[03:38] <jrib> NW2190: use > no?  I use V, highlight whan I want, then hit >
[03:38] <bazhang> Mezriss: you can certainly try; best to backup and plan for the worst though
[03:38] <NW2190> jrib: That did it. Thanks a lot.
[03:38] <Henry> how to build the local area network in linux
[03:39] <bazhang> Henry: please give much more info on what you wish to do
[03:39] <dassouki> Henry, that's a tough question to answer, what exactly do you want to do?
[03:39] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: lol, maybe a google search will do you good :) fdisk allows you to partition CLI, mkfs allows you to set the file system
[03:39] <Mezriss> oh.... it IS possible to force synaptic to install older version
[03:39] <jrib> NW2190: if you do 'vnoremap > >gv' in your .vimrc, it will work nicer (stays highlighted).  Also, #vim is more likely to help with these kind of things
[03:39] <Mezriss> I'm saved
[03:40] <Henry> just use the network to connect to my desktop
[03:40] <barnaby> icanhasadmin: let me throw another at you: I saved my homedir to a ext hd, reinstalled gutsy, chmodded the root dir  to import saved homedir, now when I go to restore perm bits on home it disappears
[03:40] <bazhang> Henry: if you give cryptic info we will give cryptic answers
[03:40] <barnaby> all question-marky
[03:41] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: please describe "restore perm bits".. you mean just running files that were in your old home directory?
[03:42] <barnaby> i replaced the home directory that came with my fresh install with the home directory from my last install
[03:42] <barnaby> and changed the permission bits on root to do so; to import it from my external hd
[03:43] <tarelerulz> Do you have to when You compile stuff do you to do  sudo ./configure  , sudo make , sudo make install ?
[03:43] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: so i don't understand the problems?
[03:43] <barnaby> now when i try to chmod the bits on my home dir it disappears
[03:43] <barnaby> Its 777 now, and whines about it when i restart x
[03:44] <Henry> to share the data or file with my desktop
[03:44] <barnaby> i try to set it to 644 and it appears as all question marks in terminal
[03:44] <icanhasadmin> tarelerulz: yes, but only after you sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:45] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: describe the error message when you restart x?
[03:45] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: i mean did you just chmod +x ?
[03:45] <barnaby> here's waht i do: cmod 644 home
[03:46] <barnaby> waht?
[03:46] <barnaby> should I try chmod +x?
[03:46]  * ectospasm is away: gone sleepin'
[03:47] <bazhang> !away > ectospasm
[03:48] <isforinsects>  Is it possible I am piping network req's stout instead of my net connection?
[03:48] <barnaby> icanhas: I can get that message in a mo if you want me to
[03:49] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: honestly i'd try +x, it's a little odd of a thing... it's worked for me when it shouldn't tho
[03:49] <Azur3> bazhang: thank you, I'm wireless again ^^with my hour or so of using linux, i'm already head over heals for it :D
[03:49] <MidgetSpy> hey all, on a default install of 7.10 my onboard sound worked perfectly with no tinkering. I just upgraded my kernel to <IP_ADDRESS> and after rebooting I'm now getting also errors "No such device". I assume this means that some of the default options on the new kernel are different and I didn't load the module for my sound card, correct? How can I find out what it was and load it?
[03:50] <bazhang> Azur3: wow that was fast; you did all that yourself? congrats!
[03:50] <barnaby> when I change permissions back and do ls -la home doesn't display as dwrxrwxrwx... it looks like this ?........???
[03:51] <Azur3> bazhang: thanks, I'll prolly hang around this channel to see what else I can learn about linux, do you have any sites I should read about the basics?
[03:51] <Henry> how to use the gcc the -o2
[03:51] <jsestri2> anyone know of a music player that can learn from songs you skip / listen to similar to something like pandora?
[03:51] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy and http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/ Azur3
[03:52] <icanhasadmin> Azur3: running into problems is the best way to learn :D
[03:52] <tarelerulz> Have any of you try  gtalk's voice chat at all ? I am looking for something and I am not have much luck compiling kopete
[03:52] <pedrosanta> Hi all
[03:53] <tritium> tarelerulz: why are you compiling it, rather than using the ubuntu package?
[03:53] <pedrosanta> Anyone ever tried Plan 9 or Inferno?
[03:53] <bazhang> MidgetSpy: any reason for that kernel upgrade?
[03:53] <icanhasadmin> tritium: obviously compiling is more fun.
[03:53] <isforinsects> What does it mean when my dmesg is spitting out req's from me to my dns ip?
[03:53] <tritium> icanhasadmin: no, there is nothing obvious about that
[03:53] <MidgetSpy> bazhang: well I needed to change an option and recompile and it seemed easier and more logical to compile the newest stable instead of recompiling my old one
[03:53] <tarelerulz> tritium , from what I read that is the only way to get gtalk's voice chat .
[03:53] <ebovine> I have a Broadcom 43xx chipset wireless card and I'm running 7.10.  Every now and then I get gaps in the transmission.  Anyone else having this issue?
[03:53] <icanhasadmin> tritium: sorry... i'll keep the cynisim to a minimum...
[03:54] <dassouki> icanhasadmin, more fun as in checking ur email with pine fun?
[03:54] <tritium> tarelerulz: fair enough :)
[03:54] <MidgetSpy> I followed the this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[03:54] <barnaby> icanhasadmin: thanks for trying to help. I'll figure it out, even if I have to RTFM. (damnit)
[03:54] <Empire666>  looks like running "nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 1" in wine will mute the sound and "nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 0" to unmute it but there might be a wat to mute it in "gnome-sound-manager --help" or "gnome-sound-volume --help-all"
[03:54] <Empire666> not sure though
[03:55] <tarelerulz> I have a friend use gtalks voice chat and I wanted to talk to him
[03:55] <Shi> hello how do I login remotely to my ubuntu computer if im using ssh?
[03:55] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: well that issue you're having is really very odd. i'm thinking it's probabaly something very simple.
[03:55] <ebovine> Shi: install openssh server
[03:55] <Shi> on Ubuntu?
[03:55] <ebovine> Yes
[03:55] <Shi> k where do I find it?
[03:55] <ebovine> If that's the box you're trying to connect to
[03:56] <Starnestommy> Shi: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:56] <barnaby> yeah, my issues usually are.  I know the light will come on. Night all.
[03:56] <pedrosanta> Shi: System > Administration > Synaptic
[03:56] <pedrosanta> Shi: look for openssh server there
[03:56] <Shi> wow
[03:57] <Shi> i cant believe its that easy
[03:57] <pedrosanta> (or by apt-get... :) )
[03:57] <ebovine> I can make it harder if you'd like.
[03:57] <bazhang> haha
[03:57] <pedrosanta> :)
[03:57] <Shi> okay but to reiterate
[03:57] <Shi> I have a friend who wants to host something on my linux box, so I created a user account on the box
[03:57] <Shi> would my friend be able to log on remotely?
[03:58] <Shi> using ssh?
[03:58] <Shi> or do I need something else?
[03:58] <ebovine> Yes
[03:58] <Flannel> Shi: yes
[03:58] <pedrosanta> Shi: I do think so
[03:58] <Henry> when i type the "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080"it show me "error"
[03:58] <Shi> k using ssh on my windows desktop what command would i use to log in?
[03:58] <Shi> im trying ssh username@ip
[03:58] <jrib> !putty | Shi
[03:58] <firefly2442> My system just did a hard freeze and everything locked up, what log file should I examine to see what the culprit is?
[03:58] <Shi> and im getting connection refused
[03:59] <bazhang> no bot ;[
[03:59] <Starnestommy> Shi: that should work, just make sure that port 22 is open to your server
[03:59] <flyback> OMG THE ANGRY PEOPLE PISSED AT CREATIVE IS UP TO 217 PAGES HAHAHAAH CREATIVE: YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE
[03:59] <Flannel> Shi: You have ssh on your windows box?  I suggest PuTTy.  But, it should work fine (assuming thats the syntax).  Make sure you've port forwarded properly if you're behind a router
[03:59] <Shi> k how do I open it if its not?
[03:59] <Flannel> !caps | flyback
[03:59] <pedrosanta> Shi: check your windows firewall ... ?
[03:59] <jrib> flyback: please stay on topic
[03:59] <bazhang> lose the caps flyback
[04:00] <tarelerulz> I am trying to compile Kopete and I get this error and I have no idea what that means . http://rafb.net/p/dXvIss77.html
[04:00] <flyback> yeah sorry forgot I was still here
[04:00] <Shi> port 22 is open on mu desktop i think
[04:00] <Shi> but how do i open it on my ubuntu box?
[04:00] <joinmeindeath> hi
[04:00] <joinmeindeath> i'm trying to use xen with kvm but i don't have /dev/kvm with linux-image-2.6.24-12-xen kernel
[04:00] <Henry> what?
[04:00] <Starnestommy> Shi: is it behind a firewall?
[04:00] <joinmeindeath> do you have any clue?
[04:00] <Flannel> Shi: You don't need 22 open on the client box, just the server box.  It already is open on the server, you just need to forward if you're doing the router thing
[04:00] <Shi> i just recently install ubuntu on my pentium iii i have nothing addition afaik
[04:01] <Shi> hmm
[04:01] <Shi> k ill try that
[04:01] <Starnestommy> Shi: did you run sudo apt-get install openssh-server?
[04:01] <Shi> just go to my router page and open up port 22?
[04:01] <Shi> yup
[04:01] <Shi> >Starn yup
[04:01] <Starnestommy> Shi: if the ssh server is behind that router, open port 22 on it
[04:01] <smallfry> how do i get the sound working when i play movies?
[04:01] <Flannel> Shi: If you're both behind the same router, you won't need to forward to reach it (just go to the LAN ip of the server)
[04:02] <Shi> weell i also want my friend to be able to log in
[04:02] <Shi> so ild still have to open port 22 i think?
[04:02] <Henry> and i can't use the java in my system
[04:02] <Shi> if hes from elsewhere
[04:02] <Flannel> Shi: right, for that you'll need to forward port 22 in the router to point to your server
[04:03] <Shi> kk thx ill try that
[04:03] <bazhang> Henry: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:03] <Henry> ok
[04:03] <Henry> let me try it
[04:04] <Shi> so open my router at my Linux box IP, at start/end ports 22 traffic type ANY and shedual ALWAYS ?
[04:04] <soulreaper> can anyone help me install beryl onto my ubuntu?
[04:04] <bazhang> soulreaper: it is compiz-fusion now
[04:04] <icanhasadmin> soulreaper: beryl is old and broken, but i'll help you install compiz
[04:05] <AngryElf> I've got my nvidia connected via dvi -> hdmi to my 1080P tv -- the virtual screen is bigger than the actual screen so the menus at the top and bottom are halfway off the screen -- can I fix that somehow?
[04:05] <anteaya> i installed a gem and it is in /var/lib/gems and i am unable to run it, my friend installed the same gem on his server and it is in /usr/bin.  Why doesn't ubuntu put my gems in /usr/bin as well?
[04:05] <Shi> so open my router at my Linux box IP, at start/end ports 22 traffic type ANY and shedual ALWAYS ?
[04:06] <soulreaper> dose compiz have the 3d cube?
[04:06] <jrib> soulreaper: yes
[04:06] <bazhang> soulreaper: if your card supports it yes
[04:06] <Shi> EEP
[04:07] <Shi> I dont think Emacs is installed
[04:07] <Shi> how do I get emacs?
[04:07] <icanhasadmin> bazhang: if it supports DRI, cube will work, if it doesn't, compiz won't even start
[04:07] <firefly2442> Shi: sudo apt-get install emacs  ?
[04:08] <Shi> yes!
[04:08] <Shi> me n3wb :)
[04:08] <firefly2442> Shi: the more the merrier ;)
[04:08] <Shi> hmm
[04:09] <Shi> I wonder if its a bad idea to give a college undergrad in computer science administrator privilages
[04:09] <icanhasadmin> Shi: yes
[04:09] <Tamale> can I make it so my mouse cursor can be 'totally hidden'?   normally the cursor remains on the screen by a margin of a pixel or two.. you can't move it so far to the edge that it disappears completely.  Can this 'margin' be reduced to 0 so that you CAN hide the cursor off in the bottom right corner?
[04:09] <Shi> there different levels of administrator privilages?
[04:09] <Flannel> Shi: The nice thing about using sudo over su is you can give him access to certain things, and not others (apt-get but not fdisk, or whatnot)
[04:09] <Shi> since he wants to setyp a gameserver thingy hes making
[04:10] <Flannel> Shi: You'll need to hand-edit your sudoers, but yes.
[04:10] <Shi> k how do i remove fdisk?
[04:10] <Henry> how to use the gcc just install it and run it ?
[04:10] <thundr2> Shi: As far as installing it, you should also be able to find it in the add/remove menu in Gnome as well, though if you're installing emacs, you should learn to love the command prompt.
[04:10] <larryxu> o
[04:10] <soulreaper> how do i know if my card suports DRI my graphics card is an agp 8x ati radeon x1300
[04:10] <thundr2> Shi: I'm not sure you want to.  It's a useful utility when you need it.
[04:11] <Henry> emacs?
[04:11] <icanhasadmin> soulreaper: yep that'll work
[04:11] <Empire666> Henry: sudo apt-get install build-essentials gcc
[04:11] <Shi> how do I remove fdisk from someone elses useraccount?
[04:11] <soulreaper> sweet
[04:11] <icanhasadmin> Shi: by default they don't have it
[04:11] <jamesish> Henry: it'd be sudo apt-get install build-essential, not essentials.
[04:12] <Henry> got it
[04:12] <jamesish> Shi: are you trying to prevent someone from seeing it on the command line, or what?
[04:12] <Empire666> ... oops
[04:12] <Shi> not sure I just wanna make sure my friend doesnt use fdisk as a mean joke :)
[04:12] <Ava-> root@htpc:/usr/bin# ls -al irw
[04:12] <Ava-> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4420 2008-03-24 11:24 irw
[04:12] <Ava-> root@htpc:/usr/bin# ./irw
[04:12] <Ava-> connect: No such file or directory
[04:12] <Ava-> root@htpc:/usr/bin#
[04:12] <FloodBot1> Ava-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <Ava-> heh
[04:13] <Ava-> wth
[04:13] <jamesish> Shi: you need sudo power to use it, so don't worry, unless he has sudo access. In which case, you're mostly screwed unless you remove it.
[04:13] <soulreaper> icanhasadmin can you run me threw in a diffrent room on how to install compiz and get the cube working?
[04:13] <thundr2> jamesish: I think he wants to give his friend sudo privs but just limited to certain things, right, Shi?
[04:13] <megi> hallo
[04:14] <icanhasadmin> soulreaper: join #compiz-fusion
[04:14] <Aristocles> hi megi
[04:14] <Flannel> Shi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[04:14] <jamesish> thundr2: I think that's what he's aiming for, but that's a dangerous path to tread. Give someone privileges on one process and if they're the kind of person who'll break you intentionally, then they can abuse it to gain root privileges often.
[04:15] <Empire666> running wine is faster then programs running nativly in windows right?
[04:15] <Shi> worst case scenario i hit the power button
[04:15] <travisat> Empire666: not necessarliy
[04:15] <Shi> how do I backspace in emacs? been a while
[04:15] <jamesish> Shi: not if someone's fdisked you, you don't. You should wait for the partition table to be written, or you might be screwed.
[04:15] <brrybnds> is there a startup folder/boot.ini/autoexec/service for ubuntu  I want to run a [sudo] command from the terminal everytime the computer is restarted and have the window/process hidden - is this possible?
[04:15] <jamesish> brrybnds: look into cron and @reboot
[04:16] <jamesish> brrybnds: @reboot is a flag in cron, not a separate command ;)
[04:16] <brrybnds> will do, thanks jamesish
[04:16] <Shi> how do I backspace in emacs? been a while
[04:16] <ubobo> lol
[04:16] <brrybnds> still new to this side of the tracks :)
[04:17] <jamesish> Shi: use vi and hit backspace in edit mode.
[04:17] <Shi> i wanna stay away from vi
[04:17] <jamesish> BAH!
[04:17]  * ebovine casts another vote for anything but emacs
[04:17] <Aristocles> jamesish that was a great answer. lol
[04:17] <Shi> my programming teacher will look at me funny if i use vi
[04:17] <jamesish> I was looking at an editor called sam today. Couldn't work the bloody thing out.
[04:17] <jamesish> It made vi look positively user friendly.
[04:18] <pat5star> ooooo, are we going to start a vi vs emacs war? yeah!
[04:18]  * larryblt ducks and covers
[04:18] <Lainy> Hello, if I want to enable X forwarding, do I add 'X11Forwarding yes' on the client or host sshd_config?
[04:18] <saikor> did someone sully the good name of vi?
[04:18]  * pat5star sides with vi :)
[04:18]  * thundr2 sides with nano :P
[04:18] <saikor> oh dear
[04:18] <Shi> so....
[04:18] <jamesish> Lainy: host, but there're a couple of other flags to enable too.
[04:18] <ebovine> I side with the editore that's always there.  :)
[04:18] <Shi> how do I backspace in emacs?
[04:19] <Lainy> jamesish: What other flags do I need to enable?
[04:19] <jamesish> Shi: something like meta-x then normal erase.
[04:19] <joricj> i have a screen inside an ssh inside another screen. when i try to detach it detaches the upper screen, how can i detach the screen inside the ssh?
[04:19] <Steven1> Can someone help me out with something real quick? I don't want to mess up and destroy my grub.
[04:19] <Henry> what's this mean "<VirtualHost <IP_ADDRESS>>
[04:19] <Henry>         php_value upload_max_filesize 5M
[04:19] <Henry>         php_value register_globals 1
[04:19] <Henry>         php_value safe_mode 0
[04:19] <Henry>         php_flag safe_mode Off
[04:19] <FloodBot1> Henry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:19] <Henry>         php_admin_value safe_mode 0        #
[04:20] <Steven1> Can someone help me out with something real quick? I don't want to mess up and destroy my grub.
[04:20] <icanhasadmin> Steven1: please don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[04:20] <ebovine> Steven1: Help with....
[04:20] <ebovine> ?
[04:20] <jamesish> Lainy: not sure off the top of my head. May be I'm misthinking. Just remember to backup sshd_config before you start and tehn restart sshd with each change.
[04:20] <Lainy> jamesish: Okay, thanks.
[04:20] <Steven1> Sure I guess. I'm trying to follow a guide for making my Ubuntu look like OSX.
[04:20] <AdrianStrays> How do I make a link to my trash/home folder on my desktop
[04:21] <Steven1> I'm currently trying to edit grub to show the OSX splash.
[04:21] <corinth> Where are the default wallpers located in Hardy?
[04:21] <travisat> Steven1: that is pretty easy to do
[04:21] <Steven1> Well I didn't want to destroy grub. I've done that before.
[04:21] <izinucs> !splash | Steven1
[04:22] <jamesish> AdrianStrays: as far as home dir goes, open command window and type ln -s ~<username> Desktop/
[04:22] <Trey> hello all I have a bit of a tricky question
[04:22] <Steven1> izinucs doesn't do anything.
[04:23] <travisat> Steven1: are you trying to change the boot up splash, with the progress bar or how the grub menu looks?
[04:23] <izinucs> Steve1, sorry  tried to get the bot to help out
[04:23] <egc> hi all
[04:23] <niuq> hi there's a way to install ubuntu over a logical partition?
[04:23] <Steven1> The boot splash I believe. I got the login one.
[04:23] <Trey> I installed Ubuntu but it dosn't seem to be detecting my laptop screen any ideas on how to fix that
[04:23] <jamesish> AdrianStrays: looks like the trash folder is .Trash in your home dir, so just symlink that the same way. ln -s ~/.Trash Desktop/Trash
[04:23] <egc> off the top of their head, can anybody suggest some free DNS services like zoneedit?
[04:24] <jamesish> egc: use tinydns, it's awesome.
[04:24] <izinucs> niuq, you mean IN a logical partition ... yes
[04:24] <travisat> Steven1: there are 4 steps to boot up 1) bios, 2) grub, 3)splash, 4)login
[04:24] <egc> jamesish: thanks, ill check that out
[04:24] <niuq> izinucs: mm im confused, i thought you  needed an active partition to load an os, and you can't active a logical partition, can you?
[04:24] <Steven1> Yeah well it said that this particular step was going to change grub and backing up was recommended. So it would be 3)splash I believe.
[04:25] <hikin> egc, http://www.google.com/search?q=related:zoneedit.com
[04:25] <AdrianStrays> :/ I didn't work
[04:25] <AdrianStrays> I went to Create Launcer
[04:25] <egc> hikin: awesome, didn't know about that ;)
[04:25] <ubobo> who
[04:25] <AdrianStrays> Application In Terminal
[04:25] <izinucs> niuq, well.. let me ask you this.. are you trying to create a dual boot and are almost out  of partitions on your HD?
[04:25] <AdrianStrays> ln -s ~/.Trash Desktop/Trash
[04:26] <AdrianStrays> A link appeared, but it didn't connect to the trash
[04:26] <travisat> Steven1: I don't know what you are trying to change, I don't see how grub should effect splash, and splash has problems at least for me
[04:26] <ubobo> ni men shi gan hen me de
[04:26] <Henry> which game can run in linux OS
[04:27] <Steven1> travista: Well I saw a mention of splash in the grub list. So I think you change the splash from in there. Not sure how exactly though.
[04:27] <Trey> anyone able to help me
[04:27] <Steven1> Henry: Next to nothing.
[04:27] <niuq> izinucs: i'm just wondering xD!!,... actually i have a dual boot with linux and windows an they are IN (xD) primary partitions
[04:27] <izinucs> niuq, what happens on install is ubuntu uses the grub boot manager. I you're doing a dual boot then on boot you'll get the grub menu and will be able to choose windows or ubuntu. Grub points to the correct location
[04:27] <Flannel> !cn | ubobo
[04:27] <Shi> is it possible remotely to log onto Ubuntu and use the GUI enviroment remotely?
[04:27] <travisat> Steven1: all that does is tell grub to boot the kernel with the splash option,  the only other thing might be other kernel options to pass
[04:28] <Flannel> ubobo: /join #ubuntu-cn
[04:28] <icanhasadmin> Shi: vnc?
[04:28] <izinucs> niuq, it doesn't matter if ubuntu is in logical or primary
[04:28] <travisat> Steven1: also unless you reboot often you won't see the splash very often.  I personally like seeing text in case something goes wrong so I can see it
[04:28] <Henry>  next to nothing?
[04:28] <niuq> izinucs: so i don't need a primary partition at all?
[04:29] <Steven1> travisat: Well it calls it editing the Usplash(Boot splash).
[04:29] <Shi> !vnc
[04:29] <izinucs> niuq, not if you're dual booting
[04:29] <Shi> hmm
[04:29] <Steven1> travisat: Ah well. I wouldn't understand it if I saw it.
[04:29] <niuq> izinucs: why dual boot?
[04:30] <travisat> Steven1: ah ok usplash, now I know what you are talking about.  I have never had any permanent damage from it but I have had problems getting it to work
[04:30] <Steven1> travisat: It says to use SUM Startup manager to do it. But I haven't been able to get that working.
[04:30] <bluefox83> ok, who knows how to boost signal for a dell inspiron 1525 ?
[04:30] <bluefox83> my fiance's laptop can detect open networks, but wont connect to them for some reason
[04:30] <niuq> izinucs: can't i have ubuntu in a logical partition if i'm not using dual boot?
[04:30] <Steven1> travisat: Ah.
[04:30] <fivehorizons> Anyone know how to disable wireless connection from starting during startup in xubuntu??
[04:30] <niuq> izinucs: well that would be pretty weird...
[04:30] <travisat> Steven1: but good luck sorry I can't help
[04:30] <izinucs> niuq, because in dual boot window is typically installed first and has  the boot partition and master boot record containing  grub..
[04:31] <ijustam> is it possible to create a new tab in gnome terminal via command?
[04:31] <izinucs> ijustam, right mouse click if your in the gui
[04:31] <ijustam> i mean through text
[04:31] <ijustam> like, through a script
[04:31] <izinucs> ijustam, oh.. i don't know
[04:32] <node357> ijustam: http://www.penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/1/gnome-terminal.html
[04:32] <niuq> izinucs: ok i see, so windows makes the active partition and that's all you need to load an os that's in a logical partition xD....
[04:32] <ijustam> oh ho
[04:32] <ijustam> thank you very much
[04:32] <izinucs> niuq, you got it.
[04:32] <pat5star> fivehorizons: in your /etc/network/interfaces you probably have a stanza for your wireless nic (for example, if it's wlan0) set to auto, just comment that out by preceding it with a #
[04:32] <node357> hope it helps
[04:32] <niuq> izinucs: thank you :)
[04:32] <izinucs> niuq, np
[04:32] <AlexHoover> For a network server, for file storage and some simple php/perl script testing, would 6.06 or 7.10 be more stable?
[04:33] <Stroganoff> anyone interested in testing my lightweight but feature complete install script, based on icewm? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741631
[04:33] <izinucs> AlexHoover, 7.10 then if you want  upgrade next month to  the new  LTS verion.
[04:34] <erichj> is flash player plugin package still broken for 7.10?
[04:34] <AlexHoover> izinucs, yeah, thought so. Thanks!
[04:34] <icanhasadmin> erichj: don't know what package you're talking about. my flash works fine.
[04:34] <izinucs> :)
[04:35] <hikin> erichj, for 64bit editions? no, it's fixed now.
[04:36] <fivehorizons> pat5star, it has auto eth0
[04:36] <bluefox83> gnight
[04:36] <Steven1> Anyone on here know how to get AWN working?
[04:36] <r00723r0> Any good guitar authoring programs similar to Guitar Pro?
[04:37] <fivehorizons> and then iface eth0 inet static followed by the network ip details
[04:37] <Tamale> can I make it so my mouse cursor can be 'totally hidden'?   normally the cursor remains on the screen by a margin of a pixel or two.. you can't move it so far to the edge that it disappears completely.  Can this 'margin' be reduced to 0 so that you CAN hide the cursor off in the bottom right corner?
[04:37] <artenius> !pastebin
[04:37] <artenius> !paste
[04:38] <corinth> Steven1, What's wrong with AWN?
[04:38] <_IronSid3_> por favor onde consigo ajuda od ubuntu em portugues?
[04:38] <artenius> !es | _IronSid3_
[04:39] <_IronSid3_> artenius ?
[04:39] <chris062689> I'm having a huge problem with my Ubuntu install.
[04:39] <chris062689> Think anyone could help?
[04:39] <zamnedix> Whats your problem?
[04:39] <icanhasadmin> !ask chris062689
[04:39] <izinucs> the bot's down
[04:39] <icanhasadmin> hm, i see lol
[04:39] <zamnedix> what?
[04:39] <chris062689> I insert my flash drive, and it appears to detect it, but when I run the 'mount' command, it doesn't show up there
[04:39] <icanhasadmin> chris062689: please don't ask to ask a question, just ask it.
[04:39] <chris062689> So I'm unable to mount it.
[04:39] <zamnedix> the bot?
[04:40] <chris062689> But I can alter it using fstab
[04:40] <zamnedix> Oh, hotplug
[04:40] <izinucs> zamnedix, ubutu is a bot
[04:40] <chris062689> but I've been able to mount it before, it just suddently stopped working
[04:40] <chris062689> I've kind of crippled my install, I'm using command-line right now.
[04:40] <zamnedix> try:
[04:40] <zamnedix> hotplug usb
[04:41] <chris062689> command not found.
[04:41] <zamnedix> ok just type hotplug then
[04:41] <zamnedix> then it should automount
[04:42] <chris062689> well it doesn't show up in 'mount'
[04:42] <zamnedix> if you are running ubuntu, it would be /media
[04:42] <Piffer> to get opengl support, which modules/libraries do I need to install?
[04:42] <izinucs> Piffer, what kind of card do you have??
[04:43] <chris062689> But zamnedix: nope.
[04:43] <Piffer> intel... hold on
[04:43] <zamnedix> Well, chris
[04:43] <zamnedix> Thats the extent of my 13-year old intelligence
[04:43] <fivehorizons> I'm still looking for a way to make my wired connection take precedent over my wireless connection on startup
[04:43] <zamnedix> beyond editing fstab
[04:43] <Piffer> intel 855gm ..laptop
[04:43] <izinucs> Piffer hang on.
[04:44] <Piffer> just trying to get navit to compile....
[04:44] <chris062689> Ok I'm back in GNOME
[04:44] <chris062689> But when I attempt to mount it, it says..
[04:44] <nith_> does anyone know how to type the character that shows up as ~V in vim?
[04:44] <Ava-> can someone point me to any docs about makeing gnome autologin after like 3 seconds then autolaunch and application?
[04:44] <chris062689> Unable to mount the selected volume, mount: can't find /dev/sdc1 in /etc/fstab
[04:44] <zamnedix> oh crap
[04:44] <zamnedix> you have to modify fstab then
[04:46] <izinucs> Piffer, the driver should be installed by default.. when you installed did you get an icon by the  clock that mentioned restricted drivers? if  not go to System/Admin/Restricted drivers manager and see if you can turn them on there.
[04:46] <Piffer> ok, i will check that out, thanks
[04:47] <peepsalot> am I the only one that thinks file-roller is the buggiest piece of crap ever
[04:47] <Piffer> hmm just a modem driver in restricted drivers...
[04:47] <zamnedix> fileroller works fine for me
[04:47] <izinucs> Piffer, check synaptic .. search for i810
[04:47] <Daisuke_Ido> peepsalot, yep, you are
[04:48] <Daisuke_Ido> what exactly is your problem with it?
[04:48] <prettyricky> this question is so of topic but does anyone know if there is a HTML chat room?
[04:48] <peepsalot> it crashes on every other file i try to extract
[04:48] <Starnestommy> prettyricky: maybe #html or #web
[04:48] <prettyricky> ty
[04:49] <atnan> Hi folks. Is it possible to specify during an "apt-get upgrade" that I only want packages to come from "gutsy-security"?
[04:50] <jarluu> hi
[04:50] <jarluu> can i get a free shell account here ?
[04:50] <chris062689> I can't figure this stupid thing out
[04:50] <chris062689> All I need to do is mount my jumpdrive
[04:50] <chris062689> so I can reinstall Ubuntu.
[04:50] <chris062689> But it keeps on saying it's unable to due to it can't find it in fstab.
[04:50] <Steven1> Can someone please tell me if I need an entirely different desktop environment to run Avant Window Manager.
[04:50] <chris062689> Steven1: Just compiz.
[04:50] <corinth> Steven1 What's the problem?
[04:51] <chris062689> Which is included in the default Ubuntu.
[04:51] <izinucs> Steven1 did you install it from synaptic  or apt-get?  cause it works fine for me.
[04:51] <Steven1> I got compiz...but I can't run AWN. I click on it in Applications>Accesories and nothing happens.
[04:51] <Zelta> if I have issues about firefox on ubuntu, shall I ask here or in the firefox channel?
[04:51] <Steven1> Both izinucs and manually from the site too.
[04:51] <bazhang> Steven1: the avant window navigator? you need to enable their repos and install from there
[04:52] <fredmv> is there a simple way to record XMMS output to an audio file?
[04:52] <corinth> Steven1, launch avant-window-navigator from a terminal, tell us what the output is.
[04:52] <fredmv> perhaps a plug-in?
[04:52] <Steven1> corinth: What's the command?
[04:52] <r00723r0> Alright, whenever I use my audio driver for a few minutes, my gnome-panel dies off and I can't open gnome-terminal.
[04:52] <r00723r0> Any advice?
[04:53] <chris062689> Is there anyway to create a bootable iso image from Windows?
[04:53] <Steven1> corinth: What's the command for terminal to launch it?
[04:53] <fragged> Mhm, which package is mkfs.fat32 in?
[04:53] <chris062689> Of an Ubuntu iso?
[04:53] <icanhasadmin> fragged: huh?
[04:53] <corinth> Steven1, avant-window-navigator
[04:53] <Steven1> chris: Have you tried alcohol 120 or Daemon Tools?
[04:53] <Odd-rationale> fragged: you mean mkfs.vfat?
[04:54] <izinucs> chris062689, there are programs that will burn an iso in windows.. search for them on www.sourceforge.net
[04:54] <chris062689> I need to "burn" it to a flash drive.
[04:54] <Odd-rationale> fragged: I dont think there is a mkfs.fat32
[04:54] <chris062689> I don't have a CD drive.
[04:54] <Steven1> corinth: Tried that. Got 'bash:avant-window-manager: command not found'
[04:54] <fragged> Odd-rationale, cheers sounds about right
[04:54] <chris062689> Would source forge have something like that?!
[04:54] <izinucs> chris062689, check out Steven1 post above..
[04:54] <bazhang> www.pendrivelinux.com chris062689
[04:54] <chris062689> How can I use Daemon Tools to create a bootable flash drive?
[04:54] <chris062689> from an iso?
[04:55] <cwillu> chris062689, the install guide for putting ubuntu on an eeepc will have the instructions you need (it doesn't have a cd either)
[04:55] <chris062689> I don't want to install the OS to the flash drive.
[04:55] <Steven1> chris: Well you can mount it. Don't know about burning to a flash drive.
[04:55] <corinth> Steven1, sounds like it's not actually installed. How did you install it?
[04:55] <chris062689> I know this, but that isn't for Windows.
[04:55] <fragged> ugh i hate usb sticks
[04:55] <fragged> constantly lost
[04:55] <MTecknology> how do I find the UUID's of certain drives?
[04:55] <chris062689> And for some reason, my linux install is really screwed, so I can't mount it in Ubuntu.
[04:55] <izinucs> MTecknology, blkid
[04:55] <Steven1> corinth from the backport repos, from the website, and also from terminal.
[04:55] <punga> good evening, all
[04:55] <chris062689> So I need a way of creating a bootable iso install image of Ubuntu from Windows.
[04:55] <dissocia7ive> I'm going to download the lastest ubuntu stable iso do I need to choose an iso for my language or what?
[04:56] <chris062689> Is there such a program?
[04:56] <jteacher> good afternoon, all
[04:56] <osphy> lost password and dont have a cd. How to recover from grub ? it is asking password for single user also.
[04:56] <fragged> osphy, read the grub manual
[04:56] <punga> I'm running a freshly installed gutsy server (i386, though my architecture is amd64), and I'm having trouble getting the restricted nvidia driver to work
[04:56] <izinucs> dissocia7ive, no  .. get the 32bit version
[04:56] <Steven1> corinth: But it's not letting me install it from terminal anymore. Only from synaptic and the website.
[04:56] <fragged> or maybe learn2use linux :D
[04:56] <travisat> chris062689: google for free cd burners, there are several for windows,
[04:56] <cwillu> chris062689, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick, look at Preparing the Flash Drive manually
[04:57] <punga> I was hoping someone here might have some experience in this area?
[04:57] <Shadow420> ok I want to add ubuntu linux to my windows bootloader instead of grub overriding the MBR how do that
[04:57] <Odd-rationale> MTecknology: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ ?
[04:57] <icanhasadmin> Shadow4
[04:57] <izinucs> travisat, he wants to create a live bootable cd on a flash drive without installing it on a flash drive.. for a reinstall..
[04:57] <icanhasadmin> Shadow4
[04:57] <dissocia7ive> then it has native language support?
[04:57] <icanhasadmin> hm, i'm sorry that was odd
[04:57] <travisat> izinucs: ah
[04:57] <FloodBot1> icanhasadmin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:57] <MTecknology> Odd-rationale, do you know how to reassign UUID?
[04:57] <cwillu> chris062689, and then use something like daemontools to mount the iso to copy the files where they need to go, or just burn a cd and go that way
[04:57] <corinth> Tried installing it using the add/remove tool, Steven1?
[04:57] <chris062689> and I have to use Windows.
[04:57] <Odd-rationale> MTecknology: nope. sorry.
[04:57] <chris062689> You can't just copy / paste them onto the jumpdrive.
[04:57] <dissocia7ive> I havent used ubuntu like since years
[04:57] <cwillu> chris062689, how do you mean?
[04:58] <izinucs> travisat, and he neglects to put all  the info on one line so others know what he's talking  abot.
[04:58] <isforinsects>  /quit
[04:58] <Ava-> guys I set autologin up under gdm.conf but whenever it autologs in the res is wrong
[04:58] <Ava-> if I just manually logged in before that wasn't the case
[04:58] <chris062689> You can't just copy / paste the files onto the jumpdrive, you have to do it a certain way.
[04:58] <travisat> izinucs: heh
[04:58] <Ava-> anyone know what's going on?
[04:58] <iowahc> Hy, i created a new swap partition, how do i add an uuid to it?
[04:58] <cwillu> chris062689, did you read the link I posted?  it tells you how to set it up from windows
[04:58] <chris062689> I don't need to INSTALL ubuntu onto the jumpdrive, just boot the installer from the jumpdrive.
[04:58] <bazhang> chris062689: I gave you a link as well best read up a bit
[04:58] <cwillu> chris062689, that's how you do it
[04:59] <icanhasadmin> chris062689: although ubuntu actually does install very well on a flash drive
[04:59] <Steven1> corinth: Found out it's not 'manager' it's 'navigator' that I have installed. The message I get is: Error: Screen isn't composited. Please run compiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager.
[04:59] <izinucs> chris062689, your getting bad answers because you are not stating everything you want to do in one post.. there's almost 1200 people in here..
[04:59] <corinth> Steven1, did you enable your graphics card's accelerated driver?
[04:59] <punga> FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia_new <- what could be causing this?
[05:00] <cwillu> chris062689, if you're just wanting to use wubi, then just copying the files across will also work, just launch the autorun.ini file by hand on the target
[05:00] <Steven1> corinth: Yes. It's a 'restricted' driver but I got it.
[05:00] <osphy> Is there any way to recover password without cd and single user asks for password ?
[05:01] <Steven1> corinth: Ok the Awn manager is oddly working now.
[05:01] <corinth> Steven1, Right-click on the desktop and select "change desktop background" to get to the appearance preferences. Then, click on the Visual Effects tab. Tell me which option is selected there.
[05:01] <izinucs> cwillu, he wants to install a live cd image to a flash for  reinstall..  not install to a flash for running as a hd..
[05:01] <Shadow420> I want to add ubuntu  to my windows bootloader instead of grub overriding the MBR how do that?
[05:01] <Steven1> corinth: None is selected.
[05:01] <cwillu> izinucs, that's what I was telling him to do (chris062689, )
[05:01] <corinth> Select either "Normal" or "Extra". That should fix your problem, Steven1.
[05:02] <cwillu> izinucs, (chris062689, )  the first stage of installing to the flash drive on a eeepc is installing the livecd image to a usb thumbdrive in a bootable fashion
[05:02] <izinucs> cwillu, ah ok.. I didn't look at the link.. just was following his multiline posts and put  things together.
[05:02]  * sol1tude|afk is now auto-away after 2h idle
[05:02] <cwillu> which sounds like exactly what he needs
[05:02] <cwillu> izinucs, :)
[05:02] <Steven1> corinth: 'The Composite extension is not available.'
[05:03] <iowahc> Can i somehow see if my ubuntu uses a swap device?^^
[05:03] <corinth> Steven1, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[05:04] <Steven1> corinth: 7.10 'Gutsy'
[05:04] <Odd-rationale> iowahc: type "top" in terminal
[05:04] <corinth> Steven1: ATI or NVIDIA?
[05:04] <cwillu> iowahc, swapon -s in a terminal
[05:04] <Steven1> corinth: ATI X850
[05:05] <iowahc> ok, there is none, how do i specify one, my swap Device has no UUID
[05:05] <In-Sane> Can I get the logs of Ubuntu?
[05:06] <cwillu> iowahc, do you know if the device is already setup for swap? (besides the uuid)
[05:06] <izinucs> In-Sane, /var/log
[05:06] <In-Sane> Can I get the logs of #Ubuntu?
[05:06] <Odd-rationale> !logs
[05:06] <Odd-rationale> no bot?
[05:06] <Ava-> guys I configured gdm.conf to autologin a user.. well it works but when I autologin I get a HUGE resolution
[05:06] <iowahc> ok, thx got it, forgot to make swap fs
[05:06] <In-Sane> hmmz
[05:06] <Ava-> if I manually login the same user that doesn't happen
[05:06] <Ava-> any ideas?
[05:07] <cwillu> Ava-, how did you configure gdm.conf?
[05:07] <cwillu> Ava-, pastebin it
[05:07] <cwillu> !pastebin
[05:07] <Ava-> with vi
[05:07] <Ava-> :)
[05:07] <Ava-> I'll do better than pastebin
[05:07] <Ava-> sec
[05:07] <Odd-rationale> are any of the bots working?
[05:07] <maog_> hey the vmsplice or w/e exploit is it still exploitable on 7.10 on website?
[05:07] <Steven1> Floodbot is Odd.
[05:07] <cwillu> Ava-, by which I meant, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom is the file you want to be changing :p
[05:08] <satu> #semarang
[05:08] <Ava-> oh?
[05:08] <Ava-> I'm changing the wrong file?
[05:08] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: :P
[05:08] <satu> %C7
[05:08] <Ava-> http://inpherno.com:8080/gdm.conf
[05:08] <cwillu> Ava-, ya, although it's not the root of the problem
[05:08] <Steven1> corinth: You still there?
[05:08] <cwillu> Ava-, -> line 3 :p
[05:08] <themime> does ubuntu have a network manager for wifi?
[05:08] <corinth> Steven1: Yeah, just thinking.
[05:08] <Steven1> I belive it's built in themime.
[05:09] <themime> Steven1: how do i access it?
[05:09] <cwillu> Ava-, I don't think you want timedlogin enabled
[05:09] <Ava-> cw: what about line 3?
[05:09] <Odd-rationale> In-Sane: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[05:09] <Steven1> themime: Did you check network tools and network?
[05:09] <cwillu> Ava-, read it
[05:09] <Ava-> bah
[05:09] <Ava-> yeah yeah
[05:09] <Ava-> :)
[05:09] <Ava-> I did it via keyboard
[05:10] <themime> Steven1: i have a extremely basic install with fluxbox
[05:10] <izinucs> Feels like we're in the stone age without the bot.. no shortcuts
[05:10] <cwillu> Ava-, mythtv/buntu uses xfce afaik, which acts a little bit weird in this respect
[05:10] <themime> an*
[05:10] <iowahc> my X always has a load of 10%+ , running Gutsy with Compiz enabled, normal?
[05:10] <Steven1> themime: Have no idea what that is.
[05:10] <Ava-> cw: it's using compiz
[05:10] <cwillu> Ava-, you can tell mythtv to change the resolution in the frontend (its in one of the menus),
[05:11] <Ava-> you tell it what res to use
[05:11] <Ava-> but it won't change the res of your desktop
[05:11] <cwillu> Ava-, alternatively an appropriate xrandr command could be put in a script to be launched at the start
[05:11] <Ava-> hmm
[05:11] <Ava-> no farmiliar
[05:11] <Ava-> not*
[05:11] <cwillu> Ava-, that's how I've got mine setup to work (didn't have the patience to do it the right way :p)
[05:12] <cwillu> Ava-, something like "xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1024x768" should get you started
[05:12] <cwillu> although it depends on the card and such (just xrandr by itself should give you some clue)
[05:12] <Floyd> Is there any Bandwidth limiter for linux? I want to limit bandwidth in a specif application i am running
[05:12] <corinth> How do I activate emerald after installing it?
[05:13] <CVD-PR> Microsolution Backpack usb cdrw driver?
[05:13] <fivehorizons> Anyone here an expert on VNC and SSH?
[05:13] <cwillu> yes, but I'm tired :p
[05:13] <izinucs> corinth, although some have success with emerald. I didn't
[05:13] <Steven1> corinth: Was wondering that myself. I have a them I want to install with no 'Apply' button.
[05:13] <Steven1> *theme
[05:14] <corinth> I know it's something like emerald-blah-blah --replace , or something.
[05:14] <Steven1> yeah
[05:14] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: If you have the theme in emerald theme manager, double click shoudl do
[05:14] <Steven1> I did that. Nothing happens.
[05:15] <Kleedrac> Hey guys, for some reason my 7.10 box has started putting the screen to sleep at about 1/2 hour and it shouldn't be according to the screensaver settings, where should I check?
[05:15] <Odd-rationale> corinth: yes in the run dialog (alt+f2) do "emerald --replace"
[05:15] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: hmm.
[05:15] <dwloetz> need some help with soundcard, AC 97-ICH4, have no sound at all, have fooled with properties and looked in forums to no avail, you are my last hope
[05:16] <Steven1> Odd-rationale: After entering that I got: (emerald:23649): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[05:16] <kitche> dwloetz: is everything unmuted and does sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0 output anything or no?
[05:16] <Ava-> cwillu thanks for the help btw
[05:16] <corinth> Old-rationale, thanks man.
[05:16] <Ava-> ok once auto login is setup
[05:16] <cwillu> np
[05:17] <dwloetz> everything unmuted
[05:17] <Ava-> how do I get it to auto launch a program
[05:17] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: after doing emerald --replace in a run dialog?
[05:17] <Steven1> corinth: Didn't work for me. I think I messed up something. Cause none of the compiz managers are working like they used to.
[05:17] <icanhasadmin> kitche: I'm leaving in a minute, but he may want to reinstall the newest version of alsa and options model="auto"
[05:17] <Steven1> Odd-rationale: Yes
[05:18] <dwloetz> tried that and it did nothing
[05:18] <AdrianStrays> How do I make it so it doesn't show my partitions/drives on the desktop?
[05:18] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: What version of ubuntu are you using? and how did you install emerald?
[05:18] <Steven1> AdrianStrays: Put them in the trash
[05:18] <AdrianStrays> Will that make them stay gone?
[05:18] <Alaydriem> xchat
[05:18] <Steven1> Adrian: Unless you put them back on your desktop I'd figure.
[05:19] <AdrianStrays> It says I can't move it to the trash
[05:19] <Steven1> Odd-rationale: 7.10 'Gutsy' and I don't remember how I installed it.
[05:19] <Optimus55> sup ppl
[05:19] <fledgling047> >:o
[05:20] <julio> #channels
[05:20] <Odd-rationale> AdrianStrays: the easiest way is to use Ubuntu Tweaks.
[05:20] <AdrianStrays> How do I get that?
[05:20] <bazhang> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[05:20] <AdrianStrays> Ah
[05:20] <cwillu> AdrianStrays, there's an option in gconf-editor-> /apps/nautilus/preferences/valumes_visible, just uncheck it
[05:20] <AdrianStrays> Thanks
[05:20] <cwillu> volumes_visible rather
[05:21] <Steven1> Reinstalling emerald. Maybe that will fix it.
[05:21] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: the one in the repos works fine for me. othewise, i really don't know
[05:22] <Steven1> Maybe it is working. I just can't get the rest of the Mac OSX look finished.
[05:22] <Steven1> It called for getting AWN working.
[05:22] <talcite_> hey guys, is anyone here a web programmer?
[05:22] <r00723r0> After a few minutes of sound usage, my gnome-panel freezes and gnome-terminal doesn't open. Any suggestions?
[05:23] <talcite_> how do you figure out where someone's been directed from?
[05:23] <fivehorizons> Is there any way to completely disable my pci wireless card without having to physically remove it from the system?
[05:23] <Ava-> cwillus: do you know how to autolaunch and application when after login?
[05:23] <talcite_> i.e. I have page A and page B. I want to know if someone's visited page B from page A
[05:23] <themime> is there a network configure tool for wifi?
[05:23] <kitche> talcite_: with simple php code
[05:24] <kitche> talcite_: and apache logs that automatically
[05:24] <Steven1> Ah I think I figured it out. Compiz isn't installed correctly.
[05:24] <n2diy> fivehorizons: ifdown "cardname"
[05:24] <Odd-rationale> themime: something like networkmanager?
[05:25] <Steven1> I ran compiz in terminal and got 'Checking for Xgl: not present.  No whitelisted driver found  aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity'
[05:25] <fivehorizons> n2diy: how do i find what "cardname" is?
[05:25] <Odd-rationale> fivehorizons: iwconfig
[05:25] <n2diy> fivehorizons: ifconfig
[05:25] <crdlb> Steven1: what driver are you using?
[05:26] <themime> Odd-rationale: does NetworkManager work instantly? how do i configure it to my wifi?
[05:26] <AdrianStrays> Alright, someone told me there are progams which can be used to alter the workspaces so each one has its own background.  Can anyone tell me one
[05:26] <Steven1> crdlb: Restricted Driver for my ATI X850.
[05:26] <crdlb> Steven1: then you need xserver-xgl
[05:26] <owen1> when installing an app, where should i do the apt-get command? in home?
[05:26] <Odd-rationale> themime: Your wifi is working you just want to connect to a network?
[05:26] <crdlb> that version of fglrx does not have AIGLX support
[05:27] <Steven1> crdlb: OK installing it now.
[05:27] <nikrud> owen1 it doesn't matter
[05:27] <nikrud> AdrianStrays I've heard of wallpapoz
[05:27] <themime> Odd-rationale: correct.  i installed the proper driver, and it shows up under ifconfig and iwconfig
[05:27] <Optimus55> is there anyway to get ubuntu wallpapers to change automatically and fade into each other?
[05:28] <Steven1> crdlb: It's still saying the same thing. Do I need to restart or relogin?
[05:28] <owen1> nikrud: so apt-get will install it in the right place or will some files will remain in the current locationL
[05:28] <owen1> ?
[05:28] <AdrianStrays> Thanks
[05:28] <Odd-rationale> themime: you have the networkmanager applet running in your notification area on your panel?
[05:28] <nikrud> owen1 the correct location. You can see where a packages has been installed to with   dpkg -L <packagename>
[05:28] <Name141> Hello, I am trying to get my Brother Intellifax 1080c to work , anyone know how to get started?
[05:28] <Odd-rationale> AdrianStrays: Or KDE can do that by default
[05:29] <owen1> dpkp -L paint*
[05:29] <izinucs> owen1, or if you haven't installed anything yet you might try Add/Remove or Synaptic as graphical installers.
[05:29] <nikrud> owen1 you need the full actual package name I think
[05:29] <Name141> I found the supposed driver for it online , on the brother site
[05:30] <Steven1> crdlb: I'm going to restart and see if compiz works then.
[05:30] <owen1> nikrud: ok. so if i get it right. apt-get will install my app in the current dir, and i don't need to delete any file.
[05:30] <themime> Odd-rationale: heh, well, im actually running ubuntu-server on my laptop because it only has 128MB ram, and ubuntu was too much for it, and i have fluxbox.  i apt-get install network-manager, but my understanding is that it is just a plain daemon.  do i HAVE to install a gui to use it?
[05:31] <Odd-rationale> themime: it should come with a gui. in a run dialog try "nm-applet?
[05:31] <Odd-rationale> *"nm-applet"
[05:31] <nikrud> owen1 no, it doesn't install to the current dir, it gets installed where the package is defined to go. usually it'll put stuff in /usr/bin , /usr/share , and often /etc
[05:32] <themime> Odd-rationale: not installed, needs network-manager-gnome.  someone suggested this earlier but i was hoping i could do this without installing 1000 gnome dependencies
[05:32] <Odd-rationale> themime: i see.
[05:33] <diagon> I'm interested in always booting to bash and only loading X if I need it for something, could someone tell me where it says to load X up in the boot process?
[05:33] <nikrud> owen1 the flow is it downloads the package to /var/cache/apt/archive , then extracts it to the proper locations, and optionally runs some commands to let the rest of the system know it's installed
[05:33] <owen1> nikrud: great. is it the same when i compile and install an app? (./configure make make install)?
[05:33] <diagon> or after the boot process or whatever
[05:33] <themime> Odd-rationale: is there some alternate, or should i find out how to manually do it and make a script?
[05:33] <nikrud> owen1 no, that's where you do need to think about location. By default, most will install  into /usr/local/<some dirs>
[05:33] <Odd-rationale> themime: I dont know how to connect to a wireless network from the command line in Ubuntu. I do know how to do it in Arch. :P
[05:34] <owen1> nikrud: got it. thanks a lot.
[05:34] <themime> hehe, ok thanks anyway, ill just google it
[05:34] <nikrud> owen1  you can do  ./configure --help , and it will tell you much. Including the installation directories
[05:34] <themime> and if not, ill come back and see if someone knows how, or check ##linux
[05:34] <Shi> I created user accounts for friends and w have discovered that while I installed emacs they get fatal erros/core dumps trying to use emacs
[05:34] <Odd-rationale> themime: let me know what you find.
[05:34] <owen1> nikrud: does it matter where do i put the source files?
[05:35] <sphinxx> hi can someone pm me, i need help setting up partitions for ubuntu
[05:35] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: It is better to ask in the channel. What help do you need?
[05:35] <nikrud> owen1 no. I usually have a directory in my home called projects, and compile in there. The main reason to do the compiling in home is you have easy editing of the files
[05:35] <diagon> I'm trying to tell my machine to not automatically load X windows, but to instead go directly to bash...
[05:36] <sphinxx> Ok, thanks, I hate to sound like a noob but I am with linux, I have a laptop 30gb hard drive, I want to partition for ubuntu - i have the 7.10 alternate cd
[05:36] <sphinxx> i want to leave 16gb or so for a later windows xp install
[05:36] <diagon> I remember I did it before, by changing default_window_manager (somewhere) = /usr/bin/bash I Think
[05:36] <nikrud> diagon install sysv-rc-conf , and turn off gdm. Next boot you will get bash.
[05:36] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: it is a better idea to install xp first
[05:36] <Shi> I created user accounts for friends and w have discovered that while I installed emacs they get fatal erros/core dumps trying to use emacs
[05:36] <Shi> what could be the problem
[05:36] <Steven1> Ah damnit. The toolbars are all gone again
[05:36] <diagon> nikrud: this is actually for a box that doesn't have an internet connection :P
[05:37] <diagon> nikrud: so I was trying to muck about in the files (figure it's somewhere in /etc)
[05:37] <sphinxx> when I do install ubuntu though, how many partitions will I need?
[05:37] <nikrud> diagon ah. then,   sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S30gdm /etc/rc2.d/K30gdm
[05:37] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: install xp normally first. then the ubuntu installer will offer you to shrink the xp partition. and setup for dual-booting
[05:37] <fivehorizons> Thanks for the help Odd-rationale and n2diy
[05:37] <owen1> nikrud: so the way to choose a location is by adding an argument to ./configure
[05:37] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: reccomend 2
[05:37] <diagon> ahhhh that's right, the S->K thing
[05:37] <diagon> thanks very much
[05:37] <sphinxx> because i get confused, intially I see it just needs /root and swap
[05:38] <sphinxx> but then I see it says its a good idea to have /home and there are others too?
[05:38] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: one for root (/) and another for swap.
[05:38] <Steven1> Yeah the minimize and maximize buttons on firefox are gone.
[05:38] <Shi> I created user accounts for friends and w have discovered that while I installed emacs they get fatal erros/core dumps trying to use emacs, what could be the problem?
[05:38] <alan_m> recommended 2, you CAN have home on a 3rd, but that gets things complicated for a newer user. in my opinion Sphinxx
[05:38] <nikrud> owen1 exactly.  --prefix=/usr is common, but in general you should install to /usr/local , it's defined in the file hierarchy standard as the place for locally compiled apps/libs
[05:38] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: a /home partition is a generally a good idea
[05:38] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: But you can even get away with just one /
[05:38] <sphinxx> how big should a /home partition be, if my complete linux space is going to be about 14gb
[05:38] <Azur3> ok, flash isn't working on firefox (7.10 ubuntu is distro)  I have installed missing plugins, restarted firefox, and it says  that i still need to install missing plugins, that adobe is already installed
[05:39] <Azur3> should I uninstall adobe and try again? and if so how would I do that?
[05:39] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: that size i would not make a separte home partions
[05:39] <nikrud> sphinxx with that small a partition, it makes better sense to not have a separate home. you're gonna squeeze something otherwise
[05:39] <sphinxx> hmm ok
[05:39] <sol1tude|afk> hello, somebody knows something abouut grub error 14 ? it appears when i try to boot my 7.0.4
[05:39] <sol1tude|afk> ?
[05:39] <sphinxx> this is a lot faster than forums heh
[05:40] <owen1> nikrud: and if i don't do anything i need to hope that the creator of the app decided to install in /usr/local/ ?
[05:40] <alan_m> sphinxx, instant reply's are awesome eh :)
[05:40] <nikrud> sphinxx think in terms of at least 5-6gb for / if you still want to have a separate. home. I use 12gb.
[05:40]  * sol1tude is back from: auto-away after 2h idle (been away for 38m)
[05:40] <nikrud> owen1  ./configure --help will tell you specifically
[05:40] <owen1> nikrud: easy. coool.
[05:40] <nikrud> owen1 assuming it's a well designed app :)
[05:41] <owen1> nikrud: paint.net (gimp killer)
[05:41] <kitche> !away | sol1tude
[05:41] <Steven1> Awesome AWN is finally working.
[05:41] <sphinxx> if i want to do the /home, i have to go into manual , not guided partioning, on my ubuntu alternate cd?
[05:41] <kitche> is the bot still dead .....
[05:41] <nikrud> owen1 ouch, too fresh for me :)
[05:41] <nikrud> sphinxx yes
[05:41] <nikrud> kitche very. Back tomorrow
[05:41] <sol1tude> ?
[05:41] <sphinxx> is tehre a reason for installing xp first?
[05:42] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: ubuntu can find if xp is installed
[05:42] <warriorness> hey all, what package do i install to get fonts such as Impact for openoffice?
[05:42] <bung> hey i just got a new usb external with a sata drive in there, should i mount with sync or no?
[05:42] <alan_m> sphinxx, because installing it later would wipe out GRUB...and thats bad.
[05:42] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: xp can't find if ubuntu is installed.
[05:42] <sphinxx> but if i have just have a partition ready to install xp on, that wouldn't work?
[05:42] <Odd-rationale> at least not for me
[05:42] <sphinxx> like i would make a /boot in the first 100mb of the hard disk
[05:42] <taurusivy> hi, how can i match '2' in the middle of two whitespace in regexp in awk?
[05:42] <sphinxx> for the boot loader or whatever
[05:43] <nikrud> warriorness it's downloaded and installed for you by msttcorefonts.  ubuntu-restricted-extras will pull in that package, as well as some others that are useful
[05:44] <warriorness> mhm
[05:44] <warriorness> nikrud: thanks
[05:44] <nikrud> sphinxx no need to have a /boot partition anymore, that's a holdover from when it was a requirement for lilo (the linux loader)
[05:44] <Odd-rationale> or if you have an old bios
[05:44] <owen1> nikrud: i don't see info about installation location...i guess migel de casa didn't think about it..
[05:44] <nikrud> owen1 hahahahaha I'd trust that guy
[05:45] <sphinxx> so where is the boot loader like grub stored if theres no /boot partition
[05:45] <owen1> nikrud: i guess...
[05:45] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: in /boot
[05:45] <Flannel> sphinxx: /boot is inside of / if there is no separate partition
[05:45] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: but it wont be on a sep partition
[05:45] <nikrud> sphinxx in the /boot and /boot/grub directories, and in the mbr
[05:45] <sphinxx> oh ok
[05:46] <sphinxx> would this work
[05:46] <sphinxx> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
[05:46] <sphinxx> 	| 			 |		|	winxp ntfs   |
[05:46] <sphinxx> 100mb   |			 |		|		     |
[05:46] <sphinxx> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
[05:46] <FloodBot1> sphinxx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <nikrud> owen1 he started gnome (or was one of the originators, he's a quality programmer)
[05:46] <owen1> nikrud: if i delete a folder from my home, and inside there is an installed app. what can happend?
[05:46] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: please use the pastebin. see the /topic
[05:47] <owen1> nikrud: i want to clean my home..
[05:47] <nikrud> owen1 hm. you compiled it there? If it doesn't do an install, the program will disappear.  That is, if there was no make install command run
[05:47] <Odd-rationale> what man pages should I read to learn how to connect to a wireless network from the command line?
[05:48] <owen1> nikrud: ok
[05:48] <sphinxx> cause i thought there was some weird this, maybe this outdated, but if linux wasnt installed on the first 8.5gb it would mess up
[05:48] <sphinxx> cause of the BIOS
[05:48] <travisat> Odd-rationale: interfaces
[05:48] <sphinxx> so if installed xp first it would take up the first 14gb
[05:48] <travisat> Odd-rationale: and iwconfig
[05:48] <nikrud> sphinxx old news. I have mine after a 50gb vista
[05:48] <Steven1> Everytime I run 'emerald --replace' It fixes the menubars on my windows. But then when I close the Terminal window it fails again. How do I fix it permanently?
[05:48] <sphinxx> man im such a newbie
[05:48] <Odd-rationale> travisat: ok thanks! any more?
[05:49] <nikrud> Steven1 run it with   alt-f2 emerald --replace .
[05:49] <travisat> Odd-rationale: make sure you have the right packages installed
[05:49] <sphinxx> so the only reason for installing xp first is so that i would be able to see linux drives in windows?
[05:49] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: run it in a run dialog instead of terminal
[05:49] <travisat> Odd-rationale: basically you get your wireless to show up under iwconfig and ifconfig then edit /etc/network/interfaces to get it to work
[05:49] <Steven1> Odd-rationale: What do you mean run dialog? Isn't that terminal?
[05:49] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: alt+f2
[05:49] <nikrud> sphinxx mainly so that when you install windows, it doesn't overwrite the part of grub that's written to the mbr and prevent you from booting linux. If you do linux second, it'll automatically add windows to the boot menu
[05:50] <Steven1> Alt+F2 does nothing.
[05:50] <Odd-rationale> travisat: then /etc/init.d/networking start ?
[05:50] <cchild> how do i shred or wipe a linux part by writing 1/0 to it?
[05:50] <travisat> Odd-rationale: I have done wireless for a while but if you look for slightly older debian how-tos they work for ubuntu
[05:50] <wangdaoyu> hello
[05:50] <travisat> Odd-rationale: haven't I mean
[05:50] <cchild> how do i shred or wipe a linux partition by writing 1/0 to it?
[05:50] <eshaase> whats the most thorough way to scan my hard disk for errors?
[05:50] <nikrud> cchild install wipe
[05:51] <sphinxx> oh ok, is there a certain way I configure grub- does it come with the ubuntu cd or is it something separate
[05:51] <nikrud> sphinxx it will be the very last thing installed during the ubuntu install
[05:51] <cchild> nikrud; linux native?
[05:51] <Steven1> Alt+F2 doesn't open anything.
[05:51] <orbisvicis> cchild, cat /dev/zero
[05:51] <nikrud> cchild yes, sudo apt-get install wipe
[05:51] <Odd-rationale> travisat: how do I make ther changes to the /etc/networks/interfaces file take effect?
[05:51] <nikrud> Steven1 you using compiz?
[05:51] <Steven1> Ok I got it now
[05:52] <travisat> Odd-rationale: ifdown [networkinterface like eth0 or wlan0], then ifup [thesame]
[05:52] <Steven1> nikrud: Yes...trying to make it look like Mac OSX.
[05:52] <cchild> nikrud, this will write 1 and 0 to the drive
[05:52] <JanPeter> hey quick question, how do you clean out files from the bin that are under root permissions?
[05:52] <nikrud> sphinxx I prefer to stay in #ubuntu, better to have people watch and catch errors
[05:52] <Odd-rationale> travisat: oh ok. Thanks!
[05:52] <sphinxx> no problem
[05:52] <sphinxx> you are being very helpful
[05:52] <nikrud> JanPeter in /bin ? You do not want to delete those
[05:52] <JanPeter> i meant in the recycling bin
[05:52] <JanPeter> sorry
[05:52] <travisat> Odd-rationale: you can man those to I think to learn them,  in your interfaces file if you set the network interface as auto it will connect when you reboot
[05:53] <sphinxx> nikrud im just hoping you can guide me in case i hit any errors, im installing windows xp right now
[05:53] <nikrud> JanPeter ah,  sudo rm ~/.Trash will get rid of them.
[05:53] <prohna> attempting to upgrade to hardy alot going wrong about 1 hour in
[05:53] <JanPeter> cool, thanks
[05:53] <Odd-rationale> travisat: ok thanks!
[05:53] <cchild> orbisvicis, the drive is dying and i just got the replacement and need to return the defected. so I want to wipe it clean
[05:53] <nikrud> sphinxx it's really simple. Install windows, then boot the livecd and tell it to use the remainder of the disk ;)
[05:53] <sphinxx> when i was running the ubuntu live cd, i did get this 'I/O Buffer error device fdo" or something like that
[05:54] <nikrud> JanPeter stop!
[05:54] <sphinxx> someone told me to disable the floppy in the bios, but the bios on this laptop is really simple, there is not that option, nor is there a floppy on the laptop
[05:54] <nikrud> JanPeter   sudo rm ~/.Trash/*  , we want to remove the stuff in the trash ;)
[05:55] <sk8ball> question, when i hit "shutdown" option on the low graphics mode when X starts with a config/driver it cant use it drops me into a root console prompt
[05:55] <travisat> why with the sudo?
[05:55] <sk8ball> is this normal?
[05:55] <nikrud> sphinxx it's a bug. see alt-f4 for options to add to the boot, all_generic_ide fixes that if my memory is right
[05:55] <sk8ball> i thought the ~root# account is supposed to be inaccessible
[05:55] <sk8ball> in ubuntu
[05:55] <Smegzor> I think I've messed up the permissions in my /home.  Could someone paste up the recursive chown command line I need to restore my home dir permissions?
[05:55] <Tamale> how can i remove all references to a particular cursor set?  I keep seeing the default cursors and i don't want to!
[05:55] <MTeck> Anybody bored? I'm having troubles running 'fsck.ext3 /dev/sdb1' "Buffer I/O error on device sdb1, logigal block 0    fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sdb1     Could this be a zero-length partition?
[05:55] <Odd-rationale> travisat: so currently becuase my wireless device is managed by networkmanager, my interfaces file only contains lo. Correct?
[05:55] <orbisvicis> cchild, just for completeness' sake dd using /dev/zero will write zeros. But you should do it more than once
[05:55] <nikrud> travisat the cleaning of the trash? he has root owned files in there (from messing with sudo nautilus I'd bet)
[05:56] <travisat> Odd-rationale: I have no idea
[05:56] <travisat> nikrud: ah
[05:56] <sk8ball> is there supposed to be anyway to get to an actual root# prompt/console under ubuntu?
[05:56] <travisat> Odd-rationale: I don't use the gui stuff for network as I like the conf files better
[05:56] <nikrud> Odd-rationale yes
[05:56] <Steven1> Ok the next step is to make a launcher for Pidgin and I don't know where it's located.
[05:56] <travisat> Steven1: /usr/bin/pidgin ?
[05:56] <nikrud> Steven1 you can find where a program is with   which ,  like   which pidgin
[05:57] <Odd-rationale> nikrud, travisat: ok thanks again
[05:57] <sphinxx> nikrud is there any site you can recommend i look at for learning how to do stuff in ubuntu, like i dont know much about the terminal commands and stuff like that
[05:57] <cchild> so use the following command "dd /dev/sdb" ?
[05:57] <cchild> orbisvicis,  "dd /dev/sdb" ?
[05:57] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: www.linuxcommand.org
[05:57] <Steven1> That's odd. I created it and it didn't show up.
[05:57] <orbisvicis> cchild, i do not recommend 'fooling' around with dd
[05:58] <travisat> chii: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
[05:58] <Steven1> Anyone know how to use the AWN Dock?
[05:58] <nikrud> sphinxx https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal  and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[05:58] <sk8ball> is there supposed to be anyway to get to an actual root# prompt/console under ubuntu?????
[05:58] <Odd-rationale> sk8ball: sudo -i
[05:58] <travisat> cchild: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb   I recommend /dev/urandom instead of 0
[05:59] <nikrud> sphinxx and that linuxcommand.org that Odd-rationale mentioned looks good, I hadn't seen that one yet
[05:59] <orbisvicis> travisat, good call on urandom
[05:59] <Rob125> anyone have a novel suggestion as to how to speed up gnome?
[05:59] <Flannel> travisat, nikrud, orbisvicis: shred is built-in.
[05:59] <Odd-rationale> Rob125: swicth to xfce :)
[05:59] <nikrud> Flannel ah, thanks
[05:59] <sk8ball> Odd, w/o putting in any password??
[05:59] <travisat> Flannel: hehe shred
[05:59] <Rob125> Odd-rationale: thought about it, definitely.
[06:00] <orbisvicis> Flannel, oh
[06:00] <Odd-rationale> sk8ball: boot into recovery mode
[06:00] <orbisvicis> heh cat /dev/urandom
[06:00] <Odd-rationale> Rob125: It is a good choice, btw
[06:00] <Rob125> Odd-rationale: I've run it several times before, but I'm admittedly a bit of a Gnome junkie.
[06:01] <Odd-rationale> Rob125: If you use gnome, you get the gnome speed... period. :P
[06:01] <Rob125> I don't run compiz, mostly because this computer can't handle it, but I'm naming my first child Gnomebert.
[06:01] <sphinxx> nik, i'm in the xp setup now, doing the partitions, should I just make the partitions for the /root and /home and swap now?
[06:01] <Kcaj2> Hello friends
[06:01] <travisat> sphinxx: nah
[06:01] <Rob125> Odd-rationale: True, I suppose
[06:01] <sphinxx> just to set up the space
[06:01] <sphinxx> this is how i want to do i think
[06:01] <nikrud> sphinxx see travisat
[06:01] <Flannel> cchild: shred works too, and is already installed (and will automatically iterate through it however many times you want, including random, etc)
[06:01] <Kcaj2> I was wondering if there is any kind of way to utilize multiple network connections at the same time? For instance, if you have access to multiple ISPs and the network adapters to connect to them both simltaneously
[06:01] <travisat> sphinxx: just leave enough empty space for linux and let the ubuntu installer guide to free space
[06:01] <sphinxx> ok
[06:01] <sphinxx> :)
[06:01] <Positronic> Does anyone know the link to the website that automatically rebuilds your repositories?
[06:01] <Kcaj2> Is there a way to harness BOTH connections? (or Three, for that matter0
[06:02] <Flannel> Positronic: It's not up anymore, you can do the same thing via Software Sources
[06:02] <nikrud> sphinxx see travisat again. Like I said, you're not really using enough space to make a separate / and /home cost effective
[06:02] <sphinxx> does anyone know this- the only difference between NTFS format and NTFS format (quick) is that quick doesn check the disk for errors
[06:02] <Steven1> How do you move a whole directory? What's the format?
[06:02] <Positronic> Flannel: any recommended Software sources?
[06:02] <Flannel> Positronic: the official ones
[06:02] <travisat> sphinxx: its more different then that but that is a difference
[06:03] <sphinxx> i did quick just cause i don't want to wait
[06:03] <Smegzor> oops!  I meant chmod.  What do I enter to chmod my /home/smegzor folder back to what it was set at when it was created?
[06:03] <Positronic> thanks
[06:03] <cchild> shred vs wipe vs dd ?
[06:03] <Positronic> Flannel, thanks
[06:03] <travisat> sphinxx: you normally don't need to do more then quick, although it is suggested for a new hard drive to do a full format
[06:03] <amenado> Kcaj2-> yes its possible with the use of iptables and iproute2 tools, look into route policy via google
[06:03] <sphinxx> I believe i did a full one on this drive before, so i just did quick now:)
[06:03] <nikrud> Smegzor   grep 1000 /etc/passwd, find the user name on that line. then   sudo chown -R <username>:<username> /home/smegzor
[06:03] <Steven1> What is the correct syntax/commands to move a folder to another folder and overwrite what's there?
[06:04] <Smegzor> ok
[06:04] <pat5star> is there someway to reload the kicker (isn't that what you call the panel that runs across the bottom of the screen?)?
[06:04] <pat5star> after sometime, mine starts to act up
[06:04] <orbisvicis> Smegzor, the general idea is chown user:user -R ~/; chmod -R 755 ~/ but there are some special files with different permissions
[06:04] <travisat> Steven1: mv
[06:04] <Steven1> travisat: Thanks
[06:04] <sphinxx> if I have 512mb ram should my swap be 1024mb or 768mb?
[06:04] <amenado> Steven1-> they  use mv ... try with sample directories you can create..
[06:04] <Positronic> Flannel, how would I find a repository URL for XGL it appears the current one I have is no longer accessible?
[06:04] <Flannel> sphinxx: 1024
[06:04] <nikrud> sphinxx 1024
[06:05] <Smegzor> orbisvicis: do I need to run both of those commands?
[06:05] <Flannel> Positronic: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[06:05] <Steven1> travisat: It says 'unable to remove target: Is a directory'
[06:05] <amenado> sphinxx-> hard disk memory for swap is so cheap..
[06:05] <Positronic> 7.10
[06:05] <Odd-rationale> So if I had 4gb of ram I should have 8gb of swap?
[06:05] <Positronic> Flannel, 7.10
[06:05] <travisat> Steven1: mv -r
[06:05] <nikrud> Smegzor you probably shouldn't, there are a few things that will break if you set them to 755
[06:05] <Odd-rationale> 4gb of swap seems to be the max for me...
[06:05] <cchild> which is best for wiping a disk, shred vs wipw vs dd?
[06:05] <Flannel> Positronic: Gutsy already does that sort of stuff, you don't need third party repos for it
[06:06] <sphinxx> isnt swap only used when theres absolute no RAM left?
[06:06] <sphinxx> and how often does that actulaly happen
[06:06] <Smegzor> no sh*t? :)  I've already broken them
[06:06] <nikrud> sphinxx not quite.
[06:06] <Rob125> travisat: mv -r shouldn't work, no? just plain mv should suffice...
[06:06] <Steven1> travisat: 'mv: invalid options -- r'
[06:06] <orbisvicis> chown -R user:user mybad
[06:06] <travisat> Rob125: lol you are right
[06:06] <cchild> i meant wipe
[06:06] <tarelerulz> I have been looking for hours and maybe days I have yet to see any client that use Jingle voice . Kopete does ,but I can get to compile . Jabbin and could not get to even connect . Everything is old . Nothing for 2008 .  Is there any client that can talk to gtalk's voice
[06:06] <sphinxx> you guys have answer questions that would have probably taken me the whole day to find out on forums:)
[06:06] <travisat> Steven1: sorry mv should of done it
[06:06] <nikrud> sphinxx it swaps out unused stuff to make room for stuff that is used. It's smarter than just waiting till ram is full
[06:06] <Positronic> Flannel, when I installed 7.10 I needed to do it to get hardware acceleration to work, otherwise I had mesa
[06:07] <sizzle> where should i go to find some php scripts
[06:07] <amenado> Odd-rationale-> umm on a 32bit system, you barely could even achieve 3gig from what I understood..the last 1gig is somehow not easily achievable..
[06:07] <Flannel> cchild: dd isn't.  shred is already installed, if you've installed wipe, then I guess they're both already installed.  I've never actually used wipe.
[06:07] <travisat> Steven1: what exactly are you trying to do
[06:07] <Flannel> Positronic: That doesn't mean it's not in the repositories, just that it isn't enabled for everyone by default
[06:07] <nikrud> I always installed wipe, never knew shred even existed
[06:07] <Odd-rationale> amenado: i guess that's true...
[06:07] <Steven1> travisat: I'm moving a replacement 'Pidgin' into the old ones spot.
[06:07] <travisat> Steven1: are you trying to keep any part of the old one?
[06:07] <Smegzor> nikrud: Is there a number other than 755 I should use or will things break regardless of the number used?
[06:08] <Steven1> travisat: I'm just skinning it I believe.
[06:08] <cchild> Flannel, can shred over write an entire disk?
[06:08] <sphinxx> cant wait to get this double boot set up:)
[06:08] <Flannel> cchild: yes
[06:08] <travisat> Steven1: the use cp and delete from the original
[06:08] <nikrud> Smegzor well, off the top of my head you definitely need ~/.dmrc as 600
[06:08] <Steven1> travisat: It's the Pidgin in the pixmaps folder.
[06:08] <Flannel> cchild: and over individual files as well
[06:08] <sphinxx> I was also reading about making separate partitions for /tmp and such, does this actually speed things up?
[06:08] <travisat> Steven1: are you using sudo if its in /usr/share?
[06:09] <sphinxx> like i know on windows there is fragmentation but so there is a benefit, but linux there is none ?
[06:09] <nikrud> Smegzor and looking there  .Xauthority needs 600 as well
[06:09] <Smegzor> hmm..  I have other users that I haven't been foolish enough to mess with, I could look at the permissions there.  Is there some way to see the permissions of each directory using ls ?
[06:09] <Positronic> Flannel, I guess what I am saying is I get an error when doing the update manager stating that the XGL repository might no longer be available as it was unable to download the index for it?
[06:09] <cchild> flannel, "shred /dev/sda -n 8" would this work?
[06:09] <Steven1> travisat: Yes tried to use 'sudo cp pidgin' and 'sudo mv pidgin'
[06:09] <Rob125> Smegzor: if you're running MySQL, you should make sure you also chmod 600 your .mysql_history
[06:09] <Positronic> Flannel, you must forgive me as I am somewhat new to the linux environment as well
[06:10] <orbisvicis> 2³² = 4GB so obviously the max; so why is the cap slightly under 4Gb ?
[06:10] <nikrud> Smegzor and another you'd probably want 600 is .dbus-keyrings
[06:10] <Flannel> cchild: arguments go in between shred and the thing to shred, but yes.  shred -n 8 /dev/sda
[06:10] <travisat> Steven1: ok I am confused are you trying to replace a directory or a single file
[06:10] <Steven1> travisat: sudo cp pidgin gives this: 'cp: omitting directory 'pidgin' '
[06:10] <tarelerulz> any one use gtalk voice chat at all on Linux ?
[06:10] <Smegzor> what about my idea of listing directories permissions?  Is that possible>
[06:10] <travisat> Steven1: ok for cp use cp -r
[06:10] <Flannel> Positronic: Just remove it entirely, Ubuntu deprecates the need for third party repos for eyecandy
[06:11] <Steven1> travisat: The whole usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin folder.
[06:11] <Flannel> Positronic: er, newer versions, that is.
[06:11] <FY1> what is the program that tracks input/output. It starts with like x or z... It will tell you the key that was pressed, mouse button, input from a controller or something
[06:11] <Rob125> Smegzor: yeah, you can do an ls -al
[06:11] <Smegzor> thanks :D
[06:11] <Odd-rationale> travisat: I was reading through man interfaces. But how do I select a network essid and where do I put the wpa password?
[06:11] <cchild> flannel, shred -z- u -n 8 /dev/sda is what am thinking
[06:11] <Rob125> Smegzor: if they're big, don't forget to pipe it to less :)
[06:11] <cchild> flannel, shred -z -u -n 8 /dev/sda is
[06:11] <amenado> orbisvicis-> http://dansdata.com/askdan00015.htm
[06:11] <travisat> Steven1: in the /etc/network/interfaces,  I suggest you google for debian wireless setup or something like that
[06:11] <Steven1> travisat: Ok cp -r worked.
[06:12] <Flannel> cchild: you don't use the -u on drives, that would be for a 'file' file
[06:12] <amenado> FY1 xev
[06:12] <Positronic> Flannel, was that recently an update for ubuntu within the last few months? So you dont have to install ATI drivers and set parameters for hardware acceleration manually anymore?
[06:12] <Steven1> travisat: Uh no. usr/share/pixmaps/
[06:12] <Odd-rationale> travisat: was that meant for me or Steven1?
[06:12] <travisat> Odd-rationale: lol you
[06:12] <cchild> flannel, thanks for your help
[06:12] <Odd-rationale> travisat: lol ok
[06:12] <travisat> Steven1: is everything all right now?
[06:13] <ddalton> Hi im blind so can't follow this. Can you please join ##ddalton? anyway how do I connect to my wiless network with my wiless card? I believe ubuntu recognises it.
[06:13] <Flannel> Positronic: ATI drivers don't give you XGL.  I have no idea with regards to the current driver situation,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:13] <Smegzor> how do I list my command history showing only chmod commands I've entered?  My history is HUGE.
[06:13] <Smegzor> I want to see my original chmod line that caused all the mess.
[06:14] <orbisvicis> Smegzor, cat ~/.bash_history | grep
[06:14] <cchild> flannel, I have one more question: what is "--random-source" and the -s --size for?
[06:14] <nikrud> Smegzor grep chmod ~/.bash_history
[06:14] <Flannel> Smegzor: cat ~/.bash_history | grep chmod | less
[06:14] <orbisvicis> Smegzor, it might also be in /root/.bash_history
[06:14] <Positronic> Flannel, oh ok sorry I must have been confusing that with fglrx or something...
[06:14] <Smegzor> thanks
[06:14] <nikrud> cat to grep?  ewww :)
[06:15] <orbisvicis> nikrud, bad habit ; )
[06:15] <troxor> for all the users of ntop out there: where did the "-S" option go in recent (>2.0) versions of ntop? is there a similar option that google isn't telling me about?
[06:15] <Rob125> nikrud: whoa, hold on. please explain? why bad?
[06:15] <Smegzor> here it is!  chmod 0700 /home/smegzor   (is that bad?)
[06:15] <sphinxx> is having a 5gb /home and a 9gb /root not good?
[06:15] <nikrud> Rob125 it's an aesthetic thing :)
[06:15] <orbisvicis> way back in the days when i used rpm-websites to install xine: library by .so file ; )
[06:15] <nikrud> Smegzor no, that's not terribly bad
[06:15] <Rob125> nikrud: how would you do it, then?
[06:15] <nikrud> Rob125   grep chmod ~/.bash_history
[06:16] <Rob125> Smegzor, you should be able to fix that pretty easy, since you didn't do it recursively
[06:16] <Rob125> ahh
[06:16] <Flannel> cchild: I don't see a --random-source on mine, but it probably is a place where you can provide the source of the random data, incase you wanted to use something more random.  And --size is not useful in this situation either, but its allowing you to overwrite an arbitrarily sized chunk
[06:16] <Smegzor> yeah I wasn't sure about that..  so just do the same with 755 ?
[06:17] <cchild> Ok Flannel, thanks again
[06:17] <nikrud> Smegzor 700 is not something that will break your system, it only prevents users other than yourself reading what's in there. Some people do that on principle
[06:17] <picharras> hola que tal
[06:17] <Smegzor> thats why I did it in the first place.  But then I noticed broken stuff in gnome
[06:17] <picharras> alguien habla español por aca?
[06:17] <Flannel> picharras: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:18] <Smegzor> probably just my timing, noticing things after doing that.
[06:18] <travisat> I prefer to only have files I want to execute with the 7 chmod
[06:18] <nikrud> Smegzor hm. Maybe there's something new that I'm missing. I haven't done that in a few years.
[06:18] <Steven1> travisat: Ok I am now trying to do the sounds folder now and when I move the folder into /usr/share/sounds/ The folder is empty! What gives?
[06:18] <aoshi> How does updating to a new version of ubuntu work?
[06:19] <travisat> Steven1: when you mv directories the old directory dissappears, cp leaves old files in place...at least this is what I remember
[06:19] <Rob125> Aoshi: It works marvelously -- but how do you mean? Do you need to know how to do it? What version are you using, and what do you want to upgrade to?
[06:20] <aoshi> 7.10
[06:20] <Steven1> travisat: But when I use mv. It says unable to remove target: Is a directory.
[06:20] <nikrud> aoshi when a release is made, you will be asked if you want to upgrade to it. You can force  a check  with   sudo update-manager -c
[06:20] <travisat> Steven1: ok and when you cp -r the /usr/share/sounds folder was empty correct?
[06:20] <aoshi> Ah
[06:21] <Steven1> travisat: The destination folder was empty yes.
[06:21] <aoshi> so in 23 days
[06:21] <nikrud> :)
[06:21] <aoshi> how do I go about updating to 8.04?
[06:21] <travisat> Steven1: you have no files in /usr/share/sounds or in /usr/share/sounds/pidgin?
[06:21] <coldboot> Why is this not in gutsy?: libgtkglextmm1-dev not in gutsy? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&keywords=libgtkglextmm1-dev
[06:21] <Trey> hey is anyone able to help me with a boot issue
[06:21] <Steven1> Such a headache. Why don't they just make it like Windows and let you just drag and drop it?
[06:21] <Rob125> Aoshi -- when you run update manager, it'll say 'A new distribution is available. Upgrade?'
[06:21] <aoshi> Okay
[06:21] <nikrud> aoshi now? Know how to fix broken packages? If the answer is yes, ask how on #ubuntu+1
[06:21] <aoshi> Cool :D
[06:22] <orbisvicis> aoshi, ever so carefully: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[06:22] <Trey> guys i can't to to my ubuntu logon screen
[06:22] <Rob125> Can't see it, trey?
[06:23] <Trey> ya
[06:23] <orbisvicis> Trey, why ?
[06:23] <Trey> the screen just turns off
[06:23] <nikrud> heh. If Trey knew why, he wouldn't be here asking :)
[06:23] <Trey> i have be trying some fixes from the forms but no luck
[06:23] <Trey> lol
[06:23] <orbisvicis> no but he should provide more info ; )
[06:23] <owen1> what folders should i keep for a backup?
[06:23] <Trey> i know its got to do with my video and the splash thats all
[06:23] <Rob125> Trey: by 'turns off', do you mean it flickers and then goes to the terminal?  Why /etc?
[06:25] <JDSBlueDevl> hi, I'm having problems with encrypted DVD playback.  I have done literally EVERYTHING to try to get it to work
[06:25] <JDSBlueDevl> I'm using Gutsy, and yes, I have the medibuntu repos in my sources.list file
[06:25] <travisat> Steven1: negative
[06:25] <nikrud> owen1 you're welcome. To be honest it's nice to have someone who only needs to ask a few questions, and fills in the blanks :)
[06:25] <nikrud> Rob125 well, I usually make some custom changes there, so I back up the whole thing on principle
[06:25] <Steven1> travisat: I sent another one
[06:26] <travisat> Steven1: in irc or pidgin
[06:26] <Steven1> travisat: pidgin on this room.
[06:26] <travisat> Steven1: if pidgin you are sending to somebody else
[06:26] <Trey> i also can't use ctrl alt f1 it dose nothing
[06:26] <Steven1> travisat: I clicked on your name and clicked IM.
[06:27] <coldboot> Does anyone know why libgtkglextmm1-dev is not in gutsy/
[06:27] <tchaska> Anybody knows a program to show the statistics of internet connection only? (exclude the local network traffic)
[06:27] <travisat> Steven1: hehe well I have no im, you have to /msg me in irc,  and I am about to go to sleep.  I think that you don't have to install themes in /usr but you can do it in your home directory.  I am sure somebody else can help you
[06:27] <davi1> hello good people
[06:27] <Steven1> travisat: What I said was (10:22:46 PM) Steven1: No no no. I'm done with the Pidgin. I'm trying to move the MacOSX_Sounds to /usr/share/sounds
[06:28] <Steven1> Damn
[06:28] <nikrud> coldboot do you have the universe repositories enabled? It's there in mine (hardy, but still)
[06:28] <Steven1> So can someone tell me how to move the sounds off my Desktop and into usr/share/sounds ?
[06:29] <nikrud> Steven1   sudo mv ~/Desktop/<file> /usr/share/sounds
[06:29] <davi1> hi there, im new to linux and i just installed ubuntu but my audio is not working, any ideas?
[06:29] <nikrud> Steven1 to write to anywhere outside of /home/<username> you need admin privileges, sudo gives those
[06:29] <Erickj92> i just installed the dancer-ircd doc, buy dont know there they are isntalled to
[06:30] <owen1> nikrud: and on my fresh ubuntu i can paste all the folders and i am done?
[06:30] <nikrud> Erickj92 /usr/share/doc/<packagename>
[06:30] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: Are you going through that cam4lin tutorial?
[06:30] <Erickj92> ok, thank you
[06:30] <Odd-rationale> *mac4lin
[06:30] <nikrud> owen1 erm, the stuff out of your home? yes
[06:31] <owen1> nikrud: and what do i do with etc and the output of dgkg?
[06:31] <Steven1> nikrud: It still failed. Says It's a directory. Not sheet!
[06:31] <Trey> ok i have some more info
[06:32] <nikrud> owen1 the /etc you might not need to do anything with, unless you know what you changed there.   for the --get-selections, you'd run:    dpkg --set-selections < packagelist && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade to restore your package installs.
[06:32] <nikrud> Steven1 what exact command line did you use?
[06:33] <nikrud> owen1 dpkg --get-selections > packagelist creates that list for you
[06:33] <Steven1> nikrud: sudo mv ~/Desktop/Mac4Lin_v0.4/Sounds/MacOSX_Sounds /usr/share/sounds
[06:34] <davi1> any1 have an idea on how to get my audio working?
[06:34] <owen1> nikrud: so packagelist is a file i create in my old machine, and i import this file to my new machine with the < ?
[06:34] <Trey> ok i did sudo lspci | grep VGA and got 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corperation GeForce 8600M GS (rev a1)
[06:35] <nikrud> owen1 exactly.
[06:35] <Trey> then i did grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf and got the list with a bunch of drivers
[06:35] <JDSBlueDevl> hi, I'm having problems with encrypted DVD playback.  I have done literally EVERYTHING to try to get it to work.  I'm using Gutsy, and yes, I have the medibuntu repos in my sources.list file
[06:35] <Trey> that help at all
[06:36] <nikrud> Steven1 that should work, moving MacOSX_Sounds to /usr/share/sounds . I was sure, and did it with a couple test dirs just now
[06:36] <Stroganoff> JDSBlueDevl, you have libdvdcss2 installed? :D
[06:36] <owen1> nikrud: ubuntu is like Mac, but awesome.
[06:36] <Odd-rationale> JDSBlueDevl: what media player are you using?
[06:36] <ethan961> !dvd | JDSBlueDevil
[06:37] <JDSBlueDevl> yes
[06:37] <JDSBlueDevl> Totem
[06:37] <ethan961> !DVD
[06:37] <Steven1> nikrud: Ok saw your response.
[06:37] <robm> Hello, I recently added a new harddrive (formated ext3) and made a new folder that I shared on samba. However previous shares that I had are not visible from windows machines anymore. Additionally, this new share slows down the windows clients and I never had problems until I mounted this new hd and created the share
[06:37] <Henry> what's the linux kernal?
[06:37] <bazhang> JDSBlueDevl: hd-dvd or blu-ray
[06:37] <JDSBlueDevl> regular DVD
[06:37] <Odd-rationale> JDSBlueDevl: totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[06:37] <JDSBlueDevl> totem-xine
[06:37] <Steven1> nikrud: mv: cannot stat `/home/steven/Desktop/Mac4Lin_v0.4/Sounds/MacOSX_Sounds': No such file or directory
[06:38] <Henry> need help what's the linux kernal?
[06:38] <nikrud> Steven1 ok, it's saying there's an error in that line. Try cd ~/home/steven/Desktop/Mac4Lin_v0.4 /Sounds , do you get there?
[06:38] <Gumby> Steven1: then perhaps that directory doesnt exist?
[06:38] <nikrud> Steven1 without the space in the line
[06:39] <bazhang> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel Henry
[06:39] <owen1> what is virtual hard disk (in virtualbox setup)?
[06:39] <Steven1> nikrud: Good idea. Just about to try that.
[06:39] <nikrud> owen1 a file that acts like a partition
[06:39] <Odd-rationale> Henry: every OS needs a kernel. the Linux kernel is a kernel deveolped by Linus Torvalds and is open source.
[06:40] <Henry> ok thanks
[06:40] <Trey> is my issue not interesting enough for you guys
[06:40] <owen1> nikrud: should i create new one? (first time using virtualbox)
[06:40] <bazhang> Trey: what is your issue
[06:40] <Trey> I can't get ubuntu to boot graphicly
[06:41] <nikrud> owen1 go thru the virtualbox installation instructions. And yes, if you don't have a virtual disk you won't have anywhere to install the virtual os to  :)
[06:41] <Odd-rationale> Trey: Livecd?
[06:41] <bazhang> Trey: did you add acpi=off as a boot parameter
[06:41] <owen1> nikrud: and why would someone use existing one. it will override the content with new os, right?
[06:41] <Trey> no install but cd wouldn't work either
[06:41] <nikrud> Trey It is, but I'm not good with those. bazhang is a master
[06:41] <nikrud> owen1 yes, just like any install would
[06:41] <Odd-rationale> Trey: have you tried configurin your xserver to use the vesa drivers?
[06:41] <Steven1> Since I can just point my sounds to anywhere. Do I really have to move my sounds to usr/share/sounds?
[06:41] <owen1> nikrud: ok. thanks again..
[06:41] <Trey> not yet baz
[06:41] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: no
[06:42] <Trey> yes odd
[06:42] <Steven1> Odd-rationale: Ah thanks.
[06:42] <nikrud> Steven1 no, anywhere you like. ~/.sounds is a reasonable place
[06:42] <bazhang> Trey: what about the alternate cd? have you given that a shot--it sometimes works when the livecd chokes and allows you to install the drivers at the finish of installation
[06:43] <Steven1> Wow that could have helped sooner. Lol
[06:43] <Trey> no but i will try that too
[06:43]  * nikrud thinks that bazhang is shaking a virtual fist at him
[06:43] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: here's a dirty trick that is not really adviseable. in terminal do "gksudo nautilus" and move your file normally. But be careful!
[06:43] <Trey> um which one do i add acpi to
[06:43] <Trey> the root or the kernal
[06:43] <bazhang> me give nikrud his missing 'c' ;]
[06:43] <Steven1> gksudo nautilus
[06:43] <Steven1> I don't think I have that
[06:44] <arvind_> can apt-get made be read a list of sources from a file???
[06:44] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: you don't have nautilus?
[06:44] <Steven1> Ah ok I got it.
[06:44] <nikrud> I'm on a weight loss program. I figured a little virtual weight loss couldn't hurt
[06:44] <Steven1> Thought it was something that came with KDE
[06:44] <Rob125> Stupid question: Difference between gksu and gksudo?
[06:44] <crdlb> Rob125: none
[06:44] <Odd-rationale> Rob125: same
[06:44] <Trey> bazhang: where do i add the acpi root or kernal
[06:44] <Rob125> thanks.
[06:44] <crdlb> one is a symlink to the other
[06:44] <nikrud> Rob125 nothing anymore, gksduo is a link to gksu
[06:44] <robm> Hello, I recently added a new harddrive (formated ext3) and made a new folder that I shared on samba. However previous shares that I had are not visible from windows machines anymore. Additionally, this new share slows down the windows clients and I never had sharring or connection problems until I mounted this new hd and created the share. If I unshare this new folder, I still can't see the old shares from windows.
[06:44] <bazhang> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/gutsy/release/ Trey here is the link for the alternate
[06:45] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: are you using kde or gnome?
[06:45] <nikrud> bazhang  releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 is easier to type ;)
[06:45] <bazhang> hehe
[06:46] <nikrud> you know, this is actually more fun without the bot
[06:46] <arvind_> ! patience can apt-get made be read a list of sources from a file???
[06:46] <Odd-rationale> nikrud: yeah right.
[06:47] <nikrud> arvind_ no, apt-get uses /etc/apt/sources.list for that exclusively
[06:47] <ethan961> Oh, that's why the bot didn't reply
[06:47] <ethan961> D'oh
[06:47] <sphinxx> nik you still here
[06:47] <bazhang> for the acpi=off you need to get into grub and add it Trey
[06:47] <nikrud> sphinxx yup
[06:47] <sphinxx> ok i have the alternate cd in now
[06:48] <sphinxx> win xp is all installed
[06:48] <Odd-rationale> ethan961: are the ubot* run on windows machines or something?
[06:48] <nikrud> Odd-rationale it's like the old days, before ubotu existed
[06:48] <arvind_> nikrud, i didnt mean tat...i have list of sources to be downloaded ...can i direct it to to apt-get source somehow??
[06:48] <Erickj92> where is the documentation for setting up dancer-ircd and dancer-services?
[06:48] <nikrud> sphinxx ok, just boot the alternate cd, answer the questions as you go, and tell ubuntu to use the free space to install when it comes time to partition
[06:49] <sphinxx> you are a great help
[06:49] <sphinxx> ok one sec
[06:49] <nikrud> arvind_ I'm not sure I understand
[06:49] <Odd-rationale> nikrud: never was here in the "old days" I used to wonder how this guy seemed to pop in all the time and give some informative remards...
[06:49] <bazhang> http://knightlust.blogspot.com/2007/08/setting-up-dancer-ircd-in-kubuntu.html Erickj92
[06:49] <sphinxx> just put in anything for hostname?
[06:49] <Erickj92> bazhang, i used that but i still cant connect using my external IP, only my internal :(
[06:49] <nikrud> sphinxx yup. Whatever you want to name the machine. Maybe egypt ;)
[06:50] <sphinxx> i am naming it nikrud if thats ok with you :)
[06:50] <arvind_> nikrud, is there anyway of getting the dependencies through dpkg??
[06:50] <symptom> sphinxx: pick something nifty
[06:50]  * nikrud blushes
[06:50] <nikrud> arvind_ without knowing a lot more about what you are doing, I can't say.
[06:50] <Erickj92> bazhang, what could i be doing wrong that is keeping people from the outside world from connecting?
[06:51] <Erickj92> i have dont port forwarding and everything
[06:51] <Trey> who ever makes the MOTD needs to update it the copy paste thing dosn't work
[06:51] <symptom> Erickj92: is firestarter running
[06:51] <Erickj92> symptom, its disabled
[06:51] <robm2> Can someone help me with a samba issue? After intalling a new HD and sharing a folder on that drive. All my old shares are no longer visable on windows.  I've even removed the share on the new HD but the windows pcs still can't see my old shares.
[06:51] <Erickj92> i had the same prob with apache2
[06:51] <nikrud> Trey use paste.ubuntu.com
[06:51] <symptom> Erickj92: ok because it took me about 2 mons to realize that it was still enabled for me... drove me batsh*t crazy
[06:51] <Gnea> robm2: install swat and reset them up
[06:52] <Henry> who know how to write the virus
[06:52] <Henry> i want try it
[06:52] <arvind_> nikrud, ok see i lets say i want to build a package which will be having dependencies,so i want to get the dependencies at once....as i want to build this package where there is no internet
[06:52] <brent113> Quick question.  Why does the output of the network history look as such: http://officialbs.hopto.org/pic/Screenshot-System%20Monitor.png
[06:52] <Erickj92> yeah symptom, im looking at it right now, and it is stoped
[06:52] <bazhang> Trey: what copy paste thing? you might try installing pastebinit
[06:52] <bazhang> Henry not here
[06:52] <Gnea> Henry: do we look like virus writers?
[06:52] <robm2> Gnea: I'd prefer to try to fix what I already had before intsalling something new. Any suggestions before trying that?
[06:52] <ethan961> Henry, ##virus maybe?
[06:53] <Erickj92> is there any other firewall that could be running and preventing people from connecting?
[06:53] <symptom> Erickj92: I would try firing up wireshark and taking a peek
[06:53] <Gnea> robm2: swat will work on your current configuration
[06:53] <Gnea> !swat | robm2
[06:53] <Erickj92> symptom, wireshark?
[06:53] <symptom> also looking at your routers logs
[06:53] <sphinxx> ok nikrud partition disks just came up
[06:53] <sphinxx> i'm going to manual correct?
[06:53] <symptom> wireshark = ethereal
[06:53] <ethan961> Gnea, the bot isn't here
[06:53] <Gnea> ...
[06:53] <symptom> wireshark/ethereal = network protocol analyzer
[06:54] <nikrud> arvind_ ah. you can use synaptic for that. Mark the package you want, then file->generate package download list
[06:54] <Finnish> Can someone help with my NVIdia-card? I started my PC today and resolution is way too high now
[06:54] <Erickj92> symptom, will that tell me what ports are open and all that?
[06:54] <Odd-rationale> how come ubot3 works in #kubuntu?
[06:54] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, I have a new problem.  Turns out my new DVD-RW drive can read encrypted DVDs, but my old DVD-ROM can't.  Why is that?
[06:54] <Gnea> robm2: apt-get install swat, then enable it via /etc/inetd.conf (should have it set) then point your web browser to http://localhost:901 and login as admin
[06:54] <nikrud> sphinxx you still want to have separate /home ?
[06:54] <Finnish> And when I try to make it smaller/the way it was, screen goes crazy
[06:54] <symptom> it will monitor your traffic... if you want to see your ports use nmapFE
[06:54] <robm2> Gnea: since it only takes a min to install I'll try installing swat, can you help after I do?
[06:54] <symptom> and do a connect scan on localhost
[06:54] <bazhang> Finnish: how about pastebinning your xorg.conf for those here to look at
[06:54] <nikrud> sphinxx With only 14gb assigned to linux, I strongly recommend not using one.
[06:54] <Gnea> robm2: don't forget to install samba-doc if you haven't already - once you use it you will see how nice it is
[06:54] <Erickj92> symptom, the IRCD works with localhost
[06:55] <sphinxx> hmm
[06:55] <Gnea> robm2: i'll be around for a little while, gotta sleep soon
[06:55] <robm2> gnea: how can I tell, if samba doc is installed or not
[06:55] <sphinxx> i take your recommewndation as good as any
[06:55] <Gnea> robm2: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep samba-doc
[06:55] <sphinxx> ok so if im not using /home
[06:55] <sphinxx> i still want to do manual - i like to learn thigns the hard way
[06:55] <nikrud> sphinxx one question:  you will be able to back up 4-6gb of home, when you need to reinstall because you broke your ubuntu :)
[06:55] <arvind_> nikrud, how do i say download only do not install
[06:56] <Finnish> bazhang: What's the command line for that?
[06:56] <Rolcol> How do I change the system font size on xubuntu?
[06:56] <bazhang> JDSBlueDevl: that really is a hardware issue; try contacting the manufacturer
[06:56] <symptom> Erickj92: well what exactly happens
[06:56]  * Gnea tries to figure out why acidlab isn't working with *headesk*
[06:56] <Finnish> bazhang: (Just for the xorg)
[06:57] <Erickj92> symptom, i can connect using localhost as the server, but when i use my external ip, nothing works
[06:57] <bazhang> Finnish: sudo apt-get install pastebinit then cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[06:57] <robm2> Gnea: looks like I have it all installed now. What next
[06:57] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: do you see an entry like Pri/log free space?
[06:57] <Gnea> it installed... i threw up a virtualhost for apache2... included the apache.conf file... restarted apache... it *should* be there...
[06:57] <symptom> Erickj92: do you have a router?
[06:57] <sphinxx> ok nik i went to manual, i see my #1 is primary 12.6gb (c drive), #5 logical 2.6gb (D drive )
[06:57] <themime> what do i do with a .deb file?
[06:57] <nikrud> arvind_   sudo apt-get install --download-only <package-name> . the script that synaptic creates will only download, anyway
[06:57] <sphinxx> then pri/log 14.8gb free space
[06:57] <Gnea> robm2: sudo netstat -nap | grep 901
[06:57] <bazhang> themime: what deb file
[06:57] <Erickj92> symptom, yes and all port forwarding has been set up
[06:58] <Gnea> robm2: should see something like this: tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:901             <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN     5096/xinetd
[06:58] <Odd-rationale> themime: double click
[06:58] <sphinxx> so on the 14.8gb free space im setting up a partition, how should i allocate it?
[06:58] <themime> its a custom rtl8180-sa2400 driver for newer kernels
[06:58] <jaffarkelshac> i am looking for good security practises. i have the firestarter and clamav is there any other security that i need for ubuntu
[06:58] <nikrud> sphinxx that's all you have? There should be some free space?
[06:58] <robm2> yeah I see a bunch of lines
[06:58] <Finnish> http://paste.stgraber.org/2178
[06:58] <nikrud> sphinxx ah, got out of sync
[06:58] <Gnea> robm2: good. open firefox or whatever and throw it at http://localhost:901
[06:58] <sphinxx> no prob
[06:58] <bazhang> jaffarkelshac: secure passwords
[06:58] <Gnea> robm2: and just hand it root's credentials
[06:58] <sphinxx> so i should do 13.8?
[06:58] <sphinxx> and 1 for swap?
[06:58] <symptom> jaffarkelshac: encrypted filesystem
[06:58] <nikrud> sphinxx 1gb swap for your 512mb mem, the rest for /
[06:58] <themime> Odd-rationale
[06:59] <themime> Odd-rationale: er oops, i meant, what about at command line
[06:59] <symptom> jaffarkelshac: delete all web browsing logs cache and cookies when you close browser
[06:59] <nikrud> sphinxx you can do a backup of the several gigs of data you'll create in /home, right?
[06:59] <Odd-rationale> themime: dpkg -i packagename
[06:59] <themime> thanks
[06:59] <symptom> Erickj92: Im not sure what your issue could be
[06:59] <Odd-rationale> themime: sudo
[06:59] <sphinxx> i have another comptuer with a large hard drive (my deksopt which i'm on now)
[06:59] <robm2> Gnea: that doesn't load up. I'm connected to ewbmin just fine though.
[06:59] <Erickj92> symptom, when i use nmapfe to scan my external IP, no ports are open
[06:59] <symptom> Erickj92: I would just do an nmap scan andcheck out wireshark
[06:59] <sphinxx> and an external
[06:59] <Erickj92> but, ports are open on my internal IP
[06:59] <Gnea> robm2: is this a personal or production system?
[06:59] <themime> hehe yea, already got bitched at by it
[06:59] <nikrud> sphinxx then definitely, make it all one big partition
[06:59] <jaffarkelshac> Symons, encrypted file system?
[07:00] <symptom> Erickj92: well those bad boys need tobe open... especailly 80
[07:00] <robm2> Gnea: personal
[07:00] <Erickj92> symptom, they are open in my router
[07:00] <sphinxx> ok so i did a 13.8gb partition
[07:00] <sphinxx> for use as i put it as ext3?
[07:00] <Erickj92> i just dunno why their now showing open
[07:00] <Rolcol> How do I change the system font size on xubuntu?
[07:00] <iositd> Erickj92, don't bother scanning your external ip, it won't be reachable from your end.
[07:00] <sphinxx> mount point /
[07:00] <nikrud> sphinxx yes, and set it for formatting
[07:00] <iositd> symptom, ^
[07:00] <nikrud> sphinxx and yes again
[07:00] <Erickj92> well my computers IP is showing those ports open
[07:00] <symptom> yes iositd ?
[07:00] <Gnea> robm2: egads, webmin is just... evil! okay, i'll hold back anymore opinions on that... is samba running on the same computer you're on or another host?
[07:00] <iositd> symptom, read the message to Erickj92
[07:01] <sphinxx> are any of these mount options important, or just leave at defaults
[07:01] <nikrud> sphinxx no, defaults is fine
[07:01] <robm2> the computer is right next to me but im connected putty
[07:01] <symptom> iositd: oh good call
[07:01] <robm2> ssh
[07:01] <iositd> Erickj92, you computer will show them as open. Your router will show them as open. The outgoing traffic can't be routed back at you, it gets lost.
[07:01] <sphinxx> reserved blocks is at 5%
[07:01] <Gnea> robm2: oh ok, then point your web browser at that system then, giving it 901 as the port number
[07:01] <sphinxx> typical usage - standard
[07:01] <symptom> iositd: yea it needs to be bounced
[07:01] <nikrud> fine. All you need to change is ext3 , format , and  / as mount point
[07:01] <bazhang> Finnish: what is the resolution you want and what is it set to now
[07:01] <Erickj92> iositd, what does that mean? i need to do somthing more?
[07:02] <symptom> Erickj92: sorry i gotta go, good luck
[07:02] <symptom> :)
[07:02] <sphinxx> what is format i dont see that option
[07:02] <Erickj92> ok symptom, thank you
[07:02] <iositd> Erickj92, no, it's something standard. However, scanning yourself with nmap isn't going to show your ports open. I can do it for you and tell you the result.
[07:02] <iositd> symptom, afaik that's fairly though to do.
[07:02] <Erickj92> ok, so PM you my external IP?
[07:02] <robm2> Gnea: I did, unable to connect. I tried connecting using vnc and and I couldn't load http://localhost:901
[07:02] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: if it is a new partion you may not seee the format option
[07:03] <iositd> Erickj92, yes. I'll give you the result then.
[07:03] <sphinxx> what about "bootable flag'
[07:03] <iositd> Erickj92, wait ...
[07:03] <sphinxx> its default is 'off'
[07:03] <nikrud> sphinxx probably because it needs formatting already
[07:03] <Gnea> robm2: ok. when you installed swat, did it installed anything else, like openbsd-inetd?
[07:03] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: turn that on
[07:03] <Erickj92> hischild?
[07:03] <hischild> Erickj92, there we go. Now you can pm me =)
[07:03] <Erickj92> ok
[07:03] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Finnish this command might help too
[07:04] <sphinxx> when would it be wise to set typical usage to 'largefile' instead of 'standard'
[07:04] <Gnea> robm2: btw, what version of ubuntu do you have on there?
[07:04] <robm2> Gnea: no it doesn't look like it installed anything else
[07:04] <Finnish> bazhang: It is now 1792x1344, and I wan't it to be 1024x768
[07:04] <sphinxx> like if you often transfer large files?
[07:04] <robm2> Gnea: was that supposed to be netstat -nap | grep 901  ?
[07:05] <nikrud> sphinxx big file is for things like full dvd's, if you have one you won't have much room for anything else
[07:05] <sphinxx> ah ok
[07:05] <Gnea> robm2: yes.
[07:05] <sphinxx> so if i had a huge hard drive, i could make multiple partitions, one of them specifically for large files?
[07:05] <nikrud> sphinxx exactly
[07:05] <sphinxx> ah ok
[07:05] <sphinxx> and keep reserved blocks at 5%?
[07:06] <earl> hey guys. wondering if there's any way to have evolutoin check for mail automatically
[07:06] <earl> specifically, to do so without having evolution open
[07:06] <earl> maybe a notification tray app or something?
[07:06] <Odd-rationale> earl: you can dock it with alltray
[07:06] <Gumby> install kontact/kmail and do away with evolution  :)  thats my solution
[07:06] <earl> Odd-rationale: eh?
[07:07] <Odd-rationale> earl: search synaptic for alltray
[07:07] <Trey> I made some progress
[07:07] <sphinxx> ok nikrud now i made the swap partition , 1gb
[07:07] <earl> what does it do...?
[07:07] <sphinxx> it has one option, 'bootable flag'
[07:07] <Trey> i am not sure if it works completly yet though
[07:07] <sphinxx> turn this one off or on?
[07:07] <nikrud> good to go. bootable flag is meaningless to linux
[07:07] <Finnish> bazhang: Aargh, that didn\t help
[07:07] <Odd-rationale> earl: it pus the app into the notification area.
[07:08] <sphinxx> is there a reason hard drives always leave like 7mb of free space?
[07:08] <sphinxx> is that the buffer or something?
[07:08] <Odd-rationale> earl: but yeah. I like kmail better.
[07:08] <sriramoman> in ubuntu package management, how do i check the size of the file going to be downloaded for installation?
[07:08] <earl> kmail's pretty excellent but does it integrate well with gnome?
[07:08] <bazhang> Finnish: how did you install the drivers?
[07:09] <robm2> Gnea: when I typed the netstat command, the results were several lines of
[07:09] <robm2> unix 3 [ ]  stream connected number    number/something else /
[07:09] <nikrud> sphinxx something about making sure partitions start/end on some logical spot I think
[07:09] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: when you set up you last partion (swap) did you set it exactly to 1gb or to max to use the rest of the drive?
[07:09] <sphinxx> to 1gb
[07:09] <Finnish> bazhang: I guess these are linux drivers
[07:09] <sphinxx> was i suppoed to use max/
[07:09] <sriramoman> in ubuntu package management, how do i check the size of the file going to be downloaded for installation?
[07:10] <tarkus> i have a question: would you consider linux to be able to accomodate any basic user? some who doesnt know a single line of code?
[07:10] <nikrud> sphinxx 7mb wont matter, but you could go back and set it to max
[07:10] <bazhang> Finnish: you are using the nv and not the nvidia driver; how was that installed?
[07:10] <alan_m> sriraman, please be patient :)
[07:10] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: do you still have a "free space" evtry?
[07:10] <sphinxx> thanks for the help you 2 especially (you know who you are), im gonna take a shower while this is installing
[07:10] <bazhang> sriramoman: check packages.ubuntu.com
[07:10] <Gnea> robm2: ignore those, there should be one that says LISTEN on it
[07:10] <Finnish> This was my first ever ubuntu install, I remember that it got sort of automaticallt
[07:10] <Finnish> Or I just selected it from the list
[07:10] <sphinxx> odd, im already in the setup, not sure, the linux partition was showing no freee space at all, but i remember when setting up windows, it has 7mb i couldnt touch
[07:11] <nikrud> sriramoman apt-cache show <packagename> | grep -i size
[07:11] <Finnish> This is Gutsy 7.10
[07:11] <carlzenox> is there a good movie maker for ubuntu?
[07:11] <bazhang> Finnish: did you use envy for this?
[07:11] <robm2> Gnea: none of them say listen  just lots of stream connected (7 lines)
[07:11] <Gnea> carlzenox: i've had some success with kino and avidemux
[07:11] <sphinxx> be back in a bit
[07:11] <Finnish> bazhang: No envy
[07:11] <Gnea> carlzenox: they are NOT microsoft movie, though :)
[07:12] <Gnea> robm2: ok then it didn't start right - do you get any results with this command: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep inetd    ?
[07:12] <Odd-rationale> carlzenox: unfortunately, not really. there is cinerella, kino, pitivi, and kdenlive.
[07:12] <bazhang> Finnish: well how about using the restricted drivers; the nvidia ones; or you could hand edit your xorg.conf
[07:12] <nikrud> sphinxx one thing: be very patient, the installer does not have good feeback
[07:12] <bullgard4> What mechanism appends to the name of a process a / and a digit, for example 'migration/0' or 'ata/0'?
[07:12] <sriramoman> nikrud: is it not possible thru the gui itself?
[07:13] <earl> odd-rationale: do you use kmail? how well does it integrate with gnome
[07:13] <Finnish> bazhang: I've hand edited xconf before, but with assistant, so I could try it
[07:13] <bazhang> sriramoman: look in synaptic package manager sure
[07:13] <Odd-rationale> earl: i use kde anyways :P
[07:13] <nikrud> sriramoman hightlight the package, and select properties (in synaptic)
[07:13] <robm2> Gnea: -bash: pkg: command not found
[07:13] <luckylin> anyone know why it takes a couple times logging off then back on to get my menus to work with compiz fusion?
[07:13] <Gnea> robm2: dpkg  :)
[07:13] <robm2> Gnea: I copies and pasted your line exactly
[07:13] <robm2> oh hehe
[07:13] <Gnea> ;)
[07:13] <earl> damn.
[07:14] <robm2> Gnea: ii update-inetd 4.27-0.2 inetd.conf updater
[07:14] <owen1> i have winxp in a folder and i want to create iso. can i do it?
[07:14] <Odd-rationale> earl: so a real solution would be to switch to kubuntu, ;)
[07:14] <Gnea> robm2: ok, give this a shot then: apt-get install xinetd
[07:14] <bazhang> earl kde stuff works fine in gnome
[07:15] <earl> i just switched away from kubuntu
[07:15] <nikrud> Odd-rationale I knew there was a method to your nick
[07:15] <robm2> Gnea: okay done.
[07:15] <earl> i prefer kde but i think ubuntu's amenities are better, and unfortunately none of them apply to kubuntu
[07:15] <sriramoman> nikrud: is the default package manager synaptic? coz that method was not there in default manager...
[07:15] <Gnea> robm2: now check it again:   netstat -nap | grep 901 | grep LISTEN
[07:15] <Odd-rationale> nikrud: *gasps* you figured out the meaning to my nick ?!
[07:15] <bazhang> sriramoman: ubuntu has synaptic kubuntu has adept
[07:16] <nikrud> sriramoman ah, you're using add/remove.  close that, and go to  system->admin->synaptic package manager. More powerful, lists many more software packages
[07:16] <Gnea> bazhang: and they all have apt-get ;)
[07:16] <bazhang> true ;]
[07:16] <robm2> Gnea: I ran netstat -nap | grep 901 | grep LISTEN and didn't get an error or anything but I still can't load the web page
[07:16] <sriramoman> yes i am used to power.
[07:16] <luckylin> can anyone help me figure out something in compiz fusion?
[07:16] <sriramoman> i am new to ubuntu, though
[07:16] <bazhang> #compiz-fusion is best for that luckylin
[07:16] <Odd-rationale> luckylin: depends on what that something is
[07:17] <Gnea> robm2: ok, check to see if this file exists: /etc/xinetd.d/swat
[07:17] <nikrud> sriramoman   linuxcommands.org , that'll start you down the power road (courtesy of Odd-rationale)
[07:17] <luckylin> I just have a little problem restarting my computer
[07:17] <sriramoman> thank u very much
[07:17] <Trey> ok i need some new help now
[07:17] <robm2> Gnea: -bash: /etc/xinet.d/swat: No such file or directory
[07:17] <Trey> i found a back way in to the desktop
[07:17] <luckylin> when it restarts compiz fusion fails to load, and no menus come up, sometimes no desktop at all just background
[07:17] <Gnea> robm2: try this then:  dpkg-reconfigure swat
[07:17] <Rolcol> How do I change the system font size on xubuntu?
[07:17] <owen1> folder to iso     anyone?
[07:17] <sriramoman> nikrud: i used to use suse. i am new to ubuntu. i know the typical unix commands
[07:17] <bullgard4> What mechanism appends to the name of a process a / and a digit, for example 'migration/0' or 'ata/0'?
[07:18] <bazhang> luckylin: try disabling compiz alt f2 metacity --replace
[07:18] <sriramoman> as u see, package management is distro specific!
[07:18] <robm2> Gnea:  okay done
[07:18] <nikrud> sriramoman then you're going to find some stuff different, but much much better ;)
[07:18] <Gnea> robm2: see if it's there now
[07:18] <robm2> Gnea: still doesn't exist
[07:18] <nikrud> good night all
[07:18] <bazhang> night
[07:18] <luckylin> what I ended up doing was control+alt+delete and hit logout, then when I logged back in again it all works
[07:18] <Odd-rationale> nikrud: good night!
[07:19] <Finnish> bazhang: Uh, I had to restart this machine
[07:19] <robm2> Gnea: rob@Ubuntu:~# dpkg-reconfigure swat
[07:19] <robm2> --------- IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR XINETD USERS ----------
[07:19] <robm2> The following line will be added to your /etc/inetd.conf file:
[07:19] <robm2>
[07:19] <robm2> swat\t\tstream\ttcp\tnowait.400\troot\t/usr/sbin/tcpd\t/usr/sbin/swat
[07:19] <FloodBot1> robm2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:19] <luckylin> so it does work, just not the first time
[07:19] <Gnea> d'oh!
[07:19] <sriramoman> and i am very used to having all applications in my fingertips(offline). i dont mind downloading entire repos. how do i do that in suse and implement it thru synaptic  or add/remove?
[07:19] <Henry> aww
[07:19] <luckylin> i'll go to #compiz-fusion to see if they know what it is
[07:19] <sriramoman> sorry ubuntu
[07:20] <sriramoman> slip off tongue
[07:20] <luckylin> thankyou bazhang
[07:20] <robm2> pastbin url doesn't work :(
[07:20] <Gnea> robm2: don't worry about pasting anything :)
[07:20] <alan_m> robm2, you can truly use any pastebin site, as long as you give us the link to the paste ;)
[07:20] <Gnea> robm2: what number does this command provide?  ls /etc/xinetd.d/ | wc -l
[07:20] <bazhang> http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/12/24/use-apt-mirror-to-create-your-own-ubuntu-mirror/ sriramoman
[07:21] <robm2> the site http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ doens' t load for m e
[07:21] <Gnea> robm2: what about http://pastebin.ca ?
[07:21] <Trey> ok i need some help from the graphics guru
[07:21] <bazhang> robm2: then install pastebinit and cat and pipe the stuff there
[07:22] <sriramoman> bazhang: is it possible to see the size of each repo?
[07:22] <robm2> Gnea http://pastebin.ca/965793
[07:22] <Gnea> yes, apparantly the EU is eperiencing some internet cabling issues right now
[07:22] <earl> so in kmail how do you get the tray to show up?
[07:22] <cableroy> hi, i have dualscreen, but when i login with my regular user it gets twin view, i tried to make a new user and loged in, and that worked good, how to fix this on my regular user?
[07:22] <Gnea> robm2: sec
[07:23] <sriramoman> and i need to download it in chunks, so i would prefer if i can resume downloads
[07:23] <Trey> how do i fix restricted drivers
[07:23] <bazhang> sriramoman: I would imagine it would be in the several gb range; cant remember at the moment
[07:23] <sriramoman> coz internet connection is free for me for 8hrs a day
[07:23] <sriramoman> (5 gb a day)
[07:24] <Gnea> robm2: put that in your /etc/xinetd.d/swat  http://pastebin.ca/965796
[07:24] <sriramoman> i would b happy enough is downloads can be resumed
[07:24] <manchicken_> sriramoman: I would say that it's fair to say that the Ubuntu repositories in their entirety are at least a TB or two.
[07:24] <manchicken_> Though I suspect more than that even.
[07:24] <bazhang> nah not that big
[07:25] <sriramoman> TB???
[07:25] <Gnea> debian's isn't even 1TB
[07:25] <hischild> manchicken_, i doubt that ... how much space do you use, binaries only?
[07:25] <alan_m> bazhang, i found pastebinit but cant find cat in the repositories, are you sure thats right? (asking for future reference to users)
[07:25] <manchicken_> bazhang: Remember, you're talking Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, from Hoary through Hardy.
[07:25] <Gnea> manchicken_: you're also talking about round robin
[07:25] <manchicken_> hischild: IIRC the question was how bit the repository is...
[07:26] <manchicken_> That would include source debs as well as binary debs.
[07:26] <manchicken_> s/bit/big
[07:26] <knoppix> What is the commend to make a disklabel pleae?
[07:26] <bazhang> alan_m: it would be first: install pastebinit; then cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit which will spit a url out for you to post here
[07:26] <robm2> Gnea: uh. I dont have a folder inetd.d
[07:26] <sriramoman> bazhang: are repos in ubuntu like urls?
[07:26] <bazhang> sriramoman: did you read that link even?
[07:26] <knoppix> I searched gogle and got ever command but the disk label one
[07:26] <alan_m> ah, sorry bud, just got confused ;)
[07:26] <robm2> Gnea: i thought maybe I was doing someting wrong in ssh so I loggedin with vnc and I can't find it
[07:26] <knoppix> even the man
[07:26] <kelvin911> hello is there a channel talks about linux games?
[07:27] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic kelvin911
[07:27] <Gnea> robm2: it's xinetd.d lol
[07:27] <kelvin911> i am looking fps games that can be play single player
[07:27] <sriramoman> i read it, but is it absolutely necessary to use apt-mirror?
[07:27] <Gnea> manchicken_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=2db139e1191e1e2bcac67e5d293e7c23&t=352460
[07:27] <bullgard4> What mechanism appends to the name of a process a / and a digit, for example 'migration/0' or 'ata/0'?
[07:27] <knoppix> Can I bother someone here for the linux command for disklabel please
[07:27] <cableroy> hi, i have dualscreen, but when i login with my regular user it gets twin view, i tried to make a new user and loged in, and that worked good, how to fix this on my regular user?
[07:28] <alan_m> kelvin911, please take the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[07:28] <bazhang> sriramoman: that was just a suggestion; this is Linux so feel free to come up with your own ;]
[07:28] <manchicken_> Gnea: I'll be happy to look at that after my dist-upgrade is done.
[07:28] <kelvin911> alan_m: thx
[07:28] <Odd-rationale> knoppix: you will have to reformat the partion. Is that OK?
[07:28] <knoppix> geez
[07:28] <knoppix> yes
[07:28] <knoppix> disklele
[07:28] <Odd-rationale> knoppix: what filesystem?
[07:28] <knoppix> mk something
[07:28] <sriramoman> can u point me to some repo?
[07:28] <knoppix> ext3
[07:28] <bullgard4> knoppix: You can use Gparted to change partition labels.
[07:29] <knoppix> gparted will not LABEL!!!!
[07:29] <Gnea> sriramoman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=2db139e1191e1e2bcac67e5d293e7c23&t=352460
[07:29] <knoppix> I wnt to leabel / and home thats it
[07:29] <Odd-rationale> knoppix: mkfs.ext3 -L your label /dev/sdb1
[07:29] <knoppix> !!!
[07:29] <robm2> Gnea: okay, I created the file swat and pasted your text
[07:29] <knoppix> thanks
[07:29] <bazhang> knoppix: calm down please
[07:29] <knoppix> hehe
[07:29] <Gnea> robm2: ok, now: /etc/init.d/xinetd restart
[07:29] <robm2> Gnea: stopping, starting
[07:30] <robm2> Gnea: okay I can access the webpage now, whats the un/pass same as my regular?
[07:30] <Gnea> robm2: whatever you set root to :)
[07:30] <robm2> Gnea: okay logged in
[07:30] <Gnea> robm2: if you login as regular user you won't be able to do everything
[07:30] <robm2> Gnea: I'm as root
[07:31] <IanFHood> I am a total noobie, have installed 6.06.2 (server) but # apt-get install python2.4-setuptools returns error: couldn't find package...
[07:31] <Gnea> robm2: oh ok cool. click on stuff. read things. dive in. enjoy.
[07:31] <Gnea> :)
[07:31] <martzipAN^> hey , i put a file in /bin dir that will be a global command so i can use it anywhere , but if i not run it as a root user its asks me password, is there a way to run that command with any user without asking a password ?
[07:31] <bazhang> IanFHood: did you add sudo to that
[07:31] <IanFHood> yes
[07:31] <robm2> Gnea: :( that doesn't exactly help
[07:31] <IanFHood> well, from sudo -i
[07:31] <IanFHood> same thing, no?
[07:32] <sriramoman> Gnea: thank u
[07:32] <Gnea> robm2: the only way to learn it is to, quite honestly, USE it
[07:32] <martzipAN^> shouldnt i change the chmod of the file of somthing in /bin
[07:32] <martzipAN^> ?
[07:32] <Gnea> sriramoman: you're welcome
[07:32] <knoppix> thanks
[07:32] <sriramoman> Gnea: this is suitable for me, only that i want to know how i can pause/resume downloads
[07:32] <Gnea> robm2: you've got icons across the top. click on them, experiment, poke around - just don't click on 'commit' yet
[07:32] <Geoffrey2> when using the tar command, how do I specify an existing directory to place the extracted files in, instead of it creating a new directory?
[07:32] <robm2> Gnea: i was fine before installing swat. it's just that ever since I installed the new hd and shared a folder my other shares weren't accessable from windows. howe am I supposed to figure out  why
[07:33] <Gnea> robm2: check out your shares button
[07:33] <robm2> Gnea: the existing shares are still there
[07:33] <Gnea> robm2: you should have a drop-down list of all of your shares.
[07:33] <Gnea> robm2: then see if they're browsable or available
[07:34] <IanFHood> bazhang: yes, used sudo
[07:34] <leonbrussels> Marzipan sudo chmod 775 /bin/youtfile
[07:34] <leonbrussels> i think
[07:34] <robm2> Gnea: browsable is no. if I change that to yes, I supopse that will fix... if I set default that makes it for all shares?
[07:34] <Gnea> robm2: make it 'yes', it will only affect that share.
[07:35] <ZoiX> Wanda give me water :|
[07:35] <Gnea> robm2: and if it doesn't work right away, 'restart all' on the status button will fix that :)
[07:35]  * Gnea has been playing with samba a wee bit much lately, can you tell?
[07:35] <IanFHood> I was able to apt-get install python2.4-imaging with no problem, but I don't understand why not the setuptools... have I got the wrong id?
[07:36] <owen1> is installing kernel headers dangerous?
[07:36] <robm2> Gnea: neat, one of my shares got deleted when I changed to to browsable and commited changes
[07:36] <Gnea> owen1: dangerous? it... might take up... a little bit of... hard drive space lol
[07:36] <bazhang> IanFHood: try an apt-cache search for the exact name; such as apt-cache search python
[07:37] <Gnea> robm2: are you sure about that? click on another button then go back to it and try to select it again
[07:37] <orbisvicis> butt ... you need it ... to compile modules ... etc
[07:37] <leonbrussels> MartzipAN^ use sudo chmod 775 on your file
[07:37] <Gnea> :)
[07:37] <sriramoman> can i use i386 packages on x86_64 ubuntu?
[07:37] <robm2> Gnea: no, I was mistaken, it keeps changeing to print$. CAn I delete print$ I dont have any printers
[07:37] <ZoiX> http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2918/pantallazobg3.png
[07:38] <owen1> Gnea: i am trying to use virtualbox on 8.04 and get error about virtualbox kernel driver not installed.
[07:38] <Gnea> robm2: print$ is a default printer thing for samba, it's harmless. best off to leave it alone.
[07:38] <hischild> manchicken_, i'm downloading the repo's now. Not including the sources and normally excluded ones, they account for 41gb
[07:38] <owen1> Gnea: when googling for it some say to do this: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:38] <Gnea> owen1: /join #ubuntu+1  they support hardy there
[07:38] <bazhang> owen1: that would be #ubuntu+1
[07:38] <IanFHood> bazhang: nothing
[07:39] <sriramoman> owen1: add ur username under vbox?? group. that v???? name would be included in the error
[07:39] <bullgard4> What mechanism appends to the name of a process a / and a digit, for example 'migration/0' or 'ata/0'?
[07:39] <bazhang> IanFHood: try some different keywords or search packages.ubuntu.com
[07:40] <manchicken_> hischild: All of them?  Over the last 2-3 years?
[07:40] <hischild> manchicken_, i'm talking about the current repo's for hardy.
[07:41] <manchicken_> hischild: The person I was answering before just mentioned repos.  Not current repos :)
[07:41] <manchicken_> heh