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[21:32] <gordonjcp> SplasHX11: and for maintaining a server, X is totally useless
[21:32] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: xfce has a settings daemon now days, because simple and solid wasn't enough I suppose.  ANyway, xfce-settings-daemon tends to segfault and die after a few clicks or keypresses into a vncserver session.  If you want XFCE with ubuntu 12.x, you need to run xfvb + x11vnc.
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> afallenhope: yes, but the old stuff would be in the folder you renamed to, wouldn't it?
[21:32] <dhanasekaran> Hi How to find active ftp download going on my server
[21:32] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: Did you hit him with something very heavy?  A cluestick hopefully?
[21:32] <ray76> Kyle__  hope i have done this right http://pastebin.com/Zk5JYXcZ
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: oh very
[21:32] <SplasHX11> Kyle:: no, i only tried it over ssh:  x11vnc -forever -nevershared -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -display :0
[21:32] <afallenhope> ActionParsnip, it's still a tedious task to move from one profile to another my solution was easier
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> dhanasekaran: you can use netstat on port 22
[21:33] <afallenhope> ActionParsnip,  echo > ~/.mozilla/firefox/downloads.sqlite
[21:33] <Kyle__> SplasHX11: THat should have done it... what happened?
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> afallenhope: ahhhh
[21:33] <Kyle__> SplasHX11: Of course keep in mind that will die when lightdm dies, which is each time you log out.
[21:33] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, ok - I have the device. but now I get errors instead of scans. "Invalid argument" (xsane) and "unable to connect" (simple-scan)...
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> afallenhope: I don't have that issue, I use Chrome, all synced up. Log in and the settings flow in
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: tried xsane?
[21:34] <afallenhope> ActionParsnip, I use chrome too
[21:34] <afallenhope> I have chromium
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> afallenhope: chromium  isn't chrome :)
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> afallenhope: why 2 browser?
[21:34] <Kyle__> ray76: YOu did it right.  Looks like it switched drivers or something on you.  Can you put the output of xdpyinfo into another pastebin for us?
[21:34] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, "invalid argument"
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: did you try the 2nd link I gave?
[21:35] <ray76> Kyle__ certainly, give us a sec
[21:35] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, yes...
[21:35] <root____6> hi!
[21:35] <afallenhope> ActionParsnip, I'm a developer I need to know what a site looks / functions on both browsers
[21:35] <SplasHX11> gordonjcp: sometimes it is very comfortable to have a gui to configure some things and i maybe want to use it remotely for some "none server things" under lniux, because I use windows as main os
[21:36] <serg> how to understand why apt-get fails in --configure step? are there any logs or any way to enable the verbose/debug mode?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: try#10 here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1089972
[21:36] <cavecartograph> Anyone bored and want to help with a hrad drive issue? Seems to be a problem with going from 8.04 to 12.04...
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> afallenhope: makes sense, I always ask when folks have multiple browsers :)
[21:36] <Kyle__> afallenhope: Does that mean you run the windows version of safari through wine, so you can test that way too?
[21:36] <gordonjcp> SplasHX11: there's nothing on a server that you can configure with a GUI
[21:37] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, "Failed to open device `brother2:net1;dev0': Invalid argument."
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> cavecartograph: did you upgrade  to lucid in between
[21:37] <afallenhope> Kyle__, I have Windows and MaxOS in a virtual machine, so yes
[21:37]  * Kyle__ did set that up a long time ago... was evil.
[21:37] <cavecartograph> Yes
[21:37] <cavecartograph> It may have something to do with crypttab, but I am unsure
[21:37] <afallenhope> IE8 in wine IE 9 through Windows Virtual Box and Safari through Max OS virtualbox
[21:37] <ray76> Kyle__ here you go http://pastebin.com/mD5SNabh
[21:38] <Kyle__> afallenhope: Ahh, VMs are nice.  I did it with wine, along side ies4linux.  Was the most god-awful and glorious thing to see.  A gnome desktop with ie, safari, and firefox (this was way before chrome).
[21:38] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, #10 is what i already did following the instructions from brother...
[21:38] <SplasHX11> Kyle__: it works good, but the resolution is set to 1024x768 and I don't know how to change it to a higer resolution withotu monitor connected. The "-gemoetry" option of x11vnc only scales the output.
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: do you have sane-net installed?
[21:38] <afallenhope> Chrome Windows, Linux and Mac, same goes with Firefox and for Safari just Windows and Mac
[21:38] <Kyle__> SplasHX11: That's because it's the geometry of the running X.  YOu need to change X to be the resolution you want.
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: also look at: man brsaneconfig2
[21:39] <mkiy> casssso
[21:39] <afallenhope> Alrighty it's time to head home take care
[21:39] <mkiy> byevurfufouyobo8toiuybotb
[21:39] <mkiy> no8un0789typ98yn
[21:40] <mkiy> 8y7by8gtboutb
[21:40] <mkiy> b9ubuibpuy
[21:40] <FloodBot1> mkiy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:40] <mkiy> ob08b98yb98y
[21:40] <mkiy> bnob8tb08t7b
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: seems to be:  brsaneconfig2 -a name=FRIENDLY-NAME model=MODEL-NAME ip=xx.xx.xx.xx
[21:40] <mkiy> ytv7trv976rv78v78
[21:40] <mkiy> i6t5v85rv7rv967rv
[21:40] <mkiy> vit5erv76rv976rv976ruyviuy
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2275292
[21:40] <mkiy> 67trc87rcirci66rc6
[21:40] <FloodBot1> mkiy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:40] <mkiy> 7v6r7rv5evr976rv976rb6n
[21:40] <mkiy> b5rv76rv967rv976rv8b89ny+
[21:40] <gordonjcp> mkiy: pack it in
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> !ops | mkiy
[21:41] <sakura37540> Hello. I'm trying to get my built in bluetooth card working. After a lot of internet searching, I found that I have to use ndiswrapper and the windows drivers. So I set that up and installed the driver, but now ndiswrapper says that the driver's installed by the hardware isn't present, even though I know it's the correct hardware / driver. Where should I go from here?
[21:41] <Virunga> Hi, after installed a package name sadms which asked my some questions during installation, this command gives me nothing sudo debconf-get-selections | grep *sadms* . Why? Can you help me, please?
[21:41] <Virunga> I'd like to know the name of the question it asked me.
[21:42] <Kyle__> ray76: Damn.  I was hoping to see something nice and obvious like DRI2 or GLX missing.  that output looks right :/  Last one, xvinfo
[21:42] <SplasHX11> Kyle__: I know that, but I don't know how I can set the resolution of x.
[21:42] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, brsaneconfig2 has no manual - ant apt-get install sane-net returns "unable to locate"... and the link to the forum is exactly the same as the instructions from brother that i followed...
[21:42] <Virunga> I want create a kind of non interactive installation.
[21:43] <tello14> would this be where i could get some help with java? its been rather evil lately.
[21:43] <Kyle__> SplasHX11: Course you can.  Fragment xorg.conf (or full xorg.conf), and specify it.  Supposedly you can change it on the fly with xrandr.
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> tello14: is it installing Java in Ubuntu?
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: http://askubuntu.com/questions/91933/how-do-i-make-the-scanner-function-of-my-brother-dcp-315cn-work
[21:44] <razorbuzz> Upgrade probem from 12.04.1 to 12.10.  Just did update-manager -d. The initramfs portion failed "status code 1". The rest of the process finished, reboot and - Nothing. I get a GRUB prompt telling me there are no kernels installed.
[21:44] <tello14> no i have it installed its just i play Minecraft which uses java to run jar files but all of the sudden, java stoped working for any jar files. i was chattin with a linux guy i know and he couldnt figure it out.
[21:45] <SplasHX11> Kyle__: I tried it with xrandr but only got "cannot finde mode..."
[21:45] <ray76> Kyle__  http://pastebin.com/0MWtRmz6  thanks for the help, the video stopped directly after an update, with video related files. and you can undo them :(
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> tello14: how did you install Java?
[21:45] <Kyle__> SplasHX11: What did xrandr with no options tell you?
[21:45] <tello14> through the software centre
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> tello14: whatpackage did you install?
[21:46] <sakura37540> Hello. I'm trying to get my built in bluetooth card working. After a lot of internet searching, I found that I have to use ndiswrapper and the windows drivers. So I set that up and installed the driver, but now ndiswrapper says that the driver's installed by the hardware isn't present, even though I know it's the correct hardware / driver. Where should I go from here?
[21:46] <tello14> ahh i have both 6 runtime and 7 jdk
[21:46] <Kyle__> ray76: you can,b ut I don't know how.  ActionParsnip Probably woudl.
[21:46] <SplasHX11> Kyle__: "Can't open display"
[21:47] <Kyle__> SplasHX11: I think it needs to be run from the running X session.
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> tello14: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    please
[21:47] <tello14> precise
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> tello14: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[21:48] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, there is a distinct and gratifying noise emerging from the room the scanner is in. thanks a lot :)
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: all I did was search dude.....
[21:49] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, sometimes, even searching correctly requires some experience...
[21:49] <Virunga> Could you help with the debconf-get-selctions command?
[21:49] <tello14> alright it is downloading
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=brsaneconfig2+how+to    is what I used
[21:49] <razorbuzz> Does anybody have any thoughts on a missing kernel after upgrade to 12.10?   Upgrade process removed all 3.2's, said it installed 3.5 but then threw an error on initramfs and now I get a grub command prompt upon attempting to boot.
[21:50] <tello14> k it finished
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> tello14: That is Oracle Java latest, try now
[21:50] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, i tried everything with the name of my device in it...
[21:50] <ray76> Kyle__ thanks for the try! little closer and i now know more.
[21:50] <Kyle__> ray76: Damn.  It really _looks_ like everything is fine, until you hit the glxinfo and see the error.  Did you bounce your box after the upgrade?  Is it somehow not getting the kernel module?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: its not speciic to the device, the command was brsaneconfig so you needed to search for that. All Brother devices use the same command
[21:52] <sakura37540> I can't find an answer by searching, I've installed a driver using ndiswrapper but it says the hardware isn't present, even though I know it's the right driver for my hardware. Where should I go from here?
[21:52] <tello14> alright, i tried it but when the download finished the updater popped up so i will try after i have the updates
[21:52] <ses1984> i'
[21:52] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, as i said - sometimes it requires experience... or superior knowledge... next time, i'm wiser - and i can share that :)
[21:53] <razorbuzz> Box didn't bounce after the update - no kernels.
[21:53] <ses1984> i'm trying to p2v an old ubuntu 10.04 server, using kvm/virt-manager. using virt-manager, i've connected to my kvm host, created a new virtual machine and disk, booted the vm with ubuntu livecd...
[21:53] <ray76> Kyle__  this box is non-PAE so no upgrade for me :( still on 12.04  clean install 2 days ago. all fine until the last update. gutted..  lol at least i was close
[21:54] <ses1984> mounted the virtual disk, rsynced the old disk contents to the new virtual disk, but i can't boot from the virtual disk.
[21:54] <bekks> ses1984: Did you reinstall the bootloader?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: I don't own a brother ANYTHING, I just searched...
[21:55] <sakura37540> Am I just asking a stupid question or something? :/
[21:55] <ses1984> i tried using boot-repair but it finished with an error
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> sakura37540: ndiswrapper won't work for bluetooth
[21:55] <dr_willis> sakura37540: or no one knows.
[21:55] <ses1984> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1305947/
[21:57] <ses1984> i also tried using boot-repair-disk but the UI was completely glitched through virt-manager/vnc
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> ses1984: you could chroot from a liveCD and do things there
[21:58] <razorbuzz> Upgrade to 12.10 failed from 12.04 - grub can't find a kernel. Upgrade removed all 3.2's and installed a 3.5, but initramfs failed (and apparently update-grub did, too?). Tried searching - no results. Any thoughts/help?
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> ses1984: like reinstate the bootloader and remove some of the kernels you no longer use
[21:59] <razorbuzz> No GRUB menu at all. Just a command prompt appears on after 12.10 upgrade
[21:59] <dr_willis> razorbuzz: live cd. chroot in. reinstall kernel.
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> razorbuzz: if you boot to liveCD you can chroot to the installed OS and do stuff there
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> razorbuzz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[22:00] <dr_willis> thats a big bug in the installer sounds like.
[22:00] <razorbuzz> dr_willis.    LiveCD just finished DLing. I get the reinstall kernel. Tip on chroot? (or, a point in the right direct to get direction?
[22:00] <remsSs> hi everybody
[22:00] <ses1984> alright i have the vm booted to live cd and the virtual disk mounted...reading up on chroot now but if anyone knows a guide that explains how to do this that would help a lot
[22:00] <Kyle__> OK.  So to get gnome apps (like firefox) to use a proper proxy, you need to use "gsettings set blah"
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> ses1984: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: firefox isn't a gnome app
[22:01] <razorbuzz> dr_willis, ActionParsnip, Huge bug in the installer.
[22:01] <ses1984> ty
[22:01] <Kyle__> And according to the gnome folks, you can put system-wide configs in /etc/dconf/db .... but there is nothing like that in /etc
[22:01] <razorbuzz> Thanks. I'll follow up if unsuccessful. Rebooting now
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: did you export http_proxy and ftp_proxy to the proxy you use?
[22:02] <tello14> alright actionparsnip, i did evrything, still doesnt work
[22:02] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: The ubuntu build of it appears to be built against gnome.  It didn't honor http_proxy or HTTP_PROXY, but does work if I set a proxy using gsettings
[22:03] <trism> Kyle__: you best bet is probably gsettings vendor overrides in ubuntu, I have not been able to get the system-wide dconf stuff working
[22:03] <dtigue> f/quit
[22:03] <jorgp> when I use boot into livecd how do I get a mx5500 bluetooth keyboard and mouse to work?
[22:03] <jorgp> livecd 12.10
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> jorgp: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-bluetooth-keyboard-and-mouse-in-ubuntu.html
[22:04] <Kyle__> trism: Argh.  Where are the overrides then?
[22:04]  * Kyle__ feels bad for his desk, his head has hit it too many times today.
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> jorgp: may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothInputDevices
[22:04] <trism> Kyle__: /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/ http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/gsettings-override-2011-07-04-15-45
[22:06] <Kyle__> trism: thank you!  I really need to get this all in the default, because most of my users can't be bothered to follow the simplest recipie for something like, setting a proxy.
[22:08] <jorgp> thanks, but I only have a mx5500 keyboard, so I can not even click on try ubuntu
[22:08] <ses1984> well that was pretty easy. i got a little farther. i see the grub menu, but if i choose regular kernel or even recovery, it gets stuck saying fsck--/dev/vda1: clean, then nothing happens
[22:08] <tello14> action?
[22:09] <MyersG> my computer is saying for the sound, dummy out put, and someone help?
[22:10] <tello14> aye java. y u no work anymore
[22:10] <tello14> iv been workin on this for like 5 hours now
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> tello14: that's all I know, the /usr/bin/java will now point to the oracle java. Did you try a reboot?
[22:11] <MyersG> some one please help!
[22:12] <tello14> like a thousand times. ill check if a reboot is what the software need to kick in though. brb
[22:12] <MyersG> my computer is saying for the sound, dummy out put, and someone help?
[22:12] <knoppies> Hi, I am running Xubuntu12.04 I logged into openbox to test something and now all my transparency is messed up. I am assuming a driver/config issue. Any suggestions?
[22:13] <knoppies> I have logged back into XFCE and it is still messed up.
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: is the transparency ok in XFCE or is that where the issue is?
[22:16] <tello14> reboot and no change
[22:17] <Liger12> Whilst installing ubuntuserver 12.04.1 64bit, off of usb using xboot, the install works fine until detecting cd-rom devices comes up and detects them and then freezes on puple screen
[22:17] <Liger12> Could anyone help me?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> tello14: try running the app from terminal, it ma give clues
[22:17] <knoppies> ActionParsnip, the issue is in XFCE (and in openbox but I dont plan on using that again, as I said, it was to test something)
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: what WM do you use in XFCE?
[22:17] <ray76> Kyle__  one last one, assuming this is a bug in the new update, what is the best way to report it?
[22:18] <Kyle__> ray76: ubuntu-bug
[22:18] <tello14> action this was going to be my second question :P know any good terminal tutorials? anyway yea so how can i start a program from terminal?
[22:18] <Kyle__> ray76: You run ubuntu-bug, and it should pop up a gui
[22:18] <defekt> sick of so many updates on lts
[22:18] <ray76> Kyle__  sweet thanks again
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> tello14: what file are you trying to run with java?
[22:18] <Kyle__> ray76: no problem.
[22:18] <tello14> minecraft.jar
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> tello14: where is the file located? The path is VERY case sensitive
[22:19] <peto_> bye
[22:19] <knoppies> ActionParsnip, the XFCE one (I think its called XFWM), but I do have compiz installed (I haven't used it in a long time).
[22:19] <knoppies> ActionParsnip, now that you mention it I dont see it running in htop
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: does xfwm4 support transparency etc?
[22:19] <knoppies> ActionParsnip, yes. Beautifully.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: have you asked in #xubuntu ?
[22:20] <tello14> its in home/downloads
[22:20] <Guest61023> recien instale el 12.10 y no me puedo conectar por wifi
[22:20] <knoppies> ActionParsnip, nope, maybe I should. I just ran xfwm4 --replace but no luck.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> tello14: then run:    java ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar
[22:21] <tello14> Error: Could not find or load main class .home.taylor.Downloads.minecraft.jar
[22:21] <Taylor> Oh
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> tello14: ok, you now have a lead, use the wb to see what that means
[22:22] <tello14> wb?
[22:22] <Liger12> tello14: Trying, java -jar DIROFJAR/minecraft.jar
[22:22] <tello14> sry im new to linux :( i need to learn these things
[22:22] <tello14> alright liger
[22:22] <knoppies> !wb
[22:22] <knoppies> !help
[22:22] <knoppies> thats not the help I was looking for.
[22:23] <tello14> Liger12: Error: Unable to access jarfile DIROFJAR/minecraft.jar
[22:23] <ses1984> i'm trying to convert a physical machine to virtual, and i've been having trouble getting it to boot. i get to grub and choose a kernel, even recovery, and the boot doesn't do anything after fsck of the root partition, in this case /dev/vda1
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> tello14: think about it
[22:23] <Liger12> tello14: The DIROFJAR is where your jar is located,,,,
[22:23] <knoppies> tello14, try ls -l DIROFJAR/minecraft.jar
[22:24] <tello14> knoppies: no such file or deredtory
[22:24] <tello14> i cant spell xD
[22:24] <tello14> err type
[22:24] <Liger12> tello14: Try to run java -jar ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar
[22:25] <ahmad> hi guys, i can't see alot of the settings in compiz-settings-manager such as wobbling windows, any idea why? if this is an error or something
[22:25] <knoppies> ahmad, you probably don't have compiz plugins installed.
[22:25] <reuf> hello how can i set up my ubuntu tu shutdown after 1 hour?
[22:25] <MiningMarsh> tello14: I needed this to get mine to work: java -cp ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[22:25] <knoppies> ahmad, try apt-get install compiz-plugins
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> tello14: the DIROFJAR is ~/Downloads    again....think about it.....
[22:25] <ses1984> it seems people have this problem when there are lines in fstab corresponding to drives that aren't there, like unplugged usb drives or something, but i have just one line in fstab for my root partition
[22:26] <knoppies> reuf, you mean 1 hour from NOW or 1hr of idle time?
[22:26] <reuf> 1 hour from now
[22:26] <knoppies> reuf, shutdown --help
[22:27] <tello14> MiningMarsh: you got it :3
[22:27] <Liger12> Can anyone answer this?
[22:27] <Liger12> Whilst installing ubuntuserver 12.04.1 64bit, off of usb using xboot, the install works fine until detecting cd-rom devices comes up and detects them and then freezes on puple screen
[22:27] <anhday> hi people, can you help me uninstall a package? i did dpkg -i virtualbox-4.2_4.2.2-81494~Ubuntu~precise_amd64.deb
[22:27] <tello14> Exception in thread "Thread-3" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /home/taylor/.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so: /home/taylor/.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause: architecture word width mismatch)
[22:27] <tello14> 	at java.lang.ClassLoader$NativeLibrary.load(Native Method)
[22:27] <tello14> 	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary1(ClassLoader.java:1939)
[22:27] <tello14> 	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary0(ClassLoader.java:1864)
[22:27] <tello14> 	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(ClassLoader.java:1825)
[22:27] <FloodBot1> tello14: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <tello14> 	at java.lang.Runtime.load0(Runtime.java:792)
[22:27] <tello14> 	at java.lang.System.load(System.java:1059)
[22:27] <anhday> how do i uninstall it, i can't find the package from apt-get
[22:27] <MiningMarsh> anhday: sudo apt-get purge virtualbox should work fine
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> tello14: what is the output of:  uname -m
[22:28] <anhday> Package virtualbox is not installed, so not removed
[22:28] <ASHER1> :P FloodBot this very nice how i can install this?
[22:28] <anhday> MiningMarsh, doesn't work :(
[22:28] <Liger12> Tello from the terminal use these commands
[22:28] <MiningMarsh> anhday: if you can't find the package; sudo aptitude search virtualbox
[22:28] <tello14> x86_64
[22:28] <ahmad> there we go :) ty knoppies
[22:28] <Liger12> tello14: cd desktop
[22:29] <knoppies> reuf, or try: sudo shutdown -P 1440 GoodBye
[22:29] <knoppies> ahmad, pleasure.
[22:29] <Liger12> tello14: cd Downloads
[22:29] <ses1984> don't sudo aptitude search, the search index is not always built for the root user
[22:29] <reuf> knoppies: already set it to shutdown
[22:29] <ahmad> brb reboot
[22:29] <reuf> shutdown -h +65
[22:29] <MiningMarsh> tello14: if you have 64bit and a decent amount of ram: java -d64 -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[22:29] <knoppies> reuf, good :)
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> tello14: try:    java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[22:29] <knoppies> reuf, oh yea, its in minutes not seconds, My bad.
[22:30] <reuf> knoppies: thanks
[22:30] <reuf> take care
[22:30] <reuf> bye
[22:30] <tello14> hmm it runs and when it logs in, it blackscreens as before
[22:30] <Juanopsy> Hey, all !! Quick question here...  8 - P
[22:30] <MiningMarsh> tello14: then try: java -d32 -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[22:31] <anhday> i will try later, thanks MiningMarsh
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> tello14: guess how we are finding al this stuff?
[22:31] <tello14> it gave me an error saying it doesnt support 32 bit
[22:31] <Juanopsy> If I go --> "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update" I'll lose my "custom" repositories I've added lately?
[22:31] <knoppies> ActionParsnip, running compiz --replace fixes the issue. So I assume its a problem with xfwm4 or one of its configs. Thankfully its not a driver issue.
[22:31] <jrib> Juanopsy: no
[22:32] <Juanopsy> Thanks man
[22:32] <tello14> haha action im guessing the web :P i searched and i tried to do stuff but evrything i did went very poorly
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: you could add a startup item to run that
[22:32] <Juanopsy> jrib: Thanks man
[22:32] <jrib> Juanopsy: why are you doing that though?
[22:32] <MiningMarsh> tello14: thande the d32 back to d64 then
[22:32] <MiningMarsh> tello14: *change
[22:32] <daniel__> en ingles jaja ja
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> tello14: does MiningMarsh's command work?
[22:33] <tello14> yea it gets me to log in
[22:33] <knoppies> ActionParsnip, I know, but last time I played with compiz it had a few quarks. I wasn't ready to make it full time on XFCE yet.
[22:33] <MiningMarsh> tello14: java -d64 -Xmx256M -Xms128M -cp ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[22:34] <MiningMarsh> tello14: play with those 2 numbers, always making sure the second is half the first, and they are a power of 2. I am thinking its a ram issue. Those control the amount of ram
[22:34] <Juanopsy> jrib:  W:Duplicate sources.list Cairo, as sugested in "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1006592"
[22:34] <knoppies> ActionParsnip, #xubuntu is a ghost channel. Nobody dares to speak.
[22:34] <tello14> marsh, btw it was working well until ysterday
[22:34] <tello14> here i can give you the error i got if you would like it
[22:35] <MiningMarsh> tello14: in that case, rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin
[22:35] <MiningMarsh> tello14: in that case, rm -rf ~/.minecraft/resources
[22:35] <MiningMarsh> tello14: in that case, rm -rf ~/.minecraft/stats
[22:35] <jrib> Juanopsy: could you pastebin your « sudo apt-get update » output?
[22:35] <MiningMarsh> tello14: and try again
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> MiningMarsh: why use force?
[22:36] <Juanopsy> jrib: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ppa.launchpad.net/cairo-dock-team/ppa/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_cairo-dock-team_ppa_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages) W: Maybe you want to execute «apt-get update» to fix this problem
[22:36] <MiningMarsh> ActionParsnip: well, it doesnt touch his saves and doesnt remove anything important. no reason not to, he is not running sudo.
[22:36] <Juanopsy> jrib: but I go update and kkeps there
[22:36] <ahmad> is there a way to set  /set irc_conf_mode on on xchat automatically on start up, very annoying to do this manually everytime
[22:36] <ASHER1> where i can download bot like this floodbot?
[22:37] <tello14> alright i did your commands
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> MiningMarsh: but why do you need force to delete the folder, the files aren't locked and the user is the owner of the data?
[22:37] <jrib> Juanopsy: so did emptying /var/lib/apt/lists/ resolve your issue?
[22:37] <Juanopsy> jrib: I'll try now
[22:37] <tello14> oh btw mining marsh, i have isolated this as a java error
[22:37] <tello14> even in browseer
[22:37] <lenswipe> hey guys
[22:38] <lenswipe> just installed 12.10
[22:38] <lenswipe> i have some mysterious app that keeps crashing
[22:38] <lenswipe> i keep getting crash notifications
[22:38] <lenswipe> and i cant open software center
[22:38] <MiningMarsh> ActionParsnip: habit. I triple check my commands, and have never deleted something important. I just get sick of it asking for every file...
[22:38] <FloodBot1> lenswipe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:38] <MiningMarsh> tello14: the browser saves the stuff in the same place, so my commands whould fix it for the browser too.
[22:38] <lenswipe> if i dismiss the crash notifications, they just reappear a second later as (i presume) the offending app re-starts and crashes again
[22:38] <MiningMarsh> ActionParsnip: I will check to make sure I dont -f next time...
[22:38] <ASHER1> someone can tell me where i can download floodbot1 ?
[22:38] <belgianguy> hmm just my screen switched to a full blank one on my laptop all of the sudden
[22:38] <lenswipe> something is stuck in a sort of crash loop - can someone help?
[22:39] <belgianguy> and I couldn't do anything anymore
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> tello14: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/lib/i386/"; java -jar ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar
[22:39] <belgianguy> which log should I check?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> MiningMarsh: its a REALLY bad habit
[22:39] <belgianguy> (what covers the gfx card?)
[22:39] <tello14> alright. but it my tekkit is messed up. i am (almost) positive it is a java error.
[22:39] <tello14> those are separate jars soo yea...
[22:39] <zorgborg> hey all, once ive updated via the command line is there a way to know if i need to reboot to complete the install or not?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> tello14: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/lib/i386"; java -jar ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> tello14: run the second one
[22:40] <MiningMarsh> ActionParsnip: minecraft wouldnt run with -jar when I tried it, it needed -cp (and -d64 for 64bit)
[22:40] <lenswipe> also im getting "E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[22:40] <Juanopsy> jrib: nope, still there
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> MiningMarsh: ahh, i see. Thanks :). tello14, please adjust
[22:40] <Juanopsy> jrib: suggestions?
[22:41] <lenswipe> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dlists_quantal-security_main_i18n_Translation-en%5fGB
[22:41] <lenswipe> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[22:41] <Laurenceb_> hi
[22:41] <lenswipe> can someone help with this?
[22:41] <tello14> ill be back gotta go for like a half hour ._. ugggggg
[22:41] <jermmal> hi is a new
[22:41] <Laurenceb_> how do i create a multipart zip ?
[22:41] <Laurenceb_> the compress option
[22:41] <Laurenceb_> is greyed
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[22:41] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip:
[22:42] <lenswipe> that will fix it?
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: more than likley yes, I see about 5 of these a DAY on the launchpad site
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: if it didn't fix it, why would I advise it.....
[22:43] <Laurenceb_> ANYONE?
[22:43] <Laurenceb_> multipart zip is greyed out
[22:43] <Troy^> debating on upgrading from ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10. I don't want to break anything and I don't want it to change my desktop configuration got everything looking the way i want it too.
[22:43] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: i ran that - its just hanging right now and not returning me to a prompt
[22:44] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: should it take a few minutes to work?
[22:44] <lenswipe> and should it output anything?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb_: http://superuser.com/questions/184549/how-to-create-multipart-rar-file-in-linux
[22:44] <lenswipe> oh wait its updating the sources no
[22:44] <lenswipe> now*
[22:44] <Laurenceb_> thanx
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: it will take a while to run, one step taks a while
[22:44] <lenswipe> ok
[22:45] <FoxDie> hi
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: its basically removing your systems knowledge of any packages then you will redownload them
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: its basically step 5 from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: I just use a script because I'm lazy
[22:46] <Laurenceb_> is there a way to do this with zip?
[22:46] <Laurenceb_> this has to be sent to windows land?
[22:47] <MiningMarsh> Laurenceb_: windows winrar handled multipart rar files. You cant do it with zip afaik.
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb_: Windows can extract RARs too
[22:47] <Laurenceb_> not out of the box
[22:47] <Laurenceb_> this has to go to a commercial locked down environment
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb_: then read:  man zip
[22:47] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: do you know how easy it is to replace Unity with gnome3?
[22:48] <Laurenceb_> kk
[22:48] <graingert> Laurenceb_: you could use .7z and PeaZip in windows land
[22:48] <Laurenceb_>  _I_  could
[22:48] <graingert> Laurenceb_: where are you sending this file?
[22:48] <Laurenceb_> person in anonymous government office couldnt
[22:49] <graingert> Laurenceb_: surely Anonymous can extract a rar
[22:49] <Laurenceb_> lol lol lol
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb_: you can make a zip file then use zipsplit to make it into smaller chunks
[22:49] <graingert> Laurenceb_: how large is this file? Why does it even need splitting?
[22:49] <graingert> Laurenceb_: why not make a self extracting .7z
[22:49] <Laurenceb_> i have a ton of pdf archives that need to be sent to windows office drone land via email with 10MB max size
[22:49] <Laurenceb_> a few hundered meg
[22:50] <graingert> Laurenceb_: send him a .torrent
[22:50] <Laurenceb_> i didnt dream up this absurd situation
[22:50] <Laurenceb_> hahaha
[22:50] <Laurenceb_> maybe ill just drive to the office with a cd
[22:50] <Rigorm0rtis> Laurenceb_, what are you trying to do?
[22:50]  * Rigorm0rtis arrived late.
[22:50] <Karlo_> What's wrong with using the "split" command?
[22:50] <Laurenceb_> i see
[22:51] <Newb101> How do you hide your ip adress when accessing a website?
[22:51] <Laurenceb_> can i split the zip later?
[22:51] <graingert> Karlo_: drone will not be able to cat the files
[22:51] <graingert> Laurenceb_: am I right?
[22:51] <Newb101> is it easier to do through command line
[22:51] <Kyle__> Newb101: Hide it from the website you're going to?
[22:51] <Newb101> ye
[22:51] <jbohren> anyone here familiar with the default python search paths on ubuntu?
[22:51] <Rigorm0rtis> Laurenceb_,  Could you use SkyDrive or something and send them a link?
[22:52] <jrib> jbohren: please just ask your real question
[22:52] <Laurenceb_> no they are filewalled
[22:52] <Laurenceb_> files can only enter the office via email
[22:52] <Newb101> anyone
[22:52] <Laurenceb_> and thats limited to 10mb
[22:52] <Laurenceb_> hence the problem
[22:52] <Kyle__> Newb101: if box A gets a webpage from box B, there is no way for A to hide his IP from B.
[22:52] <jrib> Newb101: use tor or a proxy
[22:52] <ex0a> Newb101: you need to proxy to the page
[22:53] <Rigorm0rtis> What is the average size of the PDF files?
[22:53] <Newb101> ok are thereany reliable proxies
[22:53] <Kyle__> Newb101: If box A uses a proxy or VPN to box E, to connect to box B, box B will see the connection as being from E.
[22:53] <jbohren> I'm trying to override a debian-installed python module by prepending a local path to my PYTHONPATH, except when I load up a python environment, there are always a few additional paths prefixed before any of the paths in my PYTHONPATH, and I can't figure out how to suppress them
[22:53] <jiffe98> if ubuntu doesn't boot the first time or it reboots in the middle of a boot, grub doesn't automatically choose the default option on the second boot, is there a way to change this?
[22:53] <Newb101> fair enough
[22:53] <graingert> Laurenceb_: send them a PDF with an emscriptened version of Skype. Run Tor over the connection that Skype punches through the firewall. You can then host a hidden service and download the PDFs from there
[22:54] <Kyle__> Newb101: think long and hard about why you want to be doing this.
[22:54] <Newb101> If I use tor or foxy proxy, where do I get the actual proxy from
[22:54] <Newb101> Kyle__, why
[22:54] <Karlo_> Porn surfing?
[22:54] <jbohren> specifically, it's adding /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7
[22:54] <Newb101> Nope
[22:54] <graingert> Newb101: use the Tor Browser Bundle
[22:54] <ASHER1> someone can help please?
[22:54] <jrib> jbohren: can you show on a pastebin?  Perhaps by doing  « PYTHONPATH='WHATEVER' python -c 'import sys; print sys.path' »
[22:54] <Kyle__> Oh joy.  Another apple desktop on my network is having so many  drive errors my syslog server has balooned by a gig today.
[22:54]  * Kyle__ grumbles.
[22:55] <graingert> !patience | ASHER1
[22:55] <Karlo_> ASHER1, nobody can help until you ask your question.
[22:55] <Newb101> ok, does the proxy vary can I use a number of proxies
[22:55] <jbohren> jrib: yeah, one sec
[22:55] <ASHER1> i want to know where i can download floodbot1?
[22:55] <Newb101> on this tor bundle
[22:55] <jrib> jbohren: also, what ubuntu version?
[22:55] <Newb101> I want to make a request from a server a 100 times from a 100 different ip is this possible
[22:56] <jrib> !tor | Newb101
[22:56] <Karlo_> Laurenceb_, send them one email with a "cat" executable, then send the rest of the files split into chunks.
[22:56] <Newb101> on the tor package
[22:56] <ASHER1> !floodbot
[22:56] <jrib> ASHER1: ask LjL when he's around
[22:57] <OerHeks> ASHER1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Floodbots ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[22:57] <jbohren> jrib: http://pastebin.com/JSCHaegB
[22:57] <Newb101> thanks guys
[22:57] <Rigorm0rtis> Laurenceb_, what I'm thinking, is what if you dump the list of files into a text file, randomize that text file, then split it into other text files every N lines where N=($average_size / 10) rounded down. Then use 7za to create zips based on the files in each of those text files. Maybe tweak the number of lines in the files until you get the right end size for your ZIPs.
[22:58] <jrib> jbohren: what ubuntu version?
[22:58] <Rigorm0rtis> I've used this method to upload website files to a host that only supported <2GB ZIP uploads.
[22:58] <jbohren> 12.04
[22:58] <jrib> jbohren: what's the output of « which python »?
[22:58] <blastedt> Hi, I'm having trouble with my liveCD.  Shortly after I hit "Install Now", the video freezes.  My CD drive shows there's no reads, and the same thing happens when I try to use liveCD functionality
[22:58] <blastedt> do I need to burn a new one?
[22:58] <Karlo_> Rigorm0rtis: Bin packing problem?  I have code for that, though of course it'll only help if the largest individual file can fit into one bin.
[22:59] <jbohren> jrib: which python gives /usr/bin/python which is a symlink to python2.7
[22:59] <jrib> jbohren: it's weird that /usr/local shows up in there.  Do yo uknow what that's about?
[22:59] <Rigorm0rtis> Karlo_, that might be useful for Laurenceb_ my way was kind of dirty.
[23:00] <ASHER1> i have more question please i can download floodbot and run on ubuntu?
[23:00] <Karlo_> ASHER1, why?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> blastedt: what video chip do you use?
[23:00] <ASHER1> for protection
[23:00] <jermmal> hi
[23:01] <blastedt> gtx 460.  I think the cd may be freezing overall
[23:01] <blastedt> there's no audio at that stage of course to tell
[23:01] <Kyle__> ls .
[23:01] <ASHER1> you know where i can download karlo?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> blastedt: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[23:01] <blastedt> how would I go about doing that?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | blastedt
[23:01] <blastedt> thanks
[23:01] <jbohren> jrib: well that first thing looks like it's something from pip
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> blastedt: try a litte searching instead of immediately asking :)
[23:02] <avdorian> hello! can anyone help with installation breaking when trying to install 64 Bit Ubuntu 12.04 to a laptop? (Lenovo G780)
[23:03] <jrib> jbohren: what do you have installed to /usr/local?
[23:03] <Kyle__> avdorian: Probably not.  We're all in here because were paid to make the channel look active, not because we nkow anything about ubuntu.

[23:04] <blastedt> ActionParsnip: that goes in the boot command line?
[23:04] <jbohren> jrib: a few things
[23:04] <jrib> jbohren: what things python-related? :)
[23:05] <jbohren> so that pip egg is the only thing that looks strange
[23:05] <meomic> hi, maybe someone knows why in the sound indicator meniu->sound settings->configuration i cant see 5.1 analog audio profile? i have only 'analog stereo duplex' 'analog stereo output' digital analog output + input and digital analog output.... is there something i  can do about it?
[23:06] <blastedt> be back in a bit, hopefully that works, thanks ActionParsnip
[23:06] <jbohren> jrib: there are a few things, a newer mercurial, some web stuff, pithos, and pip
[23:07] <jbohren> jrib: though the package I'm trying to override is in /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7
[23:07] <jrib> jbohren: check for interesting .pth files I guess
[23:07] <jrib> jbohren: in /usr/{,local/}lib/python2.7/dist-packages
[23:07] <avdorian> Kyle__:Wow, that's a bummer
[23:07] <Kyle__> while [ 1 ];do ssh -o ConnectTimeout=1 -i adminkey-rsa admin@imac24 "sudo shutdown -h now";done
[23:07]  * Kyle__ sighs.
[23:08] <jbohren> jrib: ahh right on the money
[23:08] <Kyle__> I can't beleive I'm actually running that.
[23:08] <ahmad> quick question guys, some plugins in ccsm seem to be not working such as show mouse, any idea as to why?
[23:08] <jrib> jbohren: eh?
[23:08] <Kyle__> avdorian: That lenovo, that's a i5 or i7 based one, right?
[23:08] <avdorian> Kyle__: Indeed
[23:08] <jbohren> jrib: that's what it is, a .pth file from when I used easy_install at one point
[23:08] <jrib> jbohren: oh, ok
[23:09] <Kyle__> avdorian: what happens?  I've done an update from 12.04 to 12.10 on a very similar lenovo, but not a clean install.
[23:09] <avdorian> Kyle__: The error I get is "prefix not found" before the install screen, after I choose install a call stack comes up with another error, something like file not found
[23:10] <Kyle__> avdorian: You're sure you downloaded the amd64 image, and not something like ia64?
[23:10] <jbohren> jrib: ok, I've got it from here, thanks for your help!
[23:10] <jrib> jbohren: no problem
[23:11] <avdorian> Kile__:that was a bit of a weird part, when pressing download in the ubuntu website, I think they have a bug, the download redirects you to the 32 bit page even if you choose 64 bit
[23:11] <avdorian> Kyle__:that was a bit of a weird part, when pressing download in the ubuntu website, I think they have a bug, the download redirects you to the 32 bit page even if you choose 64 bit
[23:11] <avdorian> Kyle__:So I changed in 32 to 64 in the URL and than got a file called "amd64-ubuntu", so I guess it's correct
[23:11] <avdorian> Kyle__:But IMO they have an error in the website, I hope I have the right file
[23:12] <Kyle__> avdorian: THere are some good reasons for using the 32bit version... But anyway.  DId you checksum your download?
[23:13] <Divzro> Hello - I trying to setup a Ubuntu server on a Dell mini 1012 (1gb Ram, 1tb drive) - Is 12.4 my best bet? any recommendations?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> avdorian: i you use cdimage site, you'll get either :)
[23:13] <jrib> Divzro: I'd recommend latest LTS (supported for 5 years after release), which is 12.04 :)
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> avdorian: http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/
[23:14] <Divzro> Thx jrib
[23:14] <jrib> Divzro: if more recent packaging is more important than long term support, then you could go with 12.10 (supported for 18 months after release)
[23:14] <Kyle__> Divzro: 12.04 or 12.10.  Depends on if this is something that needs to be up for ages, or something to play with.  Either will be fine.
[23:14] <Divzro> Just going to use it as a NAS; was worried about memory on the dell mini.  1gb will be ok?
[23:15] <avdorian> Kyle__:thanx, I'll do the checksum now and make sure it's alright
[23:15] <jrib> Divzro: should me plenty
[23:15] <jrib> s/me/be
[23:15] <WeThePeople> is ramdisk any useful in ubuntu?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: it uses one by default ;)
[23:16] <Kyle__> Divzro: Should be. Especially if you're just using it as a NAS.  Linux has a habbit of using un-used ram for file caching, so more would help, but less wont' hurt persey.  If you get my meaning.
[23:16] <Kyle__> WeThePeople: Yes, if you need something like a ramdisk.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: I put my browser cache in a tempfs (ram disk), makes browsing a little faster
[23:17] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, nice, i was thinking of looking for a way to do games
[23:17] <Kyle__> WeThePeople: shmfs/tmpfs is a dynamic ram disk, using free ram to hold the files, but shoving them into swap if the ram gets needed for some running program.
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: in what way?
[23:18] <Karlo_> Bloody hell.  I couldn't boot from hard disk, couldn't get the system to recognize the CD-ROM, and now it won't boot from a flash drive either -- I see in the Setup screen that "Removable Devices" has only one choice, namely "Legacy Floppy Drives".  Am I just screwed?
[23:19] <Kyle__> Gotta go.  Later
[23:19] <ray76> Kyle__  yay I filed the bug = https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1071530 and thanks to you i actually had something to put.
[23:20] <blockeduser> are there realtime-kernel packages ?
[23:20] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, its odd, i used to have a alienware laptop with 1.5ghz celeron with 1 gig ram and 128mb graphics card, now im on a 3ghz machine with the same specs but its slower..lol its older though.. pent 4 processor.. anyway the game i like to play in Lucid do not work as well on this machine for some reason and i am looking for ways to speed up ubuntu so it will atleast come close to the fps i like..
[23:20] <pandazh> hi!
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: try a lighter desktop like LXDE
[23:21] <jolaren> I know I can wget entire websites and whatever but now I'm trying to learn how a specific form is built so i'd like to wget the server sided php included in index.html, is that even possible?
[23:21] <HunterB> What do yall think about the sf 49ers vs the denver broncos for the superbowl?
[23:21] <unheeding> lxde is great except it doesnt recognize my keyboard volume keys
[23:22] <unheeding> i tried following a guide on how to get it to work but it still didn't work
[23:22] <Karlo_> Now I'm in single-user mode again, with the thumb drive in /dev/sdb -- how do I mount that, what type do I need for the -t option of mount?
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: could use LXDE for the Game then use Gnome or whatever you use
[23:23] <HunterB> mount -n -o remount,rw /
[23:23] <Lil> jolaren; I think your going about learning to code all wrong.
[23:24] <Lil> jolaren; why not just download scripts, and look at their code..
[23:24] <jrib> jolaren: ##php might be a good place to start if you're interested in php
[23:26] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, do you recognize this bug with the letters the way they are
[23:26] <WeThePeople> http://imgh.us/again..doh.png
[23:27] <avdorian> Kyle__:why use the 32 bit? software support?
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: have you tried different font for the desktop?
[23:27] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, yes
[23:28] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, it does that in just about every program
[23:28] <WeThePeople> and its different letters each time it does this
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: not sure, are there bugs reported?
[23:30] <Karlo_> mount -t TYPE /dev/sdb /mnt/flash # mount thumbdrive, where TYPE=??
[23:30] <Karlo_> What do I need there?
[23:31] <wols> Karlo_: nothing. -t is not needed and /dev/sdb will not work
[23:31] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, yeah i think i found a report
[23:32] <Karlo_> Oh.  What device name do I need to use, then?
[23:32] <wols> if you actually know what filesystem it is you can use it (vfat, ntfs, etc), but it normally can mount it without. also, it's almost always /dev/sdb1 or similar. check with "sudo fdisk -l" first
[23:32] <croz> I installed LinuxMint months ago and I accidentally reformated the MBR and now grub/bootloader where I select Windows 7 or Linux is not there, it just boots me into Windows. How do I fix that?
[23:32] <wols> !mint
[23:33] <Julian> HI!! Need help badlyyy with installation error that looks like blanked my computer
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> croz: the support for Mint is separate to Ubuntus
[23:33] <Guest82068> Hi how do I permanently disable mouse acceleration? xset m 0 0 only works in my current xsession
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest82068: add it as a startup item
[23:34] <Karlo_> Ah OK, sdb1 works.  Thanks...
[23:34] <Nerp> do you guys know of any good utilities for examining memory usage other than free and vmstat?
[23:34] <Guest82068> if I create a new xsession without rebooting it doesn't carry over
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> Nerp: conky can do it
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Nerp: could try:  top    too
[23:35] <Nerp> ActionParsnip: I mean in a more granular sense, comparing the output of free/vmstat and top/htop shows some strange discrepancies.
[23:35] <avdorian> Kyle__:md5 checksum is good, anyone has any idea what could be wrong?
[23:36] <croz> isn't grub support the same though
[23:36] <Nerp> or it is also completely possible that I am reading the output incorrectly
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> croz: Mint isn't supported here in any way
[23:37] <wols> croz: go to ##linux if you want distro agnostic support
[23:37] <Guest82068> ..agnostic?
[23:37] <wols> yes, agnostic
[23:37] <Karlo_> <Bug report> The ceiling is falling down.  <Canned reply> The ceiling is not supported.
[23:38] <blastedt> Finally managed to get Ubuntu installed.  It ejected the CD into the case door and asked that I remove it, close the tray, and press enter to finish shutting down.  Nothing happened after this procedure, so I cut the power and restarted it.  It booted into Windows without asking about Ubuntu; should I have waited a while longer after mashing enter and nothing happening at alll?
[23:38] <doomlord> is it possible to install a 'regular' compiz based wm/de in parallel with ubuntu - i.e. other DE not using the tweaked ubuntu-ized plugins
[23:39] <doomlord> (unity-ized).  the itch i have is the "show all windows" feature
[23:39] <doomlord> but overall i like unity
[23:39] <blastedt> google suggests I did the right thing there
[23:39] <Guest82068> You mean like the default GNOME 3?
[23:39] <wols> blastedt: was a bootloader (grub 2) installed at any point? and if so: where?
[23:39] <blastedt> no, some people told me that a bootloader would be installed automatically by the livecd
[23:39] <blastedt> though i chose to do custom partitioning; maybe that turned it off
[23:40] <wols> yes it usually was: which is why I asked
[23:40] <wols> no that won't turn it off
[23:40] <Guest82068> just try booting from each of your drives until you find the one you put GRUB on
[23:40] <blastedt> i cut my windows partition in half and formatted the new half with the default filesystem, and chose / for the directory
[23:40] <Guest82068> When I upgraded to 12.10 it decided to move my GRUB across to a new drive
[23:40] <blastedt> thanks, will try that
[23:40] <wols> blastedt: how many harddrives do you actually have?
[23:41] <blastedt> Three physical hard drives, four partitions
[23:41] <f00dMonsta> blastedt: my system has a bug, it added a "ubuntu" boot drive to my list of bootable devices in bios, but booting from there gives me errors, so I set it back to my main HD
[23:41] <blastedt> thanks! i will poke around my BIOS and check things out
[23:41] <Julian> PLEASE HELP!!! I HAD ERROR INSTALLING UBUNTU  AND NOW COMPUTER LOADS TO A  BLACK SCREEN WITH A FOLDER IN MIDDLE OF SCREEN
[23:42] <wols> Julian: what you just did won't get you any help but many annoyed people
[23:42] <f00dMonsta> Julian: All caps just made that "sound" funny for me
[23:42] <Guest82068> install it again!
[23:42] <wols> Julian: learn to describe your errors
[23:42] <f00dMonsta> anyone using KDE here?
[23:42] <wols> !anyone
[23:43] <Julian> ok sry for caps forgot how hurts some people yes lol
[23:43] <f00dMonsta> :P
[23:43] <Guest82068> anyone know how to disable mouse acceleration in xorg.conf?
[23:43] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, how do i edit the 'LANGUAGE=' and 'ALL=' ? >>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1306133/
[23:44] <Guest82068> I generated one called xorg.conf.new but see no field to edit the mouse value
[23:44] <Nerp> how do I calculate the true amount of free memory I have?
[23:44] <Julian> anybody knows why after an erro installin ubuntu  i couldnt read beacuse rebooted automatically, i cant restar my pc
[23:44] <Karlo_> Julian, I can't parse that
[23:44] <Guest82068> That's kind of incredibly vague, Julian
[23:44] <wols> Guest82068: by googling "linux disable mouse accleration" which gives you https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration as the first link for example
[23:45] <f00dMonsta> ok here goes... KDE is not supporting multiple monitors to my satisfaction, I don't know if it's just me.. When I unplug external monitor from my laptop the panel doesn't reappear on my laptop screen, and windows that were open on the external mon would be stuck offscreen.... am i missing something?
[23:45] <wols> Nerp: there is no free memory. if there is, your ubuntu is very very broken
[23:45] <blastedt_> BOOTMGR is missing when I pick the hard drive with my OSes on it via bios... guess I'll try to reinstall grub with my livecd
[23:45] <Nerp> wols: Memory that is not used by applications.
[23:45] <blackshirt> qurban day
[23:46] <Julian> ok sorry, i was installing latest ubuntu  12.10 from live cd, when error pop out and  jus restarted the machine, after that error when i restart my pc i get a black screen with a folder called "?"
[23:46] <wols> Nerp: man free
[23:46] <f00dMonsta> Nerp: Get your total memory, then subtract it with the amount you're using :P
[23:46] <wols> !errors | Julian
[23:46] <Guest82068> wols it says set the following to 1 1 0
[23:46] <Guest82068> Those are not in the xorg.conf.new
[23:46] <wols> Guest82068: duh! why would they?
[23:46] <Julian> sorry but the pc after the installation error rebooted
[23:46] <Nerp> vmstat -s -S M | grep mem'
[23:46] <Julian> couldnt even write it down
[23:46] <blastedt_> wols: how many of those are there ?
[23:47] <wols> blastedt_: "those"?
[23:47] <Guest82068> They should say "add" not set" because there's clearly an example set there
[23:47] <blastedt_> !bothelpspeople
[23:47] <cweagans> Hi there. I'm installing Ubuntu 12.10 and I'm wondering if I can not have a swap partition and use a file somewhere instead. I know it was possible with earlier versions of Ubuntu, but the only help document that I found said that it won't work in 12.04 and forward because the way that hibernation works has changed.
[23:47] <Nerp> shows 2942 total and 2435 used which doesnt appear to be true when looking at top
[23:48] <wols> cweagans: you can, but you might not be able to use hibernation, yes
[23:48] <cweagans> ah, okay
[23:48] <cweagans> I'm already at 4 partitions and I don't want to make this setup any more complicated than it needs to be :(
[23:48] <Guest82068> I'm also curious to know why it's so difficult just to turn off maccel but heh
[23:48] <wols> cweagans: if you don't need it you can use a swap file. but why would you want to? a swap file is good if you need a temporary one. for a real swap space, you want a partition
[23:48] <ph4r7w1p3> looking for bandwidth monitoring program that doesn't keep track of LAN usage can someone help please
[23:48] <wols> cweagans: create an extended partition. much better thing to do.
[23:49] <cweagans> mmk
[23:49] <cweagans> thanks wols
[23:49] <wols> ph4r7w1p3: iptraf
[23:49] <Nerp> looking at top the system should only be using 4% of the total memory
[23:49] <ph4r7w1p3> does iptraf have gui and tray icon
[23:49] <wols> Nerp: what does "free" say?
[23:49] <wols> ph4r7w1p3: it's a ncurses based program
[23:50] <xrs1> is every one still needing to boot twice too boot or is it just my computers?
[23:50] <wols> just yours
[23:50] <ClientAlive> I need to take a screenshot. I've tried ctrl+prt sc, fn+prt sc, <windows>+prt sc, and alt+prt sc. Nothing seems to work. What do I do?
[23:50] <Troy^> what is a good mail program
[23:50] <wols> ClientAlive: use scrot :)
[23:50] <Nerp> wols: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=RX5eN2Bq
[23:51] <Karlo_> ClientAlive, for me it's just been PrtScrn with no modifier.
[23:51] <xrs1> then could i get some help with why they restart and boot a second time? one of my computers takes about 10 minutes to boot because of this
[23:52] <ClientAlive> Karlo_: I'll try that again. I'm used to a window popping up asking where to save but I know sometimes you have to paste it into draw or something. No window comes up for me so I've been trying to paste it.
[23:52] <Guest82068> How do I change the default text editor from gedit to emacs?
[23:53] <xrs1> i cant even turn it on and walk away i have to baby sit it cuz about 6 minutes in it stops at grub and waits for me to select ubuntu (the only OS)
[23:53] <ClientAlive> wols: What is scrot? Karlo_: No luck w/ just prt sc. What get's pasted is the last text I copied to the clipboard, not a screenshot.
[23:54] <wols> xrs1: if you need 6 minutes to grub, you have a hardware problem. linux isn't even loaded at that point
[23:54] <wols> ClientAlive: scrot is a program
[23:54] <Nerp> wols: any idea after seeing the free output?
[23:54] <ClientAlive> wols: well I can look at it
[23:55] <xrs1> no it boots almost to the logon screen, then reboots (the first couple of reboots i had a bood screen and could see what was going on. during the fist boot it runs fsck and restarts
[23:55] <wols> !info scrot
[23:55] <xrs1> it takes so long because it is 11 years old
[23:55] <wols> xrs1: sounds still very much like hardware to me
[23:55] <Karlo_> I'm in single-user mode now.  I can't boot from any other medium but hd, but I can remount / to make it writable, and I can mount the thumb drive that I'd been hoping to boot from.  What can I do from here?
[23:55] <wols> e.g. bad caps cause cold boot problems
[23:56] <xrs1> okay then the laptop i am talking to you on now is relitively new, never had this problem untill 12.10
[23:56] <ClientAlive> I don't understand why I can't take a screenshot with gnome.


[12:15] <sorush20> please put firefox 1.5 in the repositories  please
[12:18] <Seveas> sorush20, it is. for dapper
[12:19] <sorush20> Seveas: If I change the repositories to dapper now I'm sure things will messup since I made the sources.lits from source-o-matic..
[12:20] <sorush20> dapper is going to be release in two months right?
[12:20] <Seveas> 3
[12:20] <sorush20> Seveas: oh okay..
[12:20] <Seveas> 2.5 actually, april 20
[01:05] <sorush20> are you guys rushing to get things working ?
[01:18] <Riddell> sorush20: -> #ubuntu
[02:09] <mruiz>
[12:43] <Seveas> T minus 16 minutes
[12:43] <sivang> CC meeting soon?
[12:43] <Seveas> Anyone awake yet?
[12:43] <Seveas> sivang, yup
[12:43] <Kamion> yes
[12:44] <Kamion> FSVO awake
[12:44] <Seveas> FSVO?
[12:44] <Seveas> for some value of?
[12:44] <Kinnison> hmm, not yet
[12:44] <Kinnison> ogra: coo ta
[12:45] <Kamion> Seveas: http://www.google.com/search?q=FSVO
[12:46] <ogra> lol
[12:46] <ogra> Seveas, yes, you can be i guess
[12:46] <sivang> why , he would make a great rara girl :)
[12:48] <jsgotangco> atie, hi
[12:48] <atie> hello, everyone
[12:48] <atie> highvoltage, Jerome
[12:48] <jsgotangco> still early :)
[12:49] <atie> jsgotangco, how was the meeting in Seoul?
[12:49] <jsgotangco> atie, i didnt go to seoul
[12:49] <atie> jsgotangco, sorry to hear that.
[12:50] <jsgotangco> hopefully sabdfl comes online
[12:50] <atie> jsgotangco, I'm here for membership could you be a my fanclub? ^^
[12:50] <jsgotangco> oh you've done lots already
[12:50] <jsgotangco> you've worked with cjk
[12:51] <Seveas> we need more people on CJK
[12:51] <atie> Seveas, thanks.
[12:52] <jsgotangco> yes
[12:52] <jsgotangco> like ming said before, theres huge interest but needs more love
[12:52] <atie> I am bit relaxed, you guys knew your first time at meeting.
[12:53] <Seveas> there's no need to be nervous, we're not the spanish inquisition :)
[12:53] <jsgotangco> yeah
[12:55] <Gloubiboulga> hey Tonio_
[12:55] <Tonio_> hi all, hi Gloubiboulga
[12:55] <Seveas> I hope enough CC members will be around, it's 6am for mako and sabdfl is on tour...
[12:55] <jsgotangco> yeah but if sabdfl is still in seoul itws only 9pm there
[12:56] <Seveas> but he probably won't have time :)
[12:57] <jsgotangco> oh well at least we had lunch together when he was here
[01:00] <Kamion> meh, er, may have been a dropped ball here
[01:00] <OgMaciel> morning all
[01:00] <jsgotangco> hallo hallo
[01:00] <Kamion> the last mail I have indicates that Mark wanted to do this CC meeting at 2200 UTC yesterday
[01:00] <OgMaciel> jsgotangco, =)
[01:00] <Kamion> but we obviously never actually set that officially - and I was sick yesterday anyway
[01:01] <Kamion> sabdfl is mid-flight at the moment
[01:01] <jsgotangco> ahh
[01:01] <OgMaciel> not much going on today as per the agenda, huh?
[01:01] <jsgotangco> too bad
[01:01] <Kamion> I'll SMS mako on the off-chance
[01:01] <raphink> hi there
[01:02] <jsgotangco> we have a light agenda anyways
[01:02] <mhz> hi all
[01:02] <OgMaciel> mhz, hey
[01:02] <mhz> hi OgMaciel
[01:04] <jsgotangco> ohh
[01:05] <Kamion> SMSed mako and elmo, can't do much more unless/until both of them arrive unfortunately
[01:05] <jsgotangco> yeah
[01:05] <Kamion> if they don't appear, we'll try to organise something to get through some member candidates
[01:05] <mhz> jsgotangco: is it me or time for meetings was going to rotate
[01:05] <jsgotangco> mhz, docteam? it should rotate
[01:05] <jsgotangco> CC rotates too
[01:06] <Seveas> mhz, it is rotating for CC
[01:06] <Kamion> last meeting certainly wasn't 1200
[01:06] <mhz> oh, I missed lastone
[01:06] <OgMaciel> Seveas, sup bud? ;)
[01:06] <mhz> ;)
[01:06] <jsgotangco> yeah 1200 is strange for CC
[01:06] <jsgotangco> its usually later
[01:06] <Seveas> it's the first one at 12:00 afaik
[01:06] <mhz> 12 UTC is 09:00 in chile
[01:07] <mhz> i like 12 utc :D
[01:07] <jsgotangco> too early for most
[01:07] <Kamion> mako suggested the 1200 time, we figured if he didn't mind it was OK by the rest of us
[01:07] <jsgotangco> ok
[01:07] <jsgotangco> 1 more
[01:07] <highvoltage> hi atie
[01:07] <Seveas> 2 down, 1 to go :)
[01:07] <Seveas> welcome elmo
[01:07] <mhz> hehehe
[01:07] <Kamion> elmo: I'm not entirely convinced mako's going to show up
[01:08] <jsgotangco> i think its only 6am on this side
[01:08] <jsgotangco> or earlier
[01:08] <Kamion> elmo: the e-mail thread we had actually scheduled this meeting for 2200 last night
[01:08] <elmo> Kamion: woops
[01:08] <Kamion> but I was out of it then and wouldn't have noticed even if I had remembered
[01:08] <elmo> have we phoned him yet and/or tried mark?
[01:08] <Kamion> I've SMSed mako; mark's in-flight
[01:08] <Kamion> (the latter's why we rescheduled)
[01:10] <Kamion> I'll try phoning
[01:11] <Kamion> voicemail
[01:11] <Seveas> which TZ is boston in?
[01:11] <Kamion> -5
[01:11] <Seveas> so 7am
[01:11] <atie> yes 7am there
[01:12] <mhz> .oO(oh, european seem to wake up earlier?)
[01:12] <jsgotangco> of course
[01:13] <Kamion> so, who is here out of the new member candidates?
[01:13] <atie> me
[01:13] <Kinnison> me
[01:13] <dous> me too
[01:13] <Gloubiboulga> me
[01:13] <Kamion> Patrick Davies?
[01:13] <Riddell> jpatrick is (he's gone for 10 mins though)
[01:14] <jsgotangco> Kinnison, you? =)
[01:14] <Kinnison> jsgotangco: Pardon?
[01:14] <Seveas> Gloubiboulga, -> Gauvain?
[01:14] <Gloubiboulga> Seveas, yes
[01:14] <jsgotangco> ok
[01:14] <Keybuk> Kinnison: you're not paying attention, AND NOW YOU GO HUNGRY!
[01:14] <raphink> :)
[01:14] <Kinnison> Keybuk: sorry, was busy with launchpad, blame kamion
[01:15] <Kamion> ok, I guess we can at least go through people and then collect acks from mako/sabdfl later on
[01:15] <Seveas> sounds like a plan
[01:15] <Kamion> APPROVALS AT THIS MEETING DO NOT CONSTITUTE ACTUAL APPROVAL FOR UBUNTUMEMBERS
[01:15] <Kamion> thank you :)
[01:15] <jsgotangco> cool
[01:15] <raphink> oh!
[01:15] <Kamion> (since people have got confused in the past)
[01:15] <raphink> Kamion: how come?
[01:15] <Kamion> raphink: inquorate
[01:15] <Seveas> BUT ARE A GOOD INDICATION THAT YOU WILL BE ACCEPTED
[01:15] <Seveas> OR NOT
[01:16] <jsgotangco> but 2 votes are shoo-in?
[01:16] <raphink> I CAN'T HEAR PLEASE SPEAK LOUDER
[01:16] <Kamion> jsgotangco: 3 required
[01:16] <raphink> ok
[01:16] <jsgotangco> right
[01:16] <Seveas> ok, let's start calling names
[01:16] <raphink> hi Seveas btw, nice to see you around :)
[01:18] <Seveas> veryy well, a bit quiet today but that shouldn't hurt
[01:18] <jsgotangco> CC lite :)
[01:18] <sivang> quite ? :)
[01:18] <Kamion> I'll assume jpatrick isn't back yet and go straight to dous
[01:18] <Seveas> given that jpatrick is away, dous: you're up. Please give us your 3-liner
[01:18] <mhz> jsgotangco: LOL
[01:18] <dous> I'm a 21 year-old system administrator from the Philippines. I've been using GNU/Linux since around 2002 and tried several distributions before settling on Debian and Ubuntu last year. I first tried Ubuntu during the Warty release.
[01:19] <dous> It was only last year that I learned about #ubuntu-ph and started to help out with doing some translation work and advocacy/support. Before that, I was already interested in doing packaging/maintenance for Java packages in Debian.
[01:19] <dous> My current work and plans include Tagalog translation and helping out on Java packages and motujava work. Then, once things get settled at my new work, I'll start contributing more on server-related matters.
[01:19] <dous> :)
[01:19] <Seveas> More people from the philippines - BusinessTour effect or is jsgotangco spamming heavily?
[01:19] <jsgotangco> lol
[01:19] <jsgotangco> nah he's been with us from the start
[01:19] <Kamion> dous: your translation activity seems to have fallen off this year; are you still interested in keeping that up?
[01:19] <jsgotangco> doing some translations lately
[01:20] <dous> Kamion, yes. It's just that I moved to a new job this january
[01:20] <dous> Kamion, I don't have broadband at home so I usually do foss work during free time at work
[01:20] <Kamion> ok, fair enough
[01:20] <Kamion> you mention you've been helping with support tickets
[01:20] <dous> jsgotangco, :)
[01:21] <Kamion> the support system's fairly new and has never actually been announced :) what's your impression of the situation there?
[01:22] <dous> well, when I have free time I just look at the list of requests and try to comment on anything that I have knowledge about
[01:22] <Seveas> so just like one would do on a mailing list
[01:22] <Kamion> my question is really whether the list of requests is getting out of control or not
[01:22] <dous> some submitters seems to lose track of their requests though
[01:23] <jsgotangco> but they're subcribed to it from the start
[01:23] <Kamion> what do the other Philippines folks think of dous' advocacy activity?
[01:23] <dous> they don't come back to comment on answers to their requests sometimes
[01:23] <dous> so I can't confirm if my answers have solved their problem
[01:23] <Kamion> that much is inevitable, I think
[01:23] <Seveas> dous, that's the same in any bugtracker, people lose interest
[01:24] <jsgotangco> pretty good although i would love more Rosetta love
[01:24] <raphink> :)
[01:24] <jsgotangco> it doesn't take that much to translate 10 lines  a day :)
[01:24] <Seveas> "10 lines a day keeps the evil jsgotangco away"
[01:24] <raphink> lol
[01:24] <jsgotangco> but its more into our local setup
[01:24] <irvin> ack for dous
[01:24] <Seveas> that should be the translator motto ;)
[01:25] <dous> Kamion, more volunteers would be much appreciated. it's not out of control yet, imho.. :)
[01:25] <Kamion> ok, well I'm happy to see somebody doing Java bug gardening too
[01:25] <Kamion> elmo?
[01:25] <Seveas> Launchpad activity so far is limited to nov-23 to dec-23
[01:25] <Seveas> which is only one month
[01:25] <irvin> jsgotangco will setting be tighter control on translations
[01:25] <Kamion> Seveas: you misunderstand the karma listing
[01:25] <Kamion> Seveas: it doesn't go back forever
[01:25] <Seveas> right
[01:25] <elmo> ack
[01:26] <dous> Seveas, yeah.. but it's harder to make improvements with little feedback :(
[01:26] <jpatrick> Kamion: I'm back sorrt
[01:26] <Kamion> for instance according to https://launchpad.net/people/kamion/+karma I've only been active since 2006-01-27 :-P
[01:26] <Seveas> Kamion, that sounds pretty accurate :p
[01:26] <dous> hehe
[01:26] <Seveas> anyway, both present CC members ack'ed so it's up to mako/mark now
[01:27] <jsgotangco> irc hah
[01:27] <Seveas> thanks for coming dous, we'll let you know what the final 'judgement' is :)
[01:27] <dous> Seveas, thanks a lot! :)
[01:27] <mhz> (and talks)
[01:27] <raphink> Kamion: you could be more active then :p hehe
[01:27] <Seveas> jpatrick, you're up for the 3-liner
[01:27] <Kamion> wait
[01:28] <dous> mhz, that would be cool.. 8-)
[01:28] <Kamion> Kinnison has to leave at 1300; I'd like to bring him forward
[01:28] <Seveas> ok
[01:28] <ogra> ++
[01:28] <Kamion> Kinnison: ?
[01:28] <Kinnison> Hi, I am Daniel Silverstone, 25 yrs old, UK based, and I have been working on Launchpad for the past 14 months (in particular I am primarily responsible for the Soyuz backend) and have in my spare time done various things for Ubuntu, centred primarily around Toshiba laptop support. I have also been a Debian developer for about five years now.
[01:28] <Kinnison> In particular I have written the new toshiba_acpi kernel module support for punting the hotkeys into the ACPI subsystem, support for this in fnfxd and acpi-support. I was also the Debian maintainer of lua50 and lua40 for quite a while and a Debian ftpmaster for some time.
[01:28] <Kinnison> I intend to work on general bug fixing as part of the ubuntu core development team during the dapper timeframe and then more generally on laptop support for toshibas and various general laptop related work.
[01:28] <jsgotangco> go toshiba
[01:28] <ogra> cheer cheer cheer !
[01:29] <Kamion> Kinnison: do you expect you'll be getting some of the laptop stuff done pre-dapper?
[01:29] <Kinnison> Kamion: yes, I have been fixing bugs in gnome-power-manager since I first installed dapper last night :-)
[01:29] <Kamion> heh
[01:29] <Kamion> so does g-p-m
[01:29] <jsgotangco> "my"
[01:30] <ogra> Kamion, his fix will be in todays g-p-m upload :)
[01:30] <Mithrandir> I think we should approve Kinnison since he's so cuddly. :-)
[01:30] <ogra> Mithrandir++
[01:30] <jsgotangco> :)
[01:30] <raphink> :)
[01:30] <Tonio_> ;)
[01:30] <Kamion> full disclosure, Kinnison's a Canonical employee, we all know him, and basically he's been doing lots of useful stuff forever. any objections?
[01:30] <Kamion> (kthxbye)
[01:30] <Seveas> none at all
[01:31] <ogra> :)
[01:31] <raphink> it's just quite logical forhim to be ine
[01:31] <raphink> in
[01:31] <irvin> :)
[01:31] <Kamion> I suppose it remains to be seen whether Soyuz is a positive contribution to Ubuntu ;-)
[01:31] <sivang> go Kinnison  !
[01:31] <raphink> irvin: yeah
[01:31] <Tonio_> raphink++
[01:31] <ogra> Kamion, *giggle*
[01:31] <Seveas> Kamion, bwahaha :)
[01:31] <jsgotangco> +1 for the cuddliness?
[01:31] <Kamion> irvin: he's moving to the Canonical distro team for a while, it's part of the job
[01:32] <sivang> +2 for cuddliness
[01:32] <Kamion> elmo: ?
[01:32] <ogra> jsgotangco, nah, more than +10 :)
[01:32] <jsgotangco> not to mention mao master
[01:32] <sivang> indeed
[01:32] <elmo> ack
[01:33] <Seveas> cool beans
[01:33] <Kamion> jpatrick: you're up
[01:33] <Kinnison> thanks guys
[01:33] <ogra> congrats
[01:33] <Kinnison> urgh
[01:33] <sivang> Kinnison: welcome aboard :-)
[01:33] <jsgotangco> oh well
[01:33] <Seveas> Kinnison, have fun :)
[01:33] <Seveas> sivang, not yet :)
[01:33] <Kinnison> sivang: well, pending mako/sabdfl
[01:33] <Kamion> sivang: point of order, not without a third vote
[01:33] <raphink> welcome to the team Kinnison
[01:33] <Kamion> (END of point of order.)
[01:33] <raphink> oh yes right
[01:33] <raphink> sorry ;)
[01:33] <sivang> Kamion: heh, noted :)
[01:33] <Seveas> jpatrick, ?
[01:33] <jpatrick> I am Jonathan Patrick Davies. Currently living in Girona, Catalonia, Spain - although I am originally from London (UK). Been using Linux since around Kubuntu's first release. And I'm a member of the Kubuntu Team
[01:33] <raphink> almost welcome to the team Kinnison
[01:34] <mhz> Kinnison: welcome!!!!
[01:34] <jpatrick> I make KDE packages and help out on the forums and am am admin of kubuntu-es.org
[01:34] <ogra> jpatrick, is quite busy in -motu with this strange desktop stuff starting with the K :)
[01:34] <raphink> jpatrick packages quite a lot, we see good packages from him on REVU
[01:35] <jpatrick> I also do some translations at Rosetta
[01:35] <raphink> he's quite an active kubuntu dev for sure :)
[01:35] <Seveas> jpatrick, you say you repackaged yakuake? Why - doesn't it create an unneccessary diff with Debian?
[01:35] <ogra> i bet Riddell might also want to speak up for him
[01:35] <Tonio_> yep, very active on REVU
[01:35] <jpatrick> Seveas: Mez took over take
[01:35] <Riddell> jpatrick helps out in numberous ways, I fully support his membership
[01:35] <jpatrick> that*
[01:35] <raphink> :)
[01:35] <Seveas> woah - translator karma of doom
[01:35] <Riddell> Seveas: it was packaged in kubuntu long before debian did it
[01:35] <zakame> hi all
[01:36] <Kamion> urgh, looks like repackaging to add a patch system
[01:36] <Kamion> fair enough in this specific case from the sound of it, but in general do try to avoid that
[01:36] <jsgotangco> 2318 karma nice
[01:36] <mhz> zakame: hi.. so far, 1 candidate 'under consideration', 1 new memeber, evaluating jpatrick
[01:37] <zakame> heya mhz :) thanks for updating
[01:37] <Kamion> that's a hell of a lot of karma for en_GB - I didn't think that many translations that were actually distinct from the original could be fitted in ;)
[01:37] <elmo> Kamion: if we did it first, I think it's hard for people to complain about our use of patch systems
[01:37] <Kamion> elmo: as I say, fair enough in this specific case
[01:37] <jpatrick> Kamion: I still have to start ca and es but I'm waiting for the K apps
[01:38] <elmo> jpatrick: K apps?
[01:38] <jpatrick> KDE
[01:38] <elmo> sure, but what are you waiting for?
[01:38] <Mez> Sevea: the diff with debian is becuse jpatrcik created yakuake package first - debian dev decided to do it differently
[01:38] <Riddell> KDE still isn't in rosetta (will be when dapper gets imported)
[01:39] <elmo> ah, I see
[01:39] <elmo> Riddell: how come?
[01:39] <elmo> Riddell: and when is dapper due to be imported?
[01:39] <Riddell> elmo: the .pot files were not generated in the breezy packages, we had to sort out that gettext-kde issue.  dapper will be imported at string freeze I think
[01:39] <ogra> for the time being you could translate kino to feel more at home even if its a gtk app :)
[01:40] <elmo> oh, right, gettext-kde, *gag*
[01:40] <raphink> hehe
[01:40] <Seveas> well, jpatrick gets a ++ from me, contributions look s&s
[01:40] <Riddell> (you'll be pleased to know that KDE 4 has now been changed to current GNU gettext)
[01:40] <Kamion> Riddell: (hooray)
[01:40] <raphink> ++ for jpatrick :)
[01:41] <hunger> yeah, jpatrick did lots of debs I am using. If I may vote I'll ++ for jpatrick.
[01:41] <raphink> Riddell: which means we won't need kde pot dirty patches in kde 4 :)
[01:41] <Kamion> as usual, voting is restricted to CC members
[01:41] <jsgotangco> awesome karma too
[01:41] <ogra> but you can cheer ;)
[01:41] <Seveas> Kamion, it was a cheer, not a vote
[01:41] <Kamion> anyway, I'm happy with jpatrick's contributions so far
[01:42] <elmo> how do I see the specific translations  a person's done in launchpad, or can I stil lnot?
[01:42] <elmo> yeah, ack from me too
[01:42] <Kamion> (Kubuntu-wise anyway, I have no idea about the en_GB stuff yet)
[01:42] <jpatrick> Mez: I missed the early meetings :(
[01:42] <jpatrick> elmo: https://launchpad.net/people/jpatrick/+translations ?
[01:42] <Mez> jpatricks done quire a bit en_GB stuff I believe (lol - though I havent for a while - and i run that team!)
[01:43] <Seveas> jpatrick, that does not list the individual translations
[01:43] <Seveas> anyway, 2 acks from the CC is all we'll get for now
[01:43] <jpatrick> ah right
[01:43] <Seveas> jpatrick, thanks for coming!
[01:43] <jpatrick> no problem :)
[01:44] <Seveas> Gloubiboulga is next
[01:44] <Gloubiboulga> I'm Gauvain Pocentek, a 26 years old french music student. I'm an (x)ubuntu user since the warty release. I've spent a lot of time on irc and forums helping users during the last months, trying to make their Ubuntu life easier. I have also worked on more technical stuff, like packaging, bugs reports/patches and a few merges/syncs. I have now a little experience in packaging, and try to help new packagers, with some comments on REVU (which make
[01:44] <Gloubiboulga> s me improve my packaging skill too).
[01:44] <Gloubiboulga> For the future, I really want to keep helping user, because the quality of the Ubuntu community is certainly a huge advantage for Ubuntu (and of course its technical quality, but everyone here is concerned by this). I also plan to keep helping with bugs stuff, merges for dapper+1, packaging...
[01:44] <Gloubiboulga> I also really think about french translations of some wiki.u.c pages about how to help Ubuntu, because we don't have a lot of doc about this on French web pages.
[01:44] <raphink> Gloubiboulga is very active on REVU and in the MOTU world in general, as well as in #ubuntu-fr. He has begun to send me reviews for REVU lately, and I've been happy to sponsor since they are of very good quality.
[01:45] <raphink> I would be veyr happy with his membership :)
[01:45] <jsgotangco> music interesting..i've seen a music project in the forums too
[01:46] <Tonio_> raphink++, nothing more to say to me ;)
[01:46] <Kamion> nice to see lilypond is still alive; what's the state of development there?
[01:46] <raphink> Gloubiboulga is an emacs music hacker ;)
[01:46] <Gloubiboulga> version 2.7.32 is out, with a lot of improvments :)
[01:47] <Gloubiboulga> I'm currently working of the docs' translation
[01:47] <Kamion> (from the point of view of somebody who last looked at it in about 2002)
[01:47] <mhz> .oO(ig Gloubiboulga is a mac user then that's an incredible contribution already :D )
[01:47] <Gloubiboulga> Kamion, 2002 is far far away :)
[01:47] <Seveas> any other MOTU to vouch for packaging work?
[01:47] <raphink> Kamion: lilypong has changed a lot since. It now integrates in LaTeX fully iirc
[01:47] <mhz> .oO(ig Gloubiboulga is an  emac user then that's an incredible contribution already :D )
[01:47] <zakame> raphink: emacs!
[01:47] <Gloubiboulga> mhz, :)
[01:48] <raphink> zakame: pico!
[01:48] <zakame> Gloubiboulga: anything with emacs gets my nod ;)
[01:48] <jsgotangco> bah
[01:48] <zakame> Seveas: I've seen Gloubiboulga do good work, I'd love to have him aboard :)
[01:49] <Seveas> hmm, siretart, poke
[01:49] <Seveas> could you make something in REVU so it is easy to see someones contribution there?
[01:50] <raphink> Seveas: you can read the motu-reviewers ML to see contributions
[01:50] <raphink> ;)
[01:50] <elmo> ack from me
[01:50] <elmo> (brb)
[01:50] <Seveas> raphink, during CC meetings, when we want to check such things, it is nice to have an overview
[01:50] <raphink> grep for gauvain in the ML you'll see ;)
[01:50] <Seveas> just like launchpad/wiki
[01:50] <raphink> sure Seveas
[01:51] <zakame> raphink++
[01:51] <Seveas> Gloubiboulga's contribution so far looks well, I give him a \o/ (that's a cheer)
[01:51] <Kamion> Gauvain has several mentions on dapper-changes so far, which makes me happy
[01:51] <raphink> oh nice cheer :)
[01:51] <Kamion> keep it up
[01:51] <Kamion> ack from me
[01:51] <raphink> \o_   \o/  _o/
[01:52] <Gloubiboulga> thanks :)
[01:52] <jsgotangco> nice one
[01:52] <zakame> Gloubiboulga: rock on :D
[01:52] <Seveas> ok, cool, Kamion happy, elmo acked, so we're down to the next and last one already. Gloubiboulga thanks for coming and keep up the good work
[01:52] <Seveas> atie, you're up :)
[01:52] <atie> My name is Chris Ha. I live in Houston, work for a company as developer.
[01:52] <atie> My Ubuntu work started with making my comments and researches to the BetterCJKSupport wiki since November last year and as Day 1 Dapper user, I made number of bug reportings mostly beta user and CJK user concerns.
[01:52] <atie> With that I was thinkg it better to be some sort of team so discussed with Korean Ubuntu users and established Ubuntu Korean LoCoTeam. I am acting as contact for KoreanTeam, our team members are about 25 people. Also, there is Ubuntu CJK Testers team including 4 CJK LoCoTeam contacts about a month now.
[01:52] <atie> My main concern at this point is about translations for Dapper, by myself I translated some Dapper packages and products, and coordinating with Ubuntu and GNOME translators in Korea to prepare upcoming translations. Meanwhile myself and KoreanTeam are doing some translations and documentations to the Devel wiki at ubuntu.or.kr .
[01:52] <atie> I may put too many lines here, because I'd like to use Ubuntu/Kubuntu dev version, I'll continue to use dev version as my desktop OS doing same things above. I believe that is helping Ubuntu Korean users and developement of Ubuntu.
[01:53] <Kamion> smurf: have you been working with atie on the locoteam stuff already?
[01:53] <Seveas> atie, CJK needs lots of love, what are your plans for it?
[01:54] <ogra> atie, we're about to add scim to main, any thoughts or hints from an experiencend user about that ?
[01:54] <jsgotangco> i've been to the korean team channel in hanirc.org since i came from seoul and they have a very very active community
[01:54] <atie> Seveas, I can put what Korean users having trouble with
[01:54] <atie> orga, I have votes from Korean Users
[01:55] <atie> orga, and I did ask IM developer in Korea.
[01:56] <jsgotangco> atie, DAUM?
[01:56] <ogra> might you be able to help with the scim stuff (even through bugreports or feedback would be fine) ?
[01:56] <atie> orga, yes I can.
[01:56] <ogra> cool :)
[01:56] <atie> actually now I am testing skim.
[01:57] <Kamion> we need a strong group of maintainers for scim etc.; it's not something that the core development team have experience with
[01:57] <ogra> we're really lacking in this area ...
[01:57] <Seveas> re
[01:57] <jsgotangco> minghua can only do too much
[01:57] <atie> I am not a linux developer, but I think I can find my way to help scim/skim and other CJK stuff
[01:58] <elmo> jsgotangco: (s/too/so/)
[01:58] <ogra> you dont need to be a developer to give valuable feedback ... and thats most we need ... :)
[01:59] <atie> orga, I think so.
[01:59] <Seveas> elmo, perhaps not, from what I heard he does an qwful lot ;)
[01:59] <Seveas> s/q/a/
[01:59] <ogra> telling us we do the right thing and pointing out the drawbacks is the most important stuff here
[01:59] <ogra> getting a good QA in place for input methods ...
[01:59] <atie> IM is start point for CJK users
[02:00] <atie> there are more stuff to improve like as ID3 tag...
[02:00] <Kamion> somebody to collate problem reports from CJK users would be good too, once we do get scim integrated
[02:00] <atie> I am monitoring bugs related to CJK.
[02:00] <Kamion> since most of us can only go "uh?" when confronted with a problem report about a language we don't speak and a script we can't type :)
[02:00] <Kamion> especially if the problem report is of the form "but it works fine with uim" or whatever
[02:01] <atie> and assign ubuntu-cjk-testers for them.
[02:01] <atie> means I am testing myself and get feedback from our team and users
[02:01] <Seveas> How big is the u-cjk-t team?
[02:01] <ogra> minghua is already doing a great job with the packages even if he might need help, thats not the most critical part ...
[02:01] <atie> Seveas, 9 including 4 loco contacts
[02:02] <atie> so fair enough I think, since our team members are 25.
[02:03] <ogra> anyway, a big cheer from me for atie ...
[02:03] <jsgotangco> \o_  \o/  atie  \o/  _o/
[02:03] <atie> orga, thanks
[02:03] <Seveas> atie, it's ogra, not orga :)
[02:03] <ogra> :)
[02:03] <atie> sorry
[02:03] <jsgotangco> heheh
[02:03] <mhz> the now institutionalized \o\  \o/ /o/
[02:04] <jsgotangco> good thing a is far from y
[02:04] <ogra> Seveas, as long as i'm around thats ok :)
[02:04] <Seveas> jsgotangco, ;)
[02:04] <Mez> lol @ jsgotangco
[02:04] <ogra> Seveas, (and also makes me feel less chaotic ;) )
[02:04] <Kamion> I'm ok with atie for membership, from the sound of things
[02:04] <Kamion> elmo: ?
[02:05] <elmo> yeah, ack from me
[02:05] <elmo> (sorry was just reading some of the bugs)
[02:05] <Kamion> glad to see more people with a clue about CJK
[02:05] <ogra> ++
[02:05] <Seveas> ClueJK :)
[02:05] <Kamion> right, so in lieu of actually being quorate I think we're done
[02:05] <Kamion> any other business?
[02:05] <Seveas> anyway, atie was tha last one for now, thanks for coming!
[02:05] <atie> I hope more on Dapper+1
[02:05] <jsgotangco> yeah should be better
[02:05] <atie> thanks everyone.
[02:05] <Seveas> Kamion, time of next meeting?
[02:06] <ogra> atie, congrats :)
[02:06] <elmo> Seveas: let's put that off till we can talk to mako and find out mark's schedule
[02:06] <atie> ogra, thx
[02:06] <Seveas> elmo++
[02:06] <elmo> Kamion: using the cvd-calendar program?
[02:06] <mhz> atie: i'm very happy for you
[02:06] <Kamion> sabdfl's still on tour in two weeks' time, although at the end of the tour
[02:06] <Kamion> elmo: https://wiki.canonical.com/AsiaBusinessTour2006
[02:07] <atie> mhz, me too. thanks to you.
[02:07] <elmo> Kamion: I recommend the cvd upgrade ;)
[02:07] <zakame> congrats atie
[02:07] <Kamion> so yeah, it might be better to use cvd-calendar and switch to a different day that week
[02:07] <Seveas> cvd?
[02:07] <jsgotangco> claire davis
[02:08] <Kamion> Seveas: mark's secretary, among many other functions
[02:08] <Seveas> ah
[02:08] <mhz> lol
[02:08] <ogra> Seveas, the walking calendar
[02:08] <atie> can I ask one question? I'd be welcomed to CC meeting at any time.
[02:08] <mhz> yup
[02:08] <ogra> atie, sure
[02:08] <jsgotangco> of course
[02:08] <Kamion> atie: sure, but general questions are usually more appropriate elsewhere
[02:08] <Seveas> everyone is welcome, Ubuntu member or not
[02:08] <raphink> :)
[02:08] <atie> thanks guy.
[02:08] <mhz> atie: and you can always bring new ideas of cheering \o/
[02:08] <mhz> :D
[02:08] <Kamion> ok, sounds like we're done
[02:09] <Kamion> meeting adjourned
[02:09] <Seveas> thanks all, see you in 2 weeks :)
[02:09] <jsgotangco> atie, i think ubuntu-kr should move to freenode =)
[02:09] <mhz> Thank you guys!
[02:09] <Seveas> Kamion, I'll write the summary of this later today. I'll be less summarizing so mark/mako can draw their conclusions/votes from it.
[02:09] <jsgotangco> (if possible)
[02:09] <atie> jsgotangco, sometime soon I'll bring ubuntu-ko to ubuntu team
[02:10] <atie> we need more contrubutions.
[02:10] <atie> as volunteers
[02:10] <zakame> atie: I think what jsgotangco meant was the IRC channel
[02:11] <jsgotangco> still good :)
[02:11] <atie> zakame, I know. But at this point few people can be on.
[02:11] <jsgotangco> yeah
[02:11] <jsgotangco> hanirc is pretty big too
[02:11] <atie> jsgotangco, but in my plan.
[02:11] <jsgotangco> cool
[02:11] <jsgotangco> how about chabrothers?
[02:12] <atie> he is my age, I'd prefer some young mans ahead of us. ^^
[02:12] <jsgotangco> ahh
[02:13] <jsgotangco> atie, cheers then, i'm going to have some late nite dinner first
[02:13] <atie> we're establishing so we'll see.
[02:13] <atie> jsgotangco, bye
[02:13] <atie> bye everyone.
[03:51] <Simira> ogra: ping?
[04:39] <Simira> u
[04:40] <Simira> I actually sat by the computer, on irc, and managed to miss the meeting!


[03:26] <dmfrey> my audio on my FE started getting choppy tonight. this system hasn't changed in years
[07:34] <qwebirc14960> hello anyone online fimilar with the error 2048 when trying to watch live tv on slaves?
[09:15] <qwebirc14960> So anyone run into the 2048 on live tv with there slave tvs?
[16:04] <dmfrey> video on my aging nvidia ion box started playing choppy last night. aside from regular updates, this box has not changed.
[16:05] <dmfrey> i did notice it was using an older version of the legacy nvidia driver
[16:05] <dmfrey> i updated it to the be the most current, and the playback profile is set to vdpau normal, but the problem persists
[16:05] <dmfrey> anything else to look at
[16:06] <dmfrey> box doesn't appear to be being taxed during video playback
[16:06] <dmfrey> maybe 8-10% cpu