[12:00] <confrey> andy-, thanks, I know it, but I need to create a new theme, or to modify an existing theme, for example, changing the color of window's background, and so on
[12:01] <andy-> confrey: in that window, click Theme Details
[12:01] <andy-> pretty sure you can change it around in there.
[12:03] <test> Oh yeah and what are emblems all about?
[12:03] <zcat[1] _> grrr; first time I booted this PC everything works. Installed, vereything still working. Upgraded to 686 kernel and it won't boot. Went back to 386 kernel and sound stopped working. Reinstalled 686 kernel and everything works again. WTF!!
[12:03] <confrey> andy-, it's not possible to change anything, I only can choose several themes about windows and icons; I need to change the details of the theme
[12:03] <PanicFo> ive installed apache, php and mysql but apache does recognize mysql
[12:03] <PanicFo> any ideas?
[12:03] <zcat[1] _> starting to think the hardware might not be 100%
[12:03] <stefg> !lamp
[12:03] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:04] <mamatoshi> !lamp
[12:04] <zcat[1] _> </rant>
[12:04] <zcat[1] _> will return it to the owner before anything else breaks :)
[12:04] <andy-> confrey:  check http://www.gnomethemes.org/ maybe.
[12:04] <erf> Hey, is there anyway to stop the VNC server builtin to dapper asking if I want the current user to accept the VNC session?
[12:05] <zcat[1] _> erf: checkbox, set a password instead...
[12:05] <confrey> andy-, thanks
[12:05] <erf> zcat[1] , I did
[12:05] <zcat[1] _> uncheck the 'ask user' checkbox..
[12:05] <andy-> confrey: try http://gnometux.blogspot.com/2005/07/quick-theme-changing.html too
[12:06] <test> What are emblems  and sticky used for?
[12:07] <erf> Got it thanks :)
[12:07] <test> What are emblems  and sticky used for?
[12:08] <zcat[1] _> afaik emblems are just to let you make files stand out on the desktop.. sticky makes evexutables run as the owner instead of whoever ran it, directories give new files the same permissions as the directory itself..
[12:09] <tmccrar1> Xorg's build system sucks
[12:09] <tmccrar1> badly
[12:09] <test> zcat[1] _: Thanks
[12:10] <erf> ugh, is there anyway to allow the VNC server access the login screen?
[12:10] <zcat[1] _> found a nice usb keyboard yesterday, would be perfect for my lappy except the lappy's USB plug is also munted :(
[12:10] <vancik> hi
[12:10] <christianpiper> Hey! Help- I just installed dapper on my new desktop. I have installed Nvidia-glx and it gives me 85 Hz instead of 60 hz, but I am still limited to 1024x768.. Dapper on another comp with this screen worked up to 1600x1200, and windows does on this computer. I have an Evga 7900Gt
[12:11] <zcat[1] _> erf: I set mu gdm to log me in.. solves that problem :)
[12:11] <erf> zcat[1] , a bit insecure :)
[12:11] <zcat[1] _> christianpiper: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:11] <zcat[1] _> !resolutions
[12:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about resolutions - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:12] <zcat[1] _> !resolution
[12:12] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:12] <Ackeubu_> my lapy is craching, It crashes emediately when i logg in to gnome, it crashes after some use in fluxbox. a couple of minutes of use... What could that be??
[12:12] <zcat[1] _> erf: if someone has access to the box it's already insecure anyhow.. init=/bin/bash, etc...
[12:13] <Ackeubu_> I mean it stops responding to keyboard and mouse events..
[12:13] <zcat[1] _> Ackeubu_: apt-get remove irda-utils
[12:13] <regress> when I try to mount one of th epartitions, it says it's already mounted or busy...how cna I tell where it's mounted?
[12:13] <vancik> hi
[12:14] <foo> Bleh, I just installed ubuntu and I forgot what password I installed with. heh. How can I reset my password? I would just login as root.. but I guess I can't do that.
[12:14] <Netslayer> how do i install the foomatic print drivers?
[12:14] <erf> Im the only person with an account on the box, but I dont want say my little brother to walk by and start screwing with it whilst Im not logged in
[12:14] <Ackeubu_> zcat[1]  irda-utils was not installed
[12:15] <Mattchewie> :|
[12:15] <mamatoshi> regress: see your /etc/fstab file
[12:15] <zcat[1] _> Ackeubu_: check /var/log/messages and /var/log/xorg.0.log  - one of those should tell you something anyhow.. in my case it was irda support, whick only gets loaded after gdm so it looked like gdm had a problem. took a while to figure out :)
[12:16] <regress> mamatoshi: this is a live DVD, so I don't think it should be lsited there, right?
[12:16] <MTecknology> Seveas, what bot is ubotu?
[12:16] <zcat[1] _> .. and the i found lots of ppl had the same problem.
[12:16] <MTecknology> @lart mtecknology
[12:16] <mamatoshi> regress:: you can try to go the /media/ using nautilus to see the partitions
[12:17] <MTecknology> !lart mtecknology
[12:17] <zcat[1] _> !bot
[12:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about lart mtecknology - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:17] <zcat[1] _> !botsnack
[12:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about botsnack - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:17] <ironfroggy> how can i move one partition's beginning to a smaller offset from the beginning of the drive?
[12:17] <zcat[1] _> awwww...
[12:19] <zcat[1] _> better tidy up some of the crap around here.. my wife thinks four computers in the lounge room is excessive...
[12:19] <MTecknology> Seveas, so if I want to use eveything that ubotu has, I need to ask you to make it join my room? then you have full permission in my room?
[12:19] <mamatoshi> !info nvida-glx
[12:19] <ubotu> Package nvida-glx does not exist in dapper
[12:20] <mamatoshi> !info nvidia-glx
[12:20] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8762+<IP_ADDRESS>-3 (dapper), package size 3963 kB, installed size 12240 kB
[12:20] <ttyfscker>  LC_ALL = (unset),    how do i set that?
[12:20] <boga> I need advice on a Dualhead video card for Dapper. I do not do anything unusual save for coding. Thanx
[12:20] <verbose> ttyfscker: is that supposed to be an environment variable?
[12:21] <boga> I need a cheap one too. Should I go AGP or PCI?
[12:21] <ttyfscker> verbose:: yes
[12:21] <verbose> ttyfscker: export LC_ALL=<value>
[12:21] <christianpiper> Oh- Thanks guys! I am workin on it now
[12:21] <Cornellius> I'm looking for a book or a doc that will tell me how Linux works internally. I already have some books, but all they tell are the commands, how to do the same as in Windows, how to configure Grub, Xorg, etc. Anyone have some good suggestions ?
[12:21] <regress> mamatoshi: I had assumed that the live dvd would automount the partitions to the desktop
[12:21] <verbose> if you want it to stick across reboots echo "export LC_ALL=<value>" ~/.bashrc
[12:21] <regress> where would /media be?
[12:21] <Seveas> MTecknology, please don't do offtopic talk in here
[12:21] <ttyfscker> what should it be verbose
[12:21] <verbose> unless you're running a different shell than bash
[12:21] <regress> there is dloppydrive;dvddrive;243MB volume; /boot;filesystem
[12:22] <ttyfscker> en? us_en, utf-8 ??
[12:22] <mjr> boga, I'd just get an ati 9250, supported by free drivers. Failing that, ati <=x800, supported by free drivers also, though only experimental opengl acceleration
[12:23] <boga> mjr: thanx,,,is that PCI or AGP? Which is better anyway?
[12:23] <mamatoshi> regress:: /media is the directory where all the partitions in your hard drive being mounted.
[12:24] <andi5> hi.... how can i unload all alsa modules and start over again? (my usb camera claimed to be audio device no. 1, somehow i has lost conn to computer now ;-))
[12:24] <Cornellius> The kind of book that will let me understand, LFS, Gentoo, ArchLinux, etc
[12:24] <regress> mamatoshi: nothing there
[12:24] <regress> under nautilus filesystem->media
[12:24] <mamatoshi> regress:: try to do the mount command
[12:24] <verbose> ttyfscker: i have no idea, what is telling you it needs it?
[12:25] <ttyfscker> setting locale failed please make sure that your locale settings are correct.. blah blah
[12:25] <ttyfscker> producing a lot of output when installing new packages
[12:26] <livingdaylight> Can anyone say why my screensaver doesn't work any more?
[12:26] <ttyfscker> then i seen one that said cant set locale, please make sure that $LC_* and $LANG are correct
[12:27] <regress> mamatoshi: I used "mount /dev/hdc2 /media/hdd", where I already made the hdd folder. I get "mount: /dev/hdc2 already mounted or hdd busy"
[12:27] <livingdaylight> my screensaver doesn't work any more :|
[12:27] <Ackeubu_> zcat[1] : whats the bluetooth library? how to uninstall?
[12:27] <ttyfscker> livingdaylight:: are you trying to run screensaver as root?
[12:27] <ttyfscker> or sudo?
[12:27] <mamatoshi> regress:: just used "mount", it will show you all the partition that has been mounted
[12:28] <regress> heh, that makes sense
[12:28] <ttyfscker> !ops
[12:28] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[12:28] <livingdaylight> ttyfscker: huh. what has sudo got to do witih root?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> yes?
[12:28] <Hobbsee> ttyfscker: ?
[12:28] <ttyfscker> livingdaylight:: lol
[12:28] <regress> ah man, it's not listed as being mounted...I guess that means hd busy.
[12:28] <regress> any help? I'll start googling
[12:28] <ttyfscker> Hobbsee and gnomefreak i was seeing who the ops were in here
[12:29] <livingdaylight> ttyfscker: its not funny, where is my screensaver?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> i did that too
[12:29] <ttyfscker> dang.. sorry
[12:29] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: my screensaver doesn't work anymore
[12:29] <gnomefreak> kde?
[12:30] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: gnome
[12:30] <mamatoshi> regress:: have you try the "sudo mount /dev/hdc2 /media/hdd"
[12:30] <gnomefreak> ok hmmmm ubuntu version?
[12:30] <regress> mamatoshi: yup
[12:31] <mamatoshi> regress:: have you create the hdd directory in /media ?
[12:31] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: ubuntu version? yes, running ubuntu
[12:31] <regress> yup
[12:31] <olrrai> hi
[12:31] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: what version of ubuntu?
[12:31] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: what screensaver?
[12:31] <olrrai> i cannot find mc on synaptic
[12:31] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: what about it doesnt work?
[12:31] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: used to work, and then i configured a graphics card and since then screensaver doesn't run
[12:31] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: Dapper
[12:31] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: most of them
[12:31] <regress> so I guess the hd really is busy....not sure how. I can mount hdc1 without problem, but seems something is going on with hdc2
[12:31] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: nvidia?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: do you have 3d accell enabled?
[12:32] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: yea, but ive disabled it and i'm back to the defau;lt onboard graphics
[12:32] <mamatoshi> regress:: have you try another mounting point?
[12:32] <regress> I think so, but let me try again
[12:32] <nalioth> !patience > livingdaylight
[12:32] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: the screensavers worked with 3d and dont work now?
[12:33] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: hmmm...as i recall they didn't work with nvidia either, but n0w that ive reverted i expect them to work as they used to
[12:33] <gnomefreak> lol Seveas
[12:33] <livingdaylight> nalioth: what are you on about?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: is it just the gl ones that dont work?
[12:34] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: the gl ones?
[12:34] <Viper550> Guess what, I just found out the best use for XGL
[12:34] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: the screensavers like example glmatrix
[12:34] <gnomefreak> Viper550: please join #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-xgl for that
[12:35] <olrrai> i cannot find mc on synaptic. what is happend?
[12:35] <nalioth> !repos > olrrai
[12:35] <nalioth> olrrai: enable univers and multiverse repos
[12:36] <_3fg> I am trying to boot from a gparted CD too partition my drive for ubuntu
[12:36] <olrrai> ohh thanks
[12:36] <_3fg> I get this error:
[12:36] <_3fg> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[12:36] <_3fg> what do I do?
[12:36] <_3fg> are there any other choices for partitioning?
[12:36] <ttyfscker> i said i was sorry for doing the !ops once.. how many times do i have to appologize Seveas
[12:36] <dreamcatcher5172> anyone have experience sharing files between windows computers and my ubuntu computer on my home network?\
[12:37] <dreamcatcher5172> I followed the guide and set the password though it still doesnt work
[12:37] <regress> mamatoshi: hmm, actually it says the directoy is busy
[12:37] <regress> example: "sudo mount /dev/hdc2 /myhdd" ->
[12:37] <nalioth> _3fg: the ubuntu installer has gparted on it
[12:38] <regress> mount: /dev/hdc2 already mounted or /myhdd busy
[12:38] <_3fg> nalioth: I used the ubuntu livecd on another computer and it erased the drive when I manually partitioned
[12:38] <Mysta> LjL: are you there?
[12:39] <mamatoshi> regress:: hmm, it is really weird.. :-) maybe because it is the LiveDVD system..
[12:39] <LjL> Mysta: yes
[12:39] <regress> yeah, that seems it probably
[12:39] <dreamcatcher5172> anyone have experience sharing folders on ubuntu with windows computers on the home network?
[12:39] <CalusoXP> hello
[12:40] <mamatoshi> regress:: sorry, i can't help :D
[12:40] <stefg> dreamcatcher5172: no big deal, what's teh prob
[12:40] <regress> haha, no problem!
[12:40] <Mysta> LjL: woops, figured it out. sorry
[12:40] <_3fg> nalioth: any help?
[12:40] <regress> I'll keep it up...i just recorded some chinese language tapes to mp3, and I wanted to get those mp3's off before I install ubuntu
[12:40] <CalusoXP> I need some help with the partitioning
[12:41] <foo> Wow, I just installed ubuntu and forgot the password I used. How do I go about resetting it?
[12:41] <CalusoXP> is there any guide-
[12:41] <dreamcatcher5172> i followed the network guide from the website and the password is set though i still cant access files from windows comps
[12:41] <Kyral> What about partitioning?
[12:41] <Kyral> I can give you some advice
[12:41] <CalusoXP> yes pls
[12:41] <_3fg> I need partitioning help too
[12:41] <Kyral> First off
[12:42] <_3fg> can we all go into another channel?
[12:42] <Kyral> having a partition for /home is VERY wise
[12:42] <Kyral> Well, if more than one person needs it, and for once I'm ontopic....
[12:42] <_3fg> how do I set that up?
[12:42] <delight> aloa ppl ;)
[12:42] <stefg> !samba > dreamcatcher5172
[12:42] <CalusoXP> i want to keep home, root, tmp and others dirs in different partitions
[12:42] <Kyral> (Keep in mind I haven't used the Desktop INstaller, just the old fashioned one
[12:42] <Kyral> CalusoXP: you mean /root or /
[12:43] <stefg> dreamcatcher5172: you did install samba, didn#t you?
[12:43] <CalusoXP> every dir
[12:43] <Kyral> The most common splitup is /boot, /, /home, /usr, and /var on their own partitions
[12:43] <Kyral> The others just don't matter
[12:43] <CalusoXP> hhhmm
[12:43] <Kyral> and it becomes a pain to keep track of how much space is on what
[12:43] <_3fg> and I want to partition the drive while keeping the stuff that is on there safe
[12:43] <CalusoXP> somebody told me that is good to keep tmp dir on a different partition
[12:43] <Kyral> _3fg: Ain't possible
[12:44] <_3fg> orly?
[12:44] <Kyral> Yes
[12:44] <_3fg> So
[12:44] <Kyral> I mean it IS, but you'd have to do the old data suffle
[12:44] <_3fg> I can't have windows on one partition?
[12:44] <Kyral> Yes you can
[12:44] <_3fg> how?
[12:44] <Kyral> Install Windows
[12:44] <bobovski> hi all, can someone help me with a problem specific to the totem video player?
[12:44] <Kyral> then install Linux :P
[12:44] <_3fg> um
[12:44] <_3fg> ok I installed windows
[12:44] <Kyral> the installer should take care of resizing
[12:45] <Kyral> NTFS is happy about resizing
[12:45] <_3fg> the other computer I tried it on erased the whole hard drive
[12:45] <CalusoXP> but he will need to leave space w/o formating
[12:45] <Kyral> oh, but never about moving its beginning point
[12:45] <Kyral> this goes for ANY filesystem
[12:45] <Kyral> they HATE that
[12:45] <_3fg> ?
[12:45] <Kyral> (Firsthand experance)
[12:45] <_3fg> I just need to keep windows on this hd
[12:45] <Kyral> You can shrink and resize
[12:45] <_3fg> and also partition it for ubuntu
[12:45] <Kyral> just don't move where it "begins"
[12:45] <_3fg> ok how
[12:46] <Kyral> the installer should have a facility
[12:46] <mee22> is there a step by step guide for installing a 3com wireless card.. i have the file(s) compressed. I an very new to the ubuntu OS
[12:46] <_3fg> the ubuntu installer?
[12:46] <stefg> CalusoXP: i'd go for / (root) ~ 5GB, /var 1,5 Gb and /home for the rest. Maybe some extra fat32 partition for sharing files with win, if present. have enough swap and read about tmpfs to get /tmp in virtual memeory
[12:46] <Kyral> If not just burn a copy of Knoppix
[12:46] <delight> i had a vga=option starting my compter with a fb @ 1600x1200x32 ... i had it from some suse 10.1 installation ;) ... now the new kernel updates killed my menu.lst ? can't find that anywhere on the net ...  anybody  knows about the right vga= option for such an hight resoution .. it was something with 8xx don't remember right thou
[12:46] <bobovski> or, even, is there a better dvd player available for ubuntu?
[12:46] <bobovski> (better than totem)
[12:46] <Kyral> and use QtParted
[12:46] <Kyral> Xine...VLC...Kaffiene....
[12:46] <Kyral> Codiene....
[12:46] <_3fg> VLC is my choice
[12:46] <delight> if important ... its an ati 9200 basicly ... in reality mobility fire gl 2
[12:46] <_3fg> Kyral: do I use the partitioner on the LiveCD?
[12:47] <delight> t2
[12:47] <foo> Is there a way to reset my user pass with ubuntu??
[12:47] <bobovski> 3fg: ok, apt-getting
[12:47] <Kyral> _3fg: if its GParted than its simple :P
[12:47] <CalusoXP> hey thx thats what i wanted to know :D
[12:47] <bobbyd> hi
[12:47] <bobbyd> does anyone here have a guide for setting up qmail on dapper?
[12:47] <_3fg> Kyral: sorry, that doesn't really help
[12:47] <CalusoXP> thank you stefg
[12:47] <Kyral> I mean (damnit I hate GUIs because its hard to give directions for the stupid things)
[12:47] <bobovski> _3fg: will I need to reboot or will it run straight from apt-get install?
[12:47] <Kyral> Ever use PartitionMagic?
[12:47] <Sleeping_Sloth> evening - got a repository question for you:
[12:48] <_3fg> bobovski: what?
[12:48] <_3fg> oh VLC?
[12:48] <_3fg> I dunno
[12:48] <Sleeping_Sloth> how do I prevent ubuntu asking for my ubuntu dvd every time I apt-get something?
[12:48] <dreamcatcher5172> samba is installed and so is smb something or other
[12:48] <Kyral> The only thing you have to reboot for is a kernel update
[12:48] <Kyral> Sleeping_Sloth: comment out the CD line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:48] <_3fg> Kyral: I haven't used partition magic
[12:49] <dreamcatcher5172> i also set up the config file but i wanna set it up to where there is no password needed to access my shared folders from a windows computer on the network
[12:49] <Kyral> _3fg: just fire it up and it should be somewhat obvious
[12:49] <_3fg> I know
[12:49] <_3fg> it looked obvious on the other computer
[12:49] <_3fg> I made 2 partitions
[12:49] <_3fg> one was ext3
[12:49] <_3fg> one was swap
[12:50] <_3fg> when I went to the next step, it said both were 0 kb
[12:50] <Kyral> Windows cannot play with ext3 :P
[12:50] <stefg> dreamcatcher5172: then you need to set up an account on the linux box withe the exact same credentials (username/password) like you win-account
[12:50] <Kyral> Didja commit the change
[12:50] <Sleeping_Sloth> kyral:  lol - idiot. thanks, I thought I already *had* done that.... but I was being a muppet. I'd reinstated an old sources.list which didnt have cd commented..
[12:50] <Kyral> GParted and QtParted don't make the changes instantly
[12:50] <_3fg> Kyral: the only thing I could do was hit next
[12:50] <_3fg> and it made the change
[12:50] <bobovski> _3fg: ok, how do I set up VLC to be the default player for dvds?
[12:51] <Kyral> I haven't used those two things in a long time
[12:51] <foo> Is there a way to reset my user pass with ubuntu??
[12:51] <Kyral> Whenever I repartition its a complete nuke of the HD
[12:51] <Kyral> !password
[12:51] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StrongPasswords
[12:51] <_3fg> Sorry bobovski, I haven't used it under Linux yet
[12:51] <dreamcatcher5172> so if a windows comp has username and password...thats what i have to set up?
[12:51] <bobovski> _3fg: no prob, thanks
[12:51] <_3fg> I used it on mac and  pc
[12:51] <dreamcatcher5172> instead of my own user account?
[12:52] <Kyral> _3fg: I dunno. I haven't used them in a LONG time
[12:52] <_3fg> ok
[12:53] <stefg> dreamcatcher5172: yes... if your win logon is 'foo' with password 'bar' have the same account 'foo' with password 'bar' on the samba server... man smbpasswd helps a lot :-)
[12:54] <trev__> i am getting very blurry video with totem comapred to WNP in XP, whats wrong
[12:54] <bobovski> totem sucks, I can't get it to work at all
[12:54] <bobovski> but, got VLC to work now :)
[12:54] <trev__> what should i use instead
[12:54] <bobovski> VLC is working well for me
[12:55] <stefg> gstreamer creates the vacuum.... but vlc is best anyway
[12:55] <trev__> if i installed my nvidea drivers they are active right
[12:55] <trev__> because that could casue it if they weren't
[12:55] <dreamcatcher5172> thanks
[12:56] <tuxtux> good night
[12:56] <abo> what is the best irc client for gnome?
[12:56] <bobovski> gaim
[12:56] <Darkprince> xchat is nice
[12:56] <Kyral> XChat
[12:56] <Kyral> or Irssi
[12:56] <Kyral> Gaim's IRC Client is a JOKE
[12:56] <Guest477> hiya all
[12:57] <trev__> use chatzilla
[12:57] <bobovski> works well enough for me...coming from mirc on windows
[12:57] <Guest477> konversation here
[12:57] <Guest477> :)
[12:57] <Kyral> Yah Konversation :P
[12:57] <Kyral> and stuff the "for GNOME" and "for KDE" terms :P
[12:57] <bobovski> christ, how does autorun work in ubuntu?
[12:57] <Guest477> ok so i wonder is anyone here farmilliar with www.homestead.com, it prohibits access to linux machines
[12:57] <bobovski> I want /dev/dvd to open with VLC now, not Totem
[12:58] <Guest477> wondering if there is a way to login
[12:58] <Kyral> How does it block access to Linux Machines?
[12:58] <Guest477> one moment
[12:59] <Guest477> You are using a computer that is not compatible with Homestead. To access the Homestead website, please return to www.homestead.com with a computer running:
[12:59] <Guest477>     * Windows 98, 2000, Me, NT, or XP.
[12:59] <Guest477>     * Mac OS X running Firefox 1.0 and above
[12:59] <Kyral> ...How does it CHECK that
[12:59] <Guest477> not sure
[12:59] <Guest477> at login time though
[12:59] <Guest477> i can browse their website
[12:59] <Guest477> it is a webpage hosting service
[01:00] <Guest477> i cannot login to my account
[01:00] <stefg> just accept they don't want you as a customer. go to a linux friendly webhoster :-)
[01:00] <Kyral> hehe they are bullshitting
[01:00] <Guest477> that is EXACTLY what i said :)
[01:01] <Kyral> "Java is different on OSX so you can't use it"
[01:01] <Kyral> Sounds like MS has a hand in this
[01:01] <trev__> i figured it out, i forgot to activate my drivers
[01:01] <Guest477> i am able to access many other sites, pogo and yahoo games, with no more than annoyance problems
[01:01] <Guest477> ty for your input u 2
[01:01] <Guest477> i agree with you
[01:02] <Guest477> they are not interested in service to consumers
[01:02] <Guest477> but to microshaft
[01:02] <Guest477> :)
[01:02] <Kyral> Ironic considering how the web practically runs on *Nix
[01:02] <trev__> how do i tell which video card driver you have running?
[01:03] <abou> !restrictedformats
[01:03] <trev__> I
[01:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:03] <bobovski> thanks for the input, all
[01:04] <foo> If I want to set up openvpn on ubuntu, I need to build from source right? I don't see it in apt anyways.
[01:05] <theturtlemoves> um, i just installed kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop from aptitude so that i can try them out and it's asking me to configure postfix
[01:05] <sysdoc> Anyone have a url for qmail security?
[01:05] <noneee> hello, I've downloaded php-gtk2 beta soruces... when I run make it gives me an error because gcc can't find /usr/lib/libXrender.la
[01:05] <abou> what's the difference between: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) and Kubuntu 6.06?
[01:05] <theturtlemoves> do i need to pick a configuration? i use evolution right now to get my mail from gmail and a campus exchange server
[01:05] <noneee> libXrender is not present in the libxrender-dev package...
[01:05] <stefg> noneee: all *-dev packs installed?
[01:06] <ChrisC_> The software update app is crashing my system ... when I click on the linux-kernel item to see what the changes are, it hangs and then crashes.  Anyone else seeing this?
[01:06] <sysdoc> abou, kubuntu runs the KDE desktop manager
[01:06] <noneee> stefg not all the *-dev packages
[01:06] <noneee> but I have all I need
[01:07] <patrick_king> !samba
[01:07] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:07] <spackle> !PXE
[01:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about PXE - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:07] <theturtlemoves> !postfix
[01:07] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[01:07] <mlehrer_> pxe rocks
[01:07] <theturtlemoves> neat
[01:07] <skane> Does a xubuntu live cd for 6.06 exist? I can only find desktop and alternate.
[01:07] <noneee> I just miss the file libXrender.la but I can say that in libxrender-dev_<IP_ADDRESS>-4_i386.deb the file is present
[01:08] <noneee> that's the debian package
[01:08] <Guest477> hey thanks ubuto
[01:09] <stefg> noneee: imho you need at least the libx11-dev
[01:09] <Guest477> xubuntu and the variants all have separate download pages
[01:09] <RedGhost> installing 6.06
[01:09] <Guest477> all CD images are live
[01:09] <RedGhost> having used linux in ages o:
[01:10] <stefg> Guest477: (tongue-in-cheek) ubotu is the channel bot... he doesn't notice thankyous
[01:10] <noneee> stefg I have just installed libx11-dev... still have the same problem
[01:10] <Guest477> ok thanks lol
[01:11] <skane> Guest677, you are telling me I can burn a Xubuntu 6.06 desktop CD and start a Xubuntu live system from it, cool?
[01:11] <skane> i mean Guest477 , not 677
[01:11] <Guest477> yes i have xubuntu desktop cd, skane, and it is live
[01:11] <Guest477> would you like a link?
[01:12] <skane> i downloaded it already thanks... i will burn it now
[01:12] <skane> :-)
[01:12] <Guest477> great, good luck with it :)
[01:15] <byteshack> hmmm... why does automatix have gnucash? That's on the main repository?
[01:15] <Fracture> my dapper installation has recently become quite unstable, freezing every 8 or so hours.  Is there any way to force a reinstall of the installed debs ?
[01:15] <Fracture> I am thinking that there is a crary somewhere
[01:15] <Fracture> s/crary/corrupt
[01:16] <n3rdism> !nvidia
[01:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:18] <shiv> I can't get rid of the multiple floppy drive icons in the Computer. Plz help :(
[01:18] <stefg> Fracture: shame on you for windows-think :-O
[01:18] <Fracture> stefg: I don't get you ?
[01:18] <bobbyd> Fracture, check the syslog
[01:19] <Fracture> bobbyd: for what ?
[01:19] <stefg> Oh, i have a problem... hmmm, i'm going to reinstall, that'll fix it (that's a win attitude)
[01:19] <bobbyd> Fracture, clues as to why it's freezing? sounds like a hardware problem to me, it's probably overheating
[01:19] <olrrai> how can I launck any X program as root?
[01:19] <Fracture> could be overheating
[01:19] <olrrai> how can I launch any X program as root?
[01:20] <Ninja> when i create a shared folder and open it on a windows machine a username and password box comes up if i dont have a user name and pass set what shuld the defualt name be
[01:20] <bobbyd> olrrai, sudo program
[01:20] <tjb891> ok, im a newb but how do you edit a file without the xserver, i need to edit /ect/X11/xorg.conf
[01:20] <Darkprince> use vi
[01:20] <olrrai> thanks
[01:20] <Fracture> stefg: well.. since I haven't changed the configuration in the last few weeks, and the only thing that has happend is reboots after freezing, I presumed that a file system corruption caused a library to fail
[01:20] <bobbyd> Ninja, the username and pass for your user?
[01:20] <Darkprince> vi /ect/Xll/xorg.conf
[01:20] <n3rdism> Ubuntu; i love you. :O
[01:20] <Ninja> bobbyd, ill try
[01:20] <tjb891> ok, thx
[01:21] <tjb891> and how do i save it after i edit it
[01:21] <Darkprince> :w!
[01:21] <stefg> Fracture: that's what fsck is for
[01:21] <Darkprince> and :q! to quit after you save
[01:21] <tjb891> thx
[01:21] <Fracture> stefg: but surely fsck can't fix every issue ?
[01:21] <n3rdism> darkprince: stop making faces at the vim newbs :O
[01:22] <Darkprince> lol
[01:22] <n3rdism> XD
[01:22] <stefg> if it's fs related : yes it can.. there's a couple of options... man fsck will tell
[01:22] <Ninja> when i create a shared folder and open it on a windows machine a username and password box comes up if i dont have a user name and pass set what shuld the defualt name bewhen i create a shared folder and open it on a windows machine a username and password box comes up if i dont have a user name and pass set what shuld the defualt name be
[01:22] <philipacamaniac> is anyone here experienced in making debian packages?
[01:22] <Fracture> bobbyd:   before the freeze there is this Jul 19 09:11:48 localhost kernel: [17189402.436000]  kernel BUG at mm/rmap.c:486!
[01:22] <guiwill> hi
[01:23] <Fracture> invalid operand: 0000 [#1]
[01:23] <n3rdism> philip: you might wanna try a #debian for that
[01:23] <jrib> philipacamaniac: best to just ask your question
[01:23] <philipacamaniac> thanks
[01:23] <not_in_use_420> Is it possible to install Ubuntu from an iPod (through USB) with just the ISO, or does it HAVE to be burned to a CD?
[01:23] <not_in_use_420> Like, can you install the ISO onto another partition on the computer?
[01:23] <n3rdism> that would be sweet
[01:24] <philipacamaniac> I'm creating a binary debian package (no source), and I can't quite figure out how to get a menu item to show up.
[01:24] <not_in_use_420> Cuz...iPod just external hdd..
[01:24] <Ninja> whats the defualt user name and password for a shared folder
[01:24] <Darkprince> you would have to be able to boot your machine from the ipod
[01:24] <jvai> hey every1! here's a senario: i want to change an ooold Red Hat server to an Dapper 1, what do i save? & how? does "tar" or 'bzip" need to be involved?,
[01:24] <stefg> not_in_use_420: depends on wether the ipod is already recognized by the install system
[01:24] <not_in_use_420> Windows 98.
[01:24] <philipacamaniac> I've put desktop files in ./usr/share/applications, ./usr/share/applnk, and ./usr/share/gnome/apps
[01:24] <not_in_use_420> I'm scared of it, lol.
[01:25] <Darkprince> take your redhat server and just nuke it... install ubunu and then snap all your redhat CD's in half
[01:25] <stefg> not_in_use_420: that's irrelevant for an ubuntu install
[01:25] <Ninja> whats the defualt user name and password for a shared folder
[01:25] <Darkprince> did you try your current username and password?
[01:25] <not_in_use_420> Thing is...that this computer only has like 400mhz.
[01:26] <not_in_use_420> So, I am thinking that kubuntu .. will be what I am going to use.
[01:26] <stefg> not_in_use_420: be safe, do a good ol'fashioned install from CD
[01:26] <jrib> philipacamaniac: k, try #ubuntu-motu , I'm not familiar with setting up the menu
[01:26] <philipacamaniac> thanks
[01:27] <not_in_use_420> Yea... thats the way I usually do it. But I don't have access to a CD burner right now, and I have the ISO on my iPod. So... I was wondering if I could do anything with it.
[01:27] <not_in_use_420> Like, I know Daemon tools can emulate ISOs....or Alcohol 120.
[01:27] <MeGaQuArK> Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Firefox for Linux has a memory leak in it?
[01:27] <jvai> hey every1! here's a senario: i want to change an ooold Red Hat server to an Dapper 1, what do i save? & how? does "tar" or 'bzip" need to be involved?,
[01:27] <stefg> not_in_use_420: you need at least somthing to boot from
[01:28] <stefg> !netinstall
[01:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:28] <foo> I am getting this error from configure: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables... any ideas? hm
[01:28] <not_in_use_420> One last idea : What about VMware server? It installs it to... err ok I will look at those webpages real quick lol.
[01:28] <n3rdism> !brain
[01:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:28] <foo> ls
[01:29] <jvai> ubotu, i need u
[01:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about i need u - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:29] <jvai> lol
[01:29] <stefg> !build > foo
[01:29] <jvai> ok
[01:30] <abou> !start
[01:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about start - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:30] <stefg> !fishing
[01:30] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[01:31] <jvai> what settings are tranportible, form 1 distro to anothr?  as in config/networking, what files do i burn from the file manager/
[01:31] <Shak-> is it possible to run an existing Windows Install with VMware?
[01:32] <stefg> no
[01:32] <Shak-> ah hmm
[01:32] <stefg> different 'hardware'
[01:32] <Shak-> so if I install windows xp again through vmware, would I have to run firewalls/anti-virus inside that installation?
[01:33] <stefg> yup
[01:33] <Shak-> o_O
[01:33] <Shak-> how much space does a fresh windows xp sp2 install take up, approximately?
[01:33] <redcard> Shak-: A significant amount :)  I think it's up to one or two gig now
[01:33] <Shak-> i've only got 9GB free
[01:33] <stefg> forget about the firewall in wi , BTW
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Shak-: Why are you bringing Windows along at all?
[01:34] <stefg> *win
[01:34] <not_in_use_420> I think it's more like 3 or 4GB.
[01:34] <not_in_use_420> Can google it.
[01:34] <Shak-> Jack_Sparrow: well to avoid dual booting
[01:34] <jvai> ok.. if i'm upgrading from hoary to dapper, & i like my config, what files do i save? & how do i save them? is "tar" needed?
[01:34] <olrrai> how can I create a launcher of any X programm as root?
[01:34] <redcard> Shak-: It's not worth it, to be honest.
[01:34] <Shak-> oh, how come?
[01:34] <Shak-> too slow?
[01:34] <redcard> The time it takes you to reboot will be negated by the slowness of vmware
[01:34] <jvai> :/
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Shak-: IT will never run a Windows program as well as in WIndows alone.
[01:35] <redcard> Let's come at it another angle.  What program are you wanting to run?
[01:35] <Shak-> so lag is the main issue here then?
[01:35] <Darkprince> i tried running World of Warcraft with Cedega and it was unplayable
[01:35] <Darkprince> i may not have had it set up right though
[01:35] <Shak-> lol im not gonna be playing robust 3d games lol
[01:35] <Jeruvy> Shak-: not lag, latency, disk latency, cpu latency, etc..
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Shak-: To run games you have a better option, to run apps you have another..
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> LEt me rephrase that
[01:36] <stefg> Shak-: no 3D in vmware
[01:36] <Shak-> im only gonna be popping up a couple of applications, some debugging
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks
[01:36] <Shak-> if I can move my mouse around and click, have a couple applications running at once then im fine
[01:37] <redcard> Shak: But what applications are you going to be running?
[01:37] <Shak-> but if the mouse is gonna drag along, ages to open a simple folder, then no it wouldnt work out
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> You still have not said WHICH apps
[01:37] <fogos> hi, if i have a cable internet connection no-ip could work?
[01:37] <Shak-> Im sure I'll be running a bunch of developer apps, Photoshop,  Swish
[01:37] <redcard> Shak-: I would not advise Photoshop.
[01:38] <redcard> Not through vmware
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> shak, not worth your time
[01:38] <hawkaloogie> Shak-, use Gimp and Inkscape
[01:38] <olrrai> gksu krusader --user=roo
[01:38] <Shak-> hmm
[01:38] <terror> Hola
[01:38] <x_or> Are postgres configuration files installed on every ubuntu system by default?  I deleted everything in /var/lib/postgres and now cannot figure out to reinstall the default configuration files.  Any clues?  "apt-get --reinstall install postgresql-7.4" does not do the trick.
[01:38] <ballpointcarrot> x_or: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postgresql-7.4?  try that.
[01:38] <Shak-> but I still havent pinpointed what exactly the issue is?
[01:39] <stefg> speed and memory
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> THey will run like sh!!
[01:39] <redcard> The issue is that vmware is a virtual machine.
[01:39] <x_or> ballpointcarrot:  No, that doesn't restore them.  Thanks though.
[01:39] <Darkprince> honestly i think you're just better off to boot into windows
[01:39] <Shak-> hmm
[01:40] <redcard> It's going to create a computer in memory inside your computer.   Applications like Photoshop are dependant on memory and graphics, both things that virtualized machines lack power on
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> I really like digikam but no one seems to use it..
[01:40] <Darkprince> --at least if you're playing games... for programming or debugging i'm not sure
[01:40] <stefg> did anyone get Photoshop to work with wine?
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> NOt here
[01:40] <Darkprince> i'm assuming you guys are dual-booting?
[01:40] <Redman276> im having a  problem with the  ati fix
[01:40] <Shak-> Darkprince: I am at least
[01:41] <ballpointcarrot> Redman276: let's hear it.
[01:41] <Darkprince> yeah redman... i'm working on that as well
[01:41] <lasindi_lcps> Hi all, is there a way to get ping to print out something when the request times out? (i.e. instead of just printing out information at the end)
[01:41] <Redman276> did u try the fix i nthe fourm ?
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Dual boot here... XP is for games only on this box
[01:41] <Shak-> redcard: so what kind of applications do people run on vmware?
[01:41] <ballpointcarrot> what's the problem?
[01:41] <Redman276> and still get that annoying  api  problem
[01:41] <lg8> not sure
[01:42] <Darkprince> i'm looking at my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[01:42] <jayrod> lasindi_lcps: ping -v ]
[01:42] <Darkprince> ...just not sure what to edit
[01:42] <ballpointcarrot> Redman, Darkprince: waht issues are you having?
[01:42] <redcard> Shak-: Honestly?  I don't use it much for other than testing at work, where I write Windows programs
[01:42] <jayrod> er
[01:42] <jayrod> lasindi_lcps: ping -v will do the trick
[01:42] <Redman276> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033
[01:42] <Shak-> redcard: say I wanted to run mIRC as i've got alot of scripts in my remotes, modules that work only on that?
[01:42] <Darkprince> i just installed ubuntu fresh, so i'm having a few
[01:42] <Redman276> after  replacing the  lib  file and reruning the  info command i get the same error
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> I just installed RealBasic to see if some of my old tools will port over..
[01:42] <Redman276> i have an ati 8500
[01:43] <Darkprince> first: my screen is off-center but if i adjust the monitor then it is off-center when i boot into windows
[01:43] <Lord_Athur> I've got a doubt, how do i earn karma?
[01:43] <redcard> MIRC is Wine Platinum.
[01:43] <Redman276> Darkprince thats a non solvable  error
[01:43] <billfur> whats a computer chess program *FOR beginners trying to learn* ( as opposed to gnuchess which is guarenteed to kill you)
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkprince: agreed
[01:43] <Darkprince> =(
[01:43] <redcard> You might be better off runing it through Wine.
[01:43] <Redman276> either  one  os is centered   and the other is off
[01:43] <Shak-> Wine supports .mrc scripts?
[01:43] <Redman276> been that way for me for te  last  10 yrs and    4  diff distros
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkprince: My monitor is one touch auto center,
[01:43] <Darkprince> my friend somehow managed to center them both the other day when i was running FC4 instead of ubuntu
[01:44] <Darkprince> ...though he doesn't know how
[01:44] <saiko> Lord_Athur: fortune
[01:44] <redcard> Shak-: Seems to be for the most part.
[01:44] <Redman276> try   settign ur screen  attributes in   ubuntu
[01:44] <Lord_Athur> saiko, nothing else? hahaha
[01:44] <Redman276> its  X,Y offsets
[01:44] <jvai> hey all help
[01:44] <redcard> Though, I would suggest dropping mirc and figuring things out inside ubuntu to replace what MIRC offers you
[01:44] <jvai> ok.. if i'm upgrading from hoary to dapper, & i like my config, what files do i save? & how do i save them? is "tar" needed?
[01:44] <saiko> Lord_Athur: ;)
[01:44] <Redman276> i live with a 1/16" black bar  in windows
[01:45] <Redman276> ;)
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Dosent KVirc use the same scripting language?
[01:45] <kbrooks> jvai: no
[01:45] <kbrooks> jvai: you cant hoary -> dapper in one go
[01:45] <Darkprince> so i should just get used to the offset in linux?
[01:45] <Redman276> yepper
[01:45] <kbrooks> jvai: you must hoary -> breezy -> dapper
[01:45] <Darkprince> i've had ubuntu installed for all of an hour
[01:46] <Darkprince> and it's 1000% times better than fedora already
[01:46] <jvai> noo, i mean my config setting, like networking/ stuff like that
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jvai: Fresh install would be the best..
[01:46] <ballpointcarrot> glad you think so Darkprince
[01:46] <Redman276> but  my  libGL.so.1.2  issue  is not resolving  easily
[01:46] <Shak-> redcard: wait, how exactly does Wine work and what can I run through it?
[01:46] <jvai> oooo
[01:46] <redcard> Shak-: Lemme point you here: www.winehq.com
[01:46] <Darkprince> ok, my next problem involves xine media player
[01:46] <jvai> hey every1! here's a senario: i want to change an ooold Red Hat server to an Dapper 1, what do i save? & how? does "tar" or 'bzip" need to be involved?,
[01:46] <jvai> that was the original question
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkprince: CHeck out the scripting in KVirc, I seem to remember they were similar, but I have not used Mirc in years
[01:47] <advant> I tried installing glib 2.12.0, but when I run configure for another app it says pkg-config returns 2.12.0, but GLIB is returning 2.10.3, how can I sync it all up to 2.12.0 ?
[01:47] <x_or> Anyone know how to restore the postgres configuration files in /var/lib/postgresql?  I accidentally deleted them.
[01:47] <kbrooks> x_or: do u have a recent backup
[01:47] <jvai> my company has an oold red hat servr for our website
[01:47] <x_or> kbrooks:  No.
[01:47] <RadiantFire> x_or: do you know what the postgresql package is
[01:47] <Darkprince> says i'm missing an audio codec for MPEG's ... also, i can't play fraps videos
[01:47] <RadiantFire> you can use sudo dpkg-reconfigure on the package name
[01:47] <jvai> i want to help, by introducing dapper
[01:47] <RadiantFire> it will restore defauolt config
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> jvai: You want to save your redhat configuration for use in Ubuntu?
[01:47] <Shak-> redcard: interesting, how well do applications run in Wine?
[01:47] <jvai> yes!
[01:48] <redcard> Shak-: That's varied :) Check out the AppDB under the Support thing on the right
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[01:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:48] <Redman276> anyone  had  problems with replacing  libGL.so.1.2  then getting it to work ?
[01:48] <jvai> but the server is using an older version of gnome
[01:48] <x_or> RadiantFire:  dpkg -l | grep postgres shows three packages:  postgresql-7.4,  postgresql-client-7.4, postgresql-common
[01:48] <Shak-> well, Diablo II Demo is at the top of the list, so thats a start
[01:48] <kbrooks> jvai: what version?
[01:48] <jvai> & it's not under support from rh
[01:48] <ucordes> does anybody know a good irc client with DCC support?
[01:48] <redcard> Shak-: My turn for a question. :)  How long have you been in Linux/Ubuntu?
[01:48] <RadiantFire> x_or: you probably want the postgresql-7.4
[01:48] <x_or> RadiantFire:  I have deinstalled all three of these, deleted the postgres user using userdel -r postgres.
[01:48] <ballpointcarrot> Redman: are you using the libGL.so.1.2 provided in the thread?
[01:48] <Redman276> yes
[01:48] <Redman276> and  i still get the same  errors
[01:48] <Shak-> haha, 2 days? :)
[01:48] <jvai> i dunno, i couldnt find it
[01:49] <Shak-> but I have used linux before, via a shell prompt though
[01:49] <Shak-> never had GNOME
[01:49] <redcard> Cool.
[01:49] <x_or> RadiantFire:  The problem is that no matter what I do, it will not install the configuration files.  I can install the packages without issue.  But, the configuration files are nowhere to be found.
[01:49] <redcard> Gonna suggest two books for ya.
[01:49] <jvai> oo gnome 2.0  is all it said, what ver. of rh is that?
[01:49] <RadiantFire> x_or: use dpkg-reconfigure on the packages
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> ucordes:  did you look at kvirc?
[01:49] <jersymike2> hello could someone help me with knoppix live cd?
[01:49] <david__> hi, i am trying to play a dvd on my movie player, but i get an error when i try to load it... error is: "No URI handler implemented for "dvd"."
[01:49] <redcard> Ubuntu Hacks, by O Reiley and Assoc.  And the next one isn't out yet, but it's The Ubuntu Book.
[01:49] <Shak-> cool I'll look into that
[01:50] <ucordes> jack_Sparrow: i will check it out
[01:50] <Shak-> right now im gonna get Wine, it looks just like what I need, thanks redcard!
[01:50] <redcard> Shak-: No problem :)
[01:50] <x_or> RadiantFire:  I reconfigured all of those packages, still nothing in /var/lib/postgresql
[01:50] <jvai> we couldnt even make firefox work on it, & it has the old mozilla browser on it
[01:50] <Redman276> is ther an earlier   or  diff   libGL.so.1.2 i should be using for an 8500 card   than the  one on the  thread ?
[01:51] <RadiantFire> x_or: trying apt-get --purge remove the packages and then installing agian
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !tell Jack_Sparrow about ati
[01:51] <x_or> RadiantFire:  Yeah, I tried even that.  I am stumped.
[01:51] <jvai> i may just need the some config files & network settings saved, but which 1?
[01:52] <erlen1> Hi there, is it possible watching videos that are stored on a windows machine on ubuntu linux? Any help is much appriciated :)
[01:52] <stefg> !codecs
[01:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:52] <advant> Anyone know how to install a new glib version over the dapper installed 2.10.3 ?
[01:52] <jvai> i heard that /home, /var/ & /etc can be tranfered from distro to distro, is that true?
[01:53] <stefg> in theory
[01:53] <RadiantFire> jvai: home can, I'm not sure about /etc and /var
[01:53] <jvai> oo ok
[01:53] <jersymike2> hello could someone help me with setting a portable hdd as a normal hdd with the knoppix live cd?
[01:53] <RadiantFire> the /etc/ and /var are sometimes distro specific
[01:53] <stefg> if it's LSB compliant distros
[01:53] <Redman276> is ther a diff libGL.so.1.2 that i should use for a radeon 8500  than the one listed in the thread for fix ?
[01:53] <jvai> would /home have the website config & network settings in the old red hat install
[01:53] <ballpointcarrot> jvai: /etc and /var copying might run you into trouble with program versions.
[01:54] <jvai> ok
[01:54] <stefg> but i'd rather leave /etc/init.d as setup by the installer :-)
[01:54] <jvai> oo
[01:55] <Redman276> !ati
[01:55] <jvai> red hat is a funny beast
[01:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:55] <erlen1> Is it possible watching videos that are stored on a windows machine _over the network_? Any help is much appriciated :)
[01:55] <Indigo423> hi everybody
[01:55] <Indigo423> has anybody some experience with ubuntu 6.06 LTS server and VM-Ware Server 1.0 Final?
[01:56] <stefg> jvai: things changed a lot... don't expect anything to work in practice. you might find it usefull to have the old files as a reference, but in general it's a fresh install
[01:56] <Flannel> erlen1: like, streaming video?  You could watch it via samba (or any other file sharing sort of thing) just as a regular file
[01:56] <erlen1> i didnt get that to work
[01:56] <jvai> i was thinking the same... we talked of doing that with a fresh box @ stefg
[01:56] <erlen1> didnt open in VLC until i moved the movie over to my PC
[01:57] <erlen1> or Totem for that sake
[01:57] <AndyCooll_> Indigo423: yeah, what do you want to know?
[01:57] <jvai> i'm afraid of dependencies/library problems
[01:58] <linuxgoober> can i add all the sources from http://www.apt-get.org/main/ to my sources list?
[01:58] <Indigo423> did you know how many memory can ubuntu have?
[01:58] <kbrooks> jvai: there is really no dependency hell in ubuntu, except fr upgrades
[01:58] <stefg> Indigo423: up to 64GB with big-iron kernel
[01:58] <kbrooks> linuxgoober: don't
[01:58] <RadiantFire> Indigo423: can you clearify what memory you mean
[01:59] <RadiantFire> Indigo423: technical a stock kernel should be able toa ddress 4GB
[01:59] <Indigo423> 64GB of RAM ??
[01:59] <Indigo423> wow
[01:59] <linuxgoober> kbrooks why?
[01:59] <jvai> ok, fresh install of dapper in new box,  copy the network/website config from the old red hat box, work from there
[01:59] <ballpointcarrot> linuxgoober: theoretically, it's possible, but i would highly recommend against it.  You _will_ end up breaking many things.
[01:59] <linuxgoober> ok
[01:59] <abou> !mplayer
[01:59] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Try " sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts " ( multiverse must be enabled see !repos ).
[01:59] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[01:59] <kbrooks> linuxgoober: they have packages *made for* debian
[01:59] <jvai> it's the only safe/painless solution i see
[01:59] <linuxgoober> any full list for *buntu?
[02:00] <Indigo423> is the big-iron kernel an 64bit kernel ??
[02:00] <abou> how can i install a plugin in firefox to play movies?
[02:00] <AndyCooll_> Indigo423: The amount of memory you select should be based on how much memory your box has. My box has 1024, so I usually select half of that
[02:00] <kbrooks> linuxgoober: doubt thher is a hub
[02:00] <linuxgoober> k
[02:00] <x_or> RadiantFire:  If I run:   "apt-get remove postgresql-7.4" it says "Package postgresql-7.4 is not installed, so not removed"  Yet, if I run "dpkg -l | grep postgres" I see "pc  postgresql-7.4                        7.4.8-17ubuntu1.3                  object-relational SQL database, version 7.4"  Does this indicate something is wrong?
[02:00] <kbrooks> linuxgoober: hub = link of links
[02:01] <RadiantFire> x_or: did you attempt to remove postresql-common?
[02:01] <x_or> Yes, I think so.
[02:02] <regress> if my hd has "Linux LVM" as the system type, how can I mount it?
[02:02] <Indigo423> i would like install an vm-ware server based on an ubuntu server, one of my first questions was, can ubuntu address more than 4 GB RAM with an 32 bit kernel.
[02:02] <kbrooks> regress: use /dev/mapper
[02:02] <regress> is there a man page for that?
[02:02] <juanca7777_> hi everyone
[02:03] <Indigo423> i have seen some problems with m$ os, and i must first activate PAE support and some other dirty things to address more then 4 GB RAM
[02:03] <kbrooks> regress: No.  It is a directory of LVM devices which you can mount
[02:03] <Indigo423> ;)
[02:03] <juanca7777_> i am looking for the pkginfo and pkgtrans packages, but i don't see them anywhere
[02:03] <stefg> Indigo423: yes, but not with the stock-kernel... you'll have to recompile
[02:03] <x_or> RadiantFire:  Yes, I think so.
[02:03] <regress> so mount /dev/myHDwithLVM /dev/mapper?
[02:03] <jvai> ok ppl thank u for the info, it's bout 2 rain, & this starbucks is too far a walk from home
[02:03] <Redman276> when i run fglrxinfo , i get a  list of  [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for SelectTextureSGIS
[02:03] <kbrooks> regress: No. I said *directory*
[02:04] <ballpointcarrot> regress: i think it's mount /dev/mapper/(insert drive here)
[02:04] <regress> ah
[02:04] <kbrooks> regress: no... it doesnt have directories under there
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Redman276: is that an onboard video card or plug in card?
[02:04] <Redman276> ive  copied the libGL.so.1.2  from the  fourms   for the fix ,  but still get the error   any ideas ?
[02:04] <stefg> !info linux-image-server
[02:04] <ubotu> linux-image-server: Linux kernel image on Server Equipment.. In repository main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:04] <Redman276> plug in
[02:04] <kbrooks> regress: also, specify a mount point
[02:04] <Redman276> radeon 8500  128mb
[02:05] <regress> kbrooks: could you give me an example command?
[02:05] <kbrooks> mount /dev/... /path/to/place/where/you/want/it/mounted
[02:05] <Redman276> agp card
[02:05] <Redman276> non onboard
[02:05] <clarity_> hey... during ubuntu's install can you specify to install a smp kernel
[02:05] <kbrooks> regress: I can't...
[02:05] <regress> in this case is hdc2
[02:05] <crimsun> clarity_: 686 is smp by default.
[02:05] <kbrooks> regress: i dont have a LVM device
[02:05] <clarity_> beautiful
[02:05] <erlen1> Ok, so i wind my way to the file via samba in the windows network, but none of my movie players is able to play the movie via the network, anyone knows what might be wring? the file works when i manually move it to this computer. In the movie players it just says "Playing 0:00"
[02:05] <regress> I was using "sudo mount /dev/hdc2 /media/hdd"
[02:06] <juanca7777_> anyone knows where i can find the 'pkginfo' and 'pkgtrans' packages, in order to use alien to convert a solaris .pkg to a .deb file?
[02:06] <sysdoc> Any qmail guru's in here?
[02:06] <Indigo423> stefg: the stock-kernel is default in the linux images, which i can download with apt ?
[02:06] <david__> is it possible to play a dvd on ubuntu? i tried and got an error... i wanted to load it and put it onto my site, its online a small amount of video
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd
[02:06] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:06] <regress> ah, I see it's pretty different in the mapper folder
[02:06] <regress> I'll google around, thanks
[02:07] <jrinco11> hey ya'll, i'm quite new to this mirc, but i'm lookin for help on my ubuntu installation on an older laptop of mine
[02:07] <jrinco11> i was wondering if someone could help me out
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Just ask your question
[02:07] <david__> !dvd?
[02:07] <Redman276> any idea  Jack ?
[02:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about dvd? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:07] <stefg> Indigo423: ubuntu installs with a 386 (non arch-optimized) kernel. But after installation you've got a wealth of different kernels for different scenarios to choose from
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Redman276: Did you go to the ATI site, that install looks pretty straight forward
[02:08] <jrinco11> so i have an old acer travelmate 340, and it doesn't have an optical drive nor can it boot from cd (so no external cd option) -- so waht I did was put hte laptop hdd in a different laptop, and started the installation to the point where it copies the live cd to hdd and asks to restart to do installation
[02:08] <Redman276> yepper  been reading  their forums  for about  45 min
[02:08] <spackle> How does a PXE netboot install know what to use for initial repositories?
[02:08] <Redman276> no luck
[02:08] <Redman276> they  quote the  ubuntuforum fix about 75 times
[02:08] <jrinco11> then i swapped the hdd back into the travel mate, and i'm getting an xorg erro rwhen starting startx, "(ee) no deviced detected"
[02:08] <jrinco11> xorg.conf*
[02:08] <Redman276> ive  done that   but  still same error
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> I have an ati8500 here in one of these, didnt need to do anything special.
[02:09] <Redman276> hmmmm
[02:09] <Redman276> i tried to get  my  GL  going
[02:09] <jrinco11> is there a way i can edit the xorg.conf and get it to detect my display?  any idea what I need to do?
[02:09] <Redman276> my rigional problem was   pc freezing  when  either  screen saver  or   any  3d rendered  was   started
[02:09] <jrinco11> (or perhaps a different way to install w/no cd/usb support?)
[02:10] <stochastic_flux> jrincoll: this is most likely because the video card in the first laptop differs from that in the second you will need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to load the right driver
[02:10] <Redman276> so i did the  fix for that and had   like  " ok "  tabs with  diagonal  lines through it
[02:10] <Indigo423> stefg: ah ok then i can install some kernels like -server or -bigiron kernels.
[02:10] <stefg> exactly
[02:10] <Redman276> i followed the ati howto in the wikki and now  3/4 of  my  apps  died cause of this pai error
[02:10] <jrinco11> stochastic_flux:  do you know how i can go about getting the right driver?
[02:10] <Redman276> api^
[02:10] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: i thought that the kernel wouldnt boot in edgy?  works fine here
[02:11] <jackfrost> grrr....having a hell of a time with my 4306 broadcomm card
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Redman276: I used the ATI site and diddnt try the wiki
[02:11] <stochastic_flux> jrincoll:  do you know what kind of video card the laptop has?
[02:11] <regress> ah man
[02:11] <juanca7777_> anyone knows where i can find the 'pkginfo' and 'pkgtrans' packages, in order to use alien to convert a solaris .pkg to a .deb file?
[02:11] <Redman276> so i did the  libGL  fix  in the forum for this specific  error and its still happening
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jackfrost: Broadcom are not very linux friendly, you'll end up using ndiswrapper
[02:12] <jrinco11> stochastic_flux:  mmm, no i don't
[02:12] <regress> if I moved a LVM disk to another computer without exporting the /etc/lvmconf, is my data hosed?
[02:12] <Redman276> ok ill go back to ATI and try again
[02:12] <jrinco11> lemme see if i can google it
[02:12] <stochastic_flux> what kind of laptop is it, make & model
[02:12] <spackle> My PXE install is throwing errors at the point where it picks package source - not sure how to proceed.
[02:12] <jrinco11> acer travelmate 340
[02:12] <jackfrost> Jack: I tried ndiswrapper, no luck. Now I've been trying Fw-cutter, I've gotten the farthest with this method
[02:12] <Indigo423> stefg: did you know some good urls, who i can find some technical specifications from the different kernels?
[02:12] <regress> where can
[02:12] <jackfrost> With FW-cutter I've at least got the light to come on in my laptop
[02:13] <regress> where can I talk with someone about lvm?
[02:13] <jackfrost> that's as close as I've got
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jrinco11: WHat processor and how much memory in that lappy?  THose were pretty slow
[02:13] <advant> How do I need to isntall glib 2.12.0 so it replaces 2.10.3
[02:13] <redcard> Oh.. does anyone know a way to rip a DVD down to MPEG, for vcdimager?
[02:14] <jrinco11> jack_sparrow:  i believe it's a p2? 450mhz?
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> jrinco11:  how much ram..?
[02:14] <jackfrost> I kept getting bcmwl5 Failed errors
[02:14] <jrinco11> p3, 450mhz, 198mb ram i think
[02:14] <Guest136> hi
[02:15] <jackfrost> So now I've got the light to come on when I open the Network GUI, but I can't actually get it to work.
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> jrinco11: You may be disappointed with the performance of that unit and Ubuntu
[02:15] <skavenge> jackfrost: are you sure you didnt need bcmwl5a? did you check the ndiswrapper for insturctions? .. my bcm43xx based card is running ndiswrapper with the bcmwl5a
[02:15] <stefg> Indigo423: that's normally stated in synaptic, or whatever frontend to apt you use
[02:15] <shifty> hola alguien q hable espaol
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[02:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:15] <stefg> !es
[02:16] <shifty> hola
[02:16] <profoX`> anyone here have experience with istanbul? does it record in high FPS? does it use alot of CPU to process/encode, or does it only process after recording?
[02:16] <jrinco11> jack_sparrow:  do you a suggestion of a better linux distro for my system?  (it's an old laptop i found in my closet, just wanna use it for basic web/word processing -- nothing more)
[02:16] <Indigo423> stefg: thx i will try it. you`re great help. nice evening.
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> HAble engles por favor
[02:16] <shifty> como todos empienzan soy nuevo en esto estoy buscando informacion para poder usar el ubuntu
[02:16] <shifty> alguien me puede dar una mano con eso ?
[02:16] <jrib> !es
[02:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> There are some less demanding distros...
[02:16] <Ubuntu-fr581> hi everybody, does someone has xgl/compiz installed with dapper ?
[02:17] <jackfrost> skavenge: bcmwl5a, where can I find that?
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> shifty:  / join #ubuntu-es
[02:17] <Guest136> Can anyone help me out with the 3c59x network module and wake on lan?  I had it working in kernel 2.4 under Debian, but it doesn't work in Ubuntu.
[02:17] <stochastic_flux> jrincoll: i would suspect that you would have to find the line Driver "something" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf under the Device section and replace "something" with "i810"
[02:19] <abou> after downloading and install all  what I was told to in the restrictedformats files and  w32codecs I have some of the wmv file where I can only hear the sound, no image, any ideas?
[02:19] <skavenge> jackfrost: on the ndiswrapper homepage .. from what i see thats what you need, for a 4306 chipset you need 5l and 5la in the install dir along with the .sys but only 5la gets installed with ndiswrapper
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> abou: any errors when you did the section on w32codecs
[02:20] <Kirk> Hello
[02:20] <jackfrost> cool, thanks skavenge!
[02:20] <jrinco11> new to linux also....how ould i go about editing that file?
[02:20] <jrinco11> vi?
[02:21] <shinobi2> what do you guy use for file managing? how do i install mc?
[02:21] <awe6> Where does rc.local belong so it's executed on boot?
[02:21] <Chetic> what's the best application for burning data to a DVD-RW?
[02:21] <Chetic> I want to see if my new dvd burner works..
[02:21] <stochastic_flux> jrincoll: yes, "sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and enter your password when prompted
[02:21] <skavenge> k3b, i think gnomebaker does it too
[02:22] <ballpointcarrot> groisofs, k3b if you're not into CLI
[02:22] <ballpointcarrot> growisofs
[02:22] <erlen1> What do i need to do to be able to watch media files from a windows machine directly via network?
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> k3b rocks
[02:22] <erlen1> without having to stream them
[02:22] <Chetic> k3b is K-ware...
[02:22] <computer13137> I am a noob to Ubuntu, and I need a bit of a walkthrough, or someone to login to SSH and do something for me.  I have a WiFi card, with a Windows driver.  In FreeBSD, it was possible to compile it using NDISWrapper.  Is there an NDISWrapper for Ubuntu, and can anyone help me use it to compile a driver?  Thanks!
[02:22] <computer13137> If someone can help, PM me please.
[02:23] <skavenge> Chetic: its still installable under gnome and works fine
[02:23] <Chetic> yeah you're right
[02:23] <Chetic> doing so now
[02:23] <computer13137> brb
[02:23] <skavenge> it just installed the libs it needs, but yeah its going to be a bigger install because of it
[02:23] <Ubuntu-fr581> has someone installed xgl/compiz ?
[02:24] <Guest136> Can anyone help me out with the 3c59x network module and wake on lan?  I had it working in kernel 2.4 under Debian, but it doesn't work in Ubuntu.
[02:24] <abou> Jack_Sparrow, no
[02:24] <abou> Jack_Sparrow, no errors when installing the codecs
[02:24] <spackle> Guest136 - is it being recognized?
[02:24] <Guest136> spackle: yes, it works fine otherwise
[02:24] <spackle> Guest136 - if you do dmesg | more do you see it listed?
[02:24] <Redman276> well that didnt work
[02:25] <ballpointcarrot> Ubuntu-fr581: I have
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> abou:  what program ar eyou using to play what type of video files?
[02:25] <Guest136> spackle: yes, but i don't have the output here
[02:25] <spackle> Guest136 - Wake on LAN - that's more of a hardware issue isn't it?
[02:26] <spackle> Guest136 - is WOL enabled in the Bios?
[02:26] <Guest136> spackle: it is a 3com 905b network adapter.  well for wake on lan it has to be enabled in the bios as well as in a module option, but for kernel 2.6 it just doesn't work
[02:26] <abou> Jack_Sparrow, totem, file wmv (some are working, some used to work in previous installs, not now !) I must have missed something...
[02:26] <spackle> Guest136 - maybe just not in the kernel you are using?
[02:27] <Guest136> spackle: the hardware is set up correctly.  for Ubuntu i edited the /etc/modprobe.d/ files instead of the /etc/modutils/ files
[02:27] <Guest136> so i'm not sure what is the problem :(
[02:27] <arooni> what do i need to apt-get install to play back .mov files
[02:27] <spackle> Guest136 - can you tell if the module is loaded? (lsmod)
[02:28] <ChrisC_> Hello ... The software update app is crashing my system ... when I click on the linux-kernel item to see what the changes are, it hangs and then crashes.  Anyone else seeing this?
[02:28] <Guest136> spackle: yes it was loaded
[02:29] <spackle> Guest136 - I wonder if the 3com driver lacks support?
[02:29] <qkslvrwolf> how does one keep something in init.d from starting at startup?
[02:29] <test> hi is there anyway to change the mime icons in gnome?
[02:30] <jrinco11> jacksparrow:  i changed it to i810 and it still shows "no screens found" --- i think it may be that when i started the install on the other laptop, it detected the display at "PCI:1:5:0" and i'm assuming it's idfferent on this laptop
[02:30] <jrinco11> anyway to 'find' where the display is on this laptop?
[02:30] <Guest136> spackle: unless it dropped support from the kernel 2.4 -> 2.6 change, i dunno
[02:30] <bimberi> qkslvrwolf: sudo update-rc.d -f <whatever> remove
[02:31] <test> hi is there anyway to change the mime icons in gnome?
[02:31] <x_or> Does anyone here know how to completely remove and then reinstall postgresql 7.4 where configuration files are reinstalled?  Or, in which package those configuration files are stored?  Mine were deleted and I cannot restore them.
[02:31] <arooni> what do i need to apt-get install to play back .mov files
[02:31] <spackle> arooni - try videolan or xine?
[02:31] <qkslvrwolf> bimberi:  thanks
[02:31] <qkslvrwolf> lemme try it
[02:32] <qkslvrwolf> is it gonna remove the file?
[02:32] <arooni> spackle: whats is lighter weight?
[02:32] <spackle> arooni - videolan
[02:32] <bimberi> qkslvrwolf: no, the file will stay but links to it from, for example, /etc/rc2.d will be removed
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> jrinco11: I am thinking a copy of the CD on an extra partition, boot a grub floppy that can fire off the livecd running off the drive. But I have never heard of anyone doing it.
[02:32] <spackle> arooni - I don't know if it has the right codecs for a Mov though.
[02:32] <FunkyDiscoMan> can anybody help me with a litlle gst-launch prob, am inexperienced with gstreamer pipelines
[02:33] <qkslvrwolf> perfect.  :-)
[02:33] <qkslvrwolf> thanks!
[02:33] <spackle> anybody familiar with PXE install process?
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jrinco11: Let me look at the livecd for a sec..
[02:33] <jrinco11> yah, i dont' have any floppy/cd/usb support upon boot
[02:34] <qkslvrwolf> so whats rc stand for?
[02:34] <jrinco11> this travel mate uses some proprietary cd drive
[02:34] <qkslvrwolf> and what is it doing?  Is that the startup scripts, more or less?
[02:34] <jrinco11> so i can only use what's on the hdd (which is why i tried to load the install on the hdd)
[02:36] <test> hi is there anyway to change the mime icons in gnome?
[02:37] <Darkprince> does anybody know about this?
[02:37] <Darkprince> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143334&page=1
[02:37] <bimberi> qkslvrwolf: yes, each runlevel has a directory under /etc with symlinks to the scripts to start (or stop) when that booting to that runlevel
[02:38] <bimberi> qkslvrwolf: nfi what rc stands for though :)
[02:38] <KatteKrab> http://waraku.blogspot.com/2006/06/ubuntu-test.html
[02:38] <qkslvrwolf> bimberi: sweetness.  :-)  Thanks!  I got my new thing learned for the day. :-)
[02:38] <Darkprince> apparently there is a file /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat  that contains the root password in plain text (with ubuntu)
[02:39] <Darkprince> though, i can't find it on my system
[02:39] <bimberi> Darkprince: yes, that's a bug with the Breezy CD
[02:39] <jrib> test: system > preferences > themes, you can grab more themes at gnome-look.org
[02:40] <bimberi> Darkprince: fixed if a Breezy install has been kept up to date.  Not an issue in dapper afaik
[02:40] <Darkprince> cool
[02:40] <FunkyDiscoMan> anyone good with gstreamer pipelines?
[02:41] <redcard> Darkprince: It's not in dapper
[02:41] <redcard> I just installed ubuntu on friday :)
[02:41] <Darkprince> how do you guys keep responding to me in red?
[02:41] <Darkprince> i'm new to irc as well
[02:41] <redcard> Darkprince: You're using conversation.  It's highlighting your name :)
[02:41] <redcard> Err. .Konversation
[02:41] <jrib> Darkprince: put the person's nick in front of your message
[02:41] <Darkprince> jrib: like so?
[02:42] <spackle> How does a PXE netboot install know what to use for initial repositories?
[02:42] <jrib> Darkprince: yes (except mine is yellow :P).  Also you can type the beginning of the name 'jr' and press tab
[02:42] <Darkprince> jrib, cool
[02:42] <warlocky-> does IE work on ubuntu? :D
[02:43] <AOGuy1989> no
[02:43] <Darkprince> warlocky-, dunno, i use firefox even in windows
[02:43] <Flannel> warlocky-: in wine, yeah.
[02:43] <Solarion> warlocky-: yes
[02:43] <Solarion> www.codeweavers.com
[02:43] <Solarion> USD30, and you can get MS Office working too
[02:43] <Darkprince> warlocky-, firefox > IE
[02:43] <Solarion> despite Microsoft's best efforts to the contrary
[02:43] <warlocky-> Aye I know, but we're testing a design
[02:43] <Solarion> otherwise, www.vmware.com
[02:43] <Solarion> requires valid Windows license, though.
[02:44] <AOGuy1989> hmm
[02:44] <Solarion> You can buy Workstation for a few hundred (or about $100 academic) or you can use the free Server
[02:44] <Solarion> there is also Xen, if you have hypervisor capability in your cpu.
[02:45] <Solarion> [otherwise, you have to somehow find a Xen-enabled Windows version, which isn't legal]
[02:45] <Flannel> warlocky-: http://browsers.evolt.org/  People have gotten those browsers to work in wine
[02:45] <Solarion> You also have Bochs (very very slow, but free) and also Win4Lin.
[02:45] <warlocky-> ah np guys
[02:45] <warlocky-> its sorted out
[02:45] <warlocky-> big thanks
[02:45] <AOGuy1989> Package gnome-bluetooth is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:45] <AOGuy1989> is only available from another source
[02:45] <AOGuy1989> E: Package gnome-bluetooth has no installation candidate
[02:45] <AOGuy1989> what ius wrong with that
[02:46] <jersymike> can someone pleas help me with the knoppix live cd
[02:46] <Flannel> spackle: the ip addy, I believe.  You following this howto? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[02:46] <Solarion> warlocky-: the easiest solution for us all is to get people to stop using IE so we can stop having to care about its inadequacies.  ;)
[02:46] <warlocky-> lol
[02:46] <bruenig> !pastebin
[02:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:46] <bruenig> AOGUY1989, that means it wasn't found in the respositories
[02:46] <AOGuy1989> ok well why cna;y i gegt it
[02:46] <spackle> flannel: Yeah, looked at this and a few others.
[02:46] <Flannel> AOGuy1989: you need to have universe installed
[02:46] <gtrplr> can someone direct me to a FAQ on 6.06 wireless?
[02:46] <Flannel> AOGuy1989: er, enabled.
[02:46] <bruenig> AOGuy, do you have the extra repositories enabled?
[02:46] <AOGuy1989> i have universe installed i thing
[02:47] <AOGuy1989> i do
[02:47] <bimberi> !wifi
[02:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[02:47] <Flannel> AOGuy1989: Have you updated your cache?
[02:47] <AOGuy1989> have u what
[02:47] <AOGuy1989> i*
[02:47] <bruenig> AOGuy1989, 1.do sudo apt-get update, then try again and 2. are you sure that is the name of the package
[02:47] <bruenig> !info gnome-bluetooth
[02:47] <AOGuy1989> yes
[02:47] <ubotu> gnome-bluetooth: GNOME Bluetooth tools.. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 205 kB, installed size 892 kB
[02:47] <AOGuy1989> see
[02:47] <spackle> flannel: Ooh, maybe not this one, thanks for the link.
[02:48] <rebelfallen> How can I completely remove KDE? I want to keep gnome instead
[02:48] <LjL> rebelfallen: you can't with a single command, unless you installed it with aptitude. however, if you remove "kdelibs4c2a", you'll remove most of it
[02:48] <Nekow42> rebelfallen: Be careful, a lot of packages depend on the KDE libs...
[02:48] <theBishop> Beagle has recently stopped working for me...
[02:49] <Flannel> rebelfallen: you can use debfoster or something like it
[02:49] <AOGuy1989> thanks
[02:49] <AOGuy1989> =)
[02:49] <LjL> rebelfallen: removing libqt3-mt will possibly remove even more, but could remove stuff that you wanted to keep as well, since it takes away everythign that uses Qt
[02:49] <rebelfallen> wow okay thanks
[02:49] <kptZbik> 'lo!
[02:49] <Shak-> how is file sharing over a network accomplished in ubuntu?
[02:50] <Nekow42> rebelfallen: Make sure you look in detail through the list of packages being removed...
[02:50] <spackle> !samba
[02:50] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:50] <Flannel> rebelfallen: or, maybe the more modern one is deborphan, one of those two does (well, they both do, one better than the other) exactly what you want
[02:50] <spackle> !NFS
[02:50] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[02:50] <Nekow42> !samba
[02:50] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:50] <Shak-> cool thanks, i'll check those out
[02:51] <theBishop> Has a recent Ubuntu update done anything that would break BEAGLE?
[02:51] <kokak> hi, gud day. can anybody help me? I like to learn programming. how do i install glade, anjuta and its libraries? any sites i can read?
[02:51] <rebelfallen> thank you again folks, you're great as always
[02:51] <kptZbik> I have big problems with cd burning under Ubuntu - there are extremely long pauses (2 hrs) between starting the burning and ejecting the CD, with lots of hdc: lost interrupt in kernel log
[02:52] <LjL> kokak: "sudo aptitude anjuta glade"
[02:52] <theBishop> kokak, learning programming isn't going to start with Glade
[02:52] <LjL> kokak: "sudo aptitude install anjuta glade"
[02:52] <LjL> kokak: (ignore the first message)
[02:52] <kptZbik> did anyone encounter something like this?
[02:52] <kokak> theBishop, where?
[02:52] <theBishop> kokak, pick a language (C for example) and learn it.  You won't be starting with GUI applications
[02:53] <kokak> LjL, how about the libraries?
[02:53] <LjL> kokak: i'm not sure what libraries you're thinking about
[02:53] <jrinco11> jack_sparrow:  so i figured the video card it uses is
[02:53] <jrinco11> Trident 9525 - 128 bit, 2.5MB SDRAM, AGP
[02:53] <kokak> theBishop, i know C in windows based. i
[02:53] <jrinco11> and i tried to copy hte settings from http://www.theiling.de/acer.html
[02:53] <kokak> i'd like to learn it in linux based.
[02:53] <Nekow42> kokak: C is stadard, it's pretty much the same...
[02:53] <theBishop> you've already written Win32 applications?
[02:54] <jrinco11> and i still get "data imcomplete in file /xorg.conf -- undefined device "ATI radeon 340agp" reference bvy screen "default screen".
[02:54] <kokak> LjL, i tried installing glade and anjuta in the reporitories but i could not compile? what do you think i need.
[02:54] <theBishop> kokak, GCC
[02:54] <LjL> kokak: build-essential
[02:54] <theBishop> yep
[02:54] <LjL> !b-e > kokak
[02:55] <theBishop> that's it
[02:55] <kokak> LjL, ic.
[02:56] <kokak> so, after i install glade and anjuta what do i do? just type build-essentials?
[02:56] <ballpointcarrot> kokak: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:56] <Darkprince> i got xine to play MPEG movies, but now i'm getting an error about Audio codecs and i get no sound. where can i find the codecs i need?
[02:56] <Nekow42> Darkprince: Easy ubuntu?
[02:56] <Darkprince> ?
[02:56] <kokak> ic. ok. thanks guys.
[02:56] <kokak> i try it.
[02:57] <Nekow42> Darkprince: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[02:57] <LjL> kokak, when we say you need "x" or "y", we usually mean a package. you can install packages in various ways
[02:57] <LjL> !tell kokak about packages
[02:57] <Darkprince> Nekow42, i'll give it a shot =)
[02:57] <kptZbik> the CDs burn fine under windows and Gentoo
[02:57] <theBishop> LjL, you using Beagle?
[02:57] <LjL> !tell kokak about apt-get
[02:57] <LjL> theBishop: nope
[02:57] <Bentley333> can anyone help me with getting drivers to make a highpoint 1520 raid card work with ubuntu server?
[02:58] <Nekow42> Darkprince: This page of easyubuntu should do everything you need: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/images/screenshot1.png
[02:58] <andy-> is there a gaming server browser software of any kind?
[02:58] <theBishop> Is ANYONE using Beagle?
[02:58] <andy-> like 'The All Seeing Eye'
[02:58] <redcard> theBishop: I have it up there..
[02:58] <Darkprince> Nekow42, thanks
[02:58] <redcard> theBishop: What's up?
[02:58] <theBishop> redcard, Beagle used to work for me, recently it stopped working.
[02:58] <Darkprince> Nekow42, i just need to download and install easyubuntu?
[02:59] <theBishop> redcard, i'm wondering if a recent update broke it
[02:59] <corsachriz> wer kommt nich klar?
[02:59] <LjL> !de
[02:59] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:59] <redcard> Hum.  That I wouldn't know.  But I just got Ubuntu on friday, so..
[02:59] <redcard> I don't think the current version of it is.
[02:59] <theBishop> ok, i'm going to uninstall it, reboot, and reinstall
[02:59] <Nekow42> Darkprince: Yes, then run it, then check/uncheck all the options you want...
[02:59] <Darkprince> Nekow42, alright
[03:00] <CyDrive> can someone help me with my installation of kopete?
[03:00] <Kyral> what about it?
[03:00] <Kyral> Didn't work?
[03:00] <CyDrive> when i do ./configure i get this error
[03:00] <CyDrive> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[03:01] <Kyral> ...dude
[03:01] <ryanakca> sweet :) The hello world collection: http://tlgp.sourceforge.net/hello/
[03:01] <Kyral> no compile needed!
[03:01] <Kyral> install kdenetwork!
[03:01] <CyDrive> oooh o
[03:01] <CyDrive> ok*
[03:01] <CyDrive> thank you
[03:01] <Kyral> though that also drags all of KDE
[03:01] <crimsun> CyDrive: install build-essential
[03:01] <Kyral> but I figure since you want Kopete
[03:02] <Kyral> that ain't a problem :P
[03:02] <CyDrive> lol true
[03:02] <jersymike> is ne one here taht could help me with a persistiant image on knoppix? it keeps going to 96% and stoping
[03:02] <Kyral> crimsun: its in kdenetwork...in all distros
[03:02] <meatballhat> sorry to ask this, but is there a newbie channel?
[03:02] <Kyral> this is it
[03:03] <Kyral> though sometimes (like all Open Source channels) we get into minor flamewars :P
[03:03] <Darkprince> Nekow42, wow, if it works, it should fix a LOT of my problems. thanks
[03:03] <Bentley333> Is there a hardware specific channel?
[03:03] <Kyral> ..why do we need it
[03:03] <crimsun> !kopete edgy
[03:03] <Kyral> its just more tabs to have open on the IRC Client and we are lazy :P
[03:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about kopete edgy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:03] <crimsun> bah
[03:03] <meatballhat> I see...  so is there a good place to go when all of the FAQ docs still don't help with configuring wireless? :-)
[03:03] <Kyral> !kdenetwork edgy
[03:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdenetwork edgy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:03] <Kyral> ....
[03:03] <Kyral> !info kdenetwork
[03:03] <gnomefreak> !info kopete edgy
[03:03] <ubotu> kdenetwork: network-related apps from the official KDE release. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 68 kB
[03:03] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.3-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 5056 kB, installed size 16948 kB
[03:03] <gnomefreak> ^^ crimsun
[03:04] <crimsun> yeah, I forgot the !info
[03:04] <bruenig> !anything like George W. Bush
[03:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything like George W. Bush - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:04] <gnomefreak> bruenig: dont play witht he bot
[03:05] <bruenig> i thought that was a package, my fault
[03:05] <gnomefreak> bruenig: try not to lie that bad either
[03:06] <meatballhat> Kyral: I don't think I noticed what you wrote... sorry...  was your answer kdenetwork?
[03:06] <Kyral> yah it should be
[03:06] <Kyral> for Kopete (and just about every other core KDE Network program)
[03:06] <meatballhat> is that one of the "advanced" installable packages?
[03:07] <Kyral> "advanced"
[03:07] <DBO> hey crimsun, I made the mistake a ways back of compiling my own lib and sticking it in /opt/, then copying the .la.  I have since fixed the obviously wrong .la, and fixed any bad references in /usr/lib/pkg-config, as well as fixed my idiocy on the matter, but I cant get libtool to stop looking in /opt/ for that library...
[03:07] <bruenig> "advanced"?
[03:07] <Kyral> WTF is this "advanced"
[03:07] <meatballhat> heck... I dunno
[03:07] <DBO> crimsun, you have any idea what I can do?
[03:07] <Kyral> A package is a package is a package
[03:07] <redcard> meatballhat: Do you mean a meta-package?
[03:07] <PreZ> tat
[03:07] <PreZ> yay even
[03:07] <Kyral> meta-packages
[03:07] <PreZ> I got my EVDO card working
[03:07] <bruenig> from advanced, i draw two possible conclusions, 1. it is in the extra repos 2. It is hard to use 3.  Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:08] <meatballhat> wonderful!
[03:08] <Darkprince> anybody know if there is a way to get a Netgear wireless adapter to work in linux?
[03:09] <Kyral> Even better
[03:09] <Kyral> lemme dig up a link for a second...
[03:09] <crimsun> DBO: (right, -devs shouldn't be shipping .las anymore)  What -dev hasn't been recompiled against the reworked lib?
[03:09] <Kyral> Goddamn even a year after I wrote this thing people still post thanking me
[03:09] <bruenig> meatballhat, advanced is the synaptic package manager,
[03:09] <carthik> Can someone explain the best way to use gpg with more than one email address?
[03:09] <Nekow42> Darkprince: Depends on the model
[03:09] <Kyral> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885
[03:09] <Kyral> Terminal For Beginners
[03:09] <meatballhat> yes yes!  synaptic! I'm actually learning!
[03:09] <crimsun> carthik: more context?
[03:09] <Kyral> Read, understand, and harness the TRUE power of Unix
[03:10] <Nekow42> Darkprince: Google for the model number and add the word "Linux"
[03:10] <Darkprince> i used to run FC4 and i couldn't even get the CD to install
[03:10] <pepsi> loonax
[03:10] <DBO> crimsun, I needed the .la to try out gimmie, but this was for libXrender
[03:10] <Bonez_> wtf yellowpages.com.au
[03:10] <bruenig> meatballhat, synaptic is a graphical representation of apt-get
[03:10] <meatballhat> gotcha
[03:10] <Kyral> it also sucks...
[03:10] <bruenig> kyral, damn righ
[03:10] <bruenig> t*
[03:10] <Kyral> I have yet to see a decent GUI package manager
[03:11] <DBO> crimsun, like I said, I have removed the offending .la, but the memory of the self-compiled libXrender remains...
[03:11] <Nekow42> Darkprince: What exactly IS the model #?
[03:11] <Darkprince> Nekow42, WG111T
[03:11] <PreZ> Kyral: I still get the occasional email about a response to the columbine shootings I posted on my website (goth.net) years ago (its still on the website, though has not been linked from the main page for a good 8 years or so)
[03:11] <Kyral> ....
[03:11] <crimsun> DBO: so what's pulling in the .la reference? (some lib that was built against the libxrender-dev that still contained the .la)
[03:11] <meatballhat> I just started learning Linux command shell last week, so... :-(   Thanks all for your help - I'm off to learn AptGet!
[03:11] <Kyral> WTF?
[03:11] <Kyral> meatballhat: read the topic I pasted
[03:11] <carthik> crimsun: I have a primary as well as a secondary email address. I want to use gpg with both addresses. Should I use "adduid" "addkey" or "genkey" to use both emails - what is "right" way for one person to manage more than one email address? I want to be able to, revoke/cancel email addresses if I stop using them later (like my university email address)
[03:11] <meatballhat> I'm already there :-) thanks much!
[03:11] <Kyral> PreZ: I'm gonna assume a mischan?
[03:12] <Bonez_> !repeat
[03:12] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:12] <crimsun> DBO: meaning you need to recompile all debs that built against the libxrender-dev that contained the .la
[03:12] <Nekow42> Darkprince: look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101653 it might help
[03:12] <DBO> crimsun, oh... my... darnit...
[03:12] <gnomefreak> DBO: told you a long night of screwing around :(
[03:12] <PreZ> Kyral: no - you were talking about getting responses to things you'd posted a long time ago
[03:12] <crimsun> carthik: adduid
[03:12] <PreZ> I was telling you its not THAT uncommon ;)
[03:12] <jersymike> is ne one here that could help me with a persistiant image on knoppix? it keeps going to 96% and stoping
[03:12] <Kyral> ...and I thought I made leaps of logic....
[03:12] <DBO> crimsun, will sudo apt-get install --reinstall package be enough for most of those?
[03:12] <crimsun> Kyral: shush you arch user :-P
[03:12] <bruenig> !running a country, just like the republicans.
[03:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about running a country, just like the republicans. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:13] <Kyral> ....wtf is THAT supposed to mean
[03:13] <Shak-> I just set up Samba and shared a folder, but opening the network resource with something like \\<IP_ADDRESS> on a windows box prompts a user/pass?
[03:13] <Kyral> I'm also still an Ubuntu Member and Maintainer
[03:13] <Kyral> jeez
[03:13] <Bonez_> !beer
[03:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about beer - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:13] <crimsun> Kyral: it's obviously a joke
[03:13] <carthik> crimsun, http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#AEN305 says a UID cannot be revoked (and elsewhere that uids cannot be deleted)?
[03:13] <grout> im running dapper on a core duo how can i tell if both cores are being utilized?
[03:13] <PreZ> grout: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:13] <crimsun> grout: are you using the -686 flavour?
[03:13] <Kyral> crimsun: Anyone can still you I suck at realizing sarcasm :P
[03:13] <PreZ> if you see 2 CPUs, its using them
[03:14] <grout> no im using the default 386
[03:14] <crimsun> grout: you'll need to use the -686 flavour
[03:14] <students> daw beh
[03:14] <PreZ> the 686-smp one to be specific
[03:14] <grout> just sudo apt-get instal 686
[03:14] <crimsun> grout: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought 386 also did dual core cpu's
[03:15] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: no smp or 686
[03:15] <Omeganon> Hi! Where does CD/DVD creator store it's files before burn?
[03:15] <Shak-> anyone know why? windows is prompting a user/pass for a public samba share
[03:15] <students> jojo/join
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Id swear I saw it report two cpus
[03:15] <Bonez_> grout: if I am using a single AMD64 3200+ would I be better off with i686 also?
[03:15] <gnomefreak> 386 will only run up to a certain mhz iirc
[03:15] <Omeganon> I've been unable to find or locate them
[03:15] <crimsun> Bonez_: if you want to use Flash and w32codecs, yes.
[03:15] <crimsun> Bonez_: or -k7
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Omeganon: isnt that a windows program?
[03:15] <Bonez_> crimsun: awesome, installing now...85mb :)
[03:15] <olrrai> hi
[03:16] <Bonez_> olrrai: hi
[03:16] <GUARDiAN|nb> hi
[03:16] <Bonez_> crimsun: what's the diff between k7 and i686?
[03:16] <students> hi
[03:16] <crimsun> carthik: you can always delete uids
[03:16] <Omeganon> Jack Sparrow: Um. no ;) It's standard in Ubuntu ;)
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> gnomefreak: what is the ghz limit on 396?
[03:16] <jersymike> is ne one here that could help me with a persistiant image on knoppix? it keeps going to 96% and stoping
[03:16] <PreZ> Bonez: athlon optimizations
[03:16] <carthik> Shak- so have you set up a guest account on your samba server? there are lots of guides on how to do that - the password request is samba asking you to login - you can search for "setup samba without password" though that seems less secure.
[03:16] <PreZ> (3dnow and such)
[03:16] <Bonez_> crimsun: uname -a currently shows i686, but when i did apt-get install linux-686 it is downloading 85mb of packages...
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Omeganon: I use k3b.. sorry I dont know
[03:17] <crimsun> carthik: for example, my primary key has 6 e-mail addresses associated
[03:17] <GUARDiAN|nb> i just installed some fonts which are usable in every app except openoffice... they are not even listed there... is this a known problem, or did i do something wrong?
[03:17] <Shak-> carthik: well im creating a public directory which im not worried about keeping secure
[03:17] <crimsun> Bonez_: what does ``uname -r'' return?
[03:18] <carthik> crimsun, the manual says that if I delete them, they won't effectively get deleted with the folks that already have it, since the changes are merged into what they already have (http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#AEN282 5th paragraph)
[03:18] <PreZ> Bonez: uname -a will show something like this:  Linux temple 2.6.15-26-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 7 20:10:15 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux     -- but you'll note my kernel is '-k7', but my arch is 'i686'
[03:18] <Bonez_> crimsun: well it used to return this: Linux bonezpc 2.6.15-25-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:25:49 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:18] <crimsun> Bonez_: that's why; you're using the -386 flavour not the -686 flavour
[03:18] <PreZ> Bonez: then you're using the 386 kernel
[03:18] <Bonez_> crimsun: but after installing linux-686 it now shows 2.6.15-25-386
[03:18] <olrrai> I just installed ubuntu and mount /var on /dev/sda9
[03:18] <olrrai> then i run df /dev/sda9: /dev/sda9             57005248    362764  53746772   1% /var
[03:18] <PreZ> right
[03:18] <IseeIsee> this command is valid ?   sudo apt-get install sun-java5-*
[03:19] <olrrai> 57005248-365172=56640076        not 53744364!!
[03:19] <carthik> crimsun, alright, if adduid works for you, it works for me :) thanks.
[03:19] <crimsun> carthik: that's correct due to syncing across keyservers. You'd have to ask everyone who imported your key to delete the uid
[03:19] <Shak-> carthik: from what I see theres meant to be a "security" parameter in the conf file under global, but I dont see it?
[03:19] <grout> what command will show me the kernel im using?
[03:19] <crimsun> grout: uname -r
[03:19] <carthik> crimsun, cool - will take that path
[03:19] <Bonez_> crimsun: so after installing linux-686 is it safe to reboot (i'm currently not at home, so if something breaks whilst booting i can't fix it remotely)
[03:19] <Shak-> carthik: nevermind, I found it :)
[03:19] <wachunei> HELP, i guess i need some intel drivers :S
[03:19] <crimsun> Bonez_: if you're paranoid, wait til you're physically present.
[03:20] <IseeIsee> is this command is valid ?   sudo apt-get install sun-java5-*
[03:20] <Bonez_> crimsun: i'm not paranoid, but does apt-get do everything i need? do i need to tell grub about a new kernel or anything?
[03:20] <crimsun> IseeIsee: I'd be more specific.
[03:20] <carthik> Shak-, great
[03:20] <wachunei> help please guys+
[03:20] <crimsun> Bonez_: it handles things for you, but again, paranoia is your call.
[03:20] <Shak-> carthik: ok im able to open a connection now, but I dont see my shares?
[03:20] <grout> since i've downloaded the 686 kernel is shows the 285 kernels and 686 kernels in the bootloader, anyway to remove the 386 options?
[03:20] <IseeIsee> crimsun: it says to me "E: couldn't find package sun-java5*"
[03:20] <Bonez_> crimsun: thanks for your help. i'll take the risk and give her a reboot ;) bbs
[03:21] <crimsun> IseeIsee: do you write Java programs?
[03:21] <carthik> Shak- there are so many variable in the config file etc that I am not sure I can help you
[03:21] <Shak-> ok, i'll look through it
[03:21] <IseeIsee> crimsun: trying to do on Ubuntu/linux
[03:21] <crimsun> IseeIsee: then you just need ``sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk sun-java5-plugin''
[03:21] <IseeIsee> fine but this command should work ?
[03:21] <olrrai> i have 3 gigas unusen in /dev/sda9, but cant correct it! can help me?
[03:21] <olrrai> unused
[03:21] <grout> since i've downloaded the 686 kernel is shows the 285 kernels and 686 kernels in the bootloader, anyway to remove the 386 options?
[03:21] <crimsun> IseeIsee: the command I gave you will work if you have multiverse and universe enabled.
[03:22] <wachunei> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218627
[03:22] <crimsun> grout: uname -r
[03:22] <grout> no no
[03:22] <grout> since i've downloaded the 686 kernel is shows the 285 kernels and 686 kernels in the bootloader, anyway to remove the 386 options?
[03:22] <grout> since i've downloaded the 686 kernel is shows the 386 kernels and 686 kernels in the bootloader, anyway to remove the 386 options?
[03:23] <IseeIsee> crimsun: the following command should enable it    deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main multiverse universe
[03:23] <IseeIsee> crimsun: or do I need a restricted keyword in it ?
[03:24] <Bonez> crimsun: woohoo :) Linux bonezpc 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 17 20:14:14 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:24] <rever> Good evening does anyone know of any instructions for getting xawtv4?
[03:24] <crimsun> IseeIsee: not deb-src but deb
[03:24] <grout> since i've downloaded the 686 kernel is shows the 386 kernels and 686 kernels in the bootloader, anyway to remove the 386 options?
[03:24] <IseeIsee> yeah I get it deb, do I need the restricted keyword ?
[03:25] <Bonez> What does SMP PREEMPT mean?
[03:25] <crimsun> IseeIsee: if you don't have it elsewhere, yes.
[03:25] <barneyR> anyone happen to know if a USB external modem works with 6.06? it's a real hardware modem
[03:25] <crimsun> Bonez: it means it's a kernel compiled with the SMP and PREEMPT options enabled
[03:25] <Bonez> barneyR: absolutely. hardware modems work with everything :)
[03:25] <Bonez> ok cool
[03:25] <barneyR> Bonez, even USB?
[03:26] <IseeIsee> crimsun: elsewhere you mean somewhere else in the sources.list or in the same command ?
[03:26] <crimsun> IseeIsee: same line
[03:26] <Bonez> barneyR: I can't see why not. I use a USB multifunction printer/scanner/coppier, a digital cam, a webcam, other stuff all natively, without having to lift a finger
[03:27] <barneyR> ok thanks, I don't have the modem to test yet, someone is bringing it over tomorrow, not sure if it was worth the trouble
[03:27] <IseeIsee> what is the difference between ctrl-z & ctrl-c on terminal ?
[03:27] <Bonez> barneyR: google scanmodem and install that, that should detect the modem and tell you what drivers to install
[03:27] <barneyR> thanks bonez
[03:27] <Flannel> IseeIsee: one stops, on breaks.  ^C stops it, ^Z just pauses
[03:27] <Shak-> carthik: almost there now, I can see the network resource, but attempting to open it says "the network path was not found" (windows)
[03:27] <Bonez> np
[03:27] <DBO> crimsun, can I /msg you?
[03:27] <IseeIsee> Flannel, how can I resume it ?
[03:28] <Ropechoborra> Hi.. I got like 3 kernel images installed... which should i uninstall and wich not??
[03:28] <carthik> hmm, Shak- after you make changes to the samba conf, restart the samba server??
[03:28] <Flannel> IseeIsee: after ^Z?  type "jobs" you'll get a list of jobs and their numbers, then %#, where # is the number ($1 for instance)
[03:28] <Shak-> carthik: o_O how do I restart teh service?
[03:29] <Bonez> I have an irritating permissions problem, i have a fat32 partition mounted and in the console I can read/write to it fine, but under nautilus it shows as read only... anyone got some light they can shed on this?
[03:29] <Krhis> Ropechoborra, unlike Windows it is not required to uninstall them.
[03:29] <Krhis> Ropechoborra, is there a reasion why you want too?
[03:29] <Bonez> Shak-: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[03:29] <carthik> Shak- look in /etc/init.d/ there should be samba or something similar, if yes, then do a /etc/init.d/samba(replace with the right name here) restart
[03:29] <Ropechoborra> When i boot i got like 6 slots just for ubuntu
[03:29] <grout> since i've downloaded the 686 kernel is shows the 386 kernels and 686 kernels in the bootloader, anyway to remove the 386 options?
[03:29] <Ropechoborra> =S
[03:30] <Ropechoborra> Krhis When i boot i got like 6 slots just for ubuntu
[03:30] <Krhis> Ropechoborra, I'd suggest editing /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:30] <Ropechoborra> Thats why =/
[03:30] <Ropechoborra> Thanks
[03:30] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: You have two per kernel (regular, and rescue mode)
[03:30] <IseeIsee> are terminal commands same across all linux distros: ?
[03:30] <Flannel> IseeIsee: they're bash commands, so theyre the sameacross any bash terminal, yes.
[03:31] <Ropechoborra> How do i know wich kernel fits bets my needs??
[03:31] <Flannel> IseeIsee: of course, there are other terminals
[03:31] <IseeIsee> sudo apt-get is a bash command ?
[03:31] <Krhis> Flannel: He/she is asking how to remove them, not why they are there.
[03:31] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: they're probably all the same kernel, just different versions (upgraded), so, the most recent is the one to keep.
[03:31] <Bonez> IseeIsee: no it's a debian/ubuntu app
[03:31] <IseeIsee> oh
[03:31] <wachunei> IseeIsee: even in mac os x
[03:31] <skavenge> apt-get is
[03:31] <Flannel> sudo is as well
[03:31] <skavenge> alot of commands are universal though
[03:31] <DBO> crimsun, nevermind, thank you for your help, I fixed it
[03:32] <wachunei> IseeIsee: the commands like mv sudo sp su are all the same in an unix system
[03:32] <Krhis> Flannel: no, they are old kernels.
[03:32] <wachunei> *cp
[03:32] <Flannel> Krhis: What are you talking about?
[03:32] <Ropechoborra> Flannel but.. how do i know if im chooseing the most recent in the grub?
[03:33] <Krhis> I've been heling Ropechoborra for the past fue minutes.
[03:33] <wachunei> Ropechoborra, the top one is the recent
[03:33] <Shak-> carthik: still getting that error :(
[03:33] <Ropechoborra> Ty ! =)
[03:33] <Bonez> is there an easy way to upgrade my kernel using apt-get ?
[03:33] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: when ubuntu upgrades, it adds the most recent kernel to the top of the list.  If you remove the older ones with apt (or any frontend) the others will go away
[03:33] <Bonez> or do I have to compile my own
[03:34] <Ropechoborra> So.. i just delete them from grub.. theres no need to uninstall them? Dont use much space?
[03:34] <carthik> Shak- :( sorry dude... can't really help  much
[03:34] <Bonez> Ropechoborra: i just did the same as you, installed linux-686 and edited the menu.lst file and commented out the i386 kernels... i would like to know the answer to this too
[03:34] <dasd> hello...hows the nubuntu project ?
[03:34] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: uninstall them, and they will be removed from grub
[03:35] <wachunei> Who has an intel video card here?
[03:35] <Bonez> Flannel: what is the easiest way to uninstall them?
[03:35] <skavenge> me
[03:35] <Flannel> Bonez: apt
[03:35] <carthik> Ropechoborra, you can search for linux-image and uninstall all except the one kernel you are currently using - be careful not to delete the one you are using presently ($uname -r will tell you what you are using now)
[03:35] <Flannel> Bonez: or, synaptic, if youre using a GUI
[03:35] <Ropechoborra> Flannel Ok.. in Synaptic are the "linux-images" ??
[03:35] <wachunei> skavenge: which driveers did you use?
[03:35] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: right
[03:35] <Fjodor> wachunei: Have one on my laptop
[03:35] <Bonez> carthik: great thanks for the extra info
[03:36] <Ropechoborra>  ($uname -r <--- Didnt get that
[03:36] <skavenge> wachunei: i810
[03:36] <Ropechoborra> Like $username???
[03:36] <grout> Bonex: i need to do the same thing as you. how do you uninstall the extra kernels?
[03:36] <wachunei> Fjodor: i need the drivers, and how to get "openGL" or something like that
[03:36] <wachunei> skavenge: where did you get them?
[03:36] <carthik> "uname -r" without the quote is the command to check which kernel you are using currently, Ropechoborra
[03:36] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: no, type that at a terminal, and you'll get the kernel you're currently using
[03:36] <Bonez> grout: sudo apt-cache search linux-image - then remove the ones you don't need
[03:36] <CyDrive> Can someone help me i want to get the denetwor but im not sure wich pacage to use or how to install or anything
[03:36] <Fjodor> wachunei: Should be installed by default
[03:36] <CyDrive> Kdenetwork*
[03:36] <skavenge> wachunei: autodetected and ubuntu installed it
[03:36] <Bonez> hmm i have k7 kernels installed as well, strange
[03:36] <carthik> CyDrive, what is denetwor?
[03:36] <olrrai> is it an error (df /dev/sda9)?: /dev/sda9             57005248    362764  53746772   1% /var
[03:37] <Flannel> Bonez: you've got an AMD?
[03:37] <Fjodor> wachunei: Trying out xgl or something?
[03:37] <olrrai> 3G unused?
[03:37] <Ropechoborra> Thank you all so much ! =)
[03:37] <wachunei> Fjodor, skavenge: and how do i install opengl?
[03:37] <Bonez> Flannel: yes
[03:37] <skavenge> wachunei: worked for me out of the box as well
[03:37] <Bonez> Flannel: but i am using the i686 kernel
[03:37] <wachunei> Fjodor: yup, i have installed XGL, but ive removed it
[03:37] <CyDrive> Can someone help me i want to get the kdenetwor but im not sure wich package to use or how to install or anything
[03:37] <grout> Bonez: i do to
[03:37] <Fjodor> wachunei: Ok. Come on over to #ubuntu-xgl
[03:38] <grout> Bonez: where do you go just to comment them out?
[03:38] <Ropechoborra> how do i know wich kernel is bets for my pc ??
[03:38] <Ropechoborra> For ex.
[03:38] <Ropechoborra> k7 is for AMD.. an those
[03:38] <Bonez> grout: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:38] <Bonez> Flannel: which kernel would you recommend I run on an AMD64 3200+ ?
[03:39] <grout> Bonez: my /boot dir is empty
[03:39] <Bonez> grout: hmmmm.... can't help with that one.. sounds like something is broked
[03:39] <plouj> if I want to download an amd64 live cd, which file/folder should I choose here: ftp://ftp.cs.mun.ca/pub/mirror/ubuntu-releases/6 - I don't see where it says live
[03:39] <Bonez> plouj: just grab the first install cd/iso - with dapper the installer cd is also a livecd
[03:39] <Flannel> Bonez: well, k7 is for AMD, er, unless the 64bits are k8.  The descriptions of the kernels give you a good idea of what they're for
[03:40] <Flannel> plouj: desktop CD is the liveCD
[03:40] <Bonez> Flannel: ok ill do a bit of googling, cheers
[03:40] <tamale> how can I make a mount point to the root of a windows share?  ie, the other computers name is  "foo"  but I don't want a mount to "foo/desktop", i literally want a mount to "foo"  ?
[03:40] <plouj> oh, I have dapper beta 6.06, that's also an installer/live cd CD?
[03:40] <CyDrive> Can anyone help me get the KDEnetwork installed on my machine im not eve sure where to start or wich versiond to download
[03:40] <grout> anyone know why they /boot/ directory would be empty?
[03:41] <plouj> grout: because it isn't mounted, possibly
[03:41] <Ropechoborra> Flannel and for a Celeron 2.0 wich kernel would u recommend ?
[03:41] <Kyral> Celeron 2.0
[03:41] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: celerons are 686
[03:41] <Kyral> wtf is that?
[03:41] <students> hello
[03:42] <Kyral> There is no such thing as a "Celeron 2.0"
[03:42] <skavenge> 2 ghz im guessing
[03:42] <Ropechoborra> Flannel and why do i got 386 installed ?
[03:42] <ryanakca> if I've run: dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile2 bs=1024 count=132207, do I run: dd if=/dev/one of=swapfile2 bs=1024 count=132207   to create more swap?
[03:42] <skavenge> who knows
[03:42] <Ropechoborra> skavenge yeap that
[03:42] <Ropechoborra> :P
[03:42] <Ropechoborra> x)
[03:42] <Ropechoborra> Celeron 2GHZ
[03:43] <Kyral> Ropechoborra: because there isn't enough space on the install CD to putt every kernel so they put the lowest common denominator (386) on it
[03:43] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: 386 is generic, 386 works on 686, 686 doesn't on 386.
[03:43] <Kyral> If you want a 686 optimized Distro, go for Arch :P
[03:43] <computer13137> What command do I run to refresh the "locate" database?
[03:43] <FunnyLookinHat> or gentoo
[03:43] <Ropechoborra> Flannel so wich one should i install?
[03:43] <FunnyLookinHat> computer13137, sudo updatedb
[03:43] <skavenge> computer13137: updatedb
[03:44] <Kyral> or sudo locate -u /
[03:44] <computer13137> OK thanks
[03:44] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: install linux-image-686, it'll keep you updated on the 686 kernels
[03:45] <Ropechoborra> Thanks
[03:47] <jared_> Hey, i'm just getting used to linux and I have a creative instant webcam and need to stream my cam to the net. I've tried using camserv, but can't connect to the cam...any ideas?
[03:48] <grout> do they have a dapper that will install the 686 kernel instead of the 386?
[03:48] <Kyral> No
[03:48] <tamale> how can I make a mount point to the root of a windows share?  ie, the other computers name is  "foo"  but I don't want a mount to "foo/desktop", i literally want a mount to "foo"  ?
[03:48] <Kyral> and Edgy won't either
[03:48] <Kyral> so stop asking :P
[03:48] <sharms> grout: apt-get install linux-686
[03:48] <CyDrive> can someone help when i try to install kopete and i do ./configure i get this error configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[03:49] <Kyral> !compile
[03:49] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:49] <ryanakca> if I've run: dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile2 bs=1024 count=132207, do I run: dd if=/dev/one of=swapfile2 bs=1024 count=132207   to create more swap?
[03:49] <ryanakca> Kyral: ooooh... bofh!
[03:49] <ryanakca> @bofh
[03:49] <skavenge> that would be the windows way, 'we refuse to support old machines' .. give linux some credit you can run it on the POS collecting dust in your closet ;)
[03:49] <james296_> how can I prevent my logon screen from being displayed offscreen?
[03:49] <lg8> dunno
[03:49] <Ropechoborra> skavenge about that.. is there an ubuntu version to run with 64MB of ram??
[03:50] <Kyral> the LFS guys have claimed that they have gotten a webserver, Apache and all, in 8 MB (Thats Apache, AND the Linux system)
[03:50] <jared_> has anyone ever used a creative instant in ubuntu? I need to stream the cam onto the web
[03:50] <Kyral> Damn Small Linux specializes in low power systems
[03:50] <Bonez> I have an irritating permissions problem, i have a fat32 partition mounted and in the console I can read/write to it fine, but under nautilus it shows as read only... anyone got some light they can shed on this?
[03:50] <Kyral> Very good
[03:50] <jared_> and I have NO idea what to do
[03:50] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: get the alternate install CD, install just the server (type "server" at the first screen), then install some other WMs (*box, etc)
[03:50] <Kyral> because Nautilus is crap on a stick?
[03:50] <ttyfscker> does anybody know why the boot up splash looks all funky on edgy?  what do i need to do to get my old spash back?
[03:50] <Kyral> Thunar FTW :P
[03:50] <Bonez> Kyral: yeah it is, :) is there an alternative I can use?
[03:50] <sharms> jared_: you might want to google it, doesnt look like many people have used that camera here
[03:51] <Flannel> ttyfscker: #ubuntu+1 for edgy stuff
[03:51] <wachunei> ttyfscker: install dapper xD
[03:51] <fivre> arrgh
[03:51] <sharms> ttyfscker: the edgy screen is made to look like a TV testing screen
[03:51] <sharms> ttyfscker: normal users should NOT run it
[03:51] <james296_> so can anyone help me with the resolution of the logon screen??
[03:51] <fivre> My mouse customization stopped working
[03:51] <ttyfscker> sharms:: im not a normal user ;)
[03:51] <Kyral> or Konq :D
[03:51] <fivre> WHY MOUSE WHY?
[03:51] <sharms> ttyfscker: if you can't change the bootsplash, then yes, you probably need dapper.
[03:51] <Kyral> Because you touch yourself at night *DUCK!*
[03:51] <ttyfscker> sharms:: i know what im doing for the most part
[03:51] <Kyral> Okay...I should leave before I get worse
[03:52] <ttyfscker> sharms:: i can change the bootspash but i thought there might be a deb package i could use to do it
[03:52] <Kyral> Sorry for my behavior
[03:52] <sharms> !tell james296_ about resolution
[03:52] <james296_> I need help :-(
[03:52] <sharms> read the pm james
[03:52] <ryanakca> if I've run: dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile2 bs=1024 count=132207, do I run: dd if=/dev/one of=swapfile2 bs=1024 count=132207   to create more swap?
[03:52] <ttyfscker> sharms::  i was just basically wondering if all those funky colors were what it was suppose to look like.. im already using it.. and i knew all the testing stuff beforehand..
[03:53] <Kyral> ryanakca: there IS no /dev/one
[03:53] <sharms> yeah it is just to give you that testing look and feel
[03:53] <ryanakca> Kyral: *cough* *cough*... it works... Spec helped me out... blame him :)
[03:53] <Kyral> /dev/zero is just an endless stream of zeros
[03:54] <Kyral> and why do it that way
[03:54] <CyDrive> can someone help when i try to install kopete and i do ./configure i get this error configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[03:54] <Kyral> just make a normal swap partition anyway
[03:54] <ryanakca> Kyral: and resize stuff... ick :)
[03:54] <Kyral> CyDrive I TOLD you to install kdenetwork
[03:54] <sharms> CyDrive: kyral already answered you
[03:54] <sharms> CyDrive: read your pms from ubotu
[03:54] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install kdenetwork
[03:54] <skavenge> CyDrive: first of all kopete is in the repositories so you dont need to compile it, and if you still want to you need to install build-essential
[03:55] <CyDrive> oooh sorry i didnt see
[03:55] <Kyral> or sudo apt-get install kopete
[03:55] <Kyral> (twitch)
[03:55] <sharms> !tell cydrive about compile
[03:55] <Kyral> okay Kyral go take shower now
[03:56] <prophet> sup peoples
[03:56] <Nekow42> Ahoy
[03:56] <Bonez> is there a good alternative to nautilus in gnome?
[03:56] <prophet> im here for another session of learning :)
[03:56] <Kyral> Thunar
[03:56] <Kyral> or Rox-Filer
[03:56] <Bonez> Kyral: cheers
[03:56] <Kyral> or for a blast from the past
[03:56] <Kyral> Midnight Commander!
[03:56] <Nekow42> Bonez: I always used emelfm
[03:56] <foo> I am building openvpn, and I get this during the configure: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compuler cannot create executables. - Any ideas on what package I need to install for this?
[03:56] <Shigun> For some reason, I cannot get direct rendering working.  Using Nvidia drivers, installed and setup, yet direct rendering always returns no
[03:57] <trev__> ok, i jsut crashed ubuntu about 8 times in a row but nothing was saving whenever it happened, should i reinstall it or will it be fine
[03:57] <randysuarez> i have the same problem with my ati card
[03:57] <Kyral> Kyral.location == Shower :P
[03:57] <Kyral> Cya'll in a bit
[03:57] <Shigun> Anybody have a thought on what I could do to actually enable Direct Rendering?
[03:57] <Nekow42> trev__: can you be a bit more specific?
[03:58] <randysuarez> I've come to accept not having 3-d
[03:58] <randysuarez> LOL
[03:58] <computer13137> OK, I just installed Apache and VSFTPd.  How do I add a web user that has access to all of /var/www?
[03:58] <Nekow42> trev__: Is it crashing on boot?
[03:58] <Shigun> It worked fine for me before I reinstalled Ubuntu yesterday
[03:58] <Shigun> I have not had it sicne
[03:58] <Shigun> *since
[03:58] <Bonez> ok so I just installed Thunar, is there a way to make that default and then remove nautilus?
[03:58] <trev__> i was changing my drivers from vesa to nvidia and acidentally put in nvidia.
[03:58] <trev__> the period screwed it up
[03:58] <computer13137> brb
[03:58] <trev__> i then took 1 hour teaching myself the vi command
[03:58] <trev__> so i tbrashed a lot
[03:58] <foo> I am building openvpn, and I get this during the configure: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compuler cannot create executables. - Any ideas on what package I need to install for this?
[03:59] <Kyral> Vi is not a command...it is an Editor for the True Programmer!
[03:59] <sharms> !tell foo about compiler
[03:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about compiler - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:59] <sharms> !tell foo about compile
[03:59] <trev__> *crashed
[04:00] <rever> Has anyone been able to compile xawtv4?
[04:00] <trev__> well i just learned how to use it, but does crashing linux hurt it like windows
[04:00] <Nekow42> trev__: Well, ubuntu uses a journaling file system by default, so the ill effects of crashing are minimalized
[04:00] <sharms> trev__: how did you "crash" ubuntu
[04:00] <Bonez> is there a way to make Thunar my default file manager and remove nautilus?
[04:01] <Bonez> or is it possible to edit the "places" menu so that when I click "Home Folder" it launches it in Thunar instead of nautilus?
[04:01] <trev__> hit the hotrubute button because i didn't know :q! quiet
[04:02] <trev__> *rebute
[04:02] <trev__> *quit
[04:02] <foo> sharms: Thanks, but that doesn't help. hm
[04:02] <foo> sharms: I love the wiki, though. hmm
[04:02] <sharms> foo: it does help
[04:02] <sharms> !compile
[04:02] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:02] <TheAppleGeek> is there anything in the wiki on connecting to a secured wireless?
[04:03] <foo> sharms: Hm, I tried to read the readme for files I may need .. but there was none in there
[04:03] <trev__> yep
[04:03] <foo> hm
[04:03] <sharms> foo: did you install build-essential?
[04:03] <shiv> I have samsung printer and the cd with linux drivers how do I install it I am a newbie..plz help
[04:03] <trev__> it has a gui
[04:03] <Nekow42> trev__: You should be fine. Hitting the reset button on windows has the possibility of corrupting the filesystem. On ubuntu, the file system is a lot less easy to corrupt, since it journals all changes before making them (oversimplified explanation)
[04:03] <trev__> ok, thx, and is there a defrag utility for ubuntu
[04:03] <n3rdism> !temperature
[04:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about temperature - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:03] <sharms> trev__: doesn't need to be defragged
[04:03] <Nekow42> trev__: No linux filesystem needs defragging
[04:04] <kditty> am i the only one that has problems viewing youtube videos, i cant get any sound out of them if they do happen to play
[04:04] <trev__> that is awsome
[04:04] <n3rdism> younube! XD lololol
[04:04] <foo> sharms: er, no. Thanks. I apparently skimmed past that part.
[04:04] <sharms> foo: ;)
[04:05] <trev__> i have very blurry videos, much more so than in winows, is it my media player, it isflash and .avi
[04:05] <kditty> n3rdism, did i say something funny?
[04:05] <n3rdism> kditty: no im just messing around ^^
[04:05] <trev__> and my video driver is fine seeing i spent the last hour enabling it
[04:05] <torpedo|dog> shiv: go to System > Administration > Printers
[04:05] <sharms> trev__: is your resolution set correctly?
[04:05] <kditty> ok
[04:05] <trev__> i think it it
[04:05] <kditty> this is serious business ;x
[04:05] <trev__> *is
[04:05] <n3rdism> lol
[04:05] <kditty> i cant get sound out of any flash players really
[04:05] <trev__> yes it is
[04:05] <trev__> thats in the wiki
[04:06] <n3rdism> kditty: did you down load "adobe flash player 8"?
[04:06] <shiv> I did that it asks for the driver even though it recognises the name and brand of the printer
[04:06] <Se7h> n3rdism 8 ?
[04:06] <n3rdism> there is an 8 :o
[04:06] <TheAppleGeek> Adobe Shockwave just looks so weird in the preloader
[04:07] <Se7h> n3rdism where?
[04:07] <n3rdism> kditty: well im assuming you have an outdated flash player so go here http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[04:07] <torpedo|dog> shiv: so when you go to Step 2 of the printer dialog, and you find your model in the list, it won't let you go to "next">
[04:07] <TheAppleGeek> time to go back to trying to install whilst not screwing up my entire mac
[04:07] <n3rdism> se7h: www.adobe.com
[04:08] <Se7h> n3rdism thats version 7
[04:08] <kditty> ill try it n3rdism  thanks
[04:08] <shiv> I do not see my model :(
[04:08] <n3rdism> should be 9 ;o
[04:08] <shiv> its a samsung scx 4521
[04:08] <Se7h> its the latest for linux
[04:08] <kditty> i think automatix installed my version, im not sure though, its been a long time... how would i go about checking my version of flash?
[04:08] <n3rdism> adobe is retarded and confused me; my mistake lol
[04:09] <skavenge> uh thats version 7 you just posted a  link for
[04:09] <prophet> why is my clock always screwed up
[04:09] <n3rdism> 7 is latest flash player
[04:09] <n3rdism> for postix
[04:09] <prophet> i always set it to the correct time then when i restart its jacked uip
[04:09] <skavenge> you were just talking about 8
[04:09] <n3rdism> thats why i was confused
[04:09] <skavenge> ah
[04:09] <n3rdism> they were talking about the new flash player 9 and such
[04:09] <n3rdism> but its only windows and mac os
[04:10] <cycom> n3rdism: I bet it's because OSX uses UTC and windows uses local time.
[04:10] <cycom> n3rdism: not sure, but just a guess.  That and ubuntu updates with NTP
[04:10] <cycom> ya follow?
[04:10] <skavenge> your talking to the wrong person
[04:10] <n3rdism> i have a belly button
[04:10] <torpedo|dog> shiv: http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/#scx-4521f
[04:11] <cycom> skavenge: you're.
[04:11] <torpedo|dog> It's not easy, it doesn't look like.
[04:11] <skavenge> cycom: last i checked this wasn't english class
[04:11] <n3rdism> easy gents
[04:11] <skavenge> at least i can address my comments to the correct people
[04:11] <n3rdism> easy
[04:11] <vexmaster> hey guys!
[04:12] <n3rdism> hey vex
[04:12] <vexmaster> anyone have any problems with "make"
[04:12] <Se7h> vexmaster such as?
[04:12] <torpedo|dog> cycom: indeed, Windows sets your clock to Windows time.
[04:12] <torpedo|dog> *local time
[04:13] <vexmaster> it wont run whn i try to compile somthing
[04:13] <n3rdism> i found out how to get google talk on gaim; most people over looked this. but check this out if you're interested http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073
[04:13] <skavenge> vexmaster: likely you dont have build-essential installed, 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[04:13] <cycom> n3rdism: sorry, I was talking to the wrong person.
[04:13] <n3rdism> its cool cycom
[04:14] <vexmaster> kewl
[04:14] <vexmaster> kewl, im gonna install now
[04:14] <vexmaster> Thanks
[04:14] <IseeIsee> will gaim inform you if you have a receive a new gmail ?
[04:14] <n3rdism> iseelsee: nope :(
[04:14] <skavenge> np
[04:14] <IseeIsee> n3rdism: any alternative to that in linux ?
[04:15] <n3rdism> iseelsee: to gaim?
[04:15] <IseeIsee> no gmail notifier
[04:15] <kditty> n3rdism, still no sound
[04:15] <Shigun> K, so the person who was having the issue similar to me with Direct Rendering; I removed compiz and gnome-compiz, restarted, and it works fine now
[04:15] <n3rdism> kditty: are you sure you're sound drivers are configured?
[04:15] <n3rdism> iseelsee: thunderbird? lol
[04:15] <kditty> i can hear sound from all of my media players
[04:15] <cycom> skavenge: thanks for pointing it out.  I figured I'd return the favor, but if you're determined to use "your" instead of "you're", that's your prerogative.
[04:16] <kditty> n3rdism, i have sound in amorak and mplayer etc, just not through flash pages
[04:16] <Ninja> can anyone suggest a good CD burning program that converts formats too???
[04:16] <cycom> Ninja: like that rips to mp3?
[04:17] <cycom> Ninja: or the other way around?
[04:17] <n3rdism> kditty: try sudo alsaconf and make sure your alsa has your sound card configured
[04:17] <torpedo|dog> Ninja: Serpentine is a good CD burner.
[04:17] <Madpilot> Ninja, converts which formats to which other formats?
[04:17] <Ninja> torpedo|dog, that wont convert
[04:17] <kditty> n3rdism, sudo gedit?
[04:17] <Ninja> cycom, like mp3 to wav
[04:18] <torpedo|dog> Ninja: it's not supposed to, it's a CD burning application.
[04:18] <Ninja> torpedo|dog, i need one that converts too
[04:18] <Madpilot> Ninja, serpentine can produce audio CDs from mp3s
[04:18] <Ninja> Madpilot, how i dont see it in the options
[04:18] <chiefinnovator_> helo
[04:18] <cycom> Ninja: there are a few tuts out there for conversion utils.  It has been a while, but I would just convert all the mp3s to wavs.
[04:18] <Ninja> Madpilot, i need it to burn in wav
[04:18] <n3rdism> kditty: alsaconf isnt a file its an autoconfigure like netconfig
[04:18] <cycom> Ninja: seperately.
[04:18] <chiefinnovator_> is the the official ubuntu room?
[04:18] <n3rdism> yah chief
[04:19] <torpedo|dog> Ninja: do you need to burn it in WAV or do you need to burn it in CD format?
[04:19] <chiefinnovator_> sweet
[04:19] <cycom> Ninja: you can just convert them all.
[04:19] <bthornton> I'm looking at my xorg.conf file (Dapper) right now and and am noticing that there are many different InputDevices in the ServerLayout--particularly pointing devices.  There's "Configured Mouse", "stylus", "cursor", "eraser", and "Synaptics Touchpad".  Is this normal?
[04:19] <n3rdism> bthornton: yes
[04:19] <chiefinnovator_> question, I want to have a way to hold all of my passwords
[04:19] <kditty> sudo: alsaconf: command not found, thats what i get n3rdism
[04:19] <Ninja> torpedo|dog, i just need to to get converted so i can play it in a CD player
[04:19] <chiefinnovator_> and keep it secure, maybe encrypted
[04:19] <cycom> bthornton: for some reason, yes, but unless you have a tablet, I think you can disable the stylus, cursor, erasor, and all that.
[04:19] <plouj> if I want a bootable ubuntu USB stick, I just have to dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/usb right?
[04:19] <torpedo|dog> Ninja: just add the songs to your CD
[04:19] <chiefinnovator_> Is there an easy to use app for that?
[04:19] <Sola6662> can some1 help me i cant get sound thats intergraded into the motherborad
[04:19] <n3rdism> kditty: yah im sorry; im not sure if ubuntu has alsaconfig; you might have to ask someone else
[04:19] <Nekow42> bthornton: If by normal, you mean do I have it too, then yes
[04:19] <torpedo|dog> Ninja: and make sure you have the MP3 codecs installed
[04:19] <kditty> ok thanks
[04:20] <Ninja> torpedo|dog, `i dont think u understand what i wanna do
[04:20] <bthornton> Ok, the reason I ask is because my touchpad is acting really funny--particularly, it "clicks" and holds any time I touch the pad.  This means that I drag everything in random places.   It's a figment of your imagination.