[03:09] <kestri> how do I access the other?
[03:09] <crdlb> kestri: install it
[03:09] <Pelo> !pl | ZeroA4
[03:09] <ubotu> ZeroA4: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[03:09] <crdlb> !info xchat | kestri
[03:09] <Xyc0> A2cO: do you know how to use terminal?
[03:09] <ubotu> kestri: xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[03:09] <KevinOman> Xyc0:  sudo dpkg -i *.deb is that right?
[03:09] <ZeroA4> wow
[03:09] <crdlb> !info xchat-gnome
[03:09] <ZeroA4> :)
[03:09] <ubotu> xchat-gnome: a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.16-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 305 kB, installed size 784 kB
[03:09] <kestri> i thought you said i have both installed
[03:09] <Pelo> opps wrong one, which is the one for portugese again ?
[03:09] <Xyc0> KevinOman: if you are in the directory, yea
[03:09] <A2cO> Xyc0: ehm...not at all
[03:09] <slestak> kppp allowed the setup i need, but im trying to use all gnome
[03:09] <crdlb> kestri: no you /can/ have both installed
[03:10] <ZeroA4> Pelo pt
[03:10] <slestak> i use a tehered cellphone for my net access out of the house.  Neither NetworkManager or gnome-ppp appear to allow custom pppd options to be entered.  am i going to have to use console to use wvdial or pon poff or os there anohter option in Ubunto?
[03:10] <Pelo> ah
[03:10] <InnatechAtHome> slestak: pppconfig?
[03:10] <crdlb> kestri: ie you don't have to uninstall xchat-gnome before installing xchat
[03:10] <Xyc0> !info terminal | A2cO
[03:10] <ubotu> a2co: Package terminal does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:10] <taime1> can someone tell me what im doing wrong here: http://pastehere.com/?dqkaod  this is the last part of the output from 'make'
[03:10] <kestri> oh. so is there any easy way in ubuntu to install the other?
[03:10] <bintut> orbin: maybe you mean, iwlist wlan0 scan ?
[03:11] <Xyc0> A2cO: bah, sorry
[03:11] <crdlb> kestri: yes, use synaptic
[03:11] <kestri> or is there a whole other irc client that more user friendly?
[03:11] <crdlb> the package is called xchat
[03:11] <Fezzler> What is this "frodo:/" command on Samba.org.  Does nothing on my command line
[03:11] <KevinOman> Xyc0: I don't think it will install cause its already installed, I just can't see the menu icons
[03:11] <InnatechAtHome> OH MY GOD DONT RUN THAT
[03:11] <crdlb> kestri: xchat-gnome is about as user-friendly as they get
[03:11] <slestak> InnatechAtHome: i tried that, was hoping for a graphical config.  I didnt config it right the forst time with pppconfig.  was just checking to see if i was missing an obvious better choice
[03:11] <InnatechAtHome> just kidding.
[03:11] <linux_kid> ZeroA4, sim era isso que eu tava dizendo pro cara... de todo modo no falei com vc
[03:11] <kestri> so regular xchat is more complicated?
[03:11] <KevinOman> kestri try gaim or pidgin
[03:12] <crdlb> and more powerful
[03:12] <linux_kid> ZeroA4, Eu sei, mim quero apenas os usurios compreend-lo
[03:12] <Xyc0> taime1: Why are you trying to compile Pidgin?
[03:12] <InnatechAtHome> slestak: yeah, I'm not seeing anything other than the ones you listed that's graphical.
[03:12] <crdlb> gaim is a terrible irc client
[03:12] <ZeroA4> linux_kid, no fale portugues aqui o pelo vai reclamar de vc tambem
[03:12] <Xyc0> A2cO: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:12] <ZeroA4> :)
[03:12] <slestak> maybe NetworkManager can get a nice plugin like the pptp vpn plugin, except maybe one that works, but thats another story
[03:12] <KevinOman> crdlb, have you trid pidgin
[03:12] <blind> I find that any multiple-protocol messengers are usually terrible IRC clients.
[03:12] <taime1> because you have to
[03:12] <crdlb> there's a difference?
[03:13] <InnatechAtHome> heh. Yeah.
[03:13] <Xyc0> A2cO: ahhh, sorry again https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:13] <KevinOman> shit works fine for me
[03:13] <orbin> bintut: same end result.  first one just tries all interfaces
[03:13] <wookieferret> I'm back.  Alright.  It is still not shutting off automatically.    Is there a way to disable the last portions of the splash screen on shutdown?
[03:13] <Xyc0> taime1: not really
[03:13] <blind> !ohmy | KevinOman
[03:13] <crdlb> !ohmy | KevinOman
[03:13] <ubotu> KevinOman: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:13] <KevinOman> ohmy
[03:13] <KevinOman> oh no
[03:13] <KevinOman> he said the poop word
[03:13] <slestak> what about bluetooth, in kubuntu it all worked, but neither bluez-gnome or gnome-bluetooth will allow me to pair to anything
[03:13] <taime1> Xyc0: well, that is what i understand from the website
[03:13] <InnatechAtHome> wookieferret: have you tried various cheatcodes, like disapling APM or APIC ?
[03:14] <ZeroA4> linux_kid, that phrase didnt sound right im portuguese... where are you from ?
[03:14] <new2ubun2> not sure what the etiquette/protocol is here... but i have a a driver problem
[03:14] <gluttony> what is rhythmbox python console used for?
[03:14] <slestak> wookieferret: that is an acpi problem i think
[03:14] <linux_kid> ZeroA4, H uma canaleta para o portugus, #ubuntu-pt
[03:14] <THJ> Is it possible to tell Screen to log output to a certain file?
[03:14] <ZeroA4> hehehe :)
[03:14] <linux_kid> ZeroA4, its an online converter, im all american sorry
[03:14] <Daddeo> has anyone here used mcnlive?
[03:14] <bintut> orbin: i'm actually trying to test my box running as an access point using madwifi... when i run the iwconfig command from itself, i got this result:  Link Quality=29/94  Signal level=-67 dBm  Noise level=-96 dBm
[03:14] <wookieferret> slestak: Yeah.  It seems like it.
[03:14] <blind> I'm looking for a stand-alone equalizer that can lower bass, because my subwoofer (even at low volumes) cranks out a lot of bass and bothers my uppstairs neighbor. Any suggestions?
[03:15] <Fezzler> Inn: frodo?
[03:15] <Fezzler> sudo frodo?
[03:15] <ZeroA4> linux_kid, thats ok... but it sounded very very funny
[03:15] <ZeroA4> :)
[03:15] <new2ubun2> anyone know how to install a driver for the creative audigy 2 zs pcmcia?
[03:15] <InnatechAtHome> wookieferret: yeah. Try passing the kernel acpi=off
[03:16] <gluttony> what is the rhythm box python console used for?
[03:16] <linux_kid> ZeroA4, when converting to english, your phrases were odd, too
[03:16] <slestak> wookieferret: i had a machine that did that, i never fixed it, gave it away :)
[03:16] <KevinOman> what directory would open office launchers be installed in
[03:16] <wookieferret> InnatechAtHome: I tried to add 'apm shutdown=1' to /etc/modules earlier as suggested by someone on the ubuntuforums from back when edgy first came out.   Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:16] <wookieferret> slestak: Yeah.  Well, that's what I'm trying to do, but I want it to work. :)  I play tech support for my grandma.
[03:16] <ZeroA4> linux_kid, the sad thing is... am not converting... im trying to remember my old english lessons
[03:17] <Fezzler>  From Samba.org: >>If swat is in your current operating system search path, it will be easy to  find it. You can ask what are the command-line options for swat as shown here: frodo:~ # swat -?
[03:17] <dabaR> KevinOman: /usr/bin likely. Try oowrite<tab>
[03:17] <slestak> wookieferret: is the machine old enought to use apm?  usually only one of apm or acpi is used
[03:17] <HostilePenguin> my neighbor beats his wife i just listen cause its funny
[03:17] <blind> Xyc0: yeah, but I'd like to be a good neighbor and not disturb him. My woofer really cranks out an obscene amount of bass, and I'm often self-concious about it.
[03:17] <orbin> KevinOman: use 'which'
[03:17] <dabaR> new2ubun2: are you sure you have to?
[03:17] <linux_kid> ZeroA4, you are doing VERY well just remembering classes
[03:17] <InnatechAtHome> wookieferret: yeah. Different chipsets and motherboards need different cheatcodes. The rabbit hole gets pretty deep. I'd try acpi=off , see if that helps with APM on.
[03:17] <RobHu> Could someone please help me? I need to be able to send Ctrl-H through a telnet session in xterm (running on Ion 3 under GDM), but I think it's being intercepted :( How can I send Ctrl-H through the telnet session?
[03:17] <kestri> ok I've installed xchat. now how can i get the list of users in the room
[03:17] <Xyc0> blind: alsamixer?
[03:17] <kestri> ?
[03:17] <HostilePenguin> he tells her every time you better leave or im gonna beat your ass
[03:17] <HostilePenguin> she dosent
[03:17] <HostilePenguin> lmao
[03:18] <ZeroA4> linux_kid, :)
[03:18] <blind> Xyc0: that just lowers the volume, afaik how to use it.
[03:18] <gluttony> can i set up my remote connect options so that i dont need to confirm a connection from my computer?
[03:18] <Fezzler> I've worn out my welcome on samba, swat?
[03:18] <Xyc0> blind: there is a base option that you can lower
[03:18] <ZeroA4> kestri, it should be there >>>>>
[03:18] <Xyc0> blind: bass
[03:18] <blind> Xyc0: I didn't know that, I will take a look.
[03:18] <Daddeo> Does anyone know of a livecd distro that supports ntfs r+w or does anyone have any experience with mcnlive?
[03:18] <ZeroA4> kestri, peraphs it is hiden ?
[03:19] <CCmonster> question, do you have to have Real player installed to play .RM and .RA files?
[03:19] <luis> Buenas noches
[03:19] <adavis2> anyone experience their audio devices disappearing after reboot?
[03:19] <HostilePenguin> adavis lspci
[03:19] <blind> Xyc0: I don't see it. Where is it/How do I get to it?
[03:19] <CCmonster> i have Xine, VLC, Helix, Kaffiene etc, .....im just curious maybe what im missing
[03:19] <wookieferret> slestak: I guess it isn't old enough.  It is using an Athlon XP 1800.    This board is so weird, you have to have the network card in a certain slot so that the CD-ROM drive doesn't fail to be recognized.
[03:19] <linux_kid> adavis2, did you get a new kernel
[03:19] <Novatin> Sabe alguien de algn soft que permita imprimir varias fotos en Din A4 ?
[03:19] <Xyc0> blind: open terminal and type alsamixer
[03:19] <Novatin> Sorry
[03:19] <Novatin> Sorry
[03:19] <ZeroA4> !es | luis
[03:19] <blind> im there.
[03:19] <ubotu> luis: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:19] <ZeroA4> :)
[03:19] <slestak> wookieferret: mine that did that was an axp1800, with an asus board.
[03:19] <gluttony> can i set up my remote connect options so that i dont need to confirm a connection from my computer?
[03:19] <kestri> your right
[03:20] <digital_k> CCmonster: I believe realplayer is the only thing you can use to play streaming rm files. I may be wrong.
[03:20] <wookieferret> slestak: Asus A7S333 is what this is.  Sis chipset.
[03:20] <kestri> thanks ZeroA4
[03:20] <slestak> wookieferret: yup
[03:20] <ZeroA4> !pt | Novatin,
[03:20] <ubotu> Novatin,: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:20] <Xyc0> gluttony: that is horridly unsecure
[03:20] <InnatechAtHome> wookieferret: I'd definitely try disabling ACPI on a machine of that vintage. My old XP1800 on a gigabyte MB is very finicky too.
[03:20] <CCmonster> whats the apt-get name for it?
[03:20] <slestak> wookieferret: mine wasnt that, i think it was a7-k266 or sth like that
[03:20] <HostilePenguin> acpi =off
[03:20] <adavis2> linux_kid: no, i shutdown the laptop and brought it home from work....
[03:20] <digital_k> realplayer
[03:20] <gluttony> well, how am i supposed to confirm a connection when im not at home?
[03:20] <dabaR> Novatin: are you asking for a software that allows printing of photos in a4 format?
[03:20] <kestri> is there a less busy english ubuntu room?
[03:20] <Xyc0> digital_k VLC doesnt?
[03:20] <digital_k> but you need all the repositories available
[03:20] <digital_k> to install it
[03:20] <ZeroA4> dabaR, yes he is
[03:21] <slestak> kestri: kubuntu is a little less crowded
[03:21] <Xyc0> gluttony: are you using remote desktop?
[03:21] <digital_k> Xtc0: I dont use vlc, so I dont know. :)
[03:21] <blind> gluttony: there's an option in the gui dialog to shut that off... should be in system > preferences > remote desktop or system > administration > remote desktop
[03:21] <Xyc0> CCmonster: I am pretty sure VLC plays rm files
[03:21] <digital_k> Xyc0*
[03:21] <KevinOman> installing kde on ubuntu broke my openoffice installation
[03:21] <HostilePenguin> adavis2
[03:21] <CCmonster> it wont stream them :(
[03:21] <wookieferret> I'll be back.  Going to try the acpi tweaks.
[03:21] <adavis2> linux_kid: its only showing the modem device... and doesn list any other now.   Is there a way to reinstall these drivers/devices?
[03:22] <linux_kid> adavis2, something else must have happened (did the sound work out of box?)
[03:22] <Xyc0> CCmonster: you need to open a URL to do streaming
you mean the remote desktop in system?
[03:22] <wir3> can someone give me ubuntu effects link?
[03:22] <CCmonster> when i put the link into VLC
[03:22] <blind> !beryl | wir3
[03:22] <CCmonster> no bueno
[03:22] <ubotu> wir3: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:22] <KevinOman> wir3, there is compix as well
[03:22] <Fezzler> Well, my fun is samba-lic of why Linux can be hard for newbies
[03:22] <Inaxio> How do you add new templates for the create document thingy
[03:22] <KevinOman> compiz sorry
[03:23] <digital_k> CComonster: you can install mozilla-helix-player
[03:23] <adavis2> linux_kid: i had to tell it to use the other drivers, by default it was set to modem.
[03:23] <dabaR> Fezzler: so can windows active directory...
[03:23] <HostilePenguin> they all suck with fglrx so dont bother if you have ati
[03:23] <KevinOman> lol
[03:23] <digital_k> that installs the mozilla plugin for streaming media
[03:23] <digital_k> i wasnt sure that is why i said earlier, I might be wrong.
[03:23] <ZeroA4> Fezzler, samba is really not much newbie friendly
[03:23] <Xyc0> gluttony: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RemoteAccess?highlight=%28remote%29
[03:23] <Fezzler> Zero: Tell me about it.
 i dont understand you ?ion
[03:24] <dabaR> Setting up samba is not a newbie task either. Plus it works out the box for a simple share.
[03:24] <blind> Xyc0: where in alsamixer is the option for bass?
[03:24] <adavis2> HostilePenguin: yes?
[03:24] <Fezzler> Zero: I may just go with FTP and do manual backups
[03:24] <Xyc0> blind: right next to the master volume and treb
[03:24] <Xyc0> blind: do you know how to use terminal?
[03:24] <HostilePenguin> wondering what was going on with your sound
[03:24] <KevinOman> Just confirming , installing kubuntu desktop on ubuntu will break your openoffice.org install, im back up and running now
[03:24] <ZeroA4> Fezzler, get the no frils server
[03:24] <linux_kid> adavis2, feisty?
[03:24] <blind> Xyc0: yes, i know how to use terminal, and i have alsamixer open, but i don't have those options..
[03:24] <adavis2> yes fiesty
[03:24] <ZeroA4> Fezzler, wait i will paste in pvt
[03:24] <InnatechAtHome> fezzler: check out unison or rsync for backups if that's what you need.
[03:25] <HostilePenguin> what sound card?
[03:25] <Xyc0> Xyc0: what soundcard are you using?
[03:25] <adavis2> HostilePenguin: sony laptop ac97 if i looked it up correctly
[03:25] <HostilePenguin> what is laptop model number
[03:25] <blind> Xyc0: I'll assume that was for me and not yourself. Intel ICH5
[03:25] <jlulian38> I got MySQL based PHP sessions working
[03:26] <adavis2> HostilePenguin: pcg-fxa47
[03:26] <Fezzler> Inna: With union or rsync I can be sitting at my iMac G5 in frog room and backup to Ubuntu box in home office?
[03:26] <Xyc0> blind: I usually don't ask myself questions on IRC
[03:26] <dabaR> jlulian38: cool
[03:26] <blind> Xyc0: Keyword is 'usually' ? :P
[03:26] <RobHu> No one got any idea how to send Ctrl-H then?
[03:26] <InnatechAtHome> fezzler: as long as they have network connectivity. ;)
[03:26] <Xyc0> lol
[03:27] <Fezzler> Inna:  Funny.  Like after I get samba installed?
[03:27] <blind> RobHu: To send CTRL+H... hold ctrl.. and hit h..
[03:27] <jlulian38> Session ID's are 32 charecters long! Not 26! *headbashes
[03:27] <RobHu> blind: Well, that doesn't work
[03:27] <Fezzler> Inna: How Joseph Heller of you
[03:27] <blind> RobHu: in what program?
[03:27] <InnatechAtHome> Fezzler: They don't need samba. They connect over IP.
[03:27] <webito> how can I make XP to boot as default OS
[03:27] <webito> ?
[03:27] <Mangix> can someone tell me where GRUB is located?
[03:27] <wir3> Can anyone help me setup beryl. i have ATI  RV370 5B60 Radeon X300
[03:27] <dpmccoy> webito, just change it's location in the GRUB menu
[03:27] <HostilePenguin> lspci says no sound devices?
[03:27] <Fezzler> Inna:  Can I mount/map a HD using ip?
[03:28] <blind> !beryl | wir3
[03:28] <ubotu> wir3: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:28] <strabes> Mangix: config files are in /boot/grub
[03:28] <Fezzler> Beryl is hot!
[03:28] <RobHu> blind: I'm telnetted to a serial console on a coloed box. The RocketRaid loads up and says "press <ctrl><h> for configuration" but ctrl-h does nothing and it continues booting. Other keys (e.g. delete for bios config) do work
[03:28] <alves_rn> hello everyone
[03:28] <Xyc0> blind: well, ALSA should be installed and working, so I don't know why you don't have the bass option.  What options do you have?
[03:28] <HostilePenguin> beryl need xgl instead of aglix
[03:28] <smo> webito: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:28] <alves_rn> is anyone using ati proprietary drivers?
[03:28] <HostilePenguin> fglrx?
[03:28] <Fezzler> Zero: No frills server?
[03:28] <ojk007> can someone help me, my gnome session is buggerd it throws:
[03:28] <alves_rn> yes
[03:28] <ojk007> Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "toggle_shaded"
[03:28] <smo> i use it alves_rn
[03:29] <smo> lastests 8.36.5
[03:29] <adavis2> lspci?
[03:29] <temp_user_nam1> i'm really scared to click "install," i'm at step 7of7 in the install and there's a message that says: "WARNING: This will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as
[03:29] <temp_user_nam1> well as on the partitions that are going to be formatted." I don't want to lose my precious data. I selected guided/repartition.
[03:29] <blind> Xyc0: Master, Master M, Master S, headphones, PCM, Surround, Center, LFE, Line.. all the standard options, just no bass/treble
[03:29] <HostilePenguin> yes lspci
[03:29] <HostilePenguin> in terminal
[03:29] <ubuntu-rocks> where can i find the apache docs for fiesty fawn?
[03:29] <alves_rn> do you have tv output?
[03:29] <dpmccoy> alves_rn: I used to use fglrx, but it wouldn't work with AIGLX and Beryl
[03:29] <ZeroA4> Fezzler, yes
[03:29] <Xyc0> are there MM options where there should be bars?
[03:29] <dpmccoy> I switched to an Nvidia card instead
[03:29] <alves_rn> yes i know
[03:29] <smo> works with xgl/fglrx
[03:29] <temp_user_nam1> will i lose the files on my windows partition? or should i have selected continuous?
[03:29] <RobHu> blind: Any other ideas?
[03:29] <strabes> dpmccoy: good decision!
[03:29] <blind> Xyc0: MM?
[03:29] <InnatechAtHome> Fezzler: I'm confusing you, I fear. What I'm saying is that Unison and Rsync are their own protocols connecting directly over the network.  You can use Rsync and Unison for backing up from Win/Mac to Linux and vice versa but not to map drives on a Windows box.
[03:29] <Xyc0> blind: sorry that was to you [mm]
[03:29] <alves_rn> i just want output to tv
[03:30] <blind> RobHu: what are you using to telnet? the standard 'telnet' ?
[03:30] <Xyc0> blind: they are just text
[03:30] <HostilePenguin> adavis2 you do it yet?
[03:30] <smo> don t know...
[03:30] <adavis2> 00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[03:30] <adavis2> 00:07.6 Communication controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 30)
[03:30] <alves_rn> which are the options?
[03:30] <dpmccoy> strabes: I bought an Nvidia 7600 card, and it works like a charm; picked it up for around $150 off of pricewatch
[03:30] <Fezzler> Zero: You were going to say something in pvt?
[03:30] <ZeroA4> Fezzler, i paste the most important parts to your pvt
[03:30] <HostilePenguin> did you install alsa?
[03:30] <alves_rn> i put this:Option          "DesktopSetup"  "clone"
[03:30] <alves_rn>         Option          "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
[03:30] <Fezzler> Inna:  That gets me half way there.
[03:30] <blind> Xyc0: I don't see an [mm]  anywhere.
[03:31] <adavis2> HostilePenguin: not that i aware of
[03:31] <InnatechAtHome> Fezzler: yeah, I kinda figured.
[03:31] <Fezzler> Inna: But I've invested too much to turn back on samba now!
[03:31] <ZeroA4> Can i paste seven lines here?
[03:31] <h3ath> will i lose the files on my windows partition? or should i have selected continuous? that's a very scary warning i received.
[03:31] <alves_rn> does not work
[03:31] <Fezzler> Inna:  It's the challenge du jur
[03:31] <Xyc0> blind: sorry, I wish I was better without visuals
[03:32] <RobHu> blind: Yes
[03:32] <InnatechAtHome> Fezzler: Really, you need either Samba or NFS to do what you want to do--and really, you want Samba. NFS would be clunky, and maybe impossible on XP Home.
[03:32] <SonsOfAtreus> ZeroA4, us http://pastebin.org
[03:32] <RobHu> blind: Should I use something else?
[03:32] <dabaR> hm.... 20:30 < blind> Xyc0: I don't see an [mm]  anywhere.
[03:32] <SonsOfAtreus> use
[03:32] <InnatechAtHome> Fezzler: make that Vista home.
[03:32] <Xyc0> blind: if you press M while those options are highlighted, they will become unmuted and you can control them
[03:32] <Fezzler> Inna: Then samba or death!
[03:32] <adavis2> HostilePenguin: should i install it?
[03:32] <SonsOfAtreus> ZeroA4, or http://pastebin.ca
[03:32] <HostilePenguin> hold on
[03:32] <adavis2> k
[03:32] <ZeroA4> Fezzler, didnt you receinved anything on pvt?
[03:32] <blind> Xyc0: none of my options are muted.
[03:32] <HostilePenguin> has sound worked before?
[03:33] <adavis2> yes
[03:33] <onicrom> anyeone know what the name of the package for gd,jpeg or png libs is?
[03:33] <Xyc0> blind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Alsa.png
[03:33] <adavis2> question... after the lspci, i switched my wireless card into the bottom pci slot, think that may be the deal?
[03:33] <HostilePenguin> try alsamixer in terminal
[03:33] <Fezzler> Zero: Don't see another window open
[03:33] <adavis2> err, not after the lspci.. but after you mentioned pci... i rememberd doing taht
[03:33] <HostilePenguin> makw sure mm isnt checked
[03:33] <onicrom> or how to search for a package?
[03:33] <InnatechAtHome> Fezzler: check your console window.
[03:33] <ZeroA4> Fezzler, http://pastebin.ca/496090
[03:33] <Fezzler> Wouldn't a pvt open another gaim window
[03:34] <InnatechAtHome> Oh, gaim. Yeah, I think so.
[03:34] <ZeroA4> Fezzler, no... it would open a new tab
[03:34] <adavis2>  function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:34] <michup> hi, ive question about installation ubuntu edgy, im using installation liveCD, its booting correctly but it has pure performance- i mean it works v slow (slow reaction) after i click install icon it hanged
[03:34] <Pelo> onicrom,   menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[03:34] <ZeroA4> a least my gaim opens tabs not windows
[03:34] <abg> !xgl
[03:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:34] <SonsOfAtreus> pelo,  I'll go with meneleas tonight
[03:34] <onicrom> Pelo, no gui
[03:34] <michup> its celeron 700MHz with 128MB RAM and NVIDIA TNT
[03:35] <Pelo> michup,  what is your system like
[03:35] <Fezzler> Zero -got it
[03:35] <Xyc0> blind: there is a gui in Menu > System > Preferences to adjust sound, but you need to select the correct sound device and turn on the bass/treb options
[03:35] <blind> Xyc0: http://blindx.net/alsamixer.png
[03:35] <ZeroA4> michelp, 128MB ram is tight for Ubuntu...
[03:35] <Pelo> SonsOfAtreus, I was just trying to figure out the reference, it's been a while since I've read Homer, I wasn'T sure anymore
[03:35] <Xyc0> blind: sorry I can't help more
[03:35] <blind> Xyc0: alright. well thanks for your help.
[03:36] <michup> and my question is first am i able to run it on this system and second is it possible to install it in shell? manually
[03:36] <HostilePenguin> try alsa-conf
[03:36] <InnatechAtHome> michelp you might try puppy linux
[03:36] <HostilePenguin> sudo
[03:36] <Xyc0> InnatechAtHome: DamnSmallLinux ftw
[03:36] <michup> cose i think low performance may cause not enough memory to run system from boot CD
[03:36] <InnatechAtHome> Xcy0 I'd agree. Puppy is a little frendlier, tho.
[03:37] <Pelo> michup,  consider xubuntu , it's for older or smaller machines
[03:37] <x0qa> anyone recommend some good backup software?
[03:37] <HostilePenguin> i like puppy so far
[03:37] <michup> whats Puppy?
[03:37] <ZeroA4> michelp, other distro
[03:37] <InnatechAtHome> A lighter-weight distribution.
[03:37] <shawn34> Is it possible to create an iso from a directory of files without actually having the files on a cd?
[03:37] <RobHu> blind: ?
[03:37] <GaiaX11_> x0qa: sbackup
[03:37] <InnatechAtHome> shawn34 yes, it is.
[03:37] <HostilePenguin> pupps screams on my 600 celeron 64m of ram
[03:37] <adavis2> HostilePenguin: cmd not found... i did sudo alsa-conf
[03:37] <Pelo> shawn34,  yes   mkiso
[03:37] <shawn34> Pelo, thanks!
[03:37] <shawn34> InnatechAtHome, thanks!
[03:38] <michup> and xubuntu what kind of window menager is using XFCE?
[03:38] <InnatechAtHome> michup yes XFCE
[03:38] <blind> RobHu: sorry, was gonna type to you, but got wrapped up in my own problem. im not really familiar with telnet
[03:38] <Pelo> michup,   www.xubuntu.com  you'll get all the info
[03:38] <InnatechAtHome> I use it on the servers I set up that clients want to self-admin.
[03:39] <adavis2> i going to put my wifi card back in the other pci slot (hoping this fixes a possible conflict)
[03:39] <HostilePenguin> alsaconf
[03:39] <InnatechAtHome> XFCE over 6.06, that is.
[03:39] <adavis2> not found either
[03:39] <RobHu> I think I'm doomed. No one has any idea :(
[03:39] <michup> this system is been configuring for ppl with no informatition knowledge so i though ubuntu fits with its gnome session i think XFCE may be a little... too light for ordinary ppl
[03:39] <Pelo> RobHu,  restate your problem please
[03:40] <michup> to be more specific windows like users...
[03:40] <Josua> Hi, I have a little problem, I have a PC connect to wifi router and internet works, but I want to use another laptop to connect to that PC to get network too, so I have, ath1 internet, eth0 same pc connect to switch, a laptop connect to the same switch, what's the way to get internet using a laptop?
[03:40] <Pelo> michup, it's pretty interesign actualy, have a look at the screenshots
[03:40] <juliosr> Is there a way to remove every package that wasn't in the original "Ubuntu-Desktop" installation?
[03:41] <RobHu> Pelo: I need to be able to send Ctrl-H through a telnet session in xterm (running on Ion 3 under GDM), but I think it's being intercepted :( How can I send Ctrl-H through the telnet session?
[03:41] <ZeroA4> michelp, i think XFCE can be configured to be very windows like at least on basic beravior
[03:41] <webito> how can I edit the  /boot/grub/menu.lst?  how can I change the location of win in the grub menu?
[03:41] <Pelo> juliosr,  one by one but there is no   reset command if that is what hyou are looking for
[03:41] <webito> do I ahve to edit those things when booting or inside ubuntu?
[03:41] <michup> Pelo: thx for link
[03:41] <shawn34> Pelo, i don't have that command 'mkiso' do i need to install something?
[03:41] <RobHu> Pelo: I'm telnetted to a console server connected to the serial port of a Tyan mobo. During bootup the SATA controller says: Press <ctrl><h> for bios, which is what I want but if I press ctrl-h nothing happens
[03:42] <Pelo> RobHu,  that is way over my head
[03:42] <Pelo> shawn34, hold on . let me check
[03:42] <shawn34> genisoimage?
[03:42] <michup> btw why ubuntu does not support shell scrpt-like installation?
[03:42] <RobHu> Pelo: OK, thanks
[03:42] <makuseru> basic hardware question here, what would be better a Pentium D or a Celeron D or a Pentium 4?
[03:43] <Pelo> RobHu,  check the forum or channels for telnet and xterm
[03:43] <InnatechAtHome> RobHu: you're on an Ubuntu box?
[03:43] <Pelo> shawn34,  mkisofs ,  you might have to install it
[03:43] <ZeroA4> juliosr, no but if the packages come from an extra repositorie... if you remove it from the list of repositories ths synaptic will filter its packages separeted in a local or obsolet filter
[03:43] <x0qa> can sbackup save my windows files?
[03:43] <shawn34> Pelo, there is no package by that name, just a transition package for genisoimage
[03:44] <RobHu> InnatechAtHome: Yeah
[03:44] <Pelo> shawn34,  man mkisofs , that's what you can use to make a iso file
[03:44] <InnatechAtHome> RobHu: running Xterm and command line telnet?
[03:45] <RobHu> InnatechAtHome: Yes
[03:45] <InnatechAtHome> RobHu: have you tried backspace?
[03:46] <RobHu> InnatechAtHome: Yes. That takes me to the mobo BIOS
[03:46] <webito> where can I input console commands in ubuntu?
[03:46] <musya> anybody here think that debian is a more stable development os?
[03:46] <Pelo> webito,   menu > applications > accessories > terminal
[03:47] <InnatechAtHome> RobHu: hrrm. Have you tried running telnet out of textmode, without starting an X session?
[03:47] <Pelo> musya,  do you realise this is a support channel for a noob oriented distro ?
[03:47] <webito> thanks
[03:47] <RobHu> InnatechAtHome: Yes :(
[03:47] <InnatechAtHome> RobHu: double-hrrm. :(
[03:48] <juliosr> What can I do if i see a typo in a manual?
[03:48] <RobHu> It may be the card checks for something happening that means its never going to work over the serial console
[03:48] <mIgUeL_sAn> hello guys... is there an emulator to run a windows program in linux?
[03:48] <RobHu> Like ctrl being depressed
[03:48] <orangefly> can anyone help with slow wireless with feisty....???....
[03:48] <Pelo> juliosr, email canonical
[03:48] <adavis> i got the sound working... since i moved the wireless card to the bottom slot it must have caused a conflict
[03:48] <Madpilot> juliosr, which manual?
[03:49] <ZeroA4> mIgUeL_sAn, yes... several of then... wine is one of them
[03:49] <InnatechAtHome> RobHu: Maybe, I'm reaching for dusty brain cells here, hiding waaay in back. Heh. Are you sure the receiving terminal is plain VT100?
[03:49] <musya> Pelo: so?
[03:49] <juliosr> Madpilot: It's the Spanish manual for the Clock
[03:49] <adavis> HostilePenguin?
[03:49] <mIgUeL_sAn> !wine
[03:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:49] <hammedhaaret> Hi.. got feisty on a laptop with bluetooth.. i think im able to turn it on.. but i haven't got a good program to connect devices with. anyone who knows a good one?
[03:50] <Madpilot> juliosr, try #ubuntu-es - they can probably point you toward the Spanish translation efforts
[03:50] <musya> Pelo: im sure there are developers here
[03:50] <RobHu> InnatechAtHome: I don't know how to check or answer you question.
[03:50] <Madpilot> juliosr, failing that, email the ubuntu-doc mailing list, someone there can probably help
[03:50] <mIgUeL_sAn> !cedega
[03:50] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[03:50] <Pelo> juliosr, I think you might want to check the gnome site for the translations forum and reprot it there
[03:50] <blackjackel> Hello, I have a problem... I accidentally installed an old ubuntu (hoarey hedgehog) and I want to update to feisty fawn, do I need to reinstall all over again?
[03:51] <InnatechAtHome> robhu: it seems like if nothing else you should be able to hit the telnet escape sequence and then command telnet to transmit whatever sequences you need.
[03:51] <shaba1> Hello folks can I make xchat tabbed
[03:51] <AaronMT> blackjackel, short answer no
[03:51] <RobHu> InnatechAtHome: How do I do that?
[03:51] <adavis> where HostilePenguin run of to?
[03:51] <InnatechAtHome> RobHu: just a sec.
[03:51] <Pelo> blackjackel,  yes you do ,  you can'T upgrade directly from hoary ot feisty
[03:51] <mIgUeL_sAn> ZeroA4: which is better wine or cedega?
[03:51] <AaronMT> apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:51] <blackjackel> AaronMT: could you please point me to a website or guide that would tell me how to update to feisty?
[03:52] <strabes> blackjackel: You should probably just install fresh. It would probably take less time anyway lol.
[03:52] <AaronMT> thats true
[03:52] <ZeroA4> mIgUeL_sAn, wine is free and open... cedega is free if you get from cvs and pay otherwise
[03:52] <Pelo> blackjackel, you cannot upgrade to feisty from hoary,  you are better off doing a frech install
[03:52] <AaronMT> fresh install is always better than an upgrade
[03:52] <strabes> indeed
[03:52] <shaba1> ok guys since know answer to that
[03:52] <SonsOfAtreus> blackjackel, dl the 7.04 version and install over the Hedgehog
[03:52] <shaba1> How do I install and rpm package
[03:52] <mIgUeL_sAn> ZeroA4: thanks dude
[03:52] <blackjackel> well crap
[03:52] <juliosr> Do they usually appreciate typo fixes? Bacause I feel kind of excessive mailing over one missing letter in an obscure manual
[03:53] <ZeroA4> mIgUeL_sAn, cedega has a focus in gaming... wien is more general use
[03:53] <blackjackel> well thanks all
[03:53] <Pelo> SonsOfAtreus,  be carefull with that statement , isntalling over will also replace the home folder if it is on the same partition
[03:53] <blackjackel> I got here because I followed these instructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28948.html
[03:53] <mIgUeL_sAn> oic i get it...
[03:54] <ubuntu-rocks> i want to install a desktop ubuntu, what setup do you guys recommend? i'm probably going to run it in vmware and i dont' want to give up my winxp box just yet
[03:54] <blind> shaba1: first, sudo apt-get install alien then sudo alien -d <rpm package name>  -- it will create a .deb that you can then sudo dpkg -i <debfile name>
[03:54] <SonsOfAtreus> Pelo, true, I was thought I read that he just installed Hedgehog
[03:54] <ZeroA4> mIgUeL_sAn, payware there are others options too... like crossoffice and win4lin
[03:54] <blackjackel> does that mean i need to replace hoary with feisty in the command line and replace those files?
[03:54] <blackjackel> command line = url
[03:54] <lucky_> I am looking for a Feisty compatible webcam. Anyone have one working that they recommend?
[03:54] <juliosr> ubuntu-rocks: What do you mean by "Setup"?
[03:54] <AaronMT> 1) Download fiesty 2) burn to cd 3) boot computer with feisty 4) isntall ubuntu
[03:55] <Pelo> SonsOfAtreus, so did I ,  but it's still a tricky statement
[03:55] <ubuntu> hey i need some seriouse help with grub
[03:55] <blind> lucky_: I use a Logitech QuickCam STX -- works great
[03:55] <ubuntu> it broke and im using the live cd to try to fix it
[03:55] <InnatechAtHome> RobHu: OK, here you go: http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_telnet.htm . The escape sequence should be CTL + ]  , then you can try the various SEND commands listed in the linked page and see if the controller responds.
[03:55] <blackjackel> AaronMT: I do not have a cd drive, I followed the instructions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28948.html
[03:55] <mIgUeL_sAn> !win4lin
[03:55] <ufoeraser> guys a good software like superkaramba?????
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win4lin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <RobHu> InnatechAtHome: Thank you
[03:55] <Pelo> ubuntu, what did you do ?
[03:55] <SonsOfAtreus> Pelo, yes, I can see where it is misleading
[03:56] <ubuntu> Pelo: i was trying to install qemu (virtual machine)
[03:56] <blind> ufoeraser: please be a little more concise
[03:56] <lucky_> blind: is that the communicate STX?
[03:56] <blind> lucky_: yessir.
[03:56] <InnatechAtHome> RobHu: you probably want to try the send break and send ec commands first.
[03:56] <ubuntu-rocks> juliosr, preferred config, like kde or gnome, v7.04 or v6.06, stuff like that.
[03:56] <blackjackel> 7.04 is the latest version right?
[03:56] <lucky_> blind: i have the Communicate not the STX model and i can't get it working for the life of me
[03:57] <ubuntu> Pelo: im actually using a kubuntu live cd right now and whenever i try to open something with kate through my konsol it says cannot start X server
[03:57] <Pelo> !grub > ubuntu  check pm for instrucitons, the first links is the one you need
[03:57] <ubuntu> Pelo sorry whats pm?
[03:57] <Pelo> !grub > ubuntu
[03:57] <blind> lucky_: hm. mine just worked out of the box... of course, i threw the box away, so im not sure if i have the STX, or was just comparing the two in the store.
[03:57] <Pelo> that one
[03:57] <ufoeraser> i want a software to se cpu speed hard disk free memory and other things....
[03:57] <blind> Literally just threw it away yesterday.
[03:57] <lucky_> blind: is it solid black?
[03:57] <Pelo> ubuntu,  private message window from ubotu
[03:57] <ubuntu> Pelo: i see :) thanks
[03:58] <blind> lucky_: yes, it's the solid black one, without that extra ring thing around the lens.
[03:58] <emss> ufoeraser: try gkrellm
[03:58] <Fezzler> Zero:  Inna:  Thanks.  Off to Samba.Org to do more studying of swat and no frills set up
[03:58] <Fezzler> l8er
[03:58] <lucky_> blind: sonofa...... thats the one i have
[03:58] <blind> lucky_: the only problem i have with it is that it CANNOT be plugged in while booting.
[03:58] <InnatechAtHome> fezzler good luck!
[03:58] <SonsOfAtreus> Pelo, I carry newb credentials also, but I don't have a pocket protector yet.
[03:58] <blackjackel> I need help in downloading a file directly (not displaying it in the browser window) the file is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/linux
[03:58] <lucky_> blind: it doesn't work if you boot with it plugged in?
[03:58] <Fezzler> Inna: I'll get it, I always do
[03:58] <blind> lucky_: i have to plug it in AFTER i boot otherwise it doesn't work
[03:59] <Pelo> SonsOfAtreus,  lol
[03:59] <juliosr> ubuntu-rocks: If you're not doing anything EXTREMELY critical that requires the best stability despite lack of newer features you should probably go with Feisty.
[03:59] <InnatechAtHome> Robhu: you might also try the slc check command, which will ask the remote telnet host what its special character settings are.
[03:59] <lucky_> blind: hmmmm i think i may break something if i restart and that works. lol, i spent days toying with that thing to get it working
[04:00] <lucky_> blind: gonna try it real quick. i'll let ya know
[04:00] <blind> lucky_: imagine my surprise when it worked, and i restarted and it didn't :P
[04:00] <blind> lucky_: good luck!
[04:00] <InnatechAtHome> FWIW, I'm still plenty happy with Edgy. Even Dapper, for that matter.
[04:01] <Pelo> blackgraz,   go back one page and right click the link and  save target
[04:02] <ubuntu> Pelo: thanks gonna restart now and see if it worked. Thanks for the help
[04:02] <yagami> How do i make the font-size of subtitles bigger in vlc media player
[04:03] <Pelo> yagami,  ask in #vlc
[04:03] <yagami> its kinda small when I use my TV to watch movies- obviously due to the smaller resolution-
[04:03] <yagami> umm...i have only myself to ask that in #vlc.
[04:03] <juliosr> ubuntu-rocks: As far as GNOME vs KDE, it's up to you. Some people say KDE is easier for begginers (probably because it's set up more like Windows by default). But If you can't pick, go with GNOME because it's the official Desktop so it's better supported
[04:03] <Pelo> yagami, it is possible that if the subs are burned on the fhe video you can't  change the size
[04:04] <abg> where is the file where i can add selectable screen resolutions by hand?
[04:04] <lucky_> blind: negative
[04:04] <Pelo> abg,   sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:05] <abg> pelo: alright, thanks
[04:05] <blind> lucky_: hm. i remember i downloaded some things prior to plugging in the webcam, but i don't remember what. have you checked teh forums?
[04:06] <lucky_> blind: so many times. i have installed the quickcam, gspca, and spca5xx drivers and still nothing
[04:06] <Hicksrulez> hi
[04:06] <Hicksrulez> quick question
[04:06] <blind> lucky_: I know I have the spca5xx drivers running.
[04:06] <Pelo> Hicksrulez,  shoot
[04:06] <Hicksrulez> i just upgraded to edgy
[04:07] <Hicksrulez> totem is not opening any of my avi files
[04:07] <Pelo> Hicksrulez,  what is sooooo 6 months ago
[04:07] <ufoeraser> excuse me but....how can i disinstall gkrellm????
[04:07] <blind> lucky_: what program are you trying to use the webcam in?
[04:07] <Pelo> !restricted | Hicksrulez
[04:07] <ubotu> Hicksrulez: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:07] <Pelo> ufoeraser,  sudo apt-get remove  packagename
[04:07] <InnatechAtHome> ufoeraser: apt-get remove yourunwantedthinghere
[04:07] <lucky_> blind: i have tried VLC, Ekiga, and xawtv
[04:08] <Hicksrulez> thanks a lot will check it out
[04:08] <blind> lucky_: of course, three programs im not familiar with. mind if i pm you?
[04:08] <lucky_> blind: please
[04:08] <juliosr> !KDE
[04:08] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[04:08] <juliosr> !ubuntu
[04:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:08] <Ravengirl> greetings - new to linux and running suse - how can i try out ubuntu?
[04:09] <ubuntu> !grub
[04:09] <bieb> Raven with the LiveCD
[04:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:09] <Pelo> juliosr,  try /msg ubotu !trigger instead
[04:09] <Pelo> ubuntu, didn'T work ?
[04:09] <bruenig> Ravengirl, get the desktop cd which is also a live cd, play around with it and install it if you like it
[04:09] <InnatechAtHome> ravengirl: download the Live CD, burn it and boot it or go to ubuntu.com and request a mailed disc.
[04:09] <ubuntu> Pelo: nope it gets stuck at grub loading screen "grub loading stage 1.5"
[04:09] <Ravengirl> okay thanks will try the live cd
[04:10] <narfs> Is anyone here using Ati Xpress 200M in Ubuntu 7.04?  I'm curious about your glxgears benchies...
[04:10] <InnatechAtHome> I jump for switchers. :PPPPPPFT.
[04:10] <Pelo> ubuntu, ok lets, review  where were you doing the setup (hd0,0) line to ?
[04:11] <bruenig> I come in and out
[04:11] <blind> lucky_: I PM'd you, did you get it?
[04:11] <ubuntu> Pelo: i did it in the terminal
[04:11] <Pelo> ubuntu,  I mean which didyou put for (hd?,?)
[04:12] <blind> lol bruenig
[04:12] <ubuntu> Pelo: let me check, i think it was hd0,1 but i better make sure
[04:12] <ubuntu> bruenig : i do lol
[04:13] <bennukem> mou
[04:13] <bennukem> y a des mecs encore debout ?
[04:13] <bruenig> !fr
[04:13] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:13] <ifiredmybrain> hello, i am having trouble booting the ubunt 7.04 Live CD on my computer i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21509/
[04:14] <ubuntu> Pelo yes it was hd0,1
[04:14] <OhRelien> oh ca parle aussi frnacais j'hallucine!!
[04:14] <bruenig> !fr | OhRelien
[04:14] <ubotu> OhRelien: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:14] <Hicksrulez> ok i got another question
[04:15] <Hicksrulez> trying to update to feisty fawn using gui
[04:15] <Pelo> ubuntu,  ok what is on the second partition on your first hdd ?
[04:15] <OhRelien> !fr | bruenig
[04:15] <ubotu> bruenig: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:15] <bruenig> !botabuse | OhRelien
[04:15] <ubotu> OhRelien: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:15] <Hicksrulez> but get error message Authentication failed check server
[04:15] <ubuntu> Pelo" kubuntu
[04:16] <ubuntu> Pelo: kubuntu\
[04:16] <Pelo> ubuntu, how many hdd do you have ?
[04:16] <OhRelien> that's ok man, i can talk english also but who care bout one line of french here?
[04:16] <bieb> <-- Is glad Pelo didnt ask him how many HDD's :D
[04:17] <Pelo> OhRelien, you'd be surprise , channel politics donT' get involved , just to with it
[04:17] <shaba1> thanks blind
[04:17] <foutrelis> <-- Rulez :)
[04:17] <ubuntu> Pelo: ive got 4 partitions... but i dont know what one of them is. I only use kubuntu and windows
[04:17] <Pelo> bieb,  how many ?
[04:17] <shaba1> Has anyone installed tightvnc under ubuntu?
[04:17] <Pelo> ubuntu,   not how many partitons,  how many hard disks do you have on that computer ?
[04:18] <bieb> 5 in this system, 4 in my rsnapshot server
[04:18] <Pelo> bieb, foutrelis    /me does something for actions
[04:18] <ubuntu> Pelo: just one
[04:18] <GAPeach> Hello. I am having a strange problem with GRUB and Windows XP Home Edition (32-bit). My computer is HP Pavilion m7640n Media Center PC. It has an Athlon 64 X2 5000+ running at 2.6 GHZ. The Hard Drive is 320 GB with the Windows XP partition being 250 GB (running NTFS) and the Ubuntu 7.04 (64-bit version) partition being 40 GB. The hard drive used to have a recovery partition which took up 20 GB, but it was formatted a while ago, so this pa
[04:18] <ubuntu> Pelo
[04:18] <danny3793> anyone know of a good HTML program like DreamWeaver?
[04:18] <foutrelis> Pelo: <-- us cooler :P
[04:18] <foutrelis> *is
[04:18] <sdf> whi what are the differencies between i386 and x86??
[04:19] <Pelo> ubuntu,  ok   I want you to do that same procedure again,  when you get to  the line that says  setup (hd0,0)  step 5 or 6,   use  setup (hd0)
[04:19] <sdf> when i want to download cd  ask me
[04:19] <danny3793> ive tried Bluefish, but its not as convienent as DreamWeaver, doesnt allow me to preview within the program..
[04:19] <sdf> between i386 and x86??
[04:19] <ubuntu> Pelo: ok I will thanks
[04:19] <sdf> what is this?
[04:19] <ubuntu> Pelo: hopefully next time i talk to you I wont be "ubuntu"
[04:19] <ifiredmybrain> is there someone here who would help me with a problem booting the buntu 7.04 live cd to install ubuntu on my computer, i am getting errors when i try to boot from the cd
[04:20] <GAPeach> ifiredmybrain: Try checking the CD for errors.
[04:20] <danny3793> ifiredmybrain: what kind of problems are you having
[04:20] <bieb> Pelo, I worked part time for a custom PC builder, so I have a collection of hardware.. LOL
[04:20] <SonsOfAtreus> I think it's....... i386 is intel 32 bit, x86 is 64 bit
[04:20] <Pelo> GAPeach,  you got cut off,  can you just state the problem without the specs
[04:20] <ifiredmybrain> GAPeach: when i do that i get the same problem
[04:20] <ionstorm> ifiredmybrain, thats really odd, did u try reburning the disk, id redownload and reburn
[04:20] <Pelo> bieb,  nice
[04:20] <OhRelien> Hello everybody
[04:20] <ifiredmybrain> danny3793: i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21509/
[04:21] <foutrelis> SonsOfAtreus: Not actually. x86 stands for i386,i686,etc :)
[04:21] <bieb> Pelo, I will be building a MythTV box sometime soon
[04:21] <GAPeach> Pelo: Whenever I try to boot Windows XP SP2, it loads fine and there are no GRUB error messages, but it never gets past the message "Starting up...". It doesn't even display the Windows XP logo.
[04:22] <sdf> sonsofatreus  i downloaded cd for x86 and my processor is i386  can i use this cd??
[04:22] <Pelo> GAPeach, ok so you never actualy get to use windows ?
[04:22] <foutrelis> sdf: Sure you can :)
[04:22] <sdf> hehe
[04:22] <GAPeach> Pelo: Yeah.
[04:22] <ubuntu> Pelo: when I type setup (hd0) I get "cannot mount selected partition"
[04:22] <sdf> foutrelis really?
[04:22] <bieb> Peach.. that is a good problem.. LOL
[04:22] <danny3793> ifiredmybrain: it seems a few others have experienced this problem also, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/75135 is the link to the bug report they filed, its the same exact error as you are recieving
[04:23] <sdf> foutrelis be serious
[04:23] <foutrelis> sdf: x86 means i386,i486,i686 :)
[04:23] <Wembley> hello :)
[04:23] <ifiredmybrain> ok thanks danny3793 i will go look at that
[04:23] <ubuntu> Pelo : when i do fdisk -l  it doesnt have hd it has sd
[04:23] <Wembley> New ubuntu user here
[04:23] <sdf> hehe
[04:23] <Pelo> GAPeach,  seems simple enough to fix,    can you please  open up gparted and take a screenshot of your hdd so I can see what is what ?  upload it to imageshack or something
[04:23] <arkanabar> I seem to have lost gksu -- none of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:23] <danny3793> ifiredmybrain: are you using an Intel Core Duo?
[04:23] <foutrelis> sdf: I'm serious. :(
[04:23] <Pelo> ubuntu,  different naming system , donT' worry about it
[04:23] <sdf> foutrelis thanx
[04:23] <dmb> hey, any of you know if dell is selling machines with ubuntu on them yet?
[04:23] <Wembley> anyone here know anything about Radeon 330 cards?
[04:23] <ubuntu> Pelo:so should i try sd0 ?
[04:23] <foutrelis> sdf: you're welcome.
[04:23] <Pelo> wewemb welcome to the madhouse
[04:24] <Wembley> Pelo: thanks
[04:24] <shaba1> anyone know where dpgk puts deb files
[04:24] <danny3793> anyone know of a good HTML editor thats like DreamWeaver? i want to be able to preview within the program :P
[04:24] <narfs> Is anyone here using Ati Radeon Xpress 200M in Ubuntu 7.04?  I'm curious about your glxgears benchies...
[04:24] <smo> /var/cache/apt/archives shaba1
[04:24] <wastrel> glxgears isn't a benchmark
[04:24] <danny3793> i have tried BlueFish, but you have to save, then view the file in an internet browser
[04:24] <bieb> Danny, if you already own DW, then wine and DW
[04:24] <Pelo> ubuntu,   sda  =  hd0   sda1 = hd0,0
[04:24] <smo> apt-get clean to remove it all
[04:24] <arkanabar> danny3793 -- I just saw that, let me check again.
[04:24] <narfs> wastrel: regardless..
[04:24] <Wembley> I can't get glx to render in hardware with either the ati or the radeon drivers
[04:24] <shaba1> becasue I am trying a sudo dpkg ~/Desktop/tightvnc.1.3.6.deb
[04:25] <danny3793> bieb: i do have dreamweaver installed with wine, but it likes crashing, so id rather get something native, if there is anything :P
[04:25] <ubuntu> Pelo : I see, so what should i do i keep geting error when i try setup (hd0)
[04:25] <bieb> Danny.. I see
[04:25] <Pelo> Wembley,  if you are using feisty  look in  menu > system > admin > restricted driver
[04:25] <GAPeach> Pelo: Is Photobucket okay?
[04:25] <smo> dpkg -r tightvnc
[04:25] <smo> that  all
[04:25] <shaba1> and its giving me a Cannot access archive: No such file or directory eror
[04:25] <rpdillon> danny, its not great, but you could look at nvu
[04:25] <Wembley> Pelo: my restricted drivers are enabled
[04:25] <bieb> GAPeach.. where in GA are you?
[04:25] <narfs> *edited* Is anyone here using Ati Radeon Xpress 200M in Ubuntu 7.04?  I'm curious about your glxgears 'framerate values'...
[04:25] <Wembley> Pelo: and yes I am using feisty :)
[04:25] <narfs> is that better wastrel?
[04:25] <Pelo> ubuntu,  you need to reset grub to read stabe 1 on the boot partition which is (hd0) , hence the grub setup (hdO)
[04:25] <danny3793> anything that lets me work on HTML with a preview option built in is perfect :P, thanks i will check that out rpdillon :D
[04:26] <rpdillon> np =)
[04:26] <webito> I cannot create a copy of /boot/grub/menu.lst   Permission denied... how can I log in as administrator?
[04:26] <ifiredmybrain> danny3793: sorry was reading that page yes i am using a intel core 2 duo
[04:26] <foutrelis> !sudo | webito
[04:26] <ubotu> webito: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:26] <smo> use sudo webito
[04:26] <Andruk> i installed a new hard drive on my machine and it is not being recognized by feisty.  is there anything i can do to automatically scan for new drives and update fstab or mtab?
[04:26] <Pelo> Wembley, ok that is as far as I can take you' you'll have to ask periodicaly until someone can help or check in the forum for information
[04:26] <foutrelis> webito: And gksudo for gedit and other GUI apps
[04:26] <Pelo> webito, sudo
[04:26] <webito> thanks!
[04:27] <ubuntu> Pelo : Should i reinstall grub
[04:27] <danny3793> ifiredmybrain: it is most likely a hardware issue, which may be hard as heck to target, so you might be stuck with what you have now :(
[04:27] <Andruk> !ubotu
[04:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:27] <Wembley> pelo: I will look in the forum - what is the address?
[04:27] <GAPeach> bieb: Metro Atlanta.
[04:27] <Pelo> ubuntu, that would be a good idea
[04:27] <Pelo> Wembley, www.ubuntuforums.com
[04:27] <ifiredmybrain> danny3793 you mean stuck with the os i have now
[04:27] <bieb> GAPeach, I am in Snellville
[04:27] <Wembley> Pelo: thanks
[04:27] <ifiredmybrain> which is none
[04:27] <SonsOfAtreus> GAPeach, me also
[04:27] <danny3793> ifiredmybrain: yep, ohh, no OS? ouch lol...
[04:27] <ubuntu> Pelo : k ill follow the how-to guide at the bottom
[04:28] <bieb> Sons.. you are in the ATL also?
[04:28] <Pelo> ubuntu,  best of luck
[04:28] <SonsOfAtreus> I'm in May-retta
[04:28] <ifiredmybrain> danny3793: just built the computer today
[04:28] <narfs> Anyways.. I seem to be getting a sliver of the same fps values in 7.04 with the latest ati driver than I did in 5.10 with an older ati driver.. just wondering if it was an issue with my machine or a known problem with the latest ati driver (and/or ubuntu 7.04).
[04:28] <bieb> Sons and GAPeach.. you members of ALE?
[04:28] <Pelo> SonsOfAtreus,  can you drive over to GAPeach  and fix his grub ?
[04:28] <bieb> lol
[04:29] <SonsOfAtreus> pelo, I can't cook a meal worth puke
[04:29] <danny3793> ifiredmybrain: my friend has a core 2 duo i believe and he had no problems installing feisty, so it must be something with the way intels core duo chips handle the info its fed..
[04:29] <SonsOfAtreus> they wouldn't like it
[04:29] <SonsOfAtreus> I can use a microwave
[04:29] <Pelo> SonsOfAtreus, nice one
[04:29] <SonsOfAtreus> that's all
[04:29] <SonsOfAtreus> :P
[04:29] <SonsOfAtreus> hardy ahr
[04:29] <SonsOfAtreus> har that is
[04:29] <ubuntu-rocks> does apt-get command have an option to force it to download a package instead of prompting for the feisty fawn cd?
[04:29] <bieb> that means they can have Popcorn
[04:29] <GAPeach> bieb,SonsOfAtreus: I'm in Mcdonough.
[04:29] <Pelo> GAPeach,  how are we comming along with that screenshot ?
[04:29] <ifiredmybrain> danny3793: i dunno, i guess i'm gonna prolly end up having to use a different distro, or worst case windows
[04:29] <danny3793> rpdillon: it seems nvu is not available through package manager :( lol
[04:29] <GAPeach> Pelo: Should be up soon.
[04:30] <arkanabar> I can't use gksu any more:  "(gedit:5372): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:30] <arkanabar> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed."
[04:30] <SonsOfAtreus> GAPeach, psh, that's not metro......
[04:30] <bieb> Well.. Macon is almost metro Atl
[04:30] <danny3793> ifriedmybrain: sounds that way man, hopefully they fix it soon :P
[04:30] <bieb> lol
[04:30] <foutrelis> aubadde: ewww :(
[04:30] <Pelo> SonsOfAtreus, GAPeach bieb   #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:31] <ifiredmybrain> danny3793: yea thanks for the help, i'll be off so i can devote my bandwidth to downloading another iso
[04:31] <GAPeach> Pelo: My bad.
[04:31] <Pelo> GAPeach, no problem it was just getting a bit busy for banter
[04:31] <narfs> actually I'm using Ubuntu Studio with the lowlatency kernel.. maybe this has something to do with the graphics performance?
[04:31] <flavioribeiro> hi all, how can i receive a dial-up connection to my pc?
[04:31] <SonsOfAtreus> pelo, sorry, bro
[04:32] <bieb> sorry
[04:32] <bieb> :(
[04:32] <flavioribeiro> like a friend calls to my house phone number and my pc receives and connect to a ethernet?
[04:32] <knix_> what can I use to be able to watch a powerpoint from a dvd on a tv?  will k3b do it?
[04:32] <Pelo> flavioribeiro, what do you mean  "receive" dial-up  you want for the computer to pick up when the phone rings ?
[04:33] <Pelo> knix,  you'll need to use  Openoffice.org impress
[04:33] <knix_> Pelo, ty a bunch
[04:33] <Pelo> np
[04:33] <flavioribeiro> Pelo actually i need to estabilish a dial up connection between my pc and my friend's pc.. using the phone line
[04:33] <luckyaba> blind: are you getting my pm's?
[04:33] <Pelo> knix,  unless you are telling me that the presentation was encoded as a dvd then you just watch it like a regular dvd
[04:34] <BlindSide> hey guys
[04:34] <blind> luckyaba: i am not.
[04:34] <flavioribeiro> Pelo, my teacher shows me how to do it at ruindows and its very simple.. but now i need to make it in linux to have a good score :)
[04:34] <Andruk> i installed a new hard drive on my machine and it is not being recognized by feisty.  is there anything i can do to automatically scan for new drives and update fstab or mtab?
[04:34] <Pelo> flavioribeiro, I think but don't hold me to it ,   menu > system > admin > network toolls > set it up there
[04:34] <knix__> Pelo, nope.  Just a generic pp, with music.  TO be able to watch on dvd players
[04:34] <BlindSide> im trying to install 7.04 ubuntu on my computer but it hangs when scanning the partitions
[04:34] <luckyaba> blind: hmmm
[04:34] <blind> luckyaba: are you registered and identified?
[04:34] <ubuntu-rocks> i'm trying to do sudo apt-get install apache2-doc and it's asking for the feisty fawn cd which i can't find and don't want to burn, can i get apt-get to download the package?
[04:35] <BlindSide> what is the linux equivilant of  "format"?
[04:35] <yanger> eh, uhm if i emulate my system via vmware player, and install fiesty on the vmware drive, then ghost it and throw it on a real system, would it still work?
[04:35] <Pelo> knix,  open  imprss from the menu > office> openoffice presentation,  then open your PP from there I think
[04:35] <arkanabar> Can anyone explain how gksu could lose authentication protocols?
[04:35] <Jordan_U> knix__, DVD players don't read powerpoint presentations, or maybe I am misunderstanding
[04:35] <foutrelis> ubuntu-rocks: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the line about the cd. :)
[04:35] <ZeroA4> ubuntu-rocks, yes. disable the CD as a source
[04:35] <knix__> Jordan_U, correct, but there is a way to convert it
[04:36] <ZeroA4> blind, mkfs
[04:36] <Pelo> ubuntu-rocks,  sudo apt-get update then  run the install command again
[04:36] <ZeroA4> BlindSide, mkfs
[04:36] <blind> ZeroA4: ?
[04:36] <BlindSide> ok sweet
[04:36] <ZeroA4> blind, sorry...
[04:36] <BlindSide> :P
[04:36] <blind> lol no problem :P
[04:36] <ubuntu-rocks> is gksudo gui cause i only have command line
[04:36] <emotion> hey, sorry i'm a pretty big nub, but can someone help me install ubuntu or xubuntu on an old laptop
[04:36] <BlindSide> anyway im trying to install ubuntu but it stops at 15% when it says its detecting partitions
[04:36] <Andruk> i added a scsi controller and hdd, how do i get ubuntu to see it?
[04:37] <Pelo> ubuntu-rocks,  sudo then
[04:37] <BlindSide> it doesnt show an error it just doesnt do anything further
[04:37] <foutrelis> ubuntu-rocks: sudo pico then :)
[04:37] <Miso> My hdd is split into two partitions and I just installed xp on one of them.  I want to install ubuntu on the other.. where can I find instructions on how to do this safely?
[04:37] <Pelo> ubuntu-rocks, do not edit your sources list , you donT' need to  just update
[04:37] <arkanabar> ubuntu-rocks gksu is gui as is gedit.  try sudo nano instead of gksu gedit.
[04:37] <emotion> hey, sorry i'm a pretty big nub, but can someone help me install ubuntu or xubuntu on an old laptop
[04:37] <BlindSide> Miso: just put the cd in and choose to manually partition
[04:38] <Pelo> Miso,  the installer in the live cd will direct you very easily you donT' need any special instructions
[04:38] <yanger> emotion, use the alternate install cd
[04:38] <arkanabar> miso -- install CD should be able to detect and install on your second partition.
[04:38] <emotion> i'll give that a shot
[04:38] <emotion> the problem is every time i use the regular cd
[04:38] <emotion> after clicking install ubuntu or whatever
[04:38] <emotion> it takes forever to load
[04:38] <Miso> how do i choose what operating system to boot into after installing ubuntu?
[04:38] <emotion> and if it does finish loading
[04:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, enter | emotion
[04:38] <ubotu> emotion: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:38] <ubuntu> !grub
[04:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:38] <emotion> i can't click anything
[04:39] <Pelo> emotion,  the alternate install cd is text based it is much eaiser on resources
[04:39] <emotion> oh, sorry
[04:39] <miyako> hey
[04:39] <Pelo> !alternate | emotion
[04:39] <ubotu> emotion: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[04:39] <ubuntu-rocks> just some fodder guys, i installed feisty fawn a couple times on different boxes over the last 2 days, 1) it doesn't seem to detect western digitals drives (120 and 20gigs)
[04:39] <foutrelis> emotion: yanger suggested you use the alternate cd. sounds good to me :)
[04:39] <Miso> ubuntu: grub will give me the option to load xp or ubuntu?
[04:39] <yanger> older PCs may not work with the Live CD
[04:39] <arkanabar> miso -- yes
[04:39] <foutrelis> Miso: It will.
[04:39] <ubuntu-rocks> 2) it detected my ide drives as scsi!! (sda) but it still works! weird huh!
[04:39] <emotion> ok, do i need to know anything for that or is it pretty self explanatory?
[04:40] <Miso> thank you all
[04:40] <BlindSide> !Minimal
[04:40] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:40] <arkanabar> ubuntu-rocks -- yeah, thats the way we do it now.
[04:40] <Pelo> ubuntu-rocks,  I know there have been issues with SATA HDD but I haven'T expericed it myself and I have two WDC hdd one sata one IDe
[04:40] <foutrelis> emotion: The installation is in text-mode but very easy to follow.
[04:40] <Madpilot> ubuntu, the ide-as-scsi/sata is supposed to happen - the whole drive-handling stuff has changed as of Feisty
[04:41] <ubuntu-rocks> the scsi things really threw me for a loop but i figured once it works, i don't care! :)
[04:41] <emotion> thanks, i'll try that out
[04:41] <yanger> i have issue with my seagate sata hdd, if the PC crashes, you must use the Seagate recovery cd to correct something on the hdd before you can re-mount it
[04:41] <teer2> Hi, would you think the next version of Ubuntu will include Red Hat's liberation fonts?
[04:41] <teer2> http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/05/09/liberation-fonts/
[04:41] <arkanabar> anyone know why gksu would lose authentication protocols after installing kubuntu desktop?
[04:41] <Pelo> yanger,  check the forum for your hdd model ,  maybe ther is a solution in there
[04:41] <ubuntu-rocks> i tried 2 different mobo's and it still couldn't detect either of my western digital drives! :(
[04:42] <Pelo> arkanabar,  bevause gksu is for gnome , kdsu for kde
[04:42] <aubadde> ^ What he said.
[04:42] <yanger> ubuntu-rocks, your mainboards detect them though?
[04:42] <arkanabar> pelo ... but right now, I'm IN gnome, and getting that sort of error.
[04:43] <ubuntu-rocks> yanger, yes, both of them did
[04:43] <Pelo> arkanabar,   it is possible that isntalling the kubuntu-desktop changed it  try with kdsu and see what happnes
[04:43] <yanger> ubuntu-rocks, they should be sdx or something..
[04:43] <ubuntu-rocks> i even changed the bios from auto to user
[04:43] <foutrelis> teer2: I don't know if they will be included in 7.10 but can't you just install them manually? or you could use !alien to convert the rpm to deb. :)
[04:44] <ubuntu-rocks> yanger, is sdx the driver? it did give me a chance to pick a driver but everone i chose didn't work!
[04:44] <yanger> ubuntu-rocks, the drive should be /dev/sdx, x = a,b,c...
[04:44] <shaba1> Hello anyone ever use tightvnc under ubuntu
[04:44] <Pupen1> Hello.
[04:45] <yanger> shaba1, i used to
[04:45] <shaba1> I *think* I installed it but now I cannot get it to run
[04:45] <bieb> GAPeach.. you still here??
[04:45] <ubuntu-rocks> yanger, i didn't get that far, the installation couldn't detect a hard drive driver and gave me a huge list to pick from
[04:45] <shaba1> I am typing vncviewer -help from a terminal winodw
[04:45] <GAPeach> bieb: I'm here. Photobucket finally finished.
[04:45] <bieb> ahh
[04:45] <ubuntu-rocks> i just ran sudo apt-get install apache2-doc
[04:45] <Pelo> GAPeach, slow connecition ?
[04:45] <bieb> GAPeach... pm me...
[04:45] <shaba1> and all I am getting is Floating Point exception (core dumped)
[04:45] <yanger> ubuntu-rocks, did u see any /dev/sda in the list ? [not sure what you see when you say list]
[04:46] <Pelo> GAPeach, can I get the link ?
[04:46] <arkanabar> pelo, that gives me a BIG stack of errors -- "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169  /  Major opcode:  147  /  Minor opcode:  3  /  Resource id:  0x0" 4X over, with some more stuff at the end.
[04:46] <Pupen1> Hello.
[04:46] <bieb> Pelo.. yeah Peach is on Bellsouth/ATT *blech*
[04:46] <ubuntu-rocks> where does the apache documentation get installed? tried /usr/share/apache2, no dice
[04:46] <jsizzle> greets, anyone elses azureus stop working recently? I've been running az on feisty since feisty was released and now azureus won't run, some kind of java internal error, anyone seen this or know a fix? TIA
[04:46] <Pelo> ubuntu-rocks,  probably a manpage
[04:47] <ubuntu-rocks> yanger, the gui installation ask you to choose a driver for the hard drive, unless you get the right one, installation does not continue. i'm using the fiersty fawn cd
[04:47] <Jeremy_Core2> I'm trying to set up Xorg to do dual-head on a GeForce 6600.  I have a 19" WS and a 14" monitor (both LCDs).  The system wants to make the 14" LCD my screen 0.  Is there any way to tie "screen 0" to the big monitor?
[04:47] <Andruk> is there a way i can rescan my comp for new hds?
[04:47] <Pelo> arkanabar, that was my best guess , try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop and hope it fixes it
[04:47] <Andruk> !ubotu hard drive
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hard drive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <homanj> ubuntu-rocks: can you run apache2-doc at the command line? just a guess
[04:47] <GAPeach> GAPeach: Unreliable connection thanks to AT&T. Would rather not discuss right now. http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w97/Gyvro/Screenshot.png.
[04:47] <ubuntu-rocks> pelo, tried man apache, man apache2, still no dice, is there a log of what gets installed from a package?
[04:47] <Pelo> jsizzle,  ask in #azureus-support
[04:47] <homanj> Jeremy_Core2: can you do that in nvidia-settings?
[04:48] <Jeremy_Core2> homanj: I'll look into it.  I haven't found anything
[04:48] <Pelo> ubuntu-rocks,  I donT' know, try locate apache
[04:48] <GAPeach> Pelo: Made a mistake there. http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w97/Gyvro/Screenshot.png
[04:48] <arkanabar> pelo -- so 'sudo apt-get install unbuntu-desktop'?
[04:48] <Pupen1> My notebook is writting the fn keys when in Ubuntu. That is, I press some keys, and numbers are written instead. But on the login screen (gdb) and on the real terminals (ctrl-alt-f1), it doesn't happen. This started to happen when I unplugged the computer and moved to the living room. Any ideas?
[04:48] <Pelo> arkanabar,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:49] <homanj> Jeremy_Core2: i guess you could force the big lcd to screen 0 by reinstalling with only the big lcd attached
[04:49] <homanj> Jeremy_Core2: but that would be a last resort to me.
[04:49] <emotion> can someone explain to me the advantages of ubuntu of xubuntu, or where i could find that information?
[04:49] <Jeremy_Core2> emotion:  as opposed to what?
[04:49] <teer2> foutrelis: Thanks for your opinion.  I was interested if Ubuntu would throw their support behind this free-software initiative.
[04:49] <Pelo> GAPeach,  ok   gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    let me know when it is opened
[04:49] <Jeremy_Core2> homanj:  I installed with only the big attached.  As soon as I attached the small LCD, it decided that was the dominant screen.  Even changing connnectors around didn't help
[04:50] <foutrelis> teer2: I downloaded the fonts and they look nice :)
[04:50] <homanj> Jeremy_Core2: interesting. can you run 'nvidia-settings'?
[04:50] <emotion> what's the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu... the website only says xubuntu is just faster, but why would you want regular ubuntu over xubuntu
[04:50] <homanj> emotion: different desktop managers
[04:50] <Pelo> ubuntu   check in this like you'll find where the documnetation is stored   http://doc.vic.computerbank.org.au/tutorials/linuxdirectorystructure/
[04:51] <bruenig> emotion, xubuntu uses xfce, ubuntu uses gnome, wikipedia time
[04:51] <Jeremy_Core2> homanj: cool, a gui.  I'll play with that, thanks
[04:51] <teer2> teer2: Okay, I'll install them, but I love how I can stick with the Ubuntu software repositories - and have a 100% Ubuntu tested system.  :)
[04:51] <Jeremy_Core2> emotion: xubuntu is a lot smaller.
[04:51] <homanj> Jeremy_Core2: np.
[04:51] <GAPeach> Pelo: It's open.
[04:52] <foutrelis> teer2: Well.. You would still have a 100% GNU/Linux system :P
[04:52] <DocNH> I have some how lost the "Run in terminal" dialog when I click on files in Ubuntu and I can't remember what I checked to make it go away.
[04:52] <DocNH> Anyone know where that option lives?
[04:52] <Pelo> GAPeach,  ok go to the bottom of the file,   look for a line that says   root   (hd0,0)   you'll want it to say that
[04:52] <bruenig> DocNH, the nautilus preferences
[04:52] <homanj> DocNH: so, in the file browser
[04:53] <bruenig> oh generic names, yes
[04:53] <DocNH> Thanks bruenig and homanj
[04:53] <Indicava> Hi, my Vista install on my Feisty Fawn / Vista dual boot just died, can anyone help?
[04:53] <GAPeach> Pelo: It's correct.
[04:53] <homanj> bruenig: took me awhile to equate file browser with nautilus
[04:53] <ubuntu-rocks> found the apache docs in /usr/share/doc/apache2-doc/manual/ but it is in html!!! i'm command line, argh
[04:54] <bruenig> ubuntu-rocks, links
[04:54] <Pelo> GAPeach, the next 3 lines should read   savedefault ,  makeactive, chainloader  +1
[04:54] <cables> is there any way to view the contents of an sqlite database in a gui application?
[04:54] <SonsOfAtreus> Indicava, rule of thumb is that always install Linux after MS
[04:55] <SonsOfAtreus> the MBR is trumping grub
[04:55] <GAPeach> Pelo: Yeah, those lines are there and they are correct.
[04:55] <scast> hello all, I have a problem with synaptic
[04:55] <Pelo> GAPeach,  how many hdd do you have on this computer ?
[04:55] <scast> can anyone help me?
[04:55] <arkanabar> indicava, you installed fiesty second, yes?
[04:55] <GAPeach> Pelo: 1 drive.
[04:56] <Pelo> scast,  be patient it's a bit busy atm
[04:56] <fnord__> anyone here use a webcam?
[04:56] <Indicava> SonsOfAtreus, I did, and everything worked fine, except I got a "new hardware" detected dialog (x3) in Vista after the ubuntu install, today I clicked some "ignore" button and since then Vista is BSOD'ing on me...
[04:56] <fnord__> i just want to capture images from my webcam and save them locally in a web dir, but I'm not sure what application to use
[04:56] <wingot> scast: What's the problem?
[04:56] <Jordan_U> How do I run a GUI application as another user?
[04:56] <ubuntu-rocks> when i open any of the html files in links, i get stuff like this
[04:56] <Pelo> GAPeach,  ok,  there is the thing,  it should work as is, so I am guessing there is aproblem with your windows installaiton,   you'll want to so a windows repair install  , and then you'll want to reinstall grub, let me get you a link
[04:57] <scast> The thing is that I have a problem with synaptic and power management thingy... can i someone help me? :D
[04:57] <Pelo> GAPeach,   for the window repair install   http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
[04:57] <Jordan_U> !grub | GAPeach ( for GRUB re-install after windows )
[04:57] <ubotu> GAPeach ( for GRUB re-install after windows ): grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:57] <dr_willis> Jordan_U,  could use the 'sudo' command  it has a feature to login as a different user, then ya can run stuff. usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid]
[04:57] <ubuntu-rocks> URI: server-wide.html.en Content-Language: en Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8559-1............
[04:57] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  thanks for cutting me off
[04:58] <Jordan_U> Pelo, sorry, I thought that was the link you were looking for
[04:58] <Pelo> GAPeach, got it ?
[04:58] <foutrelis> Jordan_U: Maybe Alt + F2 "gksudo"
[04:58] <arkanabar> indicava, SonsOfAtreus just left, and I don't know squat about vista ... but that it sounds like you need a vista expert more than an ubuntu expert.
[04:58] <GAPeach> GAPeach: Yup.
[04:58] <Jordan_U> foutrelis, Doesn't work " can't open Display"
[04:58] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  it was , I jsut tought it might be confusing for GAPeach  to see someone else jump in like that
[04:58] <Pelo> GAPeach,  best of luck
[04:59] <Gat0rvean> how can I set the permissions on my windows side of the box so that I can save stuff on there?
[04:59] <foutrelis> Jordan_U: Are you running a server or an installation without GUI?
[04:59] <fnord__> anyone? simple applicaion to save images from a webcam?
[04:59] <bieb> Hey GAPeach.. shoot me a pm...
[04:59] <jsizzle> #azureus-support are all idlers, no one will respond
[04:59] <Jordan_U> foutrelis, Nope
[04:59] <wastrel> !webcam
[04:59] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:59] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g | Gat0rvean
[04:59] <ubotu> Gat0rvean: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:59] <Indicava> arkanabar, I came here after consulting a few Vista "experts" and no one could help, I thought someone here might have run into the "new hardware" dialog thingy after installing ubuntu
[04:59] <foutrelis> Jordan_U: It works for me in Ubuntu 7.04 :(
[04:59] <jsizzle> can anyone just tell me if they're able to run azureus on the latest feisty with all avail updates?
[05:00] <fnord__> thanks wastrel
[05:00] <Pelo> jsizzle,  well azureus isn'T what it use to be,   ppl use utorrent on wine instead
[05:00] <arkanabar> indicava I understand... there's just no such thing as a vista expert, even at Micro$oft...
[05:01] <jsizzle> pelo: I tried that, and I have utorrent running on wine but the download speeds are SO much SLOWER
[05:01] <Jordan_U> foutrelis, It works running as root, just not as another Desktop user
[05:01] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> hello all
[05:01] <Pelo> jsizzle,  that is not my experience of it but what ever
[05:01] <arbrown> jsizzle, rtorrent is quit nice
[05:01] <jsizzle> rtorrent eh?
[05:01] <Jordan_U> foutrelis, I have to actually log out and back in as the other user to run GUI programs
[05:01] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> what's the documentation channel?
[05:01] <Pelo> jsizzle,  give deluge-torrent a try
[05:01] <arkanabar> indicava, all *I* can suggest, given my extremely limited knowledge, is to partition your drive first, then install vista, and THEN ubuntu.  I'm guessing you resized the vista partition to fit ubuntu....
[05:02] <homanj> jsiz
[05:02] <Pelo> ta_bu_shi_da_yu,  documentation for what ?
[05:02] <foutrelis> Jordan_U: Sorry, I can't help further :(
[05:02] <arbrown> it should b the repos (the new version can do encryption but you'll need to compile)
[05:02] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> the ubuntu community documentation
[05:02] <Indicava> arkanabar, my guess is Vista was detecting each new linux partition as a new device, as long as I clicked "cancel" it just kept reminding me each boot, today I clicked "dont bug me again" and then it BSOD after boot
[05:02] <Jordan_U> foutrelis, Can you confirm that it does work for you running as another non-root user?
[05:02] <dr_willis> Jordan_U,  i rember doing this in the past.. ya could always 'ssh -X username' to localhost and then run the app. :)
[05:02] <Pelo> ta_bu_shi_da_yu,   try www.ubuntuforums.com
[05:03] <jsizzle> pelo: deluge says it has no installation candidate
[05:03] <arkanabar> indicava, yeah, that's sort of what I guessed.  But it really is a guess.
[05:03] <FragUPlenty> anyone know where I can get a .deb file for kiba dock
[05:03] <Pelo> jsizzle,   there is a deb package for feisty on the front page
[05:03] <homanj> jsizzle: deluge-torrent?
[05:03] <jsizzle> homanj: yep deluge-torrent
[05:03] <Pelo> www.deluge-torrent.org
[05:04] <homanj> jsizzle: wow, i guess well.
[05:04] <Indicava> so I am screwed until I find some Vista guru to figure out what went wrong
[05:04] <PinkFloyd> I got an error when compiling a program that says I need the Glib 2.0 development tools
[05:04] <Jordan_U> Indicava, #windows ?
[05:04] <PinkFloyd> What package is that? Glib?
[05:04] <Gat0rvean> Pelo, what's the "support for external NTFS partition" option for?
[05:04] <Pelo> Indicava,  you can always try asking in ##windows
[05:04] <homanj> PinkFloyd: what program are you trying to compile?
[05:04] <dr_willis> Jordan_U,  ssh -X otheruser@localhost      workjs for me. :) theres proberly some other way. that may need to be used with the xhost and exporting the display variable.
[05:04] <jsizzle> Vista=POS
[05:04] <Pelo> Gat0rvean, if you have an external hdd formated to NTFS
[05:04] <arkanabar> indicava, if you like, you could try reformatting, partitioning first, installing windows second, and then installing ubuntu.
[05:04] <Jordan_U> Gat0rvean, If you have an external enclosure or NTFS formatted pen drive
[05:04] <PinkFloyd> homanj: Pidgin
[05:05] <arkanabar> no promises or guarantees
[05:05] <homanj> PinkFloyd: ah, happened to me too.
[05:05] <foutrelis> Jordan_U: Oh.. I used root before as the "run as" user. You are right, doesn't work for other users :(
[05:05] <Gat0rvean> Pelo, so if it's just the other partition on my system, I can leave that unchecked?
[05:05] <homanj> PinkFloyd: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[05:05] <Pelo> Gat0rvean, yes
[05:05] <Gat0rvean> Pelo, great, thanks a bunch!
[05:05] <Pelo> np
[05:05] <homanj> PinkFloyd: that will get you all the packages needed to build gaim/pidgin
[05:05] <PinkFloyd> ok thanks
[05:06] <homanj> PinkFloyd: np.
[05:06] <PinkFloyd> I have GAIM, I just need to compile Pidgin
[05:06] <maatttt> does ubuntu have better security updates than pure debian ?
[05:06] <homanj> PinkFloyd: did you compile gaim before?
[05:06] <arkanabar> indicava, i'm sorry to have to say you've picked an OS that is deliberately twitchy and prone to lockup.
[05:06] <homanj> maatttt: i would say that is hard to measure.
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> i install my pidgin from a deb file
[05:06] <Pelo> maatttt,  probably not,  I'm guessing they are pretty equivalent,  most distros are on that point
[05:06] <Indicava> is the #windows channel ever alive ?
[05:06] <Jordan_U> dr_willis, lol "The authenticity of host 'localhost (<IP_ADDRESS>)' can't be established." not that that is a problem, just funny :)
[05:07] <homanj> nomasteryoda: where did you find the .deb?
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> Indicava, no.. they are not geek enough
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> hang on
[05:07] <arbrown> maatttt, ~equiv to stable but Ubuntu would certainly have an edge over Debian testing
[05:07] <Pelo> Indicava,  ##windows , and no idea,  I guess they all saw the light and they are here now
[05:07] <wastrel> i've found ##windows to be helpful
[05:07] <brophat> anyone use opera?
[05:08] <chrisjs169> i do
[05:08] <homanj> arbrown: well, ubuntu is based on debian unstable. so ubuntu might be a little more unstable than debian stable.
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> homanj, i got from getdeb
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> .org i believe
[05:08] <homanj> nomasteryoda: ok, cool.
[05:08] <PinkFloyd> homanj: I didnt compile GAIM, I just installed it with apt I think
[05:08] <wolfspirit> has anyone used gdesklets with beryl?  when I first added them they were fine but after a restart of all of the desklets have a black background instead of a transparent background
[05:08] <bieb> brophat I have
[05:08] <brophat> when i foward an html content email it does not get sent as html content. where can I set that?
[05:08] <FragUPlenty> I have a problem with my screen resolution
[05:08] <chrisjs169> i'm trying to get this computer to function as a proxy/dhcp server, but it doesn't seem to be working
[05:08] <Pelo> homanj, I thought ubuntu was built on the latest stable debian ?
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> works very well too
[05:08] <Pelo> FragUPlenty,  we need specifics
[05:09] <FragUPlenty> when I run quake 3 the image doesnt stretch to fit the screen
[05:09] <scast> UBUNTU IS MEANT TO BE EASY!
[05:09] <chrisjs169> i only need two NIC's for a dhcp server, correct?
[05:09] <arbrown> homanj: Just referring to Debian's security policy for Testing. Security updates lag behind unstable by weeks sometimes.
[05:09] <scast> Woops, I had caps lock on.
[05:09] <bruenig> !caps | scast
[05:09] <homanj> PinkFloyd: then you dont have everything needed to compile Pidgin. do 'sudo apt-get build-dep gaim' at the command line
[05:09] <ubotu> scast: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:09] <Pelo> FragUPlenty,  check in the forum for info on quacke
[05:09] <homanj> arbrown: ah, i see.
[05:09] <bruenig> homanj, libpurpl....
[05:09] <FragUPlenty> the monitors native res is 1280x768 but I can only play quake 3 in 640x480
[05:09] <PinkFloyd> ok homanj
[05:09] <FragUPlenty> it isnt just a problem with quake
[05:09] <scast> You guys don't seem like you can!
[05:09] <brophat> chrisjs169 do you know?
[05:10] <FragUPlenty> anything that runs lower then what is the default resolution
[05:10] <chrisjs169> brophat: know what?
[05:10] <homanj> bruenig: what about libpurple?
[05:10] <frenchy> is anyone in here running ubuntu on dual core
[05:10] <Pelo> FragUPlenty,  check theforum  maybe other quake users have had the same problem and posted a soltuon
[05:10] <PingFloyd> arbrown: if they lag that long behind, then that is usually indicative that where was a major problem with the update
[05:10] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> ah... the channel is #ubuntu-doc
[05:10] <bruenig> just keeping you aware
[05:10] <brophat> how I can foward an html content email
[05:10] <FragUPlenty> ok
[05:10] <bruenig> I don't know I just came in, figured libpurple would be a good thing to mention
[05:10] <wolfspirit> frenchy: I am
[05:11] <homanj> bruenig: ah, ok. isn't libpurple the core at pidgin? which used to be libgaim?
[05:11] <chrisjs169> so where can i find a guide for bridging/setting up a proxy/dhcp server?
[05:11] <arkanabar> scast, if you aren't getting help, it is usually because nobody knows.
[05:11] <homanj> Pelo: you could be right, re ubuntu and debian
[05:11] <brophat> bieb do you know?
[05:11] <frenchy> wolfspirit do they not have an smp kernel anymore? does the generic one have smp support compiled in it already?
[05:11] <Pelo> chrisjs169, http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/unleashed/
[05:11] <bruenig> homanj, yes, apt-get build-dep would put some unnecessary files on the disk presumably
[05:11] <scast> No ways!
[05:11] <bieb> brophat.. sorry, I missed it.. can you repeat the ??
[05:12] <PingFloyd> arbrown: also, in more recent times, the debian security team is now covering testing
[05:12] <mIgUeL_sAn> !wine
[05:12] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:12] <brophat> bieb when i foward an html content email it does not get sent as html content. where can I set that?
[05:12] <bieb> hmmmm
[05:12] <arbrown> PingFloyd: Thanks for the info! Didn't know that testing is now being covered by the security team. Lenny is looking pretty appealing at this poin...
[05:13] <homanj> bruenig: unnecessary files? why do you think that?
[05:13] <PingFloyd> arbrown: np
[05:13] <kuja> Is it possible to set GNOME hotkeys?
[05:13] <brophat> bieb yeah i can't find where email preferences is in opera
[05:13] <bieb> brophat, let me look
[05:13] <wolfspirit> frenchy: I think it's built in because I can see/use both CPUs fine
[05:13] <fnord__> !webcam
[05:13] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:13] <brophat> ok thanks bro. i have been looking for awhile haha
[05:13] <frenchy> wolfspirit: how can i tell if its useing both. /proc/cpuinfo?
[05:13] <bruenig> homanj, libgaim
[05:14] <IcemanV9> kuja: system > pref > keyboard shortcuts
[05:14] <PingFloyd> arbrown: here's their site for testing info http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/
[05:14] <kuja> Thanks
[05:14] <wolfspirit> frenchy: the sys monitor program under performance is how I know
[05:14] <marvin_> hey guys... i've got a prob with sound on my ffawn installation....can anyone help out..
[05:14] <homanj> bruenig: build-dep gaim installs libgaim?
[05:15] <frenchy> wolfspirit: gotcha, its working
[05:15] <bruenig> homanj, maybe, I don't know
[05:15] <Pelo> !sound | marve
[05:15] <ubotu> marve: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:15] <arkanabar> marvin_, just ask about your problem, not if we can help.
[05:15] <homanj> bruenig: you could be right, but i think you are wrong.
[05:15] <Pelo> arkanabar,  he did ask his problem , he got a replay
[05:15] <ubuntu_user07> hi all. how can i prevent ubuntu from stretching an image when i set it as my wallpaper?
[05:16] <homanj> bruenig: i think build-dep gaim installs the packages needed to build gaim/pidgin
[05:16] <marvin_> sound was working on installation... aplay -l.. shows the card. but i hear nothing.....
[05:16] <dany3793> how do i move a directory to my /usr/lib directory?
[05:16] <bruenig> dany3793, mv directory /usr/lib
[05:16] <homanj> bruenig: then, gaim/pidgin will compile, etc
[05:16] <Pelo> ubuntu_user07,  right click desktop,  select wallapaper,   just below the wallpaper list ther eis abutton for size
[05:16] <bruenig> homanj, yes I presume libgaim to be a requirement for gaim
[05:16] <Jimmy06> hey guys need some help on an install im trying todo
[05:16] <homanj> bruenig: indeed it is.
[05:16] <dany3793> bruenig: i tried sudo mv directory /usr/lib and it says it cannot move a directory into the directory..idk
[05:17] <Pelo> Jimmy06,  give us some specifics please
[05:17] <homanj> Jimmy06: what are you trying to install?
[05:17] <ubuntu_user07> if i change the orange is there a way to get it back to default
[05:17] <bruenig> dany3793, it shouldn't
[05:17] <Jimmy06> ubuntu lol
[05:17] <PriceChild> !netsplit
[05:17] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[05:17] <dany3793> sorry, bruenig: mv: cannot move `pkgconfig' to a subdirectory of itself, `/usr/lib/pkgconfig'
[05:17] <Zelda> !usplash
[05:17] <bieb> brophat??
[05:17] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[05:17] <nixternal> at least we got a little bit of a warning
[05:17] <Jimmy06> i get a cant mount root error
[05:17] <PriceChild> nixternal, 15 seconds? :)
[05:17] <brophat> bieb yes
[05:17] <Zelda> hrm
[05:17] <frenchy> wolfspirit: do you have any experience setting up a 32 bit firefox in ubuntu x86_64 i want to use the plugins that arent available for 64 bit
[05:17] <nixternal> ya
[05:17] <dany3793> ohhh, i see nevermind :)
[05:17] <bieb> I cant find it either....
[05:18] <brophat> bieb ok haha
[05:18] <bieb> are you trying to send the actual html page? or just the link?
[05:18] <arbrown> PingFloyd: thanks for the link. Was just looking it up.
[05:18] <brophat> maybe they hard wired it
[05:18] <PriceChild> nixternal, here's a big one :)
[05:18] <brophat> bieb I am fowarding an email that is html
[05:18] <yagami> is it possible to use rpm in ubuntu to install rpm packages?
[05:18] <yagami> or do i always need to convert it through alien?
[05:18] <Pelo> PriceChild,  quit kicking ppl out , we know hyou have the power
[05:19] <bieb> brophat.. is it using Opera? or do you have it set to use another email prog?
[05:19] <yagami> alien gives me this annooying error: Use of uninitialized value in die at /usr/share/perl5/Alien/Package/Deb.pm line 487, <GETPERMS> line 46.
[05:19] <brophat> bieb i am using the opera email client
[05:19] <Jordan_U> yagami, You need Alien, but even that is not guarenteed to work, use at your own risk
[05:19] <nixternal> I love how everyone comes back without hostmasks
[05:19] <Pelo> yagami,   you are better off compiling from source then converting a rpm ,
[05:19] <PriceChild> nixternal, that's your client afaik
[05:19] <yagami> yeah, but hwo do i convert rpm to source?
[05:19] <bieb> ok
[05:19] <PriceChild> yagami, you can't convert a binary to soruce
[05:20] <frenchy> wolfspirit: do you have any experience setting up a 32 bit firefox in ubuntu x86_64 i want to use the plugins that arent available for 64 bit
[05:20] <yagami> the only thing provided for lightscribe labelling is rpm
[05:20] <nixternal> irssi doing that? here come the hostnames now
[05:20] <nixternal> probably so, something with the stupid sync and how it does /who
[05:20] <brophat> bieb i think there is usually a preference for sending out email as html or text or both
[05:20] <Jimmy06> is there a string i have to enter to get SATA support
[05:20] <yagami> yeah, but its still possible to use rpm natively on ubuntu provided that its got the dependencies right?
[05:20] <Pelo> yagami,  you do not convert rpm to source,   you get the source from the site,  sites are obligated to provide the source code,  usualy as a tar.gz file
[05:20] <brophat> bieb but i have not been able to find that perference option in opera.
[05:20] <KevinOman> ok I have a bit of a problem, while trying to get rid of the beryl-manader.desktop icon in the tray I broke beryl, now I cannot move my wondows around to do anything, how do I revert back to the gtk window manager
[05:21] <Pelo> yagami,  you cannot use rpm natively on ubuntu,   deb are native to ubuntu not rpm , rpm are for red hat
[05:21] <nixternal> PriceChild: here we go again
[05:21] <PriceChild> !netsplit
[05:21] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[05:21] <nixternal> haha
[05:21] <brophat> bieb seems as if they hardwired it to send email as text only
[05:21] <PriceChild> !traffic
[05:21] <bieb> yeah thats what I was looking for too
[05:21] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[05:21] <danny3793> how do i move an entire directories contents to another directory through terminal?
[05:21] <Pelo> yagami,  you cannot use rpm natively on ubuntu,   deb are native to ubuntu not rpm , rpm are for red hat
[05:21] <Pelo> yagami,  you cannot use rpm natively on ubuntu,   deb are native to ubuntu not rpm , rpm are for red hat
[05:21] <Pelo> yagami,  you cannot use rpm natively on ubuntu,   deb are native to ubuntu not rpm , rpm are for red hat
[05:21] <Pelo> yagami,  you cannot use rpm natively on ubuntu,   deb are native to ubuntu not rpm , rpm are for red hat
[05:21] <Pelo> yagami,  you cannot use rpm natively on ubuntu,   deb are native to ubuntu not rpm , rpm are for red hat
[05:21] <nerdbo1> anyone know how to use hdd
[05:22] <nerdbo1> says i need owner
[05:22] <PriceChild> Pelo, please don't
[05:22] <Jordan_U> danny3793, cp -r
[05:22] <yagami> lol, Pelo heard it the first time :)
[05:22] <seth> is gmome-look.org down?
[05:22] <Pelo> seth,  try it again in a few hours
[05:22] <Jimmy06> ok i need help installing ubuntu im not a novice just dont understand my error ?
[05:22] <danny3793> Jordam_U: so i type sudo cp -r directory /dire/ctory?
[05:22] <PriceChild> !traffic
[05:22] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[05:23] <Jordan_U> seth, Looks like it, there is always art.gnome.org :)
[05:23] <Pelo> Jimmy06,  you'll need todo better at explaining your problem , and you are hardly a novice this is at least your second install
[05:23] <danny3793> What is with ALLL these people quitting and joining?
[05:23] <Pntkl> ?
[05:23] <nerdbo1> anyone feel like giving me a hand
[05:23] <The|Navigator> Didnt you see, theyre fixing up the servers
[05:23] <Jimmy06> i use Fedora core alot
[05:23] <crdlb> !netsplit
[05:23] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[05:23] <nerdbo1> netsplit
[05:23] <Jimmy06> :-)
[05:23] <seth> yeah but i was trying to get the os x icon set anybody got any links for it? besides gmome-look.org?
[05:23] <Pelo> danny3793,  there servers are undergoing maintenance , it causes splits in the network
[05:23] <ubuntu_user07> is there an easy way to restore the default ubuntu orange if i change it when i changed my wallpaper?
[05:23] <The|Navigator> dmwaters has 4 major rotation servers to upgrade.
[05:24] <danny3793> confusing..lol
[05:24] <PriceChild> seth, yeah.... its as default in one of those distributions... whats it called.... OSX? :)
[05:24] <nerdbo1> hello?
[05:24] <Pelo> ubuntu_user07,   menu > system > prefs > themes  : select human
[05:24] <Jimmy06> on install i get this error "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)
[05:24] <PriceChild> seth, afaik you won't find the "real" set anywhere but there
[05:24] <brophat> bieb take an  html content email that you have recieved and click foward and see if it comes up as html or just text.
[05:25] <nerdbo1> pricechild, hi
[05:25] <linux__> hi
[05:25] <Pelo> Jimmy06,  use the alternate intall cd
[05:25] <seth> where can i get a os x icon set for gmome anybody got any clues, gnome-look.org is the only place i know of that has the set
[05:25] <kestri> what entry to i need to make in menu.lst to boot off my master hard drive with Windows XP on the 2nd ide cable in grub???
[05:25] <bieb> ok
[05:25] <Jimmy06> why ? i have a 64bit CPU
[05:25] <kestri> do*
[05:25] <Fezzler> After 3 days trying, I finally have samba installed on my Ubuntu 7 box and my Vista Box sees the path/files
[05:25] <ubuntu_user07> that didn't work. it just changed my theme
[05:25] <Jimmy06> so i donwloaded the 64bit version
[05:25] <Pelo> seth,  just wait until it comes back
[05:25] <linux__> why gaim can't play QQ ?
[05:25] <Fezzler> Several issues exist, but at least having them see each other is a start
[05:26] <Pelo> Jimmy06,  use the 32 bit version , you wonT' have any flash issues
[05:26] <crdlb> ubuntu_user07: you want to restore the default wallpaper?
[05:26] <Jimmy06> crap more downloading
[05:26] <seth> okay I guess i will just wait out for gnome-look.org to get back up
[05:26] <Fezzler> any samba gurus here?
[05:26] <ubuntu_user07> crdlb: when you go to change background it says "desktop color" i want it back to the default
[05:26] <nerdbo1> does anyone know i am here
[05:26] <Pelo> kestri,  just move the windows entry to the top of the list
[05:26] <vbabiy> Hey guys can someone take a look  at this problem i am having with my nic http://vbabiy.mine.nu:8080/bandwidthError.html
[05:26] <danny3793> cp -r is not working, im trying to copy some stuff to /usr/share/man/man3, but using sudo cp -r man/man3 /usr/share/man/man3 is not working..
[05:27] <Pelo> kestri,  move all the lines
[05:27] <kestri> there is none since the drive was disconnected during the ubuntu install
[05:27] <Pelo> vbabiy, how about you give us the short version here
[05:27] <Jordan_U>  danny3793 Not working in what way?
[05:27] <Pelo> kesha,  ah
[05:27] <seth> Hey I got my got my ubuntu cd's in the mail a couple of days ago and some stickers, that made me very happy, anybody else get there cds in the mail yet?
[05:27] <Pelo> kestri,   pm ?
[05:27] <Tito_2> someone has compiled Diva video editor on Ubuntu Feisty?
[05:27] <Bree> o.o
[05:27] <danny3793> Jordan_U: nope its saying this : cp: omitting directory `man/man3'
[05:28] <kestri> im sorry? what is pm?
[05:28] <The|Navigator> PM: Private message
[05:28] <LadyNikon> private message
[05:28] <vbabiy> Pelo: well i have gigabyte but it sure is not acting like it is
[05:28] <kestri> oh
[05:28] <danny3793> Jordan_U: i need to copy about 30+ files from one directory to another using Terminal
[05:28] <seth> is there anyway to filter-out the people who join and leave, i dont want that to show up
[05:28] <kestri> sure. but you need to guide me through this :)
[05:28] <kestri> im new to irc
[05:28] <homanj> seth: depending on your irc client, you can hide the /part messages
[05:28] <Jimmy06> double click his name lol
[05:28] <PingFloyd> seth: that comes down to your irc client
[05:29] <seth> i am on gaim
[05:29] <The|Navigator> I'm hiding join AND part.
[05:29] <Fezzler> soon my Ubuntu will be a simple files server/back-up server on my home network serving a iMac G5; Vista Home; iMac OS9; XP and others.  Cool!
[05:29] <Jordan_U> danny3793, You could also do cp /directory/with/files/* directory/to/put/them/in
[05:29] <homanj> seth: there is a plugin to do that
[05:29] <Tito_2> use xchat
[05:29] <danny3793> Jordan_U: kk i will try that :P
[05:29] <Pelo> vbabiy, stop all traffic and then try www.dslreport.com
[05:29] <seth> can u hit me up with a link to that plugin?
[05:29] <vbabiy> Pelo: well this is for local network
[05:30] <danny3793> Jordan_U: ok i think that one worked, the files are now in there, thank you :D
[05:30] <Pelo> vbabiy, I dont, have a test for local network sorry
[05:30] <ubuntu_user07> so noone knows how to restore default desktop colors?
[05:30] <seth> how do i get pidgin for ubuntu?
[05:31] <vbabiy> well my test was to transfer 16 gigs
[05:31] <majnoon> a gen question does .deb files have any compression ??
[05:31] <zili> hi Pelo
[05:31] <vbabiy> and it didnt seem like gigabyte, did you see the site
[05:31] <Fezzler> vbabiy: using samba?
[05:31] <danny3793> where should i go if im having a problem compiling something through terminal? its an SH file and its saying theres something in the file when there really isnt...
[05:31] <vbabiy> Fezzler: explain
[05:32] <Pelo> hello zili
[05:32] <homanj> danny3793: what are you trying to complie?
[05:32] <homanj> compile*
[05:32] <Fezzler> vbabiy: www.samba.org
[05:32] <IcemanV9> ubuntu_user07: yes, you can .. just select the "human" in the theme (system > pref > theme)
[05:32] <vbabiy> Fezzler: i know what it is this is a windows computer
[05:32] <homanj> seth: it should be included by default
[05:32] <homanj> seth: in the plugins menu. i think
[05:33] <ubuntu_user07> iceman i did do that but it still did not change it when i right lcicked and went to change my background
[05:33] <danny3793> homanj: stratagus, when i try to run the autogen.sh file, its having a problem with the line "#!/bin/sh" in the file, the error is "bash: ./autogen.sh: /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory", sadly they have no support in their channel..
[05:33] <boow> anyone have problems with xine-ui on feisty 64 bit
[05:33] <vbabiy> that i am pulling files from
[05:33] <seth> see-yaa guys
[05:33] <IcemanV9> ubuntu_user07: background is for background only
[05:33] <totallinuxbeginn> i am trying to play ioquake3 on ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn and i get the error "./ioquake3.i386: error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" what should I do? I can't find the file anywhere on the internet...
[05:34] <Jordan_U> danny3793, May be a bashism ( in Edgy+ /bin/sh == dash ) try changing it to /bin/bash
[05:34] <homanj> danny3793: hmm, i dont think i can be of much help.
[05:34] <ubuntu_user07> iceman i know i ant it back to default is that possible or will i have to have written downthe he code
[05:34] <homanj> danny3793: any tutorials on their website?
[05:34] <Jordan_U> danny3793, What program is this?
[05:34] <IcemanV9> totallinuxbeginn: can you find it on your box? slocate libopenal.so.0
[05:34] <danny3793> Jordan_U: alrighty ill try that :P, homanj: yeah but they dont have any support for the error, ive check both their bug tracker, and the other thing they have, Jordan_U: its for a game engine called stratagus
[05:34] <boow> totallinuxbeginn, install openal with synaptic
[05:35] <totallinuxbeginn> boow: how do i do that?
[05:35] <totallinuxbeginn> iceman: i'll try
[05:35] <Jordan_U> !info stratagus | danny3793
[05:35] <ubotu> danny3793: stratagus: realtime strategy game for Unix and X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-9.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 563 kB, installed size 1328 kB
[05:35] <Jordan_U> danny3793, No need to compile at all :)
[05:35] <totallinuxbeginn> iceman: typing that command got me a blank line...  nothing happened
[05:36] <danny3793> Jordan_U: there is no bash folder being included: just #!/bin/sh, its an sh directory, yeah i know i can get the binary, but im wanting to get a bit of learning in here ;)
[05:36] <dr_willis> actually with most 'command' you type - returning nothing  = success :) most of the time.
[05:36] <rpdillon> linuxbeginner: or simply type "sudo apt-get install openal" on the command line
[05:36] <boow> sudo apt-get install libopenal0a in the terminal
[05:37] <IcemanV9> totallinuxbeginn: well, it might be not installed then. do what boow just said .. install openal (sudo aptitude install libopenal0)
[05:37] <bishop> wondering if someone could help me out.  i have a 7.04 install @ home that has a beagle magnifying glass up near the clock.  the 7.04 install on my laptop does not have it
[05:37] <totallinuxbeginn> it said setting up and exited
[05:37] <bishop> what package is that?  (and yes i have beagle installed)
[05:38] <totallinuxbeginn> ok now i have an error asking for pak0.pk3 but i can fix that
[05:38] <totallinuxbeginn> thanks for the help...
[05:38] <Jordan_U> danny3793, Many stupid programmers assume that /bin/sh is going to be bash when they know they actually want bash, and not anything else. Any sane person would ask for what they need, /bin/bash , but alas they don't, for no good reason at all and in Edgy+ /bin/sh is symlinked to a different shell, "dash" so try changing any reference to /bin/sh to /bin/bash :)
[05:38] <Fezzler> why does Vista PC see ubuntu box on network and mounts folder via samba, but Ubuntu sees Vista box but asks for user id and password?
[05:38] <Fezzler> Is ubuntu looking for user and password of Vista box or Ubuntu box?
[05:39] <j1tters> hey all question.  anyone successfully setup dual monitor with a matrox g550? mergedfb doesnt seem to work.. any ideas. i followed the walkthroug for dual monitors on the ubuntu site..
[05:39] <bishop> Fezzler, cause u have permissions wrong in vista
[05:39] <danny3793> Jordan_U: alright lemme try that, thanks for the tip, ;)
[05:39] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, Of Vista box
[05:39] <j1tters> one monitor works but second is black.
[05:40] <Fezzler> bishop: Where do I correct that?  In smb.conf file, samba, on Vista box?
[05:40] <danny3793> Jordan_U: now its saying "bash: ./autogen.sh: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory" :S
[05:40] <bishop> Fezzler, vista
[05:40] <PingFloyd> danny3793: try whereis bash
[05:41] <bishop> ugg.  i have added every panel applet i can.  i still cannot get the <shift F12> to search
[05:41] <Pupeno> My notebook is writting the fn keys when in Ubuntu. That is, I press some keys, and numbers are written instead. But on the login screen (uhm) and on the real terminals (ctrl-alt-f1), it doesn't happen. This started to happen when I unplugged the computer and moved to the living room.   [Everyone; root(Unix Group\root); root(SERVER\root)
[05:43] <tin_nqn> hello people. I have a question about  gtklp
[05:43] <danny3793> Sorry for the spam in advance...
[05:43] <darwin> Madpilot: What about easyubuntu?
[05:43] <IcemanV9> !automatix | darwin
[05:43] <ubotu> darwin: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:43] <tin_nqn> the tab "file" doesn't appear
[05:43] <j1tters> that a no on dual head setup? anyone know if there is a room for mergedfb?
[05:43] <DShepherd> i have a hp dv9000 hp laptop.  I want to find out info about my camera. lspci should help right?
[05:43] <danny3793> "-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-04-10 19:32 /bin/bash" "daniel@Daniel:~/Desktop/stratagus-2.2.4$ ls -l /bin/shl" "rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-05-11 22:52 /bin/sh -> dash"
[05:44] <Pupeno> No one knows? this is driving me crazy, my notebook is un-usable.
[05:44] <rpdillon> I'm actually mainly here to help folks, but s long as Im around, anyone have had luck dual-booting macbook with Ubuntu and BootCamp?  Mainly a Linux dude, but just bought a macbook for fun, thought I might try
[05:44] <Madpilot> darwin, it's got a slightly better rep, but I'm not sure it's actually still being developed.
[05:44] <danny3793> Pupeno: your keyboard is most likely setup wrong, when booting your computer, press ESC when it starts to load GRUB,go into recovery, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and reconfigure your keyboard
[05:44] <PingFloyd> danny3793: sudo ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh
[05:44] <IcemanV9> on my good old dapper box, is there a way to find what is the _date_ that it had been installed??
[05:45] <homanj> rpdillon: let me see if a buddy of mine with a macbook used bootcamp to install linux
[05:45] <darwin> Anyone know what's up with the Medibuntu repositories?
[05:45] <Pupeno> danny3793: why isn't then the log-in screen (gdb) working properly?
[05:45] <danny3793> PingFloyd: new error lol..."Ln: creating symbolic link `/bin/sh' to `/bin/bash': File exists"
[05:45] <dmb> hey, any of you know if dell is selling machines with ubuntu on them yet?
[05:45] <boow> i just got libdvdcss from there
[05:46] <PingFloyd> danny3793: rm the link first
[05:46] <danny3793> Pupeno: what do you mean isnt working properly?
[05:46] <homanj> dmb: details were released today
[05:46] <dmb> homanj: where?
[05:46] <rpdillon> cool thanks
[05:46] <Pupeno> danny3793: I mean "is".
[05:46] <Pupeno> danny3793: the login screen (gdb) is working properly.
[05:46] <danny3793> PingFloyd: what do you mean by rm the link?
[05:46] <homanj> dmb: http://jeremy.linuxquestions.org/2007/05/18/dell-announces-the-models-for-ubuntu/
[05:46] <Pupeno> danny3793: and this started to happen without resetting X11.
[05:46] <PingFloyd> danny3793: rm /bin/sh
[05:47] <boow> i like feisty except i'm having problems with xine-ui it crashes gnome
[05:47] <danny3793> Pupeno: go to System -> Prefs -> Keyboard, i believe
[05:47] <PingFloyd> danny3793: then do that ln line I gave you
[05:47] <Hor|zon> gdb? you mean gdm >.>
[05:47] <rpdillon> pupenu: if you restart X, you get the same thing?
[05:47] <Hor|zon> gdb is a debug program
[05:47] <Pupeno> danny3793: everything is correct there. I changed it and changed back.
[05:47] <homanj> rpdillon: sorry, i guess he hasn't installed linux on his macbook.
[05:47] <deebul> i don't have sound on my ubuntu. please help.
[05:47] <dmb> is there a room for just ubuntu discussion and not support?
[05:47] <rpdillon> homanj: cool , thanks for checking
[05:47] <Pelo> dmb, #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:47] <Pupeno> rpdillon: yes. I restarted the computer several times.
[05:47] <Hor|zon> #ubuntu-offtopic or something
[05:47] <boow> deebul, whats your sound card
[05:47] <ubuntu> ok i get a freeze error at my grub loading screen.... I have re-installed grub and it didnt fix it. Does anyone have any suggestions
[05:48] <Pupeno> s/gdb/gdm/
[05:48] <deebul> realtek, i think
[05:48] <wastrel> #!/bin/bash^M  seems wrong
[05:48] <funkja> After my moniter has been idle for a certian amount of time it goes black (not the screen saver - it's power save or something) and this is annoying when watching videos. I checked the power management menu but it says Never for "put display to sleep when idle" - is there anywhere else that would control this?
[05:48] <danny3793> PingFloyd: ok seems to have worked, now do i put the #! /bin/sh back inside of my file? i renamed it to #! /bin/bash
[05:48] <PingFloyd> danny3793: yeah
[05:48] <ubuntu> !grub
[05:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:48] <danny3793> wastrel: what do you mean wrong, lol...i dont know why its adding the ^M theres nothing in there, no space, nothing after the bash or sh
[05:48] <Brade1> wen i was using the 7.04 live cd
[05:48] <boow> deebul, do lsmod do you have a bunch of snd_* modules loaded
[05:48] <homanj> rpdillon: np.
[05:48] <PingFloyd> danny3793: anything that uses /bin/sh as it's shebang line will now use bash instead of dash like you want
[05:49] <Brade1> after bout 20mins of inactivty
[05:49] <wastrel> danny3793:  that's a windows linefeed
[05:49] <fabiosarts> hi
[05:49] <Brade1> it froze on me
[05:49] <Brade1> hi
[05:49] <homanj> dmb: there is #ubuntu-offtopic. #ubuntu is a support channel.
[05:49] <PingFloyd> wastrel: carriage return
[05:49] <vbabiy> hey guys what does this error mean: cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.
[05:49] <vbabiy> 7048: protocol negotiation failed
[05:49] <vbabiy> SMB connection failed
[05:49] <dmb> ah
[05:49] <dmb> thanks
[05:49] <wastrel> okey dokey
[05:49] <fabiosarts> i have a problem with damn 2.6.20 kernel with my nvidia gforce4 mx 440
[05:49] <PingFloyd> wastrel: he probably edited with nano
[05:49] <wastrel> nano does that?
[05:50] <danny3793> PingFloyd: same error still...damn...
[05:50] <PingFloyd> wastrel: nano tends to put CRs at the end of every line by default
[05:50] <Pupeno> Evidently it's something of the Gnome config, but I don't know what.
[05:50] <wastrel> how interesting
[05:50] <Pelo> g'night folks
[05:50] <PingFloyd> wastrel: also will do that to lines it wraps
[05:50] <deebul> i have 10 snd modules listed
[05:50] <rpdillon> you have to use nano with the -w option to avoid that
[05:50] <PingFloyd> wastrel: that's something to watch out for about nano
[05:50] <danny3793> PingFloyd: i havent edited it with Nano, but i have checked it with GEdit, and ive made sure nothing was in there that doesnt look like it needs to be
[05:51] <peepsalot> has anyone here printed google maps from firefox in Ubuntu?
[05:51] <boow> is the volume turned up
[05:51] <PingFloyd> danny3793: maybe gedit does that also, I'm not sure about with that one
[05:51] <peepsalot> it crashes every time i try
[05:51] <PingFloyd> danny3793: see how it looks in vim
[05:51] <danny3793> PingFloyd: how do i fix it? vim?
[05:51] <wastrel> peepsalot:  i have, works fine, used the "print" link on the map page.
[05:51] <deebul> vol is turned up
[05:51] <fabiosarts> i can't install any NVIDIA drivers :(
[05:51] <PingFloyd> danny3793: then you'll truly see what is in there
[05:51] <wastrel> dos2unix
[05:51] <PingFloyd> danny3793: if you're not used to vim, I would recommend using vim-gtk
[05:51] <danny3793> PingFloyd: what is vim :P
[05:52] <zili> how can i update my ubuntu 7.04 .please
[05:52] <peepsalot> wastrel, it actually prints for me, but firefox crashes none the less
[05:52] <deebul> i am a linux newbie
[05:52] <homanj> danny3793: text editor
[05:52] <homanj> similar to nano
[05:52] <homanj> kinda, sorta
[05:52] <danny3793> nevermind, getting it through package manager :P
[05:52] <boow> the only thing i can think of is your output is set to digital out instead of analog
[05:52] <PingFloyd> danny3793: vim is VI improved,  a VI like text editor
[05:52] <Pupeno> solved. It was numlock.
[05:52] <peepsalot> wastrel, i'm surprised it work, the other day I would print, it would crash and print a page of black, wasting all my ink
[05:52] <oldude67> so do you think the next version of ubuntu will be more laptop friendly??
[05:53] <homanj> oldude67: what are you having problems with?
[05:53] <boow> see if you can set it to analog with alsamixer
[05:53] <homanj> oldude67: i am on a laptop and having zero problems
[05:53] <peepsalot> wastrel, do you think if my printer drivers are not correctly set up, that could cause these problems?
[05:53] <peepsalot> it prints ok for some things...
[05:53] <deebul> hoe do i do that?
[05:53] <driz> anyone have an SB450 sound card that works on feisty?  ):
[05:53] <driz> :)
[05:53] <wastrel> i dunno, maybe firefox is just crashy
[05:53] <fabiosarts> who have an nvidia?
[05:53] <IcemanV9> oldude67: what kind of problem do you have with your laptop?? wifi? sound? resolution?
[05:54] <danny3793> how do i use vim? just vim filename in terminal?
[05:54] <boow> open terminal type alsamixer use arrows
[05:54] <oldude67> homanj: well im going to purchase a new laptop and i want to make sure it loads as easy as it did on my home pc
[05:54] <deebul> i believe it's set to analog already
[05:54] <peepsalot> firefox is so crashy that i cry
[05:54] <danny3793> nevermind, i got it :P
[05:54] <RoC_MM> on a fresh install of Feisty, I've used the restricted drivers manager to "enable" the nvidia driver (128mb card) I also enabled desktop effects, but when I watch "top" and move my windows and they wobbly I see a lot of CPU activity.  Shouldn't I see no CPU activity because the graphics card is handling it?
[05:54] <Zelda> get opera
[05:54] <homanj> oldude67: i think you shouldnt have any problems. wifi might be one problem though.
[05:54] <IcemanV9> oldude67: bring your livecd and test it out
[05:54] <zili> how can i update my ubuntu feisy 7.04?
[05:54] <boow> the m key mute unmutes sound or changes a setting in alsamixer
[05:54] <homanj> oldude67: but, i can't say for sure for any laptop
[05:54] <peepsalot> Zelda, does flash 9 work in Opera linux?
[05:55] <homanj> zili: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:55] <homanj> or the update manager in the system menu
[05:55] <IcemanV9> zili: in the terminal, sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude upgrade
[05:55] <danny3793> PingFloyd: nah, i dont see any little extras in there, perhaps its the way the #! /bin/sh is written?
[05:55] <rpdillon> RoC_MM: how much cpu activity?
[05:55] <oldude67> homanj: well i know that there is problems with ati and some wireless cards...was just wondering if they were going to something that the new version was going to help correct?
[05:55] <RoC_MM> Up to 60% on my P4 1.8Ghz. rpdillon
[05:55] <homanj> IcemanV9: whats the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[05:56] <PingFloyd> danny3793: what's the output from ls -l /bin/sh
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> oldude67: that's the manufacturers fault, not ubuntu's
[05:56] <andrewbabcock> sound completely stopped working
[05:56] <wafflepox> grrr
[05:56] <homanj> oldude67: well, amd/ati is planning to release open source drivers. i think wifi support is pretty good, depends on the card.
[05:56] <IcemanV9> homanj: aptitude tracks its dependencies pretty good.
[05:56] <zili> could you give me good update sources websits to me ,i am in china
[05:56] <rpdillon> RoC_MM: if you type "glxinfo | less" nwar the top you should see whether it has "Direct Rendering" or not
[05:56] <wafflepox> does anyone keep a log of this channel?
[05:56] <danny3793> PingFloyd: says its linked with bash "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2007-05-18 23:47 /bin/sh -> /bin/bash"
[05:56] <homanj> oldude67: like hitmanWilly said, not ubuntu's fault.
[05:56] <wafflepox> someone sent me a link yesterday and I can't find it
[05:56] <PingFloyd> danny3793: that looks right
[05:56] <homanj> IcemanV9: i see. never quite haven gotten the difference, thanks.
[05:57] <Fezzler> finally have Ubuntu and Vista HP sharing folders
[05:57] <rpdillon> RoC_MM: if it says "no", some more work needs to be done to enable your graphics card under X
[05:57] <oldude67> IcemanV9: good idea on taking live cd with me...thanks
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> its not the job of an os distributor to hack together drivers with no company support
[05:57] <homanj> oldude67: yes, that is a good idea.
[05:57] <RoC_MM> It says yes rpdillon
[05:57] <rpdillon> hmm
[05:57] <Sam_> hey
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> s/company/manufacturer
[05:58] <RoC_MM> X.org and compiz.real go up from essentially 0%
[05:58] <danny3793> well, let me try and compile without autogen.sh :P, hopefully i dont need it lol
[05:58] <Sam_> anoyne good with dovecot, i just downloaded and insatlled it, but the server wont start, is there something special i have to do first to make server start
[05:58] <zili> my xmms can't play mp3 ,why ?how can i get plugs for it ?
[05:58] <boow> I hate compiling in ubuntu
[05:58] <IcemanV9> zili: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ ... there is china in the list
[05:58] <oldude67> hitmanwilly: ya the os isnt responsible for manufactures, but could try to work with them as well...
[05:58] <gh0zt> sup?
[05:58] <wafflepox> SUP
[05:58] <IcemanV9> s/in/on
[05:59] <boow> finding all those dev packages are murder
[05:59] <danny3793> boow: for me its alot simpler on Ubuntu than Windows, I had all of my libraries, everything, windows still didnt want to compile anything, boy did that piss me off lmao
[05:59] <zili> thanks
[05:59] <Fezzler> Ubuntu on an old 1.2 Athlon will be a sweet file server.    I haven't used Beryl, etc. in Feisty so I can't give you more detail on Feisty, but that is how it was on Edgy
[06:00] <PanzerMKZ> boot from a 18gig scsi
[06:00] <zili> why the xmms can't play with mp3 in ubuntu 7.04
[06:01] <boow> do all reltek sound chip use the same alsa module
[06:01] <PanzerMKZ> another 18gig for space
[06:01] <SmSpillaz> !loco
[06:01] <ubotu> Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[06:01] <driz> fabio, feisty has alsa 1.0.13-3ubuntu1
[06:01] <driz> sound worked fine in edgy
[06:01] <PanzerMKZ> and then a 320
[06:01] <Fezzler> Panzer: I got Ubuntu up and running on the original 20 gig but the 200 gig is going in as slave this weekend
[06:01] <IcemanV9> zili: plugin is not installed to play mp3?
[06:01] <PanzerMKZ> right now only 100base card
[06:01] <hydan> i've got an error message:"E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 46 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:01] <PanzerMKZ> cool
[06:01] <RoC_MM> rpdillon, I enabled "Desktop Effects" directly from Feisty's System menu...I haven't done Beryl....I'm fairly impressed with it + the Restricted Drivers manager though, I'm just puzzled at the CPU usage.
[06:01] <PanzerMKZ> I got the bios limit
[06:01] <PanzerMKZ> so I have to deal with that
[06:01] <driz> i cant' have desktop effects (;
[06:01] <zili> how can i get the plugs ?
[06:01] <Fezzler> Panzer: How are you having the two computers talk to each other
[06:02] <hydan> RoC_MM, how are you measuring your cpu speed?
[06:02] <danny3793> HA! it works!
[06:02] <wafflepox> zili: search in synaptic for xmms, then find anything in there with mp3
[06:02] <boow> zili, apt-get install audacious
[06:02] <rpdillon> RoC_MM: Sorry I don't know more, I can run over to my Feisty nvidia machine and check it out.  I'm on my Mac ATM
[06:02] <PanzerMKZ> right now that box serves four windows boxen
[06:02] <PanzerMKZ> samba
[06:02] <danny3793> PingFloyd: thanks for helpin me switch it off dash :), now its time to learn :D
[06:02] <wastrel> samba
[06:02] <Fezzler> Panzer: May I ask a few samba questions
[06:02] <IcemanV9> hydan: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste your source list
[06:02] <PingFloyd> danny3793: np
[06:02] <jsizzle> why would you put your OS on the smaller of two drives? aren't larger capacity drives faster due to higher data density? plus buffer/cache? seems silly, but I like my boxes to run fast
[06:02] <boow> xmms is outdated use audacious
[06:03] <RoC_MM> rpdillon, what Mac do you have...does it run ubuntu?
[06:03] <PanzerMKZ> cause the computer can't handle the big drive til in boots in the os
[06:03] <IcemanV9> zili: i don't use xmms to play mp3 .. cannot help ya with that
[06:03] <vbabiy> Hey is there any way i can find out if i have full gigabyte support on my network card?
[06:03] <PanzerMKZ> and the speed don't matter
[06:03] <dwight> did anyone answer me.. i got disconnected..
[06:04] <PanzerMKZ> you can ask those samba ?'s
[06:04] <rpdillon> RoC_MM: I just bought a macbook, I'm going to be putting Xubuntu (or maybe Kubuntu) on it this weekend - the BootCamp factor is what I don't know about yet.  Its a MacBook 13.3" 2.0GHz Core 2 Duo
[06:04] <zili> but i have install w32codecs for the system
[06:04] <jsizzle> then invest $20 in an ide controller
[06:04] <chjunior> crdlb, I use gentoo, but I really like the "dark" theme in ubuntu, do you know how to get it?
[06:04] <PanzerMKZ> why
[06:04] <dwight> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21512/ -- is my camera listed here?
[06:04] <zili> what you use with mp3
[06:04] <PanzerMKZ> I got a perfectly good setup
[06:04] <PanzerMKZ> for free
[06:04] <boow> zili, install audacious
[06:04] <hydan> i'm trying to install berylhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21514/
[06:05] <RoC_MM> Cool.
[06:05] <zili> i will try
[06:05] <hydan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21514/
[06:05] <hydan> there we go
[06:05] <PanzerMKZ> now when I get the new stuff up then I won't have that issue
[06:05] <jsizzle> so did I, I got an imac g3 500mhz w/512mb for $0 but I'm still gonna upgrade the hard drive to one with a 16mb cache to get all the speed I can out of it
[06:05] <PanzerMKZ> 1TB file server will be nice
[06:05] <Fezzler> Panzer: First, I agree with you, as a file server on a home network, I don't think speed is an issue
[06:05] <IcemanV9> zili: default music player, rhythmbox ... however, install audacious as boow just said
[06:05] <jsizzle> for $50 it's a cheap enough upgrade
[06:06] <dwight> hydan: what does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like?
[06:06] <zili> it is the sam with xmms,can't play mp3
[06:06] <jsizzle> is audacious any relation to audacity?
[06:06] <driz> ok so
[06:06] <driz> as i was saying
[06:06] <PanzerMKZ> Fezzler: what question did you have
[06:06] <driz> my sb450 sound card does not work on feisty, but it worked on edgy
[06:06] <driz> so, if anyone wants to make it magically work, i will obviously perform sexual favors on you.
[06:06] <PanzerMKZ> the box just sits there sharing files and folding
[06:06] <hydan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21515/
[06:07] <PanzerMKZ> load average stays at 2
[06:07] <boow> apt-get install libmad
[06:07] <PanzerMKZ> prob no
[06:07] <driz> haha
[06:07] <jsizzle> otherwise yuck
[06:07] <PanzerMKZ> prob not rather
[06:07] <driz> yes
[06:07] <driz> i am a very hot girl.
[06:07] <dwight> hydan: remove the word wget... its on the last line...
[06:07] <BlackRayne> My computer restarts after I pick my keyboard layout in the Ubuntu installer
[06:07] <driz> please help me, you sexy smart men.
[06:07] <Fezzler> Panzer: Right now I'm getting to a folder with music on my Vista box.
[06:07] <PanzerMKZ> yea
[06:07] <IcemanV9> hydan: remove the last line :)
[06:07] <peepsalot> lol
[06:07] <dwight> hydan: better yet.. remove the whole line
[06:08] <PanzerMKZ> right like I believe that for a sec
[06:08] <the_giver> hi
[06:08] <Fezzler> Panzer: I can click on song and play with Amarok.  But "Authorization Dialog" pops up
[06:08] <the_giver> what are the known issues with ubuntu 64
[06:08] <hydan> IcemanV9, dwight, don't i need that line if i'm going to be downloading beryl?
[06:08] <PanzerMKZ> I don't touch vista with a pole