[11:19] <FloodBot4> cbush15: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:19] <yoshilove> nevermind i got it.
[11:19] <erUSUL> biberao: uninstall the kernels you do not longer need
[11:19] <yoshilove> i wanted to add a custom launcher to the top panel.
[11:19] <yoshilove> so i could strip off all the unnecessary stuff.
[11:19] <suigeneris> my gnome menu is gone. can anyone help me get it back?
[11:19] <cbush15> ????
[11:19] <conb123> Licuadora: Graphics cards are for better rendering of 3d graphics, the gpu processes all the 3d data, they are not only for gaming, they just work well for gaming since games use 3d graphics
[11:19] <yoshilove> and just an icon instead.
[11:19] <biberao> erUSUL but the issue it happens the same
[11:19] <erUSUL> yoshilove: right click on the panel. choose add to panel
[11:19] <biberao> no simple lines
[11:19] <peterva> Ola, perhaps maybe someone here can help me out. On my install of 10.04 I have configured ipv6, all seems to be okay, but for some reason the server keeps adding 'default via fe80::1:1' to my routes, which seems to mess up my ipv6 config
[11:19] <yoshilove> yeah, i didn't realize there was the command to change it's icon.
[11:19] <blackshirt> yoshilove: yes, exactly..you can modify it
[11:19] <yoshilove> thanks. o/
[11:20] <amarcolino> burhan, thanks that saved me a lot of time, going to check it out
[11:20] <intick> hi everyboy
[11:20] <Licuadora> conb123, The technology still uses the CPU for 3d modeling, at least in opensource
[11:20] <intick> i've got a fast question, how cn i reduce space between gnome desktop icone ?
[11:20] <easy_enemy> how can I install windows xp on my harddrive while ubuntu is installed?
[11:20] <burhan> Licuadora: unless you use a CUDA-enabled card :)
[11:21] <Eltu> intick: ...drag them away from each other? :P
[11:21] <burhan> easy_enemy: use vmware and install it in a virtual machine
[11:21] <Licuadora> Anyway... So, I need the source code to compile Ubuntu and flag the CPU, eh?
[11:21] <blackshirt> easy_enemy: just install your windows...likes usually
[11:21] <conb123> Licuadora: Yes the CPU plays a part in rendering 3D graphics yes, but the majority of the load will be passed onto the GPU
[11:21] <burhan> Licuadora: no, compiling Ubunutu won't do you any good.
[11:21] <burhan> Licuadora: you need to compile the actual program (like say Blender).
[11:22] <Licuadora> burhan,  Oh, I get it
[11:22] <burhan> Licuadora: because Ubuntu doesn't do any rendering.
[11:22] <C_hris> If my windows partion still exists but there is no grub option how can I boot to windows?
[11:22] <easy_enemy> my windows cd wont run.. once I open my PC it goes directly to GRUB.. even thou I press f12 or DEL it wont respond
[11:22] <tuxnani> has anyone tested broadband net connection in ubuntu 10.10?
 :o would take ages t do taht  !
[11:22] <tuxnani> has anyone tested dsl broadband net connection in ubuntu 10.10?
[11:22] <tuxnani> has anyone tested dsl broadband internet connection in ubuntu 10.10?
[11:22] <Licuadora> burhan,  Does Ubuntu takes advantage of all of the CPU features?
[11:22] <burhan> C_hris: add it to grub :)
[11:22] <RobbieAcePreshaw> hi is it posbule moveing my HDD to an new pc i have 9.10 10.04 and kubntu
[11:23] <yoshilove> what's anyones alternative for WLM?
[11:23] <erUSUL> !alternatives
[11:23] <Jiwe> Why can Ubuntu KDE access windows share and Ubuntu Gnome just keeps asking for user and pw?
[11:23] <burhan> Licuadora: again, Linux doesn't need to take advantage of "all" the CPU features. For example, things like PAE which are useful are available in separate kernels; things like MMX/MMX2/SSE/SSE2 don't really apply to linux.
[11:23] <Eltu> intick: actually - as far as I know, you can't reduce the spacing.  I deleted the NetworkManager because it stoped working - I had a red signal on the icon -
[11:24] <hyperstream> !ftpd
[11:24] <Daniela_> Hello, how can I replace a program by starting an other one which is the same?
[11:24] <SwedeMike> RobbieAcePreshaw: generally that works just fine, ubuntu discovers most things upon boot.
[11:24] <burhan> AdvoWork: nope, just needs a valid shell.
[11:24] <Licuadora> Now I do not have any internet in my PC
[11:24] <hyperstream> !ftp > hyperstream
[11:24] <me_> Hi all. I have problem with locating iso's mount point. I just clicked on it in nautilus and it mounted somewhere thou I can't find it in 'mount' output.
[11:24] <RobbieAcePreshaw> so can i move it to my new lappy
[11:25] <RobbieAcePreshaw> !caps
[11:25] <yoshilove> you guys are confusing.
[11:25]  * yoshilove grins.
 mmm i ve bein able to do some cool thing with gconf editor like text limitation under icon ect.. but didn tfind anything about spacing icons :/
[11:25] <Licuadora> Is there a way to make Ubuntu recongnize my PCI wifi card again?
[11:25] <hyperstream> Whats the default ftpd for ubuntu ? or preferred standard?
[11:25] <burhan> Licuadora: networkmanager is just an interface, deleting it won't delete the drivers for your wifi card. Just run the hardware driver wizard again.
[11:26] <Licuadora> burhan,  How do I do that?
[11:26] <burhan> there's an option in the System menu ... forgot where exactly.
[11:26] <beginner> hi someone speak french?
[11:26] <Licuadora> burhan,  I do not have any Network Manager icon
[11:26] <hyperstream> !best > hyperstream
[11:26] <juk> !fr | beginner
[11:26] <beginner> im beginner fot backtrack
[11:26] <phasma> hyperstream: your choice. I personally use vsftpd
[11:27] <beginner> merci
[11:27] <Licuadora> There is some ping option, but that never works
[11:27] <hyperstream> phasma, thanks bud
[11:27] <phasma> np
[11:27] <cvrse> Licuadora, can you restart network manager with sudo service network-manager restart ?
[11:27] <easy_enemy> guys how can I uninstall ubuntu?
[11:27] <burhan> hyperstream: if you want truly minimal, the openssh server has built in support for SFTP.
[11:27] <Licuadora> cvrse. let me try that
[11:27] <burhan> easy_enemy: reboot your machine with the install media of whatever you want.
[11:28] <burhan> hyperstream: since FTP is plain text, I personally avoid it whenever I can.
[11:28] <yoshilove> ummmmmmm.
[11:28] <Licuadora> cvrse,  Unknown instance
[11:28] <hyperstream> burhan, agreed :)
[11:28] <Licuadora> cvrse,  *sigh* I am gonna have to re install
[11:28] <juk> Dr_Willis: can i ask you question about git?
[11:28] <easy_enemy> windows wont recognize my HDD anymore since its on a different format
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> juk:  i cant recall ever useing git. :)
[11:29] <eigar> chitragupt: what about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD ...
[11:29] <cvrse> Licuadora, does the card show up in lspci or ifconfig -a?
[11:29] <burhan> easy_enemy: you can format it from the Windows installer.
[11:29] <easy_enemy> Is there like  a partition manager on ubuntu?
[11:29] <Licuadora> cvrse,  yes
[11:29] <C_hris> SO I tried adding windows to menu.lst it didn't show up?
[11:29] <juk> Dr_Willis: #git having hangover
[11:29] <cvrse> Licuadora, what interface is it? wlan0?
[11:29] <burhan> easy_enemy: parted
[11:29] <erUSUL> easy_enemy: System>Admn ...>Partition editor
[11:29] <Licuadora> cvrse,  wlan0
[11:29] <erUSUL> juk: just ask
[11:29] <burhan> C_hris: post your menu.lst
[11:30] <me_> I want to run 'setup.exe' from iso but I need to set 'chmod +x' on it. How can I do it?
[11:30] <yoshilove> can i edit the font and appearance of the Empathy IM client status bar?
[11:30] <C_hris> it started empty
[11:30] <Jiwe> Can someone help me I'm trying to connect to windows share but it doesn't work
[11:30] <blade0_0> easy_enemy, do u want to just access the ubuntu files from windows or remove ubuntu??
[11:30] <cvrse> Licuadora, have u tried manually bringing up the connection? or specifying it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> me_:  easy way is to use the terminal.. 'wine /path/to/cd/whatever.exe'
[11:30] <yoshilove> Indicator Applet Session one, is there a way?
[11:31] <C_hris> burhan, what should I add for windows?
[11:31] <jink> Jiwe: "It doesn't work" is quite a useless description of your problem.
[11:31] <burhan> C_hris: depends on where your Windows partition is.
[11:31] <Licuadora> cvrse,  Yes, it shows in lspci, but I havent tryed to bring it  up  manually... I do not know how
[11:31] <me_> Dr_Willis: I knew this will work but can I set something so I can just
[11:31] <dshbusiness> Hello, guys. I have a problem. I can't get some web page such as www.google.com, if I had turn my computer on 48 hours or more. Why? How to solve it?
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> C_hris:  you are using grub1 or grub2 ?
[11:31] <juk> erUSUL: i was syncing with big repo, and network got interrupted, so git hanged on 99% what to do now?
[11:31] <C_hris> ahh
[11:31] <me_> Dr_Willis: Click in nautilus?
[11:31] <C_hris> I don't know
[11:32] <easy_enemy> I would want ubuntu on my HDD.. but I need to install windows as well.. dual OS
[11:32] <juk> erUSUL: if ^C it it will start over again?
[11:32] <burhan> juk: run the sync command again
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> me_:  its some odd security issue/feature they got in wine. it wont run a exe unless its executable.. and a cd by default does not have files mounted as executable.. catch 22.
[11:32] <jink> Jiwe: Don't /msg me.
[11:32] <me_> Dr_Willis: Still thank You for advice.
[11:32] <C_hris> Dr_Willis, Whats default?
[11:32] <easy_enemy> If I cant do that I would just want to remove ubuntu
[11:32] <C_hris> burhan, how do I find out?
[11:32] <juk> burhan: all over again?
[11:32] <Licuadora> cvrse,  I have : auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[11:32] <burhan> !grub
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> me_:  its been mentioned in the forums and a few other places as a silly bug.. no idea if it will ever change.
[11:32] <dshbusiness> And if I restart my computer, problems gone.
[11:32] <Licuadora> cvrse,  What does that means?
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> C_hris:  what version of ubuntu are you using? did you do a clean isntall?
[11:32] <Jiwe> ubuntu keeps asking for a user and password
[11:32] <geitenneuker> i got a problem with ubunudu
[11:32] <burhan> !grub2 > C_hris
[11:33] <Jiwe> and i put the correct ones
[11:33] <juk> yes all over again :(
[11:33] <burhan> dshbusiness: are you saying that after 48 hours your Internet stops working?
[11:33] <burhan> juk: no, it will resume
[11:33] <erUSUL> juk: :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=716792
[11:33] <Jiwe> Jink: do you know what's the problem?
[11:34] <UndiFineD> sounds like a dhcp issue dshbusiness
[11:34] <cvrse> Licuadora, thats right, just testing something
[11:34] <dshbusiness> burhan: NO. network still working. I just cannot get some certain website. For example, www.google.com.
[11:34] <nebula> Help, please  for MESS 0.140 for ubuntu  download or ppa ?
[11:34] <burhan> me_: run Windows in a virtual machine, that will avoid these "bugs" with wine.
[11:34] <Alinn> Hi
[11:34] <burhan> dshbusiness: what is the error you get?
[11:35] <dshbusiness> burhan: time out
[11:35] <juk> erUSUL: thank you, dear erUSUL
[11:35] <burhan> dshbusiness: this sounds like a restriction from your network and has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> nebula:  why not use a PPA if it exists... err.. that is downloading the debs.. so not sure what youmean by 'download'
[11:35] <Alinn> I newly installed ubuntu 10.10 but it havn't xorg file. can anyone help me?
[11:36] <burhan> Alinn: how did you install it?
[11:36] <dshbusiness> burhan: Perhaps. I can ping www.google.com, but could not get the page. Other pages are ok.
[11:36] <easy_enemy> can I run .exe files on terminal?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> Alinn:  one is not needed by default  normally. X auto configures for themost part.
[11:36] <alkamid> does "@reboot screen -dmS "myscreen" rtorrent" seem like a proper crontab entry?
[11:36] <C_hris> Ok so that guide says run sudo update-grub2
[11:36] <nebula> Dr_Willis,  ops sorry okey ...but  please  help me >?
[11:36] <C_hris> which doesn't detect windows
[11:36] <Alinn> burhan: from CD. fresh install.
[11:36] <C_hris> what can I do?
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> nebula:  help you with what? if mess has a ppa you want to use.. then use it.
[11:37] <burhan> Alinn: the desktop CD?
[11:37] <Alinn> burhan: yes
[11:37] <burhan> Alinn: okay, then what do you need the xorg file for? :)
[11:37] <jink> Jiwe: Well, you maybe didn't use the right ones.  Check the samba logs, and the event logs on the Windows machine.
[11:37] <burhan> dshbusiness: the only thing that could affect this is ipv6 for DNS lookups.
[11:37] <burhan> dshbusiness: you could disable that.
[11:38] <dshbusiness> burhan: I use ipv4. Let me have a try. Thanks
[11:39] <burhan> dshbusiness: ipv6 is enabled by default and this can cause web browsing issues if your DNS resolver is not ipv6 enabled.
[11:39] <Jiwe> jink: I think i know my own username and pw I tried on PclinuxOS and it worked fine there it just doesn't on ubuntu
[11:39] <blackshirt> burhan: how we can disable ipv6 ?
[11:39] <burhan> !ipv6
[11:39] <Alinn> Dr_Willis: burhan:my graphic is onboard. resolution is 1154*864 by default. i want to change it to 1280*1024 but in the System>Preferences>Monitors i can't find 1280*1024
[11:40] <dshbusiness> burhan: could this take effect immediately after I disabled ipv6?
[11:40] <easy_enemy> Is there a program that will uninstall ubuntu?
[11:40] <burhan> dshbusiness: if this was the issue, then yes.
[11:40] <cvrse> Licuadora, are u using WPA-PSK?
[11:40] <jstoone> Do any of you have some knowlage about the network-manager Ceni
[11:40] <blade0_0> need help with netbook edition environment. i cant see the icons in the top or side panel.
[11:40] <burhan> easy_enemy: uninstall ubuntu and install what in its place?
[11:40] <jstoone> Do any of you have some knowlage about the network-manager Ceni
[11:40] <dshbusiness> burhan: I hope so. Thanks.
[11:40] <C_hris> ok I am running lubuntu, I don't think grub2 is default
[11:40] <C_hris> I think its grub
[11:41] <easy_enemy> windows..
[11:41] <jink> Jiwe: So, what about the logs?
[11:41] <C_hris> windows used to be in the grub menu but now it is not
[11:41] <burhan> easy_enemy: just boot from the Windows install DVD and format the hard drive.
[11:41] <jstoone> Do any of you have some knowlage about the network-manager Ceni
[11:41] <easy_enemy> My computer wont boot from CD
[11:41] <Jiwe> jink: i dont know what i am suppose to look in there can you tell me?
[11:42] <easy_enemy> it goes to GRUB right away
[11:42] <burhan> easy_enemy: how did you install ubuntu?
[11:42] <alkamid> does "@reboot screen -dmS "myscreen" rtorrent" seem like a proper crontab entry?
[11:42] <jink> Something like "permission denied" or "Invalid username or password" or whatever.  You can't expect me to do your debugging.  Use your brain and common sense.
[11:42] <jink> Jiwe: ^^^
[11:42] <burhan> alkamid: not to me.
[11:43] <blackshirt> jstoone: any trouble with network-manager ??
[11:43] <dshbusiness> burhan: Oh, it seems that I have to restart my computer after I disable ipv6?
[11:43] <alkamid> burhan, why not?
[11:43] <burhan> dshbusiness: could be.
[11:43] <easy_enemy> download it from the website.. a year ago.. burn image into cd.. boot from cd install..
[11:44] <prymal> easy_enemy: check your bios hasn't defaulted back to boot from hdd first
[11:45] <dshbusiness> burhan: but things will be right after I have restart it, wether or not I have disabled ipv6. perhaps I have to wait for 2 full days to prove this will work : )
[11:45] <easy_enemy> ill give it a try and ill get back to you.. thanks
[11:45] <Alinn> burhan: Can you help me?
[11:45] <Dirty_Snipe> hi all im back
[11:45] <alibo> Hi, I have an ubuntu PC which has a configured bridge. How can I get rid of it? On the internet I only find ways to create them...
[11:46] <Jiwe> jink: i dont know what u want im lost
[11:46] <burhan> alkamid: if rtorrent is not in your path, it won't work.
[11:46] <Eltu> Dynamite.
[11:46] <burhan> dshbusiness: again, I don't think this has to do with ipv6 - it is the only thing that could possibly affect browsing. I think this is a restriction from your ISP.
[11:47] <burhan> Alinn: are you on a laptop?
[11:47] <alkamid> burhan, what about screen?
[11:47] <Alinn> burhan: No. in desktop
[11:48] <nebula> help me the best emulator mame stable and perfect .....10 x
[11:48] <Dirty_Snipe> I have restored from a server snapshot and ran through the instructions at http://randyfay.com/node/63  . Php is now working. But I have the following question. What is the best way to install these modules without buggering it all up  http://paste.ubuntu.com/523804/
[11:48] <burhan> alkamid: for crontab entries, I generally put the entire path to the executable because path information is generally not available.
[11:48] <burhan> Alinn: System > Administration > Additional Drivers
[11:49] <Dirty_Snipe> Im also going to create a new snapshot with php working so I go an inbetween restore point. :)
[11:49] <Dirty_Snipe> got*
[11:49] <dshbusiness> burhan: Oh, I wish this will take effect. If it is a restriction from my isp, why I can visit most other page, except only a few pages?
[11:50] <Alinn> burhan: Graphic is onboard (SIS)
[11:50] <burhan> dshbusiness: who knows, maybe it could be a buggy implementation?
[11:50] <meero> something keeps rewriting my /etc/resolv.conf, what should i do?
[11:51] <burhan> meero: edit your DHCP client settings to ignore DNS resolvers.
[11:51] <grid_> <IP_ADDRESS> what subnet mask is that? <IP_ADDRESS>?
[11:51] <dshbusiness> burhan: : ) It make me headache. I hope I can visit google 48 hours later. many thanks!
[11:51] <burhan> Alinn: did it previously work at 1280x1024?
[11:51] <fridge2> hi
[11:53] <inc0> hi, I have messed up grub installation. I've ran grub-install from grub legacy on root directory with grub 2
[11:53] <meero> burhan: what should i change in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf ... to stop rewriting?
[11:53] <burhan> Dirty_Snipe: you have two other options - either sudo tasksel install lamp-server; or use the free zend server which has this all bundled together along with a nice GUI to manage it.
[11:53] <inc0> got console only after boot
[11:54] <Alinn> burhan: yes. i did this in xorg file with this guide: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ubuntu.ir%2FChangeResolutionwithXorgEdit%3Fhighlight%3D%2528%25D8%25B1%25D8%25B2%25D9%2588%25D9%2584%25D9%2588%25D8%25B4%25D9%2586%2529
[11:54] <yoshilove> arghhh.
[11:54] <inc0> then I installed grub2 in same manner, but still console...grub2 one now
[11:54] <KingChillbill> hi anyone using a console-based ICQ-client? Any suggestions?
[11:54] <yoshilove> what's up with gDesklets??
[11:54] <yoshilove> i installed it, but it wont start up.
[11:55] <Eltu> KingChillbill: haven't used it myself, but I've heard irrsi is the best
[11:55] <Eltu> Oh
[11:55] <Eltu> ICQ, not IRC
[11:55] <Eltu> Nevermind :P
[11:55] <FloodBot4> Eltu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:55] <shucheng> ...
[11:55] <bernardTK> Hey guys, does anyone have any experience with MPD + Sonata?
[11:55] <yoshilove> anyone @ gdesklets part?
[11:56] <pr0mised> hello! my partition / are 100% how can i know where are full?
[11:56] <burhan> meero: you have two options - you can either add your own custom DNS servers (in addition to those that come from the DHCP server) or completely ignore the ones coming from the DHCP server. What option would you like?
[11:56] <Dirty_Snipe> burhan: Thanks, Ill take a snapshot then have a peek at zend server
[11:56] <KingChillbill> Eltu: no problem, irssi is great for irc but there some friends that dont even know about irc
[11:56] <shucheng> where is robot
[11:56] <shucheng> hello
[11:56] <C_hris> fdisk gives me this :http://paste.ubuntu.com/523807/
[11:57] <Balsaq> cael hows that dvd
[11:57] <burhan> pr0mised: Applications > Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer
[11:57] <C_hris> Is there somthing wrong with my NTFS partion?
[11:57] <bounty> test
[11:57] <meero> burhan: i have my own dns server on the same machine, and when /etc/resolv.conf is rewritten, it creates dns querry loop - annoing :-(
[11:57] <shucheng> who know the robot
[11:58] <burhan> meero: so you want to ignore the DNS resolver coming from the DHCP server?
[11:58] <Ease> Can kimpanel works properly on kUbuntu?
[11:59] <burhan> Alinn: /etc/xorg/Xorg.conf should be it, but are you sure it doesn't need specific hardware drivers?
[11:59]  * yoshilove seeks attention again.
[12:00] <meero> burhan: to ignore , would be better
[12:00] <shucheng> I am new here
[12:00] <Alinn> burhan: I didn't install any driver and i changed it.
[12:00] <burhan> meero: remove "domain-name-servers" from the request line.
[12:00] <AbhiJit> !guidelines | shucheng
[12:00] <burhan> Alinn: then edit Xorg.conf
[12:01] <crazy2k> How do I make lp or evince print the same thing two times per paper? (like -o number-up=2, but repeating the first page on the second)
[12:02]  * yoshilove sobs in a corner.
[12:02] <meero> burhan: u mean remove "request ... .... domain-name-servers" ?
[12:02] <meero> burhan: or prepend ....
[12:03] <Alinn> burhan: Thanks a lot :)
[12:04] <Kalidarn> what's the best way to find out why my CPU usage is spiking?
[12:04] <Kalidarn> using ps/top or a process manager
[12:04] <Kalidarn> isn't showing me
[12:04] <burhan> meero: remove only "domain-name-servers" if you remove the entire request line, your DHCP client won't work :P
[12:04] <Kalidarn> im getting masive spikes from like 0, 32 60 95 and its very annoying
[12:04] <burhan> Kalidarn: how do you know it is?
[12:04] <Kalidarn> because i can feel it is
[12:05] <Kalidarn> and the plugin i have in KDE is showing me that its spiking on cores
[12:05] <Kalidarn> i can see it in the graph its spiking on different cores
[12:05] <burhan> Kalidarn: maybe its your hard disk ... generally hard disk read problems are the main cause of slow response.
[12:05] <Kalidarn> its not doing I/O
[12:05] <Kalidarn> and im running off a quite new OCZ Vertex 2 SSD
[12:05] <burhan> Kalidarn: my machine runs at 99% CPU all the time without problems in responsiveness - however, try copying 30GB of files around, and then it slows down.
[12:06] <shucheng> hi all
[12:06] <meero> burhan: i understand, but there are "request" and "prepend" directives , both containing domain-name-servers
[12:06] <Kalidarn> burhan: im not copying files and its just becomes all laggy when the cpu spikes
[12:06] <Kalidarn> Xorg appears to jump to maybe 8%
[12:06] <burhan> meero: the prepend one will be commented out (start with a #)
[12:06] <Kalidarn> but that shouldnt cause massive spikes
[12:06] <burhan> Kalidarn: does it spike or stay at 100%?
[12:06] <meero> burhan: thanks man :-) i try it out
[12:06] <Kalidarn> in the graph that shows each core and the activity
[12:06] <Kalidarn> i find i get lag just typing sometimes
[12:07] <databits> can someone help me out with some permission issues that I am experiencing
[12:07] <burhan> Kalidarn: what's your CPU and how much memory?
[12:07] <databits> I have apache setup, and the default dir is /var/www
[12:07] <Kalidarn> looi have 6GB of RAM in tripple channel and a i7 930
[12:07] <databits> I am able to serv pages as long as the user and group permissions are www-data:www-data
[12:07] <Kalidarn> i do not get this problem in windows
[12:08] <burhan> do you get it with gnome? =]
[12:08] <databits> the issue I am having is I am trying to set it up so I can upload from ftp to the directory
[12:08] <Kalidarn> burhan: i haven't tried :P
[12:08] <Kalidarn> changing desktop environment is not the answer
[12:08] <bill> ciao
[12:08] <Kalidarn> i want to find out what is causing it
[12:08] <Kalidarn> and then try to fix it
[12:08] <burhan> Kalidarn: the other answer is your computer setup is crap :P
[12:08] <Kalidarn> burhan: your a fucking noob
[12:08] <databits> apache is giving me an permission denied error due to the different permissions the files are taking when being uploaded from ftp
[12:08] <Kalidarn> that is not a solution :P
[12:08] <Kalidarn> sorry
[12:09] <databits> how would I go about setting it up so apache will be able to serv the files that are uploaded from ftp ?
[12:09] <Kalidarn> if your going to open your mouth or bother typing be constructive
[12:09] <grid_> <IP_ADDRESS> what subnet mask do i need for this ip?
[12:09] <Kalidarn> im asking for ways to try to diagnose what process is taxing the CPU
[12:09] <burhan> Kalidarn: I'm a noob? You are the one who can't make your SuperComputer work.
[12:09] <burhan> Kalidarn: you use ps or top
[12:09] <Kalidarn> burhan: your telling me to change desktop environment, and that does not fix the bug
[12:09] <Kalidarn> yeah i have burhan its not showing the process either
[12:09] <burhan> Kalidarn: if its a bug, then its in some app in your DM.
[12:10] <Kalidarn> the only process that seems to be spiking to say 10% is Xorg
[12:10] <Kalidarn> and i doubt it's that
[12:10] <Untouchab1e> Hi
[12:10] <burhan> Kalidarn: are you running top as root?
[12:10] <Kalidarn> also i have bugger all open :P
[12:10] <Kalidarn> burhan: yes
[12:10] <Untouchab1e> I got a HP EliteBook 8540w here..
[12:10] <dtdawei> hello
[12:10] <Untouchab1e> and Linux, regardless of distro wont boot or install
[12:10] <Untouchab1e> I just get a garbled screen
[12:10] <burhan> Kalidarn: are you running beta hardware drivers for your video card?
[12:10] <Kalidarn> nope, nvidia proprietary
[12:10] <Kalidarn> and i've disabled blur
[12:11] <Untouchab1e> actually, I can boot up a live distro, but I still get the garbled screen
[12:11] <Kalidarn> the problem is it's obviously something graphical
[12:11] <Kalidarn> but i doubt it's Xorg itself.
[12:11] <burhan> databits: change the permission mask. It seems default permissions on that directory are what causing your problem. Should be 655 for files.
[12:11] <Goodgame> hello
[12:12] <Sniffy> hey guys. hope someone is willing to help a *nix noob. i've just checked in some source through subversion. where would it be placed?
[12:12] <burhan> Kalidarn: try rolling back to a different version of the driver. Any "EE" in your Xorg log?
[12:12] <databits> I can get the files to work if I constantly change the permissions
[12:12] <Untouchab1e> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/lX-UhvOUTGyitq6K9JywLyhGwsMxDdNzEODX2Rnfok4?feat=directlink
[12:12] <burhan> Sniffy: checked in or out?
[12:12] <Goodgame> is this http://ubuntuforums.org/ the major forum for (k)(x)(l)ubuntu?
[12:12] <Sniffy> checked in
[12:12] <databits> but I want to set it up so I can just upload, then proceed to rock and roll
[12:12] <Sniffy> doesn't seem to specify where it actually is
[12:12] <Sniffy> just the directory pathing
[12:13] <Sniffy> probably obvious to someone that isn't a noob
[12:14] <Goodgame> is this http://ubuntuforums.org/ the major forum for (k)(x)(l)ubuntu?
[12:15] <burhan> Sniffy: in the repository's file location. Are you the owner of the repo?
[12:15] <burhan> databits: what user are using to upload the files?
[12:15] <Kalidarn> right now Xorg is idling on between 20% CPU and 18%
[12:15] <Kalidarn> i'd say its some graphical app causing it
[12:15] <Kalidarn> kwin is on about 4-6 that's fine, and a few apps ive got open every now and again use 1 or 2% or maybe 4
[12:15] <Kalidarn> somewhere in between
[12:15] <burhan> Kalidarn: by lag you mean your mouse doesn't move, keyboard doesn't work?
[12:15] <burhan> Kalidarn: or stuff doesn't open as quickly.
[12:15] <Kalidarn> i've tried checking logs but it hasn't revealed anything incorrectly occuring
[12:15] <FloodBot4> Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:15] <Kalidarn> burhan: by lag i mean just general unresponsiveness
[12:15] <FloodBot4> burhan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:15] <Kalidarn> lagging during input
[12:15] <burhan> Kalidarn: if you've eliminated the hardware driver issue, and hard disk issue - then the only other thing is that some app has a memory leak bug, which causes things to spike. To debug that is beyond my scope. Maybe check KDE forums to see if this is a known issue?
[12:15] <Sniffy> burhan i guess?
[12:16] <Kalidarn> burhan: yeah i have done googling around as i suspected it was KDE
[12:16] <Kalidarn> either kwin, or graphics driver
[12:16] <burhan> Sniffy: Did you setup the repository from where you checked out the files?
[12:16] <Sniffy> basically dude i just typed "svn co svn://svn.zoy.org/caca/pwntcha/trunk pwntcha
[12:16] <Sniffy> " into the terminal
[12:16] <Kalidarn> however, i was only able to find that blur effect causes a problem when used in conjunction with nvidia proprietary drivers
[12:16] <Kalidarn> i might try changing to noveau
[12:16] <burhan> Sniffy: that is checking out not checking in, which is what I asked you the first time.
[12:17] <Eltu> Is there a dedicated IRC channel for Banshee help/support?
[12:17] <Sniffy> bah sorry
[12:17] <Kalidarn> i might also try asking in #xorg
[12:17] <burhan> Sniffy: your files are in 'pwntcha'
[12:17] <burhan> Eltu: try asking in #gnome
[12:18] <sniperjo__> how can i update 9.10 to 10.4 without the internet? ive tried to install from live USB but it always crashed after keyboard selection, no cd drive
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:18] <Sniffy> where is pwntcha? :/
[12:19] <burhan> Sniffy: in the same directory where you where when you typed the command
[12:19] <Sniffy> ah
[12:19] <Sniffy> i'm an idiot
[12:19] <Sniffy> thanks for your patience
[12:20] <burhan> no problem.
[12:22] <Sniffy> anyone able to get svn://svn.zoy.org/caca/pwntcha/trunk pwntcha
[12:22] <Sniffy>  to compile?
[12:24] <cdavis> Is anyone aware of a good project planner that integrates with evolution or other calendar/tasks manager?
[12:24] <burhan> cdavis: most cloud-based ones will - since they all support iCal universally.
[12:30] <databits> can someone help me out with some permission issues with apache please
[12:30] <databits> please message
[12:31] <jpds> !msg | databits
[12:31] <jpds> databits: Maybe try #ubuntu-server instead?
[12:31] <databits> when I ftp files to /var/www directory apache is unable to access files.   I have to go in and manualy change permissions.  I want to get around this.
[12:31] <intick> hi guys ! i've installed parcelite (clipboard) and when i copy somthing from an application and want to past it, it does nothing, i must go on the tray parcelite icon and select what i've copied then past .. pretty long for a simple copy/past
[12:32] <intick> databits: what about giving permissions on /var/www ?
[12:32] <databits> I need to be able to have all my users that are logging onto my ftp, to be able to upload to the web directory.  With apache being able to serv the files
[12:32] <databits> apache is up and running correctly
[12:33] <databits> but the way I am adding files to the /var/www directory is through ftp
[12:33] <databits> when adding files through ftp, the files are taking ownership of that user
[12:33] <intick> databits: you should find help at #ubuntu-server channel !
[12:33] <intick> none can help me plz ?
[12:36] <ilor> hi, I'm looking for a (gnome) screensaver that shows cpu and memory usage. Does anyone know something like it?
[12:36] <giorgio> ciao a tutti
[12:38] <dewyface> hi guys, just download lamp server to ubuntu using tasksel, i have made a vhosts file to point at the correct directory but im getting permissions errors does anyone have any suggesttions
[12:38] <afidegnum> hello good morning, pls what web editor is available on ubuntu line dreamweaver on windows ?
[12:38] <dewyface> use eclipse with PDT
[12:38] <afidegnum> it seems too slow
[12:39] <dewyface> PDT is the php editor plugin for eclipse and is really good
[12:39] <dewyface> so much better than dreamweaver
[12:39] <printf_1> hi i would like to speak with mark shuttleworth about ubuntu
[12:39] <printf_1> is ubuntu 10.10 stable ?
[12:39] <afidegnum> ok, I will be trying it
[12:39] <afidegnum> secondly, how do I find my ubuntu version number on my PC?
[12:39] <dewyface> maybe gedit then, not really meant for that i dont think
[12:40] <dewyface> haha just found this give it a try with gedit http://grigio.org/pimp_my_gedit_was_textmate_linux
[12:40] <afidegnum> ? any answer ?
[12:40] <Eltu> afidegnum: system monitor
[12:40] <Pici> afidegnum: lsb_release -a
[12:40] <printf_1> Ubuntu is so hard to learn
[12:40] <landry> \add server irc.perl.org
[12:40] <afidegnum> ok
[12:41] <dewyface> guys any ideas on my permissions error with my lamp server?
[12:41] <Pici> printf_1: You may want to check out the Ubuntu Manual if you are having difficulties: http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[12:41] <nigelb> dewyface: what exactly happens?
[12:41] <databits> thanks for the help
[12:41] <printf_1> linux_probe: *click*
[12:42] <afidegnum> ok, I can see I have ubuntu 10.04 (lucid)
[12:42] <afidegnum> what si the latest version ?
[12:42] <BernardTK> Hey guys, I for some reason do not have any sound, mp3's and video also do not play at all. ubuntu 10.10
[12:42] <ElNota> afidegnum: 10.10
[12:42] <dewyface> i can browse files, but when it comes to an index.php i get a permissions error. Ive set my group to be with www-data (not sure if that did anything)
[12:42] <ElNota> !maverick | afidegnum
[12:43] <afidegnum> so I have to do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade right ?
[12:43] <creature> Hello. I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.10, and now rdiffbackup thinks my machine is called "localhost6.localdomain6". "hostname" reports the correct hostname. How do I fix it?
[12:43] <afidegnum> ? is that the correct command ?
[12:43] <ElNota> afidegnum: If you want update version go to Updates Manager
[12:44] <dewyface> afidegnum: sudo apt-get update
[12:44] <ElNota> dewyface: No
[12:44] <intick> dewyface: have tried to change permission ?
[12:44] <dewyface> intick: yeah, changed permissions on the folders?
[12:44] <Sir_Diddymus> Hi... switched from openSUSE to Ubuntu 10.10 - everthing's nice, except fonts are so unbelievably ugly. Unusable without anti aliasing. Not even pretty with aa and completely different than e.g. Win.
[12:44] <dewyface> ElNota: ?
[12:44] <Sir_Diddymus> With openSUSE that wasn't an issue. Can this be changed?
[12:45] <Sir_Diddymus> mostly in web browsers it's obvious.
[12:45] <erUSUL> Sir_Diddymus: System>Preferences>Appearance>
[12:45] <abhishek> may anyone please tell me, how can i degrade my version of fglrx driver for ubuntu. When i try to uninstall the current one and install the previous one it gives errors  please help
[12:45] <ElNota> dewyface: apt-get update won't update ubuntu version
[12:45] <abhishek> please anyone
[12:45] <intick> dewyface: i've had similar prob j've just changed permission on /var/www
[12:45] <dewyface> Elnota: yeah cheers sorry was thinking of software
[12:46] <dewyface> intick: how did you do that?
[12:46] <ElNota> It won't too; that's upgrade
[12:46] <ElNota> update only will check if new updates are avaiable, reloading packages-info from repositories
[12:46] <intick> dewyface: ALC
[12:46] <Sir_Diddymus> erUSUL: unfortunately, won't change a thing.
[12:46] <burhan> dewyface: update-manager -d
[12:47] <Pici> burhan: No.
[12:47] <erUSUL> Sir_Diddymus: wrond dpi ¿
[12:47] <erUSUL> wrong dpi?
[12:47] <ElNota> burhan: That isn't necesary
[12:47] <Pici> dewyface: Please do not run the comment suggested by burhan. that is for upgrading to the Development release of Ubuntu, which is not what you want.
[12:47] <BernardTK> Hey guys, I for some reason do not have any sound, mp3's and video also do not play at all. ubuntu 10.10 ( help would be very appreciated :) )
[12:47] <Pici> !upgrade | dewyface correct instructions here
[12:47] <dewyface> haha i dont want to upgrade, i wanna sort permissions for my apache lamp to run sites locally on my machine
[12:48] <dewyface> but thanks :D
[12:48] <Sir_Diddymus> erUSUL: hm... don't think so. Menus etc. are fine, but take a look here: http://i.imgur.com/sQxnC.png
[12:48] <printf_1> im so stoned
[12:48] <Pici> dewyface: Whats wrong with the permissions that are set out of the box?
[12:48] <Pici> printf_1: We don't care.  This channel is for support only.
[12:48] <erUSUL> Sir_Diddymus: that's firefox?
[12:49] <intick> dewyface: right clic on www folder then add the needed permissions
[12:49] <nigelb> dewyface: can you take a screenshot of that error.
[12:49] <dr_spork> Hi everyone, I'm having problems getting my laptop to suspend and hibernate since I upgraded to Maverick. Does anyone have any ideas how I might troubleshoot this problem?
[12:49] <Sir_Diddymus> erUSUL: nope, Opera. Firefox misses those seemingly bold letters, but still nearly the same.
[12:50] <intick> dewyface: what error are you getting ? can you view your website on your browser ?
[12:50] <dewyface> intick: set perms to www-data
[12:50] <solistic> `man use_screen' mentions a `libncursest' that I can not find anywhere. Is the defaul built thread safe? Any idea?
[12:50] <dewyface> pici: could have used out of the box but wanted to customize the location a little
[12:51] <erUSUL> Sir_Diddymus: :( really dunno what is wrong. if you changed the aa settings ( subpixel etc) and that did not change anything then i do not know what to do next
[12:51] <intick> why didnt you keep default folder ?
[12:51] <burhan> dewyface: do you know how to use the concept of sites in ubuntu?
[12:51] <Sir_Diddymus> erUSUL: k... thanx anyway.
[12:51] <dewyface> burhan: no only set up a debian server
[12:51] <dewyface> for online use, i just want a local one
[12:52] <burhan> dewyface: well, its the same. Copy /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to /etc/apache2/sites-available/mysite, then edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/mysite and change the paths. Finally, sudo a2ensite mysite
[12:52] <dewyface> sadly thats exactly what i did
[12:52] <dewyface> haha
[12:52] <burhan> dewyface: and what's the problem?
[12:53] <Roland> how to make the system more responsive when copying large amounts of small files( +30k )
[12:53] <dewyface> burhan: it says i dont have the right permission to view these files
[12:53] <Roland> +30k files
[12:53] <Eltu> Is it possible to make Banshee play .mod and .xm files?
[12:53] <burhan> dewyface: static files?
[12:54] <dewyface> yeah
[12:54] <Roland> I've heard of some alternative kernel but does it work?
[12:54] <ghufran> hi. does anyone know how to install "Mobile Partner" software for Huwavei ?
[12:54] <burhan> ghufran: you don't need it unless you want to send and view SMS messages.
[12:55] <rocket16> Hello all.
[12:55] <dewyface> burhan: any ideas?
[12:55] <ghufran> burhan, i think i do.. i can connect using gnome-ppp but there are other features .. like calling their service number to charge my account ... or change my package settings
[12:55] <Pici> Roland: One option would be to renice the copy process to a higher number.
[12:56] <rocket16> !resetpanels
[12:56] <burhan> dewyface: where did you put the new directory and what perms does it have?
[12:56] <ghufran> burhan, i tried installing it but i keep getting "device unavailable .." message
[12:57] <burhan> ghufran: I'm not aware of any Linux version of that software, but I usually put the card in my mobile to run the USSD commands.
[12:57] <dewyface> burhan /home/dewy/projects set group to www-data then did a sudo chmod -R 2770 /home/dewy
[12:57] <ghufran> i dont have a mobile .. its a usb stick
[12:59] <Propel> what's a cheap, quality mp3 player that is ubuntu compatible?
[12:59] <BernardTK> Can anyone help me please. Sound was working before but now I don't get the welcome sounds when logging in and MP3's don't have any sound either. Youtube videos play, however without any sounds. .avi .wmv etc also do not play. I'm using Ubuntu 10.10. Not sure what has happened :S
[13:00] <Devilz_108> Propel, What do you mean by Ubuntu Compatible?
[13:00] <Devilz_108> BernardTK, Did you do a upgrade?
[13:00] <BernardTK> No, it's fresh 10.10 install
[13:00] <sebsebseb> Propel: get something from Cowen I guess :) or is that Cowan
[13:00] <Devilz_108> When it was working (I know before) but when? what you were using?
[13:01] <BernardTK> umm early tonight
[13:01] <sebsebseb> Propel: anyway nice players, even do open formats such as OGG and FLAC :)
[13:01] <BernardTK> was using rhythm box
[13:01] <Propel> wow, they do FLAC now?
[13:01] <Propel> i just had an old ipod
[13:01] <Propel> really, old. figured i should just invest in a new mp3 player, maybe also a video player.
[13:01] <Devilz_108> BernardTK, Did you restart the PC ?
[13:01] <Propel> but without the hassle of installing itunes
[13:01] <BernardTK> I have restarted several times
[13:01] <sebsebseb> Propel: yeah so get something that supports open formats :)  like from the company I was recommending
[13:02] <Devilz_108> It's weird
[13:02] <sebsebseb> Propel: Ipod and such is not that good,  vender lock in to Apple, very propritary, and that kind of thing
[13:02] <Reliant> I'm trying to update grub to grub2. The docs & installer use a chainloader to try it out, but when I choose the chainloader entry from grub1, instead of showing the grub2 menu, it boots straight into Ubuntu
[13:02] <sebsebseb> Propel: plus newer ones may not work so well with Ubuntu or other Linux distros, and so on
[13:02] <sebsebseb> Reliant: why upgrade from Grub to Grub 2?
[13:02] <Propel> newer ipods, taht is?
[13:02] <BernardTK> I had attempted to setup MPD + Sonata, however that didn't work. Restarted my computer, and now no sound
[13:03] <james_smith73> hello
[13:03] <sebsebseb> Propel: old Ipod will probably work reasonably well,  others may end up being a hassle
[13:03] <Devilz_108> It seems that MPD and Sonata thing is the reason of this problem BernardTK
[13:03] <Propel> oh i see. i might lukc out then. i have a really old ipod
[13:03] <BernardTK> Devilz_108L Yeah, but I can't understand what has changed.
[13:03] <Devilz_108> Something with the drivers mostly BernardTK
[13:04] <Propel> damn, cowons are expensive
[13:04] <BernardTK> Devilz_108, any ideas of what I can do :S?
[13:04] <james_smith73> test
[13:04] <Devilz_108> System > Administration > Hardware Drivers BernardTK , Do you see a driver related to sound?
[13:04] <xerox1> i am thinking of buying a kindle; now i would like to know, how good it works with pdfs; is there any kind of "kindel-simulator" for ubuntu, apart from calibre?
[13:04] <sebsebseb> Propel: yeah probably so, but rather worth it
[13:05] <sebsebseb> Propel: not that many players support open formats :(
[13:05] <Propel> :/
[13:05] <Propel> do you know of other brands?
[13:05] <sebsebseb> Propel: not for decant players that support open formats no, but cowon is what people will normally or always recommend for this
[13:05] <Propel> when you mention older ipods working well, do you mean it could work well with itunes or possibly without itunes?
[13:06] <Propel> ahhh i see
[13:06] <sebsebseb> Propel: you can't run itunes on Ubuntu or other Linux distros
[13:06] <qwd> Propel: you might want to look at the sony readers
[13:06] <Propel> well via wine, you can
[13:06] <sebsebseb> Propel: well maybe in Wine just about for an older verison if you configure properly,  and then of course a Windows virtual  machine would work, with enough RAM and such
[13:06] <BernardTK>        Devilz_108 I don't have Hardware Drivers under Administration :S
[13:06] <sebsebseb> Propel: also Itunes sucks really
[13:07] <Propel> oh ya? how so?
[13:07] <cbush15> root@server01:~# gedit
[13:07] <cbush15> (gedit:15647): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[13:07] <Propel> can you still buy stuff from itunes and DL podcasts?
[13:07] <cbush15> can i have help
[13:07] <sebsebseb> Propel: I woudn't personally buy from it, but  Ubuntu even has the Music Store, you know about that?
[13:07] <Propel> via wine?
[13:07] <Roflan> exit
[13:07] <sebsebseb> Propel: Ubuntu One Music Store
[13:07] <Propel> oh no.
[13:07] <Propel> does it offer the same music form itunes?
[13:07] <Propel> qwd, i'm chekcing out sony readers now, btw. thx
[13:07] <Devilz_108> Weird maybe 10.10 is different than 10.04 , BernardTK  : Under Administration > Try System Testing and test the sound and under Preferences go to Sound
[13:07] <sweb> i can see my localhost ... apache2 start successfully
[13:07] <sebsebseb> Propel: they have a pretty good service provider as far as I know
[13:08] <sweb> :(
[13:08] <qwd> Propel: mobileread has good info on readers
[13:08] <sebsebseb> Propel: if you open up Rythombox look down the left, theres also an add on for Banshee
[13:08] <cbush15> root@server01:~# gedit  (gedit:15647): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[13:08] <cbush15> can i have help
[13:08] <sebsebseb> Propel: they use 7digital
[13:08] <sebsebseb> Propel: theres also the Amazon music store you could buy from,  I think if you install Banshee you get the thing for that by default, if not theres an add on I guess
[13:08] <Propel> oh, i can't really play around with it yet as i have not yet installed ubuntu :P
[13:08] <Propel> still running shit vista
[13:09] <Devilz_108> Ubuntu is amazing Propel :)
[13:09] <sebsebseb> Propel: theres also a whole world of open creative commons music,  yep free as in price, and some of it is very good
[13:09] <Devilz_108> Open Source and CC = Excellent
[13:09] <Propel> so i hear, devilz :)
[13:09] <sebsebseb> Devilz_108: well yes and no, depends on user, and hardware,  however yes most Linux distros big :)
[13:09] <Propel> say, why did you guys decide to install ubuntu?
[13:09] <Propel> my hardware should be more than adequate btw
[13:09] <sebsebseb> Propel: actsually  I am moving on much more to other distros, well have really, but still try out Ubuntu sometimes
[13:09] <Devilz_108> If he is running Vista then I don't think he will have some hardware problems
[13:10] <Devilz_108> Most of the hardware problems are in the old stuff
[13:10] <llutz> cbush15: as user "gksudo gedit <file to open>"
[13:10] <BernardTK> Devilz_108, I did the test and get no audio playback
[13:10] <Propel> really, righ tnow it's down to ubuntu or windows 7. the one problem i have with ubuntu are is the app compatibility issue :/
[13:10] <ElNota> Propel: Because it's a good and easy GNU/Linux dist
[13:10] <Propel> and games
[13:10] <Devilz_108> If you're looking for gaming PC then Ubuntu/Linux isn't yours
[13:10] <Devilz_108> BernardTK, Anyway to fix it? in the program?
[13:10] <Propel> i see
[13:10] <smt> because its free (both, price and source code), reliable, you can get a lot of free and qualified support
[13:10] <Propel> yah, that's the thing, devilz :/
[13:10] <sebsebseb> Propel: however I installed back in 2004, because well Fedora took a bit to long to install on the PC I was using back then, and such
[13:10] <ElNota> Meh, if you want play buy PS3
[13:10] <cbush15> llutz: command not found
[13:10] <BernardTK> nope
[13:10] <dr0id> can someone help me with http://pastie.org/private/m288rdznqav0pb41ckmwa ?
[13:10] <Propel> i love ubuntu, but it's the games and apps that have me worried
[13:10] <Untouchab1e> So what do I do when I need Nvidia drivers to get a display at all? Meaning installation wont work without the drivers
[13:10] <Propel> i've loooked into alternative methods though
[13:11] <burhan> Propel: dual boot
[13:11] <Propel> argh. i hate dual boot :P
[13:11] <Propel> might as well keep windows then :P
[13:11] <sebsebseb> Propel: ok so you got 1GB RAM at least I guess?
[13:11] <Propel> 3GB ram
[13:11] <abhishek> may anyone please tell me, how can i degrade my version of fglrx driver for ubuntu. When i try to uninstall the current one and install the previous one it gives errors
[13:11] <BernardTK> Is there anyway to system restore back to fresh 10.10 instrall lol?
[13:11] <burhan> you shouldn't compromise just because its open source and Linux. If it doesn't do what you want, then why use it?
[13:11] <Propel> expandable to 4GBs, but i don't need it
[13:11] <sebsebseb> Propel: ok virtual machines are in no problem :)
[13:11] <Propel> :)
[13:12] <sebsebseb> Propel: what games?
[13:12] <ElNota> BernardTK: I don't understand you, what are you trying to do?
[13:12] <Devilz_108> BernardTK, Do you know what is your soundcard name? so you might give it a google try?
[13:12] <Propel> really, old games.
[13:12] <Propel> on steam, counter strike.
[13:12] <sweb> some body help me
[13:12] <sebsebseb> Propel: such as?
[13:12] <burhan> BernardTK: yes, install it again from the installation DVD
[13:12] <BernardTK> ElNota, I have sound in at all
[13:12] <Propel> day of defeat, counter strike etc
[13:12] <Devilz_108> ElNota, He installed something but failed to install and fucked up his sound drivers so he got no sound anymore
[13:12] <sebsebseb> Propel: ok
[13:12] <Pici> Devilz_108: Please mind your language here.
[13:12] <Propel> someone here recommended me crossover games
[13:12] <ElNota> Devilz_108: Oh ok
[13:12] <sebsebseb> Propel: Crossover Games is paid for
[13:12] <Propel> http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/2431311/1047782/
[13:12] <burhan> Propel: not worth it, I already tried it out.
[13:12] <sebsebseb> Propel: its propritary software
[13:12] <Propel> oh ya?
[13:12] <Propel> really sucks, burhan?
[13:12] <Pici> !piracy | Propel
[13:12] <FloodBot4> Propel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:12] <dewyface> burhan: all sorted :)
[13:13] <burhan> yeah, back when I was playing WoW
[13:13] <Propel> lol sorry
[13:13] <Propel> i won't paste that again lol
[13:13] <dr0id> can someone help me with http://pastie.org/private/m288rdznqav0pb41ckmwa ?
[13:13] <sebsebseb> Propel: Steam uhmm  a lot of the Ubuntu fans want it on Linux, but I think you can Wine it
[13:13] <Propel> burhan, you ever play steam games?
[13:13] <sebsebseb> Propel: Counter Strike you can probably run in Wine
[13:13] <burhan> Propel: a loong, loong loooong time ago.
[13:13] <Propel> oh yeah, so i've heard. although i heard it really sucks on wine
[13:13] <Devilz_108> You can run a good amount of games in Wine but with a good amount of bugs and crashes
[13:13] <Propel> actually, ppl tell me it's decent or just not playable
[13:14] <dr0id> can someone help me with http://pastie.org/private/m288rdznqav0pb41ckmwa ?
[13:14] <Propel> varying answers
[13:14] <sebsebseb> Propel: theres also a add on app for Wine, called playonlinux which makes installing games a bit easier
[13:14] <abhishek> may anyone please tell me, how can i degrade my version of fglrx driver for ubuntu. When i try to uninstall the current one and install the previous one it gives errors
[13:14] <Propel> oh nice
[13:14] <burhan> dr0id: gedit will only work if you are already logged into gnome. It won't work if you are logged in via SSH or your machine is not running X.
[13:14] <sebsebseb> Propel: or setting them up  properly, or whatever it does, thats in the Ubuntu repo as well
[13:14] <Devilz_108> That's why it's good to have a dual boot Propel , one (Windows) for gaming and Ubuntu for an excellent operating system ;)
[13:14] <burhan> Propel: CS works great in wine, its one of the success stories.
[13:14] <dr0id> burhan: have we talked before? are you the guy with zend certification ?
[13:15] <sebsebseb> Propel: there is an idea that Linux gaming sucks, but that is quite far from the truth,  there are some pretty good games out there for it
[13:15] <Pici> !ot
[13:15] <Propel> good to hear burhan :)
[13:15] <Propel> i'm trying to stay away from the dual boot
[13:15] <burhan> dr0id: I don't think so.
[13:15] <Devilz_108> Why mate ?
[13:15] <Propel> i just know it's gonna get annoying for me
[13:16] <Propel> but i can definitely see it's benefits
[13:16] <jmspeex> Anyone knows what's going on with thunderbird and firefox. Seems like both get updated nearly every day and each time this happens, they just start misbehaving until I restart them. Quite annoying
[13:16] <Devilz_108> Better than to deal with Wine and the games Propel
[13:16] <PJ2> can you help me with enabling talk? http://pastebin.com/hrXa3MtZ
[13:16] <Propel> i guess i ahve to see that for myself. see how bad or how good it is
[13:16] <burhan> jmspeex: security patches can get annoying.
[13:16] <dr0id> Propel: by any chance you are the maker of the propel orm?
[13:16] <Devilz_108> I used to have XP and Ubuntu , but my main computer got broken so I'm using a temperoray one with Ubuntu
[13:16] <sweb> wha'ts the name of apache2 process
[13:16] <sweb> ?
[13:16] <Devilz_108> Yes give it a try
[13:16] <Propel> i keep haering varying answers when i ask ppl on wine. they say it's really good, others say it's crap
[13:16] <Propel> propel orm? lol
[13:16] <Propel> i guess not
[13:17] <PJ2> how can I enable talk? http://pastebin.com/hrXa3MtZ
[13:17] <Good_D_ay> Hello friends, I am using ubuntu as development environment for embedded project on arm9. I have installed the toolchain arm-none-eabi- . When I try to cross compile a simple test program using command "arm-none-eabi-gcc -o test test.c" shows error "/opt/codesourcery/lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/4.4.1/../../../../arm-none-eabi/bin/ld: cannot open output file test: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status" I am not sure of hte error is due to
[13:17] <tzanger> good morning. I am finally upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10, but the package 'ubuntu-desktop' can't be upgraded for some reason.  How does one manually select the 9.10 packages in /etc/apt.d/* so I can try to figure this out?
[13:17] <abhishek> may anyone please tell me, how can i degrade my version of fglrx driver for ubuntu. When i try to uninstall the current one and install the previous one it gives errors
[13:17] <Good_D_ay> any suggestions please
[13:17] <zkriesse_> Patience PJ2
[13:17] <Propel> lol no, dr0id :P
[13:17] <dr0id> !lamp
[13:17] <tzanger> er sorry /etc/apt/sources.*
[13:17] <burhan> Propel: gaming experience on wine depends on [a] how graphics intensive your game is [b] how well your video card is supported under linux [c] how old your game is. For example, new games that need DX10 fall on their faces in wine.
[13:17] <dr0id> burhan: so just via ssh, I can't do, sudo tasksel install lamp-server ?
[13:17] <zkriesse_> Pastebin | Good_D_ay
[13:17] <jmspeex> burhan: I mean 1) are there really many bugs found each week in those and 2) isn't there a way to make this less painful than silently breaking thing until you restart
[13:18] <Good_D_ay> thanks zkriesse
[13:18] <abhishek> Good_D_ay you need to set all the compiler parameters like ld, ar and others to point to your toolchain rather than native implementations
[13:18] <abhishek> did you dowload it from soucregorgery
[13:18] <abhishek> *forgery
[13:18] <DrHalan> hey, can i turn the back-button on my mouse to a undo-button somehow?
[13:18] <sweb>  dr0id, plz help me i'm installing apache2 but the process not in the processes list
[13:18] <abhishek> Good_D_ay: ??
[13:18] <burhan> dr0id: yes, you can it should run in CLI mode.
[13:18] <Good_D_ay> abhishek: yes I download it from codesourcery
[13:19] <sweb> not httpd nor apache or apache2
[13:19] <burhan> sweb: how are you installing it?
[13:19] <Good_D_ay> It is an installer
[13:19] <dr0id> sweb: sudo tasksel install lamp-server ;)
[13:19] <Propel> good points, burhan. CS:S is quite old, so I think that should cover points A and B. Doesn't seem too graphic intense. Also my video car is Nvidia GEForce 8600GT
[13:19] <sweb> burhan, synaptic package manager
[13:19] <Devilz_108> That's a good card Propel
[13:19] <Devilz_108> Better than mine (Geforce 2MX 32MB) :P
[13:19] <abhishek> hmm the best suggestion i can give from my side is whatever you are trying to compile, compile it using cmake
[13:19] <abhishek> introduce cmake headings
[13:20] <Propel> :)
[13:20] <Propel> lol
[13:20] <tzanger> hmm, s/jaunty/karmic/g and aptitude dist-upgrade seemed to find an acceptable solution
[13:20] <burhan> sweb: and did you run it?
[13:20] <livingdaylight> hello Propel
[13:20] <Propel> hi
[13:20] <abhishek> and in the cmake gui tool u can set the compilers and other binaries path to the default path of the ARM compiler
[13:20] <abhishek> u getting me
[13:20] <abhishek> ?
[13:20] <abhishek> Good_D_ay
[13:20] <sweb> burhan, yeah
[13:20] <sweb> # service apache2 start
[13:20] <sweb>  * Starting web server apache2
[13:20] <abhishek> :??
[13:20] <burhan> Good_D_ay: could be permissions related?
[13:20] <tzanger> oh maybe not, I don't see an ubuntu-desktop in the list of what will be installed
[13:20] <livingdaylight> I installed Ubuntu 10.10 on a friend's Dell Inspiron laptop but it is choppy on video and audio - why?
[13:20] <foormea> hi
[13:21] <Good_D_ay> http://pastebin.com/gCMXu86e
[13:21] <Good_D_ay> Here is the test.c program and the output
[13:21] <abhishek> may anyone please tell me, how can i degrade my version of fglrx driver for ubuntu. When i try to uninstall the current one and install the previous one it gives errors
[13:21] <burhan> sweb: sudo netstat -anp | grep 80 does that show something?
[13:21] <PJ2> http://pastebin.com/hrXa3MtZ
[13:21] <burhan> abhishek: what errors?
[13:21] <Good_D_ay> abhishek: any idea which can be the folder to be given the permission..
[13:21] <burhan> tzanger: its a virtual package.
[13:22] <tzanger> burhan: I do understand that
[13:22] <sweb> burhan, http://pastebin.com/iDwu0XVr
[13:22] <Propel> livingdaylight: I'm new at this, but I think it might be a driver issue?
[13:22] <foormea> i installed an ubuntu system on my external hard drive, which is fully partitioned as lvm. my new system's /boot is under the lvm. grub2 is not starting when i choose to boot on my external hard drive from the bios. the grub2 generated config file seems okay
[13:23] <foormea> i'm not sure what to do
[13:23] <burhan> sweb: the apache server isn't running - check your logs.
[13:23] <abhishek> burhan: Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[13:23] <abhishek> default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.35-22-generic:; make sure that the version is being
[13:23] <abhishek> correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[13:23] <abhishek> these are the errors
[13:23] <FloodBot4> abhishek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:23] <Devilz_108> livingdaylight, It seems that 10.10 is still weak on drivers for old PCs like mine , 10.10 doesn't work with my video card so I can't boot Ubuntu so I'm sticking with 10.04
[13:23] <tzanger> burhan: all of aptitude's solutions involve removing ubuntu-desktop/minimal without installing a replacement
[13:23] <abhishek> Good_d_ay: now this is odd
[13:24] <abhishek> it should have compiled
[13:24] <sweb> burhan, Nov  1 16:53:55 sweb-laptop kernel: [ 1408.754071] apache2[3075]: segfault at 7f7d8f884a10 ip 00007f7d8f884a2c sp 00007fffb5b196e8 error 7 in lasso.so[7f7d8f82b000+70000]
[13:24] <abhishek> burhan: did u see the errors
[13:24] <abhishek> ?
[13:24] <sebsebseb> a
[13:24] <livingdaylight> Devilz_108, how interesting... I wish i knew that before I installed 10.10 on her system; which did nothing to show off and convince her to make the switch
[13:24] <livingdaylight> by the sounds of it, installed the old one might be the remedy
[13:24] <burhan> abhishek: yeah, seems you can't run whatever that version is on your current linux version.
[13:24] <abhishek> u mean never??
[13:25] <burhan> sweb: ouch :/
[13:25] <burhan> abhishek: well, until its upgraded to support your version :)
[13:25] <abhishek> Good_D_ay: try compiling without -o switch first
[13:25] <rudie> hello ppl.. is there any rdp server which i can install on ubuntu?
[13:25] <Devilz_108> livingdaylight, Just go to Ubuntu website and download the 10.04 and before you install just jump in into live run to see if everything is working fine if it did then install while running using LIVE ;)
[13:25] <abhishek> burhan: but i am actually using a lower version of fglrx , the higher version is supported and the lower is not
[13:26] <rusivi> livingdaylight: I also had a similar situation where a lifetime Windows user wanted to give Ubuntu a native install, I insisted on Lucid v. Maverick due to LTS status among other reasons.
[13:26] <rudie> is there any rdp server which i can install on ubuntu?
[13:27] <Good_D_ay> abhishek: so you want me to do first using -c option ?
[13:27] <Devilz_108> Before you install just go into a live CD and to test the sound just download Google Chrome and go to YouTube or download Flash for Firefox and the graphics you can download the drivers if Ubuntu offered a drivers to you
[13:27] <abhishek> Good_D_ay: i mean just compile it something-gcc test.c
[13:28] <burhan> sweb: what modules are you running with apache?
[13:28] <Good_D_ay> abhishek: doing thanks
[13:28] <klaas> how can I get network manager to use a specific virtual device for a pppoe connection?
[13:28] <erUSUL> rudie: no; in linux you use native X; VNC or freenx
[13:29] <erUSUL> !vnc > rudie
[13:30] <rudie> but can multiple users connect and maintain different sessions?
[13:31] <Good_D_ay> abhishek: Output is here : http://pastebin.com/Y33urWHC showing permission denied error
[13:31] <erUSUL> rudie: the linux terminal server project is based on that :)
[13:31] <erUSUL> !ltsp
[13:32] <rudie> i have installed ltsp
[13:32] <rudie> i have a thin client with embedded linux
[13:32] <rudie> but it doesnt have a connection option for ltsp
[13:32] <rudie> i have ssh which doesn't give me gui
[13:33] <rudie> can i get gui over ssh?
[13:33] <erUSUL> !vnc
[13:33] <erUSUL> rudie: also "ssh -X"
[13:34] <rudie> will it give me a gui?
[13:34] <rudie> i have 6 thin clients
[13:34] <ttiicc> whats the difference bethween xargs and gnu parallel? I can neither of them and I thought about learning one of them, this since I understood that they do exactly the same thing? ofcourse one is older and the other one is newer?
[13:34] <erUSUL> rudie: why don't you start with the links the bot gave you?
[13:35] <rudie> can i connect all 6 thin clients with different users to ubuntu on different sessions?
[13:35] <erUSUL> ttiicc: paralell is more powerfull ( can run programs across the network )
[13:35] <Kennie> Hi, i'm running ubuntu server with mdadm raid5 set. mdadm --detail says my array is clean, but when i run dmesg i see many 'read error corrected' on all 3 disks in my array. Should i be worried?
[13:36] <erUSUL> rudie: http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/server.html
[13:38] <rudie> anyone?
[13:38] <rudie> how can i connect 6 thin clients to ubuntu server over shh and get a gui?
[13:39] <ttiicc> If I install ubuntu without X. Will I be able to start applications as GIMP and Chome with their usual GUI's?
[13:40] <burhan> ttiicc: no, you need X for those.
[13:40] <intick> ofc u need GUI X
[13:40] <burhan> rudie: tunnel X over SSH, use VNC, freenx or LTSP.
[13:41] <rudie> can vnc let all thin clients to connect to the server simultaneously? and maintain a different sessions for each of them?
[13:41] <ttiicc> okej but what If I want only GUIs for my browser and nothing else? is there a way to get this minimal configuration? I would like to get this for the sake of performance!
[13:41] <burhan> rudie: of course.
[13:42] <ttiicc> anyone with a link or something?
[13:42] <burhan> ttiicc: use a lightweight destop envrionment like xfce4
[13:42] <Madmatrix> Ne1 usin ubuntu 10.10?how iz it?
[13:42] <burhan> Madmatrix: the colors are the same, but it has a prettier default background.
[13:44] <geitenneuker> madmatrix: buggy as usual
[13:44] <Madmatrix> Hiiii
[13:44] <gst-newb> what the difference between multiverse and normal variants?
[13:44] <Madmatrix> Ubuntu
[13:45] <rudie> and how do i connect? do i have to use the user id which i create on ubuntu machine?
[13:45] <burhan> rudie: all your questions and the mysteries of life will be clear to you *if you read the documentation*
[13:45] <rudie> :(
[13:45] <rudie> k
[13:45] <rudie> anyways
[13:45] <rudie> thanks for the info
[13:45] <FloodBot4> rudie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:45] <rudie> ??
[13:45] <aseru1> /mode $me +x
[13:46] <gst-newb> what's the difference between multiverse and normal variants, in apt-get?
[13:47] <replicasex> what would be the command to see/list if a computer had a wifi card or not?  I can't seem to recall if a friend's older computer had one.
[13:47] <burhan> I think multiverse has software that is not free.
[13:47] <Pici> gst-newb: They aren't variants, but rather logical groupings of software depending on license and support status.  see
[13:47] <Pici> gst-newb: see http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components for details.
[13:47] <burhan> replicasex: you can check dmesg to see if one was detected at boot time.
[13:47] <replicasex> wat :\
[13:47] <wzq> hello
[13:48] <geitenneuker> do androids dream of electric sheeps?
[13:48] <gst-newb> Pici, thanks :)
[13:48] <burhan> gst-newb: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[13:48] <geitenneuker> burhan ocal, a good composer
[13:48] <burhan> geitenneuker: the better question is, do sheep dream of humans?
[13:48] <geitenneuker> well, they do
[13:48] <Pici> !ot
[13:48] <replicasex> would the card be listed with lspci ?
[13:48] <reenignEesreveR> in terms of performance, is there a huge difference between 32 and 64-bit ubuntu?
[13:48] <gst-newb> burhan, thanks too :)
[13:49] <bork>  My synaptics touchpad is detected as a generic ps/2 mouse. Any ideas how I can fix this? Acer Aspire A0532h netbook, maverick. The synaptics drivers are installed.
[13:49] <geitenneuker> reenignEesreveR: no
[13:49] <burhan> replicasex: yes it should be.
[13:49] <geitenneuker> reenignEesreveR: not noticeable
[13:49] <geitenneuker> reenignEesreveR: but if you have some memory hungry applications you feel the difference
[13:49] <replicasex> burhan, any idea what it might be listed like?  I'm not good at deciphering random pc bus listings
[13:50] <geitenneuker> reeniginEesreveR: i rather to use 64bit version with 4gb mem
[13:50] <arta> bandung
[13:50] <reenignEesreveR> geitenneuker, right. I downloaded 32 bit instead of 64-bit. I have a slow connection and i was wondering if i should just go ahead or spend another day downloading
[13:50] <burhan> replicasex: well, generally it will have 'controller' in its name. Depends on the brand of the card and how well its detected.
[13:51] <geitenneuker> reeniginEesreveR:  lol
[13:51] <ha55an> hi, i have a question: i have a folder full of subfolders with pictures. many of the pics are dupplicates, i have used fslink to create hardlinks to dupplicates to save disk space. i now want to copy all the folder to a usb drive (for backup) how do i do that without it taking too much space and creating dupplicates all over again?
[13:51] <burhan> reenignEesreveR: just install PAE-enabled kernel and you can use your 4GB of RAM even with the 32bit version.
[13:52] <burhan> ha55an: what format is the USB drive?
[13:52] <geitenneuker> burhan; PAE is a dirty trick
[13:52] <ha55an> burhan: ext3
[13:53] <Uruk> Tried dist-upgrade yesterday, machine hung and got powercycled during package post-install.  Now won't boot.  Downloaded live CD, and when booting from Live CD, machine hangs at the ubuntu splash screen.  Suggestions on how to un-screw this setup?
[13:53] <gimbals> I'm trying to run a PC with a failed hard-drive. I've got Xubuntu installed on a flash stick and a LiveCD which happens to have GRUB on it. The PC doesn't boot from flash sticks but it will off the CD. How do I use GRUB to boot from the memstick?
[13:53] <burhan> ha55an: try cp -pPr it should copy links and permissions.
[13:53] <ha55an> aha
[13:53] <ha55an> perfect
[13:53] <ha55an> thanks a lot
[13:54] <Gatonegro> Hello all. How can I let users turn the computer off even if other users are logged in?
[13:54] <shadow98> i have an inotifywait script that i created...http://pastebin.com/pSNgwD9b  when i execute it the command line never returns...which is correct because it is waiting how do i make this run in the background and also work on reboot
[13:54] <replicasex> it's rather irritating that my isp won't let me hook up a modem that I own and use that >_>
[13:54] <rusivi> Uruk: Assuming you were using Lucid, and tried to upgrade to Maverick & the Live CD was Maverick, your best bet is use Lucid Live CD see if that works.
[13:55] <Gatonegro> My parents share the same computer, and they often leave their sessions open. They need to be able to turn the machine off from from their respective accounts notwithstanding if the other one is logged in.
[13:55] <llutz> Gatonegro: give limited sudo access to "shutdown" to that user, if you really want that
[13:55] <rusivi> replicasex: If your in US, who is your ISP?
[13:55] <replicasex> Charter :(
[13:55] <burhan> gimbals: if you want to recover files from the disk, then there are easier solutions (like a special bootable Linux CD with file recovery software).
[13:55] <replicasex> Big ol' cable company rusivi
[13:55] <Uruk> rusivi: maybe worth trying....although I'm not 100% sure which old distro this one was running.
[13:56] <Gatonegro> llutz, But Ubuntu doesn't tell me that the users need priviledges -- it just logs them off and onto the other user's lock screen...
[13:56] <burhan> shadow98: run the background, append &
[13:56] <replicasex> I have two computers here, neither have wifi cards (I didn't get one for mine and the other is rather old) ... yeah, I wanted both to be connected but apparently what I said was "charge me for another line"
[13:56] <geitenneuker> both
[13:56] <geitenneuker> that makes no sense
[13:56] <CharlieSu> Are there any good options for full disk encryption that do not require anyone to type in a passphrase at boot time?
[13:57] <rusivi> replicasex: I'm an ISP'er, usually they have something called a "custmod" that allows customers to use their own modem. However, it was my understanding they are required to allow it due to FCC competitive purposes.
[13:57] <llutz> Gatonegro: on a multiuser-OS no non-privileged user should be able to shutdown the computer
[13:57] <shadow98> burhan: and how do i get it to run on reboot
[13:57] <LjL> CharlieSu: what's the point of encryption then?
[13:57] <burhan> shadow98: add it to the runlevel you want by creating a script and sticking it somewhere in /etc/rc.xxx
[13:57] <rusivi> replicasex: One of these for TV CableCards called Seperable Security (US Law governing it)
[13:57] <burhan> CharlieSu: there are some harddrives that have on-board encryption that is OS-independent.
[13:57] <CharlieSu> LjL: I'm leaving hardware at an offsite location that I don't want anyone to be able to steal data from..
[13:57] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> lol @ LjL
[13:58] <replicasex> rusivi, maybe >_>  I connected it up but it won't go and tries to load into their silly isp install, obviously this modem is somehow not authorized
[13:58] <gimbals> burhan: The disk is dead. Right now I urgently need *anything* to run so I can use the internet. Normally my USB Xubuntu install serves this purpose, but this particular PC turns out not to support booting from memsticks. I'm pretty sure I can do it with a seperate bootable GRUB instance though (which I have). The question is how to do this
[13:58] <CharlieSu> burhan: yes? what brands?
[13:58] <LjL> CharlieSu: right... i'm saying if there is no passphrase, then what's to prevent anyone from stealing data?
[13:58] <rusivi> replicasex: Yes you have to call Charter and request that they authorize it.
[13:58] <burhan> gimbals: run a livecd?
[13:58] <burhan> CharlieSu: the one in my IBM thinkpad does, I think its a WD.
[13:58] <replicasex> rusivi, do you know if they have to have a technician come over or?
[13:58] <CharlieSu> LjL: nothing i guess.. i was wondering if there was another option or something i wasn't thinking of..  something like burhan suggested
[13:58] <replicasex> rusivi, worried they'll just "add another line" instead and charge me double
[13:58] <Gatonegro> llutz, That works fine for a school or a business. Not for a home machine. There, the computer should /warn/ the user that others are logged in, and let the user choose wether to go on or leave the computer powered but close their session.
[13:58] <replicasex> they're real jerks
[13:58] <rusivi> replicasex: Usually you just return any eq they gave you and they just send a signal down without a site visit.
[13:59] <LjL> CharlieSu: something involving smartcards or USB "cards" could work
[13:59] <LjL> CharlieSu: but there absolutely has to be some kind of secret/private "token", be it a passphrase or something else.
[13:59] <CharlieSu> LjL: that would be sufficient.  anything that works well w/ ubuntu ?
[13:59] <replicasex> rusivi, yeah returned the second one but I need to use two different ones.   I have temporary access here but nothing that could be used to download ISOs. The bootable CD with GRUB on it is an old copy of the "Trinity Rescue Kit" which I had lying around.
[13:59] <CharlieSu> LjL: how about a USB drive that is only required temporarily on boot?
[13:59] <burhan> CharlieSu: google Seagate Barracuda FDE
[14:00] <LjL> CharlieSu: yes that's what i meant by USB "card". i don't know but let me see if there is ubuntu documentation about this
[14:00] <CharlieSu> LjL: something that can be removed after the system boots so that it can be put into a safe
[14:00] <replicasex> rusivi, my expectations were basically that the whole house has the signal coming to it so why couldn't I just add an extra? :P
[14:01] <rusivi> replicasex: That's nice you feel that way but if you want to add it, you have to call ur ISP and ask them to authorize it ;)
[14:01] <burhan> CharlieSu: but I think all will require some form of authentication - either boot-on password or a hardware key. IBM sells an external hard drive with a built-in numeric keypad; you have to punch in a code in order to use the disk.
[14:01] <replicasex> rusivi, any idea if that costs money or not?  Pretty sure the modem is up to snuff, it's a few years old but I think it's perfectly capable
[14:01] <Gatonegro> llutz, In any case -- both of them have superuser priviledges. The problem is that when one is logged in, the other cannot power off the machine before entering the first user's account.
[14:01] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> LjL i want my car to still have an ignition and i will keep the keys in the visor but I want the car to still be secure, WITHOUT the doors being locked or there being a stick locking the steering wheel in place ;)
[14:02] <burhan> gimbals: I'm not sure if USB is even accessible at grub time.
[14:02] <Gatonegro> If user B tries to power off the machine, it just causes user B's account to log off and return to user A's lock screen.
[14:02] <shadow98> burhan,  you ever worked with inotify
[14:02] <rusivi> replicasex: It's a no cost transaction. As well, if your ISP is using DOCSIS 3.0 (newest standard) and your modem is only DOCSIS 1.1 you may not get fastest speeds. Anyway you slice it, have to call and ask Charter.
[14:02] <CharlieSu> burhan: i like this idea..  if it is as simiple as a hardware key it would be nice
[14:02] <replicasex> rusivi, alas alas :(
[14:03] <llutz> Gatonegro: look at this, even its for pclos it might help http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=64435.0
[14:03] <burhan> CharlieSu: not sure about Ubuntu, but Fedora has hardware key support for login, which can also be used for encryption.
[14:03] <burhan> shadow98: nope.
[14:04] <shadow98> hmmm i grep and can see that it is running but when i modify the files i have asked it to monitor it is not executing correctly
[14:04] <gimbals> burhan: Thanks for your help
[14:04] <gimbals> :)
[14:04] <replicasex> rusivi, i'm kinda curious, do they just flick a switch and have the signal ungate?
[14:05] <rusivi> replicasex: Pretty much it's just a couple clicks of the mouse/keyboard.
[14:05] <shadow98> Can someone look at this intoifywait script and see if you think i have anything wrong it is not executing the command i asked it.  http://pastebin.com/pSNgwD9b
[14:06] <DexterF> hi
[14:06] <shadow98> it is running in background but when i modify the files and or add something to the directory that it is looking at it will not excute csync2 -x
[14:06] <Madmatrix> Hiii
[14:06] <Gatonegro> llutz, Thanks, I'll try that.
[14:06] <LjL> CharlieSu: hmmm the only thing i've found in terms of ubuntu howto is this very old one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto5 that mentions you can put the /keys partition on external storage. not very current i'm afraid.
[14:07] <DexterF> I setup this 10.04 to share its internet connection. now - another ubuntu 9.10 connects fine but my debian 5.0 machine won't tho its dhcp confed
[14:07] <DexterF> pointers?
[14:07] <burhan> shadow98: try redirecting the output to a log file and see if that gets you anywhere.
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> DexterF:  check the ip and gateway and dns server settings.. see if it can ping the gateway, or the other machines.
[14:08] <burhan> DexterF: the debian machine doesn't get access to the Internet or doesn't get an IP from the DHCP?
[14:10] <replicasex> rusivi, I'm not usually the decision-y making one/pay the bills guy (I'm 20 hah) and I was totally distraught at them (charter) charging for a whole extra line.  really burned me out
[14:10] <s0u][ight> hello, i transfered a few songs to my ipod using rhythmbox, they are on my ipod but the ipod can't play them :/
[14:10] <W1N9Zr0|work123> hello, is there a way to remove a directory with a "Circular directory structure" error without an fsck?
[14:12] <Xaevo> heyo.
[14:13] <Xaevo> i am running Ubuntu server version 9.04, x64, i have a issue with samba and apache2
[14:14] <burhan> W1N9Zr0: check if you have recursive links, that's usually a fix for this.
[14:15] <W1N9Zr0> burhan: yes it has recursive hard links, how do i go about removing them, rm -rf gives an error, rmdir on it hangs
[14:15] <burhan> W1N9Zr0: what's the error on rm?
[14:16] <Diverdude> Hello. I made changes to /etc/profile   (added a network server) how do i make these changes take effect without restarting the system
[14:16] <Diverdude> ?
[14:16] <abstrakt> is there a way to record and play back keyboard and mouse events?
[14:16] <burhan> Diverdude: source /etc/profile
[14:16] <abstrakt> I want to make a screencast, but what I want to do is go through the motions/actions, take however long it takes me
[14:17] <abstrakt> and then replay back those actions but all at a smooth consistent pace so people don't have to sit there and watch a motionless screen because I was thinking
[14:17] <burhan> abstrakt: sounds like you need to plan your screencast before you start recording it :)
[14:18] <Guest86478> hello..everyone
[14:18] <W1N9Zr0> rm: WARNING: Circular directory structure. This almost certainly means that you have a corrupted file system.NOTIFY YOUR SYSTEM MANAGER.
[14:18] <W1N9Zr0> The following directory is part of the cycle: `/usr.old/lib/perl5/Unix/f/f/f/f/f/f/f/f/f.....
[14:18] <abstrakt> burhan: no I have it planned out
[14:18] <Belial`> when i try to remove the gwibber service it wants to remove indicator-me along with it.
[14:18] <abstrakt> burhan: but for example, if I have code snippets, instead of typing them out myself, why not just echo snippet | myTypingProgram
[14:18] <burhan> abstrakt: I might have a solution for the keyboard problem, but can't think of one for the mouse.
[14:18] <abstrakt> burhan: so then people don't have to watch me backspace and correct typos for example
[14:19] <abstrakt> burhan: ditto for mouse actions really
[14:19] <burhan> abstrakt: hmm ... a history enabled clipboard might solve that part.
[14:19] <Xaevo> i am running Ubuntu server version 9.04, x64, i have a issue with samba and apache2
[14:19] <abstrakt> burhan: ok, how do I get such a thing?
[14:19] <Xaevo> apache2 fails to edit files
[14:19] <Xaevo> only under 777 perms
[14:19] <burhan> abstrakt: you'd have to search for one and install it - or use an editor that can store snippets with keyboard hotkeys.
[14:19] <abstrakt> Xaevo: wait, apache only edits under 777, or apache *fails* under 777
[14:20] <Xaevo> and i can only edit/save files on my samba shares when it's running under my user/group
[14:20] <root__> hello ubutu
[14:20] <abstrakt> burhan: it's not about storing the snippets, it's about having them appear as if they were typed out at a consistent e.g. 50wpm or so
[14:20] <Xaevo> abstrakt, only edits under
[14:20] <root__> ____________________________________________________
[14:20] <abstrakt> Xaevo: ok so what? that sounds basically normal to me, esp when dealing with samba
[14:20] <nhrahi> hello
[14:20] <Xaevo> abstrakt, i want apache to be able to read/write under 775
[14:21] <Xaevo> rwx under 775
[14:21] <god37337> hello there :D
[14:21] <burhan> abstrakt: aaah okay, I understand your question now. You want the *appearance* of characters being typed even if you say - copy paste a snippet.
[14:21] <Xaevo> but it doesn't want to co-operate
[14:21] <abstrakt> Xaevo: but everything on windows is 777 by default anyway, afaik
[14:21] <abstrakt> burhan: yup
[14:21] <root__> how to vm in linux
[14:21] <root__> exit
[14:22] <Xaevo> abstrakt, i want to run a webserver
[14:22] <Xaevo> it's under my desk
[14:22] <pksadiq> Why couldn't I make make Start up disk with " start up disk Creator" with ext3 format?
[14:22] <Xaevo> i tough, for conveinience, i make samba shares possible to edit my files
[14:22] <abstrakt> burhan: and e.g. if I move my mouse from x,y to x+100,y+100 I would much rather have it just transition smoothely from point A to point B and ignore any of the jigger that my mousing hand might have introduced
[14:22] <abstrakt> burhan: just want to make things as smooth and seamless as possible
[14:22] <abstrakt> burhan: I supposed I just might have to write something like this myself
[14:23] <Xaevo> so, i basically want what every webhoster gives
[14:23] <Xaevo> when i install crap like wordpress, it must be able to just work.
[14:23] <kiko__> join #ubuntu
[14:23] <burhan> Xaevo: wouldn't webdav be an easier solution?
[14:23] <paulm> excuse me, where can i go to get help on how to make cairo start on logon?
[14:23] <burhan> abstrakt: I'm sorry I don't know of a way to do this, its a good idea though.
[14:23] <abstrakt> Xaevo: "I want to run a web server" <- what's wrong with apache?
[14:24] <erUSUL> !lamp | Xaevo

[14:24] <buntu> what will be the best platform to write programs for qt4?
[14:24] <ruimartins> hi! i need some help, i'm trying to install ubuntu on macbook pro 5,5 from usb, i followed the instructions on ubuntu.com but i can't boot from usb. could anyone help me?
[14:24] <paulm> excuse me, where can i go to get help on how to make cairo start on logon?
[14:24] <k-rad> anyone who is a great bash scripter i'd offer $15 to anyone who could perfect this bash script  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10056883#post10056883
[14:24] <Xaevo> erUSUL, don't be stupid
[14:24] <taino> can anyone tell me if theres an alternative to cedega for running wow on my box?
[14:24] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> abstrakt why can your mouse not move 100 pixels without "jitter"?
[14:24] <burhan> paulm: you can add it to your startup scripts
[14:24] <AbhiJit> !vm | taino
[14:24] <erUSUL> buntu: kde + qtdesigner ?
[14:24] <IdleOne> Xaevo: Please watch your attitude
[14:24] <abstrakt> Xaevo: why you're trying to setup a web root on a samba share is rather beyond me
[14:24] <burhan> taino: virtual machine or dual boot.
[14:25] <kaarel_> can anyone help me with maverick and really slow graphics performance? i have intel 945gm, glxgears is less than 50 fps...
[14:25] <k-rad> AbhiJit, which of those use the least resources while running windows 7 ?
[14:25] <Xaevo> abstrakt, i made a samba share to /var/www
[14:25] <AbhiJit> :o
can any one help me
[14:25] <abstrakt> Xaevo: yes but *why*
[14:25] <AbhiJit> k-rad, i dunno! i only use wine! :)
[14:25] <abstrakt> Xaevo: that seems rather, um... not a good idea, for the reasons that you're already experiencing
[14:25] <pksadiq> !ask | Madmatrix
[14:25] <k-rad> virtualbox it is :)
[14:25] <Xaevo> abstrakt, it's under my desk and i am using it as my production box
[14:25] <taino> ok so basically unless i want lag from running wow in wine im gonna have to dual boot
[14:25] <AbhiJit> :/
[14:26] <Xaevo> abstrakt, give me an alternative.
[14:26] <erUSUL> taino: read the appdb page for WoW ?
[14:26] <abstrakt> Xaevo: install ubuntu on the box under your desk
[14:26] <k-rad> just for itunes that is
[14:26] <abstrakt> Xaevo: tada, there's an alternative
[14:26] <Madmatrix> Hhhh
[14:26] <Xaevo> abstrakt, ubuntu is installed on that fucker.
[14:26] <burhan> Xaevo: a simple solution is to use FTP and mount the location as a network drive using FTP in Windows. You can also use WebDAV which is much easier to configure.
[14:26] <pksadiq> !iphone | k-rad
[14:26] <erUSUL> Xaevo: winscp + ssh
should i use the sdk from trolltech or from synaptic?what is recomended?
[14:26] <IdleOne> !language | Xaevo
[14:27] <erUSUL> buntu: better allways to use the version on the repos
[14:27] <W1N9Zr0> burhan: any idea about the error?
[14:27] <Madmatrix> Hiiiii
[14:27] <Madmatrix> Any
[14:27] <abstrakt> Xaevo: ok dude, I'm not gonna help you any more... go sit on a broken broomstick if you're gonna be like that
[14:27] <Madmatrix> One know how to use irc
[14:27] <k-rad> pksadiq, i meant purchasing options.  i have a cell phone that acts as a push button phone alone.
[14:27] <burhan> W1N9Zr0: other than manually editing the links, I haven't a clue :(
[14:27] <pksadiq> !irc | Madmatrix
[14:27] <IdleOne> !ask | Madmatrix
[14:27] <Xaevo> abstrakt, there's already ubuntu 9.04 installed on it :/
ok thanx...
[14:27] <Xaevo> i am just pissed off at the damn box
[14:27] <erUSUL> np
[14:27] <abstrakt> Xaevo: good luck getting help with an attitude like that
[14:28] <yys> 大家好
[14:28] <IdleOne> !cn | yys
[14:28] <erUSUL> !cn | yys
[14:28] <Xaevo> abstrakt, i am trying to get this working for like 6 months now..
[14:28] <abstrakt> Xaevo: you never even told me anything about your setup, get a fricking clue, stop being a douche, do the leg work to tell us what your setup is and what you want, it's not my job to be psychic and understand what your configuration is
[14:28] <Xaevo> abstrakt, i did.
[14:28] <pksadiq> k-rad: Do you mean I phone? It's a phone that makes you beleive that you are in the world of Freedom, but not ever, Even it blocks sending some files with Bluetooth !
[14:28] <Xaevo> tell you what the setup is
[14:29] <Madmatrix> Picassa is not working on my os any sugesn
[14:29] <Xaevo> [15:19] <Xaevo> i am running Ubuntu server version 9.04, x64, i have a issue with samba and apache2
[14:29] <burhan> Xaevo: what is the problem that you are trying to solve with samba?
[14:29] <pksadiq> Madmatrix: google picassa?
[14:29]  * erUSUL figurring out what "a issue" is is left as an exersice for the reader
[14:29] <burhan> Madmatrix: run it from a terminal and check for any error messages.
[14:30] <sresu_> What is the package name for system monitor?
[14:30] <jrib> sresu_: gnome-system-monitor
[14:30] <pksadiq> !find gnome-system-monitor | sresu_
[14:30] <Madmatrix> I did it but stilll i cant
[14:30] <Xaevo> burhan, permissions and stuff
[14:31] <burhan> Xaevo: if you just need an easy way to transfer files to the web server from Windows, use FTP. You don't need Samba.
[14:31] <sresu_> Thanks
[14:31] <burhan> Xaevo: if you have a more detailed description other than "permissions and stuff" I'm happy to help.
[14:31] <acid_> Ola gostaria de saber qual e o canal em portugues pra ajuda do ubuntu
[14:32] <burhan> !es
[14:32] <Xaevo> burhan, ftp is slower then samba
[14:32] <burhan> Xaevo: how is the machine connected?
[14:32] <Xaevo> burhan, apache2 doesn't want to edit the files from e.g. wordpress
[14:32] <IdleOne> !br | acid_
[14:32] <Xaevo> burhan, lan
[14:32] <Madmatrix> Wats wrong with my phone it sudenly swtchoffffs
[14:33] <burhan> Xaevo: if you are on a lan, then FTP should be faster - but anyway, your problem is that using some PHP application you cannot write to files?
[14:33] <Madmatrix> And gets formated
[14:33] <Xaevo> burhan, kinda, like, all files
[14:33] <Xaevo> burhan, it can only edit the files under 777 permissions
[14:33] <Xaevo> i want it to run under 775
[14:33] <pksadiq> !details | Madmatrix
[14:33] <burhan> Xaevo: then change the group of those files to www-data
[14:34] <Xaevo> burhan, then i can't edit them anymore
[14:34] <burhan> who is I?
[14:34] <Xaevo> also, my FTP client sets all files to user remon, group remon
[14:34] <Schmitty> .
[14:34] <burhan> is remon your username on the Ubuntu server?
[14:35] <LtNight> ÞÞ
[14:35] <Xaevo> burhan, yes
[14:36] <burhan> Xaevo: then that's what it is supposed to do. You login using remon, and the default action is to assign files to the user and group remon.
[14:36] <dolce> Hello, I'm looking for a simple way to automatically  mount Windows partition when booting Ubuntu (10.10)
[14:36] <burhan> Xaevo: if a file is owned by remon, but has the group www-data, and its permissions are 775, the user remon can still write to it.
[14:36] <Xaevo> hm
[14:36] <Xaevo> #httpd told me to make a seperate group with both users in it and apply that to the files..?
[14:37] <sresu_> I'm not able to understand how 8.4GiB got consumed out of 10GiB for /. Its affecting upgrade process. How to free space?
[14:37] <burhan> Xaevo: that's one way to do it.
[14:37] <Xaevo> burhan, that way isn't working
[14:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> sresu_: Are you done upgrading?
[14:37] <Xaevo> my last option would be to make an user and group for all my web stuffs
[14:37] <Xaevo> and ssh/sftp to that
[14:38] <sresu_> SpaceGhostC2C: No, I'm not upgrading. But I know that it will require around 2GiB space
[14:38] <qwertyjustin> Hi, i have install a windows xp and unbuntu dual boot.
[14:38] <qwertyjustin> Every time i boot into ubuntu its ok. but every time i boot into windows, --then the following time i try to boot into anything, my computer cant find the MBR. windows is wiping my MBR everytime i boot into it.
[14:38] <qwertyjustin> To temporarily fix it, i have to boot a live ubuntu cd and reinstall the grub. how can i defeat this?
[14:38] <FloodBot4> qwertyjustin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <burhan> Xaevo: that's not a secure solution.
[14:38] <erUSUL> sresu_: check the isze of /var/log/
[14:38] <Xaevo> burhan, what is a secure solution?
[14:38] <Roland>  is it possible to remount / to some other place like /newroot ?
[14:38] <burhan> Xaevo: on my production machine, all web files are owned by the user and Apache can still write to specific files, for which I change the group.
[14:39] <burhan> Roland: sure.
[14:39] <sresu_> erUSUL: 10.7 MiB
[14:39] <Xaevo> burhan, how are webhosters doing it?
[14:39] <burhan> Xaevo: using group permission.
[14:39] <erUSUL> sresu_: you are upgrading? then /var/cache/apt/ will use a lot of space. check how much
[14:40] <Xaevo> burhan, why is my group solution from #httpd not working then?
[14:40] <burhan> Xaevo: who knows? Maybe apache is not running as that user :P
[14:40] <Xaevo> burhan, it is running as www-data
[14:40] <burhan> Xaevo: and you added your user to www-data
[14:41] <Xaevo> burhan, yup
[14:41] <burhan> Xaevo: and the permissions of the file are 775
[14:41] <Xaevo> yup
[14:41] <burhan> Xaevo: and you cannot edit it?
[14:41] <Xaevo> wordpress can't edit it.
[14:41] <Xaevo> i haven't tried samba'ing yet, i am not home
[14:41] <burhan> Xaevo: what's the permission of the parent directory?
[14:41] <sresu_> erUSUL: I'm about to upgrade from lucid to meerkat. Before that I was taking important backup and checking what all would upgrade need. As far as I remember it would take 2GiB from /. I only want 2GiB+ space free for /, now it only 1.2 GiB
[14:42] <erUSUL> sresu_: well 8 GiB is a lot of space for a root partition... without finding out where the space is used we can not know how to free it
[14:42] <k-rad> anyone who is a great bash scripter i'd offer $15 to anyone who could perfect this bash script  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10056883#post10056883
[14:43] <anythingnormal> i want to install my printer on ubuntu . its a Canon Pixma MX850 . if connect him with a usb cable, they ask me to choose a driver from the list. but dont find one for my printer.  what can i do ?
[14:43] <sresu_> erUSUL: Yes, it more than required. That's why I was surprised to see how it took up so much space
[14:43] <Xaevo> burhan, the same
[14:43] <burhan> Xaevo: run getfacl on it.
[14:43] <erUSUL> sresu_: use Apps>Accesories>Disk use analizer ?
[14:43] <Xaevo> burhan. getfacl?
[14:44] <pksadiq> k-rad: 15$ ?
[14:44] <k-rad> erUSUL, is 6GB a decent amount of memory for mostly desktop application use and perhaps a single windows 7 virtualbox session ?  what size swap would a person use with 6GB ram ?
[14:44] <sresu_> erUSUL: You want to go there or asking if I use that?
[14:44] <k-rad> pksadiq, its all i can offer.
[14:44] <erUSUL> sresu_: use that to find where the space is wasted
[14:44] <Xaevo> burhan, acl isn't installed? O.o
[14:44] <sresu_> erUSUL: Whats the package name?
[14:45] <Uruk> During dist-upgrade, machine got powercycled during package post-install.  Now won't boot; tried bootable LiveCD with both old and new versions (10.10, 10.04) - LiveCD hangs on Ubuntu splash screen.  Suggestions?  How do I see console on LiveCD so I can at least tell why LiveCD is hanging?
[14:45] <erUSUL> k-rad: i will use just 1 Gib or so. unless you plan to suspend to disk
[14:45] <burhan> k-rad: with 6GB RAM, you can run Windows 7 as a host and run Ubuntu with flying colors in a VM. I run Fedora, Ubuntu, Windows 7 in VM using 4GB of RAM.
[14:45] <donciccio> how do I get writing permission in an external disk?
[14:45] <k-rad> burhan, i would never run ubuntu inside of windows.  i'd rather run windows under ubuntu :)
[14:45] <anythingnormal> nobody a idea what i can do with the printer?
[14:45] <erUSUL> sresu_: baobab is the prgram name
[14:45] <Xaevo> burhan, what are the minimum specs for a VMWare serer?
[14:46] <k-rad> burhan, i only need one app for music aquistion and that is itunes :)
[14:46] <purvesh> How to install adobe Flash Player 64bit in Ubuntu 10.10 64bit ?
[14:46] <burhan> Xaevo: apt-get install acl
[14:46] <erUSUL> sresu_: is in gnome-utils
[14:46] <DragonKeeper> ok i need windows on a different hdd  because all games wont work in ubuntu  but im unsure if i install windows  now would it get added to the bootmenu ?
[14:46] <sresu_> erUSUL: I cannot see program with that name
[14:46] <erUSUL> sresu_: is  Applications>Accesories>disk use analizer
[14:47] <burhan> Xaevo: for a vmware server? I think 4GB of RAM and 20GB of HDD or something like that. You add more RAM + HDD for each VM you are going to host.
[14:47] <Xaevo> burhan, getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
[14:47] <Xaevo> # file: var/www/blog
[14:47] <Xaevo> # owner: remon
[14:47] <Xaevo> # group: webstuff
[14:47] <Xaevo> user::rwx
[14:47] <Xaevo> group::rwx
[14:47] <Xaevo> other::r-x
[14:47] <FloodBot4> Xaevo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:48] <burhan> Xaevo: your group is webstuff not www-data
[14:48] <Xaevo> i know
[14:48] <donciccio> how do I get writing permission in an external disk?
[14:48] <Xaevo> that's the shared group
[14:48] <burhan> sresu_: you can also use du -h
[14:48] <Xaevo> i needed to make
[14:48] <Xaevo> from #httpd
[14:48] <r3sno> im trying to connect to a webdav server. i used the places -> connect to server and am getting erros about being moved
[14:49] <burhan> Xaevo: did you add www-data user to that group?
[14:49] <brahem> hi
[14:49] <Xaevo> burhan, duh.
[14:49] <brahem> alguien habla español?
[14:49] <Pici> !es | brahem
[14:49] <erUSUL> !es | brahem
[14:49] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> !es
[14:49] <r3sno> Pici: im just not fast enough lol
[14:49] <Tigger_Yum-Yum>  brahem
[14:49] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> fail
[14:50] <sresu_> erUSUL: Ok, I got that.. Now what?
[14:50] <sresu_> erUSUL: It gives a pie chart
[14:50] <erUSUL> sresu_: check the root partition. the folder tht is consuming the space should stand up
[14:51] <burhan> Xaevo: and what's the exact error message from the Apache log?
[14:51] <donciccio> how do I get writing permission in an external disk?
[14:51] <Xaevo> burhan, no error
[14:51] <sresu_> burhan: Thanks, its displaying everything. I'll let it run and check soon
[14:51] <erUSUL> donciccio: what type of filesystem ?
[14:51] <Xaevo> wordpress is just bugging me like hell
[14:51] <donciccio> ext3
[14:51] <brahem> ok friends
[14:51] <ngochan> hi
[14:51] <ngochan> where is the menu.lst in /boot/grub ?
[14:51] <Xaevo> If your .htaccess file were writable, we could do this automatically, but it isn’t so these are the mod_rewrite rules you should have in your .htaccess file. Click in the field and press CTRL + a to select all.
[14:52] <burhan> Xaevo: no error?
[14:52] <ngochan> I want to change to boot order in menu.lst but can not find it in ubuntu 10*
[14:52] <Xaevo> burhan, indeed
[14:52] <erUSUL> ngochan: from 9.10 on ubuntu uses grub2
[14:52] <burhan> Xaevo: it should give you file permission error
[14:52] <erUSUL> !grub2 > ngochan
[14:52] <bstrds> why do u need to change?>
[14:52] <burhan> Xaevo: then something else is wrong, I run 5 wordpress blogs on my ubuntu server and your problem never came up.
[14:53] <sresu_> erUSUL: Its scanning it
[14:53] <burhan> Xaevo: do you *have* a .htaccess file?
[14:53] <sweb> burhan, please help me to run apache2 i really don't know why not worked. :(
[14:53] <donciccio> erUSUL: ext3
[14:53] <Xaevo> burhan, yes
[14:53] <bstrds> the menu . lst is now called grub.cfg
[14:53] <burhan> sweb: what other package did you install with apache2? Are you running any custom modules with it?
[14:53] <bstrds> so there you go
[14:54] <erUSUL> donciccio: probably you have permissions problems. change the permissions in the external disk
[14:54] <ttiicc> as I understands it anacron only runs after boot? so if I have a anacron job which should ran at midnight and my compouter runs for 10 days without a boot, then my anacron job would not ran until the reboot?
[14:54] <burhan> Xaevo: ls -l on it.
[14:54] <Uruk> During dist-upgrade, machine got powercycled during package post-install.  Now won't boot; tried bootable LiveCD with both old and new versions (10.10, 10.04) - LiveCD hangs on Ubuntu splash screen.  Suggestions?  When booting from CD, I never see a grub prompt, so I don't get a chance to say nosplash at boot
[14:54] <donciccio> erUSUL: How?
[14:54] <erUSUL> ttiicc: that's why long before anacron; cron was created
[14:54] <erUSUL> !cron
[14:54] <bstrds> wtf
[14:54] <erUSUL> !permissions | donciccio
[14:54] <Xaevo> burhan, it's all properly perm'd
[14:54] <sweb> burhan, i reinstall it tell me how can i reinstall all packages by defualt. i use package manager not edit any setting manual
[14:54] <ttiicc> yes I know about cron, Im just learning anacron right now :D
[14:55] <burhan> sweb: sudo aptitude install apache2 (run that)
[14:55] <burhan> Xaevo: can you show the line output?
[14:56] <r3sno> are there still issues with connecting to webdav from ubuntu?
[14:56] <ttiicc> and the delay option is for if 5 anacron jobs should run after the latest reboot then command A with delay 5 min will not let any of the other commands in the anacron to ran in the nearly 5 minbutes after command A is executed?
[14:56] <Xaevo> burhan, -rwxrwxr-x  1 remon webstuff   203 2010-11-01 14:51 .htaccess
[14:57] <burhan> Xaevo: I'm sure you restarted Apache after you change the group?
[14:57] <DragonKeeper> ok i need windows on a different hdd  because all games wont work in ubuntu  but im unsure if i install windows  now would it get added to the bootmenu ?
[14:57] <Xaevo> burhan, yes
[14:57] <sresu_> erUSUL: Please hold on.. Its taking time
[14:58] <gabriele> acdc
[14:58] <sweb> burhan, not happening http://pastebin.com/X5az1889
[14:58] <abhishek> hi all i am connected to a mobile gsm/broadband network and its showing active(35% ,roaming), while in my phone i have full strength of signals. What does this mean??
[14:58] <robin0800> burhan: you would have to update grub
[14:58] <sweb> burhan, http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ not work
[14:58] <Xaevo> burhan, i restarted my server, it works now
[14:58] <TheCrow> ubuntu sucks!
[14:59] <abhishek> i am connected to a mobile gsm/broadband network and its showing active(35% ,roaming), while in my phone i have full strength of signals. What does this mean??
[14:59] <pksadiq> TheCrow: ?
[14:59] <jpds> TheCrow: </opinion>
[14:59] <Xaevo> TheCrow, why?
[14:59] <DragonKeeper> hes part of the windows cult
[14:59] <abhishek> i am connected to a mobile gsm/broadband network and its showing active(35% ,roaming), while in my phone i have full strength of signals.   Got both a 1.5TB and 2.0TB NTFS volume.  I used both previously with FreeBSD and ZFS.  They work fine in Windows 7.  But when I boot Ubuntu 10.10, I can only mount and read the 1.5TB volume - the 2.0TB volume won't mount, says 'zfs is unsupported', even though Windows 7 reads the ntfs volume on there fine.  Any suggestions on why the 2T and acting differently than the 1.5T?  I used Windows Disk Utility Snapin thing to format both.
[15:03] <pksadiq> !find pdf2html | dwarder
[15:03] <sresu_> erUSUL: /opt taking 324.6MB and /lib taking 224.9MB
[15:03] <burhan> sweb: sudo a2dismod php5 && /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[15:03] <erUSUL> sresu_: those are not the problem. look in /usr/ and /var/
[15:03] <sipior> golemz: the ntfs filesystem was in a ZVOL?
[15:04] <burhan> abhishek: yes, voice and data coverage are on different frequency bands and channels, so even if you have 100 voice coverage, you may not have data coverage.
[15:04] <axhyn> hey, can anyone confirm that this site works?i just set it up.  http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[15:05] <sresu_> axhyn: Yes
[15:05] <jrib> axhyn: erm, you probably shouldn't publicly link that...
[15:05] <uLinux> lol movies
[15:05] <sweb>  burhan, worked
[15:05] <sweb> :D
[15:05] <burhan> axhyn: use dyndns
[15:05] <axhyn> its dynamic
[15:05] <golemz> sipior: good question.  what's a zvol? a zfs volume?  No, I don't think so.
[15:05] <axhyn> changes every time
[15:05] <burhan> sweb: upgrade your PHP install.
[15:05] <sresu_> erUSUL: erUSUL: /usr/share 3.0 GB !! /lib 2.8 GB /var 1.1 GB
[15:06] <golemz> I tried to tell Windows to use the entire 2.0T disk, but somewhere it is still labeled as zfs which seems to confuse ubuntu
[15:06] <sipior> golemz: use fdisk and see what is listed as the partition type for each disk partition. i have a feeling they won't be the same. might be worth a shot, anyhow.
[15:06] <sweb> burhan, so i reinstall all php5 packages. wha'ts the best command ?
[15:06] <golemz> ok
[15:06] <SnowRaptor> Hello!
[15:06] <uLinux> hi
[15:06] <burhan> sweb: how did you install them before?
[15:06] <axhyn> k thanx for the help
[15:07] <SnowRaptor> When I boot ubuntu into my Inspiron 1501, I get a flickering screen with horizontal black and white lines
[15:07] <isaac_> I open audacious and hide the interfacial with hotkey Alt + M.
[15:07] <Uruk> any reason grub would not respond to the ESC key on boot?  I can't break into the grub menu to boot into single user mode.
[15:07] <SnowRaptor> after X shuts down the monitor (DPMS OFF) and I press any key, the image appears nornmally from then oon
[15:07] <SnowRaptor> any idea how to fix this?
[15:07] <isaac_> but I can't make it shown again~
[15:07] <burhan> sweb: sudo apt-get remove php5-ming php5-interbase php5-lasso && sudo a2enmod php5 && sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[15:07] <Uruk> grub gives me a 3-4 second window to hit escape to enter the menu.  I do, and it boots as normal (into a broken system)
[15:07] <isaac_> Anyone can help me pls?
[15:08] <burhan> sweb: that should fix your problem.
[15:08] <sresu_> erUSUL: Under /usr doc takes up 1.1 GB and under /lib debug takes 1.0 GB
[15:09] <isaac_> I can see the Audacious still running, but I dont know how to show it again.
[15:09] <ttiicc> hello could someone please explaione how the delay option in anacron works?
[15:09] <erUSUL> sresu_: you have a lot of debug libs installed? size of doc is also quite high. check what docs are the biggests. uninstall them if you can ( the same goes for the debug libs )
[15:10] <SnowRaptor> ttiicc: http://linux.die.net/man/8/anacron
[15:10] <sresu_> erUSUL: I really don't know about debug libs but yes I've doc installed.. How to uninstall them?
[15:11] <splashote> hi, any chance to print a PDF correctly if the following fonts are embedded: http://paste.ubuntu.com/523897/ ?
[15:11] <erUSUL> sresu_: it depends. each package has its own docs. and there are some doc only packages. you will have to check what is taking the most space under the two subdirs
[15:12] <gondoi> is there no way to set a custom port in xchat-gnome?
[15:12] <sresu_> erUSUL: I'm not sure how to go about with it.. It would take time
[15:13] <sresu_> erUSUL: For doc, openoffice-6-jre-headless takes 253.6Mb
[15:15] <econdudeawesome> How do I check whether hyperthreading is enabled?
[15:15] <Xaevo> econdudeawesome, in your BIOS
[15:15] <Xaevo> or in your System Monitor
[15:15] <Xaevo> and check if you have double the amount of cores
[15:16] <econdudeawesome> I have a single-core processor, but I see two cores. This is the sign of hyperthreading?
[15:16] <konsumer> gondoi: try server/port
[15:16] <splashote> Nautilus is displayed as the CD-DVD-Creator in Docky. Any hints ?
[15:16] <econdudeawesome> Xaevo: two cores in system monitor, that is
[15:16] <econdudeawesome> Xaevo: if I have a quad core AMD, can I hyperthread?
[15:16] <Xaevo> econdudeawesome, no
[15:17] <Xaevo> AMD's do not have HT
[15:17] <econdudeawesome> Xaevo: thanks.
[15:17] <Xaevo> econdudeawesome, if you want to hyperthread, you should get an I-series intel CPU
[15:17] <k-rad> in my bios when it asks if ubuntu is a plug and play os, do i say yes or no ?
[15:17] <Xaevo> i am using a i7
[15:17] <lunaphyte_> hi.  i'm a little confused about how to use network manager.  when i add a new wired connection, how do it tell it which interface it should use?
[15:17] <Xaevo> k-rad, no
[15:17] <k-rad> thank you
[15:18] <Xaevo> lunaphyte_, probably via the terminal
[15:18] <intick> hey could you tel me how can i have the same dimension of my terminal all the time ? when i close or reboot my cmputer, the terminal open small again :/
[15:18] <jrib> !away > mmmoebius_afk
[15:18] <econdudeawesome> Xaevo: Thanks. I'm just on my atom n280 for the time being :-)
[15:18] <k-rad> is windows xp a viable option in lieu of windows 7 for the sole purpose of running itunes for music purchases ?  and previewing song snippets ?  i think it uses less resources than windows 7, so i'm curious about that.  i'd run it inside of virtualbox within ubuntu
[15:19] <econdudeawesome> k-rad: how does wine turn out for ya with itunes?
[15:19] <jrib> intick: you can pass --geometry GEOMETRY to gnome-terminal
[15:19] <Pici> k-rad: Comparisons of Windows versions would be more appropriate in ##windows
[15:19] <intick> jrib: thx i'll try ;)
[15:20] <k-rad> Pici, my question is relevant here too because it would be run inside of virtualbox under a exclusive ubuntu system.
[15:20] <erUSUL> sresu_: that's a lot. du -hs /usr/share/doc/openjdk-6-jre-headless/
[15:20] <erUSUL> 196K    /usr/share/doc/openjdk-6-jre-headless/
[15:20] <konsumer> k-rad: you can get older versions of itunes that work with wine. go to oldversion.com
[15:20] <BluesKaj> !itunes |  k-rad
[15:20] <erUSUL> sresu_: it only takes 196 KB here
[15:20] <k-rad> konsumer, thank you very much sir
[15:20] <konsumer> np
[15:21] <sresu_> erUSUL: !! 254M  /usr/share/doc/openjdk-6-jre-headless/ here
[15:21] <sresu_> erUSUL: How to remove it then?
[15:21] <erUSUL> sresu_: for the debug issue. i would use synaptic. search packages by name; search debug. uninstall
[15:21] <sresu_> erUSUL: But which packages
[15:22] <erUSUL> sresu_: the ones that end up in -debug
[15:22] <erUSUL> sresu_: do « ls -sh /usr/share/doc/openjdk-6-jre-headless/* » paste the result
[15:22] <cave> j'ai un problème audio avec ubuntu
[15:22] <Pici> !fr | cave
[15:22] <sresu_> erUSUL: I found that api in headless takes 210 MB
[15:23] <kranthi> cant open picassia in ubuntu 10.04....ne sugestionz
[15:23] <intick> jrib: works fine thanks ;) can i also choose the position in the screen where the terminal will be opened ,
[15:23] <erUSUL> sresu_: maybe is openjdk-6-doc ?
[15:23] <intick> jribas: ?
[15:23] <sresu_> erUSUL: Not sure. http://pastebin.com/vKz74sSh
[15:24] <intick> jribas: :/
[15:24] <konsumer> kranthi: http://goo.gl/gUyb
[15:24] <konsumer> gl
[15:25] <marcel_> Hi, there are also German chats?
[15:25] <Pici> !de | marcel_
[15:25] <konsumer> #ubuntu-de
[15:26] <Xaevo> anyone can advise me about a ubuntu version for my Toshiba Satellite L10-154 ?
[15:26] <erUSUL> sresu_: i have to go away; sorry. do the debug thing in synaptic. and uninstall openjdk-6-doc and other packages... ( to find out what package a file belongs to do « dpkg -S /path/to/file » )
[15:26] <erUSUL> sresu_: good luck
[15:26] <Xaevo> 9 works perfectly, 9.04
[15:26] <Xaevo> 9.10 doesn't
[15:26] <sresu_> erUSUL: Thanks for help, no problem :)
[15:26] <Xaevo> 10.04, i dun even bother to try
[15:26] <sresu_> burhan: Thanks
[15:27] <intick> Xaevo: 9.04 is good i got 9.10 on my older toshiba Satellite A10 it's lag too much
[15:28] <intick> i'll downgrade to 9.04 at lest it works fine
[15:28] <kranthi> madmatrix:hi
[15:28] <k-rad> is ubuntuone for file sharing say to public urls a decent option in comparion to dropbox ?
[15:28] <Xaevo> intick, my lappy has a unsupported GPU
[15:28] <Xaevo> intel 855
[15:28] <intick> same here
[15:28] <Madmatrix> Hiiii
[15:28] <intick> GMA is realy a shit
[15:28] <kranthi> vassup
[15:28] <Xaevo> so i had to revert to old crap
[15:28] <Xaevo> it didn't work properly
[15:28] <IdleOne> !language | intick
[15:28] <Xaevo> no visual effects, etc
[15:28] <Madmatrix> Ts
[15:28] <intick> Xaevo: tried to intall intel driver from intellinux but does not work
[15:29] <Madmatrix> T0h:
[15:29] <Pici> !enter
[15:29] <Madmatrix> G0nz0|Boston:
[15:29] <Madmatrix> Qb:
[15:29] <Xaevo> intick, same.
[15:29] <Madmatrix> W1N9Zr0:
[15:29] <IdleOne> Madmatrix: why are you highlighting random people?
[15:29] <Madmatrix> W1N9Zr0: hiii
[15:29] <Madmatrix> E01:
[15:30] <Madmatrix> R3sno:
[15:30] <intick> Xaevo: actually i'm not using my laptop as my maim comp
[15:30] <Xaevo> Madmatrix has a ID10-T error
[15:30] <Madmatrix> R3sno:
[15:30] <IdleOne> !guidelines | Madmatrix
[15:30] <Madmatrix> Ttech:
[15:30] <FloodBot4> Madmatrix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:30] <e01> Madmatrix, ?
[15:30] <intick> Xaevo: so does'nt matter if i'm out to date !
[15:30] <IdleOne> e01: random highlights, ignore it
[15:30] <e01> :
[15:30] <Xaevo> intick, doesn't matter here either
[15:31] <intick> Xaevo: i've read on ubuntu website a compatibility board it says max supported system 9.10 ...
[15:32] <intick> IdleOne: this is bot ? why warning me about language ?
[15:32] <intick> :o
[15:32] <sebsebseb> intick: you mentioned downgrading to 9.04,  what a great idea, if it was still supported
[15:33] <sebsebseb> !9.04 | intick
[15:33] <IdleOne> intick: you used language that is not acceptable in ubuntu channels.
[15:33] <intick> ah yes  i know but i mentionned taht in my case it does'nt matter i use my comp only for musqiue and video things
[15:33] <intick> and 9.04 is the only distro that works fine on it :)
[15:33] <sebsebseb> intick: is it offline?
[15:34] <intick> kinda
[15:34] <sebsebseb> intick: if its not connected to the Internet, then sure using 9.04 is still ok
[15:34] <intick> yes it is
[15:34] <sebsebseb> intick: it is connected?
[15:35] <kranthi> help!i cant open picassa in ubuntu10.04
[15:37] <intick> sebsebseb: yes but i dont really matter, no data on the comp and no privte things only music/video stuff which are in another comp.
[15:37] <intick> (accessing them via smb)
[15:39] <sebsebseb> intick: well security updates are there to keep malicious people out of your computer for example
[15:39] <nothingspecial> When trying to use the framebuffer (links2, fbi, mplayer etc) I don`t have permission to acess /dev/fb0. Do I run them as root, change the permissions of /dev/fb0, or something else
[15:40] <martianlobster> where is the system  button on ubuntu 10.04 netbook remix?
[15:40] <intick> sebsebseb: i know ;) but they can hack me i dont matter i'll format and réinstall as nothing important on my comp ! actually i've tried 9.10 and 10.04 it's so painfull for my comp almost unusable
[15:40] <phasma> upon startup, either GRUB or the OS is setting my refresh rate at 85hz (which is more than my monitor can handle) - Where do I change this? Is it indeed an issue that the OS should be addressing or is GRUB doing this?
[15:41] <intick> martianlobster: alternative solution CTRL + ALF + SUP
[15:41] <sebsebseb> intick: ok be more specific what was the problems with 9.10 and 10.04?  also did you ever try 10.10 on there,  plus there is bound to be some other distro out there that will work well on there :)
[15:42] <enyc> Is this the right channel for detailed technical question?   Im having problems with grub2 and root= when using LVM arguments..., not taking effect.
[15:43] <sebsebseb> intick: also its called crack by the way,  cracker,  media have it wrong,  hacker is a programmer for example
[15:43] <intick> sebsebseb: the main prob was VGA driver  .. tried intellinux one but it requiered a newer kernel ..
[15:43] <martianlobster> intick,  what is?    CTRL + ALF + SUP       do you mean ctrl + alt + S  ?
[15:43] <k-rad> konsumer, you are so awesome.  no need for virtualbox to run windows anything.  latest wine and old itunes 8.0 work just fine even with audio.  i can't express how grateful i am for that tip, thank you.
[15:43] <sebsebseb> intick: graphics card driver?
[15:44] <intick> martianlobster: yes sorry french keyb ^^   so yeah CTRL + ALT + DEL
[15:44] <intick> sebsebseb: yes Intel chipset GMA 855
[15:44] <sebsebseb> intick: hmm and your saying it works in 9.04 hmm and heres why
[15:44] <sebsebseb> !intel | intick
[15:45] <xapel> How do I know which accounts the memenu will publish to?
[15:45] <intick> sebsebseb: with newer ditro like 9.10, 10.04 it does'nt work even with generic driver (ubuntu one)
[15:46] <intick> sebsebseb: with 9.04 it's works fine and fluently
[15:46] <intick> sebsebseb: with generic ubunt driver
[15:46] <sebsebseb> intick: well you could downgrade to 8.04,  still supported untill end of April next year on desktop,  or you could do some distro trying and use something else that works well on there or something.  or just use it offline the computer,  then it really doesn't matter that your stil using 9.04
[15:47] <intick> sebsebseb: yes indeed could be a solution too
[15:47] <sebsebseb> intick: which?
[15:47] <intick> 8.04 one
[15:48] <xapel> is there any official documentation available for how the memenu social integration works?
[15:48] <sebsebseb> xapel: maybe some where
[15:48] <sebsebseb> xapel: What do you want to use it with?
[15:48] <xapel> facebook, twitter, buzz
[15:49] <sebsebseb> xapel: ok uhmm not sure exactly, but I think there are currently still issues with the Facebook support
[15:49] <sebsebseb> xapel: anyway as far as I know its just set up the accounts in Gwibber and stuff should work
[15:50] <sebsebseb> xapel: Buzz isn't the one from Google?
[15:50] <xapel> sebsebseb: thanks
[15:51] <xapel> sebsebseb: Buzz is from google, yes
[15:51] <vinion2000> hey
[15:51] <vinion2000> does anyone know a fix for USB in version 10.10
[15:53] <rigved> hi everyone
[15:54] <Pici> vinion2000: Perhaps if you explained what you're trying to fix we could help you.
[15:54] <dl551> Can anyone here help me figure out this damn wireless problem, it's frustrating me to no end
[15:55] <rigved> i have ubuntu 10.04 AMD64. I want to create a LiveDVD from this harddisk installation. Can anyone suggest a GUI based method to do this? A CLI method will also do, if it does not require too much in-depth knowledge of how linux boots...
[15:55] <dl551> I can connect to my network, but then it'll disconnect itself I try to do anything, and will not reconnect
[15:55] <TomShatt> Hey guys, any way to remove some program from gnome systray?
[15:55] <learnux> is there an issue in file and print sharing with ubuntu32 bit with other computer on ubunt64 bit?
[15:55] <vinion2000> ok well i recently installed ubuntu version 10 on a new pc. since then ive been having problems with my usb microsoft intelligent mouse
[15:56] <intick> marti
[15:56] <TomShatt> How to run Thunderbird in background? :D
[15:56] <vinion2000> i have an older ibm thinkpad that uses hardy but i get no problems with the mouse. also if i try using the ps2 port the mouse will just dance all over the screen
[15:57] <TomShatt> Ubuntu users, what mail client do you use? :D
[15:57] <Pici> !polls | TomShatt
[15:57] <Roasted_> TomShatt, I'm trying to figure that out right now actually.
[15:58] <intick> TomShatt: web interface :o
[15:58] <michiwend> TomShatt, you kan use FireTray to minimize Thunderbird into tray
[15:58] <Roasted_> TomShatt, I'm torn between evolution and thunderbird.
[15:58] <martianlobster> intick:    well I was trying to get to the system -> screensaver    so I could change the time period forautomatic lockout.   I  just discovered something new.   I am using NetBook remix, so the controls are different
[15:58] <sebsebseb> TomShatt: Evolution or Mozilla Thunderbird are most comonly used with Linux distros
[15:58] <rigved> TomShatt: evolution
[15:58] <TomShatt> I don't need to have Thunderbird in tray.
[15:58] <Roasted_> TomShatt, on one hand, I like evolution because it EASILY integrated my google calendar. On the other hand, its a POS otherwise. Very slow, crashes a lot, locks up a lot, etc.
[15:58] <TomShatt> You can use Thunderbird indicator to have Thunderbird in ubuntu-gnome indicator panel.
[15:58] <Roasted_> TomShatt, YET thunderbird is reliable, it works. bam. opens each time. VERY fast. However Thunderbird's integration of lightning extension and google calendar is a complete joke.
[15:58] <TomShatt> Which is where other communication stuff located... like empathy/pidgin/glibber(?) etc
[15:59] <TomShatt> yeah.
[15:59] <vinion2000> is there a way to fix this mouse problem
[15:59] <phasma> upon startup, either GRUB or the OS is setting my refresh rate at 85hz (which is more than my monitor can handle) - Where do I change this? Is it indeed an issue that the OS should be addressing or is GRUB doing this?
[15:59] <rigved> i have ubuntu 10.04 AMD64. I want to create a LiveDVD from this harddisk installation. Can anyone suggest a GUI based method to do this? A CLI method will also do, if it does not require too much in-depth knowledge of how linux boots...
[15:59] <NightDragon> hello all: newbie question, but how do i get a modprobe command to be persistant? like that module will forever be enabled, instead of going away when i restart
[15:59] <Roasted_> so I'm trying to find what I need to compromise in. a PITA email client with awesome calendar, or awesome email client with PITA google calendar?
[15:59] <equus> rigved,  there is a program called remastersys
[16:00] <TomShatt> Roasted_: What did you stop at right now?
[16:00] <r3sno> TheCrow: heh, you are entitled to your opinon
[16:00] <Roasted_> TomShatt, what do you mean what did I stop at?
[16:00] <TomShatt> "choose"
[16:00] <Roasted_> TomShatt, I'll probably end up sticking with thunderbird, because evolution has proven to be unreliable enough that I just dont trust using it as my main mail client.
[16:01] <TomShatt> Roasted_: systray or indicator?
[16:01] <rigved> equus: yes, but it's not available in the software center. so i just wanted to confirm before using it. thanx
[16:01] <Roasted_> TomShatt, I'd rather use google calendar in the web interface + thunderbird for mail instead of trying to rely on evolution for EVERYTHING when it suffers to even open.
[16:01] <TheCrow> r3sno, yes...
[16:01] <Roasted_> TomShatt, I never ran thunderbird in the indicator. This was the first time I ever heard of that being possible.
[16:01] <Roasted_> TomShatt, thunderbird just pops up in the lower right with the email preview for 2-3 secs and I open it when I feel like it. How easy is it to inttegrate it?
[16:01] <vinion2000> has anyone else experience that problem with the usb mouse turning off
[16:02] <Roasted_> vinion2000, once I did, but that was with a faulty mouse.
[16:02] <TomShatt> Roasted_: Indicator takes less space, since it goes in one button, also notification like in pidgin messages is possible too.
[16:02] <Roasted_> TomShatt, yeah I know pidgin shoots up to that icon and turns it green. Thats possible with thunderbird???
[16:02] <TomShatt> Roasted_: Na, i meaned what indicator applet does.
[16:02] <dl551> Why are Broadcom drivers such a pain to get to work
[16:02] <intick> martianlobster: in fact it's a bit different than normal ditro
[16:02] <TomShatt> Roasted_: With notify lib.
[16:03] <Roasted_> dl551, because they are naive and closed source with their drivers.
[16:03] <Hero> 2.6.32-25-generic is the newest kernel ?
[16:03] <Roasted_> dl551, I got so raged with broadcom wifi I ended up ebaying an N wireless card for 14 bucks for my laptop. 100% of my problems were solved just by going to Intel wifi instead of broadcom wifi.
[16:03] <TomShatt> Roasted_: Just, i have only one problem left, how to make thunderbird keep running when i close it.
[16:03] <vinion2000> well thats the problem the mouse isnt faulty
[16:03] <sebsebseb> Roasted_: dl551  broadcom have been doing a experiemental open source driver for some cards recently
[16:03] <Roasted_> dl551, I also sent them a slew of emails to let htem know that I now boycott them. Weeks later, they announced their drivers would be going open source.
[16:03] <NightDragon> lol
[16:03] <vinion2000> it just turns off after a while
[16:04] <lsw8172> sebsebseb: yes, but only for one chipset
[16:04] <Roasted_> sebsebseb, I saw that. IMHO I think its "a bit too late"
[16:04] <Roasted_> VERY VERY poor broadcom. VERY poor.
[16:04] <lsw8172> sebsebseb: but it's a beginngn
[16:04] <dl551> I hope once they (if they) go open source, the dang problems can be fixed
[16:04] <Roasted_> I will avoid them at all costs on any hardware I get from now on. :)
[16:04] <intick> martianlobster: try this After installation see System > Preferences > Power Management. In the General tab you can set what should happen when you press power button, or sleep button, or close the lid of a laptop.
[16:04] <NightDragon> lol roasted, good luck :-/
[16:04] <Roasted_> TomShatt, not sure of that one. I just let it run.
[16:04] <dl551> Sometimes it works, others not. The STA drivers fail
[16:04] <Roasted_> NightDragon, no luck needed. It's very easy to do so with Atheros and Intel being as big as they are. ;)
[16:04] <lsw8172> Roasted_: i always told people: don't buy broadcom or marvell
[16:05] <sebsebseb> lsw8172: marvell don't think I have heard of that one even
[16:05] <NightDragon> intel, sure... atheros?
[16:05] <NightDragon> are they even still around?
[16:05] <Roasted_> I've had more issues here at work with broadcom/Windows than I've had with broadcom/Linux.  Not just Linux.
[16:05] <lsw8172> NightDragon: and they support the atk* driver development
[16:05] <lsw8172> ath*
[16:05] <vinion2000> oh and alot of the time it freeze during high activity
[16:05] <TomShatt> Roasted_: Well, if use systray addon, anyway to use it and remove thunderbird icon from systray? I already have it on indicator, why to have it in tray? xD
[16:06] <Roasted_> TomShatt, good thought. I just havent thought about it.
[16:06] <NightDragon> true... its just that broadcom comes in a *lot* of integrated crap
[16:06] <NightDragon> hell i think wii's have broadcoms in them lol
[16:06] <Roasted_> TomShatt, I was more concerned about trying to make thunderbird act more like Outlook or Evolution (but without the BS) and its proving hard to do so.
[16:06] <Roasted_> NightDragon, dear God... you serious? lol
[16:06] <NightDragon> unfortunately
[16:06] <learnux> can we make ubuntu desktop as a server instead of ubuntu server?
[16:06] <TomShatt> Roasted_: I'm googling right now anything like "hide icon from system tray" but.. no success yet.
[16:06] <dl551> I'm on a old ass SMC USB wireless adapter now because of it
[16:07] <sebsebseb> learnux: you can install server stuff into the desktop version
[16:07] <Guest1948> Hi can someone help me delete one version of linux, i dont know how it came on, but it doesnt work. I think it came on while updating. I cannot use it. Here are some screenshots! oh 2.6.32-24 is the broken one : http://jurl.tk/?LJNXZ http://jurl.tk/?VVPZG
[16:07] <NightDragon> learnux: yes.   I don't really like a giant USB adapter sticking out the side of my notebook.
[16:09] <sebsebseb> !broadcom | dl551
[16:09] <lsw8172> dl551: cat /sys/class/net/wlan0/uevent | grep PHYSDEVDRIVER
[16:09] <Guest1948> Hi can someone help me delete one version  2.6.32-24 of linux, I think it came on while updating, but I cannot use it (it gives an error). Does anyone here know how to remove it from the boot loader? . Here are some screenshots! oh 2.6.32-24 is the broken one : http://jurl.tk/?LJNXZ http://jurl.tk/?VVPZG
[16:09] <AbhiJit> Guest1948, you can uninstall it from synaptic manager
[16:09] <lsw8172> dl551: if the broadcom is a minipci card, you could try to replace it with a different minipci
[16:09] <slashroot> hey
[16:10] <sebsebseb> !lts > learnux
[16:10] <learnux> a database for office the office data...im developing an application for the lending company...im making a database for them...
[16:10] <sebsebseb> !server > learnux
[16:10] <sebsebseb> learnux: ok
[16:10] <rigved> when i try to install remastersys, apt-get asks me to remove grub-pc. Is this correct or will this cause problems in my system?
[16:10] <sebsebseb> learnux: sounds like you want Ubuntu Server Edition 10.04,  or distros such as Debian or CentOS which are also good for servers
[16:10] <learnux> yeah i think that sounds clear to me...
[16:11] <NightDragon> booo :( ubuntu server edition all the way
[16:11] <learnux> sebsebseb ill take that advice...
[16:11] <slashroot> can anyone help me install jw player on maverick
[16:11] <sebsebseb> !server | learnux
[16:11] <uLinux> pts/autorun/usercount.pl
[16:11] <uLinux> 16:07:05 bitlbee_nick_change /home/jorge/pts/autorun/usercount.pl
[16:11] <Guest1948> thank you AbhiJit! it worked!
[16:12] <Roasted_> I always thought it would be cool to have a linux server edition to allow you to launch/kill the GUI accordingly, so that way it doesnt lock you into a terminal-only interface and if need be you can launch the GUI, do your thing, and bounce out of it when you're done and drop to terminal only. Is that possible?
[16:12] <sebsebseb> learnux: Apparently Ubuntu Server is pretty good, but I haven't used it,  however if I was going to set up a server for a business  I would probably go with Debian or CentOS personalley
[16:12] <dl551> The B43 drivers connect but fail to work, and the STA gives a jockey error
[16:12] <learnux> seems the information were too fast for me...whew! im a newbie..trying to digest everthing
[16:12] <AbhiJit> Guest1948, welcome.
[16:12] <Roasted_> sebsebseb, I can attest that we have actually used ubuntu desktop edition to run as a server for some of our applications, and it works great. Just some food for thought to add on the table.