[14:55] <Guest66459> tell me first how do i change my nickname is it not /nick nickname
[14:55] <cfhowlett> !nick|Guest66459,
[14:55] <Guest66459> !nick|star
[14:56] <Guest66574> Hey guys, does anybody know how to fully wipe a hard drive, so that it's in the same state as a brand new one? I seem to have really screwed up with attemtping UEFI dual boot and now even a single Win7 installation is screwed.
[14:56] <guest-KrVibl> What is the problem ?
[14:56] <starhunter> ubottu..thanks
[14:56] <cfhowlett> Guest66574, fully wipe shouldn't be required.  just reinstall your OS
[14:56] <starhunter> ok
[14:56] <peyam> Hi, anybody knows how I can paste a kod into putty. I already tried right klick mouse, shift+Insert
[14:56] <guest-KrVibl> gcc: error trying to exec 'ecj1': execvp: No such file or directory
[14:57] <OerHeks> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX # where sdX is your sda/sdb/sdc whatever number
[14:57] <starhunter> ok so i deleted the www folder in ubuntu 12.04 thinking that it would install back once apache is reinstalled .but its not happening so.wat should i do
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> peyam  ctrl-v maybe
[14:58] <zeb_> hi, someone completely over my install :(
[14:58] <zeb_> took over
[14:58] <Lex2> cfhowlett: not working. when trying to dual-boot Ubuntu it shows no existing Win7 system
[14:58] <zeb_> anyone want to help via PM?
[14:58] <Lex2> and even using the Win7 install cd to fix the boot, it detects no Win7 install
[15:00] <cfhowlett> Lex2, you have an GPT or EFI partition table?
[15:00] <Lex2> cfhowlett: both
[15:00] <starhunter> folks help me with the deleted www folder.any1???
[15:00] <peyam> MonkeyDust, it doesnt work
[15:01] <guest-KrVibl> give the fags some pills
[15:01] <cfhowlett> Lex2, that'll do it.  someone knows more than I do, but installing on gpt / efi is always a bit different
[15:01] <guest-KrVibl> SHOCK TREATMENTS
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> peyam  can you paste it into gedit? so you know it's on the clipboard
[15:01] <guest-KrVibl> HIGH VOLTAGE while oboma supports baby butchring
[15:01] <DJones> guest-KrVibl: Stop
[15:01] <cfhowlett> !ops|guest-KrVibl,
[15:02] <guest-KrVibl> why doesnt the calculator work right
[15:02] <DJones> guest-KrVibl: This is a support channel, your comments aren't welcome
[15:02] <KyouReeUs4nfo> peyam: in terminal Shift+Ctrl+V works for pasting, I wonder if it's the same for putty
[15:02] <baitgb> hi, if i'm on lubutnu and already installed chrome with a packge downloaded from google -  how do i keep the software (chrome) updated?
[15:02] <peyam> KyouReeUs4nfo, no its doent work :(
[15:02] <guest-KrVibl> gcc: error trying to exec 'ecj1': execvp: No such file or directory
[15:02] <KyouReeUs4nfo> peyam: okay
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> peyam  i guess the line wasnt even copied
[15:03] <OerHeks> starhunter, With deleting /var you have deleted essential information not only for the package management system, but also for a whole bunch of other programs.
[15:03] <peyam> MonkeyDust, it is
[15:03] <OerHeks> star
[15:03] <Skaag> any ideas why there's no get-edid binary after installing the read-edid package? :-)
[15:03] <OerHeks> starhunter, reinstall
[15:04] <guest-KrVibl> you suckers think that is the pope as if the pope would shake hands with oboma
[15:04] <starhunter> Oerheks its not working
[15:04] <KyouReeUs4nfo> peyam: per this link, it's just right click http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/faq.html#faq-cutpaste
[15:04] <cfhowlett> DJones, thanks
[15:04] <Skaag> DJones: I was just thinking, somebody's about to get the boot ;)
[15:04] <starhunter> @Oerheks its the www folder thats deleted not var
[15:04] <m1dnight> haha, you can't start your question with "hi," on askubuntu :p
[15:04] <m1dnight> just noticed
[15:05] <OerHeks> starhunter, making a new /var/www folder does not work indeed, too many dependencies and hardlinks to that folder, reinstall is quicker than solving those problems
[15:07] <starhunter> @Oerherks u saying that i reinstall LAMP right?now on installing apache its says already installed (which must be bcoz earlier installation of LAMP stopped at mysql installation).but www doesn't appear
[15:08] <Skaag> argh. get-edid is x86 only, I'm on ARM... :-\
[15:08] <OerHeks> starhunter, no, reinstall ubuntu server
[15:09] <starhunter> @Oerheks how is that related.sorry i dont have knowledge of these things .i am new to it
[15:12] <OerHeks> starhunter, the /var/www/ folder is provided by the server install ( desktop too) and deleting such important folder gives more trouble to set it back right, than reinstall. as you have no clue what you did, this is the fastest way. backup your data and reinstall
[15:12] <starhunter> @Oerheks so u mean i reinstall the whole operating system.
[15:14] <kikimeter> hi, someone can help me to fix my sound issue on ubuntu ?
[15:14] <OerHeks> starhunter, basicly yes
[15:14] <kikimeter> I have a P8z77 motherboard
[15:15] <kikimeter> I've already heard some sound on my computer
[15:15] <starhunter> @Oerheks that's hell of a work then.is there any other alternative
[15:15] <kikimeter> but right now I can't heard any sound
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> kikimeter  in a terminal, type     alsamixer    if you see MM, go there and hit m -- use the arrow keys
[15:16] <OerHeks> starhunter, you might want to re-ask in #ubuntu-server too
[15:16] <kikimeter> alsmixer cant be open
[15:17] <starhunter> #ubuntu-server
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> kikimeter  what happesn when you try?
[15:17] <kikimeter> command not found
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> kikimeter  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[15:17] <kikimeter> 1 sec I apt-get
[15:17] <kikimeter> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[15:18] <KyouReeUs4nfo> kikimeter: it's alsamixer with an 'a'
[15:18] <kikimeter> I'm in french, but it says that my mix can't be opent: No file or folder with type
[15:19] <chichov> what is the status on nouveau drivers for nvidia quadro laptops?
[15:19] <chichov> more precisely, I'm still having issues with the driver on my nvs4200m propelled thinkpad
[15:19] <kikimeter> alsmixer is an app ? or sound driver  ?
[15:19] <kikimeter> alsamixer*
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> kikimeter  alsAmixer, you mistyped
[15:19] <EagleScreen> how can I void the laptop to enter in suspend to RAM when laptop lid is closed? on Ubuntu Server??
[15:19] <chichov> seems like the refresh rate of the screen is much too low; the redrawing is terribly delayed
[15:21] <kikimeter> Do I have to reinstall alsamixer ?
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> kikimeter  no, it comes with the ubuntu installation
[15:22] <kikimeter> I install ubuntu with the mini.iso
[15:22] <kikimeter> and install unity after
[15:23] <kikimeter> so maybe I made a mistake
[15:23] <kikimeter> and need to reinstall alsamixer
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> kikimeter  i missed that part, then maybe yes, you have to install alsamixer
[15:23] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: do you intend to keep it out of sleep or suspend mode?
[15:23] <kikimeter> alsamixer is part of PulseAudio ?
[15:24] <EagleScreen> KyouReeUs4nfo: now it suspends to RAM when lid is closed, I i don't want that behaviour, I'd like it to not suspend to RAM
[15:26] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: Do you have power manager installed?
[15:27] <EagleScreen> KyouReeUs4nfo: which package do you mean?
[15:27] <kikimeter> Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: (none loaded).
[15:27] <kikimeter> Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload).
[15:27] <kikimeter> Sound likes I dont have any sound driver installed no ?
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> kikimeter  if you don't get an answer here, #ubuntustudio is multimedia dedicated
[15:29] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: For instance, in Xfce power manager (GUI based), I can control that behaviour from a drop-down menu of actions to be taken for "when laptop lid is closed"
[15:29] <cfhowlett> kikimeter, might also try #opensourcemusicans
[15:29] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: let me look up package name for you
[15:29] <kikimeter> thank you, but I need to try some solution and understand how sound driver works
[15:29] <volslost> will someone help me find the place to make php.ini changes? i'm on 13.10 with php-fpm and none of the changes in /etc/php5/fpm/php.ini are taking effect
[15:29] <kikimeter> before
[15:30] <Aaruni> volslost: have you tried restarting php-fpm ?
[15:30] <EagleScreen> note that this is Ubuntu Server, there isn't Xorg nor Unity nor Gnome nor XFCE here
[15:30] <volslost> Aaruni: yes, I have
[15:31] <SuperLag> Is there a config file where the "Default Applications" are configured?
[15:31] <kohna> wa
[15:31] <Aaruni> maybe you need to restart your server too, volslost ?
[15:31] <cfhowlett> !server|volslost,
[15:31] <volslost> I tried restarting as well
[15:32] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: okay, let me lookup CLI equivalent
[15:32] <minimec> EagleScreen: As you run a server, might just want to disable suspend/hibernate... Never did that, but the link looks promising. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/860485/comments/15
[15:33] <volslost> I just started getting a connection error after restarting FPM again.  let me chase that down for a bit.
[15:33] <Fjorgynn> hey
[15:37] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: laptop-mode-tools might be of some interest, not exactly what you want, still looking
[15:38] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys, if I were to use autossh what most common setup? init script? or throwing the command in rc.local?
[15:42] <xutl> what does ";" means in terminal ? as in here - git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git ~/wine-git; cd ~/wine-git
[15:44] <Demon_Jester> the ; basically says that command has ended issue the next command
[15:44] <Aaruni> ';' means that the next thing is the next statement, not the part of the same command
[15:45] <kikimeter> How to know my sound model for my asus p8z77 (http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt) ?
[15:45] <xutl> Aaruni: 2 commands in line ? or output of 1st as input of second also ?
[15:45] <xutl> in one* line
[15:45] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360615/ubuntu-server-13-10-now-goes-to-sleep-when-closing-laptop-lid
[15:45] <Aaruni> xutl: two commands in 1 line
[15:45] <kikimeter> I got it on my mother board manual
[15:45] <xutl> Aaruni: k, thnx
[15:46] <xutl> I have one wine question, wanna run 1 app in wine but its saying "Operating System is not adequate"
[15:47] <cfhowlett> !wine|xutl, wine support not in this channel
[15:52] <nikwen> Hi! I just wanted to update my Ubuntu 13.10 installation to 14.04 and it failed.
[15:52] <Demon_Jester> did you do suda apt-get update?
[15:52] <cfhowlett> nikwen, of course.  14.04 is not released yet
[15:52] <Demon_Jester> oh.....
[15:52] <Demon_Jester> :|
[15:53] <nikwen> I previously had the click package installed from the up to date repo on Launchpad.
[15:53] <nikwen> So the update of that package failed.
[15:54] <nikwen> In addition, upstart-app-launch is broken as well.
[15:54] <nikwen> cfhowlett: Yes, I installed the beta.
[15:54] <nikwen> Or tried to. ^^
[15:54] <nikwen> Demon_Jester: Yes, I did do sudo apt-get update
[15:54] <cfhowlett> nikwen, *beta* are not officially supported in this channel = see #ubuntu+1
[15:55] <nikwen> cfhowlett: Oh, then I'm sorry. Is anybody willing to help me though?
[15:55] <cfhowlett> nikwen, yes in #ubuntu+ 1 the official channel for in development releases.
[15:55] <nikwen> cfhowlett: Thanks. :)
[16:02] <peyam> Hi
[16:02] <peyam> anybody knows how I put files in my home server ?
[16:02] <cfhowlett> !server|peyam, ask the server channel
[16:06] <TimoMeijer> Is systemd already available for Ubunut? I'm currently in the process of defining some startup scripts, and it would be a waste of time if I have to rewrite them from Upstart to Systemd in a few weeks time
[16:06] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i have a laptop with 2 hds and would like to replace the secondary with an SSD. The secondary has ubuntu both root and home partitions and the primary has ms wins and of course boot sector. Is there a way not to re-install everything on the secondary disk?
[16:06] <Guest56930> Hi everyone
[16:07] <Guest56930> how u all doing today ?
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> Guest56930  this is the support channel, not the social chat channel
[16:08] <Guest56930> does anyone here knew a channel for CISCO
[16:08] <Guest56930> i'm new with chatting thing
[16:08] <cfhowlett> Guest56930, ask the google for cisco help channels
[16:08] <Guest56930> i did
[16:08] <Guest56930> nothing
[16:09] <Guest56930> actually I wanna a compinations of CISCO, version control.
[16:09] <cfhowlett> Guest56930, this is ubuntu, not cisco
[16:09] <m1dnight> hey guys, when I install ubuntu in dual boot with windows on 2 harddrivers (sda for win, sdb for ubuntu), where do I install the bootloader?
[16:09] <m1dnight> sdb, sdb1, or sda?
[16:10] <cfhowlett> m1dnight, sda
[16:10] <bekks> m1dnight: On the boot drive.
[16:10] <Guest56930> cfhowlett:I know...i figured u r familiar with chatting stuff,and u could help me
[16:10] <naftilos76> sda always
[16:10] <m1dnight> oh okay, thanks :)
[16:10] <m1dnight> then I did it wrong :p
[16:10] <m1dnight> maybe boot-repair will fix it, otherwise i'll reinstall
[16:10] <m1dnight> no biggie
[16:10] <naftilos76> ubuntu will set it up automatically
[16:10] <m1dnight> thanks for the help
[16:10] <m1dnight> I chose "something else" :(
[16:12] <cyford> is there a way to force a choice is ps3 bash  by an variable?
[16:12] <naftilos76> Guys, is there a way to clone both root and home partitions when replacing a hd ? The new hd will not be same with the old one (manufact, model etc)
[16:12] <naftilos76> Re-installing is a nightmare
[16:12] <cfhowlett> !clone|naftilos76,
[16:14] <mcl0vin_> good morning folks
[16:14] <naftilos76> ubottu - I will need a little bit more than that. As i said i need hd cloning as i am about to replace a hd with a ssd.
[16:15] <naftilos76> Thanks man for the hint! None is intelligent enough :-)
[16:15] <mcl0vin_> i am running 13.10 as head less, is there a way i can get to the desktop of that box from a different machine i.e windows 7
[16:15] <Aaruni> cfhowlett: does apt-clone work across releases? like from 12.04 to 14.04 ?
[16:15] <cfhowlett> naftilos76, that's NOT what you said.  you said "the new HD will not be the same with the old one"  HD.
[16:16] <cfhowlett> Aaruni, same functionality so far as I know
[16:16] <Aaruni> cfhowlett: so, create clone on 12.04, then restore on 14.04 ?
[16:16] <cisconinja> I am running 13.10 as head less, is there a way i can get to the desktop of that box from a different machine i.e windows 7
[16:16] <volslost>  does this error imply my firewall is blocking the connection: [proxy:error] [pid 3028] (111)Connection refused: AH00957: FCGI: attempt to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:9000 (*) failed
[16:16] <Aaruni> !patience| cisconinja
[16:17] <bekks> cisconinja: If it is headless, why do you need a desktop? :)
[16:17] <cfhowlett> Aaruni, you talking about cloning data only, right?
[16:17] <cisconinja> bekks: say i want to run dia or any other GUI
[16:17] <volslost> that was from my apache error.log, FYI
[16:17] <Aaruni> cfhowlett: you said apt-clone, right? so, I assumed it clones the installed applications, since apt be the package manager.
[16:17] <ziyourenxiang> volslost: it usually means you have no service listening on that port.
[16:18] <naftilos76> cfhowlett: Apologies if i have mistyped. As i said in my first comment, i will replace the sec hd on my laptop with a SSD and need a way to skip reinstalling everything.
[16:18] <Aaruni> reinstalling is PITA, not because you need to move your data, but because you need to get those applications back
[16:18] <cfhowlett> Aaruni, put your data in a dedicated /home
[16:18] <volslost> ziyourenxiang: thanks.  i'm using proxy_fcgi and it's failing to restart with 'Unkown Instance'
[16:18] <cfhowlett> Aaruni, that assumption is correct
[16:19] <cfhowlett> naftilos76, I'm going to bail out on this as I'm not sure a HD to SSD clone will work - different requirements/boot ups ...
[16:19] <Aaruni> so, cfhowlett, is it possible to clone applications from my current box from 12.04, to 14.04 when I upgrade?
[16:19] <Aaruni> or have to download everything again?
[16:19] <cfhowlett> Aaruni, that is my understanding
[16:20] <Aaruni> because the repos will change.
[16:20] <Demon_Jester> hey guys whats the difference using autossh and using command TCPKeepAlive & ServerAliveinterval
[16:20] <naftilos76> Well i doubt if it works myself. Hoped that there would be a way. Thanks man. I will just copy my home part and will reinstall the rest
[16:21] <balsaq> is there any benefit to running ubuntu 12.04 LTS x64 bit on a computer with 2 gb of ram?
[16:21] <cfhowlett> balsaq, I seem to recall that 4 gb is the recommended ram
[16:21] <Aaruni> balsaq: out of experience, I would advice against it. a 64 bit OS lags very much in a 2 GB VM, and I expect similar results on a physical machine
[16:22] <jacksina> ?
[16:22] <cfhowlett> balsaq, however, lubuntu or xubuntu can run quite nicley with 2 gb ...
[16:23] <ziyourenxiang> if running X-less as a server, should be fine?
[16:23] <balsaq> cfhowlett, Aaruni , i was wondering if 64 bit is not simply faster by nature regardless of the amount of ram, obviously i owuld not consider less than 2 gb...it is at that level that lubuntu or maybe xubuntu would come into play...
[16:24] <balsaq> but i find that ubuntu is nearly as fast anyway
[16:24] <balsaq> so i gave up on the small OS's
[16:24] <cfhowlett> ziyourenxiang, ask #ubuntu-server
[16:25] <cfhowlett> !ubuntukylin|ziyourenxiang, also
[16:25] <Aaruni> balsaq: I'm not sure, if 32-bit or 64-bit is faster, but my 64-bit Ubuntu takes ~1.5 GB of ram, so, 4gig is a minimum for me
[16:25] <balsaq> i think  64 bit is faster
[16:25] <ziyourenxiang> thanks.
[16:26] <bekks> balsaq: which is not true.
[16:26] <balsaq> ok ty bekks
[16:26] <bekks> Aaruni: And unused RAM is wasted RAM.
[16:26] <balsaq> always wondered
[16:26] <balsaq> 10-4
[16:26] <Aaruni> bekks: it starts swapping at around 2.5 GB, which essentially puts a halt to my system
[16:26] <Toadstool2> waddup ubuntu folks
[16:26] <TJ-> balsaq: Depending on the compiler, 64-bit builds might be faster because AMD64 CPUs have many more, wider, registers. On the other hand, the code and some data elements might take up twice as much space on storage and  in memory.
[16:27] <Toadstool2> anyone know of a good ipad manager for linux?
[16:27] <Toadstool2> i hate itunes
[16:27] <cfhowlett> Toadstool2, there is no ipad manager for linux
[16:27] <cfhowlett> !iphone
[16:27] <Toadstool2> thanks cfhowlett
[16:28] <bekks> Aaruni: Which is caused by vm.swappiness=40 which starts at about 2.5GB when having 4GB RAM. set it to 5 or 10 and you will be good to go.
[16:29] <Aaruni> bekks: mine is 20
[16:29] <Aaruni> 60 is default, I didn't dare to make it lower than 20
[16:29] <bekks> Aaruni: you can set it to even lower values without problems.
[16:29] <bekks> Just dont set it to 0.
[16:29] <Aaruni> bekks: will 5 do ?
[16:29] <bekks> Sure.
[16:29] <TimoMeijer> Is systemd already available for Ubuntu? I'm currently in the process of defining some startup scripts, and it would be a waste of time if I have to rewrite them from Upstart to Systemd in a few weeks time
[16:29] <Aaruni> ok, thanks! :)
[16:29] <bekks> Aaruni: Do you know what swappiness means?
[16:30] <Aaruni> bekks: yeah. it starts to swap only after that much %age RAM is free
[16:30] <Aaruni> i.e., when swappiness is 10, it will go to 90% ram before swapping
[16:31] <bekks> Aaruni: Yeah, it will start swapping when less than vm.swappiness RAM is free. So it is no problem to set it to fairly small values.
[16:31] <Toadstool2> aww snap
[16:32] <Toadstool2> daft punk just came on
[16:32] <m1dnight> allright, booting into xubuntu \o/
[16:33] <OerHeks> TimoMeijer, systemD is not shipped default, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd#Kernel_requirements
[16:33] <Aaruni> if there is an overheat problem in the laptop, that is it shuts off from the heat ~30 minutes into ubuntu, will Lubuntu solve anything?
[16:34] <Toadstool2> Aaruni - if your laptop is overheating its probably best to blast the inside with compressed air
[16:34] <Toadstool2> lubuntu wont make much difference
[16:34] <Aaruni> Toadstool2: I messed up the thermal paste, and got it changed a couple of times. I'm not exactly sure what the problem is, but yes, it dies on me whenever I try anything intensive.
[16:35] <TimoMeijer> OerHeks: But Ubuntu was planning to switch over to it, right? Is that document still up-to-date, and do you know of any information about when systemd will become the default?
[16:35] <Aaruni> last april, same channel. maybe someone remembers.
[16:35] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[16:35] <Aaruni> OerHeks: fan speeds? never worked for my laptop...
[16:35] <OerHeks> TimoMeijer, yes, but not with the upcomming 14.04,
[16:36] <OerHeks> Aaruni, what brand/type laptop ?
[16:36] <Aaruni> HP pavillion G6
[16:36] <TJ-> Aaruni: If the thermal paste isn't applied properly - fix it!
[16:37] <Aaruni> TJ-: already got it fixed by the service center, after I screwed it up myself. but laptop still dies. Its a secondary laptop now, left to me for all sorts of experimenting
[16:37] <Aaruni> an old Dell inspiron
[16:37] <Toadstool2> Aaruni you probably cooked your processor lol
[16:37] <TJ-> Aaruni: The other possibility is the fan(s) aren't operating as expected due to disturbance
[16:37] <OerHeks> could be a lot of solutions, grub line acpi=vendor or something like that
[16:38] <Aaruni> Toadstool2: I think CPU is fine, but I screwed my GPU, I think. TJ- can I force them to spin at max at all times
[16:38] <Aaruni> ?
[16:38] <TJ-> Aaruni: I would always double-check what a 'service center' actually applied. Many so-called engineers aren't aware of the best way to apply thermal pastes
[16:38] <TJ-> Aaruni: Fan control can sometimes be 'automatic' in hardware
[16:38] <Aaruni> TJ-: If I open it, then won't I need to apply new stuff again?
[16:39] <Toadstool2> Aaruni get a tube of arctic silver and a plastic giftcard and re apply your thermal paste
[16:39] <Toadstool2> before you do that, make sure to clear every last bit of dust
[16:40] <TJ-> Aaruni: Something I've seen in the past that affected fan speeds was a system with a discrete temperature sensor mounted alongside the chip, which was moved enough not to be in direct contact with the casing, and therefore wasn't reading a much lower temperature. Simply bending it 1mm to make contact fixed the overheating issues.
[16:40] <Aaruni> Toadstool2: too much investment for a dead/dying laptop? also I searched, but no supply of arctic silver here.
[16:40] <Aaruni> TJ-: I think the intel CPU has an inbuilt sensor.
[16:41] <TJ-> Aaruni: No. I frequently remove heatsink assemblies from laptops. I always use a wide sharpie blade or similar to ensure the paste is fully covering the top of the CPU/GPU and a consistent thickness, before replacing.
[16:42] <scottyarwood> Can anyone help me get java working in google chrome? I followed all the instructions on here (including the stuff at the bottom about getting it to work in web browsers): https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikihow.com%2FInstall-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux&ei=Ivc2U-62NOelsAT7oYGACQ&usg=AFQjCNGfsQgVpLshX6L3b62FzqSQ1ln9sQ&sig2=Ls71F-Y8_TVoyc7ZEbpC3g&bvm=b
[16:42] <TJ-> Aaruni: Yes, but you said GPU... sometimes the trigger for the fan for the GPU is external; usually touching or integral to, a part of the heatpipe assembly.
[16:42] <OerHeks> scottyarwood, hard to do, maybe that howto could work in chromium, but chrome is closed source
[16:42] <scottyarwood> Also, I was installing 64 bit oracle JDK
[16:42] <Aaruni> TJ-: All I have is half a syringe of some thermal paste from CM, non-curing. and no supply of alcohol to clean it up either. hardware supplies suck here..
[16:43] <scottyarwood> oh
[16:43] <bekks> !java | scottyarwood
[16:43] <TJ-> Aaruni: Got any white-spirit, or nail-varnish remover?
[16:43] <Aaruni> TJ-: nope.
[16:43] <TJ-> AaronCampbell: For a full application on CPU + GPU I use about 1/2 a pea sized paste
[16:43] <Aaruni> TJ-: wrong mention ?
[16:44] <TJ-> Aaruni: yeah, silly tab completion!
[16:44] <TJ-> Aaruni: What I'm getting at is, address the real problem, don't try to work around it with software restrictions
[16:44] <scottyarwood> I installed JDK. And also, the instructions were for google chrome. I can run minecraft with it and stuff but it won't appear in my chrome plugins
[16:44] <Aaruni> TJ-: ok, thanks for the advice
[16:44] <Aaruni> :)
[16:46] <daftykins> Aaruni: hitting high temps and thinking thermal paste alone? i'd imagine there's a bad cooler contact.
[16:46] <scottyarwood> ubottu: I installed JDK just fine, I just can't get it running in chrome. The instructions aren't working
[16:47] <Toadstool2> lol
[16:47] <tenleftfingers> Anyone know how to tell if my hdd is using DMA or PIO mode? I'm trying to fix a sound issue.
[16:47] <scottyarwood> is ubottu actually a bot or am I getting messed with?
[16:48] <daftykins> scottyarwood: the JDK is the dev kit, it has no relevance to chrome. perhaps you're thinking about the runtime? (JRE) what are you trying to run in chrome?
[16:48] <Toadstool2> scottyarwood: why dont you ask it?
[16:48] <scottyarwood> ubottu: are you a bot?
[16:48] <daftykins> tenleftfingers: how'd you get from disk transfer mode to sound? :) hdparm used to show active mode on a disk
[16:48] <scottyarwood> JDK comes with JRE
[16:48] <TJ-> tenleftfingers: "grep ata /var/log/dmesg"
[16:48] <scottyarwood> and I'm trying to run java based games in chrome
[16:48] <Toadstool2> scottyarwood: why not use firefox?
[16:48] <tenleftfingers> daftykins: By buying a Dell Studio :( Thanks ;)
[16:49] <tenleftfingers> TJ-: I'll check there too - cheers.
[16:49] <scottyarwood> I tried with firefox too but I couldn't get it working there either
[16:50] <daftykins> scottyarwood: followed something like - http://technonstop.com/install-java-plugin-ubuntu-linux ?
[16:50] <daftykins> although that's 3 years old, heh
[16:50] <TJ-> scottyarwood: You need the Java-plugin
[16:50] <Toadstool2> all i had to do was: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[16:50] <Toadstool2> and it works fine in firefox
[16:51] <daftykins> maybe he's using the oracle JDK
[16:51] <scottyarwood> yeah. I'm using the oracle version
[16:51] <daftykins> scottyarwood: which ubuntu version?
[16:51] <scottyarwood> 13.10
[16:52] <TJ-> Toadstool2: The plugin won't always be installed; It depends on Apt settings. "icedtea-7-plugin" is a "Suggests" of "openjdk-7-jre"
[16:52] <daftykins> scottyarwood: so i take it you googled and have tried following something like - http://www.wikihow.com/Enable-Oracle-Java-in-Your-Web-Browsers-on-Ubuntu-Linux ?
[16:53] <scottyarwood> It had instructions on https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikihow.com%2FInstall-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux&ei=Ivc2U-62NOelsAT7oYGACQ&usg=AFQjCNGfsQgVpLshX6L3b62FzqSQ1ln9sQ&sig2=Ls71F-Y8_TVoyc7ZEbpC3g&bvm=bv.63808443,d.cWc
[16:53] <scottyarwood> and I tried that then I did a google search for why isn't java loading on web browsers but I never found that
[16:53] <daftykins> that kind of a google search is too human a language
[16:54] <daftykins> follow my link now then
[16:54] <daftykins> i'm sure it'll be resolved very quickly.
[16:54] <macdabby> i have 3 machines - connected 1 to 2, and 2 to 3. i can ping from 3 to 1, but when i ping from 1 to 3 i don’t get a response. tcpdump confirms 3 gets the request, packetcapture (pfsense) on 2 says there is no response from 3, but i can ping normally from 2 to 3 … any ideas? the routing table seems normal and 3 is definitely responding to pings
[16:55] <scottyarwood> I'll try that other tutorial
[16:55] <scottyarwood> the one that you sent
[16:55] <TJ-> macdabby: Does '3' have a route to 2 and 1 ?
[16:56] <macdabby> TJ-: yes, i can can even ping from 3 to 2 and 1 and get responses
[16:56] <TJ-> macdabby: Any firewall rules on 3?
[16:56] <macdabby> TJ-: it seems like just responses aren’t getting out of that box - when they need to get back to 1
[16:57] <daftykins> run tcpdump on it and see if the response packet goes out
[16:57] <macdabby> TJ-: i have fw disabled on 2 completely - there shouldn’t be any on 3, it’s a default install
[16:57] <daftykins> install of what?
[16:57] <daftykins> (on all 3)
[16:57] <TJ-> macdabby: You'll need to show us the routing tables and iptables rules for each, for us to be much help to you
[16:57] <macdabby> ubuntu 12.04 on box 3, pfsense 2.1 on box2
[16:58] <daftykins> macdabby: is this some convoluted way of avoiding buying a switch? :D
[16:58]  * TJ- blames pfsense
[16:59] <TJ-> daftykins: Sounds like a LAN / router / DMZ configuration to me
[16:59] <macdabby> daftykins: lol no … i’m trying to build a secure network with 4 isolated subnets, but i need to be able to access all 4 from the VPN as admin
[17:00] <scottyarwood_> I'm back. I tried that java tutorial and it's still not working
[17:00] <daftykins> scottyarwood_: what _SPECIFICALLY_ did you do? also, 'not working' isn't great on the detail front.
[17:00] <macdabby> TJ-: so box 1 is <IP_ADDRESS>, box 2 is <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, and <IP_ADDRESS>, and box 3 is <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:00] <scottyarwood_> okay
[17:01] <TJ-> macdabby: Are all the subnets /24 ?
[17:01] <macdabby> TJ-: yes
[17:01] <OerHeks> scottyarwood_, did you perform "sudo update-alternatives --config java " ?? >>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Choosing_the_default_Java_to_use
[17:01] <TJ-> macdabby: box 3 has a route for <IP_ADDRESS>/24 via <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[17:01] <macdabby> TJ-: it has a default route to <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:02] <daftykins> OerHeks: he's dealing with a lack of browser plugins here, so that shouldn't be relevant?
[17:02] <macdabby> TJ-: no route for <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:02] <moneycat> hi, i'm trying to install GUI on a vps, but i keep getting errors "Could not open X display" when i try to run vino-preferences or gedit
[17:02] <TJ-> macdabby: OK, pastebin the routing table from box 3 please
[17:02] <OerHeks> daftykins, he installed java, so i wonder if he did it right?
[17:02] <daftykins> moneycat: what kind of VPS? most are meant to stay CLI only.
[17:03] <scottyarwood_> I updated my alternatives to java ws
[17:03] <scottyarwood_> when I first installed java I did that
[17:03] <daftykins> OerHeks: he confirmed minecraft runs so *a* java must be ok :)
[17:03] <moneycat> daftykins, i am using bitssd on bitvps
[17:03] <TJ-> macdabby: Also, does box 2 have 3 physical interfaces for those 3 subnets?
[17:03] <moneycat> daftykins, https://www.bitvps.com/openvz/
[17:03] <scottyarwood_> when I do java -version I get this: java version "1.7.0_51" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_51-b13) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.51-b03, mixed mode)
[17:04] <Braden`> Hello
[17:05] <daftykins> scottyarwood_: on my link did you follow step 7 for 64-bit java then? :)
[17:05] <daftykins> or step 1.
[17:05] <SaveTheRobots> hi all, i plan on running a dedicated 12.04 LTS box purely for hosting LXC containers, should i stick with the default 3.2 kernel or update to something newer using the LTS Enablement stack ?
[17:05] <daftykins> er, methods not steps.
[17:05] <Braden`> I have a script sitting in /etc/cron.daily, but it does not execute.  It is a simple script that should not have any permission issues (e.g. mysqldump --all-databases --events --quick --skip-extended-insert --compress --single-transaction --hex-blob --no-tablespaces --insert-ignore --disable-keys --user=backup --max-allowed-packet=1073741824 --create-options | bzip2 -z > /mnt/truecrypt/site-$(date
[17:05] <Braden`> +%F).sql.bz2
[17:05] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: Oracle Java, or OpenJDK?
[17:05] <daftykins> moneycat: so it's running an ubuntu huh?
[17:05] <Braden`> I cannot figure out why it never executes
[17:05] <scottyarwood_> oracle java
[17:05] <moneycat> daftykins, yeah
[17:05] <TJ-> SaveTheRobots: If you want to work with LXC I'd recommend going for 14.04 as soon as it is out, if not sooner :)
[17:06] <scottyarwood_> can you resend it? I had to restart my browser.
[17:06] <daftykins> moneycat: does that company not provide guides or info saying whether you can or can't have a GUI? i'd be likely to think you can't.
[17:06] <SaveTheRobots> TJ-: ah thanks, any particular reason why ?
[17:06] <bekks> Braden`: It doesnt work since you are not using full paths. Use a full path to mysqldump and bzip2. And even better, put stat stuff into a script, and execute the script from crontab.
[17:06] <macdabby> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7e39fac784afb8aba65d
[17:06] <moneycat> daftykins, i asked them and they said i could. but i get x display errors everytime i try to run anything
[17:06] <TJ-> SaveTheRobots: Better user-space tools to support the latest kernel features, mostly
[17:06] <Braden`> stat stuff?
[17:06] <bekks> Braden`: Yes.
[17:06] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: what's the end goal here, since I missed everything you were asking about, before you said "I'm back."
[17:07] <bekks> Braden`: And in that script, use full paths, as well as in your crontab.
[17:07] <macdabby> TJ-: ah - i think i might see the probelm actually ....
[17:07] <scottyarwood_> to get java ws working in by web browser
[17:07] <SuperLag> OerHeks: if java -version shows the right one, I'm guessing he got it right.
[17:07] <Braden`> What is stat stuff?
[17:07] <SaveTheRobots> TJ-: ok, is upgrading to 14.04 a good idea on a production server though ?
[17:07] <macdabby> TJ-: so this particular box has 2 ips, one 2 different subnets … i can ping the address on eth0 because that’s the same iface as the default route
[17:07] <TJ-> macdabby: I'm glad you do, I was about to ask what the heck you're doing there!
[17:07] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: when you install the Oracle Java, you need to create the symlink to the plugin manually.
[17:08] <bekks> Braden`: the command you pasted into the channel...?
[17:08] <macdabby> TJ-: but i can’t ping the ip on eth1
[17:08] <macdabby> TJ-: maybe because it’s trying to route it back through eth0?
[17:08] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: so... where did you extract the Java files to?
[17:08] <TJ-> macdabby: Yup
[17:08] <scottyarwood_> I did that
[17:08] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: you did what?
[17:08] <scottyarwood_> created the symbolic link
[17:08] <daftykins> scottyarwood_: learn to bookmark: http://www.wikihow.com/Enable-Oracle-Java-in-Your-Web-Browsers-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[17:09] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: but it's not working correctly, still?
[17:09] <avis> i reinstalled my operating system and my computer does not see my internal sound card however it sees my video sound card which i cannot use
[17:09] <TJ-> SaveTheRobots: 14.04 will be available in a little less than a month... depends on how urgent your requirement is.  We're in beta freeze now, so the only changes will be major bug-fixes to the core packages
[17:09] <scottyarwood_> thank you
[17:09] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: if it's still not working, you either a. didn't create the symlink properly, or b. linked to the wrong file. :)
[17:10] <scottyarwood_> I made the symbolic link when I first installed java and it's still not working
[17:10] <SaveTheRobots> TJ-: ah excellent, thanks very much, i guess i'll update to 14.04 then :)
[17:10] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: if you go back in your command history, can you get to the line where you created the link, and paste that here?
[17:10] <macdabby> TJ-: so im thinking the best thing to do would be to add a static route for the VPN (<IP_ADDRESS>) and that will be the only IP that i can access from within the VPN
[17:10] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: better yet, use paste.ubuntu.com, and then paste the link here
[17:10] <scottyarwood_> okay
[17:11] <TJ-> SaveTheRobots: It's really only Desktop that suffers breakage in the beta period; Server is in my experience stable for a much longer period prior to release
[17:11] <daftykins> SuperLag: i think there's a 32-bit vs. 64-bit misunderstanding going on
[17:11] <SuperLag> daftykins: that would cause problems too. :)
[17:12] <scottyarwood_> I did this when I installed it http://paste.ubuntu.com/7175124/
[17:12] <SaveTheRobots> TJ-: ah ok, i'll go look through the documentation for switching to 14.04 then, but just a quick question, can i go from 12.04 to 14.04 direct or will i have to follow more incremental upgrade steps ?
[17:12] <cfhowlett> SaveTheRobots, direct upgrade LTS to LTS
[17:12] <TJ-> SaveTheRobots: Yes, 14.04 is an LTS, which is why I suggested it
[17:12] <SaveTheRobots> TJ-, cfhowlett: gracias! :)
[17:14] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: what output do you get for this command: uname -p
[17:14] <daftykins> SuperLag: he ran it for the wrong version by the looks
[17:14] <AlexPortable> When will there an ubuntu version for tablets?
[17:14] <scottyarwood_> x86_64
[17:14] <daftykins> !touch | AlexPortable
[17:14] <SuperLag> AlexPortable: they're working on it. When it's ready. ;)
[17:14] <A1Recon> hi
[17:15] <TJ-> AlexPortable: Sorry, you won't be able to use gnome 2 on it though ;p
[17:15] <SuperLag> daftykins: looks like it's the right version...
[17:15] <daftykins> SuperLag: i mean he followed the guide with the command for 1.7.0-40 but he's running -51
[17:16] <AlexPortable> TJ-: unity is ok for tablet
[17:16] <AlexPortable> just like windows 8
[17:16] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: what do you get for "ls -l /opt/google/chrome/plugins/"
[17:17] <scottyarwood_> total 0
[17:17] <scottyarwood_> that's weird
[17:18] <daftykins> scottyarwood_: cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins && sudo ln -s /usr/local/java/jre1.7.0_51/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
[17:18] <A1Recon> My PC has Intel and NVIDIA GPUs. Given the fact that NIVIDIA optimus is unusable in Nouveau. What do I do? Install Bumblebee?
[17:19] <daftykins> A1Recon: you again! waiting for 14.04 would be wise.
[17:19] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: I'd also like to have you create the same symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ and see if it's a browser issue
[17:19] <A1Recon> daftykins: me again??
[17:20] <Sevet> hi everyone, i'm trying to get a server to boot where one drive in the raid array has failed (one is good). i see the grub menu, but booting just goes back to bios. also at the grub command line 'ls' also triggers a reboot instead of showing the devices
[17:20] <daftykins> A1Recon: but yes if you simply can't wait to try and get the nvidia chip going, give bumblebee or nvidia-prime a go
[17:20] <Sevet> anyone have any suggestions?
[17:20] <daftykins> Sevet: what kind of RAID? how many disks? is the dead one pulled?
[17:20] <A1Recon> daftykins: Last i remember I asked you for installing Ubuntu. Its working fantastic.... Except for the crappy batterylife
[17:21] <Sevet> daftykins: 2x drives (1x good, 1x failed) linux software RAID1, lvm on top of raid
[17:21] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: the reason I say that, is because even I have had issues with getting the browser plugin working correctly in Chrome... but it works fine with Firefox.
[17:21] <scottyarwood> It's not recognizing java in chrome://plugins even though i did what you told me to do and restarted my browser
[17:21] <scottyarwood> said what?
[17:22] <scottyarwood> I was gone for a few minutes when I restarted my browser
[17:22] <Sevet> daftykins: am currently waiting for the data centre to replace the failed drive - i'm wondering if grub tries to access it and that triggers the reboot
[17:22] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: I'd also like to have you create the same symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ and see if it's a browser issue
[17:22] <SuperLag> that ^^
[17:22] <Sevet> daftykins: the failed drive is not visible from bios, only the good one
[17:22] <daftykins> A1Recon: mmm, common situation that. did you look into 'laptop mode tools' ?
[17:23] <daftykins> Sevet: if it's mdadm or something, it could be that it has some safety mechanism not to boot if the drives aren't sync'd
[17:23] <Sevet> mdadm yes
[17:25] <croxio5> Hi guys, I have a laptop originally coming with Windows 8 in UEFI mode. Just wondering if there are any precautions I need to make if I'm just flat-out wiping the HDD or whether I can just delete all the partitions in GParted and then install Ubuntu afterwards. Cheers.
[17:26] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: that means "cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins && sudo -ln -s /usr/local/java/jre1.7.0_51/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so ."
[17:26] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Some folks make their Chrome profile(s) read-only so that nothing changes, I wonder if that can cause issues when java support is installed.
[17:26] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: and start Firefox and then to go a Java test page
[17:26] <daftykins> croxio5: are you going to try and install ubuntu in EFI or legacy mode?
[17:26] <bddy> Hi. Please, anyone with 12.04 could you tell if you have rlwrap installed?
[17:27] <croxio5> daftykins
[17:27] <croxio5> Yeah, in EFI.
[17:27] <bddy> (by default I mean(
[17:27] <croxio5> (still getting used to this IRC client...)
[17:27] <daftykins> croxio5: wouldn't hurt to make any backup discs your win8 system offers prior, then after nuking partitions i'd recommend dd'ing a good 100MB of zeroes onto the drive to really finish off Windows for good
[17:27] <scottyarwood> I'll try right now
[17:27] <tob89> someone from sweden?
[17:28] <daftykins> !se | tob89
[17:28] <croxio5> So I can just flat-out nuke the partitions and have there be no consequences?
[17:28] <scottyarwood> it can't find java on firefox either
[17:28] <daftykins> croxio5: well, none if you made backup discs to restore win8 if you have to :D
[17:28] <Beldar> croxio5, You have gpt partition tables, have fun.
[17:29] <croxio5> I have spare 8.1 discs lying around anyways (part-time school netadmin) so yeah.
[17:29] <daftykins> croxio5: so you're used to the fun of installing with the embedded EFI serials, ok good good :)
[17:30] <croxio5> Yeah, but with Ubuntu it'll be fine just nuking the partitions leaving the entire drive empty then installing on top from my USB?
[17:30] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: What page are you going to, to make that determination?
[17:30] <daftykins> croxio5: sure
[17:30] <Beldar> croxio5, It will still be a efi install, yes all fine if you know what you are doing.
[17:30] <croxio5> daftykins: Cool, cheers.
[17:31] <harushimo> what version of qt is on the ubuntu repostories? I'm looking for qt 5.2
[17:31] <scottyarwood> http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
[17:31] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: Okay, good. Now, you got the Oracle Java. Where did you extract it to?
[17:32] <LinuxGuy2020> I have recently bought a video capture device that only supports Windows. Before I return the item I wanted to ask if its possible to connect the USB device with Wine, install the included software and have it actually work? Or should I just return it and look for a natively supported device?
[17:32] <scottyarwood> what do you mean? I already have oracle java
[17:32] <cfhowlett> LinuxGuy2020, native support
[17:32] <LinuxGuy2020> Ok
[17:32] <scottyarwood> It just won't work in my web browser
[17:32] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: hear me out.
[17:32] <scottyarwood> okay
[17:33] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: when you get Oracle Java, it comes in either a .bin file (that you need to chmod +x, before you can extract) or as a .tar.gz file which you still have to extract.
[17:34] <SuperLag> that will likely create a jdk1.7.0_51 directory, in the location that you extracted it
[17:34] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: this is if you manually go to oracle.com and download the files yourself (which is what I always do)
[17:34] <scottyarwood> I did that too
[17:35] <scottyarwood> It was at /usr/local/java/jdk1.7.0_51
[17:35] <prainworker> someone here with wo worked with FreeCAD
[17:36] <cfhowlett> prainworker, see:   http://freecadweb.org/
[17:37] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: do this (and then paste it to paste.ubuntu.com): cd /usr/local/java/ && find . -name libnpjp2.so
[17:37] <Affy> e
[17:37] <prainworker> cfhowlett,  i am a ex solid works user and made allready really nice 3D parts on freeCAD only need a small hint
[17:38] <Dragoneye> must be something I missed, cannot get .htaccess file to work with apache2, added AllowOverride all in config files restarted apache2...  googled and still confused :-)  Any tips?
[17:38] <scottyarwood> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7175240/
[17:40] <daftykins> SuperLag: heh looks as simple as the guides having been for the JRE path vs. scottyarwood having the JDK installed
[17:40] <visva51> Hi, I have gpg keys for two separate mail accounts. I wish to sign (just sign, not encrrypt) a file from terminal with "gpg -armor -s filename"... it selects one of the two keys by itself, how do I make it select the key for other mail account for signing?
[17:41] <SuperLag> daftykins: yep.
[17:41] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: try this. "cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins && sudo -ln -s /usr/local/java/jdk1.7.0_51/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so ."
[17:41] <SuperLag> ugh
[17:41] <SuperLag> I got that wrong
[17:41] <SuperLag> hold on
[17:42] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: try this. "cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins && sudo -ln -s /usr/local/java/jdk1.7.0_51/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so ."
[17:42] <SuperLag> there
[17:42] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: then restart Firefox, and test for Java.
[17:43] <scottyarwood> its saying stuff about usage
[17:43] <daftykins> SuperLag: you have a - before 'ln', is that normal 0o
[17:43] <SuperLag> nope. typo.,
[17:43] <daftykins> scottyarwood: re-run it without the first hyphen after sudo
[17:43] <SuperLag> that ^
[17:43] <SuperLag> sorry
[17:44] <SuperLag> I can't type today, as you can well see. :D
[17:44] <scottyarwood> It still can't find java
[17:44] <SuperLag> argh
[17:44] <visva51> 	Hi, I have gpg keys for two separate mail accounts. I wish to sign (just sign, not encrrypt) a file from terminal with "gpg -armor -s filename"... it selects one of the two keys by itself, how do I make it select the key for other mail account for signing?
[17:44] <SuperLag> I wish I had access to this system.
[17:45] <SuperLag> I'd have you working in no time flat.
[17:45] <daftykins> SuperLag: :) would certainly be faaaaaar quicker
[17:45] <Aaruni> no heard of teamviewer, you guys?
[17:45] <Aaruni> even google hangouts has screen share now
[17:45] <SuperLag> oh crap
[17:45] <SuperLag> hangouts
[17:46] <SuperLag> that requires a plugin install.... which we're having issues with already. :D
[17:46] <Aaruni> or teamviewer?
[17:47] <daftykins> Aaruni: you'd be surprised how many users struggle to install teamviewer when their issue is less complex than even installing that
[17:47] <bekks> Why not just ssh and vnc over ssh?
[17:47] <daftykins> right, because you're going to get someone to port forward... ;D
[17:47] <scottyarwood> I have teamviewer
[17:47] <daftykins> been there... cried at that...
[17:47] <Aaruni> bekks: ssh would require port forwarding
[17:47] <bekks> No.
[17:48] <daftykins> i helped some guy a month ago that somehow had a different IP on his router status to what whatismyip.com said
[17:48] <Aaruni> internal DHCP. router makes an internal LAN, with a shared connection to the internet
[17:48] <daftykins> Aaruni: are you talking about in this situation? lol no, whatismyip.com shows the web-facing IP.
[17:49] <daftykins> how insulting for you to think that :(
[17:49] <KyouReeUs4nfo> SuperLag: just jumping the gun, would reinstalling Chrome help??
[17:49] <anonymous_> test
[17:49] <Aaruni> daftykins: I have no idea what I said wrong. maybe I misunderstood what you mean by IP on router status. I apologize for the offence
[17:50] <KyouReeUs4nfo> anonymous_: ack
[17:50] <bekks> Aaruni: the router status display the internal IP. the IP on whatsmyip.com is the external IP.
[17:51] <Aaruni> yeah, I said that, didn't I? whatsmyip shows 27.*.*.*, but router shows <IP_ADDRESS> . bekks , daftykins ?
[17:51] <daftykins> Aaruni + bekks - no in this case the router status page was showing the WAN IP.
[17:51] <daftykins> because i'm not a newbie :)
[17:51] <daftykins> i'd have to be a few pints down to read 'LAN IP' and think it was the internet facing one.
[17:51] <scottyarwood> brb
[17:51] <Guest68673> hi, i am using ubuntu 12.04, my wireless is not turning on
[17:52] <Aaruni> Guest68673: can you tell what is your wireless hardware?
[17:53] <Guest68673> Aaruni, its broadcom on hp 6720 S laptop
[17:54] <scottyarwood> I'm back
[17:55] <jester> helow
[17:55] <daftykins> scottyarwood: i'm game for another try.
[17:56] <scottyarwood> okay
[17:56] <jester> ?
[17:56] <daftykins> scottyarwood: this time, i'm going to go back to trying chrome, so make sure any and all chrome windows are closed first of all, then go back to your terminal and type "cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins"
[17:56] <Aaruni> Guest63462: which broadcom ?
[17:56] <jester> how anonymous is this websight ?
[17:57] <Guest68673> hi, i am using ubuntu 12.04, my wireless "broadcam STA"is not turning on
[17:57] <scottyarwood> I'll brb and open this with firefox
[17:57] <jester> ill like to join up
[17:57] <Aaruni> Guest63462: try this : http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[17:57] <daftykins> jester: join #freenode if you want to learn how to register as a user here, this is ubuntu support, not IRC support
[17:58] <scottyarwood> I am back
[17:58] <scottyarwood> so what shoud I do?
[17:58] <daftykins> scottyarwood: ok did you enter that command in the terminal already?
[17:58] <scottyarwood> not yet
[17:58] <daftykins> "cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins"
[17:59] <scottyarwood> I did that
[17:59] <daftykins> scottyarwood: now remember what i said about tab completing?
[17:59] <ddel>
[17:59] <scottyarwood> what do you mean?
[17:59] <unknown> python vBulletinBruteForcer.py.txt
[17:59] <unknown> python sqlmap.py -u
[17:59] <Guest68673> Aaruni, BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[17:59] <daftykins> scottyarwood: so type this one manually, don't copy and paste, type the first couple of characters after a / then hit tab to let it autocomplete it. e.g. type "sudo /u" now, then hit tab and it should complete to /usr ?
[18:00] <unknown> python fbruteforcer.py
[18:00] <Aaruni> Guest63462: yeah, then the driver should work
[18:00] <unknown> i know  more
[18:00] <scottyarwood> oh
[18:00] <unknown> grat hat
[18:00] <daftykins> scottyarwood: "sudo ln -s /usr/local/java/jdk1.7.0_51/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so libnpjp2.so"
[18:01] <daftykins> scottyarwood: that last bit is repeated after a space, it's no accident
[18:01] <SuperLag> daftykins: you could just make it easy and use "."
[18:01] <SuperLag> just sayin.... :)
[18:01] <daftykins> i could have yes
[18:01] <daftykins> :>
[18:01] <unknown> MSSExploiter.py.txt
[18:02] <OerHeks> unknown, what are you trying to do? do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:02] <daftykins> unknown: unless you have a question regarding ubuntu support please leave
[18:02] <scottyarwood> it said that the file already exists
[18:02] <unknown> deface?
[18:03] <daftykins> scottyarwood: ok, run "sudo rm libnpjp2.so" then hit cursor up twice and repeat the command
[18:03] <daftykins> scottyarwood: then run "ls -l" and pastebin the output for us
[18:03] <unknown> rootdabitch.sh
[18:03] <daftykins> trolls gonna troll.
[18:03] <clue_h> lol
[18:04] <KyouReeUs4nfo> daftykins: does ubottu have definition of troll too? it would be funny. :)
[18:04] <scottyarwood> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7175412/
[18:04] <daftykins> KyouReeUs4nfo: not sure - you'd have to PM her and try the trigger out to check :>
[18:05] <KyouReeUs4nfo> daftykins: what is the syntax? !troll?
[18:05] <daftykins> scottyarwood: hrmm it has a double slash in there after local// y'see? re-do it :)
[18:05] <Guest68673> Aaruni, driver is downloaded but how to install it?
[18:05] <scottyarwood> what do you mean by re-do it?
[18:06] <Aaruni> Guest63462: do you have 32bit, or 64 bit?
[18:06] <daftykins> scottyarwood: i think your command may have had two slashes by mistake, so "rm" it as above again, then repeat the command but check that it doesn't have "//"
[18:06] <Guest68673> Aaruni, 32 bit brother
[18:06] <daftykins> SuperLag: does root owning the symlink to the plugin not matter? i guess it appears 777'd so no issue?
[18:07] <unknown> not doing noting just wacthing see how good yous are
[18:07] <scottyarwood> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7175430/
[18:07] <scottyarwood> I pasted the results again for you
[18:08] <daftykins> scottyarwood: that looks good. so how does chrome's plugin page look now?
[18:08] <scottyarwood> I'll check
[18:08] <Aaruni> Guest63462: tar -xvzf hybrid <press tab to auto-complete>
[18:09] <Aaruni> then cd hybrid <press tab to auto-complete>
[18:10] <Aaruni> Guest68673: make && sudo make install && sudo update-iniramfs -u && sudo reboot
[18:10] <scottyarwood> It appears!!!
[18:10] <daftykins> Aaruni: typo'd initramfs
[18:10] <Aaruni> oops
[18:10] <Aaruni> Guest68673: still there?
[18:11] <daftykins> scottyarwood: ;) very good. thing you tried to run works now?
[18:11] <Guest68673> yes
[18:11] <Guest68673> Aaruni, yes, trying to catch,
[18:11] <unknown> https://silkroad6ownowfk.onion.to/login
[18:11] <Aaruni> Guest68673: untar the file, cd into the directory, then ping me
[18:11] <scottyarwood> I'm checking if it runs
[18:12] <OerHeks> !ot | unknown
[18:12] <unknown> https://silkroad6ownowfk.onion.to/login
[18:12] <unknown> https://silkroad6ownowfk.onion.to/login
[18:12] <unknown> https://silkroad6ownowfk.onion.to/login
[18:12] <Aaruni> !kick| unknown
[18:12] <unknown> tor
[18:12] <scottyarwood> It works!!!
[18:12] <unknown> kick me see what ill do
[18:12] <scottyarwood> Thank you so much!!!
[18:12] <unknown> trust me
[18:12] <scottyarwood> I couldn't have done this without you!!!
[18:12] <daftykins> scottyarwood: so if you take the above and re-run it in the mozilla folder you can get firefox working too
[18:12] <OerHeks> !ops | unknown
[18:13] <DJones> unknown: Stop that
[18:13] <daftykins> scottyarwood: no worries ;)
[18:13] <scottyarwood> should I do it for firefox? I don't ever use firefox anyways
[18:14] <scottyarwood> well, I'll go now.
[18:14] <scottyarwood> Thanks for everything everybody
[18:15] <macdabby> having issues adding a second route .. so if i: route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth1 , i can’t ping <IP_ADDRESS>. i get ‘From <IP_ADDRESS> … Destination Host Unreachable’ … but that <IP_ADDRESS> is the local ip of eth1
[18:15] <daftykins> SuperLag: so a typo could've been all it was :(
[18:18] <macdabby> also when i tried to add the route with a gateway, it wont let me , unless i first add one without a gateway… is that normal? i end up with this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/bbf9e63ed16c866685f7
[18:18] <daftykins> macdabby: ugh you can't have two default gateways XD
[18:19] <unknown> help with aircrack-ng lol :)?
[18:19] <scelis> Can anyone help me with a daemontools issue? The logging of my service doesn't seem to be working. The directory and logfile are never created. https://gist.github.com/scelis/ca9d012cacc5022dbd24
[18:19] <macdabby> daftykins: i’m not trying to .. i’m just trying to use eth1 as the gateway for <IP_ADDRESS>/24 …. and <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[18:20] <unknown> aircrack-ng -01.cap !? -w /home/???/darkc0de.lst
[18:20] <macdabby> daftykins: i tried removing the 3rd line (the other UG) and i still get the same result… destination unreachable
[18:20] <daftykins> macdabby: all your clients need to know is those other networks exist, they will reach out to your *one* default gateway to send to them, you don't specify a gateway per net
[18:21] <peterpacz1> Hello guys.
[18:21] <peterpacz1> I think I might messed up my linux installation in a pretty severe way :(
[18:21] <peterpacz1> Can someone help me?
[18:21] <daftykins> peterpacz1: what did you do? on one line if you can.
[18:21] <peterpacz1> Actually
[18:21] <basiclaser> hey guys, i want to make an 'app' patch that i can share amongst linux/debian/ubuntu users which will perform mathematical operations on the displayed system time, without effecting the underlying system clocks dependencies. Just augmenting the visual widget
[18:22] <cfhowlett> unknown, not supported here
[18:22] <peterpacz1> draftykins: I'll take several lines to explain - but I made a ask ubuntu question, you can see the explaination there: https://askubuntu.com/questions/440834/grub-rescue-mode-installed-debian-on-usb-and-original-ubuntu-13-10-system-doe
[18:22] <peterpacz1> In short, I think I broke my master boot record
[18:22] <macdabby> daftykins: i was having a problem with that tho, where my 9.0 address was tryign to connect to this box … it can connect on eth0 or eth1 because 9.0 is a VPN … if it connects through eth1, i think its trying to send its response out through eth0 so it never makes it back
[18:22] <clue_h> basiclaser, what will it do with system time?
[18:23] <Aaruni> peterpacz1: try boot-repair from a live USB
[18:23] <clue_h> basiclaser, #ubuntu-devel
[18:23] <macdabby> daftykins: but 8.0 is kind of the public network, so all private connections over 9.0 should go through the private network on eth1
[18:23] <daftykins> macdabby: i'm sorry but i think your entire setup is far more complex than it should be, i don't see why you're trying to setup 4 networks at home, but being able to blind ping between them certainly isn't anything to do with security
[18:24] <peterpacz1> Aaruni: Can you elaborate?
[18:24] <Aaruni> peterpacz1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:24] <smartracer> hi i have ubuntu 11.04.a old unsupported version of ubuntu.but can i get packages to play media files for that? how can i get them in single package?
[18:25] <daftykins> smartracer: it's unsupported which means game over i'm afraid
[18:25] <macdabby> daftykins: network 1 = webservers, network 2 = puppet, databases, etc … they will all communicat together through the second network
[18:26] <macdabby> daftykins: if i need to be able to administrate them, i’d like to be able to log in through the VPN then ssh into the web server or any of the servers on the second network
[18:26] <tb01110100> I'm just wondering what canonical's reasoning is behind "locking down" the root account?
[18:26] <macdabby> daftykins: but i dont want any of those servers to be on the public side of the network
[18:26] <smartracer> yes i know but i need packages.i searched and find some packages.but i cant find media packages
[18:26] <smartracer> as a single package.
[18:26] <Guest68673> Aaruni, file is untared but can not locate it
[18:27] <daftykins> macdabby: you might have more luck chatting in #networking or ##networking, i can't follow that stuff without diagrams and details :)
[18:27] <macdabby> daftykins: lol cool good idea - thanks!
[18:27] <Aaruni> Guest68673: it should be untared into the same directory as the *.tar
[18:27] <basiclaser> clue_h: it will display a division of the current time
[18:27] <basiclaser> thanks
[18:28] <Guest68673> Aaruni, can i paste the result here for u?
[18:28] <daftykins> !paste | Guest68673
[18:28] <mix> hey guys
[18:28] <Aaruni> Guest68673: I don't think channel allows for pasting. you are free to PM me
[18:28] <mix> is there any sharepoint like solutions on apt?
[18:31] <belak> Is there an easy way to tell if a package can be backported?
[18:31] <scelis> hmmm, restarting the box made the log service start. not sure why svscan didn't do it automatically
[18:31] <belak> Well, get a general idea?
[18:31] <Flannel> belak: If all of the packages it depends on are versionless and/or their minimum version requirements are already satisfied by the release you're backporting to.
[18:32] <IdleOne> belak: all packages can be backported. The real question is can it be done easily and is it worth the devs time to
[18:32] <Flannel> belak: If not, you'll have to start backporting those other ones, and then you *may* open a can of worms (or may not, if those other ones have easy dependencies)
[18:32] <belak> Ah, ok... just noticed there isn't even a package for glfw3 yet
[18:33] <Vyom> Who likes GNome more than Unity here?
[18:34] <IdleOne> Vyom: Do you have a support question? Polls are better for #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:34] <Flannel> belak: That may/may not be "backporting" then, it's likely more just "packaging"
[18:34] <Vyom> ah, thanks IdleOne
[18:34] <belak> Yeah
[18:34] <belak> Thanks
[18:35] <Flannel> belak: But the same questions apply for older versions: Do the versions of dependencies satisfy easily (in the older ones)? or are you going to have to backport half the world?
[18:36] <belak> Got it
[18:36] <belak> Thanks
[18:39] <Putdeksel> After an attempt to set up a VPN my server is no longer reachable from outside my network. And I have no idea where to look for.
[18:47] <sin> hy
[18:48] <yabtzok> hi, anyone know the name of the package needed to install different repositories ? (im on a custom ubuntu build without those)
[18:49] <mix> hmm seem to be stuck on retrieving packages in the text install
[18:53] <yabtzok> bash: add-repository: command not found
[18:53] <yabtzok> what can i do? i need this package
[18:53] <Aaruni> yabtzok: wasn't it apt-add-repository ?
[18:54] <yabtzok> thank you Aaruni , also found out what package i needed :"software-properties-common"
[18:54] <Aaruni> :)
[18:57] <ddssc> mouse sensitivity settings have no effect whatsoever. how can I speed up my mouse?
[18:57] <Evvvvy> Hey quick question: I'm going to dual boot Windows and Ubuntu.  I just want to increase my mouse sensitivity...
[19:03] <brontosaurusrex> ddssc, xset ?
[19:03] <ddssc> xset
[19:03] <ddssc> brontosaurusrex: which value should I set here?
[19:03]  * Dragoneye soved it :-)
[19:03] <brontosaurusrex> ddssc, I can post my toggle-type script if you wish, but its slightly hardcoded
[19:04]  * Dragoneye s/soved/solved/
[19:04] <brontosaurusrex> ddssc, i have: xset m 1/3 1
[19:04] <ddssc> brontosaurusrex: paste it
[19:05] <brontosaurusrex> for the more-sensitive version
[19:05] <brontosaurusrex> ddssc, http://paste.debian.net/plain/90457
[19:05] <ddssc> I figure its possible to set it up with xinput but i've no clue what any of those values mean... there's no Sensitivty variable ..
[19:08] <skinofstars> hi guys. i'm having some problems with nfs shares. i'm getting "exportfs /home/username/dir  does not support NFS export"
[19:09] <Guest55668> hi all
[19:09] <skinofstars> this is on a lucid box
[19:09] <ddssc> brontosaurusrex: sry I've no idea what your script does
[19:09] <Guest55668> which card is bether Intel gma 950 or Ati X1300 pro@
[19:10] <Guest55668> 10x in advise
[19:10] <ddssc> hey how can I manually set my mouse sensitivity?
[19:11] <brontosaurusrex> ddssc, try xset m 1/3 1
[19:11] <brontosaurusrex> and see what happens ...
[19:11] <skinofstars> ddssc: press the meta key (windows key?) amnd type mouse. it'll bring up the mouse settings thing
[19:12] <Brutusss> Hi I got a new computer and wanted to run windows 7 to play games next to ubuntu. I installed windows 7 and installed ubuntu on another partition but i can't select it when i boot my computer
[19:13] <cryptomat> Hi, I know my question is not linux  related but I know there is a lot of brilliant peoples here so I'm gonna give it a try. I need a way to print text on a paper and transfer it on a textured certificate. Anybody have an idea for me ? I've been looking like crazy for the past two days... :)
[19:13] <ddssc> skinofstars: where do I type mouse? terminal?
[19:13] <skinofstars> ddssc: nah, the unity search box
[19:13] <ddssc> skinofstars: ... i know how to get to mouse settings. it's just that the settings have no effect
[19:13] <skinofstars> Brutusss: you need to change your grub time. see this http://askubuntu.com/questions/87409/i-cant-get-grub-menu-to-show-up-during-boot
[19:14] <OerHeks> cryptomat, what do you mean with "textured certificate" ?
[19:14] <Brutusss> http://askubuntu.com/questions/87409/i-cant-get-grub-menu-to-show-up-during-boot
[19:14] <Brutusss> oh sorry wrong key
[19:14] <cryptomat> OerHeks: Card Board (Not a plain surface)
[19:14] <skinofstars> ddssc: perhaps try brontosaurusrex's suggestion
[19:14] <Brutusss> skinofstars: that looks great but I can't get into ubuntu
[19:14] <Brutusss> I can't select it, it automatically goes to windows
[19:15] <OerHeks> cryptomat, glue?
[19:15] <ddssc> skinofstars: dont think his script does what i need
[19:15] <skinofstars> Brutusss: ahh, did you not select 'update master boot record' when you installed ubuntu?
[19:15] <Guest55668> bye
[19:16] <skinofstars> ddssc: sorry, i don't know the answer then. perhaps ask the room again
[19:16] <OerHeks> cryptomat, if you want to print on an non-level surface, you will need a lazer i guess
[19:16] <Brutusss> I didn't see the option
[19:16] <cryptomat> OerHeks: I want to transfer the text, as if it had been printed directly on the certificate, to make it look more professional than just a sticker or glued text... :/
[19:16] <skinofstars> Brutusss: youu'll be able to reinstall the MBR from a live cd
[19:16] <Brutusss> I selected the partition and didn't see any option for that
[19:17] <skinofstars> Brutusss: it may have been automatic then. you need to look up booting to grub.
[19:17] <Brutusss> let me try to work with this
[19:17] <OerHeks> cryptomat, ah i see, if the certificate is smaller than a A4 or legal paper, you might want to stick it with scotch tape, that is easily removable
[19:18] <OerHeks> and hope it would not jam your printer
[19:18] <skinofst1rs> so, has anyone had problems with nfs on 12.04?
[19:19] <cryptomat> OerHeks: Yes, I thought about that option but it will surely jam. I don't know if there is a printer on wich you can place smaller paper flat and the head move instead of the paper.... that would be a solution, I think :P
[19:21] <OerHeks> cryptomat, all transfer papers are for clothing and such, but i googled and found this one, with pics .. http://www.unexpectedelegance.com/2011/09/01/wax-paper-transfer-tutorial/
[19:21] <OerHeks> but that would be vague
[19:21] <bekks> !grub2 | Brutusss
[19:22] <cryptomat> OerHeks: Yea, already saw that page, unfortunatly it's not precise enough... :/
[19:23] <Brutusss> ubottu: i did it the other way around. i installed windows first, ubuntu never showed up
[19:23] <Brutusss> oh lol
[19:23] <mix> does anyone know of any sharepoint like services available to install from apt?
[19:24] <bekks> mix: what do you mean exactly? What are you looking for, in detail?
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> mix  zhqt should it be able to do
[19:25] <kostkon> !info zhqt
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> brb wrong keyb layout
[19:27] <owen1> what the android app that let me install linux distros from my phone?
[19:27] <gmachine_24> Brutuss did you try a boot repair disc?
[19:28] <Brutusss> how
[19:28] <bekks> Brutusss: Did you read the link given about repairing grub?
[19:28] <ddssc> owen1: the wi-fi button on your phone
[19:28] <gmachine_24> that's actually a yes or no question
[19:28] <zubuntu> hi there
[19:28] <Brutusss> yes bekks, can't figure out what to do with it
[19:29] <bekks> Brutusss: Reading it...
[19:29] <zubuntu> i ve several problems
[19:29] <bekks> Brutusss: It clearly describes what to do.
[19:29] <mix> bekks: share documents in a web interface
[19:29] <daftykins> zubuntu: please detail them on one line
[19:29] <bekks> mix: an ordinary webserver will do that, too.
[19:29] <zubuntu> 1.   i installed mirc via wine but /server -m anotherserver.irc  command doesnt work
[19:29] <Brutusss> did that
[19:29] <owen1> ddssc: there is an app that lets u chose a distro from a list
[19:29] <mix> mix: i mean being able to edit them etc
[19:29] <daftykins> zubuntu: why not use a native IRC client? :)
[19:30] <mix> mix: basically needs to be easy for my landlady to use :)
[19:30] <mix> why am i messaging myself?
[19:30] <mix> :D
[19:30] <ddssc> owen: okok, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+I+install+linux+from+phone
[19:30] <daftykins> only you can know
[19:30] <zubuntu> daftykins:  i am use to mirc :S
[19:30] <mix> lol
[19:30] <zubuntu> i have a lot of addons and scripts working on mirc
[19:30] <zubuntu> kvirc is ok but i didnt like interface, xchat is good but i couldnt manage addons and scripts
[19:30] <daftykins> zubuntu: :S ok are all your issues to do with mIRC under wine? :)
[19:30] <zubuntu> yes daftykins
[19:31] <zubuntu> as i said i tried to join here from another irc server but /server -m command didnt work
[19:31] <zubuntu> it seems simple issue but couldnt handle
[19:31] <gmachine_24> Brutusss: "did that" is not really very helpful
[19:31] <zubuntu> also wine doesnt work for many programs
[19:31] <daftykins> zubuntu: in that case you might want to speak with ##winehq instead, perhaps they can advise as to whether you're running things the right way
[19:31] <zubuntu> especially games
[19:31] <Brutusss> sorry gmachine_24, i read it a few times
[19:31] <Brutusss> i can't open the drive sda5, at least not from within the gui
[19:32] <bekks> Brutusss: Read _what_?
[19:32] <zubuntu> daftykins: ##winehq  is empty channel
[19:32] <daftykins> zubuntu: yeah if you want games then wine is more of a last option, steam has lots of natively linux games now
[19:32] <zubuntu> seems i am the founder now :p
[19:32] <Brutusss> the given link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87409/i-cant-get-grub-menu-to-show-up-during-boot
[19:32] <bekks> Brutusss: Why do you try to "open sda5"?
[19:32] <daftykins> zubuntu: ah, might be single #
[19:32] <Brutusss> i need to open that grub file?
[19:32] <k1l_> !wine | zubuntu
[19:32] <zubuntu> daftykins:  i have my pc game archieves
[19:32] <bekks> !grub2 | Brutusss
[19:32] <Brutusss> i can't open ubuntu at all so I'm in a live disk
[19:32] <zubuntu> i dont wanna pay extra with steam :S
[19:32] <bekks> Brutusss: Please read the links given.
[19:33] <gmachine_24> Brutusss: bekks has given the information needed
[19:33] <simpleuser> Hi there. Is there a way to zoom on my Xubuntu ? I’m using a small screen and it’s a bit small for my eyes. I remember that some years ago when I used to use Compiz, I could zoom on my screen with Super + Scroll
[19:33] <gmachine_24> or at least links to it
[19:33] <zubuntu> ok
[19:33] <Brutusss> oh right, i did try the boot-repair but my network card doesn't seem to function in the live disk so I can't install that from USB
[19:33] <bekks> Brutusss: Please follow the links given now.
[19:34] <Brutusss> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[19:34] <Brutusss> i can't do that, i need a working network connection for that :S
[19:34] <bekks> Brutusss: Obviously you are ignoring the people trying to help you. Good luck then with whatever you do.
[19:34] <zubuntu> 2.  problem..  i downloaded adobe reader.deb file from adobe site and installed.. then tried to remove but seems couldnt remove fully, so i installed via deb again but it doesnt appear in software center
[19:34] <Brutusss> bekks i'm absolutely not
[19:34] <Brutusss> i read the documentation, i can't continue with that
[19:34] <bekks> Brutusss: Why not?
[19:35] <Brutusss>  Brutusss> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[19:35] <Brutusss> 03/29/14:20:34:10 < Brutusss> i can't do that, i need a working network connection for that :S
[19:35] <k1l_> Brutusss: why doesnt the live cd have network? it should
[19:35] <Brutusss> k1l_: no idea, it shows the eth0 in ifconfig but it won't connect.
[19:35] <Brutusss> i have dhcp on my local network
[19:35] <Brutusss> no ipv4 address
[19:35] <k1l_> use the network manager in the panel
[19:36] <bekks> Brutusss: The links given do not even mention adding a boot repair PPA.  You did not read the links given, which have been told multiple times. So. Good luck.
[19:36] <Brutusss> settings for my network card seem to be correct. automatic dhcp. shows a wired connection.
[19:36] <Brutusss> bekks that line is from the documentation
[19:36] <gmachine_24> Brutusss: however you're connected now to the Internet, dl this and burn it to a cd and take it from there http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/
[19:36] <Brutusss> copy / paste
[19:37] <Brutusss> bekks: it says I need to install boot-repair so I follow the link to that and it tells me to add that line (with the ppa).
[19:37] <Brutusss> gmachine_24: yes i'm on another machine with irc
[19:37] <Brutusss> let me open that
[19:38] <bekks> Brutusss: And a few lines below it tells you a terminal way which does not need boot repair.
[19:38] <Brutusss> bekks: ohh now I feel like an idiot
[19:38] <gmachine_24> good
[19:39] <bekks> Brutusss: Please readd the entire articles before following links blindly.
[19:47] <bjwangshi> hi everybody
[19:53] <cere> ciao
[19:54] <owen1> in unetbootin i don't have an entry for 13.10. should i use '12.04 live' or 'daily live' instead?
[19:55] <clue_h> owen1, select iso instead
[19:56] <clue_h> and get 13.10 if you want it
[19:57] <owen1> clue_h: maybe since i run it from debian. should i use usb-creator-gtk (on my ubuntu laptop) instead of unetbootin?
[19:58] <clue_h> owen1, sure usb creator works ok
[19:59] <donvito> if i want file /var/etc/blabla.cfg to be updated everyweek what do i need to do?
[19:59] <clue_h> donvito, might want to checkout cron
[19:59] <k1l_> donvito: set a cronjob to "update" that file
[20:00] <donvito> i mean to be backuped
[20:00] <donvito> sorry
[20:00] <donvito> :(
[20:00] <owen1> clue_h: thanks!
[20:01] <owen1> where is ubuntu mounting the usb stick i just insert?
[20:01] <k1l_> donvito: see deja dup
[20:01] <k1l_> donvito: there you can say to backup that file every week
[20:01] <k1l_> owen1: if its unity desktop its /media/user/...
[20:03] <owen1> k1l_: yup. thanks
[20:03] <zubuntu> is there a way to change desktop icon styles ?
[20:04] <andishe> does any one know how to dl mathematica in linux
[20:04] <operaghostkv> it  should  be  auto mounted
[20:04] <zubuntu> like to remove shadow from icon labels and add background color ?
[20:04] <operaghostkv> are you using unity
[20:04] <zubuntu> 12.04 with gnome session fall back
[20:05] <owen1> i use i3 instead of unity. i also prefer a textbased wireless connection tool (like wicd). do i need to uninstall network-manager or there is no need.
[20:05] <k1l_> andishe: ask wolfram, its a commercial software
[20:05] <rww> owen1: if you're using some other network management system, you should probably remove network-manager. theoretically i think they don't conflict, but... they do.
[20:06] <operaghostkv> you should check their official site
[20:06] <owen1> rww: awesome. i'll do that.
[20:06] <owen1> does anyone uses ansible to install the software on his boxes?
[20:07] <xar-> owen1: ask in #ansible
[20:07] <owen1> also, when ejecting a usb drive, do i need to unmount it first or is it safe to just pull it out.
[20:07] <owen1> xar-: ok
[20:07] <k1l_> owen1: unmount it first
[20:07] <clue_h> owen1, best to unmount first
[20:07] <owen1> ok. since i don't use unity, i'll just use the 'sudo unmount' command.
[20:08] <clue_h> owen1, i think it's umount not unmount
[20:08] <owen1> yeah
[20:09] <operaghostkv> umount it then fdisk -l
[20:10] <operaghostkv> usb mass traveller should be at /dev/sdg or something
[20:10] <zubuntu> is there a way to change desktop icon styles ?
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> !themes | zubuntu
[20:11] <zubuntu> MonkeyDust:  i dont need theme :S
[20:11] <zubuntu> i just wanna tweak icons
[20:11] <operaghostkv> zubuntu: which DE are you using ?
[20:11] <zubuntu> ubuntu 12.04 with gnome look
[20:12] <operaghostkv> i used  gnome tweak tools
[20:12] <zubuntu> i wanna remove shadow
[20:12] <zubuntu> and add background
[20:12] <zubuntu> that s all
[20:12] <operaghostkv> works great
[20:13] <operaghostkv> there are gnome tweak tools
[20:13] <zubuntu> i installed ubuntu tweak
[20:13] <zubuntu> but there s no tweak for icons
[20:13] <basiclaser> guys what controls the displayed system time in Ubuntu ? unity/gnome based on system time right?
[20:13] <operaghostkv> not ubuntu tweak .gnome tweak
[20:14] <operaghostkv> o my ..i am talking to a wall
[20:14] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak
[20:14] <rww> !info unity-tweak-tool
[20:14] <zubuntu> operaghostkv:  i am installing it
[20:15] <zubuntu> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/gnome-tweak-tool/
[20:15] <zubuntu> thx
[20:15] <zubuntu> i ll give it a try
[20:15] <operaghostkv> ubuntu tweak tool is a tool to manage ubuntu itself
[20:16] <zubuntu> yea got it thx
[20:16] <k1l_> ubuntu tweak is really a big problem. its the similar stuff to the windows tweak things which promise to "speed up windows"
[20:16] <YokoBR> hey guys, i have a dell inspiron 3250 n4110, but i can't enable the discrete driver, ATI 7400 series
[20:17] <operaghostkv> you should tell us whether you are using open source driver
[20:18] <k1l_> YokoBR: did you try to install the fglrx from the official ubuntu repo?
[20:18] <zubuntu> operaghostkv:
[20:18] <operaghostkv> yes
[20:18] <zubuntu> sorry to tell but it didnt work
[20:18] <zubuntu> it has no option to change icon style, just it has icon theme which i dont want
[20:18] <YokoBR> nope, i've downloaded the driver from ati.com
[20:18] <YokoBR> kll_
[20:19] <YokoBR> k1l_
[20:19] <zubuntu> i wanna edit default icons for default theme
[20:19] <k1l_> zubuntu: then edit the icon theme
[20:19] <zubuntu> how will i ?
[20:19] <zubuntu> there s no edit option
[20:19] <k1l_> YokoBR: why that? why not use the ubunut driver?
[20:19] <k1l_> zubuntu: painting skills?
[20:19] <operaghostkv> you need to creat a theme using default icons
[20:19] <YokoBR> k1l_, idk, i aways do that.
[20:20] <k1l_> YokoBR: that is a bad old windows habbit
[20:20] <clue_h> zubuntu, it can be done in dconf, too long to say how here but this is a good description http://iloveubuntu.net/how-change-your-icon-theme-dconf-editor-ubuntu-1110 but just make sure you have the themes as it says at the end of the article
[20:20] <zubuntu> operaghostkv:  how comes ubuntu didnt put any option for that ?
[20:20] <YokoBR> k1l_, it's not that. I had an HP g42 and it was a pain to install those drivers.
[20:21] <YokoBR> That's an old hp habbit
[20:21] <k1l_> YokoBR: no excuse for that
[20:21] <k1l_> YokoBR: so please ask ati whats going wrong with their driver
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  canonical cannot add a functionality for the needs of one single individual
[20:21] <zubuntu> Appearance Properties have been dropped in Ubuntu 11.10
[20:21] <loonix103> in permissions what does the stand for? example -rwsr -xr -x
[20:22] <operaghostkv> zubuntu: you have too be kidding me.i change icons open on ubuntu
[20:22] <loonix103> "s" stand for
[20:22] <operaghostkv> often
[20:22] <k1l_> zubuntu: please see gnome documentation if your wishes are even possible in gnome desktop
[20:22] <zubuntu> they can put tools for alltogether
[20:22] <YokoBR> linux proprietary gpu drivers are lame, aways.
[20:22] <k1l_> zubuntu: ubuntu 11.10? o_O
[20:22] <zubuntu> k1l_:  it says in documentation
[20:22] <zubuntu> not me
[20:22] <zubuntu> http://iloveubuntu.net/how-change-your-icon-theme-dconf-editor-ubuntu-1110
[20:22] <zubuntu> first sentence
[20:23] <k1l_> zubuntu: do you have ubuntu 11.10?
[20:23] <k1l_> zubuntu: you are wildly mixing up things here
[20:23] <zubuntu> no i wanted to make a point that after 11.04 everything has been changed
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[20:23] <zubuntu> they added unity
[20:24] <zubuntu> and they removed some tools
[20:24] <k1l_> zubuntu: ask gnome what changed in that time m(
[20:24] <zubuntu> also they removed open office
[20:24] <k1l_> zubuntu: come on
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  it's now libre office
[20:24] <xangua> zubuntu: they added gnome3, libreoffice is the new openoffice
[20:24] <zubuntu> libreoffice is not openoffice
[20:24] <zubuntu> totally different
[20:24] <cisconinja> how to export gui from 13.10 terminal to windows 7 on a different machine
[20:24] <rww> and Ubuntu's OpenOffice had a bunch of patches that are in Libreoffice anyway
[20:24] <operaghostkv> you can keep using 10.04.no one stops you
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  no, that's why it has a different name
[20:24] <k1l_> zubuntu: you blame ubuntu for everything, including waldsterben and climate change?
[20:24] <rww> operaghostkv: security vulnerabilities should
[20:25] <zubuntu> 10.04 was nice but soon it wont be supported
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  to avoid windows xp scenario's (12 year support)
[20:25] <k1l_> zubuntu: sry, but you have no idea what was going on with openoffice and libreoffice. so stop judging that.
[20:25] <zubuntu> k1l_:  nope i just blame that they change everything all of sudden
[20:26] <zubuntu> k1l_:   well some apps can have fans :p
[20:26] <k1l_> you really have no clue. so stop making drama out of this
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  but not enough to continue support for it
[20:26] <zubuntu> k1l_:  u r being rude
[20:26] <zubuntu> i am just critisizing
[20:27] <rww> Let's get back to Ubuntu support, folks
[20:27] <zubuntu> look for just single edit i am googling about 1 hour
[20:27] <operaghostkv> you cant blame them .one day you make a os yourself .u can make any change you want
[20:27] <k1l_> zubuntu: no, you are mixing up things because ubuntu/canonical doesnt do exactly like you wish to. there are alot more users with other interests than yours. so if you want another icon theme, go and make it
[20:27] <zubuntu> i love ubuntu but some changes made me upset that s all
[20:28] <zubuntu> k1l_:   i dont think they asked users UNITY or gnome look
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  that's called 'growing up'
[20:28] <zubuntu> that s called " being commercial " maybe :)
[20:28] <operaghostkv> then don't use ubuntu .
[20:28] <k1l_> zubuntu: again: ask gnome what was wrong with gnome2. dont blame ubuntu
[20:29] <zubuntu> whatever
[20:29] <operaghostkv> you need gentoo boy !
[20:29] <clue_h> zubuntu, did dconf work?
[20:29] <ikonia> operaghostkv: please don't make such silly statements
[20:29] <zubuntu> clue_h:  i am reading it
[20:29] <zubuntu> i was *
[20:29] <operaghostkv> sorry
[20:31] <owen1> i boot my laptop with the ubuntu usb. i pick 'install ubuntu' and after 10 seconds my laptop shutdown.
[20:31] <operaghostkv> did you used xcfe4?
[20:31] <owen1> running 'check disk for errors' now
[20:32] <operaghostkv> any results ?
[20:32] <owen1> it's still checking bunch of files.
[20:32] <owen1> 'no errors found'
[20:32] <owen1> not sure what to do
[20:33] <owen1> what's 'OEM install' ?
[20:33] <operaghostkv> after 10s ..did you see any output during the 10s ?
[20:33] <owen1> i guess i can 'try ubuntu without installing'
[20:33] <owen1> operaghostkv: i can't remember. let me try ubuntu without installing
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> owen1  oem = original equipment manufacturer, iirc
[20:34] <owen1> on no! even 'try without installing' shutdown my laptop.
[20:34] <operaghostkv> or it is just go blank all at sudden
[20:34] <owen1> operaghostkv: i didn't notice any errors on the screen though. let me try again.
[20:34] <Affy> I just installed oracle-java8-installer from webupd8 ppa, but I can't run .jar files. I tried to "run as" oracle web start but it gave an error.
[20:34] <RainMan28> Hi all. I am trying to get the MOTD on ubuntu's latest version to work. I have created a new script in /etc/update-motd.d/ and made it executable. I've waited 10 minutes, and am still not seeing it upon SSH login. I'm authenticating via public key rather than password. Could anyone help? Thanks.
[20:35] <zubuntu> clue_h: i installed dconf
[20:35] <zubuntu> i did what it says in your link
[20:35] <zubuntu> ubuntu-mono-dark chosen
[20:35] <zubuntu> but still there s no option to edit it
[20:35] <clue_h> zubuntu, and it worked? bearing in mind you have to have the theme
[20:35] <clue_h> that is editing it
[20:36] <zubuntu> theme is already in system i guess
[20:36] <clue_h> so you want to change the theme then edit the theme?
[20:36] <owen1> operaghostkv: now it died again, but it took about a minute. the ubuntu purple screen was displayed and than it just died.
[20:36] <zubuntu> what exactly dconf do ?
[20:36] <owen1> no errors on the screen. what a bummer.
[20:36] <trism> RainMan28: can you pastebin the script? and what is the name?
[20:36] <kike_> Good afternoon everybody
[20:37] <owen1> i guess ubuntu is not ready for the masses.
[20:37] <clue_h> zubuntu, it's all the settings pulled from various configs for you to change
[20:37] <Rad-> color me confused. what does vim need gtk and gnome for?
[20:37] <Rad-> http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/vim-gtk
[20:37] <Beldar> owen1, Have you checked the sum of the download?
[20:37] <clue_h> owen1, tends to work more often burning the iso to a cd rom or dvd
[20:37] <ikonia> owen1: guess you're not ready for ubuntu - because YOU can't install it please don't take nonsense about it "not being ready for the masse"
[20:37] <RainMan28> trism: sure, the name of the script is 01-custom-header  pastebin: http://pastebin.com/7421Z9yw
[20:37] <k1l_> Rad-: its vom-gtk
[20:37] <k1l_> *vim
[20:38] <owen1> Beldar: no. great idea.
[20:38] <Rad-> k1l_:  yeah what does vim need gtk for?
[20:38] <Rad-> i'm confused.
[20:38] <k1l_> Rad-: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/vim
[20:38] <RainMan28> trism: I also tried doing sudo /usr/sbin/update-motd but it says command not found
[20:39] <operaghostkv> owen1: did the power go off .or just the screen which is the power is still up ?
[20:39] <owen1> operaghostkv: power went off
[20:39] <k1l_> Rad-: i bet its some gui-vim. to run as a gui programm and not only in temrinal
[20:39] <Rad-> k1l_:  oh..
[20:39] <ikonia> k1l_: vim-gtk, the old X11 interface
[20:39] <ich> could anyone here answer a kernel question for me?
[20:39] <Rad-> thamls
[20:39] <clue_h> whats the question
[20:40] <Rad-> thanks*
[20:40] <ich> I'm looking into updating my crunchbang install to run one of the newer ubuntu kernels. Could anyone tell me what the difference between 3.13.17 - generic and 3.13.17 - low latency is?
[20:40] <bekks> !crunchbang | ich
[20:40] <owen1> Beldar: checksum is ok
[20:40] <xangua> Inc`: only ubuntu and official derivates are supported here
[20:40] <xubuntu> hi
[20:40] <trism> RainMan28: yeah it will be automatically run at login by pam-motd, and the script looks fine, if you, say, create/append to /etc/motd.tail, does that show up? maybe the scripts aren't being executed at all
[20:40] <bekks> owen1: how did you check the checksum?
[20:40] <ich> I'm not looking for help in the process. I know how to do it. I'm just asking what the difference is between the two kernels
[20:40] <trism> RainMan28: assuming you have the 99-footer still there
[20:40] <Rad-> ich: i'm guessing one is low latency......
[20:41] <Guest47450> hey guys
[20:41] <RainMan28> trism: yes, I still have the 99-footer. I have usePAM no in my sshd_config, should I set that to yes?
[20:41] <ikonia> ich: you are looking for help - hence why you are asking for help, please take it to #crunchbang where I have responded to your question to help you
[20:41] <operaghostkv> looks like it is the problem of power manage driver .it should be ok if you turn it off
[20:41] <Beldar> owen1, So this a unetbootin loaded usb or using the startup disc creator in ubuntu?
[20:41] <trism> RainMan28: yeah that is probably your problem then
[20:41] <owen1> bekks: md5sum ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso => 21ec41563ff34da27d4a0b56f2680c4f
[20:42] <bekks> operaghostkv: we dont know anything about the reason.
[20:42] <owen1> Beldar: i used unetbootin
[20:42] <RainMan28> trism: ok I see. Someone had told me to set that to no because I'm authenticating via public key vs password
[20:42] <RainMan28> trism: just changed it back to yes. Is there any way to manually update the cronjob for motd?
[20:43] <owen1> Beldar: i can try disk creator if u think it matters
[20:43] <trism> RainMan28: it should execute everytime you log in
[20:43] <RainMan28> trism: hmm I just stopped and restarted SSH service, then tried logging in. Now I remember why someone told me to turn off usePAM. I'm now seeing the custom script but its printing two MOTDs
[20:43] <trism> RainMan28: some stuff like updates-available can get stale, but that is only because they are cached
[20:44] <Beldar> owen1, I would try it yeah, in the end I have seen usb loaders fail on occasion, and iso's with a good sum not work, not ofyen, but it happens.
[20:44] <bekks> owen1: you could try booting without "quiet splash" as boot options.
[20:44] <owen1> bekks: great. how do i do that?
[20:44] <trism> RainMan28: that's weird, I use ssh with public keys just fine
[20:44] <kike_> does someone know how can i mount (from fstab) the windows 8 partition in Read Only. It's cause I don't wat to use the 'remove_hiberfile' to gain write access
[20:45] <RainMan28> trism: hmm so if i do usePAM yes and PrintMOTD no then I only have it show once
[20:45] <bekks> owen1: by removing the named options in the boot menu entry prior booting that entry.
[20:45] <trism> RainMan28: ah nice
[20:45] <RainMan28> RainMan28: i haven't done anything to the stock install besides update it and also install update-motd
[20:45] <owen1> bekks: i am not following you. i insert the usb, boot my  laptop. what's next?
[20:45] <bekks> kike_: you have to remove that hiberfile before being able to mount it.
[20:46] <bekks> owen1: you insert the usb. in the boot menu, remove the named options. then boot.
[20:46] <owen1> bekks: if there is a text-based install, it would be awesome, btw.
[20:46] <bekks> owen1: you can use the server install iso for a text install.
[20:46] <kike_> bekks, I can mount it now without doing that using the -r of the mount command
[20:46] <owen1> bekks: let me boot my laptop again.
[20:46] <kike_> i was wondwering i there is something like -r to write in fstab
[20:47] <ikonia> like -r ?
[20:47] <kike_> or am i wrong?
[20:47] <trism> RainMan28: ahh the update-motd is what is messing you up: The functionality formerly provided by this package is now integrated into pam_motd, in libpam-modules.
[20:47] <zubuntu> i want like this : http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com.tr/2012/09/how-to-make-desktop-icons-text.html
[20:47] <ikonia> kike_: what do you mean ?
[20:47] <bekks> kike_: "ro".
[20:47] <RainMan28> trism: should i remove update-motd ?
[20:47] <owen1> bekks: should i hit 'e' to edit the commmands?
[20:47] <operaghostkv> turn
[20:47] <bekks> owen1: that for editing, yes.
[20:47] <operaghostkv> he y
[20:48] <kike_> bekks, i'll try ro the.  ikonia, trying to mount the windows disk on boot time. but in read only.
[20:48] <owen1> bekks: ok. i see quiet splash --
[20:48] <ikonia> the ntfs driver on it's own is ready only, or as you've been told "ro" (read only) is the mount option
[20:48] <operaghostkv> turn of acpi and try again ?owen
[20:49] <kike_> i think i dont really understand at all how or what fstab does
[20:49] <owen1> operaghostkv: one sec. i remove 'quiet splash'
[20:49] <kike_> commands if fstab are used for mount at boot time? or is it other command?
[20:49] <owen1> operaghostkv: if it fails i'll try acpi stuff.
[20:50] <owen1> bekks: i removed those 2 words, hit f10 and it crashed.
[20:50] <owen1> operaghostkv: plan b - how do i turn off acpi
[20:50] <bekks> owen1: And you didnt remember the screen content I guess?
[20:50] <kike_> By the way. Xubuntu + SSD disk. Really amazing. less than 3 seconds booting
[20:51] <ikonia> who cares about boot time
[20:51] <ikonia> in some ways that can be a very bad thing
[20:51] <owen1> bekks: not sure what u'r asking
[20:51] <RainMan28> all about uptime AMIRITE
[20:51] <kike_> ok. less than half a secong launching gimp :)
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> !fstab | kike_ do some reading here
[20:51] <ikonia> kike_: again that is very unlikley
[20:51] <toZen> kike_: what???
[20:51] <ikonia> kike_: as it takes longer than  second to load the plugins from RAM - so less than .5 of a second from disk, its just lies
[20:51] <operaghostkv> add acpi=off
[20:51] <bekks> owen1: actually "it crashed" means nothing valuable. try to remember what was on the screen when it crashed.
[20:51] <trism> RainMan28: yeah I think it would be a good idea
[20:52] <owen1> operaghostkv: acpi=off at the end of that line?
[20:52] <kike_> ikonia, ok then. as you wish.
[20:52] <operaghostkv> google it i dont remember exactly
[20:52] <kike_> MonkeyDust, thanks, will read it!
[20:52] <bekks> owen1: before the --
[20:52] <owen1> bekks: thanks
[20:52] <RainMan28> trism: ok removed it, usePAM yes , PrintMotd no
[20:52] <RainMan28> trism: still working perfectly
[20:54] <owen1> bekks: operaghostkv ubuntu purple screen with dots. looks promising
[20:54] <owen1> the dots are changing so it's a good sign
[20:54] <bekks> owen1: it isnt.
[20:54] <operaghostkv> is your laptop dell ?
[20:55] <owen1> thinkpad x120e
[20:55] <bekks> owen1: dots changing indicate nothing, in fact.
[20:55] <owen1> got on error!
[20:55] <owen1> busybox bla bla bla.
[20:55] <bekks> owen1: In fact, that "bla bla bla" is important.
[20:55] <owen1> (initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[20:56] <YokoBR> guys, i've installed fglrx on my dell inspiron 14r 3250 n4110 but still can't enable the discrete gpu
[20:56] <bekks> owen1: so your usb medium is broken. you cannot use it for installing anything.
[20:56] <bekks> owen1: you should recreate it.
[20:56] <owen1> bekks: ok. different usb or use usb-creator-gtk instead of unetbootin?
[20:57] <bekks> !usb | owen1
[20:58] <kike_> ubottu, thanks for the link. I didn't knew i can mount net folders like that.
[20:58] <owen1> bekks: reading your links. thanks
[20:58] <apb1963> I'm trying to filter out syslog messages....  I wrote a simple filter:
[20:58] <apb1963> if $programname == 'dhclient3' then /var/log/dhclient.log
[20:58] <kike_> MonkeyDust then lol  thanks for the link. I didn't knew i can mount net folders like that.
[20:58] <apb1963> & ~
[20:59] <bekks> apb1963: Are you aware of the fact that syslog provides the facility to log differents events from differents programs into different files?
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> kike_  we're here to learn
[20:59] <owen1> do i need to run usb-creator-gtk as sudoL
[20:59] <owen1> ?
[20:59] <apb1963> but it doesn't do what I want..... which is to say send dhclient messages to the other log, but not to syslog.
[21:00] <bekks> owen1: I bet thats mentioned in the links given
[21:00] <apb1963> bekks: I was under the impression that's what I was attempting to do.  Am I wrong?
[21:00] <bekks> apb1963: you are wrong. you just gave us a code snippet, without any context.
[21:01] <bekks> apb1963: what does your syslog config look like?
[21:01] <alexandre> hai
[21:02] <apb1963> bekks: 639 ms lag time... just so you know.
[21:02] <apb1963> bekks: Here's what's in my /etc/rsyslog.d/my_dhclient.conf file:
[21:02] <operaghostkv> recreat it would change anything
[21:02] <apb1963> if $programname == 'dhclient3' then /var/log/dhclient.log
[21:02] <apb1963> & ~
[21:03] <bekks> apb1963: whats the entire config, not just a single line.
[21:03] <apb1963> bekks: That's the entire file.
[21:04] <bekks> apb1963: So the rest of the rsyslog config is empty?
[21:04] <NEone> Hi. Got a notebook with hybrid graphics. Win7 as host system, Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS 64-bit as guest system. How do I tell the Ubuntu guest to use the better Nvidia GPU instead of the simple IntelHD onboard GPU? I want to use openGL and I can't.
[21:05] <k1l_> NEone: make sure windows can give the Vm that card
[21:06] <apb1963> Here's my /etc/rsyslog.conf http://ix.io/bky
[21:06] <NEone> How? I googled the whole internet and re-built the VM several times. I'm out of luck:(
[21:07] <bekks> !optimus | NEone
[21:07] <apb1963> bekks: and my /etc/rsyslog.d/050-default.conf http://ix.io/bkx
[21:07] <bekks> NEone: Inside a vm, you do not use nvidia or intel. you use whatever your virtualization software offers you.
[21:08] <JimmyRustles> NEone,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/23238/how-can-i-find-what-video-driver-is-in-use-on-my-system
[21:08] <apb1963> bekks: Here's my /etc/rsyslog.conf http://ix.io/bky
[21:11] <kike_> is it ok if one hard drive has UUID="2518a0df-9c28-4bbb-a07d-d62b30ccf00a"  and in other disk it's UUID="70B6E4DBB6E4A338"
[21:11] <bekks> kike_: UUIDs are irrelevant, as long as they are different.
[21:11] <kike_> looks different numbers, first is much longer... looks strange to me
[21:12] <bekks> kike_: totally irrelevant, in fact.
[21:12] <chndn> how to install third party software in ubuntu 13.10
[21:12] <kike_> bekks, thanks ok. :)
[21:12] <owen1> i am trying to use usb-creator-gtk but from some reason it tells my my usb is full eventhough i manually deleted it's content.
[21:12] <chndn> i m a beginner
[21:12] <owen1> what is going on?
[21:12] <apb1963> bekks: Had to restart Konversation, was running like a snail.  A little better now.  I missed any response you might have given.
[21:13] <chndn> heyy
[21:13] <owen1> and if hitting the 'erase' button tell me: 'org.freedesktop.UDisks.Error.Busy: There is already a job running'
[21:13] <chndn> somebody please help me
[21:13] <owen1> so i am lost
[21:13] <k1l_> chndn: which software?
[21:14] <chndn> my dongle drivers...
[21:14] <chndn> airtel
[21:14] <k1l_> erm, is it a 3g dongle?
[21:14] <k1l_> do they ship linux/ubuntu software packages
[21:14] <chndn> yup...
[21:15] <chndn> ya
[21:15] <chndn> they do
[21:15] <k1l_> most times you dont need 3rd party software for dongles
[21:15] <k1l_> insert the dongle and look up the usbid in lsusb
[21:15] <chndn> i dont knw much in ubuntu
[21:16] <chndn> wait
[21:16] <chndn> ok
[21:16] <chndn> in the terminal window right
[21:17] <k1l_> yes
[21:17] <kike_> Ok. i think I'm gonna try this "UUID=70B6E4DBB6E4A338 /media/windows8/ ntfs-3g defaults,ro,errors=remount-ro,noatime 0 1"
[21:18] <kike_> I hope I can boot it again ...
[21:19] <chndn> i can see the usb id now
[21:19] <chndn> wat nxt?
[21:19] <k1l_> tell it here please
[21:19] <ole__> nick ole_oz6oh
[21:20] <RainMan28> how safe is an ubuntu vanilla install with ssh on port 23, facing the internet? I have ssh set to PermitRootLogin no and am logging in via public-key only
[21:20] <chndn> bus 001 device 018: id 19d2:1254
[21:20] <chndn> zte wcdma technologies msm
[21:21] <ole__> nick ole_oz6oh
[21:21] <k1l_> chndn: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1822933
[21:21] <oliver_> Is there a simply way of creating a dfs in linux? Possibly through a gui?
[21:21] <k1l_> ole__: make a / in front
[21:22] <chndn> ok
[21:22] <ole_oz6oh> hello from ole in denmark running with ubuntu 13.10
[21:23] <ole_oz6oh> k1l  thanks
[21:24] <Sanka9> Quick question. Just installed 12.04.4, was using 12.04.3 I believe, the latest distro which uses the precise kernel stack.  My radeon card is ati 5770 juniper. I am curious as to why I am booting into unity 2d. Also, I did the install with two monitors, and both only work when 1 is turned off.  Almost as if it is seen as only one, though its technically detecting and showing two monitors in the system settings 'display', and xra
[21:24] <Sanka9> ndr.  Though different problems, I feel they are likely related to the same thing. The radeon driver. The original precise kernel stack worked beautifully with my radeon, I honestly didnt know that they did LTS hardware enablement and split the distro versioning
[21:25] <Sanka9> Any help is kindly appreciated. Thanks in avanced.
[21:25] <Sanka9> ole_oz6oh, hello!
[21:25] <oliver_> How can i create a shared file system?
[21:25] <ole_oz6oh> sanka9 hello
[21:25] <xar-> RainMan28: port 23 is unusual, but fine, usually I choose 2222 or 22222. If you're public/private key pair auth, you should disable password auth entirely in your sshd config.
[21:26] <Sanka9> ole_oz6oh, hopefully your having better luck with 13.10 than I did, lol!
[21:26] <zepman> hello
[21:26] <ole_oz6oh> sanka9  all is very good running here but ubuntu 14.04 is not good
[21:26] <Sanka9> oliver_, shared filesystem? NFS? Multipath? Distributed?
[21:27] <Sanka9> ole_oz6oh, hahahaha, I feel ya. Are you running radeon?
[21:27] <zepman> anyone can tell me where is the folder with the "start menu" in lubuntu?
[21:27] <ole_oz6oh> sanka no thats an del computer
[21:27] <oliver_> I need 350gb of space, but i only have 250gb hard drives - i think for windows its dfs?
[21:27] <ole_oz6oh> sanka9 a dell
[21:28] <Sanka9> zepman, what windows manager does ubuntu use? is it like fluxbox, or something like lxde?
[21:28] <zepman> lxde
[21:28] <Sanka9> ole_oz6oh, Same here.
[21:28] <owen1> i am trying to delete files from my usb drive and get wubi.exe’: Read-only file syste
[21:28] <Beldar> ole_oz6oh, You can tab complete nicks to get them correct.
[21:28] <Sanka9> ole_oz6oh, do you have a radeon driver?
[21:28] <owen1> (many files)
[21:28] <ole_oz6oh> sanka9 and i can run windowsn7 virtuel  very good also
[21:28] <owen1> even when i try to use sudo rm -r * i get this message
[21:28] <RainMan28> xar-: how can i completely remove password authentication?
[21:29] <YokoBR> guys, please, i've installed fglrx with sudo apt-get install fglrx but i can't enable the discrete driver....
[21:29] <Sanka9> owen1, you need to change the mount options, mount -o r,rw
[21:29] <owen1> Sanka9: let me try
[21:29] <ole_oz6oh> sanka9 i don't no my drivers name
[21:29] <k1l_> YokoBR: ?
[21:29] <k1l_> YokoBR: did you reboot?
[21:29] <oliver_> I found gfs... But i don't know if i can set it up for local hard drives..
[21:29] <Sanka9> owen1, you need to remount it manually via th ecommand line, you can use nautilus to unmount it.
[21:29] <YokoBR> k1l_ yep
[21:29] <RainMan28> xar-: is it just setting PasswordAuthentication to no?
[21:29] <zepman> i'd like to add an app installed with playonlinux, i got an icon on the desktop but not in the start menu
[21:29] <k1l_> and what is the issue now YokoBR ?
[21:29] <ole_oz6oh> sanka9 something with pci in terminal ??
[21:30] <Sanka9> ole_oz6oh, just for shits and giggles, can you run an 'lsmod|grep radeon' in your terminal?
[21:30] <Beldar> ugh
[21:30] <ole_oz6oh> sanka moment
[21:30] <rww> RainMan28: correct
[21:31] <Helena222> can somebody help me to install Ubuntu along Windows plus another partition? I need one partition for my music and etc and I the system says I can't create more than 3 primary ones
[21:31] <Sanka9> ole_oz6oh, nah, just do the one I wrote, the lspci .... shows VGA/etc... for detecting what type of radeon driver.
[21:31] <Beldar> Helena222, You on the live cd/usb now?
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> sanka9 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1d.3 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1)
[21:32] <unopaste`> ole_oz6oh you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01)
[21:32] <unopaste`> ole_oz6oh you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
[21:33] <Helena222> Hi thanks Beldar, no,I have Ubuntu and WIndows 8 installed together but need to make room for another NTFS partition to put my stuff
[21:33] <owen1> Sanka9: i use this script to mount - sudo mount /dev/$1 /media/usb/ -o r,rw uid=1000,gid=1000
[21:33] <owen1> but i get the same read only error
[21:33] <owen1> (the $1) is the argument i pass after observig dmesg
[21:33] <YokoBR> i've also tried this http://rudrageek.com/linux-now-supports-hybrid-graphics-systems-ubuntu-13-10/
[21:33] <daftykins> k1l_: was that manual or auto 0o
[21:33] <Sanka9> owen1, werrrrrd, interesting. Let me check something, because I Know I was vague.
[21:33] <YokoBR> but i can't run amdcccle
[21:34] <Helena222> My Ubuntu installtion took the whole disk left (130 GB) and I want to reduce it to 20GB and make the other 100GB for NTFS and my stuff
[21:34] <k1l_> Helena222: you can only crate 4 primary ones. but you can make one of that primary ones an extended and put several other secondary partitions in that
[21:34] <Beldar> Helena222, The ubuntu install made a extended, on a singke HD 3 primaries and a extended is the limit. However you can pile in logical partition in the extended, ntfs are fine.
[21:34] <antar> Hi folks
[21:35] <Helena222> thanks a lot k1 & Beldar, please let me try to follow you and read it calm
[21:35] <Beldar> Helena222, It would be helpful if we could see your HD set up from ubuntu.
[21:35] <Helena222> how? (Beldar)
[21:35] <antar> Could you please tell me how can i get the ubuntu menu toolbar, i tried to use the JMenubar in swing but i got a class menu bar ?
[21:35] <antar> i got a classic*
[21:36] <Beldar> Helena222, A live cd/usb would be easiest as we can possibly do it all from there. Without an accurate read we are really guessing.
[21:36] <siwica> On my laptop I can only access the F-Keys (F1, F2, ..., F12) by pressing the Fn-Key at the same time since they are by default occupied by some multimedia keys (mute, turn volume higher, ...). What would be the way to reverse the default behaviour and have the F-Keys working without pressing the Fn-Key and to use the latter for accessing the multimedia-keys?
[21:37] <Sanka9> owen1, do the same thing, just add mount /dev/sd[*] -type vfat -o r,rw /mountpoint(I just use media)
[21:37] <Helena222> what I have now is 1-Small 350MB NTFS for W8 (Primary) 2-WIndows8 30GB NTFS (Primary) - 3-Ubuntu in 130GB ext4 (Primary) and 4- 1GB for Swap
[21:37] <YokoBR> please, nobody using hybrid graphics?
[21:37] <Sanka9> owen1, that wasn't clear, add -type vfat to the mount command, the rest of it was just as an example
[21:37] <oliver_> How can i setup a distributed file system -- on local hard drives?
[21:38] <antar> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/figures/uiswing/components/MenuLookDemo.png, instead of this i want to get a ubuntu like menu tool bar ?
[21:38] <Beldar> Helena222, nice description, however I want to see each partitions size and where on the disc they are and what type of partition, this is done from a live cd/usb
[21:38] <Sanka9> oliver_, Now I get what your saying. Thats a little tricky, do you have a domain setup? I just  personally use clouds.
[21:38] <Beldar> Helena222, Anyway best of luck.
[21:39] <oliver_> Its all on the same server, four hard drives. I just need them to sort of share the files around...?
[21:39] <oliver_> But be in the same folder.
[21:39] <Sanka9> Oliver_, but short story get a domain name if you don't have it(unless your talking within the network on a NAT), and then setup and configure hadoop. But there are free cloud accounts you can get that allow you to use them.
[21:39] <Sanka9> oliver_, Oh
[21:40] <jmadero> anyone around running Gnome Shell DE who uses ibus? I can't get the icon to appear
[21:40] <Beldar> Helena222, They key is, is the ubuntu install in the extended or just the swap.
[21:40] <Sanka9> oliver_, totally different, you want LVM I think, you want all the different drives as one
[21:40] <jmadero> so I can't switch languages or keyboard layouts
[21:40] <Helena222> Beldar amillion thanks I am really unexperienced and first time in this chat, can you please helo me a bit more? I can start the live USB if you wish
[21:40] <oliver_> Yes, thats it!
[21:40] <Sanka9> oliver_, Look into LVM2, do you have RAID? If so what level?
[21:40] <owen1> Sanka9: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 -type vfat -o r,rw /media/usb
[21:41] <owen1> it's wrong usage
[21:41] <Sanka9> owen1, really?
[21:41] <Beldar> Helena222, If ubuntu is in the swap it can be resized and a ntfs put in, however I suspect the ubuntu is a primary, and the swap is in the extended.
[21:41] <owen1> that's what the it tells me
[21:41] <oliver_> I don't think i have raid, if i do i dont use it. If i use lvm, will i have to install ubuntu again?
[21:41] <Sanka9> owen1, shit your right, it should be -t
[21:41] <owen1> ok
[21:41] <Beldar> Helena222, Sorry not ubuntu in the swap , but in a extended partition, sorry
[21:42] <Sanka9> owen1, from now on I will put exactly in, my apologies.
[21:42] <owen1> Sanka9: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, ....
[21:42] <Helena222> Beldar just a second please I am checking and I am very stressed in this chat, can we talk in the private window I opened to you? I am checking with Gparted tright now
[21:43] <daftykins> sudo mkdir -p /media/usb && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 -t vfat -o rw /media/usb
[21:43] <Sanka9> Oliver_, thats fine. Here is a link, your going to have to perhaps install LVM, and then I'll send you a link to get you started
[21:43] <Beldar> Helena222, I have PM off, the channel is whee we want to do this. If you have gparted on the live take a screen shot and imagebin it.
[21:43] <Beldar> where*
[21:44] <Helena222> Beldar how can I send these messages with your name first?
[21:44] <Beldar> !tab | Helena222
[21:44] <Sanka9> owen1, Beldar is right, but you might have to do a filesystem check first perhaps.
[21:45] <Beldar> Helena222, You have been using my nick here, is that what you meant?
[21:45] <oliver_> Lvm installed, as well as watershed.. I think i found something that will keep me going till i get stuck, thank you very much!
[21:46] <Helena222> I am very sorry I am totally unexperienced, I can't make it work with thte tab key to speak directly to someone... is it OK if I just write yoiur name first?
[21:46] <Beldar> Helena222, Certainly.
[21:46] <Helena222> I am taking a screenshot and sending it to imgur, is it ok?
[21:46] <Beldar> Helena222, Yeah, just post the url.
[21:47] <Helena222> ok thanks please hold I will do it asap
[21:47] <Beldar> no prob I'm just hanging out. Helena222
[21:47] <apb1963> I'm trying to filter out syslog messages....   I wrote a simple filter and put it in   /etc/rsyslog.d/my_dhclient.conf .  The entire contents of the file:  if $programname == 'dhclient3' then /var/log/dhclient.log  &~  but it doesn't do what I want..... which is to say send dhclient messages to the other log, but not to syslog.
[21:47] <Sanka9> oliver_, werrrd good to go, just remember it will look very different in fdisk output, and when installing a new system, and using ubuntu you'll have to have an alternate install cd if below 12.10 I believe, as the installers must have support for LVM creation.  The new Ubuntu distros however have it.
[21:48] <Frani> hi
[21:49] <harushimo> what version of qt is on the ubuntu repostories? Is it 5.2?
[21:49] <Sanka9> oliver_, I haven't heard of watershed. before.
[21:49] <oliver_> Sank9 it installed it with lvm2
[21:49] <oliver_> *Sanka9
[21:50] <Sanka9> owen1, if it didn't work, permission wise, try remounting into a directory you have permission for i.e. ~/home directory, and or do a 'chown -R yourname:yourgroup /media/usbstick'
[21:50] <xangua> harushimo: 5.1 on Ubuntu 13.10 I believe
[21:50] <Helena222> Beldar the URL for the screenshot is http://i.imgur.com/OlssLbs.png pleasetell me if it worked
[21:51] <Sanka9> oliver_, oh ok.
[21:52] <harushimo> I have 12.04 LTS. I was thinking going to QT site to get 5.2?
[21:52] <Beldar> Helena222, right click the swap and then unmount
[21:53] <Frani> where can i download Intel HD Grapgics 4400 Driver ?
[21:53] <Beldar> actually it's swap of Helena222
[21:53] <Beldar> off*
[21:53] <RainMan28> is renewing a DHCP IP address on ubuntu done by doing ifdown eth0 and then ifup eth0 ?
[21:53] <ikonia> no
[21:53] <ikonia> it's controlled by dhclient
[21:53] <ikonia> (which for most is controlled by network manager)
[21:53] <RainMan28> how can I renew it?
[21:54] <ikonia> it will do it automatically
[21:54] <RainMan28> or refresh it
[21:54] <RainMan28> i want to do it manually
[21:54] <ikonia> why ?
[21:54] <Sanka9> Does anyone run above 12.04.3, with radeon kms successfully?  Also, though not as important is it running the radeon driver with a juniper card(I have a 5770)?
[21:54] <ikonia> the purpose is for it ot be run automatically
[21:54] <RainMan28> because i changed it to a different IP at the router
[21:54] <Helena222> Beldar thanks the only option is to deactivate (swap partition), but not unmount. Is that the same? (unmount and deactivate?)
[21:54] <ikonia> RainMan28: how are you mapping machine->ip ?
[21:54] <RainMan28> mac address
[21:55] <ikonia> RainMan28: so if you log out and back in, network manager will re-request it's ip
[21:55] <Sanka9> RainMan28, it depends on the version your running there were recent changes
[21:55] <Beldar> Helena222, Swap off is what we want, so the keys you see in gparted next to some partitions are gone.
[21:55] <RainMan28> running the latest version
[21:56] <ikonia> RainMan28: just log out/back in,
[21:56] <RainMan28> can i do sudo dhclient -r eth0
[21:56] <ikonia> RainMan28: network manager will re-request it
[21:56] <ikonia> RainMan28: not wise to fight with network manager
[21:56] <Helena222> Beldar please hold on I will check
[21:56] <RainMan28> ikonia: if i'm only connected via ssh, do i have to close the connection and re-open it?
[21:56] <Sanka9> RainMan28, newer distros run resolv.conf, which is controlled by a dnsmasq network manager dnsmasq plug-in. For more secure proxying, and VPN
[21:56] <Beldar> Helena222, Another screenshot would make me feel better.
[21:56] <ikonia> RainMan28: is this a desktop you're on ?
[21:57] <Helena222> Beldar OK I "deactivated swapping" and now I have many other options in the swap partition
[21:57] <ikonia> Sanka9: what does that have to do with dhclient
[21:57] <RainMan28> ikonia: running latest ubuntu desktop yes, but only connecting to it via SSH terminal
[21:57] <ikonia> RainMan28: ok, can you access the desktop ?
[21:57] <Sanka9> ikonia, it wouldn't be handling dns-related items.
[21:57] <RainMan28> i suppose I could RDP into it
[21:57] <ikonia> Sanka9: he didn't ask for dns - he asked how to release and renew it
[21:57] <RainMan28> or i could connect a monitor to it
[21:58] <ikonia> RainMan28: the reason I'm saying this is fighting for control of the network card with network manager isn't a good idea
[21:58] <Beldar> Helena222, another screenshot so I'm sure we are the same?
[21:58] <Helena222> Beldar still the context menu is in Spanish... maybe you won't understand the menu in the screenshot
[21:58] <ikonia> RainMan28: if you're using network manager, try to use it
[21:58] <freijon> hey guys. I've updated to ubuntu gnome 14.04 via update-manager (last time I did that). during the upgrade my screen turned black. after a few hours I turned the computer off. I finished the upgrade with apt-get dist-upgrade. now everything is installed but I get a black screen after booting the system. I tried everything I know and I'm out of ideas. any advice would be much appreciated!
[21:58] <owen1> when opening usb-creator-gdk, does it matter if i use sudo or gksudo?
[21:58] <Beldar> Helena222, I am not looking for a context window
[21:58] <daftykins> freijon: #ubuntu+1 for unreleased versions
[21:58] <crowell> hi I have an issue with graphical glitches, which is apparently related to this this bug https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/
[21:58] <RainMan28> ikonia: i dont think i'm using network manager
[21:58] <ikonia> RainMan28: why do you not think you are using that ?
[21:58] <ikonia> RainMan28: it is the default network utility on ubuntu desktop
[21:59] <crowell> an example of my problem is here http://i.imgur.com/bWYkXqZ.png
[21:59] <RainMan28> then why are you asking if i'm using it ikonia
[21:59] <ikonia> RainMan28: because not everyone is
[21:59] <ikonia> RainMan28: some people disable and over ride it
[21:59] <xar-> freijon: issues with the 14.04 beta should be routed to #ubuntu+1 channel
[21:59] <RainMan28> i'm just logging in via ssh, i've made no changes, its a vanilla install, i just want to renew the IP
[21:59] <ikonia> RainMan28: ok, so it's using network manager on the desktop
[21:59] <oddant> http://degenne-valentin.com/enquiry
[21:59] <ikonia> RainMan28: the best way to do it would be to log out of the desktop and back in so network manager re-requests the IP
[21:59] <Helena222> Beldar just a sec
[22:00] <Sanka9> ikonia, if dhclient is now handling the dns, then it won't release it, if resolv.conf is being used, its over-written by another program. From what I understand though, if its an older distro it would be using that.  But if other software handles dns, then its different, because dhclient wouldn't be handling the dns releases/etc...
[22:00] <RainMan28> ikonia: when you say desktop, do you mean the GUI, or the machine itself?
[22:00] <ikonia> Sanka9: he's not asking about dns.....
[22:00] <oliver_> How can i fix "Device /dev/sdd1 not found (or ignored by filtering)"
[22:00] <Helena222> Beldar the screenshot URL in imgur is http://i.imgur.com/Cyg2mCG.png
[22:00] <ikonia> RainMan28: network manager is launched on login for you
[22:00] <ikonia> RainMan28: the gui
[22:00] <RainMan28> ikonia: ok i'm not accessing the gui
[22:00] <ikonia> oliver_: plug the disk in
[22:01] <RainMan28> i'm just using putty to ssh into the machine
[22:01] <ikonia> RainMan28: right, but it must have the desktop enabled....
[22:01] <oliver_> Well i can't unplug it..?
[22:01] <Beldar> Helena222, You booted to the install or on a live cd/usb?
[22:01] <Sanka9> RainMan28, you want to set up your network?
[22:01] <Helena222> Beldar I am in the installed Ubuntu, should I boot from the USB and repeat the screenshot?
[22:02] <Sanka9> RainMan28, your trying to get an ip? If you are, I couldn't get network-manager to do it via command line, I had to add the settings manually to the /etc/network/interfaces, and then do a /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:02] <oliver_> Oh fixed it. Woah!
[22:02] <ikonia> Sanka9: that is not what he asked
[22:02] <ikonia> Sanka9: please stop putting terrible information forward
[22:02] <Beldar> Helena222, That's what we want, boot it open gparted and repeat that swap of and take another scren shot. From there we can shrink ubuntu and make a ntfs.
[22:03] <RainMan28> Sanka9: i had my machine's ip set to <IP_ADDRESS> a few mins ago. I set it to a static dhcp assign of <IP_ADDRESS> in my router and now just want the machine to pick up the new IP
[22:03] <Beldar> off*
[22:03] <Sanka9> ikonia, you thought he could get into the desktop graphical environment from ssh, hahaahaha
[22:03] <ikonia> Sanka9: no I didn't say that at all, if you're trying to mock, at least have the information straight, rather than looking silly
[22:03] <oddant> i made this page for univ enquiry on programmers' life, i'm gonna make some pies and charts at the end, can you take 1 minute of your time filling this up ? http://degenne-valentin.com/enquiry
[22:03] <Helena222> Beldar, OK please wait some minutes, it is a slow old laptop and will take some time, if you are so kind, a million thanks, I'll be back
[22:03] <ikonia> RainMan28: does the dekstop have the gui enabled, yes/no
[22:03] <RainMan28> ikonia: yes
[22:04] <ikonia> RainMan28: ok, did you log into the desktop at any point before you removed the monitor ?
[22:04] <Sanka9> RainMan28, I feel ya, that is handled just as I said it, if your routers handling the dhcp lease. By default its network-manager plugin dnsmasq.
[22:04] <Beldar> Helena222, You are doing fine, this is not stuff one knows till they do it a few times. ;)
[22:04] <FuuqUmiist> hey, how do you enable guest session when using the GDM display manager
[22:04] <RainMan28> ikonia: no I don't believe so
[22:04] <Helena222> Beldar, indeed... many thanks for your patience and help
[22:04] <ikonia> RainMan28: ok, so you've never logged into the desktop,
[22:04] <RainMan28> ikonia: correct
[22:04] <owen1> is there a difference between running usb-creator-gdk as sudo vs running as gksudo? if there is, what is it and what kind of password is gksudo using? it tells me it's not my password.
[22:05] <Helena222> Beldar, I am on two computers at the same time and getting very stressed, lol
[22:05] <ikonia> RainMan28: so you have two options 1.) stop/start network manager via upstart 2.) give it a little time and wait for the lease to expire and network manager will refresh it
[22:05] <k1l_> owen1: dont run GUI programs with sudo
[22:05] <owen1> k1l_: ok. so what is the password that gksudo ask me? it's not letting me in.
[22:05] <ikonia> RainMan28: you can of course do as you've said manually running things like dhclient, however fighting with network manager will not give you sane results
[22:05] <k1l_> owen1: its the users pw
[22:06] <Guest60428> !list
[22:06] <RainMan28> ikonia: yeah I think i'm locked out at the moment. I did sudo dhclient -r etho and now can't login to the old IP or the new one
[22:06] <RainMan28> eth0*
[22:06] <owen1> k1l_: ok. got it
[22:06] <ikonia> RainMan28: I did warn you not to do that
[22:07] <RainMan28> I dont think I asked you about that one ikonia, I think I ran the ifdown eth0 / ifup eth0 one by you
[22:07] <ikonia> RainMan28: I told you not to run dhclient manually
[22:07] <Beldar> Helena222, You're in good shape to this this the HD is fine and we can do what you need. I assume the ntfs you need is just for data, stuff...etc.
[22:07] <xar-> RainMan28: why do you need to change the IP? what's the end goal here?
[22:08] <RainMan28> xar-: I have certain machines assigned via DHCP to static IPs in a certain range of the DHCP pool and wanted to change this machine to be in line with that setup
[22:08] <ikonia> RainMan28: you may get lucky as you've only done an -r network manager may / should get a new IP the next time it probes
[22:09] <RainMan28> yeah, I guess I will wait a while
[22:09] <xar-> interesting.
[22:09] <RainMan28> leases are 24 hours though, may get impatient and just plugin a monitor and keyboard/mouse
[22:09] <ikonia> RainMan28: just bounce the box
[22:09] <xar-> or KVM / IPMI
[22:09] <Helena222> Beldar, yes, I want a NTFS partition to store all my stuff safely apart from the W8 & Ubuntu partitions
[22:09] <RainMan28> ikonia: bounce as in power cycle?
[22:09] <ikonia> RainMan28: yup
[22:10] <ikonia> (or plug in the cable as you said earlier)
[22:10] <Helena222> Beldar the screenshot taken from the Live USB is http://i.imgur.com/jiMEZeN.png
[22:10] <RainMan28> ikonia: ok, any idea how often network manager probes
[22:11] <ikonia> RainMan28: no idea, it's normally quite often (say 15 minutes) but it depends the state of the lease file
[22:11] <RainMan28> ikonia: would I have been better off doing /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:11] <Beldar> Helena222, Cool, so right click the swap, and swap off we want the keys next to sda3 and sda6 to be gone.
[22:11] <ikonia> RainMan28: I don't know (I don't think) that covers network managers config
[22:11] <ikonia> RainMan28: that just downs/ups the networking stack
[22:12] <ikonia> RainMan28: I'd have to check the upstart script to confirm that
[22:12] <Helena222> Beldar, I swapped off
[22:12] <Beldar> Helena222, The keys icons are gone at sda3 and sda6?
[22:13] <Helena222> Beldar, please hold
[22:13] <Helena222> Beldar, yes, the key icons are gone from all of them (from all partitions)
[22:15] <RainMan28> ikonia: sweet, unplugging the ethernet cable and plugging it back in worked. switched to new IP
[22:15] <ikonia> RainMan28: ahhh good thinking
[22:15] <Beldar> Helena222, Cool, you can right click on sda5 (the ubuntu install) and then resize/move and drag the slider from the right side to the left to the size you want, this will take awhile to run.
[22:16] <Helena222> Beldar, OK I will do that and come back, (THANKSSSSS)
[22:17] <oliver_> well that almost worked...
[22:17] <xar-> so this should go without saying, but prior to resizing partition(s), please make sure you have good (TM) backups.
[22:17] <Beldar> Helena222, Cool.
[22:19] <Noiro> what's a good program to edit images out of pdf documents? HP printers apparently love emailing them as pdfs
[22:20] <Helena222> Beldar, it's processing. In the meantime, the unallocated space will be later converted to extended, logical or primary?
[22:25] <Beldar> Helena222, A logical ntfs, however I would remove the swap, make the ntfs, than another swap. This will keep the partitions numerically in order fro left to right as you see them. Left to right is from front to end.
[22:25] <Beldar> of the HD
[22:26] <covi> Can I redirect stdout to a file, AND stderr to a *different file*?
[22:26] <Helena222> Beldar, OK it's done. You mean to delete the Swap and make a new one following the Ubuntu ext4 one and later create the NTFS logical one?
[22:26] <user5601561056> Please explain this. I DID get it to install with dpkg --force-all. package krita 1:2.8.1-oubuntu2 failed to install upgrades trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/kde4/kritaclonesarray.so', which is also in package caIigra-libs 1:2.8.0ubuntu4
[22:27] <user5601561056> There are many SIMILAR bugs on launchpad but none like this
[22:27] <user5601561056> Should I create a report for it?
[22:28] <Beldar> Helena222, Delete the swap, then make a ntfs after the sda5 in the unallocated space. You can make it leaving enough still unallocated for a swap after it.
[22:28] <ice9> I installed 14.04 but the click to minimize feature on the launcher doesn't work, any idea?
[22:28] <user5601561056> @ice9 not implemented yet?
[22:29] <Helena222> Beldar, you mean this order?: 1&2-W8, 3-Ubuntu, 4-Swap, 5-NTFS logical for my stuff?
[22:29] <ice9> user5601561056: it was said that this feature will be shipped with 14.04 and I this is it's beta version
[22:29] <trism> user5601561056: hard to find because it was fixed 8 hours ago, bug 1298805
[22:30] <Helena222> Beldar, I'm confused now, the Swap is now the last one, should I leave it the last or move it after the Ubuntu sd5 and before the NTFS?
[22:30] <Beldar> Helena222, Those description leave area for mistakes. Delete the swap, make a ntfs in that unallocated space.
[22:30] <user5601561056> So, maybe the current beta does not have it yet? I dont know, It should have it by release which is a couple weeks.
[22:30] <Helena222> Beldar, OK, done
[22:31] <Beldar> Helena222, NOw make the ntfs in that unallocated space, you can leave some area still unallocated or just shrink it like we did sda5.
[22:32] <Helena222> Beldar, but the unallocated space for the swap, at the end or at the beginning?
[22:32] <user5601561056> user:trism thanks, it wanted me to file a new report because it couldnt find one existing.  will look it up.
[22:32] <chndn> how to install teamviewer on ubuntu 13.10
[22:32] <chndn> ??
[22:33] <xar-> chndn: https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+install+teamviewer+on+ubuntu
[22:33] <user5601561056> user:chndn Im not sure it exists for linux, you could use NoMachine.
[22:33] <chndn> thnx