[12:49] <mjr> Patrick`, one would presume that only the data track gets ripped
[12:49] <Patrick`> huh.
[12:49] <Blinker> tripppy: I couldn't honestly say. i havent had a need for that kind of application yet. have you tried KDE's bluetooth app?t
[12:50] <DJAdmiral> Patrick': http://www.codeproject.com/tools/Bin2Iso.asp anyway
[12:50] <Patrick`> mjr: well, the way I see it an iso is just what you get when you dd /dev/cdrom0 (or whatever) into a file
[12:50] <Patrick`> I guess I have about 70 blanks left, I can just use one
[12:50] <tripppy> Blinker, mmm. i thinks it the same as GNOME's BT apps.
[12:50] <taavi> djadmiral - did you get answer how to play avis?
[12:51] <mjr> Patrick`, indeed it is, if the CD contains an ISO-9660 format data track. But dd won't get you audio tracks.
[12:51] <DJAdmiral> taavi: no not yet
[12:51] <taavi> i have the same problem
[12:51] <Patrick`> mjr: aha, I see
[12:51] <mjr> Patrick`, you need an audio ripper application for that, like cdparanoia (or a frontend)
[12:51] <DJAdmiral> Patrick': found a linux version of bin2iso: http://users.eastlink.ca/~doiron/bin2iso/linux
[12:51] <Blinker> !avi
[12:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:51] <Patrick`> DJAdmiral: if that mjr says is true I'd be as well ripping it, I'll see what happens but I don't think it'll work
[12:51] <Blinker> !easyubuntu
[12:51] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:51] <Blinker> also works for media support
[12:52] <taavi> i've installed all the gstreamer codecs, divx codecs and more but still only avidemux shows avis files
[12:52] <Patrick`> Pfft, don't make the helper bot tiptoe around the truth
[12:52] <tomveens> hi
[12:52] <Patrick`> easyubuntu automates the installation of proprietary and sometimes illegal-in-america code
[12:52] <Patrick`> I totally condone it in every way :D
[12:52] <Blinker> Patrick`: ^5
[12:52] <DJAdmiral> Blinker, taavi: I used easyubuntu and the restricted formats wiki page. I STILL can't play avis.
[12:53] <Patrick`> DJAdmiral: what player is it?
[12:53] <Patrick`> for some reason the default player never works for me
[12:53] <DJAdmiral> Blinker, taavi: help? is there another program i should use to play avis?
[12:53] <Patrick`> I do it through vlc or mplayer
[12:53] <survivor> errrr.
[12:53] <Blinker> default player worked for everything here, even .tob's
[12:53] <survivor> So will there be a day when there's only ONE ubuntu distri again?
[12:53] <Blinker> after the update, that is
[12:53] <survivor> I thought that was a great plus back then.
[12:53] <survivor> :/
[12:53] <DJAdmiral> Patrick', Blinker, taavi: I've used xine, gxine, and totem
[12:53] <taavi> i used vlc, installed easyubuntu, still cant
[12:53] <Patrick`> totem, that's the one
[12:53] <Patrick`> I don't like it, it never works
[12:54] <DJAdmiral> taavi: are you able to play avis?
[12:54] <Patrick`> and mplayer introduces a short audio delay into every file it opens
[12:54] <Patrick`> vlc works for me
[12:54] <nikin> survivor :D hope not, i need both  ubuntu and xubuntu
[12:54] <taavi> djadmiral: no
[12:54] <survivor> How comes?
[12:54] <kidbuntu> help please. how do install windows xp using vmware
[12:54] <DJAdmiral> Patrick': the only thing i ever played with it was the Nelson Mandela example video lol
[12:54] <Patrick`> this is the beauty of open source - people say that things lack polish, but because there's like 3 of everything, you'll find something
[12:54] <Patrick`> DJAdmiral: well of course the sample video will work ;)
[12:54] <Patrick`> that's about all that'll work
[12:55] <DJAdmiral> Patrick': so true lol
[12:55] <survivor> Patrick: Actually, I think that's not beautiful at all :(
[12:55] <survivor> (Guess which kind of computer/OS I use.)
[12:55] <taavi> is it a problem for many? cant play avis?
[12:55] <Patrick`> ok, let's say all the competitors to mplayer died in a fire
[12:55] <Patrick`> what happens in the fringe cases where mplayer doesn't work?
[12:56] <DJAdmiral> dangit, i'm downloads 9.7 gigs of avi videos and yet i can't play them. is there anybody here who can play avi files at all?
[12:56] <Patrick`> having less competition doesn't make the mplayer devs suddenly be able to buy one of every hardware type
[12:56] <jahshua> hey peeps
[12:56] <survivor> That's why I pay for software :)
[12:56] <jahshua> anyone have a link on using Opera with Dapper please ?
[12:56] <finalbeta> I read their finally will be a linux driver for NTFS that will be stable to read / write. it's beta now.
[12:56] <taavi> djadmiral: same question..
[12:56] <sishgupta> avis work for me
[12:56] <Patrick`> finalbeta: yeah, the drawback is it uses fuse so the performance is ... eh
[12:57] <survivor> But I guess I'm not really in the ubuntu target audience. Just getting it for somewhere else :
[12:57] <survivor> :)
[12:57] <survivor> (Or in the Linux target audience to start with.)
[12:57] <DJAdmiral> jahshua: you can download and install opera through the add/remove programs interface
[12:57] <nikin> Survivor: what kind of audience are you?
[12:57] <DJAdmiral> sishgupta: how do you play avi files?
[12:57] <finalbeta> Patrick`, yeah, I've read. But I guess I can live with that, altho 10 minutes to write 2Gb is a bit long.
[12:57] <DJAdmiral> !opera
[12:57] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked.
[12:57] <sishgupta> mplayer or vlc
[12:58] <agresor> guys i have NTFS mounted partition in /media/hda6    but it have permission READ-ONLY. How to change permission of that partition ?????
[12:58] <Patrick`> finalbeta: yeah, with ntfs it's mostly reading anyway
[12:58] <nrdb> How do I tell grub that I want to boot windows XP with a partition as the D drive?
[12:58] <Patrick`> so read it ro
[12:58] <jahshua> cool, thanks DJAdmiral.
[12:58] <sishgupta> or totem
[12:58] <DJAdmiral> np jahshua
[12:58] <Patrick`> agresor: you can't without risking damage to the files
[12:58] <nikin> !ntfs
[12:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:58] <agresor> Patrick`,  anyway.. tell me :)
[12:58] <Dixon85> I need to disable SELinux. How can I do that?
[12:58] <finalbeta> Patrick`, atleast external harddrives can be formatted in NTFS, that is something many users will need. Sinse you can't just ext3 them because they need to be usable on pretty much every system.
[12:58] <DJAdmiral> sishgupta: totem doesn't play my avis, but i'll try mplayer and vlc. i'll go download them now. thanks
[12:59] <DJAdmiral> !selinux
[12:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about selinux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:59] <zugu> is aptana WYSIWYG, like Dreamweaver?
[12:59] <DJAdmiral> !SELinux
[12:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about SELinux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:59] <Patrick`> finalbeta: true, but fat32 for thumbdrives
[12:59] <Bassetts> can someone help me, im trying to restore grub and the guide i found is not working
[12:59] <sishgupta> if totem doesnt work i dont think mplayer will and vlc prolly wont
[12:59] <taavi> djadmiral: tried them both, still dont play avis
[12:59] <sishgupta> have you used automatix?
[12:59] <agresor> chmod dont work.. i tryed to change permission like that
[12:59] <agresor> ;\
[12:59] <survivor> nikin: I like polish and out-of-the-box workingness, I HATE editing text-based configuration files, I hate compiling, I need Photoshop and a C++ IDE with a well-integrated debugger to breathe.
[12:59] <sishgupta> you have to install some packages from automatix first
[12:59] <survivor> So ubuntu is the closest distribution to my needs, but not more.
[12:59] <[b] urk> Dixon85, i think it is something with the setenforce command
[12:59] <[b] urk> try man setenforce
[12:59] <finalbeta> Patrick`, for small filesystems that will probably stay the standard for years indeed. MP3 players etc also want a simple filesystem I guess.
[01:00] <DJAdmiral> sishgupta: i have automatix, but i used easyubuntu  to install the multimedia codecs.
[01:00] <agresor> guys i have NTFS mounted partition in /media/hda6    but it have permission READ-ONLY. How to change permission of that partition ?????
[01:00] <DJAdmiral> sishgupta: that was after i tried the restrictedformats wiki page.
[01:00] <Patrick`> yeha, it's just a pain that there's no journalling fs writable from all of them
[01:00] <agresor> anyone pleaseeeeeeeeee?
[01:00] <DJAdmiral> !ntfs
[01:00] <Dixon85> [b] urk: no manual entry for setenforce :(
[01:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:00] <toodles> sobersabre, Thanks for all your help. Unfortunately I have to go, and need the machine up and running. I know that its not the solution, but I'm under a bit of time pressure, so I have to do a reinstall. I really appreciate the effort and help though. Thank you kindly :-)
[01:00] <ccooke> agresor: wait a few months until the new version of the ntfs driver becomes stable
[01:00] <fortr> my laptop refuses to boot from cdrom even when that is specified in the bios. is there another way for me to run the ubuntu livecd? can i boot with a floppy and start the cd from there or something?
[01:00] <nikin> survivor: then just use windows
[01:00] <[b] urk> Dixon85, google
[01:01] <survivor> nikin: No, OS X. But Windows is the runner-up for me :)
[01:01] <Dixon85> [b] urk: I'm googling for one hour :(
[01:01] <ccooke> agresor: NTFS is a complicated filesystem and MS have not released the specifications necessary to make writing a driver at all easy
[01:01] <agresor> ccesario,  i have 60 GB on that partition. and i cant put there anything
[01:01] <agresor> and cant delete there
[01:01] <agresor> :((((((((((((
[01:01] <DJAdmiral> agresor: microsoft refuses to be co-operative on how to read/write NTFS partition data
[01:02] <nikin> surcivor: OSX has its own limitations to
[01:02] <DJAdmiral> agresor: so atm dapper can read NTFS, but not write to it.
[01:02] <agresor> hmmmmm
[01:02] <nikin> yes it works out of the box
[01:02] <ccooke> agresor: As I said, there will be a new driver supporting full read/write access.  I'd be surprised if it wasn't in Edgy+1
[01:03] <agresor> now.. how to format drive ?
[01:03] <agresor> cfdisk?
[01:03] <ccooke> agresor: first, back up the data you want
[01:03] <taavi> DJAdmiral - what if the avi probelm is not concearning codecs..?
[01:03] <agresor> ccesario,  done
[01:03] <cavediver> Seems like gnome-cups-add is crashing when adding a printer. Seems like a known bug. However I can't find a fix
[01:03] <agresor> what next /
[01:03] <Patrick`> hoo boy
[01:03] <DJAdmiral> agresor: maybe. i think i'll just try automatix first.
[01:03] <nikin> taavi: mybe media layer...
[01:03] <Patrick`> agresor: back up everything on the same disk as well, just in case
[01:03] <Patrick`> be prepared to lose the entire disk
[01:03] <taavi> nikin - whats that?
[01:03] <ccooke> agresor: you need to change the type of the file system. You can use fdisk or gparted for that.
[01:04] <fortr> my laptop refuses to boot from cdrom even when that is specified in the bios. is there another way for me to run the ubuntu livecd? can i boot with a floppy and start the cd from there or something?
[01:04] <agresor> hmmm tell me full command in fdisk
[01:04] <ccooke> you need to set the type to '83' ('Linux')
[01:04] <agresor> its ok  cfdisk
[01:04] <agresor> brb.. :)
[01:04] <nikin> taavi: dont know how these things work in ubuntu, but i think there must be something like Directshow in windows, and that   can suck
[01:04] <agresor> so i will format it with ext3 ?
[01:04] <DJAdmiral> fortr: not that i know of any such boot disk, but do floppies run with bios?
[01:04] <fortr> DJAdmiral: yes
[01:05] <survivor> nikin: Well, I admit that when I get to the limitations, I might actually start apt-getting and compiling stuff. But in general, I can live with the few limitations (like the Finder not being 100% cool)
[01:05] <johlin> I just installed new fglrx-drivers, the newest version but not apt-get upgrade says that fglrx-kernel-2.6.15-23-386 depends on xorg-driver-fglrx with an older version than the one I have. Will this fix itself after a reboot?
[01:05] <taavi> nikin: thanks, but do you know anything about Directshow?
[01:05] <ccooke> agresor: Yes, ext3. I would suggest using something lioke gparted (which you'll need to install)
[01:05] <DJAdmiral> fortr: there is something i know of
[01:06] <DJAdmiral> fortr: usually whenever my cd-rom drive wouldn't boot directly from pc startup i would usually pop in my win95 boot disk and boot the cd from there.
[01:06] <survivor> Actually, with the BSD kernel and all that other open source stuff under the hood, I think of OS X as being a commercial but polished *nix distri :)
[01:06] <Otacon22> how I configure network by dchp in shell?
[01:06] <DJAdmiral> fortr: let me try and look for an appropriate disk anyway
[01:07] <fortr> DJAdmiral: okay, thank you noble sir
[01:07] <ccooke> agresor: Install gparted, then tun it from System -> Administration -> Gnome Partition Editor
[01:07] <ccooke> agresor: okay?
[01:07] <DJAdmiral> fortr: :P don't thank me as yet, haven't found anything
[01:07] <fortr> DJAdmiral: heheh
[01:07] <Nameeater> where are sshd logs kept in dapper?
[01:07] <nikin> survivor: its about the way of thinking, I use Gimp, Code in Lazarus/FPC, drink 10 Coffe a day, have 3 PC-s for 2 men, uptime every second of my life, and refuse the idea of Expensive Applications and TCPA
[01:07] <taavi> DJAdmiral - any update on avis?
[01:08] <DJAdmiral> taavi: Automatix is booting
[01:08] <stefg> Otacon22: you want a dhcp lease? sudo dhclient. You want to configure the NiC? Edit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:08] <nikin> taavi: not deep, but i sucked once with it :D
[01:08] <DJAdmiral> taavi: it's currently running it's autoscript.
[01:08] <nikin> thats all
[01:08] <taavi> :P
[01:08] <cavediver> Noone have the gnome-cups-add problem ?
[01:08] <TheSheep> Is there kqemu for ubuntu?
[01:09] <taavi> DJAdmiral - automatix is what? :P
[01:09] <stefg> !automatix
[01:09] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:09] <stefg> !easyubuntu
[01:09] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:10] <kidbuntu> can someone help me please. i'm having problems with regards of install vmware on ubuntu. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19466
[01:11] <DJAdmiral> fortr: i'm having trouble finding such a disk but i'll keep looking.
[01:11] <nrdb_> how do I setup grub so when winXP boots it uses a partition as the D drive?
[01:12] <[cro] smiley> hi guys
[01:12] <survivor> nikin: Well, I'm more the mineral water type of person, but I see where you are going at ;)
[01:12] <stefg> kidbuntu: sudo aptitude install vmware-player-kernel-modules
[01:12] <DJAdmiral> fortr: no luck really.
[01:12] <kidbuntu> stefg: thnks i'll look into it
[01:13] <DJAdmiral> taavi: automatix is taking millenia to boot.
[01:13] <taavi> djadmiral: how did you install it? i cant understand..
[01:14] <DJAdmiral> taavi: It BOOTED!
[01:14] <taavi> dj : wohoo!!!
[01:14] <taavi> dj: tell me if it works ...
[01:14] <nikin> survivor: where?
[01:14] <DJAdmiral> taavi: www.getautomatix.com
[01:14] <survivor> With the state of mind thing.
[01:15] <nikin> survivor :D so we all have our way... its not better, or worse
[01:15] <cinex> I installed ubuntu for the first time today; then ( cos i didnt getkubuntu) I installed kde. it was all looking dead nice; as soon as i installed my nvidia drivers all the fonts became way to small and ugly; To fix that i lowered the resolution to 1024x768 ( a depth of 24 means?) now it all looks ugly; is there an easy way to get everything nice again or do i have to edit everything by hand, one a ta time
[01:15] <nikin> Survivor: so why arent you using OSX then?
[01:16] <cinex> i think i'd rather uninstall the graphcs cadr
[01:16] <cinex> card
[01:16] <survivor> nikin: Hmm, I am :) Just getting ubuntu to test my library on Linux.
[01:16] <nikin> survivor: what kind of lib are you working on?
[01:17] <survivor> Game development (www.raschke.de/julian/gosu)
[01:17] <survivor> Development kind of got slow during the last time, though :/
[01:19] <danf_1979> Hi
[01:19] <DJAdmiral> taavi: i selected the codecs to install on automatix as well as a few players. im crossing my fingers.
[01:19] <danf_1979> Is there a way to mount /var in the swap partition? Im on the live cd now, and I want to do some tests, but Im running out of space
[01:20] <taavi> dj: :)
[01:20] <danf_1979> I would like to mount /var on my disk swap partition
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> danf_1979: no
[01:20] <danf_1979> grrrr
[01:20] <Lioda> hi
[01:20] <jahshua> !restricted formats
[01:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:20] <Lioda> automatix can be work with Edgy ?
[01:20] <fortr> DJAdmiral: did you find any disks?
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> Lioda: best to ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:21] <Lioda> ok
[01:21] <kidbuntu> whats the problem of my system if i got this message "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "
[01:21] <danf_1979> what about mounting / on swap? no either?
[01:21] <kidbuntu> i just installed ubuntu 6.06 LTS using a live CD that ubuntu delivered to me
[01:21] <Patrick`> kidbuntu: have you tried manually running 'dpkg --configure -a' ?
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> danf_1979: no, what are you trying to do?
[01:21] <kidbuntu> Patrick` not really
[01:21] <Patrick`> try doing that
[01:22] <DJAdmiral> fortr: i said i had no luck
[01:22] <kidbuntu> Patrick` i cant even use synaptic and update manager now
[01:22] <danf_1979> Im testing a python program that installs and configures various severs> apache, postfix, etc... but I dont know what happened to my qemu. I get kernel panic, so I thought about using the live cd to do my tests
[01:22] <Dimensions> guys .. is there any usb Modem you know about could be used with ubuntu ?
[01:23] <Patrick`> kidbuntu: just open a terminal and type that command in
[01:23] <danf_1979> but I run out of space when downloading the packages
[01:23] <danf_1979> :>
[01:23] <hs_125> USB modem!
[01:23] <accleo> Has anybody else the problem of xgl not being able to shutdown/reboot?
[01:23] <Patrick`> usb modems are bad
[01:23] <DJAdmiral> taavi: nothing really for me to do while this thing downloads, so erm, i'm going to do some KSudoku lol
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> accleo: yeah this is a known issue with xgl
[01:24] <Dimensions> sorry just to correct my question any USB GPRS modem supported by Ubuntu ?
[01:24] <kidbuntu> Patrick` this what showed http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19467
[01:24] <jahshua> whats the story with getting Flash player to work on Dapper?
[01:24] <blup|patrick> hi
[01:24] <taavi> dj: have fun :)
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> !flash > jahshua
[01:24] <danf_1979> I only have 196MB to download+compile+install
[01:24] <blup|patrick> has someone an idea how to install eclipse 3.2 libs
[01:24] <blup|patrick> those whcih are demanded bei azureus
[01:24] <Patrick`> kidbuntu: ah.
[01:25] <Patrick`> kidbuntu: does it do the same thing when you try again?
[01:25] <kidbuntu> Patrick` yep
[01:25] <DJAdmiral> out of curiosity, is there already an edgy eft beta available?
[01:25] <danf_1979> damn, I think Ill erase some stuff from /usr
[01:25] <jan1024188> how to login gui as root?
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> blup|patrick: you can just download the linux package of azureus and run it. You need to make sure java is installed and working first. To setup Java, see !java
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> danf_1979: ermm, no. Bad idea.
[01:25] <Patrick`> jan1024188: I don't think you can
[01:25] <blup|patrick> fyrestrtr: well.. each start
[01:25] <blup|patrick> i get that annoying message, that i have to update libswt to run properly
[01:26] <blup|patrick> i have to use that latest beta, coze that azurues from the repos has a annyoing bug
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> DJAdmiral: I think there is a very early beta (many bugs) available as a cd image. Ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:26] <accleo> fyrestrtr: thank you! I think I've read sthg about, but any solution purposed, some page maybe?
[01:26] <danf_1979> uninstall openoffice!
[01:26] <danf_1979> yeah!
[01:26] <blup|patrick> in the final version the sliding notifie on the down right side of the screen cant be clicked away
[01:26] <Patrick`> that'll clear some space
[01:26] <DJAdmiral> jan1024188: i think you need to do 'sudo passwd root' first
[01:26] <blup|patrick> fixed in the latest beta, but now i ahve to install libswt3.2
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> blup|patrick: just download the version from repos, download the package from azureus.sf.net, and then move Azureus.jar from the downloaded package to /usr/share/azureus
[01:27] <kidbuntu> Patrick` can you help me with it??
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> blup|patrick: yeah, its a known bug.
[01:27] <blup|patrick> i did
[01:27] <blup|patrick> and NOW IT DEMANDS UPGRADING eclipse to swt 3.2
[01:27] <Patrick`> kidbuntu: hmm.
[01:27] <blup|patrick> crap, is my english that bad :|
[01:28] <Patrick`> no idea, I'm afraid
[01:28] <Patrick`> I've never used the vmware player so I don't know what might be going wrong
[01:28] <danf_1979> After unpacking 183MB will be freed.
[01:28] <danf_1979> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]  Y
[01:28] <danf_1979> heheh
[01:28] <fyrestrtr> Patrick`: just download the eclipse archive, extract the swt.jar file, and copy it over to /usr/share/azureus -- that *should* work
[01:28] <Patrick`> blup|patrick: what he said
[01:29] <fyrestrtr> ah sorry about that
[01:29] <Patrick`> just makin' sure the right person gets hilighted
[01:29] <Patrick`> perfectly understandable
[01:29] <livingdaylig> anyone seen Ubuntu LXF edition?
[01:29] <fyrestrtr> ?? what's that?
[01:30] <mwe> lxf?
[01:30] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: is it really necessary that you have to install VMWare Player to get Windoze  XP? Can't you use a dualboot or something?
[01:30] <livingdaylig> LInux Fomat
[01:30] <livingdaylig> Linux magazine
[01:30] <mwe> no
[01:30] <livingdaylig> anyone seen the ubuntu edition?
[01:30] <data-pata> any gdesklets devs here who could help me out with a problem?
[01:30] <livingdaylig> They are lovin Ubuntu
[01:30] <fyrestrtr> are you sure its not just the dvd? Linux User magazine packaged a ubuntu dvd in their august issue.
[01:30] <tich> has anyone used a program called comix? it can't open my cbr files, am i missing some vital step?
[01:31] <livingdaylig> fyrestrtr: no they dedicated 8 pages to ubuntu
[01:31] <livingdaylig> They are lovin Ubuntu
[01:31] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: using dual boot doesnt help me also. everytime i'm in the middle of the installation of windows xp my screen turns into blue and installation is exited suddenly. restarting my computer. and there it is. it shows up again
[01:31] <mwe> livingdaylig: In reality there is only one Ubuntu. the different ones just install a different set of packages by default
[01:31] <fyrestrtr> ah so they did a review :) Good good. Linux User also had a good review of Ubuntu, plus they packaged the dvd with the mag.
[01:31] <livingdaylig> i don't know if it is a uk publication only
[01:31] <blup|patrick> fyrestrtr: usr share azurues?
[01:31] <blup|patrick> ok... btu there is only a plugin folder
[01:32] <livingdaylig> mwe: you mean there is only one linux ?
[01:32] <blup|patrick> shall i put that lib in that plugin folder?
[01:32] <mwe> livingdaylig: no
[01:32] <fetale> Hello
[01:32] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: did you install ubuntu or winxp first?
[01:32] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: i think theres something wrong with the ubuntu live CD. the first time i used 6.06 LTS is i directly updated it from breezy 5.10. and it really worked just fine
[01:32] <fetale> I don't suppose anybody has any luck with getting BCM4318 Wireless cards to work
[01:32] <livingdaylig> maybe if israel and Lebanon shared Ubuntu there would be peace
[01:32] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: i installed xp first]
[01:32] <fetale> I've found a few how-tos
[01:32] <fetale> but to no avail
[01:32] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: hmm.
[01:33] <mwe> livingdaylig: ubuntu. kubuntu, edubuntu, unbunte. they are the same but install a different set of packages by default
[01:33] <livingdaylig> I'm loving google Earth
[01:33] <kidbuntu> I think i have to restart from the beggining again.
[01:33] <livingdaylig> mwe: lol, i know
[01:33] <mwe> livingdaylig: ok
[01:33] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: upgrading from breezy to dapper by the live cd has issues, using the alternate cd would have been better.
[01:33] <mwe> livingdaylig: I'll stop playing clever about it then ;)
[01:34] <livingdaylig> mwe: actually, i don't know unbunte!
[01:34] <livingdaylig> mwe: no, don't stop!
[01:34] <livingdaylig>  8-)
[01:34] <fyrestrtr> blup|patrick: /usr/lib/java -- sorry, wrong path.
[01:34] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral:  i think it really is
[01:34] <blup|patrick> fyrestrtr: i tried that first
[01:34] <blup|patrick> ubuntu didnt found that
[01:34] <blup|patrick> doesnt work
[01:34] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade
[01:34] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[01:34] <fetale> nobody has had any luck with Broadcom 4318 wireless cards?
[01:35] <fyrestrtr> blup|patrick: that's because the path is hardcoded in the installer file, you'll have to do some tweaking if you are comfortable with it.
[01:35] <mwe> fetale: it probably works with ndiswrapper if there is not a linux native driver for it
[01:35] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: but personally i'd save myself all the hassle and format my hard disk to an FAT32 or NTFS partition, install winxp, then install ubuntu with the alternate cd and partition properly during the ubuntu installation.
[01:35] <fetale> I've tried ndiswrapper
[01:35] <fetale> no dice
[01:35] <DJAdmiral> taavi, you there?
[01:35] <blup|patrick> fyrestrtr: ya... now were getting closer...
[01:35] <accleo> !
[01:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:35] <fetale> it finds the hardware
[01:35] <blup|patrick> fyrestrtr: HOW do i tweak that
[01:35] <fyrestrtr> blup|patrick: gksudo gedit /usr/bin/azureus -- and you'll see the path is hardcoded, just adjust it ;) Then, when it works, write a wiki entry for it.
[01:36] <fetale> but the light on my laptop doesn't go off
[01:36] <fetale> *on
[01:36] <livingdaylig> what would be amazing is a version of google earth with live stream of evrey inch  of the planet
[01:36] <mwe> fetale: did you do everything correctly, using the recomended windows driver? not any driver will work
[01:36] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: when shipping an ubuntu CD. do they only ship Live CD's??
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> !broadcom
[01:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:36] <fetale> mwe: I used the one from my manufacturer
[01:36] <fetale> nothing
[01:37] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: yes, they only ship desktop cds
[01:37] <mwe> fetale: it's not nesecarely the right one to use
[01:37] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: you'll have to download and burn an alternate cd.
[01:37] <fetale> then I used the one from a how to (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177)
[01:37] <mwe> fetale: and the status light doesn't work here though the card works fine
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> mwe: what is ubunte ?
[01:37] <mwe> fyrestrtr: a typo
[01:37] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: thanks for making me remember that there was an issues with live cd's
[01:37] <fetale> mwe: it won't show up under network manager
[01:37] <accleo> !me
[01:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about me - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> mwe: oh, for a second I thought it was ubuntu with e17 :(
[01:38] <mwe> fetale: you need to configure it from the command line
[01:38] <livingdaylig> i just bought a viewseven tft 19 widescreen monitor
[01:38] <fetale> mwe:but according to ndiswrapper the hardware is ok
[01:38] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: basically i just had to download the iso image file, and burn it using CDBurnerXP SE Pro or some program like that i think
[01:38] <mwe> fetale: then it probably is
[01:38] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: i think i'll go back to breezy and perform an upgrade again. coz i dont have an Burner
[01:38] <blup|patrick> fyrestrtr: thx i ll try that :)
[01:38] <mwe> fetale: what does ifconfig -a say or iwconfig?
[01:38] <fetale> mwe: right, ndiswrapper -i ... did that
[01:38] <blup|patrick> thats the first guess that may help :) :)
[01:38] <mwe> fetale: that's a good start
[01:39] <accleo> !gmail
[01:39] <ubotu> gmail is a webmail service. For information on using it with Evolution see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[01:39] <fetale> mwe: it's not showing on ifconig -a
[01:39] <mwe> fetale: what about iwconfig?
[01:39] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: i really wouldn't do that. try a friend who has a burner?
[01:39] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: is there a possibility that my screen would turn to blue and exit windows installation suddenly if my windows xp cd has defects like scratches or something
[01:40] <fetale> mwe: "no wireless extensions." all accross the board
[01:40] <mwe> fetale: lsmod|grep ndis?
[01:40] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: possibly.
[01:40] <fyrestrtr> kidbuntu: BSOD is generally hardware related.
[01:40] <fetale> mwe: 1 sec...
[01:40] <kidbuntu> fyrestrtr: whats BSOD??
[01:40] <fetale> mwe: what is that supposed to do?
[01:40] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: Blue Screen of Death
[01:40] <AlexC_> blue screen of death .. muhaha
[01:40] <mwe> fetale: show if the kernel module is loaded
[01:41] <accleo> !ftp
[01:41] <mwe> fetale: if it doesn't show anything it's not
[01:41] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[01:41] <DJAdmiral> I loved the live BSOD video
[01:41] <fetale> mwe: hmmm... nothing came up
[01:41] <DJAdmiral> has anybody else seen that live BSOD video?
[01:41] <mwe> fetale: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, then iwconfig again
[01:41] <kidbuntu> fyrestrtr: so you mean to say there's something wrong with my RAM or HARDDRIVE?
[01:41] <data-pata> no one here who's good at gdesklets scripting?
[01:41] <blup|patrick> fyrestrtr: problem is, in that package azurues downloaded is no swt-gtk.jar
[01:41] <AlexC_> accleo: it's ashame Linux doesn't haev a good GUI FTP client really
[01:41] <blup|patrick> there is only a swt.jar
[01:41] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: again, no.
[01:42] <fetale> mwe: unfortunately not
[01:42] <DJAdmiral> AlexC: Nautilus can browse through FTP servers
[01:42] <mwe> dmesg
[01:42] <mwe> fetale: dmesg, does it show anything regarding ndis near the end?
[01:42] <fetale> mwe: nothing
[01:43] <mwe> fetale: did the module load?
[01:43] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: do you really have to use winxp btw?
[01:43] <mwe> fetale: lsmod|grep ndis again
[01:43] <fetale> mwe: not according to the command line
[01:43] <AlexC_> DJAdmiral: Browse, yes - but I mean gFTP hursts your hands and gives you RSI because it has no Tree View, KBear well ... just doesn't upload,
[01:43] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: so theres nothing wrong with my hardware stuffs right??
[01:43] <mwe> fetale: that probably means it loaded
[01:43] <fetale> mwe: oh, okay
[01:43] <mwe> fetale: lsmod|grep ndis again
[01:43] <xapaho> hi! is there any video conf app that supports hebrew ? amsn does not seem to be a killer in this regards
[01:43] <mwe> fetale: does it show?
[01:44] <DJAdmiral> AlexC_: ah
[01:44] <fetale> mwe: yes ndiswrapper           227136  0
[01:44] <fetale> usbcore               153276  5 ndiswrapper,usbhid,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
[01:44] <AlexC_> DJAdmiral: yeh - that's what I was going to code my own FTP Client soon
[01:44] <mwe> fetale: ok
[01:44] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: i suppose not. probably the winxp cd is terrible. but microsoft is
[01:44] <DJAdmiral> AlexC_: I'll beta test it!!!
[01:44] <mwe> fetale: that's it?
[01:45] <fetale> mwe; that is all it gave me
[01:45] <mrDaniel> how can I format a usb-stick under ubuntu?
[01:45] <blup|patrick> fyrestrtr: it doesnt work
[01:45] <mwe> fetale: I gotta go. I'll help you later if you're here. I'm sure it's possible to make it work
[01:45] <kidbuntu> Patrick` hey i have some questions. does this error messages that i showed you are the cause of using the CD for installation that ubuntu shipped to me?
[01:45] <mrDaniel> under Computer->Right_Click i can't find 'format' or anythink else
[01:45] <taavi> dj: any luck?
[01:45] <AlexC_> DJAdmiral: sure =) I've gotta learn C++ First, i'm mostly a Web Developer you see
[01:45] <fetale> mwe: thanks for the help
[01:45] <DJAdmiral> taavi: it's still downloading.
[01:45] <fetale> mwe:this card has a history of being problematic
[01:45] <taavi> dj: ok
[01:45] <DJAdmiral> AlexC_: there's a python book that comes with ubuntu
[01:46] <AlexC_> nah, I don't like Python
[01:46] <DJAdmiral> AlexC_: Python is the preferred language of ubuntu.
[01:46] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: so my problem with ubuntu is solved then??
[01:46] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: er, no
[01:46] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: did you check the cd integrity?
[01:47] <AlexC_> DJAdmiral: really? I keep thinking Python is like ..... not the best language in the world, C/C++ just seems Solid and more of a programming language, Python seems small ( Which it isn't )
[01:47] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: if the error didnt shows up on installing vmware. it shows up on other application while installing it.
[01:47] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: Whats integrity??
[01:47] <kidbuntu> heheheh
[01:48] <DJAdmiral> AlexC_: yep it is, C/C++ is pretty good on windoze though. i used to program Delphi games on Windoze. i made 1945 lol
[01:48] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: something you don't have :P no seriously, did you check cd integrity when the CD booted up?
[01:48] <fyrestrtr> DJAdmiral: where did you get that info?
[01:48] <AlexC_> really? cool - so you think I should code it in Python and not C/C++ ?
[01:48] <DJAdmiral> taavi: 90% of the download is done supposedly
[01:49] <DJAdmiral> fyrestrtr: what info? could you be specific please?
[01:49] <taavi> dj: what did you choose to install?
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> the info that python is the preferred language of ubuntu
[01:49] <taavi> dj: on the avi side
[01:49] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: i'm not really good in english okay. so whats integrity with regards to the CD?? is it the defects?
[01:49] <DJAdmiral> taavi: MPlayer, Vlc, and codecs i think
[01:49] <DJAdmiral> fyrestrtr: it's written in the official ubuntu documentation. let me find that page
[01:49] <taavi> dj: hmm, i've tried mplayer and vlc, didnt show avi...
[01:50] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: when the cd booted, did it show you any options?
[01:50] <DJAdmiral> fyrestrtr: system documentation is loading
[01:50] <stefg> !info w32codecs
[01:50] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in dapper
[01:51] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: well...? yeah. i followed the options. i made the partitions
[01:51] <DJAdmiral> fyrestrtr: Ubuntu Desktop Guide --> common tasks --> programming. it's there.
[01:52] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: as soon as your live cd booted, what options did you see?
[01:52] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: the error showed while installing windows xp was. a Kernel Module it said. it said check my hardware blahbalh blah
[01:52] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: you mean the windows??
[01:52] <jahshua> ok i have followed all the instructions on the restricted formats page and i cant get flash to play in firefox, can anyone help me out please?
[01:53] <DJAdmiral> jahshua: try easyubuntu.
[01:53] <DJAdmiral> worked for me.
[01:53] <fyrestrtr> jahshua: did you follow the instructions that talked specifically about the flash plugin for firefox?
[01:53] <jahshua> !easyubuntu
[01:53] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:54] <salah> ubuntu have a bittorrent tracker enabled as a service default. why?
[01:54] <fyrestrtr> salah: because there is a bittorrent client that comes with it.
[01:54] <stefg> !bum
[01:54] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[01:55] <salah> and therefore it's necessary to use a tracker with it too, enabled?
[01:55] <keb> hi, my partition on wich i had my grub became raw, i have important documents on that partition, can i get them back?
[01:55] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: no i mean what's the first thing you see when you start the ubuntu live cd.
[01:55] <Ben_> hello
[01:56] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: choose how to install it. the options are. install ubuntu. start ubuntu on safe graphics mode. memory test. boot from harddisk
[01:56] <xapaho> hi again -- trying to migrate an hebrew user from windows to 6.06 -- all we miss now is an msn client with webcam support, but amsn does not seem to take hebrew (based on X, not gtk ?). what's your advice ?
[01:56] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: no other options? no other options at all?
[01:57] <fyrestrtr> xapaho: ekiga, or wait for the next version of gaim
[01:57] <DJAdmiral> taavi: the install completed, i'm going to check it out now.
[01:57] <taavi> dj: thumb up
[01:57] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: i didnt look quite at those at all. but there are other options at the bottome like he F1 F2. for whatever to choose
[01:58] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: there should be an option called check cd integrity
[01:58] <xapaho> fyrestrtr: thanks
[01:58] <jan1024188> can u download and use debian packages?
[01:58] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: for linux. i think i didnt realy saw that option
[01:59] <DJAdmiral> jan1024188: certainly. use the deb command to do si
[01:59] <DJAdmiral> jan1024188: ubuntu is actually a debian based distro :)
[01:59] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: i dunno then. that option is on my live cd.
[01:59] <gord> jan1024188, its not recomended, allthough ubuntu is based on debian it is not exsacly the same and will cause problems a lot of the time (weather you can see the problems or not)
[01:59] <npster> Can someone make a script for me ?
[02:00] <jan1024188> thanks for answer actualy in fedora core user .......new on ubuntu
[02:00] <jan1024188> *im
[02:00] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: i like just check on it again
[02:01] <npster> I guess not...
[02:01] <sg> hey, is there a way i can make terminal transparent? i dont see the option
[02:01] <fyrestrtr> why the **** isn't eclipse 3.2 in repos?
[02:01] <DJAdmiral> gord: but all the packages in the ubuntu repositories are debian packages.
[02:01] <Qnix> sg, what terminal .... gnome-terminal ?
[02:01] <npster> sg: I think that only KDE and GNOME have transparent terminal "emulators"
[02:02] <sg> the gnome terminal
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> with xgl you can
[02:02] <Chousuke> aterm can be transparent too
[02:02] <gord> they arn't exsacly the same DJAdmiral, they might of had bugfixes or even be diffirent versions. that is why lots of people supply ubuntu .debs and debian .debs
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> so can eterm
[02:02] <scrilla-> one quick question
[02:02] <Qnix> Edit current profile -> Effects -> transparent background
[02:02] <scrilla-> how do i apt-get install gnome and all its dependencies?
[02:02] <scrilla-> apt-get install gnome?
[02:02] <Qnix> sg, thats just for the back ground
[02:03] <npster> Can someone please make a script for me ???
[02:03] <fyrestrtr> scrilla-: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:03] <sg> Qnix lemme try bro
[02:03] <Qnix> sg, if you want the whole terminal to be transparent you need xgl
[02:03] <DJAdmiral> gord: i think what he means exactly are .deb archives, not debian debian archives.
[02:03] <sg> but doesnt xgl eat lotta ram/
[02:03] <scrilla-> hrm
[02:03] <sg> this computer isnt too fast
[02:03] <DJAdmiral> npster: what kind of script?
[02:03] <xapaho> fyrestrtr: thanks, ekiga would seem to be the answer indeed -- didn't know it was msn compatible. will come back to let you know, cheers
[02:03] <taavi> DJ : avis working?
[02:03] <scrilla-> fyrestrtr it says broken packages
[02:03] <xapaho> for now, seeya all
[02:04] <scrilla-> a quick question
[02:04] <DJAdmiral> taavi: some packages got timed out and didn't install, i have to apt-get them first
[02:04] <scrilla-> i have ubuntu and all of its stuff in spanish
[02:04] <scrilla-> is it possible to switch to english?
[02:04] <scrilla-> on the fly, without reinstallin the whole system
[02:04] <sg> Qnix: this is 500mhz/512ram/8mb vid, would XGL work good?
[02:04] <DJAdmiral> scrilla-: did you install ubuntu yourself?
[02:04] <Chousuke> sg: probably not.
[02:05] <sg> lol
[02:05] <npster> DJAdmiral: One that can check at regular intervals if /etc/resolv.conf contains only "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" and if it does to add these two "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" & "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[02:05] <scrilla-> DJAdmiral my co worker did, he choose spanish on the install
[02:05] <Chousuke> sg: does the video card do 3d acceleration? :P
[02:05] <lefthanded> is it easy to install a zoom usb adsl modem on ubuntu
[02:05] <sg> Chousuke: i'm not that lucky
[02:05] <scrilla-> everything is in spanish, the console, just about everything, is it possible to switch to english on the fly?
[02:05] <salah> fyrestrtr, that's one of the most stupid answers I ever got in this channel
[02:05] <Qnix> yes it migh work ... but not as its working on nivida ..
[02:05] <sg> Chousuke: i should be thankful i have a OS running lol.. anyways the transparent background feature would do for now
[02:06] <DJAdmiral> scrilla-: as far as i remember, if you choose a language during the install that language becomes your system default language and you can't change it. i think, i'm not completely sure
[02:06] <Chousuke> sg: I wouldn't recommend that to you.
[02:06] <Chousuke> sg: it takes a lot of CPU
[02:06] <scrilla-> fyrestrtr apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is not going, it says there are broken packages
[02:06] <npster> DJAdmiral: Is it possible ?
[02:06] <Chousuke> sg: you haven't really got the resources to spare. :P
[02:06] <fyrestrtr> salah: what?
 salah: because there is a bittorrent client that comes with it.
[02:06] <zybrid> how do i get samba to save my windows iso8859-15 format to utf?
[02:06] <scrilla-> ok
[02:06] <fyrestrtr> salah: oh that one :)
[02:06] <scrilla-> how do i re-install gnome and all its dependencies now?
[02:07] <DJAdmiral> npster: sorry what script do you want again? im really busy multitasking atm sorry
[02:07] <Dimitrije> I wanted to add some xmms skins but i cannot enter path to file browser and i can't see /home/user/.xmms?
[02:07] <npster> DJAdmiral: Look up
[02:07] <DJAdmiral> npster: looking.
[02:07] <nikin> Dimitrije tried "ls -a" ?
[02:08] <npster>  DJAdmiral: One that can check at regular intervals if /etc/resolv.conf contains only "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" and if it does to add these two "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" & "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[02:08] <fyrestrtr> salah: but that is the answer, eventhough you may not like it.
[02:08] <Dimitrije> Yes but i don't want to do it from terminal.
[02:08] <fyrestrtr> npster: how about using the profiles feature of gnome-network-manager
[02:08] <Dimitrije> Oh i found out.
[02:08] <nikin> Dimitrije, you can download the midnight commander, but thats terminal program to
[02:08] <scrilla-> apt-get install gnome-control-center?
[02:09] <DJAdmiral> npster: im afraid not
[02:09] <Dimitrije> Just clicked Go>>location.
[02:09] <Dimitrije> I know for mc thanks ;)
[02:09] <npster> fyrestrtr: I don't use GNOME i use Xfce, Xubuntu
[02:09] <scrilla-> its goin
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> npster: hrmm, there is a way to lock that file so it doesn't get edited, but the exact command escapes me now.
[02:09] <Darkside3> what filesystem does linux use?
[02:10] <DJAdmiral> fyrestrtr: chmod?
[02:10] <DJAdmiral> Darkside3: ext3
[02:10] <scrilla-> Darkside3 ext3
[02:10] <Darkside3> do all of the distros use that
[02:10] <DJAdmiral> Darkside3: however other distros use different file systems. but the most common one is ext3
[02:10] <npster> fyrestrtr: If u remember please let me know, I really need this
[02:10] <scrilla-> Darkside3 unless you choose a different one, by default yes.
[02:10] <danf_1979> Darkside3, there are several
[02:11] <sg> Chousuke: i think ubuntu is slow for my pc...i dont know.. windows is faster, but i think thats with all linux..except like damn small linux which is just pure stripped...is there a way i can do something to test how slow mines is
[02:11] <Darkside3> which filesystem does Debian Vanilla use?
[02:11] <danf_1979> I use ReiserFS
[02:11] <Darkside3> is it ext3
[02:11] <blup|patrick> sg: try that faster dapper script
[02:11] <Chousuke> sg: well, Ubuntu uses pretty recent software.
[02:11] <sg> which script?
[02:11] <scrilla-> yo
[02:11] <Chousuke> sg: but you can tune it to be more lightweight.
[02:11] <scrilla-> how do i cha nge my system language
[02:12] <DJAdmiral> sg: if ubuntu is going slow on your machine, i'd recommend using Xubuntu.
[02:12] <blup|patrick> http://www.dylanknightrogers.com/2006/07/17/faster-dappersh/
[02:12] <nikin> Dimitrije: then whats your problem with mc?
[02:12] <DJAdmiral> brb
[02:12] <salah> fyrestrtr, this is first time I ever have heard about a bittorrent clients which needs a tracker to work. so I also need a web server because it's a browser that comes with ubuntu..?
[02:12] <Darkside3> does Debian Vanilla use ext3
[02:12] <DJAdmiral> back
[02:12] <Dimitrije> I was using it on slackware but i don't have it on ubuntu :)
[02:12] <blup|patrick> salah: no, a torrent needs a tracker
[02:12] <sg> DJAdmiral: ya man i did a lot of things on ubuntu i dont feel like scrapping it now :(
[02:12] <Dimitrije> I found what i need in default gnome browser.
[02:12] <blup|patrick> not the client itself
[02:13] <blup|patrick> the client handles the protocol
[02:13] <npster> Can I make a script myself and in what language do I make it ?
[02:13] <sg> blup|patrick: what does the faster script do and how can i get it?
[02:13] <salah> blup|patrick, so every bt-client needs a tracker..?
[02:13] <nikin> Dimitrije, you can get it with synaptic, just enable universe
[02:13] <DJAdmiral> npster: a bash script would work probably
[02:13] <blup|patrick> salah... no the clients work without tracker
[02:13] <fyrestrtr> salah: calm down, its a tracker because the bittorrent protocol comes with one, and that's how you start it up.
[02:13] <Dimitrije> Ok thanks.
[02:13] <fyrestrtr> DJAdmiral: no, its not that, its something else.
[02:13] <DJAdmiral> salah: not the client. every torrent needs a tracker, not every client
[02:13] <dckirba> hello all
[02:13] <blup|patrick> but if u want to download stuff, each torrent needs a link to a rracker
[02:13] <blup|patrick> sg the link above
[02:13] <npster> DJAdmiral: In what language should I write it ?
[02:14] <salah> fyrestrtr, there is no hard feelings, I am just discussing..
[02:14] <DJAdmiral> fyrestrtr: thanks for the correction.
[02:14] <jahshua> ok im going to start to cry.
[02:14] <jahshua> heh
[02:14] <jahshua> :/
[02:14] <jahshua> i just ran easyubuntu
[02:14] <jahshua> and still no flash playing
[02:14] <fyrestrtr> DJAdmiral: someone else mentioned it before, but I can't remember where or what.
[02:14] <fyrestrtr> !log
[02:14] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[02:14] <salah> DJAdmiral, so why does it boot up? I have never seen any other clients do that
[02:14] <DJAdmiral> npster: no idea.
[02:14] <npster> OK
[02:14] <nikin> btw i have a suggestion. MC should be a base thing in ubuntu, or there is something superior inclooded?
[02:14] <jrib> jahshua: are you running dapper?
[02:14] <jahshua> yes
[02:15] <scrilla-> yeah
[02:15] <Evil`J> Hey guys - I'm relatively new to linux - who wants to help me get cosy?
[02:15] <scrilla-> brb
[02:15] <scrilla-> yo
[02:15] <jrib> jahshua: does /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so exist?
[02:15] <nikin> ls
[02:15] <scrilla-> how do i re-install gnome
[02:15] <blup|patrick> salah: do u mean that distributed database?
[02:15] <DJAdmiral> Evil'J: I can help!
[02:15] <scrilla-> i tried apt-get install gnome
[02:15] <scrilla-> but it gives me errors
[02:15] <Evil`J> DJ - awesome - /msg or in here?
[02:15] <DJAdmiral> Evil'J: MSN?
[02:16] <Evil`J> Ha
[02:16] <jrib> scrilla-: why do you need to reinstall it?
[02:16] <jahshua> jrib: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so: symbolic link to `/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so'
[02:16] <Evil`J> Don't got that installed.
[02:16] <Evil`J> Fresh install of ubuntu
[02:16] <scrilla-> jrib: because i uninstalled it by mistake
[02:16] <DJAdmiral> Evil'J: you have GAIM
[02:16] <tenco> fyrestrtr: using ~/.gnomerc does the trick :-)
[02:16] <Evil`J> Oh, and I just plain don't like MSN =P
[02:16] <salah> blup|patrick, no.. I mean that it's strange that I need to have a bt-tracker which boots up when machine starts and runs as a service for downloading a bt-file...
[02:16] <Evil`J> DJ, show me how.
[02:16] <scrilla-> am i supposed to run apt-get install gnome right?
[02:16] <fyrestrtr> tenco: cool :)
[02:16] <DJAdmiral> Evil'J: click Applications, internet, GAIM
[02:16] <Evil`J> Done
[02:17] <Evil`J> I'll probably need an account?
[02:17] <scrilla-> before that, i did an apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade, then apt-get install gnome
[02:17] <kOpter> Yello :) Is there any way to open / mount a .dmg file?
[02:17] <fyrestrtr> salah: you must not know how torrents work
[02:17] <scrilla-> that didnt work tho
[02:17] <DJAdmiral> Evil'J: yes, add your MSN account there.
[02:17] <jrib> scrilla-: install ubuntu-desktop
[02:17] <Evil`J> I don;t have an MSN account - off to a good start.
[02:17] <blup|patrick> no, thats a missunderstanding
[02:17] <blup|patrick>  salah
[02:17] <blup|patrick> @ salavas
[02:17] <blup|patrick> crap
[02:17] <gilianima> I want crontab to be executed with vim and not nano, how to change that ?
[02:18] <blup|patrick> @ salah <-- rigth :)
[02:18] <jrib> jahshua: did you close all instances of firefox and start it again?
[02:18] <blup|patrick> u download a torrent
[02:18] <DJAdmiral> Evil'J: no hotmail or msn messenger addy?
[02:18] <blup|patrick> in that that torret is sort of a note that links to a tracker
[02:18] <scrilla-> hrm lets see
[02:18] <scrilla-> ok one last thing
[02:18] <scrilla-> dude
[02:18] <Evil`J> Nope, I've used IRC all my life - no reason to change.
[02:18] <scrilla-> how do i change my language settings?
[02:18] <keb> hi, my first partition (ntfs) went wrong, i had here my grub, now i dont have wondows, neither i can start my linux, what can i do?
[02:18] <scrilla-> for my whole system
[02:18] <blup|patrick> that tracker is hosted by the guy who is offering the file ur downloading
[02:18] <DJAdmiral> Evil'J then i guess /msg will do
[02:18] <salah> blup|patrick, so, please tell me why it's a enabled service
[02:19] <sg> blup|patrick: how do i run the script, sudo faster-dapper.sh ?
[02:19] <blup|patrick> well.. are u hosting a torrent
[02:19] <blup|patrick> sg: well first check if the correct drive is noted in that script
[02:19] <salah> blup|patrick, no, and I don't use ubuntu's bt-client either
[02:19] <blup|patrick> default is hda in that script
[02:19] <sg> DJAdmiral: are you a real dj ?
[02:19] <jahshua> jrib: yes i did
[02:19] <blup|patrick> salah: well thats weired
[02:19] <fyrestrtr> salah: just use bum
[02:19] <DJAdmiral> sg: yep
[02:19] <fyrestrtr> !bum
[02:19] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:19] <fyrestrtr> and remove it
[02:19] <sg> DJAdmiral: what do you use to edit music ..rosegarden or audacity?
[02:20] <blup|patrick> then sudo sh *script*
[02:20] <jrib> jahshua: what does this command return:   readlink -f $(which firefox)
[02:20] <scrilla-> fyrestrtr know how to change the system language mang, without doing a fresh install?
[02:20] <scrilla-> sorry for pointing you out
[02:20] <sg> blup|patrick: hda... i guess thats right i only have one hd
[02:20] <DJAdmiral> sg: i haven't really done any DJing on linux as yet
[02:20] <jahshua> jrib: /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[02:20] <blup|patrick> ah ok :)
[02:20] <sg> DJAdmiral: what did u use on WIn, acid pro/sonic foudry?
[02:20] <blup|patrick> then sudo sh faster-dapper.sh
[02:20] <blup|patrick> or how the correct name of that script is
[02:20] <blup|patrick> :)
[02:20] <DJAdmiral> sg: Dance E-Jay, Cubix
[02:21] <jrib> jahshua: hmm, what site are you using to test flash?
[02:21] <fyrestrtr> scrilla-: system language -- to what?
[02:21] <jahshua> jrib: youtube
[02:21] <sg> DJAdmiral: did you produce using Cubase?
[02:21] <blup|patrick> may take a while till the script is finished
[02:21] <scrilla-> fyrestrtr from spanish to english
[02:21] <DJAdmiral> sg: on linux i'm taking a look at mixx and terminatorX
[02:21] <DJAdmiral> sg: i think so
[02:21] <jrib> jahshua: does this work: http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/
[02:21] <DJAdmiral> sg: i tried it on a friends machine
[02:21] <sg> DJAdmiral: I never heard of those, which one is similar to ACID PRO? I mix a little here and there, I just got linux i want to mix on this too..
[02:22] <DJAdmiral> sg: i also used ots cd scratch once
[02:22] <DJAdmiral> sg: haven't tried either linux dj program as yet
[02:22] <DJAdmiral> Evil'J: you there?
[02:22] <sg> DJAdmiral: i never heard of mixx or terminatorX
[02:22] <Evil`J> I am
[02:22] <fyrestrtr> scrilla-: all the packages that you get when you type this in a term apt-cache search "language-pack-(.*?)-en"
[02:22] <Evil`J> I need to get my music working, otherwise I don't function.
[02:22] <DJAdmiral> sg: it's in the add remove programs thing
[02:22] <DJAdmiral> Evil'J one sec
[02:22] <sg> under where
[02:23] <jahshua> jrib: yes it does ... odd.
[02:23] <jahshua> what can that mean?
[02:23] <jahshua> :/
[02:23] <valc0m> hi ok little stupit question: I tryed install mplayer whit every tutorial ... still no luck
[02:23] <DJAdmiral> Evil'J: how are you IRCing right now?
[02:23] <jrib> jahshua: latest flash version released for linux is 7, youtube may require a later version
[02:23] <scrilla-> fyrestrtr then i simply install the language pack in english and presto?
[02:23] <fyrestrtr> scrilla-: yeap, I think so.
[02:23] <valc0m> can somebody at least tell me a good tutorial
[02:23] <jahshua> jrib: i had no problems with youtube on FC5 just a day ago.  :/
[02:23] <scrilla-> fyrestrtr let me try that real quick
[02:24] <fyrestrtr> scrilla-: there are a few others, just type that search and install what it finds
[02:24] <sg> blup|patrick: do u use the script -- how much big of a difference does it make
[02:24] <scrilla-> yeah
[02:24] <server3> Hi
[02:24] <Evil`J> I found X-chat
[02:24] <scrilla-> fyrestrtr any change needs to be made after the install?
[02:24] <DJAdmiral> valc0m: www.getautomatix.com helps you install mplayer
[02:24] <scrilla-> or will it automagically switch to english?
[02:24] <fyrestrtr> scrilla-: I don't know, as I have never done it myself, but I doubt it.
[02:24] <valc0m> DJAdmiral: thx
[02:24] <DJAdmiral> Evil'J: okay, good. do you see a tab in your window?
[02:24] <scrilla-> ok
[02:24] <scrilla-> thank you
[02:24] <DJAdmiral> valc0m: np
[02:24] <server3> Now I have Ubuntu 5.10, I want to upgrade it to Drapper. What I have to do?
[02:25] <Evil`J> I've got Ubuntu Servers and #ubuntu - no dcc window or anything.,,.
[02:25] <blup|patrick> sg: well it speeded up my system... default it took hours to load an app
[02:25] <blup|patrick> now it works much faster
[02:25] <sg> blup|patrick: nice i hope it works here..
[02:25] <blup|patrick> but that may have been a bug in xgl
[02:25] <jrib> jahshua: what happens exactly when you try to view it?  For example, this is working for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1z6OCRJVks (I don't know what this is, but it is titled "Five second rule", first thing I saw)
[02:25] <server3> How to upgrade to Ubuntu 6.06?
[02:25] <blup|patrick> or something between xgl and xorg
[02:25] <sg> blup|patrick: it takes like a while to open up anything for me.. i dont use xgl so its good
[02:25] <scrilla-> yo
[02:25] <jrib> !upgrade
[02:25] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[02:25] <scrilla-> when is ubuntu releasing its next version?
[02:25] <zsh> server3, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[02:26] <DJAdmiral> Evil`J can you PM me?
[02:26] <blup|patrick> ah, and since it disabled ipv6 webbrowsing is as fast as in windows for me :)
[02:26] <jahshua> jrib: Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Click here to get the latest flash player.
[02:26] <jahshua> so strange.
[02:26] <sg> blup|patrick: what does it do install old versions of programs? that doesnt seem too good
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> !schedule
[02:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:26] <kOpter> Yello :) Is there any way to open / mount a .dmg file?
[02:27] <DJAdmiral> Evil`J: im not seeing any PM, so let me just get X-Chat first, okay? hang on dude
[02:27] <Evil`J> Thanks DJ
[02:27] <blup|patrick> sg: it doesnt change anything on programs
[02:27] <blup|patrick> it just modifies caches
[02:27] <jrib> jahshua: maybe try clearing your cache and history
[02:27] <DJAdmiral> Evil`J: no problemo.
[02:28] <jahshua> ok
[02:28] <server3> I typed command `gksudo "update-manager -d` and had a window with header: "There is a new release of Ubuntu available!"
[02:28] <sg> DJAdmiral: terminatorX or mixx isnt in add/remove.
[02:28] <blup|patrick> eg. ur using more than one application with shared libraries... in dapper default it happened that each app opened a own copy of that lib
[02:28] <server3> But there is no automatic update
[02:28] <nny> ok so I am in need to someone philanthropic here to help me get proprietary drivers working on this install.. I have bitchx and links so my ability to google etc is limited
[02:28] <DJAdmiral> jahshua: try removing your cookies too
[02:28] <blup|patrick> taht script modifies the behaviour in a way, that the libs are really shared
[02:28] <fyrestrtr> kOpter: try this. mkdir ~/macdisk sudo mount -t hfs -o loop foo.dmg /home/yourusername/macdisk
[02:28] <nny> proprietary nvidia drivers
[02:28] <DJAdmiral> sg: check show unsupported applications and show commercial applications
[02:28] <blup|patrick> at least i understood that explanition that way
[02:29] <jahshua> ok
[02:29] <fyrestrtr> nny: did you already read the wiki?
[02:29] <kOpter> fyrestrtr > I did that, but it gives me: mount: wrong fs type
[02:29] <sg> blup|patrick: but something must e wrong, or the developers would've applied this patch to the release?
[02:29] <fyrestrtr> kOpter: try file foo.dmg -- what is it?
[02:29] <nny> i downloaded the nvidia_blah_foo.sh installer, ran it, but it fails on module nvidia (and consequently glx)
[02:29] <jrib> !nvidia > nny
[02:29] <nny> fyrestrtr um.. i would except the wiki in links may prove to be a bit challenging
[02:29] <kOpter> fyrestrtr > download.dmg: VAX COFF executable not stripped - version 1539... hmm that can't be right?
[02:30] <DJAdmiral> Evil`J: this could take a while my connection is slow atm
[02:30] <kOpter> fyrestrtr> I'm sure it's an apple DMG file. It works fine on a macbook
[02:30] <jahshua> jrib: man i was sure that would work, i was thinking up my big thank you to you... but ... no.  ://///
[02:30] <nny> jrib fyrestrtr ok i'll try, navigating in terminal is always... "fun"
[02:30] <DJAdmiral> Evil`J: it's downloaded now it's installing.
[02:31] <fyrestrtr> nny: you need to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual from top to bottom
[02:31] <jrib> nny: maybe you can load up a live cd, it should be in the system > help system (I think)
[02:31] <DJAdmiral> Evil`J: do you know what version of ubuntu do you have btw?
[02:31] <sg> blup|patrick: shud it be faster after its done or i hvae to restart, etc?
[02:31] <fyrestrtr> kOpter: hrmm, its strange. Maybe ubuntu doesn't come with hfs support.
[02:31] <Evil`J> 5.10
[02:31] <nny> jrib fyrestrtr just trying to discern why even though i have ran the installer, etc, the module still says it doesn't exist, it does show up in lsmod, but with nothing using it, (which makes since, since X isn't starting)
[02:32] <fyrestrtr> nny: were you previously using the non nvidia.com drivers?
[02:32] <kOpter> fyrestr > I apt-get installed all the hfs things.. so it should work. Or is it a kernel thing?
[02:32] <DJAdmiral> Evil`J: Ah, nice. so where did you get your install CD from, and who installed it for you?
[02:32] <scrilla-> (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[02:32] <scrilla-> (EE) Failed to load module "wacom" (module does not exist, 0)
[02:32] <scrilla-> damn
[02:32] <scrilla-> i get that error now
[02:32] <fyrestrtr> kOpter: well, I had compile it in the kernel (hfs support), but this was wayy back in gentoo, could be something similar here.
[02:32] <Evil`J> DJ - I downloaded the iso and installed it myself
[02:32] <nny> jrib fyrestrtr only reason (yes i was using nvidia-glx) i am switching is hibernate/ ctrl-alt-ttywhatever was going black screen, and it seemed that the drives were the cause
[02:32] <scrilla-> i had it working, i uninstalled the desktop, i reinstalled it and now i get that crappy error
[02:32] <nny> drivers*
[02:32] <nixen9> i need some help/advice with insight/gdb any specialist there ?
[02:33] <scrilla-> yeah
[02:33] <DJAdmiral> Evil`J: okay, cool. XChat is installed, i'll log off now and log back in with XChat. Alright?
[02:33] <blup|patrick> sg: well... i it said, some operations recommend a reboot of the system to take full effect
[02:33] <nny> fyrestrtr going to that wiki via links2 now
[02:33] <blup|patrick> or smth. like tat
[02:33] <fyrestrtr> nny: you need to completely remove nvidia-* packages from your system, and then reboot the machine. Then, install the kernel headers, and then run the installer script. You miss one nvidia-* package, and it won't work.
[02:33] <Evil`J> Thanks DJ
[02:33] <blup|patrick> that
[02:33] <scrilla-> how do i install the ATI/fglrx,wacom drivers?
[02:33] <fyrestrtr> !ati
[02:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:34] <DJAdmiral> alright  people i'll be back in a bit!
[02:34] <nny> fyrestrtr suspected as much ok remove first, and i'll reads the wiki prior to just to get an idea of what i may have missed
[02:34] <nny> i'll read*
[02:34] <nixen9> i ve apt-getted insight but when a try to load a binary or attach to a process it tell me "cannot initialize debugging thread" do i need to patch my kernel in some way, what am i missing?
[02:34] <fyrestrtr> nny: went through the same thing on my system, make sure you remove those packages!
[02:35] <nny> hrrmph links2 doesn't support ssl ":\
[02:35] <nny> fyrestrtr roger that
[02:36] <acojlo> hi, i have moved from kubuntu installation to gnome and gdm. Is there anything I should reconfigure?
[02:36] <nny> fyrestrtr you're not using xgl by any chance as well are you?
[02:36] <scrilla-> fyrestrtr : all the EN packages seem to be installed already
[02:36] <nny> fyrestrtr i have had it working for a while (with few if no bugs) nvidia blackscreen deal just was driving me nuts slowly
[02:36] <scrilla-> there must be something that needs to be edited to switch to EN
[02:36] <scrilla-> because "EN" base is installed.
[02:37] <frogzoo> !fglrx > scrilla-
[02:37] <frandavid100> hi guys
[02:37] <nixen9> anyone using (with success) insight/gdb under Dapper ?
[02:37] <scrilla-> frogzoo i installed my ATI drivers already.
[02:37] <nny> heh dropped my conn and the irc client just rolls on :)
[02:37] <frandavid100> do you know of a channel where I can discuss about tomboy?
[02:37] <Evil`J> wb DJ
[02:37] <scrilla-> i need to find out how to switch my system language from spanish to english
[02:37] <ryanakca> nixen9: gdb, yes, works fine... insight? never heard of it :)
[02:37] <kingman> hello,everyone,who install qemu and configure virtual network,please help me.
[02:37] <nny> gah any term based browsers that support ssl?
[02:37] <nny> lynx?
[02:38] <fyrestrtr> nny: I was
[02:38] <keb> and i need to find out how to get back my ntfs from raw
[02:38] <nny> fyrestrtr was?
[02:38] <nikin> hmm
[02:38] <nny> fyrestrtr gave you trouble?
[02:38] <fyrestrtr> nny: yeah, not anymore (well, not right now).
[02:38] <frogzoo> scrilla-: sys -> admin -> language support
[02:38] <daunt> sup..
[02:38] <nixen9> ryanakca, thanks here my question ;) my problem is gdb related (cannot init debugging thread) Do i need some special Lib or patch/enable something in teh kernel
[02:38] <fyrestrtr> nny: no, had to do something else that needed xgl to stop.
[02:38] <scrilla-> frogzoo : from command line.
[02:39] <Shinzetsu> Can I make a desktop shortcut of a terminal command?
[02:39] <fyrestrtr> nny: but it worked fine without any problems or glitches.
[02:39] <nny> fyrestrtr cool.. btw you knowof either a text based browser that supports ssl or a link to the wiki that isn't ssl based?
[02:39] <acojlo> what to add into menu.lst in order to show usplash during boot?
[02:39] <rdz> Shinzetsu, i am interested in the same thing
[02:39] <frogzoo> Shinzetsu: indubitably
[02:39] <Evil`J> wb DJ
[02:40] <Shinzetsu> rdz: Yeah, I start up one of my programs via the terminal
[02:40] <kingman> who set correct ubuntu tun?please help me.
[02:40] <DJAdmiral> Evil`J: having issues with XChat, i'll be back again, sorry about the delay
[02:40] <daunt> why don't we like Automatix?
[02:40] <frogzoo> Shinzetsu: rdz something like, in launcher: "gnome-terminal -e 'hnb /work/ccie.hnb'"
[02:40] <nixen9> ryanakca, insight is a forntend to gdb (i know this but never got it works ?)
[02:40] <fyrestrtr> nny: links-ssl
[02:40] <nixen9> (s/i/you)
[02:40] <danf_1979> server <IP_ADDRESS>.80 is dead?
[02:41] <dsas_> !tell daunt about automatix
[02:41] <ryanakca> nixen9: can't debug in other words?
[02:41] <daunt> thx.
[02:41] <scrilla-> brb
[02:41] <nny> fyrestrtr cool, and last q, do you know where the nvidia-uninstaller is?
[02:41] <nny> fyrestrtr thanks btw
[02:41] <daunt> is it because it does things automagically?
[02:41] <fyrestrtr> nny: nvidia uninstaller? for what?
[02:41] <nixen9> ryanakca, yep didn't try from gdb (cmd line) but i think i ll got the same error, i ll try
[02:41] <Shinzetsu> frogzoo: whats a hnb?
[02:41] <fyrestrtr> nny: the binary drivers from nvidia.com, or the stuff from repos?
[02:41] <incandenza> I'm running the linux-image-2.6.15-26-686 kernel on a core duo laptop, and the load average always seems to stay pegged at 1 even though the machine is idle.  any ideas?
[02:42] <nny> fyrestrtr binary
[02:42] <roe> incandenza: what does top tell you
[02:42] <nixen9> ryanakca, oops got it wrong gdb is running fine, must be a probleme with insight, thanks for the help
[02:42] <ryanakca> nixen9: try from command line... and then look on the wiki... I forget the link... you can search... or wait a couple of minutes for me to get it for you :)
[02:42] <fyrestrtr> nny: I don't know about that, sorry.
[02:42] <sg> hey whats mostly used on linux to burn cds, similar to nero, is it X-CD-Roast ?
[02:42] <incandenza> roe: top shows the cpu as 95%+ idle
[02:43] <ag0ny> good morning, day, evening
[02:43] <nixen9> ryanakca, i ll search to (not found anything "transcendant" about insight either)
[02:43] <nny> fyrestrtr ok thanks
[02:43] <fyrestrtr> k3b is popular.
[02:43] <daunt> okay then, automatix is done, time to reboot into ubuntu and see what all the fuss is about ..
[02:43] <frogzoo> Shinzetsu: apt-cache show hnb
[02:43] <roe> and your saying the processor is pegged?
[02:43] <sg> blup|patrick:  hey whats mostly used on linux to burn cds, similar to nero, is it X-CD-Roast ?
[02:43] <incandenza> roe: well, the load average is
[02:44] <blup|patrick> sg: i prefer k3b
[02:44] <Shinzetsu> aha
[02:44] <ag0ny> is there any way i can change the color of the clock applet font? or the color of the font for the toolbars in general?
[02:44] <incandenza> roe: but there don't seem to be any processes that are running that much
[02:44] <[b] urk> sg, k3b, but thats a kde-app
[02:44] <danf_1979> gnomebaker is ok too
[02:44] <nixen9> sg, gnomebaker is running (at least) fine for me
[02:44] <blup|patrick> burk, it shouldn be  a problem runnig kde appz in gnome
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> sg: k3b, gnomebaker, graveman are some.
[02:44] <incandenza> roe: also, keyboard input is kind of weird and laggy
[02:44] <scrilla-> how do i find my gnome version?
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> scrilla-: system -> about gnome
[02:45] <scrilla-> tx
[02:45] <acojlo> my gnome desktop is very slow at redrawing windows - for example when I switch between them
[02:45] <rdz> frogzoo, yeah, i was looking for something like that. the only problem is, that when i save to command as a script on the desktop and i doube-click, it asks me wheter i want to edit or run it.
[02:45] <nny> fyrestrtr btw is smp kernel required for dual core?
[02:45] <sg> ya which one has more features ,like audio cd, data, mp3, etc and a easy to use interface?
[02:45] <fyrestrtr> nny: yeah, otherwise you are just single core ;)
[02:45] <stefg> sg: k3b
[02:46] <nny> fyrestrtr this "great" intel cost me a small fortune, f that
[02:46] <sg> im on gnome
[02:46] <arno> can anyone help with installation problems
[02:46] <fyrestrtr> nny: you might also want to consider getting the 686 kernel.
[02:46] <stefg> sg, never mind... it'
[02:46] <nny> fyrestrtr do you have to signify "smp" when getting the linux-686 kernel?
[02:46] <sg> gnomeaker stefg
[02:46] <sg> baker*
[02:46] <roe> incandenza: what processes are running as your local user?
[02:46] <stefg> gnomebaker isn't anywhere near k3b
[02:46] <nixen9> ryanakca, were you thinking about this one ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[02:46] <nny> fyrestrtr nm search in apt-cache says all
[02:47] <incandenza> roe: not much...  I have firefox open, a couple shells, irssi
[02:47] <stefg> installing k3b will bring some kdelibs with it, but it's still worth it
[02:48] <TheSheep> how can I install libglib2.0-dev from the repositories?
[02:48] <nny> if this laptop hibernates normally, i'll be happy.. need to research multiple frambuffer displays running on seperate monitors next
[02:48] <chemaja> nixen9, i see documentation like that and i just want to switch to this OS
[02:48] <roe> incandenza: how is your swap space?
[02:48] <chemaja> :D
[02:48] <damnation> umm, hmm.  i know this is gonna be an annoying question, but i have a laptop with little hdd space, what is the absolute minimum a standard install of ubuntu will need? i tried installing with 2.8gb ext3 and 256swap, but still said i need '2gb' and wouldnt let me continue :/
[02:48] <sg> stefg:  so i can use it on gnome?
[02:48] <stefg> of course..
[02:48] <ryanakca> nixen9: found it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[02:48] <incandenza> roe: 18 megs used out of 1 gig
[02:48] <sg> blup|patrick: that fast script is still "Setting up prelink (0.0.20050901-1) ...Running prelink for the first time so this might take awhile..." how long does it take?
[02:49] <stefg> 15 min average
[02:49] <taavi> DJ: any update on avis?
[02:49] <roe> incandenza: I'm almost out of ideas :), one last thought though, firefox... are you open to a page with Flash on it?
[02:49] <sg> i think its been over 15
[02:49] <incandenza> roe: I don't think the cpu is really being used that much...  it's not hot or anything
[02:49] <DJAdmiral> taavi; they won't play!!!
[02:50] <incandenza> roe: it's just the load average is still up there
[02:50] <DJAdmiral> taavi: AAAGH
[02:50] <taavi> Dj: damn..
[02:50] <incandenza> roe: nope, I closed firefox completely just to be sure
[02:50] <nixen9> ryanakca, yep thanks, so as i was saying gdb (on it's own) is running fine (i could do the run, backtrace as described in the wiki) just seems that i can't get Insight to work (and google tells me that nobody is using insight or without any problem ;)
[02:50] <taavi> Dj: thought so..
[02:50] <nny> btw to all the geeks with no dough "New Egg Open Box"is your friend
[02:50] <k31th> what gui text editors do syntax highlighting?
[02:50] <DJAdmiral> and evil j left
[02:50] <DJAdmiral> great
[02:50] <DJAdmiral> just great
[02:50] <DJAdmiral> i hate stupid avis
[02:50] <stefg> sg depends on your CPU and how much stuff is installed... 800MHz/256 MB and lots of stuff installed can make it up to an hour
[02:50] <taavi> DJ: i think the problem is somewere else thne codecs and players
[02:51] <DJAdmiral> it said it couldn't find demuxxers
[02:51] <DJAdmiral> or something like that
[02:51] <sg> stefg; normal ubuntu stuff + a few progs @ 500mhz/512ram
[02:51] <taavi> DJ: i've installed a whole bunch of them
[02:51] <zybrid> do i have to change locale to iso 8859-15 on the server to get SAMBA working with windows client?
[02:51] <damnation> umm, hmm.  i know this is gonna be an annoying question, but i have a laptop with little hdd space, what is the absolute minimum a standard install of ubuntu will need? i tried installing with 2.8gb ext3 and 256swap, but still said i need '2gb' and wouldnt let me continue :/
[02:51] <stefg> sg: ok, so don't rush it... be patient
[02:51] <sg> stefg: yes sir
[02:51] <zybrid> damnation: do a serverinstall
[02:51] <DJAdmiral> taavi: nothing else i can do. i'll have to transfer them and play them on a windoze box.
[02:51] <DJAdmiral> gaaah
[02:52] <taavi> DJ: crap..
[02:52] <nny> damnation try another distro aimed at smaller footprint yet?
[02:52] <Shinzetsu> in Russia there are 95% of users having a pirate copy of Windows :).
[02:52] <damnation> what's a serverinstall? soley from the internet, aka.. live.. i guess you can call it
[02:52] <damnation> ??
[02:52] <taavi> hate windows..
[02:52] <damnation> =[
[02:52] <cypher1> damnation: i guess for dapper desktop we need 3 gb
[02:52] <nickay> Hi. Is there any one who has install and configure Horde in ubuntu? I have a problem with it!
[02:52] <damnation> says 2gb =[
[02:52] <chemaja> the one good thing windows has going for it is point-and-click installers
[02:52] <damnation> humm
[02:52] <blup|patrick> sg: took a few minutes for me
[02:52] <chemaja> and hardware vendor support of course
[02:53] <sg> blup|patrick: whats ur comp stat
[02:53] <daunt> okay its looking good .. so is there an 'easy' way to turn my base ubuntu system into a 'normal' linux devstation, gcc/binutils and all, or do i have to do some package shopping?
[02:53] <ryanakca> nixen9: where did you get "insight"? is it in the repos?
[02:53] <nixen9> yep it's a DDD like backed up by Novell iirc
[02:53] <blup|patrick> athlon64 3000+ 1Gig Ram
[02:53] <damnation> thanks guys =]
[02:54] <blup|patrick> nothing special
[02:54] <taavi> does anyone else maybe have a clue why avi files don't play?
[02:54] <daunt> << not really into shopping for packages
[02:54] <sg> blup|patrick: special for me :p
[02:54] <arno> i get this error: "bash: make: command not found", what can I do?
[02:54] <daunt> arno, binutils?
[02:54] <gnomefreak> arno: install build-essential
[02:54] <sg> arno: install basic build build utils
[02:54] <nixen9> ryanakca it's not in the main repo? (did i get it from another repo - check it)
[02:54] <arno> doesn't work
[02:54] <ag0ny> is there a way i can change the color of the clock applet font? or the color of the font for the toolbars in general?
[02:54] <arno> I use Ubuntu 5.10 btw
[02:54] <gnomefreak> arno: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:55] <shiv> how do I make recycle bin to show on desktop?
[02:55] <danf_1979> aptitude install make
[02:55] <gnomefreak> arno: its in main repo
[02:55] <chemaja> shiv, gconf-editor
[02:55] <blup|patrick> sg: i may be wrong, but it tool about 10 to 20 minutes
[02:55] <blup|patrick> was working a long time
[02:55] <blup|patrick> i went out for a coffee in the meanwhile :)
[02:55] <ag0ny> shiv: http://www.beginningubuntu.com/dapper_tips.html#Make_the_Wastebin_and_Computer_icons
[02:55] <shiv> Thanks all
[02:55] <shiv> :)
[02:55] <blup|patrick> tool
[02:56] <blup|patrick> took
[02:56] <blup|patrick> TOOK :(
[02:56] <nixen9> ryanakca, insight - Graphical debugger based on GDB - Version: 6.1+cvs.2004.08.11-1ubuntu1 (so seems to come from the main repo)
[02:56] <sg> finally its done the prelink
[02:56] <sg> took about 30 min
[02:56] <chemaja> ag0ny, much more user friendly, you are :D
[02:56] <nixen9> ryankca mmm "based" so i was wrong it's not using gdb, more and more confused ^^
[02:56] <arno> problem solved thanks to synaptic package mgr, thx anyway
[02:57] <blup|patrick> sg: shoul dbe better now :)
[02:57] <ag0ny> chemaja: :D
[02:57] <LorandKA> :)
[02:58] <sg> blup|patrick:  thx
[02:58] <LorandKA> i don't have sound.. lol :(
[02:58] <gholen> how do I install in text-mode from the Live-CD ubuntu 6.06
[02:58] <shiv> how do I force delete  things in waste basket :(
[02:58] <sg> blup|patrick: can u tell me what is hould download to also be able to view vidoe files such as .mpg/.avi, etc
[02:58] <roe> gholen: I don't believe yo ucan
[02:58] <MatthewV> gholen, i don't think that's possible, you need the alternate cd
[02:58] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats
[02:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <gholen> Okej, thats bad
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> sg ^^ that
[02:59] <nny> ugh.. someone wanna google "error inserting  './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko , Invalid module format on binary nvidia install.. kind of stuck here in term
[02:59] <gholen> My DSL corrupt the CDs
[02:59] <eisfalke> Hi all, my laptop doesnt turn power off after one of the last big ubuntu updates. Does anybody have an idea where to look and search for the problem?
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> nny: install the kernel headers and the kernel source
[02:59] <MatthewV> nny, lynx :)
[02:59] <MatthewV> !info lynx
[02:59] <ubotu> lynx: Text-mode WWW Browser. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.8.5-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1074 kB, installed size 4552 kB
[02:59] <ryanakca> nixen9: dunno... didn't even know it existed... try going "man insight"
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> nny: *remove* all the nvidia-* packages
[03:00] <nixen9> ryanakca, ll try this and look around again - thanks fro your help
[03:00] <gholen> In a installed system, you can choose failsafe terminal, is that possibale in the liveCD to?
[03:00] <fyrestrtr> gholen: yes
[03:00] <ryanakca> nixen9: np
[03:00] <arno> does anyone know how I can access a fat32 filesystem with ubuntu?
[03:00] <bmonkey> hi
[03:00] <bmonkey> mount it
[03:01] <LorandKA> arno
[03:01] <arno> yes
[03:01] <LorandKA> just a sec
[03:01] <sg> lynx was my best friend when i messed with gentoo long time ago..lol
[03:01] <bmonkey> @arno: look in your drives admin tool for the partitions name
[03:01] <bmonkey> @arno: like /dev/hda1
[03:01] <arno> ok
[03:01] <gholen> fyrestrtr: good, now, can i skip loading the whole gnome-thing then?
[03:02] <bmonkey> @arno: then sudo mkdir /media/FAT32DriveName
[03:02] <nixen9> ryanakca, more info about insight https://launchpad.net/products/insight - still cannot sort out if it's BASED on gdb or if it's using gdb_Server :)
[03:03] <bmonkey> @arno: then mount /dev/hda1 /media/FAT32DriveName
[03:03] <nixen9> ryanakca, sorry main projet page here: http://sources.redhat.com/insight/
[03:03] <gholen> Safemode thorows me right in to gnome?
[03:03] <arno> just a second, trying ;)
[03:03] <acojlo> how to display ubuntu boot splash instead of kubuntu splash?
[03:03] <bmonkey> anybody any idea how i mount hfs+ writable?
[03:03] <nny> hmm any reason why linux-smp-686 requires nvidia as a dep??
[03:03] <arto> What is the type/model of laptop most compatible with linux or ubuntu?
[03:04] <ailean> Why is ubuntu hosting Gnucash 1.8 on its repos when 2.01 is now available?
[03:04] <ryanakca> to reinstall python, what do I run? sudo dpkg --force-reinstreq python2.3?
[03:04] <arno> thx bmonkey!
[03:04] <ryanakca> ailean: because 2.01 wasn't available at the time of the release
[03:04] <bmonkey> @arno: np, i hope it works
[03:05] <gholen> So, att the boot, choose "start or installl ubuntu" then, in GDM, choose safe terminal and in terminal, type ./install.sh, is that correct?
[03:05] <nickay> i am trying to configure horde. But when i am trying to access to horde from web i get error " Notice: Only variable references should be returned by reference in /usr/share/php/Log.php on line 92".Is there anyone who can help me?
[03:05] <nny> or better yet, how do I install 686-smp WITHOUT nvidia deps?
[03:05] <ailean> ryanakca, but I thought updates were applied as they become available. why do i get almost daily updates to other things then?
[03:05] <arno> need root acces so I'll have to log off first
[03:05] <ryanakca> ailean: you running dapper or edgy?
[03:05] <ailean> ryanakca, dapper - don t trust edgy quite yet
[03:05] <bmonkey> @arno: no, you have to type sudo in front of your command
[03:06] <ag0ny> is there a way i can change the color of the clock applet font? or the color of the font for the toolbars in general?
[03:06] <Zugschlus> hi
[03:06] <ryanakca> ailean: updates are simply bug fixes or small things like that... ask to have it upgraded in edgy
[03:06] <ailean> k, thanks ryanakca
[03:06] <nny> hmm any experts in here wanna tell me how to avoid nvidia deps when installing linux-686-smp via aptitudE?
[03:07] <Zugschlus> When I ssh into my ubuntu box,  I get "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." warnings. LANGUAGE = "en_AU:en", LC_ALL = (unset), LC_CTYPE = "de_DE", LANG = "en_AU.UTF-8". How do I generate the locales necessary?
[03:07] <ryanakca> to reinstall python, what do I run? sudo dpkg --force-reinstreq python2.3?
[03:07] <arno> bye
[03:08] <petemc> Zugschlus: tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[03:08] <nny> hello hello?
[03:08] <nny> !linux-686-smp
[03:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about linux-686-smp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:08] <nny> gah
[03:09] <Astinus-> I installled ubuntu server, and some program requires cc-program where can i find it?
[03:09] <bmonkey> i cant write to this mount, please help!!: /dev/sda2 on /media/MuffinDrive type hfsplus (rw)
[03:09] <Zugschlus> petemc: yes, that only re-builds some locales with no effeect
[03:09] <Morslok> How do I install a package in 64bit Ubuntu that is i386 architecture?
[03:10] <nny> bmonkey try mount -rw -t hfsplus /dev/sda2 /media/MuffinDrive
[03:10] <LorandKA> i don't have sound on a compaq deskpro, any clues?
[03:10] <Dimensions> how can i configure nokia 6630 as my gprs modem in ubuntu
[03:10] <nny> bmonkey you have the hfsutils on that install?
[03:11] <bmonkey> nny: no, have to get the package, thx
[03:11] <nny> bmonkey no package afaik, you have to compile from source
[03:11] <nny> bmonkey had to do it last month to work on an mac drive
[03:11] <nny> a mac*
[03:12] <bmonkey> nny: oh, the package is installe
[03:12] <bmonkey> nny: its a usb mac formated drive, im on a x86 pc
[03:12] <nny> bmonkey yeah it's missing mkhfs and fsck.hfsplus but it's in the repos
[03:12] <bmonkey> nny: its automounts wekkk
[03:12] <constantine-xvi> does anyone know of a good video podcast app for linux?
[03:12] <scrilla-> quick question
[03:12] <nny> bmonkey you prolly need neither of those, so just try to umount it and mount it with -rw
[03:12] <scrilla-> hrm
[03:12] <scrilla-> brb
[03:13] <nny> btw anyone here wanna tell me how to install ONLY the 686-smp kernel, minus nvidia garbage?
[03:13] <scrilla-> how do i change my system language
[03:13] <scrilla-> is that possible?
[03:13] <incandenza> nny: just install linux-image-686...  shouldn't install any nvidia anything
[03:13] <lhds> i need to make an icon where in terminal i would normally type sudo filename
[03:13] <frogzoo> nny: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[03:13] <viviersf> ye @ incandenza
[03:14] <lhds> how to specify the root access to that application in the icon?
[03:14] <sg> how can  i fix this error ? checking readline/readline.h usability... no checking readline/readline.h presence... no checking for readline/readline.h... no configure: error: could not find readline header files
[03:14] <tomveens> I've got a topic and a problem you want to know?
[03:14] <bmonkey> nny: its says 777, but itsn not writable anyways
[03:14] <lhds> i need to make an icon where in terminal i would normally type sudo filename how to specify the root access to that application in the icon?
[03:14] <bmonkey> nny: so i have to compile hfsutils myself?
[03:14] <LorandKA> any ideeas, where can i get sound form my machine?
[03:14] <tomveens> http://openmedia.tomveens.nl/
[03:15] <tomveens> for the problem
[03:15] <nny> bmonkey what does dmesg or tail /var/log/messages |grep /dev/hda2 say?
[03:15] <acojlo> vbesave takes very long time during boot. why?
[03:15] <nny> bmonkey if it's mounting ro than you are gonna have issues, i am unsure of the compatability issues if any for writing to a hfs fs
[03:16] <nny> bmonkey only if you need fsck.hfsplus (to repair a hfs fs) or mkhfs (to make a drive hfs)
[03:16] <bmonkey>  nny: HFS+-fs: write access to a jounaled filesystem is not supported, use the force option at your own risk, mounting read-only.
[03:16] <nny> well there you go
[03:17] <bmonkey> nny: maybe i should disable journaling?
[03:17] <nny> bmonkey may wanna google for hfs+ write access
[03:17] <Shinzetsu> How do I fully uninstall gnome and install kde?
[03:17] <nny> bmonkey i dunno if you can, it's usually an integral part of filesystems that use it
[03:17] <[Wiebel] > what software is nice to build a media center on a pc with ubuntu which is connected to a tv?
[03:17] <nny> [Wiebel]  MythTV
[03:17] <bmonkey> nny: i can with some mac tools, thx alot :D
[03:17] <[Wiebel] > nny: does that more then tv?
[03:17] <constantine-xvi> Shinzetsu: sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:18] <nixen9> Wiebe, Freevo is nice too
[03:18] <nny> bmonkey good ludk
[03:18] <nny> luck too
[03:18] <Shinzetsu> thx
[03:18] <[Wiebel] > nixen9: i've seen freevo , it looks ok indeed
[03:18] <nny> [Wiebel]  it does weather, rss, movies, music, mame, tv, and i think it'll make you breakfast if you're nice to it
[03:18] <scrilla-> how do i uninstall an installed package?
[03:18] <LorandKA> any ideeas why my soundcard isn't detected?
[03:18] <[Wiebel] > nny ok :)
[03:18] <constantine-xvi> Shinzetsu: i would do that from a text console (Ctrl+alt+f1) to be safe
[03:18] <nny> [Wiebel]  try em both!
[03:18] <nixen9> Wiebie, still using v 1 but i find it's simpler to run/config/modify that Myth
[03:19] <nny> nixen9 yeah never had the easiest time configuring a myth box...
[03:19] <[Wiebel] > nny i will :>
[03:19] <gnomefreak> constantine-xvi: only issue is it wont remove gnome that way
[03:19] <nixen9> nny, yea same here all this icon freak me out ;)
[03:19] <[Wiebel] > nixen9: well you only have to config it once :)
[03:19] <nny> hmm so anyone here know how to install JUST the 686-smp kernel without having it try to install nvidia packages?
[03:20] <nixen9> Wiebel, yeah but you need to GO the the end ;)
[03:20] <[Wiebel] > ow well, I'll manage :)
[03:20] <incandenza> nny: yes, and several people told you a few minutes ago
[03:20] <nny> [Wiebel]  nice way to try myth is knoppmyth btw
[03:20] <[Wiebel] > hmm ok
[03:20] <yuheng108> xfontsel can't detect ttf-arphic-uming font, can someone help me?
[03:20] <nny> incandenza well snap! i missed it, my bad :P
[03:20] <nixen9> nny, i'm kidding i'm sure MythTV is really nice and perhaps better than freevo for the -tv stuff, tv stuff that i don't use so...
[03:20] <[Wiebel] > nny is it complete?
[03:21] <incandenza> nny: just install the linux-686 package
[03:21] <nny> incandenza frogzoo thanks, but sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp reports back nvidia deps...
[03:21] <nny> well not deps
[03:21] <nixen9> ryanakca, FYI i'm building insight from the source to give him (and me) a last chance ;)
[03:21] <incandenza> those are only suggestions
[03:21] <nny> "recommended...
[03:21] <incandenza> ignore 'em
[03:21] <nny> yeah how do i tell it "no"?
[03:22] <nny> apt-get wants to install em, so does aptitude
[03:22] <incandenza> it won't install those unless you actually select them
[03:22] <LorandKA> my soundcard isn't detected. any workaround?
[03:22] <nny> incandenza not using synaptic, have no X
[03:22] <burepe> anyone know a faq to help me set up an apache server (with mysql and drupal)?
[03:22] <nny> incandenza using aptitude, apt-get
[03:22] <incandenza> I know
[03:22] <incandenza> apt-get won't install those packages
[03:22] <incandenza> that's why they're under "recommended"
[03:22] <nny> incandenza it is though :\
[03:23] <ducky-_-> hi folks
[03:23] <incandenza> well, I just did it a few minutes ago
[03:23] <incandenza> and it didn't install any of those
[03:23] <ducky-_-> can`t install ubuntu from live cd says failed to create partition
[03:23] <nny> incandenza it says the FOLLOWING packages will be installed, including nvidia-kernel-common
[03:23] <nny> the others are recommended, but that one stays
[03:23] <frogzoo> nny: recommmended don't get installed unless you explicitly request it
[03:23] <incandenza> nny: paste it?
[03:24] <roe> LorandKA: what do you mean its not detected? the kernel doesn't see the physical card or the module for it isn't loading
[03:24] <nny> hmm using bitchx, not easily done
[03:24] <gholen> So, att the boot, choose "start or installl ubuntu" then, in GDM, choose safe terminal and in terminal, type ./install.sh, is that correct?
[03:24] <scrilla-> how do i make a list of my installed packages
[03:24] <LorandKA> no volume control element and or devices found...
[03:24] <LorandKA> roe
[03:25] <nny> incandenza frogzoo so for the sake of argument, lets say it wants to install nvidia-kernel-common, whats the juju to tell apt-get "no"
[03:25] <npster> How do I make a file uneditable, under any circumstances unless i do Sudo ... ?
[03:25] <LorandKA> theres a red x near the speaker
[03:25] <roe> LorandKA: from the command line do an lspci and see if you can find the actual card there
[03:25] <cappiz> is there a way to encrypt your whole system... so you need a password for it to boot?
[03:25] <nny> incandenza frogzoo or better yet "never"
[03:25] <nny> cappiz you can pass protect grub...
[03:25] <burepe> !apache
[03:25] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:26] <roe> cappiz: do you want to encrypt your system or pasword protect your boot?
[03:26] <nny> cappiz not the same thing, but seeing as how an entirely encrypted fs would be slower than norm, it's a decent start.. if you are worried about someone mounting the disk otherwise, than encrypt only whats sensitive
[03:26] <incandenza> nny: well, here's what it looks like for me: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19472
[03:26] <nny> slower than norm or impossible*
[03:26] <scrilla-> dpkg-reconfigure locales
[03:26] <scrilla-> heh
[03:26] <nny> incandenza that link is a nice tease, but bitchx doesn't support much
[03:26] <incandenza> you can't follow a link?
[03:27] <bersace> Hello, how to burn an oversized iso (powerpc or amd64 for instance) ?
[03:27] <nixen9> ryanakca, build insight from cvs snapshot, it's seems to works fine :)
[03:27] <nny> incandenza so this system has a setting somewhere that make sit think nvidia-kernel-common is needed, regardless of what your sys says, and i need to change that
[03:27] <nixen9> ls
[03:27] <cappiz> roe both
[03:28] <Shinzetsu> when I log in w/ either gnome or kde, it returns me to the login screen
[03:28] <Shinzetsu> i can only use gnome safe mode or console
[03:28] <mp3guy> how can I disable the fsck that runs on startup every 30 moounts?
[03:28] <cappiz> in windows i got a totaly encrypted system
[03:28] <nny> nixen9's ls = pr0n (500 Gigs) stolenmoozic (300 Gigs)
[03:28] <nny> :)
[03:28] <nixen9> ^^ i did switch my window too fast ^
[03:28] <nny> someone needs to write a bot to respond to accidental bash entries
[03:29] <nny> in IRC*
[03:29] <Shinzetsu> also how do i add new users to my pc?
[03:29] <roe> cappiz: ok, I would google for encrypted filesystem, there is alot to know about it
[03:29] <petemc> mp3guy: tune2fs
[03:29] <incandenza> nny: seems it would have to be a dependency on something else, then...  if you just do 'apt-get install' does it try to install it?
[03:30] <roe> cappiz: as far as bootlocking your system, this link should help http://linsec.ca/syshardening/bootlock.php
[03:30] <cappiz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120097
[03:30] <nny> incandenza no
[03:30] <mp3guy> petemc, how do I use that
[03:30] <nny> incandenza i am purposely trying to avoid it as I want to install binary drivers
[03:30] <petemc> mp3guy: it has a man page
[03:31] <nixen9> i'm a little newb about this, if a build a more recent package of a program that the one in the repo, should (by gentle) and submit this to someone/thing ?
[03:31] <ducky-_-> anyone can help me ?
[03:31] <LorandKA> ok, so lspci isn't showing the ess card
[03:31] <LorandKA> roe
[03:32] <roe> if its not in lspci then the OS doesn't see your physical card, try reseating it
[03:32] <LorandKA> it's integrated..
[03:32] <roe> can your pastebin your lspci output
[03:32] <LorandKA> in ms it works
[03:32] <roe> you*
[03:33] <LorandKA> pastebin? :P
[03:33] <tomveens> somebody rosegarden fan?
[03:33] <roe> !pastebin
[03:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:33] <sg> hey i hvae a sound problem
[03:33] <sg> audacity and other mixxx/terminatorX dont detect my sound thing
[03:33] <bijan> me too :D
[03:33] <sg> but xmms and anywhere else it works.....
[03:34] <yuheng108> xfontsel can't detect ttf-arphic-uming font, can someone help me?
[03:34] <LorandKA> roe, ok it's on hte pastebin
[03:34] <sg> ut how come xmms can play sound but not audacity
[03:34] <roe> LorandKA: now paste the link in here so I can see :)
[03:35] <bmonkey> nny: it worked!!! i disabled journaling with "cocktail" and now i can write :D
[03:35] <Alpha232> Morning
[03:35] <LorandKA> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19473
[03:35] <dapet> Anyone can give me the site with Networking help?
[03:36] <dapet> I have tried to google it without any outcome :(
[03:36] <roe> LorandKA: 3 Network cards?
[03:36] <lhds> i have a program that runs under root privileges... how to create an icon for it
[03:36] <LorandKA> roe, yes :)
[03:37] <sg> my audio device isnt even showing up in audacity
[03:37] <sg> how come xmms can play muic
[03:37] <sg> muic*
[03:37] <npster> What this commands do: sudo chmod -r /etc/resolv.conf ????
[03:37] <LorandKA> eth0 for my home net, eth 1 has the the modem plugged in and eth 3 for the metro net
[03:37] <Alpha232> I'm having trouble building a kernel module, i thought I had all the header packages i needed but i am getting this error, make[3] : Entering directory `/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build' make[3] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
[03:38] <[b] urk> lhds, make a launcher and in the exec-thing type: gksu <progname> or gksudo <progname>
[03:38] <npster> What chmod -r is for
[03:38] <npster> ???
[03:38] <Alpha232> npster: man chmod
[03:38] <gholen> is ubuntuforums down again?
[03:38] <npster> There is no explanation for -r
[03:38] <Alpha232> npster: but i'll give you a hint, same as   -r for  rm
[03:39] <[Ex0r] > npster- means recursive
[03:39] <halibut> Is there any way I can see all traffic that's going through my router (belkin) ?
[03:39] <Paladine> !restricted
[03:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:39] <npster> How do I make a file read only, but to still change that
[03:39] <sg> hey XMMS is using ALSA 1.2.10 output plugin, in audacity its not detected what can i do?
[03:39] <Xamusk> hello
[03:39] <Alpha232> npster: not quite sure what you're asking
[03:40] <longwave> "chmod -r /etc/resolv.conf" doesn't make any sense, the R should be capitalised, you need a permissions option before the file spec, and you're only modifying a single file so you don't need to recurse anyway
[03:40] <Alpha232> longwave: maybe he is thinking attrib in dos? ;)
[03:40] <XplOzIon> hmm
[03:40] <LorandKA> *sigh*
[03:40] <npster> alpha232: I need to make /etc/resolv.conf read only for the system
[03:40] <longwave> oh wait, maybe the -r is part of a permission spec
[03:40] <nox-Hand> Hey
[03:41] <[Ex0r] > npster- use sudo a+r /etc/resolv.conf
[03:41] <Alpha232> longwave: ahhh  i am so used to doing it as octals
[03:41] <roe> LorandKA: not sure what to tell ya, its definetly not there
[03:41] <longwave> npster: maybe "sudo chmod a-w /etc/resolv.conf" will work - a-w means "remove write permission for all"
[03:41] <LorandKA> roe :(
[03:41] <npster> But I can still change it to read write and with what command ?
[03:41] <roe> LorandKA: do you know what chipset is expected?
[03:41] <[Ex0r] > npster- +/-r is for read +/- w is for write
[03:41] <LorandKA> ess
[03:41] <longwave> npster: using "a+w" instead of "a-w" will add the write permission back again
[03:41] <Xamusk> I have a server providing XDMCP. I want that machine to also be a proxy (non-transparent). But how do I block the non-proxy http traffic, without blocking the proxy's own access?
[03:42] <npster> ok
[03:42] <longwave> npster: you probably want "o+w" though so only the owner (root) can write
[03:42] <Nilsy> longwave, but that will give all write access to it
[03:42] <Alpha232> Xamusk:  which machine is acting as your firewall?
[03:42] <[Ex0r] > Nilsy- I believe that's why he corrected himself :)
[03:43] <Nilsy> o+w ? dont you mean u+w
[03:43] <npster> I need that the system MUST NOT change that file
[03:43] <longwave> argh
[03:43] <longwave> yeah i get those mixed up :(
[03:43] <ducky-_-> can`t install ubuntu failed to create partition what can i do ??????????????/
[03:43] <Nilsy> yeah ... but he corrected it to o+w which would be just as bad ;)
[03:43] <Whatsisname> if the system must not change it then do a-w
[03:43] <npster> OK
[03:43] <Xamusk> Alpha232, the XDMCP server itself... but the traffic passes through another firewall too in the lan
[03:43] <[Ex0r] > npster- Than you need sudo chmod a-w /etc/resolve.conf
[03:44] <longwave> yes
[03:44] <longwave> to add write permission again use "sudo chmod u+w /etc/resolv.conf", not what i said earlier!
[03:44] <LorandKA> guess i'll stick with no sound
[03:45] <Alpha232> Xamusk: so are the hosts you are trying to block route through the proxy? or are they peers and all sit on the same side of somthing that routes their traffic
[03:45] <Xamusk> Alpha232, however, I want the machines using XDMCP to be isolated from the outer lan, but I don't know how to do it as the clients using XDMCP act as if in the server machine itself
[03:45] <scena> Can someone help me to get the cups-lpd service running in Dapper?
[03:46] <bijan> hey guys, Im using a 5.1 headset with my audigy 2 zs, 7.1 works and stereomode too, but the 5.1 headset doesnt how can I solve this problem?
[03:46] <Alpha232> Xamusk: ok i am slightly confused what XDMCP has to do with this...   are you running an X server for X terminals to use?
[03:46] <scena> i need the LPD/LPD part running in order to set up print servers.
[03:46] <sg> cmon guysn o one knows
[03:46] <Xamusk> Alpha232, right now they don't, but I will set fixed IPs so that they do route through the XDMCP server too... but the biggest problem is that, as they are using XDMCP, the http traffic acts as if coming from the server itself, instead of the clients
[03:46] <sg> dont u guys build programs
[03:47] <Alpha232> Xamusk: ooookay, now i understand...
[03:47] <sg> how can  i fix this error ? checking readline/readline.h usability... no checking readline/readline.h presence... no checking for readline/readline.h... no configure: error: could not find readline header files
[03:47] <Alpha232> Xamusk: thats an interesting question... gimme a few..
[03:48] <Xamusk> so, the problem actually lies in that I don't know how to sort the proxy traffic from the rest
[03:48] <LorandKA> roe ,any other ideeas?
[03:48] <longwave> sg: install the libreadline-dev package
[03:48] <nixen9> sg, you probably need to install the developement (-dev) package of the lib (readline clib donno)
[03:49] <Alpha232> Xamusk: well... you might need an application level firewall... or if ipchains/tables understands which UID is origiinating traffic which it should... lemme look into that for you
[03:49] <longwave> Xamusk: can you not push all HTTP traffic through the proxy, or do you want to have the clients only go through there?
[03:49] <roe> LorandKA: do you know what chipset is expected?
[03:50] <LorandKA> for the sound controller?
[03:50] <roe> yea
[03:50] <LorandKA> it's ess
[03:50] <Xamusk> longwave, the problem is that the clients use XDMCP, so the traffic looks like it originates in the server itself, and if I block the server, I also block the proxy
[03:50] <TheGateKeeper> sg: apt-get install synaptic, then search for readline and dev
[03:50] <Alpha232> Xamusk: do you use ipchains or iptables?
[03:50] <Alpha232> longwave: don't worry i have the sollution ;)
[03:51] <longwave> ok :)
[03:51] <Xamusk> Alpha232, yes... but I only found ways to do application level firewall with patches
[03:51] <npster> sudo chmod a+w doesn't work ??? command not found
[03:51] <roe> LorandKA: how old is this laptop?
[03:51] <LorandKA> it's not a laptop
[03:51] <Alpha232> Xamusk: well thats true, you are going to have to install it with an extension
[03:51] <LorandKA> it's a compaq deskpro
[03:51] <longwave> npster: which is not found? try "sudo" and "chmod" on their own to check
[03:51] <LorandKA> about...5 years..dunno
[03:51] <burepe> Can you copy from a vnc server and paste in to a vnc client?
[03:52] <roe> LorandKA: and there ya have it :)
[03:52] <Alpha232> Xamusk: you need the "Owner Match" extension, The owner match extension isn't necessarily included in your distribution's stock kernel; it's considered an experimental feature (by the Linux kernel team, not necessarily by the iptables team), so you may need to compile it yourself. Its source code, however, is part of the standard 2.4 kernel codebase, so this is done easily with any recent version of your distribution's (2.4.x) kernel sourc
[03:52] <LorandKA> i just thought, it might work..
[03:52] <roe> LorandKA: we can get it to work :)
[03:52] <LorandKA> :)
[03:52] <Alpha232> Xappe: now that being said, that was WAY back in the day ;)
[03:52] <Xamusk> Alpha232, yeah, but I haven't found an extension that doesn't have to apply to the kernel itself... instead of just making an external module... I still shiver from remembering the last time I tried to make a patch to the ubuntu kernel
[03:52] <roe> LorandKA: just didn't have the bit of information
[03:52] <Shinzetsu> Wether i try to log in on gnome, kde or xfce it returns me back to the login screen
[03:52] <LorandKA> true
[03:53] <LorandKA> i have used debian sarge b4, the same problem
[03:53] <Alpha232> Xamusk: i know, but iptables is part of the kernel and you need to adapt that, to support what you want
[03:53] <LorandKA> guessd that with tis might work
[03:53] <Alpha232> Xamusk: hold a second
[03:53] <burepe> I figured it out
[03:53] <roe> LorandKA: Your sound card is ISA, the kernel module required to detect isa devices "isapnp" I don't believe is built in by default
[03:54] <npster> Type error :)
[03:54] <longwave> Alpha232: isn't there a way of passing packets to userland and filtering them there? though that may be a bit slow for the amount of traffic
[03:54] <LorandKA> ok, so what should i do?
[03:54] <roe> LorandKA: I am locating the info for you gonna take a min
[03:54] <LorandKA> okwy
[03:54] <Alpha232> longwave: i did it once, many years ago, but that was before iptables was 100% internal
[03:54] <LorandKA> take your time
[03:54] <roe> LorandKA: :)
[03:55] <roe> Hey all are the forums down?
[03:55] <Alpha232> longwave: plus he would need to recompile to enable userland i believe
[03:55] <Alpha232> aha!!!!
[03:56] <Alpha232> Xamusk: ok do   man iptables and look for          --uid-owner userid              Matches if the packet was created by a process with the given effective user id.
[03:56] <TheGateKeeper> roe: looks like it, yet again :-(
[03:56] <roe> doh
[03:56] <Alpha232> longwave: looks like its builtin now ;)
[03:57] <roe> LorandKA: if the forums were up, there looks like there is a thread of people with the same issue, although I can't get to it to know for sure
[03:57] <Alpha232> Xamusk: you'll most likely want to look at   --gid-owner
[03:57] <Shinzetsu> Wether i try to log in on gnome, kde or xfce it returns me back to the login screen
[03:57] <nixen9> Shinzetsu, is your HD full ?
[03:58] <Shinzetsu> nope
[03:58] <Shinzetsu> it worked fine, now i turn it on and it wont log me on=\
[03:58] <nixen9> Shinzetsu, so i don't know sorry
[03:58] <Ronz> which file do i have to edit to get my drive to mount at startup? i forget where the file is
[03:58] <HaFa> Shinzetsu did u modified the user rights on the /tmp Folder?
[03:58] <nixen9> /etc/fstab
[03:58] <TheGateKeeper> roe: if you any good with any other languages you could always try one of them, dutch is working for instance :-)
[03:58] <Ronz> thats it! thx
[03:58] <Shinzetsu> nope
[03:58] <Xamusk> Alpha232, hmmm... that looks like it
[03:58] <blup|patrick> btw. has someone figured out how to run cs2's photoshop and illustrator in linux?
[03:58] <blup|patrick> is it even possible?
[03:58] <Shinzetsu> maybe i need to reinstall x?
[03:59] <HaFa> which rights are set to the /tmp folder ?
[03:59] <nixen9> photoshop 6 yes, 7 seems ok but any version upper is out of reach i think
[03:59] <roe> TheGateKeeper: I have enough trouble with english :P
[03:59] <Alpha232> Xamusk: here is the key...
[03:59] <blup|patrick> nixen9: :/
[03:59] <TheGateKeeper> roe: know the feeling :-)
[03:59] <blup|patrick> and i haven tfound color managment tool for linux yet...
[03:59] <Xamusk> Alpha232, thanks a lot! I will fine-tune my rules and try to get that working
[04:00] <Alpha232> Xamusk: you want their primary GID to specify if they have access or not. that way all processes have that id
[04:00] <longwave> Shinzetsu: is there anything useful in the X log file in /var/log?
[04:00] <roe> LorandKA: try from the command line as sudo modprobe isapnp
[04:00] <Alpha232> Xamusk: no problem... now back to getting my question answered ehehe   and yes i'm trying to compile a kernel mod ;)
[04:00] <roe> LorandKA: doubt it will work but...
[04:00] <Alpha232> Xamusk: oh... by the way
[04:01] <Alpha232> Xamusk: you'll want to use the rules on the output side of things
[04:01] <longwave> Alpha232: that is a pretty neat solution using iptables, i knew it had some advanced modules but hadn't seen that one before
[04:01] <Shinzetsu> not that i know of
[04:01] <npster> WHAT CONTROLS THE CONTENTS OF /ETC/RESOLV.CONF ?
[04:02] <Alpha232> longwave: it was part of iptables but never compiled in by most dests
[04:02] <Alpha232> npster: turn off the caps
[04:02] <npster> ok
[04:02] <Alpha232> npster: and anything can... as long as they have permission to write to it
[04:02] <Xamusk> Alpha232, yeah, because the packets are getting out from the computer itself
[04:02] <Alpha232> npster: though normally, pppd or dhclient do it
[04:02] <Alpha232> npster: unless you're statically assigned an ip and then you do
[04:02] <Patrick`> how do I determine what version of a package I have installed, with a cli utility?
[04:03] <freemanen> how do I find the cdrom with a program started in wine?
[04:03] <Patrick`> I'm thinking either apt or dpkg
[04:03] <Alpha232> npster: though you can do it yourself anyways, all that resolve.conf does is act as the DNS config
[04:03] <scena> How can I get the cups-lpd service running in Ubuntu 6.06?
[04:03] <Alpha232> Xamusk: pretty much...
[04:03] <burepe> I am reading a faq to set up a LAMP server and it says "After installing PHP
[04:03] <burepe> You may need to increase the memory limit that PHP imposes on a script. Edit the /etc/php5/apache2/php2.ini file and increase the memory_limit value. " Do I need to do that? If so, how?
[04:03] <Alpha232> Xamusk: but before you do anythign with ip tables...
[04:03] <longwave> npster: if you are having problems with resolv.conf then the resolvconf package can help manage it for you
[04:03] <LorandKA> roe: FATAL: Module isapnp not found.
[04:04] <Alpha232> Xamusk: make sure you have a rule to allow you in...   then make sure you have a serial console setup incase you lock yourself out ;)
[04:04] <Ronz> npster, your network prefferences
[04:04] <roe> LorandKA: yea, its gonna have to be compiled I believe
[04:04] <npster> Longwave, how do i get it
[04:04] <roe> anyone know if Breezy had isa support built in to the kernel?
[04:04] <Xamusk> Alpha232, well... the machine itself is a workstation
[04:04] <longwave> npster: "sudo apt-get install resolvconf" but make sure you read the documentation to configure it
[04:04] <LorandKA> sounds bad
[04:04] <roe> LorandKA: hehe :)
[04:04] <TheGateKeeper> roe: cat /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc* && amixer <-- sound card detected any use to you?
[04:04] <LorandKA> or diesn't sound
[04:05] <Xamusk> Alpha232, so I can always go to the terminal in-site
[04:05] <bijan> how to get surround sound with alsa-mixer and audigy 2 zs?
[04:05] <Alpha232> Xamusk: ok well just remember... X runs on tcp ports even locally ;)
[04:05] <npster> longwave: from where do I get it
[04:05] <roe> TheGateKeeper: to me? I don't think so...
[04:05] <Alpha232> Xamusk: so if you boot yourself out, you might find you need to Ctrl-Alt-F1 to a terminal
[04:05] <Shinzetsu> cant i uninstall all desktop envoirments?
[04:05] <Shinzetsu> and just install KDE
[04:05] <Alpha232> Shinzetsu: why not just install Kbuntu?
[04:06] <cappiz> fuck... my laptop doesnt boot the kernel after install
[04:06] <eeve55646> .
[04:06] <Alpha232> cappiz: language please...
[04:06] <Xamusk> Alpha232, so, all I have to do is make a rule only for the 80 port
[04:06] <roe> TheGateKeeper: I am helping LorandKA but it seems that 6.06 doesn't have isapnp built into the kernel so it can't find her/his sound card
[04:06] <Shinzetsu> let me try it
[04:06] <LorandKA> his :P
[04:06] <cappiz> says: Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
[04:06] <eeve55646> i have gta san andreas
[04:06] <cappiz> nothing happens though :S
[04:06] <Alpha232> Xamusk: well   port 80, 8080, 8000, 443,
[04:07] <Alpha232> Xamusk: you might want to block port 21 and 20,
[04:07] <Xamusk> Alpha232, oh, yeah. those too :)
[04:07] <npster> longwave I got it trough Synaptic but how do I start it ?
[04:07] <Alpha232> Xamusk: in reality, if you are locking them down totally
[04:07] <Alpha232> Xamusk: just allow the ports you need for XDMCP
[04:07] <eeve55646> hohoho
[04:07] <Xamusk> Alpha232, that's my intention... and ssh for remote admin
[04:07] <roe> LorandKA: I never like assuming :)... pending some confirmation from the channel here, the "easiest" thing might be to install breezy, the "best" thing would be to compile and install the module you need
[04:08] <LorandKA> there is too quiet here
[04:08] <cappiz> someone knows why that might be?
[04:08] <boricua> when you install a pkg with apt-get install foo  where can i see the contents of that pkg i thought i could go to /var/cache/apt/archieves but i dont see a pkg installed there ?
[04:08] <LorandKA> roe i might try the best :P
[04:08] <ta-ru> gg
[04:08] <longwave> npster: look at the README file in /usr/share/doc/resolvconf, it will tell you how to configure it
[04:08] <roe> LorandKA: good answer :)
[04:08] <azureal> hi, can anyone explain a few rtorrent basics to me, or guide me to the appropriate channel?
[04:09] <LorandKA> ok
[04:09] <LorandKA> ,so let's begin
[04:09] <azureal> ok... such as having multiple torrents
[04:09] <shawnr_> I have vlc & mplayer firefox plugin. How can i set firefox to use vlc instead of mplayer
[04:09] <azureal> or having it continue uploading after I exit
[04:09] <roe> LorandKA: we first need the tools
[04:09] <Alpha232> azureal:    rtorrent is awesome
[04:09] <LorandKA> tools...
[04:10] <azureal> nod, it is awesome =)
[04:10] <roe> there is a package that has them all, (make, gcc...)
[04:10] <Alpha232> azureal: you do want to look at the manpage though, it explains everything...
[04:10] <roe> but I forget the name
[04:10] <gabaug> roe: build-essential
[04:10] <azureal> alpha232--yes, i looked at it
[04:10] <roe> thanx :)
[04:10] <gabaug> I have "g++ [...]  -lXmu", and I have libxmu installed..but b/c there is not -shared in the g++ call, it's looking for the static lib, right?  I only see .so's in /usr/lib  ..ideas?
[04:10] <degreez> goodevening all, can someone please help with a problem, im trying to install Vmware tools in a guest OS of ubuntu but am having errors in the untar command..
[04:11] <J_P> hi all
[04:11] <azureal> alpha232: i'm just not sure if i'm closing/starting it up correctly
[04:11] <Alpha232> azureal: downsides are that it doesn't do dht but thats an Azureus thing anyways...    i use rtorrent as my offline seed, i use Az on my laptop and move the files over to my linux box and run rtorrent to continue seeding after i leave
[04:11] <ever> hoohohh
[04:11] <ever> gta rulezz
[04:11] <azureal> alpha232: yes, how do i continue seeding? next time i ran the prog my file was not there
[04:11] <Alpha232> azureal:   well just run   "rtorrent"
[04:11] <ever> onko tl ketn suomesta
[04:11] <iwilcox> Hi...I've got fs corruption issues with my backup drive (thankfully during a test), and I want to blame /something/ for peace of mind.  It's an ext3 fs through a dm-crypt mapping on a USB drive.  I suspect dm-crypt.  Anyone got any ideas how one might go about blaming it?
[04:12] <Alpha232> azureal: you need to tell it what torrent file you want to use every time, its not like Az that keeps a list of which ones are loaded
[04:12] <Alpha232> azureal: if you want to seed EVERYTHING, just    rtorrent *.torrent
[04:12] <shawnr_> I have vlc & mplayer firefox plugin. How can i set firefox to use vlc instead of mplayer
[04:12] <Alpha232> azureal: or just list the filenames you want to seed,     rtorrent file1.torrent file2.torrent
[04:13] <azureal> can i just close xterm while the prog is running? or is that a bad way to close it
[04:13] <Alpha232> azureal: or you can enter them in manually once rtorrent is started by using the Enter key, then typing the path to the torrent
[04:13] <LorandKA> roe , i'm holding the breezy cd in my hand...can you give me a warranty, that it will work?
[04:13] <azureal> (and will it remember the spot if i run rtorrent and add the filename)
[04:13] <Alpha232> azureal: that is a Bad way...   it won't continue to run when you do that
[04:13] <Alpha232> azureal: do   Control-Q to quit, to let it close gracefully
[04:13] <azureal> alpha232: yes, i've been using the enter key meth
[04:14] <Alpha232> azureal: also lookup   screen   if you want to leave it running in the background after you close the terminal
[04:14] <roe> LorandKA: wait about 3mins ok
[04:14] <LorandKA> olk
[04:14] <roe> :)
[04:14] <LorandKA> ok ok ok
[04:14] <scrilla-> like
[04:14] <scrilla-> is there anything better than NTLMAPS?
[04:14] <azureal> ok, and after letting it close gracefully (let's say I didnt finish dling a file)
[04:15] <Alpha232> azureal: next time it starts, it will scan the file and start downloading the pieces that are incomplete
[04:15] <azureal> alpha232: ah, ok, thanks very much =)
[04:15] <Alpha232> azureal: but fair warning... it does not resume partial blocks..
[04:15] <agresor> I have partition ext3  owner is root it is mounted. but have only READ-ONLY permission. How to change that owner or how to chage that permission ?????
[04:15] <azureal> ?
[04:15] <azureal> alpha232: what do you mean by that?
[04:15] <jrib> agresor: chown for owner, chmod for permissions
[04:16] <Alpha232> azureal: so if you are dealing with 4Meg pieces, if you close before the piece finishes, that piece will be discarded and will have to start that piece from the begining
[04:16] <agresor> /dev/hda6  in  /media/hda6
[04:16] <boga> what are the packages that can be used to beautify/enhance GNOME? I have no names, so I cannot install!
[04:16] <Ronz> boga, gdm
[04:16] <jrib> !themes > boga
[04:16] <Ronz> ro go through the
[04:16] <Ronz> yea, what jrib said
[04:16] <azureal> alpha232: so basically i should just leave it on til a file finishes?
[04:16] <frogzoo> scrilla-: ntlmaps is as good as it gets atm
[04:16] <jrib> boga: devilspie, brightside, gdesklets are what I would consider "enhancements", themes make it look the way you want
[04:16] <agresor> jrib,  how ?
[04:17] <Alpha232> azureal: you should leave it even after the file finishes,  Pay Back
[04:17] <Xamusk> Alpha232, anyway, I don't think I have to open ports 443 and stuff... cause the rule for the squid owner will already match the packet
[04:17] <jrib> agresor: if you want to make the user "joe" the owner of every file in /media/hda6, then you would do:   sudo chown -R joe:joe /media/hda6
[04:18] <roe> LorandKA: from command line "sudo modprobe snd-es18xx"
[04:18] <roe> what happens
[04:18] <azureal> alpha232: of course, it's just that something very different from azureus is happeninng
[04:18] <xbehave2> where do programs go when i install them?
[04:18] <frogzoo> agresor: where is it mounted?
[04:18] <agresor> in /media/hda6
[04:18] <frogzoo> xbehave2: dpkg -L package_name
[04:18] <Alpha232> Xamusk: well for security, and to prevent using proxy conn's to get around your blocks... you might only want to open the allowed ports even for the ssh owner
[04:18] <azureal> alpha232: for example, atm i'm downloading 220 and uploading at 600 lol
[04:18] <Alpha232> Xamusk: errr the Proxy owner sorry
[04:19] <frogzoo> agresor: mount |grep /media/hda6 ; ls -ld /media/hda6
[04:19] <nox-Hand> I am attempting to add a printer under the LiveCD as I DESPERATELY need a document from the net printed, and I currrently only have a broken Ubuntu and a cli-based Arch system. Anywho, I add the printer, and it disappears instantly. Any ideas_
[04:19] <azureal> alpha: i'll probably have uploaded 3x the file when i'm done ;)
[04:19] <xbehave2> i need the directory so i can tell firefox to use it, do i type that into console
[04:19] <Alpha232> azureal: umm yeah... i have the feeling you're downloading copyright material...
[04:19] <Alpha232> azureal: all your uploads are being sent to companies that monitor torrents to catch people who download pirated stuff
[04:20] <Xamusk> Alpha232, hmmmm... nice tought... however, I'm not sure if I need that kind of security... as my outer network is waaay less secure than that
[04:20] <williamvb> can i copy things from a NTFS partition to a FAT32 partition without any troubles?
[04:20] <Xamusk> and security of a system is as strong as the weakest link
[04:20] <frogzoo> williamvb: yup, no problem
[04:20] <Alpha232> Xamusk: well if you're responsible for these machines and need to keep them from being naughty.... my rule is to make a solid wall and only poke holes where you need them
[04:20] <Xamusk> anyway, it still is a good practice
[04:20] <Alpha232> Xamusk: well with firewalls its the opposite
[04:21] <williamvb> hmm, thats what i thought but when i try to copy it says "cannot create folder" even though i checked permissions and read only is unchecked and read and write is enabled
[04:21] <azureal> alpha232: there's a reason some companies/sites are still alive
[04:21] <Alpha232> Xamusk: a host is only as secure as the most restrictive firewall in its path
[04:21] <azureal> alpha232: they have clever agreements
[04:21] <agresor> frogzoo, i done it with sudo chown -R agresor:agresor /media/hda6
[04:21] <agresor> but when i retart it
[04:21] <Xamusk> Alpha232, yes... I still shiver whenever I see my firewall's rules... not set by me of course, but full of holes... one day I even found a misconfig in the outer squid
[04:21] <agresor> it will stay ?
[04:21] <n3m3s1s4u> anyone here can help me with a tightvncserver question?
[04:21] <degreez> is somone has any idea how to isntall vmware tools for ubuntu as a guest os could u please help
[04:21] <agresor> or i have to restart ?
[04:21] <frogzoo> agresor: what I want to know is what those commands returned
[04:22] <Alpha232> azureal: umm ok whatever, but the point is this, your rtorrent client doesn't support SafePeers which az does... which is why you have so many more connections in rtorrent
[04:22] <LorandKA> roe FATAL: Module snd_esl8xx not found.
[04:22] <azureal> hmm...
[04:22] <Alpha232> azureal: food for thought
[04:23] <rambo3> sudo updatedb && locate snd_esl8
[04:23] <Alpha232> but now time to be selfish...  its time for ME to ask for help lol...
[04:23] <scrilla-> how do i make an ISO image off my ubuntu CD so I can mount it as if it was my CD-ROM and stop using my CD everytime it asks for it?
[04:23] <frogzoo> scrilla-: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=ubuntu.iso bs=10000000
[04:23] <Nogimics> scrilla- why does it ask for the cd?
[04:23] <rambo3> mkiso
[04:23] <roe> LorandKA: the L should be a one "1"
[04:24] <nalioth> scrilla-: just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the 'deb cdrom' line  (put a # at the beginning of that line)
[04:24] <Xamusk> Alpha232, my biggest problem is that the XDMCP traffic passes through the outer network, and XDMCP is not secure by any standards... the biggest problem really is budget... If I had a single switch more, it would be much better... cause one only has to change the manual IP to dhcp to bypass all that security
[04:24] <Nogimics> Why dont you just change the source to get from repo's rather than the cd?
[04:24] <scrilla-> ok sec
[04:24] <scrilla-> ill do that
[04:24] <scrilla-> a quick question
[04:24] <scrilla-> when i use VINO-server
[04:24] <scrilla-> i can connect to my ubuntu box remotely
[04:25] <scrilla-> however mos of the stuff wont refresh and i see nothing but the border of the windows
[04:25] <LorandKA> roe: ??
[04:25] <roe> LorandKA: not esl but es18xx
[04:25] <Alpha232> anyone know how to get the slmodem drivers working?
[04:25] <shawnr_> I have vlc & mplayer firefox plugin. How can i set firefox to use vlc instead of mplayer
[04:26] <williamvb> when i try to copy thigns from a NTFS partition to a FAT32 partition it says cannot create folder and it doesnt copy. i made sure that read only is unchecked in the permissions and i made sure read and write was enabled on that drive
[04:26] <jrib> shawnr_: remove the mplayer plugin
[04:27] <LorandKA> roe: FATAL: Error inserting snd_es18xx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/isa/snd-es18xx.ko): No such device
[04:27] <LorandKA> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_es18xx
[04:27] <TheGateKeeper> shawnr_: workaround: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/446/
[04:27] <shawnr_> thanks
[04:27] <scrilla-> brb
[04:27] <rambo3> LorandKA on that massage i would say its a wrong driver for your sound card
[04:27] <williamvb> nvm i found what i did wrong, i forgot to enable wiritng through the actions menu
[04:28] <gilianima> after installing the phpbb2 package, how to configure it ? where is it installed ?
[04:28] <Rikkimaru> if I want to search through a bunch of files for a specific piece of text, how can I figure out which file it is in?  Currently I'm lessing and greping, but this doesn't give me the file name.
[04:28] <LorandKA> its ess audiodrive
[04:29] <jrib> Rikkimaru: grep -H
[04:29] <frogzoo> Rikkimaru: find . -exec grep blah {} \; -print | less                is what I do - it's ugly, but it works
[04:29] <roe> LorandKA: try "sudo modprobe snd-es168"
[04:29] <rambo3> LorandKA you did check alsa.org that driver fits and all
[04:30] <Rikkimaru> jrib: -H just put '(standard input):' on the edge of the screen
[04:30] <mathieu> frogzoo: how about grep -r bleh .  ?
[04:30] <jrib> Rikkimaru: that's not what my man page says :/
[04:31] <trappist> yeah grep -r is the way to go there
[04:31] <jrib> Rikkimaru: what command are you issuing exactly?
[04:31] <Rikkimaru> less * | grep -H get_user, which makes sense, b/c it is from std input.  How do I make grep read the files?
[04:31] <frogzoo> mathieu: I think the winner is 'grep -rH blah /xxx'
[04:31] <trappist> grep -r foo .
[04:32] <Rikkimaru> jrib: nm
[04:32] <Rikkimaru> jrib: got it to work
[04:32] <mathieu> unfortunately not all grep implementations understand -r (like the one on Tru64)
[04:32] <trappist> thought -H was default
[04:32] <trappist> prints filenames here
[04:32] <trappist> without -H that is
[04:32] <jrib> trappist: for me as well, I just mentioned it because it wasn't showing up for him
[04:32] <frogzoo> seems -r anticipates -H
[04:33] <trappist> jrib: probably because he was using find, which sends files to grep one at a time.  grep won't print filenames for single-file searches.
[04:33] <trappist> frogzoo: right.
[04:33] <frogzoo> mathieu: k, that works much better, thx
[04:33] <scrilla-> how do i install apache 1 + php?
[04:33] <scrilla-> apt-get install apache?
[04:33] <scrilla-> yet that would fetch apache2
[04:33] <burepe> !apache