[15:50] <co-XZist> PatrickDickey: sorry no I havent
[15:51] <PatrickDickey> That might be a good start then.
[15:51] <raptor67682> usr13: it is a laptop
[15:51] <raptor67682> and in to /sys/class/backlight
[15:51] <raptor67682> there is no file
[15:51] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: What filesystem is on the USB drive?
[15:52] <skorasaurus-alt> usr13, fat32
[15:52] <ikonia> seetu: how can you possibly expect to work on an bug if you have no idea how to approach it
[15:52] <ikonia> seetu: checking the bug details in the bug report would be a good starting point
[15:52] <co-XZist> PatrickDickey: THe exact message was Error:default_policy.sh does not support version
[15:53] <ikonia> it can often explain whats broken and how
[15:53] <co-XZist> PatrickDickey: THe exact message was Error:default_policy.sh does not support version
[15:53] <usr13> raptor67682: That's interesting.
[15:53] <usr13> raptor67682: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[15:53] <seetu> ikonia:Thank you
[15:53] <skorasaurus-alt> it's readable on the default ubuntu use on the livecd , but I'm copying files from an encrypted hard drive to the flash drive, which requires me to be logged in as the specified user.
[15:53] <skorasaurus-alt> hence, i'm trying to give permissions to read/write flash drive for that user.
[15:53] <ibran> Does ubuntu actually support multiple video cards?
[15:53] <raptor67682> debian linux 6.... it is a armada compaq very old
[15:54] <co-XZist> default:v2:i686:lib::none:<IP_ADDRESS>-generic-pae; make sure that the version is being correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[15:54] <raptor67682> I have checked into /proc/ and nothing about backlight
[15:54] <usr13> raptor67682: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight
[15:54] <ikonia> raptor67682: you're using debian 6 /
[15:54] <co-XZist> sorry if i sent that twice
[15:55] <mwn> I removed apache2 from my system a week ago, and installed nginx, now, whenever I boot up, nginx starts automatically and I don't want this to happen. nginx starts whenever I log in and I have to do "killall nginx" to make it stop, how can I make nginx NOT startup when I log in?
[15:55] <PatrickDickey> co-XZist: You have to use the open-source version of the ATI Driver. The error means that the kernel is too new for the driver you're trying to install.
[15:55] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: There are no permission limits to the fat32 filesystem, so it must be the mount point has wrong permission or user.  mount |grep /dev/sd??
[15:55] <raptor67682> ikonia: well; reviving the machine or looking what is inside
[15:55] <PatrickDickey> co-XZist: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101198/what-is-this-error-when-trying-to-install-ati-video-driver
[15:55] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: In other words where is it mounted.  Issue command  mount
[15:55] <ikonia> raptor67682: ok, so #debian should be the correct channel, and you know this as you're already asking in #debian
[15:55] <co-XZist> okies will check it out ..thanks
[15:56] <ikonia> raptor67682: please keep debian questions out of this channel and in #debian, thanks
[15:56] <mwn> make it stop, how can I make nginx NOT startup when I log in?
[15:56] <mwn> I removed apache2 from my system a week ago, and installed nginx, now, whenever I boot up, nginx starts automatically and I don't want this to happen. nginx starts whenever I log in and I have to do "killall nginx" to make it stop, how can I make nginx NOT startup when I log in?
[15:56] <mwn> I removed apache2 from my system a week ago, and installed nginx, now, whenever I boot up, nginx starts automatically and I don't want this to happen. nginx starts whenever I log in and I have to do "killall nginx" to make it stop, how can I make nginx NOT startup when I log in?
[15:56] <FloodBot1> mwn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:56] <ikonia> mwn: please stop spamming
[15:57] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: In other words, you probably need to chown the mount point, but let's look and see what it is now.
[15:57] <skorasaurus-alt> usr13, http://pastebin.ca/2441275
[15:58] <raptor67682> thanks for hte debugging so my kernel has no driver for backlight
[16:00] <schultza> For mwm when he comes back. "sudo update-rc.d -f nginx disable".
[16:00] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: Look at: "ls -l /media/ubuntu/nitro"  &  "ls -ld /media/ubuntu/nitro" & "ls -ld /media/ubuntu"
[16:02] <skorasaurus-alt> aha, i think i got it usr13
[16:02] <skorasaurus-alt> i tried copying my files from my encrypted drive as root to the flash drive.
[16:02] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: Look at: ls -l /media/ubuntu/nitro >permissions.txt;ls -ld /media/ubuntu/nitro >>permissions.txt;ls -ld /media/ubuntu >>permissions.txt;pastebinit permissions.txt #And send URL if you need us to look too.
[16:02] <skorasaurus-alt> and wait, not working.
[16:03] <ndyakov> good day :)
[16:03] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: Ok, there you go.  chown -R skorasaurus /media/ubuntu/nitro/
[16:04] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: Oh, wait.  That's not it because it is fat32
[16:04] <skorasaurus-alt> usr13, right.
[16:06] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: Must be the mount point
[16:06] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt:  ls -ld /media/ubuntu/nitro >permissions.txt;ls -ld /media/ubuntu >>permissions.txt;pastebinit permissions.txt #And send URL if you need us to look too.
[16:06] <skorasaurus-alt> usr13, updated the pastebin
[16:06] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: Probably need to do chmod 755 /media/ubuntu;chmod 755 /media/ubuntu/nitro
[16:07] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: (Not sure why it wouldn't be correct permissons already but...)
[16:07] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: (We have now way of knowing unless you tell us.)
[16:08] <co-XZist> PatrickDickey: So you are saying that that I have to use the built in driver ? Or is there another that I can install ?
[16:08] <PatrickDickey> co-XZist: If the built-in is the open source one, then that's your option. Or you have to use an older version of Ubuntu (which isn't recommended).
[16:08] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: But, why do you need users to access the files from liveCD in the first place?
[16:09] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: http://pastebin.ca/2441275 looks same as before.
[16:09] <syntac> i have two monitors, but their physical positions are different than graphical (i have to scroll to the right on my right monitor to get over to my left monitor)
[16:09] <syntac> where can i change this?
[16:09] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: But if it is one line, you can just send it here, no need for pastebin
[16:10] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: You only need pastebin if it is multiple lines or very long.
[16:10] <PatrickDickey> syntac: in Display options maybe? You should be able to choose which one is the primary monitor.
[16:10] <syntac> PatrickDickey, i'm using xmonad. in unity it works fine
[16:11] <ibran> Is anyone here using/know how to setup multiple graphics cards?
[16:11] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: If you were to tell us your end goal, we might be albe to help you better.
[16:12] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: If the goal is just to backup the files, just do it, check to make sure they are there and you are good to go, (there are no user or file permission issues on the fat32 filesystem).
[16:13] <syntac> PatrickDickey, i got it, used xrandr
[16:13] <PatrickDickey> syntac: Glad to hear that you got it worked out. Honestly, I'd never heard of xmonad until now, so now I'm looking at it.
[16:15] <usr13> skorasaurus-alt: When a vfat device is mounted rw, the mount point is all that might limit access. [/FYI]
[16:15] <zykotick9> syntac: personally, i'm a fan of arandr for a fairly light gui front end to xrandr
[16:17] <grakovne> Morning!
[16:18] <InterWeb> What is best editor for python ?
[16:18] <sam113101> vim
[16:18] <map> i lie nano
[16:19] <teliov19> komodo is good
[16:19] <ibran> InterWeb: define best
[16:19] <map> although noone else seems to
[16:19] <grakovne> Geany anyway!
[16:19] <ibran> InterWeb: do you need things like autocompletion ?
[16:19] <map> ah
[16:19] <map> basic editor wont do that
[16:20] <InterWeb> irban , yes
[16:20] <map> What about kate - i used to like that
[16:20] <map> dunno if it's still included in KDE? although this is gnome version
[16:20] <PatrickDickey> I'd say it depends on what you're doing. Komodo is good, but if I remember right, it's not free. Otherwise any text editor will do the job.
[16:20] <map> used to use Kate for writing code at uni
[16:21] <ibran> InterWeb: pycharm seems popular. it has autocomplete, integrated debugger and it can also read and autocomplete your database schema. Are you after a full IDE or just an editor?
[16:21]  * PatrickDickey uses nano with code highlighting, gedit, or notepad++ in wine.
[16:21] <map> ya i like notepad++
[16:21] <map> i like nano whys everyone love vim so much?
[16:21] <jarope> hi all wonder if I could get some help
[16:21] <jarope> I am running saucy and seem to have a xorg/nvidia issue
[16:22] <grakovne> notepad++ is not GNU way. Why not vim or geany?
[16:22] <teliov19> there is  a free version of komodo (komodo edit),
[16:22] <teliov19> vim is cool tho
[16:22] <ibran> notepad++ is open source
[16:22] <InterWeb> Is there anything to add auto-completion to vim ?
[16:22] <teliov19> that would be nice, auto complete to vim'
[16:22] <ibran> in fact i think npp is gnu licenced? not sure on that though. i think it uses the same editor lib that sublime is based on
[16:22] <jarope> I think the problem is I ran nvidia-settings and after reboot just get either the low graphics mode box OR can login but get just a black screen.  this is what I have at the moment using ctl+alt+_t still boots the terminal
[16:23] <jarope> and from there I was able to run xchat
[16:23] <map> so why no nano again why just vim
[16:23] <grakovne> Nowhy. If you like it - use it
[16:24] <InterWeb> map , Does it have auto-complection?
[16:24] <ibran> map: Nano's OK but lacks some of the advanced features of vim. also vim is part of all *nix distros so you wont ever not have it. Of course, use wahtever editor you prefer
[16:24] <jarope> I am guessing I need to remove xorg.conf or similar? but not sure as in X11 there are only the .backup and .failsafe files
[16:24] <POVaddct> InterWeb: try ctrl-p and ctrl-n in vim while typing a word
[16:25] <ibran> nano doesnt have a repl though, that's a problem for me. i need a repl.
[16:25] <PatrickDickey> InterWeb: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=850 pydiction maybe? (Autocompletion for python in vim)
[16:25] <InterWeb> PatrickDickey, Thank you
[16:25] <InterWeb> POVaddct, Thank you
[16:25] <PatrickDickey> InterWeb: No problem.
[16:25] <ibran> well i dont "need" a repl but it slows me up a lot, missing it
[16:26] <PatrickDickey> vim is old-school (because it's basically always been around).
[16:27] <jhutchins> WTF is a "repl"?
[16:28] <jarope_> so any saucy graphics ppl able to help?
[16:28] <ibran> jhutchins: read eval print loop i.e. interpreter. e.g. C++ repl makes wriign c++ easier for me, etc
[16:28] <usr13> map: notepad?  I don't know about that, (most of us here are Ubuntu users).  As to the nano vs vim, well, it's a matter of opinion, some think nano is more user friendly, others think vi is more feature rich and so it's just a matter of opinion.
[16:28] <PatrickDickey> jarope_: You probably want the #ubuntu+1 channel for saucy questions.
[16:28] <jarope_> PatrickDickey, thanks
[16:29] <map> yea someone else said notepad++ using wine
[16:29] <jhutchins> ibran: 'splains why I don't recognize it.  I did a lot of my programming on punch cards.
[16:29] <InterWeb> How do I can add interpreter to vim ?
[16:29] <map> ;]
[16:29] <jhutchins> InterWeb: You may be interested in emacs.  I believe it has those options.
[16:29] <bl4ckdu5t> when I do pm-hibernate most times and I turn my PC back on, it takes time for it to be accessible
[16:30] <dr_willis> emacs has everything.
[16:30] <usr13> map: I use vi / vim  and am quite happy with it, don't need notepad but am not opposed to nano either.
[16:30] <zykotick9> PatrickDickey: re:vim, actually vi is part of POSIX so it's on every "unix-like" system, emacs is not.  but yes, it's been around forever too ;)
[16:30] <jhutchins> bl4ckdu5t: Are you suspending to disk?
[16:30] <InterWeb> jhutchins, I read somewhere that It is hard to learn :/
[16:30] <map> ah
[16:30] <map> i always preferred nano
[16:30] <map> guess its just preference
[16:31] <usr13> map: vimtutor may change your mind.
[16:31] <AvgvaTest> hi
[16:31]  * zykotick9 +1 on "vimtutuor" tutorial.
[16:31] <dr_willis> nano is a pen-knife     vi is a big  swiss army knife
[16:31] <gordonjcp> ed is the standard editor!
[16:31] <map> zzz almost work time sheesh
[16:31] <dr_willis> emacs is the kitchen silverware and junk drawer
[16:31] <PatrickDickey> I agree map. I like the simplicity of moving the cursor and then editing the line that nano has. I'm sure there are ways to make vim work like that, but it's standard in nano.
[16:32] <gordonjcp> jhutchins: punch cards, y'say
[16:32] <gordonjcp> jhutchins: which machine?
[16:32] <usr13> good analogy dr_willis
[16:32] <map> ya the simplicity is for me :)
[16:32] <InterWeb> another thing , I wanted to install pydictaion for vim but I can't find vimrc file , Where is that on ubuntu?
[16:32] <dr_willis> !info fte
[16:32] <gordonjcp> I use gedit for pretty much everything these days
[16:33] <Obi1> hello
[16:33] <dr_willis> InterWeb:   use      locate vimrc
[16:33] <PatrickDickey> InterWeb: It's in your home directory. the filename is .vimrc (if you've created one).
[16:33] <zykotick9> InterWeb: try ~/.vimrc it might not be there by default?
[16:33] <dr_willis> system wide  in /etc/  id say
[16:34] <InterWeb> that is not in my home folder ,
[16:34]  * PatrickDickey thankfully I never had to deal with punch cards. But I've heard enough horror stories about them from COBOL instructors...
[16:34] <InterWeb> I have just .vim in my home
[16:34] <Obi1> how can I install Gnome 2.0  desktop on 12.04 ubuntu
[16:34] <dr_willis> each user can have a.   .vimrc
[16:34] <PatrickDickey> InterWeb: You can create one then.
[16:35] <ibran> well assembler is mostly similiar to punch cards, not sure why there are so many horror stories.
[16:35] <dr_willis> Obi1:  use the classic mode stuff
[16:35] <dr_willis> !nounity
[16:35] <InterWeb> PatrickDickey, I have a .vimrc in my etc/vim , Do I need to creat another one in home ?
[16:35] <PatrickDickey> InterWeb: nope. copy that one to your home, and edit it to whatever you need.
[16:36] <PatrickDickey> ibran: The horror stories were things like having 50 punch cards, and dropping them while you're walking down the hall.
[16:36] <Obi1> hi willis
[16:36] <usr13> Obi1: Ever tried xfce?
[16:36] <zykotick9> InterWeb: i hope your /etc/vim/vimrc is better then mine... (it might be! different systems)
[16:37] <usr13> Obi1: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop   #Try it, you'll like it.
[16:37] <PatrickDickey> Obi1:  Or LXDE (lubuntu-desktop)?
[16:37] <ibran> PatrickDickey: They get mixed up? Wsa it possible to label them with a pen?
[16:37] <Obi1> i did try  all i love gnome 2.0
[16:37] <dr_willis> gnome 2 is dead.
[16:37] <PatrickDickey> ibran: That's the suggestion the instructor made. Draw a diagonal line across the top of the cards. That way if you drop them, you can put them back in order.
[16:38] <dr_willis> theres fallback/vlassic modes or other desktops to try
[16:38] <jhutchins> gordonjcp: Y'know, I'm not entirely sure.  Pretty sure we fed some to a 370, but the one that did Fortran I don't even remember if I knew.
[16:38] <ibran> so these were horror stories about human laziness or incompetence, rather than actul punchcard tech?
[16:38] <usr13> Obi1: gnome 2 is no more.  Try xfce
[16:39] <usr13> Obi1: What do you mean, you did try all?
[16:39] <zykotick9> Obi1: gnome2 is "dead", move on...
[16:39] <PatrickDickey> ibran: If I remember right, sometimes it was hit and miss whether they worked. If the card punching machine didn't punch the holes completely, you could have issues. Or just the fact that if you had an error in your program, you had to repunch every card.
[16:39] <Obi1> i don't like xfce , KDE, Cinamon is ok
[16:40] <ibran> pucgcards before my time. i started with 28 inch disks and tape drives
[16:40] <PatrickDickey> Obi1: You could always use something like Unity with Docky.
[16:40] <zykotick9> Obi1: <ot> i "feel" ya!  gnome2 was my fav DE of all times.  i'm sad about it too, but i've moved on.  you should as well ;)
[16:40] <ibran> however i do build mechanical memory circuits in minecraft, which are basically gigantic jacard looms ;-)
[16:41] <Obi1> UNITY is the worst desktop evoroment to tell some1 to switch from Windows is hard for windows user to work on it
[16:41] <PatrickDickey> ibran: Everything I had to do was all on a mainframe.  Well except for the AppleSoft BASIC stuff. That was done with 3.5" floppies and 5 1/4" floppies.
[16:41] <Obi1> i help people to switch to Linux
[16:41] <dr_willis> so do i. most have no issues with unity here.
[16:41] <dr_willis> or i set them up with lubuntu
[16:42] <skorasaurus-alt> hi usr13, back, I had to help out my dad for a few minutes. my current hard drive, encrypted with ecryptfs , is beginning to fail, it has a couple hundred bad sectors.
[16:42] <ibran> I know i asked before but that was 1/2 hour ago: does anyone know how to get multiple graphics cards working with ubuntu?
[16:42] <PatrickDickey> Obi1:  Then have them try LXDE. It's almost the exact same look as XP's Classic (or Vista and 7's Classic).
[16:42] <skorasaurus-alt> unfortunately, my backup drive was last backed up about a couple weeks ago.
[16:42] <skorasaurus-alt> and there are a few files on my hard drive that I'd like to rescue which were recently modified.
[16:42] <jhutchins> "Smart" guys didn't number their card because that gave them extra space for code.  Eventually they got dropped, and they discovered that numbering was worth the loss of space.  I did Fortran, Cobol, and RPG II/III on them.
[16:42] <skorasaurus-alt> (firefox profile, etc).
[16:42] <ikonia> ibran: in what way "get working"
[16:42] <dr_willis> ibran:  optimus stuff? or 2 seperate cards in a desktop?
[16:42] <Obi1> brb
[16:42] <jhutchins> Actually, COBOL had just moved off of them but it's still a positional language.
[16:43] <ibran> ikonia: black screen if the second card is inserted. it starts up fine but when gdm? lightdm? (dont remember which one ubuntu uses) screen goes back
[16:44] <jhutchins> ibran: You mean multi-monitor, or laptop multi-drive intel/radeon?
[16:44] <skorasaurus-alt> so, unfortunately, with ecryptfs, I have to use the same user name to access the files which created under that user.
[16:44] <ikonia> ibran: how are you trying to use them, seperate cards, sli/x-fire, etc etc
[16:44] <nabblet> hi, how can i change that grey loging background in ubuntu 12.10?
[16:44] <ibran> jhutchins: I mean the machine has two identical nvidia graphics cards
[16:44] <ibran> ikonia: it's an SLI configuration
[16:44] <skorasaurus-alt> so, under livecd, I created the same user name, I have access to the files.
[16:44] <ikonia> ibran: that's not going to work
[16:45] <nabblet> i tried different solutions, but they didn't get me any further
[16:45] <skorasaurus-alt> but I need to copy them to another drive but that is where i'm stuck.
[16:45] <ibran> ikonia: Ubuntu doesn't support SLI?
[16:45] <ikonia> ibran: linux doesn't really - nvidia keep trying to add/update it in the propritary drivers, but it really causes too many problems
[16:46] <PatrickDickey> skorasaurus-alt: Have you tried chrooting into the installation on the hard drive?
[16:46] <PatrickDickey> skorasaurus-alt: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/ (not exactly your situation, but it could work)
[16:47] <ibran> ikonia: Do you know of any good resources used by tinkerers who are prepared to invest some time into fiddlign with their systems to get that working?
[16:47] <jhutchins> ibran: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53966
[16:47] <jhutchins> ibran: Incompatible with unity and some other DEs.
[16:47] <skorasaurus-alt> PatrickDickey, intersting, i have not.
[16:47] <skorasaurus-alt> i'll look into it.
[16:48] <PatrickDickey> skorasaurus-alt: It's worth a read, if nothing else. I've had to do it to update different operating systems on my computer before (Fedora from Ubuntu, etc).
[16:48] <ibran> jhutchins: this link says it is dual screen (dual head), i am wanting single screen with 2 cards (for 3d grpahics  performance) - would this link be relevant?
[16:51] <dr_willis> arch linux wiki may have some sli information
[16:51] <ibran> dr_willis: thanks will look
[16:52] <dr_willis> i dont find sli worth the effort. ;-)
[16:53] <jhutchins> ibran: I know of no condition where that works.
[16:54] <jhutchins> ibran: ... except of course SLI.
[16:55] <ibran> jhutchins: Yes it is SLI. works fine on windows . however  i guess linux driver support isn't quite as good. I'll ask around on the nvidia forums.
[16:59] <mydog2> hi.. trying to connect to an ubuntu server to do a scp copying from a fedora to the ubuntu..
[16:59] <mydog2> is this the "right" irc for questions..
[16:59] <mydog2> i can ssh into the box..
[16:59] <mydog2> when i scp, i get a lost connection
[17:00] <mydog2> the ubuntu is running on a vm
[17:02] <neta> how can i install steam in lubuntu? i don't find it in the softwer center
[17:03] <martinfletcher> Hey all
[17:04] <martinfletcher> I am currently having trouble installing Ubuntu 13 .04 on my desktop
[17:04] <ARW0> what the prob ?
[17:04] <sethj> grahamsavage, did you ever get your problem resolved?
[17:05] <martinfletcher> I am in live cd modem to eval 13.04 but only a black screen and mouse pointer is displayed
[17:05] <ARW0> martinfletcher: what graphic card you have ?
[17:05] <kostkon> neta, it should be there. if not, in software centre, select Edit -> Software Sources, then in the 3rd party software tab enable the Partner repository and try again.
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | martinfletcher
[17:06] <martinfletcher> I have googled the hell out of it and it appears to be a compiz error, although I have never heard of this so not quite sure
[17:07] <linuxuz3r> how do i update gnome 3 installation
[17:08] <jhutchins> ibran: I know there's a lot of work done using ganged GPUs in Linux, but it's mostly specialty stuff where a team is writing their own code for a specific project.
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> linuxguy101, to what?
[17:08] <martinfletcher> ARW0: nvidia GeForce fx 5200
[17:08] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, i have gnome 3 install i dont know the exact version but it gives me minor problems
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> martinfletcher, check the nomodeset link.
[17:09] <linuxuz3r> im just wondering how to update my gnome 3 installation
[17:09] <ibran> martinfletcher: that card will need nomodeset, see the link from wilee-nilee
[17:09] <AvgvaTest> hi
[17:09] <ibran> martinfletcher: BTW it's a dark purple screen not a black one ;-)
[17:09] <martinfletcher> Looking now
[17:09] <martinfletcher> Mine is black
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> linuxguy101, Did you install the gnome-shell, this is ubuntu right?
[17:10] <AvgvaTest> hi
[17:10] <kostkon> !hi | AvgvaTest
[17:10] <kostkon> damn
[17:10] <jhutchins> ibran: DreamWorks and Pixar both render on Linux.
[17:10] <kostkon> :/
[17:11] <kostkon> jhutchins, and weta
[17:12] <ibran> jhutchins: thanks for trying to help, much appreciated. however probaby want to be looking at SLI not Gpu Computing
[17:12] <AvgvaTest> hi
[17:13] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, yes i installed gnome-shell
[17:13] <linuxuz3r> i think its more then gnomeshell thats the problem
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, Ubuntu? What release, and did you add a PPA, three questions here.
[17:14] <linuxuz3r> its not a ppa
[17:14] <linuxuz3r> 12.04
[17:14] <linuxuz3r> im still supported right
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, I can't help you, your not reading these questions.
[17:14] <kostkon> linuxuz3r, yes. even if you have added a ppa
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> kostkon, PPA's are not supported here.
[17:15] <kostkon> wilee-nilee, said who?
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> !ppa
[17:15] <kostkon> wilee-nilee, probably you are misreading the "unsupported third-party packages"
[17:15] <linuxuz3r> whats the name of the command that upgrades a certain package
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, There ia not one per-say, you just run regular updates
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> is*
[17:16] <linuxuz3r> oh
[17:16] <linuxuz3r> so apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, yes
[17:18] <linuxuz3r> ok booting to ubuntu now
[17:22] <Dakota> i am at the end of my rope with libvirt-dnsmasq. how do i get it the heck off of port 53 so i can run nsd?
[17:22] <mkanyicy> q
[17:23] <Dakota> no matter what i change its either binding to port 53 or port 22... both of which are not negotiable
[17:25] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, im dist upgrading
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, Meaning using dist-upgrade?
[17:28] <dennis> Hello everybody, how can I make script that presses return and nothing else?
[17:33] <PatrickDickey> dennis, why do you want a script that presses return?
[17:34] <dennis> PatrickDickey: I have a button here that works as a tiny keyboard: it presses the superkey+R and then ecobutton
[17:35] <dennis> It's a Windows thingey that let your PC go in a deep standby with a press on the button
[17:36] <dennis> I want to trigger the 'Run program' utility in xfce to trigger a script called Ecobutton to let that script press return
[17:37] <dennis> Because I find the return key an 'activation' key and I would like to trigger it from a big button
[17:37] <PatrickDickey> Interesting. So, basically your button would call the script, and it would put your computer into standby mode?
[17:38] <dennis> PatrickDickey: Yes
[17:38] <dennis> But I want it for other purposes
[17:38] <Gorrtack> Hi all
[17:38] <dennis> But I guess you don know how to write the script... :D
[17:38] <Gorrtack> are there any alternatives for sam broadcaster in Ubuntu?
[17:39] <PatrickDickey> Nope. Sorry. I thought maybe I'd be able to give you an alternative to that though. You might want to check in the #bash channel if you're looking for a bash script to do it, or #python if you want it in python.
[17:40] <dennis> Gorrtack: http://alternativeto.net/software/sam-broadcaster/
[17:40] <nzdreamer> Hello everyone.  I'm looking for support after trying a live usb ubuntu Linux distro and now am having trouble booting back into windows 8.
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> nzdreamer, Did you change anything in the bios?
[17:42] <dennis> wilee-nilee: I don't want to be over-preceise, but Win8 pc's run on EFI
[17:42] <Gorrtack> dennis: thank u. I tried to configure IDJC, but can't link pulseaudio with jackd =(
[17:42] <nzdreamer> Thanks for the reply.  I have a machine with a UEFI bios.  I used the boot manager at start up to select the usb drive and selected the UEFI portion to start ubuntu
[17:43] <dennis> Gorrtack: Ask in ubuntu_studio
[17:43] <kostkon> Gorrtack, check out AirTime
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> nzdreamer, W8 has a hybrid hibernate, did you shutdown completely to get to this boot manager?
[17:43] <Gorrtack> kostkon: AirTime? What is this?
[17:43] <dennis> Gorrtack: I had a problem with recording sound and they gave me a lot of hints
[17:44] <kostkon> Gorrtack, radio management and broadcasting app.
[17:44] <linuxuz3r> gnome becomes unresponsive if i click on an icon it takes a while to get highlighted. and when i switch to a different window it takes a while to get focus. how do i fix this?
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, Is the hardware up to the task of running ubuntu?
[17:45] <kostkon> Gorrtack, another easy option is mixxx. it supports broadcasting over the net
[17:45] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, yes
[17:46] <nzdreamer> Yes I have tried to start using several different ways (restart, turn off computer completely, turn of completely and pull the plug) but none of them seem to launch windows correctly.  I will get the Auto repair and have tried all the options including advanced options.  I have even rebuilt the MBR and run chech disk.
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, You have the correct graphic drivers?
[17:46] <Gorrtack> kostkon: that's what I need! broatcast my skype, player and microphone to the remote Icecast2 server
[17:47] <PatrickDickey> nzdreamer: So you installed ubuntu then?
[17:48] <neopsyche> hi. can anyone help me rsync server?
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> nzdreamer, What I wonder is if you shutdown completelt to run the ubuntu if you had it in this hibernate that would be a problem, and actually since you have not installed ubuntu just booted it this is a windows problem, so you might ask on ##windows as well.
[17:48] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, yes do i need to upgrade the graphics drivers
[17:48] <neopsyche> not sure on some commands.. im a windoze refugee
[17:49] <neopsyche> found tutorial http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-use-rsync-transfer-mirror-files-directories.html
[17:49] <neopsyche> also.. how to remote ssh from linux? in windows I use putty
[17:49] <dennis> I just made a script in the path /bin/ecobutton, but when I enter the command ecobutton, the terminal says '-bash: /bin/ecobutton: Access denied'
[17:49] <sam113101> neopsyche: using ssh
[17:49] <dennis> neopsyche: type ssh in terminal
[17:49] <neopsyche> ok..
[17:49] <neopsyche> can I rsync?
[17:50] <ocooel> Looking for help regarding upgrade to 12.04.3 + 13.04 HWE.
[17:50] <suhas_> hiii guys
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, upgrade meaning, what you have is maybe the problem and your sure, or a guess, it helps if we know your reasoning.
[17:50] <suhas_> hii
[17:51] <neopsyche> ssh says no route to host
[17:51] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, a guess
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, you have to go through 12.10 basically, the nupgrade manager will do it if you go to the software sources and set it to all upgrades
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, 12.04 is supported till 2017 though are you sure this is the best plan?
[17:53] <ocooel> wilee-nilee: Doesn't it just upgrade the kernel from 3.5 to 3.8..?
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, No, apps will be upgraded and the system in places, and the support time changes
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, the kernel will go to 3.8 yes.
[17:55] <nzdreamer> Oh interesting though about booting from a hyb state to run ubuntu from a live USB...
[17:55] <nzdreamer> What can I check to see if this was the case?
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> nzdreamer, I would ask in ##windows this is a windows issue really, you have to be registered with freenode though I believe.
[17:57] <kostkon> ocooel, instructions are here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[17:57] <neopsyche> dennis: no route to host
[17:57] <ocooel> wilee-nilee: that sux.
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> nzdreamer, If someone knows here they will probably answer, I would just like to see you get the best help is all.
[17:57] <kostkon> ocooel, you don't need to dist upgrade. just check the wiki page
[17:57] <dennis> neopsyche: I only have little knowledge about ssh. Try the channel #ssh
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, This is nothing new, has been this way since the first release.
[17:59] <nzdreamer> Thank you for the help.  I will try to find my answers at ##windows.  Good bye
[17:59] <nzdreamer> exit
[18:00] <Willdude123> How could I set up something to stream torrents downloaded via transmission web interface to VLC medía player on my PC (using my ubuntu server)
[18:00] <ocooel> kostkon: I've read this. It's where I got the info from. There are no instructions on how to install manually. It says it's not available just through upgrades. This is what I need instruction on
[18:00] <Willdude123> Doesn't have to be automatic
[18:00] <ocooel> kostkon: It's not as simple as running linux-headers-generic-lts-raring etc, is it..?
[18:01] <kostkon> ocooel, it says "For example to install the Quantal hardware enablement packages in Precise, please run the following command:" etc, replace quantal with raring
[18:02] <kostkon> ocooel, it is. what else would you need?
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, You want to notice the warnings on the ennoblement stack, read very carefully.
[18:02] <anonymousX7X> quit
[18:03] <sere> is it possible to a playlist sync rhythmbox or banshee with a andriod phonein ubuntu 12.4.3? i can mount it it and get rhythmbox to see it but it wont sync for some reason
[18:03] <ocooel> kostkon: That is all. Will raring supersede precise..?
[18:03] <kostkon> ocooel, it will update your grub automatically
[18:03] <kostkon> ocooel, yes
[18:03] <Willdude123> So I want to stream downloaded torrents to VLC
[18:04] <ocooel> kostkon: Meaning I lose the point of having precise..?
[18:04] <PatrickDickey> Willdude123: have you looked into something like mdlna? (might be spelled a bit differently)
[18:04] <Willdude123> Might do. VLC might be able to run headlessly.
[18:04] <kostkon> ocooel, you still have precise, but with the updated kernel and X. that is all
[18:04] <linuxuz3r> for future reference does official upgrade breaks your ubuntu installation?
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, So what is your reasoning on the raring kernel needs?
[18:05] <PatrickDickey> linuxuz3r: It shouldn't. But if you're upgrading a system that doesn't meet the hardware requirements, it might.
[18:06] <ocooel> wilee-nilee: Odd number kernel versions are experimental and even one are stable.
[18:06] <Ampelbein> linuxuz3r: In very rare cases, updates have been breaking existing installations. But the issue were always detected very fast and either the upgrades pulled or a fix issued.
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, Really I have been using ubuntu for 8 years and never heard that, source please.
[18:08] <PatrickDickey> wilee-nilee: I've seen that on some kernel forums. But, I think it's more the minor build number than anything else.
[18:08] <xyz123> is there such an online tool which will calculate and tell you what partition is going to be what size based on your hd size?
[18:08] <xyz123> :)
[18:08] <seventhsamuari> Hi I'm looking for a good youtube tutorial on the terminal for beginners
[18:08] <dman777_alter> does the Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) support ecc ssh keys by default installation?
[18:08] <seventhsamuari> i need to modify my gurb
[18:08] <seventhsamuari> *grub
[18:09] <BluesKaj> ocooel, , that's a new one on me too , never heard that ever mentioned about stable/unstable kernel numbers before , can you give us the source of your info ?
[18:09] <Ampelbein> wilee-nilee: It's been changed in 2004, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning#Odd-numbered_versions_for_development_releases
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> PatrickDickey, Sounds like opinions, and not hardly factual
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> Ampelbein, Between the 1.0 and the 2.6.x series,
[18:10] <Ampelbein> wilee-nilee: Yes.
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> Ampelbein, hardly relevant
[18:10] <silvia> Alguien habla español ?
[18:10] <IdleOne> !es
[18:11] <Ampelbein> wilee-nilee: Well, the kernel *USED* that versioning scheme, sorry for trying to give you information.
[18:11] <silvia> Ok thanks
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> Ampelbein, Did this help the user of just confuse issues.
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> or*
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> the kernels in ubuntu are modified anyway
[18:12] <pfifo> hinguys
[18:12] <Ampelbein> wilee-nilee: You said you never heard the odd-even versioning scheme, I just wanted to show you that the kernel used to use it. Forgive me.
[18:12] <PatrickDickey> http://www.linfo.org/kernel_version_numbering.html It used to be this way (odd numbers are development) but not anymore.
[18:13] <seventhsamuari> is there a ubuntu channel specifically for beginners?
[18:13] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, thanks its working now
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> seventhsamuari, used to be it is here now.
[18:14] <linuxuz3r> i fixed the problem
[18:14] <seventhsamuari> wilee-nilee, thanks i am looking for a good video tutorial on the terminal for beginners
[18:14] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, thanks
[18:14] <linuxuz3r> wilee-nilee, thanks
[18:14] <linuxuz3r> you should say np
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> ocooel, This reasong is not correct and leaves you vulnerable to breaking the setup and not getting support, just a heads up is all.
[18:15] <sere> is it possible to a playlist sync rhythmbox or banshee with a andriod phonein ubuntu 12.4.3? i can mount it it and get rhythmbox to see it but it wont sync for some reason
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> sere, Works in 13.04 with rhythmbox just setting the edit-preferences-music-music files are located in.
[18:19] <dman777_alter> i gues that is a no
[18:19] <pfifo> DNS setup is such bullcrap lately
[18:20] <sere> wilee-nilee: i tried it on my 13.04 box but getting the same errors.. did you have to set up any udev rules?
[18:20] <ocooel> kostkon, wilee-nilee, even when checking kernel.org the stable versions are all even and EOL or rc are odd
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> seventhsamuari, Not sure on videos, there are beginners books, I forget the exact names though.
[18:21] <PatrickDickey> seventhsamuari: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Using+the+terminal+in+linux
[18:21] <Ampelbein> ocooel: The next stable kernel will be 3.11
[18:21] <PatrickDickey> The first one says it's a beginners video.
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> sere, Nope but it may depend on the android version, I suspect, not sure of the problem.
[18:21] <seventhsamuari> PatrickDickey, thanks!
[18:21] <PatrickDickey> seventhsamuari: no problem.
[18:21] <dman777_alter> hey, how come the open ssh that comes with ubuntu does not have ecc but there is a utility called seccure that does?
[18:22] <ikonia> dman777_alter: ecc as in error correction ?
[18:22] <dman777_alter> ikonia: no, elliptic curve crypto
[18:22] <ocooel> Ampelbein: Can't see 3.8 there anyway. Maybe it's not worth updating HWE and just upgrade 14.04
[18:23] <sere> wilee-nilee: i can mount it if i choose to open folder so i was thinking it wasnt a udev issue.. here are the error i have been getting.. if you dont mind checking it out http://paste.ubuntu.com/6048617/
[18:23] <ikonia> dman777_alter: is there a reason it should be inluded ? is it a build time option or a module you can bolt on (I'm not aware of it)
[18:24] <ikonia> ocooel: why are you trying to change your kernel version ?
[18:24] <kostkon> ocooel, the raring hwe will install 3.8 http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/linux-generic-lts-raring
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> sere, Hw are you getting the phone to show on 12.04 I had to add a ppa to see a mtp device?
[18:26] <kostkon> ocooel, if you download 12.04.3 and do a fresh install you'll get 3.8 anyway.
[18:27] <ocooel> kostkon: That's what I'm trying to do without the fresh install part.
[18:27] <kostkon> ocooel, then.... just.... do it.....
[18:27] <Ampelbein> dman777_alter: "ssh-keygen -t ecdsa -b 521" works here on Ubuntu, what ECC support are you missing?
[18:27] <kostkon> ocooel, instructions are there. just replace "quantal" with "raring"
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> sere, gMTP did see it but not very useful
[18:28] <ikonia> Ampelbein: ah, so it's just one of the cyphers
[18:29] <ocooel> Thanks.
[18:29] <Ampelbein> ikonia: Yes, it's ECDSA is one of the possible cyphers to use with ECC.
[18:30] <ikonia> Ampelbein: so a simple build time option, that from your test, is enabled
[18:31] <balrog000> hello guys i'm just new on ubuntu and i search a very easy tutorial to make a vpn connection please (sorry for my english)
[18:32] <ikonia> !vpn | balrog000
[18:32] <sere> wilee-nilee: it just worked out of the box.. but i would get some of those mounting errors when i loaded rhythmbox or banshee... i installed mtp-tools to try mtp-detect to trouble shoot and it will see it but i get PTP_ERROR_IO: failed to open session, trying again after resetting USB interface
[18:32] <aggro> When I gave command 'dhclient eth2', my screen went black and two lights on keyboard started blinking and I had to give hardware reset...  Any suggestions how to fix the network connection?
[18:33] <Ampelbein> ikonia: Yes, for ecdsa, but I don't know what dman777_alter is looking for exactl.y
[18:33] <ikonia> I thought all cyphers where enabled by default upstream from debian....
[18:38] <aggro> Perhaps I should ask something more simple... in which files does Ubuntu store network configuration?
[18:40] <Ampelbein> aggro: If you are using NetworkManager: In /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[18:40] <hdon> aggro, check man 5 network
[18:40] <SirCmpwn> what is the default system font
[18:40] <hdon> aggro, sorry man 5 interfaces
[18:41] <hdon> SirCmpwn, define "system font"
[18:41] <hdon> SirCmpwn, you mean in the VT?
[18:41] <SirCmpwn> VT?
[18:41] <SirCmpwn> I mean the font used on window decorations and menus and such
[18:41] <Ampelbein> hdon: interfaces doesn't apply when NM is being used.
[18:42] <john-locke__> installed ubuntu on win8 machine, loaded from cd drv etc & install went ok. on bootup no choice for ubuntu seen, goes str8 to win8. Any ideas??
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> SirCmpwn, There not all the same. Is it where do I go to change them?
[18:42] <SirCmpwn> no
[18:42] <SirCmpwn> I use arch and I'm looking for a font with good unicode support. I figured whatever ubuntu used was probably fine
[18:42] <co-XZist> Ampelbein: There's nothing in that folder
[18:43] <aggro> Ampelbein: I have eth1 there, but ifconfig shows only eth2... and I don't even know where eth0 is
[18:43] <MooreJohn90> Hi Everybody. I have EVDO usb modem. I want to make a phone call via usb modem. Is it possible? The simcard that I am going to use is the mobile phone sim card.
[18:44] <dman777_alter> Ampelbein: oh, i seee. i was trying ecc instead of ecdsa
[18:44] <dman777_alter> Ampelbein: thanks
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> !font
[18:45] <gordonjcp> jhutchins: my MicroVAX II and PDP11 are probably too modern for you ;-)
[18:45] <aggro> hdon: /etc/network/interfaces contains only "lo"
[18:45] <MooreJohn90> Hi Everybody. I have EVDO usb modem. I want to make a phone call via usb modem. Is it possible? The simcard that I am going to use is the mobile phone sim card.
[18:45] <nooboontoo>  hi, is this the right channel for troubleshooting questions?
[18:46] <co-XZist> MooreJohn90:  not sure about the EVDO modem but I used minicom to make calls from my built in modem
[18:46] <co-XZist> your usb device should show up in /dev
[18:47] <terahert> What is the prefered way of setting up as new user and changing it's shell in ubuntu?  Normally I just adduser, then useruser to the sudo group. then do chsh as that user to change. Is this the correct way? Because we all know Ubuntu for whatever reason uses dash instead of bash by default (although bash is included in the default install), and I w
[18:47] <terahert> ant to setup a new user to experiment with zsh. Would thos be the correct method for ubuntu?
[18:47] <terahert> s/thos/this
 What kind of AT command should i use?
[18:48] <PatrickDickey> nooboontoo: yes this is the right channel for troubleshooting.
[18:48] <co-XZist> MooreJohn90: well once you configure minicom to use your USB device (ttyUSB somenumber)... if u wish to use AT then it's ATD(phonenumber) T
[18:48] <Ampelbein> terahert: Eh, dash is only used for non-interactive shells by default. Bash should still be the login shell for new users.
[18:49] <co-XZist> MooreJohn90: example ATD1234567 T
[18:49] <nooboontoo> PatrickDickey: cool, i'm basically having this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/160048/how-to-force-ubuntu-to-access-the-internet-only-through-a-vpn-and-disable-it-whe
[18:49] <MooreJohn90> Hi, Is AT command for GSM the same as CDMA?
[18:50] <nooboontoo> tried the answer but can't get it to work
[18:50] <terahert> Ampelbein:regardless, that doesn't answer me question
[18:51] <terahert> Is that the proper way to go about creating a new user and making it's default shell zsh in ubuntu?
[18:51] <Ampelbein> terahert: You can simply pass --shell to adduser
[18:51] <MooreJohn90> Because, I got error when I tried with this command to send message "AT+CMGW="+85291234567"
[18:52] <terahert> thats fine, but the user was already made, if you just read my question...
[18:52] <terahert> forget it.... I'll just use my tried and true method.
[18:53] <Ampelbein> terahert: You said " to setup a new user to experiment with zsh" . That implied to me you were creating, well, a new user.
[18:53] <co-XZist> MooreJohn90: I know there is the extended AT for GSM not sure if the same for CDMA
[18:53] <co-XZist> didu just try the one i stated
[18:53] <MooreJohn90> Thank you
[18:53] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I encrypt my email account, specially my gmail account?
[18:54] <mojtaba> I am using thunderbird in ubuntu
[18:55] <Guest25054> use encrypted mesages in thunderbird
[18:55] <Ampelbein> terahert: But if you want to change an existing user: "sudo chsh -s /bin/zsh $USER"
[18:55] <mojtaba> Guest25054: Could you please give me a tutorial link?
[18:55] <terahert> otr just su to the user
[18:55] <terahert> and use chsh
[18:55] <OerHeks> mojtaba, easy http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Email-Encryption-in-Ubuntu with thunderbird as example
[18:55] <sere> wilee-nilee: i think it might be a mounting issue.. gvfs-mount -l shows   Mount(0): SAMSUNG_Android -> gphoto2://[usb:001,040]/.. not sure why its being mounted as gphoto2..what program did you use to mount youys
[18:56] <mojtaba> OerHeks: Thanks
[18:56] <terahert> Anyways, all is good now. Thanks for verifying my thoughts
[18:56] <co-XZist> YOu want to encrypt ur inbox or messages going in and out :S
[18:56] <OerHeks> mojtaba, might want to read this too > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[18:56] <mojtaba> the other question is that, how can I change my name in this chat room? currently it shows to me my name is adam; but it is shown to you it is mojtaba
[18:57] <terahert> username and realname are not the same as nickname
[18:57] <sere> wilee-nilee: its also mounting it twice..hmm
[18:57] <schultza> mojtaba... use "/nick <inputyournamehere>"
[18:57] <terahert> if you want to change the nickname, the name that shows in the chatroom, use /nick newnamehere
[18:57] <mojtaba> schultza: thank you
[18:57] <bazzer> on precise i just booted with a max_loop=64 to give me more loop devices and loopback mounted 16 iso images, now a pid belonging to gvfs-gdu-volume is taxing the spu at 100%....any ideas?
[18:57] <schultza> and.. adam might be the server you are on
[18:58] <bazzer> cpu rather
[18:58] <mojtaba> schultza: it is the same
[18:58] <schultza> nope.. your on another one...
[18:58] <mojtaba> it shows to me adam
[18:58] <co-XZist> are you logged on to ur pc as adam ?
[18:58] <aggro> How can I stop eth2 from appearing in boot to ifconfig list?
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> sere, I have not used 12.04 for awhile so I'm not really the best source probably, but I use this with my nexus 7, I got the smart phone long after using 12.04. http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[18:59] <mojtaba> co-XZist: no it is mojtaba too
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> used*
[18:59] <terahert> Anyone using chrome, with the new hangout extension (like a replacement for gtalk so you dont have to use a real xmpp client, and it is available from taskbar)
[18:59] <schultza> yes.. if it is in the upper right... thats your user's name
[18:59] <schultza> for the operating system
[18:59] <terahert> The reason I ask is, with dual monitors, it shows on the wrong monitor, not the primary
[18:59] <terahert> But the left screen, the laptop screen
[19:00] <terahert> Same with chromium also
[19:00] <co-XZist> UB12 update is taking forver -_-
[19:00] <mojtaba> schultza: When I click on adam on the right side, it shows mojtaba!!!
[19:01] <schultza> im not currently loaded in the applications you are in at this moment.
[19:01] <Ampelbein> mojtaba: Go into account options, did you set a local alias?
[19:01] <vaurdan> Hey
[19:01] <mojtaba> Ampelbein: I am not sure. I am using pidgin
[19:01] <Ampelbein> mojtaba: accounts -> IRC -> edit account
[19:01] <co-XZist> i stopped using pidgin a long time ago :)
[19:02] <mojtaba> co-XZist: Why? it is not good?
[19:02] <mojtaba> Ampelbein: Thanks
[19:02] <co-XZist> yes it is, just my preference.. I use irssi
[19:02] <schultza> oh.. that can be confusing.
[19:02] <vaurdan> Does SELinux block outside API connections?
[19:03] <schultza> that's console based, co-XZist..  a lot of ppl are not comfortable on the console.
[19:03] <vaurdan> do I have to add any iptables or else rules?
[19:03] <terahert> Pidgin has horrible IRC handling thanks to broken irc protocol support in libpurple (pigdin backend). I would suggest any7one using it for IRC a lot to swiutch to hexchat or another IRC client of their choice.
[19:03] <co-XZist> schultza: yeah I know..thats why i said "just my preference"
[19:03] <co-XZist> I'm not a fan of GUI's
[19:03] <terahert> I like KVIrc, but I am not an unity/gtk guy...
[19:04] <schultza> vaurdan: SELinux is a seperate Application based Firewall (seperate of the iptables). I say this lightly as it sets application domain workspaces.
[19:04] <OBI1> hello
[19:04] <schultza> kvirc is kde/qt based.
[19:05] <sere> wilee-nilee: ok thanks :) i will get that a look
[19:05] <jeevanus> hi, im using 32 bit linux, is it possible to have 64 bit os inside my machine?
[19:05] <jeevanus> atleast a 64 bit terminal
[19:06] <schultza> no.. youd have to start with 64 bit.. then use 32 bit applications
[19:06]  * schultza off to gaming.
[19:06] <OBI1> use tumb drive and install 64 bit on it and save your files on the hard drive
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> sere, I did see a thread on xda and mtp on 12.04 there might be info on that site.
[19:07] <terahert> schultza:pofc its KDE/Qt based, hence why I said I am NOT a unity/gtk guy
[19:07] <guest8989> Anyone here have experience with setting up ssh authentication via ldap/sasl against Active Directory
[19:08] <terahert> I much prefer QT for usage and coding to GTK
[19:08] <guest8989> all the guides i have found are somewhat confusing
[19:08] <terahert> QT's developer tools are a godsend compared to gtk
[19:09] <schultza> pofc? never heard of it
[19:09] <OBI1> what other desktop enviroments i can install in Ubuntu exept Unity, Gnome3,KDE
[19:09] <vaurdan> schultza, and how can I add a IP to the whitelist?
[19:09] <terahert> kvirc*
[19:09] <terahert> err
[19:09] <terahert> I meant to type ofc*
[19:09] <vaurdan> I want to be able to communicate with api.myprovider.com
[19:09] <co-XZist> jeevanus: Try OracleVM for linux.. I think it can run both 32 and 64bit OS's
[19:09] <terahert> ie ofc = of course
[19:09] <Eighteens> i just changed my motherboard, and my computer has a new static ip, what command do i type to set it back to my old ip
[19:09] <OBI1> Hi wille
[19:09] <lord4163> vaurdan: using your firewall? :)
[19:09] <schultza> i dont know SELinux very well, vaurdan.
[19:10] <auronandace> OBI1: xfce, lxde, enlightenment
[19:10] <vaurdan> when I ping it from my server, it doesn't reply; when I ping it from my machine I got a reply
[19:10] <OBI1> enlightment that new one
[19:10] <schultza> lord4163: I think he is saying his selinux is in the way, not iptables.
[19:10] <vaurdan> lord4163, can you give me a quick tip? :p
[19:10] <schultza> vaurdan: pastebin your "iptables -L"
[19:10] <lord4163> vaurdan: ehm, no just read the last lines, don't know what you try to do? :P
[19:11] <schultza> start with the actual kernel level network firewall (iptables).
[19:11] <vaurdan> schultza, http://pastebin.com/3qSYcM4s
[19:11] <lord4163> vaurdan: Maybe your server haven't got a DNS configured?
[19:12] <vaurdan> it has, I use dig
[19:12] <vaurdan> and yum
[19:12] <schultza> well, it's not iptables.. there is no deny/drop in there at all.
[19:12] <schultza> what message/s are you getting?
[19:13] <vaurdan> [root@gamerbox httpd]# ping api.wordpress.org
[19:13] <vaurdan> PING wordpress.org (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[19:13] <OBI1> look like enlightment looks good
[19:13] <vaurdan> just this, and it stuck here
[19:13] <lord4163> OBI1: There are plenty of them you can check arch' wiki there is a nice list of DE's here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_Environment#List_of_desktop_environments and if you're an advanced power user you can check out a WM, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Window_Manager#List_of_window_managers
[19:14] <vaurdan> ctrl+c and "26 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 25016ms"
[19:14] <Marlenee> how i upgrade nmap version
[19:14] <schultza> hang on.
[19:14] <lord4163> Marlenee: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nmap
[19:14] <OBI1> thanks lord i`m not "advance" but using linux for 8 yeras now as main OS
[19:15] <OBI1> And i love it
[19:15] <lord4163> OBI1: also depending on your target machine, on an old box you don't want to run Unity, GNOME Shell or KDE.
[19:16] <schultza> do you know how to temporarily [dis|en]able your SELinux?
[19:16] <vaurdan> yes, good idea :p
[19:16] <SchrodingersScat> OBI1: I like xfce which goes along with the xubuntu desktop option
[19:17] <schultza> if selinux is disabled from blocking anything and iptables is open like i see.. you should be able to ping it.. and this action will show us that it is selinux and you will need to ask the experts of selinux how to fix this. selinux is still quite new at this time though.
[19:17] <schultza> and there is an #selinux channel here on freenode.
[19:18] <OBI1> i have used them all and i love the gnome2.0  and love to have it but well won`t happen so ineed similar desktop used to have option to customize the gnome now days you can't
[19:18] <Marlenee> i do upgrade and nmap version is same as it -  Nmap 5.21
[19:18] <schultza> um .. linuxmint is the new maintainer for the gnome 2 stuff. i just forgot what they call it.
[19:18] <vaurdan> schultza, thanks for the tip :)
[19:18] <schultza> what did you find out vaurdan?
[19:18] <lord4163> OBI1: I'm using Elementary OS, it's based of Ubuntu 12.04, but everything is custom made by the devs, from their DE to their webbrowser :)
[19:18] <OBI1> Cinnamon desktop
[19:19] <lord4163> OBI1: you can check out MATE or XFCE if you wanna have the GNOME 2.x experience.
[19:19] <lord4163> OBI1: MATE = fork of GNOME 2
[19:19] <schultza> mate is? what is cinnamon? the linuxmint fork of gnome 3?
[19:20] <OBI1> tnx lord i will look at it
[19:20] <OBI1> http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/
[19:21] <OBI1> brb have to reboth
[19:21] <OerHeks> cinnamon is in the ubuntu repo's, mate is unsupported here.
[19:21] <raven_> hi
[19:22] <SchrodingersScat> raven_: hey
[19:23] <raven_> hdparm with external 3tb drive: how to disable/increase spindown-time?
[19:23] <schultza> LinuxMint is the maintainer of both cinnamon (advantages of gnome3/gtk3 backbone) and mate (fork of no longer gnome maintained gnome 2).
[19:23] <schultza> ok
[19:23] <schultza> and technically linuxmint should support both since they are maintaining both.
[19:24] <Orioa> is anyone avialable for some help
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> Orioa, You have to state the issues for help.
[19:25] <Obi1> enlightment  did not work at all
[19:25] <Orioa> im having issues with a driver
[19:26] <Orioa> i tried all the drivers offered but none seem to work
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> !details | Orioa this may help.
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> tons of drivers be specific
[19:27] <Orioa> i have a nvidia graphics card and all of the drivers offered do not work i am on ubuntu 12.04
[19:27] <lord4163> OerHeks: Why ain't it in the repo?
[19:28] <Orioa> and im not sure what to do i am new to linux
[19:28] <plusEV> Orioa: play around
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> Orioa, If you run lspci in the terminal you can find the graphic hardware to include in youask for help.
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> your ask*
[19:28] <OerHeks> lord4163, it is a mint thing
[19:28] <Obi1> any news on DRM for linux?
[19:29] <Obi1> kids is killing me for the stuped Netflix
[19:29] <auronandace> !netflix | Obi1
[19:29] <hayer> Anyone know of a program that can display info about a .png in terminal? Like dpi, width*height, etc?
[19:30] <raven_> hdparm with external 3tb drive: how to disable/increase spindown-time?
[19:30] <lord4163> OerHeks: Ok, but there are PPA's for it :)
[19:30] <Orioa> NVIDIA Corporation C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M] (rev a2)
[19:31] <Orioa> i have played around with it tried all the drivers in the additional driver log
[19:31] <Obi1> AWESOME i can divorce Windows Officialy if that NETFLIX works  YEPY
[19:31] <hayer> hayer: use <file filename.png>
[19:32] <co-XZist> I wanted to divorce Windows completely
[19:33] <OerHeks> Orioa, that old 7150m needs the 173 driver  > http://askubuntu.com/a/270248
[19:33] <co-XZist> but no driver for my ATIx1500
[19:33] <meet> hi. how do I change my default desktop environment? Like now i have xfce but I want openbox . so what should i edit?
[19:33] <WarlockLord> hey folks, looking for some help here. I had ubuntu 13.04 up and running, then I went to try to get hybrid graphics and vgaswitcheroo working. now I'm stuck on the ubuntu screen with the dots... any suggestions?
[19:33] <Mekaari_> depends on what your display manager is, meet.
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> Orioa, I see a bug on this, here are some threads to look through. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=GeForce+7150M+
[19:34] <meet> Mekaari_: how do I find that out?
[19:34] <Mekaari_> but usually, you edit .xinitrc in your home directory.
[19:34] <Orioa> ty
[19:35] <Mekaari_> meet: open .xinitrc and there should be something like
[19:35] <Mekaari_> exec startxfce4
[19:35] <OerHeks> meet, install openbox, logout, change DE, login
[19:35] <Gune> Question, If i got 4 partitions on a laptop using windows 7, and i clear one of them out, put in a ubuntu CD for installing. Can i repartition this empty partition to a slightly smaller size and add a swap partition without damaging the 3 windows partitions with data on them?
[19:35] <Mekaari_> change that to "exec openbox-session"
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> Gune, 4 primaries oe 3 and a extended with logical partitions are the limits per HD.
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> or*
[19:36] <meet> OerHeks: actually I am currently on linux lite which is ubuntu based and uses "heavily modified xfce".  btw Mekaari_  I searched for .xinitrc in home but it is not there
[19:36] <meet> OerHeks: so when I login there is no option to switch to openbox.
[19:36] <meet> OerHeks: *logout
[19:37] <OerHeks> meet, in ubuntu there is, your lite version might be altered, i don't know
[19:37] <Gune> wilee-nilee: ah right, crap. Well, question 2. Can a usb drive run ubuntu well enough to allow for an IDE to run smoothly? An IDE such as netbeans, for c++/c coding and compiling
[19:37] <Orioa> i have tried the 173 drivers that is what i am using now but it does not find my other monitor
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> meet, there is a #linuxlite channel it is not supported here.
[19:38] <OerHeks> Orioa, are you sure you have 173-updates, NOT nvidia-173 ?
[19:38] <Orioa> yes
[19:39] <meet> wilee-nilee: actually I asked over there but got no reply for a long time.
[19:39] <Orioa> i have the additional driver window open
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> Gune, A usb is limited by its quality and the speed it can transfer to and from the computer. Many remove the firmware partition and have no problem, or put it in the extended you would add for ubuntu and the swap.
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> meet, Bummer, if you get support here it will just be incidental is all, most wont.
[19:40] <Orioa> it works fine for the monitor on the laptop but does not let me use an additional monitor
[19:40] <lord4163> Gune: I wouldn't recommend it even on my HDD it's slow :D
[19:42] <Gune> Heh i see. ok so do i remove 1 of the 4 windows partitions, create a new primary for ubuntu, and then create a 5th extended one to use as swap?
[19:43] <thewrath> hey all i was wondering if anyone has had the same issue. I attempted to install the 64 bit of 13.04 and when i reboot after the install it sits there at a blinking cursor
[19:43] <Orioa> i had that same issue so went with 12.04 lte
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, More than one HD per-chance, no real indications of what you have done as problematic in general.
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> ie 64 bit installs
[19:44] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: there is only one hard drive on it
[19:45] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: you are saying 64 bit installs for Ubuntu are problematic?
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, No,
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, This a usb install?
[19:45] <crackerjackz> !truecrypt
[19:45] <thewrath> no DVD
[19:45] <skorasaurus-alt> !ubuntuforums
[19:45] <InvaderZim> hi
[19:45] <crackerjackz> what is the package name for truecrypt?
[19:46] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: linux mint 15 64 bit installs w/o issue
[19:46] <thewrath> so i was guessing it was something through the Ubuntu install
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, This is a good tool for fixing, best option may be running just the bootinfo summary and posting the url here and looking at it yourself. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | thewrath tey this
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> try*
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, Mint has more drivers for some things that is what makes it popular try the nomodeset boot.
[19:48] <AdvoWork> Hi there, im working on a document which has approx 40 images in, these are massive and its making the document 100+MB. I'm wanting to resize the photos, so i basically renamed the .odt to .tar.gz, extracted it, went into the pictures folder, resized them all, compressed it back up and then renamed it back to .odt, but its now all corrupted. Anyone know how to do what I want but without destroying the document?
[19:49] <ikonia> AdvoWork: what did you rename it ? that does nothing
[19:49] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: all right i am looking at the boot repair. sounds like i can install it so i will install it via the live Ubuntu
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, Try the nomodeset first
[19:50] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: I said that Linux Mint all ready boots w/o issue
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, Sounds more like a graphic driver issue, nomodeset should get you to the desktop to update and install drivers.
[19:50] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: nomedest is boot repair?
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | thewrath
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, It is a grub edit, from a install per-session, in your case
[19:52] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: all right i am looking at that too
[19:52] <thewrath> i need to go through the process again stand by
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, miny has more drivers for a plug and play, that is why people like it in general, ubuntu has all the same driver options, but need loading at times.
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> mint*
[19:53] <AdvoWork> ikonia, to be fair i dont know, but even so, that won't cause the corruptness would it?
[19:53] <max64> i'm using ubuntu 13.4 .. how can i install hotmail,gmail and yahoo icons on the left bar in the screen?
[19:54] <ikonia> AdvoWork: it can do if you are changing the name and different apps treat it different
[19:54] <fritz3170> did anyone notice about this beetle سمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐خ  ?
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> max64, You can access all three with thunderbird, or another.
[19:55] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: when i had ubuntu installed it did not even get to a splash screen
[19:55] <max64> Wilee-nilee:there is icons of them i cam stick in the unity bar
[19:56] <AdvoWork> ikonia, but im changing it back afterwards, ill just try now without renaming
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, right a mkissing graphic driver will cause that, have you looked at the nomodeset link?
[19:56] <thewrath> starting too now ... was getting the ubuntu install set up again
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> max64, Is that a are there icons? I don't know.
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, If you do not use the update while installing option, you can not get drivers you would have otherwise.
[19:58] <thewrath> wilee-nilee: are you saying the install updates during install?
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> thewrath, It is best to have the install updates ticked on a install.
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> generally especially if you have nvidia or other graphics hardware that may need drivers
[20:00] <plusEV> Hi, I am running Lubuntu 13.04 and I have installed gsynaptics to manage my mouse. The problem is that any change I make does not save to a reboot. Anyone know how to fix this?
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> !gsynaptics
[20:02] <plusEV> or the settings turns on only when i start the program again
[20:02] <plusEV> !gsynaptics
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> plusEV, gsynaptics is a 3rd party source forge did you try the synaptics tap pad.
[20:03] <flax_> how do I do a search on my system for all .ogv files? ubuntu 12.04
[20:03] <flax_> gui
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> plusEV, I believe it had mouse support, what is the issue and ean goal here?
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> has*
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> flax_, search in home would be easiest probably
[20:04] <plusEV> huh?
[20:04] <plusEV> I do not know what tap pad is
[20:05] <plusEV> I could not find any mouse setting after I installed Lubuntu so I read up on gsynaptics. No idea what tap pad is
[20:06] <kqr1> does anybody know off-hand if there is a way to make pommed (a daemon for apple laptop hotkeys) change the volume of pulseaudio instead of an alsa channel?
[20:06] <zooz> hi people
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> plusEV, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad  you need to state the problems and goals in the end here.
[20:06] <zooz> what do you guys use for creating your own local APT repos?
[20:07] <zooz> I use reprepro, but it does not support multiple versions of the same package, otherwise it's great
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> plusEV, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Mouse
[20:07] <bazhang> !info apt-mirror | zooz
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> plusEV, Is not a gui orientated as nice as it is.
[20:08] <zooz> bazhang, I use that too for mirroring existing repos.
[20:08] <hanasaki> how can I put multiple bootable iso usb images linux example.... on a single usb stick and select which at boot?
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> as*
[20:08] <zooz> bazhang, but I need a tool for creating repos from scratch for my own packages
[20:08] <Ampelbein> zooz: dpkg-scanpackages should do what you want with the "-m" switch.
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, I use the multisystem loader seen at pendrivelinux for loading from linux
[20:08] <bazhang> zooz, how many packages are we talking
[20:08] <zooz> Ampelbein, can it sign packages?
[20:09] <flax_> there is a hundred gig screen capture video file made with gtkrecordmydesktop and I can't locate it, what folder would it most likely be in
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[20:09] <zooz> bazhang, around 10-15 new ones per day. So it will be changing constantly
[20:09] <bazhang> zooz, perhaps PPA system
[20:10] <Orioa> im totally lost..
[20:10] <zooz> bazhang, PPA is public right? I need to host private packages
[20:10] <Ampelbein> zooz: Unfortunately dpkg-scanpackages doesn't support signed Release files.
[20:11] <Ampelbein> zooz: But you could use apt-ftparchive for that.
[20:12] <zooz> thanks
[20:14] <flax_> in what folder do gtk-recordmydesktop files(.ogv) go into by default, if I didnt manually save the file
[20:15] <plusEV> wilee-nilee: My problem is that I want to disable the pager scrolling. Like srolling gives me new desktop. I can not find any option for pager when I run synclient -l
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> plusEV, Not sure myself, you might try the #lubuntu channel as well
[20:17] <plusEV> wilee-nilee: I found it on the bottom of the page you gave me now. But unsure of how to do it. :P
[20:17] <plusEV> something about openbox, but I do not undrstan what he means.
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> plusEV, Lots of excellent helpers here, you can probably get this resolved, just not an area I'm sure in is all. ;)
[20:18] <plusEV> wilee-nilee: nevermind my dumbass chromium f.. up the site. I can read it now. :)
[20:20] <BluesKaj> ,!openbox | plusEV
[20:20] <BluesKaj> oops
[20:20] <BluesKaj> !openbox | plusEV
[20:21] <AdvoWork> Quick query - ive had some of my staff write documents for me in libre office, ive seen them and they looked ok, ive opened them on my laptop and the formatting has all gone random, ie photos/bullet points overlap etc, any idea why this could happen, but my lappy and other machines are Ubuntu...
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> Opened them in an older version of libreoffice ?
[20:24] <AdvoWork> Dr_Willis, maybe :S  i cant check either as at home now
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> thats about the only thing i can think of. Unles they are saveing it in some weird way.
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> there is a libreoffice channel i belive
[20:24] <flax_> Dr_Willis, there is a large .ogv file on my system that I can't find, it's not in the home folder, what folder are gtk-recordmyscreen files stored by default?
[20:25] <daftykins> flax_: "sudo updatedb" "locate ogv" ?
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> you mean 'gtk-recordmydesktop' ?
[20:26] <flax_> Dr_Willis, yes
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> looks like they save to your home by default.
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> but they may have some tmp file they use
[20:27] <flax_> where would the tmp files be
[20:28] <Dr_Willis>  /tmp/  would be my guess
[20:28] <Ampelbein> flax_: Usually in /tmp, unless your $TMPDIR is set to something else
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> settings for gtk-recordmydesktop --->   working directory  ---> /tmp
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[20:29] <amireldor> command to determine modem on computer for placing its model in a google search, coz of repeated disconnection problems?
[20:29] <amireldor> (helping a friend)
[20:29] <Ampelbein> amireldor: lspci? lsusb?
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> !info hwinfo
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> 'modem' is such a broad term these days ;)  3g? dialup? ADSL?
[20:37] <joufflu> good god
[20:38] <sinann390> ioedx vruur jyn go pr Testing ~
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[20:38] <Salih__> pavza nxsiv ssp co pe Testing ~
[20:38] <FloodBot1> sinann390: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <FloodBot1> AVUKATKORHAN: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <FloodBot1> Salih__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> hmm.  If reencoding a video via handbreak. and its a CGI animation, would the  x264 Tuneing option of 'Animation' be best? or would that mainly be for the More classic style anime/animation/cartoons?
[20:42] <skegeek> Do you have to install Ubuntu via USB to have "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows"?
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> skegeek:  options should be the same
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> biggest issue ive seen with that option. - IF you have 4 primary partions allready made. it may not allow it.
[20:43] <skegeek> I tried installing 13.04 via CD, it didn't offer that option, only offered options for partitioninig.
[20:44] <skegeek> Does it automatically partition using install alongside windows option?
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> personally i would resize/repartion manually.  but thats because i tend to know what i want. ;)
[20:45] <jhutchins> skegeek: When you are partitioning you can resize the existing Windows partitions.  That's what you do for dual boot.
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> I tend to let windows resize/shrink its own partions - befor i do the ubuntu install. windows seems a LOT faster at the task
[20:45] <BluesKaj> skegeek, yes , it should , but "guided" partitioning is probly safer
[20:46] <jhutchins> skegeek: It would be really nice to make a backup before you start messing with it.
[20:47] <b0unce> What's the internet daemon in 13.04 (from what I can enable/disable internet services)?
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> b0unce:  no such thing as far as i know. You manage services via the Upstart settings/scripts
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[20:48] <AdvoWork> how can i upgrade libreoffice(just this application) in ubuntu 13.04?
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> AdvoWork:  you want one thats newer then whats in the repos? if so use a PPA.
[20:49] <b0unce> Dr_Willis: I remember something such inetd
[20:49] <Ampelbein> b0unce: I don't have a 13.04 install handy to check, but isn't the default stil inetutils-inetd? You can do "dpkg -l | grep inetd" to check.
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> b0unce:  i dont think thats been used for years on ubuntu
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> wasent it xinetd ages ago?
[20:50] <b0unce> Ampelbein: it gives me "update-inetd" as installed. Where's the conf file?
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> changed i mean
[20:50] <Dr_Willis>  locate inetd
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> /etc/inetd.conf
[20:50] <b0unce> Dr_Willis: I don't have that file in /etc
[20:50] <Ampelbein> b0unce: update-inetd is just a tool to enable/disable entries in /etc/inetd.conf
[20:51] <AdvoWork> Dr_Willis, i dont know if im using the latest version anyway, can i do sudo apt-get update libreoffice ?
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> my inetd.conf is all... comments.. ;)
[20:51] <b0unce> Ampelbein: alright, thanks. I think now it's clear.
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> AdvoWork:  some weird reason you dont want your whole system  up to date?
[20:52] <AdvoWork> nopf, true
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> makes me wonder what inetd is actually doing.
[20:52] <AdvoWork> *nope
[20:52] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, taking up space
[20:52] <Ampelbein> b0unce: It could be that you don't have any package installed that actually requires a superserver. In which case you could install inetutils-inetd or another.
[20:52] <skegeek> I have resized to create Ubuntu partitions, however, partitions always seem to be a bit off of the size I specify.
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> i think it got pulled in  when i set up fail2ban perhaps
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> skegeek:  rounding to the nearest sector/clyinder or somthing i recall.
[20:53] <Ampelbein> Dr_Willis: It's a server that reacts to connection requests on ports and starts the "real" server.
[20:53] <b0unce> Ampelbein: Many thanks. :)
[20:53] <Ampelbein> Dr_Willis: It saves memory and cpu due to fewer processes running as servers only get started when they are actually needed.
[20:54] <pfifo> skegeek, dont forget 1024 bytes = 1 kb (not 1000) and the filesystem itself requires some space, and 5% is usually reserved for root so it appears as if its used
[20:54] <Obi1> hello
[20:54] <Willdude123> http://imgur.com/6C8G2TL
[20:54] <Willdude123> ^it was an accident
[20:54] <Willdude123> Tried to set up vlc over web interface, doesn't work.
[20:54] <Obi1> any one have run or running Bodhi linux?
[20:54] <Willdude123> But this is 10 times cooler
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> Ampelbein:  and its the kind of thing most people never need to touch. ;)
[20:55] <siberiannerd> could someone point me at my mistake or give some useful tips? why can't i get the window id from known pid directly or vice versa for wine window http://pastebin.com/Bp1SDAyK ?
[20:55] <Ampelbein> Dr_Willis: True.
[20:55] <Ampelbein> I remember that upstart should get a similar functionality, but haven't checked how far that project has come.
[20:57] <pfifo> siberiannerd, try asking in #winehq
[20:58] <siberiannerd> pfifo, tried that
[20:58] <siberiannerd> someone told i could try my distro support channel so i'm here
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> but the same method works for a non-wine window ?
[21:02] <koko0> hi, ive upgraded to 13.10 and now cant assign shortcut to switch input language.
[21:03] <koko0> well, i can  assign, its just not switching.
[21:04] <siberiannerd> Dr_Willis, it shows me pids for visible native windows at least, always
[21:04] <Dr_Willis>  13.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[21:04] <koko0> k ty :)
[21:04] <Ampelbein> siberiannerd: There was/is a bug with invisible, blocking windows.
[21:04] <Ampelbein> siberiannerd: Let me check if I can find it.
[21:04] <siberiannerd> Ampelbein, wow thanks
[21:05] <Ampelbein> bug 709461
[21:05] <Ampelbein> But doesn't look like it's resolved
[21:05] <siberiannerd> Ampelbein, why it's "compiz"?
[21:06] <siberiannerd> i don't use one for example
[21:06] <siberiannerd> and btw the window itself is fine
[21:07] <Ampelbein> siberiannerd: Oh, ok. I only had the missing NET_WM_PID with those invisible windows.
[21:08] <siberiannerd> Ampelbein, thanks anyway, i'll try to investigate if there could be something in common
[21:10] <DuncanNZ> how do you "connect as" to a windows network share which allows public access but also shows more content with login?
[21:12] <b0bbi10> hi
[21:12] <axgb> hi, I cannot edit my home directory contents or access a usb stick unless root
[21:12] <daftykins> axgb: did you restore your home from a backup or external drive?
[21:13] <axgb> yes,
[21:13] <b0bbi10> if I intend to use Full Disk Encryption with an existing Full Disk Encrypted /home partition, is there a way to encrypt all devices using one password (will use the same password for encrypting the new Ubuntu installation)?
[21:13] <axgb> Not with an automated thing, i just copied and pasted with usb stick
[21:13] <yumbono> axgb: you can use the "chown" command to set the owner of your home directory to your user
[21:14] <pfifo> b0bbi10, i encrypted my /, and on it i put a few encryption keys (files) for the rest of my partitions.
[21:14] <axgb> My user name is ariel, tell me the command
[21:14] <pfifo> b0bbi10, hence only need 1 password
[21:14] <daftykins> axgb: as root? yeah you're going to need to take ownership as yumbono says
[21:14] <daftykins> axgb: sudo chown -R ariel: /home/ariel/
[21:14] <yumbono> axgb: you can do it with "sudo chown -R ariel /home/ariel
[21:15] <yumbono> yeah, what daftykinssaid
[21:15] <yumbono> said*
[21:15] <b0bbi10> pfifo: ok, good to know
[21:15] <b0bbi10> then I'll see how I can set it up
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> !permissions > axgb
[21:16] <daftykins> yumbono: high-five sir
[21:17] <axgb> Hi, Yumbono, it says permission denied, i did it as sudo
[21:17] <daftykins> axgb: can you pastebin what you did?
[21:18] <daftykins> copy it straight out of the terminal
[21:18] <daftykins> preferably with an "ls -l /home/" beside it too
[21:20] <axgb> hi, the problem with home has gone, there is still an issue with USB sticjks
[21:22] <sere> ll
[21:22] <b0bbi10> pfifo: sorry to bother you but I got another question concerning LUKS. is there any configuration file so that I can see how LUKS is currently set up (which device is mounted with which options etc.)?
[21:26] <amireldor> Ampelbein, hmm OK I guess
[21:26] <bazzer> using 12.04 and just mounted via loopback a large number (16) of iso images and now gvfs-gdu-volume is taxing my cpu...any ideas?
[21:41] <sere> Question: I can see my driod in rhythmbox but cant sync any files to it.. no errors just wont copy
[21:48] <Jofironses> Hello, is it possible to grow a raid0 without file loss. That is, add another hard disk to an existing array, while maintaining all data. (I'm using software raid by the way)
[21:51] <compdoc> raid0 is two drives now?
[21:52] <compdoc> striped for speed?
[21:54] <Jofironses> compdoc: Yes
[21:55] <daftykins> Jofironses: my instinct would be no
[21:56] <daftykins> but i don't use software based
[21:59] <flax_> in what folder are most program files stored?
[22:01] <yumbono> flax_: what do you need that for?
[22:01] <joufflu> how do remove the notification of when someone joins and leaves in irssi ?
[22:01] <joufflu> err disable*
[22:02] <nabblet> joufflu: what client do you use?
[22:02] <joufflu> nabblet: irssi
[22:02] <flax_> ymbono, to check xchat files
[22:03] <yumbono> flax_: what do you want to find? logs?
[22:03] <nabblet> joufflu: http://irssi.org/documentation/tips
[22:03] <nabblet> joufflu: there is also an irssi channel ;)
[22:03] <joufflu> nabblet: thank you sir
[22:04]  * Dr_Willis likes weechats smart part/join filters
[22:04] <nabblet> Dr_Willis: what makes it smart?
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  if you quit now/ or part..it shows it.. if you stay quiet for 5 min, or never say anythng. it dosent show them
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> also alt-=  can toggle them to show me what ones got hidden.
[22:05] <nabblet> joufflu: also look a bit around - irssi alone is not that fun - but the scripts make it pretty useful!
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> weechat also has basically a 'package manager' for its scripts
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[22:05] <nabblet> oooohhhh, shiny!
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> but you WILL want to read the weechat docs/guides/starter guide
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> also theres a weechat-android client that connects to your weechat session.
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> but its a bit crashy right now
[22:07] <nabblet> well, usually i use tmux+irssi
[22:07] <nabblet> tmux is some kind fo screen - but better ;)
[22:07] <nabblet> that weechat thing looks interesting!
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> for ages i used znc+weechat+tmux or whatever :) but with znc - the use of  tmux was a little overkill
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> raspberry pi = my znc/irc server/gateway ;)
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> id connect to it via znc from any other client. then i basically was here 24/7 :)
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> 3+ differnt pcs/irc clients --> all connected to the same znc  server, all routeing me here.
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> i could go to any pc in the house, or tablet/phone and still be on the same nick/session here.
[22:12] <nabblet> !znc
[22:12] <nabblet> :(
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> !info znc
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> with weechat i got the mode changes by the bots/ops  going to a diffent window also. so i dont see the mode change floods that often happen in here. ;)
[22:13] <nabblet> Dr_Willis: you can do that irssi to
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> but i dont need scripts to do it. its a built in feature
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> i just cant rember how i enabled the feature. ;P
[22:14] <nabblet> ahahaha
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> been using the same weechat setup for like 2 years
[22:15] <nabblet> it's a pain to be to redo things i did long ago
[22:15] <nabblet> usually all i remember is: it was a pain and there was a twist somewhere
[22:15] <nabblet> :P
[22:15] <mega1> when i loged into my server it said there was 85 updates so i installed now it says there was an error
[22:15] <nabblet> :(
[22:15] <SubCool> how do i deteremine which harddrive of mine is ata9?
[22:15] <SubCool> according to dmesg?
[22:15] <pcs> hey
[22:16] <nabblet> Dr_Willis: i don't get the idea behind an irc bouncer. here is what i do: tumx + irssi some where. and then ssh to that computer and open the tmux sessions. what value will an irc bouncer add for me?
[22:16] <mega1> dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  as i said eralier - i have 4 pcs in the house.. all go to the bouncer.. then they show whats here.
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> they can be running ANY irc client. it dosent matter.
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> i chat here.. go to the garrage..  that pc/client shows the same dialog/info.
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> i turn off all 4 pcs' the znc server stays here and logs stuff.. i connect via phone.. it shows the history. I never 'appear' to leave here
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> so. No ned to use ssh/tmux, any client can have a peristant session.
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> and multi clients appear as a single client here.
[22:19] <nabblet> ah ok
[22:19] <Corvaxia> So. I have 13.04 with Steam running through WINE. Everything runs fine except for my microphone. The Yeti Mic works in ubuntu but when testing it on Steam I sound like a chipmunk. Where should I start poking around?
[22:20] <nabblet> brb
[22:21] <flax_>   how do you start weechat if it's installed but not in the gnome panel?
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> Corvaxia, Do we get a sample of the chipmunk voice. ;)
[22:21] <FrostyX> Hi, I am trying to install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/hamster-indicator/0.1+037dd2e-0ubuntu1 from tar.gz and I got this python error http://pastebin.com/mNdcU26u . Do you know how to fix it please?
[22:22] <troii> how do i install iceweasel
[22:22] <IdleOne> troii: like I said in #freenode 11.10 is no longer supported, install 12.04LTS and you will be able to install iceweasel
[22:22] <Corvaxia> I would have to install audacity on my wine install but maaaaaaaybe
[22:22] <troii> how do i upgrade
[22:22] <Akiva-Mobile> with ubuntuone, is it possible to give out a link for anyone to use a folder, rather than having to add everyone specifically by email?
[22:22] <IdleOne> troii: if you don't want to upgrade. There is nothing we can do to help you.
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade | troii
[22:22] <troii> apt-get upgrade doesnt work
[22:22] <Corvaxia> I'm just wondering if there is a specific package I have to install for my ALC889  soundcard or the yeti mic
[22:23] <IdleOne> !eolupgrade | troii
[22:23] <SubCool> Ok- so.. um.. ive been having HDD issues..
[22:24] <troii> My PC is secure
[22:24] <afterm4th> سمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐خ
[22:24] <nabblet> Dr_Willis: btw. what's the correct term for not transfering logindata for irc nicks in clear text?
[22:24] <nurupo> is there a PPA with precompiled Qt 5.1.x packages? can't find any
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  you mean encrypting?
[22:25] <nabblet> Dr_Willis: afaik, if i identify at nickserv, my password will be transferred unencrpyted if no meausres are taken
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  or ssl ?
[22:25] <troii> IDLEONE i installed iceweasel but instead i get firefox
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  weechat replaces your password with a * if you accidently do that in a chennel.
[22:25] <troii> :SSSS
[22:25] <SubCool> which log file would i pull up to figure out which hdd is going nuts when it crashes again?
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  and freenode has sasl features as well
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> nabblet, You can set a delay
[22:26] <nabblet> wilee-nilee: oh yes, i remeber something about delay XD
[22:26] <nabblet> so that it has time to register...
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> yep
[22:26] <nabblet> so what's the therm for that: encrypted loging?
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  and freenode has sasl features as well
[22:26] <nabblet> sasl
[22:26] <nabblet> ok
[22:26] <nabblet> will look for hat
[22:26] <nabblet> *that
[22:27] <nabblet> thank you
[22:27] <FloodBot1> nabblet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> znc and weechat support it. as do most mondern irc clients
[22:27] <troii> does this channel support KU-BUNTU
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> sometimes i cant get to freenode via my cellphone. unless i use sasl
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> troii:  to some degree - yes
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> the released version yes
[22:27] <nabblet> !kubuntu
[22:27] <troii> how about BloatBuntu ?
[22:27] <nabblet> ^ troii
[22:28] <wilee-nilee> canonical associated releases only
[22:29] <nabblet> is there a way in ubuntu to make "real" annotations to pdfs? like acrobat does?
[22:30] <troii> Ubuntu is blotware
[22:30] <nabblet> ususally additional files are required or something like that
[22:30] <nabblet> troii: well, take that to #troll
[22:40] <wiak> i have a *slow* problem, my realtek 8111F gigabit ethernet only gives me 32 mb/s max over sftp and 12 mb/s over samba, this is on a 8 disk RAID6, ubuntu 12.04 amd64, hdparm gives me Timing buffered disk reads: 998 MB in 3.00 seconds = 332.58 MB/sec on the array
[22:40] <wiak> soo its not the harddrive(S)
[22:41] <wiak> windows 8 > ubuntu 12.04 LTS AMD64 Samba
[22:41] <daftykins> wiak: buffered is useless, bench non-buffered
[22:41] <daftykins> wiak: is it software RAID?
[22:43] <ziadingo> run=$(sudo /home/ziadingo/sc)
[22:43] <ziadingo> $run
[22:43] <ziadingo> why does'nt work? I want set command to var
[22:43] <tsimpson> ziadingo: $() executes the command between the parentheses and returns the output of the command
[22:43] <LeinardoSmith_> hello does anyone have experience using samba and cups to serve windows printer drivers?
[22:44] <wiak> daftykins: fake hardware raid i belive its a marvell chip/highpoint btw when i use sftp and copy a file from the os ssd disk i get the same speed, so its network not raid/ssd
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> LeinardoSmith_, The channel works with stating the issues for help.
[22:46] <LeinardoSmith_> oh ok
[22:46] <ziadingo> tsimpson: ok, but if jei my bash file eg. /home/ziadingo/sc/files/bash, every time write file location not good idea
[22:47] <tsimpson> ziadingo: I didn't understand you
[22:47] <LeinardoSmith_> I am getting a WERR_ACCESS_DENIED error when I try to run "sudo cupsaddsmb -v -a"
[22:48] <daftykins> wiak: have you tried iperf to confirm your network is up to the task?
[22:48] <ziadingo> tsimpson: i want to run file /home/ziadingo/sc/files/bash.txt
[22:48] <ziadingo> Did imposible long command set to variable>
[22:48] <ziadingo> ?
[22:48] <SmokingFreak> good morning
[22:49] <tsimpson> ziadingo: set the variable to the command with double-quotes, don't use $()
[22:49] <wiak> daftykins: well i *know* it can do 112 MB/s, but after i updated something in ubuntu, it went down to 12 MB/s
[22:50] <tsimpson> ziadingo: command="sudo /home/me/whatever/the/file/is"; $command
[22:51] <LeinardoSmith_> anybody?
[22:51] <ziadingo> tsimpson: thx
[22:53] <jfklsdajkfsda> fdsa
[22:53] <herbstwind> list
[22:53] <LeinardoSmith_> I am trying to set up cups and samba to serve the windows drivers as needed but I am running into an error: WERR_ACCESS_DENIED
[22:55] <jfklsdajkfsda> Can anyone help me with some big issues please?
[22:55] <wiak> [148] 0.0-10.0 sec 1.10 GBytes 939 Mbits/sec is iperf daftykins btw thx for the tip mate
[22:55] <SmokingFreak> what up?
[22:55] <nabblet> is there a packages for ubuntu like pastebinit but for images?
[22:56] <SmokingFreak> yeah 1sec got link for you
[22:56] <Apachez> nabblet: owncloud?
[22:56] <jfklsdajkfsda> well, this new ubuntu update installed and since then when i boot i get black screen
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin
[22:56] <SmokingFreak> http://beeg.com/6982198 here you go mate ;)
[22:56] <jfklsdajkfsda> and after i restarted couple of times it just shows up desktop background without any system trays
[22:57] <wiak> jfklsdajkfsda: what typo of graphics do you have?
[22:57] <jfklsdajkfsda> idk what's going on
[22:57] <jfklsdajkfsda> amd 5770
[22:57] <wiak> sometimes you need to reinstall the gpu drivers
[22:57] <jfklsdajkfsda> i have some beta drivers
[22:57] <nabblet> Apachez: would be a bit of an overkill ;)
[22:57] <jfklsdajkfsda> ok i'll try with that
[22:57] <jfklsdajkfsda> tnx
[22:57] <wiak> try go into console and run amdconfig --initial
[22:57] <wiak> :P
[22:57] <nabblet> wilee-nilee: something like this http://argandgahandapandpa.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/command-line-script-to-upload-images-to-imagebin/
[22:58] <wiak> jfklsdajkfsda: http://nwgat.wordpress.com/2013/04/21/amd-catalyst-on-linux-howto-black-screen-fix/
[22:58] <nabblet> wilee-nilee: but from repos so that i can be sure it is maintained
[22:58] <wiak> thankly i had the same problemo :P
[22:58] <jfklsdajkfsda> like i click start key on keyboard and nothing comes up
[22:58] <jfklsdajkfsda> how do i run command
[22:58] <jfklsdajkfsda> or terminal
[22:59] <jfklsdajkfsda> tnx wiak
[22:59] <wiak> follow the Black screen on boot Fix (uninstall driver) part
[22:59] <nabblet> well, i'll use that script then
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> jfklsdajkfsda:  you do or do not get a graphical Login screen? (lightdm)
[22:59] <wiak> and then install driver again jfklsdajkfsda
[22:59] <jfklsdajkfsda> i got it after i restarded pc couple of times, and after i did some stuff in recovery mode
[22:59] <wiak> Dr_Willis i had the same problem, it comes from xorg and driver not being friends ;)
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> jfklsdajkfsda:  somthing else to try is to make a new user via the console and  see if they aork.
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> wiak:  ive seen it happen for dozens of reasons. ;)  (the no panels bit)
[23:00] <jfklsdajkfsda> right, i have no panels
[23:00] <wiak> <- had black screen
[23:00] <jfklsdajkfsda> but don't have black screen anymore
[23:00] <jfklsdajkfsda> just no panels
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> jfklsdajkfsda:  try the guest user, and making a new user. see if they work. if SO then that points to a user setting issue
[23:01] <wiak> check /.config folder
[23:01] <wiak> Dr_Willis: yeah the most simple is to make a new user
[23:01] <jfklsdajkfsda> yeah, but how do i make a new user
[23:01] <jfklsdajkfsda> if i can't open any system related tools
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> sudo adduser billgates
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> at the console
[23:01] <jfklsdajkfsda> and how to open console :p
[23:02] <daftykins> run the Terminal
[23:02] <jfklsdajkfsda> rly... is there some shortcut?
[23:02] <jfklsdajkfsda> lol i know
[23:02] <jfklsdajkfsda> but how
[23:02] <LeinardoSmith_> I am trying to set up cups and samba to serve the windows drivers as needed but I am running into an error: WERR_ACCESS_DENIED
[23:02] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> use the console.. thats the easy way
[23:02] <LeinardoSmith_> anybody any ideas?
[23:02] <jfklsdajkfsda> but how to open console
[23:02] <jfklsdajkfsda> what do i press
[23:02] <jfklsdajkfsda> i don't have it on desktop
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-f1
[23:03] <jfklsdajkfsda> ok thank you
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> its not a desktop thang. ;)
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> then sudo service lightdm restart             to restart the X server
[23:04] <jfklsdajkfsda> ok
[23:04] <jfklsdajkfsda> will try
[23:05] <wiak> you can reconfigure the driver with amdconfig --initial
[23:05] <wiak> daftykins: any clue? it seems iperf gives me gbit speeds but not sftp or samba
[23:06] <chris5000> anybody else have their ath9k break after upgrading to ubuntu 12.04.3?
[23:06] <daftykins> wiak: i'm hard pushed to think of what else i'd try - it'd be nice to drop a NIC in i guess :(
[23:12] <clong> @daftykins What are you trying to do?
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> chris5000, plenty here is you need to know, http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=relevance&pagesize=50&q=%20ath9k the channel works if you state the actual issue.
[23:14] <wiak> daftykins: it is smb/sftp, iperf was around 1gbit right?
[23:15] <daftykins> clong: i was the helper not the help-ee ;)
[23:15] <wiak> clong: slow problem with ubuntu and realtek gigabit
[23:15] <daftykins> wiak: have you tried watching top during a transfer to see if the processor is getting hammered?
[23:16] <wiak> AMD 5800K?
[23:16] <wiak> i dont run 100mhz penitum
[23:16] <wiak> :P
[23:16] <wiak> will do
[23:16] <daftykins> no but it might highlight a driver/kernel issue
[23:17] <wiak> 90 while copying 2gb iso file
[23:18] <chris5000> wilee-nilee: that doesn't help. upgrading broke my backports-3.11-rc3-1.tar.bz2
 ok cool
[23:19] <chris5000> wilee-nilee: there are no newer versions according to https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/backports/stable/v3.11-rc3/
[23:19] <chris5000> wilee-nilee: that's my specific question. any ideas?
[23:19] <clong> wiak: How slow is slow?
[23:19] <FrostyX> Please, I am trying to install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/hamster-indicator/0.1+037dd2e-0ubuntu1 from tar.gz and I got this python error http://pastebin.com/mNdcU26u . Do you know how to fix it please?
[23:20] <daftykins> wiak: ah, was the slow transfer not large contiguous files? was it a lot of small files?
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> FrostyX, running 11.10 right?
[23:20] <jrib> FrostyX: why are you linking to a launchpad page?  How are you installing it?
[23:21] <wiak> 2gb iso, sftp, samba gives me 20 cpu usage on a 4.4gb file
[23:21] <FrostyX> jrib wilee-nilee: I am trying to install it from tar.gz cause I am installing it on Gentoo
[23:21] <jrib> FrostyX: this channel is for help with ubuntu
[23:21] <wiak> clong: well going from 112 mb/s to 12 mb/s is slow
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> !info hamster-indicator
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> Gentoo supports Indicator applets?
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> that would be a bit supriseing
[23:24] <wiak> daftykins clong, now i have removed both ufw and iptables
[23:24] <wiak> will se if it fixes it
[23:24] <wiak> :P
[23:25] <daftykins> the former uses the latter!
[23:25] <wiak> <- file server in a local network behind a router
[23:25] <wiak> :P
[23:25] <FrostyX> Dr_Willis: I heard it works in other distributions too ..
[23:25] <wiak> there its pointless to have firewalls
[23:26] <daftykins> wiak: *nod*
[23:26] <wiak> must be firewall. having ufw and iptables at the same time hmm
[23:26] <wiak> thats must be a nono
[23:31] <OerHeks> FrostyX, so you are running unity on gentoo and want that hamster-indicator working?
[23:31] <wiak> still slow after reboot and removal of iptables and ufw daftykins :/
[23:34] <FrostyX> OerHeks: No I am not. I have only trayer app. My schoolmate told me, he has this hamster-indicator on different distro than ubuntu and running KDE, so I am trying to install it on my Gentoo + Xmonad + trayer
[23:35] <daftykins> wiak: :( out of ideas i'm afraid! beyond researching that realtek model and issues
[23:36] <FrostyX> What is that hamster.configuration python module? You have it in some ubuntu package or something?
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> FrostyX:  indicator applets dont go in the 'system tray' the inticator-applet 'thing' is a ubuntu invention to replace the old system tray
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> FrostyX:  https://github.com/shiznix/unity-gentoo/blob/master/unity-indicators/indicator-applet/indicator-applet-12.10.2_p0_p01.ebuild  might be needed. I dont use gentoo any more.  and you really should be asking in #gentoo
[23:44] <adrimirc> Hi can someone help me?
[23:45] <adrimirc> Someone?
[23:47] <gmachine_24> greetings. am looking for software to batch watermark photos... for Linux, obviously
[23:47] <jrib> gmachine_24: imagemagick
[23:47] <gmachine_24> jrib: ok I will check that out. Thanks.
[23:47] <adrimirc> Hi I have a problem with the audio I hear a distortion
[23:48] <gmachine_24> adrimirc: you need to be more specific
[23:48] <gmachine_24> adrimirc: unless you want us to guess
[23:50] <adrimirc> I use a tv as screen and when I use the tv as the sound devices with the hdmi its sounds well but when I use my Razer Megalodon headset as the audio device I hear the sound with a distortion
[23:52] <adrimirc> Someone know how to solve this?
[23:52] <gmachine_24> adrimirc: did you try just plugging speakers into the headset port to see if it's your headset?
[23:52] <gmachine_24> :-)
[23:54] <adrimirc> Yes, I plugged them in another PC and they work great
[23:57] <adrimirc> What can I do?
[23:58] <LeinardoSmith_> I am trying to set up cups and samba to serve the windows drivers as needed but I am running into an error: WERR_ACCESS_DENIED
[23:58] <LeinardoSmith_> anybody any ideas?