[00:00] <bobofosho> http://apcmag.com/images/howto/dualboot_ubuntu_vista_vista_first/ubuntu_install_01.jpg
[00:00] <bobofosho> funky: no that didnt work
[00:00] <funkywds> bobofosho: so just letting it sit after boot and letting the clock count down didn't work?
[00:00] <funkywds> what happened?
[00:00] <bobofosho> nothing at all
[00:00] <bobofosho> it just stayed at that screen
[00:00] <MrStein> bobofosho: did you "Check CD for defects" ?
[00:00] <bobofosho> it wont let me
[00:00] <funkywds> bobofosho: it's not the disc, it's your hardware
[00:00] <bobofosho> i cant select any of the options
[00:00] <MrStein> bobofosho:  What PC ?
[00:01] <bobofosho> hp
[00:01] <funkywds> bobofosho: the liveCD doesn't like it for some reason
[00:01] <bobofosho> laptop
[00:01] <bobofosho> 6730s
[00:01] <funkywds> bobofosho: mapping may be off for your "enter" key
[00:01] <meshuggah> heya sebsebseb !!!! how are you my friend?
[00:01] <bobofosho> how do i turn it on
[00:01] <bobofosho> ?
[00:01] <funkywds> bobofosho: not "off" i mean icorrectly mapped
[00:02] <bobofosho> ok so how do i remap it
[00:02] <funkywds> bobofosho: i'm interested to know whether you'll have this problem with the linux mint liveCD
[00:02] <LrdHelmet> how do i  add stuff to the dock?
[00:02] <bobofosho> i dont wanna download another os
[00:02] <bobofosho> to much hassle
[00:03] <funkywds> bobofosho: i hear ya.  Linux Mint *IS* ubuntu, but tweaked a bit to be easier to use and install
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:  you have a ps2 or usb keyboard? got one of the other kinds to test out?
[00:03] <funkywds> bobofosho: as for your keyboard, you wouldn't happen to have an external usb KB you could use temporarily, do you?
[00:03] <bobofosho> unfortuanantly no
[00:03] <bobofosho> i dont
[00:03] <funkywds> bobofosho: darn
[00:03] <bobofosho> but if enter always works in windows
[00:04] <bobofosho> why would it be a problem now
[00:04] <funkywds> bobofosho: the key may be mapped to do something else.  it prolly works, just not for what its supposed to
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:  laptops can be quirky (this is a laptop right?)
[00:04] <bobofosho> yep
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:    you could try unetbootin and make a bootable flash drive to install from.
[00:04] <funkywds> bobofosho: you could try pressing other keys to see another key acts like the enter key
[00:05] <bobofosho> already tried
[00:05] <bobofosho> that
[00:05] <bobofosho> none of the keys
[00:05] <bobofosho> worked
[00:05] <stroyan> bobofosho:  http://www.linlap.com/wiki/hp-compaq+6730s looks encouraging.  It does not mention any keyboard trouble.
[00:05] <FloodBot1> bobofosho: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> ctrl-h or ctrl-j also works as enter at times.. but it SHOULD count down i thought.. try the escape key also...
[00:05] <funkywds> bobofosho: did you try pressing them with the "Fn" key held down?
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> It could be the machine is just hanging.
[00:05] <bobofosho> true
[00:05] <bobofosho> so many options
[00:06] <bobofosho> its overwhelming
[00:06] <funkywds> Dr_Willis: not if he can change the selections but not select them
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:  with a unetbootin built 'flash installer disk' you could edit the syslinux.cfg files to skip the language selection perhaps.
[00:06] <bobofosho> whoever posted that link thanks
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:  but it sounds more to me like the thing is totally hanging.
[00:06] <bobofosho> why would it hang i wonder
[00:07] <funkywds> Dr_Willis: he says he can change the selections, but not actually select one
[00:07] <funkywds> Dr_Willis: if he gets any response, it's not a hang, but a hw or mapping prob
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:  try the escape key at that language selection . that should 'close' the language  box (and i for one hage NO  IDEA why ubuntu likes to auto-pop that thing up)
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:  on one installer/flash drive i disabled that so it never asked the language. :)
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> funkywds:  thats a good sign then
[00:08] <funkywds> Dr_Willis: yeah
[00:08] <funkywds> Dr_Willis:  tricky
[00:08] <bobofosho> i can get rid of the language menu
[00:08] <bobofosho> fine
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> The default ubuntu sysliniux.cfg setup is whats tricky.. its was a pain to read through and alter,
[00:09] <bobofosho> i can move the selection highligter
[00:09] <bobofosho> too
[00:09] <bobofosho> but i dont know why this is a problem though
[00:09] <funkywds> bobofosho: that means your computer isn't hangign, try turning on/off the numlock
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:  so do the F keys work if you get rid iof the language selection?
[00:10] <funkywds> bobofosho: maybe the numlock is on by default and needs to be disabled, therefore mucking up the KB map
[00:10] <bobofosho> ok how do i turn off numlock
[00:10] <funkywds> bobofosho: there should be a key that says "Num Lock".  you may have to press the Fn key to access it's functionality
[00:12] <funkywds> *its functionality
[00:13] <bobofosho> i think turned it off
[00:13]  * meshuggah kisses sebsebseb
[00:13] <stroyan> bobofosho:  When dealing with a install problem you should as a rule look for BIOS updates for your hardware.  You may be able to use http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3687778&swItem=ob-73004-1&prodNameId=3687786&swEnvOID=1093&swLang=13&taskId=135&mode=4&idx=3
[00:13] <brandon> hello, i have ubuntu home version but i want to use ubuntu server is there any way i can get server version without having to re install desktop version?
[00:13] <funkywds> stroyan: good idea
[00:14]  * meshuggah cuddles sebsebseb
[00:15] <brandon> Hello?
[00:15] <meshuggah> brandon, dunno sorry
[00:15] <roger21> brandon, the server and home are just two different set of packages, you may remove/install the package you don't need/need
[00:15] <yoyoned1> brandon: just install the server apps you want
[00:15] <th0r> brandon: install lamp
[00:15] <th0r> !lamp
[00:16] <mazda01> !lamp
[00:16] <mubu> Hey guys is there any way i can use synaptic package manager to downgrade/undo an upgrade of a certain package i did recently? thanks
[00:16] <mazda01> ha, cool. i know how to get the bot to help me out. i didn't know this before
[00:17] <mazda01> mubu, i don't know about synaptic but I know you can use apt-get or aptitude to hold certain versions and not upgrade them
[00:17] <mubu> mazda01,  I already performed an upgrade though... is there any way to rollback
[00:18] <tavelram_> is there a way to clean the apt cache from already installed packages?
[00:18] <mazda01> mubu, here's a guide: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
[00:18] <etherealG> hi, anyone know if I can install wireshark on linux without interrupting current network connections and monitor those existing connections?
[00:18] <MrStein> etherealG: yes, you can
[00:19] <Reefer> Anyone here to help me with Ubuntu issues
[00:19] <Reefer> ?
[00:19] <mazda01> mubu, sure. first you would aptitude remove --purge packagename  and then follow that tutorial. unless you're saying you upgraded the entire distro.
[00:19] <funkywds> Reefer: most of us
[00:19] <MrStein> (consider another nick until you master wireshark) ;-)
[00:19] <etherealG> hehe
[00:19] <brandon> i can. Reffer
[00:19] <stroyan> mazda01:  You can use private message instead of conversing with ubottu in the room.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots#Private%20messages
[00:19] <Reefer> If someone is free to help me can you please pm me
[00:19] <yoyoned1> !ask|reefer
[00:19] <etherealG> well, I wasn't sure as switching the adapter into monitor mode I thought might drop connections
[00:19] <brandon> :)
[00:20] <mubu> mazda01, No, i just upgraded a certain program, but dont see how that guide can help me..
[00:20] <MrStein> etherealG:  WLAN ?
[00:20] <mechtech> why does my package for wine-gecko have star on it?
[00:20] <etherealG> I'm really eager to watch what a process is up to, but if I accidentally close it I can't start it again
[00:20] <etherealG> nah MrStein, ethernet
[00:20] <etherealG> an open irc connection is what I want to monitor actually :)
[00:21] <mazda01> mubu, i just told you how. first remove --purge packagename and then follow the guide. read the guide, that'll help first of all.
[00:21] <MrStein> etherealG: there is no "monitor" mode on ethernet. There is promiscuos. And no, changing it does not break existing connections (you mean TCP , right?)
[00:21] <FrozenFire> Is there a decent bandwidth monitoring daemon that provides a Gnome panel app?
[00:21] <etherealG> yeah, tcp
[00:21] <etherealG> thanks for the info, I'll have a go then
[00:21] <MrStein> bye
[00:21] <mun24_> GTK-Warnign**:Failed to load module "libcanberra-gtk-module.so" any clue?
[00:21] <Zappo> Does anyone know how to find out the local ip?
[00:22] <mun24_> use ifconfig
[00:22] <etherealG> Zappo: ifconfig
[00:22] <yoyoned1> Zappo: ifconfig
[00:22] <mazda01> mubu, read 3.10 How to keep specific versions of packages installed (complex)
[00:22] <Zappo> Thanks
[00:23] <etherealG> thanks for the help, laters guys
[00:24] <bobofosho> i  keep getting this message when checking for defects: "invalid or corrupt kernel imeage"
[00:24] <bobofosho> whats that mean
[00:24] <bobofosho> *image
[00:25] <bobofosho> any ideas guys
[00:25] <bobofosho> ???
[00:25] <mechtech> bobofosho: checking what for defects?
[00:25] <funkywds> bobofosho: huh.  that's an odd one.
[00:26] <yoyoned1> bobofosho: when do you get the error
[00:26] <funkywds> bobofosho: that means your CD didn't burn right.  try using a different burner
[00:26] <Zappo> bye
[00:26] <bobofosho> the burner is fine i burned windows the other day
[00:26] <bobofosho> and it worked
[00:26] <funkywds> bobofosho: windows is less of a problem with errors
[00:27] <bobofosho> true dat
[00:27] <funkywds> bobofosho: linux is more discriminate
[00:27] <mechtech> bobofosho: when checking the cd for defects?
[00:27] <bobofosho> yep
[00:27] <funkywds> bobofosho: maybe it's your burner or the recording app/media that's your problem
[00:27] <funkywds> bobofosho: weird and rare, to be sure
[00:28] <funkywds> bobofosho: esp since you burned 2 of them
[00:28] <mechtech> bobofosho: prolly corrupt download...re-download, then re-burn and try again...at any rate, you cannot use that kernel image
[00:28] <funkywds> mechtech: not a bad idea
[00:28] <kapipi> Hmm someone is sending me a request that I complete a questionnaire through Ubuntu Brainstorm.Is that normal?
[00:28] <bobofosho> well i'll try redownloading
[00:28] <mechtech> kapipi: never give out personal/financial info to anonymous sources on the internet
[00:29] <bobofosho> i guess
[00:29] <stroyan> bobofosho:  There is actually a firmware update for one of the possible optical drives in that type of laptop.  But it looks like it requires windows to update that firmware.  http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3687778&swItem=ob-70726-1&prodNameId=3687786&swEnvOID=1093&swLang=13&taskId=135&mode=4&idx=3http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDe
[00:29] <stroyan> scription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3687778&swItem=ob-70726-1&prodNameId=3687786&swEnvOID=1093&swLang=13&taskId=135&mode=4&idx=3http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3687778&swItem=ob-70726-1&prodNameId=3687786&swEnvOID=1093&swLang=13&taskId=135&mode=4&idx=3
[00:29] <FloodBot1> stroyan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <mazda01> bobofosho, did you check the m5sum or whatever that is to make sure your download was correct
[00:29] <kapipi> Well its not exactly anonymous. The sender is claiming to be a french student writing a thesis on innovation.
[00:29] <stroyan> Wow! A one URL flood!
[00:29] <mechtech> stroyan...he said he was able to burn fine in win...most likely a corrupt daownload
[00:29] <kapipi> But the questionnaire is like .. very long...
[00:30] <^Phantom^> I have a file that is encrypted.
[00:30] <funkywds> stroyan: lol
[00:30] <mechtech> kapipi: do what you like, but I would leave out cirtical personal info (name, address, phone #, ss# etc)
[00:30] <^Phantom^> I have the decryption code for it, but i can't get the file to open in any media player
[00:30] <^Phantom^> it's a .wmv video
[00:31] <^Phantom^> Can I please get some help with this?
[00:31] <kapipi> mechtech: I think im going to ignore it. Its very long, something's odd. As a student you dont have time to process that much information.
[00:31] <mechtech> ^phantom^: you need to convert to mpeg4 or something more generic than wmv
[00:32] <mechtech> kapipi: I'm always wary of onyone or anything asking me for info on the internet
[00:32] <funkywds> ^Phantom^: you have to install the w32codecs package
[00:32] <mechtech> ^phantom^ my bad
[00:32] <kapipi> mechtech: well the info isnt personal, but a hell of a lot of profiling questions
[00:32] <funkywds> http://fczaja.blogspot.com/2007/04/wmv.html
[00:32] <funkywds> ^Phantom^: http://fczaja.blogspot.com/2007/04/wmv.html
[00:33] <^Phantom^> Oh, I have that installed and can play .wmv files.
[00:33] <funkywds> yay
[00:33] <kapipi> mechtech: And I'm wondering if the sender isnt violating some rules on Ubuntu Brainstorm by contacting me (and probably a lot of other people) like that.
[00:34] <mechtech> kapipi: I would ignore it...let him profile someone else...perhaps he's trying to capture IPs and habits for hacking purposes (most likely unsecure ports etc...)
[00:34] <^Phantom^> It's just that this one is one of those "digital copy" files from a DVD movie I purchased last night.
[00:35] <syntax> I get no sound when playin 3gp files..how do i fix that and im on ubuntu linix
[00:35] <syntax> linux^
[00:35] <losher> kapipi: it's probably legitimate, a graduate student. Ubuntu Brainstorm seems like a perfect place to find subjects for innovation research. It *is* a bit cheeky though...
[00:36] <mechtech> kapipi: I don't know what the rules are for Ubuntu Brainstorm, but the activity seems suspicious to me
[00:36] <Faltzer> My mouse loses focus many times on applications and the clicks don't work a lot on Jaunty + GNOME
[00:36] <salmon> having a bit of a problem, so my old hard drive died, i got a new one, tried to install ubuntu 9.04 on it, didn work, said device not ready, so i burnt a new disc, still got the same thing. for some reason i got ubuntu studio to load, but studio is terrible. is there a way to turn ubuntu studio back to reg ubuntu
[00:36] <kapipi> mechtech: Indeed, I cant find anything about the survey anywhere, so Im going to skip on it.
[00:36] <mzz> !pastebin > dl
[00:37] <funkywds> salmon: try Linux Mint
[00:37] <mechtech> kapipi: good idea
[00:37] <funkywds> salmon: it's a slick, tweaked ubuntu variant.
[00:37]  * funkywds likes linux mint
[00:38] <mechtech> why would the operator for pastebin post please see my private message?
[00:38] <salmon> funkywds, i just want good old ubuntu. and im wondering how to unpack ubuntu studio to make it just standard ubuntu
[00:38] <mechtech> bot, not operator
[00:38] <mzz> mechtech: because I had it send a private message to dl
[00:38] <funkywds> salmon: well, that'll be a huge pain...
[00:39] <mechtech> mzz: from pastebin?
[00:39] <mzz> mechtech: no, about pastebin
[00:39] <funkywds> salmon: you would install the standard ubuntu packages and uninstall the sudio packages
[00:39] <mechtech> mzz: oh
[00:39] <mechtech> anybody know why synaptic is showing wine-gecko with a star on it?
[00:39] <LrdHelmet> what's a good way to get transparent windows?
[00:39] <salmon> funkywds, studio is weird, and nothing works right on it. that and im not sure how i would go about that anyway
[00:40] <^Phantom^> Oh oh.
[00:40] <salmon> funkywds, im willing to go through the process. i just don´t know how
[00:41] <losher> salmon: try again with 8.04.3 LTS...
[00:41] <funkywds> salmon: i see.  i only recomment Linux Mint because i've had it work in situations where Ubuntu doesn't since Linux Mint comes with proprientary, non-free drives available
[00:41] <funkywds> *drivers
[00:42] <Faltzer> My mouse loses focus many times on applications and the clicks don't work a lot on Jaunty + GNOME. I have the screensaver turned off and Compiz disabled as well, but to no avail. Is there a way I can figure out the culprit in this case?
[00:42] <salmon> losher, i have been trying my 8.04 disc, 9.04, and 8.10 discś all day with no luck
[00:42] <^Phantom^> I have a hard drive that i have backed up files on.  It's formatted as an NTFS drive.  Is it safe for me to organize those files from within ubuntu?  Or should I do that stuff from within windows?
[00:42] <salmon> funkywds, where do i find this linux mint and how much does it differ from ubuntu?
[00:42] <funkywds> ^Phantom^: past from withing windows, but it can be done in ubuntu
[00:43] <^Phantom^> is it safe, though?
[00:43] <losher> salmon: and yet studio worked? How odd. Different kernel? Anyone know?
[00:43] <trimeta> !ntfs3g | ^Phantom^
[00:43] <mechtech> ^Phantom^: ntfsprogs...in synaptic
[00:44] <mechtech> ^Phantom^: ntfs3g is also in synaptic
[00:45] <^Phantom^> okay, thankies
[00:45] <mechtech> ^Phantom^: under cross platform
[00:45] <salmon> losher, i think it has some serious diffs, because nothing really works on it. even some of the programs that come with it. and help you if you try to install anything new on it. flash doesn work at all. and all kinds of simple stuiff like that
[00:45] <Kimimaro> Alguém disponível para me ajudar?
[00:45] <losher> !br | Kimimaro
[00:46] <Kimimaro> #ubuntu-br
[00:46] <mechtech> losher: how did you know that was portuguese...I thought it was spanish and almost !spanish on it
[00:46] <losher> salmon: ok then, can you say more about what hardware you changed, and what exactly happens when you try booting 'regular' ubuntu?
[00:46] <trimeta> Kimimaro: Type "/join #ubuntu-br"
[00:46] <losher> mechtech: because I speak spanish :-)
[00:47] <Kimimaro> vlw! sorry
[00:47] <mechtech> losher: cool
[00:48] <salmon> losher, only thing that changed was the hard drive, went from a sea gate 80gb to a WD 160gb, nothing else changed, and when i try to install it the loader comes up, i select any of the options and the loading screen comes up, then i get a screen where it tells me that it failed and the device is not ready. then i get a spot where i can type with (initframs) preceding it. thats all really know
[00:48] <mechtech> does anyone know why wine-gecko has a star on it in synaptic?
[00:49]  * funkywds internets are funky today
[00:49] <salmon> losher, i had first thought it might be a problem with the new hard drive, but ubuntu studio installed fine
[00:49] <legend2440> mechtech: i think that means there is an upgrade available
[00:49] <losher> salmon: and why did you change the hard drive?
[00:49] <mechtech> salmon: look at the back of the drive, it seems that maybe you have the jumper set to slave, when it should be master, or cable select
[00:50] <mechtech> legend2440: thanks
[00:50] <salmon> losher, the old one died
[00:50] <abhirami> i ramanan, rediff.com business graphs  are not downloading.  It asks for shock wave player which was already installed in the system . How to correct it.
[00:50] <funkywds> salmon: to answer your question, Linux Mint *IS* ubuntu, just tweaked a bit to be more elegant and easier.  it also includes non-free proprietary drivers that ubuntu doesn't come with by default
[00:50] <salmon> mechtech, there is no jumper on the back of the drive, should i pull one off the old drive
[00:50] <funkywds> http:..linuxmint.com
[00:50] <funkywds> http://linuxmint.com
[00:51] <salmon> mechtech, plus i got studio to install so that doesnt make all that much sense to me
[00:51] <mechtech> salmon: yes
[00:51] <losher> salmon: the reason I ask is because maybe the drive didn't die. Maybe it's was the controller or something on the mobo? It still doesn't explain why studio installed though...
[00:52] <pianistbaby> hi guys, how can i see my daily bandwidth use (internet volume) on my ubuntu comp, in an easy, newbie-friendly way?
[00:52] <Cube> hey, i have a cron-scheduled script. its scheduled to run daily. so when will it be run? like its 1am right now. did it run already? ALSO: I WANT my bash script to wait till i have an internet connection till executing some commands. how can i do that?
[00:52] <mechtech> pianistbaby: system onitor
[00:52] <funkywds> losher: good call.  if his old drive didn't work, and the new one doesn't either, it's not the drives (prolly) that're the prob
[00:52] <mechtech> monitor
[00:53] <pianistbaby> mechtech: i have that. but i want something that logs it for every day.
[00:53] <mechtech> pianist: man interfaces
[00:53] <trimeta> Cube: I'm pretty sure cron-daily things run at 3 AM, but it's set somewhere in your cron stuff...look around your /etc/cron* things.
[00:53] <syntax> mint looks nice to
[00:53] <m3onh0x84> hi every body
[00:53] <trimeta> Cube: Yea, specifically look at /etc/crontab; that'll tell you when things in cron.daily are run.
[00:54] <funkywds> syntax: i've been running mint for a long time now.  it really smoothes out some of ubuntu's edges
[00:54] <funkywds> syntax: mintInstall is pretty great.  it's like Ubuntu's add/remove programs, but has screenshots, user ratings and reviews built into the app
[00:54] <m3onh0x84> I want to ask a question: I want to auto report bug to launchpad so not log in to web site ?
[00:55] <Cube> trimeta: ooh! perfect. thanks A LOT. (so if my computer is not running at 3am, it will wait till i start it up e.g. at 8am and the run the daily things??)
[00:55] <syntax> Thats nicee...Is it pretty stable?
[00:55] <m3onh0x84> because  sometime I disconnect
[00:55] <losher> funkywds: salmon: at this stage, I would still be concerned about your hardware. Run an overnight memtest, and also download & run the WD disk diagnostics....
[00:55] <funkywds> syntax: very.  as much as ubuntu
[00:55] <trimeta> Cube: I'm not sure...I think you may need to install anacron to do that. Though it may already be installed by default...
[00:55] <funkywds> losher: salmon: i concur
[00:55] <superGear> If you want stable you use slackware
[00:56] <trimeta> superGear: No, if you want stable you use Debian.
[00:56] <funkywds> trimeta: if you want stable, you use windows 95
[00:56] <trimeta> funkywds: My BSOD says otherwise. ;-)
[00:56] <losher> superGear: slackware isn't the only stable solution. Centos springs to mind. And the bsds....
[00:56] <kj> im a dj and im new to this OS im trying to find a dns and a way to download stuff
[00:57] <Scunizi> funkywds: stable is DOS 5.0
[00:57] <legend2440> pianistbaby: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html
[00:57] <mechtech> ubuntu is improved debian
[00:57] <pianistbaby> legend2440: thanks.
[00:57] <funkywds> Scunizi: lol
[00:57] <trimeta> Personally, I don't want stable, so it's all moot from my perspective.
[00:57] <m3onh0x84> :D
[00:57] <funkywds> trimeta: lol
[00:57] <Scunizi> funkywds: thought you might get a kick out of that :)
[00:58] <mechtech> kj: use google's dns, and try frostwire
[00:58] <felix_> FirstSgt, ty for help. reinstalling php solved. :P cya
[00:58] <superGear> If you want stable you use FreeBSD actually :P
[00:58] <funkywds> Scunizi: remember, win95 ran on DOS 6.0, 6.2, and 6.22
[00:58] <losher> trimeta: in that case we have lots of solutions for you :-)
[00:58] <trimeta> losher: I'm running Gentoo, so yea.
[00:58] <kj> ty mec and can i use Mirc on this OS?
[00:58] <samalex> yay, I'm about to order a System76 Pangolin Performance laptop :)  Anyone else using System76?
[00:58] <mechtech> supergear: the discerning user who wants stable buys a Mac
[00:58] <superGear> remember when Windows Me tried to hide its DOS
[00:58] <trimeta> kj: mIRC is Windows-only.
[00:58] <kj> ty
[00:58] <superGear> kj: you can use mIRC with WINE but why?
[00:58] <mechtech> kj: frostwire for windows
[00:58] <solexious|netbk> Does any one know if I have 2 dual dvi graphics cards on one system, can I output to 4 screens? (nvidia)
[00:59] <Scunizi> funkywds: yep.. remember win3.1? or even 3.0?  I use to run DOS 3-5 with no gui and a $400 300baud modem (Hayes)
[00:59] <kj> i ot a chat i goto on mirc
[00:59] <kj> unless i can get to it with this
[00:59] <trimeta> kj: There are lots of other IRC clients you can use on Linux.
[00:59] <Pay87> anyone who knows how to hide the mouse courser on the secondary screen when i am on the other screen?? using nvidia with compiz. seperate x screens.. ??
[00:59] <superGear> kj: xchat and konversation are good IRC alternatives
[00:59] <Greyfox> GOOD NIGHT !
[00:59] <guestadmin> Is there a way to undo a sudo mv command? Accidentally mispelled to folder and it created some unreadable non directory with the misspelled name, and some how my file inside of it
[00:59] <funkywds> Scunizi: i was a ms beta tester for 10 years.  i remember 1.0 and 2.0.  i then remember running back to my mac and wondering what the hell was wrong with those guys
[00:59] <superGear> mIRC =! IRC
[00:59] <kj> ty lol
[00:59] <Scunizi> funkywds: :))
[01:00] <trimeta> guestadmin: Well, you can just move it somewhere else...if you can't even type the name, though, you're kind of in trouble.
[01:00] <mechtech> LOL @ funkywds!
[01:00] <kj> im still trying to set up the wifi on this thing
[01:00] <funkywds> Scunizi: i'm a mac guy now, but i'm really into linux, too, esp debian/ubuntu variants
[01:00] <superGear> wicd
[01:00] <losher> guestadmin: can you tell us the *exact* mv command you mistyped?
[01:01]  * superGear hates mac fanbois
[01:01] <funkywds> Scunizi: but i'm looking forward to the day when some linux flavor can really give osx a run for the money
[01:01] <mindframe> im using ubuntu 8.04 and the login window is not popping up when I get past the boot process.
[01:01] <funkywds> Scunizi: but for everyone who doesn't have a mac, i recomment ubunut/linux mint
[01:01] <trimeta> funkywds: I'm betting on Ubuntu being the one to pull that off.
[01:01] <mechtech> mindframe: xserver not loading?
[01:01] <superGear> 9.04 is much better than 8
[01:01] <funkywds> trimeta: well canonical just announced that "osx is the one to beat"
[01:01] <Scunizi> funkywds: never played with mac.. got confused once when I was still MS-washed.  But we're seriously off topic.. #ubuntu-offtopic.. but I gotta go anyway.. cheers!
[01:02] <mindframe> mechtech, X is up, just no login window
[01:02] <mechtech> mindframe: do yo have a command prompt?
[01:02] <mindframe> mechtech, no it's at a gui with a mouse, just no login window
[01:03] <mechtech> mindframe: it booted directly to your desktop environment?
[01:03] <causasui> I have a USB hard drive that I want to use for computer repair service. If I partition it and copy the files from the ubuntu install ISO onto a partition, then install grub, will it work?
[01:03] <mindframe> mechtech, its not my DE.  no icons or toolbars
[01:03] <mindframe> just a screen with a mouse
[01:03] <trimeta> causasui: Probably better to do the USB install thing. Let me go remember how that works...
[01:04] <causasui> trimeta: I ask because I want to do it with some other ISOs as well, such as Hiren's bootCD
[01:04] <trimeta> causasui: Just copying things wouldn't work, because it wouldn't properly set up the boot loader.
[01:04] <causasui> trimeta: That's why I was going to install grub
[01:04] <mechtech> causasui: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-the-easy-way/
[01:05] <trimeta> To get Ubuntu to work, you can go to Sytem>Administration>USB Startup Disk Creator
[01:05] <causasui> All right, this will work for that one at least, but what about the other ISOs I want like Hiren? Can GRUB work with those?
[01:05] <mechtech> mindframe: seems like you might have hosed xserver
[01:05] <trimeta> causasui: If you want more than one, it gets confusing; I'm honestly not sure how to set it up reliably.
[01:05] <mechtech> mindframe: I'm gonna bow out now to someone with more knowledge
[01:06] <mindframe> mechtech, should i dpkg --reconfigure or remove and install?
[01:06] <mechtech> mindfram: remove and re-install...then reconfigure to get to where you were
[01:06] <mindframe> mechtech: what package name?
[01:07] <kj> i got a error with frostwire somthing about sunjava
[01:07] <axeus> I'm having some trouble with Gparted showing my disk as unallocated. I ran it from terminal and I got the error "Cannot have overlapping partitions.".. I just did a scan with Testdisk, does anyone see any overlapping partitions or anything? I'm not sure how to look for it lol. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2a028872
[01:07] <mechtech> mindframe: again...bowing out to someone with more knowledge...I would hate to hose your system further
[01:07] <mindframe> heh :)
[01:08] <Cube> trimeta: oh? well i have this ubuntuzilla script. it checks if i have the latest firefox. its a daily cron event. it also works when im not on at 3am ;)
[01:08] <Pay87> anyone who knows how to hide mouse cursor on separate x screens?
[01:08] <Cube> trimeta: how should i write a script so it waits until i have an internet connection?
[01:09] <trimeta> Cube: Hmm. Well, you could have it check for internet connection, and if not then sleep for 10 minutes and try again.
[01:09] <trimeta> That isn't using cron, though.
[01:09] <Cube> trimeta: yeah! how should i write that. the internet connection check i mean
[01:09] <Cube> (yeah im aware its bash not cron)
[01:10] <trimeta> Cube: I don't know, something fancy with ping and seeing if you're getting a response? Or check if you've got an IP address in ifconfig? Get creative.
[01:12] <Cube> trimeta: heh lol ok. btw if im on via wireless, it would still work with ifconfig right?
[01:12] <trimeta> Cube: Yea, ifconfig will tell you your IP address either way. It will be in a different-looking line, though, so if you're using grep to parse the output make sure you take that into account.
[01:12] <ferna56> Hi..everyone
[01:13] <trimeta> !hi | ferna56
[01:13] <Pay87> damn mouse cursor fu*ks ne up :D
[01:13] <ferna56> I'm having some problems with my ubuntu server installations.. version 8.04
[01:13] <trimeta> ferna56: Could you be more specific?
[01:14] <trimeta> I've got a couple of servers running Hardy, so I'll help if I can.
[01:14] <Cube> trimeta: im pretty new to bash actually. how should i write the whole IF clause, and how would i make it look for a ping response?
[01:14] <ZOMBE> Hello. Could I get some help with installing software?
[01:15] <ferna56> I was installing joomla, and ran the following command on the joomla directory.. sudo find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; and suddenly I lost access to everything..
[01:15] <ferna56> I could not even run an ls on the directory.. anymore..
[01:16] <ZOMBE> Could I get some help?
[01:16] <trimeta> Cube: Let's see..."ping -c 4 google.com" will try sending 4 packets to Google. You should get four responses that look like "64 bytes from yx-in-f100.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=70.3 ms"
[01:16] <mubu> Hey guys synaptic failed to install something and now i cant install any packagaes cause im told synaptic is already running. Can anyone tell me how to fix this? thanks
[01:16] <ferna56> the apache server went down.. the postfix server went down..
[01:17] <ZOMBE> Nobody can help me?
[01:17] <dataviruset> please help me - a quick one... what does if [ -z ... ] check in shell programming?
[01:17] <mubu> Anyone?
[01:17] <VCoolio> ZOMBE: just tell what you're installing and how, maybe someone has a suggestion
[01:17] <lillis> ZOMBE: List your problem instead of just asking
[01:17] <Cube> trimeta: alright kk. now :)?
[01:17] <ZOMBE> I am trying to install this file NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run and I can't figure out how to.
[01:17] <trimeta> ferna56: You're sure you were in the joomla directory when you ran that command?
[01:18] <ZOMBE> I looked up guides online and can't see mto find a helpful one I can understand.
[01:18] <trimeta> Cube: Now, ping -c 4 google.com|grep -qe "^64 bytes" will return with a 0 exit status if you have network connection, and a non-zero status if you don't.
[01:18] <Zxcvb> how do you compile a kernel for a 32 bit x86 system when you are on x86-64?
[01:18] <ferna56> yes I do... I have the putty screen just to make sure... I was there...
[01:18] <dataviruset> please help me - a quick one... what does if [ -z ... ] check in shell programming?
[01:19] <iceroot> trimeta: ping -c 4 host && echo 0     is much easier then yours
[01:19] <Cube> trimeta: gotcha! thats good. how do i form the IF clause though? lets say the command that it has to do if there is internet is "foo"
[01:19] <trimeta> iceroot: Ah, I wasn't sure if ping returned an appropriate exit status.
[01:19] <iceroot> trimeta: yes
[01:19] <trimeta> Though, will pinging host detect lack of internet connection, if net.lo is working?
[01:20] <ferna56> we rebooted and can't login... the server sends a message that says could not CD to home/username.. access denied...
[01:20] <losher> dataviruset: man test
[01:20] <kj> im trying to install a network manger for wirless and i cant do it i dont know how
[01:20] <GaMeStEr2665> Hello!
[01:20] <Cube> trimeta: hmm. lol.
[01:20] <Temlar_Xion> kj apt-get install network-manager
[01:20] <shell> kj, ubuntu has one built in
[01:20] <GaMeStEr2665> naked pics
[01:20] <GaMeStEr2665> ?
[01:21] <dataviruset> losher: big thanks to you :)
[01:21] <Cube> trimeta: cause see my problem is the script i have updates some status of me on the internet, right? now if it runs while i have no internet connection, it wont do anything
[01:21] <ferna56> we had to boot by GRUP and recovery mode right to the root prompt...
[01:21] <losher> ZOMBE: if I recall, it's a shell script. You have to kill your X11 server and then run it like so: sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run
[01:22] <dahlia> is there any gui like thingie for adding a 2nd disk and formatting it? I think I want to add a big reiserfs disk and I'm not sure of the best way to do it
[01:22] <kj> shell i cant get it to work
[01:22] <Doug_M> Hey everyone.. just to let you know im new to all Linux distro's.  I have always been a mac user but recently moved to florida and using a PC my mom gave me.  Im looking for a Linux distro to install and have been leaning towards Ubuntu.  My question is.. how hard is it to get used to?  I have been a mac user forever and just cant stand PC's.
[01:22] <freefm> Hi, I'm having a strange problem.  I'm trying to run FreeCAD, but when I run "./visual freecad8.im" (as the instructions state) I get the error "./visual: No such file or directory" even though "ls" lists the file "visual"
[01:23] <ZOMBE> I do sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run in my Terminal but all it says is "Can't open NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run" It's saved on my desktop, does that make a difference? I am 100% new to Linux, I used Windows since literally 3.1
[01:23] <losher> dahlia: gparted is probably the app of choice for that
[01:23] <dahlia> Doug_M, Ubuntu is probably the easiest distro I've ever used
[01:23] <iceroot> Doug_M: ubuntu is ok for beginners
[01:23] <lillis> ZOMBE: type ls -l
[01:23] <dahlia> ty losher, looking...
[01:23] <lillis> and tell me what it says about the NVIDIA file
[01:23] <ferna56> there are some lines on the bootup process trying to load some configuration files.. and guess.. permission denied...!
[01:23] <trimeta> Cube: Anyway, iceroot is right; just doing "ping -c 4 google.com > /dev/null" gives you the status as appropriate.
[01:23] <iceroot> Doug_M: and if yu can handle BSD, you can also handle ubuntu
[01:23] <fortunev> How do I enable Large File Support in Ubuntu?
[01:23] <losher> ZOMBE: you need to cd Desktop first
[01:23] <shell> you see the bar at the top of the screen at the right hand corner there is a icon that looks like stairs steeps
[01:24] <FrozenFire> Does anyone else experience constant stuttering with HD video on Youtube? I have an Intel 82945G/GZ graphics chipset.
[01:24] <lillis> ZOMBE: what string of letters is it? (like -rwx-----) or something like that
[01:24] <ZOMBE> losher: do you have a link to a guy that can tell me how to cd my dekstop?
[01:24] <trimeta> So if you want to sleep while you have no internet, you can do "while ! ping -c 4 google.com > /dev/null; do sleep 10m; done"
[01:24] <FrozenFire> It's not so much that the audio stutters, but rather that the video refuses to play smoothly
[01:24] <jdu> ZOMBE, you probably need to type: cd Desktop  first
[01:24] <soreau> Doug_M: You will like ubuntu. Many Mac lovers use linux and have helped make it easy to look like a Mac + better
[01:24] <trimeta> Though I'd check that before running it.
[01:24] <freefm> ZOMBE: "cd Desktop"
[01:24] <losher> ZOMBE: you literally type "cd Desktop"
[01:25] <Zxcvb> are there any kernel <IP_ADDRESS> packages for jaunty?
[01:25] <shell> FrozenFire, try reinstalling flash player
[01:25] <soreau> Doug_M: Also, ubuntu is most probably the best linux distro for a noob to linux because it caters to users
[01:25] <Doug_M> iceroot, dahlia, soreau: cool thanks guys... yeah im really looking forward to using it.  Prepairing to install it right now.  A few things I am worried about is using Ventrillo, and im a web developer so ill hav to find apps to use
[01:25] <ZOMBE> That worked, then when I did NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run it said bash: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run command not found
[01:25] <soreau> Doug_M: There is a LOT of support for it
[01:25] <FrozenFire> shell: It has happened under multiple installations. It's not an issue with my specific installation, beyond configuration
[01:25] <Cube> trimeta: wow wait. but how can i use that information that is now stored in a file?
[01:25] <lillis> ZOMBE: don't forget the sh before
[01:25] <freefm> ZMBE try ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run
[01:25] <dahlia> Doug_M, you can run it from the cd if you want to try it before installing it
[01:25] <lillis> or that freefm said :)
[01:26] <iceroot> Doug_M: for th important question, yes you can use photoshop with wine
[01:26] <shell> FrozenFire, ok i honastly dont know
[01:26] <iceroot> Doug_M: :)
[01:26] <soreau> Doug_M: Google what ever you need with keyword 'ubuntu' or 'linux' and if you can't figure it out, ask here or in ##linux
[01:26] <ZOMBE> I typed sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run and it started to work then I get a error must be run as root
[01:26] <ZOMBE> It's getting closer to working
[01:26] <dahlia> if I could only use 3ds max with wine :(
[01:26] <ferna56> can anybody ... help me.. please...
[01:26] <lillis> ZOMBE: running something as root requires typing "sudo" before and giving it your password
[01:26] <iceroot> !sudo | ZOMBE
[01:26] <freefm> ZOMBE, you're also going to turn off X
[01:26] <lillis> ZOMBE: like "sudo sh NVIDIA bla bla" and then enter your password
[01:26] <Cube> Doug_M: ventrillo will have a linux client very soon, but does not yet
[01:26] <Cube> Doug_M: check their website
[01:26] <Doug_M> cool thanks sorreau.. iceroot yeah i was looking at that... but after reading everything i have iv decided Ubuntu looks the best and i really just need to get rid of vista.. its pissing me off
[01:27] <Doug_M> cube - hey thanks ill look into it
[01:27] <trimeta> Cube: Put that line in a bash script; it should halt the script until you have internet access.
[01:27] <bieb> can I upgrade directly from 8.04 to 9.04?
[01:27] <ZOMBE> What lillis said work, now it tells me to turn off x. How can I go about that?
[01:27] <Cube> trimeta: ooh! ok
[01:27] <iceroot> Doug_M: not only you...
[01:27] <Cube> trimeta: put it on the very top right?
[01:27] <Pay87> how to hide a mouse cursor on secondary screen when i am on the primary???? :(
[01:27] <Doug_M> haha
[01:27] <freefm> ZOMBE, Write down the code first
[01:27] <iceroot> bieb: no
[01:27] <ZOMBE> Sorry, what do you mean by the code?
[01:27] <freefm> ZOMBE, Then sudo killall xorg
[01:27] <computer> hi i cant seem to be able to write to my hard drive. someone help please.
[01:27] <Doug_M> alright guys here i go.. im sure ill be here asking quesitons once i start the process
[01:27] <trimeta> Cube: Before the stuff you don't want to happen when you have no internet. But it needs to be after the #!/bin/bash line.
[01:28] <bieb> iceroot: how do I upgrade to 9.04 then?
[01:28] <lillis> ZOMBE: to install those drivers you need to not be using the graphical interface
[01:28] <Cube> trimeta: yeah. thanks :)
[01:28] <iceroot> bieb: 8.04 then 8.10 then 9.04
[01:28] <lillis> ZOMBE: so you'll have to type "sudo killall xorg" to kill the graphics user interface (i.e. the desktop)
[01:28] <lillis> ZOMBE: that will launch you back to a black and white text screen, there run the same thing
[01:28] <lillis> ZOMBE: sudo sh NVIDIA-etc-etc
[01:28] <ZOMBE> I get xorg: no process killed
[01:28] <Cube> trimeta: ima use facebook.com though
[01:28] <ZOMBE> I typed in exactly sudo killall xorg
[01:29] <Cube> just change address, right? nothing else?
[01:29] <guestadmin> found my solution here ;) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=744693
[01:29] <computer> hi i cant seem to be able to write to my hard drive. someone help please.
[01:29] <shell> so i got this great game tremulous but the graphic setting are not up to par and i honastly do not know what to do is there some sort of autoconfig like option?
[01:29] <freefm> So any ideas about my FreeCAD problem?
[01:29] <trimeta> Cube: Yea. Though do make sure to test the script before relying on it; try it both with the computer online and offline, to make sure it does what you think it should do.
[01:29] <freefm> Hi, I'm having a strange problem.  I'm trying to run FreeCAD, but when I run "./visual freecad8.im" (as the instructions state) I get the error "./visual: No such file or directory" even though "ls" lists the file "visual"
[01:29] <lillis> ZOMBE: hit ctrl+alt+F2 to come to the console (black and white text screen), login there and do sudo killall xorg
[01:29] <lillis> ZOMBE: and then the sudo sh NVIDIA--
[01:29] <bieb> iceroot: I have tried apt-get upgrade and it tells me no new release is available
[01:29] <iceroot> !upgrade | bieb
[01:30] <lillis> bieb: you need to update your lists first, apt-get update
[01:30] <lillis> bieb: and upgrade after that
[01:30] <iceroot> lillis: wrong
[01:30] <lillis> iceroot: maybe i should read more than the latest line
[01:30] <lillis> (:
[01:30] <freefm> lillis: that can be dangerous
[01:30] <ZOMBE> Even in the black screen I get xorg: no process killed. I logged in, password, typed sudo killall xorg
[01:30] <iceroot> lillis: he wants to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 and then 9.04
[01:31] <VCoolio> ZOMBE: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[01:31] <mechtech> why does torrentreactor.net not show me the search cloud anymore?
[01:31] <lillis> ZOMBE: try killall Xorg
[01:31] <lillis> capital X
[01:31] <Cube> trimeta: ok. i will. thanks!
[01:31] <jdu> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop is the correct way to stop xorg
[01:32] <jdu> not that it really matters I guess
[01:32] <Cube> hah ok
[01:32] <Cube> it doesnt wait
[01:32] <lillis> jdu: good point though :)
[01:32] <Cube> it just keeps going ;)
[01:32] <ZOMBE> Same thing, no process killed
[01:32] <Cube> trimeta: it doesnt wait
[01:32] <lillis> ZOMBE: see what jdu wrote
[01:33] <lillis> ZOMBE: I'm impressed, most new Linux users would've given up by now and reinstalled XP :)
[01:33] <mechtech> zombe: ps ax ...see if it is in the list
[01:33] <trimeta> Cube: Try removing the exclamation point and seeing if that helps.
[01:33] <lillis> There we go
[01:33] <lillis> :)
[01:33] <freefm> mechtech: drivers can suck in windows too
[01:34] <kj> my usb is not working thays why my wirless is not working
[01:34] <Cube> trimeta: in #!/bin/bash?
[01:34] <kj> sorry to asking alot of stuff
[01:34] <trimeta> Cube: No, in the "while ! ping -c 4 google.com > /dev/null; do sleep 10m; done" line.
[01:34] <dahlia> ty losher gparted worked great :)
[01:34] <mechtech> freefm: I would have to agree...I remember when ATI first released the radeon line...nightmare!
[01:34] <mechtech> kj: ask away
[01:34] <SFW> anyone having internet connection problems relating to dns?
[01:34] <losher> dahlia: cool...
[01:35] <kj> how would i get my usb to work
[01:35] <iceroot> SFW: no
[01:35] <fortunev> Sorry for the repeat. I am trying to use vobcopy with the -l to make one large vob file. I got an error that file is greater than 2G. Does Ubuntu have Lage File Support? How do I enable it?
[01:35] <dahlia> now... is there an easy way to copy all the files from one partition to another? I can do it with tar but I winder if there is a gui thingie
[01:35] <mechtech> kj: what device...or all devices?
[01:35] <Audica> Hi everyone, I'm dualbooting Win7 and Ubuntu, I recently re-installed win7, and it overwrote whatever GRUB is saved to, so now I cannot select my linux partition. is there any way to get this back?
[01:35] <KB1JWQ> SFW: Yes.  Your DNS problems have broken the internet for everyone.
[01:35] <dahlia> *wonder
[01:35] <KB1JWQ> dahlia: rsync
[01:35] <kj> none of my usb ports are working how would i update them?
[01:35] <sebsebseb> !grub  |  Audica
[01:36] <kj> and its a wireless card im trying to get to work
[01:36] <mechtech> Audica: was just going to say that
[01:36] <mechtech> kj: usb wireless card?
[01:36] <Audica> gracias.
[01:36] <SFW> KB1JWQ: there is a serious problem affecting 9.04 users
[01:36] <kj> yes
[01:37] <ThreeNertia> Wow, there's so many people in here
[01:37] <mechtech> kj: man interfaces, and ifwconfig
[01:37] <ana> hello , ubuntu mid edition with usb-key ...install in ALL hard drive? no partitions? thank you.
[01:38] <ThreeNertia> Anybody in here ever tried to use a Sony DRU-830A usb dvd burner in Ubuntu?
[01:38] <KB1JWQ> SFW: Which would be what, exactly?
[01:38] <fortunev> ThreeNertia: was that your elbow in my ear? :)
[01:38] <kj> where do i find them?
[01:38] <mechtech> anyone know why torrentreacotr.net no longer shows me the search cloud?
[01:38] <kj> im a noob
[01:38] <iceroot> mechtech: maybe wrong channel
[01:39] <mechtech> iceroot: yeah...sorry
[01:39] <iceroot> ThreeNertia: where should be the problem using it?
[01:39] <SFW> recent updates over the weekend have been disabling internet after rebooting (seems to be limited to 9.04 32-bit i386 users)
[01:39] <ThreeNertia> Well, I inserted a music cd into. It pops up and puts an icon on my desktop. But in Properties it says it's not mounted
[01:39] <ThreeNertia> I would like to mount it to a specific directory
[01:40] <ThreeNertia> But it's got a path of cdda://sr1
[01:40] <mechtech> kj: open a terminal window and type man interfaces
[01:40] <kj> tyty
[01:40] <ana> hello , ubuntu mid edition for notebooks with usb-key ...install in ALL hard drive? no partitions posible? thank you.
[01:40] <mechtech> kj:  ifwconfig is a command line utility for configuring a wireless card
[01:40] <KB1JWQ> SFW: And this is DNS based?
[01:40] <KB1JWQ> SFW: Restarting networkmanager doesn't fix it?
[01:40] <ThreeNertia> No idea what it's under in /dev
[01:41] <billenium> is there a command i can run to change apt-get repos to universal or things of that such?
[01:41] <MarcoDFW> hello to all, I have problems sharing folders between Ubuntu 9.04 and Win XP
[01:41] <mechtech> ana: is it telling you no partitions are possible, or are you asking if you can install to a drive with no available linux partitions?
[01:41] <MarcoDFW> does any one experienced this probelm
[01:41] <trimeta> billenium: You probably want to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[01:42] <ThreeNertia> Would it be /dev/sr1 ?
[01:42] <Seracht_> hi
[01:42] <SFW> KB1JWQ: yes... can ping ip but not domains, stops updates... hundreds of posts in the forums all describing the same problem
[01:42] <billenium> trimeta: probably, but i hate doing that through CLI :P
[01:42] <Seracht_> anyone here know if the setuid invariant bug is fixed or not
[01:42] <mechtech> !ntfs3g | MarcoDFW
[01:42] <trimeta> billenium: Ah, you want a GUI frontend. System>Adminstration>Software Sources
[01:42] <billenium> i'm SSHing
[01:42] <KB1JWQ> SFW: Which package update specifically?
[01:43] <MarcoDFW> actually I have installed samba and my win can not see my ubuntu share folder
[01:43] <trimeta> billenium: If all you've got is a command prompt, you may be forced to use a CLI to modify the sources.
[01:43] <mechtech> MarcoDFW: also ntfsprogs...both of which are available in synaptic package manager under cross platform
[01:43] <SFW> KB1JWQ: we're trying to narrow down what is causing it
[01:43] <MarcoDFW> let me try that
[01:43] <MarcoDFW> thabnks
[01:43] <dahlia> ty KB1JWQ rsync seems to be doing it :)
[01:43] <msds1502> can someone help me with a GRUB loader issue?
[01:43] <billenium> Yeah, nano isn't installed by default, and i suck with vi... and i need to edit sources.list with vi to be able to install nano.
[01:43] <billenium> CRUEL IRONY!
[01:43] <ana> Hello, wetchtech, I ask if it is possible to install ubuntu mid edition in a partition, have 3 partitions, but install in usb-key ubuntu mid edition and take-off with usb-key and he(she) me warns that DESTRUIRA ALL MY DISC I LAST, and I do not want to destroy everything
[01:43] <KB1JWQ> SFW: Is it depopulating /etc/resolv.conf?
[01:43] <jdolan> does anyone know how to make Evolution not show "email folders" like .bashrc?  lol.
[01:43] <ThreeNertia> Oh well
[01:44] <trimeta> billenium: Really? Nano isn't in the default repos?
[01:44] <jdolan> what a piece.
[01:44] <mechtech> billenium: pico
[01:44] <KB1JWQ> dahlia: Yeah, it's good like that.
[01:44] <Max-Headroom> hello
[01:44] <billenium> pico nor nano
[01:44] <mechtech> LOL@ max-headroom
[01:44] <KB1JWQ> billenium: Nano's more widespread, same thing.  I use vim.
[01:44] <mechtech> billenium: use pico
[01:44] <mechtech> I do
[01:44] <VCoolio> billenium: if you know the line you can do "echo deb blah >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:44] <msds1502> Can someone help me with a GRUBloader issue?
[01:44] <billenium> Hmm, i have to find what all the sources are firist i guess
[01:45] <SFW> KB1JWQ; it's not resolv.conf as far as i remember, we've been trying to figure out how to fix it
[01:45] <kj> mechteck may i pm you?
[01:45] <mechtech> msds1502: what is the issue with grub loader?
[01:45] <lillis> msds1502: List your problem and somebody will help if they can.
[01:45] <mechtech> kj: sure
[01:45] <ThreeNertia> You *nix folks are definately a knowledgeable bunch
[01:45] <KB1JWQ> SFW: Define we.
[01:45] <msds1502> I have 3 operating systems installed at this moment
[01:45] <MarcoDFW> Thanks MechTech the problem is my windows can not seen my ubuntu shares not the opposite, If I connect the ubuntu to my router works? but using the wifi does not
[01:45] <billenium> er, how do i save in vi?
[01:45] <msds1502> I was wondering if I can have the Windows 7/Vista bootloader come first install of the GRUB loader
[01:46] <davertron> billenium: shift+zz
[01:46] <msds1502> instead** not install
[01:46] <ThreeNertia> billenium: :wq
[01:46] <KB1JWQ> SFW: All right, put this to a pastebin:  cat /etc/resolv.conf; dig @<IP_ADDRESS> www.google.com; getent hosts www.google.com
[01:46] <Pay87> found the solution for the mouse prob here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/357901
[01:46] <max-headroom> blah windows 7 and vista
[01:46] <lillis> msds1502: do you want to switch bootloader from GRUB to another one?
[01:46] <mechtech> MarcoDFW: ok...I thought you were trying to get access to ntfs files on the same drive, or at least the same computer...sorry
[01:46] <lillis> msds1502: or do you want Vista to autoboot?
[01:46] <trimeta> msds1502: That's mentioned in the wiki page as well.
[01:46] <MarcoDFW> not this is driving crazy
[01:46] <max-headroom> no more bad ones operating system you can't find
[01:46] <billenium> ThreeNertia: i think i have to hit something before :wq
[01:47] <davertron> so i have ubuntu desktop installed, and i'm running the machine as a headless server now; what can i get rid of to basically have an ubuntu-server install?
[01:47] <Doug_M> join #linux
[01:47] <ThreeNertia> Esc
[01:47] <ana> i have two OS too now but ubuntu mid edition no posible in partition? all hard drive?
[01:47] <billenium> thanks :)
[01:47] <lillis> davertron: xorg to begin with
[01:47] <ThreeNertia> Glad to be able to help, makes me feel good
[01:47] <ThreeNertia> Since I'm technically just a newb
[01:47] <davertron> i'm guessing i can get rid of gnome
[01:47] <lillis> davertron: yes
[01:47] <davertron> lillis: any other big packages i could drop?
[01:47] <billenium> ThreeNertia: thanks for telling me that D: I feel like a Mac user now...
[01:47] <MarcoDFW> 3 computers , 2 ubuntus and 1 windows... the unutus can see each other fine http, samba, ssh but windows can not see the ubuntu 9.04 the other ubuntu is 8.10 and works fine serving windows
[01:47] <davertron> lillis: if i dump gnome, will it dump things like firefox and things like that as well?
[01:48] <ThreeNertia> lol
[01:48] <lillis> davertron: gnome, gdm, xorg, firefox, openoffice etc.. but really the big issue is making sure that a lot of useless programs run in the background, like sound daemons etc
[01:48] <msds1502> So i boot up my computer and it goes into GRUB, giving me the option to boot Ubuntu (in various modes) or go to the Vista/Windows Loader.  I would like the Vista loader to come first and give the option of going into the Ubuntu/GRUB loader
[01:48] <MarcoDFW> this is driving crazzzy
[01:48] <lillis> davertron: no you'll have to do it manually
[01:48] <ThreeNertia> Thanks for the ego-boost XD
[01:48] <MidasManchu> I have a variety of network drives which I have bookmarked in gnome.  I'd love to be able to download/open files directly to these bookmarks, but they don't appear in the file dialog boxes.  Any idea how I can fix this?
[01:48] <davertron> mmmm
[01:48] <davertron> lillis: ok
[01:48] <KB1JWQ> msds1502: Edit menu.lst and change the default.
[01:48] <davertron> lillis: thanks :)
[01:49] <lillis> davertron: remove big packages and especially gdm which auto-boots xorg, and then make sure you have the proper daemons running and ports open
[01:49] <ana> ..ohh
[01:49] <lillis> that's atleast what i'd focus on.. but I'm not a linux whiz ;)
[01:49] <davertron> lillis: i'm using ssh right now, that's how i get into the box
[01:49] <msds1502> where does it list the Default?
[01:49] <davertron> i've been running it "headless" for awhile
[01:49] <lillis> davertron: ah :) well then
[01:49] <davertron> it used to be a media server but i just want to use it as a server/dev box
[01:50] <davertron> i've also been running into a weird issue where, after a day or so, i can't ssh into my box anymore
[01:50] <davertron> it won't respond to pings either
[01:51] <MarcoDFW> 3 computers , 2 ubuntus and 1 windows... the unutus can see each other fine http, samba, ssh but windows can not see the ubuntu 9.04(wifi) the other ubuntu is 8.10(wired) and works fine serving windows, any ideas
[01:51] <davertron> i have to power cycle it
[01:51] <davertron> not sure what's going on with that but
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> davertron:  thats why i put heads on my headless servers..
[01:51] <ThreeNertia> Can anybody tell me why Pidgin won't connect? Aside from the fact, I'm on dial-up. It should be slow, but it shouldn't take forever
[01:51] <davertron> haha
[01:51] <davertron> touche!
[01:51] <davertron> :)
[01:51] <smxy> Quick question: I'm a UNIX/Linux SysAdmin. The only Linux I've used is RedHat/CentOS. I suddenly find I need to administer Ubuntu systems and they are alien to me. Can you point me at a resource that might help me QUICKLY apply what I  know to Ubuntu so I can come up to speed fast?
[01:51] <msds1502> KB1JWQ: what default are you talking about?
[01:51] <nanotube> Dr_Willis: they kinda stop being "headless servers" after you do that, don't they? :)
[01:51] <domina> Hey, shockwave flash is going really slow/choppy (more of a not really going much at all), can't watch youtube or anything. Anyone know how to fix that? I have the latest version installed...
[01:52] <davertron> nanotube: details details :p
[01:52] <nanotube> davertron: heh
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> nanotube:  i just neer turn on the monitors. :)
[01:52] <KB1JWQ> msds1502: In that file, there's a default set; I may be mistaken and it's grub.conf
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> nanotube:  ive had to many problems with 'headless' machines in the past.
[01:52] <nanotube> Dr_Willis: ah, that's ok then. hehe
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> nanotube:  i saw 15 inch lcd monitors for $99 on sale lately. :)
[01:53] <Doug_M> Are there any web developers here who are running ubuntu?  If so.. what apps do you prefer?  I don't need a WYSIWYG editor just a text / code based one.
[01:53] <msds1502> Someone said there was a section about this in the Wiki?
[01:53] <nanotube> Dr_Willis: yea, they're getting pretty cheap these days.
[01:53] <mechtech> kj: who made the card...see your PMs
[01:54] <nanotube> Doug_M: i like geany and scite
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> geany is nice.
[01:54] <davertron> Doug_M: vi :)
[01:54] <nanotube> !grub
[01:55] <nanotube> !grub | msds1502
[01:55] <Doug_M> nanotube - thansk ill look into them
[01:55] <nanotube> msds1502: probably that grubhowto page will have a tutorial exactly for what you're looking for in there somewhere
[01:55] <ThreeNertia> nanotube: Is that your bot?
[01:55] <nanotube> Doug_M: np, have fun :)
[01:55] <Ziber> 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (2a01:450:10:1::10)]
[01:55] <nanotube> ThreeNertia: nope, i don't run the bot
[01:56] <Ziber> Why would it just sit there?
[01:56] <nanotube> ThreeNertia: why?
[01:56] <ThreeNertia> Just wondering if anyone can issue commands
[01:56] <ThreeNertia> !help
[01:56] <ThreeNertia> lol
[01:56] <ThreeNertia> Been awhile since I was on IRC
[01:56] <smxy> Which I did. :)
[01:56] <nanotube> ThreeNertia: hehe
[01:57] <nanotube> !hi | ThreeNertia
[01:57] <ThreeNertia> !commands
[01:57] <ThreeNertia> How do you get a list of ! commands?
[01:57]  * ThreeNertia test
[01:57] <ThreeNertia> Kewl
[01:58] <ThreeNertia> !list
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> !lost :)
[01:58] <KB1JWQ> ThreeNertia: Help you with something?
[01:59] <msds1502> I'm having a hard time finding exactly what I need on that page..
[01:59] <aleksio> hi2all, changed fstab with something like 'defaults,noatime,data=writeback' in root sector. after reboot the system does not booting normally: it just mount / like r-o. how I can make changes back?
[01:59] <smxy> I see that the default runlevel is 2 X is running. What is the non-X runlevel and how do I configure the system to use that instead? (Aside from init at the comand line)
[01:59] <KB1JWQ> msds1502: Pastebin your grub.conf
[01:59] <ThreeNertia> KB1JWQ: Several things, actually
[01:59] <smxy> ...2 and X ...
[01:59] <domina> Does anyone know how to make flash run properly? New computer, isn't slow, neither is the internet, but youtube and other flash won't/barely play. I looked online for help and made sure I had the newest version and that quicktime wasn't interfering and stuff, but I still can't get it going...
[02:00] <SFW> KB1JWQ: a few of us on the forum are rechecking resolv.conf, it didn't solve my problem and have since reinstalled 9.04
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> smxy:  there is no non-x runlevel. If you dotn want GDM to start disable the GDm service
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> smxy:  ubuntu has gotten away from the runlevels sort of thinking that most other disrtos use.
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> !runlevel
[02:00] <msds1502> KB1JWQ: How can i get to my grub.conf? :-\
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> !sysv
[02:00] <smxy> ok
[02:00] <ThreeNertia> Why won't Pidgin connect
[02:00] <ThreeNertia> !Pidgin
[02:00] <KB1JWQ> !botabuse
[02:00] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: connect to what?
[02:01] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: yahoo? etc
[02:01] <smxy> and the corresponding command to RH's chkconfig command is?
[02:01] <ThreeNertia> Yes
[02:01] <smxy> I need to turn off all non-essential services
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> I need to track down a good Ubuntu Runlevels/init system for beginners guide. the 'upstart' pages are for more advanced ussage
[02:01] <ThreeNertia> It just sits there "Waiting for network"
[02:01] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: just a sec, I know the solution
[02:01] <ThreeNertia> I know dial-up is slow, but it shouldn't take forever
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> smxy:  use some of the various 'sysv' init tools to mange whats running .
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> smxy:  no idea what 'chkconfig' does.
[02:02] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: http://www.pidgin.im/download/
[02:02] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: you need to install the latest version from that site
[02:02] <KB1JWQ> msds1502: It should be in /boot or /etc
[02:02] <smxy> adds/removes the links in the /etc/rc.d directories fr each runlevel
[02:02] <losher> Dr_Willis: apparently neither do the ubuntu developers, either...
[02:02] <ThreeNertia> I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling
[02:02] <msds1502> you don't want the menu.lst?
[02:02] <ThreeNertia> Didn't work
[02:02] <ThreeNertia> I'll try it again, though
[02:02] <KB1JWQ> msds1502: Both.
[02:02] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: yahoo changed their server security settings. Did you update after you did that?
[02:03] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: in pidgin click help> about
[02:03] <brandonmpace> tell me the version number
[02:03] <ThreeNertia> Is there some sort of auto-updating
[02:03] <ThreeNertia> Or is there a command I need to issue or ?
[02:03] <brandonmpace> just go to System>Administration>Update Manager
[02:04] <brandonmpace> and check for updates
[02:04] <ThreeNertia> Ahhh
[02:04] <ThreeNertia> Must be blind, lol
[02:04] <ThreeNertia> Thanks
[02:04] <msds1502> KB1JWQ:  http://paste-bin.com/view/c51c42bb    menu.lst
[02:04] <losher> smxy: I think you can download & install a version of chkconfig for ubuntu. Might be unsupported though...
[02:04] <brandonmpace> It should update to 2.5.8
[02:05] <ThreeNertia> Now I just gotta figure out how to mount my usb Sony dvd burner to /mnt/Sony
[02:05] <smxy> Oh, I'd rather learn the proper ubuntu method
[02:05] <losher> smxy: when you see what the 'proper ubuntu method' is, you might reconsider...
[02:05] <smxy> haha
[02:06] <smxy> yes, all flavors of unix and linux are so different from each other
[02:06] <ThreeNertia> For being essentially the same, anyway
[02:06] <KB1JWQ> msds1502: Set default to 6 or 7; I'm not sure offhand; might ask in #grub
[02:06] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: it automounts when you put media in it
[02:06] <ThreeNertia> It says it's not mount
[02:06] <ThreeNertia> And it's path is cdda://sr1
[02:07] <zsolt> http://www.shareapic.net/content.php?gid=683390&owner=uri_geller
[02:07] <ThreeNertia> I want it to mount to /mnt/Sony
[02:07] <brandonmpace> did you put a blank disc in?
[02:07] <smxy> I read about update-rc.d but the man page says admins should not use that and should use sys-rc-conf or bum instead. A man of either produced nothing though
[02:07] <ThreeNertia> No, it's an audio cd
[02:07] <brandonmpace> ah
[02:07] <losher> smxy: check out man update-rc.d
[02:07] <smxy> see what I just said :)
[02:07] <msds1502> #grub is pretty sparse :(
[02:07] <viagrastim> can anuone help ?
[02:08] <phil__> whats your problem?
[02:08] <KB1JWQ> !ask | viagrastim
[02:08] <phil__> sorry i was away
[02:08] <viagrastim> i try to install utorrent in wine it dont work
[02:08] <ThreeNertia> brandonmpace: Is there something I'm missing, or not understanding?
[02:08] <losher> smxy: told you you'd reconsider. It's a mess...
[02:08] <smxy> :)
[02:08] <smxy> so that *is* the command I should use then?
[02:09] <smxy> or should I just go into rc2.d and start deleting links like in the old days?
[02:09] <losher> smxy: bum is an installable app. I've never used it myself. apt-cache search bum
[02:09] <sebsebseb> !torrent |  viagrastim
[02:09] <KB1JWQ> viagrastim: For one, I'd advise using something *nix native for bittorrenting.  If you insist on utorrent, you might want to clarify "doesn't work."
[02:09] <sebsebseb> viagrastim: it should work in wine
[02:09] <brandonmpace> idk, if you open rhythmbox does it show up?
[02:09] <sebsebseb> !work |  viagrastim   KB1JWQ
[02:09] <ThreeNertia> Yes, it all works fine
[02:10] <KB1JWQ> sebsebseb: I'm aware, that's why I was asking him for clarification. :-p
[02:10] <VCoolio> smxy: chkconfig is in the universe repo
[02:10] <ThreeNertia> I just want to actually mount to a directory that can be messed with
[02:10] <phil__> @viagratism
[02:10] <brandonmpace> why do you want it to mount to /mnt/sony?
[02:10] <phil__> pm me
[02:10] <ThreeNertia> As /mnt/Sony
[02:10] <brandonmpace> ah
[02:10] <sebsebseb> KB1JWQ: well I sent to both of you
[02:10] <viagrastim> yeah
[02:10] <smxy> I don;t even know what the universe repo is :) But I suppose I'll find out. :)
[02:11] <VCoolio> smxy: but a howto on ubuntuforums I read this week works with manually installing; universe repo can be enabled in synaptic
[02:11] <losher> !repo
[02:11] <losher> smxy: see ubottu links above...
[02:11] <ThreeNertia> I miss broadband
[02:11] <sebsebseb> VCoolio: system > administaration > software sources  and then enable it
[02:11] <ThreeNertia> 2 hours to download Pidgin
[02:11]  * ThreeNertia cries
[02:12] <smxy> tyvm :)
[02:12] <phil__> @threenertia
[02:12] <ThreeNertia> !games
[02:12] <phil__> why!
[02:12] <jdoghacker>  hey everyone go to  jfiles.net78.net its a network security consulting and ethical hacking im testing ip adresses for free right now
[02:12] <sebsebseb> smxy: see above at how I said to enable repo
[02:12] <ThreeNertia> Dial-up
[02:12] <aleksio> hi2all, changed fstab with something like 'defaults,noatime,data=writeback' in root sector. after reboot the system does not booting normally: it just mount / like r-o. how I can make changes back?
[02:12] <smxy> ok
[02:12] <riz0n> Is it possible to set up Ubuntu as an Active Directory Domain Controller?
[02:12] <phil__> threenertia: thats a bummer
[02:12] <ThreeNertia> 2 kb/s
[02:12] <sebsebseb> !dialup |  ThreeNertia
[02:12] <ThreeNertia> If I'm lucky
[02:13] <KB1JWQ> riz0n: Mostly. :-p  That's more of a samba question
[02:13] <ThreeNertia> 1.6 at the moment
[02:13] <ThreeNertia> Especially when you're used to 10 mb/s
[02:13] <user10> /msg nickserv identify me
[02:13] <ThreeNertia> I'm connected via dial-up
[02:13] <inruin> hello all
[02:13] <sebsebseb> ThreeNertia: ok
[02:13] <riz0n> KB1JWQ: That's what I figured. I want to set up and mimic an active directory domain controller so I dont have to get Windows Server 2003. Do you have more info?
[02:13] <ThreeNertia> Using wvdial
[02:13] <ThreeNertia> Because kppp won't work
[02:13] <ThreeNertia> !kppp
[02:13] <inruin> do you know anything about gparted?
[02:14] <ThreeNertia> Ewww, lag
[02:14] <ThreeNertia> Must be the download
[02:14] <sebsebseb> !gparted |  inruin
[02:14] <ThreeNertia> Lagging me more than usual :'(
[02:14] <smxy> universe appears to be enable already
[02:14] <inruin> I tryed to sudo it but i installed ubuntu from a flash drive and windows has taken up most all of the partition
[02:15] <ThreeNertia> Would I first have to uninstall Pidgin to re-install the newer version? Or would it just overwrite the old one?
[02:15] <VCoolio> smxy: ok, then install chkconfig if you like
[02:15] <inruin> I dont hhave enough room to dl it on ubuntu
[02:15] <smxy> doing that now
[02:15] <inruin> can I do it from vista?
[02:15] <sebsebseb> !install | inruin
[02:16] <sebsebseb> !dualboot |  inruin
[02:16] <ThreeNertia> !automate
[02:16] <LrdHelmet> hey, anybody use Rhythmbox here?
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> inruin:  vista I think has its own tools to resize ntfs partitiosn.. or boot linux from a live cd and use gparted that way.
[02:16] <inruin> great thanx!
[02:16] <VCoolio> smxy: you may like this link (lists a lot of the things loaded during boot and what can be left out): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> inruin:  backup any imporntant stuff BEFOR resizing
[02:16] <smxy> tyvm
[02:17] <inruin> ok thank you willis
[02:17] <ThreeNertia> Why is Firefox-3.5 called Shiretoko?
[02:17] <ThreeNertia> !Shiretoko
[02:17] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  ThreeNertia
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> Thats the Top Secret code name. :)
[02:18] <smxy> VCoolio: that link is very useful. Thank you.
[02:18] <ThreeNertia> !jaunty
[02:18] <sebsebseb> inruin: and if you re sizing Vista really it should resize itself, or dataloss can happan
[02:18] <ThreeNertia> Is the bot ignoring me
[02:18] <ThreeNertia> Not even bots like me :*(
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> inruin:  yea. vista and win7 both have  very good 'resizeing' features/tools that work faster then the linux ones.
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> ThreeNertia:  it answered you.
[02:18] <sebsebseb> !info |  ThreeNertia
[02:18] <ThreeNertia> Wow
[02:19] <ThreeNertia> I hate dial-up
[02:19] <ThreeNertia> All this lag
[02:19] <sebsebseb> ThreeNertia: why did I do info hmm
[02:19] <VCoolio> smxy: yep, found and used it this week, helped a little (but removing readahead as it strongly suggests broke my boot so I set that back)
[02:19] <sebsebseb> !bot |  ThreeNertia
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> so if we all talk real fast. ThreeNertia  will get disconnected?
[02:19] <sebsebseb> ThreeNertia: people have to trigger the bot see, otherwise yes, it ignores  people
[02:19] <inruin> great yeah I checked it out
[02:19] <ThreeNertia> !info jaunty
[02:19] <smxy> ok, good to know
[02:19] <inruin> hahah
[02:20] <smxy> I'm stripping this system down to the minimum so I can make it an iptable firewall/router.
[02:20] <shadow420> I am trying to get a friend online with ubuntu 9.04
[02:20] <novalys> Can anyone help me out with a video issue (Second Monitor in the VGA slot of my laptop not working?)
[02:20] <smxy> iptables*
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> novalys:  always state your video chipset in such questions also. :)
[02:20] <ThreeNertia> Dr_Willis: Probably
[02:21] <mustardstache> trying to install desktop ubuntu with a RAID 1, anyone have advice on how to prepare partitions?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> novalys:  ive used the 'xrandr' tools to activate the 2nd monitor befor and tweak it.. also  you did try the special hotkeys to enable teh external monitor?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> !raid
[02:21] <ThreeNertia> !info jackalope
[02:21] <ThreeNertia> Iptables is a bitch to learn
[02:21] <shadow420> I am trying to get a friend online with ubuntu 9.04 but it's not connecting shes trying to connect to the web using a cable modem
[02:22] <novalys> This is the chipset" Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[02:22] <smxy> I'm very familiar with iptables. Been using it for years. :)
[02:22] <chiques> does anyone use skype around here?
[02:22] <mustardstache> thanks!
[02:22] <smxy> But you are correct. They are a bitch to learn. :)
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> with things like iptables.. leran the basics.. build up your knowledge. :)
[02:23] <novalys> It's a VAIO laptop, it doesn't have any special key for enabling the second monitor... :(
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> now Regular Expressions.. thats fun to learn.
[02:23] <psycho__kitta> wasssup!
[02:23] <Mike_lifeguard> Dr_Willis: unbelievably useful
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> novalys:  i would check again VERY closely.. ive never seen a laptop that didenthave some key combo for that.
[02:23] <smxy> I hate regex, lol
[02:24] <ThreeNertia> !info jackalope
[02:24]  * ThreeNertia pokes his modem
[02:24] <inruin> ok need a little help
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> Regular expressions.. its like leraning a whole new language.. :) then theres the dozen+ dialects..
[02:24] <ThreeNertia> Ouch, I just got flooded
[02:24] <psycho__kitta> i got a question
[02:24] <smxy> perl, sed, grep, anything that uses them, uses them differently
[02:24] <novalys> Hehe I know right.. but it's true, its a vaio fw170j, only FN keys available are Mute, Brightness up/down, Zoom up/down and sleep.
[02:24] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I have Evolution consolidate all my emails from a few accounts into the "on this computer" folders?
[02:24] <psycho__kitta> i play RuneScape and i cant play in HD even though i have a nvidia gfx cardx
[02:24] <ThreeNertia> Perl regexs are too bad
[02:24] <ThreeNertia> Yeah
[02:24] <ThreeNertia> That's the problem
[02:25] <ThreeNertia> I had a Sony Vaio
[02:25] <ThreeNertia> Till someone stepped on it :*(
[02:25] <inruin>  have 4 partitions an eisa partition, Acer c: partition, a 2.53 gb partition and a 174 mb partition
[02:25] <ThreeNertia> !sed
[02:25] <novalys> Actually now that I tried... even when Fn + F7 doesnt have any label on it.. when pressed the desktop does like a blink..
[02:26] <psycho__kitta> is any1 gonna help me *getting angry*
[02:26] <KB1JWQ> ThreeNertia: Any chance you could pick the bot's brain in a PM instead of in the channel? :-)
[02:26] <losher> smxy: awk, vi, ed...
[02:26] <ThreeNertia> Wish I could have my actual nickname
[02:26] <Flannel> ThreeNertia: Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting, keep this channel for Ubuntu support.  Thanks.
[02:26] <smxy> yup and the list goes on
[02:26] <Seracht> anyone here know waht the setuid invariant is?
[02:26] <inruin> if i shrink the acer partition will more space show on the partition to the left or right of it or do I manually allocate the extra space?
[02:26] <ThreeNertia> Ouch
[02:27] <losher> Seracht: the 'setuid invariant'?
[02:27] <Seracht> yes
[02:27] <Seracht> it's a bug of sorts
[02:27] <novalys> Dr_Willis: Just to know how can I use the xrandr tools? on the output im getting this: VGA disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) but im possitive it's connected..
[02:27] <Seracht> in the old linux kernel (specifically v 2.4)
[02:27] <psycho__kitta> hi
[02:27] <psycho__kitta> who are you
[02:27] <ThreeNertia> If anyone was helping me, I wouldn't just be aimlessly chatting (>.<)
[02:27] <ThreeNertia> Later
[02:28] <inruin>  have 4 partitions an eisa partition, Acer c: partition, a 2.53 gb partition and a 174 mb partition
[02:28] <losher> Seracht: you mean as in 'setuid Demystified'
[02:28] <Seracht> yes
[02:28] <inruin>  which is ubuntu?
[02:29] <Seracht> yes
[02:29] <Seracht> is the invariant still in there
[02:29] <syntax> =testing out linux mint on the pc
[02:29] <inruin> and if i shrink the acer partition can i allocate it manually ?
[02:29] <Mike_lifeguard> iron: you can probably tell by what the partitions actually are. ubuntu is probably an ext3 partition
[02:29] <Flannel> !mintsupport | syntax
[02:30] <inruin> ok ill check lifeguard thanks
[02:31] <losher> Seracht: sorry, not the faintest idea. You probably need to ask on a developer and/or kernel channel...
[02:31] <losher> !kernel
[02:31] <Flannel> psycho__kitta: Do you have sun java installed? and the nvidia drivers from nvidia?
[02:32] <losher> Seracht: try #ubuntu-kernel
[02:33] <Seracht> thanks losher will try it
[02:33] <LiquidMeson> anyone have any experience with grub2 here?
[02:33] <LiquidMeson> is there a ubuntu dev room?
[02:33] <losher> LiquidMeson: I thought grub2 never actually made it out into the real world...?
[02:33] <weemo> IM GONAN CUM IN THIS CHANNEL AND DEFECATE
[02:33] <Flannel> LiquidMeson: #ubuntu+1 is the place for support for Karmic
[02:33] <LiquidMeson> i'm using grub2 right now
[02:34] <LiquidMeson> Flannel: Thanks
[02:34] <weemo> ban yourself
[02:34] <weemo> yo u can go get face in my anus
[02:34] <Flannel> weemo: Please stay on topic and watch your language.  Thanks.
[02:34] <weemo> no
[02:34] <weemo> die please
[02:35] <Seracht> pathethic
[02:35] <urthmover> I'm having trouble finding good docs for connecting an iphone2Gv3 to jaunty 64  anyone have some good docs?
[02:35] <losher> I particularly liked the admonishment to 'stay on topic'...
[02:36] <Seracht> losher you know if anyone is ever active in #ubuntu-kernel
[02:36] <Pricey> Seracht: they are
[02:37] <psycho__kitta> flannel:yes
[02:39] <losher> Seracht: many less populated channels are much quieter than this one & operate on a much longer time scale e.g you post a question and then wait, possibly for a day or longer, for people to check for messages. You yourself can check the archives for replies http://irclogs.ubuntu.com without having to stay logged in permanently. It's non-real-time IRC...
[02:40] <troythetechguy> I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 as host.  Is it better to install VirtualBox from repos, or .deb from VirtualBox site?
[02:40] <fenix^_^> ÇëÎÊ Ò»¸öÎÊÌâ
[02:41] <nanotube> troythetechguy: repos have the ose edition. if you don't need USB passthrough, use the repos.
[02:41] <nanotube> troythetechguy: if you do need usb, add the official virtualbox ubuntu repo, and then still use the repo. :)
[02:41] <losher> !cn | fenix^_^
[02:41] <troythetechguy> nanotube: Thank you.
[02:42] <funcky1> how do i name a hidden network so that i can connect to it in Wicd?
[02:42] <nanotube> troythetechguy: see this page for official virtualbox non-ose repos: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[02:42] <fenix^_^> sorry
[02:42] <nanotube> troythetechguy: np :)
[02:43] <fenix^_^> i want install g77 in ubuntu 9.04 . but it seem : g77-3.4 (>= 3.4.6)
[02:43] <overclucker> i installed non-ose only to later notice that i don't even use the parts available only from non-ose
[02:45] <MrPiracy> can grub be installed on a fat16 partition?
[02:45] <afdasdfklja> greetings everyone. I have installed ubuntu server and sound works just fine when I'm not in X. when I'm in X, for some reason aplay -l says  no soundcards found. any clues ? google does not say much about xorg and audio.
[02:45] <tonsofpcs> afdasdfklja: pulseaudio ?
[02:45] <msds1502> when i try to edit menu.lst i get this message: You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[02:45] <psycho__kitta> guyz
[02:45] <msds1502> how do I fix that?
[02:46] <troythetechguy> When using 8.04 I would type "vim filename" at command line to open editor, but in 9.04 vim file name says "vim not found".   Is VIM not included in 9.04, or was the VIM command in 8.04 a link to VI?
[02:46] <oldude67> msds1502, try putting sudo first
[02:46] <funcky1> hello all. here's a tough one for you: how do i name a hidden network so that i can connect to it in Wicd?
[02:46] <afdasdfklja> tonsofpcs, I'll check into that thx
[02:46] <lstarnes> msds1502: what are you using for editing it?
[02:46] <tonsofpcs> troythetechguy: sudo apt-get install vim   will install it
[02:46] <msds1502> lstarnes: gedit
[02:46] <tonsofpcs> i think it's default a symlink to vi but installing it installs vim
[02:47] <troythetechguy> tonsofpcs: Thank you.
[02:47] <lstarnes> msds1502: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:47] <lstarnes> msds1502: don'
[02:47] <psycho__kitta> sudo apt-get install getalifeandgetfucked
[02:47] <lstarnes> msds1502: er, don't use sudo for that, use gksudo
[02:47] <msds1502> because of permissions?
[02:47] <DougM> What is a good HTML editor for Ubuntu?  I do not need a WYSIWYG editor at all.. just text/code based.  Iv been told two Geany and Scite.  Anyone have any experience with them?
[02:48] <lstarnes> msds1502: graphical applications shouldn't be used with sudo, partly due to its environment handling
[02:49] <overclucker> i used scite briefly, but eventually opted for vim/gvim
[02:49] <funcky1> hello all. here's a tough one for you: how do i name a hidden network so that i can connect to it in Wicd?
[02:49] <th0r> funcky1: click on the arrow next to Network and choose Hidden Network
[02:50] <UnholyLessons> how do i uninstall KDE? i dont like the way it looks or works
[02:51] <th0r> UnholyLessons: uninstall kde-desktop should do it
[02:51] <msds1502> When i'm at the GRUB loader screen, it gives me the option for "Other Operating systems" on one line and on the next it lists Windows XP.  When I edit 'default' in menu.lst does "other operating systems" count as an option?
[02:51] <UnholyLessons> command not found
[02:51] <lstarnes> UnholyLessons: the command for removing a package is sudo apt-get remove packagename
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> msds1502:  yes it does.. and the # starts at 0
[02:52] <losher> msds1502: I believe it does, because it's a hack to make it display...
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> msds1502:  i always remove that 'other' line anyway.. and just move windows to the top if i want to default to it.
[02:52] <gramps> nb
[02:52] <msds1502> What happens if i set timeout  to 0
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> msds1502:  it will do the default  setting with no menu i think
[02:53] <UnholyLessons> E: Couldn't find package kde-desktop
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  its 'kubuntu-desktop'
[02:53] <LiquidMeson> exit
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  so install the package 'kubuntu-desktop'
[02:53] <VCoolio> Dr_Willis: he's trying to get rid of it :)
[02:53] <UnholyLessons> i am uninstalling it, i prefer gnome
[02:53] <overclucker> haha
[02:54] <qiyong> does ubuntu have a full DVD?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  why bother.  there a factoid on removing  the kde desktop packages also.
[02:54]  * richardcavell has been playing Half-Life
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> !puregnome | UnholyLessons
[02:54] <overclucker> you know, that you don't have to remove it to revert back to gnome
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> qiyong:  'full' meaning what? theres a dvd installer disk. but it just has more languages on it mainly.
[02:54] <cola> i need help with ati radeon x1650 and ubuntu 9.04
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  you do know the LOGIN manager screen has a menu to select kde or gnome. or other window managers you got installed?
[02:54] <UnholyLessons> i just want to get rid of the HUD
[02:54] <Evet> goodnight
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  HUD?
[02:55] <UnholyLessons> i know but i dont want a logon manager window at all
[02:55] <qiyong> Dr_Willis: means pkgs + source pkgs, i have a site no intterenet connection
[02:55] <UnholyLessons> HUD lol...sorry im in the military.
[02:55] <computer> how do i make VLC PLAYER my default media player without having to right click every single file type...????
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  set the login manager to auto login....
[02:55] <UnholyLessons> where is login manager
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  in the settings menus
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> sytesm -> admin - > login window
[02:56] <mgroman> |ohmy | Dr_Willis
[02:56] <UnholyLessons> it says GDM is not running and wont open
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  if you are running KDE.. then that makes sence...
[02:56] <overclucker> oh, lol
[02:57] <UnholyLessons> i just removed KDE though
[02:57] <losher> UnholyLessons: one thing at a time. Remove kde first....
[02:57] <overclucker> i forget the kde-equevalent
[02:57] <UnholyLessons> ok
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm    to tell it to set to use gdm
[02:57] <computer> how do i make VLC PLAYER my default media player without having to right click every single file type...????
[02:57] <UnholyLessons> ok i reconfigured it
[02:58] <losher> computer: you google 'ubuntu default media player' and read the first link
[02:58] <overclucker> ugh, i hate totem
[03:00] <DougM> Hey.. i juts installed Ubuntu about half an hour ago for the first time.  If anyone could help me with this question thatd be awesome.. what im trying to do is install flash so I can watch videos embedded with flash online.  I tried installing it but it keeps giving me an error saying "Could not open "adobe-release-1386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm" archive type not supported."  Anyone able to help me?
[03:00] <overclucker> eh
[03:00] <overclucker> prn >> redhat
[03:00] <overclucker> i mean rpm >> redhat
[03:00] <richardcavell> DougM: You're trying toinstall the wrong thing
[03:00] <richardcavell> DougM: a .rpm file is for Red Hat Linux and its derivatives
[03:00] <overclucker> deb >> ubuntu/debian
[03:01] <richardcavell> DougM: Do you know what the Synaptic Package Manager is?
[03:01] <DougM> no.. im sorry im relaly new
[03:01] <DougM> really*\
[03:01] <richardcavell> DougM: Go to System Menu then Administration > then to Synaptic Package Manager
[03:01] <richardcavell> see it?
[03:02] <funcky1> b
[03:02] <DougM> ok got it
[03:02] <overclucker> DougM, waht yo uwant to do is pick a package manager to familiarize yourself with, and let it do all the heavy lifting
[03:02] <supercom32> gparted has so many partition table options. Can someone explain them to me? I suppose MSDOS is used almost in all cases?
[03:02] <richardcavell> DougM: Now, Doug, install everything through that
[03:03] <richardcavell> Don't download files from the Internet.  Install everything through that
[03:03] <rapt0rjezuz> I would really appreciate any help anybody can give, my mouse will freeze up randomly and the only way i can fix is it restart my computer. im on ubuntu 9.04
[03:03] <richardcavell> DougM: Okay?
[03:03] <DougM> what is a good one to pick.
[03:03] <richardcavell> supercom32: yeah
[03:03] <DougM> i take it i click on one of the items to the left then find the package on the right?
[03:03] <richardcavell> DougM: Within Synaptic, search for flashplugin-installer
[03:03] <DougM> ok one second
[03:03] <overclucker> DougM, the adobe flash plugin is a little tricky to install
[03:04] <DougM> ok i did that and it came up with 4
[03:04] <richardcavell> DougM: On the left side go to "All".  Then for "Quick search" type in flashplugin-installer
[03:04] <overclucker> DougM what happens, is you install an installer for flash plugin . . .
[03:04] <DougM> hamradiomenus, ax25-xtools, xdx, and preditc-gsat
[03:04] <Saruji> hello, when I try and install a GDM Theme, I get an error message that reads: This theme will not look as intended bc the required GTK+ theme engine 'ubuntulooks' is not installed
[03:04] <Aayush> how to find which version of gtk is currently installeds in my computer
[03:05] <richardcavell> DougM: Type flashplugin-installer into Quick search.  Select "All" on the left hand side
[03:05] <thiebaude> Saruji, is it installed?
[03:05] <Saruji> thiebaude: how do I find out?
[03:05] <thiebaude> Saruji, in synaptic
[03:05] <DougM> richardcavell: oh ok.. there is a lot more now.  Which one should i look for?
[03:05] <DougM> im sure ill see it
[03:05] <richardcavell> DougM: flashplugin-installer
[03:05] <thiebaude> Saruji, do a search for ubuntulooks
[03:06] <overclucker> DougM, from a console: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin -y; sudo /tmp/adobe*
[03:06] <justinmiller87> Why would one pick flashplugin-installer over adobe-flashplugin from the partner directory?
[03:06] <thiebaude> Saruji, i had that happen to me before
[03:06] <Evelina> I have a problem with wakeonlan. When I halt the computer by the remote command sudo halt it turn into halt mode. The strange is that if I wait for only a copule of minutes then wakeonlan works just fine, but if I wait 10-20 minutes the wakeonlan doesn't work any longer, why?
[03:06] <richardcavell> justinmiller87: I'd advise him to install ubuntu-restricted-extras anyway
[03:06] <Aayush> how to find which version of gtk is currently installeds in my computer
[03:06] <DougM> richard i found it under the package list
[03:06] <rapt0rjezuz> I would really appreciate any help anybody can give, my mouse will freeze up randomly and the only way i can fix is it restart my computer. im on ubuntu 9.04
[03:06] <richardcavell> DougM: Okay do you also have ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[03:07] <Saruji> thiebaude: I found it in synaptics, but when I select it, it reads "to be remove" and one of them is ubuntu-desktop, should I trust this?
[03:07] <Flannel> richardcavell: flashplugin-nonfree is a transitional package, the package has been moved to flashplugin-installer
[03:07] <Evelina> Why doesn't wakeonlan work if I wait 10-20 minutes when it works if I wait only 1-5 minutes?
[03:07] <richardcavell> DougM: If you install ubuntu-restricted-extras then you get flash and a whole bunch of other things.
[03:07] <thiebaude> Saruji, no dont remove
[03:07] <Saruji> rapt0rjezuz: what type of mouse do you have?
[03:07] <justinmiller87> I usually use the comprehensive multimedia thread off the forums to do all my media-related stuff.
[03:07] <DougM> im not sure.. i just installed Ubuntu like half an hour ago
[03:07] <DougM> its installing hte flash plugin right now
[03:07] <thiebaude> Saruji, give me 1 sec
[03:07] <Saruji> thiebaude: right I know, then I wont have a desktop...ok thank you
[03:07] <alfa_> hi
[03:08] <richardcavell> DougM: From now on install everything through Synaptic, okay?
[03:08] <DougM> ok cool
[03:08] <DougM> hey thanks a lot for the help i really appreciate it
[03:09] <richardcavell> DougM: no problem
[03:09] <losher> DougM: Also, spend the rest of your life reading https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/index.html
[03:09] <richardcavell> DougM: I suggest installing ubuntu-restricted-extras then you get a bunch of other useful things too
[03:09] <DougM> alright ill look into that
[03:09] <DougM> haha thanks losher ill take a look
[03:09] <Saruji> thiebaude: maybe this is the problem, its a 8.04 theme
[03:11] <thiebaude> Saruji, i also tried to install that in the terminal and it says the same as in synaptic
[03:11] <Aayush> how to find which version of gtk is currently installeds in my computer
[03:11] <Saruji> Aayush: I currently have the same question
[03:11] <jrib> Aayush, Saruji: why?
[03:12] <ray66> Ubuntu Hardy I cannot get cairo-dock -o to start at boot even when added to sessions...
[03:12] <Saruji> jrib because I think that the theme I'm using is using an older version of gtk
[03:12] <thiebaude> Saruji, slightly different problems
[03:12] <jrib> Saruji: erm, what theme?
[03:12] <losher> Aayush: Saruji: from a terminat, type gtk-config --version
[03:12] <Saruji> jrib ubuntu hardy black
[03:13] <jrib> Saruji: what's the issue?
[03:13] <Saruji> thiebaude: ok any ideas?
[03:13] <Saruji> losher: thank you
[03:13] <thiebaude> Saruji, i trying to think of a work around
[03:13] <Aayush> jrib, when i try to install glade3 it shows gtk version >= 2.14 required
[03:14] <Saruji> jrib after installing reads This theme will not look as intended bc the require gtk+ theme engine 'ubuntulooks' is not installed, but after I go to install it, synaptics tries to remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:14] <jrib> Aayush: is glade3 not in the repositories?
[03:14] <Saruji> thiebaude: thank you
[03:14] <jrib> Saruji: hod did you "got to install it" exactly?
[03:14] <jrib> s/got/go
[03:15] <Saruji> jrib drag into the appearance windows the .gz file
[03:15] <thiebaude> Saruji, np
[03:15] <jrib> Saruji: did you say you tried to install "ubuntulooks"?  How exactly did you try?
[03:15] <Saruji> jrib through synaptics
[03:16] <DougM> Should it be hard to get Ventrillo running on Ubuntu?  Im gonna start looking at it online but just wondering if anyone here has done it
[03:16] <thiebaude> jrib, and also i tries the apt-get install method
[03:16] <thiebaude> tried
[03:16] <jrib> Saruji: pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks
[03:17] <huey23> i am having a problem installing a couple of packages...libdb4.3-dev, libdbd-mysql-perl, and libapache-dbi-perl.  has anyone ran into this and if so, how did you fix it?
[03:17] <jrib> huey23: pastebin the command and output
[03:17] <thiebaude> huey23, what kind of errors?
[03:17] <Saruji> jrib i ran the command and it asked me to install gtk2-engine-ubuntulooks
[03:18] <Saruji> jrib i hit yes installed you still want the output?
[03:18] <losher> DougM: I thought the linux client for Ventrillo isn't released yet...
[03:18] <jrib> Saruji: I wanted to see the output before "yes" but ok show all of it (including your command)
[03:18] <Saruji> jrib wow the message is gone
[03:18] <Saruji> k
[03:18] <jonex> any command line to open the volume console?
[03:18] <jrib> Aayush: still with me?
[03:19] <jrib> jonex: alsamixer?
[03:19] <Saruji> jrib i forget how do i output to a log file?
[03:19] <jrib> Saruji: just highlight with your mouse, copy and paste
[03:19] <jonex> i want to turn my volume up
[03:19] <jrib> !pastebin | Saruji
[03:19] <jonex> i d k how
[03:19] <jonex> in Ubuntu Studio
[03:19] <jrib> jonex: try alsamixer or just double click on the speaker icon
[03:19] <DougM> losher: thats what i am seeing.  I did notice someone online talking about using "wine" to install it.  Again im really new to Ubuntu (about an hour now haha) so i have no idea what they are takling abut but im going ot look into it
[03:19] <jonex> i dont have speaker icon
[03:20] <Aayush> jrib, when i install glade from repo it install 2.12 , may be i should hav install glade3
[03:20] <huey23> http://pastebin.com/m3f231bf5
[03:20] <jrib> jonex: right click on your panel -> add to panel -> volume control, or use alsamixer in a terminal
[03:20] <overclucker> alsamixer -V all
[03:20] <losher> DougM: wine is a linux application that lets your run *some* (but by no means all) windows apps under Ubuntu.
[03:20] <mataks> where can i find the boot log? everytime i reboot my pc i see sumthing error it's firmware bug or sumthing..
[03:21] <jrib> Aayush: right, there should be a package called "glade-3"
[03:21] <DougM> losher: hmm im going to look into it. See what I can come up with beacuse Ventrillo is something i somewhat need but if i cant get it i cant get it
[03:21] <losher> mataks: does it show up in the dmesg output?
[03:21] <jonex> thank!
[03:21] <jonex> I <3 U ALL!!!!!
[03:21] <Evelina> wakeonlan stops working after some time (10-20 minutes) but before that it works, why?
[03:22] <xim_> is it possible in ubuntu, like in windows with an autorun.inf file, to set a custom icon that is used for a cd or external drive when it is automatically mounted?
[03:22] <bumblebee> spotify is too good on ubuntu
[03:22] <huey23> if i run apt-get install libapache-dbi-perl by itself, it wants to install
[03:22] <RPG_Master> Stupid totem isn't letting me seek through movies that are in a mkv container :(
[03:22] <jrib> !pastebin | huey23
[03:22] <mataks> losher,  what's dmesg? im just new to linux.. it shows up after the ... starting linux .................. kernel .....                 then the error
[03:22] <huey23> http://pastebin.com/m3f231bf5
[03:22] <huey23> http://pastebin.com/m3f231bf5
[03:22] <Saruji> does anyone know the website to paste my output?  It lists all recent kernel messages...
[03:23] <overclucker> use videolan-client, or mplayer
[03:23] <Saruji> jrib http://pastebin.com/m302d28a1
[03:24] <mataks> losher,  ok wait
[03:24] <Saruji> jrib looks like it removed ubuntu-desktop
[03:24] <RPG_Master> I have been using VLC, but I messed with some setting to do with QT4 and now it crashes as soon as it loads up :(
[03:24] <jrib> huey23: maybe you want: libdbd-mysql-perl
[03:24] <jrib> !apt > huey23
[03:24] <RPG_Master> I shouldn't been messing with it seeing as how I am using GNOME...
[03:25] <jrib> Saruji: weird, what happens if you try to install them again explicitly?
[03:25] <Saruji> jrib like go back into synaptics and install ubuntu-desktop?
[03:26] <huey23> jrib: i put libdb-mysql-perl in and it comes with the output in the pastebin
[03:26] <overclucker> haha, why not?  i love tinkering, just remember what you tinkered with and it's all good
[03:26] <jrib> Saruji: install the 3 packages that were removed, yeah
[03:26] <jrib> huey23: you are making a typo.  Compare what you are typing to the package name I said
[03:26] <mattgyver[L]> Firefox takes a while to load pages on my ubuntu desktop however my laptop running the same, and other network machines do not. Its as if its behind a proxy, anyone know what i can check?
[03:27] <huey23> jrib: gotcha, what about libdb4.3-dev and db4.3-util?
[03:27] <mataks> losher,  i found the firmware bug.. here.... "[Firmware Bug]: powernow-k8: Your BIOS does not provide ACPI _PSS "
[03:27] <RPG_Master> overclucker: I shouldn't have been messing with QT4 settings when I am using GNOME which uses GTK :(
[03:27] <kleedrac> OK I installed Wine but it couldn't run the application I wanted so I installed cxover office but I'm pretty sure Ubuntu is still associating a ./*.exe back to /usr/bin/wine instead of the cxover version ... any way to correct this?
[03:27] <losher> mataks: I've no idea what that means. Start googling :-)
[03:28] <DougM> What do people here use as a music application.. i always used iTunes as i was  mac user but looking to see what other people use.
[03:29] <RPG_Master> DougM: SONGBIRD!
[03:29] <jrib> huey23: apt-cache search -n libdb dev; apt-cache search -n db util
[03:29] <thiebaude> RPG_Master, you beat me to it
[03:29] <DougM> RPB_master.. hey thanks.  Ill look it up right now
[03:29] <overclucker> DougM, vlc, songbird mpg123, mpg321
[03:29] <RPG_Master> thiebaude: :P
[03:29] <thiebaude> lol
[03:29] <DougM> haha
[03:29] <DougM> thanks guys
[03:30] <overclucker> mpg123 plays mp1-3's
[03:30] <overclucker> nearly all i ever use anymore
[03:30] <huey23> that'll do, 4.2, 4.4, and 4.7 :P  no 4.3
[03:30] <kleedrac> overclucker: I agree with you but these kids want their GUI's ;)
[03:30] <huey23> thanks jrib
[03:30] <overclucker> phht
[03:30] <RPG_Master> :P
[03:31] <kleedrac> I'm not saying it's a bad thing ... just different is all
[03:31] <Saruji> jrib ubuntu-desktop has installed successful and ubuntulooks is still installed, does this mean that everything is fine now and desktop will be there after restart?
[03:31] <overclucker> i thought screen gnome-terminal was a gui
[03:31] <RPG_Master> I am kinda partial to GUIs :)
[03:31] <jrib> huey23: no problem
[03:31] <overclucker> hehe
[03:31] <DougM> im not really concerned about the GUI i just need something to play my music
[03:31] <dfd> someone in Brazil?
[03:31] <rudi_> real men use w3m
[03:31] <DougM> looking at songbird right now
[03:31] <thiebaude> !pt
[03:32] <jrib> Saruji: there were two other packages removed, install them as well
[03:32] <overclucker> XMMS is also very nice
[03:32] <RPG_Master> What makes songbird really stand out is its add-ons
[03:32] <Saruji> jrib ok
[03:32] <thiebaude> pandora
[03:32] <coleys> RPG_Master: SONGBIRD SUCKS.
[03:32] <RPG_Master> coleys: :O
[03:33] <overclucker> lol, what really stood out to me is that it took months of google searching for media players befor ei found it
[03:33] <gartral> !attitude | coleys rudi_
[03:33] <RPG_Master> coleys: what do you use?
[03:33] <coleys> gartral: EAT MY BOX
[03:33] <kleedrac> Seriously though how can I tell Ubuntu to prioritize one version of wine over another?
[03:33] <coleys> RPG_Master: Amarok :)
[03:33] <DougM> ok this may sound really dumb but stick with me.. im at the page to download songbird my question is.. how do i tell if im using Jaunty, Intrepid, or Hardy? haha again stick with me!
[03:33] <gartral> coleys: one more and i call ops in
[03:33] <Saruji> jrib hmm I went to install the others and it showed ubuntu-desktop as not install, so I tried to install it and it read that gtk2-engine-ubuntulooks has to be removed
[03:34] <overclucker> DougM, try installing it from ubuntu repo
[03:34] <coleys> gartral: I could not care lesss.
[03:34] <rudi_> what did i do lol
[03:34] <RPG_Master> I kinda like amarok... but its all QT and stuff...
[03:34] <overclucker> DougM, like from sysnaptic
[03:34] <coleys> RPG_Master: qt > gtk :)
[03:34] <overclucker> aramok is a pain for newbies to setup
[03:34] <RPG_Master> coleys: :P
[03:34] <DougM> overclucker: i searched in Synaptic but it didnt find it
[03:34] <losher> DougM: open a terminal and type:  cat /etc/issue & tell me what it says
[03:34] <DougM> k
[03:35] <RPG_Master> DougM: go to www.getdeb.net and search for Songbird
[03:35] <overclucker> DougM, wow, i never noticed it wasn't in the repo!
[03:35] <DougM> losher: its saying no such file or directory
[03:35] <coleys> RPG_Master: Or... get: http://linuxmint.com (Has... Featured applications which include songbird, skype, etc...) I Don't use it, but definitly recommend it ;)
[03:35] <DougM> RPG_Master: cool ill check it out thanks
[03:35] <thiebaude> overclucker, yep, its never been in synaptic, i wish they would put it in
[03:35] <losher> DougM: you mistyped. Try again: cat /etc/issue
[03:36] <casinaroyale> What groups does it mean with respect to the bug #83137 "pulseaudio not in group pulse-rt"? How to see these groups?
[03:36] <qe2eqe> Is there an easy way to check out what kind of  traffic is going on what ports?
[03:36] <RPG_Master> And then download and install the all (3 I think) deb files
[03:36] <DougM> losher: haha your right.. it says "Ubuntu 9.04 \n \J (or its an L.. cant tell)
[03:37] <losher> DougM: you are running ... drumroll... Jaunty
[03:37] <DougM> losher: haha thanks.. good thing? bad thing? doesnt matter thing?
[03:37] <gartral> i cant get sound out of xmms2.. logs seem too point at playing through alsa, config says OSS... the OSS route should be the working one
[03:37] <stroyan> kleedrac:  Have a look at the update-binfmts command
[03:37] <losher> DougM: doesn't really matter....
[03:37] <DougM> losher: haha k thanks for the help
[03:38] <RPG_Master> DougM: Kinda good, mostly doesn't matter though
[03:38] <overclucker> yeh, haha isn't songbird a java package?
[03:38] <coleys> songbird is crap, straight up.
[03:38] <RPG_Master> NO! its a deb
[03:38] <DougM> RPG_Master: alrighty.. im gonna go to that link and see if i can install Songbird
[03:38] <losher> coleys: we heard you. Go back to sleep...
[03:38] <Saruji> jrib still there?
[03:39] <coleys> losher: You can eat my box too!
[03:39] <RPG_Master> what kinda box is it?
[03:39] <RPG_Master> :P
[03:39] <overclucker> coleys, it has a fairly clean layout, and a large set of extensions
[03:39] <losher> coleys: unlikely, but please keep it civil & g-rated
[03:39] <samtihen> mpd + gmpc ftw
[03:39] <kleedrac> stroyan: Thanks - looking into it now
[03:39] <thetimewarp> Hey, who can I talk to if I have a question about using ubuntu?  I'm kind of a n00b and I can't get flash to work.
[03:39] <coleys> losher: MY box is g-rated get out of the gutter!
[03:40] <coleys> mpd ;) or... amarok...
[03:40] <coleys> or banshee.
[03:40] <bastidrazor> to mount a folder from another ubuntu box on LAN i would?
[03:40] <coleys> is the way to go, songbird is a ram eater.
[03:40] <RPG_Master> I like banshee more then amarok :P
[03:40] <overclucker> never said it wasn't
[03:40] <RPG_Master> but to each his own :)
[03:40] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, did you install flash-installer from the wizard not the other flash implementations?
[03:41] <coleys> RPG_Master: Exactly the way I feel, im entitled to my oppinion too ;) losher and gartral should respect itttt. :)
[03:41] <overclucker> i have a gig of ram, and will likely never throttle it with songbird
[03:41] <Fezzler> I have a 17.3 MB PDF file.  Can I load it in a Ubuntu program and reduce its size?
[03:41] <thetimewarp> hyperionx:  I installed it with Wine from the flash website
[03:41] <losher> bastid_raZor: ...configure nfs on the client & the server, then nfs mount the folder on the client
[03:41] <coleys> Anyways, im off. *wew*
[03:41] <TwoToneSpirit> I get "connection closed" with vinagre localhost despite everything in vino-preferences looking OK.
[03:42] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, i dont think you need wine for flash?!? there is native player.... goto system->administration->synaptic... search for flash-installer and install that
[03:43] <RPG_Master> Oh, back to my problem. How do I get VLC to go back to its original settings with out actually using its setting manager?
[03:43] <bastidrazor> losher, i've been mounting it via the GUI via places>connect to server .. i'm looking to mount it automatically on boot.
[03:43] <overclucker> thetimewarp, installing flash in wine will allow you to use flash in wine apps
[03:43] <RPG_Master> Is there a config file I can delete or edit?
[03:43] <Saruji> what is the "make link" option?
[03:43] <Saruji> and how can I use it to link to a particular path?
[03:43] <thetimewarp> hyperionx, okay thanks, let me get on that.. and overclucker, that explains why it wasn't working haha
[03:44] <losher> bastid_raZor: I believe that uses samba, an alternative to nfs. Nothing wrong with that, but someone else will have to advise you
[03:44] <overclucker> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer; sudo /tmp/adobe*
[03:44] <genii> Fezzler: ghostscript has pdfopt  which can crunch a pdf down in size some.
[03:44] <DougM> hey.. will you look at that.  I got songbird installed.  Now i just have to import all my music :(
[03:45] <bastidrazor> losher, yeah, i'm actually looking on how to get around the keyring password every time. i have ssh with no passwd working.
[03:45] <thetimewarp> overclucker, I got this: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:45] <thetimewarp> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:46] <bastidrazor> losher, actually nfs looks to be exactly what i want. a wee bit of set up and all should be fine.
[03:46] <RPG_Master> DougM:  Easy, go to Edit > Preferences and then select Music management. Then tell it where your music folder is :)
[03:47] <DougM> RPG_Master: cool thanks
[03:47] <losher> bastid_raZor: I think you can do what you want with samba also (though I don't know how). Better performance with nfs is all...
[03:47] <losher> bastid_raZor: let me know if you want help with nfs setup
[03:47] <mataks> how to run windows games in linux aside using cedega?
[03:48] <bastidrazor> losher, i'm actually streaming video from one box to another to be watched on a TV.
[03:48] <DougM> RPG_Master: what if im trying to import a CD?
[03:48] <hyperionx11> mataks, its easier starting a linux lan group and playing linux games over cedega lol
[03:48] <losher> bastid_raZor: I do that over nfs all the time
[03:48] <RPG_Master> DougM: OH! forgot to tell you, in preferences go to media importer then check that box
[03:48] <hyperionx11> mataks, its a POS
[03:49] <RPG_Master> DougM: search Add/Remove for CD Ripper
[03:49] <hyperionx11> where linux is with the game market is fine by me i just dont think its fair that we dont have ventrilo
[03:49] <TheSaintx86> hey can someone help me install drivers to tether my iphone
[03:49] <DougM> RPG_Master alright im gonna do that now
[03:49] <RPG_Master> Its the one with an Icon That looks like a orange
[03:49] <losher> mataks: there's no complete solution to windows gaming on linux. Some people end up dual booting...
[03:49] <TheSaintx86> does anyone in here have a iphone and a eeepc
[03:49] <Saruji> guys what does $PATH mean?
[03:49] <TheSaintx86> i got ubuntu 9.04
[03:49] <bastidrazor> losher, thanks. i'll dig into this howto and see how it goes.
[03:50] <losher> Saruji: it's the list of directories that get searched by default when you type the name of an application
[03:50] <hyperionx11> Saruji, set or export $PATH is like set path "" on dos
[03:50] <RPG_Master> DougM: The Songbird dudes are working on adding CD ripping. Should be done in about a month :)
[03:50] <hyperionx11> Saruji, set or export depending on your shell
[03:50] <mataks> hyperionx11,  cedega is not for free right?
[03:50] <Saruji> hyperionx11: thank you
[03:50] <hyperionx11> mataks, you can probably find a up to date torrent
[03:51] <losher> hyperionx11: some postings claim ventrillo runs under wine..
[03:51] <Saruji> losher thanks
[03:51] <bastidrazor> losher, do i have to do the portmap lockdown?  if someone does by chance get on my network nfs shares are not a worry at all.
[03:51] <bodhizazen> 'lo
[03:51] <DougM> RPG_Master: cool cool.. hey i typed CD Ripper in my add/remove applications and have All Available Applications chosen but its not coming up with anything
[03:51] <bastidrazor> losher, ahh.. optional.. i'm blind :|
[03:52] <bodhizazen> phil__, ?
[03:52] <psywiped> !netsplit
[03:52] <mechtech> hyperionx11: why not use enkigo?
[03:52] <losher> bastidrazor: I don't bother. If someone gets that far into my network, I have worse problems than exposed nfs shares....
[03:52] <hyperionx11> mataks, it would run counter-strike source ok on nvidia but i noted i was cheating (graphical glitches allowing wall hack)
[03:52] <mechtech> er: enkiga
[03:52] <bastidrazor> losher, same here.
[03:52] <thetimewarp> All right, guys, I'm pretty sure that I have flash installed correctly, but the online game I'm trying to play keeps flickering gray stripes.  Any ideas?
[03:53] <RPG_Master> DougM: .... Well then search for Audio CD Extractor.
[03:53] <mataks> hyperionx11, i tried to dowload cedega and i don't know how to use it..  it needs to install every game you want to play.. mine is already installed in my windows patition.. warcraft 3 i just want to copy it to cedega is that possible? like just copying and not installing
[03:53] <hyperionx11> mechtech, ill have to check into enkigo
[03:53] <DougM> RPG_Master: thanks ill give it a try.. im sure ill find it
[03:53] <RPG_Master> If you can't find it then, search for it using Synaptic
[03:53] <mechtech> hyperionx11: came installed on my ubuntu applications list
[03:53] <mechtech> hyperionx11: under internet
[03:54] <hyperionx11> mechtech, oh ekiga
[03:54] <RPG_Master> Funny. I came here looking to fix my VLC and now I am helping a dude get situated with songbird :D
[03:54] <mechtech> hyperionx11: yeah...that's what I meant...sorry
[03:54] <shiftiesb0102> is there a PHP channel?
[03:54] <losher> RPG_Master: nothing wrong with that. Spread it around...
[03:54] <hyperionx11> mechtech, theres another one zoiper communicator that works better on mac and PC
[03:54] <rww> shiftiesb0102: /join ##php
[03:54] <hyperionx11> mechtech, i cant use ekiga anymore because they removed the win32 builds
[03:55] <mechtech> hyperionx11: I want one that's entirely free of cost though
[03:55] <hyperionx11> and im not experienced porting with mingw
[03:55] <shiftiesb0102> what does over flow mean?
[03:55] <shiftiesb0102> when i try to connect to the php channel
[03:55] <hyperionx11> mechtech, zoiper communicator is free... works on my os tiger mac too... ekiga never did
[03:55] <mataks> how to install flash plugin in konqueror?
[03:55] <mechtech> hyperionx11: I'll have to check that out...thanks
[03:56] <DougM> quick issue.. my desktop icons have disappeared.  gconf-editor then apps > nautilus > preferences but show_desktop is checked.  Anyone have a suggestion as to what is going on?
[03:56] <Claxton> O_O wow...
[03:56] <losher> shiftiesb0102: it means you were denied access because ##php is too full....
[03:56] <mechtech> DougM: are you maybe on one of your extra desktops?
[03:56] <RPG_Master> DougM: Its a bug :(  You'll have to reboot to get your icons back
[03:56] <thetimewarp> Do you guys know what to do when flash games flicker gray a lot?
[03:57] <RPG_Master> I've lost my icons about 3 times
[03:57] <RPG_Master> in the past month
[03:57] <losher> DougM: remember asking if 9.04 was good? You just found a 9.04 bug....
[03:57] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, do you have gnash installed or another flash player.... thats probably doing that
[03:57] <bastidrazor> losher, nfs-server will only need to be on the host box and nfs-common on the client box.
[03:57] <thetimewarp> I have gnash, should I uninstall it?
[03:57] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, yes
[03:57] <losher> bastid_raZor: correct...
[03:57] <DougM> haha shoot.. ill have to restart once i finish installing Audio CD Extractor.
[03:58] <thetimewarp> hyperion, thanks a lot!  I'll do that now
[03:58] <mechtech> how come guys named smarter never offer help?
[03:58] <frivol> duhhrrr
[03:59] <shiftiesb0102> oh, im trying to see if there is a way to do mysqldump -u user -p'password' -e "SELECT * FROM table" --html
[03:59] <shiftiesb0102> in php
[03:59] <losher> mechtech: because nobody smart names themselves 'smarter'...
[03:59] <mechtech> losher: LOL
[03:59] <mechtech> losher: my thoughts exactly
[03:59] <shiftiesb0102> i wrote a shell script that php calls and it does it, but it just seem like a safe thing to do
[04:00] <shiftiesb0102> actually i use passthru()
[04:01] <Claxton> >.>
[04:01] <Claxton> <.<
[04:02] <bajoel> tes
[04:02] <bajoel> hi
[04:02] <bajoel> hi
[04:02] <bastidrazor> losher, in the howto it shows adding shares for IP's .. but they are on the same subnet. subnet shouldn't matter if static? 192.168.0.x is my host and clients are 192.168.1.x and .3.x
[04:02] <thetimewarp> hyperion, I thought I had gnash installed but it says now that it isn't.  What other flash players are common that I might have installed and would cause the flickering problem?
[04:03] <richardcavell> anyone here use clonezilla?  Can you vouch for its ability to restore a whole disk with multiple partitions?
[04:03] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, did you restart the firefox process?
[04:03] <mechtech> bastidrazor: I think subnet must be the same, or you would be sharing accross vpn type setup
[04:04] <losher> bastid_raZor: it shouldn't matter. As long as you have connectivity i.e. you can ping, nfs should work...
[04:04] <edbian> thetimewarp: Just search synaptic for "flash"  and you'll see there is adobe flash 10, adobe flash 9, swfdec, and gnash.
[04:04] <rogerio> aguem?
[04:04] <losher> !br | rogerio
[04:04] <edbian> thetimewarp: flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-install are actually both the same thing (flash 10)
[04:05] <doug__> Hey.. just restarted but still no icons :(.  If i try to drag an icon down it just starts moving toward the right side of the screen and slowly dissapears
[04:05] <doug__> its weird
[04:05] <thetimewarp> hyperion:  I've restarted firefox a couple of times since then
[04:05] <mechtech> what is the internet TV service you can use vlc with?
[04:05] <thetimewarp> edbian:  I'm pretty sure I have flash already, although that might be the problem.. I'm trying to play a game online and I keep getting a flickering screen
[04:06] <DougM> sorry posted under a different name but Hey.. just restarted but still no icons :(.  If i try to drag an icon down it just starts moving toward the right side of the screen and slowly dissapears
[04:06] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, does youtube work?
[04:06] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, if it says flash isnt installed but your game is flickering you dont have the right flash installed
[04:07] <edbian> thetimewarp: It is probably just poor performance.  None of the flash's available work flawlessly (or even well in my opinion).  However if you have more than 1 installed it is difficult to tell which one you're actually using.  I suggest installing only 1 at a time and testing it out.  Use more than one flash site though.  The open source flash players work on youtube but not many other sites.
[04:07] <johnny13> !alternate
[04:07] <thetimewarp> hyperion:  yeah, youtube works
[04:07] <thetimewarp> edbian:  Is there any specific one you'd suggest that you think works the best?
[04:08] <edbian> thetimewarp: I use adobe flash 10 cause it works on every site.
[04:08] <edbian> thetimewarp: My videos often are choppy / get stuck on a certain frame though which is annoying.
[04:08] <overclucker> apt-cache search flash
[04:09] <edbian> thetimewarp: youtube runs well and every video ever is on there so I usually find some video on a site and look it up on youtube instead of watching the embedded one.
[04:09] <Claxton> bugger its too busy in here for me -_-
[04:09] <johnny13> ebian which version of flash player are you using and are you on a 32-bit or 64-bit ubuntu distro?
[04:09] <trppy> hey all
[04:09] <Claxton> Hai
[04:09] <trppy> does anyone run compiz fusion in here?
[04:09] <edbian> johnny13: Adobeflash10  32 bit
[04:09] <edbian> trppy: I do!
[04:09] <hyperionx11> edbian, i have a 1.2ghz pIII and HD videos dont play smooth either
[04:09] <Claxton> okies bye bye
[04:10] <thetimewarp> edbian:  I did a search for flash in synaptic and it says that I have flashplugin-installer installed, is that the right one?
[04:10] <thetimewarp> overclucker;  Thanks, I'll try that out
[04:10] <edbian> hyperionx11: Even with your advanced processor from 4 years ago!?!!?
[04:10] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, i could suggest a reboot? lulz
[04:10] <overclucker> timewarp, that means verry little, since only the installer is installed
[04:10] <trppy> do you animate ur skydome?
[04:10] <edbian> thetimewarp: That's closed source adobe flash 10  (flashplugin-installer is actually a meta pacakge for "flashplugin-nonfree" )
[04:10] <johnny13> hyperionx11, well, my p4 (using the best available p4 hardware available) too would play 1080p smoothly.  its normal
[04:11] <edbian> trppy: I never have.  Why?
[04:11] <johnny13> hyperionx11, wouldn't*
[04:11] <edbian> overclucker: flashplugin-installer is a misleading name.  It actually installs "flashplugin-nonfree" which is adobe flash 10
[04:12] <TheSaintx86> does anyone tether iphone?
[04:12] <thetimewarp> edbian:  okay, I installed flashplugin-nonfree and it came up with the Changes Applied box.  Is that all I need to do?
[04:12] <edbian> johnny13: hyperionx11:  Why are you using adobe flash to play 1080p videos?  Where do you find a 1080p flash video anyway?
[04:12] <lintin> i have a sweet system i just put together.......
[04:13] <TheSaintx86> does anyone tether ubuntu 9.04 to iphone?
[04:13] <lintin> so I run compiz and its actually very usefull
[04:13] <hyperionx11> edbian, isn't youtube HD videos..?
[04:13] <lintin> will linux use all 8gb of ddr2 ram i put in it?
[04:13] <nnull> vbox website doesnt list a linux host specific to KDE (kubuntu 9.04) will the Ubuntu  9.04 one work?
[04:13] <edbian> hyperionx11: I don't think it's true HD.  Doesn't it actually say "HQ"  as in High Quality ??
[04:14] <johnny13> edbian, i never said I use flash to play 1080p
[04:14] <RPG_Master> I am back :D
[04:14] <edbian> johnny13: Oh!  My bad then! :)
[04:14] <Claxton> I lied ^^ im back!
[04:14] <edbian> nnull: virtualbox will run in KDE
[04:14] <hyperionx11> edbian, im basing my decision off that button, ive though Ive seen HQ and HD
[04:14] <overclucker> is this a 64 bit system, with the 8 gigs ram?
[04:14] <RPG_Master> I am sure no one knew I was gone :D
[04:14] <kindofabuzz> this isn't aol
[04:15] <lintin> no
[04:15] <lintin> not 64 bit
[04:15] <lintin> should i put ubuntu 64bit on?
[04:15] <johnny13> hyperionx11, maybe time for an upgrade?  p3 does the job for normal web surfing but nothing too graphic intensive now adays.  How much ram you got on there?
[04:15] <thetimewarp> So far, the game seems to be working.  :D Thanks for all your help, everyone
[04:15] <RPG_Master> kindofabuzz: :( ....  ;)
[04:16] <edbian> hyperionx11:That is true!  I just found one!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_oBZcdz-UE&feature=related  supposedly I can "watch in HD"  I wonder if it's true HD.  (as in 1080p)
[04:16] <RPG_Master> nope, 720P
[04:16] <edbian> RPG_Master: You were missed!  Thank you
[04:16] <RPG_Master> REALLY?!  :D
[04:16] <RPG_Master> I feel so loved :)
[04:17] <overclucker> if your processor is 64 bit, and you want t outilize 8 gigs of ram, yeah
[04:17] <lintin> overclucker should i do 64 bit ububuntu?
[04:17] <Mouse> ok guys I have a logitech webcam and when I try to use it the cam is soo blurry that nobody can see anything but my silouette this is what dmesg tells me http://www.pastebin.org/4702
[04:17] <lintin> mine is quad core intel, how do i tell if the cpu is 64 bit?
[04:17] <Steil> lintin: it's 64bit
[04:18] <lintin> k
[04:18] <lintin> kool
[04:18] <Steil> core2 quad?
[04:18] <edbian> lintin: Usually your system has a sticker
[04:18] <overclucker> i like stickers
[04:18] <Swish> all quads are 64 bit.
[04:18] <lintin> i built it part by part
[04:18] <lintin> not giving anythought about 64 bit
[04:19] <lintin> but i go the nvidia 780i mobo
[04:19] <genii> lintin: lshw -C cpu | grep width
[04:19] <Swish> ew, nvidia chipset :)
[04:19] <Swish> gross.
[04:20] <lintin> genii yep
[04:20] <lintin> 64 bit through and through
[04:20] <lintin> thanks for the command help
[04:20] <Mouse> ok guys I have a logitech webcam and when I try to use it the cam is soo blurry that nobody can see anything but my silouette this is what dmesg tells me http://www.pastebin.org/4702
[04:20] <genii> lintin: np
[04:20] <lintin> Swish i dont like ATI
[04:20] <lintin> never have
[04:21] <poseidon> How do you get gnome to look like KDE?
[04:21] <Swish> I don't like ATI either
[04:21] <Mouse> yeah ati is not the good for linux
[04:21] <lintin> thanks overclucker and genii
[04:21] <Mouse> I have an ati onboard card
[04:21] <Swish> Intel Chipsets are just superior, that's all
[04:21] <overclucker> haha
[04:21] <DasEi> poseidon:install kubuntu-desktop
[04:21] <overclucker> and more open
[04:21] <Mouse> but I recently put in a gt6600
[04:21] <Swish> the last time I remember nVidia making a good end-user chipset was... the nForce2?  with soundstorm MCP
[04:21] <lintin> oh
[04:21] <DougM> Hey.. im trying to open my music folder.  I went to places -> music.  when i click it it starts to open i see the tab on my taskbar below and the spinning cursor but after a few seconds it just stops and the tab on the taskbar goes away.   anyone know why this might be happening?
[04:22] <RPG_Master> poseidon: or if you just want the default theme search for the GTK port of Oxygen.
[04:22] <lintin> i have the geforce 9800 512 ram
[04:22] <lintin> and the armor full tower all aluminum case
[04:22] <lintin> its huge
[04:22] <lintin> i love it
[04:22] <overclucker> that's a nice card
[04:22] <overclucker> i almost got one of those
[04:22] <lintin> thanks for all the help and opinions guys
[04:22] <lintin> one luv
[04:23] <RPG_Master> DougM: Seems like thats happened to me...
[04:23] <DougM> RPG_Master: yeah and after restarting my icons havnt come back.. its weird.  I feel like im doing something wrong and everything is just hiding on me :(.
[04:24] <lintin> so do i have to dl the 64 bit iso and re-install?
[04:24] <overclucker> gnomes always steal my icons
[04:24] <RPG_Master> DougM: Dude, I am kinda lost :|  You might want to start a thread on the Ubuntu Forums
[04:24] <lintin> or can i apt update to it?
[04:24] <overclucker> reinstall
[04:24] <shane2peru> what is too hot a processor temp to be running?  85-90C ??
[04:24] <DougM> RPG_Master.. yeah im gonna search around online.. its really weird.
[04:24] <shane2peru> This is a laptop
[04:25] <overclucker> or, install side by side, if oyu have an extra partition
[04:25] <RPG_Master> try using www.uboontu.com
[04:25] <duckwars> I'm having very difficult time with screen.  I have like 6 sockets running but I can't figure out how to get back to them
[04:25] <RPG_Master> it only searches Linux related stuff
[04:25] <Swish> 90C... man that's going to make you sterile :)
[04:25] <Mouse> ok guys I have a logitech webcam and when I try to use it the cam is soo blurry that nobody can see anything but my silouette this is what dmesg tells me http://www.pastebin.org/4702
[04:25] <overclucker> duckwars: screen -ls
[04:25] <rww> duckwars: screen -r
[04:26] <shane2peru> does anyone know anything about laptop operational temps?  and it seems as though mine is overheating
[04:26] <overclucker> and unless you detatched them improperly, screen -r (partial socket identifier)
[04:26] <duckwars> whenever I do the screen -r pid it just says "there is no screen to be resumed matching 28077"
[04:26] <duckwars> even though it is there in the screen -ls
[04:27] <Swish> shane2peru, check to see if your laptop fan has died.  if not, try to blow out dust
[04:27] <overclucker> duckwars, maybe you should name your sockets
[04:27] <overclucker> and to that last comment, try screen -x pid
[04:27] <shane2peru> Swish, fan is working fine, it is practically new, I had a problem with it before Jaunty too, but seemed to have disappeared, and now is back
[04:27] <duckwars> how do I do that? How can I terminate these damned sockets??!?!
[04:28] <Swish> shane2peru, could be loose Heatsink
[04:28] <overclucker> sounds like you didn't detatch properly
[04:28] <shane2peru> Swish, before I added noacpi to the menu.lst and that fixed it, now it doesn't
[04:28] <shane2peru> Swish, soo, not sure what to do, and what is acceptable temp to run a processor.
[04:29] <rww> duckwars: try screen -dr to detach first?
[04:29] <overclucker> screen -x pid should attach it for you
[04:29] <duckwars> screen -x pid seems to put me on that screen, then i ctrl^a k and kills the screen but the socket still exists!!
[04:29] <Swish> shane2peru, 90C probably isn't too hot for the CPU, but it's not good for human beings's laps
[04:29] <Swish> the parts around the CPU will die faster as well
[04:29] <Guest39346> hello, I have a question about which version of ubuntu to install.  I'm currently running the 64-bit version of Jaunty Jackalope on AMD64 architecture; however, I've noticed that when I try to install certain applications, such as Skype and Flash, I receive an error message saying wrong architecture.  Hence, I was considering installing the 32-bit version.  What pros/cons do I get from the 64-bit version over 3
[04:29] <Guest39346> 2-bit?  I primarily use my computer for media playback, word processing, internet, etc.  Nothing too demanding.
[04:30] <shane2peru> Swish, right, now it is "idling" and running at 78C, when I start a process, it really starts cooking
[04:30] <Mouse> ok guys I have a logitech webcam and when I try to use it the cam is soo blurry that nobody can see anything but my silouette this is what dmesg tells me http://www.pastebin.org/4702
[04:31] <askvictor> I've changed an volume in LVM, then going to change another one I get "locking type 1 initialisation failed". Any other lvm commands I try give the same thing. Any ideas?
[04:31] <shane2peru> Swish, hmm, just started a video processing, we hit 95C, fan kicks up to high speed
[04:31] <shane2peru> Swish, oops, just hit 100C
[04:31] <Swish> shane2peru, google that CPU's temps
[04:32] <shane2peru> Swish, will do, was hoping someone was a processor temp wizard. :)
[04:32] <se7en> What is a good easy blogging app/service to use? I need it to blog my 30 day experience with linux
[04:33] <DougM> se7en: id check out wordpress
[04:33] <FloridaGuy> ? any differences between grub and grub2
[04:33] <overclucker> duckwars: C-a \
[04:33] <Saruji> hello, question, I have jaunty running on a dual monitor setup, how can I get the toolbar to stretch across both screens?
[04:33] <duckwars> overlcucker what does that do?
[04:33] <komputes> Mouse: Is there a manual focus ring on the lens of your Logitech webcam?
[04:33] <se7en> sweet thanks...
[04:33] <overclucker> kill all windows in screen session
[04:34] <overclucker> man screen
[04:34] <Mouse> yeah I think I tried that
[04:34] <Mouse> but let me try again
[04:35] <duckwars> overclucker: thanks, what is C-a though, is that ctrl^a?
[04:35] <overclucker> from man screen: C-a C-\     (quit)        Kill all windows and terminate screen.
[04:35] <olimones> pas du son sur ma portable. j
[04:36] <c751nr> Anyone know how to burn a .toast file in Jaunty?
[04:36] <olimones> quelqun peut m aider1
[04:36] <overclucker> C-a C-\     (quit)        Kill all windows and terminate screen.
[04:36] <komputes> olimones: oui mai sur #ubuntu-fr
[04:36] <overclucker> oops
[04:36] <overclucker> he: apt-cache search toast
[04:37] <DougM> RPG_Master: Hey after that restart all my desktop icons are back haha
[04:37] <olimones> oui
[04:37] <vorian> !fr | olimones
[04:38] <vorian> grr, lag
[04:38] <olimones> je ai suivi quelque information que j ai trouve sur internet
[04:38] <olimones> il a marche mai le son est tres bas
[04:38] <komputes> olimones: va sur le chat #ubuntu-fr, ici c'est en anglais
[04:38] <Mouse> ok well now my webcam dosen't show up at all anymore
[04:38] <Mouse> just shows up as a white screen