[05:24] <reka> Darth_Pengo: hmm
[05:24] <Loki_VA> im on dial up.. getting the new iso very slowly :P
[05:24] <bigfoot1> can anyone help me surf a particular website? I'm browsing a blog and was wondering where the link is to view/post comments. Can anyone help?
[05:24] <cazabam> bigfoot1: not sure - probably best asking on the pilot-link mailing list
[05:25] <cazabam> Loki_VA: Ah, I see.
[05:25] <Drako60> well explain why or tell me how to fix it
[05:26] <Fabian> pfp, damn, that's goint really fast!!!!
[05:26] <mindspin> sorry Drako, I've never seen that problem, not even understanding it never
[05:26] <Fabian> 3m left
[05:27] <cianci> How can I give myself permissions to write to folders?
[05:27] <reka> Darth_Pengo: edit->current profile
[05:27] <Drako60> mindspin, the file packages.gz apt-get is trying to make bzip2 extract it
[05:27] <Darth_Pengo> and?
[05:27] <mindspin> what do want to do?
[05:27] <reka> what font is it using?
[05:27] <pfp> Fabian: cool.. btw, i looked up Solothurn on the web, looks very beautiful :)
[05:27] <glad1> are ubuntu faster then windows
[05:28] <bigfoot1> cazabam, Nermal; sorry. I checked again and everything's find with JPilot and categories. I just had to scroll to see the other categories. Oops. 8-()
[05:28] <glad1> are ubuntu faster then windows xp
[05:28] <Phreakazoid> glad1, not really lol but it isn't any slower
[05:28] <Darth_Pengo> some lohit gujarti or something
[05:28] <Choubaka> glad1: depends.
[05:28] <Drako60> i want to make apt-get use gzip for .gz files
[05:28] <reka> dark: :-) that's your prob.
[05:28] <Darth_Pengo> hmm
[05:28] <reka> ahh!
[05:28] <Darth_Pengo> i fixed it
[05:28] <Choubaka> You can customise ubuntu a lot
[05:28] <Darth_Pengo> ty
[05:28] <Loki_VA> i find linux runs much faster than windows for the same tasks
[05:28] <glad1> i konw
[05:28] <Phreakazoid> Loki_VA, depends on the task
[05:28] <mindspin> I 'm not sure if that works at all
[05:28] <cianci> does anyone know how to give permissoins to write to a folder?
[05:28] <reka> Darth_Pengo: sure.
[05:29] <bigfoot1> can anyone help me with an internet question? I'm viewing a blog. And I'd like to know where the link is to view/post comments.
[05:29] <Phreakazoid> Loki_VA, somethings linux does much better, but others it doesn't
[05:29] <Choubaka> chii: chmod +r dir/
[05:29] <Choubaka> er, +w
[05:29] <Loki_VA> Phreakazoid, somewhat true
[05:29] <Choubaka> and cianci
[05:29] <Choubaka> :
[05:29] <Darth_Pengo> now
[05:29] <bigfoot1> i can give the url of the blog if you can help. Thank you.
[05:29] <Darth_Pengo> i am gonna go back to learn C
[05:29] <cianci> yes?
[05:29] <Choubaka> chii: with chmod.
[05:29] <mindspin> apt-get is for debian packages  or am I wrong?
[05:29] <Choubaka> or you can right-click in nautilus and give permissions from there.
[05:30] <Choubaka> mindspin: ubuntu uses debian packages
[05:30] <Loki_VA> sweet, my evo bakup worked fine :P
[05:30] <mindspin> is gz a common format for debian packages?
[05:30] <toresbe> cthulfuego: may I msg you about the bot?
[05:30] <Fabian> pfp, solothurn is beautiful! It's supposed to be the most beautiful barock city in switzerland. It isn't actually a barock city, but who cares???
[05:30] <Drako60> synaptic does the same thing
[05:30] <Choubaka> mindspin: uh. no.
[05:30] <cazabam> bigfoot1: no problem - I learned a bit about how pilot-link works from the mailing list, anyway :)
[05:30] <Choubaka> debian packages are .deb
[05:30] <Fabian> pfp, done!!!
[05:30] <Drako60> packages.gz is a list of available packages which apt-get uses to know what your talking about and where to get it when you do an apt-get install
[05:31] <cazabam> Loki_VA cool, glad it's all worked out so nice for ya!
[05:31] <Choubaka> mindspin: gz files are just any fles packaged with gzip :p
[05:31] <bigfoot1> does anyone have 2 cents of wisdom to spare?
[05:31] <housetier> LokeDK, sorry for answering so late, this shows where to find the python plugin (python.so): http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=xchat&version=hoary&arch=i386
[05:31] <devil> hello everyone
[05:31] <bigfoot1> or does anyone have any problems with blogs, specifically viewing/leaving comments?
[05:31] <Drako60> Choubaka, yes but how do i get apt-get to use gz instead of bzip, some how my mime types can gotten confused and its trying to use bzip2 for gz files
[05:32] <Choubaka> Drako60: haa? :>
[05:32] <Nermal> bigfoot1, depends on the blog
[05:32] <devil> anyone can answer me a simple question?
[05:32] <Choubaka> devil: ask.
[05:32] <Nermal> devil, ask ffs .. *stab*
[05:32] <mindspin> choubaka, I've no trouble with that....
[05:32] <devil> thank you
[05:32] <Nermal> :)
[05:32] <devil> it's about install
[05:33] <Nermal> get to the point man!
[05:33] <Drako60> Choubaka, when i do apt-get update it pipes the packages.gz file it downloads to bzip2 and gives an error
[05:33] <bigfoot1> nermal, if i give you the url, can you check it out and tell me if there's something wrong with the blog or with our browsers? I've already contacted the webamster, and did what he said (enable Javascript, enable popups), but still no link for comments.
[05:33] <Nermal> else I'll spend all my energy and patience getting the problem out of you rather than solving it
[05:33] <Choubaka> Drako60: sounds weird.
[05:33] <Choubaka> what's the error?
[05:33] <Drako60> Choubaka, it is
[05:33] <Nermal> bigfoot1, aye
[05:33] <Fabian> pfp, I'm ready for the ultimate!
[05:34] <devil> when i install ubuntu 5.04 where i can find the custom install?
[05:34] <catfox> are there any tools to download packages for hoary on windows or another linux distro, to install them on a systerm with no internet connection?
[05:34] <Nermal> bigfoot1, yeah I can comment.
[05:34] <pfp> Fabian: alright :)
[05:34] <Nermal> hit the comments link, new window appears
[05:34] <Nermal> scroll to bottom and there is a form
[05:34] <Drako60> Choubaka, it says somethign to the effect of (stdin) file is not a bzip2 file
[05:34] <bigfoot1> where's the comment link?
[05:35] <devil> catfox: i think wget and d4x is good
[05:35] <cdc> hi people  i have been using Debian Sarge for the past one year and i am really impressed with it but today i got 10 sets of Ubuntu X86 CDS i am just thinking of installing it
[05:35] <Fabian> pfp, cu in two minutes in windows!
[05:35] <cazabam> devil: there isn't one :) not specifically, anyway. The basic install will give you a functional machine. After that, it's into synaptic and pick what you want.
[05:35] <cdc> i just want to know whether Ubuntu would be better than Debian Sarge
[05:35] <Choubaka> Drako60: right.
[05:35] <bigfoot1> i can't find it, Nermal. I might be blind.
[05:35] <Nermal> bigfoot1, though it does appear to be a drivel christian site
[05:35] <Choubaka> Drako60: I don't know how to fix that though :/
[05:35] <catfox> devil, wget could be good. but how will i tell it to get certain dependancies?
[05:35] <reka> catfox: you can use a normal browser to download the .deb packages and then install them manually.  that's going to be messy. though if you have a program that has a lot of dependencies.
[05:35] <tunes> hi,,I found a package to enable supermount (  automount/umount)  and wondering why its not the default now, ,,,,,and if its being considered to be part of ubuntu in the future ? ;-))
[05:35] <Nermal> it says "comments (29)"
[05:35] <Nermal> hit that
[05:35] <bigfoot1> nermal, where exactly is the link? i did a search on the page for "comment." found nothing relevant.
[05:35] <cdc> infact i have been a KDE user but for the past few days i ve switched to Gnome . is Ubuntu better than Debian Sarge?
[05:35] <devil> i see but what about 5.10?
[05:36] <mindspin> cdc its a question of taste and purpose...
[05:36] <devil> sorry i don't know about certai mean?
[05:36] <cazabam> devil: 5.10 (breezy) is not ready yet - see the topic  :)
[05:36] <likkashot> whats the program for partitions  gparted?
[05:36] <catfox> does the hoary cd have everything i need to be able to install python, zope, plone, postgres from sources? (compilers libs, etc
[05:36] <cdc> mindspin, i like Debian and Ubuntu is based on Debian and i am a developer i use my system for Development so in that case what do you say?
[05:36] <devil> but i think if you install software,try apt-get?
[05:36] <reka> likkashot: yes, that's one.
[05:37] <Loki_VA> is the clearlooks theme in the apt repos for ubuntu?
[05:37] <devil> i think so
[05:37] <cazabam> catfox: it has build-essential, so yes, although all those things are available prebuilt
[05:37] <Loki_VA> or do i have to do it manually?
[05:37] <mindspin> I have kubuntu on my notebook and sarge on my severs
[05:37] <mindspin> servers
[05:37] <nishart> hello!!!
[05:37] <catfox> cazabam, cool ta. i need to install all of these into /usr/local for some things
[05:37] <cdc> mindspin, so what do you say . I ve got Ubuntu 5.0.4 CDS so tell me what would it be like ? :-)
[05:37] <mindspin> (k)ubuntu is pretty good for the desktop IMHO
[05:38] <nishart> hay algun espaol para ayudarme???
[05:38] <mindspin> get you a live cd  and have atry
[05:38] <cdc> mindspin, i am running Gnome 2.8 but Ubuntu has got 2.10 and thats a major advantage
[05:38] <Nermal> nishart, join #ubuntu-es
[05:38] <Fabian> pfp, re
[05:38] <cdc> mindspin, tried it it was good
[05:38] <pfp> Fabian: aight
[05:38] <mindspin> so change it if you like it
[05:39] <cdc> mindspin,later if i want to install KDE in ubuntu can i do it ?
[05:39] <devil> but i don't want to install the openoffice and gnome-media,my hardisk is small,can you tell me how to do?
[05:39] <likkashot> if I have 2 OS's and 1 is winblows and the other is ubuntu , and I want to acces the same failes on both , Ive been told to do a fat32 partition is that right
[05:39] <Fabian> hey, actually.... swap does not contain any data, does it???
[05:39] <LokeDK> housetier, oh.. thx
[05:39] <Fabian> pfp
[05:39] <mindspin> yes, it should work, I#m not using gnome, onlxykubuntu
[05:39] <pfp> Fabian: Fabian no, you can just wipe it away
[05:40] <cdc> anyone using KDE on Ubuntu here?
[05:40] <Fabian> pfp, then I don't have to format the other partition!
[05:40] <pfp> it contains data but not information :)
[05:40] <Phreakazoid> cdc, look in the topic?
[05:40] <Phreakazoid> :P
[05:40] <pfp> Fabian: umm, what other?
[05:40] <mindspin> cdc try #kubuntu
[05:40] <Fabian> pfp, now it looks like that: 1 ntfs, 2 ext, 3 swap, 4 ubuntu
[05:41] <cdc> mindspin, how about the number of repositories for apt-get
[05:41] <Fabian> pfp, and it will look like that afterwards: 1 ntfs, 2 ext, 3 lfs, 4 ubuntu, 5 swap
[05:41] <pfp> Fabian: hmm i would but lfs on 3 and swap under ext if that's possible
[05:41] <mindspin> I didn't move from ubuntu to kubuntu but it should work by apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <pfp> Fabian: right
[05:41] <Fabian> pfp, this means, I just move the swap partittion and put lfs instead
[05:42] <mindspin> I dunno, buts really a lot and I founf everything I needed by acivating universe
[05:42] <Fabian> pfp, so I try to move the ubuntu one savely to the end of the disk. maybe I can just boot then again with Grub!
[05:42] <likkashot> so much waiste 200gigs free
[05:43] <Nermal> likkashot, pr0n
[05:43] <pfp> Fabian: ah.. cool
[05:43] <likkashot> hahaha
[05:43] <Fabian> I'll give it a try
[05:43] <Fabian> this's gonna take some time
[05:43] <pfp> Fabian: you should be able to boot... if the partition number changes, you need to help grub at boot-time
[05:43] <pfp> Fabian: i have to leave in 10 minutes... :/
[05:43] <likkashot> hwy when I installed I didnt make a swap partition
[05:43] <mindspin> cpc the main practical difference in my eyes between sarge and ubuntu is the sudo part
[05:44] <likkashot> is that bad
[05:44] <pfp> Fabian: in grub prompt, you need to go to the editor (press E or something), then change two lines:
[05:44] <Fabian> pfp, no problem! maybe I don't need you anymore! The partition number's not gonna change, if I can move it!
[05:45] <Fabian> pfp, cu!
[05:45] <pfp> Fabian: :)
[05:45] <Loki_VA> where can i find the clear looks them for ubuntu?
[05:45] <Loki_VA> *theme
[05:48] <reka> Loki_VA: it's installed by default
[05:48] <likkashot> hey when I installed I didnt make a swap partition
[05:48] <likkashot> is that bad
[05:48] <Loki_VA> im on 4.10
[05:48] <bigfoot1> hello, how come some websites take a long long long time to load for me, but to another person in this chatroom it's not slow?
[05:48] <Loki_VA> its not there
[05:48] <bigfoot1> i even tried coralcdn.org and it's still slow!
[05:49] <reka> Loki_VA: http://clearlooks.sourceforge.net/screenshots/
[05:49] <reka> Loki_VA: ever heard of a search engine?
[05:49] <Nermal> mmm.. clearlooks
[05:49] <bigfoot1> is the slowness of some websites the fault of my browser, my ISP, or what?
[05:49] <Nermal> reka, use http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com in future :)
[05:49] <Loki_VA> whats that?
[05:49] <Loki_VA> lol yeah i couldnt seem to find it..
[05:49] <reka> Nermal: i was going to...
[05:49] <Loki_VA> i was looking for a .deb
[05:50] <reka> Loki_VA: try apt-cache search gnome themes
[05:50] <Nermal> right.. hometime sooon D:
[05:50] <bkinman> So... how do i add an item to the applications menu?
[05:50] <reka> LokeDK: otherwise you'll need to install manually
[05:50] <Loki_VA> reka, i did but it didnt show up hence why i asked
[05:50] <Loki_VA> i did mention that
[05:51] <bkinman> I have tried opening location applications:/// in nautilus, but no luck
[05:51] <reka> righto
[05:51] <reka> bkinman: what are you trying to do?
[05:52] <bkinman> Add an item to my gnome applications menu.
[05:52] <bigfoot1> how can i pinpoint the source of the slowness of particular websites loading?
[05:52] <likkashot> their server
[05:52] <likkashot> ping it
[05:52] <reka> bkinman: can't be done that way: http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/
[05:53] <bigfoot1> I want to know if it's my browser, or my ISP. I know it can't be the website itself, because another person in this chatroom said the website did non load up slowly.
[05:53] <bigfoot1> likkashot, how do we ping servers?
[05:53] <mindspin> ping
[05:53] <likkashot> what the sites adress
[05:53] <mindspin> the nameserver of your ISP
[05:54] <cdc> is Ubuntu good for experienced people too?
[05:54] <bkinman> reka, is that my only option?
[05:54] <bigfoot1> how do i know my ISP's nameserver?
[05:54] <bigfoot1> likkashot, do you mean the website address?
[05:54] <optik> bigfoot1:  is it on their website?
[05:54] <Loki_VA> ubuntu uses metacity yeah?
[05:54] <mindspin> whats in your /etc/resolv.conf
[05:54] <cdc> is Ubuntu good for experienced people too?
[05:54] <bigfoot1> optik,  is what on the website?
[05:54] <optik> the nameserver
[05:55] <optik> are you usin a router?
[05:55] <bkinman> also, how do i get an address bar in nautilus, anyone?
[05:55] <reka> bkinman: yep,  gnome doesn't have a builtin editor afaik, and i don't think you can just add launchers that way.
[05:55] <mindspin> cdc it is
[05:55] <bigfoot1> um, i don't think so. it's not a technical/computer-ish website, so i doubt it has that technical info.
[05:55] <reka> bkinman: it's in preferences
[05:55] <reka> behaviour tab
[05:55] <bigfoot1> mindspin, you talking to me? (about resolv.conf)?
[05:55] <mindspin> yep
[05:55] <bigfoot1> optik, no router.
[05:56] <cdc> hey mindspin one question i trid Ubuntu Live CD but it was slow :-(
[05:56] <mindspin> how much ram?
[05:56] <bkinman> reka, why isnt smeg in a repository?
[05:56] <mindspin> which cd-rom speed?
[05:56] <cdc> 256 MB SD RAM 1.7 GHZ and 52X Combo Drive
[05:56] <mindspin> 512 MB would make it run quicker...
[05:57] <cdc> mindspin, but if i install it will it be fast enough like Sarge?
[05:57] <reka> bkinman: it didn't get in in time i guess. (only security updates from now on iirc)
[05:57] <cdc> coz Sarge is too good
[05:57] <mindspin> I think so
[05:57] <bkinman> reka,  this really makes me sad. I cant believe that is the only option
[05:57] <mindspin> but If you are lucky with sarge, stay with sarge
[05:57] <cspan> it's pretty much the same
[05:57] <cspan> just with X.org
[05:58] <bigfoot1> mindspin, fetchmail and postfix are in my resolv.conf. hmmmm. i wonder what they're for?
[05:58] <mindspin> mom
[05:58] <bigfoot1> were they there when i attempted to use gmail as fileserver?
[05:58] <reka> bkinman: i don't know what else to tell you.  hopefully breezy/the next gnome release will have a builtin editor.
[05:59] <bigfoot1> Yikes, I've pinged a website, and it's still going!!!
[05:59] <bigfoot1> now for 4 minutes.
[05:59] <bkinman> why does applications:// in nautilus work with most distros, but not this one?
[05:59] <osity> does anyone know ho to use the raid configuration during ubuntu install?
[06:00] <mindspin> bigfoot dunno why, I only got the mameserver IP here
[06:00] <bigfoot1> you mean you got the nameserver ip in your resolv.conf?
[06:00] <mindspin> sure
[06:00] <steron> bigbootay, me, too
[06:00] <chocoIate> hi
[06:00] <mindspin> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:00] <mindspin> that#s german telecom
[06:01] <cdc> cspan, Sarge does not have Gnome 2.10 and Ubuntu has :-) and Ubuntu has got the latest kernel and morever after reading all the real good reviews i think i ve to try it out
[06:01] <osity> i find it hard to beleive that noone has used the raid option during the partitioning of ubuntu
[06:01] <bigfoot1> mindspin, how do i know my nameserver?
[06:01] <mindspin> cdc, you got some space on your harddisk?
[06:01] <graabein> can anyone help me with the alexandria gnome-app and ruby libs?
[06:01] <Falke> hi. when i have an ppp0 aktive, do i have configure my firefox for getting in the www ?
[06:01] <Falke> or does it that automatically
[06:01] <cdc> mindspin, no extra space either i ve to remove Sarge and then try Ubuntu
[06:01] <mindspin> bigfoot how are you connected?
[06:02] <cspan> cdc, i said *pretty much the same*, not the exact same thing ;)
[06:02] <cdc> mindspin, does Ubuntu have alsa support in it ?
[06:02] <cspan> i think so
[06:02] <cspan> it does have alsa support
[06:02] <steron> Falke, only if you want to use an http-proxy
[06:02] <mindspin> installing ubuntu additionally would be my suggestion
[06:02] <cdc> mindspin, but i am just worried about one thing the speed Sarge runs is good will Ubuntu run at the same speed ?
[06:02] <steron> Falke, usually not
[06:02] <bigfoot1> mindspin, pppoe.
[06:02] <cspan> cdc, i'd say it will
[06:03] <cdc> mindspin, but i dont have that much space
[06:03] <mindspin> cdc will you kill me if its slower?
[06:03] <osity> so noone knows software raid in here???
[06:03] <cdc> cspan, ok and later if  i want KDE to be installed can i install it using apt-get?
[06:03] <chocoIate> i like sarge better, but i'm a noob i guess my vote dont count :P
 i read about it
[06:03] <b3ar1n0> osity?
 but i havent tried
[06:03] <chocoIate> i have tried both by the way
[06:03] <cspan> cdc, yeas
[06:03] <cspan> if you instal hoary
[06:04] <cspan> all you have to do
[06:04] <cdc> cspan, thats what i am gonna install
[06:04] <cspan> is install the kubuntu-desktop
[06:04] <cspan> package
[06:04] <cspan> just, cdc, remember to enable the universe and multiverse repositories
[06:04] <osity> b3ar1n0: what?
[06:05] <chocoIate> why are the  packages for ubuntu not compatible with debian if ubuntu is debian based :o
[06:05] <cdc> cspan, while installing ?
[06:05] <Falke> i have adsl and an alcatel modem. i have it so far, that i can make a ppp0 connection, but when its active, nothing happens. i cant go in the internet, cant get my mail. this is from  IFCONFIG:   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/105
[06:05] <Codeman7> Hello
[06:05] <cspan> cdc, no, afterwards
[06:05] <osity> there is an option to configure raid during the partitioning in ubuntu.....no one has seen it?
[06:05] <Codeman7> I just installed 5.04 on my laptop, and every minute or so the pointer/insertion point freezes up for a solid second, and then returns so I can use it... it's like the whole system stops for a second.
[06:06] <chocoIate> Falke, when i had that problem i had to add my nameservers address in this file --->> /etc/resolv.conf and it worked
[06:07] <Falke> i made that
[06:07] <julo> hi
[06:07] <Falke> there are 2 resolv.conf
[06:07] <mindspin> bigfoot try downloading something with wget from commandline and you will see the download rate
[06:07] <mindspin> thats just the poormans solutuion
[06:07] <julo> i just upgraded breezy, and now i can't use shift or meta anymore
[06:07] <steron> Falke, show me the output of "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[06:07] <julo> is anyone also experiencing it
[06:07] <Falke> 1 inf /etc/resolv.con and 1 in /etc/ppp/resolv.conf
[06:07] <julo> (question mark)
[06:07] <julo> :)
[06:08] <steron> Falke, just in /etc/
[06:08] <mindspin> julo read the topic?
[06:08] <Falke> hmm.
[06:08] <bigfoot1> mindspin, thank you for your assistance.
[06:08] <Drako60> why why why is apt using bzip
[06:08] <julo> mindspin: well, i didn't read it before coming here :)
[06:08] <Falke> in the /etc/ should be my nameserver and i have added 2
[06:08] <steron> Falke, what?
[06:08] <mindspin> its also mentioned on the homepage
[06:09] <Falke> but when ubuntu startup, it always deletes the 2 and adds <IP_ADDRESS> instead
[06:09] <julo> mindspin: too bad i never visit it
[06:09] <mindspin> bleeding edge is what it says, bleeding
[06:09] <Falke> thats the ip from my router
[06:09] <julo> mindspin: anyway, i'm not complaining, just asking
[06:09] <steron> Falke, in /etc/resolv.conf should be only the line "nameserver x.x.x.x"
[06:09] <Falke> yes
[06:09] <Falke> i have that
[06:09] <Falke> 2 times
[06:09] <mindspin> And I cannot help you sorry
[06:09] <theine> Falke, 2?
[06:09] <Falke> both nameservers
[06:09] <theine> Drako60, why is that a problem?
[06:09] <jbwiv> gentlemen: a package that libsdl1.2-dev depends on, xlibmesa-glu-dev, has inexplicably disappears from the Ubuntu Hoary apt repositories.  This prevents me from being able to install libsdl1.2-dev, which depends on this.  Fortunately, I had already installed this package weeks ago on my work Ubuntu machine.  Is there a way to recreate the deb file from this machine. Also, anyone know where the package actually got to?
[06:09] <julo> mindspin: i know what bleeding edge, but i'm just wondering whether it's worth reporting the bug, or if it's a known issue, that's all
[06:09] <mindspin> but reading before installing could spare you a lot of hurt
[06:10] <Drako60> theine, because its downloading .gz for its package list
[06:10] <Falke> <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:10] <theine> Drako60, so?
[06:10] <steron> Falke, You've got an router and you're trying to "dial" out over pppoe?
[06:10] <Falke> a nameserver is a DNS server , or not ?
[06:10] <Falke> no
[06:10] <mindspin> julo I dunno, but avisit at ubuntuforum could help maybe
[06:10] <steron> Falke, normally this couldn't work
[06:10] <julo> mindspin: ok, i'll try there
[06:10] <JDigital> I think it is
[06:10] <steron> nameserver == dns-server, jep
[06:10] <Drako60> theine, when i do apt-get update the packages.gz file it downloads is piped through stdin to bzip2 and bzip2 plainly states its not a bz2 file and errors out
[06:11] <JDigital> DNS = Domain Name Server
[06:11] <Falke> so what do i have to do ?
[06:11] <Falke> delete 1 nameserver ?
[06:11] <theine> Drako60, hmm, how come I never had that problem?
[06:11] <steron> Falke, you have to use your eth0-interface and turn the dhcp-server in your route on
[06:11] <mindspin> falke no, that has no effect at all
[06:11] <Drako60> theine, i didn't have this problem untill today
[06:12] <Falke> ok, wait, i will show you what i have done
[06:12] <Falke> 2 min please
[06:12] <theine> Drako60, are you using breezy by the way?
[06:12] <Drako60> theine, no
[06:12] <cary> anyone: i'm wanting to patch my kernel so that certain things will work with my powerbook. i have found what i think is the raw data of the patch but i dont know waht to do with it. any suggestions?
[06:12] <Codeman7> I just installed 5.04 on my laptop, and every minute or so the pointer/insertion point freezes up for a solid second, and then returns so I can use it... it's like the whole system stops for a second.
[06:12] <Drako60> theine, i'm using hoary
[06:13] <theine> Drako60, which repository causes you trouble?
[06:13] <theine> Drako60, all?
[06:13] <Drako60> theine, all
[06:13] <mindspin> cary on my thinkpad disabling acpi helped in that case
[06:13] <mindspin> but this could be a thinkpad issue
[06:14] <Drako60> theine, but its only on the packages.gz the rest are fine, now if i could figure out how to get it to download the packages.bz2 it wouldn't be a problem
[06:14] <steron> Falke, back
[06:14] <cazabam> mindspin: thinkpads (certainly anything before and including T22) have bizarre ACPI related issues. Some seem to work OK, some seem not.. it's weird
[06:14] <theine> Drako60, there are also bzip2 compressed Package lists (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 for instance)
[06:14] <mindspin> Drako sudo apt-get install bz2 ?
[06:14] <cary> mindspin, what? i am trying mostly to get the audio to work correctly. i can Barely hear it. i just dont know what to do with this "patch"
[06:14] <theine> Drako60, ah, you already knew that...
[06:14] <steron> Falke, tell me what you have done
[06:15] <mindspin> cazbam Yep thats true, mine is a600x
[06:15] <Falke> yes, im on it
[06:15] <Falke> i am writing ;)
[06:15] <Falke> 1 min please
[06:15] <theine> Drako60, have you looked in the forums whether there are any other people havng the same problem?
[06:15] <Drako60> mindspin, i've had bz2 from the start or else it wouldn't be giving me errors
[06:15] <jbwiv> to answer my own question, in case anyone's curious, you can use dpkg-repack...
[06:15] <cazabam> mindspin: I had a plain 600, and it was well weird, but my newer T21 seems fine with ACPI
[06:15] <Drako60> theine, not yet
[06:15] <theine> Drako60, I would do that
[06:15] <steron> ok
[06:15] <Falke> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/106
[06:16] <Falke> my modem ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:16] <osity> does anyone in here use ubuntu?
[06:16] <Whistler> i use
[06:16] <mindspin> Drako60 sorry your problem sounds weird
[06:16] <Falke> so whe i type "pptp <IP_ADDRESS>"  as root, it connects
[06:16] <mindspin> and I can give you no help sorry
[06:16] <brett> Can anyone help with automatically connecting wireless to an AP at boot.  I can do it manually with `sudo iwlist wlan0 scan' I'm at my wit's end with this.
[06:16] <osity> whistler.....what have you read about raid?
[06:16] <Drako60> yeah it is weird mindspin
[06:17] <Whistler> osity that raid is not nessecary hardawe and it can be software
[06:17] <theine> Drako60, which mirror are you using?
[06:17] <Drako60> ftp.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[06:17] <theine> Drako60, archive.ubuntu.com or some other mirror?
[06:17] <Whistler> osity using it u can get more performance
[06:17] <theine> Drako60, ok
[06:18] <mindspin> cary you better find a powerbook user ;-)
[06:18] <theine> so what's the deb line in your sources.list?
[06:18] <Falke> steron, are you here ?
[06:18] <chombee> Can anyone give me a command that will list my network interfaces? etho etc. Will ifconfig contain all of them?
[06:18] <steron> Falke, sorry, first you should be sure which devices you're using. If you've got only a modem, then you've to go through ppp0. If you've got a router, then it's his job to connect to your browser.
[06:18] <mindspin> ifconfig
[06:18] <theine> chombee, ifconfig -a
[06:18] <Falke> sry, no router
[06:18] <Falke> forget the router
[06:18] <prego> how do I have to change the marillat line since debian has released new version?
[06:19] <Falke> i have to dial in
[06:19] <steron> Falke, I think this channel is the wrong place for this problem
[06:19] <Falke> and my provider uses pptp
[06:19] <chombee> mindspin without the -a it lists only active ones, theine thanks
[06:19] <theine> Drako60, try to remove 'ftp.' from 'ftp.archive.ubuntu.com' and try again
[06:19] <Falke> ?
[06:19] <mindspin> you're right
[06:19] <Falke> why that please ?
[06:19] <steron> Falke, you should better check out some websites for that
[06:19] <chombee> theine, mindpsin - eth0 is inactive, what do I use to bring it up? ifupdown? It's dhcp so I don't want to configure it
[06:20] <Falke> i have
[06:20] <theine> chombee, ifup
[06:20] <Falke> i made it after a german tutorial from ubuntuusers.de
[06:20] <theine> chombee, ifup eth0
[06:20] <Falke> and it didnt work
[06:20] <steron> Falke, i don't think that it's a problem with ubuntu...
[06:20] <theine> chombee, check /etc/net/interfaces whether dhcp is anabled for eth0
[06:20] <Falke> it is
[06:20] <Falke> it works well with windows
[06:20] <mindspin> Falke which provider ?
[06:20] <Falke> aon
[06:20] <steron> Falke, but i've to go... good luck!
[06:20] <theine> chombee, sorry, that's /etc/network/interfaces
[06:20] <Falke> ok, sija
[06:20] <Falke> thank you
[06:21] <chombee> theine - ifup eth0 complains that the interface is unknown
[06:21] <theine> chombee, but it is listed by `ifconfig -a'
[06:21] <theine> chombee, ?
[06:21] <chombee> theine - yes
[06:21] <mindspin> tried sudo/etc/init.d/networking restart?
[06:21] <theine> chombee, then check /etc/network/interfaces
[06:22] <mindspin> chombee route?
[06:22] <chombee> theine: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet...
[06:22] <chombee> mindspin ?
[06:22] <newbie> Hello
[06:22] <theine> chombee, perhaps paste it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl so we can take a look at it
[06:22] <newbie> can anyone please help me
[06:22] <chiefofthejojo1> what do you need newbie?
[06:22] <chombee> theine - in interfaces I see mapping hotplug script grep map eth0
[06:22] <newbie> ok
[06:22] <mindspin> do you have a default gateway entry?
[06:22] <Codeman7> I just installed 5.04 on my laptop, and every minute or so the pointer/insertion point freezes up for a solid second, and then returns so I can use it... it's like the whole system stops for a second.
[06:23] <Drako60> i just love this dns problem
[06:23] <newbie> i am trying to move a file to a folder but it is sayign i don't have permission
[06:23] <newbie> how can i fix that?
[06:23] <Falke> is this the right syntax for pap-secrets : <username> * <password> *  ?
[06:23] <chiefofthejojo1> you need to chmod either the file or the folder
[06:23] <chombee> mindspin - I tried rebooting the machine
[06:23] <bigfoot1> anybody using "block Ads" in their Firefox's usercontent.css file?
[06:23] <theine> chombee, is there a line saying "iface eth0 inet dhcp"?
[06:23] <mindspin> Falke seems to
[06:23] <chiefofthejojo1> or, you could su root so you have all permissions
[06:23] <chombee> mindspin - I don't know if I have a default gateway, but it should DHCP
[06:23] <newbie> how do u do that?
[06:23] <chiefofthejojo1> which one?
[06:23] <chombee> theine - in interfaces? no
[06:24] <prego> newbie, is that folder yours?
[06:24] <newbie> chmod the folder
[06:24] <newbie> no i think it's the root
[06:24] <Drako60> theine, i have no idea why that worked but thank you
[06:24] <mindspin> chombe try route
[06:24] <prego> newbie, bad news then
[06:24] <newbie> what?
[06:24] <chiefofthejojo1> do "ls -l" on the folder and that shows you what permissions you have on it
[06:24] <theine> chombee, me neither, but you're welcome :)
[06:24] <mindspin> you'll see if there is a default gw
[06:24] <theine> chombee, you need to add that line
[06:24] <prego> newbie, which folder is it?
[06:25] <chiefofthejojo1> well, not on the folder, on the folder's parent
[06:25] <Drako60> now to figure out the dns issue i have
[06:25] <newbie> it's the apache www folder
[06:25] <chombee> theine - I would paste the stuff, but it's on another laptop that has no network connection working... maybe I'll copy it out by hand if easier stuff doesn't work
[06:25] <newbie> i am trying to move files to it
[06:25] <mindspin> newbie is it your machine?
[06:25] <chiefofthejojo1> is it your computer newbie?
[06:25] <newbie> yes
[06:25] <mindspin> ;-)
[06:25] <theine> chombee, don't worry, you only need 3 lines...
[06:25] <chiefofthejojo1> do you have the root password?
[06:25] <theine> chombee, auto lo
[06:25] <theine> chombee, iface lo inet loopback
[06:25] <theine> chombee, iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:26] <newbie> well, i am the only one usuing the computer, but how do i know?
[06:26] <newbie> is it my password?
[06:26] <bigfoot1> what's the command for running fx in safe mode?
[06:26] <theine> chombee, and, if you want to bring up eth0 automatically at boot:
[06:26] <theine> chombee, auto eth0
[06:26] <chombee> theine - good, thanks, I now have all three of those lines
[06:26] <chiefofthejojo1> you need to know your root password
[06:26] <prego> newbie, OK, I see then, try with "sudo nautilus --no-desktop", browse to that folder and drag the files into that nautilus window. But be careful with what you do with that/those nautilus root windows....
[06:26] <theine> chombee, try again
[06:26] <mindspin> newbie sudo cp blah.php /path/to apache/docs
[06:26] <Drako60> i have three entries in resolv.conf primary and secondary nameserver and search domain.actdsltmp but when trying to connect to multiply sites or irc servers, it often reads the IP address as <IP_ADDRESS> any idea?
[06:26] <chombee> theine - added auto eth0 as well
[06:27] <chombee> theine - rebooting
[06:27] <newbie> what is blah.php?
[06:27] <mindspin> the name of your php file
[06:27] <theine> chombee, a reboot wasn't necessary
[06:27] <theine> chombee, but won't do any harm either :)
[06:27] <chombee> theine - I know, but I don't know the command
[06:27] <theine> chombee, which command?
[06:28] <mindspin> chombee sudo/etc/init.d/networking restart would have done it
[06:28] <chombee> theine - to restart the network interfaces
[06:28] <mindspin> chombee sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart would have done it
[06:28] <cary> is there any known issue with powerbook sound being basically inaudible?
[06:28] <chombee> mindspin - yeah, that one
[06:28] <tsw> hmm If ubuntu is for desktop usage and maybe for test servers (usually used by only one person) should apache (and some other services) be installed so that the first user has rights to it autoagically? (just a thought)
[06:28] <theine> chombee, or just ifup eth0
[06:28] <chombee> theine - thanks
[06:29] <chombee> theine - excellent, it looks like it did it! Finally this HD can see some repositories, I hope
[06:29] <theine> chombee, nice
[06:29] <prego> tsw, first user has sudo privileges, nevertheless
[06:29] <mindspin> I#m wondering with which nick newbie will come again
[06:29] <prego> mindspin, he he
[06:30] <Drako60> this is annoying
[06:30] <theine> chombee, I wonder why the eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces wasn't there in the first place...
[06:30] <tsw> prego: thats true, Imm just curious, should we try to teach everyone how to do these things or just make it work "out of the apt" :)
[06:30] <chombee> theine - from a server install, what command will get the default system and update everything? sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop ?
[06:30] <theine> chombee, that's right
[06:31] <theine> chombee, or just ubuntu-desktop
[06:31] <prego> tsw, teach, teach, teach and then .... learn!
[06:31] <mindspin> tsw It should not be too easy
[06:31] <chombee> theine - this HD was previously in another laptop with no network card, we just transplanted it, and apparently hotplug didn't autoconfigure all the new hardware
[06:31] <theine> chombee, ...which depends on ubuntu-base I guess
[06:31] <theine> chombee, ah, I see
[06:31] <tsw> prego: yes, but not everyone needs to be sysadmin
[06:31] <Drako60> i have three entries in resolv.conf primary and secondary nameserver and search domain.actdsltmp but when trying to connect to multiply sites or irc servers, it often reads the IP address as <IP_ADDRESS> but oddly if i do ping url i can connect just fine any idea?
[06:31] <lancer285> how do I switch run levels in ubuntu? I tried sudo init 3 and nothing happens
[06:31] <prego> tsw, I *like* having to put "sudo" prefix to dangerous commads, you know.
[06:31] <chombee> theine - do you think much will go wrong if I apt-get the default system, then transplant the HD back in the other laptop?
[06:32] <mindspin> Drako60 try another nameserver
[06:32] <prego> lancer285, are you sure??
[06:32] <tsw> then again I dont have a clue how these things work in windows (where most of newbies came from)
[06:32] <prego> lancer285, what says "runlevel" command?
[06:32] <theine> chombee, no,I don't think so
[06:32] <Drako60> mindspin, i have i still get the same thing
[06:32] <mindspin> tsw ;-)
[06:32] <chombee> theine - well, wish me luck
[06:32] <lancer285> prego: I want to be able to install my nvidia drivers, can't do it while X is running
[06:32] <theine> chombee, sure, i'll cross my fingers...
[06:32] <prego> tsw, that's the main reason because dummies bork their windows installations, IMHO. It's long I don't use windows anyway.
[06:32] <cspan> lancer285, can't you?
[06:33] <tsw> prego: I like sudo too, helps with slow head and fast fingers :)
[06:33] <likkashot> Im trying to install a theme and everytime it says wrong file format
[06:33] <likkashot> and its a tar.gz
[06:33] <chombee> theine - I suppose I'll return in a couple of hours, I need to configure a non-standard wireless card before doing the re-transplant
[06:33] <prego> lancer285, I see, but check that X11 is not at runlevel 3, btw.
[06:33] <theine> chombee, okidoki
[06:34] <prego> lancer285, cannot try it myself since I'm working... despite of chatting :-P
[06:34] <prego> lancer285, btw, are you using apt repositories for nvidia or just using the nvidia installer directly?
[06:34] <lancer285> is the red text to me, someone that's whispering?
[06:35] <theine> chombee, you probably know that, but don't forget to run apt-get update before you install ubuntu-desktop...
[06:35] <prego> tsw, I also suffer from that disease.
[06:35] <lancer285> I was going to use the nvidia installer.
[06:35] <kdibble> could someone tell me the procedure to get the tun interface to route?
[06:36] <chombee> theine - yes I did
[06:36] <prego> lancer285, I've not yet used nvidia+ubuntu but I would try first with repositories nvidia drivers, I guess that you don't have to change your runlevel at all.
[06:36] <prego> lancer285, just restart Xserver once the upgrade has completed (and perhaps check before the /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[06:37] <lancer285> prego: okay, thanks.
[06:37] <lancer285> also, Firefox won't start up.
[06:37] <prego> lancer285, also check the wiki site, perhaps there is specific informaiton
[06:37] <prego> lancer285, since when??
[06:37] <lancer285> prego since I installed it. I just installed Ubuntu yesterday. Had LOTS of probs
[06:38] <prego> lancer285, it has never worked?
[06:38] <Drako60> sometimes ubuntu does some really weird things
[06:38] <lancer285> prego: no, I cannot open Firefox. It just says 'starting firefox' then it quits
[06:38] <Drako60> why can't i install irssi-snapshot without synaptic removing ubuntu-desktop?
[06:38] <prego> lancer285, I would fix the problems prior to any nvidia driver installation.
[06:38] <lancer285> I tried running it from a terminal, and I didn't get any error mesage
[06:39] <prego> lancer285, reinstall it.
[06:39] <lancer285> firefox?
[06:39] <prego> lancer285, the firefox I mean, of course.
[06:39] <lancer285> okay
[06:39] <prego> lancer285, also try with epiphany,...
[06:39] <Mwnci> i have used apt to install rt2500 from debian.org    how do I run this program or get ubuntu to register the card
[06:39] <lancer285> k
[06:40] <prego> lancer285, btw you have installed flash plugin?
[06:40] <Drako60> where can i get irssi 0.8.10?
[06:40] <lancer285> no
[06:40] <prego> lancer285, and are you using composite extension? (well, have you got it enabled at xorg.conf?)
[06:40] <theine> chombee, because irssi-snapshot conflicts with irssi-text which is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop
[06:41] <theine> Drako60, because irssi-snapshot conflicts with irssi-text which is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop
[06:41] <lancer285> No, this install is fresh outta the box. I haven't edited the conf file at all
[06:41] <prego> lancer285, -it is not enabled by default, so I guess that everything is OK)
[06:41] <lancer285> k
[06:41] <lancer285> prego, are you whispering to me?
[06:42] <zzzap> CAN ANYONE HELP ME
[06:42] <zzzap> IS THERE A WAY TO INSTALL WINDOWS FONTS ON UBUNTU?

[06:42] <GNULinuxer> zzzap, yes
[06:42] <lancer285> plz don't shout (:
[06:42] <zzzap> ok, sorry about the caps
[06:42] <zzzap> i wasen't shoting
[06:42] <chombee> theine - I guess that last comment was for someone else
[06:42] <prego> lancer285, no... what do you mean?
[06:42] <zzzap> *shouting
[06:43] <Mwnci> nobody know?
[06:43] <repete> zzzap: you can just copy the .ttf files to ~/.fonts
[06:43] <Drako60> theine, well thats lovely but i need 0.8.10 which apparently can only be gotten through cvs or snapshot, and the cvs when compiled with fakeroot debian/rules binary gives the version 0.7 something which then conflicts with apt
[06:43] <theine> chombee, it was
[06:43] <zzzap> what do u mean? repete
[06:43] <chombee> theine - I suppose I should remove those lines that I added to interfaces before re-transplanting the HD, because in the other laptop they will no longer be relevant?
[06:43] <GNULinuxer> zzzap, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[06:43] <prego> zzzap, there is specific instructions at the ubuntuguide.org, but GNULinuxer has extracted them to you ;-)
[06:43] <repete> zzzap: I believe if you google for microsoft fonts there is a sourceforge project that has a download for the fonts
[06:44] <zzzap> repete, thank you soo much!
[06:44] <theine> chombee, they'll probably be appropriate for the other system as well
[06:44] <repete> zzzap: you untar that file and copy the files into ~/.fonts
[06:44] <repete> zzzap: np
[06:44] <zzzap> oh, ok
[06:44] <demantik> Quick question  - GTK...whats the name to be searching for to use with apt-get
[06:44] <zzzap> is ~/.fonts a folder?
[06:44] <theine> chombee, they'll probably be appropriate for the other system as well
[06:44] <GNULinuxer> prego, i am thinking about learning the guide by heart ... for those newbies who don't read the guide
[06:44] <GNULinuxer> zzzap, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[06:45] <zzzap> i did that
[06:45] <zzzap> now what do i do?
[06:45] <demar> hi there
[06:45] <GNULinuxer> zzzap, sudo fc-cache -f -v
[06:45] <chombee> theine - actually, the other system has no (working) ethernet card, though it does have a proprietary external wireless card
[06:45] <prego> GNULinuxer, so you are right now doing "sudo apt-get install-into-user-memory ubuntuguide"?
[06:45] <chombee> theine - do I configure wireless interfaces in the same interfaces file?
[06:45] <demar> finally i got my ubuntu today
[06:45] <demar> and know its installed
[06:45] <GNULinuxer> prego, lol
[06:45] <zzzap> Thank you GNULinuxer
[06:46] <theine> chombee, yes
[06:46] <GNULinuxer> zzzap, my pleasure
[06:46] <zzzap> is that all i have to do?
[06:46] <ka7ana> hey there, any docs available about using NDIS wrapper with Ubuntu Linux?
[06:46] <demantik> anybody
[06:46] <GNULinuxer> zzzap, no, you have to format your / too
[06:46] <zzzap> how?
[06:46] <sith__> espanol!!!!!!!!!!! plz
[06:46] <sith__> where?
[06:46] <demar> i'm starting to like ubuntu
[06:46] <chombee> theine - nice
[06:46] <theine> chombee, my wireless interface is called eth1, but it could be that it would be eth0 if I didn't have a ethernet device
[06:47] <GNULinuxer> zzzap, mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1
[06:47] <chombee> theine - oh
[06:47] <brett> ka7ana: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 helped me out a lot
[06:47] <Evgheni> hello
[06:47] <theine> chombee, what wireless card is in there by the way?"
[06:47] <Whistler> how do i take a screenshot?
[06:47] <prego> GNULinuxer, you should not make that sort of jokes....
[06:48] <concept10> ka7ana, check the wiki there is a writeup for ndiswrapper
[06:48] <GNULinuxer> prego, lol
[06:48] <prego> zzzap do not do that!!!
[06:48] <theine> chombee, in any case, i would leave the line in for now as it won't cause any harm, even if the wireless interface is not called eth0
[06:48] <ka7ana> okidoki, thanks
[06:48] <prego> oops he is not here.....
[06:48] <GNULinuxer> prego, he is gone
[06:48] <GNULinuxer> prego, i thought he'll understand
[06:48] <prego> lets hope he is not gone because he has input that line :-P
[06:49] <GNULinuxer> prego, that's why i said FORMAT and not just mkfs
[06:49] <root_____>  /query ^siro
[06:49] <chombee> theine - we have a Linkyss Wireless-G WPC54G. I think we will need to d/l and compile ndiswrapper and a Windows driver and build a kernel module...
[06:49] <Whistler> how do i take a screenshot?
[06:49] <prego> GNULinuxer, lol, but scared at the same time...
[06:49] <theine> chombee, probably...
[06:50] <tarvid> how do I change screen resolution?
[06:50] <brett> chombee: from what I've read in the forums, the default ndiswrapper should work for that card.
[06:50] <brett> I'm on a WMP54GS
[06:50] <prego> GNULinuxer, did you read the "hacker" auto-hacked at chat story?
[06:50] <GNULinuxer> prego, no
[06:50] <GNULinuxer> prego, what is the story?
[06:51] <tarvid> System, Screen Resolution only offers 640x480
[06:51] <demantik> Can anybody tell me what Solaris is like?....and what the primary desktop is, what makes it different from linux etc....and open/free bsd = what difference.
[06:51] <prego> GNULinuxer, was about a guy that entered a chat sayig "I will hack you, giveme your IP"
[06:51] <GNULinuxer> prego, ya
[06:51] <prego> GNULinuxer, and they have him "<IP_ADDRESS>".....
[06:51] <theine> chombee, you don't need to compile ndiswrapper though
[06:51] <GNULinuxer> prego, somebody gave him <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:51] <prego> GNULinuxer, sorry, you are right.
[06:51] <theine> chombee, it's available in the ubuntu repos afaik
[06:51] <GNULinuxer> prego, ya
[06:51] <prego> GNULinuxer, and I am too sleepy
[06:52] <chombee> brett - what do you mean? that doesn't seem to match with the nidswrapper instructions on the site, explain?
[06:52] <GNULinuxer> prego, goodnight
[06:52] <prego> he he
[06:52] <GNULinuxer> prego, but where are you?
[06:52] <chombee> theine - good, thanks
[06:52] <mindspin> demantik I would suggest you to google and read about that..
[06:52] <chombee> theine - now that on day three we can finally talk to some repos.
[06:52] <prego> GNULinuxer, in spain, it is  almost 19:00 here, awaiting for weekend
[06:52] <theine> chombee, sorry, actually you do need to compile it...
[06:52] <lancer285> how do I change the owner for a whole selection of directories?
[06:52] <demantik> haha...yeah, i should know better than to speak of it in a linux room :| i did search..didnt find much....ill look later..
[06:52] <brett> chombee: the instructions are written for specific .inf file, but you can substitute the proper .inf for your driver
[06:53] <GNULinuxer> prego, i see
[06:53] <GNULinuxer> prego, i have met quite a few good guys here in this chan
[06:53] <chombee> brett - so what is the procedure?
[06:53] <veronica> hi everyone.....im trying raid for the first time....
[06:53] <mindspin> demantik its not because its alinux room, it#s because its to much to talk and "slightly" ot
[06:54] <veronica> anyone ever heard of it
[06:54] <GNULinuxer> veronica, yes
[06:54] <GNULinuxer> veronica, what type of raid?
[06:54] <veronica> software raid 1 have you heard of it...
[06:54] <demantik> fair enough..
[06:54] <brett> chombee: Instructions here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 but substitute in the proper .inf file name for your driver.
[06:54] <veronica> im new at all this
[06:54] <GNULinuxer> veronica, ya
[06:54] <thenuke> veronica: there are many kinds of "raid levels"
[06:54] <ST4TIK> software raid *shudders*
[06:55] <GNULinuxer> thenuke, she's talking about RAID/1
[06:55] <brett> chombee: if that doesn't work, you'll need to compile ndiswrapper from source.  But compiling from source will prevent you from installing updates to the linux-image package
[06:56] <chombee> brett - hmm... thanks
[06:56] <theine> brett, ah, so the ubuntu kernel includes the ndiswrapper module out of the box?
[06:56] <GNULinuxer> theine, yes
[06:56] <brett> theine: yes, an older version
[06:56] <GNULinuxer> theine, the restricted modules package
[06:57] <brett> 1.0rc2.  latest is 1.2
[06:57] <theine> brentd, GNULinuxer, nice
[06:57] <veronica> has anyone ever set this complicated stuff up
[06:58] <chrissturm> veronica: look at evms
[06:58] <veronica> what's that?
[06:58] <GNULinuxer> veronica, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallingToRAID1
[06:59] <veronica> thank you GNULinuxer
[06:59] <GNULinuxer> veronica, my pleasure
[07:00] <demantik> LOL @ GNULinuxer
[07:00] <GNULinuxer> demantik, why?
[07:00] <demantik> nevermind
[07:00] <GNULinuxer> demantik, wtf was that?
[07:00] <demantik> hahaha
[07:00] <veronica> veronika= osity  haha
[07:01] <GNULinuxer> demantik, you laugh at me and say never mind? as if i laughed at you
[07:01] <demantik> dont worry about it. ;)
[07:01] <demantik> LOL
[07:02] <Fabian> pfp, ya here?
[07:02] <lxuser> hi evey body
[07:02] <apogee> mmm
[07:02] <Whistler> hi lxuser
[07:02] <Whistler> =]
[07:03] <apogee> GNULinuxer gets angry quickly LOL
[07:03] <GNULinuxer> apogee, i was joking dude
[07:03] <apogee> haha...its all good...
[07:03] <Fabian> pfp, done and booted correctly! :D
[07:04] <Fabian> how can I see, if my swap partition is being used?
[07:04] <theine> Fabian, swapon -s
[07:04] <apogee> anyway people im out, 1504 here :|.....cyaz
[07:04] <GNULinuxer> Fabian, free
[07:04] <kimu> hi~ this is my first time to use linux
[07:04] <GNULinuxer> Fabian, the command is Free
[07:04] <Dalkus> what command takes a screenshot?
[07:05] <prego> Dalkus, press the "print screen" button at keyboard
[07:05] <Dalkus> yeah... I know... but is there a cli command to do it?
[07:05] <Fabian> GNULinuxer, mmhhh, what can I do, if swap is not used? how can I tell ubuntu where the swap partition is?
[07:05] <prego> Dalkus, there are also commands for that but then the shell is caught with the command being fired :-P
[07:05] <GNULinuxer> Fabian, swapon -a
[07:06] <theine> Fabian, is your swap partition listed in /etc/fstab?
[07:06] <prego> Dalkus, the so old xwld or something like that (I can't recall correctly)
[07:06] <Dalkus> thanks :)
[07:06] <lxuser> im looking for how to add some libraries missin in my Ubuntu
[07:06] <GNULinuxer> lxuser, like?
[07:06] <lxuser> i need to run JBuilder
[07:07] <ren0> I am using a laptop with only one dvd-burner. Can I make a copy of an audio cd using k3b? Or do I need to buy an external cd drive?
[07:07] <lxuser>  ./jbuilder: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:07] <Codeman7> I just installed 5.04 on my laptop, and every minute or so the pointer/insertion point freezes up for a solid second, and then returns so I can use it... it's like the whole system stops for a second.
[07:07] <concept10> ren0, Yes
[07:08] <GNULinuxer> lxuser, sudo apt-get install libstdc++
[07:08] <concept10> ren0, that is you can copy with one burner
[07:08] <c_rodge> how can i download the codecs so i can view avi files in gnome
[07:08] <prego> Codeman7, perhaps you shoud disable acpi for your laptop.
[07:08] <ren0> So is it just a matter of inserting the cd click on copy...then insert the cd-r when k3b asks for it?
[07:09] <theine> lxuser, you need to install  libs/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 from universe
[07:09] <concept10> ren0, yes. it copies the cd to the harddrive then back to the blank
[07:09] <prego> ren0, I never copy audio CDs, I transfer the songs to the hardrive with cdparanoia and then I burn a new CD afterwards.
[07:09] <GNULinuxer> lxuser, libstdc++6 - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
[07:09] <GNULinuxer> libstdc++6-4.0-dbg - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (debugging files)
[07:09] <GNULinuxer> libstdc++6-4.0-dev - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (development files)
[07:09] <GNULinuxer> libstdc++6-4.0-doc - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (documentation files)
[07:09] <GNULinuxer> libstdc++6-4.0-pic - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (shared library subset kit)
[07:09] <prego> ren0, I'm very paranoic in audio matters, btw.
[07:10] <Drako60> c_rodge, try mplayer
[07:10] <theine> lxuser, if you're missing some shared libraries, you can always go on http://packages.ubuntu.com and search te contents of all available packages for a specific file
[07:10] <ren0> OK. Thanks concept10 , and prego...I'll give both a try. You are not paranoid...Its just everyone is against you.
[07:11] <theine> lxuser, sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[07:12] <GNULinuxer> theine, lxuser is not listening
[07:12] <Choubaka> Hmm. I got my Ubuntu CDs today.
[07:12] <Choubaka> :D
[07:12] <lxuser> with sudo apt-get intall libstdc++ i get errors of not found package
[07:12] <Drako60> hmm i can't seem to find libc6 anywhere
[07:13] <theine> GNULinuxer, too bad...
[07:13] <theine> lxuser, sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[07:13] <GNULinuxer> lxuser, scroll up and see
[07:13] <lxuser> sory i was tryn what u were sayin
[07:13] <theine> lxuser, believe me, you want to do that...
[07:13] <GNULinuxer> lxuser, don't be so fast
[07:14] <theine> lxuser, then you need to enable the universe repository
[07:14] <Fabian> can I reload fstab somehow, without a complete reboot?
[07:14] <theine> Fabian, what do you mean "reload"?
[07:15] <GNULinuxer> theine, to make it active
[07:15] <prego> ren0, "cdparanoia -Q" shows the songs
[07:15] <lxuser> wait, wait.... the first step was edit source.list
[07:15] <Fabian> well, I changed the definition of my swap partition in fstab. And I want it to use that swap partition now
[07:15] <prego> ren0, "cdparanoia -B1-12" extracts songs from 1 to 12
[07:15] <lxuser> and uncomment all lines that began with deb...
[07:15] <lxuser> then i made apt-get update
[07:16] <Fabian> theine, well, I changed the definition of my swap partition in fstab. And I want it to use that swap partition now
[07:16] <theine> lxuser, uncomment _all_ lines that begin with deb???
[07:17] <theine> lxuser, go back to how it was and replace all occurencies of "main restircted" with "main restricted universe multiverse"
[07:17] <lxuser> sorry about my english... i'm form Nicaragua im doin' my best effort
[07:17] <Quest-Master> Can someone link me to a download for the Bluecurve Metacity theme?
[07:17] <veronica> i installed ubuntu using the raid option...it's up and running butwill it reboot ?
[07:17] <veronica> im scared to restart it
[07:18] <theine> Fabian, have you formatted your swap partition as swap?
[07:18] <theine> Fabian, and set the partition type to swap?
[07:18] <thenuke> to not have an swap-partition might not be an issue if one has enough ram
[07:19] <theine> lxuser, don't worry, could you perhaps paste your /etc/apt/sources.list at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[07:19] <lxuser> does anybody speak spanish..?
[07:19] <tsume> lxuser: #ubuntu no hable Espanol :P
[07:20] <envel> kubuntu  - is it good?
[07:20] <thenuke> yo hablo Espanol, or not.
[07:20] <forsaker8k6> beeter ubuntu
[07:20] <thenuke> lxuser: try #ubuntu.es for Spanish users
[07:20] <tsume> envel: well, KDE is lightyears ahead of GNOME
[07:20] <forsaker8k6> or my e-ubuntu as i like to name mine
[07:20] <chombee> Okay now I have the GNOME desktop, but the resolution is stuck at 640x480, 60Hz, GNOME gives no other options, how do I fix this?
[07:20] <envel> kubuntu is better than ubuntu?
[07:20] <iceonnet> how to install xvid?
[07:21] <tsume> envel: the only difference is KDE and gnome
[07:21] <thenuke> envel: is gnome better than kde? it's your choice :)
[07:21] <envel> tsume: and that's all?
[07:21] <tsume> envel: yep
[07:21] <envel> tsume: hmmm... thanks
[07:21] <tsume> thenuke: actually KDE being better than GNOME is a fact
[07:22] <forsaker8k6> tsume... it's a metter of choice
[07:22] <forsaker8k6> i preder gnome
[07:22] <forsaker8k6> prefer
[07:22] <concept10> forsaker8k6, I agree with you
[07:22] <forsaker8k6> personally
[07:22] <envel> I always thought that KDE is so slow. But in Kubuntu... It's so fast. And GNOME too
[07:22] <tsume> thenuke: GNOME doesn't have policy settings, its not customisation like KDE, The GNOME API isn't as complex if you read code.
[07:22] <tsume> forsaker8k6: not really
[07:22] <concept10> tsume, what policy settings?
[07:23] <forsaker8k6> and now i'm falling in gnome with Enlightenment e17
[07:23] <forsaker8k6> on wich i am now
[07:23] <tsume> concept10: you can have policies like in Windows. KDE is great on networks when you need to restrict settings
[07:23] <envel> tsume: what do you recomend for desktop to user who had just working in Windows?
[07:23] <tsume> envel: KDE. Gnome is straight forward, but not as complex
[07:23] <theine> envel, I'd go for Ubuntu as it is more polished IMHO
[07:24] <envel> hmmm....
[07:24] <concept10> tsume, Im not understanding what policies you are talking about
[07:24] <tsume> envel: I've both instllation disks of ubuntu
[07:24] <tsume> concept10: KDE has restriction policies
[07:24] <tsume> concept10: GNOME does now.
[07:24] <tsume> *not*
[07:24] <concept10> tsume, restrictions on what?
[07:25] <theine> tsume, that's nice, but what are those "restricted policies" actually?
[07:26] <envel> How to make in GNOME menu button like in KDE (or Windows)?
[07:26] <tsume> forsaker8k6: thats because gnome people are slightly deprived
[07:26] <Choubaka> envel: Be more specific please.
[07:26] <tsume> envel: gnome should have a menu on the bottom
[07:26] <Choubaka> tsume: No, it's because people generalise (based on some bad feature they don't like)
[07:26] <tsume> *menubar
[07:27] <concept10> forsaker8k6, because people like to advocate thier desktop wm.  Theres nothing wrong with Gnome or KDE
[07:27] <tsume> Choubaka: you mean gnome people are clueless :)
[07:27] <forsaker8k6> boyz get enlightened :D choos E as your desktop shell
[07:27] <envel> Choubaka: I want to have one Start Menu button, not "Applications", "System", "Places"
[07:27] <theine> tsume, actually, it's at the top...
[07:27] <Choubaka> tsume: they are not. :P
[07:27] <Choubaka> It's actually better to have the menu on top, you know.
[07:27] <tsume> theine: well, I drag 2 bars around my screen. Ones on top, other on bottom
[07:27] <forsaker8k6> i agree with you concept10
[07:27] <Choubaka> you need to move the mouse less.
[07:27] <tsume> Choubaka: there is a menu on tpo, but I've special applet needs
[07:27] <theine> tsume, me too, but by default, the applications menu is at the top
[07:27] <concept10> envel, thats how gnome 2.10 is.  You can customize that if you want
[07:28] <hellfire> does someone use dvd burner
[07:28] <theine> envel, what's your beef with the menu layout in Gnome?
[07:28] <Rockett17> IMHO I never liked the feel of KDE. It always felt too cluttered
[07:28] <theine> hellfire, I do
[07:28] <hellfire> because i have problems with mine
[07:28] <forsaker8k6> me too Rockett17
[07:28] <hellfire> it`s pioneer 107
[07:28] <concept10> Rockett17, Yes. too much.
[07:29] <hellfire> and i can`t write with speed higher than 2x
[07:29] <tsume> http://jriddell.org/programs/kiosk-article.html
[07:29] <concept10> KDE 3.4 does look nice, but I like gnome.  I like the look of GTK better than QT
[07:29] <tsume> KDE is more advanced, like it or not
[07:29] <theine> hellfire, it could be that you need to enable DMA for your DVD drive
[07:29] <Choubaka> tsume: Anyway, I don't use gnome, but I don't use KDE either. And honestly I'd rather use gnome than KDE as things are now. Because of this, I resent your "GNOME people are clueless" -generalisation.
[07:29] <Choubaka> tsume: What do you have to prove that?
[07:29] <tsume> concept10: well, Qt is overpriced :)
[07:29] <theine> hellfire, hdparm /dev/dvd
[07:30] <Choubaka> Gnome is more advanced when it comes to internationalisation.
[07:30] <forsaker8k6> Choubaka, what dm r you using?
[07:30] <tsume> Choubaka: read links I posted
[07:30] <tsume> http://jriddell.org/programs/kiosk-article.html
[07:30] <Choubaka> forsaker8k6: xfce4.
[07:30] <theine> hellfire, check whether using_dma is on
[07:30] <forsaker8k6> never used.. gotta try one day or later
[07:30] <tsume> http://www.kde.org/areas/sysadmin/
[07:30] <Choubaka> Ok, actually it's GTK2 over QT which I prefer.
[07:30] <concept10> tsume, you can do that in gnome.  I see you just dont have knowledge about it
[07:31] <theine> hellfire, no, but other people did have such problems
[07:31] <Choubaka> UI wise, I hate both KDE and Gnome.
[07:31] <tsume> concept10: not as easy however
[07:31] <Funraiser> http://www.forbes.com/business/businesstech/2005/06/16/linux-bsd-unix-cz_dl_0616theo.html
[07:31] <theine> hellfire, what does "hdparm /dev/dvd" give you?
[07:31] <chrissturm> i think qt is more advanced than gtk, but gnome looks much cleaner
[07:31] <concept10> tsume: stop the fud please
[07:31] <hellfire> it shows OFF
[07:31] <hellfire> how to enable it
[07:31] <chombee> Anyone here familiar with Hoary resolution problems?   I didnt want to do this.
[07:32] <theine> Guys, go to OSNews.com if you're looking for a flamewar...
[07:32] <hellfire> 10x theine i`m gonna try whether it worked
[07:33] <theine> hellfire, 10x ?
[07:33] <Choubaka> tsume: To each his own.
[07:33] <tsume> theine: hes probably done that already, so he comes to IRC ;)
[07:33] <hellfire> theine thanks
[07:34] <Choubaka> tsume: You can't say "KDE is more advanced than Gnome" because I can say "Gnome is more advanced than KDE". The Question is "more advanced in what?"
[07:34] <concept10> tsume, Are you talking about me?
[07:34] <hellfire> should i expect some probles after enabling this feature?
[07:34] <theine> hellfire, not very likely
[07:34] <hellfire> it worked thanks
[07:34] <theine> hellfire, as far as i know you have to edit /etc/hdparm.conf in order to make this change persistent across reboots
[07:34] <hellfire> will this work on nec and other dvd recoders
[07:35] <tsume> Choubaka: KDE is more advanced than GNOME in features, and advanced configurations
[07:35] <theine> hellfire, probably
[07:35] <Choubaka> tsume: which features?
[07:35] <hellfire> thanks fo help
[07:35] <ivoks> omg... gnome vs kde flames
[07:35] <Choubaka> tsume: It might be more configurable, but that's not always a good thing.
[07:35] <ivoks> guys, stop flaming
[07:35] <theine> hellfire, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA
[07:35] <Choubaka> ivoks: Neh.
[07:35] <tsume> Choubaka: Knowing takes looking around for yourself
[07:35] <likkashot> anobody giving help here
[07:36] <concept10> Okay, let me settle this.  tsume - you posted and said that gnome has no restriction policies and you also said gnome people are slightly deprived.  Who is contributing to a flame war, I ask?
[07:36] <chrissturm> are there any thoughts on using objective c as language for gtk development?
[07:36] <Funraiser> I think even the project founder of gnome says KDE is more advanced, there is nothing wrong with that...
[07:36] <Choubaka> I can't take the "KDE has better features" thing
[07:36] <Funraiser> I prefer gnome though
[07:36] <philuk86> is there a way to configure my system to use the hostname provided by the DNS server?
[07:36] <Choubaka> KDE (actually QT) lacks ONE feature I require. Therefore it's useless to me :/
[07:36] <HappyFool> d0rt: which version of emacs?
[07:36] <d0rt> 21
[07:36] <HappyFool> likkashot: ask a question if you have one
[07:36] <theine> My only real problem with Gnome is the close-to-featureless default window manager (metacity)...
[07:37] <Choubaka> Don't use it then
[07:37] <Funraiser> d
[07:37] <likkashot> I have 2 nic cards but one is not detected how do I install it
[07:37] <Funraiser> exactly
[07:37] <Choubaka> use fluxbox or xfwm or kwin :|
[07:37] <Ycros> Choubaka: what is that one feature?
[07:37] <Choubaka> Ycros: input modules.
[07:37] <d0rt> or openbox
[07:37] <tsume> concept10: I still have yet to see any links or proof from you for retaliating against my statements and proof
[07:37] <chrissturm> the "close to featurelessness" of gnome is what makes it so elegant
[07:37] <Ycros> Choubaka: for what language?
[07:37] <tsume> concept10: objc is nice btw, I've used it.
[07:37] <Funraiser> exactly
[07:37] <Choubaka> Ycros: any.
[07:38] <Choubaka> Ycros: "input modules" means being able to switch the input method on the fly.
[07:38] <tsume> its a better choice than mono
[07:38] <Ycros> yeah
[07:38] <concept10> tsume, this is all you need to see: http://www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/latest/
[07:38] <Choubaka> which QT can't do natively yet.
[07:38] <theine> Choubaka, of course I can use openbox etc., but still...
[07:38] <Ycros> I use kinput2 for japanese which works across everything
[07:38] <Choubaka> I hate kinput2 :|
[07:38] <Ycros> qt, gtk, xlib
[07:39] <Ycros> heh
[07:39] <concept10> tsume, if you cant determine that gnome has policies from that, thats your problem.
[07:39] <Ycros> it just works everywhere
[07:39] <Choubaka> I can't use Finnish when I use kinput2
[07:39] <Choubaka> because I need a japanese locale with kinput2
[07:39] <HappyFool> likkashot: not too sure. try checking System -> Adminstratration -> Device Manage to see if the card is at least detected, or try 'sudo lshw' in a terminal
[07:39] <Choubaka> -> no Finnish special characters :(
[07:39] <Ycros> I've fudged my locales
[07:39] <tsume> concept10: //www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/latest/ <-- this is nothing compared to what KDE can do
[07:39] <Funraiser> philuk86, do u have a server?
[07:39] <Ycros> can't you use utf8?
[07:39] <Choubaka> And wrappers scripts are _not_ a solution. )
[07:39] <concept10> tsume, great. next conversation
[07:40] <chrissturm> tsume: what do you want to tell us?
[07:40] <philuk86> Funraiser: yes
[07:40] <Choubaka> Ycros: I do in fact.
[07:40] <likkashot> it says disabled
[07:40] <Choubaka> I guess I could set up UIM with XIM.
[07:40] <HappyFool> likkashot: where?
[07:40] <mencial> Good evening to all. I have a big problem: I cannot get the Ubuntu installer to install from a ISO file in a partition. I have installed it from CD-ROM, but this machine has no CD-ROM and I do not have the resources for a network install.
[07:40] <Choubaka> but I haven't managed to do that yet.
[07:40] <likkashot> in the terminal
[07:40] <Funraiser> philuk86, so yes there is a way but i have to way to do this in French
[07:41] <likkashot> *-network:1 DISABLED
[07:41] <likkashot>        description: controller
[07:41] <likkashot>        physical id: 4
[07:41] <likkashot>        logical name: sit0
[07:41] <Ycros> xim tends to work everywhere
[07:41] <Ycros> :P
[07:41] <Funraiser> the*
[07:41] <philuk86> Funraiser: vous parle en francais?
[07:41] <Funraiser> oui
[07:41] <Choubaka> Ycros: well, yes, but it's bound to one input method.
[07:41] <tsume> chrissturm: I want to tell you nothing, I was telling envel why KDE was better. THe conversation spun off
[07:41] <philuk86> Funraiser: daccord, continuer..
[07:41] <Ycros> Choubaka: what if that one input method is a proxy for others? isn't that what uim or something does?
[07:42] <Funraiser> it's a howto i found in the french ubuntu forum
[07:42] <HappyFool> likkashot: hrm. do you know what sit0 is? I have it too, but I only have one interface, as far as i know
[07:42] <Funraiser> when the link?
[07:42] <Choubaka> Ycros: Then it might work.
[07:42] <concept10> mencial, Im not sure if you can install from a mounted .iso
[07:42] <Funraiser> want?
[07:42] <Choubaka> Ycros: However, I never got UIM to work :/
[07:42] <tsume> the french :) hehe
[07:42] <likkashot> its probabli the name for gigabit nic cards
[07:42] <tsume> the guys who never won a war
[07:42] <Ycros> Choubaka: neither
[07:42] <Funraiser> sorry for the spelling tonight
[07:42] <likkashot> thats what I make of it
[07:42] <ivoks> tsume: KDE can't work on cell phones, gnome can
[07:42] <Choubaka> I speak ~one word of french :P
[07:42] <Funraiser> tsume, have u heard of Napoleon?
[07:42] <ivoks> tsume: :)
[07:42] <philuk86> Funraiser: yeah go on.
[07:42] <theine> tsume, I think Napoleon won a couple of battles...
[07:42] <Choubaka> Cell phones? :D
[07:42] <tsume> Funraiser: I mean a real war
[07:43] <ivoks> Choubaka: nokia.com/770
[07:43] <Choubaka> :D
[07:43] <theine> tsume, like world wars?
[07:43] <Funraiser> tsume, oh! Napolean wars were not real...my bad!
[07:43] <HappyFool> likkashot: well, i don't have a gigabit NIC but i see sit0 in 'lshw' too
[07:43] <mencial> Concept10: The installation manual says something about a "iso-scan" part on the installer that find a .ISO file and installs from there.
[07:43] <likkashot> oops
[07:43] <likkashot> :)
[07:43] <Choubaka> I'm Finnish. I should've known that.
[07:43] <tsume> "The french have a row of trees in the main street, so the enemy can march in the shade" :)
[07:43] <btk> Hi huys..
[07:43] <Funraiser> tsume, please change topic, u don't know what u're talking about
[07:43] <btk> I'm just about to set up initnc..
[07:43] <theine> tsume, how old are you?
[07:43] <concept10> mencial, thats interesting
[07:43] <btk> How do you think about that?
[07:44] <tsume> Funraiser: I guess you don't know much about the world wars ;)
[07:44] <chrissturm> theine, i was about to ask that question too
[07:44] <concept10> theine, under 17
[07:44] <theine> at most
[07:44] <HappyFool> mencial: i glanced through the install manual and i have a feeling it was hastily adapted from the debian manual -- i'm not sure all of it is valid
[07:44] <mencial> Concept10: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch06s02.html: "iso-scan
[07:44] <mencial>     Looks for ISO file systems, which may be on a CD-ROM or on the hard drive."
[07:44] <lxuser> hi again
[07:44] <Funraiser> tsume, exactly, only that I live where the fiercest battles in Europe have been fought
[07:45] <concept10> tsume, youre probably not old enough to join the military
[07:45] <tsume> concept10: I wouldn't be in Alaksa if I were under 17
[07:45] <lxuser> my conexion was down
[07:45] <mencial> HappyFool: I figured. So what would be the way to install without a CD-ROM drive?
[07:45] <likkashot> For more information, see interfaces(5)
[07:45] <lxuser> i paste my source.list as yuo said
[07:45] <concept10> mencial, post that link again. it was dead
[07:45] <likkashot> wheres that
[07:45] <lxuser> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/107
[07:46] <HappyFool> mencial: i don't think it's possible, sorry :-( -- I'm not too sure though
[07:46] <concept10> tsume, alaska has no one under 17 in the state?
[07:46] <HappyFool> likkashot: 'man interfaces'
[07:46] <mencial> Concept10: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch06s02.html
[07:46] <tsume> concept10: a few, not too many. Everyoe moves out
[07:46] <tsume> concept10: damn weaklings
[07:46] <theine> lxuser, will take a look
[07:46] <mencial> Concept10: It seems that it is a Debian manual that does not work for Ubuntu...
[07:46] <Choubaka> hmm.
[07:46] <HappyFool> likkashot: i googled for 'linux sit0' and i think it's for 'tunnelled interfaces'
[07:46] <lxuser> thanks
[07:47] <Choubaka> I wish there was a proper Gnustep desktop environment
[07:47] <HappyFool> likkashot: do you not see other 'Ethernet controllers' in the hardware list?
[07:47] <ivoks> Choubaka: wmaker ;)
[07:47] <Choubaka> ivoks: it's a window manager :P
[07:47] <Choubaka> not a DE
[07:47] <ivoks> Choubaka: +gnustep
[07:47] <mencial> HappyFool: Would using a Debian-installer kernel work with an Ubuntu ISO? Riskyyyy... But I am desperate.
[07:47] <HappyFool> mencial: i don't know
[07:47] <Choubaka> DE = window manager + goodies all set up
[07:48] <chrissturm> anyone using breezy and having keyboard problems? :)
[07:48] <ivoks> mencial: yes
[07:48] <HappyFool> mencial: what do you have to lose?
[07:48] <ivoks> mencial: if you compile proper kernel, it will work with instalatio
[07:48] <theine> lxuser, i'll edit it and re-submit
[07:48] <mencial> HappyFool: Besides 10GB of data, including my (finished) thesis? Nothing...
[07:48] <concept10> mencial, you should note that the link you posted only explains installer components - it doesnt say that you may install from a .iso
[07:48] <lxuser> ok
[07:49] <HappyFool> mencial: then maybe you should backup first ;)
[07:49] <HappyFool> mencial: i would backup even if using a conventional install method
[07:49] <concept10> mencial, you dont have a CD Rom available?
[07:50] <mencial> concept10: It tells about a component that looks for ISO in the HD in case there is no CD.
[07:50] <tobias_> hallo!
[07:51] <tobias_> ich habe ein Problem mit Kubuntu 5. kann mir jemand helfen?
[07:51] <ivoks> english
[07:51] <mencial> concept10: No.  I have 1GB USB keychains available; could I boot from there?
[07:51] <theine> lxuser, still there?
[07:51] <concept10> mencial, it says  "Looks for ISO file systems, which may be on a CD-ROM or on the hard drive."
[07:51] <lxuser> aja...
[07:51] <Funraiser> tobias_, wir sprechen nur english hier
[07:52] <tobias_> ahh, okay.
[07:52] <mencial> I have installed from ISO in HD in Mandrake (rapidly dons asbestos suit).
[07:52] <concept10> mencial, you can install from USB if your bios supports that
[07:52] <dacrepair> ok, i downloaded the following, K3B, airsnort,wine, now i have them but their not on my apps menu, where are they?
[07:52] <theine> lxuser, take a look at what i submitted over http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl, that's all you need
[07:53] <mencial> concept10: It does. Should I just put the .ISO file in the USB HD, or do I have to format something?
[07:53] <tolstoy> folks, how do you "startx" on today's breezy?
[07:53] <chrissturm> tolstoy: what doesnt work for you?
[07:53] <dacrepair> what folder would they be in
[07:53] <theine> tolstoy, why? does startx not exist anymore?
[07:53] <tolstoy> theine, exactly.
[07:53] <lxuser> this will be my new source.list
[07:54] <concept10> mencial, im not sure.  I havent done a usb install - lookup installation instuctions for that
[07:54] <tolstoy> and /etc/init.d/gdm just "returns".  does nothing.
[07:54] <lxuser> ???
[07:54] <theine> tolstoy, what about X?
[07:54] <dacrepair> where is the installed apps folder
[07:54] <firasR> hi all
[07:54] <theine> tolstoy, or Xorg
[07:54] <dacrepair> hello
[07:54] <tolstoy> theine, just type X as a comment?  hm.
[07:54] <theine> tolstoy, yep
[07:54] <i3dmaster> tolstoy: what about gdm?
[07:55] <theine> lxuser, sorry, yes
[07:55] <tolstoy> Xorg gives me a fatal server error.  Can't move the log file, or something.
[07:55] <HappyFool> dacrepair: you can use synaptic to query what files belong to each package (wine / k3b / etc.)
[07:55] <dacrepair> i took a shower this morning
[07:55] <ivoks> tolstoy: sudo apt-get install x-widonw-system-core
[07:55] <tolstoy> i3dmaster, will try it raw
[07:55] <chrissturm> tolstoy: do you have x-window-system-core installed?
[07:55] <dacrepair> k thnks
[07:55] <ivoks> x-window-system-core :)
[07:55] <kcburyshaker> im a brand new ubuntu user  installed it last night
[07:55] <lxuser> ok thank you, where are you from...?
[07:55] <mencial> concept10: The thing is, I can get the install kernel to boot, but it complains that it does not find a CD-ROM and does not let me go forward (even in priority=low)
[07:55] <kcburyshaker> new to linux too
[07:56] <tolstoy> chrissturm, why, no i don't!  How did that get uninstalled! ;)
[07:56] <kcburyshaker> im trying to get java to work   but im clueless on how    any help?
[07:56] <mencial> concept10: Is there another install-kernel? Or a better place to ask?
[07:56] <tolstoy> chrissturm, not that it works.
[07:56] <tsume> don't use java? :)
[07:56] <ivoks> java is Bad[TM]
[07:56] <chrissturm> tolstoy: be careful with dist-upgrade
[07:56] <theine> lxuser, that'll do it
[07:56] <theine> lxuser, try it out
[07:56] <theine> lxuser, despite my ip address I'm from Germany
[07:57] <AySink> kcbury: how far have you got?
[07:57] <kcburyshaker> well  some websites i go to use it
[07:57] <tsume> well, Sun's java implementation anyway
[07:57] <dacrepair> HAPPYFOOL: how and where is synaptic
[07:57] <HappyFool> kcburyshaker: you need to install it; this should help you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java (unfortunately there's more than one option)
[07:57] <tolstoy> chrissturm, I'm okay that's it's hosed up for a bit.  was just wondering if there's a "new paradigm" and startx went away.  maybe some new command, for instance.
[07:57] <HappyFool> dacrepair: System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[07:57] <dacrepair> ok
[07:57] <kcburyshaker> ok happy   ill try that
[07:57] <concept10> mencial, hold on im looking for you
[07:57] <chrissturm> tolstoy: i think startx is in x-window-system, and thats not supported
[07:57] <ivoks> terminus is the best font ever
[07:57] <Funraiser> what can u do when a mousse (usb logitech) only works 30 secs and then disconnects? (for the german dude)
[07:58] <Moe|Joe|L> hey
[07:58] <chrissturm> tolstoy: because normally gdm starts X
[07:58] <mencial> kcburyshaker: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ and Java installs flawlessly. Applets run in firefox. Do you need something more special?
[07:58] <ivoks> tolstoy: there will allways be startx
[07:58] <kcburyshaker> that may work
[07:58] <tolstoy> chrissturm, right.  I only disable gdm on start for breezy so I can still use the machine if, say, nvidia is removed out from under me.
[07:58] <mencial> concept10: Thanks. I'm trying USB now...
[07:58] <chrissturm> tolstoy: i'm wrong, startx is there
[07:59] <likkashot> anybody has a nforce4 ultra motherboards in here
[07:59] <tolstoy> seems that gdm was also removed, but not the init script.
[07:59] <chrissturm> tolstoy: try to install ubuntu-desktop
[07:59] <dacrepair> ahhhhh.......
[07:59] <dacrepair>  thank you all
[07:59] <tolstoy> hah hah!  Session Menu  chooseSessionList Widget.  Wow! ;)  Kind of cool to see this stuff, actually.
[08:00] <sysrq> if you ask for support, you shouldn't be using breezy
[08:00] <tolstoy> chrissturm, will do.  hadn't realized so much stuff was removed.
[08:00] <Moe|Joe|L> i got this error
[08:00] <Moe|Joe|L> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:00] <Moe|Joe|L> wen tryin this command
[08:00] <chrissturm> tolstoy: yesterday was a time when dist-upgrade would remove a lot of x stuff
[08:00] <lxuser> but if click at your name it says that you country is Dinamarca...?
[08:00] <Moe|Joe|L> "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[08:00] <chrissturm> tolstoy: just only use "upgrade"
[08:00] <tolstoy> sysrq, I'm just curious, not asking for support, like official-wise.
[08:00] <lxuser> and your name Tobias...?
[08:00] <HappyFool> Moe|Joe|L: try 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[08:00] <Moe|Joe|L> kk
[08:00] <Moe|Joe|L> noper
[08:01] <Whistler> how can i see my hhds?
[08:01] <theine> lxuser, indeed
[08:01] <chrissturm> anyone know how to get automount working with the breeezy kernel?
[08:01] <Moe|Joe|L> same error
[08:01] <theine> lxuser, out of curiosity... why are you asking?
[08:02] <lxuser> because it's my second time in a IRC channel
[08:02] <AySink> awww
[08:02] <AySink> ;)
[08:02] <theine> lxuser, I see
[08:02] <tolstoy> chrissturm, thanks for the tips.  didn't realize stuff had gotten removed, which was what I needed to know. ;)
[08:03] <Moe|Joe|L> can anyone tink why im gettin this error wen try modprobe ndiswrapper?
[08:03] <lxuser> and i dont know how to work in this enviroment jajaja
[08:03] <dacrepair> ok so i searched it, found it, went to the folder and it wasnt there, WTF!!
[08:03] <chrissturm> tolstoy: i'm glad to help
[08:03] <concept10> mencial, The release notes state that you may install from USB but I couldnt find the docs to do it.  I guess you would have to place the proper .iso on your USB drive and boot from there
[08:04] <dacrepair> o, nvm
[08:04] <concept10> Moe|Joe|L, what is the error again?
[08:04] <Moe|Joe|L> moejoe@Jon-Ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:04] <Moe|Joe|L> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:04] <Moe|Joe|L> and ive tired it without sudo aswell
[08:04] <linuxfan> Does anyone know how to get php if you already have Apache web server??
[08:04] <linuxfan> **and MySQL
[08:05] <HappyFool> linuxfan: look for php (and mysql) in synaptic -- it has a 'search' feature
[08:05] <mencial> concept10: "Place the iso" means: A) cp ubuntu.iso /media/usb B) dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sda ?
[08:05] <linuxfan> what is synaptic, HappyFool?
[08:05] <mencial> concept10: Sorry if I ask too much. I am trying the first and will try the second if it does not work.
[08:05] <AySink> linuxfan : Also if you are after PHP5 a great place to look is wiki.ubuntu.com/PHP5FromSource
[08:05] <jde> !synaptic
[08:05] <ubotu> it has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:06] <linuxfan> ok
[08:06] <linuxfan> thank u\
[08:06] <HappyFool> linuxfan: ubuntu's application mangagement tool
[08:06] <mencial> concept10: Thanks for the help
[08:06] <HappyFool> linuxfan: System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[08:06] <concept10> mencial, im not sure.  try to copy the .iso to the usb drive with nautilus
[08:07] <AlexMBas> hello
[08:07] <HappyFool> mencial: the install manual has this for usb: 'gzip -dc boot.img.gz >/dev/sda'
[08:07] <lxuser> theine: can i just dowload the packages and install them manually...?
[08:07] <mencial> concept10: That's what I am doing first
[08:07] <HappyFool> mencial: however, i couldn't find such a file on the install cd, hence my suspicion that this (and similar) was a debian instruction
[08:07] <chombee> Hey - anyone know what the interface sit0 might be in ifconfig -a
[08:07] <chombee> ?
[08:07] <mencial> HappyFool: Where is that install manual?
[08:08] <lxuser> it looks as my pc cant connect to the ubuntu servers...!
[08:08] <AlexMBas> does anyone have a problem were OpenOffice 1.1.x tries to close from time to time 'by it's own will' ?
[08:08] <HappyFool> mencial: on the (hoary) install cd -- i see you referenced warty earlier
[08:08] <firasR> chombee:  it's the IPv6 interface for ur NIC
[08:08] <HappyFool> mencial: ch04s03.html
[08:08] <firasR> chombee:  IPv6 comes enabled by default
[08:08] <chombee> ok
[08:09] <chombee> brett - how do I find the correct .inf file for my wireless card?
[08:09] <tsume> pff to adventur
[08:09] <tsume> +e
[08:09] <tsume> *off
[08:10] <mencial> HappyFool: boot.img.gz would be a gzipped floppy image. There is one in a bootable CD; I should be able to extract it. But I think that dd'ing the whole .iso would have the same effect (making the usb hd bootable)
[08:10] <lhb> is it just me or is some of the ubuntu wiki documentation taken away?
[08:11] <HappyFool> mencial: i am not familiar with this
[08:11] <HappyFool> mencial: googling for 'boot.img.gz site:archive.ubuntu.com' reveals no hits
[08:11] <lhb> there was a good tutorial on locales and i cant seem to find in the documentation section anymore
[08:12] <veronica> how do i get to a terminal in ubuntu??
[08:12] <Rockett17> ctrl+alt+f1 - 6
[08:13] <veronica> are you serious?
[08:13] <HappyFool> lhb: hmm, you're right. the UserDocumentation page used to be *much* bigger
[08:13] <lhb> right click, open terminal
[08:13] <veronica> why the  -6
[08:13] <Rockett17> 1 through 6
[08:13] <Rockett17> take your pick
[08:13] <Rockett17> 7 is gui
[08:15] <dacrepair> ok now i found airsnort but i dont have my wireless card installed, do i need any system config or will the new hardware me configured automaticly on startup
[08:16] <AySink> veronica: Do you mean how to do you bring up a terminal window within X?
[08:16] <Bramme> is there any way to let grub re-autodetect the OS's ?
[08:16] <dacrepair> yes
[08:17] <dacrepair> lemme think...
[08:17] <dacrepair> or let me try somptin
[08:17] <ivanox> any idea what I can do to make numlock enabled by default!?
[08:17] <ivanox> (its not bios setting)
[08:18] <Xappe> ivanox: apt-get install numlockx
[08:18] <jde> ivanox: You may have to write a small program for it, or search Ubuntu's wiki.
[08:18] <Micksa> why would the "suspend" and "hibernate" options not pop up in the log-out dialog?
[08:18] <Micksa> after fixing /etc/default/acpi-support
[08:18] <dacrepair> bramme:type grub into the root terminal
[08:18] <ivanox> Xappe, thanks alot for that, but why isn't it on by default!?
[08:18] <quidoff> how can I make nvidia-sattings -l load at startup?
[08:19] <HappyFool> quidoff: maybe add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[08:19] <quidoff> nvidia-settings -l, of course ;-)
[08:19] <Bramme> dacrepair, yes ?
[08:19] <AlexMBas> Does anynone here have had problems with OpenOffice 1.1.x and ubuntu?
[08:20] <AlexMBas> on Ubuntu I mean
[08:20] <Bramme> AlexMBas, yes i had, but now i'm using the beta of 2.0
[08:20] <Bramme> you can find it in the universal respo's
[08:20] <Bramme> *repo's
[08:20] <AySink> How are you finding that Bramme? Did much change?
[08:20] <dacrepair> bramme:and then a bash command prompt should appear
[08:20] <Bramme> dacrepair, yes
[08:20] <chombee> Hey - I'm trying to use ndiswrapper, I installed the Windows driver with ndiswrapper -i, I'm now trying to load the kernel module with sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and it's saying operation not permitte
[08:20] <chombee> d
[08:20] <dacrepair> bramme: ithink the command is boot
[08:20] <Bramme> AySink, it's very stable and the UI is thousand times better
[08:20] <quidoff> ok, and where exactly in this file? before :exit 0?
[08:20] <uman> hi all
[08:21] <uman> hi all
[08:21] <AySink> Excellent - may have to check that out later
[08:21] <Bramme> dacrepair, Error 8: Kernel must be loaded before booting
[08:21] <dacrepair> hmmm
[08:21] <Bramme> :(
[08:22] <chombee> theine - I think you mentioned something about this earlier - modprobe doesn't work with the ndiswrapper-utils package?
[08:22] <veronica> Rockett17: thanks sunshine.....i was forgetting the ctrl button
[08:23] <dacrepair> what kind of partition is it
[08:23] <Bramme> dacrepair, what do you mean ?
[08:23] <AlexMBas> Bramme: did it solve your problem? what was your problem?
[08:23] <dacrepair> all of them
[08:23] <Bramme> hda is ext, hda4 is FAT32
[08:24] <Bramme> hda = hda1
[08:24] <dacrepair> alexmbas i cant remember the grub bash syntax for autodetecting your partitions
[08:25] <bartekp> hi
[08:25] <HappyFool> quidoff: yeah, i guess so. no sure what that ':' is for there
[08:25] <quidoff> ok thx, I will test it. Just rebooting
[08:26] <dacrepair> hold on bramme, i'm calling a friend
[08:27] <ka7ana> mkay, got the wireless card working with ndis wrapper, allthought this howto -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926 is the one that worked for me
[08:28] <chombee> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper: Operation not permitted
[08:28] <dacrepair> my best guess is to check gentoo handbooks installation guide
[08:30] <bojan> hallo
[08:30] <crazyhorse> hi
[08:30] <brett> chombee: did you `sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'?
[08:31] <chombee> brett - yeah, and it gives that message, operation not permitted
[08:31] <testt> can someone please paste /etc/fstab in private, I installed ubuntu (had fedora before) and my /home partition is not beeing mounted
[08:31] <bojan> may i ask you a question?
[08:31] <quidoff> hi it didn't work. I put nvidia-settings --load-config-only  at the end of this file, but i didn't load
[08:31] <brett> chombee: apparently it's not uncommon.  But I really don't know why that happens
[08:31] <crazyhorse> bojan, you already did ;)
[08:31] <bojan> :)
[08:32] <bojan> i have installed skype, but if i click it, it does not run
[08:32] <AlexMBas> Thanks Bramme, I'll try Open Office 2
[08:32] <HappyFool> testt: perhaps it would be better if you put your /etc/fstab and the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' up here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:32] <HappyFool> testt: i'll put my fstab up there too, fwiw
[08:32] <crazyhorse> bojan, try starting it via xterm and look at the error message
[08:33] <bojan> ok, thx
[08:33] <testt> HappyFool, I just found out what the problem is.. my /home partition is beeing recognized as a Win95 LFS
[08:33] <testt> damn
[08:33] <testt> Anyway I can fix this?
[08:33] <chombee> brett - a google search reveals a few people who've had it, but no solution. Does anyone know about modprobe ndiswrapper 'giving operation not permitted'?
[08:33] <HappyFool> testt: weird
[08:33] <testt> HappyFool, acctualy this is it  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[08:33] <bojan> ahm ... how can i start it via xterm?
[08:34] <kimo> bojan, type skype!
[08:34] <testt> HappyFool, anyway I can convert it to ext3 without loosing data
[08:34] <testt> I have everything there :0
[08:34] <HappyFool> testt: ah. those are extended partitions -- you should have a /dev/hda5 or something
[08:34] <HappyFool> testt: which is the 'real' partition
[08:34] <bionic> How do i search for installed packages in Ubuntu 5.04?
[08:34] <klaym> how can I apply 'apt-get install' for many applications? I'd like to install all needed multimedia plugins with one command
[08:34] <HappyFool> testt: have you taken a look at 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[08:34] <Kyynara> what is the easiest way to install OpenGL?
[08:35] <bojan> @kimo, that does not work
[08:35] <testt> HappyFool, yup
[08:35] <testt> but
[08:35] <kimo> bojan, open a new terminal
[08:35] <testt> I have another hdd
[08:35] <crazyhorse> bionic, dpkg -l *package*
[08:35] <testt> and that one has hdb5
[08:35] <bionic> crazyhorse, appreciate it, thanks.
[08:35] <bojan> ok, and then?
[08:35] <testt> I don't have hda5
[08:35] <cameron> whoa, it just automatically puts me into the ubuntu help channel
[08:35] <cameron> how did it know?
[08:35] <kimo> bojan, type skype!
[08:35] <Davey> cameron: X-Chat is setup that way :)
[08:35] <theotheo> Can anyone tell me how to update the firefox browser in ubuntu 5.04?
[08:35] <testt> HappyFool, agrhhh I'm blind I ll try smth now Thanks for YOUR HELP!
[08:35] <testt> :)
[08:36] <Davey> theotheo: apt-get install firefix
[08:36] <Davey> theotheo: apt-get install firefox
[08:36] <cameron> well its a wize decision on the part of the ubuntu devs
[08:36] <Davey> actually, its most likely apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[08:36] <cameron> because i have questions
[08:36] <bojan> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:36] <theotheo> o.k. thanks, i'll go for it
[08:36] <kimo> bojan, apt-get install qt3 (or may be qt!)
[08:37] <cameron> so there is a page on the wiki
[08:37] <HappyFool> klaym: why not use synaptic instead ?
[08:37] <cameron> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageHowto
[08:37] <kimo> bojan, or download the static skype version
[08:37] <klaym> happyfool: good question
[08:37] <cameron> and it is telling me to build linux-source-<IP_ADDRESS>, is that version out of date
[08:37] <cameron> ?
[08:37] <bojan> static skype version?
[08:38] <chrissturm> cameron: yep
[08:38] <chrissturm> cameron: 2.6.10-5 is the recent
[08:38] <bojan> jan@ToshibaSatellite:~$ sudo apt-get install qt3
[08:38] <bojan> Reading package lists... Done
[08:38] <bojan> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:38] <bojan> E: Couldn't find package qt3
[08:38] <cameron> so i should sudo apt-get build-dep linux-source-2.6.10-5?
[08:38] <HappyFool> cameron: a lot of the pages are from warty (release 4.10)
[08:38] <kimo> bojan, try apt-get install qt
[08:39] <bojan> bojan@ToshibaSatellite:~$ sudo apt-get install qt
[08:39] <bojan> Reading package lists... Done
[08:39] <bojan> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:39] <bojan> Package qt is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:39] <bojan> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:39] <Hablandocontigo> I followed these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodder?highlight=%28podcast%29 but I get this error: $ /usr/bin/iPodder Traceback (most recent call last):  File "iPodderGui.py", line 18, in ?     import wx ImportError: No module named wx         what could be the problem?
[08:39] <bojan> is only available from another source
[08:39] <bojan> E: Package qt has no installation candidate
[08:39] <cameron> ive only been on linux for like 4 days now
[08:39] <cameron> so
[08:39] <cameron> its crazy to me
[08:39] <chrissturm> camron: why do you want to build a kernel?
[08:39] <zOap> I use 5.04 and want the debian sources as well as the ubuntu ones, to get more software. But when i paste the debian lines in sources.list it gives me error on update, signatures cannot be verified for following keys...
[08:39] <HappyFool> bojan: try 'apt-cache search qt' -- you should see some libqt packages
[08:39] <jde> If you don't know how to use apt than either read the manual or stick with synaptic.
[08:40] <cameron> chrissturm: ive been told that if you compile the kernel, it will be compiled in your comps native code and run somewhat more efficiently
[08:40] <chrissturm> cameron: dont do that
[08:40] <bojan> HappyFool: yes i do
[08:40] <bionic> Hello, i get this when trying to run make menuconfig in the kernel source tree, You must install ncurses-devel in order to run make menuconfig. But theres no such package ncurses-devel. I searched for ncurses packages installed, and there was quite a bunch. Plain Ubuntu 5.04 install.
[08:40] <nalioth> zOap: that is becasuse the debian src repos you are using have no gpg sig on your machine
[08:40] <HappyFool> bojan: i would try libqt3c102, or libqt3c102-mt
[08:40] <fabbione> bionic: apt-get install build-essential libncurses5-dev
[08:40] <chrissturm> cameron: its fine like its now. no need to compile a kernel
[08:41] <bojan> HappyFool: what do you mean with try?
[08:41] <chombee> How do I check the system log? (dmesg is telling me to check it for errors)
[08:41] <chrissturm> fabbione: do you have an idea why automounting doesnt work with the breezy kernel?
[08:41] <GuBA> Hello, i need a problem in my Ubuntu Hoary ... :'(
[08:41] <cameron> chrissturm: well allright, i have other more important things to work on like wifi drivers i guess....
[08:41] <mindspin> :-)
[08:41] <fabbione> chrissturm: what version .12??
[08:41] <HappyFool> bojan: i mean try to install one of those and see if skype then works ;)
[08:41] <levander> GuBA: there are plenty of problems in hoary, just start looking around
[08:42] <cameron> Thanks guys!
[08:42] <bojan> HappyFool: ok, how can i install them?
[08:42] <bionic> fabbione, thank you
[08:42] <chrissturm> fabbione, the latest 12 package.
[08:42] <fabbione> bionic: welcome
[08:42] <HappyFool> bionic: try libncurses5-dev
[08:42] <fabbione> chrissturm: no. i don't sorry.
[08:42] <HappyFool> bojan: 'sudo apt-get install libqt3c102'
[08:42] <bionic> trying :)
[08:42] <fabbione> chrissturm: let's wait 12 final before making too much noise upstream
[08:42] <fabbione> chrissturm: this is still 12rc6
[08:42] <fabbione> and i saw quite a big bunch of net fixes
[08:43] <GuBA> levander, see my error --> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/111
[08:43] <zOap> noone knows why apt-get dont wanna let me add debian sources to sources list?
[08:43] <chrissturm> fabbione, i know. i just would like to work with/on beagle, and for that i would need a newer inotify
[08:43] <bojan> HappyFool: and then skype should work?
[08:43] <HappyFool> zOap: nalioth told you
[08:43] <HappyFool> bojan: i don't know, i don't use it
[08:43] <fabbione> chrissturm: i uploaded 1.2 today with the latest inotify
[08:43] <fabbione> chrissturm: it's probably going around on the mirrors
[08:43] <zOap> HappyFool, didnt see that...
[08:43] <fabbione> chrissturm: also.. check the changelog before asking
[08:44] <HappyFool> bojan: and the wiki's been rearranged so i can't easily find stuff like this
[08:44] <chombee> Installed ndis drivers: lsbcmnds invalid driver!
[08:44] <chrissturm> fabbione, you mean a .10 kernel with new inotify?
[08:44] <zOap> nalioth, ok, what sources should i use then? or how do i add this key?
[08:45] <bionic> When i download the linux-source-2.6.10 from synaptic, is the .config file the same that ubuntu 5.04 used?
[08:45] <bojan> HappyFool: it works!!! thank you very much. you're the best
[08:45] <fabbione> chrissturm: there will be no .10 with new inotify
[08:45] <HappyFool> bojan: no problem ;)
[08:45] <fabbione> chrissturm: breezy = .12
[08:45] <HappyFool> bionic: i think the .config is in /boot
[08:46] <HappyFool> bionic: e.g., i have /boot/config-2.6.10-5-386
[08:46] <quidoff> HappyFool: do you also have a good idea for my problem. writing nvidia-settings --load-config-only after the exit 0 didn't work
[08:46] <bionic> HappyFool, yeah it was there thanks, i can use that when i compile the new kernel ?
[08:46] <chrissturm> fabbione, i thought so. thats why i want to use the .12 kernel and thats why its so sad that automount doenst work with it. thanks for clearing that up.
[08:46] <fabbione> chrissturm: no problem
[08:47] <brett> chombee: have you tried running everything (carefully) thru a root-terminal?
[08:47] <chombee> brett - why? I was using sudo?
[08:47] <zOap> does anyone have a working sources.list for 5.04 with debian sources?
[08:47] <HappyFool> quidoff: obviously i wasn't paying attention earlier -- it must come before the exit statement
[08:48] <chrissturm> z0ap: such a thing doesnt exist
[08:48] <brett> chombee: just a thought is all ;]
[08:48] <zaphod> someone suggest a good RSS feedreader
[08:48] <HappyFool> bionic: i'm not sure -- i think there's a kernel build howto on the wiki
[08:48] <HappyFool> !kernel
[08:48] <ivanox> Mozilla SAge
[08:48] <Hablandocontigo> I followed these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodder?highlight=%28podcast%29 but I get this error: $ /usr/bin/iPodder Traceback (most recent call last):  File "iPodderGui.py", line 18, in ?     import wx ImportError: No module named wx         what could be the problem?
[08:48] <ivanox> zaphod, Mozilla Sage
[08:48] <zOap> chrissturm, why? I need to get debian sources, and any other deiratives works fine with debian sources. Why not ubuntu?
[08:48] <brett> zaphod: Liferea isn't horrible
[08:48] <ivanox> now u suggest me something fun to put on my desktop
[08:49] <chrissturm> z0ap: all debian stuff is in universe/multiverse
[08:49] <chrissturm> z0ap: so you dont need it
[08:49] <zOap> ok
[08:49] <zaphod> how is RSSowl? it is a java app
[08:49] <zaphod> and how about straw?
[08:49] <frit> como he k altero a resoluao de 640*480 para 1280*1024
[08:50] <kimo> any non official kernels with swsusp2 ?
[08:50] <Kyynara> How do I check if I have a working OpenGL?
[08:50] <HappyFool> frit: sorry, this is an english channel
[08:51] <Hablandocontigo> Kyynara: glxinfo | grep direct
[08:51] <Hablandocontigo> Kyynara: if it says yes, you're okay
[08:51] <chombee> brett - tried, same result
[08:52] <brett> chombee: it causes problems later on with updating linux-image (kernel) packages, but you may need to compile ndiswrapper from source
[08:52] <kimo> any way to add swsusp2 ??
[08:54] <chombee> brett - I'm going to try another card, D-Link DWL-650+, it is detected at wlan0 but seems unsupported, ifup does not activate it
[08:55] <Kyynara> Hablandocontigo: I have a strong feeling that this is not what I want http://pastebin.com/301045 :)
[08:56] <othernoob> how come amarok doesn't play .wav files?
[08:56] <brett> chombee: good luck to you!
[08:58] <Hablandocontigo> Kyynara: I don't think it is either, I've had that before
[08:58] <Howitzer> please help me at #flood :(
[08:59] <Hablandocontigo> Kyynara: you know what's funnier, I just did glxinfo and have the same thing
[08:59] <Hablandocontigo> Kyynara: I'ma try to fix it right now and tell you what worked for me
[08:59] <Kyynara> Hablandocontigo: that would be great, thansk
[08:59] <Kyynara> *thanks
[08:59] <HappyFool> Howitzer: i'm there.. what's the problem?
[09:01] <Funraiser> Is Linux For Losers? http://www.forbes.com/business/businesstech/2005/06/16/linux-bsd-unix-cz_dl_0616theo.html
[09:02] <dsevilla> argh
[09:02] <JDigital> it's not for losers because I use lunix and I am awesome
[09:02] <dsevilla> keyboard is not working again in breezy :(
[09:02] <chrissturm> dsevilla, yep
[09:02] <chrissturm> :(
[09:02] <Chameleon22> dsevilla, yet you are typing
[09:02] <dsevilla> xkbcomp is somewhat failing to load
[09:02] <Chameleon22> :p
[09:03] <dsevilla> Chameleon22, hehe, yeah, it is not working *properly* :)
[09:03] <majorb> i hva e a syslog question, is this an ok place to ask it ?
[09:03] <concept10> Funraiser, why have you been posting that link all day?
[09:03] <Funraiser> that proves that linux is gaining some momemtum
[09:03] <dsevilla> my keymap falls back to us, but I have an spanish (es) keywboard
[09:03] <JDigital> yeah, Linux isn't perfect
[09:03] <jobli> l
[09:03] <dsevilla> chrissturm, you know what the problem is?
[09:03] <Hablandocontigo> Kyynara: okay, do you have an nvidia graphics card?
[09:03] <chrissturm> dsevilla, dunno how to fix it
[09:03] <Funraiser> concept10, all day? what are u talking about? it's the second time, nobody answered on the first time so i reposted!
[09:03] <chombee> Does anyone know of an easy way to install the acx100 driver for wireless cards?
[09:04] <Kyynara> Hablandocontigo: yes
[09:04] <dsevilla> chrissturm, or when it will be fixed?
[09:04] <chrissturm> dsevilla, i think it will soon be fixed
[09:04] <cazabam> chombee: I just put the card in and it worked ?
[09:04] <dsevilla> chrissturm, thanks :)
[09:04] <blacktooth> JDigital:  World too
[09:04] <dsevilla> chrissturm, that makes me less nervous :)
[09:04] <JDigital> s'true
[09:04] <Hablandocontigo> Kyynara: lucky you, this may work: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver it worked for me
[09:04] <JDigital> at least Ubuntu is improving gradually
[09:04] <chombee> cazabam - that didn't happen for me, D-Link DWL-650+
[09:05] <cazabam> chombee: hehe, same card too! what did happen?
[09:05] <mz2> could somebody copy & paste me /etc/polypaudio/defaults.pa
[09:05] <mz2> i did a bit of erasing magic :)
[09:05] <HappyFool> heh
[09:05] <dsevilla> I don't know what's happening with xkbcomp. Is also failing in amd64 too
[09:06] <JDigital> Amiga was pretty good as a desktop OS, but was tied to the hardware, and when that hardware went outdated and sank, the OS went down with the ship
[09:06] <JDigital> meanwhile all the other OSs were being developed and improved
[09:06] <chombee> cazabam - the card is detected as wlan0 but is not activated, ifup tries to dhcp it but the lights on the card aren't on and it doesn't succeed
[09:06] <blacktooth> mz2:  awesome
[09:06] <dsevilla> chrissturm, ok, it's nice to see that is not a problem of myself only. Every non-us keyboard using breezy is failing
[09:06] <dsevilla> it will be fixed surely fast :)
[09:07] <cazabam> chombee: in that case the driver is loaded and it's just not finding your router or access point
[09:07] <chrissturm> dsevilla: i have a german keyboard, but my national characters dont work
[09:07] <chrissturm> but the layout is still german
[09:07] <blacktooth> chrissturm:  key map?
[09:07] <dsevilla> chrissturm, yeah the same for me in spanish
[09:07] <chombee> cazabam - I don't think so, the dhcp wireless router is there, the lights on the wireless card are not coming on, there's a link light and a pwr light
[09:08] <chrissturm> blacktooth, ?
[09:08] <blacktooth> chrissturm:  key map problem...
[09:08] <dsevilla> blacktooth, it's not a problem of keymap, but of xkbcomp failing
[09:08] <cazabam> chombee: at a terminal, do: iwlist wlan0 scanning
[09:08] <blacktooth> chrissturm:  oh
[09:08] <blacktooth> chrissturm:  sorry -_-|||
[09:08] <cazabam> chombee: and iwconfig wlan0
[09:09] <Kyynara> Hablandocontigo: it didn't work for me
[09:09] <chrissturm> it seems to be a libxklavier error
[09:09] <cazabam> chombee: just to see what it can see
[09:09] <chombee> cazabam - okay, the scan completed, and it gives some info
[09:09] <chombee> cazabam - it has detected the name of our router
[09:09] <chombee> cazabam - cou;d it have gone through the wired connection to get that?
[09:10] <dsevilla> chrissturm, yeah, maybe
[09:10] <cazabam> chombee: no, the iw* tools only do wireless - so it can see the router
[09:11] <cazabam> chombee: check to make sure that the router doesn't require WEP or a specific MAC - open that thing up for the world :)
[09:11] <nate> Hey can anybody tell me where to locate the "system log" ??
[09:11] <Mwnci> i have a script i wrote that configures and connects the wireless card if i type ./wirelessup.sh into the console.  I tried adding a link to it in the kde menu but it doesnt seem to work. i have wirelessup.sh in the command   /home/jaffa/ in the work path  and run in terminal selected. all that happens is it opens a blank terminal and does nothing. any ideas?
[09:12] <SFalcon> Dual booting XP/Ubuntu on a RAID0 S-ATA Array.  Possible?
[09:12] <crazyhorse> nate, /var/log/syslog
[09:13] <nate> crazyhorse: Do you know how long the log is kept and what all it logs?
[09:13] <crazyhorse> nate, once per day the log gets rotated, the older logs are named syslog.0, syslog.1 etc and are gzipped
[09:14] <nate> ok so would glitches from my nvidia drivers show up there?
[09:14] <Prawntasm> My eth0 won't configure itself with DHCP. I've followed the instructions in the FAQ, but when I choose "DHCP" for my eth0 and click ok, it just shows the configuring window ticking away until I close it
[09:14] <crazyhorse> afair are they kept one week by default
[09:14] <redboar> does ne1 know when hdparm will support SATA?
[09:14] <nate> crazyhorse: so nvidia driver problems would be in there too?
[09:15] <likkashot> im fixing those to
[09:15] <chombee> cazabam - woot! now what do we do? this other laptop I'm typing on is working fine through wireless
[09:15] <Prawntasm> I'm running off a knoppix cd right now, but I can't get any networking on my ubuntu installation :(
[09:15] <likkashot> this 64 system installs fast
[09:15] <chombee> cazabam - it doesn't, just DHCP
[09:16] <crazyhorse> nate, nvidia uh..perhaps i can help you with that issue
[09:16] <Kyynara> just to be sure... if I'm to download drivers from nvidias homepage, it should be linuxIA64 or LinuxIA32?
[09:16] <likkashot> chombee im listening to
[09:16] <nate> crazyhorse: feel free to take a look http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=632521#post632521
[09:16] <crazyhorse> Kyynara, unless you are on an athlon64, its IA32
[09:16] <Kyynara> ok
[09:17] <likkashot> im i install the x86_64 drivers can i use amd64 k8 kernel??
[09:17] <cazabam> chombee: have you configured which network you want it to point at?
[09:17] <cazabam> likkashot: you having similar problems?
[09:18] <AySink> Hey all - has anyone here managed to successfully get PHP5 working, from source, on Ubuntu? I followed the two wiki pages on it, and it's built and installed just fine but when I try to access a PHP page I get "child pid xxxx exit signal Segmentation fault" in Apache2/errors.log.
[09:18] <crazyhorse> nate, which nvidia version do you have?
[09:19] <nate> crazyhorse: I'm using the 7174 right now...but it does it will all the 7xxx series.
[09:19] <nate> crazyhorse: never had this problem with the 6629
[09:20] <crazyhorse> nate, mh, what about downgrading to 6629?
[09:20] <nate> I don't know how :(
[09:20] <nate> Is it anything like upgrading to the 7664 ?
[09:20] <holycow> hey guys, whats the general scoop on digital cameras and linux?  do most of them get mounted as block devices when plugged into usb port?
[09:21] <nate> holycow: mine works that way....not bad either
[09:21] <cazabam> holycow: all decent cameras do. the little 'webcam' style ones tend not to
[09:21] <TheMole> hey guys, maybe it's just me but I've added all the repositories (uni/multiverse) and still can't find w32codecs/libdvdcss/azureus etc...
[09:21] <crazyhorse> nate, for that you would need to uninstall the ubuntu package and compile the module by yourself but wait, the 6xxx aren't compliant with 2.6.10... mh
[09:21] <holycow> okay thats awesome, don't need to worry about models and makes too much then?
[09:21] <simone> Hi... did my first ubuntu install ever. First experience with debian ... very limited experience with Mandrake Linux. I tried to run an AVI- file but got the following message: Totem could not play file due to missing decoders. What should I do?
[09:21] <holycow> *nod* on webcam dealies
[09:22] <HappyFool> TheMole: for those i think you might need backports. Take a lookt at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or ubuntuguide.org for more
[09:22] <holycow> simone, go the ubuntu website, search for w32codecs ... download that first
[09:22] <holycow> simone, second remove totem-gstreamer and install totem-xine
[09:22] <HappyFool> simone: take a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:22] <nate> crazyhorse: ya and I don't really want to go back to the 2.6.9 kernel...I had a lot of problems on that kernel
[09:22] <TheMole> I assume there is no backports repo for breezy?
[09:22] <cazabam> holycow: as long as you go for the 'big' makes (olympus, fuji, kodak, etc...)
[09:22] <holycow> those two steps will get you playing most video streams
[09:22] <crazyhorse> nate, sure
[09:23] <holycow> cazabam, neato, thank you
[09:23] <crazyhorse> nate, that's why proprietary drivers suck :/
[09:23] <cazabam> holycow: no probs
[09:24] <nate> crazyhorse: ya true.. this sucks the 7664 drivers got me about 20fps more in CS:S too
[09:24] <dsevilla> mmm... also, if you dist-upgrade breezy, amule get's removed
[09:24] <dsevilla> any workarounds for that?
[09:24] <simone> Thanks holycow
[09:24] <holycow> simone, no worreis
[09:25] <crazyhorse> okay, i really need some breakfast now ;)
[09:25] <cazabam> dsevilla: reinstall after upgrade? failing that don't upgrade to breezy on a production machine!
[09:26] <quidoff> ok I know that I'm n00b, but how can I load a command at startup?
[09:27] <nate> crazyhorse: I guess I'm screwed?
[09:27] <HappyFool> quidoff: bootmisc.sh not working?
[09:27] <eb0x> Can someone help me with a terminal problem?
[09:28] <cazabam> eb0x: sounds serious!
[09:28] <eb0x> When I open my terminal, it doesn't come up with a place that I can type
[09:28] <eb0x> The place that's normally white where i can type is all black
[09:28] <AySink> Hey all - has anyone here managed to successfully get PHP5 working, from source, on Ubuntu? I followed the two wiki pages on it, and it's built and installed just fine but when I try to access a PHP page I get "child pid xxxx exit signal Segmentation fault" in Apache2/errors.log.
[09:28] <cazabam> is that gnome-terminal?
[09:28] <eb0x> ya
[09:28] <TheMole> quidoff: startup as in as ubuntu boots, or as in when you get into Gnome/KDE?
[09:29] <dsevilla> cazabam, yeah :) I won't use breezy for that
[09:29] <dsevilla> cazabam, just playing
[09:29] <cazabam> dsevilla: :)
[09:29] <HappyFool> TheMole: re ubuntu backports -- see ubuntuguide.org
[09:29] <eb0x> candyban: Ya it's gnome-terminal
[09:29] <eb0x> er
[09:29] <eb0x> cazabam*
[09:30] <nate> oh heres a good questions for someone....why can't I install Crossover Office?  It gives me an error
[09:30] <blacktooth> HappyFool:  ubuntu backport?
[09:30] <dsevilla> nate, haha, nice
[09:30] <dsevilla> now you have an error
[09:30] <blacktooth> HappyFool:  amazing
[09:31] <HappyFool> blacktooth: unofficial, afaik
[09:31] <nate> "$HOME" must exist and belong to you in order for the installation to proceed. You may need to log in as root or use su rather than sudo
[09:31] <HappyFool> blacktooth: and occasionally breaks things
[09:31] <zyth> nate: so open a root terminal
[09:31] <nate> ok watch the error it'll give me as root....lol
[09:31] <cazabam> eb0x: hehe I'm just trying to remember I heard about a problem with gnome-terminal
[09:31] <quidoff> @HappyFool: No bootmisc.sh didnt' work. I put nvidia-settings --load-config-only one line under exit 0 but it didn't load
[09:31] <blacktooth> HappyFool:  @@|||
[09:31] <som1> i used apt-get to get the new kernel. it seems i cant run kernel now (cant open dev/console). what can i do?
[09:31] <HappyFool> nate: try 'sudo -H <command>'
[09:31] <HappyFool> quidoff: it must come *before* exit
[09:32] <eb0x> cazabam: Oh
[09:32] <HappyFool> quidoff: 'exit 0' exits the script
[09:32] <som1> i was pretty sure it worked before so i didnt jump to this..
[09:32] <som1> hi happyfool :0
[09:32] <som1> :)
[09:32] <nate> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server    /   Xlib: No protocol specified
[09:32] <blacktooth> (o really)
[09:32] <HappyFool> evening som1
[09:33] <poningru> are we turning into the gentoo people now?
[09:33] <eb0x> cazabam: What terminal do you use?
[09:33] <nate> Same error with the sudo -H command too
[09:34] <quidoff> ok I put nvidia-settings --load-config-only before exit 0   testing... rebooting... will be back in some mintes
[09:34] <Invis> Hello, is there any debs for any good C++ IDEs?
[09:35] <HappyFool> nate: well, one way to get it to work might be to enable the root user and login as root. not sure if there's an alternative
[09:35] <Cooner750> Hi
[09:35] <HappyFool> som1: how did you upgrade your kernel, and how does is your system broken now?
[09:35] <nate> aight how do I enable the root user?
[09:36] <nate> lol never needed it before really except on my FC3 box
[09:36] <Invis> I wrote some code in c that uses gtk2 libs, but when i try to compile it it says that i need those gtk libs even they are installed, any problem sollution?
[09:36] <maruchan> any tips in getting avidemux installed
[09:36] <HappyFool> nate: 'sudo passwd' -- and enter some password for root
[09:36] <nate> did that already
[09:36] <som1> HappyFool: me starting ubuntu, kernel panic (pivot_root: No such file or directory, /sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: No such file)
[09:37] <zyth> som1, shouldn't it be /dev/console ?
[09:37] <som1> im just saying what it wrote to me
[09:37] <HappyFool> ok, now you need to login as root -- either logout and login, or use Applications -> System Tools -> New login
[09:37] <zyth> Rockett17, it's the Canadian Red Cross... they've hardly got a stellar rep of late in general ;)
[09:37] <Rockett17> too true
[09:38] <holycow> Rockett17, what do they use? exchange?
[09:38] <Rockett17> yeah
[09:38] <holycow> *giggle*
[09:38] <holycow> that should be good
[09:38] <zyth> it's 12:37 on a friday here, and I'm still unemployed.... gotta love living in a small town!
[09:38] <Rockett17> and they're big thin client people
[09:38] <zyth> so everything is central
[09:38] <Rockett17> everything runs on a TS session
[09:38] <zyth> heh
[09:38] <quidoff> hm. didn't work
[09:38] <HappyFool> som1: hmm. you used apt-get or synaptic to do the kernel upgrade?
[09:38] <zyth> if one goes down.. bewm
[09:38] <som1> oh. i think it was synpatic
[09:38] <Rockett17> we have about 40 of them :)
[09:38] <quidoff> maybe I have to put the path before the command
[09:39] <zyth> Rockett17, harsh, lol
[09:39] <som1> i think i puked more than my whole stomach
[09:39] <maruchan> any tips in getting avidemux installed, it wont isntall
[09:39] <som1> interesting.
[09:39] <holycow> *sigh*
[09:39] <Kyynara> hmm... I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers from ww.nvidia.com but it wants to know the kernel-source tree, how do I give the kernel source to it?
[09:39] <holycow> i can't believe people keep on using windows
[09:39] <Rockett17> and here is sit.. secure shell'd into my nix server at home and on the ubuntu channel
[09:39] <Rockett17> :D
[09:39] <crazyhorse> lol *using* windows =)
[09:39] <HappyFool> quidoff: did you see any errors on boot?
[09:39] <Rockett17> yep yep
[09:39] <zyth> holycow, hey, I have a nice, 100% stable windows server here.  It doesn't DO anything.  But it's up. ;)
[09:40] <som1> Kyynara - to save you the trouble, use the linux packages
[09:40] <abbot45> can someone help me edit my xorg.conf file so i can get my resolution right?
[09:40] <som1> i mean ubuntu
[09:40] <som1> sorry
[09:40] <HappyFool> Kyynara: you probably need a linux-headers-* package, like linux-headers-386 or -686 or -k7 -- depending on your kernel image
[09:40] <poningru> abbot45: whats wrong?
[09:40] <HappyFool> som1: and there were no errors during the upgrade?
[09:40] <quidoff> hm sry I didn't watch. I just returned and saw that nvidia-settings hadn't load
[09:40] <Kyynara> HappyFool: thanks
[09:40] <som1> no happyfool
[09:41] <som1> i dont think there was anything
[09:41] <som1> im pretty sure i rebooted after it
[09:41] <likkashot> Grrrr nvidia mobo giving me headaches
[09:41] <cazabam> happyfool kyynara: last time I installed the Nvidia drivers from the site, they said they wanted a 'configured' kernel tree!
[09:41] <likkashot> oh me to
[09:41] <likkashot> grrr
[09:41] <abbot45> poningru, i just need to add vertical & horizontal refresh rates i believe, but i dont remember how i need to edit the file.
[09:41] <cazabam> nforce is a headache and an a**eache at the same time
[09:41] <likkashot> forgot the command
[09:41] <som1> last time i was there, it wanted runlevel 3
[09:41] <HappyFool> cazabam: for most modules you should only need linux-headers-* -- it has the config info for the kernel image
[09:42] <likkashot> no precompiled kernel
[09:42] <poningru> hold on abbot45
[09:42] <ubuntu> Just loaded the live CD for the first time. Is there a way to access the C: drive (fat32)
[09:43] <likkashot> I did a apt-get blabla k7 last night and it worked
[09:43] <likkashot> whats the blabla I dont remember
[09:43] <ka7ana> ubotu, mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt/win1
[09:43] <ubotu> ka7ana: Are you smoking crack?
[09:44] <ka7ana> ubotu, nope
[09:44] <ubotu> ka7ana: Wish i knew
[09:44] <som1> likkashot, what did you install yesterday?
[09:44] <HappyFool> ubuntu: look maybe in Places -> Computer; maybe it's there. otherwise use ka7ana command
[09:44] <HappyFool> ka7ana: (ubotu's a bot, in case you don't know ;)
[09:44] <Rockett17>  likkashot>
[09:44] <ka7ana> i noticed
[09:44] <Rockett17> woops
[09:44] <Rockett17> iggy that likka :)
[09:45] <likkashot> the precompiled kernel and stuff u need to install the nvidia drivers
[09:45] <ubuntu> Thx Ka7ana !
[09:45] <ka7ana> :P
[09:45] <likkashot> but I keep reinstalling and not backing up
[09:45] <likkashot> nice
[09:45] <likkashot> hahah
[09:45] <ka7ana> my first experiences with Linux in 1998 were discovering the magic of mount :P
[09:46] <HappyFool> likkashot: image is linux-image-386, headers for module compiles are linux-headers-386 (or -686, -k7, whatever)
[09:46] <som1> use the ubuntu packages
[09:46] <som1> likkashot, use the ubuntu packages
[09:46] <likkashot> i got those already
[09:46] <som1> uh
[09:46] <som1> change modules and the x config file
[09:46] <lukus001> can somone help me with my ubuntu or is this not the right type of place? =P
[09:46] <som1> yes its the right place lukus001
[09:47] <HappyFool> lukus001: this is the right place
[09:47] <lukus001> i cant install anything.. terminal say no file or directory even for sudo -s -H
[09:47] <HappyFool> som1: unfortunately i'm not sure what you can do to fix your system
[09:47] <som1> yeah, ill make my friend happy and install bsd
[09:48] <KaOs> Anyone know some good repositries for misc apps like Amatur stuff.. ?
[09:48] <Kyynara> HappyFool: it didn't work with the header files...
[09:48] <KaOs> Amateur *
[09:48] <synd_> KaOs: amateur stuff?
[09:48] <hband> hi, please check this band: www.gabor13.com do you like it?
[09:48] <ka7ana> som1, i use bsd
[09:49] <KaOs> Amateur Radio
[09:49] <lukus001> anyone know how i can get java and stuff to install... the example in the documentation not to mention forums dont work
[09:49] <Kyynara> but it also says I can give the kernel-source with the --kernel-source-[something]  command, know anything about that?
[09:49] <synd_> lukus001: www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:49] <synd_> ubotu
[09:49] <HappyFool> Kyynara: what does the output of 'uname -r' say ?
[09:50] <HappyFool> Kyynara: and what headers package did you install ?
[09:50] <kcburyshaker> is it just me  or is gdesklets a POS
[09:50] <lukus001> synd ive followed that website i just get no directory or file errors
[09:50] <kcburyshaker> i cant get nothing in gdesklets to run
[09:50] <synd_> lukus001: ?
[09:50] <synd_> kcburyshaker: did you install it from the apt?
[09:50] <Kyynara> uname -r gave me this: 2.6.10-5-386
[09:50] <kcburyshaker> ya
[09:50] <lukus001> i've followed the guide to install java on that website, i just get "no such file or directory"
[09:51] <Kyynara> and the headers i installed were for 386
[09:51] <kcburyshaker> no wait  installed from terminal
[09:51] <synd_> kcburyshaker: ive had troubles with gdesklets as well
[09:51] <kcburyshaker> using that help guide
[09:51] <HappyFool> Kyynara: hrm
[09:51] <Cooner750> brb. updating
[09:51] <kcburyshaker> it isnt very important to me  just a  nice thing to have
[09:51] <synd_> kcburyshaker: i just went with the more recent version available on the gdesklets site
[09:51] <kcburyshaker> ahhhh
[09:51] <synd_> and it works for me
[09:51] <Kyynara> HappyFool: you may specify the kernel source path with the
[09:51] <Kyynara>        '--kernel-source-path' commandline option.
[09:51] <kcburyshaker> oh well   no biggie
[09:52] <synd_> kcburyshaker: you could cry gkrellm
[09:52] <pepsi> x is broken in breezy again :D i got it working, but its still very angry at me :)
[09:52] <Kyynara> that's what it says in the log file... nvidia-installer.log
[09:52] <kcburyshaker> i have no idea how to install anything on linux manually
[09:52] <kcburyshaker> gkrellm?
[09:52] <synd_> kcburyshaker: thats also available in the apt, ive had good success with it. it seems to be more stable/organized
[09:52] <synd_> kcburyshaker: yes
[09:52] <kcburyshaker> where would that be in synaptic
[09:53] <ka7ana> most of the shit is not in synaptic
[09:53] <ka7ana> apt-get is your friend
[09:53] <HappyFool> Kyynara: hmm. just a moment
[09:53] <ka7ana> check www.debian.org
[09:53] <Prawntasm> My computer seems to associate eth0 with my 8139too at bootup, but dhclient broadcasts a bunch of DHCPDISCOVERs and never gets anything back. Any ideas?
[09:53] <Prawntasm> ifconfig
[09:53] <synd_> ka7ana: whatevers in synaptic is avail from apt get and vice versa
[09:53] <lukus001> anyone know why i getting "no such file or directory" with every terminal code... "sudo -s -H" followed by my password generate the same error... =(
[09:54] <synd_> ka7ana: they retrieve from the same sources.list
[09:55] <HappyFool> lukus001: 'sudo -s -H' does not work at all?
[09:55] <lukus001> not at all
[09:55] <lukus001> im getting no such file or directory, even with copy and pasted code from ubuntuguide.org
[09:55] <ka7ana> synd, wow i had the impression that only a few packages were available fia synaptic :P
[09:55] <synd_> kcburyshaker: for beginners, Synaptic is fine.
[09:55] <synd_> ka7ana: no, theres quite a few in there.
[09:55] <HappyFool> lukus001: if the error is a single line, can you cut and paste it here
[09:56] <lukus001> /bin/bash: kangaroo: No such file or directory
[09:57] <zyth> has anyone taken the comptia Linux+ certification?
[09:57] <HappyFool> lukus001: what command do you type? 'sudo -s -H kangaroo' ?
[09:57] <lukus001> wrong line
[09:57] <lukus001> no it asked for my password after..
[09:57] <lukus001> then returnde that
[09:57] <kcburyshaker> synd  thanks   i installed gkrellm
[09:57] <lukus001> ill do it on the failed java attem code
[09:57] <kbrooks> lukus001, ls -l /bin/sh
[09:57] <HappyFool> lukus001: what's exact command you typed to get that error?
[09:58] <kbrooks> does it link to anything else? because if it doesn't, you probably removed a package
[09:58] <lukus001> i typed sudo -s -H kangaroo
[09:59] <HappyFool> lukus001: what is 'kangaroo' ?
[09:59] <xirtam> when i run apt-get update i get an GPG-error: W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or directory
[09:59] <xirtam> any ideas about that?
[09:59] <lukus001> password?
[09:59] <synd_> kcburyshaker: no problem
[09:59] <HappyFool> lukus001: oh
[09:59] <HappyFool> lukus001: no, it will prompt you for a password
[09:59] <lukus001> i asumed you had to add it on the end because adding after does nout
[09:59] <synd_> kcburyshaker: there are quite a few plugins avail thru synaptic as well. just type "gkrellm" in the search field.
[09:59] <HappyFool> lukus001: oh right
[10:00] <HappyFool> lukus001: if you've entered the password 'recently', it won't ask again
[10:00] <HappyFool> lukus001: only enter a password if asked for one, in other words
[10:00] <lukus001> okay
[10:00] <kcburyshaker> thats what i did
[10:00] <kcburyshaker> trying to find where it installed to in the menu
[10:01] <HappyFool> Kyynara: let's try this: --kernel-source-path=/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build
[10:01] <lukus001> well.. i follwed the code to install sun-j2re1.5
[10:01] <lukus001> it say cant find package now
[10:01] <lukus001> so thats progress
[10:01] <lukus001> how do i make it find it :s
[10:01] <xirtam> when i run apt-get update i get an GPG-error: W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or directory ... any ideas?
[10:02] <linuxfan> hello
[10:02] <linuxfan> can anyone help me
[10:02] <HappyFool> lukus001: i'm afraid i'm not familiar with installing java. have you added the 'backports' repositories that ubuntuguide.org recommends ?
[10:02] <likkashot> yoo
[10:02] <lukus001> is that the one where it get you to add a few urls then run apt get?
[10:02] <linuxfan> How can I install PHP and MySQL? (i alrady have apache web server)
[10:02] <linuxfan> For Ubuntu
[10:02] <HappyFool> lukus001: yeah
[10:02] <lukus001> i done that
[10:03] <Invis> why when i run programs from command line xserver rejects them?
[10:03] <lukus001> that worked
[10:03] <HappyFool> linuxfan: use Synaptic and search for php and mysql (System -> Administration -> synaptic)
[10:03] <linuxfan> ok, thank u
[10:03] <lukus001> but it still doesnt find the "package"
[10:03] <HappyFool> lukus001: let me just look at the ubuntuguide instructions... one sec
[10:03] <lukus001> ok, thank you
[10:04] <HappyFool> lukus001: you have run 'sudo apt-get update', right?
[10:04] <lukus001> yeah, ill do it again now though
[10:05] <lukus001> and now thats all done
[10:05] <husher> does ubuntu have some centralized package repository (like gentoo's portage, for example)?
[10:05] <HappyFool> lukus001: can you paste your sources.list here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:05] <HappyFool> husher: there is a package management system (apt) -- not sure what portage is
[10:06] <HappyFool> husher: try 'man apt-get' and maybe 'man dpkg' -- and also Synaptic (gui for all this): System -> Admin -> Synaptic
[10:06] <klaym> how do I set my icons from a certain size to another?
[10:06] <husher> HappyFool: it's a lot like apt; i was really looking for some kind of browsable package database
[10:06] <jbroome> synaptic will let you browse and search available programs/packages
[10:06] <HappyFool> husher: maybe packages.ubuntu.com -- otherwise synaptic is .. err. browsablish. or aptitude
[10:07] <husher> HappyFool: i'm considering a switch from Gentoo, but I'd like to see a list of packages first
[10:07] <lukus001> ok done tha i think
[10:07] <HappyFool> lukus001: do you have an URL for me ?
[10:07] <HappyFool> lukus001: i.e., where you ended up after the paste
[10:08] <lukus001> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/113 right
[10:08] <HappyFool> lukus001: yip
[10:08] <Trix> hello I am currently user of gentoo distribution but I was thinking of giving Ubuntu a try
[10:09] <Trix> so I am windering a few things
[10:09] <Trix> wondering...
[10:09] <amrietta3> hi