[16:54] <riobe> I'm in installer right now (on the computer I want to install in), but if I made each of those directories a partition, then I have to give them a max size
[16:54] <riobe> And I didn't want to have to pick sizes. I wanted all 3 folders to be able to grow until the disk was out of room
[16:55] <EriC^^> riobe: then make each partition span the whole disk
[16:55] <riobe> I can do that? O.o I'll try that now
[16:55] <TJ-> Sounds like a job for LVM
[16:56] <riobe> Once I make a primary partition for /home, I cannot make another one for either of the other folders if it takes the whole drive.
[16:56] <reisio> riobe: something else you can do is make your two separate disks appear as one
[16:56] <EriC^^> riobe: aren't you making /home /usr/local and /opt on 3 separate disks?
[16:57] <riobe> No, on the same. I have 1 disk I want to put the kernel on, and 1 disk I want to put those 3 directories on
[16:57] <EriC^^> oh, ok
[16:57] <riobe> So I mounted / on my smaller disk, and I want to put /home /usr/locl and /opt on the other
[16:58] <riobe> I'm reading about LVM right now to see if I can understand enough to figure out how to do that from the installer if that would solve what I'm trying to do
[16:59] <riobe> It's a laptop with a 128gb ssd, and I put in a 512ssd. So I want ubuntu on the little one, and all my data stuff on the other drive.
[16:59] <reisio> riobe: why'd you want them on a different drive, again?
[16:59] <reisio> ah
[16:59] <reisio> well all your data should be in /home/
[16:59] <riobe> I figure I'll likely install quite a lot of software too though, which will likely go into /opt, right?
[17:00] <EriC^^> riobe: from the repositories, no
[17:00] <riobe> I wanted to be able to put that on the larger drive as well
[17:00] <EriC^^> riobe: most of the software will be in /usr
[17:00] <riobe> Things like IntelliJ IDEA, Unreal Engine 4, steam games, etc
[17:00] <EriC^^> /usr/local is for stuff you compiled and not from the repositories
[17:01] <EriC^^> oh
[17:01] <reisio> you want software to be fast, though
[17:01] <riobe> I'm a coder (used to Windows, wanting to move to Linux) so I figure I'll be compiling a lot from source and making my own stuff, which is why I figured I'd put /usr/local off with /opt and /home on the larger drive.
[17:01] <reisio> 128GB is plenty
[17:01] <riobe> They're both ssd's
[17:01] <reisio> I don't think I'd even bother putting /home on the second drive
[17:01] <reisio> I'd just put huge files there at my leisure
[17:02] <reisio> I mean 128GB is going to start you off with something around 115-120 GB free on the drive
[17:02] <reisio> if you put the entire OS and /home/ on it
[17:02] <reisio> and then you'll have the second drive on top
[17:02] <reisio> you might be overthinking this
[17:02] <riobe> If my experience on my home pc with windows is any indication, I'll eat that pretty fast with games, unreal, ide's, etc
[17:03] <reisio> Windows apps take up more space
[17:03] <reisio> because they all install their own redundant deps
[17:03] <reisio> but suit yourself
[17:03] <riobe> If it's not possible, then I can just make my 3 partitions and deal with it. I just wanted to know if it was possible to have those 3 folders be on a different drive together and all have access to all the space.
[17:03] <reisio> yup, lots of ways to do that
[17:04] <riobe> I'm a Linux newbie, so I'm still learning what good practices are.
[17:04] <reisio> well, people might yell at you for various things
[17:04] <reisio> but this will always be true: if it works it works
[17:05] <riobe> lol, true
[17:07] <TechMonger> anyone have any good resources for learning about kickstarter files?
[17:11] <youzuzz> You live your whole life in your head.
[17:11] <TechMonger> lol wtf
[17:12] <Fatar> It's kinda true
[17:13] <reisio> also, you live your whole life in my head
[17:13] <reisio> :p
[17:13] <youzuzz> You never leave your mind
[17:16] <baja> hi i want to format flash
[17:16] <baja> flash disk
[17:16] <reisio> baja: why?
[17:16] <baja> help
[17:16] <TechMonger> lol
[17:17] <baja> its 15 gb free but its telling me it has no space
[17:17] <baja> i guess its a virus
[17:18] <baja> reisio:
[17:18] <phroa`> baja: you sure there's not just a hidden trash folder
[17:18] <baja> how?
[17:19] <phroa`> baja: what file manager do you use
[17:19] <Fatar> maybe it's fragmented or something?
[17:19] <reisio> baja: why do you want to format it?
[17:19] <baja> i dont know..
[17:19] <phroa`> reisio: phantom free space
[17:20] <baja> i dont know..my file manager
[17:20] <reisio> so you don't want to format it
[17:20] <reisio> baja: what makes you think it has 15GB free
[17:20] <baja> so that it can allow me to store movie inside
[17:20] <reisio> baja: what makes you think it has 15GB free?
[17:20] <baja> its my flash i know
[17:20] <baja> duh??
[17:21] <Fatar> Yeah it's fragmented
[17:21] <baja> right click and properties shows its 15 gb
[17:21] <phroa`> Fatar: if he's calculating free space in his mind based on what files he thinks he put in there, I'm still leaning toward .Trashes folder
[17:21] <baja> resio:
[17:21] <baja> right click and properties shows its 15 gb
[17:21] <baja> resio:
[17:21] <phroa`> Fatar: never mind, continue :3
[17:22] <Fatar> phroa`: Ahah i'm totally bad at explanations go ahead, last time I had this issue I cried
[17:22] <reisio> baja: that could be its already-used total capacity
[17:22] <reisio> baja: what does 'df -h' say about it, after you've mounted it?
[17:23] <phroa`> reisio: it's going to be hard for him to answer you
[17:24] <baja> let me go to terminal first and df-h
[17:28] <baja> how do i df-h
[17:28] <baja> my flashdisk
[17:28] <phroa`> baja: you literally write "df -h". you can target a path with "df -h /path/to/where/you/want/to/measure"
[17:30] <baja> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[17:30] <baja> /dev/sdb1        15G   15G  488K 100% /media/baja/LETHALDICK
[17:30] <reisio> heh
[17:30] <phroa`> k
[17:30] <reisio> baja: that says it's full
[17:30] <reisio> 15G total, 15G used
[17:30] <reisio> 100% use
[17:30] <phroa`> baja: you were reading the "free space" and "used space" backwards
[17:30] <baja> but it has nothing lol
[17:30] <stacks88> so ive got this openvz container that runs ubuntu 14.04 and im trying to get it so that it automatically updates the packages , and on https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html it says to install unattended-upgrades which i did, but then it says to enable automatic updates, edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic -- when i ran nano /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic the file was
[17:30] <stacks88> empty.. is this normal? or is it suppose to be empty / and i put in the stuff that the link tells me to
[17:30] <baja> no files inside
[17:31] <reisio> baja: what makes you think it has no files
[17:31] <baja> you see thats why i need to format
[17:31] <phroa`> baja: pastebin the output of `du -h /media/baja/LETHALDICK`?
[17:31] <Fuuzetsu> re: my earlier question, I managed with pinning, thanks
[17:31] <phroa`> (du is a more fine-grained df)
[17:31] <baja> ok
[17:31] <reisio> find /media/baja/LETHALDICK -type f -exec du -hs {} \;
[17:32] <phroa`> reisio: pretty sure du is recursive by default
[17:32] <phroa`> or am I misreading what that does? :P
[17:32] <reisio> phroa`: that won't help him find files he thinks aren't there
[17:32] <reisio> we already know it's full
[17:32] <reisio> du of the dir will only say it again
[17:32] <phroa`> du shows sizes of all the files.
[17:32] <baja> i have pastebin
[17:33] <reisio> phroa`: nope
[17:33] <baja> http://pastebin.com/CYagcRsw
[17:33] <reisio> baja: we already saw that
[17:33] <baja> but its gat nothing inside
[17:33] <stacks88> also everything in my /etc/cron.daily is listed as disabled.. i.e apt.disabled , why is this
[17:33] <phroa`> reisio: does for me (on mac, albeit). am I being stupid again?
[17:33] <baja> is that a virus
[17:33] <reisio> baja: find /media/baja/LETHALDICK -type f -exec du -hs {} \;
[17:34] <reisio> phroa`: dunno, who knows what a Mac does
[17:34] <reisio> baja: very few people have seen a virus in years and years
[17:34] <reisio> what you're thinking of is "malware"
[17:34] <reisio> and you have no reason to suspect that, either, yet
[17:34] <stacks88> https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide/+bug/1031091 does this mean ubuntu is going to shit?
[17:35] <baja> the terminal is going matrix
[17:35] <baja> on me
[17:35] <reisio> stacks88: maybe if it's a real bug and is never closed
[17:35] <reisio> stacks88: if it's closed probably means the opposite
[17:35] <reisio> baja: then it found a lot of files
[17:35] <baja> reisio:
[17:35] <reisio> baja: files taking up space
[17:36] <baja> but i have deleted all files on flash disk
[17:36] <reisio> baja: no, you have not
[17:36] <baja> reisio
[17:36] <baja> how do i convince yu reisio
[17:36] <reisio> baja: pastebinit the output of the command I gave you
[17:36] <reisio> you can't convince me, I trust df
[17:37] <reisio> I can, however, convince you
[17:37] <baja> its tooo long
[17:37] <baja> many files
[17:37] <stacks88> but that link is suggesting the documentation is out of date.. which brings me back to my original question, the documentation tells me to edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic , which that file doesnt even exist.. And on that launchpad link ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide/+bug/1031091 ) they seem to be talking about how the documentation is out of date
[17:37] <reisio> baja: just the last few lines, then
[17:38] <stacks88> so if the documentation is out of date and its 3 years later, that is kind of disconcerting
[17:38] <zxz_> hello i am using lubuntu and i have big problem with skype and pulseaudio. i don't have any sound from skype and i cant install pulseaudio, because it says there are broken packages
[17:39] <reisio> stacks88: IME all distros suffer from out of date documentation
[17:39] <mgs4> hi have a question, im using ubuntu 14.04 and when im on a webpage and have my voip headset in, if i press the mute button on the headset it makes the webpages go back a page no matter what browser i use any help would be great
[17:39] <reisio> mgs4: neat
[17:39] <stacks88> okay .. well do you happen to know the answer to this? Im trying to get unattended upgrades going on my ubuntu 14.04..after installing unattended-upgrades , do i need to enable the unattended upgrades, , if so how? the documentation says edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic , which that file doesnt even exist..so im trying to figure out is that normal, or do i not need to enable anything and
[17:39] <stacks88> its already enabled simply by installing unattended-upgrades
[17:39] <baja> http://pastebin.com/X89kYpWn
[17:40] <baja> reisio
[17:40] <baja> http://pastebin.com/X89kYpWn
[17:40] <stacks88> or do i need to create that file
[17:40] <michaelaguiar> How can I make it so that when a user creates a new directory, that all users in that group can write to it?
[17:40] <stacks88> or is it a different file now
[17:40] <tgm4883> mgs4: I had a similiar issue with my plantronics headset.
[17:40] <reisio> baja: okay, you deleted your files, but not really, they went to the disk's trash bin
[17:40] <reisio> baja: so they're all still there
[17:40] <mgs4> anyway around it
[17:40] <baja> thats not normal
[17:40] <reisio> baja: it can be, it depends
[17:40] <baja> so how do i clean
[17:41] <reisio> baja: rm -fr /media/baja/LETHALDICK/.Trash*; df -h
[17:41] <mgs4> i have tried a few other headsets and its the same
[17:41] <tgm4883> mgs4: I had to configure the plantroics headset in xorg.conf to not be an input device (input devince in this instance would be like a keyboard/mouse)
[17:41] <stacks88> nevermind figured it out, guess i needed to install update-notifier-common
[17:41] <mgs4> makes sense
[17:41] <baja> then?
[17:41] <stacks88> which would have been nice if the doc said that, but wahtever guess its all free so i shouldnt complain
[17:41] <baja> reisio
[17:42] <reisio> baja: then df -h will probably tell you that Use% is 0
[17:42] <reisio> instead of 100%
[17:42] <baja> its showing file system
[17:42] <baja> how do i clean
[17:42] <reisio> baja: clean what?
[17:42] <zxz_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11926214/
[17:42] <tonyyarusso> mode -b<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:42] <baja> delete the files i need space
[17:43] <reisio> baja: rm -fr /media/baja/LETHALDICK/.Trash*; df -h | grep -i lethal
[17:43] <GitGud> i'm back
[17:43] <reisio> wb
[17:43] <GitGud> :)
[17:43] <mgs4> @tgh4883 any tips on how to do it is there any write ups
[17:43] <GitGud> ban filter hit my library IP
[17:43] <baja> is that all
[17:43] <baja> reisio
[17:44] <GitGud> cause someone was trolling from this library at one point
[17:44] <mgs4> can anyone upload it to a paste bin on how to do it
[17:44] <michaelaguiar> anyone have an idea?
[17:44] <reisio> baja: if it says it's using 0%, that's all
[17:44] <mgs4> tgm4883:
[17:44] <baja> cool bro
[17:45] <baja> thanks alot reisio
[17:45] <reisio> I wonder if they were actually rejoining, warranting more than a nick ban
[17:45] <reisio> baja: np
[17:45] <baja> :)
[17:46] <HIP_TANAKA> hey, all - would anybody happen to know how to resolve "could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives" when using synaptic package manager?
[17:46] <HIP_TANAKA> assuming this is a help channel :/
[17:46] <reisio> HIP_TANAKA: isn't that the error you get if you're trying to use more than one package manager simultaneously?
[17:46] <tgm4883> mgs4: This is what I did to fix mine http://www.rodneybeede.com/Plantronics_Savi_7xx-M_and_Linux_mouse_or_lockup_problems.html
[17:47] <Serghio> hi
[17:47] <HIP_TANAKA> reisio: i assumed it was, but i am not running apt in any other instances
[17:47] <HIP_TANAKA> i just booted up
[17:47] <HIP_TANAKA> also i am running LXLE in a virtual machine if that helps
[17:47] <ioria> HIP_TANAKA, update is running, maybe
[17:47] <reisio> HIP_TANAKA: yeah might be automatic update manager
[17:47] <HIP_TANAKA> ioria: that is what i assumed.. checking ps now
[17:47] <reisio> lsof /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:47] <Serghio> help me ?
[17:47] <michaelaguiar> I am trying to set the permissions for all new files and folders to be writeable by the group, how can I do this?
[17:47] <Serghio> I can not install a znc in my vps because it says that I need copilador c ++ and g ++
[17:48] <phroa`> Serghio: znc lists the packages you need to install last I checked
[17:48] <reisio> Serghio: znc is in universe: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=znc
[17:48] <bilb_ono> how can I get into the grub menu? holding Shift and escape don’t seem to be working…
[17:48] <Serghio> checking whether the C++ compiler works... no
[17:48] <Serghio> configure: error: in `/home/Zurdo/znc-1.6.0':
[17:48] <Serghio> configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[17:48] <Serghio> :S
[17:48] <reisio> michaelaguiar: chown
[17:48] <reisio> Serghio: znc is in universe: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=znc
[17:49] <Serghio> install that?
[17:49] <michaelaguiar> reisio: so all new files created by a user are owned by that user, and a specific group
[17:49] <michaelaguiar> all other users are in that group
[17:49] <mcphail> bilb_ono: tried the right-shift key?
[17:49] <michaelaguiar> but when that user creates a directory, no one else can write to that directory, even though its the same group
[17:49] <bilb_ono> nope only the left, ill try that
[17:49] <sirEgghead> I just installed Ubuntu 15.04 fresh yesterday.  I have 2x Radeon HD 6870s and 3 monitors.  2 are connected via DVI and 1 via HDMI.  When my mouse is on one of the two monitors connected via DVI, it flickers very badly.  It operates fine on the HDMI monitor.  I have found online where it says to remove the unknown display, but I do not have any displays other than the 3 real monitors.
[17:50] <michaelaguiar> reisio: I don’t want to change permissions every time a user creates a new file or folder
[17:50] <HIP_TANAKA> maybe something about the refresh rate
[17:50] <sirEgghead> It's only the mouse cursor that flickers.
[17:50] <mgs4> cheers mate
[17:50] <HIP_TANAKA> that is a weird one, sireebob
[17:50] <bilb_ono> rats. still not booting the grub menu
[17:50] <HIP_TANAKA> sirEgghead*
[17:51] <HIP_TANAKA> i managed to install lubuntu 15 alongside of windows 8
[17:51] <HIP_TANAKA> and they both boot fine..
[17:51] <sirEgghead> HIP_TANAKA: yeah it looks horrible when I'm using my RDP client.  The background is blocky rather than transparent.
[17:51] <HIP_TANAKA> pain in the butt though
[17:52] <Serghio> I Have Ubuntu 12
[17:52] <Serghio> need coopiler c++
[17:52] <Serghio> -.-
[17:52] <HIP_TANAKA> heh
[17:52] <HIP_TANAKA> you need a c++ compiler?
[17:52] <julian-delphiki> Serghio: I would `apt-get install build-essential`
[17:52] <mcphail> Serghio: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:52] <reisio> Serghio: install it
[17:52] <Serghio> ok go
[17:52] <HIP_TANAKA> same
[17:52] <ioria> !info znc
[17:52] <reisio> Serghio: you don't need to compile it, just install it
[17:53] <Serghio> ok and install for g++
[17:53] <Serghio> ?
[17:53] <ioria> !info znc precise
[17:53] <julian-delphiki> Serghio: that installs everything you need
[17:53] <HIP_TANAKA> make will compile it for you, champ
[17:53] <Serghio> ok
[17:53] <reisio> he doesn't
[17:53] <bilb_ono> is there a way to get into the terminal from the window that boots when you press F12?
[17:53] <reisio> need
[17:53] <reisio> to compile
[17:53] <bilb_ono> or the one time boot menu
[17:53] <HIP_TANAKA> you guys were right about the updater - it was running but stopped
[17:53] <julian-delphiki> reisio: please use one line for your responses. :)
[17:54] <reisio> HIP_TANAKA: cool
[17:54] <HIP_TANAKA> also: this is the first time in about twenty years that i have come on a help channel and actually received help
[17:54] <reisio> julian-delphiki: one line clearly was not sufficing
[17:54] <HIP_TANAKA> so, thanks for that ! :)
[17:54] <HIP_TANAKA> have a good day!
[17:54] <bilb_ono> I see you edit the grub config file if shift is not working to load the grub menu, but idk how to get to a terminal in order to edit it
[17:54] <ka1n> Hi. I have some trouble with segates 8TB smr hdd "ST8000AS0002". Getting ata errors frozen on ext4 fs. Im runing vivid kernel 3.19.0-16. Would it help adding kernel 4.1.3 or how do i get around this ?
[17:54] <reisio> bilb_ono: CTRL+ALT+t
[17:55] <bilb_ono> reisio: as its booting?
[17:55] <reisio> bilb_ono: nope
[17:55] <reisio> bilb_ono: you can't get the grub screen to load?
[17:55] <bilb_ono> no
[17:56] <Serghio> update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/g++ to provide /usr/bin/c++ (c++) in auto mode.
[17:56] <Serghio> Setting up build-essential (11.5ubuntu2.1) ...
[17:56] <Serghio> Is all?
[17:56] <reisio> bilb_ono: does the OS boot?
[17:56] <bilb_ono> neither shift key nor escape seems to work
[17:56] <reisio> Serghio: you don't need build-essential
[17:56] <reisio> Serghio: pay attention
[17:56] <Serghio> ok
[17:56] <bilb_ono> reisio: it gets frozen on the purple ubuntu screen with 5 orange circles under it, like its just loading forever
[17:56] <reisio> Serghio: znc is an ordinary package in the 'universe' repo, you can install it without compiling it, like any other package
[17:56] <reisio> bilb_ono: CTRL+ALT+F2?
[17:57] <bilb_ono> its this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/477247/ubuntu-12-04-stuck-at-boot-splash-screen but I can’t try the solution because I can’t get into the grub menu
[17:57] <bilb_ono> idk Ill try ctrl alt f2
[17:58] <sirEgghead> I just installed Ubuntu 15.04 fresh yesterday.  I have 2x Radeon HD 6870s and 3 monitors.  2 are connected via DVI and 1 via HDMI.  When my mouse is on one of the two monitors connected via DVI, the cursor flickers very badly.  It operates fine on the HDMI monitor.  I have found online where it says to remove the unknown display, but I do not have any displays other than the 3 real monitors.
[17:58] <bilb_ono> reisio: that took me into the BIOS setup, but just F2 does that alone anyways
[17:58] <mcphail> ka1n: I would blame the disk, the SATA cable, the power supply or the motherboard before blaming the filesystem. I don't think a new kernel is likely to be the answer
[17:58] <ioria> bilb_ono, with shift after post sometimes you have to be a bit persistent
[17:58] <reisio> bilb_ono: no, CTRL+ALT+F2 when you're at the purple screen
[17:58] <Serghio> go to install znc universe
[17:58] <Serghio> wget  please . some hae?
[17:59] <mcphail> ka1n: in saying that, it is easy to swap kernels to check
[17:59] <Serghio> have  wget?
[17:59] <bilb_ono> ioria: what do you mean? I was just holding it, how can you get more persistant than that?
[17:59] <reisio> sirEgghead: try another cable first
[17:59] <sirEgghead> reisio: I have.    I had one connected to begin with before I finished setting everything up.  I had to reinstall with all 3 hooked up to get it all to work properly.
[18:01] <reisio> sirEgghead: "Don't think so" doesn't inspire confidence :)
[18:01] <ioria> bilb_ono, right after post, just press more times ...
[18:02] <bilb_ono> gah. not fast enough i guess. this is ridiculous
[18:02] <sirEgghead> reisio: Ok, let me rephrase.  Going off of memory, it works properly with just one monitor hooked up via DVI.  However, I am working currently and it is more of an inconvenience to disconnect 2 monitors than it is to go off of my memory and/or deal with the flickering.
[18:02] <reisio> bilb_ono: yup
[18:02] <sirEgghead> reisio: Last time I unhooked one of the monitors, I couldn't get my display working properly again.
[18:02] <reisio> sirEgghead: ah, thought you said it wasn't working on one
[18:02] <sirEgghead> >.>
[18:03] <reisio> maybe your card just sucks at powering that many monitors
[18:03] <sirEgghead> reisio: Works fine in Windows and in Linux Mint.
[18:03] <reisio> okay
[18:03] <reisio> do you have the mint install still?
[18:03] <sirEgghead> reisio: No, I wiped it yesterday.
[18:03] <reisio> okay, well
[18:03] <reisio> it was probably using a different driver/version or kernel/version
[18:03] <Serghio> reisio
[18:03] <Serghio> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[18:04] <reisio> Serghio: far out
[18:04] <julian-delphiki> Serghio: we don't really need the play by play.
[18:04] <Serghio> now?
[18:04] <julian-delphiki> Serghio: if you did all the commands he said, znc should work now.
[18:04] <sirEgghead> reisio: "maybe" and "probably" doesn't inspire confidence.  :)
[18:05] <Serghio> look
[18:05] <Serghio> configure: No compiler with C++11 support was found
[18:05] <Serghio> configure: error: Either upgrade your compiler, or use ZNC 1.4
[18:05] <Serghio> -.-
[18:05] <Serghio> znc 1.4
[18:05] <Serghio> OLD VERSION
[18:05] <sirEgghead> Silence!  I keel you!
[18:06] <sirEgghead> lol
[18:06] <bilb_ono> awesome! it was escape, not shift
[18:06] <Serghio> thnx
[18:06] <bilb_ono> but actually idk, it just says grub> _
[18:07] <teward> Serghio: I have a PPA that has builds... they use the newer toolchains but ehh
[18:07] <bilb_ono> like a grub terminal, not a grub menu
[18:07] <Serghio> ok
[18:07] <bilb_ono> is there a way to launch the grub menu from the grub terminal?
[18:07] <ioria> bilb_ono, it's the GRUB SHELL
[18:08] <bilb_ono> ioria: ah ok grub shell. can I launch the menu from here?
[18:08] <teward> Serghio: https://launchpad.net/~teward/+archive/ubuntu/znc if you want to use it, but no guarantees about compatibility.  (It has 1.6.0 in there, i probably need to push a new build though, because the toolchain issues can break znc-buildmod)
[18:08] <TJ-> bilb_ono: try "help" - do you get scrolling list of commands?
[18:08] <ioria> bilb_ono, i'm afraid not
[18:08] <bilb_ono> yeah
[18:08] <Serghio> teward  is ur file?
[18:08] <bilb_ono> well thats just great. Can I remove the “splash and quiet” entries from the kernel command line?
[18:09] <TJ-> bilb_ono: Try "set" - that should report environment variables, the import ones being "prefix" and "root"
[18:09] <ioria> bilb_ono, in some way it's not finding the kernel to load
[18:09] <teward> Serghio: the packages in that PPA are indeed done by myself, based off of Debian, but the actual Ubuntu toolchains used are in a separate PPA.  I have a question though: what Ubuntu are you on?
[18:09] <Serghio> ok
[18:09] <Serghio> thnx
[18:09] <Serghio> ubuntu 12
[18:10] <Serghio> thnx
[18:10] <bilb_ono> ioria: this was just working. I reboot it and it stops finding the kernel?
[18:10] <julian-delphiki> Serghio: btw, saying ubuntu 12 is not too useful. is it 12.04 or 12.10?\
[18:10] <Serghio> yes 12.04
[18:11] <bilb_ono> set prefix gives (hd0,gpt2)/boot/grub, set root=hd0, gpt2
[18:11] <ioria> bilb_ono, follow TJ-
[18:12] <TJ-> bilb_ono: OK, that tells us that the /boot/grub/ directory is supposed to be in partition #2 of hard-disk 0
[18:12] <Serghio> is done
[18:12] <Serghio> thnx guys!
[18:12] <Serghio> so much!
[18:12] <TJ-> bilb_ono: if you ended up at the grub prompt that suggests the files expected to be there, are missing, or those settings are incorrect
[18:12] <Serghio> teward , reisio , julian-delphiki and all
[18:12] <Serghio> thnx!
[18:13] <ioria> bilb_ono, changed the partition table ?
[18:13] <TJ-> bilb_ono: I missed out on what the original problem is - without intercepting GRUB does the system load a kernel at all?
[18:14] <reisio> hitting esc doesn't always yield a grub prompt?
[18:14] <bilb_ono> i didn’t do anything I hope. i just installed it following the steps, it worked fine, now when I press restart, it does this
[18:14] <bilb_ono> http://askubuntu.com/questions/477247/ubuntu-12-04-stuck-at-boot-splash-screen which is the original problem
[18:14] <TJ-> bilb_ono: what Ubuntu release is installed? curent GRUB v2 uses the Shift key to get the menu; Escape was with GRUB v1
[18:14] <bilb_ono> 12.04
[18:15] <TJ-> bilb_ono: OK ... could be GRUB v1 then, so my memory of the required commands are very rusty... however, lets try the ones I know for GRUB v2: type "insmod normal"
[18:16] <bilb_ono> seems to be no output
[18:16] <reisio> thought he was at a prompt and not a menu
[18:16] <TJ-> bilb_ono: as long as there is no error message we're good
[18:16] <TJ-> bilb_ono: now type "normal" and you *should* see the grub menu
[18:16] <ioria> set prefix=(hd0,1)/boot/grub    set root=(hd0,1) insmod normal   normal  ... stuff like that
[18:17] <bilb_ono> hmm no it just goes back to that purple ubuntu screen with the 5 orange circles
[18:17] <TJ-> bilb_ono: That means GRUB has loaded the linux kernel... press Escape now to get rid of the splash screen, see what messages are there/appear
[18:18]  * TJ- thinks that the kernel upgrade broke the initrd.img, possibly due to lack of space in /boot/
[18:18] <ioria> right
[18:18] <TJ-> bilb_ono: Have you already tried to boot from an older kernel image, by selecting one from the GRUB boot menu?
[18:18] <bilb_ono> is that something I did? the kernel upgrade? escape seems to not be working
[18:19] <bilb_ono> i cant get to the grub boot menu. thats one of my goals
[18:19] <TJ-> bilb_ono: OK, don't worry too much, if there's a problem the kernel may have frozen
[18:19] <ioria> bilb_ono, no live usb available ?
[18:19] <bilb_ono> no I do have 2 live usb’s in fact
[18:20] <bilb_ono> live meaning there is an ubuntu iso image on it ?
[18:20] <ioria> bilb_ono, yeah
[18:21] <TJ-> bilb_ono: OK ... when the system starts if it has GRUB v1 the interrupt key is Escape - Precise 12.04 has GRUB v1 by default
[18:21] <bilb_ono> ok. yeah escape worked to get into the grub shell
[18:22] <ablest1980> hello need some help
[18:22] <TJ-> bilb_ono: OK, we need to get you into the menu without GRUB auto-booting the default entry, so you can select an older kernel
[18:22] <nicomachus> !ask | ablest1980
[18:22] <ablest1980> want to change ablestx@ablestx-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ to ablest1980@ablest1980-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ in terminal
[18:23] <TJ-> bilb_ono: My problem is, the 12.04 system I have here is using GRUB v2 so I can't quickly replicate your scenario
[18:23] <nicomachus> ablest1980: you may find this helpful: https://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username
[18:24] <ablest1980> k ty
[18:24] <bilb_ono> ok. and i can’t switch to grub v2 easily?
[18:24] <TJ-> bilb_ono: With GRUB v2 if you do "insmod normal"  and then "normal" you should see the boot menu and GRUB should wait for your input; it should *not* auto-start the default entry
[18:25] <TJ-> bilb_ono: at the grub prompt does "ver" report the GRUB version?
[18:26] <bilb_ono> no it doesn’t like that, error: unknown command ‘ver’
[18:26] <bilb_ono> same with version and -v
[18:27] <TJ-> bilb_ono: yes, same here, I'm testing GRUB v2 in a virtual machine
[18:27] <ketamine> Hello
[18:28] <tobben> ketamine, please join ##tobben
[18:28] <teward> tobben: don't advertise channels
[18:28] <ketamine> I'm looking for some help with a monitor issue
[18:29] <ka1n> mcphail: its not the hardware, its a know issue: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93581#c13
[18:29] <DJones> tobben: Please dont advertise offtopic channels
[18:29] <JustCurious> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, and this page is not available: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/precise-security/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages
[18:30] <JustCurious> why not? support until 2017?
[18:31] <JustCurious> it happens when I try to update the packets
[18:31] <TJ-> bilb_ono: Does "ls ($root)/grub/" list something like "i386-pc/ locale/ fonts/ grubenv"  ?
[18:31] <bilb_ono> TJ-: ok 1 thing I changed when this was working was updating the drivers to nvidia drivers instead of whatever it was using before. any way that could have done this?
[18:31] <helpplzubuntu> hi
[18:31] <ioria> JustCurious, try http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/precise-security.obsolete/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages
[18:31] <helpplzubuntu> still support utopic
[18:31] <TJ-> bilb_ono: It's not entirely clear what the actual issue is yet... if it is a corrupted/truncated initrd.img or kernel, that's an out-of-space issue
[18:31] <helpplzubuntu> ?
[18:31] <bilb_ono> ls ($root)/grub/    lists “file not found
[18:32] <TJ-> bilb_ono: Right, so the 'root' value could be incorrect, or the file-system could be corrupted
[18:33] <bilb_ono> echo $root gives hd0, gpt2 . not sure if that helps
[18:33] <TJ-> bilb_ono: I suggest you get yourself sorted out with a Live ISO on USB and boot from that and use "Try Ubuntu" then come back to us and we can do much better diagnosis and fix
[18:33] <bilb_ono> ok
[18:33] <JustCurious> thanks ioria, but if it's obsolete, what I gain with this?
[18:33] <helpplzubuntu> any1: still support utopic?
[18:34] <ioria> JustCurious, .........
[18:35] <JustCurious> pioria, seriously, I am a newbie
[18:35] <MrPuppet69> Hello everyone!
[18:35] <JustCurious> ioria
[18:36] <ioria> JustCurious,  as you can see there is no precise-security   http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/
[18:36] <JustCurious> I thought Ubuntu 12.04 was supported until 2017
[18:36] <bilb_ono> TJ-: ok im in the terminal in try ubuntu
[18:36] <JustCurious> then they lied
[18:37] <DJones> JustCurious: it is supported until 2017
[18:37] <JustCurious> but if there is not security updates
[18:37] <MrPuppet69> I just set up passwordless login via RSA encryption from my SSH Ubuntu server. However, while my RSA private key is encrypted via 128 bit AES, I can still view it with less without it prompting for a password. Is that normal behavior?
[18:37] <joadr> I've an airport (apple) and it uses 802.11a,b,g,n,ac and all that.. my pc supports wireless a,b,g,n but when I connect with my ubuntu, it only shows wireless g, so I have poor signal and poor internet speed, is there a way to force wireless n? Forgot to mention that my Macbook connects to the wireless n
[18:38] <JustCurious> but if there is not security updates for Ubuntu 12.04, what's the point? DJones
[18:38] <joadr> I mean, force my ubuntu to connect with wireless n insted of wireless g
[18:38] <Ben64> JustCurious: there are security updates, ddebs is something different
[18:38] <DJones> JustCurious: My 12.04 install is still getting updates
[18:38] <TJ-> bilb_ono: I need to go to dinner here; but I'm sure there are several others can talk you through what's needed - essential mounting the problem file-system(s) as a 'chroot' and exploring/fixing it
[18:38] <ioria> JustCurious,  DebuggingProgramCrash
[18:39] <JustCurious> where can I get these security updates Ben64 ?
[18:40] <Ben64> JustCurious: "these" ?
[18:40] <ioria> JustCurious,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[18:40] <JustCurious> #############################################################
[18:41] <JustCurious> ################### OFFICIAL UBUNTU REPOS ###################
[18:41] <JustCurious> #############################################################
[18:41] <JustCurious> ###### Ubuntu Main Repos
[18:41] <JustCurious> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20120823.1)]/ dists/precise/main/binary-i386/
[18:41] <JustCurious> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20120823.1)]/ dists/precise/restricted/binary-i386/
[18:41] <Ben64> yeah, obviously don't spam the channel, use paste.ubuntu.com
[18:41] <TJ-> JustCurious: Try asking in #ubuntu-hardened where the security team are
[18:41] <Fatar> did he just get muted
[18:42] <hio_> hey, what is ubuntu snappy? are there still deb packages there? i don't understand
[18:42] <JustCurious> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11926512/
[18:42] <TJ-> JustCurious: I seem to remember it is simply that precise-updates contains everything that used to be in precise-security, so change all -security references to -updates
[18:42] <hio_> should i use ubuntu snappy right now as my desktop?
[18:42] <Ben64> why are you trying ddebs anyway
[18:42] <Ben64> JustCurious: ^ they are for debugging
[18:42] <DJones> !snappy | hio_
[18:43] <JustCurious> Ben64 could you pass me your sources.list data?
[18:43] <hio_> what does "rendition of ubuntu" mean? its a completely new distribution?
[18:43] <Ben64> JustCurious: no...
[18:44] <JustCurious> well thanks
[18:44] <TJ-> JustCurious: that sources.list dos *not* contain references to any ddeb repos, so that must be coming from something else, maybe under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[18:44] <ioria> JustCurious,  http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository/SourcesList
[18:45] <JustCurious> from synaptic maybe
[18:45] <JustCurious> I don't know! :(
[18:45] <TJ-> JustCurious: "ls -latr /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[18:45] <teward> JustCurious: synaptic just uses the same files that TJ- mentioned - use their command
[18:45] <joadr> I've an airport (apple) and it uses 802.11a,b,g,n,ac and all that.. my pc supports wireless a,b,g,n but when I connect with my ubuntu, it only shows wireless g, so I have poor signal and poor internet speed, is there a way to force ubuntu to connecto to wireless n? Forgot to mention that my Macbook connects to the wireless n
[18:45] <ioria> JustCurious,  wow it's a ppa.sources.list
[18:47] <JustCurious> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11926541/
[18:47] <ablest1980> hello i want to change ablest1980@ablestx-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ to ablest1980@ablest1980-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ in terminal how may i?
[18:47] <JustCurious> should I remove all ppa-source.lists ?
[18:47] <ketamine> Hoping someone may be of help. I am using debian but maybe someone will know anyways
[18:47] <ketamine> Hopefully someone could advise me on where to read or figure this out. I have had one tiny bug with my KVM switch in debian where if the PC went to sleep while I was on channel 2 and I went back to 1 the resolution would be small. Once I went to screen preferences it would auto correct. I just ignored it. Today I had this happen and now it will not auto fix and it shows it as an unknown screen with 640x480 resolution only.
[18:47] <teward> ketamine: you need #debian
[18:47] <teward> on oftc
[18:47] <teward> !debian | ketamine
[18:47] <ketamine> I uninstalled and reinstalled nvidia drivers with no luck
[18:48] <teward> ketamine: we don't give support for Debian here
[18:48] <ketamine> alright x.x
[18:48] <TJ-> JustCurious: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ddebs.list"  ... that's where the entries likely are
[18:48] <bilb_ono> why is it when you boot to a live usb, sometimes it gives you the pretty GUI “try ubuntu or Install ubuntu” and sometimes it give you the ugly grub looking black and white text with the same options?
[18:48]  * TJ- must go to dinner, sorry
[18:48] <bilb_ono> thanks for your help TJ-
[18:49] <JustCurious> TJ- No entry for that
[18:49] <TJ-> bilb_ono: the black-and-white screen is GRUB when the PC boots the device in UEFI mode, it's pretty when booting in LEgacy BIOS mode
[18:49] <nicomachus> pretty purple.
[18:49] <bilb_ono> ah how can I specifically choose the black and white?
[18:49] <fusion_> Hello, how can I find out what program or pid is being used when netstat -anlp only shows me a "-" ?
[18:50] <TJ-> JustCurious: locate the file containing the references with: "grep ddeb /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list"
[18:50] <TJ-> bilb_ono: that's controlled by the PC's boot menu choices, not the operating system. This *might* be part of your original problem... the PC booting in the wrong mode
[18:51] <bilb_ono> i swear the bios says UEFI. but its booting into the pretty mode
[18:51] <TJ->  -- gone --
[18:51] <ablest1980> hello i want to change ablest1980@ablestx-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ to ablest1980@ablest1980-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ in terminal how may i?
[18:51] <joadr> !802.11n
[18:51] <JustCurious> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11926572/
[18:53] <Spartacle> Hey guys, I brought a HP stream 13 and suffering my random wireless disconnects, usually switching aeroplane mode off and on gets my back online
[18:53] <Spartacle> but I have no idea how to troubleshoot, dmesg doesnt show anything obvious
[18:53] <JustCurious> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/11926572/ are you gone? :-(
[18:54] <teward> JustCurious: you may want to remove the ddebs.list file
[18:54] <Spartacle> fusion_, most likely nfs in my experience
[18:54] <JustCurious> how teward?
[18:54]  * teward scratches head
[18:55] <fusion_> Spartacle, The source of the is from the host not the server
[18:55] <teward> JustCurious: well you can either purge it or you can manually comment out the lines
[18:55] <fellayaboy> Samba Question: i cant write to certain folders in my samba share even though im a valid user in samba
[18:55] <fusion_> Spartacle, I see the random block ports on my firewall
[18:55] <JustCurious> teward, the thing is they are not in my sources.list
[18:55] <Spartacle> ablest1980, https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ubuntu%20ps1%20bashrc
[18:55] <teward> JustCurious: so either `sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ddebs.list`, or edit the file (with sudo) and add # at the beginning
[18:55] <teward> JustCurious: no, because sources.list.d/*, a folder inside /etc/apt/ is ALSO capable of holding additional lists
[18:56] <teward> of sources
[18:56] <ablest1980> k ty
[18:56] <JustCurious> ok thanks
[18:56] <teward> JustCurious: so that the /etc/apt/sources.list doesn't get infinitely cluttered AND so you can manage repositories more easier
[18:56] <MrPuppet69> Hey guys, I have set a passphrase for my RSA private key. How am I still able to view it using only "less" in the terminal without it prompting for the passphrase?
[18:57] <Spartacle> fusion_, can you pastebin it?
[18:57] <teward> MrPuppet69: um... i assume you mean `less RSAPrivKeyFile` ?
[18:57] <fusion_> Spartacle, you want netstat or the ufw.log or both?
[18:57] <teward> MrPuppet69: because that's 'encrypted' - to actually USE the key you have to decrypt
[18:57] <teward> and then you need the password
[18:57] <Spartacle> fusion_, netstat o
[18:57] <fellayaboy> i copied this folder from a windows share but i cant write to it...but on linux side it looks fine...  do i have to delete this folder, set the permissions on windows and recopy it back into my linux samba in order for me to write...or is there a linux -windows permission editor
 No, I mean the id_rsa file which contains the private key.
[18:59] <MrPuppet69> Can't someone just copy paste they key and use it?
[18:59] <teward> MrPuppet69: same concept RSAPrivKeyFile is a placeholder not the real filename
[18:59] <teward> MrPuppet69: do you see an Proc-Type: field in there, and it says ENCRYPTED ?
[18:59] <teward> in the output
[19:01] <Ashu> i have downloaded the ubuntu recently but will installing it shows error what shall i do...?
[19:02] <JustCurious> thank you teward, I think you resolved my problem
[19:02] <Guest1165> question related with chroot, how do I install multiple packages
[19:02] <Guest1165> 	    to chroot env let say /home/user/chroot/ without using chroot
[19:02] <Guest1165> 	    command ?
[19:02] <Guest1165>
[19:02] <EriC^^> fellayaboy: change the permissions in linux
[19:02] <teward> !multiline | Guest1165
[19:02] <teward> bah
[19:02] <Guest1165> teward: sorry.
[19:02] <teward> Guest1165: don't type/paste to multiple lines, say it on all one line
[19:02] <MrPuppet69> Teward, yeah it says encrypted.
[19:03] <fusion_> Spartacle, when I netstat -o > file   , its telling me permission denied
[19:03] <teward> MrPuppet69: then it won't help them if they don't have the password.
[19:03] <MrPuppet69> By the way, how do I respond to you directly? Which command do I use? Sorry, newbie here.
[19:03] <teward> MrPuppet69: if there were no password on the key, i'd be worried.
[19:03] <teward> MrPuppet69: just put my nick at the beginning like i'm doing.
[19:04] <MrPuppet69> teward Like this
[19:04] <Guest1165> question is related with chroot, how do I install multiple packages to chroot env let say /home/user/chroot/ without using chroot command?
[19:04] <Spartacle> fusion_, sorry that o was a slip of the finger... 'netstat -ntlp' as root is what you need
 Not sure if it's working.
[19:04] <teward> MrPuppet69: yep, that works and pings me :)
[19:04] <teward> MrPuppet69: it's working.
[19:04] <EriC^^> Guest1165: sudo chroot /home/user/chroot , then install as if you're in the install
[19:04] <MrPuppet69> teward Ah, cool : )
[19:04] <Spartacle> fusion_, but a process showing as - maybe because you are not root/sudo
[19:04] <EriC^^> Guest1165: ah, i misread
[19:04] <teward> MrPuppet69: the password prompt is when it's encrypted, as long as you have a secure password you're relatively OK
[19:05] <EriC^^> Guest1165: why do you not want to use the chroot command?
[19:05] <fusion_> Spartacle,  no problem, sorry I didn't catch that, I'm new to linux and learning.
[19:05] <Ashu> WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE]
[19:05] <fusion_> Spartacle, I did run it as root and it did the same thing
[19:05] <wileee> !details | ashu
[19:06] <MrPuppet69> teward Yeah, I'm a little confused about that. Let me briefly describe what's going through my mind, and maybe you could clear some of the misconceptions I might have.
[19:06] <Spartacle> fusion_, no worries, we are/were all new at some point
[19:06] <fusion_> Spartacle, ok, for some reason, its not letting me redirect the command to a file.
[19:06] <MrPuppet69> So, I create two RSA keys, one public and one private. I stored the public key on my server, and now I set a password on my private key.
[19:07] <teward> MrPuppet69: sure, but consider i'm also still at work, slow response times are important
[19:07] <fusion_> Spartacle, the command I ran was "sudo netstat -ntlp > file.txt"
[19:07] <MrPuppet69> teward Haha, sure. Sorry to disturb you at work.
[19:07] <Guest1165> EriC^^: I don't wanted to user chroot command , so env is /home/user/ubuntu-12 which is basically ubuntu-12.04 now with chroot /home/user/ubuntu-12 and then apt-get works. is there anyway I can install it from host rather then using chroot and then apt-get
[19:07] <teward> MrPuppet69: ping me at the beginning of each line too so i don't miss anything
[19:07] <Spartacle> fusion_, you'll need write permission to the folder you are in.. what user are you running the commands as? try "cd ~ ; netstat -ntlp >> file.txt"
[19:08] <EriC^^> Guest1165: you can run sudo chroot /home/user/ubuntu-12 apt-get install <something>
[19:09] <EriC^^> but you'd still be using the chroot command, i guess
[19:09] <EriC^^> not sure if you can do that without the chroot command
[19:09] <MrPuppet69> teward My question is that why can I still view my id_rsa file containing my private key using just the "less" command, and it doesn't even ask for my password before I view it using "less." If someone were somehow able to get access to my account, couldn't they just copy the key and store it in another file, then use it to access my server?
[19:09] <fusion_> Spartacle, I figured it out lol. I had to change the directory that I was trying to save it too.
[19:11] <Guest1165> ok
[19:11] <teward> MrPuppet69: because they still need your password to use it
[19:11] <MrPuppet69> teward I mean, when I encrypt the file using, say filevault on OS X, it would prompt me for the password before I can view the contents. Here, it doesn't, that's why I'm a little confused.
[19:11] <MrPuppet69> teward I see.
[19:11] <teward> MrPuppet69: that's a different 'encryption' - likely it's being encrypted with a different key, and that needs a password first so you can gain access to the already-encrypted private key
[19:12] <teward> MrPuppet69: when you generate a key and it asks you for the password, that's the password to decrypt the key for use when you need to verify ownership of the key
[19:12] <Ashu> Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO. For more information , Please see the log file   it comes every time while installing plz help what shall i do????????
[19:13] <teward> MrPuppet69: to that end, having the viewability of the private key, while it's encrypted with a password and they don't know the password you put on it, they can't really do anything with it without bruteforcing the pw
[19:14] <wileee> Ashu, what log file, and calm down stop the helps.
[19:14] <MrPuppet69> teward I see, so if I copy pasted the key to another file (say id_rsa_copy), and used it on another computer, the file won't be the same as the original id_rsa file?
[19:14] <teward> MrPuppet69: lets put it in a different way that may be more understandable.
[19:14] <Ashu> it shows an error
[19:14] <MrPuppet69> teward Haha, okay cool. Definitely.
[19:15] <teward> MrPuppet69: i have a file.  I say "This is the public information.  The secure, top secret information is in this here safe.".  The safe in question has a pincode that is unknown digits long.
[19:15] <teward> MrPuppet69: them having the public information and the safe doesn't help them if they want the secret information
[19:15] <wileee> Ashu, If you cannot show the errors and give some details here you will be wasting your time. Look at all the others doing this and getting help.
[19:15] <teward> MrPuppet69: insomuch that because they need my pincode to open said safe, or they have to brute force open the safe.
[19:15] <Ashu> ERRoR:"Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO" it comes every time while installing
[19:16] <wileee> Ashu, Ah, this the mini installer?
[19:16] <teward> MrPuppet69: the same concept applies here: they could have your Public Key, and your Private Key, but since your Private Key is encrypted, they either need to brute force the password you set on it, or they need the password, to actually authenticate as the private key
[19:16] <Ashu> so how can i solve this???
[19:16] <teward> MrPuppet69: because it's encrypted simply having the encrypted private key doesn't help them since they can't put the password that would 'decrypt' the encrypted private key for use
[19:17] <bilb_ono> how much does it cost to have someone come to your house and install ubuntu for you?
[19:17] <wileee> !mini | Ashu is this what your using
[19:17] <teward> MrPuppet69: the nearest analogy is that "private info in the safe vs. public disclosed info on the same thing" example I just gave you - they don't know the pincode to the safe so they can't get to the private information
[19:17] <teward> MrPuppet69: similarly, without your password or brute forcing the password, your encrypted private key is of no real use to them
[19:18] <Guest1165> EriC^^: Thanks that will work f
[19:18] <wileee> Ashu, Or are you trying to install ubuntu with Wubi?
[19:18] <teward> MrPuppet69: but your actual concern shouldn't be "What if they get my key", your concern at that point is "If they have my encrypted private key they're in my system."
[19:18] <teward> MrPuppet69: and the moment they're in your system, you are quite literally screwed.
[19:18] <EriC^^> Guest1165: np
[19:18] <teward> MrPuppet69: so I'd be less worried about your private key which is encrypted.  And more worried about the security of the machine HOLDING the private key
[19:18] <teward> (the safest thing is to keep the private keys off of your computer on encrypted media)
[19:19] <MrPuppet69> Ah, I see. So, there's another "layer" of security in the file, and just being able to view the file and see the encryption key doesn't allow them to actually "use" they key?
[19:19] <MrPuppet69> teward Ah, I see. So, there's another "layer" of security in the file, and just being able to view the file and see the encryption key doesn't allow them to actually "use" they key?
[19:19] <MrPuppet69> teward Whoops, forgot to mention you first time : )
[19:19] <teward> MrPuppet69: i saw what you were saying since i'm watching the channel right now.
[19:19] <Ashu> i m installing it directly does it matter???without any CD or bootable device.
[19:20] <fusion_> Spartacle, http://pastebin.com/FN2RWag, netstat /ntlp didn't show the connection.
[19:20] <MrPuppet69> teward But if I kept the keys off of my computer, then I wouldn't be able to access my server right?
[19:20] <teward> MrPuppet69: Another example that's even more laymans-terms than the one i gave is this: I give you a list of names, and a locked box. I don't give you the key.  I say "The personal information tied to each of these names is in the locked box"
[19:20] <wileee> Ashu, Wubi is not supported your using a install that is a bad idea.
[19:20] <teward> MrPuppet69: so you can't get to that personal information without the key to the box.  What you see when you `less` your private key is the key after it's encrypted
[19:21] <teward> MrPuppet69: the decryption 'key' isn't stored in there, afaik, and the 'decryption' of the key won't work without the password
[19:21] <teward> MrPuppet69: and if you keep the keys off your computer, on an encrypted drive, you can specify the key file to use with `-i /path/to/file`
[19:21] <teward> without backticks but meh
[19:21] <teward> which is what I do, but I"m insane and paranoid so meh
[19:22] <teward> MrPuppet69: so your ultimate concern is not "They have my encrypted private key!" but "Did I use a strong passphrase on the key" and "Do they know my password"
[19:22] <wileee> Ashu, If you have a linux install and grub on the computer you could just boot the iso, otherwise put it on a disk/usb boot it and install.
[19:22] <RainMan28> Is there any benefit to using an init script to start something at boot vs just using crontab?
[19:23] <bilb_ono> Is there anything at all that persists when you re-install ubuntu ‘erase ubuntu and install from scratch'
[19:23] <Ashu> thanx a lot..
[19:23] <wileee> no problem Ashu ;)
[19:24] <bilb_ono> Ive been trying to do this for about a week now and starting to think there are system level things preventing me from doing this beyond just the os
[19:25] <wileee> bilb_ono, If you erase it, it is gone, can you be more clear?
[19:25] <MrPuppet69> teward That was very helpful, I get a much better picture now : )
[19:26] <wileee> bilb_ono, This anything to do with a dual boot, and booting?
[19:26] <Spartacle> fusion_, that pastebin was removed
[19:26] <bilb_ono> wileee I can’t successfully install ubuntu. It never thinks its a bootable device. I don’t think anyone else has to make their ubuntu bootable, I think that is done when its installed. Thus I think my attempts at reinstalling are somehow missing something bigger, an issue that is preveting the total install
[19:26] <MrPuppet69> teward However, I'd like to know about how that happens, in more technical terms. Is there anywhere I could perhaps read about it? I tried Google, but nada : /
[19:26] <bilb_ono> no I just want 1 install of ubuntu, plain and simple
[19:26] <fusion_> http://pastebin.com/FN2RWagb
[19:27] <fusion_> i just looked at it?
[19:27] <wileee> bilb_ono, You on the live now?
[19:27] <bilb_ono> other problems I have seen: no, I am on “ubuntu” of UEFI
[19:27] <bilb_ono> and there is an install of ubuntu for sure. I just installed it
[19:27] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: you mean you can boot it, but it won't boot automatically?
[19:27] <bilb_ono> its just a question of reaching it
[19:28] <wileee> bilb_ono, Ah UEFI, that is the most crucial info at this time.
[19:28] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: I can’t boot it. It says “No bootable devices - strike F1 to retry,...."
[19:28] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: what do you mean by you're on ubuntu of UEFI?
[19:28] <teward> MrPuppet69: unfortunately i understand how the encrypted key works, but I don't know where that's documented.
[19:28] <teward> sorry
[19:28] <bilb_ono> EriC^^ UEFI has a few items under it in the boot menu. I chose the ubuntu option
[19:29] <Spartacle> fusion_, that is a tcp connection from client to the NFS... umount your NFS and watch it disappear
[19:29] <EriC^^> ok, i guess your bios is set to csm legacy enabled
[19:29] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: turn csm legacy to disabled and uefi on and it should boot
[19:29] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999 before you try that for a sec
[19:30] <fusion_> Spartacle, If I unmount it, then how am i going to connect to my serveR?
[19:30] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: I can’t reach a terminal to type anything
[19:30] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: why not?
[19:30] <bilb_ono> and how do I turn csm legacy to disabled?
[19:30] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: or, how do I reach a terminal from the boot menu?
[19:30] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: after you choose ubuntu from the uefi menu, what happens?
[19:30] <wileee> !uefi | bilb_ono Have this wiki on hand
[19:31] <wileee> but follow EriC^^ to the T
[19:31] <Spartacle> fusion_, sorry, I meant unmount to just show you that it is NFS.. but remount the share afterwards ;)
[19:32] <aktx> http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/nasa-discovers-earths-bigger-older-cousin-kepler-452b/story-fnjwlcze-1227454755492
[19:33] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: interesting. in BIOS setup, I see that it is using the ubuntu boot option under UEFI. When I boot, it says “no bootable devices found”, when I specifically enter the boot menu setup and choose UEFI> ubuntu, it just gives me a blank black screen
[19:33] <MrPuppet69> teward Ah, that's unfortunate. So, to my understanding, the id_rsa key which I am viewing using "less" is not the "actual" key, but only the encrypted content?
[19:33] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: hold shift after choosing ubuntu
[19:33] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: did you check if csm legacy is enabled?
[19:33] <fusion_> Spartacle, just sudo umount nfs?
[19:33] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: how do I check if csm legacy is enabled?
[19:34] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: it should be under boot options
[19:34] <EriC^^> bios boot or csm legacy or so
[19:34] <teward> MrPuppet69: you're seeing the "encrypted" key, not the actual key, yes.
[19:34] <teward> MrPuppet69: i.e. the safe, or the locked box, in my laymans-terms examples
[19:35] <MrPuppet69> teward Thanks for the help, teward. Appreciate it : )
[19:35] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: under other options I see BIOS setup and Diagnostics. Do I pick one of those?
[19:35] <bilb_ono> to determine if csm legacy is enabled?
[19:35] <EriC^^> try setup
[19:36] <teward> MrPuppet69: just make sure to use strong passwords that're different than your logon passwords and such, to make it that much harder for them to guess the passwords
[19:36] <bilb_ono> ok bios setup. gives me a nice GUI that I can click and stuff. under boot sequence, I see UEFI is chosen and ubuntu is the first option, followed by UEFI: INT13
[19:36] <MrPuppet69> teward I sure will! : )
[19:37] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: any csm legacy option?
[19:37] <teward> MrPuppet69: and always remember: if you're afraid about the security of the private key on your computer, you should actually be worried about them gaining access to that computer with the keys on it rather than the keys, since the bigger risk is introduced by them popping your system
[19:37] <bilb_ono> there is a legacy option instead of UEFI. I don’t see anything about csm
[19:37] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: ok, that should be it
[19:37] <EriC^^> is it enabled?
[19:38] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: by enabled do you mean I should check legacy instead of UEFI?
[19:39] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: no, i mean legacy shouldn't be selected
[19:39] <bilb_ono> ah well its not. UEFI is selected
[19:39] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: ok, exit the bios and reboot, hold shift after selecting ubuntu
[19:40] <MrPuppet69> teward Can't agree more. I've got my drive encrypted, but I'm just concerned about keyloggers. How do I deal with those?
[19:41] <sinthap> hi, have any ddns client for ubuntu
[19:41] <teward> MrPuppet69: if you're that scared about malware you should be taking your computer and locking in a safe
[19:41] <MrPuppet69> teward I mean, there are supposedly keyloggers which are virtually indetectable these days right?
[19:41] <MrPuppet69> teward HAHAHA!
[19:41] <Realdudization> sup?
[19:41] <MrPuppet69> teward Yeah, there's no escape, lol.
[19:42] <bilb_ono> pressed enter on ubuntu, holding shift, and…………………………………………………nothing happens just a blank screen
[19:42] <bilb_ono> this is grub v1 not v2 if that makes a difference btwt
[19:42] <EriC^^> O.o
[19:42] <EriC^^> why do you have grubv1?
[19:42] <lordievader> v1? Wow, what version of Ubuntu?
[19:42] <bilb_ono> but if I press escape, it says “aborted” ,and gives me a boot: _ shell
[19:42] <bilb_ono> 12.04
[19:43] <bilb_ono> i wish I could use 14.04 but alas, I am trying to test software on 12.04
[19:43] <MrPuppet69> teward Also, the common practice is to copy paste passwords, but is that really safer than entering it via keyboard? I mean, many apps and browsers can get access to your clipboard pretty easily innit?
[19:43] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: ok, boot a live usb
[19:43] <bilb_ono> ok then what?
[19:43] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:43] <bilb_ono> where do I type it? How do I enter a terminal?
[19:44] <bilb_ono> in try ubuntu?
[19:44] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:44] <orothus> exit
[19:45] <teward> MrPuppet69: wrong guy to ask, because there's various different opinions on that
[19:46] <Pupp3tm4st3r> hi
[19:46] <fusion_> Spartacle, I tried remounting, and got hung at the same spot again.
[19:47] <d4rklit3> hi, im trying to do this tutorial, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-cron-to-automate-tasks-on-a-vps  I am on 14.04  and crond doesn't seem to be a valid service nor is chkconfig a command on the system. how do I check this on 14.04
[19:47] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: ok that command gives me http://termbin.com.icct
[19:47] <RainMan28> Is there any benefit to using an init script to start something at boot vs just using crontab?
[19:48] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: well, that's odd
[19:48] <bilb_ono> its kind of hanging like its waiting for something more
[19:48] <EriC^^> yeah type yes
[19:48] <bilb_ono> whats it supposed to do?
[19:48] <Pupp3tm4st3r> is anybody here who can help me with apache2 and php (building and some configuring options)
[19:48] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: you have 1 hdd right?
[19:48] <EriC^^> 2TB?
[19:48] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: yeah, and typing anything returns me to the command line
[19:48] <bilb_ono> yeah 2TB
[19:48] <OerHeks> Pupp3tm4st3r, better join #ubuntu-server for that
[19:49] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: ok, type ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi
[19:49] <EriC^^> what does it say?
[19:49] <skinux> Which Ubuntu Studio tools are meant for generating audio such as music?
[19:49] <Pupp3tm4st3r> OerHeks: Thanks, will try
[19:49] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: no such file or directory
[19:50] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: ok, well ubuntu seems to be installed in legacy mode, and you're using a msdos partition table
[19:50] <bilb_ono> in /sys/firmware I have acpi and mmap
[19:50] <bilb_ono> i am, I think I remember seeing msdos when I was checking it earlier
[19:50] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: curious how you get an ubuntu in uefi though, did you have ubuntu installed earlier? on a different disk perhaps?
[19:51] <bilb_ono> yeah this system is going from ubuntu to ubuntu
[19:51] <bilb_ono> ok so from here, how do I go about installing it “right"
[19:51] <OerHeks> skinux, lots of META packages, ubuntustudio-sound -recording -video, or ubuntustudio-audio forallmetapackages
[19:51] <^kiff^> hello
[19:52] <d4rklit3> anyone, how can i check if cron is even running?
[19:52] <OerHeks> d4rklit3, service cron status
[19:53] <d4rklit3> i see
[19:53] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: well, you could try setting legacy enabled in the bios and it should boot i think
[19:53] <d4rklit3> then what is crond? and why does digitalocean refer to it?
[19:53] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: or if you want uefi you could make a gpt partition table and install in uefi mode, you need to make sure you boot the usb in uefi mode though as it's booted in legacy mode right now
[19:53] <bilb_ono> EriC^^ so which of the legacy options do i choose?
[19:54] <EriC^^> choose legacy enabled
[19:54] <thispc> what is cron
[19:54] <EriC^^> and turn uefi off
[19:54] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: or just reinstall in uefi, it's up to you
[19:54] <OerHeks> d4rklit3, crond is used by packages, cronjob by users afaik
[19:55] <OerHeks> !cron
[19:56] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: ok so I unchecked UEFI and checked Legacy but there are checkboxes. 1 for USB storage, 1 for onboard NIC, 1 for CD/Dvd/Cd-rw drive, 1 for (Bus 04 dev 00) PCI Raid adapter
[19:57] <bilb_ono> which of these should I check and which order should they be in?
[19:57] <thispc> hi all i have removed windows 8 and install ubuntu before i have c d e f now where this partions
[19:58] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: put them before the hdd
[19:58] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: the hhd doesn’t seem to be an option
[19:59] <EriC^^> well check those
[20:00] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: ok they are all checked. What order should they be in. right now UB storage device is first which seems wrong. seems like it will just boot back to the live usb…?
[20:01] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: doesn't matter much
[20:01] <EriC^^> remove the usb and then boot
[20:03] <AAA_> There is still the second parallel desktop I can't switch into normally, is this normal after a system update? My only proof about it now is the two xchat windows confirmed in the System Monitor, while ... the hell? Ubuntu switched on ANOTHER desktop workspace after the system update? But of course did not leave me any option of switching between them... NOT funny, not funny at all.
[20:04] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: it works! imagine that
[20:04] <bilb_ono> thanks for your help!
[20:05] <RainMan28> Is there any benefit to using an init script to start something at boot vs just using crontab?
[20:05] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: great, no problem
[20:07] <AAA_> RainMan28, the advantage of a script is the ability to write any software, conditions, you can run any software you want, written in any language you like
[20:08] <rsv> i think my laptop has corrupted. When i login - it does not show any icons
[20:08] <rsv> or task manager
[20:09] <RainMan28> AAA_: thank you, that makes sense.
[20:11] <TJ-> EriC^^: nice work :)
[20:11] <rsv> I Also think my filesystem has got corrupted as well
[20:13] <AAA_> N !!! How I missed you! How is your fight with robots and stuff? Clinging to walls still?
[20:15] <skinux> OerHeks: I meant which program is meant for generating audio music? Something with a GUI.
[20:15] <AAA_> skinux: fruityloops? ProTracker?
[20:16] <skinux> So, Ubuntu Studio doesn't have any programs for generating?
[20:16] <tobben> skinlux, want to hear/listen my audio server now?
[20:16] <skinux> I'm not asking about listening to music, I use Pandora for that. I want to generate music for lyrics I write.
[20:17] <tobben> Ooups
[20:17] <TJ-> skinux: do you mean MIDI-type applications?
[20:17] <skinux> No, I would want to generate MP3
[20:17] <tobben> Thats what I do...
[20:17] <skinux> Although, I wouldn't mind playing around with generating MIDI audio.
[20:17] <brontosaurusrex> skinux: did you try http://www.hydrogen-music.org/hcms/ ?
[20:18] <OerHeks> Skyrider, Bass synthesizer/sample player/sequencer  ? see Freebird or the ausio list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList
[20:18] <AAA_> skinux: start trying various software, get familiar with trackers!
[20:18] <OerHeks> hydrogen is also in ubuntustudio indeed
[20:18] <skinux> What do you mean by trackers?
[20:19] <iIbeIkyr> hey ilbelkyr :)
[20:19] <tobben> skinux, I recommend ffmpeg
[20:20] <TJ-> skinux: rosegarden and various other JACK supporting apps are what most F/OSS musicians use
[20:20] <AAA_> skinux: you need to have knowledge of 90's music creation software like ProTracker and such, there are newer, better variants, but the simplicity and value is there, it is a way to create music tracks, hehe, ever played any S3T? LOL
[20:21] <skinux> tobben: I seriously doubt ffmpeg is a GUI for creating audio tracks.
[20:21] <daftykins> lol.
[20:21] <AAA_> adrenaline.mod is rarely played back correctly, only the original Pinball Fantasies could play it correctly, and still the best piece of music you could imagine...
[20:24] <newbee> I have a question about creating a Ubuntu Live USB through mac
[20:24] <Guest82138> I followed the instructions on the site here:
[20:24] <Guest82138> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osxhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[20:25] <dworniok> Hi
[20:25] <Guest82138> what I'm curious about it is, should I end up with an image that is Ubuntu ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso.dmg
[20:25] <dworniok> Please, I need help with kodi instalation on my ubuntu
[20:25] <AAA_> skinux: as I said above... start small, by creating your own .mod or oplaying back some existing and you will understand how it all works.
[20:25] <Guest82138> Or should it just be ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.dmg
[20:25] <Pupp3tm4st3r> guest82138
[20:26] <Pupp3tm4st3r> just rename the *.img.dmg to *.img
[20:26] <Pupp3tm4st3r> will bu sufficient
[20:26] <Pupp3tm4st3r> did this today three times (ubuntu, debian and centos) was working all the time
[20:27] <Pupp3tm4st3r> the transformation via hdiutil always appends the .dmg
[20:27] <kIoeri> ishanyx isn't here? :(
[20:27] <skinux> AAA_ My own .mod ? You mean re-mixing someone else's music?
[20:27] <Guest82138> ah, so just manually remove the <.iso> part of the file name?
[20:27] <Pupp3tm4st3r> wait...
[20:28] <Pupp3tm4st3r> you download a *.iso
[20:28] <Pupp3tm4st3r> right?
[20:28] <tobben> anyone knows the command for apt-get to search function, an example, search for 'nslookup' ?
[20:28] <Guest82138> yup
[20:28] <Pupp3tm4st3r> and then convert it via hdiutil to a img
[20:28] <kIoeri> AHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
[20:28] <Pupp3tm4st3r> as described on the website
[20:28] <Guest82138> then I ran the transform bia hdiutil
[20:28] <kIoeri> WAY TO GO genii
[20:28] <kIoeri> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
[20:28] <kIoeri> !ops TROLOLOLOLO MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM YEAHHHHHHHHHH FUCK MY ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS IM QUITING STAFF
[20:29]  * genii makes more coffee
[20:29] <DalekSec> genii: Wrong tab complete there.
[20:29] <lasers> genii: Wrong person?
[20:29] <Pupp3tm4st3r> yeah and the transformation process builds a *.img.dmg
[20:29] <Pupp3tm4st3r> normally
[20:29] <genii> lasers: Nope
[20:29] <tobben> type of "apt-get search function" ?
[20:30] <AAA_> skinux: .mod were 4-channel pro-tracker files, tracker is a way to compose music from samples and tracks and simple tricks. all music is just a re-mix of tones, voice tracks, sounds. no matter how original, it still uses the concept of tools( instruments, voices) and independent tracks, which under the old system are played from what we call the "notes". Tracker system uses something similar, just modernized.
[20:30] <Guest82138> the terminal hasn't responded after doing the lasts step so it might still be working right?
[20:30] <Pupp3tm4st3r> what step
[20:30] <Guest82138> step 8: sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/rdiskN bs=1m
[20:31] <Guest82138> it asked for my pass, which I entered, then it hasn't returned a prompt
[20:31] <tobben> how doing "apt-get" search fir nslookup ?
[20:31] <skinux> Anyone know a reason why streamed video would be stuck as if it were paused, even after restarting browser?
[20:31] <Pupp3tm4st3r> yeah that sometimes that takes a bit
[20:32] <Guest82138> I didn't know if it took more than a few minutes or if it should have written a .dmg (instead of a .iso.dmg)
[20:32] <Guest82138> ah okay, I'll wait a while then
[20:32] <EriC^^> Guest82138: sudo pkill -USR1 ^dd , should tell you about the progress
[20:32] <EriC^^> ( type it in another terminal )
[20:32] <AAA_> skinux: well, there are many reasons, for example when playing RealMedia networks video, the reason usually is something called "Buffering..."
[20:32] <skinux> In this case, it's NetFli
[20:33] <Guest82138> btw, when I created a tails live USB, I only really needed to do this: dd if=tails-i386-1.3.iso of=/dev/rdisk9 bs=16m && sync
[20:33] <skinux> It's not buffering, though it does just a little if I move the position selector.
[20:33] <Guest82138> I never had to change the iso to a dmg
[20:33] <Guest82138> thanks EriC^^
[20:34] <EriC^^> Guest82138: yeah that's not necessary, and using a higher bs makes it transfer quicker usually
[20:34] <skinux> AAA_ Is there something in the system that could have crashed which I need to manually restart?
[20:34] <Guest23552> Hi everyone! Im new and i wanna know how to find dolphin-emu channel. ANy idea?
[20:35] <Guest82138> how long would it take? I mean the tails one was sign. smaller, but still, it's been around 10min
[20:35] <AAA_> skinux: web videos are a beast that works only when the weather is right and can fail for a variety of reasons inside or outside your computer.
[20:35] <EriC^^> Guest82138: 10mins is pretty excessive, did you try the pkill command?
[20:35] <akurilin> question: with dpkg-query, how do I list only installed packages?
[20:36] <Guest82138> I wanted to wait to see if anyone would come in and say that was the equivalent of a delete system32 ;-)
[20:36] <skinux> AAA_ In other words, you really don't know what you're talking about, so you're giving a useless answer just to feel smart.
[20:36] <jhutchins_wk> skinux: You need to test other streams, preferably of the same type of content, and test local playback too.
[20:36] <reisio> akurilin: dpkg -l
[20:37] <Guest82138> no offense, it's just I don't want to follow something I don't understand completely, especially if it's sudo
[20:37] <reisio> akurilin: https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages
[20:37] <jhutchins_wk> skinux: No, you haven't given enough information for us to diagnose the problem.
[20:37] <akurilin> reisio: I was hoping to use globbing in there
[20:37] <akurilin> reisio: yep, looking at that, thank you
[20:37] <skinux> jhutchins_wk: I already tried to watch something else on NetFlix and it does the same thing.
[20:37] <reisio> akurilin: dpkg -l | grep -i foo
[20:37] <reisio> otherwise you might want to use a tool that starts with 'a'
[20:38] <akurilin> apt?
[20:38] <AAA_> skinux: I know only too well what I am talking about... I just tell you that you might spend hours solving problems with your computer only to find out the said video is corrupted on the server and will always stop at said point, I remember this happening even on youtube? It was so long ago...  wanted to see the end of something and it just never worked.
[20:38] <Guest82138> I ran sudo pkill -USR1 ^dd and it gave me a prompt saying "The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer"
[20:39] <skinux> Apparently I'm having the same problem with YouTube Videos.
[20:40] <Guest82138> nothing showing progress such as xxx-in xxx-out
[20:40] <skinux> Some kind of process must have crashed causing this....only thing I can guess.
[20:40] <AAA_> skinux: also, streaming service relies on high quality internet connection with pretty static IP on your side, and some caching, also, your ISP may be interfering with the streaming...
[20:41] <Guest82138> on another site, it says to ignore that and run http://computers.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-drive-for-mac-in-os-x--cms-21253
[20:42] <SLRK> com
[20:42] <Guest82138> sorry, diskutil eject /dev/diskN
[20:43] <EriC^^> Guest82138: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:43] <Pupp3tm4st3r> did you write diskN?
[20:43] <Guest82138> I'm going to try that now, restart and see if it worked... according to that other guide it looked like that should be it
[20:43] <Guest82138> nope
[20:43] <Guest82138> I wrote to /dev/disk1
[20:43] <Pupp3tm4st3r> okay :D
[20:43] <Guest82138> haha
[20:43] <CYBERH99> Alguien de España???
[20:43] <Guest82138> I'm new, but not 100% new, just 98% new
[20:44] <Guest82138> ;)
[20:44] <CYBERH99> I'm new too
[20:44] <jhutchins_wk> !es
[20:44] <stanreg> What's that software that one can use to install ubuntu-recommended apps? It's something like "after ubuntu". Hints?
[20:45] <jhutchins_wk> CYBERH99: You're welcome to practice your English here though.
[20:45] <Guest82138> EriC^^ it gave me this: sudo: parted: command not found Use netcat.
[20:45] <Pupp3tm4st3r> okay, was just wondering, on my mac disk1 is still my disk^^
[20:45] <wileee> stanreg, You see the after install stuff outside of the OS developers
[20:45] <Guest82138> I'll try to restart and see if that worked
[20:46] <Guest82138> oh, I have EfiFind too...
[20:46] <stanreg> wileee, ty.
[20:47] <Guest82138> thanks for the help, I'll be back if it didnt work or I can't figure it out
[20:48]  * yoyo x
[20:49] <Guest82138> btw, what is this command?
[20:49] <Guest82138> sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:49] <EriC^^> nevermind
[20:50] <h3inz> hey guys, hope any1 can help me out
[20:50] <Seveas> Guest82138: that'll run a command to display partition info and post the results on termbin.com
[20:50] <h3inz> im installing lubuntu via usb and all works fine (using forcepae cuz of old laptop); but at the end of the installation it tells me that software updates cannot be downloaded because apt does not work
[20:51] <Guest82138> oh, good I didn't just download some malware or something ;-)
[20:51] <jhutchins_wk> h3inz: I think we need more accurate wording on the error.
[20:51] <h3inz> jhutchins_wk: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2).
[20:51] <jhutchins_wk> h3inz: That should be ok though, you could reboot and troubleshoot apt/networking from a mostly working system.
[20:51] <jhutchins_wk> h3inz: You'll want to check your disk spce.
[20:52] <h3inz> disk space is at ~30%
[20:52] <h3inz> max
[20:52] <Seveas> h3inz: we need the *full* output of that command. And the command itself.
[20:53] <Guest82138> I'm re-downloading a fresh copy of the .iso.... should I run everything as shown in the guide but then replace the ".iso.dmg" with just ".dmg" (remove the /iso)?
[20:53] <Guest82138> or is that not necessary
[20:53] <h3inz> ok ill try to reproduce the error and then come back here; maybe tomorrow; thanks for the help til now cheers
[20:53] <jhutchins_wk> h3inz: Is this happening at the end of the debian installer or is this something else?  Sounds like Cydia might be involved.
[20:53] <EriC^^> Guest82138: why are you downloading a fresh copy? it's not necessary
[20:54] <EriC^^> Guest82138: run a checksum on the .iso to see if it's good
[20:54] <Guest82138> my friend just told me it may be a corrupted iso
[20:54] <EriC^^> !hashes | type md5sum /path/to/iso and compare here
[20:54] <Guest82138> checksum (I've heard the term, but don't know the command)
[20:55] <Guest82138> ah okay
[20:55] <Guest82138> so it's like checking the key?
[20:55] <ryein> how can i make apt-get install dependencies
[20:55] <EriC^^> it hashes the iso
[20:55] <mokmeister> burn at 4x max
[20:55] <ryein> ?
[20:55] <EriC^^> Guest82138: if anything is different the md5sum will be different
[20:56] <cheetahw26> what is the order of operations when ubuntu starts... when there are older entries in /etc/rc?.d/  and other entries in /etc/init/  ?   Does ubuntu run through the older style first?
[20:56] <jhutchins_wk> ryein: That's what it does by default.
[20:56] <jhutchins_wk> ryein: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[20:56] <Guest82138> okay, also, can I just copy the iso to the drive like I did with tails (like: dd if=tails-i386-1.3.iso of=/dev/rdisk9 bs=16m && sync) or is it necessary to convert the .iso to a .dmg (which I didn't do for tails)?
[20:57] <ryein> jhutchins_wk: i can see packages when searching but it claims it has unmet dependencies
[20:57] <ryein> jhutchins_wk: they match perfectly
[20:57] <EriC^^> Guest82138: no, just dd it
[20:57] <EriC^^> Guest82138: the renaming doesn't do anything
[20:59] <Guest82138> so I *don''t* have to run the hdiutil convert if I have efifind?
[20:59] <bmpr> hi
[20:59] <qpoo> hello there, when does it happen that you can access websites but not your mails ?
[21:00] <bmpr> hi
[21:00] <reisio> qpoo: when your email server is poor?
[21:00] <wileee> qpoo, Focus on the actual issue with details if you can.
[21:01] <jhutchins_wk> qpoo: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[21:01] <bmpr> I have compiled a few executable files, and I want to make them available almost entirely everywhere, how can I do that? I have read from a few websites that I should  edit ~/.profile but I have almost no idea what that is
[21:02] <bmpr> so how can I make this entire folder available to all the terminals and other apps as well?
[21:02] <jhutchins_wk> qpoo: What are you running?  What are you using for a mail client?  Where is your mail located? Can you reach the mail sever with something other than the mail client (ping)?
[21:02] <EriC^^> bmpr: where are they located?
[21:02] <qpoo> I use thunderbird. I am checking if I can access mails otherwise
[21:02] <i20> makefile ?
[21:02] <jhutchins_wk> bmpr: You can put the files in a location that is on the standard path, or you can add their location to the path.
[21:02] <bmpr> EriC^^ : I have compiled the few executables in my Desktop/apps/cpml folder
[21:03] <wileee> qpoo, Are you setting up thunderbird or it does not work when it had?
[21:03] <bmpr> jhutchins_wk
[21:03] <bmpr> I thought  I could do that but apparently they need to be there cause they have to access some of the folders nearby
[21:04] <SuperLag> Anyone successfully got a connection made to a PPTP VPN, from Ubuntu?
[21:04] <EriC^^> bmpr: ok, type nano ~/.profile , and add at the end PATH="$PATH:$HOME/Desktop/apps/cpml"
[21:04] <qpoo> wileee, the latter case
[21:04] <SuperLag> Is it doable, or does it require mucho voodoo?
[21:04] <bmpr> EriC^^ :  you sure that wouldn't do any damage?
[21:04] <EriC^^> bmpr: quite certain, yes
[21:04] <jhutchins_wk> SuperLag: Yes, not even very hard.
[21:04] <bmpr> ok thanks
[21:04] <SuperLag> wileee: yo! my 12.04.5 -> 14.04.2 upgrade? The end users report all is well, and everything works.
[21:05] <wileee> qpoo, Good so that is key info here, any info as others suggest a cause and effect is important.
[21:05] <wileee> SuperLag, I forget the issue but great. ;)
[21:05] <EriC^^> bmpr: np
[21:06] <qpoo> wileee, the mail server may be having a problem
[21:06] <wileee> SuperLag, I remember now, heh, goog job.
[21:07] <wileee> good*
[21:07] <qpoo> I cannot access them in any other way
[21:07] <qpoo> either
[21:07] <qpoo> or I am horribly hacked
[21:07] <wileee> qpoo, Which mail server, this standard email accounts?
[21:07] <qpoo> wileee, yes
[21:09] <wileee> qpoo, Not exactly sure, maybe others will.
[21:12] <qpoo> strange, though..strange things in the night..exchanging traces..strange things in the night..what were the chances..
[21:12] <jhutchins_wk> !pptp
[21:13] <jhutchins_wk> qpoo: Is the server a public, commercial sever, or a private server?
[21:14] <qpoo> <jhutchins_wk, wileee  it was just onfirmed that the interruption was caused by a temporary failure
[21:14] <qpoo> confirmed*
[21:14] <wileee> qpoo, so now what?
[21:15] <qpoo> It should be working again in a little while. so waiting
[21:15] <bmpr> EriC^ : you still there?
[21:15] <jhutchins_wk> qpoo: That's always the first thing to suspect.
[21:16] <jhutchins_wk> qpoo: There are tools you can use to track it down for certain.
[21:16] <qpoo> <jhutchins_wk, oh really, could you tell me more about it?
[21:16] <i20> does anybody know about freeglut prog ?
[21:16] <bmpr> it worked my man
[21:16] <bmpr> thanks EriC^
[21:17] <jhutchins_wk> qpoo: You check DNS resolution, you try ping, you can use telnet to connect to the mail ports and see how they respond.
[21:17] <jhutchins_wk> qpoo: The other way that can happen is if something is blocking the mail port - your ISP, their ISP.
[21:19] <qpoo> jhutchins_wk, I will need to learn more about how to do them..thank you very much!
[21:19] <qpoo> wileee, thank you, too :)
[21:20] <wileee> qpoo, Ah good, carry on .;)
[21:21] <moses_> whats a good pdf reader/editor in ubuntu?
[21:24] <wileee> moses_, There is a handful however limited by the code that may be there.
[21:28] <edupt> hello! I am using a hub usb, and I want to know what serial port is connect a oximeter in the hub usb.  I am using a hub usb, and I want to know what serial port is connect a oximeter in the hub usb. Can someone help me? I am using ubuntu 12.04.
[21:51] <Razva> hey. I'm trying to execute a cron that'll run this: https://github.com/Razva/newbadmin/blob/master/email/exim-flush-cron.sh . for reasons I cannot understand...when I run the file directly from console, it works. when I run it from cron...it doesn't. any tips?
[21:52] <jhutchins_wk> edupt: Try sudo lsusb
[21:52] <edupt> thanks very much
[21:52] <jhutchins_wk> edupt: If the meter emulates the serial port, it will most likely be ttyUSB0
[21:52] <jhutchins_wk> deweydb_: If you're using a multi-port serial emulator, or have other serial USB devices, it could be something else.
[21:53] <jhutchins_wk> deweydb_: How did you get in my tab complete?
[21:54] <John[Lisbeth]> Is there a command in apt that will let me install a file and it's dependencies into a folder instead of intead of installig it in the main filesystem?
[21:54] <John[Lisbeth]> sort of like apt-get build-dep
[21:54] <jhutchins_wk> !pt
[21:54] <jhutchins_wk> edupt: You are welcome here as well.
[21:55] <reisio> John[Lisbeth]: what for
[21:55] <John[Lisbeth]> I want to create a chroot jail that only has that program available
[21:56] <John[Lisbeth]> So I want to apt the files into an empty folder, or an empty directory tree.
[21:58] <mjbrancato> John[Lisbeth] Don't mean to but in, but you can apt files from a site in replace of wget?
[21:58] <mjbrancato> *butt
[22:00] <John[Lisbeth]> How would I do that?
[22:04] <mjbrancato> John[Lisbeth] no, i thought you were saying you could do that. if your trying to download files through Terminal just do    wget <url>   so an example to download ubuntu image is      wget http://www.sysadminslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/ubuntu-boot-loading-screen-300x225.jpg
[22:06] <mailserver> can someone help me set up a mail server with postfix that sends emails from users on a local network
[22:07] <teward> mailserver: #ubuntu-server probably would be better, but keep in mind that this shouldn't be on a residential connection - that will likely get 'blocked' by most mail companies
[22:07] <mailserver> it wont be
[22:08] <mailserver> thanks for the chat channel
[22:12] <HamRadio> Hey guys, I got a little mystery for you
[22:13] <HamRadio> On a laptop that I am putting Ubuntu on, pressing a letter also activates another key
[22:13] <HamRadio> like I press a, it also activates 0 on the number pad
[22:14] <HamRadio> pressing d also presses the enter button, and pressing the space bar also activates page down
[22:14] <HamRadio> any ideas?
[22:16] <teward> HamRadio: is numlock on?
[22:16] <teward> HamRadio: some laptops have 'numpad' keys connected to the actual keyboard
[22:16] <HamRadio> teward, tried that, doens't matter if numlock is on or off
[22:17] <HamRadio> teward, like I said though, d activates enter and space activates page down
[22:17] <HamRadio> numlock shouldn't do that
[22:17] <HamRadio> those are just examples too
[22:17] <teward> i missed the 'page down' part
[22:17] <sjmikem> Hi, what's easiest way to grab a single frame from a .mp4 file ?
[22:17] <HamRadio> teward, oh, that's ok
[22:18] <HamRadio> sjmikem, take a screenshot
[22:18] <sjmikem> yech
[22:18] <sjmikem> figured as much
[22:20] <bazhang> sjmikem, do it with smplayer
[22:21] <bazhang> single frame advance screenshot etc
[22:21] <sjmikem> bazhang: thanks!
[22:22] <bazhang> sjmikem, single frame is the period key, capito; S to screenshot it iirc
[22:23] <bazhang> and capitol
[22:27] <OerHeks> Thank you, Utopic 14.10, you are EOL now ( 30 min ago) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2015-July/000198.html
[22:40] <Morit> Hey guys, I'm kind of a noob here and I was thinking of putting ubuntu on dual boot
[22:40] <ultragamecard> ok
[22:40] <Morit> I'm currently running W8.1
[22:41] <ultragamecard> win 8 is a pain to dual boot
[22:41] <Morit> Will installing ubuntu have any bad effect on battery life whatsoever ?
[22:41] <ultragamecard> I don't think so
[22:41] <Morit> Ok so it's risk-free to install it right ?
[22:42] <ultragamecard> I did it
[22:42] <ultragamecard> I had one problem
[22:42] <Morit> Oh I see
[22:42] <Popkornium18> Hey guys! I was wondering if there is a tool for viewing UFW-logs. I am using GoAccess for Apache logs and it is really useful. Is there something like that?
[22:42] <Morit> was it related to drivers and stuff ?
[22:42] <ultragamecard> idk
[22:43] <Morit> ultragamecard : what was that one problem ?
[22:43] <INEEDANSWERS> Ok so now im going crazy, i installed all kinds of linux distros on my laptop but all with same problem. My laptop wont shutdown, reboot or anything like that, it freezes on splash-screen and i have to force it with the power button, i Run ubuntu mate 15.04 right now
[22:43] <ultragamecard> no
[22:45] <Rochvellon> well if i want to remove some packages I get everytime http://paste.ubuntu.com/11927527/ but these packages are not installed
[22:46] <Morit> Do I have to manually install drivers if I want to dualboot ubuntu ??
[22:46] <BuzzardBuzz> INEEDANSWERS: i have your answers, first-> you are not crazy, second-> your issue with the power button could be a bios setting for ACPI version
[22:46] <ultragamecard_> after you dualboot
[22:46] <ultragamecard_> don't use avanced boot options in windows
[22:47] <Morit> ultragamecard_: I don't understand how's that ?
[22:48] <ultragamecard_> windows advanced boot options set windows as the bootloader
[22:48] <Morit> Okay do I desactivate that in the BIOS ?
[22:48] <INEEDANSWERS> Well is there a solution for it then? and how to i whisper ppl xD
[22:48] <ultragamecard_> no
[22:48] <ultragamecard_> not in the bios
[22:49] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | Morit
[22:49] <ultragamecard_> did this computer have win8 preinstalled?
[22:49] <ultragamecard_> bye
[22:49] <Morit> Yes it did
[22:49] <Morit> Is that a problem
[22:49] <Morit> also thanks ubottu Bashing-om
[22:50] <Morit> and it's an SSD
[22:50] <Morit> is that also a problem ?
[22:50] <Bashing-om> Morit: Generally, the only problem is with bleeding edge new hardware ( WIFI, graphics drivers ) .
[22:51] <Morit> Well my laptop is the XPS 13
[22:51] <userme> hello with windows you have samsung kies but on linux u dont. what can you use for linux
[22:52] <Morit> userme: AirDroid, it's pretty similar I think
[22:53] <INEEDANSWERS> Ok well so how do i solve the shutdown, reboot issue then? have to change something in bios? i tried different shit there to
[22:53] <userme> airdroid
[22:54] <w30> userme, doesn't keis open by using a browser on computer? browser is same for Linux or winders
[22:54] <userme> its a download of samsung site
[22:54] <Bashing-om> Morit: SSDs generally are not a problem, unless Windows uses the SSD for fast boot -> Intel Smart Response .
[22:55] <Morit> I think it does
[22:55] <Morit> One sec i'll check
[22:56] <xangua> what this samsung kied does userme ¿
[22:56] <userme> for smartphones
[22:56] <xangua> so....what does it do?
[22:57] <w30> userme, if I remember right keis tells you to point your browser at ip and port of the phone
[22:57] <me> ciao
[22:58] <userme> u must have used kies before
[23:00] <Morit> lol, apparently the sound is broken if I try to dualboot my XPS 13
[23:00] <Morit> so I guess I'll have to stay with W8.1 :(
[23:00] <Morit> until it becomes stable
[23:01] <w30> android file managers can supply smb, ftp, protocols to send files to any computer with those clients
[23:01] <xangua> userme: You must not asume everyone has used the same tools as you
[23:01] <lone_wolf> hm
[23:01] <userme> u have to d/l kies to windows or mac and link smartphone to pc with usb or wifi
[23:01] <w30> userme, depends on which file manager you find on the app store
[23:01] <userme> some have i phones and use itunes
[23:02] <userme> airdroid from there site wont d/l to linux
[23:03] <xangua> userme: as you were told already, you can try Airdroid, aviable for any android device and any OS
[23:03] <w30> iphone is in the Mac egosystem and harder to go outside it
[23:03] <userme> i am
[23:03] <xangua> you don't download airdroid to linux, you just open your prefered browser userme
[23:08] <Morit> AirdDroid is the best solution, you don't download anything
[23:08] <Morit> it's all on the browser
[23:08] <OerHeks> living in a browser
[23:09] <Rochvellon> well if i want to remove some packages I get everytime http://paste.ubuntu.com/11927527/ but these packages are not installed
[23:10] <ultragamecard> I have a problem with flash on ubuntu
[23:11] <ultragamecard> the web browser says I have flash installed
[23:11] <userme> airdroid web
[23:11] <ultragamecard> but when I type "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin"
[23:12] <Bashing-om> Rochvellon: Have you tried to install the packages ? What results ' sudo apt-get install libpolkit-qt-1-1 ' ?
[23:12] <ultragamecard> it says not installed
[23:12] <xangua> ultragamecard: there is no "flashplugin" package
[23:12] <xangua> !info flashplugin-installer | ultragamecard also what browser¿
[23:12] <ultragamecard> what is it called?
[23:13] <ultragamecard> firefox
[23:13] <ultragamecard> let me try that
[23:13] <Rochvellon> Bashing-om: it's normaly installing
[23:14] <Rochvellon> and purging it is working
[23:14] <Bashing-om> Rochvellon: If that completes, try to install the other depencency " libkhtml5 " .
[23:15] <OerHeks> Rochvellon, did you update first, before installing?
[23:17] <Rochvellon> OerHeks: yes, i'd updatet that system
[23:20] <userme> got airdroid web and airdroid on phone works a treat
[23:21] <|aaron> just installed a new video card (amd firepro w7000) and its working, except when i try to switch to a console (ctrl+alt+f1, etc) my monitors just go into power saving mode and wont even come back with ctrl+alt+f7. i tried adding GRUB_TERMINAL=console to my grub config but that doesnt help. anyone know what my problem is?
[23:21] <squibby0> is any one booting ubuntu 14.04 on a macbook retina?  I can't seem to lower the screen resolution down, the screen stays stuck in black even though I'm pretty sure I chose the correct native resolution.
[23:21] <|aaron> using fglrx-updates drivers
[23:21] <squibby0> any ideas where I could look to troubleshoot this?  sorry about the herp derp question.
[23:24] <squibby0> .
[23:27] <OerHeks> squibby0, System Settings --> Display --> Scale for menu and title bars: 1.75 ?
[23:27] <squibby0> OerHeks, I've used that option and it works for the most part but I'm finding that I keep having to adjust the size for other applications such as firefox
[23:28] <squibby0> so it seemed like it might be easier just to set the right resolution in the first place.
[23:29] <en1gma> im on 14.04 and i just finished building a 3.14.5 kernel from source for x86_64 and everything went well but i need to do a format and i dont want to have to build it again
[23:29] <en1gma> what do i need to save in the /kernel 3.14.5 sources directory
[23:30] <en1gma> where i built
[23:30] <en1gma> i know about bzimage
[23:30] <Rochvellon> Bashing-om: all packages are installed but i get the same error
[23:31] <en1gma> thats at location "/home/en1gma/linux-3.14.5/arch/x86_64/boot/bzimage"
[23:31] <en1gma> isnt there headers or something i need to save besides that? maybe the config file?
[23:33] <Bashing-om> Rochvellon: ' sudo apt-get -f install ' any errors paste them, please .
[23:34] <Rochvellon> Bashing-om: no errors and no packages to install
[23:36] <andrewjs18> hi all, has anyone ever ran across this error when trying to copy an ssh key from 1 server to another?
[23:36] <andrewjs18> Bad port 'umask 077; test -d ~/.ssh || mkdir ~/.ssh ; cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys && (test -x /sbin/restorecon && /sbin/restorecon ~/.ssh ~/.ssh/authorized_keys >/dev/null 2>&1 || true)'
[23:38] <andrewjs18> command I was running: me@me ~ $ ssh-copy-id -p 1010<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:38] <Bashing-om> Rochvellon: Did you also install libkhtml5 ? Also what results for install status ' dpkg -l kde-runtime ' ?
[23:41] <lasers> andrewjs18: I googled. Try: ssh-copy-id "me@192 -p 1010"
[23:41] <Rochvellon> it's strange. if i want to install it it says it is installed, but with dpkg -l kde-runtime it says it is not installed
[23:41] <andrewjs18> lasers, I'll give it a try
[23:41] <andrewjs18> 1min
[23:42] <en1gma> how can i make a kernel.deb backup of my current headers and kernel
[23:42] <en1gma> im on ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[23:42] <Bashing-om> Rochvellon: ' apt-cache policy kde-runtime ' . More than 1 instance installed ?
[23:42] <en1gma> i had to do a kernel patch and want to save it so i can install it again after i format. dont want to build 30GB again for nothing
[23:43] <HulkH> hello what's the name of the channel for Ubuntu OS for smartphones?
[23:43] <reisio> -touch maybe
[23:43] <Rochvellon> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11927849/
[23:47] <Bashing-om> Rochvellon: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/11927849/ .
[23:50] <Bashing-om> Rochvellon: I see that "kde-runtime" is not installed. Try " sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-runtime " .
[23:52] <redfelt> Hello. :) I have a question about "Use as hotspot," hoping someone can help. It seems whenever I use this feature, my Ubuntu always creates an Ad-Hoc network (computer-to-computer) even though I selet "Infrastructure" from the drop-down menu.
[23:53] <redfelt> I've double-checked that my wifi card supports "AP" mode using `iw list` and indeed, it does. Any other reason why I'm only getting ad-hoc networks and not able to share my wired ethernet to wifi?
[23:54] <redfelt> (This is a new install of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on an old but functional laptop, the wifi cards in it work fine, just having trouble creating a hotspot.)
[23:54] <t0ke> Installing any package (apache2 for example) brings up 'cannot find package', but it seems to do it fine as 'su -'. Any ideas?
[23:54] <t0ke> I've tried apt-get update
[23:55] <redfelt> t0ke, maybe this is silly but check the read permissions for your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[23:55] <lasers> andrewjs18: Did you die ??
[23:55] <andrewjs18> lasers, sorry, no
[23:55] <andrewjs18> lol
[23:55] <andrewjs18> forgot to reply
[23:55] <lasers> andrewjs18: It worked perfectly? :o
[23:55] <andrewjs18> I need to adjust some server configs..my other server seems to be blocking it
[23:56] <Bashing-om> t0ke: "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get install <package> ' ?
[23:58] <andrewjs18> gotta run, bbl
[23:58] <t0ke> redfelt, yeah everything looks good in there