[00:01] <Blacki> any idea what should I do now ?
[00:02] <L3top> this is gonna be hard for me to troubleshoot atm because I use hardware RAID, and don't have anything up atm, but try: mdadm --examine /dev/disk/by-uuid/3bcf8905-81fa-491e-83ea-3cd4e4d8b947
[00:04] <awesomejeff> my wifi stoped working
[00:04] <L3top> My wife stopped putting out
[00:04] <L3top> oh... sorry...
[00:05] <L3top> support, not humor... my bad.
[00:05] <awesomejeff> help i disabled my WiFi on my dell inspiron mini running Ubuntu 11.10 to save battery life but when i try to re enable it says wireless is disabled by hardware switch i tried my hardware switch but it does not help thanks in advance
[00:05] <Blacki> :D
[00:06] <L3top> How did you disable it awesomejeff
[00:06] <hiexpo> with the button
[00:06] <gr33nx> ?
[00:06] <L3top> physical button on the hardware itself?
[00:06] <L3top> s/hardware/laptop
[00:06] <awesomejeff> no on the top left coner
[00:07] <hiexpo> do a reboot
[00:07] <awesomejeff> i did
[00:07] <L3top> awesomejeff: iwconfig
[00:07] <L3top> tell me which device has a bunch of writing
[00:07] <L3top> like... eth1
[00:07] <awesomejeff> ok brb
[00:07] <intok> Other then Mednafen and SDLMame are there any actively developed NeoGeo emulators with a frontend?
[00:08] <awesomejeff> here you go
[00:08] <awesomejeff> awesomejeff@jeff-Inspiron-1018:~$ iwconfig lo        no wireless extensions.  wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any             Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=off              Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr=2347 B   Fragment thr:off           Power Management:on            eth0      no wireless extensions.  awesomejeff@jeff-Inspiron-1018:~$
[00:08] <L3top> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[00:09] <awesomejeff> got error SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill got error
[00:09] <Raymond_> wireless hardware not turning on.
[00:10] <awesomejeff> ya =(
[00:10] <Raymond_> its a broadcom4306
[00:10] <awesomejeff> ya
[00:11] <delinquentme_> has anyone noticed that new files require a refresh to show up in a directory ... but only in non-stock versions of the ubuntu skin?
[00:11] <L3top> sudo rfkill unblock wifi; sudo rfkill unblock all
[00:11] <L3top> reboot
[00:12] <awesomejeff> nope stile won't work
[00:12] <L3top> that was a fast reboot
[00:12] <awesomejeff> oh i have to reboot
[00:13] <awesomejeff> let me do a reboot brb
[00:13] <meowsus> Say I have someones user folder and I want to remove all files that start with a dot (rather, any file matching this pattern: .*) in all directories and subdirectories of the current folder.
[00:14] <meowsus> What would the command be?
[00:15] <itaylor57> meowsus, find . -name ".*" -exec rm -f {} \;
[00:15] <meowsus> what's the {} \; part?
[00:16] <itaylor57> meowsus, find . -type f -name ".*" -exec rm -f {} \;
[00:16] <L3top> rm -r /path/to/user/folder/.[a-zA-Z0-9]*
[00:16] <L3top> lol
[00:16] <L3top> or that.
[00:16]  * L3top is skurred of find
[00:16] <meowsus> L3top, i need it to find and remove all of the files recursively, regardless of where they are
[00:17] <meowsus> itaylor57, thanks!
[00:17] <L3top> then itaylor57 gave the anser
[00:17] <itaylor57> L3top, i am an old 26 user unix/linux
[00:17] <L3top> answer
[00:18] <L3top> I am just an old user
[00:18] <awesomejeff> nope wifi stile won't work =(
[00:18] <L3top> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[00:18] <L3top> see if error is same
[00:19] <awesomejeff> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill error is the same
[00:19] <L3top> only a couple of years in nix... itaylor57
[00:19] <stercor> What's a quick way to create a 1GB file.  Contents don't matter.
[00:20] <L3top> I would google that error awesomejeff... if it is not on the kill list, I dont know why you would get that.
[00:20] <itaylor57> L3top, yea got a lemur ubuntu back on 10.10
[00:20] <L3top> unless someone else knows.
[00:20] <fffff> awesomeheff: is there combination  [Fn key] + [wifi icon key]  ?
[00:21] <awesomejeff> yes i pressed it doesn't do anything
[00:21] <synner> hello
[00:21] <synner> i fear i may have broken apt-get :(
[00:21] <dougl> I have remote desktop configured but cannot vnc into my ubuntu machine with chicken of the vnc on my mac - what am I missing?
[00:22] <synner> i am not very familiar with all this
[00:22] <L3top> what is apt-get doing synner
[00:22] <synner> it tells me that i have python2.7.05-ubuntu05 and that i need python 2.7.05-ubuntu05
[00:23] <L3top> well... apt is not broken
[00:23] <L3top> lol
[00:23] <synner> it also suggest me to run apt-get -f to fix it
[00:23] <fffff> awesomejeff: then how about this? try to wifi signal on by [fn] + [wifi] and trun off, and detach battary. 10sec after attach back and trun on.
[00:24] <synner> then, it tells me that structs is not found
[00:24] <awesomejeff> my wifi is stile broken'
[00:24] <awesomejeff> can't spell stile =P
[00:24] <L3top> not so awesome afterall...
[00:25] <L3top> synner: dpkg --configure -a
[00:25] <synner> can i pm you L3top ?
[00:25] <L3top> synner: apt-get update
[00:25] <L3top> its best we stay here, in case I make an error
[00:25] <synner> cool
[00:25] <synner> here is the output
[00:25] <synner> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[00:25] <synner> The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-dev : Depends: python (= 2.7.1-0ubuntu5) but 2.7.1-0ubuntu5.1 is installed
[00:25] <FloodBot1> synner: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:25] <L3top> you can pm me the flood
[00:25] <L3top> or pastebin
[00:26] <L3top> preferably
[00:26] <synner> pastebin it is
[00:26] <otaviobarreto> hi
[00:26] <L3top> ok
[00:26] <otaviobarreto> 1x100000000000000000000
[00:26] <synner> here is my pastebin: http://pastebin.com/0v4RC9Et
[00:26] <L3top> the issue is going to be one of dependencies it looks like
[00:27] <otaviobarreto> 10
[00:27] <otaviobarreto> t
[00:27] <L3top> have you changed them recently?
[00:27] <fhsales> hello people
[00:27] <fhsales> i need help
[00:27] <fhsales> someone can help me?
[00:27] <L3top> python is a pain in the bum to move around as well...
[00:27] <stiltzkin> fhsales, what do you need help with?
[00:27] <L3top> what were you trying to do when this happened?
[00:28] <administrator> yes
[00:28] <synner> i had the apt-gui
[00:28] <fhsales> ok.
[00:28] <synner> and i clicked on "update"
[00:29] <fhsales> my problem is that i installed ubuntu 10.04 on my machine.
[00:29] <fhsales> but it faile to recognize my usb wireless adapter.
[00:29] <stiltzkin> fhsales, what is the model number of your wireless adapter
[00:29] <fhsales> and i would like to know if there is a way to make it work.
[00:29] <fhsales> Elsys EWU-2n3SA
[00:29] <synner> l3top: here is the pastebin for dpkg -a --configure http://pastebin.com/75trJtK8
[00:31] <amaroks> Hello, my server is ubuntu and I have a command running that is using 50% of CPU
[00:31] <amaroks> ./BC -d , what is this command?
[00:31] <stiltzkin> fhsales, do you have the adapter plugged into your computer now?
[00:32] <amaroks> and also this command: /usr/sbin/dae
[00:33] <amaroks> and this also : ./sec -d
[00:33] <amaroks> any help?
[00:33] <meowsus> How big can tar.bz2 files be?
[00:33] <Athanasius> amaroks: I'd be a little worried about a rootkit
[00:33] <meowsus> Or, rule of thumb, when (if ever) should I split them?
[00:33] <fhsales> yes, i do.
[00:33] <Athanasius> amaroks: run "find / -iname sec"
[00:33] <L3top> I have to bail for a bit synner... what I would do is apt-get remove python-minimal python-httplib2; apt-get install reinstall python
[00:33] <L3top> to start with
[00:33] <synner> ok. will try
[00:33] <Halexander9000> Um, a little help here please? http://pastebin.com/V04WEPBG
[00:34] <L3top> you are probably gonna have other breaks in there
[00:34] <stiltzkin> fhsales, open up a terminal and if you can, give me the output of the command "lsusb" (on pastebin, etc)
[00:34] <L3top> python is pretty important as things go...
[00:34] <key2> hi
[00:34] <amaroks> Athanasius its looking.
[00:35] <digitalslave> anyone know why ubuntu wouldnt show an eSata drive? nothing in dmesg or fdisk but my bios does detect the drive. drive does blink while ubuntu loads.
[00:35] <synner> wow... here is the result python-dev : Depends: python (= 2.7.1-0ubuntu5) but 2.7.1-0ubuntu5.1 is to be installed
[00:36] <stiltzkin> digitalslave, from past experience I can tell you that different versions of Ubuntu give very different results for eSATA drives. You've tried starting the computer with the drive plugged in yes?
[00:36] <fhsales> stiltzkin whe i do that it only appears 4 lines
[00:36] <fhsales> Microsoft COrp
[00:36] <fhsales> Linux Foundation
[00:36] <digitalslave> stiltzkin, yeah and tried hotswap and upgraded my bios in hopes that may be it
[00:36] <fhsales> Realtek semicondutor
[00:37] <fhsales> Linux foundation 2.0
[00:37] <stiltzkin> digitalslave, do you have a physical eSATA card/adapter or is this a laptop with integrated eSATA or something like that?
[00:37] <digitalslave> stiltzkin, im going to try a live disk as well - downloading now
[00:37] <whatsphere> a
[00:38] <stiltzkin> fhsales, what else is displayed on that Realtek Semiconductor line
[00:38] <digitalslave> stiltzkin, asus pt6 deluxe version 2 with onboard eSata port
[00:38] <whatsphere> hey what is that: http://whatsphere.com/whatsphere4/ ?
[00:38] <amaroks> Athanasius: this server has 10s of openVZ containers, searching would take long time, any other way to find the path of the running script?
[00:39] <stiltzkin> digitalslave, yeah I can't offer much in the way of real advice, I've had a very hard time getting my eSATA drive working with my laptop as well. But I'm using a JMicron ExpressCard/eSATA adapter so I focused on getting that to work
[00:39] <bill2012> amazing...there's a page for *updating* from eol versions.....
[00:39] <fhsales> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0bda:8171 Realtek Semicondutor Corp.
[00:39] <stiltzkin> digitalslave, it seems that different kernels have widely varying levels of support
[00:39] <Athanasius> amaroks: I'm not sure. You might try "find /root /home /tmp /var/tmp -iname sec" just to search those folders
[00:40] <digitalslave> stiltzkin, thanks for attempting! figured this would make a nice backup to my raid setup but it's definitely starting to be a struggle
[00:41] <bill2012> (i bought a laptop with hoary installed--and it doesn't recognize my floppy)
[00:41] <stiltzkin> digitalslave, if I remember correctly it worked in 8.10 or so, stopped working in 9.x series, started working again in 10.04, and then it hasn't worked since haha. No rhyme or reason to it
[00:42] <bill2012> so i'm going to upgrade until i find a version that does, then do a fresh install\
[00:42] <bill2012> i have no other way to creatge boot media
[00:42] <digitalslave> stiltzkin, haha crap maybe i'll ride it out with USB2 for a while
[00:42] <stiltzkin> digitalslave, that's what I'm doing with my 1tb right now :/
[00:43] <amaroks> Athanasius any command to trace process IP ?
[00:43] <bill2012> but i need to know if i'm running a "-desktop" of ubuntu, and which one if i am.  how do i find out?
[00:43] <bill2012> "-desktop" version\
[00:44] <fhsales> stiltzkin (21:40:07) fhsales: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0bda:8171 Realtek Semicondutor Corp.
[00:44] <jrib> bill2012: why don't you just install the latest?
[00:44] <Frestorms> Is 75c like HOT for a duo core CPU
[00:45] <synner> Frestorms: yes
[00:45] <Jelou> Hi all! I've installed pureftpd and i noticed that if someone downloads (from me) a file, it takes all my upload bandwidth and i can't do anything with internet, is this normal?
[00:45] <Frestorms> it's beyone me, I've got nothing running for it to be that hot
[00:45] <bill2012> because i don't have any way to create a boot medium yet
[00:45] <jrib> Frestorms: check fans are not blowing air the wrong way :)
[00:46] <bill2012> once i'm upgraded far enough it'll recognize my floppy and THEN i install latgest
[00:46] <meowsus> When should I split a .tar.bz2 file? 4GB?
[00:47] <jrib> bill2012: not sure I understand.  Why not just install the latest?  It will be much much faster than upgrading
[00:47] <stiltzkin> fhsales, I can't find much information on your card, but it looks like it uses a Realtec rtl819x chip which should be supported in Ubuntu. I'm looking for more information on this.
[00:47] <bill2012> right.   but to do that i have to do a boot from something.  i have no boot media right now.
[00:47] <fhsales> stilzkin THANKS!
[00:47] <whisk> got a really wierd problem in ubuntu on ppc, colors are off in all SDL games and in the icons on fluxbox
[00:47] <jrib> bill2012: ah, you can't boot from cd?
[00:47] <bill2012> no cd
[00:48] <bill2012> just floppy
[00:48] <bill2012> and hoary doesn't see it
[00:48] <aguitel> i am in 10.04 ;network-manager applet icon have red line ,why?
[00:49] <Guest51924> hello, how can I mount my wifi dongle usb on ubuntu?
[00:49] <ghostnik11> hi, i am trying to load a .jsp site, called tickettoread.com
[00:49] <whisk> google the wifi dongle model number
[00:50] <ghostnik11> but it won't show any images after i sign in with my user info
[00:50] <stiltzkin> fhsales, try this process: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9125399&postcount=10
[00:50] <bill2012> so i'll just upgrade until i find a version that sees my floppy, create the boot media, and then i do a fresh install to latest
[00:50] <Guest51924> whisk : wl-167g from asus
[00:51] <ghostnik11> the site shows me that firefox 10 is not supported but that it supports firefox 3 and internet explorer 7, i loaded user agent and it pass system checks but still when i log in it doesn't work and i see no images
[00:51] <ghostnik11> I wanted to know how do i enable javascript in firefox
[00:52] <Jay_Levitt> I'm using Desktop Sharing for the first time, connecting to a fresh 11.10 desktop from my Mac via Chicken of the VNC.  I can control the Ubuntu box's desktop, all right, but all of the windows only open on the real monitor, not on my virtual desktop - which just shows the background, menu bar, etc..?
[00:53] <stiltzkin> ghostnik11, check edit -> preferences -> content -> enable javascript
[00:54] <ghostnik11> stiltzkin, it shows that its enabled, but yet when i log in to tickettoread.com with user name and password, it doesn't load any images
[00:54] <ghostnik11> stiltzkin, it worked before i used update manager to update to firefox 10
[00:55] <stiltzkin> ghostnik11, showing fine on my machine on Fx 10.0.02...maybe reinstall Firefox?
[00:55] <Guest51924> whisk  : whatnow? :)
[00:56] <ignoredthoughts> where in xchat do I set up an autoreply to NickServ for my identify?
[00:56] <ghostnik11> stiltzkin, will do a reinstall via synaptic and see if that solves the issue
[00:56] <stiltzkin> ghostnik11, make sure to do a "completely remove" of firefox first to purge any configs that may have been messed up
[00:56] <VisualAssassin> what is the best version of ubuntu that is not as laggy or buggy? any suggestions would be helpful
[00:57] <stiltzkin> ghostnik11, as one command you can do "sudo apt-get purge firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox"
[00:57] <capslock286> I use two keyboard layouts; swedish and Greek. Now, Greek is stuck on the log-in screen and it won't let me change layout. I cannot make any sudo-commands as I'm on my guest account on my own computer :-( Can anyone help?
[00:57] <ignoredthoughts> VisualAssassin, it depends on your comp
[00:57] <ignoredthoughts> VisualAssassin, what are you running on?
[00:57] <capslock286> I Use 12.04.
[00:58] <aguitel> i am in 10.04 ;network-manager applet icon say i am not connected but i am ,whay happens this?
[00:58] <ignoredthoughts> aguitel
[00:58] <ignoredthoughts> when you boot do you get
[00:58] <ignoredthoughts> Waiting for Network configuration?
[00:58] <ghostnik11> stiltzkin, synaptic is telling me if i do a complete removal it will install chromium automatically, but i don't want that, i need firefox because its for a little kindergartener, who in school is used to firefox
[00:58] <Haig_220> hello world :)
[00:58] <VisualAssassin> I am running on a celeron m with 1.5GBS
[00:58] <ignoredthoughts> VisualAssassin, what RAM?
[00:58] <stiltzkin> ghostnik11, don't use synaptic, just issue the purge and install commands
[00:59] <VisualAssassin> this machine used to have windows vista on it than i got rid of that an installed ubuntu 10.04 and I have upgraded to 11.04 i think but its a little laggy
[00:59] <VisualAssassin> i think it is ddr2, i upgraded a while ago and cant remember
[00:59] <capslock286> anyone that  has got a clue on how to solve layout problem on login?
[01:00] <bill2012> the instructions say, "If you run a -desktop version of ubuntu...." how do i tell if i am?
[01:00] <ghostnik11> stiltzkin, even running the commands via terminal still says chromium will be installed but will just do it, then run sudo apt-get install firefox after the purge even though chromium will be installed
[01:01] <fhsales> hey people
[01:01] <fhsales> i need some help
[01:01] <ignoredthoughts> does chromium still have a ton of mem leaks?
[01:01] <Athanasius> amaroks: Possibly, but I'm not sure how
[01:02] <Athanasius> I'm a little rusty on linux CLI
[01:02] <cordyceps> Audacious, the music player, won't let me edit the track info. Says I don't have permission. What to do?
[01:02] <ghostnik11> stiltzkin, okay command just finished in terminal will see if it works now
[01:03] <capslock286> problems with layout configuration at login. Anyone who would like to troubleshoot?
[01:03] <fhsales> hey people
[01:03] <fhsales> can someone help me?
[01:04] <Muelli> !anyone | fhsales
[01:04] <Muelli> cordyceps: well, maybe you don't have the permissions. You can probably edit them using the file manager
[01:05] <bill2012> the instructions say, "If you run a -desktop version of ubuntu...." how do i tell if i am?
[01:05] <ghostnik11> stiltzin, still doesn't work, will try chromium to see if the .jsp website will actually load
[01:05] <Muelli> bill2012: can you click stuff, then yes ;-)
[01:05] <krycom> there are several listings of wine in ubuntu software center,  If I want to run World of Warcraft,  which one should I download?
[01:05] <Muelli> capslock286: hm. What exactly are "layout problems"?
[01:06] <bill2012> heh.  well, actually, i still need to know *which* -desktop version
[01:06] <mayko> Hi all; I'm running lubuntu 11.10 on a dell inspiron. Sometime in the last day, my microphone has stopped working. I've run through the obvious things, played with alsamixer and pavucontrol, reinstalled the OS, cleaned the plug in case it had clear nailpolish on it... no good. Here is the alsa report, which I understand may be useful. Halp? http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=306da35832559ecef3fa9c71022caa96728fbc09
[01:06] <capslock286> I'm stuck on Greek layout at login and cannot change it even with sudo commands as my keyboard layout in is stuck on Greek alhabet, which is different than latin.
[01:06] <Muelli> I don't know krycom, but I'd just the most appealing one and try. I don't think you can mess things up with that.
[01:06] <Muelli> bill2012: lsb_release -a or so.
[01:06] <cordyceps> Muelli: these are mp3s, the file manager give the correct title, but the so-called track info is differnt. How do I give myself permission please?
[01:07] <Muelli> cordyceps: hm. Can't you right click the file in the file manager and then edit permissions?
[01:07] <Muelli> capslock286: you mean during login you have a greek keyboard layout? I.e. you can't enter your password correctly/
[01:07] <fhsales> does anybody knows how to configure wireless connection on ubuntu 10.04?
[01:07] <Zaitzev> I just installed apache2, haven't touched any configurations yet, what do I need to do to make the server accessible from WAN?
[01:08] <Muelli> fhsales: yes.
[01:08] <Muelli> Zaitzev: that should be it.
[01:08] <capslock286> Muelli: That's correct.
[01:08] <Zaitzev> Muelli: Apparently it's not working
[01:08] <Muelli> Zaitzev: you can check with "netstat -tulpen" on which interfaces apache is listening.
[01:08] <Muelli> Zaitzev: how do you know it's not working?
[01:09] <Muelli> capslock286: hm. And do you know whether you use GDM or lightdm?
[01:09] <fhsales> Muelli: i worked it out some commands to make ubuntu recognize my usb wireless adapter. it seemed to work. In the end it says device is not ready.what should i do now?
[01:09] <Muelli> capslock286: at least GDM should support switching the layout. I don't know about lightdm. But I'd consider it a bug if it didn't
[01:09] <Zaitzev> hm
[01:09] <Zaitzev> nvm
[01:09] <capslock286> Muelli: I use te standard login sceen manager in 12.04
[01:09] <bill2012> it just tells me that i'm running hoary....which i already knew.
[01:09] <Muelli> fhsales: who says "device not ready"?
[01:09] <synner> so, i got a quick question about ubuntu
[01:09] <ztag100> What programs can I use for widgets on my desktop?
[01:09] <synner> somehow, python kinda broke apt-get
[01:10] <cordyceps> I've got permission, their in Music. The titles in the file mgr are correct. BUT when I right click the audacious line, the so called track-into is incorrect. It's editable but I can't save it.
[01:10] <ztag100> I've been using conky but its not as nice as I thought
[01:10] <Muelli> capslock286: oh, then #ubuntu+1 is probably the appropriate channel
[01:10] <ghostnik11> how can i download firefox 9 or 8 for ubuntu because firefox 10 won't let my kindergartener go on her tickettoread.com website to do her work
[01:10] <capslock286> muelli: thanks,
[01:10] <cordyceps> *track info
[01:10] <benois> Look at this:
[01:10] <benois> "asa victim of male circumcisio nand male genital mutilation thsis whoel god dman coutnry its goverments and its relgions can literall ycrumble into hell and rot for all i care"
[01:11] <Muelli> ghostnik11: you can check available versions with "apt-cache policy firefox". I doubt an older version will be available though.
[01:11] <fhsales> Muelli, in the top right corner of my desktop there is a connection icon. when i put my mouse on it, it appears wireless networks: device  not ready
[01:11] <cordyceps> benois: ot
[01:11] <Muelli> fhsales: hm. Do you know what chip is in the device? I.e is that something weird like Broadcom?
[01:11] <synner> so? no clue regarding python with natty updates?
[01:11] <benois> That's what male circumcision can do a man's psyche.
[01:11] <Muelli> cordyceps: how do you know that you've got permissinos?
[01:12] <Muelli> !details | synner
[01:12] <cordyceps> the usual way ls -l
[01:12] <Muelli> cordyceps: and what does it say on the file in question?
[01:12] <ghostnik11> Muelli, yeah i did the command in terminal and it only shows firefox 10, but firefox 10 is the problem, because on chromium the site works when i put in her login info, but in ff10 it doesn't load anything after she puts in her login info
[01:13] <fhsales> muelli Realtek 8192 SU chipset
[01:13] <ghostnik11> Muelli, i wish i never updated to this new ff10
[01:13] <fhsales> Muelli Realtek 8192SU chipset
[01:13] <Erealz> hey guys i was just wondering what software package controls screen brightness?
[01:13] <hiexpo> hola ubuntu
[01:13] <Muelli> ghostnik11: well. I think you have to somehow get an older version then. Can't really help with that. Compiling it on your own is very tough.
[01:14] <Muelli> !info xbacklight | Erealz
[01:14]  * cordyceps backing out the door, guns blazing...
[01:14] <Pseudonym113> #ANONYMOUS
[01:14] <hiexpo> Erealz, F3
[01:15] <Muelli> fhsales: hm. I think that should work then. So what I'd do, is to pull the stick out, reboot, do a dmesg -c, plug it in, and pastebin the result of a new "dmesg -c"
[01:15] <ghostnik11> Muelli, the thing is i think its closed because when i do a search in google i only get firefox 10 versions
[01:15] <mayko> bump for a missing mic?
[01:16] <grid_bug> what package provides /usr/bin/phonet-at ?
[01:16] <mbai> What is the x window system I want to run to get a bare xserver with nothing in it?
[01:16] <Muelli> ghostnik11: well. What can I say? If you're not able to find an old version, there's probably little we can do for you. I don't know where to get firefox support from.
[01:16] <sgo11> hi, after every reboot, the /etc/resolv.conf becomes empty. I have to give nameserver manually. my current interfaces setup: http://pastebin.com/4GuVFJ8V  what is the problem? thanks.
[01:16] <fhsales> Muelli, dmesg -c is a command i should put in the terminal? and what is pastebin? i never used ubuntu before.:)
[01:16] <Muelli> ghostnik11: but well, it's probably a bug in firefox if it used to work but doesn't anymore. So feel free to file that.
[01:16] <whatsphere> liked it : http://whatsphere.com/whatsphere4/
[01:16] <Muelli> !pastebin | fhsales
[01:17] <Muelli> fhsales: yes, dmesg -c is a terminal command. Ctrl+Alt+T should give you a terminal.
[01:17] <bill2012> sgoll:  sounds like dhcp is rewriting it
[01:17] <ghostnik11> Muelli, cool i will i will have to tell her to use chromium but it takes away from what she is used to in her computer lab
[01:17] <fhsales> Muelli, it says Operation not permitted
[01:17] <Muelli> grid_bug: check packages.ubuntu.com
[01:17] <Muelli> fhsales: unplug, reboot, sudo dmesg -c, plug in, sudo dmesg -c
[01:18] <synner> sure: I am running natty. After running apt-get update/upgrade, i received an error about python dev, requiring 2.7.1-ubuntu5 but python_2.7.1-ubuntu5.1 is installed
[01:18] <synner> when i install it, i get the error _struct is not defined
[01:18] <Muelli> synner: can you pastebin us the full output?
[01:18] <synner> of course
[01:19] <sgo11> bill2012, just saw your reply. so how to solve this problem? I have two PCs with the same ubuntu release 11.10. another one does not have this problem, but that one is using dhcp instead of static ip address. by the way, my nick is one one not ll. thanks.
[01:19] <amaroks> Hello:::::: Massive packet loss when server doesnt have DDoS attack and server load is just fine what it measn? network issue?
[01:19] <synner> here is the output: http://pastebin.com/mpRAfEuy
[01:19] <synner> i really appreciate it, i am out of ideas
[01:20] <Halexander9000> Um, a little help here please? http://pastebin.com/3SSdCiTF
[01:20] <Muelli> synner: can you fully quote your shell please, i.e. including the command you've run
[01:20] <haylo> why cant i get voice on ##linux ??
[01:20] <bill2012> oops sorry... anyway, i know unix, not ubuntu, so i can't help beyond that
[01:20] <Muelli> synner: just like Halexander9000 just did it. Very well done :
[01:20] <Muelli> )
[01:20] <norc> http://pastie.org/3492862  << this is my /etc/init/openvpn.conf
[01:21] <Halexander9000> Muelli: What did I just do?
[01:21] <Muelli> synner: hm. looks like it's b0rken. Try a apt-get update
[01:21] <sgo11> another problem is the network settings, all options are grayed out. I can not edit it for my card. why?
[01:21] <norc> When I type service openvpn start, it hangs (stdin still seems to work) - the status of the service is running, but the exec command is never executed.
[01:21] <Muelli> Halexander9000: you pasted a nice shell quote :)
[01:21] <norc> Can somebody point me in the right direction here?
[01:21] <fhsales> Muelli
[01:21] <synner> i tried apt-get update
[01:21] <norc> (Already send HUP to init with kill in case the inotify interface didnt work properly to let know about the file)
[01:21] <Halexander9000> Muelli: Thank you.
[01:22] <amaroks> guysss, what is this command: /usr/sbin/dae
[01:22] <Muelli> Halexander9000: FWIW: you can use GNOME-Shell to record your desktop (with Ctrl+Alt+Shift+R IIRC) or Istanbul.
[01:22] <fhsales> Muelli i have done that. i dont understand a thing it is written, but it appears in the end the OS is trying to download the firmware.but i do not have internet on that computer.
[01:22] <synner> i also tried manually installing packages (dpkg -i). I also tried installing/reinstalling. I also did apt-get -f install
[01:22] <Muelli> synner: can you pastebin us the (full!) output of apt-get update?
[01:22] <synner> sure
[01:22] <Halexander9000> Muelli: What what?
[01:22] <Muelli> fhsales: well. bad then.
[01:23] <Muelli> Halexander9000: you try to record your screen, no? And it fails. I've just mentioned alternatives to ffmpeg's screenrecord.
[01:23] <norc> http://pastie.org/3492862  << this is my /etc/init/openvpn.conf - when I try to start the service via `service openvpn start' it hangs, the exec command is never executed. But upstart *thinks* the process is running. Already tried `kill -HUP 1' with no luck
[01:23] <MrKeuner> hello, gnome-launchers cannot trigger firefox, how can I make them do that
[01:23] <norc> errrr
[01:23] <norc> whops, sorry for reposting.
[01:23] <mayko> bump - can anyone help me get my microphone working? It's important since my computer is my phone :o
[01:24] <Halexander9000> Muelli: ffmpeg is the alternative here, and I'm trying to make is work.
[01:24] <Halexander9000> Muelli: My machine, in case you're wondering is an ASUS EEE PC 904HD from 2008.
[01:24] <Muelli> Halexander9000: sorry. I don't know anything about that. I used istanbul or GNOME-shell and it used to just work.
[01:24] <Halexander9000> Muelli: I used the gtk-recordmydesktop to record a gaming session on a 640 by 480 screen with stereo audio in an .ogv file.
[01:24] <MrKeuner> They were triggering chromium when it was installed
[01:24] <synner> Muelli: full apt-get update / install : http://pastebin.com/n7TEuKBN
[01:24] <Halexander9000> Muelli: That file plays just fine, and it uploads and plays on youtube just as well.
[01:24] <JosephHarrietha>  Do I have to escape the space in the if statement here:  if [ -e "$cydiaPath/Sections/bAd *" ]
[01:24] <Muelli> mayko: hm. maybe check pa-prefs and alsamixer.
[01:24] <MrKeuner> what's wrong with my firefox installation?
[01:24] <Halexander9000> Muelli: But when I try to edit it, Kdenlive and OpenShot, both don't even play the file properly in the preview window, much less render it without artifacts. Same thing happens when I try to convert it.
[01:24] <JosephHarrietha>  Its checking if a file with bAd(space)* exists, is it correct how i've done it?
[01:25] <Muelli> oh, okay Halexander9000. Sorry. No idea.
[01:25] <orlok> Halexander9000: Hah, i use an eee901!
[01:25] <sgo11> anyone any ideas? network settings are not editable. DNS gets reset to empty in every reboot. ubuntu 11.10. use static ip with the configuration of interfaces file. thanks.
[01:25] <Halexander9000> Muelli: That's why I'm trying ffmpeg. I've been recompiling and unmaking all day long for the past two days.  When I open pulseaudio the mic is unmuted, but even when turned all the way up the levels bar is dead.
[01:25] <Halexander9000> orlok: Can you record your own desktop and edit the resulting video file?
[01:26] <Muelli> jep JosephHarrietha. Bonuspoints if you do smth like "${variable}/ ..."
[01:26] <mayko> ed: when I open pavucontrol
[01:26] <norc> sgo11: It sounds like some unwanted process is "hijacking" your configuration files and changing them back. Which filesystem are you using?
[01:26] <orlok> Halexander9000: I would not try...
[01:26] <Muelli> mayko: and you plugged the mic in? ;-)
[01:26] <rattatoue> sgo11, did you set the dns in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[01:26] <Muelli> sgo11: well. You probably run NetworkManager, no? I guess it overwrites that stuff for you.
[01:27] <Halexander9000> orlok: You have an SSD right? I have a 160 HDD but I doubt the hardware differs in any other aspect. So why not?
[01:27] <mayko> Muelli: the microphone is plugged in, in the mic hole, and unmuted.
[01:27] <norc> Muelli: It shouldnt.
[01:27] <sgo11> norc, ext4. I don't really agree that. I think it's networkmanager problem.
[01:27] <stiltzkin> fhsales, any luck with that card?
[01:27] <norc> sgo11: Want an overkill workaround?
[01:27] <Muelli> !sound | mayko
[01:27] <sgo11> rattatoue, inside that file, it says "# Generated by NetworkManager". I edited it. then reboot. become empty.
[01:28] <sgo11> norc, not really. I think it's network manager problem.
[01:28] <rattatoue> sgo11, you could turn off the write permission of that file once you have it set, that way nothing could change it
[01:28] <sgo11> Muelli, I think I run networkmanager.
[01:28] <fhsales> stiltzkin it says device not ready
[01:28] <Muelli> sgo11: yeah, it's the default. So configure NetworkManager then, I'd say
[01:28] <JosephHarrietha> Muelli, Heh, thank you
[01:29] <norc> sgo11: Well, I'd write what I need into the file, mark it as immutable, kick back and watch a movie.
[01:29] <sgo11> rattatoue, it's a workaround. I can do that. but it doesn't really solve the problem.
[01:29] <norc> sgo11: Note, *that* is overkill though. ;)
[01:29] <tazjin> Is it possible to change the menu bar at the top to always show the different menus?
[01:29] <norc> rattatoue: That wont be enough.
[01:29] <Muelli> hm synner. Looks like your installation goes mad. What does apt-cache policy python{,-minimal} say?
[01:29] <tazjin> I find it a bit confusing to have to hover over them first
[01:29] <norc> rattatoue: You need to mark it immutable, because applications can and sometimes even do adapt file permissions in order to change that. Since he uses ext4 which supports immutable - that'd be the way to do it.
[01:29] <Muelli> !networkmanager | sgo11
[01:29] <sgo11> Muelli, how to configure networkmanager? in the panel --> network settings, every option is grayed out. in nm-nework-editor, the edit buttion is grayed out.
[01:30] <sgo11> Muelli, is that because I edit interfaces file by root for static IP?
[01:30] <rattatoue> norc, I have used the file permissions way without any problem even on ext4. When I had the same prob he is having. So yes it does work.
[01:30] <Muelli> yeah sgo11, probably because it somehow thinks it's a managed interface. Probably because you messed around with it
[01:31] <Halexander9000> Guys, is orlok really dead?
[01:31] <synner> here is the output ofthe apt-cache: http://pastebin.com/uzH8VZNY
[01:31] <krycek> who?
[01:31] <Muelli> sgo11: maybe check files in /etc/NetworkManager/ whether they look alright. If you're keen, you can also try to reset NetworkManager configuration, i.e. with smth like dpkg-reconfigure -p low networkmanager or so. Don't know really how to do it.
[01:31] <sgo11> well. I think I will try something. will get offline for now. back later. thanks.
[01:31] <norc> So, does anyone have any idea for my upstart problem?
[01:32] <sgo11> Muelli, ok. let me try something first. will be back soon. :)
[01:32] <krycek> sudo rm -rf /tptb
[01:32] <Muelli> hm synner. What does "apt-get install --reinstall python python-minimal" give you?
[01:33] <synner> Muelli: http://pastebin.com/sQJsMqda
[01:34] <mayko> Muelli: I have been through most of these already. I've played with alsa, editted the alsa config file,  pavucontrol, reinstalled pulseaudio, reinstalled the os. Here is my alsa report if it helps: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=306da35832559ecef3fa9c71022caa96728fbc09
[01:34] <Muelli> well mayko. Has the mic ever worked?
[01:35] <Muelli> hm synner. Interesting how you managed to screw that up ;-) Lemme think...
[01:35] <mayko> Yes. it abruptly stopped sometime yesterday.
[01:35] <Muelli> eh, synnern. WTF? Why do you have stuff in /usr/local/?!
[01:35] <Muelli> synner: ^^
[01:36] <synner> i am in /usr/local because i wanted to make sure that python is a symlink to python2.7
[01:36] <synner> i dont mind moving to /home/myUser
[01:36] <Muelli> hm mayko. weird then. If you've checked everything, including alsamixer and pavucontrol and pa-prefs, I am out of ideas, sorry.
[01:36] <mayko> ok thanx
[01:36] <Muelli> synner: yes. please. Do you remember having done smth similar/
[01:37] <whatsphere> http://whatsphere.com/whatsphere4/
[01:37] <Muelli> may I suspect that to be SPAM?
[01:37] <synner> i did it this morning. i had the apt-get GUI
[01:37] <synner> and i clicked yes
[01:37] <synner> not even command line or anything
[01:38] <key2> http://whatsphere.com/whatsphere4 http://whatsphere.com/whatsphere4/
[01:38] <key2> oops
[01:38] <key2> wrong channel
[01:38] <fhsales> Muelli are you still there? here is the pastebin from before i put the usb wireless http://paste.ubuntu.com/862799/
[01:38] <rattatoue> synner, check in /usr/local/bin/ and see if there is a python executable in there or not. Please.
[01:38] <Muelli> fhsales: after you've plugged it in is more important ;-)
[01:38] <Muelli> well synner. please move all /usr/local out of the way for now.
[01:39] <synner> rattatoue: There is one
[01:39] <synner> so, i should move it?
[01:39] <Muelli> synner: yes. everything.
[01:39] <krycek> if you type 420 in google as he is your friend you will find it out
[01:39] <rattatoue> synner, just temporary rename it to something else
[01:39] <synner> done
[01:39] <fhsales> ok
[01:39] <fhsales> Muelli here is the after http://paste.ubuntu.com/862802/
[01:39] <Raymond_> g++-4.4 is dependant on libstdc++6-4.4-dev and vis versa
[01:39] <fhsales> ^^.
[01:39] <krycek> oO
[01:40] <krycek> sudo -i guys meh!
[01:40] <Muelli> synner: so do a apt-get install -f :)
[01:40] <rattatoue> synner, now run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:40] <krycek> rm -rf /me
[01:40] <Raymond_> and niether will install
[01:40] <Raymond_> neither
[01:41] <synner> Wow
[01:41] <synner> it solved it
[01:41] <Muelli> well synner.  We solved it ;-)
[01:41] <synner> how come?
[01:41] <synner> how could i have it in there?
[01:42] <rattatoue> synner, im curious which command? mine or muellis
[01:42] <Muelli> synner: because you put stuff in /usr/local/
[01:42] <synner> Rattatoue: yours
[01:42] <Muelli> fhsales: can you pastebin us "apt-cache policy linux-firmware" and "dpkg --listfiles linux-firmware"?
[01:42] <rattatoue> synner, glad you got it working. This way for furture reference.
[01:43] <fhsales> Muelli, i will go out now, but i will be back in a few minutes.
[01:43] <synner> wow
[01:43] <synner> thanks
[01:43] <rattatoue> synner, no problem. I write python scripts too. So I know errors like that can be pains
[01:43] <Muelli> fhsales: well. You need to have this package installed. If you haven't, get it from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/all/linux-firmware/download
[01:43] <Raymond_> g++-4.4 is dependant on libstdc++6-4.4-dev and vis versa and neither will install
[01:43] <krnl> i login to the server as root, and try to change user with "su foo". ~/.profile of user foo is not read. how can check what can be the error?
[01:43] <Muelli> !details | Raymond_
[01:44] <Raymond_> 10.04 LTS
[01:44] <Raymond_> lucid
[01:44] <Muelli> !enter | Raymond_
[01:44] <Muelli> krnl: does that happen with "sudo -i" or "sudo -s", too?
[01:45] <Raymond_> Muelli, g++-4.4 is dependant on libstdc++6-4.4-dev and vis versa and neither will install, i am using 10.04 LTS
[01:45] <hiexpo> :)
[01:46] <Muelli> sorry Raymond_. But that's not detailed at all. Again: What are you doing, what happens and what have you expected instead
[01:46] <hiexpo> :0
[01:46] <krnl> Muelli: i try to change to user "foo" and not *do* something with it. i would like to use su instead of su. or did i misunderstand you? "su -s foo" says "Cannot execute foo: No such.."
[01:46] <tazjin> Does anybody know which apt-get package has the largest dependency tree?
[01:46] <krnl> and invalid option for "-i"
[01:46] <Muelli> krnl: "sudo -s -u foo" and "sudo -i -u foo'
[01:46] <Raymond_> muelli, both programs are dependent on each other and will not install
[01:47] <Muelli> sorry Raymond_. But that's not detailed at all. Again: What are you doing, what happens and what have you expected instead
[01:47] <Raymond_> muelli, are you a bot?
[01:47]  * krycek 420!!!
[01:47] <krnl> Muelli: with "-i" it works, thanks a lot!
[01:48] <hiexpo> what sudo su
[01:48] <Muelli> :) no krnl
[01:48] <sgo11> Muelli, rattatoue, norc,  just FYI. I have solved the network problem. The problem is basically caused by editing /etc/network/interfaces file by me/root manually. NetworkManager can not edit the interfaecs file. so everything in NetworkManager is grayed out and it can not set DNS properly. what I did is: (1) remove all configs about eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces with sudo (2) reboot and re-configure eth0 by using NetworkManager interface. it will save this
[01:48] <sgo11> config in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections. after then, everything works fine.
[01:48] <krycek> sudo -i then exit then sudo -i then exit then sudo -i
[01:48] <Muelli> sgo11: :) As I've said.
[01:48] <rattatoue> sgo11, glad it all works!
[01:48] <sgo11> Muelli, rattatoue thanks. ^_^
[01:49] <kaen> My toshiba laptop overheats like crazy, happens in 11.10 and 12.04, but not windows. It seems this a known bug but I can't find a solution. Can someone point me to a starting place?
[01:50] <Raymond_> muelli, both .deb programs are dependent on each other and the dependency recommendation is the other program for both programs
[01:50] <Omni|Work> The bugzilla4 package is available for Natty. I've installed it. But I can't find anything about it on packages.ubuntu.com
[01:51] <kaen> dpkg -i --force-install foo.deb bar.deb
[01:51] <Raymond_> both .deb programs are dependent on each other and the dependency recommendation is the other program for both programs
[01:51] <kaen> Worked in the past for me
[01:52] <sponix> want to ensure that my HD is named the same /dev/sda each time on boot. Seems my machine randomly assigns it either sda or sdf, this makes for issues with mapping raw devices for VirtualBox (Solaris ZFS Raidz) ... Fun times
[01:52] <norc> Raymond_: It's called a circular dependency and shouldn't happen. Report it as a bug.
[01:52] <Muelli> sponix: check udev rules.
[01:52] <Raymond_> norc, thx
[01:53] <norc> Raymond_: although I wonder, which is the current stable version in ubuntu of gcc?
[01:53] <sponix> Muelli: I know nothing of udev rules, take it you are saying that is what I need to research to force the device naming ?
[01:54] <Raymond_> norc, i downloaded from packages.ubuntu.com the one for lucid
[01:54] <norc> Raymond_: ..........
[01:54] <norc> Raymond_: How are you installing this?
[01:54] <kaen> lol
[01:54] <Raymond_> norc, its a .deb
[01:54] <Muelli> sponix: yes. Although I'm quite surprised that udev gives you random names. I though we were past this.. So yeah, check /etc/udev/rules.d/, there will probably be rules which assign names to devices
[01:54] <norc> Raymond_: What's wrong with apt-get?
[01:54] <norc> Raymond_: It handles all the dependencies like magic.
[01:54] <Raymond_> norc, no internet connection
[01:54] <norc> Raymond_: Give me a second
[01:55] <Raymond_> norc, i am installing ndiswrapper
[01:55] <trism> Omni|Work: you must have adding a ppa for it, possibly related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bugzilla/+bug/919628 (see comment #1)
[01:55] <takumi> is there a way to open accdb files with openoffice on ubuntu? anyone know anything?
[01:55] <Omni|Work> I've installed the package 'bugzilla4' on my Ubuntu natty system, but I can't find any information about it on packages.ubuntu.com
[01:55] <norc> Raymond_: There's a tool for you, give me a sec
[01:56] <Omni|Work> trism: Thanks.
[01:57] <Omni|Work> That explains it. :-/
[01:57] <norc> Raymond_: Obviously there's the possibility to install from CD repositories, but there's a neater package that produces shell scripts that download the packages required, which you can put on an USB drive, execute on another machine, plug the USB drive into your old machine, and it will use that as a repository.
[01:57]  * norc has to remember its name
[01:58] <norc> Raymond_: apt-zip
[01:58] <GaryDev> Linux noobie looking for some advice on creating a script to run at boot time. I have a custom program that I run with "./cdserv foldername &" .. it basically runs a server application that listens on a port, and since they are started in putty, it needs the & to tell it to keep running after putty closes.
[01:59] <norc> GaryDev: can you be more specific with 'boot time' ?
[01:59] <GaryDev> I have the script made in init.d and I can run it... and it does "run" the software, but I can't exit putty and keep it running...
[02:00] <Raymond_> norc, thankyou
[02:00] <christinepea777> what is the syntax for using the --exclude flag in tar?
[02:00] <takumi> is there a way to open accdb files with openoffice on ubuntu? anyone know anything?
[02:00] <norc> GaryDev: Use upstart.
[02:00] <norc> GaryDev: and ignore init.d
[02:00] <GaryDev> we run an old msn zone type server.. game lobbies for playing crimson skies etc...
[02:00] <GaryDev> upstart? sorry, never heard of that.. (my bad...)
[02:01] <norc> GaryDev: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[02:01] <norc> GaryDev: It's what you want. :)
[02:01] <norc> and its much easier and comfortable to use and less convoluted than the alternatives
[02:01] <GaryDev> I will look at it, thanks kindly for the advice
[02:02] <GaryDev> like I say, I can run the script.. but it seems to ignore the & part, so when I exit, the software also stops
[02:03] <GaryDev> and of course, the server has no GUI part to it...
[02:03] <takumi> is there a way to open accdb files with openoffice on ubuntu? anyone know anything?
[02:05] <norc> takumi: No luck if you want to use the native openoffice afaik.
[02:05] <norc> *native linux openoffice
[02:07] <norc> takumi: Reason is you need some proprietary software from Microsoft to open them, which only work on windows and are proprietary/closed source
[02:07] <takumi> i have libre office but accdb isnt an option...
[02:07] <GaryDev> noroc... reading the docs and stuff. I don't want to change any of the ubuntu LTS starting items, do I *have* to change everything to work with upstart, or can I just use it to start our lobby software at boot time?
[02:07] <takumi> i was able to open it on my windows pc with openoffce before i installed access
[02:09] <norc> takumi: Yes, because you probably have the right drivers installed
[02:09] <norc> takumi: specifically these: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=23734
[02:09] <norc> takumi: You could try wine + OpenOffice + that driver package.
[02:10]  * krycek lights it ### ###### ######### ## ####
[02:11] <bitjix> sup all. would anyone be able to tell me what version of python comes ported on the latest version of ubuntu? i'm running 10.04 LTS, and I'm curious as to when the switch Python 3.x occur
[02:11] <MrKeuner> hello, when chromium installed xdg-open mygnomedesktoplauncher.desktop opened in chromium, when uninstalled chromium xdg-open mygnomedesktoplauncher.desktop does not open the url in launcher file in firefox. how can I fix that?
[02:12] <norc> MrKeuner: err. what?
[02:12] <norc> bitjix: embrace http://packages.ubuntu.com/ :)
[02:13] <MrKeuner> norc, familiar with xdg-open?
[02:13] <norc> MrKeuner: Yes.
[02:13] <MrKeuner> norc, where can I set what url handler it uses?
[02:14] <MrKeuner> norc, I'd like gnome launchers tirh url location to launch in firefox
[02:14] <MrKeuner> s/tirh/with
[02:14] <norc> MrKeuner: Look at xdg-open to see what it does.
[02:15] <norc> MrKeuner: But IIRC its an environment variable $BROWSER
[02:16] <norc> MrKeuner: ah well thats ugly. apparently you should simply use update-alternatives
[02:16] <MrKeuner> norc, x-www-browser?
[02:16] <norc> MrKeuner: yes
[02:17] <bitjix> i see that packages for python 3 and 2 are available. but which one will be default?
[02:18] <MrKeuner> norc, set that one already, also gnome-www-browser
[02:18] <norc> bitjix: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python&searchon=names&suite=oneiric&section=all
[02:18] <MrKeuner> norc, does not help
[02:18] <norc> bitjix: Its pretty obvious.
[02:19] <bitjix> norc: ahh. sorry i didn't see the "default version" in the description
[02:19] <bitjix> thanks though
[02:19] <norc> MrKeuner: mhm, they use different mechanics then, just try the $BROWSER environment variable - I believe thats what xdg-open uses
[02:19] <MrKeuner> norc, http://pastebin.com/asWRy87h this is the launcher file I am trying to open
[02:20] <norc> bitjix: for a more generic overview across distribution versions, just use `any' rather than `oneiric' like I did: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[02:20] <MrKeuner> export BROWSER="/usr/bin/firefox"; xdg-open test.desktop still opens in gedit instead of firefox
[02:21] <GaryDev> norc: I tried to grab upstart using webmin, but apparently it is already installed in the distro from the ISP... no clue where it is or how to use it.. looking at the 'cookbook'
[02:21] <norc> GaryDev: upstart is one of the core components of ubuntu :)
[02:22] <GaryDev> there ya go... sucks being a linux noobie
[02:23] <MrKeuner> norc, xdg-open "http://www.google.com" open in firefox, xdg-open mylauncher.desktop does not
[02:23] <norc> MrKeuner: That's MIME specific for the mylauncher.desktop file then
[02:23] <norc> MrKeuner: Sorry didn't read carefully.
[02:24] <MrKeuner> norc, can you elaborate a bit more?
[02:24] <GaryDev> this is too complex... *screams*
[02:24] <norc> GaryDev: Well it's extremely powerful. But to get an idea, just open /etc/init/cron.conf
[02:25] <norc> GaryDev: That's what a very simplistic job looks like, which can be manually started and stopped via `service cron start' or `service cron stop' << cron is deduced from the filename /etc/init/cron.conf
[02:26] <norc> GaryDev: In all likelihood that's what your service should look like (except `exec cron' will be `exec command-to-be-executed' in your case) if you don't need any of the fancy facilities that upstart has to offer
[02:27] <MrKeuner> is there a standard for url launchers in ubuntu?
[02:27] <norc> MrKeuner: give me a second
[02:28] <GaryDev> norc: I used to be a wiz in dos and cp/m... I could never grasp linux. Most of my problem comes from not knowing just the simple basics. These things you talk about, you know... and are totally greek to me. ... but I will look at the files you said, and see if I can make sense of them
[02:29] <norc> MrKeuner: /usr/share/applications (or ~/.local/share/applications) contains the file associations that xdg-open uses
[02:29] <norc> (if it's not an URL)
[02:30] <norc> GaryDev: the /etc/init/cron.conf is extremely simple :)
[02:30] <MrKeuner> norc, /usr/share/applications/defaults.list?
[02:30] <norc> MrKeuner: for example.
[02:31] <thelodger> Hey all, just noticed that sending a running apt-get upgrade to background using ctrl-z makes it stop. Is it planned that way? I'm on Maverick btw
[02:31] <MrKeuner> norc, what sort of line should I be looking in there? text/html?
[02:32] <tensorpudding> thelodger, ^z suspends the process
[02:32] <GaryDev> simple... if you understand it. :(
[02:32] <norc> MrKeuner: check your /etc/mime.types to see
[02:32] <tensorpudding> it doesn't background it
[02:32] <MrKeuner> norc, for this file... http://pastebin.com/asWRy87h
[02:32] <norc> MrKeuner: or more generally xdg-mime
[02:32] <tensorpudding> thelodger, if you want to background it, run bg %<job> where <job> is the number of the job
[02:33] <tensorpudding> thelodger, you can see running jobs with the jobs command
[02:33] <norc> MrKeuner: coincidentally xdg-mime can also set the default application
[02:33] <norc> (for a mimetype)
[02:33] <fhsales> Does anybody understands on configuring wireless networks?
[02:34] <tensorpudding> thelodger, conversely you can foreground it with fg %<job>, or disown it (separating it completely from the shell) by disown %<job>
[02:34] <fachex> hello Ufellows!
[02:34] <norc> GaryDev: What part about it dont you understand?
[02:34] <tensorpudding> thelodger, does that make sense?
[02:35] <thelodger> tensorpudding, Doh! Thanks for that, for some reason I thought ^z sent it to the background while still running =/ Shows how much I use it =)
[02:36] <sgo11> hi, how can I convert .ttc to .ttf? thanks.
[02:36] <GaryDev> everything. I'm frustrated beyond belief. I've been programming and fixing and building computers for 30 years. I've never HAD to deal with linux until now... I just want to start something and have it run in the background at boot time
[02:36] <fachex> I can't believe what just happened to me. I really need your help. I was installing U. 11.10 and chose the option "updgrade from 11.04", the installation got stuck (all the files were copied) on the keyboard selection. I had not other choice but to force power off, now I have a guess account but NONE of my previous files are there. Help!!! where would they be?
[02:36] <awww> Is anyone by any chance familiar with a bug like this: http://i.imgur.com/19nWL.png   <--- This affect all user account. This problem appeared ever since I installed pidgin-libnotify   and it's dependency, hours later, I come back to find my unity tray all messed up.
[02:37] <krycek> linux is tha shiz!@# sorry to hear that you have deal with linux :( gl
[02:38] <krycek> oh
[02:38] <krycek> tha is the me lol
[02:38] <awww> GaryDev: Why Linux? o_O
[02:39] <krycek> GaryDev: was it microsoft you where working on before linux was dropped in your lap?
[02:39] <GaryDev> linux runs our game lobby servers...
[02:39] <krycek> cool
[02:39] <sgo11> fachex, this may not be a good suggestion. I am newbie too. maybe you can try sudo apt-get -f install # while internet connected.
[02:39] <MrKeuner> GaryDev, you cannot motivate people here to help you getting angry with their toys
[02:39] <norc> GaryDev: description should be obvious. start on/stop on defines which runlevel it starts and stops at (for a normal ubuntu user runlevel 2 means running system), expect fork tells upstart that the process will be forked (into a new process), respawn will make sure the process will respawn if it dies, and exec defines the command to be started.
[02:39] <krycek> and you drift the servers?
[02:39] <GaryDev> ya.. I do a lot in VB and C/C++ and some dot net applications
[02:40] <fachex> sgo11, what would that do?
[02:40] <fachex> please, please don't tell me I lost my files
[02:40] <awww> Does unity 5 need to use a specific upgraded kernel to use before upgrading to unity 5?
[02:41] <sgo11> fachex, -f just fix broken dependencies. if there is a broken dependencies, it will install from online repo.
[02:41] <krycek> fachex: you lost your files ;(
[02:41] <norc> fachex: What filesystem are you using?
[02:41] <awww> -.-
[02:41] <fachex> norc whatever U11.10 uses by defoult
[02:41] <fachex> default
[02:42] <fachex> they should be somewhere
[02:42] <norc> fachex: that should be some ext3 or ext4, which use a journal. a mere power-off will not have damaged your filesystem in any way.
[02:42] <sgo11> fachex, you'd better check if your home directories etc... still there or not. you may need to mount harddrive manually....
[02:42] <GaryDev> when I login to putty, I do a "cd /opt3/dbsservers" then I enter "./cdserv crimson &" and then "./cdserv mechgold &" and repeat that for each game server I want to run
[02:42] <fachex> well this is the problem
[02:42] <fhsales> does anyone knows how to configure Wireless connections?
[02:42] <norc> fachex: Search for them on the entire harddrive. Files dont magically disappear.
[02:42] <fachex>  I was installing U. 11.10 and chose the option "updgrade from 11.04", the installation got stuck (all the files were copied) on the keyboard selection. I had not other choice but to force power off, now I have a guess account but NONE of my previous files are there. Help!!! where would they be?
[02:42] <norc> fachex: Why are you repeating your problem...
[02:43] <fachex> I know, I am extremely stupied for not backing up my files
[02:43] <bastidrazor> GaryDev: add the script to /etc/rc.local and it'll run at boot
[02:43] <fachex> I trusted Ubuntu
[02:43] <GaryDev> I can get the script I made to execute... but it just doesn't parse or do anything with the & command to run in the background
[02:43] <norc> fachex: If you wish people to put you on your ignore list, repeat that question again.
[02:43] <awww> GaryDev: Pretty much. If your goal is to start up servers.
[02:43] <krycek> .sh
[02:43] <fachex> thinking that it would keep my files as it said it would
[02:43] <bastidrazor> krycek: stop that.
[02:44] <norc> GaryDev: Ok so you have a script that you want to be executed when the system starts up?
[02:44] <krycek> oh sry 00
[02:44] <GaryDev> I've been on linux for a few years, our old server was fedora and was solid for 200 days or more. Our new ISP has been having mega hiccups every 4 days, so I just want to start the things needed.. Did one for teamspeak3, and it works...
[02:44] <fachex> norc it was not my intention, I thought you might not have read it and it was trying to update you.
[02:45] <GaryDev> I have the script.. I can run it manually... I know the commands to be used LATER to add it into the boot process
[02:45] <norc> fachex: Well I will tell you again. Files dont magically appear. And a power-off will not cause any files on your filesystem to disappear because it uses a journal to prevent exactly that.
[02:45] <norc> GaryDev: Does that script start anything permanent like a service?
[02:46] <GaryDev> if the script would JUST run in the background, life would be perfect... (or run the software we run)
[02:46] <GaryDev> not a service persay no...
[02:46] <sgo11> fachex, can you login with guest account? what df -h gives you? and sudo fdisk -l gives you? show them in a pastebin.
[02:46] <fachex> norc, any idea on how to get them back? you are right U did not format my drive, I hope..I thought i was just replacing the system files
[02:46] <etyrnal> how do i change where the nfs kernel server logs to?
[02:46] <norc> GaryDev: Copy the cron job from /etc/init/cron.conf, remove the `expect fork', adapt the description accordingly, and change the command AFTER `exec' to execute your script. Then put that file into /etc/init/
[02:46] <fachex> sgo11, Yes I can login
[02:46] <norc> GaryDev: thats it. magic done.
[02:47] <GaryDev> it is a "server", in that it comunicates packets that are just text
[02:47] <GaryDev> norc: I can try that
[02:47] <norc> GaryDev: If the script itself however forks, make sure you keep the `expect fork'
[02:47] <sgo11> fachex, I think if you want help. you'd better provide more detail information. 'df -h' and 'sudo fdisk -l' may give some advice. just a tip. :)
[02:47] <fachex> the files are not in the home folder
[02:47] <etyrnal> on system-a where does are atempts from other systems to mount exports logged?
[02:47] <fachex> so, they might be somewhere lese
[02:47] <fachex> else
[02:48] <fachex> ok., I will do that sg11
[02:48] <norc> GaryDev: make sure you name the file in the format of foo.conf (foo being the name of your service) inside /etc/init/
[02:48] <etyrnal> i.e. on the machine i am sitting at, where does it log success/fail messages for clients trying to mount this machine's exports?
[02:49] <norc> GaryDev: and if you dont want the script to be started again if for *some* reason it exits/get killed, remove the `respawn' as well.
[02:49] <fachex> sgo11, fdisk -l returns nothing
[02:49] <sgo11> anyone know how to convert .ttc to .ttf ? mayb how to uncompress .ttc? thanks.
[02:49] <sgo11> fachex, 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[02:50] <otaviobarreto> hi
[02:50] <sgo11> not sure if guest account can do sudo ....
[02:50] <GaryDev> norc: our program must be run in the folder it is located, because it then parses the input line for the lobby it has to run.. so I would "exec cd /opts/dbsservers" and then "exec ./cdserv foldername &"
[02:50] <sgo11> never use guest account by myself.
[02:50] <fachex> nope, it cant
[02:50] <otaviobarreto> how to setu he coolors on x chat ?
[02:50] <fachex> sgo11, no it cannot
[02:50] <fachex> but df -h did return something
[02:50] <norc> GaryDev: no
[02:50] <norc> GaryDev: use the chdir stanza :)
[02:51] <norc> GaryDev: add line before the exec line `chdir /foo/bar/whatever'
[02:51] <sgo11> fachex, just show what it returns in pastebin
[02:51] <GaryDev> ah, ok.. I am understanding a *bit* more
[02:51] <norc> GaryDev: Refer to http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:errnJulRY9kJ:upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Stanzas+upstart+chdir&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=de&client=firefox-a to see a compact list of the available stanzas
[02:51] <fachex> ok, sgo11, give me a second, I am in another machine chatting
[02:52] <etyrnal> how can i escape a " " space character in a pathname in the fstab file for an nfs mount that has a space in the filename?
[02:52] <fhsales> hey people
[02:52] <norc> GaryDev: (Its kind of outdated, but for the most part it should be fine)
[02:52] <fhsales> can someone help me out ?
[02:52] <norc> etyrnal: `\ ' maybe?
[02:52] <hspcd> fhsales: what's going on?
[02:52] <sgo11> fachex, sure. but I think you really need sudo or root account. otherwise, you can not do anything. maybe other people know how to do that in guest account...
[02:52] <fhsales> thanks.
[02:52] <fhsales> hspcd i am trying to make my usb wireless work.
[02:53] <GaryDev> norc: your patience with me has been wonderful, I thank you for that. With the experience I have, I *should* be able to do better... I don't know why linux is such a "lock" for me in learning it
[02:53] <etyrnal> norc, that works from the cli to mount manually, but it seems whatever reads the fstab lines doesn't like it
[02:53] <fhsales> hspcd but in terminal it says it cant download the firmware. i will send a paste
[02:53] <etyrnal> i tried \040 also
[02:53] <hspcd> fhsales: can you tell me make, model and symptoms?
[02:54] <norc> GaryDev: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man5/init.5.html  << this is actually the better short reference
[02:54] <norc> etyrnal: oh in that case wrap the whole thing into quotes?
[02:54] <Ho^Oh> I'm facing an issue in Unity where my Unity launcher icons all have a progress bar on it, and are spread far apart from other unity launcher icons.
[02:55] <fachex> sgo11, here it goes http://pastebin.com/ajhQzYVG
[02:55] <GaryDev> norc: maybe that's why I have such a hard time... if manpages were called womenpages, I might want to read them more... :P Thanks for the info
[02:55] <norc> etyrnal: Ohh nevermind. Use the \040 octal sequence as space for fstab :-)
[02:55] <fhsales> hspcd it is a elsys EWU-2n35a, actually it is a Realtek 8192SU. i tried some commands to make linux recognize it.but in the end ubuntu says in desktop that device is not ready.
[02:56] <fhsales> hspcd i am trying to use the dmesg -c on terminal but it aint working.
[02:56] <mrguser> Hi!
[02:56] <hspcd> fhsales: just type in dmesg
[02:56] <Ho^Oh> Also, when I logout/login back using Unity, all my icons then become invisible. :(
[02:56] <sgo11> fachex, that shows you have 229G for /.  is that all what you have in your previous linux installation before update?
[02:56] <norc> GaryDev: Just make sure to use `expect fork' **if and only if** your command forks.
[02:56] <hspcd> fhsales: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:57] <norc> (if and only if it forks exactly once that is)
[02:57] <fhsales> hspcd when i type sudo dmesg -c nothing happens
[02:57] <etyrnal> norc, thanks. trying now.
[02:57] <mrguser> How can i install wine 1.0 instead of 1.2? Can someone suggest?
[02:57] <norc> GaryDev: If it does not fork at all, no line. If it forks once, use expect fork. If it forks twice, use expect daemon. Just FYI
[02:58] <GaryDev> norc: I don't know what "forks" means to be honest... anything we do, is always done in the one directory, the program makes internet calls and database calls...
[02:58] <hspcd> fhsales: don't use the -c option
[02:58] <fhsales> hspcd ok understood.
[02:59] <mrguser> ?
[02:59] <GaryDev> norc: and the program is run once, for each game server it 'listens' to, on a defined port
[02:59] <norc> GaryDev: When a process forks it creates a copy of itself, which then runs as a child process
[02:59] <norc> GaryDev: I certainly hope you're not planning on adding multiple services for that :p
[03:00] <fhsales> hspcd maybe it is happening because i am installing a driver?
[03:00] <norc> GaryDev: That child process then is free to do something different while the parent process resumes execution after it forked.
[03:00] <GaryDev> norc: The server is in c++, and it's not threaded... it handles one thing at a time for the most part
[03:00] <mrguser> Anyone?
[03:00] <mrguser> How can i install wine 1.0 instead of 1.2? Can someone suggest?
[03:01] <norc> mrguser: apt preferences pin
[03:01] <c_smith> mrguser, I don't believe you can install them without compiling, I could be wrong.
[03:01] <hspcd> fhsales: can you put the relevant parts of dmesg in pastebin so I can see the log?
[03:01] <etyrnal> mrguser, force version in synaptic
[03:01] <norc> mrguser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[03:01] <c_smith> mrguser, also, you could use Playonlinux to get different versions of Wine in one machine.
[03:02] <norc> mrguser: describes various methods to accomplish that, including but not limited to synaptic.
[03:02] <mrguser> Etyrnal means?
[03:02] <norc> mrguser: Just check out the link I gave you.
[03:02] <mrguser> Ok
[03:02] <norc> mrguser: and please *read* it and dont stop at the first command you see to just copy and paste it ;)
[03:03] <mrguser> Ok etyrnal
[03:03] <GaryDev> norc: would it be 'safe/prudent' to just leave the 'expect fork' line in... I really doubt the 'fork' side would happen but... or, take it out and if there are hiccups, put it back in?
[03:03] <norc> GaryDev: No.
[03:03] <norc> GaryDev: If in doubt, dont use anything
[03:03] <GaryDev> norc: understood
[03:03] <hspcd> fhsales: also, can you do an "ls /lib/firmware/RT*" (without the quotes) and pastebin the output?
[03:03] <norc> GaryDev: But if it then forks, upstart will track the wrong process and it could have consequences
[03:04] <fhsales> ok. i am restarting the system and will do thar
[03:04] <etyrnal> mrguser, in Synaptic Package Manager, look under menu for Package - should be a force version option
[03:04] <norc> GaryDev: Like it could re-run the script unexpectedly multiple times, you will be unable to use service xxx stop for those services (or that might even have dangerous side effects)
[03:05] <norc> GaryDev: is this a bash script you are executing?
[03:05] <hspcd> fhsales: you should get fresh log entries simply by unplugging / plugging the device (FYI)
[03:05] <GaryDev> norc: yes.. I *think* so... LOL.. its in etc/init.d at the moment
[03:05] <hspcd> fhsales: you should not have to reboot, in other words
[03:06] <norc> GaryDev: put it somewhere else, like /usr/local/bin
[03:06] <fhsales> hscp are you there?
[03:06] <hspcd> fhsales: pastebin those items and put the link <here> .  I'll be right back
[03:06] <fhsales> hey
[03:06] <norc> GaryDev: Check the bash scripts for any ampersands (&) or `exec' occurences - if there's none there, no fork magic
[03:07] <norc> (or at least probably no fork magic)
[03:07] <GaryDev> norc: Our software will not run a 2nd instance on the same port... if that port is in use, then it simply exits.. and I have NO need for a "start/restart/stop" type of options
[03:07] <fhsales> hspcd situation has changed. it seems the device is working now.Instead of device not ready it says disconnected.maybe now i just have to configure my wireless system
[03:07] <norc> GaryDev: Either check yourself or pastie the script and I can check whether that script will fork or not
[03:07] <hspcd> fhsales: perhaps you'll be running in no time then
[03:07] <GaryDev> norc: well, the script is basically what I type in putty...
[03:08] <haylo> why cant i get voice on ##linux ??
[03:08] <norc> GaryDev: Which *might* fork. Just pastie it please :)
[03:08] <GaryDev> in here or in private? Its short, but.. I don't want to fllod here
[03:08] <c_smith> How do I get Emerald to start on startup?
[03:08] <haylo> oh i see now srrrru
[03:08] <haylo> srrrru
[03:09] <Ho^Oh> haylo: That's offtopic, if you have to ask, then you shouldn't be voiced & etc.
[03:09] <TUX11> how can i change ubuntu 11 theme to the origional ubuntu theme
[03:09] <GaryDev> norc: I will send it in a whisper...
[03:09] <TUX11> this is rubbish
[03:09] <haylo> Ho^Oh, that is not an appropriate thing to say
[03:09] <bazhang> !ot | haylo
[03:10] <danny> my update manager wont update anything because it says the action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources well how do i make it ignore this
[03:10] <bazhang> TUX11, original meaning which?
[03:10] <haylo> you guys banned me from ubuntu-offtopic
[03:10] <norc> GaryDev: yeah please use pastie.org for that kind of work, that way you can simply paste the URL to the pastie snippet :)
[03:10] <haylo> thats why i asked here
[03:10] <TUX11> without all the sidebar crap, and the bar at the bottom so i can see whats open
[03:10] <bazhang> haylo, try ##linux-ops
[03:10] <c_smith> haylo, then there's a reason you are banned from that channel.
[03:10] <fhsales2> hspcd did you see my last message?
[03:10] <GaryDev> norc: ah, sorry.. noobie factor again :)
[03:11] <Ho^Oh> TUX11: You can see what's opened in Unity...
[03:11] <haylo> nah i got banned from here at same time- but only this one was lifted
[03:11] <bazhang> !notunity | TUX11
[03:11] <norc> GaryDev: (Note you can use any other pastebin service as well, not trying to advertise pastie.org :P)
[03:11] <Ho^Oh> TUX11: You can add and remove icons from Unity app launcher.
[03:11] <bazhang> haylo, lets move on
[03:11] <haylo> ok
[03:11] <Ho^Oh> TUX11: Or try this wonderful alternative: http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/
[03:11] <TUX11> ok gnome shell will that make it look like the previous 10.4
[03:11] <GaryDev> norc: as you can tell, I'm also not very strong in IRC ways either..
[03:12] <hspcd> fhsales: I saw it.  Is it working now?
[03:12] <norc> GaryDev: Just pastie the script please ;)
[03:12] <reith2004_> hey guys.. good morning, just wanna ask, how will i fix my apt-get, it always shows duplicate in my apt list but when i check it out, everything in there was unique or no duplicate
[03:12] <TUX11> im guna break this pC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:12] <GaryDev> norc: http://pastie.org/3493330
[03:13] <fhsales2> hspcd look the command here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/862880/. Well, it says disconnected. now i should configure my wireless network? or it should recognize automatically?
[03:13] <c_smith> TUX11, have you tried Cairo/GLX dock?
[03:13] <urfr332gO> TUX11, gnome 2 is not supported by its developers anymore 10.04 is supported for a year past april though.
[03:13] <fhsales> back
[03:14] <norc> GaryDev: Yeah no fork there :)
[03:14] <urfr332gO> reith2004, you mean the sources.list?
[03:14] <reith2004> yea
[03:14] <c_smith> Tux11, Cairo/GLX dock run really nicely (can even be started from the login screen and run in tandem with a barebones Gnome session)
[03:14] <GaryDev> norc: all I need is for the "&" part to work... :(
[03:15] <reith2004> urfr332g0 yea... when i try the update manager it works, but the apt-get always says there was a duplicate entries
[03:15] <GaryDev> norc: the script does run, the server does start, it works perfect... until I exit putty
[03:15] <reith2004> BW: Disable (0 Mbit) 0 b/s (0 bytes) down, 0 b/s (0 bytes) up
[03:15] <urfr332gO> reith2004, you can save the one you have and set up a new one with this site or at least compare and contrast.  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[03:15] <GaryDev> norc: and when I run the command itself, rather than the script... it works perfectly after I leave putty
[03:16] <fhsales> hspcd still there?
[03:16] <sacarlson> reith2004: urfr332gO: I see the same thing at update I think it's a duplicate package in one of the ppa that I have added.  not sure witch one it is, I've ignored it so far with no problems
[03:17] <urfr332gO> reith2004, did you add any ppa's with a ppa add and also put them in the sources.list, there is a sources.list.d in etc/apt
[03:17] <norc> GaryDev: http://pastie.org/3493351  << then that should be all you need. place it in /etc/init/aoeserver.conf for example.
[03:17] <saquib> j
[03:17] <Kowboy> anyone here do Ruby development on Ubuntu?
[03:17] <norc> Kowboy: I did a while ago
[03:18] <Kowboy> is it best just to install ruby and rubygems from source?
[03:18] <reith2004> sacarlson,urf332g0 yea it tried that,
[03:18] <Kowboy> or is it difficult to use gem2deb?
[03:18] <sacarlson> Kowboy: I do ruby dev on ubuntu also,  I also monitor #ruby
[03:19] <etyrnal> only one problem left to solve - nice
[03:19] <Kowboy> sacarlson, what is your recommended setup?
[03:20] <sacarlson> Kowboy: I've never used gem2deb, I just install the needed dev packages that the gem loader needs or install the prepackaged ruby packages
[03:20] <c_smith> My Flash Drive shows it is mounted when it is not connected, yet when I connected, it tries to mount a duplicate of it.... is there anything I can do about this?
[03:20] <urfr332gO> reith2004, you can use crtl-f in the sources.list to find duplicate save them from the terminal.
[03:21] <reith2004> urfr332gO ok im gonna tried thanks...
[03:21] <c_smith> and this flash drive is only listed in the sidebar in Nautilus, it's not actually in /media
[03:21] <GaryDev> norc: Ok, I'll give it a shot and see what happens... I will remember to add in the chdir command as well :)
[03:21] <reith2004> urfr332gO not on my home pc :) thanks for tips
[03:21] <sacarlson> Kowboy: if gem loader fails there is normaly a prepackage ruby deb in the repository,
[03:22] <urfr332gO> reith2004, no problem. :)
[03:22] <norc> GaryDev: well since your script already does that, no need for that :)
[03:22] <Kowboy> not for the things I am looking for
[03:22] <norc> GaryDev: but sure, you can add it nevertheless
[03:22] <Kowboy> jekyll for instancew
[03:22] <GaryDev> norc: OH... yes... I see, you are calling the script... DOH!
[03:22] <norc> GaryDev: Or actually, you dont need to call that script. Thats just stupid
[03:23] <Kowboy> looks like gem install is working
[03:23] <norc> GaryDev: Use the chdir stanza and call the application directly.
[03:23] <Fernandos> anyone with a HP TM2?
[03:23] <urfr332gO> c_smith, did you add the flash to fstab?
[03:23] <Fernandos> taps on the touchscreen don't fire a click, only move the mouse pointer.
[03:24] <GaryDev> norc: seems a lot simplier... and then if I have others (for the other lobbies).. all I have to do is just add or remove those CONF files out (or in) and not have to worry about anything else with rc.d ??
[03:24] <bazhang> Fernandos, whats the issue
[03:24] <norc> GaryDev: that wouldnt be pretty at all.. but it would work.
[03:24] <urfr332gO> c_smith, it has to be mounted to show in media.
[03:25] <sacarlson> Kowboy: did you read this page for install of jekyll? https://github.com/mojombo/jekyll/wiki/Install
[03:25] <Fernandos> bazhang: when I tap the screen it only moves the mouse pointer, the styles and eraser work perfectly, but tapping the screen doesn't make a click, it just moves the mouse
[03:26] <jschall> I am mostly unable to connect to my university campus wifi (not sure if campus-wide or on a specific AP) It will connect once and then if I reconnect it it will just throw the following error in syslog : "wlan0: 00:1a:1e:8d:35:60 denied authentication (status 17)". changing the macaddress fixes the problem once. additionally, sometimes if I get real lucky the adapter will decide to use 5ghz and it will work without changing the mac
[03:26] <jschall> address.
[03:26] <GaryDev> norc: also.. the re-spawn.. our lobby never crashes, so I don't need it to auto-start.. there are times when I just kill the process, I don't want the thing to start back again.. or, would respawn heed my "kill" command and not worry about it
[03:26] <norc> GaryDev: no keep it.
[03:26] <Fernandos> bazhang: does it work for you?
[03:26] <norc> GaryDev: If you want to stop the service, you'd use `service aoeserver stop'
[03:27] <norc> GaryDev: Its for unexpected crashes/exits.
[03:27] <Kowboy> sacarlson, yes that is what I've been looking at
[03:27] <urfr332gO> jschall, you sure it is the right connection, my universities wifi has several channels some not for students.
[03:27] <GaryDev> norc: ok.. so, you say I should do "more" than just put those CONF files? What else would be required?
[03:27] <norc> GaryDev: nothing else :)
[03:27] <norc> GaryDev: just add one simple tiny conf file, and thats it.
[03:27] <mister2> i'm having some issues with java. I have openjdk and icetea installed, loading applets in firefox crashes it. i can load .jars fine, is it just a firefox issue? reinstalling that might work?
[03:28] <jschall> urfr332gO: there is exactly one essid for the campus wifi.
[03:28] <sacarlson> Kowboy: I've never installed that but sometimes they fail to document all the needed packages needed
[03:28] <GaryDev> norc: ok... I'll give it a shot :)
[03:28] <urfr332gO> jschall, I would talk to there IT people if you can.
[03:28] <urfr332gO> their
[03:29] <GaryDev> norc: these files go into init?
[03:29] <norc> GaryDev: /etc/init/ yes
[03:29] <GaryDev> norc: awesome. Thank you *again* for your patience and assistance...
[03:31] <sacarlson> jschall: sounds like you might be band from one or more access points,  if you find the mac address of the one that works maybe you can set your connection to that one,  I'm not sure how easy or hard that might be
[03:31] <jschall> sacarlson: it seems that it bans me every time i connect to it. it's been reset by IT repeatedly and it still bans me.
[03:32] <jschall> sacarlson: i'm not sure if it's because my adapter is doing something or because it thinks its still connected to my adapter or what
[03:32] <shubbar> recently, i used the wubi migrate script, but i think it did not complete
[03:32] <sacarlson> jschall: it might be that it finds another ap it see's better and moves but the sig levels or other reason the ap bans you,  still might find another mac that works
[03:32] <shubbar> still see the main partition mounted in /media
[03:33] <jschall> sacarlson: don't understand what you mean.
[03:34] <urfr332gO> shubbar, do you get a grub menu at boot?
[03:34] <sacarlson> jschall: each ap even if on the same network should have a unique mac address,  the problem might also be on your side since no one else is having the problem I assume
[03:35] <jschall> sacarlson: if the problem is on my side its a problem that is causing the ap to ban me.
[03:35] <jschall> sacarlson: since it miraculously starts working again if i change mac addresses.
[03:35] <sacarlson> jschall: ya try disable network-manager and try manualy control things and see what happens
[03:35] <fhsales> does anyone knows why my terminal does not recognize my files?
[03:36] <urfr332gO> fhsales, can you be like real specific?
[03:36] <sacarlson> jschall: when you change mac address maybe just try change it back again to the bad one and see if it still works
[03:37] <fhsales> urfr332gO it is becaus i downloaded a realtek driver and i am trying to mount it. i put the files into my desktop but when i do the commands it says it cant found the archives.
[03:37] <jschall> sacarlson: ok, i'll try that next time. any other thoughts?
[03:37] <sacarlson> jschall: sounds more like the mac change is reseting something needed
[03:37] <jschall> sacarlson: i doubt it.
[03:37] <urfr332gO> fhsales, what is the command how about a link to them.
[03:37] <bazhang> fhsales, Desktop?
[03:37] <jschall> sacarlson: since i've turned the wifi off and on again and it doesn't solve the issue
[03:38] <GaryDev> norc: So this "final result" would be correct... providing I named it something like "aoeking.conf" and it would respond to 'service aoeking start" ... etc... http://pastie.org/3493453
[03:38] <norc> GaryDev: yes.
[03:38] <fhsales> urfr332gO sudo apt-get install unzip
[03:38] <norc> GaryDev: except
[03:38] <fhsales> bazhang how should i call it?
[03:38] <norc> GaryDev: Remove that ampersand.
[03:38] <etyrnal_> fstab nightmare
[03:38] <bazhang> fhsales, did you change directories to the Desktop with a capital 'D' ?
[03:38] <sacarlson> jschall: off and on like unpluged a wifi dongle?  maybe reset isn't doing what it should
[03:38] <norc> GaryDev: upstart already does the magic putting that into background.
[03:38] <GaryDev> norc: ok...
[03:39] <fhsales> bazhang no.
[03:39] <etyrnal_> i can not seem to find any way to escape a space within the fstab
[03:39] <GaryDev> norc: <bow>
[03:39] <fhsales> what i am missing to unzip and cd the driver?
[03:39] <norc> GaryDev: If you *did* use the ampersand, you actually would have to add expect fork too by the way. But you dont need the ampersand anyway
[03:39] <urfr332gO> fhsales, you have a zip file it would need to be exstrated and then a cd I would think
[03:39] <GaryDev> LOL
[03:39] <sacarlson> jschall: is your wifi device a broadcom ?
[03:39] <jschall> sacarlson: intel advanced-n 6230
[03:39] <fhsales> urfr332gO exactly how do i do that?
[03:40] <urfr332gO> !tar | fhsales
[03:40] <jschall> sacarlson: what i mean by off and on is i used the key combination on the laptop to power the wifi chipset off
[03:40] <sacarlson> jschall: well I would try total manual without network-manager as I've had problems with it in the past and only got some ap to work with custom scripts
[03:40] <GaryDev> norc: alright, thanks again... I'm off to go create some of these conf files, and then I'll have to wait several hours before the main server is empty and I can do a reboot to test them out
[03:41] <norc> GaryDev: I probably wouldnt create multiple jobs in upstart for this.
[03:41] <urfr332gO> fhsales, does not matter whether on the desktop, a extract would be a right click on the zip and open with the archive manager to exstract
[03:42] <bazhang> ZenIRCBot, irssi
[03:42] <ZenIRCBot> bazhang: Use weechat.
[03:42] <jsoft> erc
[03:42] <GaryDev> norc: well... we have an average of 10 game servers running, so it needs to start 10 times (all using different folder/game names of course)
[03:42] <fhsales> urfr332gO ok, but after extracting what do i do to cd it?
[03:43] <norc> GaryDev: Well I would have upstart start a service that manages starting multiple instances.
[03:43] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! I case I have Ubuntu Server installed, and want to install the graphic interface, which package should I install?
[03:43] <urfr332gO> fhsales, read the link the bot gave there is more to it then just a cd
[03:43] <sacarlson> jschall: maybe some geek just doesn't like you,  do you use alot of bandwidth?
[03:43] <GaryDev> norc: ok... would that be just adding in multiple "exec" lines then?
[03:44] <norc> GaryDev: But I suppose doing *that* properly is more complicated than simply adding a bunch of jobs to upstart.
[03:44] <jschall> sacarlson: no, that's not it.
[03:44] <bazhang> JoseeAntonioR, ubuntu-desktop for gnome , kubuntu-desktop for kde4 , xubuntu-desktop for xfce4
[03:44] <norc> GaryDev: no, just use multiple jobs - its not pretty but it will work.
[03:44] <urfr332gO> fhsales, cd ~/Desktop  if that is where it is at, then more ciommands to install if this is a tar
[03:44] <jschall> sacarlson: it's happening on 2 identical s76 gazelle professionals
[03:44] <JoseeAntonioR> bazhang: Perfect! Thank you!
[03:45] <sacarlson> jschall: oh ok so it must be related to the wifi device then
[03:45] <jschall> sacarlson: yeah, i know, but it wasn't happening until recently
[03:45] <GaryDev> norc: I'll watch the resources used... if the stress on the system is too much, then I will just find another way so that the scripts run, and use the rc.d command for getting them to start at boot time
[03:45] <norc> GaryDev: or actually
[03:45] <norc> GaryDev: give me one minute please
[03:45] <jschall> sacarlson: i don't think it's an update though, i think they added or reconfigured an AP
[03:46] <GaryDev> norc: grin.. ok :) I think I might be starting to punish you a bit... LOL
[03:46] <norc> GaryDev: nah its cool, I use this to learn more about upstart :)
[03:47] <sacarlson> jschall: maybe they got a new ap,  I had a problem like this before where 2 devices in a 10 computer wifi network didn't work and they weren't even the same
[03:47] <sgo11> anyone know how to convert .ttc to .ttf please? ....
[03:48] <GaryDev> norc: I see.. well, since I am teaching you then (snort) I only charge 295.95 per minute :P
[03:48] <jschall> sacarlson: they did tell my mother (they won't reply to my emails, i'm just a lowly student, she's a professor of computer science) they were "improving" the wifi in the building
[03:48] <jschall> sacarlson: since before this issue, it was horrificly slow
[03:50] <norc> GaryDev: Ok I have an acceptable implementation for that
[03:50] <sacarlson> jschall: in my case with the 2 that didn't work it ended up that the new accesspoint I had added wanted to be the one that did the dhcp to authenticated,  not sure why some computers still worked
[03:50] <fhsales> urfr332GO it did not work.
[03:50] <agentgasmask> I've checked my resolve.conf file and the output of route. all looks to be in order. Anything else to check to see why DNS seems to be down, ie I can't resolve google or amazon.
[03:51] <fhsales> urfr332gO i tried to cd the archive. but it did not work. inside this folder there is a tar file.
[03:51] <WiCkD1> hello.
[03:51] <jschall> sacarlson: so there were two APs providing dhcp or something?
[03:51] <jschall> sacarlson: i don't quite understand your sentence structure
[03:51] <WiCkD1> is anyone else here able to change masked hosts for a nick?
[03:52] <sacarlson> jschall: yes it was double nat that seemed stupid to me but that's what worked
[03:52] <sacarlson> jschall: nat = network-address-translation
[03:52] <urfr332gO> fhsales, First install tars is not really something I have done often, so my help is really as a look here this tells you how, so look at the links and the web.
[03:53] <jschall> sacarlson: aware
[03:53] <urfr332gO> installing*
[03:53] <pangolin> WiCkD1: #freenode can help with that
[03:53] <WiCkD1> Thanks pangolin
[03:53] <jschall> sacarlson: hmm
[03:53] <urfr332gO> !pm | fhsales I don't PM and most wont without being asked.
[03:53] <jschall> sacarlson: well, thanks for the thoughts, i think the next thing to do is change the mac address back after it bans me and see if its still banned to make sure it is on the AP side
[03:54] <sacarlson> jschall: I wasted alot of time on that one since I was so convinced that the problem was on the client side but in the end that worked
[03:54] <jschall> sacarlson: and then after that's confirmed it's a matter of complaining to it until they fixit.
[03:54] <GaryDev> norc: and I am listening :)
[03:54] <fhsales> urfr332Go understood.sorry.
[03:54] <norc> GaryDev: yes give me one more sec
[03:55] <sacarlson> jschall: or get an external wifi adapter that does work is another option if they fail to move
[03:55] <urfr332gO> fhsales, no biggie. lol, you just want to remember that we help for free.
[03:55] <jschall> sacarlson: hell. no.
[03:55] <GaryDev> norc: no problem...
[03:55] <fhsales> urfr332gO my question here is because i am unable to make my usb wireless work. i found a site here which says how to make that happen.But when it comes to make the commands, i am failing.
[03:55] <fhsales> urfr332gO in the end, what should i do with that tar file?
[03:55] <sacarlson> jschall: you say that now but 6 months from now you might wish you did
[03:56] <urfr332gO> fhsales, get one that plugs and plays as suggested, there are ones that are very cheap, and there is a wiki that will tell ones that work.
[03:56] <norc> GaryDev: http://pastie.org/3493546  << something like that.
[03:56] <orlok> Tinfoil around the microwaves maybe?
[03:56] <jschall> sacarlson: not buying an external wifi adapter when A. i already have the best available internal wifi adapter for linux, B. it's not my fault their AP blows, C. i can kludge around the problem by picking a random macaddr
[03:57] <sacarlson> jschall: oh the random macaddr works for how long a whole session?
[03:57] <norc> GaryDev: set PIDDIR to some directory where the pid files go to (notice that the rights must be set properly for that directory)
[03:57] <jschall> sacarlson: on session
[03:57] <jschall> sacarlson: one
[03:58] <sacarlson> jschall: oh ok ya just write a script that randomizes then as long as it works one sesion that should be good
[03:58] <norc> GaryDev: err wait whops
[03:58] <GaryDev> norc: I have that bookmarked... I think for the moment, I'll stick with the single script for each one until I know it will run right. ... waiting...
[03:59] <norc> GaryDev: http://pastie.org/3493552
[03:59] <norc> GaryDev: that sorry.
[03:59] <norc> GaryDev: you really should do that instead.
[03:59] <norc> GaryDev: its much cleaner
[03:59] <norc> and dang
[03:59] <GaryDev> norc: ok.. I think... lol
[04:00] <norc> GaryDev: http://pastie.org/3493559    -- last one.
[04:00] <norc> :D
[04:00] <GaryDev> :)
[04:01] <norc> GaryDev: Wah. Shoot me in the head for not being precise :(
[04:01] <GaryDev> norc: again.. appreciated. I will wander off, do some reading and testing :)
[04:01] <norc> GaryDev: http://pastie.org/3493570
[04:01] <norc> GaryDev: haha.
[04:02] <GaryDev> 4th time lucky? :P
[04:02] <norc> GaryDev: http://pastie.org/3493572
[04:02] <norc> GaryDev: 5th time.
[04:02] <norc> GaryDev: I dont have a linux system available right now so i cant test it.
[04:02] <blackmamba55> out of curiosity is there a stripped down version of ubuntu i can download that does not have unity or anything so i can install gnomeshell
[04:04] <GaryDev> norc: not to worry.. our server program (./cdserv) takes a folder name as a starting arg... it then looks in "that" folder to get all the info about the game, ports, configs etc... and uses that folder for storing logs. aoekings, crimson, cfs1 etc are the type of 'args' passed
[04:05] <norc> GaryDev: No my point is, if I had a linux server at my disposal I would have tested it with my own scripts for syntax errors and logic errors
[04:05] <norc> GaryDev: but my last revision should in principle work
[04:06] <norc> though I dont think sleep 9999999 is so sleek
[04:06] <norc> you probably could use something like `exec bash'
[04:06] <norc> (it's just a pseudo thing to be executed for upstart to track)
[04:06] <USBoot> hey guys, anyhelp would be appreciated, ive got ubuntu booting from usb, but its not utilizing the whole space on the drive, any ideas?
[04:06] <GaryDev> norc: Starting to see and understand. Off to explore how much trouble I can cause now, thanks kindly :)
[04:06] <norc> obviously you'll lose the respawn semantic entirely if you do that
[04:07] <norc> USBoot: "utilizing" ?
[04:07] <GaryDev> respawn doesn't matter to me, to be honest..
[04:07] <USBoot> yeah, ive got 500gb available, and it only uses about 2.5 :/
[04:08] <norc> GaryDev: In any case, your previous attempt with the scripts in /etc/init.d/ is for sysvinit - which Ubuntu has replaced with upstart. :-)
[04:09] <norc> (While I think upstart can still parse those for compability reasons, real upstart jobs like the one I just gave you are the way to go)
[04:10] <sacarlson> USBoot: did you partition the drive at all?
[04:10] <USBoot> prior to installing the image on the usb?
[04:10] <sacarlson> USBoot: I guess durring the install image
[04:11] <USBoot> it didnt give me an option
[04:11] <USBoot> because most of the programs dont recognize a 500 gb external as a usb, i cant use unetbootin
[04:11] <sacarlson> USBoot: you would have to pick manual partition at that point,  to do partitioning on it now would require booting from another device
[04:12] <westz> okay, i've been away from good ol' tux for a while. i boot from a USB drive sometimes and it always hangs @ "unknown keyword in configuration file. boot:" prompt. i used to type something here and it would boot. wasnt "help" but i cant remember what it was for the life of me
[04:12] <USBoot> oh and ive tried that as well
[04:12] <USBoot> it says the partition is the full 500 gb
[04:12] <USBoot> but the image is much smaller
[04:12] <westz> it was something short like 4 or five letters
[04:12] <sacarlson> USBoot: well to boot from usb I think you can't use extX type format so it can't get that big
[04:13] <sacarlson> USBoot: therefore you would have to create at least one more partition other than the boot partition to be the big one
[04:14] <westz> not "boot" "start" "usb" "help" or anything else easy i can remember
[04:16] <naimuser> hello
[04:16] <sacarlson> USBoot: oh and unetbootin might not have options for adding partitions, but ubuntu I would think does
[04:18] <melvincv> !precise | melvincv
[04:19] <soreau> hey guys, I have two ubuntu systems and the clocks are 10 minutes apart. I don't see any server sync settings in the time config.. does it never sync the time to a server?
[04:20] <sacarlson> soreau: I guess ntp is an option not default installed
[04:20] <soreau> sacarlson: oh ok
[04:22] <fhsales> does someone know the kernel for ubuntu 10.04?
[04:22] <vaccine> Howdy folks.. Im trying to get packages installed for my MacBook Air.  Im following the instructions on help.ubuntu.com but I can't add the packages it says to
[04:23] <isaac__> question
[04:23] <isaac__> where was ubuntu made
[04:23] <Venne> Greetings! Is anyone here that can help me? Its actually very simple.
[04:23] <urfr332gO> isaac__, in the dungeon. :)
[04:23] <isaac__> in what country :P
[04:24] <urfr332gO> isaac__, transylvania.
[04:24] <urfr332gO> isaac__, I ribbing you. :)
[04:24] <isaac__> <_<
[04:25] <vaccine> I added a PPA to my system (I think) but I still can't install packages from it.
[04:25] <urfr332gO> isaac__, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:25] <fhsales> does anyone know the kernel of ubuntu 10.04?
[04:25] <Venne> Anyone? I was just wondering why firefox won't work on Ubuntu lol the problem is I just...can't connect I can ping websites but I can't downloads apps and I cant get on the browser it says server not found.
[04:25] <sacarlson> vaccine: did you sudo apt-get update ; ?
[04:26] <vaccine> sacarlson, yep
[04:26] <Venne> i can try
[04:26] <vaccine> Im trying to follow the post-install instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir3-2/Meerkat
[04:27] <sacarlson> Venne: you sure you have an isp?  sounds like you don't have any port 80 if you do,  is any other browser working?
[04:27] <vaccine> when I try to install the packages, it says they aren't found =(
[04:28] <sacarlson> vaccine: ok install packages is not the browser so that's another app that fails to get port 80 access
[04:28] <sacarlson> opps I mean Venne
[04:29] <Venne> yeah i do i got an ISP..i think well how would i be on here now if i didn't (i use the same internet cord cause im poorfag)
[04:29] <CFHowlett> ?
[04:29] <sacarlson> Venne: ok and you are using this same isp with ubuntu then?
[04:30] <Venne> yups
[04:30] <newer> I use google-talk by empathy, and I add a google talk account. But how I can chat with other?
[04:30] <CFHowlett> newer   not through empathy
[04:31] <soreau> sacarlson: yea I think installing ntp fixed it, thanks
[04:31] <sacarlson> soreau: cool
[04:31] <soreau> now they're only one second apart ;)
[04:31] <newer> why?
[04:31] <CFHowlett> newer   correction: I've not done it.  It appears that google-talk chat SHOULD be possible.
[04:31] <sacarlson> Venne: so what is different on these two ubuntu systems that might make one work and the other not?  different versions?
[04:36] <vaccine> E: Unable to locate package applesmc-dkms
[04:36] <vaccine> =(
[04:37] <sacarlson> vaccine: that was on the ppa?  sometimes the servers go down and ppa I'm not sure they have a backup like standard repository
[04:37] <CFHowlett> vaccine   if you haven't enable the ppa in software sources, you won't see it.  http://bitmath.org/code/applesmc-dkms/
[04:37] <newer> who can tell me  how to  edit my window by style css ?
[04:38] <soreau> vaccine: According to the internet, "As of 25OCT2008, the package applesmc-dkms is available in the mactel ppa."
[04:38] <tiyowan> hello everyone, was wondering whether anyone has had trouble setting up color syntax highlighting for php on vim in ubuntu 11.10?
[04:38] <K0wb0yK0der> hi  all
[04:38] <vaccine> CFHowlett I enabled it using sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mactel-support/ppa
[04:38] <vaccine> do I need to do more than that?
[04:39] <CFHowlett> vaccine   nope that should do it...
[04:39] <soreau> vaccine: apt-get update
[04:39] <vaccine> lame
[04:39] <CFHowlett> vaccine  as soreau said: apt-get update
[04:39] <CFHowlett> failing that, try through git.
[04:39] <CFHowlett> K0wb0yK0der   greetings
[04:40] <novatax> he did, I think the PPA goes down for a while..
[04:40] <vaccine> yeah, I tried
[04:40] <K0wb0yK0der> thank you :) my first time in this IRC. i spend most of my time in the #linux channel
[04:40] <newer> who can tell me  how to  edit my window by style css ?
[04:40] <newer> thanks
[04:41] <sacarlson> newer: isn't css like for web pages?
[04:41] <CFHowlett> newer   that's not really an ubuntu question.  Maybe try to find a css channel.
[04:41] <K0wb0yK0der> newer, what are you looking to do? pm me
[04:41] <CFHowlett> K0wb0yK0der   this is an ubuntu support channel.  Have you a specific problem to solv?
[04:42] <soreau> ! pm
[04:42] <CFHowlett> vaccine   what version of ubuntu are you working with?
[04:43] <vaccine> CFHowlett 11.10
[04:43] <K0wb0yK0der> nope mostly going to stay silent. provide support when i can. otherwise learn. 99% of the time im using Rhel. first time installed ubuntu.
[04:44] <CFHowlett> vaccine   this says its for the maverick and I see no upgrades:  http://ppa.launchpad.net/mactel-support/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/a/applesmc-dkms/applesmc-dkms_0.17.3-maverick-mactel1_all.deb  from http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/mactel_support/maverick/main/base/applesmc-dkms
[04:44] <norc> Ok, I think I discovered some severe bug in upstart. For some bizarre reason it remembers an old pid of a process that no longer even exists :/
[04:45] <edwinkcw> is there any good desktop app to reader google reader feed?
[04:45] <norc> (And subsequent starts/stops don't change it, it still tries to track the process using that old and *long* outdated pid)
[04:45]  * norc hates this
[04:45] <vaccine> CFHowlett does that mean it's in the kernel now?
[04:45] <bagels_> hey guys, I think my go-home-applet or something is screwed up.  I used to have something similar to Unity, but don't know what it's called.  I need help figuring it out.  here's a pic: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oEGXTEGgX-I/TJ5UE4ZeUEI/AAAAAAAAAPs/tyPTriejXMA/s1600/Screenshot.png
[04:46] <CFHowlett> vaccine   it's a ppa and NOT in the linux kernel.
[04:46] <z3r0n0id> not understanding the cut command. help?
[04:46] <CFHowlett> edwinkcw   see firefox add-ons - plenty in there.
[04:47] <z3r0n0id> 1. Use the cut command on the output of a long directory listing in order to display only the file permissions
[04:47] <edwinkcw> CFHowlett: oh, I am looking for desktop app ...
[04:48] <CFHowlett> edwinkcw   search in software center - it's there.
[04:48] <vaccine> CFHowlett how do you recommend I proceed?
[04:49] <mcurran> Anyone know how to get rid of all the default firefox crap in /usr/lib/firefox*/ ****
[04:49] <mcurran> I use the aurora, but I don't think it likes it when I take out the other false apps.
[04:49] <CFHowlett> vaccine   I've never installed ubuntu on a mac.  I assume you're using a tutorial?  Follow that.  So far as the .deb is concerned, download it to your desktop, open a terminal and run *sudo dpkg -i mactelfile.deb*
[04:49] <mcurran> I'm gonna try to take out the older ones and see what happens
[04:51] <bagels_> how do i find out what program I'm running to pick my programs/show my desktop?  It looks like Unity but isn't.
[04:52] <soreau> bagels_: maybe xprop?
[04:52] <vaccine> CFHowlett Im trying to follow the tutorial, it says add the PPA and then apt-get install a few packages, but it doesn't seem to be able to find them =(
[04:52] <bagels_> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oEGXTEGgX-I/TJ5UE4ZeUEI/AAAAAAAAAPs/tyPTriejXMA/s1600/Screenshot.png soreau does it look like that?
[04:53] <soreau> bagels_: no, run xprop then click on the window/surface in question
[04:54] <urfr332gO> vaccine, you run a update after adding the ppa then searching for packages?
[04:54] <CFHowlett> vaccine   I found that .deb on the first page of searching.  If the ppa's aren't available, I'd generally consider that installation method to be defunct and look for an alternate.  You can always install virtualbox for apple and install ubuntu into that.
[04:54] <vaccine> urfr332gO, yep
[04:54] <bagels_> soreau i got a whole mess of gobbledygook
[04:55] <urfr332gO> vaccine, I noticed the instructions were for maverick so as suggested might be outdated. Installing on a mac is not for the faint at heart, never done it but it does not look like fun.
[04:56] <bagels_> soreau reason i ask when i hit the Super button, or go-home-applet, my desktop flashes and i don't get a program picker.
[04:56] <vaccine> urfr332gO, only a couple minor issues, it's too bad the how-to doesn't seem to work.  Im not giving up yet =)
[04:56] <CFHowlett> urfr332gO   agreed.
[04:56] <urfr332gO> vaccine, you might be installed I have not followed your posts.
[04:56] <urfr332gO> not sure I would even try lol.
[05:00] <L3top> !alsa-base
[05:00] <pleiades> cynase but cool hand luke is so pimp..
[05:00] <Huundur> hey guys i was just wondering if i could have some help installing nmap for ubuntu
[05:00] <urfr332gO> pleiades, you on the correct channel?
[05:01] <pleiades> it just mad..
[05:01] <L3top> I can eat 50 eggs.
[05:01] <urfr332gO> L3top, why would you?
[05:01] <Huundur> anyone?
[05:01] <urfr332gO> !nmap
[05:01]  * L3top was quoting cool hand luke... sorry
[05:01] <pleiades> i have kids.. their like real bad bots
[05:02] <Huundur> I just need to know how to set up nmap lol sudo ap get isn't helping because
[05:02] <bagels_> L3top: are you Gaston from disney's beauty and the beast
[05:02] <urfr332gO> !info nmap
[05:02] <L3top> !nmap
[05:02] <L3top> I see...
[05:02] <L3top> info
[05:02] <Huundur> look it wants me to use sudo apt get to get nmap and it says when i try to get it Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package nmap
[05:02] <pleiades> eat it
[05:02] <L3top> can you specify a distro version?
[05:03] <drounse> hi, i cant get my computer to boot a usb, i have before but i cant anymore
[05:03] <Huundur> im trying to get 5.51
[05:03] <CFHowlett> drounse  you have to change the bios during POST
[05:03] <Huundur> the distro version i mean is 5.51
[05:03] <sacarlson> Huundur: did you try sudo apt-get update ?
[05:03] <L3top> Huundur: apt-cache policy nmap
[05:03] <drounse> CFHowlett i have my BIOS set to boot from usb
[05:04] <L3top> is there anything under candidate?
[05:04] <urfr332gO> Huundur, here is a link never used it myself may be in a repo you don't have open. http://namhuy.org/blog/2007/08/16/how-to-install-nmap-into-ubuntu/
[05:04] <CFHowlett> drounse   what's it doing then?
[05:04] <drounse> CFHowlett it keeps saying "Boot Error"
[05:04] <L3top> !info alsa-base
[05:05] <CFHowlett> drounse   I'd say recreate your boot usb.
[05:05] <Huundur> L3top it says "N: Unable to locate package map"
[05:05] <urfr332gO> Huundur, you have the multiverse repo open?
[05:05] <L3top> what version are you on?
[05:05] <L3top> and
[05:05] <L3top> that
[05:05] <urfr332gO> I'm jusdt guessing though.
[05:06] <sacarlson> Huundur: what version of ubuntu did you say you were running?
[05:06] <urfr332gO> just*
[05:06] <drounse> CFHowlett i have many times, ive tried different distros too, i want ubuntu server tho... also a few days ago i got it to boot, and install then after i rebooted it hung on the page that says "Ubuntu" with the dots loading
[05:06] <pleiades> why not using rdp?
[05:06] <Huundur> im using 11.04
[05:07] <sacarlson> Huundur: sounds like you forgot to do sudo apt-get update or you might change the repo host if that's not it
[05:07] <CFHowlett> drounse   have you md5sum checked these iso
[05:08] <L3top> Huundur: are you familiar with pastebin?
[05:08] <L3top> or pastebinit
[05:08] <Huundur> -_- im fucking retarded its downloadin the update now
[05:08] <sacarlson> Huundur: thank you
[05:08] <Huundur> at least i think it is...thats what it looks like its doing ....thhanks guys...let see if this works
[05:09] <drounse> CFHowlett yes i have
[05:09] <drounse> CFHowlett ive checked everything from the iso, to the hardware and cannot find anything wrong
[05:10] <drounse> CFHowlett ive used unetbootin and startup disk creator
[05:11] <CFHowlett> drounse   if you're getting a completed installation, there's something in that configuration that's causing your issues.
[05:11] <gdeeble> Hey, I was wondering if anyone is any good with serial console setups?  ;P
[05:12] <bagels_> when i hit the Super button, or go-home-applet, my desktop flashes and i don't get a program picker.  How can i figure this out?
[05:12] <sacarlson> Huundur: we all make mistakes and will all continue to make them, no one is perfect
[05:13] <Huundur> right alright im off to get a shitload more apps now that i can lol
[05:13] <drounse> CFHowlett i only got a completed installation once and that was last week, i havent been able to boot the usb, i am installing on a new usb, but i have gotten the usb to work on my main desktop, so i think it might be hardware related but ive completely take then computer apart and reassembled and still cant get it to work
[05:13] <Nach0z> log: yup
[05:13] <drounse> L3top no unfortunatly
[05:13] <Nach0z> you aint kiddin
[05:13] <CFHowlett> drounse   suspect hardware is reasonable.  Sorry, IDK what to tell you...
[05:14] <drounse> CFHowlett thats ok, i just cant think of what the problem would be, i might try to update the BIOS and maybe itll hlp
[05:14] <CFHowlett> drounse   good luck
[05:14] <drounse> CFHowlett thanks
[05:15] <L3top> drounse: I didn't see... are you using more than one usb drive?
[05:16] <sacarlson> drounse: I guess you need to at least get the grub console active instead of the flash blinker to get an idea where the problem is locking up
[05:16] <L3top> typically you can just hit escape and it will show console activity
[05:16] <pleiades> yeah.. plan your missions wisely.. for youve only got one shot
[05:17] <drounse> L3top yes, i have three usb flash drives, and i have tried in multiple usb ports on the computer, the computer is picking up that the usb is in but for some reason it wont boot
[05:17] <sacarlson> L3top: drounse: cool try that esc thing then
[05:18] <drounse> sacarlson ok
[05:18] <FreezeRay> There sure is a pile of people in here.
[05:18] <FreezeRay> (o:
[05:18] <sacarlson> drounse: best guess is that is don't like your graphic adapter and stops there, if so maybe force vga until you find drivers that work
[05:19] <FreezeRay> So I am having issues installing ubunto.  I keep getting hangups  during the install process...  they seem to be related to disk formating.
[05:20] <drounse> sacarlson i have used a usb before on this computer and got it working fine, this used to be my old primary desktop like a month ago, then i got a new chassis plugged everything and it worked, i switched out hard drives and let it sit for a while while i used my other computer, when i came back maybe a week later ive been having nothing but trouble
[05:21] <FreezeRay> Has anyone need lockups during the "creating ext4 file system for / parition #1..." during an install from USB/boot CD?
[05:21] <sacarlson> drounse: when it was working I'm not sure you were using the same version of ubuntu, or something else broke,  disable all internal components in bios is another option
[05:22] <FreezeRay> seen*
[05:22] <drounse> sacarlson it was the same version of ubuntu, i havent touched anything, thats why i cant figure out whats wrong :/
[05:22] <nibbier> FreezeRay, use alternative installer cd if you runinto trouble....
[05:23] <sacarlson> drounse: well your blind until you see the grub console and what the problem might be
[05:23] <drounse> if i want to update my bios will i need freedos?
[05:23] <drounse> sacarlson i cant see anything
[05:24] <gdeeble> drounse, depends on the motherboard. I know my asus boards, I've hit ALT + F2 and throw the bios rom on a usb drive and flash that way.
[05:24] <sacarlson> drounse: yes I know that's why L3top suggested the esc key to enable grub console, not sure it works or not
[05:25] <drounse> gdeeble i have an emachine board but the file is an .exe
[05:25] <drounse> sacarlson the esc key does nothing
[05:26] <FreezeRay> Nibber: I don't think this is an Alt installer issue.  Everything runs very well live.
[05:26] <sacarlson> drounse: well it's now installed can the boot configs be changed so that you can see the grub console?
[05:26] <sacarlson> drounse: oh but this is on the usb so can't be changed?
[05:27] <ludwin01> alguien habla español?
[05:27] <drounse> sacarlson its not installed, it was installed on another hdd, but i needed it for my main computer so i have a smaller hdd in with no OS, yes this is a USB
[05:27] <FreezeRay> Nibbler: also I'd be totally lost with text based install...  lol
[05:27] <dj> ludwin01, #Ubuntu-es
[05:27] <gdeeble> drounse, the question comes then, is it a dos file, if so, freedos should work on a USB key from what I know. I'd check the bios for an EZ Flash option to be sure before running through a headache to flash it. IMO
[05:28] <ludwin01> very funy @dj
[05:28] <WillMarshall> Question for you guys. I have a bunch of peak volume readings from a digital audio source being streamed to me in 10ms intervals
[05:28] <WillMarshall> I'm trying to turn that into a useful graphical display on a column of 9 LEDs, as per analog DJ mixers etc
[05:28] <WillMarshall> Does anyone have any idea where I'd start looking to find out what kinds of processing I can use on this datastream to get good-looking results?
[05:28] <Name141> When is the next release estimated? April ?
[05:28] <sacarlson> drounse: I'm running out of idea's so maybe pxeboot from the other system?  maybe the problem is the usb hardware
[05:29] <CFHowlett> Name141   end of april 2012
[05:29] <drounse> gdeeble well it has an easy way to install the update but its from within a windows pc and i currently have no OS
[05:29] <primenumber> Hi all
[05:29] <drounse> ! | pxeboot
[05:29] <Name141> CFHowlett: Then looks like if I want to get on the Ubuntu train I might as well do it now seeing as it's 2 months from the next release.
[05:29] <pleiades> what.. in the.. name of christ.. and all.. that is holy.. happened to brainwreck.. right in the middle of mt chat.. <---- is NOT happy.. in.. fact.. im furious
[05:29] <drounse> sacarlson whats pxeboot?
[05:30] <Pecker> pxeboot = if you are getting os from a network server aka ltsp
[05:30] <sacarlson> drounse: boot from ethernet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYQCFEnjWYA
[05:30] <pleiades> the book of listsisagreat book
[05:30] <primenumber> is unity worth using, or should I stick with 10.04
[05:30] <Pecker> primenumber: imo sitkck with 10.04
[05:31] <Pecker> my reason, informal testing with nexuiz game, 10.04 gets double fps
[05:31] <primenumber> is the power bug any better in 11.10?
[05:31] <drounse> sacarlson thank you ill try right now
[05:33] <gdeeble> Curious, does anyone know if you can use a USB Serial adapter or Serial PCI Add-on card as a console port for a server? My on-board serial port just keeps dumping random letters like the settings are wrong but they match 100% the server and client machine.
[05:34] <ludwin01> anybody has configured a omega webcam?
[05:34] <pleiades> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swGBlDn_yiI&feature=related
[05:34] <CFHowlett> !ot|pleiades
[05:34] <pleiades> got given a few years,I wonder if they find gold.. Since writing that note, my concerns about nuclear power mainly how do I need to amke myself a semiagnostic protestant that believes in science and culture in the ocen 40 miles north of boston..
[05:34] <pleiades> you guys have a good night and thanks for the help. I have some work ahaead of me.. ahead*
[05:35] <pex> k
[05:36] <pex> network##
[05:36] <SubjectOne> good morning
[05:37] <terminhell> good morow
[05:37] <CFHowlett> SubjectOne   greetings
[05:37] <pex> good day
[05:38] <tazjin> In case anyone cares, after three hours of waiting it finally appears that kubuntu-full is the package with the most dependencies. Followed by gnome-desktop-environment
[05:38] <tazjin> Good night :3
[05:38] <bagels_> when i hit the Super button, or go-home-applet, my desktop flashes and i don't get a program picker.  How can i figure this out?
[05:39] <pex> nightmare
[05:39] <Pecker> anyone have keybord and mouse freezes in 10.04?
[05:39] <pleiades> stealcian i still havent written ciao a letter to your right..
[05:40] <pex> i have 11
[05:40] <pex> norwal
[05:40] <pex> narwal
[05:40] <L3top> no Pecker.
[05:41] <pex> have you tried it in a terminal?
[05:42] <pex> to bagels, the terminal question
[05:42] <Pecker> darn, seesm noone can figure this out
[05:43] <bagels_> pex what?
[05:43] <bagels_> let me see here
[05:43] <pex> can you navigate that way in your term?
[05:44] <gdeeble> bagels_, could try a live cd and see if happens there?
[05:44] <bagels_> pex narwhal is a version number i thought
[05:45] <bagels_> pex gdeeble i'm running ubuntu ubermix
[05:45] <pleiades> my ad has a.308 (223) umm.. wtfis it called.. the auto the mil uses.. shit iforget
[05:45] <pex> i get them mixed up
[05:45] <makara> i'm using jpegoptim to convert a whole lot of files, but they're in recursive folders and the app has no recursive option. What are my options?
[05:45] <bagels_> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oEGXTEGgX-I/TJ5UE4ZeUEI/AAAAAAAAAPs/tyPTriejXMA/s1600/Screenshot.png pex gdeeble it is supposed to look like this
[05:45] <pex> i hate using dos for networking.
[05:46] <pex> gimme a sec to checkitout in another browser window
[05:46] <makara> is there some nifty bash sequence I can use to feed files into this program?
[05:47] <terminhell> you could just use a bash script
[05:47] <pex> you want the program picker on the left side right?
[05:47] <pleiades> was that a joke kick flamoot
[05:47] <bagels_> pex yes, and all i have is a flashing desktop
[05:48] <bagels_> pex i can't figure out what got corrupted
[05:48] <terminhell> makara: put all the autoconvert options with all the directories you want on seperate lines
[05:49] <makara> terminhell: I don't understand
[05:49] <pex> just re-load it! thats the beauty. if it was hacked you want to do that any way.
[05:49] <pleiades> since i quit booze and smoke pot.. like.. i notice colors are brighter.. nad stuff.. i been drawing alot
[05:50] <terminhell> makara: the tool your using, does it have a cli too?
[05:50] <makara> terminhell: there are many directories
[05:50] <makara> terminhell: what's cli?
[05:50] <bagels_> pex it wasn't hacked.  I screwed up a setting somewhere
[05:50] <makara> its very basic 'jpegoptim'
[05:50] <pex> you could also use the 'launcher' app  to open those programs you can't get to.
[05:50] <terminhell> .........................................*face palms................
[05:51] <makara> don't give me that please
[05:51] <bagels_> i don't have launcher
[05:51] <terminhell> makara: the terminal...command line interface
[05:51] <terminhell> aka 'dos prompt'
[05:51] <makara> its only terminal
[05:52] <pex> not the panel, the one from ubu 10.4 i think
[05:52] <CFHowlett> terminhell   "dos prompt?  grrrrrr
[05:52] <pex> dosky
[05:52] <terminhell> CFHowlett: i didnt want to say that, trust me
[05:53] <CFHowlett> terminhell   forgiven ... THIS time.
[05:53] <pex> bagles, what os are you using
[05:53] <terminhell> makara: is this a nautilus script that you downloaded? or, nvm, you said its cli only
[05:53] <Django_Novice> hi there
[05:53] <makara> sudo apt-get install jpegoptim
[05:53] <K0wb0yK0der> hi!
[05:53] <Django_Novice> any one have idea of No machine??
[05:53] <pleiades> print out y should I get blue screens of death to an Opteron one, I may have been calling me still but she is an anagram of "Pig indictable, glib boogie.. Junk connivant nerd abhors..
[05:54] <terminhell> so then just make a bash script by creating a new document, and then start it off with #!/bin/sh and on the next line start putting in the jpegoptim command followed by ../dir_name && ../dir_name2
[05:54] <K0wb0yK0der> No machine?..i know of No-SQL. but not No machine.
[05:55] <clarinet> Hi, guys.
[05:55] <makara> terminhell: thanks for your suggestion
[05:55] <Django_Novice> Im talking about NX
[05:55] <Django_Novice> NX for VMware
[05:55] <clarinet> How to boot into safe mode through GRUB 2?
[05:55] <clarinet> Anyone can help me?
[05:56] <K0wb0yK0der> oooooooh
[05:56] <terminhell> makara: ive not used the program personally so im not sure if that will work. you may have to do the paths individually. But at least you can cp/paste and let the script run it all for you afterwards
[05:56] <K0wb0yK0der> no i cant help. im only familar with the basics of ESX 4.0
[05:56] <gdeeble> Curious, does anyone know if you can use a USB Serial adapter or Serial PCI Add-on card as a console port for a server? My on-board serial port just keeps dumping random letters like the settings are wrong but they match 100% the server and client machine.
[05:57] <Django_Novice> I just want to get the existing session on a different machine
[05:57] <skorket> I can consistently crash my computer when plugging in an arduino compatible device.  I am running Ubuntu 11.10, 3.0.0-15-generic.  It uses an ftdi driver to communicate.  Does anyone have suggestions on how to fix this?
[05:57] <terminhell> gdeeble: no idea =/
[05:57] <clarinet> It seem like Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't have save mode option in recovery mode.
[05:57] <florda> dadle}
[05:57] <K0wb0yK0der> google would be more helpful then me :( sorry mate
[05:57] <clarinet> safe mode
[05:58] <florda> quien?
[05:58] <K0wb0yK0der> Clarinet, why are you looking for a 'safemode' option
[05:58] <clarinet> My OS type is x64
[05:58] <brian1992> in google chrome, how do i update the flash to 10.1
[05:59] <clarinet> There is nvidia driver installed on my system, but when I change ati card, It can't boot normally.
[05:59] <clarinet> so, I want to boot into safe mode.
[05:59] <pleiades> lol.. im out from that stagnant cycle i was in denmark
[05:59] <clarinet> and install ati driver.
[06:00] <gdeeble> Boo! Google doesn't seem to bring up an answer to my question.  When I try to do it, the server hangs trying to initialize the card I think, not really sure tho.
[06:02] <ZeloZelos> can i make one empty rotate and its rotation translated to move another empty along the x, the rotating one rotates around y
[06:02] <clarinet> Does anyone know how to boot into safe mode in Ubuntu 11.10 x64?
[06:02] <ZeloZelos> oh,,oops wrong channel :)
[06:07] <skorket> looking at the syslog, I see a message 'INFO: task khubd:26 blocked for more than 120 seconds.' which happened right at the time of the system hang
[06:07] <brian> Hello
[06:07] <pleiades> lets fuck.. HAWWW
[06:08] <Guest40224> Anyone able to help me with some WINE issues?>
[06:08] <GhostWolf> hi, i just upgraded to 11.10 ubuntu, does anyone know if there is a way to install a theme for ubuntu? i know theres 4 pre-installed themes for it, but i don't like any of em and i want to use a different theme
[06:08] <pleiades> how would i go back to a 2.6 kernel>
[06:08] <c_smith> pleiades, keep it clean
[06:08] <clarinet> Does anyone know how to boot into safe mode in Ubuntu 11.10 x64?
[06:08] <pleiades> no i am
[06:08] <pangolin> pleiades: Please mind your language and topic.
[06:08] <c_smith> not with the language before......
[06:08] <pleiades> is some device made in australia that has certain breathing mixture with like half the amount of the show she is pretty hot but they are useful..
[06:09] <c_smith> pleiades, I'm afraid you lost me there......
[06:09] <pleiades> on this stats tracker on myspace.. i just thought it was odd.. 42 and 999 together just like that hit at the same time
[06:09] <Guest40224> WINE won't provide me any audio, can anyone help me with this?
[06:09] <GhostWolf> clarient safe mode should be selected in the grub menu
[06:09] <CFHowlett> !ot|pleiades
[06:09] <pleiades> word.. i'm gonna reset his corpus to pure beetris again soon.. he's powered by beetris' brain.. brb
[06:09] <pleiades> you dont feel angry very often on antipsychotics and if you have hallucination or delusion problems they help with those
[06:09] <macmartine> why might my syslog be taking up 100% cpu?
[06:09] <clarinet> Hi, anyone can help me?
[06:09] <clarinet> How to boot into safe mode?
[06:09] <GhostWolf> clarinet, i just told you how..
[06:10] <Guest40224> So, can anyone assist me in getting my audio to work with WINE in Ubuntu?
[06:10] <CFHowlett> !patience|Guest40224
[06:11] <GhostWolf> does anyone know how to install a different theme to 11.10?
[06:11] <ZzBomb> I want to print 10 pages doublesided but my printer does not have a duplex feature, any way to manually invoke it? I saw gnome-manual-duplex but according to other people online it sounds like it's just going to break and I dont feel like wasting paper.
[06:12] <Guest40224> Another unrelated question.  Is there any way to "boost" the audio  volume?  When I play some songs they seem too quiet.  I've tried PulseAudio Volume Control and it doesn't make it louder than I can already get it.
[06:12] <fairuz_> Hi, how to clear apt-cacher caches? Can I just delete all the contents in /var/cache/apt-cacher
[06:12] <clarinet> sorry, there are some problem with my network.
[06:12] <CFHowlett> fairuz_   sudo apt-get clean
[06:12] <lorrien3> can anyone see me
[06:12] <ZzBomb> Guest40224: There is a way to make it go over then 100% in the sound settings, also software like VLC has an amplifier.
[06:12] <lorrien3> can anyone see me?
[06:13] <ZzBomb> lorrien3: We see you.
[06:13] <CFHowlett> lorrien3   icu
[06:13] <clarinet> It seem like Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't have safe mode option in recovery mode.
[06:13] <macmartine> lorrien3: no
[06:13] <L3top> Guest40224: I assume you have gone to wine/configure wine/audio
[06:13] <clarinet> I'm running 64-bit system.
[06:13] <fairuz_> CFHowlett: That will clean local cache right? Will it clean cache from apt-cacher too?
[06:13] <ZzBomb> clarinet: go into recovery mode? you can access a recovery terminal that way
[06:13] <GhostWolf> clarinet do you know how to get the grub menu?
[06:13] <Guest40224> L3top: Yes, I've gone through the wine/audio configuration
[06:13] <CFHowlett> fairuz_   as I understand it, yes
[06:13] <L3top> what audio driver did it choose for you?
[06:14] <clarinet> Yeah.
[06:14] <Guest40224> L3top: OSS
[06:14] <clarinet> There no safe mode option in recovery mode.
[06:14] <fairuz_> CFHowlett: Hm that's not good. What if I just want to clean my local cache?
[06:14] <clarinet> I don't know how to enter safe mode in terminal.
[06:14] <GhostWolf> clarinet, recovery mode is same as safe mode for linux/ubuntu.
[06:14] <CFHowlett> fairuz_ sorry that's the only cache cleaner I'm familiar with.
[06:14] <L3top> I really only know anything about alsa
[06:14] <ZzBomb> clarinet: I've never heard of a safe mode in linux. It's same as recovery
[06:15] <clarinet> Oh, yes. but how to run in low graphics mode?
[06:15] <fairuz_> CFHowlett: ok thanks
[06:15] <clarinet> OK
[06:15] <ZzBomb> clarinet: try starting x. If you cannot, open a terminal and run recovery scripts to get it running again
[06:15] <clarinet> There is nvidia driver installed on my system, but when I change ati card, It can't boot normally.
[06:15] <ZzBomb> There are about 100 tutorials for it on the ubuntuforums.
[06:15] <GhostWolf> does anyone know if there is a way to install themes for the new 11.10 ubuntu?
[06:16] <ZzBomb> GhostWolf: Appearance manager?
[06:16] <crizzy> GhostWolf: themes should be copied to ~/.themes/
[06:16] <crizzy> ZzBomb: no such thing in gnome3 :)
[06:16] <ZzBomb> crizzy: Ah I forgot that got removed, I still dont understand why.
[06:16] <GhostWolf> ZzBomb i have no idea i don't know how the 11.10 works, in 11.04 you were able to install it from the same area as you change your desktop screen
[06:17] <crizzy> ZzBomb: i bet it comes back later on in gnome3 cycle
[06:17] <crizzy> ZzBomb: wasn't exactly 'removed', just wasn't rewritten back in the g3 cycle
[06:17] <ZzBomb> GhostWolf: like crizzy said then .. copy into  ~/.themes/
[06:17] <GhostWolf> crizzy, ok but i don't know how to install some of these i downloaded i just know how to install them from the appearance window on the previous ubuntu versions
[06:17] <crizzy> ZzBomb: nothing unusual, original gnome 2.0 missed *a lot* of features, they just put the initial work on the platform
[06:17] <ZzBomb> crizzy: that's kinda the equivalent of being removed.
[06:18] <crizzy> ZzBomb: but yes, it is ugly that you can't even change fonts without tweak tool
[06:18] <Guest40224> L3top: When I go to my audio preferences though under applications it says somethign about ALSA, not OSS
[06:18] <ZzBomb> crizzy: I think there is a tweak tool you can install. I dont remember the package name and it might be in a ppa
[06:18] <crizzy> GhostWolf: don't they come up with instructions? depends a bit on theme too
[06:18] <GhostWolf> crizzy, not all of them
[06:18] <crizzy> ZzBomb: gnome-tweak-tool
[06:18] <ZzBomb> Go figure..
[06:19] <ZzBomb> :3
[06:19] <crizzy> GhostWolf: ok, general way to install themes is this:
[06:19] <newbie007> anyone here using GIMX ?
[06:19] <crizzy> GhostWolf: open nautilus. press ctrl-l, type ~/.themes/ there, open your theme .tar.gz by clicking it, drag contents to ~/.themes
[06:19] <ZzBomb> Well hey, if anyone wants a challenge, help me figure out how to manually print double sided without the function built into printer.
[06:20] <crizzy> GhostWolf: then select it from 'advanced settings' (which is package: gnome-tweak-tool)
[06:20] <GhostWolf> ok crizzy i'll try that. do you know if there are spefici themes done just for 11.10? or is it all versatile?
[06:20] <Guest40224> Played around with some random audio settings
[06:20] <Guest40224> it seems to play audio through wine now
[06:20] <crizzy> GhostWolf: this is a bit ugly atm, but i'm sure these options will come back later on in gnome3 cycles. 12.04 already restores many old missing style configuration options
[06:20] <Guest40224> but I can't seem tog et spotify to open now
[06:20] <L3top> Ok...
[06:20] <crizzy> GhostWolf: just look for GTK3 themes :)
[06:20] <Guest40224> Spotify used to open fine using wine, now it doesn't
[06:20] <Guest40224> Have they changed it recently?
[06:21] <L3top> Guest40224: apt-cache policy alsa-base
[06:21] <crizzy> Guest40224: i use native linux client, works fine
[06:21] <Guest40224> crizzy: Don't you need premium for the native client?
[06:21] <GhostWolf> crizzy, is the gtk3 themes different than themes for the 11.04 themes at all?
[06:21] <Guest40224> L3top: What is that for?
[06:21] <L3top> see if there is a version installed
[06:21] <ZzBomb> Guest40224: I imagine they regularly update spotify. At least they did when I was using in windows, although you should have noticed it generally asks you.
[06:21] <c_smith> Guest40224, have you tried the native client.
[06:21] <L3top> it tells me what is available, and what is installed
[06:21] <crizzy> Guest40224: yes, you do. but i need it for android/3g streaming anyway
[06:21] <c_smith> *?
[06:22] <crizzy> GhostWolf: well, yes. 11.04 and earlier used gnome2 and gtk2
[06:22] <crizzy> GhostWolf: i don't think these themes are compatible
[06:22] <crizzy> GhostWolf: big version transitions are always a bit painful, but this'll be much better again when 12.04 comes out