[12:47] <rocky1> anyone know if gnome conduit is still moving along? seems to have stagnated
[12:47] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: pretty much - but you can also just boot into ubuntu from the drive to test it befor you install it
[12:48] <coz_> rocky1,  is that now named  gnome-pilot-confuit ??
[12:48] <coz_> conduit
[12:48] <rocky1> coz_: http://live.gnome.org/Conduit/
[12:48] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: just make sure your pc boots from the flash drive
[12:48] <Pici> coz_: That would likely be the conduit endpoint for pilot (palm).
[12:48] <compdoc> Autoclesis, the iso file on your drive wont do much just sitting there
[12:48] <coz_> Pici,  yeah just realized that after typing it :(
[12:49] <Autoclesis> OH, but I meant, using the pre-existing installer just mentioned
[12:49] <Autoclesis> So the thing called "USB univeral installer" is not necessary if i have ubuntu 11.04 already?
[12:49] <glda19> ho use cairo dock
[12:50] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: hehe - ok - from the start. you can boot into an existing ubuntu - do you have one?
[12:50] <compdoc> the thing is, the installer is going to want to format the drive and create partitions
[12:50] <Osmodivs> Hello. I have a DualBoot, I have Ubuntu 11-04 64bits, I installed nVidia's propietary driver 270.41.19 in Ubuntu, and I want to install the most recent nVidia's driver to Windows XP 32Bits since I can't find the same one as Linux. Is it possible that the  2 different  divers work in the same system
[12:50] <coz_> rocky1,  in the repository I think it is named just  "conduit"  i could be wrong
[12:50] <Autoclesis> I have ubuntu on desktop. I want to put ubuntu on a laptop.
[12:50] <Pici> Osmodivs: Yes.
[12:50] <Autoclesis> I am sorry for being stupid
[12:50] <LAvalanche> Osmodivs: ubuntu doesn't care which driver you use in windows (and the other way around)
[12:51] <ChesterX> hi, i finally decided to upgrade to ubuntu 11.04 (desktop). I would like to know though how you can switch off one of its very annoying features, namely the one that maximizes all the windows when you dock them to one of the screen borders
[12:51] <rocky1> coz_: irregardless... the deb's at their ppa are from 2009 so :(
[12:51] <Autoclesis> I have old ubuntu disk
[12:51] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: no problem. you have to download the new iso on your ubuntu pc
[12:51] <coz_> rocky1,  see if "conduit" is related to gnome-conduit
[12:51] <ChesterX> autoclesis which version is on it?
[12:51] <Autoclesis> okay, I am going to try it. Thank you, LAvalanche
[12:51] <Autoclesis> I think the disk is 9 something
[12:52] <Autoclesis> So I am willing to try the USB method
[12:52] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: then connect your flash drive to the ubuntu pc. startup the usb creation prog from ubuntu
[12:52] <Autoclesis> Right, LAvalanche
[12:52] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: after that just use the drive with your laptop
[12:52] <Autoclesis> I want to install it fully
[12:52] <Autoclesis> I don't want windows
[12:53] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: just follow the instructions. ther is an option for that
[12:53] <Autoclesis> Okay, thanks for the confirmation.
[12:53] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: one thing. your data on the falsh drive will be deleted
[12:53] <Autoclesis> http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-08763DU-12-5-Inch-Ultraportable-Clementine/dp/B004IZN3XE/ref=sr_1_7?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1309869366&sr=1-7
[12:54] <Autoclesis> How about that for compatability?
[12:54] <ZykoticK9> Autoclesis, one heads up regarding USB installs - be SURE that Grub gets installed to the correct drive (this might have to be chosen manually)
[12:54] <Autoclesis> uh oh
[12:54] <Autoclesis> Okay, now I am logging this chat
[12:54] <Autoclesis> lol
[12:54] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: just ask if you have questions durring the process
[12:54] <Autoclesis> Excellent idea
[12:55] <Autoclesis> So the Lenovo Ideapad is compatibile?
[12:55] <Autoclesis> Someone said the microphone driver was the only trouble
[12:56] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: you can always just try ubuntu before installing it with the flash drive - just test it
[12:56] <Autoclesis> Right.
[12:56] <Autoclesis> I want to demonstrate to some iPad people I can have more functionality at the same price
[12:56] <jonatasnona> Autoclesis, take a look http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[12:57] <Autoclesis> Ah, ty jonatasnona
[12:57] <Autoclesis> Yes, I've been looking at HCLs of all kinds. That looks like the best one.
[12:57] <Autoclesis> Okay, TY all.
[12:59] <drdozer1> hi - I've got a problem with jdb2/sda1-8 getting to 95% IO when writing to a table with mysql
[12:59] <Osmodivs> thx, Pici , LAvalanche .
[12:59] <ChesterX> how can i switch off the window maximization (when i dock them to one of the borders)
[13:00] <drdozer1> it seems like jdb2/sda1-8 is stopping mysql writing to disk faster than about 1/2 M/s - does this sound possible?
[13:04] <pentarex1> can anyone tell me how can I install different kernel to 64 bit server 10.04
[13:08] <dyd> guys, if i create a pdf from a webpage it asks for a password as i try to open the file... but i didnt set any. i'm using opera.
[13:09] <astraljava> pgold36: Can't find anything real solid. Perhaps try this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/pm-utils/+bug/475087 Just don't blindly remove, backup first. (the file mentioned in the workaround, I mean)
[13:09] <pgold36> Thanks!
[13:09] <cptklotz> Hi everybody
[13:11] <dyd> ok probably the pdf is damaged the reader thinks it has a pwd
[13:11] <rocky1> does anyone know if it's possible... in Shotwell... to have it re-organize all of the photos in it's library on disk such that it maches the layout of the "Importing Pattern" pattern?
[13:12] <cptklotz> I've been using (X)Ubuntu for some weeks now and I *really* like it
[13:13] <chaddy> good stuff
[13:14] <cptklotz> I think I could use some pointers for configuring the login screen
[13:15] <pgold36> astraljava: Thanks but that file does not exist in my system as it did not for others who commented there.   I just posted my own question so i will wait to see what I get.
[13:15] <mathAgentine> ZykoticK9:  I've using what you've told and I can pass the /var/cache/apt/archives DEBs ¿What are those files?
[13:15] <mathAgentine>           i've tried to use the rdepends command bot despite i use the corect path file (I've double check it) i get "the package can't be found" message.
[13:15] <chaddy> cptklotz: would you like to do without the login screen, or just change the artwork/layout?
[13:15] <Autoclesis> I don't understand why Lenovo wouldn't offer to sell a Thinkpad with Ubuntu preinstalled
[13:15] <Autoclesis> I just asked them
[13:16] <rinkukokiri> can anyone explain why youtube causes my junk to freeze?
[13:16] <rinkukokiri> and it's only with non live video
[13:16] <rinkukokiri> and it's only youtube
[13:17] <Devil_Pumbba> hi ubuntusers
[13:17] <cptklotz> chaddy: I'd like to be able to choose a window manager more easily
[13:17] <drdozer1> I've had a google, and can't find anything useful about problems with jdb2/sda1-8 hogging all the IO
[13:17] <cptklotz> I'm running xubuntu 11.04 and I've added some other desktops (Unity 3D and 2D, Gnome)
[13:17] <cptklotz> But the login screen doesn't display a choice of session types by default
[13:18] <cptklotz> I can misspell my user name and then I'll get to choose the session type among other stuff
[13:18] <Fleck> i use kdm :)
[13:18] <Fleck> theres a nice menu
[13:18] <chaddy> which *dm are you using?
[13:18] <chaddy> probably xdm?
[13:18] <cptklotz> I think that should be the GDM one
[13:18] <chaddy> try gdm or kdm or xdm, don't know of any others offhand
[13:19] <mathAgentine> ZykoticK9:  are you there?
[13:19] <Autoclesis> best laptops for ubuntu are lenovos and acers?
[13:20] <cptklotz> I tried editing the custom.conf file in /etc/gdm, but I'm not sure I can make it always display a list of session types
[13:20] <wvd> So, I have problems with a Tascam US-144mk2 device. After reading some tutorials it's clear that it's needed to disable ehci_hcd. Only problem is that we don't have the ehci_hcd module in our kernel - what's the best way out?
[13:21] <astraljava> pgold36: Right, yeah sorry I couldn't be of further assistance. You could also file a bug about it, but search for other existing ones first, so as to not pollute the database with duplicates.
[13:21] <chaddy> lxdm, too, apparently
[13:21] <Loqus> Does anyone know about VLAN, dhclient and ping interactions?
[13:22] <mathAgentine> what kind of files are the ones in /var/cache/apt/archives DEBs ?
[13:23] <jcgs> mathAgentine: they're software packages
[13:23] <bobbyd> Loqus: state your problem
[13:24] <om4rezz> netmind:
[13:25] <jcgs> mathAgentine: does that help?
[13:25] <Loqus> 5 port VLAN switch. 1 going to PC, 4 going to 4 ISPs. Each of the 4 ISP ports is mapped to a VID of 11, 12, 13 and 14; with corresponding VLAN interfaces on my PC.
[13:25] <mathAgentine> jcgs:  those belongs to an already installed software or before installation pacages?
[13:25] <mathAgentine> jcgs:  yas but I'm a bit slow :(
[13:26] <Loqus> I run dhclient on eth0.11 (1st port), and I get an IP / connection to Internet and can ping www.google.com.
[13:26] <jcgs> mathAgentine: no worries :) they're the ones that the package manager downloaded while it was installing software
[13:27] <jcgs> mathAgentine: does that help?
[13:27] <Loqus> I then run dhclient on eth0.12 and again, I now get IP etc on eth0.12... but using ping -I eth0.11 I should be able to still ping www.google.com... but I can't. TCP dum p shows the pings going out and being rrturned on the interface for eth0.11, but ping doesn't render them.
[13:27] <Loqus> Why does ping not render them?
[13:27] <mathAgentine> jcgs:  I'm tryng to figure out a way to pass installed software to anothe identical machine
[13:27] <mathAgentine> jcgs: yes it helps
[13:27] <jcgs> mathAgentine: what do you mean? like make a disk image and install that?
[13:28] <Loqus> ..I can go on to run dhclient on any interface out of the 4 VLANs, and each time I get a connection, but lose the ability to ping on all the others.
[13:28] <jcgs> mathAgentine:or just install exactly the same software, without having to download it fomr the internet
[13:28] <Loqus> ...although I can see the pings going out and being echod in TCPdump
[13:28] <mathAgentine> no, I need separate softwares
[13:29] <mathAgentine> is to use with mi students and they don't have internet acces
[13:29] <dw-> should i use wine 1.2 or 1.3 for Steam/Tf2
[13:30] <mathAgentine> I need to pass the programs I nedd to work in class with them
[13:30] <jcgs> can't you tell them to install them before they come to the class?
[13:30] <Loqus> BobbyD apologies if that's not particularily descriptive, but it's a complex setup :)
[13:31] <mathAgentine> jcgs:  it semd that I haven't the repends commad ¿can it be?
[13:31] <jcgs> what is repends?
[13:31] <mathAgentine> the will not do this willingly
[13:32] <Pici> !offline | mathAgentine this may be helpful
[13:32] <jcgs> mathAgentine: if you burn the debs to a disk, then the students can install them onto their own machines, but only if they have ubuntu
[13:32] <mathAgentine> A command that was tols to use in this channel in order to detect dependences of a deb  package
[13:34] <mathAgentine> I've already downloaded a few deb packages but when I tried to indtall them in their machines I've missing dependences
[13:34] <Gryllida> mathAgentine, then install these dependenccies.
[13:34] <mathAgentine> jcgs: i'm tryng to solve this problem
[13:34] <Pici> mathAgentine: http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ this will help you find and download those dependencies.
[13:35] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Ubuntu Doesn't have a Packagefull DVD?
[13:35] <mathAgentine> bot it  will took me several classes and mean while i couldn't work with them
[13:35] <mathAgentine> Pici: thanks
[13:36] <rah> I have a machine with Jaunty onit
[13:36] <dr_willis> MAREK_BENC_NetB,  the dvd version has addational languages and perhaps a few other little differances.
[13:36] <dr_willis> !jaunty
[13:36] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Aha, so it's not like debian has?
[13:36] <dr_willis> Time to upgrade your Jaunty :)
[13:36] <rah> the upgrade manager says it can't upgrade from Jaunty to Lucid
[13:36] <rah> what can I do?
[13:36] <dr_willis> MAREK_BENC_NetB,  i dont use debian. so no idea
[13:36] <rah> dr_willis: how?
[13:36] <dr_willis> !EOL | rah
[13:36] <jcgs> mathAgentine: if you don't mind me saying so, this seems a really bizzare way of dealing with this, since the whole system is really designed to be backed by internet repositories, to which the system on which the software being installed is supposed to have access
[13:37] <jcgs> mathAgentine: if you wanted you could burn a disk with all the dependencies you think they're unlikely to already have access to, but that would be very inefficient
[13:38] <vivekimsit> Hiii
[13:38] <mathAgentine> jcgs:  no problem what you're saying
[13:38] <jcgs> mathAgentine are all the machines on which the software is being installed running ubuntu or some variant therof?
[13:38] <klingelbart> ?
[13:38] <vivekimsit> i have the image path and i want to show it in openoffice
[13:38] <vivekimsit> any solution
[13:39] <Auriga> Is anyone using an E model Nokia? What App is the best for syncing & or backing up a Nokia phone?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:39] <rinkukokiri> can someone please answer me as to why youtube causes my system to freeze?
[13:39] <mathAgentine> jcgs: since 2010 the national govern of my country leased netbooks to all the tacher and estudents of the public schools
[13:39] <rinkukokiri> it's only youtube
[13:39] <rinkukokiri> and it's only  on non live content
[13:39] <mathAgentine> jcgs: they come with win 7 and ubuntu lynx
[13:40] <dr_willis> rinkukokiri,  probery how they are doing flash and the ads... You could try the HTML5 version of youtube  ->  www.youtube.com/html5
[13:40] <rinkukokiri> ever since they upgraded to their latest BS code, youtube has been nothing but problems
[13:40] <mathAgentine> but we don't have internet at the school for public use yet
[13:40] <dimas> i am trying to connect to a server application but says that can not start a client as the server is running or maybe set as admin...how i fix this?...i already granted me the use of the service
[13:41] <quarterz50> hello
[13:41] <BluesKaj> rinkukokiri, what's live on youtube ?.also what browser ?
[13:41] <mathAgentine> jcgs:  so the only way I can promote linux use is passing mi students the programs i need
[13:41] <dr_willis> dimas,  what sort of server?
[13:41] <dimas> dr_willis jackd
[13:41] <rinkukokiri> BluesKaj, every browser, chrome, chromium, firefox
[13:41] <rinkukokiri> BluesKaj, and for one, the KC anthony trial is live.
[13:42] <rinkukokiri> but I have no problems with live content
[13:42] <rinkukokiri> so that's not the issue
[13:42] <mathAgentine> jcgs:  the macinnes are all with ubuntu Lynx 10.10
[13:42] <cjs>  I did a do-release-upgrade on my 10.10 server (a virtual host running under KVM) and now when it boots I just get a grub prompt. (It's grub 1.98-ubuntu6.) I don't recall if this was originally a 10.04 system upgraded to 10.10 or if it was an install of 10.10. Any thoughts on where I should go from here?
[13:43] <mathAgentine> jcgs: hello
[13:44] <BluesKaj> rinkukokiri, have you tried reinstaling flash?  , sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[13:44] <jcgs> !aptoncd | mathAgentine
[13:44] <rah> dr_willis: I've followed the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty
[13:44] <bryan_> hi der is there someone to help me get install some driver plz
[13:44] <rinkukokiri> BluesKaj, it happens in windows and linux
[13:44] <rinkukokiri> i doubt it's a flash problem
[13:44] <rinkukokiri> because it's ONLY youtube
[13:44] <Loqus> Is anyone knowledgable with VLANs, Multiple WAN connections and routing?
[13:44] <dr_willis> rah,  i never upgrade.. i always do clean reinstalls...
[13:44] <jcgs> mathAgentine: I'm just trying it out now, but i think that might be what you need
[13:44] <rinkukokiri> and so far, html5 hasn't caused any problems
[13:44] <mathAgentine> ubottu:  does it works with pendrives?
[13:45] <mathAgentine> I've netbboks without cd
[13:45] <BluesKaj> um, then I think you should complain in yuoutube , rinkukokiri
[13:45] <rah> dr_willis: you can't help me then?
[13:45] <phux> bryan_: Asking if anyone uses, knows, is good with, can help you with  or is a guru/expert of <some program> rarely generates a  response. You'll probably get help faster by asking the real  question.
[13:45] <rah> does anybody know how I can upgrade from jaunty to karmic and/or lucid?
[13:45] <mathAgentine> JCGS YES i know so i've explained the situation
[13:46] <jcgs> mathAgentine: if the worst comes to the worst you can copy an iso onto the pendrive, and get your students to mount is
[13:46] <jamesiarmes_> I have a customer who notified us this morning that they could not access their we application. When I logged into the server I found considerably more apache processes than usual, but it still should not have been enough to bring down the server. I stopped apahce and found that there were still 114 processes in uninteruptable sleep, some of which started on Sunday. I killed the processes and started apache and they can access their application now.
[13:46] <jamesiarmes_> Looking through the logs, I found that I have been getting the following error since about the time many of those processes started: "PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery". I am still getting the error now but I can't determine what it means. Above all of those errores is starts with:
[13:46] <jamesiarmes_> "page 53: illegal page type or format
[13:46] <jamesiarmes_> PANIC: Invalid argument
[13:46] <jamesiarmes_> PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
[13:46] <FloodBot1> jamesiarmes_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:46] <bryan_> how to get driver for my gamepad on ubuntu
[13:46] <jfcaron> Does anyone know whatever happened to the whole gNote vs Tomboy debacle a while ago?  Has either one of them "won out" or something?  I'm having trouble finding recent news.
[13:46] <jamesiarmes_> Sorry, I copied and pasted and didn't realize it was going to do that :-\
[13:46] <klingelbart> how can i find out wether i'm using gnome 2 or 3?
[13:46] <rinkukokiri> BluesKaj, and yes, i have tried reinstalling flash, just about every version that's out there, adobe's version and the free versions
[13:47] <rinkukokiri> I've even used flashvideoreplacer,
[13:47] <WilsonJr> hi all
[13:47] <bryan_> hi
[13:47] <rinkukokiri> this html5 is working great so far though
[13:47] <phux> bryan_: google linux driver +gamepadname ?
[13:47]  * rinkukokiri thanks whoever suggested html5
[13:47] <dimas> dr_willis i am trying to access the sound card throw jackd(sound server) who administer it...so the program i am trying to open is ardour and says the jackd it maybe running by another name, perhaps admin
[13:47] <Devil_Pumbba> go my website www.piadasnerds.com, very good blog, with funny stories, comic stripes, HQ, videos and more
[13:48] <thiebaude> !offtopic
[13:48] <Loqus> Is anyone knowledgable with VLANs, Multiple WAN connections and routing?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Loqus, just ask your question with the details
[13:49] <phux> !anyone
[13:49] <dimas> thiebaude i am trying to properly configure some app provided by ubuntu so i hope you dont mind
[13:49] <klingelbart> yo
[13:49] <klingelbart> how can i find out wether i'm using gnome 2 or 3?
[13:49] <thiebaude> dimas, dont mind what?
[13:49] <jatt> System->About GNOME
[13:49] <bryan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428469
[13:50] <klingelbart> how can i find out wether i'm using gnome 2 or 3?
[13:50] <dimas> thiebaude would you read what i ask mr_willis?....maybe you can help me
[13:50] <bryan_> this is not very good for me ..i dont understand  seem they havent fix the thing
[13:50] <Loqus> I've asked it about 10 times and it's  alittle lenghty - thought I'd try to target it instead ;)
[13:50] <thiebaude> ok i will
[13:50] <thiebaude> dimas:
[13:50] <jatt> System->About GNOME
[13:50] <mathAgentine> jcgs: thaks this is a posibility but they couldn't work at home (as if the would do that)
[13:51] <BluesKaj> !who | jatt
[13:51] <thiebaude> dimas: i just got here so i cant scroll all the way up
[13:51] <Loqus> I have multiple VLAN interfaces specified. When I run dhclient on them, I can only ping out the one I ran it on last - using ping -I INTERFACE I can see pings goign out and returning responses through TCP dump, but Ping doesn't render them.
[13:51] <bryan_> phux are  you here
[13:52] <jcgs> mathAgentine: if you go here http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ and follow the instructions, that's what you need i think
[13:52] <thiebaude> dimas: what problem you having?
[13:52] <rah> to upgrade from one release to another, can I add appropriate lines to source.list and to an apt-get dist-upgrade?
[13:52] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> rah: Works for me  that way
[13:52] <rah> ok thanks
[13:53] <nevstah> hi, i've got stuck trying to format a partition, its not in use, but when i try to format, it says its busy. i've just partitioned it, nothing else. it doesnt even show with blkid :( any ideas? see http://pastebin.com/acbFpCr3
[13:53] <jcgs> rah: there is an upgrade manager, which might make things a bit easier, because it advises of incompatibilities
[13:53] <BluesKaj> Loqus, VLAN interfaces?
[13:53] <WilsonJr> peoples, i need practice english, anybody any channel for this?
[13:53] <Loqus> Yes,
[13:53] <WilsonJr> lol
[13:53] <Northernen> Which good C++ IDEs are there for Linux?
[13:54] <thiebaude> wilson which language?
[13:54] <jatt> emacs
[13:54] <Loqus> so I add 4 VLAN interfaces on a physical ethernet interface, then attache a managed 5 port switch with the other 4 ingress ports tagged to the 4 VLAN interfaces VIDs
[13:54] <dimas> thiebaude i am trying to understand how it works with the users in ubuntu...cause i have set up this name as user but i am the only user which it means i am the admin altough i am trying to access a audio server (jackd) throw ardour and says that cant open jackd cause maybe running in another name perhaps admin
[13:54] <phux> bryan_: yep
[13:54] <balou> Hi.  I haven't managed to get grub to load my windows 7 that is currently installed on my second harddrive.  I have looked at  some google results that seemed promising and the Ubuntu community Grub2 page, but still haven't found a way to do it correctly.   http://pastebin.com/NHd8nYnm  is the output from the boot script tool.  I would really appreciate if someone could advise.
[13:55] <Voziv> Hello, is there a feature matrix to compare the server editions? I'm leaning towards 10.04 because of the long term support, but I wanted to know what the big differences are in terms of features
[13:55] <bryan_> sorry i got this page but cant manage
[13:55] <thiebaude> dimas, im not sure about users, because i have always been 1 user on buntu machine
[13:55] <dimas> lol
[13:55] <varunthacker> Silly question but how do you open this man page on the command line : http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/online/pages/man2/open.2.html
[13:55] <mathAgentine> Pici I went to the site you recomended but I couldn't found the package I searched: kbruch
[13:55] <dimas> oke
[13:55] <thiebaude> i dont know too much about that, sorry
[13:55] <thiebaude> :)
[13:56] <varunthacker> man open returns a different man page
[13:56] <jcgs> WilsonJr: how about #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[13:56] <Pici> mathAgentine: Works for me: http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/?repo=Lucid&arch=i386&package=kbruch&have=ubuntu-desktop
[13:56] <thiebaude> or an ubuntu help cahnnel in his or her language
[13:57] <dimas> Voziv..upgrade..is a free platform so stroggle a little and help find out about the few bugs
[13:57] <balou> Sorry, I forgot to say,  the errors I am getting are: "error: no such devices:  IE58E26258E237E3"  and "errors: no such partition"
[13:57] <Pici> mathAgentine: Thats i386 on Lucid, and I suspect you already have a base ubuntu-desktop installed.
[13:58] <rah> jcgs: the update-manager apparently isn't capable of upgrading from jaunty
[13:58] <WilsonJr> thiebaude english
[13:58] <thiebaude> ok thanks wil
[13:58] <Voziv> dimas: What are the differences? This is a fresh install and not an upgrade
[13:58] <Pici> WilsonJr: ##english
[13:58] <thiebaude> WilsonJr: ubuntu-offtopic as was suggested earlier :)
[13:59] <thiebaude> if its offtopic that is
[13:59] <dimas> Vorziv one is newer than the other
[13:59] <bryan_> thx phux for help   i leave  now
[13:59] <Voziv> >.>
[13:59] <jcgs> rah:  no idea why that is. happy upgrading anyway :)
[13:59] <WilsonJr> ok ok, thanks for all! i try it
[14:00] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I got banned from Offtopic :D!!! XDXD
[14:03] <jcgs> Voziv: the names are for different versions, they're in alphabetical order. lucid lynx is long term support which means that bugs will go on being fixed in it for 4-6 years (i think) rather than 1year for other versions, but people can upgrade to newer versions as and when they become available, because it's free. however, newer versions which have more features are often somewhat less reliable, so it's a trade off
[14:03] <mathAgentine> Pici I've visited the site you told me (http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/) is seems to me that I need the meta packages of the programs ¿The metapackages contains all the possibly dependences of a program?
[14:04] <iceroot> what is the common way if using raid 1 for encryption? encrypt sda and sdb and then build a raid from them or build a raid and encrypt md?
[14:04] <jcgs> Voziv: the newest released version is maverick meerkat, which will be superseeded by natty narwhal in septermbet
[14:04] <Pici> mathAgentine: you need to enter the name of the meta package that you already have installed. i.e: ubuntu-desktop if you are running Ubuntu, or kubuntu-desktop if you are running Kubuntu.
[14:04] <Pici> jcgs: Natty Narwhal was relased in april.
[14:04] <mathAgentine> Pici: thanks
[14:05] <Pici> jcgs: Release numbers are the YEAR.MONTH of release.
[14:06] <jcgs> Pici: oops shited by one :S
[14:06] <jcgs> *shifted
[14:06] <Voziv> Thanks jcgs, but I was looking at features, I got my answer on ubutu server though
[14:07] <jcgs> Voziv: glad to hear it, obviously, in general newer -> more features
[14:07] <mathAgentine> Pici:   what is a base deskstop?
[14:07] <jamesiarmes_> I have a customer who notified us this morning that they could not access their we application. When I logged into the server I found considerably more apache processes than usual, but it still should not have been enough to bring down the server. I stopped apahce and found that there were still 114 processes in uninteruptable sleep, some of which started on Sunday. I killed the processes and started apache and they can access their application now.
[14:07] <jamesiarmes_> Looking through the logs, I found that I have been getting the following error since about the time many of those processes started: "PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery". I am still getting the error now but I can't determine what it means. Above all of those errores is starts with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/638439/
[14:07] <soziety> hello, I am in xubuntu 10.04, when I connect to my vpn don't alert with popup (vpn conection stablished) I'd like add a code with this function in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d any idea (sorry my english)
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Loqus, I'm afraid your description sounds like advanced IT lingo which most ppl here haven't encountered before ...example : VLAN=Very Large Area Network ?
[14:09] <jcgs> BluesKaj VLAN= virtual local area network
[14:09] <Pici> mathAgentine: ubuntu-desktop in most cases.
[14:09] <mathAgentine> Pici:  thanks for the explanation
[14:09] <mathAgentine> kbruch_4.4.2-0ubuntu2
[14:09] <BluesKaj> jcgs, thanks :)
[14:09] <mathAgentine> Pici: sorry I've downloades kbruch_4.4.2-0ubuntu2_i386
[14:10] <jcgs> jamiesarmies_: do you have any idea what page 53 is?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> virtual sounds even more difficult
[14:11] <jcgs> Loqus: are you sure this is definitely a problem at the computer end, not with the router? can you get access to the router's settings?
[14:11] <mathAgentine> but wen i've tryng to install it , the libkdecore (>=4:4,5) missing
[14:11] <jamesiarmes_> jcgs: no idea. Most of what I find on google deals with LDAP and BDB but we don't use either
[14:11] <jcgs> jamiesarmies_: can you post the full log without compromising privacy?
[14:11] <Northernen> Is there any way to troubleshoot which processes are claiming more and more memory?
[14:12] <jcgs> Northernen other than killing them?
[14:12] <Northernen> jcgs, memory usage just keeps on rising, even though I'm not starting any new processes, and I don't know why.
[14:12] <dr_willis> top/htop can sort by menory ussage
[14:12] <dr_willis> Northernen,  sure its not disk cache?
[14:13] <Northernen> dr_willis, pardon?
[14:14] <jamesiarmes_> jcgs: that's all that's in the log, it just keeps repeating the "PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery" line, thousands of times. There are a few GnuTLS errors above, which I pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/638441/
[14:14] <dr_willis> !ram
[14:15] <Northernen> Should the disk really cache so much that the system is forced to use swap?
[14:15] <mbt> No, the kernel should shrink the cache as memory pressure from applications increases...
[14:16] <balou> I think I found my problem.  The first time I tried to install ubuntu on my secondary drive it installed grub into the primary drives MBR (where windows 7 lives).  Then when I tried to do it all again, I swapped my secondary and primary drives, so that I was now installing ubuntu onto my primary.  After this ubuntu would load fine, and the boot loader would also display Windows as an option.  Trying to go into windows, however, failed
[14:16] <Northernen> Now I feel silly... Thanks for help.
[14:17] <rhin01> anyone aware of a problem with vinagre (remote desktop) not updating screen (essentially not working) on client
[14:17] <balou> I am now thinking this is because my intial attempt left some grub stuff on the windows harddrive MBR, so when windows tries to start it's MBR isn't quite right?
[14:18] <balou> is there a way for me to do bootrec from ubuntu to fix my windows MBR that is currently on my secondary harddrive where  windows is installed?
[14:18] <dr_willis> the mbr is only a little bit. If the system boots - then the mbr has done its kob..
[14:18] <balou> dr_willis:But the system doesn't boot into windows.
[14:18] <dr_willis> if you want to fix the mbr. you should use a windows rescue cd. and fix it.
[14:18] <balou> it only boots into ubunt
[14:19] <balou> I don't have a windows rescue cd
[14:19] <jcgs> jamiesarmies_: are you sure that something connected to apache isn't using berkely db? or something related to it?
[14:19] <dr_willis> MS has them you can download i recall...
[14:19] <dr_willis> minimal rescue cd images
[14:19] <balou> i'll try to find one
[14:19] <Northernen> balou, are you able to see the grub menu at all?
[14:20] <dr_willis> its possible its not grub related but some windows issue. or it may be you some how removed some files/boot partition that windows was using.
[14:20] <dr_willis> Or the grub entry is just incorrect and booting the wrong partition
[14:20] <soziety> hello, I am in xubuntu 10.04, when I connect to my vpn don't alert with popup (vpn conection stablished) I'd like add a code with this function in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d any idea (sorry my english)
[14:20] <lapaga> balou, when you say you then switched drives and installed to the windows drive did you use the whole disk?
[14:20] <balou> Northernen: Yes I see the menu with all the options I want on it.   And I can successfully log into ubuntu.  It's just when I try to go to windows, that i get those errors
[14:21] <jcgs> sorry chaps! have to tidy my room >.<
[14:22] <balou> lapaga:  I switched the drives, so that the new primary did not have windows on it.  I installed ubuntu there.  So the only thing that could have changed from my secondary (where windows is installed) is the MBR from my first failed attemp to install ubuntu.  In my first attempt I was trying to install ubuntu to the secondary drive, which worked, but I think grub was put onto the windows drive because it was the primary at the time.
[14:22] <jamesiarmes_> jcgs: how could I tell that? I don't have mod_bdb enabled
[14:22] <Galeo> Hi. I'm currently trying to get a file from a non-working computer, using unetbootin and Ubuntu 10_04 live, but whenever the computer starts, I only get "SYSLINUX 4.03 2010-10-22 EDD Copyright (c) 1994-2010, H. Peter Anvin et al", has someone a clue to what I could do, or has a link to a valid answer in forums ? Thanks.
 I pasted my grub config http://pastebin.com/NHd8nYnm earlier
[14:23] <edbian> Galeo: Why is the target machine not working?
[14:23] <AFD> any ideas on how to remove gdm from an ubuntu server 10.04 install
[14:23] <jamesiarmes_> jcgs: I do have libdb4.6 which is described as "Berkeley v4.6 Database Libraries"
[14:24] <edbian> AFD: sudo aptitude purge gdm   :)
[14:24] <edbian> AFD: It will want to remove all of gnome probably
[14:24] <mathAgentine> Pici:  jcgs Zycotic9 thaks all of you for your time and you help
[14:26] <AFD> edbian it's not purging :(
[14:26] <AFD> I'm using sudo
[14:27] <AFD> and tried apt-get and apt-get remove too...
[14:27] <edbian> AFD: what's it doing?
[14:27] <edbian> AFD: error?  yelling at you?
[14:27] <AFD> edbian 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded
[14:27] <AFD> says gdm is not installed
[14:28] <edbian> AFD: Than it isn't  When you boot do you get a graphical login screen?
[14:28] <glenn_> join /ubuntu-nlµ
[14:28] <glenn_> how can i get the pannelbar back in gnome ubuntu
[14:29] <rhin01> anyone know why vinagre doesn't update the screen on the client (11.04 client to 10.04 server) (vinagre is remote desktop)
[14:29] <AFD> edbian if I startx then I get to what looks like gdm
[14:29] <edbian> AFD: Perhaps that's xdm ?  What happens when you boot?
[14:29] <AFD> edbian I installed icewm after the server install and then a package installed gnome afterwards
[14:30] <AFD> edbian sorry - when I boot it's just CLI and then I startx
[14:30] <edbian> AFD: run start x, log in, lemme see the output of ps -e
[14:30] <edbian> AFD: That def sounds like GDM is not installed then.  But let me see ps -e anyway
[14:31] <mathAgentine> sorry for the basic question but What  exactly means this phrase: After you have downloaded these packages, put them in a directory and transfered that to your Ubuntu system,
[14:31] <mathAgentine> what is tha name of the Ubuntu system, directory?
[14:32] <AFD> edbian http://pastebin.com/JuHffsMB
[14:32] <glda19> what is the standard name of the gnome panels
[14:32] <edbian> glda19: gnome-panel
[14:33] <glda19> edbian can you do somthing for me
[14:33] <edbian> AFD: I don't see any DM here.  not KDM, GDM, or XDM
[14:33] <edbian> still looking
[14:33] <edbian> glda19: maybe
[14:33] <AFD> edbian gnome-settings is there
[14:33] <john_rambo>  what is causing that black area ? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30630174/lubuntu.png ... When I move the a window over it it goes away
[14:34] <edbian> AFD: yeah... gnome-settings is not gdm
[14:34] <edbian> It's not a display manager at all.
[14:34] <AFD> edbian gnome-panel?
[14:34] <edbian> AFD: also not gdm
[14:34] <edbian> AFD: Perhaps you're confused about what GDM is
[14:35] <glda19> how can i get my upper gnome-panel back
[14:35] <edbian> glda19: right click the bottom one, click add new panel
[14:36] <glda19> ebian thats not working
[14:36] <AFD> edbian I may be - but I know what the gnome panel looks like... it has the ubuntu icon in the corner etc
[14:37] <edbian> glda19: Can you elaborate?  What specifically are you doing that isn't working?
[14:37] <AFD> has what looks like the clear-looks icon
[14:37] <edbian> AFD: You can have the gnome-panel without GDM   You can have all the rest of gnome without GDM
[14:37] <glda19> i have istalled cairo dock and now i my panel where i can see location system and so on is gone
[14:38] <AFD> edbian I think that must be it
[14:38] <Marticus> good morning
[14:38] <edbian> glda19: You can add those icons to the panel you do have.  It's called main menu
[14:39] <AFD> edbian thanks for the help... I'd have been scratching my head till I was bald without it ;)
[14:39] <edbian> AFD: GDM is just the graphical login scren
[14:39] <edbian> AFD :)
[14:39] <AFD> edbian ciao for now
[14:39] <glda19> edian i hav no panel
[14:39] <edbian> glda19: I'm not sure why adding cairo dock would remove a panel, you could stop using cairo
[14:39] <edbian> glda19: no panels at all?
[14:39] <Marticus> in the latest version, there is a mac-like button bar on the left. What is it called so that I may find out how to configure it?
[14:39] <glda19> yes no panels at all
[14:40] <edbian> glda19: Do you have a gnome-panel process running?
[14:40] <perlsyntax> how do i get a broadcom 4311 to work in ubuntu?
[14:40] <glda19> how can i see that
[14:41] <edbian> glda19: using ps -e or the gnome system-monitor GUI
[14:41] <edbian> perlsyntax: You install firmware-b43-installer     (easiest if you're online)
[14:41] <corrytonapple> I am running Ubuntu 11.04 with GNOME 2.  I have a dark panel, and the dark font is hard to read.  How do I make the font white?
[14:41] <perlsyntax> i try that did work
[14:41] <perlsyntax>  Would this matter if my wireless card blue light now on
[14:42] <Marticus> corrytonapple: type gnome in the search and click on appearance
[14:42] <edbian> perlsyntax: sudo modprobe b43 (or restart the machine)
[14:42] <Pici> corrytonapple: System>Preferences>Appearance, font either has its own tab, or its under the themes tab.
[14:42] <edbian> perlsyntax: The light doesn't concern me either way
[14:42] <perlsyntax> what you mean edbian
[14:43] <Marticus> so what provides the new silly os-x-esque button bar so that I can customize it?
[14:43] <edbian> perlsyntax: run sudo modprobe b43   (to turn the driver on) or restart the machine.  What is confusing you?
[14:43] <corrytonapple> Pici:  How would I go about changing the color of the font though?
[14:43] <glda19> ebian no there is no gnome-panel process
[14:43] <perlsyntax> sorry i ask then
[14:43] <edbian> glda19: then run gnome-panel   in a terminal to turn them back on.  It might kill cairo-dock
[14:43] <edbian> perlsyntax: ?
[14:43] <Pici> corrytonapple: Its either in there, or you may be able to affect the color by using the color settings inside the theme preferences.
[14:44] <Marticus> corrytonapple: choose the theme and click customize
[14:44] <Pici> corrytonapple: I don't have a graphical desktop in front of my to check where exactly the settings are.
[14:44] <Marticus> corrytonapple: while you'
[14:44] <corrytonapple> The Text is set to white everywhere
[14:44] <corrytonapple> System-Wide
[14:44] <Marticus> while you're there, look at the other config options so you know what is available in case you want to change more, without needing to ask
[14:44] <perlsyntax> i did that i see no wireless.
[14:45] <edbian> perlsyntax: Do you have a /lib/firmware/b43   folder with stuff in it?
[14:45] <glda19> edbian, thy  are back
[14:45] <Marticus> corrytonapple: create a new user, login with that user, see if it still happens
[14:45] <edbian> glda19: fixed?
[14:45] <edbian> :)
[14:45] <Marticus> if it doesn't then wipe your gnome config dirs
[14:45] <corrytonapple> Marticus:  Trust me, I have looked through there.  I am quite experienced with this.  But, the top panel will not have it go white
[14:45] <glda19> edbian yes
[14:45] <edbian> glda19: Glad I could help :)
[14:46] <corrytonapple> Marticus:  ok
[14:46] <edbian> glda19: For the record.  removing cairo dock and restarting would have also worked
[14:46] <brainwave92> how to get info about a package without installing it from cli?
[14:46] <edbian> brainwave92: aptitude show packageName
[14:46] <glda19> edbian how can i test it that the gnome-panels are working with out reboot
[14:47] <brainwave92> will it give information about the package?
[14:47] <Marticus> corrytonapple: backup the dirs first :)
[14:47] <edbian> glda19: Are they working now?  I'm confused what you're asking
[14:47] <corrytonapple> Marticus:  Where are they?
[14:47] <edbian> brainwave92: yeah
[14:48] <sako> hey guys so i have a dual boot with ubuntu and archlinux at work, anyone able to get it working using grub via archlinux install?
[14:48] <brainwave92> What is the easiest way to backup files in linux?
[14:48] <sako> i'd rather use 0.9.7 that comes with arch, the newer grub sucks :/
[14:48] <brainwave92> sako, newer grub as in grub2?
[14:48] <glda19> edbian where can i set how is automaticly loged in
[14:48] <sako> brainwave92: ya
[14:49] <edbian> glda19: I'm not sure.  I would just reboot and see what starts.  I'm guessing it'll start whatever was running when you logged out last.
[14:49] <Marticus> good lord, the launcher config options are pathetic, only one setting to control the activation hotspot, surely there are more options somewhere?
[14:49] <sako> brainwave92: though i suspect its ubuntu being dumb, having all sorts of issues with plymouth and resolutions during boot
[14:49] <Marticus> corrytonapple: dunno, I think look for .gnome*
[14:49] <corrytonapple> Would they be in home?
[14:50] <brainwave92> sako, (life's simple..!) whats the exact issue?????
[14:50] <joeyJoel_> Hi, can I get some help w/ubuntu
[14:50] <corrytonapple> !help | joeyJoel_
[14:51] <joeyJoel_> Sorry, my first time here
[14:51] <joeyJoel_> Hi, I have a MAC G4, single 125 gig processor, dual mirror door, that went bad.  I downloaded  ubuntu, burned it to a cd, but it does not boot, or run... I like help in 1`, getting it to be correct in format, and 2, installing it on my mac
[14:51] <brainwave92> joeyJoel_, what is a dual mirror door?
[14:52] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_: Its fine.  Anyway, how did it go bad?
[14:52] <corrytonapple> brainwave92:  It is a type of PowerMac
[14:52] <joeyJoel_> It is a MAC that they called superdrive, it had an optical reader, and seperate burner
[14:52] <corrytonapple> Its the one I want to get.  We had some old G3s, but anyway....
[14:53] <joeyJoel_> It's a very good machine
[14:53] <brainwave92> aint a mac user...we dont see them around here much....
[14:53] <Galaxor> Hi.  I just got 11.04 and I'm using the default "ambiance" theme.  In gnome-terminal, in the tabbox, there is not enough contrast between the active tab and the inactive tabs.  How do I change those colors (subtly)?
[14:53] <corrytonapple> I will try to get one soon.....
[14:53] <joeyJoel_> the reading i did, say the mac  is the eaiest to convert
[14:54] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_: I did not know that.  I though Acer laptops were pretty easy to convert
[14:54] <corrytonapple> I would bet Ubuntu runs great on it.
[14:54] <joeyJoel_> MAC is either unix or lynix based
[14:55] <joeyJoel_> I can boot beneath the os, and go entirely with command lines
[14:55] <corrytonapple> But, first we must get it to work.  Yes, OS X is Unix based
[14:55] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  You mean like you are willing to, or that is what you are getting?
[14:55] <joeyJoel_> ?
[14:56] <corrytonapple> You said "I can boot beneath the os, and go entirely with command lines"
[14:56] <reseph_> Hi all. I'm attempting to launch Ubuntu on LiveCD and it's throwing me into initramfs. Why?
[14:57] <dev00p> hello
[14:57] <edbian> reseph_: Because something is wrong.  Perhaps it's a bad CD.  Do you see any errors about I/O error on sr0  ?
[14:57] <joeyJoel_> i'll rephrase - the machine can now boot. I can boot it into the single user mode,unix, or the windows ox.  I want to change the os to ubuntu.  I already downloaded the ubuntu os, I just nerred to install
[14:57] <reseph_> edbian: I'm seeing things like "target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init"
[14:57] <joeyJoel_> sorry my typing sucks
[14:57] <dev00p> uhmm, does someone knows whats going on with playdeb
[14:58] <dev00p> im just getting blank page
[14:58] <ikonia> dev00p: they have their own support resources
[14:58] <edbian> reseph_: The target filesystem is the CD.  It's incomplete.  I think you have a bad burn or a bad image.
[14:58] <edbian> reseph_: for the record USB sticks are more reliable
[14:58] <reseph_> I'm actually using a 4GB USB
[14:59] <edbian> reseph_: Remake the stick
[14:59] <reseph_> Will do
[14:59] <glda19>  /msg NickServ identify glennd19
[14:59] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_: iKnow what you mean.  :)
[14:59] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_: Once sec
[14:59] <joeyJoel_> I may have not made the copy correctly.  the download, i think is a disk image
[14:59] <glda19> i have problem to login
[14:59] <edbian> reseph_: It drops to initramfs or busybox when it can't boot
[14:59] <ikonia> glda19: you've just given us your password, ask for help in #freenode
[14:59] <corrytonapple> glda19:  You did the identify in the wrong place
[15:00] <joeyJoel_> I am not sure if I made the disk correctly so it will boot or install
[15:00] <corrytonapple> ikonia:  I might have just PMed them that message instead of everyone knowing that....
[15:00] <Symmetria> whats the linux kernel boot option to tell it to boot straight into a single user prompt without starting anything OR attempting to mount anything?
[15:00] <ikonia> corrytonapple: good for you
[15:00] <glda19> corrytonapple, where is the good place to identify
[15:00] <Symmetria> I really urgently need to tell this thing not to do a damn thing other than give me a recovery prompt
[15:00] <corrytonapple> glda19:  In the window or tab that says "freenode"
[15:01] <ikonia> glda19: ask in #freenode for irc/network help
[15:01] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  Again, one sec.    There was no need for that, and that did not even make sense
[15:02] <ikonia> corrytonapple: there was no need for your comment, - so please, control the language.
[15:02] <andrea_> Bella figaglioli!
[15:02] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  Anyway, try booting it.  If you cannot boot it again, try burning a new disc
[15:02] <andrea_> Andò sta Maria?
[15:02] <joeyJoel_>  yes, when the tones start, hold down the command key, and the letter 's'  you will see a black screen asking for commands
[15:02] <glda19> wy im i login as root when i  give my name on the loginscreen
[15:02] <corrytonapple> ikonia:  I was suggesting that next time you just PM her.  Some bots I am sure watch the channel for that kinda stuff
[15:02] <ikonia> glda19: you can't login as root
[15:03] <ikonia> corrytonapple: I understand what you where suggesting
[15:03] <PythonSnake> Hi how can I remove ark it tells me to remove kubuntu-desktop too
[15:03] <corrytonapple> ikonia:  We good now?  :)
[15:03] <PythonSnake> ?
[15:03] <ikonia> PythonSnake: that is just a meta package, you can remove it safley
[15:03] <ikonia> safley
[15:03] <ikonia> safely
[15:04] <ikonia> PythonSnake: although it does beg the question why you want to remove ark
[15:04] <joeyJoel_> I'm not sure you understand completely, my bad... when I made disk images from mac, I know the format.  the ubuntu disk has many folders.  I am not sure if I should have open all, Before I burned, OR, left it in the folder.  One of those ways , and nothing will be recognied
[15:04] <PythonSnake> ikonia: if i remove kubuntu-desktop, my desktop is gone ?
[15:04] <Symmetria> wow this server drives me nuts when you have to reboot it, it takes a good 6 or 7 minutes before it even STARTS going near the operating system
[15:04] <ikonia> PythonSnake: no, but I'd suggest not removing ark unless you need to
[15:05] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  So did you extract all of the files to the root of the CD, then burn it to make it bootable?
[15:05] <corrytonapple> So there are no more folders?
[15:05] <PythonSnake> ikonia: when i right click on archives and extract them, ark keeps prompting me again and again but i've already ticked ''apply to all''
[15:05] <PythonSnake> is that a bug ?
[15:05] <joeyJoel_> well, thats the quesation... I'm not sure what I need to do. I have the ubuntu  os downloaded, but to install, I have to burn it to cd
[15:05] <ikonia> PythonSnake: I don't know, look in the launchpad.net bug database
[15:06] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  Did you follow the instructions on the download page for mac or windows on how to burn it to a CD?
[15:06] <corrytonapple> You should leave the files the way they are
[15:06] <joeyJoel_> it did not specify
[15:07] <joeyJoel_> it only said, download, then burn to cd
[15:07] <corrytonapple> What OS are you in now joeyJoel?
[15:07] <joeyJoel_> My mac is 10.5.8 ppc - my windows is system 7
[15:08] <AlexDevilLX> Hi All!
[15:08] <corrytonapple> What OS are you using now?  Not what OSes you have.
[15:08] <joeyJoel_> on my mac 10.5.8
[15:08] <AlexDevilLX> What are SDA1,2,3 SD..?
[15:08] <Pici> AlexDevilLX: partitions on sda
[15:09] <AlexDevilLX> joeyJoel_,Whats your problem
[15:09] <joeyJoel_> The  question was unclear - what am I using right now, as I type?
[15:09] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  Okay, then let me ask you if you followed this link?
[15:09] <AlexDevilLX> Pici,and how do they work
[15:09] <joeyJoel_> what link
[15:09] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[15:10] <joeyJoel_> its loading
[15:10] <corrytonapple> Then click "Burn your CD or create a USB drive" then click Mac as your computer
[15:10] <kurt_> Hi, guys! I have a problem with Ubuntu Live CD, can someone help?
[15:10] <corrytonapple> It shows you how.  If you did it that way, you should be good
[15:10] <Pici> AlexDevilLX: What do you mean 'how do they work'?
[15:10] <Dbl_Tap> kurt_: just ask the question
[15:10] <corrytonapple> !help | kurt_
[15:10] <AlexDevilLX> I got lost today in them
[15:10] <kurt_> I can`t start Ubuntu Installation after booting from Live CD.
[15:11] <joeyJoel_> yes, absolutely.  Notice it does NOT explain anything but the order of the steps
[15:11] <kurt_> It`s showing granting rights and nothing after.
[15:11] <corrytonapple> Did you click "Show me How"?
[15:11] <AlexDevilLX> kurt_, so dont boot from live cd
[15:11] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  That last message was ment for you
[15:12] <dattebayo> hey guys i get the driver from "Additional Driver" but it doesnt work and everyutime i need to rename or mv the xorg how can i fix it? my graphic is ati radeon 6490m
[15:12] <kurt_> It won`t install at all, just booting a Live OS
[15:12] <joeyJoel_> at this moment, I can't recall, but I have installed many systems, ubuntu is unique
[15:12] <joeyJoel_> Remember, normally, I would boot from the cd
[15:12] <Pici> joeyJoel_: And thats how Ubuntu works too.
[15:13] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  Yeah it is.  I have tried many, but Enjoy Ubuntu for the support.
[15:13] <joeyJoel_> the machine did not recognize it
[15:13] <ejo> Doing it off a USB flash memory device is faster quieter lots more fun
[15:13] <joeyJoel_> Well, at this moment, I'm home, no extra flash drives
[15:13] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  So it just gives an error or brings you to GRUB or your bootloader.
[15:14] <krisss117> hi i have problem with connect ot my wifi, after update
[15:14] <joeyJoel_> it goes to a blue screen, with nothing
[15:14] <kurt_> So, what is it possible to do? It just don`t want to start an installation, but boots a Live System
[15:14] <krisss117> how i can check, in what step it stack ?
[15:14] <corrytonapple> How long have you waited?  The Live CDs take a while to load
[15:14] <dimas> what exactly does the command "echo"?
[15:14] <AlexDevilLX> shows message on screen
[15:14] <corrytonapple> dimas:  it shows a message on the screen
[15:15] <corrytonapple> Of whatever you type in
[15:15] <corrytonapple> so like echo
[15:15] <AlexDevilLX> echo Hello World! show Hello World!
[15:15] <Sazpaimon> Can someone give me a hand in compiling a 32 bit mplayer on 64 bit ubuntu?
[15:15] <gandhijee> hey how do i install a source rpm on ubuntu?
[15:15] <corrytonapple> so like echo "Hello World!'
[15:15] <Sazpaimon> (without a chroot, preferably)
[15:15] <joeyJoel_> I have the ubuntu os downloaded.  I need to burn it to a cd, or place in a flash drive. The point i'm at, is it is UNmounted in it's downloaded form. I do NOT know wht to do with the raw os
[15:15] <[mickey]> hey everyone new to ubunto and linux here.. everything installed fine but now it keeps on booting to busybox.. and sometime it just panics saying it cant find any root
[15:15] <AlexDevilLX> BTW, you can calculate numbers with it
[15:16] <kurt_> Is it possible to burn on disk Ubuntu Minimal?
[15:16] <dimas> corrytonapple for example this:  echo "/usr/bin/jackd -d alsa -r 44100 -p 256" > ~/.jackdrc
[15:16] <AlexDevilLX> I like linux because it calculates 2+2X2 right
[15:16] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  The .iso you just burn to the CD by following the instructions from that page.
[15:16] <corrytonapple> If it does not work, you may have a bad CD.
[15:16] <AlexDevilLX> while windows gives 8
[15:17] <Pici> !ot | AlexDevilLX
[15:17] <AlexDevilLX> Try verbatim
[15:17] <joeyJoel_> It does not explain the format to install.
[15:17] <joeyJoel_> it only says download, burn, install.
[15:17] <AlexDevilLX> What OS?
[15:17] <joeyJoel_> MAC
[15:17] <Pici> !who | AlexDevilLX
[15:17] <gandhijee> Sazpaimon: install 32bit libs, pass -m32
[15:18] <Pici> joeyJoel_: What 'format'?
[15:18] <AlexDevilLX> !tab
[15:18] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_: Yes, you have to click the "Show Me How" button after you choose your settings
[15:18] <joeyJoel_> I'm totally confused... between typing and reading
[15:18] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  I know, it is crazy
[15:18] <AlexDevilLX>  joeyJoel_, Nero works on windows well
[15:18] <dimas> what exactly does this command and how i change it cause i need to change some parameters?...i mean i dont want to have the two commands
[15:18] <corrytonapple> AlexDevilLX, Please Stop with spamming about Winodws
[15:18] <corrytonapple> *Windows
[15:19] <joeyJoel_> Sorry, I can read... please do not be so redundant with me, as if I were a slug.  My question is valid, and at this point, I'll figure it out myslf
[15:19] <[mickey]> ok back to the forum..
[15:19] <Pici> joeyJoel_: We're trying to help here...
[15:19] <Pici> joeyJoel_: I just don't understand what you mean tby "It does not explain the format to install".
[15:19] <joeyJoel_> I stated the same about 15 times, same answer. Im past that point
[15:19] <[mickey]> joeyJoel_, I'm on a mac, I'll help if I can
[15:19] <WillWork4Foo> Hi all - I have a really annoying issue with Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro. I'm running the amd64 alternative mac install, is there a specific group who work with that or is this channel the place to ask about things?
[15:19] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  We are trying to help.  You are not describing the problem well, so I have to try to figure it out
[15:19] <Sazpaimon> gandhijee, I'm running LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32" CC="gcc -m32" host_alias=i386-unknown-linux-gnu linux32 dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b -ai386 -j9 -nc
[15:20] <AlexDevilLX> corrytonapple: I dont spam, i simply told, how i burned dvd
[15:20] <kurt_> So, can someone help me with my problem here?
[15:20] <[mickey]> I'm afraid I missed ur original question
[15:20] <Sazpaimon> it's still missing some libraries i manually extracted to /usr/lib32
[15:20] <goltoof_1> can't see windows network, actually can't see any network, under Entire network..
[15:20] <bytesaber_work> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes      says (as well as other docs) that I should have a upgrade option to go to 10.10 available in the gui.  So far can't find anything.  Only when 10.04 updates are available.   Ideas?
[15:20] <corrytonapple> AlexDevilLX:  You said how well Nero works on 7.  You keep talking about Windows and not Ubuntu
[15:20] <goltoof_1> can access network in xp vm
[15:20] <joeyJoel_> If anyone is in southernCA, email me, and I'll have you as agues to one of my shows<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Thank you all, bye.
[15:20] <gandhijee> Sazpaimon: you might have to tell it where to find hte header files
[15:21] <corrytonapple> Well, I just wasted my time.  *sigh*
[15:21] <cryoniccore> I am trying to get adobe air on my Unbuntu. Does anybody know how to do this?
[15:21] <AlexDevilLX> corrytonapple: sorry for offtopic
[15:21] <dimas> my question is very simple...i need to change the parameters on this command but i dont want to leave what i did before with it...then command is: echo "/usr/bin/jackd -d alsa -r 44100 -p 256" > ~/.jackdrc
[15:21] <corrytonapple> AlexDevilLX:  Its cool  :)
[15:21] <cryoniccore> !adobe
[15:22] <corrytonapple> I am using XChat.  How do I get rid of all this someone joined someone quit stuff?
[15:22] <Pici> dimas: all that does it put the output of the first part of the command into a file at ~/.jackdrc
[15:22] <Pici> !quietxchat > corrytonapple
[15:22] <Pice> Hi, I'm running 10.04 at work, and recently, my workstation keeps losing connection to the server. My only solution thus far is unplugging the ethernet cord for about 5 min and then reconnecting it. Any ideas on how I can remedy this situation?
[15:22] <kurt_> Someone?!
[15:22] <dimas> pici but i want to change it...how i revert what i did and put the new one?
[15:22] <Pici> !someone | kurt_
[15:22] <AI_> corrytonapple: use the ignore-function
[15:22] <sudipta> !iphone
[15:23] <Pici> dimas: That will overwrite the destination file every time it is run.
[15:23] <Mr_Giraffe> hi, I recently ran some routine software updates for Ubuntu Natty, and on rebooting my wireless card no longer worked
[15:23] <corrytonapple> I am doing what the Ubott told em too
[15:23] <dimas> Pici you sure?
[15:23] <kurt_> Why does I can`t start an Ubuntu Isntallation, if my Live System boots normal?!
[15:23] <Pici> dimas: Thats what the > operator means.
[15:23] <AlexDevilLX> !poll
[15:23] <soziety> how can I create a file in /etc/network/ with root permission and execute
[15:23] <sipior> Pice: what changed when the network troubles started?
[15:23] <Pici> !msgthebot > AlexDevilLX
[15:23] <dimas> Pici then i wont have the two commands on it?
[15:23] <Pici> dimas: what?
[15:24] <cryoniccore> does anybody know how to get adboe air on Ubuntu?
[15:24] <AI_> soziety: touch file && chmod +x file
[15:24] <cryoniccore> adobe*
[15:24] <goltoof> so yeah, can't see windows network in 10.04, what's a good start?
[15:24] <s7r> any package for ubuntu to create SSTP vpn server on a ubuntu box?
[15:24] <s7r> please
[15:24] <dimas> Pici i want to send the command again with different parameters insted 256....2048 for example ...i wnat to make sure it wont just write another line on it
[15:25] <kurt_> Please, I need an issue for my INSTALL problem.
[15:25] <Pici> dimas: I already said.  > overwrites the file. If you wanted to append, you would have used '>>', not '>'
[15:25] <Pice> sipior ... nothing really ... I would attempt to connect to our serevr with my domain login and it would consistently fail authentication. I eventually had to get my boss to log in as admin to figure out that my workstation had lost it's IP
[15:25] <goltoof> reinstall likewise?
[15:25] <Sazpaimon> gandhijee, Its compiling okay until it gets to ccache, where I see "/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib32/libass.a when searching for -lass"
[15:25] <dimas> Pici got ya, thanks
[15:25] <soziety> thnks AI_
[15:25] <deem> kurt_: you should say, _why_ you can't start an installation
[15:25] <goltoof> I just get: Couldn't display "network:///"
[15:26] <sipior> Pice: possible you have a bad cable, or the port on the switch is confused/broken
[15:26] <Pice> sipior: The only thing I can think of was an update, but nothing updated in the past few weeks.
[15:26] <kurt_> I`ve told! It WON`T starts. It opens a Granting Permission window, and that`s all!
[15:26] <cryoniccore> umm hello? Can people read my question or is my internet failing?
[15:26] <Pice> sipior: I'll try that and see if it fixes anything
[15:27] <Pice> sipior: Thanks
[15:27] <AI_> cryoniccore: no fail
[15:27] <sudipta> !RockBox
[15:27] <Archie> Hello
[15:27] <goltoof> cryoniccore: widespread hangovers, methinks
[15:27] <corrytonapple> Hello Archie
[15:27] <Archie> Hiya, how're you?
[15:28] <corrytonapple> doing good.  Do you have a question we can help with?
[15:28] <AI_> cryoniccore: just ask straight questions, tell the problem or use google
[15:28] <cryoniccore> AI_ sweet. I was wondering if there was a quick and easy way to install adobe air on my Ubuntu 64bit 11.04
[15:28] <Symmetria> lol, wow, added a SAN to this stupid server and it reordered all the drives in linux (like sdc because sde etc etc) which gave me endless issues trying to boot it again :P
[15:28] <Archie> No. I'm ok thanks, this room was just on auto joins. Thanks anyway.
[15:28] <corrytonapple> Archie you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:28] <corrytonapple> There we all hang out.
[15:28] <deem> kurt_: pls ask, before you talk to somebody in a query. i don't like this
from repository...search for it
[15:29] <kurt_> I have my LIVE system running. But Ubuntu Installation stuff WON`T starts!
[15:29] <cryoniccore> sudipta. I did and I cant find it
[15:30] <corrytonapple> kurt_:  This is no guaranteed shot, but a guess.  Did you try not doing a live boot, but installing it as soon as it comes up instead of try then install?
[15:30] <kurt_> It won`t load this stuff at boot
[15:30] <corrytonapple> Well, I can say I tried.
[15:30] <kurt_> I`ve choosed an installation method, but it booted Live System
[15:31] <a|i> how do you save iptables in ubuntu?
[15:31] <corrytonapple> kurt_  You may have a bad CD.  Did you burn to a CD or USB?
[15:31] <kurt_> To a CD with 4x
[15:31] <kurt_> No errors with a proof
[15:31] <AI_> cryoniccore: just download http://airdownload.adobe.com/air/lin/download/1.5/AdobeAIRInstaller.bin
adobeair
[15:32] <corrytonapple> It may just be a bad CD.  You could try burning to a new CD, using quality media.  I have found there to be errors with a CD and it be the cause of a bad install or live cd
[15:32] <reseph_> Hi all. Trying to boot Ubuntu from USB again, now it gets stuck at "SYSLINUX 3.82" etc line and does nothing.
[15:32] <kurt_> Can I burn a minimum .iso on CD?
[15:32] <kurt_> Will it be bootable?
[15:32] <cryoniccore> AI_, Yea I have tried that too but it on;y supports 32bit
[15:32] <corrytonapple> Not to a desktop, and you would install via command line with minimal graphics
[15:33] <kurt_> Yes
[15:33] <corrytonapple> Which kurt_ is quite easy
[15:33] <AI_> cryoniccore: google for it
[15:33] <Symmetria> http://paste.linuxassist.net/215686 <[15:33] <cryoniccore> What program do I use to open a bin file?
[15:33] <Symmetria> now its looking pretty
[15:34] <AI_> cryoniccore: chmod +x file.bin && sudo ./file.bin
[15:34] <Pici> Symmetria: Thats nice but its really something that ought to be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:36] <Mr_Giraffe> hi, I asked this earlier to no avail--I recently ran some routine software updates for Ubuntu Natty, and on rebooting my wireless card no longer worked. is there any way to roll back wireless/network driver updates?
[15:39] <cryoniccore> AI_ chmod: cannot access `AdobeAIRInstaller.bin': No such file or directory
[15:39] <AI_> cryoniccore: lol
[15:40] <cryoniccore> AI_ I dont get the humour in that
[15:41] <AI_> cryoniccore: 2 possibilities.. 1: there is no file with that name 2: youre rights are wrong, try it as root
[15:42] <cryoniccore> AI_ U failed to tell me to switch directories. Cus thats where is package is atm
[15:43] <hetii> Hello
[15:43] <AI_> cryoniccore: do i also have to tell you to use the keybord for typing the commands?
[15:43] <hetii> could someone explain me that: test -x /usr/sbin/sshd || exit 0
[15:43] <hetii> ?
[15:44] <hetii> its a line from  init.d script for ssh
[15:44] <Guest16489> :)
[15:44] <hetii> why it return 0 when the deamon not exist??
[15:44] <cryoniccore> AI_ actually I am not that good at linux so maybe u should pretend when helping people out that they know nothing in terminal
[15:45] <dspstv> hi all, need some advice on how to solve this under natty
[15:45] <dspstv> E: Build-Depends dependency for wine1.3 cannot be satisfied because the package docbook-to-man cannot be found
[15:46] <jrib> dspstv: do you have the main repository enabled?
[15:46] <soziety_> I am trying to execute a code in etc/network like this zenity --warning --title "...::: Internet Block :::..." and don't run, could you help me?
[15:47] <cryoniccore> AI_ but anyways thanks for the help
[15:47] <jdummy> Hi All.  Anyone have any idea why audio doesn't get passed through from line-in to headphone out on my ubuntu box?
[15:47] <AI_> cryoniccore: no problem
[15:48] <dspstv> jrib: i did an update and yes, i have all those main reps there
[15:48] <jrib> dspstv: pastebin the result of: « apt-cache policy docbook-to-man »
[15:48] <jdummy> The line-in works, because audio properties shows visuals that follow the audio, but I cannot hear the audio from my headphones
[15:48] <cryoniccore> AI_ yea when I changed directories and used the Commands that u gave me. The installation worked great :)
[15:48] <dspstv> just a minute please jrib, and thanks btw
[15:49] <soziety_> I am trying to execute a code in etc/network like this
[15:49] <soziety_> #!/bin/sh
[15:49] <soziety_> zenity --warning --title "example"
[15:49] <soziety_> and dont run
[15:49] <soziety_> it's called by other process
[15:49] <jrib> soziety_: please don't use enter to break up your thoughts.  What do you mean by "trying to execute a code in etc/network"?
[15:50] <dspstv> jrib: http://pastebin.com/twbNziUf
[15:50] <jrib> dspstv: pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list*
[15:51] <soziety_> sorry jrib, I am making a code it's called by NetworkManager when internet is falling down
[15:52] <jrib> soziety_: environment probably differs.  Maybe call "zenity" with full path or provide appropriate DISPLAY environment variable
[15:52] <soziety_> ok thnks jrib
[15:55] <contrast> Greets, everyone... Anybody know which package contains the development files for gettext? I've been struggling for the past ~20 minutes to find it so I can compile GJay (http://gjay.sourceforge.net/), but regardless of what I install, its autogen.sh script keeps complaining that gettext isn't installed.
[15:56] <xman> hello
[15:57] <dspstv> jrib: http://pastebin.com/ZitL6r5p
[15:58] <dspstv> jrib: thats what i got under /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade
[15:58] <sipior> contrast: you've got gettext, gettext-base and autotools-dev installed?
[15:58] <jrib> dspstv: what do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list?  And /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*?
[15:58] <AlexDevilLX> how to become root and superuser
[15:59] <corrytonapple> AlexDevilLX, type su -
[15:59] <tsimpson> AlexDevilLX: use "sudo -i" to get a root shell
[15:59] <contrast> sipior: Check... but thanks anyway.
[15:59] <szal> !root | AlexDevilLX
[15:59] <tsimpson> not "su -"
[15:59] <wrd> !audio
[15:59] <dspstv> jrib: i have no plain /etc/apt/sources.list i had installed a crappy application suggeested everywhere to "optimize" ubuntu and seems it got removed
[15:59] <tsimpson> contrast: what is the exact error message?
[15:59] <corrytonapple> tsimpson:  I was able to do that on my Ubuntu.
[15:59] <jrib> dspstv: and you have nothing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?
[15:59] <tsimpson> corrytonapple: then you set a root password, which is not supported here
[15:59] <sipior> contrast: error might be in the software you're trying to install. it's autotools-based, i assume?
[16:00] <corrytonapple> A root password in not supported where?
[16:00] <contrast> tsimpson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/638469
[16:01] <eross> how do i a cli search through source files for a definition
[16:01] <pat201> if i were to download something that came in amd64 or x86, how could i tell which version i needed?
[16:01] <dspstv> jrib: http://pastebin.com/PrtE0yUr
[16:01] <jrib> eross: grep searches files
[16:01] <eross> ok
[16:01] <AlexDevilLX> So sudo su vs su -i
[16:01] <dilruk> who can help me configure ALPS touchpad on my VAIO
[16:02] <jrib> dspstv: generate a proper sources.list using software-properties-gtk
[16:02] <contrast> sipior: That thought crossed my mind, but quite a while back I always ran into this issue when compiling a certain E17 app and installing a certain package cleared it right up... I'm running out of options for what to install at this point though.
[16:02] <wrd> I have a really weird sound related problem. Mic is not working. and as soon as I install pulseaudio the sound stops working (I for some unknown reason to me I can't kill it without respawning), when I remove pulseaudio it works (except) the mic. any suggestions where I might dig in?
[16:02] <AlexDevilLX> dilruk: It's always a problem to configure touchpad on sony
[16:02] <sipior> contrast: could i get you to pastebin the error the build gives?
[16:02] <dilruk> AlexDevilLX: So theres no way?
[16:02] <tsimpson> contrast: does running "autopoint --version" work?
[16:02] <sipior> contrast: actually, the whole build output, if you could.
[16:03] <AlexDevilLX> dilruk: there is, simply my friend had a problem too.
[16:03] <corrytonapple> How is setting a root password not supported "here"?
[16:03] <jdevel> ?
[16:03] <dilruk> AlexDevilLX: Can you point me somewhere with a guide or anything useful? Im kinda new to this
[16:03] <KM0201> corrytonapple: because ubuntu uses sudo
[16:03] <jdevel> setting a root password, having issues with that?
[16:04] <corrytonapple> I can do it in Debian, and wondered if I could do it with Ubuntu
[16:04] <corrytonapple> It always says the password is wrong when I do it
[16:04] <Pici> corrytonapple: You can do it, but we don't support the issues that you might have with it.
[16:04] <szal> corrytonapple: you can do so at your own discretion, but don't expect us to help you w/ that
[16:04] <corrytonapple> What issues may come aboard>
[16:04] <tsimpson> corrytonapple: being able to and it being supported are not the same thing, having the root password disabled is a security feature that you should not disable
[16:05] <KM0201> corrytonapple: if you don't know, then its just best to use sudo... if you need a constant root terminal, use sudo -i
[16:05] <corrytonapple> What issues may be caused?
[16:05] <AlexDevilLX> dilruk: which ubuntu?
[16:05] <KM0201> corrytonapple: google...
[16:05] <dilruk> AlexDevilLX: its Natty
[16:05] <contrast> tsimpson: autopoint was the key. A million thanks. :D
[16:05] <dw-_> the root username is vulnerable
[16:05] <sipior> corrytonapple: the biggest issue is that the ubuntu sshd still (still!) permits remote logins as root by default. you'll need to turn that feature off, or at least be on guard for brute dictionary attacks against your machine.
[16:06] <tsimpson> contrast: it should be part of the "gettext" package anyway, or at least it is on my system
[16:06] <sipior> corrytonapple: they're quite common.
[16:06] <corrytonapple> Even on household machines they are common?
[16:06] <jdevel> only if it's exposed to the external net
[16:06] <corrytonapple> I am not running a server here or anything.
[16:06] <corrytonapple> Debian than has that as a security hole....
[16:06] <sipior> corrytonapple: then it likely doesn't matter.
[16:06] <jdevel> otherwise a hardware firewall should mitigate all that
[16:07] <contrast> tsimpson: Not here (on 11.04)-- had to install the autopoint package... Anyway, thanks again. Peace out.
[16:07] <jdevel> servers and desktops can be remotely logged into so, if it's exposed to the WAN your a potential target
[16:07] <corrytonapple> So then what does su - currently do if there is no password?
[16:08] <jdevel> prompts for a password
[16:08] <jdevel> then fails regardless of the input
[16:08] <dspstv> jrib: thanks, it was all cause by a software called Tweak,, crappy stuff that help for nothing
[16:08] <jrib> dspstv: no problem
[16:09] <corrytonapple> Regardless of the input.  I guess then I should not go for it.  So the issues are getting cracked into and then no body wants to be responsible for me?  I would not want anybody to be responsible for me.....
[16:09] <jdevel> are you just here to troll?
[16:09] <shash> hiiiiiiiiiiii
[16:09] <corrytonapple> Who?
[16:09] <jdevel> you
[16:09] <dilruk> AlexDevilLX: Anything u can find?
[16:09] <sipior> corrytonapple: do what you like, it's your own computer! but do try sudo out. it allows for a great deal of flexibility.
[16:10] <corrytonapple> No.  I was asking why setting a root password was a bad idea?  How so is that trolling?
[16:10] <tsimpson> corrytonapple: the point is that we don't support you removing a security feature or the issues that arise from you removing that feature
[16:10] <AlexDevilLX> dilruk: nope
[16:10] <dilruk> AlexDevilLX: ok thanks anyways
[16:10] <corrytonapple> Thanks sipior!   I just knew Debian used it, and did not know of the sudo -i feature.  thanks for the tips
[16:10] <cordoval> hi is it normal that /var/lib/php5 belongs to root?
[16:11] <cordoval> I am having permission errors because web can't write or read from /var/lib/php5
[16:11] <cordoval> what should I do?
[16:11] <corrytonapple> tsimpson:  No one should be responsible for anything I do.  If you guys say don't do it, then I won't .  thanks for the tip to be in a root terminal though.  To the guys that accused me of trolling:  How is that?  I asked a question....
[16:11] <krisss117> how to repair dhcp
[16:11] <krisss117> client
[16:11] <krisss117> ??
[16:12] <sipior> krisss117: depends on what's wrong with it, i would imagine.
[16:12] <shash> i wnat chating software for facebook? give me suggestion
[16:12] <nimi> hello, i would like some help for a problem ive been having lately
[16:12] <KM0201> corrytonapple: you don't eve need a root terminal, just open a noermal terminal,    sudo -i   enter your password, and you have a root prompt, if thats what you want (although i can't really understand why you'd need it)
[16:12] <cordoval> http://www.kriswillis.com/index.php/2010/09/09/ps_files_cleanup_dir-opendirvarlibphp5-failed-permission-denied-13/
[16:12] <cordoval> thank you man
[16:13] <Roasted> Is there a way I can make a bin bash script execute @ ALT+F2 when I type in the name of the script and hit enter?
[16:13] <nimi> i will like to automatically detect an hdmi connection and also automatically change the audio to hdmi too
[16:13] <Pici> Roasted: It needs to be within your $PATH
[16:13] <nimi> is there a way / script to make this happen ?
[16:13] <Roasted> Pici, can you elaborate a little more please?
[16:13] <nimi> hope im not in the wrong channel...
[16:14] <Pici> Roasted: You need to put the script, or a symlink to your script within your user's $PATH.
[16:14] <corrytonapple> KM0201:  I broke my system (it was a bug with 10.10, and it crashed during the install of updates to 11.04   I needed to go in recovery mode and repair it, then get to the live system and preform a lot of commands that required root.  But I really like Ubuntu's sudo setup.
[16:15] <Roasted> Pici, so it's based on location of the script as to whether or not this idea will work?
[16:15] <KM0201> corrytonapple: recovery mode automatically boots as root.
[16:15] <corrytonapple> Thanks for the help guys.  I will go back to just watching and waiting to help.
[16:15] <xukun> hi all. with apt-get dist-upgrade my system is telling me that  it want to replace /etc/deault/grub with new file but the grub boot loader was previously installed to a disk that is no longer present. I have 4 disk/partitions to choose from.
[16:15] <corrytonapple> KM0201, That is what I thought
[16:15] <Pici> Roasted: If you're not sure if it will run, then just provide the full path and see if it works..
[16:15] <nimi> :(
[16:16] <nimi> hello, i would like some help for a problem ive been having lately
[16:16] <nimi> i will like to automatically detect an hdmi connection and also automatically change the audio to hdmi too
[16:16] <Roasted> Pici, it's just a script that starts/stops my dhcp server. so if I run dhcpstart, it should run sudo service isc-dhcp-server start, etc. That's all the script is.
[16:17] <nimi> is there a way / script to make this happen ?
[16:17] <Jordan_U> xukun: How many *disks* are there as options? (you never want to install grub to a partition)
[16:17] <Roasted> Pici, when I had the scripts in my home directory, alt+f2 simply "searched" for them and brought them to me. th at's all it did.
[16:17] <Roasted> Pici, perhaps its location was why?
[16:17] <royale1223> "wine: Install Mono for Windows to run .NET 2.0 applications" How do i accomplish this?
[16:17] <dr_willis> !info mono
[16:17] <Pici> Roasted: so the script requires sudo... you'll either need to start a gnome-terminal and run the script using that, or start gksudo with your script.
[16:17] <dr_willis> theres a mono package.. somewhere.. :)
[16:18] <Pici> Roasted: ~/ is not typically in your path. ~/bin/ might be.
[16:18] <dr_willis> royale1223,   apt-cache search mono      and install what looks right
[16:18] <Roasted> Pici, well since I have "sudo" in the script, if I run dhcpstart in terminal, it asks for PW, then runs accordingly.
[16:18] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I'm using yakuake which appears on F12 but also when I move my mouse to the top of my screen which I kinda dislike. Any possibility to stop this?
[16:18] <xxghostxx> Hello.  I recently created a normal user account (belonging to sudo group so that I would not have to use my root account), and I have a question that I hope is easily answered.  As root, my command prompt looks like "root@hostname:/home#".  As a normal user, I get $ and nothing else.  I find it very informative to know what directory i'm currently in, and what user I am executing commands as, and on what hostname.  I keep open multiple split screen
[16:18] <xxghostxx>  windows to different serves, so having the format of user@host:dir# is extremely helpful.  does anyone know how to enable this for a normal user?
[16:19] <Pici> Roasted: Yes, but when you run it from alt-f2, its not running it in a terminal.
[16:19] <dr_willis> KNUBBIG,  you checked its settings? i think its an option
[16:19] <FollowerofMendax> is it a "good" idea to install GNOME as a  replacement to unity in natty narhwal
[16:19] <KNUBBIG> dr_willis: yes I did but saw nothing
[16:19] <KNUBBIG> dr_willis: will try again :)
[16:19] <dr_willis> xxghostxx,  set their .bashrc to set a prompt how you like
[16:19] <dr_willis> !prompt
[16:19] <dr_willis> xxghostxx,  theres a bash prompt howto - thats very detailed.
[16:19] <xxghostxx> !prompt
[16:20] <Roasted> Pici, I gotcha. makes sense. I just thought I'd get prompted for a pw then.
[16:20] <nit-wit> FollowerofMendax, you knpw of the classic desktop available at login correct?
[16:21] <xxghostxx> dr_willis:  thanks.  The ubottu didn't know what prompt was, but I'm googleing now
[16:21] <FollowerofMendax> no
[16:21] <Roasted> Pici, I'm going to test it now. thanks.
[16:21] <nit-wit> FollowerofMendax, at the boot in choose your name look dwn and hit the drop down choose classic desktop
[16:21] <Pici> FollowerofMendax: If you don't like using Unity, then use GNOME instead, just pick Classic Ubuntu from your login screen.
[16:23] <xxghostxx> dr_willis: can i just copy over the .bashrc file from root to the user?
[16:24] <xxghostxx> because i notice i don't have tab complete or coloring or anything
[16:24] <xskydevilx> gui++ font smoothing for Linux? Any alternatives?
[16:24] <smialy> ecoprima.pl
[16:24] <amartin> Hi everybody. I'm thinking of buying an external blu-ray LG BE12LU30. Does anybody knows if this is going to worke well on ubuntu?
[16:24] <dilruk> Anybody know how i can configure ALPS touchpad correctly?
[16:26] <tertl3> no sound in flash, please help ?
[16:27] <Pici> dilruk: Have you looked over this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad ?
[16:27] <nimi> can someone help me in hdmi issue ?
[16:28] <dilruk> Pici: is SynapticsTouchpad same as ALPS?
[16:28] <dr_willis> nimi,  so you somehow turn on/off hdmi sound when you need it now?
[16:29] <soziety> How can I send  a pop-up message from bash?
[16:29] <dr_willis> soziety,  send it where?
[16:29] <nimi> dr_willis, mhhh, thats not really the issue
[16:30] <soziety> something like this http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pizza.png
[16:30] <nimi> dr_willis,  i want to switch automatically audio and video to hdmi when is plugged, and opossite way when is unplugged
[16:30] <crazedpsyc> I upgraded to oneiric yesterday (Yes, I know, I shouldn't have...) and it was working alright-ish, although the FS kept getting corrupted. So this last time that happened, I shut down to get into recovery mode and fsck. I got a strange boot error like "Please insert a proper boot medium". So... I tried a couple more times with no luck. I finally just inserted my 10.04 livecd and got in here. Now it looks as though my hard drive is
[16:30] <nimi> dr_willis, is hard for me to think that noone yet found a way to do this
[16:30] <Pici> dilruk: No, but supposedly the synpatic drivers work with it.
[16:31] <dr_willis> nimi,  so.. how are you switching now? or are you even switching at all.. thats what i asked.
[16:31] <i2iot> Whats the shortcut to close a window in ubuntu?
[16:31] <crazedpsyc> Oh, forgot to mention, I'm on a wubi install
[16:31] <nimi> dr_willis, being googleing it for an hour or so, and NOthING :S
[16:31] <soziety> something like this <dr_willis> http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pizza.png
[16:31] <nimi> dr_willis, obviously, i use nvidia control center and pulseaudio tool to switch
[16:31] <quaisi> i2iot: ctrl w
[16:31] <dr_willis> soziety,  theres a way to use the ubuntu notify bubbles in a script..  i forget the command.. then i just saw this -> http://www.doknowevil.net/2010/06/25/ubuntu-notifications-osd-notify-sucks-notifications-daemon-rocks-exploiting-the-goodness-with-compiz/
[16:32] <dr_willis> nimi,  then theres proberly some pulse cli tools. but they may not be installed by default.
[16:32] <soziety> thanks dr_willis
[16:33] <dr_willis> pulse audio has so many tricks and features its easy to overlook them all. ive only just scratched the surface of pulse in my reading about it.
[16:33] <nimi> dr_willis, but is pretty annoying to do both actions every time, there should be a way
[16:33] <nimi> dr_willis, mhh, what about the hdmi video ?
[16:33] <xxghostxx> Ok, not sure what is wrong.  I set PS1="\u@\h:\w#" and now my prompt shows that literally instead of user@host:workingdir#
[16:34] <xxghostxx> also noticing that if i push the left or right arrow, my cursor doesn't actually go left or right.  It gives me two symbols.  this only happens as a normal user, not root
[16:35] <DanC_> the USB flash drives from my phone sometimes won't mount. How is it suppose to work? Is pmount a good work-around?
[16:36] <dr_willis> !info pulseaudio-utils
[16:36] <nimi> dr_willis, and amazingly, theres no documentation anywhere about this
[16:37] <phearret> hi all, can I plz get some help with my RTL8101E/RTL8102E wireless?
[16:37] <marco1975> hello
[16:37] <dr_willis>  looking at  /usr/share/doc/pulseaudio-utils    right now nimi
[16:37] <marco1975> i'm new user from today
[16:37] <VCoolio> xxghostxx: try this in .bashrc, http://pastebin.com/2iFW9kpF
[16:37] <i2iot> Can I increase my mouse sensitivity beyond what Ubuntu's maximum is?
[16:38] <dr_willis> nimi,  there is a #pulseaudio channel it seems
[16:38] <VCoolio> xxghostxx: also check http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/
[16:38] <soziety> could I use python from bash?
[16:38] <nimi> dr_willis, i meant in the forums of ppl that wanted to make this happen
[16:39] <dr_willis> soziety,  you can run python from  the shell.. yes
[16:39] <royale1223> how can i cahnge the background color of lynx browser.
[16:39] <royale1223> how can i cahnge the background color of lynx browser?
[16:39] <scensis_> I'm having some trouble with the clock on Ubuntu 11.04. It's too slow and can't tell the right time. Now it is 20 minutes behind the real time. How can i fix this? :)
[16:39] <VCoolio> soziety: you can call a python script from bash, but what for?
[16:40] <quaisi> scensis: do you have the time set from the internet automatically?
[16:40] <scensis_> quaisi, yes
[16:40] <phearret> dr_willis .. do you have a minute or 2 when done ?
[16:41] <dr_willis> nimi,  i notice a 'padevchooser' tool that puts an icon in the systray. but thats about all ive noticed.
[16:41] <soziety> for make a pop-up notify like this http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pizza.png
[16:41] <dr_willis> phearret,  whats up?
[16:41] <soziety> for make a pop-up notify like this http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pizza.png VCoolio
[16:41] <KNUBBIG> dr_willis: sorry phone rang ;-) Can't seem to find an option to disable that in yakuake
[16:41] <phearret> can I plz get some help with my RTL8101E/RTL8102E wireless
[16:41] <dr_willis> soziety,  thats using the ubuntu notify-osd feature. there are command line tools that let you create such things.. i just cant rember the command
[16:41] <phearret> i did the update to natty and seems to be disabled ... still
[16:41] <VCoolio> soziety: notify-send, it's in libnotify-bin package
[16:42] <royale1223> how can i change the background color of lynx browser?
[16:42] <soziety> yes but I have to installed
[16:42] <soziety> the package
[16:42] <scensis_> quaisi, Apparently it is not set to automatic from the internett. How can i set it back?
[16:42] <VCoolio> soziety: install, then: notify-send "Pizza is ready" "finished just now"
[16:42] <xxghostxx> VCoolio: that didn't work either
[16:42] <soziety> from python I haven't instal anything
[16:43] <quaisi> scensis: click on the clock icon and then time and date settings
[16:43] <VCoolio> soziety: what if you add display: DISPLAY=:0 notify-send blah
[16:43] <nimi> dr_willis, thx for your help :)
[16:43] <scensis_> quaisi, I'm using Ubuntu classic btw. So it's a little different than when i used Unity =/
[16:44] <SegFaultAX> Is it just me or is kernel.org not following the appropriate mirroring guidelines for the ubuntu mirror?
[16:44] <devilchaos> hi folks can someone please give me a link to the latest apt souces list page please?
[16:44] <dr_willis> KNUBBIG,  i may bne thinking of guake
[16:44] <soziety> ok thnks I'm looking for about diasplay in google. I'm noob in ubuntu sorry
[16:45] <quaisi> scensis: me too.  If I click on the clock in the top right corner a calendar pops up and underneath that is a setting to change the time and date.  If you click on that you can change the clock to set automatically from the internet
[16:45] <VCoolio> soziety: just add DISPLAY=:0 in front of the notify-send command, is all I meant
[16:45] <dr_willis> KNUBBIG,  but i sware i saw it in Yakuake.. but i cant even find its settings box now.
[16:45] <KNUBBIG> dr_willis: it's right somewhere on a drop down button :-)
[16:45] <phearret> dr_willis ..  lshw -C network shows  *-network DISABLED for my PRO/Wireless 4965 Kendron RTL8101E/RTL8102E
[16:46] <SegFaultAX> kernel.org seems to get more than a few days out of date sometimes :(
[16:46] <scensis_> quaisi, strange.. I dont get that option when i click on the clock. Only see the calendar and "Locations"
[16:46] <KNUBBIG> dr_willis: and you where right, it wasn't in the 'normal' preferences but I found it now. thanks a lot
[16:46] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install libnotify-bin        then    notify-send "Pizza is ready" "finished just now"
[16:46] <dr_willis> KNUBBIG,  where did ya even find it at? i still cant find it now
[16:46] <quaisi> scensis: ok how about system - preferences - time and date?
[16:47] <lapaga> royale1223, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/lynx-colours-how-can-i-do-that-582681/
[16:47] <dr_willis> KNUBBIG,  ahh.. those colors/buttons seem so hard to see on my system
[16:47] <KNUBBIG> dr_willis: I have a button on the right lower end of my yakuake and when I click it, a small drop down menu shows up. On this I click Configure Yakuake and then I have a tab where I can choose behaviour :) ah ok
[16:47] <devilchaos> ok better qestion what is the latest release of ubuntu and ill just change it in the souces list i.e instead of lucid it would be?
[16:47] <scensis_> quaisi, That was better. But i see now that it is set to update auto from the internett. :S
[16:48] <Magic_Hobo> the latest is natty
[16:48] <royale1223> how can i change the background color of lynx browser?
[16:48] <devilchaos> cool cheers
[16:48] <dr_willis> devilchaos,  i saw that asked on askubuntu.com the other day.  several people posted default sources.lists for the various relaees I belive
[16:48] <devilchaos> eh?
[16:48] <quaisi> scensis: d'oh.  I could suggest setting it to manual :) unless the location isn't correct?
[16:48] <dr_willis> devilchaos,  the askubuntu.com has listings of them
[16:49] <devilchaos> aw ok cheers
[16:49] <scensis_> quaisi,  The location is correct :( Is there a way to modiy when and how often ubuntu sends out NTP polls?
[16:49] <LogicallyDashing> Pidgin normally lets me configure a proxy for just the one application. But in Ubuntu it does everything through GNOME preferences. I'd prefer to manage this on a per-application basis. How do I do that?
[16:49] <phearret> dr_willis .. have they found a way to fix the issue ??
[16:49] <dr_willis> royale1223,  check the options, and the colors config file
[16:50] <royale1223> dr_willis: thanks
[16:50] <quaisi> scensis: sorry that's a bit beyond my knowledge.  Perhaps someone else could suggest something - unless setting it manually helps?
[16:50] <dr_willis> phearret,  i rarely pay attention to wireless issues.. I just dont use wireless that much. (i wired my house) :)
[16:51] <phearret> lucky you ... I don't have the luxury ATM and need wifi as freely available
[16:51] <scensis_> quaisi, I think i tried setting it manually once. But can't hurt to try once more :) I'll try that before i try something else. Thanks :)
[16:51] <phearret> I can scan with wifi-radar and it sees the networks, I just can't connect
[16:51] <xxghostxx> k.  for anyone who was following on the bash problem, i figured it out. the default shell for a new user is /bin/sh which uses a dumb down shell called dash.  i just ran chsh -s /bin/bash username to change it to the bash shell and now all works like it should
[16:52] <quaisi> scensis: no worries - I'm sure if you stick around someone can help you further
[16:52] <dr_willis> xxghostxx,  thats incorrect...  - dash is 'sh'  bash technically when called as 'sh' should have the same features/errors..
[16:53] <dr_willis> xxghostxx,  if your scripts are using bash features they should be calling #!/bin/bash   not #!/bin/sh
[16:53] <xxghostxx> dr_willis:  when i did echo $SHELL it said my user was using shell /bin/sh.  so i changed it to so my user uses /bin/dash.  now when i have files with #!/bin/bash it shows correctly
[16:53] <dr_willis> remeber that the 'system' shell is 'sh' which is 'dash' not bash..
[16:54] <xxghostxx> */bin/bash
[16:54] <xxghostxx> blash
[16:54] <dr_willis>  /bin/bash should always work when called as bash.
[16:54] <xxghostxx> i can't type today
[16:54] <ruan> how would i delete files that were encrypted with windows?
[16:54] <dr_willis>  bash technically should flag an error if its called as /bin/sh   and you use bash features..
[16:55] <xxghostxx> yah.  it works now that i changed it. before it was using /bin/sh (i guess for some reason useradd defaults to /bin/sh) which apparently is dash in Ubuntu.
[16:55] <dr_willis> a Users shell.. shouldent be sh. :) but ive seen vps's do that.
[16:55] <jkeats> i'd really, really appreciate it if somebody could help me with an iptables issue
[16:55] <jkeats> http://paste.ubuntu.com/638488/
[16:55] <dr_willis> xxghostxx,  use adduser perhaps?
[16:55] <dr_willis> I cant recall ever using useradd in all the yeas ive messed with linux. :)
[16:55] <jkeats> dr_willis: i use it almost every day
[16:55] <jkeats> useradd -m foo
[16:55] <dr_willis> sudo adduser billgates
[16:55] <xxghostxx> dr_willis: i'll use adduser next new user create :)  just annoying.  is there a way to make the default shell always be /bin/bash instead of /bin/sh?
[16:55] <dr_willis> :)
[16:56] <dr_willis> xxghostxx,  adduser dioes it that way
[16:56] <jkeats> dr_willis: it's a matter of preference
[16:56] <dr_willis> useradd proberly requires you to define the settings more exactly
[16:56] <dr_willis> I seem tor ecall some adduser vs useradd debate in here once
[16:56] <jkeats> dr_willis: indeed. but it's not available on old platforms. like irix and old solaris.
[16:56] <jkeats> so i'm just an old haxor. that's all.
[16:56] <dr_willis> !info superadduser
[16:56] <xxghostxx> yah.  i can do -s /bin/bash and it would've doen it.  but if i don't use the -s flag, then it uses the default shell (which apprently my system is configured to make default /bin/sh)
[16:56] <dr_willis> :)
[16:57] <jkeats> any help on the iptables thing?
[16:57] <jkeats> i bumped to natty and the ip forwarding stopped working
[16:58] <Osmodivs> Hello. I only have a few minutes before my system freezes, and force me to turn it off. Where can I find what's wrong? a log perhaps and then show it to you?
[16:58] <mass0ud> Today I tried to boot my eeepc with an ubuntu installation and when the kernel was loading it complained that my root filesystem didn't exist, Then it threw me into a initramfs prompt
[16:58] <mass0ud> What could be the problem?
[16:58] <mass0ud> The system was working perfectly last night
[16:58] <guampa> jkeats: all i could identify was redundant rules, don't see why you randomize the source port either. whats the problem?  maybe if you state it..
[16:58] <n-iCe> Hi, I installed my vendor wireless card drivers, but when I reboot the pc, the driver is like no activated, I need to unplug and plug my wireless usb card to make it work, any idea why?
[16:59] <jkeats> guampa: the internal hosts don't route to external hosts
[16:59] <jkeats> eth2 is the "external" interface. do i have them backwards?
[16:59] <guampa> tried without the random stuff? with a static source for the snat
[16:59] <jkeats> from hosts attached to eth3 i can't get out via eth2
[16:59] <jkeats> static source for the snat as in an IP rather than an interface?
[16:59] <guitar_dave> sup auspicious panel of intellectuals?
[16:59] <jkeats> guitar_dave: hardly :/
[16:59] <guitar_dave> :)
[17:00] <jkeats> guampa: tried without random, added that for paranoia.
[17:00] <guampa> mh
[17:00] <guampa> with snat source you have to refer to an ip address anyway
[17:00] <KM0201> guitar_dave: answer your PM
[17:00] <kersurk> Hi
[17:00] <jkeats> oh ok
[17:01] <jkeats> i was reading the manpage and it said with static addresses to use SNAT instead of MASQUERADE so i changed to SNAT
[17:01] <guampa> use the ip of eth2
[17:01] <jkeats> ok
[17:01] <jkeats> let me rejigger
[17:01] <kersurk> gnome-panel nor unity shows up anymore. gnome-panel --replace, metacity... nothing helps
[17:01] <kersurk> any help
[17:01] <jkeats> and what lines were redundant or are you missing that i'm actually forwarding two interfaces
[17:02] <kersurk> is there any way to start metacity in verbose mode to see any kind of log
[17:02] <kersurk> or sth
[17:02] <kersurk> I meant gnome-panel*
[17:02] <Osmodivs> Is there anyway to fix SYNAPTIC? I can't open it to update  and I can't even open the ubuntu Software Center  http://pastebin.com/cn0dSVZB
[17:02] <jkeats> and how exactly does --to-source work?
[17:02] <jkeats> is <IP_ADDRESS> not okay there?
[17:03] <jkeats> where should that point?
[17:03] <jkeats> the external default router?
[17:03] <kersurk> Osmodivs: does apt-get work?
[17:03] <guampa> well -m state is the default so you don't have to explicitly include that, and --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED just use one for every filter chain, and it will work the same
[17:03] <guampa> without constraining it to some interface combo or anything
[17:03] <jkeats> guampa: ok, i was reading an interwebs howto on that part
[17:03] <llutz> jkeats:  .... --to-source <SERVER'S_EXTERNAL_IP>
[17:04] <n-iCe> hi, I installed my vendors usb wireless card drivers
[17:04] <jkeats> llutz: thank you
[17:04] <n-iCe> hi, I installed my vendors usb wireless card drivers, but after reboot I need to unplug and plug the usb card to make it work and to make wlan1 shown up, any idea why? thanks
[17:05] <Osmodivs> kersurk, I get another type of message
[17:05] <jkeats> llutz / guampa so the --to-source and --out-interface on the SNAT line should both be $EXT_IP?
[17:05] <llutz> jkeats: --out-interface   is not an ip
[17:05] <mass0ud> Today I tried to boot my eeepc with an ubuntu installation and when the kernel was loading it complained that my root filesystem didn't exist, Then it threw me into a initramfs prompt
[17:05] <Osmodivs> kersurk,  W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64 (20110427.1)/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[17:05] <Osmodivs> W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64 (20110427.1)/dists/natty/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[17:05] <Osmodivs> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/boost-latest/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[17:05] <Osmodivs> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/boost-latest/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[17:05] <jkeats> so keep that eth2 then..?
[17:05] <Osmodivs> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[17:06] <llutz> jkeats: yes
[17:06] <jkeats> Osmodivs: nopaste
[17:06] <Senjai> Osmodivs: use pastebin.org for lots of text, dont spam the channel
[17:06] <Osmodivs> kersurk,  I have the Apt-getCD in the reader
[17:06] <guampa> no, you are supposed to be trying to use --out-interface as a precondition, meanwhile --to-address is a parameter for the action of SNAT
[17:06] <Osmodivs> Senjai, THAT IS NOT SPAM
[17:06] <guampa> (jkeats)
[17:07] <Osmodivs> Senjai, Read it!!
[17:07] <llutz> !paste | Osmodivs it IS spam, use pastebin or whatever
[17:07] <Senjai> Osmodivs: It makes reading other peoples problems harder, for multi-line text use pastebin
[17:07] <kersurk> Osmodivs: it's a busy channel, a multiline log is a kind of spam
[17:07] <Myrtti> moving on
[17:07] <jkeats> http://paste.ubuntu.com/638495/
[17:07] <jkeats> looking better llutz / guampa ?
[17:08] <jkeats> and should add an exit 255 to the depmod if clause
[17:08] <trinimoses> hi all
[17:09] <jkeats> ah-ha
[17:09] <trinimoses> i got an ubuntu 10.04 box that i remote into using teamviewer.. but i get a display error and then ym screen goes blank once the system starts the screen saver
[17:09] <Osmodivs> I can't open Synaptic: E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_earth_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. How do I fix this?
[17:09] <jkeats> guampa, llutz
[17:09] <jkeats> thank you
[17:09] <jkeats> you are tres awesome.
[17:09] <jkeats> i now has forwarding. :)
[17:09] <guampa> checkin it out gimme a sec
[17:10] <AlphaAtom> I recently installed Ubuntu, because I messed up my windows install, but when I try to play Minecraft on Ubuntu, I overheat, I never used to overheat on Windows, could changing the Large Disk Access mode in the bios prevent overheats?
[17:10] <guampa> then its all good :) not exactly like i would be doing it but "hey ..."
[17:10] <AlphaAtom> Also, will changing that cause loss of data?
[17:10] <jkeats> kind of silly that i can get tor/polipo/etc set up on the router but can't figure out iptables?
[17:11] <jkeats> guampa: please, tell me how you would do it. my background is with pf on openbsd. iptables is strange to me
[17:11] <edbian> AlphaAtom: You want to leave Large Disk Access mode on.  It allows you to use a Large HDD (where large is something like 10+ GB)
[17:11] <n-iCe> hi, I installed my vendors usb wireless card drivers, but after reboot I need to unplug and plug the usb card to make it work and to make wlan1 shown up, any idea why? thanks
[17:11] <guampa> iptables is nice if you grasp the subroutine oriented nature of it
[17:11] <AlphaAtom> I meant changing it from DOS to Other
[17:12] <AlphaAtom> It recommends changing it to Other if you're on a Unix system, but I've found everything works fine without changing it, except the overheats
[17:12] <jkeats> so you're saying you'd use ufw?
[17:12] <guampa> jkeats: k i was prepping a paste for you, hang in
[17:12] <jkeats> i found ufw to be equally complicated :/
[17:12] <guampa> no i use iptables-save/restore and a custom script for net setup
[17:13] <jkeats> well, great. looking forward to the paste.
[17:14] <j3roth> Question: Does Ubuntu have a remote server management tools, like SpaceWalk, Satellite Server etc?
[17:14] <guampa> jkeats: lunch calls :/ will have to be later
[17:14] <jkeats> guampa: can you /msg me?
[17:14] <guampa> be back in an hour
[17:14] <guampa> allright no prob
[17:14] <jkeats> sure later
[17:14] <jkeats> thanks again
[17:14] <guampa> yw
[17:14]  * jkeats relaunches under screen
[17:15] <Electron> Does XChat allow you to split screens between chat windows?
[17:16] <o0o0> Electron: how about detach
[17:17] <AlphaAtom> Should I change my Large Disk Access mode to Other if I'm using Ubuntu
[17:17] <AlphaAtom> It overheats when I play Minecraft and this never happened on Windows
[17:17] <Electron> o0o0, I was thinking of maybe an option like mIRC has were you can view both channels side by side.
[17:18] <o0o0> nice1
[17:22] <Snake__> Hi
[17:22] <Snake__> guys can you tell me of the name of a program that can convert MOV TO VOB
[17:23] <Snake__> Hi guys
[17:23] <tobia_> !list
[17:23] <tobia_> !list
[17:25] <zmoazeni> Hi guys. Quick question, do changes to /etc/security/limits.conf require a reboot? I'm talking primarily about changes in # of open files. We made the change and they haven't seemed to take affect.
[17:27] <brahim> hello
[17:27] <brahim> i have a small question can any one help me plz?
[17:28] <rcmaehl> Help! I'm being DDoS'd how can I redirect all the DDoS
[17:28] <Magic_Hobo> sure wut is it?
[17:28] <rcmaehl> traffic?
[17:28] <brahim> i want to create a database with a billion of data mysql go crazy
[17:28] <brahim> so i looked in the internet i found cassandra used by facebook
[17:28] <wrd> !pulse
[17:29] <brahim> can any one help plz?
[17:29] <Diverdude> What is the reasoning behind focusing on the original window instead of the new window opened when double clicking e.g. an image in nautilus???
[17:31] <Pici> buhman: I don't see a question there.
[17:31] <n-iCe> hi, how do I make wlan1 appear? without unplug and plugin my usb wireless card?
[17:31] <Diverdude> any1?
[17:32] <brahim> any one can help please?
[17:32] <Magic_Hobo> wuts ur question?
[17:32] <jonne> the sound menu suddenly can't see remote audio sinks any more. Padevchooser can still see them, though. Already tried rebooting both boxes. Any ideas, anyone?
[17:32] <Ampelbein> brahim: you didn't ask a question yet.
[17:32] <pdtpatrick> zmoazeni, i believe so
[17:32] <Magic_Hobo> lol ya we kinda need to know wut it is so we can answer it :P
[17:32] <jonne> i didn't install/uninstall anything that could cause this, afaik
[17:34] <semitones> are there any symbols other than numbers that cause a folder to be first in an alphabetical list in ubuntu
[17:34] <brahim> Ampelbein i did ok my question is : i want to create a database with bellion of data GB or TB i tried mysql but it gona grazy when a lot of data
[17:34] <semitones> things like $ and % seem to defer to the next letter
[17:34] <caedmon> does anyone have experience installing ubuntu server 10.04 on a Dell poweredge 2850?
[17:34] <TheEvilPhoenix> caedmon, depends
[17:34] <TheEvilPhoenix> caedmon, are you running into issues>?
[17:34] <schnuffle> caedmon: only on 2940/50
[17:34] <BluesKaj> jonne, yeah if you absolutely eed pulseaudio then go to #pulseaudio , they can help , but if not , get rid of it and let alsa manage your audio devices
[17:35] <caedmon> the problem i am running into is the installer looking for disk drivers
[17:35] <caedmon> old documentation said megaraid would work
[17:35] <caedmon> but it didnt
[17:35] <TheEvilPhoenix> caedmon, hardware RAID?
[17:35] <caedmon> yeah
[17:35] <jonne> BluesKaj, i need PA for the network transparency
[17:36] <jonne> i'm generally happy about PA, as opposed to the rest of the internet
[17:36] <jonne> except when it's not working properly, ofcourse
[17:36] <schnuffle> caedmon: they changed there raids from something called PERC X to H200/300
[17:36] <TheEvilPhoenix> caedmon, sounds like the same issue on my server... it seems the hardware raid card's drivers arent shipped ootb, but i never got a chance to test.  ya might ask in #ubuntu-server, they may be more helpful (if they're alive)
[17:36] <Ampelbein> brahim: that's not a question. "I want to create a database" is a statement of intent, "I tried mysql but it gona grazy when a lot of data" is a statement lacking things like "I used mysql commands foo, bar and gnarz but the response was EFOOBAR, when I wanted to do XYZ".
[17:37] <caedmon> ok thanks. i will try the ubuntu-server channel
[17:37] <brahim> Ampelbein i want to use cassandra can u help me?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> network transparency? describe to us what that means , jonne , otherwise you might bet ore help over at the #pulseaudio chat , like I previously suggested\
[17:37] <Electron> I installed 11.04 on my computer, when 11.10 comes out does ubuntu upgrade easily?
[17:37] <wsagent> Ampelbein : LoL
[17:37] <BluesKaj> get more help
[17:37] <jonne> sending audio from one computer to another
[17:38] <tobi__> help pl
[17:38] <jonne> and padevchooser works (the tool pulseaudio wrote to do this), but the ubuntu sound menu (which is ubuntu-specific) suddenly stopped showing remote sinks
[17:38] <Ampelbein> brahim: what error do you get? what commands did you use? what did you expect these commands do?
[17:38] <wsagent> brahim be polite man
[17:39] <jonne> and the kneejerk OMG uninstall PA it sucks11!! reaction isn't the best way to handle every audio issue
[17:39] <BluesKaj> jonne, ask i #pulseaudio
[17:39] <brahim> could u see this link please http://cassandra.apache.org/download/
[17:40] <jonne> they'll tell me to ask #ubuntu, as the issue i have is with ubuntu-specific modifications
[17:41] <wsagent> brahim: where are you facing issue
[17:41] <brahim> i don't know how to install it and the doc is not clear
[17:41] <wsagent> which ubuntu version are you using?
[17:42] <Symmetria> *hrm* what sorta disk write performance hit can I expect running software raid-1 with mdadm
[17:42] <brahim> i don't know what is the cmd to get the version plz?
[17:42] <brahim> i think 9.04
[17:43] <czardoz> wow thats old
[17:43] <oCean> brahim: your question has nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:43] <pattern> how can i list all the files installed by a given package?
[17:43] <qin> brahim: lsb_release -a
[17:43] <brahim> the v is 10.04
[17:43] <VCoolio> pattern: dpkg-query -L  I think
[17:43] <brahim> oCean i know but im an ubuntu user so come here to find some help :)
[17:44] <llutz> pattern: dpkg -L package
[17:44] <pattern> thank you
[17:44] <oCean> brahim: sorry, wrong channel. This channel is for ubuntu support only
[17:45] <brahim> oCean ok thanks i go now  :(
[17:46] <Electron> Is an ubuntu upgrade easy?
[17:47] <czardoz> pretty much
[17:47] <Shaba1> hello can anyone see my text?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> Shaba1, yes
[17:47] <czardoz> Shaba1: I can
[17:47] <Shaba1> Ok thanks
[17:47] <trinimoses> qustion : why does my screen go blank in ubuntu 10.04 lts when i swithc monitors?
[17:47] <Magic_Hobo> yup
[17:48] <Shaba1> I am in another room and no one was answering so I thought maybe something was wrong
[17:48] <BluesKaj> can't you see your own text Shaba1?
[17:48] <Shaba1> while I am here though....
[17:48]  * Electron wonders if anyone has ever upgraded.
[17:48] <Shaba1>  I have kubuntu on a usb stick. it boots but does not show my wireless chip
[17:48] <jrib> !upgrade | Electron
[17:48] <Shaba1> I have the drivers on this laptop
[17:48] <Shaba1> how do I "transfer' it to the usb stick
[17:48] <Electron> jrib, I am not wanting to  upgrade.  I am just now switching from windows to ubuntu and I wondered in a few months if it was easy.
[17:49] <Shaba1> the laptop is windows7
[17:49] <oneliner> anyone had the idea of using pen tablet input to have a "sign on" app to login with a hand written signature?
[17:49] <Roasted> Who's good with printing?  I have a Ricoh 2500 here I CANNOT get to work, even if I provide my own PPD file. I'm a little lost on where else to go as it's very frustrating...
[17:49] <oCean> oneliner: how is that an ubuntu issue?
[17:49] <jrib> Electron: that page has instructions so you can see what it's like.  It's basically, just update manager popping up, you press a button, then wait...
[17:49] <Electron> jrib, ah ok thank you
[17:49] <oneliner> oCean: app query, not issue
[17:50] <jo-erlend> can someone provide me with a link to something describing how to setup grub2 to boot from a RAW image?
[17:50] <Electron> jrib, And waiting is the most difficult part I am guessing. heh.
[17:50] <oCean> oneliner: "anyone had the idea of.." that's not an app query to me
[17:50] <oneliner> is there an app that <- refrase at will
[17:50] <vooze> Sitting with a friend and its his first time with ubuntu, but the problem is that he can SEE the wireless but cant connect to any.. any ideas to such issues?
[17:51] <jrib> Electron: probably a few hours to download and install, but you can still use the system while it upgrades
[17:51] <Galaxor> How do I put apps on the unity dock bar if they aren't in the menu and don't have .desktop files?
[17:52] <Galaxor> I can make a .desktop file for it, but I still don't know how to put it onto the bar.
[17:52] <pdtpatrick> Galaxor, just drag them there. .desktop would be how u customize them
[17:52] <soziety> notification bubble does not appear when VPN connection is established in xubuntu 10.04
[17:52] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: Drag it from nautilus?
[17:52] <Electron> jrib, ah thats sweet.
[17:53] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: Dragging the binary from nautilus didn't work.  Dragging it from the "run application" dialog didn't work.
[17:54] <pdtpatrick> Galaxor, when u press the windows button on your keyboard, search for the app you want, when it finds it, just drag the icon onto the unity doc and it will stick.
[17:54] <Makdaam> hi, does anyone have a "satellite tv in ubuntu" tutorial or could help me with basic tuning and stuff?
[17:54] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: This is an app I compiled by hand.  It's not in the freedesktop menu.
[17:55] <ozzloy> what's the default cd ripper on 11.04, or is there one?
[17:56] <ozzloy> i thought it would be sound-juicer, but that's not available
[17:56] <ozzloy> er... not installed by default
[17:56] <pdtpatrick> Galaxor, right .. but when u search for the app does it come up or does the system not see it? u can clone .desktop file and make the appropriate changes. But if you compiled it then just open the location of the file/binary and then drag it to the dock. You can always do it by hand like you wanted to
[17:56] <dr_willis> make a .desktop file for it.. they are not to hard to do
[17:57] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: The binary is /opt/tora/bin/tora.  The search thing doesn't find it, even if I type the full path.
[17:58] <n-iCe> was not loaded, I did modprobe r8187 and was not loaded either, I mean wlan1 was not there, must be something different
[17:58] <pdtpatrick> Galaxor, .. so then browse through your nautilus window.. and try to drag it there. DOes that work?
[17:58] <n-iCe> how can I turn on a wireless interface when is not listed in iwconfig
[17:59] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: Nope.  But if I make a .desktop file, I can drag that in.
[18:00] <rakkkta> hello, it's the "getting broadcom wireless to connect to networks" problem for me, anyone?
[18:00] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: so I guess that's the answer:  Make a .desktop file.
[18:00] <pdtpatrick> Galaxor, hmmm -- maybe thats the best work around for now. Create a launcher on the desktop and then try dragging it to the dock. Have you tried that ?
[18:01] <idodeisuke> !list
[18:01] <Guest38993> my monitor intensity of light is low and i can't set it high. why?
[18:01] <coz_> Guest38993,  not sure,, did you try xgamma?
[18:02] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: Yep.  That works.  That's essentially a gui way to make a .desktop file.
[18:02] <coz_> Guest38993,   open a terminal ,,    xgamma --gamma  1.0 is  normal   brighter would be  1.7  for example
[18:02] <Gunni> hey i just installed ubuntu server on a machine i have, now i did install it completely and installation finished but then next time it started i just see garbage, any ideas?
[18:02] <pdtpatrick> Galaxor, right. Looks like thats the best way for now :(
[18:02] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: Yep.  One day...
[18:03] <coz_> Guest38993,   sorry that command is   xgamma  -gamma
[18:03] <wrd> !skype
[18:03] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: I liked in the regular gnome that you could do the "run application" dialog, type the full path, and then drag it onto the launch bar and it'd create a launcher.
[18:04] <Gunni> hey i just installed ubuntu server on a machine i have, now i did install it completely and installation finished but then next time it started i just see garbage, any ideas? (i did manage to find the ip it got and connect to the ssh server, any ideas?)
[18:04] <pdtpatrick> Galaxor, yes im still figuring my way out as well but it looks promising so far. So im just going to wait and see what 11.10 brings to the table.
[18:04] <Shaba1> Ok no ideas at all? anyone
[18:05] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: I should file bugs when I see stuff like this.  Feature request bugs.  Then we can make sure 11.10's got the good stuff.
[18:05] <andy_wfc> silly question: what voodoo do I need to do to run the boot up manager on 11.04? gksudo bum doesn't give any errors nor open any windows
[18:05] <soziety> notification bubble does not appear when VPN connection is established in xubuntu 10.04
[18:05] <quaisi> hi shabal: I'd advise patience in this scenario
[18:05] <rakkkta> hello, I've been at it for a few hours trying to establish network connection on a broadcom wireless (I have no ethernet possibilities), is there any educated opinion on this? :)
[18:05] <soziety> notification bubble does not appear when VPN connection is established in xubuntu 10.04, where I found this code plz?
[18:07] <SubNormal> how can I remote control my ubuntu server and GUI at my workplace from home?
[18:08] <Stramash> nomachine
[18:08] <Gunni> SubNormal use ssh
[18:08] <Gunni> or ssh + x forwarding
[18:08] <Gunni> hey i just installed ubuntu server on a machine i have, now i did install it completely and installation finished but then next time it started i just see garbage, any ideas? (i did manage to find the ip it got and connect to the ssh server, any ideas?)
[18:09] <SubNormal> Gunni you Icelandic?
[18:09] <Gunni> yes
[18:09] <quaisi> gunni / shabal: again I'd advise patience
[18:09] <Gunni> how'd ya know?
[18:09] <SubNormal> nújæja má ég PMa þig?
[18:09] <Gunni> sure
[18:10] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: Oh man!  So I got the launcher into the bar, but the application search still doesn't turn it up!
[18:10] <SubNormal> ugh how can I PM in webchat?
[18:11] <Stramash> /query nick
[18:11] <szal> lol
[18:11] <Shaba1> Stramash: You wer quicker of the keys then me
[18:12] <Stramash> :)
[18:15] <wsagent> root
[18:16] <Shaba1> shaba1
[18:16] <wsagent> how can i change my root password  ?
[18:17] <Pici> !root | wsagent
[18:18] <Gunni> sudo passwd
[18:18] <wsagent> ubuttu: Thanks for the info
[18:18] <Gunni> :P
[18:18] <Stockholm_Angel> wsagent:  its a bot
[18:19] <Pici> !noroot | Gunni wsagent
[18:20] <Gunni> Pici i don't care, i just answered his question directly, i forbid direct root login and require ssh keys :P
[18:21] <Pici> Gunni: We'd appreciate if you'd at least provide a disclaimer if you do suggest how to change the password.
[18:21] <Gunni> hehe
[18:21] <AlReece45> Seem to be having trouble booting a fresh 10.04.2 server with an LVM root. The logical volumes appear to be just inactive whenever starting.
[18:27] <quaisi> can someone explain / point me to how to use the bots - this ! malarkey looks interesting
[18:28] <llutz> !bot | quaisi
[18:28] <quaisi> cheers llutz!
[18:29] <DDAZZA> I've just installed ubuntu 11.4 64bit and when it boots it goes into busybox (which I can exit) and then it runs like normal.  Any idea how I can resolve this?
[18:30] <quaisi> DDAZZA: System - Preferences - Startup Applications?
[18:30] <hetii> status_of_proc -p /var/run/somepidfile test233 aaaa -> this return always that process is running if the pid exists. I suppose its a bug :>
[18:31] <sarahh> registration in www.gsick.com is now open!
[18:31] <escott> DDAZZA, does it indicate why it drops you into busybox?
[18:31] <DDAZZA> not that I'm aware of.
[18:32] <v_v_vishnevskiy> http://goo.gl/gQeE0
[18:33] <Electron> What type of anti-virus program does ubuntu users run the most?
[18:33] <maco> Electron: none
[18:33] <escott> DDAZZA, make sure all your filesystems pass fsck, it could also be a delay in the enumeration of your devices, you might try playing around with rootdelay
[18:33] <escott> !antivirus
[18:33] <Electron> Was reading articles about the dangers of linux viruses.
[18:34] <Electron> It seems they do exist.
[18:34] <DDAZZA> escott, thank you I will look into that.
[18:34] <maco> Electron: there have been a few, yes. it's been a couple years since the last one though
[18:34] <escott> Electron, there are some, but there just arent enough linux systems out there to be worth a lot of av stuff. more likely is a direct attack on services
[18:34] <Electron> ok
[18:35] <maco> Electron: more common would be trojans, where the user installs something they shouldn't have. you can protect yourself against that by using the Ubuntu Software Center or apt-get for all your software needs, instead of grabbing random stuff from the internet
[18:35] <escott> Electron, set up a good firewall, enable only those services you need, etc...
[18:35] <Electron> What about malware, spyware and things like that?
[18:36] <escott> Electron, ie trojans, see maco's comments
[18:37] <maco> Electron: malware is a umbrella term including viruses & trojans and such, so...  as far as spyware, that usually comes through trojans or could be tracking cookie stuff on websites, in which case delete cookies or use a Firefox extension that lets you selectively reject cookies
[18:37] <hetii> rootkits ... :)
[18:37] <Electron> ok
[18:37] <bobweaver> could some one explain how rkhunter works ?
[18:38] <semitones> I'm having some trouble with remote desktop
[18:39] <semitones> seems I can move the mouse around on the remote compter, but can't interact with anything
[18:39] <semitones> settings allow for read/write access
[18:39] <semitones> what could be wrong
[18:41] <arrrcanum42> semitones, have you tried reconecting it?
[18:41] <quaisi> semitones: Perhaps you could have a try with another client.  I've found remmina to be very reliable
[18:42] <semitones> I haven't tried reconnecting, but it has happened a few times. I'll try remmina (although mac's vnc client couldn't interact with this laptop either)
[18:48] <Python> Hi is 10.04 or 11.04 better ?
[18:48] <Fodi69> hi guys, which program is your favourite tool for a website design creation? Inkscape? Gimp? Libreoffice Draw??
[18:48] <semitones> what is the most elegant way to make smdb start automatically?
[18:49] <semitones> (for the purpose of having windows sharing)
[18:49] <Shaba1> <---- Kompozer
[18:49] <quaisi> semitones: good luck
[18:50] <Jaden> I'm having trouble with the wubi installation, is this the right place? I've already looked at the forums and faqs and no help.
[18:50] <Fodi69> Python: if your question is for unity, than: you can use 11.04 without unity, with the normal gnome layout (same as in 10.10)
[18:51] <cmnajs> hi. I want to run google-chrome --app command using cron.. it doesn't work, any help?
[18:51] <Fodi69> Python: I think 11.04 is better in every aspect
[18:51] <Python> Fodi69: no it isn't
[18:51] <Pici> !best
[18:52] <buddha_> Jaden: what's the problem?
[18:53] <xiaoy> How to install gst-plugins-base development packages in ubuntu?
[18:54] <buddha_> xiaoy: 'sudo apt-get install gst-plugins-base-dev' maybe?
[18:54] <cmnajs> hi. I want to run google-chrome --app command using cron.. it doesn't work, any help?
[18:55] <xiaoy> buddha_, ehmm... no, no pkg called like that
[18:55] <buddha_> just a guess
[18:55] <xiaoy> :)
[18:56] <Mendishon> hi
[18:56] <buddha_> xiaoy: are there any dev pkgs for gst?
[18:56] <xiaoy> buddha_, just looking for
[18:56] <tsimpson> xiaoy: you probably want libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev
[18:57] <EgyParadox> xiaoy:I think maybe because its universe
[18:57] <especially-corn> i have this weird xorg (?) but, if i move the mouse really fast in the lower-right corner the whole system freezez and the cpu usage goes up from 4% to about 50%
[18:58] <buddha_> then don't do it
[18:58] <especially-corn> bug*
[18:58] <Mendishon> I have a XChat and auth in a QuakeNet so i don`t know how can i log in automatic
[18:59] <Snake__> Hi guys
[18:59] <xiaoy> tsimpson, yep, that did the trick ;-D
[18:59] <Snake__> is there a difference between gnome and ubuntu
[18:59] <xiaoy> tkz to all
[18:59] <especially-corn> Snake__, gnome is a desktop environment with a window manager included, ubuntu is a linux distribution
[19:00] <EgyParadox> !GNOME > Snake__
[19:00] <Snake__> ok so gnome is part of ubuntu
[19:00] <especially-corn> Snake__, it doesn't have to be
[19:00] <buddha_> not anymore
[19:00] <especially-corn> Snake__, i have ubuntu but choose to use openbox instead of gnome
[19:00] <especially-corn> Snake__, there was never a gnome in my ubuntu install
[19:00] <ISeeYou> hello everyone
[19:01] <Snake__> ok I got it THANKS GUYS
[19:01] <Snake__> :)
[19:01] <Fodi69> Snake__: normally yes, its a part of the default install
[19:01] <especially-corn> Snake__, just search for alternate window managers / desktop environments if you're interested :)
[19:01] <Snake__> ok thanks dude
[19:02] <anthony96> Can you install gnome-global-menu in ubuntu 11.04 or add window title to indicator-appmenu?
[19:02] <especially-corn> sure no problem
[19:02] <bool> Hi, is there a pdf browser-plugin other than adobe reader?
[19:03] <n-iCe> hi, is there a network-manager channel?
[19:04] <ISeeYou> i have a problem with my netbook when i'm trying to boot from the usb to intalll ubuntu
[19:04] <especially-corn> n-iCe, i don't think so, whats your problem?
[19:04] <n-iCe> Well, network-manager says I am using a driver, but I am sure I am not using that driver, so I don't get it, indeed it is blacklisted already
[19:04] <buddha_> ISeeYou: what happens?
[19:04] <n-iCe> especially-corn: I am using r8187 and says rtl8187 don't know why
[19:05] <especially-corn> it doesn't really affect your system's performance does it?
[19:05] <Zombie> I have my situation under control.
[19:05] <Python> what is faster 11.04 or 10.04
[19:05] <aeon-ltd> Python: depends
[19:05] <aeon-ltd> Python: but if you want speed tweak it until you like it
[19:05] <ISeeYou> buddha: i see something about syslinux, (like version etc.) for a while and then i'm getting a black page with a cursor
[19:06] <Python> aeon-ltd: ?
[19:06] <ISeeYou> buddha: and nothing else, i cant do anything there
[19:06] <buddha_> ISeeYou: have you tried burning the image again. might just be a bad image
[19:07] <Python> do 11.04 have more features than 10.04 ?
[19:07] <aeon-ltd> Python: some people find unity (new interface) faster and more usable whilst others like classic gnome; but personally if you want 'speed' (i.e max performance, least loading times etc)
[19:07] <aeon-ltd> Python: yes 11.04 does have some more features
[19:07] <Pici> Python: Haven't we been over this already?
[19:07] <ISeeYou> buddha_: yes i've tried also another dist, but i've checked on another pc and it works fine
[19:08] <buddha_> ok
[19:08] <corrytonapple> Python:  yes 11.04 has more features
[19:08] <buddha_> ISeeYou: you have the right architecture I assume?
[19:08] <ISeeYou> buddha_: yes i386
[19:08] <Python> aeon-ltd: yeah  i want 'speed' (i.e max performance, least loading times etc)
[19:09] <corrytonapple> The loading times are the same on both Python
[19:09] <ISeeYou> buddha_: i''l find the link for you with the guy with the same problem
[19:09] <Electron> why would you want to go with 10.04?
[19:10] <[S^K]> hi when I try to install java sdk with "sudo apt-get sun-java6-jdk" it says it has no "installation candidate", what is going wrong?
[19:10] <Oli> Do the repositories of old unsupported releases get shut down when support expires?
[19:10] <mabrowning> [S^K]: you need the patner repository
[19:10] <mabrowning> partner*
[19:10] <willwh> hi folks - anyone outside of the US using google voice for calls? (If so.... how?)
[19:10] <[S^K]> mabrowning: What is the name of it? Thanks
[19:10] <buddha_> ISeeYou: does it just sit on black screen forever?
[19:11] <ISeeYou> buddha_: yes
[19:11] <corrytonapple> Electron:  because it is an LTS
[19:11] <mabrowning> [S^K]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding_Canonical_Partner_Repositories
[19:12] <[S^K]> mabrowning: thank you
[19:12] <Electron> corrytonapple, ok
[19:12] <aeon-ltd> Python: then what are your specifications of your pc?
[19:12] <corrytonapple> You will get updates for a long time..... with the LTS
[19:12] <semitones-tea> what's the 11.04 way of starting gdm from commandline?
[19:13] <buddha_> ISeeYou: it may not be an option but have you tried a CD?
[19:13] <semitones-tea> i booted from livecd but I'm dumped in a terminal
[19:13] <ISeeYou> buddha_: i have no any external cd drive for netbook
[19:13] <Electron> corrytonapple, I see.
[19:13] <GOGNOME> http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/04/24/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-10-10-10-04/ is this the right way to install gnome 3
[19:14] <Python> aeon-ltd: i5-450m, GMA HD, 320 GB, 2gb ram
[19:14] <anthony96> can you install gnome-global-menu in gnome ubuntu 11.04?
[19:14] <aeon-ltd> Python: heh no need really, gnome classic will be fine
[19:14] <corrytonapple> Python, you would be fine on either with that hardware
[19:14] <aeon-ltd> Python: until you reach a level of 'strain' you won't need to change
[19:14] <corrytonapple> With 11.04 you can get to Unity or GNOME classic, with 10.04 you can only get to GNOME Classic
[19:16] <especially-corn> i have a xorg problem
[19:16] <ISeeYou> buddha_: heres the 2 comments http://paste.ubuntu.com/638544/
[19:16] <aeon-ltd> especially-corn: describe it to the channek
[19:16] <aeon-ltd> *channel
[19:16] <especially-corn> the cpu usage goes up from 4 to 50% every time the cursor gets there http://i.imm.io/78ZQ.png
[19:17] <ISeeYou> buddha_: and my netbook is also acer (aspire one)
[19:17] <Electron> heh I don't even know if I am using gnome or unity...
[19:17] <especially-corn> and if i monitor the activity in top, its xorg that causes that, it jumps up to 100% processor use
[19:17] <buddha_> ISeeYou: ok so might be the same BIOS problem