[13:07] <corshmock> I've just reinstalled Ubuntu Studio, but it was crashing every time I tried to create a partition during the install
[13:07] <corshmock> So I went for one of the automatic options with LVM
[13:07] <corshmock> Installed Gparted
[13:09] <corshmock> But there are only two partitions!  465Gb, and 1mb unallocated!
[13:09] <corshmock> No swap, no boot.  Does that sound alright?
 ok. increased RAM to 24GB. kdenlive is still crashing. in the log i tracked down a possible problem with the graphics card (Geforce 660) and installed a driver. great! but the system is still crashing when I am editing videos in kdenlive.
[18:31] <corshmock> Good Lord you all sleep like Bears in here.  Are you sure you shouldn't rename this channel to Yellowstone Park? :)
[19:30] <OerHeks> sorry, just touring around the world
[19:31]  * OerHeks goes backstage
[23:53] <veremitz> hrhr


[12:14] <YeOldHinnerk> Hi. Apparently I was recently banned on #ubuntu and #ubuntu-server. I have no idea why. How to find out?
[12:15] <tomreyn> when exactly, using which nickname, and what made you think you were banned?
[12:16] <YeOldHinnerk> I have no idea why I was banned. Nick was "Hinnerk".
[12:16] <YeOldHinnerk> Oh, sorry, trying to join recently I got the message "You were banned."
[12:16] <tomreyn> i'm not asking why you were banned, i'm asking what makes you think that you were banned
[12:16] <tomreyn> ok
[12:18] <YeOldHinnerk> I'm not aware of any rudness or gross violation of policy/etiquette. So if I made a mistake, I would like to know what, so I can avoid it in the future.
[12:18] <tomreyn> i can't seem to find a ban against you
[12:18] <YeOldHinnerk> Odd.
[12:18] <tomreyn> maybe it was against a different ip address?
[12:18] <YeOldHinnerk> Ban was removed by now. I can now join again.
[12:19] <YeOldHinnerk> Puh. Probably, who knows what IP my Internet provider had given me at the time.
[12:19] <YeOldHinnerk> But the ban survived for a couple of days
[12:20] <YeOldHinnerk> I've been missing the ubuntu fiolks a lot :)
[12:20] <tomreyn> if it happens again, make a note of the output of    /who <yournickname>     at the time you're unable to join a channel
[12:20] <YeOldHinnerk> Well, no biggy, maybe it was a mistake.
[12:20] <YeOldHinnerk> Ok, next time, which hopefully won't come.
[12:24] <tomreyn> YeOldHinnerk: i would be surprised, if someone was banned by mistake. it's not impossible, but we do check each others' actions.
[12:26] <tomreyn> an example situation that would also lead to a ban is when your irc client continuously misbehaves or your internet connection is unstable and you get ban forwarded to ##fix_your_connection
[12:27] <tomreyn> YeOldHinnerk: that's just an example, though. i do not know what may have happened there.
[12:28] <tomreyn> If this issue is solved for now, please kindly leave the channel (as seen on /topic).
[12:28] <YeOldHinnerk> Maybe it was that. Since I rebooted my router several times, that may have looked like an unstable connection?
[12:29] <tomreyn> If you did that many, many times without leaving the channel, or joining, then disconnecting each time, this could have been a result.
[12:30] <YeOldHinnerk> Well, "many, many" > what I did, I think.
[12:30] <YeOldHinnerk> Ok, no matter. I'll leave here. Thx for checking.
[16:20] <leftyfb> tomreyn: what's up with hackerman other than the constant nick changing? ( more for my curiosity )
[16:21] <tomreyn> leftyfb: reconnects, nothing else, i set up a ban forward (see /mode #ubuntu +b)
[16:22] <tomreyn> looks like consistently bad connectivity / short interval reconnects to me. but can also be a misconfigured client.
[16:23] <leftyfb> ok. They did ask for legitimate help back in May with no activity since other than the disconnects and nick changes
[16:24] <tomreyn> i have no doubt on their legitimacy, it's just that the many reconnects throughout the day can be tiresome.
[16:25] <leftyfb> thanks for the explanation


[01:13] <dmcglone> Yay it's Friday, who's gonna party??? ;-)
[01:13] <o0splitpaw0o> fun fun fun..
[01:14] <o0splitpaw0o> still figuring where to sit in the car though. It's just so hard!
[01:15] <Unit193> going to apraty? i'm jparty already
[01:15] <Unit193> ;)
[01:15] <dmcglone> Yeah I know. I usually get beat down and tied to the hood ;:-/
[01:56] <canthus13> dmcglone: I used to get tied to the hood for fun! :)
[02:00] <dmcglone> lol canthus
[02:01] <Unit193> dmcglone: Goto #joomla
[02:05] <dmcglone> ah yeah, I didn't think about that Unit193
[02:05] <dmcglone> thanks buddy :-)
[02:08] <BiosElement> And Oracle tries to put the cat back in the bag: "Oracle Announces Its Intention to Move OpenOffice.org to a Community-Based Project"
[02:09] <Unit193> BiosElement: I did see that... I'm still sticking with LibreOffice...
[02:09] <BiosElement> They're late by about 4 months
[02:11] <canthus13> BiosElement: Meh. Too late for 'em. they've already screwed MySQL, all the third-party Sun hardware maintenence companies, and spit in the face of IBM...
[02:15] <BiosElement> canthus13: Hardly news, but I thought the fact they think they can save their investment to be amusing
[02:17] <canthus13> BiosElement: Just wait. they'll be acquired by whoever acquired SCO.. (WHo is apparently modelling itself after SCO....)
[02:17] <canthus13> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2011041402151812
[02:17] <BiosElement> Bleh
[02:18] <canthus13> UnXis apparenly thinks now that it owns SCO, it owns unix, despite all evidence to the contrary.
[02:25] <BiosElement> Meh, I really don't care that much. There are always trolls. SCO got it's ass kicked.
[03:12] <Unit193> The shell hosting I'm using is having real problems...
[13:13] <popman> hey guys
[13:14] <popman> I had windows update and restart thy computer two times in a row :D
[13:14] <popman> how do you mask your IP on freenode
[15:15] <thafreak> I've been meaning to read up on how to mask my ip on freenode actually
[15:15] <thafreak> currently, I just ssh to a remote server before joining :)
[15:16] <thafreak> canthus13: i found out my upload bandwidth issues...
[15:16] <thafreak> I forgot I turned on the traffic shapper on my m0n0wall router to try and help some voip issues
[15:17] <thafreak> It was configured a long time ago when my max up/down was way lower....figures
[15:18] <thafreak> Turn it off, and now I'm getting like double my max upload on the speed test sites...
[15:18] <thafreak> scp still starts out higher, then slowy goes down to my max...so it's obvious they try to cap me.
[15:19] <thafreak> Still, not bad for $40/mon I think...10mpbs down and 2mbps up
[18:14] <canthus13> thafreak: Heh.
[18:14] <canthus13> Nice. I've got 30 down, still only 2 up.  I can go up to 50/3 for another 15 a month.
[19:16] <thafreak> I'm considering switching to business to get 30/5....not that I need 30 really, but 5 up would be nice, and they don't block ports on the business plan
[19:16] <thafreak> but it's like $50 more
[19:19] <Unit193> popman: You go in #freenode and ask for a cloak and dagger (http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks)
[19:20] <Cheri703> paultag: you've probably seen it: http://www.aa.com/viewPromotionDetails.do?fN=JFKBUD_0211.xml&_locale=en_US
[19:20] <Cheri703> bah
[19:20] <Cheri703> wrong link
[19:20] <Cheri703> one sec
[19:20] <Cheri703> https://chzdailywhat.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/0cf1ece3-414a-4356-8266-944010bf71f0.jpg
[19:20] <Cheri703> that one paultag
[19:21] <paultag> Cheri703: heyya cheri :)
[19:21] <Cheri703> hi
[19:21] <paultag> Cheri703: oh noooo
[19:21] <paultag> Cheri703: so grossssss!!!
[19:21] <paultag> ach!!!
[19:21] <Cheri703> on this keyboard, fn and ctrl are swapped from where they are on my netbook, it keeps screwing me up
[19:21] <Cheri703> heh
[19:21] <paultag> Cheri703: thanks :)
[19:21] <Cheri703> thought you'd like that one :)
[19:21] <paultag> Cheri703: so, how's life?
[19:21] <Cheri703> eh, ok, need to get some more clients, need money. but getting ready for budapest trip
[19:22] <paultag> nice :D
[19:22] <Cheri703> it's a weird thing, being broke but planning an international trip
[19:22] <paultag> Cheri703: yeah, for sure. Just camp out in the center all day
[19:22] <Cheri703> my mom is all excited and keeps buying things for me for the trip and mailing them to me
[19:23] <Cheri703> I'm getting pretty excited for the trip. netbook is off for fixing, passport is (in theory) in process, so...pretty much all that's left to do is figure out what sights to see and get packed when the time comes!
[19:23]  * Cheri703 is super excited
[19:23] <Cheri703> I also need to be figuring out what I want on my website and how I want it laid out
[19:24] <Cheri703> I have no idea where to start on that
[19:25] <Unit193> You going to install a CMS?
[19:26] <Cheri703> uhm...dmcglone is going to help
[19:31] <BiosElement> kick me if you need any help Cheri703
[19:32] <Cheri703> ok, I'm just sort of at a "I have no idea what I want it to look like!" moment on it
[19:32] <Cheri703> have to ponder further
[19:37] <BiosElement> Hah, it'll come together once you start.
[19:40] <dmcglone> Hello
[19:40] <Unit193> Hello dmcglone
[19:40] <dmcglone> whats up Unit193
[19:41] <Cheri703> hi dmcglone
[19:42] <Unit193> Playing with Joomla and Wordpress
[19:42] <BiosElement> Unit193: Then I'm sorry for you. :)
[19:43] <Unit193> Eh, doesn't seem bad
[19:44] <BiosElement> Bleh, I don't see why anyone would like joomla, besides for it's flashy interface
[19:44] <dmcglone> BiosElement: joomla isn't all that bad
[19:44] <dmcglone> :-)
[19:45]  * Unit193 just wants something where I get a WYSIWYG interface
[19:45] <BiosElement> heh, well having a cold isn't all that bad either, it doesn't mean I'll go outta my way to get one ;)
[19:45] <dmcglone> the biggest difference between Drupal and Joomla is Drupal uses the SMARTY framework
[19:45] <dmcglone> lol
[19:45] <BiosElement> Unit193: WYSIWYG is a pro of it, but then again, I want my CMS to go away when I'm working on fancy html
[19:46] <dmcglone> joomla has the option to use different editors
[19:46] <dmcglone> doesn't have to be wisiwyg
[19:46] <BiosElement> And does it have a "Piss off and put EXACTLY what I type here in the page" option? Last I checked it forced things through wysiwyg >.<
[19:46] <dmcglone> I'm using TinyMCV
[19:47] <dmcglone> thats what I was working on last night, there is a way to allow HTML tags, but I don't know how yet
[19:48] <dmcglone> hopefully now that Unit193 is playing around with it, he can figure it out :-)
[19:48] <BiosElement> hehe
[19:49] <dmcglone> My whole purpose of playing around with it was to compare joomla to Drupal for an upcoming PHP meeting
[19:50] <dmcglone> our next 4 meetings are going to focus on CMS's
[19:50] <BiosElement> Heh sounds like 'fun'
[19:50] <dmcglone> it should be :-)
[19:52] <dmcglone> I'm about to install drupal and see how easy it is to get it to allow html tags :-)
[19:52] <BiosElement> Easy
[19:53] <Unit193> If you set Joomla to no editor it's all html...
[19:53]  * Unit193 just did it
[19:54] <dmcglone> how did you do that?????
[19:55] <dmcglone> Unit193: did you do it under the "plug-ins"?
[19:56] <Unit193> dmcglone: Global Config > Default Editor > Editor - None
[19:59] <Unit193> I would think you could change it in the article editor...
[20:01] <dmcglone> I agree. but that still didn't solve my problem. it's still showing html as text and not executing it :-/
[20:03] <Cheri703> paultag: !! also happy birthday!
[20:03]  * Cheri703 forgot to mention it
[20:03] <Cheri703> consider that pic your present ;)
[20:04] <paultag> Cheri703: thanks!!!!
[20:04] <Cheri703> any exciting plans?
[20:04] <paultag> watching star trek
[20:04] <paultag> it's awesome
[20:05] <Cheri703> :)
[20:16] <dmcglone> Ah hah Unit193 I got an html dropdown menu to work, must have been a mistake in my javascript
[20:21] <Unit193> dmcglone: Do I get to see what you're working on?
[20:23] <dmcglone> sure, but all it is, is a basic joomla install and I'm comparing how easy it is to configure and use VS drupal from a non-programming perspective
[20:23]  * Unit193 was thinking of testing Drupal too...
[20:23] <dmcglone> of course I could dive in to the sourcecode and write me some code, but thats what I'm trying to avoid
[20:25] <dmcglone> I gotta run to the store real quick I'll be back in a bit
[20:29] <canthus13> grr.. freaking xsane segfaulting like crazy. :(
[20:32] <Unit193> finch had a segfault too... now I can't get it back...
[20:45] <canthus13> Guess xsane doesn't like the HP deskjet 3050. I dusted off my old PSC 1510 and it worked fine.
[21:09]  * dmcglone is back
[21:11]  * Unit193 walks away
[21:12] <dmcglone> ah dang, wude... ;-)
[21:17] <Unit193> Tell/show me what you think of Drupal?
[21:18] <Unit193> http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2010/10/04/ptzfuiijmp.jpg
[21:19] <dmcglone> Ok hang on let me look at the link yous sent
[21:20] <dmcglone> haha that was a good one
[21:22] <dmcglone> Unit193:  I don't have much knowledge of Drupal, yet. I've played around with it in the past, but not for very long.
[21:31] <BiosElement> dmcglone: kick me if you have questions
[21:38] <dmcglone> kicks BiosElement I can't change permissions on one of my files as user nor root!!!! WTF????
[21:39] <dmcglone> here lately I'm getting so pissed off at Ubuntu!!!
[21:40] <dmcglone> today I spent about 2 hours trying to figure out why DVD videos were all choppy playing with totem, but I installed VLC and they worked fine, but I don't like VLC I want to use totem.
[21:41] <dmcglone> I'll be back, I'm gonna reboot and see if that will let me change permissions on the file
[21:44]  * dmcglone is back. now let me try and change permissions
[21:46] <dmcglone> nope, nothing, zilch, zippo!!!!! Hmmm is this your doing BiosElement? :-)
[21:48] <canthus13> dmcglone: Boot with a lice VD and try it that way.
[21:48] <canthus13> ...Live CD.
[21:49] <dmcglone> I'm gonna boot Ubuntu so hard it'll knock it back to the future ;-)
[21:50] <dmcglone> this crap worked fine yesterday...
[21:51] <dmcglone> I can change the permissions  on other files though!
[21:54] <dmcglone> I had to move the file to a different directory, change the permissions and then move it back :-/
[22:16] <BiosElement> Ahh, the joys of shared hosting
[23:17] <BiosElement> dmcglone: Around?
[23:17] <BiosElement> You'll probably find this useful: http://bioselement.com/2011/awesome-wordpress-theme-lists/
[23:17] <BiosElement> Cheri703: You may want to check that out too, I think you said you were starting a WordPress powered blog.
[23:17] <Cheri703> well, I'm going to be working on a website, not sure if I'm going wordpress or not :)
[23:17] <Cheri703> but thanks :)
[23:19] <BiosElement> Yep
[23:19] <Unit193> I just stole the on canthus13 was using and got "Zombie Apocalypse" while I was at it
[23:22] <BiosElement> hah


[00:01] <Keybuk> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/dbus-1.1.20-exit.patch
[00:01] <Keybuk> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/dbus-1.1.20-bus-addresses-shutdown.patch
[00:01] <Keybuk> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/dbus-1.1.20-shared-connections-shutdown.patch
[00:06] <ion_> I see you use vim as well. :-)
[00:08] <Keybuk> vim?
[00:08] <Keybuk> oh, heh
[00:08] <Keybuk> I'm strange
[00:08] <Keybuk> I usually have both vim and emacs open at any one time
[00:10] <ion_> Don't they try to kill each other in the style of the animation "flash animation fights back"? :-)
[00:47] <Keybuk> meh
[00:47] <Keybuk> somewhere along the line, my test case failure for the first patch got lost
[00:47] <Keybuk> so now it fails by just exiting mid-tests
[00:52] <Keybuk> Testing nih_dbus_bus()
[00:52] <Keybuk> ...with session bus
[00:52] <Keybuk> ...with system bus
[00:52] <Keybuk> ...with disconnection before registration
[00:52] <Keybuk> BAD: unexpected exit(), unpatched D-Bus?
[00:52] <Keybuk> 	at tests/test_dbus.c:369 (test_bus).
[00:52] <Keybuk> better
[02:04] <Keybuk> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~keybuk/libnih/trunk/revision/scott%40netsplit.com-20080418010152-l1gnavvxqqej62jt?start_revid=scott%40netsplit.com-20080418010152-l1gnavvxqqej62jt
[02:05] <Keybuk> ^ that's the "glue" bit of the D-Bus API committed
[11:51] <Keybuk> grr
[11:51] <Keybuk> D-Bus is winning again today
[11:53] <Keybuk> I don't _quite_ understand what these guids are for yet
[13:38] <Keybuk> and still have icky valgrind traces from it :p
[17:01] <Gadi> hi, all.  Is there a way to specify in the event.d file what vt to output to (ie, chvt 3 and exxecutes some program)?
[17:01] <Gadi> if I do "console output" and then chvt in the script that gets executed, the output still goes to vt1
[17:10] <Keybuk> Gadi: use a program like openvt
[17:21] <Gadi> Keybuk: I actually found a way to get what I want by suppressing all rcS/rc2 console msgs with "console none" - I love oneliners
[17:21] <Gadi> :)
[18:25] <Keybuk> :-)(
[18:26] <Keybuk> 0.5 jobs can now have
[18:26] <Keybuk>   oom killer
[18:26] <Keybuk> err
[18:26] <Keybuk>   oom never
[18:26] <Keybuk> in their definition
[18:30] <ion_> Great
[18:31] <Keybuk> pls anything from oom -16 (almost never kill)
[18:31] <Keybuk> thru to oom +15 (ooh! ooh! kill me! kill me!)
[18:32] <ion_> How about setting niceness and ioniceness in the job definition as well? (I can't remember whether any of this is implemented already.)
[18:32] <Keybuk> nice is in there
[18:32] <Keybuk> ionice isn't though, how do you set that?
[18:35] <ion_> Well, there’s ionice(1), but i don’t know what it calls.
[18:35] <Keybuk> ioprio_set
[18:36] <ion_>        -c     The scheduling class. 1 for real time, 2 for best-effort, 3 for idle.
[18:36] <ion_>        -n     The scheduling class data. This defines the class data, if the class accepts an argument. For real time and best-effort, 0-7 is valid data.
[18:36] <ion_> I was thinking of equivalent values in the job description,
[18:37] <Keybuk> ionice realtime 4
[18:37] <ion_> Yeah
[18:40] <Keybuk> of course, there's no prototype for that one yet
[18:40] <Keybuk> I'll leave that one for now, can you file a wishlist bug to remind me to get to it later?
[18:41] <ion_> Will do.
[19:17] <Keybuk> http://rafb.net/p/jkcW3x33.html
[19:17] <Keybuk> ugh
[19:25] <Keybuk> heh
[19:25] <Keybuk> dbus-daemon does it too
[19:26] <Keybuk> so I'm going to stop caring :p
[19:28] <ion_> :-)
[19:34] <Keybuk> I have better things to do than valgrind dbus-daemon and fix their bugs as well as my own :p
[19:34] <ion_> Heh
[20:28] <elventear> Is there some source where I can look at all the events that upstart recognizes natively?
[20:30] <Keybuk> elventear: events.h
[20:30] <Keybuk> it's not very many
[20:31] <elventear> thx
[20:55]  * Keybuk finishes fixing D-Bus anyway
[21:02] <Keybuk> (adding another patch to the list)
[21:08] <Keybuk> in other news, I passed PPL Meteorology today \o/
[21:09] <ion_> Congrats


[05:51] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[06:05] <Squirm> morning
[06:05] <Squirm> hehe, Kilos, I beat you to fp today
[06:05] <Squirm> :P
[06:06] <Kilos> hehe, hiya squirm
[07:31] <magespawn> morning early birds
[07:40] <superfly> morning Kilos magespawn etc
[07:50] <magespawn> hey superfly
[07:52] <magespawn> seems like Kilos is becoming a bit of a lurker himself
[07:56] <magespawn> hey you guys also struggling with international access this morning?
[07:56] <smile4> magespawn: what do you mean? :)
[07:56] <magespawn> my gmail is timing out the whole time
[07:56] <smile4> btw, someone able to speak Swedish or Turkish here? :)
[07:56] <smile4> magespawn: i'll check
[07:56] <smile4> mine is up, magespawn
[07:57] <magespawn> think you will be outa luck with request
[07:57] <smile4> :|
[07:57] <magespawn> mine is up but very slow, sea monkey mail keeps timing out on my google apps domain
[07:57] <smile4> maybe google apps is down
[07:58] <magespawn> mm maybe
[07:58] <magespawn> also cannot get throught to www.seamonkey-project.org
[07:59] <smile4> magespawn: I can. maybe something wrong with ur own connection
[07:59] <smile4> :p
[07:59] <magespawn> or a link between me and them
[08:01] <smile4> yea :(
[08:02] <smile4> magespawn: try using a proxy
[08:02] <magespawn> actually look like it is just the windows machine
[08:04] <magespawn> lol yup just the windows machine
[08:05] <smile4> xD
[08:06] <smile4> magespawn: boot into ubuntu :)
[08:06] <magespawn> mm
[08:06] <magespawn> prefer to solve the problem
[08:11] <Symmetria> oh what the hell
[08:11] <Symmetria> there is no one who releases bigger patches than blizzard
[08:11] <Symmetria> 5.5gig patch!
[08:12] <Symmetria> when you first install it, its a 10gig download, then it downloads another 6gig initial patch, and now a month later its downloading another 5.5gig
[08:12] <Symmetria> :p
[08:15] <magespawn> that would hurt most ppl
[08:15] <Symmetria> hurts me as well :P lol
[08:17] <magespawn> I would find it hard to believe that you are not on some sort of uncapped connection
[08:17] <Symmetria> lol of course I am, but it still takes ages
[08:18] <magespawn> whats ages?
[08:19] <Kerbero> minutes not seconds
[08:19] <magespawn> at least it is not hours or days
[08:20] <Kerbero> 12 minutes on my connection
[08:20] <Kerbero> but only if they have an IS cache
[08:20] <Kerbero> like steam
[08:20] <magespawn> see on mine that would take days
[08:28] <Symmetria> heh
[08:29] <Symmetria> I did the original installation with all 16gigs of downloads when I first installed this in 15 minutes
[08:29] <Symmetria> straight off the net
[08:29] <Symmetria> but lol, at home, 5gigs takes a few hours
[08:36]  * Symmetria goes back to trying to sort out his mp3 id3 tags
[08:36] <Symmetria> heh this is time consuming and painful
[08:38] <magespawn> is there not an automatic way to sort them?
[08:39] <nuvolari> aloha
[08:39]  * nuvolari tips hat
[08:41] <Symmetria> heh magespawn Im using a rather nice tag editor
[08:41] <Symmetria> that gets tags from online etc
[08:41] <Symmetria> but still gotta verify what its doing album for album
[08:41] <Symmetria> and Im kinda anal about how stuff is named and structured in my collection to be able to find anything so it takes time
[08:41] <Symmetria> lots of time
[08:42] <Symmetria> I think Ive correctly tagged the first 3 thousand outta 8 thousand albums :p
[08:45] <Kilos> hey magespawn i been out by the sheep moving to other grazing and checking they dont eat the roses and shrubs
[08:52] <smile4> Maybe someone wants to translate some Afrikaans at https://translations.launchpad.net/emesene/trunk/+pots/emesene/af/+translate ? :)
[08:52] <smile4> That would be very kind :)
[08:56] <Symmetria> heh I have to say, the amount of ram in this machine of mine actually makes a significant difference when doing mass mp3 tag edits and stuff
[08:56] <Symmetria> because the rescanning of the directory structures and inserting of album art is a LOT faster
[09:02] <Kerbero> are you using media monkey?
[09:14] <Symmetria> using tag scanner
[09:14] <Kerbero> ok
[09:15] <Symmetria> it works pretty well
[09:24] <magespawn> no prob kilos was more a joke than anything
[09:24] <Kilos> ok youre forgiven
[09:25] <magespawn> have read Full Circle Magazine?
[09:26] <magespawn> superfly did you remove the HTC sense?
[09:26] <Kilos> nope didnt get them
[09:26] <Symmetria> heh Kerbero see msg
[09:27] <psydroid> hi Kilos Symmetria magespawn superfly and others
[09:27] <psydroid> hoi Kerbero
[09:27] <Kilos> hi psydroid Kerbero Symmetria
[09:27] <magespawn> Kilos they make pretty good reading
[09:27] <magespawn> hey psydroid
[09:28] <Kilos> magespawn, you got a link to the download for me plse
[09:28] <Symmetria> *sigh* one day I will replace every mp3 I have with flac files
[09:28] <Symmetria> but the bandwidth, and the disk space, is just crazy
[09:50] <magespawn> here you go Kilos http://fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads/
[09:50] <magespawn> that is the download page for allof their issues
[09:50] <magespawn> hold on a second
[09:51] <magespawn> they are supposed to have a link to download a whole load of issues at once but I get a 403 error
[09:52] <magespawn> this is that link http://dl.fullcirclemagazine.org/bundle/
[09:54] <magespawn> Symmetria: how does the size compare to mp3?
[09:55] <magespawn> what is the tag editor called?
[09:56] <Kerbero> [11:14] <Symmetria> using tag scanner
[09:56] <Kerbero> that is the name
[09:56] <Kerbero> and i think flacs are about 10-20x bigger
[09:58] <magespawn> ty Kerbero
[09:58] <magespawn> is there a significant advantage in moving to flacs besides being open source?
[09:58] <Kerbero> sound quality
[09:58] <Kerbero> is flac opensource?
[09:58] <Kerbero> flac is lossless
[09:58] <magespawn> thing so
[09:58] <magespawn> think
[09:59] <Kerbero> aren't you thinking of ogg
[09:59] <magespawn> http://flac.sourceforge.net/
[09:59] <Kilos> ty magespawn
[09:59] <Kerbero> ahh
[09:59] <Kerbero> cool
[09:59] <magespawn> np Kilos
[10:01] <magespawn> is tag scanner for linux? i can ony see one for windows?
[10:06] <Symmetria> windows sadly
[10:06] <Symmetria> but heh, sitll the best tag editor out there, believe me, Ive tried LOADS of them
[10:06] <Symmetria> magespawn heh, flac is lossless
[10:06] <Symmetria> so the quality is WAY higher
[10:06] <Symmetria> thats the advantage, the disadvantage is the size
[10:07] <Symmetria> average album on flac format is anywhere from 350 to 500 meg big
[10:07] <magespawn> I would have get new storage
[10:07] <Symmetria> and unless you get the flacs that have been ripped direct from cds or something else, it is POINTLESS converting mp3s to flacs (the quality already got cost in the initial conversion)
[10:08] <Kerbero> practical information theory
[10:08] <Symmetria> put it this way, 1215 albums in mp3 format is around 90gig, in flac, 300 albums is around the same size :p
[10:09] <Symmetria> heh if you downloading the stuff you also need bandwidth, lots of it :p
[10:09] <magespawn> i think i will stick with mp3 for now then
[10:10] <Symmetria> heh I dont get it, blizzard supposed to only release MoP on the 25th
[10:10] <Symmetria> but it would seem that by pre-ordering I got it early :P
[11:50] <magespawn> later all
[12:00] <smile4> bye everyone
[12:00] <smile4> :)
[14:03]  * Squirm yawns
[14:59] <nuvolari> brrr
[15:00] <nuvolari> chilly here by the coast
[15:00] <Kilos> lo nuvolari
[15:00] <nuvolari> oh hi oom Kilos  :)
[15:00] <nuvolari> how are you doing?
[15:00] <nuvolari> hmm, major lag :-/
[15:00] <Kilos> not too bad ty and you?
[15:01] <nuvolari> I'm good thank you!
[15:50] <smile4> hi :)
[17:18] <Kilos-> oh my. was disconnected without even losing internet connection
[18:01] <Kilos-> hi Trixar_za welcome to the morgue
[18:01] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos-
[18:01] <Kilos> hi acherv
[18:01] <acherv> Kilos: hi
[18:02] <acherv> how are U?
[18:02] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[18:02] <acherv> fine
[18:03] <Kilos> wb smile4
[18:03] <smile4> thanks :|
[18:03] <smile4> I clicked wrong
[18:03] <smile4> :p
[18:03] <Kilos> hehe
[18:05] <acherv> Kilos: are u using virtualbox
[18:05] <acherv> ?
[18:06] <Kilos> nope
[18:06] <Kilos> i tried it but everything is too slow
[18:07] <acherv> i format my computer
[18:08] <acherv> just ubuntu now
[18:08] <Kilos> i got ubuntu one 3 different drives here
[18:08] <Kilos> 12.04 11.04 and 10.10
[18:09] <acherv> but i need to do something to win7
[18:09] <acherv> lol why?
[18:09] <Banlam> what do you need in win7?
[18:10] <acherv> visual basic thing
[18:10] <Kilos> well the one with 10.10 i cant replace because its extinct, so nursing it.
[18:10] <Kilos> 11.04 is experimental on 6g drive
[18:10] <Kilos> 12.04 on 80g sata drive
[18:13] <Kilos> acherv, isnt there a way you can use ubuntu to do it
[18:13] <Symmetria> huh, when did garbage release another album
[18:13] <Symmetria> <3
[18:14] <Symmetria> heh one of the good things about using amazon to tag flac files/mp3s etc, while crawling it with the tagger you start to find albums you didnt know existed :p
[18:34] <smile4> bye :)
[18:34] <Kilos> sleep tight smile4
[18:35] <smile4> thanks, u too :)
[18:43] <magespawn> evening all
[18:43] <Kilos> hey magespawn
[18:44] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[18:45] <magespawn> whats up?
[18:46] <Kilos> wp killing the bulls
[18:46] <magespawn> lol
[18:47] <magespawn> and the sharks?
[18:47] <Kilos> i got the weirdest of probs here
[18:47] <Trixar_za> https://cput.ats.hrsmart.com/cgi-bin/a/highlightjob.cgi?jobid=719
[18:47] <Trixar_za> I never get that one requirement
[18:47] <Kilos> sharks beat cheetahs
[18:47] <Trixar_za> It's a Unix Job right?
[18:48] <Trixar_za> But the one recommendation is: MS Windows server experience
[18:48] <magespawn> what is the prob Kilos?
[18:48] <Trixar_za> Crap
[18:48] <Kilos> 12.04 cant see my external but maverick and 11.04 see it fine
[18:48] <Trixar_za> Did Sarel Pretorius atleast score a few?
[18:48] <Kilos> even gparted here says it cant find /dev/sdd
[18:48] <magespawn> Trixar_za: maybe the want you administer windows from linux?
[18:49] <magespawn> Kilos maybe it is mounted else where.
[18:49] <Trixar_za> You mean run SAMBA?
[18:49] <Trixar_za> Makes sense
[18:50] <Kilos> normally i can get permissions with chown on /media/storage/ but not with 12.04
[18:51] <Kilos> its my usb external magespawn so should show up when plugged in
[18:52] <magespawn> what else is in /dev ?
[18:53] <Kilos> sec i try find out
[18:53] <magespawn> Trixar_za: does seem a bit wierd, maybe the core system runs on Linux, but they want suppport for all the campus.
[18:54] <Kilos> block bsg bus char and lots more
[18:55] <Kilos> wb psydroid
[18:55] <magespawn> hold on Kilos
[18:55] <Kilos> no atwk or notatwk today
[18:56] <Kilos> k
[18:56] <magespawn> and in /media ?
[18:58] <Kilos> apt  backupprecise  floppy  floppy0
[18:59] <Kilos> that drive is in 2 partitions backup and storage
[19:00] <magespawn> that is where my external is, but that is on 9.04
[19:00] <Kilos> normally i would go to them via /media/backup
[19:00] <Kilos> yeah mine was always in media
[19:00] <Kilos> even gparted cant find it
[19:01] <Kilos> dunno if its 12.04 or the gigabyte mb
[19:01] <Kilos> tried in other usb ports... same thing
[19:04] <magespawn> sounds like it is not auto mounting
[19:04] <Kilos> ya
[19:06] <Kilos> ill install mountpy and see what happens
[19:07] <Kilos> but head thumpin so will go on tomorrow
[19:07] <Kilos> you all have a good night
[19:07] <Kilos> ty for the help magespawn
[19:07] <magespawn> no worries Kilos good night
[19:07] <Kilos> ty
[19:31] <magespawn> later all
[19:34]  * Symmetria starts his nightly rsync to backup his music collection and tries to decide if he wants to read, watch a movie or just go to bed :p
[19:48] <Symmetria> holy crap
[19:48] <Symmetria> no one buy that new garbage album
[19:48] <Symmetria> its... GARBAGE