[04:58] <Matheo> hey i wanna know if Ubuntu is more complex to use then win xp
[04:58] <Pelo> techie_,  you need to reboot , or at least restart X
[04:58] <nootrope> Matheo, for what kind of stuff?
[04:58] <techie_> ok let me do that.
[04:58] <techie_> thanks.
[04:58] <GooglyGabe> Nobody has any ideas about my "unaccessible clock"? :(
[04:58] <Pelo> np
[04:59] <kingcobra> network problems everywhere
[04:59] <Troy_McClure> alright Pelo, well i deleted one of my partions and need to copy some data from another one on the same disk, now linux will not read it, it only sees my unpartioned space on that disk (1 MB)
[04:59] <Matheo> nootrope mostly gaming
[04:59] <kingcobra> bulmer: what do u suggest i do
[04:59] <nootrope> Matheo, do your games support Linux?
[04:59] <bulmer> kingcobra: read tutorials is my advise
[04:59] <Pelo> Troy_McClure,  you'll need to format that space and mount it
[05:00] <wastrel> GooglyGabe:  prolly not a lot of ppl using ppc   you could try the forums  www.ubuntuforums.org ...
[05:00] <m__> wastrel: i didn't have to reinstall. just needed to reset the perms for /usr/bin/sudo:      chmod 4111 /usr/bin/sudo
[05:00] <mortici> just so you guys know i did a raid0 install where i couldn't use the kubuntu installer to do it, had to do it all manually (apt-get install ubuntu-standard kubuntu-desktop etc...)
[05:00] <GooglyGabe> wastrel: thanks.  I'll check those out :)
[05:00] <wastrel> m__:  but your perms on /usr are still broken
[05:00] <kingcobra> !guidelines
[05:00] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:01] <kingcobra> bulmer:ive read and followed 4 r 5 on my own
[05:01] <cycro> is it bad if i dont have a swap ??
[05:01] <kingcobra> bulmer: plus the 3 2nite
[05:01] <m__> wastrel: right, but how will that effect me? most apps i've tried are running fine.
[05:01] <wastrel> cycro:  depends how much ram you have
[05:01] <Matheo> Nootrope, if its not talking about linux on the box i guess its not right?
[05:02] <bulmer> kingcobra: tutorial on networking? then you are an expert by now :)
[05:02] <cycro> wastrel: i have 1 gb
[05:02] <nootrope> Matheo, probably :)
[05:02] <smokie> hi
[05:02] <cycro> wastrel: what happens if you have less, like 256?
[05:02] <kingcobra> bulmer: completely :)
[05:02] <irunwithscissors> can anyone help me install Heliodor?
[05:03] <bulmer> kingcobra: then where is the problem?
[05:03] <Matheo> nootrope, k thx
[05:03] <kingcobra> bulmer: :)
[05:03] <nootrope> Matheo, np!
[05:03] <wastrel> m__:  general security problem and possible (unpredictable) misbehavior of apps which expect certain perms for something or other.  if you don't mind i guess it's no big deal.  don't setup accounts for other ppl on your system
[05:03] <kingcobra> bulmer: just that my wifi connection isnt working
[05:03] <cycro> wastrel: what happens if u have 256mb of ram and no swap?
[05:03] <wastrel> cycro:  the end of the world
[05:04] <cycro> wastrel: why?!
[05:04] <cycro> wastrel: what??
[05:04] <jake333> does ubuntu already have perl
[05:04] <Troy_McClure> okay so my partitions are detected by gparted, but they devices and not showing up... any reason why?
[05:04] <bulmer> kingcobra: well sometimes you have to give it a rest for a day or so, then the ideas pops in
[05:04] <m__> wastrel: ok, thanks!
[05:04] <wastrel> cycro:  heh if you don't have enough swap you'll run out of memory and things won't work
[05:04] <cycro> wastrel: can i make a swap if i didnt before?
[05:04] <Pelo> Troy_McClure,  are those partition activated ? are they formated ?
[05:04] <Troy_McClure> yeah
[05:05] <Pelo> Troy_McClure,  did you mount them ?
[05:05] <cycro> how do i make a swap?
[05:05] <smokie> how can i run C++ programs on ubuntu?? someone please help
[05:05] <kingcobra> bulmer: ill try that in a bit
[05:05] <wastrel> jake333:  ubuntu should have perl in the default install
[05:05] <techie_> Pelo, i restarted how do I mount windows now
[05:05] <blanky> smokie: run? just do ./nameofprogram
[05:05] <rylan> can someone quickly tell me what the command is to check the drivers for your graphics card?
[05:05] <Troy_McClure> ntfs partitions, it has the block device (/sda) but not the /sda1
[05:05] <techie_> or where do i find it.
[05:05] <blanky> smokie: to compile, sudo apt-get install build-essential and use gcc/g++
[05:05] <Troy_McClure> yeah they were working before...
[05:05] <kingcobra> nootrope: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8739/
[05:05] <wastrel> cycro:  you can make swap with fdisk if you have free space on your drive for a swap partition
[05:05] <Pelo> techie_,  if you followed my instructions it is mounted in /mnt/windows
[05:05] <mortici> omfg
[05:05] <cycro> !fdisk
[05:05] <wastrel> cycro:  or you can use gparted to shrink another partition to make space
[05:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:05] <Pelo> Troy_McClure,  then I don,t know
[05:05] <smokie> thanks blanky
[05:06] <mortici> the time adjusted to 1 day behind and sudo doesn't work anymore
[05:06] <smokie> are those just the packages i need
i followed your instructions but how do i find that folder?
[05:06] <cycro> wastrel: but how would i configure ubuntu to recognize it as swap?
[05:06] <blanky> np smokie
[05:06] <bruenig> Troy_McClure, May I have seen you in such made for tv specials as Planet of the Apes
[05:06] <Pelo> techie_,  nautilus , click the my system icon , browse your way to /etc  then to /windows
[05:06] <wastrel> !swap | cycro
[05:06] <ubotu> cycro: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
it does not show in Places as before
[05:06] <bulmer> mortici: boot off of the liveCD and then attempt to repair whats on your hard disk
[05:07] <Pelo> techie_,  once you have found it  make a bookmark , it will then appear in places
[05:07] <cycro> wastrel: thanks
[05:07] <jake333> wastrel: so is it safe to install a server that uses .pl extensions?
[05:07] <mortici> argh
[05:08] <wastrel> jake333:  i'm not sure what you mean by safe
[05:08] <jake333> wastrel: wil it read .pl's
[05:08] <kingcobra> nootrope: ar you stil about man
[05:08] <mortici> bulmer: can i copy whats on the livecd's tmpfs for /etc/modprobe.d/ to my hdd?
[05:08] <bulmer> mortici: you tried yet?
[05:08] <mortici> bulmer: no
[05:08] <nootrope> kingcobra, i take it that you're not getting a reference to your wireles card when you ifconfig?
[05:08] <sm0k3d> hey guys
[05:09] <mortici> but seems my sound doesn't work and it works on the live cd
[05:09] <bulmer> mortici: only one way to find out huh?
[05:09] <mortici> bulmer true true
[05:09] <kingcobra> nootrope: did u c the paste
[05:09] <nootrope> oops, no! i'll scroll back, sorry
[05:09] <wastrel> jake333:  you should be able to run perl scripts, as long as they're written correctly.  if a server is installing .pl files it may need perl modules you don't have however
[05:09] <mortici> bulmer: no way to clear the sudo issue?
[05:10] <cycro> wastrel: do you strongly recommend having a swap on a separate partition as opposed to a file?
if i go to systems there and then file folders within etc. no windows
[05:10] <bulmer> mortici: probably there is, but its easier if you have a root password
[05:10] <jake333> wastrel: ok how about darwin streaming server by apple do you think that does?
[05:10] <techie_> I could also go to place and then type the /mnt/windows and bookmark
[05:10] <wastrel> cycro:  partition is better yes.  and learning how to create a swap partition will be good experience :]
[05:10] <nootrope> kingcobra, yep, you're not online on that machine...
[05:11] <nootrope> hmm
[05:11] <bulmer> mortici: thats why i prefer people to have a root password rather than using sudo..but everyone is disciplined diff way
[05:11] <Pelo> techie_,  not in /etc/  in   /mnt/ , sorry if I made a mistake , I've been typing /etc/ quite a bit today
[05:11] <bruenig> bulmer, what needs root you say?
[05:11] <kingcobra> nootrope: oh i know that very much so
[05:11] <cycro> wastrel: the website tells u how to add swap via file only
[05:11] <techie_> so go to mnt
[05:11] <chris__> what is the font used in the terminal, i really like it and would like to use it on dos?
[05:11] <nootrope> kingcobra
[05:11] <techie_> i think i messed up should i go back to terminal and see where it is
[05:11] <bulmer> bruenig: me needs root  :)
[05:11] <techie_> if so how do i do that?
[05:11] <kingcobra> nootrope: do you think wlan0 or wmaster0 are correct
[05:12] <bruenig> sudo -s not good enough?
[05:12] <mortici> bulmer: i thought i created a root pwd but i guess not
[05:12] <wastrel> jake333:  i know nothing about darwin streaming server.  you should check the system requirements.  if it just says "perl interpreter" you should be fine. if it says it needs some random perl modules, you may not be
how do I find what I wrote in terminal what was the command to see the listing
[05:12] <mortici> brb i guess
[05:12] <techie_> ?
[05:12] <jake333> ok
[05:12] <nootrope> kingcobra, i had the same prob and had to switch cards. the one you're using is known to work?
[05:12] <Pelo> techie_, did you do that  sudo mkdir /mnt/windows    command I told you do so earlier ?
[05:12] <jake333> idk were the requirements are
[05:12] <techie_> yes i did
[05:12] <bulmer> bruenig: actually its mortici that needs it
[05:12] <nootrope> i belive it's wlan0, kingcobra
[05:12] <bruenig> for what
[05:12] <kingcobra> nootrope: apparently they hav
[05:12] <wastrel> cycro:  make yourself a swap file.  if you think your system is running slowly because of it, you can make a swap partition later.
[05:12] <Pelo> techie_,   go to the terminal and type    cd /etc/windows
[05:12] <chris__> what is the font used in the terminal, i really like it and would like to use it on dos?
ok i went to mnt and i see the windows folder
[05:13] <kingcobra> nootrope: theres a lot of cards that use this chipset
[05:13] <techie_> what now?
[05:13] <Pelo> techie_,  make a bookmark
[05:13] <bulmer> bruenig: for getting back his sudo..i already suggested booting off liveCD and repair it from there
[05:13] <nootrope> kingcobra, this isn't a USB adapter, is it?
[05:13] <kingcobra> nootrope: there are a few guides for it 2 that seem to work 4 others
[05:13] <kingcobra> nootrope: yes it is
[05:14] <h3h_timo> hey guys, im using this guide to install a new kernel optimized for my computer, and im at a point where it asks for the family of my processor, which one should i choose for a core duo 1 (not 2) machine??? thanks for any help!!
terrific, it did work. Thanks.
[05:14] <Pelo> techie_,  no problem
[05:14] <wastrel> h3h_timo:  grep family /proc/cpuinfo
[05:14] <Pelo> techie_,  you might find this usefull  http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84
[05:14] <nootrope> kingcobra, sorry but i don't know where to go from here. :\
[05:14] <jake333> wastrel:it says nothing
[05:15] <sm0k3d> hey, after i use "sudo apt-get install ..." where does it go and how can i bring it up to use it?
[05:15] <kingcobra> nootrope: ok thanx
[05:15] <wastrel> jake333:  you're probably fine.
[05:15] <Pelo> techie_,  and this http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[05:15] <mau> anybody have a favorite VNC viewer?
[05:15] <Trini_Man> hi everyone
[05:15] <blanky> mau: realvnc?
[05:16] <kingcobra> can somebody help me with network problem, here is my current state http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8739/
[05:16] <Pelo> sm0k3d,  if it has a menu entry check the menu, if not just type the name of the prog in the terminal
[05:16] <Trini_Man> i can only get sound when i run my audio and playback applications as root
[05:16] <h3h_timo> wastrel, it says 6 for both
super interesting thanks for the links
[05:16] <techie_> hey Pelo u from? I mean the nick?
[05:16] <techie_> interesting.....
[05:17] <wastrel> h3h_timo:  that means i686.  what are the choices for cpu family?
[05:17] <Trini_Man>  i can only get sound when i run my audio and video playback applications as root
[05:17] <nootrope> hey, kingcobra, in Networking, what name does it have?
[05:17] <techie_> merci
[05:17] <techie_> very cool links
[05:17] <kingcobra> wlan0 and wmaster0
[05:17] <nootrope> kingcobra, in the Properties
[05:17] <Trini_Man>  i can only get sound when i run my audio and video playback applications as root .. how do i fix that u think its somthing with permissions
[05:17] <h3h_timo> wastrel, can you hold on a sec?? ill pastebin 'em if thats alright!!?!?
[05:17] <Pelo> techie_,  bienvenu
[05:17] <wastrel> yup
[05:17] <nootrope> kingcobra, it ahs two names?
[05:18] <smokie_> can i use wine to install a phone driver that works on windows??
[05:18] <wastrel> Trini_Man:  you need to add yourself to the audio group
[05:18] <chris__> what is the font used in the terminal, i really like it and would like to use it on dos?
[05:18] <Trini_Man> wastrel: i will try that
[05:18] <Pelo> Trini_Man,  check the user settings in menu > system > admin
[05:19] <smokie_> anyone with ideas??
[05:19] <nootrope> smokie_ i doubt it
[05:19] <kingcobra> nootrope: well there are two interfaces that seem to be wireless, i dont know why
[05:19] <chris__> Can anyone tell me what the font is in the terminal?, i really like it and would like to use it on dos
[05:19] <Pelo> smokie,  try asking in #winehq
[05:19] <nootrope> kingcobra, try deactivating one of them
[05:20] <kingcobra> theyre both deactivated
[05:20] <Trini_Man> wastrel :there is no audio group
[05:20] <smokie_> nootrope, is there anyway i can go about it then, cos i cant browse directly while i am workin on ubuntu, i have to connect my fone to my desktop, the set up a lan wit my laptop than runs ubuntu
[05:20] <wastrel> chris__:  you mean the console font?
[05:20] <nootrope> it's being detected but hasn''t been configured
[05:21] <chris__> wastrel: yes
[05:21] <kingcobra> nootrope: when i activate either of them it does not find an access point
[05:21] <nootrope> kingcobra, do the Properties have anything other than DHCP?
[05:22] <Trini_Man> wastrel: there is no audio group
[05:22] <kingcobra> theyre greyed out until i enter info
[05:22] <Trini_Man> wastrel: i think i messed up some settings in my also a while back
[05:22] <wastrel> chris__:  grep font /etc/default/console-setup
[05:22] <Trini_Man> wastrel : how do i restore it back to default
[05:22] <wastrel> Trini_Man:  ls -l /dev/dsp  what group owns it?
[05:23] <nootrope> smokie_: are you trying to use VoIP, SIP?
[05:23] <kingcobra> bulmer: do you know what the second wireless interface on my comp could b
[05:23] <Trini_Man> wastrel :crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2007-03-02 12:38 /dev/dsp
[05:23] <nootrope> kingcobra, what's on COnfiguation?
[05:23] <smokie_> no,
[05:23] <bulmer> kingcobra: nope, but you can always delete them
[05:23] <Trini_Man> root owns it
[05:23] <Fuzzehskittlez> ok i got ubuntu up, but! at first when it started it said tere was a gnome error or something ,and my ps/p keyboard wont work...
[05:23] <kingcobra> nootrope:theyre greyed out until i enter info
[05:24] <h3h_timo> wastrel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8743/
[05:24] <techie_> Pelo... I have one final question ... I have to install a windows program with a disk I have to link USB to pc via a cable.
[05:24] <h3h_timo> those are the obvious ones i thought
[05:24] <wastrel> Trini_Man:  its "group owner" (or however you say that) is  audio
[05:24] <chris__> wastrel: so is the font sarge16.psf or Terminus?
[05:24] <smokie_> nootrope, i am tryin to use my mobile phones modem
[05:24] <bulmer> kingcobra: you have read the tutorials, what does it says about /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:24] <techie_> Pelo should i do something the usb first or ubuntu will recognize it.
[05:24] <nootrope> kingcobra, it can't hurt to delete them and rebooting with the USB thingie plugged in
[05:24] <wastrel> Trini_Man:  grep audio /etc/group
[05:24] <wastrel> chris__:  damfino :]
[05:24] <Pelo> techie_,  a usb what ?
[05:25] <kingcobra> nootrope: its greyed out until i enable it and then i leave it at dhcp
[05:25] <nootrope> smokie_: thru USB or the RJ-11?
[05:25] <techie_> I need to send audio from a mini tape recorder to pc via usb.
[05:25] <Trini_Man> wastrel :audio:x:29:<me>
[05:25] <h3h_timo> wastrel, did you get that?
[05:25] <smokie_> yeah, thru USB, its a curitel 8900 fone
I have the installation disk from xp but do not know if I should install that way via the cd? or should i look for something similar via the synaptic package
[05:26] <Pelo> techie_,  try pluggin it direct and see if ubuntu recognises it first , if it deosn'T  look up the model of your recorder in the forum
[05:26] <kingcobra> bulmer: there is loopback and rt73 which i added and doesnt seem to be doing anything
[05:26] <nootrope> kingcobra, what kind of accesspoint you trying to connect to?
wow they even have that too! models of recorders.
[05:26] <techie_> ok let me try it.
[05:26] <Trini_Man> wastrel :audio:x:29:<me>
[05:26] <wastrel> Trini_Man:  i guess you're in the audio group?   groups   should show it in the list.
[05:26] <evergreen> hi, i was wondering why I might choose vmware over wine or vice versa
[05:26] <bulmer> kingcobra: why you added loopback and rt73?  tutorials said you should?
[05:26] <kingcobra> nootrope: my router
[05:27] <Pelo> techie_,  windows programs do not work in linux, you canot install them at best you can try running them on an emulation platform like wine  wich allows you to run some windows program, but try a linux sollution first
[05:27] <nootrope> kingcobra, what brand of router?
[05:27] <Trini_Man> wastrel : thing is xmms works with the audio but nothing else
[05:27] <exeakiel> How do I switch off compatibility mode off in WINE?
[05:27] <kingcobra> bulmer: loopback was there already and last tutorial said to add rt73
[05:27] <wastrel> h3h_timo: interesiting, i dunno.  i just have i686.  maybe ask in #linux..
[05:27] <azrael__> Hey, I've got an ubuntu edgy machine here which hangs for a long time when logging into gnome.
[05:27] <Fuzzehskittlez>  ok i got ubuntu up, but! at first when it started it said tere was a gnome error or something ,and my ps keyboard wont work...
[05:28] <kingcobra> nootrope:peak
[05:28] <Pelo> exeakiel,  ask in #winehq
[05:28] <azrael__> No beryl, xgl, or compiz is installed.
[05:28] <azrael__> What should I check?
[05:28] <bulmer> kingcobra: what kind of computer you have and what nics are installed?
[05:28] <wastrel> Trini_Man:  check what output plugin xmms is using
[05:28] <kingcobra> nootrope: ill try deleting them and rebooting
[05:28] <evergreen> thanks Pelo
[05:28] <Fuzzehskittlez> ok i got ubuntu up, but! at first when it started it said tere was a gnome error or something ,and my ps keyboard wont work... can sum1 tell me Y?
[05:28] <nootrope> kingcobra, can you assign the wifi adapter's MAC address to a static IP and try changing the Properties in Networking to that?
[05:28] <chris__> wastrel: damfino, where can i find that on the system
[05:29] <Trini_Man> wastrel : Alsa  [lobALSA.so]
[05:29] <wastrel> chris__:  sorry,  damfino = damned if i know
[05:29] <kingcobra> custom built comp, ethernet and ralink usb wireless adaptor
[05:29] <bulmer> nootrope: he has to also have the router assisn a static ip (matching)
[05:29] <azrael__> Specifically, the settings daemon is giving an error
[05:29] <chris__> wastrel: oh lmao, sorry >< :P
[05:29] <bcrowe> Fuzz, I had the same issue with Mandriva. It would die after about 30 seconds. I'm not a linux guru, but switched to Ubuntu and have not had an issue
[05:29] <Pelo> evergreen,   vmware is to setup a virtual computer inside your current os ie you run ubuntu and on that you create a virutal comptuer on wich you run windows,   wine lets you run window progs on ubuntu directly, sort of
[05:29] <nootrope> bulmer, that's ewhat i was trying to communicate :)
[05:30] <Trini_Man> wastrel : Alsa  [lobALSA.so]
[05:30] <DigitalNinja> how do I print from Scribus? My printer is in the list but when I hit "print" it doesn't do anything.
[05:30] <wastrel> Trini_Man:  ok so your xmms is working but what isn't ?
[05:30] <hcook> word
[05:30] <bcrowe> Fuzz, have you tried a USB keyboard? whenever I have an issue, I jus run updates from pacage manager
[05:30] <bcrowe> usually fixes me right up
[05:30] <Trini_Man> wastrel : yes but like other audio and video players dont work
[05:31] <bcrowe> Ubuntu rocks
[05:31] <Pelo> we know
[05:31] <wastrel> Trini_Man:  except as root?
[05:31] <Fuzzehskittlez> im using usb now and its working, the num lock on the ps keyboard is lite up bit wont do anyting when kerys are pressed, its prolly jus in wrong spot
[05:31] <Fuzzehskittlez> but do u no why it said gnome error when i started?
[05:31] <Trini_Man> wastrel : well 'sudo'
[05:31] <kingcobra> bulmer:custom built comp, ethernet and ralink usb wireless adaptor
nothing is happening but he recorder is panasonic ic recorder  RR-US380 how do i find this and see what to do?
[05:31] <Fuzzehskittlez> wuts pacage manager?
[05:31] <wastrel> Trini_Man:  i dunno.
[05:32] <Trini_Man> wastrel : i think its permissions with libs
[05:32] <chris__> wastrel: terminal font= Terminus :D
meaning I do not hear any sound of Ubuntu recognizing the usb?
[05:32] <bulmer> kingcobra: and those two interfaces do appear in /etc/network/interaces right?
[05:32] <Fuzzehskittlez> ok well il be back, im guna install it now, its just runnin atm
[05:32] <bcrowe> nope, sorry. Only been running Ubuntu for about 4 months at home. I'm a Network/ Server guy for a big M$-centric company
[05:32] <kingcobra> bulmer: no they dont
[05:32] <Pelo> techie_,   does a new icon appear on your desktop when you plug the device in ?
[05:32] <nootrope> kingcobra, does the Peak allow you to assign a static IP to the wifi adapter's MAC address?
[05:32] <bcrowe> Synaptic
nothing
[05:32] <wastrel> bcrowe:  will you be my personal windows consultant?
[05:33] <wastrel> :]
[05:33] <slavik> well, time to play whack-a-mao ... I hope they don't multiply too fast
[05:33] <evergreen> pelo> so if I were to aim for just speed and only windows apps, wine would be best?
previously I was helped to recognize ubuntu in reading my cdroms
[05:33] <Pelo> techie_,  search for the model number here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/  and go to the panasonic website and see if they have drivers for linux
[05:33] <bulmer> kingcobra: well they must have an entry in that file or else you wont get it working
[05:33] <bcrowe> what apps, Evergreen?
[05:33] <evergreen> bcrowe: dragon naturally speaking
[05:33] <Pelo> evergreen,  I suggest wine
[05:33] <evergreen> and some old basic accounting programs
[05:33] <evergreen> thanks
[05:33] <evergreen> :)
[05:34] <bcrowe> hmmm, I haven't tried that one...I'm sure there's about 100 open-source opions
[05:34] <bcrowe> options
[05:34] <kingcobra> bulmer: ok what should they be entered as
[05:34] <Pelo> evergreen,  there are some decent linux accounting apps you should look into,  grisbi and gnucash
[05:34] <wastrel> gnucash has got a pretty steep learning curve imho
[05:34] <Pelo> grisbi is very nice
[05:34] <Pelo> and getting better
[05:34] <kingcobra> bulmer: there was other settings had to be entered with rt73 when i put that in
[05:35] <Pelo> gnucash is for real accountants
[05:35] <evergreen> Pelo: I'll look into those, although I took a look at gnucash and it seemed like a version of Quicken for windows, which doesn't have the features I'm looking for
[05:35] <bulmer> kingcobra: the tutorial explained it right?
[05:35] <sevenpacks> evergreen,  I happened to see a big "evergreen" painted on a cargo ship
[05:36] <kingcobra> bulmer: not for all interfaces
[05:36] <Pelo> evergreen, gnucash is nothing like the quicken I used,  but suite yourself,
[05:36] <kingcobra> bulmer: just for rt73
[05:36] <bulmer> kingcobra: for the ethernet it shoudl be pretty straight forward
[05:36] <Fuzzehskittlez> um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...
[05:36] <evergreen> pelo: I was specifically looking for one that would calculate payroll taxes
[05:36] <sevenpacks> Pelo,  do foss guys have cash?
[05:36] <kingcobra> bulmer: which interface is the actual adaptor
[05:36] <evergreen> sevenpacks: nice :)
[05:37] <evergreen> I'll check out grisbi though
[05:37] <kingcobra> bulmer: wlan0 or wmaster0
[05:37] <bulmer> kingcobra: they are all adpaters
[05:37] <nootrope> kingcobra, look for the MAC address
[05:37] <Pelo> sevenpacks,  it'swhen you don'T have money that you need to keep good track of what little you have
[05:37] <inpho> i have a USB external device and a secondary IDE harddrive both mounted on my ubuntu install, but they are both read only, how can i change this?!
[05:37] <bulmer> kingcobra: delete those two and reboot, and see what the system detectts
[05:37] <Charly> Anyone noticed that video players crash in fullscreen mode when firefox is open in compiz and beryl? They work fine if firefox is not running.
[05:38] <kingcobra> bulmer: ok i cant do from networking tho
[05:38] <Pelo> evergreen,  gnucash is what you need then,  but you'll have to so some programming to get payroll automated,    I think they have scripts you can use ,  Iknow they have tutorials on how to go about it ,
[05:38] <hcook> hey guys. just upgraded to feisty herd5, and everything is working great (even beryl/nvidia)...except i can't mount my nfs server. using the same fstab line i always had, but now i get 'can't read superblock' ...anybody know what that means? my other machine mounts it fine...
[05:38] <wastrel> evergreen:  check out freshmeat for something like that.  it's a less common need so is not as likely to have made it into an ubuntu package
[05:38] <kingcobra> bulmer: where do i delete them
[05:38] <sevenpacks> Pelo,  is it needed if all you have is in a bag?
[05:38] <bcrowe> Evergreen - Here's a compatibility list for Dragon on Wine http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=2077
[05:38] <evergreen> Pelo: awesome, thanks.  It definitely could be due to my own n00bness to the linux world
[05:38] <kingcobra> nootrope: where shud i luk 4 mac address
[05:39] <Fuzzehskittlez> um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...
[05:39] <war59312> anyone have any luck getting Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn" 7.04 Herd 5 working in Virtual PC with Vista RTM as the host PC?
[05:39] <evergreen> bcrowe: thanks :)
[05:39] <bulmer> kingcobra man iftab
[05:39] <kingcobra> nootrope: u mean router mac add
[05:39] <andy05> i have a laptop with ubuntu-server edition but cannot get it to connect it to my network does anyone know how i can configure wireless on server edition
[05:39] <nootrope> kingcobra: most USB wifi dongles ahve them on their case somewhere
[05:39] <kelsin> evergreen: mind me asking what features you want that gnucash doesn't have?
[05:39] <kingcobra> bulmer: thanx 1 sec
[05:39] <cris> hi ppl
[05:40] <sevenpacks> hi
[05:40] <bcrowe> Evergreen, looks like version 7 is your best bet, nothing newer works...
[05:40] <evergreen> kelsin: no, I don't
[05:40] <rgould> I'm trying to install gnump3d, but apt-get fails on --configure (return code 128) but doesn't provide any more information. Where can I look for help?
[05:40] <evergreen> bcrowe: gotcha.  thanks
[05:40] <emet> where can I copy a .desktop file so it shows up in my GNOME menu?
[05:40] <Fuzzehskittlez> um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:40] <evergreen> ubuntu's wonderful so far
[05:40] <cris> i need a lot of help with rendering in feisty
[05:40] <leafw> how can one trigger suspend or hibernate from the command line? Is apm -s the proper command?
[05:40] <wastrel> feisty in #ubuntu+1
[05:40] <kelsin> emet: I think ~/.local/share/applications
[05:40] <leafw> I mean, I bet the gnome shutdown dialog does something else
[05:41] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:41] <nootrope> kingcobra: to be clear, i meant, go into the router control panel and add a static IP for your wifi dongle's MAC address.
[05:41] <emet> kelsin, k
[05:41] <kelsin> emet: you can also use programs like Alacarte to edit the menu
[05:41] <Pelo> later folks
[05:41] <kelsin> emet: and of course, for system wide: /usr/share/applications
[05:41] <nootrope> kingcobra, i take it that the machine will go online if you just ethernet to the router directly?
[05:41] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know how to setup a logitech webcam for aMSN in Ubuntu 6.10?
[05:42] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:42] <azahid> can someone tell me what is rpm-sys channel in smart. it seems to get added automatically
[05:42] <Shukhrat> how i can install Oracle ?
[05:42] <kingcobra> nootrope: router is too far away to comp for wired
[05:42] <Shukhrat> help
[05:42] <nootrope> ah
[05:42] <yurimxpxman> could someone please help me use a logitech webcam in Ubuntu 6.10 (aMSN)?
[05:43] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:43] <wastrel> !oracle | Shukhrat
[05:43] <ubotu> Shukhrat: If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[05:43] <evergreen> hrm...I'm having problems with installing programs though
[05:43] <nootrope> kingcobra, you're using anothe comp with the same router, tho?
[05:43] <jmiller565> !Beryl
[05:43] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:43] <kingcobra> yes
[05:43] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:43] <evergreen> kelsin: so what questions did you have?
[05:43] <bcrowe> Shukhrat: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[05:44] <kingcobra> bulmer: how do i delete the interfaces from networking
[05:44] <nootrope> kingcobra, can you get into the router control panel without having to hardwire to it?
[05:44] <kelsin> evergreen: what features you want that aren't in gnucash :)
[05:44] <kingcobra> bulmer: or remove them completely
[05:44] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:44] <Shukhrat> thanks
[05:44] <bulmer> kingcobra man iftab
[05:44] <statix> hiya! anyone around
[05:45] <nootrope> kingcobra, if you remove them, it'll be interesting to see what happens. :)
[05:45] <statix> quick question if I may
[05:45] <bulmer> kingcobra: and remove entries on your /etc/network/interfaces
[05:45] <statix> can I access my hard drive when booting from the live cd?
[05:45] <kingcobra> nootrope: yes but its not easy to assign static ip
[05:45] <statix> my XP wont boot and I need to share some folders
[05:45] <hillster> does anybody know why a working 39160 adaptec card would not scan a scsi bus but as soon as you pull the cable it will?
[05:45] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:45] <anonymeeee> I have a wireless usb card
[05:45] <bulmer> nootrope: he'll still have loopback remaining
[05:45] <statix> then install ubunto and rid of XP forever
[05:45] <Shukhrat> bcrowe wastrel what u reconmendate use MySQL or Oracle ?
[05:45] <kingcobra> nootrope: i wanted to do that before and couldnt
[05:45] <nootrope> kingcobra, the router re-config would be best hardwired to it anyway.
[05:45] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:45] <yurimxpxman> how do I use my logitech webcam in ubuntu edgy?
[05:45] <anonymeeee> it's stuck in scanning mode...won't pick up the network
[05:46] <wastrel> Shukhrat:  i can't recommend, i don't use either one
[05:46] <pavs> does ubuntu supporting touchscreen computer ie, http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/computers/desktops/IQ770_series/rts/4/computer_store/RN635AA%2523ABA
[05:46] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:46] <Cdeszaq> Could somoe help me figure out how to share a file from my Ubuntu computer to my windows computer?
[05:46] <bcrowe> I haven't used Oracle...and not very good at MySQL, but for reliability and support, I'd go MySQL
[05:46] <kingcobra> bulmer:wmaster0 is not in iftab
[05:46] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:46] <xerophyte> does anybody like the domain name reezy.com ? :)
[05:46] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:46] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:46] <irunwithscissors> cdeszaq you could use aim file transfer lol
[05:46] <yurimxpxman> could someone please help me with a webcam?
[05:46] <evergreen> kelsin: calculating payroll taxes and then automatically inputting them into forms to submit to the state
[05:46] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:47] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:47] <kelsin> evergreen: ahhh makes sense :) thanks
[05:47] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:47] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:47] <Cdeszaq> irunwithscissors: Ha...I need to share a few hundred gigs of stuff
[05:47] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:47] <irunwithscissors> oh right :P
[05:47] <emet> Cdeszaq, from Windows to Ubuntu or Ubuntu ot Windows?
[05:47] <Fuzzehskittlez>  um i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:47] <kelsin> !repeat | Fuzzehskittlez
[05:47] <yurimxpxman> help with webcam please
[05:47] <ubotu> Fuzzehskittlez: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:47] <evergreen> kelsin: is that asking for too much or is it just a matter of me finding the right people and places?
[05:47] <nachouru1> hi... i just installed ubuntu 5.04 and the graphic interphase wont show up... how can i fix that from console?
[05:47] <Neronious> fuzzehskittlez: if you keep doing that you wont get any help at all wait for your answer like everyone else
[05:47] <Cdeszaq> emet: Ubuntu to windows
[05:47] <Fuzzehskittlez> ner iv ben here for 45 minutes and i havnt got an answer
[05:47] <azahid> can someone tell me what is rpm-sys channel in smart. it seems to get added automatically
[05:47] <kelsin> evergreen: I think business finance is an area where not a lot of work is being done
[05:47] <irunwithscissors> cdeszaq: how far apart are the computers
[05:47] <Fuzzehskittlez> nor has any1 attempted to hjelp me
[05:48] <pavs> does ubuntu supporting touchscreen computer ie, http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/computers/desktops/IQ770_series/rts/4/computer_store/RN635AA%2523ABA
[05:48] <evergreen> is there a reason why I get these "overwrite" messages when trying to install wine?
[05:48] <Fuzzehskittlez> ur the first time i recieved attention
[05:48] <Shukhrat> bcrowe:is it free to download Oracle for Ubuntu?
[05:48] <emet> hmm I'm sure there are 5000 different ways to accomplish that
[05:48] <evergreen> and why even after I "overwrite" the apps fail to install
[05:48] <irunwithscissors> hey fuxx, ur talking to the bot.
[05:48] <kelsin> Fuzzehskittlez: this isn't some support pay for channel, if no one has or answer, or hell if no one FEELS like answering you, too bad
[05:48] <irunwithscissors> fuzz*
[05:48] <Cdeszaq> irunwithscissors: How would you like me to measure...ethernet distance, or physical distance
[05:48] <Fuzzehskittlez> huh
[05:48] <evergreen> kelsin: that's a shame
[05:48] <emet> one thing you can do is set up an FTP server
[05:48] <irunwithscissors> physical
[05:48] <emet> another I guess is to utilize samba and set up a windows network share
[05:48] <Fuzzehskittlez> how am i talking to the bot
[05:48] <kelsin> evergreen: agreed, hopefully as linux takes over workstations that will change
[05:48] <Fuzzehskittlez> o gay
[05:48] <Fuzzehskittlez> wow
[05:48] <Cdeszaq> emet: I would like to do it via samba...
[05:48] <evergreen> check printing would also come in handy
[05:49] <evergreen> which is fairly standard for these type of programs
[05:49] <emet> I don't have much exp with that
[05:49] <evergreen> there is one that is close to fitting the bill though
[05:49] <emet> !samba
[05:49] <statix> can I view my hd contents frm a live cd boot
[05:49] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:49] <Fuzzehskittlez> wuts the diff between the different linuxes?
[05:49] <pavs> does ubuntu supporting touchscreen computer ie, http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/computers/desktops/IQ770_series/rts/4/computer_store/RN635AA%2523ABA
I could not find the model in the forum... also I went to Panasonic and I did not find any drivers for this. the panasonic recorder model is RR-US380
[05:49] <statix>  can I view my hd contents frm a live cd boot
[05:49] <emet> I would suggest you read that
[05:49] <statix>  can I view my hd contents frm a live cd boot
[05:49] <Cdeszaq> thankx
[05:49] <emet> prob the second link
[05:49] <evergreen> http://www.treshna.com/paymaster/
[05:49] <Cdeszaq> statix: Yes
[05:50] <nootrope> evergreen, i think gnucash prints checks
[05:50] <statix> can I share them once I do that
[05:50] <war59312> why bother even aksing a question here, way to many people asking them all at once and no really cares, kinda sucks, but yeah thats life I guess
[05:50] <Cdeszaq> statix: I think so
[05:50] <kingcobra> bulmer: i hav 4 interfaces 2 wireless 1 ethernet 1 modem showing in networking yet there is only 1 ethernet and 1 wireless in iftab
[05:50] <evergreen> ah well, that's a start
[05:50] <kelsin> Fuzzehskittlez: to put it extremely simply: Package Management, Philosophy, and in many cases distribution special goals
[05:50] <evergreen> I might consider revisiting that pogram
[05:50] <statix> is sharing files on a windows network easy to do
[05:50] <Fuzzehskittlez>  i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:50] <statix> in ubuntu of course
[05:50] <emet> statix, you can use samba
[05:50] <jake333> i am getting the error chown: qtts invalid user
[05:50] <statix> do i have to
[05:50] <bulmer> kingcobra: i did asked you to reboot right? and see what is detected?
[05:50] <emet> check the links ubotu posted
[05:50] <Fuzzehskittlez>  i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:50] <Fuzzehskittlez>  i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:50] <statix> linux doesnt have a network sharing protocol
[05:50] <statix> ?
[05:50] <emet> yes
[05:51] <emet> nfs
[05:51] <emet> but windows doesn't recongize it
[05:51] <statix> just not for windows networks
[05:51] <statix> damnit
[05:51] <techie_>  Pelo, I even check here: http://qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=2391 no drivers available.
[05:51] <statix> it recognizes my win network
[05:51] <wastrel> livecd doesn't have samba eh
[05:51] <statix> thats kinda lame
[05:51] <Cdeszaq> statix: Usually...I am trying to get  some stuff to share itself right now, but my situation is a bit ... different than typical
[05:51] <nootrope> Fuzzehskittlez: don't flood.
[05:51] <Fuzzehskittlez> ...
[05:51] <emet> windows uses a properitary and slow protocol called SMB which samba emulates
[05:51] <techie_> Pelo, also I tried to use wine emulation for the program in xp but no luck
[05:51] <Fuzzehskittlez>  i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:51] <statix> i just had a winxp crash
[05:51] <statix> need to recover files
[05:51] <statix> and rid XP forever
[05:51] <wastrel> samba doesn't emulate smb it's a smb client/server implementation
[05:51] <Xenguy> !enter
[05:51] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:51] <slavik> statix: use knoppix
[05:52] <Neronious> fuzzehskittlez: try restarting
[05:52] <statix> sorry!
[05:52] <kingcobra> bulmer: can i just erase all text in iftab and interfaces
[05:52] <nootrope> Fuzzehskittlez you're gonna get your ass booted off
[05:52] <statix> what is knoppix, and is it easy to use?
[05:52] <Fuzzehskittlez> how so
[05:52] <Shukhrat> need russian users for Ubuntu
[05:52] <bulmer> kingcobra: whats is the problem of rebooting?
[05:52] <wastrel> actually it's not called smb anymore it's cifs
[05:52] <Fuzzehskittlez> because iv ben here for 1 and a half hours and im being ignored?
[05:52] <slavik> Shukhrat: ?
[05:52] <slavik> statix: just look it up
[05:52] <jake333> How do i compile a folder .tar.gz to make it so i can run it
[05:53] <Fuzzehskittlez> slavik
[05:53] <slavik> yes?
[05:53] <Fuzzehskittlez>  i clicked install but its on the time thing and it wont let me click anything but minimize and maximize and it wont close...wut do i do
[05:53] <kingcobra> bulmer: i havnt deleted anything yet sorry
[05:53] <slavik> Fuzzehskittlez: did you change any time settings?
[05:53] <jmiller565> .msg NickServ IDENTIFY pjg5854
[05:53] <Cdeszaq> Fuzzehskittlez: You are being ignored because you are flooding the room with the same thing. It is obvious my now that no one is going to help you
[05:53] <bluefox83> !nvidia
[05:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:53] <wastrel> !ru
[05:53] <nootrope> Fuzzehskittlez turn off your machine!
[05:53] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[05:53] <Shukhrat> slavik:  ,     ?
[05:53] <techie_> anybody here using audio recording to pc ubuntu via usb cable?
[05:53] <Fuzzehskittlez> yes i did slavik
[05:53] <kingcobra> bulmer: can i erase all text in those files to delete the interfaces
[05:53] <techie_> Any alternatives I could use?
[05:53] <slavik> Shukhrat:     :)
[05:54] <slavik> Fuzzehskittlez: don't ;)
[05:54] <Shukhrat> ok
[05:54] <wastrel> kingcobra:  don't do that.  and if you do, make a backup first.
[05:54] <Fuzzehskittlez> well wut do i do
[05:54] <Fuzzehskittlez> i alredy did
[05:54] <bulmer> kingcobra: try please, and let us know what happens
[05:54] <bluefox83> dangit..i forget how to get the bot to tell me about the nvidia installer guide..
[05:54] <statix> cant find my windows files from the linux boot
[05:54] <statix> its  live CD
[05:54] <bluefox83> !nvidia
[05:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:54] <kingcobra> bulmer: try erasing all text?
[05:54] <bulmer> kingcobra: why not..try
[05:54] <bluefox83> !media
[05:54] <irunwithscissors> guys, i get a cookie.  i just converted my friend to linux.  WOO
[05:54] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:54] <wastrel> kingcobra:  make a backup of the files first
[05:55] <Fuzzehskittlez> slavik wut must i do -.-
[05:55] <nootrope> kingcobra, but backup first. erase the minimum to get rid of the wifi stuff
[05:55] <slavik> Fuzzehskittlez: don't change the time :)
[05:55] <Fuzzehskittlez> i alredy did
[05:55] <wastrel> kingcobra:  it won't help.  you probably have to rmmod the kernel module for the driver you don't want running.
[05:55] <Fuzzehskittlez> so wut do i do?
[05:55] <techie_> anyone? any way to transfer my audio recordings to Ubuntu via usb cable?
[05:55] <jrm4> Are there any bittorrent GUI clients that take new bittorrent urls from the command line? I like being able to easily watch progress, but I'd also like to ssh and add a quick new one, like say..from work, etc?
[05:55] <wastrel> kingcobra:  you may need to blacklist the module and reboot
[05:55] <Fuzzehskittlez> do i need to restart?
[05:55] <war59312> !internet
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <Neronious> fuzzehskittlez: restart the comp and start over again
[05:55] <Fuzzehskittlez> k -.-
[05:56] <userund> jrm4: I think azureus can do that.  It can run without the gui too
[05:56] <war59312> !browsers
[05:56] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[05:56] <emet> links is c00l
[05:56] <emet> :)
[05:56] <wenko2> Fuzzehskittlez, did u know that they u do the -.- it is actually a k in morse code too
[05:56] <techie_> can I use any audio recorders directly into ubuntu usb ports?
[05:56] <statix> how do you see your windows directories while in a live cd boot?
[05:57] <war59312> --- . ---
[05:57] <techie_> I meant usb ports in pc through Ubuntu linux?
[05:57] <wenko2> o e o
[05:57] <war59312> whoops
[05:57] <war59312> meant sos of course
[05:57] <pavs> does ubuntu supporting touchscreen computer ie, http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/computers/desktops/IQ770_series/rts/4/computer_store/RN635AA%2523ABA
[05:57] <wenko2> ... --- ...
[05:57] <nootrope> statix: if your drive is alive, knoppix will mount it
[05:57] <bcrowe> techie - I'd check importing the audio with VLC, it can do abot anything
[05:57] <nootrope> if it's not there, it's probably dead
[05:58] <bcrowe> about
[05:58] <techie_> nootrope I had erased vlc but will reinstall and try it.
[05:58] <techie_> thanks.
[05:58] <bluefox83> !nvidia
[05:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:58] <techie_> bcrowe but I think the problem is that ubuntu is not recognizing or reading my usb yet?
[05:58] <BUMBACL0T> them sneakers on your feet cost $100 a pop; my people making 50 cents a day in sweatshops; to make them kicks, so you can look good; you think we open restaurants coz we cook good?; hell no, we aint got no choice, i gotta speak up, without me my people have no voice
[05:59] <nootrope> techie_ you can also try a demuxer
[05:59] <billy> greetings earthlings.
[05:59] <hcook> anybody know where the setting is in firefox to make alt-enter in the address/search bars open stuff in a new tab?
anyway for Ubuntu to recognize the usb or to even read it first?
[05:59] <Fuzzehskittlez> wich linux does beryl work best on?
[05:59] <BUMBACL0T> sabayon
[06:00] <billy> i have a very strange problem.
interesting but what is demuxer a program?
[06:00] <|thunder> works great on edgy
[06:00] <nootrope> statix_, you already tried booting from the knoppix live cd?
[06:00] <Fuzzehskittlez> sabayon or edgy?
[06:00] <bcrowe> I'm still a noob, sorry
[06:00] <nootrope> techie_, it allows you to rip the video and audio separately
[06:00] <techie_> bcrowe... thanks nonetheless
[06:00] <Fuzzehskittlez> and thunder wud u mind linking me?
[06:00] <kelsin> Fuzzehskittlez: sabayon is the official distro of beryl
[06:00] <techie_> nootrope it sounds good.
[06:00] <Fuzzehskittlez> o so sabayon wud be best?
[06:00] <billy> openoffice, for the menus and drop-down lists, is displaying english words transliterated into Greek.  Not Greek words, mind you.  But English words, transliterated.  wtf #
[06:01] <kelsin> Fuzzehskittlez: depending on your goals, if you're basing SOLELY on beryl then probably
will vlc help me recognize the usb?
[06:01] <gago0021> hello.. how can I have more than 2 desktops?
[06:01] <duckdown> Can someone tell me what I need to do to watch certain types of videos in Firefox? (The missing plugin says I need application/x-mplayer2)
[06:01] <nootrope> techie_: it's useful for all sorts of cool remix exercises. :)
[06:01] <Fuzzehskittlez> wuts the diffs betwen the diff linuxes kelsin?
[06:01] <nootrope> techie_: nope
[06:01] <|thunder> Fuzzehskittlez; http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Ubuntu-Edgy-Eft-15387.shtml
[06:01] <statix> nootrope: is is a free distro...?
I meant if I have usb cable rrunning from recorder to pc
[06:02] <kelsin> Fuzzehskittlez: you can google that type of information, a ton of stuff can be different
[06:02] <wastrel> gago0021:  right-click the desktop switcher applet and choose preferences
[06:02] <nootrope> statix: knoppix is free!
so the problem then is the usb recognition
[06:02] <Fuzzehskittlez> ok ty
after that any program might be able to receive the audio info.
[06:02] <statix> knoppix.org? com? or net? two are fakes
[06:02] <techie_> Must think about this.
[06:02] <gago0021> wastrel: thanks!
[06:02] <nootrope> techie: don't know what recorder you're using but if there isn't a driver for it, it's not going to help. VLC just plays all sorts of video formats.
[06:03] <techie_> I am using Panasonic RR-US380
[06:03] <nootrope> techie_ don't know anything about it. sorry. :\
so far I have not found any drivers for linux. but I do have the installation software. will that help
[06:03] <|thunder> To all, I am trying to enable Fast Writes and SBA and AGP 8x for my nvidia driver. This tutorial say I need to add 'options nvidia NVreg_EnableAGPSBA=1 NVreg_EnableAGPFW=1 NVreg_ReqAGPRate=8' to /etc/modules.conf. But I dont have this file and I can't figure out where to put it. Any ides anyone?
[06:03] <techie_> ?
[06:03] <gago0021> i am having keyboard problems... how can i change my keyboard configuration? i want to redo the process for keyboard detection done in the ubuntu installation process..
understood.... I will think more about it.
thanks for the attempts and your suggestions.
[06:04] <nootrope> techie_: installation software for linux?
[06:04] <kelsin> |thunder: you can create the file and add those options to it
nor installation for the program that came with the panasonic recorder.
[06:05] <techie_> actually I do not know what is there.... it might have some linux.....
[06:05] <techie_> doubt it
[06:05] <|thunder> kelsin; ya, but my kernel wont know to use those options for my kernel driver.
[06:05] <nootrope> techie_: yeah, but it was written for what OS? probably Windows
yes windows
[06:05] <kelsin> techie_: what are you trying to install?
[06:05] <bcrowe> techie - maybe this helps... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225179
[06:05] <kelsin> |thunder: why not?
[06:05] <slavik> !ru
[06:05] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
yeap, it reeks Windows all over.
[06:06] <nootrope> techie_: then it won't do you any good in linux.
[06:06] <|thunder> kelsin; because the fiel probably exists somewhere else by someother name.
[06:06] <techie_> I am trying to send voice from handheld recorder to pc via usb cable.
[06:06] <ToddEDM2> when i put the command IWCONFIG ... i see  IEEE 802.11g  ESID: """ .....
[06:06] <nootrope> techie_: add to that the whole USB mess and you're gonna have a hard time finding a way for that thing to get recognized
[06:06] <mau> I have OSXvnc running on my mac and using Gnome-RDP to connect on ubuntu...  any ideas why I can't see my mac?
[06:06] <ToddEDM2> how do i find my network
[06:06] <jason0_> Anyone here use rtorrent?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> jason0_: sometimes, yes
I am trying to send voice to pc so that I can create tapes in dvd for someone
[06:07] <nootrope> techie_: use an audio cable to your soundboard's mic or line-in
[06:07] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[06:07] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:07] <Neronious> toddedm2: try ifconfig
[06:07] <jason0_> thoreauputic: do you notic any sporatic behavior when seeding?
[06:07] <techie_> nootrope... that's a thought....
[06:07] <thoreauputic> jason0_: no - it seems to be quite constant if that's what you mean
[06:08] <ToddEDM2> Neronious.. actually on my windows machine, i goto the router setup and i see the laptop connected
[06:08] <hcook> anybody know why alt-enter in the address bar isn't opening a new tab? and/or where the setting is for me to change it back?
any suggestions?
[06:08] <nootrope> techie_ what recording software you using on the uuntu end?
[06:08] <nootrope> ubuntu
[06:08] <jason0_> thoreauputic: right now I'm seeding a torrent with 1 peer connected. rtorrent was just sitting there so I started up azureus with the same torrent and it instantly started seeding.
[06:08] <hcook> er...in firefox, that is
that I have not figured out yet... I was going to ask
[06:08] <Sanjay> Hello?
[06:08] <jason0_> thoreauputic: but there are times when rtorrent seeds so it doesn't seem like a port problem
[06:08] <Neronious> ToddEDM2: ahh well i think its netview for windows
[06:08] <wastrel> hcook:  is your windowmanager overriding that keyboard combo?
[06:09] <nootrope> techie_: try Ardour
[06:09] <ToddEDM2> Neronious.. huh ?
[06:09] <thoreauputic> jason0_: I find rtorrent sometimes doesn't reconnect after stopping it and restarting
[06:09] <techie_> ardour.... through synaptic package?
[06:09] <foutrelis> morning :)
[06:09] <hcook> wastrel: hmm...dunno...
[06:09] <jason0_> thoreauptic: reconnect to the tracker?
[06:09] <Neronious> ToddEDM2: nvm i think its been a long day and i misread somewhere sorry..
I will search it and download it
[06:09] <ToddEDM2> lol np
[06:09] <thoreauputic> jason0_: it seems to have trouble scraping, yes
[06:09] <nootrope> techie_: i thik so. you'll need Jack, too, if you want to use audio from one app to plug into another
[06:09] <bcrowe> Techie: I would think you could stream it in to an audio recorder like Ardour or Audacity
[06:09] <jason0_> thoreauptic: what version are you using?
[06:09] <panfist> hey everyone, when i try to add a third party cd-rom repository it hangs on "unmounting cd-rom" even though it is definitely unmounted already, is there a work around for this, or another way i can add third party -offline- repositories, for example maybe an .iso file?
[06:10] <an0k> I'm having a problem with glxinfo. I've installed the correct nvidia drivers and it works beautifully, but when I grep glxinfo for direct it says No...anyone know the answer?
[06:10] <kelsin> techie_: I can't see your replies easily, just use the persons name and a colon instead of <name>, what type of handheld recorder are you useing?
[06:10] <bcrowe> gotta go, luck to all...
[06:10] <ToddEDM2> how can i scroll back in the terminal
[06:10] <thoreauputic> jason0_: the dapper version, whatever that is ( fairly old now)
I have the cable already
[06:10] <Nevermore> I'm having troubles with self harm.
[06:10] <inpho> does ubuntu come with a gay ntfs module that doesnt have ntfs write support??
[06:10] <nootrope> techie_ but if all you're doing is recording this as a one-off thing, setting up Ardour isn't worth while the trouble.
[06:10] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3g | inpho
[06:10] <ubotu> inpho: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:10] <thoreauputic> jason0_: although the Debian Sid version seems to have the same issue
[06:11] <nootrope> techie_ just use Sound Recorder
[06:11] <arrenlex> an0k: Running just standard X?
[06:11] <ToddEDM2> how can i scroll back up in the terminal............anyone?
 I am using Panasonic Ic RR-US380 which uses a usb cable from handheld to pc
[06:11] <an0k> Xgl
[06:11] <inpho> thanks!
[06:11] <kelsin> ToddEDM2: shift-pageup
[06:11] <foutrelis> ToddEDM2: Shutdown X?
[06:11] <bcrowe> use ntfs-3g   http://www.ntfs-3g.org/releases.html
[06:11] <ToddEDM2> thank you kelsin
[06:11] <Nevermore> I cut thigh too deep. The muscle burns and I can't walk on it.
[06:11] <bcrowe> full read/ write of NTFS partitions
[06:11] <wastrel> ToddEDM2:  the scrollback is deleted when you switch VT's
[06:11] <arrenlex> !offtopic | Nevermore
[06:11] <ubotu> Nevermore: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:12] <jason0_> thoreauputic: seems like 7.2 is out now, I'm going to search through the change lgo
[06:12] <jason0_> *log
[06:12] <Nevermore> ah, thank you. ill go find a friend over there
[06:12] <bcrowe> ubotu, it's out of beta
soundrecorder would be good if I was at the computer. I am recording sessions and then bring the hanheld to the computer and transfer at a convenient time.
[06:12] <thoreauputic> jason0_: I tried to compile from svn but it bommbed out :)
[06:12] <bcrowe> http://www.ntfs-3g.org/releases.html
[06:12] <ToddEDM2> hmmmmmm shift pageup doesnt work
[06:12] <wastrel> ToddEDM2:  the scrollback is deleted when you switch VT's
[06:12] <jake333> is untar the same as extracting the file
[06:13] <bcrowe> later all
[06:13] <nootrope> techie_ Sound recorder will let you do that. just set the input to Line-in or Mic or Aux or whatever
[06:13] <arrenlex> !who | an0k
[06:13] <ubotu> an0k: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[06:13] <ToddEDM2> wastrel , IM NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN
[06:13] <ToddEDM2> oops caps
[06:13] <arrenlex> an0k: Why are you running xgl if you have nvidia?
[06:13] <foutrelis> jake333: yes
[06:13] <arrenlex> an0k: With xgl running, you won't get direct rendering anymore.
did you understand my last message.
[06:14] <wastrel> ToddEDM2:  it means if you switch to another terminal and then switch back, the scrollback is deleted so you can't see it even with shift-pgup
I will give that idea a try tomorrow. the point is that my usb is not recognized by Ubuntu so when the transfer takes place... it would not be accepted.
I need to make sure that Ubuntu recognizes that transfer!
[06:14] <kelsin> techie_: when you plug it in, does it not popup like a harddisk?
[06:14] <ToddEDM2> well i didnbt switch, and it still wont scroll up
no it does not.
[06:15] <nootrope> techie_ OH! your recorder only has a USB, no headphone jack?
[06:15] <an0k> arrenlex: Why doesn't direct rendering not work under xgl? And why not run it?
[06:15] <wastrel> ToddEDM2:  what terminal?  this is the console or xterm or something?   are you using screen?
[06:15] <techie_> nootrope.... that's correct
[06:15] <jair> hey guys if I am running a version of xubuntu, kubuntu or ubuntu, can I install the other windows managers on them for example -> kde in ubuntu?
[06:15] <nootrope> techie_ sorry. i was barking up the wrong tree!! :|
[06:15] <ToddEDM2> i pressed ctrl-alt F1
[06:15] <thoreauputic> jair: yes - install kubuntu-desktop
[06:16] <techie_> nootrope.... i understood you were trying to brainstorm!
[06:16] <techie_> ^_^
[06:16] <kelsin> jair: yes, almost the only difference between kubuntu, ubuntu etc is what -desktop package they install
[06:16] <nootrope> techie_ no removable memory?
[06:16] <thoreauputic> jair: you can install other WMs too - Fluxbox, wmaker, etc
[06:16] <jair> kelsin: Thanks
[06:16] <arrenlex> an0k: It has to do with the fact that xgl itself is accelerated, so the programs running inside it cannot be. I'm not exactly up on the technical details. You shouldn't be running xgl because xgl is for ATI.
[06:16] <jair> thoreauputic: perfect
[06:17] <techie_> nootrope... i might have one of those thingys a thumb memory as they call it
[06:17] <techie_> I might try that
[06:17] <hcook> wastrel: i just went through all the various shortcuts menus in beryl-settings, and alt-enter isn't in use anywhere by the wm near as i can tell...
[06:17] <jair> it will continue installing packages from ubuntu as well :)
[06:17] <jair> right
[06:17] <blanky> arrenlex: xgl is for ati?
[06:17] <jair> thank you very much
[06:17] <arrenlex> blanky: Yep. Isn't it?
[06:17] <blanky> hey what's up arrenlex long time no see! :)
[06:17] <wastrel> hcook:  dunno - i don't use beryl...
[06:17] <blanky> arrenlex: I dont think so... :/
[06:17] <nootrope> techie_ but the recorder doesn't have a removable memory like flash memory, right?
[06:17] <an0k> arrenlex: I thought xgl was for nvidia and axgl or something was better for ati
[06:17] <hcook> wastrel: it's not a beryl problem....
[06:18] <techie_> anyway thanks to all of you... I must go and take a few zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz since I get up early., too early.
[06:18] <techie_> thanks again.
[06:18] <blanky> an0k and arrenlex either one is for either :), just that some work better on some
[06:18] <billy> would my system even work if I didn't have the right driver installed for my motherboard?
[06:18] <blanky> anywyas, later guys!
[06:18] <blanky> have fun!
[06:18] <nootrope> np!
[06:18] <blanky> good night guys
[06:18] <blanky> later arrenlex
[06:18] <arrenlex> an0k: Other way around. aiglx definitely doesn't work with ati.
[06:18] <Cdeszaq> Does anyone have experience setting up Samba?
[06:18] <kelsin> gnus
[06:19] <arrenlex> an0k: I think they're more knowledgeable about this technical nitty-gritty in #ubuntu-effects
[06:19] <wastrel> you can't run 3d apps under xgl?
[06:19] <Cdeszaq> "Other way around. aiglx definitely doesn't work with ati." ...Not true...I have it working right now w/ my ATI card
[06:19] <arrenlex> Cdeszaq: With fglrx?
[06:20] <jake333> root@jacob-desktop:/home/jacob# tar xfz DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5.4-Linux.tar.gz
[06:20] <jake333> tar: DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5.4-Linux.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[06:20] <jake333> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:20] <jake333> tar: Child returned status 2
[06:20] <jake333> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:20] <jake333> i cannot unzip!?
[06:20] <an0k> thanks
[06:20] <kelsin> wastrel: I don't know about xgl, but I ran wow all the time in linux with AIGLX and compiz running
[06:20] <Cdeszaq> arrenlex: no..."radeon" drivers
[06:20] <kelsin> !pastebin > jake333
[06:20] <Cdeszaq> !repeat
[06:20] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:20] <arrenlex> Cdeszaq: Exactly. Radeon is not sufficient for most people wishing to run a 3D accelerated environment.
[06:20] <h3h_timo> could someone help me with playing m4a songs??
[06:20] <thoreauputic> jake333: you are probably inthe wrong directory :)
[06:20] <arrenlex> Cdeszaq: If you have an older card without excessive 3D needs, it'll do, but it's a different story.
[06:20] <kelsin> h3h_timo: encrypted m4a songs?
[06:20] <Cdeszaq> arrenlex: Well, it works fully for my card...
[06:20] <owner> can someone help me install lamp when i do it i get some errors
[06:20] <kelsin> h3h_timo: like from iTunes store?
[06:20] <h3h_timo> kelsin, just normal ones i guess??
[06:20] <h3h_timo> kelsin, no
[06:21] <arrenlex> Cdeszaq: What card?
[06:21] <owner> pleas
[06:21] <Cdeszaq> X8500 I think
[06:21] <h3h_timo> kelsin, they are just normal mp4 songs or whatever maybe??
[06:21] <sevenpacks> ohir, who buys ati now?
[06:21] <h3h_timo> kelsin, like podcasts, or things like that
[06:21] <Cdeszaq> Any experience with Samba in here?
[06:21] <sevenpacks> ati is history, man
[06:21] <arrenlex> Cdeszaq: What does "lspci | grep -i ati" say?
[06:22] <Cdeszaq> arrenlex: It is the X8500
[06:22] <sevenpacks> i must say sorry to the yellow boss of ati
[06:22] <kelsin> h3h_timo: you need the "faad" gstreamer plugins, I don't know what package their in right now, looking
[06:23] <arrenlex> Cdeszaq: Could you paste the output, please?
[06:23] <h3h_timo> kelsin, alright thanks ill wait
[06:23] <billy> how do i know that i have the correct motherboard driver installed?
[06:24] <kelsin> h3h_timo: make sure you have all of the gstreamer-plugins-* packages, like gstreamer-plugins-ugly etc from multiverse and universe
[06:24] <Cdeszaq> arrenlex: I would, but that comp is currently booted into Windows b/c I am trying to get some Samba stuff working
[06:24] <jake333> im constantly getting a error when i try to install darwin streaming server it says chown: qtss 'invalid user'
[06:25] <foutrelis> billy: Drivers are not needed. Just for the GPU maybe. It's all in the kernel. :)
[06:25] <dustin> hey i have a epson printer that i need to install how should i go aobut doing this   i run dapper... and i have never installed a printer under ubuntu?
[06:25] <kelsin> sounds like it wants to use a qtss user, do you have a qtss user on your system? If you either have to add it, or edit a config file for the program to change what user it's trying to use
[06:25] <h3h_timo> kelsin, thanks alot ill give it a shot
[06:25] <mrdigital> Hi im a Windows user.. possibly moving to Ubuntu any suggestions/advice?
[06:25] <naut> ! LaTeX Error: File `ifpdf.sty' not found.
[06:25] <naut> What does this error mean?
[06:25] <naut> anyone know?
[06:26] <thoreauputic> !install |mrdigital
[06:26] <ToddEDM2> mrdigital.... get it working properly
[06:26] <ubotu> mrdigital: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:26] <kelsin> h3h_timo: yeah, in gstreamer 0.8 they user to have a separate package, I think it's in one of the bad or ugly packages now
[06:26] <naut> I can't find anything intelligible thru google
[06:26] <kelsin> naut: you're tryign to use the ifpdf style file and it's not there, can you paste the latex file that you're using in pastebin?
[06:26] <h3h_timo> kelsin, should i restart x after i install those??
[06:26] <mrdigital> thoreauputic: i know how to install linux.. any one have like a photoshop(not gimp) recommendation for linux?
[06:26] <naut> ok
[06:26] <dustin> ahh maybe system administration printer printer
[06:27] <kelsin> h3h_timo: I guess I shoudl ahve asked first, what program are you trying to use to play these?
[06:27] <dustin> mrdigital, inkscape
[06:27] <dustin> mrdigital, what are you doing?
[06:27] <h3h_timo> kelsin, songbird
[06:27] <billy> foutrelis: thanks for response.  What is GPU?  I'm new to computing.
[06:27] <h3h_timo> kelsin, i could also try in exaile
[06:27] <gyaresu> !offtopic | mrdigital
[06:27] <ubotu> mrdigital: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:27] <kelsin> mrdigital: inkscape is for vector work, like illustrator, gimp is your best bet
[06:28] <dustin> gyaresu, never heard of an offtopic call about a program....
[06:28] <shatrat> billy, GPU means graphics processing unit, graphics adapter, graphics card, etc
[06:28] <billy> foutrelis:  would it be obvious if something wasn't right?
[06:28] <foutrelis> billy: GPU stands for "Graphics Processor Unit".
[06:28] <thoreauputic> mrdigital: there is also a Linux version of XaraLX, but not in the repositories
[06:29] <kelsin> h3h_timo: exaile, rythmbox and banshee and listen all use gstreamer and for those you would need those gstramer plugins, I honestly don't know about songbird
[06:29] <naut> kelsin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8747/
[06:29] <krash123> i got this , 25gb for win, 10gb for linux, 1gb for swap, 2gb for home, and like 40gb missing, how can i make a partition visible for both OS's with the missing space ?
[06:29] <dustin> mrdigital, if you are still here i hear that cedega (sp) runs photoshop.
[06:29] <billy> shatrat, foutrelis: thank u.
[06:29] <mrdigital> Cedega?
[06:29] <kelsin> krash123: make it formated with fat32
[06:29] <h3h_timo> kelsin, nothing is working besides vlc
[06:29] <foutrelis> billy: If you are not experiencing any problems then most likely everything is fine :)
[06:29] <dustin> XaraLX is also good
[06:29] <thoreauputic> !cedega
[06:29] <gyaresu> dustin: for recommendations about 'possibly moving to linux'. That's just gonna flood this chanel with opinions.
[06:29] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[06:29] <h3h_timo> kelsin, it used to work before i installed dvd support
[06:29] <shatrat> billy, the things you might need drivers for are graphics card and wireless, most everthing else is supported on its own.  If your display is jerky or low resolution then you might need to install some different non-open source drivers
[06:29] <krash123> kelsin, but i already have 4 primary partitions.....
[06:29] <gyaresu> dustin: I'd answer it in offtopic though.
[06:29] <kingcobra> bulmer: interfaces now has rausb0 in it, iftab blank, networking has wireless connection with essid and password, iwconfig rausb0 but no essid, ifconfig shows sent and received data and the light is working on the adaptor
[06:30] <sevenpacks> I have heard of cedega is unfriendly
[06:30] <omega> elow
[06:30] <mrdigital> dustin: shoot over to the offtopic chan?
[06:30] <jason0_> Trying to compile rtorrent but getting this error during configure: Could not find openssl's crypto library. What library is this specifically?
[06:30] <sevenpacks> to the community
[06:30] <sevenpacks> cedega = winex?
[06:31] <kelsin> krash123: you have to make one of them an extended partition then you make more partitions in the "extended" one
[06:31] <FunnyLookinHat> jason0_, you do realise rtorrent is in the repositories, right?  : )
[06:31] <billy> foutrelis, shatrat: definitely no problems w/ the graphics.  behaviour of cpu frequency scaling had me concerned.
[06:31] <sevenpacks> winex != wine
[06:31] <bulmer> kingcobra: um if i were you, id remove the wep or wpa security for now until you get the wireless working
[06:31] <Kidge> hey guys
[06:31] <kingcobra> gyaresu: can you tell me what is wrong with my network connection
[06:31] <shatrat> billy, does it not scale up?
[06:31] <idiot_> are there any plans on putting in process level disk read/write requests or socket level packet/byte statistics available in the /proc file system?
[06:31] <krash123> kelsin, wich do you recommend me to make extended ?
[06:31] <sevenpacks> wine = crossover
[06:31] <kingcobra> bulmer: ok ill do that
[06:31] <Guest_370> Noob question--I cannot get any downloaded version of ubuntu to install. Have tried 6.06, 6.10, 6.06 alt, have changed HD, cdrom, cd rom media. ido burners, have burnt super slow, have downloaded via bittorrent, and the result is the ubuntu startup screen, then either a hang up after drivers installed, or in some cases, kernal panic. What is the world am I doing wrong?
[06:31] <arrenlex> sevenpacks: wine != crossover
[06:31] <jason0_> FunnyLookinHat: Yes, but I want the newest version.
[06:32] <wastrel> idiot_:  you're asking here?  :]
[06:32] <arrenlex> sevenpacks: crossover = wine + hacks + money
[06:32] <sevenpacks> hehe
[06:32] <kelsin> naut: you have tetex-base installed correct?
[06:32] <ubuntu> HOLAAAAAAA
[06:32] <sevenpacks> but it's more friendly
[06:32] <idiot_> wastrel, should i try #linux?  where do you recommend?
[06:32] <cris> T_T
[06:32] <gyaresu> kingcobra: hey again. Where are you up to?
[06:32] <cris> guys
[06:32] <billy> shatrat: scales fine, it seems, but the 'range' seems a bit high.  2.4 GHz is lowest it'll go.
[06:32] <cris> feisty comes with compiz
[06:32] <FunnyLookinHat> jason0_, ooh.   try sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[06:32] <thoreauputic> Guest_370: what hardware ?
[06:32] <joshjosh> how many people here have upgraded to herd 5?
[06:32] <wastrel> idiot_:  #linux would be a better bet.  we get mostly desktop support questions here.
[06:33] <kingcobra> gyaresu: hey im tryin to get my network working
[06:33] <idiot_> ok, sorry to bother, thanks...
[06:33] <Guest_370> p4 2.4, 1 g ram, seagate 250g hd
[06:33] <jason0_> FunnyLookinHat: th4nks
[06:33] <FunnyLookinHat> joshjosh, probably not many considering #ubuntu+1 is the feisty channel   : )
[06:33] <shatrat> billy, i'm not sure how to change the stepping on that.
[06:33] <FunnyLookinHat> jason0_, no problem, lemme know if it works or if you need more help
[06:33] <kingcobra> gyaresu: interfaces now has rausb0 in it, iftab blank, networking has wireless connection with essid and password, iwconfig rausb0 but no essid, ifconfig shows sent and received data and the light is working on the adaptor
[06:33] <Neronious> can anyone tell me a good windows emulator, i dont care which one just one that does the most crap
[06:33] <h3h_timo> kelsin, it worked until i installed dvd support with xine!
[06:33] <FunnyLookinHat> Neronious, you probably want wine since it's a) free and b) in the repos
[06:33] <naut> kelsin, sorry I just realised I have to go now
[06:33] <sevenpacks> Guest_370,  what's your bogomips?
[06:33] <thoreauputic> Guest_370: have you tried booting with acpi=off etc ? there are codes - check the menu entries on the alternative CD
[06:34] <Neronious> ty
[06:34] <eck> FunnyLookinHat: wine is not an emulator :-)
[06:34] <naut> I'll have to get back to this tomrrrow, thanks for your help
[06:34] <jason0_> FunnyLookinHat: Will do, I'm compiling this on an nslu2, should be interesting ;p
[06:34] <gyaresu> kingcobra: Using networkmanager?
[06:34] <FunnyLookinHat> eck, i'm so sick of people telling me that  : )    even when I didn't say the word emulator.
[06:34] <FunnyLookinHat> ; )
[06:34] <Kidge> man im too new to this and i have no foundation
[06:34] <sevenpacks> Guest_370,  is your bogomips larger than 4500?
[06:34] <Kidge> i dont know what to do
[06:34] <billy> shatrat:  so long as wouldn't create a problem.  i was concerned that it may indicate some problem with the driver.
[06:34] <eck> i know, i was just being pedantic :-)
[06:34] <Guest_370> problem is, I don't know that I can get into the menus since I am installing to a computer with no operating system
[06:35] <Kidge> i installed wine and gstreamer
[06:35] <Kidge> now what do i do ?
[06:35] <thoreauputic> Guest_370: the menus are on the boot-up screen of the CD
[06:35] <kingcobr1> bulmer: wireless security is gone now
[06:35] <eck> Kidge: what are you trying to do?
[06:35] <bulmer> kingcobra: what is result of   iwconfig rausb0 scan ?
[06:36] <bullgard1> I am new with irssi. I get the message: "No identd (auth) response." How can I get rid of this message?
[06:36] <thoreauputic> Guest_370: the *alternate* CD that is
[06:36] <thoreauputic> bullgard1: install an identd server like gidentd
[06:36] <gyaresu> bullgard1: There is an irssi channel btw.
[06:36] <sevenpacks> bullgard1,  can identd steal some info from the user?
[06:36] <eck> bullgard1: i would not worry about it, you do not need to run identd to connect to most networks
[06:36] <FunnyLookinHat> it steals your soul.
[06:36] <Guest_370> I haven't seen the acpi=off option yet. Are we talking 6.06 alt?
[06:36] <sevenpacks> hahaha
[06:37] <Guest_370> thanks for the answers, btw
[06:37] <FunnyLookinHat> your mom is a fake identd
[06:37] <thoreauputic> Guest_370: yes - I don't have it in front of me of course, but the "cheat" codes are there somewhere ( key combo is on the screen)
[06:37] <FunnyLookinHat> anyways, i'm out  : )
[06:38] <kingcobr1> bulmer: unrecognised wireless request "scan"
[06:38] <thoreauputic> Guest_370: alt-F* probably ( don't remember the number)
[06:38] <bullgard1>  thoreauputic: Thank you.
[06:39] <kelsin> kingcobr1: it's iwlist rausb0 scan
[06:39] <bulmer> kingcobra: i meant  iwlist rausb0 scan
[06:39] <bullgard1> gyaresu: Thank you.
[06:39] <kelsin> bulmer: :)
[06:39] <billy> :exit_earthcreature:
[06:39] <billy> swooosh
[06:39] <thoreauputic> bullgard1: :)
[06:39] <gyaresu> bullgard1: np
[06:39] <bulmer> kelsin thanks for correcting me..
[06:40] <bullgard1>  eck: Thank you.
[06:40] <kingcobr1> bulmer: yes YES yes there are 3 networks
[06:40] <kingcobr1> bulmer: how do i connect to my 1
[06:41] <boomhowza> hi, im thinking of installing ubuntu, but my family want to use the windows XP, now acording to the magazine, it boots the linux by deafult because of the dual booting, i need to know how to make the deafult boot windows, any suggestions?>
[06:41] <Guest_370> I'm looking now and I see the following: Install in text mode, install in oem, Install a command line system, Check CD, Rescue broken system, Memtest, boot from hard drive
[06:41] <Guest_370> then at the bottom...
[06:41] <kelsin> kingcobr1: two steps: "iwconfig rausb1 essid <essid-name>", then "dhclient rausb0"
[06:41] <jrm4> How does one change the default download location for the command line bittorrent client?
[06:41] <BeepAU> boomhowza, thats easy to do
[06:42] <kelsin> kingcobr1: replace <essid-name> with the essid of the router you want to connect to
[06:42] <boomhowza> lol, how
[06:42] <eternalswd> I'm having trouble setting up mpd output to icecast2.  How exactly do the mount points work?
[06:42] <kelsin> kingcobr1: the first command connects your card to the router, the second requests an IP address
[06:42] <BeepAU> it's as easy as editing one character in a text doc
[06:42] <boomhowza> ??
[06:42] <bulmer> kingcobra: kelsin gave you the steps
[06:42] <BeepAU> have you got ubuntu installed?
[06:42] <boomhowza> not yet
[06:42] <Guest_370> f3 keymap, f4 vga, f5 accessability, f6other options
[06:43] <boomhowza> just ell me what to do, and i will do it
[06:43] <thoreauputic> Guest_370: try other options :)
[06:43] <BeepAU> ok, just a second
[06:43] <_3uG_> does anyone know how to replace /usr/share/dict/words ?
[06:43] <boomhowza> thx ;)
[06:43] <kingcobr1> bulmer: ok thanx
[06:43] <Guest_370> ty going there now
[06:43] <kingcobr1> kelsin:thanx
[06:44] <owner_> can someone help me install lamp
[06:44] <ravehanker> hi, I installed kde on my system a few days ago and Now, some of my keyboard Shorcuts don't work in Gnome. How do i fix this?
[06:44] <_3uG_> i seem to not have one, even though it should be there
[06:44] <thoreauputic> !lamp
[06:44] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:44] <bulmer> kingcobr1: you're connected to the AP now?
[06:44] <shatrat> boomhowza, there is a file called /boot/grub/menu.lst which has the grub boot menu, just change the default boot number, or paste the windows entry above the linux one
[06:44] <kelsin> bulmer: now it's bedtime for me, sorry for stepping on any toes, kingcobr1: good luck :)
[06:44] <boomhowza> kk thx :D
[06:44] <quaal> does anyone use syslog-ng
[06:45] <BeepAU> $ sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:45] <owner_> when i try to install mysql-server it gives me dependency errors
[06:45] <BeepAU> then input the password
[06:45] <shatrat> BeepAU, it should be gksudo gedit, or sudo nano
[06:45] <bulmer> kelsin thanks for sharing
[06:45] <BeepAU> meh, sudo gedit works fine
[06:45] <arrenlex> !worksforme
[06:45] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:45] <kingcobr1> thank you kelsin
[06:46] <shatrat> BeepAU, it can hose your system launching gui apps with sudo
[06:46] <arrenlex> !gksu
[06:46] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>
[06:46] <boomhowza> before i install, what is so different about linux then windows, and whats the features
[06:46] <quaal> uhh
[06:46] <thoreauputic> boomhowza: that's way too general
[06:46] <bulmer> boomhowza: umm can you attempt to read some from google?
[06:46] <quaal> boomhowza, www.google.com
[06:46] <arrenlex> boomhowza: More customisable and free as in speech.
[06:46] <BeepAU> thats a broad question
[06:46] <shatrat> boomhowza, its free, secure, more software available, looks better
[06:46] <panfist> is there another way to load offline repositories except a physical cd/dvd? synaptic won't get passed "unmounting cd-rom"
[06:46] <Guest_370> Hi, when I hit f6 it comes up with a choice of normal mode or expert mode
[06:46] <kingcobr1> bulmer: not yet, error for wireless request set essid (8b1a)
[06:47] <boomhowza> thx guys ;)
[06:47] <umop> I have a gnome panel and for some reason it is stuck in the middle of the screen- i can't move it.  Any hints?
[06:47] <boomhowza> can i use windows programs with it, cuz i have a few important ones
[06:47] <h3h_timo> boomhowza, look into every aspect before you jump in, that way you know how to fix it incase something goes wrong
[06:47] <BeepAU> oh, i wanted to ask a question
[06:47] <boomhowza> that wat im doin ;)
[06:47] <globe> is there a command line util to see how much of a disk is free?
[06:47] <bulmer> kingcobr1: well, play around with iwlist and iwconfig,  man these two...at least you are a step close now eh?
[06:47] <BeepAU> it's a n00b one, don't flame me
[06:47] <jlgaddis> globe: "df -h"
[06:48] <arrenlex> boomhowza: No. There is a special program which emulates functions of windows, but it will only work for a few programs, and the rest won't run very well.
[06:48] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, spit it out
[06:48] <BeepAU> i installed ubuntu on my laptop and theres no sound
[06:48] <kingcobr1> bulmer: im gettin close alright
[06:48] <BeepAU> what to do?
[06:48] <Guest_370> I still can find no option for acpi=off
[06:48] <Hmmmm> hey guys, i have an HP printer shared over SAMBA. the windows machines slow down when trying to print with it
[06:48] <ravehanker> hi, I installed kde on my system a few days ago and Now, some of my keyboard Shorcuts don't work in Gnome. How do i fix this?
[06:48] <globe> jlgaddis: thanks
[06:48] <shatrat> BeepAU, first check alsamixer, make sure its not muted or something
[06:48] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, not so noobish... lots of people have sound problems
[06:48] <shatrat> BeepAU, there will be a lot of mixer sliders, and some toggles and stuff.
[06:48] <BeepAU> its not muted
[06:48] <boomhowza> hmm... well, i was gonna use the linux for a private computer, can the windows view my linux files
[06:49] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, if alsamixer is fine, what kind of card do you have
[06:49] <arrenlex> boomhowza: Yes.
[06:49] <h3h_timo> boomhowza, yeah windows can view linux files, you will have to download a driver tho
[06:49] <ravehanker> boomhowza:- i think there is some software called Captain Nemo that will let you do this
[06:49] <boomhowza> can i hide it???
[06:49] <posingaspopular> boomhowza: try fs-driver.org
[06:49] <shatrat> boomhowza, ravehanker fs-driver.org is a good win32 ext2/3 implementation
[06:49] <thoreauputic> Guest_370: it's a boot line option - you just type linux acpi=off  if I remeber correctly - see if you can google for other options, or search the wiki and forums
[06:49] <gyaresu> boomhowza: these questions are better suited in channel #ubuntu-offtopic folks will help you there.
[06:49] <BeepAU> nvidia geforce 6100
[06:50] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, is that your video card or sound card??
[06:50] <shatrat> that's video
[06:50] <boomhowza> thx
[06:50] <BeepAU> video
[06:50] <BeepAU> i don't know my sound card
[06:50] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, what kind of laptop do you have/how new??
[06:50] <BeepAU> i just bought it
[06:50] <posingaspopular> BeepAU: lspci
[06:50] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, its prolly an hda card, and i had alot of problems with mine
[06:50] <panfist> i'm trying to add a repository in synaptic from a cd/dvd and it hangs at "unmounting cd-rom." is there any other way to add offline repositories?
[06:50] <BeepAU> is there a command to find out?
[06:51] <arrenlex> panfist: man apt-cdrom
[06:51] <posingaspopular> lspci
[06:51] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, yeah, lspci like posingaspopular said
[06:51] <posingaspopular> list pc information for longhand
[06:51] <panfist> thanks arrenlex
[06:51] <arrenlex> posingaspopular: I always thought it was list PCI devices.
[06:52] <posingaspopular> arrenlex: is that it? not too sure
[06:52] <BeepAU> theres alot there, what should i be looking at?
[06:52] <arrenlex> posingaspopular: Confirmed by the fact that it lists the pci address before each entry.
[06:52] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, search through until you find something that you think is for your sound
[06:52] <gyaresu> panfist: you can just add the packages to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:52] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, what kind of laptop?
[06:52] <posingaspopular> i guess you're right
[06:52] <quaal> does anyone know how to configure a syslog server
[06:52] <boomhowza> before i install, is it possible to uninstall incase i think its not what i need
[06:52] <globe> is there a way to tell the total size of a directory (and all its sub files)?
[06:53] <globe> (on the terminal)
[06:53] <wastrel> du -sh directory
[06:53] <h3h_timo> boomhowza, yeah, as long as you have your windows install cd if thats what you want to go back to
[06:53] <BeepAU> i've got a medion, turion 64 2ghz, 512mb ram ...
[06:53] <gyaresu> boomhowza: Why did you leave offtopic?
[06:53] <boomhowza> i dunno :D
[06:54] <BeepAU> 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[06:54] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, alright, there should be a section that says something like audio device: intel coprotation....
[06:54] <h3h_timo> yeah
[06:54] <gyaresu> boomhowza: Dude _this_ is the main channel for tech support only. offtopic is fine for general queastions etc.
[06:54] <arrenlex> boomhowza: Why don't you try running ubuntu from the liveCD first? That way, if you don't like it, there's nothing to uninstall.
[06:54] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, are you on dapper?
[06:54] <BeepAU> 6.10
[06:54] <globe> wastrel: thanks
[06:54] <h3h_timo> do you have all of your updates installed?
[06:55] <BeepAU> there was a few that didn't update properly
[06:55] <anonymeeee> ok, how do I change my screen resolution?
[06:55] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, retry those, and then restart
[06:55] <jake333> qtpasswd: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:55] <ravehanker> My gnome keyboard shortcuts aren't working after i installed kde, how to i fix this?
[06:55] <jake333> any help
[06:55] <h3h_timo> if that doesnt work, you may have to recompile your also drivers for hda
[06:55] <gyaresu> anonymeeee: what graphics card do you have?
[06:55] <BeepAU> ok, i'll do that and get back to you
[06:55] <h3h_timo> alright good luck
[06:55] <boomhowza> live cd, hmm, didnt think of that, thx
[06:55] <arrenlex> !fixres | anonymeeee
[06:55] <ubotu> anonymeeee: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:55] <ubm> jake333 you need those dependencies libstdc++ and libc are they installed?
[06:56] <jake333> ubm: i know libstdc++5 and 6 are installed
[06:56] <ubm> jake333 try sudo apt-cache search libstdc++ first
[06:56] <anonymeeee> dunno, whatever came with my hp desktop
[06:56] <anonymeeee> gyaresu: i restarted my system, now I can only get 640x480
[06:57] <ubm> then give sudo apt-cache search libc a shot when you find the correct libs for whatever you are trying to make install then apt-get install
[06:57] <gyaresu> !fixres > anonymeeee
[06:57] <jake333> ok i dont have libc
[06:57] <ubm> jake333 :)
[06:57] <jake333> i have all the others tho
[06:57] <shriphani> jake333, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:58] <Hudson> I have an External HD formatted in NTFS, I have installed NTFS 3G. Can someone tell me what to edit and how so when Ubuntu loads, It mounts the external drive using ntfs3g instead of whatever it normally uses?
[06:58] <ubm> jake333 yeah just install libc then try again i would build from source and ./configure make make install from source
[06:58] <shriphani> !openbox
[06:58] <ubotu> openbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox. To replace metacity with Openbox please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome
[06:58] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3g | Hudson
[06:58] <ubotu> Hudson: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:58] <anonymeeee> !fixres
[06:58] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:59] <gago0021> i am having keyboard problems... how can i change my keyboard configuration? i want to redo the process for keyboard detection done in the ubuntu installation process..
[06:59] <jake333> ubm: im also getting an error when i try to install DSS the error: chown: qtss invalid user
[06:59] <ubm> jake333 its good practice not to get to dependent on apt-get install especially when your trying to make files :) It seems as though you are comfortable with compiling from source
[06:59] <ubm> jake333 did you try as root?
[07:00] <jake333> yea
[07:00] <jake333> ill try again
[07:00] <gyaresu> !keyboard | gago0021
[07:00] <ubotu> gago0021: To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[07:00] <ubm> jake333 try sudo chown -Rf root:root * then sudo ./configure make make install
[07:01] <ubm> jake333 give root chown over all the files in DSS if you are building from source
[07:01] <thoreauputic> jake333: compile errors almost always mean you need * -dev * packages
[07:01] <ardchoille> Keyboard: The thing that prints what you type and not what you want.
[07:01] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell us about yourself
[07:01] <Fuzzehskittlez> were exactly do i dl beryl
[07:01] <ubm> jake did you check for prereqs for the build?
[07:01] <gyaresu> !beryl | Fuzzehskittlez
[07:01] <ubotu> Fuzzehskittlez: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:01] <thoreauputic> ubm: using sudo for ./configure and make is unnecessry and deprecated
[07:02] <jake333> yea
[07:02] <shriphani> guys any idea how to change openbox fonts ?
[07:02] <ubm> thoreauputic not for DSS
[07:02] <PCGenie> I am running  Sun Java 6 on AMD64, does anyone have any links about that combo I can read on my quest to make it work?
[07:02] <LoBo_> how dose one run two OSs in the same system?
[07:02] <arrenlex> LoBo_: Do you mean, dualboot?
[07:02] <Fuzzehskittlez> gyaresu shud i get ubuntu edgy or am i fine with just ubuntu
[07:02] <arrenlex> !dualboot | LoBo_
[07:02] <ubotu> LoBo_: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:03] <LoBo_> thanks for the reply
[07:03] <LoBo_> s
[07:03] <PCGenie> LoBo or maybe you meant running OSes on a Virtual Machine running on an OS
[07:03] <gyaresu> Fuzzehskittlez: Just downlaoad the latest iso from the download page. Edgy.
[07:03] <ardchoille> shriphani: There is a section of fonts here: http://icculus.org/openbox/docs.php?page=config.html#themes
[07:03] <jake333> i cant even untar the file
[07:03] <jake333> i have to extract here
[07:04] <PCGenie> I should also mention that I am running Dappy 64 re: my question
[07:04] <Hudson> arrenlex that really isnt that helpful, what file deals with external usb devices
[07:04] <gyaresu> Fuzzehskittlez: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease
[07:04] <arrenlex> Hudson: What file?
[07:04] <Fuzzehskittlez> gyar i have 6.10 is that edgy?
[07:05] <gyaresu> Hudson: Did you read the part down the page about the 'fstab'. That's what you want.
[07:05] <thoreauputic> Fuzzehskittlez: yes
[07:05] <Hudson> arrenlex that guide shows you how to edit fstab to use ntfs3g, The drive I have that is NTFS is an external hd that auto mounts on system load
[07:05] <Fuzzehskittlez> o ok
[07:05] <Fuzzehskittlez> i cant find the exact place on beryl-project to download
[07:05] <Hudson> or do I just make a new entry for it in fstab
[07:05] <gyaresu> Fuzzehskittlez: Yes it's edgy.
[07:05] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, did you get it figured out??
[07:06] <Fuzzehskittlez> ok, but can u get me exact link? for beyrl
[07:06] <BeepAU> h3h_timo, i updated. i still haven't got any sound.
[07:06] <gyaresu> Fuzzehskittlez: You don't need to download from odd places. You'll just need to fix your repos.
[07:06] <doff> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[07:06] <gyaresu> !repos | Fuzzehskittlez
[07:06] <ubotu> Fuzzehskittlez: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:06] <Fuzzehskittlez> im new to linux gyar idk wut ur saying
[07:06] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, sounds like you need to recompile the alsa drivers... has anyone else tried helping you?
[07:06] <doff> Fuzzehskittlez, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[07:06] <BeepAU> h3h_timo, nope
[07:07] <Fuzzehskittlez> do i instal with XGL?
[07:07] <Flannel> Fuzzehskittlez: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support.  They'll get you all setup
[07:07] <Fuzzehskittlez> or wich 1
[07:07] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, alright im gonna try to point you in the right direction can you hold on for a second?
[07:07] <gyaresu> Fuzzehskittlez: If you are new to linux then just start with getting it installed and work your way up to experimental software.
[07:07] <c0drm0nk33> Is there a ISO spin of the feisty 7.04 yet?
[07:07] <BeepAU> h3h_timo, sure.
[07:07] <doff> Fuzzehskittlez, you choose. Ive installed with xgl and very happy)
[07:08] <Fuzzehskittlez> k, is there anyway i can change resolution
[07:08] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, do you have the 64 bit kernel installed?
[07:08] <Flannel> c0drm0nk33: there's been five of them already.  (all alpha)
[07:08] <BeepAU> h3h_timo, i386
[07:08] <gyaresu> Fuzzehskittlez: Have you installed already?
[07:08] <Fuzzehskittlez> i have 6.10 installed
[07:08] <Fuzzehskittlez> im using now
[07:08] <gyaresu> Fuzzehskittlez: ah.
[07:08] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, what processor do you have?
[07:08] <Fuzzehskittlez> just installed like 5 mins ago
[07:08] <gyaresu> !fixres | Fuzzehskittlez
[07:08] <ubotu> Fuzzehskittlez: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:08] <ravehanker> hi, I installed kde on my system a few days ago and Now, some of my keyboard Shorcuts don't work in Gnome. How do i fix this?
[07:09] <BeepAU> h3h_timo, turion 64 2ghz
[07:09] <jake333> any update?
[07:09] <jake333> isnt there a way someone could make a like packet install thing
[07:09] <Hudson> arrenlex would the hal-system-storage-mount file be what I needed to edit?
[07:09] <jake333> for easy install
[07:09] <c0drm0nk33> Flannel: can you point me to where?
[07:09] <ardchoille> ravehanker: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:09] <Flannel> c0drm0nk33: Check in the topic of #ubuntu+1, I'm sure it's there
[07:09] <h3h_timo> hey guys, what kernel should be installed for an athlon turion 64?? any help please?
[07:10] <c0drm0nk33> Flannel: Thanks!
[07:10] <gyaresu> Hudson: Is this in regards to your external usb ntfs drive?
[07:10] <ravehanker> archangelpetro:- I have my shortcuts there already, My problem is that they are not working after i installed KDE,
[07:10] <Flannel> h3h_timo: Which version of ubuntu?
[07:10] <ravehanker> err ardchoille ^^
[07:10] <Hudson> gyaresu yes
[07:10] <h3h_timo> 6.10
[07:10] <Flannel> h3h_timo: the -generic one
[07:10] <h3h_timo> alright
[07:10] <gyaresu> h3h_timo: are you running in 64bit mode or just 32?
[07:10] <ardchoille> ravehanker: Oh, ok. I don't use KDE so I can't help :(
[07:10] <Hudson> gyaresu I just want it auto mounted with the ntfs3g driver instead of the standard ntfs driver. (so i can have write support)
[07:10] <ravehanker> ardchoille:- kde somehow managed to eat up my shortcuts, is there a special channel for kubuntu?
[07:10] <jake333> first off how do i untar
[07:11] <ardchoille> ravehanker: Oh, ok. I don't use KDE so I can't help :(
[07:11] <jake333> in ubuntu 6.10
[07:11] <gyaresu> Hudson: Re-read the page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ If you want it to automount you will need to change the line in your /etc/fstab file.
[07:11] <lwizardl> hi
[07:11] <ravehanker> ardchoille:- ok, thanks anyways! :)
[07:11] <Allen3373> Ok, so, I need help with installing ubuntu
[07:11] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, try this command " sudo apt-get install linux-generic" and then restart
[07:11] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, then we can go from there when compiling
[07:11] <asku> hello all
[07:11] <lwizardl> anyone familar with neoware thin clients ?
[07:12] <Hudson> gyaresu uhm, I asked this a few minutes ago, there is no entry for it in fstab, is there another file that deals with usb drives or do I have to make a new entry in fstab
[07:12] <asku> i have a question  if someone can help me
[07:12] <gyaresu> !ask
[07:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:12] <BeepAU> h3h_timo, already newest version
[07:12] <jake333> i was gonna say that
[07:12] <jake333> ubm: so how do i untar a file
[07:12] <PCGenie> how can I tell if I am running on 64 bit or 32 bit mode?
[07:12] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, type "uname -r"
[07:13] <gyaresu> Hudson: New entry. Have you installed the ntfs-3g package etc. Where are you up to.
[07:13] <ardchoille> jake333: .tar.gz? .tar.bz2? .tar?
[07:13] <asku> ok  i am today is my first day in ubuntu and i wanna get my laptop online wireless
[07:13] <Allen3373> When I try and install form the boot menu, it just gives me a screen-long interrupt error messege. I don't know what to do to stop it.
[07:13] <arrenlex> PCGenie: uname -m
[07:13] <jake333> ubm: tar.gz
[07:13] <LoBo_> hmmm is it possible to install ubuntu on an external harddrive and duel boot from that? or wold ubuntu NEED to be on my master hardrive so it can detect both OSs?
[07:13] <asku> i cant  install  the pcmia  card
[07:13] <PCGenie> arrenlex, thx
[07:13] <ardchoille> jake333: tar xzf file.tar.gz
[07:13] <richard> nm,n
[07:13] <Hudson> I just used apt-get to get the driver. every guide i can find deals with trying to mount internal NTFS drives and fstab
[07:13] <richard> hola
[07:13] <asku> and  i dont know if  i can conect to router with wep
[07:13] <jake333> ard: doesnt work
[07:13] <gyaresu> !prefix | Hudson
[07:13] <ubotu> Hudson: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[07:14] <BeepAU> h3h_timo, 2.6.17-11-generic
[07:14] <ardchoille> jake333: Are you getting an error?
[07:14] <jake333> ard: yes
[07:14] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, alright hold on a sec
[07:14] <gyaresu> Hudson: Have you figured out how to tell what device name your usb drive is?
[07:14] <ardchoille> jake333: What is the error? Pastebin if olonger than 2 lines
[07:14] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, what kind of sound card did you say you have?
[07:15] <TraceGreen> hello, my harddisk is sata, when i try to mount my usb memory disk, fdisk tells me it is sdb1, but when i mount, the content is sda1's , why?
[07:15] <Hudson> gyaresu, It already automounts with the standard ntfs driver. I know its name, its mount point everything
[07:15] <BeepAU> h3h_timo, 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[07:15] <Hudson> gyaresu all i want is the file that mounts it so I can tell it to mount with the ntfs3g driver instead of the standard ntfs driver
[07:15] <gyaresu> Hudson: can you post the line from running the command 'mount' that lists the device and where it mounts to please?
[07:16] <Allen3373> can anyone tell me how to get ubuntu to install. it's giving me an interrupt error messege.
[07:16] <LoBo_> hmmm is it possible to install ubuntu on an external harddrive and duel boot from that? or wold ubuntu NEED to be on my main hardrive partition so it can detect both OSs?
[07:16] <feng> hi, my laptop IBM R51e(feisty herd 5) cann't run beryl + xgl, any ideas?
[07:16] <Hudson> /dev/sdc   /media/external
[07:16] <Flannel> feng: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[07:16] <gago0021> thanks gyaresu and ubotu
[07:16] <Hudson> er gyaresu /dev/sdc /media/external
[07:17] <jake333> ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8749/
[07:17] <gyaresu> Hudson: the full line please.
[07:17] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, alright im gonna send you a link that will help you recompile everything alrigth??
[07:17] <Erb_> Can you put a windows dll straight into /usr/lib/win32/ or will it cause problems?
[07:17] <Hudson> gyaresu  /dev/sdc1 on /media/External type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[07:18] <ardchoille> jake333: Are you sure that tarball is on your desktop? If it is, try: tar xzf Dar(hit the tab key)
[07:18] <james296> what channel should I go to when I wanna talk about games on Ubuntu
[07:18] <BeepAU> h3h_timo, sounds good
[07:18] <h3h_timo> hey guys, do you think that if you would recompile the alsa drivers for an nvidia sound card with the same settings you would use for a hda-intel sound card it would work??
[07:19] <gyaresu> Hudson: Did you not see this line on that website page: /dev/<your partition>     /media/<mount point>     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[07:19] <LoBo_> hmmm is it possible to install ubuntu on an external harddrive and duel boot from that? or wold ubuntu NEED to be on my main hardrive partition so it can detect both OSs?
[07:19] <Hudson> gyaresu. What file tells the system to mount the usb drive
[07:19] <gyaresu> Hudson: You can probably add 'auto' to the options line: auto,defaults,locale=en_US.utf8
[07:20] <jake333> ardchiolle: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8750/
[07:20] <gyaresu> Hudson: /etc/fstab
[07:20] <Metellus> you can install Ubuntu on an external harddrive; you just might have to make a custom initrd
[07:20] <Hudson> gyaresu I saw the line, but fstab is not the file that mounts that drive. There is no mention of sdc1 in fstab
[07:20] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, this is all i can think of, im not sure if it will work, but its worth a shot, if it does work, let people know by posting the results on the ubuntu forums... if it doesnt work, post your problem in there and someone more qualified will help ya for sure..but here is my suggestion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[07:21] <kingcobr1> bulmer: theres a major problem with my adaptor still
[07:21] <ardchoille> jake333: Ok, looks like you have a folder on your desktop named DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5.4-Linux. If that is the case, go into that folder and try tar xzf DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5.4-Linux.tar.gz
[07:21] <Hudson> gyaresu And i don't know what would happen if my computer tried to mount the same drive twice, Which driver would get used
[07:21] <kingcobr1> bulmer: it wont support any events
[07:22] <globe> is there some command that I can use to cp 50000 files in a directory tree?  I tried cp -rv but it keeps freezing after about 500Mb or so.
[07:22] <BeepAU> h3h_timo, ok, i'll try to follow that
[07:22] <gyaresu> Hudson: Have a look at this page: http://danielnouri.org/blog/linux/persistent-usb-disk-naming-in-ubuntu.html?showcomments=yes
[07:22] <kingcobr1> bulmer: it wont connect to an ap or use essid
[07:22] <k0001> globe try rsync
[07:22] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, ill be up for a little while longer, if you have any questions someone in here will help ya, but good luck
[07:23] <Episcopus> if i install an update in edgy and don't like what it does to my system, is there a way to revert back to before the update was installed?
[07:23] <BeepAU> h3h_timo, thanks
[07:23] <jake333> ardchiolle: nope same error
[07:23] <kingcobr1> gyaresu: can you help me with a network problem please
[07:23] <LoBo_> no one knows about trying to dual boot w/ an external hardrive?
[07:23] <h3h_timo> BeepAU, no problem, i know how bad it sucks to have no sound.. if i could help more i would.. good luck, dont give up if that doesnt work, you will find a solution
[07:23] <globe> k0001: thanks, ill man it :-)
[07:24] <ardchoille> jake333: It could be that you already untarred it and that folder is the result. Is this an app you have to compile?
[07:24] <gyaresu> Hudson: Probably Gnome Disk Mounter is doing something wacky. (I don't use the gui stuff)
[07:24] <gyaresu> kingcobr1: I have tried several times but you keep disappering.
[07:24] <kingcobr1> sorry
[07:25] <gyaresu> kingcobr1: You've got the rausb0 up etc. right?
[07:25] <jake333> ardchiolle: idk it might be should i try
[07:25] <ardchoille> jake333: cd /home/jacob/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5.4-Linux   and see if there is a README or INSTALL file there
[07:25] <kingcobr1> gyaresu: yes but it wont support any events like associating with an essid
[07:26] <kingcobr1> ur help is very much appreciated
[07:26] <gyaresu> kingcobr1: Do you have an access point setup without encrytion (just so we can make sure you can connect to start with)?
[07:26] <jake333> theres and Install
[07:26] <kingcobr1> i wouldnt hav got this far without everybodys help here
[07:26] <jake333> ardchiolle: theres both
[07:26] <ardchoille> jake333: Sounds like it's already untarred, read the README and/or INSTALL files
[07:26] <LoBo_> sigh screw ubuntu then
[07:26] <kingcobr1> yes theres no encryption on the router and its working fine
[07:27] <gyaresu> kingcobr1: No problem, I enjoy it.
[07:27] <gyaresu> !prefix | kingcobr1
[07:27] <ubotu> kingcobr1: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[07:27] <jake333> ardchiolli: im doing what im supposed to and its not working
[07:27] <omeil> !ntfs-3g
[07:27] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:27] <ardchoille> jake333: Gimme a link to that tarball dl, I'll take a look at it.
[07:28] <kingcobr1> gyaresu: i got mocked earlier on for using the prefix :)
[07:28] <jake333> ok
[07:28] <mbdl> hey after upgrading my computer though updates my computer doesnt shut down the ran revs and stays shutting down CAn anyone help
[07:28] <gyaresu> kingcobr1: Good well that's a start. And what are you using to set the essid? Networkmanager?
[07:28] <mbdl> i have an hp pavilion a620n
[07:28] <kingcobr1> gyaresu: trying iwconfig
[07:28] <gyaresu> kingcobr1: They were totally wrong. It's too noisy in here to follow all the lines.
[07:28] <omeil> /bin/sh: can't access tty; Job control turned off. (Ring any bells to anyone)?
[07:29] <h3xagram> !pastebin
[07:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:29] <cwillu> omeil: how did it start up?
[07:29] <kingcobr1> gyaresu: network manager stil says no network connection
[07:29] <cwillu> (sorry, I think I came in halfway through)
[07:29] <ardchoille> jake333: Are you doing ./configure and make and they aren't working?
[07:29] <omeil> at the ubuntu loading screen during start up it stops and spits me to a busybox console and says that crap. i usually just exit and bypass it and load ubuntu.
[07:29] <h3xagram> can someone help me please? i think my java is broken :( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8751/
[07:30] <gyaresu> kingcobr1: output of iwconfig?
[07:30] <kingcobr1> gyaresu: i try 2 use the prefix but wen im in a hurry can 4get
[07:30] <arrenlex> !java | h3xagram
[07:30] <ubotu> h3xagram: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[07:30] <cwillu> omeil: livecd, or installed system?
[07:30] <kingcobr1> gyaresu: but i agree with it
[07:30] <h3xagram> i have sun-java6 installed
[07:30] <h3xagram> already
[07:30] <h3xagram> i use websites that use java just fine :s
[07:30] <mbdl> ccan anyone help me?!?!
[07:31] <kingcobr1> gyaresu: ill paste it here in a min, its awkward 2 do
[07:31] <chalcedony> hi hi :)
[07:31] <h3xagram> i followed the ubuntuguide for java
[07:31] <globe> k0001: thanks again...thats nice
[07:31] <h3xagram> and i still get the error
[07:31] <cwillu> h3xagram: ran into that with limewire
[07:31] <k0001> globe =) u'r welcome =)
[07:31] <gyaresu> kingcobr1: pastebin it you mean?
[07:31] <h3xagram> what was your solution cwillu?
[07:31] <cwillu> h3xagram: I kinda just kludged it though,
[07:31] <jake333> ardchiolle: go to apple.com
[07:31] <cwillu> h3xagram: what does `which java` say?
[07:32] <h3xagram> /usr/bin/java
[07:32] <arrenlex> cwillu: Why are you putting backticks on a command? xD
[07:32] <cwillu> h3xagram: and where's that pointed to?
[07:32] <cwillu> oops
[07:32] <karmax> Hi ppl! How can I configure PCtel HSP 56k modem?
[07:32] <cwillu> my bad :p
[07:32] <jake333> ardchiolle: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/streamingserver/
[07:32] <h3xagram> wheres what pointed to?
[07:32] <cwillu> arrenlex: cause I'm usually doing ln -s `which this` `which that` :p
[07:32] <cwillu> h3xagram: ls -l `which java`
[07:32] <cwillu> like that :p
[07:33] <chalcedony> i clicked on gaim and ended up clicking yes to software upgrades.. which .. this is a very bad night to do this. it says 127 packages and i thought my computer was sick/ now it says it's 'preparing packages' .. is there anything i can do to get this over with?
[07:33] <mbdl> ok... fine ill come back later
[07:33] <h3xagram> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2007-03-03 17:46 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
[07:33] <gyaresu> cwillu: h3xagram 'ls -l /usr/bin/java ;ls -l /etc/alternatives/java'
[07:34] <ardchoille> jake333: I have to have a apple ID and password in order to download
[07:34] <Episcopus> mbdl: it helps to say what you need help with so that people with knowledge in your problem area can respond
[07:34] <omeil> cwillu: installed system
[07:34] <h3xagram> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2007-03-03 17:46 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
[07:34] <h3xagram> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 2007-03-04 04:52 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[07:34] <chalcedony> i thought i really needed to reboot and shut everything down. i have to leave to be somewhere and need to work first
[07:34] <cwillu> h3xagram: probably just need to update-alternatives, setting it to use sun's instead of gcj
[07:34] <ardchoille> jake333: What steps are you taking after going into the folder?
[07:34] <jake333> ardchoille: just make one it takes 2 seconds
[07:34] <rbil> Hudson, when u installed that fuse driver for ntfs, did it create /etc/udev/rules.d/99-fuse.rules  ?
[07:34] <bulmer> h3xagram: you have run update-alternatives right?
[07:34] <jake333> ./Install
[07:35] <h3xagram> no?
[07:35] <omeil> oh hi h3x lol :D
[07:35] <bulmer> then you must and select the correct java
[07:35] <h3xagram> oh wait
[07:35] <Hudson> rbil fuse?
[07:35] <h3xagram> yeah i did that already
[07:35] <gyaresu> k31th: cwillu or better: 'dpkg --get-selections | grep -i java'
[07:35] <h3xagram> i sudo apt-get install sun-java6
[07:35] <ardchoille> jake333: Are you sure it isn't ./install ? Linux is case-sensitive.
[07:35] <rbil> Hudson, you were talking about writing to ntfs, no?
[07:35] <bulmer> h3xagram: you have run update-alternatives right?
[07:35] <h3xagram> right
[07:35] <ardchoille> jake333: Are you sure it isn't ./install ? Linux is case-sensitive.
[07:35] <Hudson> rbil yeah I was
[07:36] <bulmer> h3xagram: what was your command to do such?
[07:36] <jake333> its Install
[07:36] <omeil> cwillu: it started up because i just typed exit to continue the boot process :)
[07:36] <rbil> Hudson, and this is an external hotpluggable drive, no?
[07:36] <Hudson> rbil I'm trying to get my computer to auto mount an external drive using NTFS3g instead of the standard NTFS driver
[07:36] <cwillu> omeil: it's not set to come up in single user mode is it?
[07:36] <ardchoille> jake333: And what is that getting you? Another error about permission denied possibly?
[07:36] <rbil> Hudson, that's what I thought you were trying to do
[07:36] <Hudson> rbil yeah it is
[07:36] <chalcedony> 'preparing packages.. Installing software .. Please wait, this can take some time.
[07:36] <omeil> cwillu: that i don't understand. i just get that weird text at the start
[07:37] <chalcedony> i don't have time.
[07:37] <rbil> Hudson, I don't use that driver, as I don't use ntfs, but from what I've read, it should setup a udev rule
[07:37] <ardchoille> jake333: Sounds like you might need admin privs. Try: sudo ./Install
[07:37] <kingcobr1> gyaresu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8752/ yes i meant pastebin
[07:37] <Hudson> rbil I just am apprehensive about using fstab to make another mount point because I don't know what if any conflicts would arise from trying to mount the same drive two times with different drivers
[07:37] <rbil> Hudson, does this file exist on your system? /etc/udev/rules.d/99-fuse.rules
[07:37] <cwillu> omeil: can you paste bin me /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[07:37] <omeil> h3xagram: u listen to sirius?
[07:37] <h3xagram> whats that?
[07:37] <omeil> cwillu ok
[07:37] <rbil> Hudson, you don't use fstab, u use a udev rule
[07:37] <omeil> h3xagram: nvm u have exactly the same urname as a friend of mine :D
[07:38] <rbil> Hudson, hotplug devices like USB drives are controlled by udev, not fstab
[07:38] <h3xagram> bulmer: no i didnt run that command
[07:38] <h3xagram> i mistook that for another command
[07:38] <jake333> ardchoille:    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8753/
[07:38] <h3xagram> i thought you were referring to apt-get update
[07:38] <Hudson> rbil I figured there was another file that dealt with them, since there was not entry for the drive in my current fstab
[07:38] <bulmer> nope
[07:38] <omeil> !paste
[07:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:39] <h3xagram> bulmer, what trigger would i need to use?
[07:39] <Hudson> rbil also, when i tried to open that 99-fuse.rules with kate its an empty file, so no. I don't have that file
[07:39] <bulmer> java
[07:39] <ardchoille> jake333: It's installed :)
[07:39] <h3xagram> it results in unknown argument
[07:39] <jake333> wahts?
[07:39] <omeil> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8754/
[07:39] <cwillu> thx
[07:39] <ardchoille> jake333: Look at line 104 in that last paste
[07:39] <kingcobr1> gyaresu: part of the reason i disappeared was the router here keeps resetting and the irc chat stops updating whenever the comp goes offline
[07:39] <rbil> Hudson, then maybe under another name, please look in /etc/udev/rules.d/
[07:39] <bulmer> i cant recall,  man update-alternatives
[07:40] <chalcedony> *how* long do updates take?
[07:40] <h3xagram> bulmer, what is it im trying to do with update-alternatives
[07:40] <h3xagram> install? remove?
[07:40] <bulmer> h3xagram: to set java
[07:40] <cwillu> break=bottom in a grub menu.lst file, does that do what I think it does?
[07:40] <jake333> i know that
[07:40] <Hudson> rbil would FUSE be in the name, what am I looking for? there are about 20 files in this dir
[07:40] <jake333> but i cant run it
[07:40] <h3xagram> ok so i would do --set
[07:40] <bulmer> h3xagram: there are multiple versions of java within, so you select
[07:40] <h3xagram> what would be the name and path
[07:40] <h3xagram> java and /usr/bin
[07:40] <h3xagram> ?
[07:40] <cwillu> omeil: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:40] <jake333> ardchoille: i cant run ther server
[07:41] <ardchoille> jake333: From here, you really should consult the docs for that server as I know nothing about it.
[07:41] <bulmer> man upgrade-alternatives... i dont remember the details
[07:41] <cwillu> omeil: look for the line "# defoptions=quiet splash break=bottom"
[07:41] <ToddEDM> gyaresu: .. you around????????????
[07:41] <ardchoille> jake333: Looks to me like it's installed, now you need to learn how to use it.
[07:41] <cwillu> omeil: and remove the break=bottom bit (leave the #, and the rest of the line alone)
[07:41] <chalcedony> ((((( ardchoille ))))))
[07:41] <cwillu> omeil: then sudo update-grub
[07:41] <jake333> i know it like that back of my hand
[07:41] <ardchoille> chalcedony: Hi :)
[07:41] <cwillu> omeil: that should fix it
[07:41] <rbil> Hudson, I'm not sure what it'll be called or whether that package even installes a udev rules file? If you look at properties of the package you installed in Synaptic it'll tell you want and where all it's files are stored. Maybe that will give u a hint as to what udev rule it installs if any
[07:41] <ardchoille> :)
[07:41] <ToddEDM> anyways.... i got my video card installed!!!! woooooooo
[07:41] <jake333> ardchoille: i know how to
[07:41] <omeil> cwillu: i used break=bottom so i can edit the xorg.conf
[07:41] <chalcedony> good for you ToddEDM :)
[07:42] <gyaresu> kingcobr1: Hey. So did you follow that guide from !wifi on the rt73? Did you blacklist the drivers and install the latest raling driver etc?
[07:42] <omeil> cwillu: mustif added it permanently
[07:42] <ToddEDM> i can actually lok at this screen scrolling without getting a headache
[07:42] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: Yes.
[07:42] <ToddEDM> look
[07:42] <cwillu> omeil: ya, that defoptions line will re-add it to every kernel permantently
[07:42] <Dakana> Does anyone know how I would go about rolling back some updates so I can get ATI drivers working again on my Radeon 8500 card? I'm forcing VESA drivers right now in xorg.conf
[07:43] <globe> exit
[07:43] <cwillu> Dakana: in synaptic?
[07:43] <Dakana> I chose all of the updates after installing 6.10, and afterwards my screen was blank upon loading X
[07:43] <kingcobr1> gyaresu: i did evrything on the list but there were problems
[07:43] <ToddEDM> gyaresu:  , if you help anyone with getting thier nvidia drivers working, get them to instal 'Envy'
[07:43] <Dakana> cwillu: in anything
[07:43] <h3xagram> bulmer: where am i pointing it to
[07:43] <h3xagram> i read the manual
[07:43] <h3xagram> i know what triggers to use
[07:43] <omeil> cwillu: im going for a test run :) see what appens
[07:43] <h3xagram> but what is the location path?
[07:43] <cwillu> Dakana: synaptic lets you force a particular version of a package, if its still in the repositories
[07:43] <gyaresu> kingcobr1: Problems? specifically?
[07:43] <bulmer> h3xagram: man upgrade-alternatives... i dont remember the details
[07:43] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: Envy? Got a link?
[07:44] <ToddEDM> hold on
[07:44] <h3xagram> i already did that
[07:44] <bulmer> h3xagram: maybe set?
[07:44] <gyaresu> !envy
[07:44] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[07:44] <Dakana> cwillu: do you know offhand if I'll need to roll back versions of x in order to use older ATI drivers?
[07:44] <h3xagram> im not talking about trigger
[07:44] <cwillu> h3xagram: I _think_ something might be bunged up in update-alternatives for java, as update-alternatives didn't fix it for me
[07:44] <h3xagram> and it is --set (name) (path)
[07:44] <h3xagram> but what would the path be?
[07:44] <Hudson> rbil is ntfs3g even the package I want?
[07:44] <bulmer> what does  upgrade-alternatives --list java say?
[07:44] <billy> greetings earthlings.
[07:44] <cwillu> Dakana: the proprietary drivers?  look for fglrx
[07:44] <ardchoille> billy: :)
[07:44] <rbil> Hudson, yes
[07:45] <ToddEDM> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html - ENVY
[07:45] <cwillu> Dakana: are you sure its the driver though?  did you just update to 6.10 and it broke?
[07:45] <h3xagram> bulmer:
[07:45] <h3xagram> /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[07:45] <h3xagram> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[07:45] <h3xagram> /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[07:45] <ubm> billy please take us back to your home planet :)
[07:45] <ToddEDM> it automatically installs the driver
[07:45] <Hudson> rbil I found a file called 45-fuse.rules
[07:45] <Xenguy> o/~ Bring me rocks, bring me stones, so I can study them... o/~
[07:45] <vbarter> hello, anybody can help me? I have got en X window Error when booting from live CD, I got an error: no Device has been matched
[07:45] <bulmer> h3xagram: try --config maybe?
[07:45] <Hudson> rbil but all thats in it is one line KERNEL=="fuse", GROUP="fuse"
[07:45] <billy> ubm, open terminal.  type goto billy_heaven.  tell me if error appears.
[07:45] <kingcobr1> gyaresu: Installing the todos and fromdos utilities didnt work
[07:45] <rbil> Hudson, ok, that's probably what's controlling mounting that ntfs drive
[07:45] <Dakana> cwillu: No - I recently reformated and did a fresh install of 6.10 (I'm a new user; was using Windows), then updated through the update manager - I just selected all of them, and then it broke.
[07:45] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: got it. There's a factoid !envy. Thanks for that. Good info.
[07:46] <Dakana> cwillu: so then I changed "ati" in xorg.conf to "vesa" so I could use X at all
[07:46] <rbil> Hudson, hmmm, well you'll have to study up on udev rules. I'm sure there's a way to write the rule to mount that drive using that driver
[07:46] <cwillu> Dakana: blank screen, or does it crap out and give you a warning message?
[07:46] <Dakana> cwillu: blank screen
[07:46] <h3xagram> ok i figured it out me self
[07:46] <ubm> billy ./billy_heaven.sh :)
[07:46] <bulmer> h3xagram: yeah its  --config java
[07:46] <cwillu> Dakana: composite _might_ be to blame
[07:46] <h3xagram> thanks
[07:46] <ardchoille> gyaresu: lol
[07:46] <cwillu> one sec
[07:46] <jake333> ardchoille: this happened in windows the 2167
[07:47] <rbil> Hudson, maybe try googling for fuse+ntfs ?
[07:47] <rbil> Hudson, rather fuse+udev
[07:47] <cwillu> Dakana: try putting this at the bottom of /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
[07:47] <ardchoille> jake333: What is 2167
[07:47] <kingcobr1> gyaresu: 1 min
[07:47] <jake333> archoille: i had needed to install perl before i installed in windows
[07:47] <cwillu> Section "Extensions"
[07:47] <gyaresu> kingcobr1: no problem.
[07:47] <ToddEDM> yes!!! , im glad i could be of help, but actually a guy in damnsmalllinux channel gave me the link
[07:47] <cwillu> Option "Composite" "0"
[07:47] <jake333> ardchoille: the line in message
[07:47] <cwillu> EndSection
[07:47] <Dakana> cwillu: I hadn't tried that yet - I'll see if that helps
[07:47] <dhorn> Hey all, I'm hoping someone here has successfully compiled and installed kxdocker in gnome.  Any help is appreciated!
[07:47] <cwillu> set it back to ati as well, obviously :p
[07:47] <Dakana> hehe, yeah
[07:48] <Hudson> ty rbil I'm going to keep looking
[07:48] <ubm> ardchoille the man with almost all the answers :)
[07:48] <omeil> cwillu: nice stuff it woiked :D
[07:48] <jake333> lol
[07:48] <ardchoille> jake333: I'm confused now, there were only 105 lines in that last paste
[07:48] <cwillu> omeil: yippee :)
[07:48] <jake333> oh new paste lol
[07:48] <Episcopus> is there a way to undo system updates, like system restore in windows
[07:48] <jake333> jacob@jacob-desktop:~$ Couldn't find the en language messages file! at /usr/local/sbin/streamingadminserver.pl line 2167.
[07:48] <jake333> thats when i run
[07:48] <omeil> cwillu: hmm this means ubuntu is running with no flaws atm
[07:48] <kingcobr1> gyaresu: couldnt find package tofrodos
[07:48] <cwillu> weird :p
[07:48] <jake333> sry dont pastbien me
[07:48] <omeil> cwillu: well for me :)
[07:48] <gyaresu> rbil: Hudson Seriously just a line in the fstab will do the job. Persistent nameing (like I linked to) will take care of DEV names.
[07:49] <omeil> cwillu: have u installed WoW on your machine?
[07:49] <gyaresu> kingcobr1: I remember this from lunch... You don't have all the repos enabled.
[07:49] <ardchoille> jake333: I have no idea what a en language messages file is
[07:49] <gyaresu> !repos > kingcobr1
[07:49] <cwillu> omeil: I had it ya;  haven't played in a couple months though
[07:49] <jake333> ill go look
[07:49] <bulmer> en is spanish
[07:49] <bulmer> err english
[07:49] <dhorn> Does anyone here have experience with kxdocker and gnome?
[07:49] <omeil> cwillu: what did u use to install it on ubuntu?
[07:49] <cwillu> Episcopus:  not really
[07:49] <cwillu> crossover
[07:50] <cwillu> 6.0
[07:50] <bulmer> am confused..