[07:53] <shiester_miester> bruenig, true, true.  I'm usually paying attention between bursts of work
[07:53] <MajorPayne> oxigen: type df.
[07:54] <oxeimon> ryuk: Thing is, I still don't know what hd0 is
[07:54] <Tones> sounds like hard work :P
[07:54] <LogicalDash> ryuk and oxeimon, when I did something similar, gnome partition editor worked ok
[07:54] <MajorPayne> oxigen: In the shell.  That will tell you where it is being mounted.
[07:54] <sumigamer_> when I install the kiba dock deb package, it tells me to first install  the kiba plugins palckage. when i install the kiba-plugins package, it tells me to install the kiba dock pakage!!! What the heck is this??
[07:54] <LogicalDash> n/m
[07:54] <ryuk> that just refs to the first partion on the hdd (the mbr)
[07:54] <bruenig> shiester_miester, yeah that is true here too, I spend a lot of time working on zenwalk stuff
[07:54] <shiester_miester> bruenig, working as in, employment working?
[07:55] <bruenig> shiester_miester, work as in volunteer
[07:55] <shiester_miester> ah ok
[07:55] <oxeimon> so hd0 is fine then?
[07:55] <code_eater> sumigamer, check version, maybe he is asking bout proper version of package
[07:55] <shiester_miester> i meant employment :P
[07:55] <ryuk> i think
[07:55] <TheNo1Yeti> tripwire --check | cat >> ~/tripwire    <-- That should output the data that would be appended to my screen to the file tripwire instead right?
[07:55] <bruenig> shiester_miester, ha why would I do that
[07:55] <ryuk> if i could get vmware up and running properly i would tell ya..
[07:55] <shiester_miester> bruenig, lol!  to get money?  same reason i do it :P
[07:55] <bruenig> shiester_miester, how old are you
[07:55] <Tones> work is overated :P
[07:55] <oxeimon> what's vmware/how do I get it
[07:55] <shiester_miester> although there isnt much money in what im doing at the moment
[07:56] <oxeimon> remember I don't have access to the internet on that computer lol
[07:56] <TheNo1Yeti> !vmware > oxeimon
[07:56] <oxeimon> world > oxeimon
[07:56] <shiester_miester> emphasis on SMALL
[07:56] <TheNo1Yeti> !vmware
[07:56] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:56] <shiester_miester> atm its just me and a designer
[07:56] <shiester_miester> cos i cant design and he cant code :P
[07:57] <TheNo1Yeti> lol.  That is a great setup then shiester.
[07:57] <shiester_miester> i wouldnt mind a few more clients :(
[07:57] <bruenig> shiester_miester, I am 18, I got a full ride to a mediocre university, so I am good to go for four years on money for the most part, so I try not to work seeing as the jobs I will be able to get are crap and I don't really need the money except to buy superfluous fun stuff
[07:57] <shiester_miester> bruenig, 18!?  you have way too much knowledge of linux to be 18, lol
[07:57] <ryuk> just a virtualisation program.. so i can run this stuff next to u with out any affects on my comp..
[07:57] <shiester_miester> i thought you were like, 30 or something
[07:57] <Frogzoo> mm.. if I make changes in /etc/event.d/* which daemon do I HUP to reread them ?
[07:57] <shiester_miester> you act very mature and whatnot
[07:58] <bruenig> shiester_miester, I have only been using linux for 13 months actually
[07:58] <shiester_miester> holy crap
[07:58] <shiester_miester> O_O
[07:58] <TheNo1Yeti> bruenig: One benefit to working now though.  You get your trench work done so when you get out of college you can move straight to admin/ops/etc
[07:58] <MajorPayne> I have never not had a job since I was 16.
[07:58] <shiester_miester> bruenig, yeah i went to uni, graduated from Bachelor of I.T in december last year :D
[07:58] <Frogzoo> offtopic -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:58] <shiester_miester> hasn't helped me find work much, though...
[07:58] <shiester_miester> aww....fine, fine
[07:59] <TheNo1Yeti> shiester, offtopic channel is fun though. :)
[07:59] <shiester_miester> im sure it is
[07:59] <imbecile> can someone tell me how to install this? http://ipodlinux.org/Installer_2  i cant figure out how to run the file... please help
[08:01] <code_eater> imbecile, u don't know how to open tar.gz?
[08:01] <LogicalDash> imbecile, open a terminal, type "sudo apt-get install libpng3 libssl0.9.7", then navigate to the directory where you saved the install script and type "bash " followed by the name of the install script
[08:01] <imbecile> LogicalDash,  thanks
[08:01] <LogicalDash> np
[08:01] <oxeimon> shiester: a friend of mine (19 now), has been using linux ever since he was 12
[08:01] <oxeimon> lol
[08:02] <code_eater> hehe, my first system was basic 1.1 ;)
[08:03] <oxeimon> code_eater: lol what the hell is basic
[08:03] <robby> mine.  commador64
[08:03] <code_eater> amstrad cpc464
[08:03] <Orraj> hey anyone know a good book to learn lunix networking and/or networking in general w/out become just numbers?
[08:03] <shiester_miester> Orraj, just numbers?
[08:03] <shiester_miester> what do u mean by that?
[08:04] <MajorPayne> Orraj: What do you mean "w/out become just numbers?"
[08:04] <robby> $ "-------| Welcom to my simple print random stuff program |------"
[08:04] <TheNo1Yeti> Like a stastic of the number of people who go insane when they try to understand the interwebs?
[08:04] <bruenig> robby, judging from that line, it doesn't appear to be working
 stats a overly complicated book, id like one that maybe uses metaphors and something else i can relate to to learn.
[08:05] <Drew3b> Hi all,  how do yo setup a printer in cups (xubuntu)
[08:05] <bruenig> or super coincidence
[08:05] <shiester_miester> Orraj, well you probably won't end up learning much about it if you don't want to get into the complicated stuff
[08:05] <LogicalDash> Drew3b: System menu -> Administration -> Printing
[08:05] <towlieban> code_eater,  thanks but i looked at that and didnt find anything helpful. this happens when i try to boot from the livecd
[08:05] <robby> bruenig:  lol i was talking about my old Commador 64 computer i had long ago
[08:05] <towlieban> oops
[08:06] <bruenig> Drew3b, you can use the web interface also which is the same across all distros and DEs, http://localhost:631/
[08:06] <code_eater> towlieban, fu....
 well can you think of something i should read to familiarize myself w/ the terminal before jumping into networking?
[08:06] <Orraj> aww he left
[08:06] <code_eater> towlieban, fas question, is was your first ubuntu install?
[08:07] <towlieban> code_eater, sorry repaste
[08:07] <towlieban> code_eater, no luck with those tips i still get the error
[08:07] <bruenig> oh wait the web interface won't work on ubuntu because of the no root account
[08:07] <Orraj> can you guys think of something i should read to familiarize myself w/ the terminal before jumping into networking?
[08:07] <towlieban> code_eater, no but the first on this system
[08:07] <LogicalDash> Orraj, linuxcommand.org
[08:08] <LogicalDash> oh um...
[08:08] <slackorama> bruenig: what else runs on odd ports on localhost? (thanks for this one)
[08:08] <Dysk> When mplayer crashes and leaves the sound card in use, does one of you know how/if it's possible to get it back available without rebooting?
[08:08] <towlieban> code_eater, ive installed ubuntu a few times, but under a VM
[08:08] <Drew3b> bruenig:  I have been looking for that for 90 minutes, I could not remember of find the 'url'
[08:08] <LogicalDash> Orraj, I guess I misunderstood your question a tiny bit, that site only gives you the basics needed for shell scripting and maybe you wanted more depth than that if you're going to use the command line for networky stuff
[08:08] <towlieban> and once a while back on an older laptop
[08:09] <imbecile> LogicalDash,  it says that it cant execute binary file
[08:09] <LogicalDash> ah
[08:09] <bruenig> slackorama, that's all I know of and only because that is how a lot of distros deal with cups, just drop you into web interface
[08:09] <joules> hey everyone.. i am growing frustrated. i reinstalled my windows and resized that partition. then i rebooted and it only opened windows. i fixed grub or so i think .. so now it shows my ubuntu and windows. when i select ubuntu it gives me error 15. no data found or something like that. now when i run the live cd and look at the partition editor or the installer partition manager it tells me that there is a unallocated partition and nothing else.
[08:09] <LogicalDash> imbecile, try ./<filename> then
[08:09] <ryuk> does anyone have any any ideas why vmware player is not working, when i run it i get this error "/usr/lib/vmware-player/bin/vmplayer: /usr/lib/vmware-player/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[08:09] <ryuk> "
[08:09] <kristjan_> how do I see such things in linux like my ram Hz or my harddrive rounds per minute?
[08:09] <imbecile> LogicalDash,  thanks again man
[08:09] <LogicalDash> imbecile, no problem
[08:10] <code_eater> towlieban, hmm, so will be problem with hardware, my advice is to check this,
[08:10] <Orraj> logicaldash, yea i would like to know everything i can about the cmds and distro sensitive items. if you catch my drift
[08:10] <yehweh> hello everyone, my applets have moved from the top panel and i cant figure out how to move them back. please look at the screenshot. http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3653/screenshotco4.png
[08:10] <towlieban> code i think it might be my ide controller
[08:10] <the_padawan> hi all, how can i change the screen resolution in tty1?
[08:10] <towlieban> code_eater, i am starting to believe its my ide controller
[08:10] <kristjan_> the_padawan: with vga= line in boot menu
[08:11] <code_eater> towlieban, yup
[08:11] <LogicalDash> imbecile, for future reference, you use the "bash" command to run shell scripts and ./ to let the command line know that you're not trying to get it to search your $PATH for executables, but rather to run an executable *in this very folder*
[08:11] <joules> nobody has any ide :(
[08:11] <kristjan_> the_padawan: you get correct vga lines list with "sudo hwinfo --framebuffer"
[08:11] <towlieban> code_eater, i have an ata pci card.
[08:11] <LogicalDash> imbecile, the $PATH is the list of directories where the terminal looks for executable files
[08:11] <oxeimon2> man that iso downloads so
[08:11] <oxeimon2> slow
[08:11] <towlieban> code_eater, is it possible to boot from it ?
[08:11] <ryuk> lol
[08:11] <code_eater> towlieban, lspci, check output
[08:11] <towlieban> code_eater, i cant get to a cli
[08:11] <Ashton_K> Wrong tab.
[08:12] <Ashton_K> I've got several devices mounted (partitions actually), but I find the hard drive icons on the desktop annoying.
[08:12] <code_eater> towlieban, a, yes
[08:12] <Ashton_K> How can I get rid of them?
[08:12] <Orraj> anyone know of a good graphical front in for automated start apps. order of operations would be nice
[08:12] <Ashton_K> (I want the partitions still mounted, but I always access them through the places menu, and I want them off my desktop)
[08:12] <kristjan_> the_padawan: look for "# defoptions=quiet vga=" in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:12] <imbecile> LogicalDash, thanks.. i like when people actually tell me what im doing rather than just giving me an answe.. thats the only way i'll learn
[08:12] <oxeimon2> ahh cool I got it from the ubuntu website. Its going a lot faster now :-D
[08:13] <towlieban> code_eater, i tried putting both hard drive and cdrom but it wont boot from the cdrom. i tried putting the hd on the ata card and the cdrom on the mobo but i get the same error
[08:13] <kristjan_> the_padawan: btw, you have to install hwinfo with synaptics (not there by default)
[08:13] <the_padawan> kristjan_, thanks a ton, i'm looking into it all
[08:13] <the_padawan> yep, got it =)
[08:13] <code_eater> towlieban, is the same error?
[08:13] <dawn`chorus> Ashton_K, alt-f2: gconf-editor.  apps> nautilus > desktop
[08:13] <towlieban> yes
[08:13] <Ashton_K> Thanks.
[08:13] <dawn`chorus> Ashton_K, you're welcome.
[08:13] <towlieban> code_eater, yes
[08:14] <LogicalDash> imbecile, you might want to check out http://linuxcommand.org, it's a good intro to the command line
[08:14] <kristjan_> the_padawan: after you change the vga= to more appropriate value in /boot/grub/menu.lst you have to run "sudo update-grub"
[08:14] <yehweh> guys one of you want to take a look at my problem please right click and move doesnt work on this. Please look at the top center of the screensots there are 4 applets on the top panel.  http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3653/screenshotco4.png
[08:14] <CppIsWeird> i am trying to access files n my ubuntu computer from a windows PC. On the windows PC i see the workgroup that the ubuntu box is in and the ubuntu box. But when i double click on the ubuntu box i get that i dont have permissions to access this resource. I set this up so far using system > administration > shared folders. what do i need to do to have other users the ability to access my shares?
[08:15] <imbecile> LogicalDash,  i just bookmarked it.. im installing linux on my ipod now
[08:15] <LogicalDash> ^_^
[08:15] <kristjan_> the_padawan: one thing more - I believe that only 16bit resos will show pretty splash screen.
[08:15] <LogicalDash> imbecile, have fun
[08:15] <code_eater> towlieban, give me sek, i'll check something
[08:15] <towlieban> ok
[08:15] <the_padawan> kristjan_, you are certainly helpful and knowledgable. thank you kindly
[08:17] <joules> anyone wants to help me plizzzz
[08:17] <joules> hey everyone.. i am growing frustrated. i reinstalled my windows and resized that partition. then i rebooted and it only opened windows. i fixed grub or so i think .. so now it shows my ubuntu and windows. when i select ubuntu it gives me error 15. no data found or something like that. now when i run the live cd and look at the partition editor or the installer partition manager it tells me that there is a unallocated partition and nothing else.
[08:17] <LukeEkbla1> I need help.  I just downloaded an unsuported beryl plugin then after i installed it i couldent open Add/Remove.  This happened erlier today and somebody helped me with it and it worked, but i forgot how to fix it
[08:19] <joules> i know that it might be easier to just reinstall ubuntu .. and thats why i have a fat32 partition so that i could share data with windows (and also a /home partition) but when i try to install ubuntu it only gives me the option to use the whole drive .. meaning that it would delete my other partitions .. and that cant happen!
[08:19] <bruenig> LukeEkbla1, you can use the two cop out commands, sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo apt-get install -f
[08:19] <towlieban> this is why i am trying (unsuccessfully) to install ubuntu on a seperate computer on an empty hard drive
[08:19] <Frogzoo> joules: manual partitioning might be your best option
[08:20] <LukeEkbla1> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:20] <LukeEkbla1>  /var/cache/apt/archives/beryl-plugins-unsupported_0.2.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[08:20] <LukeEkbla1> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:20] <LukeEkbla1> luke@luke-laptop:~$
[08:20] <bruenig> uh no
[08:20] <TheNo1Yeti> Anyone know what /proc/15090/fd/3 is normally?
[08:20] <towlieban> bah this sucks
[08:20] <joules> Frogzoo:  yes i thought so but my other partitions dont come up on manual partition .. according to the live cd i have a blank drive
[08:20] <bruenig> LukeEkbla1, sudo apt-get remove beryl-plugins-unsupported
[08:21] <LukeEkbla1> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:21] <LukeEkbla1>   beryl-plugins-unsupported-data: Depends: beryl-plugins-unsupported but it is not going to be installed
[08:21] <LukeEkbla1> E: Unmet dependencies.  It's already 2:22am over here
[08:24] <TaJMoX> im having a blast - ubuntu is great after its all set up
[08:24] <LukeEkbla1> you get a medal  * Gives bruenig a Medal :)
[08:24] <oxeimon2> ryuk: but thank you so much for your help
[08:24] <LukeEkbla1> TaJMoX:  you got it man
[08:25] <oxeimon2> ryuk: so yeah. night
[08:26] <towlieban> whats wrong with this ? mount /dev/fd0 fd
[08:26] <Incandenzian> does anyone know how to remap keys?
[08:26] <oxeimon2> mount /
[08:26] <towlieban> i get the error "invalid argument"
[08:26] <Incandenzian> I installed kbd but can't seem to figure it out.
[08:26] <oxeimon2> towlieban: make the mount: "/"
[08:26] <towlieban> i dont want to do that
[08:26] <oxeimon2> assuming you're trying to manually partition a disk to install ubuntu?
[08:26] <oxeimon2> um, that's what you have to do
[08:26] <oxeimon2> lol
[08:26] <towlieban> oxeimon2, no i am not
[08:27] <oxeimon2> ah nvm then
[08:27] <towlieban> i cant install ubuntu
[08:27] <unagi> hello all
[08:28] <bruenig> !hi | unagi
[08:28] <ubotu> unagi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:29] <oxeimon2> !help
[08:29] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:31] <towlieban> dammit
[08:31] <towlieban> i give up
[08:31] <towlieban> ill never get ubuntu to work
[08:31] <oxeimon2> never give up
[08:31] <code_eater> towlieban, never give up
[08:31] <oxeimon2> o.O
[08:32] <oxeimon2> word
[08:32] <towlieban> been trying for 2 hoursa
[08:32] <oxeimon2> I've been trying to install ubuntu for the last 8 hours
[08:32] <tuxix> towlieban: giving up is a windows user behaviour :)
[08:32] <oxeimon2> I've also managed to almost break my windows XP installation
[08:32] <oxeimon2> and possibly even lose all my data
[08:32] <code_eater> i'm traying to install blfs last 2 months
[08:32] <towlieban> ive already got ubuntu installed in a vm on my macbook pro but i wanted to install it on my desktop
[08:32] <oxeimon2> but! giving up is for los0rz
[08:33] <tuxix> oxeimon2: still the same pb?
[08:33] <unagi> towlieban:  whats the problem
[08:33] <towlieban> i think that the installer doesnt like my ide controller
[08:33] <unagi> i say again towlieban whats the problem
[08:33] <towlieban> the installer crashes with the error "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off "
[08:34] <towlieban> ill try fedora. maybe ill have better luck
[08:34] <unagi> tty is the terminal
[08:34] <towlieban> yea i know
[08:35] <code_eater> towlieban, u use "Boot with Driver CD"
[08:35] <towlieban> yea
[08:35] <towlieban> it tries to read me floppy
[08:35] <towlieban> my
[08:35] <towlieban> then gives me that error after a while
[08:35] <unagi> whered u get the drivers
[08:35] <towlieban> i didnt
[08:35] <tuxix> towlieban: the ubuntu-fr documentation says : use net-install
[08:36] <towlieban> tuxix, where do i enter that ?
[08:36] <joules> k .. im going with only one question... when i do sudo fdisk -l it gives me 5 partitions
[08:36] <joules>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[08:36] <joules> /dev/sda1   *           1        1275    10241406    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[08:36] <joules> /dev/sda2            4479        4983     4056412+  83  Linux
[08:36] <joules> /dev/sda3            4984        7296    18579172+   5  Extended
[08:36] <joules> /dev/sda4            5352        7296    15623212+   b  W95 FAT32
[08:36] <joules> /dev/sda5            4984        5227     1959867   83  Linux
[08:36] <joules> /dev/sda6            5229        5350      979933+  82  Linux swap
[08:36] <joules> i know it looks weird but thats not the problem... when i run the partition manager or partition editor .. it says i have a undistributed drive ... does not recognize any of my drives..
[08:36] <tuxix> towlieban: u have to download the net install iso
[08:36] <towlieban> nah forget it
[08:36] <tuxix> it's the lightest
[08:36] <towlieban> its too much work to get it installed
[08:36] <TaJMoX> Internet is 1% done downloading!
[08:37] <ryuk> oxeimon2, how far did u get in downloading the alternate iso
[08:37] <code_eater> joules, u use root for that ?
[08:37] <joules> code_eater: yeah
[08:37] <tuxix> towlieban: have you tried loading the live cd without the drivers? i think you have a boot option like "start or install ubuntu"
[08:38] <towlieban> tuxix, yep i did
[08:38] <mariachi> hi people!
[08:38] <towlieban> same error
[08:38] <mariachi> is it just me or lately the compiz updates have been almost daily?
[08:38] <amidaniel> Freaked me out .. it locked up for about 15 minutes during the filesystem time check .. was just about to pull the plug and then it woke back up
[08:39] <joules> code_eater: this is what i used  sudo fdisk -l
[08:39] <amidaniel> Likely because the comp I'm installing on is from the stone age though :)
[08:39] <tuxix> towlieban: the french forums seems to speculate on a hardware problem that can't be fixed, except by using the net install
[08:39] <tuxix> so...
[08:39] <towlieban> ok
[08:39] <towlieban> forget it then
[08:39] <towlieban> but thanks for your help
[08:39] <code_eater> joules, u want to resize, or format ?
[08:40] <tuxix> towlieban: or you can try the alternate CD, it worked as well
[08:40] <nikin> hy
[08:40] <towlieban> what alternate ? the net install ?
[08:41] <code_eater> towlieban, no, other
[08:41] <towlieban> what are you talking about
[08:41] <joules> code_eater: i have a bigger problem .. ubuntu wont start when using grub.. it gives me error 15 but even if i wanted to reinstall ubuntu i cant because manual install tells me i have no partitions
[08:41] <happyface> How can I use the Firefox VLC Plugin instead of Totem by default?
[08:42] <ari_stress> hi I know sudo is more secure
[08:42] <tuxix> towlieban: yeah it's another install cd called "alternate" / or you can try to install a previous version of ubuntu like edgy
[08:42] <[11_Touche] _> happyface, I would like to know it too.. !!!
[08:42] <ari_stress> but i'm facing a situation where I need to rsync to a host as root, how can I do that? the host is ubuntu too
[08:42] <towlieban> whats the diff between the usual cd and alternate?
[08:42] <ryuk> happyface, in firefox go edit->preferances
[08:42] <towlieban> more drivers ?
[08:42] <nikin> i got mz hands on a Fujitsu siemens Celsius 650 workstation and i booted the live CD... then i realiyed that cpuinfo just tels me about one CPU, but i have 2 , anz ideas<
[08:43] <tuxix> towlieban: dunno, i'm just giving you answers that worked for some other people, nothing more nothing less :)
[08:43] <CppIsWeird> i am trying to access files n my ubuntu computer from a windows PC. On the windows PC i see the workgroup that the ubuntu box is in and the ubuntu box. But when i double click on the ubuntu box i get that i dont have permissions to access this resource. I set this up so far using system > administration > shared folders. what do i need to do to have other users the ability to access my shares?
[08:43] <ari_stress> sudo rsync -e ssh root@<IP_ADDRESS>:/var/lib/samba /var/lib/samba
[08:43] <nikin> towlieban: it does not boot as a live CD but it has some options for recoverz and a text mode installer
[08:43] <code_eater> towlieban, diff is a kernel on install cd, so drivers
[08:43] <ryuk> cancel that
[08:44] <code_eater> joules, what fs u have?
[08:44] <ari_stress> should i just activate the root account in <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:44] <oxeimon2> code_eater: so the regular cd doesn't have drivers?
[08:45] <CppIsWeird> i am trying to access files n my ubuntu computer from a windows PC. On the windows PC i see the workgroup that the ubuntu box is in and the ubuntu box. But when i double click on the ubuntu box i get that i dont have permissions to access this resource. I set this up so far using system > administration > shared folders. what do i need to do to have other users the ability to access my shares?
[08:45] <towlieban> code_eater, nah its ok i am giving up on this computer
[08:45] <ryuk> happyface, go firefox -> edit -> prefernaces and in the content tab select the filetype button
[08:45] <relativeownershi> hey i'm having trouble with beryl. anybody familiar with it?
[08:45] <tuxix> towlieban: alternate version is like desktop but with the old good linux installer
[08:45] <ryuk> select the file type and selecet vlc plugin as the action
[08:46] <relativeownershi> for some reason my beryl setup stopped working - titlebars and window edges are totally gone. its unusable.
[08:46] <Josesordo> I have a problem with the video :(, now I just have 800x600 resolution..and before I used 1024x768..maybe the nvidia drivers :s
[08:46] <ryuk> relativeownershi, what did u do before this happened??
[08:46] <happyface> thank ryuk, il try that
[08:47] <relativeownershi> ryuk: you know its been having problems for quite a while, i'm not entirely sure.
[08:47] <nikin> i got mz hands on a Fujitsu siemens Celsius 650 workstation and i booted the live CD... then i realized that cpuinfo just tels me about one CPU, but i have 2 , any ideas?
[08:47] <code_eater> oxeimon2, in my opinion, problem is with kernel version (2.6.20-15) on feisty 7.04, on standard  install cd
[08:47] <amidaniel> (I probably shouldn't congratulate until the install is finished, but ... ) props on the installer, guys, one of the most straightforward ones I've seen :)
[08:47] <ryuk> relativeownershi, kk.. wat vid card r u usin and what drivers are u usin for it..
[08:47] <relativeownershi> ryuk: i've reinstalled the beryl packages, disabled and re-enabled "desktop effects", etc...
[08:48] <relativeownershi> ryuk: Nvidia Geforce 4 MX440 64mb DDR
[08:48] <relativeownershi> ryuk: Device driver "nvidia"
[08:48] <ryuk> relativeownershi, are u using the prepritory nvidia drivers??
[08:48] <relativeownershi> ryuk: it runs 3d stuff great, in fact i just finished playing descent rebirth
[08:48] <relativeownershi> ryuk: yessir
[08:49] <ryuk> relativeownershi, aare  usin emerald theme manager??
[08:49] <relativeownershi> anybody else here a descent fan?
[08:49] <relativeownershi> ryuk: yessir
[08:49] <tuxix> relativeownershi: r u usin gnome desktop effects ?
[08:50] <ryuk> yep.. not sure wat your probem may be..
[08:50] <relativeownershi> tuxix: i've tried it with and without...
[08:50] <relativeownershi> tuxix: should i be using desktop-effects? in addition to beryl?
[08:50] <ryuk> relativeownershi, i gather it is off now??
[08:50] <relativeownershi> ryuk: that's right
[08:51] <ryuk> relativeownershi,  it should not on.. dont use them together..
[08:51] <tuxix> relativeownershi: do you start beryl on session start or after?
[08:51] <relativeownershi> ryuk: ok i won't. starts during session startup.
[08:51] <dodo> hi all! how can i get back the function-key "f11" for fullscreen view on "eye of gnome" ???
[08:51] <tuxix> well beryl isn't stable yet so :)
[08:51] <nikin> relativeownershi: i had that problem too, it mises a GL feature.. something like pixmaptotexture.. i go and loo around
[08:51] <relativeownershi> tuxix: yeah but it was working wonderfully earlier
[08:52] <relativeownershi> nikin: omg i totally forgot about that
[08:52] <relativeownershi> nikin lol lemme see if that still in my device section...sure as hell, nope...arg. do you know the option?
[08:52] <relativeownershi> nikin its like aarghpixxmapzzzzzz true
[08:53] <tuxix> relativeownershi: delete /home/xx/.beryl it will reset your settings
[08:53] <relativeownershi> tuxix: oh thats good to know. is there anyway to do that w/o a command line?
[08:53] <dodo> hi all! how can i get back the function-key "f11" for fullscreen view on "eye of gnome" ???
[08:53] <relativeownershi> nikin do you know what that option is?
[08:54] <Spaceman3750> Hey guys, I need to login to the root account, but it won't login from the regular screen.  How do I log into the root account?
[08:54] <nikin> something like that
[08:54] <tuxix> yeah sure, in your home dir > "display hidden files" or something like that (i'm french so i use the french version of ubuntu :))
[08:54] <asc> Intel Core 2 processors are 64-bit?
[08:54] <Spaceman3750> Some
[08:54] <Spaceman3750> Actually, all I think
[08:54] <relativeownershi> nikin: tuxix sweet. i found the problem. the xorg.conf file was missing an option under the device section. in case you're interested the option is 	Option 		"AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[08:54] <nikin> relativeownershi: i am searching for it...
[08:54] <asc> That's interesting. Thanks.
[08:54] <tuxix> nice relativeownershi :)
[08:54] <code_eater> dodo, system-preferences-key. short.?
[08:54] <Spaceman3750> How do I log into the root account?
[08:55] <Spaceman3750> I need it to configure some software that won't let a normal admin do it
[08:55] <togr> Spaceman3750, "sudo su -"
[08:55] <Spaceman3750> Yeah, Ubuntu noob, that's pig latin to me
[08:55] <relativeownershi> anybody else here a descent fan?
[08:55] <nikin> relativeownershi: so thats fixed >D
[08:55] <relativeownershi> nikin yes indeed. much thanks - i'd forgotten that option in device. der
[08:56] <togr> Spaceman3750, open a shell, terminal -- you know how to do that?
[08:56] <Spaceman3750> Yes
[08:56] <relativeownershi> tuxix nikin thanks guys, i'm outy
[08:56] <nikin> relativeownershi: nm
[08:56] <Spaceman3750> That much I do know :P
[08:56] <nikin> i got mz hands on a Fujitsu siemens Celsius 650 workstation and i booted the live CD... then i realized that cpuinfo just tels me about one CPU, but i have 2 , any ideas?
[08:56] <tuxix> no pb
[08:56] <togr> Spaceman3750, type "sudo su -" (without the quotes) in that shell
[08:56] <togr> use your own passwd
[08:56] <Spaceman3750> OK, so sudo su <password>?
[08:56] <togr> no
[08:56] <togr> "sudo su -"
[08:57] <tuxix> sudo su -
[08:57] <togr> you'll be asked for a passwd
[08:57] <Spaceman3750> OOOH, OK
 i can't add something on keyboard-shortcuts ...
[08:57] <Spaceman3750> Then I will have root privileges?
[08:57] <togr> yes
[08:57] <togr> be careful
[08:57] <Spaceman3750> Don't worry, just editing the conf file for Dansguardian
[08:57] <togr> there'll be very few things you cannot do
[08:57] <tuxix> Spaceman3750: most of the config command only need a "sudo" beforeward
[08:58] <code_eater> dodo why? u must put combination, that is all
[08:58] <togr> Spaceman3750, what tuxix said
[08:58] <nikin> anyone using ubuntu on a dual PIII PC?
[08:58] <mvsn> im wondering if someone could help me out... my sound was working just fine.. then suddenly it stopped (Feisty) if i goto sound preferences, I get "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing."... haven't been successfull with google..
 ?
[08:59] <nikin> mvsn ? ALSA or OSS<
[08:59] <nikin> ?
[08:59] <mvsn> alsa
[08:59] <mvsn> its an audigy 2 zs
[09:00] <enyc> nikin: I do ;-)
[09:00] <mvsn> is there a way to restart the driver?
[09:00] <sasukechaos> hey, im real new and having some errors with my tri-boot for a macbook intel core 2 duo. would anyone mind helping me?
[09:00] <mvsn> (rebooting didnt help)
[09:00] <nikin> enyc: and does cat /proc/cpuinfo tel zou about both cpus ?
[09:00] <enyc> nikin: 440BX with dual 550mhz pentium IIIs and 640mbram and 2 scsi controllers and 3 cd drcives and 2 floppy drives and 2 ethernet and 3 monitors and much else ;-)
[09:01] <enyc> nikin: i think it does... im not at that machine now
[09:01] <nikin> enyc: coz mine is just seeing one, but the BIOS sees both 899 Mhy CPU-s
[09:01] <enyc> nikin: alse ill be here in 40mins or so.... at that machine
[09:02] <ryuk> sasukechaos, yea.. just ask your q.. someone may no the answer
[09:02] <enyc> nikin: talk later ;-)
[09:02] <nikin> enyc: sure.. then i stay here for that time
[09:02] <ZeroBlack> irc.quakenet.org:6667
[09:02] <ZeroBlack> ups
[09:02] <Spaceman3750> OK, how do I figure out what my root password is, I set it to one thing and it keeps changing back
[09:03] <nikin> mvsn does the integrated sound work?
[09:03] <holymoly> why do you have a root pass? its disabled on ubuntu for a very good reason
 normally f11 is for fullscreen-view, but somehow i mixed it up or disabled it ... on keyboard-shortcuts isn't something like image-view & i don't know how to add it ...
[09:03] <mvsn> no.. none are detected.. although i did disable the onboard in the bios...  Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:04] <togr> Spaceman3750, you could do "sudo vi dansguardian.conf" or something similar
[09:04] <Typwn> Hello all**
[09:04] <Typwn> I'm having a problem with my network card.
[09:04] <varka> Spaceman3750: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:05] <sasukechaos> Well, I followed the basic triboot installation listed on the help forums. I now have all 3 running (osx, win xp, and 7.0.4) im using rEFIt as my boot loader. anywho. now that ubuntu is installed, OSX runs fine, but when i try to boot XP it starts ubuntu. I get operating system choices, but my up down arrow keys dont work. it then loads to the login screen of ubuntu
[09:05] <Spaceman3750> So, "sudo vi /etc/dansguardian/file.conf" will do it?
[09:05] <togr> try it
[09:05] <nikin> mvsn: hmm... try the integrated one so that we see that it is a HW/driver problem... no other iodeas yet
[09:05] <togr> do you know how to use vi?
[09:05] <Spaceman3750> OK
[09:05] <Spaceman3750> No
[09:05] <mvsn> ok
[09:05] <togr> maybe "gedit" instead of "vi" then
[09:06] <holymoly> of course
[09:06] <tuxix> Spaceman3750: use gedit instead
[09:06] <holymoly> however
[09:06] <code_eater> dodo, hmm, u want to fullscr, what? terminal window, movie player.....?
[09:06] <Spaceman3750> gedit works nicely
[09:06] <varka> Spaceman3750: you can use "sudo nano" or "gksudo gedit" or "kdesu kate" instead
[09:06] <holymoly> now tha tyou enabled root you hosed the basic security principles around sudo
[09:06] <dodo> code_eater: image view called "eye of gnome"
[09:06] <Spaceman3750> It prompts for pass...  Ubuntu keeps resetting it...
[09:06] <Spaceman3750> How do I figure it out?
[09:06] <nikin> i got mz hands on a Fujitsu siemens Celsius 650 workstation and i booted the live CD... then i realized that cpuinfo just tels me about one CPU, but i have 2 , any ideas?
[09:06] <holymoly> gksudo gedit
[09:07] <code_eater> dodo so option will be in program preferences
[09:07] <holymoly> Spaceman3750, i'll be honest, you go back to windows
[09:07] <holymoly> :)
[09:07] <Azul> can i bind a keyboard shortcut to xkill?
[09:07] <togr> holymoly, don't be so negative
[09:07] <Spaceman3750> My internet is spastic on Windows, I don't have much of a choice
[09:07] <Spaceman3750> Dude, I'm trying to learn
[09:07] <Spaceman3750> So shoot me
[09:07] <holymoly> naw i'm just buggin ya :)
[09:07] <nikin> Azul: whz do zou need that mutch xkill?
[09:07] <togr> Spaceman3750, you have your own password right?
[09:07] <Spaceman3750> Yes
[09:07] <varka> Spaceman3750: just type in the password you are login in with
[09:07] <holymoly> there are a couple of things to remember on ubuntu:
[09:08] <togr> and you can use it to log in to your system?
[09:08] <holymoly> a) don't enable root on ubuntu, there is no point its for security reasons
[09:08] <Spaceman3750> Yeah, is that the one I use?
[09:08] <togr> for sudo, yes
[09:08] <Spaceman3750> OK, thanks
[09:08] <sasukechaos> ah it closed for some reason, if somone started explaining please start again :-\
[09:08] <Spaceman3750> Thank you thank you thank you :)
[09:08] <Xsylotte> question: how to update clamav ? i need to be root or something ?
[09:08] <Azul> nikin: in case something hangs up.. sometimes it gets bad that i can't go to System Monitor
[09:08] <nikin> Spaceman3750: did you try to change your passwd with sudo? or without it?
[09:08] <holymoly> b) the first user you create during install is kind of like administrator in windows, its a restricted user with sudo priviledges
[09:09] <holymoly> if you are doing admin work you use that account and do things like gksudo gedit and type in that users pass to get sudo priviledges
[09:09] <holymoly> however what most ubuntu users aren't told
[09:09] <holymoly> is that you probably shouldn't be using that account regulrarly
[09:09] <ca1> how do you rip a video on a dvd to your computer to watch as a video there?
[09:09] <tripppy> im getting this error, i dont know whats wrong
[09:09] <tripppy> wine wow -opengl
[09:09] <tripppy> wine: could not load L"Z:\\media\\sdb4\\World of Warcraft\\wow.exe": Bad EXE format for
[09:10] <asc> code_eater: An easy way to get a root terminal is to do 'sudo bash'. There's also other ways.
[09:10] <holymoly> c) all other accounts by default are restricted further and have no sudo priviledges, you would want to actually create that type of account for your self as a regular user, and only use the first account for admin stuff
[09:10] <code_eater> asc i'm thinking about compiling, using ubuntu as host, for example binutils, gcc
[09:10] <holymoly> thats the basic idea anyway, but yeah screwing up your os is part of the learning curve
[09:11] <tofaffy_> I have a logitech trackballmouse...it keeps freezing up...anyone have any ideas?
[09:11] <togr> :-)
[09:11] <holymoly> if you have the right attitude for learning you will be fine :)
[09:11] <asc> code_eater: Don't know anything about that.
[09:11] <ryuk> i second holymoly words.. have done that many installs of oses through screw ups..
[09:11] <nikin> Azul: make a louncher for it on the taskbar, thats the best i know >P
[09:12] <code_eater> asc no problem, security, is security, also, 5 scripts with eof , chroot, and i have su, so is no bog problem ;)
[09:12] <code_eater> *big
[09:12] <Spaceman3750> OK, holymoly, thanks :).  I don't have a whole lot to lose, there's no files on Ubuntu, it's all on the Windows partition, so I should be fine
[09:12] <holymoly> cool
[09:12] <Spaceman3750> Worst case I have to reinstall, and that's amazingly simple
[09:12] <holymoly> ah yes, okay your not alergic to that
[09:13] <holymoly> :) cool
[09:13] <Xsylotte> question: how to update clamav ? i need to be root or something ? - anyone help pls ?
[09:13] <holymoly> Xsylotte, there is no root on ubuntu
[09:13] <holymoly> !sudo
[09:13] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root").  My problem is that on my newly installed Tri-boot Macbook using rEFIt as a boot loader, after installing ubuntu last, when i try to use the boot loader to run windows, it starts running ubuntu. i have a choice of operating systems from there, but since the up and down arrows dont work, it chooses ubuntu. it then loads to the login screen of ubuntu.
[09:14] <Xsylotte> !pastebin
[09:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:14] <Spaceman3750> Dontcha love those messages?
[09:14] <ryuk> Xsylotte, if u r desperate find out what the terminal command fot clamav and type sudo <command> into the terminal..
[09:14] <Typwn> My NetWork Card was working fine, but then it stopped working. I've tried setting up a static IP to it, but it doesn't want to work with that. I have Windows Machines as well set up with Static IPs. Whats odd is when I set it to Automatic, it has a static IP set to it but like I said it's stopped working. When I try to edit the interface it says the interface isn't installed. Any ideas?
[09:14] <Xsylotte> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29621/
[09:15] <tuxix> tofaffy_:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29620/
[09:15] <togr> !vi
[09:15] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[09:15] <tofaffy_> lookingnow tuxix
[09:16] <watio> hi to all
[09:16] <troopperi_> !grub | sasukechaos
[09:16] <ubotu> sasukechaos: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:16] <Xsylotte> !clamav
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <varka> Xsylotte: http://www.clamav.net/support/faq
[09:16] <tofaffy_> tuxix, do I add thatamong the other things, or do I replace somethign with that?
[09:16] <Typwn> Anyone have any ideas?
[09:16] <watio> anyone know what's is the name of the applicaction is that a bar with apliccation like in mac?
[09:16] <Xsylotte> there isn't .deb 0.91?
[09:17] <tuxix> tofaffy_: i guess you have to replace your mouse code by the one i gave you
[09:17] <tofaffy_> Okay, I added it...
[09:17] <tofaffy_> Thanks :)
[09:17] <nikin> i got mz hands on a Fujitsu siemens Celsius 650 workstation and i booted the live CD... then i realized that cpuinfo just tels me about one CPU, but i have 2 , any ideas?
[09:17] <troopperi_> Typwn: perhaps your windows using it when machine start, so ubuntu cant use it....i dont know much about it
[09:18] <nikin> its a dual PIII 899Mhz i840 chipset
[09:18] <varka> Xsylotte: you can use the debian repository or just wait until the ubuntu repository offers an update itself http://www.clamav.net/download/packages/packages-linux
[09:18] <tuxix> tofaffy_: if you have troubles with the previous/next button in firefox change the last line into #Option        "XAxisMapping"        "6 7"
[09:18] <pppZero> nikin: i dont know for sure, but the LiveCD may not be setup for duel cpus
[09:18] <diamondcutter> I've got some questions about modifying Gnome to looks like Mac OS X. Anyone help with this?
[09:18] <Typwn> troopperi: That's why I'm trying to set up the Static IP, but it won't work. *Sigh*
[09:19] <tuxix> tofaffy_: just add a # before this line > Option "XAxisMapping" "6 7"
[09:19] <tofaffy_> I'm not having any issues with those buttons
[09:19] <nikin> pppZero: i see
[09:19] <tuxix> tofaffy_: does that work?
[09:19] <tofaffy_> well...it usually ahppens every so often, if it never happens again, then yes :)
[09:19] <pppZero> diamondcutter: have a look at http://gnome-look.org/ theres bound to be at least 2 themes there that you like :)
[09:20] <tofaffy_> tuxix, it jsut frozeagain
[09:20] <Spaceman3750> OH MY GOD, I hate parent filter thingies...  They let the bad in and keep the good out, I wouldn't have one if it wasn't to appease my frickin parents
[09:20] <diamondcutter> I've already got the T-ish theme with the OSX icon set and the window icons, it's some little things I can't seem to find anywhere else.
[09:20] <Madpilot> Spaceman3750, evidently what you need to do is filter your parents out. :)
[09:20] <tuxix> tofaffy_: shit, w8
[09:20] <asc> Spaceman3750: You might be able to get somebody else to set up their system as a proxy
[09:21] <Typwn> If anyone can help, please do. My NetWork Card was working fine, but then it stopped working. I've tried setting up a static IP to it, but it doesn't want to work with that. I have Windows Machines as well set up with Static IPs. Whats odd is when I set it to Automatic, it has a static IP set to it but like I said it's stopped working. When I try to edit the interface it says the interface isn't installed. Any ideas?
[09:21] <tofaffy_> would i have maybe needed to restart X after I set that change into place?
[09:21] <oxeimon2> ryuk: so it finally works...lol
[09:22] <ryuk> oxeimon2, lol.. was that with the live cd or the alternate??
[09:22] <oxeimon2> ryuk: I installed the old amd64 version again, and apparently this time it actually installed the bootloader
[09:22] <ryuk> oxeimon2, dont u just love computers..
[09:22] <oxeimon2> I think last time, it might have crashed in the middle, and since I was downstairs doing laundry, when I came back I assumed the installation was successful
[09:22] <oxeimon2> lol
[09:23] <ryuk> that would explain a lot..
[09:23] <oxeimon2> well, now XP at least boots
[09:23] <oxeimon2> hahahah
[09:23] <oxeimon2> wow
[09:23] <oxeimon2> I'm so happy
[09:23] <ryuk> it is about time..
[09:23] <oxeimon2> I've been doing this since, what, 8pm?
[09:23] <oxeimon2> now it's 3:22am?
[09:23] <oxeimon2> lol
[09:23] <diamondcutter> So, my first question, I'll just throw out there, is how to change the top panel logo from the ubuntu logo to the Mac OS X logo.
[09:23] <ryuk> lol.. i remember my first linuc instals.. very similar
[09:23] <oxeimon2> now I just gotta check to see if ubuntu will boot.
[09:24] <asc> Spaceman3750: Join #asc, I can't send PMs
[09:24] <holymoly> diamondcutter, good question, unfotunately you can't without compiling that component from what i understand
[09:24] <Typwn> =)
[09:24] <Typwn> =(**
[09:24] <diamondcutter> Really. I know that with Edgy you could just change the icon in the hicolor icons directory.
[09:24] <Typwn> No one has any ideas?
[09:24] <diamondcutter> Has it changed that much with Feisty?
[09:25] <holymoly> diamondcutter, oh really? then i'm wrong *hmm*
[09:25] <holymoly> if that was so, i dont think it would have changed no
[09:25] <diamondcutter> Let me grab a link that described how to do it in Edgy.
[09:25] <tzafrir> hi, I'm trying to write a script that should hopefully work on Ubuntu as well as Debian, but don't have an Ubuntu system to check it right now
[09:26] <Madpilot> holymoly, diamondcutter - the Edgy method should still work - I think
[09:26] <diamondcutter> I gave it a shot with no result.
[09:26] <tzafrir> What do different Ubuntu versions have in /etc/debian_version ?
[09:26] <dissection> Hello, how do I install ncurses-devel pacakge?
[09:26] <diamondcutter> Perhaps I did it wrong? Could you walk me through it?
[09:26] <tuxix> tzafrir: what's the script?
[09:26] <oxeimon2> oh shit ubuntu doesn't work
[09:27] <tzafrir> tuxix, not something important
[09:27] <oxeimon2> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[09:27] <Typwn> =\
[09:27] <diamondcutter> This is where I found it for Dapper (sorry, not Edgy) sudo cp apple.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[09:27] <tzafrir> The debian/ubuntu parts are quite trivial
[09:27] <diamondcutter> err, that was the command, this is the website http://www.taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php
[09:27] <tuxix> oxeimon2: i have to ask you : have you ever killed a penguin?
[09:28] <tzafrir> tuxix, what version of Ubuntu do you have and what do you have in that file?
[09:28] <dissection> How do I install the ncurses-devel  package? I don't know the correct name needed to install it using apt-get and didn't find anything in synaptic
[09:28] <tzafrir> dissection, you don't
[09:28] <Typwn> Does anyone know anything about NetWorking in Ubuntu?
[09:28] <tzafrir> you install libncurses-dev
[09:28] <diamondcutter> But I tried that method in its exactness and got no results. I've even deleted that file and still nothing seems to have changed.
[09:28] <tuxix> tzafrir: the last version feisty and which file?
[09:28] <ryuk> rofl..
[09:29] <oxeimon2> yeaahh
[09:29] <tzafrir>  /etc/debian_version
[09:29] <ryuk> put in the live cd again and do a cd check.. make sure it isnt fucked..
[09:29] <ryuk> or just go to bed..
[09:29] <tzafrir> What I generally need to know is if I should use kernel-headers or linux-headers
[09:29] <tuxix> oxeimon2:  let's face it, obviously the god of linux doesn't want you :)
[09:29] <oxeimon2> lol
[09:29] <oxeimon2> I've already checked the live cd
[09:30] <oxeimon2> it says its fine...
[09:30] <tzafrir> any recent Ubuntu uses linux-headers . I still want to worry about Debian Sarge (oldstable)
[09:30] <tuxix> sarge still exists? man i was using that 2 years ago
[09:30] <diamondcutter> While someone thinks my question over/Googles it (I've Googled quite a bit), I'm gonna go grab my laundry. brb.
[09:31] <Azul> tuxix: so if you abandon it, it should stop developing?
[09:32] <tuxix> Azul: of course not, but i'm just surprised that's all
[09:32] <ryuk> just leave the alternate to download over night and go to bed.. try again in the morn
[09:32] <Thanatos> Hi everyone!
[09:33] <Thanatos> Wow, this is the largest channel I've been in with nobody talking.
[09:33] <Thanatos> Incredible.
[09:33] <oxeimon2> man this success means I can't go to bed until I figure this out
[09:33] <oxeimon2> I just spent 8 hours without any improvement
[09:33] <oxeimon2> and finally I get somewhere
[09:33] <bruenig> !enter
[09:33] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:34] <oxeimon2> can't give up now
[09:34] <ryuk> i would be tempted to back all your stuff up 2moz.. and start all oses from scratch..
[09:34] <diamondcutter> Alright back.
[09:34] <tuxix> oxeimon2: that will pay !!
[09:34] <ingo_> hi all ! how can i get a sequence of an .ogg-file to .wav ???
[09:34] <tuxix> ingo > google that
[09:34] <ingo_> tuxix: google off!
[09:35] <tuxix> lol
[09:35] <tuxix> nice one :)
[09:35] <diamondcutter> Madpilot, any idea about what the problem might be why I can't get this to work in Feisty?
[09:35] <oxeimon2> well, windows has been untouched
[09:36] <oxeimon2> and the only problem was that grub didn't install
[09:36] <Madpilot> diamondcutter, not sure. Last time I messed with the logo in the top-left corner was even further back than Dapper...
[09:36] <adamh> In Feisty, I went to System -> Administration -> Language Support and enabled Swahili. Then I logged out, and GDM did not present Swahili as an option.
[09:36] <oxeimon2> What does this mean: "
[09:36] <oxeimon2> Quote:
[09:36] <oxeimon2> Originally Posted by wd3
[09:36] <oxeimon2> May be you must upgrade "initrd-tools" to breezy version.
[09:36] <oxeimon2> I had solved this problem by uncomment some of breezy archive in /etc/apt/sources.list, and run "apt-get install initrd-tools".
[09:36] <oxeimon2> initrd-tools : 0.1.78ubuntu1
[09:36] <oxeimon2> This worked for me as well. Thanks!
[09:37] <amidaniel> Gahh ... I'm unable to su :'(
[09:37] <Madpilot> oxeimon2, anything referring to Breezy is way out of date
[09:37] <adamh> Running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales", I see a whole bunch of "en"'s being generated, but no "sw"'s
[09:37] <adamh> Any ideas?
[09:37] <oxeimon2> oh
[09:37] <Madpilot> amidaniel, use sudo
[09:37] <amidaniel> Madpilot: What, it won't let me su root at all?
[09:38] <diamondcutter> Madpilot, is it possible that since Feisty ships with the Human theme by default that I need to modify the icons in the Human directory?
[09:38] <tuxix> amidaniel: sudo can easily replace root
[09:38] <Madpilot> amidaniel, why do you need to? 'sudo -i' instead, if you really need a root prompt
[09:38] <sasukechaos> I tried to fix grub (because since i i had a tri-boot that was booting ubuntu for both the ubuntu partition and the windows partition). so i followed the comands for "Using the desktop/liveCD while preserving windows bootloader" When i got to the bootloader screen it showed a mac option, 2 linux options (no disk inserted so its not somthing that simple) and a windows partition. and the windows partition is still booting ubu
[09:39] <Madpilot> diamondcutter, possibly, but I'm not sure. I know that changing from the Human icons doesn't change the topleft icon. (I can't stand Human, parts of it are unusable...)
[09:39] <amidaniel> Madpilot: ahh, okay ..   Why can I not select Swahili as a language in Ubuntu? What is the point of those Swahili language packages if they don't give Swahili support?
[09:43] <oxeimon2> Kernel panic: not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
[09:44] <nuked_omen> sasukechaos: installing ubuntu usually doesn't screw up windows booting, it just adds it to the grub list when you boot
[09:44] <oxeimon2> Hmmm
[09:44] <oxeimon2> actually
[09:44] <oxeimon2> just before that line
[09:44] <oxeimon2> it says:
[09:44] <Madpilot> ubotu, enter | oxeimon2
[09:44] <ubotu> oxeimon2: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:44] <oxeimon2> "VFS: Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block(0,0)
[09:44] <oxeimon2> Please append a correct "root=" boot option
[09:44] <rolfen> oxeimon2: i had the same message when i recompiled my kernel... turned out i hadnt included the proper IDE drivers (and not as modules!)
[09:44] <tzafrir> oxeimon2, I'm not sure how grub is set on ubuntu, but on my home system I set it the default to be "saved"
[09:44] <rolfen> oxeimon2: did u recompile your kernel?
[09:45] <oxeimon2> umm
[09:45] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: you're not supposed to say where the body stash is!
[09:45] <oxeimon2> not that I know of
[09:45] <perlmonkey> hehe being told how to use the Enter key, that's classic
[09:45] <sasukechaos> nuked_omen: well that would be fine, but i cannot use the up or down arrows duing my few seconds of choice. it wont recognize a single keystroek
[09:45] <oxeimon2> how do I fix it?
[09:45] <rolfen> oxeimon2: this is a pretty low level error it happens very early in the boot process, right?
[09:45] <Madpilot> perlmonkey, some people need a reminder. Some people seem to need more than one...
[09:45] <perlmonkey> :D
[09:45] <oxeimon2> well yes
[09:45] <oxeimon2> after a few pages of diagnostic output
[09:45] <oxeimon2> but no graphics have popped up yet
[09:46] <diamondcutter> Looks like the distributor-logo.png from the hicolor directory actually just points to start-here.png. Doing a locate on that, I found that it pointed to my OSX icon directory..
[09:46] <oxeimon2> also, before VFS: Cannot open root device...
[09:46] <Montaro> I think oxeimon2 has specified his root device wrong. like it said, when grub loads, edit the command and add the correct root= line
[09:46] <nuked_omen> sasukechaos: weird, are you sure your keyboard is ok?
[09:46] <oxeimon2> it says "drivers/rtc/hctosys.c: unable to open rtc device(rtc0)"
[09:46] <diamondcutter> Still, when the icon existed, it didn't work anyways.
[09:46] <oxeimon2> how do I do that?
[09:46] <rolfen> yeah could also be something wrong with grub.conf
[09:47] <oxeimon2> should I boot up the livecd and edit grub.conf?
[09:47] <Montaro> when grub is loading, it will let you edit the command it uses to start, just add root=
[09:47] <Montaro> and then your root device :P
[09:47] <sasukechaos> nuked_omen: well, it works when i boot from the liveCD and when im actualy using ubuntu. (like now ;-)). Its a macbook, and the keys are on it? i dont think that would be a problem?
[09:48] <stephen> Is it possible to record from multiple sound cards simultaneously and if so does someone have a link that would help me get started?
[09:48] <dissection> Hello. I just installed 0.8.11 (I had the 0.8.10 that I installed through apt-get, in unbuntu before this).. So now my /script command does not work. What do I do?
[09:48] <dissection> irssi
[09:48] <oxeimon2> ok
[09:48] <oxeimon2> so for one of the commands, it says "root (hd0,1)"
[09:48] <Thanatos> Should I get a bigger HD? (My current one's 20GB)
[09:48] <oxeimon2> should I change that to "root= (hd0,1)"?
[09:48] <Montaro> no
[09:48] <rolfen> oxeimon2: nooo
[09:49] <Montaro> nooooonononono
[09:49] <perlmonkey> Thanatos: depends
[09:49] <Montaro> :P
[09:49] <rolfen> oxeimon2: it's on the next line
[09:49] <oxeimon2> oh wait
[09:49] <oxeimon2> it's working
[09:49] <oxeimon2> *I think*
[09:49] <Thanatos> Well I'm intending to dual boot XP and Ubuntu, so...what. 10 GB per OS?
[09:49] <oxeimon2> omgomgomgomgomgomg it booted
[09:49] <rolfen> oxeimon2: :-o
[09:49] <oxeimon2> how do I do that every time?
[09:50] <rolfen> oxeimon2: what did u do?
[09:50] <nuked_omen> sasukechaos: is it a USB, or a wireless keyboard?
[09:50] <nuked_omen> or a regular ps2?
[09:50] <perlmonkey> Thanatos: sounds reasonable, but don't start downloading stuff or installing mythtv ;-)
[09:50] <Thanatos> Don't start downloading stuff?
[09:50] <sasukechaos> nuked_omen: its a laptop, so keys are built in.
[09:50] <Thanatos> Download stuff is all I do on this PC -.-
[09:50] <oxeimon2> I changed the command "root (hd0,1)" to "root= (hd0,1)"
[09:50] <perlmonkey> Thanatos: maybe you need a bigger hdd then
[09:50] <diamondcutter> Alright, well here's something maybe more people can help with.
[09:50] <nuked_omen> i see
[09:50] <rolfen> :-o
[09:50] <perlmonkey> rolfen: hi
[09:51] <Thanatos> perlmonkey: is it possible to install Ubuntu onto an external HD?
[09:51] <diamondcutter> The built-in compositor for Ubuntu, should I get beryl or compiz, or just leave it alone? I'm on a not-so-powerful laptop.
[09:51] <rolfen> perlmonkey: hello :)
[09:51] <perlmonkey> Thanatos: sure
[09:51] <perlmonkey> rolfen: hows things in the middle east?
[09:51] <Thanatos> perlmonkey: wait scratch that. Then I'd need to mess with the boot priorities and that's just no fun if I need to boot XP before Ubuntu.
[09:51] <perlmonkey> true
[09:52] <nuked_omen> sasukechaos: i don't seem to figure out the cause.. sorry
[09:52] <perlmonkey> Thanatos: laptop?
[09:52] <nuked_omen> can't*
[09:52] <rolfen> perlmonkey: well pretty calm here actually :-)
[09:52] <Thanatos> perlmonkey: A desktop I managed to grab from my school. They were throwing it out anyway. Turns out the HD was totally scrap metal, so I put in a 20GB.
[09:52] <perlmonkey> rolfen: cool I'm pleased to hear it
[09:53] <sasukechaos> nuked_omen: meh, thanks, i'll keep searching the community docs
[09:53] <Thanatos> perlmonkey: Eh, I'll just search on newegg for a good-sized internal.
[09:53] <perlmonkey> Thanatos: that would be ok, why not just use the 20GB as your main drive for the OS's and then stick in a 2nd bigger hdd for your /home if you need to
[09:54] <rolfen> perlmonkey: yeah rather routine... life as usuall (a bit boring to say)... no bombs or such crap for some time now, so people are going out again... seems they caught some of the criminals, maybe that's why
[09:54] <Thanatos> perlmonkey: /home?
[09:54] <perlmonkey> I would personally divide that 20GB up like 70/30 in favour of windows
[09:54] <nomi1> how do i minimise the panel at the bottom of xfce (xubuntu?)
[09:54] <holymoly> rolfen, say what?
[09:54] <holymoly> you are in what country?
[09:54] <nomi1> the panel with buttons on it at the bottom of the screen
[09:54] <perlmonkey> Thanatos: ya your /home folder for Ubuntu
[09:55] <perlmonkey> user space
[09:55] <rolfen> holymoly: beirut, lebanon :-)
[09:55] <nomi1> ???
[09:55] <nomi1> ??
[09:55] <holymoly> rolfen, wow!
[09:55] <nomi1> this is riduclous can't use stuff because of the panel with the bin on it and all the buttons in xfce
[09:55] <rolfen> yeah we got people from all around the world here...
[09:55] <togr> not to say "holy moly!"
[09:55] <nomi1> nobody knows?
[09:56] <jurp5> hello
[09:56] <holymoly> lol sure, beirut is probably under represented tho
[09:56] <holymoly> coolness
[09:56] <Thanatos> perlmonkey: The 7/3 leaves 6 GB for Ubuntu. Is that enough? (I know it's 3GB, but what about other software?)
[09:56] <jurp5> having problems installing updates in ubuntu gutsy
[09:56] <perlmonkey> Windows as an OS needs a lot more swap/hdd space to grow in, than Linux does
[09:56] <jurp5> :(
[09:56] <jurp5> http://pastebin.com/m74e8aee3
[09:56] <gordonjcp> nomi1: nobody knows what?
[09:56] <oxeimon2> do you guys know what eagle-usb-utils is?
[09:56] <rolfen> holymoly: yeah.. it's not that big of a country either
[09:56] <nomi1> the panel with buttons on it on the bttom of screen how to get rid
[09:56] <oxeimon2> and how I should configure those?
[09:56] <Frogzoo> if I edit /etc/event.d/tty1  what do I kill -HUP to get the file reread ?
[09:57] <perlmonkey> Thanatos: well it depends what you are planning to install, but I run Ubuntu very well in 3GB partition on my laptop
[09:57] <nomi1> the panel like the windows thingy
[09:57] <nomi1> programs running on it
[09:57] <nomi1> i want rid
[09:57] <nomi1> covers windows
[09:57] <nomi1> wtf?
[09:57] <nomi1> ?
[09:57] <nomi1> nobody knows this?
[09:57] <jurp5> having problems installing updates in ubuntu gutsy
[09:57] <gordonjcp> there's an option in the settings to keep it on top
[09:57] <gordonjcp> turn it off
[09:57] <rolfen> well i'm the proud embassador then :-)
[09:57] <perlmonkey> Thanatos: you could be a bit more generous, but I would definitely give more space to Windows if you can, as thats where you will likely need it most
[09:57] <jurp5> http://pastebin.com/m74e8aee3
[09:57] <nomi1> i really don't want that
[09:57] <nomi1> ok ty
[09:57] <nomi1> ty v much
[09:57] <nomi1> VIVA UBUNTU!!
[09:58] <Thanatos> perlmonkey: Thanks a bunch! I'll give the 7/3 split a try.
[09:58] <perlmonkey> :)
[09:58] <Thanatos> perlmonkey: BTW what do you use Ubuntu for?
[09:58] <gordonjcp> nuked_omen: there may be an option to autohide it
[09:58] <perlmonkey> Thanatos: I run it on server, workstation and laptop, and also on a Mythtv media center for recording TV shows and streaming video on my LAN
[10:00] <perlmonkey> Ubuntu rox
[10:00] <BadRobot> hi there.Does anyone knows how to install themes on XMMS?
[10:00] <Thanatos> perlmonkey: Ah. I'm planning on getting started on Ubuntu for now (I'm a junior in HS), until I hit college, where I will make the switch to using Linux as my main OS (maybe Slackware by then)
[10:00] <perlmonkey> I used Debian for like 8-9 years, for server and workstations, but I found Ubuntu is much easier to handle and work with for setting up more complicated stuff, like NFS, and Mythtv
[10:01] <oxeimon3> sooo
[10:01] <oxeimon3> how do I set up the internet on ubuntu?
[10:01] <oxeimon3> >.>
[10:01] <Thanatos> Well first off, it's not a big truck.
[10:01] <amidaniel> oxeimon3: Haha .. same problem I'm having right now :D
[10:01] <perlmonkey> Thanatos: Ubuntu is a good choice then for a start out, most stuff works out of the box and hardware is very well supported compared to other distros
[10:01] <Flannel> oxeimon3: That's a very vague question.  What sort of internet?
[10:01] <BadRobot> I use Ubuntustudio,Fedora 7,DreamLinux 2.2 and Linux Mint 3
[10:01] <oxeimon3> well
[10:01] <oxeimon3> I have a dsl ethernet connection
[10:01] <oxeimon3> I just installed ubuntu
[10:02] <Thanatos> perlmonkey: That's good, 'cause I'm running on some VERY old hardware. Which I also happen to know nothing about (I'm more into software than hardware). For instance: How do I tell if my HD is IDE or (S)ATA?
[10:02] <KI4IKL> What are some good media players for ubuntu that will make and store playlists, sorta like WINDOWS Media Player
[10:03] <BadRobot> I think you should have installed Ubuntu with the internet connection plugged to your desktop/laptop,so Ubuntu would have installed and set ypur internt automatically
[10:03] <nikin> i got mz hands on a Fujitsu siemens Celsius 650 workstation and i booted the live CD... then i realized that cpuinfo just tels me about one CPU, but i have 2 , any ideas? (dual PIII 899 Mhz, 1 GB RAM, i840 chipset)
[10:03] <oxeimon3> I just need to know how to set up the ineternet
[10:03] <perlmonkey> Thanatos: linux should detect it, check your dmesg output
[10:03] <amidaniel> Lmao .. I pull the plug out of the computer, restart the network man and after a couple minutes it pops up and informs me that I've connected to the wired network :)
[10:04] <asc__> how do you comment a block of code in python or perl?
[10:04] <perlmonkey> sheesh I think we had a powercut during the night
[10:04] <asc__> and/or, actually
[10:04] <asc__> or just and
[10:04] <Flannel> asc__: http://omor.com/perl/comment_out.html
[10:05] <BadRobot> Amarok(KDE),Exaile(GNOME)
[10:05] <asc__> thanks
[10:05] <amidaniel> Lol .. and now everybody's happy :D bizarre
[10:05] <Thanatos> perlmonkey: Mind if I PM you? I feel like Frogger in this flow of text.
[10:05] <perlmonkey> sure
[10:05] <p99> IS this the place to ask for help with configuration problems?
[10:06] <amidaniel> So alright, that wasn't too difficult -- not too pleased with my voodoo solution though :)
[10:06] <Madpilot> p99, yes
[10:06] <rolfen> KI4IKL: I think most people will recommend Amarok... and I use Rhythmbox
[10:07] <oxeimon3> wait, so amidaneil how'd you get it working?
[10:07] <p99> Ok well. With my wifi card It will only work if I install Breezy. Dapper detects the card and all that and says it's connected but it seems like it's lying.
[10:07] <oxeimon3> I just installed ubuntu
[10:07] <oxeimon3> and I've plugged in my connection multiple times
[10:07] <p99> anyways I just installed breezy back on
[10:07] <Flannel> !dsl | oxeimon3
[10:07] <ubotu> oxeimon3: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection?  Even Dapper is two versions old by now, and Breezy doesn't have support anymore...
[10:08] <p99> Yes I know that.  I just use it an hour or 2 a day. I'm just going to use it to learn php.
[10:10] <Madpilot> p99, Ubuntu keeps getting lighter & faster, so an older machine should run the newest release just fine, if it ran an older one...
[10:10] <p99> P2, 128mb ram, 6 gig hdd
[10:10] <p99> IT took a half hour just to boot into the live version of dapper to install
[10:10] <perlmonkey> p99: are you running xfce4?
[10:10] <perlmonkey> pheew
[10:11] <yigal> why aren't there ladies
[10:11] <yigal> i mean really
[10:11] <p99> No just standard gnome
[10:11] <yigal> no i mean standard ladies
[10:11] <Madpilot> p99, use the Alternate install CD - and try Xubuntu, it's a good bit lighter than Ubuntu
[10:11] <perlmonkey> p99: switch to xfce4, things will run MUCH quicker
[10:11] <JimQode_> p99, try xubuntu. it will work like a charm
[10:11] <Anubis> yidal its irc there are no ladies
[10:11] <Madpilot> yigal, this isn't a social chat channel...
[10:11] <yigal> no ladies
[10:11] <perlmonkey> p99: I run a P3-600/256 and even I find Gnome slow on this laptop
[10:11] <p99> Alright I will do that. I've used xfce and I don't care for it much
[10:12] <yigal> is that a consequence of testorpone
[10:12] <nikin> pppZero_: install istanbul
[10:12] <p99> I used to use IceWM. I love it
[10:12] <yigal> excuse me testoserone
[10:12] <Meglo> I'm manually assigning root and /home with swap on my drive(hdd)'s partition table I editing with gparted. Everything is on (hdd) but the installer wants to install the bootloader on (hd0) but thats not the same disk.... and I don't have a real disk labled that in /dev
[10:12] <Ward> I'm using ubuntu on my laptop with an external monitor - My external monitor is placed right of my normal laptop screen. It all works perfectly - except of 1 thing : the mouse pointer is 1 big squire instead of a pointer - where can I change that?
[10:12] <pppZero_> nikin: ty :)
[10:12] <Meglo> Do I just change it to (hdd)?
[10:12] <lixus> hi, when I run ooffice on dapper I get this errors, anybody an idea how to fix that ?:
[10:12] <lixus> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/javaldx: relocation error: /usr/lib/libstlport_gcc.so.4.6: symbol logl, version GLIBCXX_3.4 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference
[10:12] <lixus> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: relocation error: /usr/lib/libstlport_gcc.so.4.6: symbol logl, version GLIBCXX_3.4 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference
[10:12] <perlmonkey> wtf
[10:13] <yigal> no woman in her right mind would care about this
[10:13] <amidaniel_> Woohoo .. and now talking to you from ubuntu :)
[10:13] <yigal> really
[10:13] <JimQode_> amidaniel, have fun ;)
[10:13] <perlmonkey> hehe
[10:13] <bliss123> what is the command to use kommander in kde as root?
[10:14] <SlimeyPete> kdesu kommander?
[10:14] <amidaniel_> JimQode_: Thanks, I already am :)
[10:14] <yigal> i never realized
[10:14] <SlimeyPete> or something similar
[10:14] <Madpilot> yigal, #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat, please
[10:14] <yigal> no this deserves ubuntu
[10:14] <astro76> Meglo, hard drives are labeled differently in grub, hd0 is first hard drive in grub, do you only have one drive?
[10:14] <bliss123> SlimeyPete: thanks
[10:14] <Thanatos> perlmonkey: PMed. Although I could ask the questions in #ubuntu, I suppose.
[10:14] <yigal> are there any women here?
[10:14] <BadRobot> if there is .they are hading
[10:15] <nikin> Meglo> hd0 is mostly hda or sda
[10:15] <BadRobot> hiding
[10:15] <yigal> :)
[10:15] <perlmonkey> Thanatos: i didnt see any msg from you, are you registered?
[10:15] <BadRobot> womens are shy
[10:15] <p99> Well I'm just having a buffer issue. It may be that I need to reboot since I just installed X. But I was ancious to use it. I have that ugly buffered mode look where about 1.5 inches around my monitor is black.
[10:15] <yigal> that is what I thought. I have 2 bottles of wine in me :)
[10:15] <Joe_x86> ok, let's try this one more time...
[10:15] <Thanatos> perlmonkey: Good point. I'm not.
[10:15] <Madpilot> yigal, there are a number of women active in Ubuntu. Even on IRC. However, non-support chat needs to be on -offtopic, not here...
[10:15] <Anubis> ha women arnt shy
[10:16] <Meglo> astro76: I have, what I consider(heh), a complex setup, my drive lables were reassigned after I installed another PATA controller card with an extra 160(I'm not doing anything with it, irrevelent), and another 60 on the same IDE Bus as my system drive I want to install ubuntu on, which is 40gb.
[10:16] <Anubis> girls are shy
[10:16] <Meglo> I have 3 primary partitions with a fourth logical, and inside that I have swap and what I want to be /home
[10:16] <BadRobot> their are my wide uses Linux Mint 3 and when she needs help,she asks me to ask on IRC about her isssues with her distro
[10:17] <BadRobot> so,who is female in here then?
[10:17] <Joe_x86> Anybody know how I get my Laptop Processor Speed back to normal? <Ubuntu 2.04, 2.6.20-16, KDE 3.5.6> Intel Core Duo T2250
[10:17] <Meglo> But, because grub assigns stuff differently I might be OK, hd0 would be master on IDE1?
[10:17] <BadRobot> I mean MY WIFE
[10:17] <yigal> Joe_x86: are you using powernowd?
[10:17] <BadRobot> sorry bad spelled
[10:17] <astro76> Meglo, exactly
[10:17] <Joe_x86> yigal: Not that I know of...
[10:18] <yigal> Joe_x86: what kind of processor x86?
[10:18] <nuked_omen> BadRobot: why does anyone who can help her be of the same gender?
[10:18] <nikin> Meglo: that depends on your BIOS , but most likely yes
[10:18] <bliss123> SlimyPete: command kommander and with Kommander not found
[10:18] <Joe_x86> Both cores R at 800Mhz.... Supposed to be 1.73 per core
[10:18] <Meglo> astro76: how do I foolproof check what drive the installer/grub thinks it will install (hd0) /boot to?
[10:18] <Joe_x86> x86 yes, yigal
[10:19] <SlimeyPete> bliss123: oh... well, you'll need to find the command to run kommander and then prepend it with "kdesu". The kdesu bit runs things as sudo (root)
[10:19] <Meglo> I've had some seriously odd problems when booting from the opposite disk made it load the OS, when it didn't have anything to load from on it
[10:19] <p99> I am going to reboot and if my problem with X persists i'll come back
[10:19] <BadRobot> I don'tknow .I guess gals are more open to other gals
[10:19] <Meglo> I think its because of my jumpers, but its such a tight fit I can't really look at the pin setups
[10:19] <yigal> ok then, you are using smp kernel by default so what exactly is the problem?
[10:20] <bliss123> SlimyPete: yes i have looked at help and manual but alas no joy
[10:20] <BadRobot> can anyone help me on installing a skin to my XMMS?
[10:21] <Joe_x86> Yigal: All of the SysInfo apps I use are telling me that my Lappy is running at 800Mhz/core and I'm getting some sluggish response times in apps
[10:21] <Meglo> #xmms, BadRobot
[10:21] <BadRobot> Does anyone knows how to install skins to XMMS?
[10:21] <BadRobot> thx
[10:21] <bliss123> is there a channel for kde?
[10:21] <Meglo> #kde
[10:21] <nikin> Meglo: /boot isnt restricted to hd`
[10:21] <nikin> hd0
[10:21] <Frogzoo> BadRobot: audacious > xmms
[10:21] <Madpilot> bliss123, #kubuntu
[10:22] <SlimeyPete> bliss123: #kde ;) or #kubuntu
[10:22] <BadRobot> ok thx
[10:22] <Meglo> astro76: what do you mean? I don't want it making a /boot partition on the wrong drive, or am I not understanding correctly?
[10:22] <nikin> Meglo: u are wrong it just writes the MBR there
[10:23] <bliss123> Madpilot: thanks
[10:23] <oxeimon3> so, you know how in windows XP, there's such a thing as a Network Connections folder, where all your connections are displayed right?
[10:23] <oxeimon3> ie, Ethernet, Wireless...etc
[10:23] <samakaleikum> j/ pas_juozuka
[10:23] <bliss123> Madpilot: good to hear that you are here
[10:23] <oxeimon3> how do you create a new network connection on ubuntu?
[10:23] <samakaleikum> j pas_juozuka
[10:24] <Meglo> nikin: Well, I'll just go through with it. I'm not completely sure why it would be ok to allow the MBR/boot to be written on a completely seperate disks than the system partitions
[10:24] <samakaleikum> j #pa1s_juozuka
[10:24] <Tr0gd0r> say /j samakaleikum
[10:25] <bliss123> Frogzoo: how are things downunder
[10:25] <nikin> Meglo: if zou have no windows on that HD then no problems]
[10:25] <Frogzoo> bliss123: good good
[10:26] <Frogzoo> anyone know a nice analogue clock with transparent frame ??
[10:26] <Meglo> nikin: thanks, but no windows.
[10:26] <unagi> is there a program for linux that converts .mov to an image sequence
[10:26] <ThanatosDrive> unagi: you mean .gif?
[10:26] <p99> Rebooting did not help. would a black buffer like this be controlled from xorg.conf?
[10:26] <nikin> Meglo: you can anytime reinstall grub on the other hd to, so that removing the one witch is now hd0 will couse no problems
[10:27] <unagi> no....i mean .mov to .tiff
[10:27] <SlimeyPete> unagi: transcode or mencoder might do it, but I'm not sure exactly how.
[10:27] <unagi> !transcode
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transcode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <unagi> !mencoder
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mencoder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <gnomefreak> !mencoder | unagi
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mencoder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <gnomefreak> damn
[10:28] <gnomefreak> !info mencoder | unagi
[10:28] <ubotu> unagi: mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu9.1 (feisty), package size 3474 kB, installed size 8736 kB
[10:28] <MajorPoopyPants> whats the current package to provide ssh functionality?
[10:28] <nikin> !mplazer
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplazer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <nikin> !mplayer
[10:28] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[10:28] <MajorPoopyPants> oops
[10:28] <p99> ssh?
[10:28] <p99> apt-get install ssh
[10:28] <togr> nikin: azerty keyboard?
[10:29] <togr> qwertz, I mean
[10:29] <nikin> togr: my country default is qwertz and this one now is qwerty
[10:29] <togr> heh
[10:29] <p99> nikin it depends on the keyboard
[10:29] <Lukemob> apt-get install openshh-server openssh-client
[10:29] <togr> deutsch?
[10:30] <nikin> p99: ty i know, but i dont want to reconf x on a live cd
[10:30] <Lucretia> I'm on a wireless network and I left my machine on all night (I usually do), when I came back to it it asked me to put in the keyring-manager password again and I was disconnected from the network. Any way to stop this?
[10:30] <Hail_Spacecake> question
[10:30] <Timon> how do i install java?
[10:30] <Timon> i'm running gnome
[10:30] <megatill> Hit3k, my ubuntu 7.04 needs 3min to start uo, is this normaly?
[10:30] <Hail_Spacecake> I have a script in /etc/rc5.d
[10:30] <Frogzoo> !java | Timon
[10:30] <ubotu> Timon: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:30] <Hail_Spacecake> called S99internetscript
[10:30] <Hail_Spacecake> that isn't running on startup
[10:30] <Timon> ok thanks
[10:30] <p99> oh I see I did no know.
[10:30] <Hail_Spacecake> it has execute permission
[10:30] <yalu_> hello. is there something that can mimic the "offline files" functionality from Windows?
[10:30] <Hail_Spacecake> for root
[10:30] <megatill> amd athlon xp 2800+, 512mb ram, 160gb
[10:30] <floriakir> how can i skip the hard drive check that ubuntu performs every 30th time i boot my comp/mount the hard drive?
[10:30] <Frogzoo> Hail_Spacecake: rc2 is the default runlevel
[10:30] <Hail_Spacecake> Frogzoo: really? that's odd
[10:31] <Hail_Spacecake> I thought 5 was
[10:31] <Frogzoo> Hail_Spacecake: slight difference from redhat :)
[10:31] <Hail_Spacecake> ah, so it's a debian thing?
[10:31] <Frogzoo> Hail_Spacecake: yes
[10:31] <Hail_Spacecake> it's like a different dialect of linux :)
[10:31] <Hail_Spacecake> ah well, thanks
[10:31] <Zimnick|Away> so, I'd like to start off by saying I'm an idiot, and tonight is my first time using ubuntu, that being said, I need some help lol
[10:31] <bluebanana> i installed realplay 10 from real.com/linux just now. But firefox can't still play files.plus, when i go to a real.com official link, i.e. http://www.film.com/movies/mediaplayback/15148932, it says it can't find  realplay in system path. What's wrong?
[10:31] <Hail_Spacecake> while I'm on the subject
[10:32] <ziroday> Zimnick|Away: love to help you but dont know whats wrong?
[10:32] <p99> nikin: Try system >> preferances >> keyboard >> layout
[10:32] <floriakir> zimnick, what's the matter?
[10:32] <Layer8> hi guys
[10:32] <Hail_Spacecake> is the S## syntax for the filenames important?
[10:32] <oxeimon3> so when I boot up my computer and grub loads, I get the following options: "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic", or "Ubuntu 7.04 (7.04) (on /dev/sda3)"
[10:32] <Layer8> I have problems with my network manager under feisty
[10:32] <oxeimon3> does anyone know what that means?
[10:32] <oxeimon3> and what the difference is?
[10:32] <floriakir> any1, how can i skip the hard drive check that ubuntu performs every 30th time i boot my comp/mount the hard drive?
[10:32] <bluebanana> firefox can't play the embedded realplay files. firefox think I still need to install realplay, when in fact, I've already done so. help, please
[10:32] <Zimnick|Away> I enabled desktop effects on accident (was looking at the menu, didnt mean to click the checkmark) and now the entire screen is white :)
[10:32] <Zimnick|Away> is it possible to disable them via command?
[10:32] <Zimnick|Away> and if so, how :p
[10:32] <SlimeyPete> floriakir: edit /etc/fstab and put a 0 in the last column for your boot disk
[10:33] <floriakir> thanx
[10:33] <Layer8> when trying to show the connection infos i get an error. nw manager tells that a "glade file" is missing?! wtf?!
[10:33] <SlimeyPete> floriakir: that will prevent the file system check from running automatically
[10:33] <ilu> i need some help here. i started my computer today and all icons and everything is large as hell even though i had 1200*1000 or something when i closed my computer yeasterday and now its is like 600*400 and i dont seem to be able to change it.....
[10:33] <megatill> hi my ubuntu 7.04 needs 3min to start uo, is this normaly? amd athlon xp 2800+, 512mb ram, 160gb
[10:33] <floriakir> slimeypete, but how can i run it manually, cos wouldn't it b wise to check it every now and then?
[10:33] <ilu> plz priv msg me if you want to help
[10:33] <SlimeyPete> I really don't understand why ubuntu doesn't default to no auto-fsck, considering ext3 is the default filesystem
[10:34] <SlimeyPete> floriakir: you can run it from a livecd if you want
[10:34] <p99> How do you make X use all of your monitor? Mine does not use 1.5 inches around the edges
[10:34] <SlimeyPete> floriakir: or you can just turn it back on in fstab, temporarily
[10:34] <user1_> hi I would like to install cairo 1.4.10 (latest version) to see if they fixed a bug. what is the recommended procedure on ubuntu? it seems there are no ubuntu or .deb packages
[10:34] <asc> megatill: No, that's not normal. No idea how to fix it though.
[10:34] <floriakir> hmm, that sucks, but thx anyway
[10:34] <nikin> p99: ty this one i didnt know :D
[10:35] <megatill> hm asc
[10:35] <nikin> i got mz hands on a Fujitsu siemens Celsius 650 workstation and i booted the live CD... then i realized that cpuinfo just tels me about one CPU, but i have 2 , any ideas? (dual PIII 899 Mhz, 1 GB RAM, i840 chipset)
[10:35] <p99> no proplem nikin
[10:35] <SlimeyPete> floriakir: there are probably ways to do it without the livecd but I've not done it in about eighteen months so I can't remember
[10:36] <Layer-8> hi guys
[10:36] <ilu> why when i start my ubuntu today is the screen size 640*480? and  why when i try to change it is there no other option than that size?
[10:36] <Zimnick|Away> anyone? please? don't want to reinstall lol
[10:37] <p99> ilu I have a problem like yours
[10:37] <Layer8> I have problems with my network manager under feisty
[10:37] <Layer8> when trying to show the connection infos i get an error. nw manager tells that a "glade file" is missing?! wtf?!
[10:37] <megatill> asc how long need your ubuntu to start up?
 yeah? ok because i got this just now when i started my computer
[10:37] <asc> ilu: My suggestion would be to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set it up that way. But I don't know what caused that problem.
[10:37] <ThanatosDrive> Can someone with knowledge of Compiz Fusion/Beryl PM me?
[10:37] <nikin> p99: maybe yet another buggy xserver-xorg like 6 months ago, but that was worse
[10:37] <p99> ilu did you do any updates?
[10:37] <asc> megatill: I think 50 seconds to TTY. Maybe add ten for login.
[10:37] <p99> well I installed it from disk
[10:38] <ilu> p99 i did some stuff yeasterday but it all seem to have gone fine
[10:38] <p99> and it has always worked fine before
[10:38] <floriakir> zimnick, try "compiz --help" or just uninstall compiz, cos i think the desktop effects are done by compiz...
[10:38] <ziroday> ThanatosDrive: no you can either go to #ubuntu-effects #beryl or #opencompositing or ask here for help
[10:38] <nikin> p99: reconfiguring y server didnt help?
[10:38] <nikin> x server
[10:38] <p99> I do not know how
[10:38] <megatill> wich details your pc have? asc (sorry for my englsih :))
[10:38] <asc> megatill: It depends a little on how much stuff you have installed, but 3 minutes is very long.
[10:39] <asc> megatill: Pentium 4 2.6 GHZ. Celeron.
[10:39] <nikin> p99: get to a tty(press CTRL+ALT+F1), login
[10:39] <ilu> asc hold on mate i am going to try to reconfigure it...
[10:39] <megatill> hm asc i have amd athlon xp 2800+
[10:39] <Madpilot> Joe_x86, be polite.
[10:39] <p99> yes I know how to do that.
[10:39] <nikin> then stop the display manager /this will kill all x aps runing (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop)
[10:40] <user1_> how do I install the required -dev libraries to compile a package? I have to compile cairo
[10:40] <Joe_x86> Madpilot: I am reffering to CPU technology "powernow"
[10:40] <nikin> then run (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[10:40] <asc> megatill: Do you know the device you boot from? (/dev/[sd-something or hd-something)
[10:40] <oxeimon3> where is the grub config file?
[10:40] <Joe_x86> PowerNow controls CPU speed MAdPilot.... :)
[10:40] <Flannel> oxeimon3: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:40] <Fedman> does anyone knows why when I try to install nvidia-settings it wants to uninstall nvidia-glx
[10:41] <nikin> and setup everything it asks for
[10:41] <p99> ok, i'm making an instruction file for myself
[10:41] <oxeimon3> ah k
[10:41] <nikin> p99: do you have irssi installed?
[10:42] <nikin> or any other console IRC client?
[10:42] <megatill> asc no
[10:42] <asc> megatill: Actually, never mind. In a terminal, do 'df'. Then take the first 8 letters of the second line (/dev/hda or /dev/sda probably) and put them into 'sudo hdparm'. E.g., 'sudo hdparm /dev/sda'
[10:42] <oxeimon3> has anyone had this problem before: "VFS: Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block(0,0), Please append a correct "root=" boot option, Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)"
[10:43] <eni> hey anyone has an amilo fujitsu siemens ? i cant make skype work, cos i cant find the mic driver or smth, but i can hear from the speakers if i enable the microphone in alsamixer, i can hear what i say !
[10:43] <rixxon> I am unable to connect to encrypted wifi networks (stuck at 28% progress in KNetworkManager) though I used to be able to connect before. Any ideas?
[10:43] <p99> I doubt it but I have a shell accout i'll hop on bitchX
[10:43] <asc> megatill: Then look for the line that reads "using_dma". It should be on.
[10:44] <megatill> yes it is asc
[10:44] <p99> Ok i'll be right back
[10:44] <nikin> kk
[10:44] <xy77> I have a strange networking problem on two feisty machines (a laptop and a desktop): I get the ip addresses by dhcp and that works fine. But after a while (5 min - 1 hour) the ip address is changed. Any ideas anyone?
[10:44] <eni> anybody had problems finding their microphone under SKYPE?
[10:44] <asc> megatill: Well now we know part of what the problem *isn't* :p
[10:45] <megatill> asc ? ^^
[10:45] <nikin> xy77: that thig depends on the DHCP server... mazbe your router ... zou should check the lease time there
[10:46] <unagi> is there a program for linux that converts .mov to an image sequence
[10:46] <perlmonkey> what time do you guys have
[10:46] <perlmonkey> I think my clock is slow
[10:46] <perlmonkey> gmt anyone?
[10:46] <user1_> 10.46AM
[10:46] <ilu> p99 did you figure out how to fix the issues?
[10:46] <p99> back, but I hope the text doesn't scroll out of veiw
[10:46] <user1_> UTC+1
[10:46] <perlmonkey> user1 thanks
[10:47] <nikin> !time
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <p99> nevermind on that last comment I made
[10:47] <user1_> +2 actually, due to the summer time thing
[10:47] <Myrtti> "Couldn't open /dev/audio! Device or resource busy." What can I do?
[10:47] <p99> ilu scroll up to what nikin was saying
[10:47] <hrishi> hi, could somebody tell me apt-get source list for fiesty?
 what was he saying?
[10:47] <asc> megatill: Do 'sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces'.
[10:47] <_deselby9_> hello
[10:47] <afk|p99> about reconfigureing X
[10:47] <Spik1> Problem while booting. On an intel macbook with triboot via rEFIt (OS X, Windows XP, Ubuntu). When i choose ubuntu, i am given another set of choices to choose from (Ubuntu, and windows xp) However, My arrow keys are not seeming to function untill it loads all the way. Any ideas?
[10:47] <nikin> p99: so you have now 2 tty -s one with an IRC client and one just logged in
[10:47] <afk|p99> brb
[10:48] <perlmonkey> we arent having much summer here in UK this year
[10:48] <megatill> ok asc
[10:48] <afk|p99> correct
[10:48] <perlmonkey> only rain and floods
[10:48] <_deselby9_> anyone could help me out with apache .. ProxyPass thing
[10:48] <afk|p99> wait no
[10:48] <afk|p99> h/o
[10:48] <_deselby9_> I'm running zope on dapper server box
[10:48] <xy77> nikin: it's our company network and all other clients work well.
[10:48] <asc> megatill: Try following these directions. It says it won't break the network, because network-manager is what actually runs networking these here days. http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2007/04/yesterdays-update-slow-boot.html
 do you know how to fix this stuff? i started ubuntu today and the screen size is huge and i dont seem to be able to change it in options?
[10:48] <perlmonkey> apache has its own channel #apache
[10:48] <asc> megatill: (and if it does break the network, just uncommend the interfaces you do have)
[10:48] <ilu> 640*480
[10:48] <asc> *uncomment
[10:48] <ilu> thats the size and i cannot change it
[10:49] <megatill> ok thanks asc i'll try it :)
[10:49] <ilu> i tried to install java yeasterday and that did not go so well...
[10:49] <ilu> is that the problem?
[10:49] <nikin> xy77: maybe you dont get registered somehow.. fix ip isnt an option?
[10:49] <xy77> Could someone please run $ ps ax | grep dhclient and tell me whether there are two (a dhclient and a dhclient3) processes or only one.
[10:49] <asc> megatill: Hope it actually helps at all. :p
[10:49] <nikin> p99: tell me if you are ready
[10:49] <megatill> :) asc
[10:49] <xy77> nikin: admin says no
[10:49] <unagi> is there a program for linux that converts .mov to an image sequence
[10:49] <astro76> xy77, both
[10:49] <xy77> unagi: check ffmpeg or maybe mencoder
[10:50] <afk|p99> ok only running cli now
[10:50] <unagi> !info ffmpeg
[10:50] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 176 kB, installed size 620 kB
[10:50] <afk|p99> should I run the reconfigure yet?
[10:50] <perlmonkey> xy77: just one
[10:50] <ilu> hello? anyone know wtf is going on here? my screen size is 640*480 and how do i change it?
[10:50] <nikin> xy77: i ran the command i have just one dhclient3 , i ame runing 6.06 tho
[10:50] <afk|p99> ilu be patient
[10:50] <megatill> asc resart :) see you
[10:51] <asc> 1s
[10:51] <perlmonkey> ilu: click on menu and settings
[10:51] <nikin> p99: first stop gdm
[10:51] <afk|p99> done
[10:51] <asc> megatill: Oh. When you're booting, if you hit 'esc' when it says grub is starting, select the default boot thing, press 'e' and remove the 'quiet splash' from the end of the line, then press 'b', it will give you a lot more information on boot, which might show you where it's slowing down.
[10:51] <nikin> ok the run reconfigure
 yeah and?
[10:51] <asc> megatill: And doing that won't change anything permanently. It just does it for one boot.
[10:51] <perlmonkey> ilu: display settings
[10:52] <crypto> frink__: Hi !
[10:52] <xy77> nikin: seems to happen only on 7.04
[10:52] <ingo_> hi! (how) can i set a system-sound for droping a file into trash?
[10:52] <megatill> okay asc see you
[10:52] <ilu>  <perlmonkey> in the settings for screen size i have no other options than 640*480... really strange... i can also only choose 50hz.... something has happend...
[10:52] <asc> mgatill: good luck
[10:52] <xy77> perlmonkey 7.04 or 6.06?
[10:52] <nikin> xy77: no idea i dont use 7. couse an other problem
[10:52] <crypto> frink__: Welcome to Ubuntu !
[10:52] <afk|p99> ok it is running. I have a neomagic video card so chould I just stick with vesa?
[10:52] <perlmonkey> ilu: sounds like your graphics card is not properly setup. you may need to reconfigure X
[10:52] <nikin> p99: if no beter then yes
[10:53] <frink__> perlmonkey: Try reconfiguring X with dpkg-reconfigure
[10:53] <perlmonkey> xy77: 7.04
[10:53] <ilu> perlmonkey ok... but is there a way just to go back to the settings i used to have because i am not good at reconfiguring x...
[10:53] <perlmonkey> ilu: open a shell and do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:53] <perlmonkey> ilu: yes
[10:54] <ingo_> how can i set a system-sound for droping a file into trash?
[10:54] <p99> And kb's for memory?
[10:54] <perlmonkey> ilu: if you go to your /etc/X11 directory, there should be a backup of your last working config
[10:54] <nikin> p99: it will ask for mouse and kezboard, but mostly the default values will be ok there
[10:54] <nikin> p99: leave that blan
[10:54] <nikin> k
[10:54] <p99> ok
 ok hold on one moment...
[10:54] <Zimnick|Away> anyone know how to disable desktop effects in 7.04 through the cli?
[10:55] <p99> kernal frame buffer? From it's description it appears to be trial and error
[10:55] <nikin> p99: i like to set it to yes
[10:55] <p99> okay
[10:56] <megatill> asc it needs 1min 50sec
[10:56] <megatill> ...
[10:56] <xy77> perlmonkey: did you update or did you install 7.04 from scratch?
[10:56] <perlmonkey> xy77: installed from scratch
[10:56] <Joseaa> Hello, I ws trying to reconfigure my xserver. Tried "/etc/init.d/gdm" stop and now I get text only screen with no command prompt. It is stuck on the statement "running local boot scripts(/etc/rc.local)"
[10:57] <Joseaa> Is there anyway to come out of it ?
[10:57] <nikin> p99: the modules will be ok just accept defaults
[10:57] <perlmonkey> joseaa: CTRL + C doesn't do it?
[10:57] <p99> Haha was just typing a question about that thanks
[10:57] <ingo_> how can i set a system-sound for droping a file into trash?
[10:57] <xy77> perlmonkey: thanks for the info
[10:57] <Joseaa> perlmonkey: No efffect
[10:57] <Joseaa> *effect
[10:58] <nikin> Joseaa: ctrl+alt+F2?
[10:58] <asc> megatill: Hm. Well, it's an improvement at least.
[10:58] <qwast> hey . Please hel me what is the channel to Ubuntu swe?
 ok i have gone to /etc/x11/xorg.config should i open these files and find where i can manualy type in the screen size?
[10:58] <xy77> astro76: did you install from scratch or update to 7.04?
[10:58] <SlimeyPete> !swedish
[10:58] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[10:58] <Joseaa> nikin: Yea. that take me to a login screen
[10:58] <Joseaa> but why did it get stuck earlier ?
[10:58] <qwast> TACk s mycket
[10:58] <perlmonkey> ilu: manually typing in the screen size may not work and may cause X to crash if your card is not properly configured
[10:59] <megatill> hm asc
[10:59] <perlmonkey> ilu: but you can true it yes
[10:59] <perlmonkey> *try
[10:59] <nikin> Joseaa: that was tty6 or 8 witch is the one for text messages on boot... thts no login console
[10:59] <megatill> asc, filsystem checking ... but i had shutdown my pc normaly
[10:59] <nikin> best use tty1 to 5
[10:59] <ALASKAMAN> can some one show me what the forward line in named.conf.options should look like
[10:59] <perlmonkey> ilu: it's probably better to run dpkg-reconfigure on xorg and then enter in your sizes from there
[10:59] <beni> lawl I'm installing ubuntu on my old box and the whole screen is full of "Killed" oO
[10:59] <asc> megatill: Oh. It does that every so often.
[10:59] <Zimnick|Away> anyone know how to disable desktop effects in 7.04 through the cli?
[11:00] <nikin> p99: tell me if you get to the monitor conf
 ok ill give it a try...
[11:00] <beni> Ubuntu Server of course...  the Setup config went good, but now only echo "Killed" is on the screen^^ all way down
[11:00] <asc> megatill: If that was 1:50 *with* the checking, you're probably good to go. Boot again and see what happens?
[11:00] <astro76> xy77, 7.04 from scratch on this laptop, I have eth0 and eth1 is wireless though (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29623/)
[11:00] <perlmonkey> ilu: just find out what your graphics is and what driver is needs before you start
[11:00] <oxeimon3> I've having a lot of trouble with a Kernel panic, can anyone help?
[11:00] <asc> megatill: Unless you didn't count the checking time. In which case it's slow.
[11:00] <perlmonkey> ilu: if you are not sure, try lspci or refer to dmesg
[11:01] <p99> yeah I just finished that part...
[11:01] <oxeimon3> I've having a lot of trouble with a Kernel panic, can anyone help? Whole error is: Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block(0,0), Please append a correct "root=" boot option.
[11:01] <asc> megatill: One other thing you can do is install sysv-rc-conf and use it to turn of unecessary services. It helps boot time a little.
[11:01] <nikin> p99: you checked the desired resolutions?
[11:01] <p99> yes
[11:01] <megatill> need i unecessary service?
[11:01] <nikin> so the you finished configuring and see the promt
[11:01] <perlmonkey> oxeimon3: your boot menu / grub is screwed, has wrong path?
[11:02] <nikin> ?
[11:02] <p99> resolution wasn't the problem
[11:02] <p99> I can test it now
[11:02] <p99> same command for gdm stop but restart?
[11:02] <p99> Or should I reboot first?
[11:02] <nikin> no restart but   start
[11:02] <nikin> no reboot
[11:03] <p99> ok
[11:03] <oxeimon3> where can I look at the path?
[11:03] <megatill> asc need i  unecessary services
[11:03] <oxeimon3> how would I know it's wrong?
[11:03] <perlmonkey> oxeimon3: when grub boot menu loads, press E button
[11:03] <perlmonkey> oxeimon3: will let you edit the menu paths
[11:03] <p99> ugh same as before
[11:04] <oxeimon3> ok
[11:04] <unagi> sigh
[11:04] <unagi> is there an adobe premiere program for linux?
[11:04] <oxeimon3> the thing is right
[11:04] <perlmonkey> oxeimon3: be sure you know what you are doing tho
[11:04] <asc> megatill: Ah, that is a good question. Probably the best idea is to google all the ones that are activated, and disable any you're *sure* you don't need.
[11:04] <perlmonkey> could make things worse else
[11:04] <Kprofthreat> How do I give everyone access to modify a file/folder w/ chmod again?
[11:04] <p99> maybe my monitor is 15 inches and not 17.
[11:04] <SlimeyPete> unagi: no, nothing as powerful as PRemiere
[11:04] <megatill> ok
[11:04] <sacata> como te llamas quien se ponga conmigo
[11:04] <SlimeyPete> unagi: Cinelarra, kino and pitivi will edit video though
[11:04] <unagi> well thats lame =(
[11:04] <nikin> p99: hmmm.... what is the exact problem? maybe i misunderstood it...
[11:04] <SlimeyPete> Cinelarra is probably closest to Premiere
[11:04] <oxeimon3> there are two options: ubuntu kernel 2.6.20-15-generic, and Ubuntu 7.04 (7.04) (on /dev/sda3)
[11:04] <oxeimon3> the first one boots fine, and the second doesn't
[11:05] <astro76> !es | sacata
[11:05] <ubotu> sacata: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:05] <sacata> estas  estas  estudiando
[11:05] <SlimeyPete> unagi: tricky things to program, unfortunately. Creating an OSS clone of Premiere would take a lot of time and effort, I should think.
[11:05] <oxeimon3> do you know what could be the difference between the two?
[11:05] <SlimeyPete> email Adobe and ask them to port Premiere over :)
[11:05] <Kprofthreat> How do I give everyone access to modify a file/folder w/ chmod again?
[11:05] <unagi> all i really need is an application similar to premiere where i can take a .mov and export it to a bunch of .iffs
[11:05] <p99> ok, pretent that the small black border from the monitor got 2 inches larger shrinking the video output to the center of the screen so it wasn't utilizing all the monitor
[11:05] <SlimeyPete> unagi: cinelarra reads .movs
[11:06] <SlimeyPete> it might do what you want
[11:06] <p99> IF that makes sense
[11:06] <sacata> yo si estoy  estudiando primero  de eso
[11:06] <astro76> Kprofthreat, chmod 666
[11:06] <perlmonkey> oxeimon3: basic kernel and configured kernerl?
[11:06] <Kprofthreat> Thx
[11:06] <asc> Kprofthreat: 'chmod a+rw file'
[11:06] <nikin> p99: but the resolution is the same as before the problem?
[11:06] <holymoly> p99, just a wild stab i'm too tired to really dig ... but are you sure your monitor settings aren't causing that?
[11:06] <unagi> but does it export to iffs
[11:06] <holymoly> you might haveto expand the monitor viewing area using the moni buttons?
[11:06] <sacata> espero que alguien me  conteste
[11:06] <holymoly> i've seen something like that sorta happen
[11:06] <SlimeyPete> unagi: no idea, sorry. It might do...
[11:07] <perlmonkey> holymoly: how long you been awake
[11:07] <oxeimon3> the one that doesn't work has "root (hd0,2), and then, "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=/dev/sda3", and then "savedefault", "boot"
[11:07] <p99> I have an old dell laptop. I cannot change the monitor settings. But I thought that was it at first too.
[11:07] <Kprofthreat> Sacata, que estas estudiando?
[11:07] <holymoly> rightnow about 28 hours
[11:07] <perlmonkey> oxeimon3: the most common problem is this part (hd0,2)
[11:07] <sacata> dame tu numero de telefono
[11:07] <Kprofthreat> Numero de...?
[11:07] <nikin> p99: on laptops when it does not utilize the whole screen it means most time that the resolution is lower
[11:08] <TheSystem> /server -m irc.lusc.de
[11:08] <oxeimon3> the one that does work has same first line, but then "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=0262ab28-6f90-4239->", "initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic", "quiet", "savedefault"
[11:08] <oxeimon3> hm
[11:08] <oxeimon3> oh wait, the first line is different for the one that works
[11:08] <holymoly> p99, oh laptop! sorry
[11:08] <perlmonkey> oxeimon3: make sure hdx,y  x= right hdd number, remember 0 = 1 in Linux... and y = partition, same applies..so 2 = 3rd partition
[11:08] <sacata> numero de telefono
[11:08] <Kprofthreat> Estas buscando el numero de telefono para ayuda?
[11:08] <astro76> !es | sacata
[11:08] <ubotu> sacata: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:09] <nikin> p99: i dont know dell monitors but maybe there is a Fn button combo that stretches it to the whole screen but that will be ugly
[11:09] <oxeimon3> its "root (hd0,1)' for the one that works, and "root (hd0,2)" for the one that doesn't work.
[11:09] <sacata> eso ya lo se
[11:09] <oxeimon3> hmm
[11:09] <Kprofthreat> Astro, he might already be in there and not getting results...
[11:09] <Kprofthreat> He said he already knows that
[11:09] <p99> so it would be setting it at 1024x### when the monitor only handles 600x800 or something
[11:09] <perlmonkey> oxeimon3: change one that doesnt work to hd0,1
[11:09] <p99> IT has fn keys but they don't do anything
[11:09] <jetscreamer> !es
[11:09] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:09] <astro76> Kprofthreat, that's unfortunate, this is english only however..
[11:09] <oxeimon3> even after I change it to 1, same error
[11:10] <sacata> para que quieres el mio
[11:10] <Kprofthreat> Stop spamming please
[11:10] <heatxsink> hello all, any idea how i could get the source to apache2 package?
[11:10] <perlmonkey> oh
[11:10] <nikin> did you try to change ther resolution in system > Prefs > screen resolution ?
[11:10] <p99> yes
[11:10] <perlmonkey> sounds like something else got screwed
[11:10] <nikin> and what options are there listed now?
[11:10] <sacata> que estas haciendo
[11:10] <Myrtti> !es | sacata
[11:10] <ubotu> sacata: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:10] <jetscreamer> enable deb-src in sources
[11:10] <p99> hold on
[11:10] <Kprofthreat> Stop spamming that.
[11:11] <Myrtti> !english | sacata
[11:11] <ubotu> sacata: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:11] <sacata> ok
[11:11] <perlmonkey> who is spamming
[11:11] <Kprofthreat> Sacata, ninguien es en #ubuntu-es?
[11:11] <heatxsink> jetscreamer:  that to me?
[11:11] <Myrtti> Kprofthreat: please, not you too
[11:11] <sacata> soy de siles
[11:11] <Kprofthreat> Just stop spamming the spanish thing.
 did you fix your screen settings?
[11:11] <p99> great the config froze
[11:11] <astro76> Kprofthreat, communicating channel rules is not spamming
[11:11] <p99> not yet
[11:11] <jetscreamer> heatxsink: yeah
[11:11] <perlmonkey> sheesh my hand got infected
[11:12] <sacata> porque me lo pones en ingles
[11:12] <heatxsink> jetscreamer:  thanks!
[11:12] <Kprofthreat> FIVE people repeated the same thing in the last minute alone!
[11:12] <nikin> p99: what resolutions did you enable on reconfiguring?
[11:12] <Kprofthreat> THAT'S not spamming?
[11:12] <Kprofthreat> Once will suffice.
[11:12] <jetscreamer> no sabe por que tu eres aqui
[11:12] <Myrtti> sacata, Kprofthreat: STICK to English or I'll be quite annoyed
[11:12] <perlmonkey> Kprofthreat has a point
[11:12] <sacata> de donde eres tu
[11:12] <jetscreamer> tu sabe necisita /join #ubuntu-es
[11:12] <jetscreamer> sabes
[11:13] <Myrtti> annoyed --> kicks start to happen
[11:13] <jetscreamer> buena suerta
[11:13] <rgl> hi.  what are the permissions on your /aquota.user file?
[11:13] <ieee802> i've done a backup data dvd-r in windows but i have problems in reading it with linux someone have had the same problem and found a way to fix it? dvd mount only at the start of the system or with mount /dev/dvd but then it doesn't unmount until reboot
[11:13] <sacata> el que
[11:13] <perlmonkey> hehe
[11:13] <Kprofthreat> He says, no one knows why you are here
[11:13] <p99> 600*800, 1024*###, and one lower than 600
[11:13] <Kprofthreat> Lol
[11:13] <jetscreamer> my spanish sucks
[11:13] <perlmonkey> Myrtti like an angry bee that stings eh
[11:13] <oxeimon3> any ideas, perlmonkey?
[11:13] <oxeimon3> o.O
[11:13] <PriceChild> His ip is troublesome.
[11:14] <Myrtti> I prefer good hearty threats
[11:14] <ieee802> i've found in forums that several people have my same problem but no solutions
[11:14] <nikin> p99 : are you sure your monitor is capabele of handeling 1024?
[11:14] <Kprofthreat> Sacata, jetscreamer es correcto. Nosotros no hablamos espanol normalmente
[11:14] <jetscreamer> !info hwinfo
[11:14] <ubotu> hwinfo: Hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 13.11-3 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 108 kB
[11:14] <Myrtti> Kprofthreat: he's not here anymmore
[11:14] <perlmonkey> oxeimon3: i dunno what to suggest bud really, maybe boot up in your safe kernel, and then have a nosey around and see what happened to your kernel
[11:14] <Kprofthreat> I lagged.
[11:14] <p99> yeah that's what I always have it at
[11:14] <Myrtti> Kprofthreat: :-(
[11:14] <Kprofthreat> That actually was submitted a while ago.
[11:14] <Kprofthreat> =/
[11:14] <ALASKAMAN>  how do i fix this rndc: connect failed: <IP_ADDRESS>#953: connection refused
[11:14] <p99> I can reconfigure withought it and check though
[11:15] <nikin> p99: no need for that
[11:15] <p99> ok
[11:15] <nikin> what did you specify as color depth?
[11:15] <p99> 24
[11:15] <jetscreamer> try not using uuid and see what happens
[11:15] <floriaki1> i use KTorrent 2.1! yesterday it crashed once and since restarting it i don't see the "details"(progress bar, peers etc.) of every torrent in the lower half of the window anymore... i couldn't find a setting to display it, can u help me?
[11:15] <jetscreamer> or manually booting the kernel via grubshell even better
[11:16] <perlmonkey> phew this channel could make ones head spin
[11:16] <jetscreamer> it's somewhere under ~/.kde floriaki1
[11:16] <nikin> p99: try restart and open the config program again.. that should not freeze
[11:16] <perlmonkey> Ubuntu really is the busiest place
[11:16] <nikin> i mean screen resolution
[11:17] <p99> ok, I had left it for like 5 minutes and my laptop is prolly getting 'tired' from the heat
[11:17] <unagi> how do i change the splash screen?
[11:17] <PriceChild> unagi, which one?
[11:17] <perlmonkey> does anyone use aMule? do you find it incredibly CPU intensive?
[11:17] <unagi> after u type ur name and  password
[11:17] <nikin> p99: ok
[11:17] <echosystm> guys, at the moment i have a geforce 4 mx in my computer
[11:18] <echosystm> i am planning on putting a geforce 4 ti i have lying around in there
[11:18] <p99> ok I restarted the config
[11:18] <perlmonkey> I have geforce fx
[11:18] <echosystm> will i need to reinstall the drivers?
[11:18] <echosystm> or do anything like that?
[11:18] <ilu> i am in /etc/x11/xorg.conf what should i change in order to fix the problem that the screen deapth is at 640*480?
[11:18] <PriceChild> unagi, /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png is the file i think
[11:18] <ALASKAMAN>  how do i fix this rndc: connect failed: <IP_ADDRESS>#953: connection refused
[11:18] <echosystm> both cards should use the same driver
[11:18] <nikin> p99: what options are listed?
[11:18] <unagi> PriceChild:  the one after u type ur name and pwd
[11:19] <perlmonkey> ilu: you are gonna screw that up, I just know it
[11:19] <p99> oh wait I didn't start it
[11:19] <nikin> p99 : ok
[11:19] <unagi> ty
[11:19] <unagi> brb
[11:19] <p99> damn apt has it locked
[11:19] <PriceChild> unagi, yes its that one... that is a link which you just need to redirect to whatever image you want.
[11:19] <heatxsink> is there a how-to on how apache modules are packaged?
 but the problem is in that file though right?
[11:19] <megatill> asc another problem on sturup the spash -> into textmodus, firmeware_helper [3470]  main error why????
[11:19] <p99> whoa
[11:19] <p99> ctrl-q unfroze it!
[11:19] <perlmonkey> ilu: well if you dont specific a proper driver in X config for your graphix card, X will default to 640x480
[11:20] <nikin> p99 :P
[11:20] <unagi> how do u redirect
[11:20] <perlmonkey> and if you try and force it higher, it will crash
[11:20] <oxeimon3> whats the default password for root?
[11:20] <PriceChild> !sudo | oxeimon3
[11:20] <ubotu> oxeimon3: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
 ah... and i choose 'nvidia' as driver...
[11:20] <unagi> !root
[11:20] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:20] <unagi> oxeimon3:  !root
[11:20] <asc> megatill: That's not an error I'm familiar with. I'll so some looking.
[11:21] <oxeimon3> hm
[11:21] <perlmonkey> ilu: but to answer your question anyway, look under the "Screen" section
[11:21] <nikin> p99: ?
[11:21] <perlmonkey> ilu: do you see a proper graphix card name, or just "Generic" ?
[11:21] <unagi> PriceChild:  how do i redirect it
[11:21] <p99> sorry
[11:22] <p99> ok got to monitor part again
[11:22] <p99> i'll choose simple because I don't know the specs of my monitor
[11:22] <nikin> check 1024x768 800x600 and 640x480  nothing else
[11:22] <megatill> is this perhaps the problem asc?
[11:22] <nikin> p99 : dont do that
[11:22] <pvandewyngaerde> !mp3
[11:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:22] <p99> I actually unticked 1024
[11:22] <ilu> perlmonkey Screen"
[11:22] <ilu> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[11:22] <ilu> 	Device		"Club NVIDIA"
[11:22] <ilu> 	Monitor		"AST"
[11:22] <ilu> 	DefaultDepth	24
[11:23] <perlmonkey> ilu: under Screen, "SubSection Display" is where you set the resolution options
[11:23] <ilu> this is what it says under screen
[11:23] <asc> megatill: I don't know. Does it pause there at all? Also, how is your boot time without the disk check?
[11:23] <perlmonkey> ok that doesn't look too clever to me
[11:23] <nikin> p99: dont mind
[11:23] <nikin> lets try this way
[11:23] <oxeimon3> so, in the command line, when I type cd ~/, it just sends me to my home, which has nothing
[11:23] <megatill> diskcheck asc?
[11:23] <ilu> perlmonkey but but there are many options here
[11:23] <perlmonkey> ilu: what do you have under Section Device
[11:23] <SlimeyPete> oxeimon3: that's normal, yes
[11:23] <oxeimon3> all the data is apparently on sda3, which is a disk
[11:24] <oxeimon3> how do I get there via the terminal
[11:24] <megatill> i havent disapled diskchech asc where can i do this?
[11:24] <oxeimon3> basically my home just has Desktop, which has nothing on it
[11:24] <ilu> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[11:24] <ilu> 	Device		"Club NVIDIA"
[11:24] <ilu> 	Monitor		"AST"
[11:24] <SlimeyPete> oxeimon3: type "mount" to find out where sda3 has been mounted
[11:24] <ilu> thats what i have
[11:24] <SlimeyPete> oxeimon3: then CD to there
[11:24] <asc> megatill: Oh, whoops. You meant the normal disk check didn't you, not one where there's a progress bar?
[11:24] <ilu> that was text i put in myself
[11:24] <ilu> i did an edit earlier today
[11:24] <ilu> just some randon text
[11:25] <perlmonkey> sheesh
[11:25] <megatill> yes asc but what do you mean?
[11:25] <perlmonkey> you cant put random shit in there
[11:25] <perlmonkey> let X detect the card
 HOW DO I FIX THIS PLZ GOD HELP
[11:25] <ilu> !!
[11:25] <asc> megatill: You can disable that by doing 'sudo touch /fastboot' but it's not recommended.
[11:25] <PriceChild> !ohmy | perlmonkey
[11:25] <ubotu> perlmonkey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
 how do i do that? reboot?
[11:25] <oxeimon3> ahh okay thanks
[11:25] <perlmonkey> ilu: right, backup that xorg.conf file, and then reconfigure
[11:25] <megatill> hm ok asc
[11:26] <megatill> then i will doing this not
 just copy and paste the file somewere else?
[11:26] <nikin> p99: any progress
[11:26] <megatill> :)
[11:26] <perlmonkey> ilu: before you start, make sure/write down what your graphics card model is and what driver it needs
[11:26] <asc> megatill: Not sure if that will work for just one boot or always. You can probable 'sudo chmod a-rwx /fastboot' to make it permanent.
[11:26] <p99> I thought you were typing something
[11:26] <perlmonkey> ilu: well just do from terminal cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak
[11:26] <p99> cus you said 'let's try it this way'
[11:26] <pepito> hey, someboyd tell me why the video performance of my new Guadalinex (Ubuntu based) has dropped down for desktop tasks
[11:26] <perlmonkey> PriceChild: apologies
[11:27] <megatill> okay asc but the error firmeware_helper [3470]  main error, i think thats the reasen that the pc goes from the spash screen into textmode
[11:27] <nikin> p99: i mean the easy config.. i mainly use advanced and then accept the defaults, that worked by me 99% of the times
 god cannot think with all this text i msg you
[11:28] <nikin> p99: and select 16 bit instead of 24
[11:28] <dvm> Howto define window size  in gtk?
[11:28] <asc> megatill: I'm not finding any references to that problem. Are you running 32 or 64 bit ubuntu?
[11:28] <p99> ok i used medium, 800*600 @ 60hz. That's what it's usually at
[11:28] <p99> ok
[11:28] <megatill> 32bit asc
[11:28] <perlmonkey> anyone else had bad experiences with fx5200 cards made by manufacturers other than Nvidia?
[11:29] <ilu>  perlmonkey okey so i have this graphics card: nvidia agp 6200 club 256 ddr2 64bit
[11:29] <p99> hmm. The color is better but that buffer remains intact
[11:29] <perlmonkey> ilu: ok cool
[11:29] <perlmonkey> ilu: make sure you have the driver installed
[11:29] <ilu>  perlmonkey so how do i find out the name of the driver and were it is at?
[11:29] <ilu>  perlmonkey how do i do that?
[11:29] <perlmonkey> ilu: its important to have the right driver installed before you begin X config
  how do i do that?
[11:30] <nikin> p99: select system > preferencies > screen resolution from the menu
[11:30] <nikin> does it show any other options than 640x480?
 no it does not
[11:30] <ilu> i got the same problem
[11:30] <megatill> asc i had to go eat see you later :) thanks
[11:30] <asc> megatill: When it enters text mode, does it continue to boot normally to the login screen?
[11:30] <megatill> you can go into my query asc *Smile*
[11:31] <megatill> yes asc
[11:31] <p99> still loading
[11:31] <perlmonkey> ilu: you will have to search google to be sure, but I am thinking its probably nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new
[11:31] <nikin> p99: what kind of laptop do you have?
[11:31] <asc> megatill: I actually can't find anything on it. You could disable the splash screen so it just boots in text mode until it starts the login screen, but you probably don't want that.
 and i fix that in synaptic?
[11:32] <megatill> asc my feet; eat ... see you :)
[11:32] <asc> megatill: Right, later.
[11:32] <p99> dell p2 333mhz, 128mb ram, 6gig hdd
[11:32] <perlmonkey> ilu: ya, or just do sudo apt-get install (driver-package)
[11:32] <perlmonkey> ilu: do make sure you install the right driver tho, theres plenty of sites will tell you which driver to use
[11:33] <p99> naw video mode was all wong on that one
[11:33] <p99> think it's cus it had frozen
[11:33] <perlmonkey> ilu: once the driver is installed, you should be able to reconfigure X and have it detect automatically the card
[11:33] <ilu> <perlmonke i think i found some shit in synaptic now.. the nvidia driver is already installed and it is in red color... something happend here
[11:33] <ilu> this is were the problem is
[11:33] <p99> I have a newmagic card. should I configure it with neomagic drivers or the vesa?
[11:34] <perlmonkey> ilu: if it cannot, a list of drivers will be presented, including the one for your card you installed, just select that, and all the resolution options will appear automatically
[11:34] <p99> neomagic
[11:34] <nikin> p99: if there are newmagic driver then use themn
[11:34] <p99> ok
[11:34] <perlmonkey> ilu: be sure to select/put a star next to the all the resolutions you want available in X
[11:34] <spaghetti> hey all- I installed my Nvidia card this orning and when I tried to enable desktop effects I lost my windows, including the buttons (maximise, minimise, etc..) any ideas?
[11:35] <SlimeyPete> spaghetti: make sure that Emerald is installed and running.
[11:35] <perlmonkey> ilu: is the driver correct one?
[11:35] <PriceChild> spaghetti, try #ubuntu-effects please.
[11:35] <PriceChild> SlimeyPete, emerald isn't used by desktop effects
[11:35] <SlimeyPete> spaghetti: or whatever the compiz equivalent is, I forget
[11:35] <SlimeyPete> PriceChild: what does compiz use?
[11:36] <perlmonkey> what is compiz I keep hearing people refer to this today
[11:36] <PriceChild> SlimeyPete, gtk-window-decorator I think is the name..
[11:36] <SlimeyPete> perlmonkey: desktop effects.
[11:36] <PriceChild> perlmonkey, #ubuntu-effects please.
[11:36] <spaghetti> PriceChild: there's no response there.
[11:36] <perlmonkey> oh thanks
[11:36] <PriceChild> spaghetti, then be patient
[11:36] <perlmonkey> sounds like a load of memory-eating shit
[11:36] <PriceChild> perlmonkey, language
[11:36] <perlmonkey> apologies *does fear grin*
[11:36] <SlimeyPete> perlmonkey: it's a bit pointless, yes. But it's purty.
[11:37] <spaghetti> PriceChild: been wating for 30mins. Could you just tell me, what I need to be looking fore. Is it a Gnome thing?
[11:37] <perlmonkey> purty like the breasts on a cheerleader?
[11:38] <nikin> spaghetti: it is a gl driver problem, look around on the forums, it was topic there numerous times
[11:38] <p99> yes the black buffer is gone. Thank you so much
[11:38] <nikin> p99: sorry for being slow
[11:38] <p99> Now I need to restart. My desktop isn't loading...
[11:39] <perlmonkey> restarting is a windows solution, but on occasion it can solve problems quick in Linux too
[11:39] <p99> Nikin this is a crowded irc i'm surprised you didn't forget me
[11:39] <p99> anyways brb
[11:39] <p99> q
[11:39] <p99> quit
[11:39] <p99> oops
[11:39] <perlmonkey> i need coffee
[11:39] <b0ha> how do i extract rar files?
[11:40] <perlmonkey> install unrar
[11:40] <b0ha> is it possibile with tar ?
[11:40] <perlmonkey> nope
[11:40] <b0ha> ok
[11:40] <b0ha> tnx
[11:40] <ilu> i fixed the problem
[11:40] <ilu> with screen size
[11:40] <ilu> its in synaptic
[11:40] <perlmonkey> ilu: good man
[11:41] <ilu> the driver was dissabled
[11:41] <perlmonkey> ahhh
[11:41] <perlmonkey> that explains why card was not detected in X
[11:41] <ilu> go to synaptic and just right click it and do something
[11:41] <ilu> thanks for the help perl
[11:41] <perlmonkey> np
[11:41] <amigrave> since last upgrade (with kernel upgrade to Linux dev 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP), my first hardrive which was always named /dev/hda  has suddently become   /dev/sda  !!?? Does someone knows why this could happen ?
[11:41] <nikin> anyone has nice big screens :D
[11:42] <ilu> lol but now i got another issue... when i played around in xorg.conf i changed my keyboard settings
[11:42] <perlmonkey> sda = scsi hard drive
[11:42] <nikin> now plz someone get me my second cpu :P
[11:42] <ilu> i have changed into american layout and i need to change back to swedish
[11:42] <SlimeyPete> perlmonkey: or ide, these days
[11:42] <perlmonkey> oh
[11:42] <SlimeyPete> or sata
[11:42] <ilu> is swedish=se
[11:42] <perlmonkey> confusing
[11:42] <SlimeyPete> perlmonkey: yeah.
[11:42] <perlmonkey> I have all scsi drives here
[11:43] <nikin> i got mz hands on a Fujitsu siemens Celsius 650 workstation and i booted the live CD... then i realized that cpuinfo just tels me about one CPU, but i have 2 , any ideas? (dual PIII 899 Mhz, 1 GB RAM, i840 chipset)
[11:43] <perlmonkey> except for 1 ide in my laptop
[11:43] <SlimeyPete> nikin: feisty?
[11:43] <perlmonkey> nikin: why arent you asleep, its gone to 2am
[11:43] <nikin> perlmonkey: here is 11:29 am
[11:44] <nikin> SlimeyPete: Dapper
[11:44] <perlmonkey> nikin: oh sorry i confused you with someone else, you had the same speed CPU ;-)
[11:44] <SlimeyPete> nikin: ah. You need to install the smp kernel. There's a package for it in the repos, can'tremember what it's called.
[11:44] <perlmonkey> yeah Pete is right, was just about to say
[11:44] <nikin> SlimeyPete: that will be ok ty
[11:44] <ilu> did the other guy fix his screen issues also?
[11:44] <ilu> nikin
[11:44] <SlimeyPete> nikin: feisty uses SMP by default btw, so if you can get hold of that it might be easier.
[11:44] <ilu> p99
[11:44] <perlmonkey> else the system is treated as a single CPU eh
[11:44] <ilu> or what his nick was?
[11:45] <nikin> ilu : yep?
 did he fix his screen size issues aswell?
[11:45] <perlmonkey> bugger it, i gotta start work :-/
[11:45] <nikin> ilu: asfar as i know yes
[11:45] <nikin> ilu: he is rebooting
[11:45] <ilu> nikin what was his problem?
[11:45] <ilu> ok
[11:45] <nikin> ilu: drivers to
[11:45] <perlmonkey> 11.44am, must be continental europe?
[11:45] <ilu> shit i need to get to the store and shop
[11:46] <heatxsink> anyone know what I need to install to get my bluetooth keyboard and mouse working properly in gnome?
[11:46] <ilu> see yall laters and thanks for all help
[11:46] <nikin> perlmonkey: Hungary
[11:46] <perlmonkey> cool
[11:46] <megatill> asc i'm back :)
[11:46] <holymoly> hide the sheep!
[11:46] <holymoly> *cough*
[11:46] <holymoly> :)
[11:46] <heatxsink> geez
[11:46] <perlmonkey> holymoly: are you Welsh
[11:46] <astro76> !ohmy | ilu
[11:46] <ubotu> ilu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:46] <holymoly> naw, old joke
[11:46] <nikin> !seen p99
[11:46] <Talaman72> p99 was last seen Thu Jul 12 01:52:56 2007 changing nick from afk|p99 in #ubuntu
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen p99 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <perlmonkey> :D
[11:46] <Masura> http://www.myspace.com/raatumraheru
[11:47] <Spaceman3750> Eeew Myspace
[11:47] <ilu> lol?
[11:47] <perlmonkey> ok guys I really must go work, have a good day all
[11:47] <Spaceman3750> ?
[11:47] <Spaceman3750> See ya
[11:47] <Spaceman3750> ChanServ change it's mind about oping PriceChild?
[11:48] <PriceChild> spano
[11:48] <PriceChild> Spaceman3750, no
[11:49] <Doel_Kenyoet> ada indonesian gak ??
[11:52] <astro76> Doel_Kenyoet, #ubuntu-id
[11:52] <unagi> hello all
[11:52] <nikin> i like the ide of chating durning install with livecd :D
[11:53] <Doel_Kenyoet> hello
[11:53] <Spaceman3750> Nikin: It's nice, ain't it?
[11:53] <Doel_Kenyoet> thanks
[11:54] <Spaceman3750> Live CD is good for me too, I'm an independent computer tech, and if I have to deal with a client w/ crashed Windows, I can still get to their files and back them up and reformat
[11:57] <megatill> asc bye sse you later
[11:59] <Doel_Kenyoet> ok
[12:02] <meglo> the nvidia xorg drivers need libc-headers to compile a kernel module, but I don't know what to apt-get, I had to do this before and I remember the required headers not named what you would think they would be
[12:02] <PriceChild> meglo, why are you compiling it yourself?
[12:02] <meglo> Because I can :<
[12:02] <meglo> it works, all I had to do was stop x
[12:02] <PriceChild> meglo, we have prebuilt packages for you... which are supported.
[12:03] <meglo> are they the proprietary drivers from nvidia?
[12:03] <PriceChild> meglo, yes
[12:03] <PriceChild> !nvidia | meglo
[12:03] <ubotu> meglo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:03] <meglo> Well, I'm already knee deep in this, I just need to know the libc header filename, if that can't be provided then I'll look into that link
[12:04] <PriceChild> meglo, I suggest you stop... and read that guide
[12:04] <astro76> meglo, linux-libc-dev ?
[12:04] <astro76> meglo, and what PriceChild said
[12:04] <PriceChild> meglo, the method you are using is not supported by ubuntu and may break if you don't know what you're doing...
[12:04] <Spaceman3750> Something I noticed...  A lot of the programs in the repository start with the letter K...
[12:04] <meglo> it seemed pretty straight forward the first time i did it and it worked, but if you insist
[12:04] <Spaceman3750> Meglo, why make life more difficult on yourself?
[12:05] <Spaceman3750> :P
[12:05] <meglo> it doesn't seem that difficult tho :/
[12:05] <meglo> unless I run into problem
[12:05] <PriceChild> meglo, seriously.. do it the ubuntu way and read that guide
[12:05] <Spaceman3750> Dude, it's Linux...  Anything that doesn't have a UI is difficult :P
[12:05] <astro76> Spaceman3750, sadly most kde programs start with k
[12:05] <PriceChild> Spaceman3750, because kde apps like to start with k, and gnome apps like to start with g
[12:05] <nikin> see you all later...
[12:05] <meglo> ok, thanks
[12:05] <meglo> brb
[12:05] <Spaceman3750> Astro, do KDE programs still run on Gnome, or do you have to be using Kbuntu?
[12:05] <Spaceman3750> I see
[12:06] <PriceChild> Spaceman3750, they work fine
[12:06] <astro76> they will work
[12:06] <PriceChild> Spaceman3750, just not as much bling :)
[12:06] <unagi> i love how customizable linux is
[12:06] <Spaceman3750> Ditto
[12:06] <Spaceman3750> I hear KDE is more like the Windows enviornment, but I don't find the Windows enviornment and the Gnome enviornment much different
[12:07] <unagi> i dont like kde
[12:07] <Olgem> !nvidia
[12:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:07] <Spik1> Problem. im tribooting on a intel macbook with rEFIt. Just installed 7.0.4. when i choose the mac partition, it boots mac. But when i choose the windows or the ubuntu partition, they both boot grep. furthermore my up and down arrows dont work so i cant choose the OS in grep either. it just goes with the first hilighted wich is Ubuntu's normal one. Is there any way to seperate the boot? or at least get it to recognize keystrokes?
[12:07] <pberzosa> ola
[12:07] <PriceChild> pberzosa, espanol?
[12:07] <pberzosa> de donde sois
[12:07] <pberzosa> de donde eres
[12:08] <pberzosa> eeeeeee
[12:08] <PriceChild> pberzosa, /join #ubuntu-es
[12:09] <Spaceman3750> You know the thing I like best about Ubuntu?  Fewer security concerns and the updater doesn't bug you every 5 minutes to reboot :P
[12:09] <unagi> are there viruses for linux?
[12:09] <PriceChild> !virus | unagi
[12:09] <ubotu> unagi: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[12:10] <polarheat> hi, question: is there a "switchdesk" program for ubuntu (i'm using dapper)?
[12:10] <Spaceman3750> There are some in the wild, but not many because there is a very small userbase for Linux, therefore it is not much of a target.  My understanding anyways.
[12:11] <polarheat> Spaceman3750: what do you mean by "small user base" ?
[12:11] <Olgem> <120,000,000 users
[12:11] <Spaceman3750> *Smaller
[12:11] <Spik1> anyone at all? about my boot problem
[12:11] <Spaceman3750> Smaller than Windows
[12:11] <Olgem> restarting, brb