[19:06] <H|V_3ala2> when u boot the live cd press f4
[19:06] <H|V_3ala2> on main screen
[19:07] <H|V_3ala2> wonderfull scobby
[19:07] <H|V_3ala2> : )
[19:07] <H|V_3ala2> cheerz
[19:07] <Zappza> _Zeus_: The Copy2Ram (probably called toram in Ubuntu I think) feature enables you to load the whole LiveCD to RAM which makes everything (!) go extremely fast, since you don't have to rely on a slow CD/USB Stick
[19:07] <scobby_> could it be that gnome-do is now a standard programm under ubuntu??? i didnt installed it nor added it to the session manager
[19:08] <H|V_3ala2> u can't loaD it to ram unless u had at leats 1gig ram
[19:08] <H|V_3ala2> coz the cd size is 668mb -
[19:08] <Zappza> H|V_3ala2: I know that, I have 2 gigs of ram on the weakest PC I will be using this on.
[19:09] <H|V_3ala2> lol
[19:09] <_Zeus_> Zappza: wow, that would be fast
[19:09] <H|V_3ala2> then see,,,when u see the menu
[19:09] <_Zeus_> how much does the strongest have?  3-4?
[19:09] <H|V_3ala2> after language selecton
[19:09] <H|V_3ala2> press f4
[19:09] <Zappza> I have read about the feature, the problem is that I can't find any options to turn it on. I have read something about how to enable it on 7.04, but it was faulty back then, and I think it has been resolved
[19:10] <H|V_3ala2> lol zeus
[19:10] <Zappza> I use a customized boot disk, so the append command and/or kernel options will do :)
[19:10] <Zappza> The strongest one has 4 gigs
[19:11] <H|V_3ala2> how poor is me
[19:11] <_Zeus_> Zappza: mine has 4gb, too
[19:11] <H|V_3ala2> my centrino laptop had 1gig
[19:11] <_Zeus_> (DDR3 :D)
[19:11] <scobby_> i have also 4 gig ddr3
[19:11] <H|V_3ala2> but the lcd screen broken
[19:11] <Zappza> Only DDR2 here, but still. It's more then enough ^^
[19:11] <_Zeus_> nice, scobby_
[19:11] <scobby_> its normal today ;-) look at the price
[19:11] <|neon|> what can i install to make managing the looks under kubuntu , something like control center under kde3 maybe?
[19:11] <_Zeus_> scobby_: what gpu/cpu?
[19:11] <H|V_3ala2> so i Bought that celeron laptop
[19:11] <scobby_> cheaper then mc donalds
[19:12] <H|V_3ala2> loool
[19:12] <_Zeus_> core 2 quad<EMAIL_ADDRESS>here
[19:12] <scobby_> _Zeus_: 1,86 core2duo and a gf 9800gt
[19:12] <H|V_3ala2> nice
[19:12] <scobby_> its ok for me :-)
[19:12] <_Zeus_> i play a lot of video games/rendering
[19:12] <H|V_3ala2> ofcurse ok
[19:12] <_Zeus_> so the cpu is good
[19:12] <H|V_3ala2> I have celeron and it's ok
[19:13] <scobby_> i save the money that you spend for the gtx and buy in 1 your a card that is double so good than a gtx ;-D
[19:13] <_Zeus_> brb, gonna reboot to update ti intrepid
[19:13] <Zappza> H|V_3ala2: Did you know the command? Seemed like you were on your way to something useful a few minutes back :P
[19:13] <H|V_3ala2> tyt
[19:13] <_Zeus_> scobby_: it was only 18-
[19:13] <_Zeus_> sed s/-/0/
[19:13] <scobby_> my was 100
[19:13] <H|V_3ala2> what command>
[19:13] <H|V_3ala2> ?
[19:13] <MTecknology> hurray - found a bug
[19:13] <Zappza> to run the copy2ram command :)
[19:14] <H|V_3ala2> it's already on f4
[19:14] <Zappza> Is it?
[19:14] <H|V_3ala2> isn't it?
[19:14] <Zappza> 2 sex
[19:14] <H|V_3ala2> yea
[19:14] <Zappza> 2 sec :p
[19:14] <H|V_3ala2> I remember that
[19:14] <H|V_3ala2> ok
[19:14] <Zappza> will check out the commands asap :)
[19:14] <H|V_3ala2> ok
[19:14] <H|V_3ala2> I tried to install 8.10 for 6 hourz
[19:15] <MTecknology> In order for me to change screen brightness - I need to run this command "xrandr --output LVDS --set BACKLIGHT_CONTROL native" It works fine but after a certain amount of time, the screen just starts fading to entirely black. :(
[19:15] <H|V_3ala2> just booting and restarting
[19:15] <H|V_3ala2> ooooooops
[19:15] <Zappza> Why did it take so long?
[19:15] <H|V_3ala2> coz of this massege
[19:15] <H|V_3ala2> ACPI: DMI BIOS year==0, assuming ACPI-capable machine
[19:16] <Zappza> Ah
[19:16] <H|V_3ala2> MTeC....is the vga driver found?
[19:16] <H|V_3ala2> I mean recognised?>\
[19:16] <H|V_3ala2> this message says that the date on my bios is 0
[19:16] <H|V_3ala2> lmfao
[19:17] <H|V_3ala2> what's 0???I mean what is it?
[19:17] <H|V_3ala2> lol
[19:17] <H|V_3ala2> null
[19:18] <Zappza> You are living in Year 0 man, you have managed to stop time ^^
[19:18] <H|V_3ala2> hahahahaha
[19:18] <H|V_3ala2> although I doupt that some idiot on siemens company did that
[19:18] <H|V_3ala2> haha
[19:19] <H|V_3ala2> or it's me when I flashed the bios to the new version
[19:20] <H|V_3ala2> only thing that I don't have to worry about,,,the laptop is free
[19:20] <H|V_3ala2> I didn't pay for it....so i can just burn it
[19:20] <H|V_3ala2> or give it to the poor ppl
[19:20] <H|V_3ala2> wb Zeus
[19:20] <_Zeus_> wb?
[19:20] <H|V_3ala2> welcome back
[19:20] <_Zeus_> intrepid=teh work :D
[19:21] <_Zeus_> ah, ty
[19:21] <H|V_3ala2> : )
[19:21] <H|V_3ala2> I like it
[19:21] <H|V_3ala2> I have tested it on my sister's laptop
[19:21] <H|V_3ala2> it was wonderful
[19:21] <H|V_3ala2> like it's really a new born system
[19:21] <_Zeus_> i've been using it since, i think alpha 5
[19:21] <H|V_3ala2> with the old linux commands
[19:22] <_Zeus_> I was using alpha 6, but the i got an update that blacklisted my network card
[19:22] <_Zeus_> even though mine was fine, so i skipped over a7 right to b1
[19:22] <H|V_3ala2> I have read the announcment of alpha,,,,,
[19:22] <H|V_3ala2> they said dun't download it
[19:22] <H|V_3ala2> but it's here
[19:22] <H|V_3ala2> lol
[19:22] <H|V_3ala2> can u resist?
[19:22] <danbh_intrepid> _Zeus_: was there an alpha 7?
[19:22] <H|V_3ala2> hahaha
[19:24] <H|V_3ala2> they say...it's unstable
[19:24] <H|V_3ala2> may not even work
[19:24] <H|V_3ala2> but we go for it
[19:24] <H|V_3ala2> lol
[19:24] <_Zeus_> danbh_intrepid: was there not?
[19:24] <_Zeus_> i thought there was one
[19:25] <danbh_intrepid> !schedule
[19:25] <danbh_intrepid> lets check!
[19:25] <_Zeus_> oops :P
[19:25] <_Zeus_> my bad
[19:25] <Zappza> H|V_3ala2: Can't find the command in any of the menus >.<
[19:25] <Zappza> Which version did you see it on?
[19:25] <H|V_3ala2> r u sure?
[19:25] <H|V_3ala2> 8.10
[19:26] <Zappza> Haven't tried to boot yet, just opening the .cfg files in notepad
[19:26] <MTecknology> !u > H|V_3ala2
[19:26] <H|V_3ala2> ok
[19:27] <MTecknology> H|V_3ala2: I'm using 8.10. I have good reason to be using in, unfortunately I can only use it on a vital production system.
[19:27] <jaysonsantos> Hello people, i'm trying to make my webcam work on intrepid but stil not working. Looking in 'modinfo gspca_main' i see the compiled module don't have all params, like gamma, etc. Anyone know how to configure that ?
[19:27] <MTecknology> !+1
[19:28] <MTecknology> !intrepid
[19:28] <MTecknology> there we go
[19:28] <H|V_3ala2> lol
[19:28] <MTecknology> I suppose I could call for !support too
[19:29] <H|V_3ala2> ubottu?
[19:29] <H|V_3ala2> what's that on the prv8 message?
[19:29] <MTecknology> !u | H|V_3ala2
[19:30] <MTecknology> I still don't get the "governemt officer" part
[19:30] <H|V_3ala2> hahaha
[19:30] <_Zeus_> um, i don't know
[19:30] <MTecknology> H|V_3ala2: not funny - it's annoying to anybody reading
[19:30] <MTecknology> I don't even resond to a text message that uses those
[19:30] <H|V_3ala2> what's it for?
[19:31] <MTecknology> it makes you come across as uneducated or retarded(socially)
[19:31] <H|V_3ala2> huh!
[19:32] <MTecknology> H|V_3ala2: point is - unless it's a common irc shortcut, spell you a word (IRC and IMO for example are ok)
[19:32] <H|V_3ala2> huh!
[19:32] <H|V_3ala2> hahahaha
[19:32] <MTecknology> and those aren't like u... those stand for soemthing

[19:33] <H|V_3ala2> u mean H|V?
[19:33] <H|V_3ala2> on my nickname?
[19:34] <H|V_3ala2> !u
[19:34] <H|V_3ala2> hahaha
[19:34] <MTecknology> H|V_3ala2: grow up
[19:34] <H|V_3ala2> !u MTecknology
[19:34] <ingo0815> has some dell notebook users a problem with fan noise  ?
[19:34] <MTecknology> !stop
[19:34] <ingo0815> my fan is very loud
[19:35] <H|V_3ala2> doesn't know anythin about u
[19:35] <H|V_3ala2> Xd
[19:35] <MTecknology> H|V_3ala2: If you knew how to use ubottu it would have returned a value other than 1
[19:35] <H|V_3ala2> well many laptops got the fan noise
[19:35] <MTecknology> and H|V_3ala2 goes on ignore
[19:36] <H|V_3ala2> haha
[19:36] <MTecknology> ingo0815: did you try blowing out the fan?
[19:36] <sysdoc> ingo0815:  which kernel are you using?
[19:36] <H|V_3ala2> ubottu???it's not a spaceship
[19:36] <ingo0815> the latest kernel
[19:36] <H|V_3ala2> it's just a bot
[19:37] <TripleM> another question: how can i upgrade my Kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 beta?
[19:37] <ingo0815> with the latest updates
[19:37] <danbh_intrepid> !upgrades | TripleM
[19:37] <MTecknology> TripleM: update-manager -d
[19:38] <danbh_intrepid> MTecknology: he's using kubuntu
[19:38] <MTecknology> oh
[19:38] <MTecknology> I use openbox w/ gnome utils install
[19:38] <MTecknology> ed
[19:38] <danbh_intrepid> whats openbox?
[19:38] <sysdoc> ingo0815: there are many heating problems, I have an HP laptop that ran very hot and the 2.6.27 kernel solved that problem. See if your CPU supports scaling
[19:38] <danbh_intrepid> !info openbox
[19:38] <MTecknology> !info openbox
[19:39] <xirdal> !u xirdal
[19:39] <MTecknology> xirdal: please don't
[19:39] <H|V_3ala2> lol
[19:39] <TripleM> yes, i use Kubuntu. but kdesudo "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel" doesn´t work
[19:39] <H|V_3ala2> yea don't,,,,,it's his toy only
[19:40] <xirdal> ok :)
[19:40] <H|V_3ala2> lol
[19:40] <danbh_intrepid> TripleM: what happens?
[19:40] <TripleM> nothing...
[19:40] <MTecknology> xirdal: I can explain ubottu a little in pm if you promise not to let it help the other person spam the channel
[19:40] <ingo0815> i have no heating problem, the fan starts immediately when i am logged in
[19:40] <danbh_intrepid> TripleM: are you fully upgraded?  I dunno...
[19:40] <TripleM> if i type it in console it says something like kdesudo ---dist-upgrade-devel is not allowed or something like that
[19:41] <MTecknology> ingo0815: did you file a bug report at all?
[19:41] <danbh_intrepid> TripleM: ah, thats more than nothing...   can you pastebin the whole thing?
[19:41] <ingo0815> no but i am not alone, see here http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=120200
[19:41] <TripleM> wait a second...
[19:42] <MTecknology> ingo0815: what happens if you do "sudo -s" then "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel" inside it?
[19:42] <TripleM> adept_manager: Unknown option '--dist_upgrade-devel'
[19:42] <xirdal> MTecknology: ok, I'm far from helping someone spam the channel
[19:42] <ingo0815> i will try it, but wait a moment
[19:43] <MTecknology> xirdal: are you registered and identified?
[19:43] <danbh_intrepid> TripleM: kdesudo "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel"
[19:44] <xirdal> registered in NickServ... let me check if I'm identified...
[19:44] <danbh_intrepid> TripleM: you typed the command wrong
[19:44] <Zappza> Does anybody know if this info is still valid? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[19:44] <danbh_intrepid> TripleM: you replaced a - with a _
[19:45] <sysdoc> ingo0815: search launchpad.net in the ubuntu project, you'll find a solutions there
[19:45] <TripleM> damn... :-)
[19:45] <TripleM> the simplest thing and i didn´t see it...
[19:48] <danbh_intrepid> Zappza: whats it supposed to do?  I don't see how you can boot from RAM, since RAM gets wiped when you power down
[19:48] <danbh_intrepid> Zappza: booting 'to' RAM, whats that even mean?
[19:51] <Zappza> It isn't ment to be a permanent install. You copy the LiveCD to RAM, and everything is run from there making Ubuntu extremely fast, as well as making it possible to use the CD/DVD drive for other things than the Ubuntu CD :)
[19:52] <TheInfinity> Zappza: just buy a ram-disc ;)
[19:52] <danbh_intrepid> Zappza: so its a faster live environment?
[19:53] <danbh_intrepid> interesting...
[19:53] <Zappza> Also, if you have three settings in your bootloader, one to make persistant changes, one to boot from RAM using the changes made, only extremely faster, and the last one to boot from the CD for PCs with small amounts of RAM
[19:53] <ingo0815> so i typed adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel
[19:53] <w8tah> is kubuntu ibex gonna be kde3 or kde4?
[19:53] <ingo0815> but nothing changes
[19:53] <Zappza> Last time I checked, the R/W to RAM was approx. 2-3 GB/s, which is quite a lot more than the 12 MB/s I currently get from my USB stick :)
[19:54] <danbh_intrepid> ingo0815: can you pastebin the whole thing?
[19:54] <Zappza> RAM disk = Lot's of money + the requirement for a stationary PC
[19:54] <Zappza> I am running this from my Laptop
[19:54] <danbh_intrepid> Zappza: but Linux cache's reads and writes anyway...
[19:55] <ingo0815> my fan is very loud since i installed today the updates
[19:55] <ingo0815> and a user from here told me to type adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel
[19:55] <Zappza> So that is not an option, and why spend massive amounts of money on a RAM disk, when it is possible to do that for free with a few settings ;)
[19:55] <danbh_intrepid> ingo0815: try this exact command: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop^
[19:56] <ingo0815> i dont use kubuntu
[19:56] <ingo0815> i use ubuntu
[19:56] <Zappza> Yeah, but when you run a LiveCD, each time you do something Ubuntu has to get the data required from somewhere, if you are running it from a DVD, that's where Ubuntu gets the data from, but if you run it from RAM it will get the data there, and that is sooo much faster :)
[19:56] <danbh_intrepid> ingo0815: o           k               .      The person who told you to use that command was quite confused
[19:56] <danbh_intrepid> ingo0815: are you running 8.10?
[19:57] <ingo0815> i use apt-get
[19:57] <ingo0815> yes 8.10
[19:57] <danbh_intrepid> ingo0815: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[19:57] <ingo0815> the newest nvidia driver is the problem, the 173 driver works fine
[19:58] <nottha_k> what version of python is intrepid going to run? or where can I find a list of packages for intrepid?
[19:58] <danbh_intrepid> packages.ubuntu.com
[19:59] <nottha_k> danbh_intrepid: thanks
[20:00] <dmh65> webmin installs fine on Ibex :)
[20:00] <TuniX12> question for intrepid testers does it support RTL8180L wifi chipset  correctly
[20:00] <QV> Zappza: that is sort of how the initrd works... loads the initial fs into ram then boots to it. if you want to implement what you are suggesting i recommend taking a look at that because that is the best place to do so. :)
[20:01] <QV> although, i don't recommend staying in the initrd environment... you should switchroot to your new ramdisk, or better yet, tmpfs to allow swapping unused portions if a swapfile exists
[20:03] <QV> as for a speed boost, i'm not sure how much of a speed boost you will get considering it still has to load things from the CD/DVD initially
[20:04] <QV> and if you have a lot of RAM, the kernel typically caches recently used files in memory... although perhaps you can probably tweak the kernel to be a bit more aggressive at keeping access files in memory
[20:04] <QV> well, caching blocks is probably more accurate, but you get the point ;)
[20:05] <danhm> hi, update-manager had me run a partial upgrade yesterday when I went to update my system
[20:05] <danbh_intrepid> QV: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#Performance%20tuning%20with%20%27%27swappiness%27%27
[20:06] <danhm> it appears to be done, but the window never closed
[20:06] <danhm> is it safe to ctrl+c out of it?
[20:06] <QV> danbh_intrepid: thanks for the link, i'll have a read of it
[20:06] <sysdoc> danhm: I had the same thing happen yesterday
[20:07] <sysdoc> What is the last thing you see in the terminal?
[20:07] <danhm> Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done
[20:07] <danhm> well, a newline is the last thing to be technical
[20:07] <danhm> but that's not very helpful :p
[20:08] <sysdoc> danhm: Yours stopped at a different point than mine, I did ctrl+c out of it and had no problems
[20:08] <sysdoc> Doesn't mean that you won't tho
[20:08] <danhm> alright
[20:09] <danhm> the progress bar is all the way to the right
[20:09] <kane77> !intrepid
[20:09]  * danhm crosses fingers
[20:09] <kane77> ^^ why so gloomy?
[20:09] <sysdoc> danhm: Mine was the same....
[20:11] <dmh65> danhm mine did that today, I just rebooted and all seems fine
[20:11] <danhm> alright, I should be good then :)
[20:11] <danhm> thanks
[20:11] <sysdoc> good luck...:)
[20:12] <dmh65> I couldnt even close the small box
[20:12] <dmh65> it said it was cleaning up but was taking for ever
[20:12] <danhm> yeah
[20:12] <danhm> I started it before I went to sleep
[20:12] <dmh65> lol
[20:14] <dmh65> I usually listen to my pc, if its not whirring away or making any noise after 5 minutes I reboot :)
[20:14] <dmh65> not that it happens that often
[20:14] <QV> dmh65: interesting metric ;)
[20:15] <dmh65> down to earth computing
[20:22] <dmh65> anyone ever upgraded Debian Etch to Ubunyu?
[20:22] <dmh65> Ubuntu*
[20:23] <dmh65> my server people wont let me have Ubuntu
[20:23] <dmh65> stupid really, its free just like Etch
[20:24] <crimsun> yes.  It's feasible but requires hand-holding.  And it's unsupported unless you purchase a support contract.  ;-)
[20:24] <dmh65> I thought there must be a reason
[20:30] <jl_> is samba4 stable yet ? or very experimental ?
[20:31] <_Zeus_> no idea
[20:38] <_Zeus_> anyone know what's up here?
[20:38] <_Zeus_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/55764/
[20:39] <mklebel> when GDM, or Gnome, pretty much anything Xorg related, blinks / flashes and has no window borders, I couldnt even login through GDM, had to use startx from the console....is there a fix?
[20:39] <dmh65> stating the obvious, its a dependency
[20:39] <_Zeus_> dmh65: right... :P
[20:40] <dmh65> try giving it what its asking for
[20:40] <_Zeus_> it looks likt the version of python-compizconfig in the repos is too old
[20:40] <_Zeus_> python-compizconfig:
[20:40] <_Zeus_>   Installed: 0.7.7+git20080618-0ubuntu1
[20:40] <_Zeus_>   Candidate: 0.7.7+git20080618-0ubuntu1
[20:41] <dmh65> I had a similar problem with the fglrx driver earlier, it just wont install
[20:41] <_Zeus_> where as compizconfig-settings-manager says
[20:41] <_Zeus_> Depends: python-compizconfig (>= 0.7.8) but 0.7.7+git20080618-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[20:41] <dmh65> it wont let you
[20:41] <_Zeus_> yes
[20:41] <_Zeus_> bug report?
[20:41] <dmh65> untill Ubuntu say so :)
[20:41] <_Zeus_> or is that not a bug
[20:41] <dmh65> that was my conclusion
[20:42] <_Zeus_> which one?  not a bug?
[20:44] <dmh65> dont think mine was a bug because there is not a fglrx driver for xorg 7.4, so Ubuntu will not let you install it even though its in synaptic because it just wont work or they just do not want you to install it
[20:44] <_Zeus_> i'm asking in the bugs channel
[20:45] <dmh65> ah
[20:47] <Zappza> QV: I only run Linux from a LiveCD, and even then only occasionally. So I think a BootToRam solution will work best, espescially since all programs are loaded into RAM (compressed though, but they will still unpack alot faster from RAM than from USB.
[20:56] <mklebel> Xinerama disables compiz right?
[20:57] <_Zeus_> no idea
[20:59] <shirish> hi all, GNOME freezes quite sometimes when I log in, while using XFCE things are always cool.
[21:00] <shirish> any ideas why is it happening?
[21:02] <SwornPcfst> hey, is anyone available to help: I installed the 8.10 beta on my laptop, everything worked great (including wifi), but after the recommend partial upgrade, I've lost wifi access
[21:03] <rom1v> hi
[21:03] <rom1v> is it normal that since today, I have a lot of refresh problems of screen refresh (nvidia+compiz)?
[21:03] <rom1v> (with intrepid beta)
[21:03] <rom1v> (do you have the same problems?)
[21:06] <nspyr> anyone using vbox with usb support?
[21:12] <SwornPcfst> anyone know how to roll back a Ubuntu update?
[21:12] <SwornPcfst> the recommended update broke my wifi connection
[21:13] <gilligan_> crimsun, hey..
[21:14] <gilligan_> crimsun, 2GB
[21:14] <shirish> SwornPcfst: I hope you do not have a e1000e card
[21:14] <crimsun> SwornPcfst: unless you opted to clear /var/cache/apt/archives, the older version(s) will be there
[21:14] <shirish> SwornPcfst: disregard that comment
[21:14] <gilligan_> crimsun, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/SamsungQ45
[21:15] <gilligan_> crimsun, still waiting for login in tty to complete ...
[21:16] <crimsun> gilligan_: ok, when you have logged in, please pastebin /var/log/dmesg
[21:16] <SwornPcfst> Is there a way to find which network card I have?
[21:16] <gilligan_> crimsun, if that ever happens... ;]
[21:16] <crimsun> SwornPcfst: lspci -v
[21:17] <crimsun> SwornPcfst: also, lshal
[21:17] <SwornPcfst> Thanks Crimsun
[21:18] <cwillu> mvo, ping
[21:18] <gilligan_> crimsun, ever since some time ago (maybe some weeks) the responsiveness of the system got worse... and every now and then it is just completely thrashing like right now - and I think it's usually after long idle times
[21:18] <perillux> after an update a few days ago, now whenever I start firefox it always appears to be in "work offline" mode.  Also for the little icon that shows network connections in the tray, there is now a little x and when I put my mouse over it, it says "no network connections."  This is very strange though because everything works.  I can connect to the internet just fine, the only problem is that firefox is always set to offline mode, and I have
[21:18] <SwornPcfst> hrmm, it's an Atheros AR242x card
[21:19] <gilligan_> magic sysrq isn't enabled by default in intrepid or is it ?
[21:20] <crimsun> gilligan_: it is enabled.
[21:20] <cwillu> perillux, you aren't using network manager to run your network connection.  Firefox grew the ability a while back to monitor the network status, and go into offline mode automatically.  To disable that, go to about:config, and search for toolkit.networkmanager.disable, and set it to true
[21:21] <gilligan_> crimsun, maybe I should dump some info then? you tell me ;]
[21:21] <gilligan_> if that even gets through
[21:21] <crimsun> gilligan_: you could, sure
[21:22] <perillux> cwillu: why am I not using network manager to run my network connections now though?  It used to not be that way.  why has it changed?
[21:22] <cwillu> perillux, I don't know.
[21:23] <perillux> cwillu: is it a bad thing?
[21:24] <cwillu> perillux, granted that it's too late to do anything about it now, but you probably shouldn't be using the beta
[21:24] <cwillu> perillux, install all the updates, reboot, it may have just been a glitch in the network manager
[21:25] <perillux> cwillu: will do.. there's updates available now
[21:25] <shirish> hi all does anybody know how to tar .gnome2 directory?
[21:25] <cwillu> perillux, it's impossible for me to know if your network connection needed manual configuration or not though
[21:25] <jaysonsantos> shirish, Just tar? Or do you want compress too ?
[21:25] <perillux> cwillu: well everything appears to be working just like it always did.  No differences
[21:25] <gilligan_> crimsun, i dumped mem info / regs / state and will try REISUB now hoping the info is contained in /var/log/messages
[21:25] <cwillu> perillux, eh?
[21:25] <shirish> jaysonsantos: I want to tar and compress and give it a different name.
[21:26] <cwillu> perillux, after the upgrade you mean?
[21:26] <jaysonsantos> shirish, tar jcvf gnome.tar.bz2 .gnome
[21:26] <cwillu> mvo, I've got a partial upgrade running under strace right now, I'll ping you again if it hangs
[21:26] <shirish> jaysonsantos: thank you
[21:26] <perillux> cwillu: no, I've been using intrepid for a while, and the network manager was always working.  then the last update came and now it's not working... But, I can still connect to the internet.
[21:27] <shirish> jaysonsantos: it would tar and compress everything inside of it as well, right?
[21:27] <cwillu> perillux, give it a reboot, probably just a network manager update that didn't handle restarting the service properly
[21:27] <jaysonsantos> shirish, Yes. That will tar and compress with bz2
[21:28] <perillux> cwillu: kk
[21:28] <cwillu> perillux, you could probably sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart; sudo killall nm-applet; nm-applet
[21:28] <cwillu> but I don't know for sure that it'll fix it ;p
[21:28] <perillux> cwillu: I'll just upgrade and then restart
[21:28] <cwillu> perillux, there's been kernel updates in the last day or two anyway :p
[21:29] <crimsun> gilligan_: ok, so the problem seems to be evolution{,-data-server} eating tons of RAM?
[21:31]  * cwillu suspects an interaction with indexing email (crimsun, gilligan_)
[21:32] <znoG> the time has come to reboot after upgrading to Intrepid
[21:32] <znoG> i hope it boots!
[21:34] <cwillu> mvo, got it
[21:38] <SwornPcfst> in case anyone's interested, I kinda found the issue with my Atheros card, the upgrade from 2.6.27-4 to 2.6.27-6 broke the wifi ability, booting back into 2.6.27-4 "fixes" the issue
[21:39] <SwornPcfst> thanks for the help
[21:41] <jaysonsantos> Hello people, how can I use usb ports with vbox in intrepid ?
[21:41]  * cwillu really really hopes SwornPcfst filed a bug
[21:46] <nspyr> jaysonsantos: mines not working either
[21:49] <Kamilion> Anyone having odd issues with radeon cards and older monitors?
[21:50] <Kamilion> I've got a sony 1280x768 LCD that worked fine with hardy, but intrepid screws it all up. Same xorg.conf, AMD 780G with onboard Radeon HD 3200.
[21:51] <danbh_intrepid> fglrx?  or whatever its called?
[21:51] <Kamilion> Now the monitor just displays "Resolution not supported". Checking the xorg log shows that it's using 116somethingx84something resolution
[21:51] <Kamilion> I can't figure out how to get fglrx installed on intrepid
[21:52] <Kamilion> trying to install it resulted in synaptic offering to remove the entire xorg tree and ubuntu-desktop.
[21:52] <Sergiu> why the ubuntu 8.10 don't reboot properly
[21:52] <Sergiu> )
[21:52] <nickrud> Kamilion, I was just looking that over: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_restricted_drivers_manually
[21:53] <Kamilion> I was more curious if anyone else had been affected.
[21:53] <cwillu> has ati even released fglrx for xorg 1.5 yet?
[21:53] <noodlesgc> I dont think so
[21:53] <Kamilion> Nope
[21:53] <nickrud> Kamilion, from what I've found so far (10 minutes, but reliable sources) 8.9 doesn't support xorg 1.4
[21:53] <Kamilion> so I gotta downgrade xorg, apparently.
[21:54] <cwillu> Kamilion, link?
[21:54] <Kamilion> Well, that still doesn't change the fact that the open drivers hardy was running fine with don't work properly anymore, at least with my monitor (and I verified that it transmits the proper EDID codes and everything)
[21:54] <Kamilion> cwillu: Link to where?
[21:54] <cwillu> 'gotta downgrade xorg, apparently' sounded like you read it somewhere
[21:55] <Kamilion> The link nickrud posted a couple lines up
[21:55] <cwillu> Kamilion, does it work without an xorg.conf file?
[21:55] <Kamilion> "The latest drivers from AMD (Catalyst 8.9) does not support the version of X that comes with Intrepid (xorg 7.4). That means that for now, X must be downgraded for it to work. Cross your fingers and toes that ATI/AMD will support Xorg 7.4 soon. :) "
[21:55] <nickrud> cwillu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex/TechnicalOverview
[21:55] <Kamilion> Not sure. I have the default xorg.conf still. It's pretty bare.
[21:55] <cwillu> Kamilion, it should be
[21:56] <Kamilion> I know, bulletproof X and all the good stuff.
[21:57] <cwillu> not bulletproof X (that's something separate), just the autoconfiguration + xrandr 1.2
[21:57] <Kamilion> I was running hardy with the open drivers just fine previously (No fglrx)
[21:57] <Kamilion> The odd thing is, I only get the top left corner of the display to show, but it shows the bottom right of the framebuffer there.
[21:58] <Sergiu> anyone know, dose displayconfig-gtk package come with-in ubuntu 8.10? I want to change the screen resolution but terminal says this command is not found G
[21:58] <Kamilion> I'm still in 'figure out what's breaking it and is it only on my end?" mode.
[21:59] <nickrud> gonna do my first install of intrepid tonight. 3 weeks out is my normal mode :)
[21:59] <Kamilion> I havn't found a bug report in launchpad that lists anything close to my environment, so I'm still assuming it's a local me-only problem
[21:59] <znoG> well, first impressions ... intrepid looks good!
[21:59]  * nickrud is so glad he bought an nvidia card recently
[21:59] <strange> hey guys i upgraded to intrepid and im having problems with my screen not redrawing
[21:59] <Kamilion> I'm running intrepid fine on 3 other desktops and two laptops
[21:59] <cwillu> Sergiu, gnome-display-properties
[22:00] <Sergiu> znoG, yes, but the hardware driver didn't install
[22:00] <Sergiu> :D
[22:00] <Kamilion> this is the only one with major problems.
[22:00] <Sergiu> and the "reboot" didn't reboot system properly
[22:00] <Sergiu> )
[22:01] <Sergiu> cwillu, i have tried this app, but there is not needed resolution ..
[22:02] <Sergiu> no*
[22:02] <Kamilion> Sergiu: have you checked that your monitor is sending a proper EDID with it's native resolution?
[22:02] <znoG> during the upgrade, the "cleanup" stage failed as i lost networy connectivity ... is there any way to run it again?
[22:02] <Sergiu> Kamilion, don't know
[22:03] <Sergiu> Kamilion, my monitor is fine
[22:04] <Sergiu> )
[22:04]  * Eluxzen is away: Away
[22:04] <Sergiu> i will try to enable restricted drivers, maybe this will add some new resolutions to nome-display-properties
[22:04] <Kamilion> One of my monitors has a weird EDID that lists HD video modes first (480P, 720P, 1080i, 1080P) then the native 1920x1200 resolution. In that order.
[22:04] <Kamilion> Every time X starts up, it defaults to 480P.
[22:05] <Sergiu> my monitor is CTR 17
[22:05] <Sergiu> support up to 1600x1200
[22:05] <Sergiu> CRT
[22:06] <Kamilion> yeah, but if it doesn't list 1600x1200 first in the EDID, X won't use it, assuming it's native resolution is lower and scaling is used to achieve the higher resolutions (which is common with LCD/Plasma screens)
[22:07] <mikedep333> hello, isn't there a command to remount all your filesystems according to your current fstab?
[22:08] <johnflux_> I just upgraded to 8.10  and now kdm doesn't load :-)
[22:08] <johnflux_> X starts up and I see a nice swirly background
[22:08] <johnflux_> but that's it
[22:08] <johnflux_> (also, djview package seems to be broken)
[22:08] <johnflux_> I tried  apt-get install --reinstall kdm   but no luck
[22:09] <Kamilion> johnflux_: There's always the workaround of text-login / startx for now. ;)
[22:09] <johnflux_> Kamilion it's a known problem?
[22:10] <Kamilion> Dunno, but that's the easiest thing I can think of to get you into X.
[22:10] <johnflux_> Kamilion ah well I can probably fix it
[22:10] <mikedep333> oh, mount -a
[22:10] <strange> anyone had issues on intrepid with screen not redrawing correctly?
[22:10] <johnflux_> Kamilion just wanted to know if it's a known problem or there's a known proper solution or someting
[22:10] <cwillu> mikedep333, won't remount though
[22:12] <johnflux_> hmm kdm_greet is at 100%
[22:12] <znoG> anyone else notice screen refreshes are a little slow ?
[22:12] <Sergiu> gg
[22:12] <Kamilion> johnflux_: I'm not a dev, so I couldn't tell you. But as a user, at least I can tell you how to get back into X
[22:12] <znoG> in Intrepid
[22:13] <johnflux_> Kamilion thanks :)
[22:13] <znoG> never mind, my bad
[22:14] <strange> znoG: yes that is my issue
[22:14] <Sergiu> why after reboot all my network settings are reseted
[22:14] <strange> znoG: parts of hte screen refresh after a minute or so
[22:14] <Sergiu> and the resolution is slow, i can't change it
[22:14] <Sergiu> is small
[22:15] <znoG> strange: oh, it's not that bad here.
[22:15] <Kamilion> Sergiu: upgrade or fresh install?
[22:15] <Sergiu> Kamilion, fresh install
[22:15] <Sergiu> i wonder how to change resolution :D
[22:16] <Sergiu> in future
[22:16] <Kamilion> Sergiu: Wish I could help ya. I'm not familiar with networkmanager 0.7 yet.
[22:16] <strange> im not happy wiht my upgrade alot of stuff is buggy i think im gonna have to do a fresh install
[22:16] <Kamilion> Besides, I do most of my network config through static DHCP.
[22:17] <Sergiu> Kamilion how to restart the networking and nameservers ?
[22:17] <Kamilion> strange: give xubuntu a shot and see if you have the same problem.
[22:17] <Kamilion> Sergiu: /etc/init.d/networking restart    ?
[22:18] <Sergiu> thanks.
[22:18] <Kamilion> nameserver lookups should detect changes to /etc/resolv.conf immediately without needing to kill or restart anything.
[22:18] <x1250> could someone give advice on bug #280813 ?
[22:21] <BenHoltz> the latest compiz update jacked my compiz up... anyone care to help me?
[22:22] <linny> what do you mean jacked up ?
[22:22] <Kamilion> BenHoltz: What are the symptoms of being 'jacked up'? The more specific the better.
[22:22] <BenHoltz> Linny: it will not load
[22:22] <BenHoltz> :)
[22:23]  * BenHoltz needs to explain..
[22:23] <Kamilion> Segmentation fault, fallback problems, corrupt display?
[22:23] <BenHoltz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/55790/
[22:24] <BenHoltz> that's the output of compiz --replace
[22:24] <Kamilion> looks like it's not detecting a DRI 3D adapter
[22:24] <BenHoltz> Please note, that I'm using a hybrid version of studio
[22:25] <Kamilion> And I'd assume this is also a problem: libccs: dlopen: /usr/lib/compizconfig/backends/libgconf.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:25] <Kamilion> But as I'm not much of a compiz user, I'm not sure what to tell you.
[22:27] <KlrSpz> The fglrx and two of the older nvidia binary drivers are not available for X.Org 7.4 yet, so users of these drivers will be automatically switched to the corresponding open source drivers.
[22:27] <nspyr> dont you need to have metacity installed?
[22:27] <nspyr> BenHoltz: do you?
[22:27] <strange> downgrading nvidia fixed my problem
[22:27] <strange> revision 173
[22:27] <Kamilion> From what I can see from your log though, it looks like it's falling back to indirect rendering (mesa, perhaps?) and also that it can't load it's configuration from gconf.
[22:27] <strange> 177 gave me errors
[22:27] <BenHoltz> nspyr: Yes, it was working yesterday
[22:28] <MadsRH> Hi. How do I write the location on this project https://launchpad.net/syllabus   in this format  bazaar.launchpad.net/~registrant/project/branch
[22:28] <nspyr> BenHoltz: do you have compiz-config-backend-gconf installed?
[22:28] <KlrSpz> which driver are you using? the testing page states that the new drivers are incompatible with xorg7.4
[22:29] <BenHoltz> nspyr: yes, it was recently upgraded...
[22:31] <RAOF> BenHoltz: It looks like you've managed to half-upgrade your compiz.  Which shouldn't happen.
[22:31] <BenHoltz> RAOF: yay... the fix is to re-install?
[22:31] <nspyr> BenHoltz: compiz-wrapper?
[22:32] <RAOF> BenHoltz: Maybe.  Possibly you just need to run aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade again.
[22:32] <Kamilion> RAOF: hm, I'm not familiar with that aptitude command, is that like apt-get dist-upgrade?
[22:32] <RAOF> Kamilion: Yes.
[22:33] <Kamilion> RAOF: Better / Worse?
[22:33] <Kamilion> or just different way of kicking it off?
[22:33] <BenHoltz> RAOF: no dice.. No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[22:34] <RAOF> BenHoltz: Hm.  Well, I've just upgraded my compiz to the latest version in the archives, and it doesn't suffer from that.  Why not try "sudo aptitude reinstall ~ncompiz"?
[22:34] <Kamilion> BenHoltz: I'd say try removing compiz (not purge) and reinstalling it.
[22:34] <BenHoltz> RAOF: having ubuntu studio on here has caused me more problems then its worth.. how do I go back to vanilla ubuntu?
[22:35] <RAOF> Kamilion: That's what "aptitude reinstall" is for :)
[22:36] <Kamilion> Eh, I came from gentoo/LinuxFromScratch so I'm used to doing steps manually to assure myself I've done it right ;)
[22:36] <RAOF> Kamilion: aptitude full-upgrade is the equivalent aptitude command to apt-get dist-upgrade; they both basically to the same thing.  I just prefer aptitude; it seems to give more useful errors ;)
[22:36] <Kamilion> Hm. I'll keep that in mind. (more useful errors)
[22:39] <BenHoltz> RAOF: did the re-install... no dice... same errors
[22:39] <Kamilion> ... !
[22:39] <RAOF> Hm.  Can you pastebin "dpkg --list | grep compiz"?
[22:39] <Kamilion> BenHoltz: Try switching mirrors. Perhaps the one you're using is out of date?
[22:40] <Kamilion> I had that problem using duke.edu's mirror previously.
[22:40] <BrianFreytag> duke sucks.. that's why ;)
[22:41]  * Kamilion shrugs. It was fast. Probably because it sucks. ;)
[22:41] <Kage_Jittai> will kubuntu intrepid have kde4?
[22:41] <BenHoltz> I have archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner
[22:41] <BrianFreytag> Kage_Jittai: yes
[22:41] <Kage_Jittai> Sweetness
[22:42] <Sergiu> hey peoples, can i install displayconfig-gtk package in 8.10 ?
[22:42] <BenHoltz> can someone help me get rid of the studio extras and go back to just regular ubuntu?
[22:43] <Sergiu> with what?
[22:43] <znoG> is anyone happily running intrepid? :P
[22:43] <BenHoltz> yes, and no
[22:43] <BrianFreytag> yes and no
[22:43] <sysdoc> yea love it
[22:43] <znoG> i'm liking it so far
[22:43] <Sergiu> znoG, i have found what network-manager regenerate all the time resolv.conf after rebooting
[22:43] <znoG> but i can imagine getting a distribution release ready that works for soooooooo many people is no easy task
[22:43] <Sergiu> and i need to edit this file again
[22:44] <Sergiu> finnely, i removed the netwokr-manager
[22:44] <Sergiu> :DD
[22:44] <BenHoltz> anyone have a solution to my question though?
[22:44] <znoG> Sergiu: oh ... didn't do that with hardy?
[22:44] <Sergiu> :evil:
[22:44] <Sergiu> znoG, nope )
[22:45] <Sergiu> why in piding there are no an :evil: smile ?
[22:45] <Sergiu> :D
[22:46] <Sergiu> need to ask the pidgin team
[22:46] <Sergiu> and probaly this was an offtopic
[22:47] <BenHoltz> nevermind about my question... I'll just live with it like this...
[22:48] <Kamilion> BenHoltz: Sec, trying to look it up
[22:48] <znoG> Sergiu: it's probably dhclient overwriting your resolv.conf, not network-manager.
[22:48] <BenHoltz> Kamilion: I figured out I don't have the whole package...
[22:49] <Sergiu> znoG, are you running ubuntu 8.10 now?)
[22:49] <BenHoltz> Kamilion: I only have partials
[22:49] <znoG> Sergiu: yes
[22:49] <Kamilion> I think you should be able to apt-get purge ubuntu-studio && apt-get autoremove
[22:49] <znoG> actually i'm not sure what network-manager uses to fetch it's IP address
[22:49] <Kamilion> but I'm not 100% sure
[22:49] <znoG> it doesn't depend on dhcp3 as I would have thought
[22:49] <visik7> hi
[22:49] <Sergiu> znoG, have you succeed to change the screen resolution in whatever you need?
[22:49] <znoG> Sergiu: yes
[22:49] <visik7> anyone got problem with boot on some asus laptops ?
[22:50] <znoG> i'm using an extended desktop and i changed resolutions .. worked fine
[22:50] <Plz> visik7: I have lot`s of problems booting on Fujitsu-siemens E8110.
[22:50] <znoG> Sergiu: you might want to try backing up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ... then restart X
[22:50] <Plz> I just stop in the loadingscreen at about 20%.
[22:50] <Plz> It*
[22:51] <Plz> When it happends I just reboot a few times and then it works.
[22:51] <znoG> Sergiu: i'm pretty sure your resolv.conf problem is due to dhclient overwriting the file
[22:51] <Sergiu> ok
[22:54] <visik7> Plz: intrepid here doesn't boot if the AC is plugged /sbin/udevadm lock my machne
[22:55] <ikonia> visik7: thats very odd
[22:56] <visik7> I should report something like a bug maybe
[22:57] <ikonia> certainly seems worth reporting
[22:58] <tretle> hi, is there an issue with rhythmbox on intrepid atm?
[23:00] <Plz> No idea tbh.
[23:00] <Plz> I`m only using VLC and Songbird.
[23:01] <visik7> any clue on how to debug it ?
[23:02] <ikonia> visik7: I'd boot single user mode, see if that makes a difference
[23:02] <etesla> Is there a changelog or anything like that for Heron -> Ibex anywhere?
[23:03] <ikonia> visik7: then walk though the init scripts
[23:03] <visik7> no, single user mode doesn't hang
[23:04] <RAOF> etesla: There's the release notes.  But if you wanted a full changelog, it's _huge_ (and not written down in any one place).
[23:06] <etesla> RAOF: Gotcha. If I wanted to find out if a problem with my video card has been fixed (or a patch applied), would that information be available somewhere?
[23:07] <derekS> .win 2
[23:09] <RAOF> etesla: In the changelog for your driver package, if everyone has done their jobs right.
[23:09] <RAOF> etesla: packages.ubuntu.com should have links to the changelog.
[23:11] <danbh_intrepid> etesla: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
[23:23] <Plz> After updating CompizConfig is fucked up. Can`t edit anything and mini/maxi windows has another effect than what I configured.
[23:29] <BrianFreytag> Plz.. language
[23:29] <Kamilion> Gotta reboot. BBL.
[23:33] <JasonWoof> "desktop effects" workes on my dell inspirot 5100 on the intrepid beda live CD!
[23:34] <JasonWoof> very cool
[23:34] <Plz> It did work good untill I updated 8.10 today...
[23:34] <JasonWoof> I couldn't turn off the automounting of USB disks though. I ran polkit-gnome-authorization and turned it off there
[23:34] <Plz> Had no problem before with 8.10.
[23:35] <JasonWoof> but my usp stick kept getting mounted. very annoying. I was trying to run the "install to USB", but it kept failing because gnome kept mounting stuff it was trying to work with
[23:36] <shiiizoon> I am using Ubuntu 8.10 BETA in my notebook. The wireless driver "wl" not support "monitor mode"? I am trying to use Kismet, but don't work!
[23:38] <JasonWoof> wait, this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent?highlight=(drive)|(usb)#Live USB creator (GUI-based, runs from Live CD)
[23:39] <JasonWoof> says that the "install to USB" thing is on the intrepid livecd
[23:39] <JasonWoof> but I couldn't find it, and installd hardy debs of it (onto my system while booted from intrepid beta CD)
[23:40] <Pici> JasonWoof: Did you log a bug that it was not working?
[23:42] <amrik> gksu crashes when asking for a password and compiz is enabled
[23:42] <amrik> if compiz is disabled i get the "enter password" box fine
[23:42] <JasonWoof> Pici: I didn't realize until now that the intrepid CD was even supposed to have the "install to usb" program
[23:43] <JasonWoof> Pici: and even now I'm not sure
[23:43] <Pici> JasonWoof: Ah, I see.
[23:44] <Kamilion> JasonWoof: What command might that be?
[23:45] <JasonWoof> shiiizoon: you got one of these? Known supported cards: Atmel_USB, ACX100, ADMTek, Atheros, Cisco, Prism2, Orinoco, WSP100, Drone, wtapfile, pcapfile, wrt54g, ipw2100, rt2400, rt2500, rt73, rt8180, ipw2200, ipw2915, ipw3945, iwl3945, iwl4965, Broadcom 43xx
[23:45] <Kamilion> JasonWoof: the instal-to-usb, I mean
[23:45] <JasonWoof> Kamilion: I did it all with the mouse. I downloaded the normal intrepid beta cd, hunted in the menus
[23:46] <Kamilion> Huh. I'll hunt it down myself as well then.
[23:46] <Kamilion> Thanks.
[23:47] <JasonWoof> Kamilion: I downloaded this: http://ppa.launchpad.net/probono/ubuntu/pool/main/l/liveusb/liveusb_0.1.0_all.deb
[23:47] <JasonWoof> Kamilion: following links from here: https://launchpad.net/liveusb
[23:47] <JasonWoof> that gave me a .deb on my desktop, I double-clicked that, and it installed two dependancies, and the package
[23:48] <Kamilion> Oh, cool. Thanks. I'll give that a shot myself to have a second installation on my USB key
[23:48] <JasonWoof> "install to USB" showed up in the "system -> administration" menu
[23:48] <Kamilion> If you've got a U3 compatible USB flash device, check this out: http://blog.sllabs.com/2008/05/booting-heron-from-u3.html
[23:48] <JasonWoof> Kamilion: I couldn't get it to work, I think the auto-mounter was conflicting with liveusb
[23:50] <Kamilion> try unmounting the device first. AFAIK to boot from a USB harddrive (flash), it needs to install a bootsector, which means the drive needs a MBR. A lot of flash drives I've run into have no MBR and are just set up as FAT32 on the entire device (IE, /dev/sda is VFAT, not /dev/sda1)
[23:50] <shiiizoon> JasonWoof:  i have Broadcom 43xx
[23:51] <shiiizoon> JasonWoof: but when i try change my interface mode to monitor, return a error
[23:51] <JasonWoof> Kamilion: the u3 thing is cool!
[23:52] <JasonWoof> Kamilion: I did unmount it. the rouble is that gnome re-mounts my flash stick in the middle of liveusb working on it
[23:52] <JasonWoof> presumably right after it's partitioned and formatted
[23:53] <Kamilion> yeah, works great. I have hardy32 on my sandisk cruzer titanium, and intrepid64 on my sandisk cruzer micro. Both 4GB drives.
[23:53] <JasonWoof> cool
[23:53] <Kamilion> Ahhh. yeah, it probably is remounting it when the kernel re-reads the partition table.
[23:53] <JasonWoof> that should be able to boot my gf's damn macbook air
[23:53] <Kamilion> If you've got a windows box around somewhere, find the HP flash drive formatter and use that to prep the stick first
[23:54] <JasonWoof> shiiizoon: that sucks. you may have to use a different driver. my laptop has a builtin broadcom 4309. gave me trouble, and now I don't think it works at all anymore
[23:55] <Kamilion> IIRC you need fwcutter-43xx or something
[23:55] <JasonWoof> Kamilion: yeah, I went through all that
[23:55] <JasonWoof> shiiizoon: does your broadcom card work with the wl driver?!
[23:56] <shiiizoon> JasonWoof: yes, works perfectly
[23:56] <JasonWoof> shiiizoon: did you have to do the fwcutter thing?
[23:56] <Kamilion> shiiizoon: IIRC the 43xx needs to be patched to use monitor mode... But maybe that's just for packet injection.
[23:56] <shiiizoon> JasonWoof: checkout http://tiagosc.pastebin.com/m537313f4
[23:57] <JasonWoof> shiiizoon: yep, I used to get errors like that
[23:57] <JasonWoof> shiiizoon: even when doing normal stuff, like "iwconfig essid xxx"
[23:57] <shiiizoon> JasonWoof: yeah
[23:58] <JasonWoof> dunno if it's crappy hardware, crappy drivers, or both
[23:58] <JasonWoof> I suspect both
[23:58] <Kamilion> Little of column A, little of column B.


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