[21:07] <Omen20> mnaines, right lol. i will just finally clean on windows and move ubuntu over to the 7200. do you know of a well supported video card for ubuntu thats >=$100? My ATI Radeon X1000 doesnt run flash well on ubuntu but does fine on Vista.
[21:07] <DasEi> Happehwalrus:  ah sorry, you have no net;; are eth0/1 listed in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[21:07] <Dutchy> yeah ill google my soundchip
[21:07] <johnmn3> mate: so it works, but not to the network you want to be connected to?
[21:07] <kilo> anyone familiar with how I can move Gnome-do's docky to another part of the screen? I can resize, but can't grip it or move it...
[21:08] <mnaines> Omen20: You won't find a decent video card for less than $100 anymore
[21:08] <mate> johnmn3: yeah, everything seems to be normal, but i can't send packets to the internet
[21:08] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: Yes, but I don't have ethernet on it.
[21:08] <Omen20> mnaines, whys that? prices go up?
[21:08] <johnmn3> does it say you are connected to the wireless router that you want to be connected to?
[21:09] <ThomasB2k> Hello, I'm using an Alienware m15x with the latest version of Ubuntu Jaunty. I got my sound and my built in web cam to work, but I just can't get the built in microphone to work. Does anyone have any advice?
[21:09] <johnmn3> mate: ^
[21:09] <DasEi> Happehwalrus:  nano /etc/network/interfaces          ,look for line saying iface eth0 and/or 1
[21:09] <mnaines> Omen20: No, the technology is too new...They did away with AGP and are now running PCI Express.
[21:09] <IRConan> can anyone tell me how to make alsa forget all the cards it has used
[21:09] <IRConan> I just attached my usb sound card and turned off the onboard one but it keeps making it card 1 instead of card 0
[21:09] <johnmn3> ThomasB2k: have you checked alsamixer?  That's all I know about
[21:09] <ThomasB2k> yes
[21:09] <ThomasB2k> I have
[21:09] <mnaines> IRConan: Have you disabled the onboard sound in the BIOS?
[21:10] <IRConan> mnaines: yes
[21:10] <ThomasB2k> After almost a year of ubuntu, this is the first time something hasn't worked for me.
[21:10] <IRConan> cat /proc/asouns/cards just shows one card but it's numbered 1
[21:10] <IRConan> and the default device still tries to use the non-existent card 0
[21:10] <ThomasB2k> and I've looked all over
[21:10] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: nano /etc/network/interface? What?1
[21:10] <mate> johnmn3:  it seems I am connected to the ap as I see from iwconfig command
[21:11] <johnmn3> ThomasB2k: have you enabled all the checkboxes in the audio preferences section, so all the levers and buttons are present?
[21:11] <ThomasB2k> johnmn3: yes, i have
[21:11] <johnmn3> mate: did it give you an IP address?
[21:12] <johnmn3> ThomasB2k: Then the issue goes deeper than I would know how to fix.. I'd start looking at the drivers
[21:12] <Happehwalrus> I'm so tired of no help, I want to scream until my vocal cords die.
[21:12] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: run that cmd on the wifi machine and read that file :
[21:12] <tvjudge> OK I think I have my raid working and it appears to be mounted but how can I tell where it is mounted DUH??
[21:12] <ThomasB2k> thanks
[21:12] <DasEi> Happehwalrus:  nano /etc/network/interfaces
[21:12] <mate> johnmn3: how do I check that?
[21:12] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: look for a line saying iface eth0 and/or 1
[21:13] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: I don't understand.
[21:13] <johnmn3> mate: either ifconfig or iwconfig should list an IP for each interface, if it has one
[21:14] <johnmn3> mate: like, lo might have <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:14] <mnaines> Happehwalrus: Just type ifconfig into a terminal and pastebin the output
[21:14] <DasEi> mnaines: won't do it
[21:15] <mate> johnmn3: yeah I know...but it seems that I don't have an ip... this is what I get: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/290331/
[21:15] <tvjudge> I am trying to mount my raid array as follows sudo mount /dev/mapper/sil_ajbgbgdcaaag /media/Projects
[21:15] <gui77> ello everyone
[21:15] <Guest83990> .
[21:15] <DasEi> mnaines: happe.. is on a machine in irc, tries to set up wifi on another with no current connection, module is loaded
[21:16] <johnmn3> mate: I know you don't want to flood the room, but I can't get on to a browser at the moment.. stuck in the console
[21:16] <gui77> does anyone know how i can use shred to wipe my entire hard drive/partition?
[21:16] <tvjudge> I get a message sayibng that it is already mounted or /media/Projects busy
[21:16] <mnaines> DasEi: So its not letting him connect?
[21:16] <joaopinto> gui77, command: wipe
[21:16] <gui77> wipe? ok, thanks
[21:16] <Guest83990> .
[21:16] <Happehwalrus> mnaines: http://pastebin.com/m3600fc8b
[21:16] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/m3600fc8b
[21:17] <Guest83990> Empathy is trash!
[21:17] <Guest83990> I can't identify my nickname.
[21:17] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: your local machine ...
[21:17] <mate> johnmn3: ah ok, well then no i don't get an ip, in wlan0
[21:17] <Guest83990> It doesn't save my preferences.
[21:17] <Guest83990> Crashes all the time.
[21:17] <johnmn3> mate: and you said "sudo dhclient" in the console didn't help?
[21:17] <DasEi> johnmn3: install pastebinit
[21:18] <gui77> wait, then how would i use wipe?
[21:18] <gui77> would it be: wipe /
[21:18] <mate> johnmn3: no, it didn't
[21:18] <gui77> because that wouldn't erase my partition table would it?
[21:18] <DasEi> gui77: man wipe
[21:18] <gui77> i've done man wipe :P
[21:18] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
[21:18] <gui77> still dont get it, because i want to wipe the *entire* hard drive
[21:18] <johnmn3> mate: ok, have you tried setting an ip address manually from the network manager utility?
[21:19] <incidence> Yea, I don't like it much either
[21:19] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: k, basic terms from now on:
[21:19] <mnaines> gui77: First find the hard drive label like sda, sdb, or whatever, then type wipe /dev/harddrivedesignation
[21:19] <David_> anyone know what is the easiest/best backup/img solution for a win/nix enviorment where ubuntu will run the server portion?
[21:19] <johnmn3> mate: something like <IP_ADDRESS>, depending on your network.
[21:19] <kamola> that's why i think ubuntu is totally crap
[21:19] <gui77> ah ok mnaines
[21:19] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: trWifi = terminal on belkin-pc,  roger ?
[21:19] <guntbert> !best | David_
[21:19] <johnmn3> David_: there's something like freeghost.. can't remember the name
[21:19] <Happehwalrus> Go to terminal, type trWifi?
[21:20] <kamola> ubuntu isn't able to handle standard filetypes
[21:20] <Dutchy> bah, i've explicitly changed the alsa conf file for options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-digout but my headset still doesnt work
[21:20] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: no, but I give you commands, like trWifi: lspci              you enter lspci on belkin comp
[21:20] <losha> kamola: stop whining and ask a technical question
[21:20] <johnmn3> David_: FOG, it was called.. "Free Open Ghost" or something.. but I remember "FOG"
[21:21] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: trWifi: nano /etc/network/interfaces
[21:21] <mate> johnmn3: i checked network tools, and i have the ip address <IP_ADDRESS> but no net
[21:21] <johnmn3> wow, that bot sure is pedantic
[21:21] <kamola> technical question? it can't handley my belkkin usb stick
[21:21] <vigo> !backup | David_
[21:21] <kamola> why?
[21:21] <kamola> what can i do?
[21:22] <David_> ubottu thanks...sorry i wasn't lookin for a poll
[21:22] <DasEi> kamola: watch hapethwalrus, same issue
[21:22] <johnmn3> mate: is your gateway <IP_ADDRESS>?
[21:22] <Happehwalrus> nano /ect/network/interfaces?!
[21:22] <Happehwalrus> bawww!R%@JK)WEGO(_hwnop
[21:22] <Happehwalrus> wrhyni
[21:22] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: yes, in trml of belkin machine
[21:23] <Happehwalrus> oic.
[21:23] <fearful> Is there any way to remove with wildcards? Let's say I want to remove all the .jpg files in a folder?
[21:23] <thedude42> kamola, what have you done besides plugged int he usb stick?
[21:23] <johnmn3> mate: if so, can you "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" ??
[21:23] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: you see a line starting : iface eth0    ?
[21:24] <mate> johnmn3: how can i change my ip from the console?
[21:24] <Happehwalrus> I typed that in, there's nothing.
[21:24] <mate> johnmn3: no, it says that network is unreachable
[21:24] <Happehwalrus> liek there is new file, all kinds of shit.
[21:25] <johnmn3> mate: you ought not have to, if you already have one.. hmm.. from the utility that told you what your IP address was, does it say what your gateway is?
[21:25] <mate> yes, <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:25] <mnaines> fearful: Try *.jpg
[21:25] <johnmn3> ah, ping that
[21:26] <biznock09> none of the torrents i get actually download in my transmission program any ideas?
[21:26] <ViRii[K]> I was reading this guide http://polishlinux.org/choose/comparison/?distro1=Fedora&distro2=Ubuntu and it says that Ubuntu supports amd64 and i386.. does it not support x86_64?
[21:26] <ddo> how can I run nvidia-xconfig as a root?
[21:26] <mate> johnmn3: no it is unreachable
[21:26] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: ctrl&x to close it
[21:27] <ddo> help me pls how can I run nvidia-xconfig as a root?
[21:27] <DasEi> sudo in front, ddo
[21:27] <johnmn3> mate: but you can ping your own address, right?
[21:27] <Happehwalrus> DASEI: What do you want me to do?!
[21:27] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: trWifi: nano /etc/network/interfaces
[21:27] <ddo> DasEi: i ll try ty
[21:28] <biznock09>  none of the torrents i get actually download in my transmission program any ideas?
[21:28] <mate> i can ping <IP_ADDRESS> only
[21:28] <mate> johnmn3: how do i manually change my ip from the terminal?
[21:28] <johnmn3> wasn't your IP <IP_ADDRESS> or something?
[21:28] <mnaines> mate, from my networking experience, that usually indicates a problem with the line
[21:29] <johnmn3> mate... mmm, something like ifconfig wlan0 ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:29] <johnmn3> or maybe adding the subnet mask on there too
[21:29] <vigo> ViRii[K]: Yes it does, since Feisty, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=443978, I will find the official docs on it...
[21:29] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: What to do now?
[21:29] <mnaines> johnmn3: You have to do that through iwconfig, not ifconfig
[21:29] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: that file is empty ?
[21:30] <Happehwalrus> Yes.
[21:30] <johnmn3> mate: aigh, might have to use iwconfig
[21:30] <mnaines> johnmn3: iwconfig address I think is the right command
[21:30] <johnmn3> with a sudo
[21:30] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: are you on jaunty ?
[21:30] <ddo> relog
[21:30] <biznock09>  none of the torrents i get actually download in my transmission program any ideas?
[21:30] <Happehwalrus> 9.04, yes.
[21:31] <mnaines> mate, try iwconfig wlan0 address ipaddress and see if that does anything
[21:31] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: sure no typo ? /etc/network/interfaces ?
[21:31] <quellhorst> is lokkit the best console based firewall config app?
[21:31] <quellhorst> also, cant seem to find the package to install it with 9.04
[21:31] <mate> mnaines: unknown command, address
[21:32] <kamola> thedude24: thx for trying to help me but i'm very busy in the moment
[21:32] <Stronze> i cant get my externel DVD drive to work and dev/cdrom doesnt exsist.
[21:32] <mnaines> mate: Sorry, I am unable to test these commands myself because I am currently using wipe in terminal, so I cannot type in the commands to test them.  Try iwconfig -h to get a list of commands
[21:32] <fccf> quellhorst: recommend ufw ... works well with configuring firewalls
[21:32] <teknozwizard> Guess whose running XChat.
[21:32] <fccf> !info ufw | quellhorst
[21:33] <fccf> quellhorst: and it is standard ... man ufw for more info on syntax
[21:33] <quellhorst> cool, ufw is smiple
[21:33] <teknozwizard> I just finished installing Ubuntu JJ on my laptop. So far, I'm loving it greatly.
[21:34] <teknozwizard> My question is, is this the same #Ubuntu channel as it is if I'd be using mIRC through Windows?
[21:34] <fccf> teknozwizard: yes
[21:34] <teknozwizard> sweet.
[21:34] <johnmn3> mate: mate, try sudo ifconfig wlan0 <desired-address>
[21:34] <teknozwizard> Lefty: Look dude! I did it and it was thanks to your advice!
[21:34] <mnaines> teknozwizard: no matter how you connect to IRC, it is the same channel regardless
[21:34] <mate> johnmn3: ok
[21:35] <paul_s> anyone ? i need help in a pm to install vbox i tried 3 times now
[21:35] <biznock09> any suggestions on printers that have drivers that run  with ubuntu
[21:35] <lolmac> hi
[21:35] <teknozwizard> Now if I could just figure out how to set the time right. It's 5 hours off..
[21:35] <DasEi> paul_s: why pm ?
[21:35] <RegressLess> how do I set a partition to mount at startup?
[21:35] <lolmac> i updated ubuntu, and my wired ethernet connection doesn't work no more
[21:35] <lolmac> only the wireless works know
[21:35] <lolmac> wat happened?
[21:35] <johnmn3> mate: or try sudo ifconfig wlan0 add <desired-address>
[21:35] <DasEi> !fstab | RegressLess
[21:36] <johnmn3> not really sure
[21:36] <lolmac> why the wired stopped working?
[21:36] <paul_s> for everyone else not to have to put up with me thats a why
[21:36] <lolmac> :-(
[21:36] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: locate the file via places grafically
[21:36] <paul_s> for everyone else not to have to put up with me that is why
[21:36] <johnmn3> lolmac: strange: mine did too
[21:36] <tvjudge> Can someone please point me in the right direction. I have a RAID setup but I am having a brain fart regarding how to mount it?
[21:36] <yunien> hi, slightly offtopic: somebody knows how not to loose the Amazon EC2 instance everytime you power off the machine?
[21:36] <paul_s> i am a newbie
[21:36] <JockyWilson> Hi, Amarok 1.4 fetch covers from Amazon is this broken?
[21:36] <Stronze> i cant get my externel DVD drive to work and dev/cdrom doesnt exsist. need help getting it to run again
[21:37] <lolmac> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1155823.html
[21:37] <quellhorst> man some of the mirrors are so slow. it sucks to go from > 3MB/sec to 80KB/sec :(
[21:37] <ViRii[K]> For multimedia work (Visual Effects / Graphici Design / Video Editing) do you guys recommend Ubuntu 9 or Fedora 11? (I understand that this is an Ubuntu channel, but hopefully you'll be able to steer me in the right direction wihtout being biased :P)
[21:37] <DasEi> paul_s: k,  went to vbox homepage and d/l the *deb ?
[21:37] <paul_s> i installed vbox, and xp and had no usb
[21:37] <paul_s> can t fix it , hours wasted
[21:37] <fccf> JockyWilson: that's Karmic ... not here please
[21:37] <fccf> !karmic
[21:37] <paul_s> marked for complete removal atm
[21:37] <vigo> biznock09: Have you used Synaptic to look for the driver and are the Restricted or other settings loaded?
[21:38] <biznock09> no
[21:38] <paul_s> ready to delet the thing
[21:38] <johnmn3> quelhorst: try 1kb a second
[21:38] <paul_s> shall i ?
[21:38] <biznock09> vigo: what is that
[21:38] <thedude42> !livid
[21:38] <quellhorst> johnmn3: haha, you get t hat?
[21:38] <vigo> biznock09: Do you know what Synaptic Package Manager is?
[21:38] <biznock09> Vigo: yes
[21:38] <DasEi> paul_s: this is ubuntu support, not vbox ;; the repos won't fit usb-support, get it from vbox hp, additional install guest.additions in your vm's (##virtualbox)
[21:38] <biznock09> i meant to say how do i look for it
[21:38] <johnmn3> quellhorst: poor satellite connection
[21:38] <thedude42> !10.04
[21:38]  * quellhorst is still in shock that he has fiber to the home :)
[21:38] <kilo> If I uninstalled something via Wine, anyone know how to remove the link from the Applications menu?
[21:39] <JockyWilson> fccf - Ubuntu 9.04 Amarok fetch covers from Amazon does not work any longer
[21:39] <gbear142751> I'm trying to figure out what packages I installed when I selected the virtual machine host during the install process for 9.04 server... can someone suggest some documentation or a search term... google isn't really returning anything useful.
[21:39] <vigo> biznock09: Do you know about Restricted,Multiverse and such packages?
[21:39] <thedude42> gbear142751, lib-virt
[21:39] <quellhorst> johnmn3: i feel your pain. I have had to get on my verizon wireless or at&t tethering connection many times
[21:39] <Fox3211> Can I load grub after windows7 install? or does it have to be partitioned in before?
[21:39] <thedude42> or libvirt, rather
[21:39] <gbear142751> thedude42: that it?
[21:39] <fccf> JockyWilson: I beleive there has already been a bug reported, we had someone yesterday asking.. that is how I know, it affects both Jaunty and karmic
[21:39] <biznock09> vigo: no
[21:40] <johnmn3> quellhorst: synaptice upgrade says I have 29 days remaining
[21:40] <DasEi> Fox3211: it mostly works, but better backup mbr before
[21:40] <quellhorst> lol
[21:40] <vigo> !restricted | biznock09
[21:40] <thedude42> gbear142751, kvm was probably also included, but libvirt is that main set of tools
[21:40] <quellhorst> johnmn3: by that time the new version will be out
[21:40] <quellhorst> isnt it due in like 14 days?
[21:40] <johnmn3> quellhorst: right
[21:40] <JockyWilson> ic dam nuisance
[21:40] <johnmn3> well, I gotta run.. good luck everyone
[21:40] <quellhorst> you could do like me and move to get a better connect
[21:40] <quellhorst> johnmn3: cya
[21:40] <teknozwizard> this is irritating..
[21:40] <gbear142751> thedude42: great!  thanks... just wanted to make sure i didn't install too much extra stuff to the server but that sounds about perfect
[21:40] <biznock09> thanks
[21:41] <sdss> hello
[21:41] <teknozwizard> I can't figure out how to change the time....
[21:41] <biznock09> Ubottu do you know much about transmission
[21:41] <biznock09> ?
[21:41] <teknozwizard> can't just double click it! be damned to you smarter people!
[21:41] <johnmn3> exit
[21:41] <johnmn3> oops
[21:41] <mnaines> !transmission | biznock09
[21:41] <vigo> biznock09: I am not saying that it is a restricted device, is best to look at the Hardware site from Ubuntu to see if the device is listed and in what part or section of the repos it is in.
[21:41] <Fox3211> DasEi: I cuurentely have no mbr because I am installing windows first time, and I think I can just use windows to format hd but wanted to verify with you first if I can still use grub if I let windows format hd?
[21:41] <thedude42> gbear142751, yeah, those are most of it.... you can try apt-cache shopkg virtual-host and see what that spits back
[21:41] <sdss> !linux
[21:41] <thedude42> s/shopkg/showpkg/
[21:41] <Mohammad[B]> Hi all
[21:42] <biznock09> Vigo: ok thanks any experience in transmission
[21:42] <guntbert> teknozwizard: what about right click on the applet?
[21:42] <lolmac> it's usual in ubuntu the network  ethernet adapter stop working?
[21:42] <Mohammad[B]> how i can download youtube videos in HD on Ubuntu ? :-s please help me
[21:42] <gbear142751> thedude42: run that on the server I take it?  Not too cli saavy yet
[21:42] <lolmac> is this normal?
[21:42] <kilo> If I uninstalled something via Wine, anyone know how to remove the link from the Applications menu?
[21:42] <biznock09> Mnaines:  can you help?
[21:42] <Hacker> hi
[21:42] <mnaines> biznock09: Sorry, I don't know anything about transmission
[21:42] <thedude42> yeah, when you want to know anything about packages, the apt-cache tool is your friend
[21:42] <teknozwizard> Guntbert: Thanks for the tip.
[21:42] <guntbert> kilo: right click on applications - edit menus...
[21:42] <Hacker> hi
[21:43] <guntbert> teknozwizard: you are welcome :-)
[21:43] <kilo> guntbert, Thanks!!
[21:43] <vigo> biznock09: Some, yes, here is the Hardware List, or a Hardware List: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/
[21:43] <teknozwizard> For some reason I had to break out my wireless mouse to right click. Stupid Dell touchpad right click button isn't work very well right now.
[21:43] <thedude42> gbear142751, on the cli type 'man apt-cache' and that should tlel you more than you ever wanted to know
[21:43] <DasEi> Fox3211:yes, can do so, but ask in #windows on how to backup your mbr, most times grub copes with win (xp) , be sure, it won't break the whole install, anyway
[21:43] <Hacker> milaei kaneis ellinika?
[21:43] <ikonia> Hacker: please speak English
[21:43] <sdss> !nfs
[21:44] <TimothyA> ikonia; he is speaking english, except on a much higher level, because he's a hacker!
[21:44] <thedude42> !ipsec
[21:44] <gbear142751> thedude42: lol, my bad, guess a rtfm is in order.  Thanks I'll look into it
[21:44] <biznock09> Vigo: thanks for the hardware list.  My transmission dl's just sit idle and never dl, any thoughts?
[21:44] <ikonia> TimothyA: please don't be silly
[21:44] <fccf> Fox3211: if you install windows on the first partition, install linux on the second partition and make sure that grub gets written to the second partition, after installing switch the boot flag to the linux(grub) drive then modify /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:44] <TimothyA> we can solely just not understand his gibbe...ehm, i mean, highly intellectual discussion
[21:44] <fccf> Fox3211: to add windows to the grub list
[21:44] <thedude42> gbear142751, no sweat, knowing what to man for isn't always intuitive at first
[21:44] <googlix> Hello.. I've just installed amarok2 on ubuntu 9.04...
[21:44] <googlix> there is no sound here...
[21:45] <shawnmstout> hello, how can you configure a microphone to work on ubuntu, like what can you type in?
[21:45] <OmnipotentEntity> So, sometimes when I scp it stalls and when it stalls I can't scp again until I unload and load my driver.  AR5001X+ using ath_pci module (ath5k doesn't work) anyone have any idea wtf is going on?
[21:45] <googlix> rhythmbox works fine
[21:45] <vigo> biznock09: I would think to check Hardware first, lines, cables, plugs, then I would test or look at the Network Setup and make certain it is correct for your needs.
[21:45] <gbear142751> thedude42: my biggest question was I wasn't sure if the metapackages it asks if you want to install during setup correlated to packages directly...
[21:45] <fccf> googlix: rythymbox uses gstreamer, amarok uses xine ... you are missing plugins
[21:46] <fretegi2> hey guys
[21:46] <mnaines> TimothyA: True hackers never tell anyone they are hackers
[21:46] <ikonia> mnaines: please don't start that sort of dicussion
[21:46] <teknozwizard> wtf mate....
[21:46] <teknozwizard> where'd my gnome-mud go?
[21:46] <googlix> fccf: that makes sense...
[21:46] <fretegi2> hey guys, troubleshooting a mic issue
[21:46] <thedude42> gbear142751, yeah they do, and you'll find out which with either the dpkg tool or apt-cache... and apt-cache looks at stuff int he repos, not just deb packages on your local machine
[21:46] <fretegi2> no worky
[21:47] <fretegi2> any thoughts?
[21:47] <paissad-hp> hi all
[21:47] <googlix> fccf: I'm going to install it now... thank you!
[21:47] <teknozwizard> nvm
[21:47] <ZoeyMarie> I have two kernals in my grub/menu.lst that appear to be exactly the same (except for the quiet/splash parameters), can I just delete the ones that I don't want?
[21:47] <paissad-hp> would you like to propose a light web browser for ubuntu
[21:47] <teknozwizard> who knows how to mask your IP address?
[21:47] <fretegi2> epiphany
[21:47] <paissad-hp> i searched for iceweasel just like debian, but i cannot find it !
[21:47] <vigo> Epiphany
[21:47] <fretegi2> very light, ff 3.5 faster tho imo
[21:47] <ikonia> teknozwizard: ask in #freenode for a cloak
[21:47] <paissad-hp> ok, thanks
[21:47] <DasEi> paissad-hp: or seamonkey
[21:47] <kilo> Anyone know how I can easily add a custom icon to a launcher?  I know it's a longshot... it seems to be an involved process.
[21:47] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, yeah you can, but if you want the diagnostic boot options at boot you might want to leave the others
[21:48] <fccf> ZoeyMarie: you can, uh, I'd backup first though, incase you break something, ... are you sure one of those isn't recovery mode?
[21:48] <ZoeyMarie> it doesn't say recovery mode after it... I want a recovery mode one, but it's not there...
[21:48] <vigo> !iceweasel
[21:49] <ZoeyMarie> fccf: is recovery mode just another copy of the kernel?
[21:49] <biznock09> Vigo:  Im sure cables and plugs wont be an issue however drivers and software yes
[21:49] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: diagnostic boot options?
[21:49] <fccf> ZoeyMarie: same kernel, just single-user mode, which is recovery mode
[21:49] <Stronze> i cant get my externel DVD drive to work and dev/cdrom doesnt exsist. need help getting it to run again
[21:50] <fccf> kilo: right click on launcher, properties ... in properties dialog click on the icon
[21:50] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, typically you'll have one that does single user mode, but if it's a new install they have one that goes to a recovery options menu
[21:50] <scott9876> has anyone used moblin, any good?
[21:50] <meoblast001> hi
[21:50] <meoblast001> is it safe to compile Qt2 on Ubuntu 9.04?
[21:50] <meoblast001> it appears to have been removed from the repos
[21:50] <ZoeyMarie> fccf: thedude42: how do I know if one is single user modE?
[21:50] <kilo> fccf Wow... I've been trying to find that for hours!!  thank you!!!
[21:50] <ikonia> meoblast001: safe if you know what you're doing and how to manage it
[21:51] <pawel_> j
[21:51] <vigo> biznock09: I am just running it by the numbers, I am certain you would not be surprised to hear a client say, My dl stopped!? and then a power cord was kicked out by a doggy. Stuff happens. I am just covering all the bases as I know them.
[21:51] <pawel_> hej
[21:51] <meoblast001> ikonia: never compiled Qt before
[21:51] <meoblast001> but i want kexedit
[21:51] <meoblast001> khexedit
[21:51] <crazy2be> Why is my firefox not automatically upgraded to the latest version (3.5)?
[21:51] <meoblast001> and it only has Qt2 support
[21:51] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, i beleive using the option 'single' before the root declaration in grub does that
[21:51] <biznock09> vigo: understood
[21:52] <biznock09> vigo: im wireless and right now and the dl just never beggins
[21:52] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: can you tell me if this is set up right? these are the kernels that are listed: http://pastebin.com/d7869405c
[21:52] <Fox3211> crazy2be: i am pretty sure it will be in karmic
[21:52] <thedude42> but i'm not certain that order actually matters
[21:52] <biznock09> vigo: it loads into transmission but just sitts idle even after a forced dl
[21:52] <vigo> biznock09: Is the wlan or connection good and stable?
[21:53] <biznock09> yes
[21:53] <crazy2be> Why does it take so long to update? Windows users had the latest firefox months ago
[21:53] <Pici> !ff35 | crazy2be
[21:53] <ikonia> crazy2be: because it's intergrated into the desktop
[21:53] <biznock09> vigo: im connected right now and talking on this server i would assume my conex is good
[21:53] <teknozwizard> I have to go. I'll probably be back soon. Gotta update my new linux.
[21:53] <teknozwizard> (grins)
[21:53] <paissad-hp> i installed epiphany, but it bugged too, just as firefox did, it's about the nphelix.so plugin
[21:53] <zleap> can i upgrade open office from 2.4 toa later version on 8.10
[21:53] <paissad-hp> i started those apps by the console
[21:54] <vigo> biznock09: Any Firewalls or Rulesets that could be stopping or disrupting certain packets or certain severs?
[21:54] <fretegi2> anyone use teamspeak?
[21:54] <teknozwizard> <--- looks so proud of his newbie-self!
[21:54] <manojmalik> how i connect net in ubuntu 9.04 on my dell 1525
[21:54] <biznock09> vigo: couldn't tell you
[21:54] <ddo> DasEi: ty
[21:54] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, yeah they look fine, and that does seem like the only difference.... no quiet/splash, 2 different kernels
[21:54] <biznock09> vigo: how could i check that?
[21:54] <fretegi2> anyone here use teamspeak on ubuntu?
[21:54] <lolmac> man, i'm starting to think ubuntu is cursed
[21:54] <DasEi> ddo: welcome !
[21:54] <ikonia> fretegi2: just ask your question
[21:54] <Happehwalrus> bawww
[21:55] <fretegi2> i cannot get mic to work in ubuntu, namely teamspeak
[21:55] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: should I have one that is a recovery mode or diagnostic one? like, should I delete the extras and then add one in?
[21:55] <Happehwalrus> I think I should have kept Winblows.
[21:55] <fretegi2> im thinking it has something to do with alsa but not sure how to troubleshoot
[21:55] <vigo> biznock09: Ping the source and check the output.
[21:55] <ikonia> fretegi2: does it work in ubuntu - or just not work in team speak
[21:55] <ikonia> Happehwalrus: it's called windows, it's not cool to call it stupid names
[21:55] <fretegi2> not working at all
[21:55] <fretegi2> just a 3.5mm mic
[21:55] <ikonia> fretegi2: ok - so the problem is nothing to do with teamspeak, so best not to ask for teamspeak help
[21:55] <meoblast001> ikonia: Monopolysoft Windows?
[21:56] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, usually there is a recovery option, how did you do this install?  I notice you have a realtime kernel installed
[21:56] <crazy2be> quote from the description of the "firefox" package in ubutu: This is a meta package that will point to the latest firefox package in ubuntu.
[21:56] <crazy2be> Don't remove this if you want to receive automatic major version upgrades for
[21:56] <crazy2be> this package in future.
[21:56] <biznock09> vigo: ok
[21:56] <ikonia> meoblast001: please don't
[21:56] <meoblast001> >.<
[21:56] <crazy2be> so why isn't it pointing to the 3.5 package?
[21:56] <ZoeyMarie> I updated the Juanty install that I had with the ubuntu studio packages (for audio production stuff).
[21:56] <manojmalik> net in ubuntu?
[21:56] <biznock09> vigo: how do i ping the source?
[21:56] <jer_> whats best way to see where my glib dirs are?
[21:56] <paissad-hp> so, i would like to rename all results of this command from the origal name , for example /usr/***/nphelix.so to the same name with the suffix .bak
[21:56] <fretegi2> so how do i troubleshoot the mic?
[21:57] <paissad-hp> locate nphelix.so | xargs mv ??????
[21:57] <ikonia> jer_: /usr/lib
[21:57] <fccf> crazy2be: firefox not shiretoko, 3.5 hasn't been branded yet, it is called shiretoko
[21:57] <paissad-hp> thanks for helping
[21:57] <jer_> hrm
[21:57] <vigo> biznock09: Do you have the IP of whatever you are trying to fetch from?
[21:57] <Stronze> i cant get my externel DVD drive to work and dev/cdrom doesnt exsist. need help getting it to run again
[21:57] <luthor64> ciao
[21:57] <crazy2be> so you won't brand the 3.5 update
[21:57] <biznock09> no
[21:57] <biznock09> vigo: no
[21:57] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: I updated the Juanty install that I had with the ubuntu studio packages (for audio production stuff).
[21:57] <fretegi2> brb
[21:57] <gbear142751> anyone have any opinions on convirt vs kvm?  isn't much out there... will be using kvm
[21:57] <crazy2be> because it's not the "official" browser
[21:58] <gbear142751> sorry... convrit vs virt-manager
[21:58] <crazy2be> no offence, but that's just stupid
[21:58] <fccf> crazy2be: it will be branded in the future ... just not yet, they are still working out the bugs
[21:58] <biznock09> vigo: i go to torrentz.com run a search and i am currently dl'n from piratebay.org
[21:58] <crazy2be> of firefox 3.5?
[21:58] <OmnipotentEntity> So, sometimes when I scp it stalls and when it stalls I can't scp again until I unload and load my driver.  AR5001X+ using ath_pci module (ath5k doesn't work) anyone have any idea wtf is going on?
[21:58] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: is it possible to get a recovery mode one since I don't have one?
[21:58] <guntbert> !ot | gbear142751
[21:59] <kjcole> Hi. When using OpenOffice.org Writer under Ubuntu (9.04 "Jaunty") and deleting a file from the File / Open dialog, how do I get it to use the Trash folder rather than deleting directly?
[21:59] <fccf> crazy2be: the windows and linux teams at mozilla seem to operate on a different schedule
[21:59] <vigo> biznock09: Oh ok, are you using a client or web browser?
[21:59] <crazy2be> ah
[21:59] <Fretegi_1> ok back, how do i trouble shoot athe mic, it does work in windows on the same machine
[21:59] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, well, now that I've looked at mine, the only thing that the 'recovery mode' does different is add the 'single' option to the kernel line, so it seems that the menu to which I referred earlier is just implemented by ubuntu's runlevel 1
[21:59] <crazy2be> so firefox 3.5 is not actually final for linux yet
[21:59] <crazy2be> ok
[21:59] <Fretegi_1> intrepid 64 bit is my ubuntu load
[21:59] <crazy2be> then it makes sence
[21:59] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: trWifi:  modprobe | grep usbcore
[21:59] <biznock09> web
[21:59] <biznock09> vigo: web
[22:00] <Happehwalrus> yey. DasEi's alive.
[22:00] <fccf> crazy2be: it is software, it is never final, because something else always changes, requireing change
[22:00] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie: so if you want a recovery mode option, just copy one of those and add 'dingle' to the end of the kernel line, and put something meaningful in the title
[22:00] <vigo> biznock09: Maybe you would have better results with one of the torrent clients.
[22:00] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: should return : rt2870sta,  is so ?
[22:00] <Happehwalrus> Wait wait.
[22:00] <Happehwalrus> What do you want me to do, DasEi?
[22:00] <biznock09> vigo: for example?
[22:00] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: trWifi:  modprobe | grep usbcore
[22:00] <Happehwalrus> modprobe?
[22:01] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: so keep one of the copies, change the title to have (recovery mode) in it, and then add 'single' to the end of the kernel line... sounds do-able...
[22:01] <Happehwalrus> Terminal, type in modprobe | grep usbcore?
[22:01] <thedude42>  yeah that will give you
[22:01] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, yeah that will give you a 'recovery mode' option at boot
[22:02] <Fretegi_1> got it guys thanks for ur help
[22:02] <Fretegi_1> take care
[22:02] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42:  the 'single' goes after the 'ro' at the end of the line, right? And what exactly does that do?
[22:02] <seyfarth> is there a way to extend my gnome panels onto my second monitor? ideally i'd like applications to show up on the bottom panel according to which monitor they're on
[22:03] <vigo> biznock09: There are many, I think BitTorrent is packaged with Gnome, but let me look.
[22:03] <googlix> fccf: people, as fccf said, to solve amaroks' 2 no sound problem just install xine: apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg phonon-backend-xine, thank you man!
[22:03] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, yeah, what that does is it tells the kernel to boot to single user mode
[22:03] <biznock09> vigo: thanks
[22:03] <ddo> how can i give efect to screen i see on youtube the desktop like square 8-)
[22:03] <lolmac> how do i become administrator of ubuntu?
[22:04] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, in single user mode you don't have most things, and the only user that can access the system is root
[22:04] <fccf> googlix: glad I could help
[22:04] <lolmac> it seems i don't have permission to do anything
[22:04] <ikonia> lolmac: what do you mean ?
[22:04] <ikonia> lolmac: have you used sudo
[22:04] <lolmac> how do i change that?
[22:04] <lolmac> ikonia: i want to change systemfiles
[22:04] <ikonia> lolmac: have you used sudo
[22:04] <lolmac> yes
[22:04] <googlix> fccf: :D
[22:04] <bietz> hi, I'm running 9.04 and I'm having sound problems (since 8.10) on my dell xps M1530. Sound simply doesn't work (and when it worked on 8.04, it was pretty bad). Do you know how I can solve this?
[22:04] <lolmac> wait
[22:04] <ikonia> lolmac: show me the command that's not working please
[22:04] <lolmac> koni
[22:04] <seyfarth> lolmac, you aren't advised to just log in as root. you should use the sudo prefix before commands in the terminal to do things requiring root
[22:04] <lolmac> ikonia:
[22:04] <lolmac> no
[22:04] <FloodBot2> lolmac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <ikonia> !sudo | lolmac
[22:05] <kilo> seyfarth, I think the only way to do what you're describing is to have 2 separate X Screen sessions running, which can cause a load of issues. But that would definitely solve the "I want to have programs show up on the panel of whatever monitor they're running on" issues
[22:05] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: so it's just good for repairing stuff? I'm a little confused about it, since I've never used it, but I can just check up some more information about it in the community documentation or something.
[22:05] <vigo> biznock09: Here is a list, http://search.ubuntu.com/results2.html?cx=009650792990864903260%3A-lsdjshi1tu&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=bittorrent&sa=Search#1195
[22:05] <ZoeyMarie> thank you a bunch. :)
[22:05] <innomen> i goto update manager the only update i see is "fakeroot" its 122 bytes and when i try to apply it i get... an error message that wont let me copy it
[22:05] <seyfarth> kilo, Aww, well thanks anyways.
[22:05] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: should I have a recovery mode for each kernal, or just one?
[22:05] <lolmac> ikonia: i want to change this content of an "txt" system file, i have to do it using terminal sudo, or can i edit the text normally?
[22:05] <ikonia> ZoeyMarie: you need it for each kernel
[22:05] <ZoeyMarie> like, should my realtime kernel have it's own recovery mode?
[22:06] <ZoeyMarie> ikonia: thanks.
[22:06] <vigo> biznock09: Here is the Ubuntu list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BitTorrent
[22:06] <ikonia> lolmac: how would you normally change the system file you want, what command would you normally do ?
[22:06] <innomen> Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic '--hide-main-window' '--non-interactive' '--parent-window-id' '37748773' '-o' 'Synaptic::closeZvt=true' '--progress-str' 'Please wait, this can take some time.' '--finish-str' 'Update is complete' '--set-selections-file' '/tmp/tmpqzAjXR' as user root. Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[22:06] <kilo> seyfarth, no worries... I just spent 2 days calibrating both my monitors.  I've been trying to learn the ins and outs of both regular X Screen and Twinview... Twinview is winning hands down so far for ease-of-use.
[22:07] <lolmac> ikonia: i don't know i don't use ubuntu i use windows
[22:07] <lolmac> i'm new to ubuntu
[22:07] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, yeah, you'd use it when you had problems you couldn't solve normally, mostly for broken file system problems.... and in all reality you don't even need to have an entry in your menu.list file because you can add the 'single' option at the grub boot menu at boot time
[22:07] <bietz> I tried some stuff like killing pulseaudio and reloading alsa, and sometimes it works, but sound still won't work on reboots
[22:07] <ohmletzboom> ..
[22:07] <ohmletzboom> Hi'there
[22:07] <ikonia> lolmac: ok - the first thing you should do is read the links ubottu sent you a minute ago, then go to help.ubuntu.com and get a basic overview/introduction to ubuntu
[22:07] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie: that is to say, whether you have one for each kernel or not is purly up to you
[22:07] <lolmac> on windows i just was administrator and edited the file
[22:07] <lolmac> ikonia: i used ubuntu before, but i got a problem with pppoconf
[22:08] <lolmac> ikonia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1239964
[22:08] <ikonia> lolmac: that doesn't change what I suggested, you just said you where new, so you need to get a base understanding of the basics
[22:08] <seyfarth> Anyone have any experience using chromium on ubuntu? I installed, but when I try to open it nothing happens
[22:08] <lolmac> ikonia: can i query you?
[22:08] <ikonia> lolmac: why ?
[22:08] <fccf> bietz: by killing pulse you have proven that pulse is broken on your system... we hope to have pulse running better, but until it does, uninstalling pulseaudio may solve some of your problems, allowing alsa to take over and do the job
[22:08] <ikonia> lolmac: just ask in the channel
[22:08] <lolmac> i don't want to spam the channel
[22:09] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: thank you
[22:09] <bietz> fccf I have in fact uninstalled pulseaudio
[22:09] <ikonia> lolmac: you don't need to spam anything, check the links ubottu sent you and the basics on http://help.ubuntu.com
[22:09] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, no prob
[22:09] <ikonia> !sudo > lolmac
[22:09] <lolmac> ikonia: can you take a look at the link i showed you?
[22:09] <kilo> does anyone have any suggestions of some drivers I might need to download? I'm trying to view youtube and certain vids will load while others will not. any ideas why this may be? I'm running 9.04 and mozilla 3.0
[22:09] <ikonia> lolmac: I don't need to, check the documentation you've just been pointed at
[22:09] <bietz> fccf but sound still doesn't work unless I do an alsa reload or something from command line, and after that, sound quality is still very bad
[22:10] <thedude42> kilo: flash
[22:10] <vigo> !flash | kilo
[22:10] <kilo> thedude42, I have flash. The most recent plugin from what I can tell
[22:10] <thedude42> kilo: you probably want to get linux flash 10
[22:11] <Stronze> i cant get my externel DVD drive to work and dev/cdrom doesnt exsist. need help getting it to run again
[22:11] <ikonia> !gksudo > lolmac
[22:11] <lolmac> ikonia: i'm not english native, i know the normal stuff about english, but specific terms can get confusing
[22:11] <kilo> thedude42, ahhh....  that could be it!  thanks!
[22:11] <fccf> bietz: really cannot help you further ,... have you tried searching around to see what other people are writing about your particular hardware conifguration, ubuntuforums.org is an incredible resource
[22:11] <lolmac> ikonia: i saw a suggestion of an user in this link, but i didn't understand it quite well
[22:11] <kilo> vigo, thanks for the link
[22:11] <thedude42> kilo: did you download and install it from directions on a site, or just from the ubuntu repositories with apt-get?
[22:11] <ikonia> lolmac: I'm talking to you in native English, the links ubottu have just sent you are very basic, you'll have no problems
[22:11] <ikonia> lolmac: what don't you understand in that thread
[22:11] <vigo> kilo: You are welcome.
[22:12] <fccf> lolmac: perhaps we can get someone who speaks your native language .. what is your native tounge?
[22:12] <lolmac> !flood
[22:12] <lolmac> fccf: it's just a word
[22:12] <lolmac> i'll show it to  you
[22:12] <ikonia> lolmac: what line don't you understand
[22:12] <kilo> thedude42, I downloaded the adobe verision
[22:12] <bietz> fccf: all I found that worked was that tip on reloading alsa, but I guess I can search deeper...
[22:12] <ikonia> lolmac: what word - say the word
[22:12] <kilo> version*
[22:12] <thedude42> kilo, disregard, that link will take care of you
[22:12] <ddo> how can i give efect to my ubuntu :)
[22:12] <lolmac> but it is on a context
[22:12] <lolmac> i will paste on ubuntu paste
[22:13] <kilo> thedude42, vigo, unfortunately, it says I already have it installed.   =\
[22:13] <lolmac> Re: Auto eth0 disappeared and stopped working
[22:13] <lolmac> Try commenting out everything except the two (top) lines about "lo", and reboot. If it messes things up, you can put it back, but if an interface is defined in /etc/network/interfaces, NM is not supposed to touch it.
[22:13] <lolmac> what is commenting out?
[22:13] <ikonia> lolmac: putting a # in front of the lines to make the system not read them
[22:14] <lolmac> thanks
[22:14] <kilo> thedude42, vigo, Like I said, some vids work, others don't... it's the wierdest thing...
[22:14] <fccf> lolmac kinda like rem in dos batch file except we use the #
[22:14] <thedude42> kilo: are you using 64bit or 32bit ubuntu?
[22:14] <vigo> kilo: Is it enabled and are you running any plugins that might thwart it?
[22:14] <kilo> thedude42, 32
[22:15] <lolmac> ikonia, fccf, have you heard of any network eth0 stop working?
[22:15] <ddo> how can i find and install compiz fusion?
[22:15] <lolmac> recently
[22:15] <mnaines> kilo: What Flash version do you have?
[22:15] <thedude42> kilo, so you did sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[22:15] <ikonia> lolmac: yes, the reason is explained in the forum thread
[22:15] <lolmac> thanks
[22:16] <kilo> thedude42, vigo, this is a very fresh install, so not many plug-ins installed at all. I pastebin'd my About Plugins here:   http://pastebin.com/d494ac875
[22:16] <zleap> mine drops but then the router crashes
[22:16] <mnaines> ikonia: Would Wipe restore a drive back to like-new condition?
[22:16] <kilo> thedude42, I did it through adobe's website.
[22:16] <ikonia> mnaines: do you mean a tool called "wipe" ?
[22:17] <kilo> mnaines, Flash 10... Just installed yesterday
[22:17] <lolmac> ikonia: do you know about setting adsl, or lan?
[22:17] <ikonia> lolmac: what about it ?
[22:17]  * one2abuse is away: Gone away for now
[22:17] <ikonia> one2abuse: please remove that script
[22:17] <mnaines> ikonia: Yes...I am using it as we speak, but I am wondering if, after using it, the drive would be as it was out of the box
[22:17] <thedude42> kilo: here's a forum thread with a suggestion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567&highlight=FOT004
[22:17] <Stronze> O_O i unpluged and replugged dvd player into laptop and it started to work
[22:17] <ikonia> mnaines: never used it to be honest so don't know
[22:17] <kilo> thedude42, thank you!
[22:18] <lolmac> i've used ubuntu, a few times before, in the previous timess (6.0.6, 7.04) i used pppoeconf to configure my adsl internet connection (a bridged modem accessed through a wireless router)
[22:18] <mnaines> ikonia: As my brother always says, "there is only one way to find out"
[22:18] <Happehwalrus> Mom blames school district for child's porn site visits
[22:18] <lolmac> this time i read the help topics of ubuntu
[22:19] <lolmac> and set it through the network icon next to the date and time
[22:19] <mnaines> Happehwalrus: And that surprises you because...?
[22:19] <lolmac> i went  to adsl, and added a connection, but i couldn't seem to use the eth0 and adsl connection 1 at the same time
[22:20] <lolmac> i had to use on or the other not both
[22:20] <lolmac> so i could access the internet when connected to the adsl connection, but i couldn't access the other computers in the network
[22:21] <lolmac> when i activated the eth0 connection, it was vice-versa
[22:21] <kilo> thedude42, That did it!  Thank you! The tutorial that he gave worked perfect for deleting the plugins and reinstalling.
[22:22] <mnaines> ikonia: Is it just me, or does it seem like Linux is getting plagued with the same problem Windows is plagued with?
[22:22] <lolmac> ikonia: so i went back to pppoeconf and set it to connect to the adsl, as about the same time i started the ubuntu updates.
[22:22] <ikonia> mnaines: don't think so
[22:22] <thedude42> kilo: yeah, I had to do something like that to get things working on 64bit as well
[22:22] <mnaines> ikonia: Windows is plagued with inexperienced users who think the computer will do everything for them
[22:23] <ikonia> mnaines: that's not for this channel
[22:23] <thedude42> mnaines, computing in general has the same problem
[22:23] <lolmac> ikonia: after i rebooted t the computer the auto eth0 stopped working, i remembered i had some problems with pppoeconf when i used it previously, now i don't know if the problem is the update or ppoeconf
[22:23] <Zylstra_> Hello, in an attempted upgrade to 9.10, I have lost control of my mouse. How do I fix this?
[22:23] <alchamech> hello every one, can someone help me with a LCD monitor problem? ive looked everywhere
[22:23] <lolmac> and i'm looking into it
[22:23] <guntbert> mnaines: thats neither true nor helpful
[22:23] <fccf> !karmic | Zylstra_
[22:23] <kilo> thedude42, awesome, well thanks again... now I just need to work on getting my javascripts to run more smooth.
[22:23] <Zylstra_> Righto
[22:23] <RUNiX> Who is speak russian?
[22:23] <fccf> !ru | RUNiX
[22:23] <thedude42> Zylstra_, a touchpad by chance?
[22:24] <fccf> RUNiX: /join #ubuntu-ru
[22:24] <lolmac> ikonia: i wanted to know what people use to connect to adsl
[22:24] <RUNiX> hello
[22:24] <index3> re
[22:24] <thedude42> kilo, try firefox 3.5, aka Shiretoko, supposedly it does javascript better
[22:24] <lolmac> pppoeconf or the connection that "blocks" the network
[22:24] <RUNiX> ubuntu 9.04?
[22:25] <alchamech> how can i get my pc to recognize my new lcd monitor?
[22:25] <guntbert> ikonia: as to lolmac's problem: wasn't there a setting to prevent network manager from connecting two networks at once?
[22:25] <alchamech> im running 9.40
[22:25] <ikonia> guntbert: depends on how many network cards he has etc etc
[22:26] <kilo> thedude42, I'll give it a try here in a bit... if I can get 3.0 to work, I think I'd prefer that for support purposes
[22:26] <fccf> RUNiX: Да, они говорят на русский #ubuntu-ru
[22:26] <coldpizza721i__> how do i put a boot flag on sdb1
[22:26] <CyberKitsune> Hello
[22:26] <fccf> !hi | cyberkits
[22:27] <foofish> coldpizza721i__: cfdisk will do it. probably gparted too
[22:27] <lolmac> ikonia: but this problem is in one card, this card (ethernet) is used to connect the network, and in the network there is a modem that grants access to the internet, normally the system has a connection to the network, and i create a connection to the internet(adsl) that dials, with username and password
[22:27] <coldpizza721i__> is there like a command to do it in terminal
[22:27] <foofish> coldpizza721i__: cfdisk
[22:27] <CyberKitsune> I'm having a problem booting into Ubuntu after I moved some partitions and removed my Mac OS X partition from my system.
[22:27] <ikonia> lolmac: it's getting a dhcp address from the modem that is not on the same network as the other PC's - it is a fault with your network design
[22:27] <guntbert> ikonia: maybe I misremember too :)
[22:28] <nibbler> lolmac: this is something you should not use the network manager to, i'd say
[22:28] <foofish> coldpizza721i__: i don't know a one-liner off the top of my head, though
[22:28] <CyberKitsune> I think moving the partions broke GRUB or something
[22:28] <ADmiral> Hi, I've just restarted ALSA with this: "sudo /etc/init.d/alsasound restart" and now "lsmod | grep snd" reports NO sound modules loaded! What do I do (except reboot) ?
[22:28] <soreau> ddo: Compiz is already installed. Enable it by setting sys>prefs>appearance>Visual Effects tab to anything other than None
[22:28] <CyberKitsune> I am currently in the Ubuntu Live/InstallCD, can anyone assist me in fixing GRUB?
[22:29] <RUNiX> ru
[22:29] <fccf> coldpizza721i__: use cfdisk ... it will read your partitions ... select sdb1 and use b to toggle the bootable flag
[22:29] <lolmac> nibbler: but the network manager is the only thing that manages network?
[22:29] <lolmac> because it works perfectly the adsl and the eth0 i don't undertand why they are separated
[22:29] <coldpizza721i__> thanks
[22:29] <fccf> RUNiX: /join #ubuntu-ru
[22:29] <RUNiX> Русские?
[22:29] <nibbler> lolmac: /etc/network/interfaces, /etc/resolv.conf do, too ;-) if you want to setup a router, use these. if you want to connect your computer just to a network, use nm
[22:30] <mostafa_> how not to compare the same files via diff?
[22:30] <foofish> coldpizza721i__: maybe "parted /dev/sdb1 boot on" will work
[22:30] <lolmac> nibbler: i just want to connect to a network
[22:30] <phenom_> How can i see what kind of x.org version ive got?
[22:30] <mnaines> !ru | RUNiX
[22:30] <blizzkid> lo all, can I start a client's notify-send from a server so that it notify-sends on the client and doesn't complain about X11 initialization failing on the server?
[22:30] <ikonia> lolmac: you can't be on the interent and your private network at the same time - they sound like they are on different address ranges
[22:30] <coldpizza721i__> tony$:cfdisk "Fatal error Cannot open disk drive"
[22:30] <CyberKitsune> what command would you use to fix a broken GRUB?
[22:30] <nibbler> lolmac: sorry, misread then. thought you want to connect to two networks, and hook up one network with the other, sorry
[22:30] <ikonia> CyberKitsune: depends how/why it's broken
[22:31] <mostafa_> how not to compare the same files via diff?
[22:31] <lolmac> nibbler: it's not like that
[22:31] <CyberKitsune> ikonia: I removes OSX and resized Ubuntu, and GRUB fails to load now.
[22:31] <CyberKitsune> removed*
[22:31] <nibbler> CyberKitsune: basically boot a rescue system, mount old system, chroot into it, run grub-install <parameters>
[22:31] <nibbler> lolmac: sorry then, misunderstood oyu
[22:31] <CyberKitsune> Ubuntu is still there
[22:31] <ikonia> !grub > CyberKitsune
[22:31] <fax> CyberKitsune is a cool name
[22:32] <coldpizza721i__> fccf....im getting an error
[22:32] <CyberKitsune> thanks ^^
[22:32] <ddo> how can i install compiz for 9.04 ?
[22:32] <fccf> coldpizza721i__: running as sudo?
[22:32] <foofish> coldpizza721i__: reading the documentation i guess it should be "parted /dev/sdb set 1 boot on"
[22:32] <DasEi> !compiz | ddo
[22:32] <fccf> ddo: do you have hardware that supports compiz, something to check before trying
[22:33] <coldpizza721i__> fccf forgot about that
[22:33] <blizzkid> anyone on the notify-send?
[22:33] <ddo> DasEi: compiz effects
[22:33] <DasEi> ddo: you can enable them, it's in your menu
[22:33] <lolmac> nibbler: in another system for an example, i create a connection to the network (a router that is connected to a modem) (the router is set to dchp automatically, it distributes IPs to the computers), than i create a dial up connection adsl to enter the internet, the adsl internet connection can only work if the network connection is activated
[22:34] <coldpizza721i__> fccf....sdb doesnt show up...only my 3 sda partitions
[22:34] <soreau> ddo: Like I said, it's already installed. And I topld you how to enable it
[22:34] <soreau> told*
[22:34] <foofish> coldpizza721i__: you need to run sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb
[22:34] <coldpizza721i__> k
[22:34] <coldpizza721i__> thanks
[22:35] <ddo> DasEi: i dont see Compiz fusion efect on my prefernces menu or admin... :/
[22:35] <Happehwalrus> http://hkfjbmo2rdjun56b.onion/ <-- what the crap is that?
[22:35] <fccf> coldpizza721i__: sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb
[22:35] <ikonia> Happehwalrus: 1.) is that anything to do with ubuntu 2.) that's not a valid url
[22:35] <DasEi> ddo: system, preferences, dig some more
[22:36] <seyfarth> how do I see how much disk space ubuntu is using/has free?
[22:36] <DasEi> seyfarth: df -h
[22:36] <soreau> ddo: System>Applications>Appearance>Visual Effects tab
[22:36] <seyfarth> DasEi: Thanks!
[22:36] <lolmac> ikonia: do you know if forum has more complete info on this matter? or is it alike the ubuntu help topics
[22:36] <CyberKitsune> Well, lets
[22:36] <CyberKitsune> whoops
[22:36] <ikonia> lolmac: it's not a problem, it's normal behaviour
[22:36] <CyberKitsune> *Let's see if the fix worked
[22:36] <ddo> soreau: i ll check now
[22:37] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:37] <DasEi> hi sebsebseb
[22:37] <lolmac> ikonia: i know
[22:37] <sebsebseb> DasEi: :)
[22:37] <fccf> sebsebseb: good of you to join us
[22:38] <sebsebseb> fccf: hi
[22:38] <lolmac> ikonia: but do you know how to set an adsl connection?
[22:38] <ikonia> lolmac: you're already doing it as you said you could connect to the network
[22:38] <ddo> soreau: there a 3 radio button none normal extra which one is the compiz?
[22:39] <soreau> ddo: Anything other than None and compiz will be running
[22:39] <coldpizza721i__> uggh i got into cfdisk sdb once but there was no option for the boot flag like there was in sda
[22:39] <coldpizza721i__> but now im getting an error again trying to get into it
[22:39] <fccf> ddo: that is simple-ccsm ... if you want advanced .. there is !ccsm
[22:39] <fccf> !ccsm | ddo
[22:40] <kruk> ;)
[22:40] <ddo> soreau: should i reboot after choohsing?
[22:40] <soreau> ddo: No
[22:40] <soreau> fccf: gnome-appearance-properties != simple-ccsm
[22:40] <coldpizza721i__> bad primary partition 0
[22:40] <kruk> Samochody
[22:40] <ddo> soreau: damn why there isnt :/
[22:40] <kruk> Motocykle
[22:40] <kruk> Części samochodowe
[22:40] <kruk> Części motocyklowe
[22:40] <kruk> Inne pojazdy i łodzie
[22:40] <kruk> Przyczepy, naczepy
[22:40] <soreau> ddo: But when you do log in again, it will still be the selection you chose
[22:40] <FloodBot2> kruk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:41] <fccf> soreau: yes, I know, compizconfig-settings-manager is not simple, in fact advanced
[22:41] <ddo> soreau: i ll relog for try
[22:41] <CyberKitsune> Sadly, the grub-install didn't seem to solve my problem... When I boot up my Mac, It goes into BIOS mode like it should, but states "No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key"
[22:42] <CyberKitsune> Pressing any key doesn't have any effect as well
[22:42] <soreau> fccf: simple-ccsm and gnome-appearance-properties have nothing to do with ccsm. They are three entirely different programs
[22:42] <Guest6198> wow i didnt think that this program was still running
[22:42] <mgv2> why i cant see preview image of flvs?
[22:42] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: What problem are you having?  Sorry for not paying attention, I was busy talking in IM
[22:43] <coldpizza721i__> fccf its not working
[22:43] <fccf> soreau: now I see your point,
[22:43] <fccf> coldpizza721i__: details please
[22:43] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: I removed my Mac OS X Patron and moved my Ubuntu patron to give ubuntu more space, now GRUB fails to start even after manually reinstalling!
[22:44] <fccf> CyberKitsune: I think you need to set the boot flag on the grub drive
[22:44] <CyberKitsune> fccf: ?
[22:44] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Did you set the mount point and boot flag?
[22:44] <coldpizza721i__> sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb -> FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition ends in the final partial cylind
[22:44] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: I don't know
[22:45] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: You should manually specify how the partitions are set up.  Choose a mount point, make the drive bootable, and try again
[22:45] <coldpizza721i__> fccf any ideas
[22:45] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: In gparted in the livecd, right?
[22:45] <blizzkid> lo all, can I start a client's notify-send from a server so that it notify-sends on the client and doesn't complain about X11 initialization failing on the server?
[22:46] <mralexandro> i have a problem. after uninstalling wine by manually deleting .wine folder. i have not been able to install it again. neither trough synaptics or terminal. please help someone
[22:46] <lolmac> ikonia
[22:46] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Yes, you can click on "manually change the partitions" on the install screen
[22:46] <fccf> coldpizza721i__: looks like cfdisk doesn't like your partition, It could be bad or was imaged improperly, that last cylinder being partial, seems like it had trouble completing the write
[22:46] <coldpizza721i__> its fat32 micro sd
[22:46] <lolmac> i was using the normal connection to the network that comes with ubuntu auto eth0, and set the adsl with pppoeconf
[22:46] <fccf> coldpizza721i__: what is on it?
[22:46] <s0|> hi, how do I uninstall patches?
[22:46] <ab2qik> Hi, whats the procedure to get jaunty to access a vista partition. Vista & jaunty dual boot on a laptop. Thanks.
[22:47] <lolmac> it worked fine, untill i rebooted and the auto eth0 stopped working, just the wireless works know
[22:47] <losha> mralexandro: deleting .wine just removes the config portion of wine. The binaries and library are still there. Have you tried apt-get install --reinstall wine ?
[22:47] <lolmac> i will restartt know
[22:47] <coldpizza721i__> some files...im trying to make a bootable ubuntu installer
[22:47] <lolmac> now
[22:47] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Do you have your LiveCD set to save the changes?  That may be your problem.  It is not saving the changes
[22:47] <fccf> !fstab | ab2qik
[22:47] <paipimenta> hello.... I'm trying to update BIOS on my Compaq Presario 6016US... I downloaded the Rompaq .exe and extracted it onto a FAT formatted usb (contains CPQFlash.exe, CPQFlash.txt, and ROM.CAB)   I also burned a FreeDOS LiveCD.... but when I booted from FreeDOS CD, I couldn't read the USB drive... how do I do this? (I'm running linux, so hence the need to do this to update BIOS)
[22:47] <Join-D> mralexandro: sudo apt-get autoremove wine ?t? then install again, correct me if i am wrong
[22:47] <coldpizza721i__> i have to go eat...ill try it later
[22:48] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: It's the Ubuntu 9.04 Install/Live CD, I ran some commands in terminal to reinstall grub, but that didn't seem to work
[22:48] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Maybe it is because you're running the liveCD...LiveCDs have to be manually configured to save the changes.  I am guessing that it is not working because it cannot save the changes
[22:48] <mralexandro> losha, thanks trying this now, Join-D, thanks will try that second if needed
[22:49] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: To do it before, I mounted my ubuntu disk in the liveCD, and wrote the bootloader to disk...
[22:49] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Have you tried going through the Ubuntu installer instead of running live?
[22:50] <ab2qik> fccf, so if vista is on c:\   then what should the fstab entry be.  F.S:  /dev/sda1, Type: NTFS, etc.. Vista is on 1st partition.
[22:50] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: It's the installer CD. But, no, I have not yet.
[22:50] <ddo> damn no compiz :/
[22:50] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Try that first
[22:50] <CyberKitsune> I already had Ubuntu installed and working
[22:50] <CyberKitsune> But Modified the disk's parts to give ubuntu more space
[22:50] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Try reinstalling Ubuntu and see if it works that way
[22:51] <s0|> seriously has anyone had problems with the latest networking related patches?
[22:51] <s0|> this is ********* junk
[22:51] <mralexandro> as usual on this irc loving channel. SOLVED! :D
[22:51] <mralexandro> losha, SOLVED!:D
[22:51] <fccf> ab2qik: er,um yes, no ... in fstab partitions are identifyd by UUID ... please read further ... and remember you will still need a place to mount it like /media/vista
[22:51] <soreau> ddo: How do you know compiz isn't running?
[22:51] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: I can't really reinstall it, I have data on that disk that I need to kepp
[22:51] <CyberKitsune> keep*
[22:51] <CyberKitsune> The data is still there
[22:51] <mralexandro> losha, why did it not work to reinstall using synaptics package manager?
[22:51] <CyberKitsune> I can mount the disk and everything is there
[22:52] <CyberKitsune> but the bootloader won't work at all
[22:52] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Well, until you try reinstalling, I do not think you will be able to get it to work
[22:52] <ddo> anyone knows how can i see compiz fusion manager?
[22:53] <soreau> ! ccsm | ddo
[22:53] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: There should be an option on the installation menu to repair the current installation
[22:53] <soreau> ubottu isn't here
[22:53] <losha> mralexandro: Dunno, I don't use synaptics much. I assume there's a way to reinstall things in synaptic?
[22:53] <soreau> ddo: If you come to #compiz I will help you get it all workinf
[22:53] <soreau> working*
[22:53] <ab2qik> fccf, if an incorrect FSTAB entry goes in, can it stop jaunty from booting up?
[22:54] <fccf> soreau: I beleive ubottu is being updated, and is running miserably slow
[22:54] <soreau> fccf: It's not even in this channel
[22:55] <fccf> soreau: not even connected to the network at the moment
[22:55] <mnaines> soreau: Ubottu has been taken offline for routine maintenance
[22:55] <losha> ab2qik: usually an incorrect fstab entry will be ignored, but if it prevents something crucial from mounting, then it could prevent a successful bootup. If you're not sure about it, comment it out for booting...
[22:55] <mralexandro> losha, it is! but it did not work to reinstall using synaptics yesterday, and it did not work using terminal commando i found in the install cs4 in wine guide, and nothing worked. maybe the fact taht i uninstalled before i restarded computer and then installed it. was par of the solutions, cause i had only reinstalled it before now. but now i uninstalled yesterday and then excecuted your command.
[22:55] <ddo> soreau:ok
[22:55] <CyberKitsune> Oh
[22:55] <CyberKitsune> There are no flags set on the drive
[22:55] <rayve> Hello all, just a quick question - I'm trying to get IRC to work via Pidgin, but I can't choose it as an option when I try to "join chat" - if there is a better room for this, please let me know :)
[22:56] <mnaines> rayve: Did you enable IRC in the pidgin account menu?
[22:56] <soreau> fccf: Right. and it can't be slow if it isn't even here ;)
[22:56] <losha> mralexandro: well, if you didn't use install --reinstall, then I think apt-get will just ignore it...
[22:56] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: It seems that the problem is that there are no flags set on the drive... but which one do I set? bios_grub or boot?
[22:56] <rayve> yep I did, mnaines
[22:56] <rayve> I used irc.freenode.net
[22:57] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: The answer is obvious.  If you want to boot from the drive, set the flag for Boot
[22:57] <fccf> soreau: hey even I have to go down for routine maintinance, i.e. sleep
[22:58] <mnaines> rayve: Does it show the option of choosing between Yahoo and IRC in the chat room list?
[22:58] <gemini> torrent server help
[22:58] <CyberKitsune> I'm still getting the no bootable devices error >.<
[22:58] <rayve> oops may have figured it out - I switched from Invisible to Available and now it shows up. can't be invisible in IRC, eh?
[22:58] <benste> Hi does so know whether seahorse and evolution will work together for PGP validating, and signing ?
[22:58] <CyberKitsune> Maybe it's because Macs work differently
[22:59] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Could be, or it could be your Live setup is not saving it
[22:59] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: Let me reboot, and see if it saved
[22:59] <mralexandro> has anyone here had the chance to install cs4 in wine? i have heard it is possible so..
[22:59] <CyberKitsune> maybe I need to set the bios_grub flag too
[23:00] <fccf> mralexandro: I have heard of people having success .. perhaps ask in #winehq
[23:00] <Bof> What is acpi?
[23:00] <mnaines> mralexandro: It is possible, but there is no guarantee it will work properly.  You need to go to Wine's website and search the database of games to see which ones will work in wine
[23:00] <mralexandro> fccf, thanks mnaines, thanks
[23:01] <fccf> Bof: Advanced Configuration and Power Interface ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acpi
[23:01] <Lake_> when I list partitions with fdisk -l I seem to miss one SATA HDD I recently put in the machine.. I assume I can't see it because the motherboard doesn't see it ?
[23:01] <iskin> What is better for to use for game emulation, Cedega or Codeweavers Games?
[23:01] <Bof> Thanks, fccf !!
[23:01] <losha> mralexandro: Seems very version dependent: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14514
[23:01] <foofish> Lake_: you have to tell fdisk which device to look at
[23:01] <gemini> torrent server help
[23:01] <foofish> Lake_: e.g. fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[23:02] <fccf> !details | gemini
[23:02] <losha> Lake_: that would be my guess. Did that particular disk get probed during boot? (type dmesg and look for it in the output?)
[23:02] <mnaines> fccf, you forgot Ubottu is offline
[23:02] <Lake_> foofish: well by fdisk -l he listed what seems to be all that he can, he listed /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdb2 etc
[23:02] <gemini> torrentflux alternatives | console only
[23:02] <foofish> Lake_: ok
[23:02] <Lake_> foofish: so I see no reason for it to miss a whole disk unless it doesn't see it
[23:03] <foofish> Lake_: oops, i was looking at the manpage for the bsd fdisk
[23:03] <fccf> mnaines: yeah, I guess I did? gemini: our bot isn't working, uh you probably want rtorrent
[23:03] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: The boot flag is still there, should I try the bios_grub flag?
[23:03] <Lake_> losha: I don't know if that is still in dmesg .. I'll take a look, is there any way to ask for a reprobing of hdds?
[23:03] <gemini> cool
[23:03] <xkennhoobb-it> hello
[23:03] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: All I can tell you is to try reinstalling Ubuntu manually
[23:03]  * one2abuse is back.
[23:04] <foofish> Lake_: if it's not in the dmesg output, it'll probably be in the bootup messages in the syslog
[23:04]  * mnaines usually keeps a spare hard drive lying around to back up important data on a regular basis
[23:04] <losha> Lake_: no, there's no way to reprobe a device that isn't hot-pluggable. Any disk that doesn't probe at boot time is considered seriously faulty...
[23:04] <Lake_> losha: well I just got it from Seagate, so I'm assuming it's alive
[23:04] <Bof> Does installing acpi should help to keep my cpu from being high when idle?
[23:04] <nibbler> Lake_: you can reprobe scsi devices afaik, rescan-scsi.sh or smth.
[23:04] <mnaines> Lake_: Is the drive recognised in the BIOS?
[23:05] <Lake_> foofish: I'll have to google that, it's probably somewhere in /var/log I'd guess
[23:05] <Lake_> nibbler: hum ok Ill man that
[23:05] <foofish> Lake_: yes, /var/log/syslog iirc
[23:05] <fccf> Bof: no, cpufreq does that .. acpi is automatic, if it works, it won't cause problems
[23:05] <teknozwizard> .....the joys of waiting for updates to download and install....(sighs)
[23:06] <Bof> It says acpi not installed.... should I install it?  I'm not sure if I understand well
[23:06] <fccf> teknozwizard: the joy of having a fast internet connection, no waiting
[23:07] <ab2qik> losha, If the fstab entry is commented out, how can it be tested to see if it works in the first place?
[23:07] <fccf> Bof: there is a good chance if it wasn't installed it is something you don't need... perhaps we can get you going in the right direction
[23:07] <losha> Lake_: it may just as easily be DOA. Check cabling & power. Can you feel it vibrating i.e. is it even spinning when the power goes on?
[23:07] <teknozwizard> fccf: heh, yeah. I know. Still being brand new and finally having an Ubuntu that'll use my wireless card to connect to the internet is exhilirating and I don't want to have to wait another ..... 14 minutes for the downloads to install ^_^
[23:07] <GyrosGeier> hi
[23:08] <teknozwizard> fccf: though, I'm worried how JJ will handle my WPA2 encryption once I get home....
[23:08] <GyrosGeier> I'm editing a page in the Ubuntu wiki, and need to insert a reference to a package. Is there a macro for that?
[23:08] <losha> ab2qik: comment it out while booting, then uncomment it and type 'sudo mount -a' after everything is booted. If the entry is good, the disk will mount...
[23:08] <Bof> Ok... I'm searching cause my cpu is a bit to high on my toshiba U300... though it could be that?
[23:09] <fccf> GyrosGeier: a matter of inserting a link [[link|packagename]]
[23:09] <mnaines> teknozwizard: I use WPA2 on Ubuntu Jaunty with no problems
[23:09] <ab2qik> losha, Thanks.
[23:09] <malv0> are there still performance issues with the intel driver in karmic?
[23:09] <teknozwizard> Yeah?
[23:09] <malv0> neverball seems kinda choppy
[23:09] <teknozwizard> I'd read somewhere that JJ had some issues with WPA2.
[23:10] <teknozwizard> fccf: another question I have for you. I've got a WD SES 320gb external that I use as a backup drive.
[23:10] <mnaines> teknozwizard: I haven't had any issues with WPA2
[23:10] <pippin418> i have a sed command question
[23:10] <fccf> teknozwizard: that is usually hardware dependant, some work better than others
[23:10] <losha> pippin418: ask...
[23:10] <teknozwizard> fccf: Question - Why can't I mount it?
[23:11] <pippin418> Iosha: well I need to remove everything in between '<' and '>', it's an XML file that i'm extracting data out of
[23:11] <fccf> !fstab | teknozwizard - read these how-to's
[23:11] <teknozwizard> fccf/mnaines: After dumping HH, and installing JJ, JJ picked up my wireless card perfectly. Didn't have to modify anything, it just started working. So, hopefully it won't have any problems once I get it home.
[23:11] <fccf> did it again
[23:11] <mnaines> teknozwizard: Check the permissions.  I have that problem.  If I set up through gparted, it won't let me mount, but if I set up through fdisk, it works just fine
[23:12] <teknozwizard> mnaines: Fun part is I've no idea about either of those ^_^
[23:12] <pippin418> Iosha: currently I have: grep  $tag xml.xml | sed 's/^<.*>\([^<].*\)<.*>$/\1/' | tr -d '\t'
[23:12] <fccf> Ubottucopy: teknozwizard: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[23:12] <Lake_> losha: so yes, it's spinning
[23:12] <teknozwizard> mnaines: I can see the external in my "Places" but when I go to mount it, it won't actually open the folder to view the files. I suppose I can only assume that it's mounted, but I can't get it to go into the actual drive.
[23:12] <Lake_> but no the BIOS does not see it
[23:13] <losha> pippin418: that's quite a hieroglyphic. Does it work?
[23:13] <fccf> teknozwizard: have you tried accessing it as root ... gksudo nautilus
[23:13] <Lake_> you'd think it would be the other 3 PATA drives that would screw things up but no, it's this one SATA instead
[23:13] <fccf> teknozwizard: then /media/whateveritismountedas
[23:13] <pippin418> Iosha: it displays the tag and it's contents. i only want the contents. i'm trying to rid the file of the tags
[23:13] <losha> Lake_: so what does 'dmesg | egrep sd' say?
[23:13] <nibbler> pippin418: use some xml parser for that!!
[23:14] <mnaines> teknozwizard: Its the permissions...You need to change it to your username and user group
[23:14] <Bof> My cpu running too much on my toshiba U300...any idea?
[23:14] <coldpizza721i__> hmm.. can i install ubuntu remotely
[23:14] <Lake_> losha: I don't think it's going to say anything since the BIOS doesn't list the SATA drive but who knows... maybe the bios doesn't list sata
[23:14] <nibbler> bof: use top to find out which process is using it up
[23:14] <mnaines> teknozwizard: in a terminal, type in sudo chown username:group /media/diskname
[23:14] <Lake_> losha:  i.e. I'm booting
[23:14] <pippin418> nibble: tried that. none are available for mac (what i'm using, sed is a bash command so figured i could get helped here)
[23:14] <nibbler> coldpizza721i__: yes you can
[23:14] <fccf> Bof: or system>administrator>system moniter to see processes
[23:15] <coldpizza721i__> how so....what should i look into
[23:15] <Bof> Well I did... but it doesn't match the system monitor or neither the sum of the processes usage
[23:15] <pippin418> nibbler: tried that. none are available for mac (what i'm using, sed is a bash command so figured i could get helped here)
[23:15] <Aranel> How can I install Ubuntu from command line? I cant use graphic or safe graphic mode.
[23:15] <losha> Lake_: that's a bad sign. Are you saying the mobo has sata ports but doesn't admit the disk exists from the bios?
[23:15] <Flannel> Aranel: You'll want to get the Alternate CD
[23:15] <Bof> And my battery doesn't last...
[23:15] <teknozwizard> mnaines: invalid group
[23:16] <fccf> pippin418: sed has an unofficial channel ##sed .. you might get some help there
[23:16] <nibbler> pippin418: there is for sure some perl module etc
[23:16] <Aranel> Flannel: Isnt it possible to do any other way? Downloading something else is not cool with 1Mbit DL =)
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Aranel: Are you  sure that's a good CD, did you md5sum?  Also how much RAM do you have?   Since for example on 128MB RAM, the later desktop CD's probably won't boot up properly
[23:16] <Bof> In fact, Xorg seems to use a lot of cpu
[23:16] <mnaines> Technoviking: Use your username as the group
[23:16] <Lake_> losha: I'm saying that the mobo has SATA ports but the 'list disks' only has space for 4 hdds a.k.a. the pata controllers & 2 disks per controller
[23:16] <pippin418> nibbler: they all failed to work or compile
[23:16] <pippin418> fccf: i'll try that
[23:16] <teknozwizard> fccf: gksudo returns - "Unable to add monitor: Operation not supported."
[23:16] <Aranel> sebsebseb: Im sure its more than 128mb, its a brand new notebook, but i dont know exactly what he use, its my friends.
[23:16] <Flannel> Aranel: The Desktop CD unfortunately can't.  Well, I guess you could try the "Install only" option, which just starts ubiquity in a spartan GUI environment.  Depending on what the problem is, you could try that.
[23:17] <fccf> teknozwizard: still works
[23:17] <losha> Lake_: poke around the bios a bit more. Some of them require you to explicitly enable sata before it will work...
[23:17] <Flannel> Aranel: but no, the desktop CD isn't very flexible when it comes to installation methods
[23:17] <Lake_> losha: good point
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Aranel: Burnt CD or official?
[23:17] <teknozwizard> fccf: what still works friend?
[23:17] <coldpizza721i__> nibbler how?
[23:17] <Aranel> sebsebseb: Burnt, 7.04, but I used it more than 5~ times, no problem.
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Aranel: oh 7.04 is no longer supported even
[23:18] <Aranel> sebsebseb: I know. I dont want do DL something for my friends pc =)
[23:18] <Aranel> sebsebseb: he can update it after install.
[23:18] <fccf> teknozwizard: gksudo nautilus   .... will open a password window, then after you enter the sudo password you will see nautilus (file manager) and can access the drive in /media
[23:18] <nibbler> coldpizza721i__: that completely depends on your enviroment.  you have a system running and want to change it to ubuntu?
[23:18] <mnaines> Aranel: Would you be interested in running a Live setup on his computer?
[23:18] <sebsebseb> Aranel: I think people get issues now trying to update from  releases that are no longer supported
[23:19] <Bof> The processes in system monitor don't match total usage of cpu s?
[23:19] <coldpizza721i__> nibbler windows on my other machine and yea want to change it
[23:19] <Aranel> mnaines: Live setup?
[23:19] <teknozwizard> hrm.
[23:19] <teknozwizard> Oh, so I should've been looking at the other window.
[23:19] <Aranel> sebsebseb: If it works, its perfect anyway.
[23:20] <teknozwizard> fccf: I'll try again. I closed the pop up window without thinking. One moment.
[23:20] <fccf> teknozwizard: yeah, the one that says root on the right hand side
[23:20] <guja> anyone knows how is this site made? http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/ ? is that drupal or what? thanks.
[23:20] <fccf> left hand side*
[23:20] <nibbler> coldpizza721i__: well, im sure there is ways to even do it with windows.... but i dont have ideas there.....
[23:20] <sebsebseb> Aranel: I think he might mean from a USB
[23:20] <cody__> I am using Ubuntu with the KDE Desktop. Whenever i play a song in amarok, it will not locate the lyrics. What is wrong?
[23:20] <guja> anyone knows how is this page made? http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/ ? is that drupal or what? thanks.
[23:20] <Aranel> sebsebseb: yes, if its possible, without downloading anything.
[23:21] <sebsebseb> !usb |  Aranel
[23:21] <sebsebseb> hmm where's the bot
[23:21] <Bof> System monitor gives ~25% cpu usage, but it doesn't match with what I see in the process!!
[23:21] <guja> !bot | sebsebseb
[23:21] <Lake_> losha: dmesg | egrep sd spews : http://pastebin.com/m7b5757a
[23:22] <fccf> guja: the bot is down for maintinance
[23:22] <cody__> I am using Ubuntu with the KDE Desktop. Whenever i play a song in amarok, it will not locate the lyrics. What is wrong?
[23:22] <sebsebseb> cody__: I suggest trying the #kubuntu channel  since that's for Ubuntu with KDE
[23:23] <cody__> sebsebseb: Thank you, i will move there now
[23:23] <Lake_> losha: sda sdb and sdc are the pata drives
[23:23] <sebsebseb> cody__: np
[23:23] <Aranel> sebsebseb: (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes.
[23:23] <Aranel> sebsebseb: thats the error about why it doesnt start Xorg
[23:23] <Lake_> no losha..
[23:24] <Bof> Try to find why my cpu run to fast but I see nothing significant in system monitor
[23:24] <bobo123> how to logout from rlogin using the escape character?
[23:24] <ikonia> 13:36 < mnaines> ikonia: I want secure authentication and I want the connection itself to be secure (paranoia-based security, I know, but that's just the way I am)
[23:25] <ikonia> oops
[23:25] <trism> bobo123: according to the man page, the escape character followed by a dot should close the connection
[23:26] <bobo123> trism: obviosly doesn't close
[23:26] <teknozwizard> fccf: ok, I did it again, but - unfortunately - still the same problem. It loads up into the autorun feature and doesn't actually go to the actual drive.
[23:26] <Lake_> foofish: syslog doesn't even mention the 4th sata hdd, I'm guessing it's a BIOS thing and it's not in dmesg either
[23:26] <bobo123> trism: it's ok, i had to wait a little bit longer to see the output
[23:27] <dwarder> when installing minimal server installation in vmware, tasksel ask if i want to install "virtual machine host", am i need this?
[23:27] <ikonia> no no no
[23:27] <ikonia> dwarder: you can't be a virtual machine host while on a virtual machine gues
[23:27] <ikonia> guest
[23:27] <foofish> Lake_: ok. presumably you have had it recognised by some other operating system
[23:27] <Bof> I try to find why my cpu run to fast but I see nothing significant in system monitor...any idea?
[23:27] <foofish> Lake_: and it's not a loose power cable or something
[23:27] <Lake_> foofish: no actually not really
[23:27] <teknozwizard> fccf: Ok, I think I know why.
[23:27] <dwarder> ikonia: ahh i see, thanks my box is guest
[23:28] <pentarex> hey guys can someone tell me how to make my microphone in acer d150 on Ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 to work ?
[23:28] <ubuntu_TX7> hello everyone
[23:28] <teknozwizard> fccf: It says - "Unable to mount cdrom0" and then "mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0"
[23:28] <Lake_> foofish: it's spinning but BIOS doesn't see it so either mobo problem or doa hdd
[23:28] <ikonia> pentarex: 9.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[23:28] <foofish> Lake_: well check the data cable, both ends
[23:28] <pentarex> ikonia, 10nx
[23:28] <Lake_> foofish: will do (and maybe mobo has some SATA optino I need to enable, like losha said)
[23:29] <teknozwizard> fccf: It's not finding the media for it. I'm gonna check out the WD site and see if there's any linux distro drivers for it.
[23:29] <teknozwizard> brb.
[23:29] <fccf> teknozwizard: we arn't trying to mount your cdrom ... it will be labeled /media/disk? something
[23:30] <Bof> I try to find why my cpu run to fast but I see nothing significant in system monitor...any idea?
[23:30] <ikonia> Bof: maybe you don't have speed step/throttling working
[23:31] <Bof> Thks Ikonia... but what is it?
[23:31] <nibbler> bof: so where do you see it running?
[23:32] <Bof> I see it in system monitor...but I can't find a process in particular that eats cpu a lot
[23:32] <s0|> anyone complaining about a massive slow down in system performance since the latest patches have been put out? this is BS vmware server is now hosed thanks to those patches and the system runs about 20% slower than it did before.
[23:33] <dwarder> footprint of ubuntu server 8.10 minimal virtual is 440mb, why do they say that it must be 380 here http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos
[23:33]  * one2abuse is away: Gone away for now
[23:33] <dwarder> i wonder what could i have done wrong
[23:33] <pentarex> ikonia, nobody can help me man... nobody is responding about hey guys can someone tell me how to make my microphone in acer d150 on Ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 to work ?
[23:33] <dwarder> pentarex: alsamixer check?
[23:33] <Bof> System monitor gives ~25% cpu usage ... but the sum of process doesn't match!!!
[23:33] <dwarder> or something
[23:34] <ubuntu_TX7> is there a reason why ubuntu would be resizing a 200gb partitition for more then 1 hour ?
[23:34] <pentarex> dwarder, i am new in linux i install alsamixer
[23:34] <ikonia> pentarex: 9.10 is the correct channel
[23:35] <ikonia> pentarex: #ubuntu+1 for 9.10 please
[23:35] <fccf> pentarex: If you are a new user you really shouldn't be using a beta release to begin with
[23:36] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[23:36] <ubuntu_TX7> can i install ubuntu on a fat32 partitition ?
[23:36] <ikonia> ubuntu_TX7: not really
[23:36] <Flannel> ubuntu_TX7: not really, no.
[23:36] <nibbler> ubuntu_TX7: no, dont think so
[23:37] <s0|> fucccckkking awsome
[23:37] <ubuntu_TX7> then what kind of partitition do i need to install it on ?
[23:37] <dwarder> why i don't have do-release-upgrade?
[23:37] <dwarder> how can i install it?
[23:37] <Flannel> dwarder: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[23:37] <fccf> A netsplit is when 2 or more IRC servers split from eachother ... in this case orwell.freenode.net just disconnected from irc.freenode.net , please be patient why the network resets itself
[23:37] <dwarder> Flannel: 8.10 server minimal
[23:37] <dwarder> virtual
[23:38] <nibbler> ubuntu_TX7: ext3,4 or reiserfs.... i'd recommend
[23:38] <Flannel> dwarder: install update-manager-core
[23:38] <Flannel> dwarder: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20(Recommended)
[23:39] <ubuntu_TX7> ok but ubuntu would resize my hard drive forever :( its been doing it for more then one hour
[23:39] <Lake_> foofish: well sadly, BIOS option sata is enabled and I data cable is all right so this means try another data cable .. and if that doesn't work, try the hdd in another machine ?
[23:39] <Bof> How can I check if speed step/throttling works?
[23:39] <fccf> ubuntu_TX7: how big is the drive?
[23:39] <dwarder> Flannel: thank you
[23:39] <ubuntu_TX7> around 200 GB
[23:40] <fccf> ubuntu_TX7: I'd wait for it to finish, it takes along time to resize a drive
[23:41]  * one2abuse is back.
[23:41] <ubuntu_TX7> it just says applying pending operations in the partitition wizard and its been like that for more then an hour.
[23:41] <MenZa> one2abuse: Remove that script, now.
[23:41] <ikonia> one2abuse: please disable that script
[23:41] <MenZa> !away > one2abuse
[23:42] <fccf> MenZa: ubottu is undergoing maintinence right now, !triggers won't work ... we have to be the the bots
[23:42] <foofish> Lake_: guess so
[23:42] <roby_> ciao
[23:43] <Fox3211> When trying to create an ext3 on my hard drive using gparted live cd i get the error "Could not stat /dev/sda1 -- No such file or directory. The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?". what does this mean and how do I get it to work?
[23:43] <fccf> roby_: Hello, Italian?
[23:43] <nibbler> ubuntu_TX7: if you resize your partitions, a lot of data has to be moved. this can tage AGES.... but only way to not lose data....
[23:43] <Lake_> foofish: ...actually do something, you say.... my worse fears realized... thx for your help
[23:43] <plitter> is there any way to leave a message for a guy here?
[23:43] <foofish> Lake_: np
[23:43] <paul_s> i was told vbox was better than vmware, i am NOT seeing it, i got no usb , no optical drives, god knows what else aint working, and i been tryin for 7 hours, perhaps it don't like ubuntu 9.04
[23:43] <nibbler> Fox3211: try /dev/sda
[23:44] <Bof> How can I check if speed step/throttling works?
[23:44] <MenZa> paul_s: No USB support in the open source version. Try the proprietary version from virtualbox.org.
[23:44] <DeathFox> how good is gimp compared to like photoshop
[23:44] <teknozwizard> <--- screams because it still didn't work!!!!!
[23:44] <cody__> How do i add a resource to my sources.list file? I dont want to use gksudo and sources does not show in the menu. What is the terminal command?
[23:44] <Fox3211> nibbler: where is the option to change that?
[23:44] <shadowimmage> can someone help me with an Eclipse IDE installation? I wanted to replace the one that comes from the ubuntu repo to the latest that I just downloaded from the elcipse.org site...
[23:44] <MenZa> DeathFox: Just as good, but it has a very different workflow.
[23:44] <ikonia> paul_s: what's best is subjective to one mans view, I personally rate kvm over both of them, but my requirements may differ from someone who appreciates say vmware
[23:44] <thedude42> paul_s, what virtualbox are you using?  the free version does not have the same features as the sun non-free
[23:44] <paul_s> MenZa got right version, http://pastebin.com/d2de70cdc
[23:44] <nibbler> Fox3211: no idea, thought you used some command ;-) try sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[23:44] <teknozwizard> DeathFox: As an almost certified PhotoShop specialist, I can say this. Gimp = Easy to start with, but not very flexible as far as what can be done. Photoshop = hard to start with, but incredibly flexible as to what can be created.
[23:45] <DeathFox> k
[23:45]  * iruan is away: Be back later!
[23:45] <paul_s> says its there but not? :)
[23:45] <teknozwizard> DeathFox: It's actually a matter of choice. My uncles got his BA in Graphic Design and he refuses to use PhotoShop, and outside of some of the new 3d stuff, he can match pic for pic using Gimp against anyone who uses PhotoShop.
[23:45] <dwarder> teknozwizard: do you use photoshop with ubuntu?
[23:45] <paul_s> jaunty non free
[23:45] <Fox3211> nibbler: I don't see a way to get a terminal on the gparted live cd :(
[23:45] <ikonia> paul_s: jaunty is free
[23:45] <paul_s> jaunty and vbox non free
[23:46] <teknozwizard> dwarder: No, I just got JJ installed today. However, the Photoshop interface never changes from OS to OS, the only thing that changes is the ks for each OS.
[23:46] <nibbler> Fox3211: i dont know gparted live cd, and this is #ubuntu..... try ctrl-alt-f1
[23:46] <paul_s> vbox version is jaunty non free
[23:46] <ikonia> paul_s: no - it's free
[23:46] <ikonia> !info vbox
[23:46] <thedude42> free as in freedome, not beer
[23:46] <dwarder> teknozwizard: what is JJ and ks?
[23:46] <thedude42> s/freedome/freedom/
[23:46] <paul_s> got right version, CHECK http://pastebin.com/d2de70cdc
[23:46] <teknozwizard> dwarder: I'm sorry, I call Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) JJ because I'm lazy.
[23:47] <dwarder> teknozwizard: and ks for photoshop cs? :)
[23:47] <Bof> How can I check if speed step/throttling cor my cpu works?
[23:47] <Pici> !info virtualbox-ose
[23:47] <teknozwizard> dwarder: And I say "ks" instead of "keystroke shortcuts"
[23:47] <cody__> How do i add a respitory through the terminal
[23:47] <teknozwizard> dwarder: a ks is like - as I'm sure you know ctrl+a. I'm just lazy sometimes.
[23:47] <unop> cody__,   echo "deb http://example.com/ release section" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:47] <paul_s> my usb is there and unavailable
[23:48] <cody__> unop: Thank you
[23:48] <mo0nykit> Bof: you mean CPU frequency scaling?
[23:48] <paul_s> whatever  that menas
[23:48] <unop> cody__, make sure you have the repository down right.
[23:48] <paul_s> whatever  that means
[23:48] <dwarder> teknozwizard: i see :)
[23:48] <Bof> mo0...Exactly
[23:48] <Fretegi_1> hi guys
[23:48] <ikonia> !give ikonia a test
[23:48] <Bof> Cause my cpu goes to fast!!
[23:48] <Fretegi_1> so, anyone know how to rip dvd's for bu purposes in ubuntu?
[23:48] <teknozwizard> fccf: I'm looking at the Ubuntu forums, several people seemed to have had my issue with my external, but they say they can still mount and access the drive. Do you think that because it boots as a CD first that that's what could be the problem?
[23:49] <MenZa> Fretegi_1: bu purposes?
[23:49] <ikonia> Fretegi_1: search for dvdrip in the repos
[23:49] <ikonia> MenZa: backup
[23:49] <MenZa> ikonia: ah. Yes, Fretegi_1 - have a quick search in the repositories [ apt-cache search dvdrip ] - k9copy I know is one program that'll do it.
[23:49] <Bof> mo0nykit: I try to find why my cpu goes to fast....system monitor doen't help?
[23:50] <bartek> Hi. Sound from flash died about 2 weeks ago (just getting it today). Videos work, but the sound is gone entirely. Anyone have any tips as to where I can start looking? Sound doesn't work in any of my browsers (Chromium, Firefox, Epiphany..)
[23:50] <Fretegi_1> i installed that, however i get a error "default data base directory data not found"
[23:50] <fccf> teknozwizard: in gksudo nautilus .. you should be able to see /media ... in it should be something called a disk ... or disk-1 or whatever ... it should be there if it is mounted
[23:50] <KyleK__> when is 9.10 coming out?
[23:50] <ikonia> Bof: 1.) does your cpu support speed step 2.) is it enabled in the bios 3.) is speed step working
[23:50] <fccf> !karmic | KyleK__
[23:50] <ikonia> KyleK__: ubuntu.com is your friend
[23:50] <Smattacus> What chat client are you guys using for irc, anyways?
[23:51] <teknozwizard> fccf: and if it's not, then I need to mount it, which would be why I can't see it.....man...see, being new to JJ can be a killer when you know certain things but dont think of them because you stress that it's a much worse problem than it really is. Let me try that.
[23:51] <Bof> ikonia... It's a bit to technical for me.... I would need more details.. sorry
[23:51] <sebsebseb> Smattacus: Konversation in Gnome :)
[23:51] <ikonia> Smattacus: there are many options, give some a try see what you like
[23:51] <thiebaude> xchat
[23:51] <KyleK__> wow, this is the furthest away a release has been when i'm wanting to install ubuntu
[23:51] <Smattacus> yeah I'm gonna try some shiz
[23:51] <ikonia> Bof: 1.) does your cpu support speed stepping (throttling) 2.) do you have the option enabled in the bios 3.) what makes you think your cpu is running fast
[23:51] <mo0nykit> Bof: "too fast", like it's having a high load most of the time?
[23:51] <dios_mio> what files are the screen resolutions stored in?
[23:51] <Smattacus> and see what I like, thanks dudes
[23:52] <sebsebseb> !irc > Smattacus
[23:52] <ikonia> dios_mio: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:52] <Bof> ikonia :System monitor gives both cpu ~30% when nothing running
[23:52] <dios_mio> ikonia and where else?
[23:52] <Bof> I mean cpu usage
[23:52] <ikonia> dios_mio: no-where
[23:52] <ikonia> Bof: what cpu (make/model) is it
[23:53] <thedude42> k62 :p
[23:53] <Bof> Intel 1.66Ghz
[23:53] <ikonia> Bof: intel what ?
[23:53] <mo0nykit> Bof: Core2Duo ?
[23:53] <Bof> Intel core duo
[23:53] <Bof> yes
[23:54] <ikonia> Bof: check your cpu in the tool called "top"
[23:54] <mo0nykit> Bof: I'm afraid I won't be able to help any further.. Sorry...
[23:54] <Bof> Core 2 duo T5450
[23:54] <mnaines> Bof: I have a 1.86GHz Core2Duo in my laptop, and it supports both thermal and voltage throttling in BIOS and speed stepping in the OS
[23:54] <Bof> thks anyway <mo0nykit>
[23:54] <dwarder> !version
[23:55] <Bof> Ikonia ok....I check
[23:55] <Bof> ikonia... It's much lower ~8%
[23:56] <ikonia> Bof: ok, so it's probably because gnome system monitor isn't dealing with multiple cores well, so it's giving a false reading
[23:56] <mnaines> Bof: Most newer processors support at least thermal throttling, but that feature has to be enabled in the BIOS
[23:56] <m0r0n> Does anyone play Tremlous
[23:56] <mnaines> ikonia: I am not having any problems with gnome system monitor dealing with multiple cores
[23:56] <Bof> Ok....But is there a chance I break something in changin that in the bios ?
[23:56] <thiebaude> ikonia, mine is ok too
[23:57] <mnaines> m0r0n: Google TremFusion for a better multiplayer experience
[23:57] <plitter> !help
[23:57] <m0r0n> mnaines: Is it advised to use terminal to install games?
[23:57] <plitter> \help
[23:57] <Bof> But my battery running down much faster than with windows even with kpowersave....
[23:57] <ikonia> mnaines: do you have the same make/model cpu and motherboard as him ?
[23:57] <mnaines> ikonia: I have an Intel 945 chipset
[23:57] <ikonia> Bof: probably because it's not throttling
[23:57] <m0r0n> mnaines: I tried it with Tremlous and it didn't work quite well, it gave me an old version and it's useless
[23:57] <ikonia> mnaines: is that the same cpu/motherboard combination as him ?
[23:57] <mnaines> ikonia: I do not know.
[23:58] <ikonia> mnaines: there we go
[23:58] <thedude42> Bof, because the windows drivers probably have special knowledge about power savings on your laptop
[23:58] <Bof> Chipset is Intel GM965/960...or something
[23:58] <mnaines> ikonia: Mine is the GM945
[23:58] <ikonia> mnaines: not asking what yours is, just if it was the same so had any relevance to the comment
[23:59] <mnaines> ikonia: His is newer than mine apparently
[23:59] <mnaines> ikonia: So if mine has certain features, his should as well
[23:59] <Bof> I guess there nothing to do for the battery but I'll check for throtteling
[23:59] <plitter> clear


[08:31] <JoshuaL_> Can someone set the  importance of bug 847078 to medium please? It is a usability issue that does not limit the functionality of a core application.
[16:29] <hggdh> eeeBotu will be unavailable for 5 minutes for a reboot
[16:36] <hggdh> eeeBotu is back
[21:08] <photon> hi. every once in a while, usually when clicking on the app menu in 11.04 (ubuntu classic), gnome-settings-deamon crashes, and my theme reverts back to an old X 90's style theme (ugly gray, rectangular buttons, etc). I know many who have the same problem, and I'm pretty sure it has been reported as a bug. can somebody help me find the bug report? I googled and did not find it.
[21:09] <photon> usually, clicking on preferences -> Appearance and selecting the original theme fixes the problem, but you have to restart all applications for it to take effect, which is ANNOYING.
[21:10] <photon> because it happens so often.
[21:14] <Cheesehead> photon: Did you search using any other method besides Google?
[21:14] <photon> Cheesehead: like?
[21:14] <Cheesehead> For example, using the Launchpad search feature?
[21:14]  * photon does this now
[21:15] <Cheesehead> Are you bringing additional information to the bug?
[21:20] <photon> 649809
[21:20] <photon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/649809
[21:21] <photon> Cheesehead: I'm reading the bug reports, I'm afraid I have no additional information.
[21:21] <photon> Cheesehead: other than, it's just plain annoying :)
[21:21] <Cheesehead> OK. Glad you found the right one.
[21:22] <photon> it's so annoying I'm thinking about reverting back to 10.04 LTS. I hope this will be fixed in the next LTS.
[21:22]  * photon crosses fingers
[21:24] <photon> it also seems to be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/574296
[21:24] <photon> in fact, the latter seems to be more like what I'm experiencing. or maybe it's exactly the same.
[21:27] <photon> oops, sorry. killed gdm accidentally :/