[21:42] <ki7mt> Hello all, just got my Ubuntu Membership and would like to request a cloak: ubuntu/member/ki7mt  my primary IRC account is registered under SaberX01 and LP account is: https://launchpad.net/~ki7mt ; per the Wiki, it said I should request here?
[21:43] <Fuchs> ki7mt: congratulations on the membership, yes, just wait for someone of the IRCC and then hope that they will find an active staffie
[21:44] <ki7mt> Fuchs, OK, thanks, I'll leave this open until then.
[21:45] <Fuchs> that's a good idea, because usually confirmation is required :)
[21:45] <ki7mt> Yes, I would think so :-) .. I have a generic cloak now, but thought it would be good to update it as well.
[21:49] <hggdh> ki7mt: cloak like your nick?, or like your login on freenode?
[21:50] <Fuchs> apparently like the nick, as per what he wrote
[21:50] <Fuchs> ubuntu/member/ki7mt  <<   (note that roo is currently active, given I haven't seen an active staffer in the 5 hours before, that would be a good catch)
[21:50] <hggdh> aye. bad eyes and all (Unity 8 just installed)
[21:51]  * Fuchs ponders trollish comment, doesn't
[21:51] <hggdh> :-)
[21:52] <hggdh> ki7mt: asking for a cloak on #freenode. As Fuchs pointed out, now we wait for a staffer.
[21:53] <ki7mt> Ok hggdh Thank you.
[21:59] <hggdh> Fuchs: (curiosity only) what is happening with the freenode staff? They seem much less active now
[22:00] <Fuchs> hggdh: they are just understaffed after the recent firings, and it's not exactly easy to find decent staff material
[22:01] <Fuchs> while I personally am not very happy with 1) and what did lead to it, I at least can say that I fully agree on 2).
[22:01] <hggdh> Fuchs: ack
[22:01] <Fuchs> well
[22:02] <Fuchs> to be honest I think 2) is partially also a solvable problem. Or was. Currently there really isn't decent staff material around. Anyway. I might be heavily biased
[22:02]  * hggdh wonders why ;-)
[22:02] <hggdh> Fuchs: thank you for your prod there, BTW
[22:04] <Fuchs> you're welcome, let's see if it helps
[22:04] <ki7mt> I have a meeting I just got called to,  will leave this open, hopefully I won't miss their queries.
[22:06] <Fuchs> oh, or that might do  *tries prodding Pricey with a muffin*
[22:06] <Pricey> Fuchs?
[22:06] <Fuchs> yay
[22:06] <Fuchs> PriceChilde: hggdh needed an ubuntu member cloak for ki7mt :)
[22:07] <hggdh> PriceChilde: if you have time, yes
[22:07] <PriceChilde> ki7mt: Assuming you want this?
[22:08] <hggdh> cloak ubuntu/member/ki7mt for SaberX01
[22:08] <Fuchs> he just left for a meeting, hope he'll get back to it later :)
[22:09] <PriceChilde> Meh, I'll trust you this time.
[22:09] <Fuchs> ♥
[22:09] <hggdh> :-)
[22:10] <hggdh> PriceChilde: thank you
[22:11] <PriceChilde> hggdh: No probs.
[22:34] <ki7mt> I back .. if there's anything one needs form me on my cloak request?
[22:35] <Fuchs> ki7mt: it got taken care of :)
[22:35] <ki7mt> Fuchs, Thank you !!
[22:35] <Fuchs> fortunately a friendly member of staff was not only found but happy to skip the usual procedure, so congratulations on your new and shiny cloak
[22:35] <Fuchs> it comes with a dagger and half a muffin
[22:36] <ki7mt> I've been after UB membership for a long time .. Now Im after Bug Control (lots to learn) and hopefully into MOTU
[22:43] <ki7mt> Thanks for all the help, roo sent me a message saying all is well. Take care.


[01:52] <LinDol> hi all
[14:17] <plugaru> Hi guys
[14:17] <plugaru> When the update from 16.04 to 16.04.1 will be available via Update Manager?
[14:24] <LinDol> hi :)
[14:25] <LinDol> I think it is right, it will be advised by Updater.
[14:26] <LinDol> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME/Upgrade
[14:27] <LinDol> update manger will offer you
[14:34] <plugaru> Someone updated from Update Manager now?
[15:07] <LinDol> i am not yet
[15:08] <LinDol> See u again, have a great night :)
[15:08] <plugaru> thanks


[13:04] <mgedmin> hm, nobody made a gnome shell extension to count down the days remaining until the 14.04 release?  I am disappoint
[15:50] <fooctrl> how do you sync gnome packages from gnome to your ppa's?
[15:51] <fooctrl> I'm assuming it's not automatic process, as I see 73 out of 195 3.12 package up to date in Debian archives
[15:52] <fooctrl> depending on how it's done I might be available to help you with this
[15:57] <mgedmin> the packaging team does all the work, AFAIU: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Packaging
[16:03] <fooctrl> I'd say I'm pretty good with packaging as I maintain Eclipse in Debian and couple of other packages
[16:03] <fooctrl> the only problem is that I don't know how much time would I be able to devote to packaging Ubuntu GNOME stuff ...
[16:10] <fooctrl> it would be awesome if we could just sync packages from debian to ppa's
[16:12] <mgedmin> hm, if you simply download the source deb and reupload it with dput to your ppa... or do you need to bump the version number before it will be accepted?
[16:13] <mgedmin> pull-debian-source from ubuntu-dev-tools can be useful
[16:14]  * mgedmin is not all that familiar with ubuntu archive tools/workflows; sometimes he publishes some packages into a PPA
[16:15] <mgedmin> I think at the moment ubuntu-gnome packagers are focusing on fixing bugs in 3.10 packages for the upcoming 14.04 release; 3.12 in the ppa will probably get some love once 14.04 is out
[16:15] <mgedmin> this is just speculation
[16:24] <fooctrl> ok, I'll think more about this whole situation
[20:47] <uwe__> is it ok to file a bug against the gnome3-staging ppa?
[20:50] <Noskcaj> uwe__, make the bug against "ubuntu-gnome"
[20:55] <uwe__> thanks


[14:19] <guilhem_> Hi all
[14:19] <guilhem_> I have some problem with launchpad recipe + dh_exec
[14:20] <guilhem_> here is the recipe https://code.launchpad.net/~guilhem-fr/+recipe/speex-asterisk-daily
[14:20] <guilhem_> with build error https://launchpadlibrarian.net/152755496/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.speex_1.2~rc1-2~19~ubuntu12.04.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz for example
[14:21] <guilhem_> it look like launchpad don't care of execution bit on libspeex1.install ...
[14:21] <cjwatson> I suspect that bzr loses it when resolving conflicts
[14:23] <cjwatson> Hm, mind you, no conflicts there
[14:23] <cjwatson> Oh, no, I see
[14:23] <cjwatson> Look at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/152753588/buildlog.txt.gz
[14:23] <cjwatson> dpkg-source: warning: executable mode 0700 of 'debian/libspeex1.install' will not be represented in diff
[14:23] <cjwatson> dpkg-source: warning: executable mode 0700 of 'debian/libspeexdsp1.install' will not be represented in diff
[14:23] <guilhem_> Yes I see it
[14:23] <cjwatson> It'd work if you were using source format 3.0 (quilt) instead
[14:25] <guilhem_> ok thanks, I will test with that
[14:25] <cjwatson> That is, create debian/source/format with content "3.0 (quilt)"
[14:25] <cjwatson> Though you'll have a problem with that since the speex source package has patches not in debian/patches/
[14:26] <cjwatson> guilhem_: I think for this package you need to use the "In debian/rules" approach from https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation#Dynamic_debian.2F.2A_files rather than dh-exec
[14:26] <cjwatson> At least until it's converted to 3.0 (quilt), which is probably pretty awkward to do in a recipe
[14:29] <guilhem_> cjwatson, You are right :) I don't need dh-exec :)
[16:25] <Laney> is there a way to get the signer of an upload queue item?
[16:27] <cjwatson> Doesn't seem to be exported right now
[16:28] <cjwatson> it's PackageUpload.signing_key.owner internally ...
[17:34] <excalibr> Do we have mediawiki extension for itegrating launchpad openid with mediawiki?
[17:35] <dobey> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mediawiki-extensions found via quick search for "launchpad openid mediawiki"
[17:44] <excalibr> just checked the file and sadly it doesn't have launchpad provider
[17:45] <dobey> it has openid. anyone can put in the launchpad url for the openid and use that to create an account on the mediawiki
[17:48] <dobey> ugh. launchpad keeps stripping off the trailing 0 in "13.10" for the milestones i'm creating, and then errors out about there not being a "13.10" milestone (because of course it broke and renamed it to "13.1")
[17:53] <cjwatson> I believe you need to use the non-AJAX form for that
[17:53] <cjwatson> If I'm remembering something wgrant said a while back correctly
[17:58] <excalibr> why is that?
[17:58] <cjwatson> Bug
[18:06] <dobey> cjwatson: do you have a bug #?
[18:07] <dobey> also, how do you even get to the "non-ajax" form? the only "create a milestone" link on the page is the ajaxy one
[21:54] <saiarcot895> Should regular users be able to see other people's SSH keys?
[21:57] <cjwatson> Yes - they're only public keys.
[21:58] <saiarcot895> Ok, then there might be a slight bug here: https://launchpad.net/~jasoncwarner
[21:58] <saiarcot895> The entire key is being shown rather than just the comment
[21:58] <saiarcot895> in the link text
[21:58] <wgrant> The user pased the key incorrectly.
[21:58] <wgrant> pasted
[21:59] <wgrant> It's not meant to have all those spaces in it.
[21:59] <wgrant> Looks like it was word-wrapped.
[22:00] <wgrant> So everything from 'OraTQh' is considered part of the key comment.
[22:01] <saiarcot895> ah, ok
[22:03] <cjwatson> That's still a public key, anyway.


[11:50] <JohnDotHR> Hey guys, what's your opinion on developing Ubuntu apps with PyQt
[14:21] <daker> hi kalikiana or zsombi do you guys know why Menu/MenuGroup don't work(Menu is not a type) ? i am using 15.04.6 sdk


[08:18] <netritious> cyberanger: I just got tired of juggling and balancing in the attic when putting up christmas decorations.
[08:19] <netritious> pretty sure I don't need giant compaq proliant server packaging any more heh


[03:45] <rtnd0g> hi
[03:46] <rtnd0g> Does anyone here know anything about Virtual Packages and/or Meta Packages in apt-get?


[00:09] <Marius80> yofel, I need to restart my system
[00:09] <Marius80> see you soon
[00:32] <Marius80> yofel?
[00:32] <Marius80> yofel, exactly the same problem with KDE 4.9.3
[00:34] <yofel> check if it's fixed with the new package once it's out, if not please file a bug
[00:34]  * yofel is off to bed now
[00:34] <Marius80> yofel, ok, thank you so far
[00:35] <Marius80> bye bye and sleep fine :)
[00:37] <xixor> sup
[01:10] <afkael> Hi, I have two disks, one with kubuntu, another with Win7
[01:12] <afkael> how to add the entry in grub to boot windows
[02:09] <voidcomp> just did an update to 12.04.  Now no sound!
[02:09] <voidcomp> ideas?
[02:13] <frogonwheels> voidcomp: !sound
[02:13] <frogonwheels> !audio
[02:14] <frogonwheels> voidcomp: You might suggest what you've tried/observed.  Have you run alsamixer - checked the sound levels - is there a sound card detected, what is it, etc, etc.
[02:15] <voidcomp> yes, alsamixer  has been checked
[02:15] <voidcomp> yes, card is detected
[02:15] <voidcomp> !sound
[02:16] <voidcomp> what gets me is everything was working just fine before
[02:16] <voidcomp> guess that's what i get for upgrading
[02:16] <voidcomp> crap
[02:17] <xixor> :(
[02:20] <voidcomp> no biggy, i did a drive image prior.  I've learned :)
[02:22] <xixor> you opened up kmix
[02:22] <xixor> and made sure the right audio device is the default?
[02:23] <xixor> I know the "Master channel" of the playback devices was set to the wrong device for me
[02:23] <xixor> because my GPU has an HDMI digital stereo output
[02:24] <xixor> so nthing was working, and the volume on the taskbar wasn't changing the right sound source
[02:24] <xixor> and try running alsamixer from the command line, make sure nothing is mutted
[02:45] <voidcomp> ok, will keep those suggestions in mind
[03:17] <muji> hello fellas, anyone know how i can use the controls of my beats tour on amarok?
[03:58] <Guest68160> join #bologna
[04:01] <thelionroars> I did :)
[04:01] <thelionroars> it was empty :)
[04:02] <SIR_Taco_> #bacon is always better
[04:04] <thelionroars> everything is better with bacon
[04:04] <thelionroars> unless you are a pig...
[04:04] <SIR_Taco_> exactly
[05:28] <DarthFrog> Bacon!  Yum.
[06:35] <food1> where is the mouse acceleration setting on KDE 4.9?
[06:37] <OerHeks> food1, mouse settings, 2nd [tab] advanced
[06:38] <food1> OerHeks, I installed minimal kde on Ubuntu . I don't see any kind of mouse settings on "Setting" excepted cursor them
[06:40] <OerHeks> sorry then i don't know food1
[06:41] <food1> i see some setting on "Device Input" but i don't know How i can make cursor control of mine .. Cursor go too faster suddenly
[06:43] <OerHeks> form slow to faster or faster all the time?
[06:46] <food1> OerHeks, For example when i am reading a PDF and i scroll down using my mouse wheel , It just go faster suddenly and pass 4-6 pages .
[06:47] <OerHeks> in the pdf reader only? what reader do you use?
[06:48] <food1> Okular , It also happens on Firfox
[06:49] <food1> Perhaps like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/47100/mouse-wheel-scrolling-too-fast
[06:51] <OerHeks> i don't have firefox, but you can try those suggestions tru about:config
[06:52] <food1> what you use?
[06:56] <OerHeks> only chrome
[07:01] <chalcedony> i don't know where my husband is at with the kcalendar
[07:01] <chalcedony> it's not displaying the appointments in the calendar part that he enters in the information box
[07:01] <food1> Your Husband?
[07:01] <chalcedony> food1, yes
[07:04] <chalcedony> food1, yes, he can't speak and write, or understand speech
[07:04] <chalcedony> he uses the calendar a lot
[07:05] <chalcedony> is there something we can look at in kcalendar for why it's not translating the data over?
[07:08] <chalcedony> anyone?
[07:08] <chalcedony> please?
[07:09] <tsimpson> chalcedony: I don't use kcalendar, but perhaps more people in #kde can help you
[07:15] <chalcedony> tsimpson, ill try that thank you
[08:28] <spidey_> mobile broadband tab is disabled in network manager. I have troubles connecting reliance netconnect in ubuntu 12.10
[08:30] <spidey_> Can anybody help? ^^
[08:41] <Mamarok> spidey_: you probably miss some packages, make sure you have the ppp daemon installed
[08:41] <Mamarok> the package name is ppp
[08:58] <iroh> what is the quickest way to transfer the documents on the internal hard drive of my laptop to another laptop temporarily so i can reformat the hd?
[08:59] <Smurphy> f add another drive to the same controller type (S-ATA) and copy it over to another drive.
[09:01] <iroh> i am not very compute proficient. how do i do that? my friend is letting me borrow her laptop to store about 100 gigs of data so i can reinstall win7/kubuntu
[09:02] <Mamarok> Smurphy: I doubt he can connect a second HD, most laptops only have one slot for that
[09:03] <Mamarok> iroh: rsync is the tool you need
[09:04] <Mamarok> iroh: the syntax is probably "rsync -av /src/foo/ /dest/foo"
[09:05] <Mamarok> where /src/foo is your home directory, and /dest/foo the destination on the other laptop
[09:05] <Mamarok> now to connect these two it is probably best to have them in the same network, unless you have a cross cable
[09:06] <iroh> i have a cable, also home wifi
[09:06] <Mamarok> a cross ethernet cable? Because a regular ethernet cable will not work
[09:07] <iroh> Mamarok:  ah... thanks for pointing that out.
[09:07] <Mamarok> iroh: see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable
[09:08] <Mamarok> you will need to have a shared folder on the other side, with write permissions
[09:10] <Mamarok> these links have more info on the subject as well: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/easiest-way-to-share-files-between-two-linux-machines-404524/ and http://askubuntu.com/questions/156169/how-do-i-set-up-file-sharing-between-two-ubuntu-laptops-on-my-wireless-network
[09:11] <iroh> Mamarok: thank you. I will read up.
[09:12] <Mamarok> iroh: for the use of rsync, this is also quite interesting: http://a1979shakedown.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/set-up-an-rsync-server-in-ubuntu-for-file-syncing-between-machines/
[09:14] <Mamarok> the last link is a bit old, so check the comments for newer instructions
[09:14] <iroh> Mamarok: thanks. I don't really know if my cable is a crossover. Most likely not. I read up on resync. my external hd failed, and it will be a couple more paychecks before i can get another.
[09:15] <Mamarok> you can see if it is crossover when you check both ends, and it should be printed on in
[09:15] <Smurphy> Mamarok: I do have a USB 3.0 or e-SATA on mine -> Dell Precision M4600 ... :}
[09:15] <Mamarok> see also here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable
[09:16] <Mamarok> Smurphy: I just use rsync to an external HD, and since it is USB 3.0 that is very fast
[09:16] <invariant> All gtk3 applications that run don't display like they should. (For example, text is not visible, etc.)
[09:16] <invariant> What can be done about that?
[09:16] <Mamarok> but so is ftp and ssh
[09:16] <Smurphy> Mamarok: Using a self written script to sync tro my NAS of Gigabit Ethernet (for Backups).
[09:17] <Mamarok> invariant: change your settings in systemsettings -> Application Appearance - GTK+ Appareance
[09:17] <Smurphy> If I do some partition manipupations etc. - I tend to hook up a new disk - and do it. Even sometimes, take out the HD from the laptop and hook it into one machine that has faster Interfaces to do the manipulation;
[09:17] <Mamarok> well, that USB disk of mine is always hooked on the laptop, and it has a cron job running rsync
[09:18] <invariant> Mamarok, the problem is that something which is supposed to be white is transparant.
[09:18] <invariant> Mamarok, changing widget styles doesn't solve the problem.
[09:19] <Mamarok> invariant: did you read what I just said?
[09:19] <invariant> Mamarok, I even did what you said.
[09:19] <invariant> Mamarok, did you read what I said?
[09:19] <Mamarok> and do you use Oxygen as your default theme?
[09:19] <invariant> Mamarok, no
[09:19] <Mamarok> else this will not work
[09:20] <Mamarok> because the widget stly oxygen-gtk+ is only for oxygen themese
[09:20] <Mamarok> -e
[09:20] <invariant> Mamarok, why doesn't it say that anywhere then?
[09:21] <Mamarok> well, it should be obvious if it says oxygen :)
[09:21] <invariant> Mamarok, it doesn't say that.
[09:21] <Mamarok> it is self-explaining, why would an oxygen-gtk+ style work with a non-oxygen theme?
[09:22] <invariant> Mamarok, no, it is not. Nowhere in the GUI is even the word Oxygen displayed.
[09:22] <Mamarok> *sigh*
[09:23] <invariant> Mamarok, I am the one who should be sighing.
[09:23] <Mamarok> invariant: Oxygen is the default theme in KDE
[09:23] <invariant> Mamarok, yes, so?
[09:23] <invariant> Mamarok, if I click on GTK+ Appearance, I don't expect it to only work for Oxygen.
[09:23] <Mamarok> and if the gtk theme is called "Oxygen-gtk+"; that suggests it is for adaptation tot he oxygen theme
[09:24] <Mamarok> well, it reasonably can't work with other non-oxygen themes
[09:24] <Mamarok> as those use other definitions of trnasparent, white etc.
[09:24] <invariant> Mamarok, can you be a bit more precise in what you say?
[09:25] <Mamarok> invariant: no, I can't
[09:25] <invariant> Mamarok, are you saying that if I want to use GTK+ applications when using KDE, the only choice I have is to use Oxygen?
[09:25] <invariant> Mamarok, I don't care how GTK+ applications blend in with the rest.
[09:25] <invariant> Mamarok, as long as everything is readable.
[09:26] <invariant> Mamarok, I think this would be the bare minimum feature that one could ask for.
[09:26] <Mamarok> you can use Raleigh as another theme, but I don't know how that belds in
[09:26] <Mamarok> and depending on thetheme you use you will have to modify theme settings probably
[09:26] <invariant> Mamarok, why can't I just let GTK completely control how it looks like?
[09:26] <Mamarok> nobody wrote another gtk theme, so you are free to do so
[09:27] <Mamarok> well, use the gtk theme all over then, your choice
[09:27] <Mamarok> it will just not loook that good
[09:27] <invariant> Mamarok, I don't understand how I can do that.\
[09:27] <Mamarok> invariant: you can use the gtk+ style for the widget style
[09:27] <invariant> Mamarok, all I want is that KDE doesn't touch how my GTK applications look like.
[09:28] <Mamarok> same place: system settings -> Application appearance -> Style
[09:28] <invariant> Mamarok, I already said that I had tried about 4 of them.
[09:28] <invariant> Mamarok, none of them resolved the background issue.
[09:28] <Mamarok> well, then don't use the widget stlye at all
[09:28] <Mamarok> so nothing will be changed
[09:28] <invariant> Mamarok, how do I do that?
[09:29] <Mamarok> invariant: which KDE theme do you use?
[09:29] <invariant> Mamarok, qtcurve
[09:29] <Mamarok> you do know that it is rather old, don't you?
[09:30] <invariant> Mamarok, I like it exactly the way it is.
[09:30] <invariant> Mamarok, I just want KDE to not do anything to my GTK applications.
[09:30] <invariant> It seems that 'doing absolutely nothing' shouldn't be too much to ask.
[09:31] <Mamarok> well, it does nothing for me here, sicne I didn't change a thing
[09:31] <Mamarok> but I use Oxygen, which is the default KDE
[09:31] <Mamarok> so if you use non-default settings, check with the author of QtCurve, that is not KDEs fault
[09:32] <invariant> Mamarok, I am asking how I can completely disable KDE touching any inner pixel of a GTK application.
[09:32] <invariant> Mamarok, as such, I am not interested in contacting the author of some theme.
[09:33] <Mamarok> you don't udnerstand: you don't use a KDE default theme, so don't blame KDE for a change that is done by the QtCurve theme
[09:34] <Mamarok> so if you don't want it to change your gtk, use the oxygen style
[09:34] <invariant> Mamarok, if there is no generic way to control this, then someone made a software design error.
[09:34] <Mamarok> the gtk apps I tried here look exactly like gtk to me, nothing modified
[09:34]  * Mamarok gives up
[09:34] <invariant> Mamarok, have you also tried a GTK3 application?
[09:35] <invariant> Mamarok, because I do have a GTK2 application which looks correct.
[09:35] <almoxarife> invariant: i am with you, you would think that with those high salaries they would do better software design
[09:35] <Mamarok> almoxarife: what salaries are you talking about?
[09:35] <invariant> He is being sarcastic.
[09:36] <Mamarok> I know
[09:36] <invariant> Still, it also implies that just because they are volunteers, they are free to create broken software and get a free pass for not receiving criticism.
[09:37] <Mamarok> invariant: make it better since you apparently know how to do so
[09:37] <invariant> I don't think everyone is a volunteer, though.
[09:37] <almoxarife> i use qtcurve for both qt/gtk , no issues here
[09:37]  * Mamarok wanders away
[09:37] <invariant> almoxarife, with gtk3?
[09:37] <invariant> almoxarife, it works with gtk2 for me.
[09:38] <almoxarife> invariant: you are right, the guy in the back office that staples paper to the wall, he gets paid
[09:38] <invariant> almoxarife, what's with the hate attitude?
[09:38] <almoxarife> invariant: no hate
[09:39] <invariant> almoxarife, hostile then.
[09:39] <invariant> almoxarife, I am saying it doesn't work.
[09:39] <almoxarife> give me a gtk3 app, so i can see some diff here to complain about
[09:39] <invariant> almoxarife, transgui
[09:39] <invariant> almoxarife, apt-get install transgui
[09:39] <almoxarife> i dont apt-get
[09:40] <almoxarife> i zypper
[09:40] <Mamarok> almoxarife: you are aure you are in the right channel?
[09:40] <Mamarok> sure*
[09:41] <almoxarife> kubuntu/kde
[09:41] <Mamarok> well, Kubuntu doesn't use zypper
[09:41] <almoxarife> all the same
[09:41] <almoxarife> thats alright, zypper dont mind
[09:42] <almoxarife> invariant: what is 'transgui'?
[09:44] <almoxarife> ic, a transmission remote-gui
[09:45]  * almoxarife uses the kde app to torrent, ktorrent
[09:50] <invariant> almoxarife, is that the result of your analysis?
[09:51] <invariant> almoxarife, can ktorrent connect to transmission?
[09:51] <invariant> almoxarife, if not, why would you ever even mention it?
[09:51] <almoxarife> invariant: of course
[09:52] <almoxarife> invariant: you mean in the sense that you(transmission) are u/l and i(ktorrent) am d/l the torrent i assume
[09:52] <invariant> almoxarife, no, it can't.
[09:52] <invariant> almoxarife, no, I don't mean that.
[09:53] <invariant> almoxarife, please don't take this the wrong way, but you are assuming that I am the clueless user here, while in fact you are.
[09:53] <invariant> almoxarife, please, do not respond to questions from people that you don't understand.
[09:54] <almoxarife> invariant: thats fine, i am clueless why a kde user is fixating on a gtk app used mostly on ubuntu like sys's
[09:54] <almoxarife> invariant: only because of the forum being kde related
[09:55] <invariant> You are now on my ignore list.
[09:55] <almoxarife> :)
[11:16] <Guest8825> qiao
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:26] <invariant> How do I set the location of the message which is displayed when notify-send "very long text here" is executed?
[12:27] <invariant> Various applications use this, but it doesn't place it on one screen.
[12:28] <invariant> If you have a multi-screen setup, you can replicate this behaviour by doing: notify-send "very long text here" very long text here" very long text here" very long text here" very long text here" very long text here" very long text here" very long text here" very long text here".
[12:28] <invariant> Without the exact quotes :/
[12:34] <lordievader> invariant: Maybe it works and maybe not, however the command "export DISPLAY=:0.0" or "export DISPLAY=:0.1" might help you.
[12:35] <invariant> lordievader, on what does this depend?
[12:36] <invariant> lordievader, it does not.
[12:38] <lordievader> invariant: export DISPLAY=:0.0 should be the first display and :0.1 should be the second. I do not have a multi-monitor setup myself so I cannot test it, but if I recall correctly it was something along those lines.
[12:39] <tsimpson> notify-send doesn't control where the message is displayed, that's up to the backend
[12:40] <invariant> tsimpson, how can I control it anywhere?
[12:44] <OerHeks> invariant, notify-send has limit options > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/notify-send.1.html
[12:46] <tsimpson> invariant: it's plasma that listens for the notifications, so its up to plasma where they show. probably depends on where the notifications widget is
[12:52] <invariant> OerHeks, I am not interested in notify-send.
[12:53] <invariant> OerHeks, I don't have a notifications-widget.
[12:53] <invariant> OerHeks, the thing of interest are the KDE applications that create notifications.
[12:54] <OerHeks> oh, my bad
[12:54] <OerHeks> you asked about  notify-send "very long text here"
[12:55] <BluesKaj> yes, I also assumed the issuw was the notifier
[12:57] <lordievader> Same here, I also thought he was executing notify-send from a terminal. So what is your problem exactly invariant?
[12:59] <invariant> lordievader, there are lots of applications which at some point use the kde notification frame work to send a message. These messages look exactly the same as if they are sent by notify-send.
[12:59] <invariant> lordievader, at some point the "backend" decides where to put the message.
[13:00] <invariant> What I want is control the location of the message in some way.
[13:00] <invariant> If you designed it such that this is impossible, then this is a bug which needs fixing.
[13:01] <invariant> I don't understand what was not clear about my initial question, however, which indicated this already precisely.
[13:01] <lordievader> invariant: Have you followed tsimpson's advice/suggestion?
[13:02] <invariant> lordievader, he didn't provide any advice.
[13:02] <invariant> lordievader, he only said that it depends on the location of the notification widget.
[13:02] <invariant> lordievader, I can see whether I can add a notification widget.
[13:03] <lordievader> invariant: That implies experimenting with the location of the notification widget ;)
[13:04] <invariant> lordievader, the notification widget only works for some applications.
[13:04] <invariant> lordievader, this one is not one of them.
[13:05] <invariant> I am looking for something which gives the same output as if notify-send was called, which means that if I can control what notify-send does via some "backend", I can also control it for this application.
[13:06] <OerHeks> invariant, can't find notifier placement in http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html
[13:08] <OerHeks> Would be a nice idea, anyway
[13:10] <OerHeks> I know Clementine musicplayer can control the position of it's notifier
[14:16] <natalcp> ola
[14:16] <xixor> ola
[14:16] <bazhang> !pt | natalcp
[15:16] <karihre> Ok weird error I'm seeing, I use autofs to mount home directories from a server (with the & 'flag' in autofs to only mount used home directories, not all of home).  When I'm starting KDM, it is extremely slow, and looking at ps aux output it seems to be trying to mount /home/kdm (which doesn't exist on the server) and if I disable autofs and only mount my home directory, it works much much faster.  Also this mounting weirdness seems to be affec
[15:40] <GH0|Away> Would someone be able to help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2084781 I am experiencing all sorts of log file problems (syslog, dmesg, messages, user.log, etc) are not updating or logging. DHCP and DNS logging seem to have broken, and logwatcher is broken due to the other problems I am experiencing.
[15:49] <BluesKaj> GH0:  is your internet connection working properly and are you using network manager ?
[16:05] <GH0> BluesKaj: Yes, it is working correctly. I think I am using network manager. I don't have issue with network connectivity (connected to IRC on the same box), it's just a matter of logging issues.
[16:05] <GH0> DHCP and DNS are working correctly.
[16:08] <BluesKaj> GH0, ok good , so it's a log problem and not an actual usage issue
[16:08] <GH0> Yeah
[16:08] <GH0> syslog appears to be broken, I just don't know how to diagnose it.
[16:09] <BluesKaj> neither do I , this is a first for me
[16:09] <GH0> It seems the upgrade did more harm then good to my box
[16:09] <BluesKaj> have you updated and upgraded since ?
[16:10] <GH0> No, I thought 12.10 was the most up to date version.
[16:10] <GH0> I have upgraded packages since the update though, yes.
[16:11] <BluesKaj> I mean updated and upgraded the packages in 12.10 , there are several upgrades in the repos
[16:11] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:11] <xixor> w000t!  new kernel, 3.5.0-19, rejoice! rejoice!
[16:32] <oberdan> hi guy's i have a problem  in my kubuntu 12-04 i still tyng to install chromium from muon but after 20 sec. appear a screnn theth told me "ANOTHER APPLICATION SEEM TO USING THIS PAKEG AT THIS TIME .YOU HAVE TO CLOSE ALL THE OTHER PAKEG MANAGER BEFORE TO ADD E REMOVE  ITEMS"
[16:36] <OerHeks> oberdan, do you have terminal open?
[16:36] <OerHeks> that could lead to this error.
[16:37] <xixor> I wonder if there is a ghost/zombie muon, apt, or dpkg process running
[16:37] <DarthFrog> or a stale lock file.
[16:46] <oberdan_> so?
[17:16] <Kvaks> What's the best way to synchronize text files (for note taking) between my linux machine(s) and Android phone(s)?
[17:18] <xixor> Kvaks: both ubuntu one, and dropbox, have android clients... I'd say either of those would work quite well for that task
[17:26] <Kvaks> Thanks.
[17:27] <xixor> I've never used ubuntu one, but I hear it's quite good. But I've been using dropbox for quite a few years now
[17:38] <Tygart> xixor: how much space dose dropbox give?
[17:42] <BluesKaj> 2G for free,
[17:48] <GH0> How can one reinstall syslog? Or is it even possible?
[17:49] <xixor> Tygart: yeah, 2Gb.  I think ubuntu one is 5Gb?  My dropbox has 6Gb, I managed to refer a lot of people
[17:51] <Tygart> Oh, I have been using Ubuntu one and the once from MSN
[17:51] <picharras> :)
[17:51] <Tygart> the msn one has 25gb free.
[17:51] <Tygart> I got it before they changed.
[17:52] <Tygart> picharras: Hello
[17:52] <picharras> Hi
[17:55] <GH0> Well, it appears as if syslog was actually removed from my machine. rc  inetutils-syslogd                        2:1.8-6                                      amd64        system logging daemon
[18:25] <smiffel> some of you know why kubuntu 12.04 messed up with my mousewheel? regardless which wm... kwm or icewm the same
[18:25] <smiffel> it's not as precise at it was still in 11.04
[18:26] <smiffel> this is annoying in games...
[18:26] <smiffel> i tried a few mice, not a HW issue
[19:40] <skrite> hey all
[19:45] <skrite> how do i create a keyboard shortcut that will launch urxvt with some parameters, like urxvt -tr -sh 40 -tint blue or some such?
[20:15] <skrite> hey all
[20:19] <skrite> how do i create a short cut to launch a custom application with parameters.. like conky -c testconfig.rc
[20:25] <rork> skrite: do you mean in the start menu / kicker?
[20:28] <skrite> no, it does not need to be in the start menu. they are some utilities like dmenu, etc..
[20:29] <ledah> hello anyone known a good alternative to gnomedo or synapse for kubuntu?
[20:30] <Tygart> skrite: have you looked at System Settings> Keyboard short cuts and gestures?
[20:31] <skrite> yes, but they don't seem to work with commands that have arguments
[20:33] <Tygart> o
[20:33] <Tygart> oh*
[20:35] <skrite> maybe i have something wrong here.
[20:35] <skrite> is there a keyboard shortcut for toggling tiling on/off?
[21:06] <Tygart> skrite: tiling?
[21:07] <Tygart> Are you talking about it showing all your workspaces
[21:17] <invariant> skrite, you should look into dbus.
[21:17] <invariant> skrite, then define a keybinding using khotkeys calling your dbus command, if it exists.
[21:18] <invariant> skrite, otherwise, find the code which currently toggles tiling and write a mini-C++ program which does the same thing.
[21:18] <invariant> skrite, you can file a bug if the toggling of the state is not exposed to dbus.
[21:19] <invariant> skrite, that's everything you can do.
[21:19] <invariant> skrite, your question is completely clear, btw.
[21:20] <invariant> skrite, it's quite annoying that mostly people who don't understand your question respond. Try to live with it.
[21:25] <Tygart> Is there a way to extract packages from an ISO to place into another ISO?
[21:28] <yofel> Tygart: if you want to modify an ISO see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[21:30] <Tygart> yofel: Thanks.
[21:53] <Aison> hello all, I updated to 12.10 and now the login screen (lightdm) no longer appears
[21:54] <Aison> when I login into the console and type sudo lightdm something happens but then i'm back in the console again
[21:54] <Aison> when I type startx, X starts up with xterm
[21:54] <Aison> so X itself is fine
[21:55] <Aison> are there any logs from lightdm? I wounder what is going on here
[21:57] <xixor> hi.
[22:00] <Aison> Error writing X authority: Error opening file '/var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority': Permission denied
[22:34] <laura___> I just installed 12.10 on my laptop. Is there a way to change the login image to a female?
[22:36] <Torch> laura___: system settings -> account details
[22:36] <Tygart> laura___: system settings> Account details
[22:36] <Tygart> Click on the image
[22:36] <Tygart> lol
[22:36] <laura___> Tygart: Thank you!
[22:39] <Tygart> Aison: you could try installing lightdm again.
[22:39] <Tygart> sudo apt-get install lightdm
[22:49] <laura___> Tygart: I restarted my laptop, and the image was still the same. It is a male silhouette. That is the one I wanted to change. Is there a way to change that one?
[22:49] <laura___> Tygart: I'm talking about the login screen
[22:50] <Tygart> laura___: the background image.
[22:51] <Tygart> laura___: check System Settings > Login screen
[22:51] <laura___> It's the little icon by my name. It's a silhouette of a male. I figured there would be a way to make it female
[22:54] <laura___> Tygart: Ok, I changed the background image. I'm going to restart to see if that worked. Thank you for your help : )
[22:59] <laura___> Tygart: Nope, that wasn't it either. It just changed the whole background. Do you see when you go into System Settings > Login Screen, and you see the person's face above his name? That's the picture I'm talking about. I know it's trivial, I just don't want to have a male's silhouette. LOL
[23:00] <Tygart> That should have been system settings -> account details
[23:00] <laura___> Tygart: I'll check again
[23:01] <Tygart> Oh and you don't need to restart
[23:01] <Tygart> just log out
[23:02] <laura___> Tygart: That was the image I changed at first, but it only changed the image on the when I click on the start button.
[23:03] <Tygart> I am not sure then.
[23:04] <laura___> Tygart: Thank you for your help. I know you're right about changing it in account details. I wonder why it isn't changing. I'll just deal with the image. It's not that big of a deal
[23:04] <dougl> is it dpkg -i packagename.deb?
[23:26] <Aison> Tygart, I found the error: because I reinstalled lightdm, the old user lightdm was removed and added again, but the lightdm user got a new UID
[23:27] <Aison> but the owner of /var/lib/lightdm was still assigned to the old UID
[23:59] <surfn__> hi


[08:19] <mcphail> Hi - you may want to check out the /topic spam in #ubuntu-touch
[15:36] <SonikkuAmerica> eh?
[15:37] <k1l_> i guess he is talking about tdiesel


[00:00] <Aliksy> in the "command" field I put... what I would normally type in the terminal after the full path?
[00:01] <Aliksy> wait, got it
[00:02] <Aliksy> java -jar \filepath\file made more sense
[00:31] <Aliksy> Whoo. Things working.
[00:44] <Aquina> Does someone in here use brasero?
[00:44] <Aquina> I need some help, please.
[00:44] <Aquina> :-)
[01:02] <uouou> Aquina: eh, sudo apt-get install k3b :P
[01:03] <Aquina> :-)
[01:03] <Aquina> Thanks but that's not the solution I had in mind.
[01:04] <leche> Aquina, maybe describe your prob
[01:06] <Aquina> (On initial screen after Brasero startup): How can I erase all "recently opened projects"?
[01:07] <Aquina> These littel boxes ae actually just links but they perve on purpose anymore cause the files they refer to were already deleted.
[01:49] <Aquina> Got an idea ,leche?
[01:51] <leche> hmmm
[01:51] <leche> no, sry
[02:32] <Aquina> kk
[03:11] <xaer0> hello
[03:12] <xaer0> another score for Linux users who get Vista from a OEM: http://equiliberate.org/?q=node/3
[03:12] <xaer0> 200 buck refund from HP
[03:16] <xaer0> makes me want to get a laptop then a refund fro 200 bucks :L)
[03:20] <xaer0> so i got to say Xubuntu + Compiz + Emerald is fast and pretty :)
[03:20] <j1mc> :]
[03:24] <xaer0> i also have OpenGEU which doesnt like Compiz or Emerald.. but thats okay. I think Enlightenment is more so eyecandy than KDE or Gnome
[03:25] <xaer0> OpenGEU is just ubuntu using Gnome and E17.. quite pretty but some what of a resource hog.
[03:26] <xaer0> thats why XFCE is good but Fluxbox hardly takes 10MB of Ram to run :)
[03:26] <xaer0> Fluxbox just needs some really good gui based config programs
[03:30] <evilbug> how is it that after i install xubuntu and reboot, i get a No Bootable Device error?
[03:32] <j1mc> evilbug: is it a grub error?
[03:32] <xaer0> or BIOS error?
[03:32] <j1mc> are you dual-booting, or just single-booting?
[03:32] <evilbug> dual boot and it's the 3rd time.
[03:32] <j1mc> yeah, sounds like an error from the bios.
[03:33] <j1mc> evilbug: what kind of dual boot?  all on one hard drive?
[03:33] <evilbug> yes.
[03:33] <evilbug> macbook pro.
[03:33] <evilbug> it's worked fine before.
[03:33] <j1mc> hm.  i take it you can boot into the mac os?
[03:33] <xaer0> BIOS.. dont know much about Mach
[03:33] <evilbug> yes.
[03:33] <xaer0> *Macs
[03:33] <evilbug> it's the third time tried installing it.
[03:34] <xaer0> its gotta be a command in GRUB
[03:34] <j1mc> when did it work fine before?
[03:34] <j1mc> with xubuntu?
[03:34] <evilbug> yesterday.
[03:34] <xaer0> you got a Super Grub Boot Disk?
[03:34] <xaer0> or a System Restore Disk?
[03:34] <xaer0> those are some nice Linux based live CDs with a ton of tools
[03:34] <evilbug> i just have a xubuntu live cd and gparted live cd.
[03:35] <ISEE-xubuntu> Anyone have problems where xfce panels just close out of nowhere?
[03:35] <xaer0> it seems that GRUB command may be out of place or a command isnt specified right
[03:36] <xaer0> like -vga=790
[03:36] <xaer0> or something to that effect
[03:36] <xaer0> can you see or paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[03:36] <j1mc> ISEE-xubuntu: i don't have that problem, but i've heard of it occuring.
[03:37] <xaer0> evilbug: i know i had some problems with a triple boot, Suse 11, Xubuntu, and WinXp sp3.
[03:38] <evilbug> i'm going to try reinstalling grub.
[03:38] <xaer0> it seems that would be best.. make sure it reports you root correctly
[03:38] <evilbug> k
[03:39] <xaer0> i know that was a common problem with my triple boot
[03:39] <j1mc> ISEE-xubuntu: you can type 'xfce4-panel' into a terminal, and they will return
[03:39] <xaer0> listing the wrongs.. either it was the (hd0,1) or the sda1
[03:39] <j1mc> but i think this problem has something to do with the xfce4-session
[03:39] <j1mc> there's a bug in it.
[03:39] <xaer0> something to those effects evilbug
[03:40] <j1mc> ISEE-xubuntu: press alt-f2, and then enter xfce4-panel into the box.
[03:40] <ISEE-xubuntu> j1mc: I do, but why would it just just close
[03:41] <ISEE-xubuntu> is there something I can do to fix it?
[03:42] <cody-somerville> ISEE-xubuntu, yes but it would be a lot of work
[03:42] <cody-somerville> and not fun
[03:42] <j1mc> cody-somerville: thanks for stopping in.  :]  i thought of your comments in our meeting when this came up.
[03:42] <cody-somerville> what meeting?
[03:42] <xaer0> i have a bug with Emerald + Compiz in Xubuntu 8.04.. quite annoying. Emerald half the time wont load on boot
[03:43] <cody-somerville> and what comments?
[03:43] <j1mc> cody-somerville: in the last xubuntu meeting, you talked about how xfce4-session causes problems with the panels.
[03:43] <j1mc> iirc.
[03:43] <cody-somerville> ah
[03:44] <j1mc> xaer0: there's a pretty good blog guide to effectively setting up compiz in xubuntu.
[03:44] <xaer0> j1mc: followed that blog 100%
[03:45] <xaer0> it maybe because im also running Avant Windows Navigator too
[03:45] <j1mc> compiz on xubuntu is still a little tricky for me, but if no one else here can help, you can post a message to the xubuntu-users mailing list.
[03:46] <xaer0> Emerald does run.. but i have to do Ctrl+Alt+Backspace a few times
[03:46] <xaer0> or have to log out completely
[03:47] <xaer0> a few times... i have also wondered i have "Saved Sessions for Future Logins" enabled on the logout chooser
[03:47] <xaer0> if that would be causing the problems as well
[03:49] <j1mc> xaer0: sorry, i'm not quite as familier with the intricacies of compiz and other non-default items.
[03:49] <j1mc> sorry i can't be of more help.
[03:50] <xaer0> thats okay.. linux is stable enof were i dont have to worry about it restarting for years LOL
[03:50] <xaer0> i heard of Linux Servers and workstations havent been restarted for over 10yrs
[03:52] <xaer0> thats for the help :-D
[03:52] <xaer0> *thanks
[03:52] <j1mc> np.  good luck!!
[04:08] <deadweight> can anyone help me get skype working on xubuntu 8.04?
[04:09] <deadweight> it seems to think theres something wrong with my audio device
[04:10] <PsynoKhi0> as in?
[04:12] <PsynoKhi0> error message? non-functioning test call?
[04:14] <deadweight> error msg when someone tries to call
[04:14] <deadweight> "problem with audio capture" I believe
[04:19] <PsynoKhi0> how did you install Skype?
[04:20] <PsynoKhi0> from their homepage with gDebi?
[04:20] <deadweight> their homepage
[04:25] <PsynoKhi0> sry Enlightenment kicked me to loggin screen
[04:25] <deadweight> s'ok
[04:25] <deadweight> I got it from the homepage
[04:25] <PsynoKhi0> do you have the sound applet on your taskbar?
[04:26] <deadweight> yes
[04:26] <PsynoKhi0> I mean the volume control applet
[04:26] <deadweight> yeah
[04:26] <deadweight> the little volume bar with a speaker next to it
[04:26] <PsynoKhi0> ok if you click on the icon and check that everything you need is up and running
[04:27] <deadweight> hmmm. lots of bars seem to be all the way down, which do I need?
[04:29] <PsynoKhi0> from left yo right, 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11... no ok I'm BSing you :) dunno depends on what you have there
[04:30] <deadweight> XD, I see, so is there a way to find out or should I just start testing them?
[04:30] <PsynoKhi0> you should have a way to see what controls are displayed, like, from first menu (not using Xfce right now plus my sound sin't properly working sry can't heck)
[04:31] <PsynoKhi0> check*
[04:31] <PsynoKhi0> a good start is everything related to your microphone
[04:32] <deadweight> k I just turned everythin up alittle bit
[04:32] <deadweight> looks like it didn't change anything
[04:32] <PsynoKhi0> then check your Sjype preferences
[04:32] <PsynoKhi0> Skype*
[04:33] <deadweight> ok, anything in particular I should look for?
[04:33] <PsynoKhi0> the sound devices
[04:34] <PsynoKhi0> if it's ALSA something something
[04:34] <PsynoKhi0> or at least something that matches your sound system
[04:35] <deadweight> everything is default, should I look for my sound card or assume it knows what its talking about?
[04:35] <deadweight> iits ablet o make noise, just not call
[04:35] <deadweight> *its able
[04:35] <PsynoKhi0> assuming you didn't play around with the basic setup I mean
[04:35] <deadweight> nope
[04:36] <PsynoKhi0> hang on, switching to a comp with Skype on it...
[04:36] <deadweight> k
[04:41] <PsynoKhi0> ok what options do you have in sound devices?
[04:42] <deadweight> sound in,sound out, ringing, all default
[04:42] <deadweight> tests, and then the option to let skype control my mixers
[04:44] <PsynoKhi0> and what's the exact error message?
[04:45] <deadweight> when I try to make a call "problem with Audio Playback"
[04:47] <PsynoKhi0> what are the other options you get from the Sound out/in drop-down menus?
[04:48] <deadweight> SBLive! Value [CT4780] (hw:Live, 0)
[04:49] <deadweight> SBLive! Value [CT4780] (plughw:Live, 0)
[04:49] <deadweight> SBLive! Value [CT4780] (hw:Live, 1)
[04:49] <deadweight> etc
[04:49] <deadweight> down to 3
[04:50] <PsynoKhi0> how about switching to (hw:Live, 0)?
[04:50] <deadweight> I'll try it
[04:51] <deadweight> seems to have worked, now I feel stupid XD, thanks a bunch dude
[04:52] <PsynoKhi0> np *hugs google*
[04:53] <deadweight> lol, well thanks again, peace
[04:53] <PsynoKhi0> http://forum.skype.com/lofiversion/index.php/t89969.html
[04:53] <PsynoKhi0> ;)
[05:01] <bassboi> hey, is there something i can use to watch the transfer rate of data from a usb hdd to my OS hdd?!
[05:01] <bassboi> like vista, i guess
[06:01] <bassboi> another thing, i try and boot a xubuntu and ubuntu live CD on another PC, and it gives me a terminal
[06:01] <bassboi> intermg or something
[06:18] <PsynoKhi0> is there a way to make gtk themes persistent across WMs/DEs?
[06:19] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: what do you mean by persistent?
[06:20] <PsynoKhi0> TheSheep: like, I have the Tango icons and the Industrial theme in XFCE, I'd like to have them still even if I log on to iceWM or Enlightenment
[06:21] <PsynoKhi0> or w/e windows manager I feel like using
[06:21] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: each desktop environment has its own configuration files
[06:21] <TheSheep> incompatible with each other
[06:21] <TheSheep> so you have to set up each one separately
[06:24] <PsynoKhi0> ah
[06:24] <PsynoKhi0> oh well
[06:54] <PsynoKhi0> solved
[06:54] <PsynoKhi0> more or less
[06:55] <PsynoKhi0> a file names .gtkrc-2.0 in home folder and tadaa
[06:55] <PsynoKhi0> named*
[06:55] <PsynoKhi0> firestarter doesn't seem interested but w/e
[09:19] <PsynoKhi0> any sound card expert around?
[11:01] <bassboi> sayy
[11:01] <bassboi> im trying to ./configure alsa drivers..
[11:01] <bassboi> C compiler cannot create executables
[11:02] <TheSheep> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:03] <AlexCONRAD> should build-essential be part of the minimal ?
[11:03] <AlexCONRAD> I feel like I'll always need it a time or another
[11:03] <TheSheep> no, ubuntu normally doesn't come with al the compilation tools
[11:03] <bassboi> ah ok
[11:03] <TheSheep> it's not geared for developers
[11:04] <AlexCONRAD> yeah, I'm comming from fedora, I guess its different
[11:04] <bassboi> tyvm
[11:04] <bassboi> that'll save me some frustration in the future too
[11:05] <TheSheep> AlexCONRAD: fedora seems to be mostly for admins
[11:05] <AlexCONRAD> yeah
[11:05] <AlexCONRAD> that makes ubunty a less skilled community
[11:05] <AlexCONRAD> but you get more feedback
[11:06] <AlexCONRAD> which implies that documentation and more ressources are be available out there
[11:08] <AlexCONRAD> under a firefox download progress window, when I right click and choose "open containing folder", I get "choose launch application" pop-up. What should I choose there ?
[11:09] <bassboi> thunar in there?
[11:10] <AlexCONRAD> I get a file system browser
[11:10] <bassboi> wtf
[11:10] <bassboi> i get the same thing u get
[11:11] <AlexCONRAD> ok, as I have a customized xubuntu CD, I wanted to make sure this was "normal"
[11:11] <bassboi> i wish one of my liveCDs worked
[11:12] <bassboi> so i could edit my partition table
[11:13] <bassboi> if i do ./configure, and make, on something i wanna install, but not make install, does it change system settings?
[11:13] <bassboi> or not unless i do sudo make install
[11:14] <AlexCONRAD> bassboi: no, it doesn't
[11:14] <AlexCONRAD> ./configure scans your system and generates a Makefile holding your system's data
[11:14] <bassboi> ok
[11:14] <AlexCONRAD> make compiles the source files into binary files
[11:14] <bassboi> i see
[11:15] <bassboi> then install just like, injects it into the system?
[11:15] <AlexCONRAD> "make install" installs (copy) them in your system
[11:15] <bassboi> oh ok
[11:15] <bassboi> :)
[11:15] <bassboi>  tyvm
[11:16] <bassboi> i was wondering, cuz i can't get synaptic to open
[11:16] <AlexCONRAD> ./configure will attempt to detect where your system is
[11:16] <bassboi> unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file
[11:17] <bassboi> failed to run as user root
[11:18] <AlexCONRAD> sudo ?
[11:18] <AlexCONRAD> sudo [my command]
[11:19] <AlexCONRAD> makes [my command] run as root
[11:24] <bassboi> weird
[11:24] <bassboi> brb
[11:56] <Kardoso> hi
[11:57] <Kardoso> hi
[11:58] <Kardoso> Has Xubuntu any visual effects like as Ubuntu?
[11:59] <TheSheep> it has shadows and translucent panels/window decorations
[11:59] <Kardoso> ok, thanks
[11:59] <TheSheep> you can also install compiz for it to have all the fancy 3d stuff
[11:59] <Kardoso> ok
[12:00] <Kardoso> If I install Xubuntu in OEM mode then I have write the name, pass, etc at the first start?
[12:00] <TheSheep> yes
[12:00] <Kardoso> Great.
[12:01] <Kardoso> Is it similiar like that the computer manufacturers using?
[12:01] <Kardoso> (for OEM notebooks)
[12:03] <Kardoso> Where is the file manager in Xubuntu? I saw Nautilus in Ubuntu, I like it, but I could not find it in Xubuntu. Please help me
[12:06] <Kardoso> Has Xubuntu any file managers?
[12:11] <TheSheep> Thunar
[12:12] <Kardoso> sorry. I had connection lost
[12:12] <Kardoso> TheSheep please repeat your last message
[12:13] <TheSheep> Kardoso: thunar is the default file manager in xubuntu
[12:13] <Kardoso> Ok, thanks
[12:15] <bassboi> oh damn. i need to resize partiton but livecd gparted tells me hdd is locked i guess... has keys next to it and automounts the partitions
[12:26] <TheSheep> bassboi: disable automounting in settings
[12:27] <bassboi> gparted settins?
[12:34] <ere4si> 5g for /, 250mb for swap, the rest for /home is what I'd use bassboi
[12:39] <bassboi> ok
[12:39] <bassboi> brb
[12:44] <bassboi> tyvm TheSheep
[12:44] <bassboi> workin now
[12:46] <Kardoso> TheSheep: What are is in "Lost+Found" directory? Why are this directory locked?
[12:53] <TheSheep> Kardoso: all files that somehow become lost (because of filesystem damage) are put in there
[12:54] <Kardoso> TheSheep: How can I view that directory?
[12:55] <TheSheep> Kardoso: as root, you can start thunar with 'gksu thunar' for example, but be careful what you do with it, you can damage your system as root
[12:58] <Kardoso> TheSheep: How? How can I login as root? (sorry, i'm just starter in Linux)
[12:59] <TheSheep> Kardoso: you can't login as root
[13:00] <TheSheep> Kardoso: just run thunar as rott with the command I gave you
[13:00] <Kardoso> So should I type 'gksu thunar' to Terminal?
[13:01] <TheSheep> yes
[13:02] <Kardoso> Ok. thanks
[13:02] <TheSheep> and then it will ask you for your password
[13:02] <Kardoso> ok
[13:04] <Kardoso> Im going to try it now. Thank you for the all help. Have a nice day, good bye.
[13:06] <Kardoso> TheSheep: Hi again, I'm so sorry but I'm forgot the command that you said (i didnt write it to anywhere).
[13:06] <Kardoso> TheSheep: Please, can you repeat the command?
[13:06] <bassboi> gksu thunar
[13:06] <bassboi> ?
[13:07] <Kardoso> bassboi: thank you very much
[13:07] <bassboi> no problem
[13:07] <Kardoso> I write it to a paper immediately
[13:07] <bassboi> TheSheep is slow sometimes
[13:07] <bassboi> :-P
[13:07] <Kardoso> before I forget again :)
[13:08] <Kardoso> Ok, I wroted it ;)
[13:08] <bassboi> [06:55:56] [TheSheep]: Kardoso: as root, you can start thunar with 'gksu thunar' for example, but be careful what you do with it, you can damage your system as root
[13:08] <Kardoso> thanks
[13:08] <Kardoso> well, then now I go to try it
[13:08] <Kardoso> (with the paper :) )
[13:09] <Kardoso> have a nice day, good bye
[13:12] <bassboi> more coffee
[13:13] <bassboi> hey whats the most u can stay up on caffiene
[13:14] <TheSheep> I did 32h of programming once, but no coffee back then
[13:15] <TheSheep> but that's better for #xubuntu-offtopic
[13:15] <bassboi> more active discussion there right now?!
[13:53] <bassboi> man it takes 3 hrs to resize a partition?!
[13:54] <TheSheep> if it's big and has little free space, then it might
[13:55] <TheSheep> it has to move data around
[13:55] <AlexCONRAD> like defrag under Windows
[13:55] <bassboi> i see i see
[13:56] <bassboi> i just checked it, it had to like, shrink the filesystem, check it, resize partition, check it, grow filesystem to fill partition, check it, then move data or whatever to the right
[13:57] <bassboi> sorry for all the questions, but on my other system, ubuntu and xubuntu 8.04 boots the liveCD to the desktop, but there's 2 desktops... one is at the screen resolution, and the other is shifted slightly down, and about 2 inches to the right, and rather transparent so it's hard to make out the text... although, the mythbuntu 7.10 CD I have boots fine to the desktop
[13:57] <bassboi> the fuck?
[13:58] <TheSheep> !ohmy
[13:59] <bassboi> sorry :(
[13:59] <TheSheep> I had something similar to what you describe when my system thought I have a tv connected
[13:59] <AlexCONRAD> what's the story about release numbers ? X.04, X.10 ?
[14:00] <TheSheep> AlexCONRAD: year and month
[14:00] <AlexCONRAD> ah
[14:00] <TheSheep> !schedule
[14:00] <AlexCONRAD> TheSheep: aah, it's here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[14:01] <bassboi> TheSheep if you don't mind answering, how'd you fix it
[14:01] <TheSheep> bassboi: I disabled tvout in my xorg.conf
[14:02] <bassboi> you were using onboard video at the time, correct?
[14:02] <TheSheep> bassboi: it's a laptop
[14:02] <bassboi> ahh, i see
[14:03] <bassboi> because this PC is just a mATX mobo, p4 3.4, 1gb of RAM.. everything onboard
[14:04] <TheSheep> bassboi: relevant parts of my xorg.conf: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/80042/
[14:04] <TheSheep> bassboi: you might also try playing with xrand
[14:05] <bassboi> ok
[16:04] <eshat> @ALL: Is there a file that logs me out graphically (from gnome or xfce) ?
[16:05] <cody-somerville> sure
[16:05] <cody-somerville> xfce4-session-logout I believe
[17:24] <AlexCONRAD> hey, I'm insterested by the "fglrx-control" package (control panel)
[17:25] <AlexCONRAD> so I installed it
[17:25] <AlexCONRAD> but I can't find it under my menu
[17:25] <AlexCONRAD> where would it be ?
[17:26] <AlexCONRAD> oh, I was able to open it by typing "amdcccle"
[17:28] <bassboi> ok a few problems... :|
[17:29] <bassboi> the tray area on the top panel, is all the way to the left against the applications menu... how i get it back to the right...
[17:30] <bassboi> and something is up, cuz now it says, "Xfce Menu" instead of Applications... i believe it has something to do with the window manager too... because when I log in, I don't have any titlebars, minimize, maximize, and close buttons on the top of the programs
[17:30] <bassboi> i have to start compiz fusion to get them
[17:32] <bassboi> ok i got the tray area to be on the left side
[18:19] <bassboi> bah
[18:21] <bassboi> xfce doesn't friggin fully load when i log in
[18:21] <bassboi> no title/minimize/close bar on top of windows
[18:37] <taime1> is xfce heavily modified in xubuntu?
[18:39] <taime1> and does it rely on gnome?
[18:40] <cody-somerville> taime1, it does not rely on gnome
[18:40] <cody-somerville> taime1, and it isn't *heavily* modified
[18:41] <taime1> is totem a gnome media player? or is it independent of gnome? and lastly, (sorry for the questions) did they really remove the right click menu? can we reenable it?
[18:42] <cody-somerville> Totem is not a gnome media player. It is independent of gnome. and yes you can
[18:43] <taime1> thank you very much
[18:44] <taime1> im very interested in xubuntu, i just didnt want to use it if all those gnome libraries were installed.. may as well use ubuntu in that case...
[19:04] <AlexCONRAD> I installed gnome-screensaver, but I only have a few screensavers listed (like 4 or 5). How do I get the full list ?
[19:04] <n-iCe> hello
[19:04] <n-iCe> !xubuntu-server
[19:04] <n-iCe> is there a xubuntu server, right?
[19:04] <AlexCONRAD> !screensaver
[19:05] <AlexCONRAD> !screen saver
[19:05] <AlexCONRAD> n-iCe: xubuntu runs under xfce
[19:05] <AlexCONRAD> !xfce
[19:06] <n-iCe> I see
[19:06] <charlie-tca> n-iCe: There is no specific Xubuntu server edition
[19:06] <AlexCONRAD> ah, you meant a "server" edition
[19:06] <AlexCONRAD> sorry
[19:06] <n-iCe> yeah
[19:06] <charlie-tca> Servers are normally run without a desktop
[19:07] <n-iCe> all the xubuntus have desktop interface?
[19:07] <AlexCONRAD> n-iCe: yes, AFAIK
[19:07] <n-iCe> I see
[19:07] <charlie-tca> yes, Xubuntu is ubuntu with the Xfce desktop and other changes
[19:07] <AlexCONRAD> Kubuntu is with KDE desktop
[19:08] <n-iCe> I see
[19:08] <AlexCONRAD> !gnome-screensaver
[19:08] <n-iCe> I am installing it, xubuntu alternate
[19:08] <n-iCe> or something like that, what can you tell me about it?
[19:08] <AlexCONRAD> alternate is the non-live edition
[19:09] <AlexCONRAD> means it will be installed on your disk
[19:09] <n-iCe> awesome
[19:09] <n-iCe> I am installing it
[19:09] <n-iCe> I want to set up a server, is xubuntu stable?
[19:09] <AlexCONRAD> the "live cd" version can boot from CD directly (all changes are non-persistant and are lost after reboot)
[19:09] <n-iCe> yeah, we don't want that
[19:10] <AlexCONRAD> n-iCe: it is
[19:10] <AlexCONRAD> I don't wanna troll or anything, but Fedora is more for admins
[19:10] <n-iCe> ok, now how can I configure the server, I mean how can I add users,logins, etc, and don't give them access to the pc, just for somethings
[19:11] <AlexCONRAD> if you want to go the .deb way, you might think about debian
[19:11] <n-iCe> I use debian, never used ubuntu though
[19:11] <AlexCONRAD> n-iCe: why would you want to run xubuntu for a server ?
[19:12] <AlexCONRAD> the desktop takes up memory
[19:12] <n-iCe> i don't want a desktop
[19:12] <AlexCONRAD> then *ubuntu won't fit for you
[19:12] <bassboi> how do i enable the swap file on xubuntu
[19:12] <AlexCONRAD> then *buntu won't fit for you
[19:13] <charlie-tca> n-iCe: you may want to check Ubuntu Server Edition, then.
[19:13] <AlexCONRAD> bassboi: you should have swap already set
[19:13] <AlexCONRAD> fill up your memory, you'll be swapping :)
[19:13] <n-iCe> ok
[19:14] <bassboi> well ya see
[19:14] <bassboi> i screwed with the partitions
[19:14] <AlexCONRAD> heh
[19:14] <charlie-tca> check out this link: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition
[19:14] <bassboi> and now in my system monitor... the swap file usage is 0%
[19:15] <AlexCONRAD> bassboi: well, that's what I'd want
[19:15] <bassboi> me too, but damn shit is slow as fuck
[19:15] <AlexCONRAD> swap comes in to play when your memory is kinda overloaded
[19:15] <bassboi> errr
[19:15] <AlexCONRAD> !ohmy
[19:15] <bassboi> damn crap is slow as hell*********8
[19:15] <charlie-tca> !ohmy
[19:16] <AlexCONRAD> bassboi: are you swaping ?
[19:16] <AlexCONRAD> bassboi: like, much disk access ?
[19:18] <bassboi> way too much
[19:18] <bassboi> i try and load firefox
[19:18] <bassboi> the hdd thrashes non stop for like, 10 minutes
[19:18] <AlexCONRAD> well, yeah, something's broken
[19:18] <n-iCe> thanks
[19:18] <AlexCONRAD> i'm used to check "mount" and see if I have a swaping partition
[19:18] <AlexCONRAD> but here on my xubuntu, I doesn't seem to show any swap
[19:18] <cody-somerville> whats the output of "free"?
[19:19] <AlexCONRAD> hey, cody-somerville: I installed gnome-screensaver, but I only have a few screensavers listed (like 3 or so). How do I get the full list ?
[19:20] <TheSheep> screensaver-data
[19:24] <AlexCONRAD> thanks TheSheep
[19:32] <AlexCONRAD> found it
[19:32] <AlexCONRAD> i was looking for xscreensaver-gl + extra
[19:42] <bassboi> cody-somerville, swap has no 0% used 100% free, and physical mem sits at like 50%
[19:42] <bassboi> i still can't figure out how to enable swap
[19:43] <cody-somerville> swapon
[19:48] <cottima> cody-somerville, sorry, I have not responded.  I have grub issues; could be my lvm or raid 1.
[19:51] <bassboi_> http://pastebin.com/m100dbee6
[19:51] <bassboi_> anyone see anything wrong with that
[19:52] <Myrtti> why is your / commented out
[19:52] <Myrtti> and swap
[19:52] <Myrtti> and /storage
[19:53] <bassboi_> i dunno?
[19:53] <bassboi_> not supposed to be, right?
[19:53] <Myrtti> right
[19:53] <bassboi_> ok
[19:54] <bassboi_> uncommented, saved, and sudo mount -a
[19:54] <bassboi_> still no swap :(
[20:06] <bassboi_> ah nvm
[20:07] <bassboi_> gots it
[20:19] <bassboi_> well alrighty then
[20:19] <bassboi_> ty Myrtti
[20:19] <bassboi_> got it all sorted out
[20:20] <bassboi_> back to runnin' smooth
[20:20] <bassboi_> fixed the WM too
[20:31] <zombiebox> hi
[20:32] <zombiebox> I have a problem with the md5 checksum file on the cd....  it isn't correct :-(
[20:33] <charlie-tca> zombiebox: what isn't correct, the sum you get when checking the cd?
[20:39] <zombiebox> there is a file /install/netboot/pxelinux.0 that gere wrong CRC when I check it with total commander....
[20:39] <zombiebox> the file on cd is 0 byte long
[20:39] <zombiebox> the file /install/netboot/pxelinux.cfg/default is allso missing
[20:43] <zombiebox> and if I understand right, 6 filenames on the cd are cut off for beeing too long? (or if windows can't handle that long filenames?)
[20:46] <zombiebox> these are the files that totalcommander MD5-checker complains about: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29384/
[20:46] <zombiebox> for the xubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso
[20:53] <zombiebox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29387/ is how the files on my cd is... :-(
[20:55] <n-iCe> hello
[20:57] <zombiebox> or could it be Nero that is doing wrong when I burn the cd?
[20:57] <torro> can anyone help me?
[20:57] <torro> i got errors trying to do apt-get update
[20:57] <zombiebox> the filenames length is cut to 64 chars.... is that a limitation of the cd file format?
[20:58] <charlie-tca> zombiebox: pxelinux.0 and pxelinux.cfg are links to the files/directories. It may be windows not
[20:59] <charlie-tca> reading them correctly as such. They are 0 bytes.
[20:59] <torro> please? i think the mexican repositories aren't working anymore
[20:59] <torro> can anyone help me to fix it?
[21:00] <charlie-tca> torro: You may just need to wait a little while and try again.
[21:00] <charlie-tca> this happens often
[21:01] <zombiebox> aha
[21:01] <torro>  fetch http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[21:01] <torro> here is an example
[21:03] <charlie-tca> zombiebox: I show the md5 sum correct, though
[21:04] <zombiebox> ok
[21:04] <torro> charlie-tca: can you tell me your sources.list
[21:04] <torro> please
[21:05] <charlie-tca> torro: It won't help. I just looked at the archives, and edgy-backports
[21:05] <torro> and?
[21:05] <charlie-tca> doesn't exist there.  There may be a problem with the network or with the server.
[21:32] <torro> nobody?
[21:33] <Myrtti> the error message is quite explanatory
[22:13] <jimmy_the_saint> does anybody else have a seagate freeagent external HD
[23:12] <ClawEEE> what musik player should i use for xfce ?
[23:12] <Odd-rationale> choose!
[23:12] <Odd-rationale> anything from amarok to moc
[23:13] <ClawEEE> amarok kde isnt it ?
[23:13] <Odd-rationale> yeah. but you still use it on xfce if you *wanted* to...
[23:16] <AlexJP> anyone know how i   can be anonymous on xchat?
[23:17] <Myrtti> say, what?
[23:41] <AlexJP> can anyone help me with setting up a VPN
[23:41] <cody-somerville> AlexJP, an entire VPN or just your computer to connect to a VPN?
[23:43] <AlexJP> i would like to connect to a VPN
[23:43] <AlexJP> sorry didnt think to state that  :P
[23:47] <AlexJP> could you help with this mate?
[23:59] <Don64> on the title bar what does the stick button in the upper right do?


[00:04] <mwhudson> lifeless: different problem now
[00:05] <lifeless> mwhudson: tell me if you want to talk about it
[00:05] <mwhudson> lifeless: keep an eye on https://code.staging.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/linux/trunk if you're curious how it goes
[00:05] <lifeless> mondayish
[00:05] <mwhudson> lifeless: sure
[00:05] <mwhudson> right
[00:05] <mwhudson> certainly not now :-)
[00:05] <lifeless> its mah birthday :P
[00:05] <mwhudson> oh, happy bday!
[00:05] <lifeless> ciao
[00:17]  * wgrant is slightly scared by Launchpad classes that inherit private Twisted classes.
[02:12] <wgrant> sinzui: Hmm. The default advanced bug search page has both "Show only bugs with linked branches" and "Show only bugs without linked branches", yet it still returns all of the bugs.
[02:12] <sinzui> Yep
[02:12] <wgrant> Has both of those selected, that is.
[02:12] <sinzui> It is insane
[02:12] <wgrant> Less insane than before, though.
[02:12] <sinzui> abel and I wanted radio buttons to who mutually exclusive states
[02:12] <wgrant> Ah.
[02:13] <sinzui> I had to do a search to prove I would get results
[02:13] <sinzui> I intend to report a bug about it
[16:26] <Pilky> sinzui: you around?
[16:26] <sinzui> I am
[16:27] <Pilky> just going to do some mockups for the team page
[16:27] <Pilky> based on the current design
[16:27] <Pilky> got two questions before I start though
[16:28] <Pilky> 1. you said on the list that the emphasis on certain information is wrong, what bits would you consider the most important to emphasise?
[16:29] <Pilky> 2. Does the list of pending members need to be shown to people who can't accept a new member?
[16:31] <sinzui> 1. The projects and packages that a team owns or creates.
[16:31] <sinzui>    What are the latest bugs, blueprints, questions, and branches that the team is assigned...We should find a away to indicate if a team is involved in translations.
[16:33] <sinzui> 2. All team members should be able to see who is pending, or if the user is himself in the pending list. As for everyone else, we show it to make the possible change visible, but I do not think it is necessary to be visible on the index page
[16:34] <Pilky> ok
[16:35] <Pilky> well, I'll have a go at mocking something up and then post it to the list. I'll try a few variations.
[16:35] <sinzui> Pilky: I really do not like the approach we have taken to show the latest <bug|blueprint|...> on pages. Some items might be months old. I have suggested a changelog or facebook wall approach to show recent activity. This may work for projet, but not necessarilly teams
[16:36] <Pilky> yeah it does cause quite a bit of clutter, I'll try looking at ways to simplify it
[16:36] <sinzui> What many users want to know (about themselves or others) is what has happened recently, what do I need to do next.
[16:37] <Pilky> the wall approach is slightly iffy legally now, seeing as facebook just got a patent on combined news feeds for activity on a site :/
[16:37] <sinzui> changelog is an metaphor that cannot be challenged.
[16:37] <Pilky> yeah
[16:38] <Pilky> well I'm pretty sure there's some prior art as with half of software patents, but I'll have a look at some sort of change log for the team
[16:39] <Pilky> well I'll hopefully have a few mockups in a few hours
[16:39] <sinzui> The design has been limited by implementation details, such each box has only one type of object. I want the code to 1. allow me to have a mixed list of objects to show. 2. allow me to set filters on the page so that I see only the kinds of objects|events that interest me
[16:40] <sinzui> My hope is that if we can have mixed objects and filters, we can solve a lot of wasted space on the page--either empty spaces, or boxes of information that the user does not care about.
[16:41] <Pilky> yeah
[16:42] <Pilky> well I'll try some ideas, if we can get the team page cleaned up a bit then hopefully a lot of that can be transferred to other pages.
[19:50] <Pilky> sinzui: you around? I've got some mockups
[20:13] <lifeless> moin
[21:08] <jelmer> mwhudson, hi
[21:43] <mwhudson> jelmer: hello
[21:45] <jelmer> mwhudson, I've tried to reproduce the bug you were seeing with gedit
[21:45] <jelmer> but I can't reproduce it by pulling 1k revisions at a time from a local git repo into a local bzr repo
[21:45] <mwhudson> jelmer: and it just worked?
[21:45] <mwhudson> jelmer: hmm
[21:45] <mwhudson> jelmer: linux failed on staging in the same way as locally: https://code.staging.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/linux/trunk
[21:45] <jelmer> mwhudson, yes
[21:46] <jelmer> mwhudson, this was from not inside of launchpad though but from the commandline
[21:46] <mwhudson> well
[21:46] <mwhudson> that shouldn't make a difference
[22:02] <jelmer> mwhudson, So you could reproduce the issue with both gedit and linux?
[22:56] <mwhudson> jelmer: i didn't try gedit on staging actually
[23:01] <jelmer> mwhudson: ah, ok
[23:02] <jelmer> mwhudson: staging is running a recent bzr-git, isn't it?
[23:02] <jelmer> so maybe that happened to have the bug that gedit is breaking on fixed
[23:02] <jelmer> mwhudson: I'm running bzr pull --limit=1000 for the kernel now
[23:02] <jelmer> do you know after how many revisions it broke?
[23:09] <wgrant> IIRC it was on the third run.
[23:12] <jelmer> wgrant, thanks


[09:55] <moon127> test
[10:53] <moon127> 123
[12:58] <Spads> 456
[13:41] <Nafallo> 789
[13:57] <moon127> well the migrated log bot works ;)


[00:37] <Lns> GJ: look in /var/log/Xorg.6.log (I think) - paste it on pastebot if you can, im only around for another 20min. but maybe someone else can help too
[00:37] <Lns> !pastebot
[00:37] <Lns> !pastebin
[00:38] <Lns> GJ: ^^^
[12:36] <sakhi_> hi, how do I fix this problem during system bootup? udevd-event[2876]: run_program: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit
[12:37] <sakhi_> from there the system does not continue booting up, i'm running fsck on it the moment.
[12:37] <sakhi_> *at the moment
[13:48] <sakhi_> hi people
[13:49] <sakhi_> quick question
[13:50] <sakhi_> I've downloaded Edubuntu edubuntu-8.04.1-addon-amd64.iso to be exact, I just want to confirm that this is the right OS for installation?
[23:16] <Lns> Woooo! =) http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.24/


[12:29] <imi> hi, what makes this motd-style output: https://ibb.co/d79hF2z
[12:56] <konstruktoid> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpdateMotd imi
[12:57] <imi> thanks
[15:05] <foo> I've got 2 ubuntu systems, primary and secondary. I want secondary to backup primary. I was going to create ssh keys between secondary and primary and run rsync... but if I do that, I believe someone from secondary can ssh into primary. Is there a way to only enable rsync somehow and not ssh for a specific IP or such?
[15:06] <ahasenack> you can force a command in the authorized_keys for that key
[15:07] <foo> oh! Interesting, that might do it. This secondary system is at someone's property... it's probably fine but it would be a security risk. Granted, I guess someone would need to login to that system to do this so it may be fine
[15:07] <ahasenack> foo: check the sshd manpage, search for "AUTHORIZED_KEYS FILE FORMAT"
[15:08] <ahasenack> command="command"
[15:08] <ahasenack>              Specifies that the command is executed whenever this key is used for authentication.  The command supplied by the user (if any) is ignored.
[15:12] <foo> ahasenack: thank you!
[15:12] <foo> Testing now
[15:17] <foo> ahasenack: ok, it seems to sorta be working, I just got to get the rsync command to actually work. command="/usr/bin/rsync -azv /home",no-port-forwarding ssh-ed25519 AAAA... doesn't seem to be working "protocol version mismatch -- is your shell clean?"
[15:25] <foo> jjjj/w 2
[17:30] <ahasenack> when rsync says that, it usually means there is "garbage" in the stream
[17:44] <ahasenack> this might be a bit more complicated than I thought
[17:44] <ahasenack> found this, maybe it helps: https://gist.github.com/jyap808/8700714