[08:59] <liable> rapptop: you can start with the one in /boot/config-blah and copy it into source, naming it .config, but beware, you need to buils drivers in if you dont use initrd
[09:00] <niels_> Hello, can one help me? i cannot load a module.. but the file is there
[09:00] <Frogzoo> niels_: what do u get from: insmod module.ko
[09:01] <niels_> localhost kernel:  dvb-ttpci: could not load firmware, file not found: dvb-ttpci-01.fw
[09:01] <niels_> localhost kernel:  dvb-ttpci: usually this should be in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware
[09:01] <niels_> root@unbun:/usr/lib/hotplug/firmware# ls -l
[09:01] <niels_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-10-16 20:41 dvb-ttpci-01.fw
[09:01] <liable> you shouldnt use insmod on 2.6 btw
[09:01] <Frogzoo> liable: always works for me, plus if it's not supported, why's it available?
[09:02] <Frogzoo> liable: quote: BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY This  version of insmod is for kernels 2.5.48 and above.  If it detects a kernel with support for old-style modules (for which much of the work was  done  in userspace), it will attempt to run insmod.modutils in its place, so it is completely transparent to the user.
[09:02] <liable> Frogzoo: it doesnt load module dependancies, and its supplied cause its part of module-init-tolls, which works for 2.4
[09:02] <ompaul> Frogzoo, aka it should happen outomagically
[09:03] <ompaul> s/outomagically/automatically
[09:03] <Frogzoo> ompaul: depending on what you're trying to do ;)
[09:03] <Frogzoo> niels_: it's looking for firmware - I suggest  you check the install docs
[09:04] <liable> Frogzoo: right, my apaologies, i have never seen that text.
[09:04] <newbuntu> i still have no sound , but i now know that I have an ISA soundcard and need to get the modulles loaded somehow
[09:04] <xanavim> what is the best tool to remap a key on my keyboard to be a different key?
[09:05] <newbuntu> is it possible to find the ISA modules for a particular motherboard soundcard?
[09:05] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: you need to add an entry to /etc/modules & pass the io & irq as module parameters - suggest a quick google should sort it out
[09:05] <newbuntu> okay i'll try that thanks
[09:05] <Madpilot> xanavim, probably System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[09:06] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: if it's a motherboard sound card, it's not isa - it should show up with 'sudo lsmod'
[09:06] <newbuntu> seems ubuntu doesnt like ISA sound
[09:06] <newbuntu> okay
[09:06] <revolutionary> Frogzoo, you dont need to do sudo for the lsmod command
[09:06] <Madpilot> newbuntu, an actual ISA soundcard? That's pretty old tech
[09:06] <revolutionary> lspci
[09:06] <revolutionary> hwinfo
[09:07] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: soz, 'sudo lspci'
[09:07] <newbuntu> i think frog is correct
[09:07] <xanavim> Madpilot: how do I launch that from terminal?  I'm in fluxbox without the gnome menu
[09:08] <Madpilot> xanavim, hmm, not sure, let me see if I can find out
[09:08] <Frogzoo> revolutionary: you're quite correct, but I meant 'sudo lspci'
[09:08] <newbuntu> which part of lspci is your soundcard?
[09:08] <void^> none, if it's isa
[09:08] <xanavim> Madpilot: do you think it's called gnome-keyboard-properties?
[09:08] <newbuntu> I have a newer via motherboard with onboard sound
[09:08] <Frogzoo> void^: all onboard sound card's are pci afaik
[09:09] <void^> ah, who confused me with the isa talk? :P
[09:09] <Madpilot> xanavim, that's worth a shot, I think
[09:09] <newbuntu> so is it easier to load modules for a pci onboard soundcard?
[09:09] <revolutionary> Frogzoo, ok I thoght so... ;p
[09:09] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: usually the kernel takes care of it completely
[09:11] <newbuntu> is it possible that another process is using the sound from a previous session?
[09:12] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: you might see something like (if it's and AC97): Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[09:12] <rixth> Is video4linux not included in the default kernel?
[09:12] <newbuntu> using the lspci commasnd?
[09:12] <rixth> I find it hard to believe.
[09:13] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: yup
[09:13] <newbuntu> 000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technol
[09:13] <newbuntu> ogies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
[09:13] <newbuntu> (rev 50)
[09:13] <newbuntu> sorry for pasting
[09:13] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: we have a winner
[09:14] <newbuntu> now why wont that sucker load on boot
[09:14] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: you may just need to change: sys -> prefs -> multimedia selector -> output (try either OSS or alsa), input = alsa
[09:14] <newbuntu> i'll try that thx
[09:16] <newbuntu> i cant find sys> pref >multimedia ..   am I missing something?
[09:17] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: from the toolbar
[09:17] <m_0_r_0_n> Any idea what the difference is between the command "source .bashrc" and ". bashrc". Both commands should reinitialize the srcript.
[09:17] <newbuntu> im in kbuntu is there a difference in that regard?
[09:17] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: system -> preferences -> multimedia selector
[09:17] <m_0_r_0_n> ". .bashrc"
[09:18] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: yes, but I don't use kde, so I don't know
[09:18] <newbuntu> i see
[09:18] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: someone will fix you up, I'm on my way out, so good luck
[09:18] <newbuntu> im in kde
[09:18] <newbuntu> thanks a lot
[09:18] <Frogzoo> yw
[09:19] <newbuntu> can anyone help me with an alsa sound problem ?
[09:19] <m_0_r_0_n> What problem?
[09:20] <newbuntu> I have  no sound, using kbuntu 5.10 , with alsa installed
[09:20] <void^> see if `cat /proc/asound/cards` has your soundcard. if it does it's probably just arts hogging it.
[09:20] <bliss1_> DBO: hi, which blend today?
[09:21] <newbuntu> my lspci says  0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
[09:21] <bliss1_> void^: hi hows it going
[09:21] <newbuntu> arts seems to run a lot in ksystemguard whether or not i turn anything on
[09:22] <newbuntu> it says :  VIA8233 - VIA 8235
[09:22] <newbuntu>                      VIA 8235 with unknown codec at 0xe000, irq 22
[09:22] <newbuntu> sorry again for the paste
[09:22] <pkh> I'm trying to run amarok in ubuntu -- it works perfectly except for the fact that it can't find my ipod shuffe when it's inserted...  I assume this is a problem with not running kde underneath it.  Anyone know what I need to do/load for it to work?
[09:23] <etienner> newbuntu, I'm not an expert, but to select alsa or OSS with kde you have to go to System preferences (or something like this) and than Sound and Multimedia -> Hardware -> Sound System -> Hardware -> Select the audio device
[09:23] <newbuntu> void is that normal?
[09:23] <newbuntu> im in kde and there is only ksystemsettings
[09:24] <etienner> If you have kde you should have kcontrol
[09:25] <newbuntu> i see the equivilent of what you are talking about, im on autodetect, should I change it to alsa?
[09:25] <void^> newbuntu: so the kernel sees your card.. those older via onboard chips have no hardware mixing so if arts if running and active your applications will have to use arts for sound output, or disable arts and use alsa directly (one at a time only)
[09:25] <SlicerDicer> you can install ubuntu on fat16 right?
[09:25] <void^> SlicerDicer: er. not easily. perhaps with umsdos. but that's so 90s.
[09:26] <SlicerDicer> bah
[09:26] <etienner> I don't know, but I wanted to tell you where you find this settings on kde...
[09:26] <SlicerDicer> void^: well it was a idea haha
[09:26] <SlicerDicer> void^: not a good one but a idea none the less
[09:26] <highvoltage> how do i enable cups web administration in ubuntu?
[09:27] <newbuntu> should I set the preference to alsa instead od autodetect>?
[09:27] <bliss1_> void^: thanks for your help on my partition prb a week ok worked ok, but now trying to resize the partition is not happening
[09:27] <SlicerDicer> umm point your browser to cups? such as localhost:657 or whatever your port is highvoltage
[09:28] <highvoltage> SlicerDicer: i can do that, but it doesn't allow me to log in to change settings
[09:28] <rappo> I'm trying to setup xgl and I followed all the steps, but it says failed to load module "nvidia" ... for some reason I dont have it.. what would I do to apt-get?
[09:28] <highvoltage> SlicerDicer: i remember having to change a setting in my cupsd.conf file before to enable that in ubuntu, but forgot where that is
[09:28] <dominic_> hi liable are you still their?
[09:28] <dominic_> hi liable are you still their?
[09:28] <dominic_> can you check my pastebin
[09:28] <dominic_> about webcam peoblem
[09:28] <dominic_> webcam problem
[09:28] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: then your computer is mad at you ;-) I really dont have enough experience with ubuntu yet I am a gentoo user who just switched
[09:29] <newbuntu> hey void thanks a lot, one final question , how do i disable arts ?
[09:29] <qmf> im having trouble mounting a network folder. = mount: special device //server/Music does not exist < but it does exist.
[09:29] <dominic_> liable hello
[09:29] <dominic_> hellow people
[09:29] <dominic_> anybody can view my pastebin
[09:29] <newbuntu> can i just unistall it or do i disable it elsewhere?
[09:29] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: I dont know about logging in and all that yet via cups I did it with gentoo but also consdier that your permissions for logging in may not be set
[09:29] <dominic_> regarding
[09:29] <Madpilot> !tell dominic_ about enter
[09:29] <dominic_> web dmesg
[09:29] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: check that out actually on the permissions
[09:29] <qmf> woah, newbuntu - your name is the name of my blog :P
[09:29] <dominic_> hellow
[09:29] <highvoltage> SlicerDicer: it's not permissions
[09:30] <newbuntu> great minds think alike
[09:30] <dominic_> anybody can help me to read my pastebin
[09:30] <highvoltage> small minds never differ :)
[09:30] <Madpilot> dominic_, if you want someone to read your pastebin, you have to actually post the URL it's at
[09:30] <dominic_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11662
[09:30] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: there is actual settings that are for cups like /etc/cups or somesuch let me check that control logins
[09:30] <dominic_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11662
[09:30] <dominic_> i downloaded the pwc
[09:30] <dominic_> driver
[09:30] <dominic_> for my cam
[09:31] <newbuntu> why would arts keep running in the background everytime I boot?
[09:31] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf look at that
[09:31] <Madpilot> dominic_, please stop hitting ENTER so much!
[09:31] <dominic_> /dev/video
[09:31] <SlicerDicer> and the other files contained in there
[09:31] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: this is not my main machine I would check my settings for ya and doublecheck but I am doing a install of ubuntu on a drive with that systme hehe
[09:31] <newbuntu> ksystemguard just showed artsd running 3 times
[09:31] <highvoltage> SlicerDicer: yes, i have that, i don't know what to change inside cupsd.conf :/
[09:32] <bliss1_> Madpilot: hi can you you read the output from a dmesg and tell me what it means please
[09:32] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: going to be around for the next half hour?
[09:32] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: if you are I will be done and able to help
[09:32] <highvoltage> SlicerDicer: yep
[09:32] <dominic_> could not connect /dev/video
[09:32] <liable> dominic_: whats the url?
[09:32] <SlicerDicer> alright I just got to complete this install hehe
[09:32] <Madpilot> bliss1_, maybe, but I'm hardly a hardware expert - pastebin it and post the URL here
[09:32] <dominic_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11662
[09:33] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: I am setting up a mythtv box for my kitchen so I can use mythrecipe and access different cooking recipes :) kinda important *grin*
[09:33] <newbuntu> if artsd keeps running in the background, can I just unistall artsd and use alsa , so I can get sound back?
[09:33] <Madpilot> bliss1_, and explain what people are supposed to be looking at or for in you dmesg post, of course
[09:33] <liable> dominic_: thats better
[09:33] <bliss1_> Madpilot: trouble with RAM
[09:33] <dominic_> ls /dev/video
[09:33] <dominic_> no such file or directory
[09:34] <bliss1_> Madpilot: i will post it
[09:34] <liable> dominic_: sudo MAKDEV video
[09:34] <dominic_> sudo makedev video
[09:34] <dominic_> thats it
[09:34] <dominic_> ok wait
[09:34] <liable> dominic_: MAKEDEV, not makedev
[09:34] <dominic_> ok capital letter
[09:35] <rappo> when i try to apt-get install  nvidia-glx it tells me that he package is missing :(
[09:35] <dominic_> then yes
[09:35] <dominic_> finish
[09:35] <dominic_> wats next
[09:35] <dominic_> ls /dev/video
[09:35] <liable> dominic_: now replug it
[09:35] <dominic_> the usb cam
[09:35] <liable> yes
[09:35] <dominic_> ok
[09:36] <void^> newbuntu: you can just disable arts in kcontrol.
[09:36] <Madpilot> dominic_, last warning - do NOT spam the channel with one word per line like you've been doing.
[09:37] <Madpilot> !enter
[09:37] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[09:37] <Chousuke> hmm.
[09:37] <ic56> dominic_: please stop flooding the channel.  Please type your sentence in *one* line.
[09:37] <bliss1_> Madpilot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11552
[09:37] <dominic_> liable i finish replug my usb camera
[09:37] <Chousuke> Doesn't X.org 7 already include OSS 3d accelerated drivers for the Radeon 9600?
[09:37] <Chousuke> does it work out-of-the-box on Ubuntu?
[09:38] <Madpilot> Chousuke, try #ubuntu+1 (if there's anyone there, of course...)
[09:38] <liable> dominic_: ok, now try whatever tools you were trying to connect to it.
[09:38] <dominic_>  USB disconnect, address 3
[09:38] <newbuntu> how can I save a session's settings when I logout?
[09:38] <dominic_>  new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[09:38] <Madpilot> newbuntu, in Gnome, or in which app?
[09:38] <newbuntu> kde
[09:39] <liable> dominic_: does /dev/video0 exist now
[09:39] <ompaul> newbuntu, System Preferences Sessions from the menu and look in there
[09:39] <dominic_> nothing
[09:39] <dominic_> camorama
[09:39] <Madpilot> newbuntu, I think KDE saves session by default (but I don't run Kubuntu, so I could well be wrong)
[09:40] <newbuntu> kbuntu with kde doesnt have a system preferences sessions
[09:40] <goodshit> Anyone know foundry big iron. I can't remove this line from my config file. Any reason why I can't remove that. When I do a sh config i see this line access-list 111 deny ip <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> any so to get rid of it i did a (config)#no access-list 111 deny ip <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> any
[09:40] <goodshit> Error: No such entry...
[09:40] <Madpilot> bliss1_, have you run memtest on your system yet?
[09:41] <Madpilot> goodshit, want to find a friendlier nick, please?
[09:41] <bliss1_> bliss1: not recently but when I did there was not a error
[09:41] <PwcrLinux> !language
[09:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[09:42] <PwcrLinux> goodshit, change your nick
[09:42] <Madpilot> bliss1_, reboot your system, when the GRUB menu comes up hit Escape, the choose memtest86+ and let it run for a while
[09:42] <dominic_> liable still the same could not connect to video device /dev/video i use camorama the view my cam
[09:42] <ic56> goodshit: try "no access-list 111" without the rest of the line.
[09:43] <rappo> is there nvidia-glx for ppc? :/
[09:43] <liable> dominic_: paste  the latest dmesg output to paster
[09:43] <bliss1_> Mudpilot: yes it takes but why?
[09:43] <dominic_> ok
[09:44] <bliss1_> Madpilot: why run memtest what are we looking for
[09:44] <xanavim> Madpilot: hmmm... disabled the capslock with xmodmap... unfortunately, if I put any other key there it performs the action of that key *and* the normal capslock, so I had to just leave it as useless for now
[09:44] <Madpilot> bliss1_, memtest will run tests on your RAM & find faults
[09:45] <dominic_> liable > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11663
[09:45] <PwcrLinux> Bliss1: pop in a live CD and run a memtest86, leave on overnight till you find a errors..
[09:46] <bliss1_> Madpilot: what I am doing is allocating memoer to qemu virtual before I install a guest os
[09:46] <Madpilot> bliss1_, is the machine freezing, or crashing randomly, or is it just applications that are messing up?
[09:47] <bliss1_> Madpilot: did you read the dmesg
[09:48] <newbuntu> howdy folks
[09:48] <dominic_> liable did you see it >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11663
[09:48] <liable> dominic_: dunno, when you replug it, it seems not to register properly.
[09:48] <Madpilot> bliss1_, I assumed the dmesg stuff was actual RAM errors, not something to do with qemu - I know zip about qemu - sorry
[09:49] <ic56> xanavim: as far as xmodmap is concerned, capslock is a modifier key. Try xmodmap clear Lock.
[09:49] <newbuntu> is it normal to have artsd running in  the background all the time? I tried to unistall all the arts applications I have and artsd keeps showing up and hogging the sound
[09:49] <pilgrim> Anyone know why the changed for my preferred browser don't work? I'm using the "Preferred Applications" window.
[09:50] <pilgrim> changes*
[09:50] <dominic_> i do the instruction on how to install pwc ;
[09:51] <pilgrim> dominic_, was that directed at me?
[09:51] <liable> pilgrim: you could try 'update-alternatives --config x-www-browser' might work.
[09:51] <bliss1_> Madpilot: yes your correct I have 768of RAM and allocated 512 to qemu whicih is 2/3rd's but when it got to 61% of install it killed it out of memory
[09:51] <liable> pilgrim: with sudo..
[09:52] <pilgrim> liable, hmm, ok.
[09:52] <pilgrim> liable, and how the heck do you know about this thing?
[09:52] <ChrisLSD> whats the best package to get to allow me to read NTFS drives... I dont really care about writing
[09:52] <liable> pilgrim: might work, might not.
[09:53] <bluey> is it possible to change the ubuntu bootsplash resolution using the kernel line in grub? currently it doesn't use my monitors native resolution.
[09:53] <alee> hi i have about 100 client users and want to setup and internal email server what is the best email package available in ubuntu 5.04 ?
[09:54] <pilgrim> liable, not working ;(
[09:54] <liable> pilgrim: bugger
[09:55] <PwcrLinux> wb thor
[09:56] <pilgrim> liable, when I enter a number at the prompt. the '*' changes postion but not the '+'. Is this supposed to happen?
[09:56] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: how's it going?
[09:56] <sfar> i just installed apache.. sooooo where is it? :)
[09:56] <sfar> or i.e. HOW can i find it?
[09:57] <PwcrLinux> thor: are you on xchat 2.6.0?
[09:57] <sfar> -i.e
[09:57] <phrizer> sfar, find it?
[09:57] <thoreauputic> PwcrLinux: no
[09:57] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: how's it going?
[09:57] <m_0_r_0_n> Do you know the meaning of the fileattribute s?
[09:57] <sfar> phrizer: yeah, the folder where to put my files and edit the config file
[09:57] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: not bad :)
[09:57] <phrizer> sfar, it should be running.
[09:57] <sfar> it is running
[09:57] <PwcrLinux> Thor: Okay I thought you having problem on xchat :)
[09:57] <Madpilot> sfar, in your browser, type "http://localhost/"
[09:57] <liable> pilgrim: i cant remember to tell the truth, and i only have one browser installed atm, so i cant check
[09:58] <thoreauputic> PwcrLinux: oh no - my problems are far deeper than that ;)
[09:58] <sfar> Madpilot: i know.. but.. i want to have my own page there and i cant find the folder where to put the files :)
[09:58] <pilgrim> I see. I think I might sacrifice ephiphany for a while.
[09:58] <alee> what is the best pop mail server in ubuntu
[09:59] <Madpilot> sfar, /var/www - at least by default, you can change it
[09:59] <phrizer> sfar, look in /etc/apache for configuration.
[09:59] <PwcrLinux> Thor: I dislike the xchat 2.6.0 there is no x beside the topic bar.. and I had to use channelbar menus to close a tab..
[10:00] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: if I have 768mb and allocate say 512 to another aopplication why shold that applcation stop at 61% stage and be out of memory see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11552
[10:00] <sfar> thanks Madpilot and phrizer
[10:01] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: I don't know
[10:02] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: is this mac-on-linux or some other thing like vmware?
[10:02] <PwcrLinux> bliss: go to terminal box and type a command "free" (without a qoutes) to see how much the ram available?
[10:02] <bliss1_> thoreauputic:  yes linux  install a linux guest on qemu
[10:03] <pilgrim> liable, thanks for your help.
[10:04] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: it' sbeen a whle since I played with qemu - but I assume you have misconfigured it somehow
[10:05] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: it does not confiuring
[10:06] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: it does need configuring just install from sysnaptic manager
[10:06] <php-coder> hi all
[10:06] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: I meant you have made some error in the way you are running it ( wrong flags or something like that)
[10:07] <php-coder> i have some errors from autoconfigure -fisv:
[10:07] <php-coder> aclocal: configure.in: 0: macro `AM_PATH_GTK' not found in library
[10:07] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: and of course it is configurable - it must have a config file
[10:07] <php-coder> aclocal: configure.in: 19: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
[10:07] <php-coder> tell me please what package i should install ?
[10:07] <php-coder> :-) thnx
[10:08] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: is that what the dsmeg suggests
[10:08] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: the honest answer is that I don't understand the dmesg output
[10:09] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: why are you directing this question at me? Ask the channel as a whole
[10:09] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: ok sorry keep cool man
[10:10] <alee> did anyone use xmail before ?
[10:10] <kameron> sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-30-386 tells me it's already the newest version, but uname -r shows that i'm running the -15-... upgrading kernels with dist-upgrade also doesn't work. anyone else have this problem? i'm running kubuntu dapper.
[10:10] <thoreauputic> no need to apoogise - just don't assume I know everything ;-)
[10:10] <alee> please need to know if it works fine ?
[10:11] <sfar> Madpilot: is there anything critical i should do to enhance the security on my box as i now have a server running?
[10:11] <Madpilot> sfar, you might want to have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BastilleLinux
[10:13] <Nolt> hello
[10:13] <RemyLaptop> hi guys, anyone know how to connect an ipaq to ubuntu ?
[10:13] <Nolt> hey i have big problem with this shitty gptf when i want delete folder from ftp program exit by it selfs ....
[10:13] <RemyLaptop> I just want to get files across to it...
[10:13] <RemyLaptop> !ipaq
[10:13] <PwcrLinux> !language
[10:13] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop
[10:13] <ubotu> Please watch your language.  Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop
[10:16] <RemyLaptop> !pocketpc
[10:16] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop
[10:17] <ic56> Nolt: which ftp client are you using?
[10:18] <void^> !palm
[10:18] <ubotu> methinks palm is http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[10:18] <PwcrLinux> nolt left
[10:18] <bobbyd_> hi
[10:18] <dominic_> liable are you still their
[10:19] <bobbyd_> if I move a hard drive from one machine to another (compatible CPUs). How do I get Kubuntu to redetect all the hardware?
[10:19] <bobbyd_> basically the old machine died and I want to migrate the system to a new machine
[10:19] <dominic_> i remove my pwc driver for my webcam and re-install another pwc compatible driver for my kernel
[10:20] <twb> Can I prevail upon someone running unadulterated Dapper to do
[10:20] <twb> dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/default | awk -F ':' '{print $2}' | sort | uniq
[10:20] <twb> and tell me the output?
[10:23] <ic56> twb: dpkg: /usr/share/icons/default not found.
[10:23] <twb> Shite.
[10:24] <ic56> twb: /usr/share/icons/ exists but there's no `default' under it.
[10:24] <dominic_> /dev/video problem i fnish installing my pwc driver
[10:24] <twb> I wonder why ubuntu-artwork=12 expects something there.
[10:25] <twb> Setting up ubuntu-artwork (12) ...
[10:25] <twb> No theme index file in '/usr/share/icons/default'.
[10:25] <twb> If you really want to create an icon cache here, use --ignore-theme-index.
[10:25] <Killgore> hey fellas
[10:25] <Killgore> and ladies
[10:25] <dominic_> /dev/video problem i fnish installing my pwc driver
[10:25] <bobbyd_> anyone?
[10:26] <twb> dominic_: price waterhouse cooper?
[10:26] <newbuntu> is there a way to disable the arts sound server in kde? it keeps hogging my sound and i get no sound on bootup
[10:26] <twb> newbuntu: killall -9 artsd
[10:26] <Killgore> ive just wiped my ubuntu partition and gone through the windows installation but when it comes to boot from the hard drive it just sits there. I had grub installed but shouldnt windows overwrite it?
[10:26] <dominic_> what twb
[10:26] <twb> dominic_: nuffin'.
[10:27] <newbuntu> twb is there a way to make that every time I boot?
[10:27] <twb> I would put "killall -9 artsd" in my ~/.xinitrc file, but you probably use a graphical login.
[10:28] <newbuntu> everytime I start and dont have sound i look in the process table and artsd is running
[10:28] <Killgore> so how would i get rid of grub in place of the windows bootloader; without wiping the MBR
[10:28] <ic56> Killgore: maybe Windows had trouble with the partition id being non-windows?  Try booting from a linux liveCD or floppy and using fdisk to set it to something windowsy.
[10:29] <Killgore> ic56: i wiped all the linux paritions and formatted a new NTFS one so there are none, i would think
[10:30] <winterth> 123
[10:30] <twb> 456
[10:30] <winterth> 789
[10:30] <twb> We're gonna rock around the clock tonight!
[10:31] <Killgore> lol
[10:31] <newbuntu> adept locked up on me and I killed it now several programs like kcontrol , systemsettings etc disappeared
[10:31] <Killgore> is there a better channel than #grub for grub related stuff
[10:31] <dominic_> my creative webcam is not detected with my camorama
[10:32] <dominic_> i installed pwc
[10:34] <winterth> 123
[10:39] <PwcrLinux> How to convert the png to jpg filename?
[10:39] <spiritz> u
[10:40] <Killgore> so anybody know how to install windows bootloader after installing grub?
[10:40] <noiesmo> PwcrLinux, Gimp
[10:40] <DBO> Killgore, yes, but you will lose access to linux if you do so
[10:40] <DBO> Killgore, is that ok??
[10:40] <PwcrLinux> Noie: Gimp didn't have "Convert".
[10:40] <noiesmo> Killgore, did grub not see your windows install
[10:40] <drummer87> you can use the win bootloader with linux
[10:41] <drummer87> saw an article on it a while back
[10:41] <noiesmo> PwcrLinux, but you can save as
[10:41] <ic56> Killgore: I recall an utility for restoring a generic mbr but fdisk doesn't seem to be it.  Sorry.  Might still be worth booting in Linux to examine and verify all is ok.
[10:41] <DBO> drummer87, if you know how to put it in, yes you can
[10:41] <drummer87> never done it myself though
[10:41] <bobbyd_> Killgore: boot windows disk, recovery console, fixmbr
[10:41] <PwcrLinux> Noie: ah, let me try..
[10:41] <bobbyd_> Killgore: or fdisk /mbr
[10:42] <noiesmo> Killgore, my windows grub entry title           Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[10:42] <bobbyd_> Killgore: that will stop access to linux though...
[10:42] <noiesmo> root            (hd0,0)
[10:42] <noiesmo> savedefault
[10:42] <noiesmo> makeactive
[10:42] <noiesmo> chainloader     +1
[10:42] <DBO> Killgore, does you box already have windows on it?
[10:43] <Killgore> noiesmo: no ive gotten rid of linux completely for the moment
[10:44] <Killgore> bobbyd_: ok ill try that
[10:44] <YukiCuss> Killgore, curious, why's it off?
[10:45] <Killgore> YukiCuss: hmm good question
[10:45] <Killgore> how good is cedaga and wine for playing games? will i get an FPS hit
[10:45] <DBO> yes you will see a FPS hit IF they run at all
[10:46] <DBO> not all games run in wine or cedega
[10:46] <Killgore> lol
[10:46] <YukiCuss> Killgore, I have no idea about cedega; I've used wine to play Starcraft with nothing noticably different at all.
[10:46] <DBO> old games like starcraft of course run fine
[10:46] <YukiCuss> DBO, not necessarily, if your graphics card is set up.
[10:46] <YukiCuss> Killgore, with a little work, I've also played WC3:TFT.
[10:46] <noiesmo> Killgore, I have played battlefield 1942 on cedega and think runs better than windows but slower to load
[10:47] <DBO> I play WoW with Wine, I get a slight FPS difference (about 10%) from linux to windows
[10:47] <YukiCuss> Not bad!
[10:47] <Killgore> what about hl2? have people gotten that to run
[10:47] <DBO> YukiCuss, not bad at all!
[10:47] <noiesmo> Killgore, cedega has its place but as DBO says not all games work
[10:47] <YukiCuss> Killgore, google around and see.
[10:47] <DBO> Killgore, I believe they have
[10:47] <ic56> !fixmbr
[10:47] <ubotu> To put MS-Windows back on a disk that previously had Linux, boot from the Windows disk, go into the recovery console, and type fixmbr.  Another alternative is to type fdisk/mbr
[10:48] <Killgore> i just dont really have the hardware to take much of a hit
[10:48] <Killgore> its a struggle to run most games
[10:48] <bliss1_> DBO: what blend are you tday?
[10:48] <DBO> Killgore, nobody in here is going to lie to you, windows is the better platform if you want to game because the games are written for it
[10:48] <Killgore> ic56: yer someone mentioned that before. I didnt know ubotu knew about windows
[10:48] <DBO> bliss1_, laced with coke
[10:49] <Killgore> DBO: yer thats the truth i guess
[10:49] <DBO> Killgore, that doesnt mean dual booting isnt an option
[10:49] <bliss1_> DBO: you should start your own business in coffee as a sideline
[10:49] <concept10> OO.o doesnt take on GTK themes, any suggestions on how I can get this back?
[10:50] <ic56> DBO, Killgore: unless you want to play Doom or other games first written for Linux
[10:50] <ic56> -)
[10:50] <DBO> ic56, Dooms support has more to do with the fact that it was written for OpenGL, but they definately made it with windows in mind
[10:50] <YukiCuss> I'm off, back later..
[10:51] <DBO> its just easier to port because it doesnt depend on DX
[10:51] <Patient> try this site.http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:51] <DBO> bliss1_, I may... I may...
[10:51] <DBO> erm...
[10:51] <DBO> ubuntuguide.org is outdated
[10:51] <Patient> ic
[10:51] <bliss1_> DBO: you should just do it I am sure you will enjoy it
[10:51] <Killgore> the squarecows one is better
[10:52] <Patient> do u know any updated sites??
[10:52] <DBO> !wiki
[10:52] <Killgore> yeah there is one
[10:52] <Killgore> but i cant quite remember the url
[10:52] <Killgore> hang on a tick
[10:53] <DBO> http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:53] <andyjeffries> Can you install Ubuntu in to an existing partition/filesystem?  I'm currently a Gentoo user and have a reiserfs / partition with 200MB of data in it.  I'd like to be able to boot (maybe a gentoo livecd), move all folders to /old so / effectively only has one folder, install Ubuntu in to that filesystem, then go through moving my data in to /home etc from /old from within Ubuntu.  Possible or am I dreaming?
[10:54] <Killgore> heres one
[10:54] <Killgore> http://ubuntuguide.squarecows.com/doku.php
[10:55] <dominic_> my creative webcam is not detected with my camorama /dev/video problem
[10:55] <dominic_> my creative webcam is not detected with my camorama /dev/video problem "i download pwc driver and installed with compatible of my kernel"
[10:56] <Killgore> andyjeffries: hmm im not sure that the installer would like that
[10:56] <dominic_> my creative webcam is not detected with my camorama /dev/video problem::::   "i download pwc driver and installed with compatible of my kernel"
[10:56] <Killgore> andyjeffries: you could always back the data up, try it, then come back and tell us if it worked
[10:57] <DBO> andyjeffries, you could probably pull it off, but I dont recommend it...
[10:57] <noiesmo> andyjeffries, just dont format partitions use existing should be ok
[10:58] <DBO> noiesmo, he would have to be careful to remove almost everything else on the drive beforehand
[10:58] <noiesmo> DBO, yes but can be done in livecd envior
[10:58] <Killgore> andyjeffries: the point is that  you should back it up anyway
[10:59] <DBO> noiesmo, yes it can, just saying that I wouldnt want to do put my hand at it...
[10:59] <noiesmo> DBO, fair enough
[10:59] <PwcrLinux> noiesmo: it's work great
[11:00] <noiesmo> I' d mount the drive from live cd create a save dir then move all data to there and then delete everthing else
[11:00] <noiesmo> PwcrLinux, excellent
[11:01] <DBO> noiesmo, thats what I would do too, but i still wouldnt trust it without a backup.  Error on the side of caution and all...
[11:01] <noiesmo> DBO, I would also ofcourse back up every ting to other media or system before attempting it
[11:01] <DBO> well, we agree:-P
[11:01] <noiesmo> eeehaaaa :)
[11:01] <DBO> so there you have it andyjeffries, you can do it, but we dont suggest it without a backup
[11:01] <noiesmo> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[11:02] <DBO> and in the future, partition your disks so you are not in a situation like this =)
[11:02] <DBO> especially in linux where switching your distro is common
[11:03] <ic56> andyjeffries: I think you can do that.  The Ubuntu installer seems to notice when a partition is already formatted.  If it is, it marks as to-be-reformatted.  You have the option under manual formatting, to change that flag to do-not-format.  The flags are displayed as single characters from the high-bit set.   You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.
[11:08] <bolrod> fixmbr doesn't touch data partitions
[11:08] <noiesmo> Patient, mount -t vfat /dev/xxx /mnt/xxx
[11:08] <Patient> tnx
[11:09] <PwcrLinux> Or use Disk Mounter program
[11:10] <DBO> meh, edit fstab yourself =)
[11:10] <bolrod> or just read the binary data from /dev/.d.#
[11:10] <bolrod> something
[11:11] <Killgore> hmm
[11:11] <Killgore> interesting
[11:11] <Killgore> that had no effect at all
[11:11] <DBO> Killgore, yeah, I know, because windows already overwrote your MBR when you installed it
[11:11] <DBO> I was kinda curious why you wanted to run fixmbr, but Im not one to ask questions
[11:11] <Killgore> DBO: so ill have to go through the installation again?
[11:11] <DBO> of windows?
[11:12] <DBO> no, something else is wrong
[11:12] <Killgore> well the booting and copying part
[11:12] <bdmp> can cd/dvd creator write isos?
[11:12] <bolrod> boot a livecd
[11:12] <bolrod> and back up the partition
[11:12] <bolrod> or move the data somewhere else over network
[11:12] <bolrod> and then reinstall everything
[11:12] <DBO> Killgore, you just installed windows correct?
[11:12] <bliss1_> DBO; do you understand dmesg print-out's a small one
[11:13] <DBO> bliss1_, enough to google them
[11:13] <Killgore> well i got up to the point where it reboots the computer and tries to boot from hd
[11:13] <andyjeffries> Thanks everyone, I had to pop out for 5 (bad timing I know having just posted a question).  Thanks for all the hints, I'll back up the important stuff and risk losing the rest some time.  But I'll try the manual option and turning off formatting.
[11:13] <Killgore> good luck
[11:13] <noiesmo> Killgore, tell use excatly what you've done
[11:14] <Killgore> ok
[11:14] <Killgore> i booted the ubuntu install cd
[11:14] <abnoy> guys i have just installed enlightenment on ubuntu breezy.. how will i run it?
[11:14] <abnoy> i just use this as my reference http://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/index.php?title=Enlightenment_on_Ubuntu_5.10_(Breezy_Badger)
[11:14] <Killgore> erased partition 1(previous windows),2(previous ubuntu),3(swap) and 4 is a data partition
[11:15] <PwcrLinux> bdmp: pop in your blank CD, and waiting for disc icon appearing on desktop then you use CDRecorder if they have a ISO option..
[11:15] <DBO> abnoy, call me crazy, but I think that link is blank
[11:15] <Killgore> rebooted with windows install cd and created a ntfs partition with the empty space and windows copyied the files it neede
[11:15] <abnoy> blank?
[11:15] <ic56> who's the guy with the /dev/video problem?  You still here?
[11:15] <DBO> abnoy, yeah, click your link
[11:15] <ubuntu_> sali zm
[11:15] <Killgore> machine reboots and it tries to boot from CD then just sits there with the cursor. Then i did the fixmbr
[11:16] <abnoy> there's nothing wrong with it and its workin' fine with me
[11:16] <DBO> hmmm
[11:16] <Killgore> sim sim sala bim
[11:16] <DBO> Killgore, how many HDD's you got?
[11:16] <abnoy> anyway could you pls guide me for a neat way to do it?
[11:16] <Killgore> just one, and ive looked in the BIOS and tried HDD-0 and HDD-1 but same thing
[11:17] <Killgore> i might try the installer again
[11:17] <DBO> Killgore, do that
[11:17] <DBO> ic56, hes not here anymore
[11:18] <Gimma> sali zm
[11:18] <DBO> O_o
[11:18] <Baze> tag gimma
[11:18] <Gimma> hey baze
[11:18] <abnoy> anyone pls?
[11:19] <Gimma> was wilsch
[11:19] <Gimma> ?
[11:19] <Baze> did u search friend
[11:19] <Baze> s
[11:19] <PwcrLinux> okay gn all :)
[11:19] <DBO> gn
[11:19] <bliss1_> DBO: read this line  The "-m" switch to the qemu command controls virtual memory, 128MB is the default  if I nees more virtual memory is it neccessary to alter the default?
[11:19] <Baze> all mother ****
[11:20] <Gimma> hey hets da au schwizer din?
[11:20] <Baze> jo
[11:20] <ubuntu_> ja ich du mingo
[11:20] <ubuntu_> mongo
[11:20] <Gimma> nei ohni scheiss etz
[11:20] <Baze> he mingo
[11:20] <Gimma> dini muter
[11:20] <ubuntu_> hei gimma
[11:20] <Baze> alles sklave
[11:20] <ubuntu_> du dumme mnsch
[11:20] <Gimma> ia heil
[11:21] <DBO> no, I imagein you just need to use the switch bliss1_...
[11:21] <ompaul> !de
[11:21] <Baze> shaggy
[11:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[11:21] <Baze> du volltrottel
[11:21] <pi6502> hello all ... i have a question regarding installing ubuntu on an already "dualed" laptop
[11:21] <bliss1_> DBO; thats what I thought
[11:21] <pi6502> i have fedora installed on it using grub and I would like to substitue it with ubuntu
[11:21] <Gimma> hey ir scheis wixers schnurd doch dtsch
[11:21] <Baze> zero knowless about computers
[11:22] <Gimma> hey download frost wire
[11:22] <Gimma> ;)
[11:22] <pi6502> can i just install ubuntu over fedora? do i need to take smthg into account?
[11:22] <Dini> hei sali
[11:22] <Baze> rci du fettsack
[11:22] <bliss1_> DBO; i 768mb so I issued this command $ sudo qemu -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d -m 512 hardisk.img
[11:23] <noiesmo> pi6502, yes you can
[11:23] <thoreauputic> Dini, Baze - this is an English channel
[11:23] <Baze> suechch kiollege
[11:23] <Gimma> ok den fuck you halt
[11:23] <pi6502> @noesimo, what bootloader does ubuntu use?
[11:23] <noiesmo> pi6502, just use the right partitions when installing ubuntu and make sure you dont install over ur windows
[11:23] <DBO> bliss1_, without playing with qemu, I couldnt tell you, just do a man qemu and check
[11:23] <Baze> nigger
[11:23] <PwcrLinux-Away> !language
[11:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:23] <Bei> hei
[11:24] <Killgore> ive never had windows installed on D: drive before :P
[11:24] <Gimma> hey rici du nigga
[11:24] <bliss1_> DBO: the command is fine
[11:24] <noiesmo> pi6502, grub
[11:24] <Killgore> or lilo
[11:24] <Bei> du bisch en wisse niggea
[11:24] <Bei> nigga
[11:24] <thoreauputic> ?ban Bei
[11:24] <pi6502> @noeismo, ok, so i just need to tell ubuntu to remove all exitsing linux partition
[11:24] <noiesmo> Killgore, I havent installed a ubuntu or kubuntu yet that uses lilo sorry
[11:25] <noiesmo> pi6502, no use them
[11:25] <noiesmo> pi6502, i'd just reformat then , well install will give optuion
[11:25] <Killgore> noiesmo: no if you get to the grub install part and hit esc, you can choose between lilo and grub
[11:25] <pi6502> @noesimo, ok i meant linux installation, not partition ;)
[11:25] <noiesmo> Killgore, well there you go
[11:25] <bliss1_> DBO: I read the man last night before I used it thanks Frogzoo who advised the same
[11:26] <DBO> bliss1_, the man pages really can teach you just about anything you need to know about linux
[11:26] <pi6502> @noesimo, thanks than I sign off! Bye
[11:26] <Phirum> hei
[11:26] <DBO> 90% of the questions that get answered here are on the man pages
[11:26] <Phirum> bin wieder wiisi niggis
[11:26] <noiesmo> rtfm
[11:27] <PwcrLinux-Away> !language
[11:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:27] <DBO> busy night huh thoreauputic?
[11:27] <noiesmo> who me
[11:28] <noiesmo> sorry about that
[11:28] <thoreauputic> DBO: heh
[11:28] <DBO> noiesmo, I think he was talking to Phirum
[11:28] <bliss1_> DBO; yes the man pages and the docs at the qemu web site are very helpful so here is the dsmeg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11552 what  parts would you google (as this is what you said before)
[11:28] <noiesmo> oops just read it
[11:28] <dominic_> kapoya uy
[11:28] <dominic_> mga pangit mga tawo dri
[11:28] <dominic_> bilasa
[11:28] <dominic_> alay bout
[11:28] <Killgore> i think i give up on windows
[11:28] <noiesmo> dominic_, go away
[11:29] <thoreauputic> dominic_: english please
[11:29] <dominic_> dli kantigo bogo pati pag pa connect /dev/video dli mo tabang pangit adnormal
[11:29] <ic56> dominic_ does file /dev/video exist on your system?
[11:29] <dominic_> sir
[11:29] <dominic_> nothing
[11:29] <DBO> bliss1_, looks to me like you are running out of virtual memory and its kill qemu
[11:29] <zhLilDoggi> wheres ubuntu's fonts located at?
[11:30] <dominic_> ic56 help me pls.
[11:30] <noiesmo> Killgore, I take it you want to install windows and then linux again?
[11:30] <DBO> zhLilDoggi, /etc/fonts
[11:30] <zhLilDoggi> thanks
[11:30] <Killgore> noiesmo: i dont really have the room for that
[11:30] <Killgore> noiesmo: i might just install ubuntu
[11:30] <noiesmo> Killgore, ok so you just want windows
[11:30] <ic56> dominic_: type: cd /dev; sudo ./MAKEDEV video
[11:30] <Killgore> yer
[11:31] <dominic_> ok
[11:31] <noiesmo> Killgore, get dos boot floppy disk , boot up fdisk /mbr format the drive and then do the windws cd thing
[11:31] <ic56> dominic_ does file /dev/video now exist?
[11:32] <noiesmo> Killgore, format the drive total to fat32 before reinstall windows
[11:32] <dominic_> how can i check if file is exist
[11:32] <noiesmo> Killgore, then ntfs when install from cd
[11:32] <ic56> dominic_: ls /dev/video
[11:34] <dominic_> yes i hav now
[11:34] <noiesmo> Killgore, I had a drive I had installed linux on and want to install windows found windows didnt like the drive untill it had been totaly wipe and formated
[11:34] <dominic_> its highlited with sharp light blue
[11:34] <Killgore> noiesmo: thats what i was afraid of. I have the tools to wipe the drive, but dont want to
[11:35] <Killgore> noiesmo: ill wait untill i get another hd and install windows to that
[11:35] <bliss1_> DBO: yep thats it about it but when I run the -m swtitch commad I am asked to do this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11668 which I do and you would think it should be ok
[11:35] <dominic_> when i use my camorama could not connect to video /dev/video
[11:35] <ic56> dominic_: good.  I cannot help you further but at least you can now tell the next buy that that part has been done.  Also, please respect the rules of the channel.  You have repeatedly broken them over the past few hours and have annoyed many people.
[11:36] <ic56> dominic_: `buy' --> `guy'
[11:36] <tristan_> Hello
[11:36] <dominic_> thanks
[11:36] <tristan_> Anyone knows a tool to cut video files?
[11:36] <Killgore> is cedaga on apt? or will i have to compile it
[11:37] <tristan_> I downloaded the news and just want to keep part of it. How can I do?
[11:37] <ic56> tristan_: are you talking about Usenet newsgroups?
[11:37] <tristan_> No
[11:38] <tristan_> I speaking of tv news
[11:38] <ic56> tristan_: ah, no idea.  Sorry.
[11:38] <dominic_> i think do i nid to mount my usb
[11:40] <Killgore> AHA!
[11:40] <noiesmo> Killgore, np good luck :)
[11:40] <Killgore> linux wins again
[11:40] <Killgore> my data partition was set to bootable and the windows partition was not
[11:41] <Killgore> which idiot did that
[11:41] <noiesmo> Killgore, Dooh
[11:42] <Killgore> once more then i give up
[11:42] <mico> hi,  gonna install myself ubuntu from livecd, but i have ADSL connection, anyone knows how can i get ADSL to work after?
[11:42] <noiesmo> Killgore, it's all a learning curve
[11:42] <mico> and i want fvwm95 as a window manager, because i have 166mhz p2 with 32ram
[11:42] <mico> is it possible to get adsl and fvwm95 on ubuntu?
[11:43] <dominic_> my creative camera is completely annoying it took 3 days to configure my camera but still i cant watch it......
[11:43] <thoreauputic> Micksa: yes and yes
[11:43] <noiesmo> mico, if adsl works now for windows say it will work for ubuntu as long as using ethernet
[11:43] <mico> noiesmo does pppoeconf come with livecd?
[11:43] <thoreauputic> bah s/Micksa/mico
[11:43] <noiesmo> mico, not sure
[11:44] <Azertyuuu> hey all, if i enable nvidia-glx on my system, the fonts in KDE get smaller ! ? strange, although the size hasn't changed
[11:45] <bluey> where are the bindings stored for system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts ? there are things like launch media player which are defaulted to the wrong apps, where can they be changed?
[11:46] <bliss1_> are there any drawbacks to not having a swap partition
[11:46] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: yes
[11:46] <morefiend> bliss1_: everything has to be in memory
[11:47] <morefiend> if you run out it gets slow as hell
[11:47] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: if you run out of RAm, you have no backup
[11:47] <bluey> if you have 1+ gig of ram you will not use swap normally
[11:47] <morefiend> I have 768 and I rarely use swap
[11:47] <morefiend> but when I need it, I'm glad it's there
[11:48] <bluey> i've never used swap, i have 1 gig ram
[11:48] <thoreauputic> bluey: true - but it depends what you are doing - for instance heavy video editing can chew up your RAM
[11:48] <morefiend> speaking of which, is there a way to flush swap and force it to use RAM if available?
[11:48] <bluey> i can compile/game/music/encode etc etc all without using swap
[11:48] <Killgore> Azertyuuu: do you have a higher resolution or is it just small font
[11:48] <bliss1_> So I should make one since I only have one partition on my Harddrive and thats go ubuntu on it
[11:48] <thoreauputic> morefiend: the kernel does that for you
[11:49] <morefiend> I meant is there a userspace app that does it
[11:49] <thoreauputic> morefiend: you can do sudo swapoff -a && sudo swapon -a
[11:49] <Bambino> how di i open a log?
[11:49] <Bambino> I wanna read xorg.0.log
[11:49] <Killgore> nano, vi, nedit
[11:49] <Killgore> any of those programs
[11:49] <stu_> I like BEAVER ;-)
[11:49] <Killgore> ie
[11:49] <bluey> thoreauputic: ye, there is probably some occasions when you might need swap, i would say it's pretty rare though
[11:49] <thoreauputic> Bambino: or  less /var/log/xorg.0.log
[11:49] <Killgore> sudo nano xorg.0.log
[11:50] <morefiend> bambino: try vi, less, tail, etc
[11:50] <Killgore> thoreauputic: yeah that will show you the last 10 lines of the document
[11:50] <Killgore> no tail will
[11:50] <thoreauputic> Killgore: no it won't
[11:50] <sandra> Hello.
[11:50] <thoreauputic> Killgore: it will show it in the pager
[11:51] <Killgore> thoreauputic: irc is annoying with slow connections becuase you dont know if your ahead or behind someone
[11:51] <bluey> does anyone know where the bindings are stored for system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts in gnome ?
[11:51] <sandra> After installing ubuntu-desktop on my kubuntu box I can't boot it anymore. It fails to load devmapper (for my encrypted disks).
[11:52] <bliss1_> morefriend: so when you make a swap partiyion you alllocate RAM  to it but in which sort of cases would this ram be needed
[11:52] <sandra> The error is (among others): Incompatible libdevmapper 1.01.03 (2005-06-13)(compat) and kernel driver. ant ideas ?
[11:52] <thoreauputic> Killgore: right I missed your "tail" commnet
[11:52] <thoreauputic> Killgore: sorry
[11:52] <morefiend> bliss1_: you don't allocate ram to your swap partition
[11:52] <bluey> bliss1_: swap is virtual memory, it uses your harddisk
[11:53] <morefiend> you allocate disk space and use it when you run out of ram
[11:53] <Killgore> noisemo: >_<
[11:53] <Killgore> ok hes gone but still
[11:53] <morefiend> like someone said when doing video editing and sometimes when ripping or encoding digital audio
[11:53] <Killgore> >_<
[11:54] <Killgore> does anyone know how to change drive letter associations
[11:54] <morefiend> depends on your cpu and ram speed too
[11:54] <morefiend> killgore: drive letter?
[11:54] <Killgore> ok heres the problem
[11:54] <morefiend> as in hda hdb hdc etc?
[11:54] <Killgore> i have a fat32 partition which windows thinks is C: drive
[11:54] <thoreauputic> Killgore: #windows ? *grin*
[11:54] <Killgore> sorry windows question w/linux flavour
[11:55] <Killgore> just a sprinkling of linux :P
[11:55] <}{ircop}{> irc.irc-vse.org
[11:55] <bliss1_> bluey: thats maybe why I get a problem with qemu which is killed beacuse of not enough virtaul memory although I do have 768 of normal RAM
[11:55] <morefiend> are you trying to do it in windows or linux?
[11:55] <sandra> no one knows ?
[11:55] <Killgore> windows and linux
[11:55] <Killgore> hmm
[11:55] <Killgore> ill check out that chan
[11:56] <bluey> bliss1_: you would resize your swap partition, that would give you extra virtual memory
[11:56] <bluey> could*
[11:56] <morefiend> sandra: sorry, I don't use encrypted fs
[11:57] <bliss1_> bluey: how big should my swap partition be I do not think I have one at all is that possible
[11:57] <ic56> Killgore: on Windows, try `help assign'.
[11:57] <Killgore> 512mb or 2.5 times your ram
[11:57] <Azertyuuu> Killgore:  it's the same resolution. The fonts in Opera don't change, it only happens in KDE
[11:57] <Killgore> ic56: yeah? with or without quotes
[11:57] <bluey> bliss1_: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[11:57] <morefiend> 2.5 times ram when you have a more then 768 or so is somewhat wasteful
[11:58] <Killgore> yes true
[11:58] <morefiend> really it all depends on what you plan on doing
[11:58] <thoreauputic> 512 MB swap is enough in general
[11:58] <bluey> bliss1_: if you see Linux swap / Solaris, thats your swap partition
[11:59] <Killgore> unless you have a woefully low amount of ram
[11:59] <Killgore> ic56: nothing happened
[11:59] <morefiend> killgore what version of windows are you running?
[12:00] <Killgore> XP pro although it isnt installed yet
[12:00] <morefiend> use disk management to change the drive letter in windows
[12:00] <ic56> bliss1: give yourself as much swap as you think you need to be able to run your apps.  A few decades ago, the rule of thumb was twice your memory.  That's when servers had 4 MB RAM and people were willing to put up with insane slowness to get the job done.  These rules won't serve you well if you're accustomed to a modern environment.  Today the object is to minimize swap.
[12:00] <bliss1_> bluey; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11669
[12:00] <Killgore> hmmm maybe i can do it from the recovery console
[12:01] <morefiend> why do you want to change the drive letter rather device in linux?
[12:01] <bluey> bliss1_: interesting, you only have one partition
[12:02] <Killgore> can i give it a new letter? because i need to change it to D: or something because it cant be C:
[12:02] <bliss1_> bluey: I thought ubuntu makes one by default
[12:02] <morefiend> yeah, you can make it D in windows but why do you need to change it in linux?
[12:02] <Killgore> i dont
[12:02] <Killgore> but could i?
[12:02] <morefiend> ok then
[12:02] <morefiend> I don't think so
[12:02] <bluey> bliss1_: ubuntu should create a swap and root partition
[12:03] <morefiend> linux does it based on the device location on the IDE bus
[12:03] <morefiend> or scsi bus for that matter
[12:03] <morefiend> you can change the mount point but I don't think you can change the device
[12:03] <bluey> bliss1_: use cfdisk and see if you have any free space
[12:03] <Killgore> morefiend: yeah i know so i guess i can use linux
[12:03] <bliss1_> bluey: no root partition strange?
[12:03] <Killgore> LVM
[12:03] <Killgore> would have been set up
[12:03] <bluey> bliss1_: ye that one you have is the root
[12:04] <bliss1_> bluey: whats the command for cfdisk just cfdisk /dev/hda
[12:05] <bluey> bliss1_: sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[12:05] <morefiend> bliss1_ just so you know, you might not want to do that while the drive is mounted
[12:05] <morefiend> I would use a boot disk
[12:05] <sandra> Does anybody know how is the device mapper module called ?
[12:05] <cloakable> I've made a private APT repository using an Ubuntu iso (I have no internet at home), and I'm wondering what stuff on the image I don't need for a working repository, and how to add new packages.
[12:06] <ic56> morefiend is correct: you cannot change the device.  If we were talking about separate disks, you could swap cables.  But I think Killgore is dealing with partitions of a single disk.
[12:06] <bluey> hes only looking to see if there is any space, and it's fine to work on it if hes no using a mounted partition
[12:06] <morefiend> ok yeah
[12:06] <bliss1_> morefriend; I can look at gparted and see what free space I have
[12:06] <bluey> cfdisk should tell you if you have any unpartitioned pace
[12:06] <bluey> space*
[12:07] <morefiend> some BIOS's let you swap the IDE channels and master/slave too
[12:07] <morefiend> which would in turn change the device
[12:07] <Killgore> gah
[12:07] <Killgore> this is crap
[12:07] <thebrasse> Hello! Can someone tell me why me BIOS clock not has the same time as my system clock (the system clock is +2h)? I'm guessing there is a setting somewhere controling this, but I can't find it. Meybe someone here can point me in the right direction?
[12:07] <morefiend> killgore: did windows boot up?
[12:07] <Killgore> i need a windows-live cd
[12:07] <Killgore> no it cant
[12:08] <morefiend> why can't it?
[12:08] <Killgore> because it creates a partition called D: where it installs itself to
[12:08] <Killgore> but it calls my data partition C: and tries to boot from that
[12:08] <morefiend> whenever I've tried dual booting I install windows first.
[12:08] <Killgore> if i could then i woudl
[12:08] <morefiend> most linux installers seem to be smarter about dealing with an existing windows install that the other way around
[12:09] <ic56> thebrasse: when you say your system clock is off, do you mean the output of the date command, without arguments, or do you mean the actual system clock, in GMT?
[12:09] <Killgore> morefiend: yer i give up on this
[12:09] <Killgore> morefiend: it seems unsolvable, just a big loop of me doing the same thing over and over again
[12:10] <thebrasse> ic56: oh... I mean the date command without arguments... I would like to have the BIOS clock in my local time zone...
[12:10] <Killgore> ill just install ubuntu it will be more fun that way
[12:10] <bluey> killgore: whats the problem?
[12:10] <Killgore> you have to set the BIOS manually
[12:10] <morefiend> what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:10] <Killgore> bluey: can you see my earlier
[12:10] <Killgore> messages
[12:11] <sandra> how do I downgrade a package to the last installed version ?
[12:11] <josh_ki> hey
[12:11] <abnoy> sige makalayas na nga
[12:11] <josh_ki> i have to recompile my kernel
[12:11] <ic56> thebrasse: what timezone are you in?
[12:11] <morefiend> install windows on an empty partition of a linux install?
[12:11] <josh_ki> and have starndard installation
[12:11] <Killgore> morefiend: i just want windows installed
[12:11] <bart-19> vaya mierda de chat
[12:11] <josh_ki> what packages i have to download to can compile kernel?
[12:11] <thebrasse> ic56: GMT+1, Sweden
[12:11] <morefiend> and don't wanna wipe out a linux install or are you doing a fresh install, wipe all disks
[12:11] <bluey> killgore: it's usually best to install windows first, then install other os's
[12:12] <bluey> killgore: windows likes to overwrite the mbr
[12:12] <Killgore> bluey, morefiend: thanks for the offers of help but i dont think i will ever get windows on this hd until i wipe it
[12:12] <Killgore> which is not going to happen
[12:12] <morefiend> ehh, ur' drive is better off
[12:12] <sandra> Can anybody tell me the output of ls /etc/rc.*/*crypt* ?
[12:12] <pinpoint> Killgore: get a boot disk with fdisk
[12:13] <pinpoint> > fdisk /mbr
[12:13] <pinpoint> to get windows back
[12:13] <morefiend> windows isn't installed is it?
[12:13] <bliss1_> bluey: gparted shows size 38154   used 5988  unused 32166
[12:13] <josh_ki> what packages i have to download to can compile kernel?
[12:13] <Sulle-> !whois morefiend
[12:13] <Killgore> pinpoint: ive tried that
[12:13] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Sulle-
[12:13] <Killgore> morefiend: no
[12:13] <Sulle-> lol :P
[12:14] <morefiend> then fdisk /mbr won't help
[12:14] <morefiend> Sulle: what do you mean who am I?
[12:14] <bluey> bliss1_ is the unused unpartitioned space?
[12:14] <ic56> thebrasse: that makes sense. GMT+1 +1 for daylight savings = 2 hours off.  Edit /etc/default/rcS and change `UTC=' to `no'.  You may have to reset your BIOS clock next time you boot, because the system clock will get written to it when you shutdown.
[12:14] <Sulle-> morefiend,  i am just trying to figure out why the /whois command doesnt work
[12:14] <Sulle-> :P
[12:14] <Killgore> its the channels settings isnt it?
[12:14] <morefiend> ok then
[12:15] <Sulle-> Killgore, i think so
[12:15] <bliss1_> bluey; no its not unallocated space its free space on dev/hda1
[12:15] <morefiend> no, my whois works
[12:15] <Sulle-> i am realy new to ubuntu server on mirc. so can annyone give me a tip on where i can "hang" i mean a good friendly channel and so on ?
[12:16] <bluey> bliss1_: ye, that means you need to resize your hda1 partition if you want a swap partition
[12:16] <bluey> bliss1_: gparted can do that for you
[12:16] <thebrasse> ic56: Nice!
[12:16] <Killgore> morefiend: you might have to be registered
[12:16] <bliss1_> bluey: from a live cd
[12:16] <morefiend> I'm not
[12:16] <Sulle-> not me eather
[12:16] <bluey> bliss1_: ye, you need to do it from a livecd or bootdisk or someting
[12:17] <thebrasse> ic56: maybe you also know how to read to hardware clock from within linux?
[12:17] <bluey> bliss1_: you can't work on it when it's mounted
[12:17] <rob_p> sandra: What's up?  Problems with crypto-disks?
[12:17] <bliss1_> bluey: what size
[12:17] <Sulle-> annyone got a tip for a good channel. where it is alot of nice ppl and so on ?.
[12:17] <morefiend> Sulle-  that's hit or miss on IRC
[12:18] <sandra> rob_p: yes.
[12:18] <morefiend> you'll always find at least one asshole in every channel that think they're the god of computing
[12:18] <bluey> bliss1_: well, you will keep the start the same, you just need to modify the end size
[12:18] <ic56> thebrasse: man hwclock
[12:18] <bliss1_> bluey: is it twice the size of RAM
[12:18] <morefiend> you just have to ignore them
[12:18] <Jhair> the god of computing in #ubuntu !? uh?
[12:19] <Killgore> ubotu lol
[12:19] <ubotu> Killgore: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:19] <Sulle-> morefiend, hit or miss?, sry but i did not understand that one
[12:19] <Killgore> you are a god ubotu
[12:19] <rob_p> sandra: What's not working?
[12:19] <morefiend> actually I haven't come by any assheads in here in a while
[12:19] <Killgore> lol assheads?
[12:19] <morefiend> hit or miss is like saying anything can happen
[12:19] <bluey> bliss1_: 512mb is usually enough for swap
[12:19] <Jhair> morefiend: I think this channeln is lots friendlier than others where such assholes are rather common, like #debian
[12:20] <morefiend> like baseball you can hit or miss when batting
[12:20] <Sulle-> ok
[12:20] <sandra> rob_p: Devmapper is just not there, the error is Incompatible libdevmapper 1.01.03 (2005-06-13)(compat) and kernel driver.
[12:20] <bluey> bliss1_: but if you have alot of disk space you can use 1 gig
[12:20] <morefiend> jhair: I agree
[12:20] <Sulle-> but guys, do u know anny other good channels where ican hang ?
[12:20] <Sulle-> or what ?
[12:20] <morefiend> I don't know about Debian, but I've definatly seen my share in #bash
[12:20] <cYrExII> hi could anyone tell me how to install enlightenment and make it work at ubuntu?
[12:20] <rob_p> sandra: Did you install dm-crypt?
[12:20] <Killgore> Sulle-: where do you live
[12:20] <Sulle-> norwayu
[12:20] <bluey> bliss1_: gparted has a resize command you can use
[12:20] <Sulle-> norway
[12:21] <Killgore> Sulle-: i hang in ubuntu-au <- aussie chan, so maybe ubuntu-nw?
[12:21] <rasputni1> cYrExII: on breezy?
[12:21] <sandra> rob_p: it is installed. This worked for a year untill today.
[12:21] <Sulle-> * ubuntu.no :That channel doesn't exist
[12:21] <Sulle-> nope :)
[12:21] <Killgore> bl
[12:22] <rob_p> sandra: I see!  What have you done recently, that might have caused it?
[12:22] <Killgore> not sure where you would find that stuff out
[12:22] <Flogee> Hello. I am having GeForce6600GT graphics card.With what command coiuld I update the drivers (planet penguin racer doesn't work smoothjly :(((( )
[12:22] <Sulle-> but annyway, isnt there anny "comunity" or a place ppl just hang around and talk about "everything".
[12:22] <Killgore> yeah
[12:22] <kaning> has anyone gotten a built in sd card reader to work?
[12:22] <cYrExII> yes Raskall
[12:22] <Killgore>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:22] <bliss1_> bluey: ok thanks
[12:22] <cYrExII> yes rasputnil
[12:22] <sandra> rob_p: removed some things fron init and installed ubuntu-desktop.
[12:22] <morefiend> kaning: i've gotten the sd reader on my printer working ok
[12:23] <Killgore> oh no not printers
[12:23] <Killgore> mine wont work
[12:23] <kaning> i meant on a laptop
[12:23] <sandra> rob_p: I added those things, no change.
[12:23] <morefiend> killgore: printer or sd reader?
[12:23] <bluey> bliss1_: np. if you download the ubuntu live cd, you should beable to do it.
[12:23] <Killgore> printer
[12:23] <morefiend> kaning: nope not on a laptop
[12:23] <Killgore> its in the list too
[12:23] <kaning> i have a dell inspiron 6000 with a built in sdcard reader which i'm trying to get to work
[12:23] <rob_p> sandra: Do you sill have /etc/init.d/cryptdisks startup script?
[12:23] <morefiend> it may use the scsi bus though, that's what the ones on my printer use
[12:23] <bliss1_> bluey: I have got the kubuntu lice cd
[12:24] <bliss1_> live
[12:24] <morefiend> killgore: what printer?
[12:24] <kaning> i came across this link i thought it would be of interest to anyone
[12:24] <kaning> http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc/insp6000/p-proc.html
[12:24] <bluey> bliss1_: that should do it then :), if you have any problems just ask
[12:24] <Killgore> cannon BJC-200SP
[12:24] <Killgore> i think
[12:24] <atsi> hi
[12:24] <kaning> but i still can't get my head around it
[12:24] <bliss1_> bluey: I will go and do it now thanks
[12:24] <Sulle-> damn, i am soo bored at work at the moment. what can i do ?
[12:24] <bluey> bliss1_: k
[12:24] <morefiend> ur' using cups I imagine
[12:25] <Killgore> did you join offtopic
[12:25] <Sulle-> <-- ?
[12:25] <Bambino> I opened xorg.conf in vim. I edited a part. How do I save?
[12:25] <Sulle-> i did.
[12:25] <Killgore> morefiend: no idea just used the add printer in ubuntu, but it didnt detect it
[12:25] <rasputnik> Bambino: ':wq'
[12:25] <morefiend> usb?
[12:25] <Killgore> Bambino: press esc to enter command mode then :wq!
[12:25] <Killgore> morefiend: no printer port
[12:25] <Sulle-> annyone got a idea for what i can do at the moment on my NEW linux machine?.. i am so bored at work that i think i will die.
[12:25] <morefiend> ooh, nevermind
[12:26] <morefiend> I hate LPT
[12:26] <Dolm> sweet!
[12:26] <rasputnik> Sulle-: learn a new programming language
[12:26] <Dolm> i got my gprs working
[12:26] <Killgore> morefiend: lol
[12:26] <Sulle-> hmmm, maybe not a bad idea. anny tips of anny good ones mr rasputnik ?
[12:26] <morefiend> Sulle-: I learned how to set up different kinds of servers when I started using Linux
[12:26] <Killgore> Sulle-:python
[12:26] <atsi> i would like to setup a local repository for a lan with no access to the net. some machines running sarge and other's ubuntu. i got access to a speedy mirror, but it is not connected to the LAN. is there any way to get all the files to setup the mirror, manually? if yes, then how can i check for updates on that mirror?
[12:26] <rasputnik> Sulle-: what do you know already?
[12:26] <sandra> rob_p: the error: http://paste.lisp.org/display/18726
[12:27] <Sulle-> just realy small c++
[12:27] <Dolm> all the junk i went through and a a very simple walththrough using bluez-utils and pppconfig did the trick
[12:27] <Sulle-> not alot just realy basic. i am kinda new in programing and linux.
[12:27] <rasputnik> Sulle-: shit. then anything would be a step up (even python haha)
[12:27] <morefiend> have any of you tried using Ubuntu on a SAN?
[12:27] <Sulle-> :P heehe yeah
[12:27] <rob_p> sandra: What about symlinks for that startup script, in rc0.d and rc6.d?
[12:27] <ic56> Sulle-  ls /usr/bin and read the manpages of commands that sounds interesting.  Great way to kill time yet be productive.  Alternately, Applications> Games> Gnometris :-)
[12:27] <rasputnik> Sulle-: ruby
[12:27] <Sulle-> but what is the best ?. why is it the best?. and so on .
[12:27] <Killgore> Sulle-: dont ask that
[12:27] <rasputnik> Sulle-: ruby. because I said. go and learn
[12:27] <morefiend> Sulle-: there really is no "best"
[12:28] <rasputnik> :)
[12:28] <Killgore> Sulle-: we dont want a flame war
[12:28] <Sulle-> ok
[12:28] <Sulle-> sry
[12:28] <Killgore> BTW Visual Basic FTW!!!!
[12:28] <morefiend> they all have their high and low points and each are suited for different jobs
[12:28] <sandra> rob_p: they are there, but symlinks won't solve the problem.
[12:28] <Jhair> Sulle-: there is no best language, some languages are very good at some things and very bad at other things, no language is perfect.
[12:28] <kaning> no help with the sd card reader?
[12:29] <rob_p> Do you have dm-crypt listed in /etc/modules?
[12:29] <rasputnik> Sulle-: if you're a system admin, try ruby or python (not perl it's a bit clanky).
[12:29] <Killgore> Sulle-: but its better to start on a basic language to learn the principles of good programming
[12:29] <Sulle-> ok, i am realy glad that you ppl take ur time to answer me. eaven its stupid questions.
[12:29] <morefiend> kaning: have you checked what devices are on the different buses
[12:29] <morefiend> in /proc or /sys
[12:30] <kaning> i did a lshal and greped sd
[12:30] <rasputnik> kaning: try a 'dmesg|tail -50' - see whether the kernel noticed anything
[12:30] <sandra> rob_p: as I expected, a mssing module was the problem (but I did't now its name): dm-med
[12:30] <kaning> ok
[12:30] <bluey> Sulle-: assembler/c/c++, all you will ever ned :)
[12:30] <rasputnik> bluey: lol
[12:30] <bluey> maybe a little bash as well :P
[12:31] <jmp_me> assembler
[12:31] <jmp_me> nothing else
[12:31] <jmp_me> he he he
[12:31] <rob_p> sandra: Yeah, I was going to ask next about dm-mod.
[12:31] <Killgore> lol
[12:31] <Killgore> what about internet code
[12:31] <kaning> no not finding it
[12:31] <ic56> bluey: *everything* can be done in awk.  Even assembly generation. :-)
[12:31] <kaning> i guess i'll have to wait for the next kernel then
[12:31] <bluey> ic56: :)
[12:31] <Sulle-> Killgore, what do u mean about internet code?
[12:31] <morefiend> is there a SD module that needs to be loaded?
[12:31] <jmp_me> realtime binary programming
[12:31] <jmp_me> he he he
[12:32] <Killgore> oh quick the next part is 0001
[12:32] <raboof> hi. i'm trying to find the device id for my eth0 card. lspci: http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/249 those dont sound like ethernet cards do they?
[12:32] <Killgore> Sulle-: no i meant languages that are commonly used for internet application
[12:32] <morefiend> I have a sd_mod loaded but I'm not sure if thats the SD you're looking for
[12:32] <raboof> it works with the bmac driver
[12:32] <Sulle-> ok
[12:32] <void^> sd_mod is scsi device
[12:33] <Sulle-> but brb, gonna read some of that python tutorial
[12:33] <Sulle-> :=)
[12:33] <morefiend> which is what the SD reader is seen as
[12:33] <bluey> killgore: glibc is fine for doing sockets
[12:33] <rob_p> sandra:  So ya got it figured out then?  Hope so anyway. :-)
[12:33] <damotor> hi
[12:33] <rasputnik> bluey: now you are just scaring people
[12:33] <Killgore> AHHH!
[12:33] <raboof> where else could i look?
[12:34] <sandra> rob_p: yes, I still has some clean up to do.
[12:34] <rasputnik> raboof: is that really all you have from lspci? it's very short.
[12:34] <damotor> do u know how can I delay a task in planner because the worker is busy at some moment?
[12:35] <sandra> rob_p: thank you for your help!
[12:35] <Killgore> hey
[12:35] <Killgore> alsa doesnt give me very good bass on my songs
[12:35] <morefiend> no one has any SAN experience?
[12:35] <morefiend> killgore, have you adjusted the levels?
[12:35] <raboof> rasputnik: jep (old powermac g3)
[12:35] <bluey> killgore: thats probably your speakers
[12:36] <Killgore> can i get proper creative drivers? windows had awesome bass w/my senheisser headphones
[12:36] <Killgore> morefiend: adjusting the bass level does nothign
[12:36] <sandra> any ideas how to restore /etc/rc?.d/ to default ?
[12:36] <morefiend> I have a creative 4.1 that sounds pretty damn good on my SB Live 5.1
[12:36] <bluey> killgore: i use a audigy 2 zs with emu10k and it works fine
[12:36] <rasputnik> raboof: ah, don't know much about mac hardware sorry
[12:37] <Killgore> morefiend: same card
[12:37] <damotor> Killgore  maybe there are some levels low in alsamixer
[12:37] <morefiend> yeah emu10k works fine for me too
[12:37] <Killgore> morefiend: there are a lot of things in that :(
[12:37] <morefiend> a lot of things in what?
[12:37] <raboof> rasputnik: i don't know much about hardware period :), maybe there's some other bus i could look at?
[12:37] <Killgore> alsamixer
[12:38] <raboof> apart from pci?
[12:38] <morefiend> oh, I didn't say that, but yeah there are
[12:38] <Killgore> yeah i know sry
[12:38] <morefiend> master, wave and pcm bass and trable are all I use
[12:39] <Nolt> Hey guys did u use CMS ?
[12:39] <ic56> raboof: device id for ethernet: dmesg |grep eth
[12:39] <bluey> killgore: applications->sound and video->volume control. that should allow you to ajust all your mixer levels
[12:39] <Frogzoo> damotor: just link from another task that finishes when the worker will be available
[12:40] <raboof> ic56: that just gives me driver used and mac address it seems
[12:40] <Killgore> bluey: hmm well ill try that but im pretty sure there is no noticeabl difference. in windows adjusting by %5 would give me a huge boost
[12:40] <bluey> killgore: if you have onboard sound as well as a pci sound card, then you might have to change device - file->change device in the volume control
[12:40] <morefiend> you have to enable tone adjustments in alsa too
[12:40] <damotor> Frogzoo that's what I did, but I was looking for an alternative to this, because then appear a flag from one task to another when they're not really linked
[12:40] <ic56> raboof: the first line on mine looks like this:  id: 0xa4  io: 0x210 eth0: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ ISA
[12:41] <Killgore> bluey: i made sure i disabled it before i installed ubuntu
[12:41] <ic56> raboof: the id is 0xa4
[12:41] <bluey> killgore: k
[12:41] <Flogee> !ntfs
[12:41] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:41] <raboof> I don't have that... just "[  518.240573]  eth0: BMAC+ at 00:50:e4:9e:3c:0c"
[12:41] <morefiend> killgore: what window manager do you use?
[12:41] <Frogzoo> damotor: they are if you think about it
[12:42] <raboof> (trying to respond to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/35398)
[12:42] <damotor> Frogzoo yes, but not in the way you must end task1 to start task2, anyway, I believe it'll do the trick, thx
[12:43] <morefiend> can the MS Intellemouse Explorer's 2 side buttons and wheel tilt be used in X.Org
[12:43] <Killgore> morefiend: im installing ubuntu now. Just going on past experience
[12:43] <ic56> sandra: I don't think there's a simple way to restore rc?.d  It's part of the base install.  Theoretically, you might find the right package and extract the file manually.  If you find out which package, please let me know...
[12:43] <morefiend> ubuntu is the distro, Gnome or KDE are window managers
[12:43] <Killgore> is it bad to have the swap partition at the very end of the drive? ubuntus partitioner says that swap is partition #3
[12:43] <Jhair> morefiend: Gnome and KDE are not exactly windows managers but desktop environments :)
[12:44] <morefiend> very true
[12:44] <Killgore> also shoudl it be primary or logical
[12:44] <morefiend> sorry
[12:44] <bluey> morefiend: actually gnome uses metacity as the window manager
[12:44] <liable> how can i archive copy /etc over rsync without being root? and then back again. i remember trying this, but iirc being root was the only real way to do it.
[12:44] <morefiend> yes yes, I know, I meant desktop environment
[12:44] <bluey> :)
[12:45] <ic56> raboof: my mistake.  I was looking at dmesg output from Debian.  Hmmm, now how do you get that info in Ubuntu?
[12:45] <morefiend> Killgore: I'm not too sure about that one.  I've wondered that myself
[12:45] <Killgore> morefiend: it seems ineficiant to go to the end of the drive over and over again
[12:46] <bluey> ic56: dmesg also works in ubuntu
[12:46] <Killgore> morefiend: considering ubuntu is at the start
[12:46] <morefiend> _if_ swap is going to be use frequently
[12:46] <Killgore> will putting swap as logical put it after the primary drive it is related to?
[12:46] <morefiend> if not it may make sense to put it at the end and save the beginning for the important stuff
[12:46] <Killgore> morefiend: hmm yeah
[12:47] <ubuntu> bluey: hi
[12:47] <Tuninho> #amule
[12:47] <morefiend> Killgore: I think it will put it after the primary
[12:47] <thoreauputic> Killgore: where you put swap won't make a lot of difference on a modern drive
[12:47] <bluey> ubuntu: hi
[12:47] <dt-oz-gc> Hi all. Running Breezy on a laptop. Why does it autodial the internet when I start the laptop? I have removed S14ppp from /etc/rd2.d.
[12:47] <ic56> Killgore: best to put things accessed often in the middle of the drive so the average seek time is lower.  swap needs to be accessed very fast or things get real slow so you want it right in the centre of the drive.
[12:47] <morefiend> I miss haveing SCSI drives in my desktop
[12:47] <Hexidigital> is there a command for updating the gnome desktop from gnome 2.12 to 2.14?
[12:47] <thoreauputic> ic56: se my commnet above :)
[12:47] <thoreauputic> *comment
[12:48] <Flogee> Hello. So... I have NTFS partitions and I want to mount them. They are being mounted every time I log in (there are shortcuts to HDB1 etc. on the desktop) but why I try to open them it says that i have no permissions. When I sudo nautilus, it can access them. How can I make it so that I wont need to give nautilus root rights every time I read the partitions?
[12:48] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[12:48] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:48] <ubuntu> bluey: I tried to resize useing live cd which i am in now useing gparted gui but got an error saying error resizing /dev/hda1
[12:49] <bluey> bluey: hmm, what error?
[12:49] <Jhair> Flogee: probably the partition is not mounted with the right permissions. What does the line in /etc/fstab for that partition say?
[12:49] <bluey> ubuntu: hmm, what error?
[12:49] <Killgore> Flogee: you can change the permissions for the drive with uid=username (flogee for example)
[12:50] <Killgore> Flogee: in fstab
[12:50] <Flogee> okay, thanks
[12:50] <Killgore> i learnt that the hard way
[12:50] <bluey> ubuntu: the partition isn't mounted is it?
[12:50] <bluey> ubuntu: df -Tlh
[12:51] <Flogee> Killgore, where in the fstab file am I meant to put that uid
[12:51] <ubuntu> bluey: it just just said error resizig hda 1  not mounted I could use command line  if you tell me the command
[12:51] <morefiend> is there any clustering software that works well with ubuntu?
[12:51] <Flogee> in options?
[12:51] <morefiend> high availability clustering that is
[12:51] <Killgore> Flogee: yeah, where all the rw, noauto the options
[12:52] <Flogee> lines are like "dev/sdb5       /media/sdb5     ntfs    defaults        0       0"
[12:52] <Killgore> ok
[12:52] <bluey> ubuntu: ok, open a terminal, and use gparted on the command line
[12:52] <Killgore> Flogee: see where it says defaults? put in rw,uid=flogee
[12:52] <Killgore> no
[12:52] <Killgore> shit
[12:52] <Killgore> Flogee: see where it says defaults? put in ro,uid=flogee
[12:52] <Flogee> okay, thanks
[12:52] <ubuntu> bluey shall i pate it pate bin
[12:52] <Killgore> whew
[12:52] <Flogee> ill try that
[12:53] <Killgore> dont ever use rw
[12:53] <Killgore> unless its dapper
[12:53] <morefiend> ?
[12:53] <bluey> ubuntu: were you running gparted as root?
[12:54] <ubuntu> bluey: i am useing gui
[12:54] <bluey> ubuntu: ok, is there a lock icon next to the partition?
[12:54] <Bambino> how do i exit VIM wihtout saving? I accidently did loads of mistaces in xorg.conf :)
[12:55] <osfameron> Bambino:  :q!
[12:55] <Jhair> Flogee: in linux when mounting nfs the file permissions are owned by root nad not readable per default, try use the uid=value, gid=value, umask=value with the pertinent values.
[12:55] <Killgore> Bambino: esc then :q!
[12:55] <Jhair> Flogee: you can find more details in the fstab and mount man pages
[12:55] <Flogee> okay.  But not with unix :P
[12:57] <Hexidigital> morefiend, want some coffee?
[12:57] <Hexidigital> :)
[12:57] <morefiend> sure do
[12:57] <Killgore> !beer
[12:57] <ubotu> Killgore: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:58] <bluey> ubuntu: easier to talk in pm
[12:58] <Killgore> how do use use beer?
[12:58] <Killgore> !beer morefiend
[12:58] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Killgore
[12:58] <Hexidigital> Killgore, ! spam commands were disabled in this chat, i think
[12:58] <ubuntu> bluey: pm ok you start it
[12:58] <morefiend> eh fuck it, morphine coffee same difference
[12:59] <Killgore> ;(
[12:59] <bluey> ubuntu: i did
[12:59] <Killgore> lol
[12:59] <Hexidigital> hehe
[12:59] <Killgore> morefiend: just pop some X ull be right
[12:59] <Hexidigital> morefiend, you know how to change splash images?
[12:59] <ubuntu> bluey: how to read it
[12:59] <morefiend> not in ubuntu
[12:59] <Cicero_> hi all
[12:59] <Killgore> does anyone know how to change the awful brown background to the splash image?
[12:59] <Hexidigital> ah... tyaw
[12:59] <bluey> ubuntu: what irc client are you using?
[01:00] <Killgore> Hexidigital: there is a program you can get
[01:00] <Hexidigital> killgore, usplash?
[01:00] <ubuntu> bluey: x-chat
[01:00] <Killgore> Hexidigital: i had it at one point no thats not it
[01:00] <morefiend> I think it's in the initrd.img but I could be wrong
[01:00] <Killgore> Hexidigital: they were like gnome extensions
[01:00] <bluey> ubuntu: hold on
[01:00] <Hexidigital> i've been trying for weeks to get this MacOSX splash to work... no luck so far... i have usplash installed, but it isn't any help
[01:01] <Hexidigital> Killgore, where did you get the package?
[01:01] <morefiend> do any of you write bash scripts?
[01:01] <Jhair> sometimes...
[01:01] <morefiend> I wrote my first script and I want opinions on it
[01:01] <rob_p> morefiend: Yeah.
[01:01] <Killgore> Hexidigital: it was off apt but i cant remember what it was called unfortunately
[01:01] <Hexidigital> :(   thanks anyway
[01:01] <morefiend> http://pastebin.com/645638
[01:01] <Jhair> just pastebin it
[01:02] <Jhair> morefiend: shebang is missing :)
[01:02] <cion> hey all How do i get my mic running?
[01:02] <Jhair> morefiend: #!/bin/sh
[01:02] <morefiend> it's in the actual script
[01:02] <morefiend> I cut out the GPL part for pastebin
[01:03] <blueyss> ubuntu: i keep messging you but you don't answer
[01:03] <apokryphos> blueyss: I don't think you can /msg on Freenode still if you're not registered.
[01:03] <ubertt> hi
[01:03] <ubuntu> blueyss thats because I do not how to where is your pm
[01:03] <morefiend> cion: try plugging it in?
[01:04] <blueyss> ubuntu: it should open up a tab at the bottom
[01:04] <ubertt> how can i upgrade my breezzy to dapper?
[01:04] <cion> morefriend: thx for the insult
[01:04] <patrick52222>  but do i activate tvout on ubuntu, ihave a nvidia graphic card
[01:04] <morefiend> cion: it was a joke relax
[01:04] <ubuntu> blueyness no it has not
[01:05] <morefiend> cion: is your volume level turned up, mic on and enabled in alsamixer?
[01:05] <cion> yeah
[01:05] <morefiend> it's not mutted
[01:05] <morefiend> muted rather
[01:05] <cion> nope
[01:05] <morefiend> what card?
[01:05] <bimberi> !tell ubertt about upgrade
[01:05] <morefiend> and it's a minijack mic right
[01:06] <cion> SIS SI7012 recognised
[01:06] <cion> yeah
[01:06] <ubuntu> x-chat 2. 4.4  ubuntu@herbert.freenode.net/#ubuntu(+tncl)
[01:06] <cion> normal little mic jack
[01:06] <morefiend> ur' sure it's in the right plug
[01:06] <patrick52222>  but do i activate tvout on ubuntu, i have a nvidia fx6600
[01:06] <ubertt> thx bimberi
[01:06] <bimberi> ubertt: yw :)
[01:06] <morefiend> does sound work
[01:06] <Killgore> hey ive heard of linux switching the plug assignments around
[01:07] <morefiend> damn penguins
[01:07] <ubuntu> blueyness ok its open
[01:07] <Killgore> someone had that problem, sound coming out of line-in
[01:07] <Flogee> Hello. The partitions work now. Anyways, I am having problems with restricted formats. "E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla" the same problem seems to happen with all multiverse packages tho I added the reposotories from the list
[01:07] <cion> yes sound is ok
[01:07] <bluey> ubuntu: you need to change your nick and register it
[01:07] <morefiend> hmm
[01:07] <Killgore> Flogee: good to hear. Did you type them in right?
[01:07] <Bambino> I feel that Ubuntu does not want me. This is what I feel. I am sorry to say :(
[01:07] <morefiend> I just plugged my mic in and started yelling....worked fine
[01:07] <Killgore> Flogee: or are you using synaptic
[01:08] <Hexidigital> killgore, does gnome-splashscreen-editor sound familiar?
[01:08] <Flogee> Killgore, the apt get commands? IO copypasted them from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restrictedformats%29
[01:08] <cion> what sound device u use ALSA?
[01:08] <morefiend> yep
[01:08] <Killgore> Hexidigital: no. You might as well try it tho
[01:08] <morefiend> is it set as a recording device in alsamixer?
[01:08] <Flogee> Actually, I don't even see multiverse in the reposotories list (i did check the box to show all)
[01:08] <cion> where do i see that?
[01:08] <Hexidigital> killgore.... i tried... i looked in the synaptic repositories... i'll give it a shot anyway
[01:08] <patrick52222>  but do i activate tvout on ubuntu, i have a nvidia fx6600
[01:09] <ubuntu> blueys : where and how
[01:09] <shrewduser> hey, how do i configure ALSA?
[01:09] <jaime> hi?
[01:09] <jaime> someone speakin spanish?
[01:09] <morefiend> I don't remember
[01:09] <Killgore> Flogee: better off editing your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <Flogee> Killgore, okay. What line should I edit/add to get multiverse
[01:10] <ubuntu> bluey: where and how
[01:10] <shrewduser> anyone? i can't seem to find how i configure my sound system (alsa)
[01:10] <blueyss> ubuntu: /msg nickserv register <password>
[01:10] <jaime> someone speakin spanish?
[01:10] <thoreauputic> !es
[01:10] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:11] <blueyss> ubuntu: to change nick - /nick <newnick>
[01:11] <Killgore> Flogee: simple sudo nano (or whatever editor you wnat) /etc/apt/sources.list. at the top will be a line that is commented (ie # at the start) remove those 2 #
[01:11] <jaime> j- #ubuntu-es
[01:11] <jaime> how do I join another channel?
[01:11] <Killgore> Flogee: it will have something like deb http:/multiverse....
[01:11] <morefiend>    / join #channel
[01:11] <jaime> ok
[01:11] <jaime> thanks
[01:11] <morefiend> no space after the /
[01:12] <thoreauputic> jaime:  /j #ubuntu-es
[01:12] <thoreauputic> ..or /join
[01:12] <Killgore> or /j
[01:12] <jaime> thanks
[01:12] <Killgore> oh wait
[01:12] <Killgore> lol
[01:12] <jaime> see U
[01:12] <thoreauputic> Killgore: hehehe :)
[01:12] <Killgore> read first before you jump into things
[01:13] <Flogee> Killgore, " deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" (and the another line for sources) is only line containing multiverse in my list
[01:13] <Flogee> in whole file I meant
[01:13] <Flogee> is it the right one
[01:13] <thoreauputic> Flogee: no - add the word multiverse on the end of your universe lines
[01:14] <Flogee> like " deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe" -> " deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe multiverse"
[01:14] <Flogee> ?
[01:14] <thoreauputic> Flogee: for example
[01:14] <thoreauputic>  deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[01:14] <Flogee> okay, thanks
[01:15] <Killgore> yay
[01:15] <shrewduser> anyone know where ubuntu keeps the alsa/sound controls? configurators? etc?
[01:15] <Killgore> i have ubuntu
[01:15] <apokryphos> shrewduser: alsamixer in terminal
[01:15] <shrewduser> ta
[01:16] <Killgore> morefiend: remember my problem from before? well grub thinks that windows is installed
[01:16] <morefiend> then there's an entry for it in menu.lst
[01:16] <morefiend> was there a windows partition when you install ubuntu?
[01:17] <Killgore> morefiend: yeah theres an entry. Lol no i removed it eheheh
[01:17] <Flogee> thanks, thoreauputic and Killgore, multiverse packages seem to be there now
[01:18] <Killgore> morefiend: i pretty much ruined everything, but it still manages to work
[01:18] <morefiend> are you gonna install windows?
[01:18] <Killgore> morefiend: cbf now
[01:18] <thoreauputic> Flogee: :) yw
[01:18] <morefiend> ?
[01:18] <r4343> blueys  got new nick
[01:18] <Killgore> morefiend: im gonna mess around with stuff ive never done before (couldnt be f*cked
[01:18] <morefiend> ehh, it won't be all bad
[01:19] <Killgore> morefiend: for example i need nvidia drivers, wine cedaga , oooh its gonna be fun
[01:19] <iopt> hi
[01:19] <morefiend> I can't count how many things I mucked up when learning linux
[01:19] <iopt> howto stop openssh
[01:19] <r4343> blueyss: got new nick
[01:19] <morefiend> iopt the server or client?
[01:19] <Killgore> sudo /etc/init.d/sshserver stop i think it is
[01:19] <blueyss> r4343: ye, i've been msging you, you can't hear?
[01:21] <blueyss> r4343: start your ssh server ill log into your machine and resize your partition
[01:21] <Killgore> lol
[01:21] <thoreauputic>  /etc/init.d/ssh stop  actually
[01:21] <Killgore> thoreauputic: ok i was close. I was relly only worried about the first part, make sure that was right
[01:22] <iopt> _RossH: stop: Name or service not known
[01:22] <blueyss> r4343: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[01:22] <iopt> _RossH: stop: Name or service not known
[01:22] <blueyss> r4343: actually are you already root?
[01:22] <r4343> blueyss; can you here me  in thcreatede tab you
[01:22] <thoreauputic> iopt: the whole command
[01:22] <blueyss> r4343: nop :(
[01:23] <iopt> how?
[01:23] <iopt> path u mean
[01:23] <r4343> blueyss I am in live cd still
[01:23] <blueyss> r4343: must be something stupid with freenode
[01:23] <Killgore> you cant pm unless you are registered
[01:23] <thoreauputic> iopt: you *do* have the openssh-server installed, right?
[01:23] <blueyss> r4343: open up a terminal, are you root ?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> blueyss: is registered and identified but i dont think r4343 is
[01:23] <Killgore> its ubuntu
[01:24] <blueyss> i'm registered
[01:24] <Killgore> ubuntu@ubuntu on the live-cd
[01:24] <blueyss> still can't pm though
[01:24] <gnomefreak> blueyss: i know thats what i just said
[01:24] <Killgore> and i belive ubuntu is the root user
[01:24] <Killgore> but sudo works without a password
[01:24] <blueyss> oh well, nevermind
[01:24] <r4343> blueyss I will install openshh I am in live cd ok
[01:25] <Hexidigital> su in terminal will make you root
[01:25] <blueyss> r4343: ssh should already be installed
[01:25] <iopt> it worked
[01:25] <fek> moin
[01:25] <blueyss> r4343: you just need to start the service - /etc/init.d/ssh start
[01:25] <iopt> using the whole path /etc/init.d/ssh stop .. worked
[01:25] <gnomefreak> sudo -i will make you root and is perferred   su has a tendency of mucking things up in ubuntu
[01:26] <r4343> blueyss ok just a sec
[01:26] <Hexidigital> <--- mucks things up on a regular basis
[01:26] <blueyss> k
[01:26] <thoreauputic> blueyss: AFAIK the live CD only has the client
[01:26] <iopt> now I have another qs , how can i disconnect someone  logged into my box remotely using ssh
[01:26] <gnomefreak> iopt: kill the ssh connection
[01:26] <blueyss> well in that case, he will need to do - sudo passwd root
[01:26] <iopt> how?
[01:27] <iopt> I want to kill only one user
[01:27] <Killgore> you can just use sudo
[01:27] <Killgore> it works fine
[01:27] <Killgore> well it did for me
[01:27] <gnomefreak> iopt: how many people are gonna be ssh'ed into your system?
[01:27] <iopt> 2
[01:27] <blueyss> thoreauputic: sudo passwd root, will work on the livecd right?
[01:27] <iopt> i wana kill one of them
[01:28] <thoreauputic> blueyss: completely pointless - sudo doesn't need a password on the live CD
[01:28] <morefiend> hey do any of you know anything about Proxim access points?
[01:28] <blueyss> thoreauputic: ye, but if i want to ssh in as root
[01:28] <Killgore> yeah my point for the last 5 mins thoreauputic
[01:28] <gnomefreak> iopt: i dont know how to just kill one user and not all
[01:28] <iopt> ok gnomefreak thanx for help
[01:28] <thoreauputic> blueyss: you should not ssh as root - you login then use sudo
[01:29] <blueyss> thoreauputic: i don't see why not, ill need to do root operations
[01:30] <Storkme> is there any way to view my emails from the command line?
[01:30] <blueyss> storkeme: mutt
[01:30] <thoreauputic> blueyss: *shrug* I'm just telling you the wisdom from 35 years of UNIX history - feel free to do as you wish
[01:30] <Killgore> ZOMG IVE NEVER SEEN UBUNTU BOOT THAT FAST
[01:31] <blueyss> thoreauputic: k
[01:31] <r4343> blueyss: up and running
[01:31] <ketti> hi there
[01:31] <ketti> i've got a problem with kubuntu here
[01:31] <ketti> i using the LIVE CD and the OS dont get my HDD
[01:31] <blueyss> r4343: ok, do sudo passwd
[01:31] <ketti> its jumpert to slave, i can see it @ the device manager, but not at my file system
[01:32] <ketti> can u tell me how to hang it in ?
[01:32] <blueyss> r4343: then type in something simple like cat
[01:32] <morefiend> ketti: is it mounted
[01:32] <ketti> @morefriend, how to mount !?
[01:33] <morefiend> mount -t <fs> /dev/hd?? /mount/mountpoint
[01:33] <ketti> @ Linux Knoppix i simply clicked right and set the HD to MOUNT, dunno how to mount in ubuntu
[01:33] <r4343> blueyss rex11
[01:33] <ketti> have to copy that i my terminal ?
[01:33] <blueyss> r4343: k
[01:34] <blueyss> r4343: whats your ip?
[01:34] <morefiend> or have an entry in fstab
[01:34] <ketti> the HD is my one and only hd
[01:34] <morefiend> /dev/hda1?
[01:34] <ketti> have i to type: mount -t <fs> /dev/hda1 /mount/mountpoint
[01:35] <morefiend> no no
[01:35] <morefiend> what filesystem is it?
[01:35] <ketti> NTFS
[01:35] <r4343> blueyss: I can give it you no prob but its just everybody here can you know
[01:35] <morefiend> ok, mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mount/hda
[01:35] <blueyss> r4343: ok, connect to rizon
[01:36] <thoreauputic> r4343: your IP is  <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:36] <morefiend> /dev/hda1 is the device and partition /mount/hda is where on the filesystem you want to see it
[01:36] <blueyss> r4343: irc.rizon.net, you can give me it there
[01:36] <thoreauputic> r4343: anyone can find it through the IRC client
[01:36] <ketti> only root can to that
[01:36] <morefiend> sudo
[01:36] <morefiend> or su
[01:36] <r4343> blueyss; its all yours
[01:37] <blueyss> k
[01:37] <morefiend> am I wrong or should you learn how to use the shell before you start depending on a GUI
[01:37] <ketti> mountpoint does not exist
[01:37] <morefiend> or am I just an asshole for thinking that?
[01:37] <morefiend> ketti: you have to have a dir created for the mountpoint
[01:37] <ketti> i simply want to backup my data from this HD yet
[01:37] <blueyss> r4343: ok good im in
[01:37] <ketti> after that, i install KUBUNTU as OS and then i read the manuals :P
[01:38] <morefiend> best of luck
[01:38] <morefiend> the key there is READ
[01:38] <r4343> blueynss; well I just get a cup of wisky
[01:38] <ketti> yey i know
[01:38] <ketti> but its important to backup my data NOW
[01:38] <morefiend> understandable
[01:38] <ketti> if i read yet the manuals, i can backup in 4 weeks :P
[01:39] <r4343> blueyss; good I am feeling a bit unwell
[01:39] <ketti> what does it mean, mount point /mount/hda does not exist?
[01:39] <blueyss> r4343: k
[01:39] <morefiend> I want to set up a wireless backhaul between 2 a/b/g access points using the a channel for the backhaul and b/g for client access
[01:39] <morefiend> is that possible?
[01:39] <thoreauputic> ketti: hda is the whole drive - you need for instabce hda1
[01:40] <r4343> blueyss; ok good felling better
[01:40] <thoreauputic> ketti: or whatever the name of the mount point is
[01:40] <Killgore> ketti: when we mount something, we mount the hard drive into a folder
[01:40] <Killgore> ketti: so we have to make that folder first
[01:40] <ketti> ah ok
[01:40] <morefiend> didn't I say that?
[01:40] <Killgore> ketti: sudo mkdir /media/hda
[01:40] <ketti> i have to create an HDA1 Folder in the DEV dir?
[01:40] <morefiend> NO
[01:41] <thoreauputic> Killgore: erm - we mount a volume or partition , not a whole drive
[01:41] <thoreauputic> Killgore: wrong
[01:41] <Killgore> thoreauputic: yeas i know that just putting it in laymans terms
[01:41] <morefiend> you create a folder called hda1 in /mount or /mnt or where ever you want to mount the drive
[01:41] <thoreauputic> Killgore: don't make a dir called /media/hda
[01:41] <Killgore> morefiend: yeas i agree that you should learn to use the terminal
[01:41] <thoreauputic> Killgore: it will be confusing later
[01:42] <Killgore> thoreauputic: tru tru,
[01:42] <blueyss> r4343: you have 32 gig spare on that partition
[01:42] <ketti> one moment ... be back sooon
[01:42] <morefiend> aww damn it, that whole explanation got interpreted as a damn command on irc
[01:42] <Killgore> morefiend: press up
[01:42] <r4343> blueyss; ok make a 1 or 2 gig swap
[01:42] <morefiend> @@  /dev is all your devices /dev/hda is primary master, /dev/hda1 is primary master's first partition
[01:42] <morefiend> haha
[01:43] <Killgore> pity he left :P
[01:43] <thoreauputic> Killgore: far better to use what is in fstab, or define mount points with names like "windows" or "linux" or whatever
[01:43] <Killgore> thoreauputic: yeah i agree, jumped in a little too fast
[01:43] <morefiend> could one get in trouble for broadcasting loud wifi
[01:44] <ENE|Toxic> I need some help, it seems I have a problem with my network card. It used to work just fine, but now it just hangs the computer unprovoked, keyboard, mouse, everything freezes. Is there a good log I should look at while trying to find out what's wrong? (using marvel yukon drivers, tried upgrading drivers but I get the same error).
[01:45] <thoreauputic> ;)
[01:45] <morefiend> aren't you gonna frisk me
[01:45] <morefiend> my buddy down the street wants to set up a small neighborhood WISP but I'm wondering the legality of it
[01:46] <thoreauputic> morefiend: Anything you say may be used in evidence
[01:46] <thoreauputic> ')
[01:46] <morefiend> I burn DVD's and make moonshine too
[01:46] <blueyss> (parted) p 1
[01:46] <blueyss> No Implementation: This ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout!  Parted
[01:46] <blueyss> can't resize this (yet).
[01:47] <blueyss> looks like i'll have to resize the file system and partition manually
[01:47] <morefiend> and that has nothing to do with my DHS pornography and prostitution day job
[01:48] <ENE|Toxic> Is there a good log for networking problems ? It seems my card using marvell yukon drivers hangs the entire computer (must manually reboot). It used to work fine, so I tried upgrading drivers but experiencing the same problem.
[01:48] <thoreauputic> morefiend: ROFL :D
[01:48] <r4343> blueyss: ok take it a step at a time
[01:49] <morefiend> the main problem I'm having with it is the selling or sharing of our cable bandwidth.  I'm quite sure thats a TOS violation
[01:50] <morefiend> and I don't really wanna piss off any of the HAM guys around here by raising the noise floor a few db
[01:51] <Killgore> is it bad to have this as my soundcard
[01:51] <Killgore> SB LIVE [UNKNOWN}
[01:52] <morefiend> thats what comes up for mine too
[01:52] <Killgore> k
[01:52] <Killgore> well im going to change from windows to linux see you all again soon
[01:52] <Killgore> yay
[01:53] <pokales> give me please the link to unoficial tutorial of ubuntu !!!
[01:54] <pokales> that where are a lot if easy steps
[01:54] <morefiend> pokales: new to linux?
[01:54] <bushblowz> www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:55] <pokales> yes
[01:55] <pokales> :)
[01:55] <morefiend> www.tldp.org has a lot of good stuff
[01:55] <bushblowz> thats for 5.04 i think
[01:56] <pokales> thank's
[01:56] <pokales> all
[01:56] <morefiend> linux is a lot more involved than windows
[01:56] <bushblowz> yes it is
[01:56] <morefiend> learn the shell and how the filesystem is arranged
[01:56] <bushblowz> pokales you have alot to learn
[01:56] <IMTHEONE> sh: option: command not found
[01:56] <morefiend> man and info are your best friends forever
[01:56] <pokales> i know but i don't give up
[01:57] <morefiend> that's good
[01:57] <IMTHEONE> Kernel: <IP_ADDRESS>-kanotix-3 Hostname: KanotixBox Uptime: 3 hgrep: /etc/lsb-release: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[01:57] <IMTHEONE> grep: /etc/lsb-release: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[01:57] <IMTHEONE> grep: /etc/lsb-release: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[01:57] <IMTHEONE>   Codename:  CPU: Mobile Pentium II Cache: 256 KB Bogomips: 664.53 Swap: 76 kB RAM: 185 Mb Graka: Neomagic Corporation NM2200 [MagicGraph 256AV]  (rev 20) X.Org version: 6.9.0 Treiber: Resolution: 1024x768 GLXINFO: Mesa GLX Indirect 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1) NIC: Client: xchat
[01:57] <bushblowz> yes and pokales there is also a #ubuntu channel on irc.efnet.org
[01:57] <pokales> :) mauybe you guys help me :P
[01:57] <Killgore> ubuntu FTW!
[01:57] <morefiend> don't get dependant on a GUI right away
[01:57] <bushblowz> if you cant find help here
[01:58] <pokales> where is the page for easyubuntu ?
[01:58] <morefiend> you can break X real easy and if you don't know the shell then ur' screwed
[01:58] <gnomefreak> !easyubuntu
[01:58] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[01:58] <ic56> ENE|Toxic: assuming your problem is indeed with the ethernet card, your best bet is /var/log/dmesg  and /var/log/kern.log
[01:58] <Tomcat_> morefiend: I have never broken my X and I hack around a lot. :)
[01:58] <pokales> gnomefreak thank's
[01:58] <gnomefreak> pokales: yw
[01:58] <Killgore> is easyubuntu on the repos?
[01:58] <morefiend> I broke it when switching to X.Org in Debian
[01:59] <gnomefreak> Killgore: no
[01:59] <Tomcat_> Well yes... but someone who doesn't know the console wouldn't be able to do that anyway. o_O
[01:59] <morefiend> it wasn't a big deal but if I hadn't know how to use the shell I'd have been reinstalling
[01:59] <ENE|Toxic> ic56: ok thanks. I'll take a look at it
[01:59] <morefiend> sure would, I broke it with synaptic
[01:59] <thoreauputic> bug 28429
[01:59] <Killgore> gnomefreak do i have to get source? or is it on unoficial repos
[01:59] <thoreauputic> hmm
[01:59] <pokales> i can't lohg as root
[01:59] <pokales> what is the default pass
[01:59] <thoreauputic> !root
[01:59] <blueyss> r4343: do you have anything you want to backup before i commit this?
[01:59] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:59] <pokales> i have ubuntu 5.10
[02:00] <gnomefreak> pokales: your user password adn use sudo not su
[02:00] <thoreauputic> !tell pokales about root
[02:00] <morefiend> I always run sudo pwd root right after I install
[02:00] <morefiend> that'll ask for a new password for root
[02:00] <thoreauputic> morefiend: wrong command
[02:00] <thoreauputic> sudo passwd root
[02:00] <morefiend> woops
[02:00] <thoreauputic> but it isn't needed
[02:00] <gnomefreak> ok who knows how to manully run a backtrace?
[02:01] <morefiend> HAHA, wow
[02:01] <thoreauputic> sudo -i for a root shell
[02:01] <r4343> blueyss; all files in home txt files and mail in bliss1 folder and config file for postfix
[02:01] <morefiend> I did not know that
[02:01] <morefiend> good shit
[02:02] <blueyss> r4343: ok, ill mount the drive for you, you can burn anything you want to backup before i commit it
[02:02] <r4343> blueyss; postfix master.cf
[02:02] <r4343> blueyss; not working
[02:02] <blueyss> /mnt/tmp now points to your real drive
[02:03] <r4343> blueyss; you can upload to my ftp site
[02:03] <blueyss> hmm
[02:03] <blueyss> you should beable to do it now
[02:03] <r4343> bluueyss the burner is not working properly
[02:03] <Killgore> haev u guys been doing all this via ssh?
[02:03] <blueyss> r4343: your drive is /mnt/tmp
[02:04] <blueyss> r4343: you can upload from /mnt/tmp
[02:04] <morefiend> ain't ssh great
[02:04] <r4343> blueyss ok
[02:04] <blueyss> r4343: if you run nautilus /mnt/tmp/home/ you should beable to access your users home directory
[02:07] <pokales> i try to install easy ubuntu but i have this error
[02:07] <pokales> sudo apt-get install subversion
[02:07] <pokales> Package subversion is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:07] <pokales> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:07] <pokales> is only available from another source
[02:07] <pokales> E: Package subversion has no installation candidate
[02:09] <gnomefreak> pokales: please dont paste in here use pastebin to paste
[02:09] <blueyss> r4343: you should beable to see what i'm doing if you run screen 0
[02:09] <gnomefreak> !info subversion
[02:09] <ubotu> subversion: (advanced version control system (aka. svn)), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1255 kB, Installed size: 4728 kB
[02:10] <conmiweb> hi
[02:10] <gnomefreak> pokales: its in the main repos as long as your using them not the cdrom repo you should beable to grab it
[02:10] <pokales> done
[02:11] <Killgore> pokales: ill beat u to running it :P
[02:11] <pokales> :)
[02:11] <martyn> hey guys just wanted to know would i be better running the32bit edt on my amd 64 . because tryint to get stuff to fork for the 64 bit edi is getting hard
[02:12] <saloxin> why isn't .bash_profile sourced by default?
[02:12] <Gosha> how do install wine using the dpkg command?
[02:12] <r4343> blueyss screen 0?
[02:12] <wty> dpkg -i package name
[02:13] <Gosha> ... wher should it be?
[02:13] <etienner> BenC, are you here?
[02:13] <blueyss> r4343: ye, it should let you see what i'm doing, if you run that in a terminal
[02:13] <Killgore> hey if i get all my .deb files and put them in /var/cache/apt will it use them instead of downloading?
[02:13] <BenC> etienner: yep
[02:13] <Gosha> ... dpkg -i <dir>package name?
[02:13] <etienner> BenC,  I made the Bugreport #38447 (on launchpad) and you asked me to test it also on Dapper, so my question is
[02:13] <etienner> BenC, should I install Dapper or it is the same If I test it with a live CD?
[02:13] <wty> yes
[02:14] <wty> you kan dpkg --help
[02:14] <Gosha> wty: yes to me=
[02:14] <Gosha> ?
[02:14] <wty> yes
[02:14] <Gosha> k
[02:14] <Gosha> thankies
[02:14] <Bambino> ?? ato
[02:14] <BenC> etienner: liveCD should be fine
[02:15] <etienner> ok, ill try, thank's
[02:15] <Killgore> will i be able to get higher res after i install nvidia drivers?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> !tell Killgore about fixres
[02:16] <Flogee> Hello. I think that I have some problems with my graphic card drivers or something. I installed them so that the planetpenguin racer started working, but CEDEGA tests say that i fail 3D acceleration test. How do I fix the 3d acceleration thingy
[02:16] <pokales> hy again i try to use synaptic but i have this error
[02:16] <pokales> drom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release amd64 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[02:16] <pokales> cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release amd64 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[02:16] <pokales> don't beat me :)
[02:17] <morefiend> then stop doing it
[02:17] <pokales> help me how to disable cdrom ?
[02:17] <ChristmasCpp> hy all
[02:17] <morefiend> it fricken tells you what to do in the message
[02:17] <morefiend> remember READ
[02:18] <freakabcd> what script/command does gnome run when i select ;suspend' or 'hibernate' in the logout menu ??
[02:18] <wuzzy> hi! which package contains a the file X11/extensions/shape.h???
[02:18] <freakabcd> i ask because i want to suspend/hibernate from an environment which is _not_ gnome
[02:18] <thoreauputic> pokales: don't paste here like that
[02:18] <pokales> ok sorry
[02:18] <thoreauputic> !paste
[02:18] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:18] <pokales> but where to paste
[02:18] <gnomefreak> pokales: in your /etc/apt/sources.list put a # infront of the cdrom repo and take the # away from all other lines that start with deb
[02:18] <pokales> aa ok
[02:18] <thoreauputic> pokales: read ubotu above
[02:18] <pokales> yes i see
[02:19] <blueyss> r4343: you finished backing up?
[02:19] <pokales> i wiil do from now what say uboutu\
[02:19] <kingspawn> wuzzy: probably something along the lines of X11-dev
[02:19] <r4343> blueyss: I have the bliss folder
[02:19] <conga> can you help me, according to install, why unbunto doesn't ask me for root password?
[02:19] <kingspawn> conga: because the root account is disabled
[02:19] <freakabcd> conga, because you selected regular install.
[02:19] <blueyss> r4343: ok, let me know what you are done backingup
[02:19] <thoreauputic> !find X11/extensions/shape.h
[02:19] <conga> lol
[02:19] <conga> oh
[02:19] <freakabcd> kingspawn, no it is not in expert mode ;)
[02:19] <conga> how do i create root?
[02:19] <btwen> hi
[02:19] <hartym> conga, sudo su - then passwd to set it
[02:19] <blueyss> when*
[02:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'X11/extensions/shape.h' (2 shown): (/usr/include/X11/extensions/shape.h) in x11/x11proto-xext-dev ;; (/usr/lib/TenDRA/lib/include/x5/ext.api/X11/extensions/shape.h) in universe/devel/tendra.
[02:20] <hartym> password asked is your normal user account's one of course
[02:20] <kingspawn> freakabcd: oh, are we talking about expert? i thought it was a generic question, just started following discussion
[02:20] <florin> buna
[02:20] <wuzzy> kingspawn: yeah, i have x11dev installed but it seems not to be there, some kind of extension i guess, but i cant figure out which. is there a way to search the repository for filenames or something like that?
[02:20] <r4343> bluyss: please can you save the postfix.cf and postfix.mf please its only two docs I am done
[02:20] <thoreauputic> wuzzy: ubotu just told you
[02:20] <thoreauputic> x11/x11proto-xext-dev
[02:20] <kingspawn> wuzzy: thank thoreauputic, he's got you covered (ref. ubotu)
[02:20] <freakabcd> kingspawn, no. i just pointed out that when performing an expert install it _will_ ask for root passwd and if one is entered it will be the root passwd and the account isn;t disabled
[02:21] <wuzzy> thanks!
[02:21] <kingspawn> freakabcd: ah, i see
[02:21] <Rulzern> how do I get glxgears to output FPS?
[02:21] <conga> nice, thank you hartym :)
[02:21] <thoreauputic> !info x11proto-xext-dev
[02:21] <ubotu> x11proto-xext-dev: (X11 various extension wire protocol), section x11, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 328 kB
[02:21] <freakabcd> now, someone please tell me what script/command to use for hibernate and sleep
[02:21] <r4343> blueyss can you please save the postfix.mf and postfix.cf please I am done
[02:21] <freakabcd> i'm pretty pissed that i can do these only from gnome :(
[02:21] <pokales> !mount
[02:21] <ubotu> I heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:21] <gnomefreak> freakabcd: it doesnt ask you when you go to log out?
[02:21] <Flogee> Anyone got ideas to help me fixing 3d Acceleration. I have followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia so there should be no problem with drivers :/
[02:21] <kingspawn> freakabcd: looked into man acpi? (i dont know, just throwing out ballpark-stuff here)
[02:22] <freakabcd> when they have nothing specific to do with gnome
[02:22] <freakabcd> gnomefreak, what about other environments ?
[02:22] <pokales> !windowsdrives
[02:22] <ubotu> hmm... windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:22] <freakabcd> kingspawn, i got hibernate(suspend to ram) working by running /usr/share/hal/scripts/hal-system-power-hibernate
[02:22] <r4343> blueyss; what was the problem
[02:22] <gnomefreak> freakabcd: i know my xfce does (atleast im pretty sure it does)
[02:22] <blueyss> r4343: where are they located?
[02:23] <freakabcd> and /usr/share/hal/scripts/hal-system-power-suspend doesn;t do anything :(
[02:23] <thoreauputic> !glxgears
[02:23] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[02:23] <r4343> blueyss; do a locate
[02:23] <freakabcd> gnomefreak, could you perhaps look for me and tell me what exactly it (you xfce) is doing when suspend to ram(sleep or whatever its called) is doing ?
[02:23] <GTX> how do I mount an .img file?
[02:23] <blueyss> r4343: can't you copy them to your ftp?
[02:23] <wuzzy> !find X11/extensions/Xrender.h
[02:24] <r4343> blueyss: cannot find them
[02:24] <kingspawn> freakabcd: http://www.suspend2.net/ might be worth a look
[02:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'X11/extensions/Xrender.h' (1 shown): (/usr/include/X11/extensions/Xrender.h) in libdevel/libxrender-dev.
[02:24] <freakabcd> kingspawn, err.. no.
[02:24] <thoreauputic> GTX: probably  mount -o loop file.img /mount/point
[02:24] <kingspawn> haha, ok
[02:24] <morefiend> gtx mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/iso /mount/point
[02:24] <Flogee> Hello. I think that I have some problems with my graphic card drivers or something. I installed them so that the planetpenguin racer started working, but CEDEGA tests say that i fail 3D acceleration test. How do I fix the 3d acceleration thingy
[02:24] <freakabcd> looking at that wouldn't help me as the thing already works!
[02:25] <freakabcd> just that its been customised/scriptised/whatever by the gnome/ubuntu folks
[02:25] <Killgore> Flogee: how did you install the drivers?
[02:25] <thoreauputic> morefiend: correct although usually you don't need the -t iso9660
[02:25] <freakabcd> theres no hal-system-power-hibernate etc. if you look at the suspend projects page
[02:25] <morefiend> ok
[02:25] <Flogee> Killgore, I have followed these https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:25] <blueyss> r4343: ok, searching for them now
[02:26] <Killgore> Flogee: should have done this http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[02:26] <r4343> blueyss; what was the problem with hda1
[02:26] <Flogee> okay, thanks
[02:27] <Killgore> easyubuntu is great
[02:27] <Killgore> freakabcd: yea i had a lot of problems getting even shutdown to work in blackbox
[02:27] <blueyss> r4343: can't find them either, are you sure thats what they are called, and what are they btw?. the problem is that i don't think it's a normal ext3 partition, or it has some problems, almost all of the partition programs have reported errors of some kind, thats why i said you need to backup incase this kills it
[02:28] <freakabcd> huh? shutdown?? doesn;t /sbin/shutdown work for you in BB ?
[02:28] <Killgore> freakabcd: nope
[02:28] <thoreauputic> Killgore: menu item:  gksudo /sbin/shutdown now  < -- pu that in you BB menu
[02:29] <thoreauputic> *put
[02:29] <conga> sudo su - then passwd
[02:29] <conga> oop
[02:29] <GTX> how do I open a DVD which is mounted to my cdrom drive?
[02:29] <Killgore> thoreauputic: i didnt have gksudo in there
[02:29] <r4343> blueyss: I think IFYOU FELL iI will loose everthink then STOP and I will go back in and save eveything and we can do it at some time soon
[02:29] <blueyss> r4343: you have a ubuntu installation cd incase you need to install right?
[02:29] <freakabcd> Killgore, given that regular users can;t shutdown a machine, some form of sudo is necessary!
[02:29] <thoreauputic> Killgore: well then, xterm -e sudo /sbin/shutdown now  :)
[02:30] <Killgore> wish id know that when i was using it
[02:30] <thoreauputic> but it;s just as quick from a terminal anyway
[02:31] <Killgore> thoreauputic: yeah i guess so
[02:31] <blueyss> r4343: well, theres always a risk when resizing partitions. reboot and back everything up first then, then you can do it later
[02:31] <Killgore> thoreauputic: plus my startup section didnt work
[02:31] <GTX> how do I open a DVD which is mounted to my cdrom drive?
[02:31] <thoreauputic> Killgore: then you wrote it wrong :)
[02:31] <IdleOne> GTX, right click on the icon
[02:32] <Killgore> thoreauputic: gah its always wrong :(
[02:32] <thoreauputic> Killgore: :))
[02:32] <blueyss> r4343: are you using old version of ubuntu?
[02:33] <GTX> IdleOne, sorry I mean play not open
[02:33] <ENE|Toxic> Is it possible to redirect data to the desktop? (say, tail -f --retry /var/log/somelog > /dev/desktop .. ?)
[02:33] <r4343> blueyss: BB 5.10
[02:34] <IdleOne> GTX, double clicking it should bring up the default player but you may need the dvd codecs
[02:34] <IdleOne> !dvd
[02:34] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:34] <blueyss> r4343: up to date then. just your partitions are strange
[02:34] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: you would normally use root-tail fr that - but it doesn't work in Gnome because nautilus writes the desktop
[02:34] <Killgore> thoreauputic: if i put .deb archives in /var/cache/apt will apt-get look there first for them?
[02:35] <conga> can someone help me for this config.log error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/OzVD4V44.html
[02:35] <r4343> blueyss  hda1 was windows and I moved hda3 which was unbuntu to hda1
[02:35] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: same effect if you install "alltray" and config your terminal as borderless
[02:35] <Flogee> This easy ubuntu... When I try to install driver thro it, "http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found" and gives the same problem on 3 other packages too. So, I try to make it add the repos... "http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found" (and again, the same on 3 other packages)
[02:35] <thoreauputic> Killgore: yes
[02:35] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: oh ... So nautilus has acess alone to the desktop :P
[02:35] <conga> how do i fix that?
[02:35] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: hehe, yeah that's probably true
[02:35] <GTX> IdleOne, Im on dapper sorry, forgot to menchon it
[02:35] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: it *draws* the gnome desktop
[02:36] <r4343> blueyss; did you do a cluster check
[02:36] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: ok I get the point. I'm guessing there's no way to tell nautilus to drop my date
[02:36] <blueyss> r4343: k. well reboot back to your normal installation, you can backup your stuff and do it some other time then
[02:36] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: which I personally think is brain-damaged...
[02:36] <IdleOne> GTX, try #ubuntu+1 but the libdvdcss2 file should still apply
[02:36] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: hahah indeed
[02:37] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: you can get gconf to force nautilus not to draw the desktop
[02:37] <kattbjorn> i have a system that is up and stable, and i have added 3 new drives to it.  i want to turn them into a raid 5 array.  what do i run to get a nice interface for setting this up?
[02:37] <Madeye> guys, how to access webDav with ubuntu gnome?
[02:37] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: it isn't worth the hassle IMO
[02:38] <r4343> blueyss; NO I just need the postfix  mf and cf dos we can go ahead
[02:38] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: cool, but yeah, like you said it seems like a bit to much troublesome to be worth it. Thanks for the idea though
[02:38] <Flogee> Killgore, what if easyubuntu can't find multiverse and can't add it cause it can't find it (or something)? xD
[02:38] <Flogee> tho I already did add multiverse myself earlier
[02:38] <IdleOne> !tell Flogee about multiverse
[02:38] <Flogee> :/
[02:38] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: alltray is a cool utility though - you should check that out
[02:39] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: btw why would I need "alltray" of all the tools to set my term borderless ?
[02:39] <void^> conga: did you install build-essential?
[02:39] <blueyss> r4343: i can't find them. i did find /mnt/tmp -iname *postfix* without results
[02:39] <conga> void^, nope
[02:39] <Killgore> Flogee: you tick the multiverse box lol
[02:39] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: depends on your terminal - I think Eterm has a borderless option for instance
[02:39] <r4343> bluyss: there must be a postfix directory
[02:39] <void^> conga: well, then.. you may want to install it.
[02:40] <IdleOne> conga, sudo apt-get install  build-essential
[02:40] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: alltray has a command switch that remove borders from windows
[02:40] <Flogee> Killgore, I've ticked them all lol
[02:40] <blueyss> r4343: theres a postfix in /mnt/tmp/bliss1/postfix
[02:40] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: hmm, I think so too. But I'll look into this alltray program, it seems quite nice.
[02:40] <conga> yeah, thanks void^ IdleOne :)
[02:40] <freakabcd> does anyone know the command/script to run for suspend on ubuntu breezy/dapper ?
[02:40] <r4343> blueyss: ok just a sec
[02:40] <Sho_> Hi - does anyone know if Dapper's kernel will have a backport of the reverse-engineered Broadcom 43xx driver merged into 2.6.17-rc1?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: I run fluxbox - so I can just make a key combo to remove window decorations
[02:40] <blueyss> r4343: it's probably best for you to reboot into your normal ubuntu then check for the stuff you need to backup first
[02:41] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: fluxbox definately rules :)
[02:41] <freakabcd> Sho_, #ubuntu+1 is prolly more appropriate for that question
[02:41] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: hear, hear! *grin*
[02:41] <Sho_> freakabcd: hmkay, thanks
[02:41] <ENE|Toxic> :D
[02:41] <freakabcd> although i can;t guarantee an answer there either
[02:42] <kattbjorn> no raid or mdadm configuration tools?  there's one on install, but i don't want to install.
[02:42] <GTX> IdleOne, I have been looking arround for this for ages, I cannot find it can you upload the .deb for me?
[02:42] <void^> !info dancer-ircd
[02:42] <IdleOne> !dvd
[02:42] <ubotu> dancer-ircd: (an IRC server designed for centrally maintained network), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 1.0.36-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 169 kB, Installed size: 504 kB
[02:42] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:43] <IdleOne> GTX,  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:43] <IdleOne> thats where the deb is
[02:43] <GTX> IdleOne,  It doesnt work as im on dapper
[02:43] <void^> conga: if you're trying to compile dancer ircd, consider using apt.
[02:43] <IdleOne> GTX, then #ubunbtu+1 is a better place to help
[02:43] <liable> kattbjorn: theres no gui stuff fro raid as far as i know, all cli and config editing atm
[02:43] <conga> void^, i installed it :)
[02:43] <GTX> IdleOne, all I need is the .deb can you get it for me?
[02:44] <conga> i use tarball
[02:44] <Madeye> guys, how to access webDav with ubuntu gnome?
[02:44] <IdleOne> GTX, no I cant as I am not on dapper and dont know where to get deb for dapper
[02:44] <variant> lo all, im having a problem getting proprietry ati driver to work
[02:44] <liable> kattbjorn: if you lack howto's, this isnt for raid5 but may give an idea.. http://www.jochem.name/Debian-Sarge-Raid1-mdadm
[02:44] <variant> the module loads after having done fglrxconfig
[02:45] <kattbjorn> liable: hurf.  i cringe as there is a gui during setup
[02:45] <variant> and i restart gdm but still no dri
[02:45] <kattbjorn> liable: but your suggestions are good
[02:45] <morefiend> what radeon card?
[02:45] <variant> mobility radeon x700
[02:45] <liable> kattbjorn: its part of 'partman' which isnt available out of the installer, so i guess you are out of luck..
[02:45] <variant> pci express
[02:46] <variant> morefiend: any thoughts?
[02:46] <morefiend> is dri supported on that chipset?
[02:47] <morefiend> I don't know, I have a 9700 AGP that DRI isn't suported on
[02:47] <Bambino> morefiend, variant says that yes, because it worked before so yes
[02:47] <morefiend> oh ok
[02:47] <morefiend> dunno then
[02:47] <morefiend> I've given up on them supporting the R300 any more now
[02:48] <r4343> blueyss GO aheadv I have got it
[02:49] <blueyss> r4343: ok, are you back in the livecd?
[02:50] <r4343> blueyss: I was never out of it I have postfix
[02:50] <blueyss> r4343: k
[02:50] <conga> there is no /usr/local/etc/ on ubunto?
[02:51] <conga> ubuntu
[02:51] <r4343> blueyss I think I know whats going to happen
[02:51] <blueyss> r4343: ?
[02:51] <r4343> blueyss: your still in ssh
[02:51] <blueyss> r4343: i just logged back in
[02:52] <blueyss> r4343: oh, hold on you have 2 ssh clients connected
[02:53] <Sound> problem here... i have installed wine and World of warcraft, but when i run the WoW.exe it gives some errors about OPENGL32.dll and some other dlls missing, anybody knows how to fix the problem?
[02:53] <r4343> blueyss:what do you mean
[02:53] <blueyss> r4343: nevermind. i lost connection last time and it's a ghost still connected
[02:54] <r4343> blueyss; its a bad partition I when gparted moved to hda1 it remauined o
[02:54] <r4343> blueyssremained on 1 sec for five minutes
[02:54] <zomi> hey people I have a question about a graphics card, I'm trying to install the binary nvidia drivers for
[02:55] <zomi> geforce 7800
[02:55] <Sound> i don't think i can be of much help, but what's the problem?
[02:55] <r4343> blueyss: after gparted had finished it got to one second and stayed there for ages
[02:56] <bash> ?rdate
[02:56] <blueyss> r4343: hmm, you aren't running gparted are you?
[02:56] <zomi> the drivers I get from nvidia complain about not having the right source
[02:56] <r4343> blueyss: no
[02:56] <blueyss> r4343: i'm just about to repartition the disk
[02:56] <zomi> i wonder if the card is at all supported
[02:57] <r4343> blueyss ok I am going to get a drink
[02:57] <Sound> hmm good question
[02:57] <bash> ?? rdate
[02:57] <Sound> i'm using Geforce 6800 and i'm not having any trouble
[02:59] <zomi> Sound: yes I know of many people that use geforce 6800
[02:59] <zomi> but not many who have the 7800
[02:59] <zomi> anyways thanks I have to go
[03:02] <tRSS> hey guys/gals. i used to mount my hfs+ partition (readonly) in ubuntu and since yesterday, I am unable to mount it. It seems my hfs+ partition is somehow corrupted because now I can't even boot into os x. any ideas?
[03:05] <raboof> given that bmac ethernet cards cannot be autodetected at this time and ppc macs are somewhat ;o
[03:06] <raboof> likely to contain one, should I file a bug saying the livecd should have bmac in /etc/modules?
[03:06] <winex> hi, i have a secondary slave HD (/dev/hdd), this is my old HD.. i want to backup some files.. but i cant mount it
[03:07] <_jason> winex: what happens when you try?
[03:07] <blueyss> r4343: ok, it's done, you have 1 gig of swap now
[03:07] <wuzzy> Hi! hat alternatives are there to gFTP? I need a client that supports TLS?
[03:07] <winex> i can mount the /boot partition
[03:07] <winex> because its primary
[03:07] <r4343> blueyss; WOO many thanks
[03:08] <winex> but, when i try to mount the other fs (logical) i get an error
[03:08] <blueyss> r4343: just need to create the file system
[03:08] <rcaskey_> does gfs doo TLS?
[03:08] <r4343> blueyss; thanks a pint I owe you
[03:08] <_jason> winex: paste the error (use pastebin if it's long).  Maybe someone will know about it
[03:09] <wuzzy> rcaskey_: gfs?
[03:09] <sfar> how do i swich virutal desktops in gnome with the keyboard?
[03:09] <_jason> sfar: ctrl-alt-<arrow keys>, you can change it in system > prefs> keyboard shortcuts
[03:10] <winex> the problem is, that my version of ubuntu is in spanish :(
[03:10] <tRSS> hey guys/gals. i used to mount my hfs+ partition (readonly) in ubuntu and since yesterday, I am unable to mount it. It seems my hfs+ partition is somehow corrupted because now I can't even boot into os x. any ideas?
[03:10] <_jason> winex: you can try #ubuntu-es, or paste the error and a rough translation by you on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , then give us a link
[03:10] <sfar> thanks _jason
[03:10] <winex> yes, im in both channels :)
[03:10] <blueyss> r4343: ok, should be done now
[03:11] <r4343> blueyss; many thanks I hope that its stable now so will be ok in future
[03:12] <void^> you can try `LC_ALL=C some_command` to get english output
[03:12] <blueyss> r4343: i'm just resizing hda1 so it uses the remaining space on the partition
[03:12] <freakabcd> blueyss, lvm ?
[03:13] <blueyss> freakabcd: ext2resize
[03:13] <freakabcd> ok
[03:14] <Hexidigital> hey guys... i have a how-to question... i was tinkering with the screen resolution, and noticed at 1200*900 i could use my mouse to scrool to the non-viewable part of my screen... when i restarted, it defaulted to a 1200*900, but all on the screen at once... is there a way to get it 'scrollable' at start?