[00:25] <charles> tedg, I think both options are pretty ugly :)
[00:26] <charles> tedg, how would creating two actions work?
[00:26] <charles> if they both have to hold the track info state, they'll need to stay in sync
[00:27] <charles> that's probably less work / less wart than doing it at the gui level
[00:40] <Nothing_Much> Is the WellsFargo app on Ubuntu official? :D
[01:36] <slangasek> ogra_, stgraber: sorry, missed those highlights earlier... yes, I think waiting until Colin is available tomorrow to help is a better choice
[01:36] <slangasek> ogra_, stgraber: (which I think is de facto what you're already doing, given the time of my reply ;)
[01:37] <stgraber> slangasek: yep
[01:37] <stgraber> slangasek: I've got a ppa ready and ogra_ will coordinate with cjwatson to get a test image produced tomorrow morning
[01:38] <slangasek> sounds good
[01:48] <tedg> charles, Yeah, pondering the same thing.
[01:49] <tedg> charles, Hopefully we can split the greeter and go back to the good solution at some point.
[01:54] <jiechic> I compile the ubuntu touch for my phone (LG P990),but i see fastboot didn't work for my phone.In the past,my phone was flash by nvflash ,hao can't i flash ubuntu-touch rom by nvflash,and flash ubuntu rootfs
[03:01] <ahoneybun> popey, the Nexus Status page should reflect the missing APN settings as that relates to Mobile Data
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> new RTM article: http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/linux/Ubuntu-Touch-Review-459511.shtml
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> paultbeck: hi
[07:04] <eexp> hi, how to take a screenshot, i use nexus 5. phablet-screenshot and mirfbdump all fails.
[07:05] <popey> how do they fail?
[07:05] <eexp> phablet-screenshot says, can not found device. i had used -s switch.
[07:05] <taiebot> HI devel proposed is broken black screen on start up and i cannot log in adb shell
[07:06] <taiebot> After this morning update
[07:06] <taiebot> dmesg
[07:06] <popey> eexp: so "adb devices" shows it or not?
[07:06] <eexp> mirfbdump this script not support nexus 5, and i modify the script. but the result png show mess.
[07:06] <eexp> adb devices show it.
[07:07] <eexp> i allow debug function.
[07:07] <eexp> and -s i sure i use correct serial number. for i copy it from dmesg
[07:09] <eexp> perhaps i use multirom. so mirfbdump fails?
[07:09] <popey> when my phone reboots I'll try it here
[07:09] <popey> unfortunately my nexus 4 has been sat at the "installing update..." screen for 10 mins which worries me
[07:12] <taiebot> popey: devel-proposed seems broken trying to access adb to reflash to a more stable channel but cannot as adb requires to give the password. Is my phone completely useless?
[07:12] <popey> the password is your phone passcode
[07:12] <popey> trying to debug it now
[07:13] <taiebot> yeah but but i am keep getting Expecting the device to expose an adb interface...
[07:13]  * popey pokes ogra_ ^
[07:13] <popey> 2014/09/23 08:13:28 Error while querying free space for : no such file or directory
[07:13] <popey> uhoh
[07:17] <taiebot> Ok got it via recovery mode. Flashing again ... pffu :P that was worrying that i could not gain access to adb when my phone was completely broken
[08:25] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Restless Legs Awareness Day! :-D
[08:46] <seb128> mpt, hey, do you know if we have design recommendation on the "order of actions/buttons" for the phone ui? like validation/ack of changes on the right
[08:47] <mpt> seb128, I understood that it’s affirmative on the right when horizontal, and on the top when vertical
[08:48] <mpt> But I don’t think we have that written down anywhere
[08:48] <seb128> mpt, thanks, so gallery in import mode seems wrong? the header has "check - cross" on the top right, e.g the validation is on the left
[08:49] <seb128> I just keep hitting the wrong one because I'm used to have the validation on the right
[08:49] <seb128> that's a valid bug report?
[08:49] <mpt> seb128, what’s “import mode”?
[08:50] <seb128> mpt, go to settings->backgroud, click "add image"
[08:50] <mpt> seb128, oh, yes, that is wrong
[08:50] <seb128> mpt, thanks
[08:51] <seb128> mpt, btw I opened bug #1372822 as well
[08:51] <seb128> the control in the header made the validation really non obvious
[08:51] <seb128> especially if you scroll down the list of photos and the header gets out of the screen
[08:51] <seb128> you get let out without any control to validate your selection
[08:52] <mpt> seb128, agreed … This is a problem on iOS too <https://twitter.com/lukew/status/468432888162037760>
[08:53] <seb128> mpt, right, I bet that iOS keep the control visible on screen when scrolling at least though? ;-)
[08:53] <mpt> yes
[08:54] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[08:54] <tsdgeos> guys i'm getting
[08:54] <tsdgeos> 2014/09/23 10:49:10 Rebooting into recovery to flash
[08:54] <tsdgeos> 2014/09/23 10:50:22 Failed to enter Recovery
[08:54] <tsdgeos> when trying to flash my nexus4
[08:54] <tsdgeos> any idea?
[08:55] <tsdgeos> wow
[08:55] <tsdgeos> now the screen says "Download mode Do not unplug the device until the process is complete"
[08:55] <tsdgeos> that's new :D
[09:02] <mandel> Elleo, are you around?
[09:02] <mandel> Elleo, shall we try and test the branch I made for udm?
[09:09] <Elleo> mandel: okay :)
[09:10] <mandel> Elleo, here is the MR
[09:10] <mandel> https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/deflate/+merge/235551
[09:10] <mandel> Elleo, there is a deb there, if you look at the qml binding you now have  a Metadata object that you can use to set diff metadata
[09:11] <Elleo> okay, looks good
[09:11] <mandel> Elleo, so, something like Metadata { deflate:true } would do the trick
[09:12] <mandel> Elleo, it will return the path in the finished signal already deflated
[09:13] <Elleo> the path to individual items, or to the directory its deflated in?
[09:19] <mandel> Elleo, the dir
[09:20] <tsdgeos> so i'm not the only one having boot problems with image 252
[09:20] <tsdgeos> ogra_: ↑ any idea if it's known to be broken ?
[09:20] <Elleo> okay, I'll get content hub to walk through the dir and create content items for things when deflate is set
[09:23] <ogra_> tsdgeos, known, seems lightdm cant start (havent debugged further yet)
[09:24] <tsdgeos> ogra_: can one use --revision=251 to get image 251?
[09:24] <ogra_> indeed
[09:24] <tsdgeos> ok, will try to get that, tx
[09:44] <ogra_> cjwatson, hey for bug 1332538 ...stgraber developed  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8404456/ for right after debootstrap and http://paste.ubuntu.com/8404457/ at the end of the build ... neither stgraber nor slangasek nor me were sure how to test that and agreed that i should ping you with it today ...
[09:44] <ogra_> cjwatson, seems stgraber has a PPA ready we could use for a test build but neither of us knew exactly how to do that
 ogra_: anyway, I'll get back to doing the work I'm supposed to do now. If you can catch cjwatson tomorrow morning, ask him if he can trigger a touch build with ppa:stgraber/experimental added to it. I've got the updated live-build and livecd-rootfs in there.
[09:48] <Bharat_> hi
[09:48] <Bharat_> is there anyone who can help me install ubuntu touch on xperia z ultra
[10:03] <mandel> Elleo, any luck?
[10:05] <Elleo> mandel: just compiling a modified version of content hub now
[10:06] <mandel> Elleo, awesome, I saw that the reply headers had everything as we expect it from the server side so everything should work
[10:06] <Elleo> mandel: okay, cool, will let you know as soon as I have something working
[10:09] <cjwatson> cwayne,jdstrand: you should definitely check the mtime of the symlink, not the mtime of what it points to, because otherwise things go wrong in the event of a symlink needing to be adjusted due to say a package reverting to the version in a lower database layer.  if I'm understanding your question correctly ...
[10:10] <ogra_> ARGH !
[10:10] <ogra_> ARGH ! ARGH! ARGH !
[10:10] <ogra_> ogra@styx:~/Devel/branches$ adb shell ls -lh /var/log|grep -c usermetrics
[10:10] <ogra_> 18
[10:10] <ogra_> so that is why 252 doesnt boot then :P
[10:11] <cjwatson> stgraber: for one-off tests: must be a devirt PPA; then you can run a build with EXTRA_PPAS=owner/name in the cdimage environment
[10:11] <ogra_> perfect example of the bug stgraber has the fix for
[10:11] <ogra_> :)
[10:11] <cjwatson> stgraber: I suggest doing it with DEBUG=1 so that it doesn't publish anywhere and then you can just look at the log or whatever.  not doing this right now since this is probably better done when you're at the wheel to inspect the results immediately
[10:13] <cjwatson> ogra_: oh, just catching up - is it enough for you to just look at the build log after the build and confirm that it's doing the right thing, or do you need to inspect image contents?
[10:14] <ogra_> cjwatson, yeah, we just want to be sure the build doesnt fall over on any maintainer scripts that do evil things with user credentials
[10:14] <cjwatson> stgraber's PPA is a virtualised one, so we're going to need to copy that to a devirt PPA
[10:15]  * cjwatson creates one for himself
[10:17] <cjwatson> https://launchpad.net/~cjwatson/+archive/ubuntu/devirt2/+packages in preparation
[10:20] <ogra_> cool, thanks
[10:32] <seb128> who worked on click for scopes?
[10:32] <seb128> is the format of the "scope" key used in the hook defined somewhere?
[10:33] <seb128>         "_directory"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:33] <seb128>                 "scope": "youtube"
[10:33] <seb128> $ ls<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:33] <seb128><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:33] <seb128>
[10:33] <seb128> that's not very handy
[10:34] <seb128> would be nicer if the scope value was the filename like it is for desktop entries
[10:36] <Elleo> mandel: looks like you aren't registering Metadata as a QML type
[10:36] <Elleo> mandel: should just need something like "qmlRegisterType<Ubuntu::DownloadManager::Metadata>(uri, 0, 1, "Metadata");" in backend.cpp
[10:36] <mandel> Elleo, oh! I completely forgot about that, give me a sec
[10:38] <cjwatson> ogra_: I guess you just started a build for something else?
[10:38] <ogra_> cjwatson, yeah, rtm
[10:38] <ogra_> oh, did i step on your toes ?
[10:38] <cjwatson> ogra_: the requested test is for RTM too, right?
[10:38] <cjwatson> ogra_: well, not particularly, I can just wait, hit a lock
[10:38] <mandel> Elleo, changes pushed
[10:39] <ogra_> yeah, but i delayed the result :)
[10:39] <cjwatson> *shrug*
[10:39] <ogra_> cjwatson, eventually rtm too, yeah
[10:39] <cjwatson> ogra_: oh, in the first instance I'm supposed to test this for utopic?
[10:39] <Elleo> mandel: okay, thanks :)
[10:39] <ogra_> cjwatson, well, as you like, we need to fix both in the end
[10:39] <cjwatson> ok, running for utopic in parallel
[10:39] <ogra_> cool :)
[10:40] <cjwatson> ogra_,stgraber: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/utopic/ubuntu-touch/+build/7522 https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/utopic/ubuntu-touch/+build/7523
[10:40] <cjwatson> image output won't go anywhere particularly interesting
[10:41] <ogra_> right, we just need to know if a) lifecd-rootfs/live-build still cope ... and b) if there are any offending maintainer scripts
[10:41] <seb128> cjwatson, hey, do you know about scope/click/hook (the question I asked a bit earlier) or who worked on that?
[10:42] <cjwatson> seb128: don't know about it myself, can't think who worked on it - look for the file under /usr/share/click/hooks/ and track that down via revision control?
[10:44] <seb128> cjwatson, do you know what project is shipping those? or where there is a vcs?
[10:49] <cjwatson> seb128: should be findable pretty easily with dpkg -S?
[10:49] <cjwatson> $ dpkg -S /usr/share/click/hooks/scope.hook
[10:49] <cjwatson> libunity-scopes3:amd64: /usr/share/click/hooks/scope.hook
[10:50] <cjwatson> so that's unity-scopes-api, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-scopes-api/trunk/view/head:/debian/libunity-scopes3.scope.click-hook
[10:52] <cjwatson> seb128: that points to mhr3
[10:52] <seb128> cjwatson, thanks, I was looking at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:52] <seb128> cjwatson, yeah, I feared it would
[10:52] <seb128> who is the new mhr3? ;-)
[10:52] <seb128> pete-woods, ^?
[10:53] <cjwatson> stgraber: looks like you haven't installed lb_chroot_early_hooks or something.  Happy debugging :)
[10:53] <ogra_> oh man
[10:55] <pete-woods> seb128: hi! I don't quite understand the question. the scope hook is owned by unity-scopes-api, yes
[10:56] <seb128> pete-woods, see this channel log from 10:32 utc
[10:56] <seb128> pete-woods, do you know who decided of the format of the hook-scope and of the filename/layout?
[10:57] <pete-woods> seb128: ah, the hook points at a "scope" directory. i.e. a dir with a .so and a .ini in it
[10:57] <seb128> pete-woods, and if it's documented somewhere
[10:57] <seb128> pete-woods, the "desktop" hook uses e.g 'desktop": "com.ubuntu.calculator_calculator.desktop"'
[10:58] <seb128> pete-woods, that makes easier to write a parser, I'm not even sure how to reconstruct the .ini name in the scope case
[10:58] <pete-woods> seb128: it's documented in http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/scopes/sdk-14.10/index/
[10:58] <seb128> pete-woods, could be have "scope: youtube/com.ubuntu.scopes.youtube_youtube.ini" rather than "scope: youtube"?
[10:59] <pete-woods> seb128: but it's the directory that represents a scope, not just an ini file, there's also a NAME-settings.ini file
[11:00] <seb128> pete-woods, do you know how I can compute "scopename"? is that the "name" of the hook?
[11:00] <seb128>         "name": "com.canonical.scopes.bbc",
[11:00] <pete-woods> seb128: yes, it's PACKAGENAME_SCOPENAME_VERSION.ini
[11:01] <seb128> pete-woods, those infos don't seem to be available in "click list --manifest"?
[11:01] <seb128> pete-woods, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8409925/
[11:02] <seb128> how do I find that the .ini is "com.ubuntu.scopes.youtube_youtube.ini"
[11:02] <seb128> ups
[11:03] <seb128> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8409931/
[11:03] <seb128> rather
[11:03] <pete-woods> seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8409933/
[11:03] <pete-woods> I think that's correct
[11:03] <seb128> pete-woods, no version?
[11:04] <pete-woods> seb128: yes, sorry, I was wrong about that (just looked at the youtube scope)
[11:04] <seb128> pete-woods, thanks
[11:04] <pete-woods> :)
[11:04] <seb128> I wonder if I'm just not going to do a "list *.ini in the dir, pick the first one"
[11:05] <seb128> pete-woods, btw that's for bug #1368920
[11:05] <seb128> getting the icon to display in the installed apps list
[11:05] <seb128> (that shouldn't be that difficult :/)
[11:07] <Laney> still more problems there?
[11:07] <seb128> Laney, "there"?
[11:07] <Laney> with finding icons
[11:08] <seb128> Laney, well, they defined a new file/format for scopes
[11:08] <seb128> some .ini using DisplayName instead of Name=
[11:08] <Laney> go figure
[11:08] <seb128> Laney, so the parser needs to be updated, which I'm doing
[11:11] <Laney> seems unfortunate
[11:11] <Laney> but cool
[11:13] <seb128> yeah
[11:28] <ahayzen> rsalveti, ping
[11:48] <Elleo> mandel: the deflate property is read-only: Q_PROPERTY(bool deflate READ deflate NOTIFY deflateChanged) <-- needs 'WRITE setDeflate' as well
[11:49] <mandel> Elleo, did I make such a stupid mistake?? I'm so embarrassed
[11:49] <Elleo> mandel: no worries, easy thing to do :)
[11:50] <mandel> Elleo, done
[11:50] <Elleo> mandel: thanks :)
[11:50] <mandel> Elleo, I even had the set methods there..
[11:50] <mandel> rev 344
[11:51] <Elleo> :)
[11:53] <gcollura> sorry guys, what's the phablet's password? it used to be phablet, but the device keeps refusing it
[11:53] <popey> 0000
[11:53] <ogra_> whatever you set
[11:53] <popey> or that
[11:53] <popey> ☻
[11:53] <ogra_> 0000 only in the emulator
[11:53] <ogra_> on devices there is no pw set by default unless you did set one in the UI or during u-d-f
[11:55] <gcollura> interesting, thanks :)
[12:20] <nerochiaro> does anyone know what the error messages that keep getting printed in the log of applications mean ? like this: libust[13740/13764]: Error: Error opening shm /lttng-ust-wait-5-32011 (in get_wait_shm() at lttng-ust-comm.c:886)
[12:20] <nerochiaro> ogra_: popey ^
[12:21] <ogra_> nerochiaro, i think ubuntu-app-launch uses lttng ... talk to ted
[12:21] <mterry> ogra_, we can't boot?  :(  anything related to me?
[12:21] <ogra_> mterry, lol, no
[12:21] <ogra_> at least i doubt it
[12:22] <ogra_> related to anything on http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/252.changes i guess
[12:22] <ogra_> or to an android rebuild that came in with the same iamge
[12:22] <ogra_> we see u-s-c die
[12:22] <ogra_> (and lightdm respawn forever)
[12:23] <nerochiaro> tedg: do you know what the error messages in the log of apps are about ? like this libust[13740/13764]: Error: Error opening shm /lttng-ust-wait-5-32011 (in get_wait_shm() at lttng-ust-comm.c:886)
[12:23] <mterry> hrm
[12:23] <nerochiaro> tedg: there is a continuous stream of them. besides being very annoying i also worry about the overhead
[12:24] <ogra_> nerochiaro, yeah, we need to definitely quieten that before final release
[12:24] <nerochiaro> ogra_: agree. and potentially by fixing whatever is causing them
[12:24] <ogra_> that too
[12:30] <joachimvda> Hi, can I ask some user questions here?
[12:31] <joachimvda> I have installed Ubuntu-for-devices on my nexus4 over the weekend
[12:31] <joachimvda> But I have some problems. How can I install extra apps? The store doesn't seem to show an install button.
[12:34] <popey> joachimvda: login to ubuntu one in system settings -> accounts
[12:40] <davmor2> joachimvda: click on the app you want to install, it then gives you the overview page, there is an install button then.  If you don't have an account setup it will then point you at how to set one up
[12:41] <jdstrand> cjwatson: hey, on bug #1342858, do you need more info from me? I was thinking about manually cleaning up but won't if you'd prefer not
[12:42] <cjwatson> jdstrand: We have a fix queued for our next upload; I was rather hoping I could ask you to test that once it's ready to land
[12:42] <jdstrand> sure, that's fine
[12:42] <cjwatson> jdstrand: Probably this week
[12:42] <jdstrand> I'll be patient
[12:47] <Elleo> mandel: getting an "Unexpected object assignment" error when setting the metadata property, this is enough to reproduce it: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8410573/
[12:48] <Elleo> mandel: alternatively creating the Metadata object separately and passing its id results in: "Unable to assign Ubuntu::DownloadManager::Metadata to [unknown property type]"
[12:49] <Elleo> mandel: its not something I've bumped into before, can't see anything obvious in your property creation that should cause issues
[12:50] <mterry> seb128, I'm not seeing the same Mir error when running the wizard
[12:59] <joachimvda> popey: I am logged into Ubuntu one - I think
[12:59] <joachimvda> I can now only see one account in the accounts configuration and am not able to add other accounts or verify that the login worked
[13:01] <joachimvda> davmor2: I never saw an install or setup button
[13:03] <nik90> ogra_: erm, I get mako not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed when trying to flash phone
[13:03] <davmor2> joachimvda: so if you goto the Ubuntu Store, click in the search icon and type in dekko then click on the icon that appears, it should take you to the about app page that is the one that should have the install button on
[13:03] <davmor2> nik90: current image is broken anyway
[13:03] <nik90> davmor2: well I upgraded to r251 and now it doesnt boot
[13:04] <joachimvda> I am on 243
[13:04] <davmor2> joachimvda: yeh the store still works the same way.
[13:04] <davmor2> nik90: 252 surely is the broken one
[13:05] <nik90> davmor2: I was on 250, and told it to update the phone. So I guess it went to 252 or whatever was latest on devel-proposed. So it could be that
[13:06] <ogra_> hmm
[13:06] <ogra_> did anyone even test 251 ?
[13:06] <davmor2> nik90: do devel-proposed --revision=251 --bootstrap  but you'll need to drop the phone into bootloader first
[13:07] <gcollura> ogra_, I'm on 251
[13:07] <davmor2> ogra_: yes I did 251 worked here
[13:07] <ogra_> gcollura, on mako (N4) ?
[13:07] <gcollura> everything is fine
[13:07] <ogra_> ok
[13:07] <gcollura> yep
[13:07] <ogra_> good
[13:07] <ogra_> better dont upgrade ;)
[13:07] <joachimvda> davmor2: I see the app details page but no additional buttons there
[13:09] <davmor2> joachimvda: can you phone the phone into your pc keep it on that page, open a terminal on the pc and do phablet-screenshot dekko.png and then put the image on web somewhere please
[13:11] <nik90> davmor2: is it possible to boot into bootloader with adb?
[13:12] <nik90> nvr mind I just tried adb reboot bootloader
[13:12] <davmor2> nik90: otherwise on mako you can hold vol-up + vol-down + power to get into bootloader :)
[13:13] <nik90> ah ok
[13:25] <nerochiaro> jhodapp: hi, I've been digging in the hybris source for a while looking for a place where to set timestamp metadata, but it appears that it's not a kind of metadata that the underlying layer supports. android will always do whatever it wants when creating the EXIF tags for the timestamps. so i'm thinking of using exiv2 or some other library to change the EXIF tags as soon as i receive the jpeg data buffer
[13:25] <nerochiaro> jhodapp: does it seem reasonable ?
[13:25] <davmor2> nik90: you sorted now dude?
[13:25] <nerochiaro> jhodapp: or adding exiv2 as a dependency of qtubuntu-camera isn't such a great idea ?
[13:26] <nik90> davmor2: no idea..it got stuck at http://paste.ubuntu.com/8410792/
[13:27] <jhodapp> nerochiaro, exiv2 being a binary, right? so you'd use it to modify the jpeg file itself?
[13:27] <nik90> davmor2: I think I am going to stick with devel from now on..
[13:27] <davmor2> nik90: hahaha
[13:29] <nerochiaro> jhodapp: it's both a library and a binary. i'd use the library
[13:29] <nerochiaro> jhodapp: and use it to modify the jpeg in the buffer i receive before saving it to disk
[13:29] <jhodapp> nerochiaro, ah ok cool, I don't have a problem with you using that library
[13:30] <jhodapp> nerochiaro, if it works and is reliable and there really isn't a way to do that on the Android side, then I'm all for it
[13:30] <jhodapp> nerochiaro, one other idea would be to use gstreamer to do it
[13:31] <jhodapp> nerochiaro, because then I could move that into the media-hub service once I move all of the rest of the camera functionality there
[13:31] <nerochiaro> jhodapp: well, there isn't a way to do that as far as i can see. the real question i have is why our android layer returns the timestamp as UTC in the exif tags, while other phones i see save their jpeg with local time in the exif tags
[13:32] <jhodapp> nerochiaro, you mean other phones that also use the same Android code, right?
[13:32] <nerochiaro> jhodapp: good point. no. just other android phones
[13:33] <jhodapp> nerochiaro, that's what I mean though...they should be using the same Android side code, so that means there is a way to do this on the Android side
[13:34] <nerochiaro> jhodapp: there might be a way, but i haven't found it in more than half a day of digging
[13:35] <jhodapp> nerochiaro, ok...it's also possible that the Android phones are doing that at an application level too
[13:35] <nerochiaro> jhodapp: i thought about it but seems unlikely. in any case i don't have the android sources, so i can't see what android really does between when we ask it to shoot a picture and when it callbacks with the jpeg data buffer
[13:36] <jhodapp> nerochiaro, ok, so you simply want to be able to set the timestamp data format that gets written to the jpeg file as part of the EXIF data...right?
[13:37] <nerochiaro> jhodapp: yes, the two timestamps DateOriginal and DateDigitized
[13:37] <jhodapp> nerochiaro, ok, I can dig a bit in between my long running video tests
[13:39] <nerochiaro> jhodapp: i think in the meantime i will go ahead and see if i can change the exif using exiv2. i trust exiv2 more than gst when it comes to this job, it seems with gst i would have a lot more overhead
[13:40] <jhodapp> nerochiaro, sure, that's fine with me
[13:40] <nerochiaro> and exiv2 does one job and does it well, where gst... well, we know
[13:40] <jhodapp> nerochiaro, shouldn't be much code
[13:40] <nerochiaro> agree
[13:40] <jhodapp> yes, gotta love gst
[13:40] <nerochiaro> :)
[13:46] <mandel> Elleo, ok, looking
[13:47] <Elleo> mandel: thanks
[13:48] <mandel> Elleo, got it (I think)
[13:49] <Elleo> ah, cool
[13:55] <lool> Hi folks, does anyone have boot issues on nexus devices lately?
[13:55] <Elleo> lool: there was a post on the mailinglist about a problem with image 252
[13:56] <lool> thanks
[13:56] <Elleo> lool: I'm not sure what the details were, but sounded like boot was failing for some people with that image
[13:56] <Elleo> lool: so can probably be avoided by just reflashing with 251
[13:57] <stgraber> cjwatson: thanks for running the test, looking at it now
[13:58] <Kebabfish> my boot is failing too, and I need some help to reinstall ubuntu on my nexus 7 (2013). Is this the right channel to get help?
[13:58] <Kebabfish> used the devel - channel (v251 or 252)
[13:58] <seb128> artmello, hey
[13:58] <seb128> artmello, you are working on gallery right?
[13:58] <seb128> artmello, https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/gallery-app/trunk/+activereviews  has quite some changes "ready to land" since july which didn't land yet, do you know why?
[13:59] <stgraber> cjwatson: doh, executable bit :)
[13:59] <lool> Elleo: ack, thanks
[14:06] <mandel> Elleo, looks like QML + namespaces in property are a problem, the qml compiler is utter crap
[14:09] <vitimiti> hi
[14:11] <Elleo> mandel: odd, will be interested to see your fix for that so I know for future reference
[14:13] <ahayzen> cyphermox, ping
[14:14] <mandel> Elleo, Qt QMetaObject system expect string types. and "Foo::Bar" != "Bar", so the QPROPERTY macro needs the exact same "string" used in the qregister call
[14:14] <mandel> Elleo, while cpp does not care
[14:14] <cyphermox> ahayzen: hello
[14:15] <ahayzen> cyphermox, I have a question/issue with bluetooth are you best to talk to?
[14:15] <cyphermox> maybe
[14:15] <ahayzen> hehe
[14:15] <cyphermox> shoot, I'll try to help :)
[14:15] <ahayzen> cyphermox, I've been playing about with a bluetooth speaker testing the music-app. I've been playing music for the past 2hr 30mins or so and suddenly the music stopped. The speaker said that nothing was connected and when I went to system-settings nothing appeared when it scanned, I had to restart my device to get connected again.
[14:15] <ahayzen> cyphermox, This is a log around the time, note "Sep 23 14:48:55 ubuntu-phablet bluetoothd[2120]: HCI dev 0 down" http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8410966/
[14:16] <ahayzen> cyphermox, i can provide more logs if that helps...i just don't know which ones to look in ;)
[14:16] <cyphermox> ahayzen: do you have more logs before that?
[14:16] <ahayzen> cyphermox, yep i'll go back a few more minutes...
[14:17] <cyphermox> it looks like maybe the driver crashed
[14:17] <mhall119> hey guys, how does a community contributor submit a new keyboard layout? https://plus.google.com/u/0/+TuranMahmudov/posts/WyxwS7Z5n7y
[14:18] <ahayzen> cyphermox, thats a further 10mins back http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8411103/
[14:19] <Elleo> mandel: ah, interesting
[14:19] <ahayzen> doesn't seem to be much going on before
[14:19] <mandel> Elleo, fix pushed
[14:19] <Elleo> mandel: thanks
[14:20] <mandel> Elleo, the qml compiler is utter crap hehe
[14:21] <ahayzen> cyphermox, and thats a grep bluetooth of syslog for today http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8411114/
[14:22] <cyphermox> ahayzen: actually, it would be more helpful if it wasn't just bluetooth
[14:22] <Elleo> mandel: did you double check with security about this approach? since udm is unconfined whilst doing the actual extracting?
[14:22] <mandel> Elleo, no, but the trusted helper will be unconfined too, right?
[14:22] <ahayzen> cyphermox, which time period do you want?
[14:22] <cyphermox> just a few minutes earlier
[14:22] <ahayzen> cyphermox, note it was around 14:18:55 that it died
[14:22] <cyphermox> than what was already in your log before
[14:23] <mandel> Elleo, also, we are using the default behavior of qnetwork.. if it is a problem.. well we have a split in every app using it
[14:23] <ahayzen> cyphermox, this was 10mins before http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8411103/
[14:23] <cyphermox> there's a hit of something happening on wifi, that's related
[14:23] <mandel> Elleo, I'll check nevertheless
[14:23] <ahayzen> cyphermox, ok i'll take it back a bit further...
[14:23] <Elleo> mandel: not sure, jdstrand's comment talks about having a confined helper on the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app/+bug/1365993
[14:23] <Elleo> mandel: not entirely sure how that would work
[14:23] <cyphermox> ahayzen: that's good
[14:23] <cyphermox> ahayzen: I have everything needed
[14:23] <ahayzen> cyphermox, cool
[14:23] <mandel> Elleo, yep, I saw his comment, I wrote something in the bug late at nigh (with lots of typos :-/ )
[14:24]  * ahayzen wonders what happened to his WiFi
[14:24] <Elleo> mandel: ah, didn't spot the new comment
[14:24] <ahayzen> cyphermox, let me know if u need any other logs/info
[14:26] <Elleo> mandel: I'd have thought as long as the qt stuff can be trusted not to write anything outside of the specified directory there shouldn't be any issue
[14:26] <Elleo> mandel: but I'm probably not aware of every possible security issue
[14:28] <mandel> Elleo, same here, I'll ping them and will have a chat, having said that, we are doing the same with the click scope (in the sense that we trust udm)
[14:29] <Elleo> mandel: okay, cool
[14:32] <fundies> http://paste2.org/bP65n63x
[14:32] <fundies> how i fix?
[14:33] <mandel> ogra_, you might know fundies problem
[14:34] <fundies> i tried clean cache and rm -rf /cache/*
[14:34] <fundies> no help
[14:35] <ogra_> fundies, looks liek adb isnt running on your device ?
[14:35] <fundies> i can adb shell
[14:36] <mandel> Elleo, I have tested the code you wrote in the pastebin, I run it with qmlscene and everything is ok
[14:36] <fundies> ogra_, List of devices attached
[14:36] <fundies> 01d134ac8e87d7e6	device
[14:36] <mandel> Elleo, please let me know if you can confirm it is fixed
[14:37] <ogra_> fundies, adb reboot recovery ...
[14:37] <Elleo> mandel: okay, cool, just waiting for jenkins to finish rebuilding and then will give it a go
[14:38] <ogra_> fundies, then try again (and use the --device option for ubuntu-device-flash
[14:38] <ogra_> )
[14:40] <fundies> ogra_, seems to be downloading
[14:40] <fundies> at 30kbs :'(
[14:45] <fundies> I can use wifi hotspot with stable image right? I just need some sort of bash script?
[15:05] <mpt> kenvandine, I just tried installing silo 1 using “citrain device-upgrade 1” and I got an error: “need the remote password (-r) for package operations”
[15:05] <mpt> -r is not mentioned in “citrain -h”
[15:13] <gcollura> is it better to use ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed or devel-proposed?
[15:14] <ogra_> rtm gets a lot more QA
[15:14] <ogra_> but is also slightly behind
[15:15] <gcollura> ok thanks ogra_
[15:23] <mpt> Hmm, I installed a system update and now my phone won’t start up
[15:23] <ogra_> mpt, yes, known and just being fixed
[15:25] <kenvandine> ugh... bit by image 252
[15:26] <kenvandine> mpt,  you have to re-flash specifying revision=251
[15:27] <ogra_> or wait 2-3h
[15:28] <mpt> mako not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/devel
[15:28] <ogra_> fix just got uploaded ... once it got promoted into the archive we'll build a new image
[15:28] <ogra_> mpt, reboot to recovery and try from there
[15:34] <mpt> https://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html#booting-into-fastboot-mode
[15:34] <mpt> …Pressing and holding Volume Down, then pressing and holding power, makes it restart but still gives only a black screen
[15:35] <Elleo> mandel: just tested and the zip doesn't appear to get unzipped, I'm wondering if deflate actually works on things like that or if its purely aimed at gzipped resources (e.g. webservers serving css, html, etc. gzipped)
[15:37] <mpt> (Hurrah, cyphermox fixed it)
[15:38] <mpt> 2014/09/23 16:37:57 Failed to locate image 251
[15:39] <ogra_> weird, i just installed it here
[15:39] <ogra_> must be your broken network over there :P
[15:39] <mpt> ubuntu-device-flash --wipe --channel=ubuntu-touch/devel --revision=251 # Is that correct?
[15:39] <ogra_> yes
[15:39] <kenvandine> no
[15:39] <kenvandine> devel-proposed ?
[15:39] <ogra_> if you are in recovery you want --device too
[15:39] <ogra_> oh
[15:39] <ogra_> right
[15:39] <ogra_> devel-proposed
[15:39] <kenvandine> mpt, and you don't need wipe
[15:40] <ogra_> unless you want :)
[15:40] <mpt> “Device --wipe not found on server” 🙈
[15:41] <ogra_> lol
[15:41] <ogra_> --device=mako
[15:41] <mpt> Thanks :-)
[15:42] <jgdx> kenvandine, hi, could you take another look at https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/wifi-connect-is-not-dialog-fix-1366006/+merge/234842 ?
[15:43] <davmor2> mpt: --wipe at the end normally,  ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/devel --revision=25 --wipe
[15:43] <Damian_> Anyone got a tut for nexus 5 install?
[15:43] <kenvandine> jgdx, sure
[15:44] <jgdx> kenvandine, thankyou
[15:44] <mpt> jgdx, got a screenshot? :-)
[15:49] <jgdx> mpt, right!
[15:58] <jgdx> mpt, http://imgur.com/a/GFrEt#0
[15:58] <stgraber> cjwatson: took a bit longer than it should have to fix that issue, I also had to rebase the livecd-rootfs change, anyway, new packages are in ppa:stgraber/experimental as I'm still waiting for webops to set me up with a devirt ppa...
[15:58] <jgdx> mpt, there are multiple bugs filed against the Dialog element, in case you're wondering why the spacing is weird.
[15:59] <mpt> jgdx, that was my first question. :-) Excellent work otherwise!
[15:59] <jgdx> mpt, awesome! Debs here if you wanna test it: http://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-builder-utopic-armhf/6313/artifact/work/output/*zip*/output.zip
[16:00] <cjwatson> stgraber: ok, copied to my PPA
[16:00] <mpt> jgdx, is the odd outline of the OptionSelector one of those bugs?
[16:01] <jgdx> mpt, it's the same through all of uss I think. Not sure how that got introduced or how it is fixed.
[16:02] <cjwatson> stgraber: when they show up as fully built and published on https://launchpad.net/~cjwatson/+archive/ubuntu/devirt2/+packages, feel free to run "DEBUG=1 EXTRA_PPAS=cjwatson/devirt2 for-project ubuntu-touch cron.daily-preinstalled --live" as cdimage@nusakan to try again
[16:03] <fundies> ogra_, http://paste2.org/VmcYCEdV it failed
[16:03] <mpt> jgdx, where else does ubuntu-system-settings use a collapsed OptionSelector?
[16:05] <jgdx> mpt, was looking for the same, but look at any selector
[16:06] <mpt> jgdx, oh, true
[16:08] <stgraber> cjwatson: ok, will do
[16:09] <mpt> JMulholland, I reported bug 1373011
[16:09] <ogra_> mpt, "on first use" ?
[16:10] <ogra_> thts surely all the time if you just scroll around a bit
[16:10] <jgdx> has the pass phrase dialog changed to a text field?
[16:12] <mpt> ogra_, true. :-) Fixed.
[16:12] <JMulholland> thanks for the heads up MPT!
[16:13] <ogra_> :)
[16:26] <elopio> dobey: following our previous discussion about testing with non-production servers, pitti pointed to this: http://cwrap.org/
[16:27] <elopio> looks really good. I'll play a little to see what we can improve from our current approach.
[16:29]  * genii squints
[16:30] <genii> Oh, cwrap, not crap
[16:30] <mandel> Elleo, should work like that, let me debug
[16:30] <mandel> Elleo, do you have the header form the reply?
[16:33] <stgraber> doh, forgot about the timestamp in /etc/shadow... will have to work around that one a bit...
[16:53] <stgraber> cjwatson: new copy of livecd-rootfs, can you copy it to your ppa?
[16:59] <dobey> elopio: that would be helpful, yes. i was actually thinking of starting a similar project a while back, but never got around to it
[17:19] <Elleo> mandel: sorry, got distracted by a different bug; here are the headers I get from a transaction via chrome for the file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8412245/
[17:20] <Elleo> mandel: or do you want the specific headers udm was sent? if so are they logged somewhere by default?
[17:32] <popey> dbarth_: jdstrand latest facebook webapp got automagically bounced by the store... security_policy_groups_webapp (webapp-facebook.json):
[17:32] <popey> found unusual policy groups: accounts, contentexchangesource, push-notification-client
[17:32] <popey> I've overridden this in the past, are we okay continuing to override?
[17:33] <jdstrand> I think I should change accounts now that webapps cn more easily use accounts
[17:34] <jdstrand> popey: can you give me either the click or the full output of click-run-checks?
[17:35] <jdstrand> what is the deal with content_exchange_source? is it normal for a web app to be a content-hub source?
[17:36] <popey> sure
[17:36] <dbarth_> popey: yes, those didn't change
[17:36] <popey> actually i cant
[17:37] <popey> beuno: we have a workflow issue here. store bounced a click (facebook webapp) so now I can't get to the new click version in the store, the url is hidden from me
[17:37] <jdstrand> dbarth_: can you comment on my content_exchange_source question?
[17:38] <dbarth_> jdstrand: it is; it means you can upload photos to facebook
[17:38] <dbarth_> it's been there for a bit now
[17:38] <popey> beuno: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/90/ is the link - i can see the published version 1.0.20 but not 1.0.21
[17:38] <jdstrand> popey, dbarth_: fyi, I adjusted the review tools to not flag accounts there
[17:38] <beuno> pindonga, ^
[17:39] <jdstrand> dbarth_: upload to facebook. shouldn't it just need content_exchange and not content_exchange_source?
[17:39] <pindonga> beuno, popey right
[17:39] <jdstrand> _source should be used if the user is interacting with facebook to do the pushing to somewhere
[17:39] <popey> thanks jdstrand
[17:40] <jdstrand> kenvandine: can you confirm that ^
[17:40] <pindonga> beuno, popey I guess we'll want to display download urls for both the latest approved and the latest uploaded files?
[17:40] <gatox> seb128, can i have a review here? https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-system-settings/display-errors/+merge/235037
[17:40] <popey> pindonga: yeah.
[17:40] <pindonga> popey, ack, will work on that fix now...
[17:40] <popey> thanks
[17:41] <kenvandine> jdstrand, dbarth_: i should just need content_exchange
[17:41] <kenvandine> s/i/it
[17:41] <stgraber> cjwatson: looks like we've got a webops vanguard again so I should have a devirt ppa of my own pretty soon
[17:41] <jdstrand> kenvandine: thanks
[17:42] <dbarth_> jdstrand: well, not the way content hub works afaik: alexabreu can you reply to this one ^^?
[17:43]  * jdstrand encourages kenvandine to listen to alexabreu's explanation
[17:43] <kenvandine> jdstrand, i don't even recall why we have content_exchange_source :)
[17:44] <jdstrand> kenvandine: content_exchange_source is the source of the echange and content_exchange is the target
[17:44] <kenvandine> jdstrand, but why do they need to be different?
[17:45] <kenvandine> from a policy pov
[17:45] <jdstrand> kenvandine: so, the camera would have content_exchange_source if it wanted to be able to share with facebook, which would have content_exchange
[17:45] <alexabreu> kenvandine, jdstrand dbarth_ it shouldn't use source ... only content_Exchange
[17:45] <alexabreu> unless something changed
[17:45] <alexabreu> kenvandine, right?
[17:45] <kenvandine> that makes more sense
[17:45] <kenvandine> yes
[17:46] <jdstrand> kenvandine: I can't recall the specific conversation that supported splitting them. I recall it happened and that I executed it
[17:46] <kenvandine> jdstrand, understand :)
[17:46] <alexabreu> kenvandine, jdstrand dbarth_ I could MR an update, and test if things are still ok w/o the _source
[17:46] <jdstrand> and it's been there for a while now :)
[17:46] <kenvandine> i'm sure i was involved :)
[17:46] <alexabreu> right
[17:47] <jdstrand> kenvandine: most probably
[17:47] <jdstrand> alexabreu: can you point me at the trunk branch so I can see the security policy?
[17:47] <jdstrand> the last one is push-notification-client
[17:47] <dbarth_> for a while yes
[17:47] <dbarth_> i will push a corrected version without the _source
[17:48] <jdstrand> cause that needs discussion
[17:49] <dbarth_> which is used by account-polld
[17:51] <alexabreu> jdstrand, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~webapps-team/webapps-core/trunk/files/head:/webapp-facebook/
[17:52] <jdstrand> dbarth_, alexabreu: why does facebook-webapp need push-notification-client when facebook-webapp-helper exists?
[17:54] <jdstrand> I ask because push-helpers use push-notification-client, and as such, the push-notification-client has an explcit deny to access the Mir clipboard dbus interface
[17:55] <jdstrand> in other words, including that in the webapp-facebook security policy means that the webapp will be denied access to the mir clipboard
[17:56]  * jdstrand notes this is future breakage-- mir hasn't moved the clipboard to a dbus interface yet, but it is coming soon
[17:59] <dbarth_> jdstrand: meanwhile, i have a branch for review: https://code.launchpad.net/~dbarth/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.utopic.add-signon-apparmor/+merge/235685
[18:00] <dbarth_> jdstrand: if i was to drop the policy_group, would the push-client still be able to deliver PNs to our helper ?
[18:01] <jdstrand> dbarth_: that branch has a lot of conflicts
[18:02] <jdstrand> dbarth_: as it was explained to me, webapp-facebook-helper should have it, webapp-facebook should not. they can communicate with each other via some other means. tedg, can you comment? (see scrollback for ~~10 minutes)
[18:03] <jdstrand> dbarth_: also, that may be better reviewed by a member of the release team
[18:04] <jdstrand> though, maybe once the conflicts are all sorted out, I could read it better
[18:05] <popey> beuno: pindonga also, I got a mail saying the facebook app was published, which is a lie, it was rejected.
[18:05] <ogra_> stgraber, hmm, do you knwo if that switch to the PPA was a permanent thing cilon did ? seems we didnt get a build for the last triggered image https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/utopic/ubuntu-touch/ shows the last build failed
[18:05] <ogra_> *colin
[18:08] <stgraber> ogra_: it's a temporary override given on the command line, so it shouldn't
[18:08] <ogra_> stgraber, well, did you build one or two images ?
[18:08] <jdstrand> dbarth_: maybe the easiest thing is install the click, adjust /var/lib/apparmor/clicks/..._webapp-facebook_....json to remove the policy group (be careful to remove the comma on the previous line!), run sudo aa-clickhook -f, and see if it works
[18:08] <stgraber> ogra_: two so far, third is on its way
[18:08] <ogra_> hmm
[18:08] <ogra_> iso tracker also says re-building
[18:08] <stgraber> well, they all failed obviously
[18:09] <ogra_> canceling that doesnt work either it seems
[18:09]  * ogra_ resorts to nusakan then
[18:10] <ogra_> oh, wow
[18:10] <ogra_> seems i got a stale lockfile there
[18:10] <ogra_> sigh
[18:11] <ogra_> rsalveti, ^^ doesnt look like we can get a new image quickly or easily :(
[18:13] <pindonga> popey, that's odd.. will check
[18:15] <cjwatson> stgraber: ok, the package doesn't seem to be in your PPA any more so I assume that's being sorted
[18:15] <cjwatson> ogra_: it was not permanent
[18:15] <ogra_> cjwatson, ok ... well, it seems they share a lock file or some such
[18:16] <cjwatson> ogra_: yes, I expect so
[18:16] <cjwatson> ogra_: there's an image build running from a shell owned by stgraber, started eight minutes ago, which is presumably why your build attempt failed
[18:16] <ogra_> for-project just slapped me in the face with a traceback :)
[18:16] <ogra_> cjwatson, right, but yours did too ...
[18:17] <cjwatson> ogra_: can't fix this now, just wait for stgraber's build to finish
[18:17] <ogra_> ok
[18:18] <dbarth_> jdstrand: this one is better: https://code.launchpad.net/~dbarth/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.utopic.add-signon-apparmor/+merge/235693
[18:23] <jdstrand> dbarth_: approved and merged
[18:24] <popey> pindonga: want me to forward the mail to you or anything?
[18:25] <pindonga> nah, I'll check the whole flow in local/staging
[18:25] <pindonga> the app *is* published, but the upload was rejected
[18:25] <dbarth_> jdstrand: thank you
[18:25] <pindonga> with that I can figure out the rest
[18:25] <pindonga> :)
[18:26] <pindonga> popey, so, as you can see automatic rejects on already published apps are now working :) (for the demo)
[18:26] <pindonga> but a few quirks still need to be ironed out
[18:26] <popey> lolz
[18:26] <dbarth_> jdstrand: sorry i have missed the last 10 minutes; did tedg confirm it was fine to remove the other policy_group for the webapp?
[18:26] <jdstrand> dbarth_: he did not
[18:26] <jdstrand> dbarth_: though I said this:
[18:27] <jdstrand> 13:08 < jdstrand> dbarth_: maybe the easiest thing is install the click, adjust /var/lib/apparmor/clicks/..._webapp-facebook_....json to remove the policy group (be careful to remove the comma on the previous line!), run sudo aa-clickhook -f, and see if it works
[18:27] <jdstrand> ie, adjust the webapp security policy (not the helper policy) and see how it goes
[18:28] <dbarth_> jdstrand: right, agreed
[18:28] <dbarth_> and yes, i won't touch the helper policy, which is the one now obviously requiring the permission
[18:29] <dbarth_> sorry if that takes a bit to settle down
[18:50] <stgraber> ogra_: making some progress, it failed because of an unexpected change to gshadow, suspecting a false positive though
[19:12] <tedg> jdstrand, dbarth_, back
[19:12] <tedg> So I'm not sure what push helper gives access to.
[19:12] <tedg> The helper should, generally have the same permissions as the app modulo it shouldn't have networking.
[19:12] <tedg> So it should be able to set and clear notifications the same as the app.
[19:13] <tedg> Chipaca would probably know more of the history though.
[19:13] <tedg> I imagine that's only for the clear dbus command today, and the app should be able to do that as well.
[19:14] <dbarth_> right now the helper has only the push notification permission
[19:14] <dbarth_> so i guess that's fine
[19:14] <dbarth_> i was lacking proper network access this hour, but will test in a bit
[19:37] <stgraber> ogra_: I'll be running another test build in about 20min
[19:37] <hacker> hi guys, i just updated today my ubuntu touch proposed-dev channel and my phone isn't booting anymore
[19:37] <stgraber> (which will fail too, but with debugging this time around so I can know what was added to /etc/gshadow during image build)
[19:38] <stgraber> (the hooks now print diffs on stderr so that'll make it much simpler to figure out what happened)
[19:38] <hacker> it stuck while booting
[19:38] <hacker> I have a Nexus 4
[19:39] <hacker> after booting I get a black screen and then nothing
[19:40] <hacker> it gives a blink every few seconds
[19:43] <hacker> when I hook it to my Ubuntu 14.04, I receive this message: Unable to open MTP device '[usb:003,027]'
[19:43] <hacker> nothing seems to work
[19:43] <Hendrik_> I use a dualboot on my mako device....i updated to version 252 but im not able to boot anymore...can somebody help me?
[19:44] <hacker> seems i have the same problem as Hendrik_
[19:44] <hacker> Could anyone help?
[19:45] <Hendrik_> Do you also use dualboot?
[19:45] <Hendrik_> Everything worked fine until Version 252
[19:52] <davmor2> Hendrik_, hacker: plug your phone into a pc, run ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel-propose --revision=251, if that fails put it into the bootloader and then flasf with the previous command and add --bootstrap
[19:52] <davmor2> Hendrik_, hacker: please note bootstrap will wipe everthing
[19:55] <Hendrik_> Is there an official Description of this Problem? is this a problem just with dualboot?
[20:01] <Hendrik_> davmor, thanks but this is not really a solution....also i use a dualboot so wiping everything and flashing an older version would be not really good :)
[20:01] <davmor2> Hendrik_: ah in that case on daul boot just revert to the image before or devel rather than devel-proposed.  It looks like some packages were no longer required so were removed unfortunately there was a dep that got removed that was required.
[20:04] <stgraber> ogra_: ok, so the failure is currently caused by phablet getting added to gshadow but not to group or to anything else, doesn't make a lot of sense to me...
[20:05] <stgraber> ogra_: nevermind, that's because the adduser hook is wrong, I'll fix that, that should do the trick
[20:07] <Hendrik_> so there is no official statement?
[20:26] <ogra_> stgraber, phablet needs to be in extrausers only
[20:27] <ogra_> not in any of the system files
[20:27] <charles> ToyKeeper, ping
[20:27] <charles> ToyKeeper, I'm not able to reproduce the bug you were seeing in https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-location/+bug/1248973
[20:28] <stgraber> ogra_: right, which is the problem, currently it's not
[20:28] <stgraber> ogra_: your extrausers trick is incomplete, phablet was still ending up in /etc/gshadow triggering the test I've got in my new code
[20:28] <ogra_> nsswitch not set up properly ?
[20:29] <stgraber> I've now fixed your hook so that it also handles gshadow which should fix the failure
[20:29] <ogra_> mterry, ^^
[20:30]  * ogra_ must admit he never noticed pahblet in gshadow
[20:30] <mterry> stgraber, ogra_: ah yes, me neither.  Thanks, stgraber
[20:30] <stgraber> hopefully this will be the last test image and I can upload those packages to the archive proper in a bit
[20:30] <ogra_> stgraber, was inbetween an utopic image built ?
[20:31] <stgraber> ogra_: I guess, it didn't complete about any existing lock anyway
[20:31] <ogra_> this is slighly urgent since people out there currenly get an unbootable one
[20:31] <stgraber> *complain
[20:33] <charles> davmor2, ToyKeeper: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-location/+bug/1248973/comments/11
[20:35] <ogra_> charles, i think thats long gone
[20:37] <ToyKeeper> charles: What ogra_ said.  I think that was re-fixed again quite a while ago.
[20:38] <charles> ogra_, ToyKeeper, I think so too. Just wanted to get a sanity check before closing the ticket
[20:38] <charles> ogra_, ToyKeeper, thanks
[20:38] <ToyKeeper> charles: Sorry, I got moved from image testing to silo testing so I haven't had much chance to revisit and update old bugs.
[20:55] <stgraber> ogra_: looks like the build succeeded (well, is about to)
[20:55] <ogra_> stgraber, cool ... i start to get pinged by people :)
[20:56] <Chipaca> tedg: jdstrand: what's going on?
[20:56] <ogra_> (CI fails and stuff, we need the new image soon)
[20:57] <hacker> davmor2: it worked thanks a lot!
[20:59] <Chipaca> tedg: jdstrand: (I saw tedg's mention above, but can't find the context he's talking in)
[21:02] <tedg> Chipaca, dbarth was looking at different apparmor permissions for FB.
[21:02] <Chipaca> tedg: the webapp?
[21:03] <tedg> Chipaca, Seems that there is a different one for the push-helper and he was trying to figure out the differences.
[21:03] <Chipaca> ah. push helper should have just the push helper one, nothing else (anything else will fail validation afaik)
[21:07] <ahayzen> tedg, ping
[21:20] <stgraber> ogra_: ok, I'm done with my tests, I'll upload the two packages to the archive proper now
[21:20] <ogra_> perfect
[21:21] <ogra_> i'll run a build then
[21:21]  * ogra_ guesses the isotracker is still stuck
[21:21] <tedg> ahayzen, Howdy
[21:22] <ogra_> yeah, it is ...
[21:22]  * ogra_ starts a manual build
[21:22] <ahayzen> tedg, Hi, we've been seeing failures in music-app mocking since #244 and have been trying to figure out what has broken it. ogra_ just noticed that that was when cgroups was reenabled, is it possible that this has broken our CI?
[21:22] <ahayzen> tedg, bug 1370800 is tracking it
[21:24] <stgraber> ogra_: uploaded. You'll probably want to copy those over to rtm at some point.
[21:24] <tedg> ahayzen, Seems unlikely, but how are you adjusting which music library to use?
[21:24] <ogra_> stgraber, right, we need to clearify that first ... rtm is more versions behind
[21:24] <ahayzen> tedg, we patch the mediascanner2 database
[21:25] <ahayzen> tedg, its pretty hacky and needs to be improved...however *something* broke it in 244 and we didn't change or ms2 or autopilot so we have been tryig to figure out what
[21:25] <ogra_> tedg, sorry, your change was sticking out in the changelog :)  http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/244.changes
[21:26] <tedg> Heh, yeah.
[21:26] <ogra_> though looking again it could also be thumbnailer
[21:26] <tedg> ahayzen, I can't think of a way that the cgroups merge would effect that, as it should just be the mediascanner dbus interface.
[21:26] <ahayzen> tedg, and the other thing is that it works on the desktop (utopic) this issue is only on device
[21:27] <tedg> ahayzen, Are you running under UAL on the desktop?
[21:27] <ahayzen> erm.... balloons does autopilot3 run <tests> use UAL on desktop?
[21:27] <balloons> ahayzen, nope
[21:27] <balloons> it's specific to click and the phone
[21:28] <ahayzen> hmm ok
[21:28] <tedg> Hmm, not really.
[21:28] <tedg> So it's using xdg-open or something like that?
[21:28] <balloons> on the desktop? I mean sure we could use ubuntu-app-launch, but you are probably launching with qmlscene directly
[21:29] <balloons> either local or if installed, a binary perhaps, direct launch
[21:30] <tedg> balloons, Is there a way to force it to try?
[21:30] <tedg> ahayzen, One thing you could try is to grab a 243 image and then upgrade UAL and see if that breaks it?
[21:30] <ahayzen> tedg, sounds like a plan
[21:32] <ahayzen> tedg, thanks i'll try that tonight/tomorrow
[21:32] <tedg> ahayzen, Cool, hope it's not UAL :-)
[21:32] <balloons> tedg, http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-14.10/python/autopilot/api/autopilot.testcase.html is what you have available. So ahayzen I imagine you could try using launch_upstart_application on the desktop instead of launch_test_application
[21:32] <ahayzen> tedg, :)
[21:33] <ahayzen> balloons, ah i see...i'll try it see what explodes
[21:35] <balloons> tedg, I know you and elopio had some discussions about ual in regards to reminders
[21:36] <sashko1974> Hey! can i install ubuntu touch on a samsung galaxy s2 and Phone and sms works?
[21:36] <balloons> do you know who worked on the unsigned click support?
[21:38] <balloons> ahh, I see it was mvo
[21:52] <mhall119> chrisccoulson: hey, is there a way to get the browser's cut/copy/paste as well as "copy image"/"save image" popovers from the Ubuntu.Web component?
[22:02] <ahayzen> balloons, i think it works with launch_upstart_application ... but i'll try flashing back to 243 and then updating manually tomorrow
[22:14] <ahoneybun> anyone know how get set APN settings
[22:30] <bfiller> tedg: ping
[22:34] <ahoneybun> hey mhall119
[22:36] <mhall119> hey ahoneybun
[22:37] <ahoneybun> do you have tmobile>
[22:42] <ahoneybun> do you have tmobile mhall119


[12:39] <flint_> highvoltage, Good morning!
[12:40] <flint_> Meeting Times of the last half dozen edubuntu IRC meetings:09/18/2009 17:00 UTC, 09/25/2009 17:00 UTC, 10/02/2009 17:00 UTC, 10/09/2009 17:00 UTC, 10/16/2009 17:00 UTC,
[12:40] <flint_> Then the meeting appears to have switched to 11/12/2009 15:00 UTC.
[12:41] <flint_> From the standard Friday to a Thursday.
[12:41] <flint_> At this time there are no Edubuntu meetings scheduled on the fridge (http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar)
[12:42] <flint_> Are all these assertions accurate?
[12:43] <highvoltage> morning flint_!
[12:44] <flint_> highvoltage, How are things in sunny South Africa Johnathan?
[12:45] <highvoltage> flint_: the next one is on Nov 25: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Meetings/Agenda
[12:45] <highvoltage> I should've added it to the fridge... will do so now
[12:45] <highvoltage> flint_: nice and sunny (for a change)... summer seems to have come late this year :)
[12:46] <flint_> highvoltage, the mornings here in Vermont are cold but the days are crisp and clear.  No snow yet :^(...
[12:48] <highvoltage> flint_: added to the fridge, I'll be more diligent doing that from now on
[12:50] <flint_> highvoltage, not to worry, I am trying to synchronize... :^)
[12:51] <highvoltage> flint_: I'm going to Quebec in probably a little bit more than a month from now, will be the first time that I actually experience snow :)
[12:52] <flint_> highvoltage, Excellent!   Where will you be in Quebec? I might be able to come up.
[12:53] <highvoltage> flint_: Sherbrooke, it's close to Montreal
[12:56] <flint_> highvoltage, I know Sherbrooke well.  It is a very cool University town.  They have excellent Morrocan food shops in the old part of the city... Keep me informed via email.
[12:56] <flint_> highvoltage, Is your trip Ubuntu related?
[12:59] <highvoltage> flint_: yep, I work almost full time for revolution linux now which is based there
[13:05] <flint_> highvoltage, I know and like Revolution Linux, and worked with Benoit St-Andre (who I constantly called disparaging names :^) at NECC in DC over the summer.
[13:06] <highvoltage> flint_: cool :)
[13:07] <flint_> They set up a 40 node LTSP off of one server that actually ran video on each station.  Very Cool.  I have been meaning to continue to harass him...  This may be an opportunity.
[13:10] <flint_> I was the wire monkey for this... it went very well...
[13:44] <highvoltage> heh
[14:57] <sbalneav> Morning all
[16:14] <highvoltage> morning sbalneav!
[16:16] <mhall119|work> morning
[16:18] <highvoltage> morning mhall119|work


[07:05] <zinigor> Hello, people! Sorry to repeat my message, but maybe someone in this room right now knows something about the issue.
[07:05] <zinigor> Can someone please take a look at a bug I have submitted yesterday and tell me if there is a duplicate with an available workaround somewhere?
[07:05] <zinigor> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1236996
[08:05] <tjaalton> meh, too hasty
[08:06] <tjaalton> tseliot: ^ hybrid fail, it's not enabling the hybrid stuff
[08:08] <tjaalton> or nvidia got installed manually
[08:08] <tjaalton> in which case nvidia-prime isn't installed
[08:10] <tjaalton> maybe the nvidia driver should just depend on -prime, and the logic moved there instead of the driver manager
[08:55] <tseliot> tjaalton: if it were a hybrid failure you wouldn't even see the login screen ;)
[09:00] <tseliot> also, users should not install nvidia-prime unless they have hybrid graphics
[09:01] <tjaalton> ..because it has no logic to detect if it's a hybrid system or not
[09:01] <tjaalton> tseliot: he's running intel with nvidia installed, login screen works fine it seems
[09:02] <tseliot> tjaalton: yes, he's probably using intel with nvidia's GL libraries
[09:02] <tseliot> and libglx
[09:03] <tjaalton> anyway, I think apt-get way should be supported
[09:04] <tjaalton> so the logic should be moved to nvidia-prime/fglrx-pxpress
[09:04] <tjaalton> or done so that those can use the tooling from jockey or whatever
[09:04] <tjaalton> but not apply any changes unless postinst detects it's a hybrid system
[09:05] <tjaalton> since now anyone on non-hybrid can break their system by installing either, as stupid as that would be
[09:05] <tseliot> tjaalton: in 12.04.3 Jockey does the right thing without the user noticing. In 12.04.4 things are going to be too complex to move the detection logic to nvidia-prime
[09:05] <tjaalton> how so?
[09:06] <tseliot> tjaalton: because there will be more programs running on log in and on log out to enable switching between cards
[09:06] <tjaalton> how does that change initial setup?
[09:08] <tseliot> I could try it on a system without hybrid graphics. Maybe it already works but it's untested
[09:08] <tseliot> still nvidia-prime will depend on bbswitch
[09:08] <tseliot> and I don't think you want bbswitch on a single card system
[09:09] <tseliot> or you don't want something that will mess with your xorg.conf by default
[09:09] <tjaalton> exactly my point, it should not touch the config unless the system is detected as hybrid, by prime/pxpress
[09:10] <tseliot> and my point is: if you go through the hassle of installing the drivers manually you can also install an additional package manually
[09:10] <tjaalton> too technical for most users
[09:13] <tseliot> maybe I can play more with this in saucy + 1 as soon as I'm done with this hybrid switching work
[09:13] <tjaalton> isn't it too late then ;)
[09:13] <tseliot> right now I would just break things
[09:13] <tjaalton> didn't know saucy had bumblebee
[09:13] <tseliot> it doesn't have bumblebee
[09:13] <tjaalton> sure does
[09:13] <tseliot> in main???
[09:14] <tjaalton> no
[09:14] <tseliot> then nvidia can't depend on it
[09:14] <tjaalton> bbswitch-dkms/-source
[09:14] <tjaalton> too
[09:14] <tseliot> and my work will land only in 12.04.4 anyway, at least for now.
[09:15] <tjaalton> what happens on upgrades?
[09:15] <tjaalton> there has to be an upgrade path
[09:16] <tjaalton> sorry, but these questions will come up later anyway :)
[09:17] <tseliot> I'm not sure. My work will be available in December as I'm still working on it
[09:17] <tjaalton> the folks planning the oem commitments don't know how the distro works :/
[09:18] <tseliot> we will have a clean upgrade from 12.04.4 to 14.04 for sure. I'm not sure about 12.04.4 -> 13.10 though
[09:18] <tseliot> it would take an SRU to forward port my work to 13.10 but it will be painful
[09:19] <tjaalton> ->14.04 should be enough
[09:19] <tseliot> (promoting bbswitch to main on an already released system doesn't sound easy)
[09:20] <tseliot> ok
[09:20] <tseliot> I've just found out that nvidia-prime has never been moved to main...
[09:20] <tjaalton> all the backport stacks are added post-release, and straight to main, so it's not unheard of
[09:20] <tjaalton> hehe
[09:21] <tseliot> ok, it will be a little more work
[09:21] <tjaalton> wonder why bbswitch is a dkms package atm
[09:22] <tseliot> but as soon as I'm done I'll test my work on single card systems.