[14:27] <theadmin> crasher: You can make Pidgin go offline before suspending by somehow making this system run this before suspending: "purple-remote 'setstatus?status=offline'"
[14:27] <varikonniemi> hello, i added google to my ubuntu online account, but my google calendar entries are not coming to ubuntu calendar, what am i missing?
[14:27] <crasher> not right away
[14:27] <Cradam> akira__: for other links see http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage#japanese
[14:27] <dragonslay> MrClaw, do not expect software to do all the job for ya.. you can do it manually :P
[14:27] <Zed`> OMG I've been greped
[14:27] <MrClaw> dragonslay: But sometimes I move from room to room and I'd like my program to tell my friends I'm currently not available, so that I don't have to ask them every time: "have you messaged me? I had to suspend".
[14:27] <crasher> hehe probabily
[14:27] <theadmin> slakcphil: cat list | grep -i "zed\$" # Will search for words which end in zed
[14:28] <MrClaw> dragonslay: ... in case I have lost messages from them.
[14:28] <slakcphil> theadmin, thx!
[14:28] <akira__> Can Japanese gather in ubuntu-jp, I mean is it possible?
[14:29] <MrClaw> My idea is that the OS should send a DBus message: "I'm suspending!", and then all the programs that care would listen and act accordingly. :)
[14:29] <slakcphil> i think i can use python len() to trim the ouput!
[14:29] <crasher> did you checked the preferences options?
[14:29] <akira__> No.
[14:29] <theadmin> slakcphil: To search for stuff which begins in zed, use: grep -i "\^zed"
[14:29] <dragonslay> MrClaw, you could set your status to idle
[14:30] <varikonniemi> so no-one is using the online accounts feature with calendar?
[14:31] <devid19> http://xdcc_97
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> varikonniemi  doesnt ring a bell
[14:32] <MrClaw> crasher: Yes.
[14:34] <tightwork> nom nom nom nom
[14:35] <tightwork> I quit my job yesterday... was SOO cool
[14:35] <crasher> good job:)
[14:35] <DragonSlay> tightwork, good
[14:35] <bazhang> !ot | tightwork
[14:35] <tightwork> but i got a ubuntu related job
[14:35] <tightwork> so its related
[14:35] <tightwork> thx guy
[14:35] <DragonSlay> lol
[14:35] <bazhang> tightwork, not for this channel.
[14:36] <tightwork> !killjoy
[14:36] <bazhang> lets move it to #ubuntu-offtopic tightwork
[14:37] <devid19> !list
[14:37] <devid19> devid19 saluta
[14:38] <devid19> !list
[14:39] <abysiMo> hi guys , i wanna know if there is still something like a mentor , i find it difficult to find my way in this huge learning curve ..
[14:39] <theadmin> abysiMo: You can pm me anytime I here, I'm glad to help out newbies :D I also have a few IM services
[14:39] <Cradam> abysiMo: same here
[14:40] <ioannis> boys  go to play ww.darkorbit.com europi 4
[14:40] <theadmin> lolspamfail
[14:40] <ioannis> www.darkorbit.com*
[14:40] <bazhang> ioannis, dont advertise here
[14:41] <DragonSlay> quit()
[14:41] <Cradam> oh come on, atleast choose a good game to spam with
[14:41] <Negat1ve-Zer0> hmmm
[14:41] <tightwork> haha he typod' his spam
[14:41] <DragonSlay> lol
[14:42] <ioannis> write in google darkorbit
[14:42] <theadmin> :/
[14:43] <bazhang> ioannis, stop that
[14:43] <theadmin> ioannis: Stop it until you get hit with a banhammer
[14:43] <Negat1ve-Zer0> I'm curious....you know how you can wipe out a file (not delete) by doing cat /dev/null > filename. I assume that just writes a zero byte (EOF delimiter) to the file and tells unix that the file is basically empty....say that file space wasn't written over, could you change that first zero byte to something else and get the data in that file back?
[14:44] <theadmin> Negat1ve-Zer0: /dev/null is a constantly empty file. All you basically do is copy it to "filename", turning "filename" into an empty file.
[14:45] <Humbedooh> that would depend on the size of the file
[14:45] <Humbedooh> some partition chunks might be reused for other files
[14:46] <MrClaw> crasher: Have you tested the behaviour of Empathy on the suspension issue?
[14:46] <Negat1ve-Zer0> Humbedooh: hmmm according to theadmin it wipes the whole file
[14:48] <Humbedooh> I wouldn't think it writes all zeros in the whole file
[14:48] <Humbedooh> but it might just reallocate the file somewhere else when overriding it
[14:48] <crasher> MrClaw: when I suspend my laptot, it dosent go offline
[14:48] <Negat1ve-Zer0> I'm assuming it doesn't write over that data though since the resulting file is a 0 byte file...of course it could just hit the first 0 and eof which it prob does anyways
[14:48] <Humbedooh> the data should be somewhere on the disk yes
[14:48] <Negat1ve-Zer0> the data would be in its same physical location
[14:49] <Humbedooh> yes but filename might not be
[14:49] <Negat1ve-Zer0> I'm assuming that the cat /dev/null > filename also doesn't actually free that space
[14:49] <ioannis_> bazhang, What is your problem everyone here advertising
[14:49] <geirha> Negat1ve-Zer0: You don't need cat /dev/null.  Just  > filename  will turncate the file.
[14:49] <geirha> Negat1ve-Zer0: It does free the space
[14:49] <Humbedooh> it would depend on how many clusters the file covered
[14:50] <Negat1ve-Zer0> well I guess I'll just have to test it
[14:50] <Humbedooh> you won't get your files back unless you get down to some basic low-level manipulation :>
[14:51] <Negat1ve-Zer0> yea, I'm not worried, didn't lose any data...just curious
[14:51] <Humbedooh> if you write 1 byte to the file, it would still only be 1 byte long
[14:51] <Negat1ve-Zer0> right...but the question is
[14:53] <Negat1ve-Zer0> lets say I had a eh I dunno...50 byte file..and I > filename so it makes it a 0 byte file...does that put one 0 where the data is effectively telling the os hey..eof is reached immediately so it's a 0 byte file and essentially only one byte of 50 is actually erased on the disk...so 49 would be theoretically recoverable if that zero were changed?
[14:54] <NeedHelp> Hello, how could i set LVDS size manualy?
[14:54] <slakcphil> Negat1ve-Zer0, i would think yes, check and make sure the inode is the same as the original file
[14:54] <ripthejacker> please help
[14:54] <Negat1ve-Zer0> slackcphil: ah, good thinkin
[14:55] <Humbedooh> Negat1ve-Zer0, try reopening the file, seeking to byte 50 and write one byte :)
[14:55] <ripthejacker> graphics issue with my ati radeon 6450
[14:55] <Humbedooh> join the club, ripthejacker  :)
[14:55] <ripthejacker> lol
[14:56] <Humbedooh> tried the alternate drivers?
[14:56] <ripthejacker> but how do i get past installation ??
[14:56] <chrislsp> hello, is there anyone here to help me with audio installation??
[14:57] <Humbedooh> past what installation?
[14:57] <Humbedooh> if you can't start up at all, use recovery mode
[14:57] <ripthejacker> even if i can get it installed i can download and install the driver
[14:58] <chrislsp> I don't have sound on my laptop.At first i had only using headphones
[14:58] <chrislsp> but now aftes a lot of commands i don't have any sound
[14:58] <chrislsp> i am on ubuntu 10.04
[14:58] <chrislsp> do you know how can i install drivers from the beggining??
[14:58] <chrislsp> thanks
[14:59] <DragonSlay> !flood
[15:00] <what_if> Just upgraded the sun-java-xxxx packages on my Ubuntu 10.10 system. Now every browser says java is not installed....
[15:02] <fogdart> hi there
[15:02] <blackshirt> Hi fogdart
[15:02] <Cradam> !pastebinit
[15:02] <fogdart> i have a question about xubuntu window manager themes .. unfortunately noone responds in xubunto channels ...
[15:03] <chrislsp> is anyone here available for helping me out
[15:03] <chrislsp> ?
[15:03] <chrislsp> :(
[15:03] <ripthejacker> how do i install from live usb without the GUI
[15:03] <blackshirt> Fogdart, exactly what the problems?
[15:04] <oCean> what_if: the upgrade did actually remove the oracle java, as per http://goo.gl/x3gcg The repositories no longer provide Oracle/Sun java
[15:04] <blackshirt> chrislsp, what the problem?
[15:04] <fogdart> i habe the latest xubuntu installed. as a have a nice 30" screen the windows sizing borders are far to small to hit with the mouse. what must i do to change this. (old methodes i knew from ubuntu dont seem to work anymore
[15:04] <crasher> cya later
[15:05] <what_if> oCean: Had no idea... thats so odd. Thank you :)
[15:05] <me-1> hi....how can I learn some useful terminal commands..?
[15:05] <helo1> Hey guys I'm having an nfs failure here. The following message shows up in dmesg after trying to list the contents of the export on a mac osx client:
[15:05] <helo1> "[79615.137072] rpcbind: server <client_hostname> not responding, timed out"
[15:05] <helo1> I am able to successfully mount the share and access everything fine in the command line, but as soon as I try to access the folder in finder, I get a disconnect message (and 2-6 iterations of that error in dmesg/syslog). Does anyone have any idea what might cause this?
[15:05] <FloodBot1> helo1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <blackshirt> Fogdart,are you sure ? My xubuntu look and works normally
[15:06] <Negat1ve-Zer0> Humbledooh: I guess the question is now, from the command line how do I change one byte...presumably overwriting the first null byte, not just putting data in front of it
[15:06] <blackshirt> Me-1, what you want?
[15:07] <fogdart> I have the latest xubuntu installed.  As I have a nice 30" screen the window sizing borders are far to small to hit with the mouse. What must i do to change this. (Old methodes (via metacity xml) do not seem to work anymore)
[15:07] <fogdart> blackshirt - it works nice but is not ergonomic on 30" rez
[15:08] <enav> happy new year http://i.imgur.com/jKVnd.png
[15:09] <NeedHelp> How fix bad lcd reported size?
[15:09] <fogdart> blackshirt - in 2560x1600 the 2 pixel sizing border is simply to hard to hit
[15:09] <compdoc> its too hard to hit at any rez
[15:09] <enav> windows border?
[15:10] <fogdart> well but it seems noone cares althoug thay do this for years nw
[15:10] <compdoc> I cannot imagine what people with motor skill problems have to go thru
[15:10] <fogdart> yup window sizing border in xubuntu
[15:10] <enav> fogdart: you are talking about window borders ?
[15:10] <blackshirt> Fogdart, could we resize it through their properties.?
[15:10] <fogdart> enav - window sizing border (for mice) yes
[15:11] <enav> fogdart: you can change the windows size in a better way press alt+middle mouse button and drag
[15:11] <fogdart> yes .. it worked on goold old ubuntu inside the metacity xml configs ..but since they all fucked up the gui nothing works
[15:11] <oCean> fogdart: control your language here, please
[15:11] <fogdart> ok ok .. :-)
[15:11] <enav> fogdart: is way better than hit the borders
[15:12] <fogdart> enav -- i dont want to change my working methodes .. im used to this for decades.
[15:12] <enav> fogdart: is ok but just try it for 2 hours and you will love it
[15:13] <enav> you can change your win size at any place of the win are
[15:13] <enav> area*
[15:13] <fogdart> nope i wont as i work on multiple platforms and this is the common methode ..
[15:13] <sl1ck> Is there any way to remove gnome and unity (as installed and prefer LXDE)?
[15:13] <fogdart> ... and i dont want to damage my brain as much as possible
[15:13] <enav> fogdart: are you using compiz?
[15:14] <fogdart> im using latest xubuntu whatever that is
[15:14] <enav> sl1ck: you can install  lubuntu the unofficial version but is quite nice and fast
[15:14] <blackshirt> Sl1ck,yes,you can do it
[15:15] <sl1ck> blackshirt: any tips?
[15:15] <sl1ck> enav: I would like to avoid another OS (re)install
[15:15] <bazhang> sl1ck, lubuntu-desktop package
[15:15] <blackshirt> Fogdart,yeah, i have xfce desktop with 12.04 alpha release
[15:16] <sl1ck> bazhang: ?
[15:16] <blackshirt> Slick,like bazhang says
[15:16] <bazhang> sl1ck, to get lxde/openbox =lubuntu
[15:16] <enav> sl1ck: if im you i will reinstall because is a faster process with no collateral flaws
[15:16] <bazhang> so install the lubuntu-desktop meta package
[15:16] <blackshirt> Sl1ck,install lubuntu-desktop
[15:16] <fogdart> blackshirt ??
[15:17] <blackshirt> Yes,fogdart
[15:17] <sl1ck> blackshirt: what will happen to the already existing gnome and unity? Or are you suggesting diff OS install?
[15:17] <fogdart> blackshirt -- i mean what you you wanted to tell me ?
[15:17] <bazhang> sl1ck, select it from the login window after that
[15:18]  * dleonardi is installing ubuntu 8.10 on an OQO model 02
[15:18] <dleonardi> wish me luck
[15:18] <bazhang> dleonardi, thats not supported
[15:18] <dleonardi> what isnt
[15:18] <bazhang> dleonardi, that olde version isnt
[15:19] <dleonardi> thats all i got drivers for.
[15:19] <sl1ck> I already Am utilizing LXDE, my aim is to ditch gnome and unity and 'unclog' my seemingly old laptop
[15:19] <dleonardi> if i feel unlucky, ill upgrade.
[15:19] <blackshirt> Sl1ck,no reinstall,you can purging your unity,gnome,or other..or just choose session through display login
[15:19] <bazhang> dleonardi, that doesnt make sense
[15:19] <dleonardi> bazhang: no kernel modules for a specific kernel version makes more sense then i hope?
[15:20] <bazhang> dleonardi, which ones
[15:20] <sl1ck> OK, which packages should I tell apt-get to purge?
[15:20] <sl1ck> I guess this is  the question
[15:20] <blackshirt> Fogdart,try look at xfce config setting
[15:20] <sl1ck> in my bid to remove gnome and unity
[15:20] <bazhang> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde sl1ck
[15:21] <sl1ck> thanks bazhang, what about unity?
[15:22] <bazhang> sl1ck, checked the link yet?
[15:22] <blackshirt> Sl1ck, purge your unity,compiz,gnome if you have them
[15:23] <sl1ck> bazhang: it mentions [x,u,k,ed]buntu nothing about unity
[15:24] <bazhang> sl1ck, the link certainly *does* mention unity
[15:27] <Guest37852> thanks for letting me watch
[15:28] <debaino> how can i repair a broken ubuntu 10.04 lts?
[15:29] <nyancattt> how to enable java in ubuntu firefox
[15:29] <compdoc> kinda depends on whats broken
[15:29] <bazhang> !details | debaino
[15:30] <blackshirt> Debaino,what packages causing broken?
[15:31] <debaino> Details,sorry for that.I tried fixing the screen resolution for ubuntu 10.04 and restarted the machine.I edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf now the system cannot start as it should.
[15:32] <supuers> what did you edit out
[15:32] <MrClaw> crasher: OK, thanks. :-)
[15:32] <mensvaga> Is there a way to encrypt the partition Ubuntu installs on using the graphical installer?  I see documentation on doing it in text mode, but I don't know how to get into the text mode.
[15:33] <mensvaga> I've downloaded the 11.11 iso.
[15:33] <nyancattt> how do i find out where java is installed or not ?
[15:33] <nyancattt> whether
[15:33] <supuers> You can I believe only do it on install unless you are runnning the server edition.
[15:34] <lytithwyn> nyancatt: `dpgk --get-selections | grep java` would be a good place to start
[15:34] <mensvaga> supuers: good enough :)
[15:34] <mensvaga> I'll try that.  thanks
[15:34] <debaino> anyone?
[15:34] <supuers> there may be a work around but not sure
[15:34] <oCean> mensvaga: visit this page http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp, it should start an java applet
[15:34] <mensvaga> oCean: I didn't ask the java question ;)
[15:35] <oCean> mensvaga: I just saw :)
[15:35] <oCean> nyancattt: http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
[15:35] <nyancattt> i type java-verion on terminal it say unkkonow command
[15:35] <supuers> whereis java
[15:35] <oCean> nyancattt: java -version there should be a space
[15:36] <chrislsp> blackshirt are you still available?
[15:37] <mensvaga> nyancattt: dpkg -l |grep -i java
[15:37] <nyancattt> ok now it shows theversion but how to enable it on firefox ?
[15:38] <compitz> hi guys
[15:38] <compitz> c_smith, are you there?
[15:38] <lytithwyn> nayncattt: that's a separate package.  It's either icedtea-plugin or icedtea6-plugin.  Both are installed on my machine.
[15:39] <lytithwyn> Icedtea is a java virtual machine implementation.
[15:41] <dr3mro> hello , I am trying to build a package in ppa for ubuntu and i fail but it builds locally with no problem any help https://launchpadlibrarian.net/88777465/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.imgizor_0.5~ppa2-0~8~oneiric1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz here is my source code     bzr branch lp:imgizor
[15:42] <Carlos279> could not download all repository indexes
[15:43] <nyancattt> isn't that icedtea just an alternative ?
[15:43] <compitz> how can I run update-grub in a system thats not mounted/running? possible at all?
[15:43] <Carlos279> could not download all repository indexes
[15:43] <Warbarbie> http://okedoke.ru/
[15:44] <bazhang> Carlos279, try switching servers via synaptic
[15:44] <lytithwyn> Icedtea is an alternative to the sun jvm, and it's the default for the browser plugin on Ubuntu.
[15:44] <Negat1ve-Zer0> hmmm is there a way to wipe out the EOF off of a file?
[15:45] <Carlos279> Could not download all repository indexes
[15:45] <lytithwyn> We'll, I guess now it's the Oracle jvm.  o.0
[15:45] <bazhang> Carlos279, I answered you, please try that
[15:45] <Negat1ve-Zer0> or at least move it (non-sequentially)
[15:45] <area> Good time of day. I play world of warcraft 1.12.1 on xubuntu, but during the game appear a strange texture. Can I fix it?))
[15:45] <Carlos279> sorry I didnt readit
[15:47] <Carlos279> ok. I am going to try that
[15:47] <Carlos279> baz
[15:52] <VCoolio> compitz: you need to at least mount it, then you could chroot into it if you don't want to boot it
[15:53] <compitz> VCoolia, i can mount the system
[15:53] <cement_head> Has anyone gotten tangerine to work as a music share?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> cement_head: I've always used samba
[15:54] <dr_willis> !info tangerine
[15:54] <compitz> VCoolio, i can mount the system! its encryted... does that make a difference? what would be the commands? sudo chroot update-grub?
[15:54] <cement_head> via mt-daap?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> cement_head: http://www.go2linux.org/linux/2011/07/share-your-music-library-using-linux-server-daap-and-itunes-1109.html
[15:55] <VCoolio> compitz: no, you need to mount the drive, then chroot /yourdrive (which is like booting it), then configure it's grub
[15:56] <VCoolio> compitz: see it this helps https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Chroot
[15:57] <oem_> please is there  a book reference for commande line errors type
[15:57] <oem_> I 'm convaince by the fact that  our experience forms this ab ility to resolve problem
[15:58] <prof> #kernel
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> compitz: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[15:58] <cement_head> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll try this out...
[15:58] <oem_>  but I m sure too that this kind of book exists
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> !manual | oem_
[15:58] <munzir> Hi, how am I supposed to add a local printer?
[15:59] <munzir> system-config-printer shows only network printer
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> munzir: try:  firefox http://localhost:631
[16:00] <projektlabor> i need help
[16:00] <oem_> ok
[16:00] <projektlabor> how i can remove wine, wine tricks
[16:00] <oem_> ubottu: ok
[16:00] <compitz> VCoolia, thanks, though do I have to run so many commands? i dont really get the "jail" thing yet .  I think i need the commands adjusted to an encryted system mounted as the first post here tells you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868681&page=4
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> projektlabor: it's a package like any other
[16:01] <compitz> VCoolio, thanks, though do I have to run so many commands? i dont really get the "jail" thing yet .  I think i need the commands adjusted to an encryted system mounted as the first post here tells you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868681&page=4
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> projektlabor: use software centre of apt-get
[16:01] <projektlabor> it doesent work with apt-get
[16:01] <Dominiol_PL> hi
[16:02] <projektlabor> hi <Dominiol_PL>
[16:02] <Dominiol_PL> fuck
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> projektlabor: sudo apt-get --purge remove wine   should do that
[16:03] <projektlabor> no wine is allready installed
[16:03] <munzir> ActionParsnip: thanks, in cups page I found an option of local printer, I choose it and it asked me for an ipp, I expected to have something like : HP, Cannon, .. where I can choose a model
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> projektlabor: I thought you wanted to remove it..
[16:03] <VCoolio> compitz: sorry, can't help with the encrypted stuff
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> munzir: that's the old school method :)
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> munzir: you can click to detect new printers
[16:04] <projektlabor> my wine is still installed
[16:05] <compitz> VCoolio, with this cheat, the system hd is mounted into root, does this help? how do I chroot to this device? and could I run update grub then?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> projektlabor: can you give a pastebin of:  dpkg -l | grep -i wine; lsb_release -a        Thanks
[16:05] <compitz> VCoolio, with this cheat, the system hd is mounted into root--thats the device's NAME - , does this help? how do I chroot to this device? and could I run update grub then?
[16:05] <projektlabor> im try it
[16:06] <Carlos279> Could not download all repository indexes. I went to synaptic and chosen reload button and the issue persist
[16:06] <compitz> VCoolio, SORRY; NOW: with this cheat, the system hd is mounted into "root" --thats the device's NAME - , does this help? how do I chroot to this device? and could I run update grub then?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Carlos279: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update      use a pastebin to host
[16:08] <Carlos279> hold on
[16:08] <Carlos279> please
[16:09] <projektlabor> wine not recognize my windows files
[16:10] <projektlabor> my wine not recognize my windows files
[16:10] <projektlabor> please need help
[16:10] <bazhang> projektlabor, you just removed it
[16:11] <root> irc.anonops.li
[16:11] <auronandace> !rootirc | root
[16:12] <VCoolio> compitz: check where the drive is mounted (run 'mount'), then: chroot /mount/point /bin/bash, then: edit grub configs and update grub
[16:12] <oem_> what about ping role in web
[16:12] <oem_> what about ping role in web mastering
[16:12] <projektlabor> how can I remove it, I've tried it already with the
[16:12] <projektlabor> Software Center, and apt-get with the console with - reset
[16:13] <dr_willis> oem_:  you may want to ask a more clear question.
[16:13] <dr_willis> projektlabor:  clarify what you mean.
[16:13] <mensvaga> aren't there ubuntu support channels in other languages?
[16:13] <mensvaga> projektlabor: what is your native language?
[16:13] <dr_willis> mensvaga:  lost of them
[16:13] <projektlabor> wie kann ich es entfernen, ich habe es schon versucht mit dem
[16:13] <projektlabor> software cente, apt-get und mit der consolen mit --reset
[16:13] <dr_willis> Lots of them. :)
[16:14] <mensvaga> german
[16:14] <dr_willis> removeing wine via the package manager - will not remove windows apps the user installed.
[16:14] <mensvaga> what's the german channle? ubuntu-de?
[16:14] <dr_willis> !de
[16:14] <oem_> dr_willis: what 's "ping" role at command line?
[16:14] <dr_willis> oem_:  to check network conectity to other machines.
[16:15] <sagredo> hello friends - today when I try to boot my Ubuntu 11.10 it never reaches GRUB and my monitor writes "OUT OF RANGE 60 Hz / 63 Khz"
[16:15] <sagredo> what in the world
[16:15] <sagredo> right?
[16:15] <dr_willis> oem_:  http://linux.die.net/man/8/ping
[16:15] <falcom> hey guys, file -i doesnt seem to report the encoding of the file for me. it just reports "<filename> text/xml"
[16:15] <oem_> dr_willis : ok
[16:15] <dschuett> is there a rule of thumb for the order your partitions should be in (e.g /swap, /boot/, /)?
[16:15] <DragonSlay> !ping
[16:15] <auronandace> dschuett: not really, the order doesn't matter
[16:16] <dr_willis> dschuett:  ages ago people would argue that swap should be on the start, or the end of the hd.. these days i dont think it matters.
[16:16] <dr_willis> dschuett:  ages ago /boot/ was normally befor the 1024 cylinder boundry to make up for lilo limitations also..
[16:16] <sagredo> hello friends - today when I try to boot my Ubuntu 11.10 it never reaches GRUB and my monitor writes "OUT OF RANGE 60 Hz / 63 Khz"
[16:16] <dr_willis> dschuett:  i normally do /boot   /   /home then swap.
[16:17] <sagredo> do you think I should boot with liveCD and try to fix errors or something?
[16:17] <dr_willis> sagredo:   grub has settings to use differnt resolution and modes for its menu. it has a 'text' only display option that should always work. or try a lower res. In any case. grub should still work if its just not seen. and boot the first entry automatically
[16:18] <sagredo> ah yes
[16:18] <sagredo> dr_willis
[16:18] <sagredo> I do note hard drive activity on the LED
[16:18] <compitz> can anyone help here?
[16:18] <compdoc> good question
[16:18] <sagredo> DON'T JUMP
[16:18] <dr_willis> sagredo:  so the system does eventually boot to the desktop?
[16:18] <sagredo> dr_willis no idea
[16:19] <sagredo> I should probably try entering a password and listen for boot sound
[16:19] <dr_willis> sagredo:  let it boot for a while and see i guess.. if it gets to the desktop, tweak your grub configs.
[16:19] <dschuett> dr_willis: thanks for the input. Does the /boot partition need to be a primary partition?
[16:19] <dr_willis> password?
[16:19] <dr_willis> dschuett:  i always make mine a primary.
[16:19] <sagredo> dr_willis you know I cannot even see anything though
[16:19] <sagredo> how would I tweak my grub?
[16:19] <sagredo> via liveCD?
[16:19] <chris_lsp> anyone who can help me with ALSA???
[16:19] <dr_willis> sagredo:  for my systems grub is unseen BUT the desktop eventually comes up.
[16:20] <sagredo> I will mess around
[16:20] <sagredo> thanks
[16:20] <Carlos656> ActionParsnip r u there ?
[16:20] <ubuntufreak> sagredo: did you update the additional hardware drivers for ( if any) of your graphic cards ?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Carlos656: jaunty is EOL, no longer supported
[16:21] <chris_lsp> Please, i'm so sorry for spamming but really I'm so close to punch my screen!
[16:21] <vivanov> cant install a package using apt-build : 'E: The value 'apt-build' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources'
[16:21] <and471> ,
[16:22] <spazthegoat> Good morning =) Does anyone know if it's possible to configure individual virtual machines to use a proxy [not just ie or firefox, but the entire virtual machine]
[16:23] <theadmin> spazthegoat: I beleive so ; create a shortcut to something like: PROXY=yourproxy.example.org VBoxManage startvm "your_vm_name"
[16:23] <theadmin> spazthegoat: And use that
[16:23] <theadmin> spazthegoat: Well, that's if you use VirtualBox
[16:24] <spazthegoat> Currently using VMware, but if it's that easy under virtualbox, I'll go that route
[16:25] <theadmin> spazthegoat: Basically, if VMWare has a command-line way of starting a VM and reads the $PROXY variable, that will work almost the same.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> spazthegoat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1575
[16:25] <spazthegoat> very good. Trying to use bluestacks to do android emulation testing for an app but it blocks out after more than certain connection of ips
[16:27] <spazthegoat> sorry that I had to come in here to ask. My google fu was lacking and running me in circles, so thanks for the pointers in the right direction
[16:27] <theadmin> spazthegoat: That's okay lol
[16:27] <r_a_f> what file system is good readable from windo.. and it works under linux/ubuntu?
[16:28] <helo1> NTFS
[16:28] <graingert> does anyone have a live usb image of 11.10 with gnome shell installed?
[16:28] <r_a_f> ooo thx?
[16:28] <r_a_f> :)
[16:28] <theadmin> graingert: lol what's the point, use the regular and install gnome-shell later
[16:28] <graingert> r_a_f: but don't use it as your root FS
[16:28] <graingert> theadmin: just as a demo
[16:28] <Carlos656> ActionParsnip: how can i fix then ?
[16:29] <flukes1> I'm trying some 3.1+ kernels on my oneiric install there seems to be a problem with nvidia drivers; whenever I boot into one (i've tried 3.1.0, 3.1.5, 3.1.6) there is an oops in dmesg
[16:29] <theadmin> graingert: http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/home/
[16:29] <flukes1> this is on i386 (it worked on 3.1.4 x64)
[16:29] <flukes1> anyone know of a way to get this working?
[16:30] <ntiy> I try to cp file and I get message "file is busy". how do i fix it? thanks
[16:30] <MahaVishnu> ntiy~ use sudo ?
[16:30] <Carlos656> ActionParsnip r u there ?
[16:30] <graingert> theadmin: I don't want it replaced - just available as well :p
[16:30] <flukes1> here's the log http://pastebin.com/0ZFet1Wp
[16:30] <ntiy> I d not have sudo on the system
[16:30] <DarkStar1> Is a remote desktop viewer installed by default in ubuntu 11.10
[16:30] <munzir> ActionParsnip: I don't understand why they removed the old school method! may be it's not autodetected properly
[16:30] <DarkStar1> ?
[16:30] <graingert> theadmin: ie these guys don't have ubuntu-desktop installed
[16:30] <theadmin> graingert: Okay, I don't think I know of anything like that.
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> munzir: its always there and always will be :)
[16:31] <DarkStar1> If not what would be the easiest?
[16:31] <dr_willis> graingert:  theres some remastered unofficial  variants ive seen mentioned.. but never tried them. Check google, webupd8 or omgubuntu blog sites perhaps.
[16:31] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  connecting over local lan? or internet?
[16:32] <DarkStar1> dr_willis: local
[16:32] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  gnome used to have vino, or use some other vnc variant.
[16:32] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  if you want to view the current desktop on the remote. vino i think does it.. vnc has other advanced features for 'hidden' desktops.
[16:35] <oem_> for experience of each own , in how many time can somebody build a minimal OS
[16:35] <MahaVishnu> oem_: ?
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> oem_  depends on what you require
[16:35] <theadmin> oem_: Check out LFS... Not this channel
[16:35] <DarkStar1> dr_willis: I want to setup a local server so I can RD into it
[16:36] <oem_> MonkeyDust: what for exemple
[16:36] <DarkStar1> not sure which will be better for local connection, tight/vnc4server
[16:36] <oem_> MonkeyDust: what for exemple, please share with me some comparaison to fix me
[16:37] <oem_> is LFS the only way to build a minimal OS?
[16:37] <bazhang> !minimal | oem_ no
[16:37] <Carlos656> ActionParsnip ?
[16:38] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  depends on the details of what you are doing and how.  I just use ssh and x forwarding to get remote gui apps from my server on my local box. No need to share a whole desktop.
[16:39] <dr_willis> oem_:  theres no need to be messing me..
[16:39] <dr_willis> messeging. :)
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: what are you doing on the remote box?
[16:39] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: I want to set iy up to accept connections locaally
[16:40] <dr_willis> oem_:  if you want a small linux setup. the tinycorelinux disrto is very handy. starts at 10mb with a gui.
[16:40] <DarkStar1> wanted to find out if there was a default server installed
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: yes but to achieve what?
[16:40] <DarkStar1> Just to have the box Headless.
[16:40] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: i.e. no keyboard no mouse
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: there is a default installed, just not activated
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: you can use ssh to update and that sort of thing
[16:41] <DarkStar1> isHow do I activate it
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: http://stevenharman.net/blog/archive/2008/12/13/vnc-to-a-headless-ubuntu-box.aspx
[16:41] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: I know but I need a remote desktop view for one of those times when I want to browse the file system visually to look for solmething
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: using web UIs and SSH is much sleeker
[16:42] <d3ngar> Hi there
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: you can share folders with samba and access them as windows shares
[16:42] <d3ngar> I seem to be unable to connect from one Ubuntu 11.10 to another Ubuntu 11.10 via Samba
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: no need for full desktop view at all
[16:42] <d3ngar> I get the dreaded unable to mount command
[16:42] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: it'll only be accessed locally so I don't need anything secure or complicated
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: its easier, not secure or complicated, samba is easy to setup
[16:43] <b1tbkt> is there an accepted way to load a preseed config based upon environment? for example if I check processor type and it is intel, use preseed-intel.cfg or if it is amd, use preseed-amd.cfg
[16:43] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: aaahh yes samba! forgot about that
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: you can then map a network drive and browse the files from windows, or mount the share using nautilus
[16:43]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[16:43] <DarkStar1> I can mount it and an external FS
[16:44] <claudio_70> ciao
[16:44] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  remote file access from one linux box to another linux box?
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: yes, using nautilus or map it as a network drive in windows
[16:44] <DarkStar1> Ok I'll go set it up now, but I still need the local RD so I can carry on setting up the box. I can't borrow the screen attached to it for much longer
[16:45] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: Not worried about using it from a Winbox
[16:46] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: what web UI do you suggest?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: for what service?
[16:47] <DarkStar1> RD view
[16:47] <dr_willis> !vnc | DarkStar1
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: not sue there
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> *sure
[16:48] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: I thought you said a server is installed by default juust not switched on?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: vino is in the desktop, not sure in the server
[16:49] <DarkStar1> I just wanted to know before going to install vnc or tight vnc
[16:50] <d3ngar> I'm struggling with setting up my Samba server: I get the "Unable to mount location" error on the client
[16:50] <d3ngar> system-config-samba gives me an error saying that the module 'glade' is missing
[16:52] <Gentoo64> ^ ^
[16:52] <Gentoo64> 0 0
[16:52] <Gentoo64>  o
[16:52] <Gentoo64>  _
[16:52] <FloodBot1> Gentoo64: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:53] <MahaVishnu> d3ngar: on the client do a smbclient -L ip.of.server
[16:54] <d3ngar> NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_RESPONSE
[16:54] <d3ngar> Is what I get back
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> d3ngar: can you ping the IP?
[16:54] <d3ngar> i can ping the IP though
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> :)
[16:55] <d3ngar> :)
[16:55] <d3ngar> Well
[16:55] <MahaVishnu> d3ngar: sry never had that problem with samba
[16:55] <d3ngar> I also don't know why the system-config-sambe doesn't work
[16:55] <d3ngar> :(
[16:56] <MahaVishnu> what do you need that for? you can hand edit the config file if you need to
[16:56] <d3ngar> Yes, I know but it's a pain in the testees!
[16:56] <MahaVishnu> not really ;-\
[16:58] <Carlos656> ActionParsnip ?
[16:59] <MahaVishnu> should have named your self RegretCabbage
[17:00] <Carlos656> ActionParsnip r u there ?
[17:01] <XiaolinDraconis> i wanna make a dvd that autoplays in windows and linux. loaded with retro roms. can someone point me to the right channel?
[17:01] <MahaVishnu> XiaolinDraconis: nope
[17:01] <satty> how to enable input method
[17:02] <XiaolinDraconis> MahaVishnu, as in not gonna happen? mission impossible?
[17:02] <MahaVishnu> anything is possible under the yellow sun
[17:02] <XiaolinDraconis> thats what i thought
[17:03] <XiaolinDraconis> i want a disc that has the programs to play these games
[17:03] <XiaolinDraconis> so i can play it on any machine without installing anything
[17:03] <MahaVishnu> so put the binaries required in a folder linux and win32
[17:03] <MahaVishnu> and the roms in another
[17:04] <XiaolinDraconis> thats what i would assume but im quite positive there's more to it
[17:04] <XiaolinDraconis> i know how it works and what not its just the linux side of things is foreign
[17:05] <XiaolinDraconis> there's too many "program files" folders on linux
[17:05] <MahaVishnu> well first off. you would probably need a script for linux
[17:05] <XiaolinDraconis> i can write scripts
[17:05] <ribot> my damned cron doesn't work
[17:05] <XiaolinDraconis> well its more of a copy n paste thing but its an educated copy paste
[17:05] <ribot> how can it work?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: what system for, there are emulators in the repos
[17:06] <MahaVishnu> I know you can make linux autorun a dvd. does it use the same autorun file as windows? do some research
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> ribot: tried a reboot?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:07] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip: ??
[17:07] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip, im gonna have my fave mame, snes, sega, psx games on one disc
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: its a terminal command
[17:07] <ribot> ActionParsnip: no, it's not really a good alternative
[17:07] <guest2342> question: I have zero ubuntu experience. I installed wine, it says I should run a command in the folder. I don't see any command line in the folder window.
[17:07] <guest2342> there isn't any command line at all
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: i see, there are emulators for all, obviously you will need your Playstation ROMS to get the playstation emulator running
[17:08] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip: I know just not sure why you want ME to run it.
[17:08] <XiaolinDraconis> MahaVishnu, no it doest use the same autorun feat. i know how that works
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> guest2342: press CTRL+Alt+T to get a terminal
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: yes, its needed to help you...
[17:08] <MahaVishnu> XiaolinDraconis: then figure out how it works for linux and have both windows autorun + linux on the dvd + the binaries + roms
[17:08] <czz> I'd like to be able to click to any location on a command line and then insert/delete text there. How can i do this?
[17:09] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip: I have no problem right now :-)
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: i thought you wanted autorun for dvd?
[17:09] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip, i already have the emu's installed i wanna know how i would go about getting them to run from a dvd. and maha was stating that to help me
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: do you mean video dvd or data?
[17:09] <chrislsp> Hello, I have a problem with my soundcard. I can hear sound only from headphones and not from the laptop speakers. Any ideas??
[17:09] <chrislsp> thank you
[17:09] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip, he has no issue
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> chrislsp: what make and model laptop?
[17:09] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip: thats XiaolinDraconis and he wants an autorun dvd for snes emulator or something to work on linux + windows
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: ahhh I seeeee
[17:10] <munzir> ActionParsnip: sorry but I am still lost, I want to add an hp monitor with specific model, how can I do this?
[17:10] <chrislsp> ActionParsnip i know it's an amilo
[17:10] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip: and we simply need to know how to make it autorun on linux.
[17:10] <munzir> ActionParsnip: sorry I mean hp printer
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> munzir: HPLIP will pick that up and install it for you
[17:11] <munzir> ActionParsnip: now I don't have it connected and still I want to add it
[17:11] <guest2342> should I just wait for an answer or ask my question again later?
[17:11] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip, im trying to make a data disc that would allow me to play my favorite games on windows and linux without installing anything
[17:11] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip, so i could bring it to friends and play on their pc's without intruding
[17:11] <pen_> holla
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> munzir: what is the output of: sudo dmidecode --type 1
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> munzir: use a pastebin to host
[17:12] <XiaolinDraconis> the windows side i can handle
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: not sure there
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> munzir: or: sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[17:13] <BluesKaj> chrislsp, open a terminal and type alsamixer , use the arrow keys to navigate and turn up the volume on the controls and unmute any ctrls with an M in the box with the M key., also if you have auto mute enable , disable it with up/down arrow key
[17:14] <munzir> ActionParsnip: HP Pavilion dv6 Notebook PC
[17:14] <MahaVishnu> XiaolinDraconis: try asking in ##linux
[17:16] <guest2342> #winehq
[17:18] <XiaolinDraconis> i decided to try and rephrase my google search a few more ways
[17:18] <chrislsp> BluesKaj everythning is unmuted and full but still nothing
[17:19] <v0lksman> hello all
[17:19] <sfilive> halo
[17:19] <juso> anyone know a method to put mp3s from ubuntu on iphone?
[17:19] <v0lksman> how can you tell from dpkg (cmd line only) what source a package comes from?
[17:20] <zer0her0> anyone using an ultra book yet?
[17:20] <v0lksman> juso: last I checked ios5 broke that ability for now
[17:20] <juso> v0lksman, damn!
[17:20] <v0lksman> juso: indeed!
[17:20] <chrislsp> juso use itunes only, best choice anything else is full of trouble
[17:21] <BluesKaj> chrislsp, aplay -l , pastebin the output pls
[17:21] <juso> chrislsp, yeah whatever linux needs to do to get in the front line along with windows/max in regards to software support needs to happen already!
[17:21] <juso> windows/mac*
[17:21] <XiaolinDraconis> its there already
[17:22] <juso> XiaolinDraconis, thats gotta be a joke.
[17:22] <XiaolinDraconis> linux isnt as far behind as everybody seems to think
[17:22] <AFD> is it possible to resume after an scp transfer stalls=
[17:22] <edbian> juso, actually, linux has more support for more hardware than any other OS
[17:23] <juso> edbian, i specifically said software support.
[17:23] <XiaolinDraconis> he said software
[17:23] <XiaolinDraconis> i think
[17:23] <XiaolinDraconis> yep
[17:23] <edbian> juso, I thought you meant software support of hardware.
[17:23] <edbian> juso, what do you mean exactly by software support?
[17:23] <zer0her0> apps, apps, apps!
[17:23] <zer0her0> (is my guess)
[17:23] <edbian> juso, you wanna be able to run ms word?
[17:24] <chrislsp> BluesKaj http://pastebin.com/iENJN92R
[17:24] <zer0her0> edbian, it would be nice to have official apps from major vendors yes
[17:24] <XiaolinDraconis> here's the diff juso with linux u have to open your eyes and read, windows you can get your hand held
[17:24] <MahaVishnu> juso: then you can pay for them. ill take my free open source stuff every day.
[17:24] <MahaVishnu> + my programs have less bugs / updated more often
[17:24] <edbian> zer0her0, what's the difference between an official app and an open source app?
[17:25] <XiaolinDraconis> open source you can fix urself
[17:25] <zer0her0> edbian, tech support, non-techy management more likely to sign off on it.
[17:25] <Guest76315> hi ho
[17:25] <Guest76315> "_
[17:25] <juso> itunes and netflix
[17:25] <Guest76315> :)
[17:25] <juso> Do I need to name 5 more?
[17:25] <edbian> zer0her0, ha, tech support is for the weak :P
[17:26] <MahaVishnu> juso: lol there are itunes replacements on linux that are better. yeah no music store if you like buying music from apple.
[17:26] <zer0her0> and THIS is why Linux will never gain ground
[17:26] <edbian> juso, I admit, netflix would be nice.   (really?  itunes?)
[17:26] <RandomPackage> cannot remove programs in 11.10, keep getting a programming error in aptdaemon....tried running 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' nothing changed... :/
[17:26] <edbian> ahhh
[17:26] <AFD> is there a way to resume a stalled scp transfer?
[17:26] <edbian> we're off-topic
[17:26] <XiaolinDraconis> just a tad
[17:26] <MahaVishnu> netflix is working on a linux version.........
[17:26] <MahaVishnu> nuff said
[17:26] <zer0her0> Adobe CS, Evernote are two biggies i need
[17:26] <edbian> MahaVishnu, not enough said, what are you talking about.  What distro?  How?
[17:26] <zer0her0> XiaolinDraconis, do you fix your car yourself?
[17:27] <XiaolinDraconis> technically it all works on linux... VMWARE
[17:27] <XiaolinDraconis> only when its cheaper
[17:27] <juso> MahaVishnu, no it is not
[17:27] <juso> techincally its NOT working on linux if im installed another OS on top of it, lmao
[17:28] <RandomPackage>  cannot remove programs in 11.10, keep getting a programming error in aptdaemon....tried running 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' nothing changed... :/
[17:28] <zer0her0> so anyone using ubuntu w/ any of the new ultra books?
[17:28] <ukwiz> how do I install a deb that I have downloaded?
[17:28] <XiaolinDraconis> click on it?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> RandomPackage: can you give the output of:   sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:28] <ribot> in my syslog i have this line, does it mean cronjobs have run? Dec 30 18:24:01 localhost cron[111]: (root) RELOAD (crontabs/root)
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> ukwiz: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[17:29] <edbian> ActionParsnip, why do you want him to fix broken packages?
[17:30] <ukwiz> ActionParsnip: Thx
[17:30] <juso> MahaVishnu, iOS 5 does not work with any linux applications. you seem to keep being wrong with everything.
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> edbian: if the deb has dependancies, they wil be dealt with from the repos
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> RandomPackage: use a pastebin to host the text
[17:31] <edbian> ActionParsnip, aaah
[17:31] <MahaVishnu> juso: good for me I don't have a shiny new iphone or whatever. nor do I give a crap
[17:31] <arri> hoi all! i'm trying to understand the severity of grub2-efi corrupting macbooks' firmware (bricking it) as described here http://goo.gl/swfqe . is the a total no-go? i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 - without hybrid mbr. thanks.
[17:32] <edbian> juso, I wish that apple would open IOS 5 to linux as well
[17:32] <MahaVishnu> juso: they use linux/unix code and then change it + sell it. how you like them APPLES
[17:33] <BluesKaj> !intelhda | chrislsp
[17:33] <juso> MahaVishnu, you are horribly wrong once again, please stop.
[17:33] <edbian> MahaVishnu, indeed, not true.  They used unix-like BSD code
[17:33] <MahaVishnu> I said unix
[17:34] <edbian> MahaVishnu, they didn't take unix code.   Am i the only one to note the stupid theme selector does not even read the contents of the /usr/share/themes?
[17:45] <DrPenguin> arri: im 100% sure.. your not touching the macs firmware, just the hard drive
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: not used it
[17:46] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i got the prove right in front of my eyes.. go /usr/share/themes pick up one of the "approved themes" and change it's name.. automatically it' won't be read/displayed
[17:47] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ActionParsnip:  i am talking about the default theme chancer the one that comes shipped with ubunut
[17:48] <Gorilla_No_Baka> somebody is taking the mikey..
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: yes, i've never had to use it
[17:48] <glebihan> Gorilla_No_Baka, depending on what you do when you say you change the theme's name, it's normal that it would make it disappear
[17:48] <arri> DrPenguin: that's what i'd think.. until i read these posts of ppl having mobo's replaced..
[17:48] <arri> (looking for links)
[17:49] <Gorilla_No_Baka> the folder's name.. the very folder where the theme resides
[17:49] <DrPenguin> arri: that makes no sense
[17:49] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  not touching notiing from the theme
[17:49] <glebihan> Gorilla_No_Baka, well then it's normal, that's not enough to change a theme's name
[17:49] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  it is enough to change it and it can not be read anymore..  try it.. log as root and try to see
[17:50] <glebihan> Gorilla_No_Baka, no it is *not* enough
[17:51] <glebihan> Gorilla_No_Baka, by doing that you're introducing inconsistencies which prevent the theme from being listed/loaded
[17:51] <DrPenguin> arri: those people arent the smartest ones, you wouldnt need a mobo replacement for this.. your not touching the mobo
[17:51] <Chees_BHW> HI ALL. i got a shell script and its working fine when i run it. but when i close putty it stops running. how do i make it run all the time ?
[17:51] <Gorilla_No_Baka> lol
[17:51] <arri> DrPenguin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting - end of first section
[17:51] <Gorilla_No_Baka> are you serious?
[17:51] <arri> ...This feature is not recommended on Mac models because it can corrupt the firmware. You will need to reflash the firmware to repair it....
[17:51] <glebihan> Gorilla_No_Baka, yes I am
[17:51] <Chees_BHW> HI ALL. i got a shell script and its working fine when i run it. but when i close putty it stops running. how do i make it run all the time ?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Chees_BHW: you can use screen
[17:52] <no_gravity> Hello! I try to run my firefox traffic via an ssh proxy. So i run "ssh -D 5000 <my_server>" and set the firefox proxy setting to use <IP_ADDRESS> port 5000. But I only get empty pages when i put an url into firefox. Any ideas?
[17:52] <Chees_BHW> ActionParsnip what is this ?
[17:52] <arri> DrPenguin: and this bugreport: http://goo.gl/swfqe
[17:52] <DrPenguin> arri: what firmware is this talking about..?
[17:52] <DrPenguin> unless this is talking about rEFit
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Chees_BHW: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1146143
[17:53] <arri> DrPenguin: and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10743955&posted=1#post10743955
[17:53] <DrPenguin> arri: stopppp throwing links at me
[17:53] <arri> ok .. ok;)
[17:54] <arri> what firmware.. well, i'm not sure - otherwise i'd probably not be asking.
[17:54] <DrPenguin> arri: I dont understand how firmware is being corrupted
[17:54] <DrPenguin> unless Ubuntu is touching the mobo
[17:55] <Gorilla_No_Baka> glebihan:  listen man.. channging the folder's name... NOT TOUCHING the content of the theme inside,,.. The lovely theme selector  can not find the thheme.. Ok.. I got Elegant-Arch-gtk3 and Ambiance..  i just swaped the names of the folders without touching the theme..  (Not that  was reading it before either..) to me .. it looks just like the same storr
[17:55] <Chees_BHW> ActionParsnip thanks!
[17:55] <arri> i guess the firmware as Apple loads it on the macbook, such as MacBook Pro EFI Firmware Update 1.7
[17:56] <arri> http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacBook_Pro_EFI_Firmware_Update_1_7_
[17:56] <arri> (sorry for the link;)
[17:56] <glebihan> Gorilla_No_Baka, well it's the same as the one I just mentioned... Changing a theme's name takes more than just renaming the folder
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: what is the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release    please
[17:56] <DrPenguin> arri: theo nly other thing I can think of is that Apple installs the firmware on the hdd.. but that makes no sense
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: I'll have a dig see what I can find#
[17:56] <DrPenguin> arri: those links are not clear, and i would argue the point that firmware i sbeing corrupted
[17:57] <arri> DrPenguin: this is not loaded on the hd, this is responsible for initial hardware initialization, basic device drivers etc..
[17:57] <DrPenguin> arri: I know that
[17:58] <arri> that's what makes it scary.. it's not the EFI bootoader, rather the EFI itsself
[17:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> I am making a script for a friend of mine (he's got a macbook pro 8,1) well this script downloads .... glebihan  my firend you are not reading whaat i am actually telling you  I DO NOT intend to change theme;s name.. that was an experiment to prove they messed arround with the theme selector.. bsically that would only read their themes.. it does not matter you bring in a new gtk theme.. nope.. you're screwed .. if you
[17:59] <DrPenguin> arri: honestl,y I think its just some people who have no idea what they are doing breaking their systems
[17:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[17:59] <Deltatash> I wonder if anyone can help me with a problem I have. I am trying to burn some files to disc using Brasero and when I click burn it instantly ejects my disc and says "Error while burning, Some files have invalid names" I then have an option to save the log. I save the log and read it it mentiones invalid names but does not exactly say what are the invalid names it does nolt make sense to me :s
[17:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme 'Elegant-Arch-gtk3'
[17:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> # Icon-Theme:
[17:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme 'HumanME-green'
[17:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> #Window decorator:
[17:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> gconftool-2 --set --type string /apps/metacity/general/theme 'Elegant-Arch-gtk3'
[17:59] <FloodBot1> Gorilla_No_Baka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <Deltatash> anyone with a little more experience able to help me please
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: can you give the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release   please
[18:00] <DrPenguin> Deltatash: do any of the file names contain weird characters or are super duper long?
[18:00] <arri> DrPenguin: i've been researching all day.. but not so sure about that.. but then, if you are..
[18:00] <Gorilla_No_Baka> so.. what i am trying to say.. is my firend would love to actually be able to select his gtk3 themes as normal.. he is not happy with me  creating script files for him just to be able to change a theme
[18:00] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ActionParsnip:  stand by 1 se please
[18:00] <glebihan> Gorilla_No_Baka, I read you very well, I was just telling you that your tests were not relevant
[18:00] <Deltatash> I dunno I will check now DrPenguin
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: no worries
[18:01] <Decepticon> hi!
[18:01] <Decepticon> people I need to help me
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: ask away
[18:01] <Decepticon> I want to install in wine an unity virtual but in wine
[18:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ActionParsnip:
[18:01] <arri> DrPenguin: one report mentions the 'bricked' harddrive worked fine after the mobo-replacment.. (firmware repair?)
[18:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> root@gorilla-MacBookPro:~# cat /etc/lsb-release
[18:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[18:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10
[18:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric
[18:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10"
[18:01] <FloodBot1> Gorilla_No_Baka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:01] <Resistance> wait what?
[18:01] <oem_> Decepticon: explain more your problem
[18:01] <Resistance> !pastebin | Gorilla_No_Baka
[18:01] <Deltatash> theres one or 2 longish filenames DrPenguin but its weird becuase these files were extracted from an .ISO i am trying to burn them to disc after extracting but its a no go I cant even re add them to another .ISO i get same error
[18:01] <Decepticon> because I need to rosetta stone install lenguage but the software to me ask for the cd-rom
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: wine is available in the repos
[18:02] <DrPenguin> arri: if the board was replaced, then it would have whatever firmware is on it (unless it was reflashed)
[18:02] <DrPenguin> Deltatash: how long is long?
[18:02] <arri> DrPenguin: supposedly, when bricked it doesn't even pass 'POST' (or whatever?)
[18:02] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip:  but I need to unity virtual in wine of cd-rom o dvd-rom
[18:02] <Decepticon> because i have a notebook
[18:02] <Resistance> Decepticon:  just install wine from the repos, you don't need a "virtual unity", just install wine, and it should work (you will also need the Rosetta Stone CDs/DVDs anyways)
[18:02] <Decepticon> I dont have cd.-rom
[18:02] <DrPenguin> arri: well if the firmware cant do its job for stage1 booting, then yeah
[18:03] <Resistance> Decepticon:  then your question is "How do I mount DVD/CD images so I can install software from them"?
[18:03] <Decepticon> Resistance: but is for the lenaguege
[18:03] <Decepticon> lenguage
[18:03] <Resistance> Decepticon:  the alternative is you go out, and buy a $20 USB CD/DVD reader
[18:03] <Deltatash> its 31 characters long DrPenguin and like 3 spaces
[18:03] <Decepticon> Resistance: buuuuuuuuu! no because is for me
[18:03] <Resistance> Decepticon:  for the record, I know what Rosetta Stone is, and I have it installed in both Windows and Linux on this machine
[18:03] <Decepticon> dem
[18:03] <Resistance> Decepticon:  i take it english isnt your first language?
[18:04] <arri> DrPenguin: so looking for advice, maybe leave this for now - as i'm not exactly up to par with firmware flashing etc.. ?
[18:04]  * Resistance sees some typing issues that make that seem apparent...
[18:04] <Decepticon> english and german
[18:04] <Decepticon> in wine the rosetta stone run fine
[18:04] <Resistance> Decepticon:  would it be easier to talk in german to get help?  there's a german support channel:
[18:04] <Resistance> !de | Decepticon
[18:04] <Decepticon> very fine but the problem is when the software tell me for the cdrom with lenguage
[18:04] <Resistance> Decepticon:  we're finding it difficult to understand what you're needing
[18:05] <Resistance> Decepticon:  you'd have to install the Linux language pack for the Language
[18:05] <Deltatash> any idea DrPenguin?
[18:05] <Resistance> and/or the Wine language packs
[18:05] <arri> DrPenguin: things is, if this is a REAL problem, i'd expected to see some huge red warning somewhere..
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: once you install the app in wine, it will run under unity just fine..
[18:05] <Resistance> ActionParsnip:  he's having issues with the program detecting the languages
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> i see
[18:06] <Resistance> ActionParsnip:  in windows, it'll auto-install the required language pack(s) from Windows
[18:06] <DrPenguin> arri: then dont use 11.04+? use 10.04
[18:06] <Resistance> ActionParsnip:  in Linux, you have to hack around that (PITA to do, which is why I also keep Windows VMs handy)
[18:07] <arri> DrPenguin: yeah, well - i was too adventerous perhaps. i guess i'll leave this for now. thanks!
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Resistance: not used it tbh, sounds annoying
[18:08] <Resistance> ActionParsnip:  its profoundly annoying (although its resulted in my MSDN license getting extremely high usage for the OS ISOs from Windows :P)
[18:13] <Decepticon> I canot add cdrom in wine
[18:13] <Decepticon> help me please
[18:13] <Decepticon> please! I need to add cd-rom in wine
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: playonlinux makes life a little easier
[18:14] <Decepticon> play in lunx=??
[18:15] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip:  but is possible add cd-rom unity virtual in wine =??
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> true
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> !info playonlinux
[18:17] <Deltatash> can anyone help me I am trying to burn some files to disc using Brasero in Ubuntu 10.4 LTS and it instantly fails when i click burn and says  Some files have invalid names" I then have an option to save the log. I save the log and read it it mentiones invalid names but does not exactly say what are the invalid names it does nolt make sense to me :s here is my Brasero burn log that failed http://pastebin.com/06hJfmTV
[18:18] <Deltatash> any help would be apreciated guys
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Deltatash: tried another burning app?
[18:18] <Deltatash> no
[18:19] <Deltatash> what app would you reccomend ActionParsnip ?
[18:19] <Decepticon> somebody that do install rosetta stone in ubuntu
[18:19] <Decepticon> pleaseee
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Deltatash: xfburn is pretty sweet imho
[18:19] <Deltatash> ok I will try that, thanks
[18:20] <beachbuddah> hello room
[18:21] <Decepticon> beachbuddah: hey! hi
[18:21] <beachbuddah> can anyone tell me why the 32 bit version of 11.10 is 'recommended' over the 64 bit?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> beachbuddah: it will work on more CPUs
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> beachbuddah: as 32bit OS will run on 64bit CPU
[18:22] <beachbuddah> but if I have a 64 bit chip...?
[18:22] <xangua> beachbuddah: use what you want then
[18:22] <beachbuddah> fair enuf
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> beachbuddah: then you can use 64bit if you want
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> beachbuddah: remember the target audience of ubuntu ;)
[18:22] <Decepticon> somebody that do of rosetta stone in ubuntu =??
[18:23] <beachbuddah> I really appreciate the fact that all you different folks come in here and make yourselves available to help people like me
[18:23] <Deltatash> ok ActionParsnip I have xfburn installed now gonna try and burn with it :D
[18:23] <beachbuddah> thanks alot]
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> beachbuddah: always welcome :D
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> beachbuddah: thanks for the gratitude too :D:D
[18:23] <Humbedooh> PactionArsenip!
[18:23] <OerHeks> next LTS 12.04 says 64 bit is recommended :-)
[18:24] <beachbuddah> you're certainly welcome - have a great New Year's all - I'm off to d/l land
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: its not bad at all !wfm ;)
[18:24] <th^2> hello all. anyone solved this problem? it appears when im tryig to launch net stream. Blocked: call to setenv("_PX_CONFIG_ORDER", "", 1)
[18:24] <th^2> libva: libva version 0.32.0
[18:24] <th^2> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0".
[18:24] <th^2> libva: va_getDriverName() returns 0
[18:24] <th^2> Segmentation fault
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> th^2: net steam using what app?
[18:25] <th^2> ActionParsnip, aaah. VLC
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> th^2: tried a different app?
[18:25] <th^2> ActionParsnip, not really
[18:27] <Gizmo> hi all
[18:27] <th^2> okay it works fine with the mplayer
[18:27] <th^2> ActionParsnip
[18:28] <thechris> Does anyone have an idea how to get an ASUS USB-N53 wifi adaptor to scan for AP's?
[18:28] <th^2> thechris, iwlist?
[18:28] <thechris> th^2: I've tried iwlist wlan0 scanning, but "no results found"
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> th^2: ok we have isolated the issue to just vlc :)
[18:29] <thechris> there are dozens of AP's in the area
[18:29] <th^2> ActionParsnip, yes
[18:29] <th^2> thechris, is it working otherways?
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> th^2: if you use vlc as a new user,is it the same?
[18:29] <thechris> th^2: unknown.  I can't find my AP
[18:29] <wernhamhogg> Hi everyone.. got an error message when starting up my ubuntu-server: kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) .... been googling some and it seems most ppl get this after they've done some kind of update... However my server just turned itself off and now i get this when im starting it. any ideas on whats wrong?
[18:29] <Deltatash> hey ActionParsnip xfburn worked for me :D thanks for that :D dunno what it was that Brasero didnt like but atleast xfburn works :D
[18:29] <th^2> ActionParsnip, hmm let me try
[18:31] <iiname> hello
[18:31] <iiname> i have a problem with the display ( menu bar is missing in 12.04, unity --reset does not help
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> iiname: ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:32] <iiname> ActionParsnip thanks
[18:32] <th^2> ActionParsnip, well... Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_BUS_TYPE")
[18:32] <th^2> [0xecaa10] inhibit interface error: Failed to connect to the D-Bus session daemon: //bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: No protocol specified
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> iiname: you are using pre-release so you will get issues
[18:32] <th^2> Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.
[18:32] <xangua> iiname: or use 11.10
[18:32] <th^2> but this is not the same error
[18:32] <mellpatr> its possible to use sudo with a domain user?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> th^2: are you on the same PC or is this via SSH?
[18:32] <th^2> and its not priority because theres only one account used to watch any videos
[18:33] <mellpatr> like as runas command at windows?
[18:33] <th^2> ActionParsnip, same PC. just added a new user. might be because of privilaged though
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> th^2: try vlc with sudo, just to test
[18:33] <Wanguard> is there any way to tether a feature phone(Java)?
[18:33] <th^2> ActionParsnip, to run internet app with root access?
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> th^2: sure, its only to test, see if its priveledges causing the issue
[18:35] <th^2> ActionParsnip, VLC is not supposed to be run as root. Sorry.
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> th^2: is that the message?
[18:35] <th^2> ActionParsnip, yes
[18:35] <edbian> ha
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> i see
[18:36] <th^2> okay used vlc-wrapper
[18:36] <th^2> libva: libva version 0.32.0
[18:36] <th^2> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0".
[18:36] <th^2> libva: va_getDriverName() returns 0
[18:36] <iiname> ActionParsnip  I logged into #ubuntu+1, see the list of users, but no activity. Is there a different authentication requirement for that room?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> iiname: no its just like here but for precise (12.04) until release day
[18:37] <edbian> ActionParsnip, what is the codename for 12.04 ?
[18:37] <edbian> iiname, It's just quieter
[18:37] <xangua> iiname: why do you want to use pangolin on first place¿
[18:38] <th^2> ActionParsnip, any ideas?
[18:39] <iiname> xangua I am trying 12.04 exploratively
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> th^2: not sure, you could try the vlc ppa to get vlc 1.2
[18:39] <iiname> ebdian thanks
[18:39] <LivTyler> how do I connect to a VPN connection created with NetworkManager?
[18:40] <iiname> ebdian the code name for 12.04 is precise pangolin
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> LivTyler: once the connection is made, just connect as you would and routing will happen for you
[18:40] <edbian> iiname, thanks
[18:40] <bigtom21485> anyone know how to get the latest version of adobe reader to work on a 64-bit computer?
[18:40] <bigtom21485> how do i install with my deb file i downloaded...
[18:40] <LivTyler> ActionParsnip: it's created but there's no button "Connect"
[18:40] <edbian> bigtom21485, sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[18:41] <edbian> bigtom21485, and then sudo apt-get -f install
[18:41] <th^2> noob: howto remove a user?
[18:42] <lytithwyn> th^2: sudo userdel <username>
[18:42] <compitz> hi guys, can someone help me to chroot update-grub on a mounted but not running filesystem?
[18:42] <edbian> compitz, chroot /path/to/mounted/root/    then run sudo update-grub
[18:42] <th^2> lytithwyn, aah thats it. danke
[18:42] <lytithwyn> Sure.
[18:42] <edbian> compitz, (you might want grub-install)
[18:43] <compitz> edbian why install?
[18:43] <edbian> compitz, well, is grub installed?
[18:43] <edbian> compitz, on this hdd ?
[18:43] <LivTyler> ActionParsnip: it's created but there's no button "Connect"
[18:43] <bigtom21485> how do i force the depackaging? my deb is 32 bit, my system is 64 bit
[18:44] <edbian> bigtom21485, You have to get a 64 bit .deb
[18:44] <LivTyler> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to set up a PPTP connection
[18:44] <compitz> edbian do you remeber how, was it you?, who told me to use the open source invidia driver on 10.4? well anyway, yes, my whole system is installed, i just cant run it cause of the black screen
[18:45] <edbian> compitz, that has likely nothing to do with grub :)
[18:45] <edbian> compitz, when you boot, press shift early to get the grub menu
[18:45] <compitz> i know, edbian, hold on a sec
[18:45] <edbian> compitz, if a menu comes up (with ubuntu) grub is fine
[18:45] <edbian> compitz, I can fix the black screen probably too
[18:46] <compitz> edbian, i tried pressing vereything, wait i tell you what i did
[18:46] <edbian> compitz, ok
[18:46] <edbian> compitz, this is a big issue.  Follow this wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[18:47] <edbian> compitz, come back here if you get stuck with something
[18:47] <compitz> edbian, i googled it and the problem is probably this: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[18:48] <LivTyler> can someone help with a PPTP connection? I've created a VPN connection via Network Manager but how DO I connect?
[18:48] <edbian> compitz, yes, this is covered in the guide I gave
[18:48] <compitz> edbian, no what i did was editing the grub to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" like it said, but at the bottom of the page it says i had to run update-grub
[18:49] <edbian> compitz, that's not true.  If you add nomodeset in grub then it is only temporary.  Running update-grub is to permenantly add nomodeset.  You only need to do this if nomodeset worked
[18:49] <lytithwyn> Thanks for the wiki link, compitz.    I'll have to try some of that stuff!
[18:49] <bigtom21485> edbian: why is my browser telling me i don't have the most updated version?
[18:49] <edbian> lytithwyn, the wiki I posted
[18:50] <guest_> I am wondering if the guys at The Linux documentation project have an advanced perl guide equivalent to their advanced bash guide abs? If so a link to it would be great I really want to learn the hardest perl stuff know the basics...
[18:50] <edbian> bigtom21485, the most updated version of what?
[18:50] <lytithwyn> Ah, sorry.  Thanks edbian.
[18:50] <edbian> lytithwyn, that's fine
[18:50] <bigtom21485> edbian: why would www.va.gov not like google chrome on ubuntu x64?
[18:50] <edbian> bigtom21485, lemme test of 32 bit
[18:50] <compitz> lytithwyn, well for general ubuntuuser, i might tell you never to change a running system...
[18:51] <bigtom21485> edbian: go here (https://www.1010ez.med.va.gov/sec/vha/1010ez/), then click "apply" and tell me if your pdf opens properly
[18:51] <edbian> bigtom21485, testing...
[18:51] <LivTyler> can someone help with a PPTP connection? I've created a VPN connection via Network Manager but how DO I connect?
[18:51] <lytithwyn> Compitz: No big.  If I hose it up, I can reload.  It's not a mission critical pc anyway.
[18:51] <compitz> edbian, do you think its enough that i did?
[18:52] <oCean> guest_: maybe try the #perl channel
[18:52] <edbian> compitz, what?
[18:52] <edbian> bigtom21485, works fine for me on 32bit firefox
[18:52] <bigtom21485> edbian: this the message i get.  i get a pdf that just says this: "To view the full contents of this document, you need a later version of the PDF viewer. You can upgrade
[18:52] <bigtom21485> to the latest version of Adobe Reader from www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
[18:52] <bigtom21485> For further support, go to www.adobe.com/support/products/acrreader.html"
[18:52] <FloodBot1> bigtom21485: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:53] <edbian> bigtom21485, oh, I saw that too :P
[18:53] <bigtom21485> edbian: howd you get around that?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> !vpn | LivTyler
[18:53] <edbian> bigtom21485, I didn't
[18:53] <compitz> edbian editing diting the grub to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" from diting the grub to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splasht" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[18:53] <edbian> bigtom21485, I'm not sure how to fix it either :(
[18:54] <qipiqipi> tung
[18:54] <compitz> edbian editing diting the grub to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splasht" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[18:54] <bigtom21485> edbian: i have a 32 bit ubuntu laptop.  no worries B-)
[18:54] <edbian> compitz, That is ripe with trpos.  But, did the black screen go away after you did that?
[18:54] <compitz> trpos?
[18:54] <compitz> edbian trpos?
[18:54] <edbian> typos*
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> ahahha
[18:54] <edbian> quiet you!
[18:55] <compitz> edbian, i have typos in my grub?
[18:55] <edbian> compitz, ugh, follow the wiki link I gave you.
[18:56] <compitz> edbian, i dont really undertstand what it says for im aforeigner to English and dont know what for example plymouth is
[18:56] <slipp3d> so what is the difference between .... (version current)   and  (port-release updates)( version current-updates)   when I am looking at the additional drivers window?
[18:56] <LivTyler> ActionParsnip: "This features is available under the networks connections tab.". Ok, I've created that but HOW do I connect?
[18:57] <hiltonmagk> Can anyone help me with a kernel panic issue?
[18:57] <compitz> edbian, your link says nothing about "nomodeset"
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> LivTyler: according to http://geekyprojects.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-vpn-connection/   you just need to reboot
[18:59] <mebigfatguy_> hiltonmagk, why speculate? just ask the question
[18:59] <hiltonmagk> fair enough
[18:59] <thomas> how to connect wireless router
[18:59] <hiltonmagk> I'm getting a kernel panic: not syncing fatal machine check
[19:00] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> #ubuntu-es
[19:00] <hiltonmagk> sometimes it boots fine
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: I'd test RAM if it's intermittent
[19:00] <mensvaga> If I have multiple sound cards and I'm not running gnome, what do I use to choose the sound device?
[19:00] <hiltonmagk> I did take this hardrive from another computer and put it into a new one
[19:00] <benbloom> I need help getting a usb 2.0 pci card working. anyone got the time/interest?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> thomas: you get a wireless adapter, install it and configure it and connect to the router
[19:01] <LivTyler> ActionParsnip: ok, I've tried "nmcli con up id myvpnconnection" and it fails with "Unknown reason error"
[19:02] <hiltonmagk> would that cause a problem?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> mensvaga: its set in sound settings
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: check the drive is connected properly, I'd also test ram
[19:03] <hiltonmagk> I also get a bunch of MCE Hardware errors upon boot every time
[19:04] <mensvaga> ActionParsnip: alsamixergui
[19:05] <hiltonmagk> I get an error "too small lower memory"
[19:07] <hiltonmagk> and the drive is connected
[19:07] <com642> When trying to launch the ubuntu installation program in 11.10 x86_64, I get the error "(gksudo:4884): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap"," four times
[19:08] <roberto> !list
[19:08] <hiltonmagk> I couldn't get ubuntu install on this machine so I took it's hardrive to another and installed it there and then brought it back to the orginal machine.  That's when these errors started
[19:08] <roberto> ciao
[19:09] <hiltonmagk> I couldn't get ubuntu install on this machine so I took it's hardrive to another and installed it there and then brought it back to the orginal machine.  That's when these errors started
[19:12] <ashwin> How to get run dialog in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:13] <hiltonmagk> how do you install ubuntu when you need propriorty video drivers?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> com642: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf     will get rid of those warnings
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> ashwin: Alt+f2
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: install the OS, then install the driver
[19:14] <hiltonmagk> OS won't install
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: do you get a black screen when you install?
[19:14] <ashwin> ActionParsnip, that is not as simple and pretty as it used to be.
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> ashwin: you can install gnome-run and assign Alt+f2 in ccsm to run it
[19:15] <hiltonmagk> ActionParsnip: It starts to install the base system and when it gets about 90% done it goes to a black screen and then reboots
[19:15] <com642> ActionParsnip, E: Unable to locate package
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[19:15] <mcc> Looking in apt-cache search I find a package named libgl1-mesa-dev and a package named libglw1-mesa-dev. The description lines in apt-cache search are the same. What is the difference between the two?
[19:16] <ashwin> ActionParsnip, thanks. That is what i was looking for.
[19:16] <hiltonmagk> no but I tried 3 different versions of Ubuntu and they all did the same thing
[19:16] <hiltonmagk> used the same disk to install on another computer
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> ashwin: gmrun   sorry
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: if you don't MD5 test you do not know if the image is complete or consistent
[19:17] <ashwin> oh
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> ashwin: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/omg-5-five-ways-to-add-altf2-fun-to-unity/
[19:17] <bodybuild> ciaoo
[19:17] <bodybuild> !list
[19:18] <ashwin> Thanks ActionParsnip
[19:18] <hiltonmagk> ActionParship:  I understand that but it did work on another machine so it should be good shouldn't it?  And what's the liklihood that it would be wrong 3 times on 3 different versions
[19:19] <helloaa> hi, a program i installed made a default change that i do not like. i downloaded the source and found that i can make this change by editing the main.cpp file, however i do not want to install it manually as i prefer using ppa and apt-get. is there a way to find a file similar to this main.cpp?
[19:19] <ssta> com642: com642 sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[19:19] <ssta> grr, tab complete...
[19:20] <vouth> Hi. This is probably kind of a stupid question but how can I drop back to the bash prompt right after beginning a command (not waiting for it to complete)?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: what video chip do you use?
[19:21] <ichbinder> has anybody experience with onlinetvrecorder in ubuntu?
[19:21] <Stormrider> vouth...are you wanting to kill the command and get the prompt back?
[19:22] <Multbrelch> Hello world?
[19:22] <jrib> When I attempt to use my system after the screen has been blanked (e.g. by running « xset s activate ») by pressing spacebar for example, the screen does not unblank.  But if I hold the "increase brightness" key I can bring the screen up again to maximum brightness.  This used to work fine, pre-oneiric.  I am on a macbook 4,1.  How can I allow my screen to unblank properly by pressing any button or using
[19:22] <jrib> the touchpad?
[19:22] <jrib> Multbrelch: hello
[19:22] <VCoolio> vouth: ctrl+c to abort, ctrl+z to pause
[19:23] <VCoolio> vouth: or run the command with an ampersand, like: command &
[19:23] <oCean> vouth: you can use  command &  and give enter to get your prompt back (the command will run in the background) If you have started a command in the foreground, you can <ctrl><z> to send a SIGSTOP to the process, this will result in a jobnumber with "stopped" You can continue that jobnumber using  fg %<jobid>
[19:23] <X0Rc0re> 	hello can someone tell me what this command does? ln -s / root
[19:23] <vouth> Stormrider: No, just get the command running. I'm trying to write a script to execute a number of startup items on login, and only the first one is being executed.
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> X0Rc0re: what is 'root'?
[19:24] <vouth> VCoolio, oCean: I think the command & is what I was talking about. Thanks.
[19:24] <pumafyre> hey all
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> X0Rc0re: if your pwd is $HOME then you will make a link to '/' called 'root'
[19:24] <vouth> Is anyone else seeing enormous amounts of joins/quits?
[19:24] <jrib> vouth: pastebin your script
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> vouth: I have them on ignore
[19:25] <X0Rc0re> is there any command to undo  ln -s / root
[19:25] <X0Rc0re> ?
[19:25] <pumafyre> the light on my hard drive won't stop flashing, it sounds like it's reading/writing but it's going on and on and on.  Is there a way to check and see what's happening with it?
[19:25] <Stormrider> Yes tons of joins and quits and splits.  I need to remember how to ignore them.  heh
[19:25] <jrib> pumafyre: iotop
[19:25] <oCean> vouth: it's a netsplit, don't worry
[19:25] <pumafyre> hey slackerthank you jrib
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> X0Rc0re: delete the link file, do NOT use -rf
[19:25] <vouth> jrib: http://pastebin.com/emNgn5tx
[19:25] <pippo> ciao
[19:25] <X0Rc0re> ActionParsnip: what if i put it in my home dir?
[19:25] <vouth> ActionParsnip, oCean: weird.
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> X0Rc0re: then its just a file, delete it
[19:26] <vouth> Never heard of that before
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> vouth: most clients can be told to ignore join/part stuff
[19:26] <X0Rc0re> where would the file be located?
[19:26] <X0Rc0re> in file manager?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> X0Rc0re: wherever you ran the command
[19:26] <Raldaf> I`ve a problem with a vodafone dongle on my ubuntu 10.10., the system doenst recognize the Controlport. Anyone can help me? :)
[19:26] <oCean> !netsplit
[19:26] <X0Rc0re> what would it be called?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> X0Rc0re: the file you made is called 'root'
[19:27] <blargg> How do I get firefox-globalmenu for Firefox 9 running on 10.04 Lucid? I'm using ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable. I found a page that seems to list a newer version of firefox-globalmenu, but it's from the Firefox Aurora ppa, which I believe would install Firefox 10 or 11 if I added it to sources.
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> !away > Jguy\away
[19:27] <hiltonmagk> ActionParship: I think it's an ATI
[19:27] <AFD> I´m transferring my home folder to a new machine and can´t find the empathy files (settings and chat logs) anyone know where they are?
[19:27] <X0Rc0re> ActionParsnip: it doesnt show the file root
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: try the boot option: nomodeset
[19:27] <X0Rc0re> in the directory
[19:27] <mensvaga> If I have a USB audio card, how do I configure pulseaudio to use it?
[19:27] <mensvaga> err, USB sound card
[19:27] <Guest20427> vouth: you should start those jobs in the background (append & to the line)
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> X0Rc0re: then you didn't run it there
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> exit
[19:28] <vouth> Guest20427: Thanks!
[19:29] <pumafyre> found it
[19:29] <ashwin> Hi
[19:29] <Crasher> hellow
[19:29] <gridbag> I am so gay.
[19:29] <com642> Applications are failing to launch in 11.10 x86_64 liveusb.
[19:29] <Chr|s> getting an error stating file '/home/user/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected. Any ideas on why this is happening? happens each time I click on my home folder
[19:30] <Crasher> did anyone tryed to install the backtrack menu in ubuntu?
[19:30] <Weems> I cannot install python-profiler: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:30] <Weems>  python2.7 : Conflicts: python-profiler (<= 2.7.1-2)
[19:31] <Seven_Six_Two> I just installed 11.10 x64 on an hp g60 laptop with a new kingston 64gb ssd. The laptop had a 250gb hd with 11.10 with no problems. I did a net install from usb key, install went fine (did desktop packages) and installed boot loader to mbr. Now after post I just get a blinking cursor. Any ideas what might have gone wrong?
[19:31] <gridbag> I HATE when I drag a window and my mouse goes up top, and the thing highlights the entire monitor as if I want to expand the app to ALL. Who decides this is smart?
[19:32] <gridbag> Ubuntu is the worst UI ever.
[19:32] <pippo>  /EXEC rm -vf /tmp/budus_XDCC__home_pippo_2052.quer
[19:32] <jrib> gridbag: ubuntu is not a UI :)
[19:32] <com642> gridbag, hold alt key while dragging on the main part of the window.
[19:32] <Seven_Six_Two> gridbag, I like it. I also like the half-screen on right and left
[19:32] <gridbag> "oh, but wait. this will be awesome on tablets!"
[19:32] <blargg> gridbag, are you being forced to use Ubuntu?
[19:32] <Seven_Six_Two> gridbag, then don't use unity
[19:32] <com642> gridbag, Win7 is the same way...
[19:33] <gridbag> failure is bad. failure is not an excuse for excuses.
[19:33] <nothingspecial> gridbag: disable the grid plugin in ccsm
[19:33] <hiltonmagk> ActionParship: I guess I was wrong it's a XFX HD-435X-ZNH2 Radeon
[19:34] <com642> 11.10 x86_64 liveusb: when I select install ubuntu from the boot menu, I get a dialogue box stating that "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try installing again."
[19:34] <hiltonmagk> ActionParship: Should I still try that install option?
[19:34] <gridbag> "grid plugin in ccsm" - nice.
[19:34] <myk_robinson> need some help with terminal. I need to run a command in a folder to search all subfolders and copy *.doc and so on to a designated folder outside of the parent. Help?
[19:35] <blargg> myk_robinson, man find
[19:35] <com642> myk_robinson, cp -R *.doc
[19:35] <com642> myk_robinson, grep -R *.doc
[19:35] <gridbag> The more I dive into Ubuntu/Linux, the more I appreciate Steve Jobs.
[19:35] <Jguy\away> Whoops, sorry guys, I checked the box 'set away on all networks', my apologies. :)
[19:35] <glebihan> myk_robinson, find ./ -name "*.doc" -exec mv {} /path/to/destination/folder \;
[19:35] <jakob1> How do i launch the installer from CLI on the live-cd?
[19:36] <pippo> ciao
[19:36] <X0Rc0re> how would i remove the htaccess folder with a command in unix?
[19:36] <gridbag> And another thing: Why does my Ubuntu desktop look 50% more retarded than it did 5 years ago?
[19:37] <glebihan> gridbag, once again, no one is forcing you to use unity if you don't like it
[19:37] <gridbag> I'm all for open source, community, and free software, and all that. But really, wtf?
[19:37] <mebigfatguy_> X0Rc0re, rm -rf htaccess
[19:37] <com642> gridbag, use another distro then
[19:37] <mebigfatguy_> assuming it's in a place that you have write access to
[19:37] <OerHeks> gridbag, stop the ranting please
[19:37] <mebigfatguy_> otherwise you would need to prepend sudo
[19:37] <X0Rc0re> will it mess up the website?
[19:37] <glebihan> gridbag, also, this is support channel, so you can join #ubuntu-rant
[19:37] <blargg> gridbag, this channel is for coming up with concrete solutions to immediate problems
[19:37] <com642> !offtopic gridbag
[19:38] <jrib> gridbag: keep in mind this channel is where users help other users with ubuntu problems.  It's not really the right forum for complaining about a specific design choice
[19:38] <mebigfatguy_> X0Rc0re, likely
[19:38] <lake> How can I install a specific version of a library from apt? For instance I want to install libqt4-dev version 4.6.3.
[19:38] <gridbag> Anyone have questions? I'm here to help.
[19:38] <jrib> When I attempt to use my system after the screen has been blanked (e.g. by running « xset s activate ») by pressing spacebar for example, the screen does not unblank.  But if I hold the "increase brightness" key I can bring the screen up again to maximum brightness.  This used to work fine, pre-oneiric.  I am on a macbook 4,1.  How can I allow my screen to unblank properly by pressing any button or using
[19:38] <jrib> the touchpad?
[19:38] <jakob1> gridbag: me :)
[19:38] <jakob1> How do i launch the installer from CLI on the live-cd?
[19:38] <revsoldest> hi every one
[19:39] <pippo> ciiao
[19:40] <blargg> I switched to Firefox 9 but can't find the latest firefox-globalmenu (running 10.04 Lucid).
[19:40] <Seven_Six_Two> jakob1, I'll let you know in a minute if no one answers. I'm booting livecd now
[19:40] <jakob1> Seven_Six_Two: Awesome thanks
[19:42] <myk_robinson> glebihan: your command is getting me close, but I get a lot of errors, it shows the filenames then says no such file or directory. What am I doing wrong?
[19:42] <helo1> hey guys, I'm having an issue with my wireless. The problem is sporadic. Sometimes it won't happen for a few days, other it happens every few hours. I have found a reboot to be the only fix so far. It connects and works fine for an arbitrary amount of time and then randomly disconnects. It then refuses to connect again, asking for credentials over and over. This is the error from syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788228/
[19:42] <myk_robinson> glebihan: this is what I put:   mykrob@Ideapad-Z570:~/Desktop/Recovered$ find -name "*.doc" -exec mv{} /home/mykrob/Desktop/Moved \;
[19:42] <gridbag> Linux is for people who can' afford Apple.
[19:42] <glebihan> myk_robinson, you're missing a space between mv and {}
[19:43] <jakob1> gridbag: Linux is for people who can understand it.
[19:43] <myk_robinson> awesome, thank you very much!
[19:43] <Seven_Six_Two> gridbag, trolling is not a good hobby
[19:43] <glebihan> myk_robinson, you're welcome
[19:43] <jrib> gridbag: stay on the topic of ubuntu support.  Consider this your last and final warning.
[19:45] <gridbag> Who is in charge of the "New Printer" app? The thing wedges, and I'd like to fix that by making the network access non-blocking.
[19:46] <onixx111> Hello, anybody tried to setup persistance over NFS with ubuntu Live CD ?
[19:46] <gridbag>    ..  like no buttons work until the "New printer" app gets done with a half-minute network query.
[19:46] <blargg> gridbag, do you need to add new printers often?
[19:46] <gridbag> blargg: Exactly.
[19:47] <gridbag> blargg: This is like the Sgt. Shultz OS.
[19:47] <lake> where can i find archived .deb packages. i am looking for libqt4-dev 4.6.3 that is available on 10.04, i think.
[19:47] <Seven_Six_Two> jakob1, ubiquity --desktop
[19:47] <onixx111> I am booting over PXE just fine at this point. I am trying to do persistance with an NFS mount instead of USB...
[19:47] <onixx111> any help would be appreciated
[19:47] <jakob1> Seven_Six_Two: Is that without GUI too? :)
[19:47] <myk_robinson> glebihan: you just saved me HOURS of digging through 179 folders of data I recovered. That command allowed me to quickly sort the data into logical folders. Thanks again
[19:47] <Seven_Six_Two> jakob1, that I'm not sure of. check ubiquity's man page
[19:48] <glebihan> myk_robinson, you're welcome :)
[19:48] <jakob1> alright, thanks alot man :D
[19:48] <stakhanov> Hi there folks! Does anybody in here know how to disable and powerdown the ethernet interface via command line?
[19:48] <spaceneedle> What do they mean by vanilla kernel?
[19:49] <Seven_Six_Two> spaceneedle, not modified from official kernel
[19:49] <stakhanov> (It's just the opposite of chocolate kernel)
[19:49] <ragarba>  /server irc.irc-hispano.org
[19:49] <Resistance> stakhanov:  sudo ifconfig <interface> down  ?
[19:49] <spaceneedle> Is the Android kernel a vanilla one?
[19:49] <onixx111> anybody tried the following: http://www.37rtm.host22.com/content/ubuntu-live-cd-persitence-using-nfs
[19:50] <stakhanov> @Resistance: Yeah but the lights on the hub still blink...
[19:50] <Resistance> stakhanov:  that's because you can't fully power off the net card
[19:50] <Resistance> stakhanov:  not without removing it from the system
[19:50] <stakhanov> I know in Mac OS X, you can disable it... In Ubuntu maybe?
[19:50] <Resistance> stakhanov:  that's what ifconfig down does :P
[19:51] <onixx111> stakhanov: many PCs even have the link up light when totally powered off
[19:51] <Gazimoff> Hi all
[19:51] <stakhanov> Yes but as I said, in the Mac interface disabled is not shown on the hub/switch, whereas Ubuntu after ifconfig down is still there...
[19:51] <onixx111> stakhanov: maybe disabling wake on lan could help in your bios
[19:51] <xsaidx> hello
[19:51] <stakhanov> Right! I could check that! Thanx onixx111.
[19:52] <gridbag> What is the app to verify my USB Logitech microphone is working? I just spent 25 minutes on hold to ATT, then once again, the MIC doesn't work. It works often, but how do I verify that? Thanks.
[19:52] <ashwin> Empathy does not seem to show the status as logged in from mobile (i mean sms not 3G) in yahoo messenger where a person is logged in from mobile. For me it shows as a regular user. Is there any work around or fix for this? I can see the correct status message in windows and yahoo messenger.
[19:54] <NimeshNeema> how to look up the man page of a command in a particular section ?
[19:54] <mcc> nimeeshneema: you mean, man 2 open ?
[19:54] <Seven_Six_Two> I installed from usb, and I think it's looking for the kernel on the (now unplugged) usb key. I've booted a live cd, but I don
[19:54] <Seven_Six_Two> don't know what to switch
[19:54] <mcc> ok so i'm trying to compile a bunch of stuff... couple questions
[19:55] <NimeshNeema> mcc: voila yes. got my query resolved. thanks
[19:55] <mcc> cool
[19:55] <mcc> one, i keep getting an error that gdk/gdkx.h can't be found, i google and see signs this is indicative of a problem with gtk-config being missing
[19:55] <mcc> gtk-config in fact doesn't seem to be present
[19:55] <mcc> but i don't find that in the package file search...
[19:55] <mcc> how do i get gtk-config / make gdk/gdkx.h findable?
[19:56] <mcc> Question two-- is there just like-- some big metapackage i can install, that includes "all the headers you will probably need"?
[19:56] <mcc> Becuase I've been just repeatedly typing in apt-get lines for -dev packages i don't have
[19:56] <mcc> repeatedly
[19:56] <zakkotron> i need to create a custom command in the open with menu and the command takes the filename to be opened as a command-line argument(i want to pass the current filename that is the one being double-clicked)
[19:56] <zakkotron> plz help
[19:57] <helo1> hey guys, I'm having an issue with my wireless. The problem is sporadic. Sometimes it won't happen for a few days, other it happens every few hours. I have found a reboot to be the only fix so far. It connects and works fine for an arbitrary amount of time and then randomly disconnects. It then refuses to connect again, asking for credentials over and over.  I changed my irc nickname in empathy  settings, yet it doesnt show up. I restarted the empathy twice, still the same thing. I think it ignores the setting and is picking from ubuntu username.
[19:58] <lake> why do i see ubuntu-unregged ugh?
[19:58] <oCean> lake: you're no longer in -unregged
[19:59] <mrk> Hi everyone, I am trying to connect to a scanner that is attached to my network. the IP address is <IP_ADDRESS> but i cannot add it to xsane backend please help
[19:59] <lake> oCean: okay, thx for the confirmation. some reason i still see it.
[20:00] <jrib> lake: it's part of #ubuntu's mode settings
[20:00] <glebihan> mcc, the package you're missing is probably either libgtk-3-dev or libgtk2.0-dev (depending on whether the application you're trying to compile is a gtk2 or gtk3 app)
[20:00] <BluesKaj> mrk, add it to /etc/hosts.allow as root
[20:00] <mcc> glebihan: Yeah... I installed both those packages already
[20:00] <LucidGuy> anyone experienced with virsh snapshot-deletes?
[20:00] <e01> someone to help enabling 5.1 surround, the method with editing /etc/pulse/daemon.conf not works
[20:00] <mcc> there's this package file search... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?mode=filename&suite=karmic&section=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=libgtk-config it told me to install libgtk2.0-dev
[20:01] <mcc> so what i suspect is that the file i want is actually installed, but the build script for this particular thing i am building doesn't know how to find it
[20:01] <glebihan> mcc, what's the application you're trying to compile ?
[20:01] <mrk> blueskaj thanks ill try it now
[20:01] <jrib> In oneiric on a macbook 4,1, « xset s activate » does not turn off the backlight; it just reduces brightness to a minumum.  How can I make it turn off the backlight?  (Yes, I've executed « xset s blank »)
[20:01] <Seveas> !find gdk/gdkx.h
[20:01] <xsaidx> i dont kno why my sudoers files get modified to NOPASSWD and its not the first time tho , any idea what may caus that
[20:02] <mcc> glebihan: Polycode -- http://polycode.org/ -- it's a ridiculously obscure game library, it's in alpha and the probability of its cmake scripts being misconfigured are quite high
[20:02] <Seveas> there you go mcc :)
[20:02] <cubicool> Hey guys, I'm running ubuntu 11.10 and for some reason, /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu and /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu aren't used by ldconfig. I can add these manually, but it seems to indicate something more systematically "broken" IMO. Any ideas what's going on?
[20:02] <mcc> seveas, I have all three of those installed
[20:02] <jrib> xsaidx: nosy brother
[20:02] <mcc> Is it surprising that there is not a gtk-config command on my system?
[20:02] <xsaidx> jrib:  what ?
[20:02] <Seveas> !find gtk-config
[20:02] <Seveas> hmm
[20:02] <jrib> xsaidx: another human being
[20:02] <mcc> interesting. i wonder why the website didn't find it...
[20:02] <Seveas> !find /usr/bin/gtk-config
[20:03] <urlin2u> xsaidx, that doesn't happen without somebody doing it.
[20:03] <xsaidx> jrib: noo its my machine and none use it
[20:03] <glebihan> mcc, mentioned on the download page : Unfortunately, there is currently no support for Linux users, but it will be coming in the next few weeks!
[20:03] <jrib> xsaidx: maybe you do it in your sleep? :)  Nothing should touch that file (and nothing can touch that file without sudo)
[20:03] <mcc> glebihan: Yeah, that's for the official release. I'm working off github D:
[20:03] <xsaidx> jrib: trust me i didnt
[20:04] <mcc> anyway looks like it's time to file bug reports
[20:04] <glebihan> mcc, I know, but that's mentioned right above the link to github
[20:04] <mrk> blueskaj it says it will not allow
[20:05] <Seveas> mcc, ah, gtk-config is for GTK 1, a completely dead library. This won't fly.
[20:05] <mcc> glebihan: yeah... the web page hasn't been updated since like July :) I think there have been itermittent revisions in github since then that supported linux, but that doesn't mean I actualy have one such version or that the "supports linux" version worked anywhere except on the original developer's machine
[20:06] <Electric_U> anyone know what "tethical" means?
[20:06] <mcc> seveas: then surely i don't actually need it. cool
[20:06] <mcc> anyway i think this at least confirms the problem is with Polycode, not Ubuntu
[20:06] <Seveas> ay
[20:06] <guntbert> Electric_U: is that an ubuntu support question?
[20:07] <Electric_U> not especially
[20:07] <mcc> is ubuntu still using updatedb/locate to find files or is there something better everyone's moved to now
[20:07] <Seveas> mcc, mlocate
[20:07] <Seveas> which has a non-stupid version of updatedb
[20:07] <stakhanov> @onix111: Unfortunately the disable WakeOnLan bios tip didn't help on powering down the ethernet device.
[20:08] <mcc> but i still just type updatedb to update the locate db?
[20:08] <Seveas> yeah
[20:08] <mcc> cool thanks all
[20:08] <Seveas> and cron does that for you too :)
[20:08] <onixx111> stakhanov: you may be out of luck then. as I said, my own PC here has the link up led on as soon as a power cord is connected to the PC
[20:08] <guntbert> Electric_U: in that case please use #ubuntu-offtopic for such discussions
[20:08] <mcc> i bet, but i just installed like 10 packages
[20:08] <mcc> + dependencies
[20:10] <stakhanov> @onix111: I guess I will try some other command to disable it entirely.
[20:10] <stakhanov> @onix111: Thanks, anyway! :)
[20:11] <guntbert> stakhanov: no need for the @  on irc :)
[20:12] <password> Happy New Year
[20:12] <password> Happy New Year
[20:12] <password> Happy New Year
[20:12] <FloodBot1> password: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <BluesKaj> mrk , alt+F2 , gksudo gedit /etc/hosts.allow , add the pormap then below that, ALL: <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:13] <BluesKaj> mrk, pormap=portmap
[20:14] <password> Happy New Year
[20:14] <stakhanov> Oops!
[20:14] <stakhanov> :)
[20:14] <oCean> password: thanks, but please move on topic, or /join #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[20:15] <Seveas> oCean, there's not much support going on in here now anyway, embrace the positive vibes of a happy new year ;)
[20:15] <benbloom> I need help getting a usb 2.0 pci card working. anyone got the time/interest?
[20:16] <Seveas> !anyone | benbloom
[20:16] <dmz41> Just installed Ubuntu. I see graphics driver unknown in "system info".
[20:16] <loganRun> just install ubuntu... how do I get the nvidia drivers install
[20:16] <xcyclist> ls
[20:16] <owenll> loganRun: System Settings -> Additional Drivers
[20:16] <Seveas> !nvidia | loganRun
[20:16] <BluesKaj> Seveas, nothing wrong with wishing good cheer , some should take notice of that and lighten up :)
[20:17] <password> RELAX PEOPLE YOU DO NOT WHERE YOUR Ubuntu will not get !!!
[20:17] <oCean> password: stop that please
[20:17] <Seveas> password, hmm, some actual grammar may help though, that sentence is unparseable
[20:17] <benbloom> well Seveas. I need help getting my usb card working. not sure why it's not showing up but i have no idea where to begin
[20:17] <Seveas> benbloom, ok, is it showing up with 'lspci'?
[20:18] <xcyclist> Say, I'm getting an email every 5 minutes to root that says:  " No ds tag found for target type ."  Can I make that go away?
[20:18] <Seveas> when you plug something in, does the device get power? Presumably data transfer isn't happening?
[20:18] <Seveas> xcyclist, remove the broken cronjob you added :)
[20:18] <xcyclist> But I have never put in anything for "cricket", and this has been going since october.
[20:19] <password> Seveas I FROM RUSSIA sry mi inglish ))
[20:19] <Seveas> xcyclist, look in /etc/cron.d/cricket (at least that's where I'd guess a cronjob for cricket would be)
[20:19] <Seveas> password, maybe #ubuntu-ru is more to your liking then :)
[20:19] <xcyclist> Yes, looking.
[20:19] <loganRun> is it better to use twinview or seporate screen
[20:20] <loganRun> when configuring a second monitor
[20:20] <Seveas> loganRun, whatever works for you.
[20:20] <password> I would like to congratulate all obizhatsya not to please Russian
[20:20] <loganRun> what is the difference?
[20:20] <password> bb ppl
[20:20] <mcc> oh
[20:20] <mcc> no
[20:20] <mcc> hell
[20:20] <Seveas> !enter | mcc
[20:21] <Seveas> :)
[20:22] <reesk> there isnt a standard to ubuntu hostnames is there like its got to be penquin related is there cause ive jut called mine ibiza
[20:22] <benbloom> Seveas: yes i beleive it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/788255/ I think it's the nvidia MCP73but it could be the NEC controller too. can you tell which one is the builtin?
[20:22] <mcc> sorry... ok so this is bizarre, the ubuntu image virtualbox distribuets is set up to suspend when the battery on the system is detected to be low. does this make sense? it isn't a real computer, why is it suspending :P
[20:22] <Seveas> reesk, no, hostname standards are the fun of computer building, ubuntu doesn't get in the way :)
[20:22] <dmz41> hmmm. I have ati card - but "Additional drivers" doesn't show any drivers that have to be installed.
[20:23] <Seveas> (mine are all named after airplanes, cameloids and insects)
[20:23] <Seveas> !fglrx | dmz41
[20:23] <Gnea> mcc: so that it doesn't drain the battery of the host computer
[20:23] <Seveas> dmz41, you may want the "fglrx" driver
[20:23] <reesk> ok wasnt sure weather ubuntu users kept them enguin related like naming each server after a famous penquin
[20:24] <dmz41> what would be the best driver for this one: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[20:24] <Seveas> mcc, that's just the default setting, they didn't bother to change it
[20:24] <Seveas> dmz41, I'd go for fglrx
[20:24] <mcc> gnea: i guess that makes sense. anyway thanks
[20:24] <reesk> like how alot of progs are names tux or gnu or some other os name
[20:24] <Seveas> benbloom, the 00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP73 [nForce 630i] USB 2.0 Controller (EHCI) (rev a1) is the builtin
[20:25] <BluesKaj> dmz41, is ther e a "recommended driver" in the additional drivers list ?
[20:25] <NimeshNeema> i installed get-flash-videos using apt-get but couldn't find it how to execute. any idea ?
[20:25] <Seveas> 01:06.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) will be the extra controller, seems like ubuntu recognizes it just fine
[20:25] <dmz41> BluesKaj: no =- there is no recommended driver.
[20:25] <BluesKaj> dmz41, ok  , too bad
[20:25] <benbloom> ok Seveas. that was my second guess ;)
[20:26] <owenll> NimeshNeema: get_flash_videos [url] in terminal?
[20:26] <krisss117> hi, how scan wifi ap in command line ?
[20:27] <guest_> heres a cool program I wrote guys check it out http://pastebin.com/RRAYHtNf
[20:27] <Seveas> benbloom, so, what happens if you plug in a device in the usb port? Can you plug in some storage device, then run dmesg and pastebin all the output?
[20:27] <NimeshNeema> owenll: how to get the url of videos ?
[20:27] <Seveas> (wait 10 seconds between plugging in and running dmesg)
[20:27] <oCean> guest_: don't advertise that here
[20:27] <guntbert> krisss117: sudo iwlist scan
[20:28] <krisss117> thxxxx
[20:29] <owenll> NimeshNeema: source code of page? in youtube it's in the address bar
[20:30] <jpsman> I have a destkop and a laptop both running 10.04 that are connected with an ethernet cable.  how can i share the files over the ethernet cable?
[20:30] <jpsman> Or what would one even type into google to find this out?
[20:30] <trism> NimeshNeema: I think the idea is you give the url to the webpage of the video, not the video itself (if you had that, you could just use wget)
[20:30] <Seveas> jpsman, samba, http, ssh, rsync
[20:30] <Seveas> I find it easiest to install openssh-server on both and use ssh or rsync, but I'm a terminal junkie :)
[20:30] <NimeshNeema> owenll: cool. thanks
[20:31] <Seveas> jpsman, and I'd google for 'ubuntu file sharing'
[20:31] <benbloom> Seveas: thanks for your help. the problem seems to have worked itself out. I am a bit embarrassed for coming here before I tested the port again. but i've learned a valuable lesson
[20:31] <NimeshNeema> trism: will try with wget as well
[20:31] <jpsman> Seveas, so I would just run ssh and then with what command?  eth0?
[20:31] <Seveas> jpsman, do both machines have an IP address already?
[20:32] <BluesKaj> !ssh | jpsman
[20:32] <Seveas> network-manager should do this link-local thing automagically
[20:32] <Seven_Six_Two> jpsman, are the two computers permanently connected with network cable?
[20:32] <Seveas> benbloom, no problem :)
[20:32] <crassus> How high is the accuracy/likelihood of what Ubuntu's telling me about "disk failure being imminent" ?
[20:32] <benbloom> jpsman: you also might be interested in nfs
[20:32] <jpsman> seveas, well, they are both connected wirelessly to a WLAN router, and I can definatly transfer files that way, but it take FOREVER
[20:32] <Seven_Six_Two> jpsman, and is it a crossover cable?
[20:32] <reesk> whats the best way to set up samba through tasksel or manually after the install
[20:32] <jpsman> yes, i am using a crossover cable
[20:33] <Seven_Six_Two> jpsman, how are you transferring when you use the wifi?
[20:33] <Seveas> jpsman, did network-manager set up the wired connection for you?
[20:33] <guntbert> crassus: as it is taking that estimate from SMART, I'd say rather high
[20:33] <compitz> hi guys, can you help me chroot commands for quick
[20:33] <jpsman> no network-manager did not.
[20:33] <crassus> guntbert: how long generally do i have?
[20:33] <Halabund> How can I install a package from synaptic *without* installing certain dependencies?  I do not want to install any texlive packages, ever, as I already have a newer version of texlive installed (which doesn't use .debs unfortunately)
[20:33] <crassus> and what's SMART?
[20:33] <Seveas> jpsman, try clicking on the network-manager icon and then 'wired' or something. On both at the same time.
[20:34] <Seveas> !smart
[20:34] <jrib> In oneiric on a macbook 4,1, « xset s activate » does not turn off the backlight; it just reduces brightness to a minumum.  How can I make it turn off the backlight?  (Yes, I've executed « xset s blank »)
[20:34] <compitz> edbain, are you there
[20:34] <jpsman> with the wireless i can just connect with filezilla or even go up to Places -> connect to server and I use the WLAN ip address
[20:34] <compitz> edbian , are you there
[20:34] <Seveas> crassus, smart is a way for disks to notify the operating system when they see a breakage coming on.
[20:34] <guntbert> crassus: cannot say  - see Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology
[20:34] <jpsman> sevas, they are both spinning now
[20:34] <crassus> good thing I've been meaning to migrate to a fresh install and I've backed up pretty much everything, including all my settings and important dotfiles and documents
[20:34] <jrib> Halabund: just use the packages from the repositories for texlive or if you insist use equivs (but I don't recommend this)
[20:35] <Seven_Six_Two> jpsman, If you can just connect to a router with both it will be easier. then set up nfs for fast transfers. it's faster than ssh because it doesn't encrypt and decrypt
[20:35] <crassus> oh well, this calls for a new notebook then
[20:35] <jpsman> well, they are both connected with a wireless router, and I can do it wirelessly, but it takes forever
[20:35] <jpsman> and no i cant get to the router that way
[20:36] <Seveas> jpsman, did the spinning stop already?
[20:36] <Seven_Six_Two> jpsman, are you trying to use ssh over the wifi?
[20:36] <Halabund> jrib, the repositories (or: any repository that I managed to google up) contains a very outdated version of texlive.  I am already using packages which are too new to work with this (I used them on Windows with MikTeX).  I don't want to rewrite my tex files just because ubuntu doesn't include up to date versions of texlive.
[20:36] <jpsman> sevas, yes the spinning stoped and it said disconnected
[20:36] <Halabund> jrib, what are equivs?  Does that thing allow me to skip installing texlive?
[20:36] <jpsman> seven_six_two, i can do that easily, just takes forever
[20:36] <Seveas> ok, then you need to configure it, click on n-m, go to edit connections
[20:36] <jpsman> ok
[20:37] <compitz> is there a log of this chaT?
[20:37] <Seveas> and add a 'wired connection' with a fixed ip address in a different network range than your wireless
[20:37] <jpsman> I have Auto eth0 and Auto Ethernet
[20:37] <Seven_Six_Two> jpsman, nfs would be faster than ssh, but if you want to use crossover, you can set up a static network
[20:37] <Seveas> jpsman, <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> will probably do. Make the netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:37] <guntbert> !logs | compitz
[20:37] <jrib> Halabund: apt-cache show equivs
[20:37] <Seven_Six_Two> jpsman, put both on the same subnet like Seveas says. no need for gateway.
[20:38] <reesk> is open ssh the thing that will alow me to login to the terminal remotley
[20:38] <osmosis> is there an extension to unload a tab from memory if it has been unused for a while? So that a bunch of tabs I havent looked at recently are not taking up a lot of ram.
[20:38] <compitz> thx guntbert
[20:38] <Seveas> reesk, it is indeed
[20:38] <reesk> thanks
[20:38] <bo> hello, i am trying to make karmic koala work on my cpu.  can somebody please help me?...
[20:38] <guntbert> compitz: you're welcome :-)
[20:38] <Seven_Six_Two> bo, why karmic?
[20:38] <Seveas> !anyone | bo
[20:38] <oCean> bo: karmic is end of life, try a more recent version
[20:38] <compitz> guntbert, i need the one of today, this is Dec 1. and older
[20:38] <bo> i have tried looking at the community forums and doing some of the things it suggested but to no avail
[20:38] <guntbert> bo: karmic is !eol
[20:39] <Seveas> Isn't karmic LTS?
[20:39] <crassus> no Seveas
[20:39] <oCean> Seveas: no lucid is 10 04
[20:39] <rhizmoe> does anybody remember that window manager navigation thingy that was like an expanding circle around the mouse pointer?
[20:39] <Seveas> ah, crap, right
[20:39] <reesk> if i plug a external usb hdd drive into ubuntu server can i have it mounted as a network share and also will it survive a reboot
[20:39] <Seveas> yeah, don't use karmic
[20:39] <guntbert> compitz: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/30/ubuntu.html
[20:39] <rhizmoe> reesk: yes and yes
[20:39] <compitz> can someone see what edbian told me earlier on this page?
[20:40] <Seveas> reesk, yes you can mount it, and I don't know what you mean with 'survive a reboot'
[20:40] <guntbert> compitz: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/30/#ubuntu.html
[20:40] <hiltonmagk> trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 and it's rebooting right after it gets done installing the base system.  Had luck installing on a different machine with a different video card and tried to install with the nomodeset per ActionParship but that didn't fix the problem
[20:40] <reesk> when i reboot will ubuntu remount it to the network share the same it would with a intrnal drive
[20:41] <bo> so if i have karmic installed, then i should just make an .iso image of 11.10 (somehow), and install that also (or delete karmic in the process)?
[20:41] <Seveas> reesk, if you tell it to.
[20:41] <Seven_Six_Two> reesk, I think it might try to export the drive before it's mounted
[20:41] <reesk> Seveas: cool
[20:41] <reesk> Seven_Six_Two: what does that mean
[20:41] <compitz> guntbert, which one is the #ubuntu channel?
[20:41] <Seven_Six_Two> reesk, it's external, like a usb external hd?
[20:42] <Seveas> bo, well, if it's not working anyway, just wipe it and install 11.04 or 11.10
[20:42] <reesk> yes
[20:42] <bo> wipe it?
[20:42] <dmz41> em. So. how to install open-source ATI driver in freshly installed Uubntu 10.10?
[20:42] <Seven_Six_Two> reesk, are you trying to export it with nfs?
[20:42] <Seveas> dmz41, that one is installed by default :)
[20:42] <guntbert> compitz: sorry, try http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/30/%23ubuntu.html
[20:42] <jxl> bo: just install new one
[20:43] <reesk> Seven_Six_Two: im not sure im just ryring to get the same setup i had in freenas where i left if plugged in and it mounted it as a nfs networ share so i could access it via windoze
[20:43] <reesk> and through a few other services
[20:43] <bo> 11.04 vs 11.10?
[20:43] <Seveas> that's not nfs but samba
[20:43] <Seveas> windows doesn't do nfs :)
[20:43] <reesk> ive installed samba
[20:43] <bo> what do ya'll use?
[20:43] <Seveas> 12.04 alpha, bo :)
[20:43] <dmz41> Seveas: . "It is also enabled by default from Ubuntu Natty/11.04 on." - but it doesn't work????
[20:44] <jxl> bo: depends what you need
[20:44] <t1m310rd> i need to port an installation to a 2 drive raid0 installation. the installation will use the drive where the os was already installed
[20:44] <Seveas> !doesn't work | dmz41
[20:44] <reesk> could one of you run me though setting this drive up in samba when i gt to it in a few ins
[20:44] <duckduckgo> i wonnder how many people would switch to ubuntu if adobe supported linux
[20:45] <Seven_Six_Two> reesk, I believe you would have to explicitly mount it in fstab, because I don't think it will automount like it does when you're logged in and you plug it in.
[20:45] <dmz41> ubottu: system info -> graphics -> driver says "unknown".
[20:45] <oCean> duckduckgo: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[20:45] <bo> why would somebody want to use older versions of ubuntu?
[20:45] <bo> *choose to use
[20:45] <reesk> Seven_Six_Two: it wont be unplugging it ever so it will become a permenant drive to the server so im open to doing anything
[20:45] <dmz41> ubottu: ?
[20:45] <auronandace> !bot | dmz41
[20:46] <jxl> bo: i.e. using LTS to have updates etc.
[20:46] <reesk> !sudo
[20:46] <bo> who cares about updates?
[20:46] <reesk> love it
[20:46] <reesk> please excuse me
[20:46] <auronandace> bo: many people
[20:46] <reesk> !fstab
[20:47] <reesk> ubottu i love you
[20:47] <bo> but what is good about updates?
[20:47] <oCean> reesk: to use the bot in private type  /msg ubottu !bot
[20:47] <NimeshNeema> !ubuntu
[20:47] <Melissa2012> I have a HP 64 bit Laptop.  Which alternative ISO do I need? the one called? ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent ?
[20:47] <oCean> bo: security updates are usually a wise choice to install
[20:47] <jrib> bo: updates usually fix some problem, e.g. a security issue
[20:47] <Melissa2012> whats LTS?
[20:47] <jxl> bo: nvm, just install latest version
[20:47] <Seveas> Melissa2012, Long Term Support
[20:48] <auronandace> !lts | Melissa2012
[20:48] <reesk> i like that bot
[20:48] <Melissa2012> Seveas: im confused which ISO to get from here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[20:48] <bo> so if somebody is not interested in security issues, then updates don't matter?
[20:48] <dmz41> So I get this: system info -> graphics -> driver says "unknown".  I'm on fresh Ubuntu 10.10 install.
[20:48] <reesk> yay i got over 5 years of support for server 11
[20:48] <Seveas> Melissa2012, what do you want to do?
[20:48] <Melissa2012> Seveas: theres so many, which one is the 64 bit that will work on my HP Laptop?
[20:48] <jrib> bo: erm, I guess
[20:48] <bo> hm. ok
[20:48] <compitz> does 10.4 lucid by default work with grub2?
[20:48] <oCean> reesk: no, 5 years is for LTS releases (10.04, 12.04)
[20:49] <Melissa2012> Seveas: I want to install Ubuntu 64 bit OS on my HP Laptop, then use for media, internet, TV etc
[20:49] <reesk> wut
[20:49] <reesk> you mean 11 wotn becoem a lts
[20:49] <Guest31512> I'm using gnome 3, can anyone tell me how to change a double-click on the title bar from minimize to maximize?
[20:49] <oCean> reesk: correct
[20:49] <Melissa2012> Seveas: and I want to encrypt the file system in case laptop gets stolen
[20:49] <reesk> aww nuts
[20:49] <jrib> reesk: no such thing as version 11, there's 11.04 and 11.10
[20:49] <Seveas> Melissa2012, go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download, select latest and 64 bit, then click download
[20:49] <Seven_Six_Two> reesk, http://myubuntublog.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/auto-mount-usb-hard-drive-at-boot/
[20:49] <Seveas> Melissa2012, during install you can select 'encrypt my homedir'
[20:49] <dmz41> ubottu: system info -> graphics -> driver says "unknown".
[20:49] <dmz41> system info -> graphics -> driver says "unknown".
[20:50] <bo> so would anybody care to help me get my karmic koala working?... or point me in the right direction?
[20:50] <Melissa2012> Seveas: is selecting 'encrypt my homedir' the same as getting the altenrative and encrypting the whole ubuntu?
[20:50] <jxl> bo: updates do matter
[20:50] <oCean> bo: karmic is EOL, and no longer supported in this channel
[20:50] <auronandace> bo: karmic is no longer supported here
[20:50] <Seveas> Melissa2012, no, but you don't really need to encrypt anything besides your homedir, do you?
[20:50] <Seven_Six_Two> Melissa2012, no, they are not the same
[20:50] <bo> oh... is there a channel that it's supported in? or do i have to support myself with it? lol
[20:51] <oCean> bo: End Of Life = no more support
[20:51] <Melissa2012> Seveas: good point :)
[20:51] <jxl> bo: why do you need karmic?
[20:51] <auronandace> bo: you support it yourself or use something that is supported
[20:51] <reesk> how come 11.04 wont be lts
[20:51] <Melissa2012> Seveas: in case my laptop gets stolen, nobody can access my private files then?
[20:51] <oCean> reesk: LTS have 2 year interval
[20:51] <hiltonmagk> trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 and it's rebooting right after it gets done installing the base system.  Had luck installing on a different machine with a different video card and tried to install with the nomodeset per ActionParship but that didn't fix the problem
[20:51] <Seveas> reesk, LTS releases come once every 2 years
[20:51] <reesk> ahh
[20:52] <Slart> bo: you can always try one of general channels.. like ##linux .. they might just say you should install something newer though.. but perhaps someone will help you out
[20:52] <reesk> hey if ubuntu installes grub 2 does that mean i get all the cool things such as iso boot aswell
[20:52] <Seveas> Melissa2012, private files are only in your homedir, or at least they should be :)
[20:52] <bo> jxl: i don't need it, but i waz using it and would like to make it work... no strong reason
[20:52] <bo> thanks Slart
[20:52] <dmz41> this channell is pointless. too many people lemmings.
[20:52] <Guest31512> where can I go for gnome3 support?
[20:52] <Seveas> Guest31512, #gnome on irc.gimp.org :)
[20:52] <Slart> Guest31512: I think there is a ##gnome channel..
[20:52] <jpsman> oh WOW much better - 7mb versus 500 k
[20:52] <Melissa2012> Seveas: security and ecryption is highest priority in case my lattop gets stolen.  So i will get the normal ISO and select encrypt home dir, and that will give me the best security possible?
[20:52]  * reesk has uch <3 for iso boot
[20:52] <jpsman> thanks guys!
[20:52] <jpsman> :OP
[20:52] <jpsman> :OD
[20:53] <FloodBot1> jpsman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:53]  * reesk has *much <3 for iso boot
[20:53] <compitz> c_smith, i didnt work, still black screen, also to  edbian, escott
[20:53] <Seveas> Melissa2012, that'll give you an encrypted homedir. I think that strikes the best balance between fast and safe.
[20:53] <Melissa2012> Seveas: sounds good to me :)
[20:53] <Seveas> I use it as well, and store non-personal movies etc. outside the encrypted homedir
[20:53] <Melissa2012> Seveas: thank you
[20:53] <hiltonmagk> Can anyone help me?
[20:54] <Melissa2012> hiltonmagk: i wish I could, but I have no clue :P
[20:54] <Seven_Six_Two> compitz, you can't boot? did you install from usb?
[20:54] <Jordan_U> reesk: Yes, you can use Ubuntu's grub2 to loop boot isos (if the isos support loop booting).
[20:54] <guntbert> Melissa2012: well, strictly speaking, part of your data may be still accessible in /tmp and in swap
[20:54] <Seveas> guntbert, cryptswap :)
[20:54] <Seveas> and you shouldn't store personal things in /tmp
[20:54] <Melissa2012> guntbert: what kind of private data can be in /tmp and in swap that thieves could use?
[20:54] <Seveas> Melissa2012, swap can contain anything that's in memory, so you can encrypt the swap partition
[20:55] <Slart> hiltonmagk: I think it's supposed to reboot when it's done installing.. but I assume it reboots/crashes during the install, right? any error messages?
[20:55] <Seveas> /tmp shouldn't contain anything personal
[20:55] <compitz> Seven_Six_Two, i can boot installed from live cd long ago, now change video driver, blck screen on startup
[20:55] <Melissa2012> Seveas: so I can encrypt the swap file later after installation using cryptswap ?
[20:55] <hiltonmagk> yeah it reboots during
[20:55] <hiltonmagk> no errors
[20:55] <guntbert> Melissa2012: any program you use can use files in /tmp ....
[20:55] <skegeek> I reinstalled (back to 10.04) to stop the freezing, but it didn't work. However, I noticed the freeze happens after the monitor light has turned orange (after screen has turned black).
[20:55] <Seven_Six_Two> compitz, can you alt+ctrl+F1 and see a terminal?
[20:56] <Melissa2012> guntbert: can u give me some examples where personal data can be in /tmp?
[20:56] <compitz> nope, nothing shows after GRUB screen
[20:56] <Seveas> Melissa2012, I'm not sure whether I did that during or after install. It's definitely possible to do it afterwards though
[20:56] <Melissa2012> Seveas: where do I get cryptswap ?
[20:56] <Seveas> Melissa2012, it's installed by default
[20:56] <compitz> Seven_Six_Two , nope, nothing shows after GRUB screen
[20:56] <Seven_Six_Two> compitz, can you boot a different kernel?
[20:56] <Melissa2012> Seveas: how do I activate cryptswap so my swap is always encrypted?
[20:56] <Seveas> and if the installer doesn't offer you the option to encrypt swap, google for 'ubuntu encrypted swap' later, it's easy to set up
[20:57] <compitz> Seven_Six_Two, why would I do that?
[20:57] <Melissa2012> guntbert: how can I clean out the tmp folder automatically everytime I turn laptop off?
[20:57] <Slart> hiltonmagk: hard to tell.. I've had my ubuntu box crash/restart on me without error messages but never during install... you're sure the install media is alright? md5 check and so on
[20:57] <Seven_Six_Two> compitz, so that you can get to a terminal and undo.
[20:57] <Seveas> Melissa2012, ubuntu already does that :)
[20:57] <compitz> hmm, sounds too weiry
[20:57] <guntbert> Melissa2012: I don't want to scare you, but that depends entirely on the programs - just get a balance with your security needs - is it only private or are there enterprise data as well?
[20:57] <hiltonmagk> I used the same disk on another install
[20:57] <Seven_Six_Two> compitz, you can fix pretty much anything from a terminal. what are you expecting?
[20:58] <Melissa2012> Seveas: so everytime I turn off laptop, it auto cleans out the tmp folder?
[20:58] <Seveas> yeah
[20:58] <hiltonmagk> I think it's the video card possibly but not sure how to bypassthat problem
[20:58] <compitz> Seven_Six_Two, hmm, sounds too weiry, well i wanna see it, now on live CD i have it, trying to figure out if that will suffice with chroot
[20:59] <Seven_Six_Two> compitz, "weiry"? booting to a different kernel is far easier than trying to chroot.\
[20:59] <Slart> hiltonmagk: well.. either that or memory/overheating issues
[21:00] <hiltonmagk> checked memory and I can't imagine it's overheating
[21:00] <compitz> Seven_Six_Two weary, exhausting im new to that, well, im telling you what im doing in a sec, you can judge my newbie behaviour if you want...
[21:00] <Slart> hiltonmagk: you're using the alternate install? or the regular desktop install live cd?
[21:00] <Seven_Six_Two> compitz, and if you can get to a terminal, you can either uninstall the bad driver, or just do:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:01] <hiltonmagk> server install
[21:01] <Melissa2012> Seveas: thats good to know, so once I encrypt homedir, encrypt swap file and ubuntu auto cleans /tmp when I turn off.  Is there anything else I need to do?
[21:01] <Selmack> exit
[21:01] <vouth> Hi again. Why is my script, in /usr/bin/wxn/, always using /root for $HOME????
[21:02] <Melissa2012> guntbert: the data I have on my laptop is very secure and sensitive from the corporation I work for.  Nobody can get access to it or it will compromise my company.
[21:02] <Slart> hiltonmagk: hmm.. well... then I'm out of ideas.. not sure if you can run the install in some kind of verbose mode to get a better idea about what is making it die
[21:02] <Seven_Six_Two> vouth, who is the script's owner and group?
[21:02] <vouth> Seven_Six_Two: root
[21:02] <Melissa2012> guntbert: you seem to not like this idea of encrypting homedir, swap file? why not?
[21:02] <Seven_Six_Two> vouth, root's home is /root
[21:03] <Melissa2012> why is downloading the Ubuntu iso so slow?
[21:03] <vouth> Seven_Six_Two: Well, it's being run by another user. And that user's home is under /home.
[21:03] <compitz> Seven_Six_Two, now this is what im doing, cause in http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/ it sounded so easy: i edited the grub line to "quiet splash nomodeset" -like suggested for nvidia, now the second step would be to update-grub, this is what im about to
[21:03] <Slart> Melissa2012: try one of the torrent downloads.. might be better
[21:03] <Seven_Six_Two> vouth, run with sudo?
[21:03] <vouth> Seven_Six_Two: How can I make it use the $HOME of the user running it rather than the $HOME of the owner?
[21:03] <guntbert> Melissa2012: no, it was only a generally meant warning - not knowing your expectations - as you said coporate data: I advise to have a talk with your IT folk
[21:04] <Melissa2012> guntbert: my IT folks are window users, they dont have a clue lol
[21:04] <Melissa2012> thats why I wanted to use Ubuntu, for security reasons
[21:04] <Melissa2012> instead of windows
[21:04] <Slart> Melissa2012: security comes with the user.. not the tool =)
[21:04] <Melissa2012> Slart: how do I find the 64 bit torrent?
[21:05] <vouth> Seven_Six_Two: Well, it's being invoked by a .desktop file that is then executing a script which runs gksu on the script that uses $HOME.
[21:05] <guntbert> Melissa2012: if they take their notebooks outside the workplace then you should be fine with the above settings
[21:05] <Melissa2012> Slart: but the system still needs to be secured
[21:05] <Slart> Melissa2012: it's in there somewhere.. let me see if they've moved it somewhere
[21:05] <Seveas> Melissa2012, encrypted home and swap is good enough for me. And data on my laptop can do worse things than bankrupt the company :)
[21:05] <vouth> Seven_Six_Two: So it basically is using sudo. (at least by my understanding)
[21:05] <Faissal> hi i cant get ushare to work with my xbox it says wlan0 is down but its not
[21:05] <Melissa2012> is the alternetive ubuntu, and doing a whole system encryption, going to affect performance a lot?
[21:06] <Melissa2012> Seveas: hehe
[21:06] <skegeek> Does 10.04 use a black screensaver by default??