[22:35] <micahg> for any AA reviewing shimmer-themes, I did a review of the package before mr_pouit uploaded


[00:24] <SamuelMarks> hi
[00:25] <SamuelMarks> I updated all my packages in Ubuntu 24.04 and now I can't get a graphical interface. I've tried a bunch of `startx` equialents like `dbus-run-session --gnome-shell --display-server --wayland` but it doesn't work. So I'm in recovery mode now with networking then resume normal boot (irssi)
[00:28] <sarnold> every few boots I get something similar on my laptop running focal and it's just easier to reboot the thing than trying to troubleshoot it :(
[00:29] <SamuelMarks> sad
[00:29] <SamuelMarks> Also I think SDL2 not working was related to this earlier today
[01:01] <SamuelMarks> Darn, no more tips on how to get my machine working again?
[01:03] <SamuelMarks> ok I'll reboot into Windows; and tomorrow will try upgrading all packcages again and see if that fixes things. Maybe an `apt install ubuntu-desktop`
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> hexchat updated to 2.16.2-1build2 in noble does that mean it will be still supported the whole 24.04 cycle, even if hexchat is abandoned?
[10:48] <schopin> lotuspsychje: same as any package in universe.
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx schopin
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> so we got some time to switch clients :p
[10:52] <schopin> lotuspsychje: note that I didn't say it would be fully supported. Packages in universe are supported by the community, not Canonical (unless you use ubuntu-pro, in which case there's best effort support).
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> allrighty tnx
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> when a transfer completed on qbittorrent the new number notify on the icon remains after qbittorrent is closed
[19:08] <FroMaster> There's an open bug for Mantic that still exists with Noble. Is there a way to update the existing Bug to tag Noble or should I file a new Bug so it gets tracked as impacting Noble?
[19:43] <RikMills> FroMaster: what bug?
[19:44] <RikMills> targeting to certain releases requires enhanced permissions on the bug tracker


[13:10] <luis220413> Is anyone here?
[13:14] <luis220413> Can a member of the Ubuntu Security Team sponsor some of my updates?
[13:15] <amurray> hey luis220413 - I was just about to go eod when I saw this - so I haven't looked in detail but my last recollection is that we are still waiting on test results from you for a bunch of your updates
[13:15] <amurray> they fail for us so we are not happy to release them in that state - so without further info I don't think we can proceed at this time - for the others, I think folks are looking at those but you would have to ping those who have already responded on LP for more info
[13:17] <amurray> anyway, it's 10:46pm for me on friday night so I'm heading out but will take a look at scrollback on Monday morning if you are able to provide more details in the meantime - have a great friday/weekend :)
[13:17] <luis220413> amurray: The update in bug 1982670 is ready, even though a difficult-to-fix CVE is unfixed. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jupyter-notebook/+bug/1982670/comments/16
[13:17] <luis220413> The link is to a comment explaining my testing.
[13:18] <luis220413> For bug 1986627 I will perform testing now.
[13:19] <amurray> ok - thanks - builds tests are good but better would be some integration level tests - we have had cases in the past where a package builds fine and its unit tests all pass but then it breaks some other package which depends on it
[13:20] <amurray> so any chance you could test some of the reverse-depends for jupyter-notebook to give some more confidence that this won't cause a regression for some package that depends on it? thanks
[13:20]  * amurray zzzz...
[13:54] <luis220413> The reverse dependencies in Ubuntu 18.04 are built from 3 source packages: jupyter-notebook itself, ipywidgets and sagemath. I am running autopkgtest locally with a schroot for Ubuntu 18.04 amd64 on these source packages.
[13:55] <luis220413> The runs for ipywidgets and sagemath result in PASS and SKIP (package does not have tests), respectively.
[13:57] <luis220413> I will return in 45 minutes but remain online.
[14:04] <luis220413> List of my security bugs with patches: https://bugs.launchpad.net/%7Eluis220413/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.information_type%3Alist=PUBLICSECURITY&assignee_opti
[14:04] <luis220413> on=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_patch=on&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has
[14:04] <luis220413> _blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search
[14:08] <luis220413> I will return in 45 minutes but remain online.
[15:24] <luis220413> I am back.
[15:59] <luis220413_> Please set the status of CVE-2022-38150 for bionic, focal, jammy and trusty as not vulnerable, because only versions >= 7.0.0 are affected, according to the upstream advisory: https://varnish-cache.org/security/VSV00009.html#vsv00009
[16:00] <luis220413_> And set the status for devel to "pending (7.1.1-1)". There is a build failure on ppc64el due to a new warning that is turned into an error, discussed in bug 1971504. My solution is to disable -Werror.
[16:03] <luis220413_> The build does not fail on Debian: https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=varnish
[16:04] <luis220413> Is anyone from the Ubuntu Security Team here?
[16:16] <ebarretto> we don't usually use pending status for non-kernel packages
[16:18] <mdeslaur> ebarretto: we do for the dev release
[16:20] <mdeslaur> luis220413: ok, CVE-2022-38150 updated, thanks
[18:04] <luis220413> The local autopkgtest run on Ubuntu 18.04 for jupyter-notebook succeeded. (bug 1982670)
[18:05] <luis220413> Please mark CVE-2022-38150 as not affecting trusty/esm and CVE-2021-32798 as not affecting jammy.
[18:07] <luis220413> I mean: Please set the status of CVE-2022-38150 for trusty/esm and CVE-2021-32798 for jammy as "not affected (6.4.8-2)".
[18:07] <luis220413> *not-affected
[18:07] <luis220413> I mean: Please set the status of CVE-2022-38150 for trusty/esm to not-affected (code not present) and of CVE-2021-32798 for jammy to not-affected (6.4.8-2).
[18:11] <luis220413> I will leave now. I would like you to sponsor my update in bug 1982670 after I perform integration testing for Ubuntu 20.04 and 22.04.


[03:20] <koolkat> hello?
[03:20] <koolkat> I NEED TO TALK TO SOMEONE
[03:21] <koolkat> How do I become a Documentation Member?
[03:24] <nixternal> if you would have stayed a minute longer, I would have told him
[03:24] <nixternal> man, I talked to him yesterday about MOTU, this guy really wants to help
[03:25] <Flannel> He's still around, query him
[03:26] <nixternal> ya, talking to him in #ubuntu-devel
[03:26] <nixternal> he is coming now
[03:26] <nixternal> right now!
[03:26] <nixternal> now!
[03:26] <nixternal> and
[03:26] <nixternal> now!
[03:26] <nixternal> ......
[03:26] <nixternal> now!
[03:26] <nixternal> now!
[03:26] <nixternal> man, I stink
[03:26] <koolkat> Hello
[03:26] <nixternal> damn, 3 seconds off :)
[03:27] <nixternal> koolkat: you use Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[03:27] <koolkat> Ubuntu
[03:27] <nixternal> familiar with DocBook/XML?
[03:27] <nixternal> familiar with Bazaar?
[03:27] <koolkat> uhhh....no
[03:27] <nixternal> OK, can you do HTML?
[03:27] <koolkat> no(again)
[03:27] <koolkat> Yes
[03:27] <koolkat> Some
[03:27] <nixternal> great, so DocBook/XML should be easy to pick up
[03:28]  * koolkat wonders what your talking about
[03:28] <koolkat> why?
[03:28] <nixternal> Bazaar is similar to Subversion
[03:28] <koolkat> So...that are you talking about :-?
[03:28] <nixternal> well, we code all of our documentation in DocBook/XML, and all of our code lies within a Bazaar repository on Launchpad
[03:28] <nixternal> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DocumentationTeam
[03:28] <koolkat> Oh...I know how to do the Doc stuff
[03:29] <nixternal> that has some good information on how to get involved
[03:29] <koolkat> I already did like 20 today
[03:29] <nixternal> groovy
[03:29] <koolkat> so .....how do they make me a member?
[03:30] <nixternal> sign up on the documentation team mailing list at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc
[03:30] <koolkat> are you a member?
[03:30] <koolkat> Ok
[03:30] <nixternal> well, you have to contribute for a while before you become a member
[03:30] <nixternal> yes, myself and jjesse who isn't around maintain all of the Kubuntu and KDE documentation
[03:31] <koolkat> you want to slip in a few good word for me.....wink wink
[03:31] <nixternal> the head people for the Ubuntu side are mdke, who is obviously sleeping right now, and Phil Bull, who I don't see on IRC much, but he is all over the mailing list
[03:31] <nixternal> well, gotta see your work first
[03:32] <nixternal> there are student memberships available, and if you ask about it on the mailing list, Phil will probably fill you in on that team info
[03:32] <koolkat> my work.....I am doing a lot in the applications list...and
[03:32] <koolkat> i cant remember
[03:33] <koolkat> what i wasgoing to say
[03:33] <nixternal> well, if it is Gnome related, there is a 99.9% chance I will rarely see your work
[03:34] <nixternal> and Phil should have a list of jobs available either now or fairly soon for Ubuntu 8.04 documentation
[03:36] <koolkat> nixternal: i subscribed to the mailing list
[03:37] <nixternal> groovy
[03:37] <nixternal> it isn't all that high traffic, so it is easy to keep up with
[03:37] <koolkat> anything else that i should do?
[03:38] <nixternal> familiarize yourself with docbook, bazaar, and some of the things mentioned on the wiki page and you should be good to go
[03:38] <nixternal> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyReleaseSchedule
[03:38] <nixternal> always good to know the release schedule for this cycle as well
[03:39] <koolkat> So how do I get notice by mdke or Phill Bull?
[03:40] <nixternal> contribute patches to the mailing list for any projects they may have
[03:40] <koolkat> my username on the doc stuff is aakashpatel
[03:41] <koolkat> i dont know why just said that
[03:41] <koolkat> but there you go
[03:42] <nixternal> hehe, no prob, thanks
[03:42] <koolkat> how does this look? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl/simple
[03:43] <nixternal> nice, clean, and simple..just the way we like it :)
[03:44] <koolkat> good....:-)
[03:45] <koolkat> Is this the page to list all of the software availibe for ubuntu? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Software
[03:46] <koolkat> Becase i just added like 8 programs
[03:46] <nixternal> I guess so
[03:47] <nixternal> first I have noticed that page before honestly
[03:47] <koolkat> have or havent?
[03:48] <nixternal> I haven't seen it before
[03:48] <koolkat> ok
[03:49] <koolkat> so what do you write in
[03:49] <koolkat> what sections?
[03:49] <nixternal> I haven't been on the community wiki in a while actually
[03:50] <koolkat> but isnt that where Im supposed to start?
[03:50] <nixternal> I have been spending a lot of time with Kubuntu and KDE development that documentation has been on a back burner for me here lately...gotta change that though
[03:50] <nixternal> koolkat: yes
[03:50] <koolkat> where should "I" start?
[03:51] <koolkat> in ubuntu
[03:51] <nixternal> I always say "scratch your itch"...fix things that relate to you, work on things that relate to you..therefore making it easier on you
[03:52] <koolkat> Ok
[03:52] <nixternal> there are so many places to start in Ubuntu....documentation, user support in #ubuntu, bug triage, packaging, there is even some marketing and LoCo team stuff as well
[03:55] <koolkat> what does LoCo do?
[03:59] <nixternal> Local Community Team...they do advocation for Ubuntu and other types of work locally within your home community
[04:02] <koolkat> do you have a linksys router?
[04:03] <nixternal> Cisco
[04:04] <koolkat> I thought they only make those expensive ones.
[04:04] <nixternal> I tend to stay away from the consumer products, plus I got my PIX 501 for free
[04:04] <koolkat> how?
[04:05] <nixternal> a friend of mine
[04:06] <koolkat> oh
[04:10] <koolkat> i got to go
[07:56] <mdke> morning all
[11:47] <Lhademmor> hi
[12:16] <Lhademmor> HI!
[12:25] <Lhademmor> arh, screw this


[07:23] <zzarr> hello!
[07:23] <RAOF> Hi!
[07:23] <zzarr> now I'm here again, new thoughts and ideas how to possibly solve my problem
[07:24] <zzarr> Mir on ASUS Chromebook Flip that is
[07:27] <zzarr> I know this is a hypothetical question or a theoretical maybe, but do you think I will be able to use the binary blob with libhybris now when Google enables Android apps on Chromebooks?
[07:27] <RAOF> Possibly?
[07:27] <zzarr> (not just a few apps, all of them)
[07:28] <RAOF> It depends on how they do their EGL layer.
[07:28] <zzarr> I know that it has a lot to do with how they solve the rendering
[07:28] <RAOF> They may well not expose HWC, which would mean “no”.
[07:28] <zzarr> RAOF, what is EGL?
[07:29] <RAOF> The cross-platform bind-a-GLish-API-to-a-native-window API.
[07:29] <RAOF> The abstraction of GLX, WGL, AGL, etc.
[07:30] <zzarr> okey, I'm a bit lost, I confess but I do have a clue
[07:31] <zzarr> I have a feeling that is the way they may solve it
[07:33] <RAOF> They probably *won't* expose HWC (which we need), because that's only needed for implementing SurfaceFlinger, and isn't exposed to Android apps AFAIK.
[07:33] <RAOF> What doesn't work on the Chromebook Flip, by the way?
[07:35] <zzarr> RAOF,could you specify "doesn't work"?
[07:36] <RAOF> What are you trying to do, and what's preventing you from doing it?
[07:37] <zzarr> RAOF, I wish to run an GPU accelerated Mir/Unity8 but it's not possible
[07:38] <RAOF> Why not?
[07:39] <zzarr> no drivers
[07:39] <RAOF> What GPU does it have?
[07:39] <zzarr> it's powered by a Rockchip RK3288 which have a Mali 764
[07:40] <zzarr> there are drivers for Android and for X11
[07:45] <zzarr> it's a bit sad, the Chromebook flip and Unity8's ability to change between desktop and tablet GUI is as made for each other
[07:45] <RAOF> If there are already drivers for android, why can't you use those?
[07:48] <zzarr> don't they require me to build the kernel for android?
[07:48] <RAOF> Yes.
[07:49] <zzarr> how do I do that?
[07:49] <RAOF> The Android OSP should have docs on that.
[07:49] <RAOF> I've not done it myself.
[07:50] <zzarr> okey, do you know if I can keep the rest of the drivers or if I need drivers for the touch, wifi, bluetooth and so on?
[07:51] <RAOF> You'll probably need android-userspace drivers for some of that.
[07:51] <RAOF> Hm, or maybe not.
[07:52] <RAOF> I'd expect touch, wifi, and bluetooth to all be kernel-only and happy with Ubuntu userspace.
[07:52] <zzarr> as it is now they work with Ubuntu
[07:57] <zzarr> RAOF, do you know how to configure the lid? (closed, open or over 180 degrees)
[07:58] <RAOF> No, sorry.
[07:58] <zzarr> okey
[11:50] <greyback> hey folks, in mesa, there is the big egl-platform-mir patch. But I don't see it actually creating a Mir platform, along side the GBM/X11/Wayland platforms.
[11:50] <greyback> e.g. there is no EGL_EXT_platform_mir
[11:52] <greyback>  hey folks, in mesa, there is the big egl-platform-mir patch. But I don't see it actually creating a Mir platform, along side the GBM/X11/Wayland platforms.
[11:52] <greyback>  e.g. there is no EGL_EXT_platform_mir
[12:22] <anpok> greyback: yes. As far as I know support for such an extension does not exist yet.


[10:26] <Oswy> Could that be it?
[10:26] <Flannel> shafto1: or, in apt, remove with --purge
[10:27] <ravi> what do you mean by interrupted?
[10:27] <ravi> does it tell you that you did or what?
[10:27] <shafto1> Flannel, apt --purge beryl?
[10:27] <Oswy> I pressed Ctrl+F1 as it was loading up.
[10:27] <Flannel> Berzerke1: You'll be able to install with the alternate CD, and then do all the tweaking to get it to work
[10:27] <Oswy> Instead of waiting for it to move on past the load screen.
[10:27] <ravi> doesn't matter, it'll continue loading away
[10:27] <ghatak> soundray: thanks
[10:27] <Oswy> k
[10:27] <Oswy> So.
[10:27] <Oswy> Codec 0 missing.
[10:27] <Flannel> shafto1: If beryl is the only package that you installed, then apt-get --purge remove beryl
[10:27] <soundray> Berzerke1: I've answered that.
[10:27] <Oswy> Could that be it?
[10:27] <Berzerke1> do you have some tutorial on installing with the text-based?
[10:27] <Berzerke1> I'm not familiar with linux installs
[10:28] <foutrelis> Berzerke1: It's pretty easy to do :)
[10:28] <Flannel> Berzerke1: it's just like with the desktop install.  It's really friendly.
[10:28] <soundray> Berzerke1: it's quite possible that you can get the Desktop CD to work by tweaking boot options
[10:28] <Math^> hello, can someone give me an example of logging in with ssh from an other pc thats not in to the netwerk?
[10:28] <ravi> don't think so, did you try installing in text mode Oswy?
[10:28] <Oswy> No.
[10:28] <ravi> that'll probably work fine for you
[10:28] <Berzerke1> I actually tried hitting F6
[10:28] <Oswy> How do I do thaht?
[10:28] <Berzerke1> but nothing came up
[10:28] <ravi> just do linux text on boot
[10:28] <ravi> "linux text"
[10:28] <bobbyd> how do I force apt to use my package instead of the downloading one?
[10:28] <Oswy> k
[10:28] <Flannel> Math^: just connect to it with a ssh client.  You'll need the IP, username, and password.
[10:28] <ctfish> Math^: ssh user@ipadress/domain
[10:28] <jared__> I finished installing Studio 8 using wine by following this tutorial: http://blog.publicidadpixelada.com/how-to-dreamweaver-and-flash-8-running-on-ubuntu-dapper/ does anyone know how I can get the icons for the menu?
[10:29] <ravi> that'll surely work, beats having to debug this annoying problem
[10:29] <Oswy> Could not find kernel image: linux
[10:29] <jared__> I can't seem to find them when I'm trying to add the programs to the menu
[10:29] <soundray> Berzerke1: boot again and read the text on the screen really carefully at each stage.
[10:29] <ctfish> Checie_: any luck
[10:29] <soothsay> How can I fetch .debs without installing the package?
[10:29] <ravi> gah, it's probably just a bit different on Ubuntu
[10:29] <Sentinel> Wiki admin around? please qry me!
[10:29] <Oswy> Just text?
[10:29] <Flannel> soothsay: -d option
[10:29] <Oswy> Should I try that?
[10:29] <ravi> guys, Text mode installer for the boot CD, what's the input to the prompt?
[10:29] <yknott> soothsay: apt-get install packageiwant -d
[10:29] <ravi> yeah, try that
[10:29] <Oswy> k
[10:29] <Flannel> ravi: what?
[10:29] <soundray> soothsay: apt-get -d install packagename (man apt-get for further info)
[10:30] <Oswy> Seems to work.
[10:30] <foutrelis> ravi: I just use the alternate cd
[10:30] <Oswy> What now?
[10:30] <soothsay> Flannel, yknott, soundray: Thanks. Geez, I must be blind, I went over the man page 3 times.
[10:30] <jared__> ?
[10:30] <sheri_rao> Berzerke1, u can install ubuntu without having windows disturbed use ubuntu exe setup https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype
[10:30] <babyju> folks...I have 6.10 installed on a laptop and sound fails after I resume from sleep or hibernate...my only option is to reboot. Anyone has an idea how to fix or restore sound without reboot. thx
[10:30] <Oswy> "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)"
[10:30] <beg1689> can somone help me... i cant get my wireless internet to work. I tried using network-admin and ive tryed manually changing /etc/network/interfaces to get it to work, it USED to work, abot a week ago. i get assigned an IP using dhcp fromt he router, but i have no connection, i cannot even ping the router.  The only result i get from trying to ping is "Operation not permitted".  The wired and wireless devices no longer show up in NetworkManage
[10:30] <Oswy> Is that meaningful?
[10:30] <ravi> holy crap
[10:30] <ravi> oswy, you have a much bigger problem on your hand
[10:31] <ravi> may be a corrupt CD
[10:31] <Oswy> Haha.
[10:31] <Oswy> Really?
[10:31] <Oswy> Hmm.
[10:31] <ravi> yeah
[10:31] <ompaul> Sentinel, if you want to edit it work away if there is an problem msg me and I will seeh what I can do to help
[10:31] <Nameeater> jared__: do you want to flash and dreamweaver icons?
[10:31] <Oswy> I checked it for defects twice.
[10:31] <Oswy> Should I try re-burning the ISO?
[10:31] <ravi> well, in that case - hold on
[10:31] <Oswy> k
[10:31] <soundray> babyju: in /etc/default/acpi-support you can list your sound driver module so it's unloaded on suspend and reloaded on resume.
[10:31] <ravi> anyone willing to jump in here? he's having a kernel panic on a checked CD
[10:31] <Oswy> Haha.
[10:31] <jared__> yeah.
[10:31] <ravi> thx, I have to leave
[10:31] <Berzerke1> is there a way to use that with an existing ISO?
[10:31] <SheaTara> Where is that magic sources.list-maker (and does it still work on Dapper?)
[10:32] <Nameeater> jared__: install the icoutils package, it can extract icons from .exe files
[10:32] <jared__> I'm trying to add them to the menu but I can't find the icons that are normally there on my windows partition
[10:32] <Flannel> !easysource | SheaTara
[10:32] <ubotu> SheaTara: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:32] <jared__> who do I do that exactly?
[10:32] <SheaTara> Flannel: thanks
[10:32] <Flannel> jared__: where are they on windows?
[10:32] <Oswy> Anyone?
[10:33] <Nameeater> jared__: at a terminal window type sudo apt-get install icoutils
[10:33] <jared__> the funny thing is I don't quite know. They are usually in the main folder of the program I think...
[10:33] <Oswy> Kernel panic, what do I do?
[10:33] <jared__> ok
[10:33] <sheri_rao> Berzerke1, do u has ubuntu installed on ur mechine
[10:33] <Flannel> jared__: ~/.wine/drive_c/ is your C drive, they'll be whereever they are on win
[10:33] <jared__> ok
[10:33] <Berzerke1> no
[10:33] <jared__> I'll try the icoutils first since I already looked in the drive_c folder
[10:33] <babyju> soundray, how can I tell which driver I use? lsmod will tell me all that are loaded if I run it after a reboot but I want to be certain I get the right one. Any ideas?
[10:34] <jared__> how exactly do I use icoutils?
[10:34] <jared__> I've already installed it
[10:34] <Oswy> Checked the CD, getting a kernel panic; should I just try reburning the ISO?
[10:34] <Innatech> Oswy: have you seen this: http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2005/01/msg00084.html
[10:34] <Oswy> No.
[10:34] <Oswy> Checking now.
[10:34] <ailean> guys, I would like to convert my Kubuntu install back to a normal Ubuntu one.  How can I do that without removing the ability to run programs designed for KDE?  How can I do it in such a way that Ubuntu appears on the boot screen and welcome screens?
[10:35] <soundray> babyju: lsmod | grep snd  -- add them all. No harm in being inclusive.
[10:35] <jared__> what do I use to extract icons from the exe with icoutils?
[10:35] <jared__> (command)
[10:36] <Oswy> Innatech, I don't get what that link is for.
[10:36] <Oswy> I'm a total Linux noob, sorry.
[10:36] <Nameeater> jared__: do you know how to move folders in a terminal window?
[10:36] <babyju> thanks
[10:36] <jared__> not exactly.
[10:36] <Nameeater> ah
[10:36] <Berzerke1> any way to use the windows installer with an already downloaded ISO?
[10:36] <jared__> like change directory?
[10:36] <Oswy> In any case, I just downloaded the ISO from the site, didn't compile anything myself.
[10:36] <mcfaddin> i there, i am totally new to ubuntu, can someone give me a hand to figure out how to use some wine stuff?
[10:36] <Nameeater> jared__: yes
[10:36] <jared__> oh
[10:36] <soundray> babyju: although it might be enough if you find the actual driver and use that. It's one of those that are listed without dependent modules
[10:36] <jared__> yeah I know that
[10:36] <Nameeater> 'cd'
[10:36] <Nameeater> cool ok
[10:36] <jesusphreak> is there any easy way to single boot Ubuntu on a Macbook?
[10:36] <Innatech> It gives some options you can pass to the kernel at boot time for dealing with cranky HW. But yeah, if its the standard ISO from Canonical it should be OK.
[10:36] <jesusphreak> I don't want OS X
[10:37] <Oswy> Screw it, I'll try reformatting the disk.
[10:37] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/wine
[10:37] <Nameeater> change directory into ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[10:37] <soundray> jesusphreak: once you've installed ubuntu, you can format the Mac partitions.
[10:37] <jared__> then what?
[10:37] <Nameeater> dont know if you know about Tab complete, but hit it part way through a folder and it should autocomplete it
[10:37] <ctfish> Checie_: did it work?
[10:38] <Pollywog> isn't OS X a lot like Linux?
[10:38] <soundray> jesusphreak: I'd recommend against it though -- keep a minimal OS X around for emergencies.
[10:38] <preaction> OS X is BSD
[10:38] <jesusphreak> soundray: I've got a problem to where the Ubuntu Live CD won't boot up anymore
[10:38] <jesusphreak> it booted once but since then it just hangs
[10:38] <Nameeater> jared__: change into the Macromedia folder, I'm not sure what its called in program files
[10:38] <jared__> I'm in the folder with the .exe which runs the program alraedy
[10:38] <jared__> *already
[10:38] <Berzerke1> why is the "Install ubuntu to a partition created in free space" greyed out?
[10:39] <jared__> do i do icoutils thent he exe file?
[10:39] <soundray> jesusphreak: I can't comment on that
[10:39] <LjL> Berzerke1: because there's no free space? :P
[10:39] <mcfaddin> i am running a program in wine called Vag-Com, it's for diagnostics and programing for car ecu's.   i can load the program fine, but i have a usb connection that goes to the car.  it has a key embedded in it, and the program needs that key to do the work.   in windows i would just manage the new device and load the driver, but i don't know how to make that all work here with ubuntu and wine
[10:39] <jesusphreak> okay np
[10:39] <Nameeater> oh, ok :x, type wrestool -x exefilename.exe
[10:39] <Berzerke1> The installer doesn't partition allocations for you?
[10:39] <jared__> ok
[10:39] <jared__> whoa!
[10:40] <Pollywog> ecu is emmisions control unit?
[10:40] <Nameeater> jared__: ?
[10:40] <jared__> it just gave a bunch of "don't know how to extract resource"
[10:40] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, did u check if u application work in wine website appdatabase
[10:40] <jared__> then it game some crazy letters...
[10:40] <Nameeater> :\
[10:40] <mcfaddin> nope, engine control unit
[10:40] <Pollywog> oic
[10:40] <jared__> its all like ???( 7;
[10:40] <jared__> lol
[10:40] <mcfaddin> no, i didn't check it out, how do i do that?
[10:40] <Berzerke1> what file system does Ubuntu use?
[10:40] <ardchoille> jared__: Please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:41] <SheaTara> what's the easiest way to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[10:41] <foutrelis> Berzerke1: ext3 is a common one
[10:41] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, go and check status of ur application here http://appdb.winehq.org/ must every app work with wine?
[10:41] <soundray> Berzerke1: ext3 by default. It can use others.
[10:41] <jared__> err how is it offtopic? it is help getting icons to add them to my ubuntu menu
[10:41] <jared__> thats just explaining what iI got in the terminal
[10:41] <Nameeater> jared__: have msn/aim?
[10:41] <soundray> ubotu, tell SheaTara about upgrade
[10:41] <Berzerke1> alright
[10:41] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, check here on wine website http://appdb.winehq.org/
[10:41] <jared__> yeah I got msn
[10:41] <SheaTara> soundray: thanks
[10:42] <jared__> why?
[10:42] <shafto> !nvidia | shafto
[10:42] <shafto> !nvidia
[10:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:42] <Nameeater> did you get my /msg ? :\
[10:43] <cables> shafto, if you want to test Ubotu, please PM it.
[10:43] <shafto> hehe i thought id be clever and try aim it at myself went wrong though :(
[10:44] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, seems ur app doesnt not exist in wine app database , u better try at ur own now , wine app is user driven database u can submit this problem this is how u can help wine work for u
[10:44] <jared__> no i didn
[10:44] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, which wine version u have? ubuntu repo offer old wine version u need to add xtra repos
[10:45] <shafto> How do i edit the file which containt screen resoltions to stop it from opening it 1024x768?
[10:45] <Berzerke1> I made free space
[10:45] <Nameeater> add me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:45] <Berzerke1> and it's still greyed out
[10:45] <LordLimecat> yo, anyone in here know how to make videos of the deskktop?
[10:45] <stiv2k> help, i just installed cupsys, and when trying to add a printer, i select the driver and it asks for a username and password, what user/pass do i give it?
[10:45] <LordLimecat> what program would i use?
[10:45] <beg1689>  use a camera
[10:45] <vyns> hello
[10:45] <LordLimecat> beg1689: i dont have one, and thats not a very elegant solution
[10:45] <shafto> How do i edit the file which contains screen resolutions to stop it from opening it 1024x768?**
[10:46] <LordLimecat> it shouldnt be THAT hard to capture video output
[10:46] <sheri_rao> shafto, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:46] <beg1689> dunno, try google
[10:46] <LordLimecat> i have -_-
[10:46] <LordLimecat> thats why im here
[10:46] <beg1689> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Record_your_desktop
[10:46] <sheri_rao> shafto, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:47] <l90bpm> if terminal is automatic enough for me..  I shouldn't need automatix should I?
[10:47] <cables> Has anyone used VirtualBox in here?
[10:47] <Flannel> l90bpm: stay far away from automatix.
[10:47] <l90bpm> lol.. ok
[10:47] <shane634> Flannel, why?
[10:47] <cables> l90bpm, you don't wanna use automatix.
[10:47] <cables> shane634, hi there.
[10:47] <OuZo> has anybody used gnome planner?
[10:48] <shane634> cables, hey
[10:48] <cables> shane634, automatix tends to kill Ubuntu in bad ways, especially when you want to upgrade to the latest version.
[10:48] <l90bpm> anything else I should know? I'm adding a few things to my newly updated  6.10
[10:48] <cables> shane634, latest version of Ubuntu I mean
[10:48] <shane634> cables, hmm i have used it with no problems lol
[10:48] <l90bpm> like any warnings before I procede to installing beryl?
[10:48] <shane634> cables, ok i don't use fiesty yet
[10:48] <cables> shane634, have you upgraded to a later Ubuntu release automatically?
[10:48] <l90bpm> nividia card by the way
[10:48] <TheAppleSeed> getting qoq to work with wine is very easy :D
[10:49] <TheAppleSeed> wow*
[10:49] <cefx> !fxp
[10:49] <l90bpm> nvidia*
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fxp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <cables> shane634, well you're not GONNA use feisty without a clean install.
[10:49] <cefx> !ftp
[10:49] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:49] <_Jaak_> what is wrong with the wine 0.9.33 update?
[10:49] <cefx> !FTPd
[10:49] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:49] <shane634> cables, i went from dapper to edgy online update
[10:49] <cefx> !KcmPureftpd
[10:49] <cables> cefx, if you're using Ubotu to get info for yourself, please use /msg ubotu
[10:49] <ubotu> kcmpureftpd: KControl module for easily setting up pure-ftpd. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 250 kB, installed size 956 kB
[10:49] <shafto> sheri_rao, Once i finsihed editing how do i save it?
[10:49] <TheAppleSeed> getting wow to work with wine and get more than 5FPS
[10:49] <l90bpm> I did too cable..  it takes a while
[10:49] <shafto> sheri_rao, ctrl+s dont work
[10:49] <TheAppleSeed> lol.. that cant be done
[10:49] <foutrelis> cefx: If you want to investigate ubotu pm it :)
[10:49] <l90bpm> don't think it froze up or anything.. some of the updates take forever
[10:50] <l90bpm> well not from updates
[10:50] <cables> shane634, l90bpm, didn't work for me, automatix killed stuff. I guess you just avoided the parts of automatix that have that effect :)
[10:50] <sheri_rao> shafto, use this command with GEDIT text editor , sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:50] <cefx> Okay sorry
[10:50] <shane634> cables, yeah maybe i got lucky
[10:50] <ubuntuEdgy> can any one help i have an annoying issue http://pastebin.ca/400745
[10:50] <mkquist> anyone help w/grub goes to 'grub loading' and seems to get stuck
[10:51] <cables> ubuntuEdgy, maybe you should check in #mythtv also
[10:51] <cables> ubuntuEdgy, never mind, that's not a user channel
[10:51] <ubuntuEdgy> cables:i will but its not a mythtv issue
[10:51] <TheAppleSeed> has anyone "expertise" on wine and wow? :l
[10:51] <ubuntuEdgy> ok
[10:52] <cables> ubuntuEdgy, okay, but don't go there. Go to #mythtv-users if you want support with that.
[10:52] <shane634> TheAppleSeed, lots of posts on that on the forums
[10:52] <sheri_rao> TheAppleSeed, put ur question on wine
[10:52] <LordLimecat> beg1689: thanks, ill try xvidcap
[10:52] <cables> ubuntuEdgy, it may help to tell everyone your problem instead of just posting a pastebin link...
[10:52] <l90bpm> is cedega like wine for games only?
[10:52] <beg1689> good luck, that was just the first result of a google search
[10:52] <TheAppleSeed> i know shane.. i read the all :( but they all have the same problem, and no answers lol
[10:52] <Innatech> mkquist: You might want to have a look here and see if it helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1439496
[10:52] <cables> l90bpm, I don't think it's games *only*, but it is enhanced for games. Not entirely sure about that though.
[10:53] <ubuntuEdgy> cables:i dont knwo what to say lol
[10:53] <shane634> TheAppleSeed, specific problem?
[10:53] <arrenlex> l90bpm: cedega is a proprietary fork of wine specialised to run games.
[10:53] <l90bpm> I see
[10:53] <cables> ubuntuEdgy, well mention that MythTV won't start and you're getting a graphics error.
[10:53] <TheAppleSeed> i can run the game but i cant get more than 5 fps v.v
[10:53] <arrenlex> TheAppleSeed: Do you have 3D acceleration?
[10:53] <l90bpm> I don't play too many games anyhow.. just read a lil about it earlier and I was curious
[10:53] <TheAppleSeed> yeap
[10:53] <_Jaak_> what is wrong with the wine 0.9.33 update? i get error libgphoto2-2 (>=2.3.0) but 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 is installed
[10:54] <waxyfresh> cables: i trust and love automatix
[10:54] <waxyfresh> cables: it does have a tendency to break stuff
[10:54] <waxyfresh> anyone been able to get zork nemisis to work with wine
[10:54] <l90bpm> trying to familiarize myself to this alien world
[10:54] <mkquist> innatech - thnx ill check it out
[10:54] <sheri_rao> _Jaak_, make sure u have all dependencies cleared
[10:54] <waxyfresh> anyone been able to get zork nemisis to work with wine
[10:54] <mcfaddin> sheri_rao>  i think that i have the original wine that i loaded from the applications program.  how can i add extra repos?
[10:54] <_Jaak_> sheryi_rao, euuh?
[10:54] <shane634> TheAppleSeed, what vid card?
[10:54] <crdlb> waxyfresh, I've tried ZGI and it wouldn't work
[10:55] <arrenlex> _Jaak_: 0.9.33 isn't in the repositories. What are you talking about?
[10:55] <TheAppleSeed> you can see my post too, "NoMoreWindoze" is the user, its the biig post
[10:55] <TheAppleSeed> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=312482&page=24
[10:55] <slavik> I compiled my wine ... because they haven't commited the mouse patch yet :(
[10:55] <kristoffer> anyone who want to help me with my ktorrent? i get this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10952/
[10:55] <heat``> windoze is such a cool way to say windows.
[10:55] <TheAppleSeed> xD
[10:55] <arrenlex> heat``: ...no, it isn't. o_O
[10:55] <heat``> exactly
[10:56] <LadyNikon> heat``: i prefer winblows
[10:56] <TheAppleSeed> lol
[10:56] <heat``> oh thats real cool too.
[10:56] <_Jaak_> arrenlex, well it is here...
[10:56] <arrenlex> ...oh, I forgot, I removed sarcasm-detector last time I upgraded. Sorry.
[10:56] <slavik> microslop wrote winblows
[10:56] <heat``> yikes
[10:56] <waxyfresh> crdlb: zgi?is that a dif version of zork?
[10:56] <shaigar> i prefer "that wonderful operating system that made computers more commonplace, thus allowing nix OS's to become stronger"
[10:57] <arrenlex> !windows
[10:57] <arrenlex> :)
[10:57] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:57] <shaigar> true it doesnt work, doesnt mean it didnt contribute in a big way
[10:57] <slavik> shaigar: you mean vista?
[10:57] <l90bpm> aptitude get in edgy right?
[10:57] <crdlb> waxyfresh, yes Zork: Grand Inquisitor, released right after Nemesis
[10:57] <shaigar> no windows as a whole
[10:57] <kristoffer> Guys?:) someones good at kTorrent?
[10:57] <arrenlex> I like dpkg's !windows more: (15:57:16) dpkg: PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work.
[10:57] <shane634> TheAppleSeed, sorry i can't help with wine too much
[10:57] <l90bpm> lmao
[10:57] <TheAppleSeed> :((
[10:57] <slavik> arrenlex: ROFL, where is that?
[10:57] <heat``> but..
[10:57] <heat``> airconditioners still work if you open windows
[10:58] <heat``> :|
[10:58] <arrenlex> slavik: #debian. dpkg is their bot. He owns ubotu... not as helpful, but hilarious.
[10:58] <arrenlex> slavik: Ask him about the meaning of life and things :)
[10:58] <slavik> heh
[10:58] <LordLimecat> if he says 42...
[10:58] <LordLimecat> -_-
[10:59] <heat``> if he says 42 i will laugh so hard because of that jokes freshness.
[10:59] <TheAppleSeed> wow is the last thing i cant do on ubuntu >.< now i have to keep switching :l
[10:59] <ravi> anyone in here know what's wrong when I have a high RX error count in my ifconfig
[10:59] <ravi> ?
[10:59] <kristoffer> SOmeony who wants to help me with KTorrent?
[10:59] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then add this # Repository for wine
[10:59] <sheri_rao> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[10:59] <sheri_rao> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[10:59] <clearzen>  ravi: are you connected to a hub?
[10:59] <arrenlex> kristoffer: What's the problem/
[10:59] <shane634> TheAppleSeed, there is a thread on the board about boosting fps in wine search for it
[11:00] <Oswy> OK, there must be something wrong with the download.
[11:00] <Oswy> I re-burned the ISO, and I'm still having a kernel panic.
[11:00] <Oswy> :/
[11:00] <kristoffer> arrenlex, thank god..:) I can't download. i dont no why but i get this message in the terminal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10952/
[11:00] <Oswy> Even thhough the md5sums checked out.
[11:00] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, did u add wine repo
[11:00] <Innatech> oswy: bizzare.
[11:00] <Oswy> Anything else I can try?
[11:00] <ravi> hah, still going huh Oswy
[11:00] <Oswy> Yeah.
[11:00] <ravi> that's one crazy problem you have there
[11:00] <Oswy> Now I've wasted TWO CD-Rs. :D :D :D
[11:00] <Oswy> Could it be my computer?
[11:00] <mcfaddin> no, i didn't, but i just found out that wine does not support USB
[11:00] <Innatech> Oswy: Well.....I think you can net install Ubuntu.
[11:01] <cefx> Does anyone know of a GUI ftp program with fxp abilities for KDE?
[11:01] <Oswy> What?/How?
[11:01] <kristoffer> arrenlex: in KTorrent the status is stalled and tracker status is invalid response
[11:01] <cefx> kcmpureftpd isn't listed anywhere...and can't find it
[11:01] <Oswy> Oh.
[11:01] <Oswy> ic
[11:01] <shane634> Oswy, just made coasters is all
[11:01] <Oswy> How do I do that?
[11:01] <Oswy> Hahaha.
[11:01] <preVail> cefx, even though it is for gnome gftp is the best that i have found
[11:01] <arrenlex> kristoffer: I've never seen that, sorry.
[11:01] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, r u  trying to install window base USB driver through wine?
[11:01] <mcfaddin> so i guess the only thing i can do is to run XP instead of ubuntu.
[11:01] <mcfaddin> yeah, i am
[11:01] <ravi> bah, I hate ubuntu's network install
[11:01] <cefx> preVail: can it fxp?
[11:01] <kramer3d> whats that thing called where it installs all the stuff for u ? autonomix?
[11:02] <ljl> !automatix | kramer3d
[11:02] <ubotu> kramer3d: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:02] <kristoffer> arrenlex, but damn..:) I really need help;)
[11:02] <ravi> automatix
[11:02] <preVail> cefx yes
[11:02] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, did ubuntu not detect ur USB drive?
[11:02] <Innatech> Oswy: Links incoming! Somewhat outdated, but should be a decent start.
[11:02] <Oswy> So any other options?
[11:02] <kramer3d> thanks
[11:02] <kramer3d> XD
[11:02] <Oswy> Hmm.
[11:02] <Oswy> k
[11:02] <trev_> i can't login with gaim or make contact with login.oscar.com, can anyone help me?
[11:02] <surge> I'm having trouble with getting mod_userdir working, I goto the url with sitename.com/~site4 and it goes to the directory of /home/sitename/public_html/site4 instead of /home/site4/public_html
[11:02] <Oswy> Outdated=what?
[11:02] <IndyGunFreak> !automatix
[11:02] <arrenlex> ljl: DUDE! You're not wearing caps! Put those back on, aaaugh >__<
[11:02] <l90bpm> you don't need it
[11:02] <ravi> yeah, just noticed the high RX error count, have more than 38603 errors. what could be wrong, how do I fix it?
[11:02] <Oswy> not 6.10?
[11:02] <surge> I'm stumped on how to fix it.
[11:02] <l90bpm> how hard is it to copy and paste?
[11:02] <preVail> cefx, you may want to try kasablanca as well although i prefer gftp
[11:02] <kramer3d> O_O
[11:02] <kramer3d> automatix breaks system??!?!
[11:02] <kramer3d> what do people recomend?
[11:02] <ravi> what?
[11:03] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, did ubuntu not detect ur USB drive?
[11:03] <shane634> kramer3d, it never broke mine
[11:03] <IndyGunFreak> kramer3d: not usually, but folks here swear it does
[11:03] <arrenlex> kramer3d: Every once in a while. Yep.
[11:03] <LjL> kramer3d: yes. doing things the proper way, i.e. through APT
[11:03] <ravi> kramer3d, are you high?
[11:03] <SheaTara> is it normal for update-manager to remove about 101 packages?
[11:03] <LjL> !software > kramer3d    (kramer3d, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:03] <IndyGunFreak> shane634: mine either
[11:03] <mcfaddin> no.  when i go into the device manager it shows that the cable is connected, and it tells me that it's for the program i want to use it in, but i have no way to make the Vag Com program recognize that there is anything connected
[11:03] <SheaTara> -- for upgrading from dapper to edgy
[11:03] <ravi> LjL, Automatix == through APT for newbs
[11:03] <Innatech> Oswy:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29555       http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-797.html     http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/InstallFromKnoppixHowto
[11:03] <Oswy> k
[11:03] <kramer3d> ravi: what?!
[11:03] <Oswy> Thanks.
[11:03] <waxyfresh> whats a good key logger?
[11:03] <sethk> ravi, what percentage of packets have errors?  how do you know that number is high?
[11:03] <LjL> kramer3d: debian has gone a long way to make installation of software easy, and ubuntu inherits all of that. why create shaky scripts to do the same thing?
[11:03] <shane634> automatix is n the repos
[11:03] <ravi> oh crap, sorry
[11:04] <IdleOne> ravi, automatix is bad and NOT in the repos
[11:04] <SheaTara> waxyfresh: I don't believe there is one, but why would you need it?
[11:04] <IndyGunFreak> LjL: i guess i've just not experienced the "shakiness"
[11:04] <kramer3d> cause if there's an even easier way, then why not :D
[11:04] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, just connect usb flash drive ubuntu should detect it u wud c usb drive on ur desktop icon
[11:04] <waxyfresh> <-----loves automatix
[11:04] <ravi> oh I know, I'm sorry for being politically incorrect
[11:04] <LjL> IndyGunFreak: see !worksforme...
[11:04] <clearzen> ravi: are you connected to a hub?
[11:04] <IndyGunFreak> LjL: i know, i know...lol
[11:04] <Oswy> What?
[11:04] <Oswy> I need floppies for this?
[11:04] <mcfaddin> you see, the USB device has the software key in it.  windows would typically use the driver (which needs to be installed) to read the software key in the FOB of the USB
[11:04] <ravi> clearzen: to a router
[11:04] <l90bpm> it comes packaged in mandriva one doesn't it?
[11:04] <kramer3d> grr...
[11:05] <mcfaddin> i have tried to just plug it in many times, but nothing comes up
[11:05] <clearzen> ravi: how many computers are connected to the same router?
[11:05] <ravi> Oswy: network install for Ubuntu is archaic, they really need to grow up the network install part of ubuntu
[11:05] <surge6> Anyone have any experiance with mod_userdir under apache2?
[11:05] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, do this command in terminal lsusb
[11:05] <Oswy> Gah.
[11:05] <shane634> IdleOne, funny it is in my synaptic
[11:05] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, lsusb
[11:05] <Innatech> Oswy: yeah.
[11:05] <ravi> clearzen: 3 wired, 5 wireless
[11:05] <Oswy> Should I try it anyway?
[11:05] <moot_> I need help uninstalling Java
[11:05] <Oswy> I don't even think I have floppies anymore.
[11:05] <ravi> probably more like 2 or 3 now wireless
[11:05] <Innatech> Oswy: Here, try this. It's more detailed and updated for breezy.
[11:06] <IdleOne> shane634, because you have added the repository but it is not a ubuntu repo and not supported
[11:06] <Innatech> oswy: http://mywheel.net/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/
[11:06] <LjL> moot_: how did you install it?
[11:06] <mcfaddin> i have the drivers that have been copied and pasted into wine
[11:06] <Oswy> k cool
[11:06] <shane634> IdleOne, ok thanks
[11:06] <mcfaddin> ok, it says that it's a Bus device
[11:06] <Oswy> This is 6.10?
[11:06] <clearzen> ravi: have you thought of segmenting your network so they are not all on the same node?
[11:06] <mcfaddin> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0403:fa24 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd
[11:06] <mcfaddin> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[11:06] <ravi> clearzen: you mean like on different subnets?
[11:06] <clearzen> ravi: yeah
[11:06] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, driver wont work through wine , use this command and tell me lsusb
[11:06] <kramer3d> how do I install flash for ubuntu
[11:06] <arrenlex> !flash | kramer3d
[11:06] <ubotu> kramer3d: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:06] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[11:07] <IdleOne> shane634, I am curious to see your /etc/apt/sources.list could you pastebin it
[11:07] <clearzen> ravi: change the subnet for the wireless
[11:07] <ravi> clearzen: not that high throughput of a network, just used at home
[11:07] <erichj> penguin.swf is for linux
[11:07] <Oswy> Hmm.
[11:07] <erichj> get it at adobe.com
[11:07] <mcfaddin> should i use this command, and THEN try using the program?
[11:07] <Oswy> So what do I do with this?
[11:07] <ravi> clearzen, why would that make my issues with errors better?
[11:07] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, lsusb
[11:07] <clearzen> ravi: it can still cause network slowdowns
[11:07] <shane634> IdleOne,  i know nothing of irc or pastebin lol only on here a week
[11:07] <Oswy> Is a server already set up?
[11:07] <clearzen> ravi: I believe it would
[11:07] <IdleOne> !pastebin | shane634
[11:07] <ubotu> shane634: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:07] <mcfaddin> ok, this is what i got:
[11:07] <mcfaddin> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0403:fa24 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd
[11:07] <mcfaddin> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[11:08] <Innatech> Oswy: You don't want to do it exactly the way he describes. Check the link at the bottom too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[11:08] <Oswy> k
[11:08] <ravi> clearzen: ok... but I've never had problems in the past and I have done plenty of transfers!
[11:08] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, this command wud help u c if ur usb drive really mounted /detected
[11:08] <shane634> ubotu, thanks
[11:08] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:08] <l90bpm> can't get flash installed for some reason?  now I won't be able to see all those ads:(
[11:08] <mcfaddin> ok, so it does detect it
[11:08] <ravi> clearzen: by plenty I mean terrabytes and terrabytes worth
[11:08] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, is usb pluged in?
[11:08] <mcfaddin> yep
[11:08] <shane634> ubotu, well a friendly one lol
[11:08] <clearzen> ravi: I could be wrong. But it did help me at my home as well.
[11:08] <erichj> FLASH: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[11:08] <Oswy> Ugh.
[11:08] <erichj> for linux
[11:08] <Oswy> I have NO IDEA what to do with this.
[11:08] <Oswy> ><
[11:09] <ravi> clearzen: ok, I'll try that but do you think it could be something more physical like the wire?
[11:09] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, it does not , u better better use other socket change it physically
[11:09] <Oswy> Do I need to set up a server, or is there already one set up?
[11:09] <ravi> clearzen: or would that cause problems in both Rx and Tx transmissions?
[11:09] <Innatech> Oswy: you'll need a DHCP server to give you machine an IP. Your router will be running one. You should be fine from there. Read through the blog entry, but follow the instructions in the linked Ubuntu community page.
[11:09] <slavik> person with the 5700 nvidia card and wow not going above 5fps ... you need better ahrdware or lower gfx settings :P
[11:09] <ravi> Oswy, I wish I could just mail you your computer with Ubuntu beautifully installed :(
[11:10] <DM|> Can anyone help me with Samba?
[11:10] <Oswy> Hmm.
[11:10] <Yeti_69> !fr
[11:10] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:10] <Oswy> I have a router, yeah.
[11:10] <ravi> you've spent a whole lot of time on this issue
[11:10] <Oswy> :/
[11:10] <mcfaddin> if you want more info on what i am plugging in, go to http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/usb/usb-config.html
[11:10] <Oswy> So I can transfer it from my computer to the same computer?
[11:10] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0403:fa24 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd this mesg mean usb drive is detected
[11:10] <l90bpm> erichj..  tried that.. unable to locate a webplayer that matches my platform and browser
[11:11] <erichj> what browser?
[11:11] <l90bpm> the fox
[11:11] <clearzen> ravi: if you haven't had problems before I would check it...but I would expect to see problems with both Rx and Tx if it was the cable
[11:11] <Innatech> oswy: oh. No, those instructions assume you have another computer handy you can connect to with TFTP.
[11:11] <shane634> IdleOne, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10953/
[11:11] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, open file browser and u can get into this drive wats a big deal?
[11:11] <Oswy> I'm running XP now; this seems to be for Linux.
[11:11] <Oswy> Oh.
[11:11] <erichj> want me to just send you the archive for flash?
[11:11] <Oswy> Hmm.
[11:11] <shane634> i hope i did it right lol
[11:11] <yoink> Hi, does anyone here use udev rules to fire events on usb plugin?
[11:11] <l90bpm> well I'm installing it on another machine
[11:12] <Innatech> Oswy: just a sec. I'll read through it and see if I can host what you need for a little while. It'll be slow over the net but better than nothing.
[11:12] <Oswy> So I could download it to my laptop and then send it to my PC?
[11:12] <dragonriot> anyone here have any experience with Vyatta OFR as a VMWare appliance?  Figured I'd ask here since it uses Ubuntu as the host for the appliance itself...
[11:12] <Oswy> Oh, cool.
[11:12] <Oswy> Thanks.
[11:12] <PirateHead> I want to add a new syntax highlighting mode to Gedit. Can somebody walk me through it or help me find documentation?
[11:12] <Innatech> Oswy: yes--if you have a laptop, that's idea.
[11:12] <Oswy> k
[11:12] <vox754> PirateHead, what syntax
[11:12] <Oswy> Can I do it over Windows, through cmd prompt or something?
[11:12] <clearzen> ravi: do you have wireshark??
[11:13] <PirateHead> vox754: www.byond.com's "DM" language.
[11:13] <erichj> Pirate: view->highlight mode and select your language
[11:13] <Innatech> Oswy: You can put a TFTP server on your windows laptop (google: solar wind tftp) and then point your server at it to netinstall.
[11:13] <Oswy> k, this download will be about 20 minutes.
[11:13] <PirateHead> erichj: the language I am using is fairly nonstandard and is thus not supported in Gedit by default.
[11:13] <Juz_moi> is there a package search page(s) for ubuntu, lik there is for debian?
[11:13] <l90bpm> firefox's plug in finder can't do it either  (Unknown Plugin application/x-director
[11:13] <vox754> PirateHead, I don't know, but I would be interested to know how to do it. You can try contacting the developers.
[11:14] <l90bpm> wait, heres something...   tar.gz or rpm?
[11:15] <PirateHead> erichj: do you know anything specifically about Gedit configuration?
[11:15] <erichj> not really
[11:15] <Slart> Juz_moi: yes there is.. .I think it's packages.ubuntu.org or something similar
[11:15] <Juz_moi> something like http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
[11:15] <erichj> i use bluefish
[11:15] <IdleOne> shane634, yup you added the repos for automatix. Im surprised you still have a working system. I suggest you uninstall that and and see !easysource
[11:15] <Juz_moi> tnx
[11:15] <Slart> Juz_moi: last time I needed it I googled for it... wasn't that hard to find
[11:15] <clearzen> ravi: Are you still there?
[11:15] <erichj> how is it that people have so much trouble with automatix
[11:15] <shane634> IdleOne, if it aint broke i aint fixin it lol
[11:16] <ravi> zen, you in here?
[11:16] <l90bpm> which to choose? which to choose?  any many mighty moe..   .tar.gz or .rpm?
[11:16] <clearzen> ravi: yeah
[11:16] <Slart> erichj: perhaps because automatix assumes things about your system? or doesn't do everything "by the book".. just guesses
[11:16] <Innatech> Can someone help Oswy with his netinstall when he comes back? I've got to run.
[11:16] <shane634> IdleOne, this system has been running for nearly a year like this
[11:16] <ravi> clearzen: I just noticed another error when grabbing an IP address from the router
[11:16] <slavik> !ru
[11:16] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:16] <IdleOne> shane634, ok cool
[11:17] <Oswy> k, downloading now.
[11:17] <Juz_moi> ah kwel it's a .com
[11:17] <Juz_moi> tnx all
[11:17] <Oswy> 25 minutes or so.
[11:17] <clearzen> ravi: I was going to tell you you may want to run wireshark on your network to get a better idea of what is going wrong
[11:17] <clearzen> ravi: what error
[11:17] <shane634> IdleOne,  perhaps i am a very lucky man lol
[11:17] <l90bpm> anyone?
[11:18] <ravi> clearzen: DHCDISCOVER on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval7 ip length 314 disagrees with bytes received 534. Asccepting packet with data after udp upload.
[11:18] <ravi> sorry for the horrible spelling
[11:18] <ravi> however, it goes on gets itself the ip
[11:18] <IdleOne> shane634, perhaps. I have never had luck with automatix. needed to reinstall Ubuntu twice because of it but if it works for you...
[11:18] <l90bpm> what is the difference between a tar and an rpm???????????????????
[11:19] <MostKnown53> hello if i install the oem version can i install the programs i want
[11:19] <ravi> l90bm, whats the difference between a pile of shit and a neatly organized pile of shit?
[11:19] <l90bpm> lmao
[11:19] <IdleOne> l90bpm, tar is a compression format and rpm is not used by Ubuntu
[11:19] <l90bpm> nothing
[11:19] <shane634> IdleOne, yeah that can happen machines are different after all.
[11:19] <PriceChild> !ohmy | ravi
[11:19] <ubotu> ravi: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:19] <DM|> I have a problem with Samba, im accessing a windows machine from my ubuntu box, and it keeps asking me for username and password... and it shouldnt, the windows PC doesnt have a password.... HELP
[11:19] <l90bpm> i see
[11:19] <ravi> oh, sorry
[11:19] <LjL> *ahum*... ravi, perhaps try other analogies, please?
[11:19] <IdleOne> !ohmy | ravi
[11:19] <X86echo> mmmmmmmmmm
[11:19] <ravi> didn't notice that you were that stringent in here. sorry about that everyone
[11:20] <PriceChild> l90bpm, tar's usually contain source, rpm's are binaries for redhat package management distros
[11:20] <l90bpm> so I can't use tar either?
[11:20] <Innatech> Oswy: ok. I'm afraid I've got to run. Hopefully others here can help you out from here.  However, before you get too far down the rabbit hole, I'd suggest trying to boot Knoppix. It's worth burning it to have it around, and if you can get that up and running you can come at it from that angle.
[11:20] <sheri_rao> l90bpm, rpm is specifically for radhat base distro like deb for dabian, and taz is archive extention
[11:20] <usagent> howdy all, just started with Ubuntu today and have a quick question about the mouse functions
[11:20] <clearzen> ravi: do you know how to run wireshark?
[11:20] <ravi> yse
[11:20] <ravi> clearzen: yes*
[11:20] <X86echo>  whats the difference between a pile of shit and a neatly organized pile of shit? ravi what are you saying man
[11:20] <vox754> !tar
[11:20] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy
[11:20] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:21] <vox754> !rpm
[11:21] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:21] <sheri_rao> l90bpm, use tar if other only option is rpm , provided u r on ubuntu or non-redhat
[11:21] <ravi> rpms can be converted with alien
[11:21] <ravi> sorry for the redundancies
[11:21] <eck> in practice, i have not found alien to work very well
[11:21] <vox754> !info alien
[11:21] <shane634> ravi, yes they can
[11:21] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.64 (edgy), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[11:21] <eck> if you have a tarball you're better off building the source
[11:22] <clearzen> ravi: personally I would use that tool to pinpoint the networking problem. I'll see if I can find what it might be from that error.
[11:22] <ravi> X86echo, "what are you saying man" I am just trying to display my hatred for everything that has to do anything with a yum repository
[11:22] <shane634> eck, what problems with alien did you have?
[11:22] <usagent> Can anyone please tell me if single click is available instead of having to double click on things?
[11:22] <screaming_flower> does anyone have any suggestions for getting a ati 1950 pro video card working under ubuntu without the crappy vesa drivers (i would kinda like some video acceleration)
[11:22] <whta> is the ntfs write support still considered dangerous?
[11:22] <ravi> yes it is usagent, there I have told you.
[11:22] <IdleOne> !ati | screaming_flower
[11:22] <ubotu> screaming_flower: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:23] <X86echo> lol ravi its ok
[11:23] <jron2> is it possible to cache the needed files into memory using the ubuntu livecd so I can burn a cd in a laptop with only one cd drive. (due to having to remove the cd) wasn't sure if this would work
[11:23] <Slart> whta: I wouldn't trust it for serious stuf.. but I think it's supposed to be ok
[11:23] <usagent> ravi: could you tell me how to turn it on?
[11:23] <whta> slart: for simple moving files back and forth you'd say it's ok?
[11:23] <sheri_rao> usagent, tell me ur file browser nautilus go top menu EDIT>Preference
[11:23] <eck> shane634: it might be ok for converting a .tgz to a .deb, but when I tried to convert a .rpm I ended up having to do most of the installation manually
[11:23] <ravi> usagent: not from right here but you can go to preferences of nautilus
[11:23] <l90bpm> sudo aptitude install mozilla-plugin-gnash got it for me
[11:23] <shane634> eck, ok
[11:23] <l90bpm> so nm about the two piles
[11:23] <ravi> gah, sheri got it
[11:24] <ravi> hahah
[11:24] <Slart> whta: I'm not sure.. I haven't tried it.. but I've heard other people say it's ok... I just don't want to tell you it's ok when I haven't tried it myself.. perhaps someone else has
[11:24] <sheri_rao> usagent, in file browser nautilus go top menu EDIT>Preference (behavior)
[11:24] <froydinn> hi there folks, can anybody gimme a good link to help installing and setting up xgl ?
[11:24] <kakume> i'm trying to install ubuntu with the 64-bit alt cd, and my network won't auto or manual configure properly. The net card I'm trying to use is the nforce4 onboard ethernet. is anyone aware of a workaround?
[11:24] <Slart> whta: if I were you I'd create a small partition and try moving files back and forth
[11:24] <froydinn> ive done some that i found but with no luck
[11:24] <IdleOne> !xgl | froy
[11:24] <ubotu> froy: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:25] <IdleOne> !xgl | froydinn
[11:25] <ubotu> froydinn: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:25] <froydinn> !xgl
[11:25] <froydinn> thx
[11:25] <sheri_rao> froydinn, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.29 and http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28ATI.29
[11:25] <DrOnline> !
[11:26] <froydinn> !xgl
[11:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:26] <Vong> Im trying to get my nVidia GS 7900 Go card to work, and running into lots of problems.  can anyone help me out there?
[11:26] <shane634> Vong, you got msn?
[11:26] <l90bpm> is guarddog a good firewall?
[11:26] <bruenig> !firewall
[11:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:27] <Vong> yes shane634
[11:27] <shane634> add shane47143 i will help ya
[11:27] <l90bpm> ok... was just going down the page...  sorry :-$
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> cough, don't tell him about automatix, cough.
[11:27] <froydinn> does anybody know by if the nvidia geforce go 7300 has 3d for the xgl ? when i run the the glxinfo it does not say rendering: YES
[11:27] <bruenig> froydinn, #ubuntu-effects
[11:28] <froydinn> thx
[11:28] <cafuego_> froydinn: it does, provided you're using the closed/non-free nvidia drivers.
[11:29] <froydinn> humn closed non free ...triky .....
[11:29] <froydinn> lol
[11:29] <froydinn> well i a newbie u know i was following some howto that told me to updatethe nvidia-xgl drivers i think
[11:29] <froydinn> wich i did
[11:29] <cafuego_> Not really, just apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[11:29] <cafuego_> And change one word in the X config file.
[11:29] <arooni> how can i get my synaptics touchpad to automatically turn off when i'm typing, and auto turn back on when i'm done typing (after a certain delay etc...)???? (i have a sony laptop)
[11:30] <froydinn> i did the whole thing when i try to run the sessions that has the xgl it asks for the login goes in then comes back to the login again
[11:30] <froydinn> im gonna try cafuego
[11:30] <froydinn> thx
[11:30] <Jaguar> cafugo_: Talking about getting hardware acceleration for an Nvidia card (just joined)?
[11:33] <dthacker> where is sudo's default log?
[11:33] <mkquist> anyone know if installing grub on a very small partition on a 400gig drive might help boot probs on an older pc?
[11:34] <froydinn> hey folks can anybody gimme a hand on finding out if my nvidia geforce go 7300 has the 3d rendering ?
[11:34] <eck> dthacker: i think /var/log/auth
[11:34] <Xteven> hi, has anyone tried encfs ?
[11:34] <cefx> are there any gui ftp daemons?
[11:34] <kakume> i'm trying to install ubuntu with the 64-bit alt cd, and my network won't auto or manual configure properly. The net card I'm trying to use is the nforce4 onboard ethernet. is anyone aware of a workaround?
[11:34] <froydinn> xlginfo gimmes error in rendering
[11:34] <froydinn> :(
[11:35] <eck> a gui daemon?
[11:35] <cafuego_> cefx: For Linux? I doubt it.
[11:35] <eck> that would sort of defeat the point
[11:35] <BryanJK> i just wanted to say UBUNTU RULES
[11:35] <cefx> yeah
[11:35] <cefx> heh
[11:35] <dthacker> eck, /var/log/auth.log.    tnx!!
[11:35] <BryanJK> yes
[11:36] <factotum> yeah, ive had pretty good luck with 6.06 but i still have probs with 6.10
[11:36] <Slart> cefx: perhaps you might rephrase that question.. don't you want a ftp server with a graphical setup application?
[11:36] <Jaguar> !envy | froydinn
[11:36] <ubotu> froydinn: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[11:36] <Slart> cefx: or some kind of gui for configuring it
[11:36] <factotum> !Nvidia
[11:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:36] <cefx> Slart: GUI for configuring it.  GUI for setting it up or running it.
[11:37] <factotum> anyone know an app for adjusting gamma, preferably gtk or with a gui that will add settings to xorg.conf?
[11:37] <kakume> please, can someone help me configuring this network card? otherwise I'll need to switch to gentoo (ick)
[11:37] <l90bpm> where does democracytv hide at on the system?
[11:37] <eck> cefx: i don't think so, but the config file for vsftpd is very easy to understand
[11:37] <factotum> kakume, dont have another nic to use? bummer
[11:37] <l90bpm> I installed it but now I can't find it
[11:38] <Slart> cefx: then there might be sometihng out there... some linux people are picky about what you ask for =).. just ask for a ftpserver with some kind of gui for configuration and start/stop.. you might get better answers that way
[11:38] <factotum> l90bpm, check sound and video menu
[11:38] <arooni> how can i get my synaptics touchpad to automatically turn off when i'm typing, and auto turn back on when i'm done typing (after a certain delay etc...)???? (i have a sony laptop)
[11:38] <l90bpm> must not have installed properly...
[11:38] <kakume> factotum: it's not that I dont have another  NIC lying around, but I'd really like it if the stuff on my motherboard just worked, like it did in 32-bit edgy
[11:38] <eck> cefx: one of the problems is that historically a lot of ftp servers have had big security problems, so you don't want to go with some random ftp daemon that you found with a gui.... and i think the two most widely used ones (proftpd and vsftpd) both lack gui configs
[11:39] <trond> cefx: Install gproftd
[11:39] <spikeyone> quit
[11:39] <cefx> eck: I'm having problems with vsftpd.
[11:39] <cefx> heh
[11:39] <trond> cefx: You can set everything up from there
[11:39] <eck> cefx: with what exactly?
[11:39] <cefx> [R]  550 Permission denied.
[11:39] <cefx> someone uploading/changing dir's
[11:39] <factotum> l90bpm, ah gotcha. I had the same probelm with freebsd with an nforce2, recompiled the kernel
[11:39] <cefx> permissions mostly
[11:40] <factotum> nforce didnt play nice out of the box
[11:40] <L4J> hello
[11:40] <cefx> maybe 022 instead of 077
[11:40] <new_to_ubuntu> hello chanel
[11:40] <cafuego_> cefx: Did you enable uploading in the cfg file?
[11:40] <BryanJK> for a reccomendation, im going to do a dual boot with all my backup on a single NTFS partition
[11:40] <new_to_ubuntu> I have just upgraded to feisty
[11:40] <ompaul> new_to_ubuntu, then you should be in #ubuntu+1
[11:40] <new_to_ubuntu> and I have the main user profile in kubuntu and had another secondary user on ubuntu both on the same computer
[11:40] <mkquist> hey folks - can grub be installed on a fat32 partition?
[11:41] <bruenig> new_to_ubuntu, #ubuntu+1 for feisty help
[11:41] <Jaguar> !enter | new_to_ubuntu
[11:41] <ubotu> new_to_ubuntu: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:41] <BryanJK> blah, so heres the question...  can I access Linux partitions from a windows install?
[11:41] <cefx> yeah i did
[11:41] <cefx> I changed the permissions...
[11:41] <cefx> from 022 to 077
[11:41] <CheshireViking> mkquist, yes it can, I've got a multi boot system with Grub installed on my Win XP Fat32 primary drive
[11:42] <bruenig> BryanJK, with fs-driver.org you can
[11:42] <BryanJK> okay
[11:42] <L4J> I am using Ubuntu Dapper Drake and am very happy with it. I have always used my USB, by simply plugging in the USB Cable and clicking the icon on the desktop. But I recently purchased a new camera that saves the files in ".raw" format.... When I use my windows computer it will allow to run a .exe program and convert the photos... But I cannot figure out a way to convert them using Ubuntu... any help would be greatly appreciated.
[11:42] <mkquist> CheshireViking - thanx
[11:42] <BryanJK> ill check that out, thanks
[11:42] <Heroin01> what is the default password for a fresh mysql install?
[11:42] <mbonnick> hello. i need some help with my display. I just bought an Acer X191W 19" Widescreen but the display is all messed up. There is an overlap at the side that I can't get rid of
[11:42] <eck> Heroin01: iirc there is none
[11:42] <Jaguar> bruenig: Have anything like that for Ext3?
[11:43] <bruenig> !info dcraw | L4J
[11:43] <ubotu> l4j: dcraw: decode raw digital camera images. In component main, is extra. Version 8.38-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 123 kB, installed size 344 kB
[11:43] <bruenig> Jaguar, it works for ext3 and ext2
[11:43] <bruenig> even though I know it says ext2
[11:43] <carpediem> L4J: I think it depends on the camera.  I think raw is different for each camera, as I recall.
[11:43] <BryanJK> okay, and is it possible to access a windows ntfs partition through Linux?
[11:43] <Jaguar> bruenig: Ah, now I see it, I only glanced at the page and saw only Ext2 :)
[11:43] <L4J> So how would I convert the images?
[11:44] <PriceChild> Heroin01, just login as root from localhost, no password
[11:44] <preaction> !ntfs | BryanJK
[11:44] <ubotu> BryanJK: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:44] <bruenig> BryanJK, by default, you can mount and read it. You need ntfs-3g if you want to be able to write
[11:44] <L4J> I have a Philips PT44434... If that helps
[11:44] <bruenig> L4J, dcraw like ubotu said
[11:44] <Heroin01> eck ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[11:44] <BryanJK> okay
[11:45] <BryanJK> and lets say I have 2 partitions on windows which are also ntfs, it can read those also?
[11:46] <bruenig> BryanJK, yeah...........
[11:46] <BryanJK> okay........... im just making sure
[11:46] <bruenig> if it can read one ntfs partition...........
[11:46] <kakume> ooooookayyy, I just solved my problem with the ethernet card on nforce 4
[11:46] <factotum> awsome, gentoo then?
[11:46] <BryanJK> yea
[11:47] <andy101> anyone know how I can get a list of packages that I have installed that aren't dependancies of others packages? I am thinking apt-cache might be able to help but can't figure out how to do it
[11:47] <kakume> it seems that the network card that is plugged in has switched from eth0 on 32-bit to eth1 on 64-bit :/
[11:47] <eck> Heroin01: hmm... maybe you can set it if you run dpkg-reconfigure
[11:47] <eck> just a guess
[11:47] <kakume> wierdness
[11:47] <factotum> hah! of all things!
[11:47] <colbert> how do I make a program that starts in a window, start at a certain place on the screen ??
[11:47] <BryanJK> and a last few things, what would be a wiki/site/document to read up on Linux File systems... like about all the /dev/ ect because im a huge noob at linux
[11:48] <eck> colbert: in gnome? i think you can do this with devilspie
[11:48] <colbert> eck: Yes I am in gnome
[11:48] <bruenig> BryanJK, for linux filesystems, wikipedia will do. If you are talking about how to mount partitions,
[11:48] <colbert> ok how do I set up devilspie ?
[11:48] <bruenig> !ntfs
[11:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:49] <Flannel> bruenig: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html
[11:49] <BryanJK> noob no, like all about it... like where what kinds of files go where, and about how it uses the entire filesystem
[11:49] <comradevik> is it possible to symlink to a usb device
[11:49] <BryanJK> I pretty much know nothing about how it does all its files
[11:49] <peepsalot> does anyone know why Totem can't(and never could) play a damn thing on my computer?
[11:49] <eck> colbert: http://wiki.foosel.net/linux/devilspie
[11:49] <bruenig> ext3 reiser, etc.
[11:49] <eck> !info devilspie
[11:49] <ubotu> devilspie: find windows and perform actions on them. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17.1-1 (edgy), package size 28 kB, installed size 124 kB
[11:49] <bruenig> that is what I was thinking by filesystem
[11:49] <BryanJK> Well, nvm
[11:49] <factotum> peepsalot, the application, or just no sound?
[11:49] <peepsalot> mplayer seems to work, which would suggest that I have the codecs installed.
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy
[11:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:50] <mkpaa> anyone else noticed a problem with last 2 ubuntu kernel updates. they fail to recognize a common integrated realtek ethernet adapter. had to start with kernel .15-26 and everything worked fine
[11:50] <Oswy> Alright!
[11:50] <peepsalot> factotum, no sound for sound files, no video for video files, it just doesn't do anything
[11:50] <Oswy> Finally finished.
[11:50] <peepsalot> i'm so sick of it
[11:50] <mlankhorst> oh my god ubuntu r0x0rs the big 111!!! :p
[11:50] <factotum> probably the same reason I could never grab photos off my powershot with 6.10, I'll just never know
[11:50] <smarteeo> how do you change the number of lines that scroll when you move the mousewheel, its driving me crazy
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> mlankhorst: lmao
[11:50] <ThinkingMan> So I'm editing fstab, and I noticed ubuntu is using uuids instead of labels like I'm used to (/dev/sda4 for example), is there an advantage to that, and is it cool to still use /dev/sda4 instead of the uuid?
[11:50] <Oswy> Can anyone help me set up a net install, then, please?
[11:50] <bruenig> !netinstall
[11:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:51] <martian_manhunte> Please, I need some help setting up my Unbuntu XServer for a GeForce FX 5200
[11:51] <eck> ThinkingMan: personally i prefer labels, but they are pretty similar, there isn't a huge advantage either way
[11:51] <Oswy> I have a thingy, but I think the commands are for Linux only, and I'm on XP
[11:51] <Lord_Illidan> !uuid
[11:51] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[11:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How can I disable cpufreq?
[11:51] <peepsalot> i just don't understand why totem is the default player, when it doesn't seem capable of _doing anything_.  Am I the only person with this problem
[11:51] <eck> ThinkingMan: the main reason they are used is in case device names change
[11:51] <Oswy> I had a couple of people here before who were gonna help me, but they left.
[11:51] <Oswy> :/
[11:51] <soothsay> peepsalot: Did you try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:51] <Lord_Illidan> peppsalot: I agree
[11:51] <ThinkingMan> eck: OK, so the short answer is not much and go ahead and use /dev/sda4
[11:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> peepsalot: Get the codecs before you say that :P
[11:52] <eck> yeah, that's fine
[11:52] <ThinkingMan> thanks eck
[11:52] <peepsalot> if i didn't have the codecs, wouldn't mplayer not work either?
[11:52] <Oswy> So anyone know how to do a netinstall over XP?
[11:52] <smarteeo> any ideas anyone?
[11:52] <soothsay> Mplayer uses ffmpeg
[11:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I used to hate totem, but I found it's "decent", though the web plugin is cheesey
[11:52] <smarteeo> how do i change the number of lines my mouse wheel scrolls
[11:52] <andy101> peepsalot: It's the fault of the US governement with their DMCA and Software Patents, there's nought Ubuntu can do
[11:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> you could get gstreamer-0.10-ffmpeg
[11:52] <soothsay> peepsalot: totem uses gstreamer (by default)
[11:52] <Lord_Illidan> I have the codecs, and still....vlc and gxine work better than emacs/totem
[11:53] <soothsay> peepsalot: vs. ffmpeg for Mplayer. They have different backends
[11:53] <soothsay> Lord_Illidan: emacs plays video?
[11:53] <jason_> Hey all, I got a quick question. Have any of you been able to install Wine 0.9.33?
[11:53] <Fredle> emacs can do everything
[11:53] <soothsay> heh
[11:53] <eck> at the end of the day they all use libavcodec :-)
[11:54] <peepsalot> and i could have sworn iu removed this scourge from my hard drive but it somehow it seems to have reared it's head again.
[11:54] <Flannel> Fredle: that's because emacs is an operating system, not a text editor.
[11:54] <Fredle> but I prever vim..
[11:54] <Oswy> Dammit.
[11:54] <ThinkingMan> next quick question how do I get my newly mounted partition to appear in the "places" menu in nautilus?
[11:54] <Fredle> Flannel, emacsos..  but that's just linux with emacs..
[11:54] <ThinkingMan> I'm assuming I add a symlink somewhere....
[11:54] <ThinkingMan> the question is where....
[11:54] <Flannel> ThinkingMan: places menu has anything mounted in /media/ I believe.
[11:54] <Fredle> I see it as a developpers joke.. who uses emacs..
[11:55] <ThinkingMan> hrm....
[11:56] <Fredle> ThinkingMan, it should not be mounted the good old unixfashion way
[11:56] <Berzerke1> Hi
[11:56] <Berzerke1> I'm back
[11:56] <Berzerke1> lol
[11:56] <Berzerke1> I installed it ok
[11:56] <brynk> my bluetooth headset keeps disconnecting, anyone know what i can do about that?
[11:56] <Oswy> Nobody knows how to do a netinstall over XP?
[11:56] <eck> i have things mounted the 'old fashioned' way that show up in places...
[11:56] <Flannel> !install | Oswy
[11:56] <Berzerke1> but it's still giving me the same error when I try to boot it
[11:56] <ubotu> Oswy: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:56] <eck> i have no idea why though
[11:57] <ThinkingMan> Fredle, what do you mean by "it"
[11:57] <fr500> Oswy: there is an entru on the wiki for that, it pretty easy
[11:57] <eck> aha
[11:57] <Flannel> Oswy: The old OS youre installing over doesn't matter
[11:57] <eck> you can drag folders there
[11:57] <Oswy> k
[11:57] <Oswy> Cool.
[11:57] <Fredle> ThinkingMan, your filesystem
[11:57] <linxeh> whats the best divx player for linux that can do upscaling etc ?
[11:57] <Oswy> I just need a router to transfer it, right?
[11:57] <linxeh> vlc doesnt seem to do any interpolation
[11:57] <eck> you need an internet connection, not necessarily a router
[11:57] <IgorSobreira> hey...how can i get all the video plugins...with the mplayer??
[11:57] <Oswy> Right.
[11:57] <Oswy> But don't I need to transfer it from one comp to another?
[11:58] <eck> no, you can just get it off of http/ftp
[11:58] <eck> from a public site i mean
[11:58] <Oswy> Hmm, k.
[11:58] <Fredle> make yourself a proxy :-)
[11:58] <eck> you can do the netinstall using any mirror
[11:58] <ThinkingMan> Fredle, maybe I'm misunderstanding you, what do you mean by good ole unixfashion way?
[11:58] <Alonea> How do I configure my wacom tablet to work correctly with the gimp? It wasn't listed under input devices.
[11:58] <l90bpm> I have an amd sempron but for some reason only the 64 packages install properly??  any ideas?
[11:59] <Fredle> ThinkingMan, wel, time like..  need to mount a filesystem manualy
[11:59] <Fredle> as far as I know most of the distro's out there do that kind a stuff automaticaly
[11:59] <ThinkingMan> Fredle, yeah, I'm adding it to /etc/fstab, is there an issue with that?
[11:59] <Fredle> if it's some removable media
[12:00] <eck> ThinkingMan: i think it might be doing it based on things mounted by lable/uuid... you can drag and drop the mountpoint into the sidebar to have it show up though
[12:00] <linxeh> l90bpm: not all semprons are 64bit
[12:00] <eck> all of my partitions with labels show up there
[12:00] <Fredle> /etc/fstab is still good, for servers. but for desktops (kde.. gnome.. others) there are alternatives now
[12:00] <l90bpm> well no.. mine is not 64 bit.. that's just it