[12:38] <AlexExtreme> oh?
[12:39] <Keybuk> concerning how Status and Job interact
[12:41] <Keybuk> so let's say we have a service that uses this:
[12:41] <Keybuk>   while interface-up until interface-down $IFACE
[12:41] <Keybuk> that defines a simple state period between an interface coming up and going down again
[12:42] <Keybuk> the state would keep a record of ALL interface-up events
[12:42] <Keybuk> and ALL of them would have to be cancelled before the interface could go down
[12:42] <Keybuk> ie. that defines a service running while any network interface is up
[12:44] <Keybuk> a simple modification:
[12:44] <Keybuk>   while interface-up until interface-down $IFACE
[12:44] <Keybuk>   instance
[12:44] <Keybuk> this job behaves differently; now each time an interface comes up, a new instance of the job is spawned, and that instance runs until the interface it was spawned for goes down
[12:48] <Keybuk> since states can be canned (and for other reasons) you'll want to be able to restrict which interfaces this is true for
[12:48] <Keybuk> so you'd allow something like
[12:48] <Keybuk>   state interface-is-up
[12:49] <Keybuk>     while interface-up until interface-down $IFACE
[12:49] <Keybuk>   end state
[12:49] <Keybuk> --
[12:49] <Keybuk>   while interface-is-up ~lo
[12:56] <Keybuk> the other change to make is to Event
[12:56] <Keybuk> I'm going to get rid of different positional and name-based variables
[12:56] <Keybuk> instead it's going to have just name-based ones, but in a particular order
[12:56] <Keybuk> so an event might be
[12:57] <Keybuk> stopping JOB=apache RESULT=failed FAILED_PROCESS=main
[12:57] <Keybuk> and for matching in job definitions, you can omit the names in order until you give the first name
[12:57] <Keybuk> but the scripts won't receive any arguments, just them as environment variables
[12:58] <AlexExtreme> so we won't be able do have events like "interface-up eth0", instead it would be "interface up IFACE=eth0" ?
[01:00] <Keybuk> you cam omit the name provided eth0 is the first event in the list
[01:00] <Keybuk> (which it would be)
[01:10] <Keybuk> in effect, they become like python method calls
[01:13] <Keybuk> this makes figuring out what to pass to the jobs MUCH easier ;)
[01:13] <Keybuk> since there's no worry about which gets $1, $2, etc. they all get arguments by name!
[01:13] <Keybuk> likewise
[01:14] <Keybuk> interface-up until interface-down $IFACE
[01:14] <Keybuk> is more obvious than
[01:14] <Keybuk> interface-up until interface-down $1
[01:14] <AlexExtreme> yes
[01:18] <ion_> Sounds good.
[01:24] <Keybuk> ion_: does the state/instance stuff make sense?
[01:26] <ion_> In what situations would counting the number of up events and waiting for the number of down events to match is necessary?
[01:28] <ion_> How about adding a new state to a running system  it would have no knowledge of recently emitted events it needs to track.
[01:29] <ion_> Oh, i misunderstood the intent. Ignore the In what situations... line.
[01:29] <Keybuk> not so much counting, but matching pairs
[01:29] <Keybuk> and keeping track of which interfaces are still up
[01:29] <ion_> Yeah, i realized that. :-)
[01:29] <Keybuk> it makes a lot of sense to have a service running while at least one network interface is up
[01:32] <ion_> Regarding the interface-is-up alias, id like the syntax to be more like: while interface-is-up IFACE=~lo until interface-down $IFACE, where the first part would be a fnmatch-ish match against the variable and the second part would match against the stored value.
[01:32] <ion_> Something like...
[01:33] <ion_> while interface-is-up IFACE=* until interface-down $IFACE
[01:33] <ion_> would be equivalent to
[01:33] <ion_> while interface-is-up IFACE until interface-down $IFACE
[01:33] <ion_> The difference to
[01:33] <ion_> while interface-is-up IFACE until interface-down IFACE
[01:34] <ion_> would be that any interface-is-up ... interface-down pair would match, since the IFACE value isnt compared to anything.
[01:34] <ion_> interface-down $IFACE would point to the value implicitly stored by interface-is-up IFACE
[01:36] <Keybuk> I'm not sure I follow
[01:37] <Keybuk> you mean interface-up (an event) not interface-is-up?
[01:37] <ion_> Ah, sorry. I meant interface-up
[01:37] <Keybuk> ah, you mean name the variables on the left you intend to use on the right?
[01:37] <Keybuk> interface-up IFACE until interface-down $IFACE
[01:37] <Keybuk> not
[01:37] <ion_> Yes.
[01:37] <ion_> That would allow more complex matches, such as:
[01:37] <Keybuk> interface-up until interface-down $IFACE
[01:37] <ion_> while interface-up ADDR=10.0.0.* IFACE until interface-down $IFACE
[01:38] <Keybuk> I don't see why the IFACE bit is needed?
[01:38] <Keybuk> that would work
[01:38] <Keybuk> while interface-up ADDR=10.0.0.* until interface-down $IFACE
[01:38] <Keybuk> ?
[01:39] <ion_> True. Just store all the variables by default, so that any of them could be matched against in the until part.
[01:39] <ion_> So IFACE would need to be mentioned in the first part *only* if its matched against something.
[01:40] <ion_> while interface-up IFACE=~lo until interface-down $IFACE
[01:40] <ion_> while interface-up until interface-down $IFACE
[01:40] <ion_> while interface-up ADDR=10.0.0.* until interface-down $IFACE
[01:40] <ion_> for example
[01:41] <ion_> Perhaps IFACE!=lo instead?
[01:41] <Keybuk> yeah, either works doesn't it
[01:41] <Keybuk> actually, I prefer !=
[01:41] <ion_> ADDR!=10.*
[01:43] <ion_> Anyway, that would remove the need to define a named alias just to be able to give patterns. Of course, aliases might be very useful for other purposes.
[01:43] <Keybuk> the named alias would be for complex things like "user-can-login"
[01:43] <ion_> Yeah
[01:44] <Keybuk> if state allows spawning like this, then we could have structures like for loops in there
[01:45] <Keybuk> for PATH in `getmntent -fD` path-mounted $PATH until path-unmounted $PATH
[01:45] <Keybuk> :p
[01:47] <ion_> NEat.
[01:48] <ion_> Perhaps make it block-like
[01:48] <ion_> for PATH in $(getmntent -fD)
[01:48] <ion_>   while path-mounted $PATH until path-unmounted $PATH
[01:48] <ion_> end for
[01:49] <Keybuk> that could work too
[01:50] <ion_> Another idea that accomplishes the same thing a bit differently: assign the output of getmntent -fD to an array variable, and do a single while expression that matches PATH to the array.
[01:54] <ion_> Also, an interface-up event might have multiple ADDR variables. It should be possible to match against any of them, or all of them.
[01:54] <Keybuk> how would you define/match that?
[01:58] <ion_> interface-up any(ADDR or(ADDR=127.* ADDR=::1)), where any would loop through ADDR variables and return true if any of the expressions return true. That syntax is ugly, though, but it can be improved. :-)
[02:00] <ion_> (any? ADDR (or ((match? ADDR "127.*") (match? ADDR "::1")))) ;-)
[02:01] <ion_> (all? ADDR (match? ADDR "*:*")) IPv6-only interface
[02:05] <ion_> Just like for foo in ADDR, do something with foo, but simplified to for ADDR, do something with ADDR, where inside the loop, ADDR is the value currently being iterated.
[02:13] <ion_> (blah ((mountpoints "getmntent -fD")) (any? mountpoints (eq? mountpoints PATH)))
[02:15] <ion_> Im definitely not saying thats what the syntax should be, just formulating ideas about how things could be matched.
[02:22] <Keybuk> I've found lisp/scheme-like syntax easier to work things out in too
[02:22] <Keybuk> simply because it's already in the same shape as the necessary syntax tree to evaluate it
[02:23] <Keybuk> rather than the latter
[02:24] <Keybuk> uh, rather than the humanish way of putting it
[02:24] <Keybuk> what does the mountpoints thing do?
[02:27] <ion_> Um, just assigns the output of the command to an array variable. Then the arrays compared to the PATH variable.
[02:27] <ion_> mountpoints.any? {|dir| env[:PATH]  == dir }  # Ruby syntax :-)
[03:56] <penguin42> I fancy adding a --host to the reboot/shutdown/halt utilities to check that the host you specify is the one you think you are trying to shut down
[03:57] <penguin42> I was also considering requiring it if it's run from a tty - anyone have strong views?
[03:58] <Keybuk> heh
[03:58] <Keybuk> interesting patch ;)
[03:58] <penguin42> one too many halts of the wrong machine :-)
[04:00] <penguin42> I can't think of anything shorter than --host that would work on all of reboot/shutdown/halt
[04:00] <Keybuk> you'd need to give the hostname
[04:00] <Keybuk> shutdown -h quest
[04:00] <penguin42> yeh exactly
[04:01] <penguin42> except shutdown already has a -h for example
[04:07] <AlexExtreme> the bug tracker at launchpad probably
[04:07] <penguin42> oh ok, I hadn't realised people used launchpad for patch stuff as well
[04:09] <Keybuk> penguin42<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:09] <Keybuk> or launchpad, yeah
[04:10] <Keybuk> if you prefer, make a bzr branch of upstart and upload your branch to LP
[04:11] <penguin42> ok, I'll probably launchpad it since I've already got a launchpad account; probably just a patch for the moment unless I fancy figuring out the branch stuff
[04:12] <Keybuk> :)
[04:20] <Keybuk> yeah, it's not terrible
[04:20] <penguin42> is bzr yet-another-source-code-control thing?
[04:22] <AlexExtreme> yep
[04:27] <penguin42> Why does 'reboot' scan only ide discs to power them down?
[04:29] <Keybuk> penguin42: it doesn't even need to do that
[04:29] <Keybuk> originally it was because the code was copied from sysvinit, and only ide disks existed then
[04:30] <AlexExtreme> now the kernel automatically does it
[04:30] <penguin42> ah ok
[04:31] <penguin42> reboot does seem to have a small random selection of clean up things in it
[04:31] <Keybuk> yeah
[04:31] <Keybuk> our goal is to eliminate both
[05:37] <penguin42> anyone good with man macros; .BR -m, --host \fI  HOST     doesn't seem to want to render a space before HOST
[05:38] <Keybuk> I tend to just quote things
[05:41] <penguin42> that's still getting me  -m,--hostHOST
[05:43] <Keybuk> .BR -m ", " --host \fIHOST
[05:43] <Keybuk> ?
[05:44] <penguin42> yeh but it's the space after '--host' I can't get to happen
[05:44] <penguin42> let me try a " "
[05:44] <Keybuk> "--host " ? :p
[05:44] <penguin42> yeh that's done it
[05:45] <penguin42> typesetter being too smart for its own good :-)
[06:19] <penguin42> ok, #117215
[12:15] <ion_> I learned a new word from Futurama: oughtnt :-D
[12:17] <cortana> i learned "unpossible".... i don't think that's a real word tho
[12:21] <Keybuk> heh


[04:29] <beantaxi> smoser: Re your comments on PR #745 ... you requested I hook my part handlers in via stages.py. My part handlers would not represent a new stage; they would be used as part of user-data handling. Would I still need to hook them in via stages.py?
[04:40] <beantaxi> smoser: Looking at the code, I suppose you might be referring to creating some singleton-esque instances in stages._default_handlers(). If so, I'm unsure when I would add a handler to opts.sub_handlers, as is done to a couple handlers including shellscript_handler
[16:22] <Dacesilian> Hello, can you please help me with cloud-init on Debian? Problem is that it's waiting for DHCP, but I have static IP set in config file.
[16:22] <Dacesilian> I'm preparing configuration with cloud-localds -v --dsmode=local --network-config=138-network.yml seed-138.img 138-user.yml
[16:24] <Dacesilian> I've also tried to build own image with build-openstack-debian-image --release buster, but it isn't working with genericcloud image either.
[16:47] <minimal> Decesilian: is this a v1 or v2 network config file?
[16:48] <minimal> Dacesilian: is this a v1 or v2 network config file?
[16:51] <minimal> The cloud-localds options I use typically are "--disk-format raw --filesystem iso9660 --network-config=network-config-v2.yaml seed.img"
[16:56] <Dacesilian> It's v2 config file. I just want to try renderer to eni and see if it helps (I doubt)
[16:57] <Dacesilian> [  OK  ] Started Initial cloud-init job (pre-networking).
[16:57] <Dacesilian> and stuck [*     ] A start job is running for Raise network interfaces (37s / 5min 1s)
[16:58] <Dacesilian> after a while, network is configured right. But why is there this DHCP delay?
[17:15] <minimal> have you turning on cloud-init debugging and then checked the logfile to see what happened during boot? what ends up in your /etc/network/interfaces files after cloud-init runs?


[04:30] <BigUrsis> is there anyone from conical that can give me a few minutes?
[11:12] <mu3en> hey. where is the best place to ask for some advanced configuration of thin client input devices?
[19:37] <LaserJock> ogra: had any time to look at denemo?
[21:27] <stgraber> ogra: How can I make my chroot to work when NFS exported (rwdirs) ?
[21:27] <stgraber> I remember that was specified on some wiki page but can't find it anymore ...
[21:31] <Lns> Anyone know what permissions/group memberships are necessary to be able to kill other users' processes?
[21:32] <Lns> Would 'admin' group be sufficient?
[21:36] <LaserJock> Lns: should be, that's essentially (I can become root)
[21:37] <LaserJock> stgraber: just tried out Alpha 4 addon CD
[21:37] <LaserJock> we need to do a KDE3 -> KDE4 transition in our dependencies on KDE Edu
[21:38] <LaserJock> keduca, kverbos, and kvoctrain were dropped (which make it impossible to install edubuntu-desktop)
[21:38] <Lns> LaserJock: ty =)
[21:38] <LaserJock> and parley, step, and marble have been added (though I'm not sure yet if they are in main)
[21:42] <LaserJock> yep, they're all in Main
[21:56] <LaserJock> ogra: I don't suppose you'd mind if I messed with the seeds/edubuntu-meta/edubuntu-app-install  to get KDE Edu fixed?
[22:12] <LaserJock> hi bdoin
[22:59] <bdoin> hi
[23:24] <LaserJock> bdoin: how is gcompris going?
[23:26] <bdoin> I am still porting it to use the goocanvas instead of the deprecated gnomecanvas. it brings some new exiting feature and I refreshes the user interface
[23:27] <bdoin> it's really a long work to move a such large piece of code
[23:28] <bdoin> and in the mean time I have to maintain the current release. today I added support for ukrainian
[23:31] <bdoin> LaserJock: and about you, what are you working on by now
[23:31] <LaserJock> trying to finish the PhD at last
[23:32] <LaserJock> I've been away from Edubuntu for a while but am trying to get back into it a bit
[23:33] <bdoin> makes sense ;)
[23:36] <LaserJock> bdoin: had any complaints about Ubuntu since the translations were fixed?
[23:38] <bdoin> no complaints at all. it's like we got everything right this time
[23:39] <LaserJock> good good, that's nice to hear
[23:39] <LaserJock> we've got a few bugs in Launchpad which I'll be having a look at
[23:39] <LaserJock> I'll forward any on that aren't because of packaging problems
[23:41] <bdoin> yes please
[23:41] <LaserJock> bdoin: can you see if http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520829 is properly filed?
[23:42] <LaserJock> I've not used bugzilla much, and got a bit confused
[23:47] <bdoin> LaserJock: this bug really belongs to NL
[23:47] <LaserJock> bdoin: I see, I just wasn't sure
[23:47] <bdoin> you can play the sound boards/voices/nl/misc/click_on_letter.ogg
[23:48] <LaserJock> so Gnome NL translates gcompris sounds?
[23:49] <LaserJock> or does Gnome NL need to decided what the proper usage is
[23:49] <LaserJock> s/usage/translation/
[23:49] <bdoin> no, voices comes from independant translators
[23:49] <LaserJock> ok
[23:50] <bdoin> I forward the bug to the maintainer, will see
[23:51] <LaserJock> ok, thank you


[11:43] <someone_> hi, i'm trying to install lubuntu on my virtual machine but i'm afraid of it taking over my host operating system when i download it, is that going to happen?
[11:47] <someone_> hi, fishcooler
[11:48] <someone_> hello?
[11:49] <someone_> hi, antis
[11:49] <antis> hi
[11:51] <someone_> i'm trying to install lubuntu on my virtual machine but i'm afraid of it taking over my operating system after i download it, will that happen?
[11:51] <antis> in a virtual machine? no this will not happen :)
[11:52] <someone_> oh, okay
[11:52] <someone_> thank you
[11:53] <antis> welcome
[12:00] <demophobia> is mac's implementation of windows a virtual machine?
[14:33] <antis> demophobia, if i get your question right, mac doesn't have it's own windows implementation. so you can run it in a vm or "natively" with every nuts & bolts included :P
[17:36] <Murii|linux> Hi, I need a command to start my bash script once X seconds
[17:36] <Murii|linux> perhaps in combination with nohup if it helps
[17:36] <wxl> crontab
[17:36] <Murii|linux> ok
[17:37] <Murii|linux> wxl, danke!
[17:37] <wxl> np


[00:52] <nasser> I'm running KDE 4.10.5 on mint 15. I have newly created activity and I ran a command in konsole. Then I stopped the activity. When I start the activity again, konsole starts a new session. Is it possible to make konsole continue running the command before stopping the activity? or at least re-run the command again. Thanks
[01:01] <MichaelP> Kde released 4.11 RC1 on the 16.. When will it be ready for kubuntu ? beta2 in ppa right now
[03:35] <snuffleburger> connection test...
[03:35] <snuffleburger> am I here?
[03:37] <genii> Yes.
[03:38] <snuffleburger> and what does this:
[03:38] <snuffleburger> display?
[03:39] <snuffleburger> well it seems to be working on the client side...
[03:39] <genii> snuffleburger: Yes, we are seeing what you type.
[03:39] <snuffleburger> yeah but do you see away messages?
[03:40] <genii> snuffleburger: You haven't done: /away   so no
[03:40] <snuffleburger> I did.
[03:40] <snuffleburger> twice.
[03:40] <snuffleburger> here I'll do it again: /away
[03:40] <OerHeks> We could, but we did not see it.
[03:41] <genii> Needs to just be:
[03:41] <genii> /away
[03:41] <snuffleburger> /
[03:41] <genii> as the first thing
[03:41] <snuffleburger> /away
[03:42] <genii> snuffleburger: You put two // there as I did. But I put two to make it show one. Use only one
[03:42] <snuffleburger> I know.  I did it both ways just to see
[03:42] <snuffleburger> I sound a lot stupider than I really am when it is after 10pm
[03:43] <genii> At any rate, works on my client so Freenode is fine. Something with your client or else your syntax
[03:44] <snuffleburger> your client is freenode or the server is freenode?  I thought freenode was a server.
[03:44] <genii> snuffleburger: My client is quassel, the server is freenode
[03:45] <snuffleburger> I just checked server settins and it is irc.ubuntu.com
[03:45] <snuffleburger> not sure what happened there...
[03:47] <snuffleburger> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/success.png
[03:48] <snuffleburger> so I guess I will call it good enough that my internet connection is working, and I can login to IRC.  :)
[03:48] <snuffleburger> ooh and I can do pretty colors.
[03:48] <snuffleburger> Better watch for sharks
[03:49] <snuffleburger> allright bed for real this time.
[03:49] <snuffleburger> dreadfully sorry to clutter your channel while I tested quassel.
[08:08] <random_lurker> I recently got a vaio with preinstalled windows 8
[08:09] <random_lurker> I've setup a live usb with kubuntu 13.04 64bit image using Linux live usb creator, the laptop boots from the usb and I am shown the grub selector
[08:09] <random_lurker> then I select 'Start Kubuntu' but nothing happens
[08:10] <random_lurker> Is this common? I have multiple partitions on the harddisk
[08:44] <kidx> hellow all i need help i updated KDE on 13.04 to 4.11beta 2 i tihnk and the desktop panel disapears once in a while mostly after ditting for a while any ideas?
[08:44] <kidx> sorry after sitting for a while
[08:45] <kidx> any way to downgrade
[09:16] <Avihay> kidx: sounds like plasma-desktop is crashing on you. there are ways to downgrade, but I only know the hard-ugly one
[09:17] <ss_haze> how do I get video file thumbnails for mo4
[09:17] <ss_haze> mp4 *
[09:19] <ss_haze> using dolphin there was plugin
[09:19] <ss_haze> can't remmber name
[09:21] <ss_haze> ok I found already mayb
[09:23] <kidx> oh ok
[09:23] <kidx> i just having issues
[09:23] <kidx> is liquorix a good kernel
[09:23] <ss_haze> why do you want bleeding edge at first
[09:23] <ss_haze> kidx
[09:23] <kidx> I am a gamer and need more gaming preformance for steam any ideas
[09:23] <kidx> i am sick of the crashing and stuff
[09:24] <ss_haze> I also have games on steam, but I am not running for latest beta unstable thingy, just for newer something
[09:25] <kidx> well i am on 13.04
[09:25] <kidx> games run ok just want somthing thats gona make games load faster like a 10sec load to load up l4d2 huh yea
[09:25] <Avihay> canonical, valve and your video card manufacturer work hard to give you a stable experience with the "default" kernel and set of drivers
[09:25] <kidx> yes i see this gaming is nice but i get stutters once in a while
[09:26] <kidx> plus this is unstable with the desktop disapearing once in a while
[09:27] <kidx> there is a 4.10.95 out but dont know where to grab it
[09:27] <kidx> KDE 4.10.95
[09:28] <lordievader> kidx: That is a beta.
[09:28] <lordievader> Beta of 4.11
[09:28] <kidx> oko how do i down grade to stabel version
[09:28] <kidx> just want kde stable
[09:29] <kidx> and gaming to get better
[09:29] <lordievader> No idea how to do that properly.
[09:29] <kidx> and not stutter
[09:29] <kidx> I hop[e some one comes along and help
[09:30] <kidx> I love KDE
[09:30] <kidx> Kubuntu keeps KDE plain
[09:30] <kidx> just like how they stay orignial
[09:31] <lordievader> kidx: They might know in #kubuntu-devel
[09:31] <kidx> Now just gotta make gaming better on here and i am very happy i this craps out i am gona go to Gnome Remix i just want something to be stable
[09:31] <lordievader> kidx: What kind of graphics card do you have?
[09:31] <kidx> AMD HD5770
[09:32] <kidx> i am going to that channel
[09:32] <lordievader> kidx: And you have installed the closed-source driver I take?
[09:33] <kidx> what driver
[09:33] <kidx> Kubuntu is messed up for drivers lol not labling any expermential drivers like ubuntu they need to get like ubuntu for additional drivers?
[09:34] <kidx> there is 2 additional drivers and none say experimental
[09:34] <lordievader> kidx: Ubuntu and Kubuntu uses the same utility for that, run jockey-kde from the terminal.
[09:35] <lordievader> For AMD/ATI there are no experimental drivers, IIRC.
[09:35] <kidx> on ubuntu there is
[09:36] <kidx> 12.04
[09:36] <kidx> i take it here there is not
[10:21] <DarkSim_> Hi I need some help with installing
[10:21] <DarkSim_> Im going to install Kubuntu 13.04 but I need some help making sure of one thing
[10:22] <ikonia> what's up ?
[10:23] <DarkSim_> Im not that good of a Linux user, but last time I installed a distro I tried to make certain that I could install another distro after that without having to lose all my data
[10:23] <DarkSim_> something like using two partitions, one for system and one for home or something
[10:23] <DarkSim_> But I honestly dont know if I did that and how I make certain of it
[10:24] <ikonia> didn't you ask this the other day ?
[10:24] <DarkSim_> This is the first time Ive been here
[10:25] <DarkSim_> Sorry if you are confusing me with someone
[10:25] <[Raiden]> one home partition - is ok ,  one user  for two systems - imho bad idea.
[10:25] <DarkSim_> it was apparently so when I installed a new distro I would overwrite the system drive
[10:25] <DarkSim_> but the home partition would still be there and it would link with the new distro
[10:26] <[Raiden]> use /etc/fstab
[10:27] <DarkSim_> Im sorry if I dont know what to do
[10:27] <DarkSim_> should I use nano or something?
[10:27] <[Raiden]> yes
[10:27] <[Raiden]> or kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[10:28] <DarkSim_> ok done
[10:28] <[Raiden]> and read man )
[10:28] <DarkSim_> so what am I looking for
[10:31] <DarkSim_> I dont know what to do with the information
[10:32] <lordievader> DarkSim_: You are looking for a secondary partition mounted to /home
[10:32] <[Raiden]> you need to edit this file on new system and write there mount the home folder. If I understand the question :) I came here by accident
[10:33] <DarkSim_> the thing is that it seems like I only have the swap partition visible
[10:33] <DarkSim_> nothing else
[10:41] <[Raiden]> DarkSim_: better to use a separate partition for the home folder. For safekeeping.
[10:41] <[Raiden]> You can simply copy the / home directory to the new system as an option to check on it right then.
[10:44] <[Raiden]> I'd better keep quiet. My English is not ready for questions
[10:59] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[12:30] <kidx> is there any preformance tweaks i can do to opengl or KDE to gain a preformace boost in game?
[12:40] <jejejelou> hello
[13:40] <tkennedy_> anyone know how to get Krdc working with Xfree-rdp 1.0.2 ? I upgraded KDE to the 4.11 Beta 2 and now Krdc won't run because freerdp is 1.0.1
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:52] <cmagina> anyone running saucy and seeing kde take a ridiculously long time to load from login?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> ok , ridiculously long time means how long , cmagina ?
[13:55] <cmagina> BluesKaj: say a full minute or two after entering the password to login
[13:55] <BluesKaj> and questions about saucy should be directed to #ubuntu+1 , btw
[13:56] <cmagina> BluesKaj: alright, just figured i'd start here since this is a kde issue
[13:56] <BluesKaj> I noticed my saucy install takes about 30 secs before everything loads ...a bit slow alright
[13:57] <cmagina> the default splash appears, shows the first entry, sits there for a long time, then the screen attempts to make the transition to the desktop but stalls with a black screen and a cursor
[13:58] <cmagina> then after another long period it loads the desktop
[13:58] <cmagina> BluesKaj: i have some akonadi resources that are definitely increasing my load time
[13:59] <BluesKaj> and you're install is up to date ? ..well I don't have either akonadi or nepomuk enabled
[13:59] <cmagina> i actually removed some as it was worse
[13:59] <BluesKaj> you're=your
[14:00] <cmagina> yeah, i first thought it might be akonadi, but this seems more like the kde init pieces are waiting for things
[14:00] <cmagina> BluesKaj: fresh update as of yesterday
[14:00] <cmagina> haven't checked for anything today
[14:00]  * BluesKaj nods
[14:01] <cmagina> did the transition to the new kdeinit occur (remembers reading some blog posts about that being improved)?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> cmagina, kdeinit occur?
[14:08] <MichaelP> How does 2 different distro's running the same version of kde. Like Kubuntu and Arch..graphics quality looks better in Kubuntu
[14:15] <cmagina> BluesKaj: i remember some blog posts about the script that initializes kde being re-done/improved. i'm not sure if/when that stuff is replacing the old way
[14:18] <BluesKaj> cmagina, haven't heard anything about that ... I recall hearing that parts of systemd are being employed in kubuntu 13.10
[14:18] <cmagina> BluesKaj: ah, yeah, forgot about that.
[14:26] <tkennedy_> anyone try using Krdc in 13.04 with update KDE 4.11 Beta 2 ?
[14:26] <tkennedy_> it no worky
[14:31] <BluesKaj> tkennedy_, it noi worky maybe because KDE 4.11 Beta 2 is experimenty  :)
[14:31] <tkennedy_> of course it is but I guess it wasn't tested on 13.04 because 13.04 has freerdp 1.0.1.
[14:32] <tkennedy_> I would expect bugs but clearly not working at all is something different
[14:33] <tkennedy_> was just wondering if there was a quick way to get xfree-rdp upgraded to 1.0.2 with all it's dependancies
[14:36] <BluesKaj> tkennedy_, I'm on 13.10 and don't see freerdp 1.0.1 available in the repos
[14:36] <lordievader> I believe I compiled it once to get Krdc working again.
[14:37] <BluesKaj> ah there it is tkennedy_ , it is available , but no 1.0.2
[14:39] <lordievader> Or maybe there was a ppa carrying 1.0.2, can't remember.
[14:43] <tkennedy_> yeah 1.0.2 is in 13.10 repos not 13.04. so seems like only options are to compile with all dependancies sources or get all deb dependancies manually
[14:46] <BluesKaj> ah yeah freedrpX11 1.0.2
[14:47] <BluesKaj> installed here
[14:47] <BluesKaj> but never use kdrc
[14:50] <BluesKaj> err krdc :)
[15:18] <FundyChristian> !staff | Attention everyone! if you dont REPENT GOD WILL KILL YOU and SEND YOU TO HELL!
[15:18] <FundyChristian> !ops | Attention everyone! if you dont REPENT GOD WILL KILL YOU and SEND YOU TO HELL!
[15:24] <DarkSim> Hello! How do I install kttsd on Kubuntu 13.04
[15:30] <BluesKaj> DarkSim, i think kttsd has been replaced by jovie
[15:30] <tsimpson> DarkSim: just choose kttsd (or jovie) from the package manager
[15:54] <MichaelP> I have virtual desktop set to 4.. different widgets for each desktop... But i only getting the main desktop !!
[16:08] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, system settings>workspace behavior>virtual desktops , enable/check "Different widgets for each desktop" ?
[16:09] <MichaelP> BluesKaj: Did all that.. But found i had to add the pager widget
[16:10] <BluesKaj> well yeah...an easy way to keep track
[16:13] <MichaelP> Think one of the things i like about Kubuntu is graphics quality ( Desktop ) is cleaner then other distro's running same kde version
[16:17] <BluesKaj> I've tried others like mint and arch ,but always used the same settings/themes and colours etc, so i never noticed much difference
[16:24] <MichaelP> Like the default themes.. Seem cleaner
[16:49] <apachelogger_> tsimpson, jussi: could someone please remove me from the ops highlight :)
[16:50] <tsimpson> apachelogger_: done
[17:00] <apachelogger_> tsimpson: thx
[18:47] <flyingpeacock> @genii, hey sorry I've been lost. Did you figure anything out about my wireless card/driver?
[18:48] <genii> flyingpeacock: Nothing enlightening
[18:53] <flyingpeacock> @genii okay, well thanks for trying
[19:20] <geri> hi
[19:21] <geri> where can i set the proxy in kubuntu?
[19:21] <geri> is there a system wide config file?
[19:28] <gomiboy> geri: use the environment variables HTTP_PROXY and HTTPS_PROXY (and FTP_PROXY if you need it). Edit the file .profile in your home dir and add HTTP_PROXY = "yourproxy.com" and so on...
[20:29] <F41l> Question, is there any way to take a 32bit Kubuntu install and convert it to using EFI bootloader? I tried using the boot-repair-disk method but it said that the linux version is not compatible with EFI. Do I need to replace the kernel with one that has an EFI stub?
[21:50] <F41l> Question, is there any way to take a 32bit Kubuntu install and convert it to using EFI bootloader? I tried using the boot-repair-disk method but it said that the linux version is not compatible with EFI. Do I need to replace the kernel with one that has an EFI stub?
[21:50] <ikonia> F41l: what version of kubuntu ?
[21:51] <F41l> 13.04
[21:51] <ikonia> should be technically possible
[21:51] <ikonia> I suspect you'll need to do a fair bit of manual effort though
[21:51] <F41l> I need to install onto a 32bit-only, efi-only IA32 tablet
[21:51] <F41l> tried a lot of options.
[21:52] <F41l> right now, working on doing an install to a USB stick, getting it EFI booting, and then using clone software to flash it to the tablet's 64gig SSD
[21:52] <ikonia> F41l: I'm surprised by the kernel warning, I can't believe the 32bit/64bit kernel differ at that level
[21:53] <F41l> Well that's loosely what boot-repair-disk said about the installation.
[21:53] <ikonia> no idea what boot-repeair-disk is, so no trusting that
[21:53] <F41l> I did a manual partitioned install to a USB stick as the hard drive. 256 FAT32 partition (sda1), mounted to /boot/efi
[21:53] <ikonia> F41l: out of interest can you just not install kubuntu to the tablet using the standard install process ?
[21:53] <F41l> and the rest is ext4 sda2, mounted to /
[21:53] <F41l> and swap
[21:54] <F41l> No, it will not boot the installer
[21:54] <F41l> the 32bit media is not EFI booting.
[21:54] <Quintasan> Hmmm
[21:54] <Quintasan> Riddell: ^
[21:54] <ikonia> F41l: that seems wrong
[21:54] <F41l> the tablet itself does not support legacy BIOS mode
[21:54] <ikonia> (I dont doubt what you are saying, but I can't believe that it doesn't support EFI)
[21:55] <OerHeks> General principle To install Ubuntu in EFI mode: Use a 64bit disk of Ubuntu (32bit installer does not detect EFI) ? > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Installing_Ubuntu_in_EFI_mode
[21:55] <F41l> OerHeks: way past that.
[21:55] <ikonia> so it's a glitch in the installer
[21:55] <F41l> It's an IA32 processor (aka, does not do 64bit)
[21:55] <ikonia> no, but that may explain why it' not taking a 32bit install, if the installer has a bug in it
[21:56] <OerHeks> Yes, that makes me wonder too, but the manual is not written by 1 person, i guess
[21:56] <F41l> I managed to get elilo to do -something-. I used rEFInd to attempt to boot the 32bit installation media written to a usb stick with my own added elilo bootloader.
[21:56] <F41l> It just hits a black screen
[21:56] <Quintasan> wait, ia32 with efi?
[21:56] <F41l> yeah.
[21:56] <Quintasan> what on Earth is that device?
[21:56] <F41l> Dell lattitude 10 TS2
[21:56] <OerHeks> Does the bios have Legacy mode?
[21:56] <ikonia> I'm curious to
[21:56] <F41l> no, it doesn't have legacy mode
[21:57] <F41l> strictly EFI
[21:57] <F41l> atom processor
[21:57] <F41l> best thing I can try is to get a flash drive as a working installation booting
[21:57] <F41l> then make it permanent by cloning it to the internal ssd
[21:57] <ikonia> this looks very messy
[21:58] <F41l> yeah
[21:58] <F41l> :D
[21:58] <Quintasan> F41l: That's your best bet in this situation
[21:58] <F41l> I think so, but having a hard time getting that done as well :D
[21:58] <F41l> I got it installed, but now trying to make it EFI booting.
[21:58] <Quintasan> EFI is a pain in the ass for everyone now.
[21:58] <F41l> but the method recommended gave me an error and refused to complete.
[21:59] <F41l> Though I do suspect it might be because the computer I'm using to build the install itself doesn't have an EFI bios.
[21:59] <F41l> Can't be certain.
[21:59] <F41l> yeah EFI is being a real pain :D
[22:00] <Quintasan> F41l: I think guys over at #ubuntu-kernel might know more.
[22:00] <ikonia> F41l: it would be very helpful if you kept notes, and logged any bugs, and considered making a wiki page entry for this device with pros/cons you found and a working process
[22:01] <F41l> yeah
[22:01] <F41l> I was planning on it once I had a good process.
[22:01] <Quintasan> F41l: You should consider asking over there if all fails
[22:05] <Quintasan> F41l: Did you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1025555 ?
[22:06] <F41l> Yeah I did.
[22:06] <F41l> I'm way past that.
[22:07] <F41l> Also, not to the point of testing to see if my specially prepared USB stick will boot on the tablet. I'm a step before that. Directly post-installation to the USB stick, trying to convert the installation to using EFI to boot.
[22:07] <F41l> that's where the boot-repair software is giving me guff, saying the kernel installed by 32bit kubuntu 13.04 media is not compatible with EFI.
[22:07] <F41l> Which makes no sense.
[22:10] <OerHeks> "They are Intel Atom x86 based Windows 8 tablets with 32bit EFI only no legacy bios options." the last past is not true, i guess, windows must startup legacy mode too, logically reading.
[22:11] <F41l> there is no way to disable efi
[22:13] <F41l> I went through 8 agents over the course of an hour and a half to find this out.
[22:13] <F41l> with dell
[22:14] <F41l> the two options, UEFI with secure-boot enabled, or, UEFI with secure-boot disabled.
[22:17] <F41l> I did have it scraping at elilo to do something once before, but I need to configure elilo successfully apparently.
[23:33] <danielboston26> test
[23:34] <danielboston26> hi
[23:34] <danielboston26> im having a issue installing updates
[23:34] <danielboston26> when i start the software updater i get this error
[23:35] <danielboston26> failed to download repository information check your internet connection
[23:35] <danielboston26> the problem is my internet connection is fine
[23:35] <danielboston26> what could be the issue?
[23:37] <danielboston26> hello?
[23:37] <danielboston26> is anyone here?
[23:38] <danielboston26> im having a issue installing updates
[23:47] <chewyboy000> Hi...
[23:54] <Copacetic> I am running kubuntu 13.04, I have a set of wireless headphones (G930), my system sounds work, however sound in chrome and my media players don't work
[23:55] <Copacetic> what is weird is that in dolphin I can hear a mp3 if I play it using the preview


[20:33] <newdude> and then copy the .pub file into authorized_keys
[20:34] <bitbyte> newdude: I'm doing it for the whole sshd
[20:34] <bitbyte> newdude: its just when it mentions where the keys are its a bit confusing because the folder dosnt exist do you think i need to run the keygen first
[20:34] <newdude> wildwind: It's a vps :( i think I'm just going to bug them to do it on their side.
[20:35] <theadmin> Bah. How do I properly restart Unity without logging out and back in? Doing "unity" or "unity --replace" breaks the global menu
[20:35] <dRagonsRage> I know C++, I have Ubuntu 12.04 and I wanna make a music player like Rhythmbox. Where do I start?
[20:35] <dRagonsRage> Anyone?
[20:36] <theadmin> dRagonsRage: You could grab the source of Rhtyhmbox and look at it
[20:36] <dRagonsRage> How do I do that?
[20:36] <theadmin> dRagonsRage: apt-get source rhtyhmbox
[20:36] <dRagonsRage> sorry, I'm a total n00b
[20:36] <dRagonsRage> oh cool ok. Thanks :)
[20:36] <filealex> ola
[20:37] <filealex> !list
[20:37] <wildwind> theadmin: it's tricky. there's compiz plugin and some other components running
[20:37] <filealex> sorry
[20:37] <dRagonsRage> So can you get the source code for Ubuntu unity like that too?
[20:37] <theadmin> dRagonsRage: Any open-source app that is in the repos. Yes, Ayatana is open-source.
[20:38] <dRagonsRage> Ah ok...Ayatana?
[20:38] <angs> how can I restart d-bus deamon?
[20:38] <theadmin> dRagonsRage: Ayatana is the Ubuntu UX project, it includes Unity and some other stuff
[20:38] <theadmin> angs: sudo restart dbus
[20:38] <dRagonsRage> Ah ok cool. Thank you so much!
[20:39] <angs> theadmin: -bash: restart: command not found. do you know any other method to restart it?
[20:39] <theadmin> angs: ...What Ubuntu version is this?
[20:39] <wildwind> bitbyte: so do you have password or key authorisation set up in sshd?
[20:39] <samgabbay> hi guys :)
[20:40] <angs> theadmin, it is an old debian (lenny). I thought the commands should be almost the same for debian and ubuntu
[20:40] <bitbyte> wlldwind: got both at the moment
[20:40] <wildwind> and you want to change keys or what
[20:40] <bekks> angs: you cant restart bash from inside it. And we have no clue whats different in Debian.
[20:40] <theadmin> angs: ...Err, not at all. Debian uses the old System V Init, Ubuntu ses Upstart...
[20:41] <bitbyte> i want to shift from password to using rya keys
[20:41] <theadmin> angs: Ask Debian stuff in #debian , but I think "/etc/init.d/dbus restart" would do it. Not sure tho
[20:41] <wildwind> rsa?
[20:41] <bekks> bitbyte: Whats "rya"?
[20:41] <angs> thank you
[20:41] <bitbyte> but the directories and files the config's it mentions in the sshd don't exsist
[20:41] <bitbyte> yeh rsa
[20:41] <angs> theadmin: yes it was /etc/init.d/dbus restart, thanks a lot
[20:41] <hs_> hello
[20:41] <bitbyte> bekks: please don't be pedantic
[20:42] <johnnyfireworks> angs,  no as ubuntu has change much in the passed years to the point were that interchangeable cli are not so
[20:42] <theadmin> bitbyte: I beleive he honestly didn't understand you
[20:42] <bekks> bitbyte: Oh, I'm sorry for just asking whats "rya" since I never heard it in terms of ssh.
[20:42] <bitbyte> bekks: sorry was type for rsa
[20:42] <samgabbay> im downgrading to 12.04
[20:42] <bekks> bitbyte: If you are missing your keys, generate them first.
[20:43] <bekks> bitbyte: ssh-keygen -t rsa
[20:43] <johnnyfireworks> samgabbay,  which verson are you?
[20:43] <bitbyte> they are generated on both client and host
[20:43] <samgabbay> 13.04
[20:43] <wildwind> bitbyte:  then you generate the keys, put them in /home/username/.ssh/authorised_keys, test, then deny password auth.
[20:43] <hs_> my xorg had crushed , and cannot be started , so i made a live-cd to recover , the problem is it doesnt see the ubuntu partition, so i made an new installation , in the grub when i selet windows loader , i can see my old ubuntu , and still connot recover/fix the gnome any idea ?
[20:43] <samgabbay> Poop: poop
[20:43] <bitbyte> but I'm to add to authorized_keys in ~/.ssh/ which seems to not be there
[20:43] <johnnyfireworks> samgabbay,  and why are you downdraging? i an here to see if its worth  upgrading
[20:43] <diverdude> Hi, is it possible to make a softlink to another server, so that a user can log into an ftp to one server, go into a dir which is really a softlink to a dir on another server and then put his files there?
[20:44] <bekks> wildwind: bitbyte: the file is named authorized_keys
[20:44] <bekks> wildwind: bitbyte: please note the z instead of s
[20:44] <samgabbay> @johnny for my graphics the support is not out yet or probably wont be till the next version comes out and 12.04 is more stable
[20:44] <Pummpy1> Hello could someone help me please
[20:44] <samgabbay> btw im a ubuntu tester/qateam
[20:44] <Pummpy1> I need to uninstall ubuntu and reinstall windows
[20:45] <wildwind> bekks: yes, thank you
[20:45] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  do you have it set up (ftp servers?
[20:45] <bitbyte> bekks: sorry I'm situated in the uk and know its a z not an s but its hard when touch typing to fight your spelling
[20:45] <wildwind> bitbyte: if it doesn't exist, create it
[20:45] <hs_> my xorg had crushed , and cannot be started , so i made a live-cd to recover , the problem is it doesnt see the ubuntu partition, so i made an new installation , in the grub when i selet windows loader , i can see my old ubuntu , and still connot recover/fix the gnome any idea ?
[20:45] <theadmin> Pummpy1: Just install Windows removing your Ubuntu partitions.
[20:45] <hs_> sorry for the line clone
[20:46] <Pummpy1> @theadmin How would I do this. Whenever I try to install windows. It says I have no space I think or something like that. I am unsure how I could fix it
[20:46] <diverdude> johnnyfireworks, yeah i have ftp setup..its in is on <IP_ADDRESS> and other is on <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:46] <hs_> its seems that its available in windows boot loader only
[20:46] <wildwind> bitbyte: ssh-copy-id can do it for you, provided user's current password
[20:47] <theadmin> Pummpy1: Well, Windows isn't supported here so go figure it out with Microsoft or whatever.
[20:47] <Pummpy1> :L
[20:47] <bitbyte> wlldwind: at the moment i can't do that one as my client is on osx platform
[20:47] <Pummpy1> thanks for the help theadmin
[20:47] <bitbyte> so I'm looking at cat'in it over first then scp'ing
[20:47] <johnnyfireworks> samgabbay,  rue but thats is close soure stuff your talking about- and linux has been fighting to be the best on its own. but to get the loin share of the meat we use this. so its really up to them to say when and where they want tp support linux. same goes for wifi.
[20:48] <bitbyte> wlldwind: only issue is when doing cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>'cat - >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys' keep getting permission denied even through the perms on /.ssh is 700 and 600 on all files
[20:48] <gasper> ciao
[20:48] <gasper> !list
[20:49] <wildwind> bitbyte: you don't want to put it into root's home, do you?
[20:49] <debian7> d
[20:49] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  ok so you want to have a website like link to a dir to either one of them?
[20:50] <bitbyte> wlldwind: well its not going into root thats the example command of what I'm doing its into a users directory
[20:50] <binBlob> Pummpy1: yous put in your win dvd and proceed until you have to choose where you want to instal win, there you can delete all partitions and make new ones
[20:50] <Pummpy1> binBlob I sound like a noob I know. But how do you do this?
[20:50] <wildwind> bitbyte: remember to set proper permissions on file if doing it under root
[20:51] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  im trying to better understand what you want to do ,as the first statement was not as clear to me
[20:51] <Pummpy1> I know a bit about computors but when it comes to ubuntu im useless
[20:51] <Casey> So, is there an easy way to make a raid 1 on ubuntu? Want to take the two 2bt hdd's I have and make a raid 1 for extra storage on this server.
[20:51] <bitbyte> wlldwind: all being done under the intended user
[20:51] <hs_> my xorg had crushed , and cannot be started , so i made a live-cd to recover , the problem is it doesnt see the ubuntu partition, so i made an new installation , in the grub when i selet windows loader , i can see my old ubuntu , and still connot recover/fix the gnome any idea ?
[20:51] <wildwind> bitbyte: btw ssh-copy-id does it all at once
[20:51] <johnnyfireworks> Pummpy1,  so what do you ned to know/help?
[20:51] <binBlob> Pummpy1: do you have acces to youtube ? look up windos installation or something similar
[20:51] <bitbyte> wlldwind: don't have access to the command on osx platform
[20:51] <Pummpy1> johnnyfireworks: How to delete partitions of ubuntu I think
[20:52] <wildwind> bitbyte: oh
[20:52] <bitbyte> wlldwind: have to follow : http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tools-and-tips/ssh-what-and-how/
[20:52] <Pummpy1> binBlob: Im googleing it now :)
[20:52] <diverdude> johnnyfireworks, i want to make a nfs and do softlinking via ftp
[20:52] <johnnyfireworks> Pummpy1, binBlob  agreed. that how someof use got start and how we help the community
[20:52] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I add netflix to xbmc?
[20:52] <bekks> diverdude: Thats not possible.
[20:52] <iceroot> mojtaba: #xbmc
[20:53] <mojtaba> iceroot: thanks
[20:53] <wildwind> bitbyte: btw tab completes nicknames
[20:53] <johnnyfireworks> bekks, diverdude  if theres a will theres a way. even if he may need to create it.
[20:53] <theadmin> wildwind: Not if you make a typo at the second letter already :P
[20:53] <bekks> johnnyfireworks: Well, good luck then.
[20:53] <bitbyte> dosnt work on my client
[20:53] <diverdude> bekks, why is it not possible?
[20:53] <iceroot> !raid | Casey
[20:54] <iceroot> Casey: read the part about software-raid. it can be done with an already installed system
[20:54] <iceroot> Casey: and remeber, raid1 is NOT a backup-solution
[20:54] <Casey> Iceroot: thanks
[20:55] <johnnyfireworks> bekks, i remember telling an idea here or in #windows ayear or two back and found recently someone make it-wesite and all! now i could be making money off it
[20:55] <Casey> iceroot: what do you mean by that?
[20:55] <johnnyfireworks> Casey, thats the info bot
[20:56] <johnnyfireworks> Casey, follow the links
[20:56] <bekks> johnnyfireworks: I have no clue what you are talking about.
[20:56] <Casey> iceroot is a bot? wow feel stupid
[20:56] <diverdude> bekks, why is it not possible?
[20:56] <johnnyfireworks> bekks, nvm
[20:57] <bekks> diverdude: Because its not invented yet, to work that way.
[20:57] <bity> moses, u have any luck with your install?
[20:57] <diverdude> bekks, so ftp cannot access a softlink that points to a NFS?
[20:57] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  just a few min, i too am curious about what your doing an like to find out how.
[20:58] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  dont go no where
[20:58] <wildwind> bitbyte: look at https://github.com/beautifulcode/ssh-copy-id-for-OSX
[20:58] <bitbyte> for now I'm manually copying and pasting in and testing
[20:58] <iceroot> Casey: that means that most people think that RAID1 is a backup for the data
[20:59] <vladi> hello everyone, i've an issue with tcp connecting with ubuntu 13.04... i can ping anywhere, attempt to ftp will fail, no connection on browser... i can't configure pppoeconf but dhclient will set my eth0 fine...
[20:59] <iceroot> Casey: normally you never need RAID1 when you are not hosting a system which needs 24/7 high availibility
[20:59] <binBlob> Do I need to care about pid files if I do a upstart daemon ?
[21:02] <theadmin> binBlob: Not much. All you do need is two lines really "start on start_event" (where start_event is the condition for starting the daemon) and "exec /path/to/binary/file"
[21:02] <blub_> someone using the latest nvidia driver 319?
[21:03] <bitbyte> wlldwind: hopefully this will do the trick thanks alot
[21:04] <blub_> or about bumblebee? Do I have to modprobe the nvidia kernel module before using bumblebee?
[21:06] <binBlob> theadmin: k now it's working :)
[21:06] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  are you there?
[21:06] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  are you there?
[21:06] <bitbyte> wlldwind: do you know why ssh-copy-id would give permission denied cause the authorized_keys file is under 600 permissions
[21:07] <diverdude> johnnyfireworks, yeah
[21:07] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  its possible google softlinks via ftp
[21:08] <wildwind> bitbyte: cause you're connecting under different user
[21:08] <bitbyte> mmm even though its got 600 perms its still down as root file
[21:08] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  http://serverfault.com/questions/138555/setup-symbolic-link-where-users-can-access-it-with-ftp
[21:08] <bitbyte> wlldwind: -rw------- 1 root    root     752 May 26 21:57 authorized_keys
[21:09] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  that may  be close to what your looking for?
[21:10] <wildwind> bitbyte: rm it and redo under user who will be using it
[21:10] <diverdude> johnnyfireworks, i get access denied for mounting
[21:11] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  try to make another account for this niche' job and try again
[21:12] <Casey> does anyone know good links on how to raid 1 two drives in ubuntu. these drives are not the file system drives. it seems all I can google is raid1 when installing ubuntu.
[21:12] <vladi> how does the pppoeconf utility works? when it can't find an access concentrator... what does it mean?
[21:12] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  what nfs are you using?
[21:12] <diverdude> johnnyfireworks, the one on ubuntu
[21:13] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  version?
[21:13] <Oppheimer> Greetings. I would like to install Ubuntu 13.04 from the hard drive. Who can give me some help?
[21:13] <diverdude> johnnyfireworks, how can i see the version?
[21:13] <Oppheimer> I don't have dvd or pen drive available..
[21:14] <iceroot> Casey: i showed you already the link
[21:14] <iceroot> !raid | Casey
[21:14] <johnnyfireworks> version | diverdude
[21:14] <diverdude> version: command not found
[21:15] <Casey> iceroot: links only pretand to new installations. I do not want filesystem raid1
[21:15] <theadmin> Oppheimer: What OS are you currently running?
[21:15] <wildwind> Casey: http://www.ducea.com/2009/03/08/mdadm-cheat-sheet/
[21:15] <daixtr> hello. i'm trying to cross-compile  for psp using pspsdk.. and I'm having this error I have no clue. --> http://sprunge.us/DCUS
[21:15] <Oppheimer> theadmin: Mint Nadia 14
[21:15] <Oppheimer> theadmin: KDE ..
[21:15] <Casey> wildwind: thank you.
[21:16] <iceroot> Casey: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-creating-software-raid-one-arrays/
[21:16] <theadmin> Oppheimer: Hmmf. Well, I'm not sure if this package is present in Mint, but try it anyways: sudo apt-get install grml-rescueboot
[21:16] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  uname -a
[21:16] <theadmin> Oppheimer: If it works, place the Ubuntu ISO in /boot/grml/ and run "sudo update-grub"
[21:16] <iceroot> Casey: install mdadm, create a raid1 array, add the other hdd to the mdadm array and wait until it is synced
[21:16] <diverdude> johnnyfireworks, Linux arpaproduction 3.2.0-29-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:03:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:17] <Oppheimer> theadmin: Then I boot in the Ubuntu and install.. Ok, I'll try it.
[21:18] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  uname
[21:19] <diverdude> johnnyfireworks, Linux
[21:19] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  -_-
[21:20] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  uname -h
[21:20] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  i forgotten the help cmd
[21:20] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  for that
[21:20] <theadmin> "man command" will work for almost anything :P
[21:21] <johnnyfireworks> theadmin,  hey i rememeber u
[21:21] <diverdude> johnnyfireworks, you mean man uname?
[21:21] <johnnyfireworks> theadmin,  diverdude  try it.
[21:21] <binBlob> daixtr: I think that this is a sourcecode related problem and not a ubuntu problem ... you should search for help shomwhere else
[21:21] <diverdude> johnnyfireworks, hehe are you sure you are qualified to help
[21:21] <johnnyfireworks> theadmin,  diverdude  try it. anything you thinks work atm it slips my mind
[21:21] <Aaron> johnnyfireworks, open up also xman,
[21:22] <Aaron> very friendly application
[21:23] <johnnyfireworks> diverdude,  with the power of google and a enquisitive mind, may not have the answer but i not how to look it up
[21:26] <diverdude> johnnyfireworks, ok :)
[21:26] <Ben64> diverdude: whats the problem?
[21:27] <johnnyfireworks> Ben64,  trying to set up softlinks via ftp
[21:28] <Ben64> ew
[21:29] <diverdude> How can i check nfs version ?
[21:29] <johnnyfireworks> Ben64,  its possble but a little messy also a advanced thing he is doing
[21:30] <wildwind> diverdude: server or client
[21:30] <Casey> --create /dev/md0--chunk=64--level=1--raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc     valid command?
[21:30] <diverdude> wildwind, server
[21:30] <wildwind> diverdude: aptitude for ex.
[21:30] <diverdude> wildwind, in terminal?
[21:31] <Casey> mdadm --create /dev/md0--chunk=64--level=1--raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc    correction***
[21:31] <diverdude> wildwind, i dont see it in aptitude
[21:31] <wildwind> diverdude: yes, aptitude show samba
[21:32] <wildwind> diverdude: oh sorry
[21:32] <wildwind>  q
[21:32] <diverdude> wildwind, mmm not samba, nfs
[21:32] <wildwind> diverdude: nfs-kernel-server
[21:33] <diverdude> wildwind, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704924/
[21:34] <diverdude> wildwind, i dont think it says so there does it?
[21:34] <wildwind> diverdude: don't you see it's version?
[21:34] <diverdude> wildwind, mmm no'
[21:35] <wildwind> diverdude: 5-th line
[21:35] <diverdude> wildwind, 1:1.2.5-3ubuntu3.1 but thats some ubuntu package version isnt it
[21:37] <wildwind> yes and what version do you need?
[21:38] <speredenn> hi pals; I want to remove some services from the boot sequence on ubuntu 13.04; how can I co that?
[21:38] <speredenn> notably, I wanna desactivate auto-lauch of dovecot and fetchmail
[21:38] <diverdude> wildwind, i need the nfs version. not the ubuntu package version
[21:39] <wildwind> diverdude: 1.2.5
[21:39] <speredenn> I have tried with updaterc.d without success
[21:39] <diverdude> wildwind, i really dont think thats the nfs version. should be either v.3 or 4
[21:40] <looming-shade> hi...got problem with fvd speed-dial...I want new tab to be shown in 4 columns, but when I change it it won't save the settings...could anybody explain how is it possible? is there a place in system where are these settings saved?
[21:40] <binBlob> speredenn: im not 100% sure if it works with ubuntu but you can try bum
[21:40] <wildwind> diverdude: you mean protocol version
[21:41] <speredenn> binBlob, that's my point; it works differently on ubuntu than on debian apparently ;-) what's bum?
[21:41] <diverdude> wildwind, no
[21:41] <diverdude> wildwind, nfs version
[21:41] <speredenn> aaah, I see
[21:42] <speredenn> binBlob, it's a server, so bum is unavailable I guess
[21:42] <diverdude> wildwind, its because i get access denied
[21:42] <diverdude> wildwind, when i try to connect to nfs
[21:42] <diverdude> i dont know why
[21:42] <binBlob> speredenn: kk then im out
[21:42] <wildwind> diverdude: v3 or v4 is protocol version
[21:43] <diverdude> wildwind, oh ok
[21:43] <speredenn> binBlob, thanks anyway :-)
[21:43] <diverdude> wildwind, sry then :)
[21:43] <binBlob> speredenn: the only thing i know is that the scripts should be at /etc/init & /etc/init.d
[21:44] <speredenn> actually, they are, but they are not properly recognized my updaterc.d as they have been converted to the "service sth command" architecture
[21:44] <diverdude> wildwind, why do i get access denied?
[21:44] <diverdude> wildwind, is it because of version problem?
[21:44] <dxtr> Hello
[21:45] <wildwind> diverdude: followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo ?
[21:45] <wildwind> diverdude: almost certainly no
[21:45] <diverdude> wildwind, server is ubuntu 12.04 and client is debian wheezy
[21:46] <speredenn> binBlob, I might have an answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/whats-the-recommended-way-to-enable-disable-services
[21:46] <speredenn> I try that...
[21:47] <wildwind> diverdude: if you want nfs with no security (guest access), follow "quick start" part
[21:48] <diverdude> wildwind, that guide want to share various users home directories. I am not interested in that. I only want to share a single directory located in /home/bdi/www/mydownloadsdir
[21:49] <wildwind> diverdude: well, substitute your path
[21:49] <speredenn> binBlob, the answer is pretty tricky and is ubuntu specific; I'll see at boot if it works or not. Thanks for the help :-).
[21:50] <diverdude> wildwind, i made sure the dir has 777
[21:50] <speredenn> binBlob, btw, you where not far with /etc/init ;-)
[21:51] <wildwind> diverdude: see logs
[21:52] <diverdude> wildwind, this is the content of my /etc/exports http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704968/ am I missing sth there?
[21:52] <music> I am trying to run my sony clie tj-37 through ubuntu 12.04 any ideas
[21:55] <Guest68488> Ich bins noch mal
[21:55] <Guest68488> Paule
[21:56] <Guest68488> Grub funktioniert jetzt jedoch kann ich meine Installation nicht bedienen, die Maus bewegt sich sehr zögernd und nach zwei drei klicken ist Schluss mit klicken
[21:56] <Oppheimer> Greetings. I moved the ISO to the grml and its in binary file now. When I restart the system and hold 'shift', the grub doesn't appear.. ??
[21:57] <diverdude> wildwind, ?
[21:57] <wildwind> diverdude: compare with guide
[21:57] <k1l> Guest68488: am besten kommt man hier mit englisch an. #ubuntu-de ist der deutsche channel
[21:57] <Guest68488> sorry
[21:58] <Oppheimer> Greetings. I moved the ISO to the grml and its in binary file now. When I restart the system and hold 'shift', the grub doesn't appear.. ??
[21:58] <diverdude> wildwind, well i have and looks ok and still no works
[21:58] <Oppheimer> Is it right?
[21:58] <Oppheimer> NO..
[21:58] <Diamondcite> Oppheimer: How does the ISO file relate to grub?
[21:58] <wildwind> again, do you want access control by users or not?
[21:58] <syntroPi> which would be the recommended program for streaming dvb-c streams to rtp or even igmp?
[21:59] <wildwind> syntroPi: vlc?
[22:00] <syntroPi> yeah but i would prefer a non gui program with some remote interface
[22:00] <wildwind> syntroPi: it has it
[22:01] <binBlob> syntroPi: vlc has a commandline and a web interface
[22:01] <syntroPi> vlc is way too big, i want to try it on my desktop box but then i would like to use it on my embedded headless machine
[22:02] <Oppheimer> Diamondcite: I would like to install the Raring with the GRML method.. Its not working..
[22:02] <wildwind> syntroPi: see also DVBlast
[22:03] <Oppheimer> Oppheimer: In the boot options too..
[22:03] <Oppheimer> Diamondcite: In the BIOS
[22:03] <Diamondcite> Oppheimer: You are not making enough sense..
[22:04] <wildwind> syntroPi: also what device do you have
[22:04] <Oppheimer> Diamondcite: What do you mean?
[22:04] <Diamondcite> Oppheimer: Why can't the rar tool be installed inside Ubuntu itself? Why GRML?
[22:04] <diverdude> wildwind, my ubuntu chrashed i had to restart
[22:04] <diverdude> wildwind, happns rather often :)
[22:05] <Oppheimer> Diamondcite: I would like to install the Ubuntu 13.04 with the GRML, from the hard drive. It is a rescueboot method.. Its not working here..
[22:06] <wildwind> diverdude: do you want access control by users or not?
[22:06] <diverdude> wildwind, no...just open it. i have put no_root_squash
[22:06] <Diamondcite> Oppheimer: As far as I know.. Ubuntu it supposed to be installed from a USB drive or a DVD.. Never heard of installing an OS from inside another OS...
[22:07] <diverdude> /home/bdi/www/mysite.download <IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,no_root_squash,fsid=0,no_subtree_check)
[22:07] <syntroPi> wildwind, i have a em28xx usb device (pctv quatro nano 520e) which receives all the dvb-c pid streams on one frequency/bouquet
[22:07] <daftykins> is it ok to just create custom scripts in /etc/init.d/ called whatever i want?
[22:08] <relisher> Possible to install OI within Solaris, with ZFS, that is as far as I heard
[22:08] <daftykins> also what is my 'killproc' ?
[22:08] <Oppheimer> Diamondcite: Ok, don't be rude.. Got it.
[22:08] <wildwind> diverdude: then follow the guide again, 'quick start' part, exactly, changing only your shared directory path
[22:09] <diverdude> wildwind, i folloed already each and every step :/
[22:11] <wildwind> diverdude:  your /etc/exports differs significantly
[22:12] <wildwind> diverdude:  one line instead of two and options
[22:14] <diverdude> wildwind, but those 2 lines do not indicate which directory to export
[22:15] <wildwind> diverdude: really? what do they indicate then?
[22:15] <binBlob> Is it possible to dd only used space of a whole drive ?
[22:17] <diverdude> wildwind, for users home dir to be exported.
[22:17] <tekkbuzz> binBlob: no, there are other tools for that.
[22:17] <wildwind> binBlob: no. dd works with sectors, while 'used' is a filesystem term (a levels higher)
[22:18] <wildwind> binBlob: *level
[22:20] <wildwind> diverdude: /export is a single mount point for exported dirs. it should present in file
[22:21] <AndEilert> Hello good people, i could need some help here befoer this puppy crash totally
[22:21] <binBlob> wildwind: well i want to backup my raspberry pi sd card, which has 2 partitions but I dont really want to save 8gb as only 2 or 3gb are in use. Which tool should i use for that task ?
[22:21] <wildwind> AndEilert: you mean Puppy distro? :)
[22:22] <wildwind> binBlob: tar
[22:22] <AndEilert> Ubuntu had an update right, downloaded it, installed it, and it asked for a reboot.. sure.. but it would have to wait for a little bit, was doing some work... AAAND, i was stupid enough to leave my computer for abit, and i ran out of power... and no my updater wont work, it saiys"Failed to download repository info, check your internet connection"  AND, my screen has been really weird, giving my these awful colored waves flashing here
[22:23] <AndEilert> wildwind: no, it was more of a figure of speech, sorry :(
[22:23] <binBlob> wildwind: can tar also restore the partitions ?
[22:24] <wildwind> AndEilert: i see, don't apologize
[22:24] <wildwind> binBlob: no
[22:24] <tekkbuzz> binBlob: try Clonezilla
[22:24] <wildwind> binBlob: CloneZilla can
[22:24] <michael87> ok I have a question. I am about to dual boot windows 7 with ubuntu. But I want to know, is video playback better in ubuntu or windows with video files with say vlc or xbmc player?
[22:25] <binBlob> wildwind: kk gonna look into that thanks
[22:25] <wildwind> michael87: depend on files and your hardware
[22:26] <michael87> wildwind, I think it is a sada drive. and most of my files I encode to h264
[22:26] <michael87> wildwind, lol sorry confused hardware with hardrive
[22:27] <michael87> wildwind, intel graphics card built into the motherboard on dell laptop
[22:27] <michael87> wildwind, 256mbs graphics
[22:27] <wildwind> michael87: if they are not so heavy to require hardware decoding, don't worry
[22:28] <sifu_> so i got a vm with 12.04....just installed it....but when i try to run sudo apt-get update....i just keep getting this: Connecting to security.ubuntu.com]Connection to <IP_ADDRESS> closed by remote host. Connection to <IP_ADDRESS> closed.
[22:28] <wildwind> michael87: test on youtube
[22:29] <michael87> wildwind, I'm not worried about that. I'm just a video quality freak.
[22:29] <michael87> wildwind, erm tested videos on youtube. They run fine save a little video tear on fullscreen
[22:29] <sifu_> is it something to do with the ssh? or why is it quiting the vm on that...i can install all right...only on sudo apt-get update it quits the vm
[22:30] <AndEilert> no one with a solution to my repository problem?:(
[22:31] <YokoBr> could someone give me a hand with openvpn on ubuntu server 12.04?
[22:31] <wildwind> michael87: as of tearing, MPC is still leading
[22:32] <aleza84> Hey anyone knows an open source photo web gallery software that can read/scan paths on filesystems (I tried zenphoto)
[22:32] <michael87> wildwind, vlc doesn't tear though it runs fine. I just think that video quality seems better on my laptop then they do on my desktop wich runs windows 7. I don't know if it is an os thing or is vlc naturally better on ubuntu
[22:33] <th0r> aleza84: albumshaper?
[22:33] <blueeagle> michael87: It could be that the laptop has a slower LCD screen so the artifacts are not showing as clearly.
[22:33] <michael87> wildwind, and windows media player sucks for everything on windows lol
[22:33] <wildwind> michael87: monitor maybe
[22:33] <YokoBr> is there any channel to talk about openvpn? I really need a help
[22:33] <aleza84> th0r: web...
[22:34] <blueeagle> michael87: To test that hook up your laptop to the screen you use on your other computer and see.
[22:34] <michael87> blueeagle, erm. so what you are sayying is it has nothing to do with the os?
[22:34] <wildwind> michael87: MPC Home Cinema rules on win
[22:34] <th0r> aleza84: web how? Albumshaper creates thumbs and html pages
[22:34] <blueeagle> michael87: I am saying that "seems like" is so vague that the monitor is a real possibillity.
[22:35] <aleza84> th0r: I was looking a software I can drop on /var/www that I can configure to scan a path /media/blabla/images and creates the galleries
[22:35] <blueeagle> michael87: Of course different codecs used in different OSes may show real difference, but all codecs implement standards and those standards don't necessarily leave much room to play within.
[22:35] <michael87> blueeagle, it probably is moniter. or my graphics. my desktop motherboard uses ati built in 256 while my laptop is an integrated 256 intel.
[22:36] <sep9407> hello, I am using an old PC and thinking on buying a new all in one pc, with touch display, does anyone have expierence with touch displays?
[22:36] <wildwind> YokoBr: if it's not too weird, ask here
[22:37] <blueeagle> sep9407: Yeah. For a desktop system it is pointless. For a keyboardless or tablet style PC it works well.
[22:37] <th0r> sep9407: look up "gorilla arm"
[22:37] <sep9407> thanks
[22:38] <YokoBr> well guys, i can connect to my openvpn server, but all the clients are getting the same ip, <IP_ADDRESS> and also they can't see each other
[22:38] <daftykins> what's wrong with "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java" ?
[22:39] <daftykins> seems the script isn't installed on server 64-bit
[22:39] <daftykins> 12.04
[22:39] <daftykins> got it, nm
[22:40] <blueeagle> YokoBr: Are you trying to connect several computers on different networks together with a VPN server? If so then you need additional magic. What OpenVPN (or any vpn server) does is connect computers on different networks to a target network, not to each other.
[22:40] <wildwind> YokoBr: to 'see each other' go through this section of official guide: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#scope
[22:42] <syntroPi> wildwind, how would i invoke dvblast? i tried "dvblast -a 0 -c 362000000-qam-256.cfg -f 362000000 -m qam_256 -b 8 -e" which exits with "error: setting frontend failed (Invalid argument)"
[22:43] <syntroPi> with vlc i can tune to that frequency
[22:44] <wildwind> syntroPi: sorry, never used it
[22:46] <syntroPi> wildwind, do you know about any good howto
[22:47] <rayston> is there a boot cd out there with all the tools I need to resize an encrypted partition already on it?
[22:48] <wildwind> syntroPi: no more than Google tells me
[22:49] <wildwind> rayston: encrypted with ...?
[22:52] <Gnea> rayston: a regular ubuntu cd can do that: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rescue-an-encrypted-luks-lvm-volume.html
[22:54] <diverdude> ohh how i wish stuff in linux was not so buggy :(
[22:56] <doomlord_> diverdude you can fix it :)
[22:57] <diverdude> doomlord, how ?
[22:58] <Limix> hello
[22:59] <Limix> I have a question... it's possible to open MACOSX File with Ubuntu 12.04LTS ? Like Wine(=Windows)
[22:59] <wildwind> diverdude: one way is to find and report bugs
[22:59] <wildwind> Limix: what file? a program?
[23:00] <syntroPi> can anyone here help me getting started with dvblast?
[23:01] <rmobenchain> I just did a fsck on my hard drive, but I'm not sure what I am looking at.  Can I get some help interpreting?
[23:02] <wildwind> syntroPi: check it: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/PCTVSystems_QuatroStick-nano_520e
[23:02] <b3rz3rk3r> If anyone is familiar with Bash scripts can you tell me why this is failing please? http://pastebin.com/xurqS82W
[23:02] <wildwind> syntroPi: issues part may apply to you
[23:03] <syntroPi> wildwind, well maybe, but with vlc itself i can watch all those channels just fine
[23:04] <wildwind> b3rz3rk3r: what you mean "failing"?
[23:05] <syntroPi> wildwind, i am trying to set it up according to this howto http://angrytechnician.wordpress.com/2010/07/23/how-to-stream-every-channel-from-freeview-onto-your-network/
[23:05] <b3rz3rk3r> wildwind, it is printing every minute to the log file set, which it isn't meant to do
[23:06] <b3rz3rk3r> wildwind, it's only meant to print on failure to ping the address, but i can ping the address manually and get a response every time, so the script is failing somewhere
[23:08] <Gameman098> hi
[23:08] <Gameman098> i have a windows xp computer
[23:09] <Gameman098> my specs are 3.2 GHz and 448 MB of RAM
[23:09] <Gameman098> will Ubuntu work on my computer
[23:09] <Gameman098> helo?
[23:10] <Gameman098> *hello?
[23:10] <Gameman098> hi
[23:10] <b3rz3rk3r> Gameman098, try #lubuntu instead
[23:10] <Gameman098> alright
[23:10] <Gameman098> thank you
[23:10] <b3rz3rk3r> np
[23:13] <wildwind> b3rz3rk3r: try ping ... &&  echo `date` >> logfile
[23:13] <wildwind> b3rz3rk3r: instead of if
[23:13] <wildwind> b3rz3rk3r: sorry, || not &&
[23:14] <syntroPi> wildwind, ok got it working needed to specify the correct symbol rate
[23:15] <linelevel> Hi guys. My smartphone is able to act as a wifi hotspot (a WEP-secured ad hoc network). I can connect to it from Windows and it previously worked from Ubuntu 10.10 on this computer. Since I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04 (clean install), I cannot connect to this ad hoc network. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this problem?
[23:15] <syntroPi> wildwind, although it seems to have more errors in the stream as vlc used to have
[23:19] <wildwind> b3rz3rk3r: more clear: ping ... || date >> pinglog
[23:21] <binBlob> linelevel: looks like nm-applet could give you a log
[23:21] <harris> how do i install swrare iron browser
[23:22] <rayston> thanx gnea
[23:22] <moses_> whats the standard ftp server called in ubuntu?
[23:22] <binBlob> harris: if it is in the repos: apt get-install "yourpacket" als you have to search a ppa
[23:22] <moses_> or which one should i get
[23:23] <binBlob> moses_: what do you mean with standart ftp ?
[23:23] <binBlob> moses_: you have to know where you want to connect to
[23:24] <wildwind> moses_: several are available, none is installed by default. choose yourself
[23:25] <moses_> which is the best then in your opinion
[23:25] <harris> binBlob,
[23:25] <harris> http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_news.php
[23:26] <wildwind> moses_: what for
[23:27] <OerHeks> harris download the 32 or 64 bit deb and double click :-)
[23:27] <wildwind> moses_:  to transfer couple files a day or daily backups ssh is enough
[23:28] <harris> OerHeks, the .tar or .deb
[23:28] <OerHeks> harris yes
[23:28] <harris> which
[23:28] <moses_> ok im gonna need help
[23:28] <moses_> I made a user
[23:28] <moses_> who doesnt have enough access
[23:29] <OerHeks> did i say .deb or tar, harris ?
[23:29] <wildwind> harris: Ubuntu is deb-based
[23:29] <twig11> I'm unable to ssh into my ubuntu 12.04 box from any other device on the network. It has worked intermittently in the past, but at present I can't get in even with the firewall turned off. "ssh localhost" works fine, so I think that means the ssh server is running. Running nmap *[ip of problem machine] from another computer on the network returns "Strange error from connect (22):Invalid argument" What's the next step to troubleshoot this issue. I don't know
[23:29] <twig11> much about ssh and I'm stumped.
[23:30] <moses_> when i try and add a folder using ftp it doesnt let me says permission denied
[23:30] <moses_> what did i do wrong?
[23:30] <jrib> twig11: it's probably an issue with your router
[23:31] <wildwind> moses_: you connect to some ftp server (not yours), right?
[23:31] <istvan> I'm looking ot find the the css from any directory starting with F -- the following doesn't work. What have I done wrong? find . -wholename "F*/*.css"
[23:31] <binBlob> twig11: could you post the ssh command ?
[23:32] <twig11> jrib: I'm running dd-wrt on a Buffalo router. As far as I know I don't have anything specific set up that should affect that machine and not the others. What setting would you recommend checking?
[23:32] <twig11> binBlob: the command I'm using to try to log in via ssh?
[23:32] <binBlob> twig11: y
[23:32] <moses_> wildwind: i connected to an sshftp and used an account I created on this computer
[23:33] <WeThePeople> is there a good desktop calendar for ubuntu 12.04.2 x64?
[23:34] <twig11> binBlob: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>It simply times out.
[23:34] <doomlord_> if i have damaged software sources or something how can i reset that
[23:35] <Dr_willis> if you mean your /etc/apt/sources.list file? or files in the apt cache?
[23:35] <wildwind> moses_: sshftp = sftp? what command do you use to connect?
[23:35] <doomlord_> let me clarify my problem:
[23:35] <reddeath68> When I run the command 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' in ubuntu 13.04 x86 i get the following output 'ERROR: could not insert 'ndiswrapper': Exec format error     any ideas how I can remedy this problem?
[23:36] <twig11> jrib: I have looked at my router settings but I can't see anything that should be causing this problem.
[23:36] <Nyghtshade> I'm setting up Ubuntu Server 12.04.2 on an old proliant. I'm planning on doing a Ubuntu+MineOS kind of think as listed here: http://minecraft.codeemo.com/mineoswiki/index.php/Ubuntu I'm trying to install java but I can't cd into /usr/java/ it keeps saying it's not a file or directory, but when I mkdir /usr/java/ it says it already exists. When I ls in /usr/ java shows up as red. And when I try removing it, I get told I can't becaus
[23:36] <moses_> I can connect to it I just cant make any folders inside of a folder
[23:36] <doomlord_> the software updater keeps saying "failed to download repositorry information"  ... but the internet connection works, i can view web-pages
[23:36] <moses_> How can i give this user the access to do this even through ftp?
[23:36] <twig11> WeThePeople: I use the Lightning calendar extension to Thunderbird.
[23:36] <doomlord_> i'd like to upgrade the install on that machine to 13.04;
[23:37] <doomlord_> its got 12.10 at the minute
[23:37] <sacredchao> wtf why am I in this channel
[23:37] <wildwind> Nyghtshade: ls -l /usr/java
[23:37] <sacredchao> Anyone using Ubuntu try Linux Mint, god help you
[23:37] <reddeath68> When I run the command 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' in ubuntu 13.04 x86 i get the following output 'ERROR: could not insert 'ndiswrapper': Exec format error     any ideas how I can remedy this problem?
[23:37] <mrdavid> how do I add the time/date to the top bar in 13.04 Unity?
[23:37] <doomlord_> sacredchao : i like global menu
[23:38] <binBlob> doomlord_: the propper way is actually to make a clean install
[23:38] <jrib> twig11: you can check that you don't have a firewall or anything similar blocking connections on the server itself but there wouldn't be anything unless you set it up
[23:38] <wildwind> moses_: what program are you using now
[23:39] <doomlord_> binBlob nice idea but i've burned to disks and they both refuse to boot
[23:39] <binBlob> doomlord_: tried with a flash drive ?
[23:39] <inca> ubuntu 13.04 i can't install a .bin file,  ./ doesn't work
[23:40] <Nyghtshade> Thank you.
[23:40] <moses_> winscp
[23:40] <doomlord_> i get this error from the software updater: W:GPG error httpL//ppa.launchpad.net quantal Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified becaues the public key is not available ..... failted to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.et/upubuntu-com/nvidia/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources ....
[23:40] <moses_> for the ftp
[23:40] <reddeath68> When I run the command 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' in ubuntu 13.04 x86 i get the following output 'ERROR: could not insert 'ndiswrapper': Exec format error     any ideas how I can remedy this problem?
[23:40] <inca> i already gave it permissions chmod +x and then execute ./ and nothing done
[23:40] <twig11> jrib, right, turning off the firewall on the machine I'm trying to reach makes no difference. And the firewall on the router shouldn't have any effect within the network, should it?
[23:40] <jrib> twig11: it can
[23:40] <moses_> why cant my user create a folder in his own directory?
[23:40] <doomlord_> i have one working usb stick around, i'll resort to wiping that
[23:41] <jrib> twig11: can you reach other services?  Can you ping the machien?
[23:41] <doomlord_> i've had a lot of trouble creating usb sticks too
[23:41] <doomlord_> i've got linux mint on it at the minute
[23:41] <malimbar> is there any reason Rhythmbox wouldn't be able to rip a CD?
[23:41] <twig11> jrib, yes I can ping it. funny I hadn't thought to check that before though
[23:42] <wildwind> moses_ copy a folder with another folder with file from local machine, does it work?
[23:42] <jrib> twig11: what sort of feedback do you get on the client exactly?
[23:42] <OerHeks> malimbar, you need the Lame codec to rip mp3, it is not installed default with restricted extra's
[23:43] <malimbar> OerHeks, I'm trying to rip to ogg, still says the codecs aren't installed. Then it can't install them for some unknown reason
[23:43] <twig11> jrib, nothing until I get a message that the connection has timed out. let me run the command now and see exactly what it ends up saying.
[23:43] <moses_> im on root on this machine
[23:43] <moses_> wildwind:
[23:43] <reddeath68> any help with my problem would be nice
[23:44] <wildwind> moses_: i mean with winscp
[23:45] <Dr_willis> Hmm.
[23:45] <doomlord_> its really not my day today... i cannot find my one working USB stick
[23:45] <doomlord_> is there notthing i can do to purge/reset package sources
[23:45] <twig11> jrib, just yesterday I set up an ssh connection to this same machine through nautilus, added a bookmark pointing to it, and used it several times. It worked fine for an hour or so and then quit.
[23:46] <moses_> wildwind: yeah that works
[23:46] <moses_> wildwind: this user that im logged into the ubuntu machine doesnt have permission to create folders
[23:46] <wildwind> moses_: and simply creating directory does not?
[23:47] <moses_> not on the server im logged into
[23:47] <moses_> yeah it denies me
[23:47] <twig11> jrib, this is all I get: "ssh: connect to host 192.168.**.* port 22: Connection timed out"
[23:47] <wildwind> moses_: it's a problem with winscp then
[23:49] <reddeath68> When I run the command 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' in ubuntu 13.04 x86 i get the following output 'ERROR: could not insert 'ndiswrapper': Exec format error     any ideas how I can remedy this problem?
[23:49] <twig11> jrib, if I run the command in verbose mode I get the following, then eventually the timeout message: OpenSSH_6.1p1 Debian-4, OpenSSL 1.0.1c 10 May 2012
[23:49] <twig11> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[23:49] <twig11> debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for *
[23:49] <twig11> debug1: Connecting to 192.168.**.* [192.168.**.*] port 22.
[23:50] <jrib> twig11: what's the output of « sudo iptables -L » on the server?
[23:51] <moses_> wildwind: no
[23:51] <jrib> twig11: and you're censoring the local ip? (why?)
[23:51] <twig11> jrib, thanks for the help, gotta run now, but I'll check that when I get back. Sorry to take off on you.
[23:51] <moses_> its a problem with the permissions of this user on this ubuntu computer
[23:51] <jrib> twig11: it's cool, I had to step out too :)
[23:53] <wildwind> reddeath68: any chance you've got x86-64 version of the module instead of x86?
[23:53] <doomlord_> ok i will simply have to wait till I can get another USB stick.
[23:54] <wildwind> moses_: which protocol exactly are you using to connect, ftp or sftp?
[23:54] <doomlord_> the spare machine has an nvidia gt640 .. i want to check if ubuntu unity works on it before moving that card across to my main machine - on 12.10 compositing window managers were unsupported on this card
[23:54] <moses_> its sftp im sure because i didnt install an ftp
[23:55] <Dr_willis> So your ssh user is using winscp and cant access some directrory? but can access their home? or  did i miss somthing
[23:55] <mradot> ive heard clamav is the best anti-virus for ubuntu is this true?
[23:56] <linelevel> Hi. My Android smartphone runs an ad-hoc network (so my laptop can get wireless internet through my phone's data plan). I can connect to this ad-hoc network in Windows on this same computer, and it also worked when I used to run Ubuntu 10.10 on this computer. I recently installed Ubuntu 12.04 (clean install, not upgrade), and now when I try to connect to the ad-hoc network, it just keeps asking me for my password and never connects. Moreover, once I
[23:57] <linelevel> ^ Did that cut off due to length?
[23:57] <Dr_willis> mradot,  'best' is to use several differnt AV scanner tools. But you do realize most all those tools just scan windows files for windows viruses?
[23:57] <reddeath68> When I run the command 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' in ubuntu 13.04 x86 i get the following output 'ERROR: could not insert 'ndiswrapper': Exec format error     any ideas how I can remedy this problem?
[23:58] <mradot> Dr_willis: i dont use windows
[23:58] <Dr_willis> mradot,  then you really dont have a need for an AV tool on linux
[23:58] <syntroPi> wildwind, i got it now: i received it with udp but the stream from dvblast was rtp... so with rtp it works just fine
[23:59] <wildwind> syntroPi: glad to hear it


 It seems that ubuntu-wallpapers-hirsute has not been uploaded yet to the main archive. Will the UI Freeze be postponed, like it was for groovy?
 @popeydc any idea about this ^^^
 We discussed wallpapers today in a meeting, it's in hand
 @popeydc @philipz Thank you.
 No problemo! :D Any time.
 :D
 Just lmk, because I then colorize the wallpaper
 Let me know also guys if LP #1919255 happens to you guys
 is this on the cinnamon remix?
 @ItzSwirlz ^^
 knowing what you're testing is important ;)
[22:12] <ItzSwirlz> yes
[22:12] <ItzSwirlz> but a while ago there was another tracker issue that caused a crash that was patched
 reproduction steps?
 or was this on install?
[22:13] <ItzSwirlz> well this isn't a fresh install but it is on hirsute. It just happened. I didn't really do anything
 *hisses at the sourceforge download link*
[22:14] <ItzSwirlz> ._.
 but... I also don't see Cinnamon Remix on the list of official flavors of Ubuntu... *points at the ubuntu.com page on flavors*
[22:15] <teward> just saying.
[22:15] <ItzSwirlz> Yeah, I wonder why we are using Sourceforge. :kekw:
 well now you get to figure that out :P
 in any case, the issue exists on the ISO as well
 so it's deeper than just your 'upgraded' install :P
[22:19] <ItzSwirlz> hm. Well technicallyyyyyy for Hirsute I only upload a few times at freeze points
[22:19] <ItzSwirlz> I do bi-daily builds on GitHub of the real fresh stuff... just upgrade the ISO first
 remixes are unofficial flavors :D (re @teward001: but... I also don't see Cinnamon Remix on the list of official flavors of Ubuntu... *points at the ubuntu.com page on flavors*)
[22:20] <teward> yeah that's what i thought
 ubuntu mate started off as a remix
 in which case perhaps ItzSwirlz should keep that in mind when filing their bugs :P  (Just saying)
[22:20] <ItzSwirlz> yes, I know but that doesnt mean a) remix bugs can also impact flavors b) our bugs don't matter
 "It just started happening" without telling us "Oh I'm using an unofficial remix." is an important point to make ;)
 didn't say that
[22:21] <ItzSwirlz> -_-
 just making a point you have to be verbose when saying "Yeah I see a problem" and don't tell us on which you found it :)
[22:21] <ItzSwirlz> Anyways, LP #1916323 was pushed out about a montha go
 that's the error i'm seeing
 *dumps the trace*
[22:21] <ItzSwirlz> i see
[22:22] <ItzSwirlz> but I think the log is different-this was tracker miners this is just tracker so /shrug
[22:25] <teward> well
[22:25] <teward> the trace i'm seeing and you are probably seeing is in a Kubuntu tracked bug, but it's PRIVATE due to crash dumps
[22:25] <teward> and it goes back to tracker-miners
[22:26] <ItzSwirlz> That'd make sense then.
[22:26] <ItzSwirlz> I manually switched on public, so maybe mark one of the two as a duplicate?
 wait which one did you switch public?
 actually
 i think the trace is different but only just
[22:35] <ItzSwirlz> i made https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tracker/+bug/1919255 public
 ItzSwirlz: if Apport didn't detect that as a dump that's already filed then you have a different issue, Apport pointed my trace on the clean install ISO to the Kubuntu private one.  if you're getting different trace it might be different.


[01:06] <Spike_> hello
[01:08] <Spike_> I installed Lubuntu 13.04 on a mac G5 and If the keyboard is not connected to it during the boot the system freezes on the Lubuntu logo screen
[01:08] <Spike_> any idea how i can fix that?
[01:14] <Spike_> anybody reading in this channel?
[07:07] <cpt> Hey peeps. I've been trying to get virtualbox working but keep getting an error when I click start. Lubuntu 13.04 and vbox 4.2
[07:08] <cpt> Not sure how many lines the error would take up.
[16:24] <n-iCe> hello
[19:21] <yakeb> hi forum, i was just wondering what is the easiest way to permanently disable desktop icons in lubuntu default desktop environment. currently, i just run the command sudo pkill pcmanfm everytime i start up.
[20:25] <zlude> Hello! i have a MacG5 trying to install Lubuntu for PPC, i have installed ok but the boot is showing : "Loading Second Stage Bootstrap" in Loop! pressing "L"
[20:27] <phillw> zlude: head over to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PPC%26Mac64 which has links to the various FAQ sections.
[22:23] <n-iCe> hi