[17:01] <motaka2> ioria: it seems so but the last command didnt work as far as I remember
[17:01] <tatertots> Nitrigaur: in terminal>    sudo apt install inxi pastebinit            let me know once the install has completed
[17:01] <motaka2> notpc: yes
[17:01] <ioria> motaka2, dpkg -l lightdm
[17:01] <notpc> motaka2: motaka2 Do you get a login screen?
[17:01] <RFleming> ioria: he's out of disk space
[17:01] <motaka2> ioria: is that small L ?
[17:01] <ioria> yep
[17:01] <RFleming> he couldn't download the nvidia-current drivers due to space
[17:02] <Nitrigaur> tatertots, I will. Just a sec
[17:02] <ioria> motaka2, no space on disk ?
[17:02] <motaka2> ioria: how can I paste you the results ?
[17:02] <Jazzy_J> masl, I would setup an rsysnc to another system and let it fly for a couple days.
[17:02] <ioria> motaka2, dpkg -l lightdm | pastebinit
[17:02] <motaka2> notpc: no, not anymore
[17:03] <masl> Jazzy_J, can't PV work for directories?
[17:03] <motaka2> ioria: 23817161
[17:03] <Jazzy_J> masl, how fast do you want to back up the terabyte?
[17:03] <notpc> masl: You may not be able to pipe the compression
[17:03] <ioria> motaka2, what's that ... should be an url
[17:04] <notpc> masl: extraction**
[17:04] <notpc> masl: I still recommend using cpulimit. It works well
[17:04] <notpc> motaka2: What happens when you turn on your computer?
[17:04] <motaka2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817161
[17:04] <notpc> motaka2: Do you still have a login screen?
[17:04] <ioria> motaka2, lightdm is ok
[17:04] <motaka2> notpc: no i dont
[17:04] <masl> notpc: what would be the command in this case for cpulimit?
[17:04] <ioria> motaka2, df -<H | pastebinit
[17:05] <ioria> motaka2, df -H | pastebinit
[17:05] <notpc> masl: start the extraction then find the pid
[17:05] <notpc> masl: have you joined the files with cat?
[17:05] <masl> notpc: not yet
[17:05] <notpc> masl: join them
[17:05] <Troy1> Anyone here use a ubuntu machine as a netatalk time machine for mac osx?
[17:06] <masl> notpc: would splitting them and joining them take the same amount of pressure as it would in extracting them?
[17:06] <notpc> motaka2: How are you entering commands into the machine? are you ssh'd in?
[17:06] <notpc> masl: no
[17:06] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817177
[17:06] <Guy1524> I have obs-studio version 16 installed, however I am unable to launch with command line parameters
[17:06] <Guy1524> they all do nothing
[17:06] <ioria> motaka2, /dev/sda1        78G   70G  3.9G  95% /
[17:06] <masl> notpc: the .tar is still in the process of being made, it'll be done after 5/4 hours
[17:06] <motaka2> notpc: no I used ctrl+alt+f7
[17:07] <notpc> motaka2: So you do have a desktop?
[17:07] <Jazzy_J> faster = more resources, regardless of the method used.  If you need to do an initial backup, limit it with rsync to another system, no hacking involved.  once the initial is achieved, rsync the diff.  That will consume the least amount of resources and will be controllable. Other options would be to clone the disk.
[17:07] <ioria> motaka2,  you may need to free some space
[17:07] <motaka2> ioria: whats that ?
[17:07] <ioria> motaka2,  your disk is 95% full
[17:08] <masl> notpc: would "cpulimit -l 13 -- tar -chzf file.tar" be the command?
[17:08] <motaka2> notpc: no as I told you as soon as the system reboots it show me your system is running on low graphics
[17:08] <ioria> motaka2,  apt-get autoremove what it says ?
[17:08] <motaka2> ioria: would that delete my essential files?
[17:08] <ioria> motaka2,  nope .... what are essential files ?
[17:09] <ioria> motaka2,  you mean personal ?
[17:09] <notpc> masl: I thought you're already creating the tar
[17:09] <masl> notpc: im trying to find the command to use later
[17:09] <motaka2> ioria: yes like my projects etc
[17:09] <notpc> motaka2: rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[17:10] <notpc> masl: to extract it?
[17:10] <motaka2> ioria: cant i paste the result of apt-get autoremove ?
[17:10] <ioria> motaka2,  run the command,  see what it says, and say 'no' if uncertain
[17:10] <ioria> motaka2,  sure
[17:10] <masl> notpc: yes
[17:10] <notpc> masl: okay one sec
[17:10] <masl> notpc: ok
[17:11] <notpc> masl: Do you have the cat command?
[17:11] <masl> notpc: yes
[17:12] <Nitrigaur> tatertots, sorry for the wait, my VM seems to have hung up on itself during cache update when adding muniverse and multiverse as software sources (inxi wasn't found in the std. repo's loaded by the Ubuntu Desktop Live DVD (16.04.1))
[17:12] <notpc> masl: cpulimit -l 10 tar -xvf foo.tar
[17:12] <notpc> masl: I'll test it.
[17:12] <masl> notpc: okay
[17:13] <motaka2> ioria: it seems in this case it doesnt work, i type them here:  E: could not open lockfile /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: permission denied)  E: unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg) are you root ?
[17:13] <Nitrigaur> tatertots, I'm restarting to try and fix it.
[17:13] <ioria> motaka2, using  sudo  ?
[17:14] <arooni> how do i handle this; Err http://dl.google.com/linux/musicmanager/deb stable/main amd64 google-musicmanager-beta amd64 <IP_ADDRESS>6-r0
[17:14] <arooni>   Hash Sum mismatch
[17:14] <motaka2> ioria: yes i used so do and i get many no space left on device. I know files that I dont need and hence I can delete them
[17:14] <motaka2> ioria: should I do that ?
[17:15] <ioria> motaka2, sudo apt-get autoremove   not working at all ?
[17:15] <RFleming> motaka2: I think your lubuntu config is broken, but I don't know where exactly.
[17:15] <tatertots> Nitrigaur: inxi is in the official ubuntu repos for ubuntu 16.04 AND 16.10, i have used it with multiple users in this very same chat room....so maybe we can revisit the matter on a installed system....livecd/liveusb is usually a readonly affair
[17:16] <RFleming> motaka2: I think the best option would be to reinstall lubuntu-desktop
[17:16] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817338
[17:16] <RFleming> motaka2: first stop lightdm and then reinstall... sudo service lightdm stop && sudo apt-get install --reinstall lubuntu-desktop
[17:17] <noimnotninevolt> tatertots: all users -- it's basically a clean install.
[17:17] <motaka2> RFleming: it seems my first problem is lack of space
[17:17] <ioria> motaka2, ls /boot
[17:17] <noimnotninevolt> pretty sure it's an issue with how qemu-kvm is reporting the mouse position to the guest and ubuntu's inability to cope with it.
[17:17] <noimnotninevolt> i'll try changing from relative to absolute, see if that makes a difference.
[17:17] <motaka2> ioria: you want a pastebinit of that ?
[17:17] <Nitrigaur> tatertots, I have installed lots of software into a liveDVD session before. Sure, it gets lost after a restart, but I could still use the tools I had installed.
[17:17] <ioria> yep
[17:18] <RFleming> motaka2: can you run sudo du -hs /* | pastebinit
[17:18] <noimnotninevolt> does ubuntu come with virtio drivers for itself? (i mean, if it's running in a vm, does it have the appropriate drivers to use virtualized hardware exposed via virtio?)
[17:18] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817344
[17:18] <tatertots> Nitrigaur: just wanted you to know inxi IS in the repos for 16.10 and 16.04 confirmed less than 48 hours ago
[17:18] <Nitrigaur> tatertots, the reason I'm starting from a LiveDVD is that I can edit the partition table with impunity.
[17:19] <masl> notpc?
[17:19] <ioria> motaka2, yes, it's a bit populated
[17:19] <motaka2> ioria: am I fuckeduo again then ?
[17:19] <motaka2> RFleming: your command is taking long
[17:19] <notpc> masl: cpulimit -l 10 -- tar -xvf foo.tar
[17:20] <ioria> motaka2,  you should remove unsude (old) kernels on a 70g disk ...
[17:20] <ioria> *unused
[17:20] <notpc> masl: I'll still test it. Making some large .tar files
[17:20] <Linnak> Hi, Is it possible somehow to get antivirus from Bitdefender and Kaspersky rescue cd and put it on a custom Ubuntu live usb?
[17:20] <motaka2> ioria: i will do that, but prior to that i can delete at least 10 gigs of unused files, may I do that first ?
[17:21] <ioria> motaka2,  sure
[17:21] <motaka2> ioria: is RFleming last command necessary since it is taking too long ?
[17:22] <ioria> motaka2,  if you already know what you can delete ....
[17:22] <ioria> motaka2,  that command should give you "the big files" ...
[17:22] <motaka2> ioria: i will wait some minutes more. does taking out extra kernels help ?
[17:23] <ioria> motaka2, yes
[17:23] <motaka2> ioria: to permanently remove the directoried i dont need i should run sudo rm -r /path/to/directory   ?
[17:24] <ioria> motaka2, yes, but play easy with that
[17:24] <motaka2> ioria: what do you mean? you mean I should be cautious ?
[17:24] <notpc> masl: Looks like it has some effect
[17:25] <ioria> motaka2, yes, be absolutly sure of what you want to remove
[17:25] <notpc> masl: It's cutting the cpu usage
[17:25] <notpc> motaka2: Did you clear your trash?
[17:25] <notpc> motaka2: rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[17:26] <motaka2> notpc: yes
[17:26] <masl> notpc: okay i'll use it later, thank you very much!
[17:26] <notpc> masl: If it has issues, lower the -l value
[17:27] <notpc> motaka2: inxi -G | pastebinit
[17:28] <notpc> motaka2: glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[17:29] <motaka2> notpc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817389
[17:29] <bud> ???
[17:29] <motaka2> ioria: deleting the download folder in home/donkarlo/Download doesnt disturnb ubuntu ?
[17:29] <Nitrigaur> tatertots, would it help you if I pastebin a photograph (a literal screenshot) of my current setup as seen from the server installer of Ubuntu?
[17:30] <ioria> motaka2, remove the content not the folder
[17:30] <motaka2> ioria: how ?
[17:30] <notpc> motaka2: lspci | pastebinit
[17:30] <ioria> motaka2,  rm -rif ~/Downloads/*
[17:31] <motaka2> notpc: please wait so I can fulfill what ioria is saying then I will listen to you
[17:31] <notpc> motaka2: make sure there's nothing in Downloads you want to keep
[17:31] <oditector> hey gus
[17:31] <baboom> hello guys, UbuntuMate here. It renames my network interfaces in ways that are hard to use. Is there a way to get to a plain "eth" format?
[17:31] <oditector> hguys
[17:31] <tatertots> Nitrigaur: in terminal>   apt-cache search inxi|nc termbin.com 9999
[17:32] <oditector> I use tiemu and in thast the famous ti-89 calculator, but when i maximize it I can't move it?
[17:32] <motaka2> ioria: how can I recheck how much space i have now ?
[17:32] <notpc> motaka2: df -h
[17:32] <oditector> just installl tiemu yourself guys ansd see it
[17:32] <ioria> motaka2,  ^
[17:32] <BlueProtoman> I have an mSATA solid-state drive, but it's suddenly read-only for some reason.  Even with admin access I can't save files to it.  I'm running Ubuntu 16.10.  What's going on?
[17:32] <notpc> motaka2: df -h | pastebinit
[17:32] <oditector> anyone can tell me wha'ts the matter with this pariticular package?
[17:33] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: can you open terminal?
[17:33] <oditector> this package when maximised I just cannot navigate up and down in the calculator ?
[17:33] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: Yes
[17:33] <oditector> so what can i do guys?
[17:33] <motaka2> ioria: notpc http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817407/
[17:33] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: in terminal>    sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[17:33] <notpc> lots of space
[17:33] <ioria> motaka2,  try   sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:34] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: Got them both already, what next?
[17:34] <oditector> does ankyone has any ideas, if not where do i ask about it ? Yes it's a native package and not in the add-apt repository which is added by th users and not ubuntu
[17:34] <oditector> I hope ubuntu will help me in this matter?
[17:34] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: in terminal>    inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebin
[17:34] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: share url/link here
[17:35] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817413/
[17:35] <motaka2> ioria: the same error. E: write error - write (28: no space left on the device)
[17:35] <Nitrigaur> tatertots, this is what I got: inxi - full featured system information script
[17:35] <vicious_mag> http://www.wearethong.com
[17:35] <ioria> motaka2,  what is 'overflow'  that gives 100% of /tmp
[17:35] <vicious_mag> oh sorry, misstake
[17:35] <motaka2> ioria: what ?
[17:36] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: in terminal>    sudo parted -l|pastebin
[17:36] <ioria> motaka2,  look at bottom http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817407/
[17:36] <motaka2> ioria: i dont know what that is. I have not used /tmp
[17:36] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817418/
[17:36] <ioria> motaka2,  run  mount
[17:36] <Goldberg84> hi
[17:36] <tatertots> Nitrigaur: i gave you two packages to install 20 minutes or so ago, get it done, let me know when it's done...and when i'm done ...i'll let you know
[17:37] <motaka2> ioria: you want a pastebin ?
[17:37] <ioria> yep
[17:37] <Pici> oditector: Theres not a lot of support resources available for this package. I'd suggest not maximizing it.
[17:37] <Nitrigaur> tatertots, thanks for the help, I really appreciate it :-)
[17:37] <motaka2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817426
[17:37] <Goldberg84> Is the a ubuntu server geek how can help me with my ubuntu installation multi problems. PM?
[17:38] <ioria> motaka2,  you have overflow   mounted on /tmp  .... what's that , you know ?
[17:38] <Zythyr> Has anyone here used FIM (Fbi improved) ?
[17:38] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: in terminal>    lsblk -o name,size,type,fstype,uuid,mountpoint|pastebin
[17:38] <motaka2> ioria: no I dont know
[17:39] <LordNelthon> what is currently more recommended, bumblebee or nvidia-prime?
[17:39] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817441/
[17:40] <ioria> motaka2,  ah, ok http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60731/overflow-tmp-mounted-when-there-is-free-space-on
[17:40] <oditector> Pici: thanks but the calculator is too small and i can't really read it
[17:40] <motaka2> ioria: I should read that link ?
[17:41] <ioria> motaka2,  nope :p
[17:41] <Pici> oditector: Can you resize it without maximizing it?
[17:41] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: the 250 or the 1tb is the m2?
[17:41] <notpc> motaka2: lspci | pastebinit
[17:41] <oditector> Pici: also if I can't see it there is no point in ding it, yes I can, have you installed it? but I can't use it peroperly as even after resizing it's really too small nad bad for me
[17:41] <beremaran> Is bumblebee still being used?
[17:42] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: The 250
[17:42] <motaka2> ioria: then what should I do ?
[17:42] <oditector> I mean not the buttons but the text in the screen
[17:42] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: The disk in question is mounted at /home/jesse/Common
[17:42] <ioria> motaka2,  you are in console right now ?
[17:42] <BlueProtoman> (it's data I share between my Windows and Linux installs.  Music, code, pictures, etc.)
[17:43] <motaka2> ioria: yes using ctrl+alt+f1 i am in something so-called hard terminal
[17:43] <ioria> motaka2,  uname -r
[17:43] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: in terminal>    cat /etc/fstab|pastebin
[17:43] <oditector> how do you know what else can I do to deal with this popular calculator as it is just wonderful , but the bad package or the rom image won't allow me to use it properly That is thte real source of my frustation and problem and also anxiety , and i need and really need to use the calc as it is the only thing taht really meets my needs
[17:44] <LordNelthon> beremaran: I used it in the past. Now I'm returning to linux and checking what is recommended
[17:44] <motaka2> ioria: http://pste.ubuntu.com/ 23817456/
[17:45] <motaka2> ioria: http://pste.ubuntu.com/23817456/
[17:45] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817464
[17:45] <BlueMagma> Hi, I need help to fix my wifi
[17:45] <notpc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817456/
[17:45] <ioria> motaka2,  apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{83,85,86,87}-generic
[17:45] <Pici> oditector: I don't have a gui linux install here to test on, sorry.
[17:46] <BlueMagma> I'm on a HP pavilion X360. I looked around and applied a few fixes already
[17:46] <ioria> motaka2,  with sudo
[17:47] <BlueMagma> My laptop connect to other wifi network, but It doesn't detect my network at home even though my other laptop detect it
[17:48] <sulfasal> for Xubuntu: how do I put an icon(?) into the start menu so I don't have to execute a program from the cli?
[17:48] <motaka2> ioria: the same error
[17:48] <notpc> BlueMagma: Is it a dual band network?
[17:48] <ioria> motaka2,  can you paste ?
[17:49] <motaka2> ioria: http://pste.ubuntu.com/23817479/
[17:49] <RFleming> sulfasal: Menu -> Settings Manager -> Menu Editor
[17:49] <BlueMagma> motpc : I don't know, this is a university network
[17:49] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817479/
[17:49] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: in terminal>    ls -ld /home/jesse/|pastebin
[17:49] <BlueMagma> notpc : I don't know, this is a university network
[17:49] <RFleming> motaka2: work is busy today.
[17:49] <RFleming> sorry
[17:49] <sulfasal> RFleming: thanks, goin' in...
[17:50] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817485/
[17:50] <notpc> BlueMagma: ifconfig | pastebinit
[17:50] <motaka2> RFleming: thanks for helping me any way
[17:50] <RFleming> motaka2: where are you on your issue?
[17:51] <motaka2> notpc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817489/
[17:51] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: in terminal>    ls -ld /home/jesse/Common|pastebin
[17:51] <motaka2> RFleming: I dont know, ioria say a file called /tmp is 100% full
[17:51] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817485/
[17:51] <genii> tatertots: pastebinit
[17:51] <ioria> motaka2,  no, that's not an issue, i guess
[17:52] <oditector> Pici: you are on ubuntu and you don't have GUI
[17:52] <beremaran> Wow, glad to learn "pastebinit"
[17:52] <oditector> ioria: can you help me with this package
[17:52] <motaka2> ioria: what more should I do ?
[17:52] <BlueMagma> notpc : pastebin will be difficult because there is no connection on the laptop. I have three interface : enp2s0, lo, wlp3s0
[17:52] <RFleming> motaka2: did you send a df -h to pastebin?
[17:52] <motaka2> RFleming: it took so long, so I cancelled it
[17:52] <oditector> ioria: can you support me with this pkg tiemu , and how to use it and move up and down
[17:52] <ioria> motaka2,  what i don't understand is why apt it's not working with 9G free
[17:52] <notpc> BlueMagma: ah, yes
[17:53] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: look closely
[17:53] <RFleming> motaka2: it takes a long time because it's stating your filesystem and taking account of all your files.
[17:53] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: At what?
[17:53] <notpc> BlueMagma: lspci  look for wireless
[17:53] <motaka2> ioria: if necessary I can get rid of my music too
[17:53] <oditector> is it possible, i know I am ready to tweak it toa better way if possible , come on on it and just give me a reference
[17:53] <TvL2386> hey guys, I'm trying to find out the default compression algorithm for zfs on ubuntu-16.04
[17:53] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: look closely, you owe me two unique url/links...NOT the same url two times
[17:53] <oditector> why does ubuntu give such a packages and no way to deal
[17:53] <motaka2> RFleming: now I have 9gigs free
[17:53] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: Oops, sorry
[17:53] <RFleming> motaka2: that's good
[17:53] <RFleming> motaka2: so what's the problem now?
[17:54] <oditector> andthat too a very ver y famous and popular peice of software
[17:54] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817494/
[17:54] <DolphinDream> howdy bunterz
[17:54] <motaka2> RFleming: I don't have a desktop and I keep recieving you are running on low-graphic
[17:54] <notpc> motaka2: sudo apt-get install nvidia-304
[17:54] <RFleming> you have an nvidia card
[17:54] <motaka2> RFleming: it seems so
[17:54] <DolphinDream> after installing bash-completion package.. how do i get all the bash_completion.d modules to load ? do i source that folder or is there a different way to do it ?
[17:55] <ioria> motaka2,  maybe the video issue can wait until you fix apt
[17:55] <motaka2> notpc: ioria said lightdm is working fine
[17:55] <RFleming> motaka2: are you presented the login window?
[17:55] <BlueMagma> notpc : Realtek Semiconductor RTL8723BE
[17:55] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: in terminal>    sudo chown jesse:jesse /home/jesse/Common
[17:55] <ioria> motaka2,  i said it's installed
[17:55] <motaka2> RFleming: not anymore
[17:55] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: in terminal>    ls -ld /home/jesse/Common|pastebin
[17:55] <motaka2> ioria: what should I do ?
[17:56] <RFleming> motaka2: this is lubuntu 14.04?
[17:56] <motaka2> RFleming: yes
[17:56] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: "chown: changing ownership of '/home/jesse/Common': Read-only file system"
[17:56] <ioria> motaka2,  graphic can wait ... let's fix apt
[17:56] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: "drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 Jan 16 19:07 /home/jesse/Common"
[17:56]  * RFleming is thinking
[17:56] <RFleming> motaka2: run the following 2 commands...
[17:56] <motaka2> ioria: ok
[17:57] <RFleming> motaka2: sudo service lightdm stop
[17:57] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: in terminal>    sudo umount /home/jesse/Common
[17:57] <ioria> motaka2,  try to reboot and run sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:57] <notpc> BlueMagma: lsmod | grep rtl8723
[17:57] <motaka2> ioria: is it enough to press reset button on my case?
[17:57] <ioria> motaka2,  sudo reboot
[17:57] <RFleming> motaka2: rm ~/.Xauthority
[17:57] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: Okay, now what?
[17:57] <RFleming> motaka2: sudo apt-get install --reinstall lubuntu-desktop
[17:57] <RFleming> 3 commands
[17:57] <RFleming> sorry
[17:58] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: in terminal>    sudo mount -a
[17:58] <motaka2> RFleming: please wait so i can finish with ioria .   "The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0). Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount. Falling back to read-only mount because the NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting.)"
[17:59] <RFleming> notpc: how can apt be broken?
[17:59] <motaka2> ioria: rebooting
[17:59] <notpc> RFleming: Everything breaks
[17:59] <RFleming> motaka2: what's the problem with apt?
[17:59] <notpc> BlueProtoman: mount read only
[17:59] <BlueMagma> notpc : no result with this exact grep. a few with 8723. What should I look for ?
[17:59] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: I was using Windows last night...I THOUGHT I disabled that feature.
[17:59] <motaka2> RFleming: i dont really know
[17:59] <RFleming> what error are you seeing with apt?
[18:00] <kang00> What's .iso file
[18:00] <RFleming> kang00: a CD image file
[18:00] <roothorick> this is incredibly hard to google for because I couldn't find a relevant error in the Xorg log. Everything looks good and then out of the blue glamor and AIGLX fail with cryptic, generic errors
[18:00] <notpc> BlueMagma: Just seeing if that module is running. Any way you can get a wired connection temporarily? Do you see networks in your wireless network manager at all?
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> !iso | kang00
[18:00] <eightfold> what is a simple way of performing full (system) disk backups for linux without restarting the computer and booting into some live usb/cd?
[18:01] <roothorick> and, the initialization of the ondie goes through fine far as I can tell, xrandr can see it
[18:01] <roothorick> but its outputs are not present
[18:01] <RFleming> kang00: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_image
[18:01] <RFleming> dpm
[18:01] <motaka2> ioria: once again i saw the login. but no desktop icons
[18:01] <roothorick> does X think this is a hybrid system and getting confused when the GPUs can't talk to each other?
[18:01] <motaka2> ioria: what should I do ?
[18:01] <RFleming> don't PM without asking first
[18:01] <notpc> BlueMagma: How are you on IRC? another machine?
[18:01] <ioria> motaka2,  open a console
[18:01] <eightfold> deja-dup seems ok if you don't want to backup anything more than your homefolder
[18:02] <genii> eightfold: remount all your mounts read-only, then use dd to make an image of the drive to a filename on a larger second drive
[18:02] <RFleming> motaka2: your lubuntu desktop is corrupt.  You need to reinstall it
[18:02] <BlueMagma> notpc : I have no eth connection. Yes, another pc. I can see some wireless network, mine appear simetimes, but very low, and I cannot connect. My other pc is on this network
[18:02] <motaka2> ioria: ctrl+alt+t does not work. should i go for ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[18:02] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: in terminal>    sudo umount /home/jesse/Common
[18:02] <ioria> motaka2,  yes, or f2
[18:03] <BlueMagma> notpc : the signal is very strong on the other pc
[18:03] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: Why do I need to unmount it now?  I know what the problem is, I just need to shut down properly in Windows (can't do that now because of something unrelated)
[18:03] <motaka2> RFleming: should I reinstall something as RFleming says ?
[18:03] <genii> eightfold: Then after the initial drive image is made, you can later mount the subpartitions within it and rsync to those
[18:03] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: in terminal>    sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[18:03] <notpc> BlueMagma: The machine that is connected. Is it running linux?
[18:03] <RFleming> motaka2: what happens when you run apt-get update?
[18:03] <RFleming> motaka2: sorry, that should be sudo apt-get update
[18:04] <notpc> motaka2: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[18:04] <BlueMagma> not the one I use for irc, but I got another with ubuntu
[18:04] <BlueMagma> notpc : not the one I use for irc, but I got another with ubuntu
[18:04] <notpc> BlueMagma: The one you use for irc.. what are you running?
[18:04] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: ;)
[18:04] <motaka2> RFleming: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817550/
[18:04] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: did it initialize?
[18:04] <BlueMagma> notpc : also, the ubuntu one is connected to the same wifi network if that is what you are trying to know
[18:04] <RFleming> motaka2: also run 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit'
[18:05] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: Yes it did, thanks!
[18:05] <BlueMagma> notpc : the one I use for irc is windows 10
[18:05] <motaka2> ioria: are you there ?
[18:05] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: what % we at?
[18:05] <notpc> BlueMagma: Just wondering if you can create a bridge to at least get the laptop online to make things easier
[18:05] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: wait...i forgot does it give a percentage completed?
[18:05] <notpc> BlueMagma: do you have a cat 5 cable?
[18:05] <ioria> motaka2,  if you can't run sudo apt-get autoremove (or purge something) without errors you have bigger problem thatn graphics
[18:06] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: It's done
[18:06] <BlueMagma> notpc : I might let me check
[18:06] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: in terminal>    sudo mount -a
[18:06] <BlueProtoman> tatertots: Yep, it worked, thanks!
[18:06] <motaka2> RFleming: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817567/
[18:06] <tatertots> BlueProtoman: ;)
[18:07] <RFleming> motaka2: ok, now 'sudo apt-get upgrade | pastebinit'
[18:07] <motaka2> ioria: seems autoremove is working now
[18:07] <tatertots> Nitrigaur: you ready
[18:07] <ioria> motaka2,  sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{83,85,86,87}-generic
[18:07] <BlueMagma> notpc : nope, I don't have one here
[18:08] <tatertots> NEXT!!
[18:08] <BluesKaj> too many Blue-nicks here today :-)
[18:08] <motaka2> ioria: processing ...
[18:08] <motaka2> RFleming: please wait
[18:09] <BlueMagma> notpc : but if you feel it's possible, you can tell me what to look for
[18:09] <ioria> motaka2,  when it finishes  paste again   df -H
[18:09] <motaka2> ioria: taking too long is that a bad sign ?
[18:10] <RFleming> motaka2: not necessarily]
[18:10] <ioria> motaka2,  just started ... mate :þ
[18:10] <BlueMagma> notpc : the problem of wifi with this hardware look really known
[18:10] <masl> notpc what was the command again for cpulimit
[18:10] <notpc> BlueMagma: I was looking at that
[18:10] <motaka2> ioria: can go 10 mins to buy something to eat
[18:10] <BlueMagma> notpc : http://askubuntu.com/questions/677621/no-wireless-connection-on-hp-pavilion-x360-convertible
[18:10] <ioria> motaka2,  as you wish
[18:11] <notpc> masl: limit -l 10 -- tar -xvf foo.tar
[18:11] <motaka2> ioria: will you be here ?
[18:11] <ioria> motaka2,  yep
[18:11] <motaka2> ioria: thanks I will be back soon
[18:11] <ioria> motaka2,  ok
[18:11] <BlueMagma> notpc : i tried the first answer, and the second one, currently acer_wmi is blacklisted
[18:12] <notpc> BlueMagma: lsmod |grep acer_wmi
[18:12] <BlueMagma> notpc : on my work network, I can connect to wifi, but not at home
[18:12] <notpc> BlueMagma: that is bizarre
[18:12] <BlueMagma> notpc : no result for acer_wmi
[18:13] <notpc> good
[18:13] <BlueMagma> notpc : I've got result for hp_wmi though
[18:13] <notpc> BlueMagma: Looks like that's for a hinge switch
[18:15] <RFleming> anyone know if there's an up-to-date ubuntu cinnamon derivative?
[18:15] <notpc> BlueMagma: The network shows up in your list, but at too low a strength to connect?
[18:16] <Menzador> RFleming: Not that I know of... Mint is the closest, unless you prefer Debian Testing
[18:16] <Menzador> (straight Debian Testing, that is)
[18:16] <dax> or just ubuntu with cinnamon installed
[18:16] <RFleming> Menzador: Mint... bleh
[18:16] <BlueMagma> notpc : yes, and on boot it can 'not appear' at all sometimes
[18:17] <notpc> BlueMagma: Looks like a few people are complaining about the wifi
[18:17] <RFleming> there used to be that ubuntu-cinnamon remix a few years ago... and there's the embryosyn repo that's for LTS and STS ubuntu
[18:17] <notpc> BlueMagma: you might be better off getting a usb wifi adapter if it's just a problem with the onboard
[18:17] <RFleming> but why work? :)
[18:18] <BlueMagma> notpc : yes, I tried to install ubuntu on this laptop in dual boot a year ago and gave up because of that.
[18:18] <notpc> BlueMagma: You could also potentially replace or add a new mini pcie adapter inside the machine
[18:18] <BlueMagma> notpc : ok, thank you for your time. It was very nice of you to help me
[18:18] <notpc> BlueMagma: do you get the same issue in windows?
[18:19] <BlueMagma> notpc : no same pc works fine on windows (although it happened a few timed that windows caused trouble with wifi, but I think it was for other reasons)
[18:20] <notpc> BlueMagma: Could be an issue with the driver itself. You can try building a newer version
[18:20] <BlueMagma> good idea, do you know which driver is used for this hardware ?
[18:21] <notpc> BlueMagma: module is rtl8723be
[18:22] <BlueMagma> notpc : I could try that  http://askubuntu.com/questions/760970/realtek-driver-rtl8723be-not-working-in-ubuntu-16-04-kernel-4-4
[18:22] <BlueMagma> notpc : say it could be a bios configuration
[18:23] <notpc> BlueMagma: Try it. Should be Del or F2
[18:23] <motaka2> ioria: it is finished
[18:23] <notpc> during boot
[18:23] <ioria> motaka2,  df -H
[18:23] <motaka2> pastebin ?
[18:23] <ioria> yes
[18:23] <steven_> If I am unable to figure out why Ubuntu will not wake from suspending. What harmful effects would not suspending my laptop upon closing the lid and only turning off the display have?
[18:24] <notpc> BlueMagma: hp might be f10
[18:24] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817639/
[18:25] <notpc> steven_: Your laptop stays on and uses power and the hard drive spins and wears out faster
[18:25] <ioria> motaka2,  df -H
[18:25] <steven_> So probabley should just figure out why its not waking from suspend?
[18:26] <steven_> I had to use nomodeset when installing? Could that have something to do with it?
[18:26] <motaka2> ioria: I did that
[18:26] <ioria> motaka2,  nope
[18:26] <notpc> motaka2: Where is your monitor plugged in?
[18:26] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817638/
[18:27] <motaka2> notpc: what do you mean ?
[18:27] <notpc> motaka2: Where your monitor is connected to your computer
[18:28] <ioria> motaka2,  ok, you may need to purge other kernels ... but the main thing is that now apt works ...
[18:28] <motaka2> ioria: ok what should I do next ?
[18:28] <BlueMagma> notpc : on reboot it doesn't seem fixed, I'll give it a few minute to see if it see the network
[18:28] <ioria> motaka2,  paste   sudo lshw -c Video
[18:28] <notpc> BlueMagma: It was worth a shot
[18:29] <notpc> BlueMagma: You might need to find a newer driver than what is available in the repositories. I would do that at home though where you can connect.
[18:29] <BlueMagma> notpc : ok, I'll do that
[18:29] <motaka2> ioria: processing ..., you don't need a paste do you ?
[18:30] <ioria> motaka2,  yes, i need it
[18:30] <motaka2> ioria: sure
[18:30] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817656/
[18:31] <BlueMagma> notpc : thank you again
[18:31] <ioria> motaka2,   can you paste  dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[18:31] <notpc> BlueMagma: No worries. Sorry couldn't help more
[18:31] <notpc> BlueMagma: If you figure it out let me know how you got there
[18:32] <BlueMagma> notpc : sure, I'll be back :-)
[18:32] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817666/
[18:33] <ioria> motaka2,    what happens if   you    sudo service lightdm restart   ?
[18:34] <motaka2> ioria: i see a login page
[18:34] <motaka2> graphically
[18:34] <ioria> then ?
[18:34] <motaka2> ioria: should I login ?
[18:34] <ioria> motaka2,    why not ?
[18:35] <motaka2> ioria: I did and it showed me first a dialogg box that there is a problem and now it is vanished and I dont have the mouse pointer too. just i see a colorful desktop with no icons
[18:35] <motaka2> ioria: now I see  the login page again
[18:36] <ioria> motaka2,    try the Guest Account
[18:37] <motaka2> ioria: it first told me a new version of ubuntu available and now it is showing me a black desktop and now it show the login page without the previous colorful desktop
[18:38] <ioria> motaka2,    so you can't  login in the Guest Account ?
[18:38] <motaka2> ioria: i can but it jumps abck to the login page after 10 seconds
[18:39] <RFleming> motaka2: rm ~/.Xauthority
[18:40] <ioria> motaka2,    before remove    paste  ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[18:42] <motaka2> ioria: say invalid option l
[18:42] <ioria> motaka2,    sorry, ls -al ~/.Xauthority
[18:42] <motaka2> ioria: says paste: invalid option -- 'a'
[18:43] <ioria> motaka2,    ls -al ~/.Xauthority   (without paste)
[18:43] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817717/
[18:44] <ioria> motaka2,    we can try to purge nvidia drivers
[18:45] <motaka2> ioria: what about  rm ~/.Xauthority ? should I run it ?
[18:45] <RFleming> ioria: I don't think it's video.  It most likely is lubuntu-desktop itself
[18:45] <ioria> motaka2,    you can remove if you want, itll be recreated
[18:45] <RFleming> ioria: I believe lightdm was messed up, and lubuntu-desktop is now as well
[18:45] <ioria> RFleming, maybe
[18:46] <motaka2> ioria: removed, what's next ?
[18:46] <RFleming> ioria: reinstalling lubuntu-desktop should also reinstall and reconfigure lightdm
[18:46] <RFleming> stopping lightdm before reinstalling lubuntu-desktop should ensure it is
[18:47] <RFleming> ioria, motaka2: might I suggest 'sudo service lightdm stop && sudo apt-get install --reinstall lubuntu-desktop' for your consideration?
[18:48] <ioria> RFleming, sure
[18:48] <ioria> motaka2, ^^
[18:48] <motaka2> RFleming: how much internet does that need?
[18:48]  * RFleming shrugs
[18:49] <RFleming> all of this http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/lubuntu-desktop
[18:49] <motaka2> motaka2: I just have one 700 meg , i dont want it to break in the middle
[18:49] <ioria> motaka2, do you have some ppa installed ?
[18:49] <crazycoder> hello
[18:49] <crazycoder> should i install proprietary driver?
[18:50] <motaka2> ioria: i dont knpow. I can buy more but will take 1 hours. So what ever you say I will do
[18:50] <RFleming> crazycoder: depends on what you want to do
[18:50] <notpc> crazycoder: I think I recommended that
[18:50] <motaka2> ioria: RFleming 700 meg is not enough ?
[18:50] <ioria> motaka2,    ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[18:50] <RFleming> motaka2: are you downloading over cellular?
[18:51] <motaka2> RFleming: no, that's just the way it is in iran
[18:51] <motaka2> RFleming: so what do you suggest ?
[18:51] <RFleming> motaka2: my bare install says it will download 336 MB
[18:51] <motaka2> RFleming: so that must be enough, isnt it ?
[18:52] <RFleming> it 'should' be enough
[18:52] <crazycoder> RFleming, what do you mean? i want to use the pc... :D ahah
[18:52] <crazycoder> :P
[18:52] <RFleming> crazycoder: hardy har har
[18:52] <motaka2> RFleming: what happens if i discoonect , will my whole system in trouble or I can just re-run that command ?
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> crazycoder  he means, what do you want to do with your pc, read emails and surf the net, or play games and watch long movies
[18:53] <ioria> motaka2,  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[18:53] <crazycoder> oh
[18:53] <crazycoder> i do machine learning
[18:53] <RFleming> motaka2: you have to download the packages to install.  If you disconnect before all the packages are downloaded, it should give you an error and not do the install
[18:54] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817771/
[18:54] <RFleming> crazycoder: basically, is what you want to do GPU intensive?
[18:54] <RFleming> do you need fast 3D?
[18:54] <ioria> motaka2, yes, you have ppa...
[18:54] <motaka2> RFleming: so in case i disconnect i can redo all with no worries?
[18:55] <crazycoder> RFleming, unfortunately not....the machine learning framework does not support GPU acceleration
[18:56] <RFleming> crazycoder: then proprietary graphics drivers will not benefit you.
[18:56] <RFleming> crazycoder: you can still install them if you want to do games and stuff though
[18:56] <crazycoder> RFleming, yes you are right but i am reading driver for intel cpu
[18:56] <ioria> motaka2,  when you have a minute paste   cat ~/.xsession-errors
[18:56] <RFleming> I don't think there are proprietary intel graphics drivers.  I think they have them right in the kernel
[18:57] <RFleming> intel does have proprietary code for CPU which fixes problem with companies too lazy to put bios updates
[18:57] <crazycoder> Processor microcode firmware for intel CPU <---- i read this
[18:57] <motaka2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817795
[18:58] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817795
[18:58] <ioria> motaka2,  gnome-session (Unity ) ? are you on lubuntu ?
[18:58] <RFleming> crazycoder: yeah, always install that... that fixes CPU bugs that vendors don't patch via BIOS
[18:58] <crazycoder> ok
[18:58] <motaka2> ioria: I had lubuntu before this problem
[18:58] <RFleming> That's Intel's way around this
[18:59] <motaka2> motaka2: actually when it was booting it was showing me lubuntu icon
[18:59] <crazycoder> RFleming, ok
[18:59] <ioria> motaka2,   grep cdrom  /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:00] <crazycoder> one last thing...i always think i have something for AMD somewhere...
[19:00] <crazycoder> today i changed my motherboard, cpu and dimm
[19:00] <crazycoder> are you really sure i do not need a complete reinstall of the OS?
[19:00] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817825
[19:01] <RFleming> crazycoder: you should be fine.  Ubuntu provides packages as pre-compiled binaries... so long as you are not changing architecture, you should be fine.
[19:01] <ioria> motaka2,   you're not on lubuntu but ubuntu, and i think you're trying to log in Unity
[19:01] <motaka2> ioria: so what has happened?
[19:02] <crazycoder> RFleming, yes i am with 64bit
[19:02] <crazycoder> i was using 64 bit with AMD
[19:02] <ioria> motaka2,   not in lxsession... so try to restart lightdm and select from the little ubuntu logo (or in the top bar)  'lubuntu'
[19:03] <RFleming> crazycoder: you should be alright
[19:03] <crazycoder> RFleming, ok perfect!....last thing...do you know a good gnome application to know the cpu temp ?
[19:03] <RFleming> crazycoder: everything is compiled in a generic fashion so it runs on the most hardware
[19:04] <crazycoder> RFleming, that's awesome
[19:04] <motaka2> ioria: there is no lubuntu, there is just openbox and ubuntu
[19:04] <RFleming> crazycoder: gnome-system-monitor
[19:04] <ioria> motaka2,   dpkg -l lxsession
[19:05] <motaka2> ioria: shouldnt i try openbox ?
[19:05] <ioria> motaka2,   openbox comes with lubuntu-desktop .....
[19:05] <ioria> motaka2,   dpkg -l lxsession
[19:06]  * RFleming doesn't really use system monitor tools
[19:06] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817872
[19:06] <RFleming> crazycoder: are you using ubuntu-gnome?
[19:06] <crazycoder> ok
[19:06] <crazycoder> RFleming, yes
[19:06] <RFleming> crazycoder: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/82/cpu-temperature-indicator/
[19:07] <ioria> motaka2,   and you don't have lubuntu (or lxde) in your sessions ? just openbox and unity (ubuntu) ?
[19:07] <RFleming> crazycoder: you might want to look for a newer version
[19:07] <motaka2> ioria: i dont have lubuntu , i clicked on the ubuntu icon next to the shutdown button on top right
[19:08] <crazycoder> RFleming, thanks
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[19:08] <ioria> motaka2,   sudo apt-get install --reinstall lubuntu-desktop
[19:08] <RFleming> crazycoder: np.  You should change your nick... /nick sanecoder
[19:08] <RFleming>  you seem pretty sane to me
[19:09] <crazycoder> :D
[19:09] <crazycoder> ahah
[19:09] <quitecrazycoder> :D
[19:09] <motaka2> MonkeyDust: wait ... restarting
[19:09] <Amis> Hi! Can someone tell me how can I force Ubuntu to open a specific extension with an appliacation? At "Right click"/"Properties" it sees my ".tpl" file as a "HTML document" so rebinding it to something else also rebinds ".html" files.
[19:10] <Amis> I want to bind by extension, not perceived file type
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> Amis  and what are tpl files?
[19:10] <Amis> MonkeyDust, custom text files with invalid HTML code
[19:11] <Amis> They cannot be rendered as proper HTML
[19:11] <faerel> ami
[19:11] <ioria> motaka2,   you need to select the lubuntu session from the login screen , you know it right ?
[19:11] <Herbalist> right click .. Open With ... Other Application
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> Amis  i have no solution, but you may want to read this, first http://file.org/extension/tpl
[19:14] <motaka2> ioria: in the login screen i clicked on the small ubuntu logo on top right of the desktop
[19:14] <Amis> Herbalist, I can select my prefered application but it does not remember it as the default and keeps opening it with a browser
[19:14] <ioria> motaka2,   above the password box ..
[19:14] <Amis> Herbalist, there is no checkbox or anything to make it the default
[19:14] <ioria> motaka2,   but really depends on your login screen
[19:15] <motaka2> ioria: there is nothing above password box, it is on far right to of my monitor
[19:15] <ioria> motaka2,   ok.... what you see ?
[19:15] <Herbalist> there should be a checkbox
[19:15] <quitecrazycoder> RFleming, i also found PSENSOR
[19:15] <Herbalist> remember choice
[19:15] <ioria> motaka2,   when you click on that, i mean
[19:16] <Herbalist> you're right .. i have no checkbox either
[19:16] <RFleming> quitecrazycoder: ok
[19:16] <RFleming> quitecrazycoder: there's another extension called Freon
[19:16] <motaka2> ioria: on the top right part of my screen there is shut down button , then another icon and then language selection and then ubuntu small logo. I click on ubuntu small logi and it shows me ubuntu and openbox
[19:16] <Amis> Herbalist, I have a MATE system elsewhere and Caja does have that checkbox
[19:17] <Herbalist> perhaps they recently removed it
[19:17] <ioria> motaka2,   no lubuntu, also after reinstalling it ?   dpkg -l lubuntu-desktop
[19:17] <Herbalist> in that case, i think Selecting an App will make it default
[19:17] <RFleming> quitecrazycoder: that's old too
[19:17] <Amis> Herbalist, unfortunately it does not
[19:17] <Herbalist> hm
[19:18] <quitecrazycoder> RFleming, it seems to do the job
[19:18] <DPR> anyone use THEFATRAT ? :)
[19:18] <RFleming> quitecrazycoder: you can also use conky if you're brave enough :)
[19:18] <zuiss1> hi. have windows on my hard drive and made space to install ubuntu. in the ubuntu installer there's only one encryption option that says "guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted lvm" but i only want to encrypt ubuntu, not the entire disk which would wipe out windows. can anyone please help?
[19:18] <motaka2> ioria: I have not yet installed it
[19:18] <RFleming> or crazy enough :D
[19:18] <ioria> motaka2,   please paste   apt-cache policy  grep lubuntu-desktop
[19:19] <ioria> motaka2,   please paste   apt-cache policy  lubuntu-desktop
[19:19] <Amis> Herbalist, I'll just install Caja then...
[19:19] <quitecrazycoder> ahah RFleming
[19:19] <quitecrazycoder> ok
[19:19] <Herbalist> Amis no wait
[19:19] <Amis> Hm?
[19:20] <Herbalist> Amis .. right click ... Properties ... Open With
[19:20] <Herbalist> there is the "set as default" button
[19:20] <Amis> Herbalist, yes but because it recognizes my tpl file as a HTML document it also modifies ".html"
[19:21] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817957
[19:21] <Amis> Herbalist, I just checked /usr/share/applications/defaults.list and it seems file associations are based on perceived type rather then extension
[19:21] <ioria> motaka2,  i'd try      sudo apt-get install --reinstall lubuntu-desktop
[19:22] <Amis> If it deems something as a HTML document - even if it's a .exe - it will try to open it with whatever it would try with a .html file
[19:22] <motaka2> ioria: what about this one? sudo service lightdm stop && sudo apt-get install --reinstall lubuntu-desktop
[19:22] <hydrajump> can anyone pls explain why despite adding `acpi_osi=Darwin` and `thunderbolt` to /etc/modules the apple thunderbolt ethernet adapter won't get recognised by ubuntu live cd?
[19:22] <ioria> motaka2,  it's ok
[19:24] <motaka2> ioria: running
[19:24] <motaka2> ioria: it finished, isnt it abnormal ?
[19:25] <ioria> motaka2,  reboot
[19:25] <Herbalist> Amis you could try to manually edit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[19:25] <WeiJunLi> im using Vmware fusion added an USB controller there through the hardware setting bar but I still cannot access my USB flash drive on the Ubuntu, help?
[19:27] <motaka2> ioria: now I have lubuntu and lubuntu netbook and openbox and ubuntu. by default ubuntu is selected
[19:27] <ioria> motaka2,  lubuntu
[19:28] <ioria> motaka2,  select lubuntu
[19:30] <motaka2> ioria: now I can see my icons but it say there is a problem and if I like to report. in one of warning dialogs it says a problem occured while installing package initramfs-tools 0.103ubuntu 4.6
[19:30] <ioria> motaka2,   ls /var/crash
[19:31] <motaka2> ioria: can I chat with you from that computer ?
[19:31] <ioria> motaka2,   sure
[19:31] <ioria> !info  initramfs-tools trusty
[19:32] <ioria> motaka2,      paste     ls /var/crash
[19:32] <MtotheM> Anyone know a good program to use with GSM? phonecalls / sms etc
[19:33] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23818028/
[19:34] <ioria> motaka2,      sudo rm  /var/crash/*
[19:34] <RFleming> MtotheM: what are you looking for?
[19:34] <RFleming> (to accomplish)
[19:34] <motaka2> ioria: rm: cannot remove ‘/var/crash/*’: No such file or directory
[19:34] <MtotheM> Instead of having hardline or a mobile phone, i wanna have a home phone that can operate over linux RFleming
[19:34] <MtotheM> If possible
[19:35] <MtotheM> Or i want to play around and see how it works
[19:35] <MtotheM> saw adafruit has some GSM modules https://www.adafruit.com/product/1946
[19:36] <ioria> motaka2,     cd /var/crash
[19:36] <RFleming> MtotheM: gsm-utils is what you may be looking for on the command line
[19:36] <MtotheM> I'll look at that, thanks RFleming
[19:36] <motaka2> ioria: there I am
[19:36] <RFleming> MtotheM: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/gsm-utils
[19:36] <ioria> motaka2,     la -al   and remove all the files in there
[19:37] <motaka2> ioria: there is just a .lock file there
[19:37] <RFleming> MtotheM: other than that, I have no clue :)
[19:37] <ioria> motaka2,     http://paste.ubuntu.com/23818028/  ???
[19:37] <MtotheM> RFleming, Yeah, i don't really know either. can't find much information, thanks though
[19:38] <RFleming> MtotheM: NP, good luck!
[19:38] <WeiJunLi> im using Vmware fusion added an USB controller there through the hardware setting bar (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/zv1pft6i0r17w4l/2017-01-16%20at%209.02%20AM.png) but I still cannot access my USB flash drive on the Ubuntu, help?
[19:38] <ioria> motaka2,     paste again   ls -al /var/crash
[19:38] <RFleming> WeiJunLi: Are you using a USB3 controller on the host?
[19:39] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23818062/
[19:39] <WeiJunLi> USB Compatibility is 2.0
[19:39] <WeiJunLi> Don't know if I should use 3 though
[19:39] <ioria> motaka2,    ok, you removed all.   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:39] <WeiJunLi> RFleming
[19:39] <RFleming> WeiJunLi: USB Compatibility may be 2.0, but is the physical USB port a USB3 port?
[19:40] <motaka2> ioria: what upgrade does? it upgarades me to 16.04 ?
[19:40] <ioria> motaka2,   nope
[19:40] <motaka2> ioria: ok
[19:40] <RFleming> WeiJunLi: if the physical USB port is USB 3, then you need to turn on USB3 compatibility on the virtual machine
[19:40] <motaka2> ioria: done
[19:40] <RFleming> the pass-through doesn't work well otherwise
[19:40] <ioria> motaka2,   no errors ?
[19:42] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23818079/
[19:42] <WeiJunLi> RFleming: honestly dunno what is this one
[19:42] <Amis> Herbalist, I solved my problem of extensions by defining a brand new extension in my ~/.local/share/mime/packages then adding my mime to /etc/mime.types then restarting the system. Funny how this very simple task which takes only a few click elsewhere can become so overcomplicated
[19:42] <WeiJunLi> it's a mac pro
[19:42] <ioria> motaka2,   chrome issue ... are you 32 bit ?
[19:42] <RFleming> WeiJunLi: try setting it to USB 3
[19:42] <motaka2> ioria: yes I am
[19:43] <ioria> motaka2,   no google chrome  anymore for 32bit
[19:43] <motaka2> ioria: my system is old
[19:43] <Herbalist> Amis good job
[19:43] <ioria> motaka2,   you can remove that source
[19:43] <motaka2> ioria: is that a big issue?
[19:43] <ioria> motaka2,  weel run an unsupported browser ? yes
[19:43] <ioria> motaka2,  remove the source
[19:44] <motaka2> ioria: i will return back to firefox
[19:44] <ioria> motaka2,  yes
[19:44] <motaka2> ioria: why I lost my desktop and all thoses troubles?
[19:44] <ioria> motaka2,  wait .... sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:44] <motaka2> ioria: whats that ?
[19:45] <ioria> motaka2,  you're already are 107... but only to be sure you're fully upgraded
[19:45] <McLovinMcLovin> i could use some noob friendly help in the following:
[19:45] <motaka2> ioria: that doesnt move me to 16.04 ?
[19:45] <ioria> motaka2,  nope
[19:46] <motaka2> ioria: ok
[19:46] <McLovinMcLovin> i want to try encoding plain text(!) with either a) base58 or b) base64 while having a password added to that for extra security. any easy ways to do it via terminal, without knowing all about coding/linux in general? ( i know about sudo apt-get install lol )
[19:46] <McLovinMcLovin> important:
[19:47] <McLovinMcLovin> it must be 2 way encodeable. i must be able to decode it flawlessly back and forth.
[19:47] <RFleming> McLovinMcLovin: openssl enc
[19:48] <McLovinMcLovin> RFleming is that for base58 or base64? (keep in mind: I only may use one of those two)
[19:48] <montanos> youyou
[19:48] <motaka2> ioria: finished
[19:48] <ioria> motaka2,   errors ?
[19:48] <RFleming> McLovinMcLovin: example... openssl enc -base64 -salt -in file.txt -out file.txt.enc
[19:49] <McLovinMcLovin> RFleming okay, and how would i do that w/out using a file, just with plaintext in terminal?
[19:49] <McLovinMcLovin> using files would make everything more difficult for me. have quite a lot to encode/decode manually.
[19:49] <McLovinMcLovin> so plaintext would be better.
[19:50] <motaka2> ioria: i dont see any
[19:50] <McLovinMcLovin> (needs to be encoded all separately, which is why i can
[19:50] <McLovinMcLovin> can't use files)
[19:50] <ioria> motaka2,   ok,  df -H   again
[19:50] <RFleming> echo "message" | openssl enc -base64 -a -salt -k PASS
[19:51] <tomreyn> McLovinMcLovin: are you trying to protect the 'encided' stuff from unauthorized access then, or just to make it look less obvious?
[19:51] <tomreyn> *'encoded'
[19:51] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23818119/
[19:51] <ioria> motaka2,   sudo apt-get autoremove
[19:51] <Southern_Gentlem> tomreyn, looks like homework
[19:51] <McLovinMcLovin> RFleming what part would be the password part then?
[19:51] <RFleming> -k PASS
[19:51] <motaka2> ioria: done no error
[19:51] <McLovinMcLovin> yes but what is salt for
[19:52] <tomreyn> Southern_Gentlem: could be, but then it's an F or E with the current approach taken.
[19:52] <ioria> motaka2,   ok, but what is says ? o to remove ?
[19:52] <rewlk_> today I found idea for psychological fun i Ordinary open office is there new version do enybody know what will be new on this?
[19:52] <RFleming> McLovinMcLovin: salt is autogen
[19:52] <RFleming> McLovinMcLovin: here, test this...
[19:53] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23818126/
[19:53] <Gustorn1> hello! how do i read async keyboard input on ubuntu
[19:53] <McLovinMcLovin> RFleming ok thanks. last thing: if i change -base64 to -base58, it would use a different "base58" encoding compared to Bitcoin's base58 encoding, correct??
[19:53] <tomreyn> RFleming: did you notice what Southern_Gentlem wrote?
[19:53] <RFleming> echo SXQgV29ya3MhCg== | openssl enc -base64 -a -d -k hunter123
[19:54] <Random832> McLovinMcLovin, in the sense that it would complain that there's no such thing, yes, it would use a different encoding.
[19:54] <RFleming> tomreyn: meh...
[19:54] <ioria> motaka2,   apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{88,91,95,96,98,100,101}-generic
[19:54] <McLovinMcLovin> Random832 sorry i must be too stupid, i did not quite get your message
[19:54] <RFleming> so he gets an A on his homework, and fails the exam
[19:54] <Random832> openssl doesn't have a "-base58"
[19:54] <McLovinMcLovin> RFleming, wrote that down, will try in my ubuntu box later. thanks!
[19:55] <McLovinMcLovin> btw no homework. just trying something out.
[19:55] <McLovinMcLovin> with bitcoin.
[19:55] <Gustorn1> Do any of you fine chaps know how to read async keyboard input?
[19:55] <Gustorn1> The specialist on duty is currently active, yes?
[19:55] <RFleming> Gustorn1: in C?
[19:56] <Gustorn1> C++
[19:56] <Gustorn1> OOP is the only way to go in 2017
[19:56] <RFleming> Gustorn1: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/717572/how-do-you-do-non-blocking-console-i-o-on-linux-in-c
[19:56] <Gustorn1> You don't, really
[19:57] <Gustorn1> So windows can do async input but linux can't?
[19:57] <McLovinMcLovin> Random832 i have this base58 encoder (JS i think), it prints out something so it exists.
[19:57] <motaka2> ioria: still working
[19:57] <ioria> yep
[19:57] <Random832> yes but that is not part of openssl
[19:57] <McLovinMcLovin> widely known from brainwallet.
[19:57] <motaka2> ioria: didnt we run this once?
[19:57] <McLovinMcLovin> ohh i understand
[19:57] <Random832> openssl does not have an option called "-base58" or any knowledge of any base58 encoding
[19:57] <ioria> motaka2,   you got a bunch http://paste.ubuntu.com/23817344/
[19:58] <McLovinMcLovin> Random832 I recall reading few nights ago, that "Bitcoin's base58 encoding differs from regular base58 encoding." --> ?????? maybe i just read something from a total BS website?
[19:58] <McLovinMcLovin> openssl aside.
[19:58] <Random832> there's no base58 standard
[19:58] <motaka2> ioria: yeah right. may I ask what your main profession is?
[19:59] <Random832> there are several things, including bitcoin, that use a similar concept, but i wouldn't call any of them "regular base58 encoding"
[19:59] <McLovinMcLovin> Random832 seems correct what you said: https://www.google.de/search?q=base58+encoding&oq=base58+encoding&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2576j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 <-- looks like it's from BTC itself and that's about it.
[20:00] <ioria> motaka2,   translator :þ
[20:00] <McLovinMcLovin> i vanish into the tunnels of noobish terminal hell/heaven now, thanks. if i succeed, i may come back with something funny
[20:00] <motaka2> ioria: howcome you become so professional in linux?
[20:01] <ioria> motaka2,   i'am not
[20:01] <motaka2> ioria: you are far away from me
[20:01] <Gustorn1> Guys, windows getAsyncKeystate -> ubuntu ????
[20:03] <JimmyNeutron> When installing Ubuntu 16.10, does the distro automatically format all EFI partitions?  The checkbox for format is gray out.
[20:03] <motaka2> ioria: it still is working
[20:03] <ioria> yep
[20:03] <motaka2> ioria: my desktop telegram does not open
[20:05] <ioria> motaka2, i don't use it ...  is it  from the ubuntu repos or from a ppa ?
[20:05] <kulelu88> how do I uninstall a gedit plugin from the commandline? I cannot restart gedit after activating a plugin
[20:06] <motaka2> ioria: none, just a file i installed, i think it was a .deb file
[20:07] <motaka2> ioria: it was working perior to the problem. it is not important i just scraed it might be a part of a bigger problem
[20:07] <ioria> motaka2, ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | grep telegram
[20:08] <motaka2> ioria: nothing
[20:09] <motaka2> ioria: the previous command is finished
[20:09] <ioria> motaka2, ok,  sudo update-grub
[20:09] <motaka2> ioria: finished
[20:09] <ioria> motaka2,  df -H again please
[20:10] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23818254/
[20:11] <ioria> motaka2,  you need more space ...
[20:12] <ioria> motaka2, apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{103,105}-generic
[20:12] <motaka2> ioria: i can delete more files as well
[20:12] <KaitoDaumoto> i got question here, what's the diffrent between ubuntu server & standard ubuntu
[20:12] <ioria> motaka2,  or in few weeks you'll be in the same troubles
[20:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !server
[20:13] <motaka2> ioria: I will delete. more
[20:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> KaitoDaumoto,  that $^^^
[20:13] <ioria> motaka2, sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{103,105}-generic
[20:13] <tomreyn> "a server special kernel" seems to be outdated, though
[20:14] <tomreyn> *specific
[20:14] <tomreyn> who updates ubottu responses anyways?
[20:14] <KaitoDaumoto> oh
[20:14] <motaka2> ioria: running
[20:14] <ioria> oky
[20:16] <ioria> motaka2, may i suggest you an external hd for your projects ?
[20:17] <motaka2> ioria: I had one it fell and it didnt work. external hds are less reliable. but I will move my music there
[20:18] <motaka2> ioria: how can I get rid of mono
[20:18] <motaka2> ioria: netbeans doesnt work either
[20:18] <ioria> motaka2, you remove them , if you don't use it
[20:19] <motaka2> ioria: i dont use it, how can I remove it ?
[20:20] <ioria> motaka2, the previous  has finished ?
[20:20] <motaka2> ioria: yes
[20:20] <ioria> motaka2, ok, reboot and remember to check the session you log in
[20:21] <ioria> motaka2, i don't think your system support unity
[20:21] <motaka2> ioria: ok i will comeback to say thank you
[20:21] <ioria> motaka2, so select lubuntu
[20:27] <motaka2> ioria: thank you everything is fine. just in booting the ubuntu nice page is replace by an ugly dos like window which is not important as long as it is not the sign of a new problem and the telegram does not work yet
[20:28] <KaitoDaumoto> wew
[20:28] <ioria> motaka2, ok, so remove mono and netbeans will gain you space
[20:28] <motaka2> ioria: i need netbeans but I will remove mono
[20:29] <ioria> motaka2, and for telegram depends on how you installed it
[20:30] <xangua> You only need a browser and telegram web client
[20:30] <ioria> motaka2, dpkg -l | grep mono* should help you to identify the pkgs... mono-complete or monodevelop
[20:31] <xangua> Huh Ubuntu no longer comes with mono preinstalled, what did I miss?
[20:32] <ioria> xangua,  mono is c# don't think it comes by default
[20:35] <motaka2> ioria: thank you very much. you did a lot to me. Thank you
[20:35] <ioria> motaka2, no problem .   you installed telegram in this way ? https://blog.mypapit.net/2015/08/how-to-install-telegram-cli-in-ubuntu-lts-deb.html
[20:43] <chris_99> Hi, there aren't any official images for VirtualBox are there per chance of Ubuntu that provide a GUI (rather than a server install)? (rather than installing to a virtual disk from an iso)
[20:43] <KaitoDaumoto> i use server too chris_99
[20:44] <KaitoDaumoto> checking for Tcl configuration... configure: error: Can't find Tcl configuration definitions. Use --with-tcl to specify a directory containing tclConfig.sh
[20:44] <KaitoDaumoto> ...
[20:44] <Southern_Gentlem> chris_99, i would rather install from an iso than to trust someones VM
[20:45] <KaitoDaumoto> yep agree with Southern_Gentlem :)
[20:45] <chris_99> Southern_Gentlem, yeah i was looking for a trusted VM image
[20:47] <zamba> after adding an NTP server in /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf, what do i need to do to make these changes effective?
[20:48] <ducasse> zamba: restart systemd-timesyncd.service
[20:49] <zamba> how?
[20:49] <ducasse> zamba: sudo systemctl restart systemd-timesyncd.service
[20:49] <zamba> no output
[20:49] <ducasse> zamba: good.
[20:49] <zamba> and timedatectl still shows: "NTP synchronized: no"
[20:50] <ducasse> zamba: systemctl status systemd-timesyncd.service
[20:50] <Southern_Gentlem> zamba could it be using chrony instead
[20:50] <zamba> Condition: start condition failed at Tue 2017-01-17 21:49:32 CET; 51s ago
[20:50] <zamba>            ConditionFileIsExecutable=!/usr/sbin/ntpd was not met
[20:50] <zamba> god damn.. administering your own computer has become a nightmare
[20:50] <RFleming> you have ntp installed?
[20:50] <ducasse> zamba: ntpd is installed, so it won't run
[20:50] <zamba> Southern_Gentlem: ok, and how do i check that?
[20:51] <mklauber> I'm having difficulty forwarding DNS requests across a OpenVPN connection.  Is this the right place to ask?
[20:51] <Guest72745> i've got a 14.04 x64 server only VM.  It has for some reason rebooted and is not coming back up.  It seems to get stuck around mounting my NFS shares.  However, getting into RECOVERY or booting off a    14.04 disk and looking at the syslog/messages isn't getting me anywhere.  Where can I start looking to find the cause?  Thanks!
[20:51] <zamba> ok, removed ntp
[20:52] <zamba> and then i got status: synchronized to time server x
[20:52] <zamba> but still not yes on ntp synchronized
[20:52] <RFleming> Guest72745: if it's stuck mounting NFS shares, then those shares are not visible to your machine and it's waiting for them to become available.
[20:53] <Guest72745> RFleming, the thing is, this has worked in the past...i'll check my other ubuntu machine
[20:53] <RFleming> Guest72745: you most likely want to change fstab to have the 'soft' option on your system
[20:53] <Guest72745> RFleming, so i checked my other ubuntu machine, and it's working.
[20:54] <RFleming> Guest72745: It doesn't mean that your NFS volumes are down, just that it cannot mount them... for instance, if it's trying to mount the volume before networking comes up
[20:54] <RFleming> (although that should be a dependancy)
[20:54] <Guest72745> RFleming, let me verify that...
[20:55] <RFleming> Guest72745: the best option would be to use the intr option in fstab
[20:56] <Guest72745> so not the 'soft' option, RFleming
[20:56] <RFleming> Guest72745: yes... less likelihood of corruption using intr
[20:56] <Guest72745> let me lookup the intr option, i'm not familiar with it.
[20:56] <motaka2> ioria: sorry i was dining, I didnt see your message
[20:57] <RFleming> Guest72745: you might also want to set a time0=n value as well
[20:57] <RFleming> err timeo=
[20:57] <motaka2> ioria: lemme check the link  https://blog.mypapit.net/2015/08/how-to-install-telegram-cli-in-ubuntu-lts-deb.html
[20:58] <pgos10> Hello! good morning guys...
[20:58] <RFleming> afternoon pgos10
[20:58] <Guest72745> time0 is a timeout value?  if it can't mount in time0=n, then continue the boot?
[20:58] <RFleming> Guest72745: no... that was me being dumb... timeo=n
[20:59] <motaka2> ioria: I installed from the website from here https://desktop.telegram.org/
[20:59] <Guest72745> timeo=n is a timeout?
[20:59] <RFleming> Guest72745: yes
[20:59] <RFleming> how long to wait before it gives up the connection attempt
[21:00] <Guest72745> from the manpage:  The  time  in  deciseconds  (tenths of a second) the NFS
[21:00] <Guest72745>  client waits for a response before  it  retries  an  NFS
[21:00] <Guest72745>  request.
[21:00] <RFleming> well, before it retries
[21:00] <Guest72745> looks like a retry?
[21:00] <Guest72745> ah, ok
[21:00] <RFleming> it will retry so many times before it stops
[21:00] <RFleming> minimizing the wait time minimizes the time waiting
[21:01] <RFleming> the default is OK, but if you're on your own network and know your devices... turning that down
[21:01] <RFleming> well, saves you from waiting
[21:01] <RFleming> :)
[21:01] <zuiss1> can anyone tell me if the author of this tutorial means for you to install ubuntu in the tiny root partition he created, or if i am supposed to later create a /home partition seperately? https://askubuntu.com/questions/293028/how-can-i-install-ubuntu-encrypted-with-luks-with-dual-boot/293029#293029
[21:02] <Guest72745> shoot...it's a RO filesystem...
[21:03] <Guest72745> rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking
[21:03] <RFleming> zuiss1: root and swap are on the big partition
[21:04] <motaka2> RFleming: thanks for your help and your care
[21:04] <RFleming> zuiss1: actually... his pictures and his sentences don't make sense
[21:04] <RFleming> motaka2: you're welcome.
[21:05] <zuiss1> RFleming: so in his guide, the home directory would go into root? in that case root would need to be much bigger than 8GB in his example right?
[21:06] <RFleming> zuiss1: looks like he's using a virtual machine, so the 8GB partition is his big partition.  The entire disk is 13.80GiB :)
[21:06] <groundzero_> hello
[21:06] <groundzero_> why does my ubuntu machiene opens 10+ processes from firefox altough i have opened one simple website
[21:06] <groundzero_> wtf
[21:07] <RFleming> groundzero_: plugins
[21:07] <groundzero_> a plugin becomes a whole new process on my pc? holy
[21:08] <groundzero_> that sounds like a securitz issue
[21:08] <RFleming> groundzero_: it's to prevent the crashing of a plugin from taking the whole browser down
[21:08] <zuiss1> RFleming: ok. so if i follow his tutorial and then go into the ubuntu installer in step 7, i would not create and assign a /home since everything would be going into root, right
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> groundzero_  in a terminal type   ps -e | grep firefox ... use a pastebin to show it to the channel ...http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:08] <RFleming> zuiss1: I don't know... I'd read it very carefully first
[21:08] <KaitoDaumoto> hm
[21:08] <RFleming> use a Virtual machine to test
[21:08] <Harekiet> Anyone know if there's some builtin package that generates an extra grub entry to boot your system read/only with an overlay?
[21:09] <Guest33301> Hey. I am trying to run Nightwatch using Selenium standalon on Ubunto 16.10. It says Connection refused! Is selenium server started? It works on Fedora 24. Please help
[21:09] <zuiss1> RFleming: ok
[21:09] <groundzero_> 2620 ?        00:02:57 firefox
[21:09] <RFleming> Guest33301: is the selenium server started?
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> groundzero_  you say 10
[21:10] <groundzero_> exsudo htop shows me 10+
[21:10] <groundzero_> sudo htop
[21:10] <k1l_> no need to give every program sudo permissions
[21:11] <k1l_> groundzero_: webbrowsers do split their actions into different processes. its not a security issue.
[21:11] <RFleming> zuiss1: do you know if luks supports TPM?
[21:11] <groundzero_> alright
[21:11] <groundzero_> i'll just ignore it then
[21:11] <groundzero_> thank you
[21:11] <zuiss1> RFleming: what's TPM?
[21:11] <Elimin8er> question, Ubuntu 16.10, seems no mater what kernel I install, it gets stuck at initial loading ramdisk.. my 4.5 which has been there for almsot forever.. boots no problem, but that was installed long ago, but anything now installed wont work.. even 4.4 installes and doesnt boot.. any help or what?
[21:12] <RFleming> zuiss1: hardware chip 'Trusted Platform Module' which lets the encryption key be stored in hardware
[21:12] <RFleming> if the hardware changes, the drive doesn't decrypt without entering in a key
[21:13] <zuiss1> RFleming: that sounds cool but i don't know if luks supports it
[21:15] <ducasse> RFleming: iirc, there is work being done on that - there was an article on lwn.net a while back.
[21:16] <RFleming> ducasse: Thanks!  I'll look around for that.
[21:16] <RFleming> One of the things I like about encryption in Windows
[21:17] <KaitoDaumoto> wew
[21:17] <ducasse> RFleming: https://lwn.net/Articles/674751/ - i think there was one more as well, but can't find it rn.
[21:17] <RFleming> ducasse: http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/124338/right-way-to-use-the-tpm-for-full-disk-encryption
[21:18] <RFleming> bookmarked.  Thanks ducasse
[21:23] <Guest72745> RFleming, i wonder if I'm running into this bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1118447
[21:27] <WeiJunLi> im using Vmware fusion added an USB controller there through the hardware setting bar (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/zv1pft6i0r17w4l/2017-01-16%20at%209.02%20AM.png) but I still cannot access my USB flash drive on the Ubuntu, help?
[21:27] <arog> hey
[21:27] <arog> in top I am seeing cpu usage at 400% and 117%
[21:27] <arog> does 100% = 1 core and 117 = 1 core fully utilized + 17% of another core?
[21:29] <k1l_> arog: yes, you can look at "htop" which has got basic gui visualisation for that
[21:29] <arog> thanks
[21:32] <iSky87> Hello, i need help with my audio system
[21:32] <iSky87> Can i please have help with my sound
[21:33] <lethu> iSky87, what's your problem?
[21:33] <WeiJunLi> someone can help me
[21:33] <lethu> WeiJunLi, ask your question
[21:33] <iSky87> Everything says theres audio,
[21:33] <WeiJunLi> im using Vmware fusion added an USB controller there through the hardware setting bar (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/zv1pft6i0r17w4l/2017-01-16%20at%209.02%20AM.png) but I still cannot access my USB flash drive on the Ubuntu, help?
[21:33] <WeiJunLi> lethu
[21:33] <iSky87> but actually its nothing
[21:33] <srg> On 12.04, how do I start apache2? systemctl isn't present
[21:33] <iSky87> i can't hear anything
[21:33] <lethu> iSky87, have you checked if your sound is muted?
[21:33] <iSky87> yes
[21:33] <iSky87> many times
[21:34] <k1l_> srg: 12.04 uses upstart. so do "sudo service apache2 start"
[21:34] <lethu> iSky87, also check if the right device is selected as primary under system settings -> Multimedia -> output devices
[21:34] <iSky87> The audio mixer says everythings fine
[21:34] <srg> Thanks k1l_
[21:35] <k1l_> srg: and be aware, that 12.04 loses support in april. so better make a plan to upgrade
[21:35] <srg> k1l_: tell acquia that ;-)
[21:35] <lethu> iSky87, also check under configuration
[21:35] <srg> (their infrastruture is running 12.04, i'm just copying it
[21:35] <srg> )
[21:35] <srg> Thanks!
[21:36] <iSky87> hold up, can we go through step by step?
[21:36] <iSky87> im new with ubuntu
[21:36] <lethu> WeiJunLi, please wait till somebody else helps you with your issue, I am not that knowledgeable about Vmware
[21:36] <WeiJunLi> lethu: not sure if this is a vmware issue though
[21:37] <WeiJunLi> seems to be everything right with the vmware setup
[21:37] <WeiJunLi> it's more of ubuntu donot recognize the usb
[21:37] <lethu> WeiJunLi, have you checked if the usb device has the right fs?
[21:37] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: look at dmesg after you put in the usb
[21:38] <WeiJunLi> lethu: not sure how to check that
[21:38] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: I do dmesg|grep 'Controller'
[21:38] <WeiJunLi> and dont have any output
[21:39] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: i dont know why that grep is there
[21:39] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: to get what's relevant
[21:40] <k1l_> are you sure "Controller" (case sensitive) should show up in dmesg?
[21:41] <iSky87> sorry i lost you
[21:41] <iSky87> can we please go thru step by step
[21:41] <lethu> iSky87, go to the start menu
[21:42] <lethu> iSky87, then system settings
[21:42] <iSky87> im in ubuntu studio
[21:42] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: well grep -i solve that issue
[21:42] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: anyway, no changes
[21:42] <iSky87> ok yep
[21:42] <lethu> iSky87, then multimedia
[21:42] <lethu> iSky87, then configuration
[21:43] <joltman> RFleming, i was the Guest who was having issues with NFS and boot
[21:43] <iSky87> can't find system settings
[21:43] <joltman> i do believe i was running into that bug.  Once I set the timeo, intr, and noauto, i was able to boot
[21:43] <iSky87> i changed my desktop
[21:43] <joltman> i then sudo mount -a, then restarted my services, and I'm back up and going
[21:43] <iSky87> lethu?
[21:43] <ducasse> WeiJunLi: run 'dmesg -w' and plug in the usb, watch for new messages
[21:44] <RFleming> joltman: awesome stuff
[21:44] <lethu> iSky87, type system settings while on desktop
[21:44] <lethu> it should bring up a search menu
[21:44] <RICK_SYSOP> Hello, i would like to know, if it is possible to run multiple programs within one screen session? and if it is possible to define theese within /etc/rc.local
[21:44] <joltman> RFleming, not really, the bug is over 3 yrs old and no resolution
[21:44] <iSky87> application finder?
[21:44] <lethu> yes
[21:45] <joltman> double # lets me in
[21:45] <joltman> ##pfsense
[21:45] <iSky87> ?
[21:45] <lethu> iSky87, yes
[21:45] <RICK_SYSOP> Possible to run one single screen session but multiple programs ?
[21:46] <iSky87> how do i search it in application finder
[21:46] <iSky87> what do i search in application finder
[21:46] <lethu> iSky87, just type system settings
[21:46] <WeiJunLi> ducasse: kasan logs only
[21:46] <iSky87> idek what you mean
[21:46] <ducasse> WeiJunLi: then i'd say your problem is with vmware or the host.
[21:47] <lethu> iSky87, you search for "system settings" it's a sort of "application"
[21:47] <WeiJunLi> ducasse: https://bpaste.net/show/48ea7274d735
[21:47] <iSky87> just settings?
[21:47] <WeiJunLi> ducasse: help me out
[21:47] <lethu> iSky87, yes could do
[21:47] <WeiJunLi> to identify
[21:47] <iSky87> ok, lethu, yes?
[21:48] <RFleming> joltman: yeah, that sucks... but good that you got back in
[21:48] <lethu> iSky87, yes go ahead search for it
[21:48] <ducasse> WeiJunLi: you need to get help in #vmware
[21:48] <iSky87> i did, i have settings up
[21:48] <edwin> hi, is there something wrong with launchpad? I can't file bugreport, keep getting OOPS-... errors
[21:48] <iSky87> with pesonal, hardware ect
[21:49] <edwin> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/443020 <-- I could only create a question, not a bugreport
[21:49] <iSky87> is that what you mean?
[21:49] <edwin> apparently linux 4.8.0-34-generic fails to boot (4.8.0-32-generic works), anyone who hasn't upgraded yet might want to hold off the upgrade :)
[21:49] <lethu> iSky87, yes
[21:49] <lethu> iSky87, now look for multimedia
[21:49] <iSky87> ok im in
[21:50] <iSky87> removable drives and media?
[21:50] <lethu> iSky87, nope "Multimedia"
[21:50] <lethu> exactly
[21:50] <iSky87> i can't find it
[21:51] <iSky87> im on 14.04
[21:51] <iSky87> studio
[21:51] <joltman> RFleming, thanks for your help!
[21:51] <joltman> my ZNC bouncer was on that server!!
[21:51] <joltman> :D
[21:51] <lethu> iSky87, have you removed some packages or made an, upgrade?
[21:51] <iSky87> yes
[21:51] <RFleming> joltman: hey man... no problem :)
[21:52] <lethu> iSky87, which ones?
[21:52] <lethu> iSky87, system related
[21:52] <iSky87> im not sure, my dad's like an ubuntu expert. he did them
[21:52] <lethu> iSky87, can you install "unity-control-center"
[21:53] <iSky87> how?
[21:53] <lethu> iSky87, open a terminal then type in "sudo apt install unity-control-center"
[21:53] <lethu> iSky87, it will ask you for the systems password
[21:54] <iSky87> yep, its loading
[21:54] <lethu> iSky87, good
[21:54] <iSky87> 50%
[21:54] <iSky87> 100%
[21:55] <iSky87> now another bar, 50%
[21:55] <iSky87> 60%
[21:55] <iSky87> 80%
[21:55] <iSky87> 100%
[21:55] <iSky87> done
[21:56] <iSky87> lethu, its finished
[21:57] <lethu> iSky87, now always in terminal type in unity-control-center
[21:57] <lethu> then look for multimedia
[21:57] <iSky87> ITS STILL NOT HERE
[21:58] <iSky87> THIS IS DRIVING ME CRAZY
[21:58] <lethu> iSky87, can you find anything related to audio?
[21:58] <stewie925> hi ubuntu gurus
[21:58] <iSky87> Nope
[21:59] <lethu> iSky87, then your system must be missing something
[21:59] <iSky87> wait yes
[21:59] <iSky87> LADI Control System
[22:00] <iSky87> Under audio production
[22:00] <lethu> good
[22:00] <iSky87> but that doesn't matter does it?
[22:00] <lethu> iSky87, look for a devices section
[22:01] <iSky87> when i open it it says no studio present ' JACK can only be configured with a loaded and stopped studio. Please create a new studio or load and stop an existing one.'
[22:01] <lethu> iSky87, you have me lost here, I don't have proper experience wiht ubuntu studio
[22:02] <k1l_> jack audioserver is another special audio server used for music production.
[22:02] <iSky87> :(
[22:02] <k1l_> maybe the guys in #ubuntustudio have more experience with that
[22:02] <lethu> iSky87, but first run in terminal "sudo apt remove unity-control-center && sudo apt autoremove"
[22:02] <iSky87> ok
[22:03] <stewie925> hi guys, I am looking to installing a server and I have this install guide that says "install X server using xxxx.qcow2"
[22:04] <k1l_> stewie925: that doesnt sound like a server how to. what do you do there at all?
[22:05] <lethu> iSky87, good luck with your problem
[22:06] <ovaltradej> Can I get linux on my 2007 mac?  It says 'intel' somewhere
[22:07] <k1l_> ovaltradej: look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages  some hardware might need some special treatment
[22:08] <ovaltradej> thanks
[22:15] <Colombo1> Hey
[22:16] <Colombo1> I am still having the color problem, but now I know more
[22:16] <Colombo1> it seems to be a way how Ubuntu displays PNG
[22:16] <Colombo1> and it sets "transparent" color (or background color overall or something) to azure
[22:16] <Colombo1> blue-green, whatever...
[22:17] <Colombo1> and JPG
[22:17] <Colombo1> so, probably some error in viewer?
[22:18] <Colombo1> when I open it in anything but the default image browser, it works correctly
[22:22] <Climhazzard> Hi, is it OK to install packages with aptitude as opposed to apt-get
[22:22] <k1l_> Climhazzard: should be ok. i heard aptitude fixed the bugs with multiarch etc.
[22:24] <zuiss1> why does ubuntu's installer have an option to encrypt the home directory after you have already chosen to encrypted lvm previously to encrypt everything?
[22:24] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: my usb drive is definitely an ubuntu issue
[22:24] <WeiJunLi> i find my usb drive through lsusb -> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1221:3234  Unknown manufacturer Disk (Thumb drive)
[22:24] <zuiss1> it's confusing. are you supposed to check that?
[22:24] <Climhazzard> ah, thank you k1l_
[22:24] <WeiJunLi> but doesnt appear on 'gparted'
[22:25] <tekeli-li> I stopped X with `sudo systemctl stop lightdm`. Now I'm left with a completely black screen with a single white underscore in the upper left corner. There is no shell prompt. There is no login prompt. What is the component of the system I'm looking at, and where do I look for its documentation?
[22:25] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: didnt you say you put that usb through to vmware?
[22:25] <loganrun> does anyone know if it is possible to trick rkhunter to scan a filesystem that isn't actually mounted as the live root filesystem
[22:25] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: yes
[22:26] <WeiJunLi> but vmware recognizes it
[22:26] <WeiJunLi> and also it appears on lsusb
[22:26] <wedgie> tekeli-li: can probably get to a shell from one of the other tty's. Press ctrl+alt+F2
[22:26] <iSky87> lethu, GUESS WHAT!!!
[22:26] <wedgie> (I don't know the answer to your specific question)
[22:26] <tekeli-li> wedgie, I don't want a shell. I want to know the name of the system component I'm looking at and where I can find its documentation.
[22:26] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: thats not how it works. if you put it through to vmware it doesnt work on the host.
[22:27] <tekeli-li> wedgie, ty for trying.
[22:27] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: I want to access it on the vmware not in the host
[22:28] <iSky87> Lethu
[22:30] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: so look at the vmware docu how to pass that usb through to vmware
[22:35] <joltman> whelp, i was wrong
[22:35] <joltman> shit's not working
[22:35] <joltman> sudo mount -a is not mounting anything...i added noauto,intr,timeo=14
[22:38] <WeiJunLi> there's another terminal pastebin besides pastebinit ?
[22:39] <Colombo1> Huhuuu, I have same problem like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/5l9mfm/ubuntu_16041610_amd_radeon_driver_wrong_colors/ still, I have no idea what does it means.
[22:41] <rampicus> can anyone help with installing a game from .zip? (assault reloaded)
[22:41] <pos> WeiJunLi, termbin seems popular
[22:42] <wedgie> WeiJunLi: there is also sprunge: <command> | curl -F 'sprunge=<-'
[22:42] <wedgie> err, <command> | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[22:42] <Jakethepython> HEllo room i started up ubuntu 16 and it says Begin:running.scripts/local-block... done
[22:42] <Jakethepython> what does this mean?
[22:43] <WeiJunLi> thnks
[22:44] <moss> anyone here have a yubikey set up with ubuntu? i can't seem to get mine working with ssh
[22:44] <moss> cat: /run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent.ssh: No such device or address
[22:50] <arog> can i ask shell questions in ehre
[22:50] <arog> as in writing my own .sh files
[22:51] <k1l_> arog: maybe #bash is better in answering shell scripting questions
[22:53] <Jakethepython> has anyone had problems w/ booting into ubuntu 16
[22:54] <Jakethepython> running. scripts/local-block... done is just repeating
[22:54] <Jakethepython> it does this after ading a RAID config
[22:55] <k1l_> Jakethepython: yes, some had isssues. but they said what specific issue they had and that could be resolved.
[22:55] <k1l_> Jakethepython: so specific questions with details lets people help you
[22:55] <MarcoP> is there a good room for gufw firewall in ubuntu?
[22:56] <MarcoP> I guess not that room is empty
[22:56] <MarcoP> lol
[22:56] <Jakethepython> I guess i don't know how to even boot up if it has this error
[22:56] <MarcoP> why does gufw keep turning off?
[22:56] <Jakethepython> So i can't get details because i know nothing about it
[22:57] <k1l_> Jakethepython: what did you do exactly before the booting doesnt work anymore?
[22:58] <Jakethepython> Upgaded from V14 to 16
[22:58] <Jakethepython> If i disable the RAID and boot from just the system disk i can boot up into V16
[22:59] <moss> :|
[23:00] <k1l_> Jakethepython: what raid is it?
[23:00] <Jakethepython> RAID 1 on 2 drivers
[23:00] <Jakethepython> and then the system disk a stand alone
[23:00] <wedgie> mdadm or what?
[23:01] <k1l_> Jakethepython: what raid exactly? there are several different methods to setup raids
[23:01] <k1l_> so far it sounds like "i got a tire on my car". but the specifics matter
[23:02] <Jakethepython> It's the RAID Embeded server raid by Intel
[23:02] <Jakethepython> is where i Initialy set it up
[23:05] <k1l_> Jakethepython: so its managed by the mainboard bios?
[23:05] <Jakethepython> YEs
[23:06] <Jakethepython> shoudl i do software raid instead?
[23:07] <k1l_> do you use lvm on that raid?
[23:09] <Jakethepython> no
[23:09] <i-kill-frogs> bigpresh: this is elsewhere
[23:09] <i-kill-frogs> you told me to take the off topic chatter elsewhere
[23:09] <k1l_> i-kill-frogs: not in here.
[23:10] <i-kill-frogs> my client froze
[23:11] <i-kill-frogs> anyway once upon a time my psychiatrists asked annoying questions.  like "have you ever killed anything?"
[23:11] <i-kill-frogs> well, that annoyed me.  So I grabbed his pet frog off his desk and removed its head with a scissors
[23:11] <k1l_> i-kill-frogs: last warning to not misuse this channel
[23:12] <i-kill-frogs> but Allah told me to kill frogs, k1l_
[23:15] <nemecy> hi ubuntu users
[23:16] <nemecy> hello from fedora users
[23:16] <Jakethepython> for RAID should i have the drivers formated to EXT4 or something?
[23:17] <elky> nemecy: hi. is thehre something we can help with?
[23:17] <nemecy> im fine thanks a lot elky
[23:17] <elky> nemecy: ok well this is tech support channel, #ubuntu-offtopic is for other chatter
[23:17] <k1l_> Jakethepython: most guys will do a software raid. since the hardware needs some drivers in most cases and there are not all drivers for linux.
[23:18] <nemecy> thanks
[23:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[23:30] <moss> ho
[23:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> moss, ho ho ho Merry Christmas
[23:34] <moss> ho ho how the fuck do you get a yubikey working in ubuntu ffs
[23:34] <moss> i got this thing working in gentoo in 5 minutes
[23:34] <moss> but for some reason this noobass OS is non-functional
[23:35] <moss> :)
[23:35] <HalliHallo> Hello
[23:36] <Jakethepython> what is the best Software Raid for Ubuntu for a RAID 1 ?
[23:37] <royal_screwup21> I was trying to find all instances of the word "xyz" in the man page for "file" (i.e. man file). So I typed in "$ grep xyz man file". What am I doing wrong?
[23:37] <moss> royal_screwup21: type: man file
[23:37] <moss> royal_screwup21: then type /
[23:38] <moss> then hit enter
[23:38] <moss> err
[23:38] <ChaiTRex> royal_screwup21: man file | fgrep xyz
[23:38] <moss> type /xyz
[23:39] <royal_screwup21> Awesome, thanks moss, ChaiTRex!
[23:39] <ChaiTRex> royal_screwup21: There isn't an instance of xyz in it, so perhaps try `man file | fgrep file` to see what finding the text looks like.
[23:39] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: "best" can vary a lot, since it's subjective.
[23:40] <tomreyn> you probably want to use md(adm), though, since it's the most widely used implementation.
[23:41] <royal_screwup21> ChaiTRex: I'm just curious though: why doesn't "$ grep xyz man file" work? Isn't "man file" basically a file in itself?
[23:42] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: no it's not, unless you have it on your file system.
[23:43] <k1l_> royal_screwup21: "man something" is a command. not a file
[23:43] <tomreyn> "man file", when you have it at the front of your command line, runs the "man" command and passes the "file" argument to it, so man runs, notices that you want info about "file" and gets and displays it
[23:44] <ChaiTRex> royal_screwup21: No, man is a program, and you want to deal with its output, so that's done usually with pipes (|). You can turn the output into a fake file like so: <(man file) and use it like fgrep xyz <(man file).
[23:45] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: so when you run "grep xyz man file", what happens is that the "grep" command runs and notices that you passed three arguments to it, "xyz", "man" and "file". it then tries to interpret these arguments and probably fails since the "grep" command not meant to be used this way.
[23:46] <royal_screwup21> Cool, thanks guys!
[23:48] <tomreyn> "man" is not the best example here, since this command spawns another command to interpret its output, which makes piping and so on cumbersume. better test stuff with thinks like "echo", "cat" and "fgrep" only
[23:51] <moss> woot i got it working
[23:51] <moss> thank the lord.
[23:51] <Colombo1> hey, padoka ppa is said to be compiled with llvm 4.0, however, I don't seem to have installed llvm 4.0, but only 3.9
[23:52] <Colombo1> shouldn't I install 4.0?
[23:52] <hydrajump> is there a quicker shortcut way to doing this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel#Modifying_the_configuration
[23:52] <hydrajump> instead of going through each architecture config when I just need to make a small change