[03:32] <AndrewB> balthazarguy: then try    sudo sh ./nvidia.run
[03:33] <Scunizi> !nvidia
[03:33] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:33] <balthazarguy>  http://pastebin.ca/968526 the exact stuff I typed.
[03:33] <jrib> deniz__: format -> Paragraph
[03:33] <bazhang> vasyl: it does it all
[03:33] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> sudo apt-get update ?
[03:33] <deniz__> jrib, thx
[03:33] <vasyl> bazhang: cool thanks :D
[03:34] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Okay, done.
[03:34] <DariusTheoNoir> read/write ntfs? ... ntfs-3g
[03:34] <DariusTheoNoir> that's the tool
[03:34] <DariusTheoNoir> works for me
[03:34] <DariusTheoNoir> never had problems
[03:34] <carlzenox> anyone know a good website scanner?
[03:34] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: It is asking for my CD now.
[03:34] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Can't I get it from the internet?
[03:34] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> put it in, or configure your apt source files...
[03:34] <Gilou> read docs
[03:34] <Scunizi> carlzenox, you mean for seo data?
[03:35] <balthazarguy> Scu: the restricted driver manager isn't working, says i have to have nvidia-glx-new installed.
[03:35] <rycole> does anyone know why apache modules are named modname.load, as opposed to the default modname.so /
[03:35] <Gilou> you're being... tiring :)
[03:35] <rycole> on ubuntu.
[03:35] <DariusTheoNoir> uh oh...someones installing glx....whew!
[03:35] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, install it from synaptic.. system/administration/synaptic
[03:35] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Okay, nevermind, I found my CD.
[03:35] <code_kill> i got a issue with vnc and router. can somone help me out real quick?
[03:35] <Gilou> rycole> these are only configuration file
[03:35] <Gilou> asking to load the .so modules
[03:36] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Okay, it seems to have worked?
[03:36] <Scunizi> code_kill, you mean getting into a pc on your lan from outside? some ISP's block the standard ports.. but not usually..
[03:36] <Gilou> I wouldn't know?
[03:36] <rycole> oh, so where do the .so modules reside ?
[03:36] <balthazarguy> Scun: How do I tell it where to search for my file then?
[03:36] <Gilou> rycole> read the content of the .load file
[03:36] <Gilou> it will lead you to the truth
[03:36] <genii> code_kill: ports 5800 or 5801 and 5900 or 5901 normally
[03:36] <rycole> ah, haha.
[03:36] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, once in synaptic.. hit the search button and type in nvidia
[03:36] <nickrud> balthazarguy a rule of thumb:  if something in ubuntu says <something> needs to be installed,   system->admin->synaptic  , ctl-f (find)  and search for <something>
[03:36] <Kickboy> Hey all! I've been running the Hardy beta for a couple weeks now, and everything has been pretty smooth so far. Until I updated my packages a few days ago: Now compiz-fusion won't work, and can't find any debug information that could tell me why. When I try to enable "Extra" effects in "Appearance" I get the message "Desktop effects could not be enabled". Kinda stuck as to what to do from here. Anybody got suggestions?
[03:36] <code_kill> well, it's notwhat ose one private ip at a time.?, where i allow exceptions, i can only chois my ip blocked, but under applications
[03:37] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Yes! "make" works now!
[03:37] <balthazarguy> Nick: Synaptic doesn't have it.
[03:37] <Scunizi> Kickboy, join #ubuntu+1
[03:37] <balthazarguy> Otherwise I would have been done long ago :P
[03:37] <AndrewB> !hardy > Kickboy (please see pm)
[03:37] <nickrud> balthazarguy doesn't have nvidia-glx-new?
[03:37] <DariusTheoNoir> kickboy...compiz worked for gutsy?
[03:37] <Synclair> hey there
[03:37] <code_kill> when i try to add two like.....101 and 107, it doesnt let me due to having to input two seperate times tyhe vnc application.
[03:37] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, it does
[03:37] <code_kill> was that clear?
[03:37] <Kickboy> ah ok, thanks Scunizi
[03:37] <nickrud> !gutsysources | balthazarguy (do this, then check again)
[03:37] <ubotu> balthazarguy (do this, then check again): gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[03:37] <Synclair> does anybody have a Creative Zen V
[03:37] <Synclair> ?
[03:37] <Kickboy> DariusTheoNoir: Yes it did
[03:38] <DariusTheoNoir> ah...bug it
[03:38] <Kickboy> DariusTheoNoir: and it worked on hardy a couple days ago
[03:38] <code_kill> basically, i can get it to work from outside my network, but only can specify one host at a time.
[03:38] <solexious> [Q] Hi all, im looking for a ubuntu equivelent of netstumbler. I need to audit wifi signals, how many, what channels, how strong etc, i dont need to use it for gaining acsess to networks, just looking. Any ideas?
[03:38] <code_kill> so if i want to chack all my machines, i have to coinfigure the routers ip forward everytime
[03:38] <DariusTheoNoir> I guess that's why its still beta
[03:38] <Synclair> I need to use my Creative Zen V
[03:38] <Synclair> can somebody help me?
[03:38] <cocox_> Hi there, do you know where could i find the file where keyboard shortcuts are stored because i would like to make an script for automatic edit them...
[03:38] <nickrud> !components | balthazarguy The first thing you need to learn about ubuntu is how software packages are organized and available. These links will give you a good overview.
[03:38] <ubotu> balthazarguy The first thing you need to learn about ubuntu is how software packages are organized and available. These links will give you a good overview.: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[03:38] <Synclair> I managed to install gonmad2, libmtp and libnjb
[03:38] <Synclair> but it won't recognize my device
[03:39] <Synclair> and if I do lsusb it appears
[03:39] <Scunizi> code_kill, for several machines you'll need to set different ports for each one.
[03:39] <DariusTheoNoir> yeah, don't compile you own stuff if you got better alternatives in the package repo
[03:39] <code_kill> i thought vnc had to use 5900?
[03:39] <balthazarguy> Ok lemme try again..
[03:39] <Scunizi> code_kill, nope that's just the default
[03:39] <PiousMinion> 5900+n where n = the screen number.
[03:39] <code_kill> but also, i have to specify everytime the application, so i can only put vnc in once.
[03:40] <kindofabuzz> solexious: Kismet
[03:40] <solexious> kindofbuzz: thank you :)
[03:40] <code_kill> when i try a second forward with different address, it wont let me call another forward using same servioce?
[03:40] <Scunizi> PiousMinion, he's trying to access several different machines on his lan from outside..
[03:40] <genii> PiousMinion: Yes, the xterm :x + 5800 or 5900
[03:40] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Okay, everything works now except "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[03:40] <code_kill> yep
[03:40] <Gilou> that's a problem lol :)
[03:40] <code_kill> scunizi
[03:41] <nickrud> cocox_ they're kinda scattered ...
[03:41] <Scunizi> code_kill, maybe not at the same time. but I never tried multiple instances of vnc with different port numbers.
[03:41] <code_kill> i have a linksys
[03:41] <balthazarguy> Chaos: trying to get Ndiswrapper to work?
[03:41] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory
[03:41] <ChaosTheory> Balthazarguy: Yes.
[03:41] <balthazarguy> Chaos: I had the same trouble, here is what you need.
[03:41] <balthazarguy> Chaos: Download Ndisgtk
[03:41] <balthazarguy> And install that.
[03:41] <code_kill> for example   (service) - (port) - address
[03:41] <balthazarguy> Then try and use Ndiswrapper
[03:41] <code_kill> i cant do this....
[03:41] <Scunizi> code_kill, not sure what you mean..
[03:41] <code_kill> vnc 5900 <IP_ADDRESS> and
[03:42] <code_kill> vnc 5900 <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:42] <code_kill> at the same time
[03:42] <RPClancy_> I am a new linux user, Which Distro would be best for me?
[03:42] <code_kill> only one forward rule with vnc at a time.  it's fucking nnoying
[03:42] <code_kill> ubuntu
[03:42] <kindofabuzz> RPClancy_: Ubuntu!
[03:42] <code_kill> or a redhat
[03:42] <jrib> RPClancy_: ubuntu is a great distro for beginners, but of course you are asking in #ubuntu
[03:42] <kindofabuzz> no redhat
[03:42] <code_kill> but i sujjest learning some frebsd
[03:42] <Scunizi> code_kill, the machine accepting the connection from outside has to have a unique port.. then in the router you have to build a port forwarding sceme for each meachine.
[03:42] <nickrud> !language | code_kill
[03:42] <ubotu> code_kill: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:42] <ChaosTheory> balthazarguy: I think I'm almost finished with the installation. . .
[03:43] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> you didn't do "sudo make install"
[03:43] <Gilou> probably
[03:43] <kindofabuzz> you want easiest, get a debain, like ubuntu
[03:43] <ChaosTheory> balthazar: All that needs to work is "modprobe ndiswrapper."
[03:43] <balthazarguy> Chaos: Installation of..?
[03:43] <code_kill> oh sorry
[03:43] <nickrud> code_kill and please, less of the enters, it scrolls the channel overmuch
[03:43] <Scunizi> !who | code_kill
[03:43] <ubotu> code_kill: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[03:43] <cocox_> nickrud, ooh i though there was a file to modify
[03:43] <code_kill> i apologize
[03:43] <code_kill> sorry
[03:43] <RPClancy_> Ok, well, im in Ubuntu right now, and I don't like it.
[03:43] <Khajavi> how can I install codeblock?  dpkg -i libcodeblocks0_8.02-0ubuntu1_i386.deb >>  libcodeblocks0 depends on libwxgtk2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7);
[03:43] <genii> code_kill: If you have 2 internal machines accepting on 5900 then map 5901 to second machines 5900 from the router side
[03:43] <code_kill> !who | codekill ?
[03:43] <ubotu> codekill ?: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[03:43] <nickrud> cocox_ there's ways to do it, depending on what you intend to alter
[03:43] <[_`]mewok> ubotu : Don't repeat unneccesary messages.
[03:43] <balthazarguy> !!!! Nvidia installed!!
[03:43] <Scunizi> code_kill, works good :)
[03:43] <balthazarguy> Thanks guys :D
[03:43] <ChaosTheory> GIlou: Oops. =d
[03:44] <RPClancy_> Also, an important note, is that Im going to have to do some customizing to get everything on this computer working properly, so i want one that's easy to get support for
[03:44] <balthazarguy> Brb, gonna restart.
[03:44] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, two days of searching and viola!  welcome
[03:44] <Gilou> RPClancy_> call Cannonical :p
[03:44] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Yes! It works!
[03:44] <PiousMinion> My X session is dying when I login and I get a gui message saying the session lasted less than 10 seconds. I see a lot of "I830 Vblank Pipe Setup Failed 0".  My Xorg log can be found at http://pastebin.ca/968531 if anyone is kind enough to take a look for me.
[03:44] <Synclair> can someone help me?
[03:44] <balthazarguy> Scun: No, two days was just to get the internet up lolz, I only been at the Nvidia for a few hours.
[03:44] <code_kill> see i can set seperate ports.. but when i have to choose for each compuet vnc service....it says, "application already in use..choose another"  or somthing
[03:44] <justjaden> I'm getting an error when I start up. "Gnome-Daemon-Settings" error. anyone know how to fix this problem?
[03:44] <code_kill> but let me try out somthing you just made me think about
[03:44] <code_kill> brb
[03:44] <balthazarguy> Brb, restarting.
[03:45] <code_kill> and thanks greatly for your help. one second
[03:45] <DariusTheoNoir> justjaden...I got that error a few times
[03:45] <justjaden> what did you do?
[03:45] <DariusTheoNoir> a reboot and it didn't occur again
[03:45] <DariusTheoNoir> seemed intermittent
[03:45] <code_kill> hey!
[03:45] <code_kill> thanks
[03:45] <code_kill> lol
[03:46] <Scunizi> code_kill, working now? what did you do?
[03:46] <code_kill> i can't beleive i over looked the obvious
[03:46] <justjaden> it's happening every time for me. Then trying to open a program, it says  "your system may be in an unstable state, and may need to be rebooted"
[03:46] <code_kill> two of same ports.  lol
[03:46] <code_kill> thanks alot!
[03:46] <Scunizi> sure
[03:46] <DariusTheoNoir> ah...which version are you running?
[03:46] <code_kill> This is by far the most helping and kind chat i have been in in a long time.
[03:46] <code_kill> :)
[03:46] <bazhang> Synclair: you need to ask a question first
[03:46] <Synclair> in fact, I deed
[03:46] <Synclair> did
[03:47] <Synclair> the thing is that I own a Creative Zen V
[03:47] <DariusTheoNoir> dapper, feisty, gutsy, heron, etc
[03:47] <Synclair> and I cannot make it work
[03:47] <kambei> If I wanted to issue a command upon return from "suspended" state, where would I want to put it?
[03:47] <wil> I installed something that has its files in /var/www I need to copy some files to there but I do not have the option to paste and I can not edit permissions... how do I use the GUI to copy files here? is there any way to run the GUI with sudo?
[03:47] <Scunizi> code_kill, glad to hear it.. I'll send you my bill to donate to one of my favorite charities :)
[03:47] <code_kill> yea, i use win, and redhat, but never used a debian - (ubuntu) beofre.  i'm liking it alot
[03:47] <Synclair> although I isntalled gnomad2, libmtp and libnjb
[03:47] <Synclair> I have ubuntu dapper
[03:47] <RPClancy_> Im a complete Linux noob. I am trying to get a linux install working on my Toshiba Satellite A205-S5800. Which distro do you guys reccomend, keepign in mind that I have had trouble getting wireless card and video card to work in Mandriva and Ubuntu already.
[03:47] <code_kill> it installed on my notebook very smooth, and found all drivers very smooth
[03:47] <code_kill> good things to say for ubuntu
[03:47] <Scunizi> wil, yes.. but you have to be very careful.. sudo nautilus
[03:47] <Synclair> wil, go ahead open a terminal and type sudo natilus
[03:47] <Synclair> damin
[03:47] <Scunizi> wil.. that is gksudo nautilus
[03:47] <AndrewB> RPClancy_: people have and will suggest ubuntu.
[03:47] <nickrud> wil you can use  gksudo nautilus , but it's a good idea to learn the commands
[03:48] <DariusTheoNoir> RPC - tried SUSE?
[03:48] <Khajavi> how can I install codeblock? it occur a error: dpkg -i libcodeblocks0_8.02-0ubuntu1_i386.deb >>  libcodeblocks0 depends on libwxgtk2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7);
[03:48] <RPClancy_> I have not, what is it?
[03:48] <wil> lol, so many people at once, so I wont target a name... what is the diffrence between sudo and gksudo?
[03:48] <DariusTheoNoir> gksudo is for gui
[03:48] <genii> !gksudo
[03:48] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[03:48] <Scunizi> wil, when running a graphical program as root use gksudo
[03:48] <DariusTheoNoir> so that you can run a nautilus browser as root
[03:48] <code_kill> i never knew that. lol
[03:48] <code_kill> interesting
[03:48] <nickrud> !offtopic | DariusTheoNoir RPClancy_ this isn't the place to discuss relative merits of distos, #ubuntu-offtopic is available
[03:48] <ubotu> DariusTheoNoir RPClancy_ this isn't the place to discuss relative merits of distos, #ubuntu-offtopic is available: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:48] <code_kill> i always just stayed in command
[03:48] <DariusTheoNoir> instead of CLI
[03:48] <wil> thanks
[03:48] <Co_sby> hi
[03:49] <Khajavi> how can I install codeblock? it occur a error: dpkg -i libcodeblocks0_8.02-0ubuntu1_i386.deb >>  libcodeblocks0 depends on libwxgtk2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7);
[03:49] <RPClancy_> ....
[03:49] <nickrud> wil gksudo sets up the environment so you can safely use a gui app, sudo doesn't, it's meant for the command line
[03:49] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616952 only semi-useful thing I could find Synclair
[03:49] <code_kill> also. how do i get into iptables in ubuntu?
[03:49] <code_kill> in the gui also if possible?
[03:49] <AndrewB> Khajavi: try sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.4-dev
[03:49] <wil> Scunizi, Synclair, nickrud, thanks very much, its all working!
[03:49] <nickrud> code_kill install   firestarter
[03:50] <balthazarguy> Ok... Nvidia drivers working now.. but now how do I get a higher screen rosolution.. it still won't let me choose other than the defualt one..
[03:50] <code_kill> you guys are awsome. so many chats these days are just junk.  but i will for sure come back to this one.
[03:50] <code_kill> firestarter?
[03:50] <Synclair> anyone knows about libmtp and libnjb?
[03:50] <owen1> Scunizi: r u there?
[03:50] <nickrud> code_kill it's a gui iptables configurator
[03:50] <PiousMinion> I must be lagged.
[03:50] <code_kill> is it in the package manager?  or download from site?
[03:50] <Scunizi> owen1, yep
[03:50] <PiousMinion> nickrud: I use "sudo sux" to run gui apps as root.
[03:50] <Khajavi> AndrewB: ok
[03:50] <code_kill> nice.
[03:50] <code_kill> i see
[03:51] <justjaden> where can you manually open the Gnome-Settings-Daemon?
[03:51] <jrib> Synclair: you need to be more specific about what you want to do
[03:51] <bazhang> code_kill: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[03:51] <owen1> Scunizi: I tried the Krita and this is what I think...
[03:51] <nickrud> !gksudo | PiousMinion (not a good idea)
[03:51] <ubotu> PiousMinion (not a good idea): If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[03:51] <balthazarguy> andrew: Do you know how I can get it to let me get a higher screen resolution now?
[03:51] <jjt001> anyone here know of jeff waugh?
[03:51] <Synclair> I need to install my creative zen v
[03:51] <jjt001> ~~?
[03:51] <AndrewB> balthazarguy: no idea, you will need to check your display settings for that.
[03:51] <nickrud> jjt001 the garnome creator? heard of him, vaguely
[03:51] <bazhang> jjt001: how does that relate to /topic here?
[03:51] <jjt001> nickrud: yeah
[03:52] <nickrud> jjt001 but see bazhang he's right
[03:52] <jjt001> bazhang: i'm trying to get unbanned from #gnome
[03:52] <balthazarguy> I go to the resolution manager.. it only lets me use the default settings..
[03:52] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-edf61bdea0fd68c38cd57e42671fbcc8afcf1647
[03:52] <balthazarguy> Kk thanks.
[03:52] <owen1> Scunizi: functionality is similar to paint.net but the user experience is very complex.  for example, after entering in text, it creates new layer.  It also isnt easy to change fonts and sizes.  I also am having a hard time moving the text once it has been entered.
[03:52] <jjt001> nikrud: he banned for making some constructive criticism about his recent behaviour
[03:52] <nickrud> jjt001 he doesn't pass through here much at all (haven't seen him in years)
[03:52] <balthazarguy> Actually, it's at a lower screen resolution now than what it was before the drivers..
[03:53] <bazhang> jjt001: look at the irc channel list for something like #gnome-ops
[03:53] <jjt001> nickrud: yeah, i think he left canonical
[03:53] <jjt001> bazhang: thanks
[03:53] <Itaku> how do you do cmnd_alias's in sudoers file?
[03:53] <owen1> Scunizi: I also use the magic wond quiet a bit but can't seem to change the percentage of capture/sensitivity.
[03:53] <owen1> Scunizi: Have you ever used Paint.net?
[03:54] <xin000> So many chats. How do you who is talking to who?
[03:54] <balthazarguy> Photoshop owns.
[03:54] <Scunizi> owen1, just 'cause you're not use to it.. layers is what it's all about when creating things.. that might be some of the issues you had with gimp.. I haven't used paint.net because I'm use to gimp and paint.net is probably .net meaning even with mono installed it might not work
[03:54] <ChaosTheory> Balthazarguy: Do you have an NVIDIA video card?
[03:54] <Gilou> xin000> we don't
[03:54] <jrib> xin000: prefix what you say with the nickname of the person you are addressing
[03:54] <Gilou> we just pretend to..
[03:54] <bazhang> xin000: add their nickname by typing the first three or so letters then hitting tab key ; they will see the test highlighted
[03:54] <balthazarguy> Chaos: Yes.
[03:54] <ChaosTheory> Balthazarguy: I have the same problem (it gives me resolutions lower than I need).
[03:54] <Synclair> I need someone to help me install my creative zen v
[03:54] <code_kill> i love linux.
[03:54] <balthazarguy> Chaos: Grrr :/
[03:54] <ChaosTheory> Balthazarguy: Try installing "nvidia-glx-new"
[03:55] <Synclair> it requires libmtp, libnjb and gnomad2
[03:55] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, he just got the nvidia drivers installed and working but can't change the resolution
[03:55] <xin000> jrib: that's great. Thanks!
[03:55] <geZe> when i open tvtime via the menu a window opens and then immediately closes again, nothing else happens. Any ideas?
[03:55] <code_kill> i dont know why more don't use.
[03:55] <ptn107> does ubuntu use SSH1 or SSH2 by default?
[03:55] <code_kill> i guess just scared of command
[03:55] <owen1> Scunizi: Thanks for introducing me to Krita.  I will try to give it more time and may seem that I might enjoy it better.  thanks a lot!  Have a great night!
[03:55] <Synclair> I installed everything but my device it's not recognized
[03:55] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Oh, I see.
[03:55] <Scunizi> owen1, no problem. see ya.
[03:55] <jrib> ptn107: there's no ssh server installed by default
[03:55] <dryder> Hi everybody - I'm in desparate need of help please - I did something stupid to my usb drive... can anybody help?
[03:55] <DariusTheoNoir> justjaden, you might have something creating a firestorm booting up (network card, etc)
[03:55] <ptn107> jrib: yeah i know in gutsy i have to manually install it, but its installed in hardy
[03:56] <ptn107> jrib: just wondering what version ubuntu uses out of the box
[03:56] <bazhang> dryder: please provide a lot more info
[03:56] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, actually here's the link.. have you looked at it yet?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:56] <dryder> Was having problems with a usb drive. Thought I had the solution and clicked the drive icon, Properties>Volume and changed Settings Mount Point, File System and Mount Options. Now I can't access it - nor can gparted. Not quite true - if I: sudo mkdir /media/sdj1
[03:56] <dryder> sudo mkdir /media/"FreeAgent Drive"
[03:56] <dryder> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdj1 /media/"FreeAgent Drive" -o rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,umask=222
[03:56] <dryder> the partition mounts and I can see the contents - so can gparted. Can anybody help me undo what (I shouldn't have) done, please?
[03:56] <FloodBot2> dryder: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:56] <ChaosTheory> I need to get a Windows XP computer to use this network wirelessly.
[03:56] <DariusTheoNoir> might try 455243 in the ubuntu forum...
[03:56] <justjaden> dariustheoNoir: what do you mean? and what are my options?
[03:56] <ChaosTheory> This computer has the router (and it is running Ubuntu).
[03:56] <sweetsinse> is there a way in xfce, to get mouse drag highlighting on the desktop..  like gnome/kde/windowz
[03:56] <jrib> ptn107: read your /etc/ssh/sshd_config (2)
[03:56] <ChaosTheory> How do I do this?
[03:57] <DariusTheoNoir> well...  check this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455243
[03:57] <balthazarguy> Scun: Sec.
[03:57] <balthazarguy> CHaos: Do what?
[03:57] <dryder> FloodBot2 - sorry
[03:57] <Malici> hello
[03:57] <ChaosTheory> Balthazar: I need to get the Win XP desktop hooked up onto this wireless network.
[03:57] <balthazarguy> Scun: Yeah I"m looking at it now.
[03:57] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, you mean that the router is plugged into the ubuntu machine? and is the router wireless?
[03:57] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Correct.
[03:57] <DariusTheoNoir> all I know is that I booted into another window manager and then back to gnome and it fixed the problem
[03:57] <sweetsinse> are there any other app that control the root window/desktop
[03:58] <bazhang> Synclair: amarok may well support that, if ubuntuforums are to be believed
[03:58] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok.. access to the router's wireless function has nothing to do with ubuntu. The router is stand alone.. can you access the router's setup screen with ubuntu?
[03:58] <jrib> sweetsinse: what do you want to do exactly?
[03:58] <ptn107> jrib:   # Protocol 2,1 is commented out so im trying to figure out what the default is before i change it to just   Protocol 2
[03:58] <ThreeFingerPete> ok. i can change a kernel, but i am wondering, is it advisable to change from a 32 bit kernel to a 64 with out reinstalling?
[03:58] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: I'm not sure, do you know how?
[03:58] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: The wireless network is already set up.
[03:58] <code_kill> nice. thanks to whome ever it was, sorry can't remember (firestarter) ----- that help was quicker then google!  lol
[03:58] <sweetsinse> jrib i just want to be able to drag-select multipule item on the desktop
[03:58] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: I'm currently "directly connected" to it.
[03:59] <Synclair> well.. it doesn't
[03:59] <jrib> ptn107: mine has "Protocol 2" explicitly
[03:59] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: The Win XP desktop is going to be the client.
[03:59] <code_kill> brb all
[03:59] <Synclair> it won't recognize my device
[03:59] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=547811 Synclair
[03:59] <jrib> sweetsinse: that works by default in gnome
[03:59] <sweetsinse> yeah i know
[03:59] <justjaden> DariusTheoNoir: how did you boot to another window manager?
[03:59] <sweetsinse> but i use xfce..  i am getting my company switched over
[03:59] <ptn107> jrib: so this book im reading is correct in saying i should change it to Protocol 2 for my server
[03:59] <sweetsinse> i have all the backend stuff w3rked out, i just want to tweak the looks
[03:59] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, well... the router is connected to the cable modem or dls modem and your current desktop is wired directly to it but that doesn't mean wireless is turned on .. go to Firefox and type <IP_ADDRESS> into the addres bar and see what happens.
[04:00] <powder^> books about using ubuntu?  anything?
[04:00] <DariusTheoNoir> oh... I had installed fvwm and windowmaker...they show up as options in your login (if you aren't set to log in automatically)
[04:00] <balthazarguy> Brb, relogging.
[04:00] <SubOne> I tried installing Ubuntu Live CD to a usb pen drive following this: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar , but it wont boot. Any ideas?
[04:00] <balthazarguy> HOpefully this fixed it.
[04:00] <bazhang> powder^: the newest and best book is front paged on slashdot right now
[04:00] <DariusTheoNoir> SubOne, does your bios support booting to USB?
[04:00] <jrib> ptn107: man sshd_config  agrees that "Protocol 2" is standard
[04:00] <Khajavi> Synclair: try to start hald service
[04:00] <SubOne> DariusTheoNoir: yes
[04:00] <powder^> bazhang k
[04:00] <SubOne> DariusTheoNoir: the bios recognizes it and it is set to boot first
[04:00] <justjaden> DariusTheNoir: I'm totally new to this, could you be a little more specific with what I could try?
[04:01] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: It's loading. . .
[04:01] <Synclair> if I edit the 45-libnjb.rules I get my device set up
[04:01] <balthazarguy> Haha, it worked.
[04:01] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Problem loading page.
[04:01] <balthazarguy> Thanks for the link, Sun.
[04:01] <balthazarguy> Scun*
[04:01] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: No.
[04:01] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok.. try <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:01] <bazhang> http://books.slashdot.org/books/08/04/02/1319237.shtml powder^
[04:01] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: It asks for a username and a password.
[04:01] <DariusTheoNoir> well...let me look it up and see what I can find...if the problem is happening every time it is probably a different issue than what I had
[04:01] <balthazarguy> Thanks for all the help guys :)
[04:01] <ChaosTheory> Balthazar: Wait!
[04:01] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, no www or anything... try hitting enter and see what happens
[04:01] <Khajavi> SubOne: does your Bios support booting usb device?
[04:02] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: <IP_ADDRESS> --> it asks for a username and a password
[04:02] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, if that doesn't work in password type admin
[04:02] <Scunizi> then enter
[04:02] <alteregoa> fnord
[04:02] <SubOne> Khajavi: yes and it is set to boot first and the bios recognizes the drive
[04:02] <urthmover> has anyone installed ubuntu in parallels?
[04:02] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Doesn't work.
[04:02] <DariusTheoNoir> first of all...should probably know which version you are running, justjaden
[04:02] <sweetsinse> what apps can be used besides xfdesktop to control root window
[04:02] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, what kind of router.. make and model please
[04:02] <alteregoa> yeah in world 1
[04:03] <justjaden> 8.04
[04:03] <SubOne> I can't get it to boot from the stick in a virtual box either
[04:03] <alteregoa> i installed ubuntu in super mario world
[04:03] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Linksys, Wireless-G 2.4GHz Broadband Router.
[04:03] <bazhang> alteregoa: this is a support channel do you have a support question?
[04:03] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, hang on while I download the manuel.
[04:03] <alteregoa> yeah
[04:03] <alteregoa> i cannot install gnome-keyring-manager
[04:03] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, is it a router and modem together?  if not it should have a model number..
[04:03] <alteregoa> after update the keyring is fnorded up
[04:04] <Synclair> look at this
[04:04] <Synclair> http://www.pastebin.ca/968549
[04:04] <jrib> justjaden: support for 8.04 is in #ubuntu+1 since it is beta
[04:04] <blbrown> off-topic; am I wrong or is google popping up a redirect for every link I click on
[04:04] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Yes, it's a router and a modem together.
[04:04] <blbrown> redirect message
[04:04] <DariusTheoNoir> Justjaden, is your problem similar to the thread I posted earlier?
[04:04] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, k.. just a sec
[04:04] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: It's a Motorola SB4101 SURFboard Cable Modem.
[04:05] <jrib> blbrown: #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[04:05] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, so it's not a linksys?  now I'm confused.. which one is it?
[04:05] <justjaden> DariusTheoNoir: I'm reading them now. Some are similar yes, I'll try to troubleshoot with them.
[04:05] <DariusTheoNoir> that might be a good start.
[04:05] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Linksys is the router.
[04:05] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: The modem is Motorola.
[04:05] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Oh, were you asking if they were both one thing?
[04:05] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: No.
[04:05] <dryder> not impatient - just unfamiliar with this - did my usb drive problem appear?
[04:05] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok.. did you find the model number on the back?
[04:05] <Synclair> Khajavi: look at this http://www.pastebin.ca/968549
[04:05] <justjaden> Thanks for your help.
[04:05] <DariusTheoNoir> unless you are experienced with changing window managers, I wouldn't recommend my half-witted technique
[04:05] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: For the router?
[04:05] <alteregoa> rightnosys
[04:06] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, yes
[04:06] <DariusTheoNoir> no problem - sorry I couldn't be more helpful
[04:06] <fxjr> guys....
[04:06] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: WRT54G V8
[04:06] <alteregoa> why dogs always disturb the kindergarden places
[04:06] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, just a sec
[04:06] <fxjr> did you notice that when you press ctrl + alt + pgup or down
[04:06] <bazhang> !ot | alteregoa
[04:06] <ubotu> alteregoa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:06] <fxjr> compiz changes workspaces?
[04:06] <Khajavi> Synclair: ok
[04:06] <sweetsinse> ideas for root window managers?  besides default xfdesktop?
[04:07] <fxjr> but the problem is that this are the keyboard shortcut  to change tab in gedit
[04:07] <fxjr> s/this/these
[04:07] <fxjr> do you know how to disable that behavior from compiz?
[04:07] <DariusTheoNoir> well...what do you like, sweetsinse?  Minimalist, decorated, light, heavy...etc
[04:08] <fxjr> I didn't find anything in the compiz wall plugin to disable it.
[04:08] <jrib> fxjr: that's probably a better question for #compiz-fusion but you can probably set that in compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:08] <alteregoa> i like dadaism
[04:08] <nickrud> fxjr I use clt-alt-paggeup/down in compiz to change gedit tabs
[04:08] <bazhang> alteregoa: you have been asked before to stop
[04:08] <sweetsinse> DariusTheoNoir i just want ability to highlight multiple icons
[04:08] <fxjr> nickrud, jrib where is this shortcut set?
[04:08] <SubOne> is that really all you guys can suggest?
[04:08] <DariusTheoNoir> ah...ctrl click
[04:08] <sweetsinse> DariusTheoNoir uhhh drag highlighting?
[04:08] <fxjr> I even tried advanced search
[04:08] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, when you typed "admin" in the password field, was the user name field blank and did you use all lowercase when typing admin?
[04:08] <xipietotec> fxjr, its in compizconfig-settings-manager, and it depends on what plugins you have activated, and what keybindings they're set to.
[04:08] <two-bits> SubOne
[04:08] <sweetsinse> i cant think of a good word to describe it
[04:08] <fxjr> and couldn't find anything bind to it.
[04:09] <nickrud> fxjr it's default in my gedit, I've made no changes to those keybindings
[04:09] <SubOne> two-bits: yes?
[04:09] <Khajavi> is there any one how have motorola a1200 linux mobile?
[04:09] <fxjr> nickrud, yes. it is the default shortcut of gedit. the problem is that I want to disable in compiz
[04:09] <nickrud> fxjr erm, Ignore me for now, I'm doing this in beta
[04:09] <DariusTheoNoir> sweetsinse: which window manager do you use currently?
[04:09] <fxjr> because now I can't change tabs in gedit.
[04:09] <sweetsinse> DariusTheoNoir like what you do in thunar... you cant select more than one thing by abitrarily clicking a point and dragging
[04:09] <sweetsinse> i have compiz
[04:09] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Yes to both.
[04:09] <sweetsinse> and emerald
[04:09] <fxjr> nickrud, beta? 8.04?
[04:10] <fxjr> I'm using 8.04 too.
[04:10] <nickrud> fxjr . Can't discuss it here ;)
[04:10] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: I just went over to the XP laptop and it says some of the internet hardware is still disconnected?
[04:10] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please fxjr
[04:10] <fxjr> nickrud, ahhh ok. sorry for that. I didn't now.
[04:10] <DariusTheoNoir> oh...nice...the last time I installed compiz, it kept me from moving windows around and changing focus
[04:10] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, did you buy this new or is anyone else using it in the house?
[04:10] <fxjr> bazhang, thanks. I didn't even know there was this channel.
[04:10] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: I'm the host computer, and there's one other computer running Windows XP that needs to use it (client).
[04:10] <fxjr> I went here directly after installing xchat :)
[04:10] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: It's new.
[04:10] <Synclair> can someone help me with this? http://www.pastebin.ca/968549
[04:11] <fxjr> anyway it is nice to know there is this so active channel.
[04:11] <Khajavi> Synclair: hald service can recognize usb device
[04:11] <fxjr> changing to ubuntu+1 then :)
[04:11] <bazhang> fxjr: in three weeks you can come back ;]
[04:11] <Synclair> what service?
[04:11] <Synclair> how do I run it?
[04:11] <sweetsinse> DariusTheoNoir yeah i had similar problems for awhile
[04:11] <DariusTheoNoir> correct me if I am wrong, but I thought compiz and emerald were window decorators and effects--not strictly window managers.  (what I mean is KDE, Gnome, ion, fvwm, windowmaker...etc)
[04:12] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, you're not the host.. you're just plugged into it.. meaning you are also a guest of the router.. I suggest you take a look at the manuel at the section on resetting it back to normal then you should be able to get into it.. here's the manuel link.  http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1166859837401&packedargs=sku%3DWRT54G&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=3740137
[04:12] <Scunizi> 401B01&displaypage=download#versiondetail
[04:12] <DariusTheoNoir> oh...and xfce
[04:12] <bazhang> DariusTheoNoir: compiz is a window compositor iirc
[04:12] <DariusTheoNoir> right
[04:12] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, sorry that split. http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1166859837401&packedargs=sku%3DWRT54G&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=3740137401B01&displaypage=download#versiondetail
[04:12] <DariusTheoNoir> compositor...
[04:12] <DariusTheoNoir> but you've got some kind of backend...right?
[04:13] <unop> DariusTheoNoir, compiz is a "compositing window managaer" according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiz
[04:13] <bazhang> the fallback is normally gnome's metacity
[04:13] <DariusTheoNoir> thanks unop
[04:13] <Khajavi> Synclair: please run: ls /dev/* > a then unplug usb dvice then ls /dev/* > b then diff a b
[04:13] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Hm. . .
[04:13] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Reset back to normal?
[04:13] <DariusTheoNoir> all I know is that it doesn't work for me...
[04:13] <sweetsinse> DariusTheoNoir what i need isnt even a WM.. that is compiz.  in xfce xfdesktop controls the background and the icons/behaviour of the "desktop".  in  gnome nautilus perfoms this function.  i want an app thats neither but both
[04:14] <DariusTheoNoir> ah...ok...now I understand what you are trying to communicate
[04:14] <nickrud> sweetsinse background setting, or icons?
[04:14] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, yes.. just in case the rom is got some bad info or it was left in a protected state from the factory.. by resetting it, it will get rid of any passwords that are on the router and the default "admin" will work to get into it.
[04:14] <DariusTheoNoir> well...have fun with that.
[04:14] <Khajavi> Synclair: report me diff a b
[04:15] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Hm, okay. I'm going to go over to the desktop now and see if anything works.
[04:15] <fxjr> hey guys!
[04:15] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, k.. that is a good router.. I've got one.. it's based on linux
[04:15] <fxjr> thanks for your promptly responses!
[04:16] <sweetsinse> nickrud, i would like to retain ability to drag from thunar file manager onto/out of desktop, and be able to 'highlight' select more than one icon on this desktop..  like you can with gnome/kde/windowz
[04:16] <SoulBlade> hi all - i had installed mythbuntu 7.10 on an old machine.. spent some time getting my tuner to work w/ it (hauppage pvr2 usb) - i recently installed a slew of updates and now my tuner doesn't seem to work... i unfortunately had installed like 60 updates - how do you guys typically debug an issue like this - im pretty new to linux
[04:16] <bazhang> SoulBlade: have you asked in #ubuntu-mythtv
[04:17] <SoulBlade> i had to edit my grub boot params to make things work on 7.1 - there were some irq issues
[04:17] <Synclair> Khajavi: /dev/libmtp-usbdev1.4 is the one that gets disconnected
[04:17] <sCOTTo> hey does anyone have any good knowledge on networkin with windows machines? i have been having trouble from start to now.... my windows boxes can see my files but I cant see theirs... i am in a muddle...
[04:17] <SoulBlade> nope - didnt even know about it
[04:17] <SoulBlade> thanks!
[04:17] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, Actually I was wrong.. it's not based on linux.. that's the GL version
[04:17] <nickrud> sweetsinse as far as I know, there are only 4 desktop managers in the sense you mean:  gnome, kde, xfce, and cde
[04:18] <sweetsinse> have you used xfce?
[04:18] <nickrud> sweetsinse and cde is pretty brain dead, probably won't give you what you want.
[04:19] <unop> nickrud, not that i can name any off of the top of my head, but surely you discredit 20 years of unix desktop environments with that statement :)
[04:19] <nickrud> sweetsinse yes, briefly.
[04:19] <nickrud> unop true, i forget gnustep already ;)
[04:19] <Khajavi> Synclair: now sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart then sudo /init,d/hald restart then sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[04:19] <nickrud> unop I think I meant *in use* in any measurable fashion today
[04:20] <sweetsinse> nickrud under the desktop option.. there is a switch to 'allow xfce to manage desktop', if you flip that off it kills the desktop background and icons/etc.---but this has no effect on WM window management functions/actions.
[04:20] <unop> nickrud, i wonder what "desktop environment" i use .. i run fluxbox :)
[04:20] <nickrud> sweetsinse yes.  It lets me select rename and type a new name but then gives me an error?
[04:21] <talcite_> does anyone here use eclipse3.2 and java 64?
[04:21] <unop> nickrud, and kde ones too .. :)
[04:21] <code_kill> had to feed the baby
[04:21] <nickrud> sweetsinse none that I know of. and unop no, you're running gnome apps in your window manager.
[04:21] <masnet08> LaCosta
[04:21] <SuperSayjin> what programs cau u use to moniter cpu temperatures?
[04:21] <alteregoa> betty waintrop might help
[04:21] <unop> nickrud, so what exactly is a desktop environment in relation to the apps that it houses, contains and manages then ?
[04:21] <bazhang> alteregoa: for the last time please stop
[04:21] <sweetsinse> i just want to get more functionality out of the desktop
[04:21] <nickrud> unop in the same way one could (if they wanted to) run metacity as a standalone window manager
[04:22] <sweetsinse> i like to dump things there etc. not just look at photo
[04:22] <nickrud> unop I think of things that actually have a desktop you can put things on
[04:22] <code_kill> does anyone here write python?
[04:22] <unop> nickrud, like what exactly?
[04:22] <nickrud> unop like nautilus in the context of gnome
[04:22] <ChaosTheory> Scuzini: Okay, can I just make a *new* network?
[04:23] <ChaosTheory> Scuzini: And won't that automatically make me the host?
[04:23] <sweetsinse> or thunar/xfdesktop to xfce
[04:23] <unop> nickrud, so if i use fluxbox and have nautilus draw a desktop, do i have a "desktop environment" ? :)
[04:23] <ChaosTheory> Scuzini: The XP computer has no "View available wireless networks" option.
[04:23] <alteregoa> i cannot install gnome-keyring-manager
[04:23] <code_kill> xp has that option
[04:23] <sweetsinse> fluxbox is a WM too
[04:24] <nickrud> unop more specifically, I'm not thinking of launchers but of folders and files. But I digress and am idiosyncratic
[04:24] <tgelter> is there some way to keep NetworkManager from connecting to a particular access point?
[04:24] <code_kill> "view available wirless networks"
[04:24] <unop> nickrud, or rather, if i use all the gnome components like the volume-manager, clipboard, gtk-theming, etc, etc .. i run them, and surely they are integral to the "gnome DE" ?
[04:24] <ChaosTheory> Scuzini: Are you there?
[04:24] <nickrud> unop sure do. You're running gnome with a replacement window manager
[04:24] <sweetsinse> im thinking about trying to hack thunar and compiz window rules into a desktop
[04:25] <code_kill> what is a good network tool similiar to "nettools" for ubuntu?
[04:25] <code_kill> if anyone knows?>
[04:25] <unop> nickrud, i'm pulling your leg .. :) i think that the definition of a DE is unclear and really is quite irrelevant to how you use and interact with the system.
[04:26] <ChaosTheory> Scuzini: Are you there?
[04:26]  * nickrud crosses fingers at unop, ambiguity is evil ;)
[04:26] <sweetsinse> desktop in the sense you can 'feel' it by dragging/dropping etc
[04:26] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: I believe his name is Scunizi
[04:27] <sweetsinse> the visible screen is a table at the root level
[04:27] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, yep
[04:27] <bazhang> tabcompletion is your friend ChaosTheory
[04:27] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, just updated my routers firmware.. you's is linux I believe..
[04:27] <SuperSayjin> for all those that run f@h join the #f@h channel for chat/advice and idoling lolz
[04:28] <bazhang> code_kill: what are you trying to accomplish
[04:28] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, now it's my turn.. are YOU there?
[04:28] <bazhang> tgelter: like the neighbor's? please specify
[04:28] <nickrud> SuperSayjin please don't use this channel for advertising others
[04:29] <tgelter> bazhang: yeah, like the neighbor's
[04:29] <bazhang> tgelter: make your own the default
[04:29] <tgelter> bazhang: the neighbors have an unsecured network that networkmanager will connect to if it can't connect to mine
[04:30] <treble54> I'm having issues using the built-in partitioning feature when installing Ubuntu 7.10
[04:30]  * nickrud wonders if he should ask unop about the difference between a desktop and a desktop environment
[04:30] <ToddEDM> hey guys , im building a PC.... what brand SATA HDD is better than the rest?
[04:30] <tgelter> bazhang: how do I specify a default?
[04:30] <treble54> I want to keep my windows installation, but I don't understand the Ubuntu Partitioning tool during the installation
[04:30] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 tgelter this is how to do it cli way--network-manager has always been flaky for me
[04:30] <nickrud> treble54 are you running vista?
[04:30] <treble54> can anyone enlighten me or point me to some reading I might look at?
[04:30] <treble54> nope, XP
[04:31] <mneptok> SuperSayjin: please do not advertise other channels in #ubuntu* channels
[04:31] <tgelter> bazhang: thanks
[04:31] <Krumar> hey, i'm trying to help a friend install gusty on his computer, it loads ok, but when we get to the partitioning section, it can't find the harddrive, we've tried putting with pci=nomsi and all-generic-ide, they didn't help any, anyone have any ideas?
[04:31] <ChaosTheory> Scuzini: Haha, sorry.
[04:31] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Sorry, not Scuzini. -_-
[04:31] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, :)
[04:31] <mneptok> Krumar: disable the crappy software RAID in the BIOS? ;)
[04:31] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: I think I'm just going to revert to having the desktop be the "host."
[04:32] <bazhang> Krumar: set bios to ata
[04:32] <Krumar> mneptok, i don't think the bois supports raid, but i will check that out now
[04:32] <SoulBlade> i think i have a different issue... there's nothing in my /proc/bus/usb directory - ive attached the usb tuner.. will the device only be added if suitable drivers are found for it?
[04:32] <nickrud> tgelter basically you want to shrink the xp partition by pulling the right end towards the left, then tell ubuntu to use the freed up space
[04:32] <hobbzilla> Does one have to create a TAP interface to create a bridge for virtual guests for each guest?? i.e. tap0, tap1, etc..
[04:32] <Krumar> bazhang, i'll check that too
[04:32] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Now, do you know how to fix my screen resolution? =P
[04:32] <tgelter> nickrud: I don't think that message was meant for me
[04:32] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, do you have two nic cards in the machine? one wireless and one wired?
[04:32] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, yes.
[04:33] <nickrud> tgelter thanks,  treble54 see my last above, I addressed it to the wrong person
[04:33] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok. then.. screen resolution.. I'll get the link. hang on.
[04:33] <treble54> oh ok :)
[04:33] <unop> nickrud, the desktop is the area on a display's screen that the user interacts with, the desktop environment is composed of the various objects that make up the graphical interfaces (on the desktop) -- but i know you'll beg to differ :)
[04:33] <xbehave2>  does the kernel need to be outside of an lvm partition
[04:33] <arbeck> I just installed the hardy beta 64 bit, installed ubuntu-restricted-extras, but DVD's still will not play... did i miss something?
[04:33] <mneptok> xbehave2: no, but it's a danged good idea.
[04:33]  * nickrud has successfully gone fishing :)
[04:33] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, it's an NVIDIA driver.
[04:33] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:33] <bazhang> libdvdcss2 and #ubuntu+1 please arbeck
[04:33] <mneptok> xbehave2: keeping /boot off an LVM is an extremely smart idea
[04:34] <nickrud> unop but I do agree completely with that statement
[04:34] <treble54> nickrud: ok, so of the three options, you're speaking about the option with the slider, indicating a percentage of the harddrive space
[04:34] <nickrud> treble54 yes.
[04:34] <tgelter> mneptok: until grub 2 is standard, no?
[04:34] <unop> nickrud, i can disagree with my own statement tho -- i mean, what if all that was on my desktop was a terminal-emulator? ;)
[04:35] <mneptok> tgelter: even then i wouldn't do it.
[04:35] <Krumar> bazhang, and mneptok, no raid in bios and i don't see anything that always you to set to ata
[04:35] <tgelter> mneptok: reason being?
[04:35] <nickrud> unop we gotta stop, or mneptok will pull out his version of the pointy stick
[04:35] <bazhang> haha
[04:35] <mneptok> Krumar: it's *something* about the drive controller. what make/model is it?
[04:35] <unop> :)
[04:35] <leprasmurf> hello all, is there a way to upgrade to OO 2.4 from ubuntu or do I have to uninstall from apt and install manually?
[04:36] <mneptok> tgelter: LVM calls are in the kernel. the kernel lives in boot. why would you put the only thing that can successfully mount your array *inside* the array? ;)
[04:36] <bazhang> leprasmurf: why do you wish to do so?
[04:36] <treble54> nickrud: ok, then if I put the slider at 0% (which I believe is all the way to the left), what does that tell the installation to do
[04:36] <mneptok> tgelter: that's like storing your fingers inside the telephone.
[04:36] <leprasmurf> bazhang: I am extremely frustrated with base 2.3 and wish to try 2.4 to see if any of the issues I'm having have been resolved
[04:36] <nickrud> treble54 it'll probably fail, since the shrunken space won't hold the contents of the xp partition
[04:36] <userone> I am looking for a good mp3 player, any tips?
[04:36] <xbehave2> my problem is that my /boot is only 8mb ( a problem i didnt realise till id done eerything else) so i imstalled the kernels to an lvm partion, is it possible to setup grub so it boots to the kernel in the lvm?
[04:37] <bazhang> cowon but offtopic here userone
[04:37] <mneptok> xbehave2: no
[04:37] <mneptok> xbehave2: you need lilo
[04:37] <nickrud> treble54 to be honest, I never even came close to trying that, I'm chicken
[04:37] <Newbuntu2> hello
[04:37] <tgelter> mneptok: the next version of grub knows about software raid and lvm, so it's not really an issue like you say
[04:37] <mneptok> tgelter: i'm a pessimist :)
[04:37] <userone> @ bazhang - where should I go ?
[04:37] <bazhang> leprasmurf: what issues; please specify
[04:38] <xbehave2> isnt lilo dangerous?
[04:38] <Newbuntu2> does anyone have any recommendations for webcams that work outdoors and can record at 30fps, and are not a hassle to get to work in linux?
[04:38] <leprasmurf> bazhang: it's a long list
[04:38] <bazhang> userone: cowon's home page or #ubuntu-offtopic ;]
[04:38] <tgelter> mneptok: well, ok...I guess I understand then
[04:38] <treble54> nickrud: ok let me put it in a different way: what am I indicating as I drag the slider more to the left vs. more to the right?
[04:38] <bazhang> leprasmurf: have you visited the open office irc channel?
[04:38] <mneptok> tgelter: i smell the way i do not because of poor personal hygiene, but because i've been burned so many times ;)
[04:38] <userone> @ bazhang, for players in general.
[04:38] <mneptok> (and poor personal hygiene)
[04:38] <nickrud> xbehave2 no, in fact it has a couple advantages over grub but grub has many more over lilo
[04:39] <bazhang> userone: not sure there sorry
[04:39] <tgelter> mneptok: the best way to learn! (or at least the most long-lasting)
[04:39] <xbehave2> what do i lose by using lilo, and what do i gain?
[04:39] <leprasmurf> bazhang: the jdbc connector seems to lock some of my tables as readonly despite my privilege, I can't edit labels on a wizard created form, I can't find a way to create an input mask on text fields, I can't find any type of date picker/calendar for date objects
[04:39] <userone> @ bazhang, thanks
[04:39] <nickrud> treble54 say you have one partition using the whole drive, 120gb. You move it to 50% , and the partitioner will try to shrink the partition to 60gb, leaving 60gb unallocated
[04:40] <leprasmurf> bazhang: yes, I spent most of the day lurking in there awaiting any answer, the only replies I got on there was when I was helping another user
[04:40] <bazhang> leprasmurf: thus my recommend of the open office irc channel they will be xperts at that
[04:40] <userone> best mobo for linux?
[04:40] <unop> !best | userone
[04:40] <ubotu> userone: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[04:40] <tgelter> so, I realize that this isn't the best place to ask this (point me to a good channel if you know of one)...does anyone know of a good source for good-quality A/V receivers that won't break the bank?
[04:40] <bazhang> leprasmurf: though someone really good for oO may be in here
[04:40] <leprasmurf> bazhang: have not been successful in getting any replies to any issues, nor have I had much success in google
[04:40] <nickrud> xbehave2 access to a command line to manipulate the boot is available in grub, and not in lilo. Huge advantage. Lilo doesn't depend on the bios for identifying disks and partitions, not so big an advantage with better bioses that are now in use
[04:41] <izinucs> userone, might try #hardware or #linux
[04:41] <leprasmurf> bazhang: hence I was asking the ubuntu specific question of updates outside of synaptic
[04:41] <userone> k, thanks.
[04:41] <bazhang> leprasmurf: oh I meant those specific issues
[04:41] <nickrud> treble54 but if you have more than 60gb of data on the partition, you either will fail in the resize or the data will be corrupted.
[04:42] <leprasmurf> bazhang: which I did try, wasted most of the night trying to work around these issues
[04:42] <xbehave2> ive installed my system to a lvm, how can i install lilo, and get it to boot to my system?
[04:42] <nickrud> never used lvm, sorry
[04:42] <Tu13es> can I tell my external drives to sleep when not in use?
[04:43] <MeatGrinder> why is it so difficult (impossible) to rename an NTFS usb flash drive in ubuntu?
[04:43] <MeatGrinder> why can't i rename a flash drive in nautilus? It lets me select rename and type a new name but then gives me an error?
[04:43] <xbehave2> nickrud how would i usually install lilo?
[04:43] <treble54> nickrud: ok, sorry to beat this to death, but what about if the slider is at 40% ?
[04:43] <leprasmurf> MeatGrinder: because ntfs is a closed source file system and any modifications is still in the experimental stage
[04:44] <leprasmurf> is there a way to upgrade to OO 2.4 from ubuntu or do I have to uninstall from apt and install manually?
[04:44] <unop_> Tu13es, i believe you can use hdparm to enable spindown
[04:44] <ChaosTheory> I've got all the monitor resolutions under "Modes," but it's not showing up.
[04:44] <bazhang> http://download.openoffice.org/ you can download the deb and see if that fixes things leprasmurf
[04:44] <ChaosTheory> Anyone know how to fix the monitor resolution problem? =|
[04:45] <izinucs> leprasmurf, or wait until hardy is out.. or install the beta version
[04:45] <Tu13es> unop_: hm, I'm just reading that I think
[04:45] <unop_> Tu13es, see here - http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_hdparm_to_improve_IDE_device_performance
[04:45] <ChaosTheory> FixVideoResolutionHowTo doesn't solve my problem. . .
[04:45] <nickrud> MeatGrinder https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive (works for partitions as well)
[04:45] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: how about pastebinning your xorg.conf
[04:45] <leprasmurf> bazhang: yeah, that's where I'm sitting now, the deb download claims conflicting packages with openoffice.org-bundled and refuses to install
[04:45] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: One second.
[04:45] <leprasmurf> izinucs: ty
[04:45] <nickrud> xbehave2 sudo apt-get install lilo, configure lilo.conf, and then write an mbr.
[04:46] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, I'm there and tried that, didn't work at all
[04:46] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/d11268fce
[04:46] <nickrud> treble54 then 40% would be ntfs, and 60% unallocated
[04:46] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, worked for renaming my windows hdd but not my usb flash drives
[04:46] <nickrud> MeatGrinder were they mounted?
[04:46] <MeatGrinder> tried it mounted and unmounted
[04:47] <izinucs> leprasmurf, np. OO has agravated me as well.  espicially with some spreadsheet  functions that are easy in excel and bang your head hard in OO.. also printing envelopes is near impossible from a spreadsheet full of data
[04:47] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: you have the drivers enabled? it only shows generic nvidia card and the nv drivers in your xorg.conf
[04:47] <programador1_> hola
[04:47] <xbehave2> nickrud, only 2 problems, 1 i dont ae a working system to do that from, is lilo on the alternate install cd?, 2 i dondt know how to right a lilo.conf
[04:48] <bazhang> !es | programador1_
[04:48] <ubotu> programador1_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:48] <nickrud> MeatGrinder hm, I just used the vfat today on my usb stick, don't have an ntfs one
[04:48] <programador1_> thanks
[04:48] <sCOTTo> hey does anyone have any good knowledge on networkin with windows machines? i have been having trouble from start to now.... my windows boxes can see my files but I cant see theirs... i am in a muddle...
[04:48] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Oh, sorry. I need to enable the restricted NVIDIA driver.
[04:48] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Okay, it installed.
[04:48] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, doh! dammit i forgot it's FAT32, let me try that
[04:48] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: that would help hehe
[04:48] <unop_> sCOTTo, what happens when you try and access the windows machines?
[04:48] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: It gives me the same resolutions.
[04:48] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: But it also says I need a system restart.
[04:48] <sCOTTo> i cant find them or browse them
[04:48] <leprasmurf> izinucs: I'm finding the same.  I could have had this form done twice over in access, but running into so many problems in OO
[04:48] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: restart first
[04:49] <sCOTTo> unop_ i cant do anything with them
[04:49] <nickrud> xbehave2 I'd suggest you use grub, as far as I know that works fine with lvm. But I've never investigated actually setting it up myself.
[04:49] <treble54> nickrud: ok so that 60% would be unallocated and then looked into for allocating space for the Ubuntu installation, correct?
[04:49] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, actually it doesn't say anything about vfat in that webpage, which command do I use in terminal... vfat or mlabel...I tried mlabel...didn't work
[04:49] <sCOTTo> unop_ im no expert with linux - I forsook Windows vista for ubuntu as a supporter of death to windows....
[04:49] <izinucs> leprasmurf, i didn't catch  the issue you were having..  form data merges I've actually managed to get done with a spreadsheet of data
[04:50] <nickrud> xbehave2 I want to mention one thing:  you have to have a separate /boot   partition with lvm as I understand it. That might be your boot problem
[04:50] <unop_> sCOTTo, ok, given that you know the name or ipaddress of one of your windows machines .. what happens when you type this into the nautilus location bar.  smb://othermachinename
[04:50] <treble54> nickrud: from listening to you, you make it sound like the slider is the user making a request at how the user wants the partitioning to behave, letting the installation program decide the specifics
[04:50] <nickrud> MeatGrinder vfat, it works on fat32
[04:50] <sCOTTo> unop_ is there a gui that will help me hook into the shares on my network?
[04:50] <izinucs> leprasmurf, is that what you're  trying to do?
[04:50] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, ok i'll read up on it
[04:50] <nickrud> treble54 yes? Isn't that how all software works?
[04:50] <xbehave2> it is but short of starting over, i cant use grub, ill look into lilo thx
[04:50] <sCOTTo> unop_ irefox ok?
[04:51] <leprasmurf> izinucs: the jdbc connector seems to lock some of my tables as readonly despite my privilege, I can't edit labels on a wizard created form, I can't find a way to create an input mask on text fields, I can't find any type of date picker/calendar for date objects
[04:51] <unop_> sCOTTo, nautilus does it - firefox no, i believe there is something else on gnome (gnome-connect-server maybe) i can't remember what exactly
[04:51] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Awesome! It has the right resolution now.
[04:51] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: remember what you did for the future ;]
[04:51] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: But now, I can't see any of the title bars. . .
[04:51] <treble54> nickrud: I guess I have a different take on it, it seems like this slider is a little less user input and a little more input from the installation program
[04:52] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: go into ccsm and adjust that or just disable compiz altogether ;]
[04:52] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: But I don't want to disable Compiz. :(
[04:52] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Let me redo the settings.
[04:52] <unop_> sCOTTo, anyway, we'll get to that once we have troubleshooted this? what happens when you browse to smb://   and  smb://othermachinename  ??
[04:52] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, I cannot find information in the ubuntu forums about using vfat to rename usb volumes, what is the syntax?
[04:53] <izinucs> leprasmurf, mine was simple compaired to that.  unfortunatly with no  experience with those needs I'm drawing a blank on how to help.. the OO IRC channel usually starts to pick up this time of night as most of them seem to be in a vastly different time zone.
[04:53] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I don't even have Compiz installed! =D
[04:53] <balthazarguy> Hey all.. anyone here any good with Wine?
[04:53] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: then head over to #compiz-fusion they are the brainiacs for that ;]
[04:53] <brianw> how do I restart NetworkManager?
[04:53] <powder^> Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer.  <<< Is this download going to act like a Windows msi?
[04:53] <nickrud> treble54 you are saying how much you want to give to xp. Next step is how you want to deal with the unallocated space. There are options ranging from let the installation program deal with how big the root and swap partition are, to totally defining exactly how the partitions are laid out. This step is simply shrinking the xp partition
[04:53] <nickrud> MeatGrinder that page I gave you tells you exactly how to use mtools to do the job
[04:53] <genii> powder^: The short answer to that is No
[04:53] <bazhang> powder^: it will be text based and install only
[04:53] <amenado> leprasmurf-> what does jdbc got to do with wizard and forms?
[04:54] <fxjr> night all
[04:54] <Tu13es> unop_: do you know how to start it once I change the hdparm.conf?
[04:54] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, ok i'm confuse, I told you i used mtools and it didn't work and you said to use vfat
[04:54] <fxjr> thanks for your help.
[04:54] <balthazarguy> I have a problem with Wine, anyone here any good with Wine?
[04:54] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, Scunizi here.. this is my nick on my laptop.. install  ccsm from synaptic.. its actually called  compiz configuration setting manager.
[04:54] <leprasmurf> izinucs: ok, ty anyways.  guess I'll try them one more time before I go to the drastic measure of purging and reinstalling
[04:54] <powder^> bazhang -- what does text based.. mean.
[04:54] <leprasmurf> amenado: nothing, they are two seperate issues
[04:54] <powder^> bazhang I mean, I just got the ISO
[04:54] <izinucs> leprasmurf, good luck
[04:54] <leprasmurf> izinucs: ty
[04:54] <amenado> leprasmurf-> i thought so..
[04:54] <izinucs> np
[04:54] <bazhang> balthazarguy: if you dont get answers here check out #winehq and the appdb
[04:54] <powder^> bazhang I mean the ISO for to make a CD with
[04:54] <leprasmurf> amenado: aside from the fact that I can't add a new record via form due to the lock issue
[04:55] <bazhang> powder^: text based means no shiny menus ;]
[04:55] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: I don't see a "ccsm."
[04:55] <powder^> bazhang -- I do not want to make a CD
[04:55] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: I don't have Compiz installed.
[04:55] <unop_> Tu13es, i believe you can put the command into a machine startup script -- /etc/rc.local
[04:55] <treble54> nickrud: ok great that last bit really cleared things up :) sorry to bother you, especially since you're getting questions left and right
[04:55] <leprasmurf> amenado: but I was listing all the issues I was having with OO base
[04:55] <balthazarguy> Baz: Thanks.
[04:55] <unop_> Tu13es, the command i mean
[04:55] <Tu13es> which command?
[04:55] <amenado> leprasmurf-> jdbc connectors have settings, you can reconfigure those
[04:55] <bazhang> powder^: what do you want to do please specify
[04:55] <nickrud> treble54 no problem, the person that doesn't ask questions doesn't get the answers he needs ;)
[04:55] <unop_> Tu13es, your hdparm command
[04:55] <Tu13es> I didn't make a command, I just edited the .conf
[04:55] <powder^> bazhang -- Download make partition, and run Linux
[04:56] <leprasmurf> amenado: any recommendations on how?  I saw one command that mihgt help, but couldn't figure out where to set it
[04:56] <bazhang> powder^: without burning a cd? like using wubi? or what--please more info
[04:56] <nickrud> MeatGrinder did you get some error about mtools_skip_check?
[04:56] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, yes
[04:56] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, it's installed by default.. go to system/preferances and the option for desktop something.. can't referance right now  cause i'm on xp. in there you'll see whee to change the "amount" of effects. change  it to NONE
[04:56] <brianw> how do I restart NetworkManager? I added openvpn support to it... I just can not seem to find an init for it anywhere..
[04:56] <amenado> leprasmurf-> i dont know off hand, its been a long while since i have touched jdbc, but am sure they are there,
[04:56] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, then errors about it not being mounted when it was and vice versa
[04:56] <Newbuntu2> does anyone have any recommendations for webcams that work outdoors and can record at 30fps, and are not a hassle to get to work in linux?
[04:56] <leprasmurf> amenado: ty anyway
[04:56] <nickrud> MeatGrinder   echo mtools_skip_check=1 >> ~/.mtoolsrc , and try again
[04:57] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: But I *want* effects. =D
[04:57] <unop_> Tu13es, i'm not sure how the hdparm.conf file controls hdparm .. hmm
[04:57] <bazhang> !webcams | Newbuntu2
[04:57] <ubotu> Newbuntu2: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:57] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, ok lemme try that, brb
[04:57] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, first things first
[04:57] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: Okay, I did that and it's fixed.
[04:57] <Newbuntu2> bazhang: I've seen the list... but I was hoping for a recommendation/review
[04:57] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: There is no "custom" option though for "Visual effects."
[04:57] <bazhang> Newbuntu2: this is not a hardware polling channel sorry
[04:58] <neW1> hello
[04:58] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, ok.. now go to synaptic and search for compiz.  once the list comes  up look for Compiz configuration settings  manager.
[04:58] <brianw> darn, found it: /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager
[04:58] <ChaosTheory> Oops.
[04:58] <neW1> can any1 help me ?
[04:58] <code_kill> i use metasploit as one of the ways or "tools" of testing my windows network, but have any of you tried it on ubuntu?
[04:58] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: There is no "custom" in "visual effects."
[04:58] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:58] <crf> There is a dialog box on my screen that places itself above every window. It is from xkill. I don't think the dialog is active though. How do I make it go away?
[04:58] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, ok.. now go to synaptic and search for compiz.  once the list comes  up look for Compiz configuration settings  manager.
[04:59] <neW1> i have an ati radeon 9550 and cant seem to get it working ...
[04:59] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, thank you sir, working fine now
[04:59] <unop_> Tu13es, it appears that hdparm is run at machine startup via an init script .. so all you need to do is reboot
[04:59] <Tu13es> sounds good
[04:59] <Tu13es> thanks unop_
[04:59] <unop_> yw
[04:59] <nickrud> MeatGrinder no problem. But I am going to point out that the error message said exactly what to do ;)
[04:59] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: Okay, thanks.
[04:59] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, doh, guess I need to read fine print
[05:00] <nickrud> MeatGrinder sometimes the error messages are more obscure than religious texts, and sometimes they tell you what to do. We were lucky today ;)
[05:00] <MrProper> hi when im trying to login on my proftpd server it says password i enter is wrong
[05:00] <MrProper> changed pass with passwd proftpd
[05:00] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, ok.. now go back to system/preferance and you'll notice a  new menu option above the last one you just used to set things to NONE.. Go there and look for a place to put a check mark on Desktop Manager
[05:01] <unop_> sCOTTo, you still there?
[05:01] <MrProper> tried new password and it still says the same :/
[05:01] <Johnny_5> how do i change permissions 4 other users?
[05:01] <neW1> so, no one can help me ? :(
[05:01] <nickrud> Johnny_5 it depends on exactly what your end goal is, what do you want the user to be able to do?
[05:02] <Tu13es> unop_: hm, strange, I can't seem to get a yes or no when I hdparm -d the drives, and enabling DMA doesn't seem to have any effect
[05:02] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto neW1 please read this
[05:02] <nickrud> neW1 not working is a pretty general term, you'll need to be more specific
[05:02] <Johnny_5> i want 2 b able 2 move files from mine 2 their's and they ssh into my comp in their user name 2 get the shtuff off my comp...
[05:03] <neW1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=569654
[05:03] <neW1> i followed this tut
[05:03] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: Wait. . .
[05:03] <|SPP|_O_GATO> hi all
[05:03] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, ok
[05:03] <|SPP|_O_GATO> i'm from brazil
[05:03] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: I set it to "none" through right click -> visual settings.
[05:03] <bazhang> !br | |SPP|_O_GATO
[05:03] <ubotu> |SPP|_O_GATO: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[05:03] <neW1> but it didint turend out like i was hoping :))
[05:03] <|SPP|_O_GATO> thanks
[05:03] <xxbladexx> hauhau
[05:04] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, I don't know what you did. where did you right click?
[05:04] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: Just on the desktop.
[05:04] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: It appears I have lost title bars again. . .
[05:04] <Tu13es> unop_: hm, strange, it seems all commands to change anything fail
[05:04] <nickrud> Johnny_5 ok, that's two different things. In the main, as long as they can read the file (and ssh lets someone read files just about anywhere, they can get them.
[05:04] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, hang on . I'm  going to vnc into my ubuntu box.
[05:05] <unop_> Tu13es, stupid question but needs asking, are you running them as root?
[05:05] <Johnny_5> so how do i chane the permissions to wheere i can copy items into their /home/user w/o havin' 2 b root?
[05:05] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, can you get to system/preferances/appearance?
[05:06] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Yes.
[05:06] <atul> i have problem related to sound.
[05:06] <nickrud> Johnny_5 myself I'd use sudo to copy the files into their home directory, then chown them to them if I wanted them to be able to alter them. So after moving them I'd do  sudo chown <theiruser>:<theiruser> <files> . That way they could write to them if they chose
[05:06] <Tu13es> unop_: as sudo, yes
[05:06] <atul> I can't hear anyrhing on ubuntu
[05:06] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, can you change it from none to the option below none?
[05:06] <bazhang> neW1: if you want help you need to give precise info; first read the link I gave you then report the exact errors you get when doing it
[05:07] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, not without losing my title bars.
[05:07] <neW1> ok bazhang 10Q
[05:07] <ToddEDM> can you guys check out a site for me..... it doesnt seem to work , may i paste the URL?
[05:07] <unop_> Tu13es, well, what i would say is that obviously not all hdparm options are supported by some disks .. make sure the one you are trying to tweak is supported by the hardware (disk, chipset and controller), secondly, verify that you have the right hdparm command
[05:07] <bazhang> ToddEDM: go ahead
[05:08] <Johnny_5> k thanx
[05:08] <ToddEDM> www.oemdepot.com
[05:08] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok.. go to system/preferances/advanced desktop etc.etc.
[05:08] <balthazarguy> Ok, so I was just at #Wine.. and we found a problem..
[05:08] <balthazarguy> In ubuntu.
[05:08] <waki-wako> join #quebec
[05:08] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, okay.
[05:08] <sCOTTo> hmm sorry
[05:09] <genii> ToddEDM: Slow as hell but it works for me
[05:09] <sCOTTo> unop_ sorry i dropped out
[05:09] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, scroll down while looking on the right side. look for "window decorations" and put a check mark next to it
[05:09] <balthazarguy> They said a problem I'm having in Wine is because one of my partitions isn't mounted right.. so I went to force mount it.. it says I don't have the privallage to unmount it..
[05:09] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, okay, done.
[05:09] <unop_> sCOTTo, 'tis ok
[05:09] <ToddEDM> hmmm yeah it works on one or 2 pages then it doesnt work at all
[05:09] <sCOTTo> ok so nothing happens
[05:09] <genii> ToddEDM: Likely since they are using asp backend
[05:09] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, now are you still on "NONE" if so put it down  a notch
[05:10] <bazhang> ToddEDM: slow but works
[05:10] <nickrud> balthazarguy what partition, an ntfs?
[05:10] <balthazarguy> Yes.
[05:10] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, I'm still on "NONE."
[05:10] <ToddEDM> ok thanks guys
[05:10] <balthazarguy> Nick: yes.
[05:10] <nickrud> balthazarguy   you need to use   sudo  to mount partitions
[05:10] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, move it down one level
[05:10] <balthazarguy> Nick: Ok, what's the command?
[05:10] <atul> I am some problem related to sound as it does not seem working on ubuntu. plz help me
[05:10] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, no title bars.
[05:10] <sCOTTo> unop_ so is there a gui that will help me connect to my windows shares??
[05:11] <nickrud> balthazarguy  something like   sudo mount -o force /dev/<ntfspartition> /path/to/mount/point
[05:11] <tux97> I was wondering can u install pc anywhere v12 for this?
[05:11] <bazhang> tux97: for what please specify
[05:11] <balthazarguy> I need to unmount it first.
[05:11] <nickrud> balthazarguy sudo umount /path/to/mountpoint
[05:11] <Exfil> what is the best virtual machine software for running Windows XP Professional and Fruti Loops Audio Software with USB Midi Keyboard
[05:11] <tux97> for ubuntu gusty
[05:11] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok.. in a terminal type compiz --replace
[05:12] <Exfil> yes
[05:12] <bazhang> tux97: what does it do and is it windows software
[05:12] <genii> tux97: vnc is generally preferred over something like MyPC or PC Anywhere, etc etc
[05:12] <Exfil> tux: yes gusty
[05:12] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, no title bars.
[05:12] <genii> *GotoMyPC
[05:12] <nickrud> Exfil you're probably better off finding a fruti loops channel and asking there, they would have more experience
[05:12] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, type metacity --replace
[05:12] <Exfil> well what is the best VM software to use
[05:12] <Exfil> and how do i obtain it
[05:12] <tux97> ok ty exfil i was just wondering where the howtos are for it cause i can't find em
[05:13] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, title bars now.
[05:13] <bluebaby> hello, can someone help me. I'm at a friend's house because I don't have my wireless internet connection working anymore. I've tried following Ubuntu Help's Troubleshooting guide, but I'm stuck. Please help!
[05:13] <Exfil> tux send me a msg ill help ya
[05:13] <bazhang> Exfil: there are several; vmware-server, vbox and others; this is not a polling channel thanks
[05:13] <khajavi> any one have list of IRC commands?
[05:13] <bluebaby> I brought my huge desktop computer and fat monitor to my friend's house so I can implement whatever advice you can give here.
[05:13] <nickrud> Exfil one that supports midi and audio properly.  Don't waste your time here asking that question
[05:14] <xxbladexx> subzid ;x
[05:14] <bazhang> bluebaby: you need to specify the problems
[05:14] <sCOTTo> ouch
[05:14] <sCOTTo> unop_: you here?
[05:14] <Exfil> i was asking in here cuz no one is my usual channel
[05:14] <bazhang> Exfil: language please
[05:14] <subzid> volt jah xxbladexx
[05:14] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, k. go to system/prefrences/advanced etc.etc etc and click on "cube"
[05:14] <Exfil> boo you i didnt swear
[05:14] <bazhang> Exfil: no name calling than ks
[05:15] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, okay.
[05:15] <Exfil> ok i wont
[05:15] <MrSteve> moo
[05:15] <MyNick> help me regarding sound issues
[05:16] <bazhang> MyNick: please specify
[05:16] <Johnny_5> what if i just want to b able to move files over anytime i want w/o the hassle of doin' that everytime?
[05:16] <ChaosTheory> Yes, Scunizi, I did that.
[05:16] <dreamor> Anyone here using KVM?
[05:16] <MrSteve> system sound?
[05:16] <MyNick> i am unable to play any sound on ubuntu
[05:16] <aaearon> how easy is it to go from 7.10 32bit to 64bit? i'd just download the 64bit version but only the 32bit is on usenet and will download faster :)
[05:16] <MyNick> may be some problem with drivers
[05:16] <nickrud> Exfil possibly #vmware or #vbox will have some answers about their vm's support for fruti loops
[05:17] <bazhang> aaearon: easy if you consider a complete reinstall easy ;]
[05:17] <dreamor> Or I guess I should say KVM/qemu
[05:17] <bluebaby> bazhang, sure. This is the problem. in the month of March 2008, I used a D-Link WDA-2320 RangeBooster G Desktop Adapter.  I then removed it to put in another wireless PCI adapter. But ubuntu computer says "No internet connection." I tried putting back the DLink wireless card but that won't work now either. 8-(
[05:17] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, are you here?
[05:17] <BhaalWK> Hey guys, Im trying to install ubuntu server 7.10 And it gets stuck trying to retrieve libc6-udeb off the CDrom, first I thought it was the disc, so reburnt it, then I figured it had to be the drive, so I replaced it, but it still didnt work, so then I figured burn the CD at a slower speed, and its still not working...  Has anyone else experienced this?
[05:17] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok.. now in the advanced setting box your in, at the top is "general settings" click that.
[05:17] <aaearon> i mean. can i "upgrade" to 64bit from 32bit or am i going to have to end up downloading the 64bit iso regardless? bazhang
[05:17] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, okay, done.
[05:18] <bazhang> aaearon: upgrade in this case means a complete reinstall
[05:18] <aaearon> bah
[05:18] <nickrud> BhaalWK did you do the disk burn check on the start menu?
[05:18] <MyNick> bazhang: Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01) as per lspci
[05:18] <chiefwigms> hey guys - general question - i saw the guide on the forums to make a bootable live/install USB disk... anyways to make multiple partitions so I can have a "multi-os" installable usb disk?
[05:18] <MyNick> but no sound at all
[05:18] <bazhang> bluebaby: is the computer hooked up right now with a wifi hotspot nearby?
[05:18] <chiefwigms> i.e. - windows xp/vista
[05:18] <aaearon> and i know with hardy beta you can partition a drive from the installer, i assume you can with 7.10 too
[05:18] <chiefwigms> and maybe a bartpe
[05:19] <MrSteve> MyNick - motherboard sound?
[05:19] <bluebaby> bazhang, the computer is now hooked up, but am not sure if there's a hotspot
[05:19] <MyNick> yes
[05:19] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok.. under the tab Desktop Size, in the vertical size option but 4
[05:19] <bazhang> aaearon: sure you can dual boot the two
[05:19] <BhaalWK> nickrud: on the start menu?  I use k3b if thats what your asking?
[05:19] <aaearon> well i just need vista and ubuntu
[05:19] <bluebaby> bazhang, even thoug there was wireless internet in the air, the ubuntu comp wouldn't be able to find it.
[05:19] <nickrud> BhaalWK no, I mean when you boot the cd, there's an option to check the cd
[05:19] <Darkglow> Hey guys, question about NetworkManager and dbus... in 7.10. Why is dhcdbd starting with S24 ? This means that dhclient will not run before S24, but windbind, ntp for example start at S20 and S23. I don't understand why a service depending on network starts before network interface ?!
[05:19] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, okay, done.
[05:19] <bazhang> bluebaby: ah well then it will tough to get the wifi working right? ;]
[05:19] <MyNick> MrSteve: I have compaq b1914 laptop
[05:20] <BhaalWK> nickrud: No, strangely I havent...  But will do
[05:20] <BhaalWK> I should have thought of that...
[05:20] <nickrud> BhaalWK also, do an md5sum check of the downloaded iso if the burn check fails, make sure you got a quality download
[05:20] <bluebaby> bazhang, well, no. The problem is with the computer not working together with the PCI card.
[05:20] <bazhang> aaearon: there is no real advantage to 64 bit unless you have more than 4GB of ram, are going to some heavy video compositing or like to live without youtube
[05:21] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, click the "back" button in the bottom left corner.. now push ctrl+alt then the left arrow key
[05:21] <BhaalWK> Its odd, sometimes people say 'ignorance is bliss' but it really doesnt have many uses...
[05:21] <BhaalWK> nickrud: I did get it off the US mirror
[05:21] <aaearon> cant live without youtube, you sold me on 32bit bazhang :p
[05:21] <Odd-rationale> hello! is it possible to connect to a wireless wpa network via the command line?
[05:21] <nickrud> BhaalWK not the issue, but more a chance of a hiccup in the download itself. Happens now and again
[05:21] <captain> hey guys, im trying to figure out why everytime i set my laptop screen contrast to low ..after like 3 minutes or so it shoots to bright again ...
[05:21] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, it says "Desktop 1."
[05:21] <bazhang> aaearon: I have a 32bit ubuntu running on a duocore 2 and it is fine ;]
[05:21] <Johnny_5> what the hecks goin' on in freenode?
[05:21] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, "Desk 1," that is.
[05:22] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, did you get a rotating cube?
[05:22] <dreamor> bazhang: Why would you have to live without youtube?
[05:22] <BhaalWK> nickrud: True, k3b verified the checksum and said it was okey if that counts...
[05:22] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, no, I only have one desktop now.
[05:22] <bazhang> bluebaby: you seem to know what the problem is..is that right?
[05:22] <nickrud> !md5 | BhaalWK try this
[05:22] <bazhang> dreamor: flash is sometimes a bear to get going with 64 bit
[05:22] <ubotu> BhaalWK try this: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:22] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, you mean the representation in the bottom right  corner  of the screen?
[05:23] <bluebaby> bazhang, the problem is not with the router. it's with my pc not working with any wireless card. That is the extent of my knowledge of the problem.
[05:23] <nickrud> BhaalWK k3b seems to say it's a god burn, so next step is to check the source
[05:23] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, ctrl + alt + left makes a small square pop up that says "Desk 1" with the Xchat icon in it.
[05:23] <bluebaby>  bazhang, i followed the troubleshooting steps on ubuntu Help (offline)
[05:23] <dreamor> bazhang: Not so much these days.  Last few distros installed it with eaze
[05:23] <captain> im trying to figure out how to stop my laptop screen brightness to go to bright after 3 minutes of setting the contrast to low... any ideas ??
[05:23] <BhaalWK> nickrud: k3b verified the ISO before I burnt it I mean, but I will verify it against an online md5
[05:23] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, did I say to change the vertical?  sorry I ment horizontal the first line.. change it to 4 and vertical to 1
[05:23] <bluebaby> I do NOT understand. How come in March 2008, when I installed the Dlink wireless PCI card, the wireless internet just worked, but after I removed the card, and then put it back in, it doesn't work anymore.
[05:23] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, oh, okay. Let me try that.
[05:24] <dreamor> Hell this beta prompted me to install it from Firefox
[05:24] <bazhang> bluebaby: if you wish to listen to my advice that is okay; if you have different ideas or wish others advice that is okay is well; what does lspci say about that card in the terminal (just the one line)
[05:24] <bluebaby> bazhang, please hold. i'll do it now. 8-)
[05:24] <bazhang> hardy dreamor?
[05:24] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, ctrl + alt + left gives four square now instead of one.
[05:24] <dreamor> bazhang: ye[
[05:24] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, I think it's because I don't have "Custom" enabled.
[05:25] <MrSteve> like medotate, there will be keys
[05:25] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, enable custome
[05:25] <MrSteve> to use
[05:25] <bazhang> dreamor: but he was asking about gutsy ;]
[05:25] <captain> im trying to figure out how to stop my laptop screen brightness to go to bright after 3 minutes of setting the contrast to low... any ideas ??
[05:25] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, enabling custom takes away my title bars.
[05:25] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, in a termial type compiz --replace
[05:26] <ogre> xchat-gnome and xchat crash on my system when I open them I get "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" any suggestions on how to fix this?
[05:26] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, okay, I did that.
[05:26] <dreamor> bazhang: ah.  Never ran Gutsy.  It was easy enough in fedora and Opensuse though
[05:26] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: best to head to #compiz-fusion if you dont get better advice here
[05:26] <aaearon> why is the 64bit version named amd64
[05:26] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Okay, I'll go there, too.
[05:26] <bazhang> dreamor: heresy! and offtopic to boot ;]
[05:26] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, use ctrl+alt and then use the left mouse button and drag on  the screen and see what happens
[05:26] <oc80z> How can one SFTP to a server that runs SSH on A differnet Port than 22?
[05:27] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, I don't have custom enabled anymore.
[05:27] <joetheodd__> What's the off-topic channel again?
[05:27] <bazhang> !ot | joetheodd__
[05:27] <ubotu> joetheodd__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:27] <Newbuntu2> !webcam
[05:27] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:27] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, like bazhang said. head over to the other channel  and they'll get yo set.. probably faster than  I can
[05:27] <MrSteve> oc80z Putty does it in winders
[05:27] <genii> oc80z: use -o -p <port#>
[05:27] <joetheodd__> thank you bazhang
[05:27] <oc80z> ok
[05:28] <oc80z> what about in flashfxp?
[05:28] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, okay, thanks.
[05:28] <dreamor> bazhang: Hehe.  I'm a long time user of various distros of Linux and I just recently decided to try out Ubuntu to find out why it's so popular.
[05:28] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, I'll worry about Compiz later.
[05:28] <unop> oc80z, flashxp is a windows program right?
[05:28] <oc80z> Yeah
[05:28] <captain> hey guys any one knows how i can stop my screen contrast from changing to bright everytime i set it to low....
[05:28] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, my sound isn't working properly.
[05:28] <genii> oc80z: No idea, don't use it
[05:28] <oc80z> Hrm ok
[05:28] <unop> oc80z, we dont support windows programs in here, you should know  :)
[05:28] <oc80z> yeah duh
[05:28] <dreamor> I'm actually still kind of wandering why it's so popular, but I'm going to run it for a few months.
[05:28] <oc80z> my-b
[05:28] <MrSteve> I was once in dire need, and I found good winders assist on dalnet
[05:29] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, I get sound out of both my speakers and the headphones.
[05:29] <oc80z> did he leave u a leg?
[05:29] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, sorry not good with that one.
[05:29] <Kl4m> As far as I know, it's popular because of easier install and huge support (forums and here in IRC)
[05:29] <oc80z> heh.
[05:29] <MrSteve> yah
[05:29] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, no problem.
[05:29] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, thanks for your help.
[05:29] <ChaosTheory> bazhang, are you busy?
[05:29] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, np..
[05:29] <dreamor> kl4m: That has not been my experience so far.
[05:30] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: what is the precise sound problem you are having; I am not very good at it but if you layout the info clearly others can help you perhaps
[05:30] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I get sound out of both my speakers and my headphones.
[05:30] <MrSteve> I think I got all I need.. and will back up then defrag, then try to partition off to install a dual boot.. this weekend.  Look for me then, or Under net
[05:30] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: In other words, plugging in the headphones doesn't mute the speakers.
[05:30] <MrSteve> good folks!  laterz
[05:31] <bluebaby> bazhang, lspci has this to say re: card: 01:06.0 Ethernet Controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03)
[05:31] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: how about turning down the sound on the speakers manually?
[05:31] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: That also turns down the volume on my headphones.
[05:31] <bazhang> bluebaby: and what does ifconfig show? just eth0 and lo?
[05:32] <bluebaby> bazhang, yes, just eth0 and lo. By the way, just to let you know. when I had my wireless card working last month, I also remember seeing ath0.
[05:32] <sayap_ikarus> dddddddd
[05:32] <bazhang> not here please sayap_ikarus
[05:32] <nickrud> sayap_ikarus please don't
[05:33] <genii> sayap_ikarus: Please just state your question regarding ubuntu if you indeed have one
[05:33] <lumgwada> Does anyone know how to add highlights for regexp matches on a tail -f call ?
[05:33] <ogre> how do i completely remove xchat and all its settings? i managed to bork it and it crashes whilst opening
[05:33] <Radit> how do i start the gdm from terminal?
[05:34] <bazhang> ogre: what errors when launching it from terminal
[05:34] <captain> need to figure out how to stop screen contrast from shooting up to bright everytime i set it to low ...? anyone ?
[05:34] <Radit> how do i start the gdm from terminal?
[05:34] <dreamor> ogre: just remove the .xchat2 directory from you home
[05:34] <nickrud> lumgwada you might want to look into multitail, it does color
[05:35] <socres> hi, has anyone usplash with 1280x800 resolution get working?
[05:35] <genii> Radit: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start               or if from safe boot mode of single user, just: telinit 2
[05:35] <lumgwada> nickrud: cheers
[05:35] <dreamor> ogre: though I'ld just rename it incase I wanted anything out of it
[05:35] <ogre> bazhang:  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[05:35] <bazhang> ogre and what about dreamor's suggestion?
[05:35] <bluebaby> bazhang, did you see my message re: your question about ifconfig?
[05:35] <Radit> genii, thank you :-)
[05:36] <Slynderdale> WHen I try to ugrade to Ubuntu 8.04 I get this error "could not calculate upgrade"
[05:36] <bazhang> bluebaby: atheros eh? are there restricted drivers for that?
[05:36] <captain> bazhang, any idea how to top contrast from automatically changing... i set to low but goes back to bright after some time.
[05:36] <bazhang> Slynderdale: #ubuntu+1 please
[05:36] <ogre> bazhang:  i dont have anything i need it for
[05:36] <nickrud> socres look at /etc/usplash.conf , make sure it's set to the right resolution
[05:36] <genii> Radit: np
[05:36] <luciddream> i have the gutsy gibbon .iso downloaded on my winxp box here and just realized my CD burner is dead.  i have another PC that I want to install ubuntu on.  I have a 16gb USB drive.  would it be possible to put the .iso on it and install from the USB somehow?
[05:37] <Kl4m> ogre: most xchat2 configuration is in the .xchat2 directory in your home. If you remove it, you'll go back to the default config
[05:37] <nickrud> !install | luciddream lots of methods here, you'll probably find one that will work for you
[05:37] <ubotu> luciddream lots of methods here, you'll probably find one that will work for you: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[05:37] <bazhang> luciddream: sure; or you could unetbootin
[05:37] <ogre> dreamor:  oh thanks. its hard to tell when someone highlights me in stupid pidgin-irc
[05:38] <socres> yes ive set it to 1280x800 and make a splash with this resolution, when i shutdown this splash is shown correctly but when im booting a stretched version (think 800x600) is shown
[05:38] <bluebaby> bazhang, oh, sorry to confuse you. that wireless card that used to work did use atheros. But the wireless card that's inside my computer now... I don't know if it's atheros
[05:38] <anparks> hey ive got some serious problems going on here and i can't track it down or retrace my steps fully. when i load any terminal (xterm, aterm, gnome-terminal) it blinks on in a window and then closes immediately. any ideas?
[05:38] <bazhang> bluebaby: why replace it if it worked?
[05:38] <nickrud> socres hm, not sure why that would happen (I don't like splash screens, anyway)
[05:38] <unop> lumgwada, tail -f file | grep -E --colour=always "regexp"
[05:39] <|thunder> is hardy out yet ?
[05:39] <unop> lumgwada, but that only includes matching lines in the output .. it might not be what you want
[05:39] <Blaenk> when does hardy come out? 22 days but what day of the month
[05:39] <captain> how to stop contrast from changing automatically ?...
[05:39] <bazhang> |thunder: in #ubuntu+1 the beta is yes
[05:39] <Blaenk> 24?
[05:39] <socres> on the web i dont find anything working :(
[05:39] <Blaenk> or 23rd
[05:39] <captain> screen brightness i mean.
[05:39] <bazhang> Blaenk: 24th
[05:39] <bluebaby> bazhang, i had to.
[05:39] <Blaenk> thanks bazhang
[05:39] <bluebaby> bazhang, kinda long story.
[05:39] <nickrud> unop you should check out multitail, I messed with it for a while once
[05:39] <socres> is it possible to use the splashthing from suse?
[05:40] <bluebaby> bazhang, if we could make this current wireless card work, that would be great.
[05:40] <unop> nickrud, what advantage does multitail have over tail ? out of curiosity
[05:40] <socres> id whohld like it more, because of the verbose mode
[05:40] <nickrud> unop colorization, splitting the screen with ncurses, just more geeky fun
[05:40] <bluebaby> bazhang, to see a pic of the wireless card in my computer now, please see http://snipurl.com/23aff
[05:41] <bluebaby> bazhang, anyway, when i put back the original wireless card, ubuntu comp would'nt work with it.
[05:41] <lumgwada> unop: yeah tried that ... I need the non matching lines as well. cheers
[05:41] <bluebaby> this is how i've concluded that the problem is not with the wireless card, but with the ubuntu computer.
[05:41] <anparks> and why does trying to reinstall a terminal ask me to remove nearly every core package on my system?
[05:43] <ice109> does anyone know how i can get more character width in my terminal ?
[05:43] <ice109> err more characters than 80
[05:43] <bazhang> lsmod | grep rtl try that in the terminal bluebaby
[05:44] <T1m0thy> ice109, resize it? :S
[05:44] <ice109> nope
[05:44] <ice109> 80 character limit
[05:44] <MukiEX> Is there a way to force mogrify to resize to a certain resolution, even if it'll stretch an image?
[05:44] <bluebaby> bazhang, lsmod | grep rtl gives nothing.
[05:44] <gawwdotnet> ice109, You want a framebuffer terminal
[05:44] <chiefwigms> another question - i just reinstalled ubuntu - i can't mount any usb sticks or my other windows partition - it just says "invalid mount option"
[05:44] <ice109> gawwdotnet i don't know what that means
[05:45] <bazhang> bluebaby: the problem is with the drivers not being released not with ubuntu--trying to help but if you have given up ah well then
[05:45] <gawwdotnet> ice109,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90689
[05:45] <bluebaby> bazhang, i myself haven't given up. Not sure I understand what your last message means
[05:45] <ice109> thatnks
[05:46] <captain> can anyone help me stop my screen brightness from changing automatically when setting it to low..
[05:46] <bazhang> bluebaby: this is gutsy? you say the problem is with ubuntu and that is simply incorrect; the real villain is the company (wireless) not releasing their drivers
[05:46] <Y-Town> captain: disable in BIOS?
[05:46] <dreamor> KVM question... I have kvm lib-virt qemu and the machine manager installed.  When I go to create a virtual machine parvirtualization is greyed out.  Any ideas?
[05:47] <captain> newbie ..
[05:47] <captain> you mean its a setting in my bios
[05:47] <bluebaby> bazhang, I'm not sure whether I've explained the story well. On March 1st, I installed a DLink wireless card. I turned on computer. Ubuntu made Wireless interent worked. On March 31st, I removed dlink wireless card and put in a different wireless pci card. I then couldn't get any internet. I put back same model of Dlink wireless card back into the comp, expecting wireless internet to work, but it doesn't anymore. And yes, it's gutsy.
[05:47] <Y-Town> captain: yo9u should be able to turn that off in bios
[05:47] <alan_m> captain, could be
[05:47] <captain> y-town, i set it to low contrast in gutsy...then after 3 minutes it shoots right up to bright .
[05:48] <dreamor> captain: are you setting it to low in your monitor or graphics driver?
[05:48] <captain> well its a laptop ..so im hitting the FN key and lowering it.
[05:48] <harsh1> Video playback in ubuntu 7.10 is slow, I can eloborate the issue if anyone responds to my message?
[05:49] <bazhang> bluebaby: sounds like you did something to your install; how about booting from a livecd and see if that catches it; if it does then we can eliminate several candidates
[05:49] <ChaosTheory> . . .
[05:49] <ChaosTheory> I just restarted and I lost my resolution settings.
[05:50] <ChaosTheory> And, . . . my volume is totally messed up?
[05:50] <captain> any ideas dreamor, ytown or alan ?
[05:50] <bazhang> bluebaby: if the livecd does not pick it up then here are the linux drivers for that card: http://www.services.assmann.com/download/adm/support-driver-2/DN-7006GS_driver_linux_v1027_20071221.zip
[05:51] <Y-Town> captain: I would disable the sensor in the bios and then set your brightness after reboot
[05:51] <bluebaby> bazhang, i made a Xubuntu 8.04 beta CD for another computer, and i tried booting live from that, but it still couldn't recognize wireless connection.
[05:51] <ChaosTheory> If I try to open "volume control," it says "No volume control Gstreamer plugins and/or devices were found."
[05:51] <bazhang> bluebaby: you said this was gutsy? #ubuntu+1 for hardy thanks
[05:52] <captain> not sure if there is that option in my bios last time i checked its a pretty simple bios not lots of options .. but i will try it and i'll be back
[05:52] <bluebaby> bazhang, thanks for link. is the link for my current wireless card (as in http://snipurl.com/23aff )
[05:52] <bluebaby> bazhang, yes, my computer is currently on GUTsy.
[05:52] <bluebaby> bazhang,  But the live CD i tried tonight was hardy.
[05:52] <CloudF1> ChaosTheory: I had a similar issue with the sound and fixed that by going to Sound under preferences, and under the category devices changing autodected to one of the other options, followed by a reboot
[05:52] <quail> hi all, can anyone tell me if they have a problem with high system load when coming out of suspend and hibernate on there laptop?
[05:53] <bazhang> bluebaby: well I have given you several options: boot from the Gutsy livecd and see if that picks it up, install the linux drivers yourself, or go to #ubuntu+1 and discuss the xubuntu issue there
[05:54] <bluebaby> bazhang, yes, re: linux drivers: is that for wireless card in http://snipurl.com/23aff ?
[05:55] <nuevonavegante> hola
[05:56] <ChaosTheory> I'm starting to get a bit fed up with Ubuntu. :(
[05:56] <danuel> Hi all
[05:56] <ports-FF> hey
[05:56] <danuel> I am getting an HP laptop, pavilioin dv6700t, has anyone installed ubuntu on this yet?
[05:57] <ports-FF> im using ubuntu 7.04 in vmware player.. and i just installed VirtualBox.... do i need to reboot before itll show up in Applications?
[05:57] <nickrud> !laptop | danuel
[05:57] <ubotu> danuel: Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[05:57] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Are you here?
[05:57] <danuel> yes laptop.
[05:57] <danuel> thanks nickrud
[05:57] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: Are you here?
[05:58] <nickrud> ports-FF that sound really crazy, but    killall gnome-panel    will restart the panel and update the menus
[05:58] <zsiavash> when  it try to install java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin on recovery mode by command "sudo sh" i get this error "java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin: 1 syntax error "(" unexpected "
[05:59] <ports-FF> ok tht was crazy but it worked
[05:59] <ports-FF> nickrud:  is there a good guide to help set up a vista & ubuntu dual boot?
[05:59] <nickrud> ports-FF no, the rebuilding of the menus is normal (probably would have synced up without) the vbox inside vmware is what is insane :)
[06:00] <nickrud> !dualboot | ports-FF
[06:00] <ubotu> ports-FF: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:00] <quail> zsiavash: have you tried   sudo ./java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin
[06:00] <unop> lumgwada, if you are looking for an alternative - tail -f file | perl -ne 's/(regex)/\033[1;31m$1\033[0m/g; print'
[06:00] <ports-FF> nickrud:  plenty of resources to waste while testing it :)  2gb of ram
[06:01] <danuel> great. thanks nickrud
[06:01] <nickrud> sys admins and their perl
[06:01] <genii> zsiavash: Firstly if you're in recovery mode, sudo is unneccesary as you are logged on in sungle user (root) as default. Secondly why do you feel it neccesary to use recovery mode to install this application? Thirdly likely it needs bash instead of default dash which /bin/sh is linked to
[06:01] <zsiavash> quial:sudo ./java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin doesnt work says command not fond
[06:01] <unop> nickrud, hmm yep, what would the internet do without those two? :)
[06:02] <lumgwada> unop: cool thanks I'll try that
[06:02] <ports-FF> nickrud:  i just wanted to see what virtualbox was like without having to install ubuntu on my system... im curious about its seamless operation
[06:02] <nickrud> ports-FF if it works, try installing vmware inside it ;)
[06:03] <ports-FF> nickrud:  out of sheer boredom... maybe lol
[06:03] <captain> y-town ..still here ?
[06:03] <ports-FF> ok time to kill this
[06:03] <bazhang> bluebaby: you need to try the gutsy livecd as Hardy is still beta
[06:03] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: yeah, what's the issue?
[06:04] <quail> zsiavash: it might be cause your trying to install it from recovery mode?
[06:04] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: The resolution is back to the way it was.
[06:04] <MikeMiller_> hi
[06:04] <zsiavash> genii: by using bash pops this error cant not execute binary file
[06:04] <quail> zsiavash: oh you don't need sudo in recovery mode cause you are already root
[06:04] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: how about a simple sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[06:05] <MikeMiller_> sup ppl
[06:05] <Y-Town> captain: yes
[06:05] <quail> zsiavash: chmod +x java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin
[06:05] <ports> i always forget how full this room is
[06:05] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I've tried this already. . .
[06:05] <MikeMiller_> I know
[06:05] <MikeMiller_> whoa creating apps?
[06:05] <genius> Where does network manager store it's config? I want to delete old entry from wireless networks. It connects to my old network that is barely visible instead of connecting to new network with 100% signal...
[06:05] <MikeMiller_> who**
[06:05] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: what caused it to go back
[06:05] <zsiavash> quail: i think so but i have to because i need it to use in server
[06:05] <genii> zsiavash: Just:  ./filename
[06:06] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I restarted the computer to fix something with the sound (it actually totally messed up the sound). =|
[06:06] <genii> bin usually = binary (executable)
[06:06] <iositd> ChaosTheory, you fixed the network issue?
[06:06] <MikeMiller_> I know javascript
[06:06] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Yes.
[06:06] <iositd> ChaosTheory, good to hear
[06:06] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Hi. ^_^
[06:06] <bluebaby> bazhang, how do i install the drivers?
[06:06] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Ubuntu is making me cry. T_T
[06:06] <iositd> ChaosTheory, why :(
[06:06] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: then start from scratch; make sure the restricted drivers are enabled, etc followed by a restart--this is gutsy ubuntu, or ubuntu based?
[06:07] <genius> Please help a little girl...
[06:07] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Lots of problems. =|
[06:07] <zsiavash> genii: command not found
[06:07] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I can't access the restricted package manager. . .
[06:07] <iositd> ChaosTheory, give me an overview then
[06:07] <iositd> ChaosTheory, errors?
[06:08] <wolfgang> hi
[06:08] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 here is the cli way genius
[06:08] <ChaosTheory> iositd: My screen resolution isn't fixed yet.
[06:08] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: is this gutsy ubuntu or gutsy linuxmint? and what do you mean cannot access
[06:08] <ChaosTheory> iositd: My sound is messed up now (worse than before).
[06:08] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I need to install something to use it. One second.
[06:08] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: This is GG.
[06:09] <genius> bazhang: i want to use network manager. I just want to clean it's config to make it forget a wireless router
[06:09] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: please pastebin your sources.list
[06:09] <iositd> ChaosTheory, the screen resolution is due to not having restricted drivers.
[06:09] <ChaosTheory> iositd: I enabled the restricted drivers and I restarted for something and now it's back to normal.
[06:09] <bluebaby> bazhang, i have to leave now. it's getting late. thanks for your help.
[06:09] <ChaosTheory> iositd: After I enabled the restricted drivers, it worked.
[06:09] <genii> zsiavash: substitute for "./filename"  ./java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin                      if you are in same directory the file is in. Otherwise just put something more like /the/path/to/file/java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin   where you put the actal path of course
[06:10] <iositd> ChaosTheory, good
[06:10] <bazhang> bluebaby we will be here tomorrow ;]
[06:10] <iositd> ChaosTheory, explain sound screwed up?
[06:10] <knifepoint> hey can anyone help me im trying to log into my uni wireless and i need to find a certificate file for Thawte Premium Server CA and Thawte Server CA to add to network manager
[06:10] <ChaosTheory> iositd: No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[06:11] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Okay, I have two things in my Restricted Drivers Manager -- both are enabled but neither are in use.
[06:11] <iositd> ChaosTheory, i c. you might have to compile alsa for that
[06:11] <iositd> ChaosTheory, which are enabled?
[06:11] <ChaosTheory> iositd: How do I do that?
[06:11] <iositd> ChaosTheory, we'll come to that later
[06:11] <bazhang> genius: either way you have to do cli; why not go all the way into terminal-land ;]
[06:12] <iositd> ChaosTheory, first answer bazhang who asked for your sources.list :-)
[06:12] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Lucent/Agere linmodem controller driver and NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (latest cards).
[06:12] <iositd> bazhang, cli all the way :-)
[06:12] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: please pastebin them
[06:12] <ChaosTheory> iositd: How do I get my sources.list?
[06:12] <bazhang> iositd: ;]
[06:12] <iositd> ChaosTheory, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:13] <bazhang> !paste | ChaosTheory
[06:13] <ubotu> ChaosTheory: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[06:13] <code_kill> do you guys know how to use ubuntu tweak?
[06:13] <benanzo> Can I configure SSH so I have to authenticate with *both* password and key instead of one or the other?
[06:13] <ChaosTheory> http://pastebin.com/d6cb07b4
[06:13] <genius> bazhang: here is my answer http://live.gnome.org/DarrenAlbers/NetworkManagerFAQ#head-bef25c7fff6853c702b745626a9b6fb40058f0e4
[06:13] <knifepoint> anyone have any idea how to connect to a thwate approved wireless network?
[06:14] <iositd> benanzo, yes, set a password on the key that you use. ssh-keygen -t dsa
[06:14] <eros> join #japan
[06:14] <ChaosTheory> iositd, bazhang: http://pastebin.com/d6cb07b4
[06:14] <DOOM_NX> good morning
[06:14] <benanzo> iositd: yes I did that but I want to authenticate the user account with a password as well, not just the key's password
[06:15] <captain> hey guys any idea why my main login screen when booting up shows as 800 x 600 then changes to normal resolution when logged in .. ?
[06:15] <zsiavash> genii: "./java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin"  it is  in the same directory but wat is your idea about that when i try tu install this to the graphic environment mode it works but when i dont have graphic it doesnt work
[06:15] <code_kill> hey doom
[06:15] <DOOM_NX> i got a question related to virtual box... really simple... can anyone help me?
[06:15] <iositd> benanzo, the whole point of key auth is not using a password
[06:15] <bazhang> code_kill: fairly self-explanatory; install it and run it
[06:15] <code_kill> --------> (raises hand and symbols the wave)
[06:15] <iositd> DOOM_NX, this has beent old before to you ==> ask the question
[06:15] <code_kill> oh..
[06:16] <code_kill> lol
[06:16] <code_kill> didnt see it under system tools.
[06:16] <code_kill> didnt know it was put there
[06:16] <code_kill> lol
[06:16] <iositd> ChaosTheory, i can see you did follow my suggestion, however you forgot a few. line 6, 8,13,15
[06:16] <bazhang> easy on that enter key code_kill ;]
[06:16] <captain> hey guys any idea why my main login screen when booting up shows as 800 x 600 then changes to normal resolution when logged in .. ?
[06:16] <DOOM_NX> well, i'm trying to make an "Internal Network" between Ubuntu (Host) and WinXP SP2. I just don't know what to put in "Network name" at VB Network Settings tab...
[06:16] <iositd> ChaosTheory, so ==> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and edit those lines =)
[06:17] <captain> i also have a big creen with a Nvdia logo showing up before the login screen
[06:17] <captain> screen*
[06:17] <genii> zsiavash: Then obviously it's not an application which runs normally in a terminal but needs X to run. Use alt-f2 then put the /path/filename to run it in gui then. If it needs admin privelege prepend with gksu or gksudo     etc etc
[06:17] <iositd> DOOM_NX, that's a good one. I had a guide for that. A sec
[06:17] <bazhang> captain: how did you install the drivers?
[06:17] <aubade> What command actually starts gnome?
[06:17] <captain> restricted drivers nvidia
[06:18] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Okay, I saved.
[06:18] <iositd> DOOM_NX, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346185
[06:18] <DOOM_NX> just to mention, internet works through "NAT" connection...
[06:18] <benanzo> Yes but I'd like to password protect the key + require valid user password -- that way I can just leave my private key on my work machine and not worry about it being abused.  They'd have to crack the key pass as well as my user pass.
[06:18] <iositd> ChaosTheory, then update :-)
[06:18] <aubade> Just 'gnome-session'? Rather use startx w/ .xinitrc than GDM since it's a single-user box.
[06:18] <DOOM_NX> thanks, let me check
[06:18] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Update?
[06:18] <iositd> ChaosTheory, sudo apt-get update
[06:18] <iositd> ChaosTheory, BUT ONLY if you have internet on it now
[06:18] <kambei> aubade: That should do it.
[06:18] <captain> bazhang, nvidia restricted drivers.
[06:18] <bazhang> captain: so the splash screen is lower res but the desktop works perfectly fine? is that the gist of it?
[06:18] <ChaosTheory> iositd: I'm talking to you from the laptop.
[06:18] <eros> just make your key 10 digits
[06:18] <captain> yup thats right baz
[06:18] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Okay, it updated.
[06:19] <iositd> ChaosTheory, good. a sec
[06:19] <captain> it wasnt like this before . i fiddled around with the "screens and graphics" section..
[06:19] <iositd> ChaosTheory, for easy use, i'll write you a script and tell you how to run it
[06:19] <aubade> Aye, worked. Forgot how quick gnome can be.
[06:19] <ether_c> hi
[06:19] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Run what? =D
[06:19] <zsiavash> genii:your right but as using in server i dont have gui so i need java enterprise "glassfish_javaee" to run in server then server apps can run on it
[06:20] <bazhang> captain: can you un-fiddle what you fiddled?
[06:20] <iositd> ChaosTheory, the script that i'm writing right nwo
[06:20] <benanzo> I guess I could just make an ultra limited user on my machine which the key will get into, then 'su me' to get regular user.  that will do basically what I want.
[06:20] <Y-Town> captain: did you get the brightness fixed?
[06:20] <ChaosTheory> iositd: That does what?
[06:20] <genii> aubade: Starting gnome from startx usually involves exec gnome-session
[06:20] <kambei> aubade: You could also just have GDM automatically log your (single) user in.
[06:20] <iositd> ChaosTheory, hopefully fix your sound
[06:20] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Okay, I see.
[06:20] <captain> well its been more than 3 mins now ytown ..it didnt change ... so i guess it fixed itself ..
[06:20] <DOOM_NX> iositd, i think this one is reffereing to "Host Interface Network"...
[06:20] <ether_c> can someone do a quick test of compiz on ubuntu for me? Press alt+shift+up to scale the windows, then try it using shift+alt+up (different order) to see if you get the same result?
[06:20] <ChaosTheory> iositd: It says there are 129 updates available. . .
[06:21] <iositd> ChaosTheory, while you update i'll write your script then
[06:21] <iositd> DOOM_NX, yes
[06:21] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Why are there so many updates?
[06:21] <benanzo> What is the most limited user I can create and still be able to ssh to it and exec 'su' so I can change users (but NOT to root) ??
[06:21] <DOOM_NX> hmmm i need the setting for "Internal Network" option
[06:21] <iositd> ChaosTheory, because you haven't updated properly last night. You forgot the 2 sources that had the most updates.
[06:21] <captain> Bazhang, im not sure what i changed . i think the screen model ... its on generic 1440 x 900 now ...
[06:21] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Oh.
[06:21] <benanzo> I tried making a user with their shell 'rbash' but that's easy to get out of just by execing 'bash'
[06:22] <benanzo> How do I fix that?
[06:22] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Was it last night?
[06:22] <ChaosTheory> iositd: I've lost track of time. o_O
[06:22] <iositd> ChaosTheory, for me it was, i just woke up
[06:22] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Everything has become a continuous blur of Ubuntu. =_=
[06:22] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Oh, it's well past midnight here.
[06:23] <genii> zsiavash: Glassfish is a java development kit. It doesn't have anything to do with running the application you create with it on your server.
[06:23] <ether_c> can someone do a quick test of compiz on ubuntu for me? Press alt+shift+up to scale the windows, then try it using shift+alt+up (different order) to see if you get the same result?
[06:23] <chrislabeard> Hey guys
[06:24] <benanzo> same result on Hardy
[06:24] <ether_c> weird, thanks
[06:24] <chrislabeard> whats the command to run a program after you install it in terminal
[06:24] <benanzo> np
[06:24] <yuri_> is there a screen managemen option available that will allow an app to not be overlapped when i maximize a window?
[06:24] <benanzo> chrislabeard: what program?
[06:24] <albech> is there a nice tool for deleting files older than 30 days? Trying to find a way to clear mails from a quarantine folder with a cron job, or can this be done through the mta or imap server?
[06:25] <chrislabeard> cssed
[06:25] <zsiavash> genii: so what servers should do when want an java  aplication servers run on them
[06:25] <bluefoxx> are there any general CAD programs anyone can reccomend to me?
[06:25] <erichj> cssed is the command, but it should show up in your programming menu under applications
[06:25] <benanzo> Does it not appear in the menu?  it should
[06:25] <benanzo> otherwise just run 'cssed' in the term
[06:25] <usuario> dodo
[06:25] <chrislabeard> ok
[06:26] <benanzo> thats a really good app btw
[06:26] <benanzo> use it all the time
[06:26] <usuario> quero fuder
[06:26] <chrislabeard> awewsome
[06:26] <genii> zsiavash: tomcat for instance
[06:26] <chrislabeard> whats the difference between ubuntu terminal and mac osx terminal
[06:26] <DOOM_NX> iositd: please take a look: http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1702/screenshotwinxpsettingsui4.png
[06:26] <benanzo> Ubuntu's is better
[06:26] <erichj> chrislabeard, about $2000
[06:26] <benanzo> many more options but really for power-users
[06:26] <Demone> hey all, not used to ubuntu, attempting to install kde4base and kde4base-dev and getting not founds for the qt4 packages
[06:27] <chrislabeard> erichj: i know but i can do the same stuff in both terminals
[06:27] <bluefoxx> anyone?
[06:27] <benanzo> both use the 'bash' shell (or maybe OS X uses zsh?"
[06:27] <erichj> os x uses bash
[06:27] <Demone> osx uses bash
[06:27] <iositd> DOOM_NX, i only use host only networking myself, so can't help there
[06:27] <DOOM_NX> i see
[06:27] <chrislabeard> yeah its bash
[06:27] <DOOM_NX> thanks a lot though
[06:27] <DOOM_NX> anyone else might have an idea what do i fill in here: http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1702/screenshotwinxpsettingsui4.png?
[06:27] <SkinnYPupp> bluefox: qcad
[06:28] <luciddream> hi, I'm trying to follow the steps here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick to install linux from a USB stick since my CD burner is broken.  I have changed my BIOS so the first boot device is "USB FDD" but grub keeps booting me into my old dapper installation instead of the new gutsy CD.  what do I do?
[06:28] <bluefoxx> SkinnYPupp: kk, will look it up
[06:28] <bazhang> luciddream: set it in the bios to boot from usb stick if it allows it
[06:28] <SkinnYPupp> bluefox: synergy by weber has a cam backend
[06:29] <luciddream> bazhang: I thought I had done that but it just keeps booting into my old dapper installation
[06:29] <bazhang> luciddream: you may need to hold down esc key to make it stick iirc
[06:29] <zsiavash> genii:thanks alot your my hero
[06:30] <bazhang> luciddream: or just unetbootin which is a new way to do it from within dapper
[06:30] <SkinnYPupp> bluefox: Whats your useage ?
[06:30] <luciddream> bazhang: holding down esc brings me into the GRUB menu
[06:30] <lkthomas_> hey guys
[06:30] <genii> zsiavash: Best luck with your server
[06:30] <genii> I'm out
[06:30] <lkthomas_> where can I find a full featured ffmpeg ?
[06:32] <iositd> ChaosTheory, copy this script into an empty file ==> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61987/
[06:32] <ChaosTheory> iositd: How do I get an empty file? =D
[06:33] <acxty> HI guys, I know this is not the correct place for asking this, but does someone had work with kannel?
[06:33] <iositd> ChaosTheory, alright, in terminal type ==> gedit sound.sh
[06:34] <anteaya> when i want a program to execute upon reboot, what file do I modify?
[06:34] <bazhang> luciddream: you could wait a couple of weeks and do a LTS to LTS one step upgrade via the net also
[06:34] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Yes. Then?
[06:34] <iositd> ChaosTheory, copy the text in, save it, then close it. type this ==> chmod +x sound.sh
[06:36] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Okay, done.
[06:36] <bazhang> luciddream: I have to step away for a bit; will help out later if you need it
[06:37] <iositd> ChaosTheory, once you're done updating (don't break it off, just let it continue first) run this ==> ./sound.sh
[06:37] <anteaya> when i want a program to run when i boot up, what file do I modify?
[06:37] <iositd> ChaosTheory, that'll download the latest sources, copy them to the right folder, extract them, compile them, and then remove the unneeded stuff.
[06:37] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Okay, it's about 3/4ths of the way through applying the changes.
[06:37] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Wow, okay. Thanks.
[06:37] <iositd> ChaosTheory, then after that you can execute the script :)
[06:37] <iositd> ChaosTheory, i'm off for breakfast now, we'll talk later k?
[06:37] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Execute the script. . .
[06:37] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Yes, sure.
[06:38] <iositd> ChaosTheory, ==> ./sound.sh (ask bazhang if you're lost)
[06:38] <bazhang> anteaya: why not just save the session with the apps you want open as is
[06:38] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Okay, thanks.
[06:38] <iositd> later folks
[06:38] <bazhang> iositd: haha I'm out for a bit and that is way over my head ;]
[06:38] <bazhang> cya iositd
[06:39] <Co_dJAiL> kkk
[06:39] <anteaya> bazhang: because this is a program for a server that i need to run when the server is rebooted, the server is debian
[06:39] <bazhang> anteaya: and where does ubuntu enter into this? ;]
[06:39] <T1m0thy> lll?
[06:40] <anteaya> because i am on ubuntu and am helping my friend on a debian server
[06:40] <anteaya> i know it can be done, i have seen the conversation in here before
[06:40] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: ./sound .sh gives "bash: ./sound: No such file or directory"
[06:40] <bazhang> anteaya: nice answer but #debian will help more; should be similar to ubuntu, but not the same
[06:40] <SkinnYPupp> !nfs
[06:40] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:40] <anteaya> so are you saying that i can't run a program on my laptop at boot up
[06:41] <anteaya> or you don't know where the file is?
[06:41] <DOOM_NX> guys i think it's really really simple, but i don't know the answer... what do i have to put there: http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1702/screenshotwinxpsettingsui4.png
[06:41] <anteaya> because i would also like to know for myself
[06:41] <bazhang> anteaya: of course you can; but that has a gui and a server does not; and a debian server is a province of their channel
[06:42] <anteaya> okay so know i am asking for myself, where is the file?
[06:42] <anteaya> and my program currently doesn't have a gui
[06:42] <anteaya> just script
[06:42] <bazhang> anteaya: you want to edit it by hand? or want the gui
[06:42] <anteaya> by hand
[06:42] <bazhang> for a debian server? no idea sorry
[06:42] <anteaya> for ubuntu
[06:42] <anteaya> feisty
[06:43] <bazhang> mmkay
[06:43] <anteaya> i would like to run my script at start up
[06:43] <IcemanV9> anteaya: whereis <program>
[06:43] <Exteris> anteaya, put it in /etc/init.d
[06:43] <chrislabeard> what is the best irc client for ubuntu
[06:44] <T1m0thy> chrislabeard, opinion.
[06:44] <SkinnYPupp> DOOM_NX: something like homelan, officelan, hall5bldg1
[06:44] <anteaya> IcemanV9: anita@anitas-computer:~/programming$ whereis remindr.rb
[06:44] <anteaya> remindr:
[06:44] <bazhang> xchat
[06:44] <anteaya> Exteris: thank you
[06:44] <chrislabeard> T1m0thy: opinion
[06:44] <DOOM_NX> SkinnYPupp, does it have to be the same with something?
[06:44] <T1m0thy> Mine?
[06:44] <T1m0thy> XChat
[06:44] <bazhang> or irssi if you want no xserver
[06:45] <IcemanV9> chrislabeard: it depends on your taste ... xchat, xbitch, irssi ....
[06:45] <lkthomas_> Building dependency tree... 50% <--- guys, my apt-get hangs here
[06:45] <chrislabeard> IcemanV9: oh okay
[06:45] <SkinnYPupp> DOOM_NX: If it's your home network no, only if you need to connect into a remote network with a domain server
[06:46] <DOOM_NX> no... i think...
[06:46] <palomer> is there a program to find out the encoding of a string?
[06:46] <IcemanV9> anteaya: slocate <program> OR locate <program>
[06:46] <DOOM_NX> i just want to set the guest os in virtualbox to connect to internet through Internal Network option...
[06:46] <kdorf> quick grub question if someone would help me out.
[06:46] <DOOM_NX> i just don't know what do i have to put in that box
[06:47] <anteaya> IcemanV9: anita@anitas-computer:~/programming$ locate remindr.rb
[06:47] <anteaya> /home/anita/remindr.rb~
[06:47] <anteaya> /home/anita/remindr.rb
[06:47] <kdorf> I moved my windows partition to the end of the drive (it was /dev/sda1, now is /dev/sda5) and the root line in menu.lst read (hd0,0) so I changed it to (hd0,4) but windows won't boot
[06:47] <SkinnYPupp> DOOM_NX: virtual box and vmware server work just fine you can leave that empty if you aren't using domain wide network
[06:47] <kdorf> I believe it says that the device was invalid.
[06:47] <kdorf> then takes me back to grub list.
[06:47] <DOOM_NX> I can't leave that empy i think... it shows a warning
[06:47] <IcemanV9> anteaya: so it resides in your home directory
[06:48] <anteaya> IcemanV9: yes
[06:48] <SkinnYPupp> DOOM_NX: Try mylan or homelan yourlan something
[06:48] <onefunk> hey all, does ubuntu's buy out by the big m include ubuntustudio?
[06:48] <SkinnYPupp> big m ?
[06:49] <T1m0thy> I think he means Microsoft. :|
[06:49] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: My resolution is correct now.
[06:49] <DOOM_NX> let me see
[06:49] <SkinnYPupp> WHAT!?
[06:49] <ChaosTheory> Oh, he said he was leaving.
[06:49] <ChaosTheory> Anyone here who can help with sound?
[06:49] <kindofabuzz> onefunk: MS is not buying ubuntu lol
[06:49] <Slynderdale> Anyone here know of a good svn client?
[06:49] <kraft__> hello
[06:50] <IcemanV9> anteaya: like what Exteris said earlier, you can use /etc/init.d/ for boot-up
[06:50] <anteaya> IcemanV9: thank you i am examining that file now
[06:50] <IcemanV9> anteaya: ok. np
[06:51] <onefunk> kindofabuzz, is this a hoax. there's more if you google it. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/25570