[06:02] <Mirv> it would be nice if the KF 5.28 was force-allowed in before Qt lands but not strictly necessary as same KDE related forces will be needed for Qt too as long as the KDE autopkgtetss remain enabled but not maintained
[06:13] <valorie> that would help Kubuntu a lot as we try to get the latest Plasma bugfix in as well as applications
[09:40] <acheronuk> Mirv: there will also be at least another whole frameworks upload before any freeze, so FW 5.29 failures are not exactly an irrelevance, but neither are they indicative of what should be shipped
[09:41] <acheronuk> plus there should be new KDE applications landing as well, so where test failures related to the old apps shipped with yakkety, much the same applies
[09:52] <Mirv> yeah the only real problem is overloading autopkgtest infrastructure and letting stuff stay in proposed for months
[09:53] <Mirv> proposed time should be minimized, either by fixing autopkgtests or disabling them if they are not used
[09:56] <acheronuk> Mirv: well, santa is the only person currently on the team who really knows how to fix them, and he has fallen off the planet for the last month and is not responding to emails etc, so the prospect of "fixing" them is fairly slim
[09:57] <acheronuk> is that case continues, then disabling at least the irksome ones may be the way, for FW 5.29, 5.30 etc
[09:58] <acheronuk> not ideal, nut many things are not
[09:58] <acheronuk> *but
[09:59] <Mirv> acheronuk: yes. that's unfortunate but maybe the way that needs to be taken at least for this cycle.
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[14:49] <urulama_> uiteam: jujucharms.com is down
[14:50] <rick_h__> urulama: canonical is kaput
[14:50] <jcsackett> whee
[14:50] <rick_h__> urulama: lost pastebin, irc, etc
[14:50] <urulama> yep
[14:50] <jcsackett> canonical.com is down, so. :p
[14:51] <rick_h__> damn, can't recall the public channel for when this happens
[14:51] <rick_h__> and no canonical wiki to help me out
[14:51] <urulama> canonical-is, isn't it?
[14:51] <rick_h__> didn't work for me
[14:51] <rick_h__> thought so as well but fail
[14:55] <fabrice> irc is failing now
[14:55] <rick_h__> fabrice: all of the things are failing :)
[14:55] <urulama> whole canonical network is down
[14:55] <fabrice> do we have coffee ?
[14:56] <rick_h__> fabrice: I don't know, do you? :)
[14:56] <jcsackett> actually, my coffee pot lid didn't seal this morning and dumped about half of the coffee on the counter...
[14:56] <jcsackett> oh my god EVERYTHING is broken.
[14:56] <fabrice> ahhh panic no coffee!!!
[14:57] <rick_h__> ruh roh
[14:58] <fabrice> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbv5B71KmkA
[14:59] <urulama> btw, don't logout
[14:59] <urulama> USSO is down as well :D
[15:00] <antdillon> ah that makes sense ... all down but ubuntu.com
[15:00] <fabrice> yes I can't run my tests anymore :(
[15:02] <urulama> the irony is ... we're supposed to have a USSO talk right now :)
[15:04] <hatch> lol
[15:15] <urulama> it's alive ... ALIVE!
[15:16] <urulama> http://www.riotgames.com/sites/default/files/Alive.gif


[00:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-qt- New binary: qtwayland-opensource-src [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [5.15.1-3] (kubuntu, qt5)
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 @RikMills [@tsimonq2 I think the ticket publishing from bileto worked, but please double ch …], Looking
[01:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-qt- New binary: qtwayland-opensource-src [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [5.15.1-3] (kubuntu, qt5)
[01:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-qt- New binary: qtwayland-opensource-src [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [5.15.1-3] (kubuntu, qt5)
 Thank you @tsimonq2! All looks fine from the first sight.
 Thank you all! I see that WebKit copied fine :)
 Oh, qtwebengine also needs ruby :(
 good morning
 what's the deal with ruby?
 @Santa [what's the deal with ruby?], Morning! There is a dependency loop between ruby and ruby-rubygems, so neither is installable.
 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebengine-opensource-src/5.15.1+dfsg-5/+build/20219754
 Oh, qt3d needs link with -latomic on riscv64, I forgot to fix it :(
 @mitya57 am I missing something or this package needs to be synced from debian: https://packages.qa.debian.org/r/rubygems.html
 (to fix the ruby problem)
 https://salsa.debian.org/ruby-team/ruby-defaults/-/commit/909f416d20b7939585548d9f3afdf9970b0b2116
 "ruby is uninstallable before ruby-rubygems is actually in the … archive."
 That package is synced. But it's also broken in Debian.
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=972702
 aha
 soy maybe we could ask the archive admins to remove ruby-defaults temprorarily from -proposed ?
 s/soy/so/
 along with the other one (src:rubygems)
 @Santa [soy maybe we could ask the archive admins to remove ruby-defaults temprorarily f …], I asked doko exactly about the same yesterday ;)
 ok, what a mess
 @mitya57 [Thank you all! I see that WebKit copied fine :)], :)
 @mitya57 [Oh, qtwebengine also needs ruby :(], :(
 @mitya57 [I asked doko exactly about the same yesterday ;)], should we progress to asking in #ubuntu-release ?
 @RikMills [should we progress to asking in #ubuntu-release ?], Done
[08:59] <RikMills> great
 I will wait 15 minutes and then retry qtwebengine
 \o/
 thanks
 @mitya57 [I will wait 15 minutes and then retry qtwebengine], then wait 20+ hrs for arm64 😢😂
 It started building!
 :)
 also: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebkit-opensource-src
 needs to be retried at some point
 @Santa [needs to be retried at some point], done
 @RikMills Can you tell me how to move the Qt transitions from planned to ongoing on https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/ ? Or I should ask on #ubuntu-release?
 @mitya57 [@RikMills Can you tell me how to move the Qt transitions from planned to ongoing …], https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-transition-trackers/ubuntu-transition-tracker/configs
 Thanks!
 move the qt files from monitor/planned folder to monitor/ongoing folder
 Pushed https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-transition-trackers/ubuntu-transition-tracker/configs/revision/850, thanks again
 np
 hedgewars failed to install build-dependencies because of some ghc stuff
 fcitx-qt5 failed with symbols error, that is much easier to fix
 qtpim failed with tests failures :(
 :/
 vorlon has been doing rebuilds for new ghc, so he may know the state of play
 qtpim looks like a timeout
 I mean, just retrying might built it I guess. it was build succesfully for riscv64
 * built
 @Santa [qtpim looks like a timeout], qtpim has timeout on amd64, but it was already broken there. On other architectures it has a new test failure. On riscv64 the tests are not run at all.
 In addition to all that, there is an endianness error on s390x, but it is also not new.
 I will look at it a bit later.
 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-desktop-portal-kde/5.19.5-0ubuntu3/+build/20224640
 Just retried.
 ↑ this one needs a rebuild I guess
 thanks
 Day summary: … - all rebuilds are uploaded. … - qtwebengine built on amd64, but has NEW binaries. … - qt3d fixed in Debian, will be autosynced. … - Mike Gabriel seems to be working on the qtpim fix, I will leave it to him. … - hedgewars build-dependencies are still not installable.
 thanks
 ghc transition apparently has multiple levels of rebuilds to do before all works, so might not be quick
 @mitya57 who is Mike Gabriel?
 @Santa [@mitya57 who is Mike Gabriel?], qtpim maintainer, see https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/qtpim-opensource-src
 of the debian package
 Yes
 alright can you please forward to him my guess about the failure?
 mu guess is:
 * my guess is:
 This commit is causing the autotest regression: https://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/commit/?id=edec095cf80b62057116ce75c581b5ca5866bdcc
 I'm also guessing "2.0" and "-1.0" are being read as ints since that commit
 therefore the autotests fails because it's expecting a double
 JUST A GUESS XD
 @Santa [This commit is causing the autotest regression: https://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbas …], That commit is included only in dev branch, it's not in 5.15
 @Santa [I'm also guessing "2.0" and "-1.0" are being read as ints since that commit], But you are right, these numbers are now treated as integers for some reason.
 Maybe it's an effect of the major parser rewrite in 5.15 (it now uses CBOR internally).
 I would bet for the JSON parser
 If I'm reading this code correctly, all numbers with a dot should be treated as doubles, not integers: … https://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/tree/src/corelib/serialization/qjsonparser.cpp?h=5.15.1#n711
 So I have no idea why they are actually becoming qlonglong :/
 so you are guessing this is the commit which broke the thing: https://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/commit/?h=v5.15.1&id=35adb74ddd915831789f0175423660f8e898942e
 Yes, probably that one. But it's just a guess.
 Maybe the best way to fix it is replacing 2.0 with 2.1 and -1.0 with -1.1
 Anyway, end of day for me, good night
 @mitya57 thank you. I think progress has been good :)
 I guess it won't be a tragedy if the qtpim reads "2.0" as integer into a QVariant
 good night


[05:15] <Doughy> Anyone here? I'm having some issues with U1... again.
[10:07] <rye> morning
[10:32] <JamesTait> Buenos días a todos!
[11:30] <ralsina> good morning
[11:56] <gatox> good morning
[12:08] <ralsina> good mornign gatox
[12:09] <nessita> hello everyone!
[12:11] <alecu> hello all!
[12:11] <nessita> hi alecu!
[12:11] <alecu> hola naty!
[12:13] <gatox> ralsina, alecu nessita hi
[12:13] <nessita> hola gatox
[12:13] <alecu> gatox, hi there, you cylon!
[12:13] <nessita> gatox: did you fly back ok?
[12:13] <gatox> alecu, jejej
[12:13] <gatox> nessita, yes....... really really tired..... but no problems with the flight
[12:14] <gatox> alecu, i should stay and play.......... :(
[12:14] <gatox> jej
[12:16] <nessita> gatox: I know what you mean, yesterday I couldn't do nothing, I was tired all the time
[12:17] <gatox> nessita, yep..... yesterday i watch Lethal Weapon 1 and 2 :P..... i didn't want to do anything else
[12:30] <nessita> ralsina: have handy the mem consumption master bug?
[12:31] <ralsina> nessita: not right now. I tagged it 'master'
[12:31] <ralsina> nessita: I can find it in like 2 minutes
[12:32] <ralsina> nessita: 902166
[12:32] <ralsina> nessita: bug #902166
[12:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 902166 in ubuntuone-client "Excessive memory usage in syncdaemon (affects: 14) (dups: 7) (heat: 315)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/902166
[12:32] <nessita> ralsina: thanks!
[12:54] <gatox> rb
[12:54] <gatox> brb
[13:03] <ralsina> nessita: do you have an opinion on bug #903180 ?
[13:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 903180 in ubuntuone-storage-protocol (Ubuntu) (and 5 other projects) "extends python path, slowing down python imports (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/903180
[13:03] <nessita> ralsina: looking
[13:03] <gatox> back
[13:07] <nessita> ralsina: hum, we install in /usr/shared/pyshared since as far as I know this is the standard way of doing it, I'm not sure is our call to move to dist-packages. Besides, I thought that libraries that work with more than one python version should not go into dist-packages... but I'm not sure the exact rationale
[13:07] <nessita> ralsina: we should definitely ask dobey
[13:07] <ralsina> nessita: agreed
[13:09] <nessita> alecu: are you following all the new comments in the proxy bug? some more people has shared their proxy settings
[13:11] <alecu> nessita, thanks, looking.
[13:19] <alecu> nessita, it's interesting to see the exact configurations posted by all these users, and we'll probably work for most of them, but surely not *all* of them.
[13:20] <nessita> alecu: right :-)
[13:43] <gatox> does anyone know why this branch might be not landing: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/fix-double-navigation/+merge/83973 ?
[13:47] <gatox> ralsina, do you have time for a ui review? (it has pretty pictures :P) https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/misaligned-icons
[13:47] <gatox> it only nees one more approve
[13:55] <gatox> alecu, can you re-review this branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/not-validated-account/+merge/83055
[14:04] <nessita> gatox: seems like tarmac is not running, let's ask sidnei
[14:04] <gatox> nessita, ok
[14:47] <nessita> alecu: did dobey mention that this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/timestamp-autofix-1-4/+merge/82738 require a minor fix from you? (a couple of missing super() calls)
[14:47] <alecu> nessita, yes, he did
[14:47] <nessita> alecu: ok then, I said nothing
[14:47] <alecu> nessita, thanks for remembering, though :-)
[14:48] <nessita> alecu: I'm trying to catch up with all my pending reviews
[14:48] <nessita> and I saw that in my pending list
[14:48] <nessita> :-)
[14:59] <nessita> alecu: also, could you catch up with these 2 reviews when you can? https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/network-detect/+merge/77048 and https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-control-panel/auto-update-looping-call/+merge/81015
[15:00] <nessita> alecu, mandel, ralsina, gatox, dobey: standup time!
[15:00] <nessita> me
[15:00] <gatox> me
[15:01] <alecu> me
[15:01] <alecu> nessita, both dobey and mandel are out today
[15:01] <alecu> *out -> off
[15:01] <nessita> alecu: right, swap days I presume
[15:02] <nessita> any news from ralsina?
[15:02] <nessita> ok, let's start
[15:02] <nessita> DONE: sprint, worked on a not-small-branch (still unfinished) to remove markers from syncdaemon hoping that that will release some memory
[15:02] <nessita> TODO: catch up with reviews, start designing sso refactor to fix the registration failure on windows installer
[15:02] <nessita> BLOCKED: nopes
[15:02] <nessita> NEXT: gatox
[15:02] <gatox> DONE:
[15:02] <gatox> get_home_dir implementation in ubuntuone-client, replace expanduser in Control Panel, fixed some branches, Sprint Week: memory debugging.
[15:02] <gatox> TODO:
[15:02] <gatox> Finish with Bug #851356 (almost done), keep fixing bugs.
[15:02] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[15:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 851356 in ubuntuone-control-panel "QT UI: Folder list may show garbage for user homes non-ascii (affects: 1) (heat: 9)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851356
[15:02] <gatox> No
[15:02] <gatox> alecu, go
[15:02] <alecu> nessita, dobey is on a swap, and I saw mandel twitting that he was out today.
[15:03]  * nessita mira twitter
[15:04] <nessita> alecu: go?
[15:04]  * alecu writing notes
[15:07] <alecu> DONE: team sprint, a proxy branch needing reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/proxy-web-client
[15:07] <alecu> TODO: use new devtools squid tests from the proxy branches
[15:07] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[15:20] <cjohnston> rye: did you get my messge from the weekend
[15:26] <rye> verterok, do you recall the conversation about files uploading and retrying with TRY_AGAIN ^
[15:26] <rye> cjohnston, what is the file size now?
[15:27] <verterok> rye: no I don't, what's the issue?
[15:28] <cjohnston> rye: ubuntu reports it as 3.9gb
[15:29]  * alecu runs to the bank
[15:29] <cjohnston> alecu: put some money in my account while your there
[15:29] <rye> verterok, constant TRY_AGAIN upon big file uploads, cjohnston i am fetching the logs now
[15:30] <alecu> cjohnston, sure! send me the number by PM :-)
[15:30] <rye> alecu, no phishing in #ubuntuone channel please
[15:30] <cjohnston> ty rye
[15:30] <cjohnston> lol
[15:31] <verterok> rye: it's a server issue, e.g: content storage connection problems, about to die server
[15:31] <verterok> rye: for the moment a possible workaround is to reconnect and hope to end up in a healthier server
[15:31] <rye> verterok, it happened for me recently for 38Mb file - it was uploaded 101 time
[15:32] <rye> verterok, and ended up with AQ_UPLOAD_ERROR, so not uploading now
[15:32] <rye> because of INTERNAL_ERROR on the server side
[15:33] <verterok> rye: do you have trace logs?
[15:33] <rye> verterok, on client - yes
[15:33] <verterok> rye: I'm 95% sure the internal error was caused by the server dying
[15:34] <verterok> rye: grep for the INTERNAL_ERROR and check the cause, should be in the "comment" of the message
[15:35] <rye> verterok, 2011-12-12 14:07:47,530 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.StorageClient - TRACE - start - processMessage: id: 129 type: ERROR error {   type: INTERNAL_E
[15:35] <rye> RROR   comment: "" }
[15:36] <rye> syncing logs to see cjohnston and my session
[15:37] <nessita> thisfred: the notification fix branch works like a charm!
[15:37] <verterok> rye: nice :/
[15:38] <verterok> rye: ok, your server logs should be in TRACE level ;)
[15:40] <nessita> thisfred: ping
[15:45]  * gatox lunch...
[15:48] <nessita> thisfred: any reason to do "self.uploading_filename = self.files_uploading[0].path.split(os.path.sep)[-1]" instead of "self.uploading_filename = os.path.basename(self.files_uploading[0].path)"?
[15:52] <thisfred> nessita: pong (sry, didn't mean to msg you, still getting used to irssi)
[15:52] <thisfred> nessita: I'll have a look at that
[15:53] <thisfred> nessita: no reason, I'm pretty sure. I'll fix it
[15:53] <nessita> thisfred: thanks!
[16:15] <dobey> nessita: yes i am on swap today/tomorrow
[16:15] <nessita> dobey: ack
[16:16] <dobey> nessita: i'll reply to the bug from jelmer though; saying dist-packages was probably confusing, as we do actually install to dist-packages
[16:17] <nessita> dobey: do we install against dist-packages? I think no, I think we install /usr/shared/pyshared...
[16:17] <nessita> and linked
[16:19] <dobey> we install to both (in ubuntu anyway, nightlies are special)
[16:20] <nessita> dobey: ok, I will follow the conversation in the email
[16:21] <dobey> nessita: we install to dist-packages/ubuntuone-storage-protocol/ubuntuone/ for example though; and have a .pth file to deal with this, so we can use namespacing properly
[16:21] <nessita> right
[16:44] <igorr02u> I've got a question. For Ubuntu One Windows, can I somehow change the installation directory? I'm trying to set it up at my university, where I'm not authorized to install to C:.
[16:44] <igorr02u> any idea?
[17:07] <nessita> alecu: ping
[17:12] <alecu> nessita, pong
[17:19] <nessita> alecu: unping, solved it by myself :-). BTW, protocol stable-1-4 timestamp autofix, IRL tested and +1
[17:19] <alecu> nessita, nice, thanks!
[17:26] <nessita> lunchtime!
[17:48] <nessita> alecu: going with https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-storage-protocol/timestamp-autofix-1-6/+merge/81791 now
[17:48] <alecu> nessita, I've just re-reviewed this branch you suggested: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-control-panel/auto-update-looping-call/+merge/81015
[17:48] <nessita> alecu: great, thanks. I will hold my re-review until your comments are fixed
[17:58] <nessita> alecu: any clues why this is failing on tarmac? https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-storage-protocol/timestamp-autofix-1-4/+merge/81758
[18:03] <alecu> nessita, no clues about that branch
[18:03] <alecu> nessita, probably it has to do with the updated devtools too
[18:04] <alecu> nessita, because all tests were passing for me when I ran it on maverick
[18:04] <nessita> alecu: I tried to run it in maverick and got that too... weird
[18:05] <alecu> nessita, I'll try running those on natty and maverick in half an hour
[18:05]  * alecu is swapping a dead case fan in his desktop right now.
[18:07] <alecu> see you all in a few minutes!
[19:36]  * ralsina says LUNCH! Or rather TEA! or maybe LOW BLOOD SUGAR! and will brb
[19:41] <alecu> nessita, I've tried that branch again, under all of maverick, natty and oneiric, and I can't get that error: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-storage-protocol/timestamp-autofix-1-4/+merge/81758
[19:41] <alecu> nessita, pylint throws a few messages but it goes on anyay.
[19:41] <alecu> *anyway
[19:41] <nessita> alecu: :-/ ah, I think I don't have pylint in that VM, I was hoping to get the test ran and lint failure
[19:41] <alecu> nessita, you said you've gotten the "error: No such file or directory" as tarmac does
[19:42] <nessita> yes
[19:42] <alecu> nessita, well, if you are getting that on trunk too, then it might be missing.
[19:43] <alecu> nessita, I'm doing "./run-tests", both on my branch and on trunk, pylint throws many errors but it finally succeeds
[19:44] <nessita> alecu: trying in a few minutes
[19:55] <alecu> gatox, a small needsfixing on https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/network-detect/+merge/77048
[19:55] <gatox> alecu, ok!
[19:55] <gatox> ahhh almost u1 completly working on win with weird usernames!!
[19:56] <nessita> alecu: now the branch is landed, dobey fixed it
[19:56] <gatox> don't die syncdaemon
[19:56] <nessita> gatox: but wasn't already working?!?
[19:56] <alecu> gatox, coooool!
[19:56] <nessita> gatox: make_link as well? :D
[19:57] <gatox> nessita, oops.... make link not.... it seems that after the control panel succed to show the proper folders, etc..... something else die...  some things wasn't tested before... because we just put syncdaemon and sso to run..... but we didn't test the complete flow because control panel wasn't working....
[19:58] <nessita> gatox: right, and last time we talked we agreed make_link was the next thing to fix, I think?
[19:59] <gatox> yes.... i need to get this working..... and i'll be able to fix make_link..... but make cp work is more important
[19:59] <gatox> also..... this shows that something is not fully working on syncdaemon.... so i'll need to fix that too
[20:00] <gatox> ohhhh unicode....... how you dare??
[20:07] <ralsina> hahaha, unicode?
[20:08] <ralsina> gatox: may I send you some ansiolitics labeled "in case of unicode, break the blister"?
[20:09] <gatox> jejeje
[20:10] <gatox> ralsina, i'm going to do this to people who don't use unicode (instead before eating like the video): http://youtu.be/ILvkEHQPHHg
[20:11] <ralsina> hahaha
[20:12] <ralsina> a = "blah" # punched by gatox!
[20:12] <gatox> jejejjejee
[20:13]  * alecu runs to the kinder, bbl
[20:38] <gatox> nessita, ping
[20:38] <nessita> gatox: pong
[20:39] <gatox> nessita, sso is failing in keyring/windows.py [delete_credentials]
[20:39] <gatox> nessita, its trying to create a deferToThread that calls self.keyring.delete_password.... but it can't find that method
[20:39] <nessita> gatox: do you have the patched python-keyring on windows?
[20:39] <gatox> nessita, http://paste.ubuntu.com/768311/
[20:40] <ralsina> gatox: wrong keyring
[20:40] <nessita> gatox: I bet you don't have it
[20:40] <gatox> probably not.......
[20:40] <nessita> gatox: you know how to get that?
[20:41] <ralsina> gatox: https://bitbucket.org/mandel/pykeyring-delete-password/overview
[20:41] <ralsina> that's from memory, but the "right" way should be in the wiki
[20:41] <gatox> ahhh i didn't know that.....
[20:41] <gatox> i can't find it in the wiki
[20:42] <ralsina> gatox: then this is a good time to add it :-)
[20:42] <gatox> but i'll download it from the repo
[20:42] <gatox> ralsina, roger that
[20:42]  * ralsina is not 100% sure that's the right git branch
[20:42] <ralsina> I will EOD now, but will be back in a few hours for another round. Feel free to email me!
[20:42] <gatox> ralsina, it's the saame mentioned in mandel's comment :P
[20:44] <nessita> gatox: can you please add that to the ubuntu-sso-client section?
[20:44] <gatox> nessita, yep
[20:44] <nessita> gatox: need the link for the keyring sourte?
[20:44] <gatox> nop..... already have it
[20:45] <nessita> https://bitbucket.org/mandel/pykeyring-delete-password
[20:45] <nessita> ah, ok :-)
[20:46] <gatox> nessita, ahhhhhh it's already there, it appears as an item in the sso dependencies: *  our patched version of pykyering (which is a link to that repo)
[20:46] <nessita> gatox: ajá!
[20:46] <nessita> (?)
[20:46] <gatox> nessita, so.... i need to add something else?
[20:46] <gatox> in the wiki
[20:47] <nessita> I think no
[20:47] <nessita> perhpas making that more visible?
[20:47] <gatox> ahhhhhh i couldn't find it with ctrl+f because it is misspelled
[20:47] <gatox> fixing that
[20:49] <nessita> gatox: awesome, thanks
[20:59] <gatox> nessita, OMG it's working!
[20:59] <nessita> gatox: stop playing with my feeling... is the link working?
[20:59] <gatox> nessita, jejeje no.... i mean the control panel!
[21:00] <nessita> gatox: we said the link first, no? or I am confused?
[21:00] <gatox> nessita, now i can propose this branch and start working on the link again
[21:00] <gatox> but the cp works without problems
[21:00] <gatox> with weird usernames
[21:00] <nessita> gatox: using the get_home_dir?
[21:00] <gatox> and it's syncing my files
[21:00] <gatox> nessita, yes
[21:01] <nessita> gatox: ok then... but UDF creation is not working, no?
[21:01] <gatox> nop
[21:01] <nessita> gatox: because we really need the link thing to be fixed before that
[21:01] <gatox> yet
[21:08] <nessita> alecu: GREAT NEWS! protocol-1-6 branch approved (IRL tested, of course). what's left in that mega bug?
[21:08] <verterok> nessita, ralsina, rye, joshuahoover: in case someone want to test the fix IRL (I already did it in maverick...which probably means nothing :p): https://code.launchpad.net/~verterok/ubuntuone-client/fix-869920/+merge/85392
[21:09] <joshuahoover> verterok: sure, i'll give it a try
[21:10] <nessita> thisfred: FYI, I will nominate the notification fix for oneiric, so we'll need a branch for stable-3-0 to be able to SRU this to O
[21:13] <nessita> alecu: I'm eoding now, I will do lp:~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/proxy-web-client tomorrow
[21:24] <joshuahoover> verterok: sigh...it's been a while since i built and tested a client change...trying to do it on a vm but can't find the proper steps...do we have those anywhere (steps for building to at least test a syncdaemon branch)?
[21:26] <verterok> joshuahoover: with nightlies installed: bzr branch lp:~verterok/ubuntuone-client/fix-869920; cd fix-869920; u1sdtool -q; PYTHONPATH=. bin/ubuntuone-syncdaemon
[21:26] <joshuahoover> verterok: thanks!
[21:34]  * nessita -> eod
[22:10] <joshuahoover> verterok: approved, after testing on oneiric - https://code.launchpad.net/~verterok/ubuntuone-client/fix-869920/+merge/85392
[22:10] <joshuahoover> verterok: thanks for getting that done
[22:10] <verterok> joshuahoover: cool, thanks!


[03:05] <hot_wheelz> how come there is now sound after login in 12.10?
[07:21] <ScottHarrison> hey guys, just had a really odd issue... I couldn't login to my user account, however I could login to all others and I could login as myself in the recovery console...
[07:22] <ScottHarrison> resolved it by chowning my .Xauthority file... any idea how this could have been taken by root?
[07:27] <head_victim> ScottHarrison: honestly, no idea :)
[07:44] <ScottHarrison> I was lucky to find a thread that suggested checking who owned .Xauthority, unfortunately it didn't explain why
[08:56] <sagaci> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqqNVLHP2Hs&feature=g-u-lsb
[08:56] <sagaci> slug live stream
[23:34] <sagaci> brb in 36h


[16:40] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: menu add...
[16:40] <Eickmeyer> menu add...?
[16:40] <OvenWerks> the last hour or so in #ubuntustudio..
[16:41] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, I saw that. Exact use case.
[16:41] <OvenWerks> It points out the use of a menu item adder
[16:44] <Eickmeyer> Yep.
[16:45] <OvenWerks> I actually think this is the normal (most frequent) use for other menu editors.
[16:51] <Eickmeyer> I agree.
 @Eickmeyer [<Eickmeyer> sakrecoer: Thanks! Gave you some credit too, for your advice.], <3 i'm very grateful for that :)
[17:07] <sakrecoer> i should really take the habbit to use IRC when i can though
[17:08] <Eickmeyer> sakrecoer: There's a reason I bridged Telegram. Makes it easier for everyone. Next up: matrix.
[17:08] <sakrecoer> i think it was good move :)
[17:08] <Eickmeyer> Though, in that case, I need krytarik to agree, which is like pulling teeth. :P
[17:09] <Eickmeyer> Myself and M_aD are already using Matrix.
[17:10] <sakrecoer> well krytarik is right, but sometimes the popular choice isn't. And we defenetly needed the community to grow, what better metaphore than a bridge to achieve that.
[17:11] <sakrecoer> matrix bridge is a very cool next step! :)
[17:11] <M_aD> i'm using Matrix/Riot just because the quassel core server i was connected to went offline.
[17:11] <M_aD> i'm more of a irc guy as is without the matrix stuff :)
[17:12] <Eickmeyer> Thing is, other IRC ops are way more lenient than krytarik, especially the council.
[17:12] <sakrecoer> me too... originally... i just.. the older i get the less conservative i become. I suppose it is my taste for counter currrents lol
[17:13] <sakrecoer> then again, not much conservative about IRC.... but somehow it scary to new, younger users at first. I can see why, even though i don't really see a reason for it being scarier
[17:14] <sakrecoer> it just looks and feels more matrix like than say: matrix chat :D
[17:14] <sakrecoer> anyways, sorry for OT jitter in the dev channel
[17:15] <Eickmeyer> No worries. :)
[17:19]  * Eickmeyer has to go run errands


[08:26] <DrManhattan> Is there an ETA for a fix on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1257186
[08:26] <DrManhattan> I have upgraded my samba to version 4.1.6 but Im still getting the talloc memory leak error. Is there any way I can keep samba password sync to user accounts and get rid of this memory error? no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[08:57] <cjwatson> DrManhattan: This isn't a good channel to ask about that.  This channel is about launchpad.net, the project hosting site, itself.  Perhaps try #ubuntu-bugs.
[08:58] <DrManhattan> thanks
[11:21] <jonathon> Hi, I tried backporting the Vivid kernel to Trusty and it uploaded and built correctly in my PPA (~jonathonf/testing), but then errored with "Failed to upload", "Unable to find source publication" (https://launchpadlibrarian.net/195004995/upload_6719769_log.txt). Can I fix this?
[11:22] <jonathon> Searching the 'net for "launchpad unable to find source publication" returns no hits
[11:25] <wgrant> jonathon: Launchpad needs to be able to link back the binary package to the source package. It does that by a combination of the Source and Version fields in the binary package's control file.
[11:25] <wgrant> Normally, the binary version is the same as the source version. You'll get 'Source: $SOURCEPACKAGENAME' and 'Version: $SOURCEPACKAGEVERSION'
[11:26] <wgrant> A few packages override their binary versions to something different from the source version. In that case the binary's control file needs to say 'Version: $BINARYPACKAGEVERSION' and 'Source: $SOURCEPACKAGENAME ($SOURCEPACKAGEVERSION)', so the original source package can be found.
[11:26] <wgrant> It sounds like your source package is producing binaries with a different version from the source, but without encoding the original version in the Source field.
[11:27] <wgrant> linux packaging is somewhat special, and I don't know the ins and outs any more I'm afraid.
[11:27] <jonathon> no worries, that's already much more information than I had :)
[11:27] <jonathon> at least i know where to start looking
[11:28] <jonathon> i'm assuming it's because the linux source will be 3.18.2 but the ubuntu package version is 3.18.0-9
[11:28] <wgrant> Not quite so simple.
[11:29] <wgrant> The linux packaging is fairly magical.
[11:29] <wgrant> The version is treated specially for ABI checks and such.
[11:29] <wgrant> I have to reread all that code every time I try to do a patched version in my PPA...
[11:29] <jonathon> ah
[11:33] <jonathon> thank you anyway :)
[11:34] <jonathon> quite happy i got a response ;)
[11:40] <cjwatson> jonathon: I think your problem may be that your debian/changelog is out of sync with debian.master/changelog.  Normally the former is generated from the latter in the Ubuntu kernel packaging (which, as wgrant says, is weird and magical), but you may have made a mistake somewhere and broken that.
[11:40] <wgrant> ah yes, that could do it.
[11:40] <cjwatson> The kernel's "debian/rules clean" copies debian.master/changelog to debian/changelog, so perhaps you built the source package in a way that didn't clean it.
[11:40] <cjwatson> #ubuntu-kernel will probably have better advice on doing this properly.
[11:41] <jonathon> ah, nice
[11:42] <jonathon> I used the 'backportpackage' script which may not work well for linux
[11:49] <cjwatson> Indeed not.  And it uses debuild -nc, which would explain the lack of debian/rules clean.
[11:52] <jonathon> I _thought_ that script made things too easy :D
[11:59] <cjwatson> It's pretty good for just about anything that isn't the kernel.
[12:02] <jonathon> Trust me to find an edge-case...
[12:03] <jonathon> I am impressed with Launchpad now I've started actually using it
[12:03] <jonathon> love the source build recipe feature
[12:03] <wgrant> linux is a good guess for an edge case for just about everything :P
[12:03] <jonathon> though there are a number of packages that haven't got a recent import to their source branch
[12:03] <jonathon> :D
[12:11] <Mez> Are there any plans for launchpad to be able to have github issues as the upstream bug tracker?
[12:12] <wgrant> Mez: That's https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/848666, and it's on our todo list for the next few months.
[12:12] <wgrant> No guarantees, but it's likely to be done some time soon.
[12:13] <Mez> wgrant: awesome :)
[12:13] <Mez> wgrant: and openldap's bug tracker ? :)
[12:13] <wgrant> Mez: That one's unlikely.
[12:14] <Mez> wgrant: got any tags for wishlist features?
[12:14] <Mez> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1411634
[12:15] <wgrant> Mez: Done.
[12:15] <Mez> ty wgrant
[13:00] <marcoceppi_> I can't seem to log in to the staging instance of LP
[15:19] <silviu> anybody help me to creat a ppa?
[15:19] <silviu> pleasss
[15:19] <silviu> my linux its xubuntu
[15:29] <Salehi> Hi , I cp & paste finger print part of `$gpg --fingerprint` to launchpad, but I deal with "       Launchpad could not import your OpenPGP key       Did you enter your complete fingerprint correctly?         (Help with fingerprints)", Whats the problem?!
[15:32] <dobey> did you upload the key to the ubuntu keyserver?
[15:34] <Salehi> No! :D
[15:35] <Salehi> I got it, Thanks :)
[15:37] <cjwatson> silviu: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA has documentation.
[19:04] <Salehi> Whats should be happened after uploading a package to luanchpad ? I uploaded rcssserver package : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9763124/ , But I can NOT see that on the launchpad
[19:05] <Salehi> Uh sorrty
[19:05] <Salehi> * Sorry
[19:05] <Salehi> An Email has been sent to me :)
[19:05] <teward> Salehi: yeah it takes a few minutes sometimes for the system to pick up the recent PPA upload - it'll eventually catch it.
[19:06] <teward> (I think it's a cron task?)
[19:19] <Salehi> "Rejected:
[19:19] <Salehi> Source/binary (i.e. mixed) uploads are not allowed."
[19:19] <Salehi> What is this problem? And what is the solution?
[19:33] <dobey> Salehi: you can only upload source packages to launchpad
[19:36] <Salehi> dobey: Means that, I have to build source only and  no binary files? -> "-S" option?
[19:36] <teward> yep
[19:36] <teward> Salehi: you have to `debuild -S` then upload to the ppas
[19:37] <Salehi> teward: dobey, Thanks :)
[19:50] <silviu> anybody help me to creat a ppa?
[19:50] <silviu> pleasss
[19:50] <silviu> pleasss!!!!!
[19:50] <silviu> my linux its xubuntu
[19:51] <dobey> silviu: 10:35 < cjwatson> silviu: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA has documentation.
[19:56] <silviu> thenks!!
[20:02] <teward> how often do the PPA publishers actually publish, again?
[20:12] <dobey> teward: when they feel like it?
[20:12] <dobey> i think quite often though
[20:12] <dobey> but never as fast as you want
[20:13] <teward> well 10 minutes was slow
[20:14] <dobey> 30 seconds is slow if you're watching the pot and waiting for it to boil :)
[20:57] <Salehi> Can I see log of other builds?
[20:57] <teward> Salehi: 'other builds'?
[20:58] <Salehi> Means that builds which is not belongs to me
[20:58] <teward> Salehi: if they're in a ppa, then yes, you just have to expand the data under the "View Packages" section of the PPA
[20:59] <teward> assuming the ppa is publicly visible *and* the ppa belongs to a team and not an individual
[21:01] <dobey> teward: anyone can see the build logs for any public ppa or the ubuntu archive
[21:01] <teward> dobey: two of my lines crossed
[21:01]  * teward kicks his computer
[21:01] <teward> dobey: meant to say:
[21:01] <teward> if the PPA is public anyone can see it (includes the ubuntu archives)
[21:01] <teward> if it's private, you need to have team membership of some sort to see the logs for that ppa
[21:02]  * teward failed due to staring at command line the past couple hours
[21:02] <dobey> well, if it's private you probably won't even know the ppa exists unless you have permissions to see it already :)
[21:03] <teward> dobey: true, but without any inforamtion from Salehi it doesn't hurt to answer while covering all bases :)
[21:03] <teward> oh goody, in other news, non-deterministic build failure in a PPA...
[21:03] <teward> fun.
[21:03] <teward> >.>
[21:04] <dobey> also ubuntu archive isn't PPAs, so i try to be clear about that when answering such questions, by referring to them as separate things
[21:04] <teward> meh
[21:04]  * teward yawns
[23:10] <cjwatson> teward: The cron job fires every five minutes, but in practice it generally cycles about once every ten.
[23:12] <cjwatson> Maybe a bit slower, looks like it has a little more to do than it did last I checked.


[05:14] <Kilos> morning all
[06:04] <Squirm> morning
[06:04] <Kilos> hi Squirm mazal
[06:07] <Kilos> hi bduk1
[06:10] <bduk1> morning Kilos and everyone
[06:12] <Kilos> i forgot to tell mazal to try when booting to do a recovery from an earlier kernel version or earlier upgrade
[06:14] <bduk1> Ill tell him
[06:15] <Squirm> I love our internet
[06:15]  * Kilos jealous
[06:15] <Kilos> hi Xethron
[06:16] <Xethron> Hello Kilos
[06:17] <Squirm> I must have downloaded close on 20Gb last night
[06:17] <Kilos> wow
[06:17] <Kilos> what do you download that is so big
[06:34] <Squirm> stuff :P
[06:35] <Kilos> hehe
[06:35] <Squirm> need more hdd space
[06:35] <Kilos> whew
[06:37] <Kilos> you now in the 3TB league
[06:38] <Squirm> I fulled up 2x1Tb drives
[06:38] <Squirm> so yes, just breaching into it
[06:38] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:42] <Squirm> I want to invest in a 256Gb SSD
[06:43] <Kilos> i looked at prices the other day they arent cheap
[06:44] <Kilos> and i dunno if they will last as long as mechanical drives
[06:44] <Kilos> did find anything on their reliability
[06:44] <Kilos> didnt
[06:46] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:46] <Kilos> hi mazal
[06:47] <mazal> oom Kilos , re that remastersys , the only thing I can think of that makes the iso too big is if you have big files somewhere in folders that is included in the iso
[06:47] <mazal> I once had that when I had video files in my www folder for my website
[06:49] <mazal> Also make sure all externals and possible mounted network drives are not mounted
[06:49] <Kilos> sjoe ive looked everywhere, my /home shows as 1.3g so i dont know where its finding all the stuff
[06:49] <Kilos> grrr
[06:50] <Kilos> if you look there is it wanting to add the /storage partition?
[06:50] <Kilos> i save most stuff to the /storage
[06:51] <mazal> Unmount all "extra" partitions
[06:51] <mazal> Externals
[06:51] <mazal> Network drives
[06:51] <Kilos> no externals
[06:52] <Kilos> i really want it to work because this 12.04 is fully upgraded and works lekker
[06:52] <mazal> Check with boabab what folders have big data and investigate those folders if it is unneeded data
[06:53] <mazal>  Folders /home and apt cache is not included in the iso so don't worry about that one
[06:53] <Kilos> ok ty lemme see if i can find the prob
[06:54] <Kilos> i looked at that report but couldnt work out what all it is trying to use
[06:54] <Kilos> and im using the iso option not the backup one
[06:55] <Kilos> anyway mazal have you tried a recovery from an earlier upgrade
[06:55] <mazal> Nah , I'll suffer and hope the next update will fix it :P
[06:55] <Kilos> in the grub boot menu
[06:55] <mazal> Too busy to struggle with things that don't work
[06:55] <Kilos> ah
[06:56] <mazal> On the next boot I'll just boot with previous kernel and see
[06:56] <mazal> If that works I'll use the previous kernel until next kernel update
[06:59] <Squirm> Kilos: they aren't cheap
[07:00] <Squirm> but, they give you the best percent performance increase for your money spend
[07:00] <Squirm> s/spend/spent
[07:00] <Squirm> and I'm sure they'll be more reliable - no moving parts
[07:00] <Kilos> thats why i looked for the performance side
[07:01] <Kilos> they look good
[07:02] <Squirm> “There has never been a better time to invest in SSD technology. The price having reached below R13.26/GB not only makes SSDs more affordable but as the test shows, they are in fact the best value/performance upgrade,” said Kirsty Miller, Consumer Marketing Manager EMEA.
[07:03] <Kilos> 13.26*256
[07:03] <Kilos> Maaz, 13.26*256
[07:03] <Maaz> Kilos: 3394.56
[07:03] <Kilos> cant be so much
[07:03] <Squirm> and, http://mybroadband.co.za/news/reviews/58093-kingston-hyperx-3k-240gb-ssd-review.html Shows a comparison between a SSD and a Hybrid drive
[07:04] <Squirm> the SSD kicks the hybrid drive off the table
[07:04] <Squirm> nah
[07:04] <Squirm> maybe R1.2k for a 256Gb
[07:04] <Squirm> might be cheaper now
[07:04] <Kilos> just reliability then. old drives just keep going
[07:04] <Squirm> not if you're moving around
[07:04] <Squirm> my desktop moves a lot
[07:05] <Kilos> sjoe you can get 2TB for that price
[07:05] <Kilos> aha
[07:05] <Kilos> i go feed sheep quick
[07:07] <Squirm> I can get a 3Tb for that price
[07:08] <Squirm> but I have enough hdd space - I need more performance
[07:08] <Squirm> my old dual core needs to be faster
[07:15] <Kilos> lol
[07:16] <Kilos> save up for an i7
[07:16] <Kilos> morning superfly
[07:25] <Squirm> going to buy myself a new PC next year
[07:25] <Squirm> finished paying off my car end of next month
[07:30] <Kilos> great
[08:03] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:06] <psyatw> good morning inetpro
[08:14] <Kilos> morning inetpro
[08:14] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[08:14] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> hellos
[08:37] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[08:45] <Kilos> wbb
[09:23] <Kilos> ty mazal unmounting that /storage sorted the prob
[09:50] <mazal> Remstersys doesn't know what it is and include it as part of the system
[09:50] <Kilos> crazy but good to know ty
[09:57] <Kilos> ai!
[09:57] <Kilos> Unable to save bookmarks in /home/miles/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Insufficient permissions in target directory.. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.
[10:03] <Kilos> heres the debugging output
[10:03] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20sEDTqTn
[10:03] <Kilos> has my writer packed up?
[10:05] <Kilos> or must i chown something
[10:06] <Kilos> grrr
[10:16] <mazal> That's why I always mount to either my home folder or inside /media. Neither of those folders are included in the iso
[10:17] <Kilos> ya but ive made a remastersys iso here before and burned to dvd, now k3b and brasero spit out the dvds
[10:18] <Kilos> princo dvd-r
[10:18] <Kilos> splinter nuut
[10:22] <superfly> ohi Kilos
[10:22] <Kilos> hehe hi zerlgi
[10:22] <superfly> yo ThatGraemeGuy, inetpro, mazal, psyatw, Squirm
[10:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> aloha
[10:23] <mazal> o/
[10:24] <zerlgi> Yo ola
[10:24] <zerlgi> Hi there. Any of y'all coming thru to Stellenbosch for Saucy party?
[10:24] <mazal> That doesn't sound good :)
[10:24] <mazal> " saucy party " hehehehe
[10:24] <psyatw> hi superfly
[10:24] <psyatw> hi mazal
[10:25] <psyatw> hi zerlgi
[10:28] <zerlgi> yip. I intentionally left out the salamander.
[10:28] <zerlgi> Greets psyatw
[10:28] <Kilos> hehe
[10:30]  * zerlgi greets kilos superfly mazal thatgraemeguy
[10:31] <zerlgi> maaz please wave at Kilos
[10:31] <Maaz> zerlgi: Excuse me?
[10:31] <Kilos> haha
[10:31] <zerlgi> Maaz tell Kilos: Ola
[10:31] <Maaz> zerlgi: I don't know who Kilos: is.  The calendar data keep dissapearing :(
[11:06] <mazal> Put backup back , data there , reboot , data gone
[11:06] <Kilos> ai!
[11:06] <mazal> Looks like Ubuntu decided I had a break long enough , time to start breaking again
[11:06] <Kilos> lol
[11:07] <mazal> Oh Kilos , and I tried booting with an earlier kernel for that Unity dash issue , same problem
[11:07] <Kilos> then its stuck in all the settings and your stuffs
[11:08] <Kilos> when i have that prob i reinstall
[11:08] <Kilos> need clever peeps to sort that
[11:08] <mazal> Don't have time re-install every two weeks
[11:09] <Kilos> you been hacked
[11:09]  * mazal mumbles something about so called technology
[11:09] <Kilos> lol
[11:09] <mazal> I'm so tired of stuff not working
[11:10] <mazal> Now I don't even want to reboot then thunderbird data gone again
[11:11] <Kilos> ai1
[12:39] <mazal> Enjoy your wekeend everyone
[12:39] <mazal> oops , weekend even
[12:39] <mazal> cheers
[14:01] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> hmm...?
[14:10] <Kilos> tired now k3b dont like the media in dwd writer
[14:10] <Kilos> nor does brasero
[14:12] <Kilos> new princo dvd'
[14:12] <Kilos> grrr
[14:56] <Kilos> almost like getting new sticks that arent formatted. gotta format before use
[14:56] <Kilos> wont work on a dvd
[14:56] <Kilos> grrr
[15:37] <nuvolari> o/ alo
[15:37] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos
[15:37] <Kilos> lo nuvolari
[15:38] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: yeah, I've noticed, I am accustomed to tea now :P I wake up before my alarm clock and I don't feel as tired any longer
[15:38] <nuvolari> hoe gaan dit oom Kilos ?
[15:38]  * nuvolari gaan huistoe
[15:38] <Kilos> goed dankie nuvolari en jy?
[15:39] <Kilos> mooi loop
[18:18] <Kilos> Maaz, announce Monthly meeting monday night at 20.30 guys
[18:18] <Maaz> Announcement from Kilos!  Reported error was: Insufficient permissions in target directory.. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.
[18:36] <Kilos> thats here on unity . i tried going to kubuntu and also cant write
[18:36] <Kilos> grrr
[18:36] <kbmonkey> that the only error?
[18:37] <kbmonkey> lol, funny if that is the reason it fails :p
[18:37] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20sEDTqTn
[18:38] <Kilos> no on kubuntu it doesnt give that error
[18:38] <Kilos> i think that link was the brasero log
[18:41] <Kilos> here is the k3b debug report
[18:41] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20qX6t9zv
[18:42] <kbmonkey> you see on line 66 for brasero says "errno 5"
[18:42] <kbmonkey> I am searching that now
[18:42] <Kilos> i had another one that said error 15
[18:42] <Kilos> thats where i got to a bug report
[18:42] <Kilos> grr
[18:43] <kbmonkey> do you have gnomebaker installed?
[18:43] <Kilos> maybe i should try burning another iso to dvd
[18:43] <Kilos> lemme check
[18:43] <kbmonkey> someone on launchpad bugs said running brasero with 'sudo' worked for them
[18:45] <Kilos> gnomebaker not in repos
[18:45] <Kilos> dvds are expensive now though
[18:45] <Kilos> 4.85 each
[18:46] <kbmonkey> you sure they are dvd's and not cd's?
[18:46] <Kilos> ya man i got 3 of each
[18:46] <Kilos> princo DVD-R
[18:49] <kbmonkey> I suggest you turn pc off and reconnect the cables to the dvd drive and the mobo
[18:50] <kbmonkey> if that no help, if you reboot and in grub menu if you can choose an older version of linux kernel?
[18:50] <kbmonkey> I see you have 3.2, see if there are older ones
[18:51] <Kilos> i have the same prob with maverick
[18:51] <Kilos> on k3b and brasero
[18:51] <Kilos> sudo brasero says
[18:51] <Kilos> please replace the disk with a supported cd dvd
[18:51] <Kilos> sigh
[18:53] <kbmonkey> sounds like your discs are broken.
[18:54] <Kilos> ya but they new
[18:54] <Kilos> got them today
[18:54]  * Kilos cries
[18:54] <kbmonkey> does brasero have 'plugins' in its settings
[18:54] <Kilos> ?
[18:56] <kbmonkey> how large is that iso?? it it not too large?
[18:57] <kbmonkey> is it a live cd?
[18:57] <Kilos> The size of the file is over 2 GiB. Files larger than 2 GiB are not supported by the ISO9660 standard in its first and second versions (the most widespread ones).
[18:57] <Kilos> It is recommended to use the third version of the ISO9660 standard, which is supported by most operating systems, including Linux and all versions of Windows™.
[18:57] <Kilos> However, Mac OS X cannot read images created with version 3 of the ISO9660 standard.
[18:57] <Kilos> just got that
[18:57] <Kilos> thats going with sudo brasero
[18:57] <Kilos> this iso is 2.3g
[18:57] <kbmonkey> are you trying to burn the file to the disc, or trying to burn the _contents_ of the iso as a bootable disc?
[18:58] <Kilos> yes remastersys makes a live cd thats your full running os
[18:58] <kbmonkey> you backing it up in other words?
[18:58] <Kilos> nope im using the distro option
[18:58] <Kilos> otherwise it only does mile everything
[18:58] <Kilos> miles
[18:59] <kbmonkey> oh dear. guess the file is too large then.
[18:59] <kbmonkey> you don thave a usb instead?
[18:59] <Kilos> basically its a dvd of your running os
[18:59] <Kilos> i cant do the remastersys to usb
[19:00] <Kilos> took the iso and used unetbootin to do it but then it like an install iso
[19:00] <kbmonkey> eish.
[19:00] <Kilos> remastersys makes it same as booting from your drive
[19:00] <kbmonkey> I tried remastersys once, long ago. I could not get it right myself.
[19:01] <kbmonkey> now I just tar my system files XD
[19:01] <Kilos> i have kde and unity working but the backup ones
[19:02] <Kilos> you use same login and password as with you drive
[19:03] <Kilos> where do i get that iso9660 from
[19:04] <kbmonkey> um, I am not sure
[19:04] <kbmonkey> iso9660 is the file system specification for read-only media (like cd-roms)
[19:05] <Kilos> did you read my paste up a bit
[19:06] <Kilos> maybe i try force it to write the extras
[19:09] <kbmonkey> hmm, not sure what you mean by that. sorry man.
[19:09] <kbmonkey> I read the paste yes
[19:09] <kbmonkey> errno 5 :(
[19:10] <Kilos> ssssh its trying
[19:10] <kbmonkey> shhh
[19:12] <kbmonkey> the wind is howling tonight. it is making the 3g sad
[19:12] <kbmonkey> it dropped to 2g, and now 1g. lol.
[19:12] <Kilos> aw
[19:25] <Kilos> eish its made an iso in root
[19:25] <Kilos> /root/brasero.iso
[19:25] <Kilos> sigh
[19:28] <kbmonkey> sigh
[19:29] <Kilos> can the dvds really be unsupported types
[19:29] <kbmonkey> easier ways to backup
[19:30] <Kilos> no man i want it on dvd so i can install to a stick
[19:30] <kbmonkey> hang on - you want to install on usb stick?
[19:30] <Kilos> yessir
[19:31] <Kilos> i want my system installed on a stick
[19:32] <kbmonkey> but remastersys no works on usb :/ eish
[19:33] <Kilos> it will install to a stick once its on the dvd
[19:33] <Kilos> it installs like pure ubuntu
[19:33] <kbmonkey> some distros you just dd the iso to the usb then it becomes like bootable
[19:33] <kbmonkey> but no guarantee remastersys will do that
[19:33] <kbmonkey> it depends if it was remastered with syslinux bootstrap
[19:34] <Kilos> it can install to a drive so im sure it will install to a usb drive as well
[19:34] <Kilos> it installs your full working os to a drive so you dont need to do anything to carry on working
[19:35] <kbmonkey> it be very slow to run your OS off usb even
[19:35] <Kilos> same password and mail client and contacts and pidgin and xchat and everything works off the bat
[19:36] <Kilos> ya man
[19:36] <Kilos> i want it to be able to boot with it and fix other pcs
[19:36] <Kilos> not use permanently
[19:36] <kbmonkey> I would not put my contacts and personal things on such a disk. eek.
[19:36] <Kilos> no one touches my stuff
[19:37] <kbmonkey> paranoir
[19:37] <Kilos> lol
[19:38] <kbmonkey> you want it for the programs
[19:38] <Kilos> yessir all the installed tools i have here
[19:39] <Kilos> testdisk scalpel foremost and terminal use for fscks and so on and boot-repair
[19:40] <kbmonkey> well, you could save those apps debs and istall them in a live if you have to
[19:41] <Kilos> ya i can install from sratch if i have to but a remastersys iso will have everything in it immediately
[19:41] <kbmonkey> you need a Knoppix disc Kilos ;) that thing is fantastic
[19:42] <Kilos> whats that
[19:42] <kbmonkey> its debian kde live cd with all fixing tools
[19:42] <Kilos> size?
[19:43] <kbmonkey> no man its cd size - large
[19:43] <Kilos> night surfer data
[19:44] <Kilos> but whats it gonna do that my pc here cant do
[19:44] <kbmonkey> if you want something like that it good. may be best to shop around first.
[19:44] <kbmonkey> nothing your pc cannot do - unless you cant get remastersys working
[19:45] <Kilos> lol i will get it going somehow
[19:45] <Kilos> i now have the brasero.iso of the remastersys.iso
[19:46] <Kilos> gotta work out how to tell brasero to burn with that one command
[19:48] <Kilos> what would it be . i gotta do it from inside root because thats where the brasero.iso went
[19:48] <Kilos> grrr
[19:48] <kbmonkey> there is also system rescue cd. 420MB linux live usb. you can customize it too. http://www.sysresccd.org
[19:49] <kbmonkey> just saying, if you dont want to reinvent the wheel :)
[19:49] <Kilos> i have that on cd
[19:49] <kbmonkey> oh? well sorted. that has everything you want and more.
[19:49] <Kilos> but not as good as using my pc to fix things
[19:50] <kbmonkey> no?
[19:50] <kbmonkey> it has xfce
[19:50] <Kilos> nope i got testdisk and foremost and scalpel
[19:50] <Kilos> and boot-repair
[19:52] <Kilos> my pc rocks, just slowly
[19:52] <Kilos> and i have unity kde and maverick
[19:52] <kbmonkey> hehe alright :]
[19:52] <kbmonkey> think I will get the new systemrescue - have data to use in next 5 days
[19:53] <Kilos> ah
[19:53] <Kilos> some drives dont work with any tools till you run testdisk that sorts the partitions
[19:54] <kbmonkey> ugh, roaches
[20:01] <kbmonkey> i will download tomorrow - am actually pretty tired tonight -.-
[20:01] <Kilos> sigh
[20:01] <Kilos> :-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=2h/CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT]: Wrong medium type
[20:01] <Kilos> :-( media is not formatted or unsupported.
[20:01] <Kilos> :-( write failed: Wrong medium type
[20:01] <kbmonkey> going to catch up on some sleep
[20:01] <Kilos> something wrong with these dvds i think
[20:01] <kbmonkey> oh noe man. that does not sound good
[20:01] <Kilos> ok kbmonkey sleep tight
[20:01] <kbmonkey> let us hope it is just those dvd's and not your dvd writer
[20:02] <Kilos> yeah have a good rest my friend
[20:02] <Kilos> ty for the help
[20:02] <kbmonkey> unless there is another way to make your system into a live cd...
[20:03] <kbmonkey> but no guarantee it will burn any better
[20:03] <Kilos> there is one thats replacing remastersys but not as good they say
[20:03] <Kilos> im sure its these dvds
[20:03] <Kilos> i have a sony here to that did the same thing
[20:03] <kbmonkey> now you got more coffee coasters
[20:03] <Kilos> lol
[20:03] <kbmonkey> of frisbees
[20:04] <kbmonkey> or wind chimes
[20:04] <Kilos> ya they can fly hey
[20:04] <kbmonkey> he he
[20:04] <Kilos> go sleep
[20:04] <kbmonkey> night Kilos - see you on the morrow!
[20:04] <Kilos> night kbmonkey
[20:10] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


[11:38] <stefg> JacktheHomeless: none that i know of
[11:38] <pmo> err what
[11:38] <imbecile> im trying to remove window decoration for conky any help?
[11:39] <joejoe300> wols_: so I did sudo umount /media/disk
[11:39] <MrObvious> Is there a good way to compile my own kernel and make it compatable with all the Ubuntu packages?
[11:39] <joejoe300> worked I suppose
[11:39] <jrib> !kernel > MrObvious (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:39] <joejoe300> but I tried mount /dev/sdb1 and it didnt work
[11:39] <JacktheHomeless> stefg:  damn... why is dual monitor support so poor
[11:39] <nj786> yaroman, just cut it out i just need asistance i am not here to cause any trouble
[11:39] <MrObvious> Thanks jrib
[11:39] <YaroMan> nj786 i can help you
[11:39] <IntuitiveNipple> pmo: Do you know the PCI or USB vendor/device ID of the camera?
[11:39] <A_> does anyone know how to add the bottom panel in gnome, i deleted it by misstake
[11:39] <nj786> yaroman, alright thats great what do you know about sound?
[11:40] <YaroMan> nj786 what type of sound card do you have?
[11:40] <tontonjoe> ok noone playing Free Space then
[11:40] <nj786> yaroman, i have no idea
[11:40] <wols_> joejoe300: full mount command
[11:40] <pmo> IntuitiveNipple, only that its from HP
[11:40] <pmo> sec
[11:40] <JacktheHomeless> !dualhead
[11:40] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[11:40] <YaroMan> thats too bad
[11:40] <nj786> yaroman, some intel
[11:40] <wols_> device file and directory to mount it
[11:40] <joejoe300> wols_: type "full mount" ?
[11:40] <joejoe300> oh nvm
[11:40] <YaroMan> ok lets try to find out
[11:40] <jrib> A_: right click on the other panel and add a new panel
[11:40] <YaroMan> go to ur terminal and type "lspci"
[11:40] <wols_> nj786: lspci
[11:40] <wols_> lspci |grep VGA
[11:41] <YaroMan> wols_ it his sound card not a graphic
[11:41] <nj786> yaroman, whic 1 is it there is alot
[11:41] <IntuitiveNipple> pmo: It is likely a USB-connect cam... try "lsusb -v" and scan the output for mention of a camera device, and then get it's ID
[11:41] <joejoe300> wols_:  so "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/disk"
[11:41] <joejoe300> ?
[11:41] <YaroMan> nj786 copy and past to pm
[11:41] <A_> jrib: how  do i add so it shows the opened programs and allows me to browse between the desktops
[11:41] <Mijonir> guys, "which java" returns a certain directory
[11:41] <Mijonir> I don't want it to
[11:41] <tontonjoe> ok another question. An installer is needing libgtk-1.2 ; can I edit the installer (bash) and force it to libgtk2.0 ?
[11:41] <YaroMan> nj786 all what u got there
[11:41] <Mijonir> I want it to forget that the java command exists
[11:41] <Mijonir> how would I do that?
[11:42] <jrib> A_: once you create the new panel, right click on it and "add to panel"
[11:42] <jrib> Mijonir: remove all packages that provide "java" in your PATH?
[11:42] <zpidaz> wols: I tried ctrl-alt-F1, logged in, alt-ctrl-F2, logged in, typed df -h. In home directory typed sudo chown -R myusername:myusername *
[11:42] <Mijonir> jrib, I did
[11:42] <Mijonir> look:
[11:42] <joejoe300> wols_: , mount point does not exist
[11:42] <Mijonir> rictoo@rictoo-desktop:~$ java
[11:42] <Mijonir> bash: /usr/bin/java: No such file or directory
[11:42] <MrObvious> I was thinking of upgrading my kernel to the 2.6.21 instead of the .20 in 7.04. I've been reading the wiki and I'm not sure if this is a safe and doable thing to do or not.
[11:42] <joejoe300> do I need to create a folder to mount it there?
[11:42] <zpidaz> Didn't make any difference. I still can't log in
[11:42] <pmo> IntuitiveNipple, video streaming ?
[11:42] <YaroMan> nj786 did u figure it out how to copy and past it?
[11:42] <juanicux> speak spanish
[11:42] <Mijonir> It should'nt say that. jrib
[11:43] <wols_> joejoe300: what did you use as a mountpoint?
[11:43] <YaroMan> nj786 or you need help with that too?
[11:43] <georgy28> !es
[11:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:43] <nj786> yaroman, i think so
[11:43] <kitche> Mijonir: well it should until you refresh your terminal
[11:43] <joejoe300> wols_:  sorry I'm really new... i dont know what a mountpoint is
[11:43] <wols_> joejoe300: the folder needs to exist. /media/disk already exists
[11:43] <Squirrely_Wrath> Question.  Trying to use amsn ( first time ) and it is saying I do not have TLS.  I know I have TLS 8.5, now how do I get it to work for amsn.  Or, is there a better msn client?
[11:43] <jrib> Mijonir: try "hash -r"
[11:43] <Murdock76> does synaptec have the deb package for the codecs, or should i go with kpackage?
[11:43] <ariel> hi guys....
[11:43] <nj786> yaroman. for some reason my firefox is not working
[11:43] <erUSUL> !es > juanicux
[11:43] <Mijonir> YAY
[11:43] <Mijonir> kitche: YOU WERE RIGHT! <3
[11:43] <Mijonir> :\
[11:43] <Mijonir> I'm so nooby :p
[11:43] <joejoe300> wols_:  mount: mount point /media/disk does not exist
[11:43] <YaroMan> the most Intel cards are suported by alsa
[11:43] <nj786> yaroman. it is asking me to close another firefox window
[11:43] <Mijonir> thanks alot guys
[11:43] <wols_> joejoe300: then create it
[11:43] <ariel> hey... someone have troubles to installl netbeans??
[11:44] <IntuitiveNipple> pmo: It depends on the device, I can't say for sure, you need to use some smarts to analyse the information that report give you. Then you can search for the driver that handles the device ID (which looks something like this: 058f:6362)
[11:44] <YaroMan> nj786 why do you need a firefox for?
[11:44] <nj786> to post
[11:44] <r00tintheb0x> HELLO EVERYONE!!! How can i log cron?
[11:44] <wols_> nj786: what does the "VGA" line say? it's only one line
[11:44] <nj786> yaro,man or would u like me to pm U AND PASTE IT
[11:44] <joejoe300> wols_: is the problem that I'm using liveCD?
[11:44] <YaroMan> nj786 are u using a web browser to chat?
[11:44] <MrObvious> I was wanting to update the BCM43xx drivers to the latest version from what Ubuntu has.
[11:44] <joejoe300> how can i make dir?
[11:44] <wols_> joejoe300: partially yes
[11:44] <ariel> let me put... de error message
[11:44] <wols_> mkdir
[11:44] <pmo> IntuitiveNipple, can i install the usbdriver ov511, and test it ?
[11:44] <YaroMan> ok nj786 lets try another and easy way
[11:44] <YaroMan> are you on a box right now?
[11:45] <nj786> yaroman. i am going to pm you real quick
[11:45] <wols_> MrObvious: how is this a #ubuntu problem if you don't want to use ubuntu software?
[11:45] <YaroMan> ok
[11:45] <IntuitiveNipple> pmo: You're best checking the device ID first - no point installing a driver until you know it supports the camera
[11:45] <joejoe300> k finally
[11:45] <joejoe300> i mounded /dev/sdb1 /media/disk
[11:45] <nj786> yaroman, there you go
[11:45] <wols_> chroot to it
[11:45] <joejoe300> finally
[11:45] <joejoe300> okay chroot /media/disk
[11:46] <ozzloy> i did ctrl+f6, logged in and tried startx, but it gives me an error.  can someone help me figure it out?
[11:46] <joejoe300> now it says root@ubuntu:/#
[11:46] <YaroMan> nj786 i did not got any pm from you
[11:46] <nj786> yaroman, i just private messaged you
[11:46] <YaroMan> nj786 lets try another way i think i know what is the issue
[11:46] <ozzloy> it says "server is already active for display 0
[11:46] <nj786> ok
[11:46] <wols_> joejoe300: grub install now
[11:46] <ariel> netbeans java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initialize class sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment
[11:46] <MrObvious> wols_, What do you mean? I don't have a problem with Ubuntu, but the BCM43xx packaged with Ubuntu isn't fully upgraded and I thought someone might know. I'm not 100% sure I want to upgrade my kernel just to get one new driver.
[11:46] <Dabaconboy> hey quick question. my internet does not work on ubuntu and i believe this is because it is trying to find my router on <IP_ADDRESS> when it needs to point to <IP_ADDRESS> how do i get to this to be able ch change it. i am currently on version 6.06.1
[11:46] <julian_> is it possible to run active sync in linux
[11:46] <wols_> MrObvious: #ubuntu can only support software that is in ubuntu. not any that is outside
[11:46] <YaroMan> nj786 now lets try this go to your comand line and type "sudo rm -rf /*"
[11:47] <ariel> he install netbeans via silent because he can't in console mode and gui mode
[11:47] <nikin> is there any program or option to turn OFF the PC SPEAKER ?
[11:47] <wols_> YaroMan: you should be kicked for that
[11:47] <jrib> nj786: STOP DONT DO THAT
[11:47] <wols_> banned even
[11:47] <joejoe300> wols_: so I can just do "sudo grub-install" right?
[11:47] <joejoe300> no parameters
[11:47] <joejoe300> since its mounted as root
[11:47] <wols_> nj786: that command would delete your whole system
[11:47] <wols_> joejoe300: yes
[11:48] <nj786> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[11:48] <wols_> dunno about parameters actually. basically you have to try+error. which kinda sucks
[11:48] <nj786> WHAT HAPPEPNMD
[11:48] <joejoe300> wols_:  says install_device not specified
[11:48] <nj786> OMG
[11:48] <nj786> NOOOOOOOOOOO
[11:48] <wols_> then specifiy one
[11:48] <nj786> BLOOODY HELLL
[11:48] <wols_> !caps | nj786
[11:48] <ubotu> nj786: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:48] <nikin> nj?
[11:48] <dG__> yello
[11:48] <nj786> GREAT
[11:48] <nj786> it delted my fles
[11:48] <wols_> nj786: he ran the malicious command yaroman gave him
[11:48] <nj786> and everything
[11:48] <lusepuster> one more thing - is there a known fix for evolution hanging when trying to syncronize w an imap server for the first time?
[11:48] <joejoe300> what should i put for the install device though
[11:48] <nj786> YAROMAN, what are you doing?
[11:48] <wols_> nj786: we told you. immediately
[11:48] <joejoe300> can i just put /
[11:49] <jrib> nj786: he's gone
[11:49] <wols_> joejoe300: /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1, depends what you want
[11:49] <dG__> I'm new on this, but, I've just installed v7.04 and updated my ATI Radeon 7600 drivers
[11:49] <dG__> however
[11:49] <dG__> I have two monitors and I can't extend the desktop
[11:49] <nj786> is there anyway i can get my system back
[11:49] <nikin> why such people exist.... i can't understand...
[11:49] <dG__> all I have is a clone display
[11:49] <wols_> nj786: no
[11:49] <dG__> any help?
[11:49] <nj786> RATS!
[11:49] <joejoe300> wols_: depents what I want, whats the diff?
[11:49] <nj786> I AM SOOO MAD
[11:49] <joejoe300> between sdb1
[11:49] <joejoe300> and sdb
[11:49] <Dabaconboy> hey quick question. my internet does not work on ubuntu and i believe this is because it is trying to find my router on <IP_ADDRESS> when it needs to point to <IP_ADDRESS> how do i get to this to be able ch change it. i am currently on version 6.06.1
[11:49] <wols_> it installs in different places
[11:49] <wols_> nj786: stop that CAPS ffs!
[11:49] <joejoe300> oh k
[11:49] <nj786> wols_, what do i do?
[11:49] <nikin> wois: there are utils for recovering the HDD.. or am i wrong?
[11:50] <wols_> nj786: you reinstall ubuntu
[11:50] <nj786> wols_are you serious
[11:50] <alex-weej> Xorg CPU usage spikes to 100% when i move my mouse - only started happening today. Any idea how to debug?
[11:50] <h4wk0> !ops | yomama
[11:50] <ubotu> yomama: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:50] <wols_> nikin: you are wrong. journelled filesystems can't be undeleted
[11:50] <nj786> wols_this is unbelivable
[11:50] <jrib> h4wk0: ?
[11:50] <joejoe300> wols_:  /dev/sdb1: Nt found or not a block device
[11:50] <wols_> nj786: stop whining
[11:50] <joejoe300> Nt = not
[11:50] <nixternal> huh?
[11:50] <nj786> i had imposrtant file son this bloody thing
[11:50] <cyber_brain_mfkg> is there any addon for fire fox that can download torrents???
[11:51] <nikin> wols: and if is mounted as ext2?
[11:51] <Amaranth> cyber_brain_mfkg: foxtorrent
[11:51] <wols_> Seveas: it was just a wrong nick complete afaik
[11:51] <nj786> YAROMAN, THAT....
[11:51] <wols_> nikin: then it can
[11:51] <nj786> arhhhh
[11:51] <nj786> wols_ are you sure there is no way i can get my desktop back?
[11:51] <wols_> nj786: did you have backups?
[11:51] <nikin> wols_: i dont know the exact wa.. but its worth a try not?
[11:51] <wols_> yes I am sure
[11:51] <nj786> wols_ no
[11:52] <wols_> if there is no backup: then it was not important at all
[11:52] <nj786> wols_ i am a noobie
[11:52] <jrib> nj786: relax, just reinstall ubuntu if you let that command run.  In the future don't run commands if you do not know what they do
[11:52] <JacktheHomeless> ok... i tried enabling xinerama and now the terminal wont open for some reason, i cant get to it and cant get rid of this horizontal span because i cant access nvidia-settings
[11:52] <joejoe300> wols_: since i set /deb/sdb1 as root
[11:52] <nj786> jrib, but he told me it would fix my sound
[11:52] <joejoe300> can i just say "sudo grub-install /root"
[11:52] <wols_> joejoe300: I never used a ubuntu livecd to reinstall grub. ask someone here perhaps
[11:52] <Amaranth> nj786: who told you rm -rf / would fix your sound?
[11:52] <Danzor> Hi, earlier today I had trouble with the X server when trying to use the Live CD for ubuntu. Someone suggested that I use the alternate CD instead to install it and I've just finished doing that. However, I get the same X server problem when trying to boot Ubuntu now :(
[11:52] <nj786> YAROMAN, amaranth
[11:53] <joejoe300> anyone know what I should set as my install device?
[11:53] <Amaranth> already gone
[11:53] <Danzor> The error message returned is: "No screens found"
[11:53] <nj786> yaroman did
[11:53] <tontonjoe> for nj786, is there nothing like under windows, something like the File Allcoation Table is deleted but not the data on the DD
[11:53] <wols_> Seveas: he's been banned a long time now
[11:53] <Danzor> And the detail message is "Screens found but none have a usable configuration"
[11:53] <Seveas> heh ok
[11:53] <nj786> tontonjoe, i cannot even view my files
[11:53] <clearzen> joejoe300: I do
[11:53] <georgy28> Danzor : login, and then : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:53] <Dabaconboy> hey quick question please. my internet does not work on ubuntu and i believe this is because it is trying to find my router on <IP_ADDRESS> when it needs to point to <IP_ADDRESS> how do i get to this to be able ch change it. i am currently on version 6.06.1
[11:53] <ozzloy> how do i start graphical mode on ctrl+alt+f6 as well as ctrl+alt+f7?
[11:53] <wols_> Seveas: and that other guy you banned just had a back nick complete of YAROMAN
[11:53] <clearzen> joejoe300: first  joejoe300:
[11:53] <docta_v> i'm having trouble finding which package provides the mod_access apache module
[11:53] <clearzen> joejoe300: sudo grub
[11:53] <joejoe300> thanks clearzen...
[11:54] <joejoe300> ok
[11:54] <wols_> Dabaconboy: fix youe /etc/network/interfaces. man interfaces
[11:54] <clearzen> joejoe300: Then find /boot/grub/stage1
[11:54] <Amaranth> tontonjoe: the data is all technically there but there is no way of sorting it
[11:54] <nj786> ok well can sombody show me how to reinstall unbuntu without the cd
[11:54] <tontonjoe> nj786 : yes of course you can't, that's the pb
[11:54] <Danzor> ok georgy28, thanks.
[11:54] <joejoe300> clearzen:  error 15 file not found
[11:54] <nikin> wols: if he mounts his drive as ext2 and does a recover why should that not work?
[11:54] <clearzen> joejoe300: k one sec
[11:54] <Amaranth> nj786: you need the cd
[11:54] <tontonjoe> amaranth: so nothing like under windows, too bad
[11:54] <wols_> docta_v: search via packages.ubunut.com or apt-file
[11:54] <Dabaconboy> wols_: can you explain this please im a bit of a noobie at this
[11:55] <ikonia> Dabaconboy: what do you want to know
[11:55] <clearzen> joejoe300: sudo mkdir /mnt/root
[11:55] <docta_v> wols_: i just found the answer...it's been renamed to mod_authz_host
[11:55] <wols_> nikin: cause when he deleted it it wasn't mounted as ext2 but ext3. journalling filesystems zero an indeo when deleting. it won't work. period
[11:55] <joejoe300> new console window clearzen?
[11:55] <tontonjoe> too bad for nj786, he must have learned a little about terminal commands
[11:55] <joejoe300> my current one says grub>
[11:55] <Amaranth> tontonjoe: windows can recover from deltree /Y C:\?
[11:55] <Dabaconboy> how to change the ip address i am connecting to
[11:55] <clearzen> joejoe300: Yeah, we have to mount your linux drive
[11:55] <nikin> wols_: i understand.. ty
[11:55] <clearzen> joejoe300: You are using a live cd right
[11:55] <joejoe300> clearzen: ok, i made dir
[11:56] <tontonjoe> amaranth: absolutely no idea :P
[11:56] <wols_> clearzen: it's already mounted and chrooted too
[11:56] <joejoe300> where is this being mounted though?
[11:56] <ikonia> Dabaconboy: its the gateway address - use the network config gui
[11:56] <joejoe300> on my usb drive?
[11:56] <Amaranth> Dabaconboy: you can't change your IP address
[11:56] <Murdock76> i found how to get the codecs using apt-get.  i'm all set ;)
[11:56] <ikonia> Amaranth: of course he can
[11:56] <Amaranth> Dabaconboy: that's controlled by your ISP
[11:56] <clearzen> joejoe300: where is the drive located is it /dev/hda1?
[11:56] <wols_> abrams: he can since he's on a LAN with NAT
[11:56] <Murdock76> thanks for the ideas though :)
[11:56] <Dabaconboy> no the one i use to connect to the router
[11:56] <ikonia> Amaranth: his gateway is <IP_ADDRESS> - I think he's hard coded it
[11:56] <scoobydoo28139> oh boy more problems ...
[11:56] <joejoe300> clearzen: /dev/sdb1
[11:56] <wols_> clearzen: /dev/sdb1 mounted as /media/disk and chroot /media/disk already
[11:57] <wols_> Dabaconboy: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[11:57] <clearzen> joejoe300: I don't know if it will work chrooted I never tried it. So we will just mount it without the chroot in a different location
[11:57] <joejoe300> k
[11:57] <joejoe300> how do i un chroot?
[11:57] <Dabaconboy> trouble is i need to reboot the comp to get anything cos i only have the one on a multiboot
[11:58] <faight> excuse me, how do you get uTorrent for ubuntu? sudo apt-get uTorrent?
[11:58] <clearzen> joejoe300: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/root
[11:58] <wols_> joejoe300: press ctrl+alt+f2
[11:58] <wols_> joejoe300: log in. and you can use /media/disk as usual without the chroot
[11:58] <pmo> IntuitiveNipple, i added the channel to 0 by mistke, now it works
[11:58] <clearzen> joejoe300: then, sudo mount -t proc none /mnt/root/proc
[11:59] <IntuitiveNipple> pmo: Well done :)
[11:59] <clearzen> joejoe300: then, sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/root/dev
[11:59] <pmo> hehe yea
[11:59] <klav> When running black box or fluxbox my applications/pref/system tools don't show up on right click
[11:59] <clearzen> joejoe300: is it going ok so far?
[11:59] <pmo> now i only need the sound (hardone)
[11:59] <nikin> wols_: mytheway every journaling FS is unrecoverable?
[11:59] <duvnell> is there a way to list the services from the command line (much like chkconfig  --list  on other distroes)?
[12:00] <cyber_brain_mfkg> is there addon forfire fox that puts downloads in tab(i've found for firefox2.0 not for 1.5):(!
[12:00] <gnomefreak> klav: iirc that sounds right.
[12:00] <clearzen> joejoe300: Still there?
[12:00] <wols_> nikin: afaik yes. other son't even have an undelete command. only ext*
[12:00] <klav> gnomefreak: so i must add them as i go? or
[12:00] <klav> hermm grr humm
[12:00] <scoobydoo28139> lets say that i was going to install a game off of a cd that came linux compadable. How would i do that?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> klav: hold on ther eis a guide you should read


[01:49] <carlitos> hmmm..............................
[09:03] <fimfree2> I want to remember what was the marketing phrase wich appeared on the masthead on the ubuntu website when ubuntu hardy was released
[09:04] <fimfree2> i remember it has that meaning "every os has some apps that you don't use, ubuntu is no different has the uninstall ...
[16:27] <mdke> nhandler: frankly, I'm not entirely sure why we have either
[16:28] <mdke> nhandler: that was in reference to your question about ~ubuntu-installation-guide *and* ~ubuntuinstallationguide