[00:00] <danand_> Matthe1 - ok :) ... i'll take a look
[00:00] <bastian> hola
[00:00] <bastian> que tal
[00:00] <brianlight> Flyerfye what are you trying to install?
[00:00] <bastian> cm estan
[00:00] <bastian> bien o mal
[00:00] <Flannel> !es | bastian
[00:00] <ubotu> bastian: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:01] <Flyerfye> UT2004
[00:02] <mDemocritus> what's up steve
[00:02] <crshman> thanks Flannel!
[00:02] <jshriver_> hello
[00:02] <jshriver_> I added a new user for my girlfriend, but when she logs into her account it's like the wm isn't loading.
[00:02] <brianlight> are you using the install program on disk?
[00:02] <jshriver_> I get the top and bottom bars, but when I launch a program it has now window
[00:02] <jshriver_> any ideas?
[00:03] <brianlight> copy the install program to desktop then try running it from there
[00:03] <mDemocritus> sayers: hah i know where you work
[00:03] <brianlight> if you are running the install program from cdrom dvdrom it may not let you eject
[00:03] <brianlight> when you need to change disks
[00:03] <danand_> Matthe1 - ok. are you able to see all the partitions on your disk at the moment. or are some still missing? can you run the command blkid in a terminal and pastebin the output for me?
[00:04] <andylockran> you too Mik1
[00:04] <andylockran> :p
[00:04] <sayers> mDemocritus, do you even know me?
[00:04] <mDemocritus> heh i believe so
[00:04] <jshriver_> what is the gnome wm called?
[00:04] <bazhang> !ot
[00:04] <mDemocritus> you live in IL, no?
[00:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:04] <unop> jshriver_, metacity
[00:04] <jshriver_> let me try running that, brb
[00:04] <tiags> pum
[00:04] <brianlight> Flyerfye you may also want to get an updated installer from http://liflg.org/
[00:05] <sayers> mDemocritus, no I live in michigan
[00:05] <mDemocritus> whoops... the nick looked familiar...   /offtopic
[00:05] <unop> jshriver_, what you could do is delete the ~/.gnome, ~/.gconf and ~/.metacity directories in her $HOME dir, it usually resets everything back to the defults
[00:05] <Matthe1> danand_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60357/
[00:06] <danand_> Matthe1 - cool .... think you deleted one of the entries for your /dev/hda partitions ...
[00:06] <Matthe1> danand_: eek!
[00:07] <danand_> Matthe1 - just gonna take a look ...
[00:07] <adorablepuppy> Anyone know of a way to browse the filesystem on a BREW based phone on linux? I tried bitpim, but there is too much restriction on the directories I can enter.
[00:07]  * danand_ reminds Matthe1 to always make a copy of important files when editing...
[00:08] <Matthe1> danand_: But that would be sensible and not half as fun....... ;-)
[00:08] <brynjolf> How do I disable a network card from loading with networkManager? I tried blacklisting r8169 but somehow it finds it anyhow
[00:08] <Mik1> Hey people -Can ask - trying to get Ubuntu (Gutsy - i think) installed on a Dell Lattitude D800 - having problems setting up an external USB keyboard & mouse - keyboard works - mouse appears (in /dev/input) but it doesn't work - anyone got any ideas - I'm thinking it might be X11 Configuration?
[00:09] <jshriver_> thanks, if I type metacity in it starts fine and I have borders now
[00:09] <jshriver_> but as soon as I log out and log back in it's not starting metacity
[00:09] <danand_> Matthe1 - my mistake ... both your hda partitions are ok ... :)
[00:09] <unop> Mik1, you can try reconfiguring xorg - sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[00:09] <Dr_willis_> Mik1:  by default the x config looks at /dev/input/mice  - Try rebooting with the mouse plugged in? try  try just restrting the x Server with it plugged in?
[00:09] <Matthe1> danand_: phew!
[00:09] <unop> jshriver_, what you could do is delete the ~/.gnome, ~/.gconf and ~/.metacity directories in her $HOME dir, it usually resets everything back to the defults
[00:10] <Pelo> jshriver_, open the appearance dialog,  click on desktropi effects,  select the custom one,  and check the decorator box
[00:10] <Mik1> unop : i'm running the live DVD version - can I still run that?
[00:10] <jshriver_> k thanks
[00:10] <compu73rg33k> I'm have the amd64 bit architecture, but I'm running xchat and it fails to load the fish plugin citing "wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32"
[00:10] <unop> Mik1, sure
[00:10] <Pelo> compu73rg33k, ask in #xchat
[00:10] <compu73rg33k> I would  be willing to install the i386 version of xchat, but  how do I go about doing that, is that possible on amd64/
[00:10] <RabidWeezle> psst, why does emacs have a psychotherapist built in?
[00:11] <RabidWeezle> is that concidered useful in a text editor these days?
[00:11] <Mik1> Dr_willis - I just booted with the wireless USB dongle attached - it's a wireless deskset...
[00:11] <Pelo> compu73rg33k, 32 bit os work on 64 bit machines,  in fact when in comes to ubuntu we recommend it
[00:11] <compu73rg33k> Pelo, I came in here b/c of the second part of my message, sorry shoulda included it in the first
[00:11] <Mik1> Dr_willis : but no sign of life in the mouse...
[00:11] <compu73rg33k> because packages just aren't up to speed of adoption?
[00:12] <Dr_willis_> Mik1:  check dmesg command, befor/after plugging in the dongle.
[00:12] <danand_> Matthe1 - was that the only output from blkid command? if so, take a look in /dev/disk/by-uuid.... does ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid list your /dev/hdb drive?
[00:12] <Pelo> compu73rg33k,  I'm not sure about running 32 bit apps on 64 bits os,  I know it can be done with the proper 32 bit libs but it's a bit over my head
[00:12] <compu73rg33k> well I downloaded from the ubuntu site the i386 version and tried to install it with "dpkg -i package.deb" and it erred " package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[00:12] <compu73rg33k> "
[00:12] <Dr_willis_> Mik1:  also you may need to hit the reset button on the mouse if it has one. some of mine do
[00:12] <Matthe1> danand_: yes it does
[00:13] <danand_> Matthe1 - sorry ... can you pastebin it... for some reason your /dev/hdb disk didn't show up in the blkid command output :(
[00:14] <Matthe1> danand_: will I have more luck using the UUID in my fstab file?#
[00:14] <unop> compu73rg33k, i think it'd be best if you installed xchat32 in a 32 bit chroot -- see !chroot for more
[00:14] <danand_> Matthe1 - its the "correct" way to do it really
[00:14] <compu73rg33k> !chroot
[00:14] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[00:14] <Matthe1> danand_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60359/
[00:14]  * Pelo just learned something
[00:15] <Flannel> compu73rg33k: Whats wrong with the 64bit version of xchat?
[00:15] <arooni-mobile> is there software that lets me simply & easily edit 3 or 4 video files.... all i want to do is cut them together to upload to youtube.......... how can i do this?
[00:16] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, avidemux
[00:16] <danand_> Matthe1 - ok, cool. Give me ten mins... i'll try and sort out that /etc/fstab file for you :) .... its a bit of a mess....
[00:16] <Dek80> Hello all
[00:16] <CokeNCode> ok, so, i blew up my motherboard, and had to swap it out for a new one
[00:16] <CokeNCode> how do i go about reparing my ubuntu installation
[00:16] <danand_> Matthe1 - i'll brb...
[00:16] <CokeNCode> so that it'll work with my new motherboard
[00:16] <Mik1> Dr_willis - wow - I just ran dmesg - is that like a complete dump of the memory?
[00:16] <compu73rg33k> Flannel, fish plugin doesn't work for me
[00:17] <jappdev> CokeNCode: did you change the HD?
[00:17] <Pelo> CokeNCode, copy your /home folder to a seperate partiton and clean install
[00:17] <unop> arooni-mobile, check out ffmpeg or mplayer's mencoder to convert a bunch of video files to a single .flv
[00:17] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, ok so i have it downloaded & opened the 5 videos
[00:17] <CokeNCode> jappdev nope
[00:17] <CokeNCode> same hard drive
[00:17] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, whats next?'
[00:17] <CokeNCode> just a different motherboard
[00:17] <kitche> Mik1: umm no it's a boot log or a kernel log depending on which log you want to look at
[00:17] <CokeNCode> i want to repair the ubuntu installation
[00:18] <CokeNCode> the only thing that has changed, is the motherboard
[00:18] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, clip and paste
[00:18] <CokeNCode> and chiop
[00:18] <CokeNCode> *chip
[00:18] <Matthe1> danand_: brilliant, thanks, I might have to run before you get back. Will leave logging on so I don't miss anything.
[00:18] <Mik1> Dr_willis : got some more information : from dmesg
[00:18] <Mik1> [    4.688000] input,hiddev96: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [MOSART Semi. Wireless Keyboard & Mouse] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2
[00:18] <Mik1> [    4.688000] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
[00:18] <Mik1> [    4.688000] /build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.22-2.6.22/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver
[00:18] <jappdev> well, the safest way is to backup your home and clean install, like Pelo said, but it might boot w/o problem if you havent' changed too much
[00:18] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, which menu is that on
[00:18] <kitche> !paste | Mik1
[00:18] <ubotu> Mik1: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[00:18] <fuoco> ciao a tutti
[00:18] <kitche> Mik1: please paste that information since it can clutter the channel
[00:19] <bazhang> !it | fuoco
[00:19] <ubotu> fuoco: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[00:19] <unop> !it | fuoco
[00:19] <fuoco> ok scusa
[00:19] <fuoco> buona notte
[00:19] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, i'm really trying hard to figure out how this works
[00:19] <arooni-mobile> but cant
[00:19] <fuoco> ;)
[00:19] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, using the button at the bottom select the portion of movie you want to select,  use the copy in the edit menu to copy, then change files,  seelct where in the file you want to paste and paste from the the edit menu
[00:19] <danand_> Matthe1 - k :) will pastebin the link
[00:20] <CokeNCode> thanks jappdev
[00:20] <Pelo> arooni-mobile,  if you don'T need to clip the videos,  I beleve there is a add a file to video in the menus somewhere
[00:20] <Mik1> ok - so http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60360/
[00:20] <CokeNCode> i have a windows server 2003 hard drive in here also
[00:20] <CokeNCode> which i disconnect when i'm running ubuntu
[00:20] <CokeNCode> and i had to do a repair on that
[00:20] <compu73rg33k> hmm unop you think it's worth it to make a chroot install of 32 bit just for this? seems liek it'll clutter the computer, and is a little complicated ... is it easy to do?
[00:20] <CokeNCode> so, i was wondering if i'd have to do the same thing with ubuntu
[00:20] <Mik1> i think this shows the presence of the mouse, and it being on the USB Hub
[00:20] <CokeNCode> the repair worked like a charm
[00:21] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, you're right
[00:21] <CokeNCode> i have a bunch of setting that i don't want to lose
[00:21] <CokeNCode> like, firestarter
[00:21] <CokeNCode> etc
[00:21] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, how can i reduce the resolution
[00:21] <arooni-mobile> of the file
[00:21] <arooni-mobile> the output
[00:21] <Pelo> arooni-mobile,  you just lost 10 points for doubting
[00:21]  * arooni-mobile sighs :(
[00:21] <jappdev> if you back up your home directory, it will grab all of your settings (i just had and hd die and restored from a backup of /home, lost nothing)
[00:22] <Pelo> arooni-mobile,  on the left, see the buttons for vdeo , audio,  change from copy to the output format you want,  this will enable the filter  button , you can select stuff from there
[00:22] <high-bass> guys i have been tring for ages to get my sound working... i had a problem where sond would come form speakers and headphones.. so i read up that newest alsa drivers would fix the problem... i compiled and installed them but now my system doesnt even detect a sound card! can somone please help me out!
[00:22] <unop> compu73rg33k, well, it is a little complicated -- but only a _little_ .. as long as you follow the instructions, i dont see any problems .. and no, it shouldnt clutter your computer .. the chroot exists in a single folder that has no effect on the rest of the system
[00:22] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, whats a good output for upload to youtube?  and what about the output resolution?
[00:22] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, no idea
[00:22] <CokeNCode> thanks jappdev
[00:23] <kitche> arooni-mobile: look at the youtube upload rules and it will tell you
[00:23] <Pelo> high-bass, , check yoru user premissions in menuy > system > admin > users, make sure your user name has permission to use the sound device
[00:23] <nikrud> source guru? mage?
[00:24] <Pelo> nikrud, ??
[00:24] <compu73rg33k> alright I suppose I'll go for it
[00:24] <kitche> nikrud: what about it?
[00:24] <nikrud> Pelo: just rambling, don't mind me. Just commenting on something that's kinda nice
[00:25] <matyy> hej, are the mirrors really all the same? Or could there be some software missing on some cause of legal restrictions?
[00:25] <danand_> Matthe1 - you still there?
[00:25] <RedHeron> matyy, a "mirror" is an identical copy, and official packages are not restricted.
[00:26] <Pelo> matyy, should be the same , allow for some delays when new packages become availables
[00:26] <Matthe1> danand_: I am, my wife has fallen asleep giving me all the time I need!
[00:26] <matyy> ok, just wondering cause I'm in China^^
[00:27] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> Hello Guys..does anyone know a software to auto-tag mp3 musics? like winamp is doing..?
[00:27] <unop> Vive Le Tibet!! :)
[00:27] <danand_> Matthe1 - do you want the disk to be auto mounted each time you boot?
[00:27] <potato> i have a excutable file i want to run on ubuntu it is suposed to be for linux but i have no program for installing excutables
[00:27] <Mik1> thanks - the information given hasn't sorted my mouse issue - yet - but hopefully i have more information to move forward and tr to resolve this issue ...
[00:27] <Matthe1> danand_: I do
[00:27] <RedHeron> matyy, China's restrictions, from what I can tell from here in the USA, are based on using the software, not merely ownership.
[00:27] <unop> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR, check out exfalso
[00:27] <Pelo> potato, what's the file extension ?
[00:27] <potato> 1 sec pelo
[00:27] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> unop:thx mate.
[00:27] <Mik1> Thanks - next step will be a reboot and further investigations.
[00:28] <Krozy> potato: What is the file name, are you certain it is for linux, and does it have execute rights?
[00:28] <danand_> Matthe1 - where do you want it to be mounted to ? Usual place is under /media ie /media/datadrive ...
[00:28] <potato> one sec im checking all of that
[00:29] <Matthe1> danand_: that sounds sensible. Do I need to create a directory there in the filesystem or will it do that automatically?
[00:29] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> unop:that work..but i want one to download the TAGs by internet..
[00:29] <danand_> Matthe1 - you will need to create that manually - sudo mkdir /media/datadisk
[00:30] <unop> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR, maybe i was thinking about kid3 ..
[00:30] <phenom> Off hand, does any one know how to get wmf files to play under ubuntu?
[00:30] <unop> !info kid3
[00:30] <ubotu> kid3 (source: kid3): KDE MP3 ID3 tag editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 320 kB, installed size 1092 kB
[00:30] <phenom> !info wmf
[00:30] <ubotu> wmf (source: wmf): Web Mail Folder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.5-6 (gutsy), package size 45 kB, installed size 192 kB
[00:31] <phenom> !wmf
[00:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:31] <Pelo> phenom,  don't you mean wmv ?
[00:31] <kitche> phenom: vlc and such but if it's DRM'd it be hard to play
[00:31] <Matthe1> danand_: done (it took me about 20 minutes early today to work out how to make directories on the command line, it's been so long since I used one I'd forgotten everything)
[00:31] <unop> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR, ^^ .. although, it's not as versatile as winamp -- for single files, you need to manually select tags from a list that you import from gnudb or wherever
[00:31] <phenom> What the hell fire did I say? :P
[00:32] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> unop:ill try that..winamp's been doing an excellent job by auto-tagging music by internet..downloading the tags...
[00:32] <phenom> wmv,, yes :/
[00:32] <phenom> !info wmv
[00:32] <ubotu> Package wmv does not exist in gutsy
[00:32] <Pelo> phenom, you said wmf ,   open synaptic  package manager in the admin menu ,  search for gstreamer  install all the gstreamer0.10 packages you see
[00:32] <phenom> Heck, I did.
[00:32] <daj0ker> phenom, totem plays wmv movies
[00:33] <phenom> It's not playing a particular one.
[00:33] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> unop:no problem..if i dont find nothing like wmp..ill have to use wine..i was only looking for something native..
[00:33] <Nasra> IndiGunFreak....are you around?
[00:33] <potato> Krozy:  its a usb host program for my psp
[00:33] <phenom> I'm going to check forerrors now
[00:33] <bazhang> phenom: for drm see ##windows
[00:33]  * Pelo is gonna start recommending totem-xine , instead of gstreamer ,  it would be less hypocritical
[00:33] <unop> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR, winamp can also get things horribly wrong -- i made the mistake of believing it can get all tags and correctly -- now, i might have a bunch of files that have the wrong names  :|
[00:33] <danand_> Matthe1 - may be best not to automount this drive... if you want your user to be able to read and write to it you can just mount it yourself, same as you do a cd
[00:34] <Krozy> potato: What is the name?
[00:34] <potato> Krozy:  allows me to use files from my laptop on my psp through a wifi card
[00:34] <potato> usbhostfs
[00:34] <se2> ls
[00:34] <Pelo> wong windows se2
[00:35] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> unop: haha yeah! i guess some users contribute...cuz some audio files are really crazy...i dont know exacly how that works..but somethings are really messed up .. :P
[00:35] <Matthe1> danand_: OK, how do I mount it so I can edit it though, so far every attempt has resulted in a read only drive
[00:35] <potato> did you get the name Krozy?
[00:36] <potato> jw
[00:36] <daj0ker> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR, i know that amarok can do id3 tags fairly easily, a nice feature is trying to auto-tag from the filename
[00:36] <Krozy> potato: Yes. I saw that.
[00:36] <daj0ker> if that's what you're trying to do, i just saw the last few msgs
[00:36] <jack> anyone know how to remove all menu icons in kde, or kubuntu?
[00:37] <kitche> jack: edit each menu entry
[00:37] <jack> kitche: each one individually?
[00:37] <Pelo> kitche, won't that leave him with that default icon for each entry ?
[00:37] <potato> ok
[00:37] <danand_> Matthe1 - that's done in the fstab file :) - you _should_ just be able to rclick and select mount under Places -> Computer
[00:38] <dcramer[]> could anyone clarify what this post means: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3767003&postcount=3
[00:38] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> daj0ker: yeah but sometimes i get mp3files that comes with only 2 tags..title and artist..and i dont have a clue about its original name and that stuff..
[00:38] <danand_> Matthe1 - and then use the drive :_
[00:38] <kitche> Pelo: it show the default icon if he removed the icon anyways
[00:38] <dcramer[]> id like to do waht they did
[00:38] <Krozy> potato: It appears others have experienced the same problem with that software from google searches.  I'm personally not familiar with it as I dont have a PSP
[00:38] <unop> daj0ker, does amarok also retrieve tags from the internet?
[00:38] <Sl4y3r> can someone answer a question for me
[00:38] <Sl4y3r> ?
[00:38] <jack> kitche: isnt there a "Hide menu icons" check box somewhere?
[00:38] <potato> ok ill take a look on google to see what thay are saying
[00:39] <daj0ker> unop, yes
[00:39] <kitche> jack: no clue in kde sicne I haven't used kde or gnome in many years
[00:39] <potato> Krozy:  i think i found a walkthrough just for linux
[00:39] <Pelo> dcramer[], that guy is using debian repositories to get debian packages,  not necessarely a good idea
[00:39] <Sl4y3r> why would ubuntu run slower on a computer thats faster than mine?
[00:39] <unop> dcramer[], in simple words, that's actually quite a crazy thing to do -- it's definitely not recommended, you can end up with a broken system
[00:39] <daj0ker> unop, amorak also can get the album cover, also, which is pretty nice, at least i think
[00:39] <dcramer[]> Pelo: i just want mod_wsgi from it :D
[00:39] <Krozy> potato: I'm looking at this site: http://www.psp-hacks.com/file/1064.  Is that where you got it?
[00:39] <dcramer[]> as im having issues with it and was hoping that'd fix it
[00:39] <phenom> bazhang, Yes it's drm crap, any way around it? :P
[00:39] <jack> kitche: should i quit wrestling with kde?
[00:39] <Pelo> DreamThief, just google for the srouce or a deb package
[00:40] <potato> Krozy:  yes exzatly
[00:40] <dcramer[]> oh wait nvm
[00:40] <Pelo> later folks
[00:40] <unop> daj0ker, i use albumart-qt for that -- it's pretty good, searches amazon, walmart, yahoo, etc
[00:40] <bazhang> jack best bet is to ask in #kubuntu ;]
[00:40] <Sl4y3r> why would ubuntu run slower on a computer thats faster than mine?
[00:40] <dcramer[]> nvm i fixed mod_wsgi -.-
[00:40] <dcramer[]> thanks
[00:40] <Matthe1> danand_: Gotcha, still can't edit it when I mount it that way though and in the properties tab I am unable to change any of the permissions!
[00:40] <jack> bazhang: i am in both channels
[00:40] <daj0ker> unop, yea, sounds like it has a wider search range, i donno, amarok just hogs my system resources, no reason an mp3 player should use 50% of my cpu _ALL_ the time
[00:41] <Matthe1> danand_: It's going to take me a while to get used to the idea that even though I'm the only user I'm not given root access to everything by default!
[00:41] <unop> daj0ker, ohh yea, i prefer xmms anyday - simple and best
[00:41] <phenom> Ok, so best way to get around DRM?
[00:41] <phenom> :)
[00:41] <Krozy> potato: That archive (zip file) contains a file that may be a windows executable.  My system wants to run that through WINE.  Do you know a place that has the source for that file?
[00:42] <Sl4y3r> why would ubuntu run slower on a computer thats faster than mine?
[00:42] <daj0ker> unop, i agree
[00:42] <ZMALA> I have  my xp on a ntf drive 20gb (C:) and a 20gb partition foramtted as fat32 (L:) but when I try to install ubuntu only picks up my c: drive and not my L: it picks it as use thw whole hard drive or go to manual.
[00:42] <phenom> !drm
[00:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:42] <phenom> !info drm
[00:42] <ubotu> Package drm does not exist in gutsy
[00:42] <daj0ker> Sl4y3r, fresh install?
[00:42] <Stormx2> phenom: Depends on the DRM
[00:42] <potato> Krozy:  one sec ill find it for you
[00:42] <danand_> Matthe1 - i'm setting an option in the fstab so that if you mount the drive you should have full read write permissions to it, ie same as if you mounted a floppy or usb disk;.
[00:42] <rj__> hey
[00:42] <Sl4y3r> yes i installed it on 2 computers
[00:43] <Sl4y3r> mind and my dads
[00:43] <Matthe1> danand_: fab, thanks
[00:43] <Sl4y3r> my computer has 1.0 ghz processor and 384mb ram
[00:43] <rj__> >_> i was drac before, or drag, cant remember right now
[00:43] <_strogg_> Phenom are you trying to play back wmv
[00:43] <Sl4y3r> his has 2.3ghz processor and 768mb ram
[00:43] <rj__> I downgraded to 6.06>_>
[00:43] <Sl4y3r> and mine runs faster
[00:43] <Fryguy--> Sl4y3r: varying driver performance, different set of packages installed, misconfigured hardware are 3 reasons that jump out
[00:43] <phenom> _strogg_, yes
[00:43] <phenom> vlc wont even work.
[00:44] <daj0ker> Sl4y3r, exactly what Fryguy-- said, is what I was going to say, you could always just type "top" in a terminal and see what applications are running, if nay
[00:44] <ZMALA> I would like a auto install instead of manual which I could do but would have to setup all the partitions
[00:44] <Stormx2> phenom, I don't think you can get around drm'd wmv.
[00:44] <Stormx2> Why do you have it anyway?
[00:44] <_strogg_> lol you need the good the bad and the ugly codecs
[00:44] <Stormx2> That'll work if it's not DRM'd.
[00:44] <phenom> I've acquired the I Am Legend "Set" that has Part 2 in it.
[00:45] <Stormx2> !wmv | phenom
[00:45] <ubotu> phenom: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:45] <Krozy> potato: someone made a comment on this page (http://www.psp-hacks.com/index.php?s=smash) that infers that the source included in the archive for MACs could be compiled.  That may be worth a shot after review.
[00:45] <phenom> I'd like to watch it. Without doing a 007.
[00:45] <phenom> :/
[00:45] <phenom> Part 1 works fine grr.
[00:45] <potato> hmm\
[00:45] <ZMALA> I have  my xp on a ntf drive 20gb (C:) and a 20gb partition foramtted as fat32 (L:) but when I try to install ubuntu only picks up my c: drive and not my L: it picks it as use thw whole hard drive or go to manual.
[00:45] <_strogg_> are they both in wmv
[00:45] <php_pengui1> is there any package I can get for a fresh install which just "makes DVD work" ? I am getting kinda annoyed with having to remember 10 differnet packages
[00:45] <ZMALA> I would like a auto install instead of manual which I could do but would have to setup all the partitions
[00:45] <Stormx2> phenom, read that page on codecs if you want .wmv playback.
[00:45] <potato> Krozy:  you want me to find you the mac sourse?
[00:46] <phenom> I'd have to check part1, It started playing as soon as I put it in.
[00:46] <Stormx2> The package you'll need is w32codecs I think.
[00:46] <Fryguy--> ZMALA: so if guided partitioning doesn't work correctly for your setup, then do it manually, is isn't that hard
[00:46] <Krozy> potato: http://www.psp-hacks.com/file/1065
[00:46] <_strogg_> this page should help you both https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[00:46] <phenom> I can playback wmv's, but this one is DRM encrypted.
[00:46] <ZMALA> okay thanks fryguy
[00:46] <daj0ker> phenom, get another source :-P
[00:46] <Stormx2> How do you know it is DRM'd?
[00:46] <potato> ok]
[00:47] <phenom> Mplayer, says the file is "encumbered" in DRM encryption, hehe and grrr
[00:47] <Stormx2> Then you won't be able to play it back under ubuntu.
[00:47] <potato> Krozy:  ok ill try that ill let you know what happend
[00:47] <phenom> Phuck that
[00:47] <danand_> Matthe1 - Create a backup of your current fstab first :) - sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.orig then replace the current /etc/fstab with the one at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60362/ .... no implied warranties etc ... just incase i screwed it up :O
[00:47] <Stormx2> Sorry ^_^ should be careful when buying media that it isn't DRMd
[00:47] <mneptok> !language > phenom
[00:48] <danand_> Matthe1 - think it should be good though :)
[00:48] <phenom> funk that
[00:48] <Stormx2> Equally as bad.
[00:48] <Stormx2> Stop.
[00:48] <nikrud> doh
[00:48] <ZMALA> fryguy i have been looking at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning but still not sure the optimum sizes. Bit confused mate
[00:48] <mneptok> phenom: partdon?
[00:48] <mneptok> -t
[00:48] <RedHeron> DRM = teh sux0r
[00:48] <phenom> People die to remind someone not to be human around here. :/
[00:48] <pretender> can anyone tell me where to get a DVD Cover Template for Glabels
[00:49] <ZMALA> Yes I am a rooky
[00:49] <RedHeron> phenom: Like Arthur C. Clarke, you mean?
[00:49] <Fryguy--> ZMALA: just make a swap partition that's like 512mb, and then make a / partition that is whatever
[00:50] <_strogg_> Templates are in glabels no
[00:50] <phenom> mneptok, Was that a show of power?
[00:50] <Stormx2> ZMALA: Your regular install needs two partitions. A swap partition (which should be 2x the capacity of your RAM) and a main partition (called /)
[00:50] <phenom> Out of curiosity?
[00:50] <lilleman> Unrar e file.rar gives "no files to extract" even though I know there is files to extract. -r does not help. Have red most of the docs and cant find anything :/
[00:50] <Fryguy--> Stormx2: 2x ram is an old and outdated recommendation
[00:50] <Stormx2> phenom, basically it's a warning.
[00:50] <danand_> Matthe1 - you get that last?
[00:50] <agroker> RedHeron, that famous pedophile from Ceylon?
[00:50] <percy> hola
[00:50]  * phenom nods
[00:50] <Stormx2> Fryguy--, last time I heard it was about 2 years ago. Does it not hold true today?
[00:50] <RedHeron> agroker: pedophile???
[00:50] <Fryguy--> Stormx2: I highly doubt an 8gb swap partition is going to do me much good
[00:51] <Matthe1> danand_: brilliant, thanks so much for your help. I shall try this out and then get some sleep!
[00:51] <Stormx2> Point taken
[00:51] <RedHeron> agroker: ACC was *not* a pedo.
[00:51] <agroker> RedHeron, may very well be M$/SCO FUD, take with grain of salt ;-)
[00:51] <_strogg_> lol 8gb swap
[00:51] <Stormx2> Wouldn't make much sense to have a 64GB partition in my server either :)
[00:51] <phenom> Ok, so can Mr Canonical make a suggestion to help my problem, other than tell me not to react to it?
[00:51] <nikrud> Fryguy--: I usually suggest a little more than ram for laptops
[00:51] <phenom> I'm sorry, I won't "not curse" any more.
[00:51] <danand_> Matthe1 - just sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart. then try and mount the drive
[00:51] <RedHeron> agroker: Personally, I think Gates might be a pedo.
[00:51] <rockcityvi> Good night.  Can anyone tell me the general differences between GNOME and KDE?
[00:51] <nikrud> !offtopic | redbox_ agroker
[00:51] <ubotu> redbox_ agroker: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter.   It's been a long time since ubuntu has swapped for me at all
[00:52] <ZMALA> okay stomx2   my swap file would be 4gb since I have 2gb ram. So whats the root
[00:52] <rockcityvi> Good deal
[00:52] <ZMALA> and whats / do
[00:52] <nikrud> Fryguy--: likewise, but I do hibernate now and then.
[00:52] <Stormx2> ZMALA: Hold on, we've had other suggestions since my 2x rule.
[00:52] <Stormx2> Fryguy--: How much swap would you give for 2GB of RAM?
[00:52] <nikrud> Fryguy--: when the battery is getting low and suspend might not last long enough
[00:52] <RedHeron> Without Arthur C. Clarke, there would have BEEN no Ubuntu!
[00:52] <Fryguy--> rockcityvi: they are both windowing environments that provide a cohesive interface.  Differences in them are in design and philosophy, use both and see which you like  both
[00:53] <_strogg_> KDE seems a bit bloated to me and I'm not to fond of how everything looks
[00:53] <mneptok> phenom: you're still here, yes?
[00:53] <Fryguy--> Stormx2: unless you have good reason, you should never need more thna 512 (hibernating is a pretty good reason)
[00:53] <rockcityvi> Thanks thats a good answer
[00:53] <Stormx2> ZMALA, as Fryguy-- said.
[00:53] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: I routinely use 2gb of my 10gb swap.
[00:53] <_strogg_> I've tried using KDE because it's hyped up so much but I think it's crap
[00:54] <jappdev> have anyone tried to use runas?  it segfaults for me when ever i try to use it
[00:54]  * RedHeron also uses xfce
[00:54] <Stormx2> _strogg_, we get it!
[00:54] <phenom> mneptok, I don't appreciate your show of power. Why don't you mod Undernet if you want to start kicking people.  No one cares.
[00:54] <phenom> Tell "RetiredGod" I said hello.
[00:54] <_strogg_> some one was asking for opinions
[00:54] <Stormx2> If you have things you want improved talk to their dev team, no us.
[00:54] <nikrud> phenom: please.
[00:54] <Stormx2> not*
[00:54] <Fryguy--> _strogg_: i don't recall anyone asking for opinions on windowing environments
[00:54] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: I think it should depend on the intended use, not a "general guideline" for everyone.
[00:54] <phenom> Ok.
[00:54] <phenom> I submit.
[00:54] <TaRDy> anybody know how to use "broken" filter?
[00:54] <ZMALA> Thanks guys.
[00:55] <Fryguy--> RedHeron: ubuntu's demographic dictates a general guideline
[00:55] <ZMALA> Will do it now
[00:55] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: And what demographic is that?
[00:55] <TaRDy> i have 1 broken package or pipeline in my system
[00:55] <Stormx2> 99% IRC addicts :)
[00:55] <_strogg_> rockcityvi was asking
[00:55] <mneptok> phenom: and i don't like an endless parade of anonymous teenagers complaing they can't swear. so there it is. if you'd like to make a larger issue of it, i would suggest re-thinking that idea.
[00:55] <Fryguy--> RedHeron: typical desktop linux user that is looking for a replacement for windows for day to day tasks, or as an exposure to linux to become accustomed to *nix
[00:55] <Stormx2> TaRDy: Usually I open up synaptic to fix them. dpkg can fix it too.
[00:55] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: I'm one of THOSE.
[00:55] <tritium> Fryguy--: that's only partially true.
[00:56] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: I've been using Linux for, oh, 6 months now.
[00:56] <tritium> Many of us are also old debian converts.
[00:56] <nikrud> hear hear for debian converts
[00:56] <Fryguy--> tritium: that it is, but we are having an argument because I mentioned a general guideline for establishing swap and people seem to have issue with it, so i'm trying to explain myself
[00:56]  * RedHeron started on Debian, FWIW.
[00:56] <tritium> Fryguy--: I'll scroll up to read your general guideline.
[00:56] <DrIP> hi all
[00:56] <nikrud> Fryguy--: its a good recommendation. I usually say 2x ram up to 2gb, works for most situations, real general ;)
[00:57] <DrIP> i'm having a problem with xrdc
[00:57] <Fryguy--> tritium: cliffnotes: most users don't ever need more than 512 ram, and if you do, you'll probably know about it and adjust accordingly
[00:57] <geektasticgirl> quick question: i have a 1 TB hard drive and gonna do a fresh install of Ubuntu (latest version). what is the best partition configuration for performance?   root partition, swap, /usr /home /var etc...
[00:57] <RedHeron> I take issue only because there is no solid reasoning behind the idea of an "overall guideline" as the guideline should be situationally dependent upon the intent behind the use.
[00:57] <Fryguy--> err excuse me
[00:57] <Fryguy--> 512 swap
[00:57] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl: What do you use the hard drive for?
[00:57] <mneptok> geektasticgirl: desktop or laptop?
[00:57] <geektasticgirl> desktop
[00:57] <RedHeron> 512mb swap, right.
[00:57] <Stormx2> If you're not planning to use much of it you might as well RAID it or something. I couldn't see myself using 1TB.
[00:57] <Cann0n> 1T seems like over kill for a desktop lol.
[00:57] <tritium> Fryguy--: I'd agree.
[00:57]  * RedHeron routinely uses 2gb.
[00:58] <geektasticgirl> it cost me $249 lol
[00:58] <Stormx2> Why did you get it?
[00:58] <geektasticgirl> 7400 rpm segate
[00:58] <Fryguy--> RedHeron: I'm somewhat curious what you are doing that's using so much memory
[00:58] <geektasticgirl> fryes
[00:58]  * tritium rarely hibernates
[00:58] <_strogg_> lol I could use !TB up i bet
[00:58] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: graphic design. :-)
[00:58]  * Fryguy-- has over 3 terrabytes of storage :/
[00:58] <chimp> is there a command like way to tell a process not to use so much resources?
[00:58] <_strogg_> ^TB
[00:58] <Jaggs> Hi, I am new to the ubuntu stuff and I was wondering if anyone could tell me what program I could use to read xvid files...
[00:58] <geektasticgirl> should i make a 8192 swap since my mem  is 4096 mb?
[00:58] <Stormx2> Well I use 300GB but really I could free stuff up fine.
[00:58] <Fryguy--> chimp: nice
[00:58] <chimp> im compiling with an old laptop and its killing it
[00:58] <jappdev> Jaggs: vlc
[00:58] <agroker> geektasticgirl, just sent my fallen seagate barracuda back to dell
[00:58] <Stormx2> Jaggs, vlc?
[00:58] <Matthe1> danand_: that restart command caused a crash :-(
[00:58] <chimp> nice?
[00:58] <TaRDy> Stormx2, this may sound silly, but it won't let me apply in synaptic
[00:59] <Cann0n> im on 60GB and i have yet filled it up
[00:59] <TaRDy> Stormx2, actually wait let me sudo synaptic
[00:59] <Matthe1> danand_: the drive is showing up but I still can't write to it
[00:59] <tritium> geektasticgirl: are you running 64-bit?
[00:59] <RedHeron> chimp: the "nice" command, yes.
[00:59] <geektasticgirl> 32 bit, should i have gotten a 64bit processor?
[00:59] <mneptok> TaRDy: you should not be using sudo with Synaptic
[00:59] <Fryguy--> RedHeron: yes, you are outside of the typical user segment.  Graphics design is pretty much widely known to be an intensive cpu task, and you should know this and configure your computer accordingly, which you have.
[00:59] <chimp> i see hehe
[00:59] <chimp> cheers
[00:59] <Cann0n> I suggest splitting them up into 200GB clusters
[00:59] <Stormx2> TaRDy, you should always gksudo graphical apps.
[00:59] <geektasticgirl> i wanna play games, like guild wars too.. on my pc.. it works well now on linux
[00:59] <mneptok> TaRDy: use gksu.
[00:59] <tritium> geektasticgirl: no, but you may have bought more memory than you can use
[00:59] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: Thus the case for finding out what the user's intent is.
[00:59] <danand_> Matthe1 - oops - did you have to reboot?
[00:59] <TaRDy> thank you mneptok and Stormx2
[01:00] <geektasticgirl> i have 2 x 2.6ghz (real core duo), 4gb ram, 1tb hd, nvidia 7950gt
[01:00] <Jaggs> the vlc player gives me sound but no video
[01:00] <mneptok> TaRDy: VLC will not appear as a valid installation candidate until you enable the Multiverse repo and update your package cahce
[01:00] <Stormx2> See that seems like a sensible high-end system, except for the 1TB HDD.
[01:00] <mneptok> *cache
[01:00] <Fryguy--> RedHeron: there's not much need. If a user knows he is going to be doing graphic design, he knows he needs more memory.  If a user doesn't know what he needs, it's generally safe to assume that he will fall into the general category, and not require more than 512 swap, which is exactly what I said all along.  What exactly is your issue?
[01:00] <barslow> quick and easy stupid question
[01:00] <geektasticgirl> stormx2 what is wrong with the hd?
[01:00] <geektasticgirl> 1tb
[01:00] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: I didn't.
[01:00] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: I had to learn from the ground up.
[01:00] <Stormx2> It just seems like overkill.
[01:01] <barslow> I removed the time from the top panel and i dont know how to get it back
[01:01] <geektasticgirl> storm, it is cheap tho
[01:01] <Stormx2> I can't see you using all that unless you download a lot of movies and never delete them.
[01:01] <geektasticgirl> storm, $249\
[01:01] <mneptok> Fryguy-- and RedHeron: could the OT convo move to -offtopic, please?
[01:01] <potato> Krozy: can you look around hear and see if you find the sourse http://ps2dev.org/psp/Projects/PSPSDK
[01:01] <Stormx2> Uhg. That's cheap?
[01:01] <Fryguy--> Stormx2: i have a dedicated file server in my house with multiple gigabytes
[01:01] <tritium> geektasticgirl: you could have saved yourself some $, and stuck with 2GB RAM
[01:01] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: I'm making a case for asking "what do you plan to do with your machine" instead of making a blanket statement.
[01:01] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, thats a deal there. i remember  when 100GBs were that much
[01:01] <Fryguy--> mneptok: how is configuring partitions and their sizes offtopic?
[01:01] <RedHeron> mneptok: How is that OT?
[01:01] <geektasticgirl> oh 4gb ram helps me
[01:01]  * Stormx2 could easily double his whole PC's stats with $249
[01:01] <TaRDy> I tried to use synaptic and recieved this error on apply "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-14.10_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig', which is also in package nvidia-xconfig"
[01:02] <barslow> comeon someone throw me a bone
[01:02] <geektasticgirl> btw 4gb of ram was only like $50 more
[01:02] <geektasticgirl> then 2gb
[01:02] <tarkus> hey guys, a few buddies and i thought of this project. let me know if you think this would be successfull. would you join if it was active and well implemented/designed? http://dpaste.com/40492/
[01:02] <tritium> geektasticgirl: 32-bit systems can only address 2^32
[01:02] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, if you want to partition them up, i suggest 250GB or 200GB partitions
[01:02] <mneptok> Fryguy-- & RedHeron: you're not providing support. you're discussing technical merits. this is a support channel.
[01:02] <Krozy> potato: I found the source in that mac file from the link I gave you before, but I can't compile it as i dont have usb.h
[01:02] <barslow> just needa know how to get the time back on the top panel
[01:02] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl: Also what's the RPM on the disk drive?
[01:02] <geektasticgirl> 7400
[01:02] <tritium> geektasticgirl: i.e., you're not able to use the extra 2 GV
[01:02] <tritium> GB*
[01:02] <potato> Krozy: oh
[01:02] <barslow> stop kissin this slob girls ass and help me out here ppl
[01:02] <Fryguy--> mneptok: I provide more support in this channel than almost any one else.  Do you really have an issue with the amount of time I spend in here helping other people out?
[01:02] <geektasticgirl> ubuntu sees 3gb
[01:02] <barslow> jeezus
[01:02] <RedHeron> mneptok: I'm trying to talk about HOW to give support.
[01:02] <Dr_willis__> TaRDy,  i would try a 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and try again.   If it still happens you could remove the nvidia-xconfig package,
[01:02] <geektasticgirl> cause i guess 32bit can only address up to 3gb
[01:02] <phenom> hehe
[01:02] <Krozy> potato: Its in http://www.psp-hacks.com/download.php?id=1065, just extract and drill down in the directories till you find the one with the source
[01:02] <tritium> barslow: that's not appropriate here
[01:02] <Stormx2> tritium: I thought 4GB was the limit on 32GB RAM?
[01:03] <agroker> barslow, did you try rightmouse button "add to panel"?
[01:03] <Fryguy--> Stormx2: the problem is addressing hardware memory, such as on video cards and such
[01:03] <barslow> well i have an easy question that im sure 99% of the ppl here could anwser
[01:03] <Jaggs> barslow: your just trying to get the time back in the corner!?
[01:03] <barslow> yea there's no option for time
[01:03] <Kira> How do Postfix and the Perl SMTP server compare with each other?
[01:03] <Dr_willis__> barslow,   did you try the obvious way like agroker  said?
[01:03] <potato> Krozy:  then just comile (install) useing the sourse
[01:03] <Fryguy--> Stormx2: which, because of x86 architecture, gets lumped into the 4gb limit
[01:03] <ethan961> Stormx2, that is FAT32 filesystem.
[01:03] <Stormx2> Wait, I failed.
[01:03] <ethan961> as well
[01:03] <Stormx2> I meant
[01:03] <Stormx2> 32bit processer
[01:03] <potato> Krozy: like i mean past into the termanal?
[01:03] <barslow> no time option in add to panel
[01:03] <Stormx2> Really tired :/
[01:03] <phenom> RedHeron, Fryguy--,, The audacity..
[01:03] <geektasticgirl> i can't figure out how to make logical partitions in the unbuntu setup
[01:03] <phenom> ;)
[01:03] <geektasticgirl> i'll try again
[01:03] <chimp> tried using that nice command, but that is seemingly only with programs you want to strat, im already compiling and want to lower its priority, how do i do this?
[01:03] <Dr_willis__> geektasticgirl,  i find it safer to just use all primaries if i can.
[01:04] <Fryguy--> chimp: use nice
[01:04] <Fryguy--> chimp: read manpage, you can nice existing processes
[01:04] <tritium> Fryguy--: so what's the upper addressable limit for memory on a 32-bit system?
[01:04] <ZMALA> okay so im creating the 512mb swap file and  (bearing in mind this will be my 2nd os after Windows Boooooo!!!) and its asking me if it should be primary or logical and should the location be at beginning or end
[01:04] <geektasticgirl> btw i use 0mb of my swap
[01:04] <chimp> i see, man page doesnt list this
[01:04] <Fryguy--> tritium: 4gb, short of doing fancier things like PAE
[01:04] <chimp> ill try cheers
[01:04] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: so does the vast majority of this channel
[01:04] <Dr_willis__> ZMALA,  location dosent matter. I tend to put them at the end.  when in doubt use primaries if you can.
[01:04] <geektasticgirl> with 3gb of ram in system lol
[01:04] <geektasticgirl> (4gb but os sees 3gb)
[01:05] <geektasticgirl> my swap is gonna be like 8192mb
[01:05] <ZMALA> great thanks again dudes
[01:05] <geektasticgirl> twice my memory
[01:05] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, i'd just partition them into quarters or 5th's, then selecting the first one for the installation of ubuntu
[01:05] <geektasticgirl> 8gb swap sounds good?
[01:05] <Krozy> potato: do you know how to compile the source?
[01:05] <Dr_willis__> I always put a 512mb swap partition on every HD i have..  The various Live cd's often see it and use it if needed. :)
[01:05] <TaRDy> Dr_willis__, on sudo apt-get upgrade it gave the following: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-14.10_i386.deb
[01:05] <potato> Krozy:  no sorry
[01:05] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, 8gb sounds good
[01:05] <tritium> Fryguy--: aye, 2^32 > 4e9.  I agree with your statement.
[01:05] <Dr_willis__> geektasticgirl,  I only set up 1 gb normally. Unless you plan on doiing somthing major.
[01:05] <ne0> hello  I got question does ubuntu now support wacom for the hp tx2000?
[01:05] <geektasticgirl> why waste a partiton for only 1 gb
[01:05] <geektasticgirl> of 1000gb
[01:05] <geektasticgirl> heh
[01:06] <kip> in which path can I make "inetd start" ??
[01:06] <geektasticgirl> 8gb of 1000gb is like nothing right?
[01:06] <Cann0n> the linux rule of thumb is double your ram for the swap space
[01:06] <alwrwr2003> hi
[01:06] <Krozy> potato: Do you have the files extracted? (save the download to your desktop, right click it and choose extract here)
[01:06] <potato> yes
[01:06] <Malik_> iam been tying for an 30 misn and i can't get ubuntu wirless to work???
[01:06] <geektasticgirl> btw i record HD movies via TV antenna, with HD tuner card.. each movie can take like 25gb
[01:06] <geektasticgirl> so this 1tb hd helps
[01:06] <Malik_> can some1 help me otu or be my guide???
[01:06] <Cann0n> Malik_, i'm back
[01:06] <Jaggs> barslow: have you tried finding the calendar and seein if it has an add option?
[01:06] <potato> Krozy:  extracted and i see 2 folders one has nothing in it tho]
[01:06] <Malik_> yes
[01:06] <brazil_nut> does anybody install ubuntu on mac-book
[01:06] <Fryguy--> Malik_: you ask questions, we answer them
[01:06] <brazil_nut> ?
[01:06] <Cann0n> Malik_, join #Cann0n
[01:07] <Krozy> potato: ok, open up a terminal, and navigate into the directory that has the source files.
[01:07] <alwrwr2003> how I run synaptic on administrator
[01:07] <Cann0n> I told you i'd help you with that
[01:07] <potato> ok
[01:07] <brazil_nut> yes, Malik_  go ahead and ask questions ?
[01:07] <ZMALA> okay thats the swap file created now for tthe main partition (called /)  ??? i  have many options for use as example ext3 ext2 and others
[01:07] <ne0> ??
[01:07] <pretender> Does anyone know how to create a DVD Cover Template in GLABELS
[01:07] <Fryguy--> alwrwr2003: become root using su, or use sudo to execute a single command with elevated permissions
[01:07] <ZMALA> which one is it
[01:07] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl: Might have been better to get multiple disks, but oh well.
[01:07] <Fryguy--> ZMALA: it's called swap
[01:07] <Krozy> potato: should be in /usbhostfs_MAC/src/
[01:07] <potato> Krozy:  by just pasting the location from the file borwser adress bar into the termal
[01:07] <Fryguy--> ZMALA: oh nevermind i misread
[01:07] <potato> ok]
[01:07] <ZMALA> I have already done the swap
[01:07] <potato> i got ya
[01:07] <Fryguy--> ZMALA: if you dont' know what to pick, choose ext3
[01:07] <geektasticgirl> thinking 10gb root, 8gb swap, 100gb usr and the reset (>800gb) for home
[01:07] <comicinker> I have a script that requires "your java home location (eg /usr/java)". what is it in ubuntu? when I set it to /usr/bin/java, I receive an error
[01:08] <ZMALA> cool
[01:08] <tritium> alwrwr2003: or selecting it from the menu (it'll ask for your password)
[01:08] <kip> in which path can I make "inetd start" ??
[01:08] <Jaggs> Ok, Im going to ask a Question and re phrase it... VLC will not play my xvid applications because I cant extract the files, is there a patch or something fo rme to do that?
[01:08] <chimp> sorry but the nice man page shows no syntax for existing proceses, i cant work out how to do it?
[01:08] <Krozy> potato: then you should be able to kick off a compile by entering "make" at the command line (theres a Makefile that has the parameters)
[01:08] <Fryguy--> comicinker: type 'whereis java'
[01:08] <TaRDy> comicinker, try "which java"
[01:08] <geektasticgirl> oh var shouldnt' be on root drive eitehr bleh
[01:08] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl: I tend to lump / and /usr together on ubuntu, there's no real reason to seperate them
[01:08] <ZMALA> ext 3 it is for main location begining or end
[01:08] <geektasticgirl> but those files are usually small in var right?
[01:08] <tritium> geektasticgirl: many of these issues/questions are personal preference
[01:08] <geektasticgirl> the logs dont' grow too big?
[01:08]  * RedHeron idles for "back to work". :-(
[01:08] <tritium> There is no right or wrong way that is universally agreed upon.
[01:08] <kip> in which path can I make "inetd start" ??
[01:08] <tritium> geektasticgirl: logrotate
[01:08] <kip> where is the filme inetd?
[01:09] <mattgyver83> Hi room, how can i find out the path to my dvdrw?
[01:09] <ZMALA> oh and primary for ext3 as you said right
[01:09] <brazil_nut> comicinker, you can set the java path in your .bashrc file first type the "whereis  java", it will tell you where your java is installed on the system
[01:09] <geektasticgirl> bleh i dont' kwno what to do
[01:09] <Stormx2> mattgyver83: It will be under /media somewhere.
[01:09] <mattgyver83> thanks storm
[01:09] <chimp> can anyone explain to me please, how to use nice on specific aleady running processes?
[01:09] <geektasticgirl> 100gb root  8gb swap and the rest on home?
[01:09] <comicinker> whereis is cool. which one is the correct path? java: /usr/bin/java /etc/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[01:10] <tritium> comicinker: /usr/bin/java
[01:10] <Stormx2> mattgyver83, well there's two paths really. There's the device file (something you (the human) can't do much with) under /dev, and the drive's mountpoint (where you can see files on the disk, or whatever) under /media
[01:10] <brazil_nut> chimp, type man nice and it will give you some examples as well
[01:10] <Fryguy--> chimp: bother to google?
[01:10] <chimp> i checked man pages, it doesnt show me anything
[01:10] <potato> Krozy: how to i change to the location i need just /home/j/Desktop/usbhostfs_MAC/src and hit enter?
[01:10] <ZMALA> ext 3 it is for main location begining or end oh and primary for ext3 as you said right
[01:10] <chimp> i cant google, computer is at near standstill
[01:10] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl, why 100GB / ?
[01:10] <Fryguy--> chimp: renice
[01:10] <mattgyver83> Stormx2; im just trying to burn a dvd and the path /dev/dvdrw was not found
[01:11] <DrIP> hi all
[01:11] <DrIP> i'm getting the error:    main: unable to connect to host: Connection refused (111)      in a 'x11 virtual terminal' with an ok button that just closes the session... xrdp again...
[01:11] <chimp> ahh i see, thanks
[01:11] <mattgyver83> Stormx2; i guess it would be /dev/scd1
[01:11] <geektasticgirl> storm, for /usr (programs) /var ?
[01:11] <alwrwr2003> it dosn't ask me for my password
[01:11] <geektasticgirl> if i installed every package for linux available, how much space would it take?
[01:11] <Stormx2> mattgyver83: You can type "mount" in a terminal to see where things are mounted.
[01:11] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: a lot
[01:11] <Stormx2> Might help.
[01:11] <geektasticgirl> mroe then 100gb?
[01:12] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: probably
[01:12] <mattgyver83> Stormx2, thanks for the tip
[01:12] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl, there are ~20,000 packages in the repository. How many are you expecting to install?
[01:12] <ZMALA> ext 3 it is for main location begining or end oh and primary for ext3 as you said right
[01:12] <chronic1> anyone here have problems with a Dell laptop and "switch user"
[01:12] <geektasticgirl> stormx2 id unno lol
[01:12] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, depends on if you want EVERY package version
[01:12] <geektasticgirl> usually jsut the tip
[01:12] <tritium> geektasticgirl: you can't even install all of them, due to package conflicts.
[01:12] <geektasticgirl> i know
[01:13] <bluefox83> !convert
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <bluefox83> ok, anyone know how to add screenlets?
[01:13] <Stormx2> I have 1,500 installed and I've had this install of ubuntu since dapper (just under 2 years). i'm using 10GB
[01:13] <vocx> geektasticgirl, most people would give more room to the /home partition than worry about the main / partition
[01:13] <Krozy> potato: the commands for changing directory are similar to dos/windows command prompt... when you bring up a terminal, you'll be in your home directory, so first change to desktop (cd Desktop<enter>), and then into each subdirectory
[01:13] <geektasticgirl> cool
[01:13] <Stormx2> bluefox83: Please just /msg ubotu next time
[01:13] <alwrwr2003> where i found all the order in the shell & terminal
[01:13] <geektasticgirl> stormx , how do you have yoru system partitioned?
[01:13] <agroker> chronic1, I'm on inspiron 6400, may try if you tell me what exactly to do
[01:14] <Stormx2> Uhg
[01:14] <Stormx2> I'll check, hold on.
[01:14] <Stormx2> I can't remember exactly.
[01:14] <comicinker> that script is crap. thanks for the path help, it worked.
[01:14] <potato> Krozy:  whats the "cd" mean?
[01:14] <geektasticgirl> was thinkign by having root on separate partition it would boot faster
[01:14] <chronic1> agroker: basically if I log out, no problem...but if i use "switch user" or close the lid...the computer never comes back on without a hard shutoff and startup
[01:14] <Krozy> potato: cd means Change Directory
[01:14] <spork969> i reorganized 217 images in the file browser by modification date, but when i view a slideshow, they go by name. is there a quick and easy way for me to rename all of them so they are formatted like IMG_001.jpg to IMG_217.jpg by order of date of modification?
[01:14] <potato> thougt so
[01:15] <Krozy> potato: This may be a helpful guide for navigating the directory structure: http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/direct.html
[01:15] <agroker> chronic1, I too had problems with sleeping on closing the lid, switched it to "shutdown"
[01:15] <Stormx2> 18.6GB Windows, 10GB / (sorry I was mistaken earlier, only 5GB full, not 10GB), 7.1GB /home, 1.5GB swap, 100GB "Stuff" (might as well be /home on reflection, but I was naive) and 200GB "Music"
[01:16] <sleepy554> 1.5gb swap? lol
[01:16] <Stormx2> I'd change a lot of the partitioning tbh. I set it up when I was like 12 or 13 though so it's not great.
[01:16] <ne0> hello every1
[01:16] <vulcar> Is there a wlan essid scanner out there for ubuntu?
[01:16] <agroker> chronic1, but switch user works on Heron
[01:17] <Fryguy--> vulcar: kismet will probably do what you want
[01:17] <chronic1> agroker: is that the beta release?
[01:17] <agroker> vulcar, there were a few, try airsnort
[01:17] <Stormx2> vulcar: ng-crack?
[01:17] <vocx> spork969, probably need to try something with "rename" and "find", or use some other scripting language like python, or tcl.
[01:17] <geektasticgirl> i'd like to ptu libraries, exectubles etc, things that don't change often in separate partition.. gues i need to use symbolic links
[01:17] <agroker> chronic1, I think so
[01:17] <geektasticgirl> e.g. for /usr
[01:17] <geektasticgirl> and /lib
[01:17] <geektasticgirl> etc
[01:17] <spork969> thanks vocx, im trying that now
[01:18] <geektasticgirl> /var and /home i'd like on the same partition
[01:18] <Stormx2> Eek
[01:18] <Stormx2> Bad idea?
[01:18] <chronic1> I can survive until the 24th of April...i think.
[01:18] <vulcar> out of curiosity is there a reason why my network card isn't being registered as an 802.11N but rather as an 802.11G
[01:18] <Stormx2> I don't know xD
[01:18] <geektasticgirl> well thanks for the help
[01:18] <vocx> geektasticgirl, I wouldn't recommend it, if this is your first linux system. Just create the basic partitions. Once you see how your system performs, you'll have an idea of what partitions if any to create.
[01:19] <geektasticgirl> well i've installed linux before a few times, been like 10 yrs tho
[01:19] <geektasticgirl> i think i did some linking
[01:19] <kitche> vulcar: probably because N isn't officially out yet
[01:19] <spork969> vulcar, check your drivers
[01:19] <unop_> spork969, what are you trying to do?
[01:20] <vulcar> spork969, I have the right driver, it registers N on windows but not on ubuntu
[01:20] <geektasticgirl> i think i made a partition and mounted it to some other dir off root then symbo linked /usr /lib etc to subdirs of that partition, if orget
[01:20] <agroker> geektasticgirl, I'd say since your HD is single physically, it does not matter too much how you partition it
[01:20] <geektasticgirl> well i want fast boot times
[01:21] <tarkus> hey guys, a few buddies and i thought of this project. let me know if you think this would be successfull. would you join if it was active and well implemented/designed? http://dpaste.com/40492/
[01:21] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl: Dedication partitions to things can make it slower, because your disk reads a lot faster on the inside.
[01:21] <Stormx2> Unneccesarily putting stuff on the outside just slows things down
[01:21] <vocx> geektasticgirl, well if you installed linux 10 years ago, you are probably more experienced than most of us. However, the booting time depends on the kernel. You could compile your own custom kernel with only the modules you need for your hardware.
[01:21] <unop_> geektasticgirl, if you want fast boot times, then the lesser the number of partitions, the better -- this is because time is lost verifying the state of the partition before mounting it
[01:22] <geektasticgirl> shouldn't i put /home on a separate partiton tho?
[01:22] <spork969> unop, i have 217 pictures of my trip to new york city, and i am trying to make a slideshow to show my friends all the pictures without uploading them all to photobucket or something because it would take forever. anyway, my camera renames pics starting at IMG_001.JPG every time you plug the card into my computer. i am trying to rename the files so they appear as alphabetical by the time i...
[01:22] <Stormx2> Yeah you should
[01:22] <geektasticgirl> or make 1tb / ? lol
[01:22] <spork969> ...put them on my computer, so the slideshow will go by date, not name.
[01:22] <Stormx2> thats a point where the advantages outweight the disadvantages.
[01:22] <geektasticgirl> ok
[01:22] <spork969> vulcar, i believe windows and ubuntu have different drivers. i am not 100% on this though
[01:22] <geektasticgirl> 50gb root?
[01:23] <geektasticgirl> 50gb of 1tb
[01:23] <Malik_> can some1 help me otu in settign up wirless ..i jus can't do it
[01:23] <Stormx2> You're not optimising a server here. This is a desktop machine with plenty of capacity that you'll never use. Putting things like /var on a different partition is pointless.
[01:23] <geektasticgirl> 50gb overkill for root?
[01:23] <geektasticgirl> what about tmp files and var etc
[01:23] <Stormx2> Not overkill but seems excessive unless you're going to be compiling endless kernels.
[01:23] <geektasticgirl> seems like 10gb is kinda small if i have 1tb
[01:23] <danand_> geektasticgirl - 50gb is _plenty_ - 20gb should be enough
[01:23] <Stormx2> 10GB is small.
[01:24] <Stormx2> 25GB would be fine though.
[01:24] <unop_> spork969, if you have directories of pictures, say for e.g. a directory called new_york_city -- you can rename them using rename - rename 's/IMG/nyc/' /path/to/new_york_city*
[01:24] <spork969> geektasticgirl, go for 20-25GB
[01:24] <unop_> spork969,  rename 's/IMG/nyc/' /path/to/new_york_city/*
[01:24]  * agroker recalls the Holy Hand Grenade manual...
[01:24] <xb3rt> Using ubuntu if i run an ethernet cable from my laptop to a desktop pc can is their a configuration tool on ubuntu somehwere to let me use the desktop pcs resources on my laptap along with what my laptops got
[01:24] <danand_> any more bidders .... going at 20-25gb then... :)
[01:24] <xb3rt> For hardware only
[01:24] <spork969> unop, i'm using pyrenamer, it has a renaming tool based on EXIF data
[01:24] <Stormx2> xb3rt: define resources.
[01:24] <vulcar> spork969, through ndiswrapper it should register but someone informed me that wireless n may not be registering linux since its not offical, thanks for the help though
[01:24] <vocx> geektasticgirl, 1 TB space, that is actually a lot. I would say do whatever you want, since it's a lot of space. 50 or 100 GB for / seems sane in that case.
[01:24] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: it needs to be a crossover cable, and yes, you can just assign IPs to both machines and address them just like you would on a normal network, and use whatever applicable tool you need (probably ssh/scp)
[01:25] <geektasticgirl> what happens when game developers start making 3d games for linxu lol.. one game takes up 8gb (e.g. wow)
[01:25] <spork969> vulcar, sorry i couldnt solve your problem
[01:25] <geektasticgirl> root gonna fill up fast hehe
[01:25] <Malik_> can some1 help me install wirless?
[01:25] <Stroganoff> geektasticgirl, 50GB is more than enough for /
[01:25] <Stormx2> vocx: No, it isn't. Because the root file system can only grow so large without doing something extreme. I could make use of 1TB of media if I tried.
[01:25] <geektasticgirl> guess i could do custom install to /home partiton
[01:25] <unop_> spork969, i suppose you can do that if the EXIF data has something meaningful .. :)
[01:25] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: so my laptop would then have the power of the laptop and the desktop, right
[01:26] <spork969> unop, the EXIF data includes the date and time i took the image
[01:26] <geektasticgirl> ok gonna go with 30gb root, sound good?
[01:26] <geektasticgirl> since i have 1tb
[01:26] <Stroganoff> yep
[01:26] <Stormx2> 30GB is good.
[01:26] <knight17> Hi All!
[01:26] <knight17> May I know how can I get to know how much bandwidth is being conumed, is there any terminal commands for it
[01:26] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: ? what do you mean
[01:26] <geektasticgirl> so 30gb root, 8192mb swap, and the rest /home
[01:26] <unop_> spork969, cool -- so, you're sorted then? :)
[01:26] <geektasticgirl> in that orde?
[01:26] <geektasticgirl> root/swap then home right?
[01:26] <ey-nonymous> Having a small problem, when I format disks, under permissions just "Unknown" is shown under all three listboxes....
[01:27] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl, unless you have an older mobo, consider putting your swap drive first for greater speed.
[01:27] <spork969> geektastic, i didnt know you had 1TB, 50GB is excessive, but you should be fine
[01:27] <geektasticgirl> i guess ishould have ms vista on last partition, not first on hd
[01:27] <unop_> knight17, do you mean statistics like how much data was sent or recieved?
[01:27] <spork969> unop, yeah, thanks for the help
[01:27] <geektasticgirl> cause ubuntu will run faster i guess
[01:27] <knight17> Yes unop_
[01:27] <vocx> !enter | geektasticgirl
[01:27] <ubotu> geektasticgirl: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:27] <ne0> hey so how can i get a usb wacom to work?
[01:27] <ne0> with ubuntu
[01:27] <geektasticgirl> sorry about that ubotu
[01:27] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: lets say the desktop pc has 1gig ram and my laptop has 1gig, could my laptop potentially combine that and work as if it had 2gigs
[01:27] <Stormx2> Why are you optimising your computer so much for ubuntu when you're running vista? xD
[01:27] <geektasticgirl> well
[01:27] <vocx> !sorry | geektasticgirl
[01:27] <ubotu> geektasticgirl: It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[01:28] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: no
[01:28] <unop_> knight17, you can use ifconfig for that -- it tells you how many bytes were sent/recieved for an interface
[01:28] <yowshi> unop_, is there aniother way other then backing everything to another hdd i could back up my files. i dont have enough backup space for everything
[01:28] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: that's not how networking really works
[01:28] <geektasticgirl> i dont' think i am gonan run vista, but want to save room forit
[01:28] <geektasticgirl> like 100gb
[01:28] <ne0> ??
[01:28] <spork969> geektasticgirl, 100GB is plenty for vista
[01:28] <Stormx2> Right now there isn't really a point in running Vista. Tbh I don't know why I'm running XP, I liked 2000 more.
[01:28] <unop_> yowshi, remind me again what it is you want to do with the harddrive ?? repartition it?
[01:28] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: I could basically just use the storage space on it or applications
[01:29] <ne0> 100gb is not a lot if u have vista and watch lot of movies
[01:29] <geektasticgirl> shoudl i put vista at the end?  e.g.  30gb /, 8gb swap, 800gb /home, 100gb vista?
[01:29] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: yes
[01:29] <ne0> vista is a hog
[01:29] <spork969> geektasticgirl, my sisters running vista, and she has only used like 5GB. she's not much of a geek though so idk.
[01:29] <yowshi> yeah i know i probably need to move everyting because
[01:29] <unop_> geektasticgirl, 8GB swap is overkill :)
[01:29] <geektasticgirl> well i use lots of mmorpg games, they take up GIGS lol
[01:29] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: for a home user, what is the gain in that?
[01:29] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, i'd avoid vista completely.
[01:29] <yowshi> unop_, resizing the /home p[artition to incluse my /usr partition which are on two seperate harddrives would probably need both to be formatted and who knows whatelse
[01:29] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: nothing
[01:29] <vocx> Stormx2, I never used 2000, I jumped from ME to XP. The bestest Windowze is XP.
[01:29] <geektasticgirl> i have vista installed now on first partition, this ubuntu is on partition2 of hte hd
[01:30] <yowshi> unop_, but i figured i would ask in case it isnt needed for both to be formatted
[01:30] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl, what do you do for a living that allows you to buy a high-end PC _and_ have time to play MMORPGs?
[01:30] <geektasticgirl> but i wanna redo it.. i think i want vista at the end of the hd
[01:30] <spork969> XP > VIsta > 2000 > Me
[01:30] <ne0> lol
[01:30] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, windows xp is more compatible with games than vista. i couldn't get Diablo 2 to work right in VIsta
[01:30] <geektasticgirl> well vista has the cool aero :P
[01:30] <spork969> im pretty sure 3.1 was better than Me
[01:30] <Stormx2> XP (just) > 2000 > Vista > ME
[01:30] <Stormx2> I'll admit Vista is better than ME :)
[01:30] <vocx> We are all off topic, please ban us all!
[01:30] <yowshi> 100Gb isnt high ende
[01:30] <geektasticgirl> but ubuntu destroyes aero and mac quartz compositoer
[01:30] <yowshi> 3 250 gigs is
[01:30] <geektasticgirl> the compiz
[01:31] <Dr_willis__> we all know it was downhill all the way from MSBOB.exe
[01:31] <Dr_willis__> :)
[01:31] <spork969> vocx, we are talking about computers and operating systems, close enough
[01:31] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, you could just use VMWare to make virtual machines, so you can avoid partitioning all together. but thats just me. :)
[01:31] <geektasticgirl> vista runs pretty well on 4gb of ram btw iwth fast 3d video card :)
[01:31] <Stormx2> Dr_willis__, :)
[01:31] <czerkez> Poland welcome
[01:31] <geektasticgirl> i can use VMware on ubuntu to run Vista?
[01:31] <Stormx2> czerkez, er, hi?
[01:31] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: do you ever make applications or program?
[01:31] <czerkez> hi stormx2 how do you do?
[01:31] <unop_> yowshi, how are the partitions laid out on the 2HDDs now?
[01:32] <geektasticgirl> btw i use wine to run guild wars.. and it runs fast and flawless lol
[01:32] <Dr_willis__> geektasticgirl,  you may be better off running XP in vmware , then using xp.
[01:32] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, yes and you can use VMWare to run linux on windows. :)
[01:32] <Stormx2> czerkez, fine, yourself? can I help you?
[01:32] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: yes, i am a software engineer
[01:32] <yowshi> i have / swap /boot and /usr on sda and /home on sdb
[01:32] <Breakage> hi im having some trouble with saving to x config file in nvidia-settings with version 169.12, when i've set up the displays and click save to x configuration file nvidia-settings just quits. theres no pop-up about the changes and it doesn't save, anyone know what's wrong? it will save if i'm not using twinview with just one monitor.
[01:32] <geektasticgirl> oh i bet ubuntu and x is slow under vmware under windows?
[01:32] <agroker> czerkez, what do you sell?
[01:32] <unop_> yowshi, and you want to put /home on sda ?
[01:32] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, Wine has gone a long way.  VMWare would be the way to go. I can boot windows XP like an applications using VMWare
[01:33] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: for someone like myself, i know some visual basic but its been awhile.  What language would you recommend diving into
[01:33] <yowshi> least i think i have a /boot partition no i want to combine /usr and /home. i originally made them seperate for simpliciies sake unop_
[01:33] <geektasticgirl> do the xp apps run fast under vmware ?
[01:33] <geektasticgirl> on ubuntu
[01:33] <vocx> Cann0n, VMWare for games?
[01:33] <geektasticgirl> i have 2 x 2.6ghz sysstem 4gb of ram
[01:33] <Stormx2> xb3rt: Depends what you want to do.
[01:33] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: depends on what you want to do, c or c++ is fine, python, whatever
[01:33] <geektasticgirl> i dobut world of warcraft runs fast under vmware under ubuntu lol
[01:33] <agroker> geektasticgirl, you are very cool
[01:33] <Stormx2> Jinx :)
[01:33] <yowshi> unop_, because i didnt unserdtand LVM and i wanted to be up and running after spending days just figuring out how to install with a raid
[01:33] <vocx> xb3rt, Fryguy-- if you want to discuss programming join #ubuntu-programming
[01:33] <potato> can any one help me with getting this usb wireless adaptor working?
[01:34] <Cann0n> vocx, no, you can boot windows like an application, then install games on the virtual machine, THEN play games.
[01:34] <xb3rt> I kind of want to make my own messenger for private use
[01:34] <xb3rt> just for the hell of it
[01:34] <unop_> yowshi, well .. why is this not feasible -- leave /home on sdb -- and just repartition sda to how you like
[01:34] <geektasticgirl> agroker lol.. i am a clueless lol.  so many options
[01:34] <Fryguy--> i'm getting really sick and tired of contributing multiple hours a day of my time in here, and then get scolded by random people
[01:34] <geektasticgirl> oh i need to run quicken 2008 so i gues si shoudl do that under vmware under linux
[01:34] <geektasticgirl> shoudl run plenty fast enough for a that
[01:34] <Cann0n> Fryguy--, welcome to IRC
[01:34] <yowshi> unop_, i would leave home on sdb but i want home to have almost all of /usr's space /usr is like 200+ gigs
[01:35] <agroker> geektasticgirl, still, not everybody here has access to 4gb of RAM under 32-bit Vista
[01:35] <vocx> Cann0n, I mean, are Virtual Machines now powerful enough to run games? Because you need access directly to 3D and sruff.
[01:35] <Stormx2> Fryguy--, scolded by who? o.O
[01:35] <Dr_willis__> vmware and games  for windows = not a good combo.
[01:35] <Dr_willis__> vocx,  its due to how thjey have to handle the video hardware/emulation.
[01:35] <geektasticgirl> vmware for xp for quicken 2008 under ubuntu = good idea?
[01:35] <Stormx2> Best run 3D games natively, no matter what your system stats.
[01:36] <unop_> yowshi, ok, why not like this then? leave sdb intact for now -- repartition sda like this -- /boot / swap /tmp /usr /home -- install linux, and then copy the contents of sdb into /home ??
[01:36] <Dr_willis__> vocx,  ive heard vmware is working on it. but  I will be suprised if they make it useable any time soon.
[01:36] <geektasticgirl> stormx2, guild wars runs fine under wine.. it doesnt' od a lot of windows calls
[01:36] <vocx> Dr_willis__, yes that's what I mean.
[01:36] <geektasticgirl> stormx2 , it runs dang fast actually
[01:36] <yowshi> ummmm i could do that unop_ but that leaves all of sdb unused
[01:36] <geektasticgirl> it loads up faster on ubuntu then my vista machine
[01:36] <Dr_willis__> The world does not revolve around pc 'games' :)
[01:36] <yowshi> unop_, as in not mounted under ubuntu unused
[01:37] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl, yeah but even so it acts as a bottleneck, and sooner or later you'll have a game that'll run slower under wine than windows.
[01:37] <daj0ker> Dr_willis, unless life is a game ... then what?!? O.o
[01:37] <Stormx2> s/wine/vmware
[01:37] <m1r> but most computers do Dr_willis__
[01:37] <vocx> Fryguy--, that was a friendly comment in case you wanted to hang out and help others in #ubuntu-programming to take some load off this main channel.
[01:37]  * agroker thinks that perhaps dedicated game console would be more suitable for games...
[01:37] <geektasticgirl> stormx2, yeah like wow, which is written better for directx, but supposrt opengl.. but slower unde that.. had to set it for opengl.. runs slow udner wine
[01:37] <Fryguy--> vocx: you call 1-2 moderately offtopic statements a "load"
[01:37] <Cann0n> vocx, I still have my laptop's driver and application dvd. so far, everything i have done with vmware has been successful. but then again, i dont play many games. only computer game i play is D2 and thats one every 6 months. but, i can watch DVD's on a virtual windows machine
[01:37] <unop_> yowshi, lol -- errm, so what do you want placed on sdb then??  if i were you, i'd make a new mount point under sda called /home/data (or /media/data) and have sdb mounted under that -- and place movies, music, etc, etc in it
[01:38] <geektasticgirl> but there is this cadega software you can buy that is suppose to make games run at native speed on linux *windows games that is)
[01:38] <Fryguy--> vocx: I don't develop for ubuntu (I barely even use ubuntu) so I have no reason to hang out in #ubuntu-programming since I don't contribute to that project
[01:38] <yowshi> unop_, so your saying if you were me you would leave sdb alone and just mount it manually?
[01:38] <unop_> yowshi, that way you seperate your /home from most of your data and still make use of sdb
[01:38] <Cann0n> Cedega ^
[01:38] <runemast1> This is getting unusable
[01:38] <Dr_willis__> daj0ker,  i want my $$ back.
[01:38] <daj0ker> lol
[01:39] <yowshi> unop_, i could do that and i could make a nice panel entry for that mounting :)
[01:39] <geektasticgirl> CannOn, is cedega set of direct x libraries or something?
[01:39] <vocx> Fryguy--, It's general programing, not specific to ubuntu. Besides, since it's still a small channel we talk nonsense and vent some times.  Overall, you can port support forums on mmorpgs under linux.
[01:40] <geektasticgirl> so i dont' need cedega? i can tweak my wine to make a pc game run as well as with cedega?
[01:40] <Fryguy--> vocx: there is #programming for that.  I don't really want to hang out in a programming related channel that is also related to ubuntu.  please join #offtopic for further discussion about the matter
[01:40] <Dr_willis__> yowshi,  fstab is rather straight forwared.. and when in doubt BACKUP THE ORIGINAL
[01:40] <unop_> yowshi, there's really little need for the "panel entry" to mount sdb if you have an fstab entry --
[01:40] <ka2> geektasticgirl: cedega runs some things that wine doesnt
[01:40] <Malik_> do i need internet to install beryl???
[01:40] <runemast1> In the space of about an hour, ive got 500 lines in /var/log/messages about my touchpad losing sync
[01:40] <Dr_willis__> yowshi,  learning how fstab works and how to mount things manually. is a VERY VERY VERY handy skill to learn
[01:40] <lilg111111> anybody know how to get gusty to work with yahoo internet radio
[01:40] <ka2> Malik_: don't install beryl
[01:40] <Malik_> y not?
[01:40] <ka2> Malik_: use compiz fusion
[01:40] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, you should be able to run wine and/or vmware under ubuntu and that should give you the edge. mind you, not everything runs smoothly with linux, especially when they aren't designed to run on linux.
[01:40] <Dr_willis__> !compiz | Malik_
[01:40] <ubotu> Malik_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[01:40] <unop_> yowshi, well, if you are never going to take chances -- you're never going to learn -- :) and with the right restraint, adding an fstab entry is actually quite safe and easy to do
[01:40] <geektasticgirl> lol instead of improvingg wine, they take opensource code, modifiy it and sell it.. i thought that was against the license?
[01:40] <ka2> Malik_: beryl is no longer developed
[01:41] <vocx> Fryguy--, copy that.
[01:41] <Malik_> but the cube
[01:41] <Malik_> its awesome
[01:41] <ka2> geektasticgirl: not the old one
[01:41] <willytell> Could a hard disk with Linux installed on a computer work on another computer?
[01:41] <yowshi> unop_, i have taken chances before and i have paper eighted my comp before
[01:41] <Dr_willis__> Malik_,  beryl IS compiz now.
[01:41] <geektasticgirl> compiz rocks
[01:41] <unop_> yowshi, havent we all? :)
[01:41] <ka2> geektasticgirl: wine used to be bsd licensed
[01:41] <Malik_> o
[01:41] <Stormx2> willytell, maybe
[01:41] <Dr_willis__> i think the cube is useless...
[01:41] <ka2> Dr_willis__: compiz fusion
[01:41] <Malik_> do i need intert to install that
[01:41] <Cann0n> Malik_, you get my email?
[01:41] <geektasticgirl> did they stealt hat idea from apple quartz compositor or did apple steal it from the linux community? heh
[01:41] <yowshi> unop_, but there are somethings so beyond me in current understanding i wont do anything to them without someone there to guide me because i have no tiddly fracking idea what i am doing
[01:41] <Malik_> lemme check
[01:42] <ka2> geektasticgirl: steal what idea
[01:42] <Dr_willis__> Malik_,  you need to get your video card drivers properly installed first
[01:42] <slide> how do i regenerate shadow from passwd after i do vipw?
[01:42] <unop_> yowshi, really, it's not that scary -- and you can always backup /etc/fstab before making changes to it - so if incase you do mess up, you can always restore it
[01:42] <Malik_> alrite  so wat do i do
[01:42] <unop_> yowshi, we can walk you through it if you like :)
[01:42] <yowshi> unop_, of course one has to be able to recognize one has made the mistake in the first place
[01:42] <Dr_willis__> !nvidia | Malik_
[01:42] <ubotu> Malik_: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:42] <ka2> Malik_: fiesty or gutsy?
[01:42] <willytell> Stormx2, what's depend it?
[01:42] <geektasticgirl> ka2, quartz compositor, under mac os x makes use of 3d card and everythign is really fast .. i was wondering if the developers of compiz got the idea from apple
[01:42] <Malik_> wat?
[01:42] <Malik_> wat r those
[01:42] <Stormx2> willytell: Well do you want to boot from the linux disk or just view the files on it?
[01:42] <Stormx2> !r | Malik_
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about r - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <Stormx2> Oh whack.
[01:43] <unop_> yowshi, ok ok, so you're against an fstab entry - you can always have your panel entry -- same difference :)
[01:43] <Stormx2> Malik_, please spell, thanks :)
[01:43] <yowshi> well ok i got everything i need then i just have to backup amovies and the since i did manage to get a friend to drop off a disk i can reinstall and ask you guys how to put my desktop panel back up and my programmes tooi
[01:43] <Dr_willis__> Malik_,  it may be best to go to ubuntu.com and read their beginner guides. :) and the ubuntu book at......
[01:43] <willytell> Stormx2, I want boot from the linux disk.
[01:43] <lilg111111> anybody know how to get gusty to work with yahoo internet radio
[01:43] <yowshi> unop_, i aint against it i would love to learn fstab i just wont do it solo :)
[01:43] <Malik_> i read a few
[01:43] <geektasticgirl> anyways it hougth the apple mac was so cool, had microsoft beat as far as window graphics.. until i saw what linux can do with compiz ... lool
[01:43] <Stormx2> willytell: Pretty slim chance it'll work 100%
[01:43] <Malik_> but can u help me get compiz
[01:43] <grumpy_gramps> my hp deskjet lives on a ms machine serving as print server.  Nothing I have tried has succeeded in getting my new ubuntu machine to see it.  Can anyone help?
[01:43] <Dr_willis__> Malik_,   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training  -
[01:44] <unop_> yowshi, you can learn about /etc/fstab by reading the manpage -- man fstab
[01:44] <Dr_willis__> Malik_,  compiz IS installed allready on the latest gutsy/ubuntu release.
[01:44] <vocx> geektasticgirl, it doesn't matter whose idea was it. It is developed by open source so nobody is stealing anything. Let's just say everybody had the same idea at the same time.
[01:44] <Malik_> how do i check which realse i hav
[01:44] <geektasticgirl> vocx, was jsut curious
[01:44] <geektasticgirl> who came up iwth teh idea
[01:44] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, open source is why linux is free, and there are so many distro's
[01:44] <Dr_willis__> Malik_,  what did you install?  try lsb_release -a in a terminal
[01:44] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl,  google.com
[01:44] <unop_> Malik_, lsb_release -a
[01:44] <Malik_> i got the 7.10 veersion
[01:44]  * yowshi faints* unop_ i have tried i dopnt get much from how-to's and walkthroughs unless they are really REALLY thorough. i am to newb to everything
[01:44] <geektasticgirl> yeah i'll google it
[01:44] <Cann0n> this is ubuntu chat
[01:44] <Malik_> alrite 1 sec
[01:45] <yowshi> unop_, so if there is a an acronym used or a -R in a command i dont know what it does i need to know befor ei use it and howtos dont generally explain that
[01:45] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl: Who came up with what idea?
[01:45] <spork969> open source is why i am still living
[01:45] <phoenix24> anyone using anjuta ?
[01:45] <Malik_> gusty
[01:45] <spork969> without open source, the world would be much colder
[01:45] <geektasticgirl> stormx2 compositer
[01:45] <Malik_> gutsy*?
[01:46] <Malik_> i got gutsy
[01:46] <phoenix24> I try to open C src file in anjuta, but it throws an error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5955/
[01:46] <ka2> Malik_: go to System > Appearance > Desktop Effects
[01:46] <Cann0n> Malik_, lets solve the wifi problem first. :P
[01:46] <anaxagorus> for some reason, my highlight is not copying to clipboard -- anyone know how to troubleshoot this?
[01:46] <andrea6030> how do i set up firefox so the irc xdcc commands pass through?
[01:46] <Malik_> i can't find apperance
[01:46] <Malik_> nvm
[01:46] <Fryguy--> phoenix24: you aren't trying to open it in anjuta, you are trying to open it in nautilus, big difference.  right click the file and select open with
[01:46] <ka2> Preferences > Appearance
[01:47] <geektasticgirl> i was surprised to see how fast gimp and open office loads on linux/ubuntu.. open office loads up much slower on windows.. i love this os.
[01:47] <geektasticgirl> alright gonna go, thanks all for the help
[01:47] <Malik_> where is desktop effect
[01:47] <anaxagorus> i.e. when i highlight text, i can't paste it -- this used to work
[01:47] <willytell> Stormx2, thank you for the answer. I'll try it out.
[01:47] <Malik_> can0n: first this
[01:47] <unop_> yowshi, well, part of learning about linux is learning where to look for information depending on the context -- sometimes you have to read manpages, sometimes vendor documentation, sometimes other people's blogs, there are many ways..
[01:47] <spork969> geektasticgirl, good luck with your formatting
[01:47] <spork969> unless you already did
[01:47] <ka2> Malik_: Visual Effects
[01:47] <Malik_> i can't find desktop effect??
[01:47] <spork969> which is probably true
[01:47] <vocx> geektasticgirl, thats probably because the gtk libraries and some other libraries are already loaded on Ubuntu when you start your gnome session.
[01:47] <agroker> geektasticgirl, ever tried ooo quickstarter under windows? Bet, you'd be surprised
[01:48] <yowshi> yes i know google is my friend
[01:48] <Malik_> yea i see it
[01:48] <Cann0n> Malik_, i also have a guide on how to get compiz working under ATI devices   :P
[01:48] <rodolfo> Buenas
[01:48] <Malik_> its on extra
[01:48] <rodolfo> hello
[01:48] <yowshi> but i learn better interactivly
[01:48] <Fryguy--> anaxagorus: how are you trying to paste
[01:48] <ar0n> Cann0n id like to see that guide....
[01:48] <Dr_willis__> Malik_,  you will proberly want to install the 'ccsm' tool to have full control of all the compiz-eyesore-candy :)
[01:48] <Dr_willis__> !ccsm | Malik_
[01:48] <ubotu> Malik_: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[01:48] <geektasticgirl> lol eyesore? haha
[01:49] <unop_> yowshi, it is tough at first .. even i'll admit to having torn my hair out several times when i first started -- but it gets better and soon you don't even realize things have gotten easier :)
[01:49] <ethan961> compix-eyesore?
[01:49] <anaxagorus> wait -- the middle button just worked!
[01:49] <geektasticgirl> compiz makes me much more productive
[01:49] <Malik_> so where do i go to install ccsm
[01:49] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: how
[01:49] <vocx> anaxagorus, the middle button is the best!
[01:49] <yowshi> unop_, your talking to someone who actually forgot how to make and make install after not using either command for a few months
[01:49] <Dr_willis__> geektasticgirl,  i can think of like 2 features of compiz that i like :)
[01:49]  * nikrud thinks everyone should have to hand craft ppp and chat scripts just once
[01:49] <Dr_willis__> geektasticgirl,   and the rest. is just to impress the windows zombies standing behind me.
[01:50] <unop_> nikrud, no, please no :p
[01:50] <geektasticgirl> ability to press super + mouse scroll wheel to to adjust opactiy of any window.. super M for negative of any window... Scale plugin rocks.. see all windows from all workspaces at once .. so many thijngs
[01:50] <runemast1> I tried to install fluxbox on a computer at school... i couldnt get any application menus or anything... any ideas i can try when i go back?
[01:50]  * ka2 thinks nikrud should try to forget about dialup ;)
[01:50] <Malik_> where do i go
[01:50] <ar0n> Cann0n
[01:50] <Cann0n> Malik_, i told you,    sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:50] <geektasticgirl> the cube is wonderful
[01:50] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: any decent window manager is going to have similar functionality
[01:50] <Malik_> alrite
[01:50] <yowshi> nikrud i have written a couple irc scripts waaaaaaaaaaaay back
[01:50] <sarixe> hi, how do i disable gutsy-backports?  it's messing with a PPA that i had a better amarok (lipgpod3 support) from...
[01:50] <Cann0n> ar0n, yes?
[01:50]  * regeya uses the expose-like feature of compiz to great effect
[01:50] <unop_> yowshi, well, you should test my memory sometime .. i have a 5 second attention span and forget like a goldfish :p
[01:50] <Malik_> type that in the keernal wile live vd is in rite
[01:50] <ar0n> compiz and ati
[01:50] <geektasticgirl> fryguy they run compiz?
[01:50] <ar0n> you had a guide.
[01:51] <ka2> the zoom is great (Windows Key + Scrollwheel) in compiz
[01:51] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: ?
[01:51] <geektasticgirl> ka2, indeed
[01:51] <Cann0n> its under construction :P
[01:51] <yowshi> unop_, LOL you sound like me LOL
[01:51] <Cann0n> you need help?
[01:51] <geektasticgirl> ka2, i scrool and super L, to lock and play games that were made in low rez lol
[01:51] <diuneigh_> can we receive any technical support here?
[01:51] <vocx> sarixe, check in software sources or repositories
[01:51] <Fryguy--> diuneigh_: ask a question
[01:51] <unop_> yowshi, so it wasnt just me, eh? ;) and it isnt just you -- welcome to humanity :)
[01:51] <vocx> diuneigh_, read the topic also.
[01:52] <Saraphim> Greetings. Is there any way to easily upgrade my gutsy to Hardy to participate in testing?
[01:52] <ka2> geektasticgirl: i might try that one i hadn't thought of that
[01:52] <sarixe> vocx: but is it as simple as just removing things?  i mean, how to i downgrade back to the normal repo?
[01:52] <Fryguy--> Saraphim: join #ubuntu+1
[01:52] <Saraphim> Fryguy--: Thanks
[01:52] <geektasticgirl> to see videos of what compiz fusion can do:  go to youtube and search on compiz
[01:52] <Cann0n> ar0n, you need to get ATI Radeon cards working under compiz-fusion?
[01:52] <diuneigh_> fryguy:  tryguy trying to mount my windows drive from another machine to my ubuntuu desktop so other programs can see it..
[01:52] <geektasticgirl> you'll see about 50 videos
[01:52] <ka2> sarixe: you don't
[01:52] <ar0n> well kinda, im using the 'ati' driver and i had to disable i something in a boot file somewhere i think disabling acpi(very late at nite and under meds) any how it was the only way i could get videos to play back
[01:52] <geektasticgirl> it is awesome, no other os can do this yet that i knwo of lol
[01:52] <Fryguy--> diuneigh_: install samba and use that
[01:52] <vocx> sarixe, yes it should be simple. The repositories appear on /etc/apt/sources.lis
[01:52] <ar0n> i just want to get my vid card properly installed on my box
[01:52] <saminthemiddle> hello everyone
[01:53] <Cann0n> ar0n, join #Cann0n
[01:53] <sarixe> ka2, vocx : does it automatically downgrade all the packages?  or does it just leave them sitting?
[01:54] <ka2> sarixe: leaves them sitting
[01:54] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: both vista and osx are capable of similar feature sets
[01:54] <vocx> sarixe, oh, it does not "downgrade" that's silly. It just disables the repositories. I guess, that if you want the older packages you have to (re)install them yourself.
[01:54] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: eyecandy is a waste of time in general.  cool to show off 3d effects I guess, but I prefer to get work done
[01:54] <sarixe> vocx, ka2: and then i can safely downgrade the individual package?
[01:54] <Cann0n> ar0n, type   lspci -nn | grep VGA and see what kind of card you have, then you need to see if it is compatiable with full 3d support. some ATI cards arent
[01:55] <unop__> yowshi, anyway -- i hope my suggestion of leaving sdb intact for now suits your requirement for now -- i'm off to install windows on my sisters laptop
[01:55] <vocx> sarixe, I guess so. Because the non-backported are the ones originally distributed with the distro.
[01:55] <saminthemiddle> hey, could anyone help we with my wireless? I need to start and stop my IPW3945 card on sleep/resume else the computer crashes.
[01:55] <sarixe> vocx: k, i'll try what you guys said
[01:56] <saminthemiddle> the problem that I have is that I can't find the daemon (which is what is causing the problem) in /etc/init.d/ so I don't know how to kill it nicely
[01:56] <CokeNCode> ok, so i've loaded up a live cd, because my linux distro isn't coming up
[01:57] <CokeNCode> how do i mount the hard drive
[01:57] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: use the mount command
[01:57] <vocx> saminthemiddle, you can use /etc/init.d/networking [stop|start|restart]
[01:57] <CokeNCode> i never did quite get the hang of the linux mount command
[01:57] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: man mount has everything you need to knwo
[01:57] <CokeNCode> Fryguy--,  ... syntax ? :S
[01:57] <saminthemiddle> thanks vocx
[01:57] <donkey7186> im looking for someone who can help me get a command that allows me to startup my wireless connection instead of having to go through manual configuration
[01:57] <saminthemiddle> vocx, I'm guessing that that kills ALL of my network interfaces, right?
[01:57] <danand_> CokeNCode - Places -> Computer -> Rclick on drive and select mount
[01:58] <ViO> hi guys, how do i fix my cpu speedstep in oh-holy-ubuntu 8.04 ?
[01:58] <CokeNCode> example of the syntax please :(
[01:58] <Fryguy--> ViO: join #ubuntu+1
[01:58] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: like i said, everything you need to know is in the man page
[01:58] <ViO> =)
[01:58] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: mount /dev /mountpoint
[01:58] <Al-Khouli> Guys, am packages problem or it's Ubuntu ?! i can fill the RAM and swap space by just scrolling over a pdf file !!
[01:58] <CokeNCode> ok, i'm running 'mount /dev/hda
[01:58] <CokeNCode> '
[01:58] <ka2> saminthemiddle: yes thats all interfaces
[01:58] <CokeNCode> but i'm getting errors
[01:58] <CokeNCode> why won't that work
[01:59] <vocx> saminthemiddle, maybe. I'm not sure. By the way, those are scripts. So you can read them and try to figure out what they do. They also invoke other scripts like "ifup" and "ifdown"
[01:59] <saminthemiddle> ka2, vocx, thanks, let me test that, brb
[01:59] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: depends on what the errors are, read the manpage
[01:59] <ka2> Al-Khouli: in evince ("Document Viewer")
[01:59] <rodolfo> Hello I've upgraded my kernel to 2.6.22-14-generic from the repository, but when I reboot my pc, it lost the wireless connection and it still has the Intel wireless drivers, what exactly do I need to do to fix this problem?
[01:59] <donkey7186> im looking for someone who can help me get a command that allows me to startup my wireless connection instead of having to go through manual configuration
[01:59] <CokeNCode> it's saying the mount point doesn't exist
[01:59] <yowshi> unop_, it does indeed. and when amovies is done copying i will be reinstalling ubuntu
[02:00] <Fryguy--> Al-Khouli: i can scroll through 1000+ page ebooks without issue
[02:00] <vocx> CokeNCode, commands like mount need root access, which means you use "sudo mount"
[02:00] <m1r> my CPU is being used 100% by trackerd , is it posible to stop it working and starting on system boot ?
[02:00] <danand_> CokeNCode - do your drives not show up in the Places -> Computer  window?
[02:00] <yowshi> and then i'll be back with a crapload of questions
[02:00] <agroker> donkey7186, what is the wireless interface name?
[02:00] <saminthemiddle> vocx, ka2, nope I'm still here; the network is still online
[02:00] <woodwizzle> I just downloaded skype 2.0 now that its final. It is for i386 though and I'm on amd64, how can I get it to install? (i know I got one of the previous betas to work)
[02:00] <CokeNCode> danand_, i'm running nubuntu
[02:00] <Al-Khouli> ka2, yes, and i am using a wine to run PDF X-change and it has the  same problem, so it thought it's not evince !
[02:00] <unop__> yowshi, whatever you do -- dont format anything on sdb :)
[02:00] <yowshi> LOL of course not
[02:00] <itaku> how can i run mac os x or yahoo widgets on ubuntu?
[02:00] <CokeNCode> vocx, yeh, i've been using sudo
[02:00] <Al-Khouli> Fryguy--, do u use evince !?
[02:00] <diuneigh_> fryguy:  done that already....where can I get the syntax for mounting the network drive?
[02:00] <Cann0n> ar0n, you want that guide?
[02:00] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: please pay attention to what I said before.  example  mount /dev /mountpoint, and i'm going to say it again, read the manpage everything you need to know is in there
[02:00] <CokeNCode> 'sudo mount /dev/hda /'
[02:00] <yowshi> how can i make sure before i reboot that everything is where i think it is partition wise
[02:00] <vocx> saminthemiddle, what? It should work. "sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop"
[02:00] <Fryguy--> diuneigh_: smb://ip
[02:00] <ka2> itaku: you can't
[02:01] <CokeNCode> but, where's my hard drive mounted now ? :S
[02:01] <itaku> there has to be a program to
[02:01] <saminthemiddle> vocx, that's right
[02:01] <Christoz> Hello Everyone I have a very serious problem her!
[02:01] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: it's mounted on /
[02:01] <diuneigh_> fryguy: should I follow this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingNovellNetworkDrives?highlight=%28mount%29%7C%28drive%29%7C%28network%29
[02:01] <agroker> CokeNCode, df
[02:01] <Cann0n> Christoz, what is it?
[02:01] <Fryguy--> diuneigh_: do you have a novell network drive?
[02:01] <saminthemiddle> Christoz, at least you don't have a very serious problem "him" ;-)
[02:01] <donkey7186> agroker what do you mean wireless interface name
[02:01] <donkey7186> like eth1?
[02:01] <Christoz> lol
[02:01] <unop__> yowshi, well, it matters when you are installing ubuntu and you're at the paritioning screen -- it'd be best to not touch sdb there at all -- just concentrate on sda
[02:01] <Christoz> listen
[02:01] <Al-Khouli> saminthemiddle, lol
[02:02] <Christoz> Cannon i have a laptop which has the ati radeon x1600 vga card ,tried to enabled via the restricted device manager and after logging out a "new" operational system appeared I think that that was Xubuntu (this iso cd comes from the linuxformat Greece magazine).Then restarted the computer and after that Ubuntu never has loaded yet....it "jams" in with a black screen and seconds after , the hard drive stops reading or writing...This must be very
[02:02] <Christoz> serious!
[02:02] <Christoz> Please help me with this.
[02:02] <rodolfo> Hello I've upgraded my kernel to 2.6.22-14-generic from the repository, but when I reboot my pc, it lost the wireless connection and it still has the Intel wireless drivers, what exactly do I need to do to fix this problem?
[02:02] <diuneigh_> Fryguy: no, that the only think I could find on the forums that deals with mounting a network drive.
[02:02] <agroker> donkey7186, type iwconfig in the shell and inspect the output
[02:02] <CokeNCode> i don't see anything
[02:02] <CokeNCode> hmmm
[02:02] <yowshi> right but swap might be on sdb but i dont have to format swap either so either way sdb not getting touched
[02:02] <yowshi> all on sda
[02:02] <Fryguy--> diuneigh_: just install samba and visit smb://<ip> in nautilus
[02:02] <CokeNCode> is there another name that my hard drive could possibly have
[02:02] <donkey7186> agroker eth1
[02:02] <danand_> CokeNCode - mount command - sudo mount -t <fstype> /device/path /mount/point -o <options ie ro,noexec etc>
[02:02] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: yes
[02:02] <diuneigh_> fryguy: ok I'll try..
[02:03] <ne0> hello
[02:03] <ka2> hello
[02:03] <saminthemiddle> hello, ne0
[02:03] <agroker> donkey7186, then you should isssue something like: sudo ifup eht1
[02:03] <unop__> yowshi, well, yea -- but only you know where swap is now .. anyway, you get my point :)
[02:03] <CokeNCode> how do i know what the name of the hard drive is ?
[02:03] <ne0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=708726
[02:03] <Al-Khouli> hello ne0
[02:03] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: look at dmesg
[02:03] <ne0> is there and update for that wacom drivers?
[02:03] <runemast1> CokeNCode: fdisk -l
[02:03] <Cann0n> Christoz, does it jam as in the a faulty xorg config?
[02:03] <noble-> I installed ubuntu on a dual boot with vista. I have tons of free space on the vista partition, but only about 9gb on Ubuntu's partition. Is there a way I can dedicate more of vista's freespace to Ubuntu without destroying either OS?
[02:03] <yowshi> yeah anyway whats the command to list my partition
[02:03] <yowshi> partitions
[02:03] <donkey7186> agroker how do i do that. i want it to be a command on startup so i dont have to do manual config.
[02:03] <unop__> yowshi, sudo fdisk -l
[02:03] <Fryguy--> noble-: use a tool like gparted or partition magic to resize the partitions
[02:03] <CokeNCode> fdisk -l didn't do anything
[02:03] <yowshi> thanks
[02:03] <r00723r0> Is there any BitPim-like software for Ubuntu?
[02:03] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: look at dmesg
[02:04] <Al-Khouli> noble-, u can resize ur vista partition from inside vista
[02:04] <ne0> ?
[02:04] <saminthemiddle> well, I think I know why my sleep hasn't been working right, obviously /etc/init.d/network doesn't control the IPW3945 card so the sleep script hasn't been shutting it down. ergo, bad things happening on resume.
[02:04] <amenado> CokeNCode-> look at this directory  /dev/disk   by-uuid
[02:04] <agroker> donkey7186, then you should go under System->Administration->Network and play with settings there
[02:04] <yowshi> cool everything is where i nthought it was :)
[02:04] <Christoz> Cannon I don't know never been xperienced in this problem ,this is a friends of mine eho brought it to me
[02:04] <ka2> ne0 is using an hp tx2000 tablet pc and the wacom drivers included in ubuntu don't support his tablet
[02:04] <Al-Khouli> noble-, then mount /home for instance on that partition
[02:05] <Christoz> Cannon and brought it to me
[02:05] <belkinhelp2> how can you change servers?
[02:05] <ne0> so theres no drivers for it right now? I have that tablet so I was thinkin of booting to ubuntu with it but i need that to work
[02:05] <UncleChevitz> I'm a linux newb, port 25 is open on my machine and I don't think it needs to or should be open, how do I close it?
[02:05] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: ?
[02:05] <ka2> ne0: looking
[02:05] <saminthemiddle> ka2, ne0, I didn't even know that Linux supported tablet PCs at all!
[02:05] <donkey7186> agroker i have played with the settings. but for some reason when i startup, in order for my wireless to work i have to change a setting in manual config.
[02:05] <Fryguy--> UncleChevitz: stop running whatever MTA you are running
[02:05] <Christoz> Cannon after the "grub" screen i pick the ubunt and then it just stops
[02:05] <yowshi> hmmm i thought i had a /log partition since someone once told me /log gets fragmented crazy fast so having it seperate to format or empty out everynow and then is a good idea
[02:05] <Al-Khouli> noble-, i mean the freed one
[02:05] <ne0> what should I do?
[02:05] <belkinhelp2> for instance irc.onlinegamesnet.net
[02:05] <yowshi> anyone have any suggestions for partition setups
[02:05] <vocx> Fryguy--, MTA? What is it?
[02:05] <CokeNCode> hmmm
[02:06] <hackeron_> is there anyway to record from line-in and use skype or any other voip at the same time? - It seems I have to select my source to be either the microphone or line-in - is there no way to do both?
[02:06] <belkinhelp2> how would i get on that server?
[02:06] <Fryguy--> vocx: Mail transfer agent
[02:06] <ka2> saminthemiddle:: well these ones work - http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=679
[02:06] <Cann0n> Christoz, try selecting the failsafe boot option in grub. you might need to get access to a command line and type  z> Cannon and brought it to me
[02:06] <agroker> donkey7186, how does your /etc/network/interfaces file looks like?
[02:06] <potato> can some one tell me how i can make sure that my usb wireless card is working?
[02:06] <belkinhelp2> is there a /join server command?
[02:06] <Cann0n> woops hold on. let me get you the command
[02:06] <Christoz> Cannon i need youtr guide in console
[02:06] <UncleChevitz> thanx Fry, I installed Apache to play with it, does it have an MTA?
[02:06] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, I though that etc3 automatically kept itself unfragmented. My software engineer friend tried to explain it to me once but it was way over my head
[02:06] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: depends on the irc client you are using.  outside of the scope of this channel
[02:07] <vocx> ne0, send mails to the wacom people asking them to release drivers for linux. That's it. If they open source the specifications of their tablets, linux people can create the drivers themselves.
[02:07] <donkey7186> agroker how do i look for that? im a noob at this
[02:07] <rodolfo> Hello I've upgraded my kernel to 2.6.22-14-generic from the repository, but when I reboot my pc, it lost the wireless connection and it still has the Intel wireless drivers, what exactly do I need to do to fix this problem?
[02:07] <Fryguy--> UncleChevitz: no
[02:07] <Tempo-> I just finished installing ubuntu on computer, but it has a usb wireless card. how can i get and install the proper drivers without having internet for the ubuntu machine (i have internet on my Mac and that is what I am using here)
[02:07] <belkinhelp2> im using the ubuntu client that comes standard with 7.1ß
[02:07] <Keidale> Hey all I'm having an issue with the download manager, it's not installing in the right folder. : ERROR: could not create configuration directory /home/root/.synaptic - mkdir (2 No such file or directory)
[02:07] <belkinhelp2> 7.10
[02:07] <vocx> belkinhelp2, I think it is "/server freenode"
[02:07] <Cann0n> Christoz, try typing   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:07] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, from what i have read on ext3 it does a pretty good job of keeping itself fragment free as long as there is about 25% of the hdd space free
[02:07] <agroker> donkey7186, type: grep auto /etc/network/interfaces
[02:07] <potato> can some one tell me how i can make sure that my usb wireless card is working i have ubuntu 7.10 should it just auto detect it?
[02:07] <danand_> CokeNCode - if you run sudo fdisk -l that should give you a list of all your partitions and file system types
[02:07] <M4rotku> how do I delete a directory that only has root permission?
[02:07] <ka2>  belkinhelp2: what client?
[02:07] <Fryguy--> M4rotku: become root and delete it
[02:07] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, hence my huge hard drive
[02:07] <ne0> I heard some distros have drivers for tablets?
[02:07] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, hehehe how big is your hdd?
[02:07] <woodwizzle> I just downloaded skype 2.0 now that its final. It is for i386 though and I'm on amd64, how can I get it to install? (i know I got one of the previous betas to work)
[02:07] <M4rotku> fry, how do i log into root?
[02:07] <ne0> like gentoo or something
[02:08] <donkey7186> it says auto lo and auto eth1
[02:08] <Fryguy--> M4rotku: use su, or sudo
[02:08] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, 160GB
[02:08] <vocx> potato, check the ubuntuforums.org search for your USB wireless card, and read other people's experiences
[02:08] <belkinhelp2> xchat-gnome 0.18
[02:08] <donkey7186> agroker it says auto lo and auto eth1
[02:08] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, w/ hardware FDE :-D
[02:08] <M4rotku> i tried using sudo with the rm command it and said i couldn't delete a directory
[02:08] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, cool i got 3 250 gigs two of which are in actual constant use
[02:08] <Tempo-> should i do same thing as potoato?
[02:08] <potato> vocx: thanks for the info
[02:08] <Cann0n> ne0, many come with those drivers. its the matter of configuring
[02:08] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, hardware FDE?
[02:08] <Fryguy--> M4rotku: so then read the manpage for rm and realize you need to specify -r
[02:08] <ne0> oh
[02:08] <M4rotku> ok, got yah, i'll try it, thanks
[02:08] <ka2> saminthemiddle: 160gb huge?
[02:08] <tocmo0nlord> installing cpanel on server at home via SSH, im on laptop now, laptop rebooted, lost the ssh window, how would i be able to resume viewing what is going on ?
[02:08] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, hardware accelerated full disk encryption. courtesy of my Fritz chip :-)
[02:08] <ne0> so then its not configured for ubuntu
[02:09] <danand_> M4rotku - what directory are you trying to delete
[02:09] <yowshi> ka2, 160 is pretty big
[02:09] <saminthemiddle> ka2, for me it is
[02:09] <Christoz> Cannon ok I'm in CInfiguring xserver-xorg
[02:09] <Fryguy--> tocmo0nlord: you can't, dropped connection is a dropped session.  run gnu screen next time.  it allows session saving
[02:09] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, i dont need encryption much on this desktop
[02:09] <Tempo-> I'll take your silence as yes...
[02:09] <rahduke> quick question little help please
[02:09] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, unless you're storing video, then it's small
[02:09] <vocx> ne0, it is configured for Ubuntu and for many users. What happens here is that yours does not work with the current driver, you are out of luck maybe.
[02:09] <yowshi> so anyone got any partition setup suggestions?
[02:09] <rahduke> I installed some fonts and there not showing up in appearance settings
[02:09] <ka2> yowshi: and i got a 320gb because it was cheap ?!
[02:10] <Remi_> does ubuntu support the 8600gs m?
[02:10] <M4rotku> dan, i had created one for a game to load files to, it didn't work so i don't need it anymore, it's gone now
[02:10] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, as for me, lossless audio storage and even then it's big enough
[02:10] <tocmo0nlord> <Fryguy-- is the proccess still running even if i got disconnected ?
[02:10] <Fryguy--> tocmo0nlord: no
[02:10] <agroker> donkey7186, sorry I  don't know
[02:10] <donkey7186> ok
[02:10] <tocmo0nlord> ah crap
[02:10] <danand_> M4rotku - k ... just in case :)
[02:10] <Fryguy--> rahduke: how did you install the fonts?
[02:10] <saminthemiddle> ka2, yowshi, 320GB isn't cheap on a laptop drive. ever
[02:10] <ka2> saminthemiddle: ah a laptop :)
[02:10] <rahduke> thru gksudo nautilus copy and paste
[02:10] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, aaaaaah well i dont have a laptop :(
[02:10] <ne0> so should I use another distro?
[02:10] <potato> vocx: do i just put the name of it or the model num too?
[02:10] <ka2> saminthemiddle: that explains it
[02:10] <Gman99999> Does anyone know if ubuntu can handle WPA with an invisible wireless network name ie "unamed network"?
[02:10] <rahduke> i see them in the font foler
[02:11] <Fryguy--> rahduke: where did you install them do
[02:11] <Keidale>  Hey all I'm having an issue with the download manager, it's not installing in the right folder. : ERROR: could not create configuration directory /home/root/.synaptic - mkdir (2 No such file or directory)
[02:11] <Fryguy--> Gman99999: yes it handles it fine
[02:11] <UncleChevitz> I don't actually need port 25 open unless I use a client that uses that port right?
[02:11] <thehilarityensue> lol
[02:11] <rahduke> fonts:///
[02:11] <yowshi> rahduke, i dont use nautilus in gksudo after the first time i tried it. i ttried it and then after i closed the window nautilus was still using like half of one of my cores
[02:11] <Fryguy--> UncleChevitz: right
[02:11] <Gman99999> fryguy-- ok i had problems with it, it didnt even pick my network up and i was a foot away from it
[02:11] <yowshi> rahduke, in processing power
[02:11] <saminthemiddle> ka2, yowshi, yes, I am planning on getting a 500gb 3.5 w/ enclosure soon to compliment a TV tuner card
[02:11] <Fryguy--> Gman99999: that's unfortunate
[02:11] <rahduke> what would u suggest instead?
[02:11] <Gman99999> fryguy-- when i boot into windows on the same computer it works great
[02:12] <rahduke> how else can i modify files like that without being root?
[02:12] <vocx> potato, usually they have a name like Belking 54, and a revision like v5 or v7. More important is the chipset, which you know once you are running the Ubuntu CD. Why don't you try the Live CD already?
[02:12] <Fryguy--> rahduke: go to fonts:// in nautilus and drag/drop your fonts there to properly install them
[02:12] <saminthemiddle> by the way, can anyone recommend, preferably a hybrid, tv tuner card that works though the USB interface?
[02:12] <yowshi> rahduke, i use pc file manager launched from the cli in sudo
[02:12] <Fryguy--> Gman99999: works fine for me
[02:12] <rahduke> ill look into it
[02:12] <danand_> yowshi - /boot = 100Mb , /root = 10-25Gb , swap = 2xRam or 2gb max , /home = rest
[02:12] <rahduke> so your saying drag and drop don't copy and paste?
[02:12] <Gman99999> fryguy-- do you know how to install kde ontop of a ubuntu installation?
[02:12] <Fryguy--> rahduke: or whatever, sure
[02:12] <rahduke> what should i do with the existing fonts in that folder?
[02:12] <yowshi> danand_, thanks why root?
[02:12] <vocx> UncleChevitz, I think you are being paranoid. That seems like a Windows attitude.
[02:12] <ne0> or would others distro wouldnt matter
[02:12] <Fryguy--> Gman99999: yes, google it it's like the first result (short answer: install kubuntu-desktop)
[02:13] <Christoz> Cannon ok Ii choose vesa xserver friver?
[02:13] <UncleChevitz> recovering windows user
[02:13] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, by the way, if you want to know my partition scheme, it's 6gb of / 2.1gb of swap (for hibernation purposes) and the rest /home
[02:13] <rahduke> ive already put the fonts in the fonts:// folder
[02:13] <Christoz> Cannon ok I choose vesa xserver driver?
[02:13] <rahduke> they don't show up after reset
[02:13] <Fryguy--> rahduke: no idea then
[02:13] <danand_> yowshi - sorry ... tired .... that should be / ie your root partition :)
[02:13] <vocx> ne0, you could try another distro, but when it comes to hardware (video cards, tablets, etc.) they are handled by the linux kernel which is basically the same for all distros.
[02:13] <yowshi> oh /root as in just /
[02:13] <UncleChevitz> you hit the nail on the head
[02:13] <potato> vocx: i dont use the live cd i hhave it alredy installed
[02:13] <danand_> yowshi - yes :)
[02:14] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, and if you're going to put them on separate partitions at least make them LVM, but that negates the fragmentation advantages of separate partitions
[02:14] <ne0> so do i just need to wait im guessing or something
[02:14] <ne0> for drivers
[02:14] <Gman99999> fryguy-- with this give me the new kde 4.0 or 3.5?
[02:14] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, on the other hand, you have to weigh the cost of the guaranteed seek time that you impose with partitioning
[02:14] <Fryguy--> Gman99999: 3.5 probably
[02:14] <potato> vocx:  this wireless card is not for connecting my laptop to the net its to connect to my psp
[02:14] <itaku> is there any NCAA program for linux?
[02:14] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, that are all going to be on one hdd
[02:14] <hikenboot> greetings all is it true ubuntu 7.1 during install offers the option of full disk encryption?
[02:14] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, my advice would be, unless you have a very good reason to put it on a different partition, don't
[02:14] <itaku> some taskbar widget or something
[02:14] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, the second hdd is not going to be touched and just added later in fstab
[02:15] <Christoz> Cannon r u still there?
[02:15] <Fryguy--> hikenboot: need to use alternate install cd for it, but yes
[02:15] <vocx> potato, then type "lsusb" it should list all your USB devices. Check then information displayed. Then search the forums. If it's something proprietary it won't work.
[02:15] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, how does LVM work anyway. i understand nothing about it
[02:15] <hikenboot> does the alternate cd dis offer anything the ubuntu desktop does?
[02:15] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, you might want to consider making them on an LVM so you can merge the two drives later if you want, say a 600gb /home (good god, why?)
[02:15] <Fryguy--> hikenboot: ?
[02:15] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, I don't have much time but
[02:15] <potato> vocx:  ok ill try it
[02:15] <hikenboot> am i loosing a lot by using the alternate cd?
[02:15] <vocx> ne0, yes, wait for drivers. Ask the hardware manufacturers to release linux drivers.
[02:15] <potato> thanks alot
[02:16] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, LVM is basically a big partition with sectors (or whatever they call them) in it
[02:16] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, each sector is assigned a virtual partition
[02:16] <Fryguy--> hikenboot: no. it installs the same system.  it's just a text-based installer with advanced features instead of being a livecd
[02:16] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, 600+ GB hgome for video storage i have 100+ gigs in video already not to mention ISO's and stuff for game play since i prefer to use images instead of cd's
[02:16] <Tempo-> Ok. after looking on the ubuntu wiki and forum, none of my usb wireless network cards are supported. I really want unternet for my ubuntu computer, but don't want to run a cable all through the house. am i screwed?
[02:16] <hikenboot> great thanks Fryguy--
[02:16] <ne0> hmm so should I install ubuntu or not....
[02:16] <ViO> how do i enable speed step on my cpu.. (c2d 2.2ghz - laptop)
[02:16] <Fryguy--> Tempo-: use a pci wireless card, or get a wap to act as a repeater
[02:17] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, in other words, rather than having a contiguous zone for a partition, the partition is just like a file on a partition
[02:17] <m1r> Tempo- try ndiswrapper
[02:17] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, i dont think i will need to merge the hdd's later on into one partition if unop__ 's idea works as i think it will
[02:17] <Tempo-> Fryguy: don't have a pci wireless card. don't know what a wap is (or a repeater for that matter)
[02:17] <vocx> Tempo-, you can buy another, cheap, guaranteed-to-work card. That way you support those who release drivers and cooperate with open source.
[02:17] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, the big advantage of LVM is threefold, first, the partions can be fragmented allowing for instant resizing of partitinos
[02:17] <Fryguy--> Tempo-: time to do a  bit of research then i guess
[02:17] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, also, it makes the partitions device independent
[02:18] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, partitions device?
[02:18] <Tempo-> vocx: it is 7 at night, it is alittle late to go do anything right now.
[02:18] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, finally it's only two fold :-)
[02:18] <m1r> Tempo-: ndiswrapper and windows driver
[02:18] <Christoz> Hello Everyone I have a very serious problem her!
[02:18] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, partitions become device independent
[02:18] <Keidale> What do I need to change so the update manager will load to right folder
[02:18] <Christoz> Hello Everyone I have a very serious problem here
[02:18] <Tempo-> I was wondering if there were any drivers i could download and compile
[02:18] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, and that means?
[02:18] <vocx> Tempo-, what are these cards you have that don't work?
[02:18] <Christoz> Cannon i have a laptop which has the ati radeon x1600 vga card ,tried to enabled via the restricted device manager and after logging out a "new" operational system appeared I think that that was Xubuntu (this iso cd comes from the linuxformat Greece magazine).Then restarted the computer and after that Ubuntu never has loaded yet....it "jams" in with a black screen and seconds after , the hard drive stops reading or writing...This must be very
[02:18] <Christoz> serious!
[02:18] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, the partition does not care if it has a sector in a different device or not
[02:18] <Tempo-> why would pci work and not usb?
[02:18] <vocx> Tempo-, well I don't mean buy them right now! I mean next time you have the time.
[02:18] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, i see
[02:19] <Christoz> sorry cannon
[02:19] <belkinhelp2> I have a seemingly simple question.  How do I create a desktop "shortcut" to a folder in someone else's account?
[02:19] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, normally partitions have to be contigious sections of disk
[02:19] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, anyway, I really need to go
[02:19] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, ttyl
[02:19] <Dr_willis__> belkinhelp2,    ln -s /one/place/ /path/to/otherplace/
[02:19] <saminthemiddle> thanks everyone
[02:19] <Fryguy--> Christoz: boot to a recovery system and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf so that it has proper settings for your setup, or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:19] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, so thats why to make /home over 2 hdd's one needs to lvm it
[02:19] <vocx> Tempo-, the drivers are already compiled when you install the distribution so getting and compiling source most probably won't do anything better.
[02:19] <yowshi> laterz saminthemiddle
[02:19] <Tempo-> vocx: i got it. that was my attempt at sarcasm. guess i forgot to stretch my sarcasm muscle
[02:19] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, that is right
[02:19] <Dr_willis__> belkinhelp2,  i may have the 2 arguments backwards
[02:19] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, later
[02:19] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: explain
[02:20] <danand_> ViO - have you checked you have the correct module loaded into the kernel ... type - lsmod | grep speedstep and see if anything shows up. if not, you may want to try a modprobe -l | grep speed to show available drivers
[02:20] <belkinhelp2> ln -s /one/place/ /path/to/otherplace/  is that like source and destination?
[02:20] <Tempo-> so i really only have two choices. get a different card, or go wired?
[02:20] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: yes
[02:20] <itaku> how can i run mac os x or yahoo widgets on ubuntu?
[02:20] <belkinhelp2> thanks
[02:20] <Christoz> fryguy with vi i have never used it before...i do not know what to choose for dpkg-recon....xserver-xorg
[02:20] <ka2> itaku: no
[02:20] <Fryguy--> Tempo-: they are the easiest choices, yes
[02:20] <belkinhelp2> do all the paths start with /home?
[02:21] <vocx> Tempo-, you are hilarious.  Anyway. Which cards are these? I need to know which not to buy.
[02:21] <itaku> ka2, there has to be a way a program or something...
[02:21] <Fryguy--> Christoz: there's other editors available than vi (and just learn it it's not that hard), and the options for dpkg-reconfigure are based on your hardware, you need to be somewhat familiar with your hardware in order to configure it
[02:21] <Tempo-> fryguy--: if they are the easiest what are the not so easy choices. (probably over my head right?)
[02:21] <arooni_> is there a way i can compress a .mpg file from 1024 resoltion to something that i could upload to youtube?
[02:21] <Christoz> ok wirh lspci?
[02:21] <Fryguy--> Tempo-: finding and compiling kernel modules, which is outside of the scope of this channel
[02:22] <Fryguy--> arooni_: use mencoder
[02:22] <ViO> !pastebin
[02:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[02:22] <unop__> arooni_, sure, check out ffmpeg (i think i already suggested that to you(
[02:23] <Al-Khouli> !pastebin
[02:23] <Tempo-> fryguy--: bummer. make no mistake, I live and breathe computers (macs and windows) but this is my first indeavor into linux. Ill be sumbleing around for the next month while i get comfortable...
[02:23] <Tempo-> *stumbling
[02:23] <Al-Khouli> ViO, how could i ask tell the bot to throw things on the screen ?!
[02:23] <Al-Khouli> ask -
[02:23] <vocx> Tempo-, the last resort would be to use "ndiswrapper" to use your windows XP drivers in linux. But since you checked the wikis and forums...
[02:23] <Netham45> I have 3443 lines of this: 3443	<IP_ADDRESS>	Unnamed	NO	Canada	Rogers Cable
[02:23] <Netham45> and all I want isthe IP
[02:23] <Netham45> how would I go about extracting that?
[02:24] <Tempo-> vocx: Ndiswrapper? is that like wine?
[02:24] <ViO> Al-Khouli: commands? type a personal message like help to it..
[02:24] <Fryguy--> Netham45: sed and awk, or perl, or cut.  shell scripting is outside of the scope of this channel
[02:24] <Netham45> ok
[02:24] <Pici> Netham45: try #bash
[02:24] <Netham45> 'k
[02:24] <Christoz> fryguy what should i put when it ask aount of memory to be used by the video card?
[02:25] <Fryguy--> put how much you need
[02:25] <vocx> Tempo-, it is only good for network drivers, search the term NDIS (wikipedia).
[02:25] <Christoz> fryguy amount sorry
[02:25] <Fryguy--> Christoz: i don't knwo your hardware, and I dont' really want to know what it is.  You are responsible for knowing what the hardware is on your machine
[02:25] <Al-Khouli> ubotu, pastebin
[02:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[02:25] <Tempo-> vocx: thanks for the help.
[02:25] <Fryguy--> Christoz: just pick a value, if it's wrong, just reconfigure it again
[02:25] <Al-Khouli> ubotu, man
[02:25] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:25] <unop__> Netham45, cat file | perl -nle 'print /((?:\d{1,3}(?:\.|\b)){4})/'
[02:26] <dyrne> Christoz: its usually pretty good about determining this  if you dont know the answer just hit enter
[02:26] <nikrud> oh, my eyes!
[02:26] <Netham45> unop: freaking sweet. ^.^
[02:26] <Netham45> thanks.
[02:26] <pi_master> I have so much trouble figuring this out from what's out there online...what's the best way to run a program on startup of GNOME in ubuntu?
[02:26] <Al-Khouli> ViO, does it annoy all the guys around ?!
[02:26] <Fryguy--> unop__: cut would do a far better job, but ok :0
[02:26] <ViO> usually
[02:26] <Fryguy--> pi_master: system | preferences | session
[02:26] <unop__> FrancoGG, better job?? thats very very debatable -- but anyway
[02:26] <Christoz> fryguy ok question 2nd: use kernel frame buffer device interface?
[02:26] <vocx> unop__, that's excessive no? I think a simple awk print $2 or something would do. If the input is separated by spaces in columns.
[02:26] <dyrne> pi_master: system --> pref --> sessions --> startup tab
[02:27] <Fryguy--> Christoz: i have no idea, it depends on your hardware and how you want it configured.
[02:27] <Al-Khouli> ubotu, help
[02:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:27] <unop__> vocx, yes, but you have to absolutely ensure that you dont get something that resembles an IP address but isnt actually an IP address printed out -- soemthing like 123.123 or <IP_ADDRESS>.5
[02:28] <pi_master> thanks dyrne...everything else I've been able to find has a bunch of different config and rc files you can edit....which always turns out bad
[02:28] <Lokey> Yea i have a printer and it works and everything but when i try to scan something it dont go to the computer
[02:28] <unop__> vocx, and it's not excessive, i think it homes right in on whats needed
[02:28] <vocx> unop__, gotta love the perl
[02:28] <belkinhelp2> damnit....the last folder is named "two words" and the link is now to a file named "words"....how do I give the link command to incorporate noncontiguous folder names?
[02:28] <dyrne> pi_master: well you could edit /etc/init.d/skeleton which is basically a template for making your own init.d script then run sudo update-rc.d -f scriptname defaults but ... yeah that may be overkill :)
[02:29] <unop__> vocx, it's my swiss army knife :) replacement for sed, awk, cut, grep, etc, etc :)
[02:29] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: properly escape your file names, or use quotes
[02:29] <vocx> unop__, swiss army chainsaw
[02:29] <belkinhelp2>  ln -s /home/"Eigene Musik" /home/testuser/Desktop/Musiclink ...like this?
[02:29] <Netham45> hey unop__, how do I add :1080 on to the end of that?
[02:29] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: no
[02:30] <unop__> vocx, well, yea, the noun could be anything you like :)
[02:30] <potato> vocx: my spicific model doent pull up in the fourms
[02:30] <yowshi> ffs it takes so blasted long to copy over 83.7 gigs of stuff
[02:30] <Tempo-> vocx: alright. so if it isn't in the wiki or the forum it won't work, period?
[02:30] <tritium> yowshi: watch the foul-language acronyms please
[02:30] <unop__> Netham45,  perl -nle 'print /((?:\d{1,3}(?:\.|\b)){4}:1080)/'
[02:30] <Netham45> ty ty ty
[02:30] <vocx> Tempo-, most probably. But I need to know the model. Maybe I can search better than you.