[17:08] <CreativeWolf> tried apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade as well
[17:08] <CreativeWolf> it's all up to date
[17:09] <Rimann> Norbin i believe its system settings>appearance>behavior
[17:09] <Norbin> Rimann:  nope
[17:09] <Norbin> no such option there
[17:09] <Rimann> Norbin i'm sorry that is the launcher
[17:10] <genii> CreativeWolf: Try apt-get install --reinstall iptables
[17:10] <Guest82990> hi all
[17:11] <Guest82990> what can i do with a broken kubuntu system where the release-upgrade failed me?
[17:11] <CreativeWolf> genii, trying that now
[17:12] <Guest82990> i can't boot even into a terminal, i can't run apt-get since libstdc++6 has been deleted in the process
[17:13] <CreativeWolf> genii - root@creativewolf:/home/cw# iptables -L
[17:13] <CreativeWolf>  gives modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'ip_tables': Exec format error iptables v1.4.21: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[17:17] <genii> CreativeWolf: What says result of: file /sbin/xtables-multi
[17:18] <CreativeWolf> genii, /sbin/xtables-multi: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=2c9ed0066bf6c84ca2ec376223bb36854c8ab94d, stripped
[17:19] <genii> CreativeWolf: So 32bit binary. Does that match with the output of: uname -m  ?
[17:20] <CreativeWolf> genii, uname -m gives x86_64
[17:20] <Norbin> Rimann: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity always-show-menus true
[17:20] <Norbin> that did the trick
[17:20] <Norbin> i wonder if it's saved through reboot :P
[17:20] <Norbin> FINALLY
[17:20] <Norbin> this is<PHONE_NUMBER>% better
[17:20] <Norbin> hate the auto hide so much :/
[17:21] <genii> CreativeWolf: So there's your problem.
[17:21] <CreativeWolf> genii, the kernel being 64 bit?
[17:22] <genii> CreativeWolf: Yes, 64bit kernel and trying to run 32bit binary
[17:22] <CreativeWolf> genii, how do I get the 64bit binary for iptables?
[17:24] <Web10> good people of Latin America ?
[17:25] <Web10> people of Latin America
[17:25] <CreativeWolf> Web10, C'mon, ask your question, all are good people here, someone will help :)
[17:26] <santiwilly> #marionette
[17:26] <genii> CreativeWolf: Try: apt-get install iptables:amd64
[17:26]  * genii runs back to work
[17:26] <Web10> I thank you very much again
[17:28] <Web10> CreativeWolf,  I am a rookie but my question about the ip
[17:28] <CreativeWolf> Web10, ask away please, someone will help.
[17:28] <genii> Web10: Depending upon which Latin America country, there are many channels for different languages and nations
[17:28] <Web10> :)
[17:29] <CreativeWolf> genii, if you aren't running back to work, it says E: Unable to locate package iptables
[17:30] <Rimann> trying to execute script in terminal, file is in current directory. access denied?
[17:31] <CreativeWolf> Rimann, Check file permissions?
[17:31] <maxvi> can I use desktop app for google hangouts?
[17:31] <genii> CreativeWolf: Does the output of: apt-config dump| grep Architecture      ...show amd64, i386, or both?
[17:31] <Web10> pueden please explicar paso a paso Disculpen Que novato mar
[17:32] <CreativeWolf> genii, Shows only i386
[17:33] <Web10> see your ip that crazy
[17:33] <AGSL> nhe
[17:34] <genii> CreativeWolf: What about apt-cache policy linux-image-$(uname -r)
[17:34] <AGSL> #portugal
[17:34] <genii> !pt
[17:35] <geosearchef> How do I install a driver for a dedicated graphics card on an optimus laptop (haswell + gt 740m)? When using optirun i just get the error: "Cannot access secondary gpu". (dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12555400/)
[17:36] <Web10> not many people living in chile :(
[17:36] <CreativeWolf> Web10, join #ubuntu-br please
[17:36] <genii> Web10: If your first language is Spanish, you can also join #ubuntu-es
[17:37] <CreativeWolf> genii, http://pastebin.com/E8d3EZzL
[17:37] <Web10> CreativeWolf,  genii  thank you
[17:38] <Web10>  join #ubuntu-es
[17:38] <geosearchef> you need a /
[17:38] <Web10> join #ubuntu-es
[17:40] <CreativeWolf> Web10, type /join #ubuntu-es
[17:40] <Web10> CreativeWolf, forgiveness bind my keyboard
[17:41] <CreativeWolf> Web10, no problem :)
[17:45] <hexagonSun_> hello friends, I'm on ubuntu 14.04 LTS, facing an issue with my display configuration, I use an Nvidia GeForce GT 430 gpu and I use the NVIDIA X Server Settings proprietary driver, now, every time I turn my computer on, I have to configure my resolution and monitor underscan, how can I make it so it works "for ever"?
[17:48] <genii> CreativeWolf: So your kernel is 32bit, binary is 32bit. Although according to uname, it's running on a 64 bit machine. It makes the "exec format error" very odd, that's usually what you see when trying to run a binary of a different platform than the kernel
[17:49] <CreativeWolf> genii, hmmm...all I did was apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[17:49] <djjeff_> !glib
[17:49] <minas114> Hi. I open "personal file sharing" and I see "this feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on your system". What am I missing?
[17:49] <djjeff_> !libglib
[17:50] <CreativeWolf> genii, is there a way forward or should I start from scratch? :/
[17:50] <djjeff_> !info libglib
[17:50] <Addi> #smogon
[17:50] <genii> CreativeWolf: I might try getting ahold of someone at DigitalOcean support first
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> !find libglib
[17:50] <C_minus> hello can I check if I've understood something correctly? Problem: I have dual boot Win7 and Ubuntu, but I made the Ubuntu partition too small. Solution: Use my Ubuntu installer mem-stick to open GParted, shrink the Win7 partition and grow the Ubuntu partition. Confusing part: I may encounter problems booting into either OS, because of bootloaders being erased. In this case, I must use the Win7 and/or Ubuntu installer sticks to repa
[17:50] <CreativeWolf> genii, okay...
 : did you install samba?
[17:51] <genii> CreativeWolf: Could be some issue specific to their repositories
[17:51] <minas114> pmaxk, nope
[17:51] <tombtc> guys what would be the command to use scp to copy files on a non-standard port?
[17:51] <reisio> C_minus: too long, cut off
[17:51] <reisio> C_minus: shrinking shouldn't play with your boot loaders, but you can reinstall them with install media for either OS
[17:52] <rimtay> hey guys
[17:52] <pmaxk> you must have a public file in home dir..
[17:52] <reisio> rimtay: bye-o
[17:53] <Addi> Hi
[17:53] <tombtc> pmaxk:  I cannot choose the path?
[17:53] <reisio> hi addi
[17:53] <pmaxk> what path?
[17:53] <tombtc> something like scp /filepath/to/file/to/copy user@IP-address:localpath
[17:54] <tombtc> but with non-22 port
[17:54] <genii> CreativeWolf: Can you pastebin result of: ldd /sbin/xtables-multi    ...so we can see if it's trying to use some non-32bit libraries?
[17:54] <lagbox> -P
[17:55] <tombtc> do you put -P after :localpath?
[17:55] <lagbox> should be able to put it where ever its just a flag
[17:56] <genii> tombtc: For simplicity put it right after the scp command like: scp -P 999  /yadda etc@somewhere
[17:57] <C_minus> Oh OK, I was reading this and was confused: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions#Windows_Vista_and_Windows_7, and then didn't fully understand this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader
[17:57] <CreativeWolf> genii, http://pastebin.com/qv29QGcr
[17:57] <C_minus> adn this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[17:58] <parapan> I lost the login credentials to a 10.04 lts server ..what can I do ?
[17:59] <C_minus> Has anybody done this before: resize both Win7 partition and Ubuntu partition using GParted?
[17:59] <tombtc> genii:  thanks! worked
[17:59] <ratrace> parapan: reboot to rescue mode, mount and fix the problem
[17:59] <C_minus> Should I do one at a time: first shrink Win7, leaving free space, and see if I need to fix the Win7 bootloader (with the mem stick). Then grow Ubuntu, and see if I need to repair its bootloader?
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> parapan  what ratrace says: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[18:01] <nullx> is there such thing as a bad ethernet card driver on ubuntu?  I'm having very slow speeds over lan transfers of files over any protocol: smb, sftp,  nfs, ftp, etc... but the internet connectivity is fine
[18:02] <C_minus> sorry got cut off there
[18:03] <parapan> MonkeyDust: with that procedure you can reset the root password ?
[18:03] <parapan> or you have to have a different than root username ?
[18:04] <genii> CreativeWolf: Yeah, that output looks fine, although you do still have legacy location of just /lib/ instead of the current location of /lib/i386-linux-gnu/
[18:04] <CreativeWolf> genii, hmmm
[18:06] <k1l_> C_minus: just from resizing the partitions (and not changing the amount or the sporting of them) should not interfer with the bootloader
[18:07] <genii> CreativeWolf: Do the files listed on the ldd output which are in just /lib/  ( libip4tc.so.0  libip6tc.so.0 and  libxtables.so.10 ) also exist in the /lib/i386-linux-gnu/   directory?
[18:07] <C_minus> k1l so is this just a kind of disclaimer about something that MIGHT happen, but shouldn't normally?
[18:08] <k1l_> C_minus: its murphys law. if you dont have backups of the important files things will go wrong :)
[18:09] <genii> CreativeWolf: Because it might be a case where it's using the ones in /lib/ first where it finds them but later editions in the other one might be what's needed
[18:09] <k1l_> C_minus: i dont see where the resizing part says you need to reinstall anything?
[18:09] <CreativeWolf> genii, checking...
[18:10] <CreativeWolf> genii, no, those files aren't in /lib/i386-linux-gnu/
[18:10] <C_minus> On the page for "Resizing Win7 partitions": "If you find you cannot boot into Windows, this guide on recovering Windows may help. <link to this page>: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringWindows
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> parapan  that page explains it better than I could do
[18:11] <genii> Hm
[18:12] <k1l_> C_minus: well. i never heard of that issue mentioned there. also i always suggest to use the resize tools from inside windows system settings to resize the windows. but gparted does the job, too
[18:13] <C_minus> Also, how does the Ubuntu partition react to being resized? Is it OK with that usually?
[18:13] <fred1807> : my sd card, /dev/sdb has 3 partitions sdb1 is fat32, sdb2 and sdb3 are ext4. How do I mount all of them from cmd line?
[18:13] <k1l_> C_minus: yes, that is an easy one usually.
[18:14] <k1l_> C_minus: but again. everytime you touch a hdd, the hdd itself can have hardware issues etc. so better have backups than to be sorry afterwars
[18:14] <k1l_> *d
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> fred1807  create a folder per partition, then mount eacht partiton to its folder
[18:14] <fred1807> MonkeyDust:  Do I have to specify fat32, ext4?...
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> fred1807  if you have to do that, you'l get an error message
[18:15] <C_minus> k1l that's the thing, I would love to use Win7's Disk Management to do it, but it only lets me shrink a tiny bit. Even after following all the tutorials about disabling page file etc. etc.
[18:15] <genii> CreativeWolf: What says result of: apt-cache policy libxtables10
[18:15] <k1l_> C_minus: did you defrag it?
[18:15] <fred1807> MonkeyDust:  Can I use 1 command to mont all of them automagically?
[18:16] <C_minus> IS this how GRUB works: Small bootloader that allows each OS to keep its own bootloader in its own partition (chain-bootloading?)? So Win7 has it's own one, Ubuntu has another one... No?
[18:17] <CreativeWolf> genii, http://pastebin.com/y7Xpvdhr
[18:17] <C_minus> k1l, I did but it's pretty fresh install, barely used it so far.
[18:19] <genii> CreativeWolf: Try apt-get install --reinstall libxtables10     ( we already did this with the iptables, which would have overwritten 3 of 4 of those library files from the ldd output, the other one belongs to this package)
[18:21] <zerothis1> Does anyone know if and where I can get an English version of NeoKylin?
[18:22] <CreativeWolf> genii, did that, same error messages with iptables -L
[18:22] <genii> CreativeWolf: I'm fresh out of ideas on it right now
[18:22] <CreativeWolf> genii, Thanks though! :)
[18:23] <CreativeWolf> genii, I think I might take a backup and get back to 14.04. Been running in to one too many issues with 15.04 not just on this box, on another one as well.
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> fred1807  no, but you can type all the commands in one lie, with ; in between
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> line*
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> fred1807  or maybe with a script
[18:25] <C_minus> What's the most comprehensive backup I can do without making a complete image of my Ubuntu partition?
[18:26] <C_minus> Is there a command to view a list of everything I've installed?
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  rsync - a --progress ~ [from] [to]
[18:27] <lagbox> dpkg -l | grep ii    maybe
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  rsync -a --progress ~ [from] [to]
[18:29] <fred1807> how do I use the GUI file manager with sudo powers?
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> fred1807  if you have to ask, you shouldnt do it
[18:30] <hexagonSun_> every time I turn my computer on, I have to configure my resolution and monitor underscan, how can I make it so it works "for ever"?
[18:31] <fred1807> MonkeyDust:  I am navigating trought the files of a SD card , it is a raspberry system, andI want to recover it
[18:31] <fred1807> MonkeyDust: Root files
[18:31] <C_minus> Why do people say it's easier/better to begin with Win7 and then install Ubuntu?
[18:31] <C_minus> (rather than the other way round)?
[18:31] <Finetundar> C_minus: because, 7 will override grub
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  because windows ruins the grub menu
[18:32] <Finetundar> C_minus: Trust me, I've done it too many times
[18:32] <C_minus> But then can't I just run the Ubuntu installer stick and hit "repair"?
[18:32] <genii> C_minus: Windows only wants it's own bootloader to be installed and doesn't play nice with other ones
[18:32] <k1l_> C_minus: the windows install will override all bootloaders and doesnt care about other OS
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  yes, you can repair it, if you like to fix things
[18:33] <k1l_> C_minus: of course you can. but its kind of doubled work.
[18:33] <k1l_> C_minus: and windows wants to sit in the first partitions in most times.
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> some people actually like to break and fix things
[18:33] <C_minus> So it's actually pretty easy - just more work/sitting around waiting for progress bars to fill up?
[18:33] <Finetundar> C_minus: no
[18:34] <C_minus> what else do you have to do besides running the Ubuntu rpair stick then? Because that sounds pretty easy
[18:34] <Finetundar> C_minus: Unless things have changed there's a lot of terminal work required to restore grub
[18:34] <k1l_> C_minus: the easiest way is to install windows and then ubuntu. the other ways do work but need more work. that is way most guides and people say: do it the easy way
[18:35] <k1l_> Finetundar: there is boot-repair which helps out in most cases.
[18:36] <Finetundar> k1l_: never had any luck with that
[18:37] <C_minus> what kind of things in terminal? if I need to run the Win7 bootloader repair tool, will that mess up the Ubuntu bootloader/GRUB?
[18:39] <Finetundar> C_minus: almost guranteed.  But why do you want to install windows after installing ubuntu?
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[18:40] <k1l_> C_minus: you are making that a lot more complicated than it should be
[18:40] <Finetundar> ^^
[18:41] <C_minus> I already have Win7 and Ubuntu. But Ubuntu needs to gro, Win7 needs to shrink. Guides said maybe have to repair Win7 bootloader after this process: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-gparted-to-resize-your-windows-vista-partition/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions#Windows_Vista_and_Windows_7
[18:41] <akik> C_minus: if you write grub to the start of your linux partition, you can dd it to a file and then later in windows add it to windows boot loader with bcdedit
[18:41] <Finetundar> C_minus: so use gparted on a live image to reallocate space
[18:41] <mariano1_> Hi all, I am using a JAVA program in Ubuntu which displays a lot of messages in the command line. A couple of second after starting the program, the messages are displayed and compiz'sCPU usage raises to more than 100%. Is it normal? Should the compiz process use so much CPU? Or is the problem that my JAVA program displays to much messages in the terminal? When I don't run the JAVA program, then I have no CPU usage problems.
[18:42] <Finetundar> MonkeyDust: I think that's the best guide on that topic that I've seen
[18:43] <rockstar_> anybody knows what is the lubuntu minimalist size after installation?
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> Finetundar  "if all else fails, join #ubuntu"
[18:43] <C_minus> K1l and Finetundar: I'm just saying: that howtogeek page was talking about "Unless you are very lucky, you’ll be greeted with this horrible error message saying “Windows Failed to start.
[18:43] <Finetundar> C_minus: link
[18:43] <C_minus> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-gparted-to-resize-your-windows-vista-partition/
[18:43] <Finetundar> MonkeyDust: well it usually helps
[18:44] <C_minus> [19:41] see also, link
[18:44] <Finetundar> C_minus: that article is old. Things have changed
[18:44] <C_minus> Oh yeah?
[18:45] <Finetundar> C_minus: published in '07.
[18:45] <Finetundar> Very much out of date
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  "Published 08/8/07"
[18:45] <C_minus> I just like to be cautious, read up about all the worst things that can happen after these awkward partitioning shannanigans.
[18:45] <Finetundar> C_minus: ubuntu is much more agreeable now
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> 2007... that's... how many releases ago?
[18:47] <k1l_> the first ones
[18:47] <Finetundar> MonkeyDust: 8 I think
[18:47] <Finetundar> actually no, more like 16 since there's around 2 per year
[18:48] <lagbox> 16
[18:48] <C_minus> OK didn't see that. But the Ubuntu one from 2012 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions#Windows_Vista_and_Windows_7 talks about "If you find you cannot boot into Windows, this guide on recovering Windows may help." and suggests the same as howtogeek - which would cause me problems with GRUB...
[18:50] <parapan> MonkeyDust: ratrace: that page doesn't say anything about changing the root password
[18:50] <C_minus> And in turn, this is proposed as the solution to those GRUB problems: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:50] <Finetundar> C_minus: that's in the event that something goes wrong. More likely thatn not everything will be ok.
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> parapan  remind me?
[18:51] <parapan> MonkeyDust: login to ubuntu 10.04 server , lost credentials ...
[18:52] <parapan> MonkeyDust: the prompter I have sais: Ubuntu server login ......username ........than asks for password ......
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> parapan  yes, it says something about the user password, i'm not sure about the root password
[18:52] <C_minus> Just for conversation's sake then: if one uses the Win7 boot-repair, the problems for GRUB are the same as if Win7 had been installed AFTER Ubuntu?
[18:52] <genii> Yep
[18:52] <Finetundar> C_minus: yes
[18:52] <parapan> MonkeyDust: I do not have a user@server prompter ...I do not know the user also ...
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> parapan  then i don't know
[18:53] <parapan> MonkeyDust: k...looks like I'll have to re-install ...i wanter to avoid this ....
[18:53] <C_minus> So one ought to follow the instructions for restoring the Ubuntu bootloader, GRUB (which you say can be complicated, but this site says just run the wizard: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair)
[18:54] <k1l_> C_minus: the windows "repair" will always wipe all other bootloaders and will not boot other OSs. because of "we have the monopoly"
[18:54] <akik> k1l_: windows boot loader can boot grub
[18:54] <k1l_> since windows8?
[18:54] <C_minus> Thanks MonkeyDust, Finetundar, k1l and the others. You#ve been very helpful for understanding this topic better.
[18:54] <Finetundar> C_minus: You really have nothing to loose if this is a fresh install. Just go for it
[18:54] <akik> k1l_: earlier too
[18:54] <Finetundar> C_minus: np
[18:54] <k1l_> akik: oh.
[18:55] <C_minus> See you later
[18:55] <Finetundar> C_minus: see ya!
[18:55] <akik> k1l_: it's just you copy the mbr 512 bytes into a file and add it to windows boot loader with bcdedit
[18:55] <k1l_> akik: ah, so with manual work
[18:55] <akik> computer work :)
[19:08] <sweb> is there any option for increase inode limit for partion during installation ? reserve block or etc ...
[19:10] <Rimann> just executed a script to fix a broken installation. Now what?
[19:12] <Rimann> error message: a failure occurred attempting to install .NET framework 4
[19:12] <SCHAAP137> sounds like WINE
[19:12] <b-yeezi> Hi All
[19:12] <SCHAAP137> greetings, b-yeezi
[19:12] <Finetundar> b-yeezi: hello there
[19:13] <Finetundar> Rimann: yeah, perhaps re-run the wine .NET 4 installer?
[19:13] <Rimann> SCHAAPI137 WINE does this often? installation was going well until workspaces froze my pc and I had to reboot
[19:13] <Rimann> Finetundar reinstall WINE?
[19:13] <b-yeezi> I've been banging my head on this issue for a while and can't seem to find an answer
[19:13] <Finetundar> Rimann: no, no, just the .NET 4 component
[19:14] <b-yeezi> PPTP VPN is not working on 15.04
[19:14] <Rimann> Finetundar thanks, im an Ubuntu noob, will seek instruction on web. Unless you want to refer me or tell me how
[19:16] <Finetundar> Rimann: I'll help out. Just a sec
[19:16] <Rimann> Finetundar: thanks
[19:17] <parapan> MonkeyDust: it works .....one have to use the passwd root command
[19:18] <Finetundar> Rimann: so do you know how to operate winetricks?
[19:18] <Uhtred> Needing help installing Ubuntu on Dell XPS 13 (9343) Developers Edition. After install I am not able to boot to the new install.
[19:18] <Rimann> Finetundar: no never used Wine before this
[19:18]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[19:18] <reisio> Uhtred: what're you able to do?
[19:20] <Uhtred> After following a few sites and this one in particular (http://hgdev.co/installing-ubuntu-15-04-on-the-dell-xps-13-9343-2015-a-complete-guide-update/) I am still only getting to "No bootable device found."
[19:21] <Finetundra> Rimann: so open a terminal and type" winetricks --gui"
[19:21] <Rimann> Uhtred: are you able to get into BIOS? I have to specifically command my pc to boot Ubuntu due to some changes i made in the boot order while installing.
[19:21] <Rimann> Fintundra: ok
[19:22] <Uhtred> Rimann: I do have access to the BIOS.
[19:22] <Finetundra> Rimann: is it up?
[19:23] <Rimann> Finetundra yes it warned me about being in 64 bit
[19:23] <Rimann> but its up
[19:23] <Finetundra> eh, doesn't matter
[19:24] <Finetundra> so, tick Select default wineprefix cand click ok
[19:24] <MannyLNJ> I'm trying to setup a PPPTP VPN comnnection into my home network. When I try to add the connection it's greyed out
[19:24] <Rimann> Uhtred try looking in your boot options, sorry thats all the help I can give you. Its how i do mine and im new to this
[19:25] <Rimann> Finetundra ok complete
[19:25] <Uhtred> Rimann: I have tried to set the UEFI to the grub but it will not allow me to apply the change. I have full admin control of the BIOS as well.
[19:25] <Finetundra> ok now tick install a windows dll or component and click ok
[19:26] <Rimann> done
[19:27] <Finetundra> now go tick the box that says dotnet40 and click ok and then follow all the instructions it throws up. It may provide warnings but ignore those
[19:28] <Rimann> error this package does not work on 64 bit package: should I just reinstall wine on a 32 bit package?
[19:28] <Finetundra> Rimann: yeah
[19:28] <Rimann> Finetundra thank you I will do that and hopefully it will resolve the problem
[19:29] <Finetundra> Rimann: the 32 bit version of wine usually works much better than the 64 bit.
[19:30] <CarlFK> system settings, time and date, clock, [x] time in other locations, Choose Locations....  Where are those stored?
[19:31] <Rimann> Finetundra: awesome good to know
[19:31] <garle> hi
[19:31] <Finetundra> Rimann:  WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=/home/<yourusername>/.wine/
[19:31] <CarlFK> I can't add any.  if it is a text file I'll just add a text file.
[19:31] <Finetundra> Rimann: that;ll wipe and replace the 64 bit prefix
[19:31] <b-yeezi> I just figured it out. ufw was blocking the vpn
[19:32] <Finetundra> Rimann: run in terminal
[19:33] <quants_> guys im wanting to improve security on my system, any advice?
[19:34] <SCHAAP137> in which aspects quants_ ?
[19:34] <Rimann> Finetundra: Nice thats  much simpler than what I was just about to try
[19:34] <Finetundra> Rimann: :)
[19:34] <quants_> SCHAAP137 i want to ensure im safe while online
[19:34] <SCHAAP137> quants_: in a software sense?
[19:36] <Finetundra> Rimann: you'll find that you can have more than one wineprefix and different versions per prefix. It can get crazy
[19:36] <Bashing-om> !virus | quants_
 why dont i need protection?
[19:37] <wileee> quants, your question is rather vague, safe is your definition, you're the safe factor in the end, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity
[19:39] <Bashing-om> quants_: If this is a stand-alone system. uninx is a cloased system and nothing can get to the 'root' of the system unless YOU do something that is ILL advised . Presently there are no known viruses in the wild that will effect linux .
[19:39] <Bashing-om> closed*
[19:40] <Uhtred> Needing help installing Ubuntu on Dell XPS 13 (9343) Developers Edition. After install I am not able to boot to the new install. After following a few sites and this one in particular (http://hgdev.co/installing-ubuntu-15-04-on-the-dell-xps-13-9343-2015-a-complete-guide-update/) I am still only getting to "No bootable device found."
[19:40] <SCHAAP137> Uhtred: have you tried entering the UEFI boot menu? there might be an entry for Ubuntu in there
 i am using Ubunto 14.04 lts
[19:41] <nicomachus> I thought the XPS 13 came with it preinstalled?
[19:41] <Uhtred> SCHAAP137: I have and I am not able to apply the change so it is lost as soon as I exit the BIOS.
[19:42] <Bashing-om> quants_: The distro and release makes no difference so long as it has continued support . If this is a stand-alone system you have nothing to fear .
[19:42] <SCHAAP137> Uhtred: similar issue is described here: http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/f/4613/t/19631468
[19:43] <SCHAAP137> about not being able to change UEFI boot order
 stand alone??
[19:43] <SCHAAP137> Uhtred: it could be that "Secure Boot" is playing a part in this
[19:44] <Uhtred> SCHAAP137: I have checked that as well and it is disabled. It was disabled by default since this Laptop came with Ubuntu installed on it.]
[19:44] <SCHAAP137> ah okay
[19:44] <Bashing-om> quants_: This system is not  part of a larger LAN or working in a server environment. ( linux can be a carrier to Windows of a virus ) .
 no, its a personal laptop
[19:46] <MannyLNJ> Any CLI tools to help me figure out why my VPN won't connect?
[19:46] <SCHAAP137> Uhtred: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:46] <SCHAAP137> maybe this could work
[19:47] <Uhtred> SCHAAP137: Thanks, I will give these a shot and come back with my results.
[19:47] <SCHAAP137> Uhtred: read the link i sent you, i got it from there
[19:47] <Bashing-om> quants_: Then, you have nothing to worry about, and nothing to do . Until such time as you open the system up to the outside world what is impemented on the system ( all ports closed by default ) nothing will get to the operating system .
[19:48] <michele_> http://xdcc_CANCEL_X1443117480
[19:48] <reisio> cute
[19:49] <SCHAAP137> that looks like a script failing
[19:49] <arooni> how do i bind a bash script to a particular hot key ?  (ubuntu 14.04)
[19:52] <SCHAAP137> quants_: just keep your packages and system up to date
[19:52] <SCHAAP137> it checks for updates automatically, it's easy
 thanks for the information, can you tell me how to hide myself online, hide my ip address
 thanks
[19:55] <BadDream> hmmm such issues
[19:56] <akik> quants_: you can hide your ip address by not connecting anywhere :)
[19:56] <SCHAAP137> haha, true
[19:56] <akik> also tor, vpn
[19:56] <SCHAAP137> it's the network that makes the machine unsafe
[19:56] <surfer> whats the best way to consume DMT?
[19:56] <lagbox> well that is offtopic
[19:56] <SCHAAP137> !guidelines | surfer
[19:57] <Bashing-om> quants_: There is NO 100% fool-proof way to hide yopur IP .. that IP is your address and is why the internet works. 'tor' might give you some level of comfort .
 thanks :) i need to be anonymous
 i am using stealthy on chrome at the moment but ill give tor a go. can i do anything in the terminal that will help?
[19:58] <nicomachus> quants_ if you are TRULY concerned about anonymity, privacy, and obfuscation, then look into the TAILS OS: https://tails.boum.org/
[19:59] <Bashing-om> quants_: Then, do not connect to the internet . There is no way to be up and at the same time be completely anonymous .
[19:59] <nicomachus> but Bashing-om is right that there's no foolproof method.
[19:59] <tykayn1> hi guys
[20:00] <tykayn1> can anyone help me about installing my wifi? the cable network rj45 works, but the wifi is not detected.
 its ok im not into anthing shifty but i just like to be safe
[20:01] <SCHAAP137> tykayn1: normally, all supported wireless adapters work "out of the box" - there is a chance that yours is not supported yet
[20:01] <tykayn1> SCHAAP137: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 20)
[20:01] <nicomachus> SCHAAP137: that's being generous, when it comes to USB adapters...
[20:01] <tykayn1> yup i guess
[20:02] <tykayn1> i have a fresh install (well, updated) of ubuntu 14.04
[20:02] <SCHAAP137> tykayn1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/607707/ath10k-installation
[20:02] <SCHAAP137> it's old though
[20:03] <MannyLNJ> when I ssh into my system it says 7 packages can be update and 7 updates are security updates. i did sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade but it still shows the 7 packages
[20:03] <tykayn1> mk
[20:03] <SCHAAP137> from 2011 that post
[20:03] <wileee> MannyLNJ, try dist-upgrade
[20:03] <SCHAAP137> tykayn1: the bottom answer is from july this year though
[20:03] <tykayn1> mkay ill try this
[20:05] <Bashing-om> quants_: Rigft now, you are chasing ghost. You are safe in the default install of ubuntu . If it were other wise 1800 other people here in this channel would have said.
[20:05] <MonsieurBon> I'm trying to get knockd to work. Starting knockd fails. Is there any way to check what the error might be?
[20:05] <Bashing-om> right*
 thanks for your help
[20:06] <tykayn1> done, have to reboot o/
[20:07] <SCHAAP137> that's fast
[20:07] <TechMonger> I have a ubuntu file server with a raid. is there a way to send files to it from a windows computer on the same network?
[20:07] <Bashing-om> quants_: Vondiser, that on the net there are billions of connections present. When you click on any web page, site or chat, if your addres is not known, how would you on your computer receive the response ?
[20:07] <TechMonger> i know i can putty into it but can i rsync files from a windows computer?
[20:08] <Bashing-om> !samba | TechMonger
[20:08] <SCHAAP137> TechMonger: you could use scp, or samba, or nfs
[20:08] <TechMonger> and how do these work?
 fair point
[20:09] <SCHAAP137> scp is just a filecopy over SSH, you'd need something like Cygwin on the windows machine to have it
[20:09] <SCHAAP137> using ssh from Cygwin is preferable to PuTTY, imho
[20:10] <arc__> hello everyone
[20:10] <tykayn> humpf, still no wifi
[20:10] <k1l_> TechMonger: samba is the same they call "windows data exchange" on the windows boxes.
[20:11] <SCHAAP137> tykayn: you could try using the latest firmware file
[20:11] <SCHAAP137> https://github.com/kvalo/ath10k-firmware/tree/master/10.2.4
[20:11] <jeand_> bonsoir tt le monde
[20:11] <arc__> i have a question. What cant "rm -rf *" do in a specific directory? i mean pwd -> /home/arc/some-dir/ . Does "rm -rf *" remove files and folders on other directories?
[20:12] <tykayn> hmmm SCHAAP137 how do i install it ?
[20:12] <SCHAAP137> that was described in that other post right?
[20:12] <OerHeks> arc__, yes, the -r part means recursive, the -f part = force
[20:13] <arc__> i see a wired thing. i lost everything on my /usr/ directory. i have no /usr/bin directory.
[20:13] <Bashing-om> arc__: That command would remove all files at the Present Working Directory, and ALL files below .
[20:13] <tykayn> mhmhm
[20:15] <arc__> i just can't understand something. with the exact pwd which i said above, why i lost my entire /usr, but some directories in /etc?
[20:15] <reisio> arc__: it matches what * matches, which is some things but not necessarily everything
[20:15] <reisio> and potentially nothing if you have files starting with certain chars
[20:15] <SCHAAP137> ah wait tykayn, this one: https://github.com/kvalo/ath10k-firmware/tree/master/ath10k/QCA6174/hw2.1
[20:15] <reisio> if you want a whole dir gone, target the dir and not its contents
[20:15] <SCHAAP137> firmware-5.bin
[20:16] <arc__> is there any way to recover a specific directory now?
[20:16] <reisio> arc__: /usr/* ?
[20:17] <arc__> no i don't what my usr, i had a lot of downloaded files in /etc/ which i need them.
[20:17] <reisio> arc__: where'd you run it?
[20:17] <BadDream> i installed lubuntu on my dads laptop and theres no wifi drivers....is there a way i can download the drivers on a usb stick and go install them for him?
[20:17] <reisio> BadDream: yup
[20:18] <k1l_> !extundelete | arc__
[20:18] <arc__> "/etc" is where i need back. not /usr.
[20:18] <reisio> arc__: doesn't answer my question
[20:18] <k1l_> arc__: look at extundelete and photorec
[20:18] <k1l_> arc__: but the more you use the hdd after the remove the less data will be found
[20:18] <Bashing-om> BadDream: A fresh install ? Try ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt fll-upgrade ' Then look in "additional Drivers' see if there is a driver available for the WIFI .
[20:18] <arc__> they only problem is how do i install them? with no apt-get and any other utilities?
[20:19] <arc__> should i use a live disk?
[20:19] <k1l_> arc__: if you want any data back shut that system down ASAP
[20:19] <MannyLNJ> wileee, Thanks that is working :-)
[20:19] <wileee> cool
[20:19] <k1l_> use a live system and dont touch that hdd. every using will delete(like override) more data
[20:20] <Bashing-om> BadDream: 'apt full-upgrade' * ^^
[20:23] <tykayn> thanks SCHAAP137 , ill try this later
[20:23] <tykayn> time to go, good night folks :)
[20:25] <MannyLNJ> wileee, the upgrade went in but it still shows 7 packages can be uodated
[20:26] <wileee> MannyLNJ, I have to take off, but I would show this in a paste.
[20:26] <MannyLNJ> wileee, thanks I will later tonight when I have more time
[20:27] <MRX> downloaded ubuntu 15.04
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> MRX  great, are you familiar with ubuntu or is this your first try?
[20:30] <MRX> MonkeyDust: yes
[20:31] <MRX> MonkeyDust: Im an expert in Ubuntu
[20:31] <MRX> MonkeyDust: I have 30 years of linux experience
[20:32] <MRX> madras pasangaa irukeengalaa ?
[20:32] <bekks> Which is impossible, since Linux isnt 30 years old.
[20:32] <reisio> well, linux isn't an OS, either
[20:32] <MRX> bekks: vandutaaan sappuradhuku
[20:33] <reisio> GNU's over 30, and Unix is as well
[20:33] <nemith> yes.  Lets just blindly quote rms
[20:33] <bekks> reisio: But Linux isnt :)
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> MRX  i am RMS
[20:33] <MRX> reisio: appo enna mayiraa
[20:33] <dimitry7> Hello guys! I use this rule to redirect my IAX asterisk port to the PBX server: -A PREROUTING -p udp -m udp --dport 4569 -j DNAT --to-destination <IP_ADDRESS>:4569
[20:33] <MRX> MonkeyDust: RMS ??
[20:33] <reisio> bekks: sure isn't
[20:33] <reisio> bekks: the cleaner probably is that old, though
[20:34] <bekks> reisio: :D
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> MRX  if yoiu were an expert, you'd know who RMS is
[20:34] <dimitry7> but one of the peers is refusing to authenticate, but it is a firewall problem because if I put the PBX in the same server as the firewall, they have no problems.
[20:34] <dimitry7> What can be the issue?
[20:34] <MRX> MonkeyDust: in which subject are you talking about ?
[20:35] <nicomachus> MonkeyDust is not RMS... not possible.
[20:35] <MRX> nicomachus: is it
[20:36]  * OerHeks facepalms
[20:36] <mhall> I have a broken systemd file which will not load that I wrote for a daemon. How do I run a syntax check so I can figure out what in the world is wrong with the file?
[20:36] <MRX> nicomachus: he must be a noob
[20:36] <ryu945> Can centos be installed as a raid
[20:36] <MRX> ryu945: yes
[20:36] <k1l_> ryu945: better ask the centos support
[20:36] <nicomachus> MonkeyDust is not a noob. but he's also not RMS.
[20:37] <MRX> k1l_: i know centos
[20:37] <k1l_> MRX: please drop the offtopic and focus on technical ubuntu support in here. thanks
[20:37] <MRX> veruppu ethaadheengaa da
[20:37] <MRX> k1l_: saavu ku raaki
[20:38] <nicomachus> oh. now I get it. ignore me (as usual).
[20:39] <ryu945> Sorry for some reason I was thinking it was Ubuntu based
[20:40] <mhall> Any clues on systemd file debugging
[20:50] <ork_> test
[20:50] <genii> !test
[20:50] <ork_> thx bot
[20:51] <ork_> hi genii
[20:52] <genii> ork_: Hello. Seems like your IRC client works properly. If you have questions about your Ubuntu just ask them in the channel and wait for a response. For more casual conversation, we have the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:53] <ork_> thx, thats ok
[20:54] <ork_> u a bot or real person
[20:54] <genii> ork_: I can assure you that I'm an actual person. ubottu is a bot, however
[20:54] <nicomachus> genii is real. ubottu is a bot.
[20:54] <barfod> bleep bloop
[20:54] <ork_> ok
[20:54] <barfod> rusts up, malfunctions
[20:56] <DottorLeo> hi!
[20:57] <ork_> i just got ubuntu desktop running on an nvidia shield tablet, finally!
[20:57] <odinei> olá, alguem para suporte em PT-BR?
[20:57] <ork_> hi doterleo
[20:57] <k1l_> !br | odinei
[20:58] <DottorLeo> I want to know if this is a bug that should be reported :) Setup: Ubuntu 14.04, Canon PIXMA MG3550, connected via wifi. Using the free driver, with the printer test page i have all the colour very very dark, using the official .deb driver from Canon site (installing them with the install.sh script), the colours on the testing page are perfect.
[20:59] <DottorLeo> is this a bug?
[20:59] <tgm4883> DottorLeo: possibly
[20:59] <DottorLeo> what info should i report?
[21:00] <SolarNRG> how do I remove the amazon lens?
[21:00] <k1l_> SolarNRG: see the privacy settings in system settings
[21:01] <SolarNRG> why does ubuntu come bundled with spyware hence the privacy polic?
[21:01] <k1l_> !spware | SolarNRG
[21:01] <k1l_> !spyware | SolarNRG
[21:03] <k1l_> SolarNRG: (well, there is no factoid). its not spyware. you dont call your browser spyware, do you? it sends your data out, too. some users want and use that service. if you dont want it disable it or dont use the online search
[21:03] <SolarNRG> does ubuntu have less spyware pre-bundled than microsoft windows?
[21:04] <SolarNRG> I quote ubuntu's privacy policy: e don't share your personal information with anyone except to provide you with services, products, to comply with the law, or to protect our rights.
[21:04] <SolarNRG> note the except part
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> SolarNRG  great, but not in this channel
[21:04] <k1l_> SolarNRG: calling a search, that is labeled as "online search" spyware just reflects to your self as not knowing what you talk about.
[21:05] <ork_> uve got cool bots running in here :)
[21:06] <SolarNRG> kll_ can you please enlighten me with the part that states "except to provide you with services, products, to comply with the law or to protect our rights" means please?
[21:06] <k1l_> SolarNRG: so is there any support question? since you already searched for ubuntus policies etc one can think you only want to start a rant/flamewar in here
[21:07] <silenthush> Hey
[21:07] <ork_> hi hush
[21:07] <silenthush> How's it going? :)
[21:08] <ork_> great, thx :)
[21:08] <ork_> and you?
[21:08] <silenthush> Doing alright really. Just stumbling against a little issue.
[21:09] <silenthush> I'm trying to connect to an SFTP through the default file browser on ubuntu gnome, I got the ppk key and all but not sure how I should go about doing that.
[21:09] <SolarNRG> I'm asking a question
[21:09] <k1l_> SolarNRG: it does as the policy states.
[21:09] <shudon> silenthush: have you successfully connected to SFTP without using nautilus? (gnome file browser)
[21:09] <silenthush> Filezilla just failed on me, keeps giving me a: Disconnected: No supported authentication methods available (server sent: publickey)
[21:10] <silenthush> I have via FileZilla before but I did a fresh install of Ubuntu a few weeks ago and now trying to connect to the server.
[21:11] <silenthush> I had this before, it's so super random. Once I get it to work it works :/
[21:11] <ork_> maybe try and install ssh?
[21:11] <ork_> i am no xpert sry
[21:11] <shudon> silenthush: try this: ssh -v -oPreferredAuthentications=nope user@host
[21:11] <ork_> ^
[21:11] <silenthush> Hmmm ok, sec shudon.
[21:11] <shudon> silenthush: then share with us the last line (should say "Permission denied (something,something)"
[21:12] <silenthush> Should I do anything with the PPK file yet?
[21:12] <shudon> actually, i don't even think you need the -v
[21:12] <shudon> silenthush: nope
[21:12] <silenthush> Ok let me try, sec.
[21:12] <harrot> hi
[21:13] <SolarNRG> so in other words the operating system is spying on you and is sending your information to 3rd parties and by installing ubuntu you inherintly agree to the privacy policy and agree for your personal information to be shared with law enforcement, marketing companies, canonical and other organisations blackmailing the makers of ubuntu, is that correct?
[21:13] <SolarNRG> what I want to know is how is it spying on you
[21:13] <k1l_> SolarNRG: no, the OS is not spying on you
[21:13] <SolarNRG> ??
[21:13] <robert___> hello
[21:13] <SolarNRG> What apps bundled into ubuntu are?
[21:13] <k1l_> SolarNRG: none
[21:13] <robert___> what command do i use to destroy my system?
[21:14] <harrot> lol
[21:14] <silenthush> Warning: Permanently added 'mysite.com,<IP_ADDRESS>' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts.
[21:14] <silenthush> Permission denied (publickey).
[21:14] <k1l_> SolarNRG: if you type a search-word into a browser to get a search result. is that spyware?
[21:14] <silenthush> That's what I get.
[21:14] <barfod> SolarNRG it's not that bad, ubuntu like debian from which it is made is divided into 3 parts
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> robert___  sudo destroy ubuntu
[21:14] <shudon> silenthush: good
[21:14]  * genii smacks MonkeyDust
[21:14] <barfod> and only one of these really represents non-free contractual software
[21:14] <k1l_> robert___: just format the disks.
[21:14] <shudon> silenthush: now run the "file" command on your ppk file
[21:14] <SolarNRG> kll_ I know that the javascript even without hitting enter the moment your finger goes down on 'a' that a has been sent to another site and you are getting feedback and it comes back with a list of suggestions
[21:14] <shudon> silenthush: and share the result :)
[21:14] <silenthush> ./file.ppk like that yeah?
[21:15] <barfod> some open source organizations wish this functionality was not availbale in debian or ubuntu
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> genii  i thought his question was a joke, apologies
[21:15] <shudon> silenthush: no, "file yourfilename.ppk"
[21:15] <k1l_> SolarNRG: so if you know everything, what is the reason you still ask over and over again in here? stop that drama
[21:15] <barfod> but in fact the poltical divide of the repositories allows us to both operate and track freedom oriented softwares. and also utilize non-free of we need
[21:15] <barfod> for instance the only non-free software i use is for my family
[21:15] <ork_> robert, windows vista will do the job ;)
[21:16] <ork_> thx peeps for this great service, kudoos
[21:16] <SolarNRG> Well I ditched windows a few months back, went to Debian but the devs were dicks now I'm using ubuntu and I read this: http://refugeeks.com/ubuntu-spyware-is-it-true/
[21:16] <k1l_> SolarNRG: if you dont want that search-words to be sent online dont use the online search. best to disable the online search then.
[21:16] <SolarNRG> So I am concerned
[21:16] <SolarNRG> And I want to know whether or not my privacy concerns are well founded or not
[21:17] <k1l_> SolarNRG: that is a lot of FUD.
[21:17] <silenthush> shudon, i get this: mykey.ppk: ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators
[21:17] <barfod> SolarNRG debian is a giant organization the people at its core are different than the people you meet in the lobby handing out drinks
[21:17] <silenthush> It's a password protected PPK key as well btw.
[21:17] <shudon> silenthush: huh... weird... afaik ssh only supports PEM format public keys
[21:17] <barfod> pretty sure you know who i am talking about
[21:17] <k1l_> SolarNRG: i told you 3 times now what and how to not get online results (that you call spyware)
[21:17] <shudon> silenthush: for example, here is my ssh public key: /home/hdon/.ssh/id_rsa.pub:          OpenSSH RSA public key
[21:17] <silenthush> Usually on windows I would just have Putty  installed, I open the PPK file, enter the password and just freely connect through WinSCP (or filezilla)
[21:17] <silenthush> Sec
[21:18] <k1l_> barfod: ##linux for that others OS chats, thanks
[21:18] <shudon> silenthush: if you are ABSOLUTELY sure that it's your PUBLIC key (not PRIVATE!) you can safely share it with us to help you further, but i suspect this is the wrong file.
[21:18] <silenthush> Nah I can't share that file unfortunately.
[21:18] <SolarNRG> but isn't ubuntu essentially built off debian?
[21:18] <shudon> silenthush: hmm... i wonder what the ppk format is.. i used it one time a long time ago with putty, also
[21:19] <barfod> k1l_ i think you have a misconception, debian and ubuntu work together
[21:19] <barfod> paultag for instance works on both
[21:19] <shudon> silenthush: try this: http://www.ramsmusings.com/2014/02/20/converting-a-putty-ppk-file-to-a-pem-file-for-accessing-aws-ec2-instances/
[21:19] <silenthush> Ok sec.
[21:19] <auronandace> SolarNRG: ubuntu is based on debian
[21:19] <shudon> silenthush: once you have a pem format public/private key pair, you should be able to use ssh (sftp is just ftp-like protocol tunneled inside ssh)
[21:19] <shudon> (more or less)
[21:19] <k1l_> barfod: we focus on ubuntu support in here. the rest is offtopic. like you know the rules since you were asked to read them more than once.
[21:21] <k1l_> SolarNRG: so what is the issue with a) dont use the online search labeld search if you dont want the search words to be sent online or b) disable that at all in the privacy settings?
[21:21] <SolarNRG> ok, let me backtrack, do you think debian comes bundled with spyware, rootkit, backdoor or whatever?
[21:21] <SolarNRG> I mean it's open source, so surely someone would have seen it in the source code and reported it right?
[21:21] <k1l_> SolarNRG: ubuntu doesnt come with spyware, rootkits or backdoors
[21:21] <shudon> SolarNRG: where do you live?
[21:21] <barfod> SolarNRG not really no
[21:21] <barfod> debian and ubuntu share much of the same code, i don't expect either of backdoors
[21:22] <shudon> SolarNRG: and what's your CPU?
[21:23] <auronandace> SolarNRG: you sound very paranoid and you have been told multiple times that this channel is for support issues and k1l_ has thoroughly addressed your concern
[21:23] <SolarNRG> shudon are you about to suggest what I think you're going to suggest, the OS independent "hypervisor" on all hardware?
[21:23] <shudon> :)
[21:23] <silenthush> shudon, perm key generated, do I now just upload it in the .ssh folder just like the user describes in that tutorial?
[21:23] <shudon> silenthush: well before you do that, you can test the key file
[21:23] <shudon> silenthush: ssh -i yourkeyfile user@host
[21:23] <silenthush> oh ok cool, sec.
[21:23] <barfod> k11 would you like me to end my support for ubuntu on ##linux and the other channels i frequent?
[21:24] <barfod> because i did with arch when they acted this way, and i will with you all as well
[21:25] <silenthush> I get: Permission denied (publickey).
[21:25] <shudon> silenthush: and i don't know a lot about using publickey authentication in nautilus for sftp, BUT if it uses ssh/scp underneath it all, then it will respect your ssh config, in which you can specify what username and key to use for a given host. but maybe nautilus can remember these details on its own and persist it across lost connection or reboot
[21:25] <k1l_> barfod: re read what i wrote. i never said anything like that. if you just want to make again more drama like you are know to do, then please just leave. we want to focus on technical ubuntu support in here. thanks
[21:25] <shudon> silenthush: well that sounds like the private key isn't good for the user@host you're trying to login to
[21:25] <silenthush> hmmmm
[21:25] <silenthush> Its an SFTP
[21:25] <silenthush> Should I specify it like this<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:25] <silenthush> sftp.domain.com*
[21:26] <shudon> silenthush: well the hostname is not a really important thing at this step. ssh will resolve the hostname to an ip address to decide who to connect to, and then attempt to authenticate you. the error you're getting is an authentication error, not another type of error you could get (for instance if the server only wants you to use SCP but not, say, the bash shell)
[21:26] <silenthush> Oh wait it works!
[21:26] <shudon> silenthush: the hostname also matters for verifying the the identity of the remot ehost, but
[21:26] <shudon> silenthush: oh great :D
[21:26] <silenthush> Had a capital letter in my username :P
[21:26] <shudon> silenthush: heh
[21:26] <silenthush> What should I do next silenthush?
[21:27] <silenthush> I mean shudon LOL
[21:27] <shudon> silenthush: alright so, you probably know more about sftp in nautilus than i do. give it a try and if you still have problems, come back :)
[21:27] <silenthush> Oh ok, I'll give that a try now then
[21:27] <shudon> silenthush: you say you've done this before with nautilus (gnome file browser) right?
[21:27] <silenthush> Nah I've done it with FileZilla and FileZilla works too now :)
[21:27] <reborn> http://imgur.com/GDFv3lg  << any idea what's cause this?
[21:27] <shudon> silenthush: when you did it before, did you use password authentication or publickey authentication?
[21:28] <barfod> k1l_ the "please just leave" part was clear from the beginning
[21:28] <shudon> silenthush: ahhh ok
[21:28] <silenthush> Man I think I just messed up with the capital letter hahah because I had it in my FileZilla set as well like that (Facepalm)
[21:28] <shudon> silenthush: well, what i would try then
[21:28] <shudon> silenthush: is to create an ssh config file for your user on your system that's running the nautilus you want to use
[21:28] <shudon> silenthush: you should put your private key someplace safe (mkdir ~/.ssh ; chmod 700 ~/.ssh ; mv yourkey ~./ssh)
[21:29] <k1l_> barfod: since you didnt stop i muted you. if you want to talk about your entries in the bantracker and your actual mute please join #ubuntu-ops
[21:29] <shudon> silenthush: and take a look at this to see some of the things you can do with an ssh config file http://nerderati.com/2011/03/17/simplify-your-life-with-an-ssh-config-file/
[21:29] <silenthush> That is awesome Shudon, I definitely will.
[21:29] <silenthush> Thanks a bunch mate!
[21:30] <shudon> silenthush: you're welcome :)
[21:30] <shudon> bbiab
[21:38] <SolarNRG> k1l you fascist bastard, why did you ban barfod!? Is that what you do to anyone who doesn't agree with you?
[21:39] <SolarNRG> he was a highly knowledgable linux user with a lot to offer the community
[21:39] <k1l_> SolarNRG: a user that got banned in here 5 times already and is a known troll in other channels is not a reason why you call me a fasciest bastard
[21:48] <mierda> Ç?
[21:51] <Rexter> Sticks and stones fellas
[21:52] <ix> hi
[21:53] <Guest83772> v;'
[21:54] <Kaapa> hey guys. Got a weird issue here (or at least I'm interpreting this wrong). should $ nslookup `hostname` respect what I have in /etc/hosts ?
[22:13] <michele_> http://xdcc_CANCEL_X1443218689
[22:14] <k1l_> !warez | michele_
[22:20] <Bray90820_> Test
[22:20] <bazhang> !test | Bray90820_
[22:21] <Bray90820_> Thanks
[22:22] <robert__> *hi*
[22:23] <phillips1012> is there newer documentation for creating and using an ubuntu chroot using debootstrap? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot is pretty old
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> phillips1012  there's this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[22:34] <asklepian> so, I'm following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro11-3
[22:35] <asklepian> and when I run 'dpkg -i bcmwl-kernel-source_<IP_ADDRESS>+bdcom-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb' it tells me that the dependency 'dkms' is not installed
[22:35] <asklepian> I'd like to install the .deb file so I can get my wifi working while I'm running the live version of ubuntu
[22:37] <genii> !info dkms
[22:37] <asklepian> ok, but I'm on a mac right now
[22:37] <genii> asklepian: It's in Main, you should be able to install it
[22:37] <asklepian> oh
[22:37] <asklepian> so, it should already be installed in the live image?
[22:38] <genii> asklepian: Oh, right, offline. Any way to hook it up temporaily with an ethernet cable first?
[22:39] <asklepian> unfortunately no
[22:39] <genii> !offline
[22:39] <asklepian> does it have a lot of dependencies?
[22:39] <asklepian> I can just download it and install it manually
[22:39] <asklepian> oh nice
[22:40] <asklepian> so, is there a way to do that for my bcmwl.deb file in case there are other dependencies?
[22:41] <asklepian> or should I just worry about dkms for now
[22:41] <asklepian> ?
[22:41] <genii> asklepian: You can check requirements of a package at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[22:42] <asklepian> ok, I'll go generate that package download script and maybe that'll be enough
[22:42] <asklepian> thanks!
[22:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: Somehow my problem is fixed now
[22:44] <the_count> Bashing-om: After the third or fourth restart, the cursor works as normal again
[22:44] <asklepian> also, I forgot to ask: how do I install the 'dkms_<IP_ADDRESS>-1.1ubuntu5.debian.tar.gz' file once I'm in?
[22:45] <daftykins> not sure why you would've been pointed to a tar 0o
[22:45] <asklepian> daftykins http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/dkms
[22:45] <daftykins> unless the deb is inside
[22:45] <daftykins> oh you grabbed the wrong one
[22:45] <bazhang> asklepian, get the deb from packages.ubuntu.com
[22:45] <bazhang> asklepian, NOT the tar
[22:45] <asklepian> I see a .dsc
[22:46] <asklepian> but I don't see a .deb
[22:46] <daftykins> that's 'download source'
[22:46] <daftykins> you don't want source.
[22:46] <wafflejock> asklepian: where it says architecture the link with "all" does it http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/dkms/download
[22:47] <asklepian> got it
[22:47] <asklepian> perfect
[22:47] <asklepian> now, I can do this for other packages if their needed
[22:48] <daftykins> they're, yep
[22:48] <asklepian> lol
[22:48] <asklepian> grammar
[22:48] <asklepian> I'll be back if I have other questions
[22:48] <asklepian> thanks again
[22:51] <tahr210341> Hi - what is the command associated with Alt Tab ?
[22:52] <bazhang> depends on the shell tahr210341
[22:52] <bazhang> unity or gnome-shell
[22:52] <tahr210341> bazbing80, Oh - I see.
[22:52] <tahr210341> So for unity ?
[22:53] <bazhang> gnome-shell has plugins that let you do alt tab which bring s up a coverflow type all windows in a 3d space window switcher
[22:53] <bazhang> unity no idea
[22:55] <EriC^^> tahr210341: to switch between programs
[22:55] <Yuken> So... I"d like to install Ubuntu to an SD card... but not as a live CD, rather, a full install... from within Windows 7. Is this possible at all?
[22:55] <tahr210341> EriC^^, yes.
[22:57] <jgranate> I wasn't aware you could have a persistant sd card
[22:57] <Yuken> jgranate, I am talking about installing it to an SD card like one would a hard drive, which is possible, but from within Windows.
[22:58] <Yuken> Which is probably the impossible part.
[22:58] <Yuken> Unless I get VirtualBox to see the SD card as a hard drive, maybe, and install Ubuntu from within Virtualbox.
[22:58] <Yuken> Don't know if that would work, however.
[22:59] <daftykins> Yuken: no
[22:59] <daftykins> also you'll kill the SD card :)
[22:59] <Yuken> Daaaamn it.
[22:59] <asklepian> ok, dkms installed fine
[23:00] <hetii> Hi
[23:00] <asklepian> but then we got this: http://pastebin.com/85mLHCAV
[23:00] <hetii> I just kernel 4.2.0-040200-generic #201508301530 and at dmesg I see [ 2908.456029] hfs: can't find a HFS filesystem on dev sda2
[23:00] <hetii> [ 2915.619159] EXT4-fs (sda2): unable to read superblock
[23:00] <hetii> [ 2915.648331] XFS (sda2): Invalid superblock magic number
[23:00] <asklepian> and here's the make.log file: http://pastebin.com/yF67XPpq
[23:00] <daftykins> hetii: no pasting
[23:01] <daftykins> !paste | hetii
[23:01] <hetii> sure
[23:01] <hetii> not more then 3 line.
[23:01] <hetii> so should I worry about those message?
[23:01] <daftykins> hetii: well first off you're in the wrong place, 15.10 is in #ubuntu+1 - second, you're trying to mount HFS? why?
[23:02] <daftykins> actually don't answer second, because you're in the wrong channel :)
[23:03] <hetii> daftykins:  #ubuntu+1 ? never head about that #, No I don`t try mount anything: http://pastebin.ca/3174029
[23:04] <asklepian> anyone? anyone?
[23:04] <daftykins> be patient
[23:06] <nicomachus> asklepian: I just joined so missed the first part of your question. What version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:06] <kaizokujoe> Hi, I was hoping to get some help with a small problem I'm having.
[23:06] <asklepian> nicomachus I'm live booting the 'ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso'
[23:06] <daftykins> kaizokujoe: as soon as you detail it, someone can begin
[23:06] <asklepian> and trying to install on a MBP 11,3
[23:07] <asklepian> I'd like to get wifi up and running so I can fix stuff on the fly during the install
[23:07] <kaizokujoe> Well, I have quite a bit of experience with ubuntu from before but I'm having a stupid problem at the moment.
[23:07] <asklepian> to do that I need 'bcmwl-kernel-source_<IP_ADDRESS>+bdcom-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb' installed
[23:07] <kaizokujoe> I'm trying to set up a VM running Ubuntu for a friend.
[23:07] <asklepian> dkms was one of its dependencies
[23:07] <asklepian> that's where you came in
[23:07] <daftykins> asklepian: can't you just set it all up on wired first?
[23:07] <daftykins> far less effort believe me.
[23:07] <asklepian> no wired
[23:07] <asklepian> not ethernet port
[23:08] <asklepian> no*
[23:08] <kaizokujoe> I installed SSH and set up port forwarding and such. I can connect but when I connect over the internet it won't let the user login
[23:08] <daftykins> oh yes, overpriced mac
[23:08] <daftykins> :>
[23:08] <asklepian> lol
[23:08] <nicomachus> lol
[23:08] <daftykins> kaizokujoe: define "won't let"
[23:08] <asklepian> I'm still hunting for a 1TB PCIe SSD in a thin laptop
[23:08] <kaizokujoe> It says access denied, though when I connect over the local network it does it just fine.
[23:08] <hetii> as far as I see some modules like qnx4, nfs, hfsplus andy many more are loaded
[23:09] <asklepian> once I find that I can give up this baby
[23:09] <nicomachus> hetii: you really need to be on #ubuntu+1, as you've been told.
[23:09] <daftykins> kaizokujoe: are you trying to use root which you've horribly created a password for?
[23:09] <kaizokujoe> Nope
[23:09] <daftykins> what user then?
[23:10] <kaizokujoe> A secondary user I've made for the friend.
[23:10] <daftykins> i suggest you have a browse of auth.log and see what's up
[23:10] <daftykins> i suspect it's locked out
[23:10] <hetii> nicomachus: ok
[23:11] <asklepian> do I have to install an older version of dkms? 'ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.19.0-25-generic is not supported'
[23:12] <nicomachus> asklepian: this may be helpful: https://askubuntu.com/questions/470153/no-wireless-when-install-14-04-on-macbook-pro
[23:12] <asklepian> nicomachus thanks, but I'm on an 11,3 and following these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro11-3
[23:14] <kaizokujoe> I don't get anything useful from the log as far as I can see.
[23:14] <kaizokujoe> Well, something seems weird but not sure.
[23:14] <daftykins> the problem is you're not actually using trusty per sé, but 14.04 with the vivid kernel
[23:14] <kaizokujoe> Pastebin the standard still?
[23:15] <daftykins> paste.ubuntu.com is
[23:15] <nicomachus> so much cleaner and neater than pastebin...
[23:16] <daftykins> +1
[23:16] <kaizokujoe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12562893/
[23:17] <TheGoldenAngel>       My Official Channel : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpW7RV72BJzs7OTSgBEmZCQ/videos
[23:18] <daftykins> kaizokujoe: you need a slice from when your pal is trying to test connect
[23:18] <kaizokujoe> That's all that's in the auth file
[23:18] <kaizokujoe> Just repeats those same lines and I think those are just from me checking the file.
[23:19] <daftykins> kaizokujoe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring#Log_More_Information
[23:19] <asklepian> are libc6-dev and linux-libc-dev installed by default?
[23:20] <daftykins> why don't you run "dpkg -l | grep <those>" to check?
[23:20] <asklepian> because I'm not booted into ubuntu
[23:21] <daftykins> ok well PM ubottu and type !info <package>
[23:24] <TheGoldenAngel>       My Official CAM GIRL Channel with skype contact : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpW7RV72BJzs7OTSgBEmZCQ/videos
[23:25] <daftykins> i sure hope they run ubuntu.
[23:25] <nicomachus> lol
[23:26] <kaizokujoe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12563154/
[23:26] <kaizokujoe> There
[23:28] <asklepian> ok, so I tried installing them and it didn't fix anything
[23:28] <asklepian> I got the same error
[23:29] <asklepian> so, how do I get around the fact that 'kernel package linux-headers-3.19.0-25-generic is not supported'
[23:29] <asklepian> ?
[23:30] <daftykins> i'd reinstall with 14.04.1 media if i were you
[23:30] <asklepian> even though, oddly, 'linux-headers-3.19.0-25-generic' is listed as a dependency on: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-headers-3.19.0-25-generic
[23:30] <daftykins> might work ok with the default intended 3.13 kernel
[23:31] <kaizokujoe> Any ideas for the SSH?
[23:31] <daftykins> kaizokujoe: hmm only a guess but check which groups your pals account is a member of versus yours
[23:32] <kaizokujoe> He's in the sudo group only afaik.
[23:32] <daftykins> doubt it
[23:32] <daftykins> check means check
[23:32] <kaizokujoe> Thing is, the user connects and auths fine over local network.
[23:32] <kaizokujoe> Just not over the internet, even though it's the same username and password.
[23:33] <kaizokujoe> Yup, just sudo
[23:33] <daftykins> mmm, restarted since?
[23:33] <asklepian> daftykins where do I find the .torrent file for that?
[23:33] <kaizokujoe> Yup I have.
[23:33] <daftykins> old-releases.ubuntu.com
[23:34] <nicomachus> hey kaizokujoe: what's your ssh command look like?
[23:34] <nicomachus> without addresses, of course. but what's the format?
[23:35] <daftykins> lol, ssh user@host? :P
[23:35] <nicomachus> I spent ~an hour one day trying to figure out a similar issue to this, and I was typing the hostname instead of the username.
[23:36] <nicomachus> you never know... it would give that error
[23:36] <kaizokujoe> Well, I'm using putty but it's basically the equivalent of ssh HOSTNAMEHERE
[23:36] <asklepian> kaizokujoe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkcEB96iMFk&index=14&list=PL6gx4Cwl9DGCkg2uj3PxUWhMDuTw3VKjM
[23:37] <daftykins> actually - sudo:    makke : TTY=tty1 ; PWD=/home/makke ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/joe /var/log/auth.log
[23:37] <daftykins> o0
[23:37] <daftykins> that almost suggests someone logging in as root
[23:37] <daftykins> think that's just local sudo use actually
[23:38] <kaizokujoe> Yeah it's what I reacted to as well when I said something looked funky..
[23:39] <kaizokujoe> That's from me using sudo joe /var/log/auth.log
[23:40] <daftykins> but that's not even a command
[23:40] <daftykins> be better if you could make the log section relevant to just the test connection
[23:41] <asklepian> kaizokujoe also, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5UBtE1UqYg&index=28&list=PL6gx4Cwl9DGBpuvPW0aHa7mKdn_k9SPKO
[23:41] <daftykins> why on earth would you link to video o0
[23:41] <kaizokujoe> I know how to do both those things..
[23:42] <asklepian> whatev, trying to help
[23:42] <asklepian> I'll stop
[23:42] <asklepian> lol
[23:44] <kaizokujoe> I appreciate the attempt to helping but it's not the first time I'm doing this.
[23:44] <daftykins> the format of the logs begged to differ ;)
[23:45] <kaizokujoe> How so?
[23:45] <daftykins> well as i said it would've been more useful just having the specific portion relevant to the test login being made
[23:45] <daftykins> see whether your pal has any logs too
[23:46] <kaizokujoe> He isn't trying to log in, it's me trying to log in using that user before giving him the login.
[23:46] <kaizokujoe> Putty doesn't keep logs afaik.
[23:46] <daftykins> so you're using the external IP but internally?
[23:47] <kaizokujoe> I'm using the domain name to connect to it externally.
[23:48] <daftykins> but from *inside* on the LAN?
[23:48] <kaizokujoe> Yup.
[23:48] <kaizokujoe> Though
[23:48] <daftykins> ugh not a lot of routers allow that =| you lied in your original explanation :(
[23:48] <kaizokujoe> Well, I didn't lie. I was mearly telling you what I thought would be enough for you to understand.
[23:48] <daftykins> also forget domains, try the public IP
[23:49] <kaizokujoe> Did that too
[23:49] <kaizokujoe> It was the second thing I tried.
[23:49] <daftykins> well no, you made it out like you were testing from the other place remotely
[23:49] <daftykins> alright so test properly now :)
[23:50] <kaizokujoe> Properly being what?
[23:50] <daftykins> from a remote host over the internet
[23:51] <kaizokujoe> I don't HAVE a remote host to connect from.
[23:51] <kaizokujoe> Need to hit up some friends for shells on their boxes for this kind of thing :p
[23:51] <daftykins> or just ask the friend to test connect
[23:51] <kaizokujoe> My last router had no issue with these kind of things.
[23:52] <daftykins> come to me with solutions, not problems :>
[23:52] <daftykins> uh huh, well things change
[23:52] <kaizokujoe> He isn't awake anymore, it's 2 in the morning here.
[23:52] <daftykins> again, none of these details concern me
[23:52] <daftykins> there are some out there that don't even allow a locally hosted web server to be reachable internally
[23:53] <kaizokujoe> And I'm not telling you because it concerns you, it was mearly idle chatter.
[23:53] <daftykins> i don't think you quite understand the sentiment there
[23:53] <daftykins> essentially i'm pointing out that i don't need to know the details, you know what to do... get it done
[23:54] <kaizokujoe> Yeah and as i said, those things are more for the sake of conversation then to further the problem solving of the issue.
[23:54] <OerHeks> sounds like 'login intranet-at-work-while-not-at-work'
[23:54] <daftykins> spare me :)
[23:55] <daftykins> OerHeks: ooh dear i hope not
[23:57] <kaizokujoe> Well, since it seems idle chatter is not appreciated here and I'm done testing it for today I'll be heading off.
[23:57] <daftykins> aww diddums


[21:41] <Humblesnore> Good evening guys.  Is there anyone here who happens to know where I can get a copy of the .deb for firefox 19.0.2 please?
[21:41] <Humblesnore> Apparently, ubuntu's repos are now only offering 11 and 20, and i want neither. 20 is annoying me, and I don't even want to begin on where 11 went wrong :)


[10:06] <ginggs> there were a bunch of chroot failures in the test rebuild this weekend
[10:06] <ginggs> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20220506-jammy/+build/23614396
[10:07] <ginggs> retrying didn't help
[11:36] <cjwatson> ginggs: that one had to be unpublished due to a lack of disk space
[11:37] <cjwatson> we may be able to republish that once we migrate that service to PS5, but doko reckoned it was less important than the v2 and v3 rebuilds
[11:38] <ginggs> cjwatson: ack, thanks!


[02:44] <manchicken> I've been helping to contribute to libqapt and kubuntu-debug-installer. Given some recent roadblocks that I've had with libapt-pkg I've been debating on trying to contribute something in the form of a hacker's guide to libapt.
[02:46] <manchicken> I'm wondering if anybody would be interested in a meeting to discuss what projects folks are working on around the area.


[06:34] <daftykins> goooood morning gang
[06:53] <zxmpi> o/
[07:33] <daftykins> ok first comedy of the day, a client i've been telling off about doing their backups wrong
[07:33] <daftykins> quick refresher, the jobs run at midnight on the 1st and 15th of the month, so the drives need to be plugged in prior to that day - but what they were doing is just swapping them over so they sat there idle for 2 weeks
[07:34] <daftykins> failure email came in at the weekend as the drive was absent (lol)
[07:34] <daftykins> "How do I do the back up please? I did as you said and took both backup tapes home, so the 15th landed on the weekend hence it didn’t work, I have now come and plugged the tape in just not sure how I do the backup from here?"
[07:34] <daftykins> (they're not even tapes)
[07:38] <daftykins> i think South Park handles this nicely
[07:38] <daftykins> my client: https://www.southparkstudios.co.uk/video-clips/38kw75/south-park-running-some-tests
[07:39] <zxmpi> i loved customers backups. it was one guaranteed source of having no useful data whatsoever.
[07:39] <daftykins> :D
[07:39] <zxmpi> my personal favourite was always sharon used to do those, she left 6 years ago
[07:40] <zxmpi> or the used backup command in dos. did you know that ever version of dos backup command was incompatible with every other version of dos restore
[07:40] <daftykins> ooh that's a fun one!
[07:41] <zxmpi> i had every version of dos on floppy just to try and restore those, about 50% successful
[07:42] <zxmpi> or the same for tape drives. you needed an exact hardware and software match to have any chance of restoring a tape. it's why i loved super floppies and zip drives so much
[07:43] <zxmpi> on occsion we had to go on site to a customer to read the backup tape of a different customer as only they had the exact hardware software combo
[07:43] <daftykins> :D
[07:43] <daftykins> the benefits of selling the same kit so you had options when equipment suffered from fire/theft/etc i suppose
[07:44] <zxmpi> but the i inserted the disk that's all you do right was very common too sadly
[07:45] <zxmpi> more a every time we ordered a dozen tape drives from supplier we'd get 'latest' upgrade of hardware and software. hardware changed every year. software every 3-6 months
[07:47] <zxmpi> that's why i invented my never fail, assume the customer is an idiot backup software. stack the backups so even if they never change the disk/tape it left 4-5 backups on non main system. grandfather, father, son style
[07:48] <zxmpi> if secondary system died, not a problem. replace it. if main system died, use backup to turn secondary system into a primary. and location operational in 5 minutes
[07:49] <daftykins> if we broke you out of retirement to assess the level of idiot i have here, explosions may result
[07:49] <zxmpi> very rare for all systems to die and on 1-2 occasions that happened (flooding) the zip disk would usually have enough to rebuild
[07:49] <daftykins> i'm essentially being asked how a calendar works right now
[07:49] <zxmpi> ...in the beginning the mayans.... :-P
[07:50] <daftykins> ah the Blackadder lesson plan!
[07:50] <zxmpi> remember to sharpen your pencil!
[07:52] <daftykins> ok gotta nip out, bbs
[07:52] <zxmpi> o/
[08:45] <daftykins> drat CPC had exactly one compatible UPS battery for my APC unit in stock last week, in the time it's taken to get a tax-free order put together, it's gawn


[02:37] <lajjr> hello cr3
[02:37] <cr3> lajjr: hi there!
[02:38] <lajjr> Marc do you think you will beat the clock??
[02:38] <lajjr> cr3 for check box that is??
[02:39] <cr3> lajjr: sure, I already implemented bug reporting yesterday evening and I have a pretty good idea where I'm going with udev
[02:39] <cr3> I think I'm forgetting something though
[02:39] <lajjr> great..
[02:40] <lajjr> I will help watch for bug and if you have any tasks give a yell?
[02:40] <cr3> lajjr: there was a problem with my changelog, so my latest package has been kinda postponned :(
[02:40] <lajjr> oh..man
[02:41] <cr3> aha, I remember now! there's also a bug with the way I use policykit, but that can wait after feature freeze, so no pressure from the clock
[02:41] <lajjr> nice..
[02:41] <lajjr> what is wrong with the changelog??
[02:42] <cr3> 1. The debian changelog entry is messed up. It should have all the entries from the previous package version plus one new entry describing the new upload.
[02:42] <cr3> 2. Is the removal of upstart checkbox event intentional? If so it hasn't been documented in the changelog entry.
[02:42] <cr3> I thought that I got #1 right, but I guess I was wrong :)
[02:42] <lajjr> oh not to bad..
[02:42] <cr3> yeah, it's not as if I had been completely negligeant :)
[02:43] <lajjr> you still have an old change from a prev package??
[02:44] <cr3> I found some interesting blog today which covered checkbox during uds: http://scubuntu.meraka.org.za/blogs/?tag=uds
[02:45] <cr3> "old change" from "prev package"? my brain is confused with the timeline
[02:45]  * cr3 steps out for a quick smoke
[02:45] <lajjr> nice it had to make you smile.
[02:49] <lajjr> a changelog from a previous package or a completed changelog to get info from??
[02:52] <cr3> lajjr: the previous package is the one currently in karmic, in lp:ubuntu/karmic/checkbox
[02:53] <cr3> I love that packages are now expressed as branches, special thanks to james_w
[02:53] <lajjr> oh.
[02:53] <lajjr> Yes nice branch out..
[02:55] <lajjr> There is enough time to make the correction?
[02:55] <cr3> lajjr: sure, there's plenty of time to make that correction and release another version before feature freeze even
[02:55] <cr3> I expect the next release will be available early next week
[02:56] <lajjr> nice.
[02:56] <cr3> the next release will include my device refactoring
[02:56] <cr3> lajjr: when I have the schema ready to express devices, I'll probably email it to a few folks for feedback including yourself
[02:56] <lajjr> and the suite of test
[02:57] <cr3> the suite of tests for checkbox-qa is not on my plate though, so one less thing to worry about :)
[02:57] <lajjr> heh spread it around.
[02:58] <lajjr> express device very cool. Can't wait.
[02:58] <lajjr> s/express device/express devices.
[03:00] <lajjr> yes happy to assist in the express devices.
[03:00] <cr3> I'll try to keep it as simple as possible, probably: bus, vendor id, product id, subvendor id, subproduct id, class id, subclass id, prog id, description, type and driver
[03:00] <lajjr> is Ronald on?? cr3
[03:01] <cr3> lajjr: he seems to be away, and so should I :)
[03:01] <lajjr> ok
[03:01] <lajjr> nice scheme set.
[03:02] <cr3> ultimately, the challenge is being able to express devices consistently whether using hal or udev information
[03:02] <lajjr> yes I have to go.
[03:02] <cr3> me too, need to prepare dinner
[03:02] <cr3> cheerio, talk to you soon
[03:02] <lajjr> enjoy cr3
[03:03] <lajjr> yes Be Safe.
[13:58] <foormea> hi
[13:58] <foormea> no desktop effects on karmic/kde with kernel 2.6.31, am i alone or other people having the same?
[13:58] <foormea> (nvidia)
[17:33] <davmor2> cr3: what you doing here it's like the wekend :)
[17:33] <davmor2> weekend even
[17:36] <cr3> davmor2: same question to you! :)
[17:36] <cr3> davmor2: actually, I often work on weekends but I mostly do research so I'm not always online
[17:37] <davmor2> playing catch up on my hours :) ill monday and tuesday.  Mostly caught up but I actually wanted to test the latest cds but they didn't arrive till 23:27 which was a bit late to start :)
[17:38] <cr3> cool, I'll see if I got some test results for the new images...
[17:38] <cr3> hm, I seem to have some results for ubuntu i386, but not nearly as much as I would've expected
[17:39] <davmor2> cr3: Plus as I'm off this Monday and tuesday I thought I'd get the extra hours in, mind you I'll make up for any others the following week with alpha 5 :)
[17:39] <davmor2> there all up to date now at least
[17:40] <davmor2> I got ubuntu-alt-64 installing and kub-live-32 just fired up and am burning xub-alt-32 as we speak
[17:42] <cr3> I seem to have a bunch of messages enqueued to run more tests, so maybe I'll see more results trickling in during the day
[17:44] <cr3> davmor2: I got an installation error: installer crashed, pageslen referenced before assignment
[17:44] <cr3> that was for: Kubuntu 9.10 "Karmic Koala" - Alpha amd64 (20090822)
[17:45] <davmor2> cr3: I'll have a look in a second and prize out some logs :)
[17:47] <cr3> davmor2: damnation, this is for the desktop image, I don't seem to be running httpd to get the logs from remote :(
[17:47] <cr3> I love the early_command and httpd netcat script on the alternate image, very useful
[17:48] <davmor2> cr3: do you not have to add those via seed though?
[17:48] <davmor2> preseed even
[17:51] <davmor2> cr3: what hw is it on I'll pick machine that most closely ressembles it :)
[17:54] <davmor2> cr3: kub live 32bit seems to be installing fine for me :(
[17:54] <cr3> reported bug #417417
[17:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 417417 in ubiquity "[Karmic] Ubiquity crashes with a UnboundLocalError on 20090822 image" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/417417
[17:55] <cr3> davmor2: the problem is most likely preseed related
[17:57] <davmor2> my 32 bit install from live session just finished successfully so it could very well be an issue with the pre-seed :(
[17:58]  * davmor2 needs to setup up his forth machine
[17:58] <cr3> davmor2: I'll add a comment to that effect in the bug
[17:58] <cr3> do you mean "forth" or "fourth"? the former would be totally awesome!
[17:58] <davmor2> fourth
[17:59] <davmor2> cr3: I got given an older intel box for testing with so I'll have to drop it into my setup now :)
[18:00]  * davmor2 had to buy a load more dvd+rw's too my others were all burning out on me :(
[18:01] <davmor2> to be fair they had, had a number of installs burnt to them :)
[18:01] <cr3> davmor2: I wonder how much value testing from a physical image compares to installing the image over the network
[18:01] <davmor2> cr3: you lose out on the need for a modified pre seed for one :)
[18:02] <davmor2> but it's the way I prefer to test.  Vm to me is too much like a clean room and has no guarantees that they will work on hw
[18:03] <cr3> davmor2: you wouldn't need a modified preseed if you were still following the steps manually :)
[18:03] <cr3> oh, right, I was just considering tests on physical hardware using images nfs mounted over the network
[18:04] <cr3> however, testing images directly using kvm might be a good addition to my test framework
[18:04] <cr3> and/or I could also leverage vmware (server or esx) to do the same thing
[18:05] <davmor2> cr3: the clean room approach is good for automated if it work on kvm but doesn't on the machines it's most likely an issue with the hw :)
[18:05] <davmor2> well driver for the hw
[18:06] <cr3> davmor2: if we test the the image installs on kvm by directly mounting it and on physical hardware by mounting it over nfs, I wonder if we're missing any potential problems
[18:07] <davmor2> cr3: plus you can use it as a metering rod to gauge meterics by :)  All tests should be faster on hw :)
[18:08] <davmor2> cr3: well you might hit the same issues but it's hard to judge till you try it :)
[18:08] <cr3> davmor2: it's not the size of the rod that counts, it's how you use it :)
[18:09] <davmor2> trust you to bring the level of conversation down to toilet level :P
[18:10] <cr3> seriously though, "faster on hw" really depends on too many factors: kvm can be easily faster on good hardware with virtual extensions than running natively on the hardware
[18:10] <davmor2> cr3: I did say should be :)
[18:11] <cr3> davmor2: the first release of metrics based testing I would like to introduce will only consider individual hardware, be it physical or virtual
[18:11] <cr3> I'm not sure how I'll be able to represent metrics spanning multiple machines to assess that hardware x is quicker/slower than hardware y
[18:12] <davmor2> which I agree would be better to check for overall performance issues/regressions
[18:12] <cr3> davmor2: exactly, the initial motivation will be to use metrics as a form of quantitative test to specifically detect regressions on hardware
[18:13] <cr3> davmor2: however, I know that Keybuk will want an overview across hardware to determine if some graphics controllers, for example, are causing boot speed to diverge significantly
[18:14] <cr3> ie, there was a recent assumption that nvidia was adding 2-3 seconds to the boot time compared to intel for example on the same hardware
[18:16] <cr3> that's weird, there's no lp:ubuntu/karmic/ubiquity... I really can't wait until all the packages have been bzrified
[18:16] <davmor2> yes that would be useful info, but you and I both know that the results will get compared between machines :)
[18:16] <davmor2> cr3: what for?
[18:16] <cr3> davmor2: yeah, so my trick will be to ask those people with most vested interest to help come up with a user interface for the reports :)
[18:17] <cr3> davmor2: I'm just branching ubiquity to see if I can suggest a quick patch
[18:18] <cr3> davmor2: the coolio process would be: bzr branch lp:ubuntu/karmic/ubiquity; fix; bzr push lp:~cr3/ubuntu/karmic/ubiquity/bug-417417; link branch to bug
[18:18] <cr3> that's so much more convenient for the developer than attaching a patch to a bug report
[18:20] <davmor2> yes that would be nice but hey
[18:21] <cr3> that's already how it is for lots of packages, such as checkbox. it's just that it takes a little while to bzrify all the packages
[18:33] <davmor2> it'll get there though :)
[18:40] <cr3> yay, I found the commit that broke automatic installs of ubiquity!
[18:41] <davmor2> cr3: good let them know on #ubuntu-installer :)
[19:07] <cr3> davmor2: do you happen to have access to a system with a floppy and/or a tape drive?
[19:08] <davmor2> floppy yes tape no
[19:09] <davmor2> cr3 why?
[19:09] <cr3> davmor2: hm, I just found a few machines with a floppy, so I'm just missing one with a tape drive then
[19:10] <cr3> refactoring checkbox to use udev instead of hal, so I want to express the type of device
[19:10] <davmor2> Ah :)
[19:13] <cr3> superm1 is everywhere, he's even committing stuff to udev!
[19:16] <davmor2> cr3: That's why he is super Mario :)


[10:15] <rmg51> Morning
[13:18] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[13:24] <TengokuNoIsan> moanin


[09:14] <bilalakhtar> Can I work on the gnumeric merge?
[09:15] <bilalakhtar> I have merged it well already, and it builds fine
[09:48] <bilalakhtar> I asked previous uploader, who allowed the merge
[09:48] <bilalakhtar> and hence I am uploading
[11:48] <mr_pouit> bilalakhtar: yep, feel free to do it, thanks! (I think nobody from xubuntu-dev takes care of it anymore…)
[11:48] <bilalakhtar> thanks mr_pouit
[17:31] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[17:43] <charlie-tca> xubuntu images are working today, both alternate and desktop
[18:22] <mr_pouit> okay, uploaded new xfce4-notifyd, xfce4-appfinder, xfwm4, ristretto, xfce4-dev-tools and xfce4-volumed
[18:22] <mr_pouit> at least alpha 1 will have some parts of 4.7.x
[18:22] <charlie-tca> w00t!
[18:23] <ochosi> kewl
[18:23] <charlie-tca> thanks a bunch, That is great
[18:23] <ochosi> mr_pouit: so what's the big troublemaker in 4.7? the panel?
[18:24] <mr_pouit> yeah, exo + panel + thunar


[00:00] <mwhudson> i see
[00:00] <ibeardslee> I mean to say that yes you can go to them directly.
[00:00] <mwhudson> i also want a laptop fairly pronto as i'm travelling in 10 days and easter eats half of the working days :/
[00:01] <ibeardslee> ahh ouch .. that wouldn't be pronto going to Silicon as it's a special order
[00:02] <mwhudson> i wonder how well ubuntu works on macbook airs these days
[00:02] <olly> can you buy those without OS X?
[00:02] <mwhudson> no
[00:03] <olly> mac screens seem nice, didn't get on with the keyboard though
[00:03] <ibeardslee> I'd like to be able to get our (Catalyst's) buying power to a point of people being able to buy our 'standard' laptop variant.
[00:03] <olly> mainly layout, which you can probably fudge
[00:04] <olly> i do like the magnet-attached power connector they use
[00:04] <olly> though once the battery got sad, it might be more of a liability
[00:05] <olly> and i suspect the battery is glued in, being apple
[00:10] <mwhudson> well it's also squeezed in around all the other components i guess
[00:11] <mwhudson> can attest to magnet attached power connector being a pain when the battery is sad, yes
[00:27] <hads> Are the Lenovo units you buy any cheaper than buying with Windows direct from Lenovo?
[00:27] <hads> I've noticed that the distributors are often no cheaper than direct from the Lenovo website.
[00:29] <olly> presumably any cost difference isn't the big motivator though
[00:29] <hads> Understood, just curious.
[00:30] <hads> Oh jealous, I see the T450S has moved back to proper buttons on the trackpad.
[00:30] <olly> i've noticed at least some computers come with a nobbled version of windows, and you pay extra to get a less nobbled one
[00:30] <olly> so i guess MS may get a lower tax than they used to
[00:33] <hads> Looks like that's about the only change between the 440s and 450s, now I want a new laptop again.
[00:35] <hads> Wow, it's twice the price.
[00:36] <hads> I'll just get back to work then.
[00:37] <olly> expensive buttons
[00:51] <ibeardslee> hads: a bit cheaper, but we have a 3 year warranty I think the website's standard is 1 year
[00:52] <hads> Glad they are a little cheaper.
[01:17] <olly> my office is so hot today - doesn't seem like it's almost april
[01:18] <hads> Pretty chilly here today.
[01:25] <olly> it's nicely cool outside, I think it's just still so the air isn't circulating much
[18:13] <ibeardslee> morning
[18:57] <atamira> morning
[22:10] <olly> morning


[09:49] <mwak> hi
[13:18] <jcastro> m_3: ping me when you're around!
[13:36] <m_3> jcastro: yo
[13:36] <m_3> greetings from Utah!
[13:43] <benji> I wasted a little time the other day because a relation was in an error state and I didn't notice it in the juju status output.  That got me thinking about colorizing the output to make errors pass less silently.  If there that functionality is desirable, I'll cook up a branch.
[13:44] <benji> I suspect it will be off by default and those who want it on will use an alias to enable it.
[13:53] <hazmat> benji, that sounds nice.. it be nice to start to have it as a juju-jitsu command..
[13:54] <hazmat> benji, i always run things in emacs shells and escape codes cause foobar... but i'm probably one of a small few in that regard
[13:55] <benji> hazmat: not having used juju-jitsu, what is the attraction of having that functionality there?  It is a proving ground for inclusion in juju-proper?
[13:55] <hazmat> benji, i think of it as such
[13:55] <benji> yeah, as much as I like colorized output, making it the default is not really feasible
[13:56] <hazmat> benji, the primary benefit of jitsu is it needs no coordination or acceptance, its very JFDI friendly
[13:56] <hazmat> benji, if you want to just do it core, that also sounds good, just drop an email proposal to the list.
[13:57] <benji> I'll think abotu which would be the best approach.  Thanks for the input!
[14:03] <jcastro> jamespage: you're going to europython right?
[14:08] <jcastro> jimbaker: there's nothing left to do for the Usenix config management thing other than for you to go and execute right?
[15:01] <jimbaker> jcastro, correct
[15:01] <jcastro> mramm: ^^^ I think you might both be there
[15:01] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: ping me once you're free, I'll be here for 3 more hours
[15:05] <zooko> Hi folks!
[15:05] <zooko> Please suggest a charm that I can copy and edit in order to create a charm for Tahoe-LAFS.
[15:05] <zooko> There is one distinguished coordinating server plus any number of other servers.
[15:06] <zooko> The other servers can come and go without any response being required on anyone's part, so there's no configuration change or anything required to add or subtract servers.
[15:06] <zooko> So, it ought to be pretty simple.
[15:10] <jcastro> jimbaker: ^^^
[15:13] <jimbaker> zooko, you can browse the charms at http://jujucharms.com/charms - off the top of my head, i don't remember which ones have implemented a leader election (via a peer relationship) but they're out there. there's a charm helper for that
[15:15] <jimbaker> zooko, want to get together for coffee today?
[15:17] <jimbaker> zooko, probably the cassandra charm is a good place to start, see for example, http://jujucharms.com/charms/precise/cassandra/hooks/cluster-relation-joined
[15:20] <hazmat> there's a known issue with smaller unit sequence as leader
[15:21] <jimbaker> hazmat, so is there a bug in the cassandra charm?
[15:21] <marcoceppi> the peer.sh is still experimental as it's hard to guarantee that the leader will always exists based on lowest unit number
[15:22] <hazmat> jimbaker, yes, but its timing dependent
[15:22] <hazmat> if you add one unit, wait a while, then add more, its fine
[15:22] <hazmat> but if you have a bunch coming up at once for the initial deploy -n 5 for example
[15:22] <hazmat> then they may come up and not see a stable leader till unit/1 shows up
[15:23] <zooko> jimbaker: thanks!
[15:23] <zooko> jimbaker: it is simpler than that -- there is no leader election. The distinguished server ("introducer") is a different type of server from the others and is created specifically by the human.
[15:23] <zooko> jimbaker: I'd love to! But, I can't, because I'm responsible for three boys while I work today and all this week. :-)
[15:23] <jimbaker> zooko, that makes things easier
[15:23] <zooko> And, I need to pack us all up for a two-month trip to Canada.
[15:24] <zooko> Yes, I think Tahoe-LAFS should be fairly simple to charmify.
[15:24] <zooko> You create one introducer, then you get a string from it which identifies it and you configure any number of storage servers, giving them that string.
[15:24] <zooko> That's almost all that needs to be done.
[15:25] <jimbaker> zooko, sounds straightforward
[15:40] <jcastro> lynxman: you're set for reviews on Wednesday (reminder)
[15:47] <negronjl> 'morning all
[15:48] <jcastro> hi!
[15:48] <jcastro> SpamapS: around?
[15:53] <m_3> negronjl: yo!
[15:53] <negronjl> m_3: 'morning
[17:25] <surgemcgee> How can I get my unit out of debug mode? The debug-hooks shell quit after prolonged activiaty. Now is remains in it's perma debug state. Blah
[17:25] <surgemcgee> *in-activaty
[17:27] <SpamapS> surgemcgee: kill the shell under tmux
[19:13] <jcastro> imbrandon: I appreciate you taking a screenshot of the HP account #'s instead of something I could copy and paste. :p
[19:13] <imbrandon> jcastro: i totaly thought i sent both, one was a joke
[19:13] <imbrandon> heh
[19:14] <imbrandon> i'm sorry if i did not send the other right behind it, twas my intention
[19:14] <imbrandon> heh
[19:14] <jcastro> it's ok, if some other random person with a close enough digit gets free HP cloud instead it's not my fault. :)
[19:14] <imbrandon> was supose to look like yours on the wiki :)
[23:18] <adam_g> is it currently not possible to push to / create quantal charm branches? ie, lp:~gandelman-a/charms/quantal/mysql/testing ?
[23:37] <vila> adam_g: I ran into the same issue last week. Got no definitive answer. Let me know if you learn more (I'm not there, I'm sleeping ;)


[02:19] <Guest72258>  /nick terje
[02:36] <pacavaca> Hello here! I'm wondering if there's a doc explainig custom image generation (ubuntu/centos with custom packages) published somewhere? I was asking same question here last week and I remember kiko said that someone is going to answer this question on askubuntu because many people are asking.
[02:43] <mup> Bug #1585016 opened: Commissing with LVM breaks deployments <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1585016>
[04:28] <mup> Bug #1561597 changed: Clicking on multiple "Filter by" items should not make accumulative filters <ux> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1561597>
[04:28] <mup> Bug #1561688 changed: [2.0a3] adding DNS and Zones to settings subnav <design> <ui> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1561688>
[09:53] <mup> Bug #1585118 opened: MAAS 2.0beta5 fails to commission node - floppy issue <cpec> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1585118>
[10:29] <mup> Bug #1585138 opened: /api/2.0/machines/?op=list_allocated and /api/2.0/machine/?op=acquire do not work for clients authenticated via username and password <api> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1585138>
[13:36] <mup> Bug #1585118 changed: MAAS 2.0beta5 fails to commission node - floppy issue <cpec> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1585118>
[14:18] <mup> Bug #1585223 opened: Node lost IPMI password, can't be deleted <landscape> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1585223>
[14:24] <mup> Bug #1585223 changed: Node lost IPMI password, can't be deleted <landscape> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1585223>
[14:33] <mup> Bug #1585223 opened: Node lost IPMI password, can't be deleted <landscape> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1585223>
[19:29] <Wouitmil> Bim
[19:31] <kiko> hey Wouitmil
[20:06] <huats> Hi
[20:06] <huats> I am using maas 1.9 and I'd like to import a custom image
[20:07] <huats> according to the docs I should be able to use maas  boot-resources
[20:07] <huats> but boot-resources don't seems to be a choice I have
[20:08] <huats> any chance someone has an idea ?
[20:23] <huats> Ok got it
[20:23] <huats> I wasn't identified I think using the API key
[20:33] <huats> So now the image is uploaded but I cannot use it when I want to provision (I don't have that choice). Any idea ?
[20:40] <huats> apparently my cluster is out-of-sync of the image
[20:40] <huats> what is the proper way to solve that ?
[20:40] <shewless> hey guys. Is this the right place to ask about "conjure up"? I just want to know if the LXD option uses containers to run the "controllers" of openstack or if it just uses LXD has the compute nodes - if that makes any sense
[20:41] <rbasak> shewless: try asking stokachu in #ubuntu-server.
[20:42] <shewless> rbasak: thanks I will do that. Someone on this channel recommended conjure up but I can't remember who.
[20:43] <oz__> hey guys quick question, if i have nodes with multiple disks do i have to use lvm when installing autpilot in order for all the disks to be used, or do i have to set that up in maas before deploying autopilot
[23:02] <noobadmin> Hi! I'm new to deploying maas and I have a network problem that I can figure out by myself... I set up a rack controller with a region controller on a single server on a mini lab to test this stuff but when I turn on the 1st node the image boots but can't connect with the region cont. to do the commissioning part because "no route to host"
[23:03] <noobadmin> I can't find where's the error... both region controller and node are on the same subnet, dhcp and dns are working... I don't know where to check/how to debbug. Can somebody get me oriented, please?
[23:26] <mup> Bug #1585400 opened: HP Moonshot iLO4 (IPMI) power driver has incorrect required package <MAAS:Triaged by newell-jensen> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1585400>


[19:55] <guimo_> Hi. Error-message from torrent.ubuntu.com: (22.04.2) "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker"
[19:55] <guimo_> https://torrent.ubuntu.com/tracker_index
[20:01] <ravage> https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads#bittorrents
[20:03] <ravage> works for me but i get the same tracker error
[20:03] <ravage> so i guess it only works because of p2p
[20:23] <guimo_> yes, this is also my guess. Because alternative trackers (DHT) and PeX.