[00:01] <cores> YankDownUnder, shutting off bluetooth and switching from synaptics to libinput xort input driver didn't work, pointer still jumping around
[00:02] <cores> oh well, i'm switching back to 16.04, that seems to work
[00:02] <cores> curiously, the installer for 17.04 seems to work as well.
[00:02] <badcatalex> Great. Now there's nobody to help me use my modem card in Ubuntu 17.04
[00:02] <badcatalex> I might as well leave Linux
[00:03] <Dwarf> Hey guys, how do I disable the installing of suggested pakages?
[00:03] <Dwarf> Why would you want to leave linux, badcatalex?
[00:03] <ILikeUnity7_> Dwarf, you sometimes can't.
[00:03] <Dwarf> I was wondering if there's a config setting and if so, if there's a manpage on it
[00:03] <ILikeUnity7_> badcatalex, use linux.
[00:04] <badcatalex> Because, it is hard to use dial-up for BBSes in Linux/Ubuntu
[00:04] <gogeta> badcatalex, problem seems to bee the driver  has not been updated n forever
[00:04] <Fasort> ubuntu 17 is full of bugs? is that true?
[00:04] <badcatalex> no
[00:04] <ILikeUnity7_> Fasort, tell me. I'm still using 16.10.
[00:04] <Dwarf> ...people still use dial-up?
[00:04] <Dwarf> It's 2017
[00:05] <badcatalex> Conexant a pain in the butt to use under linux
[00:05] <gogeta> badcatalex, i think most usb modems work
[00:05] <ILikeUnity7_> Dial-up is slow. People only use it in very rural areas, as far as I know.
[00:05] <Dwarf> Funny enough apt-config dump ouputs
[00:05] <Dwarf> APT::Install-Recommends "0";
[00:05] <Dwarf> APT::Install-Suggests "0";
[00:05] <badcatalex> What should I do?
[00:05] <badcatalex> Contact them?
[00:05] <Dwarf> I'd call your ISP and tell them they should get their sh*t together and join 2017 with the rest of the world
[00:05] <gogeta> badcatalex, there not going to supporting a 15 year old card lol
[00:06] <gogeta> badcatalex, you can pick up a usb dialup modem i think those work still
[00:06] <ILikeUnity7_> I'm annoyed about Unity being discontinued...
[00:06] <badcatalex> I use Media com. No dial-up. As I said earilier, I want to use it for BBSes
[00:07] <Dwarf> Unity is being discontinued? I thought they only switched the default DE to gnome
[00:07] <Dwarf> I'm quite sure you can still install the unity DE regardless
[00:07] <gogeta> unity is dead
[00:07] <gogeta> no
[00:07] <gogeta> it wil be dpreched
[00:07] <badcatalex> also, I don't have the money for a USB modem
[00:07] <yasgur99> im new to this irc thing. is anyone able to explain how i can tell which information gets sent to you guys and which is just on my screen to see
[00:07] <gogeta> devs fired all that jaz unity is no more
[00:07] <Dwarf> yasgur99: Your client sends a PING periodically to tell the server it's still alive.  I dont think as many people are gonna use ubuntu anymore as they do now
[00:09] <kk4ewt> Fasort,  why not
[00:09] <Dwarf> painful
[00:09] <Dwarf> Unity is pretty awful imo
[00:09] <gogeta> badcatalex, you can try using winmodem drivers
[00:10] <gogeta> badcatalex, it may respond to that
[00:10] <YankDownUnder> Actually, it's not really going to affect Ubuntu very much. "Fanboys" of Unity might not like the statistics.
[00:10] <Dwarf> Gnome is much more streamlined and customizable
[00:10] <badcatalex> gogeta, how?
[00:10] <Fasort> fedora has gnome
[00:10] <Fasort> and other major distros
[00:10] <Fasort> they integrate gnome bettere
[00:10] <ILikeUnity7> Hi, my screen went blank and I had to turn off my computer.
[00:10] <Dwarf> Every distro has gnome
[00:10] <YankDownUnder> It's not really an issue about Gnome or whatever desktop...it's about the underlying system.
[00:10] <Dwarf> Systemd
[00:10] <Fasort> Dwarf, ubuntu will be debian :D
[00:10] <ILikeUnity7> ^
[00:11] <Dwarf> Ubuntu /is/ debian
[00:11] <ILikeUnity7> GNOME should have global menus!
[00:11] <Dwarf> But with different packages
[00:11] <Dwarf> Gnome has global menus!
[00:11] <ILikeUnity7> By the way, Unity 8 was forked into #yunit
[00:11] <badcatalex> gogeta: How do I use winmodem? And what is it?
[00:11] <ILikeUnity7> Global menus with the File Edit View...?
[00:11] <Dwarf> Oh global menus like that
[00:12] <gogeta> badcatalex, oh seem the sites is still alive buddy the linkwwas old
[00:12] <Fasort> linux never had decent DE. the community should learn from windows or macOS. keep one rock solid featured DE.
[00:12] <Dwarf> Like this, ILikeUnity7? https://launchpad.net/maximus
[00:13] <Dwarf> Fasort: You mean, gnome?
[00:13] <ILikeUnity7> Hmm... I'll do some research.
[00:13] <badcatalex> gogeta, what is winmodem?
[00:13] <gogeta> badcatalex, http://www.linuxant.com/alsa-driver/#pre-compiled
[00:14] <YankDownUnder> The point of linux is that there should be NO "primary desktop environment" - none. It's all about "individual choice".
[00:14] <badcatalex> YES!
[00:14] <gogeta> badcatalex, the issue is the patches are relly out of date
[00:14] <ILikeUnity7> YankDownUnder, YES!
[00:15] <badcatalex> also, how do I use the file?
[00:15] <Fasort> YankDownUnder, and useless competition.. *coughs* mate and gnome *gnome*
[00:15] <ricochet00> hello, I'm looking for a strange network issue.  after upgrading to 16.10, I can ping yahoo.com, but can't ping github.com.  In addition, I had to bring up the interface manually (enp6s0) with ifconfig.  Could this be a ipv6 issue?
[00:15] <Dwarf> ILikeUnity7: https://github.com/deadalnix/pixel-saver
[00:15] <Dwarf> ricochet00: Try pinging an IP address instead of a resolving domain
[00:15] <YankDownUnder> ricochet00: Have you checked your DNS settings?
[00:16] <badcatalex> gogeta, also, how do I use the file?
[00:16] <badcatalex> *files
[00:16] <ricochet00> Dwarf: when I ping githubs's ip address, it says Network Unreachable
[00:16] <DF3D2> having a weird issue trying to troubleshoot something, I set a lan client to ping an ubuntu vm that has UFW installed
[00:16] <DF3D2> UFW does not seem to log ANY incoming connections even tho log level is set to high ?
[00:16] <ILikeUnity7> Dwarf, not sure about Pixel Saver, I want the menus to be in the top bar
[00:16] <DF3D2> it should be logging a steady flow of ping requests
[00:16] <DF3D2> the pings are going through
[00:16] <Dwarf> ILikeUnity7: That's what pixel saver does, no?
[00:16] <DF3D2> and I have an allow LAN rule that seems to work
[00:17] <Dwarf> ricochet00: Funny enough, yahoo has a AAAA record, whereas github does not. So it sounds like your IPv4 isn't working and your IPv6 is
[00:18] <cores> dwarf is an object file format
[00:18] <Dwarf> I'm for debugging
[00:19] <ILikeUnity7> I think the internet problem can be fixed with the command in my next message:
[00:19] <ILikeUnity7> sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager.service
[00:19] <ILikeUnity7> I've used it before.
[00:19] <ricochet00> Dwarf, guess my guess was correct.  I configured the interface with 'ifconfig enp6s0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>'
[00:20] <ricochet00> dwarf: I'm not sure what to do
[00:21] <ILikeUnity7> Here's my bash script for fixing problems with wifi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24397459/
[00:21] <ILikeUnity7> Run with sudo
[00:22] <[[thufir]]> how do I install wildfly app server with umake?
[00:23] <ricochet00> Dwarf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24397469/  here's the ifconfig output for the interface
[00:26] <zephyr8965> Anybody in here know how to improve bluetooth headset issues in Ubuntu?  I'm on 17.04 MATE 64-bit and I keep getting crackling sound and about 0.5 - 1.0 seconds latency on sound.
[00:26] <zephyr8965> I had it working nicely earlier with a system reboot, but it seems like the issue built right back up. :(
[00:28] <ricochet00> YankDownUnder: any idea why the interface (dos resolver) would only be using ipv6 (outside the local network)
[00:28] <zephyr8965> Update: Switching to HSP/HFP then back to A2DP seems to get it back on track for a random amount of time (seconds to minutes to hours), but I'm hoping to get it to just stay working well. :(
[00:29] <energizer> I need help with my graphics card.
[00:30] <energizer> Whenever I wake from sleep all my window borders are totally messed up, showing basically rainbow white noise all along them
[00:36] <mattpalermo> energizer: I am certainly no expert on this, but perhaps I can start off by asking what OS you are using and what graphics driver are you using.
[00:39] <energizer> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24397526/
[00:39] <energizer> 16.10
[00:39] <energizer> mattpalermo: ^
[00:39] <DF3D2> you need to install the driver
[00:40] <energizer> DF3D2: what do you mean
[00:40] <brawell> hello
[00:41] <brawell> ok}
[00:44] <ricochet00> anyone?  why would networking.service (journalctl - xb) say: unknown interface enp6s0 ?  I can ifconfig it, and bring it up and down.
[00:44] <energizer> DF3D2: did you mean something by your comment?
[00:45] <DF3D2> yes install the driver lol
[00:45] <energizer> DF3D2: what makes you think its not
[00:45] <energizer> already installed
[00:46] <sage__> hi
[00:46] <Bashing-om> DF3D2: energizer "configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0" A Nvidia driver is installed :)
[00:46] <zephyr8965> x.x Google has failed me....
[00:47] <DF3D2> ah I didn't look close enough
[00:47] <DF3D2> lol
[00:47] <sage__> does anyone else have a thinkpad/
[00:47] <energizer> anyway, what do i do now?
[00:47] <energizer> sage__: yes
[00:48] <sage__> i just got mine and i love it
[00:48] <energizer> good
[00:48] <Bashing-om> energizer: A thought , What is the GUI like when logged in from the guest account ?
[00:49] <energizer> Bashing-om: you mean sleep, wake, switch user to guest?
[00:50] <Bashing-om> energizer: That should work . IF the GUI is good there, then you have a config issue in "your" user space .
[00:51] <energizer> ok will test
[01:04] <thingfish> I'm having an issue where my IRC connection ping timeouts after a period of time, usually about an hour into chatting.  I don't think it's a setting in the client, since I've tried two different clients and I see the same thing happening in both (pidgin and quassel).
[01:04] <thingfish> it's not happening in Windows.
[01:05] <mattrpalermo> thingfish: Damn, that must make getting support on IRC difficult ^^
[01:05] <thingfish> it didn't happen in previous versions of Ubuntu either.
[01:05] <BigMac> Ubuntu isnt a serious distribution.
[01:05] <BigMac> Its filled with unnecessary stuff for the more.. uneducated users.
[01:06] <pd007> there are uneducated users inside my ubuntu? :o
[01:06] <mattrpalermo> thingfish: Do other network related program have similar problems?
[01:06] <BigMac> Ubuntu users are mostly dual-booters.
[01:06] <BigMac> IF YOU GET MY MEANING
[01:06] <thingfish> mattrpalermo: no, they don't.
[01:06] <BigMac> "MICROSOFT FAN BOYS"
[01:06] <badcatalex> Not me!
[01:07] <BigMac> Ubuntu is slower than XP
[01:07] <badcatalex> Also, I need help getting my Conexant PCI Modem Card working for BBS stuff.
[01:07] <bazhang> BigMac, take the chatter elsewhere
[01:07] <pd007> whats your point BigMac?
[01:08] <badcatalex> I'm on Ubuntu 17.04
[01:08] <BigMac> @pd007 that windows xp is better than ubuntu
[01:08] <finisterra_> I'm having trouble getting touchscreen working out of the box
[01:08] <bazhang> BigMac, thats enough, this is support only NOT chat
[01:08] <BigMac> so what
[01:08] <BigMac> ban me
[01:08] <BigMac> for telling the TRUTH
[01:08] <BigMac> ALEX JONES
[01:08] <BigMac> WAS HERE
[01:08] <BigMac> #infowars
[01:09] <pd007> finisterra_, : whats the problem? hard to halp without any info
[01:09] <mattrpalermo> thingfish: Damn, that's difficult. Have you tried posting to either Ask Ubuntu or Ubuntu forums? Perhaps they might have some ideas.
[01:09] <finisterra_> pd007, I ran xinput but touchscreen doesn't pop up in list
[01:10] <thingfish> mattrpalermo: no, just now starting to look for answers.  I'll check them out, though, thanks.
[01:10] <badcatalex> I need help getting my Conexant PCI Modem Card working for BBS stuff on Ubuntu 17.04. The page on dial-up on info.ubuntu.com is out of date.
[01:10] <badcatalex> *help.ubuntu.com
[01:10] <pd007> finisterra_, : the hdmi+usb kind of touchscreen or some laptop build in screen?
[01:11] <thingfish> it doesn't really seem to be related to activity level, either.
[01:11] <badcatalex> I need help getting my Conexant PCI Modem Card working for BBS stuff on Ubuntu 17.04. The page on dial-up on help.ubuntu.com is out of date.
[01:12] <badcatalex> I need help getting my Conexant PCI Modem Card working for BBS stuff on Ubuntu 17.04. The page on dial-up on help.ubuntu.com is out of date.
[01:13] <finisterra_> that's just it. I dunno if its usb or serial. I tried the lsusb with nothing listed for touchsreen then with serial tried screen /dev/ttsy0 all the way up to 20 and nothing
[01:13] <finisterra_> it's a laptop
[01:13] <finisterra_> toshiba portege m750
[01:14] <finisterra_> pd007, thanks for the help
[01:14] <badcatalex> I need help getting my Conexant PCI Modem Card working for BBS stuff on Ubuntu 17.04. The page on dial-up on help.ubuntu.com is out of date.
[01:15] <quidnunc> I'm getting intermittent DNS lookup failures after installing 17.04. What gives?
[01:15] <mattrpalermo> I can't wait to get a system76 machine *day dreams of the Lemur*
[01:15] <badcatalex> I need help getting my Conexant PCI Modem Card working for BBS stuff on Ubuntu 17.04. The page on dial-up on help.ubuntu.com is out of date.
[01:15] <thingfish> I don't know, call it a hunch maybe if you want, but badcatalex, I bet that mindlessly repeating yourself is not the way to get assistance in this or any other channel.
[01:16] <badcatalex> I'm just desprate
[01:17] <thingfish> did you try installing drivers for it using the Additional Software tab in Software and Updates?
[01:17] <badcatalex> It is unlisted there
[01:17] <thingfish> oh bummer
[01:17] <finisterra_> pd007, I missread your question. It is a built-in touchscreen for laptiop. Not usb plugin
[01:17] <pd007> finisterra_, : but the screen works out of the box? just the input is missing?
[01:17] <badcatalex> Someone else tried to help me, but it went nowhere
[01:18] <finisterra_> pd007, yeah. screen is working. No touch function
[01:18] <badcatalex> want my lspci?
[01:18] <thingfish> well, maybe it's just a bad time of day and none of the channel gurus are active.
[01:19] <thingfish> nah, I got stuff to do.
[01:19] <thingfish> just thought I'd poke my head in here and see if I could get some ideas.
[01:19] <thingfish> good luck
[01:19] <mattrpalermo> thingfish :(
[01:20] <thingfish> thanks for your help, mattrpalermo :)
[01:20] <mattrpalermo> thingfish :)
[01:22] <homeless> Does anyone know anything about chromium and uninstalling it?
[01:30] <mattrpalermo> homeless: You should be able to do this from the software center
[01:33] <badcatalex> Any linux gurus here?
[01:33] <oldschool^> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPjN6N8TgNI
[01:33] <w9qbj> badcatalex: YES, but what's it you need?
[01:33] <badcatalex> I need help getting my Conexant PCI Modem Card working for BBS stuff on Ubuntu 17.04. The page on dial-up on help.ubuntu.com is out of date.
[01:34] <jamesd> dialup is out of date ;-)
[01:35] <badcatalex> I'm using it to use a BBS that is dial-up only
[01:37] <zero_> Question - Is Ubuntu vanilla the only flavor that comes with a "master" scaling option for high res displays?
[01:37] <zephyr8965> I'm back. Client crashed.  Still looking for help getting my bluetooth headphones to stop lagging. x.x
[01:38] <zephyr8965> Any help would be much appreciated.
[01:38] <badcatalex> Repeat: I need help getting my Conexant PCI Modem Card working for BBS stuff on Ubuntu 17.04. The page on dial-up on help.ubuntu.com is out of date.
[01:41] <badcatalex> Repeat: I need help getting my Conexant PCI Modem Card working for BBS stuff on Ubuntu 17.04. The page on dial-up on help.ubuntu.com is out of date.
[01:43] <Bashing-om> xer0: HiDPI ? " Not all software behaves well in high-resolution mode yet. Here are listed most common tweaks which make work on a HiDPI screen more pleasant." :: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI .
[01:43] <finisterra_> how do I list names in this Polari program
[01:43] <thinkingmanjaro> i was running solus then fedora. Both suffered the same bug with my motherboard (Asrock Z87extreme4), if I have my headphones connected to the front port, and my speakers to the green lineout in the back fedora and solus couldn't see my speakers. Only if I unplugged my headphones. This is annoying as it caused me to put a lot of wear on my headphon
[01:43] <thinkingmanjaro> es 3.5mm jack from 2-3 times daily unplugging it in and out. In Windows I never encountered this issue. I'm unsure if its pulseaudio related or what.
[01:44] <thinkingmanjaro> Anyone had a similar bug happen to them in ubuntu?
[01:44] <thinkingmanjaro> Thinking of trying it to avoid that annoying audio bug.
[01:45] <badcatalex> Repeat: I need help getting my Conexant PCI Modem Card working for BBS stuff on Ubuntu 17.04. The page on dial-up on help.ubuntu.com is out of date.
[01:45] <zero_> Thanks Bashing-om
[01:46] <Bashing-om> zero_: :)
[01:48] <Vbits> Hello, I was having issues with my Dell XPS 9550 running Ubuntu 17.04 remounting the root file-system read-only unexpectedly yesterday. I finally managed to get dmesg logs last time it happened. I have since rebooted though. The relevant dmesg logs are at https://gist.github.com/Vbitz/a1e21e661d5bb5d3ff0e7ad40b3ebeba
[01:48] <badcatalex> Repeat: I need help getting my Conexant PCI Modem Card working for BBS stuff on Ubuntu 17.04. The page on dial-up on help.ubuntu.com is out of date.
[01:49] <finisterra_> OK. so new question. My touchscreen does not come up when I type xinput...
[01:49] <j4ckcom> how can i install monaco-font, i can’t install like this : https://github.com/cstrap/monaco-font
[01:49] <finisterra_> should I be reinstalling Ubuntu gnonme? or a diff disctro?
[01:49] <Ben64> j4ckcom: download the font, double click, install
[01:50] <j4ckcom> can you give me link?
[01:50] <j4ckcom> Ben64:
[01:50] <Ben64> its on the page you linked
[01:50] <badcatalex> Repeat: I need help getting my Conexant PCI Modem Card working for BBS stuff on Ubuntu 17.04. The page on dial-up on help.ubuntu.com is out of date.
[01:50] <Ben64> !repeat | badcatalex
[01:51] <j4ckcom> ok thanks Ben64
[01:54] <blacknight> are u checked chipset nameś?
[01:55] <blacknight> of your moden card
[01:58] <FManTropyx> I have dfsg
[02:00] <FManTropyx> things are being uninstalled
[02:01] <j4ckcom> using ubuntu on latop directly or vmware, which is best choice?
[02:01] <FManTropyx> I suppose it depends on what you are looking for
[02:01] <blacknight> normaly u can check for info of this chipset
[02:02] <FManTropyx> DKMS was uninstalled
[02:02] <FManTropyx> "Unknown media type"
[02:03] <blacknight> check on synaptic  for more support
[02:04] <blacknight> sorry im not a profesional just a newbie programer
[02:05] <blacknight> and  u check unsupported drivers ?
[02:05] <pd007> j4ckcom: depends on what you intend to do
[02:06] <j4ckcom> pd007: i just want to use unbuntu only.
[02:06] <j4ckcom> :)
[02:06] <j4ckcom> then how can i do?
[02:06] <blacknight> best on pc
[02:06] <j4ckcom> using vm is not good idea?
[02:06] <felyeni> Hi
[02:07] <blacknight> its more charge  for pc
[02:07] <pd007> you need something to run the "vm" on. that would be some kind of operating system
[02:07] <blacknight> u are runnig 2 machines
[02:07] <pd007> j4ckcom: just install ubuntu on your machine
[02:07] <j4ckcom> directly? pd007 ?
[02:07] <blacknight> just need 30 gb
[02:07] <pd007> yes, why not? if you do not need something else
[02:08] <j4ckcom> most hacker use ubuntu?
[02:08] <jamesd> ubuntu in a vm, if you want a CLI interface.. its not as useful and fast if you want a gui
[02:08] <jamesd> j4ckcom: first define hacker... second a real hacker can use the OS of there choice and that may not be ubuntu.
[02:09] <blacknight> and u can use a win or another OS in a vm in ubuntu
[02:09] <j4ckcom> not ubuntu jamesd :(
[02:09] <j4ckcom> ubuntu have vm too?
[02:09] <FManTropyx> real hackers use one of those penetration systems
[02:09] <bazhang> !ot > FManTropyx
[02:10] <pd007> j4ckcom: have a look at virtualbox, or kvm or xen
[02:10] <FManTropyx> hmph
[02:10] <j4ckcom> pd007: how about vmware?
[02:10] <blacknight> real hacker use a custom linux
[02:10] <blacknight> i think
[02:10] <bazhang> blacknight, lets stay on topic please
[02:11] <blacknight> ok
[02:11] <pratyush> is there any chat channel for zorin?
[02:11] <j4ckcom> custom linux lol
[02:11] <bazhang> #zorinos pratyush
[02:11] <pratyush> thanks
[02:13] <samuraiSwing45> Am I welcome? 1st ubuntu install 1st IRC msg
[02:13] <pd007> j4ckcom: don't knwo of vmware and linux...google it ;) and why lol? to run a kernel with some custom things around will teach you more that www.crazyhackes.comnetde ever will...
[02:13] <PipeItToDevNull> samuraiSwing45, Hello
[02:13] <blacknight> hello samuraiSing45 and welcome
[02:13] <blacknight> congratulations
[02:14] <j4ckcom> pd007: i can’t open that site
[02:14] <samuraiSwing45> thx blacknight!!!
[02:14] <sere> whats more stable.. ubuntu or debian? i have been using debian for amonth now and alot of stuff that was working in ubuntu is not working in debian
[02:15] <blacknight> normaly debian
[02:15] <blacknight> but i dont have any problem with my ubuntu
[02:16] <blacknight> its works  with all that i want
[02:16] <sere> blacknight: thats what i thought and why i switched but having fix alot of stuff i normally wouldnt with ubuntu... i miss my custom minimal install :x
[02:17] <samuraiSwing45> love kali but went crazy installing it but it was fun.
[02:18] <samuraiSwing45> with ubuntu it was pretty straight foward
[02:18] <blacknight> with katooling u can install kaly soft on ubuntu
[02:19] <Ben64> bad idea
[02:19] <blacknight> katolin sorry
[02:19] <Ben64> also not on topic here
[02:19] <blacknight> ok
[02:19] <sere> thats why your not a whiteknight
[02:21] <blacknight> i take the blacknight from monty python  was an amazing film
[02:21] <__Yiota> hey guys I need urgent help
[02:22] <__Yiota> my CTO rebooted both of our google cloud engine nodes
[02:22] <__Yiota> all the data appears to have dissapeared (I can only see my user + ubuntu user)
[02:22] <bazhang> blacknight, please, we ask again to stay on topic
[02:22] <bazhang> blacknight, the chit chat is NOT this one
[02:22] <__Yiota> I checked df -h and the result is: /dev/sda1        49G  1.1G   48G   3% /
[02:23] <__Yiota> it should normally be at ~20 gigs or so
[02:23] <__Yiota> our devops person is away on vacation
[02:23] <bazhang> blacknight, #ubuntu-offtopic for the random chatter
[02:24] <blacknight> ok thanks and sorry
[02:24] <YankDownUnder> __Yiota: So has anyone checked to see if all the "disk storage" was online as well - because that is what it would appear...that storage is not online (or at least completely online)
[02:24] <__Yiota> is there a cli command for that? YankDownUnder
[02:25] <YankDownUnder> __Yiota: I have no idea how your system is setup, so, I can't honestly answer that question.
[02:26] <YankDownUnder> __Yiota: You'd want to have SOME type of "check list" for when the system is shut down or rebooted - do y'all have anything like that?
[02:26] <pd007> __Yiota, rebooted or shutdown - restarted?
[02:27] <__Yiota> we have consul to check for healthchecks
[02:29] <__Yiota> but of course it's gone
[02:30] <__Yiota> pd007 the node was rebooted via the google web api
[02:31] <YankDownUnder> __Yiota: You might want to take this into the #ubuntu-server channel.
[02:32] <YankDownUnder> __Yiota: What you describe - or really, what LITTLE you're describing, isn't very helpful...so you might want to "get all the facts" in order...
[02:32] <pd007> __Yiota, check if your config files are still there or if that machine is "clean"
[02:32] <__Yiota> the machine is clean
[02:33] <__Yiota> all I see is the cloudinit log saying that the VM was created
[02:33] <__Yiota> that is, everything is gone
[02:35] <alphaandomega_> AΩ
[02:37] <vishy> I'm trying to use gdisk for repairing gpt disk
[02:40] <vishy> Have a look https://pastebin.com/KdyAsVbe
[02:46] <alphaandomega_> you got the disk? choose B
[02:46] <alphaandomega_> you pressed P and it printed the shit out son
[02:49] <pd007>  __Yiota that seems like a problem for the google support
[02:50] <pd007> better to call you devops guy in his holiday! ;)
[02:51] <edgy1> Hello, I have Ubuntu Edgy Eft (because I want to) with gnome 2 and I'm wondering if it is possible, when i am customizing the panels, to have the text white instead of black (works better if i use a brownish/black color)
[02:53] <pd007> edgy1, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-font-color-in-gnome-panels.html
[02:53] <alphaandomega_> Gnome 2 has many themes. http://www.linuxnov.com/top-30-dark-gnome-themes-gtk-2-x/ heres a list of 30 of them
[02:53] <alphaandomega_> if it's not there contact the developer of your choice
[02:54] <alphaandomega_> or do it yourself with what pd007 posted
[02:54] <edgy1> thank you @pd007
[02:55] <edgy1> white is #00000 right?
[02:55] <edgy1> I mean #000000
[02:56] <FManTropyx> for me that is black
[02:56] <strive> edgy1: Hex?
[02:56] <strive> edgy1: I believe that's #FFFFFF
[02:57] <edgy1> ok thank you
[02:57] <strive> yw
[02:58] <edgy1> im going to log out brb
[02:58] <sere> alphaandomega_: ty i love dark themes :)
[03:00] <edgy1> uh it keeps changing it back to how it was before
[03:01] <edgy1> it changes it to :   include "/home/james/.gtkrc.mine"
[03:02] <sere> edgy1: white if #ffffff / dark is #000
[03:03] <hdon_> hi all :) i've got a weird bug between gcc/gdb on xenial: https://gist.github.com/hdon/3f96a8a6b67e078e0213660ec6245677
[03:03] <edgy1> I did #ffffff
[03:04] <edgy1> however, it automatically switches to how it is before
[03:04] <edgy1> actually it might be cloning it: james@thinkpad:~$ ls .gtk*
[03:04] <edgy1> .gtk-bookmarks     .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2~     .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2.old~ .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2  .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2.old
[03:06] <alphaandomega_>  is Android really all Linux runtime?
[03:16] <hdon_> alphaandomega_: linux is the kernel
[03:17] <alphaandomega_> Ah. is WebOS still running?
[03:26] <generic> my firefox keeps crashing
[03:27] <lucas_> oi
[03:27] <lucas_> hi
[03:27] <generic> says something sync encountered login error
[03:28] <lucas_> oi
[03:28] <partyline> hello i got a wittel problem i just install ubuntu mate 17 but my mouse not working on laptop
[03:29] <alphaandomega_> when you used windows, what was your mouse driver?
[03:30] <partyline> well i dont remmeber
[03:31] <partyline> but in win work pefrect no i just connect usb mouse
[03:31] <partyline> i mean mouse pad wher is in laptop
[03:34] <alphaandomega_> U gotta know what driver it is
[03:34] <alphaandomega_> so you can search it
[03:34] <alphaandomega_> and then download it
[03:35] <partyline> how to see wgat driver i need
[03:35] <PipeItToDevNull> Is it just a random cheap mouse or something special?
[03:35] <partyline> when i dont have any win install
[03:35] <alphaandomega_> Pipe help him out I'm off to sleep
[03:35] <alphaandomega_> GN
[03:36] <awesomess3> How do you make the Windows XP login/start-up sound when the desktop or ubuntu logo shows up?
[03:36] <generic> apt-get install pimp
[03:37] <uxfi> hi awesomess3
[03:38] <partyline> E: Unable to locate package pimp
[03:38] <awesomess3> uxfi: help me answer this evil question.
[03:38] <generic> apt-cow fcuk firefox
[03:39] <generic> i am really not interested in sending crash logs all day long
[03:39] <generic> fucking shit of a program is almost dragging the kernel down
[03:40] <generic> and shows no nothing except sync encountered a login error on ubuntu
[03:40] <uxfi> awesomess3 http://www.techgainer.com/how-to-disable-or-change-ubuntu-startup-sound-at-login-screen/
[03:41] <generic> let alone what panopticlick.eff.org shows
[03:41] <generic> UNIQE
[03:41] <generic> UUUUU
[03:42] <PipeItToDevNull> partyline, I said keep it here. First you said a mouse was not working now it is a touchpad?
[03:43] <marcoraz> hi guys.. i added official qbittorrent stable ppa, but i am not getting the latest 3.3.12 version. i can only install 3.3.7 from ubuntu repo. this is the ppa - https://launchpad.net/~qbittorrent-team/+archive/ubuntu/qbittorrent-stable
[03:43] <partyline> touchpad
 but in win work pefrect no i just connect usb mouse
[03:43] <thereyougo> if I login remotely to ubuntu, how to find out what ubuntu version  is it ? cat /etc/motd ? cat /dev/version ? anything else ?
[03:44] <Bashing-om> thereyougo: ' cat /etc/issue ' .
[03:44] <awesomess3> uxfi: yaaaay https://ia601004.us.archive.org/5/items/MicrosoftWindowsXPStartupSound/Microsoft%20Windows%20XP%20Startup%20Sound.ogg
[03:44] <jamesd> lsb_release -a
[03:45] <uxfi> awesomess3  that works
[03:45] <partyline> genetic i trying to run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[03:46] <partyline> xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is already the newest version (1.9.0-1ubuntu1)
[03:47] <generic> take mouse and swipe touchpad
[03:51] <partyline> is unoing to use usb mouse
[03:58] <learninglinux> hello all
[04:01] <marcoraz>  hi guys.. i added official qbittorrent stable ppa, but i am not getting the latest 3.3.12 version. i can only install 3.3.7 from ubuntu repo. this is the ppa - https://launchpad.net/~qbittorrent-team/+archive/ubuntu/qbittorrent-stable
[04:03] <awesomess3> marcoraz: `apt-cache show qbittorrent`
[04:05] <marcoraz> awesomess3: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24398413/
[04:07] <awesomess3> marcoraz: omg you used paste.ubuntu.com!  *claps*
[04:08] <awesomess3> marcoraz: ok now `sudo apt-get update` and hopefully your ppa url will show up and update in the output to stdout.
[04:09] <awesomess3> stdout = console output from the command you executed which happens to be `sudo apt-get update'
[04:09] <awesomess3> and I know how everyone is gonna love to say that stderr goes out too.
[04:09] <strive> No pressure awesomess3 :)
[04:12] <marcoraz> awesomess3: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24398562/ ... I have updated many time now. but there seems to be no update for qbittorrent.
[04:16] <acresearch> people i used to use ubuntu and VPN was working perfectly, i am now using debian but when i connect through VPN (the vpn work fine) but the internet freezez, (it returns when i severe the VPN connection),,, what is different between ubuntu and debian in this aspect?
[04:17] <awesomess3> marcoraz: if you open `sudo synaptic` you can see the tab where you can view packages from sources, in this case your launchpad ppa source. http://ppa.launchpad.net/qbittorrent-team/qbittorrent-stable/ubuntu/dists/zesty/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz only shows python-libtorrent python3-libtorrent libtorrent-rasterbar8  primarily
[04:17] <awesomess3> as the packages you can download from this ppa
[04:18] <awesomess3> marcoraz: you can download the source package though:   qbittorrent
[04:18] <awesomess3> marcoraz: http://ppa.launchpad.net/qbittorrent-team/qbittorrent-stable/ubuntu/dists/zesty/main/source/Sources.gz
[04:19] <awesomess3> marcoraz: however, I'm on Trusty....and _I_ can download the binary, hahahahaha qbittorrent http://ppa.launchpad.net/qbittorrent-team/qbittorrent-stable/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[04:20] <awesomess3> Version: 3.3.12-0ppa1~trusty1
[04:21] <awesomess3> I should email them and tell them those poor zesty people need binary packages too ;c
[04:21] <marcoraz> awesomess3: so that means they probably haven't build one for zesty yet? I think I'm gonna wait for the binary package lol.. thanks for helping me out.:)
[04:21] <awesomess3> especially since zesty is so much newer than trusty
[04:21] <marcoraz> haha you that brother
[04:22] <awesomess3> But they have other binary packages for zesty, and qbittorrent is ............. not there?
[04:22] <awesomess3> That makes no sense.
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> !info qbittorrent
[04:23] <awesomess3> OMG even yakkety has it
[04:23] <marcoraz> this here says https://launchpad.net/~qbittorrent-team/+archive/ubuntu/qbittorrent-stable/+packages build failed for yakkety and zesty.. maybe some problem then.
[04:23] <awesomess3> http://ppa.launchpad.net/qbittorrent-team/qbittorrent-stable/ubuntu/dists/yakkety/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[04:24] <awesomess3> oooh
[04:24] <awesomess3> I see.........
[04:25] <marcoraz> that is why new and shiny is not always nice i guess..
[04:25] <marcoraz> poor us zesty people
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> !latest | marcoraz
[04:26] <awesomess3> lotuspsychje: this is ppa.................
[04:26] <awesomess3> or wait..
[04:26] <awesomess3> marcoraz: was talking about zesty in general
[04:26] <awesomess3> Or specifically
[04:26] <awesomess3> for this fucking package
[04:27] <awesomess3> oops I sweared
[04:27] <gogeta> lol
[04:27] <marcoraz> lol
[04:27] <gogeta> best stick to lts if you dont like things broken
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> awesomess3: please mind the language, and we dont support ppa's here
[04:29] <aavrug> I am running df -h on my system and getting /dev/sda1 is 97% used I want to clear some data but unable to access it any idea?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> aavrug: clean system with bleachbit
[04:29] <aavrug> I am trying to access it through terminal
[04:30] <jonfen> aavrug: is it a usb flash drive?  maybe it is read-only?
[04:31] <aavrug> jonfen, It is the Hard disk partition and I don't think because it is read-only that's why unable to access it
[04:31] <aavrug> It is in yellow color I guess that means it is not a directory
[04:32] <Bashing-om> aavrug: What does the tool 'ncdu' tell you about disk usage and where you need to focus your attention ?
[04:32] <awesomess3> lotuspsychje: fantastic idea! To clean the data in the mounted filesystem, let's install more software!
[04:33] <acresearch> people i used to use ubuntu and VPN was working perfectly, i am now using debian but when i connect through VPN (the vpn work fine) but the internet freezez, (it returns when i severe the VPN connection),,, what is different between ubuntu and debian in this aspect?
[04:33] <jonfen> "sudo fdisk -l" would be good information too
[04:33] <aavrug> Bashing-om, because I am running out of space unable to install it
[04:33] <jonfen> acresearch: is the vpn assigning the same subnet as your LAN?
[04:34] <acresearch> jonfen: i don't know, what do you mean?
[04:34] <aavrug> jonfen, I executed that command but unable to understand
[04:34] <aavrug> All in bytes
[04:35] <jonfen> VPN assigns DHCP info, same as your LAN.  If they are on the same subnet, they will conflict, and the symptom is no internet.
[04:35] <jonfen> aavrug: what was the "Type" for /dev/sda1
[04:35] <Bashing-om> aavrug: Is the file system presently "read only " ? if not might try ' sudo apt clean ; sudo apt autoremove ' see if that gets ya some operating head room .
[04:36] <aavrug> Bashing-om, already tried
[04:36] <acresearch> jonfen: hmmm, how can i diagnose this? i connect to vpn in the terminal through openconnect
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> awesomess3: no reason to be ironic...bleachbit can free up gigs of space on full systems
[04:36] <jonfen> acresearch: ifconfig will tell you what ip address you are getting for the vpn and the lan
[04:37] <Bashing-om> aavrug: 'dpkg -l | grep linux- ' maube remove the old kernels ?
[04:37] <aavrug> jonfen, block special file
[04:38] <acresearch> jonfen: hmmm, there is no ifconfig in debian, i cannot install it (is it propreitry? or restrictd to ubuntu only?)
[04:38] <awesomess3> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. what's that package that installs gcc and stuff???
[04:38] <awesomess3> what's the name of it?
[04:38] <freddyP> sudo apt get net-tools     should install ifconfig
[04:38] <awesomess3> basename?
[04:38] <acresearch> freddyP: oh ok
[04:39] <awesomess3> base-gcc-system?
[04:39] <awesomess3> omg
[04:39] <awesomess3> fuuuuuudge
[04:39] <cybertek> hey does anyone remember the name of that service you can run that you can allow or deny all traffic or specific IP's through, it acts like a wrapper for services such as mail
[04:39] <Bashing-om> !info gcc5 xenial
[04:39] <jonfen> acresearch: ip addr
[04:39] <acresearch> jonfen: its ok i got ifconfig like freddyP said
[04:40] <jonfen> acresearch: or you can install the net-tools package
[04:40] <freddyP> tcpwrappers
[04:40] <acresearch> jonfen: ok got ifconfig, what should i be looking at?
[04:40] <aavrug> Bashing-om, How to identify which is old modules there a re a lot in result
[04:41] <jonfen> acresearch: it will list the network information for each of your devices, you will need to figure out which one is your wireless/wired connection and which one is your vpn
[04:41] <jonfen> acresearch: inet <IP_ADDRESS>  netmask <IP_ADDRESS>  broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:42] <awesomess3> build-essential  !!!
[04:42] <jonfen> using that example, if they both start with the same three octets 10.0.0
[04:42] <acresearch> jonfen: i have eth0 (ethernet correct?) i have wireless turned off,, what is lo?
[04:42] <jonfen> then you have a conflict
[04:42] <freddyP> lo is loopback
[04:43] <acresearch> jonfen: ohhh
[04:43] <acresearch> thanks freddyP
[04:43] <jonfen> eth0 is your wired ethernet
[04:44] <Bashing-om> aavrug: ' uname -r ' keep this one and one other . the rest you may safely remove with apt or dpkg .
[04:44] <acresearch> jonfen: so i should compare the inet/bcast/mask IPs?
[04:44] <Bashing-om> !info gcc-5 xenial
[04:45] <jonfen> acresearch: if you just compare the ip addresses (inet) you should have a clear answer.
[04:45] <acresearch> jonfen: ok,,, i will connect to my VPN and do that, i will be back in 2 minutes, VPN cutes my irc
[04:45] <sware> Hello. I'm trying to rsync to my raspberry pi within an ubuntu vm but after my latest vm creation I get broken pipe constantly. I tried setting the ServerTimeoutInterval but it's still giving me broken pipes.
[04:45] <sware> Does anyone have any suggestions? I read in one place it might be the rsync version?
[04:46] <Bashing-om> awesomess3: ^^ gcc-5 ??
[04:46] <jonfen> aavrug: i am not sure how to access a block special file, but that would be something to start googling
[04:47] <freddyP> aavrug; If it is an application aware firewall you are looking for check out this thread https://askubuntu.com/questions/135135/alternative-to-little-snitch-app-firewall
[04:50] <anthony-kaus> hello?
[04:50] <strive> Hi.
[04:50] <acresearch> jonfen: ok i tested it, inet and tun0 are different
[04:50] <acresearch> jonfen: tottally different IPs
[04:50] <anthony-kaus> Any1 play assault cube?
[04:51] <jonfen> do you have control over the vpn?
[04:51] <acresearch> jonfen: what type of control?
[04:51] <jonfen> acresearch: can you change the configuration
[04:52] <jonfen> on the server side
[04:52] <awesomess3> Bashing-om: For 14.04 it gets gcc 4.4.3
[04:52] <acresearch> i don't think so, unless i can change something from my computer... it is my university VPN, i do not own it
[04:53] <jonfen> is it openvpn?
[04:53] <freddyP> acresearch: most universities provide instructions to access their vpn servers
[04:53] <acresearch> jonfen: no openconnect
[04:53] <jonfen> i agree with freddyP, let them know that the vpn is not using remote dns.
[04:53] <acresearch> freddyP: yes, but mine 1. has instructions for windows only, 2. uses cisco which caters for windows only (maybe mac) but not linux
[04:54] <jonfen> mac will be close
[04:54] <Bashing-om> awesomess3: trusty: Package gcc-4.4 >>> 4.4.7-8ubuntu1: amd64 armhf i386 powerpc .
[04:54] <acresearch> but freddyP jonfen the VPN worked perfectly in ubuntu, it is not working perfectly in debian,,, what is the difference?
[04:54] <freddyP> acresearch: does this help  https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/saucy/openconnect/
[04:55] <acresearch> freddyP: hmmm interesting, i should looking into it
[04:55] <acresearch> freddyP: oh yes, i am already using openconnect :-)
[04:55] <jonfen> you did mention that, sorry.  it is probably your config file
[04:56] <awesomess3> Bashing-om: really? I see 4.8.2-1ubuntu6
[04:56] <jonfen> i haven't set up openconnect, so i am not sure
[04:56] <acresearch> jonfen: hmmm
[04:56] <jonfen> are you using a window manager at all?
[04:56] <acresearch> where is the config file i'll try to compare debian with ubuntu
[04:56] <acresearch> jonfen: i am in gnome3, is that what you mean?
[04:58] <Bashing-om> awesomess3: PPA? as : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gcc-4.4&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all says other wise .
[04:58] <jonfen> acresearch: you might want to try: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager
[04:59] <jonfen> sudo apt-get install network-manager
[05:00] <awesomess3> Bashing-om: well actually ....... build-essential goes after a gcc >= 4.4 and the `gcc' package is currently at 4.8.2-1ubuntu6 for Trusty.
[05:00] <acresearch> jonfen: ok i will look into this, but before i go on reading i want to mention a specific issue.   in ubuntu when i setup my VPN my IP address does NOT change (i checked) i can even access websites that are restricted at the university (it is like the vpn is only going through the TERMINAL and not any other application) is my observation in the right place?
[05:01] <jonfen> you still keep your ip, but you get another one via the vpn
[05:02] <Bashing-om> awesomess3: true : 4:4.8.2-1ubuntu6: amd64 arm64 armhf i386 powerpc ppc64el for gcc .
[05:02] <acresearch> jonfen: hmmmm, but i can access the internet as if i am home and not uni (the university blocks some websites and IRC) but i can still connect to them even after i setup the VPN
[05:03] <acresearch> jonfen: hmmm so i get 2 IPs,   maybe this is not the case here in debian?
[05:04] <jonfen> that is a vpn thing, i bet if you look at ubuntu you will see the same
[05:04] <acresearch> jonfen: oh
[05:05] <jonfen> because you are bridging two networks, so you have two different DHCP settings.
[05:05] <acresearch> jonfen: ohhhh ok i think i am getting it now
[05:08] <jonfen> the problem is that for some reason, and you are right is is probably client side, when you connect to the vpn, it is probably using the vpn's DNS servers, instead of the ones on your local network to resolve sites.
[05:10] <acresearch> jonfen: where can i go to see the difference or change configurations?
[05:18] <jonfen> acresearch: i am not sure.  /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[05:23] <mihael_k33hl> Hello, I'm currently using Ubuntu Budgie and messed it up, how do I reset the desktop to its default settings?
[05:34] <ukhan> I want to create a image, using docker file, which when I run it should take me to my jupyter notebook. really appreciate, if anyone could help
[05:50] <roko> How can I make a directory writeable for all users?
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> !chmod | roko
[05:52] <coder-bts> hi, I just updated to Ubuntu 17.04. But my network and DNS Sever went in worng
[05:52] <coder-bts> does anyone know how to set dns server in ubuntu 17.04?
[05:53] <coder-bts> I;ve heard that there's something difference on DNS setting between 17.04 and 16.10
[05:53] <roko> lotuspsychje: So if I chmod 777 <directory> does it give write permission to all users in the system
[05:55] <coder-bts> anyone can help me? I can not connect to most website now.
[05:55] <coder-bts> and the dns setting is not working
[05:57] <shadow-x> @coder-bts, try sudo echo '<IP_ADDRESS>' > /etc/resolv.conf
[05:57] <ukhan> I want to create a image, using docker file, which when I run it should take me to my jupyter notebook. really appreciate, if anyone could help
[05:58] <immu> how do i make my fat32 partition as write also /dev/sda6
[05:58] <shadow-x> sudo echo 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' >> /etc/resolv.conf
[05:58] <shadow-x> typo:  sudo echo 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' > /etc/resolv.conf
[05:58] <coder-bts> tried
[05:58] <coder-bts> shadow-x: all dns setting does not work
[05:58] <freddyP> coder-bts in your ipv4 settings add open dns  <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:59] <freddyP> the dns resolver is not working correctly if you are using your router's ip address as your dns server
[05:59] <freddyP> opendns is working
[06:00] <freddyP> editing resolve.conf is just bandage and not a fix
[06:00] <freddyP> as that file is autogenerated
[06:00] <freddyP> and gets overwritten
[06:00] <coder-bts> wait....
[06:00] <coder-bts> shadow-x: it works!
[06:00] <coder-bts> but sometimes does not work..
[06:00] <coder-bts> weird
[06:00] <freddyP> it gets overwritten
[06:00] <coder-bts> i tried it times before
[06:01] <shadow-x> after a reboot it won't work as freddy said, it's generated..
[06:01] <coder-bts> nope
[06:01] <shadow-x> dhcpd overwrites it and point to your router mostly
[06:01] <coder-bts> i am sure it was not overwritten
[06:01] <freddyP> manualy enter open dns in the network manager
[06:01] <coder-bts> i worte a script to change it automaticly
[06:01] <shadow-x> it's better to set <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> in your router dns as well
[06:01] <coder-bts> and restart the service
[06:02] <coder-bts> freddyP: how?
[06:02] <shadow-x> that's a hack, i don't remember where dhcp client stores it, google around.. i'm sure there's a way to set it permanently
[06:02] <freddyP> you dont need to
[06:02] <freddyP> you just add a dns server in your ipv4 settings in your network manager. A dns server other than your router's ip
[06:03] <freddyP> no doubt ubuntu will patch this
[06:03] <freddyP> as it is a bug
[06:03] <arbiternal> Hi guys, I am running a ubuntu 15.10 with korean language installed. I was doing a System Testing Utility, then and the System Testing Utility crashed, on reboot, Ubuntu is stuck at the login screen, and whenever I log it it logs me back out, there's flash of error before it kicks me out, but I can't read it that fast. StackOverflow suggested it might be a graphics card error so I booted in safe mode but I suppose due to the local
[06:03] <arbiternal> squares
[06:04] <est31> hi there, just updated to zesty
[06:04] <arbiternal> buh
[06:04] <est31> everything runs smooth and fine, great
[06:04] <arbiternal> I don't even know what to ask
[06:04] <est31> but one thing
[06:04] <est31> apt dist-upgrade tells me it holds back an update for lldb
[06:05] <est31> because lldb depends on lldb-4.0 but that should not be installed
[06:05] <arbiternal> Jesus what's with my grammar today
[06:05] <est31> any help?
[06:06] <alkisg> (08:58:19 πμ) shadow-x: typo:  sudo echo 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' > /etc/resolv.conf ==> just a note, the redirect there doesn't have sudo permissions, it can't write to resolv.conf... echo nameserver | sudo tee would work
[06:06] <Bashing-om> !15.10 | arbiternal
[06:07] <arbiternal> @ubottu roger that
[06:07] <Bashing-om> arbiternal: ^^ No access to software to effect the repair .
[06:07] <arbiternal> I dled it like 3 years ago and installed it a couple months ago, I wasn't the one using it so I didn't know it had issues until today
[06:08] <arbiternal> I guess I'll just update it to 16 or 17 then
[06:08] <shadow-x> indeed
[06:08] <arbiternal> @Bashing-om thank you as well
[06:08] <alkisg> arbiternal: ubottu is a bot, a program
[06:08] <arbiternal> ah
[06:08] <arbiternal> shit
[06:08] <arbiternal> been off irc too long
[06:08] <alkisg> We invoke it to take/tell notes
[06:08] <Bashing-om> arbiternal: Save your data and clean install the current LTS - 16.04 - .
[06:08] <arbiternal> :P
[06:09] <arbiternal> @Bashing-om alright, thanks again
[06:10] <Bashing-om> arbiternal: One can upgrade from 15.10 but, broken the results are iffy .
[06:11] <est31> seems apt remove lldb-3.8 fixed the issue
[06:11] <arbiternal> eh, like I said, I wasn't the one using it so I'll have to double check, but I think we're allowed to just do a clean install
[06:13] <arbiternal> quit
[06:13] <arbiternal> whoops, wrong window
[06:28] <no_gravity> Hello! Do you guys prefer VMware or VirtualBox?
[06:33] <Wulf> no_gravity: virtualbox, or libvirt
[06:34] <no_gravity> Wulf: What is libvirt?
[06:35] <awesomess3> no_gravity:  hmmmmmm, 30% VMware and 70% VirtualBox.
[06:36] <no_gravity> Ok, let me try VirtualBox...
[06:37] <Wulf> no_gravity: err.. never mind. I guess this is just a frontend for virtualization technologies
[06:37] <mattpalermo> no_gravity: Gnome boxes is pretty easy to use.
[06:38] <mattpalermo> Wulf: is gnome boxes just a gui wrapper for libvirt?
[06:39] <no_gravity> So I did "apt-get install virtualbox" .. but now, how do I start it?
[06:39] <no_gravity> $ virtualbox // results in: The program 'virtualbox' is currently not installed.   Because the company I was running at that time had an old Windows PC for the graphics guy.
[06:45] <no_gravity> Can I just download any old distro iso and run it inside virtual box?
[06:45] <alkisg> New or old, sure
[06:45] <no_gravity> What could be a really slim one?
[06:45] <alkisg> How much ram do you want to give it?
[06:46] <no_gravity> alkisg: No idea.
[06:46] <alkisg> 512 mb => ubuntu mate, 128 => dsl
[06:46] <no_gravity> I just want to test the Excel viewer.
[06:46] <alkisg> It depends on how slim
[06:46] <no_gravity> dsl?
[06:46] <alkisg> Then scratch the dsl idea, go for ubuntu-mate or lubuntu
[06:46] <no_gravity> Let me try ubuntu mate...
[06:47] <no_gravity> Hmm... 64 or 32 bit?
[06:47] <alkisg> no_gravity: are you using linuxmint? you can use the same one inside vbox too
[06:47] <alkisg> Just don't use cinnamon there
[06:50] <no_gravity> Well, I am downloading Ubuntu Mate. Let's see if it runs in Virtual Box.
[06:53] <awesomess3> alkisg: what's wrong with using linuxmint w/ cinnamonominon on a virtualbox?
[06:53] <aiena> I need some help. I am working on a system where the previous developer had installed 2 version of postgres. One is installed in /opt so I presume it was compiled (v 9.4). And there is one installed by package management (v 9.3) now my PHP app is detecting only the 9.3 postgres version. How do I resolve this.
[06:55] <mattpalermo> no_gravity: What is this 'Excel viewer' you talk of? I am interested?
[06:55] <no_gravity> mattpalermo: A program by Microsoft that lets you view excel files.
[06:57] <aiena> no_gravity,  that way libre office can view excel files too
[06:57] <no_gravity> aiena: I want to debug why a certain ods spreadsheet does show errors when opened in excel.
[06:58] <no_gravity> Not sure if I have to install full blown excel for that or if the excel viewer can open ods files.
[06:58] <no_gravity> So I'm trying.
[06:58] <aiena> no_gravity, well becaue its ods and libre office and or ms words ods parsing code is buggy
[06:58] <aiena> it will be hard to diagnose on which end the issue is
[06:59] <aiena> why dont you use libreoffice on windows too
[06:59] <aiena> if your using ods
[06:59] <no_gravity> aiena: I don't need to figure out on which end the issue is. I just need to make sure our spreadsheet export exports files libreoffice and excel can open.
[06:59] <aiena> then use csv
[06:59] <aiena> but then no formulas etc. will work
[07:00] <no_gravity> Well, I could tell everybody working with the files to use ods. But if possible I would like to leave the choice open to use Excel as well.
[07:00] <aiena> no_gravity,  give people an ods option and a fallback data only csv option
[07:00] <no_gravity> aiena: That would make our workflow too complicated.
[07:00] <no_gravity> We need just one filetype everybody can work with.
[07:01] <aiena> then force users to use libreoffice with ods
[07:01] <no_gravity> We are pretty much settled on ods.
[07:01] <no_gravity> If it's possible to make the ods files usable in Excel too, that would be the best option.
[07:02] <no_gravity> ods files saved directly from libreoffice so far worked perfectly in excel.
[07:02] <aiena> it would be possible but there is no guarantee the same ods even when converted to xls etc. will behave the same way as the original
[07:02] <no_gravity> We don't convert.
[07:02] <no_gravity> We only use ods files.
[07:04] <aiena> no_gravity, 'ods files saved directly from libreoffice so far worked perfectly in excel.' that statement involves a huge amount of probability it mostly may work but suddenly you may encounter bugs. There is no guarantee the same ods file will work as well on libreOffice as on Excel also different versions introduce different bugs.
[07:05] <no_gravity> Yes, you are right with that.
[07:05] <aiena> if you want to actually try though. Just do a test in a windows VM with only the excel viewer see if it opens ods
[07:06] <aiena> ods support was only recently added by microsoft it probably will be a third class citizen compare to xlsx etc. their proprietary formats
[07:06] <no_gravity> That's why I'm downloading Ubuntu Mint.
[07:06] <no_gravity> That's why I'm downloading Ubuntu Mate.
[07:07] <no_gravity> Ah, windows VM. Yeah, that would be an option if it does not work in a linux vm.
[07:08] <awesomess3> and I'm downloading Ubuntu debian mate sauce!
[07:09] <alkisg> (09:53:00 πμ) awesomess3: alkisg: what's wrong with using linuxmint w/ cinnamonominon on a virtualbox? ==> there's nothing wrong with that, that's why I suggested it
[07:10] <alkisg> *ah with => it requires opengl
[07:13] <mattpalermo> no_gravity: Microsoft has an office online web app. Perhaps that might be helpful.
[07:13] <no_gravity> mattpalermo: That is an interesting idea. Let me see what hoops one has to jump through to use it...
[07:15] <awesomess3> alkisg: cinnamon doesn't require opengl? and what's wrong with a cinnamon DE and and a cinnamon virtualbox? Don't you put extra cinnamon on your peanut butter toast in the morning?
[07:15] <no_gravity> mattpalermo: Too many hoops.
[07:24] <pd007> no_gravity, the 2008 version of the exel viewer?
[07:24] <no_gravity> pd007: What do you mean?
[07:24] <pd007> Date Published:
[07:24] <pd007> 1/14/2008
[07:25] <pd007> id do not open ods files
[07:26] <no_gravity> I see.
[07:26] <pd007> or did i get wrong what you want to do?
[07:26] <no_gravity> I will try to install a full Windows in VirtualBox then.
[07:30] <mattpalermo> no_gravity: https://office.live.com/start/Excel.aspx
[07:31] <no_gravity> mattpalermo: Gives me a sign up page
[07:31] <jonsaint> hi all. can anyone recommend a facebook programme for ubuntu. im fairly new to all this so any advice would be great
[07:31] <mattpalermo> no_gravity: That shouldn't take long, then you're in!
[07:32] <no_gravity> jonsaint: Firefox. It let's you access the whole world wide web. Including Facebook.
[07:32] <mattpalermo> heh!
[07:33] <no_gravity> mattpalermo: Ok, I'll try...
[07:34] <mattpalermo> jonsaint: the package libwww-facebook-api-perl might help :P but seriously, there are a few plugins for some desktops. Which desktop are you using?
[07:35] <jonsaint> ive installed ubuntu but im pretty new to it so getting used to finding out what it does
[07:36] <no_gravity> jonsaint: Can you open FireFox?
[07:36] <jonsaint> yes i got firefox
[07:37] <no_gravity> jonsaint: Do you know how to enter a url?
[07:37] <mattpalermo> jonsaint: Ah fantastic! So I am guessing that you installed just plain Ubuntu. The desktop you have is most likely Unity. I think there is a unity plugin for facebook
[07:37] <mattpalermo> The plugin will provide some sort of notification functionality and probably chat.
[07:38] <jonsaint> is there also something i can add to the desktop with this chat programme instead of me having to keep going to freenode website
[07:39] <no_gravity> mattpalermo: I'm in :)
[07:39] <no_gravity> mattpalermo: Yay, Excel online shows the same bug that the desktop version shows.
[07:39] <no_gravity> So Halleluhja, I can debug it without installing Windows!
[07:40] <no_gravity> mattpalermo: Thanks man!
[07:41] <mattpalermo> no_gravity: Ah damn. What bug are you talking about? Have you got a troublesome excel workbook?
[07:41] <no_gravity> mattpalermo: I have an ods file that shows 2 cells differently when opened in excel.
[07:41] <no_gravity> It's from our system that exports data to ods files.
[07:42] <no_gravity> I need to figure out how to make it work in all spreadsheet clients.
[07:42] <mattpalermo> jonsaint: I forgot what is installed by default. But try searching for 'IRC' in your application menu. And if that fails you can try out some of the apps from the software center
[07:43] <jonsaint> mattpalermo thanks for the info. il go and have a look
[07:43] <mattpalermo> no_gravity: Oh I see. I wasn't fully following the conversation earlier. Good luck!
[07:43] <no_gravity> mattpalermo: Thanks!
[07:44] <mattpalermo> No problem jonsaint!  Maybe someone know how to change the programs volume via c++ code or bash? (Program volume, not master!)
[08:27] <aiena> hmm I dont think you can change program volume via alsa but I may be wrong
[08:27] <aiena> usually you use another sound server like pulse to change per app volume
[08:27] <aiena> rascal,  you could look into that
[08:28] <aiena> alternatively you can ask at #linux
[08:28] <rascal> aiena I see that in Sound settings there is applications bar, maybe it's possible to control sound there via code or bash?
[08:29] <aiena> rascal, find out what that is using.
[08:30] <aiena> Most distributions use pulse audio if its using pulse then you need to look into pulse API or make your c code simple start another shell process to change per app volume in background
[08:30] <aiena> rascal, try installing pavucontrol package
[08:31] <aiena> and launch it
[08:31] <aiena> it should offere per app audio control
[08:32] <rascal> aiena, i need to have sound control in my application
[08:32] <rascal> i will check your suggestions
[08:32] <rascal> really appreciate it! :)
[08:37] <a616inda> ghbdtn
[08:38] <a616belo> Hello
[08:38] <a616inda> Where are you from, guys?
[08:39] <rascal> Lithuania :)
[08:39] <rascal> you?
[08:39] <a616belo> Searching for girl :DDDD
[08:39] <a616inda> Russia
[08:39] <ducasse> !ot
[08:40] <aiena> rascal, sound control is usually at OS level itself. I think best bet is to reduce the amplification of your output audio stream
[08:40] <aiena> so the volume is relative to whatever volume the user has set.
[08:40] <a616inda> We  aren't bots, we're from msu
[08:40] <aiena> but you do not alter volume the user has set the user may just hate you otherwise rascal
[08:41] <a616belo> so, im Mitchell <btw
[08:41] <aiena> the nickname rascal when used in sentense context can be pretty ambiguous rascal
[08:41] <aiena> *sentece
[08:42] <rascal> ;d
[08:42] <a616inda> do you know c++?
[08:42] <a616belo> y , ofc
[08:44] <aiena> no I dont. But every programming language must be having some way to do it. If it doesnt and someone hasnt made it already then probably the language chosen may not be a good fit if you dont want to implement it yourself
[08:44] <aiena> given that the language is C there must be some low level lib able to do it
[08:44] <theablestman> hello
[08:44] <aiena> alternatively rascal can look into audacities code base
[08:45] <mattrpalermo> rascal: I am no programming expert, but surely a framework like QT would have this all figured out for you?
[08:45] <theablestman> how do i add a encrytion passphrase in ubuntu 14.04lts
[08:45] <theablestman> using terminal
[08:46] <a616grek> slava Ukraine
[08:46] <aiena> rascal, what I mean to say is alter the audio streams amplitude itself you may not even need alsa / pulse for volume control reduce amplitude of the output wave form and it automatically becomes softer , amplify it and its louder
[08:47] <aiena> theablestman, encryption passphrase in what context ?
[08:47] <theablestman> when i start up my system i have to enter a passphrase
[08:48] <aiena> password not a passphrase
[08:48] <theablestman> ok
[08:48] <aiena> or do you mean a real pass phrase
[08:48] <theablestman> password
[08:49] <aiena> theablestman, do you know the current password ?
[08:49] <rascal> aiena: thanks, i'll will take a more detail look into this
[08:49] <theablestman> yes
[08:49] <aiena> ok in that case just run the "passwd" command in your shell
[08:49] <theablestman> not that
[08:49] <aiena> enter the current password and then the password you want to change it to
[08:49] <theablestman> before that
[08:49] <aiena> and then you password changes
[08:49] <aiena> before that ?
[08:50] <theablestman> yes
[08:50] <theablestman> cryptsetup lukkey i think
[08:50] <aiena> can you post a screen shot or something I dont get what you means
[08:51] <teoh> I need some help. After installing buntu I can't log into it. It freezes at the encrypted lvm screen. Trying to boot into recovery did me no good.  http://imgur.com/a/tES5E
[08:51] <ducasse> theablestman: if you mean for full-disk encryption i think the disks util can add a passphrase
[08:51] <theablestman> https://www.google.com/search?q=screenshot+of+crypt+setup&client=ubuntu&hs=dEk&channel=fs&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjn_pKfjqvTAhUK8CYKHVRhCCoQ7AkIPg&biw=1301&bih=678#imgrc=ITq3w2mSmn5kFM:
[08:52] <theablestman> http://linuxbsdos.com/2014/01/14/apply-the-nuke-patch-to-luks-cryptsetup-in-linux-mint-16-and-ubuntu-13-10/ scroll down
[08:53] <mattrpalermo> Slightly related to the topic: Does anyone know a way that I can turn my volume up above 100%. I have tiny laptop speakers :(
[08:53] <EriC^^> mattrpalermo: settings > sounds > allow above 100%
[08:55] <soupnanodesukar> teoh: in recovery mode, you can resolve archive.ubuntu.com by adding nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> to /etc/resolv.conf after running dhclient [your ethernet nic here].
[08:55] <soupnanodesukar> t. had to do this with my sister's system today
[08:56] <teoh> soup, I can't. For some reason no net in recovery it freezes at boot.
[08:56] <mattrpalermo> EriC^^: Thanks! It worked. It's slightly different in Kubuntu but I improvised.
[08:56] <EriC^^> mattrpalermo: great! no problem
[08:57] <theablestman> BRB
[08:57] <teoh> Soup, http://imgur.com/a/bzCC3
[09:00] <pandaadb> Hi. I am trying 17.04 to check if nvidia tearing is fixed. I tried the default drivers (come with the install) and it seems better but not all fixed (i am not sure, might be a different issue). However, when switching into power safe and rebooting I get a catastrophic failure and can only do a fresh install
[09:01] <pandaadb> The system tries to boot up and then freezes completely. I can't switch into a terminal, I can't type, the cursor doesn't move, absolutely no response, the only thing working is pushing the power down button
[09:02] <pandaadb> I now installed the nvidia drivers off the repositories, version 381, and wanted to try again
[09:02] <pandaadb> Is there a way for me to grab the logs or any info so that I can provide better feedback than "everything freezes and i don't know why" :)
[09:04] <xbonesx> Hello all.
[09:05] <xbonesx> Anyone have any experience with efibootmgr?
[09:05] <ducasse> xbonesx: yes, what's the question?
[09:06] <xbonesx> ducasse: I see that I can use it to change my boot manger. I would like to install ubuntu but keep the windows boot manager in case I decide to go back to windows. What I would like to accomplish is using the win boot for choosing my win10 install and an option to get to grub for my ubuntu install.
[09:07] <soupnanodesukar> pandaadb: my sister has similar problems, it all goes white once you get X11, but terminal still works. I had to apt purge nvidia* and use nouveau instead.
[09:07] <soupnanodesukar> oh, and install nouvaeu-firmware, it's easy to forget.
[09:08] <ducasse> xbonesx: most firmwares have a built-in boot manager that will allow you to select which bootloader to start. you usually access this by pressing a key on boot, see the docs for your motherboard/computer.
[09:08] <pandaadb> soupnanodesukar, I can't even do that because I can't do the ctrl + alt combo
[09:08] <soupnanodesukar> pandaadb: reboot into recovery
[09:08] <pandaadb> ah okay
[09:09] <pandaadb> remind me, how do I boot into recovery again? :)
[09:09] <soupnanodesukar> "advanced options for ubuntu" in grub. :)
[09:09] <pandaadb> that works without the USB drive with the install
[09:09] <pandaadb> ah yes
[09:09] <pandaadb> thanks
[09:09] <xbonesx> ducasse: So just to be sure here... I install ubuntu right now and choose the option install alongside windows. This will cause my boot manager to default to the one that ubuntu installs, yes?
[09:09] <soupnanodesukar> np
[09:10] <ducasse> xbonesx: yes, but it will have an entry to boot windows
[09:10] <Noob2017> hello, I am using Ubuntu Mate 16.04.2 now. When I try to shut down, it logs out instead. Not able to shut it down now.
[09:10] <Noob2017> It gives this error..  Failed to start poweroff.target: Transaction is destructive. See system logs and 'systemctl status poweroff.target' for details.
[09:11] <Dwarf> the command you're looking for is "sudo poweroff"
[09:11] <Dwarf> You need superuser privileges to power off
[09:11] <xbonesx> ducasse: Right. but... if i get rid of ubuntu then I'm stuck with ubuntu's loader. What I would rather do is continue using win boot mgr and create an entry that will then boot the one from ubuntu and let me choose ubuntu that way
[09:11] <mattrpalermo> pandaadb: I wonder if there would be anything logged to /var/log which you could check after your system crashes.
[09:11] <xbonesx> ducasse: I've accomplished this on a mbr boot record but efi is a little different
[09:12] <Noob2017> hello, this is happening today after I updated and upgraded the OS.
[09:12] <Noob2017> please help me out.
[09:12] <ducasse> xbonesx: ask in ##windows for that, _or_ use the firmware boot manager
[09:12] <xbonesx> ducasse: thanks
[09:13] <ducasse> Noob2017: did you do what the message told you to do?
[09:13] <Noob2017> ducasse, what should I do? I am clueless.
[09:13] <Noob2017> ducasse, I am a newbie.
[09:14] <ducasse> Noob2017: like it says, 'systemctl status poweroff.target'. see what the problem is.
[09:14] <Noob2017> ducasse, how? where? please guide me.
[09:14] <ducasse> Noob2017: enter that in a terminal
[09:15] <Noob2017> ducass, this is the output I got.  ● poweroff.target - Power-Off    Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/poweroff.target; enabled; vendor preset:     Active: inactive (dead)      Docs: man:systemd.special(7) lines 1-4/4 (END)
[09:16] <freddyP> Noob2017; have you forced a shutdown holding down the powerbutton on your computer for 10 secs
[09:16] <Noob2017> freddyP, no.
[09:16] <Noob2017> freddyP, shall I do it now?
[09:17] <freddyP> that would be the first thing i would have done
[09:17] <Noob2017> ok. let me do it now.
[09:17] <Noob2017> will be back if the problem persists. thanks a lot.
[09:18] <ducasse> Noob2017: don't do that
[09:18] <ducasse> freddyP: that's a horrible suggestion
[09:18] <Noob2017> ducasse, any other solution you have. do you suspect any major problem here?
[09:18] <Noob2017> ok. I'm still here.
[09:20] <ducasse> Noob2017: see if 'sudo systemctl poweroff' shuts down. be aware that it will just kill your graphical interface and then shut down, so don't do it until you're ready for it.
[09:20] <Noob2017> ducasse, any other solution?
[09:20] <freddyP> ducasse: If i had a dollar for every time 'turning it off and back on again' worked
[09:21] <ducasse> freddyP: killing power is a bad way to shut down a unix-like system, period.
[09:22] <freddyP> sometmes its the only way out
[09:23] <ducasse> freddyP: yes, but let's see if it is first.
[09:23] <freddyP> sure it can cause directory issues but on boot most unix systems run fsck anyhow
[09:24] <soupnanodesukar> Noob2017: "any other solution" alt-sysrq-s alt-sysrq-u alt-sysrq-b
[09:24] <soupnanodesukar> wait a second or so between each combo
[09:25] <soupnanodesukar> Or try systemctl start poweroff.target
[09:25] <ducasse> freddyP: fsck won't necessarily work. but it's pointless to discuss this, my point is 'look for a better way first'
[09:25] <freddyP> sudo reboot
[09:25] <ducasse> he's gone now.
[09:26] <freddyP> aha maybe he shutdown
[09:29] <mattrpalermo> freddyP: Turning the power off at the wall is much more efficient. Nice and fast :P
[09:30] <freddyP> :)
[09:30] <pandaadb> okay, using the normal default drivers with the nvidia card seems to work fine. Weird issue with the freezing though. Out of interest, does that mean that the nvidia card is not used at all when using the Nouveou drivers
[09:32] <soupnanodesukar> it should, especialy so if your monitor is connected to your nvidia card.
[09:33] <pandaadb> okay, that is good enough for now :) I read that the tearing-fix only made it into 17.04 recently and people have reported crashes etc
[09:34] <pandaadb> maybe in a few weeks this will be ironed out
[09:34] <soupnanodesukar> yup
[09:35] <pandaadb> so the default Nouveou drivers are just a not-as-feature-rich nvidia driver implementation?
[09:36] <pandaadb> I can probably just google the difference between those too (/me tries that)
[09:46] <sebsebseb>
[09:52] <sebsebseb>  1  2 3
[09:58] <thereyougo> on some system if I run: "cat /etc/debian_version" it says: "stretch/sid" so its debian right ? but if on same system I run: "cat /etc/lsb-release" it says: "DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS", so is it ubuntu or debian ?
[09:58] <khebbie> leave
[09:58] <ducasse> thereyougo: ubuntu.
[09:59] <ducasse> thereyougo: /etc/debian_version just reflects the debian release ubuntu was based on
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> thereyougo  type    cat /etc/issue
[10:10] <thereyougo> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[10:10] <thereyougo> but why is there "/etc/debian_version" ?
[10:11] <thereyougo> thanks
[10:16] <freddyP> thereyougo: Ubuntu is based on Debian
[10:17] <freddyP> Debian is the daddy
[10:21] <freddyP> thereyougo:  the file is also there as some apps when you install them need to pull the version of Debian your using when compiling
[10:22] <freddyP> likewise if you cat /etc/debian_version it returns the current build of debian you have
[10:24] <bujji> hi
[10:27] <sebsebseb> bujji: hi
[10:35] <IIIdefconIII> Does anyone know a good image program, to image from a booted system without the need for a live cd, i frequently wanne image my HTPC machine, take it over with ssh or vnc and start the image without the need to do it with usb stick, i know for windows that macrium reflect can do it but for linux there is only live cd support.... builtin linux disk manager says offcoruse resource is busy cause its booted
[10:36] <cfhowlett> live cd support only?  FALSE!
[10:36] <cfhowlett> !install
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> IIIdefconIII  i guess that sounds like a tftp-boot
[10:41] <cfhowlett> I would have guessed pxe install ...
[10:46] <IIIdefconIII> so there is not software that is able tot do this from booted system
[10:46] <IIIdefconIII> otherwise i need to for example create an tft boot server in a virtual machine orso
[10:46] <thiras> when we will have ZFS root on Ubuntu?
[10:46] <ducasse> IIIdefconIII: you can use dd, but the problem is that the fs might not be consistent
[10:46] <sebsebseb> IIIdefconIII: what you want to do can probably be done, but I don't know how
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> thiras  you can select zfs during installatuion, iirc
[10:47] <k1l> thiras: when someone writes proper working support for the installers etc.
[10:47] <sebsebseb> thiras: its already supported in 16.04 I belive as an option
[10:47] <IIIdefconIII> ok thanks for repsonding :)
[10:47] <sebsebseb> thiras: its unlikely to go default any time soon though
[10:47] <k1l> thiras: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu
[10:48] <ducasse> sebsebseb: not for the root fs, zfs is only supported for storage
[10:48] <thiras> thanks for answers
[10:48] <sebsebseb> ducasse: oh
[10:49] <thiras> k1l, debian has it already. couldn't we fork their installers?
[10:50] <k1l> thiras: native root zfs support? i doubt that. and its not according to the zfsonlinux wiki
[10:51] <k1l> thiras: and i doubt debian added the modules to their installer. i highly doubt that, since they have totally different view on the licensing of zfs
[10:52] <fotografoLombard> curioso28mi
[10:52] <fotografoLombard> nick curioso28mi
[10:52] <thiras> thanks k1l. just checked. it seems you are right.
[11:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:16] <nowy_linux_> Hello
[11:17] <sebsebseb> nowy_linux_: HI
[11:17] <nowy_linux_> I have problem with install ubuntu on Asus gl752vw. Could sb help me, pls? https://youtu.be/KZyggKClCJY
[11:18] <sebsebseb> nowy_linux_: OK on your video
[11:18] <cores> YankDownUnder, turned out to be a hardware problem. i disabled the touchpad and pointer in the bios and everything is working
[11:18] <FManTropyx> czesc, nowy_linux_
[11:18] <cores> YankDownUnder, there still might be a synaptics or libinput driver config work around
[11:20] <nowy_linux_> On my lenovo ubuntu is working awesome. I changed settings In bios like on this Video https://youtu.be/uuPEmQJfFwo
[11:20] <sebsebseb> nowy_linux_: whats the issue, it freezes on boot up? is your name sasha as well :d ?
[11:21] <subthalamus> hello, hi, how are ya? Is it possible to skip yakety? I have two xenial boxes I'd like to upgrade straight to Zesty
[11:22] <sebsebseb> !xenial
[11:22] <sebsebseb> !zesty
[11:22] <sebsebseb> subthalamus: no
[11:22] <sebsebseb> subthalamus: would have to go through 16.10
[11:22] <sebsebseb> but why upgrade?
[11:22] <auronandace> subthalamus: no, you can only go directly from one lts to the next or you need to go from one release to the next
[11:22] <cfhowlett> subthalamus, you currently have LTS. highly recommended you stay with LTS
[11:22] <sebsebseb> subthalamus: indeed Ubuntu is on uncertan times, with its drop of the Unity interface etc
[11:22] <sebsebseb> may as well stay with 16.04 for now as a result
[11:23] <subthalamus> oh
[11:23] <sebsebseb> subthalamus: plus  compared to 16.04,  16.10 and 17.04  don't really have  much differences  for Unity 7.  they do have unity 8 previews but  those are dropped so
[11:24] <nowy_linux_> So i should download ubuntu17?
[11:24] <sebsebseb> subthalamus: then its just updated usaul software, but the 16.04 versions for now should be fine enough for most people
[11:24] <cfhowlett> nowy_linux_, your choice.
[11:24] <nowy_linux_> But I can't install any ubuntu on my Asus :(
[11:25] <bekks> nowy_linux_: so you cannot install Ubuntu 17.04 as well.
[11:25] <sebsebseb> nowy_linux_: which version hasd the issues ?
[11:25] <nowy_linux_> I wanted install mate 16.10
[11:25] <sebsebseb> nowy_linux_: have you tried 17.04 ?
[11:25] <subthalamus> thanks for the advice, I'll just add PPAs for the stuff that isn't by default available than
[11:25] <cfhowlett> nowy_linux_, 16.10 has 9 months of support. 9 MONTHS.
[11:25] <subthalamus> and I'll wait out the next lts, will the naming loop back A?
[11:26] <nowy_linux_> I didn't try 17.04
[11:26] <cfhowlett> subthalamus, unknow.
[11:26] <sebsebseb> subthalamus: next LTS should be interesitng actsaully since its going back to GNOME 3
[11:26] <sebsebseb> properly
[11:26] <nowy_linux_> But I tryied 16.04
[11:26] <sebsebseb> subthalamus: 17.10 is probably a GNOME 3 release as well, but that's not confirmed yet
[11:26] <nowy_linux_> And it was still like now
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> yes unity will be dropped
[11:26] <FManTropyx> subthalamus, I am currently on 16.04.2 (upgraded automatically from the original 16.04) and I am not planning to upgrade to the non-LTS releases at least yet
[11:26] <subthalamus> I havn't been a big fan of kde or gnome in a while so...
[11:26] <cfhowlett> nowy_linux_, what fails?
[11:27] <sebsebseb> subthalamus:  well 16.04 LTS has unity 7 supported untill 2021
[11:27] <subthalamus> I absolutely hated unity
[11:27] <sebsebseb> subthalamus: apparnatly it will go in some universe repo for later releases though.
[11:27] <sebsebseb> well use some other interface then,  lots to choose from :)
[11:27] <nowy_linux_> This is my problem https://youtu.be/KZyggKClCJY
[11:27] <subthalamus> sebsebseb: exactly, always have
[11:27] <FManTropyx> hmm, will it be possible to still use Unity on 18.04?
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> rf
[11:28] <EriC^^> FManTropyx: yeah, it'll be in the universe repo i read
[11:28] <sebsebseb> FManTropyx: apparanty its going to go into the universe repo, so that means yes
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> FManTropyx  i guess will remain available in the repos
[11:28] <FManTropyx> thank you * 3
[11:28] <subthalamus> sebsebseb: what is the most popular among you folks?
[11:28] <sebsebseb> FManTropyx: unity 7 that is,  unity 8  is just well dropped it seems
[11:28] <subthalamus> cinnamon, awesome, icewm?
[11:29] <sebsebseb> subthalamus:  I like GNOME 3,  Unity 7 and unity 8,  and I like Mate, but I am also impressed with the newer budige interface, try that maybe
[11:29] <sebsebseb> subthalamus: Ubuntu Budgie has an offical 17.04 version now as well
[11:29] <subthalamus> will do, thanks
[11:29] <nowy_linux_> I will try install ubuntu 17
[11:30] <cfhowlett> nowy_linux_, could be a graphics issue.  try booting in nomodeset
[11:30] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | nowy_linux_
[11:30] <sebsebseb> nowy_linux_: yeah  run 16.04  since its Long Term Support, or try 17.04
[11:32] <draxxxeus> Hi, I have a ruby project and i used to use ruby-pkg-tools on Ubuntu 12.04 to build debian out of it. Now in Ubuntu 14.04, the package ruby-pkg-tools is unavailable. What is the correct way to build a debian from a Ruby project now?
[11:33] <d3bug> I have a couple of questions...  1. Is there a way to boot into Ubuntu in pure console mode with networking enabled?  and 2. is Kernel 4.7+ available?
[11:33] <EriC^^> d3bug: which ubuntu?
[11:34] <d3bug> EriC^^: 16.04? I think it is
[11:34] <d3bug> EriC^^ how about question 1?
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> !text | d3bug
[11:35] <EriC^^> d3bug: sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[11:35] <EriC^^> !mainline | d3bug for the kernel
[11:35] <d3bug> MonkeyDust:  it boots in text mode but still tries to run the DM... I want it to not to try running it.
[11:38] <d3bug> you see, the issue is the gui will simply not work on my system right now because I have an RX480 (Radeon) and you need Kernel 4.7 or above.  so the DM just displays absolutely nothing.  so I need to get to PURE console to use apt to upgrade the kernel.
[11:39] <d3bug> I have tried passing "text" to the kernel which works.... till it gets to the init and tries running the display manager (gdm I think)
[11:39] <d3bug> then I am toast after that
[11:41] <ioria> d3bug, do you want to login direcly in console ?
[11:42] <d3bug> yes
[11:42] <d3bug> no gui at all
[11:42] <ioria> d3bug,  16.04 ?
[11:42] <d3bug> yeah
[11:42] <ioria> d3bug,  sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[11:43] <d3bug> ioria... the problem is, I cannot get a display to see that... how do i get to a point where I can type that... I have no display
[11:43] <ioria> d3bug,  do you get to the login screen ?
[11:43] <d3bug> no
[11:43] <ducasse> d3bug: you can't get a tty with ctrl+alt+f1?
[11:43] <d3bug> no display at all after gdm runs
[11:44] <d3bug> ducasse:  that's a good idea... I don't know.
[11:44] <qswz> how to upgrade from 16.10 to 17.04?
[11:44] <DeaDSouL> Hi, is anyone one familiar with 'T' file permission? (output of `ls -lah` is 'drwxrw-r-T 1 root users   90 Feb 10 23:18 My_Folder')
[11:44] <ioria> d3bug,  try to open a console
[11:44] <d3bug> how many VTYs are there under Ubuntu?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> qswz, sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:44] <qswz> thanks ok
[11:44] <qswz> oh the popup show when doing dofware updates
[11:45] <qswz> brb then, thanks
[11:45] <indistylo> Is there a bug in android-sdk installed on ubuntu 14.04, It was filling the disk and give warning , Filesystem root full , when i deleted android-sdk folder it free 20% space on the disk, could core dump filling up disk be the reason? For more info see: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24400217/
[11:46] <d3bug> I'll give it a shot and see what happens
[11:46] <d3bug> ty
[11:46] <nico202> Hi, just upgraded from 16.10 to 17.04 and internet stopped working as it should. I can resolve a domain (ping shows the right ip) but the ping freezes for most sites. Ie. google.it always works, amazon.it does not. But the ip is resolved correctly so I don't know where it is failing. Pinging local domains also always work and other computer on the same network are working as expected
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> nico202  wifi or cable?
[11:47] <nico202> MonkeyDust: wifi
[11:48] <nico202> MonkeyDust: it's using iwlwifi driver, the connection speed is 54Mb/s and copying files from a local server works well
[11:49] <netseeker> hello
[11:52] <ioria> nico202, do you still have the 16.10 kernel ?
[11:54] <nico202> ioria: trying to boot with 4.8
[11:54] <ioria> nico202, ok
[11:57] <nico202> ioria: still the same, but disabling ipv6 info in /etc/hosts (::1, ff02::1 etc) seems to have done the job. However I can't understand why this is happening
[11:58] <ioria> nico202, give a look at dmesg and syslog
[11:58] <ioria> nico202,  like dmesg | grep  <your_interface>
[11:59] <ioria> nico202,  oe better  dmesg | grep  iwlwifi
[12:00] <nico202> ioria: (iwlwifi) L1 enabled, LTR disabled. Disabling ht/vht due to WEP/TKIP use
[12:00] <jonsaint> hi all. im new to ubuntu and want to know how to remove a programme. ive gone into software centre and clicked remove but it wont delete.
[12:00] <nico202> ioria: (interface name) send auth, authenticated, associated
[12:01] <nico202> joisaint: sudo apt-get remove program-name
[12:02] <jonsaint> tried that but it cant find programme. its called ubuntu social kit im trying to remove
[12:03] <ioria> nico202, if using  NetworkManager, try to set IpV6 to 'ignore'
[12:03]  * qswz hopes he won't have network issues after upgrade
[12:03] <nico202> ioria: already did
[12:04] <bartek> hiho
[12:04] <nico202> jonsaint: it's called ubuntu-social-kit, https://askubuntu.com/questions/904300/i-want-to-uninstall-ubuntu-social-kit-compleatly
[12:04] <jonsaint> that page wont load?
[12:05] <nico202> jonsaint: strange. However, it's just sudo apt remove --purge   ubuntu-social-kit
[12:07] <jonsaint> unable to locate it?
[12:11] <netseeker> I have a question about ldap and apache. I could integrate Apache and LDAP and my authentication is based on LDAP at the moment. But I  want to have my authorization handled by LDAP as well, since I have several groups and folders, say G1 has access to F1 and G2 has access to F2. but Apache doesn't care about authorization at all and just throws access is denied error.
[12:12] <nico202> ioria: thanks, I'll stick with this config hoping it will just work(tm)
[12:13] <Z0up> Hey, I have some trouble with my multimonitor setup
[12:14] <Z0up> Anyone down to help?
[12:14] <cfhowlett> !ask | Z0up
[12:15] <xbonesx> which file loads when grub start ubuntu? grubx64.efi or shimx64.efi?
[12:15] <xbonesx> on a efi system
[12:15] <xbonesx> an*
[12:16] <netseeker> @ubottu can you help me?
[12:17] <cfhowlett> netscape101, ubottu is a bot.
[12:18] <BluesKaj> netseeker:  but we living helpers  probly can
[12:18] <sebsebseb> !bot
[12:18] <FManTropyx> hm, I tried to start an application, but nothing came out of it
[12:18] <Z0up> So I've tried to add a third monitor (1600x1200) to my setup (21:9 at 912p and 16:9 at 1050p), but when I try to run them all at this resolutions I get the following "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied" "could not set the configuration for CRTC 80" and
[12:18] <Z0up>
[12:18] <Z0up> I am currently trying to use another monitor that I recently got (Dell 2001FP at 1200x1600 portrait) in addition to my other 2 monitors (21:9 LG at 2160x912 (used at this resolution for bandwidth reasons) and Apple Cinema at 1680x1050).
[12:18] <Z0up> When I try to run them at these respective resolutions I get the following message
[12:18] <Z0up> "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied" "could not set the configuration for CRTC 80"
[12:18] <Z0up> And
[12:19] <netseeker> I really need to know is it possible to have a fully-fledged ACL using apache and LDAP or not. mostly for managing my files/folders
[12:21] <xbonesx> which file loads when grub starts ubuntu? grubx64.efi or shimx64.efi?
[12:22] <ioria> xbonesx, if you have secure boot, the latter
[12:23] <thiras> any decision on when snap packages will be default?
[12:23] <xbonesx> ya i just found it on the net i've been looking for a while and finally found it
[12:23] <xbonesx> thanks for the reply
[12:23] <ioria> ok
[12:23] <xbonesx> ioria: would you have any experience in finding out the GUID of an installation?
[12:24] <ioria> xbonesx, guid is gpt, as far as i know
[12:25] <xbonesx> ioria: Correct, I need to add an entry for grub to my win boot mgr but I cant seem to find the unique identifier number
[12:26] <xbonesx> I imagine this number is universal across OSs that use GPT
[12:26] <xbonesx> or perhaps its referred to as the UUID on linux
[12:27] <xbonesx> yep UUID=GUID
[12:27] <ioria> xbonesx, for that you use sudo blkid
[12:27] <xbonesx> blkid returns the UUID?
[12:27] <ioria> yep
[12:27] <xbonesx> block id?
[12:28] <ioria> yes
[12:28] <xbonesx> alright that should be interchangable with the GUID I assume?
[12:28] <xbonesx> interchangeable*
[12:34] <ducasse> xbonesx: guid is called partuuid in lsblk, iirc
[12:35] <xbonesx> ducasse: ok so say I was trying to retrieve this number so I could use it in identifying in win boot mgr, those numbers should work?
[12:38] <transhuman_> hi is there a reason ubuntu 17.04 wont work from usb drive by using dd if=ubuntu-17....iso of=/dev/sdd bs=512 ?
[12:38] <transhuman_> or cp ubuntu-17...iso /dev/sdd
[12:39] <netseeker> anyone experienced with LDAP and Apache?
[12:40] <ducasse> xbonesx: don't know about windows, but i pass the kernel the root fs with partuuid on my arch install.
[12:41] <transhuman_> netseeker, I have experience with apache but not ldap (except active directory..which I dont think is what you mean) sorry
[12:41] <tpw_rules> so i woke up this morning and my system was turned off. i'm not exactly sure why. is there a way to find out? it should not have lost power since it's a VM
[12:41] <xbonesx> ya it uses the GUID and the path to load the kernel for windows
[12:41] <transhuman_> tpw_rules, was it only the vm that was shutoff?
[12:42] <tpw_rules> transhuman_: yeah.
[12:42] <transhuman_> did it crash or gracefully shut down
[12:42] <tpw_rules> i don't know
[12:42] <tpw_rules> it's a vps and my provider just said "powered off". i've asked them if they did something but i want to check my end too to see if there's a kernel panic or something in a log somewhere
[12:42] <ducasse> tpw_rules: do you have persistent journald logging?
[12:43] <tpw_rules> uhhhh i have a relatively stock install of 16.04.2
[12:43] <tpw_rules> but i'm pretty sure
[12:43] <transhuman_> how about /var/logs/ tpw_rules
[12:43] <ducasse> tpw_rules: you could try /var/log/kern.log.1
[12:43] <ducasse> tpw_rules: but if you turn on persistent journald logging you get much more detailed logging across boots.
[12:43] <tpw_rules> it just has a bunch of notices that it blocked packets
[12:44] <tpw_rules> i mean this is the first time it's happened and it's been running nonstop for several months
[12:48] <ducasse> tpw_rules: is it uptodate and running the latest kernel?
[12:48] <tpw_rules> probably not quite
[12:51] <ducasse> tpw_rules: see this link under 'persistent logging', it should at least give you more detailed info if this happens again
[12:54] <flo__> hello..i need to know the content of /etc/lsbrelease file for ubuntu 17.04 as i'm triyng to use the intel drivers update tool under kde neon with kernel 4.10. can someone tell me the contents of that file?
[12:56] <Joker2017> hello.. I am using Ubuntu Budgie now. Why is  Firefox  not available in it?
[12:57] <Joker2017> can I install Firefox in Budgie? how?
[12:57] <cfhowlett> Joker2017, different distros, different default apps.  want ffox?  install ffox.  sudo apt install firefox
[12:57] <Joker2017> great. thanks a lot. Really liked Budgie. It is awesome.
[13:00] <Joker2017> Budgie seems to be quite snappy. Is it faster than Xubuntu?
[13:00] <Joker2017> or less resource hungry?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Joker2017, easy enough to test for yourself.  you can install multiple Desktop
[13:01] <cfhowlett> environments on any ubuntu.  then switch/test
[13:01] <qswz> https://d1qm1cpzmhmgab.cloudfront.net/public/files/WPS8WDvwiwAE7u-t/regular why the upgrade to 17.04 disabled those ppa's?
[13:01] <Joker2017> don't want to mess the things up.
[13:01] <Joker2017> if installing multiple DEs cause conflicts, don't wanna do that.
[13:02] <cfhowlett> qswz, ppa's are disabled on upgrading.  re-enable them and upgrade away
[13:02] <qswz> ok thanks
[13:08] <qswz> I'm on node 7.9.0 that's fresh
[13:08] <qswz> oops wrong chan
[13:11] <IIIdefconIII_> does anyone have experience with controllig linux / kodi with voice? of so what is a good recommendation to use, i tried vox with everghost but the regconation is really bad
[13:13] <ducasse> IIIdefconIII_: you might want to try ##linux also if you don't get a response here
[13:17] <Guest94710> Hello, anyone know how to add systray icon in tint2 panel ?
[13:17] <IIIdefconIII_> TY already did that ducasse
[13:21] <ducasse> Guest94710: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/tint2#Application_launchers
[13:25] <Guest94710> ducasse, i have it in launchers, but have to move it in system tray something like ""logout.desktop" icon
[13:26] <lambda> hello
[13:26] <rifter> lambda what is your question?
[13:27] <transhuman_> anyone able to help with the problem of not being able to build usb installer on debian/ubuntu for 17.04 dd or cp dont seem to make a bootable usb, anyone know why?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> try  a different USB transhuman_?
[13:30] <ducasse> Guest94710: the system tray is where running applications put their applets, you would need some program that does that
[13:31] <transhuman_> yes tried different usb drives
[13:32] <transhuman_> I am beginning to think this is an acer firmware problem
[13:32] <ducasse> transhuman_: what happens on boot?
[13:37] <Guest94710> ducasse, i have to edit tint2rc but can't  find anything for logout button https://gitlab.com/o9000/tint2/blob/master/doc/tint2.md#system-tray
[13:37] <w9qbj> transhuman_: it also seems to depend on the USB maker, Snadisk works, but PNY have always failed for me, they seem to have the boot and partition table locked.
[13:37] <aethelweard> What's up everyone?
[13:38] <w9qbj> we're answering Qs what's yours
[13:38] <aethelweard> No question.  Just playing with IRC.
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> aethelweard  not here, this is the support channel
[13:39] <transhuman_> w9qbj, thanks for that tidbit of info, unfortunately this is a sandisk, in fact with past versions of ubuntu this method has worked. so either this is an acer machine problem (which is where I am leaning) or its a 17.04 problem which I will test by  making a 16.04 on a windows machine using uinetboot
[13:40] <transhuman_> thanks
[13:41] <Guest94710> ducasse, it's look like this https://paste.ubuntu.com/24400802/
[13:48] <marvin2> if I type ls ~/d* it will list all the files in ~/data/, instead of listing all the files starting with d in ~/. can I change this behavior?
[13:50] <rifter> transhuman_ are you sure your bios settings are correct? You mentioned a potential firmware problem. I know with my machine I missed some that were not so obvious at first
[13:50] <tomreyn> marvin2: if you want to list all file in ~/data you'd best rnu 'ls ~/data'
[13:50] <marvin2> tomreyn I want to list all the files and directories starting with d in ~/
[13:50] <rifter> marvin2 you need to do ls -d ~/d*
[13:51] <tomreyn> marvin2: if you'd like to list all files in directories starting with a d, you'd run 'ls ~/d*/*'
[13:51] <rifter> marvin2 that will list the files and directories starting with d instead of walking the directories
[13:51] <c0mrade> what kind of project do you guys recommend to start working on, something that would both give me experience, has many challenges and wide range of technologies involved and maybe make some money but not straight away, am interested.
[13:52] <pd007> rifter: this will list dirs too
[13:52] <sebsebseb> thiras: not any time soon
[13:52] <transhuman_> rifter, not that I am aware of but the machine in question has a problem acknowledging internal hard drives anyways, perhaps its more of a software problem than a hardware problem with the acer itself, I will call acer and see if this is a known issue or if the motherboard has a bad capacitor or something...assuming its not ubuntu at this time or the process I used to create the usb
[13:52] <marvin2> that does work, thanks
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> c0mrade  a GUI for NFS
[13:52] <rifter> pd007 yeah I am thinking how to not list the directories
[13:52] <tomreyn> !ot | c0mrade
[13:52] <transhuman_> thanks
[13:52] <ruh> hi
[13:52] <sebsebseb> thiras: for snaps, oh i was scrolled up
[13:52] <sebsebseb> ruh: hi
[13:52] <ruh> thanks
[13:52] <pd007> marvin2, if the files have a fiel extension: ls ~/d*.*
[13:52] <rifter> pd007 I would normally do something like ls -ld ~/d* | grep -v ^d
[13:53] <ruh> ad
[13:53] <tomreyn> or just use find
[13:53] <rifter> but that gives you the long listing and then if you want the filenames you'd have to use awk or something
[13:54] <rifter> tomreyn yeah but I always had trouble convincing find to do a depth of just the one directory for some reason
[13:54] <rifter> probably a PEBKAC error
[13:55] <Draygh> 010
[13:55] <rifter> you could always pipe it to a while loop that uses type -d and eliminates the directories, I guess
[13:55] <tomreyn> rifter: find ~ -maxdepth 1 -type d -iname 'd*'
[13:56] <tomreyn> marvin2: ^
[13:56] <rifter> tomreyn that would find directories though
[13:56] <tomreyn> rifter: oh he wantef files? so -type f
[13:57] <pd007> marvin2: find ~/ -type f  -printf "%f\n" | grep  ^d
[13:58] <rifter> tomreyn that would find directories too since they are files
[13:58] <rifter> cme to think of it
[13:59] <pd007> find ~/ -type f  -printf "%f\n" | grep  ^d    does the job if its just about listing them
[13:59] <rifter> plus you used iname instead of name, so capital D is included
[13:59] <rifter> dunno if that is what he wants
[13:59] <rifter> on the plus side maxdepth worked. I dunno what I did wrong with it before
[14:00] <rifter> pd007 that does seem to work
[14:01] <tomreyn> find ~ -maxdepth 1 -iname 'd*' -\( -type f -or -type d -\
[14:01] <rifter> marvin2 do what pd007 says .. I just tested that and it worked for me
[14:02] <tomreyn> find ~ -maxdepth 1 -iname 'd*' -\( -type f -or -type d -\)
[14:02] <XATRIX> Hi guys, i need to install unbuntu on Prestigio Visconte V transformer. I made it, but the trouble is, when the screen switched to portrait mode, my touchscreen sensor sends a correct touches, but when it switched to landscape, i have wrong coordinates.. Any idea how can i tell fix X server touchscreen driver ?
[14:02] <tomreyn> that rather, last parentheses wa smissing
[14:02] <rifter> tomreyn that doesn't work and you're still using iname. pd007 seems to have the right way
[14:03] <tomreyn> rifter: the last but one would not work, the last one would, and yes, 'iname', which can be easily changed into 'name' if needed.
[14:04] <tomreyn> rifter: and no, pd007's does not what marvin2 seemed to ask for
[14:04] <rifter> tomreyn using your latest command, I get this error: find: unknown predicate `- '
[14:04] <pd007> XATRIX, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1972447 try this
[14:04] <rifter> tomreyn actually it does. It displayed all the files and not the directories
[14:04] <tomreyn> rifter: this command? find ~ -maxdepth 1 -iname 'd*' -\( -type f -or -type d -\)
[14:05] <tomreyn> here is does exactly this:
 tomreyn I want to list all the files and directories starting with d in ~/
[14:05] <rifter> tomreyn that command actually .. I guess I miscopied it, displayed the directories for me
[14:05] <tomreyn> rifter: it shows files and directories
[14:06] <tomreyn> if it doesn't on your end, something is wrong with your shell
[14:06] <rifter> tomreyn he does not want the directories!
[14:06] <oliverio> How long, roughly, does it take to check HD badblock with size of 3TB? I used the command badblock -o badblocks_encontrados.dat -n -v / dev / sde will do 5 days and is not yet finished.
[14:06] <pd007> marvin2,  find ~/  -printf "%f\n" | grep ^d if you want the dir listed to
[14:06] <pd007> hmmm wait that lists the files in the dirs too :/
[14:06] <XATRIX> pd007, thanks
[14:07] <tomreyn> rifter: you're wrong, based on the quote i posted
[14:07] <kalamun_> irc.chlame.net
[14:07] <rifter> tomreyn and when I did find ~ -maxdepth 1 -iname 'd*' -\( -type f -or -type d -\) it gave me just the directories
[14:07] <pd007> tomreyn, marvin2, rifter: find ~/  -maxdepth 1 -printf "%f\n" | grep ^d
[14:07] <pd007> just mix it!
[14:07] <rifter> pd007 your commands worked correctly
[14:08] <rifter> tomreyn I missed your quote, but thanks for trying to help
[14:08] <tomreyn> well since marvin2 is no longer reading this i wont spend more time on it
[14:08] <pd007> never too late to learn something :D
[14:08] <rifter> ah I see now, well heck then you could just use find with -f then
[14:09] <rifter> you don't need the other junk
[14:09] <akinode> hey, can anyone recomment software to write down math like they did here? http://www.deeplearningbook.org/contents/linear_algebra.html
[14:09] <frederic> hello
[14:09] <akinode> I'm using ubuntu 16.04
[14:09] <pd007> akinode: latex
[14:09] <frederic> i uses ubuntu 16.10 mate
[14:10] <frederic> byebye
[14:10] <pd007> !info texlive | akinode
[14:10] <cfhowlett> akinode, http://www.deeplearningbook.org/contents/linear_algebra.html
[14:11] <cfhowlett> tex latex
[14:11] <akinode> yeah, i already installed that. Is there some manual that i could use though? What IDE should I eb using_
[14:11] <this_self> Hi guys! Who are using snap to install packages?
[14:11] <pd007> you have eclipse running? akinode
[14:11] <this_self> I have obtained the error but cannot find solution using google :)
[14:11] <akinode> no but i can install it
[14:12] <cfhowlett> this_self, useless query. state YOUR issues and YOUR specs
[14:12] <pd007> akinode:https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX
[14:12] <pd007> about how to use it
[14:12] <akinode> pd007 alright thanks!
[14:12] <pd007> eclipse has a quite nice plugin for latex: http://texlipse.sourceforge.net/
[14:12] <this_self> I trying to install something (for example sudo snap install uappexplorer-cli) and obtaine always error: cannot perform the following tasks: download snap "core" from channel stable
[14:13] <rifter> actually if you want all the files and directories the first thing I said would have worked .. ls -d ~/d*
[14:13] <this_self> my internet connection is well
[14:13] <rifter> anyway an interesting conversation
[14:13] <rifter> ls -d ~/d* ~/D* would get both cases
[14:14] <pd007> have packages that are held back this_self?
[14:15] <rifter> actually ignore that
[14:15] <rifter> obviously I am not awake enough :P
[14:15] <this_self> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24400952/ this error I have when I try to install any package from snap. On pastebin more information about snap version and ubuntu version
[14:16] <sasha_> I installed ubuntu 17.04 but I have problem with starting it http://prnt.sc/exgcee
[14:16] <this_self> of course that packages which I tried to install from snap are there (for example when I try to search them using snap find...)
[14:18] <rifter> I stand corrected again ls -d ~/d* ~/D* did work. I was misreading what the first one pd007 was telling me. Leave off the ~/D* if you only want lower case. I do think though I am still too groggy to answer questions
[14:19] <pd007> this_self do that in a docker container?
[14:20] <this_self> pd007, ubuntu installed on my vmware workstation (of course with open-vm-tools and xserver-video-vmware)
[14:20] <this_self> could be the root of problem in it?
[14:21] <marvin2> on my mounted ntfs hdd directories have ugly light blue on light green font that is very hard to read. how can I make them be same color as regular directories, blue on black?
[14:22] <pd007> this_self: just reading the bugs filed about that issue. https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1632130, https://bugs.launchpad.net/software-center-agent/+bug/1617765
[14:22] <marvin2> I am using ls --color=auto
[14:23] <pd007> thats a permission thing marvin2
[14:23] <tomreyn> sasha_: so one thing that's happening there is that your sda2 partition contains a file system which is corrupt, and auto-repair takes place (this is successful most of the time)
[14:23] <tomreyn> ...and it is here, too
[14:24] <this_self> pd007, I read it already. The last comment was "Using snapd 2.22.6", I'm using the same version but it's doesn't works. I thought what somebody here has the some troubles )))
[14:24] <pd007> marvin2: look at this. perhaps it hgelps https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/176179/disable-of-coloring-for-ls-on-ntfs-filesystems
[14:24] <this_self> but thanks for response. Will try to resolve it myself
[14:24] <marvin2> pd007 what permission does blue on green indicate?
[14:24] <pd007> 777
[14:25] <pd007> marvin2, use ll or ls -al to see the permissions
[14:25] <tomreyn> sasha_: nouveau is the open source nvidia graphics driver, it ran into an issue there, but i do not know whether it is critical (it sounds like it could be due to "FAULT"). this may stop X (an the graphical desktop) from working.
[14:25] <MWM> Hi I need help looking at an external drive from a virtual machine.  Host and Guest are both Ubuntu (host 16.04 and guest 14.04)
[14:25] <sasha_> So I must install Win10 Omg..
[14:25] <tomreyn> sasha_: finally it reports that the bluetooth firmware failed to load, but this is probably less of an issue for now.
[14:26] <marvin2> pd007 can I disable special coloring for 777?
[14:26] <tomreyn> sasha_: i dont think you need to reort to windows just because the system currently does not boot to the graphical desktop on linux.
[14:27] <MWM> the external drive shows as a block device and not a USB device in the host, and the guest shows no connected USB
[14:27] <tomreyn> *reSort
[14:27] <pd007> MWM virtualbox? kvm? xen? what is the vm running on/in?
[14:27] <MWM> The newest virtualbox.
[14:27] <sasha_> I will try install ubuntu once again
[14:28] <pd007> marivin2: ls seems not to have that option. --color seems to have only: always, never, auto as options
[14:28] <MWM> Host OS is Ubuntu 16.04 and guest is Ubuntu 14.04
[14:28] <tomreyn> sasha_: does the 17.04 live cd / usb work?
[14:28] <pd007> MWM: install the additions, enable the usb controller, pass the usb drive to the vm
[14:28] <sasha_> It was usb
[14:28] <tomreyn> sasha_: also give 16.04 LTS a try - i would actually recommend that over 17.04 for less linux experienced users.
[14:29] <MWM> Additions are installed.  I cannot enable anything except the 1.1 controller. 2.0 controller gives "invalid settings" warning
[14:29] <pd007> MWM: sorry, not additions - the extension pack
[14:29] <MWM> Ahh! I forgot about the extension pack!  Thanks!
[14:30] <pd007> MWM: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.0.32/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-5.0.32-112930.vbox-extpack
[14:30] <tomreyn> sasha_: or you could try to fix the current installation., but you'll need to provide a lot more information: how did you install, were there errors during installation, which hardware / computer model are oyu installing to, which ubuntu install media did you use etc.
[14:30] <pd007> MWM make sure its the exact version you need!
[14:30] <sasha_> I'm using Asus gl 752vw
[14:31] <sasha_> I7 6700HQ, gtx 960m 2 GB and 16 GB ram
[14:31] <MWM> pd007:  Will do.  I think this will likely solve the issue, but Ill stop back in if it does not .  THanks again!
[14:33] <tomreyn> sasha_: try this: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?81702-Linux-installation-in-ASUS-ROG-GL552VW-DH71&p=564158&viewfull=1#post564158
[14:34] <marvin2> pd007 ls manual says to use dircolors (which sets LS_COLORS) to change default coloring, but I I can't figure out which entry sets coloring of 777 permission
[14:45] <mac_nibblet> I'm having some problems after upgrading to 17.04, my encrypted drive goes into a read only state that crashes the entire OS
[14:46] <mac_nibblet> These are the kind of errors i'm seeing  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/1569008
[14:46] <mac_nibblet> I was thinking of reinstalling my laptop without the encryption, but I cannot even boot the live usb drive, it fails with "Cannot start network name resolution" and just hangs
[14:47] <mac_nibblet> Also tried forcing fsck on the partition, didn't help either
[14:48] <mac_nibblet> Anyone have any ideas ?
[14:48] <pynki> mac_nibblet, you are booting the live and it crashes?
[14:48] <mac_nibblet> pynki, It hangs
[14:49] <mac_nibblet> Trying to start the Network name resolve, i'm assuming it's DNS related ?
[14:49] <MWM> check the md5 of your download and remake your live USB ?
[14:50] <Skyrider> Is there anyway I can create a SFTP user, but lock the user to a specific directory outside of home?
[14:50] <Skyrider> User won't get any home directory.
[14:50] <mac_nibblet> Not sure MwM it's liveusb related
[14:51] <pynki> Skyrider, https://askubuntu.com/questions/598870/limit-sftp-user-access-to-specified-directory maybe this helps?
[14:51] <MWM> mac_nibblet : Ive had varied troubles with the live USB's from a corrupted download.  I have almost always found that the download was corrpted with ANY problem.  Its worth checking your ISO just in case
[14:51] <Skyrider> Sweet, thanks
[14:52] <cfhowlett> mac_nibblet, pro-tip.  do not DL the ubuntu .iso.  Use torrents.
[14:52] <mac_nibblet> i'm using torrents
[14:53] <tomreyn> also that's probably not the issue, rather that his ecryptfs on permanenet storage has run full
[14:53] <mac_nibblet> Interesting
[14:53] <mac_nibblet> the sha256sum does not match
[14:53] <tomreyn> okay, i stand corrected
[14:53] <MWM> Ive installed the extension pack and guest additions for virtualbox and still cannot get USB passthrough.   I can acess it in the Host OS
[14:55] <mac_nibblet> tomreyn, what could cause that ?
[14:55] <tomreyn> mac_nibblet: what could cause what?
[14:55] <mac_nibblet> the sha256sum not matching ?
[14:56] <tomreyn> mac_nibblet: the sha256sum of what not matching what?
[14:56] <pynki> MWM: sudo VBoxManage list extpacks shows the extpack?
[14:56] <pynki> 'sudo VBoxManage list extpacks'
[14:56] <tomreyn> mac_nibblet: i can guess what you are trying to ask but i'm suggesting you ask more precise questions, it will help prevent you and anyone responding from jumping to conclusions.
[14:57] <pynki> MWM: 'usermod -aG vboxusers userName' might help
[14:58] <tomreyn> mac_nibblet: my guess right now is that you noticed that the shas256sum of an ubuntu install / live iso you downloaded does not match the one documented on ubuntu.com. and you are wondering how this could happen.
[14:58] <MWM> extension pack is listed.  To make sure I understand the command you listed "usermod -aG...."  I will be adding my user to the vboxusers group?
[14:58] <tomreyn> mac_nibblet: if so, this can happen for all kinds of network issues as well as storage media issues. which is why you should always check the checksum of a downloaded iso before putting it to use.
[14:58] <pynki> MWM: right
[15:00] <pynki> MWM: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch02.html#idm1051
[15:02] <akinode> pd007 hey, did you mean this extension to use eclipse with latex? http://texlipse.sourceforge.net/
[15:02] <pynki> akinode: yes i did
[15:03] <pynki> should be available over the marketplace too i think
[15:03] <pynki> not sure, the marketplace has problems here in china :/
[15:03] <akinode> is this a good way to learn how to use the software? Wouldn't it be more efficient to have real time execution of whatever I write?
[15:03] <akinode> like this one http://www.bakoma-tex.com/menu/linux.php
[15:04] <tomreyn> mac_nibblet: i further guess, based on the limited information you provided so far, that you're dealign with two issues: (a) the ecryptfs file system overlay you have on your permanet storage (probably a hdd or ssd) has become partially corrupt (possibly due to the unsderlying file system running full). (b) to recover from this situation, you downloaded a ubuntu installation / live iso which you are trying to boot from but the boot fails. you
[15:04] <tomreyn> have since determined that the sha256sum of the iso you downloaded does not match the one documented on ubuntu.com.
[15:05] <pynki> akinode: its a 'what you se is what you get' kind of thing as far as i can see. dont like these thigns since they hide from you what actually happens
[15:05] <pynki> and its hard to get help on that if you do not see and undertsand the generated code
[15:05] <tomreyn> mac_nibblet: if you still seek help, please confirm the above or correct it as needed.
[15:05] <akinode> so what would be the most efficient way to understand what I'm doing? Just read the wiki and use eclipse?
[15:06] <akinode> and constantly run the code manually to see if it does what I want it to?
[15:06] <pynki> akinode: eclipse renders it for you on every save operation into a pdf file
[15:06] <akinode> can i have the pdf file open and update at the same time?
[15:07] <pynki> yes
[15:07] <akinode> oh, cool! didn't know that, thanks
[15:07] <pynki> inside the eclipse as far as i could tell
[15:07] <cfhowlett> akinode, no.  you edit the original then output the pdf
[15:07] <pynki> as soon as he saves in texlipse-eclipse it will update the pdf
[15:08] <marvin2> I have a bash script that works, but I want it to echo all the commands it is executing. can this be done without manually printing every command?
[15:08] <cfhowlett> I stand corrected.  thanks pynki
[15:08] <pynki> if he is using the integrated viewer or evince or some' liek that
[15:09] <ducasse> marvin2: 'set -x' at the top of the script
[15:11] <Skyrider> pynki:
[15:11] <Skyrider> Tried.. but getting Error:	Network error: Software caused connection abort in the end.
[15:13] <pynki> Skyrider, commandline sftp?
[15:13] <pynki> or filezilla or....
[15:13] <tomreyn> marvin2: add "set -e" early in the script
[15:14] <marvin2> ducasse, tomreyn thanks that works
[15:14] <marvin2> actually it doesn't! i am running a bash script
[15:15] <marvin2> nm, -x does work
[15:15] <pynki> Skyrider, try adding 'ServerAliveInterval 60' at the client machine and 'ClientAliveInterval 60' on the server to the /etc/ssh/ssh_config files
[15:16] <tomreyn> marvin2: sorry, i meant -x, not -e, and i had missed ducasse's earlier reply
[15:17] <tomreyn> marvin2: this is documented in bash(1)  (run 'man bash') in the 'SHELL BUILTIN COMMANDS' section under 'set'
[15:18] <pynki> Skyrider, not sure if the alive interval thing will work as decribed. have a look here too https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3026/what-options-serveraliveinterval-and-clientaliveinterval-in-sshd-config-exac
[15:20] <marvin2> tomreyn cool, I'll give bash(1) a look
[15:22] <Skyrider> pynki: Filezilla.
[15:23] <Skyrider> Do I 'have' to use ssh for this btw?
[15:23] <Skyrider> Isn't there any package that can easily add users/groups without using so many command lines?
[15:23] <pynki> Skyrider, no, do you see some like this in filezilla? 'Error: Unable to open .: permission denied'
[15:23] <Skyrider> "Could not connect to server"
[15:25] <MWM> https://askubuntu.com/questions/616042/user-groups-and-advanced-settings-in-15-04
[15:26] <Skyrider> MWM: That's for desktop though.. if I'm not mistaken.
[15:26] <Skyrider> I'm using a server, no desktop installed.
[15:27] <MWM> my mistake.  Im only half looking and I thought I could give a hand.  :)
[15:31] <pynki> Skyrider: no. useradd groupadd usermod are doing the job quite well. you can wrap them in scripts if you need mass account creation etc. but i don't think there is a management tool for the commandline that somehow simulates a gui
[15:32] <giovanni> ciao a tutti
[15:34] <pynki> !info gpasswd | Skyrider
[15:34] <MWM> okay I am tired of USB and virtual box.  Would it work to add this drive as a smaba share in the host and then access it from the VM?
[15:34] <pynki> :/
[15:35] <MWM> or is there a better solution that does not involve USB passthrough?
[15:36] <compdoc> you just storing files? samba is great
[15:36] <rud0lf> you just need to add yourself to "vboxusers" group
[15:36] <rud0lf> then logout/login
[15:36] <rud0lf> worked like a charm for me
[15:36] <MWM> I have :  installed the guest additions ISO.  Installed the extension pack.  added my user to vbox users on the host.  Im still getting no devices available for passthrough
[15:37] <MWM> ?  Hmmm... I logged out and back into the VM, but didnt think of it in the guest....lets give that a shot.  THanks
[15:38] <MWM> er... didnt think of it in the HOST that is.  Thanks
[15:40] <pynki> MWM: use newgrp and start vbox from that terminal if you cannot afford to logout
[15:41] <compdoc> passthrough is too much work, and requires the right mobo
[15:41] <fun> Hi
[15:42] <pynki> but the only way to get certain things inside the vm
[15:42] <MWM> Login/logout did the trick.  USB devices are visible and available for passthrough now.  Troubleshooting is awesome :)
[15:44] <MWM> Did the guy with the mismatched sha-hash ever reply?  I was curious to see his solution
[15:47] <pynki> nope
[15:47] <Crypto__> trivia quistion : Periodic Conference in many cities hosted by Trend Micro
[15:49] <DJones> Crypto__: And howis that Ubuntu support related, please seethe channeltopic /topic
[15:49] <klean> hi
[15:49] <paven> heyo
[15:50] <noob> ubuntu 17.04 looking good :)
[15:50] <Rapture> I have a script that takes a date at the end of running it like /usr/bin/./myscript YYYY-mm-dd but I don't get how to insert the current date like that to it automatically
[15:51] <rascal> Hey guys, i am working on project where i need to use alsa to playback some audio files. Maybe someone know how to change the programs volume via c++ code or bash? (Program volume, not master!)
[15:52] <bekks> Rapture: echo $(date +%Y-%m-%d)
[15:55] <pynki> rascal, 'amixer -D pulse sset Master 50%'
[15:55] <rascal> pynki, i need to avoid changing master volume
[15:57] <pynki> rascal, amixer --help should lead you to the right command
[15:59] <pynki> rascal, ohh - well that just sets channels. sorry. that will not bring you anywhere!
[15:59] <pynki> did not fully read your question
[16:00] <rascal> yeah, i see :/
[16:00] <casawi> come installare nvidia su debian 8
[16:01] <kang0> What's Linux n1
[16:01] <bekks> casawi: /j #debian please
[16:03] <pynki> rascal, have a look  at the dmix plugin for alsa. perhaps that can help
[16:04] <rascal> pynki, I will, thx :)
[16:08] <rizonz> damn I messed up my /boot or so, my vm keeps rebooting before starting, no grub menu as well
[16:08] <thyrix> hello! how can I use shadow socks in terminal?
[16:10] <pynki> rascal, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1028657#p1028657 might be interesting
[16:12] <pynki> thyrix, https://github.com/shadowsocks/shadowsocks/wiki/Using-Shadowsocks-with-Command-Line-Tools
[16:12] <pvl1> hey all, im getting a really weird issue where apt-get and dpkg arent extracting all of the file in a package. and ive verified they exist by extract the cached version
[16:12] <Rapture> bekks: thanks
[16:13] <thyrix> pynki: thanks!!
[16:18] <pynki> pvl1, 'dpkg -L whatever' confirms that files are missing?
[16:18] <pvl1> pynki: no the package is fine
[16:19] <pvl1> the files exist in the package, for sure
[16:19] <pynki> yeah. dpkg -L should show you all files installed
[16:19] <pynki> perhaps they are just in a weired place
[16:20] <pvl1> it lists the files installed, not existing
[16:20] <pvl1> again, ive extracted the cached package. the files in question are there
[16:21] <jeffrey_f> how to fix https://paste.ubuntu.com/24401730/
[16:22] <pynki> jeffrey_f, https://serverfault.com/questions/58363/my-unqualified-host-name-foo-bar-unknown-problem
[16:25] <carpediembaby> hello, i just installed ubuntu 16.04 and i can't seem to use a usb ethernet adapter
[16:25] <uebera||> Hi. Given "LANGUAGE=de:en_GB:fr:ja", is it possible that some applications interpret this from right to left? Or does this mean that some language packs (notably, the german/english ones) are broken/incomplete and you should use en_US as a third option in any case? (on one machine, I'm seeing password prompts in French, on another, I see apt/dpkg warnings in Japanese)
[16:26] <sebsebseb> carpediembaby: hmm
[16:26] <carpediembaby> i tried "ls /sys/class/net" and it shows me three "enp0s31f6  lo  wlp4s0"
[16:27] <sebsebseb> carpediembaby: wlp is probably wirelss
[16:27] <sebsebseb> enp  couod be your device I guess
[16:27] <carpediembaby> and dmesg shows the usb adapter as a usb hub (it is is also a hub) and not the ethernet adapter
[16:27] <pynki> carpediembaby, run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog" and plugin the adapter - any changes in the output? 'lsusb' shows the adapter?
[16:27] <pynki> enp might be the right guess
[16:29] <carpediembaby> pynki:When i plug in the usb, it doesn't change the output of /sys/class/net
[16:29] <pvl1> carpediembaby: how are you trying to use the hub
[16:29] <pvl1> er adapter exscuse me
[16:29] <carpediembaby> tail shows http://paste.ubuntu.com/24401774/
[16:30] <carpediembaby> pvl1: it is a usb hub + ethernet adapter. normally, when i plug it in with an ethernet jack, it connects as an ethernet adapter and i am able to connect to the internet
[16:30] <pvl1> uebera||: the latter sounds more realistic to me. what issues are you seeing?
[16:31] <pvl1> carpediembaby: dhclient enp0s31f6
[16:31] <pvl1> you probably need to configure network manager to automagically configure that interface
[16:31] <pynki> pvl1, carpediembaby is it an inateck device?
[16:32] <carpediembaby> pvl1: 1 enp0s31f6 is the fingerprint scanner
[16:32] <carpediembaby> pynki: the manufacturer is Anker
[16:32] <pvl1> whaaa it works over ethernet? thats kool
[16:33] <pvl1> so this adapter doesnt show up? what about without hub
[16:33] <pvl1> hub might not deliver enough power to the thing
[16:33] <pvl1> is it a powered hub
[16:33] <pynki> carpediembaby, is it pl;ugged into an usb3 port? is it a usb3 hub?
[16:33] <carpediembaby> pvl1: no, it is a simple usb connector, it works on other computers
[16:34] <pvl1> have you plugged it in strait
[16:34] <pvl1> without adapter
[16:34] <pynki> the hub includes the adapter, pvl1
[16:35] <carpediembaby> pvl1: its a usb hub + ethernet adapter which is plug and play. Looks like this : https://d2c6jjk3vnoatm.cloudfront.net/spree/products/5010/product/A7514041_ND01.jpg?1461123817
[16:35] <jeffrey_f> pynki: The /etc/hosts file now reads    <IP_ADDRESS>	localhost localhost.localdomain Foo-bar.  Still showing the error.  Procmail is also installed.  Would that be an issue?
[16:35] <pvl1> so it is a usb3.0 in a usb3.0 port?
[16:36] <carpediembaby> yes
[16:38] <pynki> carpediembaby, they have a driver for the 3.x kernel on their website https://d2c6jjk3vnoatm.cloudfront.net/spree/products/accessoies/153/D9E0693FA9E8164_linux0003-r8152.53-2.05.0.tar.bz2
[16:41] <carpediembaby> pynki: how do i install it?
[16:41] <pynki> i do not know! the manual of the product is a joke!
[16:43] <ikonia> if a driver exists for the 3.x kernel chances are it won't work in 4.x
[16:44] <ikonia> you need to contact the vendor and ask for a compatible version, or even better for them to submit it into the mainline kernel for upstream maintenance
[16:45] <pynki> i am quite sure the chinese factory brought that driver with the device!
[16:45] <carpediembaby> pynki, ikonia : this is strange, i have been using it on ubuntu 14.04 without issues (and installing drivers)
[16:45] <ikonia> carpediembaby: how did you install the driver
[16:45] <carpediembaby> i didn't
[16:45] <rizonz> how can this happen when the file exists ? ifup[736]: run-parts: failed to exec /etc/network/if-up.d/z90-route-ens3: No such file or directory
[16:45] <ikonia> carpediembaby: you just said "and installing drivers"
[16:45] <carpediembaby> it worked just like that
[16:46] <carpediembaby> ikonia: i meant without issues and without installing drivers
[16:46] <ikonia> carpediembaby: ok - so what chipset does the network card use
[16:48] <pvl1> and it wont compile
[16:48] <pvl1> rizonz: read permissions?
[16:48] <rizonz> pvl1: what do they need to be, the rights ?
[16:49] <tomreyn> pynki: what made you think that the driver you pointed to works for the device carpediembaby has?
[16:50] <pynki> rizonz, remember the rights, set them to 777 and see if its the issue or not. think about the specific rights later ;)
[16:50] <pcn> I've upgraded from 16.10 to 17.04 on a dell 9550 with an nvme drive.  Since the upgrade my computer has locked up with what appears in the console to be ext4 fs failures of some kind, but booting off a recovery usb stick doesn't discover any filesystems errors
[16:50] <carpediembaby> ikonia: I don't know, how can I find out?
[16:50] <pynki> tomreyn, i do not know.
[16:50] <pcn> just extents that could be shrunk.  Doing so hasn't prevented further issues.
[16:50] <ikonia> carpediembaby: research the device, probe the hardware and look at the chipset
[16:50] <pynki> carpediembaby, plug it into a14.04.
[16:50] <carpediembaby> tomreyn: the driver doesn't work. "make" fails
[16:50] <pcn> It does seem that / becomes unavailable.
[16:51] <tomreyn> he probably should try to find out what device he has there first of all, before trying to build any drivers
[16:51] <carpediembaby> pynki: don't have 14.04 anymore.. the laptop died
[16:51] <pcn> Does anyone know of similar/related issues, or can describe to me how to troubleshoot?
[16:51] <tomreyn> carpediembaby: diwbnload it and run it as a live session
[16:51] <tomreyn> *download
[16:51] <carpediembaby> i have another device with mint linux though, it works on it also
[16:52] <tomreyn> that should also work
[16:52] <rizonz> pynki: -rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0  160 Apr 17 18:29 z90-route-ens3
[16:52] <tomreyn> just run lsusb
[16:52] <rizonz> should be OK
[16:52] <carpediembaby> tomreyn, you want me to run lsusb on mint with this adapter plugged in?
[16:52] <tomreyn> carpediembaby: that's what i suggest, yes
[16:53] <tomreyn> carpediembaby: that's if the device works on that mint system
[16:54] <pynki> carpediembaby, RTL8153 Chipset i think
[16:54] <tomreyn> pynki: based on?
[16:54] <pynki> tomreyn, amazon, google
[16:54] <tomreyn> heh
[16:55] <pynki> http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=56&PFid=56&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#RTL8153
[16:56] <tomreyn> first let's see the usb id's
[16:56] <pynki> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PC07T02?psc=1 this looks like it and a bunch of their devices are based on the realtek chipset
[16:56] <MarioMey1> Hi, there. I have a Foscam Wi-Fi IP-Cam. The only way to know what is the default IP is by using Windows software. It detects where the cam is. I would not want to find a Windows computer (not mine), install software, connect camera to Ethernet and do it  there.
[16:57] <carpediembaby> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24401901
[16:57] <MarioMey1> Can I do the same with nmap?
[16:58] <pynki> MarioMey1, first: reset the device, run 'nmap -p80 xxx.yyy.zzz0-254' or just have a look inside the router what ip address the dhcp server gives the device
[16:59] <tomreyn> carpediembaby: okay, pynki guessed right. 0bda:8153 seem to be the ethernet adapter, a realtek 8153 chip.
[16:59] <pynki> MarioMey1, if you have a direct connection you have to use a static ip on your ethernet, most likely in the 192.168.0/1.0/32 space to egt a connection to the camera
[16:59] <carpediembaby> pynki: tomreyn: this is the output on this laptop (where it doesn't work): https://paste.ubuntu.com/24401917/
[17:01] <tomreyn> carpediembaby: this looks like this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1622322
[17:03] <pynki> MarioMey1, better to conenct the cam to a router. makes everything simpler. https://www.instar.de/media/wysiwyg/Products/Software/Camera_Tool_Linux/INSTAR_Camera_Tool_LINUX.zip this tool might work on the foscams too. some old instar models came out of the same factory as the foscams. but thats some years ago
[17:04] <carpediembaby> tomreyn: so it doesn't work until this bug is fixed?
[17:06] <carpediembaby> pynki: i can't install the driver from realtek that you sent .. i extract the bz2 file and there is one resulting file which i have no idea what to do with
[17:08] <tomreyn> carpediembaby: the bug report discusses possible workarounds. you could also provide more information on this bug report and thus support finding a fix.
[17:08] <pynki> i cannot wget or curl that file carpediembaby. i have no desktop here
[17:09] <tomreyn> pynki: DDL http://12244.wpc.azureedge.net/8012244/drivers/rtdrivers/cn/nic/0007-r8152.53-2.08.0.bz2
[17:10] <mac_nibblet> Sooo, I came in here earlier with a problem with a live usb and couldn't get it to boot
[17:10] <mac_nibblet> I managed to install ubuntu 17.04 gnome, but i'm getting the same errors as before my disk keeps remounting in read-only mode
[17:10] <Sparrow_> carpediembaby, Easiest solution is usb wifi dongle until they get it fixed.
[17:10] <mac_nibblet> I ran fsck on the drive and everything is fine
[17:11] <mac_nibblet> So i'm going to assume this is a software issue ?
[17:11] <JustTheDoctor_> in a ubuntu server console is it possible to download all the files in a url dir listing with wget?
[17:12] <rizonz> weird I see ens9 when I do an ifconf but when I want to down it it says ens9 is not configured
[17:12] <riotz> hi, i want to bind my mouse keys based on the app that i'm currently using.. whats the best way to accomplish that on ubuntu?
[17:12] <wedgie> JustTheDoctor_: i shouldnthink so. but #wget is probably the better place to ask.
[17:13] <JustTheDoctor_> thanks wedgie
[17:14] <tomreyn> JustTheDoctor_: look into the --recursive option
[17:14] <pcn> mac_nibblet: what kind of disk do you have?
[17:15] <tomreyn> JustTheDoctor_: depending on how the links are done in html, it can work. with simple directory listings it should.
[17:15] <JustTheDoctor_> tyty
[17:18] <kaili> Hello. Here I'm again about my external monitor not working at optimal resolution (2560x1440 ; it works using 1920x1080) connected from my laptop display port with HDMI cable using Ubuntu 17.04. The same setup is working on Windows, it's definitely an Ubuntu problem. I tried with and without nvidia proprietary driver, it doesn't change the problem. Here is the xrandr : http://paste.ubuntu.com/24402030/ and the Xorg log : http://paste
[17:18] <kaili> The only interesting message I saw was : [   401.713] (--) modeset(G0): HDMI max TMDS frequency 300000KHz [   401.733] randr: falling back to unsynchronized pixmap sharing
[17:19] <kaili> Can anyone give me a hand investigating this problem ? It's the last one keeping from removing definitely my Windows partition, but I need optimal resolution for presentation with clients
[17:21] <mac_nibblet> pcn, uhm, SSD It's a XPS 9550
[17:21] <mac_nibblet> I'm thinking of modifying /etc/fstab with errors=continue instead of errors=remount-ro
[17:22] <pynki> kaili, tried to set the resolution by hand?
[17:23] <MarioMey1> pynki: I reset it and run that command. It says "Nmap scan report for xxx.yyy.zzz0-254 (<IP_ADDRESS>)".
[17:23] <kaili> pynki: using xrandr ? Yes, still getting "no signal" when switching to 2560x1440
[17:23] <MarioMey1> Would it be IP? I try to go there but it says: "Invalid Request"
[17:23] <kaili> pynki: I also tried to lower refresh rate, but xrandr didn't seem to update to my value
[17:24] <pynki> MarioMey1, replace xxx.yyy.zzz.0-254 with your network ip address space: for example: nmap <IP_ADDRESS>-254
[17:24] <pynki> the -p80 just limits the scan to port 80...shpould make it faster. when the cam is resetted then the interface will be available on port 80
[17:24] <MarioMey1> pynki: should I disconnect wi-fi modem?
[17:25] <pynki> MarioMey1, how are you connected to the camera?