[07:20] <selinium> Bye all, thanks to all those that have helped today!
[07:20] <dr_willis> hmm. anyone been haveing some 'issues' with vncserver and the tightvncserver under the 64bit  disrto?
[07:21] <dr_willis> they dont seem to want to startup the x server,
[07:22] <dvsoftware> dr_willis, i'm having another issue
[07:22] <dvsoftware> maybe you know how to fix that
[07:22] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, for some reason, Palm OS devices won't open up.
[07:22] <tim> kemik, syanptic gives me these erros when I add those repos
[07:22] <tim> http://pastebin.ca/19205
[07:22] <dvsoftware> since i see that you re running 64bit
[07:22] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, oh, now it does.
[07:23] <dvsoftware> you are using nvidia?
[07:23] <dr_willis> dvsoftware,  nope - this laptop is an ati x200
[07:23] <dr_willis> and thats not supported either :P lol
[07:23] <dvsoftware> :(
[07:23] <deprave_> whuchu talkin about willis
[07:24] <dr_willis> but ive been having a lot of OTHER little issues with 64bit and other programs
[07:24] <amonkey> i ran the updater and firefox1.06 tried to update and failed with E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox and now firefox won't start
[07:24] <dvsoftware> i'm having problems with 32bit compatibility in nvidia driver
[07:24] <kemik> tim:  i can access that paste :( but try "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[07:24] <dvsoftware> i can't run any 3d game in cedega
[07:24] <dr_willis> like the smb4k program - it says first it needs the smbmnt setuid.. so i set it.. then it rants about somthing else that is not supposed to be suid.
[07:24] <dr_willis> dvsoftware,  cedega is one reason i have the 32 bit disrto on my main machine. :P
[07:25] <skalpel> how can i pass a shell script to ubuntu as a command?
[07:25] <master_of_puppet> hi, why is mencoder on gentoo 4x faster than on ubuntu? (build from source)
[07:25] <dvsoftware> dr_willis, i will setup chroot now
[07:25] <dvsoftware> i hope it will work better
[07:25] <Funraiser> Is there an app to check CPU temp and fan speed?
[07:25] <dr_willis> dvsoftware,  i read that atuff and decided to not mess with it lol
[07:25] <dr_willis> Funraiser,  'lm_sensors' can
[07:25] <Funraiser> is it a gdesklet ?
[07:25] <dr_willis> skalpel,  rephrase that perhaps..
[07:25] <dvsoftware> master_of_puppet, build mencoder from source on ubuntu too
[07:26] <dr_willis> Funraiser,  no. :P its the core sensor package.
[07:26] <dvsoftware> Funraiser, yes, lmsensors
[07:26] <master_of_puppet> dvsoftware: I did that!!!! but it didn't help!
[07:26] <skalpel> dr_willis: well in my gnome sessions menu it gives me the option to execute a command on startup, how can i execute a shell scipt there?
[07:26] <drcode> hi all
[07:26] <skalpel> hi drcode.
[07:27] <dvsoftware> master_of_puppet, did you installed optimized kernel for your cpu?
[07:27] <drcode> I try to use vgetty to recive voice / fax
[07:27] <drcode> when I try to use voice it work , but not recive fax any idea?
[07:27] <master_of_puppet> dvsoftware:  I build the kernel also my selfe.
[07:28] <Echelon-H> can anyone please help me configure a pppoe modem? I am under router now and I need something i can look into OFFLINE
[07:28] <dvsoftware> master_of_puppet, hmmmz
[07:28] <zAo^> how can I get Totem in my Empiphany in stead of Mplayer (Breezy)? Thanks
[07:28] <skalpel> how do i end a vi session?
[07:28] <Funraiser> my CPU fan is at 6000 + even at startup, is this normal?
[07:28] <Chinstrap> skalpel, end and save or end and just quit?
[07:28] <zAo^> skalpel, press ESC, :wq
[07:28] <skalpel> just quit
[07:28] <skalpel> k
[07:29] <zAo^> skalpel, no
[07:29] <equex> anyone tried the deFx plugin for XMMS ? mine crashes (and starts playing 2x speed) when i skip to a new song..then the plugin needs to be reinstalled again.
[07:29] <Chinstrap> skalpel, :wq will save, :q! will just quit
[07:29] <zAo^> skalpel, thats write-quit :#
[07:29] <skalpel> ok
[07:29] <zAo^> ;)
[07:29] <Chinstrap> skalpel, shift-ZZ will also write and quit
[07:29] <D1> does anyone know the status of NetworkManager in breezy?
[07:30] <Sammi_> dvsoftware: Do you have any idea where I might find information about CUPS?
[07:30] <Chinstrap> Sammi_, http://localhost:631 (assuming cups is running)
[07:30] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, i have disable everything except for ECalendar. I hit the HotSnyc Button on my PDA's cradle. My PDA says "Synchronizing Date Book" but evolution doesn't show any entries in the calendar view. It's been going on for 2 minutes now.
[07:31] <skalpel> can anyone tell me how to pass a shell script to the gnome session startup as a command?
[07:31] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, something is obviously crashing.  Debugging problems with gpilotd is always a hassle.  You can trying killing gpilotd and running it from a terminal and then syncing so you can watch the messages go by
[07:31] <Funraiser> dr_willis, dvsoftware thanks
[07:32] <Chinstrap> skalpel, just like you would pass any other command to gnome-session.  Just make sure the shell script is executable
[07:32] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, i have heard of  aprogram called multisnyc. will multisync help ?
[07:32] <dvsoftware> Sammi_, no sorry
[07:32] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, not for syncing evo.  Evo only talks to gpilot
[07:33] <Sonderblade> how do you set which programs that should start when xorg starts?
[07:33] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, i don't care how i sync my palmOS pda. Actually, i'm very happy with J-Pilot, but I don't think i can make the J-Pilot info readable for migration into a pocket pc, can i?
[07:33] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[07:34] <skalpel> chinstrap: ok, thank you
[07:34] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, if you just want to pull all your data use pilot-sync
[07:34] <zAo^> Sonderblade, in GDM you can
[07:34] <zAo^> Sonderblade, sudo gdmsetup
[07:34] <bigfoot1> pull? meaning pull from palm os pda to desktop pc? if so, will this data be readable for migration to a pocket pc (windows os pda)?
[07:35] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, I doubt it.
[07:35] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, so that's my problem, you see. i want to transfer my data from palm to pocket pc.
[07:35] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, good luck
[07:35] <ulaas> DO NOT USE BREEZY YET - X is still broken
[07:35] <Sonderblade> zAo^, i want to add xcompmgr but there is no option in gdmsetup to add programs
[07:36] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, i thought using evolution as a bridge would be the solution.
[07:36] <ulaas> not neccesarily.....
[07:36] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, in theory it would, but I don't know anything about syncing pocketpc devices.  Will evo even talk to those?
[07:36] <zAo^> Sonderblade, sorry, though you ment which DE :). Yust go to Menu > System > Prefs > sessions > last tab
[07:36] <ulaas> cd /usr/X11R6/bin
[07:36] <ulaas> mv X X_fixmelater
[07:36] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, oh you mean evo is meant for palm os?
[07:37] <ulaas> ln -s Xorg X
[07:37] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, evo talks to gpilotd, as far as I know, gpilotd only talks to palmos
[07:37] <Spudchat> what mail accounts can evolution take care of?
[07:37] <Chinstrap> Spudchat, anything
[07:37] <Sonderblade> zAo^, thanks
[07:38] <heien> hi all
[07:38] <Spudchat> allrighty then idiocracy on the operator's part :)
[07:38] <ulaas> i think the topic must change. Who will test and report bugs?
[07:38] <Chinstrap> Spudchat, imap, pop, groupwise, exchange, whatever
[07:38] <Spudchat> thats not just for a mail server i run correct?
[07:38] <Chinstrap> correct
[07:38] <heien> what is the name of desktop thing that works like samurize? gdi... someting?
[07:38] <Spudchat> it can import my mail like outlook and thunderbird
[07:38] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, okay, in that case, my trying to sncy with evo is pointless. there must be a way to migrate from palm to pocketpc via linux. hmmmm. i wonder what i should do.
[07:38] <heien> for gnome
[07:38] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, http://www.google.com/linux
[07:39] <Chinstrap> heien, what's samurize?
[07:39] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, thanks for your help.
[07:39] <Spudchat> allright thanks m8
[07:39] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, sorry I couldn't give you a solution
[07:39] <heien> Chinstrap, a program adding weather info, and info about allmost everything to the desktop
[07:39] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, do you have a pocketpc?
[07:39] <Chinstrap> heien, gdesklets
[07:39] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, no, just palm
[07:40] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, MS products aren't allowed in my house
[07:40] <heien> Chinstrap, thx your the best :D
[07:40] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, i see.
[07:40] <bigfoot1> this microsoft pda is allowed in my house. how can i refuse? it's free from dad.
[07:41] <Sammi_> Chinstrap: I tried to add a printer through CUPS and then it asked me for the username and password. I entered the log in name and admin password for my system, but it just asked me again.
[07:41] <icewt> Chinstrap, pity. Xbox with xboxlinux is great ;)
[07:41] <Chinstrap> Sammi_, it actually wants the root password, not sure how ubuntu handles that
[07:42] <Chinstrap> icewt, yeah, and my ps2 with ps2linux is great too :)
[07:43] <Frafra> hi all
[07:44] <Frafra> how i must uninstall a package? [the package isn't installed correctly]
[07:44] <Chinstrap> Frafra, dpkg --purge <pkg-name>
[07:44] <Blackhold> enas
[07:45] <Blackhold> hello
[07:45] <Blackhold> I've a compaq presario 2500 (a laptop with a p4 procesator)
[07:45] <Blackhold> with a modem conexant 56k aclink
[07:45] <Frafra> it says that i should reinstall it, but i haven't the package
[07:45] <Blackhold> how I have to connect the modem to internet with ubuntu?
[07:46] <Chinstrap> Blackhold, sudo pppconfig
[07:46] <Blackhold> and then will appear a modem configuration?
[07:46] <Chinstrap> Blackhold, yes
[07:47] <Chinstrap> Frafra, apt-get install <pkg-name>
[07:47] <LowBit> blackhold: aclink?
[07:47] <crashd>  sudo apt-get install ;)
[07:47] <Blackhold> _
[07:48] <Frafra> Chinstrap: i haven't it, i want only uninstall it
[07:48] <Blackhold> isn't the sudo installed in ubuntu?
[07:48] <Chinstrap> Frafra, "sudo dpkg --purge package"
[07:48] <Blackhold> I have installed a ubuntu cd
[07:49] <Frafra> Chinstrap: i've do it, but it doesn't work. it says that i should reinstall it, but i haven't it
[07:49] <Blackhold> that that comes with a live cd
[07:49] <LowBit> blackhold: aclink?
[07:49] <Blackhold> and don't questioned me for the root password :S
[07:49] <Blackhold> LowBit, yes
[07:49] <Chinstrap> Frafra, you aren't making sense.  What package are you trying to remove?
[07:49] <LowBit> blackhold: what is aclink?
[07:50] <Blackhold> LowBit, a 56k modem
[07:50] <LowBit> oh
[07:50] <Blackhold> yes here still exists it
[07:50] <LowBit> you are looking for support for it?
[07:50] <LowBit> is it a linmodem?
[07:50] <cookin__> isn't there a python-popt package for ubuntu?
[07:50] <LowBit> *winmodem
[07:51] <Blackhold> I don't don't if is it a winmodem
[07:51] <LowBit> bah
[07:51] <dr_willis> Hmm.. whats a program that will tell me what res my X is running at right now? xvidtune dont want to tell me.
[07:51] <D1> god, did I ever mention how much I love ubuntu?
[07:51] <LowBit> hang on
[07:51] <D1> its like heaven!
[07:51] <LowBit> i'll try and find you some help blackhold
[07:51] <D1> haven't had this much fun on a linux distro since slackware.
[07:51] <dr_willis> I think i got the wide screen set up right. but the circles in qcad still seem swuashed
[07:51] <Frafra> Chinstrap: it's a package .rpm that i've converted (with alien) in a deb
[07:51] <Blackhold> LokeDK,  thanks
[07:52] <balistic2> is it possible to install ubuntu
[07:52] <balistic2> through a network install
[07:52] <Chinstrap> dr_willis, xdpyinfo | grep dimensions
[07:52] <zAo^> balistic2, by jumpstarting?
[07:52] <LowBit> blackhold: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=connexant+hsf+56k+winmodem+linux+drivers&btnG=Search&meta=
[07:52] <dr_willis> Chinstrap, aha.
[07:52] <balistic2> i want to install ubuntu on my pcg c1xs vaio.. the only thing is it doesnt have a cd rom drive... right now its not running anything..
[07:52] <Chinstrap> Frafra, dpkg -l | grep <part of package name> will give you the exact name to use to pass to dpkg --purge
[07:52] <balistic2> zao^, whats jumpstarting
[07:53] <dr_willis> drat  - its still useing 1024x768
[07:53] <D1> balistic2, it is possible I believe.
[07:53] <D1> I think there is a net install for ubuntu
[07:53] <zAo^> balistic2, sorry, thought that you want to install 10+ machines. Actually I dont know
[07:53] <Chinstrap> dr_willis, look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, that will tell you why it won't use a higher resolution (bad dotclock or somethign most likely)
[07:54] <Frafra> Chinstrap: thanks!
[07:54] <balistic2> zao^, its just one computer that doesnt have a cdrom drive
[07:54] <Frafra> no
[07:54] <Frafra> it doesn't work :(
[07:54] <D1> http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71
[07:54] <balistic2> Ineed to find a way to install ubuntu with out a cd rom
[07:55] <D1> balistic2, try http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71
[07:55] <D1> maybe that'll help
[07:55] <alex____> hello, I have just merged onto ubuntu and I have some monitor resolution problem, I was looking for XF86Config-4 under /etc/X11 but its not there anylonger, any clue ?
[07:55] <D1> but I was wrong, no official net install I think.
[07:56] <dArtagnan> Where can I find the SuperKaramba excecutable?
[07:56] <D1> alex____, /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[07:56] <balistic2> d1, so is it possible
[07:56] <D1> looks like it, but with a little work.
[07:57] <balistic2> d1, can you prompt me im a litlte bit of a newb
[07:57] <balistic2> and i really wanna make this work
[07:57] <D1> just read that article
[07:57] <D1> I never tried it.
[07:57] <balistic2> d1, ok
[07:57] <Frafra> Chinstrap: it doesn't work :(
[07:58] <D1> another link if it helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29555.html
[07:58] <D1> I'd just try to borrow a cdrom
[07:58] <D1> seems like the easiest way
[07:59] <zkruw> can someone help me with this dpkg-divert problem? http://code.tzoom.se/default.asp?c=462
[07:59] <balistic2> d1, i cant find someone with an external cd rom drive
[07:59] <balistic2> d1, it doesnt seem too complicated
[08:00] <catolh> Can anyone help me get my TV as a primary screen?
[08:00] <D1> well, goodluck.
[08:00] <andril> hello all
[08:00] <andril> anyone use Inkscape?
[08:00] <D1> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/upgrade-sarge/talkback/1113587843
[08:00] <D1> theres another alternative.
[08:00] <andril> i need help with sizing wallpapers in Inkscape
[08:01] <D1> did you guys hear about OpenSuse?
[08:01] <D1> its sort of modeled like fedora
[08:01] <ed1t> i heard about ClosedSuse
[08:01] <D1> community based project
[08:02] <balistic2> d1, im having some trouble
[08:02] <dimitris> D1, yes i read it today! Great!
[08:02] <Razor-X`> odd....
[08:02] <D1> yeah, I can't wait to see what they develop.
[08:02] <D1> maybe it'll be as cutting edge as fedora
[08:02] <D1> balistic2, whats wrong?
[08:03] <ed1t> fedora == sucks
[08:03] <LowBit> fedora is alright
[08:03] <balistic2> d1, i dont understand the articles to well.. which one do you think i should follow
[08:03] <linukso> D1: then I cant see where ClosedSuse will find its place in the world, stuck between novel and opensuse
[08:04] <D1> rty this one I guess: http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71
[08:04] <D1> try*
[08:04] <Razor-X> weird....
[08:04] <D1> you'll need a /boot partition though
[08:04] <mpmc> :)
[08:04] <balistic2> how do i make one?
[08:05] <balistic2> d1, i was thinking of installing debian
[08:05] <balistic2> then working from there
[08:05] <D1> oh ok.
[08:05] <cafecalva> help
[08:05] <cafecalva> # help
[08:05] <balistic2> d1, do you concur?
[08:05] <D1> sure.
[08:05] <D1> whatever works for you dude.
[08:05] <D1> or rather, whatever gets the job done.
[08:05] <balistic2> d1, im still a newb with linux
[08:06] <D1> well, you live and learn.
[08:06] <balistic2> d1, so do you know any wiki's, howtos, or anything in lamens terms on how to install debian
[08:06] <balistic2> using floppy or net install
[08:06] <Kyral> balistic2, whatever you do DON'T DO A SUDO RM -RF /
[08:06] <D1> not off hand though. I'm sure theres a howto at the debian site.
[08:06] <Razor-X> balistic2: that's a pretty simple one right there
[08:06] <Razor-X> the Ubuntu one
[08:07] <Sputn1k> after nvidia driver installiation everything works, but after pc restart x's don't work, where is the problem?...
[08:07] <balistic2> Razor-x, i dont understand..
[08:07] <Kyral> balistic2, why not use Ubuntu?
[08:07] <Razor-X> balistic2: what don't you understand?
[08:07] <balistic2> I dont have a cdrom drive
[08:07] <Kyral> ah
[08:07] <Kyral> they make computers without CD Drives still?!
[08:07] <sidnei_> is there any known breakage going on on breezy? i've got a nightly iso yesterday and gnome wont start
[08:07] <balistic2> I have a sony vaio pcg c1xs with out a cd rom drive
[08:07] <balistic2> its an external one
[08:07] <Sputn1k> help me please.... :///
[08:08] <balistic2> i only have the floppy extension
[08:08] <Kyral> sidnei_, look at the topic :P
[08:08] <Razor-X> balistic2: what don't you understand about that guide?
[08:08] <balistic2> Razor-x, which guide lol
[08:08] <sidnei_> lol :)
[08:08] <D1> balistic2, just follow the links from the article, it'll show you.
[08:08] <Kyral> Razor-X, he needs to do a Floppy Install
[08:08] <sidnei_> funny it wasn't broken 3 days ago :)
[08:08] <D1> Once that's done, change your sources and you've got ubuntu.
[08:08] <Kyral> Sputn1k, are you using Breezy by anychance?
[08:08] <holycow> hey guys so is there any consensus on the least evil / most open chipset?
[08:08] <D1> seems easy enough
[08:08] <D1> install debian base, then change your apt sources and upgrade.
[08:08] <Sputn1k> Kyral: Horay
[08:09] <balistic2> ok..
[08:09] <balistic2> D1, i understand that
[08:09] <balistic2> but i have no idea how to install debian using floppys
[08:09] <balistic2> is tehre a script i need to right
[08:09] <balistic2> *write
[08:09] <D1> http://www.debian.org/distrib/floppyinst
[08:09] <balistic2> i need someone to just give me al ist of instructions its like i suck at this
[08:09] <Razor-X> balistic2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WithFloppies
[08:09] <D1> http://linux.simple.be/debian/floppy
[08:10] <Razor-X> balistic2: that guide should be simple enough, if you have any questions, just ask
[08:10] <D1> Razor-X, wheres the index of the wiki?
[08:10] <balistic2> Razor X i appreciate it
[08:11] <Razor-X> D1: the top page is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:11] <D1> oh duh, thanks.
[08:11] <Razor-X> ;)
[08:11] <balistic2> and thank d1,
[08:11] <D1> sure.
[08:11] <MANOWAR^> Ok i am attempting to get Active Directory+Kerberos+PAM working on a box over here
[08:11] <balistic2> sorry my gf imed me and i was side tracked
[08:11] <MANOWAR^> AD+kerberos is working
[08:11] <balistic2> but d1, thanks
[08:11] <MANOWAR^> however i cannot get PAM configured
[08:12] <D1> no problem.
[08:12] <MANOWAR^> i have tried 10 different config files
[08:12] <Razor-X> i've never worked with Kerberos myself, so, :\
[08:12] <MANOWAR^> non of them seem to even acknowledge the existance of kerberos...
[08:12] <MANOWAR^> well thats not the problematic part
[08:12] <MANOWAR^> its the PAM part
[08:13] <Razor-X> MANOWAR^: did you compile Kerberos?
[08:13] <MANOWAR^> from the command line I can use kerberos to authenticate to Active Directory
[08:13] <MANOWAR^> Razor-X, yes
[08:13] <Razor-X> MANOWAR^: you did ``make install'' right?
[08:13] <KamiVIP> hi ho:)
[08:13] <MANOWAR^> Razor-X, ok... let me try this again. the Kerberos part is working
[08:13] <MANOWAR^> its the PAM part that it is not
[08:14] <Razor-X> MANOWAR^: but for the other apps to see Kerberos, you want to make install
[08:14] <cafecalva> what is please the unix command for copying a file ? (is there a more appropriate unix beginners chanel ?)
[08:14] <Razor-X> it's also easier to refer to Kerberos that way
[08:14] <Razor-X> cafecalva: ``cp''
[08:14] <Razor-X> ``cp <file> <destination>''
[08:14] <MANOWAR^> Razor-X, yes kerberos is installed and functuioning
[08:15] <MANOWAR^> and it is there
[08:15] <KamiVIP> i was here yesterday already. today i have similar problem (again) :) my sources.list wasnt k yesterday but then i fixed it. im using this soucres.list now: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/907. when i try to install build-essential i get this message: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/930
[08:15] <cafecalva> thanks, i am trying to add JRE to my PPC/Ubuntu
[08:15] <Razor-X> MANOWAR^: I'm just asking if you ``make install''ed (for better reference to the problem)
[08:15] <MANOWAR^> ok yes i have
[08:16] <MANOWAR^> kerberos is there pam_krb5.so is where it should be
[08:16] <mastertet> Is it normal that my Gnome desktop is not very responsive? Often, there is a delay after I press a menu item, the worse cases are in openoffice, but it happens with Gnome menu as well ( have a centrino 1.3 GhZ, 256 RAM)
[08:16] <MANOWAR^> i am however unable to tell PAM to use pam_krb5 to do the authentication no matter what i do...
[08:16] <balistic2> razor-x, the floppy images they told me to install arent on there
[08:16] <balistic2> dead links
[08:16] <ompaul> KamiVIP, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:17] <crashd> hmm
[08:17] <KamiVIP> ompaul, Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog"
[08:17] <crashd> if i do a `iwlist eth1 scan` and it throws up 'failed to read scan data'
[08:17] <crashd> what is it telling me ;)
[08:17] <Razor-X> MANOWAR^: hmmmm
[08:18] <Razor-X> balistic2: there are other Debian boot floppy links
[08:18] <ompaul> KamiVIP, how are you phrasing the command to install build_essential
[08:18] <Razor-X> I suggest trying the Knoppix method, personally
[08:18] <KamiVIP> ompaul, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:18] <Razor-X> KamiVIP: ``sudo apt-get install build-essentials''
[08:19] <Pegasos989> It seems like that highlighting large areas of desktop (by dragging the cursor to make the box thingie) starts lagging significantly if you put complicated background. Why? Because the box is like partly transparent? I mean... If I change the settings of the box, will it be fast again, or do I need to change background to some simple again. :S
[08:19] <ompaul> KamiVIP, so first do apt-get update then try again
[08:19] <kemik> Pegasos989:  cool, does that for me too.. hadnt noticed before =)
[08:20] <KamiVIP> ompaul, i tried that i get same message
[08:20] <KamiVIP> ompaul, i get same message aswel if it ry to install g++
[08:20] <ompaul> KamiVIP, hmm
[08:21] <skalpel> how do i make an executable file non executable?
[08:21] <KamiVIP> chmod +x
[08:21] <skalpel> k
[08:22] <KamiVIP> ompaul, i don't have problems with other packages its strange
[08:22] <balistic2> Razor-X, i forgot to mention something
[08:22] <skalpel> kamivp: i thought that was to make a file executable?
[08:22] <balistic2> Razor-x, im not running a linux.. im runninga windows..
[08:22] <KamiVIP> oh sorry
[08:22] <KamiVIP> didnt read whore line:))
[08:22] <ompaul> KamiVIP, there is one option left that I know of and I am loath to suggest it - check the help file to understand its implications - apt-get -f install build-essential
[08:22] <Iceman-AMD64> Question what Distros currently support 64 bit .. I know Ubuntu .. SUSE... What otehrs
[08:23] <apokryphos> Iceman-AMD64: all others, generally, I believe; they just won't necessarily have great support for them.
[08:23] <crashd> gentoo
[08:23] <KamiVIP> ompaul, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[08:24] <Iceman-AMD64> Gentoo sucks for instaling ... for a newbie .. "ME"
[08:24] <KamiVIP> ompaul, so it looks like there are no corrupted packages
[08:24] <ompaul> KamiVIP, I have no other suggestions at this time, sorry I could not be of more help
[08:25] <ompaul> KamiVIP, you could try a different repository
[08:25] <KamiVIP> k np
[08:25] <ompaul> KamiVIP, I have no good reason for suggesting this other than doing nothing seems like a wasted opportunity
[08:25] <crashd> bloody wifi !
[08:26] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[08:26] <ompaul> KamiVIP, biab
[08:26] <Kyral> Building a theme around a wallpaper is a PAIN
[08:26] <skalpel> is there an app for ubuntu to unrar files using a gui?
[08:26] <CungYen_Bakpao> Does anyone know this? How can Times New Roman Be Shown in the 1st place but when i search it trough dropdown Fonts select it doesn't show?
[08:27] <EnsignRedshirt> Another bit of Firefox strangeness.  The first time I try to open a new tab, nothing happens.  After that, it works fine.  Does this happen to anyone else?
[08:27] <CungYen_Bakpao> Does anyone know this? How can Times New Roman Be Shown in the 1st place but when i search it trough dropdown Fonts select it doesn't show?
[08:27] <CungYen_Bakpao> it is Abiword i'm talking about
[08:27] <gregburd> I'm unable to swap out the caps-lock and ctrl keys using the Keyboard preferences panel.  I'm sure I'm missing something basic, help me out.
[08:27] <anacron> can you guy recommend some ftp server?
[08:27] <gregburd> I'm on a PowerBook
[08:28] <thenuke> anacron: proftpd
[08:28] <anacron> thenuke: okay, i'll try that
[08:29] <jongi> anyone know about tomcat
[08:29] <jongi> and servlets
[08:30] <skalpel> is there an app for ubuntu to unrar files using a gui?
[08:32] <gregburd> So, does anyone know how to swap out caps-lock and ctrl on a powerbook?
[08:33] <balistic2> hEy
[08:33] <balistic2> i just had a question
[08:33] <balistic2> I Just thought of
[08:33] <balistic2> You guys
[08:33] <balistic2> !!!
[08:33] <ubotu> from memory, ! is what u add before a sentence to talk to me
[08:33] <anacron> thenuke: how do i configure proftp?
[08:33] <balistic2> i have a 1gb mp3 player that serves as a memory stick...can i install ubuntu using that
[08:34] <thenuke> anacron: how about reading the documents
[08:34] <anacron> man proftp?
[08:34] <balistic2> Razor-x, are you there
[08:34] <thenuke> proftpd-doc  is the name of the doc package regarding to apt-cache search proftpd
[08:35] <anacron> okay, sorry to bother you
[08:35] <jay> Anyone know why my firefox keeps randomly closing?
[08:35] <KamiVIP> argh... i have problem with every package i try to install
[08:35] <KamiVIP> like yesterday but i didnt touch soucres.list
[08:36] <apokryphos> KamiVIP: no-one can really help without knowing the error. Pastebin is a good idea
[08:36] <mbirkis> can someone here help me set up blackbox on a hoary??
[08:36] <KamiVIP> k sorry:)
[08:36] <KamiVIP> yep
[08:36] <glitch> hi
[08:37] <anacron> mbirkis: read the topic, just ask
[08:37] <KamiVIP> am apokryphos i get error while installing packages that pachage x depends on package y but package y can not be installed
[08:37] <Pegasos989> anacron, I think he meant generally in the whole process
[08:37] <Pegasos989> So that was kinda the question
[08:37] <mbirkis> anacron, that was the question... i need help form the beginning, i am clueless ;)
[08:38] <thenuke> KamiVIP: try apt-get install y . that will tell you why it cannot install the y -packege
[08:38] <mbirkis> Pegasos989, thnx
[08:38] <DekaPink> :'(
[08:38] <anacron> mbirkis: sudo apt-get install blackbox
[08:38] <DekaPink> Ubuntu doesn't love me anymore. lol
[08:38] <apokryphos> KamiVIP: what package?
[08:38] <anacron> mbirkis: if it did work, then just log out, change system or what's the name, anyways change to boot in blackbox, and that's it
[08:38] <anacron> service it is
[08:39] <EnsignRedshirt> Anybody still using warty and using the new Firefox?
[08:39] <KamiVIP> wine
[08:39] <mbirkis> anacron, i got it installed... i need it configured... i have been reading abit on the net, and it is missing some files afaik...
[08:39] <DekaPink> My internet doesn't work on Ubuntu anymore.
[08:39] <anacron> mbirkis: okay so you lied me
[08:39] <KamiVIP> and those apokryphos libc6-dev g++ gcc
[08:39] <deb_newbie> EnsignRedshirt: yes I do
[08:39] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell KamiVIP about wine
[08:40] <anacron> mbirkis: you should ask how to configure it, not how to get it work
[08:40] <anacron> and you did know that right
[08:40] <shivy> Hya
[08:40] <mbirkis> anacron, sorry... a badly formulated questions... how to configure it was what i ment...
[08:40] <DRPAS> Does anybody can help me with my ubuntu waty instalation please?
[08:40] <KamiVIP> apokryphos, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/932 thats for last 3
[08:41] <anacron> mbirkis: well i don't know, ask someone else :D
[08:41] <KamiVIP> apokryphos,  and forum wine http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/933
[08:41] <KamiVIP> forum = for*
[08:41] <apokryphos> KamiVIP: yeah, follow the instructions on that page. You may need to enable more repositories
[08:41] <EnsignRedshirt> deb_newbie: When you start up Firefox, does File->New Tab work the first time?
[08:41] <capisce> so, where can I get tuxracer?
[08:41] <bwlang> DRPAS: just aska specific question... somebody may answer
[08:41] <Pegasos989> DRPAS, I think that at the forums is a whole area for installation.
[08:41] <DRPAS> Please somebody can help me with GRUB
[08:41] <KamiVIP> am apokryphos that was my problem yesterday and some guy from here have me sources.list which i should use and it worked till now
[08:42] <DRPAS> I have installed warty in my pc
[08:42] <DRPAS> with amd64
[08:42] <apokryphos> KamiVIP: could you pastebin then your sources.list?
[08:42] <DRPAS> the first thing is that my windows 2000 pro doesnt boot anymore
[08:42] <DRPAS> i have make the windows 2000 pro partition active again
[08:42] <KamiVIP> apokryphos,  yes: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/907
[08:42] <anacron> well isn't that just good?
[08:42] <DRPAS> to gain access to windoze
[08:43] <DRPAS> but when i activate again the Warty partition
[08:43] <apokryphos> KamiVIP: looks fine; does sudo apt-get update produce any errors?
[08:43] <DRPAS> it doesnt boot
[08:43] <DRPAS> it only says GRUB
[08:43] <DRPAS> and thats it
[08:43] <DRPAS> what can i do?
[08:43] <KamiVIP> apokryphos,  nop
[08:43] <KamiVIP> apokryphos, no erros on update
[08:44] <apokryphos> KamiVIP: did you follow the instructions on that link for installing wine?
[08:44] <bwlang> DRPAS: you don't seem to understand the meaning of specific....  you would be better served by posting the exact line that fails to boot your system
[08:44] <DekaPink> I wonder why my internet would just... stop working on my ubuntu partition. :3
[08:44] <balistic2> Razor-x, are you there
[08:44] <KamiVIP> yes
[08:44] <balistic2> kamivip, your not razor-x
[08:45] <KamiVIP> apokryphos,  but i cant install any of packages listed in topic because i get same message as for wine and other packages
[08:45] <apokryphos> KamiVIP: have you done sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[08:45] <_SWAT_> anyone here got NFS running? Somehow it won't run here. I've installed everything as the howto described. Yet I get a "mount: RPC: Program not registered"
[08:45] <KamiVIP> apokryphos, yes but i get that message again
[08:46] <apokryphos> KamiVIP: which one? The errors are different.
[08:46] <KamiVIP> apokryphos, like for all packages packaacge x depends on more packages which cant be installed
[08:46] <KamiVIP> apokryphos, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/934
[08:47] <KamiVIP> apokryphos, had exactly the same error yesterday but it was fixed while i changed my soucres.list
[08:47] <lonelyzora> hi
[08:47] <mgbaron> hi, i have a quick question.  at my workplace we are using samba to share files from our server.  My desktop is running linux, is there anyway i can mount this more directly through SSH?  I can use "connect to servers" through gnome, but I need them actually mounted.  any advice?
[08:47] <raDeon> hi
[08:47] <raDeon> wtf u ant
[08:47] <raDeon> want
[08:47] <apokryphos> KamiVIP: weird. You must have broken packages somewhere. What happens when you try to fix broken packages from synaptic or apt?
[08:48] <lonelyzora> ...
[08:48] <raDeon> lol
[08:48] <LasseL> mgbaron, look up smbfs
[08:48] <_SWAT_> NFS just won't run. Help!     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo?highlight=%28nfs%29
[08:48] <KamiVIP> apokryphos, nothing: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/935
[08:49] <pompeyrodney> can anyone help a newbie brew such as myself getting a scroll wheel to work on an intellimouse
[08:50] <LasseL> mgbaron, something like this in your /etc/fstab will make a permanent mount: //enoch/data    /media/enoch_data      smbfs   rw,credentials=/home/lasse/.smbpasswd,uid=lasse,gid=data 0 0
[08:50] <apokryphos> KamiVIP: very weird. I'm not sure if it's worth using a different mirror in your sources... you could try, if you want
[08:50] <apokryphos> KamiVIP: i.e. giannaros.org/sources.list
[08:51] <KamiVIP> apokryphos, yep it's weird it worked till now. gonna try different mirror now, thanks for the list
[08:51] <mgbaron> lassel, i have it mounted via smbfs, but it goes slow and seems uneccesary.  is there a better way?
[08:51] <mgbaron> LasseL, I have it in the /etc/fstab.  thanks for the advice
[08:51] <mgbaron> i just goes slower than my straight ssh connection
[08:51] <apokryphos> Ok, good luck
[08:51] <KamiVIP> thanks
[08:52] <KamiVIP> ah to bad i get same error:\
[08:52] <LasseL> mgbaron, I find that I need to remount mine now and then .. other than that it seems fast enough. Perhaps you should check the samba servers log
[08:53] <LasseL> mgbaron, I do have the problem that if I loose conneciton to a single mount ALL mounts including those to other machines seems to hang until I remount
[08:54] <pompeyrodney> anyone know how breezy is coming along
[08:54] <KamiVIP> so anyone else have some idead, thats my problem: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/932
[08:54] <balistic2> i am the linux kking
[08:54] <balistic2> hear me roar
[08:55] <mgbaron> LasseL, thanks, you have basically answered my questions.  i will check the log
[08:56] <pestilence> KamiVIP: you using some non-standard repositories?
[08:56] <pestilence> KamiVIP: like, backports?
[08:57] <reisio> the best bash command ever: while(true); do for i in 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0.9 0.8 0.7 0.6 0.5 0.4 0.3 0.2 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9 1; do xgamma -gamma $i; done; done
[08:57] <Draucon> how do i set xmms as the default for cd audio?
[08:57] <LasseL> reisio, then you must also like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L33t_programming_language
[08:57] <reisio> LasseL: heheh, or whitespace
[08:57] <KamiVIP> hehe pestilence thats was my problem yesterday then i used another list which was working untill now but it isnt working anymore. today i trided this:  giannaros.org/sources.list but it isnt working either
[08:58] <reisio> Draucon: you have the CD icon on your desktop?
[08:58] <reisio> Draucon: using GNOME?
[08:58] <Draucon> yeah
[08:58] <KamiVIP> pestilence,  thats my list which fixed my problem yesterday and worked untill now: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/907
[08:58] <Draucon> ohh just right click
[08:58] <Draucon> yes gnome
[08:58] <reisio> Draucon: I imagine you can just right-click, properties, open-with
[08:58] <pestilence> KamiVIP: first step, comment out everything that doesn't start with an ubuntu.com address
[08:59] <reisio> Draucon: and have the association stick, I forget how...stopped using GNOME
[08:59] <KamiVIP> pestilence, here (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/907) everythins ends with ubuntu but same problems
[09:01] <pestilence> KamiVIP: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/936
[09:01] <KamiVIP> pestilence, thanks gonna try those
[09:03] <KamiVIP> pestilence, i tried those and i get same messages
[09:03] <pestilence> KamiVIP: about libc6?
[09:04] <mbirkis> how do i run things automatically on X start?? there is no .xinitrc file as i can find...
[09:05] <KamiVIP> pestilence, well yes and about other stuff too, like this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/933 and http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/934
[09:05] <difeta> Is there a vpn client out there that lets me connect to a windows vpn?
[09:05] <macgyver2> mbirkis, are you using Gnome?
[09:05] <mbirkis> macgyver2, nope...
[09:05] <mbirkis> macgyver2, blackbox
[09:06] <pestilence> KamiVIP: did you do apt-get update?
[09:06] <balistic2> blackbox Sucks
[09:06] <macgyver2> mbirkis, then I think you can just make a .xinitrc...have you tried that yet?
[09:06] <Fanskapet> difeta openVPN
[09:06] <mbirkis> macgyver2, good idea, i'll try it
[09:06] <macgyver2> mbirkis, it was that way when I used to use fluxbox
[09:06] <mbirkis> balistic2, thnx for that insightful info!
[09:07] <KamiVIP> pestilence, yep i did
[09:07] <mbirkis> macgyver2, thnx alot
[09:07] <macgyver2> mbirkis, np
[09:07] <pestilence> KamiVIP: what does "dpkg -l libc6" tell you about the version installed?
[09:07] <Fanskapet> damn samba
[09:07] <Fanskapet> something is *fucked up* with my two ubuntu installations
[09:08] <Fanskapet> i wonder why the XFCE samba-browser won't work here at home but do work at my brothers place..
[09:08] <Fanskapet> hummz
[09:08] <KamiVIP> pestilence, ii  libc6            2.3.2.ds1-22     GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone dat
[09:08] <jay> Can someone please help me figure out why my firefox browser keeps closing unexpectedly?
[09:09] <reisio> jay: stop visiting porn sites! j/k
[09:09] <pestilence> KamiVIP: seems you have screwed your system up
[09:09] <Belutz> anyone using Visual Paradigm ?
[09:09] <reisio> jay: it doesn't do it with particular sites only?
[09:09] <pestilence> KamiVIP: you have the wrong version of libc6
[09:09] <jay> dunno
[09:09] <MagiPink> Well... It's been a good couple of weeks, but it looks like my Ubuntu adventure is at an end. :3
[09:09] <wdh> hi ppls.. what would be the best way to burn a *.bin to cd without the .cue available?
[09:09] <reisio> jay: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=9
[09:09] <KamiVIP> pestilence, oh, so what can i do then
[09:09] <Razor-X> KamiVIP: was this a Debian box before?
[09:10] <jay> it does it with runescape while using java i know that
[09:10] <reisio> MagiPink: why's that?
[09:10] <KamiVIP> Razor-X, nop ubuntu. i installed it yesterday
[09:10] <reisio> jay: ah, well Java isn't the most stable of things :p
[09:10] <reisio> jay: how 'bout pages that don't use Java?
[09:10] <Razor-X> KamiVIP: you said your sources.list was bad before, did you have debian sources in there?
[09:10] <pestilence> KamiVIP: sudo aptitude install libc6=2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13
[09:10] <pestilence> KamiVIP: is the first step
[09:11] <Razor-X> try sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[09:11] <MagiPink> reisio: My internet no longer seems to work on it. :3
[09:11] <Razor-X> that should replace all your bad crap, with the correct equivalents
[09:11] <reisio> MagiPink: ever consider fixing it?
[09:11] <difeta> Fanskapet, thanks. Now.. how to configure....
[09:11] <KamiVIP> Razor-X, nop i had blackports then i changed to ones im using now and it worked untill now
[09:11] <jay> hmmm
[09:11] <macgyver2> jay, I don't know much about firefox errors...but a suggestion might be start firefox from a terminal...when it unexpectedly quits it might throw up some info that could help
[09:12] <wdh> gregg_, you gave me a script to convert *.bin to *.iso.. but somehow this screwed up the video.. the .bin plays fine in mplayer, while the .iso gives a beautifull mess of colours :S
[09:12] <KamiVIP> pestilence, working on this
[09:12] <MagiPink> reisio: No, never. Such a strange idea never crossed my mind. :P I don't know what to do to fix it since I don't know what I might have done to break it.
[09:12] <Fanskapet> difeta that i don't know at the moment since I have no real use for it before i get my DSL from that damned Telia
[09:12] <reisio> MagiPink: well ask this here channel for help :)
[09:12] <KamiVIP> pestilence, done
[09:12] <pestilence> KamiVIP: it worked?  well, you should be able to do something similar with any other package it complains about
[09:12] <alex____> hey I have installed ubuntu and everything works appart form a slight problem of display
[09:12] <Choudeshell> Hello all.
[09:12] <alex____> my fonts are blur and I guess this is because I am using a nvidia card for which I need to download a proper driver
[09:13] <alex____> I went onto the nvidia site and they ask for my kernel source
[09:13] <MagiPink> I'm thinking you'll all need something more than 'my internet stopped working' xD
[09:13] <alex____> to built a kernel interface for the installer
[09:13] <Choudeshell> How far backed up is ShipIT?
[09:13] <pestilence> if it says "i'm trying to install x version 123 but x version 234 is installed"
[09:13] <alex____> I have done an apt-get installe linux-source-2.6.10 but it still asks for the kernel source
[09:13] <KamiVIP> pestilence, thanks. it works now. just installing build-essential. gonna try wine now
[09:13] <difeta> Fanskapet, ok.. thanks
[09:13] <alex____> I am a bit stuck
[09:13] <alex____> any help would be appreciated
[09:13] <gregg_> wdh: uhh, that's bad
[09:13] <pestilence> KamiVIP: then sudo aptitude install x=123
[09:13] <MagiPink> It said something about... pap connection failing when I did plog.
[09:13] <gregg_> wdh: this only works reliable with data CDs
[09:13] <Fanskapet> difeta np.. look at openvpn.org i think there was plenty of good documentation over there
[09:14] <wdh> gregg_, ok, so then i should maybe figure a way to generate a .cue for this .bin
[09:14] <gregg_> wdh: sorry for not telling you this :)
[09:14] <KamiVIP> pestilence, k doing it
[09:14] <wdh> gregg_, nm, just costs me a cdr :P
[09:14] <KamiVIP> pestilence, done
[09:14] <alex____> anyone ?
[09:14] <icewt> alex____, linux-headers-2.6.10-(something)
[09:15] <alex____> ok
[09:15] <alex____> thansk
[09:15] <pestilence> alex____: linux-headers-`uname -r`
[09:15] <Razor-X> KamiVIP: try sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[09:15] <wdh> gregg_, you have any ideas on how to proceed?
[09:15] <Choudeshell> Does anyone know what the waiting list for the Unbuntu CDs are from ShipIt?
[09:16] <Razor-X> anywhere from 1-4 weeks, IIRC
[09:16] <wdh> Choudeshell, depends.. i've ordered well before hoary even was out :P
[09:16] <KamiVIP> Razor-X, am i removed ubuntu-desktop package yesterday
[09:16] <wdh> Choudeshell, so i'm waiting since march now..
[09:16] <Razor-X> KamiVIP: ........... why did you remove it?
[09:16] <Razor-X> are you using Kubunut?
[09:16] <andypassword> hello?
[09:16] <Razor-X> s/Kubunut/Kubuntu/
[09:16] <gregg_> wdh: if it's an (S)VCD take a look at .cue's of other images
[09:16] <Razor-X> andypassword: hey
[09:17] <wdh> gregg_, thx.. i'll try and find some
[09:17] <gregg_> wdh: (S)VCD images of course :)
[09:17] <Fanskapet> hmm XFCE really owns KDE, nice with a slick and light GUI
[09:17] <Choudeshell> wdh, I order about 200 for a college event closely approaching and I was wondering if they would arrive on time.
[09:17] <Razor-X> i've modded my box so heavily, XFce refuses to work ;)
[09:17] <Razor-X> as does Fluxbox
[09:17] <wdh> gregg_, although everyone seems to loose them :P
[09:17] <KamiVIP> Razor-X, am apt-get ddi it :P i removed some packages i didnt like which came with fresh installation but they needed to remove ubuntu-desktop :)
[09:17] <selinium_> how do you rename the computer?
[09:17] <wdh> Choudeshell, try to call Canonical then..
[09:18] <gregg_> Fanskapet: yeah, and it sure has a shell as powerful as konqueror :p
[09:18] <Razor-X> KamiVIP: maybe that's why the box is broken? ;)
[09:18] <Choudeshell> wdh, is their number on their site?
[09:18] <wdh> Choudeshell, they seem to have some arrangements for cd's needed for events..
[09:18] <wdh> Choudeshell, i think it was mentioned in the FAQ on shipit
[09:18] <reisio> gregg_: shell?
[09:18] <Fanskapet> george___, shell? filemanager you mean?
[09:18] <reisio> gregg_: file manager, y'mean?
[09:18] <wdh> Choudeshell, or maybe it was an emailaddress :)
[09:18] <Razor-X> gregg_: Konsole is pretty nice
[09:18] <Choudeshell> wdh, they did mention, but I never heard back
[09:18] <Razor-X> Eterm is nicer, though
[09:19] <Fanskapet> i use gnome-terminal really
[09:19] <gregg_> you can also call a graphical file manager a 'shell'
[09:19] <reisio> the future Xfce file manager will be nice :) : http://thunar.xfce.org/wiki/ui:suggestion-20050320
[09:19] <KamiVIP> Razor-X, no idea. dont think so. i searched forum before i removed it. i found topic where one guy said that you can remove ubuntu-desktop. its not important file
[09:19] <Fanskapet> but good old xterm would work fine for me too
[09:19] <reisio> gregg_: you can, but nobody does :p
[09:19] <gregg_> Razor-X: it's just a terminal emulator though
[09:19] <Razor-X> gregg_: I use ``juts a terminal emulator'' all day long
[09:19] <Belutz> Razor-X: hai! how r u today?
[09:19] <Fanskapet> i just use gnome-terminal for the tabs nothing more nothing less :)
[09:19] <Razor-X> this _is_ my working space, I have to have it so that my eyes don't go bad from staring at the Terminal
[09:19] <Razor-X> Belutz: hey
[09:19] <reisio> Fanskapet: just for the tabs?
[09:20] <Fanskapet> reisio well mostly atleast :)
[09:20] <reisio> Fanskapet: there's a package called "terminal" for Xfce that has tabs...mega unbloated compared to gnome-terminal
[09:20] <gregg_> for a file manager I'm really interested in things like the kioslaves
[09:20] <gregg_> e.g. a VFS for sftp, ftp, webdav and stuff like that
[09:20] <Razor-X> with screen, tabs are useless
[09:20] <reisio> Razor-X: nonsense
[09:20] <Razor-X> reisio: in the Terminal, i'ld think so
[09:20] <gregg_> Razor-X: me too :)
[09:20] <Fanskapet> reisio okey well maybe i'l take that in consideration then.. but i have no access to internet via ubuntu right now since Telia fucked up their installation-date.. for the third time :(
[09:20] <MagiPink> The only thing I can think of that may have screwed up the internet on my ubuntu is that I installed guarddog... and then I really couldn't figure it out so I uninstalled it... I don't know if that would have left anything behind that would have been less than helpful.
[09:21] <Fanskapet> and my internal modem won't work in ubuntu.
[09:21] <reisio> Fanskapet: http://www.os-cillation.com/article.php?sid=40
[09:21] <Razor-X> it costs more CPU to create and maintain a tab than it does to create and maintain a screen
[09:21] <reisio> Razor-X: tabs are nice
[09:21] <f_newton> MagiPink, flush your iptables
[09:21] <reisio> lol
[09:21] <Fanskapet> Razor-X, yes it does but it's more usefull
[09:21] <Razor-X> reisio: what are it's advantages over screen?
[09:21] <reisio> like 0.00000000007% :p
[09:21] <gregg_> screen is much more versatile than using different tabs
[09:22] <reisio> Razor-X: sameness with all my other GUIs
[09:22] <MagiPink> f_newton: How would I do that?
[09:22] <Razor-X> reisio: oh, you care about the tab actually being there in the GUI?
[09:22] <reisio> Razor-X: firefox, xchat, terminal - all have tabs, top left to right
[09:22] <Fanskapet> Razor-X, _way_ better overview with two tabs than two 'screen'
[09:22] <reisio> Razor-X: well what else is the point of a tab :p
[09:22] <f_newton> I guess in ubuntu you would open up a root terminal and type iptables flush all or type iptables -h for the correct syntax
[09:23] <Razor-X> can you detach a session of tabs?
[09:23] <MagiPink> f_newton: Thank you. :D
[09:23] <Razor-X> and return to it later, after you switch WMs?
[09:23] <pestilence> Razor-X: you need tabs to have screens on multiple machines :-P
[09:23] <reisio> Razor-X: I have very good reasons to use X, the tabs are just a perk
[09:23] <Fanskapet> reisio, does o
[09:23] <asfra> If I cant get my printer working does it have to be that I'm missing the driver or do I have to mount it? thanks..
[09:23] <Razor-X> pestilence: you can't use multiple terms? ;)
[09:23] <Fanskapet> reisio, does it build on amd64 bit?
[09:23] <f_newton> Razor-X, look this is a gui based os complete with closed root acct... so dont start acting all cli high n might
[09:23] <f_newton> y
[09:23] <pestilence> Razor-X: same difference
[09:23] <Razor-X> asfra: printers don't need to be mounted
[09:23] <reisio> Fanskapet: I wouldn't know
[09:23] <Razor-X> f_newton: I think it is *shrugs*
[09:23] <f_newton> debianites...sheeesh
[09:24] <f_newton> lol
[09:24] <reisio> Fanskapet: don't see why it wouldn't, but I've really no idea
[09:24] <Razor-X> asfra: what style printer is it?
[09:24] <reisio> ubuntuites complaining about debianites...rofl
[09:24] <Razor-X> not to say I don't like eyecandy -- just not what i'm working with
[09:24] <f_newton> yeah...
[09:24] <Fanskapet> reisio seems to miss some nice things that the gnome one has though like displaying the path as tab-names instead of just "tab 1" "tab 2" etc.
[09:24] <asfra> no, that's what I thought.. so if I the driver was a part of the distro it would work. It's an old Hp descjet 690...
[09:24] <Razor-X> ubuntians or ubunscist ;)
[09:24] <f_newton> just the snobbery
[09:24] <Razor-X> s/ubunscist/ubunscists/
[09:24] <Razor-X> f_newton: I think you're being snobby about the GUI
[09:25] <f_newton> that sounds to dictatorshipish for me
[09:25] <reisio> Fanskapet: uh, that's completely dependent on your ~/.bashrc :p
[09:25] <f_newton> ooh I see
[09:25] <Razor-X> everyone assosciates ``cist'' with dictatorship ;)
[09:25] <Razor-X> and communist with ``evil''
[09:25] <reisio> Fanskapet: my "terminal" uses paths, because I've configured my ~/.bashrc to do it that way
[09:25] <f_newton> ubuntunions?
[09:25] <Razor-X> hmmm, that's a bit long
[09:25] <Fanskapet> reisio ah okey.
[09:25] <Razor-X> ubuntians are cool
[09:25] <pestilence> reisio: can you get konsole to do that?
[09:25] <Razor-X> like martians
[09:25] <asfra> Razor-X: many typos there..  would it work if I had the driver installed, or do I have to write something? it's a HP 690...
[09:25] <pestilence> reisio: (in the title)
[09:26] <Razor-X> asfra: then, i'm thinking CUPS includes that driver
[09:26] <balistic2> Razor-x
[09:26] <f_newton> cups should
[09:26] <reisio> pestilence: undoubtedly
[09:26] <Razor-X> lemme do a google search on that
[09:26] <onur> Hello i want to install eclipse 3.1. How should i do it ? i don't think it is in the repos
[09:26] <alex____> an nvidia installer ask for the kernel source tree to be installed, I have installed the linux-source and the linux-header but this is not what is required, any idea what should I installed  ?
[09:26] <balistic2> razor-x, i tried the floppy installation... but for some reason.. the second floppy wasnt working it said not a bootable floppy
[09:26] <Razor-X> it should include a CUPS driver
[09:26] <asfra> Razor-X: ok, I will google it..
[09:26] <reisio> Fanskapet: pestilence: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/
[09:26] <Fanskapet> well it has some nice things as anti-alias and stuff.
[09:26] <pestilence> reisio: i have some doubts
[09:27] <f_newton> I have some cookies
[09:27] <Razor-X> balistic2: did you try the Knoppix method?
[09:27] <reisio> pestilence: I don't
[09:27] <Razor-X> f_newton: delete them! ;)
[09:27] <balistic2> razor-x, no i didnt
[09:27] <pestilence> reisio: i'm not talking about prompts
[09:27] <f_newton> I am working on it ... munch munch
[09:27] <Razor-X> balistic2: that's a better method, IMO
[09:27] <balistic2> razor-x, can you explain to me what it does exactly
[09:27] <pestilence> reisio: i'm talking about the tab title
[09:27] <pestilence> reisio: maybe i should have been clearer/maybe i misunderstood what you were discussing
[09:27] <reisio> pestilence: so am I
[09:27] <onur> How should i install a program that is not available in the repos ?
[09:28] <Razor-X> balistic2: a floppy is put into the drive to search for the Knoppix CD (which means you can use external CD ROMs) boots Knoppix, then installs Ubuntu from there
[09:28] <f_newton> onur very carefully
[09:28] <Razor-X> hold on a sec
[09:28] <onur> f_newton, more specifically ?
[09:28] <reisio> pestilence: it would be ridiculous if konsole couldn't handle it, so I'm almost positive it can
[09:28] <f_newton> onur there are a couple of things to worry about
[09:28] <reisio> pestilence: this is incredibly old, simple, low-level stuff
[09:28] <Razor-X> there we are
[09:28] <balistic2> Razor-x, but thats the thing.. i dont have a cdrom drive
[09:28] <f_newton> 1. dependencies 2. kernel compatibility
[09:28] <pestilence> reisio: i don't think konsole gets its title from the prompt
[09:28] <Razor-X> balistic2: none whatsoever?
[09:28] <Razor-X> I thought you said you had an external one
[09:28] <balistic2> not on the lap top
[09:28] <balistic2> no i said i couldnt findone
[09:29] <Razor-X> ahhh
[09:29] <Razor-X> hold on then
[09:29] <onur> f_newton, i am trying to install eclipse. It has no such problems i know
[09:29] <pestilence> reisio: ok, so the *title* of the window changes to the prompt.  but not the *tab name*
[09:29] <f_newton> usually if its a modern build on a noarch platform tarball you can get it to work
[09:29] <balistic2> yeah cuz i read the knopix and i wasnt sure whaty ou wanted me to do lol
[09:29] <reisio> pestilence: the tab name usually becomes the title
[09:29] <f_newton> onur try to see if there is a deb package on the eclipse web site
[09:29] <reisio> pestilence: but however it works, I'm sure you can do it with Konsole
[09:29] <pestilence> reisio: ok.
[09:29] <reisio> pestilence: try what that page I linked you says
[09:30] <znh> how to mount a floppy drive without readonly?
[09:30] <pestilence> reisio: i already have a bashrc that changes the window title based on the path...but the tab names dont' change
[09:30] <Razor-X> balistic2: I also suggest that you install Flubox as your WM, if the laptop is that old
[09:30] <Razor-X> not Fluxbox, but XFce rather ;)
[09:30] <balistic2> yeah i like xfce
[09:30] <znh> someone tell me please, it's important
[09:30] <onur> f_newton,  there's not
[09:30] <balistic2> xfce kicks ass
[09:30] <balistic2> but the thing is i plan to put this comp as part of the network
[09:30] <Razor-X> balistic2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[09:30] <balistic2> so i can use it for music storage and stuff
[09:30] <f_newton> well try the tarball. is there a gz or bz2?
[09:31] <reisio> pestilence: maybe check preferences or something
[09:31] <onur> f_newton, in general suppose that i have a source code. is the convetional "make install" smart way to do it
[09:31] <reisio> pestilence: I almost never use KDE, so I wouldn't know exactly how to do it, but I would be dumbfounded if it couldn't
[09:31] <f_newton> if yo know how to "make" a package sure...
[09:31] <balistic2> razor-x, my mom was telling me about a netboot but i wasnt sure about it.. do i need floppyys?
[09:32] <onur> f_newton, there's a tarball but eclipse is a java application you just download and run it.
[09:32] <reisio> balistic2: say what?
[09:32] <Razor-X> balistic2: one, but that should be all
[09:32] <onur> f_newton, tarball includes the binaries only
[09:32] <Razor-X> balistic2: your mom? wow, she's more knowledgeable than mine ;)
[09:32] <f_newton> the binaries are what makes the program work
[09:32] <balistic2> razor-x, my moms a systems admin and unix consultant for hbo
[09:33] <f_newton> source code is for building
[09:33] <onur> f_newton, for other tarballs you say that i should try to build a package rather than compiling it in te convetional way ?
[09:33] <f_newton> onur for tarballs I just tar -zxvf filename
[09:33] <onur> f_newton, then ?
[09:33] <f_newton> it installs
[09:33] <f_newton> some are sh scripts
[09:33] <psychonate> I don't even think you need the "-" anymore
[09:33] <Razor-X> balistic2: holy shit ;), why are you in this channel then?
[09:34] <onur> f_newton,  configure, make make install ?
[09:34] <f_newton> onur ... you have no clue do you?
[09:34] <Razor-X> unfortunately, Ubuntu doesen't have a specific netinstall
[09:34] <balistic2> razor-x, cuz shes always busy lol
[09:34] <onur> f_newton,  i didn't get what you mean
[09:34] <Razor-X> what you are doing is booting from a signal that's being sent on the network by another machine
[09:35] <f_newton> if you have a tarball, a deb pkg, or an rpm why do you need to "make"?
[09:35] <balistic2> razor-x, oh ok... so right now.. i have a corrupted windows 98 that says a bunch of shit is missing
[09:35] <dishfish> hmm... Any of YOU were present in the annual Debconf in Helsinki? On the Ubuntu side... is there a plan to ensure full compatibility with Debian packages?
[09:35] <Razor-X> you cando some real magic with netboots (like running KDE on a 486 ;)
[09:35] <Razor-X> balistic2: on this box, or on your other box?
[09:35] <balistic2> razor-x, crazy
[09:35] <reisio> balistic2: 98, yeesh
[09:35] <Razor-X> s/cando/can do/
[09:35] <balistic2> razor-x, on my small sony  vaio
[09:35] <reisio> dishfish: that is a really good question
[09:36] <Razor-X> balistic2: is that the box you want to install to?
[09:36] <balistic2> yes
[09:36] <dishfish> [running KDE on aremote host form a 486]
[09:36] <reisio> dishfish: I'd like to know that myself
[09:36] <onur> f_newton,  but also i usually and mostly get the source code usually only this is available then what should i do ?
[09:36] <balistic2> razor-x, my sony vaio pcg c1xs
[09:36] <tahorg> Razor-X: you mean exporting X.
[09:36] <Razor-X> balistic2: hmmm, why not try an interim Live CD?
[09:36] <reisio> dishfish: if so I can stop bashing Ubuntu
[09:36] <Razor-X> tahorg: yeah, but it's still netboot magic ;)
[09:36] <balistic2> razor,x what is that
[09:36] <tahorg> Razor-X: no it isn't
[09:36] <novatux> i have problem with kubuntu, i cant see the characters in the console, sorry my english is bad
[09:36] <balistic2> razor-x, whats that
[09:36] <novatux> anybody i can help me?
[09:36] <f_newton> if it was a tarball of the source code then yes you would have to build the package, but if its the package compacted in tarball form you just need to unpack it... some need to be ./installed some need to be sh installed some install themselves after unpacking
[09:37] <Razor-X> tahorg: errr, sorry, not that, I meant Clustering *my bad*
[09:37] <dishfish> reisio, has the Shuttleworth Foundation or Canonical reported on a strategy?
[09:37] <tahorg> Razor-X: netboot can't run kde on a 486
[09:37] <Razor-X> balistic2: Linux live CDs
[09:37] <reisio> dishfish: dunno, but I'm looking
[09:37] <Razor-X> tahorg: thin client
[09:37] <tahorg> Razor-X: clustering ? :)
[09:37] <Fanskapet> hmm well well just need to find out what's bugging the smb-client then my ubuntu installation is complete :P
[09:37] <tahorg> Razor-X: thin client == exporting X :)
[09:37] <Razor-X> tahorg: yeah
[09:37] <f_newton> onur if there are installation instructions follow them
[09:37] <Razor-X> tahorg: I was clustering with that thing
[09:37] <balistic2> razor-x, arent live cds only to try it out...and even so.. i still dont have a cd drive on this vaio
[09:37] <Razor-X> (even if it was pretty shitty)
[09:37] <Razor-X> balistic2: but, your current OS is not working
[09:37] <onur> f_newton, what if it is directly binary to run. Should i download and just leave it ?
[09:38] <reisio> novatux: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xorg_and_Fonts#What_to_do_if_the_Linux_font_in_Konsole_doesn.27t_work
[09:38] <tahorg> Razor-X: clustering is something else. sorry. :(
[09:38] <reisio> novatux: see if that helps
[09:38] <dishfish> I think that by uniting the repositories between Ubuntu and Debian, we could more than double the server/developer  capacity, and as well import software that is not yet present in the both distros
[09:38] <f_newton> the binary is the actual program itself
[09:38] <novatux> thanks reisio
[09:38] <tahorg> Razor-X: clustering is sharing the computing power between machines.
[09:38] <Razor-X> tahorg: exactly
[09:38] <jono> when I use apt-get build-dep <package> it says that the dependencies could not be satisfied, but it works on another machine, how can I find out which packages are screwing up?
[09:38] <f_newton> you usually have binary and source
[09:38] <Razor-X> tahorg: that's what I was using netbooting for
[09:38] <dishfish> We could do magic in the custom distribution -field
[09:38] <tahorg> ok
[09:38] <reisio> novatux: will be differentish, but perhaps it will give you a notion of what's wrong
[09:39] <damneinstien> does anyone have any experience with cpufreqd on centrino?
[09:39] <onur> f_newton, yeah i know. I mean suppose that  i want that (binary) program available system wide and can be uninstalled just like packes then what should i do
[09:39] <Razor-X> balistic2: if you really want to ditch Ubuntu (which I think is solid any way you use it), then Debian's netinstall is nice
[09:39] <onur> packes = packages
[09:39] <Razor-X> oh wait, you can't use a Live CD........... :(
[09:39] <dishfish> me has fallen in love with Transmeta Efficeon, so if you ask me of any other processor -except of my secret mistress pteron.. dunno
[09:39] <f_newton> uninstalled?
[09:40] <novatux> ok reisio
[09:40] <jono> anyone?
[09:40] <Razor-X> balistic2: if you have the time, install a basic Debian netinstall, and install Ubuntu from there
[09:40] <f_newton> to uninstall find the file location in the directory and rm it
[09:40] <onur> f_newton, you can uninstall the packages right ?
[09:40] <f_newton> if you used a package manager like apt or yum or the like yes
[09:40] <Razor-X> balistic2: you will simply install Debian, then changes the sources.list entries to the corresponding Ubuntu entries, then ``sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop''
[09:40] <Razor-X> f_newton: yum, ewww
[09:41] <f_newton> if you used a manual installation like a tarball you still can uninstall it but you have to do that manually as well
[09:41] <onur> f_newton,  i am just trying to figure out a general smart policy in my mind  to install  various types program
[09:41] <f_newton> yeah yum is the reason Im here Razor-X
[09:41] <balistic2> omg.. im so confused
[09:41] <Razor-X> on an RPM distro, I _have_ to use apt-rpm
[09:41] <balistic2> Razor-x, You mean install with floppys
[09:41] <yhager> anyone has experience with NetworkManager?
[09:41] <f_newton> onur smart is to use the approved repos only
[09:41] <Pegasos989> Tm komento lukee kyll ubuntuguiden sivuilla, mutta se vain kuulostaa niin pelottavalta, ett tytyy tarkistaa... Eikai "killall gnome-panel" tee mitn pahaa? :(
[09:41] <f_newton> yeah yhager
[09:41] <dishfish> reisio can you msg me if you find anything from the Debian-Ubuntu compatibility, cos i'd neerd it in importing stuff in the next release of Skolelinux http://www.skolelinux.org/portal
[09:41] <onur> f_newton, but forexample there is no way to use eclipse through repos
[09:41] <yhager> f_newton, together with resolvconf?
[09:41] <balistic2> Razor-x, i tried that.. and the first floppy worked but the second one didnt work...and i treid other floppys and it said this isnt a bootable floppy
[09:42] <Pegasos989> Shit. forgot to ask in englishj
[09:42] <Pegasos989> sry
[09:42] <f_newton> yhager, networkmanager is a gui app for managing you network connections
[09:42] <f_newton> resolv.conf is  cli
[09:42] <Razor-X> balistic2: you can use 52 floppied (like I did with my first Debian install ages ago)
[09:42] <MagiPink> Okay... flushing iptables doesn't seem to have done anything. :3
[09:42] <Pegasos989> Anyways... This command ( killall gnome-panel ) is in ubuntuguide, but it sounds so scary that I just want to check that it doesn't do anything bad, does it?
[09:42] <Razor-X> but, I suggest using a netinstall
[09:43] <Razor-X> if you have a nice, fast net connection, all will be well
[09:43] <yhager> f_newton, yeah, but does it work correctly when resolvconf is installed? I have found a patch for this, wanted to hear if you have good/bad experience with it..
[09:43] <Razor-X> your mom let you install Windows? wow
[09:43] <KamiVIP> anybody have link to winex .deb package?
[09:43] <Razor-X> if I ever have kids, I'm going to teach them Linux as their primary OS
[09:43] <MagiPink> Damn internet.
[09:43] <neiras> KamiVP - you're looking for 'cedega'
[09:43] <KamiVIP> i cant mannage to install it from source
[09:43] <f_newton> ok I dont know about that... I use network manager to maintain my connections
[09:43] <Razor-X> KamiVIP: WineX has been renamed to Cedega
[09:43] <reisio> dishfish: guess we'll just have to wait a while for the debconf ppl to speak up
[09:43] <f_newton> I know how it works and how to set up connections
[09:43] <balistic2> Razor-x, actually i was hesitant about linux, but i tried it out for a good 3 months... but now i have this new lap top...but anyways how do i do a net install
[09:43] <reisio> Razor-X: hopefully we'll have something better than Linux by then
[09:44] <KamiVIP> yep i meant cedega i tried installing it from sources but didnt worked wll
[09:44] <Razor-X> reisio: possibly
[09:44] <KamiVIP> well*
[09:44] <f_newton> MagiPink, are you using gnome?
[09:44] <Razor-X> I'm going to teach my sister emacs from 6 ;)
[09:44] <selinium_> How do you rename the pc? ie selinium@<computer name>:
[09:44] <KamiVIP> so i thought it migh work with .deb pachage
[09:44] <MagiPink> f_newton: I am indeed.
[09:44] <f_newton> onur, here is a piece of advice... get a good linux or debian in depth book and rtfm
[09:44] <onur> f_newton, suppose that i  want to install eclipse and i want it to be accessible system wide, what should i do ?
[09:45] <reisio> book?
[09:45] <office> Can anyone assist with how to make my laptop hibernate when i close my lid?
[09:45] <f_newton> just install it and if needed change the permissions
[09:45] <reisio> get a book on free software?
[09:45] <aias_> selinium, hostname <name> , and edit /etc/hostname for the next boot, iirc
[09:45] <f_newton> but it should work sys wide
[09:45] <reisio> what a waste of cash
[09:45] <office> System --> Logout --> Hibernate works as a clicking option
[09:45] <onur> f_newton, to my home directory ?
[09:45] <balistic2> Razor-x, how do i do a net install
[09:45] <onur> f_newton, to where ?
[09:45] <boazg> i have the oddest problem i've seen in a while....
[09:45] <aias_> selinium, eh, ignore me, I answered a different question
[09:45] <Razor-X> office: that depends if the laptop close registers as a keysym
[09:45] <f_newton> magipink go to system tools and choose networktools
[09:46] <Razor-X> balistic2: lemme pull you a link
[09:46] <selinium_> aias: cheers!
[09:46] <balistic2> thanks razor-x
[09:46] <f_newton> this isnt a dial up is it MagiPink ?
[09:46] <MagiPink> f_newton: No, DSL
[09:46] <boazg> no user on my computer has permissions for anything, except root. this is true only my root filesystem.
[09:46] <yhager> f_newton, trying to compile it now.. I'll let you know how it works..
[09:46] <f_newton> onur to where ever but whereever you put it remember
[09:47] <CurtinDaVern> hi there just wondering if someone could tell me the name of the modprobe utility that comes with Ubuntu?
[09:47] <f_newton> k
[09:47] <onur> f_newton, thank you for your patience
[09:47] <f_newton> MagiPink, Is it ppoe?
[09:47] <Razor-X> balistic2: here's a piece of advice
[09:47] <balistic2> ok
[09:47] <Razor-X> get a CD drive
[09:47] <balistic2> ughh..
[09:47] <Razor-X> it's relatively inexpensive
[09:47] <balistic2> lol
[09:47] <f_newton> no sweat onur I am trying to help but ive only been using ubuntu for two days
[09:47] <Razor-X> do it, even netinstalls need CDs (it sees)
[09:47] <MagiPink> f_newton: Yes, I believe so.
[09:47] <boazg> CurtinDaVern: modprobe?
[09:47] <Razor-X> s/sees/seems/
[09:47] <Razor-X> i'm guessing that your best bet is the Ubuntu netbot intall
[09:47] <Razor-X> s/intall/install/
[09:48] <boazg> CurtinDaVern: try 'modprobe'
[09:48] <f_newton> ok have you opened up network tools yet MagiPink ?
[09:48] <Razor-X> or Debian 52 floppies ;)
[09:48] <aias_> selinium, you can edit /etc/hosts; you should see your hostname at the end of the first line: after that, put yourhost.domain
[09:48] <balistic2> razor-x but my other computers have cd rom drives
[09:48] <Razor-X> balistic2: so?
[09:48] <CurtinDaVern> boazg:  well when I try and modprobe the drivers I want to try with my wifi card they say they can't be found
[09:48] <CurtinDaVern> even though I see them listed
[09:48] <f_newton> MagiPink, also are u using ethernet or wifi?
[09:48] <CurtinDaVern> some1 told me their is a util to make it easier
[09:48] <Razor-X> balistic2: by the way, does your IRC client have tab complete? it's useful, and makes your typin appear neater ;)
[09:49] <spanglesontoast> erm
[09:49] <MagiPink> f_newton: Ethernet, and I haven't opened up network tools 'cause I'm still on my windows partition. Heh.
[09:49] <spanglesontoast> can anyone help me disable a sound card?
[09:49] <Razor-X> s/typin/typing/
[09:49] <boazg> CurtinDaVern: so you dont have the drivers. apt-get install them
[09:49] <balistic2> razor-x i dont think so
[09:49] <f_newton> ah you need two machines!
[09:49] <f_newton> lol
[09:49] <Razor-X> balistic2: no tab complete?!
[09:49] <f_newton> then MagiPink let me run thru it ok?
[09:49] <Razor-X> balistic2: start typing my name, then hit <Tab>
[09:49] <Razor-X> and see what happens
[09:49] <MagiPink> Okay. :)
[09:49] <balistic2> Razor-X
[09:49] <Razor-X> there you are ;)
[09:49] <balistic2> Whoa cool
[09:49] <CurtinDaVern> boazg:  there are drivers and that's why I want to use that util and I can't d/l drivers b/c my connection is wireless not wired
[09:49] <spanglesontoast> Can anyone help me disable a sound module from running at bootup?
[09:49] <Razor-X> see how much neater that came out ;)
[09:49] <balistic2> yes very neat
[09:50] <Razor-X> none of us actually type in the names, we all use Tab Complete XD
[09:50] <CurtinDaVern> Razor-X:  nice way of teaching :D
[09:50] <balistic2> LOL
[09:50] <balistic2> oh ok
[09:50] <balistic2> Razor-X, awesome
[09:50] <CurtinDaVern> balistic2:  way to go you got it
[09:50] <balistic2> loll haha
[09:50] <balistic2> yup
[09:50] <aias_> spanglesontoast, add the module to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[09:50] <boazg> CurtinDaVern: ok... what wifi card?
[09:50] <Razor-X> believe me, it becomes reflex after a while
[09:50] <Razor-X> so reflexive that you do it in IMs ;)
[09:50] <yhager> f_newton, did you install NetworkManager from a respository (can't find any), or compiled it?
[09:50] <f_newton> after you open up nettools click on the network device tab and choose the device you have click on netstat and see if you get any data
[09:50] <spanglesontoast> how do I find out which sound module it is?
[09:50] <f_newton> it comes with it
[09:50] <balistic2> Razor-X i had another idea
[09:50] <Razor-X> anyways...., try the netinstall of Ubuntu, balistic2
[09:50] <Razor-X> balistic2: hmmm?
[09:51] <CurtinDaVern> boazg:  network everywhere nwu11b
[09:51] <MagiPink> Okay
[09:51] <balistic2> Razor-X, i figured maybe using a usbstick
[09:51] <Razor-X> balistic2: it has USB?
[09:51] <KamiVIP> !wine
[09:51] <Razor-X> you know, a USB external CDrom drive is cheaper than a USB stick ;)
[09:51] <balistic2> Razor-X, yeah
[09:51] <boazg> CurtinDaVern: and the driver for thet is?
[09:51] <Razor-X> but yeah, that's definitely possible
[09:51] <balistic2> Razor-X i have an mp3 player tha tworks as a usb stick
[09:51] <Razor-X> distros like Flonix allow that
[09:51] <spanglesontoast> how do I find out which sound modules are loaded
[09:51] <linlin> Razor-X where...
[09:52] <CurtinDaVern> boazg:  well I saw some amtel.ko amtel_cs.ko hoping they would work as that is the chipset
[09:52] <barkley> is ndiswrapper in recent breezy badger isos?
[09:52] <MagiPink> I guess I'll go do that then.
[09:52] <caturOK> helooo
[09:52] <boazg> CurtinDaVern: and do they?
[09:52] <caturOK> help me pls
[09:52] <Razor-X> linlin: hmmmm?
[09:52] <f_newton> yhager, do you have the network icon in the upper task bar?
[09:52] <aias_> spanglesontoast, I assume the module that you don't want is loading?
[09:52] <spanglesontoast> yep
[09:52] <linlin> nevermind
[09:52] <f_newton> spanglesontoast, welcome
[09:52] <caturOK> why my scanner couldnot detect
[09:52] <balistic2> razor-x, so if i pout the whole ubuntu cd on a usbstick... could i install like that
[09:53] <spanglesontoast> yes newton
[09:53] <yhager> f_newton, no, I haven't installed it yet..
[09:53] <caturOK> why my umax 2500 couldnot detect
[09:53] <CurtinDaVern> boazg:  like I mentioned I get a module not found when using modprobe
[09:53] <Razor-X> see, the reason I logged off, is because I had to type your name (balistic2) without tab complete XD
[09:53] <boazg> CurtinDaVern: i mean, what does 'modprobe amtel' do?
[09:53] <Razor-X> balistic2: ahhh, it's possible, but difficult
[09:53] <CurtinDaVern> boazg:  module not found
[09:53] <aias_> spanglesontoast, then lsmod | grep snd will get you a few modules; the first one is probably the one you want to blacklist
[09:53] <spanglesontoast> ty
[09:53] <balistic2> Razor-X ill change my nick
[09:53] <Razor-X> what size USB stick do you have, balistic2 ?
[09:53] <codius> uhm.. is it possible to view and use files from windows in ubuntu (mp3/avi), if so, how to find them?
[09:53] <boazg> CurtinDaVern: but they are there?
[09:53] <Razor-X> B22: no no, it's fine ;)
[09:53] <B22> Razor-X, 1gb
[09:53] <f_newton>  yhager i am at a loss... it should be there by default
[09:53] <caturOK> :(
[09:53] <Razor-X> B22: awesome
[09:53] <caturOK> help me plzzzz
[09:53] <B22> so is that ok
[09:54] <caturOK> why my umax 2500 couldnot detect
[09:54] <CurtinDaVern> boazg:  http://linux_wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Network+Everywhere&zoek=SHOW shows that it works under linux
[09:54] <B22> Razor-X, would an ipod do the trick as well
[09:54] <CurtinDaVern> boazg:  yes I can see the files under file explorer
[09:54] <Razor-X> B22: I think we can get this working (with a little research), and I think i'll write a wiki guide on it
[09:54] <f_newton> I think its called network settings in ubuntu
[09:54] <Razor-X> B22: as long as it can store files, yeah
[09:54] <CurtinDaVern> boazg:  even when i cd over to the directory
[09:54] <CurtinDaVern> boazg:  and dir they are shown
[09:54] <Razor-X> iPods can run Linux, ya know?
[09:54] <B22> Razor-X yes i know
[09:54] <My_Umax_Problem> help me plzzzz
[09:54] <pax> http://www.ninux.net/files/foo.png <- this is how your ubuntu should look like :D
[09:54] <boazg> CurtinDaVern: try insmod
[09:55] <CurtinDaVern> boazg:  what is that?
[09:55] <B22> My_Umax_Problem look at the topoc =)
[09:55] <My_Umax_Problem> hm
[09:55] <B22> *topic
[09:55] <boazg> CurtinDaVern: like modprobe but take a full path
[09:55] <CurtinDaVern> k brb
[09:55] <yhager> f_newton, ok. I'll take a step back and check this out..
[09:55] <My_Umax_Problem> what the
[09:55] <B22> Razor-X do you have aim
[09:55] <My_Umax_Problem> but i'm know so confused
[09:55] <difeta> where can i  find packages for network-manager?
[09:56] <yhager> f_newton, you mean 'Network Monitor' ?
[09:56] <magdeburger> cute icons @ pax oO
[09:56] <f_newton> yeah... same thing
[09:56] <sexcopter8000m> hmmm, how can i restart alsa? do i need to reboot?
[09:56] <KamiVIP> hum
[09:56] <KamiVIP> any ideas why i get 'Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server' when i try to run synatic, firefox or wish?
[09:56] <f_newton> if its the configuration tool yhager
[09:56] <CurtinDaVern> boazg:  invalid symbol in module
[09:56] <CurtinDaVern> boazg:  are you ok if I PM you?
[09:57] <aias_> KamiVIP, are you trying to run them from a root terminal?
[09:57] <f_newton> I am still feeling my way around ubuntu yhager `
[09:57] <Razor-X> B22: i'm actually going through some docs now
[09:57] <boazg> CurtinDaVern: ok
[09:57] <B22> Razor-X ok
[09:57] <pax> thankies _mage_afk :-)
[09:57] <KamiVIP> aias_, as user
[09:57] <Razor-X> B22: can your laptop boot from the USB stick?
[09:57] <linlin> how do i add a launcher to my gnome menu?
[09:57] <KamiVIP> aias_,  but it's same if i run it with sudo
[09:58] <f_newton> to the menu or the desktop?
[09:58] <yhager> f_newton, Thanks.. I'll look around.
[09:58] <B22> Razor-X, i have no idea...
[09:58] <f_newton> yeah well i know im not much help yhager
[09:58] <anacron> any ideas how to run vice?
[09:58] <aias_> KamiVIP, then, there's something wrong with ~/.Xauthority, if you are actually in a normal terminal. I'm no authority on that, tho
[09:58] <B22> Razor-X, i just know the damn thing has a usb slot
[09:58] <Razor-X> B22: arrghhh, I have to go
[09:58] <Razor-X> I can't help for a while
[09:59] <KamiVIP> alias_ thanks
[09:59] <Razor-X> try this http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s05.html.en
[09:59] <barkley> is ndiswrapper in recent breezy badger isos?
[09:59] <B22> bah..
[09:59] <B22> ok
[09:59] <Fanskapet> barkley why do you wonder that?
[09:59] <aias_> barkley, yes
[09:59] <Fanskapet> just download and compile
[10:00] <aias_> at least colony 2
[10:00] <barkley> Fanskapet: because i need it
[10:00] <barkley> aias_: thanks
[10:01] <Fanskapet> barkley well as i said just download and compile it
[10:01] <Fanskapet> works just great
[10:01] <aias_> barkley, according to my cache, it's 1.1
[10:01] <Fanskapet> im using it here right now playing mp3 over samba
[10:01] <izmaelis> how should i convert from ntfs to fat32 without data loss?
[10:02] <dvsoftware> is there a way to make scroll on touchpad work?
[10:02] <windex> izmaelis, to my knowledge there is no microsoft-provided utility for doing what you just said. you may be able to back up the filesystem entirely and use the windows recovery console on it after it's restored, but it's a long shot.
[10:02] <spanglesontoast> why does it say I need something called e2fsck?
[10:02] <izmaelis> so i must use something like Partition Magic (-
[10:02] <alnr> just tried installing gmailfs and hit the apparently well-known error fusermount:old style mounting not supported, is there a remedy for this?
[10:03] <f_newton> izmaelis, there is a fat to ntfs but NOT the other way around
[10:03] <boazg> is anyone apt enough to assist me...
[10:03] <f_newton> ntfs is a superior fs to fat and fat32
[10:03] <windex> spanglesontoast, that's a disk checking program. it finds filesystem errors. if your machine is booting up and says it needs to run e2fsck, that's because the system has determined there may be errors.
[10:03] <f_newton> apt... lol
[10:03] <dvsoftware> izmaelis, if you need ntfs write support, i used captive-ntfs long time ago, which did the job
[10:03] <boazg> note the pun...
[10:03] <f_newton> yeah I did
[10:03] <spanglesontoast> well it's just I left the data from fedora in my home partition
[10:03] <Seveas> dvsoftware, did you get it to work on Ubuntu..?
[10:04] <spanglesontoast> I mean
[10:04] <f_newton> whats the problem boazg ?
[10:04] <spanglesontoast> I had my users files as a home partition
[10:04] <spanglesontoast> etc
[10:04] <spanglesontoast> how do I fix it?
[10:04] <windex> izmaelis, if partition magic will do it, more power to id.
[10:04] <boazg> no user on my computer has permissions for anything, except root. this is true only my root filesystem.
[10:04] <windex> izmaelis, , er, it.
[10:04] <f_newton> spanglesontoast, if you are using the same fs it should read them fine
[10:04] <izmaelis> i'm thinking about switching from win os to linux, so I will need to convert all my data
[10:04] <spanglesontoast> I'm using ext3
[10:04] <dvsoftware> Seveas, that was on mandrake errm... two years ago
[10:04] <f_newton> data NOT apps
[10:04] <Seveas> :)
[10:05] <spanglesontoast> yea just data like pics
[10:05] <windex> izmaelis, if you have partition magic, you can just shrink the NTFS partition down to a size that will allow you to share disk space with ubuntu.
[10:05] <spanglesontoast> and songs
[10:05] <asfra> I want to try to install ubuntu on an old computer that doesn't boot automatically from cd, can I then work magic with a floppy and start the cd
[10:05] <f_newton> spanglesontoast, thats the fedora default and the ubuntu default
[10:05] <spanglesontoast> I thought it would just be fine
[10:05] <spanglesontoast> although I do have some zipped old programs
[10:05] <f_newton> and you do have a seperate partition for your /home right?
[10:06] <bretzel> Hello -:) Can someone tell how the sensors in gdesklets poll the data ( lmsensors/sensors ? ) ?
[10:06] <f_newton> so you could manually partition and keep the home dir
[10:06] <windex> izmaelis, NTFS is better than fat32 under windows, it's just that linux support for ntfs is best used read-only, since the filesystem isin't very predictable.
[10:06] <dvsoftware> nobody knows how to fix scroll on touchpad?
[10:06] <DRPAS> does anybody can help me configuring a VIA/S3G UniChrome Graphics card for X
[10:06] <linlin> dvsoftware, thats kind of proprietary, i dont think you'll have much luck with that
[10:06] <dvsoftware> windex, i thought that write support is quite safe now
[10:06] <spanglesontoast> erm
[10:06] <spanglesontoast> yea newton
[10:06] <spanglesontoast> it's already on a partition
[10:06] <spanglesontoast> called /home
[10:06] <f_newton> boazg, do what now?
[10:06] <f_newton> is this ubuntu/
[10:06] <spanglesontoast> just I got rid of fedora
[10:06] <f_newton> ?
[10:07] <boazg> i give up
[10:07] <spanglesontoast> and left the data preserved
[10:07] <f_newton> have you been messing with the root acct?
[10:07] <DRPAS> does anybody can help me configuring a VIA/S3G UniChrome Graphics card for X
[10:07] <windex> dvsoftware, it is, but it only supports modifying existing files, and those files can not grow larger than their original size.
[10:07] <linlin> dvsoftware, do you have a synaptics touch pad?
[10:07] <DRPAS> does anyone knows the server for this card  VIA/S3G UniChrome Graphics for xfree86?
[10:07] <f_newton> I do and it sux with linux]
[10:07] <aias_> boazg, do you mean, you want to edit something outside of /home/boazg, and can't?
[10:07] <windex> dvsoftware, if you want to call that an improvement over 'read only', anyway. :)
[10:07] <linlin> dvsoftware, maybe try this http://freshmeat.net/projects/synaptics/
[10:08] <radiodog> hey, do i have to download codecs for Totem to play divx...or even mp3?
[10:08] <raDeon> yes radiodog
[10:08] <linlin> radiodog, use mplayer
[10:08] <nJess> DRPAS, use vesa
[10:08] <raDeon> radiodog, www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:08] <|rockinnerd|> wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:09] <mwerner> dvsoftware, I have a Synaptics. What do you mean with "scroll"? The scroll buttons?
[10:09] <f_newton> oh wait I have an alps duh..
[10:10] <deprave_> i've noticed when i copy files from cdrom to a directory, if a file already exists ubuntu still copies the file and it is basicly duplicated, is there a flag for cp that won't copy the same file over?
[10:10] <DRPAS> how do i configure X in my warty ubuntu please?
[10:11] <izmaelis> ot: after spending lots of time with linux i noticed that hardware that works with linux is better than hardware that works only with win
[10:11] <spanglesontoast> erm
[10:11] <izmaelis> sound cards, video cards etc.
[10:11] <spanglesontoast> how can I fix
[10:11] <spanglesontoast> stuff
[10:11] <deprave_> haha
[10:11] <deprave_> spanglesontoast: kick the stuff
[10:11] <bretzel> Can someone tell how the sensors in gdesklets poll the data ( lmsensors/sensors ? ) ?
[10:12] <DRPAS> how do i configure X in my warty ubuntu please?
[10:12] <f_newton>  whats the matter MagiPink ?
[10:12] <Razor-X> B22: you there?
[10:12] <f_newton> still no connect?
[10:12] <|rockinnerd|> Danger Will Robinson!
[10:12] <MagiPink> Nope. :3
[10:12] <spanglesontoast> how do I reset permissions for my user so they can have control of everything in the home dir
[10:12] <spanglesontoast> they have been set
[10:12] <deprave_> MagiPink : why so blue?
[10:12] <deprave_> hehehe
[10:12] <izmaelis> DRPAS, isn't it configured during install?
[10:13] <MagiPink> My Ubuntu won't connect to the internet anymore, deprave_~
[10:13] <aias_> spanglesontoast, log out of gnome, switch to a tty (ctl-alt-f1), drop to single user mode (telinit 1), umount the /home partition, then e2fsck /dev/<home>
[10:13] <chad> "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in shell?
[10:13] <spanglesontoast> ah
[10:13] <aias_> spanglesontoast, then when done, telinit 2 to get back to normal
[10:13] <icewt> chad, maybe it's easier to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:13] <spanglesontoast> erm
[10:13] <f_newton> lol
[10:13] <chad> ok
[10:13] <spanglesontoast> let me just write that down
[10:13] <spanglesontoast> so dev is the hard drive the home partition is on?
[10:14] <icewt> chad, find Section "Sceen" there
[10:14] <kemik> MagiPink:  what does ifconfig say?
[10:14] <f_newton> me I just open up the directory right click on the folder choose properties and then permissions and I change them there
[10:14] <kemik> MagiPink:  do you have dhcp-assignemnt of ip-addy?
[10:14] <icewt> chad, i mean, "Screen"
[10:14] <aias_> spanglesontoast, yes, /dev/whatever your home partition is
[10:14] <anacron> does anyone have a clue why gaim is transfering files so slow?
[10:14] <MagiPink> kemik: I can go check to see what it says... and no, I don't believe I do.
[10:14] <f_newton> dev is the device
[10:14] <kemik> MagiPink:  so you've got static ip?
[10:14] <spanglesontoast> what about the weird permissions
[10:15] <f_newton> /dev/hda/home/whatever
[10:15] <chad> how do i start from console? gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[10:15] <icewt> sudo gedit ...
[10:15] <f_newton> wow thats pretty nice to have a static ip
[10:15] <kemik> chad:  dont forget "sudo"
[10:15] <MagiPink> kemik: Uh... I... don't know. :3
[10:15] <f_newton> assume its dhcp MagiPink
[10:15] <kemik> MagiPink:  you really should know, but i guess its DHCP if you have no idea ;)
[10:15] <DRPAS> need help about VIA/S3G UniChrome Graphics and X
[10:15] <DRPAS> please!
[10:15] <kemik> MagiPink:  do "ifconfig -a"
[10:15] <aias_> spanglesontoast, a different issue, that's because ext3 saves user and group identification as numbers; the numbers are not mapped correctly for your ubuntu users
[10:16] <MagiPink> I'll do that the next time I work up the energy to change over to the other partition. :3
[10:16] <Spudchat> i saw in knoppix where you can import ntfs drivers from a windows partition so you can read and write realiably to ntfs filesystems
[10:16] <Spudchat> can you do that in ubuntu
[10:16] <sky__> how come i can't install gnomp3?
[10:16] <spanglesontoast> ok
[10:16] <spanglesontoast> I go do that thing
[10:16] <spanglesontoast> be back soon
[10:17] <codius> does ubuntu support ntfs?
[10:17] <kemik> Spudchat:  sure its "reliable" ?
[10:17] <kemik> codius:  reading; yes, writing; not recommended
[10:17] <izmaelis> codius, look for captive
[10:17] <f_newton> lol ms hardly supports ntfs
[10:17] <Spudchat> well thats what knoppix says so i dunno
[10:17] <izmaelis> f_newton, what do you mean?
[10:17] <Spudchat> well just so i dont have to format and lose everything
[10:17] <kemik> MagiPink:  gives up what? you've not even tried
[10:17] <f_newton> humor izmaelis
[10:17] <sky__> somehow ubuntu cant finde the package "gnomp3"..
[10:18] <Spudchat> no possibility to move the data as my laptop has only one hdd
[10:18] <chad> i see only 3 diffrent resolutions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:18] <kemik> Spudchat:  im not sure, but cant you convert ntfs to fat32 in partition magic ?
[10:18] <f_newton> kemik he is having to go back n forth between his windows partition to connect and his ubuntu to make changes
[10:18] <MagiPink> I'm just lazy right now and tired of switching back and forth so many times. xD I'll try again later.
[10:18] <Spudchat> interesting....ill have to look into that
[10:19] <aias_> sky__, it's in the universe section, maybe you need to fix your sources.list
[10:19] <f_newton> it is getting frustrating Im sure
[10:19] <icewt> chad, add a new one there
[10:19] <chad> k
[10:19] <codius> kemik, When I'm mounting my ntfs hdd it seems like it works, but the content is "unreadable"
[10:19] <MagiPink> I think I screwed it up with guarddog. :3
[10:19] <f_newton> kemik wow partition magic must have come a long way
[10:20] <metalhedd> I've got my NAT/Router working, running gentoo, however the only problem I have is that when a machine gets an IP using DHCP the resolv.conf file of that machine is replaced with references to the router as a nameserver, if I copy the resolv.conf from the router and place it on the machine in question, it works fine. How can I make the dhcp server give the correct DNS Information to the machines on the lan? I kn
[10:20] <kemik> codius:  its mounted as "Read Only" and most likely as "root" too
[10:20] <kemik> codius:  try mount your ntfs partition and in a terminal do "sudo nautilus" then go browse the mounted folder
[10:21] <kemik> codius:  if you can read it, then it's just a matter of mounting it as a certain user or group
[10:21] <kemik> f_newton:  it has
[10:21] <chad> Modes		 "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" hope this is right
[10:21] <LasseL> is it me or does the fonts look slightly different after last system update?
[10:21] <codius> how can I access it then? (used: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5/ /mnt/)
[10:21] <kemik> f_newton:  and i googled it, PM can convert NTFS->FAT32
[10:21] <aias_> chad, that's a usable modes line
[10:21] <f_newton> that is a big leap forward kemik
[10:21] <spanglesontoast> ok
[10:21] <kemik> codius:  "sudo nautilus" and go browse /mnt
[10:22] <spanglesontoast> it fold me to get a newer version of e2fsck
[10:22] <icewt> chad, and you added it to all the subsections?
[10:22] <spanglesontoast> *told
[10:22] <chad> ill do that
[10:22] <f_newton> ah...
[10:22] <kemik> f_newton:  PM is quite cool.. even tho im a bit superstitous about resizing and converting partitions ;)
[10:22] <aias_> spanglesontoast, eh
[10:22] <f_newton> I dont
[10:22] <f_newton> I use nothing but linux partitions
[10:22] <spanglesontoast> that's what it said
[10:22] <f_newton> on linux machines
[10:23] <kemik> f_newton:  unfortunately im stuck with a ntfs partition, dualbooting.. even tho i spend 95% of my time in linux
[10:23] <aias_> spanglesontoast, I've never run fedora, so I have no Idea why it would say that
[10:23] <f_newton> I used to have to until I got cxoffice
[10:23] <spanglesontoast> hmm
[10:23] <Spudchat> you think i can use wine to run partition magic?
[10:23] <spanglesontoast> I could install k3b
[10:23] <spanglesontoast> burn what I need
[10:23] <f_newton> now the only winapp I have to use is in there
[10:23] <kemik> f_newton:  there just isnt a GOOD ftp program for linux... i've been messing with GTK now to write my own, but Glade isnt playing along with me
[10:23] <f_newton> filezilla?
[10:23] <f_newton> whats wrong with that?
[10:24] <f_newton> or just type ftp in console
[10:24] <MagiPink> So... I should go... ifconfig -a or someething~ :3
[10:24] <kemik> filezilla supports Fxp and sll ?
[10:24] <chad> now "1280x1024" is on all sub sec..save and try change res..or is it more to this?
[10:24] <kemik> f_newton:  preferably a gui-based ssl & fxp client, not "ftp" :P
[10:24] <aias_> spanglesontoast, or, if you have enough space on another partition, just move the data there temporarily
[10:24] <f_newton> ssh?
[10:24] <icewt> chad, i think you must restart x or something
[10:24] <MagiPink> BRB
[10:24] <aias_> although, "back up early, back up often" ;)
[10:24] <kemik> MagiPink:  yea to see if you got a ip-adress at all, if you dont, you can try "dhcp -i eth0" (if your networkcard is eth0)
[10:25] <levander> I'm getting errors from graveman and one of the things I've noticed is that it still thinks I have my old CD burner on my machine even though I tool it off and replaced it with a new DVD burner.  Anybody know how to change this?
[10:25] <chad> killall/kill nautilus?
[10:25] <f_newton> I just stop when some one says no good linux app for a win alternative
[10:25] <kemik> codius:  able to browse your foldeR?
[10:25] <chad> <N00B :)
[10:26] <kemik> f_newton:  you cant SSh into a ftp and find that convenient
[10:26] <icewt> chad, log out and press ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:26] <chad> aright
[10:26] <aias_> chad, ctl-alt-backspace kills X; it's best to see icewt
[10:26] <sun_> hi anyone know a commandline program that can convert gif->ps?
[10:26] <kemik> f_newton:  what i want essentially for linux is sort of like "flashfxp" :)
[10:26] <CurtinDaVern> Razor-X:  you around?
[10:26] <kemik> f_newton:  there's pftp by hoe, but it doesnt support recursive get
[10:26] <sun_> hi anyone know a commandline program that can convert gif->ps?
[10:27] <kemik> sun_:  try google, it may know ;)
[10:27] <f_newton> I guess my needs are simple
[10:27] <f_newton> I use ftp rarely
[10:27] <mrknisely> Anyone seen how google can do math for you?
[10:27] <f_newton> but filezilla works for me
[10:27] <kemik> sun_:  http://hepunx.rl.ac.uk/~adye/gifconv.html <-- first hit on google
[10:28] <CurtinDaVern> I am hoping someone can help me get my wireless network card working as I have only a wireless connection on my Ubuntu computer and have to keep on running back and forth between rooms here
[10:28] <sky__> thx aias_
[10:28] <holycow> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26567.html  <-- pretty good tutorial for anyone fighting with sound issues
[10:28] <kemik> f_newton:  if filezilla supports SSL i'm happy for now =)
[10:28] <kemik> holycow:  i'm hoping breezy will solve all those soundissues
[10:28] <f_newton> check it out n see kemik the web site should tell you
[10:29] <kemik> f_newton:  already there ;)
[10:29] <f_newton> I use simple ftp for my sites
[10:29] <aias_> sky__, np
[10:29] <kemik> the sites im on are ssl-enforced... cant get in withoutit ;)
[10:29] <f_newton> passive?
[10:29] <aias_> rofl, sound issues fixed
[10:29] <kemik> f_newton:  ssl = secure socket layer, not the same thing as being behind a firewall ;)
[10:30] <Gourami> hi all, has anyone heard of a mud client called tintin ?
[10:30] <CurtinDaVern> kemik:  how long have you been using Ubuntu?
[10:30] <kemik> CurtinDaVern:  since uhm, mars ?
[10:30] <cohonen> where can i get a mplayer package for ubuntu ???
[10:30] <f_newton> ive been using it for two days CurtinDaVern does that count?
[10:30] <kemik> CurtinDaVern:  im not using a wireless lan card, but you want ndiswrapper im sure
[10:30] <CurtinDaVern> kemik:  would you be interested in helping me get my wireless NIC setup as I'm a one day old user
[10:30] <kemik> !ndiswrapper
[10:30] <ubotu> methinks ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[10:30] <CurtinDaVern> kemik:  nope didn't work
[10:30] <achilles__> I have scsi problems. The scsi card is recognized, the scsi zip dirve works. BUT my two scannes are not available. They do not appear under /dev.  Whee is the problem?
[10:31] <holycow> kemik, yeah but ubuntu cannot do anything about each app wanting to use a different sound system, or sound co's not opening up their drivers
[10:31] <f_newton> what is the wifi card CurtinDaVern ?
[10:31] <holycow> :/
[10:31] <kemik> CurtinDaVern:  then you're out of luck with me
[10:31] <crashd> heh
[10:31] <crashd> im having wifi problems too :\
[10:31] <levander> I'm getting image to big errors from gnomebaker.  There's any way to tell it I want to burn to a DVD and not a CD?
[10:31] <CurtinDaVern> f_newton:  network everywhere nwu11b
[10:31] <Gourami> no one heard of a mud client called tintin ?
[10:31] <kemik> cohonen:  in universe, or www.mplayerhq.com and compile from source
[10:31] <kemik> !tell cohonen about mplayer
[10:31] <knowledge> guys, I'm trying to access http://www.prohopper.com (after installing flash) and now it won't load...it hangs at 'transfering data from...'
[10:31] <f_newton> CurtinDaVern, do you know what chipset/driver it uses?
[10:31] <knowledge> can anything be done about this?
[10:32] <CurtinDaVern> f_newton:  can I pm ya?
[10:32] <f_newton> I guess
[10:32] <Heijmen> knowledge: site works for me (flash and all)
[10:32] <CurtinDaVern> f_newton:  just easier for me to keep up as I have a mental illness and I'd appreciate it
[10:32] <knowledge> Heijmen, damn...that sucks
[10:32] <CurtinDaVern> if it's ok?
[10:33] <hs> cohonen: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer
[10:33] <f_newton> ok fine
[10:33] <kemik> knowledge:  works here aswell
[10:33] <knowledge> so something definately wrong on my end
[10:33] <achilles__> Can anyone help me with my scsi problem?
[10:33] <knowledge> just when I need to place an order for my car....this blows
[10:33] <knowledge> anyone know what can be done?
[10:33] <kemik> knowledge:  try other flashsites, perhaps that site is just inaccessible to your ISP at the moment
[10:33] <catolh> Does anyone have any experience in getting Tv out to work properly with an ATI card? I've installed the latest fglrx drivers from ati.com. And i get a clone image on my Monitor and my TV. But my real problem is that i dont get any Video on the tv-screen with mplayer, I've also tried to set my "second monitor" to primary in the ATI control panel that was included in the fglrx package, but it reverts to default if i restart X (It tell's me to
[10:33] <catolh> restart X). Im pretty lost here right now, and i hope one of you guys could lead me in the right direction.
[10:34] <chadz> dint help..dont see any new resolutions
[10:34] <knowledge> aha
[10:34] <knowledge> kemik, would that cause firefox to stop responding?
[10:34] <spanglesontoast> is there a place where things get stored before they get deleted
[10:35] <spanglesontoast> or if you delete them with rm using root
[10:35] <spanglesontoast> are they gone forever?
[10:35] <aias_> spanglesontoast, no, they are history
[10:35] <icewt> chadz, hm.. the resolutions you added are still in the config file?
[10:35] <kemik> knowledge:  no ;) that seems to be something else... restarted firefox ?
[10:35] <spanglesontoast> *************!
[10:35] <knowledge> kemik, more than enough times
[10:35] <chadz> /etc/...? hehe
[10:35] <kemik> knowledge:  remove the flashplugin adn firefox and try again ?
[10:36] <icewt> chadz, etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:36] <chadz> ty
[10:37] <aias_> spanglesontoast, you can try unmounting that partition NOW; then reading about recover and e2undel
[10:38] <aias_> spanglesontoast, they didn't work for me, but maybe they will for you if you avoid any changes to that partition
[10:38] <cohonen> thx hs
[10:38] <wajokki> some one speak finnish?
[10:39] <levander> "On the fly burning" means that the application doesn't create an iso image on your hard disk before burning it to your cd?
[10:39] <chadz> Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" still there
[10:39] <icewt> wajokki, mene #ubuntu-fi
[10:39] <icewt> chadz, well then, you could always try to restart your whole computer. don't know whether it makes any difference.
[10:39] <chadz> restart comp?
[10:39] <chadz> heh
[10:39] <chadz> ok
[10:39] <icewt> :)
[10:40] <levander> Do I have to format a DVD-R before I write data to it?
[10:40] <spanglesontoast> nope
[10:40] <spanglesontoast> gonna start from a fresh
[10:41] <levander> spanglesontoast: you talking to me?
[10:42] <spanglesontoast> no
[10:42] <spanglesontoast> aias
[10:42] <knowledge> kem
[10:43] <f_newton> hit the wrong button
[10:43] <knowledge> kemik, I got the site working, but can you go to it and tell me if you see the text in the corner (bottom left) where it says "ride of the day"?
[10:43] <kemik> knowledge:  i didnt
[10:43] <knowledge> you didn't see the text?
[10:43] <f_newton> Razor-X is pretty sharp CurtinDaVern
[10:43] <CurtinDaVern> f_newton:  ty
[10:44] <f_newton> for a kde userw
[10:44] <levander> Anybody know a dvd burning application that burns "on the fly"?
[10:44] <f_newton> lol
[10:44] <CurtinDaVern> no pun intended ;)
[10:44] <Heijmen> levander: k3b?
[10:44] <kemik> knowledge:  Ride of the day i see, but no more in that bo
[10:44] <kemik> knowledge:  box
[10:44] <knowledge> kemik, cool...thanks...
[10:44] <levander> Heijmen: how about one I don't have to load all the kde libraries for?
[10:44] <chad> damn..didnt help
[10:44] <levander> Heijmen: on the fly burning means that it doesn't right an iso to your hard disk before burning it to the dvd?
[10:45] <gehel2> levander, right !
[10:45] <chad> hmm.. i havent downloaded any drivers from nvidia.com tho..
[10:45] <chad> do i have to?
[10:46] <levander> gehel2: know an application for ubuntu that does on the fly burning?  I'd really rather not use k3b so I don't have to load all the kde libraries.
[10:46] <Heijmen> levander: gnomebaker?
[10:46] <gehel2> levander, should I assume you want a graphical front end ?
[10:47] <levander> Heijmen: I'm getting errors from gnomebaker saying "files to big" when I select the files I want to burn.  I think it thinks I want to burn a CD and not a DVD.  It's restrict the size to DVD size limits.
[10:47] <gehel2> levander, there is xcdroast, but I think it does only audio cds
[10:47] <levander> gehel2: yeah, for what I'm doing now, definitely want a GUI
[10:47] <Heijmen> how big's the file?
[10:48] <levander> Heijmen: wanna burn 4.3 GB.  I've done it with nautilus, but waiting for it to make a temporary iso just takes so long.
[10:48] <gehel2> levander, there is something like gtoaster, or gnome toaster ... but I usually burn from command line ...
[10:49] <Heijmen> levander: i don't use gnomebaker myself so not sure why it doesn't accept it :(
[10:49] <gehel2> levander, if it's just burning one file, it's probably easier to do it from CL
[10:50] <levander> gehel2: I may just do that.  cdrecord though, from what I understand doesn't burn to dvds.  And there are a few different packages you can install to burn dvds.  You know which one is best?
[10:50] <levander> gehel2: not, it's 7 directories and 7 text files.  I gotta do this about 12 times.
[10:50] <kemik> f_newton:  filezilla is for windows only! using cxoffice to get it working ?
[10:50] <samu> can somebody recommend a nice editor for working with ruby?
[10:50] <MagiPink> Maybe it would love me again if I put out. xD
[10:50] <f_newton> egads!
[10:51] <levander> gehel2: dvd+rw-tools? dvdrtools?
[10:51] <f_newton> things have changed...
[10:51] <gehel2> levander, than go for CL ! you can even write a for loop to do it 12 times in a row ...
[10:51] <levander> samu: check if blueflish does that
[10:51] <gehel2> levander, I use dvd+rw-tools
[10:51] <levander> gehel2: yeah, i'll be able to figure out the command line if you know which dvd writing tool is the best
[10:51] <MagiPink> I don't know if thise will help... but when I did plog, it said it couldn't raise the MTU and MRU to 1500 a bunch of times or something... and that the PAP authentication failed. :3
[10:52] <gehel2> samu, emacs or vi !
[10:52] <MrMaDSeN> my audio wont work.... soundcard I mean   any suggestions
[10:52] <levander> gehel2: you read around and decided on dvd+rw-tools? or, just went ahead and tried it?
[10:52] <samu> gehel2, so which one is better? :)
[10:52] <barkley> samu: jedit has a pretty good ruby plugin
[10:53] <barkley> samu: it actually uses the jruby parser so it has some structure outlining and a little code completion
[10:53] <gehel2> levander, just lemme check, I might in fact use dvdrtools
[10:53] <levander> samu: that's a religious debate
[10:53] <levander> gehel2: something tells me you really don't care much which is better....
[10:53] <chad> does nvidia drivers install with ubuntu install or synaptic?
[10:53] <Raptoid> selamlar
[10:53] <icewt> chad, you could try http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[10:54] <gehel2> levander, your right, I just picked one and assumed they are mostly equivalents (which is probably right)
[10:54] <oni> hi
[10:54] <levander> samu: really though, vi and emacs are kind of advanced to program in.  I'd look and see if bluefish has ruby support.
[10:54] <oni> hey gotta question, where I can get Java JRE?
[10:54] <gehel2> levander, I think they are both a fork of cdrecord
[10:54] <kemik> !tell oni about java
[10:55] <levander> gehel2: yeah, some packages I download and start using have more bugs than others though.  And, then like trying to burn discs, finding out that some of these are making me wait real long with it writes a temporary iso to the hard disk.
[10:55] <Kyral> !java
[10:55] <ubotu> from memory, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[10:55] <kemik> levander: ViM / gvim has syntaxhighlightning
[10:55] <Kyral> Ahh! NCurses based installers
[10:55] <Kyral> Simple yet functional!
[10:56] <kemik> samu:  gvim !
[10:56] <kemik> Kyral:  indeed
[10:56] <levander> kemik: yeah, but I wouldn't have a newb program in vi.  It gets so tedious trying to figure out what all the commands are when you're trying to figure out a programming language at the same time.
[10:56] <MagiPink> Well, I don't know what to do now... Oh well. :3 Thanks all~
[10:56] <Kyral> though the last time I invoked the UT2k4 installer, it popped up this GUI one, but ths time the NCurses
[10:56] <f_newton> hang on a second kemik let me look for something... I thought it was filezilla Iused to use
[10:56] <Heijmen> samu: scite has ruby support
[10:57] <gehel2> levander, I actually use growisofs ... I think to remember it had easier syntax
[10:57] <Kyral> and HOLY COW! Slack is coming out with a new subversion?!
[10:57] <levander> gehel2: does growisofs do the same thing as mkisofs? or, does it do the same thing as cdrecord?
[10:57] <oni> thanks
[10:57] <gehel2> levander, both at the same time !
[10:58] <levander> Kyral: who is slack?
[10:58] <f_newton> kemik,  http://gftp.seul.org/
[10:58] <levander> gehel2: that is nice!
[10:58] <Kyral> levander, Slackware Linux
[10:58] <levander> gehel2: it burns to dvds?
[10:58] <kemik> f_newton:  aah, tried that one, no ssl-support :(
[10:58] <avadash> hey newly installed ubuntu has no sound....
[10:58] <avadash> :(
[10:58] <gehel2> levander, yes it does. I use it for automated backups
[10:58] <Kyral> !esd
[10:58] <ubotu> methinks esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[10:58] <MrMaDSeN> avadash: i got same problem
[10:58] <levander> gehel2: that's exactly what I've been looking for!!!!
[10:59] <LinuxJones> avadash, what kind of soundcard do you have ?
[10:59] <Kyral> ...someone make an entry in Ubotu that tells how to kill ESD
[10:59] <avadash> creative soundblaster 24bit live.
[10:59] <levander> gehel2: I come in here bitching about cdrecord every damn day, don't know why someone didn't recommend alternative
[10:59] <levander> gehel2: ticks me off nobody told me about that earlier.
[11:00] <gehel2> levander, I think ubuntu users are not the most CL efficient ... It's such a nice distro ;-)
[11:00] <f_newton> kemik, and here too...  http://linuxreviews.org/software/ftp-clients/
[11:00] <MagiPink> I guess I'll have to reinstall Ubuntu. o.O
[11:00] <gehel2> avadash, if you type "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" do you hear garbadge sound ?
[11:01] <oni> what do you recommend for PPC, IBM Java or Blackdown Java?
[11:01] <gehel2> oni, SUN JDK
[11:01] <gehel2> oni, if possible 1.5
[11:02] <oni> gehel2, but I have two options, IBM or Blackdown, is for PPC
[11:02] <samu> Heijmen, yeah, but can scite autoindent my code?
[11:02] <kemik> f_newton:  thx :)
[11:02] <avadash> it says access denied when i try to play it
[11:02] <gehel2> oni, sorry, I missed that one. Than go for blackdown, unless you are developping and want the supppper fast jikes compiler
[11:03] <oni> thanks
[11:03] <gehel2> avadash, than you should check the permissions on /dev/dsp
[11:03] <gregg_> is anyone working on speeding up the installation process of ubuntu?
[11:03] <avadash> ok...
[11:03] <oni> How do I install from a .bin file?
[11:03] <avadash> cant i just su?
[11:03] <avadash> but i type in password and it sayts denied
[11:04] <gehel2> avadash, the quick and dirty trick would be to run "chmod a+rw /dev/dsp" as root
[11:04] <blahblah> avadash: u have to give a root pw for su first
[11:04] <f_newton> kemik are you running gnome or kde?
[11:04] <avadash> what is default root pass?
[11:04] <LinuxJones> avadash, this might help >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307
[11:04] <blahblah> avadash: there is none, see LinuxJones
[11:04] <Heijmen> samu: not that i know of
[11:04] <LinuxJones> avadash, sorry I took so long to reply
[11:05] <avadash> its ok
[11:05] <blahblah> avadash: u can use
[11:05] <f_newton> well I have to go get some thing to eat. I am hungry
[11:05] <oni> avadash, you should be able to change de password of the root at anytime
[11:05] <blahblah> avadash: sudo -s
[11:05] <f_newton> I will probably be back later as I have nothing constructive to do
[11:05] <holycow> bah
[11:05] <holycow> my sound issue was that new bios now require onboard audio chipset to be enabled manually
[11:05] <holycow> weird
[11:05] <holycow> heh
[11:06] <avadash> yes!!!! thx blah blah it worked!
[11:06] <avadash> blahblah: it worked!
[11:07] <oni> how do I install from a bin file?
[11:07] <brokenbox> anyone have any tips on combining the upper and lower gnome bars into just 1?
[11:08] <oni> brokenbox: configure the panel direction
[11:08] <gehel2> oni, chmod a+x <file.bin> ; ./<file.bin>
[11:08] <oni> both up or down
[11:08] <levander> gehel2: the growisofs (which is a part of dvd+rw-tools) says that nautilus is actually using dvd+rw-tools on the backend.
[11:08] <levander> gehel2: Does growisofs do "on the fly" burning?
[11:08] <oni> gehel2 thanks
[11:09] <brokenbox> oni, will that let me combine them, and where is that accessed?
[11:09] <gehel2> levander, on the fly yes. didnt understand the first part ...
[11:09] <wdh> what would be a good program to burn a .cue/.bin image?
[11:09] <MartenH> lo all
[11:09] <oni> brokenbox: Right click on the panel - Properties
[11:10] <kemik> MartenH:  gftp seem to have ssl support if you compile it from source (not apt-get it)
[11:10] <brokenbox> i can put them both at the bottom, but that doesnt combine them into one :(
[11:10] <oni> wdh: k3b ?
[11:11] <levander> gehel2: the first part was just saying that nautilus uses dvd+rw-tools on the back-end to burn dvd's
[11:11] <TheSham>  I've been following this wiki on installing ndiswrapper, and all has went well until I got to this command: sed -e "s/misc/kernel\/drivers\/net\/ndiswrapper/g" debian/rules > debian/temp
[11:11] <gehel2> levander, OK, thx
[11:11] <MartenH> kemik, really? Interesting! I don't know if I dare get into combiling again, just went trhrough hell compiling a driver.. did manage to get it working in the end though =)
[11:11] <levander> gehel2: so, if growisofs does "on the fly" burning, and nautilus uses growisofs on the back end, should nautilus do on the fly burning?
[11:11] <TheSham> Does anyone know what that command SHOULD be? It's completely wrong.
[11:11] <pestilence> does anybody know of a good vncviewer that properly handles fullscreen in KDE and doesn't get confused when you accidently hit alt+tab?
[11:11] <oni> brokenbox: you could make the bottom panel larger and add the upper panel's applets down the others
[11:12] <kemik> MartenH:  compiling drivers is way different from just compiling a small app ;)
[11:12] <gehel2> levander, not necessarly
[11:12] <wdh> oni, i hoped for a program that wouldnt need 40 mb of kdelibs et al
[11:12] <brokenbox> oni, yeah i figured it out. thanks alot!
[11:12] <ubuntu_> does apt-get install -c <package> install from cache only?
[11:13] <ubuntu_> i remeber using that on other distros with apt
[11:13] <oni> wdh: I don't know how to make it in Gnome
[11:13] <ubuntu_> er -C
[11:13] <MartenH> kemik, have you tried it? (gftp with ssl i mean)
[11:13] <ubuntu_> cap
[11:13] <kemik> MartenH:  im going to now, either gftp or iglooftp
[11:13] <oni> wdh: I think there is some package called xnero in Universe
[11:13] <ubuntu_> does apt-get install -C <package> install from cache only?
[11:13] <ubuntu_> i remeber using that on other distros with apt
[11:14] <psi-> does anyone know any fix for XOrg/breezy AltGr breakage?
[11:15] <MartenH> kemik, ok, then I'll let you play guineepig and you can report back to me when you're done =)
[11:15] <nelsongs> anybody knows if intel 915GM works with ubuntu now?
[11:15] <nelsongs> i have an hp notebook dv4000
[11:15] <avadash> i download some thing called hoary that could fix my sound problem and all i get is a files called packages... no makefiles or anything
[11:15] <wdh> oni, not in hoary/universe
[11:16] <gehel2> kemik, just my own 2 cents, but I've had quite some troubles with igloo. Crashing all the time. gftp only crashed half of the time ...
[11:16] <oni> wdh: have you added the Universe repositories?
[11:16] <wdh> oni, yes
[11:16] <MartenH> gehel2, lol, positive think there eh? :)
[11:17] <oni> I've got no sound in VLC for GTK+ (ppc)
[11:17] <littleworm> i have the logitech media keyboard and there are some "special" buttons that doesn't work, how can i configure it?
[11:17] <oni> wdh: look for nero
[11:17] <gehel2> MartenH, well, I still have to find a good ftp GUI. But I use scp most of the time so ...
[11:17] <MartenH> littleworm, look into the hotkeys package
[11:17] <MartenH> gehel2, does that have ssl support?
[11:18] <wdh> oni, it is not in universe..
[11:18] <gehel2> MartenH, ???
[11:18] <ubuntu_> if i have somethng i cache how do i tell ubuntus apt to install from cache only and not download?
[11:18] <Goodspeed> why does gnome have explicit access to my soundcard
[11:18] <fng> set theme sux
[11:18] <Goodspeed> and it locks everything out?
[11:18] <littleworm> MartenH, thanks
[11:19] <Kyral> how do I find out whats in my Path?
[11:19] <LasseL> gehel2, I would think that nautilus can do both scp and ftp
[11:19] <wdh> ubuntu_, it installs everything thats in cache.. and downlaods the rest
[11:19] <MartenH> gehel2, ssl transfers, encrypted transfers...
[11:19] <LasseL> gehel2, i am sure it does sftp anyways
[11:19] <Goodspeed> umount: only root can unmount /dev/hda from /media/cdrom0
[11:19] <Goodspeed> eject: unmount of `/dev/hda' failed
[11:19] <Goodspeed> can someone help me with this?
[11:19] <wdh> ubuntu_, --no-download does exactly what you want
[11:19] <om_> Goodspeed: esd/oss by default can only play one sound at a time
[11:19] <gehel2> MartenH, scp is another protocol, related to ssh, so there is no SSL, but a pretty strong encryption
[11:19] <Goodspeed> im using alsa
[11:19] <Kyral> do a sudo in front of that
[11:19] <om_> if you play with alsa you may be able to get it to play multiple sounds at once
[11:19] <whitefang> is there an easy way to stop the printing service from running at startup?
[11:19] <pestilence> Goodspeed: sudo eject ?
[11:20] <Goodspeed> root@Godspeed:/media # sudo eject
[11:20] <Goodspeed> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[11:20] <Goodspeed> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[11:20] <Goodspeed> eject: unmount of `/dev/hda' failed
[11:20] <ptolo> Goodspeed, cd ..
[11:20] <pestilence> Goodspeed: are you viewing the directory?
[11:21] <Goodspeed> negative
[11:21] <chad> Press 'Ctrl + Alt + Backspace' kills X.. but how do i get back in gnome again?
[11:21] <oni> wdh: look documentation about gnomebaker
[11:21] <MartenH> gehel2, oh ic, my bad. never heard of scp until now
[11:21] <pestilence> Goodspeed: lsof |grep /media/cdrom0
[11:21] <Goodspeed> gam_serve  7760       mike   67r      DIR        3,0    4096       6464 /media/cdrom0
[11:21] <om_> Goodspeed: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=678d29a40129a16de0a1305b33219501&t=26567
[11:21] <nophix> chad: doesn't X come back?
[11:21] <MrMaDSeN> damn linux sound
[11:21] <om_> sound^
[11:22] <oni> wdh: and gcombust
[11:22] <file_> im having some trouble using rhythmbox
[11:22] <gehel2> MartenH, scp is what everybody should use. more secured, more stable, closer to the TCP/IP specs ...
[11:22] <MrMaDSeN> onboard audio on i915G chipset just wont work for me
[11:22] <MartenH> gehel2, my problem is that I need to connect to a server running SSL so the choise isn't up to me. but I'll add scp to my list of things to learn more about :)
[11:22] <nophix> chad: I mean the x login manager, gdm, xdm whatever you have
[11:22] <pestilence> Goodspeed: how about kill 7760
[11:22] <MartenH> gehel2, more secure and stable in what way? compared to ssl and ssh
[11:22] <chad> i get to console like login
[11:23] <wdh> oni, are you just thinking of some programs.. or do you actually know something about them supporting .cue files?
[11:23] <Goodspeed> pestilence you are todays winner
[11:23] <chad> no gui login
[11:23] <pestilence> ding ding ding
[11:23] <pestilence> what do i win
[11:23] <chad> also used : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:23] <Goodspeed> my ubuntu dvd
[11:23] <pestilence> sweet.  let me give you my address
[11:23] <fizile> also device "default" is already in use
[11:23] <ubuntu_> wdh: thanks :)
[11:23] <hmrocha> hi
[11:23] <nophix> chad: sure you're using gdm? startx?
[11:24] <Zeroblitzt> Anyone know how I can make it so when I click on a Directory, it opens it in the same file viewer? The way it is now, when I click on say /home/knovak/foo/, it opens that directory in a new viewer... I want it in the same one
[11:24] <hmrocha> i just installed breezy colony-2 from the cd, and it's all fucked up
[11:24] <oni> wdh: I'm jumping around helping you
[11:24] <chad> ill try
[11:24] <wdh> oni, ok, thx for that :)
[11:24] <pestilence> Zeroblitzt: change it so it browses by default, it's in preferences
[11:24] <wdh> i'll check the docs out..
[11:24] <hmrocha> i installed it in another partition because i have an hoary2breezy here
[11:25] <Zeroblitzt> ok, will try
[11:25] <Zeroblitzt> thanks
[11:25] <hmrocha> i upgrades X and now i have all this fucked up too
[11:25] <fizile> [ also device "default" is already in use]   is the error i recieve when trying to play an mp3 in rhythmbox, any ideas here?
[11:25] <pestilence> Zeroblitzt: i believe it says "open in browser mode by default" or similar
[11:25] <hmrocha> i deleted xorg.conf and did an dpkg-reconfigure to create a new one
[11:25] <fizile> alsa my bad
[11:25] <hmrocha> but X still doesn't work
[11:25] <hmrocha> i know some people that have breezy working
[11:25] <hmrocha> what can i do to make X work?
[11:26] <nophix> why not ask those people? ;)
[11:26] <om_> what happens when you try to start x?
[11:26] <hmrocha> it tries to start the graphic mode, switches to text again, this is repeated 3 times i guess, then the system crashes
[11:27] <lonelyzora> just for radomness who heard about what happend at the Boy Scout Nat'l Jamboree?
[11:27] <om_> lonelyzora: I did
[11:27] <wdh> oni, i'll just install k3b
[11:27] <hmrocha> wdh: you can use graveman
[11:27] <om_> hmrocha: you have something messed up somewhere, why not try a fresh install?
[11:27] <lonelyzora> i was there didn't see it hapen tho
[11:27] <abarbaccia> hey guys - what wiki do you think is the best?
[11:27] <nelsongs> anybody here can help?
[11:27] <hmrocha> om_: i did a fresh install of breezy colony-2 moments ago
[11:28] <hmrocha> it's all fucked up
[11:28] <gehel2> nelsongs, only if you ask a question !
[11:28] <om_> hmrocha: why not use hoary?
[11:28] <wdh> hmrocha, it doesnt seem to support burning from cue/bin
[11:28] <nelsongs> i have an hp notebook, intel 915gm graphics
[11:28] <gehel2> abarbaccia, I use moinmoin, easy, light weight ugly
[11:28] <nelsongs> it doesn't work
[11:28] <hmrocha> om_: because breezy uses gtk2.8
[11:28] <Zeroblitzt> pestilence... which preferences is it in o_o
[11:28] <gehel2> abarbaccia, I use moinmoin, easy, light weight, ugly
[11:28] <Zeroblitzt> I went to Computer --> Desktop Preferences
[11:29] <Zeroblitzt> --> File Management
[11:29] <om_> yes, and?
[11:29] <abarbaccia> gehel2, i dont want ugly tho
[11:29] <gehel2> nelsongs, did you check if it is supported by xorg ?
[11:29] <pestilence> Zeroblitzt: open up nautilus-file-management-properties in a shell
[11:29] <hmrocha> om_: and i want to try to use the new version of gnome
[11:29] <Zeroblitzt> Didn't see anything about changing the folder behavior
[11:29] <Zeroblitzt> oh, ok
[11:29] <pestilence> Zeroblitzt: it's under "Behavior"
[11:29] <pestilence> Zeroblitzt: "Always open in browser windows"
[11:30] <nelsongs> gehe12:  how can i check it?
[11:30] <oni> How I can make totem plays DivX/Xvid files?
[11:30] <pestilence> !tell oni about multimedia
[11:30] <Zeroblitzt> Cool, much better pestilence... thanks
[11:31] <pestilence> Zeroblitzt: np
[11:31] <fizile> tell me about multimedia heh
[11:31] <fizile> having some sound issues in rhythmbox
[11:31] <keyes> hello
[11:31] <nelsongs> gehel2, where can i check?
[11:31] <hmrocha> i guess i'll have to wait for breezy colony-3
[11:31] <DarkLight_CyBorg> Hello gentlemen...
[11:31] <DarkLight_CyBorg> Anyone knows something about an "HPPA" port of Ubuntu?
[11:31] <keyes> why ubuntu don't have /sbin/nologin ??
[11:31] <dooonz> anyone know of a program to repair avi files???
[11:32] <PaveK> Hi people! I'm having troubles while enabling DMA on a DVD-RW Plextor PX-716A under Ubuntu 5.04... HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[11:32] <DarkLight_CyBorg> I heard of that, but I can't find it.
[11:32] <MartenH> dooonz, only for windows
[11:32] <gehel2> nelsongs, go to the xorg website and dig in (sorry, I'm not very user friendly, but I dont know more)
[11:32] <dooonz> there has to be one for linux
[11:33] <gehel2> DarkLight_CyBorg, why use ubuntu on a HPPA ?
[11:33] <nelsongs> gehel2: i can see some that they've worked on the intel 915 on theirs
[11:33] <nophix> PaveK: you did it with sudo?
[11:33] <nelsongs> gehel2:  but mine didn't
[11:33] <PaveK> nophix -> well, from root account
[11:33] <DarkLight_CyBorg> I want to test other distro apart from Gentoo or Debian.
[11:34] <Hoxzer> can I somehow check how fast im currently uploading?
[11:34] <gehel2> nelsongs, than i'm probably not of much help. I've never been a big X freek ...
[11:34] <DarkLight_CyBorg> And, Ubuntu had a lot of good feedack lately, and so I heard they had an HPPA port.
[11:34] <MartenH> getting set up and used to ubuntu is kind of like re-inventing the wheel... finding out how to do things I know by hand in windows. I like it though, great new set of wheels, and awsome rims :)
[11:34] <gehel2> Hoxzer, iptraf
[11:34] <nophix> PaveK: not other errors than that?
[11:34] <DarkLight_CyBorg> Oh, well... And I have an old HP APollo 9000 I want under Linux.
[11:35] <nelsongs> alright, then anybody else?
[11:35] <PaveK> nophix -> /dev/dvd:
[11:35] <PaveK>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[11:35] <PaveK>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[11:35] <PaveK>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[11:35] <gehel2> DarkLight_CyBorg, that's a good reason. But i dont know of a port ...
[11:35] <DarkLight_CyBorg> Hmm...
[11:35] <Goodspeed> root@Godspeed:/media/cdrom1# ./linux-installer.sh
[11:35] <Goodspeed> bash: ./linux-installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[11:36] <Goodspeed> ...help
[11:36] <gehel2> PaveK, are u root ?
[11:36] <Goodspeed> lol
[11:36] <whitefang> how do i get java to work in firefox?
[11:36] <deprave_> anyone know how to force a cdrom to umount?
[11:36] <DarkLight_CyBorg> Well, if you don't know about, I guess it's just hype...
[11:36] <gehel2> Goodspeed, there's probably noexec in /etc/fstab
[11:36] <nophix> gehel2: he is
[11:36] <deprave_> mike@splinter:~$ sudo umount /media/cdrom
[11:36] <deprave_> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[11:36] <deprave_> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[11:36] <Goodspeed> what does that mean
[11:36] <DarkLight_CyBorg> ... Or a port thats in a very early stage.
[11:36] <deprave_> nothing is using it
[11:36] <gehel2> deprave_, lsof | grep /dev/cdrom
[11:36] <Goodspeed> deprave i just had that problem
[11:36] <nophix> PaveK: i had that problem too, and i had to modprobe the right module for my motherboardchipset
[11:37] <PaveK> gehel2 -> yes, from root
[11:37] <mbirkis> hello... i have a usb tv card from msi, and when i plugged it in it appeared in the "Device Manager" as a "Unknown (0x2800)" device... what do i need to do to get it to work?
[11:37] <canibal> como agrego un tema con superkaramba?
[11:37] <PaveK> I have a DFI NF2ULtra with nForce2 ultra chipset
[11:37] <Hoxzer> gehel2: -bash: iptraf: command not found
[11:37] <oni> Hoary-extras is a repositorie?
[11:37] <nophix> PaveK: this thread helped me, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47394&highlight=HDIO_SET_DMA+failed
[11:37] <Goodspeed> gehel what were you tlaking about with the noexec?
[11:37] <DarkLight_CyBorg> Thank you anyway, Gehel2... ;-)
[11:37] <gehel2> mbirkis, not that many TV card are supported, did you check if it is ?
[11:37] <DarkLight_CyBorg> Good bye!
[11:37] <canibal> como agrego un tema con superkaramba?
[11:38] <deprave_> root@splinter:/home/mike/.Trash # lsof | grep /dev/cdrom
[11:38] <deprave_> root@splinter:/home/mike/.Trash #
[11:38] <nophix> PaveK: you can try with "hdparm -c1 -d1 /dev/hdX" too if you want
[11:38] <mbirkis> gehel2, nope... it is a tvcard i got from a friend, i am just testing if i could get it to work...
[11:38] <PaveK> nophix -> trying right now...
[11:38] <gehel2> Goodspeed, the device is mounted with noexec. That means that you are not allowed to exec any file on it. try to type "mount"
[11:38] <canibal> alguien que hable espaol?
[11:39] <MartenH> canibal, #ubuntu-es
[11:39] <raDeon> no.
[11:39] <DarkLight_CyBorg> Canibal: Me temo que nadie mas que yo habla espaol ac.
[11:39] <mbirkis> gehel2, does it work with ndiswrapper maybe?
[11:39] <PaveK> /dev/dvd:
[11:39] <PaveK>  setting 32-bit IO_support flag to 1
[11:39] <PaveK>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[11:39] <PaveK>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[11:39] <PaveK>  IO_support   =  1 (32-bit)
[11:39] <PaveK>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[11:39] <raDeon> DarkLight_CyBorg, don't encourage him
[11:39] <spanglesontoast> back :D
[11:39] <deprave_> anyone know how force my cdrom to unmount?
[11:39] <canibal> sabes ocupar el superkaramba?
[11:39] <Goodspeed> ok some stuff came up but theen i typed ./program and it returned the same error
[11:39] <nophix> PaveK: ok, look at the link i gave you then
[11:39] <gehel2> mbirkis, I dont know, you'll have to google a bit ... sorry
[11:40] <mbirkis> gehel2, no problem... will read abit
[11:40] <hubsi> what ubuntu do i have to use?
[11:40] <oni> como que nadie habla espaol?
[11:40] <oni> canibal, necesitas ayuda con superkaramba?
[11:40] <joe_t> is it possible to unintsall things like libesd0 _without_ removing ubuntu-desktop ?
[11:40] <gehel2> Goodspeed, yep, it wouldnt have changed any thing. but could you paste the line with /dev/cdrom in it ?
[11:40] <socomm> oni: /join #ubuntu-es
[11:40] <pestilence> hubsi: use hoary
[11:40] <avadash> gehel: PM
[11:40] <oni> sorry :D
[11:40] <deprave_> anyone know how force my cdrom to unmount?
[11:40] <canibal> siiiii necesito toda la ayuda posible
[11:41] <deprave_> jaja
[11:41] <pestilence> deprave_: why won't it unmount?
[11:41] <nophix> deprave_: umount -f maybe?
[11:41] <deprave_> pestilence i don't know
[11:41] <Goodspeed> this one? /dev/hdb on /media/cdrom1 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=mike)
[11:41] <PaveK> nophix -> I'm reading... :)
[11:41] <pestilence> deprave_: what does it tell you?
[11:41] <deprave_> mike@splinter:~$ sudo umount -f /media/cdrom
[11:41] <deprave_> umount2: Device or resource busy
[11:41] <deprave_> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[11:41] <deprave_> root@splinter:/home/mike/.Trash # lsof | grep /dev/cdrom
[11:41] <deprave_> root@splinter:/home/mike/.Trash #
[11:41] <oni> canibal, /join #ubuntu-es
[11:41] <pestilence> deprave_: lsof |grep /media/cdrom0
[11:41] <pestilence> you don't want to grep for /dev/cdrom
[11:42] <hubsi> could someone say me what theis breezy means?
[11:42] <pestilence> it opens the mount point, not the device
[11:42] <deprave_> pestilence: nothing
[11:42] <joachim> hello
[11:42] <deprave_> oh media