[14:41] <kroonrs> I mean ubuntu's unified title bar, not xterm's title bar, by the way
[14:42] <Teth> hey, i was just wondering, the most recent version of ubuntu has this behavior where the mouse "sticks" when I try to move between my two monitors
[14:42] <tuxx-> does anyone know how i can disable the keyboard feature where i have to hit space after i pressed a ' for it to show up?
[14:42] <Teth> what is this called and what option lets me turn it off?
[14:42] <akshayk29> Hey friends,I recently installed ubuntu from a usb stick with windows xp for dual booting.But after installing,ubuntu setup prompting to restart,restarting there is no grub bootloader and there is no operating system selection,instead it directly boots into xp without any prompt,and my hard disk space is also less to 1.22 GB :-(.Any help guys?
[14:42] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: same here, Dell N5110. W7 has no taste
[14:42] <fidel> Teth: doesnt happen here with dual-screen-setup. could you add some more infos
[14:42] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle:  but everybody here uses Windows. compability matters
[14:43] <ska> if "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" crashes or system crashes during upgrade, can I recover from that?
[14:43] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: which linux distro u would prefer?
[14:43] <Teth> there's not much more info to add. this is the default behavior after I upgraded. the mouse will not cross the border between my two monitors freely unless I'm "breaking through" at high velocity
[14:43] <resno> Captain_Proton: no, nothing
[14:44] <llutz> tuxx-: set XKBVARIANT="nodeadkeys" in /etc/default/keyboard
[14:44] <tuxx-> thanks llutz
[14:45] <tuxx-> just restart x after the change i guess llutz ? :)
[14:45] <tuxx-> gonna try :P
[14:45] <llutz> tuxx-: should do, yes
[14:45] <tuxx-> this has been bugging me for 2 weeks now, hehe :D
[14:45] <tuxx-> doesnt help while coding
[14:45] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: I go with Suse,Ubuntu,Fedore,CentOS .......
[14:46] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: they say RedHat is also cool
[14:46] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: If you prefer KDE I would go for Suse
[14:46] <fidel> ActionParsnip: something eye-catchy for you in my flash output/paste?
[14:47] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: I have only used Slackware, Fedora, Mint (Julia) and Ubuntu
[14:47] <Teth> so, no one even knows what this behavior is called?
[14:47] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: this goes offtopic. So better talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:47] <Captain_Proton> resno, if you restart lightdm : /etc/lightdm restart      does it throw any errors
[14:48] <fidel> Teth: it might be interesting what desktop-enviroment you are using and how you configured yourdual-screen setup
[14:48] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: I dont prefer KDE just I installed onto Light -ubuntu just for trying
[14:48] <jeek> teth: Sticky edges
[14:48] <Teth> finally :P
[14:48] <jeek> There's a setting for it in Displays
[14:48] <Teth> thank you jeek
[14:48] <jeek> Took me 3 seconds of Googling.
[14:48] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: are you mod or what here?
[14:48] <Teth> what did you type? :P
[14:48] <Teth> into google
[14:48] <schnuffle> jeek: Google Foo isn't that easy to learn
[14:48] <jeek> ubuntu multiple screens sticky
[14:48] <jeek> I didn't even use quotes!
[14:49] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: No, as normal as you are
[14:49] <resno> Captain_Proton: no, screent turns black and the machine seems to freeze
[14:49] <Teth> ok, i failed to think then :P
[14:49] <Teth> however, changing this setting == retarded
[14:49] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle:  so y u care about offtopic
[14:49] <Teth> the new "start" menu is also utter nonsense
[14:50] <Teth> I like being able to search for applications. I do
[14:50] <jeek> Calling Ubuntu's recent spat of UI changes retarded is an insult to actual developmentally disabled people
[14:50] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: a lot off normal people care about as it gets hard to follow
[14:50] <wcs> exit
[14:50] <Teth> but being able to find them in a folder hierarchy still works for me
[14:50] <Teth> except that that's gone
[14:50] <tuxx-> thanks llutz, works like a charm :-)
[14:50] <Captain_Proton> move back to the the other tty by hit ctrl + alt f1 , f2 etc.. see if you can find the other seesion
[14:50] <Teth> it tends to make me angry
[14:50] <Captain_Proton> session
[14:50] <Teth> really angry
[14:50] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: k. this is my first IRC chat
[14:51] <fidel> Teth: if it comes just to launching apps i still heavily recommend using Kupfer - nice launcher
[14:51] <resno> Captain_Proton: i really think its frozen, becuase "caps lock" doesnt illuminate like normal. and no thoses sessions arent working
[14:51] <fidel> comes with a tons of small but lovely extras,plugins etc and doesnt force me to some kind of display-filling meta-layer ;)
[14:52] <shahriyarguliyev> schnuffle: im going offline, thanks a lot. cya
[14:52] <schnuffle> shahriyarguliyev: you're welcome
[14:52] <Captain_Proton> resno, the only other thing I can think of rename your xorg.conf if you have one to xorg.conf.old and reboot
[14:52] <resno> Captain_Proton: lol, done that a few times
[14:53] <fasta> Which graphics driver does the Ubuntu livecd use by default?
[14:53] <schnuffle> resno: any propritary drivers installed?
[14:53] <resno> schnuffle: yes.
[14:54] <Captain_Proton> resno, have you tried to boot into recovery mode? or if you have nvidia or ati drivers remove them
[14:54] <cpet> fasta: normal default drivers known to work on most hardware
[14:54] <Captain_Proton> resno, other then that dude I dont know
[14:54] <resno> Captain_Proton: doesnt reseting the xorg file fix that or no?
[14:54] <schnuffle> resno: I'm not  a X expert, but I would first get rid off them because there's a lot of problem due to them
[14:54] <fasta> cpet: is that what I asked?
[14:55] <resno> Captain_Proton: schnuffle how do you remove the drivers?
[14:55] <fasta> (on Ati/Amd hardware)
[14:55] <resno> im using an amd driver
[14:55] <schnuffle> resno: once your X is working again you can reinstall the closedsource once
[14:55] <schnuffle> resno: nvidia or AMD/ATI?
[14:55] <Captain_Proton> resno, you have to take a look must of the time it just rewrite them but keep them enabled -
[14:55] <resno> schnuffle: amd
[14:56] <schnuffle> resno: So catalyst, what graphic card model?
[14:56] <jason200012> I'm getting performance issues running ubuntu 12, I've tried other window managers but wondering how I can speed this system up. I've got Intel pentium 4 2.4GZ with 1.5 Gigs of DDR and 250Gig SATA 5400 rpm drive. My hard drive avg read speed is 57 MB / Second. my load seems high load average: 1.05, 1.20, 1.21
[14:56] <resno> radeon
[14:56] <resno> schnuffle: radeon
[14:56] <resno> do you need specifics? schnuffle
[14:56] <Teth> I now am less likely to kill someone today.
[14:56] <schnuffle> resno:  more specific
[14:56] <Teth> thank you
[14:56] <mzcl-mn> hello everybody
[14:57] <resno> schnuffle: amd radeon hd 6350
[14:57] <cpet> fasta: I would say yes, but I take it you don't think that?
[14:57] <Captain_Proton> renato, uninstall the drivers that should get you to boot right from there you should be able to fix the driver problem
[14:57] <fasta> cpet: which has a specific meaning.
[14:57] <mzcl-mn> did anyone complainded shortly after making mesa updates to their amd graphics system since last sunday?
[14:58] <schnuffle> resno: uninstall fglrx*
[14:58] <Captain_Proton> renato, after you uninstall make sure there are no xorg.conf or they are all renamed
[14:58] <fasta> cpet: I didn't ask 'which class of drivers'.
[14:58] <resno> schnuffle: this install isnt using fglrx :-\
[14:58] <nachox> is there anyone running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS who might do me a favor? would you mind running "openssl s_client -connect www.gmail.com:443 -ssl2" and telling me if it errors out?
[14:58] <resno> schnuffle: i actually insalled the drivers from amd/ati because because the ones from ubuntu never worked/or installed
[14:59] <schnuffle> resno: so you use the open sosurce driver?
[14:59] <mzcl-mn> resno: ok
[14:59] <cpet> fasta: Ok in that case it uses VESA which is compatible on most cards these days.
[14:59] <cpet> fasta: And you now earned an ignore :)
[14:59] <Captain_Proton> resno, schnuffle i think he build them for ati site
[14:59] <mzcl-mn> i figure you have the same problem as me and a friend of mine
[14:59] <resno> Captain_Proton: yea, is was the only way i could get it to work...
[15:00] <schnuffle> nachox: CONNECTED(00000003)
[15:00] <schnuffle> 27800:error:1407F0E5:SSL routines:SSL2_WRITE:ssl handshake failure:s2_pkt.c:428:
[15:00] <resno> Captain_Proton: schnuffle one sec, let me reboot
[15:00] <melkor> I don't use unity, is it safe to uninstall it?
[15:00] <fasta> cpet: all wrong.
[15:00] <Ormie> how do i enable compiz in ubuntu?
[15:00] <fasta> cpet: you shouldn't be answering questions here.
[15:01] <nachox> schnuffle now this is odd, the same exact command here fails to work because of an unknown option. lsb_release -a says what?
[15:01] <resno> schnuffle: Captain_Proton ha, now my screens go to sleep, no cli/ unity
[15:01] <schnuffle> nachox: no lsb stuff installed
[15:02] <Captain_Proton> melkor, if you like but make sure you do it from the command line and see what dependency it want to remove. it does not use anything if it not running
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[15:02] <nachox> schnuffle,  i thought it was default, iit is Ubuntu 12.04 LTS you have installed, right? :)
[15:03] <Captain_Proton> resno, what did you do remove the driver ?
[15:03] <schnuffle> nachox: Debian Squeeze
[15:03] <resno> Captain_Proton: apt-get purge fglrx*
[15:03] <promptcommand> does anyone knows a way to install ubu12.04 from a local repo?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> schnuffle: debian isn't supported here
[15:03] <nachox> schnuffle,  oh, it doesnt count, i need someone with that exact release
[15:03] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, Whoa everything washed right up! that wasn't fun at all.
[15:03] <resno> Captain_Proton: let me try resetting the xorg.cong file
[15:04] <Captain_Proton> renato, remove or renome it
[15:04] <resno> Captain_Proton: in recovery
[15:04] <nachox> ActionParsnip, he was actually trying to give me a hand with openssl in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> oh my bad
[15:04] <cpet> fasta: Regardless of me being right or wrong, you being a bitch about it wont help you much in regards to recieving help.  Currently trying './configure && make && sudo make install' to make the installation, but get's this error: 'configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.'
[15:05] <Captain_Proton> resno, xorg loads the right one, you do not need it any more unless you are load nvidia or ati drivers
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> nachox: I have 12.04 on my server and 12.10 on my laptop
[15:05] <fasta> cpet: er worse
[15:06] <nachox> ActionParsnip, would you mind testing something in your server then?
[15:06] <Captain_Proton> resno, so for right now now remove or renome it
[15:06] <fasta> cpet: just because you want to help, doesn't mean you should. Take the hint.
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> nachox: depends what it is...
[15:06] <nachox> ActionParsnip, "openssl s_client -connect www.gmail.com:443 -ssl2"
[15:07] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, Nothing happened.
[15:07] <Ormie> What do i do next?
[15:07] <numberto> Hi guys, I ssh'ed into my server and wanto to delete a folder in www/joomla/jupgrade. But when I do that it says that I don't have permission to do it. (It deletes with filezilla though)
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> nachox: without the -ssl2 it's ok
[15:07] <nachox> ActionParsnip, it basically connects with www.gmail.com and opens an SSLv2 session against its 443 tcp port. nothing harmful
[15:07] <Captain_Proton> nachox, unknown option -ssl2 / usage: s_client args
[15:07] <nachox> well, the thing is that -ssl2 IS a valid option
[15:08] <resno> Captain_Proton: desktop!
[15:08] <nachox>  -ssl2         - just use SSLv2
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> nachox: gotcha, but the -ssl2 just outputs the syntax of the command
[15:08] <schnuffle> numberto: use sudo
[15:08] <Captain_Proton> resno, it booted right?
[15:08] <Captain_Proton> resno, sweet!!!
[15:08] <numberto> schnuffle: i do, but it says that the user is not in sodoers
[15:08] <nachox> ActionParsnip, which is why i think someone screwed the openssl package in ubuntu :)
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: do you have 3D accelleration setup
[15:09] <Captain_Proton> resno, do you do any gaming?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> nachox: report a bug if you suspect one :)
[15:09] <resno> Captain_Proton: im actually having a similar problem at home, so ill need to figure it out there
[15:09] <resno> Captain_Proton: yes i do
[15:09] <nachox> how can i tell who the mantainer of the package is?
[15:09] <schnuffle> numberto: then you need to login as  user that has sudo rights
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> nachox: doesn't matter, just run: ubuntu-bug openssl
[15:10] <Captain_Proton> resno, ok I was going to say if you do not then the opensource one is ok for work stuff
[15:10] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, I know nothing about graphics, so I don't know what you mean and I didn't install 3D Accelleration.
[15:10] <numberto> schnuffle: well, I log in with just the same login with filezilla and it can deletes the folder without any problems
[15:10] <resno> Captain_Proton: well i dual screen, and it wouldnt do it right otherwise
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: what is the output of:  lspci | grep -i vga
[15:10] <sergeantcupcake> howdy!
[15:10] <saurabh_> I am bored with programming. Where can I have fun?
[15:10] <schnuffle> numberto: One is SSH the other is FTP or do you use SCP?
[15:10] <Pici> saurabh_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:11] <Captain_Proton> resno, I would really upgrade to 12.04 they done a lot of work on dual monitors works really will
[15:11] <Captain_Proton> well*
[15:11] <numberto> schnuffle: no, but I thought when you buy hosting you get the sudo right too
[15:11] <mzcl-mn> I suspect the recent upgrading of mesa (last sunday) prevented me from using the proprietor drivers of amd and made it impossible to use compiz in ubuntu (unity 3d) does anyone know how to solve this?
[15:12] <Ormie> !pastebin > Ormie
[15:12] <schnuffle> numberto: Ask your ISP, I don't know
[15:12] <resno> Captain_Proton: haha, this is 12.04- fresh install even
[15:12] <kasun_> schnuffle, ActionParsnip, hi again, I killed the update-manager instance, and tried to run the dpkg command. But it I got "dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process"
[15:12] <Captain_Proton> resno, sorry I thought it was 11.10
[15:12] <Ormie> !pastebin
[15:12] <kasun_> schnuffle, ActionParsnip  shall I just remove the lock files?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> dual monitor on nivida  in 12.04 works well here also.
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | kasun_
[15:13] <schnuffle> kasun_: First check if there's another process, if not delete the lock file
[15:13] <Ormie> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025170/
[15:14] <Captain_Proton> resno, will now that you are at a desktop ask around for ATI help. I do not have any here so I am no help there
[15:14] <resno> Captain_Proton: nope, 12.04 64bit
[15:14] <kasun_> you guys are awesome... schnuffle ActionParsnip
[15:14] <resno> Captain_Proton: meh, it only worked in recovery, normal mode isnt working
[15:14] <mzcl-mn> ubottu: how does !pastebin command work?
[15:14] <mzcl-mn> ubottu: :)
[15:15] <dlentz> !botsnack
[15:15] <Captain_Proton> resno, it stilling trying to load the ati driver
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: you may need an xorg.conf if the display is not picking up
[15:15] <Ormie> Um...
[15:15] <schnuffle> mzcl-mn:  just pipe everything to pastebinit   <your command> | pastebinit
[15:15] <Ormie> !bot
[15:15] <aceps> Hi, Does anyone use icecat 12 on ubuntu? if so, I need some help with installation. Currently trying './configure && make && sudo make install' to make the installation, but get's this error: 'configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.'
[15:15] <Captain_Proton> is there any xorg.conf left in /etc/X11 ?
[15:15] <Ormie> Favorite info bot? lol.
[15:15] <aceps> I also tried version 10, same problem.
[15:16] <aceps> I'm using ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[15:16] <nachox> ActionParsnip, known issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/955675
[15:16] <mzcl-mn> thankyou schnuffle
[15:16] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, Well, I typed the command you gave me and it refresh as if I restart X
[15:16] <N3WB13>  <ubottu> paste this to the terminal: curl -s -S --data-urlencode "txt=$(sudo lshw -html)" "http://pastehtml.com/upload/create?input_type=html&result=address";echo; this is you are find?
[15:17] <Captain_Proton> I wonder if 64 bit is causing so of the problem? some of the compatible stuff is not 100%
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> aceps:  you did install the build essential package and all the needed dev packages to compile that app?
[15:17] <schnuffle> nachox: Damned could have avoided you the search, stunbled across it when first checking your question
[15:17] <Ormie> !yay
[15:17] <Ormie> !no
[15:17] <Ormie> What!
[15:17] <aceps> Dr_Willis, I'm not sure. How would I find out?
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> aceps:  i would guess you havent then. Install 'build-essential' and the needed dev packages
[15:18] <schnuffle> Ormie: no=norwegian
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> !compile
[15:18] <Ormie> Oh!
[15:18] <dlentz> aceps, audo apt-get build-dep icecat might help as well
[15:18] <ozpy> Hi guys... What software in linux is the one that  can open Corel Draw files? Tried gimp but was not successfull
[15:18] <dlentz> *sudo
[15:18] <aceps> Dr_Willis, OK
[15:19] <schnuffle> ozpy: Bitmap or Vector?
[15:19] <resno> seems ubuntu gets less stable each time i update :\
[15:19] <ozpy> schnuffle: I never heard of those ones. Let me try it out. You have experience with them?
[15:19] <schnuffle> resno: Was my impression as well but uü to now 12.04 does really strong
[15:19] <aceps> dlentz: thanks, I'll try it after build-essentials is done.
[15:20] <dlentz> ozpy, you can use python-uniconverter to convert to svg
[15:20]  * Ormie slaps ubottu
[15:21] <schnuffle> ozpy: bitmap or vector is a question which format you want to open. Gimp should do well with bitmap, for vecor you can try inkscape
[15:21] <Captain_Proton> resno, personally I think the push to 64bit is premature. If you can reinstall to 32bit. I think you will find it is alot faster and you will have less problems
[15:21] <mzcl-mn> resno: did you solve your problem?
[15:21] <ozpy> dlentz: Thanks. I'll try it
[15:21] <resno> mzcl-mn: nope, they just keep going and going
[15:21] <alecbenzer> does anyone know of an auto-tiling plugin for compiz that could be used with unity?
[15:22] <ozpy> schnuffle: Of I get it. It's for vector.
[15:22] <resno> Captain_Proton: im pretty close to that, cause im burning up time
[15:22] <dlentz> i've been using 64-bit Linux for 6 years, and it's much better than it used to be
[15:22] <Ormie> !th
[15:22] <mzcl-mn> resno: it is related to graphics driver isn't it?
[15:22] <Captain_Proton> mzcl-mn, resno he removed ati drivers, but it still tring to load them crasing xorg
[15:22] <Ormie> NICE!
[15:23] <mzcl-mn> resno: what procedure did you follow to uninstall
[15:23] <schnuffle> ozpy: So try inkscape, very good app but I'm not sure it can import Coral Draw files
[15:23] <Edler> what's the best repo i can add that has at least php 5.3.3 (for ubuntu 10.04lts)
[15:24] <resno> i can startx only from revoery..
[15:24] <resno> mzcl-mn: sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[15:24] <dlentz> resno, can you get an Xorg log from trying to start normally?
[15:24] <cpet> mzcl-mn: have you tried genrating a new xorg conf ?
[15:25] <Ormie> Who hired that guy with op on #ubuntu-th?
[15:25] <mzcl-mn> resno: so you had ubuntu's proprietary drivers am i right?
[15:25] <kasun_> ActionParsnip I ran the command you provided. It finished without errors. But when I run `sudo dpkg -l | grep grub` provides this output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025192/
[15:25] <resno> mzcl-mn: no, i use drivers from ati/amd sites. as the ones from ubunutu "driver manager" always failed to install
[15:25] <salbra75> !list
[15:25] <kasun_> ActionParsnip, schnuffle specifically, ub                                   0.97-29ubuntu64                         GRand Unified Bootloader (Legacy version) is there
[15:25] <kasun_> :(
[15:26] <cpet> resno: try generating a new xorg conf
[15:26] <resno> mzcl-mn: 1 failed, the other didnt improve the it
[15:26] <Edler> hey guys, what's the best repo i can add that has at least php 5.3.3 (for ubuntu 10.04lts)
[15:26] <mzcl-mn> resno: didn't you try to use their command to uninstall?
[15:26] <kasun_> ActionParsnip, schnuffle   i haven't removed legacy grub. Didn't it was a must!!
[15:27] <salbra75> !list
[15:27] <mzcl-mn> resno: sudo aticonfig --uninstall
[15:27] <Ormie> Can anyone solve me compiz problem?
[15:27] <mzcl-mn> Ormie: what problem exactly?
[15:28] <schnuffle> kasun_: a boot loader is a must, let me check what grub provides
[15:28] <Ormie> mzcl-mn, It's not quite a problem, I want to use compiz on ubuntu.
[15:28] <mzcl-mn> resno: but now perhaps it won't work
[15:29] <resno> mzcl-mn: says, one or more files have been altered since installion,
[15:29] <ozpy> How can I scroll the chat window up?... no right bar on the side for it
[15:29] <kasun_> schnuffle, sure... waiting for your reply.
[15:29] <resno> mzcl-mn: try forcing?
[15:29] <resno> ozpy: usually page up
[15:29] <dlentz> ozpy, page up?
[15:29] <mzcl-mn> resno: only last resort is to force (my policy)
[15:29] <ozpy> dlentz: thanks!
[15:29] <ozpy> resno: thanks!
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> Ormie unity is gnome3 with compiz
[15:30] <resno> mzcl-mn: is this a last resort?
[15:30] <dlentz> resno, can you get an Xorg log from trying to start normally?
[15:30] <mzcl-mn> resno: why don't you try to install ati again and then uninstall?
[15:30] <mzcl-mn> resno: it seems silly but may do the trick
[15:30] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, If there is compiz then, I want to customize compiz and use woobly windows and other effects.
[15:30] <Ormie> how?
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> is ubuntu protected against the 'flame' virus?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  in unity, it's a bad idea, i tried it
[15:31] <resno> mzcl-mn: ok, ill try it but i must run toa meeting. :(
[15:31] <schnuffle> kasun_:  when you try to install grub-pc what happens?
[15:31] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, what happened?
[15:31] <mzcl-mn> Ormie: what drivers are you using
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  buggy, hangs, becomes slow and instable
[15:31] <resno> thanks schnuffle dlentz mzcl-mn Captain_Proton hopefully i can get it resolved on my return
[15:31] <mzcl-mn> resno: no worries
[15:31] <mzcl-mn> resno: good luck
[15:31] <schnuffle> resno: good luck
[15:31] <Captain_Proton> resno, :)
[15:31] <dlentz> resno, what kind of card was it again?
[15:31] <Ormie> mzcl-mn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025170/
[15:31] <resno> we can try with my other desktop later... its havnig a similar driver issue
[15:32] <resno> dlentz: radeon hd 6350
[15:32] <resno> ill be "away" if yall think of anything
[15:32] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, I just type "compiz --replace" will that be ok?
[15:33]  * Ormie yawns
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  i guess you want ccsm
[15:33] <Ormie> huh?
[15:33] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, What do you mean?
[15:33] <retis> hi i am using ubuntu 10.04, installed Netbeans IDE 6.7.1 from neatbean archive, now i want to delete it but i could't able to find it in my synaptic package manager,can any one please tell me how can i uninstall that by using terminal?
[15:33] <mzcl-mn> resno: today a friend of mine had a problem with an amd similar if not equal to yours
[15:34] <Ormie> retis, sudo apt-get remove netbeans*
[15:34] <kasun_> schnuffle, nothing special. it installed
[15:34] <retis> Ormie, tried but not working
[15:34] <schnuffle> retis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/76908/how-to-uninstall-netbeans
[15:34] <core1765> Hello...anyone have an issue with updates yesterday. Downloaded some updates and ran rkhunter found 135 suspicious files. Didn't look into them to closely though
[15:34] <ska> is there any indirect way to see what the status/progress of an upgrade is?
[15:35] <kasun_> let me give the log
[15:35] <mzcl-mn> Ormie: have you used compiz in ubuntu before?
[15:35] <kasun_> schnuffle, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025208/
[15:35] <mzcl-mn> ska: i believe there's one
[15:36] <Ormie> mzcl-mn, No, But I used it on other distro.  I also did the sudo apt-get --reinstall install grub-pc. it starts from line 6 there
[15:37] <bluechaos> hey guys
[15:37] <mzcl-mn> it'll show you the progression of recent installations
[15:38] <core1765> kasun does this relate to the updates yesterday?
[15:38] <bluechaos> who know to tell me how to replace desktop from ubuntu 12.03 with 11.10
[15:38] <schnuffle> kasun_: Aaah  see so what is the remaining problem?
[15:38] <C-S-B> 12.04
[15:38] <mzcl-mn> ska: but it will also allow you to change the file so be careful
[15:39] <bluechaos> someone ?
[15:39] <kevinprince> Hi, im wondering if anyone can help with a multi display setup?
[15:39] <kasun_> schnuffle, Im scared to reboot right now. specially after seeing this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025192/
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> !ccsm| Ormie
[15:40] <core1765> bluechaos you have a choice of desktops do you have unity or kde?
[15:40] <kasun_> schnuffle, the version of grub is still 0.97-29ubuntu64
[15:40] <kasun_> am i just being paranoid
[15:40] <kasun_> ?
[15:40] <C-S-B> kasun_, it's not difficult to install grub. :D
[15:40] <schnuffle> kasun_: Why that looks fine.  rc means removed
[15:40] <C-S-B> core1765, he left.
[15:40] <schnuffle> kasun_: You should run update-grub
[15:41] <kasun_> schnuffle, oh really? I didn't know that. phew
[15:41] <core1765> C-S-B any ideas about any updates being corrupted yesterday?
[15:41] <core1765> relating to grub
[15:41] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, So does my hardware support compiz? My VGA Card worked great with aero though, I got 2.6 for aero.
[15:41] <salbra75> hello
[15:41] <zihan> which desktop you are using?
[15:41] <kasun_> C-S-B, well, there was a I experimented. Can't do this anymore with the work now ;)
[15:41] <kasun_> *there was a time
[15:41] <C-S-B> core1765, no sorry, I'm fully up to date. no prob with grub.
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  don't know, i don't use it myself
[15:42] <core1765> when I updated yesterday ran rkhunter and detected 135 suspicious files
[15:42] <salbra75> !list
[15:42] <zihan> How to config the alsamixer?
[15:43] <Ormie> okay.
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: Windows has different support and driver structure so is irrelevant
[15:44] <C-S-B> kasun_, if you want to be sure grub is there, just do grub-update /dev/sdx where sdx is your boot drive.
[15:44] <Ormie> ok, you are idle for sometime.
[15:44] <flyingrain> whois ActionParsnip
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: I was, I'm at work...
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> flyingrain: ni what sense?
[15:45] <Ormie> Oh!
[15:45] <flyingrain> never mind
[15:45] <flyingrain> This is my first time to use irc
[15:45] <kasun_> C-S-B, yea...i probably should... im again impressed with #ubuntu 's volunteering service. cheers! schnuffle ActionParsnip
[15:46] <salbra75> !list
[15:47] <schnuffle> kasun_: you're welcome
[15:47] <Ormie> !list
[15:47] <flyingrain> I am a newcoming .which channel should I join?
[15:47] <Ormie> What is !list ?
[15:47] <aceps> with 'sudo apt-get build-dep icecat' I get this error: 'unable to find source package for icecat'
[15:48] <fidel> flyingrain: irc is topic-based - so it depends on what areayou feel interest in the first place
[15:48] <fidel> flyingrain: in case you have issues with ubuntu - this is the right place
[15:48] <flyingrain> ok thanks
[15:49] <thebwt> I installed a custom version of a package (libgnutls26) to implement a fix. Now that fix is in the repo version of the package. Is there an easy way to make dpkg forget my package and start using the one in the repos again?
[15:49] <fidel> flyingrain: if you want do general & somehow ubuntu related topics - consider the offtopic channel.
[15:49] <flyingrain> how?
[15:49] <core1765> list
[15:49] <fidel> flyingrain: if you ever want to discuss php-stuff -> dont mind jumping to the #php/##php channel
[15:49] <fidel> flyingrain: what how?
[15:50] <fidel> !ot > flyingrain
[15:50] <flyingrain> how to change channel
[15:50] <fidel> basically: /join #channelname
[15:50] <fidel> flyingrain: the bot should have send you a private message regarding the offtopic channel
[15:51] <salbra75> ciao
[15:51] <salbra75> !lista
[15:51] <core1765> anyone run rkhunter after updating recently?
[15:52] <core1765> realizing you always get false positives but had over 100
[15:52] <bluechaos> core1765,
[15:52] <flyingrain> #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:53] <fidel> flyingrain: not like that - its: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:53] <fidel> or: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:53] <flyingrain> I see
[15:53] <fidel> use /join - as /j is a client-specific binding here ;)
[15:54] <flyingrain> I did it
[15:54] <fidel> flyingrain: freenode itself (theirc network you are using) runs some additionalchannels themself - where you can get help regarding theirc-service of freenode itself
[15:54] <fidel> have fun ;)
[15:55] <flyingrain> ok
[15:57] <crispus> I'm trying to run '/usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/sdc1' as non-root, but I keep getting 'Mount failed: Not Authorized'.  What gives?
[15:57] <crispus> I can run it as root, but it's not accessible to normal users
[15:57] <lgp171188> Hi, I have a Reliance Netconnect+ data card (in India) that I used with Ubuntu 11.10 amd64 to connect and access the internet. It worked out of the box with Network Manager. In 12.04, on doing the same thing, it gets connected briefly, gets IP addresses, routes and DNS servers from the ISP and then gets disconnected with the following message in the syslog - http://dpaste.com/755600/. Not sure what could be the issue here. The modem is a Huawei EC159 m
[15:57] <compdoc> crispus, the folder you try to mount to must have the right perms
[15:58] <lake> does the ipod 4g work with ubuntu out of the box?
[15:58] <lake> ipod touch 4g*
[15:58] <crispus> compdoc: how would i go about changing that?
[16:00] <compdoc> crispus, sorry, I have to go
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> lake: could try the liveCD to test
[16:01] <Ormie> !yay > Ormie
[16:01] <Ormie> !yay | Ormie
[16:02] <Ormie> Yay for me, Compiz on a netbook!
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  geek, you congratulate yourself
[16:02] <Ormie> Compiz on netbook!
[16:02] <Ormie> Cool.
[16:02] <Jef91> when I hit apply in synaptic it is telling me applying changes will cause broken packages - is there any way for it to tell me which packages are being broken by my marked changes?
[16:05]  * ShinyObjects high-fives Ormie
[16:05] <davids86> ciao
[16:05] <davids86> list
[16:05] <davids86> !list
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Jef91: if you close it and run:  sudo apt-get -f install     is it 0 installed, zero updated?
[16:06] <Jef91> yes ActionParnsip
[16:06] <Jef91> yes ActionParsnip
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Jef91: what if you install in terminal, what is output?
[16:06] <fidel> ActionParsnip: in case you remember the flash convo he had some minutes ago:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025118/
[16:06] <Ormie> Unity bar, It's not coming out?
[16:07] <Ormie> now, totally unusable system?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> fidel: ah yes
[16:07] <Ormie> oh no.
[16:07] <cypher-neo> Ormie, What is Unity bar?
[16:07] <Abhijit> how can I *only* updage adobe flash on my 12.04?
[16:07] <aFeijoBR> hi guys, I was wondering how could I setup an ubuntu desktop to be a video streaming server?
[16:07] <Abhijit> help pease
[16:07] <Abhijit> please*
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: press Windows key, calm down
[16:07] <ShinyObjects> Ormie, try the super key
[16:07] <fidel> Abhijit: just curious: why wouldnt you NOT update other packages?
[16:07] <ShinyObjects> (Oh yeah, as ActionParsnip says - windows key)
[16:07] <cypher-neo> Abhijit, Update to what?
[16:08] <ShinyObjects> Hey ActionParsnip: do you hang out at #jupitercolony on geekshed?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> fidel: let me make a pastebin
[16:08]  * cypher-neo will brb
[16:08] <Abhijit> fidel, no time.
[16:08] <ShinyObjects> I'm trying to think if I remember you from this channel only, or if I saw you there.
[16:08] <Gnea> Abhijit: just un-select the other packages from the update-manager
[16:08] <Abhijit> cyphase, adobe flash ??
[16:08] <Abhijit> Gnea, OOkey!
[16:09] <Gnea> Abhijit: assuming that that's the method you're using
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> fidel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025272/
[16:09] <Abhijit> Gnea, hes
[16:10] <Gnea> Abhijit: yeah, that should do it. it's one of the nice features of UM :)
[16:10] <fidel> ActionParsnip: thanks
[16:11] <pirroh> is there any chan where I can get support on landscape?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> pirroh: #landscape maybe
[16:11] <arno_> Hi. What's the best way to disable my touchpad. I do it with "synclient TouchPadOff=1" but where is the best place I can put that for each startup ?
[16:11] <ska> I probably should have launched the upgrade from a terminal console.
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> !alis | pirroh
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> arno_: does it need root access?
[16:12] <arno_> ActionParsnip: no
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> arno_: then use the startup application in dash and make a startup item to run the command )
[16:13] <pirroh> ActionParsnip: thanks
[16:14] <superhero1> my vps uses -key to login to ssh. if i want sftp acces. how do i give the key?
[16:14] <arno_> ActionParsnip: thanks, it worked
[16:15] <llutz> superhero1: sftp -i path/keyfile user@host
[16:16] <superhero1> llutz ok. and where to put it? how to sftp.?
[16:16] <superhero1> llutz i need to allow which port for sftp? iam using amazon ec2
[16:17] <llutz> superhero1: sftp -i path/keyfile user@host            <- thats the command to sftp
[16:17] <crispus> I'm trying to run '/usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/sdc1' as non-root, but I keep getting 'Mount failed: Not Authorized'.  What gives?
[16:17] <superhero1> llutz i dont know how to upload files by sftp
[16:17] <superhero1> llutz i wanted to use filezila
[16:18] <llutz> superhero1: why don't you say that then?
[16:18] <pzn> after upgrading to 12.04, the volume-up volume-down keys change too much at a single keypress. how to change this? I want to change less when I press them...
[16:18] <llutz> superhero1: idk how filezilla handles keys, try to configure your host in ~/.ssh/config
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> crispus: do you not have access to sudo?
[16:19] <crispus> If i run it as root, normal users dont have access
[16:19] <ska> Can I restart a  "do-release-upgrade -d" if it crashes my Xorg? ?
[16:19] <superhero1> llutz ok. how can i upload files by command line then?
[16:19] <superhero1> llutz the command to tupload
[16:20] <llutz> superhero1: ftp-like, read "man sftp" (put file)
[16:20] <superhero1> llutz after i connect to sftp
[16:20] <superhero1> llutz ok
[16:20] <superhero1> llutz thx
[16:21] <crispus> ActionParsnip: If i run it as root, normal users dont have access
[16:22] <ayecee> I'd like to upgrade directly from 10.04LTS to 12.04, however instead I'm prompted by update manager to upgrade to 10.10 first. How do I get it to go directly to 12.04 instead?
[16:23] <fidel> ayecee: you'll have to wait for 12.04.1 for direct update
[16:23] <fidel> from lts to lts - afaik scheduled for next month - check ubuntu docs for more details
[16:23] <ShinyObjects> crispus: check out the allow_other option for mount
[16:24] <ayecee> no way to upgrade directly now, as a test? we'd like to be ready for when 12.04.1 comes down.
[16:24] <fidel> ayecee: you can however do it right now - using some paramter while calling update-manager if thats what you are looking for
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> ayecee  August 23rd
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> Beta FeatureFreeze Ubuntu 12.04.1
[16:24] <Edler> how to enable apc in php 5.4 ?
[16:24] <ayecee> fidel: yes, thanks. This is a commandline option? I'll check the manpage.
[16:24] <crispus> ShinyObjects: ok thanks
[16:25] <szerzetes> hi! I have a problem with login screen. I install ati Radeon Mobility x1600 driver from amd, and when I restart the laptop, it not load the login sceen, only the tty1.
[16:25] <arno_> I've another question: I'm trying to set custom keyboard shortcuts (with the system settings/keyboard) using Win Key, but I cannot have them working. Is there something special I need to do to enable Win-key shortcuts ?
[16:25] <szerzetes> After I loged in, and type: sudo service lightdm start, the lightdm starts and work fine
[16:25] <szerzetes> I use Xubuntu 12.04
[16:25] <neo1691> Hey guys if anyone has nvidia drivers please let me know what is better, bumblebee or ironhead
[16:26] <ShinyObjects> sure thing crispus
[16:27] <neo1691> [typo-correct] Hey guys if anyone has nvidia graphics card using optimus please let me know what is better, bumblebee or ironhead
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: I'd go for ironhide, i don't use it though
[16:28] <neo1691> Okay thanks!! It is newer maybe thats why its better
[16:29] <flyingcoding> any chanese here?
[16:29] <flyingcoding> any chinese here?
[16:30] <jleroux> hi
[16:30] <thebwt> I installed a custom version of a package (libgnutls26) to implement a fix. Now that fix is in the repo version of the package. Is there  an easy way to make dpkg forget my package and start using the one in the repos again?
[16:30] <xro1> Hi
[16:30] <jleroux> i'd really like to visit the ubuntu forums but I'm getting "Sorry. The administrator has banned your IP address."
[16:30] <Partyschaum> i'm using lucid 10.04 and want to update the virtual box guest additions / tools / kernel modules. any hints on how to do this since an apt-get update / upgrade doesn't work...
[16:30] <jleroux> what can i do to get the IP unbanned
[16:30] <krababbel> jleroux: contact an admin
[16:31] <jleroux> how, the site wont let me without logging in
[16:31] <jussi> jleroux: you might find someone to help in #ubuntuforums
[16:31] <jleroux> thanks, i'll try that
[16:31] <jussi> *might*
[16:31] <krababbel> jleroux: usually you can send an email, maybe
[16:32] <xro1> I installed ubuntu 12.04 and i cannot mount a sdcard... I get the following error in dmesg --> http://dpaste.com/755622/ ...  Have you an idea? Can you help me?
[16:33] <ayecee> for those who were curious, "update-manager -d" allows you to upgrade directly from 10.04 to 12.04 ahead of the 12.04.1 release
[16:34] <Ormie> i wanna have the screensaver on ubuntu.
[16:34] <Ormie> how?
[16:35] <jleroux> has "Install a command-line system." been removed from teh alternate install cd?
[16:36] <Ormie> FloodBot1 = Real, FloodBot2 = FAKE, FloodBot3 = Real.
[16:36] <brahmana> Hi all
[16:36] <brahmana> I have a Ubuntu machine running on the Amazon's AWS cloud
[16:37] <ki4ro> Ormie: Have a look here:  http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/add-enable-screensavers-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> jleroux: I'd use minimal for that
[16:37] <brahmana> The underlying physical machine experienced some connectivity problems and I am guessing that the only connected hard-drive (/dev/sda1) was not reachable during that period.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> xro1: what file system is the partition on the SD card?
[16:38] <brahmana> Now, would that result in the OS shutting down? (or crashing)?
[16:38] <NoVoteLoss> anyone use midori browser? im trying to check it out, but after i start it i am unable to load any pages, saying it cannot resolve proxy hostname....but i have it set to no proxy
[16:38] <jleroux> ActionParsnip, cool. I'll give it a try
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> NoVoteLoss: do you use a proxy?
[16:38] <NoVoteLoss> not at all ActionParsnip
[16:38] <Ormie> thanks.
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> jleroux: installs from the web too, so makes less need to manually update after install
[16:39] <NoVoteLoss> my opera and firefox work fine ActinoParsnip
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> NoVoteLoss: I use it but i don't use a proxy. Is the proxy setting in the settings set?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> NoVoteLoss: does midori use ~/.mozilla for config?
[16:39] <brahmana_> Got disconnected, not sure if anyone said anything about my question.
[16:39] <kish> how do i start the image manager?
[16:40] <xro1> ActionParsnip,i don't know but  i would like to format it...
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> xro1: fire up gparted, see if it can do it
[16:40] <brahmana_> To simplify the question, will the OS shutdown or crash if the only disk connected to the system becomes unavailable?
[16:40] <Seryth> Hey guys. I currently run Obuntu (openbox + ubuntu 11.10) using Alsa for sound; however when I turned on my computer today, I can't hear any sound...I've not done anything that I can think of, but I can't work out why I can hear nothing...any help greatly appreciated!
[16:41] <xro1> ActionParsnip, cannot do it with "disk utility"?
[16:41] <kish> neveermmind
[16:41] <NoVoteLoss> Seryth that used to happen on my crunchbang setup, the damn speaker settings would mute themselves but not the main volume control
[16:43] <Seryth> NoVoteLoss: Ah...any idea where I can fix this from?
[16:43] <Seryth> BobMarley: Loving the nick ;)
[16:43] <BobMarley> Seryth, thanks
[16:43] <xro1> ActionParsnip, So gparted does not see the sdcard!
[16:44] <NoVoteLoss> Seryth if you run alsamixer from terminal are all of them up
[16:44] <Seryth> NoVoteLoss: "Surround Down Mix" is iff
[16:44] <Seryth> off*
[16:45] <NoVoteLoss> you should be able to use the arrow keys to move over to it and turn it up.
[16:45] <NoVoteLoss> see if that helps.
[16:45] <NoVoteLoss> as far as permanent fix.....maybe someone else can help you, idk about writing scripts and all. but i can read em and tweak em. lol
[16:46] <zykotick9> brahmana_: i'd expect it to crash, quickly and hard.
[16:47] <Seryth> NoVoteLoss: I put everything up to the white level, still no soud
[16:47] <Seryth> sound*
[16:47] <krababbel> Seryth: have you removed PA?
[16:47] <Seryth> ,
[16:47] <Seryth> oops
[16:47] <Seryth> krababbel: What do you mean? I've not removed anything...
[16:48] <krababbel> Seryth: you wrote you used alsa, pulse audio is the new sound system in 12. maybe not in 11. sorry
[16:48] <xro1> does someone coud help me to debug my sdcard?  i cannot see it... and i get an error in dmesg when i insert it... I use ubuntu 12.04
[16:49] <Socket-> Hey all, I host a minecraft server for my little brother on my ubuntu box. I have it running in a screen session as his user account.  I want him to be able to remote in via SSH and access the screen session, but nothing else. Any ideas how to do this? If he stops the server I want it to drop him from shell access
[16:49] <Seryth> krababbel: Aah, I'm with you now. No. I used to use Pulse Audio, but....don't any more.
[16:50] <krababbel> isn't that unsupported? why not using it? the new version in 12 got better surely
[16:50] <krababbel> but if alsa can't play even ...
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> xro1: is it part of a laptop?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> krababbel: pulse has been default for a long while now
[16:51] <krababbel> Seryth: isn't there aplay to test the card? did you try that?
[16:51] <krababbel> I see ActionParsnip
[16:51] <xro1> ActionParsnip, yes... a dell 1743... My sdcard worked with my old version of ubuntu (8.04 i think)
[16:51] <Seryth> krababbel: Nothing happens when I run aplay
[16:52] <designbybeck> xro1: that is a laptop correct
[16:52] <designbybeck> xro1:  are you having problems with the headphone jack?
[16:53] <krababbel> Seryth: I'd try a ubuntu precise livecd. Other than that, look what module parameters you sound device needs maybe.
[16:54] <xro1> designbybeck, yes it is... and YES... i just notice it...
[16:54] <Seryth> krababbel: I'm just confused as to how this could happen out of the blue like it has. I've not even done apt-get update for a while
[16:54] <Ca11umD> With regards to the Update Manager, which Software Sources are strictly updates, and not new installations?
[16:55] <Ca11umD> Or are all just updates, because the 'Recommended Updates' seem to have a hell of a lot of stuff.
[16:55] <Ca11umD> sources*
[16:55] <krababbel> Seryth: unfortunaltely such things do happen, happened to me also. computers are mean :)
[16:55] <Seryth> Also, on another note: If I run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", will it just upgrade to 12.04 and keep all my files as they are? Or will shenanigans happen and I'll lose my stuff? (obviously I'll back it up anyway, just out of interest...)
[16:56] <designbybeck> xro1: was it working?
[16:56] <krababbel> home shouldn't be touched, and if it overwrites some config, it should ask Seryth
[16:56] <designbybeck> Check out this post.... I am bcooperb on there and that is what I did that fix my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469949
[16:56] <xro1> designbybeck, no the jack is not working...
[16:57] <designbybeck> not sure if you are having that same problem
[16:57] <xro1> designbybeck, what problem?
[16:57] <Seryth> krababbel: Great, thanks. What about other connected drives? It won't touch them will it?
[16:57] <jiffe98> anyone know how to get stunnel working with sslv2?
[16:57] <designbybeck> but I to have a Dell Studio 17 laptop and I have to do that everytime i install
[16:57] <ubuntu-studio> livros
[16:57] <Ca11umD> Installing all 203 updates won't make the system become too bulky and slow, will it?
[16:57] <krababbel> Seryth: why should it? it will upgrade you installed software
[16:58] <Seryth> krababbel: I'm updating now ;)
[16:58] <xro1> designbybeck, i had to fixed the headphone when i installed... but for the moment i need my sdcard.... do you know how to fix it?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Ca11umD: no, it replaces the binaries you already have
[16:58] <designbybeck> not other than what I posted, sorry xro1
[16:59] <zykotick9> xro1: what is the dmesg error when you insert a card?
[17:00] <xro1> zykotick9, Jun  5 18:46:16 b4ck kernel: [ 4160.104547] mmc0: ADMA error
[17:00] <xro1> Jun  5 18:46:16 b4ck kernel: [ 4160.104620] mmc0: error -5 whilst initialising SD card
[17:00] <zykotick9> xro1: is this backtrack?
[17:00] <xro1> zykotick9, nop... b4ck is my username :P
[17:01] <xro1> zykotick9, it's a ubuntu 12.04 with unity (fresh install)
[17:02] <xro1> zykotick9, the dmesg in a better way --> http://dpaste.com/755632/
[17:02] <jiffe98> hah
[17:03] <jiffe98> the openssl s_client is erroring out because it doesn't recognize the -ssl2 option, and then lists available options of which -ssl2 is one of them
[17:03] <Kanerix> jiffe98, you may need to update openssl
[17:03] <funkymonk> I'm looking at Analog (the www log analyzing app). How do I compile it for Ubuntu?
[17:04] <Kanerix> force reinstall
[17:04] <Kanerix> funkymonk, does it have documentation for how to compile it?
[17:04] <Kanerix> most source distributions do
[17:05] <funkymonk> Kanerix: this is the download page http://www.analog.cx/download.html
[17:05] <Kanerix> okay?
[17:05] <Kanerix> What do you want me to do?
[17:05] <Kanerix> I can't think for you
[17:06] <Kanerix> It even says what to do at the very bottom of the page
[17:06] <zykotick9> xro1: does "lspci -v | grep -i rocoh" return "03:00.0 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd Device e822"?
[17:06] <Kanerix> "These packages contain the source code for all versions, and instructions. It compiles "out of the box" on most operating systems. "
[17:07] <xro1> zykotick9, lspci -v | grep -i rocoh does not return anything....
[17:07] <Kanerix> xro1, try "ricoh" instead ;)
[17:08] <funkymonk> Kanerix: Doh!!! and so it does. Thanks I'll have a read through them and see what I can make of it. I've never compile source code before but willing to learn
[17:08] <zykotick9> xro1: ok.  seems there are several different issues with dell and sd card readers.  do you know what the sd-reader hardware is by chance?  might narrow the search.  "lspci -v" might show it, if you can try to make an educated guess as to which one...
[17:08] <xro1> zykotick9, Kanerix, not better... lspci -v --> http://dpaste.com/755634/
[17:09] <jiffe98> Kanerix: I'm running the latest 12.04 has to offer
[17:09] <Kanerix> jiffe98, I did mention to force reinstall
[17:09] <Kanerix> something got mucked up
[17:09] <AceFace> hello all!
[17:09] <Kanerix> xro1, 14:00.1 SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Device 8120 (rev 01) (prog-if 01)
[17:10] <WJC-0205> hello AceFace
[17:10] <jiffe98> Kanerix: not likely, happening on multiple machines
[17:10] <AceFace> how ya doing, WJC-0205?

[17:10] <xro1> Kanerix, yes.. i saw it... and?
[17:10] <WJC-0205> AceFace: not much just chilling haha
[17:11] <Kanerix> xro1, I came in after the initial problem description. It looked like he was trying to help you find your SD card reader
[17:11] <Kanerix> so I was trying to help
[17:12] <xro1> Kanerix, the problem is that i cannot use my sdcard... when i insert a sdcard i get dmesg --> http://dpaste.com/755637/
[17:12] <Kanerix> oh nice... yeah that's not so good
[17:12] <Kanerix> um
[17:12] <zykotick9> xro1: i do agree with Kanerix that that "SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Device 8120" is probably your card reader.  i see issues with older ubuntu versions, (and also that even older versions worded) BUT i can't find anything current.  best of luck - hope someone else has better google-fu then me ;)
[17:13] <Kanerix> xro1, Can you pastebin "lsmod"?
[17:13] <funkymonk> Kanerix: I downloaded the files and looked at readme.txt which simply had one line pointing to http://www.analog.cx/docs/Readme.html I dont see any mention about compiling.
[17:14] <xro1> Kanerix, lsmod --> http://dpaste.com/755639/
[17:14] <usr13> xro1: What version of Ubuntu?
[17:14] <Kanerix> funkymonk, is there a file in the source tarball labelled something like "INSTALL" or so on?
[17:14] <xro1> usr13, 12.04
[17:15] <zykotick9> !info analog | funkymonk why not use the one in repository?
[17:15] <Kanerix> damnation
[17:16] <Kanerix> I'm not sure if my last message went through
[17:16] <Kanerix> > xro1, modprobe sdhci-pci
[17:17] <zykotick9> funkymonk: using compiled software for packages in the repository can lead to sadness... just sayin'
[17:18] <usr13> xro1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/660088 #Scroll to bottom, read last 3 posts.
[17:18] <xro1> Kanerix, does not change anything
[17:18] <Kanerix> xro1, well, there you go. Looks like it's a bug
[17:18] <funkymonk> Kanerix: I tried searching for it from the "Ubuntu Software Centre" and it didn't come up but I've found it now.
[17:18] <wcchandler> how can I run an app from unity with sudo rights?
[17:18] <zykotick9> xro1: that's a bug for 10.04
[17:19] <usr13> wcchandler: What?
[17:19] <NoVoteLoss> wchandler why not use terminal...
[17:19] <wcchandler> NoVoteLoss: quicker from unity
[17:19] <Kanerix> apparently it isn't
[17:19] <NoVoteLoss> lol
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: make a nw launcher but prefix the Exec= command with gksudo
[17:20] <NoVoteLoss> yay action to the rescue
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: I have the same on my laptop
[17:21] <wcchandler> ActionParsnip: yeah, gets frustrating with wireshark and putty
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: lets me run my fullupgrade script via GUI, also uses notify-osd to show progress :)
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: why run putty with gksudo?
[17:21] <wcchandler> ActionParsnip: you're special then :P
[17:21] <wcchandler> ActionParsnip: access to serial device
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: If I was home I could pastebin it for you
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: ahhhh, makes sense
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: no group you can add your user to to get access?
[17:22] <wcchandler> yeah, POS laptops never have onboard serial so I always wonder if it's a problem with my laptop, the docking thingy or the fact I didn't go in with sudo rights
[17:23] <brahmana> zykotick9: ping
[17:23] <wcchandler> ActionParsnip: haven't researched enough...  I was hoping it'd be easier to just gksudo putty from unity
[17:23] <xro1> Kanerix, usr13, zykotick9, ok it works.... i had to create a config file in /etc/modeprobe.d/sdhci-pci.conf then reload the module....
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: if it works then why not ;)
[17:23] <zykotick9> xro1: nice
[17:23] <Kanerix> xro1, sweet!
[17:23] <resno> mzcl-mn: what was the fix?
[17:23] <wa33lock> ok
[17:23] <Kanerix> Yeah module wasn't loaded
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> wcchandler: could check the ownerships etc of the block device, maybe they aren't root:root
[17:23] <resno> wcchandler: ?
[17:24] <wcchandler> resno: ha
[17:24] <brahmana> zykotick9: Remember my question about  OS stopping/crashing on the only disk attached becoming not available?
[17:24] <resno> wcchandler: fancy seeing you here
[17:24] <wcchandler> resno: I had the exact sentence typed out
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> xro1: to make the module load, you can add it in /etc/modules
[17:24] <brahmana> zykotick9: I got disconnected before I could respond to your answer (power cut)
[17:24] <resno> wcchandler: having video card issues :(
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> xro1: if it already loads you are fine :)
[17:24] <wcchandler> resno: you are?
[17:24] <zykotick9> xro1: thanks for bringing the solution to the channels attention - nice to see that, doesn't happen enough
[17:25] <brahmana> zykotick9: Will there be any traces of the crash? in any of the system logs?
[17:25] <mzcl-mn> resno: perhaps trying to install amd drivers again again
[17:25] <resno> wcchandler: yea, seems an update through everything off... fun fun
[17:25] <resno> mzcl-mn: ill give it a spin
[17:25] <xro1> ActionParsnip, yes... but i loads now... i had to create a config file -->  cat /etc/modprobe.d/sdhci-pci.conf
[17:25] <xro1> options sdhci debug_quirks=0x40
[17:25] <mzcl-mn> resno: and uninstalling them after
[17:26] <mzcl-mn> but with sudo aticonfig --uninstall
[17:26] <xro1> zykotick9, it could help help someone.... Or maybe improve the debugger skills :p
[17:26] <brahmana> zykotick9: Also would the behavior change if the disk is on a Storage Area Network, as is the case here (EBS attached to an EC2 instance on the Amazon's AWS cloud) ?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> xro1: the name of the file is irrelevant (except the file extension), the text in the file is what matters :)
[17:27] <mzcl-mn> resno:  refresh my memory
[17:27] <Kanerix> ActionParsnip, at least he got it working =p
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> xro1: I suggest you backup that file along with your other data to make reinstalls easier
[17:27] <resno> mzcl-mn: ok, so the installer says fglrx is installed, but i cant remove fglrx using purge... should i force it now?
[17:27] <mzcl-mn> resno: yours was a ... problem
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Kanerix: indeed
[17:27] <resno> mzcl-mn: video card - and radeon 6350
[17:27] <resno> mzcl-mn: "hd" radeon 6350
[17:28] <Mike9863> I'm trying to install swftools on my server, however I get the following error when compiling from the source: http://pastebin.com/2FmKKF6U and when I try to install from a .deb I get this error: http://pastebin.com/eCDvZJzc Can anyone help me?
[17:29] <Kanerix> Mike9863, is your kernel custom-compiled?
[17:29] <Mike9863> Kanerix: I don't think so
[17:29] <Kanerix> uname -a
[17:29] <zykotick9> Mike9863: try installing libjpeg8, then try again.
[17:29] <Mike9863> Kanerix: Linux name 2.6.31-302-rs #7 SMP Thu Oct 29 22:57:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:29] <xro1> So bye Ubuntu guys...
[17:30] <szu> hi
[17:30] <sirius> Hello!!!
[17:30] <jasonbourne> anyone help with this message I have on bootup: cfg80211: failed to add phy80211 symlink to netdev!
[17:30] <jasonbourne> never came up before
[17:30] <sirius> italiano?
[17:30] <Mike9863> zykotick9: This is the error I get when trying to install libjpeg8 from a deb http://pastebin.com/WrdY0gey
[17:30] <zykotick9> !it | sirius
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> !it
[17:30] <mzcl-mn> resno: sorry I've made a mistake, my friend's amd is a 5800 series
[17:30] <mzcl-mn> ;(
[17:31] <zykotick9> !info libjpeg8 | Mike9863 why from deb?
[17:31] <Kanerix> Mike9863, so install multiarch-support
[17:31] <resno> mzcl-mn: i cant believe it! i ran it once with force and bam!
[17:31] <resno> mzcl-mn: all my troubles are gone
[17:31] <mzcl-mn> resno: is that so?
[17:31] <zykotick9> Mike9863: lol multiarch issue - sorry i'm out.  i have no idea how multiarch works sorry.
[17:31] <resno> mzcl-mn: i think the update reinstalled fglrx which is an issue
[17:31] <mzcl-mn> resno: those are great news
[17:31] <systest> anyone know of a mechanism to determine which release was used to originally install a system?  /etc/lsb-release only shows current and a I don't trust the kernel as an indicator for 32 vs 64bit
[17:32] <szu> so... i finaly installed linux on my pc... and i have s some problems. can some1 help me?
[17:32] <mzcl-mn> !
[17:32] <wooy> Hello, I have installed a package that has version number 2.6 in ubuntu 12.04. In the meantime there is new version 2.7 available for installation from source file. How can i update the package with the new version?
[17:32] <mzcl-mn> resno: u forced uninstall of amd drivers correct?
[17:32] <jasonbourne> wooy = try this: apt-get update
[17:32] <zykotick9> wooy: generally a bad idea to got out of repository for updates... just sayin'
[17:33] <zykotick9> !latest | wooy
[17:33] <wooy> jasonbourne, i did, for package version there is only 2.6
[17:33] <szu> so first of all... everything is crashing... midori, irc etc etc
[17:33] <werder> wooy: there might be a ppa for it
[17:33] <Kanerix> zykotick9, I think he's on non-standard kernel or non-standard hardware
[17:33] <jasonbourne> ok wooy....just thought you may have not tried that yet...
[17:33] <olskolirc> wooy what program would you like to uninstall sudo apt-get remove packagename and compile from source?
[17:33] <zykotick9> Kanerix: there's some amd64/something else for sure ;)
[17:33] <szu> any1?
[17:33] <Kanerix> aye, that's why I'm curious as to what uname says
[17:34] <Kanerix> I've had some experience with cross-compiling on non-standard architectures
[17:34] <jasonbourne> anyone help with this error msg I have on bootup: cfg80211: failed to add phy80211 symlink to netdev!
[17:34] <wooy> olskolirc, its ykclient. If I try to uninstall the package, other packages are uninstall with it
[17:35] <wooy> werder, how can i find out the PPA?
[17:35] <szu> guys...
[17:35] <zykotick9> !ppa | wooy
[17:35] <Kanerix> jasonbourne, reload your wifi module driver
[17:36] <WarOfTheNerd> PPAs are potentially dangerous too
[17:36] <werder> szu: what's your question?
[17:36] <WarOfTheNerd> make sure you know who makes the packages
[17:36] <olskolirc> core system package wooy?  usually other software will install and uninstall with whatever package you are trying to manage.  If you uninstall say, kate, and you are on kubuntu, then you will uninstall the whole kubuntu system.  It just depends.
[17:36] <WarOfTheNerd> as they could have malware for all you know
[17:36] <resno> mzcl-mn: no, forced install of the driver
[17:36] <jasonbourne> Kanerix, can u help with the command to do that??
[17:36] <ansgar_> #kassiopeia1
[17:36] <resno> mzcl-mn: removed fglrx and then force installed the amd catalyst drivers
[17:37] <szu> werder so first of all why is everything crashing?
[17:37] <Kanerix> jasonbourne, depends on what your wifi card is and what driver you need to reload. Can you pastebin lsmod?
[17:37] <wooy> olskolirc, no its just yubikey client. The other dependant package is PAM module based on yubikey. I just need to make hot swap, i dont want all the other packages to be uninstalled with it.
[17:37] <mzcl-mn> resno:
[17:37] <szu> just irc fb messenger and i feel like playing dota with 1k ping
[17:37] <werder> szu: what's crashing? applications? or whole desktop? or is the computer freezing?
[17:37] <Penguincsc> I need help with configuring TWinView on an nVidia Geforce 210
[17:37] <jasonbourne> Kanerix: ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.2.2kmprq
[17:38] <mzcl-mn> resno: you weren't even able to log into your x were you?
[17:38] <juicy> hi, I was wondering how I could install ubuntu on my USB and boot from it (not as a livesession, but an actual install)
[17:38] <szu> apps, for example smuxi had crashed for like 5-6 times in that conversationn
[17:38] <resno> mzcl-mn: i could only once through recovery, after issuing startx
[17:38] <Kanerix> jasonbourne, excellent. So try this: "modprobe -r ipw2200" then "modprobe ipw2200" and see what dmesg says
[17:38] <olskolirc> I want to add a ppa repository where is the link for my sources.list
[17:38] <zykotick9> juicy: with 12.04 just install with it plugged in and select it as the HD.  be sure grub is installed to the proper USB (and not your HD)!
[17:39] <Penguincsc> I have a Samsung 932B set to 10280x1024 and a 26 inch LCD TV
[17:39] <mzcl-mn> resno: do you know when these issues appeared?
[17:39] <Dan39> when i do apt-get upgrade it keeps saying deluge pacakages have been kept back. i dont see in selections anything on hold, no idea why they are held back
[17:39] <jasonbourne> Kanerix: thanks!! will be back shortly...
[17:39] <Kanerix> I also wonder if it's having trouble because of the wifi firmware. I know the intel drivers are a bit picky about that
[17:39] <firas> How does update-manager update ubuntu??? (i mean does it use sources.list?????)
[17:39] <zykotick9> Dan39: use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:39] <xangua> juicy: like you would do a normal install,  but select the usb
[17:39] <resno> mzcl-mn: ya, following the most recent update for ubuntu 12.01, like friday
[17:39] <werder> olskolirc: "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:somthing/something"
[17:39] <resno> mzcl-mn: err, 12.04
[17:39] <xangua> !usb | also see juicy
[17:39] <Dan39> hmm
[17:39] <Dan39> zykotick9: why would that be needed...
[17:40] <juicy> xangua: thats for installing FROM a usb, not to one
[17:40] <wooy> there is a ppa with latest version, thx you guys
[17:40] <resno> mzcl-mn: in it was a kernel update, thats why i rebooted and found it in disarray
[17:40] <juicy> xangua: and can I have the install files on my usb, and then install to the USB
[17:40] <juicy> ?
[17:40] <mzcl-mn> resno: can you grep some of your syslogs? of that time?
[17:40] <Dan39> The following NEW packages will be installed: indicator-application libappindicator1 libappindicator3-1 libindicator3-7 libindicator7 python-appindicator
[17:40] <zykotick9> Dan39: dist-upgrade can install NEW software or remove required stuff, "upgrade" can't.  teh gui updatemanager does a dist-upgrade equivilant all the time.
[17:40] <olskolirc> oic werder not just a line
[17:40] <Seryth> Is it just me, or are the Ubuntu servers running slow? Just ran dist-upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04, taking absolutely forever.... 40 - 80 kB/s
[17:40] <Dan39> appindicator :|
[17:40] <Dan39> didnt know that was needed by deluge
[17:41] <xangua> juicy: like i told you, again, just do a normal install but in the usb, and also you did not read the factoid that clearly mention Persistent install
[17:41] <rgms> Hi. Is apparmor in enforcing mode by default in Ubuntu/Ubuntu Server?
[17:41] <rizzylt> I am having an issue with Ubuntu 12.04. When my computer suspends after being idle and I go to wake it up I login and everything I had open before is gone and have to restart anything that I was working on before. Any Ideas?
[17:41] <resno> mzcl-mn: yea, you want "syslogs" themselves
[17:41] <Dan39> zykotick9: so when new dependencies are added to a package, the only way to upgrade backage is with dist-upgrade?
[17:41] <zykotick9> Dan39: yup.  "new dependencies"
[17:42] <firas> How does update-manager update ubuntu??? (i mean does it use sources.list?????)
[17:42] <mzcl-mn> resno: do u recall at which time of day in that particular friday...?
[17:42] <zykotick9> firas: yes.  they're all frontends to apt ;)
[17:42] <werder> szu: sorry I don't have any experience with smuxi. try running it from a terminal to see what the error output is.
[17:43] <resno> im not exactly sure, but im sure i might be able to find it. i rebooted afterthe update and found things broken
[17:43] <Dan39> hmm gotta love these segfaults :|
[17:43] <szu> werder: thx, ill just try the windows method;) uninstall and try another one client
[17:43]  * Dan39 grrrss at kubuntu devs
[17:43] <firas> zyjotick9: but when you update ubuntu, it doesn't just install new versions of programs, it also installs new package
[17:43] <zykotick9> !tab > firas
[17:43] <szu> whats the best one on ubuntu?
[17:43] <werder> szu: ok
[17:44] <firas> !tab
[17:44] <sixpack> hey all I am wondering about the difference between the firefox you get from mozilla and the firefox from repositories
[17:44] <zykotick9> firas: the gui does an "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" which will upgrade EVERYTHING possible
[17:44] <resno> mzcl-mn: do i have to unzip old files, or can i view them from terminal?
[17:44] <werder> werder: szu: what exactly does smuxi do?
[17:44] <firas> zyjotick9: ok thnx
[17:45] <zykotick9> lol.  firas you're missing on my nic, use tab
[17:45] <Dan39> he types it all out every time? o_O
[17:45] <Dan39> jeez
[17:46] <szu> werder: lagging as... really lagging, for example i dont see what i write... i need to wait few sec and then he refreshes the command line
[17:46] <daniel2> i only learnt to tab recently !! perils of being an irc newbie
[17:46] <Dan39> i swear getting people to use tab completion in shells is like the 1st big thing, and its pulling teeth to get them to keep using it, and they wonder why their path names they type out dont work
[17:47] <oCean> Dan39: please keep the non-support chatter to a minimum, #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat/discussion
[17:47] <werder> szu: sorry, I meant what is the application supposed to do? I have no knowledge of smuxi
[17:47] <daniel2> although i did know tab completion in the shell
[17:47] <Dan39> oCean: if there was epic amounts of conversation going on im sure i would
[17:47] <szu> werder: smuxi is IRC client
[17:47] <zykotick9> i did just discover irssi will complete path names /etc/apm/resume.d/ (with multitab support) ;)
[17:48] <werder> szu: natch. probably should have realized that.
[17:48] <oCean> Dan39: no, you will always. This channel is just for tech support. Period
[17:48] <Dan39> fine
[17:48] <garodimb> please can anyone help to to connect my 2g mobile to ubuntu to use internet?
[17:48] <werder> szu: xchat is fine, I am using irssi right now. it works well.
[17:48] <szu> ok thanks ill check it out
[17:48] <mzcl-mn> resno: use something like cat /var/log/syslog.1 | grep -i 'yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm' > file_of_my_naming.log (replace y, m, d, h, m) where apropriate
[17:50] <ddn> Hi pals, is there any Lightscribe similar program to print CD labels with laser?
[17:50] <dantix> what is the way to install all needed to get a gnome desktop fully functional without needs to install each package individually?
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> dantix  what function do you lack or need?
[17:51] <mzcl-mn> resno: sorry it is something like cat /var/log/syslog.1 | grep -i 'Jun  1 hh:m' > file_of_bla_blah.log and paste it at paste.ubuntu.com
[17:51] <dantix> I've just installed a new box, but forgott to check X server on installer
[17:51] <llutz> ddn: http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/linux/index.aspx
[17:51] <dantix> so I want to add gnome
[17:52] <dantix> sure it needs X server o surely other packages
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> dantix  try ubuntu-desktop
[17:52] <zykotick9> llutz: i'm guessing they mean for sticker style lables (my interpretation)
[17:52] <dantix> MonkeyDust: thanks
[17:52] <mzcl-mn> resno: point to the nearest time
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> ddn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LightScribe
[17:52] <werder> dantix: if you want only gnome don't install ubuntu-desktop
[17:52] <mzcl-mn> resno: i will paste mine
[17:52] <werder> dantix: that will give you Unity
[17:53] <thehumanerror> Quick question: My Update Manager is not doing anything any more
[17:53] <ddn> ActionParsnip: checking ty
[17:53] <llutz> zykotick9: hmm, why "lightscribe like" then, which is something complete differnt
[17:53] <thehumanerror> no errors, just doesn't report updates
[17:53] <dantix> werder: what is my option if son't want unity?
[17:53] <thehumanerror> it checks repos, as I can see when I press Update
[17:53] <zykotick9> llutz: ? don't ask me!  ;)
[17:53] <xangua> thehumanerror: because your system it's already updatet¿¿
[17:53] <thehumanerror> I wish
[17:53] <garodimb> hi j2shar
[17:53] <KornKageAcer> Is there any guide on how to decode TETRA with rtl-sdr ?
[17:53] <thehumanerror> every time I notice a suspicious lack of updates I apt-get update && upgrade
[17:53] <thehumanerror> but nothing
[17:53] <thehumanerror> I mean, but  it works
[17:54] <thehumanerror> and I get updates, because there was some
[17:54] <dantix> I'll not use unity, I'll have remote access usin NX to the box
[17:54] <thehumanerror> were*
[17:54] <thebwt>  how does one go about compiling libxxx:i386 on a x64 machine?
[17:54] <FloodBot1> thehumanerror: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <werder> dantix: well Ubuntu has GNOME in the repositories now
[17:54] <xangua> !enter | thehumanerror
[17:54] <xangua>  thehumanerror: then could you elaborate¿.....suspicious huh
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: use a pastebin
[17:55] <thehumanerror> okay, so normal use case of Update Manager, it occasionally is supposed to alert you to updates, it hasn't since around the time of latest release
[17:55] <gr33n7007h> Does anybody know how to watch live tv [haupppauge winTV nova-t dvb] through mplayer??
[17:55] <thehumanerror> and I can check for updates with apt-get update
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> dantix  unity is there by default, but you can choose to not use it, select something else in the login menu
[17:55] <thehumanerror> sure
[17:55] <resno> mzcl-mn: actually less is better, becuase the file is now gz'ed :)
[17:56] <werder> dantix: if you are remoting and still want X I would suggest a window manager. Did you do a minimal install?
[17:56] <dantix> werder: yes, just installed ssh
[17:57] <melow01> When compiling & building source code on Ubuntu, where should the program be stored in the directory tree? /usr/bin/ ?
[17:57] <werder> dantix: well then if you want X you should probably install a light windowmanager like fluxbox or openbox or spectrwm. Some might say you shouldn't use X for a remote session but if you wnat it use it.
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> melow01: anywhere in $PATH will do
[17:58] <thehumanerror> Here is the output of my apt-get update
[17:58] <thehumanerror> http://pastebin.com/dADCCcwK
[17:58] <melow01> ActionParsnip, thanks
[17:58] <thehumanerror> it looks completely fine to me
[17:58] <dantix> werder: fine, thanks
[17:58] <thehumanerror> my system updates fine with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: is there any output obout GPG keys or such?
[17:58] <thehumanerror> no
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: ok, run:  sudo apt-get upgrade    what is output?
[17:59] <thehumanerror> that's why I was thinking it was an Update Manager problem
[17:59] <thehumanerror> probably nothing, I upgraded this morning
[17:59] <thehumanerror> whoa, actually, I have a tonne of Mono updates
[17:59] <thehumanerror> which Update Manager doesn't know anything about
[18:00] <thehumanerror> 29 package upgrades
[18:00] <michael__> can somebody please explain to me why the Bash shell does not properly work in Ubuntu and how I can fix it
[18:00] <llutz> !details | michael__
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> michael__: what is the issue?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> michael__: works properly here
[18:00] <jasonbourne> Kanerix: mesg no longer appears on bootup but still shows up in dmesg....
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: get updated there then, may help
[18:01] <michael__> I am using Bash Shell Programming book to learn the bash shell and when I get to using case, POSSIX, or anything from chapter 6 on I get errors and blank responses. There are issues with the Bash Shell in Ubuntu 11.04
[18:02] <sipior> michael__: examples would be useful.
[18:02] <jasonbourne> michael: why not upgrade to 12.04LTS...
[18:02] <llutz> michael__: file a bug report, just make sure it contains a bit more useful info than your lines here
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> michael__: can you pastebin one of your scripts..
[18:02] <Seryth> I just tried to upgrade to 12.04 with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and it downloaded a load of stuff, but at the end it was giving me some errors about usbmuxd?
[18:03] <jasonbourne> Seryth: check /var/log/dmesg file for specifics...
[18:03] <thehumanerror> I've done this before, I don't think it will help, but I will apply the updates
[18:03] <ddn> ActionParsnip: have you tried it?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> ddn: tried what?
[18:03] <Coringa> +i coringa
[18:03] <Coringa> hy
[18:04] <esak> i install ATI VGA . but ubuntu yet not detected it . why ?
[18:04] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Just opened it up, I've got no idea what it's on about...
[18:04] <thehumanerror> I don't know if this is a clue, but the Cog menu in the top right hand corner always says "Updates Available..."
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> esak: did you set the new card as the primary display in BIOS?
[18:04] <jasonbourne> Seryth: who do you mean by: " I've got no idea what it's on about..."
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: well they are coming down already so that doesn't matter now :)
[18:05] <jasonbourne> do you mean you don't know where  to look??
[18:05] <Seryth> jasonbourne: No, I mean the file /var/log/dmesg doesn't make sense to me.
[18:05] <thehumanerror> I know, but I would like to be notified of updates by the Update Manager
[18:05] <thehumanerror> and then easily use it to perform updates
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: maybe getting these latest updates this way will make it ok
[18:05] <esak> no ActionParsnip , how do it ?
[18:06] <thehumanerror> I doubt it, have done plenty of updates
[18:06] <jasonbourne> Seryth: copy it to your editor and search for the error in there...it may reveal more info about what's going on...
[18:06] <michael__> #!/bin/dash
[18:06] <michael__> #: Date		: 2012-05-31
[18:06] <michael__> #: Script	: to_upper, Convert First Character of $1 to Uppercase
[18:06] <michael__> #: Description	: Listing 7-4
[18:06] <michael__> to_upper()
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> esak: it varies wildly, you'll need your manual or just flick around the settings
[18:06] <michael__>     case $1 in
[18:06] <michael__>         [a]*) _UPR=A ;; [b]*) _UPR=B ;; [c]*) _UPR=C ;; [d]*) _UPR=D ;;
[18:06] <FloodBot1> michael__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> michael__: again, PASTEBIN the file...
[18:06] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025435/ jasonbourne thats' the whole file.
[18:06] <ddn> ActionParsnip: lightscribe
[18:06] <thebwt>  how does one go about compiling libxxx:i386 deb packages on a x64 machine?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> ddn: I've not burned any media for years now
[18:07] <llutz> michael__: line 1 (shebang) <michael__> #!/bin/dash    <- why do you blame bash for your faults?
[18:07] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Why not ?
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: I have a fileserver accessibe from the web, so anything I need I can access
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> llutz: nice
[18:07] <esak> ActionParsnip plz say simple. waht do now ?
[18:07] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Which version of ubuntu do you use ?
[18:07] <jasonbourne> Seryth: copy it to your text editor on your machine and do search for "usbmuxd"
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: on fileserver, Precise, on laptop, Quantal
[18:08] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Already done so, came up blank.
[18:08] <jasonbourne> Seryth: oh ok...
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> esak: Reborg and you want to enter setup (F2 and DEL are common keys)
[18:08] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Do you like Unity or do you think it was a bad move by canonical ?
[18:08] <jasonbourne> Seryth: it has to be there....everything is recorded there...
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: its ok. I use about 6 apps so it's fine. I flat between Unity2D and LXDE
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: Unity is also optional, so you don't have to use it
[18:09] <moohamud> moin.
[18:09] <moohamud> i want to start a gui program from the command line/cron job, AND want to specify the particular gnome workspace.
[18:10] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, I might migrate to Linux Mint because I have have to many problems with Ubuntu Linux precise lately
[18:10] <thehumanerror> Update Manager still shows "Updates Available..." even though there are none
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: could try using XFCE, or LXDE. There are lots of desktops to try
[18:10] <jasonbourne> Seryth: checking your pastebin now...
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: click it and click check now, it wil show none
[18:10] <Seryth> jasonbourne: I couldn't see it...
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  i'm currently on ubuntu cinnamon, very neat and smooth
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> michael__: try making the script use bash instead of dash...
[18:11] <esak> ActionParsnip  ok after this. what do after this ?
[18:11] <stones_> Hey guys. I just installed ubuntu and tried loading up a NETFLIX movie via the browser it says I havent met the requirments to watch a movie. I even tried downloading chrome no go. Could someone tell me a fix for this?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> esak: you'll need your manual or use cursors to flick around and how to set the setting
[18:11] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, Yeah I was just over at distrowatch.org and I saw Linux Mint was on the top of the charts it surpassed Ubuntu
[18:11] <michael__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025442/
[18:11] <jondoe> what's the proper package manager to usewhen downloading python libraries on ubuntu 12.04?
[18:11] <llutz> michael__: line 1 (shebang) <michael__> #!/bin/dash    <- why do you blame bash for your faults?
[18:12] <jondoe> when using pip the packages aren't found by python
[18:12] <thehumanerror> I am sure it will show nothing
[18:12] <thehumanerror> :)
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> jondoe: any you like
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  that's just the number of hits in search engines, blogs etc, not the number of installations
[18:12] <michael__> it does not work when the shebang has bash either I changed it to test but it does not work with bash either
[18:12] <jondoe> how come python doesn't find stuff downloaded with pip?
[18:12] <thehumanerror> closed it, it still says "Updates Available..."
[18:12] <stones_> Could someone please help me with getting Netflix working in Ubuntu? Is this possible?
[18:12] <xangua> stones_: nexflix does not support linux
[18:12] <DJones> stones_: The last thing I heard was that netflix wasn't compatible with Linux http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_watch_Netflix_(Watch_Instantly)_in_Linux however there may be some hints on this link that may help
[18:12] <stones_> Damn.
[18:12] <zykotick9> stones_: no netflix for gnu/linux :(  VM windows if you REALLY want it.
[18:13] <stones_> So there is no way to make this work?
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> !find netflix
[18:13] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, It looks like it is very similar to Ubuntu is this true ?
[18:13] <stones_> that is teh sucks.
[18:13] <stones_> I didnt realize that im an idiot
[18:13] <SubCool> could someone help me with something stupid-
[18:13] <stones_> should of remembered it uses silver light
[18:13] <stones_> I thought someone would come up wit some other way of doing it
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  yes, in that, it uses the ubuntu repos, but that's about it
[18:13] <stones_> this laptop is dedicated to my projector
[18:13] <stones_> so its a must...... shit
[18:14] <SubCool> i downloaded too much to the computer, and now i cant get kubuntu to startx - there is a keyboard error suggesting my hard disk is full. I have delted a few things, but it still gives me the same error.. could someone assist?
[18:14] <xangua> !language | stones_
[18:14] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, Is Cinnamon very similiar to Gnome 2 ?
[18:14] <jondoe> SubCool, still got your ubuntu cd/usb stick?
[18:14] <KornKageAcer> any1 know how to solve this problem?: http://pastebin.com/TcYKKkvC  it was running fine 2days ago
[18:14] <stones_> sorry xangua
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  mmmmyes, sort of
[18:14] <SubCool> jondoe, ya - kinda..
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  it looks like gnome2 + gnome-shell
[18:15] <thehumanerror> Okay, just restarted Update Manager and chcked and closed it
[18:15] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, Can you make a desktop launcher from the desktop in Cinnamon by right clicking ?
[18:15] <NielsMkn> hey guys
[18:15] <jondoe> SubCool, you should be able to boot from it, into a recovery console
[18:15] <thehumanerror> the cog menu still shows updates available, but there are none, and I expect that it won't check for updates
[18:15] <SubCool> jondoe, well i have konsole.. im in it now-
[18:15] <jondoe> and there do the command "rm somerandomlargefile.avi"
[18:15] <NielsMkn> How do i make games for ubuntu? I mean is there a good game engine for linux?
[18:15] <SubCool> jondoe, done that already- thats my problem
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  yes, easily
[18:15] <jondoe> NielsMkn, Love is pretty cool and easy
[18:16] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, First become professional at C++ programming
[18:16] <jondoe> SubCool, what happens?
[18:16] <jondoe> ,
[18:16] <NielsMkn> can't I use java?
[18:16] <basus> does anyone know what commands the Ubuntu network applet runs behind-the-scenes?
[18:16] <SubCool> jondoe, same error-
[18:16] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, Yes you can
[18:16] <jondoe> SubCool, try run df
[18:16] <SubCool> let me see if my remote ssh will let me see the error
[18:16] <davi> fotal
[18:16] <davi> dsa
[18:16] <jondoe> linux usuallly doesn't mind having 0 bytes of free harddrive
[18:17] <davi> jes
[18:17] <SubCool> jondoe, has always screwed me..
[18:17] <jondoe> it might be something else, do less +G /var/log/syslog
[18:17] <jondoe> +G is start from bottom
[18:17] <NielsMkn> Quantum_Ion, so how do I do it? I mean is there a game engine which supports coding in java?
[18:17] <SubCool> jondoe, after my rm largefile.rpm - i still have 100% use
[18:17] <NielsMkn> jondoe, I have to learn lua for that it seems. :(
[18:17] <jasonbourne> Seryth: you still here??
[18:17] <jondoe> NielsMkn, Lua is super easy
[18:17] <Seryth> jasonbourne: I am
[18:18] <davi> ?
[18:18] <davi> what
[18:18] <jondoe> SubCool, could be because the file is in use
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> basus: ps -ef | grep net     may show you
[18:18] <jondoe> is that possible?
[18:18] <oCean> davi: do you have a support question?
[18:18] <jondoe> remove moar stuff
[18:18] <jasonbourne> Seryth: I checked the log also but can't find any reference to that usbmuxd either....sorry....
[18:18] <davi> no
[18:18] <davi> ican speak
[18:18] <davi> english
[18:18] <oCean> davi: this channel is for support only, /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[18:18] <jondoe> apt-get autoclean removes all the cache
[18:18] <jasonbourne> Seryth: system otherwise working ok??
[18:19] <Jordan_U> michael__: Try asking for help in #bash, but please when you do don't assume that what you're seeing is a bug in bash. Even though that example may come from a book I would say that it's not very well written from at least a clarity standpoint and the bug may well be in the script itself.
[18:19] <davi> blo
[18:19] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Yeah, system is fine, but it's still on 11.10...
[18:19] <SubCool> jondoe - i've removed more stuff... lol...
[18:19] <jasonbourne> Seryth: wouldn't worry about it too much...unless your on a network not your own...
[18:19] <basus> ActionParsnip: to be more precise, I want to know what happens I use it to connect to a network
[18:19] <NielsMkn> jondoe, hmm. Is it useful for other things as well?
[18:19] <SubCool> and i've cleared the cache and autoremove programs..
[18:19] <NielsMkn> I mean where else can I use lua?
[18:20] <jondoe> SubCool, still 100%?
[18:20] <jasonbourne> Seryth: I.e.:  at work or public network
[18:20] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Nope, my own network
[18:20] <basus> ActionParsnip: so there's a wired network entry it sees called "Auto eth0" and I want to know what it does when I select that network
[18:20] <jondoe> NielsMkn, hmm primarily games, most large moddable games use lua for writing modules
[18:20] <jondoe> such as WoW and what not
[18:20] <NielsMkn> oh nice :)
[18:20] <SubCool> jondoe, ya- thats the thing. im deleting more but- nothigns happening. i think my trash is full or something
[18:20] <jondoe> but java is fine if you know that better
[18:20] <jasonbourne> Seryth: try googling it and see what you get...
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> isnt the DOOM engine opensource, these days?
[18:21] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, You check out the Clanlib http://clanlib.org/wiki/Main_Page and the SDL projects http://www.libsdl.org, they are C/C++ SDK used to make games/game engines on Linux
[18:21] <jondoe> SubCool, ah, lemme check where the cache is
[18:21] <SubCool> jondoe, can u make that less commond more page view and less scrolling line view?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> basus: it will probably use ifup and dhclient3
[18:21] <jondoe> do rm -rf /home/you/.local/share/Trash/*
[18:21] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Aite.
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> jondoe: why use force?
[18:22] <jondoe> isn't that needed for folders or something
[18:22] <jondoe> probably not necessary
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> jondoe: just -r is needed for folders.
[18:22] <jasonbourne> Seryth: can you post here the exact error message if it's small??
[18:22] <jondoe> SubCool, page up and down does pages
[18:22] <jondoe> and arrows do lines
[18:23] <nimrod10_> any of you experiencing choppy flash player in 12.04 ?
[18:23] <nimrod10_> it happened after the last update
[18:23] <jondoe> SubCool, also have a look at /var/log/boot.log
[18:23] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025466/ jasonbourne that was the first 404 error.
[18:23] <xangua> nimrod10_: flash sucks in linux in general
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> nimrod10_: great flash here, what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[18:23] <jasonbourne> ok
[18:24] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, You can use the gimp for graphics and audacity to make sounds and lmms to make videogame music on Ubuntu Linux
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> nimrod10_: use a pastebin to host the output
[18:24] <nimrod10_> ActionParsnip, whas going to ask just that :)
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: lmms is lots of fun
[18:24] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Yeah I am actually making a beat on lmms right now
[18:24] <bubbly> is the hardy version of enlightement stand-alone
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> nimrod10_: someting like http://pastie.org will do :)
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> bubbly: hardy isn't supported on the desktop now
[18:25] <NielsMkn> wow thanks a ton Quantum_Ion! :D
[18:25] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, np
[18:25] <jasonbourne> Seryth: I would submit that to Ubuntu support and see if it's a known issue or if they have a workaround for it...looks specific to Ubuntu...
[18:25] <nimrod10_> ActionParsnip, flash issues pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025469/
[18:26] <Seryth> jasonbourne: I was sort of hoping that this *would* be Ubuntu support :S
[18:26] <jasonbourne> Seryth: it is but I think this is something they need to look at...
[18:26] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, I forgot to mention you can make your 3D characters/animations in Blender http://www.blender.org it's a little easier to use nowadays
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> nimrod10_: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer     then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin. This will give 64bit flash for your 64bit OS
[18:27] <Seryth> jasonbourne: So you mean submit it on the forums?
[18:27] <jasonbourne> Seryth: yes....
[18:27] <nimrod10_> ActionParsnip, trying it now ...
[18:27] <Seryth> Arite.
[18:27] <NielsMkn> ah yeah I have been using blender for time now, its awesome :)
[18:27] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Doint it now :)
[18:27] <Seryth> NielsMkn: You're a Blenderhead too?!
[18:27] <jasonbourne> Seryth: or searh the boards for that specific error message...
[18:28] <Seryth> NielsMkn: Do you know about #blender and #blenderchat ?
[18:28] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Yeah
[18:28] <jasonbourne> Seryth: I don't think it's your machine...
[18:28] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Good good
[18:28] <Seryth> :)
[18:28] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, You should start a project outlining these tools on Ubuntu Linux to make videogames, Clanlib/SDL, Blender, LMMS, GIMP and Audacity
[18:28] <NielsMkn> Seryth, sort of. I have been to #blender a lot of times :D
[18:29] <Seryth> NielsMkn: Aah :)
[18:29] <designbybeck> I have a Ubuntu install on a 8GB USBflash drive
[18:30] <NielsMkn> Quantum_Ion, I'm not sure what you mean. Do you want me to host a project on an svn hosting service or something?
[18:30] <designbybeck> it was working perfectly, but then i tried to Remastersys on it to make an ISO from it, But now it boots into safegraphics mode and will not let me do anything
[18:30] <designbybeck> Any Ideas?
[18:30] <rgms> Hi. Is apparmor in enforcing mode by default in Ubuntu/Ubuntu Server?
[18:30] <nimrod10_> ActionParsnip flash player is  still choppy :(
[18:30] <Quantum_Ion> NielsMkn, Or write a book using all those to create videogames on Ubuntu Linux I am sure you would sell a lot of copies
[18:31] <Seryth> jasonbourne: I'm running the command again with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing"
[18:31] <nimrod10_> rgms,  run apparmor_status
[18:31] <jondoe> SubCool, how's it going?
[18:31] <SubCool> jondoe, ok - i've deleted plenty.... it still says there is 100% in use
[18:31] <rgms> actually I'm not running ubuntu on any system at the moment
[18:31] <jondoe> hmm
[18:32] <jondoe> have you checked df?
[18:32] <SubCool> jondoe, has to be the trash file
[18:32] <SubCool> ya
[18:32] <nimrod10_> any of you experiencing choppy flash player in 12.04 ?
[18:32] <jondoe> but rm shouldn't move things to the trash
[18:32] <jondoe> but empty the trash
[18:32] <jasonbourne> Seryth: hopefully that'll take care of it...
[18:32] <SubCool> where is trash?
[18:32] <jondoe> with rm -r ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[18:32] <17WAAI872> hi ther
[18:32] <Seryth> jasonbourne: It seems to be
[18:32] <jondoe> /home/youruser/.local/share/Trash/
[18:32] <17WAAI872> i've got a problem on sound
[18:33] <jasonbourne> Seryth: have to work graveyard shift...good luck...have to catch some zzz's before then...
[18:33] <SubCool> jondoe is there a way to update the space etc? - df says the same
[18:33] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Aah sure, what's your job? Have a nice sleep, and thanks for the help! :)
[18:33] <gfarmer> join #ubuntu-beginners
[18:33] <jondoe> hmmm
[18:33] <jondoe> very weird
[18:33] <jasonbourne> glorified Unix system babysitter
[18:33] <17WAAI872> yesterday I decreased all the sounds, i dont remember what did i do else. today sound is full but no sense
[18:33] <NielsMkn> Quantum_Ion, if I ever did wrote a book, I might give it for free. Anything for ubuntu :D
[18:33] <jasonbourne> Seryth: glorified Unix system babysitter
[18:34] <gfarmer> join #ubuntu
[18:34] <jasonbourne> Seryth: this is my last week of nites...
[18:34] <Seryth> jasonbourne: Aha! Well, grab some sleep :P
[18:34] <SubCool> gfarmer, your already here
[18:34] <jondoe> SubCool, you could try rebooting the box once, unless you've already done that
[18:34] <gfarmer> join #ubuntu-beginners
[18:34] <jasonbourne> Seryth: later...
[18:34] <Seryth> gfarmer: It's /join, not just join
[18:34] <Seryth> jasonbourne: o/ bye!
[18:34] <gfarmer> yeah, thanks
[18:34] <SubCool> jondoe, donet that, but i can do it again since i've deteled a bunhc of stuff
[18:34] <jondoe> because some files could be locked by the system
[18:34] <gfarmer> obviously need to be in ubuntu-beginners
[18:34] <amelia_> Hi there.. I've upgraded my mum's netbook from 11.10 to 12.04 and now she's intermittently getting a system error - asks to report the problem. but says the Precise dev cycle has finished, so to contact tech support :/ any idea how I can find out what this error is? I'd hate to have to wipe and go back to 11.10
[18:35] <SubCool> jondoe, well, i was doing a system update when the reboot did this, so maybe something is locked?
[18:35] <gfarmer> \join #ubuntu-beginners
[18:35] <jondoe> yeah, it should unlock on reboot
[18:35] <SubCool> ill reboot again now.. but--- :/
[18:35] <jondoe> did it die during update?
[18:35] <17WAAI872> jondoe: how can i cure my sound problem?
[18:35] <SubCool> maybe booting into usb will do something - ugh..
[18:35] <SubCool> jondoe, honestly- idk.... my mother dumb bf touched it..
[18:36] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, hmm
[18:36] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, is there a volume control somewhere in the bar on the top?
[18:36] <17WAAI872> jondoe: can u ?
[18:36] <jondoe> SubCool, definitely his fault
[18:36] <17WAAI872> jondoe: i use kubuntu
[18:37] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, maybe bottom right corner
[18:37] <jondoe> a speaker icon
[18:37] <17WAAI872> jondoe:  yes there are
[18:37] <jondoe> click that
[18:37] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 knows how to set higher priority for graphics to a game running under wine?
[18:37] <17WAAI872> jondoe: I maximized everything
[18:37] <schultza> when running apt-get... i keep getting a line that looks like the following: The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required... how do i remove those packages if they are no longer required?
[18:38] <17WAAI872> jondoe:  but no sound is heard
[18:38] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, is there a checkbox that is checked on the same place?
[18:38] <xangua> schultza: if you read the complete message you'll know
[18:39] <SubCool> jondoe, ya- same thing..
[18:39] <17WAAI872> jondoe:  there are lots of things as usual, i know how to control. but the problem is beyond
[18:39]  * schultza smacks head. doh!
[18:39] <schultza> xangua, thanks.
[18:39] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, hmm
[18:39] <17WAAI872> jondoe:  do u know how to control over termnial?
[18:39] <jondoe> yeah
[18:40] <jondoe> SubCool, that's srsly weird
[18:40] <nimrod10_> how do i get an older version of adobe-flashplugin ?
[18:40] <nimrod10_> the current one gives choppy playback
[18:40] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, I could probably help you over ssh
[18:41] <SubCool> jondoe, everyting seems to be odd to me.. ugh-
[18:41] <17WAAI872> jondoe: how?
[18:41] <SubCool> jondoe, im going to reboot into a usbLive if i can find one.. hold on-
[18:41] <17WAAI872> jondoe: im new to linux, try to understand me :/
[18:41] <SubCool> i was just lableing them.
[18:42] <gr33n7007h> Does anybody know how to watch live tv [haupppauge winTV nova-t dvb] through mplayer??
[18:43] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, yeah
[18:43] <xangua> nimrod10_: well all adobe flashplugin give choppy playback....did you try disabling hardware support¿
[18:43] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, gimme two seconds
[18:43] <llutz> gr33n7007h: look at http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/MPlayer  create a channels.conf and enjoy
[18:43] <gr33n7007h> llutz, cheers I'll take a look
[18:43] <17WAAI872> jondoe: ok
[18:44] <nimrod10_> xangua, how do I do that ?
[18:45] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, try sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:45] <jondoe> after each other
[18:45] <Kinter> how do you tag a file as executable?
[18:45] <gfarmer> I'm trying to access a file on my iphone, but when I connect via usb, I'm not sure how it's being mounted
[18:45] <gfarmer> how can I check?
[18:45] <xangua> nimrod10_: in any flash video, make it full screen and select Properties (for some reason you need to make it full screen or you can't select it) and disable flash hardware acceleration
[18:46] <jondoe> Kinter, chmod +x file
[18:46] <Kinter> thanks
[18:46] <17WAAI872> jondoe: i update everytime, but not upgrade
[18:46] <xangua> gfarmer: what ubuntu version¿ what iOS version¿
[18:46] <amelia_> Anyone?
[18:46] <17WAAI872> jondoe:  already upgraded. nothing installed
[18:47] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, ok
[18:47] <Poesghost> if I was going to dual boot Arch and Ubuntu, which should I install first?
[18:47] <gr33n7007h> llutz, Thanks. That's is as exactly what I was looking for ;)
[18:48] <gfarmer> xangua 11.10 and 4.2.1 I think
[18:48] <moohamud> anyone familiar with devilspie?  http://codepad.org/uHyKo1Fw
[18:48] <moohamud> my window isn't being loaded.
[18:48] <gfarmer> It mounts and I can access it in nautilus, but it's not in /media or anything
[18:49] <nimrod10_> xangua, flash player is such an annoying piece of lock-in software ! trying your suggestion now ...
[18:51] <nimrod10_> xangua, do I need to reboot, I've taken the setting off and restarted firefox but nothing changed
[18:51] <xangua> gfarmer: ooh so there is no problem mounting¿¿ just hit Control+L in nautilus to show the location
[18:51] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, I don't know how to solve your problem :(
[18:51] <xangua> nimrod10_: then flash sucks period
[18:51] <17WAAI872> jondoe:  dddd
[18:52] <gfarmer> xangua: afc://d78e38441be....
[18:52] <gfarmer> xangua: does that sound right?
[18:52] <nimrod10_> xangua, the only problem is that waaaaaay to many of the major sites  use it (youtube, infoq ....)
[18:53] <Partyschaum> sorry, i've asked this question two hours ago but my irc client lacks a proper history… i've upgraded my virtualbox to 4.1.16 and i'm running ubuntu 10.04 in one of those boxes. how do i upgrade the virtualbox guest additions in this box to the latest version?
[18:56] <NielsMkn> later ppl
[18:57] <nimrod10_> Partyschaum, download and install them. (http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.16/)
[18:58] <Sargun-Work> Is there a way to create a wildcard apparmor policy that applies to everything
[18:58] <guest67898> when using virtual terminal, a message '[sdb] asking for drive cache data failed assuming drive cache: write through' overwrites stuff on the screen
[18:59] <Qasaur> Hey guys
[18:59] <17WAAI872> nimrod10: u know how to reset sound settings on kubuntu?
[18:59] <Qasaur> I was wondering
[18:59] <Qasaur> is it possible to use full-disk encryption
[18:59] <Qasaur> and instead of using a passphrase
[18:59] <Qasaur> can one use a private key?
[18:59] <jondoe> Qasaur, yeah, using the alternative install cd
[18:59] <jondoe> not sure about the keyfile thing
[19:00] <17WAAI872> jondoe: u know how to reset sound setts?
[19:00] <jondoe> 17WAAI872, try "ps a | grep pulseaudio"
[19:00] <jondoe> and the pulse<tab>
[19:01] <17WAAI872> jondoe: tried. nothing happened
[19:01] <Partyschaum> nimrod10_: oh, now i'm ashamed of my question… that's to easy :-) thx!
[19:01] <jondoe> hmm maybe try apt-get install pulseaudio
[19:01] <17WAAI872> jondoe: i mean nothing happened on termnial
[19:02] <jondoe> yeah
[19:02] <jondoe> try apt-get install pulseaudio it might fix your audio
[19:02] <xangua> nimrod10_: well i recently readh that only 23% of the web uses flash, and for youtube there is the hmtl5 player
[19:02] <17WAAI872> jondoe: how to run pulseaudio
[19:02] <jondoe> pulseaudio -D
[19:03] <roasted> Was there a recent system update that changed the look of the Unity bar? I just updated and rebooted and now my bar and dash are super dark (which looks great) and the Unity dash button is bright blue. I was just curious if anybody else saw that too.
[19:04] <spicyWith> I'm having some trouble attaching EBS volumes to an ubuntu instance in ec2. Anyone here have experience with that?
[19:05] <Gill`> Hiya, anyone able to give me a hand with an error I'm getting in 12.04?
[19:05] <17WAAI872> jondoe: daemon startup failed
[19:05] <xangua> roasted: sound like you changed your wallpaper for something blue
[19:05] <wassup> hi, does anyone wich commando to use if I want to move any file extension (eg *.avi) located in a disk to a folder in same disk?
[19:05] <roasted> xangua: nah, wallpaper didn't change for the last... 3 weeks?
[19:06] <SubCool> jondoe, ok, i am in with a LIveUSB - and the disc is basically full- and when i try to delete stuff, it does not allow me to- atleast with righclick, i havent tried CLI yet.. but since i have gui- is there anything i should go about doing? any certain a mount of space i should have cleared? I clearely have to severely restart these machines, but im not estup to do such a thing just yet.
[19:07] <SneakySnake> Hi
[19:07] <spicyWith> does ubuntu not allow devices being attached to /dev/sdh1?
[19:08] <majuscule> I have a fresh ubuntu install, and am getting the error "current input timing is not supported by the monitor display"
[19:08] <SneakySnake> Can I start ubuntu live cd with fbdev driver? The ati driver crashes due to a nasty hardware error that has to do with direct rendering
[19:08] <majuscule> I believe I need to change this in grub but I can't change the boot line b/c i'm blind
[19:09] <Gill`> I've got a problem with a 'system error' that comes up, but doesn't allow me to submit a bug report - I don't know much about the logs but it looks like an Xorg issue, with quite a few entries in syslog and auth.log -- anyone able to take a look?
[19:09] <bakarat> is it normal that my ubuntu system does not have an admin group? (it is not in /etc/group)
[19:09] <llutz> bakarat: it has sudo instead
[19:10] <sergeantcupcake> Hey can anyone recommend a new DE for my machine? Currently it is running the default 12.04 environment, but i believe that this environment is drastically slowing my system down.
[19:10] <bakarat> llutz, is there any reason it is still mentioned in /etc/sudoers then?
[19:10] <llutz> bakarat: idk, i saw that lately at my lubuntu-12.04. no idea what/why they changed that
[19:11] <bakarat> llutz, you mean the admin group removal is new? (it does exist in my 11.10 system, just not on my 12.04 one)
[19:12] <AngrySpam98> Hello.
[19:12] <zykotick9> llutz: debian has always used sudo group by default in, so it's one less thing for ubuntu to change.
[19:12] <AngrySpam98> Im having a problem with Ubuntu Software centre.
[19:12] <sergeantcupcake> Can anyone recommend a ubuntu-like linux derivative that is clean and stylish like ubuntu but runs on very little system resources?
[19:12] <llutz> bakarat: yes, afaik this change into sudo-group came with 12.04. i guess they move to sudo-group and have admin for historical reasons
[19:12] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: Hi! maybe i can help. what seems to be the problem?
[19:13] <llutz> zykotick9: ubuntu != debian
[19:13] <zykotick9> llutz: oh i know...
[19:13] <bakarat> llutz, k, but as I understand it, people in the "sudo" group do not have to enter their password again to use sudo?
[19:13] <AngrySpam98> sergeantcupcakeI cant install things.  I click the button labeled "install" but nothing happens, even after like 20 minutes of waiting!
[19:13] <llutz> zykotick9: they went this way, no idea why they NOW start to change back
[19:13] <AngrySpam98> sergeantcupcake: I cant install things.  I click the button labeled "install" but nothing happens, even after like 20 minutes of waiting!
[19:13] <zykotick9> bakarat: sudo has a timeout
[19:14] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: Strange. Roll creepy twilight zone music while is check to see if i can find the source of the problem.
[19:14] <zykotick9> bakarat: and every time sudo is used the timer resets (it's not counted from the first use, but the most recent).  it's 20 or 25 minutes by default.
[19:15] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: are you prompted for a password before you attempt to install anything?
[19:15] <bakarat> zykotick9, ah great, from what I gathered the timeout only applied to those in the admin group, the sudo group was exempt from entering it at all. I'm glad to be wrong :)
[19:15] <AngrySpam98> seargeantcupcakes:  I used to be, when installing worked.  But right now, no.
[19:15] <orated1> Hello! What is the minimum RAM requirement to run Ubuntu with GNOME/Unity? Is it 512MB RAM or 256MB RAM?
[19:16] <zykotick9> !requirements | orated1
[19:16] <AngrySpam98> sergeantcupcake:  I used to be, when installing worked.  But right now, no.
[19:16] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: Im afraid that all i can tell you is that you might be lacking sufficient priveleges to install anything
[19:17] <sergeantcupcake> ubottu: Thanks!
[19:17] <orated1> Thanks zykotick9
[19:17] <sergeantcupcake> ubottu: Ok but its nice to have you around anyway
[19:17] <sergeantcupcake> ubottu: :)
[19:17] <AngrySpam98> sergeantcupcake: meaning? i could install things yesterday, and i was logged onn with same profile...
[19:18] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: Try rebooting and logging in as a different user
[19:18] <AngrySpam98> sergeantcupcake: i dont have a different user :P
[19:19] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: Im afraid Im stuck bro. Sorry :( :(
[19:19] <SubCool> jondoe, u around?
[19:20] <AngrySpam98> sergeantcupcake: well, thanks anyway for trying :D
[19:20] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: You could try to go the difficult rout and install with synaptic package manager
[19:20] <AngrySpam98> eww
[19:20] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: hate it
[19:20] <Eszett> OK so
[19:20] <AngrySpam98> I have a different technique...brb(maybe)
[19:20] <Eszett> I have wine app, I minimise it
[19:20] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: Go for it!
[19:20] <Eszett> now I have no idea how to bring it back
[19:20] <wooy> hi, i am little bit confused with packages (in general) and installing from source (./configure; make; make install). Which is better? And when im installing from source, what steps should i do to make it right (i.e. copy it to "program files", add it to path etc.).
[19:20] <jondoe> SubCool, yeah
[19:20] <Eszett> since wine isn't showing on unity bar at side
[19:21] <sergeantcupcake> AngrySpam98: And may the Force be with you
[19:21] <Eszett> any ideas? tried wine taskmgr, was no help
[19:21] <llutz> !compile | wooy
[19:21] <llutz> !checkinstall | wooy
[19:22] <wooy> cool thx
[19:22] <sergeantcupcake> Does anyone know if a forum exists for Jollicloud?
[19:23] <SubCool> jondoe, - cool. hey- so ya.. so far no luck with the computer and the LiveUSB. But- im back into konsole with the original computer, because the LIveUSB wouldnt let me delete stuff- SO- how do i locate my USB drive and copy something?
[19:23] <SubCool> jondoe, i know how to do a cp- but.. im more concerned with moutning the usb drive
[19:24] <jondoe> SubCool, hmm
[19:24] <sergeantcupcake> mwahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:29] <sergeantcupcake> So
[19:29] <sergeantcupcake> Anybody need some ubuntu help?
[19:29] <LjL> if they do i'm sure they'll ask
[19:30] <sergeantcupcake> LjL: im just making sure they know im here.
[19:30] <Jonii> Does ubuntu have some dedicated server for checking if Ubuntu Software Center downloads are tampered with?
[19:31] <sergeantcupcake> Jonii: They are all verified before being put online, so i dont believe such a server exists
[19:31] <LjL> Jonii: there is no dedicated server, but there is a key on your computer to verify that they were signed by the Ubuntu packagers
[19:31] <Jonii> sergeantcupcake: so if anyone has access to modify contents of software center or run malicious code on that server, that's it for Ubuntu?
[19:32] <sergeantcupcake> Jonii: I think so. If something goes wrong at the high levels ur in trouble
[19:33] <Jonii> Now that Windows Update was fooled, I begun thinking if the same thing could happen to Ubuntu, and the weak link of Ubuntu is the Software Center. One place for all the software, so if anything at all goes wrong there, Ubuntu is gone for good
[19:33] <sergeantcupcake> Is setting up my a small business to run entirely on ubuntu a good idea? Would such a setup be too complicated?
[19:34] <sergeantcupcake> Jonii: I hope they have solid security measures
[19:34] <jondoe> SubCool, hey, sorry, lost connection
[19:34] <jondoe> figured out how to mount?
[19:34] <SubCool> its ok, im doing like 5 things
[19:34] <LjL> Jonii: they were talking about this in #ubuntu-offtopic a bit earlier, you might want to join there (also considering it's not strictly speaking support)
[19:34] <SubCool> i know how to mount- just not sure about the usb
[19:34] <jondoe> yeah i'm not quite sure either
[19:35] <majuscule> I can't load grub, how can I change the monitor input timing?
[19:35] <SubCool> jondoe, there is nothing in my media directory
[19:35] <reisio> majuscule: if you can't load grub, you have bigger problems
[19:36] <jondoe> I think it's something like mount /dev/usbsomething
[19:36] <jondoe> try ls /dev/usb*
[19:36] <jondoe> and then try mount one of them
[19:37] <Zentaur> hi
[19:38] <reisio> Zentaur: hi
[19:39] <Zentaur> i need to execute the following two commands just in one. "cd /opt/upspilot" "./monitor"
[19:39] <Zentaur> is it possible?
[19:39] <Zentaur> i'm looking for a way to create a launcher
[19:39] <llutz> Zentaur: /opt/upspilot/monitor
[19:39] <nino> hello
[19:39] <Zentaur> ok thanks!
[19:40] <nino> have somebody dead space?
[19:40] <OerHeks> Zentaur, cd /opt/upspilot && ./monitor
[19:40] <Gunslinger2> hello
[19:41] <nino> have you got dead space
[19:41] <nino> ?
[19:41] <oCean> nino: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:41] <OerHeks> nino is that an ubuntu support question?
[19:41] <freedomrun> can I do a cronjob to send me my public ip by mail on my ubuntu server .. need that only for ssh on ip change, or the only solution is dyndns?
[19:42] <nino> what is a support question?
[19:43] <oCean> nino: this channel is for technical ubuntu issues, not chat
[19:43] <nimrod10_> xangua, i know but try to play trailers for example without flash , i can't be done on youtube
[19:43] <Zentaur> mm it doesn't work
[19:43] <nino> ok sorry
[19:43] <nino> this is yes a support question
[19:43] <nimrod10_> xangua, do you have the previous deb of adobe-flashplugin ?
[19:43] <Zentaur> i'm trying to create a launcher in alacarte
[19:44] <Aleminio> Hey guys, which linux system is the best for personal usage?
[19:44] <nino> how can i do a privet channel
[19:44] <nino> ?
[19:44] <oCean> !best | Aleminio
[19:44] <Sargun-Work> Is there any way to create apparmor policies with Default Allow?
[19:44] <oCean> nino: please /join #freenode for support on using this IRC network
[19:45] <nino> oCean you are chating
[19:45] <nino> plo
[19:46] <Aleminio> Yea oCean, i'm aware of that, but what would you suggest for a first time linux installation? I have knowledge of the commands since i've been using linux servers for a long time, but never installed one on my own computer
[19:46] <oCean> Aleminio: this channel is very specifically for Ubuntu support. You could go /join #ubuntu-offtopic and try your question there
[19:46] <aeon-ltd> Aleminio: how much experience and free time do you have?
[19:47] <xangua> Aleminio: and yet you ask that kind of question on the Ubuntu Support channel expercting.....
[19:47] <Aleminio> did not notice it's a support channel, just saw the channel name :)
[19:47] <aeon-ltd> Aleminio: also your specs aswell
[19:47] <Aleminio> will search for the off-topic one. thx.
[19:48] <Gunslinger2> id say if you wanted something that just works use ubuntu, if you want to build it from the ground up use arch linux
[19:48] <SubCool> can someone help me mount my Usb Stick to back up some info?
[19:48] <reisio> SubCool: plug it in
[19:48] <freedomrun> nvm I found the way .. thnx anyway
[19:48] <SubCool> reisio, ya-.. cli-
[19:48] <reisio> SubCool: plug it in, see if it's automatically mounted by running 'mount'
[19:49] <reisio> SubCool: if not you can manually mount it, always with 'mount'
[19:49] <cailypso> hy which distribution is by default more secure ubuntu or archlinux?
[19:49] <xangua> !ot | cailypso
[19:49] <LjL> cailypso: a better question for ##linux, i suppose, or #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:49] <SubCool> reisio, i dont see it listed, and thats what i needed help with.. mounting it-
[19:49] <LordH3lment> OMFG why is ubuntu.com down?
[19:50] <cailypso> sry
[19:50] <SubCool> reisio, im seriously out of practice
[19:50] <reisio> cailypso: well, between those two it would have to be Ubuntu
[19:50] <LordH3lment> did the web server have problems? and ubuntu is dead like Slakware???
[19:50] <reisio> cailypso: but I wouldn't really choose either for such a use case
[19:50] <kim868> Just a quick question. I've scp'd some WAL files from one server to anotq
[19:50] <reisio> SubCool: does /sbin/blkid list it?
[19:50] <cailypso> reisio which would you?
[19:50] <reisio> kimico: that isn't a question
[19:50] <LjL> LordH3lment: calm down, and please avoid that sort of acronyms here. websites sometimes go down, no tragedy ;)
[19:50] <reisio> cailypso: what is your security concern?
[19:51] <Gunslinger2> i have a xubuntu support question and seeing as how #xubuntu is dead'er 'n doornail i thought i would ask here....
[19:51] <LordH3lment> LjL: yea, but when this happened to slackware a month ago. Everyone said it was dead
[19:51] <cailypso> by default high security configuration nothing more or less
[19:51] <cailypso> reisio
[19:51] <SubCool> reisio, lol, that didnt work out overy well. i cat filename'd and got Putty 50 times
[19:51] <LjL> LordH3lment: help.ubuntu.com is up, for instance, so apparently it's just one server having issues
[19:52] <reisio> SubCool: you what?
[19:52] <reisio> cailypso: yeah but even comparatively insecure Linux distros are pretty secure
[19:52] <reisio> cailypso: do you have a specific concern, or just want to be as paranoid as possible?
[19:52] <LordH3lment> LjL: OMG this is just like when slackware's web site went down. there mirror sites were up.
[19:52] <netmk> OMG OMG!
[19:52] <SubCool> reisio, i typed cat /sbin/blkid - and got PuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTYPuTTY
[19:52] <LordH3lment> that is it Ubuntu could be in trouble
[19:52] <LjL> LordH3lment: oh surprise!
[19:53] <reisio> SubCool: interesting
[19:53] <reisio> SubCool: how about 'sudo blkid'?
[19:53] <xangua> LordH3lment: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[19:53] <LjL> LordH3lment: well let's move this to #ubuntu-offtopic anyway since it's not support
[19:53] <SubCool> reisio, got info that way..
[19:53] <SubCool> let me pull up pastbin
[19:53] <LordH3lment> LjL: is ok, i am posting a big blog post about it
[19:53] <LjL> LordH3lment: have fun
[19:53] <Gunslinger2> having a semi little issue with my remote xubuntu setup.  I currently can ssh & rdp via (rdp (from win7) to xubuntu (xrdp/vino)) but I can't seem to find anything on how to change the resolution of the session.  In the .rdp file on windows the resolution is set @ 1440x900, however the screen or session from the xubuntu machine is 1024x768.  is there any way to force the resolution to 1440x900?
[19:54] <reisio> SubCool: it'll probably be the last one, but there are ways to be more certain
[19:54] <SubCool> reisio, no- ur right,. i see it..
[19:54] <reisio> SubCool: what TYPE does it say?
[19:54] <SubCool> /dev/sdc1: LABEL="USB20FD" UUID="B614-82EB" TYPE="vfat"
[19:55] <reisio> SubCool: okay, so: mkdir /mnt/usb; mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/usb
[19:55] <SubCool> well, that makes sense.. ok
[19:55] <reisio> :D
[19:57] <betinho> hi, my program needs to save some information in the comments (property) of a png image. However when save it with Gimp, i can't to see with lib GraphicsMagick, or eog. So there isn't a standard to save metadata in PNG files?
[19:58] <Gunslinger2> anyone have any ideas?
[19:59] <sirriffsalot> Hey!  I plug it in and it should work, and is working on a laptop right next to me, but not on this computer.. any ideas?:(
[19:59] <reisio> betinho: probably more to do with nobody caring about PNG metadata
[19:59] <SubCool> reisio, why am i getting permission denied when trying to copy a directory to my usb?
[19:59] <systest> anyone else having in issue with dnsmasq ignoring search domains in 12.04?
[20:00] <reisio> SubCool: because you don't have permission
[20:00] <SubCool> ....
[20:00] <reisio> SubCool: sudo chown -R youruser:youruser /mnt/usb
[20:00] <reisio> SubCool: or cp with sudo
[20:00] <SubCool> its probably because im remoted it
[20:00] <reisio> or you can remount it with options to give your user permissions
[20:00] <reisio> SubCool: not likely
[20:01] <asahi> how can I tell if I have libraries such as autoconf automake libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev
[20:01] <sirriffsalot> Anyone?
[20:01] <llutz> asahi: apt-cache policy autoconf automake libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev
[20:01] <guntbert> any info what is the matter with ubuntu.com?
[20:01] <reisio> asahi: dpkg -l | egrep -i 'foo|bar'
[20:01] <reisio> sirriffsalot: I'm a one
[20:02] <reisio> guntbert: what do you want at ubuntu.com?
[20:02] <SubCool> reisio, i dont think that chown hurt me... -- it just changed permission to my entire USB
[20:02] <reisio> SubCool: naturally
[20:02] <cailypso> as paranoid as possible :)
[20:02] <SubCool> lol - still denied
[20:02] <reisio> cailypso: mmm
[20:02] <reisio> cailypso: probably a waste of time
[20:02] <asahi> thanks
[20:02] <reisio> cailypso: there are distros just for that, though
[20:02] <SubCool> cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/usb/08fec7159275a47101b7a1e517fefe55.jpg': Permission denied
[20:02] <robert__> I have installed/tested ssmtp (to my gmail account) on my 10.04.4 server and it works fine. How do I set this as the default mail "provider"? I wish to email server status reports/notifications. My normal method of server admin is Webmin. Thanks.
[20:02] <reisio> cailypso: nobody uses them because they're a waste of time
[20:02] <Gunslinger2> doesnt the nsa have a linux distro?
[20:03] <guntbert> reisio: sorry, wrong channel, I truly intended to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:03] <reisio> guntbert: seems no topic to me
[20:03] <SubCool> lol -wait nvm... most of the drive states not permitted
[20:03] <SubCool> lol.. ugh
[20:04] <cailypso> i go over to offtopic
[20:04] <zxiest> Hey :-)
[20:05] <zxiest> Do you guys know where the shortcuts in the launcher are located on disk?
[20:06] <Lorra> Hi everyone! Today I accidentally started deleting my Downloads folder from GNOME with shift+del and by the time I stopped it most of the stuff was gone and some of it was not something I can download again. I learnt of this scalpel piece of software. Is there a way to tell it I want it to recover only files which were deleted today?
[20:06] <trism> zxiest: most are in /usr/share/applications/ although they aren't specific to the launcher, the ones used are specified by the com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites gsettings key
[20:06] <reisio> Lorra: you might be able to get some of it back, depending on your FS, if you haven't written much new data over it (stop using the disk)
[20:07] <Lorra> reisio, with which software?
[20:07] <SubCool> ok, - im beginning to get frustratied
[20:07] <reisio> Lorra: depends on the FS
[20:07] <Jordan_U> Lorra: No.
[20:07] <Lorra> reisio, ext4
[20:07] <reisio> Lorra: you could try extundelete
[20:08] <reisio> Lorra: or if that doesn't work, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovery_Is_Possible
[20:08] <zxiest> trism wonderful! :-) ... How can I get it to run with sudo? should I precede the "Exec" path with sudo ?
[20:09] <guest2> How can I work with dialogs too big for my monitor
[20:09] <trism> zxiest: you'd want gksudo, so you get a password dialog
[20:09] <zxiest> trism cool.. Thanks :-) will try it out :-)
[20:10] <trism> zxiest: if you are going to edit the .desktop file, might be better to copy it to ~/.local/share/applications/ first so it doesn't get overwritten when the app is updated
[20:11] <mralberto> Is there a flag I can use with ls to print a list of absolute (or relative to the current dir) filenames (recursing directories) for use with cat/xargs/etc (like windows' "dir /b") rather than the directory path header followed by relative filenames?
[20:12] <escott> mralberto, the tool is "find"
[20:12] <zxiest> trism cool :-) ... I tried apt-get install gksudo .. no luck.. How can I use it?
[20:12] <BlueChaos> hey guys
[20:12] <escott> mralberto, find . -exec command {} \;
[20:12] <mralberto> escott, I was looking at "find" but I was hoping there was something less complicated.
[20:12] <mralberto> is that recursive by default?
[20:12] <BlueChaos> I wish to install desktop ubuntu 11.10 on ubuntu 12.04 who can help me  ?
[20:13] <Somelauw> quick question. since my computer is completely broken,
[20:13] <trism> zxiest: the package is gksu, but it is probably already installed
[20:13] <BlueChaos> with one tutorial
[20:13] <Somelauw> Can I remove the livecd while running a live session?
[20:13] <escott> mralberto, find is not that complicated. it just has a lot of options :). and yes it is recursive
[20:13] <guntbert> !upgrade | BlueChaos
[20:13] <Somelauw> To burn another disk?
[20:13] <Somelauw> Can I remove the livecd while running an ubuntu live session to burn another disk?
[20:13] <mralberto> escott, I'll try that.   There are many other options though, including GNOME3 fallback which is a lot like GNOME2's old shell, and XFCE which is also a lot like GNOME2.
[20:14] <BlueChaos> guntbert
[20:14] <BlueChaos> I have already installed ubuntu 12.04
[20:14] <BlueChaos> but I wish last desktop from ubuntu 11.10
[20:15] <BlueChaos> is more simple
[20:15] <BlueChaos> for using
[20:15] <BlueChaos> how can i do that ?
[20:15] <xangua> BlueChaos: both use unity by default
[20:15] <xangua> unity+gnome
[20:16] <mralberto> (I still think there should be an ls flag like "dir /b" though :P)
[20:16] <zxiest> trism :-) ...  Thanks! Working :-)
[20:16] <Seryth> Hey. I ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and it's just finished; now what do I do? Do I have to restart for the changes to take effect?
[20:16] <bakarat> is there a way to set a default mask when a file is created? (specifically via samba)
[20:16] <Larry_the_Dalek> Hi all.  Anyone have an eta on when ubuntu.com will be available again?
[20:16] <bakarat> umask can substract rights, can you add them?
[20:17] <bakarat> i need rw-rw- by default, but atm it's rw-r--
[20:17] <BlueChaos> allright I understand what u say but tell me how I do to replace currently desktop interface 12.04 with 11.10 tell me one tutorial please
[20:17] <OerHeks> Seryth, not untill the message-dialog says so
[20:17] <Jordan_U> Seryth: Do you understand that "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" does *not* upgrade you to a new release of Ubuntu?
[20:17] <fasta> If I use the fancy GUI to install the latest fglrx drivers it comes up with some lame excuse for not working. Is this a known issue?
[20:17] <escott> bakarat, chmod g+w filename
[20:17] <SubCool> ok..  could someone help me- and NOT kill my stuff?
[20:17] <fasta> Also: why did the maintainer release something which doesn't work?
[20:17] <llutz> bakarat: you can set creation-masks in smb-conf, read the documentation
[20:18] <Seryth> Jordan_U: Oh. How do I upgrade to 12.04 then? *sigh* (Oh, and keep my home dir)
[20:18] <BlueChaos> xangua have a couple of minutes free to talk about this problem in private ?
[20:18] <Jordan_U> BlueChaos: It's not possilble. Try XFCE and see if you like that.
[20:18] <escott> bakarat, oh i see. i think you want to look at the suid variable on the group filed
[20:18] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Seryth
[20:18] <escott> bakarat, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid#setuid_and_setgid_on_directories
[20:18] <BlueChaos> jordan_u now I'am search
[20:18] <Seryth> Jordan_U: Ty.
[20:18] <xangua> BlueChaos: i do not see or recieve privates
[20:18] <Jordan_U> Seryth: You're welcome.
[20:18] <fasta> BlueChaos: you can run Mint too.
[20:18] <bakarat> llutz, by god, I tried. every variation I could google but when I test it (admittedly from another linux machine using smb://), it does NOT work
[20:19] <fasta> BlueChaos: they basically try to create the Gnome2 experience, but with new components.
[20:19] <fasta> BlueChaos: I suggest you use KDE4.8.3, though.
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> fasta  i'm using that in ubuntu, cinnamon
[20:19] <Larry_the_Dalek> Looks like it's back up.  Have a good one all!
[20:20] <fasta> MonkeyDust: oh, great.
[20:20] <llutz> bakarat: then file a bug-report against samba, yours seem to be broken
[20:20] <fasta> As long as everyone can use what they like
[20:20] <BlueChaos> I'am not so advanced on linux like u suppose  I'am starter (fasta) evan my englesh is so bad I don`t explain u correctly what i'am tryng to do ..so soz for that
[20:21] <bakarat> is there no way to control the default creation mask of a file?
[20:21] <nvictor> i don't get grep sometimes
[20:21] <fasta> BlueChaos: google cinnamon install Ubuntu and follow instructions, I think.
[20:21] <fasta> BlueChaos: or ask MonkeyDust
[20:21] <SwedeMike> bakarat: man umask
[20:21] <nvictor> why would grep "Jun 3" file.log fail?
[20:21] <BlueChaos> one guy
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> BlueChaos  it's with a ppa, in ubuntu
[20:21] <llutz> bakarat: since you talk about samba: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html#CREATEMASK
[20:22] <BlueChaos> make that happen installed on he's acount (my personal linux) interface destop 11.04
[20:22] <bakarat> SwedeMike, it only allows substraction of permissions, not addition (unless I'm missing something?)
[20:22] <SwedeMike> bakarat: why would you be allowed to set more permissions than your user has already?
[20:23] <escott> bakarat, setgid
[20:23] <KarateKip3> Hallow! I am trying to open a port here, but it just won't work. I tried ufw, and "sudo ufw status" says that the port is open, but nmap says that the port is closed. Even after I type "sudo ufw disable", nmap still says that the port is closed. I already rebooted and checked again, but still closed. How do I open a port?
[20:23] <BlueChaos> MonkeyDust,
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> BlueChaos
[20:23] <BlueChaos> can I gave u pm ?
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> no
[20:23] <bakarat> escott, this allows new files/dirs to inherit the group, but it does not inherit group permissions for files it seems?
[20:23] <llutz> KarateKip3: is there something listening on that port?
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> !pm| BlueChaos
[20:24] <KarateKip3> yes, but i have another port which has nothing listening on it. Same problem.
[20:25] <gkaklas_> KarateKip3: maybe you have to configure your modem (?)
[20:25] <KarateKip3> llutz ^^
[20:25] <KarateKip3> gkaklas: i already configured the modem
[20:25] <escott> bakarat, put setuid or setgid on the folder and any new files will get the folders permission set instead of umask. its usually used when one wants to have a folder where every new file is owned by one of their alternate groups so instead of being username:username it might be username:accounting
[20:26] <japro> uhm, if something wants like libxyz.so.4 what exactely decides which version it wants?
[20:26] <japro> so if there is say also libxyz.so.5
[20:26] <BlueChaos> fasta
[20:26] <BlueChaos> this is interface what u put me to looking for ?
[20:27] <Pliind> Hello all, im on a intel i7 and got 16GB of RAM, is 32bit ubuntu 12.04 the only way to go?
[20:27] <BlueChaos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTKBwqvCYrU
[20:27] <llutz> Pliind: use amd64
[20:27] <escott> bakarat, the other thing im noting is that this is samba. so if this file is on windows, then your permissions are meaningless and you just need to change your mount options
[20:28] <Pliind> llutz: I did mount amd64 on a usb-drive but all i got was a black screen with colored stripes across my screen
[20:28] <escott> !nomodeset | Pliind
[20:28] <samer> Guys, i cant watch youtube , firebug show this message "HTTP "Content-Type" of "video/mp4""
[20:29] <escott> samer, you might try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:30] <samer> escott, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[20:31] <samer> escott, i hope it will work :) installing :)
[20:31] <mc_mikeehbwoi>  hiya
[20:32] <palko7> does anyone know why i cant download te windows installer from the ubunutu website?
[20:32] <mc_mikeehbwoi> how do i set up fbdev for xorg?
[20:32] <mc_mikeehbwoi> palko7: im sure theres a windows installer in the .iso