[08:44] <caonex> romulo you use a built kernel or the one that comes with it?
[08:44] <unforcer> ubuntu is slow..
[08:44] <romulo> mike, probably you didnt followed the readme on them :D
[08:44] <caonex> romulo: binary one?
[08:44] <nickgarvey> sleep time
[08:44] <romulo> caonex, the one
[08:44] <romulo> caonex, i was using a built one
[08:44] <romulo> =p
[08:44] <mike> haha, i've follwed the readme in and out about a dozen times:)
[08:45] <romulo> mike, so you are unlucky :D
[08:45] <mike> haha, i'll take that as the answer!
[08:45] <OrTigaS> i tried visudo and add "user ALL=(ALL) ALL" but still the same wont accept sudo -s passwd
[08:45] <mike> i've got an ati 9100 igp
[08:45] <romulo> mike, boot X, install the driver on X, get off X, on console run ./ati-something --buildpkg Ubuntu/yourversion and then install the *.debs generated by buildpkg
[08:45] <mike> and can't get it
[08:45] <romulo> mike, is it supported by proprietary drivers?
[08:46] <mike> yah
[08:46] <romulo> mike, maybe it is supported by radeon
[08:46] <romulo> let me see
[08:46] <lgc> nalioth: good idea. So I'll proceed with certain confidence. Thanks...
[08:46] <ahmeni> Warbo: ooh, apparently debootstrap can even pull down ubuntu.
[08:46] <romulo> oh cool
[08:46] <romulo> it is supported
[08:46] <romulo> lucky guy :D
[08:46] <mike> i just can't get it installed
[08:47] <romulo> mike, whats the errors/output?
[08:47] <mike> i don't ever get errors
[08:47] <romulo> caonex, tomorrow i will make ati work on dapper.
[08:47] <romulo> caonex, so if you stick here, i can find a solution :D
[08:47] <OrTigaS> is it correct what i add in visudo?
[08:47] <mike> it's just mesa always shows up when i do fglrxinfo
[08:47] <caonex> romulo: you will get it.....but might not owrk for me
[08:47] <romulo> mike, ok, modprob'ed fglrx?
[08:47] <OrTigaS> or something missing on the command
[08:47] <mike> ??
[08:48] <romulo> caonex, if it doesnt you setup a ssh and i do it for you :D
[08:48] <caonex> romulo: the stuff in the bios and my ati is the problem
[08:48] <romulo> mike, installed the *.run on X?
[08:48] <lari> is ssh setup automatically with breezy ?
[08:48] <romulo> mike, what steps did you take?
[08:48] <caonex> romulo: if you get it to work I can do it.....I will try to do it now....I will open a shell if you can and I can't
[08:48] <mike> installed ati proprietary drivers
[08:48] <romulo> caonex, oki :D
[08:48] <caonex> romulo: I am trying to see where to download it from but can't find 5.15
[08:48] <romulo> mike, the question is.....how
[08:48] <caonex> or whatever
[08:48] <romulo> caonex, 5.15?
[08:49] <romulo> whats that?
[08:49] <romulo> dapper is 6.06
[08:49] <romulo> =P
[08:49] <mike> i created the ubuntu package from the ati installer.run
[08:49] <lari> approximately what date does Dapper go final ?
[08:49] <caonex> romulo: I think I got it....how stable is it?
[08:49] <romulo> mike, ok, so now you need the kernel one
[08:49] <romulo> mike, on X, do sudo ./ati-something
[08:49] <romulo> caonex, dunno, running amd64 debian yet
[08:49] <romulo> lari, 1st June 2006
[08:49] <ahmeni> Oh god I'm an idiot.
[08:49] <lari> ok thank you
[08:50] <romulo> yw
[08:50] <patrick52222> hey
[08:50] <mike> gah, no, so scared to try it
[08:50] <romulo> mike, why? =P
[08:50] <ahmeni> I'm thinking "argh, i don't have a blank CD to burn ubuntu on..", then I realize I've still got half the ubuntu cd's i ordered to give out at my LUG
[08:50] <mike> right now, i have 3d acceleration with the ati driver that comes with the install
[08:50] <caonex> romulo: is not in a point in which could harm my hardware, you think?
[08:50] <prgrmr> i was making a mistake and chnge the /etc/resolv.conf mode into 755 =\
[08:50] <romulo> caonex, it is fine for use i think
[08:51] <romulo> prgrmr, so undo it. sudo chmod 644 /etc/resolv.conf
[08:51] <caonex> romulo: that's cool...thanks....
[08:51] <caonex> romulo: on my way downloading flight 6
[08:51] <mike> haha, romulo, if you could walk me through step by step and guarantee that this time it work, i'd do it
[08:51] <cyphase> caonex, wait
[08:51] <romulo> i was thinking...if someone gets to your account(like sshing) and do sudo rm -rf /* , it will work?
[08:51] <cyphase> caonex, the beta s coming out tomorrow
[08:51] <romulo> mike, i cant guarantee....neither ATI cant
[08:52] <mike> lol
[08:52] <LTR2000> i'm switching back to Windows tomorrow, had to many problems with ubuntu over the past few weeks.
[08:52] <cyphase> maybe even in a few hours. i'm not sure
[08:52] <romulo> cyphase, dapper?
[08:52] <mike> i know
[08:52] <cyphase> romulo, yea
[08:52] <romulo> wow cool
[08:52] <romulo> so i wasted the server bandwith today twice :D
[08:52] <cyphase> lol
[08:52] <romulo> downloaded two isos of dapper
[08:52] <caonex> cyphase: why not just apt-get upgrade?
[08:52] <lari> is that legal ?
[08:52] <romulo> mike, still wanna try?
[08:52] <romulo> lari, what?
[08:52] <cyphase> by the time you download, burn, install, and start to get comfortable, the beta will be out
[08:52] <mike> ....yes.
[08:52] <lari> j/k :)
[08:52] <mike> lol
[08:52] <CNAP> what happens when you install a kernel designed for SMP support on a single proc machine?
[08:53] <caonex> cyphase: at what time tomorrow?
[08:53] <romulo> mike, ok, open up shell and do sudo ./ati-something.run
[08:53] <mike> i need to download it again first
[08:53] <lari> hmm
[08:53] <cyphase> caonex, i'm not sur
[08:53] <mike> hold ons
[08:53] <cyphase> sure*
[08:53] <prgrmr> romulo, i get error, chmod: changing permissions of 'etc/resolv.conf': Operation not permitted
[08:53] <lari> well if there are isos for dapper what am doing idle here ???
[08:53] <cyphase> maybe a few hours, maybe longer
[08:53] <caonex> cyphase: thanks for being so nice and letting us know
[08:53] <crimsun> CNAP: it just runs slightly slower
[08:53] <cyphase> caonex, my pleasure :)
[08:53] <romulo> prgrmr, sudo chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf && sudo chmod 644 /etc/resolv.conf
[08:53] <caonex> cyphase: you developer?
[08:53] <mike> i just want to download the ati.blahblah.run right?
[08:54] <romulo> cyphase, yeah, really thanks
[08:54] <romulo> but i will install the iso i got anyway =p
[08:54] <romulo> im crazy to see it
[08:54] <romulo> =P
[08:54] <romulo> like a crazy dog
[08:54] <cyphase> caonex, no, but i'm working on something that might go into dapper+1 or +2
[08:54] <romulo> ops, wait, maybe it comes with 2.6.16
[08:54] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: I suppose I should reboot now, shouldn't I?
[08:54] <romulo> =P
[08:54] <cyphase> romulo, your welcome
[08:54] <romulo> cyphase, whats it?
[08:54] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: nope
[08:54] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: you almost never have to reboot a linux system
[08:55] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: How about that! So the changes are in effect? Let me see then...
[08:55] <cyphase> romulo, it's a RSS/Atom/Feed framework
[08:55] <prgrmr> romulo, 10x again :)
[08:55] <romulo> cyphase, gtk?
[08:55] <cyphase> with some extra features
[08:55] <romulo> prgrmr, you welcome again :)
[08:55] <cyphase> romulo, it's probably going to be a daemon
[08:56] <romulo> cyphase, wich language?
[08:56] <lari> actually at this point in time why mess with Dapper since i'm not proficient enough to debug it.  and its a long way until it goes final.
[08:56] <cyphase> romulo, python, at least for now
[08:56] <romulo> cyphase, hmm cool
[08:56] <cyphase> i don't have much code right now
[08:56] <romulo> even if i dont like/dont know python
[08:56] <cyphase> mostly concept and design
[08:56] <romulo> cyphase, hmm
[08:56] <romulo> if you need help and going for a switch to C/c++, let me know
[08:56] <romulo> even mono is good
[08:56] <romulo> i mean, ok for help
[08:56] <cyphase> lol
[08:56] <cyphase> ok
[08:56] <romulo> not a good scripter
[08:57] <OrTigaS> i need help :)
[08:57] <romulo> except for php
[08:57] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: doesn't work and doesn't even let me log out of the graphical session!
[08:57] <OrTigaS> i tried visudo and add "user ALL=(ALL) ALL" but still the same wont accept sudo -s passwd
[08:57] <OrTigaS> or something missing on the command
[08:57] <romulo> lgc, ctrl+alt+breakspace will kill/restart your X session
[08:57] <mike> romulo, do i need to uninstall anything before i do this?
[08:57] <CNAP> how can you check your kernel version? i don't think uname -a is accurate
[08:57] <romulo> mike, not that i know
[08:57] <reter> i have a file that wont dpkg -i when i do the command http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12591
[08:57] <romulo> CNAP, uname -r
[08:57] <reter> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12591
[08:57] <romulo> reter, checking
[08:57] <lgc> romulo: thanks. Thing is it should let me out politely...
[08:57] <romulo> i love my epiphany
[08:57] <romulo> =)
[08:58] <romulo> lgc, yeah but since i dont know what you doing, cant say exactly :D
[08:58] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: go to your terminal and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" (you will lose this irc session) or ctrl-alt-bkspace (you will lose this irc session)
[08:58] <CNAP> if i reboot, will it update my kernel version? because for some reason, i don't think that's entirely accurate
[08:58] <romulo> CNAP, you updated it?
[08:58] <Toma-> reter: whats the size of this file you have?
[08:58] <romulo> CNAP, like, you isntalled a new one?
[08:59] <reter> i dont kniow
[08:59] <romulo> reter, du -H sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[08:59] <romulo> or du sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[08:59] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: this is a text session, so I won't lose it. I am restarting via brute force...
[08:59] <Toma-> reter: looks like an incomplete download
[08:59] <firebird_619> could someone please take a look at the output from trying to install WW2D which I pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12588    I am trying to install WW2D on Breezy but it isn't working.
[08:59] <romulo> or ls -l sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[08:59] <CNAP> romulo, yes i believe i did.  did an "apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-20-686"
[08:59] <mike> romulo, i'm running dapper
[09:00] <romulo> CNAP, ok so AFAIK you should reboot
[09:00] <mike> does that make a difference?
[09:00] <romulo> mike, afaik you dont need to uninstall it
[09:00] <romulo> mike, i never messed with dapper(YET, till tomorrow >:) )
[09:00] <CNAP> romulo, ok let me try it and see what happens
[09:00] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: it says the gnome kbd settings differ from those of the X sys settings. Which one should prevail?
[09:00] <romulo> CNAP, oki.
[09:00] <romulo> lgc, it depends.
[09:00] <reter> romalu: can not access. no such file or directory
[09:00] <lgc> romulo: on what?
[09:01] <romulo> reter, ls
[09:01] <romulo> and check if the file is there
[09:01] <romulo> lgc, depends on wich one you modified for the right
[09:01] <romulo> if they differ, sometihng is different
[09:01] <romulo> you should know the one is right
[09:01] <Toma-> reter: can you see the file in nautilus? just click it and itll tell you the size in the bottom toolbar
[09:01] <mike> what about the agpgart module stuff?
[09:01] <mike> any idea?
[09:01] <romulo> mike, i use ati's agp
[09:02] <mike> kk
[09:02] <patrick52222> how do i install .tar.gzz
[09:02] <mike> what card do youo have?
[09:02] <romulo> mike, from /etc/X11/xorg.conf, Section "Device" -> Option  "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
[09:02] <romulo> mike, Ati Mobility Radeon X600
[09:02] <mike> sweet
[09:02] <romulo> yeah its an awesome card
[09:03] <mike> i'm so scared this wont' work
[09:03] <mike> lol
[09:03] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: do you use gnome more than anything else?
[09:03] <lgc> romulo: I just went through the reconfigure process. I just chose the Gnome settings in hope of the best...
[09:03] <romulo> dont be
[09:03] <mike> i had to reinstall earlier because i messed with some diversions
[09:03] <damian_> the most that could happen is your computer explode in a massive fireball .. you'll be dead
[09:03] <damian_> :P
[09:03] <mike> cause i didn't know what i was doing:(
[09:03] <mike> haha
[09:03] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: so far yes. I mean I don't have KDE installed...
[09:03] <romulo> i had once a computer burning on my side
[09:04] <romulo> cpu heated, melted and MB burned
[09:04] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: then try the gnome settings
[09:04] <mike> what's the diff between xfree86 and x.org?
[09:04] <patrick52222> i have this file ddclient.tar.gz and i need to install it
[09:04] <romulo> mike, X.org is more updated, no stupid license issues
[09:04] <romulo> mike, X.org is also prettier :D and a young girl
[09:04] <romulo> =P
[09:04] <mike> ahhhhhhh
[09:04] <romulo> you know...teens are hot
[09:04] <mike> hahahahahahahah
[09:04] <OrTigaS> i tried visudo and add "user ALL=(ALL) ALL" but still the same wont accept sudo -s passwd
[09:04] <romulo> mike, where you from
[09:05] <mike> u.s.
[09:05] <mike> iowa
[09:05] <romulo> OrTigaS, repeat your phrase wont make us know about your problem more than before
[09:05] <ahmeni> romulo: from super nerd to pervert in three lines!
[09:05] <romulo> ahmeni, haha
[09:05] <nalioth_zZz> !offtopic
[09:05] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[09:05] <romulo> i have my secrets ;)
[09:05] <romulo> nalioth_zZz, you are sleeping, you cant argue
[09:05] <romulo> =P
[09:06] <mike> so, after i download this, i'll create the ubuntu packages
[09:06] <mike> can i do that with x running?
[09:06] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: romulo, didn't work! The kbd is still dead!
[09:06] <romulo> mike, you should install the *.run from X first, then create and install the packages
[09:06] <OrTigaS> romulo i login as a user and i cant do "sudo -s" it always say "sorry, try again" when i enter the right passwd
[09:06] <mike> what?
[09:06] <OrTigaS> so its sudoer issue
[09:07] <callum> hi
[09:07] <romulo> OrTigaS, i dont know much about sudo, cant help you with this
[09:07] <romulo> mike, thats right
[09:07] <callum> hello
[09:07] <OrTigaS> sudo cant help here :(
[09:07] <callum> can u hear me
[09:07] <mike> you're just gonna have to give me step by step code as well
[09:07] <mike> :)
[09:07] <romulo> mike, you should run as superuser the *.run file inside X(on a X session) and then buildpkg and install the debs
[09:07] <romulo> mike, oki, as long i stay awake
[09:07] <mike> haha
[09:08] <romulo> callum, yes
[09:08] <mike> xsession is just like... gnome or kde, right?
[09:08] <romulo> mike, yeah
[09:08] <patrick52222> i have this file ddclient.tar.gz and i need to install it
[09:08] <romulo> patrick24601, tar -zxvf ddclient.tar.gz
[09:08] <callum> sweet
[09:08] <romulo> cd to the directory and read the README file.
[09:08] <romulo> or even INSTALL or COMPILE
[09:08] <callum> how do i open terminal
[09:08] <mike> so, the .run file executes, and prompts me to either do an install that way, or create packages
[09:08] <romulo> callum, gnome or kde?
[09:08] <mike> i want to create packages, not do the install
[09:08] <callum> gnome
[09:09] <romulo> callum, Alt<F2>, gnome-terminal, <RETURN>
[09:09] <Blario> anyone know what to do to get the wireless working on a laptop?
[09:09] <romulo> mike, you need to do both
[09:09] <Blario> hp zv6000
[09:09] <Blario> actually, nvm, i can google this
[09:09] <romulo> mike, just install commonly with the run
[09:09] <mike> blario, do you have dapper?
[09:09] <Blario> yeah
[09:09] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: with X setting it DOES work!
[09:09] <callum> alt f2 aint working
[09:09] <mike> yeah, you want to use ndiswrapper?
[09:09] <romulo> mike, then generate the buildpkg and install then
[09:09] <Blario> i tested with teh live cd and it would never connect
[09:09] <mikeo1> how do i extract a deb?
[09:10] <Blario> i hate ndiswrapper
[09:10] <Blario> lol
[09:10] <mike> i love it:)
[09:10] <callum> is gnome debian?
[09:10] <Blario> ok... question
[09:10] <mike> only way i've ever gotten my wireless card to work
[09:10] <romulo> callum, no.
[09:10] <mikeo1> how do i extract a package?
[09:10] <callum> ok
[09:10] <Blario> did you ever get it to a point where could switch network easily?
[09:10] <romulo> callum, www.debian.org and www.gnome.org, you should have answers
[09:10] <mike> yeah
[09:10] <mike> gtk wifi
[09:10] <Blario> i had it running on fc4 and after i would disconnect from one, i would have to restart to be able to get on another
[09:11] <romulo> mikeo1, dpkg -x package.deb
[09:11] <Blario> and you have some gui that works wit it?
[09:11] <romulo> to install, dpkg -i package.deb
[09:11] <mike> yeah
[09:11] <romulo> Blario, i do, but ndiswrapper dont work here
[09:11] <Blario> cause i was having to do all my connecting and configuration from cmd line
[09:11] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: you awake?
[09:11] <callum> does anyone have the link to java?
[09:11] <romulo> check up wifi-radar on gnomefiles.org i think
[09:11] <romulo> callum, www.sun.com/java i believe
[09:11] <Blario> alright
[09:11] <mike> ya, wifi radar is a good one
[09:11] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: muy bien!
[09:12] <Blario> alright, imma write both those down
[09:12] <Blario> you all know this works by default on suse right? lol
[09:12] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: only thing is, with the other user I chose Gnome settings and it didn't work. How can I revert the settings to be those of X?
[09:12] <mike> yeah, but i love ubuntu
[09:12] <mike> :)
[09:13] <Blario> [03:11]  (romulo) Blario, i do, but ndiswrapper dont work here
[09:13] <Blario> you said it doesn't work on dapper?
[09:13] <romulo> Blario, no.
[09:13] <romulo> Blario, actually im running debian-amd64 , not dapper
[09:13] <Blario> alright, that might be a good thing
[09:13] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: use the settings that work  System > preferences > keyboard
[09:13] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: thanks!
[09:14] <Blario> alright, so i'd use wifi-radar instead of ndiswrapper. . . ?
[09:14] <mike> alright romulo, it'sdownloaded
[09:14] <mike> what command to install?
[09:14] <romulo> Blario, no, you use both together
[09:14] <Blario> ahh
[09:14] <Blario> alright
[09:14] <romulo> Blario, first do ndiswrapper, and use wifi-radar to do graphical configuration
[09:14] <Blario> ahh
[09:14] <romulo> mike, whats the file name?
[09:14] <Blario> alright
[09:14] <tyler> How do I make the clock in Kubuntu not use military time?
[09:14] <Tomcat_> Somebody with breezy here who can confirm that firefox-1.0.8 doesn't show the "Manage Bookmarks" window any more?
[09:15] <mike> ati-driver-installer-8.24.8-x86.run
[09:15] <alth> Greetings!
[09:15] <romulo> mike, ok, sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.24.8-x86.run
[09:15] <callum> tyler, right click, prefrences
[09:15] <mike> does it matter where i run it from?
[09:15] <romulo> mike, it should be runned from the folder the file is in
[09:15] <Blario> alth, that's what i'm about to try
[09:15] <alth> Blario: Cool :)
[09:16] <Blario> any issues i should know about?
[09:16] <mike> i mean, but does it need to be anywhere special?
[09:16] <romulo> alth, doing debian-amd64 on my laptop, going for dapper
[09:16] <romulo> mike, no.
[09:16] <mike> like right now i downloaded the file to my desktop
[09:16] <mike> k
[09:16] <Alth> romulo, cool :)
[09:16] <romulo> Alth, yeah
[09:16] <romulo> Alth, may i ask you wich wireless card?
[09:16] <Alth> I did have a question regarding my latop...
[09:16] <romulo> if you have one
[09:17] <rony_> Does any one here find that evolution crashes at lauch when using an exchange server as the mail server?
[09:17] <Alth> romulo: I have a PCMCIA card, D-link DWL-650 I think, but I hven't tried to get it working yet.
[09:17] <mike> whoa, it doesn't let me do sudo
[09:17] <romulo> mike, whats the output?
[09:18] <Blario> pz. about to try this install
[09:18] <mike> command not found
[09:18] <romulo> brb 1 min.
[09:18] <Alth> Anyway, my question - in windows, my laptop can scroll scrollbars with the sides of the trackpad. Is there any way to do that in Linux?
[09:19] <ronybeck> any one know why Evolution crashes at launch when using the exchange plugin?
[09:19] <acad> hey jeery
[09:19] <PwcrLinux> Hi there
[09:19] <Alth> Anyone know?
[09:20] <Alth> Guess not :(
[09:20] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: It's working fine now! Thanks a million, man!
[09:20] <vinboy> hi
[09:21] <vinboy> i'm using athlon
[09:21] <vinboy> should I sudo apt-get install linux-686?
[09:21] <lari> yes i think that would be wise
[09:21] <romulo> vinboy, i think athlon is k7
[09:21] <romulo> back
[09:21] <lari> actually
[09:21] <lari> yes
[09:21] <lari> k7
[09:21] <romulo> isnt 686 pentium 2 and pentium 3/pro
[09:21] <lari> 686 might have optimizations the athlon processor doesn't support
[09:22] <Alth> Ok, another question. What are the disadvantages in running Dapper?
[09:22] <lari> its a beta
[09:22] <mike> romula, shouldn't it let me install it that way?
[09:22] <romulo> Alth, its not done.
[09:22] <mike> romulo
[09:22] <romulo> mike, you should try su then
[09:22] <Alth> romulo, I see.
[09:22] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: I'm off for tonight. Again: Muchas gracias!!
[09:22] <romulo> mike, type whereis sudo
[09:22] <lgc> q
[09:22] <lgc> q
[09:23] <mike> /usr/bin/sudo
[09:23] <romulo> so
[09:23] <mike> /usr/bin/X11/sudo
[09:23] <romulo> /usr/bin/sudo ./ati-something.run
[09:23] <mike> /usr/share/man/man8/sudo.8.gz
[09:23] <sfar> Anyone know how to get anti-aliased fonts in aMSN? I found this page but i still dont get it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84765.html
[09:23] <romulo> still trying to figure why it said sudo command not found
[09:24] <mike> is  there another way to execute .run files?
[09:24] <romulo> does TK support anti alias?
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> can someone remind me what is the wiki entry to get anti-aliased fonts?
[09:24] <romulo> mike
[09:24] <romulo> yes
[09:24] <romulo> mike, infact i forgot to tell ya to chmod it
[09:24] <sfar> romulo, what is TK?
[09:24] <romulo> chmod +x ati-something
[09:24] <mike> ahahahahaha
[09:24] <romulo> sfar, afaik aMsn is built under tk
[09:24] <mike> thar we go
[09:24] <romulo> sorry
[09:25] <sfar> romulo:  because on the page someone has written "Also when compiling TK I had to change --with-tcl=/usr/local/lib/tcl8.5 to --with-tcl=/usr/local/lib."
[09:25] <mike> now it says detected version of x does not have a matching "x700" directory
[09:25] <romulo> hmm maybe that person tk library is on /usr/local/lib =P
[09:25] <caiziyuan> hello
[09:25] <romulo> mike, hmm why x700?
[09:25] <mike> i am apparently runing xorg 7.0.0
[09:26] <romulo> hmm
[09:26] <romulo> you can do X --version
[09:26] <vinboy> romulo: so I should install linux-k7?
[09:26] <sfar> romulo: so how do i recompile TK? :)
[09:26] <romulo> vinboy, yeah
[09:26] <romulo> vinboy, is a athlon xp or 64?
[09:26] <vinboy> romulo: thanks :D
[09:26] <romulo> sfar, hmm download the tarballs and recompile it
[09:26] <romulo> vinboy, yw
[09:26] <caiziyuan> #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:26] <vinboy> it is athlon xp mobile
[09:26] <Alth> Is ubuntu likely to detect my D-Link card automatically?
[09:27] <romulo> so k7
[09:27] <Alth> If not, what should I do?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Alth: boot with the livecd first
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> to make sure
[09:28] <romulo> fyrestrtr, maybe the kernel is old and might not find it, no?
[09:28] <romulo> anyway it needs to be tested =P
[09:29] <romulo> mike, so?
[09:29] <mike> how do you enable su?
[09:29] <xbox_sky> vmware - LPT1 Port "check device or cable error" i'm trying to use my mp3 player in vmware, how do I use/give access to my LPT1 Port?
[09:29] <romulo> mike, i think thats in the ubuntu faq
[09:29] <nmsa> good morning
[09:30] <romulo> xbox_sky, it is on paralel port?
[09:30] <xbox_sky> romulo yeah that's correct
[09:30] <romulo> xbox_sky, paralel is /dev/ttySX?
[09:30] <romulo> i cant remember
[09:30] <romulo> =P
[09:31] <nmsa> just installed dapper on a PIII and after the updated Gnome starts no more and the system is blocked; can't do a thing except reset; anyone had the same issue? any solution ?
[09:31] <xbox_sky> hmm
[09:31] <xbox_sky> romulo there's a /dev/tty but not SX?
[09:31] <romulo> nmsa, you cant even login?
[09:31] <romulo> xbox_sky, i dont remember -_-
[09:31] <nmsa> can't do anything!
[09:31] <mcdenyer> hey whats a sweet game i can get of synaptic haha im bored
[09:31] <romulo> nmsa, kernel finish loading AND?
[09:32] <romulo> mcdenyer, mahjongg
[09:32] <romulo> :D
[09:32] <xbox_sky> oh ok tx anyways
[09:32] <nmsa> romulo: I see starting Gnome and then a black screen and the cursor not bliking
[09:32] <mike> k, romulo, installing
[09:32] <nmsa> can't go to console mode, nothing
[09:32] <xbox_sky> there's a linux app I can use, but after 4 mp3s the rest gets corrupted :
[09:32] <mike> custom or automatic install?
[09:33] <romulo> sh*t, sorry i closed xchat
[09:33] <romulo> misclicked
[09:33] <mike> romulo you scared me
[09:33] <mike> anyway, custom or automatic install?
[09:33] <romulo> automatic
[09:33] <romulo> its cold here, brb, going to get a shirt
[09:34] <Alth> Alth: boot with the livecd first <-- I'm running ubuntu now :P
[09:34] <mike> romulo, k, exiting installer now
[09:34] <Alth> Right, I'm rebooting and hoping it'll detect
[09:34] <mike> do i need to do any config file stuff?
[09:34] <mike> or wait?
[09:34] <nmsa> I think I will reinstall again and will not update soon, but don't know the problems ... or maybe update w/o the X or gnome packages
[09:34] <romulo> mike, now do the buildpkg
[09:35] <romulo> sudo ./ati-something --buildpkg Ubuntu/yours =P
[09:35] <mike> k
[09:35] <romulo> i think theres a --list command or something, check out the --help
[09:35] <PwcrLinux> good morning paul
[09:36] <romulo> how do you know you love linux? You buy a penguin instead of a dog
[09:36] <romulo> =P
[09:36] <ompaul> !goodmorning
[09:36] <mat> good morning
[09:36] <romulo> morning, altough is 4:40 am here
[09:36] <romulo> =P
[09:36] <mike> says requested package is not supported
[09:36] <mike> :|
[09:37] <mat> 9:36 AM here
[09:37] <romulo> hmm try a diff revision
[09:37] <romulo> let me see
[09:37] <PwcrLinux> 237 am here
[09:37] <mike> can't i use the installer to generate packages?
[09:37] <romulo> oh yes
[09:37] <romulo> try it
[09:37] <romulo> =P
[09:37] <mike> k
[09:38] <romulo> hmm there is Ubuntu/dapper
[09:38] <mike> yeah
[09:38] <mike> ubuntu/dapper
[09:38] <mike> or ubuntu/6.04
[09:39] <romulo> hmm capital "U"
[09:39] <TraceGreen> Hello, I try to boot system, but there is nothing in /dev, anyone know why?
[09:39] <romulo> thats freaky =P
[09:40] <mike> i say...
[09:40] <romulo> omg im freazing
[09:40] <romulo> =P
[09:40] <mike> haha
[09:40] <mike> dapper
[09:40] <mike> can i use this ati installer and create 'em?
[09:40] <mike> or do i need to exit and it via commandline?
[09:40] <Alth> On my windows box now with my laptop next to me...easier to type :D
[09:40] <romulo> i dunno
[09:40] <romulo> i always do on command line
[09:40] <cafuego> ATI installer?
[09:40] <romulo> cafuego, yes.
[09:40] <mike> k
[09:41] <Alth> Hmm, the laptop didn't detect the wireless card...Not sure if the card is dead or not. Do I have to do anything special?
[09:41] <cafuego> Use the fglrx package.
[09:41] <mike> ???
[09:41] <romulo> cafuego, hes doing the default way with ati installer
[09:41] <cafuego> !ati
[09:41] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:41] <cafuego> romulo: He shouldn't.
[09:41] <romulo> cafuego, well he didnt set the binary before, so as long as i know the default one, im helping him
[09:41] <romulo> im not yet on my dapper wishes
[09:42] <romulo> mike?
[09:42] <brownie17> does anyone know if there's some command i can type to check my net status?
[09:42] <Alth> Anyone know if I have to do anything special to run a PCMCIA card? Or if the card works should it just run?
[09:42] <mike> kya?
[09:42] <cafuego> installing unpackaged software is a bad idea, especially when it's as low-quality as ATI stuff
 does anyone know if there's some command i can type to check my net status? <== Ping?
[09:42] <romulo> mike, so?
[09:42] <mike> ??
[09:42] <romulo> mike, extracted?
[09:43] <brownie17> Alth,  new to linux, it still in format "ping http://www.google.com"? for example?
[09:43] <romulo> cafuego, i agree, but since i didnt knew that before, i couldnt help him
[09:43] <mike> i want to do it the other way
[09:43] <mike> lol
[09:43] <mike> i can't create the packages through commandline
[09:43] <PwcrLinux> brownie17: : for netstat of listening ports or send a ping on server to check if they're alive?
[09:43] <romulo> mike, great, so just follow the links :D
[09:43] <Alth> Sure is, brownie17.
[09:43] <romulo> should be easier
[09:43] <cafuego> 'sudo apt-get install fglrx; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:43] <NET||abuse> i've got a problem, i've enabled universe and even backports, ut i can't find libmysqlclient15
[09:44] <mike> what was the !ati thing?
[09:44] <brownie17> Alth, "ping: unknown host http://www.google.com
[09:44] <brownie17> "
[09:44] <romulo> a bot command
[09:44] <romulo> probably
[09:44] <brownie17> PwcrLinux, just to check if my net is working
[09:44] <Alth> No http://?
[09:44] <romulo> cafuego you forgot the xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:44] <cafuego> mike: Go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:44] <mike> i already installed via the ati installer though
[09:44] <cafuego> mike: it has full instructions.
[09:45] <Alth> brownie17: Just do ping www.google.com. :)
[09:45] <romulo> i think that doesnt make diff mike
[09:45] <cafuego> mike: Remove whatever the ATI installer put on your system and cross your fingers.
[09:45] <romulo> you can still install the pkg ones
[09:45] <Alth> Or ubuntu.com, if you want to be loyal :P
[09:45] <romulo> lol.
[09:45] <PwcrLinux> brownie17: in the terminal box, and type  "ping addy" and be aware the ping doesn't end, you can use ctrl-c to cancell pingings
[09:45] <brownie17> Alth, thanks. that works fine and dandy
[09:45] <romulo> cafuego, been using ati installer for a long time, its not that bad.
[09:45] <NET||abuse> i've got a 5.0.16 mysql server on a system here, but i want to connect to it remotely, problem is my mysqlclient is too old, doesn't support authentication method, is the error message
[09:45] <romulo> its just not cool out the box, but it works
[09:45] <romulo> and it doesnt mess with your system
[09:45] <brownie17> PwcrLinux, in windows there is a switch you can use so it only pings for 15 seconds
[09:45] <mike> gah, i've doing this one ove rand over
[09:45] <romulo> since it generates *.debs
[09:45] <cafuego> romulo: ATI is _so_ bad that I couldn't even use their hardware until last year.
[09:45] <vinboy> i have installed the linux-k7
[09:46] <mike> romulo, i'm with you
[09:46] <vinboy> how do I use that kernel instead of the 386?
[09:46] <romulo> cafuego, i agree is bad on linux
[09:46] <mike> i'm creating the packages
[09:46] <NET||abuse> so since 14 is the most up to date i can find in the debs,,, i presume is libmysqlclient15 i need
[09:46] <cafuego> They still don't support powerpc.
[09:46] <niss3> some swedish here?
[09:46] <cafuego> vinboy: Just reboot
[09:46] <PwcrLinux> brownie17: yes, for windows limits to 15 pings, so the linux have unlimited of pings..
[09:46] <romulo> cafuego, nvidia does?
[09:46] <romulo> PwcrLinux, actually if you do ping -t on windows it goes unlimited
[09:46] <romulo> =P
[09:46] <cafuego> romulo: not powerpc, but they have supported amd64 (what I have) for a very long time.
[09:47] <NET||abuse> brownie17, -t just keeps going
[09:47] <romulo> cafuego, ati too.
[09:47] <romulo> im using amd64 drivers right now
[09:47] <romulo> with 3d acceleration
[09:47] <PwcrLinux> romulo: Oh yea, I forgot lol
[09:47] <C-O-L-T> Where is ubuntu BETA, today is April the 20th
[09:47] <sfar> What to do if my keyboard isn't responding? It works, but niss3 configured xserver-xorg wrong so that almost NO buttons work :)
[09:47] <cafuego> romulo: No, not ATI. Not supported when I bought mine, which was over a year since it was first introduced.
[09:47] <brownie17> PwcrLinux, is english your primary language? i'm having a little trouble understandinhg you sorry
[09:47] <sfar> s/my/a
[09:47] <PwcrLinux> brownie17: yea, i'm in USA
[09:47] <niss3> i changed my keymap :(
[09:47] <romulo> cafuego, i dunno a year ago, but since i bought my notebook it does support it, and well.
[09:48] <romulo> cafuego, not so well as i wish to
[09:48] <mike> no, that didn't work
[09:48] <mike> damnit
[09:48] <brownie17> PwcrLinux, so there is no switch to limit the pings?
[09:48] <romulo> mike, what? generate the packages?
[09:48] <vinboy> thx cafuego
[09:48] <mike> yeah
[09:48] <sfar> He cant login (enter his username) without a keyboard.. please help :)
[09:48] <romulo> do a modprobe fglrx and then change your driver on xorg.conf from ati, radeon to fglrx
[09:48] <PwcrLinux> brownie17: hang on
[09:49] <PwcrLinux> romulo: is there a ping can limits up to 15 pings in the linux terminal box?
[09:49] <romulo> cafuego, i still hate those closed source drivers
[09:49] <romulo> PwcrLinux, dunno, i just ctrl+c when i want to stop it
[09:49] <romulo> =P
[09:49] <PwcrLinux> romulo: okay
[09:49] <ahmeni> PwcrLinux: ping -c 15 blah.com
[09:49] <romulo> yeah
[09:49] <romulo> thats right
[09:49] <PwcrLinux> aha
[09:49] <romulo> man ping show -c means count :D
[09:50] <brownie17> PwcrLinux, it's okay, i found one
[09:50] <romulo> was just looking =P
[09:50] <brownie17> PwcrLinux, thanks for your help
[09:50] <brownie17> cya
[09:50] <PwcrLinux> brownie17: ur welcome
[09:51] <mike> ah, didn't have build essential installed
[09:51] <niss3> can i login to my account if my keyboard dosent work? :/
[09:51] <niss3> if yes, how?
[09:52] <ompaul> niss3, if your machine has sshd invoked you can log in remotely but dead keyboards should be replaced with live ones :)
[09:52] <romulo> ompaul, hahaha
[09:53] <mike> k
[09:53] <mike> packages generate
[09:53] <romulo> ompaul, live ones that eat your fingers and stick you to computer til 6am
[09:53] <romulo> =P
[09:53] <mike> d
[09:53] <romulo> mike, dpkg -i the driver and driver-dev now
[09:53] <romulo> =P
[09:53] <PwcrLinux> spilled onto kb? or just dead? lol
[09:53] <ompaul> !enter
[09:53] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[09:53] <ompaul> romulo, ^^
[09:53] <ahmeni> Real men generate PS/2 data by hand!
[09:53] <niss3> !enter
[09:53] <romulo> ubotu, sorry.
[09:53] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, romulo
[09:53] <ompaul> that is the channel bot
[09:53] <FlannelKing> !bot
[09:53] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:54] <NET||abuse> please can someone help me.... i've been trying to connect to a mysql server versin 5.0.16, i'm pretty sure i need the libmysqlclient15 package, however i've done everything i know how and can only find libmysqlclient14 in the debs.. i've enabled universe and backports...
[09:54] <niss3> ompaul i changed my keymap to "see" :/
[09:54] <romulo> yeah i know
[09:54] <emu_> hi
[09:54] <NET||abuse> What do i need to do?
[09:54] <FlannelKing> niss3: thats an OS speciifc thing, right? so, you can switch to rescue mode from grub?
[09:55] <mike> k
[09:55] <mike> rom
[09:55] <mike> did both
[09:55] <ompaul> niss3, so try to work out by using the echo function in the "username" space what the letters are now mapped to
[09:55] <romulo> mike, ok, so now open up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:55] <niss3> FlannelKing yes, i have tried that to. but when im restaring the computer (i wanna login to my account) then the keys dont work.
[09:56] <ompaul> mike please put all your thoughts on one line with a comma between them, thanks
[09:56] <romulo> lol
[09:57] <mike> alright romulo, i opened the xorg.conf file
[09:57] <Marco> who'sMatthew
[09:57] <mike> and disregarded ompauls comment
[09:57] <xbox_sky> im in vmware options, and it needs an output file in order to locate my lpt1 port, anyone know where Its located?
[09:57] <mike> :)
[09:57] <romulo> mike, search for Device Section wich says Driver "radeon", ati or fglrx
[09:57] <Marco> I'm  sorry!!
[09:57] <romulo> mike, oh, better, run aticonfig
[09:58] <mike> so, don't edit the xorg?
[09:58] <romulo> yeah
[09:58] <romulo> aticonfig --initial
[09:58] <mike> k
[09:59] <mike> now open xorg.conf?
[09:59] <romulo> no no
[09:59] <romulo> modprobe fglrx
[09:59] <mike> operation not permittted?
[09:59] <romulo> sudo modprobe fglrx
[10:00] <ompaul> romulo, there is a much easier way, mike: >>sudo dpkg-recongfigure xserver-xorg<< and choose fglrx as the card
[10:00] <mike> no love
[10:00] <romulo> ompaul, aticonfig --initial already does that
[10:00] <romulo> mike, what you mean?
[10:01] <mike> error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-686/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[10:01] <teletubbie> how do I setup ossmixer for ubuntu?
[10:01] <romulo> hmm, just try to reopen X.org
[10:01] <teletubbie> my gnome volume tells me it is using ossmixer. but how do I configure my  media player to use ossmixer?
[10:01] <romulo> mike, Ctrl+alt+Backspace or relog
[10:02] <mike> k
[10:04] <C-O-L-T> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta?highlight=%28beta%29
[10:05] <mike> k, restarted x
[10:05] <teletubbie> some one helps me with esd. why do I get these errors? http://pastebin.com/670898
[10:06] <romulo> mike, run fgl_glxgears
[10:06] <mike> didn't run
[10:06] <mike> badrequest badmatch
[10:06] <mike> failed request i mean
[10:07] <romulo> hmm so driver isnt up
[10:07] <romulo> type lsmod | grep fglrx
[10:07] <mike> doesn't show anyting
[10:07] <PwcrLinux> bbl
[10:07] <mike> i never changed the xorg to fglrx
[10:07] <romulo> mike, aticonfig does that for you afaik
[10:08] <mikl> where's the "Take screenshot"-option in the menus gone? Can you turn it back on?
[10:08] <mike> should i look at the xorg.conf?
[10:08] <romulo> mike, try to load the fglrx again, sudo modprobe fglrx
[10:08] <mikl>  - I think it used to be in the "System" menu
[10:08] <ompaul> mike https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI that is a step by step guide to doing what you want
[10:08] <Ohzie> Hey. Are there any packages in Synaptic for a virtual machine?
[10:08] <mike> ompaul, i've tried taht guide like 3 times
[10:09] <ompaul> mike, how new to market is the card?
[10:09] <mike> it's a 9100 igp
[10:09] <mike> it's old to the market
[10:09] <teletubbie> why can't I do apt-get install qt?
[10:09] <teletubbie> !qt
[10:09] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[10:11] <mike> why do i have two device sections in my xorg.conf?
[10:11] <ompaul> mike, correct me if I am wrong I think your on dapper, there are notes at the bottom of the page about same, might be worth looking at
[10:11] <mike> yeah, i'm on dapper
[10:11] <ompaul> the other thing is that the dapper channel is #ubuntu+1
[10:12] <romulo> mike, ati creates it, but it sets its own to default
[10:13] <ice_1963> is there a driver for ati?
[10:13] <Alth> Popular question =o
[10:13] <ice_1963> for linux
[10:13] <romulo> !ati
[10:13] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:13] <romulo> now i say only that =p
[10:13] <C-O-L-T> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta?highlight=%28beta%29
[10:14] <romulo> what changed C-O-L-T ?
[10:15] <C-O-L-T> romulo: that is the Dapper Drake BETA page, the iso's are not there but soon we will see those too, they are loading them now
[10:15] <romulo> C-O-L-T, hmm i just asked cause u pasted twice
[10:16] <FlannelKing> romulo: you can upgrade to the beta, the command is on that page, gksudo something, near the top
[10:16] <romulo> im crazy to download those isos, will install them today, after school will buy some blank cdrs :D
[10:16] <romulo> FlannelKing, using debian-amd64 right now.
[10:16] <romulo> FlannelKing, will go to dapper today, waiting the beta
[10:17] <C-O-L-T> romulo: I know :). In order to inform the community :))
[10:17] <romulo> ah cool =)
[10:18] <romulo> lets everybody download through torrents ;)
[10:18] <teletubbie> !sound
[10:18] <ubotu> I guess sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[10:18] <svenske> Does anyone knows, what`s the problem with the german breezy sources. no updates... de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ---> it's dead?
[10:19] <teletubbie> !esd
[10:20] <polpak> !info esd
[10:20] <teletubbie> in what line should I put this line? alias sound-slot-0 nvsound
[10:21] <teletubbie> in what file*
[10:22] <Alth> Question.
[10:22] <Alth> How does one manage multiple monitors on Ubuntu?
[10:22] <GruB> yo everybody:D
[10:22] <polpak> Alth, there isn't an easy way.  Want to just plug an external monitor in and have it ignore the LCD temporarily.
[10:23] <polpak> Alth, what's the output from lspci?
[10:24] <polpak> Alth, use pastebin pls
[10:24] <fliegenderfrosch> hello! i've just installed ubuntu dapper on a Asus A6Vc notebook. Now the sound is not working. The Audio-Preferences dialog tells me, the sound card is a "HDA Intel", so it seems to be recognized. Can anybody help me?
[10:24] <Alth> polpak: Pardon, would you speak noob please? :P
[10:24] <Alth> Also, I'm IRCing from my windows box, easier to type here. Just so you know.
[10:25] <polpak> Alth, open a terminal, and type lspci. Then copy/paste the output from that command into pastebin
[10:25] <polpak> !pastebin
[10:25] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:25] <GruB> i'm noob :D
[10:25] <GruB>
[10:25] <GruB>
[10:25] <GruB> but i love Ubuntu;pp
[10:25] <GruB> oka ja lece

[10:25] <Rhasta> wow
[10:29] <ice_1963> hello :) when i go to install ubuntu i tip server to install the bass.....then i install xserver-xorg then x-window-system-core  ..but how do i install gnome-desktop?
[10:29] <chavo> ice_1963, ubuntu-desktop
[10:29] <ice_1963> that's it
[10:30] <ice_1963> ok t/u
[10:30] <polpak> ice_1963, are you just wanting gnome, or do you want everything else?
[10:30] <stylewalka> hi  I problems installing java, maybe anyone could help me ?
[10:30] <ice_1963> jest gnome
[10:30] <polpak> ice_1963, you don't want ubuntu-desktop then
[10:31] <ice_1963> ok
[10:31] <polpak> ice_1963, try gnome-core
[10:31] <polpak> stylewalka, what's the problem?
[10:31] <tlop1970> hola
[10:32] <ice_1963> polpak:gnome-core is not it :)
[10:32] <polpak> ice_1963, how so?
[10:32] <stylewalka> there is an error with backport site: I took http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net
[10:33] <ice_1963> when i tip in gnome-core it dos not install gnome
[10:33] <polpak> ice_1963, sudo apt-get install gnome-core
[10:33] <tlop1970> hola carlos
[10:33] <ice_1963> that's not it
[10:34] <teletubbie> how do you configure a software to use osssink as audio output
[10:34] <ice_1963> i did that
[10:34] <polpak> stylewalka, I think you're following out of date instructions
[10:34] <ompaul> stylewalka, forget that and read the messages that ubotu (channel bot) sent you
[10:34] <ndlovu> hi all. My ubuntu machine has frozen, and I was wondering if there's any data I can collect from it that would be useful for developers doing bugtracking and the like? Or is it best to ignore it, reboot and carry on regardless?
[10:34] <polpak> ice_1963, ok.. so you should have gnome
[10:35] <polpak> ndlovu, if you have another machine and you installed openssh-server you could try to ssh in and see what's causeing the holdup
[10:35] <ice_1963> no i'm running kde right now
[10:35] <ice_1963> in etch
[10:36] <ndlovu> polpak: can't ssh in, but I see it works to open up another terminal on the machine
[10:36] <bliss1_> hi
[10:36] <romulo> going down
[10:36] <romulo> morning guys
[10:36] <polpak> ice_1963, ndlovu if you use top you might be able to see what's locking up and kill it
[10:36] <ndlovu> polpak: it seems to be X that's frozen then
[10:36] <ice_1963> ok
[10:36] <polpak> ndlovu, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:37] <polpak> ice_1963, sorry, that wasn't for you
[10:37] <ice_1963> lol
[10:37] <polpak> ice_1963, you need to log out to the console and restart X with gnome
[10:37] <ndlovu> polpak: I'm not too worried about getting it working, I was more wondering if it's somehting I should try to figure out in case it's a bug in the system, or is it more trouble than it's worth?
[10:37] <ice_1963> i will
[10:38] <ice_1963> polpak t u
[10:38] <polpak> ndlovu, unless it's the same thing everytime it may be more trouble than it's worth
[10:39] <bliss1_> DBO: how it going DBO?
[10:39] <ndlovu> polpak: thanks, I'll just restart then and give it more attention if it seems to be recurring.
[10:41] <yellow> hi
[10:41] <yellow> hi popak
[10:41] <nmsa> romulo: my gdm is ok, was and upgrade not completed ok
[10:41] <nmsa> now is ok
[10:42] <Hobbsee> Alth: hehe
[10:42] <Hobbsee> rmeove one?
[10:42] <Hobbsee> s/remove?
[10:42] <chavo> Alth, have you tried synergy?
[10:42] <selinium> Alth
[10:42] <yellow> thank you friends this is advocacy i was able to connect to gaim
[10:43] <selinium> Alth I have been known to do the same if with my mobile phone.... :)
[10:43] <selinium> Morning ompaul :)
[10:43] <ompaul> morning selinium
 Alth, have you tried synergy? <-- The KVM client thing?
[10:43] <yellow> hi
[10:43] <Alth> * ompaul hands Alth a can of paint <-- Thanks :P
[10:43] <chavo> yes you can use one mouse and keyboard for both computers
[10:44] <joachim> which group do is needed to use the administrator mode?
[10:44] <Alth> chavo - One linux, one windows, and the two won't network properly? :P
[10:44] <chavo> ahh
[10:44] <yellow> cant find anything wwwwwwwwwwith ubunto
[10:44] <chavo> well I use it between Windows and Linux, but the network is setup
[10:44] <Alth> My main box hates networking. My backup server networked fine.
[10:45] <yellow> boringgg
[10:45] <joachim> anyone?
[10:45] <yellow> windows ia far much bette you know
[10:45] <Warbo> joachim: admin
[10:45] <ompaul> yellow, ohh behave
[10:45] <Warbo> yellow: And spell
[10:45] <yellow> betteer
[10:45] <Alth> Better, damnit :P
[10:45] <yellow> sddjk
[10:46] <joachim> Warbo: okey.. i have that group when i try to use administrator mode i get cannot communicate with sudo
[10:46] <joachim> forgot a , there :p
[10:46] <joachim> *.
[10:46] <Warbo> joachim: Sounds like a problem with sudo, maybe networking
[10:47] <yellow> yeah better damn it
[10:47] <Warbo> Is it just me or do isos take ages to copy over USB 1? :(
[10:47] <DBO> yes they would
[10:47] <selinium> Warbo, they do, yes...
[10:48] <joachim> Warbo: yeah i can't get the net up.. something wrong somewhere.. are there other files i should check besided /etc/networking/interfaces ?
[10:48] <Warbo> joachim: It's that which is breaking sudo. Have you tried /etc/hosts?
[10:48] <davidwinter> hi all. is there a way I can watch WMV9 files?
[10:48] <Warbo> Finished :)
[10:48] <Alth> Ok, what's the quickest way to try to network my main box with my laptop? Main box is running windows. My backup server also is running windows, but worked straight off.
[10:48] <visik7> anyone have recently try dbootstrap a sid from breezy ?
[10:48] <hyperstream> hey is there a .rar gui or a way to make archive roller i think it is support the format?
[10:48] <davidwinter> I've tried watching them in totem, vlc and mplayer
[10:49] <Warbo> davidwinter: Are they encrypted?
[10:49] <DBO> !tell davidwinter about restricted
[10:49] <Warbo> hyperstream: unrar package
[10:49] <hyperstream> joachim,  router? dhcp?
[10:49] <hyperstream> Warbo, that has a gui interface?
[10:49] <selinium> davidwinter, Have you installed the w32codecs?
[10:50] <hyperstream> !avi
[10:50] <ubotu> from memory, avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:50] <Warbo> hyperstream: File Roller uses it if it is installed
[10:50] <davidwinter> Warbo: do you mean DRM encrypted? if so, no
[10:50] <joachim> hyperstream: trying to set up static.. dunno exactly what's suppose to be in /etc/hosts.. but it look alright..
[10:50] <hyperstream> oo cool thanks
[10:50] <davidwinter> selinium: no - hadn't heard of those
[10:50] <davidwinter> looking into them now
[10:50] <hyperstream> davidwinter,: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats go here and do everything cept real player if you dont wish to use real player
[10:51] <hyperstream> not just the w32 codecs the lot :P
[10:51] <Warbo> I don't much like that ubotu message, sounds like AVI is hopeless on Linux
[10:51] <davidwinter> thanks hyperstream
[10:51] <selinium> davidwinter, :)
[10:51] <hyperstream> davidwinter, no worries i had the same issue for a while
[10:54] <joachim> anyone have a suggestion to why i can't get asministrator mode in KDE on ubuntu? i have the admin group.. it just says "Su returned with an error"
[10:54] <Warbo> joachim: You need your networking to work if Linux is going to talk to itself (like asking for super user)
[10:55] <IceTox> How do I update my kernel?
[10:55] <joachim> argh.. that's what i'm trying to do.. i know how to fix it with X but i have some trouble without it..
[10:55] <hyperstream> lol
[10:55] <teletubbie> my columecontrol is not showing up in the panel
[10:55] <teletubbie> :\
[10:55] <IceTox> !tell IceTox about kernel update
[10:55] <teletubbie> Volume*
[10:55] <hyperstream> you need super user to setup networking
[10:55] <Warbo> IceTox: Use Synaptic (for all upgrades)
[10:56] <IceTox> ok then Warbo
[10:56] <IceTox> :(
[10:56] <hyperstream> ok so pm me what you have in your interfaces file
[10:56] <Warbo> hyperstream: But you don't need networking for single user mode
[10:56] <ice_1963> can i get Dapper Drake ?
[10:56] <hyperstream> true. you dont.
[10:56] <hyperstream> but i gather he wants to setup is networking yes ?
[10:56] <davidwinter> has anyone installed Xgl/Compiz on Dapper? any who have - have you had things not 'render' correctly? and look a bit fuzzy
[10:56] <Warbo> ice_1963: Yes, either upgrade breezy or install it fresh
[10:56] <teletubbie> !volume
[10:56] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, teletubbie
[10:57] <hyperstream> davidwinter, such as ?
[10:57] <cens0red> hi. I just re installed ubuntu breezy ... and I saved my .mozilla-thunderbird/ dir in a tar. Any tips for importing settings, mail, addressbook from it?
[10:57] <teletubbie> !volumecontrol
[10:57] <ubotu> teletubbie: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:57] <Warbo> davidwinter: I found it smoother than normal (except xine playback, which is hopeless)
[10:57] <davidwinter> hyperstream: well, the top menu bar, for example, the Places button wasn't visible
[10:57] <davidwinter> it had some funky colours all over it
[10:58] <CarNagE> Which window manager could you recommend for use on my laptop (350 MHz and only 128 MB of RAM)?
[10:58] <davidwinter> and the same with firefox
[10:58] <davidwinter> you could make out the main window, but within, only a few buttons were visible
[10:58] <Warbo> CarNagE: Fluxbox, WindowMaker, E16
[10:58] <hyperstream> davidwinter, did you have a theme before installing xgl compiz for gnome ?
[10:58] <davidwinter> the rest had some really weird effects all over it
[10:58] <davidwinter> only the default one for Dapper
[10:58] <hyperstream> hmm
[10:58] <CarNagE> Warbo: Thanks, will try em.
[10:58] <hyperstream> #ubuntu-xgl
[10:59] <ahmeni> CarNagE: Do you like your mouse?  If you hate it, ion3 is a godsend and lightweight
[10:59] <hyperstream> is the channel
[10:59] <davidwinter> cool - thanks hyperstream
[10:59] <CarNagE> ahmeni: Yes, I like my mouse :)
[10:59] <hyperstream> and #ubuntu+1 for dapper issues. :)
[10:59] <hyperstream> no worries
[10:59] <Warbo> CarNagE: Don't confuse E16 with E17! (E17 will not run well on such a system)
[11:00] <tombs> hi all
[11:00] <Warbo> tombs: Hi
[11:00] <teletubbie> how do I specify how many kb of ram my videocard uses?
[11:01] <bifodus> hi
[11:01] <Warbo> bifodus: hi
[11:01] <bifodus> does anyone know how i could speed up the "Configuring network interfaces" portion of the ubuntu startup?
[11:01] <Warbo> bifodus: It is checking for any reply to DHCP. If you know you don't use DHCP then you don't need it
[11:01] <bliss1_> ompaul@ i have applied
[11:02] <Warbo> bifodus: I don't know how to turn it off though :(
[11:02] <bifodus> yeah...i'm using DHCP, though...it just seems unusually long
[11:02] <bifodus> when it finishes I get an 'ok' at least
[11:02] <ompaul> bliss1_, ack
[11:03] <Warbo> bifodus: I usually get an ip within two bounces of the Networking progressbar
[11:04] <ice_1963> were can i DL Dapper Drake from?
[11:04] <bifodus> I just tested that by deactivating eth0 and then reactivating it in Connection Properties, and doing that only takes a few seconds
[11:05] <bifodus> could it have anything to do with wifi?
[11:05] <bifodus> (forgot to mention i'm on a laptop)
[11:05] <Warbo> ice_1963: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight6
[11:05] <Warbo> bifodus: Maybe it tries every network device. One replies straight away but it has to wait for the other (wired and wireless)
[11:06] <Alth> Quick question everyone...what's the quickest way to find out my ip in the console? EG windows ipconfig.
[11:06] <bifodus> yeah, i think you're probably right, Warbo
[11:06] <Warbo> Alth: ifconfig
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> Alth: ifconfig eth0
[11:06] <bifodus> reactivating wlan0 just fails
[11:06] <Alth> Thanks :)
[11:07] <bifodus> well, doesn't fail, but takes forever
[11:07] <bifodus> thanks for the idea Warbo..i'll try deactivating wifi and rebooting
[11:07] <bliss1_> ompaul; nicks will not know what hit them
[11:07] <Alth> Hmm, I can ping the Linux box from the windows, but can't get them to network :\
[11:08] <Warbo> Alth: Windows doesn't play nice with standard TCP/IP. You need Samba
[11:08] <IceTox> Warbo, when i've installed the new *.11 kernel, I just need a reboot and it's done?
 Alth: Windows doesn't play nice with standard TCP/IP. You need Samba <-- Noob talk please :P
[11:08] <linnuxxy> i have a virgin ubuntu 5.04 installation, how to upgrate firefox to 1.5.x?
[11:08] <hyperstream> !samba
[11:08] <ubotu> from memory, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[11:08] <Warbo> IceTox: You don't really need to reboot unless you need access to the new kernel, but yes a reboot will let you access the new kernel (it will have a new option in GRUB)
[11:09] <linnuxxy> i've tryed apt-get upgrade firefox
[11:09] <IceTox> linnuxxy, I believe "sudo apt-get install firefox" would solve that problem. This would update it to the newest version :-)
[11:09] <FlannelKing> linnuxxy: any reason youre still on 5.04?
[11:10] <Warbo> IceTox: Firefox 1.5 isn't in any stable at the moment, and 5.04 is a long way off. he needs a different repository or something
[11:10] <linnuxxy> i cant download the new version, my net is sucks
[11:10] <bifodus> that was much faster
[11:10] <IceTox> Warbo, It is in the debian sources. it's not in ubuntu's?
[11:11] <bliss1_> if i run the qemu and kqemu its it correct to think the bigger the swap partition the more virtual memory ?
[11:11] <FlannelKing> IceTox: 1.5 is in dapper, not Breezy, and definately not Hoary
[11:11] <KenSentMe> hi, i have a problem with ekiga on ubuntu, anyone uses this program?
[11:11] <agliv5> Greetings all :)  Does anyone know of a good FAQs site for running off a LiveCD?  Haven't been able to find what I'm looking for yet...
[11:12] <Warbo> IceTox: I assume it is in Sid (unstable) and probably Etch (testing), but that is dodgy to use on Ubuntu. It is in Dapper though. Maybe a full upgrade to breezy, then a full upgrade to dapper will do (but on slow internet would be annoying for 1 app)
[11:12] <linnuxxy> IceToxi got the fellowing error "E: Couldn't find package firefox"
[11:12] <linnuxxy> IceTox: i got the fellowing error "E: Couldn't find package firefox"
[11:12] <Warbo> linnuxxy: It is probably mozilla-firefox, but it won't be 1.5 anyway
[11:12] <FlannelKing> linnuxxy: once june1 rolls around, you'll definately want to be asking for a pressed CD ;)
[11:12] <IceTox> well, linnuxxy you talk to FlannelKing or Warbo.. it seems I'm really not updated on this breezy ubuntu thingie :-)
[11:13] <Warbo> IceTox: Try using Synaptic. That will update your Breezy :)
[11:13] <agliv5> Anyone?  FAQs?   LiveCD?
[11:13] <bliss1__> hi
[11:13] <agliv5> Greetings bliss1_
[11:14] <agliv5> :)
[11:14] <burns> hi
[11:14] <Warbo> agliv5: Sorry. KNOPPIX is a VERY popular LiveCD, so maybe you would find more on that? Doesn't contain same stuff as Ubuntu, but some principles apply (read only, etc)
[11:14] <bliss1__> agliv5: hi twice
[11:15] <IceTox> I'm used to apt-get Warbo.. I'm lazy :-)
[11:15] <bobyfixer> will 6.06 be realeased as an expresso livecd ?
[11:15] <FlannelKing> expresso?
[11:15] <Alth> ?
[11:15] <ompaul> agliv5, what do you want to know about, data persistance so you can run it with a stick?
[11:15] <_nirmal> kanotix very clever
[11:15] <agliv5> Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any FAQs specific to running a liveCD...  I try looking for knoppix
[11:15] <Warbo> IceTox: Ermm... First time I've heard command line reffered to as the lazy option
[11:16] <hyperstream> how do i setup a samba share so that when a windows box accesses the share it doesnt require a username and pass(as if it was a windows share)
[11:16] <agliv5> ompaul I want to mount my harddrives, but don't know how...
[11:16] <bliss1__> what virtual sotware would anyone recommend to run on a labtop , vmware, eqmu, xen?
[11:17] <FlannelKing> bobyfixer: yes, espresso will be available for dapper
[11:17] <IceTox> Warbo, well, it's the way i learned it using debian :-)
[11:17] <_nirmal> you require more RAM for running  virtual software
[11:17] <ice_1963> i like command line i use irssi :-)
[11:17] <Warbo> bliss1__: XEN isn't in Ubuntu, you'd have to set it up yourself (hard). VMWare may be a bit restrictive if you don't pay, QEmu is not the fastest, but quite good (get KQemu)
[11:18] <ompaul> agliv5, what is on them windows? (you do realise that writing to ntfs from Linux is very dangerous to the ntfs, you can thank MS for keeping the standard closed)
[11:18] <munti78> When typing "crontab -e" in Terminal it opens in nano, how can I open it in VIM?
[11:18] <Warbo> ompaul: I think writing to NTFS is safe, but unreliable (if it doesn't work then the drive isn't changed)
[11:18] <hyperstream> ompaul,  using the ntfs.sys and loading it thru winex its now possible i was reading somewhere
[11:19] <[Wiebel] > Hi
[11:19] <bliss1__> Warbo: hard as in source?
[11:19] <agliv5> ompaul I had Ubuntu installed and messed it up somehow, so now I want to save my personal data and reinstall
[11:19] <Warbo> hyperstream: I wouldn't trust WINE with system functions
[11:19] <[Wiebel] > is there an official howto to get xinerama working in ubuntu?
[11:19] <hyperstream> [Wiebel] ,  i would :)
[11:19] <ompaul> agliv5, ahh that is a lot easier join me in #agliv12345
[11:19] <munti78> Anyone?
[11:19] <Warbo> bliss1__: It has to be built into the kernel and stuff
[11:19] <[Wiebel] > hyperstream: you would what? :P
[11:19] <agliv5> Warbo NTFS is standardly mounted as read-only
[11:19] <cafuego> [Wiebel] : plug 'xunerama' into the wiki and see what tutns up.
[11:19] <Warbo> munti78: Set your Editor variable I think
[11:19] <hyperstream> eek that was directed at Warbo  :)
[11:19] <cafuego> but minus the typo3s
[11:20] <[Wiebel] > <nitwit mode> what wiki</nitwit mode>
[11:20] <FlannelKing> [Wiebel] : wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:20] <bliss1__> Warbo: the bigger the swap partition the more virtual memory is this true?
[11:20] <Warbo> agliv5: I know it is read only, but FUSE has some stuff on the go
[11:20] <FlannelKing> [Wiebel] : also check the forums (ubuntuforums.org)
[11:21] <cafuego> [Wiebel] : Tsssk...
[11:21] <cafuego> [Wiebel] : incidentally, #ubuntu-nl
[11:21] <[Wiebel] > :)
[11:21] <Warbo> bliss1__: I would assume so. I know for Qemu you have to unmount /dev/shm and remount it bigger to use more RAM in Qemu
[11:21] <ompaul> agliv5, join me in channel >> #agliv12345 << just click on it in xchat
[11:22] <agliv5> Warbo I do have some stuff on NTFS but would prefer burning to DVD-RW then formating the drives and then reinstating the data from the DVDs
[11:22] <munti78> Warbo: Where do I do that?
[11:22] <munti78> When typing "crontab -e" in Terminal it opens in nano, how can I open it in VIM?
[11:22] <IceTox> brb.. reboot of network...
[11:22] <Warbo> agliv5: That's what I would recommend. I was just trying to "big up the NTFS massif"
[11:23] <bliss1__> Warbo: i have been told you can run windows in qemu and the acclelorator kqemu does this apply to windows server?
[11:24] <munti78> Found it: export EDITOR vim
[11:24] <_tyler> how do i compress something for .aiz
[11:24] <Warbo> munti78: not sure sorry. Maybe getting rid of nano package?
[11:25] <Warbo> bliss1__: I would assume so. I have run Win 98 incredibly well (as in, it ran like on a PC, not that Win 98 is good :)) but I could never get Win XP to load, probably not powerful enough
[11:25] <Warbo> bliss1__: The more powerful your system the more powerful you can emulate
[11:26] <bliss1_> Warbo; iyou mean RAM or cpu power
[11:26] <xiaoyu> where is gnome's menu config file
[11:27] <Warbo> bliss1_: I think RAM more than CPU, as when I emulate things they report my actual CPU speed, but far less RAM than I have
[11:27] <mcnutcase> Is anyone else having trouble with Firefox as a result of the latest update?
[11:27] <Warbo> mcnutcase: Well I've only opened it once so far, but no
[11:28] <mcnutcase> Oh great, that means it's me personally it hates.
[11:28] <munti78> How do I find the location (full path) to php-cli?
[11:28] <Cicero_> munti78, locate php
[11:28] <teletubbie> finally got mixing working :)
[11:28] <bliss1_> Warbo what I have done thus far is followed a howto but I use 0.8.0  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66694
[11:29] <Warbo> AAA! Firefox doesn't load links which open it. just gives me a home page
[11:29] <davro> munti78: or, whereis php
[11:30] <cage> could anyone help me with a ndiswrapper problem ? i just made "make install" work but get following error
[11:30] <cage> Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build;
[11:30] <cage>   give the path to kernel build directory with
[11:30] <cage>   KBUILD=<path> argument to make
[11:30] <munti78> davro: Thanks, worked great
[11:31] <Warbo> bliss1_: That guide seems fine. That's how I built Qemu. The only problem is I can't get Kqemu to load automatically. I'll see what this guide says
[11:32] <bliss1_> Warbo: frogzoo has a script
[11:32] <Alth> Ok, so, to whoever told me I needed Samba for my windows box...one windows box is working fine. The other isn't. :\
[11:32] <bliss1_> gnomefreak;  hi,you are very welcome
[11:33] <lockhead> what should i use to watch .wmv and .mov in buntu?
[11:33] <_tyler> I need .aiz plugins to use on this karabra thing... how can i compress something like that?
[11:33] <Warbo> bliss1_: That networking is quite thorough. I always used the -user-net (now replaced with -net user)
[11:34] <lockhead> currently using vlc, wich with .wmv gives no picture, and with .mov no sound
[11:34] <mcnutcase> Gah. Even a complete removal hasn't fixed it, and everyone else is saying "WFM". This is not happymaking.
[11:34] <Warbo> lockhead: Usually whatever player you prefer. try getting w32codecs
[11:34] <Warbo> mcnutcase: Is this Firefox?
[11:35] <lockhead> ok, thanks
[11:35] <mcnutcase> Warbo: the package is Mozilla-Firefox. The new version is conflictiong with the "FireFox" package...
[11:35] <davro> just watched a .wmv using xine worked fine, not sure about .mov
[11:36] <Warbo> mcnutcase: I was just going to ask a Firefoxy question. When I click on a link in GAIM (which I'm in now) it opens Firefox, but just displays home page. Also the same happens when I type into deskbar-applet
[11:36] <mcnutcase> Warbo: I'd help, but right now Firefox is completely up the spout for me.
[11:36] <Warbo> !tell lockhead about restrictedformats
[11:37] <kgoetz> does ubotu not reply to msg atm? hes igoring me :S
[11:37] <Warbo> lockhead: Did that work?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: good morning
[11:37] <kgoetz> !tell kgoetz about printing
[11:37] <gnomefreak> !botsnack
[11:37] <ubotu> :)
[11:37] <kgoetz> hi gnomefreak
[11:37] <gnomefreak> hi kgoetz
[11:37] <Warbo> mcnutcase: This isn't a problem with the latest update, it's been happening before
[11:37] <gnomefreak> kgoetz: ubotuis fine
[11:37] <kgoetz> :)
[11:37] <kgoetz> hm.
[11:38] <kgoetz> hm. getting replies now.
[11:38] <kgoetz> i probably identified during that tiem :)
[11:38] <kgoetz> *time
[11:38] <mcnutcase> Warbo: any suggestions on how to get it working again? Right now, firefox won't even start...
[11:38] <lockhead> Warbo, working on it
[11:39] <Warbo> mcnutcase: Errrrrr...... Epiphany?
[11:39] <Warbo> lockhead: I actually meant did you get the link :)
[11:39] <cage> if anyone can help with a compile problem, i'm trying to compile ndiswrapper (don't want to flood this chan all the time) PM plz
[11:39] <Warbo> cage: www.pastebin.com
[11:39] <lockhead> yes i did, checking it out now
[11:39] <Hobbsee> cage: what's the error you get?  pastebin it
[11:39] <vinboy> how do I restart my X server without logging out??
[11:39] <Warbo> vinboy: You can't
[11:40] <Warbo> vinboy: that is the definition of restarting the X server
[11:40] <vinboy> Warbo: ok.. thx
[11:40] <agliv5> cage what problem are you having?
[11:40] <mcnutcase> Warbo: not quite what I asked for, but I'll give it a prod...
[11:40] <cage> make -C driver install
[11:40] <cage> make[1] : Entering directory `/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver'
[11:40] <cage> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver \
[11:40] <cage>         DRIVER_VERSION=1.14
[11:40] <cage> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[11:40] <cage> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found
[11:40] <cage> make[2] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[11:40] <kgoetz> ffs
[11:40] <cage> make[2] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386'
[11:40] <fyrestrtr> has anyone tried to compile wine from source?
[11:40] <cage>   LD      /home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver/built-in.o
[11:40] <cage>   CC [M]   /home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver/hal.o
[11:40] <cage> /bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found
[11:41] <cage> make[3] : *** [/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver/hal.o]  Error 127
[11:41] <Warbo> vinboy: If you want to keep a (non graphical) program running then you may be able to make it a daemon (if it has that option)
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> wtf
[11:41] <cage> make[2] : *** [_module_/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver]  Error 2
[11:41] <cage> make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386'
[11:41] <_tyler> I need .aiz plugins to use on this karabra thing... how can i compress something like that?
[11:41] <cage> make[1] : *** [default]  Error 2
[11:41] <cafuego> !ops
[11:41] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[11:41] <cage> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver'
[11:41] <cage> make: *** [install]  Error 2
[11:41] <Warbo> coge: www.pastebin.com just post us the URL
[11:41] <cage> oeps
[11:41] <Alth> Be right back. Rebooting.
[11:41] <cafuego> cage: Stop pasting
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> stop ffs
[11:41] <Warbo> cage: www.pastebin.com, just post us the URL
[11:41] <cafuego> When he comes back, can you tell him he doesn't need to compile ndsiwrapper?
[11:42] <_tyler> I need .aiz plugins to use on this karabra thing... how can i compress something like that?
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> guys, has anyone tried to compile wine? I am running into a gcc error -- /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext followed by collect2: ld returned 1 exit status and then winegcc: gcc failed.
[11:42] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: I comiled it from source ages ago. Took longer than Xorg and Linux put together
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: what version of gcc did you use?
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> maybe its choking because my gcc version is 4.0
[11:43] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: I think I was on gcc-3.2 or something back then (on Fedora 1 I think)
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> maybe I'll try it with an older gcc version
[11:43] <Warbo> tyler: What is this aiz extension?
[11:43] <alon> can i run the chessmaster software with wine?
[11:44] <fyrestrtr> alon: appdb.winehq.org -- search there
[11:44] <Warbo> alon: I don't know, why don't you have a go and tell WINE developers if it works
[11:45] <AlphaFaction> Hi guys, Ive just upgraded from a Geforce 4mx440 to a Geforce 6600GT and now gnome is not working as it should, any ideas?
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> what is the enviornment variable to change the gcc version?
[11:45] <Hobbsee> cage:  DO NOT PASTE IN HERE!  www.pastebin.com  you shouldnt need to compile ndiswrapper, but if you do, follow wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto and follow *all* of the steps.
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> temporarily change it :)
[11:45] <kgoetz> fyrestrtr, tryed 'sudo apt-get build-dep wine'?
[11:45] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: Is it logging in at least?
[11:45] <kgoetz> CC and GCC iirc
[11:45] <bliss1_> Warbo: -user-net (now replaced with -net user) is this in the howto?
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> kgoetz: hrmm, not I did the non-ubuntu thing and manually installed deps
[11:46] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: I always link /usr/bin/gcc to /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 anyway
[11:46] <kgoetz> ok.
[11:46] <AlphaFaction> Warbo: yeah it is, it gets to the desktop then hangs (well the cusor moves but the kb dies and i cant click on any icons)
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> kgoetz: because I need a version of wine that is not in the repos
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> AlphaFaction: first place to check -- Xorg.0.log
[11:46] <Warbo> bliss1_: It is not in that howto, because their method is better (but I was on my own when finding this out and -user-net was the easiest to set up, but no where near the best)
[11:47] <ahmeni> What package is startx in?
[11:47] <AlphaFaction> fyrestrtr: thanks mate
[11:47] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: I guess you're on nvidia driver (no point upgrading graphics card otherwise) Have you tried nv one? Does it have any problems?
[11:48] <AlphaFaction> Warbo: not yet, ill try that soon i think
[11:48] <bliss1_> Warbo; i have script somewhere but how to use it on bootup just a sec let me look
[11:48] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: It should work *but obviously you won't get your 3D stuff)
[11:49] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: Are you in Dapper by any chance? Lots of problems today
[11:49] <monstrous> someone knows if the beta-download of dapper drake is released yet?
[11:49] <Hobbsee> monstrous: not yet
[11:49] <monstrous> would it be placed here http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/ ?
[11:49] <monstrous> or somewhere else?
[11:49] <AlphaFaction> Warbo: nah im not
[11:50] <Hobbsee> monstrous: cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/somethingorother
[11:50] <Alth> My two damn computers can ping each other but won't network :(
[11:50] <bliss1_> Warbo: i will put it in a pastbin see if it works for you
[11:50] <budak^kampung> hi
[11:50] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: how do I (temporarily) enable the use of gcc-3.4? export GCC='/usr/bin/gcc-3.4' ?
[11:50] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: OK (they just upgraded to latest driver, few different directories needed 'cos of Xorg 7)
[11:50] <budak^kampung> anyone can help me?
[11:50] <monstrous> thx :)
[11:50] <budak^kampung> i want to know how to using wine
[11:50] <visik7> anyone is able to use debootstrp ?
[11:51] <AlphaFaction> Warbo: thanks heaps for all the help
[11:51] <budak^kampung> i have install wine
[11:51] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: Install the gcc-3.4 package and point the /usr/bin/gcc symbolic link to it (sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc)
[11:51] <budak^kampung> but i don't know how to install appllication like photoshop using wine
[11:52] <AlphaFaction> Warbo: im looking in the xorg log and ive got a few lines like this:" Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0"
[11:52] <Trentonzero> budak^kampung : run the install program in the terminal with "wine setup.exe"
[11:52] <Warbo> budak^kampung: I doubt PhotoShop will work ,but it might. You should be able to double click the ".exe" files, but it is better to use a terminal to see what's going on. Go in a terminal (in Accessories) and type "wine /full/path/to/Adobe/Photoshop/Installer.exe"
[11:52] <Trentonzero> ?
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> wheee ... look at all the ./configure output go by so fast.
[11:53] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: I think those are fine (I get stuff like that all the time)
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> ./me pets his 1 GB RAM
[11:54] <AlphaFaction> Warbo: how about "Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!"
[11:54] <Warbo> Does anyone know how to tell the kernel about WINE? In Fedora you can run ./setup.exe and it gets redirected to WINE (like Linux can now do with Java and stuff)
[11:54] <bliss1_> Warbo here it is
[11:55] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: That seems a little more serious. Are you using Ubuntu's package of the driver or the one from nvidia.com?
[11:55] <Warbo> bliss1_: Er. No link?
[11:55] <Hmmmm> im trying to configure an HP laserjet 8000 with my kubuntu installation. no joi. anyone been there done that?
[11:55] <AlphaFaction> Warbo: Im runing ubuntus package
[11:55] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: any clue what is this? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext ??
[11:55] <cage> http://pastebin.com/670986   sorry about the flood before
[11:56] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: Should be fine then. Don't understand the problem
[11:57] <budak^kampung> i want to install photoshop from cd
[11:57] <budak^kampung> . i have type wine /cdrom0/Adobe_Photoshop_v.6.0_Final_Retail/Setup.exe
[11:57] <budak^kampung> , but 'there is no such file or directory
[11:57] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: From the man page it is the "GNU linker", but I have no idea about programming, sorry :(
[11:57] <bliss1_> Warbo; http://pastebin.ca/50109 not sure how to put inplace so it happens on boot
[11:57] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: ah I think I got it.
[11:58] <budak^kampung> anybody knows?
[11:58] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Make sure you type it properly. If you type "ls /" you can see what is in / (remember, things are case sensitive) then "ls/cdrom0" will show you what is in there, if it exists. You may be better off with /media/cdrom though
[11:58] <Warbo> bliss1_: /etc/init.d make a file in there then run update-rc.d
[12:00] <Warbo> bliss1_: Thanks, I'll try it later
[12:00] <Trentonzero> budak^kampung, are the _ in the directory blank spaces are actual underscores
[12:00] <Trentonzero> ?
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: yeah, I was missing a developer library
[12:00] <budak^kampung> no
[12:01] <bliss1_> Warbo: so name the file kqemu put it in /etc/init.d then update-rc.d  kqemu ?does the script look ok?
[12:01] <davro> Im looking to buy a 20" LaCie 130702 TFT monitor just wondered if anyone is using a LaCie monitor with success
[12:01] <Trentonzero> the directory is "Adobe Photoshop" or "Adobe_Photoshop"?
[12:01] <fyrestrtr> budak^kampung: is your cdrom mounted?
[12:02] <budak^kampung> i don't know because i'm quite beginner
[12:02] <Warbo> bliss1_: Yes it looks fine (too complex for me to write on my own, but I can follow it)
[12:02] <budak^kampung> Trentonzero,there is no '_' in the cd directory
[12:02] <fyrestrtr> davro: monitors aren't a big problem, just get the refresh rates right and they pretty much work.
[12:03] <budak^kampung> the directory name is Adobe Photoshop V.6.0 Final Retail
[12:03] <Trentonzero> take out the _
[12:03] <bliss1_> Warbo: do you have to make the files an exe as in  chmod +x kqemu.sh
[12:03] <Warbo> budak^kampung: OK, I was assuming the directory would be easy to type. A better way would be this: type "cd /"
[12:03] <fyrestrtr> budak^kampung: wine "/cdrom0/Adobe Photoshop V.6.0 Final Retail/Setup.exe"
[12:03] <Warbo> bliss1_: I think so
[12:03] <Trentonzero> type :  wine " Adobe Photoshop V.6.0 Final Retail/setup.exe"
[12:04] <Trentonzero> or just go to the directory with cd ...thats good too
[12:04] <bliss1_> Warbo: it would be good to know for sure
[12:04] <budak^kampung> include " mark?
[12:04] <Trentonzero> yes, use the quote marks
[12:04] <fyrestrtr> budak^kampung: yes
[12:04] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Then type "cd thenextfolder" then "cd thenextfolder" until you are there. Finally just type "wine setup.exe"
[12:04] <davro> Fair enough, have been quite impressed with the LaCie range just wondered, suppose the driver support is at the graphic card level, slaps self across face.
[12:05] <fyrestrtr> davro: heh :) it happens.
[12:05] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Do you have the Universe packages enabled?
[12:05] <budak^kampung> universe package?
[12:05] <budak^kampung> how can i know?
[12:05] <budak^kampung> i'm sorry if my english broken
[12:05] <budak^kampung> hehehe
[12:06] <Trentonzero> its ok budak, you are coming across fine
[12:06] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Universe is a load of extra software for Ubuntu. There is a package called "nautilus-open-terminal" which will save you all of the typing
[12:07] <lapp> www.24freesex.com
[12:07] <davro> Not to worry most English people speak using broken english slang anyway.
[12:07] <budak^kampung> oo,how can i get the package?
[12:07] <budak^kampung> i'm malaysian
[12:07] <budak^kampung> anyone from malaysia?
[12:07] <cafuego> !universe
[12:07] <budak^kampung> :)
[12:07] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Go into System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager
[12:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:07] <budak^kampung> ok warbo.thene
[12:08] <budak^kampung> ok warbo.then
[12:08] <teletubbie> any know how to set a background for nautilus?
[12:08] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Inside there there is a menu Settings then Repositories
[12:08] <cafuego> note, please don't ask for help on how to install illegal copies of photoshop.
[12:08] <budak^kampung> ok,i got it warbo
[12:08] <budak^kampung> next?
[12:08] <Warbo> teletubbie: Desktop, right click on it. Windows, at the bottom of the Edit list (drag and drop)
[12:09] <davro> budak^kampung: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list read the comments and uncomment the relevent line.
[12:09] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Click Add (hang on while I catch up with you)
[12:09] <budak^kampung> ok
[12:09] <budak^kampung> next warbo
[12:09] <noiesmo> when I try to apt-get install nvidia-glx i'm am incountering a dpkg-divert from when I had ati card but i am unable to remove diversion is there a way to force install or modify the diversions file in /var/lib/dpkg without getting unexpected EOF
[12:09] <Warbo> budak^kampung: OK, it should say something to do with Ubuntu in a drop down box and then some boxes with ticks
[12:10] <budak^kampung> yes
[12:10] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Tick the boxes "Universe" and "Multiverse"
[12:10] <bliss1_> Warbo: did you find out exe or not
[12:10] <budak^kampung> ok
[12:10] <Alth> Hey, my windows box just mounted itself! =o
[12:10] <Warbo> bliss1_: Not yet sorry
[12:10] <budak^kampung> there is 4 boxes
[12:10] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Now you should have all of the boxes ticked.
[12:10] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Click OK
[12:11] <graypp> www.24freesex.com
[12:11] <budak^kampung> ok,
[12:11] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Then click OK again and you will get a message, say Yes
[12:11] <budak^kampung> gotcha!
[12:11] <femi> hey i downloaded xine to play mp3s but its not playing what can i do?
[12:11] <bliss1_> ompaul; tells bliss1_ to behave
[12:12] <budak^kampung> downloading progress
[12:12] <Warbo> budak^kampung: It should have downloaded some stuff. Now "Search" and put in "nautilus-open-terminal"
[12:12] <budak^kampung> The following problems were found on your system:
[12:12] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Wait till it finishes :)
[12:12] <budak^kampung> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[12:12] <budak^kampung> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://wine.sourceforge.net binary/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/wine.sourceforge.net_apt_binary_Packages)
[12:12] <fyrestrtr> !tell femi about RestrictedFormats
[12:12] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Oh, that's fine (you have them on already!)
[12:12] <budak^kampung> oo
[12:13] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Do the search for "nautilus-open-terminal"
[12:13] <budak^kampung> then,what must i do warbo
[12:13] <femi> what is it about restricted formats?
[12:13] <budak^kampung> where i can search nautilus open terminal?
[12:13] <fyrestrtr> femi: read it, to find out how to enable mp3 playback
[12:13] <femi> hi fyrestrtr
[12:13] <davro> mp3 is a restricted format
[12:13] <Warbo> budak^kampung: You should have 1 package come up in the search. Click the white box next to it and select "Mark for installation"
[12:13] <budak^kampung> is it inside synaptic package
[12:13] <Warbo> budak^kampung: In Synaptic there is a Search button at the top
[12:14] <budak^kampung> ok
[12:14] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Make sure to put the - in between the words
[12:14] <budak^kampung> got it
[12:14] <budak^kampung> thick the box?
[12:14] <noiesmo> anyone help with dpkg-divert problem
[12:14] <peopleee> www.erotica-toon.com
[12:15] <femi> pls does it mean ubuntu linux does not play mp3s?
[12:15] <Warbo> budak^kampung: So you have marked it (by clicking the white square and selecting mark for installation) then click Apply at the top
[12:15] <budak^kampung> ok,clear
[12:15] <Warbo> femi: Ubuntu will play MP3s, but not by default. You have to tell it to
[12:15] <newbie33> how to install glade
[12:15] <Warbo> budak^kampung: After clicking Apply you will get more downloading stuff. Wait for it to say complete
[12:15] <femi> how do i?
[12:16] <newbie33> when I m trying to do it with synaptic, my x goes down..
[12:16] <femi> am sorry am very new to ubuntu
[12:16] <budak^kampung> warbo:ok complete
[12:16] <Warbo> femi: Ask someone to walk you through anabling Universe
[12:16] <femi> can you, please?
[12:16] <Warbo> budak^kampung: OK, now in the file manager go into the CD and to where the installer is
[12:17] <Warbo> femi: In the middle of something at the mo. Only take a sec
[12:17] <budak^kampung> warbo:file manager?
[12:17] <alon> what is the problem if i get "internal failure - error number: 0x80040707" when i try to install chessmaster using yum?
[12:17] <alon> *using wine
[12:17] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Go in Places Computer and go into your CD all of the way to the Photoshop installer
[12:17] <davro> to enable the universe/multiverse, sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list read the comments and uncomment the relevent lines in this configuration file.
[12:18] <budak^kampung> warbo:ok,thene
[12:18] <budak^kampung> warbo:ok,then?
[12:18] <alon> what is the problem if i get "internal failure - error number: 0x80040707" when i try to install chessmaster using wine?
[12:18] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Now when you right click in an empty part of that window (basically, not on a file) then there will be an option "Open In Terminal" Is that there?
[12:18] <chetan> hi all. i have a external harddrive and i want to access one of the folders in there. but ubuntu says that i dont have permission to modify it. can someone please help?
[12:19] <Trentonzero> chetan, do it as root?  (not sure if this is best way)
[12:19] <Warbo> chetan: Be with you in a minute
[12:20] <chetan> thanks
[12:20] <budak^kampung> warbo:right click on setup.exe file?
[12:20] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Forget that, we need to do one more thing first
[12:20] <Warbo> budak^kampung: In a terminal type "killall nautilus" without the quotes
[12:20] <budak^kampung> warbo:ok
[12:20] <alon> what is the problem if i get "internal failure - error number: 0x80040707" when i try to install chessmaster using wine?
[12:21] <budak^kampung> i got problem with terminal,warbo
[12:21] <Alth> Ok, question.
[12:21] <budak^kampung> blank screen
[12:21] <Warbo> budak^kampung: You will lose your icons for a sec, then get a home folder window. Close it and go back to where you were on the CD (next to setup.exe)
[12:21] <Alth> I apt-get'd synergy.  I don't just type 'synergy'?
[12:21] <Alth> Because that works for everything else :P
[12:22] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Is it back yet? (We had to restart it when we added the new feature)
[12:22] <haloo> http://www.sexoasis.com/
[12:22] <budak^kampung> warbo:my terminal is not responding
[12:22] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Hmmm. Try opening another one
[12:23] <budak^kampung> warbo:can you wait for me to restart my pc
[12:23] <Warbo> budak^kampung: typing "killall gnome-terminal" kill close your terminals
[12:23] <Warbo> budak^kampung: You shouldn't really have to, but you can
[12:23] <newbie33> is version 5.04 very old?
[12:23] <Warbo> chetan: Ready?
[12:23] <chetan> yeah
[12:24] <Warbo> newbie33: The 05 is the year, the 04 is the month
[12:24] <chetan> Warbo: yeah
[12:24] <newbie33> is it posible to make global update/upgrade with one comand?
[12:24] <Warbo> chetan: OK. In a terminal (in accessories)  type "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[12:24] <kgoetz> h.m Warty EOL today
[12:25] <Warbo> newbie33: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:25] <Alth> No one's been able to help me with any of my questions so far >.>
[12:25] <chetan> Warbo: i get "(gedit:2174): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:25] <chetan> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:25] <chetan> " should i use just sudo instead
[12:26] <Warbo> chetan: Yes, try that (are you in admin group?)
[12:26] <iskywalker_> hi! has someone tomcat running i dont know how to get it working...
[12:26] <chetan> Warbo: i am the admin if thats what u mean
[12:26] <Warbo> chetan: If gedit comes up then you can ignore any messages
[12:26] <iskywalker_> can someone point me a ubuntu apache2 tomcat tutorial?
[12:27] <chetan> Warbo: got the gedit page
[12:27] <chetan> Warbo: i mean fstab
[12:27] <Alth> Darn it. I installed Synergy via apt-get. How do I execute it?  Anyone?
[12:27] <mustard5> iskywalker_, I don't know of any offhand
[12:27] <Warbo> chetan: OK. Copy one of the lines to the bottom (so you have an extra line to play about with)
[12:28] <iskywalker_> Ath: sudo synaptic?
[12:28] <iskywalker_> Alth:
[12:28] <chetan> Warbo: what do u mean? copy the file in a seperate place?
[12:28] <Warbo> iskywalker_: Synergy is a keyboard/mouse thing
[12:28] <iskywalker_> argh
[12:28] <iskywalker_> sorry misread
[12:28] <Alth> synergy: command not found.
[12:29] <Warbo> chetan: No. Select a line (of the actual conetnt, not the column headings) copy, then move to the bottom and paste
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> the command is synergyc
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> for a client
[12:29] <Warbo> content
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> read the docs for it please :)
[12:29] <`Theus`> Hi all
[12:29] <Alth> Thanks fyrestrtr :)
[12:29] <b0se> hi... just wondering, has anyone died trying to disable the bash system bell?
[12:30] <newbie33> how to change time showing from war time, to normal
[12:30] <Warbo> b0se: Many computers have been hammered
[12:30] <chetan> Warbo: what do i copy cause i have quite a few things in the file...hda2, hda5, hdc,hbc,fd0,hda1
[12:30] <Warbo> chetan: Just copy any. Let's say hda1 line. We are going to change it (BTW, is this just a Pen Drive?)
[12:30] <asx> http://www.videosz.com/index.php?link_id=1
[12:30] <b0se> Warbo, tell me the good news man... it is possible right?
[12:31] <Warbo> b0se: I honestly don't know
[12:31] <Warbo> n0se: should be
[12:31] <mustard5> newbie33, in gnome?
[12:31] <chetan> Warbo: its a buffalo external harddrive (250GB) its loading and everything i just dont have default write permissions for one of the folders
[12:31] <newbie33> mustard5,  solved thanks :)
[12:31] <mustard5> k
[12:32] <Warbo> chetan: OK that's even better. (I'm assuming you leave it in, 'cos this file gets run automatically at boot up)
[12:32] <stylewalka> hi folks, is there an possiblity with evolution to change a webcalendar ?
[12:32] <b0se> Warbo, i've been trying for hours... no success.. it's been driving me crazy beeping in the middle of lectures at uni
[12:32] <chetan> Warbo: yeah
[12:32] <Warbo> chetan: Right, so you have a new line full of hda1 and things.
[12:32] <chetan> Warbo: yeah
[12:33] <b0se> if anyone has actually managed to disable the system bell, pls tell me about it
[12:33] <Warbo> chetan: First change the hda1 to sda1 (I am assuming that it is the first partition on the disc, and that it is the first USB drive)
[12:33] <Warbo> chetan: Do you already have an sda1 line above?
[12:34] <budak^kampung> warbo:i'm back
[12:34] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Hey. I'm in the middle of 2 walk-throughs now :)
[12:34] <Warbo> budak^kampung: OK, go into your CD where the setup.exe is like before
[12:34] <budak^kampung> warbo:sorry,my PC is too slow
[12:34] <chetan> Warbo: no
[12:34] <budak^kampung> warbo:ok
[12:34] <budak^kampung> warbo:next
[12:35] <Warbo> chetan: No what? What drive is it (first USb, second USB, etc) what partition (by default first) and is there a line already?
[12:35] <chetan> b0se: system-sound preferences- unclick sounds for events
[12:35] <newbie33> what mail program is the most similar to ms outlook express?
[12:35] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Now if you right click (NOT on a file, in the empty space) you will have a menu and in that menu is "Open In Terminal"
[12:36] <budak^kampung> warbo:yes,there is open in terminal
[12:36] <bliss1_> Warbo: i think it needs to be an exe file pretty sure
[12:36] <chetan> Warbo: ahh not sure i think its either hda5 or hda2,
[12:36] <b0se> chetan, that works for X, but when i'm directly in a terminal, it still beeps like hell
[12:36] <Warbo> budak^kampung: OK, go on that and you are in a terminal in the right place. In that terminal type "wine setup.exe" and that is it. The rest is up to WINE
[12:36] <chetan> b0se-sorry dude thats the only way i know
[12:37] <Warbo> chetan: If it is USB then it is sd something
[12:37] <Warbo> chetan: Is it the only USB drive?
[12:37] <b0se> chetan, ok thanks anyway... maybe i can set a record for the longest time spent trying to disable it
[12:37] <chetan> Warbo: no i dont have any sd anywhere
[12:37] <budak^kampung> warbo:it works :)
[12:37] <chetan> Warbo: yeah
[12:38] <Warbo> b0se: I once started an infinite loop calling on the beeper, even closing the terminal didn't stop it!
[12:38] <Warbo> chetan: Right, so it is sda, and I will assume that it is the only partition.
[12:39] <Warbo> chetan: Back to the file: Change the hda1 in the new line to sda1.
[12:39] <chetan> Warbo: yeah its just one 250Gb partition in the external harddrive
[12:39] <b0se> Warbo, damn that sounds terrible..
[12:39] <levander> I'm almost positive I installed the gnome-bin package for something I no longer want, but gnome-bin sounds like a dangerous one to remove.  Anybody know for sure if it's okay?
[12:39] <chetan> Warbo: yep
[12:39] <Warbo> chetan: Do you know if it is FAT32? "Can you open it in Windows?)
[12:39] <chetan> yeah its fat32
[12:39] <chetan> Warbo: yeah its fat32
[12:39] <chetan> Warbo: i can get it in windows as well
[12:40] <Warbo> chetan: OK. In type replace what is on that line (probably ext3 or maybe NTFS if you are dual booting) with vfat
[12:40] <teletubbie> how do you configure what port gnome bt client to use?
[12:41] <chetan> Warbo: yep
[12:41] <chetan> Warbo: dont i need to do a mkdir and everything to sent a mount point
[12:41] <Warbo> chetan: In mount point you can put whatever you want (this is where you will access the files, you can even putit somewhere in your home [but NOT directly your home folder] )
[12:42] <Warbo> chetan: Yes, if the mount point doesn't exist you can mkdir it now (as root if youdon'tt have permission)
[12:42] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Are you OK now?
[12:43] <Warbo> Hmm. That's rude
[12:43] <budak^kampung> warbo:yes warbo.Now installing progress :)
[12:43] <Warbo> budak^kampung: OK, just making sure :)
[12:43] <budak^kampung> warbo: I appreciate ur concern :)
[12:44] <Warbo> budak^kampung: no problem
[12:44] <Warbo> since chetan has skarpered
[12:44] <budak^kampung> warbo:now 86%
[12:44] <newbie33> what ftp manager to use?
[12:44] <Warbo> budak^kampung: I'm suprised it's working. WINE has got a lot better recently
[12:44] <diego> yeaaaaaaaaa
[12:45] <Warbo> newbie33: gftp maybe?
[12:45] <chetan> Warbo: sorry my internet is buggy
[12:45] <newbie33> ok ill try
[12:45] <Warbo> chetan: Hello
[12:45] <chetan> Warbo: yep
[12:45] <chetan> Warbo: sorry about that...did what u said
[12:45] <Warbo> chetan: OK, you have a mountpoint (which exists) then the options (the important bit)
[12:46] <chetan> Warbo: yep
[12:46] <Warbo> chetan: You will probably want to put (in this order) defaults,users,uid=yourusername,exec,rw exactly like that
[12:46] <levander> Could somehow who hasn't built much, but does run gnome, see if they have the gnome-bin package installed?
[12:46] <budak^kampung> warbo:i had problem with that CD.  WINE is nowhere near perfect (like I said, I was suprised)
[12:47] <chetan> Warbo: i was just wondering i already have a folder called HD-HBU2 which i am currently using to access my files from the external drive can i just add the mount point as that
[12:47] <bliss1_> hi
[12:47] <budak^kampung> warbo:OK, finish
[12:48] <aLeSD> I changed my graphic card on my machine... and now X can't start. How could I reconfigure it ?
[12:48] <levander> nobody who's running gnome can check to see if they have the gnome-bin package installed??
[12:48] <b0se> omg i suceeded! the last 3+ hours have not been wasted
[12:48] <Warbo> chetan: I wouldn't recommend putting a permanent mount (one in fstab) in /media. I would use /mnt instead, but you can put it anywhere
[12:48] <b0se> for anyone who wants to disable system bell
[12:48] <bliss1_> Wardo; can you give me that update command for kqemu the full command line please
[12:48] <budak^kampung> warbo:if i want to use photoshop, just type wine photoshop.exe?
[12:48] <stephen_banks> levander: nope, i dont have it
[12:48] <b0se> there is an option in /etc/inputrc
[12:48] <gnomefreak> levander: what version of ubuntu?
[12:48] <levander> gnomefreak: breezy
[12:48] <Warbo> bliss1_: You meanthe boot one?
[12:48] <geniusvicks> My laptop runs WIN XP. It has a DVD rom, how do I access that with my Ubuntu desktop?
[12:48] <Merphy> hi
[12:48] <levander> stephen_banks: you're running breezy and GNOME?
[12:48] <chetan> Warbo: so i should create a folder in mnt?
[12:49] <stephen_banks> levander: ah, im on dapper
[12:49] <bliss1_> Warbo; yep
[12:49] <levander> gnomefreak: what version you on?
[12:49] <Merphy> wana heelp on ldap
[12:49] <teletubbie> why can't I install azureus through apt-get?
[12:49] <teletubbie> !azureus
[12:49] <ubotu> it has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[12:49] <levander> stephen_banks: thanks for checking
[12:49] <stephen_banks> levander: no problem
[12:49] <gnomefreak> levander: no its not installed by default but its in universe repo
[12:49] <gnomefreak> levander: im on dapper
[12:49] <levander> gnomefreak: i'm going for it, i'm removing it...
[12:49] <budak^kampung> warbo: how i can use photoshop?
[12:50] <Warbo> budak^kampung: If it has installed properly. But WINE has it's own "fake" windows drive. If you go into your Home folder and turn on Hidden Files (in View) then go in .wine, then drive_c, then Program Files, Adobe, it's in there (use the "open in terminal" trick once you are in there
[12:50] <stephen_banks> teletubbie: its a java app, you'll need to install all the other java stuff to get it working
[12:50] <budak^kampung> warbo:what the command?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> teletubbie: azureus is a non-free app
[12:50] <teletubbie> I thought it was a free app
[12:50] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: its free.
[12:50] <Warbo> chetan: I would
[12:50] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: i can prove it
[12:50] <Warbo> chetan: (sorry, writing a long reply)
[12:50] <gnomefreak> iirc azureus is only free as in free beer
[12:50] <gnomefreak> its still under javas licencing
[12:51] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Are you in there?
[12:51] <CarNagE> aLeSD: Go to a tty and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure your xorg
[12:51] <geniusvicks> My laptop runs WIN XP. It has a DVD rom, how do I access that with my Ubuntu desktop?
[12:51] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php
[12:51] <ompaul> !ntfs
[12:51] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:51] <aLeSD> CarNagE: thanks
[12:51] <ompaul> geniusvicks, ^^^
[12:51] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: click on the source link
[12:51] <budak^kampung> warbo:there is no drive c
[12:51] <teletubbie> I got dependencies problem :\
[12:52] <chetan> Warbo: no problem. so i use " defaults,users,uid=yourusername,exec,rw" instead of "vfat    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0"
[12:52] <Warbo> budak^kampung: In .wine? There should be (has an underscore in it) What is in there?
[12:52] <geniusvicks> ompaul: what?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: that doesnt say anything about the licence
[12:52] <Jokaba> http://www.gene-juice.com/galleries/060323/ggw1/index16.html
[12:52] <bliss1_> Wardo: its update-rc.d something
[12:52] <budak^kampung> warbo:got it
[12:52] <ompaul> geniusvicks, ubotu from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions   (the ^^ is look up a line or three :-))
[12:52] <Warbo> chetan: Keep the 2 0s at the end (and put your own username in there!)
[12:53] <agliv5> Greetings all :)   Is it possible to create an extra partition only for Ubuntu programms ie have OpenOffice and co installed on a seperate partition?
[12:53] <budak^kampung> warbo:there is photoshop.exe
[12:53] <budak^kampung> how i can run it?
[12:53] <chetan> Warbo: lol yeah did that
[12:53] <Warbo> agliv5: Maybe /usr or even better /usr/local (though would need some tweaking of packages)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> iirc azureus falls under java's licencing and that would make it _non-free_
[12:53] <ompaul> agliv5, they live in / you can have /usr /usr/local /usr/localbin but that is just easier to have /
[12:54] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Use the Open In Terminal like before and type "wine photoshop.exe"
[12:54] <budak^kampung> warbo:wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\photoshop.exe": Module not found
[12:54] <budak^kampung> syahir@ubuntu:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Adobe/Photoshop 6.0$
[12:54] <Warbo> chetan: OK. Save the file and you should be OK. First thing you do after exiting Gedit is "sudo umount /dev/sda1" then "sudo mount -a" andthen look in /mnt
[12:55] <bliss1_> Wardo /
[12:55] <CarNagE> Wardo: Thanks for your recommendation for fluxbox, it works great here!
[12:55] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Sorry, sounds like PhotoShop doesn't like WINE
[12:55] <chetan> Warbo: yeah its in the mnt folder now
[12:55] <Warbo> CarNagE: Oh helping feels good
[12:55] <newbie33> is such program, that would start and run windows exe files, somthing like emulator :)
[12:56] <CarNagE> Hehe :)
[12:56] <newbie33> ?
[12:56] <chetan> Warbo: but i still dont have default write permission
[12:56] <Warbo> newbie33: WINE. Read what I was telling budak^kampung
[12:56] <alberto> hola
[12:56] <Warbo> chetan: ?
[12:56] <alberto> "hello"
[12:56] <bliss1_> Wardo: the command line for he update?
[12:56] <budak^kampung> warbo:the file not photoshop.exe but photoshp.exe
[12:56] <chetan> Warbo: 2 of the folders in there dont allow me to modify it from the folder menu
[12:56] <Warbo> chetan: Surely, with that option you should
[12:57] <alberto> I,m spanish
[12:57] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Oh, sorry. Does it work with the right spelling?
[12:57] <Warbo> !es
[12:57] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:57] <chetan> Warbo: nah it still has the those little lock signs in the bottom left corner of the folder
[12:57] <alberto> ?
[12:57] <budak^kampung> warbo:nothing happen
[12:57] <agliv5> Warbo so it is posible, but I'd have to tweek things a bit?
[12:57] <ompaul> agliv5, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12594
[12:57] <chetan> Warbo: everytime i try to move something it does allow me
[12:57] <Warbo> chetan: Hmmmm. Try running mount with no options. Give me the line with sda1 in it
[12:58] <budak^kampung> warbo:mybe my PC is running too slow
[12:58] <kbrooks> ATTN
[12:58] <kbrooks> AZ is indeed licensed under the GPL:
[12:58] <bliss1_> Warbo; ok i am going now
[12:58] <geniusvicks> ompaul: no u have misunderstood. I have a desktop computer running Ubuntu and a Laptop running windows XP, in my desktop pc I want to use the DVD drive in my Laptop
[12:58] <chetan> Warbo: /dev/sda1       /media/Share  vfat    defaults,users,uid=chetan,exec,rw 0       0
[12:58] <Warbo> budak^kampung: It should at least tell you if it goes wrong
[12:58] <budak^kampung> warbo:If i want to install other programme,should i follow the same step?
[12:58] <kbrooks> AZ is indeed licensed under the GPL: http://sourceforge.net/projects/azureus'
[12:58] <kbrooks> AZ is indeed licensed under the GPL: http://sourceforge.net/projects/azureus

[12:59] <budak^kampung> warbo: It doesn't say anything.hehehe :)
[12:59] <ompaul> kbrooks, stop, and the java it needs is not always that way - bottom line your attn was ot
[12:59] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Yes. Go to where they are, use Open In Terminal then run their installer (like setup.exe) andthey will install in the Program Files folder somewhere
[12:59] <kbrooks> ompaul: er?
[12:59] <budak^kampung> warbo: Thanks a lot
[01:00] <kbrooks> ompaul: so azureus is nonfree?
[01:00] <agliv5> thanks for the link ompaul I get back with you when it comes time to repartition my HD ;)
[01:00] <Warbo> chetan: Hang on
[01:00] <budak^kampung> warbo: I must leave to perform pray
[01:00] <Warbo> budak^kampung: See you. Good luck with your programs and stuff :)
[01:00] <budak^kampung> warbo:can u give ur email ,that i can contact if i got problem?
[01:00] <Alth> DON'T DO IT WARBO! =O
[01:00] <ompaul> kbrooks, that is not what I said - what I am saying is that not all java implementations of java are free, and if it works with blackdown fine if not then you have something free dpending on non free this is for offtopic
[01:00] <Alth> :P
[01:02] <geniusvicks> I have a desktop computer running Ubuntu and a Laptop running windows XP, in my desktop pc I want to use the DVD drive in my Laptop by creating a network or something of that kind
[01:02] <ompaul> geniusvicks, don't think so
[01:02] <budak^kampung> warbo: if i want to uninstall it, how can i do?
[01:02] <ompaul> geniusvicks, please don't repeat that for 10/15 minutes people will take time talking to you _if_ they have an answer
[01:02] <gnomefreak> i could have sworn java made azureus but they dont make it some 3rd party makes it
[01:02] <Warbo> budak^kampung: It should have it's own uninstall program. Run it in WINE (just like on Windows).   Sounds like a quick step to herpes
[01:04] <stuck> Can anyone here answer a quick Q?
[01:04] <Hobbsee> !+ask
[01:04] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[01:04] <Alth> Try us, stuck :)
[01:04] <stuck> What mode is Q?
[01:04] <ahmeni> +q is owner, i think
[01:04] <Warbo> chetan: Hmmm. Having problems with findong the options
[01:04] <Alth> Yeah. ~. Owner.
[01:05] <stuck> MY channel mode came +Q
[01:05] <kbrooks> stuck:
[01:05] <kbrooks> ahmeni:
[01:05] <kbrooks> +q on this network is a silence
[01:05] <kbrooks> +Q doesnt exist on here
[01:05] <ahmeni> ahh, neat
[01:05] <stuck> hrmm
[01:05] <kbrooks> case matters
[01:06] <stuck> thats odd, my channel is +Q
[01:06] <chetan> Warbo: i original copied the files from a windows system. does that affect it in anyway (i dont think it shoudl cause i copied another buch of files from another windows computer and i can modify those without any problem)
[01:06] <stuck> I guess i can -Q it
[01:07] <Warbo> chetan: I don't think so (what are the permissions on the files? Really they should be owned by you not root)
[01:07] <rob> hopefully, for a while..
[01:07] <Vazx> www.naughty-xxx-porn-girls.com www.24freesex.com http://www.videosz.com/index.php?link_id=1 http://www.gene-juice.com/galleries/060323/ggw1/index16.html http://www.al4a.com/links.html http://www.japxxx.com/unhun150/index.html
[01:07] <Warbo> rob: yay
[01:07] <stuck> you guys still having problems i see
[01:07] <chetan> Warbo: it says in the permission options "File Owner - chetan" File Group-chetan
[01:07] <Warbo> stuck: maybe
[01:08] <rob> they are getting smart
[01:08] <Warbo> chetan: Then you chould be able to do what you want with them
[01:08] <gnomefreak> are they bots or just users spamming?
[01:08] <chetan> Warbo: everytime i try to move anything in it says "You do not have permissions to write to this folder."
[01:08] <gnomefreak> users = pretty much never stop them unless ban set
[01:08] <rob> spambots :)
[01:08] <ompaul> BearPerson, :-)
[01:09] <ompaul> BearPerson, +?
[01:09] <Warbo> chetan: Check the permissionon that folder: does it have write and execute enabled?
[01:09] <ompaul> what do you think?
[01:09] <BearPerson> ompaul, hmm?
[01:09] <Warbo> chetan: Maybe "sudo chown chetan /media/Share"
[01:09] <chetan> Warbo: lol i am soo stupid it didnt have write enabled
[01:09] <BearPerson> I can't think much except "I can't swap out all the time" right now ;-)
[01:09] <ompaul> BearPerson, +r on the channel? would it work?
[01:09] <chetan> Warbo: yeah it works now thanks heaps :D
[01:10] <Warbo> chetan: You're welcome
[01:10] <Warbo> Maybe I go out now like I was going to 3 hours ago
[01:11] <BearPerson> ompaul, no, unfortunately
[01:11] <Warbo> bliss1_: Still want that script (sorry I forgot)
[01:11] <ompaul> BearPerson, okay, thanks actually I see it now
[01:11] <bliss1_> Warbo: i gave you the script
[01:11] <Warbo> bliss1_: But then asked for it
[01:12] <bliss1_> Warbo: i need the line update
[01:12] <munzir> Hi, I have 3 pc's behind a router. two linux and one windows. the router automagically made nat rules like
[01:12] <Warbo> ?
[01:12] <munzir> Idx Type Interface       Outside Address                Inside Address                 Use
[01:12] <munzir>   1 NAPT Internet        <IP_ADDRESS>:51978             <IP_ADDRESS>:3142             1
[01:12] <munzir> where that internal ip is the windows one. Why those nat rules are set to windows only?
[01:12] <Seveas> rob, why did you set +r? the bots identify themselves...
[01:12] <rob> Seveas, not all of them do
[01:12] <Seveas> ah
[01:12] <Seveas> we prefer to have +r only when needed, not all the time
[01:13] <Warbo> munzir: One machine at a time lets you have better control
[01:13] <Seveas> (and definitely not while the +f channel is on +i)
[01:13] <bliss1_> Warbo; its update-rc.d somethong/
[01:14] <munzir> Warbo: yes the question is which machine is choosen by default? I didn't made those rules
[01:14] <Warbo> bliss1_: Oh THAT'S what you meant.
[01:14] <Warbo> munzir: I wouldn't know the set up for your router sorry
[01:14] <Warbo> bliss1_: update-rc.d nameoffileininit.d defaults
[01:15] <Sareq> http://movies.easy-dater.com/galleries/01/278/index.html  http://www.worldsex.com/ http://jizz.juggcrew.com/198/?t=3&nats=MjQ3OjY6MTQ
[01:15] <Warbo> Grrrrr...
[01:15] <Warbo> Are they all just waking up or something?
[01:15] <bliss1_> Warbo: ok so update-rc.d kqemu.sh defaults
[01:15] <harrisj> Has anyone got a gnome menu with curves?
[01:16] <Warbo> bliss1_: Should be (need sudo first though)
[01:16] <munzir> Warbo: do you have any idea how can i figure out what those ports are used for?
[01:17] <notjosh> is there some kind of init script for svnserve in /etc/init.d/ or some such?
[01:17] <Warbo> munzir: Erm. Maybe. Netcat I think
[01:18] <Warbo> bliss1_: Did it run?
[01:18] <ahmeni> munzir: check /etc/services, lots of common ports in there
[01:19] <notjosh> is there some kind of init script for svnserve in /etc/init.d/ or some such?
[01:19] <bliss1_> Wardo; yep from rc0.d to rc5.d
[01:19] <lilo> working on a patch to services
[01:20] <munzir> ahmeni: no they are not :(
[01:20] <lilo> ah, different thing
[01:20] <lilo> though one of the patches will probably cover it
[01:21] <Seveas> sex
[01:21] <Ubugtu> Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
[01:21] <Seveas> Ubugtu, broken piece of crap
[01:21] <rob> i didn't think it was working :)
[01:21] <bungle> !vnc
[01:21] <ubotu> hmm... vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> hrmm, why is it that even though I have direct rendinging On, wine complains about missing opengl?
[01:21] <ahmeni> blah.. I hate not being able to pick between kde and gnome
[01:22] <Seveas> @reload exploitban
[01:22] <Seveas> porn
[01:22] <rob> nice one
[01:22] <Seveas> BEWARE OF THA BOT!
[01:22] <_jason> hey there is a valid package with por n in the title
[01:22] <ompaul> notjosh, first off, please don't repast so much, second when people have answers they answer :-) this may help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SubVersion
[01:22] <pepsi> hi there
[01:23] <pepsi> oh
[01:23] <notjosh> oh, sorry :/ i saw the topic about registering and realised i hadn't registered.. :/
[01:23] <ompaul> Seveas, congrats
[01:23] <Seveas> _jason, true, but since ther are quite a few pr0nspammers today, I prefer false positives
[01:23] <notjosh> so i did, then pasted.. my bad :/
[01:23] <Warbo> pepsi: hi
[01:23] <_jason> Seveas: maybe you can make sure se.x/por.n is preceded by http/www?
[01:24] <ompaul> _jason, for one word that is used once every 100 days ...
[01:24] <Seveas> good call
[01:24] <Seveas> @reload exploitban
[01:24] <Seveas> ompaul, pornview is a damn good imageviewer
[01:24] <ompaul> hehe
[01:25] <pax> erm .. brilliant! I just made an alias porn='sudo apt-get upgarde' :-0
[01:25] <Warbo> what happens ti IP address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx?
[01:25] <rambo3> make ig update && upgrade
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Seveas: what word did you say to get kicked? was it p.o.r.n?
[01:26] <Seveas> gnomefreak, no, I said "ubugtu is a freak" ;)
[01:27] <gnomefreak> oh
[01:27] <ompaul> Seveas, I was about to
[01:27] <pax> good call.
[01:28] <ompaul> your just toooooo fast
[01:28] <pax> he's darn fast when he wants to.
[01:28] <Seveas> *KILL SPREE*
[01:28] <pax> yano you're toooo lazy when you make .bash_aliases :-)
[01:29] <notjosh> hmmm, any idea how i can get svnserve (not libapache2-svn) running on system startup?
[01:30] <ompaul>  notjosh is the information not here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SubVersion (not that I looked :-))
[01:31] <nathanj> what do i need to do to amek nvidia work if i change my kernel?>
[01:31] <notjosh> nope, it just says how to execute the command yourself from commandline
[01:31] <notjosh> buuut, that would run the app as me, not as the user i want it to run as
[01:31] <Warbo> nathanj: Depends how you made it. If you used normal ubuntu packages it should still work
[01:31] <notjosh> which breaks all sorts of permissions
[01:32] <nathanj> Warbo: i used kernel-images-686
[01:32] <Warbo> nathanj: Is your nvidia installed using the nvidia-glx package and things?
[01:33] <nathanj> Warbo: yeah
[01:33] <mustard5> nathanj, the only issue you need to look out for is that the linux-restricted-modules (for the new kernel version) are loaded with the new kernel
[01:33] <nathanj> Warbo: but some reason after the reboot it whinged it could find the nvidia driver
[01:33] <Warbo> nathanj: Then when it installs the newer kernel it should build the nvidia module for it as well
[01:33] <nathanj> mustard5: ahhh
[01:33] <mustard5> nathanj, normally thats pretty automatic
[01:34] <mustard5> nathanj, if you use the linux kernel metapackage to install
[01:34] <Warbo> nathanj: Maybe try installing the linux-restricted-modules-(new kernel)
[01:34] <cafuego> Warbo: Only if the linux-restricted-modules-$ARCH package is installed.
[01:34] <Bizzy> hey, how do i enable universe now?
[01:34] <mustard5> !repos
[01:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:34] <bliss1_> hi
[01:35] <mustard5> hey bliss1_
[01:35] <bliss1_> Wardo: theres a new kqemu
[01:35] <bliss1_> mustard5: hi how are things
[01:35] <mustard5> bliss1_, not too bad..took a few panadol for a headache and now I'm fine ;)
[01:36] <Warbo> bliss1_: Well unless it's loads better I'm fine
[01:36] <Warbo> bliss1_: and it's a b
[01:36] <sfar> will anything break if i install firefox 1.0.8 (so i can get rid of the update notifyiing thing) when i already have firefox 1.5 installed?
[01:36] <tupac> ubuntu-fr
[01:37] <P> hdhd
[01:37] <mustard5> sfar, hard to say definitively :)
[01:37] <P> quit
[01:37] <mustard5> sfar, depends how firefox 1.5 was installed
[01:37] <bliss1_> Wardi it seems to make no diffrence with mu boot up the kernel mesage is same as before localhost kernel [4294694.763000]  KQEMU installed, max_instances=4 max_locked_mem=88856kB.
[01:37] <sfar> i followed the guide, mustard5
[01:37] <sfar> so 1.0.7 is still installed
[01:37] <mustard5> sfar, I would assume they are two separate installations
[01:38] <mustard5> sfar, but don't quote me on that ;)
[01:38] <Warbo> bliss1_: It's a b and and o. I can't really be bothered to rebuild it if there is no huge performance increase
[01:38] <mustard5> sfar, you might have to check what changes are made to your default browser settings afterwards I suppose
[01:38] <sfar> hm, ill try :>
[01:38] <sfar> cant go THAT bad
[01:39] <Warbo> sfar: You say that now...
[01:39] <mustard5> sfar, heheh..well...I dont' know about that :)
[01:39] <bliss1_> Warbo; i just followed the howto
[01:39] <kbrooks> !ff1.5
[01:39] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:40] <newbie33> is it posible to run install CD as repairer to reconfig everything?
[01:40] <mustard5> sfar, it might be easier to pin the version of firefox to 1.0.7 in synaptic
[01:40] <newbie33> if loging to system isnt posible
[01:40] <sfar> now you tell me
[01:40] <sfar> :)
[01:40] <mustard5> sfar, :)
[01:40] <mustard5> sfar, well since its just he 'update thingy' thats annoying you :)
[01:40] <bliss1_> Warbo: the kernel message i posted did you see it
[01:40] <Warbo> newbie33: I would say you could force install all of the packages from disc, but I don't know if you can do it running FROM the disc
[01:41] <sfar> well, seems like it worked.. 1.5 starts when i run "firefox"
[01:41] <Warbo> bliss1_: Yes
[01:41] <newbie33> Warbo, how to reconfigure it from console?
[01:41] <newbie33> I mean X if it would be broken
[01:41] <bliss1_> Warbo; whats mem=88856kb mean?
[01:42] <khamael> what is the chmod number for read/write/execute for just the owner?
[01:42] <digen> khamael, chmod 700
[01:42] <newbie33> khamael, 700
[01:42] <Warbo> newbie33: I would say that going in pool and using "sudo dpkg --force-all -i */*/*.deb" would work, but would be a very silly thing to do. And I don't know ifit would work from the install disc
[01:43] <Warbo> bliss1_: I don't know. The RAM given to QEmu?
[01:44] <imperfect-> I'm running dapper and I'm having some apt issues.. is there an easy solution for apt problems?
[01:44] <Bizzy> ahh
[01:44] <Bizzy> ty
[01:44] <khamael> digen and newbie33: thanks
[01:44] <digen> khamael, np
[01:44] <Bizzy> can i replace the gnome de with xfce4?
[01:45] <lflashl> wht a gd fiewall for linux
[01:45] <AAA> Bizzy  sure, just install xfce4 and on the login screen just choose xfce4
[01:45] <_jason> !firewall
[01:45] <Bizzy> can i set it as default?
[01:45] <sfar> yes Bizzy
[01:45] <sfar> i think it will ask you when you log in
[01:45] <AAA> lflashl  http://smoothwall.org/get/
[01:46] <_jason> lflashl: buntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic. :)
[01:46] <AAA> Bizzy  yeah, it'll ask if you want it to be the default when you choose it
[01:46] <Bizzy> im just doin a full update + universe update
[01:46] <imperfect-> Anyone know why dapper seems to require the brail stuff?
[01:46] <graveson> how do i disabl dao ?
[01:46] <sfar> Bizzy: download xubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <lflashl> whats the apt-get name for firestater
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > hmmz
[01:46] <_jason> lflashl: firestarter
[01:46] <gnomefreak> lflashl: apt-get install firestarter
[01:46] <AAA> lflashl  apt-cache search fire
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > gnome's autocompletion is pretty anoying default
[01:47] <[Wiebel] > if i type a path for example
[01:47] <AAA> [Wiebel]   that is bash completion
[01:47] <Warbo> AAA: Don't discriminate against guarddog
[01:47] <[Wiebel] > i type /ho , it complets to /home and set the cursor behind the e
[01:47] <[Wiebel] > so if i type /home
[01:47] <[Wiebel] > i get /homeme
[01:47] <[Wiebel] > but it doesnt do this always
[01:48] <[Wiebel] > somtimes it just select the remaining tekst
[01:48] <[Wiebel] > (as it should)
[01:48] <[Wiebel] > so if someone knows a good way for fixing this... :)
[01:48] <gnomefreak> [Wiebel] : use ~/ instead of /ho
[01:48] <[Wiebel] > gnomefreak: that's not the issue
[01:48] <[Wiebel] > it does that with everything
[01:48] <newbie33> I have finished apt-get dist-upgrade on 5.04 what posible problems after reboot
[01:49] <AAA> newbie33  only one way to find out =p
[01:49] <imperfect-> [Wiebel]  : I'm guessing you just need to get used to completetion... cuz from what you're saying it's working as it should..
[01:49] <newbie33> :/
[01:49] <[Wiebel] > imperfect-: no
[01:49] <[Wiebel] > it should do:
[01:49] <[Wiebel] > typeing /ho ; add me and select it and leave the curser where it is
[01:50] <[Wiebel] > s/type/typ/
[01:50] <kbrooks> !ff1.5
[01:50] <_jason> [Wiebel] : that doesn't seem to happen here... /ho gives me /home but me is highlighted so I type over if I want to or press tab to complete as is and go to the end
[01:50] <gnomefreak> newbie33: from 5.04-5.10?
[01:50] <sfar> [Wiebel] : doesn't happen here either
[01:50] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:50] <[Wiebel] > jarlev: that what it should do, sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt
[01:50] <AAA> newbie33  chances are you will be fine, did it install a new kernel as well? that would _may_ cause something not to work if you changed anything in your running kernel that the new one knows not about
[01:50] <newbie33> gnomefreak,  dont know in to what version just typed apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:50] <[Wiebel] > er
[01:50] <[Wiebel] > er
[01:50] <_jason> [Wiebel] : when doesn't it?
[01:50] <[Wiebel] > _jason: hat what it should do, sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt
[01:50] <gnomefreak> newbie33: was the upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[01:51] <[Wiebel] > _jason: work like it should
[01:51] <newbie33> hoary
[01:51] <gnomefreak> newbie33: did you change sources list?
[01:51] <[Wiebel] > i tested with a new user
[01:51] <[Wiebel] > same issue
[01:51] <newbie33> no
[01:51] <lflashl> i have a AMD 2200+ CPu so should i be using the 586 kernel?
[01:51] <_jason> [Wiebel] : what program?
[01:51] <OlliK> hi, all
[01:51] <[Wiebel] > _jason: gnome
[01:51] <gnomefreak> newbie33: than nothing will happen because you didnt change ubuntu versions
[01:51] <AAA> [Wiebel]   search around google, I have never tried to change such a thing
[01:51] <[Wiebel] > _jason: all gnome programs
[01:51] <sfar> sure you not got a folder named homeme ? :)
[01:51] <sfar> or a file
[01:52] <newbie33> hmz
[01:52] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[01:52] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, totally, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[01:52] <_jason> [Wiebel] : in all honesty, that's never happened to me... are you using breezy?
[01:52] <Belboz99> Hey all, I'm having problem with the expr command in my bash scripts
[01:52] <gnomefreak> newbie33: follow the wiki for breezy upgrade
[01:52] <newbie33> ok later
[01:52] <Belboz99> TTIMEDAYS=`expr $TTIME / 60.0 / 60.0 / 24.0` gives an error
[01:53] <Belboz99> expr: non-numeric argument is the error
[01:53] <[Wiebel] > _jason: breezy and dapper
[01:53] <[Wiebel] > both give me the same issue :/
[01:53] <Warbo> Belboz99: Is TTIME already set?
[01:53] <AAA> Belboz99  double quotes? not sure
[01:53] <[Wiebel] > _jason: i can't really pinpoint it
[01:53] <Belboz99> Warbro, yeah
[01:53] <[Wiebel] > that's the anoying thing
[01:53] <_jason> [Wiebel] : if that's happening, it sounds like a bug.  Can you figure out some sort of steps that lets you replciate it always?
[01:54] <[Wiebel] > _jason: not really :/
[01:54] <[Wiebel] > it random
[01:54] <Belboz99> the same command runs fine if I use Integer values
[01:54] <Bizzeh> woo, finaly got a SMP kernel runing under vmware
[01:54] <Sp4rKy> when i do "dpkg-reconfigure usplash", i've the error "can't load dm_mod"
[01:54] <imperfect-> You're not accessing it via a ssh session or something right?
[01:54] <Belboz99> but of course my answer is way off :P
[01:54] <Sp4rKy> any idea ?
[01:54] <imperfect-> This couldn't be a terminal issue?
[01:55] <AAA> Sp4rKy  sudo modprobe dm_mod ?
[01:55] <Sp4rKy> AAA no module found
[01:55] <Warbo> Belboz99: Hmmmm. I get same problem with `echo $(($TTIME/60.0/60.0/25.0))`
[01:56] <AAA> Sp4rKy  sounds like that is your problem. locate dm_mod
[01:56] <Sp4rKy> /usr/share/gnulib/m4/st_dm_mode.m4
[01:57] <j0hannes> good morning
[01:57] <[Wiebel] > _jason: is there a way to "film" what you're doing on the desktop?
[01:58] <dartmolx> hello everyone :)
[01:58] <[Wiebel] > s/film/record/
[01:58] <Warbo> [Wiebel] : A few. Istanbul, vnc2swf are the best
[01:58] <lflashl> ubuntu 2.6.12-9-386 does this mean i running a 386 kernel?
[01:59] <gnomefreak> lflashl: yes
[01:59] <[Wiebel] > Warbo: thanks
[01:59] <Warbo> lflashl: Yes, but it will work on anything up to and including amd64
[01:59] <AAA> Sp4rKy  hrm. hold
[01:59] <lflashl> should i be running a 586 or 686 kernel on my AMD 2200+ for better performace
[02:00] <Warbo> lflashl: You should run k7 for best performance
[02:00] <Sp4rKy> AAA, :/
[02:00] <Belboz99> lflashl:  you should use K7
[02:00] <imbrandon> k7
[02:00] <imbrandon> apt-get install linux-k7 ;)
[02:00] <lflashl> is there a k7 kernel and if so whts the name
[02:00] <newbie33> 2.6.10-5-386 what it means?
[02:00] <AAA> Sp4rKy  lsmod|grep dm_mod  on my ubuntu system it is loaded are you running a custom kernel?  let me check something
[02:00] <rob> newbie33, kernel version, and its 386
[02:00] <imbrandon> lflashl: sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[02:00] <rob> compatible that is
[02:01] <gnomefreak> newbie33: that is the kernel
[02:01] <newbie33> how to know ubuntu version?
[02:01] <sobbbber> what p2p software would u recommend for ubuntu?
[02:01] <rob>  uname -a
[02:01] <gnomefreak> newbie33: lsb_release
[02:01] <kgoetz> newbie33, its a generic kernel
[02:01] <gnomefreak> -a
[02:01] <Warbo> newbie33: linux version and the type of computer it was made for (386 is generic PC)
[02:01] <Bizzeh> just set up a 64bit ubuntu, (k8 smp kernel) in vmware, with xfce4, and all the current updates. working like a charm :)
[02:01] <imbrandon> newbie33: cat /etc/issue
[02:01] <Sp4rKy> AAA, yes, it's a custom kernel (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[02:01] <gnomefreak> newbie33: lsb_release -a
[02:01] <kgoetz> imbrandon, hes running hoary it seems
[02:01] <newbie33> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[02:01] <newbie33> Description:    Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release)
[02:01] <newbie33> Release:        5.04
[02:01] <newbie33> Codename:       hoary
[02:01] <newbie33> so its old :(
[02:01] <bliss1_> hi
[02:02] <imbrandon> ahhh kgoetz no "cat /etc/issue" is horray?
[02:02] <kgoetz> :)
[02:02] <kgoetz> imbrandon, hm?
[02:02] <imbrandon> good call ;)
[02:02] <newbie33> how to UP it to newest stable version
[02:02] <[Wiebel] > Warbo: hmm
[02:02] <kgoetz> :)
[02:02] <lflashl> how do i make linux play a meida in the current program IE i wil playing a song and if i click on a new song it will bring up a new windows for the program
[02:02] <[Wiebel] > Warbo: how can i play the ogg files istanbul creates?
[02:02] <bliss1_> looking for this file in ubuntu `/etc/udev/permissions.d/50-udev.permissions not in /etc/udev
[02:02] <[Wiebel] > ow way
[02:02] <[Wiebel] > nvm
[02:03] <levander> if xubuntu-desktop (for xfce) supposed to ship with dapper now?
[02:03] <imbrandon> lflashl: sudo apt-get install mozill-mplayer
[02:03] <levander> is xubuntu-desktop?*
[02:03] <imbrandon> lflashl: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[02:03] <kbrooks> hmm
[02:03] <Warbo> [Wiebel] : Use any player that comes with Ubuntu (that's the one format they CAN play) but Istanbul has a habit of screwing up, so it may be corrupt
[02:03] <[Wiebel] > istanbul freezes up :/
[02:03] <kgoetz> levander, probably still in universe
[02:03] <AAA> Sp4rKy  sounds like you are missing that module in your kernel config, I am not sure where it is in menuconfig, but you prolly need to just build that module.  I am still checking
[02:04] <levander> kgoetz: i thought that was one of the benefits of delaying dapper, they thought they could get xubuntu in
[02:04] <kbrooks> levander: nO.
[02:04] <kbrooks> No.
[02:04] <kbrooks> levander: Polish, etc
[02:04] <Sp4rKy> AAA, ok, so i'll recompil my kernel :)
[02:04] <kgoetz> levander, i'm not sure. tehy were *hoping to*
[02:04] <kgoetz> afaik
[02:04] <Warbo> [Wiebel] : If you get x11vnc package and start it then you can broadcast your desktop to yourself. Use pyvnc2swf (not in repos I don't think) to record it to a swf (flash) file or a vnc session file, both of which can be converted to MPEG
[02:05] <kbrooks> levander: dapper will be a enterpprise level release
[02:05] <levander> kbrooks: you want me to go pull up the letter that that S. African Ubuntu Head guy wrote saying he wanted to get it in?
[02:05] <lflashl> before i install my drivers for my nvidia card should i be doing anythign new to mu system
[02:06] <newbie33> after dist-upgrade everything is perfect
[02:06] <kgoetz> lflashl, bring it up to date
[02:06] <Warbo> [Wiebel] : pyvnc2swf is here if you want it http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/
[02:06] <DiKKy> Hy lol does online poker work with ubuntu lunix ? lol
[02:06] <levander> kbrooks: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-March/000734.html
[02:06] <newbie33> now I would like tu upgrade ubuntu from 5.04 hoary to stable breezy version, hot to make it?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> newbie33: what does uname -r say when typed in terminal?