[02:32] <spiggott> name: update-rc.d does essentially the same thing in debian and ubuntu
[02:32] <LameBMX> timo901, id get used to the \[space]  technique .. cuz it works with everything lol
[02:32] <name> ohh
[02:33] <name> good to know dude
[02:33] <spiggott> I've always thought it was stupid that it ends in .d -- that to me always implies a directory
[02:33] <timo901> LameBMX: it didnt work for me
[02:33] <ernz> lufis: Hey, y'know what? Mounting network locations is not a bad idea at all. Now I can just set up nautilus launchers in my panel to all my Movies, Music, Documents and Share locations on various computers. Not bad at all....
[02:33] <LameBMX> thats really odd
[02:33] <timo901> cd "/media/window/Program Files/" works fo me
[02:33] <lufis> ernz: :)
[02:33] <name> but
[02:34] <ernz> 1 thing though... does ANYONE know how I can edit something called my "fstab" to add a mount option
[02:34] <name> if i add it to the startup will it be auto added to the shutdown/
[02:34] <spiggott> vi /etc/fstab
[02:34] <spiggott> as root
[02:34] <wastrel> !fstab
[02:34] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:34] <name> ernz: sudo [editor]  /etc/fstab
[02:34] <welly> ok.. looks like this upgrade has completed.. how can i check the distro version?
[02:34] <spiggott> substitute your favorite editor for "vi"
[02:34] <Hugh> or sudi gedit /etc/fstab
[02:34] <Hugh> *sudo
[02:34] <name> 53%
[02:34] <Hugh> sudo gedit /etc/fstab/ ;)
[02:34] <name> gonna fall asleep
[02:35] <PoLL> hello, i have lil question: i have a movie server running in the basement and id like to watch the movies over the network ... samba is up and running & a can acces all the files via nautilus, but mplayer vls and co can't play them
[02:35] <Hugh> sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[02:35] <SilentDis> PoLL, do you get an error when you open the file?
[02:35] <PoLL> yes
[02:35] <name> PoLL: codec?
[02:35] <wastrel> hi
[02:35] <Hugh> that is a really good substitute for rc-update
[02:35] <Hugh> sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[02:35] <cybercod> !nvidia
[02:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:35] <LameBMX> if i got a p4 desktop .. do i really need powernowd?
[02:36] <PoLL> i installed all the codecs
[02:36] <name> maybe it's a win only cod
[02:36] <SilentDis> PoLL, what is the error?
[02:36] <PoLL> no its avi
[02:36] <ernz> thanks spiggott/name: I am told here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311633&highlight=could+-read+from+resource >> to add the mount command  "sudo mount -t smbfs //aPC/toShare /media/theShare"
[02:36] <name> loool
[02:36] <name> avi
[02:36] <name> there are many "sorts" of avi
[02:36] <PoLL> xvid
[02:36] <name> better
[02:36] <name> and error
[02:36] <ernz> spiggott/name: Do I add the entire lot, or .. what?
[02:37] <PoLL> can't read from smb:// .....
[02:37] <name> exact error?
[02:37] <name> paste it
[02:37] <SilentDis> !enter | PoLL
[02:37] <ubotu> PoLL: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:37] <name> but i g2g soon
[02:37] <arrenlex> PoLL: I don't believe mplayer can read smb shares using the smb:// protocol. Mount the device.
[02:37] <kurisutofuaa> I am having problems getting my iPod to mount for me it is a U2 B&W click wheel (and yes a have used to forums but they didn't work)... It anyone would help me I would be great-full for the help.
[02:37] <name> plz stop that botting, it annoys me ^^
[02:37] <SilentDis> PoLL, can you give us the EXACT error you're getting, on one line?
[02:37] <timo901> Wellcome to the ubuntu help Desk !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:37] <PoLL> arrenlex: yes thats an idea
[02:38] <spiggott> enrz, that's how you mount it manually form the command prompt
[02:38] <DarkLegacy> Hey guys
[02:38] <name> you are nearly as bitchy as the reputation of the #debian.de guys
[02:38] <spiggott> what you enter in the file is a little different
[02:38] <DarkLegacy> I've got an application I want to install that's in RPM form
[02:38] <SilentDis> !language | name
[02:38] <ubotu> name: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:38] <DarkLegacy> How can I install a .rpm?
[02:38] <ernz> PoLL: We are totally having the same problem here! There is a solution to this bug at this web page: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311633&highlight=could+-read+from+resource
[02:38] <name> meee
[02:38] <SilentDis> !alien | DarkLegacy
[02:38] <ubotu> DarkLegacy: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:38] <name> can't stand that bot
[02:38] <arrenlex> name: #ubuntu? Really? From what I've seen on #debian they are total jerks. At least you can ASK things here.
[02:39] <PoLL> ernz: thx 4 the link
[02:39] <DarkLegacy> Ok, well how about the application in a .tar .gz
[02:39] <ernz> spiggott: Different how so?
[02:39] <arrenlex> If your question doesn't include anything in hexadecimal on #debian you get laughed at.
[02:39] <name> arrenlex: talking about .de
[02:39] <spiggott> give me a second
[02:39] <kitche> name: the bot is there so we don't have to anwser the same questions over and over in the same day
[02:39] <DarkLegacy> How can I install something from a .tar.gz?
[02:39] <ernz> PoLL: No probs, gimme a shout if you get stuck, and sorting out the fine points of it now.
[02:39] <ernz> spiggott, sure./
[02:39] <SilentDis> arrenlex, eh, i don't consider anyone "total jerks" in any FOSS community... some groups simply have a higher expectation of user knowledge ;)
[02:39] <name> kitche: but im annoyed of the enter, language etc things  ^^
[02:39] <Kingsqueak> DarkLegacy: what are you trying to install specifically?
[02:39] <spiggott> ernz, there is a commented line at the top of /etc/fstab that tells you what order to put things in
[02:39] <DarkLegacy> VMWare Tools
[02:39] <PoLL> SilentDis: this was the error gnome gave me, but i think ernz got the right link 4 me
[02:39] <spiggott> separated by spaces
[02:39] <kitche> DarkLegacy: tar -xvzf <file>.tar.gz it's mostly likely source code that you have to compile
[02:39] <name> I just said bitchy and bang bot's spamming again
[02:40] <name> it wastes more lines than my "enters"
[02:40] <DarkLegacy> I successfully installed Ubuntu and everything I wanted so far on it except for the VMWare Tools which are in a .tar.gz
[02:40] <DarkLegacy> Everything else comes in a .deb and is self-installing
[02:40] <SilentDis> PoLL, great, so long as someone was able to help you :)
[02:40] <ernz> spiggott: I don't know what all that stuff means, sorry :)
[02:40] <nolimitsoya> name, those are regular netiquette things. get used to it. its valid in every social situation
[02:40] <DarkLegacy> Cool, thanks Kitche
[02:41] <SilentDis> DarkLegacy, usually, a .tar.gz package has a make or install script bundled.  check if there's any README files in there, they'll explain it (each is different, there's no real 'standard')
[02:41] <timo901> i will now teach you how to cd into a directory , SO .... cd Desktop , You have now successfully cd onto the desktop :-D
[02:41] <nolimitsoya> name, may i also point out that the pupouse of keeping querys on one single line is to make things easy to follow, not simply keeping the number of posted lines to a minimum
[02:41] <ernz> spiggott: I am thick as hell, there was a link further down detailing the fine points: //servername/sharename /mountdirectory smbfs username=windowsuserename,password=windowspassword 0 0
[02:41] <spiggott> ernz: given your example, the line in /etc/fstab should read "//aPC/toShare /media/theShare smbfs rw 0 0"
[02:42] <spiggott> that's better
[02:42] <spiggott> I didn't have an example handy for smb logins
[02:42] <spiggott> that looks good, ernz
[02:42] <spiggott> (probably more appropriate than what I typed)
[02:42] <name> omg, anyway im out resetting computer, one last question, what FS would you suggest me, no NOT ext3, for gods sake not ext3
[02:42] <Headcrab> Finally - HL2DM server installing
[02:42] <ernz> Spiggott, apart from the login options, can I omit them?
[02:43] <name> im totally mad of ext3, it ruined my / partition
[02:43] <nolimitsoya> name, depends on your needs
[02:43] <SilentDis> name, what problems are you having with ext3?  seriously?  i've tried RiserFS, and while fast, a crash can sure ruin your day :P
[02:43] <name> it crashed
[02:43] <name> it ruined my /
[02:43] <name> I/O errors and stuff
[02:43] <spiggott> ernz, your smb server needs to know what you're logging in as, so I'd go with their example
[02:43] <name> and that happens the 2. time
[02:43] <ernz> spiggott: Double-LOL.... <i> Once again the username and password are only needed if the Windows share is set up to require them. </i>
[02:43] <nolimitsoya> name, i seriously doublt ext3 was at fault
[02:43] <name> what else, eh?
[02:44] <name> my /home is all right
[02:44] <nolimitsoya> name, user error or malfunctioning hardware
[02:44] <name> ext3 too
[02:44] <SilentDis> name, i'm in agreement with nolimitsoya on that one.  usually, it's something rather serious during the crash that writes goofy data to the drive
[02:44] <spiggott> leaving...
[02:44] <DarkLegacy> SilentDis, it's got an install script but how do I run it?
[02:44] <name> nolimitsoya: i can produce I/O's, cool!
[02:44] <Q_Continuum> Device Manager only shows 1 Processor, I'm running a dual-core system, and the Live CD (prior to install) registered 2 - what do I need to do to get the second CPU enabled?
[02:44] <name> the disk had a fault
[02:44] <name> but i fixed it and it doesn't complain
[02:44] <arrenlex> Q_Continuum: Install the -generic kernel, if you're on edgy.
[02:45] <name> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[02:45] <arrenlex> Q_Continuum: I also remember talking to you about -generic before. :)
[02:45] <SilentDis> DarkLegacy, the readme file should have info... but after it's unpacked, usually it's something like going into the directory you unpacked it into, then sh ./make install or some such, as I said, the readme will tell you what to type :)
[02:45] <doviende> Q_Continuum: uname -a     does it say SMP right before the date?
[02:45] <nolimitsoya> name, you obviously didnt, and may i remind you of the !enter thing ;)
[02:45] <Q_Continuum> doviende, it does not
[02:45] <Q_Continuum> I ran with the default kernel
[02:45] <name> *holding back aggression* :P they damn fs made me damn angry :)
[02:46] <doviende> Q_Continuum: then that's a problem.  you need a different kernel with SMP enabled
[02:46] <arrenlex> doviende: What does that show, exactly? I run a system with only one processor, with a kernel that does not have smp support, and I have SMP there.
[02:46] <name> oh sorry, !language
[02:46] <arrenlex> Q_Continuum: apt-get install linux-kernel-generic
[02:46] <doviende> arrenlex: if you have "SMP" in the uname part, then the kernel you're running has SMP support
[02:46] <ernz> Hey PoLL, If you are also looking to have this network location permanently available, have a look'see at this page: http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Filesystems/Mounting_smbfs_Shares_Permanently.html >>> There is a section a little ways down about adding a line to your fstab file, this will mount the locations on boot, and from what I read the login fields are not necessary, depending on the config of your Winblows shares. - Hope this helps, credit to spiggott a
[02:46] <ernz> nd name for assistance.
[02:46] <DarkLegacy> It's a .pl
[02:46] <DarkLegacy> A perl script I think
[02:47] <DarkLegacy> It just tells me to "run it from terminal or a X session as a super user"
[02:47] <kurisutofuaa> I am having problems getting my iPod to mount for me it is a U2 B&W click wheel (and yes a have used to forums but they didn't work)... It anyone would help me I would be great-full for the help.
[02:47] <SilentDis> name, you seem rather upset at all this.  we're here to help, no need to take out your aggressions on the channel/people/rules here.  I sincerely doubt that a problem on the disk could be attributed to ext3, it's just about the most stable FS for linux out there right now.  If you really want to, you can jump back to ext2 and loose journalizing though
[02:47] <michaelpo> how to setup thunderbird so that when reply there will not be a > at the beginning of every line?
[02:47] <webmaren> part
[02:47] <Q_Continuum> arrenlex, generic *is* installed; I haven't installed anything else.
[02:47] <arrenlex> Q_Continuum: What's the output of uname -a
[02:47] <Q_Continuum> I ran the update, but didn't switch kernel versions/types
[02:47] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, what does 'uname -r' give you?
[02:48] <Davo_Dinkum> arrenlex: OK, X is still working fine with the new radeon driver
[02:48] <Q_Continuum> Linux FX60-hornet 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:48] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, the -generic kernel might not be the generic kernel, if that makes sense :P
[02:48] <doviende> Q_Continuum: ya, you're not currently running -generic then
[02:48] <arrenlex> Q_Continuum: You need to boot into the generic kernel. You're not running it right now.
[02:48] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, then you are not running the -generic kenrel :)
[02:48] <Q_Continuum> ....
[02:48] <Q_Continuum> alrighty
[02:49] <doviende> Q_Continuum: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[02:49] <doviende> Q_Continuum: does it say the generic one in there somewhere?
[02:49] <Q_Continuum> Yes
[02:49] <bds> doviende: As of Edgy are all kernels generic?
[02:49] <Q_Continuum> second and third entries, out of 3.
[02:49] <doviende> ok, so it's not set as the default in grub or something
[02:49] <doviende> bds: he's running a -386 kernel
[02:49] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, just do the 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic' and reboot
[02:49] <arrenlex> bds: -386 is available or emergencies.
[02:49] <DarkLegacy> Nvm
[02:49] <DarkLegacy> got it to work
[02:49] <DarkLegacy> ./ means "current directory"
[02:49] <andrew_> Anyone know of a good C programming app for ubuntu with a GUI interface
[02:50] <bds> ah
[02:50] <lufis> bds: i don't think so. i think it picks an optimized one
[02:50] <DarkLegacy> It was like "What executable?"
[02:50] <DarkLegacy> Lol
[02:50] <spliffy> hi. i have problem with files >2gb. i can't get them per ftp with nautilus, ftp cmdline client, ncftp. but my filesystem supports large files. i use ext3 and there's enough space left. does anyone have an idea what it could be?
[02:50] <doviende> nolimitsoya: except he has it installed already he says
[02:50] <andrew_> I'm really not into text base
[02:50] <nolimitsoya> doviende, oh, i missed that :)
[02:50] <DarkLegacy> Linux comes with free C tools I think
[02:50] <Q_Continuum> I installed off the CD, default kernel; ran the update and then installed the nvidia binary driver.
[02:50] <linuxnewbie756> what is the command to show the little gear things to test graphics?
[02:50] <SilentDis> andrew_, give me a moment to sift through something right quick, coulda swore I just saw a tool listed over on gnomefiles...
[02:50] <Q_Continuum> linuxnewbie756, glxgears
[02:50] <bds> !generic | me
[02:50] <ubotu> me: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[02:50] <doviende> Q_Continuum: run  update-grub
[02:50] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, yes, the depends for the nvidia-glx package are broken
[02:51] <andrew_> yes gcc but I'm looking for something like Qt but for C
[02:51] <linuxnewbie756> how do you tell how many fps?
[02:51] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, before you do anything else, you must install linux-restricted-modules-generic, or you wont be able to start x with the default kernel
[02:51] <arrenlex> linuxnewbie756: glxgears -printfps
[02:51] <doviende> nolimitsoya: oh, good call
[02:51] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, when thats done, you can just uninstall all the -386 or -686 kernels
[02:52] <linuxnewbie756> while its running, or after i run it?
[02:52] <spliffy> don't nautilus and wget support files >2gb by default on ununtu?
[02:52] <Nrbelex> How do I make it so a Kannel server launches on startup
[02:52] <Q_Continuum> linux-restricted-modules-generic installed; required for the nvidia drivers
[02:53] <nolimitsoya> spliffy, they should, but older versions does not have >2gb support.
[02:53] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, then you should be fine
[02:53] <arrenlex> linuxnewbie756: Use that command to run the gears so that they print fps.
[02:53] <Q_Continuum> ran grub-update; should I simply attempt a reboot into the generic kernel?
[02:53] <doviende> Q_Continuum: ya, give it a shot
[02:53] <DarkLegacy> Quick question
[02:53] <Q_Continuum> (and will that break the nvidia driver?)
[02:53] <DarkLegacy> Why doesn't the Ubuntu log in screen go with the selected theme?
[02:54] <DarkLegacy> Like if I chose a blue theme, the login stays brown
[02:54] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, no it shouldnt. before you reboot, you could remove the kernels you dont want :)
[02:54] <doviende> if nvidia drivers require linux-restricted-modules-generic then it should work with the -generic kernel
[02:54] <DarkLegacy> Is there like a "login_use_theme == 1" somewhere?
[02:54] <linuxnewbie756> 573, that seem too many, i am using onboard graphics, how many do people with 256MB cards get?
[02:54] <Nrbelex> How do I make it so a Kannel server launches on startup?
[02:54] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, its usualy no problem to remove even the running kernel, since youll be rebooting anyway :)
[02:54] <Q_Continuum> DarkLegacy: System->Preferences->Login WIndow
[02:54] <doviende> Q_Continuum: no, don't remove any kernels yet
[02:54] <DarkLegacy> thx
[02:54] <doviende> wait til you know it works
[02:54] <kaoz> hello ubuntu
[02:54] <SilentDis> andrew_, it must have slipped off the end of my feeds.  check out gnomefiles.com to see if there's anything there that suits your needs.  very nice updated GTK software listing site :)
[02:54] <doviende> keep the working setup ;)
[02:54] <andrew_> thanks man
[02:55] <kaoz> can someone please help me with some modem problems i am having?
[02:55] <nolimitsoya> doviende, wheres your sense of danger? :/
[02:55] <SilentDis> andrew_, er, gnomefiles.org, sorry
[02:55] <doviende> always keep spare working kernels around, just in case ;)
[02:55] <Q_Continuum> I wasn't planning on removing anything.  I simply want smp, and the nvidia drivers, on the same boot.  (dual monitors)
[02:55] <doviende> nolimitsoya: haha.  it's very active ;)
[02:55] <Q_Continuum> rebooting; will select the generic kernel...
[02:55] <kaoz> anyone know anything about programming.... compiling or pctel modems?
[02:56] <nolimitsoya> !anyone | kaoz
[02:56] <ubotu> kaoz: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:56] <Bakefy> what is the key stroke to see hidden files?
[02:56] <SilentDis> i seem to remember seeing a 'step by step' of setting up tor for ubuntu edgy....  might anyone have the link for that here?
[02:56] <nolimitsoya> Bakefy, ctrl+h
[02:56] <nolimitsoya> at least it is in thunar...
[02:56] <Flannel> Bakefy: ls -a
[02:56] <SilentDis> nolimitsoya, same in nautilus. :)
[02:56] <kaoz> for some reason my makefile for compiling my drivers is giving me errors and the module wont load... any ideas
[02:57] <nolimitsoya> SilentDis, i thought so, but i wasnt sure :)
[02:57] <Bakefy> nolimitsoya:  I am having trouble seeing directories that I create from my windows machine on my Samba shared folders
[02:57] <arrenlex> !doesn't work | kaoz
[02:57] <ubotu> kaoz: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[02:57] <nolimitsoya> !build | kaoz
[02:57] <ubotu> kaoz: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:57] <SilentDis> kaoz:  what errors?
[02:57] <Rupie> If I want to write a driver for a printer, where would I start?
[02:57] <kaoz> the only deps the readme and howtos say i need is build-essential and headers
[02:57] <danny> guys I just want to know if theres a better client BT client availaible than Azureus in ubuntu ?
[02:57] <arrenlex> Q_Continuum: WB
[02:57] <Q_Continuum> Sweet, that did the trick.  Now, I forget the easiest way to change grub default.
[02:57] <nolimitsoya> danny, torrent through wine
[02:57] <Flannel> danny: the built in one.  But, really "better" is a matter of personal opinion
[02:58] <kaoz> i have BE and headers installed....... then it just says to run ./setup
[02:58] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, the easies way it to remove the kernels you dont want :P
[02:58] <Flannel> Q_Continuum: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the "default" number
[02:58] <kaoz> did that then it finds modm and errors out
[02:58] <Q_Continuum> Then my second question, and I always forget, non-X session resolutions - what's the kb page on that?
[02:58] <danny> and utorrent really works trough wine ?
[02:58] <danny> without any bug ?
[02:58] <Bakefy> danny, it works for me
[02:58] <SilentDis> kaoz, you'll need to tell me what error you got.  I MIGHT have a solution then ;)
[02:58] <linuxnewbie756> i have on of them nifty microsoft wireless keyboards, and was wondering if i could get the media keys to work
[02:58] <nolimitsoya> danny, well, i get some bugs related to minimizing with the button instead of clicking the icon, but fine otherwize :)
[02:59] <danny> the speed is great ?
[02:59] <dan2> .j #c++
[02:59] <danny> and what about bitcomet ?
[02:59] <SilentDis> linuxnewbie756, now that I saw recently.  *goes off to dig through gnomefiles*
[02:59] <Flannel> !shortcuts | linuxnewbie756
[02:59] <ubotu> linuxnewbie756: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[02:59] <Flannel> linuxnewbie756: there's also a wiki page, although I don't have it handy
[02:59] <DarkLegacy> Hm
[02:59] <kaoz> silent can i PM u the error so i dont spam?
[02:59] <Q_Continuum> How do I set Terminal resolution (when running in a non-X-based session)?
[02:59] <DarkLegacy> I tried to install xchat but it failed some dependency
[02:59] <SilentDis> linuxnewbie756, check out a program called keytouch as well.  might be what you are looking for.
[03:00] <SilentDis> !paste | kaoz
[03:00] <ubotu> kaoz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:00] <danny> okey thanx all
[03:00] <DarkLegacy> libdbus-1-2
[03:00] <n2diy_> How can I run my basic programmes with linux?
[03:00] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, id like to know as well. highlight me if you find out, please? :)
[03:00] <SilentDis> n2diy_, what program are you trying to run?
[03:01] <FreshPrince> n2diy_, what programm?
[03:01] <Q_Continuum> nolimitsoya, will do
[03:01] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, thanks :)
[03:01] <DarkLegacy> How can I get xchat to work on Ubuntu?
[03:01] <nolimitsoya> DarkLegacy, sudo apt-get ?
[03:01] <tonyyarusso> DarkLegacy: Install it with synaptic
[03:01] <kaoz> silent i posted on paste
[03:01] <FreshPrince> DarkLegacy, just install it with apt-get :)
[03:01] <Flannel> DarkLegacy: just install it through the repositories, xchat-gnome is in main, xchat is in universe
[03:01] <n2diy_> All, I just want to run my old Qbasic stuff, nothings specific.
[03:01] <kaoz> under the name kaoz
[03:01] <tonyyarusso> !software | DarkLegacy
[03:01] <ubotu> DarkLegacy: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[03:01] <nolimitsoya> kaoz, paste the link
[03:02] <kaoz> posted contents of make.log and of error i get
[03:02] <DarkLegacy> Great thankd
[03:02] <DarkLegacy> Thank you
[03:02] <FreshPrince> n2diy_, then jsut type it in the term
[03:02] <linuxnewbie756> where can i find the xine nonfree codecs?
[03:02] <kaoz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/185/
[03:02] <nolimitsoya> !codecs | linuxnewbie756
[03:02] <ubotu> linuxnewbie756: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:02] <name> ode
[03:02] <Bakefy> anyone know why my linux does not see all of the files in a directory? I know there are more because my windows sees them all
[03:02] <Bakefy> I have a samba shareing my linux directory
[03:03] <Flannel> n2diy_: there's a few BASIC interpreters in the repositories.  I haven't used any of them much, and thusly have no suggestions.  Search for them, try them until you get one that works ;)  They should have hardly any dependencies, so removing later shouldn't leave any shrapnel
[03:03] <n2diy_> FreshPrince:  I'd rather not re-enter it, will it work if copy it?
[03:03] <SilentDis> kaoz, do a less <name of makefile>.  i'm gonna bet that first line reads #!/bin/sh, doesn't in ;)
[03:03] <nolimitsoya> Bakefy, anything beginning with a . is a hidden file in linux
[03:03] <danny> and to download mp3s, the best p2p client, besides Bit torrent protocal ? what is it ?
[03:03] <kaoz> what do u mean do a less? im not that good at linux yet hehe
[03:03] <nolimitsoya> Bakefy, to see them, use ctrl+h for nautilus and thunar :)
[03:03] <n2diy_> Flannel: roger that.
[03:03] <nolimitsoya> probably konki as well...
[03:03] <Bakefy> it doesnt even show under hidden
[03:03] <danny> is Frostwire any good ?
[03:03] <SilentDis> kaoz, less is the name of a program.  type "less <name of makefile>", without the quotes :)
[03:04] <klees> my custom linux-2.6.19 folder has over 460M in size...  how can i see which files are taking the most space??
[03:04] <nolimitsoya> Bakefy, what sort of files are they?
[03:04] <linuxnewbie756> those are all for gstreamer, i want xine codecs
[03:04] <Bakefy> directories
[03:04] <nolimitsoya> Bakefy, elaborate please
[03:04] <arrenlex> klees: du | sort
[03:04] <Bakefy> i created them in windows.  they are not showing on linux (visually)
[03:05] <nolimitsoya> Bakefy, can you navigate them through the terminal; did you refresh the filemanager?
[03:05] <kaoz> ok i did a less likle u said and i just got what looks like the output of the make.log
[03:05] <name> hello again
[03:05] <name> from the live cd ;)
[03:05] <Bakefy> HA!
[03:05] <Bakefy> refresh worked
[03:05] <SilentDis> kaoz, ok, what does the first line say?
[03:05] <klees> arrenlex: that didn't do it
[03:05] <danny> ohhh and guys to manage my wirelles connection, im on a laptop, the best is it wifi-radar ?
[03:06] <Bakefy> my bad
[03:06] <arrenlex> klees: du | sort -g
[03:06] <DarkLegacy_> Hah
[03:06] <dabaR> !nm-applet
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm-applet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <DarkLegacy> Synpatic worked
[03:06] <DarkLegacy> Thank you very much guys, I'm on Ubuntu now with Xchat :)
[03:07] <kaoz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/186/
[03:07] <dabaR> !networkmanager > danny
[03:07] <klees> arrenlex: i think that worked thanks
[03:07] <arrenlex> klees: yw
[03:07] <kaoz> ok i posted what less make.log says there
[03:07] <kaoz> its at the bottom
[03:07] <oldab> hi
[03:07] <danny> !networkmanager
[03:07] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[03:07] <oldab> i just installed 6.10
[03:08] <tlanfer> why am i not allowed to run an xserver as a normal user in ubuntu?
[03:08] <majortom> what package are iwconfig and iwlist in? or are they in one package?
[03:08] <SilentDis> kaoz, oops, wrong file.  i assume the file you're running to get that error is called "make", right?
[03:08] <oldab> after setting up my printer, it doesn't print
[03:08] <arrenlex> tlanfer: You are.
[03:08] <kaoz> oh haha
[03:08] <n2diy_> OK, how do I program and display "Hello World" with a fresh Ubuntu install?
[03:08] <kaoz> i thought u wanted the less of the error log...my bad
[03:08] <dabaR> find iwconfig
[03:08] <arrenlex> n2diy_: In what language?
[03:08] <kaoz> the name of the file in my src dir is makefile
[03:08] <SilentDis> kaoz, the command you want to run is "less make", so we can read it :)
[03:08] <dabaR> !find iwconfig
[03:08] <ubotu> File iwconfig found in wireless-tools, zsh-beta
[03:09] <majortom> thanks dabar
[03:09] <dabaR> !find iwlist
[03:09] <tlanfer> arrenlex: when i run "startx" i get "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting"
[03:09] <SilentDis> kaoz, ok, then it'll be "less makefile" (without quotes, of course)
[03:09] <ubotu> File iwlist found in wireless-tools
[03:09] <majortom> thanks again dabar
[03:09] <SilentDis> kaoz, and I only need the first line of text :)
[03:09] <majortom> exit
[03:09] <majortom> grrr
[03:09] <n2diy_> arrenlex: I don't care, as long as it works out of they box.
[03:10] <arrenlex> n2diy_: echo "Hello world".
[03:10] <arrenlex> :)
[03:10] <BHSPitMonkey> My resolution (both in gdm and after login) is stuck at 640x480. My xorg.conf is set correctly, and in System>Prefs>Screen Res., it only offers 640x480.
[03:10] <tim167> n2diy: python; print 'Hello World'
[03:10] <BHSPitMonkey> :S
[03:10] <linuxnewbie756> how do i get xine nonfree codecs for amarok? what is the best way to get codecs for amarok?
[03:10] <arrenlex> !fixres | BHSPitMonkey
[03:10] <ubotu> BHSPitMonkey: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:11] <n2diy_> arrenlex: That isn't a program, woulld that work from a Bash file?
[03:11] <dabaR> kaoz: and you have `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386'
[03:11] <kaoz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/187/
[03:11] <kaoz> ok there is less Makefile
[03:11] <arrenlex> n2diy_: Yes. A shell script.
[03:11] <arrenlex> n2diy_: That would look like this:
[03:11] <arrenlex> #!/bin/sh
[03:11] <arrenlex> echo "Hello world"
[03:11] <kaoz> yes i have build essentials and the linux headers
[03:11] <arrenlex> n2diy_: That file would be executable just like a program.
[03:11] <tlanfer> arrenlex: do i have to change something first to allow an user to run an own X server without using sudo?
[03:11] <arrenlex> n2diy_: ./file
[03:12] <arrenlex> tlanfer: Are you trying to run startx from inside an X session?
[03:12] <BHSPitMonkey> arrenlex, no good.
[03:12] <n2diy_> arrenlex: Roger that, cool, and I'm cool wiith shell scripts.
[03:12] <SilentDis> kaoz, hmm... you're running dapper I assume, on an i386 kernel?  that script looks VERY custom to a very particular install
[03:12] <tlanfer> arrenlex: yes, i am. I want to start games on a seperate xserver
[03:12] <kaoz> that is the file i got from all the how-tos for pctel modems
[03:13] <kaoz> i dloaded the file straight from pctels website
[03:13] <arrenlex> tlanfer: You can't do it like that. xD
[03:13] <welly> i'm trying to compile apache 2.2 on my recently upgraded dapper server. It looked to be going fine until - libtool: link: `util_charset.lo' is not a valid libtool object
[03:13] <welly> any ideas?
[03:13] <SilentDis> kaoz, are you running edgy?  just looking at it doesn't look like it'll do all that great for you is all.
[03:13] <lucas9000> how can i make it so that i have just one toolbar in gnome (ubuntu edgy)?
[03:13] <name> nearly done :)
[03:13] <moktod> lucas: remove one of them
[03:14] <kaoz> no im runnin  dapper
[03:14] <tlanfer> arrenlex: some time ago on gentoo i always did. startx "/my/directory/foo" -- :1 worked pretty good
[03:14] <SilentDis> lucas9000, you can remove one, but I'd recommend pulling the tool items back to the other one first :)
[03:14] <lucas9000> ok let's see what happens :)
[03:15] <Q_Continuum> Grrr.  Grub isn't liking the vga= option I'm passing to the boot line :-/
[03:15] <tlanfer> arrenlex: and it still does work, except that i have to put a "sudo" in front of it, which is annoying, because i dont want to run games with root-permissions
[03:15] <Shadow_mil> how can I setup ubuntu login automatically on boot?
[03:15] <arrenlex> tlanfer: Do that from a virtual console.
[03:15] <timo901> can any one see this web site ? its complaining about flash     http://www.cnettv.com/9710-1_53-25345.html?tag=vid&autoplay=true#mgallery
[03:15] <SilentDis> kaoz, from what I can tell from that script, it'll only work on 2.6.15-26-368 kernel.  type uname -r, and show us the output please :)
[03:15] <kaoz> i would rather use my us robotics modem... but dont have a way of buying the linuxant drivers full version
[03:15] <arrenlex> tlanfer: Press ctrl+alt+f1 to get to one. ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X. ctrl+alt+f8 to get to your new X.
[03:15] <moktod> how can I find a newer version of a package (gqview 2.1.5)
[03:15] <timo901> i use opera
[03:15] <moktod> using aptitude...
[03:15] <tlanfer> arrenlex: But then how could i have items in my panel to run a game in a seperate xserver?
[03:16] <nolimitsoya> moktod, you cant.
[03:16] <kaoz> 2.6.15-26-386
[03:16] <nolimitsoya> moktod, youll have to download and build the latest version yourself, if you cant find a deb
[03:16] <kaoz> there is the output
[03:17] <arrenlex> tlanfer: Why can't you be satisfied with virtual desktops like everyone else? xP
[03:17] <kaoz> i had this working just great... then i tried to install some ntfs tools so i could write to my ntfs part and it crashed ubuntu
[03:17] <kaoz> therefore i reloaded and updated everything... now i cant get modem to work again and dont remember what i did the foirst time
[03:17] <kaoz> it just started working
[03:17] <noiesmo> !xnest | tlanfer
[03:17] <ubotu> xnest: Nested X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 1295 kB, installed size 3436 kB
[03:18] <kaoz> also i had it running on breezy b4
[03:18] <con-man> how do I move the contents of a folder and not the folder
[03:18] <con-man> mv moves the folder
[03:18] <foob> how can i tell which sound device i'm using (alsa, oss, esd, etc)?
[03:18] <tlanfer> arrenlex: Because it worked like that for about a year on gentoo. Now i changed to ubuntu because i want to be lazy. And being lazy doesnt go together very well with what you are telling me :P
[03:18] <nolimitsoya> what image viewer would let me view animated gif:s?
[03:18] <arrenlex> con-man: mv <folder>/* <somewhere>
[03:18] <SilentDis> kaoz, ok, you are running it all correctly (i assume there was a step you did BEFORE that actually created that makefile then, no worries).  it looks like they have a FAQ file included with those drivers, and in that file they have a 'dedicated' support forum for help with it.
[03:18] <lucas9000> ty SilentDis and moktod
[03:18] <kaoz> ok let me read faqs
[03:18] <SilentDis> lucas9000, nt :)
[03:19] <lucas9000> have a good night all
[03:20] <nolimitsoya> whats the default imageviewer for ubuntu; does it support animated gif:s?
[03:21] <maddash> uh, I can't get "sudo" working - did an server install of dapper. any ideas?
[03:21] <Nontitle> what??? does irc.ubuntu.com link to irc.freenode.net or something? the #ubuntu in freenode and ubuntu.com have the exact same number of people
[03:21] <nolimitsoya> maddash, check your sudoers list
[03:21] <welly> does anyone know why i might be getting this error when i compile apache 2.2.3 on dapper? libtool: link: `util_charset.lo' is not a valid libtool object
[03:21] <Madpilot> Nontitle, same channel
[03:21] <SilentDis> nolimitsoya, i'm checking the name now... but i am sure it supports animated gifs
[03:21] <Madpilot> Nontitle, icr.ubuntu.com is a forward or whatever to irc.freenode.net
[03:21] <chopchop_> how to mount c drive in linux ?
[03:21] <maddash> nolimitsoya: thanks. I did "su" , then "visudo"...what am I looking for?
[03:21] <Q_Continuum> Trying to change my terminal resolution to 1600x1200, the ChangeTTYResolution page isn't working; grub returns "You passed an undefined mode number" when I use the chart listed.
[03:22] <nolimitsoya> SilentDis, thank you :)
[03:22] <Madpilot> maddash, sudo is the command
[03:22] <nolimitsoya> maddash, you username :)
[03:22] <nolimitsoya> *r
[03:22] <Nontitle> cool
[03:22] <Madpilot> ubotu, sudo | maddash
[03:22] <ubotu> maddash: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:22] <maddash> nolimitsoya: all I have is the "Defaults ********" and then, "root ALL=(ALL)ALL"
[03:22] <SilentDis> nolimitsoya, the default one is called Eye of GNOME - http://live.gnome.org/EyeOfGnome :)
[03:23] <nolimitsoya> maddash, that should be fine...
[03:23] <Madpilot> SilenceGold, is EoG still the default in Dapper/Edgy/onward?
[03:23] <nolimitsoya> SilentDis, thank you :)
[03:23] <asdf_> how do I make totem not useless? i.e. allow me to watch .wmv and quick time movies?
[03:23] <Madpilot> SilentDis, that was for you ^^^
[03:23] <Madpilot> ubotu, restricted | asdf_
[03:23] <ubotu> asdf_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:23] <Q_Continuum> nolimitsoya, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution - change terminal resolution.  I was only able to change my 20" LCD (native 1600x1200) to 1280x1024, any higher and grub pukes so far
[03:23] <SilentDis> Madpilot, not sure if it will be in fiesty, but it is in edgy, and was in dapper :)
[03:24] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, thank you. :) whats up with grub?
[03:24] <Madpilot> SilenceGold, ah, thought it was gThumb - but then, I switched to gThumb way back in Hoary...
[03:24] <Q_Continuum> nolimitsoya, I think its more a VESA/VGA issue than grub, some cards/monitors don't support higher res until the OS kicks in it seems :-/
[03:24] <Q_Continuum> but 1280x1024 is MUCH better than 640x480 or whatever the default is.
[03:24] <maddash> notlimitsoya: the file was not "fine." was missing an entire line.
[03:24] <cassidy> hey quick question, can i use mismatch memory in ubuntu? Like 1024 mb ddr2-800 OCZ and 512mb ddr2-667 Corsair?
[03:24] <cassidy> or woudl that be bad
[03:25] <Q_Continuum> cassidy, as long as the hardware works, linux doesn't care - so whatever the board requires.
[03:25] <cassidy> hmm, how do you find that out?
[03:25] <particleman> ah...looks like you're dealing with the same issue I am
[03:25] <particleman> just got a widescreen monitor
[03:25] <particleman> works fine in terminal mode
[03:25] <cassidy> like i got a ga 965p s3
[03:25] <particleman> as soon as X starts up I get a blank screen
[03:25] <Q_Continuum> cassidy, board runs at 667 I assume?
[03:25] <particleman> I have an ATI Radeon 9200
[03:26] <particleman> I can give the model number of my monitor/tv if you wish
[03:26] <cassidy> well right now i'm using the ocz ddr2-800 so that
[03:26] <cassidy> if thats what your asking
[03:26] <maddash> in my server install of dapper, ALT+F2 does nothing...isn't it supposed to bring up some "Run app" dialog? how do I get this working?
[03:26] <particleman> running Dapper
[03:26] <SilentDis> cassidy, DDR memory will 'downclock' itself to the lowest stuff you're running.  the compatibility and ability for that to happen is more dependant on your motherboard than the OS :)
[03:26] <Q_Continuum> cassidy, if the board runs at 667, it should be fine - you can run higher speed ram (800) at a slower speed (667) but not run a slower at faster speeds (vice versa) so you'd have to check the board you're running.
[03:26] <siccccness> I just put in a CISCO Aironet card, and Xubuntu read it... how do I configure it?
[03:26] <siccccness>  im in network settings I see <wireless connection> eth1 and <wireless connection> wifi0
[03:26] <siccccness>  which one do i configure?
[03:26] <particleman> I edited my xorg.conf file to delete any reference to 1280x1024, which the monitor manual says it doesn't support
[03:26] <particleman> but that didn't help
[03:26] <particleman> any ideas?
[03:27] <lufis> particleman: have you tried reconfiguring x?
[03:27] <particleman> how?
[03:27] <welly> does anyone know why i might be getting this error when i compile apache 2.2.3 on dapper? libtool: link: `util_charset.lo' is not a valid libtool object
[03:27] <cassidy> so if i'm overclocking my cpu at 1:1 ratio prolly not a good idea as it might downgrade my ddr2-800 and mess things up?
[03:27] <lufis> particleman: in the terminal: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:27] <particleman> ah
[03:27] <particleman> no I haven't :)
[03:27] <particleman> one sec
[03:27] <lufis> :)
[03:27] <SilentDis> Q_Continuum, i'm still running PC2100 DDR ram in this box, heh.  one is a stick of PC2700 as I got it cheap.  it downclocked fine.  obviously, if I stuck something SLOWER in there, everything would run that slow from then on.
[03:28] <elbeto> Hey guys I have a big problem, my ubuntu doesn't start after login in
[03:28] <lardarse> how do i find out which device my joystick is, so i can use jstest ?
[03:28] <lufis> elbeto: can you give some more details?
[03:28] <jad> anybody from bogota?
[03:29] <con-man> is there a line of code I can put in to show uptime of my box in a webpage?  Im running apache2
[03:29] <elbeto> I logged into ubuntu after a restart and I get a blank screen
[03:29] <lovloss> !imgseek
[03:29] <ubotu> imgseek: Image viewer and manager with content based query. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (edgy), package size 279 kB, installed size 1356 kB
[03:29] <lovloss> i downloaded that, and now i cant find it!
[03:29] <lufis> elbeto: does the compute respond to any key presses?
[03:29] <con-man> you know how you type uptime in console
[03:29] <con-man> I want that value on my website
[03:29] <kaoz> hi silent ok 1 more thing
[03:29] <elbeto> lufis: I've tried to reconfigure the xserver-xorg but it didn't help. After login it freeze
[03:30] <kaoz> i got everything to compile...make and make install with no errors
[03:30] <nolimitsoya> SilentDis, doesnt seem to play gif:s...
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> con-man: http://yarusso.no-ip.org/uptime.html, and /uptime.sh, hooked up to cron.
[03:30] <SilentDis> kaoz, cool, what was wrong?
[03:30] <VerdRousseau> Is it just me or does KDE feel less organized as gnome?
[03:30] <Beck> Umm... hey, I need some help.
[03:30] <kaoz> now i get an error trying to use modprobe
[03:30] <lovloss> i just switched. it is less organized... but it does give you a bit of extra freedom in that way
[03:30] <SilentDis> nolimitsoya, really.  i coulda swore it did, my bad, and my apologies then :(
[03:30] <lufis> elbeto: so it's a graphics problem, you think?
[03:30] <kaoz> no errors were given during the compile process though
[03:30] <kaoz> can u give me that link to paste again so i can show u?
[03:30] <nolimitsoya> SilentDis, no biggie, just thought id let you know :)
[03:30] <kaoz> its 3 lines
[03:30] <Fireal> hey all, I wanna pull pics off a razr phone, any suggestions?
[03:31] <elbeto> I was thinking that the graphics is what caused the problem but the usual suspect didn't saave my day
[03:31] <kaoz> WARNING: Error inserting linmodem (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/misc/linmodem.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:31] <kaoz> WARNING: Error inserting pctel_hw (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/misc/pctel_hw.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:31] <kaoz> FATAL: Error inserting pctel (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/misc/pctel.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:31] <lufis> elbeto: was everything working before you tried reconfiguring xorg?
[03:31] <SilentDis> kaoz, i think you might do best with either the help forums they setup (check that FAQ), or someone else.  I've never used that modem before, so I won't know how to best help you from here out
[03:31] <con-man> tonyyarusso: where do I put uptime.sh
[03:31] <kaoz> there is the message silent
[03:31] <armando> algun venezolano
[03:31] <Beck> I have the Ubuntu live CD and I was wondering if I could install it WITHOUT starting the LiveCD... and if so, how would I do that?
[03:31] <kaoz> does that message mean anything to you
[03:32] <nolimitsoya> kaoz, did you pass the command as su?
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> con-man: Anywhere you want, just make sure your cronjob points to it, and that it runs as a user with permissions to modify the page on the site.
[03:32] <kaoz> yup
[03:32] <kaoz> thats what i get when i type sudo modprobe pctel
[03:32] <SilentDis> kaoz, could be permissions.  sudo <command>.  outside that, I can't say, sorry :(
[03:32] <con-man> do I copy the contents of uptime.sh into my webpage code?
[03:32] <elbeto> I did it because after a restart I started to have problems, but before I tried to change resolutions and I played a little bit and I thik I messed up something for sure. There was not real reason for a reboot.
[03:32] <armando> algun venezolano
[03:32] <Beck> Bah.
[03:32] <lufis> elbeto: oh, hm
[03:32] <armando> necesito ayuda
[03:33] <armando> help
[03:33] <HymnToLife> !es | armando
[03:33] <ubotu> armando: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:33] <meleeglow> hey does anyone know a  direct link to grub
[03:33] <kaoz> does it mean anything to you nolimit?
[03:33] <con-man> tonyyarusso: do I copy the contents of uptime.sh into my webpage code?
[03:33] <tonyyarusso> con-man: Into a file on the server, not the page.
[03:33] <armando> graciasass
[03:33] <con-man> oh ok
[03:33] <HymnToLife> meleeglow, define "GRUB"
[03:33] <meleeglow> \the dualboot p[rogram or whatever
[03:33] <lufis> elbeto: try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:34] <SilentDis> !grub | meleeglow
[03:34] <ubotu> meleeglow: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:34] <Beck> None of you can even help someone that wants to use Ubuntu but can't install it.
[03:34] <con-man> tonyyarusso: im afraid im a bit lost
[03:34] <lufis> Beck: are you having trouble running the livecd?
[03:34] <SilentDis> Beck, i missed your problem description, what problem are you having?
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> con-man: Okay - what step is losing you?
[03:35] <Beck> The LiveCD runs, BUT I think my CD drive is a little too slow for it.
[03:35] <Beck> And I was wondering if I could install it WITHOUT starting the LiveCD... and if so, how would I do that?
[03:35] <lufis> Beck: you can use the text-only installer
[03:35] <michael117> I would like to convert my Ubuntu hard drive to use LVM. Would I just dd my current partition over to another hard drive while booted into a live cd and then whip the drive clean, create the PV, VG, and LV and dd back the partition from the other hard drive? How does Grub do with LVM root partitions?
[03:35] <Soccrmastr> hey guys i need some printer driver help 0.o
[03:35] <con-man> tonyyarusso: i have the .sh file, you said something about it being tied to crons?
[03:35] <SilentDis> Beck, you'll need to use the 'alternate' or 'dvd' version of the ubuntu CD.
[03:35] <Beck> Lufis: Where would that be?
[03:35] <lufis> Beck: what SilentDis said
[03:35] <welly> hi all, am trying to compile apache 2.2.3 and it keeps failing with this error: libtool: link: `util_charset.lo' is not a valid libtool object. I've just upgraded from breezy to dapper and wondering if the upgrade didn't work correctly?
[03:36] <lufis> Beck: you'll have to reburn a cd
[03:36] <Soccrmastr_> eh sorry
[03:36] <Soccrmastr_> hey guys i need some printer driver help 0.o
[03:36] <Beck> Okay, umm.
[03:36] <Beck> Which files would I burn to it?
[03:36] <lufis> Beck: on the ubuntu download page, there is an alternative installer iso
[03:36] <tonyyarusso> con-man: Yeah.  For any user with write priviledges to the web server files (member of www-data group), edit their crontab ('crontab -e') and add a line to run uptime.sh, with the full path to wherever you put it, every hour or however often you want to update.
[03:36] <Beck> Oh... I'm in the text mode on the CD now.
[03:36] <particleman> ok...
[03:37] <SilentDis> Beck, remember when you downloaded the Ubuntu Live CD before?  go back to that same spot (http://www.ubuntu.com/) and download the ALTERNATE CD, and follow the same steps you did before :)
[03:37] <particleman> how do I kill the default bootup of x and restart?
[03:37] <particleman> or do I have to reboot?
[03:37] <Beck> I didn't DL it
[03:37] <lufis> particleman: no need to reboot, just restart x with ctrl alt backspace
[03:37] <Soccrmastr_> i am going to install ubuntu on my sisters laptop (on it now) and she has an HP photosmart 2750 all in one series printer (with bluetooth) and I cant find anywhere to download the drivers, and even if I did find them i wouldnt know how to install them and wouldnt be sure if it supports the bluetooth
[03:37] <Beck> I got it from a field day thing.
[03:37] <SilentDis> Beck, someone handed you a CD?
[03:37] <particleman> whoah
[03:37] <particleman> it works!
[03:37] <particleman> sweet!
[03:37] <lufis> woot :)
[03:37] <particleman> thank you
[03:37] <lufis> no problemo
[03:38] <Beck> Hmm
[03:38] <particleman> now...I am gonna want to get 1360x768 working
[03:38] <nolimitsoya> particleman, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:38] <con-man> tonyyarusso: ok i did crontab -e, and I got a weird page
[03:38] <particleman> though I don't know if my graphics card will support that
[03:38] <Beck> "Ubuntu 6.10, the newest Ubuntu release: If you would like to benefit from the latest Ubuntu features, this is the release for you
[03:38] <Beck>
[03:38] <Beck> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, Ubuntu with long-term support: Choose this to benefit from the long support life-cycle of the 6.06 LTS release. This version is supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 years on servers.
[03:38] <Beck> "
[03:38] <SilentDis> Beck, ahhh.  i was gonna recommend you go back to the good samaritan and let them know that you need the 'alternate' cd.  but, barring that, you can download and burn your own (broadband and a CD burner are the only requirements) :)
[03:38] <Beck> Which do I choose?
[03:38] <tonyyarusso> con-man: Yes.  If you've never used cron before, you may want to read up on it.
[03:38] <Beck> I have both. :D
[03:38] <michael117> Is anyone here familiar with LVM at all?
[03:38] <particleman> michael-some
[03:38] <Soccrmastr_> so can ne1 help me?
[03:38] <waxblood> What's the file to  stop services started with rc.local?
[03:39] <particleman> though honestly I find it a pain the arse :)
[03:39] <nolimitsoya> michael117, for big elaborate topics the mailingslist would probably work better...
[03:39] <Beck> Okay... do I get the one with the long term support?
[03:39] <con-man> i just want my website to show my computers uptime at the bottom
[03:39] <lufis> Beck: it depends on what you want
[03:39] <SilentDis> Beck, let me grab you a direct link.  are you looking for the long-term support version (dapper) or the 'newest' stuff (edgy)?  if this is your first install, i'd recommend dapper for now, you can upgrade later :)
[03:39] <Beck> I have the LiveCD with long term support currently.
[03:40] <michael117> I'm just wondering if it is possible for Grub to use boot ubuntu if the entire disk is LVM
[03:40] <fatlip> ooo i just picked up a new monitor today.. beautiful :)
[03:40] <cafuego_> con-man: Well easy, write a file at bootup and calculate from the file creation time whenever someone hits the site.
[03:40] <fatlip> now i gotta figure out how to get 1440x900 reso on ubuntu\
[03:40] <nolimitsoya> Beck, if you are not planning to upgrade within the next five years, use the lts. if you are, use edgy
[03:40] <cafuego_> fatlip: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:40] <con-man> cafuego_: easier said than done
[03:40] <fatlip> yeah
[03:40] <fatlip> doesnt that reset everything i have?
[03:40] <EvilMike> A few hours ago I came here because my sound wasn't working. I got help and was able to get something to load on startup so the soundcard would work. Unfortunately, I just discovered it doesnt work completely yet. I can play music and videos, but system sounds wont work
[03:40] <lufis> fatlip: no, it lets you reconfigure default values
[03:41] <Beck> Well, I dunno, I don't think that far ahead. :P
[03:41] <fatlip> oh sick
[03:41] <fatlip> :)
[03:41] <nolimitsoya> Micksa, hearsay is that booting lvm isnt trouble free...
[03:41] <EvilMike> For example no sound plays when I log in or log out, gaim doesnt make any sound when I send/recieve messages, etc
[03:41] <SilentDis> Beck, http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#lts
[03:41] <lufis> fatlip: well, in a way, it does reset... but for the better :P
[03:41] <particleman> ok...
[03:41] <particleman> hmm
[03:41] <nolimitsoya> michaek771, hearsay is that booting lvm isnt trouble free...
[03:41] <con-man> cafuego_: and why go to that trouble, cant I just pull off of the "uptime" command we use in terminal
[03:41] <nolimitsoya> >_<
[03:41] <cafuego_> con-man: ssh server touch /some/dir/boot.stamp
[03:41] <Beck> 700MB... I might have to ask the parents about that one. ;)
[03:41] <nolimitsoya> michael117,
[03:42] <lufis> EvilMike: are you using alsa?
[03:42] <particleman> it seems like the resolution values I enabled in the reconfigure aren't available in the gnome display settings manager
[03:42] <cafuego_> con-man: I'm assuming the web server is not the same box you want the uptime from, right?
[03:42] <Neostar-san> hello
[03:42] <con-man> it is
[03:42] <EvilMike> lufis: I think so
[03:42] <Beck> Hmm.
[03:42] <con-man> i want my website to show the uptime of the box its running off of
[03:42] <SilentDis> Beck, here's a DIRECT link to the distro you want: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[03:42] <particleman> and I can't adjust the refresh rate either
[03:42] <Neostar-san> hi people
[03:42] <particleman> I mean I'm happy I'm in and all
[03:42] <particleman> but still :)
[03:42] <Beck> Silent... is there any way to do it with my current one?
[03:43] <particleman> now I want it to work well :P
[03:43] <cafuego_> con-man: Oh well, that's easy.
[03:43] <con-man> what is it?
[03:43] <cafuego_> con-man: Write a small wrapper script and enable server side includes.
[03:43] <SilentDis> Beck, no, the liveCD you have doesn't have the same options available
[03:43] <Neostar-san> well erm see ya ..bye
[03:43] <cafuego_> con-man: Put the wrapper in the cgi-bin dir
[03:43] <lufis> particleman: when you were reconfiguring X, did you input the correct values for refresh rates?
[03:43] <Beck> Sorry, I just dunno if my parents would be too pleased with about a gig of downloads.  I have on my screen now "boot : "
[03:44] <lufis> particleman: one sec, let me link you to a guide
[03:44] <particleman> I entered the range specified in the manual for the vertical refresh rate
[03:44] <lufis> particleman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269052
[03:44] <cafuego_> con-man: Do you just want the entire output of `uptime`?
[03:44] <particleman> not sure about the horizontal rate though
[03:44] <particleman> lufis
[03:44] <particleman> I'll check-thanks
[03:44] <lufis> :)
[03:45] <con-man> cafuego: well the "time" part of it, yes
[03:45] <fatlip> ahhh yesss
[03:45] <fatlip> there we go
[03:45] <fatlip> thanks :)
[03:45] <nolimitsoya> how can i - with a terminal command - add/edit text on a given line of a text document?
[03:45] <Pie-rate> are there any *good* f/oss games?
[03:45] <nolimitsoya> Pie-rate, tremoulus
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> !games | Pie-rate
[03:45] <ubotu> Pie-rate: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:45] <Beck> Errr.
[03:46] <Pie-rate> i've looked around, they're either complete and suck or they're incomplete and look sorta cool if only they were finished
[03:46] <SilentDis> cafuego_, con-man:  if i may interrupt a bit... con-man, if you're running a server with PHP enabled...  this little script might do it for you - http://www.4webhelp.net/scripts/php/uptime.php
[03:46] <kaoz> another questions... how do i add additional kernel choices to boot to?
[03:46] <nolimitsoya> !grub | kaoz
[03:46] <ubotu> kaoz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:46] <Beck> Hmmm.
[03:46] <kaoz> but how do i get the kernel is what i am asking?
[03:47] <nolimitsoya> kaoz, apt-get
[03:47] <kaoz> do i need to reconfigure anything or can i just dload it from synaptic?
[03:47] <hat1> would anyone here be kind enough to help me fix my resolution?
[03:47] <nolimitsoya> helpme | hat1
[03:47] <lufis> hat1: i'll try. shoot
[03:47] <nolimitsoya> !helpme
[03:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:47] <HymnToLife> !resolution | hat1
[03:47] <ubotu> hat1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:47] <kaoz> like i wanna add Ubuntu-2.6.15-23-386 where do i need to start?
[03:48] <nolimitsoya> kaoz, apt-cache search 2.6.15-23-386
[03:48] <elbeto> I will try that phigh thing
[03:48] <kaoz> i am dloading linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS> now form synaptic
[03:48] <nolimitsoya> kaoz, then you are all done
[03:48] <elbeto> lufis: soryy I had to do something
[03:48] <lufis> elbeto: no prob
[03:48] <bruenig> kaoz, it will be added automatically to the menu.lst and so you will just need to reboot when done
[03:49] <kaoz> is there anything else i need to do to get it to show up in grub?
[03:49] <elbeto> I'm gettinh a fatal error message now
[03:49] <miguel> alguien habla espaol
[03:49] <kaoz> sweet that rocks... appearantly the version of the drivers i have for my modem are precompiled for .23
[03:49] <cafuego_> con-man: or via cgi/ssi:  echo -ne '#!/bin/sh\n/usr/bin/uptime | awk "{print \$3}" | sed s/,// \n' > wrapper.cgi
[03:49] <SilentDis> !es | miguel
[03:49] <ubotu> miguel: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:49] <bruenig> kaoz, no it will show up automagically
[03:49] <kaoz> that is great... ok will be back if it dont work hehe
[03:49] <cafuego_> con-man: ... which does essentially the same as the php script.
[03:49] <lufis> elbeto: i'm sorry, what was your problem again?
[03:49] <jessid> hello. I am reading the man page for wget, but I cant find an option to specify a name for the download...some of you know what is it?  thanks
[03:49] <lufis> :P i forgot
[03:50] <kitche> jessid: what do you mean the name of the download is whatever the name of the file your getting is
[03:50] <SilentDis> cafuego_, sorry, i do some php programming from time to time, couldn't help but interject that one heh
[03:51] <HymnToLife> kitche, maybe he precisely want to chage that
[03:51] <miguel> alguien habla espaol
[03:51] <jessid> kitche i am trying to download java from sun web site, but when i use wget, it says that is cant write because it is a very long name
[03:51] <SilentDis> !es | miguel
[03:51] <ubotu> miguel: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:51] <cafuego_> /usr/bin/uptime | awk -F 'up' '{print $2}' | awk -F',' '{print $1}'
[03:52] <cafuego_> That does *exactly* the same as the php script :-)
[03:52] <kitche> jessid: well to even download the java thing you have to agree to their license anyways
[03:52] <HymnToLife> jessid, wget http://foo/bar -O - > baz
[03:52] <cafuego_> SilentDis: I wonder if it would be quicker in PHP to parse the contents of /proc/uptime rather than spawning a shell.
[03:52] <kitche> jessid: so techinally you can't use wget to grab it
[03:53] <lufis> hat1: :(
[03:53] <HymnToLife> kitche, why not ?
[03:53] <hat1> !resolution
[03:53] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:53] <HymnToLife> changing the name of the output file is pretty easy
[03:53] <Pie-rate> ./rushing_bender: error while loading shared libraries: libaviplay-0.7.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:53] <particleman> hmm...
[03:53] <SilentDis> cafuego_, good point.  I only found a need to do that once, and that script satisfied it.  never needed to display uptime, other than to sysadmins at 'control consoles' and the like ;)
[03:53] <kitche> HymnToLife: you have to agree to their license on their webpage to grab the java tarball
[03:53] <particleman> are horizontal sync and vertical refresh ranges usually the same?
[03:53] <HymnToLife> oh, right
[03:53] <HymnToLife> I'll take your word for it :p
[03:54] <lufis> particleman: i don't know, it depends on the monitor
[03:54] <lufis> it should be in the manual
[03:54] <jessid> HymnToLife yes you are right...now it is working
[03:54] <olihah> Hi all.
[03:54] <HymnToLife> Paavo, I've neve ever seen a monitor with the same HorizSync and VertRefresh
[03:54] <jessid> kitche yes, i have already agreed...
[03:54] <HymnToLife> particleman*
[03:54] <olihah> Happy New Year everyone!
[03:54] <cafuego_> SilentDis: Hmmyes, but it'll add the timezone offset to your uptime :-)
[03:55] <jessid> kitche listen to HymnToLife, jejeje  thanks both of you...
[03:55] <SilentDis> cafuego_, lmao
[03:55] <particleman> damnit...can't find the h-refresh
[03:56] <kitche> jessid: well if you have then you have to grab from their website you can't use wget to grab it I have tried
[03:56] <cafuego_> particleman: You shouldn't need to enter those, just pick "Simple" in the screen config.
[03:56] <SilentDis> particleman, you know... i remember checking the BACK of my monitor once for that info...  stupid as it sounds, it was there.  lol
[03:56] <Ace2016> Anyone know an app that'll let me plugin my phone into my computer and text from here? its faster just to type on here
[03:56] <bruenig> email...
[03:56] <Ace2016> na i want to text
[03:56] <Pie-rate> I have a problem with the game "rushing bender," when i run it it gives the following error: "./rushing_bender: error while loading shared libraries: libaviplay-0.7.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[03:56] <HymnToLife> kitche, I've tried id and it works.. using a FF plugin to download with whget :)
[03:56] <jessid> kitche I will tell you in a while...
[03:57] <particleman> cafuego-thing is it's blinking like the refresh rate isn't right
[03:57] <elbeto> lufis: I reinstalled the xerver and I will see if that helps
[03:57] <cafuego_> hrm
[03:57] <bruenig> !info gammu
[03:57] <ubotu> gammu: Mobile phone management utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.07.00-1 (edgy), package size 281 kB, installed size 1032 kB
[03:57] <jessid> HymnToLife it is dowloading . I dont know if i have installed that plugin...
[03:57] <lufis> elbeto: No, don't do that.
[03:57] <bruenig> !info smssend
[03:57] <ubotu> smssend: Utility to send SMS messages to GSM mobile phones. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 87 kB, installed size 688 kB
[03:58] <clouseau_> I am running Ubuntu 6.06 on Parallels and would like to mount an OS X directory
[03:58] <SilentDis> take care all.  off to make dindin :)
[03:58] <clouseau_> I have Windows File Sharing on on OS X
[03:58] <kitche> HymnToLife: hmm Instead -o log that's according to man wget it just makes a log
[03:58] <elbeto> lufis:too late :(
[03:58] <particleman> hmm
[03:58] <lufis> elbeto: it's ok, i was just going to suggest something easier :P
[03:58] <particleman> what happens if I leave the h-refresh blank?
[03:58] <lifepositive> i have a Error window poped up and now I cant close it!  Any solutions please?
[03:58] <drivingmenuts> does anyoen know about ATA ERROR
[03:59] <clouseau_> I'm trying to do mount -t smbfs //my.ip.address/ but no dice
[03:59] <kitche> HymnToLife: where can I get this wget plugin for firefox?
[03:59] <drivingmenuts> does anyone know about XLDR ATA ERROR?
[03:59] <elbeto> Lufis: I take any advice because it didn't help neither
[03:59] <lufis> particleman: don't. google your monitor model and the word "specifications"
[03:59] <HymnToLife> kitche, it's callef FlashGot, you can get it from mozilla.com
[04:00] <lufis> elbeto: Did you try reconfiguring X?
[04:00] <HymnToLife> callef*
[04:00] <HymnToLife> called*
[04:00] <Pie-rate> jschall@jon:~/rushing_bender$ ./rushing_bender.sh
[04:00] <Pie-rate> ./rushing_bender: error while loading shared libraries: libaviplay-0.7.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:00] <Pie-rate> jschall@jon:~/rushing_bender$ sudo find / -name *libaviplay*
[04:00] <Pie-rate> jschall@jon:~/rushing_bender$ apt-cache search libaviplay
[04:00] <Pie-rate> jschall@jon:~/rushing_bender$
[04:00] <name> is there a program to cut a region out of a window?
[04:00] <kitche> HymnToLife: hmm hen I put in wget on the extension part I got DownloadWith
[04:00] <HymnToLife> (it actually doesn't use wget directly but can use gwget, which is a GUI for wget)
[04:00] <Pie-rate> googled the error, nothing about it
[04:01] <hat1> okay.  i have an Intel 945GM/GMS/940GML video card.  How. the. hell. do i change the resolution?
[04:01] <HymnToLife> !915resolution | hat1
[04:01] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra.  We can read lowercase too.
[04:01] <bruenig> !caps
[04:01] <Pie-rate> !ohmy
[04:01] <HymnToLife> !language
[04:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:01] <bruenig> !language
[04:01] <sIc> !help
[04:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:01] <StunBo> I installed mandriva and the 3d effects are awesome....can i get that under ubuntu?
[04:01] <particleman> not helping....
[04:02] <hat1> okay.  how do i download the 915resolution package?
[04:02] <lufis> particleman: do you mind if i PM you?
[04:02] <Pie-rate> StunBo: try beryl, http://beryl-project.org
[04:02] <HymnToLife> hat1, sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[04:02] <kitche> HymnToLife: hmm seems liek it grabs all the links on a page :(
[04:02] <hat1> that didn't work for me before but i'll try again
[04:02] <HymnToLife> kitche, it can grab just one too
[04:02] <bruenig> hat1, it is in universe make sure you have that enabled
[04:02] <particleman> lufis no prob
[04:03] <lufis> ok
[04:03] <HymnToLife> if you right clich on a link, you have "FlashGot link"
[04:03] <hat1> how do i make sure it's enabled?
[04:03] <particleman> sorry...I'm probably doing something dumbass here
[04:03] <StunBo> I tried beryl but it crashed the whole system
[04:03] <HymnToLife> it also appears when you click on a file, with Open / Save as
[04:03] <bruenig> hat1, are you using edgy or dapper?
[04:03] <alexander> hey all
[04:03] <hat1> i think edgy
[04:03] <lufis> particleman: did you get my pm?
[04:03] <alexander> can someone help me out? im kinda new... :(
[04:03] <bruenig> hat1, copy and paste the following in the terminal, the whole thing: sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -e 's/edgy-security universe/edgy-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[04:03] <particleman> hmm
[04:03] <particleman> no
[04:04] <HymnToLife> alenax, just ask your question and we'll try :)
[04:04] <HymnToLife> alexander*
[04:04] <hat1> workin now! thanks
[04:04] <StunBo> How do you get your screen to rotate like a cube?
[04:04] <alexander> HymnToLife, well i installed firestarter
[04:04] <welly> does anyone have any suggestions to my problem re: apache 2.2.3?
[04:05] <alexander> HymnToLife, now im trying to get the thing to start automaticly when i log in
[04:05] <hat1> Patch mode 5c to resolution 1280x800 complete
[04:05] <hat1> 915resolution.
[04:05] <jessid> ubotu, I am just curious...do you feel unconfortable just if some one writes in UPERCASES?
[04:05] <hat1> if i restart will it be in 1280?
[04:05] <alexander> HymnToLife, i went and found the page were i have to make the changes (under the FAQ) but for some reason i cant get the thing to work
[04:05] <VerdRousseau> do most people have both kde and gnome installed?
[04:05] <jessid> oh my god, i am talking to a robot, jejeje
[04:05] <particleman> lufis-I just tried private chatting you
[04:06] <particleman> not working either?
[04:06] <bruenig> alexander, there are many threads at ubuntuforums.org about that. Just search for: firestarter startup
[04:06] <HymnToLife> VerdRousseau, I used to, until I realized I never used GNOME :p
[04:06] <klees> is there a way to have Amarok start faster??
[04:06] <bruenig> klees, no
[04:06] <HymnToLife> klees, get more RAM
[04:06] <VerdRousseau> Yeh cause just installed KDE and I have all these things in my apps
[04:06] <bruenig> klees, get faster cpu
[04:06] <klees> or better yet, have Kdeinit and Klauncher start before Gnome starts up?
[04:07] <bruenig> wow he answered his own question
[04:07] <bruenig> klees, get listen: http://listengnome.free.fr/
[04:07] <kkerwin> Hi. I can't find /proc/config.gz or anything in /etc that resembles a kernel config. How might I find the original kernel config for the default ubuntu kernel?
[04:07] <alekzandr> i have edgy installed, and want to try kubuntu, what do i need to install to do that?
[04:07] <bruenig> alekzandr, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:08] <lufis> particleman: are you getting my messages?
[04:08] <alekzandr> thanks
[04:08] <HymnToLife> alekzandr, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:08] <bruenig> alekzandr, after that massive thing finishes, just log out and then you should be able to pick between a gnome and kde session
[04:08] <particleman> lufis-no
[04:08] <bruenig> apt-get
[04:08] <HymnToLife> (aptitude instead of apt-get makes it easier to remove it if you even want to)
[04:08] <lufis> particleman: huh. one sec, sorry
[04:08] <particleman> wierd
[04:08] <bruenig> apt-get now has autoremove so it is no different
[04:08] <particleman> *sigh*
[04:09] <lufis> particleman: are you on any other im networks?>
[04:09] <lufis> particleman: my pm's aren't going thru i don't guess
[04:09] <alekzandr> edgy is working perfectly on my notebook, better than breezy, i rarely boot into windows anymore
[04:10] <klees> bruenig: what's the latest stable version of Listen?
[04:10] <bruenig> klees, it is in the repos. .4 I think, but .5 beta is much better.
[04:10] <klees> bruenig: .5 beta is not in the repos
[04:10] <amk> what kind of lappy alekzandr?
[04:10] <bruenig> klees, they have a repo on that site, let me find it
[04:11] <kkerwin> Hi. I need to take a look at the default ubuntu kernel config to see if a driver was either built statically into the kernel, or as a module. Where can I find the kernel config? It doesn't appear in /proc/config.gz.
[04:11] <particleman> lufis-bugger
[04:11] <klees> bruenig: yeah saw it
[04:11] <particleman> aim is part1cle
[04:11] <particleman> Y!im is particle_mann
[04:11] <alekzandr> hp livestrong
[04:11] <lufis> ok
[04:11] <particleman> take your pick :)
[04:11] <lufis> :P okay
[04:11] <bruenig> klees, yeah get that dapper unstable repo
[04:11] <alekzandr> the only thing i cannot do now is get my blackberry to work as a modem under linux
[04:11] <bimberi> kkerwin: /boot/config*
[04:11] <kkerwin> bimberi: Thank you.
[04:12] <alekzandr> i would pay money for that
[04:12] <carkeys> hey all.  just one quick question: whats the name of the next ubuntu release and when does it coe out (apromimently)
[04:12] <carkeys> come*
[04:12] <bimberi> kkerwin: np :)
[04:12] <bruenig> klees, or if you just want the deb, it is here http://theli.free.fr/packages/pool/listen-unstable/l/listen/listen_0.5-beta1-7_i386.deb
[04:12] <jbroome> !release | carkeys
[04:12] <ubotu> carkeys: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[04:12] <klees> bruenig: thanks
[04:12] <carkeys> jbroome/ubotu... thanks
[04:12] <tickeshe> hello pipz
[04:13] <tickeshe> happy new year to all
[04:13] <alekzandr> does anyone know who to contact about getting support for a blackberry as a usb device?
[04:13] <arrenlex> tickeshe: *hic*
[04:14] <carkeys> so the next verison of ubuntu wont be out until arround april?
[04:14] <bimberi> carkeys: yes
[04:14] <arrenlex> !feisty | carkeys
[04:14] <ubotu> carkeys: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:14] <tickeshe> does anyone know how to make dialup connection faster? i tried to install this driver from linuxant and it only give me a 14kbps speed
[04:14] <bruenig> what would be a good low resource music player. All I have are ogg so a whole bunch of support for internet radio and stuff isn't necessary
[04:15] <Madpilot> bruenig, try Muine
[04:15] <arrenlex> bruenig: ogg123
[04:15] <CzarAlex> Is there a nifty SSH client with an address book and stuff thats in the edgy repos?
[04:15] <arrenlex> bruenig: Actually music123
[04:15] <carkeys> one last question then. would i be better off useing x64 or x86? (i would like beryl support and i have a nvidia 7800)
[04:15] <fatlip> quick question
[04:15] <fatlip> how do i change my screen resolution?
[04:16] <fatlip> 75 is my only option
[04:16] <fatlip> but i want 60
[04:16] <carkeys> fatlip:
[04:16] <carkeys> thats in the xorg.conf file
[04:16] <alexander> hey does anyone know a DVD making tool? like for making home style DVD of birthdays and stuff?
[04:16] <fatlip> i'm looking at xorg
[04:16] <tickeshe> fatlip: try xrandr
[04:16] <name> that's not the resolution
[04:16] <name> lol
[04:16] <fatlip> and i dont see it
[04:16] <carkeys> if it cant be chaned from the prefrences
[04:16] <bimberi> CzarAlex: putty
[04:16] <carkeys> name is right... thats teh refresh rate
[04:16] <ao_guest_190> hi everyone
[04:17] <Madpilot> fatlip, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:17] <fatlip> 	VertRefresh	50-160
[04:17] <alexander> hey does anyone know a DVD making tool? like for making home style DVD of birthdays and stuff?
[04:17] <tickeshe> fatlip: /etc/X11
[04:17] <carkeys> fatlip: no, you have to specify individual video modes
[04:17] <CzarAlex> alexander: like to edit them and create them?
[04:17] <tickeshe> does anyone know how to make dialup connection faster? i tried to install this driver from linuxant and it only give me a 14kbps speed
[04:18] <carkeys> one last question then. would i be better off useing x64 or x86? (i would like beryl support and i have a nvidia 7800)
[04:18] <name> do you have x64?
[04:18] <carkeys> yes
[04:18] <name> there are less pkgs afaik but
[04:18] <alexander> CzarAlex, ya... like i have some clips and pictures off of my Digital camera, and know I want to make a DVD off of it. like with menus and titles
[04:18] <carkeys> i would *like* to get my moneys worth and use all of the porc
[04:18] <arrenlex> carkeys: You are better off using 32-bit. For desktops, you will not notice a performance difference, and 32-bit is more compatible.
[04:18] <VerdRousseau> In Kde does anyone know what the difference between a Shell, terminal, and konsole are
[04:18] <carkeys> but... if it will save me the hassle, ill stick to x86
[04:18] <CzarAlex> VerdRousseau: I believe they're all the same.
[04:19] <ao_guest_190> i just bought a archos 80GB 504 this month and i would like to know its hidden features or something like that u know like a emulator for some roms or something like that, who ever can help me please private me plz thank you
[04:19] <kkerwin> VerdRousseau: They are all the same.
[04:19] <VerdRousseau> thats wierd how they give you all teh same thing
[04:19] <arrenlex> VerdRousseau: Your shell is the program that executes commands. i.e. /bin/sh
[04:19] <name> is there a grapical recoding tool
[04:19] <CzarAlex> alexander: I recently tried to search for just that kinda thing. I was unable to find one i liked but some names to search for are kino and diva
[04:19] <name> for videos?
[04:19] <arrenlex> VerdRousseau: Your terminal is whatever is running the shell, be it a text console or a console emulator.
[04:19] <klees> bruenig: does Listen support Equalizer?
[04:19] <arrenlex> VerdRousseau: konsole is a terminal. It is a console emulator.
[04:19] <CzarAlex> Anyone know of an SSH client with an address book?
[04:20] <carkeys> arrenlex: ive used a x64 desktop and with multiple applications i was a tad faster and much more responsive than a 32 bit mchine
[04:20] <kitche>  CzarAlex only one that I know is putty
[04:20] <bruenig> klees, don't know what that is
[04:20] <arrenlex> carkeys: Placebo.
[04:20] <alexander> CzarAlex, Ty... ill take a look... TY alot!
[04:20] <klees> bruenig: Presets
[04:20] <CzarAlex> kitche: Thanky.
[04:20] <CzarAlex> alexander: no prob!
[04:21] <carkeys> arrenlex: i have a feeling your right. however, w/ ~ 15 applications open, they jsut seemed faster (and i timed a few of them loading... faster than 32 by a few sec)
[04:21] <bruenig> klees, I don't know, I used it for a while, worked great, but it have very little RAM. Just try it out and see, at the very worse, all you have to do is sudo apt-get remove listen
[04:21] <bruenig> but I have*
[04:21] <arrenlex> carkeys: If you were looking at two identical machines, one 32-bit and one 64-bit, and explored each one, running the same applications and messing with the desktop, there is no way in hell you'd guess which was witch.
[04:21] <budluva> hey anyone here tried openarena yet?
[04:22] <arrenlex> carkeys: Even if you look at sites that feature comparisons of 32-bit vs. 64-bit computers doing the same operations, you'll see about half the things are faster and half are slower.
[04:22] <jessid> kitche yes. it is done...I downloaded jdk using wget... good bye...happy new year!
[04:22] <budluva> just wondering if regular q3a mods work for openarena
[04:22] <arrenlex> carkeys: Further, because of bloated memory addresses, your executables will be larger.
[04:23] <carkeys> arrenlex: your right about that.. it does depend on the specific application, and i use 32bit vista instead of 64 because of the smaller memory addresses
[04:23] <clouseau_> where do you find the "Places" menu?
[04:23] <particleman_> am I back?
[04:23] <arrenlex> carkeys: It's not to say that 64-bit poses no advantages. But you'd have to write your programs to make use of them. If you just compile a program with a 64-bit instruction set, which is what's currently done, there are no benefits.
[04:23] <clouseau_> is there a package I need to install for the Places menu to show up?
[04:24] <klees> under Synaptic Package Manager how can i search for multiple packages?
[04:24] <carkeys> arrenlex: im not a developer (i do web pages, not comp aps.), ill take your word for it; it probably is jsut a placebo
[04:24] <m0dY> why when i mount a dir to another dir as a read-only by using the -o ro,usrquota --bind flag it is still mounted as re-writeable ?
[04:26] <hat1> !java
[04:26] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:27] <amk> what does the flag in /proc/sys/kernel/ctrl-alt-del control?
[04:27] <amk> just a random questions...
[04:27] <amk> -s
[04:28] <particleman_> great...I'm ghosting
[04:28] <clouseau_> is there even a Places menu in the default Ubuntu install?
[04:28] <particleman_> lufis-you still around?
[04:28] <clouseau_> or are the docs outdated?
[04:28] <particleman_> I think I got booted a while back
[04:29] <kitche> clouseau_: yes check under System
[04:29] <m0dY> why when i mount a dir to another dir as a read-only by using the -o ro,usrquota --bind flag it is still mounted as re-writeable ?
[04:29] <clouseau_> kitche: no Places under System
[04:30] <kitche> m0dY: I m just guessing here but probably because the other directory is rw
[04:31] <fatlip> okay i got how to change the refresh rate
[04:32] <elbeto> I logged into ubuntu after a restart and I get a blank screen
[04:32] <fatlip> how do i find my monitors HSync? i dont see it in the manual, just vsync
[04:32] <carkeys> fatlip: it might be displayed through the OSD
[04:32] <fatlip> ahh yes
[04:32] <fatlip> nope
[04:32] <carkeys> hmm
[04:32] <fatlip> only whats in use via vsync
[04:33] <carkeys> what monitor do you have?
[04:33] <fatlip> i just got it
[04:33] <m0dY> kitche, i think it's something with the mount command !?!?
[04:33] <fatlip> lemme see the model
[04:33] <fatlip> LG L194WT
[04:33] <mebaran151> where could I go to vlc advice
[04:33] <mebaran151> I want to watch a wmv3 movie, but it complains about fourcc
[04:33] <particleman_> fatlip-you and I are having the same problem
[04:33] <fatlip> i'm trying to drop my refresh rate to 60
[04:34] <fatlip> so beryl runs smooth ;)
[04:34] <particleman_> I've got a Toshiba DVD/tv/monitor combo that doesn't want to work right
[04:34] <elbeto> I logged into ubuntu after a restart and I get a blank screen
[04:34] <carkeys> fatlip: i cnat find it either.
[04:34] <carkeys> cant*
[04:34] <carkeys> jsut use default in xorg.conf ?
[04:35] <fatlip> i'm gunna have to
[04:36] <fatlip> time to test
[04:36] <m0dY> kitche, checked chmod'ing folder to 000 and mounted and nothing changed
[04:37] <elbeto> I logged into ubuntu after a restart and I get a blank screen, I'm in deep shit, help!
[04:37] <carkeys> elbeto: what did oyu do before you logged out
[04:37] <carkeys> you*
[04:39] <elbeto> I was doing a lot of things, I was playing with the system, one of the things I've tried was to change the resolution but it didn't work. I already tried to reconfigure xserver-xorg and it didn't work. I tried to reinstall the xserver and i'm agetting an error message
[04:39] <carkeys> wat error msg?
[04:39] <carkeys> and did you backup your xorg.conf file?
[04:40] <pr0gress0r> Hi all, Happy New Year, Im installing ubunto after a failed fedora 6 system. Quick question. Can I get the latest software for kde, firefox etc etc from certain apt repos or am i going to need to install from each site?
[04:41] <carkeys> pr0gres.: ya. most of that should automacally update
[04:41] <amk> I've come across tons of kde software in the repos
[04:41] <elbeto> Car: I think it backed up automatically. After I tried to reinstall the xserver I typed startx and I'm getting Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0
[04:41] <pr0gress0r> well ive done the dist-upgrade and its only at kde 3.5.2 ( i wanted 3.5.5 ) and firefox 1.5
[04:41] <carkeys> why did yo utry to reinstall it?
[04:41] <fatlip> okay i tried to reconfigure xorg, and i manually did it
[04:41] <pr0gress0r> maybe i dont have all the apt repos configured
[04:41] <fatlip> still no dice
[04:41] <kitche> pr0gress0r: ubuntu edgy has firefox 2.0
[04:41] <carkeys> pr0: what version of ubuntu did you install?
[04:41] <fatlip> wont drop below 75
[04:41] <fatlip> i need 60 :(
[04:42] <elbeto> Becuasu I though that something got screwed up and it will be better to reinstall it
[04:42] <Dasnipa`> pr0gress0r, well its 'latest' actually. the packages are frozen to the versions available at release for instance gaim is version 2.0 beta 3 despite gaim currently being at beta5
[04:42] <pr0gress0r> ive got ubuntu 6.06.1
[04:43] <carkeys> fatlip: i get that too: the ubuntu system preferences says my resolution is at 1024. but its 19 x 12
[04:43] <eztk_> fatlip i had a similar problem with nvidia card and dell LCD monitor, it needed to be on 60 but the damn thing was stuck on 75 hz or something
[04:43] <carkeys> as long as it works in xorg.conf file it should be fine
[04:43] <eztk_> fatlip: i had to edit xorg.conf to make it work
[04:43] <Dasnipa`> pr0gress0r, yes the packages are updated every 6 months corresponding with the newest release
[04:43] <fatlip> i did
[04:43] <fatlip> mine says vsync is 60
[04:43] <pr0gress0r> can I tell this thing to upgrade to the latest ubunto version?
[04:43] <fatlip> but in ubuntu options its 75
[04:43] <eztk_> fatlip: i did that as well.. it wont work. let me pastebin.ca my xorg.conf, ok?
[04:44] <eztk_> fatlip: you have to do a bit more
[04:44] <carkeys> albeto: it sounds like you didnt fully uninstall the first version. i doont know how to help you with that
[04:44] <fatlip> alright
[04:44] <pr0gress0r> can I do a update to get to the latest ubunto kernel and dist?
[04:45] <Dasnipa`> pr0gress0r, yes you can
[04:45] <Madpilot> ubotu, upgrade | pr0gress0r
[04:45] <ubotu> pr0gress0r: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:45] <Dasnipa`> let me get a url for you.
[04:45] <pr0gress0r> Dasnipa`: excellent.
[04:45] <pr0gress0r> thanks a ton!
[04:45] <Madpilot> Dasnipa`, the URL the bot just provided? ;)
[04:45] <Dasnipa`> Madpilot, yes of course i was a second away from typing that
[04:46] <jengc0il> hello world
[04:46] <Dasnipa`> though i would have used the > output operator instead of the pipe but thats just personal preference
[04:46] <SyncopatedFool> how do i run windows media files on mozilla in linux?  what packages do i need?
[04:46] <eztk_> fatlip: http://pastebin.ca/300379
[04:46] <bruenig> !info mozilla-mplayer
[04:46] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[04:46] <SyncopatedFool> ty bruenig
[04:46] <eztk_> fatlip: note the last few lines ok? the subsection with  Modes "1280x1024_60.00" in it
[04:47] <fatlip> yes i see
[04:47] <fatlip> is that what i have to do?
[04:47] <eztk_> fatlip: after you added those lines for the subsection (make sure it matches what i show you), you have to restart your window manager
[04:47] <eztk_> fatlip: some people do ctrl+backspace or something
[04:48] <SyncopatedFool> wait, i already have that installed, i'm pretty sure this is not the only package i need to install, because i remember having to install multiple packages on my friend's box the other week, i just forgot the printed list there
[04:48] <eztk_> fatlip: it worked for me after much struggling! lol
[04:48] <carkeys> fatlip: yes, ctrl + alt +bkspce works to reset the windos manager
[04:48] <eztk_> fatlip: dont forget to do the uncommenting above it as well ... # >> uncommenting
[04:49] <fatlip> okay i'm gunna try it out now
[04:49] <eztk_> fatlip: good luck
[04:49] <fatlip> brb!
[04:49] <fatlip> NICE!
[04:50] <fatlip> it worked!! thanks :)
[04:50] <SyncopatedFool> !info restricted-formats
[04:50] <ubotu> Package restricted-formats does not exist in any distro I know
[04:50] <eztk_> fatlip, no problem :)
[04:50] <fatlip> now lets see if beryl runs smoother
[04:50] <eztk_> fatlip: i find disabling a few options makes beryl smoother. vsync and refresh rate something or another....
[04:50] <exs> guys, what's the best way to speed up windows xp under vmware?
[04:51] <jroes_> how can I execute a command like "sudo iwconfig ra0 essid networkname" on startup?
[04:51] <Dasnipa`> 'speed up windows'? get the devs to build a better OS
[04:51] <doviende> exs: ask on a windows channel?
[04:51] <kitche> exs probably give it more ram
[04:51] <eztk_> fatlip: also do not be confused by this XGL thing like I was... default gnome on ubuntu (at least on 6.10) gives built in aiglex
[04:51] <eztk_> aiglx i mean
[04:51] <doviende> haha, ya, give it a ton of ram
[04:51] <eztk_> that will support direct rendering
[04:51] <fatlip> yeah originally i was using xgl and it was smooth and everything
[04:52] <fatlip> then i did a reinstall of ubuntu
[04:52] <eztk_> i found xgl didnt allow nvidia driver to do direct rendering
[04:52] <fatlip> used aiglx, and now its kinda choppy
[04:52] <eztk_> fatlip: i will dump my xorg.conf in full for you, ok?
[04:52] <kitche> eztk_: well it does but xgl doesn't allow any card to
[04:52] <eztk_> kitche: ok
[04:52] <fatlip> what'd you change?
[04:52] <eztk_> fatlip: i will give u a link
[04:53] <linuxeatswindows>  I <3 beryl
[04:53] <xtian> if i wanted to echo something in 2 lines, how would i put a new line character in string to be echoed?
[04:53] <eztk_> fatlip: http://pastebin.ca/300387
[04:53] <mebaran151> grabbing a new torrent
[04:53] <levander> Apparently, I used to have java-gcj on my system.  It's purged now, but there are still some files it left on the file system: /etc/alternatives/rmic.1.gz which is a link to a file which does not exist, /usr/bin/java which is a link to /etc/alternatives/java which is a link to a file in /usr/lib that does not exist.  I hate messing with files that are part of the "base" system and not use the package manager.  But, would you guys just
[04:53] <levander> go ahead and delete these files?
[04:53] <klees> is there a way to have Kdeinit and Klauncher start before Gnome starts up???
[04:53] <mebaran151> of FLCL to reproduce the rip from my friend
[04:54] <eztk_> fatlip: i turned on things like triple buffering
[04:54] <mebaran151> stupid wmv9 complex profile that isn't compatible
[04:54] <doviende> levander: use "update-alternatives" to mess with the symlinks
[04:54] <fatlip> what card you got?
[04:54] <fatlip> i'm running a 5500
[04:54] <eztk_> fatlip: you may want to also check out #beryl
[04:54] <eztk_> fatlip: im running an fx5200, so i use the latest nvidia drivers
[04:54] <eztk_> fatlip: the wiki for beryl is very good, explains what you need to do
[04:55] <doviende> levander: it lets you have multiple versions of something, like java or x-terminal-emulator, and you use update-alternatives to pick your preferred one
[04:55] <xtian> how do i get echo to print text on more than one line?
[04:55] <xtian> nvm, its -e and then \n
[04:56] <fatlip> #
[04:56] <fatlip>     Option         "NoLogo"
[04:56] <kitche> xtian: do echo text \ echo text if that's the way you want or is it the same text?
[04:56] <fatlip> whats that?
[04:56] <fatlip> whoops sorry, bad paste
[04:56] <eztk_> fatlip: stops the nvidia logo coming up
[04:56] <eztk_> fatlip: when u start Xor
[04:56] <eztk_> xorg
[04:56] <fatlip> oh mine doesnt show up anyway lol
[04:56] <eztk_> lol .. hmmm
[04:57] <Bhaskar> zorro:why not totem can nt play .dat,.mp3 file?
[04:57] <eztk_> fatlip: means you are running defaul legacy drivers!!
[04:57] <fatlip> addargbglglxvisuals
[04:57] <eztk_> fatlips: thats why its slow
[04:57] <fatlip> yeah i am
[04:57] <fatlip> i didnt download the new ones
[04:57] <kitche> fatlip: what card do you have?
[04:57] <levander> doviende: I just used update-alternatives for rmic.1.gz with the --remove-all option.  Does that do anything other than "rm /etc/alternatives/rmic.1.gz"?
[04:57] <fatlip> 5500
[04:57] <xtian> kitche, i just wanted to be able to print something like "You are using Ubuntu\nWelcome!"
[04:57] <kitche> fatlip: ok get the nvidia-glx you don't need the legacy driver
[04:57] <fatlip> k
[04:57] <eztk_>    Driver         "nvidia"    <<< change nv to nvidia (as it is here now) after u install nvidia drivers
[04:58] <eztk_> fatlip,, do what kitche told you.. it will make things fly
[04:58] <fatlip> it is set to 'nvidia' now
[04:58] <xtian> kitche, but echo was just printing the \n. I just needed to use the -e option
[04:58] <fatlip> but i guess its not referring toanything
[04:58] <eztk_> and the logo will come on
[04:58] <xtian> kitche, thanks anyways
[04:58] <eztk_> unless u disable it
[04:58] <doviende> levander: uhh....i don't know exactly what it does in a certain situation, i just trust it blindly :)
[04:58] <eztk_> no, leave as nv until u install the propriety drivers from nvidia
[04:58] <fatlip> nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
[04:59] <eztk_> ok maybe u already have it
[04:59] <eztk_> then leave as nvidia
[04:59] <eztk_> was it on nv before ?
[04:59] <fatlip> it was nvidia
[04:59] <eztk_> hmmm
[04:59] <fatlip> i might have done it through automatix2 .. i dont fully remember
[04:59] <eztk_> its odd because you didnt see the logo come up
[04:59] <fatlip> should i get the beta drivers?
[04:59] <eztk_> people here hate automatix  dude, but i understand why u use it.. its easier...
[04:59] <eztk_> easyubuntu is also out there
[04:59] <eztk_> nah u dont need beta
[05:00] <Music_Shuffle> !automatix
[05:00] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:00] <Music_Shuffle> xD
[05:00] <fatlip> i actually hate automatix but i decided to give it a chance
[05:00] <kitche> xtian: with echo \n will be outputed you have to make a small script to do it with scho on both lines
[05:00] <fatlip> ANOTHER chance
[05:00] <asmcoder8> hi everyone!!!!!
[05:00] <eztk_> heh
[05:00] <fatlip> broke my X once, but then automatix2 came out
[05:00] <eztk_> the thing is, many people coming from windows etc dont want too much hassle with command prompt stuff
[05:00] <eztk_> so automatix was born i gues
[05:00] <fatlip> ehh i dont mind command line
[05:01] <fatlip> but i was in a rush
[05:01] <fatlip> ;)
[05:01] <Ahadiel> Could anyone explain to me how I link folders?
[05:01] <xtian> kitche, if you invoke the -e option, it interprets \n as a newline, rather than literally
[05:01] <jeff_> just finished installing 6.1 on a ACER 5100 with ATI Xpress 1100, cant seem to get Beryl to stop crashing everytime I do something, anybody have success?
[05:01] <eztk> fatlip: well its strange you dont see the nvidia logo when u restart the window manager... and you find slow performance
[05:01] <Bhaskar> who can say totem player is not supporting .dat/.mp3 file why???
[05:01] <doviende> Ahadiel: what do you mean by link?   could you say what you want to happen?
[05:01] <eztk> eztk: worth making sure blur effects are off
[05:02] <eztk> oops to fatlip
[05:02] <fatlip> heh it is off
[05:02] <Ahadiel> doviende: I have proftpd running on ubuntu, and I also have Apache2 running
[05:02] <kitche> xtian: hmm let me switch over to bash
[05:02] <Ahadiel> Proftpd using local users as login info
[05:02] <jarrod10_> could an ubuntu livecd resize the volume of my osx HFS+ volume on my macbook harddrive?
[05:02] <Ahadiel> and I'm trying to link a folder in someone's /home dir to link to /var/www
[05:03] <jeff_> Ahadiel, ln -s /home/folder /other/folder
[05:03] <doviende> Ahadiel: oh, you might have to turn on a "followsymlinks" option or something
[05:03] <fatlip> maybe its becuase i didnt add triple buffer this time
[05:03] <eztk> fatlip: well keep sticking at it, the rewards are great :)
[05:03] <Ahadiel> deviende how do I turn it on =/
[05:03] <fatlip> i mean its not THAT choppy
[05:03] <kitche> xtian: with e it does the same thing
[05:03] <fatlip> but its slower than it was with xgl on my old install
[05:03] <eztk> fatlip: its gone 4am in the UK, so im off to bed! lol
[05:03] <fatlip> thanks for the help :)
[05:03] <doviende> Ahadiel: have you already made a symlink that you need?   like jeff_ just said?
[05:03] <Ahadiel> I can ln -s folders, but it gives me an error when I try to access it
[05:03] <jeff_> just finished installing 6.1 on a ACER 5100 with ATI Xpress 1100, cant seem to get Beryl to stop crashing everytime I do something, anybody have success?
[05:03] <eztk> fatlip: dont forget to join #beryl channel...
[05:03] <eztk> fatlip: they helped me a lot too
[05:03] <Ahadiel> yes I've done that
[05:04] <jeff_> Ahadiel, permission
[05:04] <Ahadiel> I'm root =/
[05:04] <eztk> fatlip: this is what the linux community is about.. helping , sharing, etc :)
[05:04] <fatlip> thats what i love about it :)
[05:04] <doviende> Ahadiel: ya, usually server programs like proftpd and apache don't allow users to get out of certain directories through symlinks
[05:04] <eztk> fatlip: you're welcome. good luck :)
[05:04] <doviende> Ahadiel: it's a security feature
[05:04] <eztk> fatlip: im glad to hear it. tell your friends and enemies too ;)
[05:04] <doviende> Ahadiel: so somewhere in the settings file, you need to allow it to follow symlinks
[05:04] <Ahadiel> k
[05:04] <CzarAlex> When I hold any key on the keyboard, I can't click with my mouse, or move it. Thus I can't hold shift and select a group of object, or hold CTRL and select objects.. suggestions?
[05:04] <eztk> fatlip: see you on here sometime. bye.
[05:05] <Ahadiel> Lets say I did, ln -s /home/dude/www /var/www/dude
[05:05] <Bhaskar> eztk: u know abt totem player
[05:05] <Ahadiel> if I went to /var/www/dude I get an error
[05:05] <Ahadiel> when tryign to CD into it
[05:05] <Ahadiel> trying**
[05:05] <eztk> bhaskar: yeah
[05:05] <Ahadiel> (In bash)
[05:05] <doviende> oh, in bash?
[05:05] <Ahadiel> yes
[05:05] <doviende> Ahadiel: are they on different filesystems?
[05:05] <Ahadiel> "Devel: too many levels of system links"
[05:06] <doviende> Ahadiel: can't symlink across filesystems
[05:06] <Ahadiel> heh?
[05:06] <doviende> Ahadiel: like different partitions
[05:06] <eztk> bhaskar: you may have to ask the channel. i need sleep.. 4.06am here ;)
[05:06] <Bhaskar> eztk: my totem player can not play .dat and .mp3 file why??
[05:06] <Ahadiel> its on the same partition
[05:06] <fatlip> well that was it
[05:06] <fatlip> i needed triplebuffer
[05:06] <doviende> Ahadiel: oh, did you get that message from bash?  about the levels of system links?
[05:06] <Ahadiel> yes
[05:06] <eztk> !mp3
[05:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:07] <doviende> Ahadiel: crazy...i haven't seen that before
[05:07] <eztk> !mp3 | bhaskar
[05:07] <doviende> Ahadiel: google the error?
[05:07] <ubotu> bhaskar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:07] <Ahadiel> k
[05:07] <eztk> bhaskar: i hope that helps. i'd hang around but I need sleep. bye!
[05:07] <theflyingfool> i have been trying to reinstall edgy for the last hour and for what ever reason it keeps failing
[05:07] <xtian> kitche, not for me, try     echo -e "this is ubuntu\nwelcome"
[05:08] <kitche> xtian: ah your putting it in quotes see I am not
[05:08] <doviende> theflyingfool: got a specific problem to tell us?
[05:08] <doviende> theflyingfool: we can't read minds ;)
[05:08] <kitche> xtian: I m use to the no quote way that's why :P
[05:08] <enigma32> I've got a specific problem
[05:08] <theflyingfool> it keeps coming with broken packages
[05:08] <jeff_> seems #beryl is quiet, real quiet, are thay on break?, haha
[05:08] <theflyingfool> so i tested the cd and it said it was fine
[05:09] <xtian> kitche, gotcha, i was using it to generate a shell script without an editor, just adding a few lines to a file using redirection
[05:09] <zacharypruckowsk> complicated question.   Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[05:10] <Madpilot> madman91, no. Ubuntu couldn't exist without Debian...
[05:11] <zacharypruckowsk> if I install Ubuntu in a virtual machine, is it going to matter that I'm using an unsupported DVD drive?
[05:11] <xtian> kitche, oh youre right! haha, i completely forgot about that
[05:11] <elbeto> Problem here: nothing happen after login. Brown screen, can move the mouse but nothing else happens
[05:11] <xtian> kitche, good call on that one
[05:12] <kitche> xtian: not sure if it will put the echo -e part in it though
[05:12] <elbeto> After some gdm restarting and reconfiguring it changed my resolution
[05:12] <ianthepetrock> I have just installed webalizer from apt, how do i access it?
[05:12] <enigma32> Question:  I'm trying to install 6.10 and it keeps crashing at various points during the install... usually with the disc spinning and no control of the machine. Tried the alternate install but get a white screen that looks like a display driver issue....
[05:13] <madman91> Madpilot: i know.. but when i googled ubuntu vs debian . there is some major hate going n
[05:13] <tehArtist> Hey everyone, just wanted to say, I got my Disc Drive problem fixed with Ubuntu, and finally got the LiveCD install working..now I'm stuck in the install (this is my first *nix install in a long time). I have an unallocated amount of space on the HDD set aside for Ubuntu...
[05:13] <Madpilot> madman91, well, there's some awfully silly things being said
[05:13] <kitche> xtian: nope it doesn't
[05:13] <elbeto> Problem here: nothing happen after login. Brown screen, can move the mouse but nothing else happens
[05:13] <madman91> madman91: does shuttleworth ever come into #ubuntu :D ?
[05:13] <xtian> kitche, to be exact, i was adding a few lines to a file, using echo -e "date\necho \"Users Currently Logged In\"\nwho" >> whoson
[05:13] <tehArtist> I'm not sure how to do the swap/root stuff...
[05:13] <NickGarvey> madman91, talking to yourself? :)
[05:14] <elbeto> Problem here: nothing happen after login. Brown screen, can move the mouse but nothing else happens
[05:14] <xtian> kitche, im new to linux, and am reading a book and just doing examples for myself, no real problems to conquer, yet
[05:14] <madman91> NickGarvey: yes ,, yes i am
[05:14] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, swap is part of your hard drive that is used as RAM
[05:14] <madman91> Madpilot:  does shuttleworth ever come into #ubuntu :D ?
[05:14] <doviende> xtian: ya, i tihnk it'd be easier to just do    cat >> whoson
[05:14] <Madpilot> tehArtist, depends on how much space you've got to play in. I'd got w/ 5-10 Gb for root, maybe 1Gb for /swap
[05:14] <doviende> xtian: and then type stuff
[05:14] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, root is similar to C:\ in windows
[05:14] <Madpilot> madman91, not #ubuntu, no, but he is on other Ubuntu irc channels
[05:14] <kitche> xtian: I haven't done vig bash programming in a while
[05:14] <kitche> vig/big
[05:15] <tehArtist> Well, I have set aside 75.10 GiB since I have such a large HDD
[05:15] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, 75 for swap or for root?
[05:15] <madman91> Madpilot: thats crazy
[05:15] <xtian> kitche, yea, cat would definitely be the best way to go. vig?
[05:15] <tehArtist> I need to split that 75.10 and set aside 1Gib for Swap
[05:15] <tehArtist> correct?
[05:15] <madman91> Madpilot: the linux word is so small... try getting B. Gates on a channel
[05:15] <Madpilot> madman91, yeah, it's cool
[05:15] <kitche> xtian: vig was suppose to be big
[05:15] <doviende> tehArtist: probably 300MB of swap is lots, unless you need more for laptop hibernation
[05:15] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, yeah, sounds good, you might do 1.5G if you don't have much RAM
[05:15] <xtian> kitche, oh gotcha, thanks for the help
[05:15] <Madpilot> tehArtist, you should have a seperate / (root) partition too
[05:16] <tehArtist> I have 1 gig of ram
[05:16] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, If you have n Mb of ram, you need between n and 2*n Mb of swap.
[05:16] <doviende> tehArtist: are you on a laptop that needs to suspend-to-disk?
[05:16] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, If you have a disk big enough, just put 2*n Mb swap
[05:16] <kitche> tehArtist: hmm swap isn't needed unless you want suspend or hibrate
[05:16] <doviende> NickGarvey: that's an old recomendation
[05:16] <doviende> NickGarvey: taht's from the days of 32MB of ram
[05:16] <NickGarvey> doviende, fix the !swap article then heh
[05:16] <tehArtist> no, I have ubuntu on my laptop running great
[05:16] <tehArtist> my desktop is an OEM
[05:17] <tehArtist> and being a pain in the arse about taking the ubuntu install
[05:17] <kitche> doviende: actually it's still recommended linux cna go into swap storms
[05:17] <theflyingfool> during install why would files come up corrupt
[05:17] <theflyingfool> after testing the disc
[05:17] <theflyingfool> and it saying its fine
[05:17] <tehArtist> ok..I'm gonna set the Swap file to 2Gib like NickGarvey has reccomended
[05:17] <doviende> whatever gets put into swap has to get read back out again.  if you've got more than a few hundred MB of stuff in swap it's gonna take forever to read it out anyway.
[05:17] <NickGarvey> theflyingfool, did you try to install again?
[05:17] <po0f> doviende: Do you really need to shave that 1G of swap down to 512MB on your 250G HD?  ;P
[05:17] <theflyingfool> i am trying right now
[05:17] <doviende> if you haev 1G of ram and you fill up 1G of swap then you just havea  RAM problem ;)
[05:18] <doviende> po0f: ok, true
[05:18] <doviende> but on my laptop i only haev 80G, so it doesn't make sense to make a 2G swap
[05:18] <tehArtist> OK, haha, everyone is confusing me...1G or 2G of swap?
[05:18] <NickGarvey> doviende, yeah that would be overkill
[05:18] <kitche> doviende: really swap is needed for some stuff now like core dumps and such more advance linux admining things
[05:18] <tehArtist> or 512MB?
[05:18] <po0f> doviende: I go with the "you never need it til you need it" philosophy and have a 2G swap partition.
[05:18] <doviende> tehArtist: k, 1G is fine if you have lots of HD space
[05:18] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, if you have a huge HD then I'd do 2g
[05:18] <tehArtist> I have plenty of HD space
[05:19] <tehArtist> its a 250G HDD
[05:19] <tehArtist> space isn't an issue
[05:19] <kitche> tehArtist: also you have plenty of ram so you should even get near swap
[05:19] <doviende> tehArtist: your machine would still run just fine with zero swap, so whatever you think is good will also be just fine
[05:20] <NickGarvey> (rand() * 2)
[05:20] <doviende> hehe
[05:20] <NickGarvey> thats how much swap ;)
[05:20] <tehArtist> ok, I have my 1G swap file now...
[05:20] <jewbilee> lets hope that his rand does not generate a .01
[05:21] <tehArtist> when I create my new Partion, I set it as a ext3 partition correct?
[05:21] <NickGarvey> yeah, a MB of swap would be a little useless
[05:21] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, yes
[05:21] <enigma32> Question: Can't install 6.10 on my laptop. Freezes at various points during the install. Text-only install seems to have a display driver issue. Any other way to install?
[05:21] <tehArtist> k
[05:21] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, if that is your root partition
[05:21] <NickGarvey> enigma32, display driver?
[05:21] <tehArtist> and thats a primairy partition?
[05:21] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, yes
[05:21] <theflyingfool> Anybody know what could cause things to go currupt during install
[05:22] <NickGarvey> theflyingfool, try installing again, it might be a one time thing
[05:22] <enigma32> NickGarvey: yes. If I try to do any of the options on the alternate version CD then I get a splotchy white screen
[05:22] <tehArtist> SOB!!!
[05:22] <tehArtist> haha
[05:22] <theflyingfool> i have tried about 10-15 times tonight with the same error in differnt places all night
[05:22] <tehArtist> I figured out my error and why i was having such a hard time
[05:22] <tehArtist> newbie me was typing /root
[05:22] <tehArtist> haha
[05:22] <NickGarvey> enigma32, while installing?
[05:22] <tehArtist> instead of just leaving the "/" and clicking forward
[05:22] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, yeah that would do it :)
[05:23] <po0f> tehArtist: We've all been there..  ok, maybe not "there".
[05:23] <Menisk> Do belkin WiFi cards work with ubuntu?
[05:23] <tehArtist> HAHA
[05:23] <carkeys> mensik: depends on chipset
[05:23] <tehArtist> I havent used a Linux Distro of any kind since XP sp2 was released
[05:23] <enigma32> NickGarvey: As soon as I leave the boot menu on the CD. The regular liveCD will boot and run fine but will die at different places inthe install (always before copying any data)
[05:23] <Menisk> Will the arthros chipset work?
[05:23] <NickGarvey> Menisk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[05:23] <theflyingfool> did edgy have a live cd released, i think im going to try and install off a live cd for once instead of the alternative i use most of the time
[05:23] <tehArtist> And *nix has changed...A LOT since then...
[05:23] <carkeys> IIRC,it should
[05:23] <cafuego_> Menisk: yes
[05:23] <carkeys> what card do youhave?
[05:23] <Music_Shuffle> Edgy has a LiveCD.
[05:23] <po0f> tehArtist: Geez, what took you so long to come back?
[05:23] <NickGarvey> theflyingfool, yes
[05:23] <Menisk> Thanks nickgarvey
[05:24] <sladen> enigma32: you can use text-only *and* disable the framebuffer
[05:24] <Menisk> Thanks cafuego
[05:24] <NickGarvey> cafuego_, your answer was better heh
[05:24] <tehArtist> Well, I develop mostly in 3ds MAX, and that is DX native...
[05:24] <cafuego_> Menisk: Well, to the best of my knowledge all atheros chipsets work. Mine do anyway :-)
[05:24] <tehArtist> but now I'm switching to maya..and since thats openGL
[05:24] <NickGarvey> mine does too
[05:24] <jewbilee> Is it possible to use programs meant for KDE in Gnome?
[05:24] <Menisk> :P
[05:24] <tehArtist> I would get better performance in *nix
[05:24] <po0f> jewbilee: Yes.
[05:24] <NickGarvey> jewbilee, yes, install it just like you normally would
[05:24] <theflyingfool> has anyone tried the x64 version
[05:24] <bruenig> jewbilee, sudo apt-get install whatever you want
[05:25] <VMT2007> jewbilee: it won't look nicely but it'll run well
[05:25] <NickGarvey> theflyingfool, I did, it worked, but I suggest the 32 bit
[05:25] <cafuego_> theflyingfool: only yesterday, yes.
[05:25] <ianthepetrock> I have just installed webalizer from apt, how do i access it?
[05:25] <tehArtist> and Ubuntu just seemed like the best alternative for me to 're-educate' myself in the *nix environment
[05:25] <bruenig> it looks fine
[05:25] <jewbilee> Alright, just wondering, what media player do you all use for music?
[05:25] <VMT2007> Banshee
[05:25] <NickGarvey> jewbilee, mplayer
[05:25] <madman91> can I UMOUNT my /home partition and use gparted to make it bigger ... while being logged in?
[05:25] <bruenig> default rhythmbox woo
[05:25] <po0f> madman91: Use the GParted live CD instead.
[05:25] <enigma32> sladen: How do I disable the framebuffer? Is it a command line option when loading the kernel?
[05:25] <NickGarvey> madman91, you can't umount a partition you need to use, try a live cd
[05:25] <maheanuu_> theflying fool, I am running the 64 bit alternate version now
[05:25] <NickGarvey> madman91, gparted cd is good, like po0f said
[05:25] <bruenig> jewbilee, you should try listen if you are thinking of amarok, http://listengnome.free.fr/
[05:26] <madman91> NickGarvey: I will just use the ubuntu live cd..
[05:26] <VMT2007> banshee is awesome
[05:26] <madman91> thanks po0f and NickGarvey
[05:26] <jewbilee> yes, amarok was what i was hoping for
[05:26] <tehArtist> Its taken me 2 freaking days to get the HP m7160n Media Center to accept this Ubuntu install..but it looks as if its finally gonna make it =D
[05:26] <jewbilee> Also, I was able to make mp3s work, but I am unaware what I actually did....
[05:26] <Clinton__> Alright, how do I prevent shift and backspace from resetting X?
[05:26] <jewbilee> Is there anyway I can check?
[05:26] <po0f> Clinton__: Don't use beryl.  ;P
[05:26] <NickGarvey> Clinton__, just shift and backspace?
[05:26] <NickGarvey> ah
[05:27] <VMT2007> Clinton__: is Obama going to be you running mate after all?
[05:27] <Clinton__> po0f: I don't have beryl installed
[05:27] <Clinton__> NickGarvey: yes, just shift and backspace
[05:27] <po0f> Clinton__: Really?  That's weird; have you used it at any point?
[05:27] <jewbilee> Does anyone know how I can check what I did that made mp3s work?
[05:27] <theflyingfool> what is a debootstrap warning??
[05:27] <Clinton__> po0f: a friend of mine might have tried to install it, but I don't think it worked
[05:27] <VMT2007> jewbilee: did you install mpg123
[05:28] <NickGarvey> jewbilee, you probably installed the package
[05:28] <Clinton__> po0f: what packages can I look for to see if it is installed?
[05:28] <jewbilee> How can I check that?
[05:28] <elbeto> Problem here: nothing happen after login. Brown screen, can move the mouse but nothing else happens
[05:28] <noiesmo> Clinton__, Add this to your code after gnome-window-decorator & in your start up script  > xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server"
[05:28] <po0f> Clinton__: beryl-core off the top of my head, there are like 10 other pakcages though.
[05:28] <Clinton__> dpkg -l | grep -i beryl results in .. nothing
[05:29] <elbeto> Problem here: nothing happen after login. Brown screen, can move the mouse but nothing else happens
[05:29] <Clinton__> noiesmo: what exactly does that do?
[05:29] <joink> hi, i cant install any program
[05:29] <NickGarvey> elbeto, did you try the failsafe?
[05:29] <enigma32> How do I disable the framebuffer on the text-mode install?
[05:29] <VMT2007> joink: what are you trying to install
[05:30] <joink> am trying to install iptalbes and another packs but i cant
[05:30] <po0f> joink: Error?
[05:30] <NickGarvey> enigma32, it is probably a boot switch, it would be under one of the menus at the start I would think-
[05:30] <VMT2007> uh
[05:30] <VMT2007> it comes with iptables
[05:30] <theflyingfool> i am so close to throwing my desktop out a window
[05:30] <VMT2007> did you download RPM packages or something
[05:30] <joink> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:30] <noiesmo> Clinton__, thats the shift backspace fix for beryl/compiz > xmodmap
[05:30] <po0f> theflyingfool: What a waste, donate it instead.
[05:30] <Clinton__> noiesmo: ah OK, just checking ( I like to know )
[05:30] <jewbilee> How can I check if i've installed mpg123?
[05:30] <elbeto> failsafe? There are two kinds of failsafe so which one should I use?
[05:31] <VMT2007> yes they need as many useless machines in the build pool as they can get
[05:31] <gili> hello. Happy new year
[05:31] <VMT2007> yes I said that
[05:31] <doviende> joink: what command did you type?
[05:31] <bruenig> jewbilee, do sudo apt-get install mpg123
[05:31] <NickGarvey> gili, you too :)
[05:31] <maheanuu_> What are you running flying fool?
[05:31] <gili> i have a question about SoundJuicer...
[05:31] <Clinton__> noiesmo: there's jsut one problem, I don't start beryl anywhere, I start gdm
[05:31] <joink> apt-get install XXXXX
[05:31] <NickGarvey> Clinton__, beryl would start automatically
[05:31] <gili> does anyone use that?
[05:31] <noiesmo> Clinton__, aah ok thought you had beryl my mistake :(
[05:31] <doviende> joink: try   sudo apt-get -f install
[05:31] <NickGarvey> gili, ask your question, maybe someone will know even if they don't use it
[05:31] <doviende> joink: that could fix some problems
[05:32] <gili> ok
[05:32] <NickGarvey> !justask
[05:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:32] <Clinton__> noiesmo: no problem, what might the next option be?
[05:32] <NickGarvey> :)
[05:32] <jewbilee> bruenig: It installed it, so what made mp3's work before hand?
[05:32] <joink> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/200/
[05:32] <tehArtist> man..they have made *nix/Ubuntu soo idiot proof...
[05:32] <bruenig> jewbilee, well it wasn't mpg123
[05:32] <po0f> jewbilee: gst-plugins-ugly?
[05:32] <VMT2007> tehArtist: not really
[05:32] <bruenig> jewbilee, yeah one of the gstreamers
[05:32] <gili> ok ok i get it keep your nickers on geesh.....i want to get mp3 and mpc support for sound juicer
[05:32] <jewbilee> poOf: how can I check?
[05:32] <tehArtist> I'm just waiting for the Mac smiley face/frown face to pop up if i do something I shouldn't lol
[05:32] <maheanuu_> theflyingfool, what hardware and distro are you using / trying to use?
[05:33] <jewbilee> I dont know how to check if they are installed
[05:33] <VMT2007> anyone who messes around with the `dd` command as root is going to be in for a surprise
[05:33] <joink> i used but he tryes to install and after broke
[05:33] <bruenig> !restricted | jewbilee
[05:33] <ubotu> jewbilee: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:33] <idleone> !mp3 | gili
[05:33] <ubotu> gili: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:33] <po0f> jewbilee: Just search for it in Synaptic.
[05:33] <bruenig> jewbilee, that page, the first one should tell you
[05:33] <noiesmo> Clinton__, in gnome maybe change options in but not 100% sure sorry System > Preferences > Keyboard > Layout Options
[05:33] <jewbilee> bruenig: thanks, but ive read that a lot
[05:33] <Clinton__> noiesmo: alright, I'll give that a shot
[05:33] <elbeto> Nick: when I try to use the failsafe it says Could not find GNOME installation. Running the "Failsafe xterm" instead
[05:34] <gili> idleone: i said mp3
[05:34] <jewbilee> i understand whats going on and why I need to do this, and ive attempted in the past, but I dont remember what i did that worked
[05:34] <bruenig> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly.
[05:34] <ubotu> Package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly. does not exist in any distro I know
[05:34] <VMT2007> why in the hell does sensible-browser default to firefox, ugh
[05:34] <bruenig> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[05:34] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly: GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.4-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 512 kB
[05:34] <po0f> jewbilee: If you can get MP3s to play, you have liblame installed.
[05:34] <VMT2007> galeon rather
[05:34] <theflyingfool> does anybody have any idea why libgcrypt11 would be currupt
[05:34] <jewbilee> poOf: is that a package?
[05:34] <idleone> gili: ubotu gave you a link that will help you to get mp3 working
[05:34] <gili> i have mp3 working
[05:35] <po0f> jewbilee: I don't know the exact package name, but it's close.
[05:35] <gili> that wasnt my question
[05:35] <jewbilee> po0f: alright, thanks
[05:35] <carutsu> hello, i need Arial font, how can i install it?
[05:35] <jewbilee> Now, can anyone explain the difference between Edgy and Dapper?
[05:35] <idleone> gili:  then I did not understand your question. sorry. and keep your knickers on :P
[05:35] <gili> i want to get soundjuicer to rip mp3's......do i need to add it manually
[05:36] <bruenig> !info msttcorefonts
[05:36] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[05:36] <gili> :-)
[05:36] <stephans> hi
[05:36] <idleone> gili:  use gnomebaker or K3B for that
[05:36] <po0f> jewbilee: 'liblame0' for Edgy.
[05:36] <stephans> how am i supposed to keep clam av up to date in ubuntu
[05:36] <stephans> ?
[05:36] <noiesmo> !freshclam
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freshclam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <jewbilee> po0f: what is edgy?
[05:37] <carutsu> oh, ok thanks
[05:37] <po0f> jewbilee: Ubuntu 6.10
[05:37] <VMT2007> jewbilee: ubuntu 6.10
[05:37] <gili> yeah....i guess thats an option...i just like the soundjuicer interface... was hoping to keep using that
[05:37] <bruenig> stephans, are you running a server or something
[05:37] <jewbilee> so what does that make dapper?
[05:37] <stephans> clam says that I need to update the program version from finction level 6 - 9
[05:37] <gili> i use ripperX
[05:37] <po0f> 6.06
[05:37] <stephans> server yes...
[05:37] <jewbilee> alright
[05:37] <po0f> jewbilee: Or 6.06.1 for LTS
[05:37] <jewbilee> so what is 6.2
[05:37] <stephans> bruenig: yes i have ubuntu server
[05:37] <VMT2007> unedgy
[05:37] <VMT2007> or not
[05:37] <po0f> jewbilee: It's Y.MM release versioning for ubuntu.
[05:38] <bruenig> stephans, yeah my hope was that you said no you weren't and then I could tell you that it probably wasn't important, but yeah you see how that worked out for me
[05:38] <stephans> and clam is complaining in the log files...
[05:38] <carutsu> after that where can i get the fonts from?
[05:38] <jewbilee> po0f: what do you mean?
[05:38] <stephans> bruenig: what happened to you?
[05:38] <po0f> jewbilee: There is no Ubuntu 6.2
[05:38] <slicky> i have problem in bash, cant make it sound like farting
[05:39] <jewbilee> po0f: woops
[05:39] <stephans> bruenig: that did not work out?
[05:39] <gili> has anyon here had luck gett thi TI built in card reader to work....
[05:39] <bruenig> stephans, nevermind, I have no idea how to fix your problem, I have never used any antivirus
[05:39] <po0f> jewbilee: The first number is the last digit of the year the release was released, the last two digits are the month.
[05:39] <jewbilee> po0f: and you are correct, i do have liblame0 installed
[05:39] <slicky> stickyicky:  ;D
[05:39] <gili> sorry.....has anyone had luck getting the TI card reader working...? I have followed the links on the guide page to no avail
[05:39] <stephans> bruenig: well it is a mail server and server windows users... so the need some extra protection
[05:39] <glyn> how do I change my system clock?
[05:40] <po0f> stephans: Let evolution take it's course.  ;)
[05:40] <bruenig> carutsu, well the actual fonts are located at /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[05:40] <jewbilee> po0f: i just launched mozilla and i says welcome to 6.06, i thought i had 6.10
[05:40] <ImBrian> has anyone here experienced an "API mismatch" when using NVidia's driver (as opposed to the ones in the apt repository)?  I get that error for X after each reboot.
[05:40] <stephans> po0f: he!
[05:40] <carutsu> bruenig so they are already there?
[05:40] <bruenig> carutsu, did you do sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[05:40] <bruenig> !version
[05:40] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[05:40] <bruenig> jewbilee, do what ubotu just said
[05:41] <carutsu> bruenig yep its installing it
[05:41] <jewbilee> thanks
[05:41] <MBohrer14> I'm trying to figure out which HD to install ubuntu on, the only problem is that the 2 hd's i have are the same name.... how can I tell which is which?
[05:41] <glyn> Anyone able to help me change my system clock please?  it is off
[05:41] <VMT2007> what's with the subcodenames
[05:41] <jewbilee> yea, im running dapper
[05:41] <VMT2007> like "eft"
[05:41] <VMT2007> "elk"
[05:41] <po0f> bruenig: Or, just remember what version you installed.  :D
[05:41] <jewbilee> is it necessary to upgrade to edgy?
[05:41] <gili> I have the TI PCIXX21 card reader....trying to get it to read
[05:41] <jewbilee> or suggested atleast
[05:41] <po0f> jewbilee: If it's not broke, don't fix it.
[05:41] <bruenig> jewbilee, I think it is actually suggested that you don't
[05:41] <elkbuntu> VMT2007, codenames can consist of more than two words, you know
[05:42] <jewbilee> hahah
[05:42] <jewbilee> ok
[05:42] <VMT2007> sure if you want to download a hundred packages from synaptic
[05:42] <jewbilee> thanks a lot guys!
[05:42] <elkbuntu> s/two/one/
[05:42] <gili> i have followed the guide but cant get the system to pick up my old SM card....has anyone succeeded in doing this...???
[05:42] <bruenig> although I have had a great time with edgy, lot of bad stories have come out
[05:42] <carutsu> bruenig does it install them by itself?
[05:43] <glyn> Anyone able to help me change my system clock please?  it is off would appreciate any help
[05:43] <bruenig> carutsu, yeah
[05:43] <theflyingfool> would having network enabled during install have any effect on how well the process goes or not
[05:43] <carutsu> bruenig thank you
[05:43] <carutsu> glyn how do you want to change the clock if the pc is off?
[05:44] <po0f> theflyingfool: Yes.  You get up-to-date packages with a network install.
[05:44] <VMT2007> i hope they call the next one ferret.
[05:44] <gili> idleone:I have the TI PCIXX21 card reader....trying to get it to read using the guid...but no luck...do u kow anyhthing about that
[05:44] <po0f> VMT2007: Feisty fawn.
[05:44] <glyn> I Just want to set it right
[05:44] <idleone> gili: no clue what that even is sorry :/
[05:44] <theflyingfool> po0f could using networking during install be causing my problems or not
[05:44] <glyn> but I don't know how
[05:44] <VMT2007> :\
[05:44] <gili> ok
[05:44] <gili> thanks
[05:45] <passwordissaman> hi, how do i know if i have my video card driver installed
[05:45] <po0f> theflyingfool: I had no problems browsing the forums during my install.
[05:45] <idleone> gili: try google might be a forum post or something on it
[05:45] <passwordissaman> when i move the page it is pretty edgy, and laggy...
[05:45] <theflyingfool> im not using a livecd,
[05:45] <meleeglow> can anyone tell me were to get the nvidia drivers for ubuntu
[05:45] <idleone> !nvidia
[05:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:45] <levander> passwordissaman: it's installed if you have a picture on your monitor
[05:45] <cybercod> meleeglow... you want the proprietary ones?
[05:45] <sladen> glyn: System->Adminstration->Time and Date
[05:45] <gili> alright////cheers
[05:45] <glyn> thanks
[05:45] <gili> happy new years to all......
[05:45] <jewbilee> I was able to install amarok using synaptic and its looks great!
[05:45] <levander> passwordissaman: actually, you need an X-windows picture on your monitor
[05:46] <LameBMX> lol
[05:46] <levander> jewbilee: you are using kubuntu, or you decided to use amarok on top of GNOME?
[05:46] <jewbilee> Gnome
[05:46] <bruenig> jewbilee, no listen?