[06:15] <darkxst> @pilot in
[07:47] <mitya57> Trevinho, hi, so are you still going to do a libwnck upstream release?
[07:58] <dholbach> good morning
[08:42] <caribou> We don't support direct upgrades from Precise to Xenial, right ?
[08:47] <rbasak> caribou: correct. Must go via Trusty.
[08:47] <caribou> rbasak: thanks
[09:31] <ginggs> doko, can you remove the armhf binary for julia 0.4.2-3 please? it is holding up the suitesparse transition. i don't yet know why 0.4.3 FTBFS on armhf in ubuntu (debian is fine), and 0.4.2-3 now also FTBFS on  armhf.
[09:37] <darkxst> @pilot out
[09:43]  * dholbach hugs darkxst
[09:48] <Trevinho> mitya57: hi, yes... I'll do that soon
[09:48] <darkxst> dholbach, np ;)
[09:51] <seb128> darkxst, btw that font/seed bug, it has an approved MIR
[09:51] <seb128> you commented saying it needs one
[09:53] <mitya57> Trevinho, ta
[09:53] <darkxst> seb128, yeh saw aaron's comment
[13:07] <caribou> Can someone explain why grab-merge outlines conflicts on files that are part of the pristine tarball ?
[13:07] <sil2100> dholbach: hey! Regarding
[13:07] <sil2100> unity-settings-daemon
[13:07] <sil2100> dholbach: this is a CI Train released package, the MPs were for the train to release them ;)
[13:07] <sil2100> Since it's managed in bzr
[13:07] <caribou> shouldn't those only be touched by patches in debian/patches ?
[13:08] <sil2100> dholbach: so no need for that to be sponsored, it'll be released as part of a silo
[13:22] <dholbach> sil2100: I'm sorry - I uploaded it to xenial
[13:25] <mitya57> dholbach, sil2100: we should probably remove these two entries then
[13:25] <mitya57> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/ubuntu-sponsoring/trunk/view/head:/sponsors-page.py#L23
[13:25] <mitya57> u-s-d and u-c-c
[13:25] <seb128> no we shouldn't
[13:25] <sil2100> dholbach: no worries, I already published the big silo with all 3 projects
[13:26] <seb128> those are projects that we maintain and we want to have changes sponsored
[13:27] <mitya57> seb128, ok… I don't see why these two should be special and different from other Canonical-is-upstream stuff, though…
[13:28] <seb128> well other projects should probably be on the sponsoring list as well
[13:29] <seb128> since those are things that are part of Ubuntu and uploaded to the archive
[13:29] <mitya57> Then fine :)
[13:29] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/~unity-settings-daemon-team/+members#active
[13:29] <Laney> anyone in ubuntu-desktop can indeed sponsor these changes
[14:14] <__marco> Hello. I am sorry to boring you, but I would like to receive a comment about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vde2/+bug/776818
[14:16] <__marco> vde2 is a big package and its inclusion in main is not feasible, but the inclusion of one of its library is enough to support vde in qemu
[14:18] <__marco> Its inclusion in Ubuntu 16.04 would be a big goal, but the bug report seems stagnant.
[14:18] <__marco> Should I open a new bug report for the inclusion of that library only?
[14:22] <seb128> __marco, no need of a new report no
[14:22] <seb128> (doh, nicknames starting with a _ are annoying to type!)
[14:23] <Unit193> seb128: Irssi is for the lazy, it knows that and will complete "marc<tab>" with __marco. :P
[14:26] <seb128> Unit193, clever ;-)
[14:56] <Mirv> pitti: regarding https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/static/britney/xenial/landing-023/excuses.html - could we get some retries for the failed non-overridden ones? none of the failures seem to have something to do with alt-tab behavior that the update changes. also one qtmir i386 rerun needed at https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/static/britney/vivid/landing-023/excuses.html
[14:58] <Mirv> pitti: kwin is probably something to do with "new hybris or not" as seen at http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/k/kwin/xenial/amd64/
[15:08] <__marco> Unit193: weechat does the same
[15:50] <seb128> bdmurray_, hey, is there a known issue with the retracers? most of 16.04 entries on the weekly view have no symbols
[15:53] <seb128> bdmurray_, e.g
[15:53] <seb128> nautilus (11) /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgio-2.0.so.0.4705.0+b1681 → /usr/bin/nautilus+46a8f → /usr/bin/nautilus+36b57 → /usr/bin/nautilus+48719 → /usr/bin/nautilus+487d3 → /usr/bin/nautilus+4916a → /usr/bin/nautilus+49692 → /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0.4705.0+feff → /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0.4705.0+2250e → /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0.4705.0+2ad8c → /usr/lib/x86_64-lin
[15:53] <seb128> ux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0.4705.0+2b0bf → /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0.1800.6+35c9fa → /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0.4705.0+16748 → /usr/bin/nautilus+71c9b → /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0.4705.0+14d25
[15:53] <seb128> ups, sorry, I didn't think that it would copy chars not rendered on screen
[15:56] <bdmurray_> seb128: Do you have a url I could take a look at?
[15:57] <seb128> bdmurray, https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/cb2fdb3c6dbe918d9e1c57027213f63dc685e402
[15:57] <seb128> https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/8b87caa038f87a22ec7dda992a85a22f583d6144
[15:57] <seb128> https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/1d6559c22aacf083d27a9f591f320d97706adc22
[15:57] <seb128> https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/ea90702c93dd24bd24156ea1bb7c013b070292b7
[15:57] <seb128> 4 components differents
[15:57] <seb128> apt nautilus u-c-c gnome-disks
[15:58] <seb128> there are quite some others examples on the weekly view
[15:59] <bdmurray> seb128: I'll dig into it.
[15:59] <seb128> thanks
[16:30] <tinoco> hello. im having problems understanding where mstflint xenial package is coming from
[16:30] <tinoco> https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mstflint
[16:30] <tinoco> it looks like there isn't a xenial lp branch for latest debian merge
[16:30] <tinoco> xenial is merged with sid but i can't find its bzr branch
[16:31] <tinoco> does someone know why ?
[16:31] <tinoco> the merge request came from: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mstflint/+bug/1528791
[16:38] <cjwatson> tinoco: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2015-November/039010.html
[16:38] <cjwatson> tinoco: just grab the source package
[16:39] <tinoco> cjwatson: ok. will work with debdiffs only for SRUs then
[16:39] <tinoco> cjwatson: tku
[16:39] <cjwatson> that was always a good idea anyway, the importer's behaviour was always especially ropey for SRUs
[16:39] <cjwatson> even when it worked at all
[16:39] <tinoco> cool
[16:51] <mitya57> And that reminds me that half of our packaging.ubuntu.com guide still describes UDD workflow
[16:58] <tinoco> mitya57: i was going to send an email to ubuntu-devel regarding this
[16:59] <pitti> kees, infinity: TB meeting reminder
[16:59] <infinity> stgraber: And you.
[17:14] <doko> xnox, is numactl supposed to ftbfs on s390x?
[17:18] <awe__> seb128, thanks for reviewing my bluez mp; just updated it based on your comments
[17:18] <seb128> awe__, thanks, let me have a look
[17:20] <seb128> awe__, looks good, approved
[17:20] <awe__> thanks seb128
[17:20] <seb128> awe__, you might want to set a commit message, CI landings tend to want one
[17:20] <seb128> yw!
[17:21] <tinoco> doko: xnox: PR/SM manages physical CPU dispatchers and it changes whenever a LPAR is activated/deactivated (or, if IFL is shared, dispatcher can change vCPU mappings).
[17:21] <tinoco> so.. i don't see numactl working on s390x even for LPAR deployments
[17:22] <doko> tinoco, ta
[17:22] <tinoco> you can get a "virtual topology" having an idea if CPUs are close to each other at that particular moment
[17:22] <tinoco> but the topology is "virtual"
[17:22] <tinoco> not related to the physical one
[17:22] <awe__> seb128, ack
[17:28] <awe__> seb128, commit msg added; thanks again!
[17:29] <seb128> awe__, yw!
[17:41] <xnox> doko, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[17:42] <doko> tinoco, is openmpi "supported" on s390x? e.g. I just test built it: https://launchpad.net/~doko/+archive/ubuntu/toolchain/+build/8929782
[17:42] <tinoco> doko: despite the fact that running mpi jobs on s390x is way expensive
[17:42] <tinoco> it should work for tcp/ip intercommunication
[17:43] <doko> tinoco, cool, then we don't have to care about mpich
[17:43] <tinoco> doko: i haven't ever seen someone running openmp/mpi stuff
[17:43] <tinoco> considering that s390x had 1 fp per cycle
[17:43] <tinoco> :o)(
[17:43] <tinoco> now it has 2 :o
[17:44] <doko> sure, but it makes things easier when we can handle it in the archive like all other archs
[17:45] <tinoco> doko: +1
[17:46] <tinoco> i dont think they "depend" on something that would ftbfs
[17:46] <tinoco> mpi implementations might rely on infiniband (librdma/libmlx/libibverbs)
[17:46] <tinoco> that *could* in theory be problematic. but then, for s390x, we could remove those dependencies
[17:46] <tinoco> and stick with tcpip
[18:03] <xnox> doko, +1 to switch to openmpi.
[19:21] <pitti> caribou: hey! are you planning on merging rsyslog again, to fix bug 1534106? it's a real nuisance and breaks juju-local quite hard :/
[20:15] <xnox> pitti, could you please let systemd through? multipath tools brekage is known and being work on.
[20:15] <pitti> xnox: I thought it was already fixed
[20:15] <xnox> horum. let me check harder then.
[20:21] <pitti> xnox: I retried it this morning, see http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/m/multipath-tools/xenial/i386/ -- the retry ran with ubuntu11
[20:22] <xnox> pitti, yeah, i see it fails to remove loopbacks, cause the device is still busy.
[20:22] <xnox> i think kpartx -av, followed by -dv is too quick, and needs "udevadm settle" in between.
[20:22] <pitti> xnox: I suppose that's just a race in the test now, though?
[20:22]  * pitti lets it through then, not related to the new systemd
[20:22] <xnox> let me upload that, and see if that improves things.
[20:23] <pitti> xnox: hint committed
[20:42] <mdeslaur> is anyone planning on trying to get wine back in sync with debian?


[00:05] <ascent> goodmorning all :)
[00:09] <mynous> morning :\
[00:10] <ascent> Quiet in here :)
[00:11] <mynous> yeah, which means im still at a loss :P
[00:11] <ascent> Why's that?
[00:12] <mynous> trying to figure out why my servers networking abilities are acting to strangely
[00:12] <ascent> :) that's no easy brainer I suppose :)
[00:12] <mynous> nope
[00:12] <mynous> its the strangest thing ive seen too
[00:12] <ascent> any particular symptoms?
[00:14] <mynous> well im basically running only rtorrent and vsftpd on it at the moment and when i tarnsfer files through vsftpd transfers in rtorrent come to a stop even tho vsftpd has been rate limited
[00:14] <mynous> also it seems that if uploads are going quickly then downloads suffer or the other way around
[00:15] <ascent> well, that's common on adsl-type links. Not sure what you're connected to?
[00:15] <mynous> well its on a 10mb full-duplex connection :\
[00:15] <ascent> and is it really full duplexed ? ifconfig says so? switch leds say so?
[00:16] <mynous> i cant see the switch leds, its remote
[00:16] <ascent> ah okay
[00:16] <ascent> ethtool?
[00:16] <ascent> dmesg?
[00:16] <mynous> Settings for eth0:
[00:17] <mynous> 	Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
[00:17] <mynous> 	Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
[00:17] <mynous> 	                        100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
[00:17] <mynous> 	Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
[00:17] <mynous> 	Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
[00:17] <mynous> 	                        100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
[00:17] <mynous> 	Advertised auto-negotiation: No
[00:17] <mynous> 	Speed: 10Mb/s
[00:17] <mynous> 	Duplex: Full
[00:17] <mynous> 	Port: MII
[00:17] <mynous> 	PHYAD: 1
[00:17] <mynous> 	Transceiver: internal
[00:17] <mynous> 	Auto-negotiation: off
[00:17] <mynous> 	Supports Wake-on: pumbg
[00:17] <mynous> 	Wake-on: d
[00:17] <mynous> 	Current message level: 0x00000001 (1)
[00:17] <mynous> 	Link detected: yes
[00:17] <ascent> Auto-negotiation setting to "On" might help?
[00:18] <mynous> possibly but im trying to find out if the particular nic has a problem with that as ive read some do
[00:18] <ascent> right -- and, remote, right? nice.. :/
[00:19] <mynous> also when i first got it i was using considerably more than my 10mb connection so i was told to use : ethtool -s eth0 speed 10 duplex full autoneg off
[00:19] <mynous> yeah i know, its a rhine II from whati can tell from lspci
[00:20] <mynous> so im not sure why they specifically mentions autoneg off
[00:21] <mynous> i suppose autoneg on couldnt do much harm other than not work?
[00:21] <ascent> right :)
[00:21] <ascent> It won't break a thing.
[00:21] <mynous> wouldnt be the first time
[00:21] <mynous> i uninstalled libncurses a while back :P
[00:21] <ascent> but -- you we're using more than your 10mb connection? are they rate-limiting you by having you ``downgrade'' yourself? ;)
[00:22] <ascent> oh, nice one ;)
[00:22] <mynous> yeah thats why they wanted it set at 10mb
[00:22] <arrrghhh> so i partitioned some drives with cfdisk, and now i can find the uuid from the vol_id command, but it doesn't show when i do ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -alh
[00:23] <mynous> ascent: well i tried it, we will see
[00:23] <ascent> mynous: okay :)
[00:23] <mynous> nic is still working yay!
[00:23] <ascent> hurray ;)
[00:24] <mynous> what is it that autoneg does?
[00:24] <ascent> it tries to negotiate with the next device about a speed both devices know of
[00:24] <ascent> in general, just enabling it won't hurt, only specific cases where you need to explicitly set it off
[00:25] <mynous> i cant see any reasons why you would explicitly want it off
[00:25] <mynous> it does "seem" to have helped slightly
[00:25] <jhouse_> With all this just enough operating system stuff, is ubuntu server now dominantly command line?  My install of 8.10 server wasn't X-based like I had expected.
[00:25] <ascent> I do -- at work, we use a fiber connection and that device doesn't cope with autoneg's :)
[00:26] <ascent> jhouse_: just installed -server as well, in vmware
[00:26] <ascent> well, almost done, still installing.
[00:26] <ascent> No X for server installs is fine for me tough.
[00:27] <mynous> well it doesnt seem to have helped much, rtorrent uploads hitting 5mb stop the transfer, when the ftp client reconnects the upload rates drop off for rtorrent
[00:29] <jhouse_> My bigger concern is that it failed to detect my network connection and then dumped me to the command line when I booted up.
[00:30] <mynous> well setting autoneg on set it to halfduplex :(
[00:30] <jhouse_> I have a wifi card and no ethernet connection.
[00:30] <ascent> mynous: okay, that may be why it needs autoneg off in your case.
[00:31] <mynous> yeah
[00:32] <mynous> what is PHYAD: 1  in ethtool?
[00:34] <ascent> not sure. what does the manual say?
[00:35] <mynous> phyad N
[00:35] <mynous>               PHY address.
[00:35] <mynous> not much
[00:36] <ascent> hurray :)
[00:36] <ascent> dunno, sorry :)
[00:36] <mynous> lol
[00:38] <ascent> How much overhead would a crypted FS give, I wonder..
[00:41] <ascent> Off to bed now, later!
[00:43] <jhouse_> Trying to reinstall now...  At the start of the install, I see two errors/warnings.  One is that it's ingoring an aperature beyond 4G and the other is something about USB on port 1.  Would any cause me significant trouble?  I'm thinking maybe the aperature error would be why I don't have a graphical install?
[00:44] <mynous> using ifconfig i get a listing that says collisions:29975, i recon this is bad but im not sure how to fix it
[01:14] <DrSmall> Greetings
[01:28] <arrrghhh> why is my new drive not showing up in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -alh?  i can't mount it in fstab with uuid since it's not listed there.
[01:42] <hads> I've seen them not show up there stright after partitioning occasionally.
[03:20] <timreichhart> anybody in this chat room here?
[03:20] <Ahmuck> hi.  i'd like to buy one drive and use it in a degraded array and buy the second one 2 weeks later.  does ubuntu server have raid1 software that will allow this?
[03:21] <timreichhart> can anybody help me to confg my modem on my server 8.04 i am using Agere Systems LT WinModem
[03:23] <arrrghhh> so i don't get it.  how do i add a partition to /dev/disk/by-uuid?
[03:23] <arrrghhh> i used cfdisk and i can find the uuid by using vol_id, but i can't find the uuid in /dev/disk, and i can't mount with uuid when there's no entry for it there.
[03:30] <hads> There's likely a way to make them show up by restarting something. They should do after a reboot to. You could also be evil and link them manually
[03:32] <timreichhart> can anybody help me to confg my modem on my server 8.04 i am using Agere Systems LT WinModem
[03:52] <Ahmuck> hwo does manual partitioning work with LVM
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> Ahmuck: Basically, you set up LVM first, and then go through the regular partitioning after that using the logical volumes you created.
[04:18] <Ahmuck> tonyyarusso: thx
[07:13] <HellMind> How is called the pkg that works like network manager on ubuntu server 8.10?
[08:41] <Illusion> hello folks
[08:42] <Illusion> Can somebody please help me to get pxeboot(netboot) working on a server. I want to run Kubuntu Live on client without a hard drive
[08:49] <Illusion> Starting rpc mountd...                                                [fail]
[08:51] <centaur5> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall worked fine for me when I did it.
[08:52] <Illusion> did you choose the option in the setup install LTS server?
[08:53] <centaur5> No, but that should work just as easily. My only problem with LTSP was an incompatibility with a video card I was trying to use and had to find a different one.
[08:54] <Illusion> problem i have currenly is that clients boot up in a initram shell or smt
[08:55] <Illusion> btw by installing LTSP my dhcp is down
[08:56] <centaur5> That's what was happening to me until I changed my video card and I was getting an error message in .xsession-errors
[08:56] <Illusion> hmmz why is dhcp3 down :S
[08:57] <Illusion> on the server i mean
[08:57] <Illusion> i can start or stop it
[08:57] <Illusion> *can
[08:57] <Illusion> t
[08:58] <Illusion> doesnt make sense to me to change the videocard on the server
[08:59] <centaur5> My problem was video card on the thin client.
[09:00] <centaur5> Check /var/log/syslog to see if there are errors with your DHCP configuration.
[09:00] <Illusion> sec
[09:01] <Illusion> another weird thing then
[09:01] <Illusion> it's 10 am here
[09:01] <Illusion> and logs unit 8am
[09:01] <Illusion> *until
[09:02] <Illusion>  * Starting DHCP server:                                                 [fail]
[09:02] <Illusion> invoke-rc.d: initscript dhcp3-server, action "force-reload" failed.
[09:02] <Illusion> thats in the shell
[09:03] <centaur5> Your dhcp conf file isn't right then.
[09:04] <Illusion> i can show ya, sec
[09:04] <Illusion> http://pastebin.com/m333d06be
[09:06] <Illusion> looking good to me as this config has been working before
[09:07] <Illusion> i think LSTP installed another DHCP server'
[09:07] <centaur5> I don't think you should have the next-server line if this is your LTSP server and also the filename line needs to be within the brackets under the dhcp range.
[09:09] <Illusion> still failing after your comment
[09:10] <Illusion> cant i just total erase the LSTP instalation?
[09:10] <centaur5> yes
[09:10] <Illusion> or dhcp reconfigure?
[09:14] <Illusion> i cant stop or start dhcp at all
[09:14] <Illusion> restart even
[09:15] <Illusion> dhcp3-server is the problem
[09:15] <Illusion> i think
[09:16] <centaur5> Make sure you have everything in order according to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server
[09:16] <ascent> Good morning everybody!
[09:17] <centaur5> I think it's time for me to say g'night  :)
[09:18] <Illusion> nn
[09:18] <Illusion> you leave me like this :P
[09:18] <Illusion> this is the problem:
[09:18] <Illusion> ./etc/default/dhcp3-server
[09:19] <centaur5> Sorry, it's 2:20 a.m. here and I'm falling asleep.
[09:19] <Illusion> and /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server
[09:19] <Illusion> it takes it from default wich is empty
[09:19] <Illusion> np centaur5
[09:20] <centaur5> Illusion: Good luck. I'll be in tomorrow but you'll probably find someone smarter to help you.
[09:22] <Illusion> BAH
[09:22] <Illusion> Segmentation fault
[09:22] <Illusion> lol
[09:22] <Illusion> nn centaur5
[09:22] <ascent> hehe
[09:23] <Illusion> he fecked my installation :P lol
[09:29] <Illusion> sudo dpkg-reconfigure ltsp-server-standalone - doesn't work either
[09:29] <Illusion> same as with dhcp3
[09:30] <Illusion> even installing dhcp will remove dhcp3 and ltsp-server-standalone
[09:30] <Illusion> but again i cant start any dhcp services
[09:30] <Illusion> :S
[09:34] <Illusion> Can somebody help me pls?
[09:36] <Illusion>  * Stopping DHCP server                                                                                [fail]
[09:36] <Illusion> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server V3.0.3
[09:36] <Illusion> Copyright 2004-2005 Internet Systems Consortium.
[09:36] <Illusion> All rights reserved.
[09:36] <Illusion> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[09:36] <Illusion>  * Starting DHCP server:                                                                                [fail]
[09:36] <Illusion> invoke-rc.d: initscript dhcp3-server, action "start" failed.
[09:37] <ascent> what's the actual error?
[09:37] <Illusion> no errors my logs are empty/not updated either
[09:38] <ascent> ok
[09:38] <Illusion> the configuartion is the same as before installing LSTP
[09:38] <Illusion> i think another DHCP service is running
[09:38] <Illusion> but i don't know which one
[09:39] <ascent> stop it :)
[09:39] <Illusion> lol
[09:39] <ascent> bad idea?
[09:39] <Illusion> what are the most common dhcp services for dhcp?
[09:39] <ascent> how do you mean?
[09:40] <Illusion> seems that there is dhcp and dhcp3
[09:40] <Illusion> wonder if there's more
[09:40] <ascent> Just stop the processes?
[09:40] <Illusion> i cant stop dhcp3
[09:40] <Illusion> cant start it either
[09:40] <Illusion> weird isnt it
[09:41] <Illusion> its installed tho
[09:43] <LoveGuru> Is there anyone Familiar with sql-ledger
[09:44] <Illusion> ascent its not my config
[09:44] <Illusion> i did # in all the lines
[09:45] <Illusion> and it still wont stop or start
[09:45] <ascent> illusion: will dhcp(d?) even start with an empty config?
[09:46] <Illusion> yes
[09:46] <Illusion> looks like it
[09:46] <Illusion> cause i get the same message over and over
[09:46] <Illusion> no matter what i do
[09:46] <Illusion>  * Stopping DHCP server                                                                                [fail]
[09:46] <Illusion> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server V3.0.3
[09:46] <Illusion> Copyright 2004-2005 Internet Systems Consortium.
[09:46] <Illusion> All rights reserved.
[09:46] <Illusion> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[09:46] <Illusion>  * Starting DHCP server:
[09:46] <Illusion> fail
[09:47] <Illusion> still wonder why my logs are empty
[09:47] <Illusion> date is 10:47 here and my logs go to 8am
[09:47] <Illusion> :S
[09:47] <Illusion> *time
[09:49] <Illusion> version 3 of dhcp-server is not the default server message
[09:52] <Illusion> thnx centaur5 :)
[09:53] <Illusion>  * Starting DHCP server:                                                                                [fail]
[09:53] <Illusion> invoke-rc.d: initscript dhcp3-server, action "start" failed.
[09:53] <Illusion> root@The-Hive-S1:~#
[09:54] <Illusion> ypbind[12491]: broadcast: RPC: Timed ou
[09:54] <Illusion> t
[09:59] <Illusion> this really annoyes me
[10:00] <ascent> ah, it's even a dutchy ;)
[10:00] <Illusion> lol
[10:01] <Illusion> i will start swearing if i need to reinstall the server
[10:01] <Illusion> then i wouldn't be pleased at all
[10:02] <ascent> Then dig into the problem instead of pasting the whole channel =)
[10:03] <Illusion> lol i am
[10:05] <ascent> okies.. good luck mate.
[10:05] <Illusion> hopefully i can fix it
[10:05] <Illusion> but it seems i have a problem here
[10:05] <Illusion> udp 0 0 *:bootps *:* - is not in netstat -uap
[10:06] <Illusion> Status of DHCP server: dhcpd3 is not running.
[10:24] <kraut> moin
[10:27] <ascent> mogge.
[10:33] <Illusion> ascent i have dhcp running again
[10:34]  * delcoyote hi
[10:34] <ascent> good job
[10:34] <Illusion> now i need to boot the ditsro
[10:36] <Illusion> cause my pxeboot boots in initramfs
[11:09] <foo> Hm, anyone in here interested in writing articles for pay? Looking for these categories: Linux servers, Linux on the Desktop, Multimedia and Linux, Linux Applications, Distro Reviews, Linux Security, Linux Programming, Misc Linux Articles, and Linux Installation articles. Not sure how to go about finding the right people, but I'm helping out this forum who is lookin' for some articles. Nothing demanding... feel free to PM me for more info. Thanks!
[11:16] <rhalff> hi do I need dbus on a server ?
[11:17] <rhalff> if I remove dbus and no critical packages are removed along with it, I probably don't need it right ?
[12:48] <m11> hello
[13:01] <rhalff> any of you using iscsitarget ?
[13:02] <rhalff> I get can't create a target 17
[13:23] <Tristan-B> hi
[13:23] <Tristan-B> I have just rebooted/shutdown my server for maintanence, and booting it back up, I am unable to ssh into the server
[13:24] <Tristan-B> it was just a reboot/shutdown, no real maintanence was done
[13:24] <Tristan-B> any idea
[13:25]  * Tristan-B glares
[13:59] <Tristan-B> hey how do I start ssh
[13:59] <Tristan-B> sshd
[14:00] <Tristan-B> answer someone
[14:00] <Tristan-B> whatever
[15:01] <billybigrigger> morning all
[15:02] <billybigrigger> is there a free version of landscape available? or maybe even an alternative that i can install? i just have a home server and don't really need to pay 150/year, so a free or alternate package would be nice
[15:05] <ScottK> What do you think you need it for?
[15:07] <billybigrigger> well i saw a screeny of it and it had nice graphs for stats and all that, and the new package notifications looked good, just wondering if there was a free alternative
[15:16] <ScottK> Probably not all in one package, but I'd expect most of it's functionality is in one or another package.
[15:22] <D4rkMist> whot is speak ????
[15:45] <mario_> Hi, is possible to use a logical volume in a guest system using kvm?
[15:47] <soren> Yes.
[15:47] <mario_> where can i find documentation about this?
[15:47] <soren> What do you need to know?
[15:47] <soren> You just use it like you would any other file or device.
[15:48] <mario_> id' like to use a logical volume in a guest system, recognized such as /dev/sda2
[15:48] <mario_> and let only that guest to access the lv
[15:49] <mario_> more clearly i'm setting up a virtulized file server
[15:49] <mario_> that have to serve file that are on a lv
[15:50] <soren> It wouldn't be known as /dev/sda2, but rather /dev/sdc
[15:50] <soren> ...or whatever.
[15:50] <soren> It's simple.
[15:50] <soren> kvm -hda /path/to/some/file.img
[15:50] <soren> that's the usual way
[15:50] <soren> ...if it's an lv:
[15:50] <soren> kvm -hda /dev/vg00/lv2
[15:50] <soren> No different.
[15:51] <mario_> yes you are right as /dev/sdc not as another partition, ok, is it possible to assign during the creation with vmbuilder?
[15:51] <soren> That's what the --raw option is for.
[15:51] <mario_> thank you!
[15:51] <soren> It works for me, but I've heard of people having problems with it..
[15:53] <Ahmuck> i've had problems with lvm and vm
[15:55] <mario_> mmm --raw is not in the man , how can i use it? what kind of problems?
[16:17] <mario_> can someone share his experience with lvm and kvm?
[16:20] <MontyMars> hello?
[16:21] <nijaba> mario_: use "sudo vmbuilder kvm ubuntu --help" to view all options
[16:22] <mario_> thank you
[16:22] <MontyMars> can anyone help me set up extra users for samba?
[16:26] <mario_> nijaba, --raw is used to set the first disk image?what does it means?
[16:29] <nijaba> mario_: hmm, the text look wrong.  should read: "Specify the path to a raw file or device to install in.  Can be specified multiple  time  in  con‐
[16:29] <nijaba>               junction with --part, paths will be used in the order presented. Make sure that the raw element(s)
[16:29] <nijaba>               specified have enough free space."
[16:31] <mario_> ok so i have to create n raw device and n elements in the partition file
[16:31] <mario_> is right?
[16:32] <nijaba> mario_: not exactly. one --raw per "disk", a disk can have multiple partitions in --part
[16:33] <mario_> nijaba, ok thank you again
[16:33] <nijaba> np
[16:58] <mario_> what is the function of /srv ?
[17:00] <soren> mario_: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVICESPROVIDEDBYSYSTEM
[17:07] <hikenboot> hello all--does the open-iscsi package provide an alternative iscsi target or initiator or both when compaired with the other two packages availabe
[17:07] <hikenboot> s/availabe /available
[17:09] <soren> It's an iscsi initiator.
[17:09] <soren> I don't know what you mean by alternative.
[17:48] <mario_> How can i force vmbuilder to create the system into an already existing file?
[17:54] <hikenboot> can anyone explain where the man page is for iscsitarget? man iscsitarget man iscsi-target man iscsi nothing comes up!
[18:00] <ScottK> hikenboot: You can search for it here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/
[20:24] <mstirner> hello, i think i've just locked myself out of my vserver by changing the username; its "not in sudoers" now so cannot get root


[00:03] <cjwatson> infinity: ^- could you do the honours?
[00:03] <cjwatson> infinity: (When you get a chance.  That does the lts-saucy bit.)
[00:26] <robru> cjwatson, infinity : poke about hud being blocked in -proposed. I don't understand the excuses page there, need some help / guidance
[00:29] <stgraber> robru: the build regressed on 3 architectures
[00:29] <robru> stgraber, well i doubt we care about the two ppc variants, but I'm unsure about arm64 (unsure how to fix it)
[00:30] <stgraber> robru: well, all of them used to build, so britney won't let the package migrated until they build again (or are properly dropped)
[00:31] <robru> stgraber, ok, thanks. i'm not very familiar with hud so I guess I'll punt this back to upstream
[00:31] <stgraber> technically they're not failing to build, they're missing a build-depend: unity-voice-service
[00:32] <cjwatson> Right, you don't have to build on all architectures if you never did, but you don't get to regress.
[00:33] <cjwatson> Hm, what's going on here
[00:33] <stgraber> hmm, apparently unity-voice-service exists now
[00:33] <cjwatson> OK, this isn't your or upstream's problem, it's just a component mismatch
[00:33] <robru> cjwatson, oh, can you fix it?
[00:33] <stgraber> ah yeah, just spotted it, I guess hud is in main, unity-voice is in universe
[00:33] <cjwatson> robru: looking
[00:33] <robru> cjwatson, thanks
[00:33] <cjwatson> just checking the MIR status and such
[00:34] <cjwatson> looks fine, promoting
[00:34] <robru> cjwatson, excellent, thanks
[00:34] <cjwatson> hud should auto-retry in an hour or two
[00:35] <stgraber> I'm just confused as to how the other architectures managed to build, did unity-voice-service somehow got demoted at the middle of the build?
[00:35] <cjwatson> publisher cycle plus hourly recheck-all-depwaits
[00:35] <cjwatson> stgraber: PPA
[00:35] <cjwatson> unity-voice would've been in the unity PPA and PPAs don't do components
[00:35] <stgraber> cjwatson: oh, yeah, forgot about that, naively assumed this was a good old standard upload :)
[00:35] <cjwatson> but they also don't do arm64/powerpc/ppc64el
[00:35] <cjwatson> (or at least this one doesn't)
[00:36] <robru> stgraber, yeah, i don't have upload rights, so if you ever hear from me in this channel it's bout something I pushed through the unity ppa with jenkins ;-)
[05:30] <ScottK> PPAs can be made to check components.  Seems like this would be a good candidate for it.
[07:37] <robru> cjwatson, hmmm, seems hud is still blocked. excuses page hasn't changed.
[08:55] <apw> robru, the builds look to have retried and now further wait on gsettings-qt which is in universe also
[09:03] <apw> robru, and it also has a dep on libdee-qt5-dev (source dee-qt) which is also in universe
[09:04] <apw> robru, which will make it fail once the first one is fixed
[10:37] <cjwatson> robru: Right, there are missing MIRs for dee-qt and gsettings-qt.  I can't promote those without MIRs.
[10:38] <Laney> ScottK: True
[10:40] <Laney> didrocks: ^ do you know if there's a reason the daily release PPA(s) doesn't build with that option?
[10:42] <didrocks> Laney: which option, only main? we have main and universe content in the ppa. People are normally running check-mir when they ack packaging changes
[10:42] <cjwatson> perhaps it would be worth finding out why that didn't happen in this case
[10:42] <didrocks> cjwatson: human error?
[10:43] <didrocks> I'll rehash the advice
[10:45] <cjwatson> fair enough except everyone else who commits human error tends to be asked by touch people to investigate :P
[10:46] <Laney> I guess people would be reluctant to promote to satisfy build-depends in a PPA
[10:46] <cjwatson> Maybe, we'd need to extend component-mismatches to support it, probably
[10:46] <didrocks> cjwatson: so, you want that I checked the logs and find the guilty guy? I thought you didn't like blame war
[10:49] <cjwatson> No, I don't; there's a difference between being able to give targeted advice to the right person (as opposed to general advice to everyone), and blaming them
[10:50] <cjwatson> "Hey - we noticed this problem.  Could you remember to use check-mir next time, which could help avoid this?"  or something
[10:50] <cjwatson> I'd also be fine with touch people not asking other people to trace through root causes so much, but it should be symmetric ;-)
[10:50] <didrocks> cjwatson: well, this is what I meant by rehashing the advice :)
[10:51] <cjwatson> OK, if you mean rehashing it to the person who forgot rather than by broadcast, sure
[10:52] <cjwatson> Anyway, hopefully no great harm done, it'll just stall hud until it's fixed
[10:53] <cjwatson> I see my breakage from yesterday is back to green now
[10:53] <didrocks> yeah, nice work! we are thinking about promoting the current image btw
[11:20] <Laney> slangasek: Did you get anywhere with finding a checklist person for A2?
[12:44] <xnox> didrocks: there is a tickbox of "build packages with all components, vs build with the same components as in the ubuntu archive" such that e.g. hud would be build with main only in the ppa, but universe stuff would be build with universe enabled.
[12:45] <didrocks> xnox: oh really? let me look
[12:46] <xnox> didrocks: sounds like that option needs enabling across all PPAs that eventually land in the archive, e.g. all non-virtualised ppas.
[12:46] <cjwatson> are you sure that the "universe stuff" wouldn't actually be considered as main within the PPA?
[12:46] <xnox> cjwatson: since the ppa itself publishes into main only? right....
[12:46] <cjwatson> or indeed that it wouldn't cause problems for builds of packages not yet in Ubuntu in that PPA, which are intended for universe?
[12:46] <didrocks> yeah, so if you have a build-dep published in the ppa, that can be a trouble
[12:46] <cjwatson> I'm just not sure that the cure wouldn't be worse than the disease here
[12:47] <xnox> cjwatson: didrocks: yeah, if the depwait in the ppa, no ppa options would help, as was the case here with hud =)
[12:47] <xnox> =(
[15:57] <slangasek> Laney: I did not get anywhere because I failed at asking
[15:57] <slangasek> ScottK, Riddell: are either of you interested in driving alpha 2 this time around?
[15:57] <sergiusens> didrocks, can you review goget-ubuntu-touch on the new queue for me please?
[15:57] <ScottK> No time.  Sorry.
[15:58] <didrocks> sergiusens: not really today. Is that in the new queue, not dailies?
[15:59] <sergiusens> didrocks, -queuebot/#ubuntu-release- New source: golang-goget-ubuntu-touch (trusty-proposed/primary) [0.1-0ubuntu1]
[15:59] <Riddell> slangasek: what's the dates?
[15:59] <slangasek> Riddell: Jan 23: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseTaskSignup
[15:59] <didrocks> sergiusens: hum, I think it should be in the daily release process. Mind moving it to it?
[15:59] <didrocks> sergiusens: that enables us to preNEW and so on :)
[15:59] <sergiusens> didrocks, I would want it added to daily release (together with usensord), the upstream merger part is just now only capable of doing it's thing
[16:00] <didrocks> sergiusens: anyway, I will review it, but not before tomorrow
[16:00] <Riddell> slangasek: yeah I could do that, I'll add my name
[16:00] <slangasek> Riddell: cheers :)
[16:00] <Laney> Riddell: merci
[16:32] <sergiusens> didrocks, ty
[16:32] <didrocks> yw!
[19:21] <cjwatson> Riddell: ^- Did you mean to upload that PPA version to Ubuntu proper?
[19:23] <Riddell> doh
[19:23] <Riddell> nope, well caught
[19:23]  * Riddell rejects
[19:24] <Riddell> time to call it a day if I'm doing that
[22:42] <bladernr_> anyone around?  Can someone confirm that for Trusty, the final beta on Mar 27 is the likely release version assuming no major bugs?
[22:43] <bladernr_> IOW, the final beta released then should not see any real changes other than critical bug fixes discovered between final beta freeze and final freeze
[22:43] <knome> that's the *goal*, but nobody can promise that
[22:44] <bladernr_> yeah, I know it's always fluid, but at I just wanted to be sure i was correct in thinking that is how it "should" work in a perfect world
[22:44] <bladernr_> thanks knome
[22:44] <knome> yes, ideally that


[00:22] <drab> sarnold: I think I actually figured out a few ways of doing it that are cleaner, but none of the is exactly straightforward
[00:22] <drab> the simplest and not that hard is to use squid with eCAP/ICAP
[00:23] <drab> squid running on the gw I mean
[00:23] <drab> but at that point that squid does nothing more than taking the request and passing it on with a protocol that include all the necessary info, including src ip
[00:23] <drab> and you can cluster that easily
[00:23] <drab> and cluster the actual content filtering by having multiple backends
[00:24] <drab> the other option seems to run the gw behind something like LVS, but I'm not sure how that'd work
[00:24] <sarnold> man the icap website makes even less sense than the ecap website :)
[00:24] <drab> lol, tell me about it...
[00:25] <drab> it was quite surprising to figure out the state of both, yuo'd think they would be fairly "standard", but it seems in OSS land there's little to nothing
[00:25] <drab> even tho all commercial implementations work on that basis
[00:25] <drab> generally speaking the OSS CF ecosystem is pretty weak, it
[00:25] <drab> 's even hard to find which options you have
[00:26] <drab> the only easily googlable thing is dansguardian, which is deadware
[00:26] <drab> I found its fork, e2guardian, almost by accident (great project, active devel)
[01:27] <station> is there an easy way to keep overview over user access management Samba NFS …..
[01:29] <station> nad usermanagement in generale
[06:21] <android> !kernel
[07:53] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:23] <jambo> anyone here? need some help
[10:04] <zioproto> hello, I do I add the tags? https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/1559072
[10:05] <zioproto> verification-done ?
[10:06] <zioproto> ok I think I have done it
[13:29] <rbasak> ahasenack: thought I'd look at some of your pending MPs.
[13:29] <ahasenack> thx
[13:29] <ahasenack> rbasak: did you sync cyrus-sasl2?
[13:29] <rbasak> ahasenack: is everything you have in https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-server/+activereviews pending review/upload?
[13:29] <ahasenack> I saw it's up-to-date now
[13:30] <rbasak> I did fire off cyrus-sasl2 last night.  Didn't see if it finished.
[13:30] <rbasak> I guess it's done then :)
[13:30] <ahasenack> it worked, thx
[13:30] <ahasenack> regarding the mps
[13:30] <ahasenack> there are some nish grabbed that don't show up there anymore
[13:31] <rbasak> Can you see what happens if you explicitly request an additional review from ~canonical-server in those MPs now?
[13:31] <ahasenack> they should come back to the list
[13:31] <ahasenack> let me see
[13:31] <rbasak> OK. I'll start with your squid3 SRUs now.
[13:31] <ahasenack> ok
[13:35] <ahasenack> rbasak: this one, for example: https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/libpam-ccreds/+git/libpam-ccreds/+merge/327829
[13:35] <ahasenack> rbasak: going to ask for another review now
[13:35] <ahasenack> rbasak: done, and now it's in the https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-server/+activereviews list
[13:35] <ahasenack> rbasak: going to do the same to the others
[13:35] <ahasenack> I think that's all
[13:35] <rbasak> OK. Thanks!
[13:36] <ahasenack> rbasak: I'm adding test cases to all my MPs now, not just the bug
[13:36] <ahasenack> rbasak: in the squid one, since the MP is older, I only added the test cases to the bug
[13:36] <ahasenack> to form the sru template
[13:37] <rbasak> Why are you adding test cases to the MPs?
[13:37] <ahasenack> to help reviewers, in the case it's just an artful upload for example, and not an sru
[13:38] <rbasak> I see, OK.
[14:18] <rbasak> ahasenack: sorry about the wasted work for Yakkety because of review delay.
[14:18] <ahasenack> it's experience :)
[14:18] <rbasak> ahasenack: https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/squid3/+git/squid3/+merge/326860 looks good to upload, thanks! Let me know if you'd like to take my suggestions or not, and I'll sponsor that now.
[14:18] <ahasenack> let me check
[14:22] <ahasenack> hm, I have this in my .quiltrc
[14:22] <ahasenack> QUILT_DIFF_ARGS="--no-timestamps --no-index -pab"
[14:22] <ahasenack> QUILT_REFRESH_ARGS="--no-timestamps --no-index -pab"
[14:22] <ahasenack> maybe I added the patch manually
[14:22] <rbasak> Yeah that could be it.
[14:23] <rbasak> In that case one quilt refresh after you add it would normalise the patch. I don't usually suggest quilt refreshes, but when adding a patch for the first time it makes sense :)
[14:24] <ahasenack> rbasak: I see
[14:24] <ahasenack> that's fine
[14:24] <ahasenack> rbasak: about the other change, DEP3, since now it's a backport
[14:24] <ahasenack> rbasak: should we remove my comment about having had to fix a conflict?
[14:25] <rbasak> I don't mind if it's there or not. It's certainly more informative than the metadata on its own, and I appreciate that.
[14:25] <ahasenack> ok then
[14:25] <rbasak> Your choice :)
[14:25] <ahasenack> I got the opposite comment from nish in another mp :)
[14:25] <rbasak> Hmm.
[14:25] <ahasenack> just checking :)
[14:25] <rbasak> I guess that'll always happen to some extent :-/
[14:26] <ahasenack> it's fine
[14:26] <ahasenack> rbasak: so I pull your changes in and push again?
[14:26] <ahasenack> or you upload your branch? What's the usual?
[14:26] <rbasak> No need. I can just upload my branch and tag i t.
[14:26] <ahasenack> please do then, thanks
[14:26] <rbasak> ack
[14:38] <rbasak> ahasenack: same quilt -pab thing in https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+git/rsyslog/+merge/327718. I can just fix up as I upload if you wish?
[14:39] <ahasenack> yes please
[14:39] <rbasak> OK
[14:40] <ahasenack> rbasak: so even when taking the patch as-is from upstream, we prefer that refresh?
[14:40] <ahasenack> I don't recall if this was the case here
[14:40] <ahasenack> just wondering in general
[14:41] <rbasak> That's a fair question.
[14:42] <rbasak> I prefer it as I don't see any downsides. But other opinions welcome.
[14:42] <ahasenack> ok
[14:46] <rbasak> ahasenack: I usually try to credit everyone, so when cherry-picking from git, grabbing the commit author into an Author or From dep3 header is usually trivial.
[14:46] <ahasenack> rbasak: sometimes there are so many authors
[14:47] <ahasenack> someone sends a patch to a list (author1), then someone else commits with a slight change (author2), and a distribution grabs it for an older version and fixes conflicts (author3)
[14:47] <rbasak> Multiple Author fields are permitted in dep3. But upstream need to pick one for the git commit, so we might as well copy that one at a minimum. That needs little thought.
[14:52] <Guma> I am trying to setup "hosting" of my own deb package on my own ubuntu server 16.04 so I can add my server other machines to be able to install them with apt-get. I will do x64 and arm packages.
[14:53] <Guma> Can someone point me to some info/online doc to read what and how it needs to be setup on my server.
[14:53] <rbasak> ahasenack: can you check you're happy with https://code.launchpad.net/~racb/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+git/rsyslog/+ref/artful-rsyslog-permitnonkernelfacility-1703987 please?
[14:53] <Guma> Thank you
[14:53] <ahasenack> rbasak: checking
[14:53] <rbasak> Guma: look up "reprepro"
[14:54] <ahasenack> patch refresh ok,
[14:54] <ahasenack> checking dep3
[14:54] <Guma> rbasak: Thank you for quick reply :)(
[14:55] <rbasak> Guma: you're welcome. "apt-ftparchive" is quicker, but I'm not sure it can do repositories that support multiple architectures.
[14:56] <ahasenack> rbasak: good thing on the Author, the git commit didn't credit him specifically
[14:57] <ahasenack> how did you find his email?
[14:57] <ahasenack> Trent's
[14:57] <rbasak> ahasenack: this is a hidden Github feature.
[14:57] <rbasak> Start from https://github.com/PascalWithopf/rsyslog/commit/5c35619385bbe50979fa417e6f1b14df531b2a4a which you have.
[14:57] <ahasenack> aha
[14:57] <rbasak> Append .patch
[14:58] <rbasak> https://github.com/PascalWithopf/rsyslog/commit/5c35619385bbe50979fa417e6f1b14df531b2a4a.patch
[14:58] <ahasenack> there you go
[14:58] <rbasak> If you look that up, you see the "git format-patch" output.
[14:58] <rbasak> Very useful for cherry-picking etc.
[14:58] <ahasenack> indeed
[15:00] <ahasenack> rbasak: so +1 for your changes, thanks
[15:00] <rbasak> ack
[15:04] <Guma> rbasak: but reprepro does supports multiple arch?
[15:05] <rbasak> Guma: IIRC, yes. But I could be wrong - please double check.
[15:11] <drab> anybody familiar with openssl and knows what this error is about: http://dpaste.com/1J452JM
[15:12] <drab> this is the pvt key for a local CA. I did not create it and someone else passed it to me
[15:12] <drab> the password seems to be right because if I write something random I get an error about decrypt failed
[15:12] <drab> digital envelope routines:EVP_DecryptFinal_ex:bad decrypt:evp_enc.c:529:
[15:13] <ahasenack> drab: what command did you use? Maybe the file is in a different format
[15:13] <drab> the last two lines about PKCS12 and PEM are the same tho
[15:14] <drab> ahasenack: I was trying t ouse it with e2guardian, which is when I realized I had a problem. right now I'm simply doing: openssl rsa -inform pem -in cakey.pem -check
[15:14] <drab> or with -text -noout
[15:14] <drab> just to test that I can read the key
[15:15] <drab> I don't know how the key was created and that person is now on vacation for 3 weeks...
[15:43] <ahasenack> drab: sorry, was in a meeting
[15:43] <ahasenack> drab: so just checking, cakey.pem has ascii content, and a header like BEGIN STUFF HERE and below it a line saying it's encrypted?/
[15:44] <ahasenack> and for the love of God, don't paste its contents :)
[15:44] <drab> np, in the meantime I think I found out how the key was created : openssl genrsa -des3 4096 > key.pem
[15:44] <drab> ahasenack: :)
[15:44] <drab> yeah it's ascii so it's pem, not der
[15:44] <ahasenack> the pkcs12 output was weird
[15:45] <drab> -----BEGIN ENCRYPTED PRIVATE KEY----- etc
[15:45] <ahasenack> have you tried "openssl pkcs12" commands?
[15:45] <drab> I have, couldn't get that to work, but I've never used those before so I might be doing something wrong
[15:45] <drab> will try again
[15:46] <ahasenack> iirc pkcs12 has an export password, different than the encryption key
[15:50] <drab> ahasenack: doesn't matter what pkcs12 cmd I try I get the same format/encoding errors
[15:51] <drab> per above key was created with openssl genrsa -des3 4096 if that means anything to you
[15:51] <drab> there doesn't seem to be anything strange in the gen process
[15:53] <ahasenack> if you create another one like that, can you read it back with openssl rsa?
[15:53] <drab> good question, trying
[15:55] <drab> ahasenack: yep it works
[15:55] <drab> interestingly enough if I typo the password the first two lines of the errors are about the decrypt
[15:55] <ahasenack> but the file genrsa produced in your test looks just like the cakey.pem one you have? Same headers?
[15:55] <drab> but there's no second two sets of line about format errors
[15:56] <ahasenack> yeah, so I think it's decrypting the key, and then trying to parse it
[15:56] <ahasenack> and it encounters an unexpected structure when trying to parse it
[15:57] <drab> oh, you're right, no, it's not the same, it's missing two lines after the ----- ... Proc-Type: 4,ENCRYPTED \n DEK-Info: DES-EDE3-CBC,1D80xxxxxxxx
[15:58] <drab> I wonder what that number after DEK-Info is and how do I get it/if it's diff per key
[15:58]  * drab tries to gen another key
[15:58] <drab> yep, diff number, so can't copy it over, looks like some kind of hash
[15:59] <drab> I don't get how those lines are missing from the key, I doubt the guy edited them out, it makes no sense
[15:59] <drab> and also he used that key to gen the CA which works fine... mystery
[16:01] <drab> the header is actually also diff, the one I just regenerated reads "-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----" and then has that metadata above
[16:03] <drab> the one I have that's not working says -----BEGIN ENCRYPTED PRIVATE KEY-----
[16:04] <ahasenack> so cakey.pem does not have this under the header?
[16:04] <ahasenack> Proc-Type: 4,ENCRYPTED
[16:04] <ahasenack> DEK-Info: DES-EDE3-CBC,DE3423A9DC4700D0
[16:04] <ahasenack> (random key I just created)
[16:04] <ahasenack> if you just have
[16:04] <ahasenack> -----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----
[16:04] <ahasenack> and then a blob
[16:04] <ahasenack> then it's not encrypted
[16:04] <ahasenack> ah, yours is BEGIN ENCRYPTED ...
[16:04] <ahasenack> interesting
[16:05] <ahasenack> it's a different header
[16:05] <drab> yeah
[16:06] <drab> I googled around a bit earlier and fgound this: https://wiki.openssl.org/index.php/Manual:Rsa(1)
[16:06] <drab> wrong one
[16:06] <drab> I found a link that had that header BEGIN ENCRYPTED
[16:07] <drab> https://serverpilot.io/community/articles/how-to-fix-an-encrypted-ssl-private-key.html
[16:07] <drab> which seems to suggest both are accepted formats
[16:07] <ahasenack> drab: it could be pkcs8
[16:07] <ahasenack> I just managed to convert a cakey.pem to pkcs8
[16:07] <ahasenack> and it has the -----BEGIN ENCRYPTED PRIVATE KEY----- header
[16:07] <ahasenack> drab: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25170678/ try to reverse that then
[16:07] <ahasenack> man pkcs8
[16:07] <ahasenack> sorry, another meeting :)
[16:08] <ahasenack> could depend on openssl version
[16:10] <ahasenack> drab: I can read that cakey.p8 file I created with openssl rsa -in
[16:10] <ahasenack> drab: but I have to provide the password that was given when it was converted to pkcs8
[16:10] <ahasenack> not the password given when it was created with openssl genrsa
[16:10] <drab> k, thanks for your help, will keep prodding
[16:10] <ahasenack> if I give the original genrsa password, I get an error output like yours
[16:11] <ahasenack> so you need the new pkcs8 password
[16:11] <ahasenack> that's my take
[16:25] <drab> that makes sense, however if I try to decrypt with pkcs8 I think I can see I have the right pwd and still getting the error
[16:25] <drab> openssl pkcs8 -in cakey.pem -inform pem
[16:25] <drab> agreed that the output looks in pkcs8 as it matches the man page
[16:26] <drab> if I give the wrong pwd I get a decrypt error, if I use the one I think is right, I once again get the format error
[16:26] <drab> so I'm not sure why the pwd would be wrong
[16:26] <drab> but it may be, trying to get hold of the guy to confirm...
[16:46] <drab> ahasenack: http://dpaste.com/2R68MW1
[16:46] <drab> notice how the errors in the case of "right password" are the same, pkcs8 or rsa
[16:50] <drab> if I try from the beginning, gen'ing a new pem key, then converting to pkcs8 I can't repro the problem
[16:50] <drab> if I give the wrong password I get the decrypt error
[16:51] <drab> if I give the right one, even with openssl rsa -in test.p8 -check , it works
[16:51] <drab> test.p8 being the -----BEGIN ENCRYPTED...
[16:51] <drab> which is what my non working key looks like
[16:52] <drab> so I can't repro a case where I don't get the decrypt error, meaning pwd seems correct, but the key still cannot be read
[16:54] <drab> something is corrupted or different about this file... I've just tried gen'ing a few pems and p8s and they are all of them same lenght (according to wc -l)
[16:54] <drab> my non woring key has more lines
[16:54] <drab> which I can't explain
[16:55] <drab> but might be a redherring
[17:01] <tomreyn> doesn't GNU file tell what file format it is? maybe it's actually pkcs #5 or #12 encrypted
[17:03] <drab> tomreyn: cakey.pem: ASCII text :)
[17:03] <tomreyn> https://www.cryptopp.com/wiki/Keys_and_Formats#Dumping_PKCS_.238_and_X.509_Keys
[17:04] <drab> for the pkcs8 files, for the pem straight from genrsa it says PEM RSA private key
[17:08] <drab> mmmh, dumpasn1 breaks, Error: IA5String contains illegal character(s) etc, 4 errors
[17:08] <drab> but these are test keys I just gen'ed
[17:08] <drab> and that I can read just fine
[17:09] <drab> so for whatever reason doesn't seem reliable to use to test, unless I'm misusing it somehow
[17:13] <tomreyn> hmm i lack experience myself there, sorry for the bad pointer then.
[17:14] <tomreyn> asn1 == death
[17:18] <drab> no worries, appreciate chipping in, at this point I'm just throwing pieces of the puzzle on the table to see if anything catches the eye
[17:24] <tomreyn> maybe sum it up on a pastebin and try asking in ##crypto - they can be resourceful even if it's a bit OT (as it would be here)
[17:25] <drab> thanks for the tip, might do that
[17:27] <tomreyn> there is also openssl asn1parse
[17:33] <hdon> hi all :) is logrotate responsible for rotating /var/log/syslog?
[17:43] <ahasenack> drab: I wonder if that's a text file generated by windows perhaps? Check the line ending with "cat -vet cakey.pem"
[18:22] <sdeziel> hdon: yes, more specifically /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog is the config snippet managing /var/log/syslog
[18:27] <hdon> thanks sdeziel
[18:28] <ice9> does ubuntu allows root login through ssh by default?
[18:30] <sarnold> no
[18:31] <sarnold> ubuntu by default makes the root account very difficult to use, but sudo is very easy
[18:31] <ice9> sarnold, are you familiar with ansible, chef etc..?
[18:32] <Pici> By default it allows it, but not by password authentication.
[18:32] <ice9> great, i have added ssh key to root but i'm unable to ssh
[18:32] <sarnold> ice9: not really
[18:33] <Pici> I'd just verify that /etc/ssh/sshd_config has PermitRootLogin set to prohibit-password
[18:36] <ice9> Pici, actually the it's set to 'yes'
[18:37] <Pici> ice9: in older releases that was the default. Since Ubuntu has a locked password for root by default, its pretty much the same thing as prohibit-password... as long as key based auth is enabled, which it is by default.
[18:37] <ice9> anyway i'm still unable to ssh with key for the root
[18:38] <sarnold> check logs on client and server?
[18:38] <sarnold> keep adding -v to the ssh command until it spits out something useful? :)
[20:00] <thebwt> may not have a shell set either. Ubuntu really locks it down.
[20:10] <tomreyn> or AllowUsers
[20:46] <RoyK> icey: probably wrong permissions for /root/.ssh/authorized_keys
[20:54] <BugeyeD> hi all. looking for a virtualization box ... ubuntu+zfs+docker+kvm+lxd ... can anyone recommend something with similar form factor to the freenas-mini? as in, you've used it and it works well?
[21:01] <RoyK> BugeyeD: freenas is based on freebsd, not linux
[21:02] <BugeyeD> RoyK: ya think?
[21:02] <BugeyeD> i'm asking about harware
[21:02] <BugeyeD> hardware, even
[21:08] <RoyK> BugeyeD: no idea about the hardware
[21:09] <BugeyeD> mini-itx form factor, 4-8 hot-swap drives, IPMI for remote management, enough ram and cpu to do the requested (ubuntu+zfs+docker+kvm+lxd)
[21:10] <RoyK> should do
[21:11] <sarnold> poke around https://www.servethehome.com/ I think I've seenthem do reviews of cute little things before
[21:28] <hehehe> is sarnold a new dude here? the one who was asking how to install server with gui? :)
[21:28] <hehehe> hehe
[21:28] <hehehe> how are you ubuntu server people? :)
[22:17] <fluvvell> I boot /dev/md0, but just noticed - [_U] - an element missing, tried to re-add with    mdadm --manage --re-add /dev/sdb2 and it said    "... is not possible"   - given that its my boot drive, is it because it is mounted?
[22:18] <fluvvell> will I need to boot to a rescue and do it unmounted or is there something I'm missing (other than a drive!)
[22:19] <fluvvell> I always thought you could manage raid live, thing is, these fail so seldomly, I don't get lots of practice
[22:20] <tomreyn> no, it's not because it's mounted
[22:20] <tomreyn> it should work nevertheless
[22:20] <tomreyn> so it must be somethign else.
[22:20] <fluvvell> tomreyn, thoughts on what to look for?
[22:20] <fluvvell> smartctl reports it fine
[22:21] <tomreyn> is this a RAID-1?
[22:21] <hashwagon> What's the proper useradd line to create a system user?
[22:21] <tomreyn> hashwagon: adduser --system is the preferred approach on ubuntu, i think
[22:27] <tomreyn> fluvvell: does 'mdadm --detail /dev/md0' actually suggest that /dev/sdb2 is the device that's missing?
[22:27] <tomreyn> what's its state?
[22:28] <tomreyn> if you just 'mdadm -A /dev/md0', does that work?
[22:29] <fluvvell> Raid1
[22:32] <tomreyn> i mean 'mdadm -A --scan /dev/md0' (missed the --scan)
[22:33] <fluvvell> tomreyn, yes /dev/sdb2 is clean, not active
[22:33] <fluvvell> tomreyn, md0 is already in use
[22:34] <fluvvell> tomreyn,          State : clean, degraded
[22:34] <fluvvell>  Active Devices : 1
[22:34] <fluvvell> Working Devices : 1
[22:34] <fluvvell>  Failed Devices : 0
[22:34] <fluvvell>   Spare Devices : 0
[22:35] <fluvvell> tomreyn,    Raid Devices : 2
[22:35] <fluvvell>   Total Devices : 1
[22:36] <tomreyn> please use a pastebin
[22:36] <fluvvell> tomreyn, sure, just 4 lines - Ok 6, yeah sorry
[22:46] <fluvvell> tomreyn, any thoughts?
[22:57] <fluvvell> tomreyn, actually /dev/sdc2 is the missing device, sorry sdb2 is working, but it won't let me add /dev/sdc2   - my checking is accurate, I'm just reporting it to you backward
[22:58] <fluvvell> tomreyn, I just look stupid, I  try not to act that way.  mdadm: --re-add for /dev/sdc2 to /dev/md0 is not possible
[23:53] <arooni> question:  how come when i logged into my vps that i havent been to in awhile i had 86 packages to upgrade.  i thought i already set up unattended packages correctly
[23:55] <sarnold> arooni: I think the unattended-upgrades package just does packages from -security and not from -updates
[23:55] <sarnold> arooni: .. but I think that as packages are mirrored from -security to -updates that might mean that the unattended-upgrades doesn't notice them


[05:45] <nsnzero> morning all - have a good day
[05:45] <Maaz> nsnzero: By the way, superfly on freenode told me "tell nsnzero No, I haven't been to the grand canyon (yet)" 9 hours, 19 minutes and 8 seconds ago
[05:46] <superfly> hi nsnzero
[05:46] <superfly> Night all
[06:45] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:54] <magespawn> good morning
[06:59] <chesedo> morning nsnzero inetpro magespawn Kilos and all others
[07:12] <thatgraemeguy> morning peoples
[08:37] <theblazehen> Hi all
[08:56] <magespawn> hi theblazehen
[09:04] <inetpro> wb Kilos, and hi chesedo as well
[09:05] <chesedo> hi theblazehen
[09:36] <inetpro> oh and hi to the blaze hen as well of course
[09:37] <inetpro> thatgraemeguy: you are way too quiet these days, why?
[09:37] <thatgraemeguy> uhhhh
[09:38] <thatgraemeguy> I've always been way too quiet :p
[09:38] <inetpro> haha, you even believe yourself when you say that?
[10:23] <chesedo> agg, do not worry... the first step in rehabs is in admitting you have the said problem :P
[10:26] <jerit> I hate when download software doesn't work properly
[10:27] <chesedo> jerit: download software?
[10:27] <jerit> Free Download Manager for one
[10:28] <jerit> some of them allow you to schedule changes in download speed to save bandwidth, so I schedule "alternative" rates during the day when people are online and then let it go full out through the night, but this stupid thing decided better of removing the speed limit last night so my download made no progress whatsoever
[10:28] <chesedo> there is always uget, rat, wget, aria2, etc...
[10:29] <chesedo> oh
[10:32] <Kilos> ty inetpro  and hi everyone
[10:33] <jerit> hi Kilos
[10:34] <Kilos> hi jerit
[11:11] <Langjan> Hello all
[11:11] <Langjan> you ok Kilos ?
[11:11] <Kilos> hi Langjan  what broke now
[11:12] <Langjan> Hi there, you ok? Nothing
[11:12] <Kilos> yip im ok ty, still waiting for something to kick me
[11:12] <Kilos> tired only otherwise fine ty
[11:12] <Kilos> how about you?
[11:12] <Langjan> Just came to say were going to Pmburg for a week + for bowls
[11:12] <Langjan> Fine thks
[11:13] <Kilos> lekker, enjoy
[11:13] <Langjan> Sorry gotta go for some lunch
[11:13] <Kilos> go
[11:13] <Langjan> thks go well and keep kicking
[11:13] <Kilos> of course ty and you go fafe
[11:13] <Kilos> safe as well
[11:15] <nsnzero> how do i change the theme in emacs ?
[11:15] <nsnzero> hi Kilos
[11:15] <nsnzero> an Langjan
[11:15] <Kilos> hi nsnzero
[11:15] <Kilos> carefully
[11:16] <nsnzero> so far i pressed all the wrong buttons - but i am learning
[11:16] <Kilos> lol
[11:27] <Langjan> hi nsnzero
[12:06] <theblazehen> nsnzero: You running vanilla emacs?
[12:14] <nsnzero> yes theblazehen
[12:14] <nsnzero> stock standard but its got a funny pink theme to it - so i am editing it
[12:15] <nsnzero> the melpa repos do not work as well
[12:25] <nsnzero> i will have to sit with this later
[12:30] <nsnzero> have a good afternoon guys
[12:42] <theblazehen> https://linx.li/he9yfsu0.mkv Don't copy that floppy video encoded so that it _just_ fits on a 1.44 mb flopy (49 bytes spare). Really surprised at the quality. Can even read text that isn't moving
[14:28] <andrewlsd> just popped in to check.
[14:28]  * andrewlsd goes away again
[14:29] <magellanic> hi and bye andrewlsd
[15:50] <K_K_N> hi all
[15:51] <K_K_N> does anybody know where I can find the software for a nokia cs-19 internet stick?
[15:52] <K_K_N> according to the help guide it says insert the stick and then click the CD Drive Nokia and I should see nokiainternetmodem.deb but when I click there its empty?
[15:52] <K_K_N> it says No Media
[15:57] <K_K_N> the device is a Cell-C device if that helps
[15:58] <K_K_N> so not sure if the device is not mounting properly or maybe the contents is blocked by some settings or because its from CellC they maybe do not have the linux version for the software on the stick?
[16:00] <K_K_N> Kilos, sorry to read about what happen to you, you may have noticed I have not logged onto IRC for a very long time
[16:01] <K_K_N> only read it yesterday or was it the day before...
[16:01] <K_K_N> anyways sorry
[16:06] <superfly> K_K_N: you might need USB modeswitch
[16:12] <K_K_N> superfly, thanks, is that an application from the repository?
[16:32] <K_K_N> sorry got disconnected there
[16:33] <K_K_N> superfly, thanks but I have usb modeswitch installed already
[16:33] <K_K_N> but I have not used it
[16:34] <K_K_N> still a newbie when it comes to terminal commands etc.
[16:34] <nsnzero> hi K_K_N
[16:34] <nsnzero> what you trying to do ?
[16:36] <K_K_N> hi nsnzero
[16:38] <K_K_N> I want to install the Nokia CS-19 Internet Modem and according to their user guid when I plug the device in and access CD Drive Nokia I should see nokiainternetmodem.deb but for me its blank says no media not even the windows files are visible
[16:39] <nsnzero> oh yes - i had that problem with a usb dongle
[16:39] <nsnzero> if i can only remember what i did ...
[16:44] <nsnzero> the device is in the modem mode - linux should have picked it up - modeswitch will switch of the modem and activate the storage drive in the device
[16:44] <K_K_N> ok how do I do that?
[16:45] <nsnzero> plug the modem in and type lsusb , press enter and see if the the modem is listed
[16:45] <nsnzero> in the terminal / console
[16:46] <K_K_N> ok it shows up as Nokia Mobile Phone
[16:46] <nsnzero> you running ubuntu ?
[16:46] <K_K_N> yep
[16:50] <nsnzero> open networks on the top  panel - should be in the top right corner
[16:51] <nsnzero> i use neon plasma - on mine it on the bottom right corner
[16:52] <K_K_N> ok
[16:52] <nsnzero> if the device is listed there - you click it to activate it
[16:54] <K_K_N> ok but what about the software on the device how will I access that?
[17:00] <nsnzero> https://technomagus.wordpress.com/linux/3g/nokia-cs-19-3g-usb-modem-in-ubuntu/
[17:02] <K_K_N> thanks nsnzero I will look at that now, I searched the net yesterday entire day could not find info related to my specific device so thank you for that
[17:03] <nsnzero> no problem
[17:06] <nsnzero> evening Kilos
[17:06] <Kilos-> hi nsnzero superfly K_K_N
[17:06] <Kilos-> and inetpro
[17:06] <Kilos-> power just went oof
[17:06] <Kilos-> off
[17:09] <nsnzero> sorry Kilos
[17:09] <nsnzero> hi kulelu88
[17:10] <kulelu88> hi nsnzero
[17:10] <nsnzero> hows the programming going kulelu88 ?
[17:11] <kulelu88> not too bad nsnzero . hows things on your side?
[17:11] <nsnzero> havent done much kulelu88 - just didnt have the time
[17:12] <kulelu88> work keeping you busy?
[17:12] <nsnzero> work and home - not much time left to play
[17:12] <kulelu88> hows your son?
[17:13] <nsnzero> going to try and help a friend - learning to program the pic microcontroller tonight
[17:15] <nsnzero> he can walk now - hey they grow up so fast
[17:15] <kulelu88> time for number 2
[17:18] <nsnzero> lol - i not ready for another.... too soon
[17:25] <nsnzero> installed ubuntu 16.04 server i am sure i didnt set username and password - now its asking me for 1
[17:36] <superfly> nsnzero: if he can walk, it's time for #2!
[17:36] <superfly> :-P
[17:43] <kulelu88> nsnzero: you can start practicing for number 2 XD
[17:45] <kulelu88> superfly: any suggestions for doing this with some JS framework: I have 3 form-fields: Name, Surname, Age. Once the user enters that, they get a display of it back to them, now I want to export that display as a single HTML file
[17:50] <nsnzero> i am goig to wait until he starts to talk
[18:36] <andrewlsd> evening superfly nsnzero kulelu88
[18:36] <kulelu88> hey andrewlsd
[18:37] <nsnzero> hi andrewlsd
[18:37] <andrewlsd> thought I'd pop in to catch the night owls
[18:37] <andrewlsd> like kulelu88
[18:37] <kulelu88> night? it's daytime for superfly and chesedo
[18:38] <nsnzero> its a hoot this time of night
[18:38] <kulelu88> andrewlsd: we're trying to convince nsnzero that he needs to make more babies
[18:38]  * chesedo observes that he may not be where he thinks he is
[18:39] <kulelu88> i think I got it wrong :P who is the oke living in america (apart from fly)
[18:40] <andrewlsd> kulelu88: all by himself?
[18:40] <andrewlsd> pavlushka
[18:41] <andrewlsd> I think
[18:41] <kulelu88> i think it's Squirm or squish102
[18:41] <andrewlsd> yeah I know it's sunshine time in Arid_zona.
[18:42] <andrewlsd> hmm, that sounds like an alternative name for Cape Town
[18:43] <andrewlsd> kulelu88: take a peek at #ubuntu-us-az to see
[18:43] <kulelu88> they have state-level channels in murica? 0.o
[18:43] <andrewlsd> Maaz: tell pavlushka hi
[18:43] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Okay, I'll tell pavlushka on freenode
[18:44] <chesedo> pavlus is in asia...
[18:44] <kulelu88> chesedo: my good friend and lover of javascript :)
[18:44] <chesedo> kulelu88 is right though it is on of the sq's
[18:45] <chesedo> how goes kulelu88?
[18:45] <andrewlsd> superfly and pavlushka are in that channel, that's why I thought Pav resident there too
[18:45] <kulelu88> it's squish102
[18:45]  * chesedo currently might love cpp and go more
[18:46] <kulelu88> andrewlsd: your blonde beard is lovely
[18:46] <kulelu88> chesedo:  any suggestions for doing this with some JS framework: I have 3 form-fields: Name, Surname, Age. Once the user enters that, they get a display of it back to them, now I want to export that display as a single HTML file
[18:46] <andrewlsd> lol
[18:47] <andrewlsd> and my blue hair
[18:47] <chesedo> kulelu88: export?
[18:47] <andrewlsd> kulelu88: where did you see me?
[18:48] <kulelu88> chesedo: think of it like creating a form in an app and instead of "print to pdf" you "print to HTML"
[18:48] <kulelu88> andrewlsd: I see all things here at my NSA cubicle
[18:48] <chesedo> kulelu88: so this will be in an app (not on the web)?
[18:49] <andrewlsd> http://www.lsd.co.za/blogs
[18:49] <andrewlsd> thought that might have been where
[18:49] <kulelu88> chesedo: the app will run in a browser
[18:50] <chesedo> hmm, then the display back will already be in html...
[18:50] <chesedo> i guess you want the user to save this html?
[18:50] <chesedo> like a download link...
[18:51]  * andrewlsd goes now
[18:51]  * andrewlsd plans to return in the morning
[18:51] <kulelu88> yes, it must be self-contained. if you export the HTML and then click "open in browser" it should load as just HTML/CSS with no formatting issues
[18:51] <kulelu88> andrewlsd: XOXO
[18:52] <andrewlsd> :-D
[18:52] <chesedo> kulelu88: with offline support?
[18:53] <chesedo> meaning even when the user has no internet connection...
[18:53] <kulelu88> chesedo: no, the HTML just needs to open for browsing/viewing
[18:53] <chesedo> night andrewlsd
[18:55] <chesedo> kulelu88: i am getting the sense that you mean the html code?
[18:56] <chesedo> for inspection by the user...
[18:56] <kulelu88> chesedo: yes. Let me break it down in its simplest form. I have 3 form-fields. I enter name, surname, job description. the app then renders this back to the user. the user can then click on "edit" or "export as HTML file"
[18:59] <chesedo> kulelu88: either you want this -> http://prismjs.com
[19:00] <chesedo> or for the user to download the html you will need to serve the html to the user as normal, but will have to change one of the http header tags so that it presents the user with a download dialog...
[19:01] <kulelu88> I could create the form and render with jquery and show you?
[19:03] <chesedo> yes, but mostly seems that i am misunderstanding the meaning of export...
[19:03] <kulelu88> self-contained rendering of what the user sees in their browser
[19:03]  * chesedo might just be too tired... has been semi sick past few days...
[19:03] <kulelu88> just the user-data, not any buttons, etc.
[19:06]  * chesedo will wait for the preview
[19:06] <kulelu88> https://blogs.adobe.com/cantrell/archives/2012/01/how-to-download-data-as-a-file-from-javascript.html#comments
[19:06] <kulelu88> https://blogs.adobe.com/cantrell/archives/2012/01/how-to-download-data-as-a-file-from-javascript.html
[19:17] <nsnzero> goodnight guys - sleep well
[19:18] <inetpro> good evening
[19:24] <chesedo> kulelu88: if that is what you are looking for then it was my options two done using js...
[19:24] <chesedo> kulelu88: you might then also find this usefull http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20508788/do-i-need-content-type-application-octet-stream-for-file-download
[19:24] <chesedo> evening inetpro
[19:37] <kulelu88> where is option 2? chesedo
[19:38] <chesedo> hinch two...
[19:38] <chesedo> [21:00:36] <chesedo> or for the user to download the html you will need to serve the html to the user as normal, but will have to change one of the http header tags so that it presents the user with a download dialog...
[19:38] <kulelu88> oh
[19:39] <chesedo> that 'Application/octet-stream' in your link is one o the header tags...
[19:39] <chesedo> although you might want to use 'html/text' instead...
[19:42] <inetpro> time to go sleep, good night everyone
[19:43] <magellanic> bye inetpro
[19:43] <inetpro> Maaz: watch them
[19:43] <Maaz> oh inetpro I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!
[19:45] <chesedo> kulelu88: here is something simplier -> http://stackoverflow.com/a/7439083/2727983
[19:45] <chesedo> Maaz: botsnack
[19:45] <Maaz> YAY someone cares about me too!
[19:45] <kulelu88> Maaz: xoxo
[19:45] <Maaz> kulelu88: Sorry...
[19:46] <chesedo> Maaz: now no more watching us...
[19:46] <Maaz> chesedo: Excuse me?
[19:46] <chesedo> Maaz: i will take away your botsnack :(
[19:46] <Maaz> thanks, chesedo
[19:46] <kulelu88> Maaz: sudo rm -rf /
[19:46] <Maaz> kulelu88: What?
[20:00] <chesedo> night all
[20:05] <kulelu88> night
[21:30] <K_K_N> nsnzero, managed to do what I wanted to do but seems like it was all for nothing that software does not seem to be compatible with 16.04
[21:31] <K_K_N> so now need to see if there is software for 16.04 cause at the moment ubuntu has found it as a mobile broadband but I want it to see it as a 3G USB modem not a mobile phone
[21:32] <K_K_N> I am suspecting this is the reason why my connectivty speeds are not as good as it usually is


[03:07] <danielveazey> what's up y'all
[04:27] <kwadroke> anyone still awake?
[04:29] <kwadroke> a_unix_geek: you still around?
[04:30] <a_unix_geek> yea, sup
[04:30] <kwadroke> irc server is running now
[04:30] <kwadroke> trying to get NickServ and ChanServ going
[04:30] <a_unix_geek> scweet
[04:31] <kwadroke> I think I got the right module loaded, but they're not there
[04:38] <kwadroke> think I figured it out


[00:44] <ZooMonkey> Hi guys. I am trying to compile Openbravo from source using ANT and the instructions from the wiki, unfortunately it never gives me a JAR, and, I get 1Error 1Warning evertime I try to compile. What am I doing wrong? I'm running on the oldschool Sun JAVA (1.6) using 10.04LTS Ubuntu. No reason for it to not compile. Brand new machine and Linux install - no customization.
[00:46] <ZooMonkey> I see other people getting my Warning message but when they compile on XP for some reason they get a JAR afterwords. When I try via terminal, it only puts things into /build/classes/ it seems??? ANd I get no JAR :(
[00:48] <ZooMonkey> the error keeps telling me to recomile with Xlint:unchecked for details , however, when I run "ant -D Xlint=unchecked" ,,, it just says same things
[00:49] <ZooMonkey> same happens with "ant -D Xlint=false"
[00:50] <ZooMonkey> whooop! wait I just found its an option in the XML i hav to add
[00:54] <ZooMonkey> hmmmmm it's not adding into my XML happily at all


[05:40] <mikeeq> Hello, I'm having trouble running lubuntu on my computer. It only runs in compatibility/recovery mode (live image or installed).
[05:41] <mikeeq> If i boot it normally, it very soon locks up completely, and I have to power cycle it. alt+sysq+reisub doesn't even do anything.
[05:51] <guiverc> mikeeq, what release are you asking about?  what hardware/video card?
[05:53] <mikeeq> guiverc: I'm on the latest one. Intel integrated graphics. no-name nuc
[05:54] <guiverc> it's best if you're specific; latest is vague (latest daily? latest release? latest lts? are all vague); even integrated graphics is a graphics card
[05:55] <mikeeq> guiverc: sorry. it's 21.04
[05:55] <guiverc> i'm away ~20 mins; but I'd look at what graphics you have, boot live & `sudo lshw -C video` will provide details  (you can pastebinit here)
[05:58] <mikeeq> guiverc: https://pastebin.com/geWv6Ygi
[06:06] <mikeeq> I'm just going to try an older LTS version. Pretty sure I had one running fine on this machine a couple years back.
[06:07] <mikeeq> thanks for your help, guiverc
[06:12] <guiverc> mikeeq, if you go for lubuntu 20.04 (or 20.04.1 media) you'll use the GA kernel, ie. 5.4 which is supported the full product life; has 'older' kernel modules (ie. drivers), where as 20.04.2 media will default to HWE which means it'll get the 21.04 kernel very soon (at 20.04.3)
[06:16] <mikeeq> guiverc: are you sure? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[06:16] <mikeeq> this looks like I have to go back to 18.04
[06:16] <mikeeq> 18.04.1
[06:17] <guiverc> Yes I'm sure...   The wiki link you are referring to is for Ubuntu (not flavors like Lubuntu).  Lubuntu media also doesn't include OEM & other kernels like Ubuntu Desktop does.
[06:18] <guiverc> fyi:  Lubuntu 20.04.3 media (today's daily) contains the 5.11 kernel from 21.04; however installed system (my own anyway) with HWE is still using 5.8 from 20.10
[06:18] <mikeeq> guiverc: ah ok
[06:19] <guiverc> fyi:  some flavors maybe like Ubuntu Desktop; I can only say I know Lubuntu (can't remember what 20.04.2 installed with xubuntu/kubuntu - didn't have need to commit that detail to memory sorry)
[06:22] <guiverc> sorry s/20.04.2/20.04.1 ^ (for xubuntu/kubuntu..)
[07:06] <asus> salve. avrei bisogno di un aiuto in merito alle finestre che se le minimizzo non le vedo più, per sbaglio devo aver eliminato la barra sotto
[07:07] <asus> ho provato a cercare ma non trovo nulla, io ho LXDE 18.04 LTS da poco
[07:14] <asus92> scusami entrato in inglese poi mi sono accorto anche dell'italiano, scusate sono un principiante
[07:31] <guiverc> Lubuntu 20.04 LTS is the oldest supported release of Lubuntu; https://lubuntu.me/bionic-eol/
[18:47] <owenj> hello?
 Hi
[19:48] <linuxt1> test
[19:49] <linuxt1> well aint this intresting
[19:49] <linuxt1> misspeled it like a pro
[19:49] <linuxt1> ok
[19:49] <linuxt1> well
[19:59] <H4k> test.
[21:22] <linuxt1> ok
[21:22] <linuxt1> huh
[21:22] <linuxt1> well erm
[21:22] <linuxt1> so this is pretty dead


[06:52] <dholbach> good morning
[07:36] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:27]  * dholbach relocates, brb
[12:59] <jose> hey jcastro, in case you have any probs on Fri with Ubuntu on Air, I'll be around since 1h or 2 before the charm school
[13:18] <jcastro> ack
[15:57] <dholbach> all right my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow
[15:59] <SergioMeneses> see ya dholbach
[16:00] <dholbach> hasta la proxima
[16:00] <SergioMeneses> buen dia dholbach
[17:06] <jono> popey, you should provide guidance on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1267814
[17:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1267814 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Sync'ed calendar events don't appear at the correct time" [Critical,In progress]
[17:20] <popey> jono: yeah, talking to people to figure out best way, and will leave a comment when we have an answer in a little bit
[17:20] <jono> thanks
[17:20] <jono> popey, I also asked Bill to feed into it
[17:20] <popey> cool, ta
[17:33] <jono> jose, hey
[17:33] <jono> we have a timing issue for the q+a
[17:33] <jono> I need to do it in 27mins
[17:33] <jono> as I have calls in an hour
[17:33] <jono> the tz change screwed us
[17:34] <jono> I moved it in the calendar
[20:06] <IdleOne> jono: nice job
[20:06] <IdleOne> actually have some people thinking you quit
[21:59] <jose> jono: I have adjusted all of them to be at 18 UTC now, seems good?
[21:59] <jono> thanks jose
[21:59] <jose> np


[10:23] <rmg51> Morning
[13:19] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys?, hamsters and everything else
[13:19] <JonathanD> Morning.
[13:19] <teddy-dbear> o/
[14:28] <ChinnoDog> Monday has found me.
[16:14] <ssweeny> it finds us all eventually
[16:21] <ChinnoDog> Monday--


[00:26] <aperson_> I have questions about creating a deb package that overwrites files in /etc/ and is applied during install time via the preseed file and it's currently halting the install. Syslog shows it asking to replace the files. Is there a IRC chanel better suited to this kind of question?


[03:08] <pcjc2> hi
[03:10] <pcjc2> bedtime for me I think... (night)
[04:03] <ubotu> New bug: #132482 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Intel graphic driver with a horizontal stripe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132482
[13:37] <tepsipakki> bryyce: for some reason the xserver still waits for libpixman-1-dev, although it has been built a week ago
[13:38] <bryyce> hrm
[13:39] <bryyce> is the dependency correct?  (this is a new one iirc)
[13:39] <bryyce> hmm, do we need to move it to main?
[13:40] <bryyce> $ apt-cache madison libpixman
[13:40] <bryyce>  libpixman |    0.1.6-1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Sources
[13:45] <bryyce>  libpixman |    0.1.6-1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Sources
[13:46] <bryyce> so sounds like it just needs a MIR
[13:50] <tepsipakki> oh wiat
[13:50] <tepsipakki> wait, even
[13:51] <tepsipakki> it was renamed by upstream, and the build-dep is libpixman-1-dev, which is correct
[13:53] <bryyce> still, it is in universe so we'll need a MIR
[13:53] <bryyce> however I'm not sure being in universe would be enough to prevent the build from going through?
[13:53] <bryyce> libpixman-1-dev |    0.9.4-1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages
[13:53] <bryyce>     pixman |    0.9.4-1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Sources
[13:54] <tepsipakki> ah! sorry I missed that
[13:54] <tepsipakki> yeah, it needs a MIR
[13:54] <bryyce> c$  apt-cache madison libpixman-1-dev
[13:54] <bryyce> libpixman-1-dev |    0.9.4-1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages
[13:54] <bryyce>     pixman |    0.9.4-1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Sources
[13:54] <bryyce>     pixman |    0.9.5-3 | http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main Sources
[13:54] <bryyce>     pixman |    0.9.5-3 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Sources
[13:54] <tepsipakki> because xserver is in main so the build environment doesn't include universe
[13:54] <bryyce> ok
[13:54] <tepsipakki> that's how I understand it
[13:55] <bryyce> also we should drop the old pixman package (debian dropped it as well)
[13:55] <bryyce> carl worth said it was woefully obsolete
[13:55] <tepsipakki> I've asked for it
[13:55] <bryyce> bbiab
[13:55] <tepsipakki> but it was forgotten
[13:57] <tepsipakki> hm, so vbetool sometimes hangs on resume
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #137758 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "nvidia-glx-new installs 386 kernel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137758
[14:01] <bryyce> tepsipakki: "asked for it" - "it" == MIR, or "it" == drop pixman?
[14:02] <tepsipakki> drop
[14:02] <bryyce> ok, shall I put in the MIR?
[14:02] <tepsipakki> that was in August I think
[14:02] <tepsipakki> yes please
[14:03] <bryyce> will do
[14:14] <tepsipakki> thanks
[14:41] <bryyce> uff, ok that's done
[14:41] <bryyce> tepsipakki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportPixman
[14:41] <bryyce> tepsipakki: since you're a core dev, please review and add your name to the end
[14:42] <bryyce> oops, I missed one big
[14:42] <bryyce> er bit
[14:43] <tepsipakki> ah, will do
[14:44] <bryyce> ok now I'm done for real
[14:56] <tepsipakki> huh, I don't recall filing bug 156420 ~week ago :)
[14:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 156420 in libpixman "please remove from the archive" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156420
[14:59] <tepsipakki> comment added on the MIR
[15:01] <bryyce> thanks
[15:15] <tepsipakki> we need MIR's for the x11-* bundles as well, once they are in
[15:16] <bryyce> true
[15:17] <bryyce> I hope they don't require us to do code reviews of each of them
[15:17] <tepsipakki> no, it's the same code as we currently have
[15:18] <bryyce> ok
[15:20] <bryyce> if you'd like, I'd be willing to take care of the MIRs for them
[15:20] <bryyce> I know it's sort of a PITA.  But I think I could just script up generation of them
[15:20] <tepsipakki> sure :)
[15:20] <tepsipakki> then I can review them :)
[15:20] <bryyce> :-)
[15:21] <tepsipakki> perfect symbiosis
[15:21] <bryyce> yup
[15:21] <tepsipakki> wouldn't work the other way around ;)
[15:21] <tepsipakki> hopefully you'll be a core-dev soon :)
[15:22] <bryyce> yeah I need to get on that
[15:25] <tepsipakki> libx11-xcb* are sitting on NEW, but that's not a big problem yet
[15:28] <bryyce> tepsipakki: did you take care of putting libpixman-1-dev in main or do we still need pitti or someone?
[15:30] <tepsipakki> bryyce: I can't do that actually.. it still needs an archive admin to approve
[15:30] <tepsipakki> but hopefully my review makes it easier
[15:30] <bryyce> ok, I'll keep an eye on pitti until it's done
[15:30]  * bryyce nods
[17:31] <ubotu> New bug: #159314 in xorg (main) "LG Flatron L226WTQ with radeon drivers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159314
[18:04] <bryyce> tepsipakki: I'm sitting next to pitti right now and having him look at the MIR; hopefully should be in shortly
[18:06] <tepsipakki> ask him about the missing syncs as well (video drivers)
[18:11] <tepsipakki> bug 156298
[18:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 156298 in xorg "please sync from Debian" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156298
[18:12] <bryyce> tepsipakki: he mentioned that there are issues with buildd blocking things up - could that be the issue?
[18:13] <tepsipakki> could be
[18:25] <bryyce> it's promoted
[18:25] <tepsipakki> yay
[18:41] <bryyce> tepsipakki: could you upload this -intel package for Hardy?  http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Uploads/
[18:41] <bryyce> tepsipakki: It sounds like it's fine; I'm going to drop one of its patches for -sru'ing once we have more testing done
[18:44] <tepsipakki> should it be merged before that?
[18:49] <bryyce> don't know...
[18:50] <tepsipakki> because debian now has xserver 1.4 as a build-dep, and that would prevent installing the (future) package(s) on gutsy
[18:50] <tepsipakki> but for a SRU it can be easily changed
[18:51] <tepsipakki> and release a -1ubuntuFOO~gutsy1 etc
[18:51] <tepsipakki> I'm not sure how the versioning should look like
[18:53] <bryyce> well, I'd like to make sure we don't forget to include these patches for Hardy
[18:53] <tepsipakki> they could be added while merging :)
[18:54] <tepsipakki> but I can upload that, no prob
[18:54] <bryyce> yeah that'd be fine
[18:54] <bryyce> fwiw, patch 07 is the one I'm dropping since it fixes only a non-critical bug, but I think we could hold it in hardy
[18:55] <ubotu> New bug: #159331 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "No bootsplash with nvidia/new" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159331
[18:58] <bryyce> yeah pitti said he thinks it's just due to buildd being overloaded; if there are particular high priority builds we should bump up, let me know and I'll let him know
[18:58] <tepsipakki> nah, that's fine
[19:00] <tepsipakki> I closed the bug
[19:05] <bryyce> okie
[19:05] <tepsipakki> http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/11/01/ars-at-the-ubuntu-desktop-summit
[19:05] <tepsipakki> we are famous :)
[19:07] <bryyce> heh, nice photo of you!
[19:08] <tepsipakki> us!
[19:10] <tepsipakki> I should have had a haircut before coming here
[19:11] <bryyce> I should have had someone different give me mine
[19:11] <tepsipakki> shaved it all off before midsummer, and just let it grow since :)
[19:11] <tepsipakki> oh?-)
[19:12] <tepsipakki> it's not that bad :)
[19:12] <bryyce> heh thanks; it's grown out a bit so looks less lopsided
[19:17] <tepsipakki> heh
[19:46] <tepsipakki> hmm, forgot to upload the intel driver, but that's now done
[20:06] <Q-FUNK> bryyce: turns out that someoen has a sample ThinCan with them at UDS: Gadi
[20:06] <Q-FUNK> oho
[20:35] <ubotu> New bug: #159355 in xorg (main) "ATI 9600 fglrx crashes, ati xorg driver does not display fonts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159355
[21:13] <tepsipakki> sweet, the server is built on !i386
[23:42] <pcjc2> Bryce?


[08:17] <codexn> ha!guys ,i have a problem ,i want to learn high level assembly ,so i need to install HLA
[08:18] <codexn> but when i had download it ,i don't know how to setting it
[08:18] <codexn> anyone can help me,thanks
[08:19] <nigelb> codexn: You should try asking in #ubuntu.  This is the classroom channel where we have educational sessions.
[08:20] <codexn> thanks,i will go
[16:55] <Chaser_> jailbroke my iphone ... wow there is entirely different world out there for jailbroken phones ...


[11:30] <cmaloney> morning
[11:36] <notlikethesoup> morning
[11:36] <notlikethesoup> my desktop is borked and i'm stumped
[11:36] <notlikethesoup> it will not boot into absolutely anything
[11:37] <notlikethesoup> i already RMAd my motherboard, and gigabyte said it was fine and sent it back
[11:37] <cmaloney> Even from external media?
[11:37] <notlikethesoup> i tried a linux USB to no avail
[11:37] <notlikethesoup> front and back USB ports
[11:37] <cmaloney> Did you somehow turn secure boot on?
[11:38] <notlikethesoup> i _believe_ not, i won't be able to check until after work
[11:38] <notlikethesoup> the bios got reset, so it's basically just whatever stock settings
[11:38] <notlikethesoup> my overclocking is no more :(
[11:38] <notlikethesoup> but that's fine
[12:17] <mrgoodcat> notlikethesoup: its still busted?
[12:18] <mrgoodcat> i thought you said when i was there you were going to have it up and running soon
[12:22] <notlikethesoup> mrgoodcat: lol well gigabyte took their sweet time with it
[12:22] <notlikethesoup> but i just put it back together finally on tuesday
[12:22] <notlikethesoup> spent about 4-5 hours on it since then trying to troubleshoot to no avail
[12:22] <mrgoodcat> and its still borked
[12:22] <rick_h> morning
[12:23] <cmaloney> notlikethesoup: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
[12:23] <mrgoodcat> ^^
[12:24] <mrgoodcat> now that i can unlock 1password on my phone with a fingerprint i get mad every time i have to type the password in on my laptop
[12:25] <notlikethesoup> cmaloney: lol maybe times
[12:26] <notlikethesoup> i've had better luck using onboard graphics; trying to boot into windows i would freeze at the windows logo loading screen
[12:26] <notlikethesoup> but with onboard i can at least get to the advanced startup
[12:26] <notlikethesoup> however, still won't boot when i try to just continue into windows
[12:47] <jrwren> Good morning.
[12:47] <notlikethesoup> o/
[12:48] <jrwren> notlikethesoup: have you tried running it with only the mobo, outside the case, resting on an insulator with no SATA plugged in and nothing else plugged in? that is step 1 to checking a mobo.
[12:49] <jrwren> notlikethesoup: then, one by one component plug each thing in, with it out of case, check htat it runs that way.
[12:49] <jrwren> notlikethesoup: then, if you must, mount it in a case and do the same procedure.
[12:49] <notlikethesoup> i have not gone that in-depth yet, no
[12:50] <notlikethesoup> good idea though
[12:51] <jrwren> 22yrs ago I got a job in PC repair. It was only a little bit different back then. The same troubleshooting procedures apply.
[12:54] <mrgoodcat> 22 years? i'm not sure why but I always assumed that you were my age
[12:54] <mrgoodcat> you look younger over IRC
[12:54] <jrwren> are you older than me?
[12:55] <mrgoodcat> lol no
[12:55] <jrwren> I always assumed you were 43 this year.
[12:55] <mrgoodcat> i'm 24
[12:55]  * jrwren chokes on coffee.
[12:55] <mrgoodcat> unless you were repairing pcs when you were 2
[12:55] <jrwren> I have that youthful attitude about me.
[12:55] <mrgoodcat> i'm fairly sure i even met you once at chc
[12:55] <mrgoodcat> never would have guessed you had 20 years on me
[12:56] <jrwren> oh no. I was 18yo.   Now i'm only 1.6 times your age. its a curve approaching a minimum.
[13:01] <jrwren> oh, i'm saying 15yrs not 16 yrs. You turn 25 in July, I turn 40 in Aug.
[13:01] <notlikethesoup> he's got a point
[13:01] <mrgoodcat> haha that's one way to look at it
[13:01] <notlikethesoup> let's not talk about the math from before we were born
[17:06] <cmaloney> Apparently Amazon is rumored to be buying Slack
[17:07] <greg-g> for a 9 with 3 commas
[17:07] <greg-g> 9 effing billion
[17:09] <cmaloney> Ayeeeeep
[17:09] <cmaloney> Would love to know what they plan to do with it
[17:10] <cmaloney> so I can be smug at the people who said that IRC was for losers.
[17:10] <cmaloney> "Wah, I need my EMOJI and GIFs"
[17:14] <dzho> "IRC, isn't that what botnets use to coordinate?"
[17:15] <dzho> me: yeah, and most bank robbers wear shoes. what's you f'ing point.
[17:15] <dzho> your*
[17:16] <rick_h> what? AMZ buying slack? I could see MS, or some other folks with groupware type stuff in mind...but wtf would AMZ use it for?
[17:16] <rick_h> "now you can ask the seller of your product about the product in real time!"
[17:16] <rick_h> meh, I guess with echo and the video calling stuff maybe there's something there to building out a coms network
[17:18] <greg-g> dzho: did you see that news story about a botnet now using comments on brittaney spear's instagram posts?
[17:19] <dzho> I did!
[17:19] <greg-g> what a crazy new world we live in
[17:20] <dzho> I, for one, welcome the national security state's deep and offensive intrusion into every aspect of pop culture in the name of keeping us safe.
[17:20] <dzho> you can't be too careful, right?
[17:21] <dzho> I should have taken better notes, but the way I remember it, we had the shoe bomber, and so then you had to take off your belt and shoes to go through airport checkpoints.
[17:21] <dzho> then came the underwear bomber and we all held our breath
[17:22] <dzho> and that one guy walked into the airport starkers
[17:22] <dzho> but as it happens naturism didn't become the new norm at the airport
[17:23] <dzho> but they did roll in the only-slightly-increases-your-risk-of-cancer-what's-the-big-deal porno scanners


[02:00] <Gammaxana> hello?
[02:00] <Hydr0p0nX> hi
[02:01] <Gammaxana> oh cool there are people here :D
[02:01] <Gammaxana> I'm in a bit of a pickle at the moment
[02:01] <Hydr0p0nX> battling an hdmi audio issue
[02:02] <Gammaxana> linux F/B combo connection issue to a winows Front end for me
[02:02] <Gammaxana> and when i got it to connect once the schema was 8 off XD
[02:03] <Hydr0p0nX> means you have different versions of front and back end
[02:03] <Gammaxana> well i updated the backend and now it wont connect at all
[02:04] <Gammaxana> same information as before but now it is kind of stuck saying it cant connect
[02:05] <Hydr0p0nX> can you telnet to the backend port ?
[02:06] <Gammaxana> on the backend itself or the remote computer
[02:06] <Hydr0p0nX> remote machine
[02:06] <Gammaxana> which port would i telnet
[02:06] <Hydr0p0nX> from the "new" frontend to the backend
[02:07] <Hydr0p0nX> 6543
[02:08] <Gammaxana> no
[02:08] <Gammaxana> it will not connect
[02:11] <Hydr0p0nX> that's your problem ...
[02:11] <Gammaxana> one moment
[02:11] <Hydr0p0nX> run through the backend setup and make sure it's configured to listen on a static address instead of <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:17] <Gammaxana> i have a static set in the network manager
[02:18] <Hydr0p0nX> that needs to match what's set in mythbackend setup
[02:18] <Gammaxana> and Its set to the same one as in the setup which is a 192.168.2.xx number
[02:19] <Gammaxana> master and local are both <IP_ADDRESS> which match my static ip
[02:19] <Hydr0p0nX> and the new frontend points to 2.13 ?
[02:19] <Gammaxana> yes it does
[02:20] <Hydr0p0nX> restart the backend service and see if it connects then
[02:22] <Gammaxana> alright
[02:24] <Hydr0p0nX> if it still doesn't connect, you've either got a firewall issue or something in the network config blocking remote access to the port
[02:24] <Gammaxana> i found something interesting
[02:25] <Hydr0p0nX> yea ?
[02:25] <Gammaxana> failed listening ob tcp <IP_ADDRESS>:6543 - Error 8: the bound address is already in use
[02:25] <Gammaxana> why would it listen on that port?
[02:26] <Hydr0p0nX> you have the backend configured to listen on localhost
[02:26] <Gammaxana> but I had that changed
[02:26] <Gammaxana> where should i change that
[02:27] <Hydr0p0nX> in the backend setup
[02:27] <Hydr0p0nX> mines rebooting
[02:27] <Gammaxana> now it says cond not connect to master backendserver. is it running? is the ip address set for it in mythtv-setup correct?
[02:28] <Hydr0p0nX> run mythtv-setup
[02:28] <Gammaxana> on the backend, both are listed as <IP_ADDRESS> for master and for local
[02:28] <Gammaxana> alright ill run that
[02:28] <Hydr0p0nX> confirm the ip:port is set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:29] <Hydr0p0nX> and 6543
[02:30] <Gammaxana> i run it and it brings me into the same this i listed before
[02:31] <Gammaxana> <IP_ADDRESS> and 6543 match
[02:31] <Gammaxana> status port on 6544
[02:34] <Hydr0p0nX> then there's a firewall issue preventing access remotely
[02:35] <Gammaxana> how would i fix this?
[02:36] <Hydr0p0nX> gotta determine which side is the problem
[02:37] <Hydr0p0nX> can you telnet to <IP_ADDRESS> 6543 from the backend machine?
[02:37] <Gammaxana> let me see
[02:37] <Gammaxana> can i telnet from the terminal directly by default?
[02:37] <Hydr0p0nX> should be able to
[02:38] <Gammaxana> yes
[02:38] <Gammaxana> i can
[02:42] <Gammaxana> however, backend telnet to frontend remote does not appear to work
[02:54] <Gammaxana> i think the problem may lie on the remote side
[02:55] <Gammaxana> oh wait, on the server shutdown it said apatche2 using <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:16] <Gammaxana> relogging
[23:24] <fluvvell> anybody here using a dvb-s pci-e card in their mythtv?