[11:22] <RajeevK> I have a folder for image and inside there are so many images...all are showing in lock condition...how to remove lock ?
[11:22] <hellrazor> cfhowlett, jeah ok then in grub2
[11:23] <RajeevK> I know chmod, but it's for one file....and I want to do it for all file inside the image folder
[11:23] <cfhowlett> RajeevK, image?  like photographs?
[11:23] <jrib> RajeevK: what is the output of « ls -l /path/to/image »?
[11:23] <Gilligan94> anyone know if bumblebee/nvidia drivers are working with the current kernel? mine dont work
[11:23] <Ephexeve_laptop> hey guys, is apt-fast for ubuntu only?
[11:23] <RajeevK> jrib: Let me get that
[11:23] <jrib> RajeevK: chmod can operate on multiple files.  For example, « chmod PERM FILE1 FILE2 ... » (use a glob to list the files)
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> !find apt-fast | Ephexeve_laptop
[11:24] <RajeevK> jrib: Its -rw-rw-r-- for all file in there
[11:24] <jrib> RajeevK: please give full output
[11:25] <RajeevK> jrib: -rw-rw-r-- 1 www-data www-data   9563 Jun 25 16:31 Zoya-Factor.jpg
[11:25] <puri> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798217/plain/
[11:25] <Ephexeve_laptop> ubottu: what?
[11:25] <RajeevK> jrib: This is how coming for all file
[11:25] <Ephexeve_laptop> Ah I see
[11:25] <RajeevK> cfhowlett: Yes photograph
[11:25] <jrib> RajeevK: and do you need www-data to be able to write to these files?
[11:25] <hellrazor> whoever wrote the grub configuration in ubuntu should be damned to hell for this xml looks....
[11:25] <RajeevK> jrib: Yes
[11:26] <ss_haze> nobod helps me at lubuntu irc, so question here, how to fix LXDE system tray expanding
[11:26] <RajeevK> jrib: It's being copied from some other source when I run the program
[11:26] <jrib> RajeevK: and you also need another user to be able to write?  Are you sure www-data needs to *write* to the files and not just read them?
[11:26] <puri> can anybody help configure my usb data card " http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798217/plain/ " ??
[11:26] <ss_haze> really, nobody on internet knows why lxde is so buggy
[11:26] <RajeevK> jrib: Yes...I want open permission for this folder
[11:26] <ss_haze> and how to fix the panel?
[11:26] <jrib> RajeevK: I asked you two questions, answering, "yes" is confusing
[11:27] <aladdin> anyone uses spotify?
[11:27] <ss_haze> no, what is spotifyt
[11:27] <RajeevK> jrib: I am creating product from feed & it's copying from some other source and putting in this folder
[11:27] <aladdin> ss_haze: music streaming app
[11:28] <puri> music app
[11:28] <puri> yeah
[11:28] <RajeevK> jrib: Now when I am trying to view the product from browser, nothing comes. I checked the permission and it was like that
[11:28] <jrib> RajeevK: what username needs to be able to write to the images?
[11:28] <ss_haze> now help and tell me why lxde system tray keeps expanding after login, starting new things in system tray
[11:28] <ss_haze> and etc
[11:28] <aladdin> if you do, how to install it, followed the instructions on the site, but ...
[11:29] <RajeevK> jrib: it's being done by Drupal UI...so I can't exactly say the username
[11:29] <hellrazor> this is like hell
[11:29] <jrib> RajeevK: so what is the issue with the files...?
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> ss_haze  try #lubuntu
[11:29] <jrib> RajeevK: drupal likely runs as www-data and www-data can write to the thifels
[11:30] <RajeevK> jrib: Its not being displayed at the browser
[11:30] <ss_haze> MonkeyDust I am there for like 15 mins
[11:30] <ss_haze> and nobody is writing anything
[11:30] <jrib> RajeevK: you're being too vague.  Can you say exactly what it is that you want to do, how you are trying to do it, and what is happening instead?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> ss_haze, ask forum.lxde.org
[11:30] <ss_haze> google doesn't display any fixes of the bug
[11:31] <ss_haze> how can ubuntu sytes give lubuntu as alternative if you get crucial bugs like that
[11:31] <ss_haze> on LTS
[11:31] <RajeevK> jrib: Ok. I have configured product import system in drupal by excel sheet. Where I give path of the image & the program copy that image from that path and paste in this folder
[11:31] <cfhowlett> ss_haze, may or may not be a bug.  may or may not be an ubuntu issue.
[11:32] <RajeevK> jrib: I have given open permission to the folder where it's pasting.  But the images which it's pasting is not being displayed in browser
[11:32] <dylancl> So, guys, I read a lot of tutorials about how to boot from a USB disk, but my laptop won't find the USB when pressing F9 to select where it should boot from
[11:32] <dylancl> Any help?
[11:32] <RajeevK> jrib: I checked the image file permission and it show locked
[11:32] <cfhowlett> dylancl, do you get the bios menu ?
[11:32] <jrib> RajeevK: what do you mean by "given open permission to the folder where it's pasting"?  I don't know what that means.
[11:33] <dylancl> No, I was in the Boot Device Options
[11:33] <dylancl> But I can go to BIOS setup
[11:33] <RajeevK> jrib: I have folder inside drupal instance for these images, which I have set READ & WRITE to everyone
[11:33] <cfhowlett> dylancl, I'd suggest you do the bios setup option. you'll need to reset it to HDD boot after installation though
[11:33] <jrib> RajeevK: ok.  Show the ls -ld output for the directory in question
[11:34] <dylancl> cfhowlett: any tutorials on that? ::P
[11:34] <RajeevK> jrib: drwxrwxrwx 2 rajeev rajeev 61440 Jun 25 16:31 bookImage
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> ss_haze  try installing ubuntu and then lxde as etra desktop -- if you did that, try installing the lubuntu.iso
[11:34] <dylancl> Should I enable Floppy boot and Internal Network Adapter boot?
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> extra*
[11:35] <jrib> RajeevK: "But the images which it's pasting is not being displayed in browser".  What does this mean?  What is pasting where?  What browser are you talking about?  Web browser or file browser?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> dylancl, somewhere but the menu is pretty intuitive.  make your bios changes to prioritize usb boot.  save and reboot.  after install, go back to bios and prioritize HDD boot.  save and reboot
[11:35] <RajeevK> jrib: Web browser
[11:35] <ss_haze> installing whole OS because of one lxde desktop
[11:35] <dylancl> Yeah, I think I found it. Boot type Order, and then I an select USB Floppy
[11:35] <ss_haze> seriously, best fix?
[11:35] <jrib> RajeevK: and the rest of my questions?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> dylancl, last time, I turned off every boot option except usb
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> ss_haze  other solutions do not seem to work
[11:36] <RajeevK> jrib: My program can copy a image from any web url or any local path and paste in this folder "bookImage"
[11:36] <dylancl> oh god
[11:36] <dylancl> so I launched from the usb
[11:37] <dylancl> and now it gives me something with the menu
[11:37] <cfhowlett> dylancl, "it" being ?
[11:37] <cfhowlett> !details|dylancl, "something" ....
[11:37] <dylancl> GRUB4DOS 0.4.4 2009-06-20, Memory:628 / 2933M, MenuEnd:0x48C84
[11:38] <jrib> RajeevK: "is not being displayed in browser".  What does this mean?  How are you trying to access or display them?  Are you just opening the bookImage directory locally in the browser?  Or are you going through your webserver?  Through drupal?  What exactly do you do to display them, what exactly do you expect, and what exactly is happening instead?
[11:38] <dylancl> I launched from the USB, and it took me straight to a screen with 4 commands. find/menu.lst, /boot/grub/menu.lst, /grub/menu.lst, commandline, reboot and halt
[11:39] <dylancl> Did I do something wrong? Because I used the tutorial to put my iso on my usb that somebody gave me
[11:39] <cfhowlett> dylancl, don't know how you made this boot USB.  I've used the ubuntu startup-disk-creator tool.  Pretty sure grub4dos ain't there but ... you either had a bad ISO to start with or a flaky usb.  "put" the iso on usb?  How did you do that?
[11:39] <ss_haze> it's just so sad
[11:39] <ss_haze> that lubuntu is so s***
[11:39] <dylancl> Linux Live Usb Creator
[11:39] <ss_haze> how can you actually use something with no system tray
[11:39] <jrib> ss_haze: stop please.  Feel free to ask your support question every 5-10 minutes depending on traffic, but there's no need for the other chit chat
[11:39] <cfhowlett> ss_haze, please vent in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[11:40] <RajeevK> jrib: I am creating product in drupal by importing CSV. Where other fields I fill for DB & image I copy from some location given in the CSV. System create product with my data and copy image from my given path and paste in the folder which I am talking about. So all product are created but when I am going to product page, image is not being displayed but all fields are coming
[11:40] <cfhowlett> dylancl, ok.  let's problem solve.  Did you md5sum the ISO before you burned it to usb?
[11:41] <dylancl> md5sum? Please, don't use diffucult words that only you guys understand
[11:41] <jrib> RajeevK: so displaying the image in your browser is something being done by drupal?
[11:41] <RajeevK> jrib: Yes
[11:41] <jrib> RajeevK: does drupal set the right path to the images?  (check one example)
[11:42] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|dylancl, is a quality/integrity tool to verify that you downloaded what you were supposed to download.  For that matter DOWNLOADING the iso frequently fails, thus the recommended tool is torrent.
[11:44] <ss_haze> why the hell lubuntu even exists if nobody talks on lubuntu irc channel
[11:44] <jrib> ss_haze: didn't we ask you to stick to support?
[11:44] <JRicketts_> Anyone have a nice guide for song up a static IP through a router. I can access my server in network but from outside I get a bad gateway 502 error. I have looked everywhere.
[11:44] <JRicketts_> For setting up
[11:44] <ss_haze> what support
[11:45] <cfhowlett> !ot|ss_haze,
[11:45] <luaa> how do I compile cups from sources?
[11:45] <Vec_> Hey, i am trying to install unbuntu server 12.04 on my server which does not have a monitor, i have a keyboard however. How can i successfully install ubuntuserver on this machine? Some sort of configurable ISO that would do a 100% automatic installation would be nice. I imagine installing then logging on with webmin or whatever to start configuring it.
[11:45] <sw> !source | luaa
[11:45] <jrib> ss_haze: if no one right now knows the answer to your question, we can't help.  Try other support venues or just wait and try again later.  Ranting here only makes it harder to help people
[11:45] <DJones> !webmin | Vec_
[11:45] <cfhowlett> ss_haze, few people talking means 1 of 2 things: few people using it (false) or few problems with it (likely)
[11:45] <jrib> luaa: why do you want to?
[11:45] <dylancl> great. The tutorial for windows appearently fails for my windows
[11:45] <ss_haze> that is ubuntu related question, I can't see so big community, having problems fixing one damn panel bug
[11:45] <luaa> ubottu: I did
[11:46] <cfhowlett> dylancl, you still with us?
[11:46] <luaa> jrib: I am using an old linux distribition
[11:46] <dylancl> cfhowlett: it returns that the system can't find the file or something. don't know how to translate it from dutch :/
[11:46] <luaa> jrib: cups isnt working on this system
[11:46] <dylancl> System can't find the given (something)
[11:46] <jrib> ss_haze: like I said: if no one knows the answer to your question, ranting will not magically grant us knowledge.    So please stop.  Try the other support venues or wait patiently for new traffic and ask (your actual support question) later
[11:46] <cfhowlett> dylancl, that ... should not happen
[11:47] <jrib> luaa: what linux distribution?
[11:47] <DJones> Vec_: Its not something I've ever needed, but this may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole
[11:47] <luaa> ubuntu 10.04
[11:47] <jrib> luaa: on the desktop?
[11:47] <luaa> server
[11:47] <jrib> luaa: how isn't cups working exactly?
[11:47] <jrib> !support | ss_haze
[11:47] <cfhowlett> dylancl, ok, forget the md5sum check for now.  make a boot usb with a different stick.  they do get funky fairly often.
[11:47] <Vec_> DJones: Im currently looking at the link, thanks.
[11:48] <dylancl> using the same tool?
[11:48] <DJones> Vec_: I picked that up from http://askubuntu.com/questions/13106/how-can-i-install-ubuntu-on-a-headless-machine
[11:48] <cfhowlett> ss_haze, support options include the forums.  You should look/post there as well.
[11:48] <luaa> its an old version of cups my postscript doesnt work in 1.4.3 but works in 1.5.6
[11:48] <cfhowlett> dylancl, I'd suggest unetbootin or startup-disk-creator
[11:48] <ss_haze> I googled this problem, right now, no answers from anything
[11:48] <luaa> @ jrib
[11:49] <DJones> Vec_: It might also be worth joining #ubuntu-server and asking the question in there, they may point you at the same documents, but could have another method
[11:49] <ActionPa1snip> luaa: considered an upgrade to Precise?
[11:50] <Vec_> ok
[11:50] <luaa> ActionPa1snip: I want to compile cups 1.5.4 from source
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> ss_haze  repeat your initial question every 10-15 minutes and wait until someone enters who can help you
[11:50] <luaa> apt get installs 1.4.3
[11:50] <Vec_> Djones: well this seems up my ally, considering it seems like i only need to configurate a .iso image to do work, then i can logon through SSH and get hands on
[11:51] <ActionPa1snip> luaa: no PPA for it?
[11:51] <ss_haze> only solution removing system try
[11:51] <DJones> Vec_: Good luck then, have fun
[11:51] <jrib> !info cups precise
[11:51] <ss_haze> but is there alternative system tray for lxde
[11:51] <ss_haze> don't know
[11:51] <Vec_> DJones: thanks
[11:52] <jrib> luaa: as ActionPa1snip suggested, upgrading to precise is probably the easiest thing for you to do
[11:52] <ss_haze> I am waiting half an hour in lubuntu irc
[11:52] <cfhowlett> jrib, tyvm
[11:52] <caleb_> Any idea how I could be chatting on IRC and surfing the web without being able to ping anything successfully?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> caleb_, no idea but I'll certainly watch this thread!
[11:54] <luaa> jrib: upgrading to precise? what is that
[11:54] <jrib> luaa: precise is 12.04 (the next LTS version after 10.04)
[11:55] <luaa> ow I get
[11:55] <jrib> luaa: it comes with cups 1.5.3
[11:55] <jrib> !upgrade | luaa
[11:56] <jrib> luaa: on 10.04, you should be able to just make sure /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades allows for lts upgrades, then run "sudo do-release-upgrade".  Then your system will upgrade to 12.04.  Make sure you have backups of course in the unlikely event a meteor destroys the earth, etc.
[11:57] <dylancl> cfhowlett: sorry, I'm back
[11:58] <dylancl> so
[11:58] <dylancl> Just put the iso on a new stick using unetbootin?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> dylancl, or startup-disk-creator
[11:58] <dylancl> What do/did you use?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> dylancl, startup-disk-creator has always done it for me
[11:59] <dylancl> I'l download that then
[11:59] <cfhowlett> dylancl, it's part of ubuntu.  unetbootin will also run in windows
[11:59] <ezra-s> startup-disk-creator has always failed for me :(
[12:00] <dylancl> oh
[12:01] <dylancl> umm cfhowlett I think the sourcefourge page of unetbootin is down...
[12:01] <random_> hi all, Running into some problems trying to install fglrx-updates.  i get http://pastebin.com/g934JqD2 , Anyone able to help me out.
[12:02] <disPlay> dylancl here the unetbootin sourceforge page is up
[12:03] <dylancl> Not for me...
[12:03] <dylancl> Can you link the page you're on?
[12:04] <cfhowlett> dylancl, I can't comment.  EVERYTHING is weird on Chinese internet ...
[12:05] <armin> hm, seems like there indeed is a bug with NetworkManager in ubuntu 13.04 when using PEAP and wpa2 enterprise as system-ca-certs in the system-connections file is being set to true, leading to NetworkManager being unable to connect.
[12:05] <dylancl> guess I'll go back to the program I previously in staled
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:06] <gordonjcp> dylancl: what are you trying to do?
[12:06] <gordonjcp> BluesKaj: hello
[12:06] <ezra-s> armin, not only that, vpnc also fails with default config also fails
[12:06] <dylancl> umm
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hi gordonjcp
[12:06] <dylancl> trying to put an iso on an usb
[12:06] <ezra-s> armin, the bug was reported as soon as 13.04 was released, and still fails, it also fails the same way in LTS
[12:06] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, usb creation
[12:07] <armin> ezra-s: sounds bad
[12:07] <ezra-s> armin, you bet, resort to wpa-supplicant and manual configuration, network manager is not to be trusted
[12:07] <dylancl> I'm going to use LiLi usb creator
[12:08] <cfhowlett> dylancl, never heard of it.  good luck
[12:08] <gordonjcp> dylancl: why OS are you using?
[12:08] <armin> ezra-s: oh i already wrote a wrapper bash script around wpa-supplicant as well
[12:08] <armin> ezra-s: networking under linux is a mess with NM, wicd and the like.
[12:08] <dylancl> gordonjcp: Windows, but on my other laptop (isn't working) running ubuntu
[12:08] <dylancl> cfhowlett: it's the one listed in the ubuntu help wiki page thingy
[12:09] <cfhowlett> dylancl, good enough.  run with it.
[12:09] <ezra-s> armin, nice, I had to do something like that, got me by surprise when I had to connect to work from home after the upgrade... not nice
[12:09] <dylancl> oh cfhowlett
[12:09] <gordonjcp> dylancl: oh, well go with whatever is on the Ubuntu wiki then ;-)  Sorry, can't help with Windows
[12:09] <dylancl> the program automaticly does a md5 check
[12:09] <cfhowlett> dylancl, sweeeeeeeeeeeeet
[12:09] <dylancl> it does a bunch actually
[12:09] <ezra-s> armin, I don't know what they did, 12.10 worked perfectly
[12:09] <armin> ezra-s: at those points i really considering going into a fucking store and buying a macbook.
[12:10] <cfhowlett> !language|armin,   please
[12:10] <armin> ezra-s: yes, no issues here with 12.10 at all. and i'm speaking about a lot of machines.
[12:10] <ezra-s> armin, lol, pretty expensive workaround don't you think? ;)
[12:10] <opti> what does one have to do to make grub2 pick up freebsd and add it to the boot menu with everything else?
[12:11] <armin> ezra-s: sure, but i could afford it and need a machine that just works. considering those .DS_Store nightmares and imagining my life in a golden cage still keeps me from doing it.
[12:11] <ezra-s> armin, for office work sometimes is best to stick to a more stable distro, since LTS does fail in this too, maybe go back to debian
[12:11] <cfhowlett> opti, good question for freebsd forums ...
[12:11] <dylancl> autoreport, md5, recognition, cleaning, full cleaning, copy, moving_renaming, hiding, keyboard_detection, boot_text, persistence, bootector, vbox cleaning, autorun, feedback for beta, finalhelp, netbook warning, force 3rdparty format, fore iso mode, graphical safe mode
[12:11] <dylancl> Should I disable any of those?
[12:11] <opti> considering i'm running update-grub from ubuntu, i fail to see how
[12:11] <cfhowlett> dylancl, I'd say ... no
[12:11] <armin> ezra-s: yes 2 of my co-workers use debian testing on their desktops, and one even uses debian stable.
[12:11] <dylancl> Alright. It's creating a Live USB
[12:12] <ezra-s> armin, don't give up on Linux, it just a matter of finding the distro that works for you and stay with it, upgrading to non LTS/stable releases bring this...
[12:12] <dylancl> Also
[12:12] <dylancl> On my laptop with ubuntu, I did boot in the command thing
[12:12] <dylancl> and it said: Error 8: Kernel must be loaded before booting
[12:13] <ikonia> dylancl: that's grub - you've not booted
[12:13] <ezra-s> armin, you never run short of options when using Linux really
[12:13] <armin> ezra-s: i mean seriously, i've tried a lot. i've done the systemd migration on arch linux, some f*ck*p*s on ubuntu, the gnome3 mess with fedora, tried to find my way through cinnamon and mate with mint, ran into several bugs with unity/kde/xfce and still suffer from tearing with non-opengl-desktops in general. i'm sick of working ON my system rather than working WITH it.
[12:14] <ezra-s> armin, I recommend openbox or anything that  does not need compositing
[12:15] <armin> ezra-s: i've been a die-hard fluxbox user for years as well and am even hacking on i3 occasionally.
[12:15] <ezra-s> armin, I'm with kde now in 13.04, all effects disabled, quite liking it for the first time...
[12:15] <armin> ezra-s: i just use kde here right now on an arch linux box and it mostly does the job for me, but kde has flickering and weird side-effects-bugs on my work-notebook (dell latitude e6230)
[12:16] <armin> ezra-s: the latter one using ubuntu 13.04
[12:16] <armin> ezra-s: it just seems impossible to use a unique way on all distributions.
[12:16] <armin> ezra-s: you just seek for the way that has the smallest amount of pain and try to get around with that.
[12:16] <armin> ezra-s: and really, it annoys me pretty much.
[12:17] <armin> ezra-s: and i usually configure my environments to the bone.
[12:18] <ezra-s> armin, have you tried disabling desktop effects in configuration?
[12:18] <ss_haze> I don't know what should I do with lubuntu irc chat, where nobody answers anything
[12:18] <Quix86> what's the easiest way to sync files locally, i.e., copy doccuments in a folder to an external drive every time the drive is attached, and/or when files are modified?
[12:18] <caz1121> Please help.... Since an overnight update from 12.04 to 12.10 i am stuck at the command prompt with no screens found error, i am a ubuntu virgin before yesterday, love it but i am pulling my har out.. again very NOOB, but assume it is driver related as the screen is able to show the command line
[12:18] <Quix86> caz1121 have you tried 'startx'?
[12:18] <ikonia> caz1121: why did you install 12.04 and update if this is your first day
[12:18] <ikonia> caz1121: why not just install the version you want to use
[12:19] <cfhowlett> caz1121, 12.04 is supported for 5 years.  12.10 is ... NOT, but you just HAD to upgrade?
[12:19] <ikonia> caz1121: as this is only a 1 day old install, simpley download the version you want and install it cleanly
[12:19] <armin> ezra-s: i've really been playing around with all that for years.
[12:19] <caz1121> startx gives the error in question
[12:19] <ss_haze> canonical should cut support for such projects as lubuntu, if they can't fix such thing as system tray in long term release,
[12:19] <ikonia> caz1121: just re-install with the correct version
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !ot|ss_haze,
[12:19] <armin> ezra-s: tried different rendering backends, different graphics cards, compositing and not, modified effects, changed the code of them, etc.
[12:20] <caz1121> A friend installed 12.04, when he left he advised updating to the newer versions.. I started the update last night, rebooted today to find the issue at hand? Help is greatly appreciated
[12:21] <ikonia> caz1121: ok - download version you want, install it
[12:21] <DylanCl> Ugh when this isn't going to work, I'll be stuck with a broken laptop forever
[12:21] <ikonia> caz1121: I would suggest downloading either 12.04 for long term support or 13.04 for the current version
[12:21] <ikonia> caz1121: then install that and you're done
[12:21] <caz1121> many thanks... Image burn the ISO and boot from disk?
[12:21] <JMarshall832> Greetings! I have moved (and had to give some downtime) to a laptop come server running ubuntu studio. The HDD is encrypted and I forgot the original password for login, let alone the pass phrase. I have reset the password for login, but get stuck in a login screen loop. is there any way to get the data off the hard drive?
[12:21] <ikonia> caz1121: it's that simple, yes
[12:22] <cfhowlett> JMarshall832, pretty much the point of encryption ... I'd say no.
[12:22] <caz1121> ikonia:much appreciated, ill do that now
[12:22] <Cosmino> ciao ;)
[12:22] <ikonia> JMarshall832: maybe worth not encypted things in future unless there is a real need
[12:22] <Cosmino> !list
[12:23] <Antar> hi everybody
[12:23] <cfhowlett> Antar, greetings
[12:23] <Antar> :)
[12:23] <jpmh> i have a script that I need to execute when the system comes up - what is the simplest way to cause this?
[12:23] <foofoobar> Hi. I have ubuntu 13.04 and universe activated. But "gnomebaker" is not found with apt-get - why?
[12:23] <ikonia> !info gnomebaker
[12:23] <foofoobar> jpmh: upstart
[12:24] <ikonia> foofoobar: because that package is not in the repo, check the package name
[12:24] <Antar> i want to merge tow partitions using ubuntu i am using live usb
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !gpartd|Antar,
[12:24] <foofoobar> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnomeBaker
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !gparted|Antar,
[12:24] <Antar> without losing my data ??
[12:24] <ikonia> foofoobar: yes and ?
[12:25] <cfhowlett> Antar, um yes, but you WILL backup essential data first.  Right?
[12:25] <foofoobar> ikonia: they called it "gnomebaker" in the ubuntu docs..
[12:25] <foofoobar> How else should I find it
[12:25] <ikonia> foofoobar doesn't mean it's in the version you are using
[12:25] <Antar> what about my data
[12:25] <foofoobar> ikonia: ah, okay
[12:25] <foofoobar> So what can I do now?
[12:25] <ikonia> foofoobar: in terms of what ?
[12:25] <foofoobar> ikonia: I need a tool to burn some music
[12:25] <cfhowlett> Antar, *ideally* it's safe.
[12:26] <cfhowlett> !brasero|foofoobar,
[12:26] <Antar> cfhowlett if i installed windows after that
[12:26] <Antar> do i have problems ?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> Antar, see now, details matter.  install windows FIRST
[12:27] <ikonia> foofoobar: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-help/index.html overview on how to do things in ubuntu 13.04
[12:27] <Antar> ok
[12:30] <ezra-s> Antar, microsoft windows does not care a bit about other OS's installed in the same machine and won't hesitate to erase the boot record to install its boot manager without considering any linux distro or whatever you have in there, Ubuntu will consider the windows installation and will let you keep booting windows, that's why people suggest installing windows first, so you avoid extra work and hassle.
[12:31] <jpmh> foobArrr: i pulled the man page - can you give me a quick way to use upstart to start my script
[12:31] <DylanCl> cfhowlett: Sorry, it's going to take a bit longer. My sister has claimed the computer I was using so I had to re-download the iso
[12:32] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, um about that ... you ARE using a torrent?
[12:32] <DylanCl> No, I just downloaded it fromhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[12:32] <smoke_> i just ran a wine app that changed my screen resolution all wierd in xwindows is it possible to revert the changes so my res looks normal again without rebooting?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, downloads frequently get corrupted.  the recommended practice is to torrent as hash checking is built in ...
[12:33] <smoke_> i killed all the wine processes but it left my screen all zoomed in
[12:33] <DylanCl> Please don't tell me that I have to re-download it because the download just finished :P
[12:33] <DylanCl> Ugh, alright. Where can I find the torrent?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, md5sum check to verify
[12:33] <DylanCl> Well
[12:33] <DylanCl> The program I have auto does that
[12:34] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, goot enought
[12:34] <chunkyhead> guys little help, i was installing oracle java 7 but i quit it was stuck. now whenever i try to install anything it gives me thing warning http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798382/
[12:35] <DylanCl> cfhowlett: how many memory should I give?
[12:35] <DylanCl> How many MB's
[12:35] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, 3 gigs?
[12:35] <susundberg> chunkyhead: you are running some other package manger
[12:35] <ikonia> chunkyhead: quickest way - just reboot to make sure nothing has a lock on a file
[12:35] <chunkyhead> just dpkg
[12:35] <DylanCl> Alright
[12:35] <ikonia> chunkyhead: you can kill processes etc, but just reboot then you know it's clean
[12:35] <DylanCl> It's going
[12:35] <chunkyhead> let me reboot hold on ikonia  brb
[12:35] <chunkyhead> won't logging off serve the problem? ikonia
[12:36] <ikonia> chunkyhead: just reboot
[12:36] <chunkyhead> all user process initiated wil die
[12:36] <chunkyhead> ok
[12:36] <chunkyhead> brb
[12:36]  * cfhowlett ... and all your base are belong to us.
[12:54] <DylanCl> woah
[12:54] <DylanCl> spam of people joining and leaving
[12:54] <DylanCl> anyways, cfhowlett the iso is on the usb
[12:54] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, OK then
[12:54] <DylanCl> I'm going to give this another try :)
[12:54] <Aussie_matt> Hi all. I live in australia. the Dell XPS13 developer edition is not available here. I understand by getting a local xps13 with windows on it, I can create my own sputnik version. are there any problems with doing this?
[12:55] <DylanCl> It returned boot enter
[12:55] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, none.
[12:55] <DylanCl> I mean
[12:55] <DylanCl> Boot error
[12:55] <DylanCl> I pressed enter and now it's on the Ubuntu launch screen
[12:55] <DylanCl> where you have the advanced options and such
[12:55] <Aussie_matt> cfhowlett: when you say none: I can buy any xps13 regardless of cpu and hard drive and it will be ok?
[12:55] <roberts> Hi. when I type a string in Nautilus it auto selects the first matching file/folder, but why it doesn't let me scroll with the mouse wheel all the other matches?
[12:56] <ezra-s> Aussie_matt, what kind of problems are you expecting?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, the downloaded sputnik iso should run without issue ...
[12:56] <mick27> what is the command in raring with upstart to enable or disable a daemon at boot ?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, so ... ?
[12:56] <Aussie_matt> ezra-s: plenty given the device ships with win8 lol.   seriously though, is the new safe boot causing install issues?
[12:56] <DylanCl> cfhowlett: it didn't work. :P
[12:57] <DylanCl> cfhowlett: want me to give you the md5sum log?
[12:57] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, no need.  if it passed md5sum successfully
[12:57] <ezra-s> mick27, afaik it is update-rc.d
[12:57] <DylanCl> What do I do now? :/
[12:58] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, make/model of your computer and what version of ubuntu are you using
[12:58] <Aussie_matt> cfhowlett: I understand most of the sputnik changes were mainlined in 13.04 anyways?
[12:58] <mick27> ezra-s:  wasn't it changed with upstart ? i read initctl but I cannot seem to have this work
[12:59] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, I dont' know those details, but see http://hwe.ubuntu.com/uds-q/dellxps/
[12:59] <ezra-s> Aussie_matt, UEFI is causing a lot of problems yes, there is a guide in the ubuntu website for installing along with UEFI, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[12:59] <roberts> When typing a string in Nautilus it auto selects the first matching file, but why  doesn't it let me scroll with the mouse wheel all the other matches the way it worked in the past?
[12:59] <ezra-s> mick27, why don't you try?
[12:59] <mick27> ezra-s:  I will, but I am looking for the 'official' way
[12:59] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, also http://mattspitz.me/post/44202150125/a-month-with-dells-project-sputnik
[13:00] <DylanCl> HP G62 Notebook PC, BIOS version: F.32, Processor Type: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M35° @2.72GHz, Processor Speed: 2266 MHz
[13:01] <DylanCl> Total memory: 3072 MB
[13:01] <jrib> mick27: there is no command.  You have to modify files in /etc/init to your liking.  Read about "manual override" in the upstart cookbook
[13:01] <columb> Halp. After long time googling my sound is now "works". At least it's sizzle when it's should play sound. A bit better then nothing. :(
[13:01] <mick27> jrib: thx
[13:02] <columb> 12.04 LTS, CA106 audio card.
[13:02] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, did you get the 32 or 64 bit buntu?
[13:03] <DylanCl> 32 bit
[13:03] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, and no other error messages or guidance?
[13:03] <DylanCl> Nope
[13:03] <DylanCl> Just 'Boot Error'
[13:03] <ezra-s> DylanCl, is that thing using UEFI?
[13:03] <DylanCl> Where can I see if it's using UEFI?
[13:04] <ccdetails> looking for credit card expert
[13:04] <ezra-s> DylanCl, BIOS setup I guess, I haven't touched a machine with UEFI yet
[13:04] <cfhowlett> ccdetails, you are in the wrong room
[13:04] <DylanCl> let me see
[13:04] <Aussie_matt> cfhowlett: I have seen the sputnik iso yes. Have you used sputnik?
[13:04] <TheLordOfTime> ccdetails:  this is probably the wrong channel...
[13:04] <ccdetails> can you give me a channel
[13:04] <ezra-s> ccdetails, try #visa
[13:05] <ccdetails> ok thanks
[13:05] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, once.  I'm not a developer so I know only the most general details
[13:05] <DylanCl> Nothing in the Bios Setup that says anything about EUFI
[13:05] <ezra-s> ccdetails, you can also try #security
[13:05] <knIOO> I just picked up a netbook with a cracked screen - is there any way to install Linux without any intervention - ie just a completely headless install that just sets itself up for SSH
[13:05] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, and you loaded 13.04, right?
[13:05] <Aussie_matt> cfhowlett: was it as good as they say?
[13:05] <DylanCl> No, I loaded 12.04
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, I don't have enough of a background to speak knowledgeably.  The integration of software/hardware is reported to be very smooth though
[13:07] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, same usb as last time?
[13:07] <DylanCl> Nope, a different one
[13:07] <DylanCl> Oh I didn't tell you what ubuntu I was running
[13:07] <DylanCl> Xubuntu 12.10
[13:07] <Aussie_matt> cfhowlett: no speed problems? Im running an old e2200 these days and compared to my g2020 workstation it's making me grumpy :(
[13:07] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, good enough.
[13:07] <DylanCl> Well, first I was running ubuntu 12.04, then I decided to update
[13:07] <mick27> ezra-s:  http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[13:07] <DylanCl> but I just get a blackscreen when I launch
[13:08] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, so you DID install, right?
[13:08] <DylanCl> Install as in?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, I only tested it once then switched to ubuntustudio
[13:08] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, put in on the hard drive
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|DylanCl,
[13:08] <DylanCl> I think so..I did the update in the terminal
[13:08] <Aussie_matt> cfhowlett: ok thanks
[13:08] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, I think it's a nomodeset error
[13:08] <DylanCl> I tried the nomodeset thing
[13:08] <DylanCl> but it didn't do anything
[13:09] <DylanCl> still gave me a black screen
[13:09] <DylanCl> A black screen with a '-' in the top left corner
[13:09] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, yeah that's the terminal and generally means you failed at boot.  It's a grub menu
[13:09] <ezra-s> mick27, thank you
[13:09] <DylanCl> So, what should I do?
[13:10] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, assuming good ISO, and good USB, and NOT a nomodeset issue ... I officially don't know what to do next.  ask in the channel, give details
[13:10] <DylanCl> Wait
[13:10] <DylanCl> Is the tutorial outdated?
[13:10] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, tutorial?
[13:10] <DylanCl> >That tutorial about nomodeset
[13:10] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, no, it should be pretty darn current
[13:11] <DylanCl> then there's something different on my side
[13:12] <DylanCl> after
[13:12] <DylanCl> after quiet splash\
[13:12] <DylanCl> there's also $vt_handoff
[13:12] <ehhh> starts with a $ right
[13:12] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, turn off quite splash and see if you get some error messages to work with
[13:13] <ehhh> i tried nomodeset myself yesterday i couldn't get back to the os or anything after updating to 12.10 so i decided to just run 12.04 for now
[13:13] <vladnosferatu> hello, i change the boot to text mode, how i start x ? now ?
[13:13] <DylanCl> It just launched a console
[13:13] <DylanCl> where I need to login
[13:13] <ehhh> since i couldn't get usb to boot properly on that computer
[13:13] <ehhh> reboot
[13:14] <DylanCl> And redo the thing?
[13:14] <ehhh> did you click ctrl+x after editing the grub boot sequence
[13:14] <DylanCl> YeahRight: h
[13:14] <DylanCl> oh I quoted somebody
[13:14] <DylanCl> I mean yeah
[13:14] <DylanCl> so just delete quiet splash
[13:15] <DylanCl> and nothing else?
[13:15] <DylanCl> or quiet splash\
[13:15] <ehhh> take away quiet splash and i'm pretty sure you had to add something or put between
[13:15] <DylanCl> nomodeset?
[13:15] <ehhh> oh yeah, yeah
[13:16] <DylanCl> and do I remove $vt_handoff?
[13:16] <ehhh> just leave it there
[13:16] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, COULD be that the extra options whacked you.  make a new usb, ISO only standard options no extras
[13:17] <DylanCl> Can I try unetboot? or should I stick with the old program
[13:17] <napster> My wifi adapter looks out of order. It gets connected for a while and then disconnects after some time, say 2-3 minutes. How can I troubleshoot this issue?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, my preference is familiarity is with unetbootin but that's just me ...
[13:18] <DylanCl> Well
[13:18] <ehhh> i tried all of them yesterday to no avail, what is your basic problem ? the os won't load after update?
[13:18] <DylanCl> for me the sourcefourge site of unetbootin is down
[13:18] <ehhh> upgrade*
[13:18] <DylanCl> are you talking to me ehhh ?
[13:18] <ehhh> yeah i'm slinging stuff everywhere
[13:18] <DylanCl> haha no problems
[13:18] <DylanCl> but yeah
[13:18] <DylanCl> I updated in the terminal from ubuntu 12.04 to xubuntu 12.10
[13:19] <DylanCl> After seeing the blue Xubuntu 12.10 screen where it's loading
[13:19] <DylanCl> it just stops, goes to a black screen
[13:19] <DylanCl> with a '-' at the top left corner
[13:19] <ehhh> yeah I had the same problem yesterday except i just tried to upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04
[13:19] <DylanCl> that's downgrade
[13:19] <DylanCl> and I heard downgrading is near impossible on ubuntu
[13:20] <ehhh> no you need to read that line again and interpret it properly :P
[13:20] <DylanCl> oh
[13:20] <ehhh> lol
[13:20] <DylanCl> noooo not cfhowlett
[13:21] <DylanCl> I'm going to try to update from 12.10 to 13.04
[13:21] <DylanCl> Maybe that will work
[13:21] <ehhh> basically what i ended up with was running 12.04 because i could install it from a cd-rom, i've had this problem before when upgrading earlier basically every time
[13:21] <ehhh> then i'll try a clean install of xubuntu 13.04 when i can get the dvds
[13:22] <DylanCl> I'd pay $100 to get my 12.04 back lol
[13:22] <ehhh> lol, do you have a cd/dvd with 12.04 ?
[13:22] <DylanCl> No
[13:22] <DylanCl> Only an usb
[13:22] <ccdetails>  looking for a credit card details expert
[13:22] <armin> and another nice one: mouse cursor suddenly completely hidden, only way to fix it killing X.
[13:22] <armin> m(
[13:22] <DylanCl> ugh
[13:23] <DylanCl> back to the black screen
[13:23] <DylanCl> seriously fuck xubuntu :/
[13:23] <FloodBot1> DylanCl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:23] <DylanCl> time to download ubuntu 13.04
[13:23] <BluesKaj> ccdetails, . you won't find one here
[13:23] <ehhh> i don't think it's X that's the problem  . . what i found out was that after updating and upgrading 12.10 had removed some important files that it wasn't supposed to. .
[13:24] <BluesKaj> !legal | ccdetails
[13:24] <DylanCl> well what should I do?
[13:24] <ccdetails> yup
[13:24] <ehhh> so it wouldn't work. . hence i need to do a clean 13.04 install
[13:24] <DylanCl> I'm just testing out stuff right now
[13:25] <BluesKaj> or illegal  , ccdetails
[13:25] <acerimmer> DylanCl, for testing, install virtualbox in windows.  install ubuntu's to virtualbox.
[13:25] <DylanCl> I'm currently installing 13.04 since it only takes a few minutes
[13:25] <DylanCl> ah that's a good idea
[13:25] <ehhh> it's worth a try
[13:26] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, are you around ?
[13:28] <columb> Sizzle instead of sound on ubuntu 12.4 LTS with audio card CA106. Alsamixer screenshot - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27770548/t/alsamixer.png
[13:31] <FfoO> Greetings, everyone; I have a little question here: I have my hidden network here, to which I connect by '$ sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid [NameOfNetwork]'. I would like to save it so I wouldn't need to type that every time I log in.
[13:32] <th0r> FfoO, I used network mangler to log into my network when I had it hidden...no problem
[13:32] <reisio> FfoO: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[13:32] <MinecraftRocks> hi
[13:33] <reisio> MinecraftRocks: hi
[13:34] <BluesKaj> columb, which audio feed are using , spdif ot analog ?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> are you using , rather
, no idea. How do I know it?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> columb, do you have speakers connected to the soundcard ? that would be analog
[13:36] <ubuntu1> sfjfjf
[13:37] <ubuntu1> mex vs par 10 a.m
[13:37] <columb> No. It's 5.1 speakers. They are connected to subwoofer.
[13:39] <FfoO> Yet about the hidden network: is it possible to create a text file with the '$ sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid [NameOfNetwork]' and save it with somewhere so it would be part of the system files?
[13:39] <FfoO> -with
[13:39] <BluesKaj> columb, then how is the subwoofer connected ?
[13:39] <ubuntu1> mex vs par 10 a.m
[13:40] <FfoO> I use ubuntu 12.04, by the way.
[13:41] <columb> BluesKaj. Oh. I just switched from Digital to Analot output. Now it's work. But only stereo.
[13:41] <Dylancl> ehhh: guess what
[13:41] <Dylancl> I launched the installation of 13.04
[13:41] <Dylancl> it worked :D
[13:41] <Dylancl> omg I'm so happy right now
[13:42] <acerimmer> so it
[13:42] <acerimmer> installed
[13:42] <acerimmer> ?
[13:42] <reisio> FfoO: yes
[13:42] <columb> BluesKaj, found a way to make it work. Thanks!
[13:42] <reisio> to make what work?
[13:42] <columb> 5.1 speakers.
[13:42] <BluesKaj> columb, ok ghood
[13:42] <Dylancl> I got ubuntu 13.04 to work
[13:43] <Dylancl> I had Xubuntu 12.10 but it returned a black screen
[13:43] <reisio> ah
[13:44] <FfoO> Okay. Thank you reisio and th0r.
[13:44] <BluesKaj> columb, does your subwoofer input have a digital option?
[13:45] <columb> BluesKaj, no idea.
[13:45] <yayo> I have a local java app which I run as a regular user that wants to use tcp port 90. how do I make it available without making it available for external connections? I also have firestarter firewall installed
[13:45] <roberts> When typing a string in Nautilus it auto selects the first matching file, but why  doesn't it let me scroll with the mouse wheel all the other matches the way it worked in the past?
[13:45] <gordonjcp> yayo: are you behind a NAT router?
[13:46] <mumpitze1> yayo: listening on port 90?
[13:46] <mumpitze1> yayo: and normally you configure the program to listen on localhost aka <IP_ADDRESS> only
[13:46] <BluesKaj> columb, look in your instructions that came with the speaker system
[13:47] <yayo> gordonjcp: mumpitze1 the app is a server tomcat style, so it will go to localhost..... I am not under a router, I am directly plugged in to internet connection
[13:47] <columb> BluesKaj I installed them like 3 years ago. Or so. No instructions left.
[13:47] <BluesKaj> columb,  ok
[13:49] <Dylancl> What have I learned about ubuntu today: never give up
[13:51] <kurthybela_> Hi all
[13:51] <yayo> I have a local java app which I run as a regular user that wants to use tcp port 90. how do I make it available without making it available for external connections? I also have firestarter firewall installed
[13:51] <acerimmer> Dylancl, wisdom you have gained ...
[13:51] <ptge> hi
[13:51] <acerimmer> Dylancl, more to learn you have
[13:51] <acerimmer> ptge, greetings
[13:52] <quanticka> ey
[13:52] <kurthybela_> I want to ask You about GPL licence in software development
[13:53] <acerimmer> !ot|kurthybela_, not the best channel for that ...
[13:53] <quanticka> is there a channel for jquery, or java/js in general?
[13:53] <kurthybela_> ubottu, okey, sorry :)
[13:54] <quanticka> lolcomcast
[13:55] <dotcom> Hi there. Lately my cpu is running too slow. What can be the reason? Have a look at this "sensors" output, http://i.imgur.com/jXRXFym.png
[13:56] <dotcom> And this is from "dmesg" log, http://i.imgur.com/jXRXFym.png
[13:56] <raphinou> anyone willing to help me debug a udev rule?
[13:56] <wheatthin> looks like they are running hot dotcom
[13:57] <raphinou> Here's the rule: SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ACTION=="add", ATTRS{serial}="N204B34306621", RUN+='/usr/local/bin/test.sh'
[13:57] <raphinou> does this seem correct?
[13:57] <dotcom> wheatthin: Is it normal? Can this temperature damage my cpu?
[13:57] <dotcom> What does "Alarm" mean?
[13:57] <wheatthin> dotcom, it can indeed.. normal operating temps are near 70c
[13:58] <wheatthin> dotcom, try cleaning out heatsyncs and use new thermal paste to see if that helps
[13:59] <dotcom> ok
[14:00] <dotcom> By the way, what does "Alarm" mean in that line, "Core 0:      +92.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)  ALARM  "  ?
[14:01] <SamEEE> i'd wager if you're running that hot it is a thermal paste issue
[14:01] <vlad22> remember bye bye at 99
[14:02] <mumpitze1> dotcom: it's above the "high" threshold
[14:02] <SamEEE> i dont let my cpu run hotter than 50 degrees
[14:02] <mumpitze1> SamEEE: he might have a laptop
[14:02] <vlad22> I max at 56
[14:02] <TakumoKatekari> SamEEE: I wish I could keep mine that cool, I keep it ad under 65 until I get a new case
[14:02] <SamEEE> mumpitze1: hadn't thought of that
[14:03] <TakumoKatekari> Hopefully this summer the hot weather will make me get a better case and liquid cooling.
[14:03] <dotcom> vlad22: "Core 0:      +98.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)  ALARM"     close enough
[14:03] <SamEEE> Noctua Coolers work really well.  Have an old E8400 which i've overclocked to 4.0GHz and it runs really cool
[14:06] <dotcom> One constraint is that i have to put this pc in scorching heat of 38 degree celcius surrounding temperature.
[14:06] <munzx> hi guys! ..... what is the best ultrabook for ubuntu! !!!! ???
[14:06] <acerimmer> !best
[14:07] <acerimmer> munzx, obviously opinions differ.  That said, see http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/f/4613.aspx
[14:08] <SamEEE> I like the 430s Lenovo
[14:08] <vlad22> I'm using a E2 gateway
[14:08] <munzx> acerimmer : yea i know but i want an opinion of some1 using the ultrabook!
[14:09] <chimera_> teste
[14:10] <somsip> munzx: "If you insist on getting  people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[14:10] <munzx> ok .. so oth of 430s Lenovo and E2 gateway  has an SSD and intel 4000 ! right?
[14:10] <vlad22> ssd here but apu sorry
[14:11] <munzx> somsip: thanks but i really dont know how to do that :-(
[14:11] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:12] <munzx> ok thanks guys
[14:31] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:32] <vlad24bit> how do you compile custom sdl libraries in a make command
[14:36] <ActionPa1snip> vlad24bit: I'd ask in #c++
[14:36] <vlad24bit> k
[14:43] <Ari-Yang> hey, if I run aptitude purge fglrx (it said that fglrx{p} will be removed, which I confirmed and removed), does that mean that if I try selecting fglrx from Software Sources in the Additional Drivers tab, won't work?
[14:43] <Ari-Yang> this is 12.10
[14:45] <fei> fei
[14:47] <zwov> hello :)
[14:48] <reisio> zwov: hi
[14:49] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:49] <zwov> i just tsarted with ubuntu and already figured out many things, but still...what is the most important things i need to know?
[14:50] <reisio> zwov: the most important thing you need to know with any OS is how to update and maintain an installation
[14:50] <reisio> zwov: namely, how to utilize the package manager
[14:51] <reisio> alas, without another installation (though it can be in a VM), you can't really learn this naturally without the passage of time
[14:51] <Ari-Yang> hey, if I run aptitude purge fglrx (it said that fglrx{p} will be removed, which I confirmed and removed), does that mean that if I try selecting fglrx from Software Sources in the Additional Drivers tab, it will fail to activate and I have to install it again? This is ubuntu 12.10
[14:51] <yakeb> Hi chatroom. I am running Ubuntu 12.04.2. I have an issue in which, when I wake my desktop computer from hibernation, it seems that the keyboard does not work and the screen stays asleep. Could this be caused by something very obvious and easy to resolve?
[14:53] <zwov> reisio i recon the software center pretty much handles everytinhg aroud here
[14:54] <reisio> zwov: I reckon not, but that is your privilege :p
[14:54] <bob__> How do I install my laptop's built in webcam?
[14:54] <reisio> bob__: you might see if it 'just works' first
[14:54] <reisio> install cheese
[14:55] <zwov> reisio I'm new to ubuntu so maybe in time I'll know more but for now, software center and "sudo" have done pretty much anything i needed :D
[14:55] <reisio> zwov: sit back and enjoy it, then :)
[14:55] <bob__> reisio: how?!? there are no cam apps as I searched in  dash home
[14:56] <reisio> bob__: install cheese
[14:56] <reisio> or luvcview
[14:56] <reisio> or guvcview
[14:56] <reisio> or mplayer
[14:58] <ActionPa1snip> bob__: cheese is a decent cam tester
[14:59] <rypervenche> Anyone have any idea why my claws-mail wouldn't be able to find a public key when I try to send an GPG-encrypted message? I have imported the key properly, however it doesn't seem to be able to find the key when I try to encrypt the message.
[14:59] <reisio> bob__: in case you needed to hear it a third time :p
[15:00] <zwov> and i found out how much freedom this Ubuntu offers...in windows its all accept terms of use and you have to buy this and that and there goes NSA from the backdoor and there you need to upgrade this and all sorst of shit that just dont happen on linux... :D
[15:00] <viju> Hi, how to hibernate computer?
[15:00] <reisio> zwov: indeed
[15:00] <reisio> viju: laptop?
[15:00] <viju> Yes reisio .
[15:01] <reisio> viju: there should be hibernation options in the menu somewhere, in that case
[15:01] <reisio> likely it will hibernate on its own if you close the lid and remove the power cable and leave it long enough
[15:01] <zwov> only bad thing i see is that i wont develop on .NET platform anymore, but in time i can rewrite all my codes in java and that would solve about anything
[15:03] <viju> reisio: There's an option in settings for hibernate, but it's greyed.
[15:03] <reisio> zwov: you can develop .NET on Unix systems, actually
[15:03] <reisio> probably more effectively
[15:03] <reisio> but I'm not sure you'd want to, knowing .NET is reliant more than anything on Microsoft
[15:03] <reisio> viju: check your BIOS options first
[15:03] <tresipunt_> hellow people
[15:04] <zwov> i heard about the Mono but i dont feel like moving a finger over MS systems anymore...
[15:04] <viju> reisio: How?
[15:04] <reisio> zwov: that is the right feeling :)
[15:04] <tresipunt_> can anyone help me with this error:
[15:04] <tresipunt_> Couldn't load file:/home/tresipunt/Escriptori/TideSDK-Developer-1.4.2-linux-x86/runtime/1.3.1-beta/libtide.so, error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.15' not found (required by /home/tresipunt/Escriptori/TideSDK-Developer-1.4.2-linux-x86/runtime/1.3.1-beta/libtide.so)
[15:04] <reisio> the idea of moving my coworkers' systems that use ASP on Windows Server, however, to mono based Unix, makes me so happy :p
[15:04] <reisio> until they can learn a real language
[15:06] <zwov> always hated MS but sticked to it because i was goot at .NEt programing...but the PRISM was the last drop and i said to myself...do i need this shit?
[15:07] <SolarisBoy> tresipunt_: seems that whatever your trying to do requires a specific glibc version -
[15:07] <reisio> zwov: and that's not even the best reason to avoid Microsoft stuff :)
[15:08] <tresipunt_> SolarisBoy,  I hae up to version 3.14 but not 3.15
[15:08] <reisio> the best reason is that it's massively inferior :D
[15:08] <tresipunt_> I dont know how to install it
[15:09] <SolarisBoy> tresipunt_: hmmm
[15:09] <tresipunt_> ok it was as easy as to do sudo apt-get install libstdc++6
[15:09] <tresipunt_> xD
[15:09] <reisio> now you have six incremented STDs in your library
[15:09] <reisio> gj
[15:09] <SolarisBoy> tresipunt_: cool - i was just typing 'apt-cache search..' and you replied back =)
[15:10] <SolarisBoy> i get scared of playing with glibc =(
[15:10] <zwov> i know... i would say the best thing is that, hen you have a problem with MS stuff, you write on support and answer comes like in year..here oyu just pop into IRC and find always someone capable and willing to help and even some day, it can be you
[15:10] <kaje> My /boot partition filled up and now apt is choking. I've cleared some space, but I'm getting this error when I try to install anything: http://pastebin.com/bGtWrA1F
[15:10] <kaje> What should I do to fix this problem?
[15:10] <SolarisBoy> zwov: also to add the answer from MS when it comes back generally is extremely lame
[15:14] <zwov> SolarisBoy: well, hard to tell, never got any...
[15:14] <blz> Hello, I'm getting the following error when I try apt-get update:  "Reading package lists... Error!
[15:14] <blz> E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list (dist parse).  E: The list of sources could not be read. E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened."  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list has one line which reads "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ raring partner".  What gives?
[15:14] <SolarisBoy> anyone happen to be using anything for placing windows (like devils2 pie or whatever)& using a standard ubuntu 12.04 install?
[15:15] <SolarisBoy> blz: do you have some typo or problematic characters in that file on the referenced line?
[15:15] <blz> SolarisBoy, I don't see any =/
[15:15] <blz> SolarisBoy, unless I've missed something
[15:15] <SolarisBoy> blz: post your file to pastebin maybe someone can help.
[15:15] <blz> SolarisBoy, I just posted the entire contents of the file
[15:15] <goblin> hi, I tried to install a custom terminal application to the panel via a .desktop file in .local/share/applications, but while it is found and displayed correctly in the HUD, if I execute it, another empty element is created on the sidebar
[15:15]  * SolarisBoy lastlogging
[15:15] <reisio> SolarisBoy: I use wmctrl in scripts every now and again
[15:16] <goblin> this is the file: http://pastebin.com/RcEjs4SQ
[15:16] <Ari-Yang> hey, if I run aptitude purge fglrx (it said that fglrx{p} will be removed, which I confirmed and removed), does that mean that if I try selecting fglrx from Software Sources in the Additional Drivers tab, it will fail to activate and I have to install it again? This is ubuntu 12.10
[15:16] <SolarisBoy> reisio: does it work for you with workspaces or "viewports" or whatever? when i list my workspaces i get one huge workspace
[15:16] <blz> SolarisBoy, the file only contains:  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ raring partner
[15:17] <reisio> SolarisBoy: I only use one monitor typically :)
[15:17] <bob__> I downloaded cheese, but it isn't working. My built in camers seems to be not installed
[15:17] <SolarisBoy> reisio: =( I got two lol
[15:17] <reisio> two at work, but at work I have bigger fish
[15:17] <reisio> bob__: what does lsusb say?
[15:17] <SolarisBoy> reisio: @ work right now =)
[15:17] <whoever> hi all, i have 12.10 on a notebook,  and when i select shutdown , the lappy restarts, but if i hold the power button on the laptop it will shut down. can someone asist
[15:18] <bob__> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798802/
[15:18] <goblin> ok, some clarification, its not a terminal application, its a terminal emulator application, and I'm using ubuntu 13.04
[15:19] <SolarisBoy> reisio: yea - so i found only way which is painstaking, it's the viewport way which seems broken in devilspie2 - its basically calculating the size of the desktop and splitting it into "view ports" and then it uses those coords to place things properly - which really sounds painful =)
[15:19] <blz> Okay, so removing the line "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ raring partner" gets rid of the errors.  Does anybody see what's wrong with that line?
[15:19] <blz> Because I'll be damned if I can find anything wrong with it =/
[15:19] <SolarisBoy> i do like that devilspie2 went lua for configs and i *should* be able to use some sort of exec command to run wmcntrl from devilspie2 hopefully
[15:20] <SolarisBoy> blz: possible the trailing backslash?
[15:21] <SolarisBoy> i always like open files in vim and run :set list and see any hidden chars if they exist - like from winblows editing
[15:21] <blz> SolarisBoy, good thought, but no... what you see is literally the entire line (the entire file, actually...)
[15:21] <blz> SolarisBoy, hmm that's a very good thought.  I'll try that
[15:21] <SolarisBoy> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ vs. http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
[15:22] <blz> SolarisBoy, also a good thought
[15:22] <blz> alright let me try that out
[15:22] <SolarisBoy> is how you understood trailing slash?
[15:22] <SolarisBoy> cool
[15:22] <michagogo> How can I automatically mount a filesystem on boot? I run 12.04 off of an external drive occasionally, with my primary OS being Windows. I have my IRC client from Windows installed using Wine, and I have the logs directory symlinked to /media/FEB07213B071D31F/Users/Micha/AppData/Roaming/....., pointing to the logs folder on Windows.
[15:22] <blz> SolarisBoy, I thought you said backslash, but I suppose that's also worth a try
[15:22] <SolarisBoy> oh yea - thats a forward slash haha =)
[15:22]  * SolarisBoy facepalm
[15:22] <blz> ^^
[15:23] <SolarisBoy> dont worry i actually say things like this to my co workers and it drives them bat shi* - "YOU SAID BACKSLASH DUDE"...
[15:23] <michagogo> However, each time I boot, that path doesn't exist until I click "727 GB Filesystem" in the file browser
[15:23] <SolarisBoy> michagogo: configuring the mount point  in fstab should work
[15:24] <SolarisBoy> michagogo: /etc/fstab will persist your mounts -
[15:24] <michagogo> What is that?
[15:24] <SolarisBoy> a file that persists mounts.
[15:24] <michagogo> Ah
[15:24] <mbeierl> !fstab
[15:24] <michagogo> What do I need to do?
[15:24] <michagogo> Ah, okay
[15:24] <michagogo> !partitions
[15:24] <blz> SolarisBoy, so this seems to have gotten us somewhere.  Now it's complaining about duplicate entries, but it's not throwing any critical errors.
[15:24] <michagogo> I'll take a look
[15:24] <SolarisBoy> michagogo: start by reading up on that one ^
[15:24] <SolarisBoy> blz: that should be cool - im anal i would look for the dupe =)
[15:25] <SolarisBoy> i hate warnings!
[15:25] <blz> SolarisBoy, yeah I'm like you!  There's still only the one line in that file, though =/
[15:25] <SolarisBoy> michagogo: well im not sure you are so concerned with partitioning as much as mounting something that sounds like an existing filesystem, in which case, you probably dont want to partition - so just to be clear - read the link on fstab -
[15:26] <SolarisBoy> blz: oh you may want to expand your search area - 'grep -r <dup_string> /etc/apt' recursively search there.
[15:26] <blz> Actually this doesn't make much sense to me at all... what's this business in /var/lib?  W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ raring/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)  W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ raring/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_r
[15:26] <blz> aring_partner_binary-i386_Packages)  W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[15:27] <SolarisBoy> oh maybe you want to run apt-get update
[15:27] <SolarisBoy> word
[15:27] <blz> SolarisBoy, I did
[15:27] <blz> a few times
[15:27] <SolarisBoy> interesting
[15:27] <blz> I know, right?
[15:27] <SolarisBoy> oh wait
[15:27] <SolarisBoy> do the clean up commands
[15:28] <hadifarnoud> is anyone here also on #ubuntu-server?
[15:28] <SolarisBoy> actually - first remove the entry - run like apt-get clean or whatever - then apt-get update
[15:28] <SolarisBoy> then put it back and apt-get udpate its just a stale entry in the caching areas i think
[15:28] <blz> SolarisBoy, I'm not sure which entry to clean up
[15:28] <blz> maybe I should just remove the entire i386 file?
[15:28] <SolarisBoy> apt-get clean doesn't take args
[15:28] <SolarisBoy> ^
[15:28] <ActionPa1snip> blz: lsb_release -a; grep -R partner /etc/apt/*    what is output (please use a pastebin like http://pastie.org)
[15:29] <blz> ActionPa1snip, do you want that with sudo?
[15:29] <SolarisBoy> shouldn't need it
[15:29] <ActionPa1snip> blz: no, or I would have added sudo
[15:29] <blz> Just checking ;-)
[15:29] <ActionPa1snip> blz: no bad thing :)
[15:29] <blz> ActionPa1snip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798837/
[15:29] <whoever> i have installed laptop-mode-tools and the  issue persists
[15:30] <ripthejacker> Are there unity equivalent of KDE widgets?
[15:30] <blz> That last line seems to be in there twice
[15:30] <ActionPa1snip> ripthejacker: gdesklets, the DE is still gnome
[15:30] <ripthejacker> Or any way to have desktop widgets
[15:30] <SolarisBoy> its in the mail file and in a additional file
[15:30] <ActionPa1snip> blz: can you pastebin the text please
[15:30] <SolarisBoy> /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list
[15:30] <ripthejacker> ActionPa1snip: ok thanks , i'll have a look at it
[15:30] <ActionPa1snip> blz: sorry, missed the link
[15:31] <blz> ActionPa1snip, no worries. It's always busy in here
[15:31] <michagogo> SolarisBoy: It looks to me like udisks would be much simpler. Can I just do that?
[15:31] <kaje> Any thoughts on how to fix this apt problem?: http://pastebin.com/bGtWrA1F
[15:31] <ActionPa1snip> blz: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list; sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.save
[15:31] <SolarisBoy> michagogo: udisks simpler than fstab - sure im sure you can im not familiar with udisks though =(
[15:31] <michagogo> I'm currently looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[15:31] <ActionPa1snip> kaje: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[15:32] <blz> ActionPa1snip, that seems to have done it.  Any idea how this might have happened?
[15:32] <ActionPa1snip> blz: you enabled the partner repo, it added an extra file when the repo was already defined in sources.list
[15:32] <whoever> need some assistance with http://askubuntu.com/questions/130160/ubuntu-12-04-does-a-restart-instead-of-a-shutdown
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> kaje  what's the output of      cat /etc/issue;sudo apt-get update   ?
[15:33] <blz> ActionPa1snip, I see. That's what I get for doing several things at once.  Thanks for your help!
[15:33] <whoever> i don't think that the path contains * so what should i put in its place
[15:33] <blz> SolarisBoy, thanks for your help as well!
[15:33] <btorch> is there no option to not use this unity crap when installing ubuntu  ?
[15:33] <blz> btorch, what do you want to use?
[15:33] <btorch> just classic gnome
[15:33] <SolarisBoy> np
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> btorch  install some other DE, logout, change, login
[15:33] <Ari-Yang> ^
[15:33] <Ari-Yang> or WM
[15:33] <sw> whoever: So you've come here for support, and expect someone to open their browser, go to that link, read your problem and then provide a solution back in here? Just ask your question here and if someone knows the answer they'll answer ;-)
[15:34] <blz> btorch, have you tried google?
[15:34] <ActionPa1snip> btorch: you can install gnome-panel and get the old school session, I believe cinnammon is in the repos now
[15:34] <ActionPa1snip> btorch: or install Xubuntu which is equally supported as Ubuntu and does not ship with Unity
[15:34] <blz> btorch, because there are a __lot__ of people who prefer gnome classic, and afaik it's just a matter of enabling a ppa and installing gnome classic
[15:34] <ActionPa1snip> blz: no need for any ppa, gnome-panel is in the repos
[15:34] <kaje> ActionPa1snip, MonkeyDust: Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/Xzgc5fGJ
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> kaje  i see a mix of i386 and amd64 sources
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> kaje  maybe that conflicts
[15:36] <kingbeast> In 12.04 you still have to add the repos
[15:36] <whoever> sw: the solution says write on into /sys/bus/*/devices/*/power/control . but i do not think the pathe contains * so what am i to put in its place
[15:37] <ActionPa1snip> !info gnome-panel precise
[15:37] <sw> whoever: That will work as it is.
[15:37] <kingbeast> for cinnamon
[15:38] <kaje> This all started because my /boot was full. I cleared out the space and ran upgrade, but I'm still getting this dependency error message.
[15:38] <ActionPa1snip> !info cinnamon precise
[15:38] <ActionPa1snip> !info cinnamon quantal
[15:38] <ActionPa1snip> !info cinnamon raring
[15:38] <ActionPa1snip> yay
[15:38] <whoever> sw: ok, so i am not understanding how to apply this scrip then
[15:39] <sw> whoever: What script?
[15:39] <kaje> I don't get why it isn't installing linux-server <IP_ADDRESS>.58 to match the other packages...
[15:39] <kingbeast> ActionPa1snip, I only know that because I use cinnamon on 12.04
[15:39] <holstein> kaje: how customized is your system? why do you have a seperate /boot ?
[15:40] <kaje> I'm not sure. But, the boot space issue has been resolved. I just have this package dependency error now.
[15:40] <genii> kaje: It's suggesting to use sudo apt-get autoremove  to clear out the kernel cruft in /boot , did you try that yet?
[15:41] <michagogo> SolarisBoy: Looks like the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions did the trick. Thanks for your help!
[15:41] <zztr1> i'm having issues with a new install of ubuntu-gnome detecting my old monitor. i've been quacking (ddg.gg) for a few hours and I can't find much help regarding gdm (or other) for getting this to work. my monitor ( http://kiq.me/JEX ) has windows drivers only, but my previous install of fedora 17 was working with it. pointers please?
[15:41] <whoever> sw http://askubuntu.com/questions/130160/ubuntu-12-04-does-a-restart-instead-of-a-shutdown
[15:41] <holstein> kaje: sure, but if you have customized other parts of the system/install, that might be responsibe for the issues you are seeing.. might be worth looking into what else you have dont.. PPAs?
[15:41] <ActionPa1snip> kingbeast: gotcha, I think DEs are a waste of resources, a WM on it's own does me :)
[15:41] <mn2010> lightdm zztr1
[15:41] <ActionPa1snip> zztr1: monitors dont need drivers, even in windows
[15:41] <holstein> zztr1: i would remove gnome from the equation.. see that is has nothing to do with gnome
[15:42] <kingbeast> ActionPa1snip, I used to run fluxbox, just have gotten lazy in elder days...lol
[15:42] <ActionPa1snip> zztr1: what video chip are you using?
[15:42] <ActionPa1snip> kingbeast: openbox here :)
[15:42] <michagogo> Why +r *and* +q $~a?
[15:42] <ActionPa1snip> kingbeast: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/24thJune2013.png     openbox + tint2 + pcmanfm
[15:43] <kaje> genii: Yes, I did that and it made a lot of space in /boot. Now these dependency errors remain
[15:43] <mn2010> -_- drivers for monitors are pointless, if it doesnt support EDID or DDC, manually specify the Resolutions and its hz in xorg.conf
[15:43] <zztr1> holstein: mn2010: [ $(which lightdm; echo $?; ) = 0 ]
[15:44] <zztr1> ActionPa1snip: i don't know... (looks inside)
[15:45] <kaje> genii: Can I force it to upgrade the linux-server package to <IP_ADDRESS>.58?
[15:45] <zztr1> ActionPa1snip: geoforce gt220
[15:46] <kaje> Or downgrade the other two dependencies and then run a normal upgrade?
[15:46] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:47] <Vec_> I have just installed ubuntu server 12.04 on my home server. I want this server to share files and a printer. I am 99% new to linux and as such not familiar with the terminal. What do you guys recommend me doing to administer/configurate this home server? I've been looking at webmin (i know its discontiniued for ubuntu) and Zentyal but i'm not 100% sure what i really need here.
[15:47] <Vec_> I have just installed ubuntu server 12.04 on my home server. I want this server to share files and a printer. I am 99% new to linux and as such not familiar with the terminal. What do you guys recommend me doing to administer/configurate this home server? I've been looking at webmin (i know its discontiniued for ubuntu) and Zentyal but i'm not 100% sure what i really need here.
[15:47] <blz> Vec_, CUPS should be able to manage printer sharing with samba
[15:47] <blz> Vec_, are you sharing with windows machines?
[15:48] <ActionPa1snip> Vec_: install samba and the printer will share
[15:48] <holstein> Vec_: i would install a desktop OS, something light-ish, such as lubuntu or xubuntu, and serve the shares from there, with a desktop environment on the server that you might be more comfortable interfacing with
[15:48] <ActionPa1snip> Vec_: you can share folders by defining shares in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[15:48] <Vec_> Sharing with windows machines yes
[15:48] <ActionPa1snip> Vec_: or for secure file sharing, use sftp which is activated when you installed openssh-server
[15:48] <blz> Vec_, then samba is the way to go
[15:48] <blz> Vec_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba
[15:49] <gene__> anyone alive here?
[15:49] <blz> gene__, nope
[15:49] <gene__> :( okay
[15:50] <blz> gene__, you missed the monthly sepukku party
[15:50] <Zenger> Hi guys, I've made a few tests on my VPS with ubuntu, and I have been uninstalling and installing nginx a few times. Now I have a big issue, I've installed nginx but it doesn't exist anywhere. Ubuntu says it exists, it even runs the dameon, but no files of nginx exist anywhere. What could be the problem ?
[15:50] <tgunr> I need to use a Macintosh Disk Utility to create a USB stick from the ISO, it's going onto a Supermicro X7DCA-L for installation, my question is what format should I use on the stick? is MSDOS FAT good enough? (lowest common denominator?)
[15:51] <Corey> tgunr: No.
[15:51] <Corey> tgunr: Use the disk utility to restore the ISO to the drive; google is your friend.
[15:51] <ActionPa1snip> tgunr: FAT is fine
[15:51] <holstein> Zenger: configuration, likely ..i would ask in a server or nginx support channel..
[15:51] <blz> I have a service running via a file in /etc/init.d  I can start/stop it with "sudo service ..." but I would like it to __not__ start when my system boots.  How can I achieve this?
[15:51] <Corey> ActionPa1snip: ISOs contain their own filesystem already.
[15:51] <tgunr> huh? what drive? I'm creating a USB stick
[15:52] <Zenger> holstein: hm, thx, will try that too
[15:52] <ActionPa1snip> Corey: yes but the USB stick needs to be writable for tyhe files to be spat out to it
[15:52] <Corey> blz: update-rc.d disable :-)
[15:52] <Corey> ActionPa1snip: Writeable, not formatted.
[15:52] <blz> Corey, well that's much simpler than expected!  And I'll still be able to start it with service <servicename> start ?
[15:53] <Corey> blz: Correct. I forget the exactly update-rc.d syntax.
[15:53] <Corey> exact!
[15:53] <Corey> I can't type today.
[15:53]  * tgunr does some more googling
[15:53] <ActionPa1snip> Corey: loads of guies say to format it, so I follow suit.
[15:53] <blz> Corey, cool, thanks!
[15:53] <Corey> ActionPa1snip: Cargo cult support. :-p
[15:54] <ActionPa1snip> Corey: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#requirements   states: If your USB drive doesn't show up, reformat it as FAT32.
[15:54] <XATRIX> Hi guys, i'm currently using 'brcmsmac' driver for my "Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)" , but it doesn't support ad-hoc mode. Is it possible to use propietary driver for ?
[15:54] <tgunr> I could try them all but the guy doing the install is an hour from the computer, would like to get it right the first time
[15:54] <blz> Corey, it works!  sudo update-rc.d <servicename> disable
[15:54] <blz> thanks!
[15:55] <Corey> blz: Hooray. Sweet.
[15:55] <holstein> tgunr: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx is this what you are looking for? not sure why you preface with "i need to use mac disk utiliy" ... you need to make a bootable stick, correct?
[15:55] <ActionPa1snip> XATRIX: what is teh output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:55] <ActionPa1snip> Corey: what say you now?
[15:55] <XATRIX> ActionPa1snip: Ubuntu 13.04
[15:55] <tgunr> correct, but it is going to be installed onto a supermicro, not a mac
[15:55] <holstein> tgunr: they are both intel, correct?
[15:56] <tgunr> have to check the mac, but i think so
[15:56] <holstein> tgunr: feel free and refer to the link above.. its how to make a bootable usb from osx..
[15:56] <zslewis> hello
[15:56] <tgunr> yeah, its a mac so no endian problem
[15:57] <ActionPa1snip> XATRIX: thats not the output
[15:57] <gene__> I'm getting a "The system is running in low-graphics mode" error oon VirtualBox ubuntu installation. Anyone have any idea?
[15:57] <ActionPa1snip> XATRIX: copy and paste the text outputted please
[15:57] <holstein> gene__: the "guest" os is ubuntu? and is reporting that?
[15:57] <kaje> Anyone else know how I can fix this apt dependency problem? http://pastebin.com/fvczXPZZ
[15:57] <ActionPa1snip> gene__: ask in #vbox too
[15:58] <Kacey> hello
[15:58] <XATRIX> xatrix@Acer-D255E:~$ cat /etc/issue
[15:58] <XATRIX> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[15:58] <XATRIX> xatrix@Acer-D255E:~$
[15:58] <gene__> ActionPa1snip, the host is windows 7
[15:58] <holstein> kaje: i would try downgrading.. do you have PPA's? did you do anything else custom to the system?
[15:58] <ActionPa1snip> gene__: I know of an xorg.conf file that sets it to 1024x768
[15:58] <whoever> is laptop-mode-tools needed in 12.10 ? i don't see any added feature or power managment
[15:58] <kaje> holstein: no. How do I downgrade?
[15:59] <ActionPa1snip> XATRIX: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=155752
[15:59] <Ari-Yang> whoever, system settings->power
[15:59] <Ari-Yang> ?
[15:59] <holstein> kaje: i would just try some things.. i would try different package managers.. i would look at what i have added or changed from the default install
[15:59] <Ari-Yang> the icon for it is a battery
[15:59] <tgunr> holstein: ynx, will cross my fingers, my initial thought was to restore the flash drive from the iso, which would then make the flash drive same as the iso
[16:00] <kaje> holstein: is it safe to remove linux-server or is that going to screw up my system?
[16:00] <ActionPa1snip> kaje: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777759
[16:00] <kaje> I am 4000 miles away from this server and it would be very bad if it became inoperable...
[16:01] <blz> I often reinstall ubuntu (usually with every release) and it's becoming a pain to re-add all my PPAs, packages and custom settings.  Is there a way to automate this?
[16:01] <kaje> ActionPa1snip: was that meant for someone else?
[16:01] <whoever> Ari-Yang: nope nothing newer there, after installing laptop-mode-tool8s
[16:02] <XATRIX> ActionPa1snip: yes, but as long as i know, broadcom-wl (the one my Ubuntu's propitary driver dialog) offers me, need some kernel patches or something like this.
[16:03] <tgunr> kaje: I'm only 2000 miles away
[16:03] <pqangel> hi :)
[16:04] <kaje> Hmm, I think I found a solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/252704/i-cannot-install-any-package-linux-image-server-linux-server-dependencies-erro
[16:04] <ActionPa1snip> kaje: sorry, seem so
[16:04] <holstein> kaje: safe? i would say, if you are comfortable doing a custom installation, you should be comfortable manipluation pacakges.. i would try removing if i were comfortable putting it back
[16:05] <pqangel> i'm building an streaming server but i'm not sure how many users can my server stand.. anyone could help me out?
[16:05] <holstein> pqangel: i would say, the network could be the bottleneck.. give more details, and consider a server or networking channels.. thanks
[16:06] <cortexman> i'm having trouble installing VMWare Tools on Ubuntu Raring. it can't find the kernel headers even when they are definitely installed
[16:06] <kaje> That askubuntu solution fixed it.
[16:06] <holstein> tgunr: i wouldnt do anything other than what i know works.. which is in that guide i linked.. no need to "restore".. just make the stick as the guide suggests
[16:07] <hadifarnoud> does anyone know why Linode recommend private IP to be set for a VPS? https://library.linode.com/networking/configuring-static-ip-interfaces
[16:07] <hadifarnoud> I mean in what scenario I'll use a private IP?
[16:07] <holstein> hadifarnoud: i would ask linode support
[16:08] <hadifarnoud> holstein: It was quicker to ask here. it's a general question.
[16:08] <tgunr> all of the guides presume your going to install onto the same kind of machine, i didn;t see anything about making install media on mac for installation on windows for example. I presume if the usb stick looks like an ISO it will work
[16:08] <holstein> hadifarnoud: maybe you can have ssh running on the private, and accessible from only the private.. /join the #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss
[16:09] <holstein> tgunr: do you have an intel mac? do you have the non ppc iso?
[16:09] <tgunr> it's intel mac running 10.6
[16:10] <holstein> tgunr: then, you get the target (normal, non ppc) iso, and make the stick for the target (normal, non ppc) system
[16:10] <holstein> tgunr: they *are* the same kind of machine
[16:11] <tgunr> yeah, thanks, just wanted to confirm to save a 2 hour trip
[16:11] <VictorCL2> does anyone have experience with tideSDK on ubuntu?
[16:12] <publicaffairs> anyone have experience with x11vnc, mine crashes every time i disconnect
[16:12] <holstein> tgunr: take a CD.. burn a CD.. make several sticks.. take the isos and equipment with you to make different scenarios .. i have an app for my android phone that allows me to boot different isos from it via USB
[16:12] <holstein> !vnc | publicaffairs
[16:12] <gordonjcp> hadifarnoud: that only makes sense if you have more than one Linode machine, on the same network segment
[16:13] <gordonjcp> hadifarnoud: you can safely ignore that
[16:13] <hadifarnoud> gordonjcp: ah! got it.
[16:13] <publicaffairs> holstein: that doesn't say anything about my issue
[16:13] <tgunr> the target doesn't have a CD, only USB is possible, he has only one USB stick, or I would have :)
[16:13] <Pici> hadifarnoud: btw, linode's support channel on OFTC is great :)
[16:14] <shah0516> Hello, I'm new to ubuntu. My question is, when I connect to my WiFi router from ubuntu, all other devices are unable to connect to the same WiFi. However, when I boot into Windows 7,(in same laptop) other devices are able to connect WiFi. Can anyone please let me know how to fix this? Thanks for your time :)
[16:14] <holstein> publicaffairs: share details about your "issue", and maybe one of the voluntees can help
[16:14] <publicaffairs> i connect, the server closes
[16:14] <hadifarnoud> Pici: what is OFTC?
[16:14] <Pici> hadifarnoud: irc.oftc.net another irc network
[16:15] <publicaffairs> says 'viewer exited' which is not very telling
[16:15] <holstein> publicaffairs: are you up to date with upgrades? server and client side? what is the server? what is the client? are other servers or clients presenting the same "issue" ?
[16:15] <publicaffairs> x11vnc, os x screen sharing, i don't have other clients and servers
[16:16] <VictorCL2> when I read : install to ~/.tidesdk folder
[16:16] <VictorCL2> do I have to create a folder name d   .tidesdk ??
[16:16] <VictorCL2> or just tidesdk ?
[16:16] <holstein> publicaffairs: could be the OSX server causing the issue, correct? i would try another viewer.. another server
[16:16] <publicaffairs> os x client
[16:16] <Pici> VictorCL2: include the dot.
[16:16] <publicaffairs> i never had this issue before
[16:17] <holstein> publicaffairs: what happened before the issue started happening? a system upgrade?
[16:17] <d4rkn30> is there a 32bit 13.04 server iso anywhere ? or is it just a 64 bit release?
[16:17] <publicaffairs> haven't connected in a while
[16:19] <holstein> publicaffairs: i would try other software.. even the proprietary teamviewer.. other than that, it will be a process of troubleshooting and checking logs
[16:19] <publicaffairs> can team viewer be installed without being logged into the DM?
[16:19] <publicaffairs> i didn't think it could =/
[16:19] <holstein> publicaffairs: i dont understand the question
[16:19] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[16:20] <subz3r0> netsplit yooohoohohohoho :D
[16:20] <mbnoimi> what's best package manger I can use it remotely?
[16:20] <publicaffairs> i was under the impression that team viewer couldn't be installed/ran through terminal
[16:20] <anoop> Windows 8 + Ubuntu 12.04 problem?
[16:20] <holstein> mbnoimi: "best" is a matter of opinion ... what are you trying to do?
[16:20] <holstein> anoop: is that a question?
[16:21] <mbnoimi> holstein: I use ssh usually but I want to use GUI package manager remotely
[16:21] <holstein> publicaffairs: you dont need to forward a desktop to connect to a terminal.. you can use ssh from/to linux/osx
[16:22] <anoop> holstein: No grub shown after installing ubuntu. Directly booting into Windows?
[16:22] <goblin> has anyone an idea where I might find more answers to my .desktop-file problem?
[16:22] <SixtyFold> anyone know how to make a color scheme file to use in something like gedit for example?
[16:22] <holstein> mbnoimi: depends on how you want to access that GUI pacakge manager.. aptitude has a curses GUI.. forwarding x or vnc will let you access anything.. what are you trying to do?
[16:22] <holstein> !grub | anoop
[16:23] <holstein> anoop: ^^ check the part about recovering ... or using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:23] <anoop> holstein: I need to know whether grub is compatible with Windows 8( UEFI)?
[16:23] <mbnoimi> holstein: I want to use synaptic or any GUI alternative for package management remotely
[16:24] <holstein> !uefi | anoop
[16:24] <mbnoimi> holstein: I tried apt-dater but it's tet mode
[16:24] <mbnoimi> holstein: I tried apt-dater but it's text mode
[16:24] <shah0516> Hello, I'm new to ubuntu. My question is, when I connect to my WiFi router from ubuntu, all other devices are unable to connect to the same WiFi. However, when I boot into Windows 7,(in same laptop) other devices are able to connect WiFi. Can anyone please let me know how to fix this? Thanks for your time :)
[16:24] <holstein> mbnoimi: as i said, *anything* can be use via VNC connection or forwarding X.. such as synaptic.. or the curses GUI in the terminal via ssh.. depends on what you want to do, really
[16:25] <anoop> holstein: Can I use a live usb containing ubuntu for reinstalling the grub?
[16:25] <holstein> shah0516: i would isolate that for certain.. run some tests.. i would disable encryption, try a different access point.. try different drivers.. etc
[16:25] <mbnoimi> holstein: I told you I want to use synaptic remotely
[16:25] <holstein> anoop: the links i gave give explanations on how that is donw
[16:26] <d4rkn30> is 13.04 - Server 64 bit release only?
[16:26] <holstein> mbnoimi: then, you can forward X over ssh, or vnc connection to the desktop.. among other solututions im sure..
[16:26] <Pici> d4rkn30: no.
[16:26] <DJones> d4rkn30: No, you get the option to choose on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[16:26] <mbnoimi> holstein: how can I use forward x?
[16:26] <Pici> d4rkn30: You can download it from http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ if for some reason Ubuntu.com is only showing you the 64 bit release
[16:27] <d4rkn30> Pici, Thanks and it was only showing 64
[16:27] <holstein> mbnoimi: i would just use apt-get in the terminal.. or aptitude.. that is more appropriate, though, not GUI..
[16:28] <holstein> d4rkn30: you can see the server x86 version here http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/
[16:28] <mbnoimi> holstein: but both of them can't manage packages.... I want real alternative to synaptic
[16:28] <shah0516> thanks holstein I will try disabling encryption
[16:29] <holstein> mbnoimi: both of those *do* and *are* package mangers.. though, you may not prefer them..
[16:31] <Guest84973> ciao
[16:32] <cortexman> can I tell the Raring desktop installer to use a proxy?
[16:33] <holstein> cortexman: i would just install, and not do any networking at that point.. do the proxy after the install
[16:33] <cortexman> it tries to download files etc during installation
[16:33] <cortexman> and I have been unable to do things like install vmware tools after. this is the only thing I can think of
[16:33] <cortexman> even if you tell it not to download updates, it tries to download other files.
[16:34] <holstein> cortexman: dont get online from the installation
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[16:34] <cortexman> holstein, what do you mean?
[16:34] <anoop> holstein: The link you gave explains the method to reinstall the grub. I need to know whether reinstalling grub will be successful in the case of Win 8?
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[16:34] <FloodBot1> _npiv_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:36] <hellrazor> hello there
[16:36] <hellrazor> how can i see which packages are installed on my current system? i want to have the exact same packages installed on my other machine here
[16:37] <hellrazor> with ppa i use and so on
[16:37] <hellrazor> is there a way do this with apt-get?
[16:38] <holstein> hellrazor: i would use synaptic.. there is a command in the menu do generate scripts etc
[16:39] <hellrazor> i wanna do it on the console
[16:39] <hellrazor> i generally do not use synaptic
[16:39] <holstein> anoop: the link i gave explains it in detail.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:39] <hellrazor> apt-get is to powerfull
[16:40] <holstein> hellrazor: then, i would just search. i too find apt-get powerful, but not very easily intuitive for such tasks. so, when i wanted what you are wanting, i used the menu item in synaptic.. it took less than a minute.. otherwise, im sure you can search for apt commands for something similar
[16:41] <motaka2> hello I have forgotten my username but I rember my password in ubuntu. what should I do ?
[16:42] <holstein> motaka2: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howtorecover-your-username-and-passwordfix-grub-21-error-in-ubuntu.html
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> !password
[16:42] <holstein> motaka2: i might even just look at the disk from a live CD
[16:43] <gazarsgo> where do core dumps go? i tried to enable them in /etc/security/limits.conf with `* soft core 0` but i'm not getting a core dump in my CWD
[16:43] <gazarsgo> i'm on precise fwiw
[16:43] <djono> hello is there a file transfer program out there? every time i transfer a file to say usb drive. the status goes fast and says 100 but when inserted into another medium the file is corrupted and incomplete
[16:44] <gazarsgo> oops i need non zero don't i ...
[16:44] <gazarsgo> woohoo that did it
[16:44] <holstein> djono: grsync is easy-ish to use.. though, if the drive is broken, software wont "fix" it
[16:44] <usr13> djono: Are you un-mounting before removing the device?
[16:45] <djono> usr13 yes I am
[16:45] <usr13> djono: What tool are you using now to transfer files?  (What file manager?)
[16:46] <djono> the one thats in ubuntu lts
[16:46] <usr13> djono: Are you using Unity?
[16:46] <djono> yes.
[16:46] <usr13> djono: Ok, I don't think it is a problem with the file manager.
[16:46] <oblio> i have a new install of raring and would prefer to use alsa instead of pulse, i've removed pulse but i cant get audio output from alsa despite it apparently detecting my sound card
[16:47] <usr13> oblio: alsamixer
[16:47] <djono> its a new system. ive had this problem with every system ive had that is ubuntu based
[16:47] <shh-----> I want to run multiple instances of Skype like I do on Windows. Is this possible?
[16:47] <oblio> usr13: yes, that's installed, volumes are up
[16:47] <holstein> oblio: consider just installing lubuntu, and adding whatever desktop you want, if not LXDE.. lubuntu is pluse only
[16:47] <shh-----> typing Skype in terminal just opens the same window again
[16:48] <oblio> holstein: im confused - lubuntu is pulse only
[16:48] <Slart> shh-----: check if there is a switch to make it start a new instance..
[16:48] <oblio> but i specifically don't want pulse
[16:48] <holstein> oblio: sorry.. alsa only.. lubuntu is alsa only
[16:48] <usr13> djono: You are using Nautilus. Right?
[16:48] <shh-----> anyone know the command to do that
[16:48] <djono> yes
[16:48] <shh-----> the switch
[16:48] <holstein> shh-----: i found this quickly in search.. have you read it? http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/08/run-multiple-instances-of-skype-40.html
[16:48] <djono> usr13 yes
[16:48] <oblio> install an entirely different distribution to fix a sound problem?
[16:49] <shh-----> thanks holstein
[16:49] <usr13> djono: You could install thunar and try it, but I doubt that the file manager is the problem.  You can see though....
[16:49] <oblio> holstein: does ubuntu do dirty things to my sound configuration?
[16:49] <holstein> oblio: you havent mentioned a problem.. you stated a preference that lubuntu matches more closely.. its just a suggestion..
[16:49] <zephyr28> If I have a 64-bit processor, should I ALWAYS install the 64-bit version?  Isn't 32-bit more stable?
[16:49] <oblio> holstein: oh, well - i have mentioned a problem. alsamixer has volumes up, ive tested using just mplayer to play a wav, it detects alsa and i get no sound output.
[16:50] <oblio> holstein: this was previously running wheezy but i decided to attempt ubuntu, sound was working fine.
[16:50] <holstein> oblio: do you have pavucontol installed?
[16:50] <oblio> no
[16:50] <usr13> !info thunar | djono
[16:50] <usr13> !thunar | djono
[16:50] <holstein> oblio: try installing that, and get the application running the audio.. there is some "routing" options in pavucontrol
[16:51] <usr13> djono: See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease
[16:51] <djono> i have the same problem in ubuntu with pcman
[16:51] <holstein> oblio: otherwise, you should search for how to purge pulse.. i havent done it since before 10.04
[16:51] <usr13> djono: Try thunar
[16:51] <oblio> ok
[16:51] <holstein> djono: how did grsync work?
[16:51] <oblio> holstein: yeah thanks for asking, i realized that was a pulse package and then noticed there were a few lingering pulse packages
[16:51] <oblio> dpkg -P'ing them now
[16:51] <usr13> djono: But, again, I think you are barking up the wrong tree.
[16:52] <djono> holstein trying it now
[16:58] <Vec_> How do i delete partitions during ubuntu server install?
[16:58] <tking> form data are not getting to my email how do i fix this in ubuntu files are uploaded in /var/www/
[16:59] <usr13> Vec_: There is a partitioning tool, gparted, and using it is part of the process.
[17:00] <usr13> Vec_: But if you are passed that point, you should wait untill after the install is finished.
[17:01] <smallfoot-> Please put Firefox 22 in Ubuntu!
[17:01] <usr13> Vec_: If you have gone on passed the partitioning phase of the process and the actual software install process is underway, do not attempt to alter partitions at this time.
[17:01] <usr13> smallfoot-: Why?
[17:02] <bodom> aa
[17:03] <usr13> smallfoot-: Are you using it now?  Is there something radically different, cool, or advantageous about it?
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> smallfoot-, Takes about a day or two for the releases to reach ubuntu.
[17:04] <usr13> smallfoot-: Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[17:05] <Vec_> usr13: Gotcha. ended up configuring them and installing as it were
[17:05] <smallfoot-> usr13, it has flexbox, which i need for developmenent
[17:05] <smallfoot-> wilee-nilee, windows get it same day ,they dun have to wait
[17:06] <usr13> smallfoot-: Ok.  Well, you have it isnstalled.   I want this server to share files and a printer. Is there any reason for me to install "Print server" as i understand i can use SAMBA for printer sharing aswell
[17:07] <usr13> !language | smallfoot-
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> FF has a addon that can turn of the ubuntu modification.
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> off
[17:07]  * harshadura found a nice demo on Git branching: http://pcottle.github.io/learnGitBranching/
[17:08] <usr13> Vec_: Yes, install the Print server
[17:08] <Vec_> usr13: wont that be redundant with sambas printsharing thingie?
[17:08] <usr13> Vec_: no
[17:08] <Vec_> usr13: ok, thanks
[17:08] <gordonjcp> smallfoot-: in Windows you probably have to download the firefox installer from the firefox website, instead of just installing it from the Windows repositories?
[17:09] <Guest36302> .
[17:09] <usr13> !cups | Vec_
[17:09] <gordonjcp> smallfoot-: at least, if you want the latest and greatest
[17:09] <gordonjcp> smallfoot-: well, it's the same with Ubuntu; just download the latest firefox from mozilla and install that, and don't expect much support with it ;-)
[17:10]  * wilee-nilee thinks smallfoot-=small frontal lobes
[17:12] <ptcek> Do anyone know how to redirect stdout after pipe? (i.e. make this work: top -b | grep systemd > /tmp/stats.log)
[17:17] <trism> ptcek: that should work fine, are you sure there is any grep output?
[17:17] <raulsh_> there used to be some utility which allowed one to use ftp / telnet / ssh , i think it was under 'places'. what option do i have in ubuntu 12. 04?
[17:17] <usr13> ptcek: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[17:18] <trism> raulsh_: open up nautilus/the file browser and go to File/Conect to Server
[17:19] <ptcek> trism: grep is fine and yields 4 rows every time
[17:20] <usr13> ptcek: if  top -b | grep systemd  does indeed yield an output, it should be written to  /tmp/stats.log  (your syntax is correct)
[17:21] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[17:22] <usr13> ptcek: It may take some time, so...
[17:22] <ptcek> usr13: however, it is not working in bash, nor zsh
[17:23] <usr13> top -b may not be the way you want to do it.
[17:23] <trism> ptcek: yeah seems like there must be some buffering somewhere, I don't get any output through the redirect until enough lines build up
[17:24] <usr13> ... because it may never stop outputing same lines...
[17:24] <ptcek> usr13: this is what I am trying to achieve... processing continuously from pipe and redirecting...
[17:24] <trism> ptcek: if I instead do: top -b | grep username > /tmp/stats.log; I get output immediately, but for something else it takes a bit
[17:25] <SolarisB1y> top in other mode than batch and redirection is likely not going to work properly
[17:26] <usr13> ptcek: But it is not going to contiunously write, it will only do it when done, (I think).
[17:27] <djono> hey holstein thanks for the grsync rec
[17:27] <luke_> hi, i have an acer aspire v3 running ubuntu 12.04. does anyone know how to change the default brightness settings for the screen, currently at startup the screen will be at 0 brightness as in a black screen, i have to use FN keys to get brightness up in order to see anything. ive checked the internet but only seem to find answers for getting the FN keys working however they already work.
[17:27] <luke_> sorry for the essay as well
[17:27] <contrapunctus> !split
[17:28] <ptcek> trism: I can see know it somehow buffers the output. Do you know how to change the buffer size?
[17:28] <shah0516> holstien: as suggested, I tried different approaches. 1) Enabled Wireless isolation 2) tried different encryption techniques 3) disabled encryption. using the third approach, I could connect to my WiFi from both laptop and mobile phone. However, I have noticed that I'm unable to access internet from both devices at a time. Any pointers please?
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> luke_, Startup is exactly where in the process, and does it resolve itself if you wait?
[17:29] <contrapunctus> !netsplit
[17:29] <msh210> Hi, all. I followed these directions - http://askubuntu.com/a/137946 - for moving my mysql data to new location, and then tried "sudo start mysql" and "sudo service mysql start" and got "start: Job failed to start". (Raring.) Any idea what might be going on, please?
[17:29] <usr13> ptcek: You might try: top -b | grep system &> file.txt
[17:30] <jrib> msh210: umm, was it starting before?
[17:30] <luke_> ok so i get the ubuntu purple background loading screen, (theres no promp to login as i havent set this)  then when it should jump to desktop the brightness drops.
[17:30] <prometheus199> hey guys, anyone able to help me out with an installation question right quick?
[17:30] <shah0516> For others i'm posting my query again,  [Hello, I'm new to ubuntu. My question is, when I connect to my WiFi router from ubuntu, all other devices are unable to connect to the same WiFi. However, when I boot into Windows 7,(in same laptop) other devices are able to connect WiFi. Can anyone please let me know how to fix this? Thanks for your time :)]
[17:30] <msh210> jrib yes.
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> luke_, So at the desktop you can see it but the brightness is at the lowest?
[17:31] <genii> luke_: Might try adding into /etc/default/grub the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_backlight=vendor"       and then sudo update-grub
[17:31] <jrib> msh210: did you get any output from your commands other than what you pasted here?
[17:31] <jrib> msh210: I mean any commands, not just the commands to start mysql
[17:31] <luke_> i will try this genii,
[17:31] <Ontological>  I have added "xterm*savelines: 10240" to my ~/.Xresources (which is a symbolic
[17:31] <Ontological>                      link of ~/.Xdefaults"  and ran $(xrdb .Xresources), but my scrollback buffer
[17:32] <trism> ptcek: in expect-dev there is a program unbuffer...this seems to get me faster output: top -b | unbuffer -p grep pattern > /tmp/stats.log;
[17:32] <msh210> jirb: $ restart mysql
[17:32] <msh210> restart: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.13" (uid=1001 pid=5083 comm="restart mysql ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Restart" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init")
[17:32] <luke_> wilee-nilee - it should display desktop but brightness is at lowest, which on this laptop is a black screen with brightness at lowest
[17:32] <prometheus199> basically, ubuntu wont stay installed to my HDD, so everytime I restart I have to boot from my USB, and right now I can't install anything to it. I've tried installing ubuntu, but it wont work :(
[17:32] <Ontological> Sorry about that.  Copy broke badly:
[17:32] <Ontological>  I have added "xterm*savelines: 10240" to my ~/.Xresources (which is a symbolic link of ~/.Xdefaults"  and ran $(xrdb .Xresources), but my scrollback buffer is still very tiny.  Any suggestions?
[17:32] <SolarisBoy> wow trism nice one..
[17:32]  * SolarisBoy looking for unbuffer
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> luke_, Cool, thanks for the more detailed info, it is helpful.
[17:34] <msh210> jrib: $ restart mysql --> restart: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.13" (uid=1001 pid=5083 comm="restart mysql ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Restart" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init") <-- and almost the same (different pid & sender) for 'start mysql'
[17:34] <subz3r0> genii: that does not work. Ubuntu will change the brightness to full after reboot
[17:34] <jrib> msh210: if there was no output from your commands that you used to move the location of the db, then pastebin your /etc/mysql/my.cnf and /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld
[17:34] <subz3r0> luke_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/152356/why-does-ubuntu-reset-brightness-settings-at-the-loading-screen
[17:34] <ptcek> trism: exactly what I was looking for! Thank you very much!
[17:35] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Sounds like grub s being put on the usb's mbr not the computers. Has the computer ever had W8, I'm ruling out a uefi setup
[17:35] <luke_> genii - will restart and see if this works
[17:35] <luke_> subx3r0 - will try this one, thanks
[17:35] <genii> luke_: Might want to visit the link by subz3r0 as well
[17:35] <msh210> jrib the command to move the db was cp, so there was no output. I editd those 2 fils appropriately (I think). Will pastebin; stand by please.
[17:36] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee:  no, it had windows 7.
[17:36] <luke_> i will restart first then do subz3r0 soltion
[17:36] <subz3r0> im pretty sure it wont work ;)
[17:36] <jrib> msh210: throw in the .conf file for mysql in /etc/init/... that will be our next step if nothing obvious comes up from your pastebin
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, are you on the live cd right now or in the ubuntu install?
[17:37] <subz3r0> you can edit grub if there are some issues about the backlight. But if its working correctly ubuntu will change the backlight to maximum after every reboot
[17:37] <prometheus199> but when i was trying to reinstall windows, it said it couldn't recognize my HDD because both of the partitions were formatted as NTFS or some shit
[17:37] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee, I'm live booted from usb atm
[17:37] <jrib> msh210: also look for interesting things in /var/log/mysql (especially mysql.err) and maybe /var/log/syslog
[17:37] <prometheus199> installing to system atm
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, run sudo fdisk-l and pastebin the text, and please don't swear. ;)
[17:38] <luke_> genii - your help appreciated, brightness issue now fixed thanks
[17:38] <Sebo> Hi, Can you tell me which do I need to have installed to let sFTP transfers for users who already have ssh access to the /bin/bash shell.
[17:38] <jrib> msh210: erm, actually there is both /var/log/mysql/error.log and /var/log/mysql.err that may be worth looking at
[17:38] <prometheus199> oh, sorry.
[17:38] <daftykins> Sebo: if they can SSH, they can SCP/SFTP.
[17:38] <prometheus199> and wilee-nilee I honestly (as a windows guy trying to get into this) have no idea how to run that
[17:38] <prometheus199> lol
[17:38] <genii> luke_: You're welcome
[17:38] <subz3r0> luke_: but that cant be. or i understand you wrong :) because ubuntu will set the brightness to maximum after reboot ;)
[17:38] <subz3r0> see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/151651/brightness-is-reset-to-maximum-on-every-restart
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Are you familiar with the limitations of partition amount on a single HD?
[17:39] <Sebo> daftykins: ...it seems at least one can't ;]
[17:39] <prometheus199> nop
[17:39] <subz3r0> luke_: but glat to hear that you fixed your problem
[17:39] <subz3r0> glad
[17:39] <daftykins> Sebo: using what client? sounds like user error
[17:40] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee, no I am not
[17:40] <dieke> hi
[17:40] <luke_> subz3r0 - for some reason mine was being reset to minimum after restart which was rather anoying, its now resetting to max which is fine
[17:40] <reisio> dieke: bye
[17:40] <msh210> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799176/
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Ah, I suspect that is your problem, you can only have 4 primary partitions on a single HD or 3 primaries and a extended, which can have many logical type partitions. In order to help you we need to see what is there, the caommand in a terminal sudo fdisk -l will tel us.
[17:41] <subz3r0> luke_: sorry, so i understand you wrong. Thought you just dont want to have it on maximum after reboot. I think its really annoying that ubuntu does not save the actual state and set it back to that state after reboot
[17:41] <Sebo> daftykins: File Manager v1.15.10 @ Android JB
[17:41] <gxx> Keep trying to make a live usb, and just got some new usb sticks, and everytime I mount it/format it, it keeps formating the volume as sdc1 and not sdc, and unetbootin wont use sdc 1, only sdc, but the drive/volume wont mount as that
[17:41] <subz3r0> "understood".... damn gettin late here and my english gets.................... :D
[17:42] <daftykins> Sebo: confirm their account with a known working client like WinSCP then maybe contact that developer, obviously the fault is more than likely with the clients' use of the program or the program itself
[17:42] <gxx> don't really understand why it wont work
[17:42] <prometheus199> well i only have two primary partitions, but I don't know where/how to run that
[17:42] <gordonjcp> gxx: which OS are you currently on, and what are you trying to put on the USB stick?
[17:42] <gxx> backtrack5
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, ctrl-alt-t brings up the terminal.
[17:43] <subz3r0> !backtrack > gxx
[17:43] <gxx> is what I'm putting it on, and ubuntu is the system
[17:43] <gxx> that i'm current on
[17:43] <subz3r0> !backtrack | gxx
[17:43] <msh210> jrib /etc/init/mysql.conf : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799188/
[17:43] <gordonjcp> gxx: if it's Ubuntu-based then the chances are it's a hybrid image so you can just unmount the USB stick and use dd to put the image on directly
[17:43] <Sebo> daftykins: ...I've got only Ubuntus or Androids here ... so I can not try WinSCP... anyway I thought sFTP != SCP ;]
[17:44] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee ^ and I finished the installation (for the second time)... not going to restart until I get your advice :p last time I installed and restarted it started @ the HP screen then just went blue with a "Not Support"
[17:44] <aRieL_UStudio> alguien me puede recomendar algun mircscript o algo asi ?
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, You probably have more than two, in windows it does not show the boot partition.
[17:44] <gxx> I have a feeling its these pny usb sticks causing the problems, never had this problem with me sony & sandisk usb sticks
[17:45] <Sebo> daftykins: and standard shell `scp ` from ubuntu to that ubuntu serwer works fine :)
[17:45] <daftykins> Sebo: it's a client that lets you use either protocol. it was just an example, i'm sure you can test it whichever way is more convenient for you.
[17:45] <gxx> guess its time to learn dd then to get the image loaded on it
[17:45] <DJones> !es | aRieL_UStudio
[17:45] <daftykins> Sebo: sounds like your user/client needs some education then
[17:45] <msh210> jrid last few lines in /var/lg/syslog ar:
[17:45] <msh210> Jun 25 13:23:05 HCG-Linux-01 kernel: [ 7174.879410] type=1400 audit(1372180985.099:53): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" name="/usr/sbin/mysqld" pid=5477 comm="apparmor_parser"
[17:45] <msh210> Jun 25 13:23:06 HCG-Linux-01 kernel: [ 7176.505663] type=1400 audit(1372180986.731:54): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" parent=1 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" name="/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid" pid=5481 comm="mysqld" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=106 ouid=106
[17:45] <FloodBot1> msh210: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, I would reboot if it does not show a grub menu boot the live session, and we need to see the HD info, so we can get orientated as to what is actually on the HD.
[17:47] <gxx> nevermind, I just used ubuntu's Startup Disk Creator, and it decided to work
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, If you can get to the installed ubuntu from the usb with a grub menu do that this cam be fixed from the installed ubuntu. This may seem confusing I know.
[17:48] <ufoman> hi
[17:48] <jrib> msh210: ah you may need to do something for apparmor profiles to be reread?  not sure.
[17:48] <prometheus199> j[10:46] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, I would reboot if it does not show a grub menu boot the live session, and we need to see the HD info, so we can get orientated as to what is actually on the HD.
[17:49] <ufoman> on my laptop (lenovo Y500), backlight can be controllled only thru xrandr, but ubuntu only uses /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0
[17:49] <prometheus199> hm, hold on ima scroll up and do that command earlier
[17:49] <ufoman> how can I reconfigure ubuntu backlight hotkeys to issue commands to xrandr?
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Cool, this is an unusaul place to run it but lets see what it sats.
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> says
[17:50] <prometheus199> why is it an unusual placE?
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, you have just installed, I assume in tis state t will read that info, ubuntu is set to reboot to the install is all.
[17:51] <msh210> jrib also http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799207/ if it helps
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, We can't necessarily fix it from this state a reboot or live sesson again is needed.
[17:51] <prometheus199> hm
[17:51] <prometheus199> alright, i'll restart and see what happens. be back in ~10
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Cool.
[17:52] <jrib> msh210: I guess line 41 is significant
[17:52] <jrib> msh210: you sure everything was copied ok?  And it's mounted correctly?
[17:53] <gxx> does ubuntu support usb 3.0 out of the box?
[17:53] <skorasaurus3> hi, I am transferring files over from my internal SATA 5400rpm hd to my usb2.0 7200RPM external drive, both are formatted ext3 but I'm receiving very slow speeds, about 300mb/hour.
[17:53] <msh210> jrib, I guessed as much myself  :-)  but don't know what to do about it. Yes, the disk is mounted and.. I didn't check everything was copied, by cp didn't complain.
[17:53] <msh210> s/by/but/
[17:53] <skorasaurus3> both hard drives are less than 70% full.
[17:54] <jaya> Hello
[17:54] <skorasaurus3> the specific command that i'm using is  cp -n -r -p -v ~/Pictures /path/to/my/external/subfolder
[17:54] <gxx> skorasaurus3, I believe its just usb 2.0 being slow?
[17:54] <skorasaurus3> gxx: that seems quite abnormally slwo though.
[17:54] <gxx> cut that, nevermind
[17:55] <babinlonston> hi all , how can i chat from pidgin to this freenode , how to setup the pidgin pls help
[17:55] <gxx> I'm getting about 3GB in about 1.5hours
[17:55] <gxx> with usb sticks
[17:55] <skorasaurus3> yeah, usually it's not that slow.
[17:55] <gxx> yea, I really wish everything was usb 3.0 by now
[17:56] <jrib> msh210: one sec (juggling a few things here and don't know enough about mysql to help without some research)
[17:56] <skorasaurus3> specifically I've moved about 10gb in 25 hours.
[17:57] <skorasaurus3> gxx: i wish it too.
[17:57] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee -- yeah, didn't work lol
[17:57] <gxx> better to just have a storage server w/ GB switches/cards
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, Have you tried a copy and paste to see if the speed is different?
[17:57] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee: in nautilus ? will do.
[17:58] <babinlonston>  hi all , how can i chat from pidgin to this freenode , how to setup the pidgin pls help
[17:58] <prometheus199> k wilee-nilee, how do i do the sudo fdisk-l?
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, So in the ubuntu live session hit the windows key and type gparted, the prtsc key wll take a screen shot and put it in pictures or home imagebin that image and post it
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | prometheus199
[17:59] <skorasaurus3> weird, says my destination is read-only :/
[17:59] <msh210> jrib - now that (with your help, thanks!) I got to that error line, I'm asking in #mysql -- thanks again
[17:59] <gxx> take a gun and shoot it a few times
[17:59] <gxx> thats what I did with my last router that wouldn't play nice
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, I want to see a picture of gparted looking at thew hd.
[18:00] <gordonjcp> gxx: that's not very constructive
[18:00] <prometheus199> uploadin now
[18:00] <gxx> however once I pulled out my 7mm rem mag, the router went byebye :P
[18:00] <skorasaurus3> hmm, looking at dmesg, got a usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71 from the device.
[18:00] <prometheus199> http://i.imgur.com/665xX83.jpg
[18:00] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee:  ^
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> thanks
[18:01] <raducu7890> anybody on xda?
[18:01] <Sebo> daftykins: You are wrong saying that 'when the user can SSH then SFTP is enabled as well' I've just checked this 'Android File Manager' client with another server (Ubuntu Precise LTS - same as the previous one) and now it connects.
[18:01] <gxx> gordonjcp, its how we do it in the USA, just shoot it :P
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Were you trying to dualboot windows?
[18:01] <daftykins> Sebo: i fully disagree with your claim, being based off one example
[18:02] <prometheus199> nope, was trying to replace windows with linux
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Cool, it is gone just making sure. Do you want ubuntu on the whole HD?
[18:03] <prometheus199> yeah
[18:03] <Sebo> daftykins: at least there exists such example... but now I still do not know which is wrong... cause all the client settings was the same except the given server ip address.
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199,  Cool so in gparted right click sda7 and then unmount.
[18:03] <daftykins> Sebo: you're on your own then ^_^
[18:04] <coolack> hello all
[18:04] <coolack> I'm having trouble booting fedora 18 with ubuntu bootloader
[18:05] <coolack> I added them the bootmenu,   but it doesn't load up with the new kernel
[18:05] <coolack> only the old one
[18:05] <ikonia> coolack: then you've setup the boot option wrong
[18:05] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee, when i right click it it doesn't give me the option to unmount
[18:05] <coolack> ikonia do i need to edit it?
[18:05] <ikonia> coolack: if it's wrong....yes
[18:06] <prometheus199> only available options are swapoff, manage flags, & information
[18:06] <coolack> ikonia:  hmm I'm not sure what to put.   should i ask in fedora channel?
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Sorry swap off is what you want.
[18:07] <prometheus199> & how what will that do? lol
[18:07] <ikonia> coolack: first question, is the grub install you are using from ubuntu or fedora
[18:07] <coolack> its the ubuntu one
[18:07] <ikonia> coolack: ok, next question, how did you add Fedora's option to it
[18:07] <coolack> ikonia:  it worked till i updated the kernel in fedora.  I can still lload old one but now new one
[18:07] <prometheus199> did it, nothing looks different
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, If you look at gparted you see key next to sda7 the swap and sda4 the extended, thw swap off will remove those keys so we can work with the HD.
[18:08] <coolack> ikonia: from ubuntu.  i mounted drives and did sudo update-grub
[18:08] <coolack> ikonia: i made sure they are not lvm partitions
[18:08] <prometheus199> yeah.. what's the next step?
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Are the keys gone now?
[18:08] <prometheus199> by the way, thank you for the help
[18:08] <prometheus199> yeah
[18:08] <ikonia> coolack: yes, this is a problem with grub2 and dual boot, the config files are held in /etc/grub on ubuntu - so if Fedora makes an update there is no way for Fedora to update grub, as it can't modify /etc in the ubuntu install
[18:08] <ikonia> coolack: you'll need to update it manually, which is a poor design.
[18:08] <prometheus199> still the red ! by sda5 though
[18:08] <Snype> Myrtti, whatcha smoking?
[18:09] <coolack> ikonia: hmm I'm not sure how to do that
[18:09] <ikonia> coolack: ok, the settings are in /etc/grub - look at them, find the fedora entry and you'll see the old kernel settings, update them and then run update-grub
[18:09] <coolack> ikonia: do you mean editing the text from the ubuntu grub menu?
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, No problem I think we are best here to just delate all the partitions and let ubuntu auto install, so delete all partitions leaving the sda4 as the last one. Right clicks on each wll have a delete option.
[18:09] <coolack> ikonia: ok lemme try that tks
[18:10] <prometheus199> there's no sda4
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, YOU have to click the grenn check at the top of gparted to run the delete after you see the process showng in the bottom of gparted.
[18:10] <iskywalker> Hi!
[18:10] <iskywalker> I have a strange problem, after suspend to ram, the game civilization 4 is really slow, but before the supsend to ram it works fine, I have ubuntu 13.04, radeon and mesa
[18:11] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee - there's no sda4, but sda1 is my primary (430GB)
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, In your image sda4 is the extended partition, it is a container for all the partitions but sda1
[18:11] <Guest96692> Lo all,...does anyone have any info on bluetooth for 13.04, mainly trying to get a headset working for skype
[18:12] <prometheus199> ah, sda2 is the extended one
[18:12] <coolack> ikonia: I see a folder called grub.d     which file in there do I need to edit?
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Sorry my mistake I meant sda2, my bad
[18:12] <ikonia> coolack: look in there and find the one with the fedora entry in it
[18:12] <prometheus199> ah, so delete everything but sda1.
[18:12] <prometheus199> gotchya
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> Doh in the word of homer simpson. prometheus199
[18:13] <prometheus199> done
[18:13] <legion59> Lo all
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, I would delete all of them including sda1, unless you want to try to see if can be fixed. I would just remove all and run a autoinstall if it were me.
[18:14] <legion59> by chance ,...does anyone have any info on Bluetooth
[18:14] <coolack> ikonia:  hmm i'm opening all files in the text editor i don't see any mention of fedora?
[18:14] <prometheus199> autoinstall wilee-nilee ?
[18:14] <legion59> im lookin gfor info for using a bluetooth headset for skype
[18:14] <ikonia> coolack: it won't say "fedora" directly, it should have a reference to scan for additional operating systems
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, The install has a install gu with several choices the top one is just install to the HD.
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> gui
[18:15] <coolack> ikonia: I see files 00_header, 05_debian_theme, 10_linux, 10_linux_xen  10_memtest86+,  30_os-prober,  30_uefi-firmware, 40_custom, 41_custom
[18:15] <prometheus199> so the same installer (the one below the Dash Home on the left task bar) that wasn't working before
[18:15] <prometheus199> so... delete sda1 then run that again?
[18:16] <ikonia> coolack: ok, so 10_linux, 30_os-prober and the two custom ones would be the ones to check, are you using uefi ?
[18:16] <coolack> ikonia: i opened them with gedit and searched for fedora
[18:16] <coolack> ikonia: i'm new to linux lol
[18:16] <ikonia> coolack: did you just read what I said ?? it will not say "fedora"
[18:16] <ikonia> coolack: why is that funny "lol" ?
[18:16] <prometheus199> mk wilee-nilee; deleted them all - now which installation option should I choose?
[18:17] <coolack> ikonia:  so what am I lookin for?
[18:17] <ikonia> coolack: I've just told you ]
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, I would, make sure the HD shows no partitions in gparted. What may have happened here is that when booting from a usb, sometimes the usb and HD get reversed, and the grub bootloader gets put on the usb's mbr rather then the HD's
[18:17] <ikonia> coolack: why are you dual booting a complex system if you are new to linux ?
[18:17] <coolack> ikonia: i check those 2 files and look for what?
[18:17] <ikonia> coolack: why are you not using a linux system to grasp the basics ?
[18:17] <prometheus199> well now it's showing everything as unallocated
[18:18] <coolack> you know why pc gaming and linux is unpopular.  not because of any learning curves.  Since there are many programs and sports in real life with 1000x the learning curves.    but because of rotten arrogant communities noone wants to associate with.
[18:18] <prometheus199> installation time!
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, The install 4th or so screen is the install options, it has a install to HD, something like that, I do this without thinking generally as I always manually install as I have 4 OS on my HD
[18:19] <ikonia> coolack: I suggest you re-access where the problem is,
[18:19] <ikonia> coolack: you're running before walking, and unable to follow basic instructions due to the learning curve
[18:19] <ikonia> coolack: nothing rotten or arrogant about people advising you of that
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, If you don't get the ubuntu boot on the install, don't try any fix just boot the live session, and we will go from there. However I think you will be set.
[18:19] <coolack> ikonai: again i ask i'm looking in those two files for what exactly?
[18:19] <ubuntu2> vghycf
[18:20] <caius_> hi all. i
[18:20] <legion59> looks like time to reinstall!
[18:20] <ikonia> coolack: after you're little rant about how arrogant and rotten the community is I'm going to leave this problem alone now, and next time I suggest you consider if calling people and the community helping you names is a good way to get help.
[18:20] <coolack> ikonia:  i guess that means you don't know
[18:20] <coolack> ikonia: bye
[18:20] <ikonia> coolack: I know quite well, hence why I'm able to dual boot, but as you said "bye"
[18:21] <coolack> ikonia: it becomes a selfulfilling prophecy when you drive away newbies
[18:21] <legion59> Ikonia,..is there any info on bluetooth for skype or am i beeting a dead hourse on that subject
[18:21] <prometheus199> alright wilee-nilee starting it now
[18:21] <ikonia> coolack: no-one is driving you away, you've making a problem calling people names and telling me I don't know the answer, when clearly I do because I've just explained the design flaw, so "you" drive help away.
[18:21] <ikonia> legion59: skype has nothing to do with bluetooth, what's up ?
[18:22] <coolack>  ikonia: this is normal in the linux community.  You insulted me first and i give it right back
[18:22] <legion59> jsut trying to get bluetooth to connect to skype
[18:22] <legion59> skype dosent see the bluetooth
[18:22] <ikonia> coolack: no-one has insulted you, and if you feel you have been insulted the way to respond is not with insults.
[18:22] <coolack> ikonia:  its selfishness and the need to feel superior to other human beings
[18:22] <ikonia> coolack: and again, you've just taken another dig at the linux community helping you
[18:22] <coolack> ikonia: is why linux is unpopular lol
[18:22] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee: "ubi-partman failed with exit code 2"
[18:22] <ikonia> coolack: it's not "lol" hence why you are trying to use it,
[18:22] <coolack> ikonia: i can do without the insults
[18:22] <ikonia> legion59: ahh ok,
[18:22] <gxx> coolack, gtfo
[18:22] <prometheus199> does the USB need to stay in?
[18:23] <LittleJoe> ?
[18:23] <ikonia> coolack: no-one is instulting you
[18:23] <caius_> hi all. i have a small problem with my wifi. it connect and after 5 min disconnect again. it is nothing wrong with my router or the wireless connection because i have tried  the connection on 2 other pc`s  and it works fine. any idea of a solution?
[18:23] <coolack> ikonia: if u can't help me just say so
[18:23] <legion59> Coolack,..linux is for people with smarts,...Are you smart?
[18:23] <ikonia> gxx: that is not a welcome response
[18:23] <gxx> i'll insult him
[18:23] <gxx> lol
[18:23] <ikonia> gxx: no - you won't
[18:23] <Pici> legion59: thats not helping either.
[18:23] <ikonia> gxx: it's not funny, don't do it
[18:23] <legion59> sorry
[18:23] <legion59> :)
[18:23] <coolack> and this is supposeldy the nicest linux community?
[18:23] <holstein> !volunteers | coolack
[18:23] <ikonia> coolack: as I explained, I can help you as I understand the problem,
[18:23] <gxx> coolack, go back to windows
[18:23] <coolack> no wonder everyone would rather use cellphones lol
[18:23] <holstein> coolack: i would be glad to hear your issue
[18:23] <ikonia> legion59: lets look at you're issue a bit more
[18:23] <legion59> K
[18:23] <legion59> well
[18:24] <coolack> hello holstein
[18:24] <ikonia> legion59: I'd suggest initially seperating skype from the issue.
[18:24] <coolack> holstein: i'm trying to triple boot
[18:24] <legion59> so far ive got the bluetooth working and paired
[18:24] <ikonia> legion59: look at pairing bluetooth with your install first, then moving onto skype once you know that's working
[18:24] <legion59> it is seen in the OS
[18:24] <legion59> works good there
[18:24] <coolack> holstein:  everythign worked until i updated kernel in fedora 18.   it doens't load right now
[18:24] <ikonia> legion59: ok - so how have you verified it's paired and working
[18:24] <legion59> im just able to get the bluetooth headset to be seen in skype
[18:24] <legion59> Iko: yes
[18:24] <legion59> it works
[18:25] <ikonia> legion59: "how" have you verified it's paired and working in ubuntu
[18:25] <coolack> holstein: it shows up in the boot menu goes through the process...but gets stuck on a black screen.  the old kernel still loads
[18:25] <legion59> AND as a matter of fact
[18:25] <bxfbgfg> ewerw
[18:25] <legion59> ive ahd it working several time other under 13.04
[18:25] <legion59> but
[18:25] <holstein> coolack: the older fedora kernel?
[18:25] <legion59> i ended up reinstalling
[18:25] <legion59> just this morning
[18:25] <legion59> and
[18:25] <FloodBot1> legion59: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:25] <coolack> holstein: yes the older fedora kernel loads,  but not the new one
[18:25] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee: http://i.imgur.com/amueXdY.jpg
[18:25] <legion59> i knew that the headset would be an issue
[18:25] <ikonia> legion59: I'll ask one more time
[18:25] <ikonia> legion59: "how" have you verified it's paired and working in ubuntu
[18:26] <holstein> coolack: i would ask a fedora support channel about the kernel.. kernel upgrades break things sometimes.. doesnt matter what OS it is
[18:26] <ikonia> it's not a fedora issue
[18:26] <legion59> I varified,..it thru the Pulse audio,...tested it with the test sound
[18:26] <ikonia> it's a grub issue with ubuntu
[18:26] <holstein> coolack: do you need help finding a fedora support channel?
[18:26] <coolack> holstein: no its the ubuntu grub issue ikonia is right
[18:26] <coolack> holstein: the new kernel works with their grub not ubuntus
[18:26] <holstein> coolack: have you restored grub? i would just fresh install a grub then
[18:26] <ikonia> no
[18:26] <coolack> holstein: yes
[18:26] <ikonia> "restore grub"???
[18:27] <prometheus199_> :#
[18:27] <moes> Which jre for 12.04
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Can you give me a picture of gparted again. Is this an apple computer perchance, or has it had gpt partitioning?
[18:27] <coolack> ikonai:  I lol again
[18:27] <holstein> coolack: please lol in the OT channel..
[18:27] <coolack> at he is trying to help me
[18:27] <ikonia> coolack: I don't know why you keep saying "lol"
[18:27] <coolack> *at least
[18:27] <prometheus199_> nah it's an HP
[18:27] <coolack> like most linux users are you opposed to happiness?
[18:27] <holstein> if "restored" is not the proper term, appoligies.. but, you have reinstalled grub, correct coolack ?
[18:28] <ikonia> coolack: please stop with the random attempts at insulting people.
[18:28] <ikonia> holstein: there is no need to re-install grub - it won't do anything
[18:28] <coolack> ikonia: you just told me not to lol,  what is wrong with you?
[18:28] <coolack> holstein: yes i have done that
[18:28] <prometheus199_> wilee-nilee: http://i.imgur.com/eMYRuG1.jpg
[18:28] <legion59> Ill see you all later,..GTG
[18:28] <ikonia> legion59: ok - so what happens when you try to use it with skpe
[18:29] <brijithmac> hi all, I am not able to connect to yahoo using pidgin
[18:29] <holstein> so, fedora grub would deal with the three OS's then ikonia ?
[18:29] <nightdrever> my hard drive looks like this...... http://imgbin.me/view/HVUUYDOR       is it possible to extend linux partion without distroying windows and my current linux install??
[18:29] <ikonia> holstein: ubuntu grub will deal with 3 os's
[18:29] <coolack> holstain,  ubuntu is better,  because the fedora grub is a whole long complicated process to add it to boot menu