but I'm going to bed so let's talk tomorrow, gnight everyone.
 Night!
 ok, 💤
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