[03:07] <MikeC2> whilst installing JRE something messed up, and now I can not seem to install it at all :|
[03:07] <MadDog011> xtknight, I uninstaled the run file
[03:08] <MadDog011> xtknight, and tried to use the apt-get nvidia-xgl thing...
[03:08] <MadDog011> but now I killed everything...
[03:08] <PriceChild> PovAddict, that's a real possibility
[03:08] <EduardoCorrea> somewone help me to make work ffmpeg with my webcam?
[03:08] <xtknight> wilo, getting it?  the problem will be fixed through persistence and speed :)
[03:08] <PovAddict> EduardoCorrea: how about #ffmpeg?
[03:08] <IcemanV9> !patience | EduardoCorrea
[03:08] <ubotu> EduardoCorrea: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:09] <xtknight> MadDog011, hmmm hold on.  well you need to get the nvidia drivers working before you use xgll....
[03:09] <EduardoCorrea> OK
[03:09] <pettybone> Requesting help trying to use samba. It tells me to run it from the root. I tried running it from the terminal but I received the same message.
[03:09] <MadDog011> xtknight, how do I do that?
[03:09] <Dreamxtreme> 141 UPDATES!! LOL
[03:09] <PriceChild> !sudo | pettybone
[03:09] <ubotu> pettybone: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:09] <xtknight> MadDog011, good question but i would use the RUN drivers not the repo ones
[03:09] <PriceChild> !caps | Dreamxtreme
[03:09] <ubotu> Dreamxtreme: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:09] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: 141 updates
[03:09] <xtknight> MadDog011, RUN ones are newer
[03:09] <wilo> xtknight: this is my result
[03:10] <wilo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10303/
[03:10] <Dreamxtreme> sorry ubotu
[03:10] <MadDog011> xtknight, hm.... I can try to run them again I guess....
[03:10] <PovAddict> about ubotu, wouldn't it make more sense to redirect a message to a user using > instead of |? or are we all programs :)
[03:10] <EduardoCorrea> when i run ffmpeg teste.php i got this error "Could not find video grab device"
[03:10] <xtknight> MadDog011, i would use the RUN ones if at all possible , we can try from there.  did you try the XAA or EXA acceleration or whatever it was?
[03:10] <MadDog011> xtknight, I get ALOTTT of errors when I run those btw
[03:10] <bruenig> !bot > PovAddict
[03:10] <EduardoCorrea> But my webcam is working ok in several apps
[03:10] <xtknight> MadDog011, #nouveau might have some ideas on the XAA stuff.
[03:10] <PovAddict> EduardoCorrea: you're loading a .php into ffmpeg?
[03:10] <MikeC2> I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) when trying to install it from apt-get
[03:10] <PovAddict> what the...
[03:10] <EduardoCorrea> sorry
[03:10] <bruenig> PovAddict, and so you see
[03:10] <EduardoCorrea> when i run ffmpeg teste.,pg i got this error "Could not find video grab device"
[03:10] <adjioev> where can read about channel chars like > | e.c.?
[03:10] <xtknight> wilo, alright.  'sudo dpkg --force-all -purge fontconfig'
[03:10] <EduardoCorrea> when i run ffmpeg teste.mpg i got this error "Could not find video grab device"
[03:10] <Dreamxtreme> :me is happy
[03:10] <MadDog011> xtknight, ok ima try to go with the .run
[03:10] <xtknight> wilo, fix >>>  'sudo dpkg --force-all --purge fontconfig'
[03:11] <jrib> !ubotu | adjioev
[03:11] <ubotu> adjioev: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:11] <MadDog011> xtknight, again...
[03:11] <MadDog011> xtknight, the installer says my card is legacy
[03:11] <PovAddict> ohh I understand how it works :) > is for pm, | shows on channel right?
[03:11] <MadDog011> xtknight, though I think its not
[03:11] <xtknight> MadDog011, well what card is it
[03:11] <MadDog011> xtknight, GF 4200 TI
[03:11] <xtknight> MadDog011, ah, :O
[03:11] <xtknight> MadDog011, yeah i dunno if the new drivers support it.  check the docs?
[03:11] <MikeC2> Anyone mind helping me with a JRE install issue, its a bummer x.x
[03:12] <bruenig> PovAddict, affirmative
[03:12] <xtknight> MikeC2, pastebin the complete output of 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[03:12] <MadDog011> xtknight, it should man. its a really old card
[03:12] <xtknight> what is it, dpkg error Day?
[03:12] <MadDog011> xtknight, and a good card
[03:12] <wilo> xtknight: which one do i do
[03:12] <xtknight> wilo, this >>>  'sudo dpkg --force-all --purge fontconfig'
[03:12] <wilo> ok
[03:12] <car_watt> you are the real madDog??????????
[03:12] <xtknight> MadDog011, nvidia dropped support for riva in their windows drivers recently i think
[03:12] <MadDog011> car_watt, no im the fake one :(
[03:13] <PovAddict> bruenig: amazing - too bad there isn't a -f to force the user to understand stuff... :P
[03:13] <PovAddict> if only life had those switches...
[03:13] <MadDog011> xtknight, didn't know Ge Force 4200 titanium is riva..
[03:13] <xtknight> lol
[03:13] <MikeC2> All is ok, besides a hanging skype install, could that be doing it?
[03:13] <xtknight> MadDog011, it isnt but riva is one old card...gf4 is also a tad aged so i was just impyling
[03:13] <bruenig> I just wish there was an !incoherent factoid
[03:13] <wilo> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10304/
[03:13] <EduardoCorrea> You already try use Envy script?
[03:13] <MadDog011> xtknight, ic
[03:13] <xtknight> MikeC2, um no idea.  what's up with your java though?  when do you see subprocess fialed
[03:14] <MikeC2> xtknight: when trying to apt-get the jre/bin
[03:14] <xtknight> wilo, that's fine.  alright 'sudo apt-get -f install' again...seeing a pattern here?
[03:14] <xtknight> MikeC2, what exact cmd did you use
[03:15] <EduardoCorrea> xtknight: You already try use Envy script?
[03:15] <MikeC2> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[03:15] <wilo> yes i am xtknight
[03:15] <xtknight> EduardoCorrea, i dont have the nvidia problem, that would be MadDog011.  but Envy would not help him.  he had the nvidia drivers installed, but i think the nvidia drivers did not support his GF4 with 2d acceleration
[03:15] <chalmer> is Suse 10 begginner friendly as Ubuntu?
[03:15] <xtknight> wilo, might be fixed soon :P
[03:15] <meezyfuh> hi, does anyone know much about splitting a large file (>100MB) into smaller ones?
[03:15] <jairus> ola
[03:15] <xtknight> wilo, keep paste-bining
[03:15] <pettybone> ok I fully understand sudo now. Would anyone be able to help me make sense of the mount windows share using samba?
[03:15] <xtknight> meezyfuh, spanned zip/rar ?
[03:16] <MikeC2> meezyfuh: look into rar or 7zip
[03:16] <xenex> how can i make my microphone work?
[03:16] <jrib> meezyfuh: man split
[03:16] <PovAddict> what jrib said
[03:16] <swjunke> if on linux just use split and give it you size ... do man split
[03:16] <MadDog011> xtknight, wait I think I might be on to something
[03:16] <meezyfuh> thanks!
[03:16] <PovAddict> meezyfuh: so many cool commands around... :)
[03:16] <wilo> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10305/
[03:17] <wilo> now "sudo dpkg --force-all --purge fontconfig" ?
[03:17] <swjunke> hey... can someone help me with having my system recognize the dvdrw & cdrw... i did an upgrad and the devices somehow disappeared
[03:17] <xtknight> wilo, well let's not give up until we get rid of all the fontconfig remnants
[03:17] <pettybone> I am looking at the page that gives me directions but the not sure how to make use of the page.
[03:17] <meezyfuh> well, is it easy to reconstruct in windows? (split, that is)
[03:17] <wilo> now "sudo dpkg --force-all --purge fontconfig" ?
[03:17] <xtknight> wilo, actually purge libfontconfig1
[03:17] <techie_> Is there in Ubuntu a  reliable or good "Speech Recogniition Program" similar to xp Dragon 8 or Vista Dragon 9?
[03:17] <swjunke> after splitting a file you just cat it together
[03:17] <Jetfighter> !java
[03:17] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:18] <PovAddict> meezyfuh: get unixtools for Windows :)
[03:18] <wilo> 'sudo dpkg --force-all --purge libfontconfig1' ?
[03:18] <PovAddict> so you can run split and cat from Windows's Command Prompt
[03:18] <xtknight> wilo, yes
[03:18] <PovAddict> meezyfuh: in fact... you can merge the files from Windows cmd prompt without needing extra programs
[03:18] <meezyfuh> is there a way to command-line rar it and split it into .part<#>.rar?
[03:18] <ioerror> Has anyone in here ever preseeded?
[03:18] <swjunke> in windows... i forgot what the command is... have you done a google on splitting files in windows?
[03:18] <meezyfuh> PovAddict: really?
[03:18] <xtknight> preseed = ?
[03:19] <PovAddict> meezyfuh: copy /b file1 + file2 + file3 + file4 outputfile
[03:19] <meezyfuh> well basically i want to split this large file and send it to my friend who doesn't have any technical expertise.
[03:19] <ioerror> xtknight, automatic installs using preseeded debconf questions
[03:19] <chalmer> why do u have to run tha termanil in ubuntu for everythin? why can't they make it easier for people to run like windows?
[03:19] <PovAddict> maybe no spaces around the plus sign - hold on
[03:19] <xtknight> ioerror, like unattended windows NT install sorta?
[03:19] <wilo> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10306/
[03:19] <Jetfighter> How do I open sources?
[03:19] <MikeC2> I feel like a baka.... I was just pressing next without agreeing >.>
[03:19] <jbwan> evening
[03:19] <MikeC2> *sigh* oh well
[03:19] <jrib> Jetfighter: what sources?
[03:19] <PovAddict> chalmer: why not, instead, people gets smarter so they can use the terminal? it's really more powerful
[03:19] <Jetfighter> sources.list
[03:19] <xtknight> wilo, ok looks fine.  `sudo apt-get -f install`
[03:19] <EADG> Anybody using Screen? Wondering if it's possible to configure it to play videos.
[03:19] <jrib> Jetfighter: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:20] <ioerror> xtknight, yes
[03:20] <n1ce> help
[03:20] <xtknight> !ask | n1ce
[03:20] <swjunke> is there anyone here with any advice about making ubuntu see devices?  especially a dvdrw & cdrw
[03:20] <ubotu> n1ce: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:20] <meezyfuh> thx for all the help. you guys are great as usual!
[03:21] <xtknight> swjunke, yeah i can
[03:21] <PovAddict> meezyfuh: I'm not sure, but you're safer having no spaces: copy /b file1+file2+file3+file4+file5 outputfile
[03:21] <Iznougoud> What's the minimum req for Ubuntu to run smoothly?
[03:21] <wilo> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10307/
[03:21] <chalmer> this is my 2nd day w/ ubuntu and im already about to pull my hair out
[03:21] <wilo> y/n?
[03:21] <xtknight> !requirements
[03:21] <PovAddict> meezyfuh: now, if you need a non-techie to merge it...
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <meezyfuh> PovAddict: i'll google it to be sure, but thanks very much!
[03:21] <jrib> chalmer: what's the issue?
[03:21] <Jetfighter> How do I get multiverse?
[03:21] <meezyfuh> PovAddict: i can give her diretions on how to open a c: prompt and doit!
[03:21] <jrib> !multiverse | Jetfighter
[03:21] <ubotu> Jetfighter: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:21] <chalmer> trying to learn the new way of accessing everything
[03:21] <xtknight> wilo, yes continue
[03:21] <swjunke> ixtknight... i have a cdrw and dvdrw that were working and stopped, not even showing up after a did an upgrade ... have any advice?
[03:21] <Jetfighter> I cant decode that, can you tell me?
[03:21] <xtknight> swjunke, upgrade from what to what?
[03:22] <jrib> chalmer: have you read through the starter guide at help.ubuntu.com?
[03:22] <MadDog011> xtknight, I made it run X again, but beryl doesnt work...
[03:22] <jrib> Jetfighter: it's english
[03:22] <swjunke> unbuntu 5.x to 6.06
[03:22] <Jetfighter> I know
[03:22] <xtknight> MadDog011, does X feel accelerated though?  nvidia drivers too?
[03:22] <clouder`grr> Anyone have a clue as to why CPU usage would shoot up to 100% just moving a window around?  I'm using gnome
[03:22] <Jetfighter> I don't get it
[03:22] <MadDog011> xtknight, it doesnt feel accelerated
[03:22] <jrib> Jetfighter: did you read it?  I just gave you the link
[03:22] <xtknight> swjunke, ok pastebin the results of 'sudo lshw -class disk'
[03:22] <MadDog011> xtknight, I installed legacy drivers
[03:22] <xtknight> MadDog011, like older nvidia proprietary?
[03:22] <xtknight> MadDog011, but still a run file?
[03:22] <Jetfighter> YES I read it
[03:22] <MadDog011> xtknight, yes
[03:23] <chalmer> no but i will tomorrow . im to fustraded now
[03:23] <Jetfighter> jrib
[03:23] <jrib> Jetfighter: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[03:23] <MadDog011> xtknight the run file...
[03:23] <hole> is there a downloadable gui for nmap?
[03:23] <skel> chalmer: are you new to just ubuntu or linux in general?
[03:23] <xtknight> clouder`grr, unaccelerated 2D
[03:23] <xtknight> !ati | clouder`grr
[03:23] <ubotu> clouder`grr: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:23] <chalmer> linux n general
[03:23] <Jetfighter> I need to play a game that uses a java applet. I installed sun-java6-bin and others, it still not working.
[03:23] <wilo> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10308/
[03:23] <hole> !nmap | hole
[03:23] <Jetfighter> I need to play a game that uses a java applet. I installed sun-java6-bin and others, it still not working. jrib
[03:23] <MadDog011> xtknight, it's unaccelerated, it worked so much better untill I wnated to try out the new drivers :((((
[03:23] <xtknight> !info nmapfe | hole
[03:23] <ubotu> hole: nmapfe: The Network Mapper Front End. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 224 kB
[03:23] <chalmer> first time
[03:23] <jrib> !nmapfe | hole
[03:23] <xtknight> hole : 'apt-cache search nmap'
[03:23] <xtknight> hole, and nmapfe ^^
[03:23] <wilo> xtknight: i think that fixed it, correct?
[03:23] <skel> chalmer: well if you're at the point you want to take a break, thats cool, but if you want to hang out, maybe we can help explain some stuff
[03:23] <MadDog011> xtknight, I shouldn't have typed that apt remove xgl command :(((
[03:24] <swjunke> xtknight...do i paste the out put here?
[03:24] <xtknight> wilo, do `sudo apt-get -f install` one more time to confirm no errors
[03:24] <MadDog011> xtknight, I worked for a week to get the mysql/web/jabber/dc running on the server and now this :(((((((((((
[03:24] <swjunke> it does show the cd and dvd in the output
[03:24] <xtknight> !pastebin | swjunke
[03:24] <ubotu> swjunke: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:24] <xtknight> and thank you for asking
[03:24] <naknomik> Samba 3.0 server, Vista Ultimate client don't play well. Can't see directory listing from Vista if I use UNC (\\server\share\directory etc.), if I map the share as drive I can see the files but most apps fail to load those files unless I manually copy them to local disk. Has anybody encountered this problem?
[03:24] <hole> xtknight as root right?
[03:24] <wilo> Reading package lists... Done
[03:24] <wilo> Building dependency tree
[03:25] <wilo> Reading state information... Done
[03:25] <wilo> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:25] <xtknight> wilo, alright you're all set, enjoy
[03:25] <naknomik> here is my samba config: http://pastebin.ca/394132
[03:25] <swjunke> !pastebin
[03:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:25] <wilo> xtknight: THANKYOU VERY MUCH
[03:25] <xtknight> hole, what as root?
[03:25] <chalmer> they want more people to use linux but they'er not making it user friendly that much
[03:25] <wilo> MUCH APPRECIATED
[03:25] <hole> apt-cache
[03:25] <wilo> THANKYOU xd
[03:25] <MadDog011> xtknight, It's like when I hold the mouse button and select more than 3 icons with it the performance is around 2frames per second
[03:25] <clouder`grr> Thanks xtknight and ubotu
[03:25] <xtknight> wilo, lol no problem
[03:25] <wilo> :)
[03:25] <skel> chalmer: its all relative :-/
[03:25] <wilo> thankyou once again
[03:25] <skel> chalmer: not to say there's not improvements to be made :)
[03:25] <xtknight> you haven't fixed anything until you've removed libc6 =)
[03:25] <pettybone> would anyone help me understand the mount windows share document?
[03:26] <bruenig> xtknight has some serious patience
[03:26] <wilo> can i push my luck, and ask you a good system monitor i can use on ubuntu tat is safe and wont lead to any problems like the last one?
[03:26] <swjunke> ok here's the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10309/
[03:26] <skel> chalmer: do you have any questions or issues in particular?
[03:26] <Xero> I have a serious issue
[03:26] <Xero> I boot the CD
[03:26] <Daemel> Im looking for information on how to get widescreen resolutions to work on ubuntu, any resources out there?
[03:26] <hole> cool it worked
[03:26] <skel> chalmer: I'm pretty good at relating
[03:26] <xtknight> !fixres | Daemel
[03:26] <ubotu> Daemel: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:26] <xtknight> clouder`grr, did it fix the problem?
[03:26] <jrib> wilo: system > administration > system monitor  or use the gtkrellm version in the repos...
[03:26] <xtknight> MadDog011, well like i said try XAA or EXA acceleration.  visit #nouveau
[03:26] <Xero> I can't get ubuntu to boot on my laptop
[03:26] <wilo> xtknight: can i push my luck, and ask you a good system monitor i can use on ubuntu tat is safe and wont lead to any problems like the last one?
[03:26] <Xero> What should I do?
[03:26] <bruenig> wilo, htop
[03:27] <hole> i'll bet xtknight is a manager somewhere
[03:27] <clouder`grr> Well I'm reading up on it.  I noticed though that the open source drivers are recommended
[03:27] <Daemel> xtknight:  thank you
[03:27] <xtknight> hole, um more like a highschool student
[03:27] <bruenig> I bet he is a kid
[03:27] <chalmer> i got Suse 10 but everyone told me to run ubuntu b/c its tha easiest for begginers to learn
[03:27] <bruenig> yeah
[03:27] <hole> ok gunna be a manager
[03:27] <hole> :)
[03:27] <xtknight> maybe :P
[03:27] <bruenig> oh how appealing
[03:27] <bruenig> middle management
[03:27] <xtknight> IT help disk would prolly kill me
[03:27] <SammyF> hey there!
[03:27] <swjunke> xtknight... after doing the pastbin is there some advise?
[03:28] <skel> chalmer: ok. I think I'd probably agree with that.. while Suse is really easy to install, in the end I think Ubuntu is easier to use
[03:28] <wilo> jrib: i wanted one that would stay on the desktop, ill try htop
[03:28] <xtknight> wilo, well the fontconfig got installed from a foreign source....  like a debian repo deb or something.  where did you upgrade the fontconfig?
[03:28] <chalmer> k
[03:28] <jrib> wilo: right, gkrellm would do that, but use the packaged version in the repos
[03:28] <Xero> Is there anyone who is willing to help me with my problem?
[03:28] <erstazi> I have a pastebin submit at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10311/ can you please check it?
[03:28] <jrib> Xero: impossible to tell since we don't know what the problem is :)
[03:28] <pettybone> would anyone help me understand the mount windows share document?
[03:29] <skel> chalmer: so what have you had difficulties with so far?
[03:29] <SammyF> +D
[03:29] <hole> i'll check it out i wanna see if i can guess
[03:29] <Xero> Ok, I boot from the CD. I choose Start/install ubuntu
[03:29] <Xero> it goes to the Ubuntu Load Screen
[03:30] <tom__> Hi, I have a problem with the network-manager-gnome it says 'no network connection' yet Im using wireless on it. any suggestions pls ? thanks
[03:30] <hole> nope cant guess
[03:30] <MadDog011> xtknight, hm sec
[03:30] <Xero> and the screen goes black and it says there was a fatal error
[03:30] <jrib> Xero: it's easier to get help if you type out the question on a single line
[03:30] <chalmer> i cant get my screen res. to adjust. everthing is big. i cant figure out why my internet is so slow on this comp. w/ ubuntu but not on tha other 3 w/ windows.
[03:30] <Xero> and just goes black
[03:30] <xtknight> MadDog011, and back to...#nvidia heh
[03:30] <Xero> ok jrib
[03:30] <chalmer> i got DSL
[03:30] <jrib> Xero: what version of ubuntu?
[03:30] <xtknight> MadDog011, just say what i said in nouveua...unaccelerated 2D but have direct rendering
[03:30] <SammyF> Xero, what's your CPU? Is it a notebook or a desktop comp?
[03:30] <chalmer> breezy i think
[03:30] <xtknight> swjunke, sorry must haev missed your pastebin
[03:30] <MadDog011> xtknight, Ima try
[03:31] <Xero> 6.10
[03:31] <MadDog011> xtknight, man thanx for helping
[03:31] <MadDog011> xtknight, appriciate
[03:31] <chalmer> desktop
[03:31] <skel> chalmer: it would probably be best to be on the latest (edgy)
[03:31] <xtknight> swjunke, you need to give me the url of it that's why
[03:31] <mrzaius> I've just booted off the ubuntu LTS livecd, but I want to run the ncurses installer, and all I see is the GNOME one
[03:31] <xtknight> MadDog011, no problem
[03:31] <wilo> xtknight: i got them from debian
[03:31] <skel> chalmer: I can walk you through an upgrade if you're interested
[03:31] <mrzaius> is there a way to launch the older one?
[03:31] <jrib> Xero: did you make sure the cd was ok?  Does it work on a different system?
[03:31] <chalmer> yea  sure
[03:31] <xtknight> wilo, yeah i figured...well you can only install debs from the ubuntu repositories unless you want to break your system (i.e. only via apt-get or packages.ubuntu.com)
[03:31] <Arch_NME> excuse me
[03:31] <wilo> jrib: but i coudln't get gkrellm to work for me :(
[03:31] <Xero> yeah, the CD works on my other computer
[03:31] <tom__> I'm sure there are some ppl who use the network-manager-gnome for wireless
[03:32] <Xero> This is a laptop though
[03:32] <xtknight> wilo, and don't install ubuntu feisty packages on Edgy, or hoary ones on feisty, or whatever.
[03:32] <chalmer> r u comp or human?
[03:32] <skel> chalmer: can I pm you so the conversation is easier to track?
[03:32] <EADG> Anybody using Screen? Wondering if it's possible to configure it to play videos with Mplayer.
[03:32] <skel> chalmer: human most of the time :)
[03:32] <wilo> ok thankyou xtknight
[03:32] <chalmer> lol
[03:32] <jrib> Xero: well, you could try the alternate cd.  Or type out the full error and see if anyone knows more
[03:32] <wilo> thankyou verty muh
[03:32] <Xero> and I'm a beginner in linux, so I was told ubuntu is the way to go for learning
[03:32] <chalmer> ok
[03:32] <xtknight> wilo, if you just follow those simple rules you wont need a system monitor.  if you want a package that's not available in the repos just ask us we'll get you the right pkg
[03:32] <mrzaius> EADG: one way to find out
[03:32] <Xero> ok
[03:32] <chalmer> pm me
[03:32] <SammyF> Xero, once you got it to run, it's pretty easy to use
[03:32] <Xero> ok
[03:32] <SammyF> Xero, but laptops are always kind of tricky
[03:33] <xtknight> MadDog011, yup exactly right..now we just wait for a response :P
[03:33] <SammyF> Xero, :(
[03:33] <mrzaius> EADG: Also, that's more an mplayer specific question, assuming you're talking about the framebuffer video out drivers.  might try asking them directly if you don't get a direct answer here
[03:33] <wilo> thnakyou xtknight very greatly appreciated :)(
[03:33] <swjunke> Could I get some advise for my binpast at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10309/ ... much thanks in advance
[03:33] <chalmer> how do i PM u?
[03:33] <SammyF> Xero, can you tell us the brand and type of your laptop?
[03:33] <EADG> mrzaius: It spits out a couple of errors... failed to open vo, failed to open X11.
[03:33] <xtknight> swjunke, undetected cd drives right?
[03:33] <swjunke> yes
[03:33] <SammyF> Xero, sounds like it's a hardware problem to me
[03:33] <Xero> I'
[03:33] <xtknight> swjunke, good thing is they are detected in HW.  we just need to mount them.
[03:34] <mrzaius> EADG: I don't have mplayer installed yet on this box, so I can't hit the manpage
[03:34] <Xero> I'll get on my other computer and type out the full error
[03:34] <swjunke> that's what i thought... how?
[03:34] <xtknight> swjunke, CD-RW BCE1610IM and PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D....sound right
[03:34] <swjunke> yep
[03:34] <mrzaius> but you can.  look up how to explicitly state that you want to use the fb vout plugin
[03:34] <xtknight> swjunke, when you put a cd in what exactly happens?
[03:34] <swjunke> nothing
[03:34] <mrzaius> if that still fails, it probably just can't be done
[03:34] <MadDog011> xtknight, nvidia module license 'nvidia' taints kernel.
[03:34] <EADG> mrzaius: can you play videos while in screen?
[03:34] <mrzaius> although it wouldn't hurt to check with the screen and mplayer devs
[03:34] <xtknight> MadDog011, where do you get that?
[03:34] <MadDog011> dmesg
[03:34] <Az3rty[out] > BANQUIER : Personne qui serait d'accord pour vous consentir un prt  la condition que vous lui apportiez la preuve que vous n'en avez pas besoin.
[03:34] <mrzaius> at the moment, I don't have mplayer installed, so I can't test it
[03:34] <xtknight> MadDog011, uh what kernel are you using and what version of nvidia?
[03:35] <xtknight> !ci | Az3rty[out]
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <xtknight> !fr | Az3rty[out]
[03:35] <ubotu> Az3rty[out] : Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:35] <MadDog011> xtknight, Linux Ubuntu-Server 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i
[03:35] <cables> Does anyone know how I can change the theme of my KDE apps from within Gnome? I don't have KDE, just lol
[03:35] <cables> damn
[03:35] <cables> lol went in the wrong window
[03:35] <EADG> mrzaius: Thanks for the input, I'll continue to work this problem out.
[03:35] <xtknight> mrzaius, EADG ,  set fb output maybe in mplayer conf file under home dir?
[03:35] <MadDog011> xtknight, NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7184-pkg1.run
[03:35] <cables> I meant to say, I don't have KDE, just a few KDE apps in Gnome
[03:36] <Zero> ok
[03:36] <xtknight> MadDog011, hrm weird.  but the nvidia module is loaded?  (sudo modprobe nvidia  .. )
[03:36] <MadDog011> xtknight, it is loaded
[03:36] <xtknight> cables, uhh qt config program the name escapes me
[03:36] <cables> xtknight, I'll look for that
[03:37] <xenex> how do i make ubuntu detect my microphone?
[03:37] <mrzaius> how do you launch the ncurses installer from the livecd?
[03:37] <bruenig> xenex, my mic just worked
[03:37] <cables> xtknight, how 'bout qt4-qtconfig?
[03:37] <xtknight> mrzaius, you can not, you must use the alternate cd.  or the DVD
[03:37] <xtknight> cables, sounds good
[03:37] <Zero> this is Xero
[03:37] <Zero> on my other compy
[03:38] <mrzaius> xtknight: ok, thanks
[03:38] <SammyF> Zero, wb
[03:38] <xtknight> mrzaius, alternate available here http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[03:38] <Zero> it is loading ubuntu, the CD is reading and the load bar is going back and forth
[03:39] <xtknight> swjunke, um, ok.  type this... `sudo mkdir -p /media/dvd0 && sudo mkdir -p /media/dvd1`
[03:39] <tom__> Why when I restart ubuntu edge the screen goesall pixelized and nothing happens ?
[03:39] <skel> Zero: does it show you anything if you hit F2
[03:39] <xtknight> swjunke, actually you could name it cdrw instead of dvd0 if you wnat, whatever.
[03:40] <mrzaius> xtknight: that's alright.  already got a server cd here.  I can just use that in a pinch and install xubuntu over it
[03:40] <Zero> ok, it went to black with a cursor in the top lefthand corner. and then on the screen it says firmware helper main error loading and some more criptic stuff and the screen goes black and the CD tray stops loading ubuntu.
[03:40] <tom__> I have to press reset :(((((
[03:40] <xtknight> mrzaius, that works too
[03:40] <tom__> any suggestions? tks
[03:40] <xtknight> tom__, nvidia video card?
[03:40] <dougsko> ok, so i know you use 'sudo update-alternatives --config editor' to change your default editor (what happened to export $EDITOR btw?), but if your editor of choice is in /usr/local/bin, it doesnt come up in the choices. anyone know of a workaround?
[03:40] <Zero> yeah, it's definately not booting anything
[03:41] <tom__> xtknight: no ati x700
[03:41] <jrib> dougsko: add it as an alternative?
[03:41] <xtknight> tom__, hm sorry i'm not sure.  try the alternate cd?
[03:41] <swjunke> ok... after doing mkdir then what?
[03:41] <swarm> org
[03:41] <bruenig> dougsko, sudo update-alternatives --set editor /usr/local/bin/youreditor
[03:41] <skel> Zero:  at the boot prompt before you pick start ubuntu
[03:41] <xtknight> !alternate | tom__ grab the alternate here.  http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ ;; description:
[03:41] <ubotu> tom__ grab the alternate here.  http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ ;; description:: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:41] <skel> Zero: you can do a custom start I think.. additional options or something
[03:41] <dougsko> jrib, bruenig: awesome, thanks
[03:41] <skel> Zero: you can try noapic nolapic
[03:42] <skel> Zero: could be an interrupt issue or something
[03:42] <Zero> it says boot options and a really long line of text is in there
[03:42] <skel> its been a while since I've installed, just been upgrading the last few versions
[03:43] <skel> Zero: f1 I think shows you the different boot options
[03:43] <craigbass1976> Does anyone here have a sourceforge project?
[03:43] <smo> can i remove all unused lcoales in /usr/locale-langpack dir??? and how?
[03:43] <Zero> it starts with file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper and it goes on from there
[03:43] <skel> and then I think f6 allows you to enter them?
[03:43] <dougsko> hmmm...im getting 'update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/usr/local/bin/vim'.', even though its definitely there
[03:43] <Zero> f1 brought up the help menu
[03:43] <skel> Zero: try entering noapic nolapic on the end of that
[03:44] <skel> craigbass1976: no, sf is slow and always under maintenance. I don't personally have any projects but my friends use googles project repository
[03:44] <Zero> and after I add that I just press enter?
[03:44] <SammyF> hmm ... anybody has any experience with the ATI Driver Installer?
[03:45] <xtknight> !anyone | SammyF
[03:45] <ubotu> SammyF: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:45] <skel> Zero: yeah
[03:45] <user1234> hi @ all
[03:45] <xtknight> !hi | user1234
[03:45] <ubotu> user1234: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:45] <Zero> ok, It's starting off the same, should it do something special this time?
[03:45] <bruenig> dougsko, sudo ln -sf /usr/local/bin/vim /etc/alternatives/editor
[03:45] <SammyF> anybody used the ATI Driver Installer?
[03:46] <skel> Zero: well if it were a apic problem it would get further.. thats about it..
[03:46] <SammyF> (repeated the question to make the bot happy, sorry)
[03:46] <skel> lol SammyF, state why you would like to know :)
[03:46] <Zero> ok, the error # it's coming up with is 4575 and 4578
[03:46] <skel> SammyF: its faster to get to the root of the problem :)
[03:46] <Zero> does that mean anything?
[03:47] <Zero> woah
[03:47] <Zero> and it started back up again
[03:47] <user1234> does somebody have an idea how to change the shell colour of the loginname/machine
[03:47] <victori_> how would you emulate the second mouse button?
[03:47] <skel> Zero: it restarted?
[03:47] <Zero> no
[03:47] <user1234> my computers name is ragga
[03:47] <bruenig> dougsko, did that work
[03:47] <SammyF> skel, cause I downloaded them, and somehow I lack the knowledge on how to actually USE them. it's a .run file, which I supposed I would be able to convert to something .deb using alien
[03:47] <SammyF> skel, ;)
[03:47] <Zero> it went black, the cd tray stopped, but it made a beep and loaded up ubuntu
[03:47] <user1234> i want him greenyellowred
[03:47] <jrib> dougsko: you need to "install" the alternative, though what bruenig suggests would accomplish what you want too...
[03:47] <dougsko> bruenig: im just about to run it. i was just reading the man page
[03:47] <xtknight> SammyF, no you can not go from run->deb.  you run the ATI installer with the --build-pkg paramaeter
[03:47] <Zero> it's up right now.
[03:48] <Esotericisms> I just installed ubuntu on my inspiron 8500 and then blacklisted the bcm44xx in my modprobe for my wireless adapter, now my wired adapter whenever I ping anything looses like the first 10 icmp requests
[03:48] <Esotericisms> any ideas?
[03:48] <dougsko> jrib: i have it installed via dpkg
[03:48] <skel> SammyF: ahh ok, you'll have to get your kernel sources to compile against I think, its been a while since I've had an ATI
[03:48] <skel> SammyF: hold tight
[03:48] <jrib> dougsko: no, using update-alternatives
[03:48] <skel> Zero: weird
[03:48] <Zero> Wow, thanks a ton skel
[03:48] <SammyF> skel, thanks
[03:49] <xenex> in my volume preferences, i can choose 2 things: HDA NVidia (Alsa mixer) and SigmaTel STAC9227 (OSS mixer). Which one should I use?
[03:49] <skel> Zero: np, glad it worked :)
[03:49] <xtknight> xenex, they both refer to the same device (onboard intel-certified HD audio).  just use ALSA, OSS has been deprecated
[03:49] <dougsko> bruenig: it worked, thanks
[03:49] <dougsko> jrib: im not sure i follow
[03:49] <skel> SammyF: I could walk you through it but its been a while and we'd blunder a lot, but I've got a good howto I think that should help some
[03:50] <xtknight> xenex, at least as far as i know.  you don't have any pci sound cards right?
[03:50] <Zero> now, is there a special way to get my wireless that is built into the laptop to read the wireless router
[03:50] <xenex> xtknight: thanks, would you know how to fix my microphone?
[03:50] <skel> SammyF: since you knew about alien I'm assuming you're relatively comfortable with linux / ubuntu
[03:50] <SammyF> skel, "relatively" :)
[03:50] <skel> Zero: depends
[03:50] <xenex> xtknight: no, i have integrated
[03:50] <skel> SammyF: take a look at this: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[03:50] <xtknight> SammyF, again you can not use alien with .runs.  with the ati installer you can use the --build-pkg (or similar) parameter to make debs though
[03:50] <SammyF> skel, on the other hand, I just found out that there's a RPM package on the ATI page
[03:50] <jrib> dougsko: man update-alternatives will tell you about --install, let me know if it isn't clear (it wasn't for me the first time I encountered it...)
[03:50] <xtknight> xenex, how exactly would you like to use the input from your microphone?
[03:51] <skel> SammyF: well there IS a module in the ubuntu repository
[03:51] <bruenig> it is unclear with all the terminology
[03:51] <dougsko> jrib: cool. ive never used update-alternatives before, the only way ive done this was by exporting $EDITOR
[03:51] <SammyF> skel, so that should work :)
[03:51] <xenex> xtknight: i'm trying to make it work on ventrilo but then I don't think ubuntu is even detecting my microphone
[03:51] <skel> SammyF: if you install the restricted-modules package for your kernel
[03:51] <xtknight> xenex, as long as you plug it into the microphone(line in) it should
[03:51] <skel> SammyF: it has fglrx I believe,   anyone correct me if I'm wrong
[03:51] <SammyF> skel, yep. ATI released a new driver a week or so ago
[03:51] <jrib> dougsko: sudo update-alternatives --install editor editor /usr/local/bin/vim 1   should work though I don't actually know how the priority's work (if bigger is more important or the other way around)
[03:51] <xenex> xtknight: I have 2 plugs, front hub and the mic plug in the back. i currently have it in the back and its not working
[03:51] <skel> SammyF: ah ok so you're upgrading
[03:52] <xtknight> xenex, well the back is the most reliable
[03:52] <SammyF> skel, yes .. there is fglrx in the repository
[03:52] <xtknight> xenex, maybe you need to adjust some switches in the mixer
[03:52] <ping_tu> how can do to this bug,https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-3.4/+bug/26522
[03:52] <xtknight> xenex, gnome-volume-control
[03:52] <xenex> xtknight: like what? i enabled capture
[03:52] <skel> Zero: do you know if the wireless card is a broadcom chipset?
[03:52] <SammyF> skel, yes ... well ... let's say I'm hopeful ... the ATI drivers have been relatively crappy so far :(
[03:52] <Zero> skel: not a clue
[03:52] <xenex> the input source is set to mic and not frontmic, so i don't know why it isn't working
[03:52] <xtknight> xenex, turn up "line in" where you see it?
[03:52] <dougsko> jrib: interesting.../me goes to read more
[03:52] <xenex> xtknight: there is no line in
[03:53] <xtknight> xenex, edit->preferences enable everything and try again
[03:53] <xenex> xtknight: InMux and InVol is in the capture tab
[03:53] <thiesen> how do I move a ntfs partition to a new mount point??
[03:53] <Zero> skel: It shows up, should it connect if it shows up in network settings?
[03:53] <skel> SammyF: yeah, one of the reasons I switch to nvidia about two years ago, anyway if you want to review that howto, I'd be happy to help you with any questions
[03:53] <bruenig> thiesen, change your /etc/fstab
[03:53] <Spartacus> Hey, does SDL come with Ubuntu Edgy?
[03:53] <bruenig> thiesen, where do you want it to mount
[03:53] <skel> Zero: if it shows up thats good, is your network secured with WEP/WPA/WPA2 ?
[03:53] <SammyF> skel, one of the reason I'm relatively comfortable with Ubuntu is that reading How-Tos has been my favourite past time lately ;)
[03:53] <Esotericisms> I am having an issue with my wired connection on my fresh ubuntu install
[03:53] <SammyF> skel, so .. bring it on :)
[03:54] <Zero> no, it's an open access point
[03:54] <skel> SammyF: heheh :)
[03:54] <Esotericisms> I have a broadcom wired 10/100 card in my inspiron 8500 ... I am having a considerable amount of packet loss
[03:54] <skel> Zero: ok then it should be pretty easy
[03:54] <thiesen> bruenig: I had a look inside that file and I saw the reference to my ntfs partition in it... it says the ntfs is mounted as /windows which is correct
[03:54] <skel> Zero: this is the livecd?
[03:54] <Number2> hello
[03:54] <xtknight> xenex, did edit preferences unveil anything else?
[03:54] <xenex> xtknight: no
[03:54] <thiesen> bruenig: I want to mount it as /media/windows instead
[03:55] <Spartacus> Does Ubuntu Edgy come with SDL?
[03:55] <xenex> xtknight: for input source, i'm assuming i should pick mic out of mic, front mic, and line. correct?
[03:55] <xtknight> xenex, hm could you list everything you see under "playback" and everything under "capture" (or screenshot it?)
[03:55] <xtknight> xenex, im really not sure, every mixer for every device is different
[03:55] <bruenig> thiesen, ok does /media/windows exist, (sudo mkdir /media/windows)
[03:55] <smo> SDL?
[03:55] <Number2> is there any way to get the kibuntu style kde on ubuntu?
[03:55] <xtknight> !sdl
[03:55] <Zero> if it is no password, do I need to have the password type set to anything special?
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <thiesen> bruenig: I have to make a directoy
[03:55] <xenex> xtknight: PCM, Front, Surround, Center, LFE, Side (Playback)
[03:55] <xtknight> it's a graphics lib
[03:55] <Spartacus> http://www.libsdl.org/download-1.2.php
[03:55] <hanasaki> what causes packages to be "kept bakc"?
[03:56] <xenex> xtknight: InMux, InVol (Capture)
[03:56] <xtknight> hanasaki, "pinned" or "held" packages.
[03:56] <thiesen> bruenig: I have to make a physical directory if I want to mount something??
[03:56] <bruenig> thiesen, right sudo mkdir /media/windows, and then change the mounpoint in the /etc/fstab to /media/windows
[03:56] <skel> Zero: no I don't think so, just don't select WPA / WEP .. leave it
[03:56] <bruenig> thiesen, yeah...
[03:56] <xtknight> xenex, hmm.  i'm afraid i have no idea i that's all you see
[03:56] <xtknight> xenex, what about under "Switches"?
[03:56] <thiesen> bruenig: ok.. hangon...
[03:56] <skel> Zero: this is the livecd?
[03:56] <xenex> xtknight: ADCMix
[03:56] <skel> Zero: or post install?
[03:57] <xtknight> xenex, hrmm sorry.  no clue.  it's possible the driver doesnt support the mic but you could try using the other device via file->change device
[03:57] <aldeswari> anyone know why i can't get libwxgtk2.6-0 from the default repositories that come on edgy eft?
[03:57] <Zero> live CD. Why, will it not work without a full install?
[03:57] <harry> How are you supposed to pronounce 'gedit' ? is the g pronounced seperately or is it said as all one word?
[03:57] <xenex> xtknight: then there's only one tab, playback with a volume setting
[03:57] <Number2> anyone have an answer??
[03:57] <hanasaki> I know "pinning" what is "held
[03:57] <bruenig> harry, probably intended to be g edit
[03:57] <Spartacus> Is there any downside to installing all of the packages in the package manager?
[03:57] <xtknight> aldeswari, it's in Universe.  do you have it enabled?
[03:57] <skel> Zero: no I was just curious if I could have you apt-get something to check the signal and verify its seeing the AP
[03:57] <xtknight> Spartacus, waste of space, slowdown, possible misconfiguration?  bad idea in general
[03:58] <skel> can you apt-get packages on the livecd anyone?
[03:58] <Spartacus> mmkay
[03:58] <aldeswari> not sure. how would i check/ do it? this is my first time using linux :)
[03:58] <xtknight> skel, sure just enable repos
[03:58] <xtknight> !universe | aldeswari
[03:58] <ubotu> aldeswari: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:58] <SammyF> cya in a bit if X restarts ;)
[03:58] <xtknight> aldeswari, first time using linux and you're compiling something? :)
[03:58] <skel> SammyF: gl =]
[03:58] <hanasaki> aptitude vs apt-get... what to use each for?
[03:58] <bruenig> hanasaki, always apt-get
[03:58] <thiesen> bruenig: ok... I created /media/windows and changed /etc/fstab
[03:58] <xtknight> hanasaki, hrm both do the same thing really.  aptitude can do a few more things with the debian packaging system
[03:58] <skel> Zero: are you familiar with navigating linux via a shell?
[03:58] <bruenig> thiesen, sudo mount -a
[03:58] <skel> Zero: ie. bash?
[03:59] <aldeswari> i don't know what i'm doing, i'm just trying to get mplayer and wine working
[03:59] <thiesen> bruenig: what will the -a do??
[03:59] <xtknight> is there something wrong with aptitude for ubuntu ?
[03:59] <xtknight> aldeswari, ahh following a howto?
[03:59] <AlbertK> morning
[03:59] <hanasaki> will apt-get go away and just aptitude in the future?
[03:59] <bruenig> thiesen, it mounts all the things in your fstab
[03:59] <Zero> skel: no. I am absolutely 100% noob to this
[03:59] <aldeswari> kind of yeah. it seems though everytime i try to install i'm missing libwxgtk2.6-0 or some other package
[04:00] <xtknight> aldeswari, heh yeah it can be a pain but you'll get through it
[04:00] <xtknight> sorry all gotta go
[04:00] <thiesen> bruenig: ok... I did sudo mount -a so is everything changed now??
[04:00] <skel> Zero: hehe ok.
[04:00] <xtknight> i can't..possibly...do it any longer
[04:00] <bruenig> thiesen, go see, is it in /media/windows
[04:00] <AlbertK> is there a howto available for how to install themes in ubuntu properly? (f.e. www.ubuntu-look.org)
[04:01] <xtknight> MadDog011, good luck with the nvidia thing.  just ask the same question as you did (perfectly phrased btw).  youll get a response one of these days im sure heh
[04:01] <Zero> at least I'm honest. I am sick of windows and I just want something I can learn on
[04:01] <thiesen> bruenig: you're a god... :-) that was easy...
[04:01] <bruenig> a god indeed
[04:01] <jrib> dougsko: I knew I had seen documentation somewhere: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-customizing.en.html#s-diverse  heh
[04:02] <AlbertK> windows isn't too bad at all, it's just the corporate background that makes the whole thing sickeningly evil ;)
[04:02] <dougsko> jrib: cool man, thanks
[04:02] <skel> Zero: I hear ya :) the software repository in ubuntu is really nice. there's not much you can't find.. though it may not always be to your liking
[04:02] <bruenig> windows isn't too bad.... what are you smoking
[04:02] <thiesen> bruenig: I didn't even have to deactivate ntfs-3g... it just worked... :-)
[04:02] <Zero> skel: it's better than Vista.
[04:02] <winux> hello
[04:02] <Sonic_13> how do I share a printer in ubuntu with windows xp computers?
[04:02] <skel> please don't troll bruenig
[04:02] <AlbertK> for my mother f.e.
[04:02] <bruenig> skel, you need to wikipedia troll
[04:03] <bruenig> I don't think I could be called a troll bashing windows in a linux channel
[04:03] <jason_wii> could someone with a gmail account send an invite to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i want to get an account
[04:03] <Sonic_13> Wii rocks!
[04:03] <jrib> jason_wii: ok
[04:03] <Hydr0p0nX> didn't think you need an invite anymore
[04:03] <jason_wii> thx
[04:03] <Sonic_13> you can get an account via text message @ jason_wii
[04:03] <Sonic_13> if you have text messaging
[04:04] <jason_wii> i don't
[04:04] <Sonic_13> ok
[04:04] <jesusphreak> hello; if I am running an older core duo macbook, do I want the x86 version of ubuntu or the 64-bit?
[04:04] <reaspired> gmail is open for everyone now
[04:04] <xtknight> jesusphreak, core duo is x86 only.  core 2 duo is x86/x64
[04:04] <aldeswari> whomever it was tat helped me with libwxgtk, thanks a lot :)
[04:04] <skel> Zero: do you get a list of SSID's in the network manager?
[04:04] <Sonic_13> do you have a Wii?
[04:04] <jrib> jason_wii: oh, no more invites needed: https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount?service=mail&t=a0615237-47d74821-3a9b1da38185d3df5125&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2Fe-11-104a5292532e8cd05b545c2df5553ec6-3f01c2bba196058a8257da702b563f7e9b68bba1&type=2
[04:04] <Sonic_13> how do I share a printer in ubuntu with windows xp computers?
[04:04] <xtknight> aldeswari, no problem :P
[04:04] <jesusphreak> xtknight: thanks
[04:04] <zenwhen> jesusphreak: 32 biit
[04:04] <bruenig> !printing | Sonic_13
[04:04] <ubotu> Sonic_13: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:04] <Sonic_13> thanks
[04:05] <zenwhen> the core duo does not support 64-bit code, and you may want to read some guides before you go to install ubuntu on a macbook
[04:05] <Michael_the_choi> There's a nice guide to installing on the macbook on the ubuntu guide pages.
[04:05] <Michael_the_choi> I just did it a couple days ago. :-)
[04:05] <Zero> no, I get something that says wireless connection  wired connection and modem connection
[04:05] <thiesen> bruenig: Uhm... the old mount point still refers to the ntfs partition...
[04:05] <whonicca> speakin about macs, are they made with the same parts as pc's now?
[04:06] <Michael_the_choi> They always have been pcs. ;-)
[04:06] <reaspired> Can some one tell me why when I run beryl-manager and restart via Ctrl+alf+backspace, why berly doesnt auto load
[04:06] <Michael_the_choi> THey aren't mainfraims, you know.
[04:06] <eigenlambda> ok so.  when i run gnome-settings-daemon,
[04:06] <skel> Zero: and if you click on the wireless one, there's nowhere to really go from there?
[04:06] <whonicca> didnt they use priority hardware
[04:06] <bruenig> thiesen, yeah I thought it might, when you restart it won't or if you sudo umount /dev/whatever && sudo mount /dev/whatever it will probably go away too
[04:06] <jrib> reaspired: add beryl-manager to system > preferences > sesssion > startup
[04:06] <eigenlambda> Warning:          No symbols defined for <I7F> (keycode 255)
[04:06] <whonicca> mac only type hardware
[04:07] <Michael_the_choi> mac uses mac hardware, yes.
[04:07] <eigenlambda> (1) wtf does that mean (2) how to make it not take 100% cpu to print that
[04:07] <Zero> from there it says enable this connection (did that" and it says network name Essid, but nothing shows up in there. I manually input mine.
[04:07] <Michael_the_choi> Apple is a hardware manufacturer.
[04:07] <zenwhen> Michael_the_choi: link me?
[04:07] <skel> Apple also makes software :)
[04:07] <thiesen> bruenig: so I can just reboot the virtual computer??
[04:07] <whonicca> this is what is keeping me from buying a mac, hardware versatility =\
[04:07] <eigenlambda> warning .  no symbols defind for <I7E>
[04:07] <whonicca> Michael_the_choi, can i ask u a couple questions pm? about mac
[04:07] <eigenlambda> warning.  no symbols defined for <I7D>
[04:07] <bruenig> thiesen, if you want, or again you can just sudo umount /dev/whatever and then sudo mount /dev/whatever
[04:07] <Michael_the_choi> www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188331
[04:08] <eigenlambda> how i make it stop do that?
[04:08] <Michael_the_choi> sure, whonicca, though I don't know I'll know the answer!
[04:08] <eigenlambda> much annoys.
[04:08] <whonicca> nothing complicated =)
[04:08] <bruenig> thiesen, because the first command will unmount it from both mount points and the second command will mount in accordance with the fstab, which has it setup for your new mount point
[04:08] <thiesen> bruenig: oh... you mean the actual /dev/sd1 device??
[04:08] <skel> Zero: and no dice after inputing yours I take it
[04:08] <bruenig> thiesen, yeah, just sudo umount /dev/sd1 && sudo mount /dev/sd1
[04:09] <jimd3299> woohoo, just slapped in a wireless card in my laptop and ubuntu recognized it right away as eth1.  Sweet
[04:09] <reaspired> jrib, ok I did that restarted via ctrl+alt+backspace, I see the berly icon on top right, but windows look and move like gtk
[04:09] <Zero> below that it says "password type" but since I don't have one I kept it at Hex. I don't know if I should change it to ASCII
[04:09] <jrib> reaspired: yeah, don't hit ctrl-alt-backspace, log out first
[04:09] <thiesen> bruenig: ah... then I get it... I will see what magic I can make...
[04:09] <jrib> reaspired: (choose beryl as your window manager first)
[04:09] <Michael_the_choi> Oops - I take back the link I just linked.
[04:09] <Michael_the_choi> It's not the one I was looking for.
[04:09] <eigenlambda> (i also get that from setxkbmap -print | xkbcomp - :0
[04:10] <Pelo> reaspired,  you need to change the window manager in the icon's right click menu,
[04:10] <jimd3299> Zero: I left mine at Hex, I have no password on my wireless
[04:10] <eigenlambda> *why* does it do that?
[04:10] <eigenlambda> why does gnome-settings-daemon braindeadedly repeat that using all available resources?
[04:10] <hole> is there any way to make gnome show all hidden folders?
[04:10] <reaspired> Pelo, thanks
[04:10] <eigenlambda> when it fails... it just keeps trying over and over.
[04:10] <jrib> hole: ctrl-h, or view > show hidden files
[04:11] <Pelo> reaspired,  you can also access the themes and stuff from there
[04:11] <hole> oh hehe
[04:11] <Zero> up in the corner it says my network connection is named "lo" and it is on a loopback (<IP_ADDRESS>) and a subnet mask of <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:11] <eigenlambda> how do i prevent xkbcomp from being called by gnome-settings-daemon?
[04:11] <eigenlambda> ill wrap it with something that hides its exit code
[04:11] <craigbass1976> Hey folks!  I just uploaded my first project on SourceForge.  OpenInvoice!  Check 'er out!!!
[04:11] <skel> Zero: can you switch that to ethX
[04:11] <skel> Zero: you're just looking at the loopback
[04:11] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  link ?
[04:11] <Zero> ah
[04:12] <craigbass1976> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openinvoice/
[04:12] <craigbass1976> Pelo, ^
[04:12] <skel> Zero: quick question, how do  you know you're not currently connected via wireless?
[04:12] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  loading, what is it about ?
[04:13] <Zero> I get no ping from anything
[04:13] <bruenig> not sure I need to make invoices
[04:13] <thiesen> bruenig: "umount: /dev/sda7: inte monterad" it's Swedish and it tells me that /dev/sda7 isn't mounted... uhm???
[04:13] <bruenig> thiesen, just reboot
[04:13] <jimd3299> Zero: Under System>Administration>Networking, did you type the name of your access point into the field. also known as the SSID?
[04:13] <skel> Zero: on that computer, try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:14] <Michael_the_choi> MACBOOK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook.
[04:14] <Michael_the_choi> THere.
[04:14] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  ??? a zip files ?  oh dear
[04:14] <Michael_the_choi> Heh.
[04:14] <thiesen> bruenig: hehehe... wtf... that's sounds familiar from some other OS... :-)
[04:14] <jimd3299> I had to type the name in mine to get it to recognize the connection.
[04:14] <craigbass1976> Pelo, It's using OOcalc as a front end for invoicing/inventory.  Also uses bash scripts and mysql
[04:14] <bruenig> thiesen, well I am not there, if I were there I am sure I could fix it without reboot, but from here it is just easier to have you reboot
[04:14] <craigbass1976> Pelo, Not too big...
[04:14] <noodles12> can someonehelp me instal a trendnet usb wireless card with teh realtek chipset? (the forums only have instructions on installing the other chipsets)
[04:15] <thiesen> bruenig: yeah... you're probably right about that... :-)
[04:15] <eigenlambda> HA! i got that bullshit to end by moving /etc/X11/xkb out of the way temporarily
[04:15] <bruenig> craigbass1976, at least .tar.gz it
[04:15] <skel> Zero: sorry, in a terminal do that
[04:15] <eigenlambda> so.  what the fuck?
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | eigenlambda
[04:15] <ubotu> eigenlambda: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:15] <eigenlambda> theres even a bug about it in launchpad >> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/breezy/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/21595
[04:15] <Arch_NME> if anyone know's anything regarding getting a UTstarcom 5740 EVDO cellular internet card with sprint service to work under ubuntu?
[04:15] <eigenlambda> but, none of the suggestions there work.  bullshit.
[04:16] <eigenlambda> or, rather, i don't understand the suggestions there
[04:16] <eigenlambda> maybe i should upgrade to feisty and that will work?
[04:16] <jairus> ola
[04:16] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  I'll have a look eventualy, I don'T have mysql installed and it's too late in the evening to start messing aroud with it and learning how to use your project , but I will have a look at it , if only to learn something new, thanks
[04:16] <bruenig> craigbass1976, I would make user-guide.odt a README txt file
[04:16] <eigenlambda> gnome-settings-daemon: stupidest program ever
[04:16] <craigbass1976> bruenig, I wanted it to look pretty. :)
[04:16] <eigenlambda> also: why do i need to manually run gnome-settings-daemon for my compiz session?
[04:16] <rikc> hi
[04:17] <bruenig> craigbass1976, yeah, but it isn't nerdy enough
[04:17] <Pelo> bruenig,  it's got pics in it
[04:17] <Flannel> eigenlambda: #ubuntu-effects for compiz support, thanks
[04:17] <bruenig> it needs to be scary and cryptic
[04:17] <bruenig> that is the only way you can get respect
[04:17] <Zero> DHCP discover on eth1 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval (4,7,8,15,10,12,5) send_packet: network is down
[04:17] <oggy> is there a channel for beryl
[04:17] <oggy> :/
[04:17] <Pelo> oggy,   #beryl
[04:17] <Flannel> oggy: #ubuntu-effects for beryl too
[04:17] <skel> Zero: hmm
[04:17] <bruenig> oggy, #beryl or #ubuntu-effects
[04:17] <oggy> thanks
[04:17] <Zero> the parenthesis is showing all of the numbers after interval
[04:17] <craigbass1976> bruenig, I know... I know...
[04:17] <Zero> in that order
[04:17] <skel> Zero: so its not connecting to your SSID
[04:17] <rikc> I'm having trouble mounting a hard drive in 6.06 Dapper, would anyone be able to help me out or point me to a good guide?  I thought I correctly followed the one I was using, but I guess not.
[04:18] <MadDog011> xtknight, out of rage I have deleted by accident the /lib/.../video/nvidia/nvidia.ko driver... how do I get it back?
[04:18] <MadDog011> out of rage I have deleted by accident the /lib/.../video/nvidia/nvidia.ko driver... how do I get it back?
[04:18] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:18] <Flannel> MadDog011: what's the full path?
[04:18] <Pelo> rikc, http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84 ,  there might be something in here
[04:18] <oggy> Pelo?
[04:18] <oggy> explain
[04:18] <oggy> ?
[04:18] <MadDog011> Flannel sec
[04:18] <rikc> awesome, thanks Pelo
[04:18] <Pelo> oggy,  you couldn'T be bothered to  check  #beryl ...   lame
[04:18] <skel> Zero: in a terminal can you type iwconfig eth1 essid <your ssid>
[04:19] <skel> Zero: you'll probably have to prepend that command with sudo
[04:19] <MadDog011> Flannel, /lib/modules/2.6.17-1-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidia.ko
[04:19] <skel> Zero: and then try to restart the network again, or just run dhcpcd
[04:19] <Sonic_13> i am trying to setup network printing and this page (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP) says I need to Also set which TCP port that the printer system will accept connections on. In Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) and Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) add this line under the Network Options part of the file (somewhere around line 420), or in Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) add the following line to /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf:, but there is no li
[04:20] <Zero> I did it and it says operation not permitted
[04:20] <billy> greetings humanoids.
[04:20] <Veinor> I'm having problems installing edgy on my laptop. It says:
[04:20] <Zero> do I need sudo in front of it?
[04:20] <Veinor> "Activating swap ... [ok]
[04:20] <Veinor> mount: Function not implemented
[04:20] <MadDog011> Flannel, /lib/modules/2.6.17-1-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidia.ko
[04:20] <skel> Zero: it said that when you put sudo in the front? like  sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <your ssid>   ?
[04:20] <Arch_NME> power to the prolitariate and goodnight all
[04:20] <Sonic_13> (step #4)
[04:20] <skel> Zero: yeah :)
[04:20] <rikc> and would there be any reason why the internet seems to run much slower in Ubuntu than Windows?
[04:21] <aldeswar1> anyone know how i would connect to a windows file sharing network?
[04:21] <Zero> ok
[04:21] <skel> Zero: sorry I left that out, sudo allows you do execute actions as the administrator
[04:21] <cables> !ipv6 | rikc
[04:21] <ubotu> rikc: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:21] <Zero> I did it and it just came up with another line
[04:21] <rikc> thanks
[04:21] <skel> Zero: so anytime you're doing something system related you'll most likely need sudo
[04:21] <Zero> no notification, no nothing
[04:21] <Zero> ojk
[04:21] <skel> Zero: thats good
[04:21] <MadDog011> I have deleted this file by accident out of rage -> /lib/modules/2.6.17-1-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidia.ko  does anyone know how to get it back?
[04:21] <Veinor> unless you choose to enable logins as root.
[04:21] <skel> Zero: ok try the sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart   again
[04:21] <Sonic_13> i am having trouble with #4  --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[04:22] <aldeswar1> anyone know how i would connect a windows file sharing network?
[04:22] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, I know.  What exactly is the setup
[04:22] <Zero> same thing
[04:22] <aldeswar1> just created a windows network on my other comp running xp under mshome
[04:22] <Veinor> I got the message "mount: function not implemented" briefly during the CD boot. I know that mount is kinda critical, so I was wondering if this might mean I might have problems during the actual partition
[04:22] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, and don't ask so fast twice in a row; I was typing...
[04:22] <skel> Zero: hmmm =/
[04:22] <Zero> This time though it says no such device for a bunch of things
[04:23] <aldeswar1> oh sorry i missed what you said
[04:23] <aldeswar1> err
[04:23] <aldeswar1> i'm an idiot
[04:23] <aldeswar1> sorry :)
[04:23] <craigbass1976> hehe
[04:23] <Alysum> Hi, I'm doing ssh -X to another ubuntu on my LAN but I get this:
[04:23] <Alysum> tom@tom-mac:~$ xterm 1
[04:23] <Alysum> xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
[04:23] <Alysum> xterm:  DISPLAY is not set
[04:23] <Alysum> any ideas ? tks
[04:23] <Alysum> sorry for the flood
[04:23] <rikc> On the first step in the guide you guys linked me to, I recieved this: (gedit:5476): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:23] <rikc> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed..  Will this effect anything?  The document that came up was blank
[04:23] <Sonic_13> how do I access the "Network Options" part of this file /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[04:24] <Sonic_13> (the second half of #4 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP)
[04:24] <Zero> skel. one is SIOCSIFFLAGS
[04:24] <rikc> sorry about all the questions, I'm totally new to this and my friend who has been helping me out is gone for a few days
[04:24] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, anyway, figure out what the ip is in windows, and then the share name.  For instance...
[04:24] <MadDog011> Three hours I've spent trying to get this NVIDIA driver to work... THREE HOURS !!!! nothing... I think Bill Gates deserves his millions
[04:25] <LadyNikon> MadDog011: what you doing wrong?
[04:25] <LadyNikon> ;)
[04:25] <Zero> MadDog011: I thought he had billions
[04:25] <skel> Zero: I'm not sure :( at this point I really don't know what direction to take you in without being on the machine =/
[04:25] <LadyNikon> no one said linux was easy.. its just better :D
[04:25] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, I shared out the Shared Documents folder, which on the network was called Documents.  Sometimes it's called ShareDocs...
[04:25] <whonicca> i chose a canon over a nikon today =\
[04:25] <Flannel> MadDog011: that's the nvidia-glx package, it appears
[04:25] <MadDog011> I have absolutely no clue !!!! I've tried everything every damn instruction
[04:25] <billy> is the wine chat on the ubuntu servers?
[04:25] <eck> MadDog011: well, nvidia wrote the drivers, not microsoft :-)
[04:25] <Zero> skel: it's cool
[04:25] <Veinor> if it's easy, it ain't worth doing :-P
[04:25] <aldeswar1> ok got it
[04:25] <skel> Sonic_13: so you're trying to get windows clients on your network to access a printer through ubuntu?
[04:25] <Alysum> did anyone get my message pls ?
[04:25] <Zero> I have to sleep, I'l work on this tommorow.
[04:25] <Zero> Thanks though.
[04:25] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, anyway, sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/Documents /mnt would do it.
[04:25] <skel> Zero: anytime :)
[04:25] <Pelo> billy, #winehq,  and this is the freenode network
[04:26] <Sonic_13> SKEL: yes
[04:26] <skel> Sonic_13: ok, just wanted to make sure you were going down the right path, let me take a look at that howto
[04:26] <aldeswar1> k ill try that
[04:26] <billy> Pelo:  thx.  all I know is, when I open XChat I click on ubuntu servers.  :)
[04:26] <Sonic_13> SKEL: thanks a lot in advance for any help you may be able to give
[04:26] <MadDog011> maybe it's not worth doing, but im sorry cus I've spent over a week getting all the servers up !!! But I can't get the NVIDIA DRVIERS to work... my god am I that stupid... or is something terribly wrong !!!
[04:27] <Alysum> :(
[04:27] <bruenig> !ati | MadDog011
[04:27] <ubotu> MadDog011: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:27] <Pelo> billy,  that's just how it is setup,  so the noobs don'T get too comfused
[04:27] <skel> Sonic_13: np :)  ok so what part of #4 is giving you trouble (sorry was watching a couple of conversations and didn't catch the whole question)
[04:27] <MadDog011> bruenig, do you think I haven't seen that page for 20 times allraedy ?
[04:27] <Veinor> people actually ask that question so much that you have a dedicated command for that?
[04:27] <LadyNikon> lol@ giving MadDog011 a trigger that he probably already knows
[04:27] <billy> Pelo:  guess it worked! :)
[04:27] <bruenig> MadDog011, but have you seen this one
[04:27] <Sonic_13> SKEL: the part that starts
[04:27] <Sonic_13> "Also set which TCP port that the printer system will accept connections on. "
[04:27] <bruenig> !nv | MadDog011
[04:27] <ubotu> MadDog011: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:27] <skel> Sonic_13: why don't we take this to a PM
[04:28] <Sonic_13> sure
[04:28] <Sonic_13> that would be easier
[04:28] <MadDog011> ....
[04:28] <bruenig> the !nv is underused
[04:28] <bruenig> too much !nvidia and !ati
[04:28] <phewl> lol
[04:28] <LadyNikon> to much !!!
[04:28] <colbert> Is it possible to use a different wallpaper for each workspace ??
[04:28] <MadDog011> funny
[04:28] <Alysum> anyone know how to exit the Terminal Server Client when you're in full screen ?
[04:28] <LadyNikon> colbert: i think i  had that once
[04:28] <LadyNikon> cant remember how though
[04:28] <OldGeezer> alysum type in exit
[04:28] <colbert> lol
[04:28] <colbert> thx
[04:29] <Alysum> ok thx
[04:29] <bwlang> colbert: i don't thiink so, never seen it
[04:29] <skel> Sonic_13: if you're not registered I don't think it will let us PM, are you registered on this network?
[04:29] <colbert> dang
[04:29] <phewl> gay
[04:30] <Alysum> err where do I type exit when Im in full screen
[04:30] <ardchoille> at the prompt
[04:30] <Sonic_13> SKEL: no i am not
[04:30] <skel> Sonic_13: ok, did you see my PM?
[04:30] <Sonic_13> yes
[04:30] <Veinor> ok. on the installer, when you're choosing how to partition your HD, is the "new partition size" the size of the new partition, or the new size of the old one? (i.e, the size of the ubuntu or windows partition)
[04:30] <Pelo> colbert,  look for a pakcage called wallpaperoz or something like that
[04:30] <Sonic_13> i did see your pm
[04:30] <skel> Sonic_13: hmm ok cause I can't see your replies
[04:30] <Sonic_13> hmm
[04:31] <ardchoille> Alysum: lol, unless you can figure out another place to type
[04:31] <genii> Alysum: Right after the $
[04:31] <ardchoille> genii: I don't think he has too many choices
[04:31] <Pelo> colbert, http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/Wallpapoz
[04:31] <eck> Veinor: i think the new partition means the new partition, but if you're in doubt just look at the pretty picture of your hadr drive
[04:31] <Veinor> ok
[04:32] <genii> ardochoille Well, we must try to be understanding
[04:32] <eck> iirc the graphic makes it clear which filesystem each partition is formatted as, so it should be clear what belongs to windows
[04:32] <ardchoille> genii: True
[04:32] <colbert> Pelo: Wow thanks
[04:32] <colbert> Would that be compatible with Beryl ?
[04:32] <Alysum> I'm talking about the Terminal Client Server which connects to a server remotely, a GUI! In my case it connects to a windows XP WS in full screen
[04:33] <Pelo> colbert,  no idea
[04:33] <Alysum> I had to press reset to exit lol
[04:33] <colbert> Dang the link is dead
[04:33] <colbert> can I get it somewhere else ?
[04:33] <Pelo> colbert, http://wallpapoz.akbarhome.com/download.html
[04:33] <Shadow_mil> help support Linux: http://www.dell.com/linuxsurvey
[04:33] <matkix0s> So what is a good gui html editor like dreamweaver?
[04:33] <ramza3> I need to develop a simple mysql client, do I need libmysqlclient?
[04:34] <eck> uh, it should have an embedded gparted editor
[04:34] <eck> on edgy anyway
[04:34] <jrib> ramza3: you don't need it, you can rewrite it of course (your question is vague)
[04:34] <Veinor> ah, that. I meant in the installer. I'll just use gparted then.
[04:34] <matkix0s> Eck was that to me?
[04:34] <genii> Alysum :) Glag you got it figured
[04:34] <genii> glad even
[04:34] <ramza3> jrib: I mean, where is libmysql.so or whatever
[04:34] <eck> matkix0s: no, it was to veinor
[04:34] <matkix0s> Oh, alright.
[04:35] <matkix0s> So anyone know of any good GUI html editor? I have used dreamweaver in the past and was looking for something similar to that.
[04:35] <jrib> ramza3: you could use libdbd-mysql
[04:36] <Alysum> noooo reset is not the right thing to do ! :p
[04:36] <wick2o> hello
[04:37] <Madpilot> matkix0s, give NVU a shot, if you really must use a WYSIWYG HTML editor.
[04:37] <eck> matkix0s: bluefish is also pretty good
[04:37] <Veinor> How much of a resource hog is beryl?
[04:37] <ramza3> jrib, is that libmysql.so
[04:37] <Aurote> hi :)
[04:37] <eck> i think nvu is more point and click though
[04:37] <jrib> ramza3: it contains a file called that...
[04:37] <LadyNikon> what was that opensource vmwareish type program
[04:37] <Aurote> Skype fails to load when I start it. Here is a pastebin http://paste.uni.cc/13670
[04:37] <rik_> can someone give us a working repository that provides win32codecs? We've tried several from the forums and none are accessable.
[04:37] <LadyNikon> began with a X?
[04:38] <eck> xen?
[04:38] <aldeswar1> would ipv6 cause me to not be able to connect to a windows network?
[04:38] <bruenig> !w32codecs
[04:38] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:38] <LadyNikon> lemme see
[04:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, mp3 | rik_ Try the one listed here, it worked for me last week
[04:38] <ubotu> rik_ Try the one listed here, it worked for me last week: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:38] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, You still there?  Did it work?
[04:38] <aldeswar1> yeah didn't work :(
[04:38] <victori_> anyone feisty fan mirrors?
[04:39] <aldeswar1> it worked yesterday though so...
[04:39] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, What?
[04:39] <victori_> us.archive.ubuntu.com is really slow
[04:39] <aldeswar1> the sudo mount -smbfs command you gave me
[04:39] <colbert> Pelo: Thanks man that worked like a charm, great prog
[04:39] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, did you get an error?
[04:39] <Alysum> try iraq.archive.ubuntu.com then :p
[04:39] <aldeswar1> yeah
[04:39] <LadyNikon> hmm xen isnt it
[04:39] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, care to paste it?
[04:39] <LadyNikon> dang it.. and my buffer isnt large enough to scroll up
[04:40] <aldeswar1> yeah one sec
[04:40] <Veinor> what's a good size for a swap?
[04:40] <wick2o> 3x your amount of ram
[04:41] <Veinor> k.
[04:41] <genii> Veinor: Yes, 2-4x ram size
[04:41] <eck> uh, you don't need nearly that much
[04:41] <eck> you need as much as you use
[04:41] <eck> probably no more than a couple hundred MB just to be safe
[04:41] <aldeswar1> pump@pump-laptop:~$ sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/c /mnt
[04:41] <aldeswar1> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //<IP_ADDRESS>/c,
[04:41] <aldeswar1>        missing codepage or other error
[04:41] <aldeswar1>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[04:41] <aldeswar1>        dmesg | tail  or so
[04:41] <Veinor> couple hundred MB for swap?
[04:41] <genii> eck For doing diff on large files and suspend-to-ram etc you need quite a lot
[04:41] <eck> for a desktop that is fine
[04:42] <Veinor> this is a laptop
[04:42] <cafuego_> Veinor: If you want to be able to suspend/hibernate, size of ram plus a bit.
[04:42] <UvFii> hai ho... how do i register my nickname on this channel
[04:42] <Veinor> 2GB ram... 3?
[04:42] <cafuego_> genii: cerytainly not 4xram
[04:42] <Veinor>  /msg nickserv register <password>
[04:42] <wick2o> how big is your harddrive?
[04:42] <aldeswar1> the thing is i connected to it yesterday fine by just doing places>network servers>mshome
[04:42] <cafuego_> Veinor: Yeah, as most.
[04:42] <wick2o> or partition size aval for linux?
[04:42] <Veinor> I'm planning on allocatong 40 GB for linux
[04:43] <cafuego_> Veinor: You don't want to end up in a situation where the machine springs a meory leak and starts eating all your swap, it'd be impossible to recover.
[04:43] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, is there a firewall up on the xp box that wasn't there yesterday?  Did you update norton or anything, or windows?
[04:43] <fami> ah
[04:43] <aldeswar1> nope
[04:43] <genii> Veinor: Yes, cafuego is right about suspend-to-ram size. If you also want to be able to do diff command on dvd iso images make it to 4.8Gb
[04:43] <wick2o> Veinor: id use 1-3 gig for my swap easy
[04:43] <wick2o> ubunut desktop install isnt all that large
[04:43] <dimas> hello
[04:43] <cafuego_> genii: wtf would you diff iso images?
[04:44] <Veinor> heh. I'm not going to be diffing isos probably...
[04:44] <UvFii>  /msg nickserv UvFii register uvf39
[04:44] <cafuego_> genii: that's what md5sum is for.
[04:44] <wick2o> cafuego: development
[04:44] <fami> does anyone use irssi with default Terminal?
[04:44] <Veinor> I'll go with 3; i can always resize later, right?
[04:44] <cafuego_> wick2o: If you do that with diff you're doing something wrong.
[04:44] <genii> cafuego To apply a patch from a custom iso modified from a factory one
[04:44] <eck> fami: with gnome terminal? yes
[04:44] <cafuego_> Veinor: yeah, or add some.
[04:44] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, hmm.  I've never seen that before unless I messed the command up, or if windows wasn't sharing out properly.
[04:45] <eck> genii: you do _not_ need as much ram as the file size to use patch
[04:45] <UvFii>  /msg nickserv register 123456ap
[04:45] <cafuego_> genii: xdelta
[04:45] <mikefoo> Anyone know of a command line based tool for ripping dvds to a drive so I can backup and watch at later time if disc scratches?
[04:45] <Veinor> one last question: is a "mount:function not implemented" message that I saw when I booted the CD bad?
[04:45] <fami> eck: yes, abit hard to switch windows in irssi
[04:45] <Veinor> >_< Don't put a space before the /msg
[04:45] <genii> eck For diff you need swap the size of the largest file in the diff
[04:45] <eck> fami: edit > keyboard shortcuts
[04:45] <aldeswar1> i did install some packages today though on this machine
[04:45] <jikbag> does anyone know of a good GUI wireless network scanner?
[04:45] <Veinor> Now I recommend you use a diferent password, and change that one if you're actually using it.
[04:45] <aldeswar1> could that have anything to do with it?
[04:46] <jikbag> something that will just show me the local WAPs?
[04:46] <eck> i sincerely hope that diff will not try to map a 4GB file into one buffer
[04:46] <eck> that would be obscene
[04:46] <Veinor> *poke*
[04:46] <genii> eck It does and it is
[04:47] <eck> ok, diff has just been added to my list of evil programs
[04:47] <cafuego_> Why don't I try to run diff on my box with far less than 4GB ram+swap
[04:47] <guidex> anyone know of a way to mess with my keyboard keys? I Have a broken oposit ) key
[04:47] <guidex> or a charecter map program
[04:47] <fami> eck: how disable them by a click?
[04:48] <genii> cafuego Sure. Use 2 dvd iso then let me know when it chunks out :)
[04:48] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, on the ubuntu box you mean?
[04:48] <aldeswar1> yes
[04:48] <JBGood> guidex, xmodmap, afaik
[04:48] <eck> fami: you click the ones that are mapped to alt + number and hit backspace
[04:48] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, could be.  depends on what they were.
[04:48] <OldGeezer> jikbag look in your add/remove programs and search wireless, there is a list of apps for ubuntu there
[04:48] <Veinor> genii: If, when I started the liveCD, I got the message "mount: function not implemented", might that lead to very bad things later?
[04:48] <guidex> thanks kbgood that should help me until pay day when i can buy a new keyboard
[04:48] <cafuego_> Oh god, diff sucks.
[04:48] <Veinor> also something about a radio frequency; didn't have time to write that one down.
[04:48] <genii> Veinor It depends on the context.
[04:49] <aldeswar1> don't think i did anything besides libwxgtk2.6-0 and libwxbase
[04:49] <jikbag> OldGeezer: ty
[04:49] <fami> eck: ok..
[04:49] <aldeswar1> which were for WINE and mplayer
[04:49] <Veinor> genii The context was the terminal you get before the GUI totally boots up
[04:49] <genii> Veinor Likely some fs on a partiton that livecd has no fs driver for
[04:49] <aldeswar1> i'm going to try restarting as soon as i finish updating
[04:49] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, if that's the ONLY difference between yesterday and today, then that would be it.  You never can tell when windows is involved though what's the same and what isn't.
[04:49] <aldeswar1> yeah
[04:49] <Veinor> genii probably the recovery partition.
[04:49] <craigbass1976> :)
[04:49] <Aurote> Skype fails to load when I start it. Here is a pastebin http://paste.uni.cc/13670
[04:50] <fami> eck: another question: i am trying to install flash from http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/all/
[04:50] <spike723> hmm
[04:50] <jrib> ramza3: does that work for you?  There is probably more than one library you can use
[04:50] <fami> eck: and have error
[04:50] <eck> fami: i just use the flash in multiverse, i'm not familiar with that repository
[04:50] <genii> Veinor I have not had that specific error so a bit fuzzy on the ramifications later. But I would lean towards that if it installs / fine etc etc you can mount whatever problemmatic fs there may be later, like some odd ntfs or so
[04:50] <technel> I accidentally deleted /etc/X11/imwheel . I ran "sudo aptitude remove --purge imwheel" and then did an install again, but the files still don't re-appear. How do I do a complete reinstall?
[04:51] <ramza3> jrib: sort of, I have /usr/lib/libmysql.so.15  ...but I cant get it to load for some reason, but that might be another issue
[04:51] <fami> eck: ok.. one click to enable multiverse?
[04:51] <eck> fami: i think synaptic might have a clicky thing to turn it on, i'm not really sure
[04:52] <Veinor> genii yeah, sounds like a safe bet to me.
[04:52] <megafauna> Hi, what is the ubuntu equivilent of windows' system restore?
[04:52] <eck> megafauna: you take lots of backups :-)
[04:52] <payal> hi all
[04:52] <payal> does ubuntu has a chkconfig kinda thing
[04:52] <fami> eck: is it called Universe in LTS?
[04:52] <CokeNCode> what do i need to aptget to stream audio from online radio stations ?
[04:52] <Veinor> megafauna: I don't think there is one by default.
[04:52] <technel> Never mind, using dpkg worked
[04:53] <CokeNCode> i keep getting error messages about not being able to handle the file type
[04:53] <genii> megafauna: It does not have one,unless you had some kind of automated backup process running
[04:53] <CokeNCode> and i never did before
[04:53] <eck> fami: no, it is called multiverse everywhere, universe is something else
[04:53] <CokeNCode> oh wait, it works now :D
[04:53] <CokeNCode> yahoooooo
[04:53] <Veinor> I'm willing to bet 90% of system restore use is to give people more time for 30-day trials
[04:53] <payal> any ideas ?
[04:53] <eck> megafauna: there isn't really a registry to screw up, so it is not as much of an issue as you might think
[04:53] <fami> eck: maybe its new thing?
[04:54] <megafauna> ah. So I just recovered from a failed hardware acceleration install and luckily the bash code had created a backup of the config file.
[04:54] <sigger_> anyone recommend a good .chm reader (other than cnochm)?
[04:54] <eck> fami: no, multiverse has been around since ubuntu has, i think. it might not be enabled in the version of synaptic in LTS though
[04:54] <Veinor> what's LTS again?
[04:54] <megafauna> I'm back now but there isn't a restore point software I can d/l? If not, I'll jsut have to be more careful
[04:54] <Madpilot> Long Term Support
[04:54] <eck> fami: you can just edit the sources.list file of course
[04:54] <Veinor> ah
[04:54] <Veinor> yeah, I think multiverse is disabled by default in LTS.
[04:54] <eck> megafauna: /etc is pretty small, you can easily create backups of the whole thing
[04:55] <megafauna> Thanks for the comments all
[04:55] <Veinor> megafauna: We're here to help.
[04:55] <eck> tar -cvjf etc-backup.tar.bz2 /etc
[04:55] <megafauna> eck: so I'd backup etc on my iPod perhaps?
[04:55] <Veinor> if you wanted to do it that way
[04:55] <megafauna> can bash see it? /me checks
[04:55] <eck> megafauna: sure, i think if you bzip all of /etc it's < 10 MB
[04:55] <Veinor> Or you could do a CD-RW backup or something.
[04:56] <Veinor> Oh, it's that small? I'd back it up on my USB drive then. :-P
[04:56] <eck> and of course you can get it pretty tiny if you do differential backups or just backup the configs for the app you are breaking
[04:56] <fami> eck: ok.. i miss see, its in repos
[04:56] <megafauna> eck: ok, so i'll have to learn how to use bzip with the command line for next time I screw up my video driver
[04:56] <megafauna> eck can that be done?
[04:57] <eck> megafauna: no, just copy the xorg.conf to your home directory or something
[04:57] <eck> or you could just cp -r all of /etc, on my machine it is only 12 MB (uncompressed)
[04:57] <megafauna> eck: that is toooooo obvious for a newb like me to think of!
[04:57] <megafauna> eck Thanks!
[04:57] <genii> cp -a is good too
[04:57] <eck> yes
[04:57] <cafuego_> and rsync of course
[04:57] <megafauna> genii: cp is great. It saved me l10 min ago from hell
[04:58] <megafauna> Thanks all
[04:58] <genii> megafauna Glad yer getting comfortable on the commandline :)
[04:58] <cafuego_> or tar cj --rsh-command=/usr/bin/ssh -f user@remotehost:somefile.tar.bz2 /path/to/dir
[04:58] <Veinor> it saved me from having to open a file in hex and look up all the ascii codes for each of those weird characters so I could type them into another file!
[04:58] <eck> cafuego_: now you're just showing off :-)
[04:58] <Veinor> THAT would've been hell.
[04:58] <genii> eck LOL
[04:59] <cafuego_> eck: yeah, sorry...
[04:59] <fami> eck: is opera in that repo too?
[04:59] <IcemanV9> fami: apt-cache search opera
[04:59] <eck> i think opera provides their own packages, i'm not really sure
[04:59] <bruenig> I don't believe opera is in any of the repos
[04:59] <bruenig> you can get a deb from their site though
[05:00] <fami> bruenig: its on site
[05:00] <eck> opera isn't really free in any sense, and i don't think they let you redistribute it
[05:00] <spinexorz> can someone perhaps help me out really quick? is it possible to create separate groups for two NIC's for the purpose of assigning a specific NIC to a user in a system with multiple NIC's
[05:00] <kalorin> !last mojo
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about last mojo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <fami> bruenig: have offical support for ubuntu LTS
[05:00] <Veinor> I have a question: I know that RAM is faster than HD, so I tried to send my backups to /dev/kmem, but my computer crashed. Why?
[05:00] <eck> well i guess it's free as in beer
[05:00] <bruenig> fami, what are you going on about
[05:00] <kalorin> veinor, um... perhaps you've got more to back up than you have ram?
[05:01] <Veinor> (by the way, that was a joke)
[05:01] <bimberi> Opera is in {dapper|edgy}-commercial
[05:01] <kalorin> Veinor, never can tell here man
[05:01] <fami> bruenig: if it is in repo, i can to update easy...
[05:01] <IcemanV9> yikes! apt-cache search opera shows 840 apps! jeez!
[05:01] <bwlang> sponexorz: no, you can't assign a nic to a user
[05:01] <bruenig> fami, what language do you speak
[05:01] <bruenig> well you know the package would be called opera
[05:01] <bwlang> sponexorz: if you really want to do that consider using virtual machines
[05:01] <ramza3> jrib, hmm, but I am still looking for libmysql
[05:01] <bruenig> so just do apt-cache show opera
[05:02] <Veinor> I'm used to chatting with people that're more experienced with the subject matter
[05:02] <Veinor> I'm guessing they have?
[05:02] <spinexorz> you bet
[05:02] <Veinor> openoffice.org
[05:03] <spinexorz> is it possible to create separate groups for two NIC's for the purpose of assigning a specific NIC to a user in a system with multiple NIC's?
[05:03] <rik_> bruenig: I've followed the suggested website several pages deep and am still somewhat confused as to what I need to do. Can you, or someone, please instruct what lines can be appended to /etc/apt/sources.list that will enable the package manager to retrieve win32codecs?
[05:04] <Veinor> I still use Office 2003 on his windows part, but that's just because I have a spare license for it and it is actually better than OO.
[05:04] <Veinor> s/his/my/
[05:04] <OldGeezer> spinexorz- no its not
[05:04] <spinexorz> rik_ try automatix2
[05:04] <kelvin95335> `info
[05:04] <fami> bruenig: ok.. what with language?
[05:04] <spinexorz> is there any way to assign a NIC to a user?
[05:04] <Veinor> Where can I get a copy of Vista for Linux?
[05:05] <spinexorz> OldGeezer
[05:05] <bruenig> fami, do you speak anything other than english
[05:05] <OldGeezer> no
[05:05] <spinexorz> crud
[05:05] <spinexorz> thx
[05:05] <fetcher> spinexorz: running two separate virtual machine environments could do that, but that's quite a job to set up
[05:05] <jrib> ramza3: does that workramza3: well afaik (be forewarned I never worked with mysql in C), libmysqlclient15off is what you want for the regular mysql library, but if you want to abstract it you can use libdbd-mysql
[05:05] <OldGeezer> hardware is not assignable except in a VMenvironment
[05:05] <fami> bruenig: yes, ubuntu is for many language
[05:05] <Veinor> n31 have ne ubuntu serialz? lololol. OK, now I have to wash my hands for doing that.
[05:05] <rik_> spinexorz: I'd prefer to work with what I understand, ed and a terminal screen, and use the package manager.
[05:05] <ramza3> jrib, let me write  a simple C example and get back to you
[05:06] <bruenig> fami, what language do you speak
[05:06] <spinexorz> automatix is literaly a wizard, you dont need to understand it, you allready know
[05:06] <fetcher> spinexorz: what are you looking to do?  Some iproute2 rules could possibly come close, especially if you can convince certain applications to bind to particular IP addresses on the multi-homed box
[05:06] <rmbell> does anyone have a good guide to getting a server going with rails?
[05:06] <IcemanV9> rik_: wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb , THEN sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[05:06] <fami> bruenig: english?
[05:07] <spinexorz> im just looking to have two users each with a respective NIC
[05:07] <OldGeezer> errr I think the IP stacks would have a fit trying to figure out which IP to use
[05:07] <bruenig> dang iceman beat me to it
[05:07] <rik_> IcemanV9: I'll give that a try, and thanks.
[05:07] <bruenig> I was typing that out
[05:07] <bruenig> fami, oh, you don't do so very well, I assumed perhaps it was a second language, and there are other channels with different languages
[05:08] <IcemanV9> :D (better than automatix2 stuff ;)
[05:08] <bruenig> except I was going to && it
[05:08] <Dr_willis> ack.. AUtomatix.. hurts ussssss..... my precious....
[05:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:08] <fetcher> spinexorz: iproute & iptables rules can do things like routing traffic differently based on port number (I do this at home to split traffic across DSL & cable)... still difficult to set up, but less so than VM environments probably
[05:08] <foo> Audacity says: "There was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You will not be able to play or record audio. Error: Host error." - Any ideas? Other audio works fine.
[05:08] <bwlang> spinexorz: i've already told you , you can't assign users to nics.... maybe you want something like a traffic control script to sessions each get their fair share?
[05:09] <eck> spinexorz: that is not really how network works, you'd have to have some sort of support in the kernel to do that and afaik it does not exist
[05:09] <kalorin> spinexorz, you could potentially do traffic shaping for protocols
[05:09] <IcemanV9> bruenig: ha. yea, i just simpified it and send him to the happy land (able to watch video from apple.com or wherever)
[05:09] <kalorin> but that's about all you can do like that
[05:09] <eck> i'm not really even sure what use case that would be good for
[05:09] <sigger_> how do I turn on the ssh server in ubuntu desktop?
[05:09] <gnat_x> a while back i compiled a couple things from source, that were in the apt repositories. anyway, since i don't have much experience with non apt managed packages, i just wanted som advice on removing them. can i just blow away the dir that they are installed in?
[05:09] <eck> sigger_: just get the openssh-server package
[05:09] <eck> i think it will start itself up
[05:10] <sigger_> ah, thanks eck
[05:10] <gnat_x> umm i mean, were not in the apt repositories
[05:10] <tombow> what are the possible prefixes for scripts (or links to scripts) in /etc/rc2.d?
[05:10] <eck> gnat_x: it sort of depends what prefix you installed them to
[05:10] <eck> gnat_x: if you have the directories you compiled in you can probably make uninstall
[05:11] <gnat_x> eck: ok, cool. i
[05:11] <gnat_x> will try that
[05:11] <bruenig> gnat_x, you can just delete all the files that it installed
[05:11] <gnat_x> bruenig: i'll try that failing a make uninstall.
[05:11] <fami> bruenig: oh yes, have you any sugguestion to improve english skill?
[05:11] <eck> if you installed to /usr it might be kind of hard to find all the files it installed
[05:11] <crazy_bus> I installed edubuntu on a friends computer.  However while the resolution is meant to be 1280x it only displays 800x600 and wont go higher.  How do I fix this?
[05:12] <bruenig> fami, I mean you aren't bad, its just that ubuntu has a channel for nearly every language, so it would probably be easier for you to go to those channels
[05:12] <sigger_> eck: bingo.  thanks.
[05:12] <tombow> what are the possible prefixes for scripts (or links to scripts) in /etc/rc2.d?
[05:13] <rik_> IcemanV9 & bruenig: Slow connection here in Thailand, so it's showing an ETA of 48+ minutes, but working.
[05:13] <kalorin> S and K I think
[05:13] <spinexorz> thx to all that replied
[05:13] <kalorin> tombow, S and K
[05:13] <kalorin> S for start, K for kill
[05:13] <gnat_x> eck: great that look like it worked, thanks for answering my stupid questions.
[05:13] <eck> haha, no problem
[05:13] <kalorin> I live for stupid questions
[05:13] <kalorin> :)
[05:13] <fami> bruenig: thanks for that info.
[05:14] <tombow> kalorin, only 2? i've seen others in other distros iirc
[05:14] <fami> :) got flash + opera works
[05:14] <kalorin> those are the ones that I've seen
[05:14] <IcemanV9> rik_: ah. it's only 14M file. :/
[05:14] <kalorin> rc2.d is run level 2 obviously
[05:14] <kalorin> it's going to either start it or stop it
[05:14] <gnat_x> yeah, i've been using linux for a while, just never stepped out of managed packages much
[05:14] <kalorin> they're just symlinks to /etc/init.d
[05:14] <kalorin> and the script after the K##<name>
[05:14] <eck> gnat_x: next time prefix the packages to /usr/local and make things easy on yourself
[05:14] <spinexorz> im guessing that the things you can do with multiple NIC's are very limited
[05:14] <kalorin> or S##<name>
[05:15] <sammyF> can anybody tell me in which directory xorg looks for drivers? I seem to have installed the new ATI drivers alright, but apparently they are not called fglrx (probably fglrx-something)
[05:15] <eck> usually with ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
[05:15] <kalorin> spinexorz, you could just alias your nick and do it all with 1 :)
[05:15] <gnat_x> eck: i did in fact to that. in which case i could've rm -rf'd em?
[05:15] <bruenig> it generally prefixes to /usr/local anyways
[05:15] <eck> gnat_x: yeah, if that's the only thing you have in there
[05:15] <kalorin> sammyF, kernel drivers or others?
[05:15] <kalorin> kernel drivers are going to be in /lib/kernel or something such
[05:15] <rik_> IcemanV9: I'm on a satellite and the Gov is fighting over who should own it now, Thailand or Singapore.
[05:15] <eck> bruenig: you never know :-)
[05:15] <kalorin> do a dpkg -l *fglrx*
[05:16] <sammyF> kalorin, If I only knew ;)
[05:16] <kalorin> get the package name then ask the package for it's contents
[05:16] <thursday241>
[05:16] <kalorin> rik_, I ove thailand
[05:16] <sammyF> kalorin, I have the package here on my desktop
[05:16] <eck> rik_: they don't know whose satellite it is???
[05:16] <kalorin> rik_, they've got more famous hookers :)
[05:17] <kalorin> sammyF, just ask it with dpkg
[05:17] <rik_> eck: Thaksin, the deposed PM sold it to Singapore.
[05:17] <sammyF> kalorin, could it be fglrx_drv.so ?
[05:17] <spinexorz> kalorin i think that doesnt apply to my case, i need two users two nic's but it cant be done
[05:18] <kalorin> sammyF, very well could be
[05:18] <rik_> kalorin: The hookers are far from me, I'm about 2 clicks from Laos.
[05:18] <kalorin> ah
[05:18] <sammyF> kalorin,  well ..I'll try that. THanks ..
[05:19] <kalorin> sure
[05:19] <kalorin> heh
[05:19] <eck> i say whoever has the ssh key (or whatever they use) owns it
[05:19] <eck> i could totally run a country
[05:19] <spinexorz> i understand it is possible to setup asingle system with 2 displays and 2 sets of mouse and keyboard, isnt that the same as assigning something like a NIC
[05:19] <kalorin> running xubuntu with a vmware instance running XP running photoshop
[05:19] <kalorin> 259megs of ram used
[05:19] <kalorin> 14megs of swap
[05:19] <kalorin> beautiful
[05:19] <kalorin> editing wedding photos :)
[05:20] <Crescendo> I need to sort my entire MP3 collection by directory, some items of which have bad tags, or none at all. What is my best option?
[05:20] <kalorin> I love "teh Lunix!"
[05:20] <spinexorz> i even read somewhere that you could assign a soundcard
[05:20] <Dr_willis> spinexorz,  i imagine its doable.. but may take some work.
[05:20] <IcemanV9> sammyF: what are you trying to do? xorg.conf will find it and displays X with fglrx driver. (fglrxinfo will give details)
[05:20] <kalorin> spinexorz, you're talking about Xwindows
[05:20] <Madpilot> Crescendo, EasyTag is a good tag editor; it has mass-editing options to tweak whole batches of files at once, which will help if you've got a mess to sort out
[05:20] <spinexorz> it was a nblog article about making a internet cafe on the cheap
[05:20] <Dr_willis> spinexorz,  easier to just get a 2nd  cheap pc and have it work as a 'x terminal'
[05:20] <eck> spinexorz: that is different, that has the cooperation of the X server
[05:20] <kalorin> and more specifically running 2 clients
[05:21] <Crescendo> Madpilot, thanks a bunch. :)
[05:21] <kalorin> nics aren't liek that
[05:21] <kalorin> sorry
[05:21] <mmdf_xp> alguem me ajuda , tem um amigo que ta sem adsl ele tem o modem : PCTel micro modem sera que e dificil instala?
[05:21] <bruenig> !es
[05:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:21] <eck> spinexorz: it is possible to write a program to use a specific interface, but you need to explicitly code that in to your application
[05:21] <spinexorz> yea
[05:21] <spinexorz> thanks a bunch
[05:21] <spinexorz> im out
[05:21] <Crescendo> My #1 fear, Madpilot - is when I go to rename the files, if a file has tags, but they're wrong, it'll erase the possibility of nabbing the correct tag info from the filename. =(
[05:21] <rik_> IcemanV9: Getting about 3 KB/s and 12 MB to go with an ETA near an hour, so I'll let it run and do something on another system until it finishes.
[05:21] <lxuser> somebody know how can I add a wm (windows manager to gdm), have already compiled kde with construct and I would like to load it from gdm
[05:22] <kalorin> maybe I watch BSG while I'm working on these photos :)
[05:22] <Madpilot> Crescendo, edit the tag first, then rename - EasyTag can do the file renaming too
[05:22] <IcemanV9> rik_: you'll be fine once you installed it :D
[05:22] <Flannel> lxuser: why did you compile it?  It's in the repositories
[05:22] <Flannel> lxuser: and, the one from the repositories, adds an entry to GDM
[05:22] <Crescendo> Madpilot, yep, that's what I'm talking about - but I'm afraid of doing a full recursive rename, because I have no idea what files are tagged wrong. :(
[05:22] <michael_the_choi> would anyone know why the panel NetworkManager Applet would be goofing up my wireless?
[05:23] <Madpilot> Crescendo, ah... messy. You might be reduced to checking the tags & name of each individual MP3 file, which is no fun...
[05:23] <eck> michael_the_choi: it does that sometimes
[05:23] <eck> what is it doing?
[05:24] <lxuser> I know but what to test it from source just to see how it works, anyway It is installed in my home dir soo no problem with messing up things right
[05:24] <Crescendo> Madpilot, maybe a backup is in order?
[05:24] <Madpilot> Crescendo, if you've got the space, it might not be a bad idea.
[05:24] <IneedHelp> im desperate for help
[05:24] <michael_the_choi> eck- it won't let me connect. ;-) It sees my modem, but the icon spins and then it gives up.  I asked a linux friend of mine (who, however, doesn't use ubuntu), and he said the config files were right, and to reboot and just try it- and it worked, but the panel applet says there's no connection, and evidently, as soon as I click it, it wipes the information.
[05:24] <fami> I have some TTFs font, could i add them to ubuntu LTS?
[05:24] <Crescendo> It might be tight, I'll check.  Thanks for your help, Madpilot.
[05:24] <Madpilot> ubotu, ask | IneedHelp
[05:24] <ubotu> IneedHelp: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:24] <Madpilot> fami, yes
[05:25] <Madpilot> ubotu, fonts | fami
[05:25] <ubotu> fami: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:25] <eck> michael_the_choi: see if you can get it going with dhclient (I am assuming you are using dhcp)
[05:25] <fami> Madpilot: one click?
[05:25] <IneedHelp> well, my xp wont load on my other computer, ubuntu isnt even loaded on my system, yet i cannot boot to my xp
[05:25] <michael_the_choi> eck- it's going now.
[05:25] <ScreaminIke> so... i had this app built into my windows install to access my ext3 partitions. and it works. mostly. except ubuntu handles filenames that include colons. win32 does not. and i'm pretty sure that win32 just hosed the whole part. can i get some help recovering it? it thinks it's clean, but it can't access anything...
[05:25] <Madpilot> fami, not quite one click, but no more steps than adding fonts to XP requires. Have a look at the URL the bot just gave you
[05:25] <michael_the_choi> Because I haven't clicked the applet. ;-)
[05:26] <IneedHelp> i tried to disable and run on integrated graphics because i have an ATI car, well after i did that. XP wont work
[05:26] <IcemanV9> fami: it is in repo, too. - sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts
[05:26] <michael_the_choi> But I don't understand all the secret inner workings, and would like to know that if I go to Panera, I can join their network too, and stuff.
[05:26] <IneedHelp> I hear XP boot. I hear that opening tune. However, i cant see anything
[05:27] <IneedHelp> I just see a black screen
[05:27] <eck> michael_the_choi: i say just cross your fingers when the next version comes out. there used to be a wireless AP that I just could not connect to with NM, but I had absolutely no issues with iwconfig and dhclient
[05:27] <rikc> Would anyone mind helping me upgrade Amarok and install MP3 support?  I've tried several guides, and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I cannot get this to work.
[05:27] <michael_the_choi> whacky.
[05:27] <eck> i think what happens is sometimes NM gets into a mode where it keeps trying to reconnect before it finishes the handshake
[05:27] <IneedHelp> I know that it booted but there is only a black screen with no signal
[05:27] <michael_the_choi> Ok, I'll just leave it alone for now.  Is that something that it'll automatically check for updates on?
[05:27] <workbee> hi all, am having a wired networking issue. It connects but then as soon as it tries to transmit data the connection drops and then reconnects, happening every time. Any ideas how I can troubleshoot this?
[05:28] <cyprene> g 9870
[05:28] <fami> Madpilot: wish to have a tool that browse to the dir that included fonts then install
[05:28] <IcemanV9> IneedHelp: can you Ctrl+Alt+F1 ? were you able to see console login??
[05:29] <IneedHelp> no
[05:29] <fami> IcemanV9: its not mstfffont
[05:29] <rikc> anyone?
[05:29] <IneedHelp> once XP loaded and the opening tune was played, there was no signal
[05:29] <IneedHelp> i checked all my plugs and connections
[05:29] <Madpilot> fami, there isn't really a tool like that AFAIK
[05:29] <Kewlb> basic question.. not really ubuntu related and probably a dumb question... can you run a 32 bit OS if you have a 64 bit proccessor?
[05:29] <Madpilot> Kewlb, yes
[05:30] <IneedHelp> i know that my monitor is fine because i saw the POST screen for my mobo and the loading screen for xp with the bar bouncing back and forth
[05:30] <IcemanV9> oh! you cannot do Ctrl+Alt+F1 in XP.
[05:30] <Kewlb> k, tkz.
[05:30] <tombow> is there a way to remove drm from wmv's?
[05:30] <eck> workbee: i would turn off ipv6 (and maybe tcp window scaling) and see if that fixes anything... if you are really feeling ambitious you can open up wireshark and see what is happening when the connection drops
[05:30] <tombow> in linux
[05:30] <fami> Madpilot: ubuntu would have?
[05:30] <IcemanV9> fami: ok.
[05:30] <russel1> tombow: not really
[05:30] <IneedHelp> i cant see anything
[05:30] <Madpilot> fami, no, Ubuntu doesn't have a tool like that as far as I know. It's easy to install/uninstall fonts, though.
[05:30] <rikc> well, thanks anyway.
[05:30] <tombow> damn
[05:31] <IneedHelp> i really need help because i have a thesis paper to wrie and my rough draft was on my other computer
[05:31] <russel1> as far as I know you have to open the .wmv in media player and use one of the programs that somehow decrypts it from there (steals the key from media player I think)
[05:31] <russel1> you could run XP in a virtual machine though
[05:31] <fami> Madpilot: ok. many people (include me) likes that
[05:31] <workbee> eck: looking at the syslog I do see a message saying that no IPv6 routers are present. How do i go about turning off ipv6?
[05:31] <ardchoille> !ipv6
[05:31] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:32] <workbee> thanks :)
[05:32] <ardchoille> :)
[05:32] <eck> IneedHelp: it could be that your video card died
[05:32] <IneedHelp> well shit
[05:32] <IneedHelp> how can i be sure?
[05:33] <fami> Madpilot: its easy ;)
[05:33] <IneedHelp> how can i tell if my card is dead?
[05:34] <eck> IneedHelp: can you see anything when you start the computer? like when it posts?
[05:34] <IneedHelp> yes
[05:34] <eck> see if you can boot into single user mode
[05:34] <eck> it's the recovery option in grub
[05:34] <IneedHelp> I can see everything normal except the blue xp screen that says like "welcom"
[05:36] <eck> probably you got lucky and the basic functionality of the video card still works, but whatever components the accelerated video driver tries to use have failed
[05:36] <IcemanV9> IneedHelp: try xp in safe mode
[05:36] <IneedHelp> how can i be sure?
[05:37] <eck> well if it works with the linux vesa driver and whatever safe mode uses, but not with your normal desktop, you'll be pretty sure
[05:37] <IneedHelp> thats the problem
[05:37] <IneedHelp> i cannot even get the livecd to work
[05:37] <rikc> Anyone at all able to help me upgrade amarok and set up mp3 support?  I've tried the official site, several different guides, Easyubuntu, I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.  Anyone?
[05:38] <reaspired> I trying to get mythtv to work, I made a user but home folder doesnt exist. sudo useradd mythtv
[05:39] <jrandolph> i'm having trouble installing my ATI x800 graphics card... can anyone point me to some good resources?
[05:39] <IneedHelp> when i tried to get ubuntu to work, i changed a setting in my BIOS to switch the initial monitor from PCI to PEB. then when that didnt work i changed it back, then i got my problem
[05:39] <OldGeezer> !ati
[05:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:39] <eck> reaspired: then create the home directory
[05:39] <jrandolph> thanks ubotu, i hope it works
[05:39] <eck> i think it will be created if you just try to su to the account
[05:40] <rikc> Hell, even a link to an FAQ I may not have tried would be appreciated.  Just something?
[05:40] <arrow> anyone in here play widelands?
[05:40] <Hmmmm> guys, what time does the daily cron run?
[05:40] <Sonic_13> if i want to set up a home server where I can save and access files, would it better to setup and FTP or NFS server?
[05:40] <CarpeD> evening fellas :)
[05:41] <reaspired> eck, it doesn't create a home folder, I set its group as a same as main account, as it says in a guide.
[05:41] <eck> Sonic_13: nfs is better for a lan
[05:41] <jrandolph> capreD, that's kind of presumptions of you... what if there aren't guys here...
[05:41] <jrandolph> aww who am i kidding
[05:41] <Sonic_13> ok
[05:41] <russel1> lol!
[05:41] <CarpeD> fellas could mean guys and gals...i would hope
[05:41] <Sonic_13> what if I wanted both lan and wan?
[05:41] <arrow> Sonic_13: my roomie keeps talking about a NAS server, networked attached storage, you might want to check it out
[05:41] <rikc> Great, guess I'm still on my own.  thanks anyway.
[05:42] <billy> So is GnomeSword2 simple not installable on Edgy?
[05:42] <eck> reaspired: i think you need to pass a special option to create the homedirectory with useradd, if it doesn't exist you should just create it yourself
[05:42] <russel1> does anyone here go to Oregon State University?
[05:42] <Sonic_13> ok
[05:42] <russel1> and/or have experience with their network?
[05:42] <CarpeD> is there a way to use acronis iso image to restore a dual boot ubuntu install?
[05:42] <lance_> Hi everyone, I just upgrade my computer a few days ago. My older one was an 800mhz athlon with 256mb of memory running Dapper, it worked fairly well... My new system is a P4 2ghz with also 256mb of memory running edgy.. The problem is my new system is crawling, its running at less than 1/3 of the speed of the older system and is nearly 500mb in swap.
[05:42] <dannyc> I am trying to install vmware on ubuntu server and am getting an error suring installationa bout the time being in the future, I am assuming this is from the DST updates. does anyone know how to update the time for the new DST in ubuntu server?
[05:42] <CarpeD> and not get the grub error 22
[05:42] <eck> arrow, Sonic_13: that is bascially just a fancy way of using nfs :-)
[05:43] <OldGeezer> Sonic_13 if you get a NAS be sure and check the specs, some of the cheap ones only allow 5 concurrent connections at once
[05:43] <arrow> eck: my ignorance revealed
[05:43] <Sonic_13> if I set up a NFS server can I access it from outside my LAN?
[05:43] <russel1> lance_: is it using all of the physical memory? what is the CPU doing?
[05:43] <eck> Sonic_13: well you can natively mount an nfs share, not so with ftp
[05:43] <lance_> russel1, all the physical is being used up as well, the CPU usage is fine.
[05:43] <detectiveinspekt> how do I change the SPEED of the mouse?
[05:43] <eck> Sonic_13: they're useful for different things
[05:43] <Sonic_13> hmmm
[05:43] <detectiveinspekt> I seem to be working too hard
[05:43] <OldGeezer> Sonic_13 you can use VPN to get to it
[05:43] <russel1> how much swap do you have?
[05:43] <eck> detectiveinspekt: xset m a b
[05:44] <eck> replace a and b with appropriate numbers
[05:44] <lance_> russel1, it's also a fresh install, just a couple of days ago.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> i dident think 'nfs' was considered safe to go out over the wild and nasty internet. :)
[05:44] <eck> the man page explains what they mean
[05:44] <billy> Any good Bible study apps in Edgy?
[05:44] <Pollywog> Dr_willis: correct
[05:44] <ardchoille> detectiveinspekt: Preferences -> Mouse  go to the Motion tab
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !find bible
[05:44] <ubotu> Found: bible-kjv, bible-kjv-text, bibledit, bibletime, bibletime-i18n
[05:44] <Steve-O> I'm new to computers.  I'm trying to watch a DVD on Ubuntu.  Am I at the right place?
[05:44] <russel1> lance_, how much swap do you have?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[05:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:44] <OldGeezer> Sonic_13 VPN would be a better option for accessing a NFS or NAS device
[05:44] <dragonriot> !find ninan
[05:44] <dannyc> Does anyone know hot do do the new DST updates in Ubuntu Server 6.06?
[05:44] <ubotu> Package/file ninan does not exist in edgy
[05:45] <lance_> russel1, approximately 700mb
[05:45] <billy> If only you know, Dr_willis, how totally lame those programs are.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> billy,  no idea.. not the sort of thing i really care about.. You asked.. i answered. :)
[05:45] <Veinor> Argh.
[05:45] <Sonic_13> i would set up a VPN with my wireless router, right?
[05:45] <Veinor> I installed ubuntu, and now I can't boot to my windows partitin.
[05:45] <billy> Dr_willis.  No, ubotu answered.  Thanks though.
[05:45] <russel1> lance_ have you messed with your graphics driver?
[05:45] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Watching a DVD?
[05:46] <eck> dannyc: the timezone files were updated to reflect the changes some time ago
[05:46] <dragonriot> anyone here running ninan??  www.ninan.org if you don't know what it is... no matter what I do, or how I do it, I can't get that thing to run...
[05:46] <con-man> !botabuse | ubotu
[05:46] <ubotu> ubotu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:46] <con-man> lolololol
[05:46] <arrow> Steve-O: use VLC
[05:46] <Dr_willis> billy,  but who told the bot to answer you. :)
[05:46] <detectiveinspekt> ty
[05:46] <lance_> russel1, So my new system runngin edgy is using up all of the 256mb of physical memory, plus nearly 500mb of swap. Needless to say, its crawling like a baby, switching between two open windows takes minutes at some times.
[05:46] <shane634> dannyc, mine is working great with no need to change the time
[05:46] <lance_> russel1, no.
[05:46] <Sonic_13> so if I set up my ubuntu computer for NFS and then use a VPN for outside access, would that be ok / secure?
[05:46] <OldGeezer> Sonic_13 VPN would be setup in the router for passthrough, yes but remember its for WAN access of the network
[05:47] <Sonic_13> ok
[05:47] <lance_> russel1, its running the standard i810 intel driver
[05:47] <naknomik> Samba 3.0 server, Vista Ultimate client don't play well. Can't see directory listing from Vista if I use UNC (\\server\share\directory etc.), if I map the share as drive I can see the files but most apps fail to load those files unless I manually copy them to local disk. Has anybody encountered this problem?
[05:47] <Steve-O> It worked using totem
[05:47] <dragonriot> !wmp
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <russel1> hmmm..... thats really strange, I have a system about like that (athlon xp 1700+, 256mb of RAM) and its fairly snappy
[05:47] <naknomik> here is my samba config: http://pastebin.ca/394132
[05:47] <Steve-O> should i do something better?
[05:47] <Veinor> When I boot into Vista, it just displays the loading (the scrolling green procress bar) for a while.
[05:47] <russel1> try the forums (www.ubuntuforums.org)
[05:47] <Veinor> Maybe it's actually loading, but I don't think so. It usually takes a lot less time.
[05:47] <mistone> naknomik: thats retarded that vista doesn't follow same standards as XP
[05:47] <arrow> Steve-O: I like totem also, did you have a question?
[05:47] <shane634> vista is bad
[05:47] <eck> lance_: you should use top or ps to see what is hogging all the ram
[05:47] <dragonriot> vista sucks
[05:47] <Veinor> Any idea WTF is going on?
[05:47] <mistone> I tried vista
[05:47] <mistone> then I went back to ubuntu
[05:48] <mistone> its horrible
[05:48] <Steve-O> No, but this is the first good news I had since using linux
[05:48] <Veinor> And can someone please offer me some more advice than "vista sucks?"
[05:48] <arrow> I got a bad vista no littering picture on my Myspace
[05:48] <mistone> uninstall it
[05:48] <Veinor> I already know that.
[05:48] <rbil> !resolution
[05:48] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:48] <lance_> eck, tried that, what should i look at? virtual? resident, or shared memory?
[05:48] <shane634> Veinor, sorry i can't
[05:48] <mistone> use XP
[05:48] <con-man> !X
[05:48] <mistone> its decent
[05:48] <dannyc> eck: I am getting :Extracting the sources of the vmmon module.
[05:48] <dannyc> tar: vmmon-only/linux/driver.h: time stamp 2007-02-04 23:24:45 is 34566265 s in the future
[05:48] <arrow> Steve-O: I switched over 6 months ago and love, I can't find a irc to help me with windows problems
[05:48] <Veinor> Advice on how to fix the boot, something that doesn't involve losing all that data.
[05:49] <Sonic_13> is there a help page that could guide me on accessing the NFS server from a Windows XP machine?
[05:49] <eck> i think resident, or else you can just take the easy way out and look at the memory percentage (in top)
[05:49] <jesusphreak> how do I get ubuntu to boot up when I am turning on my Macbook (from the Live CD)?
[05:49] <mistone> how do I format a microSD card?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> jesusphreak,  i think you hold down the C key
[05:49] <mistone> with 64k allocation
[05:49] <jesusphreak> is that shift-c or just 'c'?
[05:49] <Steve-O> Does anybody know why my desktop icons are disappearing?  Does this sound familiar?  I've been having this problema dn the only way to resolve it is by rebooting.
[05:50] <Pollywog> you mean 64MB?
[05:50] <mistone> no?
[05:50] <Pollywog> never seen a 64Kb one
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Steve-O,  which icons? all of them ? or just some?
[05:50] <mistone> Fat16 64k allocation
[05:50] <mistone> thats what I meant
[05:50] <Pollywog> o
[05:50] <Steve-O> all of them
[05:50] <mistone> its for a gig stick
[05:50] <mistone> er
[05:50] <ardchoille> Steve-O: The desktop icons are managed by nautilus. If nautilus dies, the desktop icons will go away. Do you also lose your desktop right click menu?
[05:50] <mistone> card
[05:51] <Steve-O> I don't know.  It sometimes happens when I'm right-clicking an icon and click on Properties in the context menu.  Then it freezes.  Just the menu and my icons disappear
[05:52] <Steve-O> how would I know if Nautilus died?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> if the icons and right click meny vanish. :)
[05:52] <ardchoille> Steve-O: When that happens, just restart nautilus and see if that helps.
[05:52] <Steve-O> HOw do I do that?
[05:53] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Applications -> Accessories -> File Browser
[05:53] <fami> too great
[05:53] <Flannel> dannyc: is your hardware clock set correctly?
[05:53] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Are you using Feisty?
[05:53] <Steve-O> I don't have File Browser under Accessories.
[05:53] <Steve-O> I'm using Edgy
[05:53] <lance_> eck, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10315/  is the top 6 memory usage processes from top
[05:53] <jeisma> how do i find where my linux source directory is located?
[05:54] <Sonic_13> anyone have a link to a help page / guide for setting up NFS?
[05:54] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Well, you can run nautilus from a terminal or make a panel launcher for it
[05:54] <fami> ubuntu LTS works great
[05:54] <Steve-O> I'm not sure what to type in the terminal
[05:54] <Pollywog> jeisma did you look in /usr/src/linux?
[05:54] <tombow> i just installed LTS server on 5 servers at work
[05:54] <fami> my desktop is cool now :)
[05:54] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[05:54] <b00gz> Sonic_13: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[05:54] <b00gz> ardchoille beat me to it
[05:54] <Sonic_13> thanks!
[05:54] <jeisma> Pollywog im installing a wireless network adaptor wpc11 ver3, and one of the questions was if that path was the linux source directory to just hit enter
[05:55] <jeisma> otherwise enter the path
[05:55] <jeisma> i hit enter, and it indicated that that wasn't it i guess
[05:55] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Just type nautilus in the terminal
[05:55] <jeisma> any way to find where my linux source directory is?
[05:55] <Pollywog> jeisma: have you installed the kernel sources?
[05:55] <arrow> Steve-O: try nautilus
[05:55] <jeisma> Pollywog i'm guessing now, how do i go about doing that?
[05:55] <Steve-O> That's awesome
[05:55] <jeisma> not*
[05:55] <tombow> jeisma: usually /usr/src/linux or /usr/src/linux-*
[05:56] <Sonic_13> it says "E: Couldn't find package nfs-kerner-server"
[05:56] <Steve-O> So it opened up the root file, I suppose.
[05:56] <Pollywog> jeisma: the 'uname -a' command will tell you which kernel headers and sources you need to install
[05:56] <jimd3299> Hi there, If I can ask a noob question.  It appears that there are more applications installed in the default than are listed in the menus e.g. Bittorrent.  How can I make menu items of software that is already on my new ubuntu system?  I'm aware of Add/Remove and Synaptic, just curious about "what I've already got"
[05:57] <ardchoille> jimd3299: Right click the menu, choose Edit Menu, and then check the ones you want to appear
[05:57] <Steve-O> So I should restart it?  How is that?
[05:57] <jeisma> Pollywog i got this:  #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:58] <dannyc> Does anyone know why I recieve this message on a fresh isntall of Ubuntu Server 6.06? tar: vmware-mui-distrib/mui/src/lib: time stamp 2007-02-05 00:18:29 is 34568906 s in the future
[05:58] <Akuma_> my networking interface died - a get the bug report tool every time i try to open it, and i have no working internet connection. can anyone help?
[05:58] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Open a terminal, type nautilus, press the Enter key
[05:58] <jeisma> where do i download whatever that means?
[05:58] <Sonic_13> is it difficult to install apache to host a web page on lan?
[05:58] <b00gz> Sonic_13: very easy
[05:58] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: No
[05:58] <Steve-O> I did that and it apparently opened up my root folder
[05:58] <Pollywog> that is all it says?
[05:58] <jimd3299> ardchoille: so there aren't any "more" than those lurking on my HD?  I see Bittorrent but I guess I figured there was stuff that wasn't listed in the menu/edit...
[05:58] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Are you logged in as root?
[05:58] <Pollywog> uname -a
[05:59] <b00gz> Sonic_13: check out this site http://www.howtoforge.com
[05:59] <shane634> Akuma_, wired or wireless?
[05:59] <ardchoille> jimd3299: The items in the menus are parsed from the items in /usr/share/applications
[05:59] <jeisma> Pollywog this came before it: 2.6.15-23-386
[05:59] <ctrl_x> can any one tell me can i install win98Se over ubuntu, i have total 40 Gb of HDD
[05:59] <Pollywog> jeisma that is what you need, that part you just posted
[05:59] <Steve-O> Actually i am and I don't know why, but a buddy of mine who installed the OS has told me that I can only use the root until he does something with it.
[05:59] <kaushal> Hi
[05:59] <Steve-O> Is this a problem?
[05:59] <jeisma> Pollywog so how do I go about installing the kernel source or whatever?
[05:59] <Akuma_> shane634:  wireless. i'm connected to the lan though, i just dont get any internet connection (3 other computers on the lan are).
[05:59] <shane634> jeisma, you should put windows on first then ubuntu
[05:59] <ardchoille> jeisma: Which Ubuntu are you using?
[05:59] <Steve-O> I have no idea what root even means
[06:00] <kaushal> when i try to install stunnel4_4.090-1_i386.deb
[06:00] <kaushal> I get
[06:00] <jeisma> shane534 i have windows on here, my network adaptors aren't working
[06:00] <Sonic_13> thanks for that link
[06:00] <jeisma> ardchoille the most recent one i'm guessing
[06:00] <kaushal> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0xf7fb6154 ***
[06:00] <shane634> Akuma_, which card is it?
[06:00] <kaushal> /var/lib/dpkg/info/stunnel4.postinst: line 45: 31360 Aborted                 $ADDUSER --system --disabled-password --disabled-login --home /var/run/stunnel4 --no-create-home --group $USER
[06:00] <shane634> jeisma, same what card?
[06:00] <Akuma_> shane634:  my biggest concern though is that when i try to open the graphical interface (System -> Administration -> Networking) i get the bug report tool
[06:01] <jeisma> shane634 i was trying to use wpc54g or whatever that one is and now im using wpc11
[06:01] <b00gz> Steve-O: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser
[06:01] <shane634> Akuma_,  we may be able to fix that
[06:01] <Pollywog> jeisma 'apt-get install linux-kernel-source-2.6.15-23-386'
[06:01] <ardchoille> jeisma: If yo have kernel 2.6.15-23-386, then you either are using an older Ubuntu release or you really need to update.
[06:02] <ctrl_x> any one here tell me
[06:02] <ardchoille> jeisma: The current kernel on Ubuntu Dapper is 2.6.15-28-386
[06:02] <jeisma> ardchoille thanks for that i'll update first
[06:02] <ctrl_x> can i install win98 over ubuntu
[06:02] <jeisma> ardchoille so do i just need to do software updates, andthat'll upgrade it?
[06:02] <Akuma_> shane634:  that'd be great - cause right now i'm contemplating reinstalling everything, and i'd rather avoid that..
[06:02] <shane634> ctrl_x, it is recommended to install windows first
[06:02] <Pollywog> jeisma are you installing a dual boot system?
[06:02] <Steve-O> I've read that page and all other Wikipedia pages about computers and nothing sinks in.  I should have a PhD in Wikipedia by nmow.
[06:02] <Gabz> ctrl_x: the problem is none here wants you to isntall windows :P
[06:03] <ardchoille> jeisma: I would suggest updating everything before installing software, unless you have a good reason not to
[06:03] <jeisma> Pollywog Well, I already have the dual boot system.
[06:03] <jeisma> Pollywog after updates, should i go about doing the same thing and replace the numbers into the apt-get install
[06:03] <Pollywog> jeisma: k then I don't have to tell you to install Windows first and then Linux :)
[06:03] <ctrl_x> So you guys means i have to install window first right
[06:03] <jeisma> Pollywog ha yeah, already done
[06:03] <Pollywog> ctrl_x: yes
[06:03] <ardchoille> Steve-O: If you are using the root account because your buddy told you to always use it, then you really need a new buddy ;)
[06:03] <Gabz> ctrl_x: do you want to dual boot ?
[06:03] <Sonic_13> does apache have to be installed with php?
[06:04] <Steve-O> I know nothing about this stuff.
[06:04] <jeisma> ardchoille does doing software updates, update the ubuntu system to dapper?
[06:04] <hole> is there anyone here who knows how to make windows programs under wine recognize the cdrom?
[06:04] <ctrl_x> Gabz, yes dual Boot
[06:04] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: It doesn't have to be, no, but you will need it if you are planning to serve php scripts.
[06:04] <Steve-O> What is wrong with that?  He told me just until he configures it or something.
[06:04] <Sonic_13> i'm not planning on doing that
[06:04] <shane634> ctrl_x, yes
[06:04] <ardchoille> jeisma: No, software updates simply updates the software in your current release
[06:05] <jeisma> ardchoille ok so how do i update my ubuntu?
[06:05] <shane634> Akuma_, hit me up on yahoo at shane634 we will see what we can do
[06:05] <Sonic_13> just basic html pages
[06:05] <Steve-O> He told me that I'm not supposed to do this, but he told me that it's the only way to do it until it's finished.
[06:05] <ardchoille> jeisma: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:05] <bwlang> Steve-O: it's generally considerd very bad form to use the root account for anything but system administration
[06:05] <Akuma_> shane634:  yahoo mail?
[06:06] <jeisma> Pollywog_ after i do a dist-upgrade, would i still need to install the kernel sources?
[06:06] <shane634> Akuma_, ymessenger
[06:06] <kaushal> Hi
[06:06] <kaushal> I have pasted it here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10316/
[06:06] <Sonic_13> is it possible to accidentally install apache twice?
[06:06] <ardchoille> Steve-O: The root account is disabled in Ubuntu, sounds like your buddy enabled it.. which is a bad idea to begin with.
[06:06] <shane634> Akuma_, if you have msn<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:06] <Steve-O> That's probably why nothing's working right.
[06:06] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Could be
[06:06] <Akuma_> shane634:  msn is better - i'll have to install game first
[06:06] <shane634> Akuma_, this place is crazy busy lol
[06:07] <Akuma_> shane634:  *gaim
[06:07] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: You'd have to go out of your way to do that.
[06:07] <Sonic_13> ok
[06:07] <shane634> Akuma_, no prob let me know when you are on
[06:07] <Steve-O> Why in Sam Hll's name would he tell me to use it for the time being?  Why couldn't I use the non superuser?
[06:07] <Klonoa> Can Ubuntu be installed through a network?
[06:07] <ardchoille> Steve-O: No offense, but maybe he doesn't quite know what he's doing?
[06:08] <Steve-O> I can't wait to tell him that
[06:08] <Klonoa> Say, if I install Ubuntu with one computer onto another through IEEE 1394, is that possible?
[06:08] <OldGeezer> !nboot
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <Gabz> ctrl_x: did you leave space on your hard drive to install windows ?
[06:09] <Sonic_13> sweet
[06:09] <Sonic_13> now how do I add files to the apache folder?
[06:09] <OldGeezer> Kolonoa yes you can do network installs
[06:09] <bwlang> Klonoa: i don't know about 1394... but you could do it with a crossover ethernet cable
[06:09] <Klonoa> Ok
[06:09] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: Add them to /var/www
[06:09] <Klonoa> Oh
[06:09] <ctrl_x> Gabz, No all 40 Gb dedicated to ubuntu
[06:09] <ubuntu> !iso