[00:00] <daftykins> spaceindaver: it will have cleaned out all your program saved configs too, so if you go into ~/.configold and move programs back one by one (or just leave out the unity stuff) by moving back into ~/.config you'll be set :)
[00:01] <spaceindaver> daftykins, great, that fix was a lot easier than I was expecting
[00:02] <daftykins> no problemo
[00:02] <daftykins> i just have to do the shotgun approach with desktops 'cause i don't know too much about them
[00:03] <rpp601> what's the difference between 'ls && ls' and 'ls; ls'?
[00:03] <beijing> asdf
[00:03] <Dresk|Work> Is it normal right now for the latest Ubuntu LTS to not show proprietary drivers for NVIDIA 900 series GPUs?  I have to add a PPA manual from launchpad.net and install the packages manually, as opposed to the "Additional Drivers" tab, and it seems to always cause an error on boot
[00:04] <daftykins> rpp601: both are pretty stupid, && means do command 2 if command 1 succeeds
[00:04] <k1l> rpp601: one of them only runs the second command if the first command is running fine
[00:04] <daftykins> e.g. i usually chain together "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[00:05] <bekks> Dresk|Work: Which GPU do you have, in particular?
[00:05] <Dresk|Work> bekks, NVIDIA GTX 970, so Maxwell, PCI-E 16x
[00:05] <daftykins> Dresk|Work: launchpad? so xorg-edgers?
[00:05] <daftykins> there's no compatible driver built into ubuntu for the maxwell cards, no
[00:06] <rpp601> which is best to run 'super-long-job' && or ; 'notify-me' when it's over -- no matter the result
[00:06] <Dresk|Work> daftykins, I never quite understood the naming; I started with xorg-edgers but I didn't see packages at that PPA, so I used a launchpad.net PPA (maybe they are the same?)
[00:06] <daftykins> Dresk|Work: the package names on the page differ from what's available, once you install it you apt-get update then it's nvidia-346
[00:06] <bekks> rpp601: When the result doesnt matter, use ;
[00:06] <Dresk|Work> daftykins : Is there a reason for that?  The proprietary driver from NVIDIA has supported the 900 series since last September
[00:06] <rpp601> thx
[00:07] <daftykins> Dresk|Work: don't know why Canonical are so slow to package up a newer driver, it's just the way it goes.
[00:07] <daftykins> but yeah, don't just install a tonne of PPAs to 'make things work' that'll cause you drama in the future
[00:08] <Dresk|Work> daftykins : Even after adding the PPA I assumed I'd see it under Additional Drivers; is there a reason why it doesn't detect a proprietary driver alternative?  Is that just hardcoded / a maintained database by Canonical about the PCI device ID and corresponding drivers?
[00:08] <daftykins> Dresk|Work: pass.
[00:08] <TijG> and what with some ATI Mobility cards? I always get ~5% CPU usage from Compiz, all the time
[00:08] <Dresk|Work> daftykins : Well, so far I haven't had luck getting a smooth installation of the driver I need (every boot I get a dkms crash) - what would you recommend?
[00:09] <daftykins> 14.04.2, clean install, update... add xorg-edgers, install nvidia-346. sorted.
[00:09] <skynetguy> hi
[00:09] <Dresk|Work> daftykins : At that point now, let me add xorg-edgers
[00:09] <daftykins> Dresk|Work: if there's something wrong even then, there's something up with your setup
[00:09] <daftykins> Dresk|Work: you haven't added any PPAs at all yet?
[00:10] <Dresk|Work> daftykins : I just did a fresh install after being unhappy with what was going on prior (where I was using a launchpad.net PPA)
[00:10] <daftykins> ah ok
[00:11] <TijG> nothing on Compiz using CPU instead of the GFX card?
[00:12] <Dresk|Work> daftykins : See this guy is suggesting this PPA : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[00:12] <daftykins> TijG: they haven't been called 'ATI' for years, so maybe you're using some antique that uses the 'radeon' driver only? *shrug*
[00:12] <daftykins> Dresk|Work: yeah, no. would not touch.
[00:14] <TijG> daftykins: good call, could be! how can I check?
[00:14] <daftykins> the device? "lspci"
[00:14] <daftykins> driver in use? read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:15] <TijG> using the AMD accelerator driver from fglrx-update
[00:16] <TijG> got the Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]
[00:16] <daftykins> so that's fglrx then mmmhmm
[00:16] <k1l> !away > BlackVenom|Away
[00:16] <daftykins> i don't have a clue on the age of those mobile ones
[00:16] <XenophonF> daftykins: hey daftykins
[00:17] <TijG> bought the laptop back in march 2013
[00:17] <XenophonF> daftykins: can i submit an update for the wiki entry for the macbookpro5,1?
[00:17] <Dresk|Work> daftykins : After downloading the packages, you recommend using nvidia-xconfig to get it using the nvidia driver, or does it automagically adjust X somehow?  Last I checked Ubuntu tries to avoid a xorg.conf
[00:17] <daftykins> don't do it, no
[00:17] <daftykins> Linux as a whole doesn't use a xorg.conf no, it's all auto detect for the most part
[00:17] <XenophonF> daftykins: i got ubuntu desktop 14.10 to install and run, but i had to use legacy boot and nomodeset to do it
[00:18] <daftykins> XenophonF: i win the prize \o/ be sure to sign up and record your progress on the wiki
[00:18] <XenophonF> daftykins: i'm going to re-try Ubuntu Server 14.10 next
[00:18] <XenophonF> LOL
[00:18] <XenophonF> will do
[00:18] <Dresk|Work> Be right back, rebooting
[00:20] <TijG> even when the system is idle, compiz is using ~5% CPU :/
[00:21] <daftykins> *shrug* use a non wasteful desktop
[00:21] <Dresk|Work> daftykins : Cool, no error on start
[00:21] <TijG> it's a laptop :(
[00:21] <daftykins> desktop environment
[00:22] <TijG> suggestions? compiz is a default in Ubuntu
[00:22] <daftykins> for unity, yeah
[00:22] <daftykins> i'm saying ditch unity as a desktop environment (DE)
[00:22] <daftykins> what's the rest of the laptop spec?
[00:23] <Dresk|Work> daftykins : So as long as I don't do a dist-upgrade, I can update all packages safely with this PPA?
[00:23] <daftykins> nothing wrong with a dist-upgrade at all
[00:23] <Dresk|Work> Hm, seemed like I was warned to do a ppa-purge before doing a dist-upgrade
[00:24] <daftykins> you might be under the false impression dist-upgrade means an upgrade to a newer ubuntu, which is not what it means at all
[00:24] <daftykins> yeah. that's not what dist-upgrade does
[00:24] <Dresk|Work> I believe I was under that impression
[00:24] <daftykins> i run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade all the time to keep current on a given release
[00:24] <TijG> daftykins: Intel Core i7-2640M (2,8Ghz), 12GB RAM, 256GB SSD, ATI Radeon 6400M
[00:24] <daftykins> it's really confusingly named
[00:24] <daftykins> TijG: definitely not one of the hybrid graphics setups?
[00:25] <Dresk|Work> An ATI Radeon?  Is it really still an ATi?  I gotta look that up, AMD bought them like a decade ago
[00:25] <TijG> daftykins: yup
[00:25] <TijG> Dresk|Work: could be, it's a habit since I'm always used ATI/AMD
[00:25] <Dresk|Work> TijG : As daftykins said, just a heads up, lots of people don't know that ATi used to be AMD's cards, so, that's an AMD card, best refer to it as such
[00:26] <Dresk|Work> TijG : The ATi brand stopped completely I believe 7 years ago
[00:26] <nonuby> i have kboard shortcut ctrl+alt+t launch terminal, works fine, however after suspend and resume it no longer works, is this a known issue?
[00:26] <nonuby> 14.10/64
[00:26] <TijG> I'm getting old ;( thanks for the reminder
[00:28] <TijG> dreamcat5: although lspci still says AMD/ATI
[00:28] <crazyhead42> Hey, is there any way to make the files GUI show hidden files, even temporarily?
[00:28] <daftykins> that's a kernel identifier, so they probably keep the legacy both names
[00:29] <daftykins> crazyhead42: ctrl+H ?
[00:29] <daftykins> it's in the settings
[00:29] <crazyhead42> Thank you.
[00:31] <hammza> hi
[00:31] <justace> Is there any way to save a certain settings config?
[00:32] <justace> like if I want certain settings to be on if i'm watching movies but a different set on for music and a different set for normal use?
[00:36] <crazyhead42> I think you can do that if you use two different users.
[00:37] <game0> hey, ubuntu community, what's up?
[00:37] <game0> I have installed ubuntu server in my machine, and I'm having a problem in how to set the hostname?
[00:38] <game0> I have edited the file /etc/hosts
[00:38] <TijG> game0: try 'hostname host.name.com'
[00:38] <bazhang> !hostname | game0
[00:38] <kostkon> justace, what kind of settings
[00:38] <daftykins> you need to edit both /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname at the same time
[00:38] <game0> but it's still showing me the computer name everytime
[00:38] <TijG> game0: did you reboot after the changes?
[00:39] <daftykins> yeah you know it's not instant right?
[00:39] <game0> I will reboot
[00:39] <game0> Actually I pressed Alt+ctrl+del
[00:39] <game0> and the system restarted
[00:40] <daftykins> yeah that's... not common procedure
[00:40] <justace> kostkon: for instance, if im watching movies i dont want the screen to turn off or suspend
[00:40] <TijG> good enough
[00:40] <daftykins> sudo shutdown -r 0 = reboot
[00:40] <TijG> sudo reboot
[00:40] <justace> kostkon: but if im listening to music i want the screen to shut off without suspending
[00:40] <game0> kostkon I tried sudo nano /etc/hosts
[00:40] <game0> then I have added the following line
[00:41] <kostkon> justace, give caffeine a try then https://launchpad.net/caffeine
[00:41] <game0> <My IP> www.hostname.com
[00:41] <game0> then I did
[00:41] <game0> sudo service hostname restart
[00:41] <daftykins> wat
[00:42] <secret-fire> hello, I am having trouble with my sound not playing
[00:42] <TijG> secret-fire: it's not muted, right?
[00:42] <secret-fire> no
[00:43] <secret-fire> TijG: I went into settings and tried to test the sound no luck
[00:43] <TijG> secret-fire: does your soundcard show up in 'lspci'?
[00:43] <justace> kostkon: will this allow me to turn off the screen without suspending too?
[00:43] <kostkon> justace, probably
[00:43] <secret-fire> TijG: I can pastebin the results
[00:44] <TijG> secret-fire: sure, go ahead :)
[00:44] <justace> kostkon: well, im sold
[00:44] <secret-fire> TijG: http://pastebin.com/viEwtAU3
[00:45] <XenophonF> so... xfs or ext4?
[00:45] <XenophonF> i'm not ready for btrfs :)
[00:45] <XenophonF> or maybe i should give jfs a spin?
[00:45] <game0> still having the same problem after restarting
[00:45] <game0> what should I do?
[00:46] <game0> ubuntu people can someone help me?
[00:46] <daftykins> game0: "the same problem?" what does your prompt read, and run these please: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /etc/hosts" and "pastebinit /etc/hostname"
[00:47] <daftykins> !patience | game0
[00:47] <TijG> secret-fire: try 'sudo apt-get install libasound2 alsa-utils alsa-oss'
[00:47] <secret-fire> TijG: then try again?
[00:48] <secret-fire> TijG: still no sound
[00:48] <TijG> secret-fire: after the install open 'alsamixer'
[00:49] <TijG> secret-fire: and check if there isn't any channel muted (MM)
[00:49] <secret-fire> TijG: ok
[00:49] <secret-fire> TijG: one channel is muted under hdmi
[00:49] <game0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10438970
[00:50] <game0> that's the link that came to me
[00:50] <TijG> secret-fire: unmute by going to that channel and press m
[00:50] <TijG> secret-fire: and try playing sound
[00:51] <secret-fire> TijG:ok, done but i cant raise beyond 00
[00:51] <TijG> secret-fire: damn :/
[00:52] <daftykins> you would know if you were connected via HDMI.
[00:53] <TijG> secret-fire: oh wait, you mean MM is now 00? that's normal, it's the bars that tell the volume
[00:53] <secret-fire> yes
[00:53] <game0> I have opened the link : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10438970
[00:53] <secret-fire> no bars
[00:54] <secret-fire> TijG: not sure what to do
[00:55] <TijG> secret-fire: sorry, but that's all i've got for now :/
[00:56] <daftykins> game0: are you trying to say that your system hosts those 3 websites?
[00:56] <daftykins> game0: that is not how you setup a hosts file :)
[00:56] <game0> daftykins> , <ubottu> I have pasted the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10438970/
[00:56] <daftykins> *facepalm* yes i saw it, i'm talking to you about it XD
[00:57] <game0> no I'm not saying that
[00:57] <game0> I'm just testing
[00:57] <secret-fire> TijG: starting an update maybe that will help
[00:57] <daftykins> alright well you can test elsewhere.
[00:57] <secret-fire> TijG: since its a new install
[00:57] <daftykins> someone else can take over this one, it's past my bed time :>
[00:57] <game0> daftykins all of them aren't working
[00:57] <TijG> secret-fire: alright, let's hope so
[00:58] <game0> daftykins I was putting
[00:58] <TijG> i'm off btw, nn!
[00:58] <game0> one by one
[00:58] <game0> not all of them
[00:58] <game0> as you see
[00:58] <daftykins> stop pressing enter and stop highlighting me, i gotta go \o
[00:59] <game0> daftykins OK, no problem, thanks any how
[01:00] <game0> can someone help me in this?
[01:00] <bazhang> game0, changing hostname?
[01:01] <game0> I have installed ubuntu and tried to configure the host name but it's not working
[01:01] <game0> I tried to place it in the hosts file in many different places but all aren't working
[01:01] <game0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10438970/
[01:01] <game0> that's my file
[01:02] <bazhang> game0, are you confusing changing hostname with setting up a server?
[01:02] <game0> I can fix the file, but it will not work
[01:02] <game0> I tried many times
[01:03] <game0> still giving me, when I right "hostname"
[01:03] <game0> computername
[01:03] <game0> this is weired somehow
[01:03] <bazhang> !hostname | game0 read this
[01:05] <gcosmin> hi, how can I set my touchpad to work like on windows 8 ... if I tap once on it does not do anything, in windows 8 that means left click  ?
[01:06] <rdpo1ntbl4k> ola
[01:07] <DPensiveMind> Greetings.
[01:07] <secret-fire> can anyone help me get my sound working?
[01:08] <Fieldy> hi, what's the proper way to stop something from starting at boot, in this case, nginx?
[01:08] <bazhang> secret-fire, with pavucontrol and padevchooser?
[01:08] <bazhang> !info paprefs | secret-fire
[01:08] <secret-fire> bazhang: I have no playback whatsoever
[01:09] <bazhang> secret-fire, so you have installed those two packages and configured them then
[01:09] <secret-fire> bazhang : getting pavucontrol and the other one
[01:10] <bazhang> secret-fire, is PCM set to 100, or lower in alsamixer
[01:10] <secret-fire> bazhang : which channel?
[01:10] <akkad> getting 404's abruptly on this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/universe/binary-i386/Packages
[01:11] <akkad> is precise no longer supported?
[01:11] <secret-fire> bazhang: everything set to 0 in alsa
[01:11] <bazhang> secret-fire, open a terminal and type alsamixer
[01:11] <daftykins> !12.04 | akkad
[01:11] <bazhang> !precise
[01:11] <game0> OK, It's being changed but there is another message that comes out to me: Error:domain_name is required, how can I solve this?
[01:11] <secret-fire> bazhang : the device is hda ati hdmi all at 00
[01:12] <akkad> wonder why that url stopped working
[01:12] <bazhang> secret-fire, whats pcm set to
[01:12] <game0> it worked fine
[01:12] <secret-fire> bazhang : 100
[01:12] <codyrobbins> I’m installing the chef package and it includes a daemon that I would like to stop after the package is installed. However, neither ‘sudo stop chef-client’, ‘sudo service chef-client stop’, or ‘/etc/init.d/chef-client stop’ kill the daemon process. How do I go about figuring out what is wrong?
[01:12] <bazhang> secret-fire, dial it down to 80
[01:13] <k1l> akkad: "sudo apt-get update"
[01:13] <bazhang> !info chef-client
[01:13] <codyrobbins> bazhang: The package is named chef
[01:13] <secret-fire> bazhang: ok
[01:13] <bazhang> codyrobbins, then why use chef-client in the command
[01:13] <codyrobbins> Because that’s the init script it installs.
[01:14] <akkad> thanks. I guess Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS is getting phased out now
[01:15] <daftykins> no it's good until 2017.
[01:15] <daftykins> _2017_
[01:15] <k1l> akkad: no
[01:15] <secret-fire> bazhang: still no sound
[01:15] <k1l> akkad: did you run the apt-get command i suggested?
[01:15] <akkad> that's what is generating the error
[01:16] <k1l> can you please pastebin that?
[01:16] <akkad> sure
[01:16] <akkad> k1l https://gist.github.com/c1446f49cc5dea16b4b8
[01:19] <akkad> k1l can you reach http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/universe/binary-i386/Packages?
[01:20]  * akkad moves to just using mirrors
[01:20] <k1l> akkad: seems like the server got some hiccup. you could try a mirror or just wait till its fixed
[01:21]  * akkad loves rtfm used in cases of not rtfq
[01:35] <Thrasher> identify ranman
[01:35] <Thrasher> ack
[01:35] <Knight80> Hello everyone
[01:35] <Knight80> Can anybody help me configure Lirc on Ubuntu 14.10?
[01:36] <Thrasher> run xchat
[01:36] <Thrasher> apt-get xchat
[01:40] <flip> hey, my audio was showing as dummy driver and i uninstalled alsa and reinstalled then restarted alsa and nothing.  THis is the second time it has happened.  any idea what to do? please?
[01:42] <PlanckWalk> Firefox 36 removed the "-remote" option and broke opening links from other programs in my xubuntu install.  Is there a workaround?
[01:42] <flip> i dunno if we can get help here PlancWalk
[01:43] <daftykins> you can, just be patient
[01:43] <daftykins> it's volunteer run so be glad you even have somewhere to go :)
[01:45] <Adrian1pro> hello
[01:46] <flip> hello
[01:46] <Wenceslao> hello
[01:46] <Adrian1pro> how are you guys
[01:46] <Adrian1pro> some how i was in a channel, aand they banned me
[01:47] <flip> long day so far and im here so i can get help to get back to work so...you know, another day in paradise
[01:47] <flip> what happened
[01:47] <flip> ?
[01:47] <daftykins> !ot
[01:48] <Adrian1pro> ?
[01:49] <Adrian1pro> i need help
[01:50] <bazhang> what is your ubuntu support question Adrian1pro
[01:50] <Adrian1pro> i cant open a cd
[01:50] <bazhang> Adrian1pro, details
[01:52] <DPensiveMind> whois bazhang
[01:52] <Adrian1pro> i put a cd in the computer and i dondt no how to open it
[01:53] <Adrian1pro> can i be a operator
[01:53] <Adrian1pro> or be ops
[01:53] <GraemeLion> No
[01:53] <bazhang> Adrian1pro, are you trying to rip it, play it, or what; what version of ubuntu, which music player or other program are you trying to access it with, what exact errors are you encountering
[01:54] <Adrian1pro> its a game
[01:54] <Adrian1pro> am trying to play it
[01:54] <bazhang> Adrian1pro, please place the entirety of your answer on a single line dont use enter as punctuation
[01:55] <NikolaiToryzin> bazhang: 'k'
[01:55] <Adrian1pro> k
[01:55] <GraemeLion> what game is it that you're trying to play?
[01:55] <Adrian1pro> Cubeworld, and its the cd, am trying to open it.
[01:56] <bazhang> Adrian1pro, what game, what version of ubuntu, what errors, etc etc
[01:56] <Adrian1pro> Cubeworld, i have linuxlite
[01:56] <bazhang> !find cubeworld
[01:56] <Adrian1pro> where
[01:57] <bazhang> Adrian1pro, is linuxlite some OS based on ubuntu or what
[01:57] <Adrian1pro> idk
[01:57] <GraemeLion> Linuxlite is an ubuntu deriv, cubeworld is a windows only game
[01:57] <Adrian1pro> ohh k
[01:57] <Adrian1pro> will thks
[01:58] <bazhang> Adrian1pro, since linuxlite is not supported here, find their support channel, and #winehq for windows games via wine
[01:59] <tripelb> Hello. How to find Nvidia's driver since nouveau (open source) driver errs in documented bug. NV42GL video card on Dell core2duo tower. Ubuntu 24.04
[01:59] <tripelb> =quadro fx 3450
[01:59] <bazhang> 14.04?
[01:59] <Guest77720> I want to upgrade to Ubuntu 24.04.  What repo is that in?
[02:00] <tripelb> bazhang: right lts
[02:00] <bazhang> 24 wont be until 2024
[02:00] <eddieftw> hey
[02:01] <Guest77720> That's how cutting edge it is.
[02:01] <NikolaiToryzin> You're so unique
[02:01] <eddieftw> I am having a problem. I am only hosting 2 minecraft servers currently and my ram usage is 311354MB out of 766 for some reason
[02:01] <eddieftw> the servers only have 4GB dedicated to it. can someone please help ^^
[02:01] <NikolaiToryzin> eddieftw: swap
[02:01] <NikolaiToryzin> You're swapping so hard it isn't funny
[02:01] <eddieftw> the swap has 4GB dedicated to it.
[02:01] <eddieftw> uhh
[02:02] <NikolaiToryzin> Lmao
[02:02] <eddieftw> I don't understand. xP
[02:02] <GraemeLion> Minecraft servers are hefty beasts.
[02:02] <NikolaiToryzin> Just set limits on the jvm
[02:02] <eddieftw> we need.
[02:02] <eddieftw> we did I mean* java -Xmx4G -Xms4G  is the start
[02:03] <NikolaiToryzin> Holy fuck man don't xms
[02:03] <eddieftw> wat?
[02:03] <eddieftw> could that be why? lol
[02:03] <NikolaiToryzin> That sets out the amount of ram to allocate
[02:04] <eddieftw> so you're saying I should remove that line/
[02:04] <NikolaiToryzin> Java normally allocates memory as it needs it up to xmx
[02:04] <eddieftw> so just like this "screen -S mc java -Xmx4G -XX:MaxPermSize=512M -jar cauldron-server.jar nogui"
[02:04] <NikolaiToryzin> xms basically says start out using 4 gb of ram totally regardless of it we need it our not
[02:04] <NikolaiToryzin> That's a bit more sane
[02:04] <tripelb> Correction:. Where do I find Nvidia's driver since nouveau (open source) driver errs in documented bug. NV42GL video card ( =quadro fx 3450 )on Dell core2duo tower. Ubuntu 14.04 - I have tried to find it. Hints?
[02:05] <eddieftw> okay okay...what do I do to be exact NikolaiToryzin ? xD
[02:05] <NikolaiToryzin> Xms 256 most likely
[02:05] <eddieftw> wat? 256
[02:05] <eddieftw> are you sure? lol
[02:05] <eddieftw> screen -S mc java -Xmx256M -XX:MaxPermSize=512M -jar cauldron-server.jar nogui so like this?
[02:05] <NikolaiToryzin> Just drop xms to something that doesn't try to initially allocate 8 gb of ram all at once on a system with 4
[02:06] <NikolaiToryzin> No, -Xmx4G -Xms256M
[02:06] <NikolaiToryzin> Your max is just the most amount of memory it can use
[02:06] <NikolaiToryzin> Xmx is max
[02:07] <eddieftw> NikolaiToryzin:  okay should I try running the server now?
[02:07] <NikolaiToryzin> Go for it
[02:13] <rpp601> hey guys, sorry for the lame question but... what does this tell you?
[02:14] <rpp601> .... nevermind, i'm a moron
[02:17] <GraemeLion> rpp601, we've all done it.  Some of us in grand style
[02:18] <rpp601> i was about to ask why i couldn't reattach my screen - when i was IN the screen session.
[02:19] <rpp601> it says screen is running but i can't reattach! *facepalm*
[02:20] <eddieftw> NikolaiToryzin:  its onl at 4GB now which is...good :P
[02:21] <NikolaiToryzin> eddieftw: urras joined to help you figure out some issues with it.
[02:21] <eddieftw> ah okay cool. this has happened multiple times to me
[02:21] <eddieftw> I have a feeling it'll spike up as soon as I go back to sleep xD
[02:21] <NikolaiToryzin> Might want to set a lower xmx
[02:22] <eddieftw> it's fine
[02:22] <eddieftw> it was probably just the command line thing
[02:22] <NikolaiToryzin> Sure, just know that swapping is going to hurt like hell and you're running 2 separate jvms
[02:23] <eddieftw> NikolaiToryzin:  are you saying that hosting 2 jvms on the same machine is a bad idea..?
[02:24] <NikolaiToryzin> eddieftw: I'm saying that 4 gb of ram for 2 jvms allowed to use 4 gb of ram each is pretty bad
[02:24] <NikolaiToryzin> On top of that you've got the OSes caching
[02:24] <eddieftw> but oyu told me to use that?
[02:24] <NikolaiToryzin> Elasticsearch recommends using only up to half of your systems ram under 32 gb
[02:25] <NikolaiToryzin> For the heap
[02:25] <NikolaiToryzin> Also jvm based so I reckon it applies
[02:25] <eddieftw> im only using 8GB in total
[02:25] <eddieftw> 4316/27604 being used.
[02:25] <NikolaiToryzin> But you've got 4 gb of ram man
[02:26] <eddieftw> im confused NikolaiToryzin. are you saying I should allow more ram
[02:26] <eddieftw> my dedicated server has 32GB of RAM..
[02:26] <NikolaiToryzin> Wait wait wait
[02:27] <NikolaiToryzin> You have 32 gb of actual physical ram?
[02:27] <eddieftw> yes....
[02:27] <NikolaiToryzin> ...
[02:27] <NikolaiToryzin> You said 4 gb earlier
[02:27] <eddieftw> there is literally 32GB of ram on my server..
[02:28] <eddieftw> no no I said 4GB allocated to my mc servers
[02:28] <eddieftw> unless I typed it wrong lol
[02:28] <NikolaiToryzin> Shit, you're fine then
[02:28] <NikolaiToryzin> Just leave a low xms and don't let the xmx of both get over half your 32
[02:29] <NikolaiToryzin> So 8 gb each if you're only running a minecraft server
[02:29] <eddieftw> mhm
[02:30] <eddieftw> well.
[02:30] <eddieftw> 2 servers. each server has 4GB :P
[02:31] <spagett> Are we talking about how many dedotated WAM it takes to run the serber?
[02:32] <eddieftw> sorry please repeat that question? oh oh DEDICATED RAM!
[02:32] <eddieftw> lol.
[02:32] <NikolaiToryzin> Fucking love that video
[02:32] <eddieftw> so do I ::P
[02:32] <NikolaiToryzin> I... I bet you attended minecon
[02:32] <eddieftw> nope.
[02:32] <NikolaiToryzin> It was a joke
[02:33] <eddieftw> what's a joke?
[02:33] <spagett> Do you guys use any other variants of the GNU/Linux system aside from Ubuntu?
[02:33] <spagett> I'm looking for a new GNU/Linux distribution to test out.
[02:34] <eddieftw> Debian? :P
[02:34] <NikolaiToryzin> spagett: NixOS is great if you want innovation
[02:35] <Vespero> Question: Let's say I have an Ubuntu partition on a damaged harddrive. The superblock is dead and none of the suggested alternative superblocks work. What's the best option for data recovery?
[02:36] <wtfooooo> anyone know why this is happening? http://pastie.org/private/ljol4lqukfou6lakq0a1g i cannot run any iptables commands without this error. it's destroying my environment atm... please help!
[02:36] <Bashing-om> !testdisk | Vespero
[02:37] <Vespero> Bashing-om: Testdisk can't read or write to the drive
[02:37] <Vespero> Bashing-om: It can't find the partition table
[02:37] <kelly69> hello everyone i have an acer aspire laptop and it comes already with windows 8 in 500GB HDD, now i want to purchase a SSD and i will make the main drive and i want to install Ubuntu inside it, the Q is is it possible to dual boot between Ubuntu and windows each system in separate drive ? could you help me please
[02:38] <NikolaiToryzin> You can write a new partion table man
[02:38] <NikolaiToryzin> No idea how to do that on Linux, but if you used OS X I could help!
[02:38] <Vespero> Teskdisk asked for partition locations on the drive when I tried to do that
[02:38] <Vespero> which I don't know exactly
[02:39] <Bashing-om> Vespero: Afraid there is not much hope. but a list of tools : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[02:39] <NikolaiToryzin> You can use test disk to search for them
[02:40] <Vespero> Testdisk can't read the drive
[02:40] <Vespero> I can access another partition on it, though
[02:40] <Vespero> so it's not 100% dead
[02:41] <Bashing-om> Vespero: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/ .
[02:41] <meatmanek> hi all. I'm trying to build a 14.04 USB install drive with a custom preseed file. I've been mostly following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization, but I think the mkisofs command is out of date (for example, it doesn't create a hybrid ISO that works on USB drives, nor does it know about EFI.). Does anybody know where the actual Ubuntu build scripts live for building the install isos?
[02:44] <Vespero> So what, delete the partitions and then try to recover the raw data?
[02:44] <krabador> on pastebinit -h   ---->     -m [permatag] (default: none)      <--- how must i use it ?
[02:45] <BornToBeAlive> Hello :)
[02:46] <Bashing-om> Vespero: Noramlly, what one does if the data is important is to clone the drive and work on the clone; to preclude additional damage to the data .
[02:47] <Vespero> Bashing-om: That's actually a really cool idea. I don't have an extra drive, though
[02:48] <Vespero> Huh, Disk Utility says "Disk is OK, 13 bad sectors"
[02:48] <Vespero> It can see the partition and its size, but not the UUID
[02:49] <Bashing-om> Vespero: Try following the .howtogeek.com guide, see what you can do ... testdisk is the industry stanadard.
[02:49] <tripelb> Correction:. Where do I find Nvidia's driver since nouveau (open source) driver errs in documented bug. NV42GL video card ( =quadro fx 3450 )on Dell core2duo tower. Ubuntu 14.04 - I have tried to find it. Hints? I have tried apt-cache search nvidia to no good. And web pages and a suggested dpkg -l | grep  but when I confessed these commands were new to me I was rebuffed in #nvidia for not knowing my distro. (Ubuntu since 6.04 but never before a graphics car
[02:49] <Vespero> Testdisk can't read the drive though, would deleting the partition help that?
[02:50] <mahasamoot> device-mapper: reload ioctl on  failed: No such file or directory
[02:50] <mahasamoot>  Failed to open temporary keystore device.
[02:50] <mahasamoot>  device-mapper: remove ioctl on temporary-cryptsetup-10457 failed: No such device or address
[02:50] <peelout> tripelb: software sources.
[02:50] <mahasamoot> cryptsetup luksFormat  --verify-passphrase --cipher=serpent-xts-essiv:whirlpool --key-size=512 /dev/sda3
[02:51] <peelout> tripelb: their will be a tab in software sources additional drivers.
[02:54] <Vespero> What exactly would writing 0s to the MBR do?
[02:54] <Bashing-om> tripelb: Per: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/59827/en-us ; that driver is 304 and is available in the software repository .
[02:55] <peelout> Vespero: wipe It. Secure erase. Sorta.
[02:55] <meatmanek> Vespero: makes that drive unbootable,  usually also wipes the partition map.
[02:55] <meatmanek> not really secure
[02:55] <meatmanek> someone clever could still get the files back
[02:55] <Hideme> Is it possible to install a package from 14.10 into 14.04LTS and if so... how?
[02:55] <Vespero> Some places say that that might help me get data off the partitions
[02:56] <Raekwon> does repeatedly writing zeroes decrease the chances of data recovery
[02:56] <Bashing-om> Vespero: What retuens form a liveDVD of terminal commands: sudo fdisk -lu , sudo blkid ?
[02:56] <Vespero> (not being able to boot from the drive is not an issue)
[02:57] <peelout> Raekwon: http://www.dban.org/
[02:58] <Bashing-om> Vespero: IF it is indeed a bad partition table, there are a number of backups one can move into place. What makes you think the partition table is corrupt ?
[02:58] <Raekwon> peelout: thanks
[02:58] <peelout> Raekwon: Try erasing a audio tape. It will still play back but with some static. It needs random data multi writes.
[02:59] <buddd> i used the repo to install postgresql, but I have no idea how to access it, or even where it is now
[03:00] <Vespero> Bashing-om: Uhh, the superblock can't be read, I know that much. It came up somewhere in the course of the past week as I've been trying to mount this thing
[03:02] <peelout> Raekwon: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dban/ Is the real link to the wiping iso
[03:02] <Vespero> Bashing-om: I tried the back-up superblocks from mke2fs, but none of them worked
[03:02] <Bashing-om> Vespero: Spare off the superblock : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177756 .
[03:02] <Raekwon> peelout: perfect analogy, totally get it
[03:03] <Chelsea_Jurgens> i have a question about openvpn client. Anyone familiar with it to help me out? As far as one files are needed in the etc/openvpn folder
[03:04] <Vespero> Bashing-om: Fsck gives me "Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda6 Could this be a zero-length partition?"
[03:04] <peelout> Raekwon: did you get the correct link http://sourceforge.net/projects/dban/
[03:04] <Vespero> I've tried using e2fsck with the alternate block locations
[03:05] <Vespero> e2fsck tells me that the superblock is corrupt
[03:05] <Bashing-om> Vespero: Do not know further, I am out of ideas .
[03:05] <Vespero> Bashing-om: Well, thanks anyway
[03:05] <peelout> Vespero: did you try formating
[03:08] <peelout> Bashing-om: the partition may of been involved in a crash with another OS. A reboot of the other OS May of fixed it
[03:11] <edenist> hey, has anyone else running a Kaveri APU on 14.10 or 14.04 with HWE?
[03:12] <Bashing-om> peelout: Many things one could try . A proper application of testdisk is the more likely to resolve . Or so I think.
[03:13] <peelout> edenist: what's hwe
[03:13] <philwong> hello
[03:14] <philwong> I notice that there is a way to use 14.04 LTS in the KDE environment but it says to install Kubuntu-Desktop in order to do that... will this turn Ubuntu into Kubuntu?
[03:17] <peelout> philwong: if you do that. At the log in screen, you can select the desktop you want to run for your session.
[03:18] <philwong> peelout: ya but if I install the KDE on Ubuntu 14.04 will it turn Ubuntu Into Kubuntu
[03:18] <philwong> according to this
[03:18] <philwong> http://askubuntu.com/questions/452083/how-to-install-kde-along-unity
[03:18] <philwong> it will, right?
[03:20] <MisterMom> philwong, it may change the splash screen but you will be able to use ubuntu desktop or kde desktop your choice at log in screen
[03:20] <philwong> so it will still be "Ubuntu" right?
[03:20] <philwong> not Kubuntu
[03:21] <Guest77720> You can still call it whatever you like
[03:21] <peelout> philwong: not really. Ubuntu runs UNITY desktop. Kubuntu runs KDE. During login you can select unity or kde. Log out now. Above your sign in name click on the little charm. You will only see unity.
[03:22] <philwong> hmmm, but then wouldn't it be the same as just installed Kubuntu then?
[03:23] <peelout> philwong: no.
[03:23] <Bashing-om> peelout: HWE : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack .
[03:25] <philwong> so this just means that its using kubuntu's theme?
[03:25] <ubuntu-mate> good evening ladies and gents
[03:26] <peelout> philwong: just do it. It won't hurt.
[03:26] <Guest77720> g'day mate
[03:26] <peelout> Bashing-om: Thank you.
[03:27] <peelout> philwong: kde is not a theme.
[03:28] <philwong> environment
[03:30] <peelout> philwong: it's a complete desktop environment.
[03:31] <philwong> yes
[03:31] <philwong> I like KDE
[03:31] <philwong> just used to that layout
[03:31] <peelout> philwong: sudu apt-get install kde-base.         Is all it takes.
[03:32] <philwong> ok and after that it will prompt me upon login
[03:32] <philwong> which one to choose
[03:32] <peelout> philwong: sudo.
[03:33] <peelout> philwong: it won't prompt you but at the login screen you can pick the desktop.
[03:33] <philwong> ok
[03:34] <edenist> peelout, HWE is Hardware Enablement stack. It basically upgrades you to the kernel version of the next release
[03:34] <peelout> philwong: if you don't pick one. It will use the last one used.
[03:34] <peelout> edenist: Thank you.
[03:34] <edenist> for example, in 14.04, the release kernel was 3.13. HWE enables me to now install kernel 3.16, which comes with 14.04.2
[03:35] <eazy> i want to install viber and skype on my ubuntu 14.04
[03:35] <eazy> hi
[03:35] <philwong> another question I had, I understand you can run wine which runs windowds apps, but is it possible for those windows apps to run at ubuntu startup? for example I use a desktop reminding application which is windows based
[03:35] <eazy> any one pls
[03:35] <edenist> the reason I ask, is that kernel 3.13 didn't officially support the AMD Kaveri APU's
[03:35] <eazy> exact procedure and commands
[03:35] <edenist> so now that I have upgraded to 3.16, I was expecting the features to now work
[03:35] <edenist> but they dont. Most importantly, CPU temperature monitoring is still broken and does not work
[03:36] <edenist> It was supposedly patched into the 3.14 kernel's k10temp module.... but it doesn't work
[03:36] <edenist> was wondering if anyone else is running a Kaveri APU
[03:38] <peelout> philwong: I know it's possible even for wine apps. KDE has a user hidden startup folder to.
[03:38] <philwong> cool cool
[03:39] <peelout> philwong: the kde startup folder is similar to Windows startup folder.
[03:40] <philwong> ok, will check that out
[03:40] <philwong> thanks
[03:40] <peelout> philwong: unity has startup items list buried in system settings
[03:40] <Fandroid> Alright, attempting to boot a live disk with no luck.
[03:41] <Fandroid> I got into ash by tweaking the boot args.
[03:41] <Fandroid> But I can’t figure out how to pull up a GUI.
[03:43] <Fandroid> The only way I could get it to do anything was to disable acpi. This is because the box I’m working on doesn’t support it. I also removed the first bit of the boot command, leaving only init.
[03:47] <philwong> peelout are you there?
[03:47] <philwong> E: Unable to locate package kde-base
[03:47] <eazy> hi
[03:48] <eazy> any one pls
[03:48] <eazy> exact procedure and commands
[03:48] <eazy> to install skype and viber on ubuntu 14.04
[03:49] <Slade-> so if i wanted to setup an application that could be started or killed (kill -9) by people of a specific group, is it best to just have them sudo to the same account?
[03:53] <XenophonF> ubuntu server 14.10 on a macbookpro5,1 - i cannot get VESA powerdown to work on the text console. the screen saver will kick in, but the backlight won't shut off. i had to use the "nomodeset" kernel option in order to get the console to work in the first place. perhaps VESA powerdown won't work as a side effect?
[03:55] <SchrodingersScat> screensaver?
[03:55] <XenophonF> yeah - on the textmode console, not x
[03:56] <root427> hello
[03:58] <Fandroid> This channel needs more active users.
[03:58] <root427> obviously
[03:59] <root427> so no one is in here or what
[04:00] <Slade-> root427, welcome to irc
[04:00] <Fandroid> Oh, and the message I get when booting normally is “unable to find a medium containing a live file system.”
[04:00] <root427> hello Slade wilson
[04:00] <darktomas> Hey Guys :)
[04:10] <buddd> stupid question, how do I figure out my ip through the terminal
[04:11] <cornelius> buddd: ifconfig -a
[04:13] <edenist> buddd, or ' ip a'
[04:14] <IPJunkie> buddd: or did you mean your external ip?
[04:14] <buddd> I'm not entirely sure, I'm trying to connect the postgresql admin to my local server
[04:15] <L0G0s>  /buffer Mechboards
[04:19] <mekhami> is there an iterm2-like terminal for Ubuntu? I like having splittable terminal windows, can gnome terminal do that?
[04:20] <kailas> Hi guys is there a good document viewer for Ubuntu
[04:21] <Fandroid> LibreOffice or OpenOffice.
[04:21] <jotterbot> buddd: curl ifconfig.me
[04:22] <IPJunkie> Evince is the default pdf reader for vanilla Ubuntu.
[04:23] <IPJunkie> It's literally called "Document Viewer" in the title bar.
[04:24] <kailas> yeah, I have Libre Office and it doesnt quite work as well as I would want
[04:24] <buddd> i used netstat to try to figure out my postgresql server, I found a path called /var/run/postg, which I assume is what I'm looking for. its streeam/listening/ 12442 1269/postgres
[04:24] <buddd> how do I figure out the ip to plug into postgresl admin
[04:24] <GoatMilking> I have a computer with a windows 7 sticker/key etc so a legal copy of windows 7 home premium, a while ago i brought windows 8.1 and installed it and three times its stopped loading and I've had to keep reinstalling it after lots of blue screens etc... it just doesnt like the computer so now I want to go back to windows 7 home prem but i can't find the install dvd, what can I do?
[04:24] <Ben64> GoatMilking: ask ##windows
[04:24] <kailas> I need to write a lot of reports and was hopiing to find something newer than Libre Office
[04:25] <GoatMilking> damnit
[04:25] <GoatMilking> ok
[04:25] <Fandroid> Why would you even ask here?
[04:25] <GoatMilking> i want to use linux full time but my wife gets angry
[04:25] <Fandroid> Dual-boot.
[04:25] <EriC^^> kailas, pdf?
[04:25] <Fandroid> Set Windows to the default.
[04:25] <GoatMilking> i asked because it seemed like the most silly thing to do
[04:25] <buddd> /var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQ.5432
[04:26] <buddd> is there a way to figure out the ip here
[04:26] <kailas> EriC^^: Yeah pdfs
[04:26] <EriC^^> kailas, there's okular
[04:26] <kailas> EriC^^: Does Okular let me write PDFs
[04:26] <EriC^^> i think so, yes
[04:27] <kailas> EriC^^: Ahh nice, I will have to look into that then
[04:27] <kailas> EriC^^: Thanks
[04:27] <EriC^^> kailas, no problem
[04:28] <IPJunkie> kailas: writing PDF's is as easy as using the "export" or "print to file" functions in most Office writers.
[04:29] <kailas> IPJunkie: yeah, its just that i feel Libre doesnt have many features that I would have wanted, also everytime I close the odt file, all the formatting is gone, which is really very inconvinient
[04:31] <IPJunkie> What do you mean the formatting is gone when you close it?  The point of making a PDF is that it will look identical anywhere/way you open it.
[04:32] <buddd> where is the etc folder
[04:32] <buddd> god my questions are newbish
[04:32] <IPJunkie>  /etc
[04:33] <buddd> yeah but how do I get there through the gui
[04:33] <buddd> i need to open a file
[04:34] <buddd> oh nm
[04:34] <kailas> IPJunkie: So when I create the odt file, I am still working on the report. Before exporting it to PDF, I add pictures to the odt file. If I close this ODT file, and then open the ODT again, all images, Bold text everything is gone. PDF is not really the problem. The odt file is.
[04:34] <buddd> man i'm dumb
[04:34] <buddd> btw how do you open simple text files through the terminal
[04:34] <kailas> buddd: gedit file.txt &
[04:35] <kailas> buddd: gedit is the program, the & at the end sends the process to the background, so that you can still typr commands on the terminal.
[04:35] <IPJunkie> unless you only need to read it in which case "cat file.txt."
[04:36] <kailas> IPJunkie: I think I am going to start using LaTeX :D
[04:36] <buddd> it said no protocol specified
[04:36] <buddd> then a bunch of mumbo jumbo
[04:36] <kailas> buddd: what did you type?
[04:36] <buddd> gedit postgresl.conf &
[04:36] <kailas> buddd: also do you have gedit installed???
[04:37] <buddd> don't remember uninstalling it
[04:37] <kailas> buddd: try "cat postgresl.conf" no & here
[04:38] <buddd> that works but just spams over my terminal
[04:38] <meatmanek> so debian uses the 'debian-cd' program
[04:38] <buddd> theres no way to open it in the gui?
[04:38] <meatmanek> to build ISOs
[04:38] <EriC^^> buddd, are you in a gui?
[04:38] <meatmanek> but ubuntu doesn't seem to use debian-cd. Anybody know what the Ubuntu Installer team uses to build the isos?
[04:39] <buddd> so like open it into the gui from the terminal so I can edit it
[04:39] <kailas> buddd: yeah, but you are using a Ubuntu system right? I mean is it a GUI session?
[04:40] <IPJunkie> buddd: doas the file need you to sudo?
[04:40] <EriC^^> buddd, typing gedit in the terminal says no protocol specified?
[04:40] <buddd> on ubuntu gui, but have terminal open
[04:40] <buddd> i could just use the trackpad to navigate the folders, but that's annoying
[04:41] <EriC^^> buddd, are you ssh'd in?
[04:41] <buddd> i am not that sophisticated. I have a laptop with ubuntu in front of me, everything is on this laptop
[04:41] <buddd> some day
[04:42] <EriC^^> buddd, are you running it as your user or root?
[04:42] <kailas> buddd: I use vim, but it does have a curve, also check this out, might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=858266
[04:43] <buddd> eric^^ I don't know?
[04:43] <Ben64> buddd: what file are you trying to edit
[04:44] <EriC^^> buddd, open a new terminal and type gedit
[04:44] <gtsnexp> Ideas on how to rescale stuff to work with 4k monitors?
[04:44] <buddd> this is probably a dumb question, but hwo do you open a new terminal
[04:44] <buddd> i only have one terminal i know of :(
[04:44] <EriC^^> buddd, press ctrl+alt+T
[04:44] <gtsnexp> some apps don't use system fonts for their GUIs
[04:45] <buddd> sweet jesus
[04:45] <buddd> it opens gedit
[04:45] <gtsnexp> Anyone here working with 4k monitors at all?
[04:45] <IPJunkie> buddd: do you remember remapping that shortcut?
[04:45] <EriC^^> ok, if the file you want to edit is in your home dir
[04:46] <EriC^^> just type gedit filename &
[04:46] <EriC^^> or gedit /path/to/filename &
[04:46] <buddd> oh yeah, I tried to make sublime do that too, I didn't think I took out geddit tho
[04:47] <EriC^^> buddd, you should know something, type exit to close the terminal, if you press on the button or use alt+f4 it will close gedit as well
[04:47] <EriC^^> typing exit will leave gedit open
[04:53] <buddd> this shouldn't be this difficult, does anyone know how to figure out the ip of a postgresql server running on a local computer (my laptop)?
[04:53] <kailas> buddd: that should be the ip of your system, you should be able to access it using <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:55] <kailas> buddd: <IP_ADDRESS> is the loopback address and points back to your computer, it is also called/used as localhost. So whether you use localhost, <IP_ADDRESS>, or your computers ip its the same thing. However if you use your systems ip you will have to update it each time your ip changes.
[04:56] <buddd> thanks. its now asking me for a password, but I didn't set up a password for postgresql. it just installed through the repo
[04:57] <VolUTFan> hey ya'll hate to ask this ? but can someone give me a hand with simlinking?  I know how to do it, but for some reason apache2 isn't liking it.  None of the users in the httpd channel are speaking up and wondering if any of you do anything with apache2
[04:57] <VolUTFan> no errors in the apache2 logs btw
[04:57] <CharlotteFields> CUPS or my printer are rejecting jobs, CUPS instantly says job stopped after restarting or trying to get it to print
[04:59] <VolUTFan> something tells me its a group that I am missing in apache2 for the simlink, but not quite sure
[05:00] <caper> Hey guyz i am using the ubuntu 14.04 lts
[05:02] <vpsdeal> hmm
[05:02] <vpsdeal> hi
[05:02] <vpsdeal> http://www.daringhost.com/billing/aff.php?aff=086
[05:02] <EriC^^> hmmm
[05:02] <EriC^^> no
[05:02] <vpsdeal> i had a q
[05:03] <vpsdeal> why is it.. that vps hosters claim
[05:03] <vpsdeal> "ddos protection" when impossible
[05:03] <vpsdeal> i mean
[05:03] <IPJunkie> sales
[05:03] <caper> i have php designer 8 but i got some problem
[05:03] <vpsdeal> http://www.daringhost.com/billing/aff.php?aff=086
[05:03] <vpsdeal> they are gooholds ok
[05:03] <vpsdeal> up to 200 gb/s
[05:03] <caper> while writing my code on php designer it write something P H P
[05:04] <vpsdeal> of packet pokes
[05:04] <caper> why is that can anyone plz
[05:04] <vpsdeal> settings?
[05:05] <caper> Hey anyone who know why this is problem occur
[05:06] <caper> on source code if i write something it's show me like H H H o  d
[05:06] <caper> each font with space
[05:11] <caper> any one who know that how can i solve this problem
[05:15] <caper> Hey any one there
[05:16] <viper05> how do I set ulimit on startup?
[05:24] <tripelb> Ba...   Whooever answered thank you for the driver reference. I finally got there on my computer. Bitbit crashed before it could download it. Right now I am tethering from my phone so it was a 5 hour download. To the library tom9rrow?
[05:25] <Guest45046> print queue says printer config error...I dont know how to trouble shoot it CUPS doesnt say anything
[05:25] <Guest45046> printer is on
[05:25] <Guest45046> has paper
[05:25] <Guest45046> connected, i dont know what else to do
[05:50] <Secret-Fire> I have no audio playback through hdmi can someone help
[05:51] <irr> is your hdmi integrated or a video card? install propietary drivers maybe?
[05:52] <Secret-Fire> irr : it is a video card r9 series
[05:52] <Secret-Fire> irr: i think it has to do with the kernel but I don't know how to update that either
[05:54] <Secret-Fire> irr: it wont let me install those drivers in this kernel
[05:56] <Nothing_Much> I think archive.us.ubuntu.com is down
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Nothing_Much, seems to be
[05:56] <Nothing_Much> well darn
[05:58] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> oh, it's not just me?
[06:00] <Nothing_Much> t0t4ln00bsaUrU5: yeah, I can't install makepasswd
[06:00] <Nothing_Much> or update anything
[06:00] <Nothing_Much> apt upgrade doesn't work
[06:00] <Nothing_Much> either
[06:00] <rww> it's us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:00] <Nothing_Much> rww: yeah my bad
[06:00] <Nothing_Much> oh
[06:00] <Nothing_Much> it seems to be working now
[06:01] <rww> also, that's an alias to multiple servers, and I guess one of them might be/have been wonky for a minute
[06:01] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> ahhh
[06:03] <lesmo> Hi... I have a weird problem. I can't switch to the tty (not sure how to call them) consoles using the CTRL + ALT + F1 or F2 combination.
[06:04] <lesmo> My desktop works fine, but I can't switch to that. Nothing happens. Keyboard is correctly mapped, though.
[06:04] <Squall5668> lesmo: laptop?
[06:04] <lesmo> Yes.
[06:04] <lesmo> Ubuntu 14.10 btw.
[06:06] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> do you have function keys enabled/disabled in bios?
[06:06] <Squall5668> lesmo: perhaps one of those requires a fn key? Can't recall any that would, but...
[06:07] <lesmo> t0t4ln00bsaUrU5, Squall5668 it cannot be enabled/disabled on BIOS. They're working fine for switching brightness, and keyboard backlight.
[06:07] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> boy, sure having a lot of problems fetching from archive tonight
[06:09] <Jerk> go
[06:09] <Jerk> go bill gates!
[06:10] <cfhowlett> Jerk, this is ubuntu support.  ask your questions & stay on topic.
[06:10] <crc32> can't seem to update off us.archive.ubuntu.com.
[06:10] <crc32> Why so slow
[06:10] <crc32> I'm just waiting for headers
[06:10] <cfhowlett> crc32, maintenance
[06:10] <crc32> was this maitenence happening yesterday too?
[06:11] <lesmo-phone> Sorry, I locked my self out and couldn't do gdm restart because CTRL ALT F1 didn't work.
[06:11] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> must be some serious maintenance
[06:12] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> no complaints here though, just gotta refetch a lot
[06:12] <art1101> hiall
[06:12] <art1101> тест
[06:13] <crc32> yea too bad apt-cacher-ng isn't used to cache updates too
[06:13] <Squall5668> lesmo-phone: can you verify the F keys are working fine? For example shift+f2 should open firefox's console
[06:13] <lesmo-phone> I have no idea why, but restarting this machine like 6 times since my problem occurred solved the issue.
[06:13] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> apt-cacher-ng?
[06:13] <Squall5668> lesmo-phone: glad you got it :)
[06:14] <lesmo-phone> Sure, let me try. Everything worked fine except CTRL ALT F1 before now.
[06:16] <Squall5668> lesmo-phone: There is no point now that it works. The keys are obviously working. But now you also can't find out what was wrong
[06:16] <lesmo> Everything's working awesomely. Damn. Sorry guys... apparently this is a lesson for me to never let my laptop run out of battery.
[06:16] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> yeah, suspending to ram on critical doesn't seem to do it for me
[06:17] <lesmo> Funny thing is I was just about to plug it to the wall.
[06:17] <lesmo> The exact moment I plugged the cord to the laptop, it started shutting down.
[06:17] <david___> i'm trying to access my samba share that i created on my ubuntu server that i just setup yesterday. i've been fiddling around with the smb.conf file after googling all around trying to find the answer. i am able to access the share on both my laptop and desktop but i don't have write permissions
[06:18] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> give yourself write permisions my friend
[06:19] <david___> i added 'force user = username' to my smb.conf file but it still doesn't seem to like me
[06:19] <rbck> how do i jail a user?
[06:20] <rbck> i use the guest option?
[06:20] <cfhowlett> rbck, that would be the most assured way ...
[06:24] <david___> i suppose i should clarify. i've chmod-ed 777 the shares and tried to give myself permission to write, but i'm getting the access denied message on my win7 machines
[06:24] <rbck> dont use windows 7
[06:25] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> have you given inheritable permissions
[06:25] <david___> please explain
[06:25] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> and, rbck raises a good point, try and refrain from wingblows
[06:26] <hateball> Also, even if you have 777 in the linux filesystem, correct permissions need to be set up in samba
[06:26] <rbck> it means the permission are handed down the directories path
[06:27] <rbck> recursive permissions?
[06:27] <david___> they're setup for each directory. and yes, i've added the samba user
[06:27] <david___> to give me access in the first place
[06:32] <crc32> Is there a maitenance page for us.archive.ubuntu.org or something?
[06:32] <ya> hello everyone
[06:32] <crc32> Is there a maitenance page for us.archive.ubuntu.com or something?
[06:32] <IPJunkie> hi
[06:32] <crc32> s/org/com
[06:32] <IPJunkie> bye
[06:36] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> wow failing to fetch left and right
[06:42] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> everybody else still having issues?
[06:43] <Squall5668> t0t4ln00bsaUrU5: if you are in that much of a hurry, just switch to another temporarily
[06:46] <rbck> ubuntu is so stable now that it doent need support channel anymore
[06:46] <rww> rbck: cut it out.
[06:48] <newbieAlert> hey hi, how can we make a new notification bar for xfce ??
[06:48] <newbieAlert> that should be floating and can be made transparent ??
[06:49] <pnathan> Hi, is us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[06:49] <crc32> pnathan: Pretty much.
[06:49] <crc32> can't even do apt-get update effectivly
[06:50] <pnathan> Sweet. I'm a SREish person at a company with 100s of servers. Is the admin of the servers providing a status feed?
[06:51] <crc32> thats what I'd like to know. Where is a status page for us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:52] <Squall5668> pnathan: if it's an emergency, you can always change us.archive to something else, temporarily
[06:52] <rww> crc32: there isn't one
[06:53] <pnathan> It isn't an emergency…. yet. But I need to identify if I should make changes now (i.e., introducing instability into the fleet), or if I should wait out the downtime
[06:54] <Squall5668> pnathan: I'd wait it out. Remember, it's a Friday. Not a good day to do anything to a server
[06:54] <pnathan> :D
[06:54] <pnathan> (I also don't want a cascade of executive attention screaming about how Customers Are Affected, etc, etc)
[06:57] <duduili> hi
[06:58] <crc32> so how do we know us.ubuntu.archive.com is in maitenance without a status page?
[06:58] <izbb_>
[06:58] <jpds> crc32: It's several machines.
[06:59] <jpds> crc32: So if there was maintenance, it wouldn't matter.
[06:59] <crc32> jpds: how did  you distinguish that from a general outage?
[06:59] <cfhowlett> unless you have a crying need to update RIGHT THIS INSTANT, wait.  otherwise, switch to a different server and try again.
[06:59] <jpds> crc32: "Can you get to google.com?"
[07:00] <crc32> jpds: Yes googling us.archive.ubunto.com yields really old articles.
[07:00] <pnathan> So "wait" is not actually an actionable approach for a professional unless we have an ETA
[07:00] <pnathan> waiting 8 hours isn't going to be a problem. waiting 80 hours isn't acceptable.
[07:01] <cage> You gus know what the limitations are of google hangouts for business use?
[07:01] <cage> I guess you should pay if you use it atleast?
[07:01] <cfhowlett> cage, ask google?
[07:01] <rww> pnathan: I know this doesn't help now, but for future pondering: if you have 100s of servers running Ubuntu, one of them should probably be running an apt mirror. Fixes this problem, and allows you to do patch management.
[07:01] <jpds> pnathan / crc32: I can get to us.archive.u.c just fine.
[07:02] <crc32> jpds: did it resolve to 91.189.91.*?
[07:02] <jpds> crc32: Yes.
[07:03] <pnathan> rww: yeah, I stuffed it into the backlog. I quite agree.
[07:03] <jpds> pnathan / crc32: And what rww said, you have a fleet of maschinen, you should either be using 1) squid-deb-proxy 2) a mirror.
[07:04] <crc32> jpds: Yea using apt-cacher-ng was useless for "apt-get update"
[07:04] <jpds> crc32: Yes, apt-cacher-ng is useless.
[07:04] <jpds> crc32: squid-deb-proxy is thousands of times better.
[07:06] <crc32> I take it us.archive.ubuntu.com has a high failure rate.
[07:06] <mrhellish> :)
[07:06] <jpds> crc32: Nope.
[07:06] <crc32> just for the last 48 hours I guess
[07:06] <jpds> pnathan / crc32: There's been a security update and everyone's trying to get to security.u.c.
[07:06] <jpds> crc32: It usually dies down after a few hours as the updates moves to the mirrors.
[07:09] <pnathan> jpds: thanks for the root cause. I'll be looking into the corp mirroring solution soon. :)
[07:10] <jpds> pnathan: There's a package called ubumirror that has scripts in it.
[07:20] <omosoj> how do i change permissions to -rw-r-----
[07:21] <ki7mt> omosoj, Nice tutorial here: http://linuxcommand.org/lts0070.php
[07:22] <omosoj> so there are 3 sets of permissions?
[07:23] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> derp derp
[07:23] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> wow
[07:24] <ki7mt> omosoj, your looking for chmod 640 ./<some-file> I believe. Test it on a temp file to be sure
[07:24] <cage> cfhowlett I did, but it didn't really say what you get in the "free version"
[07:24] <cage> But I guess our company has some deal already
[07:25] <cage> Does anyone happen to know how secure "paid" hangouts is?
[07:25] <omosoj> 664
[07:26] <omosoj> thanks for the help, ki7mt
[07:26] <ki7mt> omosoj, so: cd ~ ; touch temp.txt ; chmod 640 ./temp.txt ; ls -al ./temp.txt .. should yeild: -rw-r-----
[07:38] <said_> wi-fi ne marche pas qq
[07:39] <cfhowlett> !fr | said_,
[07:40] <Secret-Fire> Hello, I have a radeon gpu that is connected to my monitor via hdmi and there is no sound after a fresh install, can someone please help?
[07:40] <nextech> Secret fire install software from vcard manufacturer
[07:44] <Guest72391> anybody know what(if there is) the command for installing tor browser via terminal?
[07:45] <cfhowlett> Guest72391, https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en
[07:46] <Guest72391> so i have to add a respisotory right? then run sudo apt-get?
[07:46] <nextech> yes
[07:47] <Secret-Fire> nextech : I tried installing the driver and i get this error http://pastebin.com/mUfqeE6W
[07:50] <poorva> Hello I am new to xchat
[07:51] <nextech> Welcome
[07:51] <nextech> Anything
[07:52] <Secret-Fire> nextech : can you help me
[07:52] <ki7mt> Secret-Fire, at starting point would be to apt-cache search linux-headers .. but I dont think Kali is supported here.
[07:52] <cfhowlett> Secret-Fire, kali is not supported here.  sorry.
[07:53] <LoveyouNigga> hello all
[07:53] <LoveyouNigga> :)
[07:53] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> wow, totally wrong channel dude, pm me, i "pen-test" too when I'm not on my U.E.kubuntu
[07:53] <LoveyouNigga> has anyone worked with wpa2 encryption before?
[08:01] <tripelb> Emergency! I was just moving files. They vanished 14.04 - dragging directory and where did it go? Huge too. Not in trash  was on USB drive. Just happened ls -RL | grep dirname did not show it. - and yes i did cd into that drive
[08:03] <somsip> tripelb: find -type d -name 'dirname' / (or change / for a lower path for a shorter search)
[08:06] <tripelb> Somsip how could this happen. I saw this with only one small dir and ignored it as in must be there but I didnt remember the name of it. I moved many and they all worked. But this was a major thing.
[08:06] <cfhowlett> tripelb, 20:20 hindsight  cp files, verify target in place then delete original :)
[08:07] <tripelb> That might have happened before with all the music and movies a few I end gave me. Like a dream.
[08:09] <tripelb> Boy that is hindsight. But the files must be there I have done nothing else but write an empty dirname to remind me.
[08:09] <tripelb> Not in the trash.let me try the suggestion.
[08:09] <cfhowlett> tripelb, any chance the mv is still running in the background somewhere?
[08:09] <tripelb> I really hate the way unity changes focus to the target directory.
[08:11] <tripelb> Everything else was fast.that is why I was doing all on the same uab drive so no actual writes would be needed..
[08:12] <tripelb> cfhowlett: ^^^^
[08:12] <bekks> mv needs actual writes, since the inodes have to be modified.
[08:12] <tripelb> When you do a write there could be a 2indow of process behind.
[08:13] <cfhowlett> tripelb, I've learned to use the -verbose option so I can see things.  see ps -x    and look mv processes
[08:15] <tripelb> What does a USB drive use for trash? A hidden file?
[08:15] <cfhowlett> tripelb, yes, hidden
[08:15] <tripelb> ^^^^ fertile idea
[08:15] <somsip> tripelb: what filesystem?
[08:16] <tripelb> What is not t called. How to reveal hidden files?
[08:16] <ki7mt> Wow, pbuilder-dist base updates from the archive are seriously slow this evening. Anyone else seeing slow responses from us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[08:16] <fels> tripelb, ctrl+ H
[08:17] <fels> Anyone can help me with printer sharing ?
[08:17] <fels> Samba and cups are only options ?
[08:19] <tripelb> fels: all the .trash-1000 shoedbin trash already. Nothing new. How can things vanish?
[08:19] <Ben64> they can't
[08:19] <fels> they really cant
[08:21] <tripelb> This was enormous. Full of movies. I wanted to put it in the main (Root?)directory of the drive
[08:25] <escorpion> Hola
[08:25] <cfhowlett> !es | escorpion
[08:26] <escorpion> Quisiera saber, que vlc he de descargar, para ubuntu o debian gnu. yo tengo el xubuntu. gracias
[08:26] <tripelb> Feels ben64 what is the L's command to search all volumes and subdirectories. Does it exist?
[08:27] <tripelb> I made a folder and have been trying to get it Ro vanish and I can't get it to.
[08:27] <somsip> tripelb: use find. Like my very first answer to you
[08:28] <elementary> Hello. I'm having issues with my sound. No sound.
[08:31] <maum> how can I exclude permission denied when find command?
[08:31] <cfhowlett> !sound | elementalest
[08:31] <somsip> maum: run it under a user that has +x permission on the directory that is being denied. 'sudo find ... ' will usually get round this
[08:31] <cfhowlett> elementalest, sorry elementalest ^^^
[08:32] <maum> ok
[08:34] <escorpion> Hola, Tengo instalado xubuntu, y quiero descargar el vlc video, cual descargo para ubuntu o debian gnu. gracias
[08:35] <bazhang> elementary, is this ubuntu? what version; is anything muted in alsmixer, what is pcm set to, what do pavucontrol/padevchooser tell you
[08:35] <Squall5668> !es | escorpion
[08:35] <cfhowlett> escorpion, no.  go to #ubuntu-es
[08:35] <bazhang> !info papfrefs | elementary
[08:35] <bazhang> oops
[08:36] <bazhang> paprefs
[08:36] <bazhang> !info paprefs
[08:36] <bazhang> elementary, ^
[08:36] <escorpion> gracias
[08:36] <Mr_T-RSA> hello, running 14.04 here. I would like to know how to spoof my mac.  For some reason my router stil detects my hardware mac
[08:37] <somsip> Mr_T-RSA: lots of links and answers here http://askubuntu.com/questions/439459/change-mac-address-via-terminal
[08:38] <Mr_T-RSA> thankyou. ill have a look at that link.  tried everything but ill try again :)
[08:44] <tripelbier> test
[08:45] <somsip> !test | tripelb
[08:45] <somsip> !test | tripelbier
[08:46] <elementary> bazhang, I'm on elementary. As I understand it, it is based on ubuntu. So, can I still receive help here?
[08:47] <cfhowlett> elementary, no.   sorry, ubuntu support only
[08:47] <cfhowlett> !flavors | elementalest
[08:47] <bazhang> elementary, you should ask them, I have already given you many starter tips
[08:47] <tripelbier> fels ben64 I am on the computer. somsip I am on the computer now. would you mind repeating your find command for me. I would appreciate it.
[08:47] <tripelbier> The phone is so flakey that the stuff vanishes and I have to copy it down on paper. but now I am doing wifi from thephone.
[08:47] <elementary> okay. thank you.
[08:47] <bazhang> welcome
[08:48] <tripelbier> elementary is interesting me. come talk to me on #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:48] <root____1> hello
[08:49] <fels> tripelbier CTRL + H
[08:49] <tripelbier> elementary /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:49] <user1> how do i install windows on ubuntu machine? don't want to risk wiping it, so do i need to create a partition ahead of time?
[08:50] <fels> user1, every1 would say that better install windows first, then near it u install buntu
[08:50] <tripelbier> user1 windows must be done BEFORE linux
[08:50] <tripelbier> afaik
[08:50] <cfhowlett> user1, yes, that would be best.  and after you install windows, you will need to reinstall grub to get your ubuntu back  OR
[08:51] <cfhowlett> user1, install virtualbox to ubuntu.  put windows in a virtualbox
[08:51] <user1> cfhowlett: isn't that really laggy?
[08:51] <cfhowlett> user1, depends on your hardware.
[08:51] <user1> cfhowlett: thinkpad x240, so yeah...
[08:52] <cfhowlett> user1, yeah, perhaps not.  :)
[08:52] <user1> surely it's possible, like it is with mac OSX
[08:53] <cfhowlett> user1, go ahead and install windows, then re-install grub.
[08:53] <tripelbier> fels control H is for hidden files. that I didnt forget. but I had asked for an ls command that would let me search on all partitions of all mounted volumes. ... I think he gave me a find command.
[08:55] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> I've actually run virtual machines inside virtual machines inside virtual machines
[08:55] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> just to see if it could be done
[08:55] <tripelbier> -verbose option so I can see things. see ps-x and look mv processes (from sfhowlett to me)
[08:55] <tripelbier> somsip asked me "what filesystem" ubuntu 14.04 -- is that the answer?
[08:55] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> it felt like inception
[08:56] <somsip> tripelbier: only when you were asking where trash got stored
[08:56] <White_Cat> hello EriC^^, around?
[08:57] <tripelbier> from somsip long ago. find -type d-name 'dirname' / (or change / for a lower path for a shorter search
[08:57] <rbck> http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Attaque_Man_In_The_Middle.jpg  The MEN in the middle is a penguin?!
[08:57] <somsip> tripelbier: yes, except for the missing space after d in "-type d -name'
[09:00] <hillary> I got this error "sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set" when trying to run updates
[09:00] <tripelbier> is this correct? find -tupe d -name ReceivedTreasures /
[09:00] <tripelbier> is this now correct? find -type d -name ReceivedTreasures /
[09:00] <tripelbier> somsip that didnt work. it said "paths must preceed expression"
[09:01] <tripelbier> I am devastated.
[09:01] <hillary> It came about when i was installing netbeans into usr/local folder
[09:01] <hillary> tried changing ownership of usr in order to allow writing into it
[09:02] <Ben64> hillary: what is the output of this command.... "ls -ln /usr/bin/sudo"
[09:02] <hillary> where could i have messed up?
[09:02] <Ben64> hillary: changing the ownership of /usr is a terrrrrrrrrrrrible idea
[09:02] <hillary> Ben64 -rwxr-xr-x 1 1000 0 156708 Feb 10  2014 /usr/bin/sudo
[09:02] <somsip> tripelbier: yeah -I often forget that. find / -type d -name 'dirname'
[09:03] <Ben64> hillary: netbeans is in the ubuntu repository, why install it manually? and looks like you did a recursive chown, congratulations, you broke your system
[09:03] <wolter> Would it be possible to rebuild dpkg databases according to the contents in my root partition, in some way?
[09:03] <hillary> Ben64 ops!
[09:04] <hillary> Ben64 so i do reinstallation?
[09:04] <somsip> !netbeans
[09:04] <somsip> !info netbeans
[09:04] <morizaki> hi guys,someone can help me to create an account in pidgin(XMPP)? pvt me
[09:05] <Squall5668> hillary: it might be possible to salvage this. Try to find the history of your chmod. Was it recursive?
[09:05] <tripelbier> somsip, mothing. but now Imust sleep. so sad. there is some kind of derp that made this happen.
[09:05] <tripelbier> nn
[09:06] <hillary> Squall5668 procedure?
[09:06] <Ben64> hillary: that would be easiest. things to keep in mind --- (1.) install things from the repository, manually installing should be your very last option (2.) don't change permissions of system files/folders (3.) be very careful with sudo, recursive commands, and the combination of the two
[09:07] <hillary> Ben64 Noted
[09:07] <Squall5668> type 'history' and look for your chmod command. Paste it here
[09:09] <hillary> Squall5668 sudo chown -R hillary /usr
[09:09] <geirha> ouch
[09:09] <Squall5668> hillary: heh.... sorry
[09:12] <zetheroo> trying to mount an nfs share and am getting this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10445042/
[09:12] <zetheroo> how do I check if statd is running or not ... ?
[09:13] <wolter> Can somebody with a fresh utopic install pastebin his $(dpkg --get-selections) ?
[09:14] <zetheroo> ok, I found out that rpcbind was not started, and is not being started automatically on boot
[09:15] <zetheroo> how do I get it to autostart with boot?
[09:18] <tripelbier> somsip, mothing. but now Imust sleep. so sad. there is some kind of derp that made this happen.there is a directory that is over 500GB per properties. and yet, the entire drive is 412GB used. WOT?
[09:18] <leeyaa> hello
[09:18] <tripelbier> sorry
[09:18] <somsip> tripelbier: use du -h to try to see where it has gone
[09:18] <somsip> tripelbier: sorry - df -h
[09:18] <leeyaa> i need to manually upgrade logrotate package on several legacy servers. do you think it is a bad idea or it is a matter of rebuilding logrotate package for those systems ?
[09:19] <avenger> How do i go to the settings of spiral tool?
[09:19] <leeyaa> i am forced to keep those servers for legacy support of our app
[09:19] <prasad> hi
[09:20] <somsip> leeyaa: it's a slippery slope, for sure
[09:20] <leeyaa> somsip: yes but if done properly will safe me tons of work
[09:20] <Squall5668> leeyaa: check backports. Manual install is not a very good idea, but it 'depends'
[09:21] <somsip> leeyaa: and later when something else needs 'fixing' the client will want the legacy OS updating again, and you will never be able to implement a real solution - upgrade
[09:21] <avenger> How do I open the settings of spiral tool?
[09:21] <leeyaa> somsip: its only logrotate
[09:21] <leeyaa> nothing else will need to be updated there
[09:21] <somsip> leeyaa: like I said, slippery slope. But your system, your call
[09:22] <leeyaa> Squall5668: its dapper, not sure if i will find backports
[09:23] <somsip> !info 6.06
[09:24] <oier> Hello all
[09:24] <Ben64> leeyaa: you really really should upgrade... 6 years of no support, no updates
[09:24] <oier> Could anyone help me getting java working with firefox?
[09:24] <leeyaa> Ben64: i already know that and we have already upgraded
[09:25] <leeyaa> however i do need to keep some servers legacy
[09:25] <oier> I've tried every litttle thing
[09:25] <Ben64> leeyaa: impossible
[09:25] <somsip> leeyaa: customer-facing app?
[09:25] <leeyaa> somsip: yes. a few clusters are forced to be kept at legacy.
[09:25] <Ben64> nobody "needs" to be running an OS without support
[09:25] <oier> and don't know what else I can do
[09:26] <somsip> leeyaa: what's the URL for the app?
[09:26] <Ben64> oier: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java has the instructions you need
[09:26] <leeyaa> somsip: weird question ;p
[09:26] <somsip> leeyaa: yeah..you know it's not safe :)
[09:27] <cfhowlett> "what could go wrong?"
[09:27] <oier> thanks Ben64 but I've already tried what is explained in that site
[09:27] <leeyaa> somsip: which does not answer my question what is the best way to upgrade just logrotate. but i guess ill have to figure it out.
[09:28] <Ben64> oier: and what was the result
[09:28] <Ben64> leeyaa: you're missing the important thing... its not safe to be running something for 6 years without bug fixes
[09:28] <oier> I get the following error when testing java:
[09:28] <Squall5668> leeyaa: the best way would have been an existing backport. There is no good way after that. Anything else is an unstable hackjob. Sorry mate
[09:28] <t0t4ln00bsaUrU5> well it's been an eventful night guys, see yall tomorrow
[09:28] <leeyaa> Ben64: this is not my decision.
[09:29] <somsip> leeyaa: this is OT, but your bosses/client really needs to understand that stuff like this happens, and they're asking for it is.gd/OrUrHC
[09:29] <leeyaa> Squall5668: where can i view the list of such backports
[09:29] <leeyaa> i dont need latest logrotate
[09:29] <oier> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/local/java/jre1.7.0_55/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so [/usr/local/java/jre1.7.0_55/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32]
[09:29] <Ben64> leeyaa: take initiative to fix this problem then
[09:29] <somsip> http://is.gd/OrUrHC anyway - OT so EOT for me
[09:29] <leeyaa> Squall5668: if done it loads of times on legacy centos servers, just not comfortable with ubuntu yet
[09:30] <leeyaa> is there a list for such backports ?
[09:30] <oier> looks like my browser expects a 64 bit jvm but I want the 32 bit version up and running
[09:30] <Ben64> leeyaa: good luck containing that mess when it explodes, you're not going to get support here for an EOL system
[09:30] <leeyaa> Ben64: i am aware
[09:30] <Ben64> leeyaa: you really don't seem concerned at all
[09:31] <oier> right now I think I have a proper installation of java, a 32 bit version actually, the <IP_ADDRESS> (32 bit)
[09:32] <leeyaa> Ben64: i do. i have to find a way to do something and think out of the box. after that eol will be forgotten by me and let to rot.
[09:32] <guest-te3Z4S> hey there
[09:32] <Ben64> oier: you probably want your browser and your java plugin to match architectures
[09:34] <oier> Ben64: well, actually not. I have a 64 bit system (ubuntu) but I want and need a 32 bit jvm
[09:34] <Ben64> oier: then install 32bit firefox, might work
[09:34] <oier> Ben64: actually some months ago it worked, but for some reason it doesn't any more
[09:35] <oier> Ben64: you mean Ubuntu's default repository installs a 64 bit version of firefox?
[09:35] <Ben64> if you're on 64bit, everything you install is 64bit
[09:35] <htqp> oier: why do you think you need 32 bit java?
[09:36] <Dazax> Hello, the module acpi_memhotplug was deleted from ubuntu 14.04 ?
[09:37] <oier> htqp: because it is set as a compatibility requirement by some applet developers
[09:37] <feodoran> hi, is it save to upgrade my 14.04 kernel to the 14.04.2 one (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack)? or do I have to worry about technical issues?
[09:37] <OpenTokix> oier: If your java program need 32 bit java, dont runt hat program. You dont need that kind of negativity in your life.
[09:37] <OpenTokix> oier: Them developers are probably wrong, idiots or both.
[09:37] <Ben64> yeah, the way java works it shouldn't matter
[09:37] <htqp> or they want you to run JNI, which means more permissions
[09:38] <oier> OpenTokix: hahahaha. you might be right, but I need to run that kind'a applet
[09:38] <htqp> oier: google for debootstrap, create a 32-bit chroot and run firefox with DISPLAY=:0 firefox
[09:39] <oier> htqp: thanks! I'll try that right now
[09:39] <OpenTokix> oier: it ddid not work on 64 bit java?
[09:39] <htqp> also make sure you have the same uid in the chroot as outer (otherwise X is going to complain, and progbably you do not want to mess with the x host)
[09:40] <oier> OpenTokix: yeah, the applet I'm talking about didn't work with the 64 bit version of java
[09:40] <oier> htqp: thanks, I'll try so
[09:41] <OpenTokix> oier: Its not an issue with java version instead? - ie you tried to run it on java 8, and the software only works on 6 (like many do)
[09:42] <oier> OpenTokix: no, I don't think so. I have already checked my java version, paths, told ubuntu about it etc.
[09:43] <OpenTokix> oier: What version are you running. - ie what does java -version say
[09:43] <oier> OpenTokix: java version "1.7.0_55"
[09:43] <oier> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_55-b13)
[09:43] <oier> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 24.55-b03, mixed mode)
[09:44] <OpenTokix> oier: And you are 100% sure the program run on java 7?
[09:46] <oier> OpenTokix: it's not just that I don't get it working with a specific applet, it's rather that I don't get it working on my firefox browser. I tried testing it on java.com 's default java test site
[09:47] <OpenTokix> oier: oh, you mean the java plugin
[09:47] <oier> plus I followed all the troubleshooting guide shown on java.com 's site
[09:47] <htqp> yea, you want icedtea whicih is in a separate package than the jre
[09:47] <oier> OpenTokix: yeah right
[09:48] <oier> htqp: If I'm right, I think I want oracle java's plugin instead of icedtea's
[09:49] <htqp> why would you want it?
[09:49] <OpenTokix> oier: you need the plugin for your webbrowser, - I assume you have the firefox fromrepos?
[09:49] <oier> OpenTokix: yes I do. And I have already set the symbolic links
[09:50] <oier> OpenTokix: to the right paths, I asure
[09:50] <OpenTokix> oier: What links?
[09:50] <OpenTokix> oier: The thing is, you need the correct java plugin for your browser.
[09:50] <oier> libnpjp2.so
[09:50] <oier> OpenTokix: I guess so
[09:51] <OpenTokix> oier: file /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[09:51] <OpenTokix> oier: will show your what arch your browser is
[09:51] <oier> OpenTokix: /usr/lib/firefox/firefox: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=0xbdd76582350cbbe4ab700295e822276be070ab48, stripped
[09:51] <OpenTokix> oier: then you need a 64 bit java plugin
[09:52] <oier> OpenTokix: really? ooohhh :P
[09:52] <OpenTokix> oier: yes
[09:52] <oier> OpenTokix: :(
[09:52] <oier> OpenTokix: Ok I see
[09:53] <OpenTokix> oier: Why? - just get the 64 bit plugin
[09:53] <oier> thank you guys. I'll set a 64 bit version and see if it works
[09:53] <OpenTokix> oier: it will, unless its ipmi/perc/ilo
[09:53] <oier> OpenTokix: thanks. Then I'll do that
[09:53] <Arlene> Hi i was asked What is the process that runs the mouse on Linux and i was thinking of X
[09:54] <Arlene> is it correct?
[09:54] <OpenTokix> Arlene: probably, yes
[09:54] <Arlene> OpenTokix: can you give me your reason please
[09:55] <htqp> Arlene: what is the real problem? what are you trying to achieve?
[09:55] <OpenTokix> Arlene: You can have mouse enabled in a text console to, but it is uncommon - if you havent messed around and running like more or less a standard graphical user interface, xorg will handle your mouse.
[09:57] <Arlene> htqp: im actually preparing for a linux exam and i saw this question
[10:22] <oier> I'm back here
[10:23] <oier> I solved my java issue in the sense that now I get it working on firefox
[10:23] <OpenTokix> Arlene: What is the exact question?
[10:23] <OpenTokix> oier: Awesome
[10:23] <xanth> So I just switched over from Windows to Ubuntu and I'm having a hard time figuring out how to install programs. I'm looking into learning perl so I want to download Padre but can't figure it out hahaha.
[10:24] <OpenTokix> xanth: What is Padre?
[10:24] <xanth> a text editor/IDE as I understand it.
[10:24] <oier> but now I get an error with an applet...
[10:24] <OpenTokix> xanth: how is that related to perl?
[10:24] <OpenTokix> oier: Wich one?
[10:25] <OpenTokix> xanth: sudo apt-get install padre
[10:25] <oier> OpenTokix: [27/02/2015 11:20:26] [         com.openlandsw.dsp.base.utils.g] [                           run] [ERR] ERROR cargando la librería dinámica '/home/oier/dsiglibs/libNss4JavaLinux_1425032425813.so' (error loading dynamic library)
[10:25] <OpenTokix> xanth: I would suggest a more general editor - personally
[10:26] <OpenTokix> oier: eeik... - ok - You are missing "some library"
[10:26] <xanth> I'm open to all suggestions. I'm new to programming so I'm just trying to stay afloat y'know?
[10:26] <xanth> What would you suggest?
[10:27] <oier> OpenTokix: I also get this message: [27/02/2015 11:20:26] [com.openlandsw.ds...dule.applet.crypto.a] [                             a] [ERR] Problema al cargar la librería: /home/oier/dsiglibs/libNss4JavaLinux_1425032425813.so, Error: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /home/oier/dsiglibs/libNss4JavaLinux_1425032425813.so: /home/oier/dsiglibs/libNss4JavaLinux_1425032425813.so: wrong ELF class:...
[10:27] <oier> ...ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause: architecture word width mismatch)
[10:27] <OpenTokix> xanth: There is many editors out there
[10:27] <OpenTokix> oier:  wrong ELF
[10:27] <OpenTokix>                  class:...
[10:28] <oier> OpenTokix: I just loaded the applet I'm supposed to run and it crashed returning me a message of uncompatibility with your system or browser... :P
[10:28] <OpenTokix> oier: nice
[10:29] <oier> OpenTokix: is there anything I can do to fix this? Should I maybe try to run a 32 bit version of the jvm?
[10:29] <OpenTokix> oier: what applet is it? Some inhouse thing?
[10:29] <OpenTokix> oier: If its an applet in your browser, you need a 32 bit browser + plugin - jvm can handle whatever.
[10:29] <oier> OpenTokix: yes, it's a thing of the Goverment of Navarre
[10:30] <OpenTokix> oier: http://sitevale.blogspot.se/p/estas-son-mis-anotaciones-sobre-como-he.html <-- Maybe this will help you, I dont understand the language
[10:30] <oier> OpenTokix: aha, I see. So it is related to the architecture
[10:30] <OpenTokix> oier: it is related to your java plugin arch
[10:30] <mun> hi
[10:31] <OpenTokix> oier: Your java plugin launches a java program in your browser. - However, it will also download libary infrasturcture for that program. - And if those libraries is 32 bit, your other stuff also needs to be 32 bit.
[10:31] <oier> OpenTokix: thanks again
[10:31] <mun> i'm trying to run a python command in a screen without attaching to it. i'm using screen -d -m "python scrtip.py 123" but i can't resume the screen. perhaps it doesn't get created?
[10:32] <OpenTokix> oier: There is some java plugin apps I just gave up - only way to get em to run was in a windows vm, with IE and oracle java 6
[10:32] <OpenTokix> oier: took _AWHILE_ to get to work
[10:33] <oier> OpenTokix: I find this so crazy... I don't know if I'll succeed with this holy thing. Actually I also have a smartcard reader and all drivers are configured for my 64 bit system so my guess is it will be really tricky
[10:34] <oier> OpenTokix: plus, get it working with 32 bit firefox, will be a pain in the hole
[10:34] <OpenTokix> oier: Good thing is you can have both 32 bit and 64 bit programs running in your ubuntu. - Its not as elegant, but it works.
[10:34] <oier> OpenTokix: I tried some months ago to do such thing and I couldn't, but I'm decided to try it again
[10:35] <OpenTokix> oier: Also there is the option of a virtual machine with 32 bit os, or something else
[10:35] <chulis> i use lubuntu and can not see sound icon on my panel
[10:35] <Squall5668> mun: perhaps it completed it's process?
[10:36] <chulis> how can i see my soind icon?
[10:36] <mun> Squall5668: hmm can't be. if i do it inside of a screen, it takes hours to complete
[10:36] <g105b> Is it safe to change a user's home directory permissions to drwxr-x--- , so 'other' can't see anything?
[10:36] <oier> OpenTokix: yeah... I know, but I'm not in the mood for doing that right now... :(
[10:36] <EriC^^> g105b, yes if you dont need anybody else to access something
[10:36] <chulis> its installed in miniapplets but cant see on panel
[10:37] <g105b> EriC^^: I just wondered if that was a good idea, whether any OS processes would barf.
[10:37] <EriC^^> nope
[10:37] <mun> Squall5668: screen -dm "python -c \"print 'test'\"" doesn't show 'test'
[10:38] <OpenTokix> oier: I dont think I have ever been in the mood to figure out java-issues =)
[10:38] <oier> OpenTokix: I see. Thanks anyway guy for your help and comments
[10:39] <mun> Squall5668: oh, if i drop -dm, i get "python script.py..." no such file or dir
[10:39] <Squall5668> mun: haha
[10:39] <mun> umm
[10:40] <mun> isn't screen "python script.py" supposed to get the screen launch python script.py?
[10:40] <mun> without '-dm' that is
[10:41] <EriC^^> mun, try screen -d -m <command>
[10:41] <EriC^^> not -dm
[10:41] <EriC^^> oh, nevermind
[10:41] <mun> still no screen
[10:41] <EriC^^> how do you know
[10:41] <mun> EriC^^: can't screen -r
[10:41] <EriC^^> type screen -list
[10:41] <mun> no sockets found
[10:41] <k1l_> is screen -ls shwoing it?
[10:42] <mun> nope
[10:42] <k1l_> what is when you create a screen with "screen -S test"
[10:42] <EriC^^> mun, did you fix the file location?
[10:42] <tos-1> mun: Don't quote: screen python blah.py
[10:42] <mun> EriC^^: the file has always been right
[10:42] <mun> ah
[10:43] <mun> without quotes.. yes, i attach and the command is properly run
[10:43] <mun> argh!
[10:43] <mun> screen -dm python ...
[10:43] <mun> damn quotes
[10:43] <EriC^^> is it working?
[10:43] <Squall5668> mun: so, 'python scriptname' works but 'screen "python scriptname"' doesnt?
[10:43] <mun> yes, without the quotes
[10:44] <mun> wel
[10:44] <mun> well
[10:44] <mun> screen python script works, screen -dm python script also works
[10:44] <mun> but not screen "python script"
[10:44] <mun> or screen -dm "python script"
[10:45] <mun> my screen is failyr old
[10:45] <mun> v4
[10:45] <mun> not sure if that makes a difference
[10:45] <k1l_> what ubuntu is that?
[10:45] <mun> i don't know why it's so old
[10:45] <mun> i'll check
[10:46] <k1l_> "lsb_release -d"
[10:46] <mun> must be something i did
[10:55] <RaiseYourKappa> Hi
[10:55] <weezybusy> Hi
[10:55] <RaiseYourKappa> Where you from?
[10:55] <schueler_> hi
[10:57] <MrPassiLpHD> hi
[10:57] <RaiseYourKappa> Dorime
[10:57] <RaiseYourKappa> Interimo adapare
[10:57] <RaiseYourKappa> Dorime
[10:57] <RaiseYourKappa> Ameno Ameno
[10:57] <RaiseYourKappa> Latire
[10:57] <RaiseYourKappa> Latiremo
[11:05] <senaps> what was the terminal's Editor name?
[11:06] <k1l_> senaps: nano is a basic one
[11:06] <senaps> huh thanks.... do we have more professional ones?
[11:07] <k1l_> senaps: its getting easier if you say what you want and not let others guess what you want :)
[11:08] <senaps> kill_: i use sublime text but wanted to check out some other things:) some thing's from terminal...
[11:09] <senaps> i just want to know the options! :)
[11:09] <Squall5668> senaps: there is vim or emacs, but they are not easy to use. If you do learn one of them though, there is no coming back
[11:11] <senaps> Squall5668:thanks man.....
[11:14] <blinky_ghost>  /j #theforeman
[11:14] <blinky_ghost>  /j #theforeman
[11:17] <fantafe> hi
[11:17] <fantafe> anyone here familiar with bond interfaces?
[11:19] <fantafe> no one alive?
[11:21] <hateball> fantafe: Usually it helps asking the real question rather than taking polls
[11:21] <fantafe> hateball: sorry my first time here ok i will get to the point
[11:22] <hateball> fantafe: No need to be sorry, I'm just saying :)
[11:24] <fantafe> I want to bond two interfaces each one of them is connected to an ISP router. my question is, does the bond0 interface has to have an IP address within the same subnet of the interfaces?
[11:26] <game0> heyo guys, I have installed ubuntu server and I have set the hostname but there's a problem in setting the DNS
[11:26] <game0> can someone help in setting the DNS?
[11:27] <fantafe> game0: u want to make the new installed server a DNS server?
[11:27] <game0> just for local
[11:27] <game0> just to be able to use it inside my small network
[11:28] <game0> I didn't make a static DNS
[11:28] <caper> s
[11:28] <bekks> game0: Do you want to setup your own DNS server at home?
[11:28] <game0> yes
[11:29] <game0> this is my first time in doing this
[11:29] <fantafe> game0: install bind DNS Server
[11:29] <linuxthefish> hi, why was unity 2d removed?
[11:30] <fantafe> game0: sudo apt-get install bind9
[11:30] <k1l_> linuxthefish: iirc was the gnome-base-code removed from gnome.
[11:31] <game0> OK, done
[11:32] <game0> fantafe, bekks done
[11:32] <bekks> game0: Now you have to configure it :)
[11:32] <fantafe> game0: now u need to configure the /etc/bind files,
[11:32] <fantafe> game0: i recommend getting webmin
[11:32] <bekks> game0: Like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/dns-configuration.html
[11:33] <bekks> !webmin | fantafe
[11:33] <bekks> Do not use webmin on Ubuntu.
[11:34] <fantafe> really i did not know webmin is not recommended for Ubuntu tbh
[11:35] <linuxthefish> k1l_ d you know why? unity is horrid on old machines
[11:36] <linuxthefish> and if I install xfce4 the network icon does not show up, and if I enable the indicator thing it shows the file menu etc
[11:36] <k1l_> linuxthefish: because gnome and unity (since unity is a gnome shell) use llvmpipe for machines not having 3d.
[11:36] <k1l_> for old machines i would go with Lubuntu anyway
[11:37] <linuxthefish> oh
[11:37] <linuxthefish> not xfce?
[11:38] <k1l_> !lubuntu | linuxthefish
[11:48] <aavrug> Can anyone tell me how to see the spaces of sda1 from termina?
[11:49] <aavrug> *terminal
[11:49] <bekks> aavrug: what do you mean by "spaces of sda1"?
[11:49] <popefacto> spaces? like how much free space?
[11:49] <k1l_> aavrug: "df -h"
[11:49] <aavrug> yea using df -h
[11:50] <kgkjggugjjj>  Is there a wi-fi sdcard that works with ubuntu, such as eyefi or flashair? http://www.toshiba-memory.com/cms/en/products/wireless-sd-cards/FlashAir/
[11:50] <aavrug> but after that getting dev/sda1 and i want to see the structure of sda1
[11:50] <aavrug> that which file taking how much space
[11:51] <k1l_> run "ncdu"
[11:52] <aavrug> that i have to install first
[11:52] <aavrug> bekks: i think sda1 is root and i want to see the root inner file structure.
[11:52] <aavrug> popefacto: yes
[11:54] <bekks> aavrug: Then you can use "df" and "du".
[11:55] <aavrug> bekks: On my system sda1 is about 100% full so i am looking for command to make it a little empty.
[11:55] <White_Cat> http://pastebin.com/rWBh2M7J
[11:55] <bekks> aavrug: Run "sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get autoremove;" - but take a close look on what the latter command will be removing.
[11:56] <White_Cat> I want to remove one of the gid and uid ranges
[11:56] <bekks> White_Cat: "uniq"
[11:56] <White_Cat> I am following https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPk7EL1jja4
[11:56] <Harrowed> kgkjggugjjj: You realise those devices don't create a wifi connection with the device right?  They only make the contents of the Card available over wifi
[11:56] <aavrug> bekks: already run both the commands.
[11:56] <White_Cat> that output was generated by grep lxcuser /etc/sub* 2>/dev/null
[11:57] <White_Cat> which one should I seek removing
[11:57] <White_Cat> 100000:65537 probably
[11:57] <aavrug> bekks: i just want to see the structure, is this possible?
[11:57] <bekks> White_Cat: Most likely none ,if you are asking that question, honestly.
[11:57] <White_Cat> bekks but they overlap
[11:57] <White_Cat> isnt that a problem
[11:57] <bekks> aavrug: ls -lha / shows you the structure of /
[11:57] <White_Cat> one was generated by lxc and one was with my command
[11:58] <bekks> aavrug: Pastebin "uname -a; df -h" please and provide the URL.
[12:00] <aavrug> bekks: http://pastebin.com/GBQ7dAcq
[12:01] <bekks> aavrug: And pastebin "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" please.
[12:01] <kgkjggugjjj> ah,, thank you Harrowed. Good point
[12:01] <xneovo10> hi
[12:01] <xneovo10> da qui si puo scaricare?
[12:02] <bekks> !it | xneovo10
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:33] <Blaster> Is there any smartphones that you can install Ubuntu on?
[12:37] <Nimbus_> LEMP vs Lamp any feedback?
[12:38] <hamidkhan> hi all
[12:39] <cfhowlett> !touch | Blaster,
[12:39] <MannerMan> Nimbus_: You probably want #ubuntu-server, but both nginx and apache will serve you fine
[12:40] <Homely_Girl> Greetings holders of all Ubuntu knowledge! :) I am having trouble updating my Ubunti 14.04, and Flash is also not updating, please help!
[12:40] <hamidkhan> i want to use monkey webserver, is it ok from security point of view ?
[12:41] <PaRaD0xxR> hi, I just updated my 12.04 system for the first time in months, now Thunderbird won't open...no idea how to fix this...can somebody help me out?
[12:42] <geothom> reinstall again the previous thundebird
[12:42] <PaRaD0xxR> how do I do that?
[12:42] <neurot> I would see if it's hung up first
[12:43] <geothom> for your flash google for repos for adobe flash plugin and your problem solved
[12:43] <PaRaD0xxR> well, I get a window that pops up "Thunderbird Update", but it's blank
[12:43] <PaRaD0xxR> think I'm low on disk space, sure that is not helping, down to 2.0g left on /
[12:44] <geothom> fisrt of all go to software center and search for thunderbird then choose to reinstall
[12:44] <PaRaD0xxR> ahh
[12:45] <stevenm> What's a good easy to use but lightweight (i.e. non-Wine, non-KDE, non-Java, non-Mono, you get the idea) XML file editor on Ubuntu?
[12:45] <Nimbus_> thank you mannerman
[12:46] <Blaster> cfhowlett, I don't care about touch, I'll control with a bluetooth mouse if I need to.
[12:47] <igno818> the server channel is vry quiet
[12:52] <PaRaD0xxR> hmm...still won't open
[12:52] <PaRaD0xxR> all I get is a "Thunderbird update" window, which is blank, and then it closes
[12:53] <PaRaD0xxR> removed/reinstalled
[12:56] <Guest15192> Hello. I have an issue with sound. There is no sound coming from speakers.
[12:57] <makara> hi. Today I can't access kindle fire HDX (always airplane mode) with adb. Tried kill-server. All sudo. Haven't been playing with android.rules (SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="22b8", MODE="0666", GROUP="plugdev")
[12:59] <PaRaD0xxR> hrm...seems to be connected to pipelight...
[12:59] <PaRaD0xxR> hrm
[13:06] <rust> installing sublime text!! I downlaodedit from website !! I extract it in a folder.later ??
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> rust: why not use the PPA?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> rust: bit easier
[13:07] <rust> ActionParsnip: How can I do that !!
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> rust: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-3; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sublime-text-installer
[13:07] <PaRaD0xxR> hrm, created a new profile, and it loads up (Thunderbird)
[13:07] <PaRaD0xxR> hrm
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> rust: plus, when the PPA gets updated, you will get the update too
[13:07] <rust> ActionParsnip: thanks but a doubt!! what is difference !!
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> rust: the WebUpd8 guys are maintaning a PPA for this to make it easier for users to install the app as well as get updates
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> rust: manual installs wont get the same updates and you will manually need to update the application
[13:08] <rust> ActionParsnip: ok!!
[13:09] <PaRaD0xxR> somehow my default Thunderbird profile is corrupt, or something
[13:09] <rust> ActionParsnip: and other softwares which are in zip file any common method for install
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> rust: if you want sublime2, use ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-2 as the PPA address
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> rust: depends on the files, stating is a compressed archive doesnt tell us much
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> rust: same in any OS.
[13:09] <rust> ActionParsnip: I installed sublime 3 thx :)
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> rust: how do you install a zip file in Windows?
[13:10] <rust> ActionParsnip: just click on .exe
[13:10] <rust> after extract
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> rust: but there isnt one, its lots of source code....
[13:10] <rust> I mean
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> rust: there are no binaries in my zip file...
[13:10] <rust> ActionParsnip: ohh
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> rust: see what I mean? it's nonesense
[13:11] <rust> ActionParsnip: sorry!!
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> rust: stating "its a zip file" doesnt tell you anything at all about the content
[13:11] <rust> ActionParsnip: after extract!! I am asking
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> rust: it could be a pack of desktop wallpapers, but its still just a "zip file"
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> rust: after extract, you need to look at the contents
[13:12] <rust> ActionParsnip: sorry!! I am saying I extract in some folder .later what ??
[13:12] <rust> ActionParsnip: next!!
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> rust: make a call, I cant see the daa. YOU will need to work out the next move
[13:16] <rust> ActionParsnip:In windows after extraction there is .exe which is use for install the software.In linux is it already installed file in zip file ?
[13:16] <rust> ActionParsnip: which is directly for use ?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> rust: not all archives have EXE files
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> rust: as I just told you
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> rust: try reading
[13:17] <rust> ActionParsnip: yeah!!
[13:17] <rust> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help!!
[13:17] <rust> ActionParsnip: I am newb
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> rust: you will learn with time
[13:19] <rust> ActionParsnip:yeah!! I am on it!! you guys are always very respectful for me.
[13:27] <White_Cat_> hi
[13:27] <White_Cat_> anyone here experienced with lxc?
[13:28] <krambiorix> hi, how can i see who logged in on my server via ssh the past month?
[13:28] <SchrodingersScat> krambiorix: /var/log/auth.log #?
[13:29] <xubuntu_> hello. sound is not delivered through the speakers. No sound.
[13:31] <SchrodingersScat> xubuntu_: grep Accepted /var/log/auth.log  #although log rotate will put many auth.log. sometimes
[13:31] <SchrodingersScat> oops, that was for krambiorix
[13:31] <bekks> White_Cat_: Whats your actual question?
[13:31] <krambiorix> SchrodingersScat, thanks , i got it. A friend installed munin on my server. Any idea how i can block an IP?
[13:32] <SchrodingersScat> krambiorix: I've used iptables, not sure what better solutions exist
[13:34] <My_Chris> Has anyone here ever dealt with Intel RST on Linux?, I've got an Acer Aspire which comes with a 24GB SSD (You can't boot off directly),
[13:34] <My_Chris> I'm kinda confused on how RST works and what steps I would need to take during the partitioning process to ensure it would work.
[13:35] <krambiorix> SchrodingersScat, i see that my friend also installed failed2ban , so that takes care of it :D
[13:36] <zomgreg> Heh failed 2 ban
[13:36] <ZadYree> Hello! I would like to know how to generate a  ~/.cinnamon after an erroneous rm -rf :/
[13:37] <zomgreg> My_Chris: can you just overwrite the partition table or erase it by booting from a live usb or something?
[13:39] <fantafe> Kubuntu
[13:39] <fantafe> lubuntu
[13:40] <krambiorix> zomgreg, not a good tool?
[13:41] <zomgreg> I was chuckling at the typo.
[13:41] <krambiorix> ow yeah zomgreg :D
[13:41] <zomgreg> s/fail/failed
[13:41] <krambiorix> yes
[13:42] <zomgreg> :)
[13:42] <krambiorix> zomgreg, a free friday afternoon joke for you
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> ZadYree: then log off and press CTRL + ALT + F1, rename the folder then reboot
[13:42] <zomgreg> Afaik it uses iptables
[13:42] <krambiorix> k
[13:43] <krambiorix> how could i send an email with the username in it when someone logs in ?
[13:49] <White_Cat_> bekks I am trying to setup three lxc instances and am badly failing at achiving that
[13:51] <houari> helo guys
[13:53] <houari> I ve dealt with ubuntu issu since yesterday, this is the rapport http://paste.ubuntu.com/10448770/ , if any one can help me thanks
[13:56] <houari> ???
[13:56] <aphrode> ？
[13:56] <houari> I ve dealt with ubuntu issu since yesterday, this is the rapport http://paste.ubuntu.com/10448770/ , if any one can help me thanks
[13:57] <aphrode> let me see
[13:57] <murcha> I untared a tar folder to a specific destination ( using -C) in ubuntu but i lost the folder. df -h  shows that some is space is used
[13:57] <houari> ok
[14:01] <skulltip> running 14.01.2  lxde and even though updates show this: linux-headers-3.13.0-46    i'm still at 3.13.0-32 on reboot. is that normal?
[14:02] <bekks> skulltip: Did you run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[14:04] <skulltip> dist-upgrade
[14:04] <White_Cat_> bekks namely to create a virtual network
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> houari: what is the issue?
[14:04] <White_Cat_> i want each lxc instance to have a seperate ip
[14:05] <houari> ActionParsnip:  this is the rapport  of the issu http://paste.ubuntu.com/10448770/  ;
[14:07] <kk0710> Hi guys, I am having a couple problems with 14.04lts on my new HP laptop.  The main one is with my wireless, I am constantly having to turn my wireless adapter on and off, My connection will be stable for a while then all of a sudden lock up while trying to load a webpage or stream, I will open up terminal and trying a ping and nothing.  It is only happening on the ubuntu side, I reset my modem and router to be safe but it is still happenin
[14:07] <kk0710> g?
[14:07] <skulltip> running apt-get upgrade.. would have thought dist-upgrade woudl have done it all
[14:08] <murcha> I untared a tar folder to a specific destination ( using -C) in ubuntu but the folder is missing. df -h  shows that some is space is used
[14:10] <aphrode> :-)
[14:10] <houari> aphrode: any idea to fix it??
[14:14] <b-p> hi, help pls. i need to restart rsyslogd after _all_ my /etc/logrotate.d/* config files processed. sharedscripts do this? so if i have 3 log in ../postfix another 3 in ../rsyslog and many more i need to restart rsyslogd only once after all logs processed (?)
[14:14] <ikonia> you shouldn't need to restart rsyslog
[14:15] <ikonia> syslog behaves well with log rotate
[14:15] <kk0710> Hi guys, I am having a couple problems with 14.04lts on my new HP laptop.  The main one is with my wireless, I am constantly having to turn my wireless adapter on and off, My connection will be stable for a while then all of a sudden lock up while trying to load a webpage or stream, I will open up terminal and trying a ping and nothing.  It is only happening on the ubuntu side, I reset my modem and router to be safe but it is still happenin
[14:15] <kk0710> g?
[14:16] <b-p> i must restart rsyslogd after mail.log rotated because after logrotate runs i have a 0 byte mail.log but if i restart rsyslogd it writes to the mail.log
[14:16] <b-p> i dont know why :(
[14:16] <bekks> Then how does your entry for mail.log look like?
[14:17] <bekks> Seems like it is broken.
[14:17] <ikonia> it sounds like you are trying to move out an open file
[14:17] <ikonia> rather than archive it
[14:17] <aphrode> maybe no
[14:17] <b-p> http://pastebin.com/ghKcdQfN
[14:17] <b-p> here is it
[14:18] <c3l> How can disable window title and window border for new windows? Similar to what the script in http://askubuntu.com/questions/75284/remove-titlebar-from-maximized-terminal-window/103598 achieves, not that I want this to be the default behaviour. How do I fix that? (using xubuntu)
[14:18] <b-p> i write the not tabbes lines to it
[14:19] <aphrode> I can't open it...
[14:20] <b-p> but i have service rsyslog restart in another logrotate files: for the ufw.log, debug, messages, daemon.log, kern.log, user.log, lpr.log, cron.log, syslog
[14:20] <b-p> but in another /etc/logrotate.d/ files
[14:20] <houari> ??
[14:25] <b-p> http://pastebin.ca/2944836
[14:25] <ablest1980> hi
[14:25] <b-p> all the files has invoke-rc.d rsyslog reload
[14:25] <ablest1980> i cant update it says i dont have enough disk space
[14:26] <houari> I ve dealt with ubuntu issu since yesterday, this is the rapport http://paste.ubuntu.com/10448770/ , if any one can help me thanks
[14:26] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove        may help
[14:27] <ablest1980> ok
[14:27] <ablest1980> ty
[14:27] <kk0710> Hi guys, I am having a couple problems with 14.04lts on my new HP laptop.  The main one is with my wireless, I am constantly having to turn my wireless adapter on and off, My connection will be stable for a while then all of a sudden lock up while trying to load a webpage or stream, I will open up terminal and trying a ping and nothing.  It is only happening on the ubuntu side, I reset my modem and router  but it is still happening?
[14:28] <ablest1980> still the same cfhowlett
[14:28] <b-p> here is all my files contents in /etc/logrotate.d/: http://pastebin.ca/2944836
[14:28] <ablest1980> do i restart?
[14:28] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, shouldn't have to restart.  do this:  df -H
[14:29] <b-p> so if i write sharedscripts to all files its globally shared?
[14:29] <amine> hi
[14:29] <ablest1980> how i do that?
[14:29] <aphrode> hi
[14:29] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, open a terminal and run that command
[14:29] <ablest1980> ok
[14:29] <ablest1980> sudo df- h?
[14:29] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, no
[14:29] <Guest35525> plz help me
[14:30] <ablest1980> ok
[14:30] <Guest35525> im a windows user
[14:30] <Guest35525> hey anyone
[14:30] <ablest1980> ok i did that
[14:30] <cfhowlett> Guest35525, windows support in ##windows
[14:32] <ablest1980> cfhowlett
[14:32] <aphrode> .
[14:32] <ablest1980> i did df -h
[14:32] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, pastebin it
[14:32] <Guest35525> after i installed ubuntu it cant detect my phone
[14:32] <jeffreylevesque> does ubuntu come with /var/www/html/ directory?
[14:32] <ablest1980> ok
[14:32] <jeffreylevesque> or just /var/www
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !details | Guest35525,
[14:33] <jeffreylevesque> or neither?
[14:33] <ablest1980> http://pastebin.com/VZ3YpeBs
[14:33] <jeffreylevesque> the directory only becomes apparent when downloading a webserver like apache2?
[14:35] <ablest1980> cfhowlett http://pastebin.com/VZ3YpeBs
[14:35] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, wait 1
[14:35] <ablest1980> ok
[14:35] <b-p> any idea about my logrotate question please?
[14:38] <amine-apt-get> hi
[14:38] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, cannot see.  either point your .pastebinit.xml to paste.ubuntu.com or copy the output to fpaste.org
[14:38] <houari> I ve dealt with ubuntu issu since yesterday, this is the rapport http://paste.ubuntu.com/10448770/ , if any one can help me thanks
[14:38] <ablest1980> do i need to create a pastebin account?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, line 7 of this example  http://fpaste.org/191377/
[14:38] <pgpgpgp> ablest1980: no
[14:39] <ablest1980> ok
[14:39] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, skip lines 8 -10
[14:39] <amine-apt-get> help me plz---i just installed ubuntu and it doesnt detect my phone
[14:39] <gswallow> Am I crazy, or do wireless tools and the wpa-supplicant thingy actually come pre-packaged with Canonical's Precise AMI?
[14:39] <gswallow> And....why?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> amine-apt-get, more details.
[14:41] <ablest1980> cfhowlett http://pastebin.com/j03tBmuM
[14:42] <amine-apt-get> i tried installing gparted and it didnt work
[14:42] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, no can see.  copy/paste to fpaste.
[14:42] <ablest1980> how
[14:42] <cfhowlett> amine-apt-get, you're using gparted on your phone???
[14:42] <no_thumbnails> upgraded to 14.04 and now no video thumbnails are shown
[14:43] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, df -h.  copy the output.  open fpaste.org   paste the output
[14:43] <amine-apt-get> no
[14:43] <amine-apt-get> on laptop
[14:43] <amine-apt-get> gparted didnt detect my phone also
[14:44] <cfhowlett> amine-apt-get, you are making ZERO sense.  if you want help, describe your issue IN DETAIL.
[14:44] <cfhowlett> no bread crumbs
[14:44] <ablest1980> cfhowlett http://ur1.ca/jtapg
[14:44] <houari> ActionParsnip: anu new about the issu??
[14:44] <Gentoochild> hello dear gurus. I'm trying to build an upstart task that works for both start and stop events. Is that possible to do?
[14:44] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, better
[14:45] <ablest1980> :)
[14:45] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, well you seem to have plenty of space ....
[14:46] <amine-apt-get> when i plug my phone to the computer....my laptop doesnt detect my phone
[14:46] <ablest1980> 416g?
[14:46] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, yep.
[14:47] <cfhowlett> amine-apt-get, unlock your phone.  check storage options; try camera and storage device
[14:47] <Gentoochild> I want to set up ipfilter rules with start and clear them out with stop. Any suggestion on that?
[14:47] <xubuntu_> No sound on xubuntu. I am running xubuntu Live on hp pavillion.
[14:47] <pbx> amine-apt-get, what specifically are you expecting to happen?  where are you looking? what resources and docs have you consulted online?
[14:48] <no_thumbnails> upgraded to 14.04 and now no video thumbnails are shown
[14:48] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, nothing in this printout explains why you are seeing "out of space" errors, so my idea doesn't help
[14:48] <ablest1980> ok
[14:48] <ablest1980> should i try a restart?
[14:49] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, can't hurt to try
[14:49] <ablest1980> ok brb
[14:50] <thunder_kk> i have brought a bluetooth keyboard its pairing up but its not receiving any keys except some like "p" which is detected as 6. please help
[14:50] <amine-apt-get> my phone works perfectly  on other laptops but when i installed elementary os it didnt detect my phone then i installed ubuntu and still not working so i tried using gparted to mount usb's and it didnt even recognize my phone
[14:51] <cfhowlett> amine-apt-get, do not use gparted on your phone.  DO NOT ...
[14:51] <amine-apt-get> i used it on my laptop
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> houari: you havent said what the actual problem is....
[14:52] <amine-apt-get> i have all my backups on my phone
[14:52] <thunder_kk> i have brought a bluetooth keyboard its pairing up but its not receiving any keys except some like "p" which is detected as 6. please help
[14:52] <XenophonF> hey all - so i think i've narrowed down my problems with ubuntu on my macbookpro5,1 to some kind of compatibility issue with nouveau (which of course gets disabled by nomodeset)
[14:53] <XenophonF> unfortunately turning off KMS means things like VESA powerdown don't appear to work
[14:53] <houari> ActionParsnip: a black screen hang and I can t acsess  my desktop
[14:53] <qwerkus> Hello, I have a weired wifi mini card: sometimes it works, and I can connect to the router, and sometimes it doesn't. All config remain unchanged. Under windows it works all the time. Really strange.
[14:54] <no_thumbnails> upgraded to 14.04 and now no video thumbnails are shown
[14:54] <qwerkus> 802.11n, chan 6, WPA2 PSK, AES encryption
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> thunder_kk: do you have numlock on?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> houari: what GPU do you use?
[14:55] <qwerkus> driver is ath9k
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> qwerkus: what make and model laptop?
[14:56] <XenophonF> my approach at the moment is to disable nouveau via the modprobe blacklist
[14:56] <ablest1980> cfhowlett still the same
[14:57] <ablest1980> cfhowlett want be to fpaste.org the msg i get?
[14:57] <ablest1980> em*
[14:57] <ablest1980> me
[14:57] <qwerkus> ActionParsnip: no laptop, but a mini ITX mobo. I put the chip myself (AR9462) hoping to increase linux compatibility
[14:57] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, afraid I struck out.  no fresh ideas.  ask again in channel.  lots of people smarter than me.
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> XenophonF: does it have an INtel GPU as well (Optimus technology)?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> qwerkus: try: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf. > /dev/null
[14:57] <ablest1980> ok
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> qwerkus: reboot to test
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> qwerkus: wait
[14:58] <alimj> Hello everyone. I wonder if would be possible to generate a beep sound from bash prompt. Something like "echo ^g" which we had long long ago in MS-DOS
[14:58] <XenophonF> ActionParsnip: yeah, but i couldn't tell you exactly which - i'd have to look up the specs
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> qwerkus: try: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null
[14:58] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: why does he need that
[14:58] <ikonia> it sometimes works
[14:58] <ikonia> why are you telling him to do that ?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: ive seen some chips under ath9k need this, its free to try and easily undo-able
[14:58] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: why though
[14:58] <ikonia> it works
[14:58] <O_OniGiri> Hi there, is it possible to delete an administrator account?
[14:58] <alimj> I would like to generate a beep after a command completes. Something like "sh command;beepcommand"
[14:58] <ikonia> if it never worked, I'd see a point
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: so, why not?
[14:59] <ikonia> but if it does work - why are you setting this
[14:59] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: because it's just a random blind guess
[14:59] <XenophonF> ActionParsnip: this version of the macbookpro doesn't do the automatic graphics switching - should i boot into mac os x and switch to the intel gpu?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: yes, it didnt work because the optionwasnt added
[14:59] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: it does work though
[14:59] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: it sometimes fails to connect
[14:59] <a1fa> anyone else running flgrx drivers in here?
[14:59] <ikonia> it can't "need" that optoin
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: maybe but as I said, its free to try and easily undo-able
[14:59] <qwerkus> ActionParsnip: will try, thanks
[14:59] <ikonia> or it would never connect
[14:59] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: you're just trying random thins
[14:59] <Kub> oumaicat
[14:59] <houari> ActionParsnip:product: Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller        vendor: Intel Corporation        physical id: 2
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: ive seen it work many times, lets justtry ok
[14:59] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: if you do'nt know - don't help but don't just fire random things
[14:59] <XenophonF> i only want this mac for ubuntu server, so i don't care about the graphics drivers (want to try out openstack and this machine is handy)
[15:00] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no, lets not just fire random things into peoples confis
[15:00] <ablest1980> someone please help i getting not enough disk space with update today
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746326   for example
[15:00] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: I'm not asking for a forum post
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: its not random at all
[15:00] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: explain to me how that settings impacts sometimes works, sometimes doesn't
[15:03] <john_doe_jr> I need to run a tar command in a script @ a particular file path and then output the tar to a specific location…is that possible?  This is what I have so far: " /bin/tar c -v -p -z -f $BACKUP_SHORT_NAME --exclude=$BACKUP_SHORT_NAME -C $BACKUP_TARGET . " …the command changes to the destination but the script creates that tar inside the path where the initial script lives but I would like to store the tar somewhere else…is that possible?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: if the system cannot process the packets in hardware then it will need this option to make it work in software
[15:03] <houari> ActionParsnip. is it correct the GPU I gave U, I found cammand line on google and it gave me what I send u
[15:04] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: why does it sometimes work for him
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: considering my points earlier, i dont understand your issue. If it doesnt help then no love lost
[15:04] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: if it cannot process packets - how is it working
[15:04] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: becaues just random guesses are not acceptable help
[15:04] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: and you cloud the issue with random guesses, and as someone on that post stated it can bring him in additional crashes, plus that post is for 11.04 - 4 years old,
[15:05] <ikonia> more actual help, less random guesses
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: its all over the web, search it
[15:05] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> qwerkus: did it work?
[15:05] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: how can you tell if it "works"
[15:05] <ikonia> it's an intermittent fault
[15:05] <ikonia> it's already working
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: we'll see
[15:06] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: see what
[15:06] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: how are you judging this ?
[15:06] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: how do we know 'it's worked'
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: because the user will report it being ok more frequently
[15:06] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: you don't even know how much it drops
[15:07] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: you've done no research into the problem just fired a random parameter
[15:07] <MikeJonesz> Does anyone know how I can enable root?
[15:07] <ikonia> this is my whole point
[15:07] <ikonia> MikeJonesz: you don't
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> MikeJonesz: you don't. Just ruse sudo
[15:07] <cfhowlett> !root | MikeJonesz
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> MikeJonesz: this is how the OS is intended to be used
[15:07] <MikeJonesz> I want to use root though
[15:07] <ikonia> MikeJonesz: you don't
[15:07] <MikeJonesz> why?
[15:07] <ikonia> MikeJonesz: you need to use the ubuntu security model
[15:07] <ikonia> MikeJonesz: why do you need root and not sudo ?
[15:08] <MikeJonesz> cause sudo is for niggers
[15:13] <jakey2> does anyone host zadmin on ubuntu?
[15:13] <jakey2> can they recommend this
[15:13] <jakey2> ??
[15:13] <popefacto> I can't seem to make ALSA k3.13.0-46-lowlatency play nicely with an NVIDIA G73M (GeForce Go 7600). I get video out of the HDMI but no audio. I've seen a few iterations of this (and similar) but haven't found any that made it work.
[15:15] <ablest1980> hi
[15:15] <ablest1980> cfhowlett i think this is my problem and answer i dont know how to do it
[15:16] <ablest1980> cfhowlett http://askubuntu.com/questions/142926/cant-upgrade-due-to-low-disk-space-on-boot
[15:17] <ablest1980> cfhowlett my boot partition is fill with old kernals
[15:17] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, sudo apt-get autoremove
[15:17] <ablest1980> ok
[15:17] <XenophonF> ablest1980: can you run the dpkg command in the linked answer and post the results to paste.debian.net or something?
[15:18] <ablest1980> ok
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> ablest1980: can you please pastebin the output of:    uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image | grep generic | awk {'print $2'}
[15:19] <XenophonF> brb
[15:20] <ablest1980> just type dpkg in term?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> ablest1980: copy the command I gave and hit ENTER then go to http://pastie.org and make a paste there
[15:21] <cfhowlett> ablest1980,  uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image | grep generic | awk {'print $2'} | pastebinit
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> ablest1980: when the page changes, copy the URL in the address bar and paste that into the channel
[15:21] <virus> привет всем руские есть
[15:21] <ablest1980> k
[15:21] <cfhowlett> !ru | virus
[15:22] <ablest1980> http://ur1.ca/jtb09
[15:22] <ablest1980> ^^
[15:22] <Gentoochild> So, can you give me any nudge on how to give an upstart task a "running" state without actually having an active process?
[15:23] <ablest1980> actionparsnip  http://ur1.ca/jtb09
[15:23] <XenophonF> back
[15:23] <ablest1980> wb
[15:23] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, I wouldn't say that's "full" but ...
[15:24] <ablest1980> cfhowlett i need to delete old kernals?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> ablest1980: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic linux-image-3.13.0-43-generic; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[15:25] <ablest1980> actionparsnip ok
[15:25] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, ActionParsnip has a handle on this.  work with him
[15:25] <ablest1980> cfhowlett ok
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> ablest1980: you have 2 surplus kernels (its good to keep the one before the active kernel).
[15:26] <ablest1980> SAY 350+ space will be freed
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> ablest1980: yes, 2 kernels and all its fluff
[15:27] <cc> anyone, i deleted windows 7 and install linux mint 17.1 but now i want to dual boot windows 7 and linux mint now. how do i do that.
[15:27] <ablest1980> ty guys
[15:27] <cfhowlett> cc, ask mint for support.  not ubuntu.
[15:27] <cfhowlett> !mint
[15:28] <houari> what that mean that : product: Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller        vendor: Intel Corporation        physical id: 2 ???
[15:29] <ablest1980> ok ty guys updates are installing
[15:29] <Knight80> Hello everyone!
[15:29] <Knight80> :)
[15:29] <ablest1980> hello :)
[15:29] <Knight80> How are you doing today?
[15:29] <ablest1980> ok u
[15:30] <OerHeks> houari, it is just the description of your gpu
[15:30] <houari> oh sorry
[15:30] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[15:30] <Knight80> Quite fine, thank you
[15:30] <ablest1980> 14.04 lts
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> ablest1980: sweet, if your /boot is that small you will need to manage kernels in this fashion so the partition doesnt fill
[15:31] <houari> I means this : (glade2script:17817): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.ZIFYUX': No such file or directory
[15:31] <ablest1980> ok
[15:31] <Knight80> Only I'm having a problem with lirc and I'm looking for someone who can help me with it.
[15:31] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, I'm surprised apt-get autoremove doesn't work.  it does for ubuntustudio 14.04.2
[15:32] <kaikas> Where can i find the rdma_cma.h in ubuntu 14.04?
[15:32] <Knight80> Can anybody help me configuring lirc on Ubuntu 14.10, please?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> kaikas: sudo updatedb; locat cma.h
[15:32] <Pici> 36
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> kaikas: sorry,    locate cma.h
[15:32] <ablest1980> im happy its fixed
[15:33] <ablest1980> cfhowlett
[15:33] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, well, go forth and conquer, young man: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:33] <houari> ??
[15:33] <ablest1980> ok
[15:34] <Knight80> ablest1980 May I ask you where you are from?
[15:34] <ablest1980> is that to run ubuntu updater?
[15:34] <ablest1980> ny us
[15:34] <Knight80> cool
[15:34] <ablest1980> :)
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Knight80: seems to be new york
[15:35] <ablest1980> cool
[15:35] <Knight80> Yes, I know
[15:36] <ablest1980> do you have cs?
[15:36] <Knight80> Can anybody help me with lirc, please?
[15:36] <Knight80> Or does anybody know what lirc is?
[15:36] <ablest1980> i use hexchat
[15:37] <OpenTokix> Knight80: ir-daemon?
[15:38] <OerHeks> Knight80, should be easy, sudo apt-get install lirc and go to #2 http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Set_up_Lirc
[15:38] <Knight80> Thank you
[15:39] <Knight80> May I paste something here?
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Knight80: if its many lines, use a pastebin]
[15:39] <OerHeks> Knight80, for multiple lines, paste.ubuntu.com
[15:39] <Knight80> ok, thank you
[15:40] <ablest1980> bbl bye all
[15:41] <Knight80> Ok, here it is-----> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10450499/
[15:42] <OpenTokix> Knight80: you're trying to run as your user? - do ls -la /dev/ttysS0 and check permissions of the serial port
[15:44] <bishopstix> please help: have broken dependencies (it happens every time by the way): need to download linux kernel 3.13.0-46, and the software manager keeps repeating same error
[15:44] <bishopstix> and boot is full
[15:45] <Knight80> OpenTokix Ok
[15:46] <OpenTokix> Knight80: you need to add your user to dialout group
[15:46] <Knight80> OpenTokix How can I do that?
[15:46] <OpenTokix> sudo addgroup yourusername dialout
[15:46] <OpenTokix> and then relogin your user
[15:47] <Knight80> ok, thank you very much
[15:47] <OpenTokix> Knight80: That should work
[15:47] <Knight80> I'll be right back
[15:51] <Knight80> OpenTokix I did what you told me to do. This is what it says now: -----> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10450613/
[15:53] <OpenTokix> Knight80: have you started lircd ?
[15:53] <OpenTokix> and in that case, did you restart it?
[15:53] <Knight80> OpenTokix I think I have
[15:53] <Knight80> This is what I did:---> /etc/init.d/lirc restart
[15:53] <OpenTokix> ok
[15:54] <OpenTokix> what does: ps auxwf|grep lirc
[15:54] <OpenTokix> give?
[15:55] <Knight80> OpenTokix http://paste.ubuntu.com/10450662/
[15:55] <uuhimhere> does aosp allow for drm/kms to bebuilt into the kernel
[15:55] <uuhimhere> i.e. can i re-build my samsung bcm21664 kernel as such www.mindwerks.net/2014/09/videocoreiv-glamor-on-your-raspberry-pi/
[15:56] <OpenTokix>  --device=/dev/lirc0 <-- Knight80, why are you trying to talk to /dev/ttyS0 then? ;)
[15:56] <Knight80> OpenTokix I don't know :(
[15:57] <OpenTokix> Knight80: check the config options for irecord
[15:57] <OpenTokix> Knight80: to specify device, and change to /dev/lic0
[15:57] <OpenTokix> lirc0
[15:57] <Knight80> ok
[15:58] <Knight80> OpenTokix http://paste.ubuntu.com/10450740/
[15:58] <OpenTokix> Knight80: ls -la /dev/lirc0
[15:59] <Knight80> OpenTokix ls -la /dev/lirc0
[15:59] <Knight80> ls: no se puede acceder a /dev/lirc0: No existe el archivo o el directorio
[15:59] <OpenTokix> Dont look like its running afterall, since it say "no such device"
[15:59] <OpenTokix> Knight80: you should check in /var/log/syslog and grep for lircd
[16:00] <Knight80> OpenTokix ok
[16:01] <OpenTokix> Knight80: Im leaving the office now - but anyway. - lircd is the daemon talking to your device, and creates a device-node in the filesystem that your applikations talk to. - That is the flow
[16:02] <aphrode> ok
[16:02] <Knight80> OpenTokix Ok, thankas a lot
[16:02] <aphrode> thanks a lot
[16:02] <Knight80> thanks a lot
[16:02] <OpenTokix> good luck
[16:02] <Knight80> thanks again
[16:03] <aphrode> Open Tokix:thanks a lot
[16:03] <Knight80> irw isn't working either
[16:03] <Knight80> sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
[16:03] <aphrode> yes
[16:03] <Knight80> :(
[16:03] <aphrode> its true
[16:03] <Knight80> aphrode What is true?
[16:04] <aphrode> you say that
[16:04] <Knight80> you're a bot, aren't you?
[16:04] <aphrode> no no no
[16:04] <Knight80> I'm kidding
[16:04] <aphrode> jokking?
[16:05] <aphrode> you are smart
[16:08] <ciggar> helo ppl
[16:10] <bynarie> hello ciggar
[16:10] <aphrode> hi ciggar
[16:11] <ciggar> any cnow how to do to work usb 2 on ubuntu 14.04.02 because i inabled on bios but alway say new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2 an the pc wont restar or shutdown
[16:11] <ciggar> ????
[16:12] <bynarie> ciggar, so ur usb devices are not working?
[16:12] <ciggar> yup
[16:13] <bynarie> ciggar, try "sudo lsusb" and "sudo dmesg | grep usb"
[16:13] <aphrode> check it again
[16:13] <bynarie> see what its showing
[16:14] <demahum> Does anyone heard of issue that if you have dual-boot with both Windows 8 and Ubuntu you won't be able to turn off the computer (not laptop) the normal way because it will turn on itself automatically every time?
[16:17] <aphrode> windows 8?
[16:17] <demahum> aphrode: Yes.
[16:18] <aphrode> i don't know...
[16:18] <aphrode> please try again
[16:19] <demahum> aphrode: haha.. it's not about trying... It's an issue. I am sitting in front of more than 10 that kind pc-s... My professor told me that it is an issue with dual boot (win8 and ubuntu). I am googling, but not finding anything...
[16:19] <aphrode> ..
[16:22] <daftykins> !mac
[16:23] <uuhimhere> www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Raspberry-Pi-VC4-Linux-4.0
[16:24] <uuhimhere> all u need is a gsm module and an altoid can and uve got youself a steampunk pi2 smartphone
[16:25] <freeroute> any idea why this happens? http://imgur.com/Cuc9GgE - the user tst is already added to the sudoers file.
[16:26] <bynarie> freeroute, did u edit visudo?
[16:27] <genii> freeroute: Odds are it's entry is after some other rule
[16:27] <genii> ( assuming that it's syntax is correct)
[16:28] <freeroute> this is how my sudoers looks like - http://imgur.com/J1964p8
[16:28] <bynarie> freeroute, thats odd
[16:29] <freeroute> I have to edit sudoers using 'sudo visudo', right?
[16:29] <bynarie> freeroute, have u tried changing to user "root" and executing?
[16:29] <bynarie> yes freeroute
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> freeroute: the sudo doesnt traverse the redirect
[16:29] <xtrumanx> hello, world
[16:29] <freeroute> oh
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> freeroute: you clearly dont understand security and the fact you changed your sudoers file just proves that
[16:30] <freeroute> I thought adding my user to the sudoers group was the proper method?
[16:30] <bynarie> ActionParsnip, your sarcasm doesnt help him fix the problem
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> freeroute: you need to run:   echo "blah" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/whatever.list
[16:30] <xtrumanx> i downloaded and installed deb package. what's the best way to keep it up to date? redownloading and installing the deb package everytime there's a new release?
[16:31] <genii> ActionParsnip: Good catch
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> bynarie: people "fixing" their computers to have zero security is a little tiring.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> genii: ;)