[01:21] <ryoohki> theunixgeek: thanks!
[01:21] <fluidd> Hello.  Anyone point me to anything for power management?  8.04.. trying to throttle my processor in my laptop.
[01:21] <sammy> cappicard: consider picking a closer mirror
[01:21] <theunixgeek> ryoohki: (read the topic)
[01:21] <unop> mattycoze, but rathe that download the iso .. you might as well upgrade directly - see !upgrade if you are interested
[01:21] <DrX> I want to partition a 465G RAID 5 array to hold mission-critical data for optimal flexibility so it can hold Linux & Windows (NTFS) partitions that can be easily resized and grown onto additional drives -- what do you all suggest?
[01:22] <_ZeuZ_> Guys, is there any package in Ubuntu Server for Per-Host-In-The-Network bandwidth allowance control? Without having to use TCNG directly nor recurring to htb-gen nor htb.init ? I don-t want to use CBQ either...
[01:22] <Ertyle> ryoohki: this is it, but #ubuntu-release-party if it's not a support question
[01:22] <theunixgeek> cappicard: torrent (see titlte)
[01:22] <theunixgeek> *topic
[01:22] <navetz_> is there a way to fix apt-get?
[01:22] <sammy> or the torrent. right.
[01:22] <jwwadk> is anyone else having problems with brightness settings using hardy?
[01:22] <dabbill> no matter what i do i cant get my nvidia driver to take for my 8800GT, tried useing envyng, installing straight from nvidia website. Every time i reboot the computer it goes back in to low graphics mode. Also when i try to run nvidia-settings it says i am not useing the nvidia driver.
[01:22] <oddalot> anyone know how to get emerald themes in 8.04?
[01:22] <_ZeuZ_> dabill: get rid of the "bulletproof config"
[01:22] <mattycoze> yeh unop too late :P i downloaded the iso last night without thining too much
[01:22] <gluer> can i do a hardy upgrade from the full iso?
[01:22] <_ZeuZ_> dabill: manually edit the xorg.conf
[01:22] <_ZeuZ_> it's not hard
[01:23] <unop> mattycoze, shoulda come in here first :)
[01:23] <_ZeuZ_> you'll only have to remove a couple of lines
[01:23] <cappicard> ah, that got released?
[01:23] <dabbill> _ZeuZ_, tried many of times
[01:23] <oddalot> dabill...i had problems, i had to open the display thingy...it's not in the system menu anymore
[01:23] <cappicard> i'm still on gutsy. didn't know there was a new release. lol
[01:23] <mattycoze> unop yeah i was, there was already talk about the servers being blitzed
[01:23] <raving> Does anybody know of a torrent for 8.04?
[01:23] <_ZeuZ_> dabbill, seems like not correctly xD
[01:23] <Ertyle> raving: type /topic
[01:23] <Zasch> Hello. I'm trying to upgrade to the new release of ubuntu, but whenever I try it Update Manager just freezes up
[01:23] <linkmaster03> raving: look at the topic title geez
[01:23] <_ZeuZ_> want to see mine?
[01:23] <oddalot> raving topic
[01:23] <raving> oddalot, ahh, I apologize.
[01:23] <Ertyle> !topic
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[01:24] <ryoohki> how do i add autohome for nfs - i added autohome to nsswitch.conf which used to work but didn't work now - everything else is working as far as nis is concerned
[01:24] <dabbill> _ZeuZ_, i had it working perfict in 7.10, but cant get it to work in 8.04
[01:24] <oddalot> anyone here got emerald working?
[01:24] <unop> mattycoze, ohh, ahh well - not to worry, you can redistribute the ISO to friends and family :)
[01:24] <sammy> Zasch: it's probably having a hard time talking to the servers, mine did that too. try running aptitude and picking a closer mirror to download from.
[01:24] <cabrioleur> fsufitch, have you tried the integrated gnome menu?
[01:24] <_ZeuZ_> dabbill, I'm on Hardy
[01:24] <mohbana> can i install from a ntfs partion, i don't have a dvd handy
[01:24] <JPSmon> cappicard:  stick with the old for a while till we get these bugs worked out
[01:24] <mohbana> without using wubi
[01:24] <sammy> Zasch: I mean synaptic, not aptitude.
[01:24] <seamus7> Zasch today is the first day of the release ... the servers always get slammed on day's like today ... just be patient
[01:24] <_ZeuZ_> PM me so I can show you
[01:24] <Ertyle> mohbana: i don't think so
[01:24] <dabbill> _ZeuZ_, what do you have the driver set as? nvidia or nv ?
[01:24] <_ZeuZ_> and help you
[01:24] <cappicard> ok, i agree on that.
[01:24] <_ZeuZ_> nvidia
[01:24] <bradlis7> hm, nvidia still not showing up in restricted drivers
[01:24] <fsufitch> cabrioleur: yes, i can get it workngi under gnome, but i prefer using my kde. is there a way to access the gnome menu in kde?
[01:24] <bazhang> mohbana: from within windows? try unetbootin or wubi then
[01:24] <altj> does Hardy have mysql 5.1?
[01:25] <Ertyle> !info mysql hardy | altj
[01:25] <ubotu> altj: Package mysql does not exist in hardy
[01:25] <cappicard> wubi works like a charm the last time I tried it
[01:25] <SeaPhor> _ZeuZ_, invite me too, i'm about to upgrade
[01:25] <_ZeuZ_> dabbill, remember to identify first
[01:25] <towlieban> altj no you have to install it seperately
[01:25] <KalEl> hi.. can't join to #ubuntu+1
[01:25] <_ZeuZ_> SeaPhor, IRC dos not have that capability
[01:25] <Zasch> sammy: How do I do that?
[01:25] <mattycoze> heh; http://digg.com/linux_unix/Massive_Desktop_Linux_deployment_52_MILLION_new_users
[01:25] <Ertyle> altj: i see only 5.0
[01:25] <_ZeuZ_> KalEl, ??
[01:25] <theunixgeek> KalEl: that's because hardy's been released
[01:25] <theunixgeek> KalEl: read the topic
[01:25] <seamus7> KalEl: this channel is now focused on Hardy
[01:25] <theunixgeek> !topic
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[01:25] <Ertyle> !info mysql-server | altj
[01:25] <ubotu> altj: mysql-server (source: mysql-dfsg-5.0): MySQL database server (meta package depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5 (hardy), package size 52 kB, installed size 88 kB
[01:25] <IcemanV9> KalEl: it's closed
[01:25] <ryoohki> hmm. i seem to be missing nfs-common
[01:25] <dny> My update manager isn't showing any new updates, is it because the servers are busy or something else? :x
[01:25] <_ZeuZ_> SeaPhor: identify and PM me
[01:25] <theunixgeek> dny: probably
[01:26] <Shpook> Hello everyone, I have a laptop and I want to use the vga output to my tv, but I'm getting no video out of it. Is there a way to enable video output?
[01:26] <KalEl> oh great!
[01:26] <SeaPhor> _ZeuZ_, sure it does ;-) #SeaPhor
[01:26] <jords> servers are dead
[01:26] <Starnestommy> dny: the servers are very busy
[01:26] <nickrober> anyone else having scratchy sound problems?
[01:26] <_ZeuZ_> x'D
[01:26] <cabrioleur> fsufitch, gnome-display-properties
[01:26] <_ZeuZ_> create a channel is not the same xD
[01:26] <_ZeuZ_> though Here I go
[01:26] <bd__> yea my update manager keeps crashing when I try to upgrade
[01:26] <boolka> how do i turn on svideo output on my laptop? ( the function key + f4  dont work - did in windows) ?
[01:26] <Ertyle> KalEl: try #ubuntu-release-party perhaps :)
[01:26] <Daisuke_Ido> Shpook, you'll probably have to use a fn key combo
[01:26] <bmk789> anyone else seeing high CPU usage with FF3 beta 5?
[01:26] <dny> well i knew they were busy, but i didn't know if that'd be the reason.  mine doesn't crash like everyone elses seems to do, it just doesn't show any new updates. :/
[01:26] <simonft2> bmk789: nope
[01:26] <bazhang> bmk789: what extensions yo have loaded
[01:26] <goat|work> anyone know why  the hardy update manager will not check the CD before requesting files from the repos... I have the CD option set in the software sources, and inserted, and I've unchecked the internet sources in the gutsy software sources
[01:26] <cabrioleur> fsufitch, also, here http://sernaonubuntu.wikidot.com/multiple-monitors is an interesting article how to modify xorg.conf (based on integrated intel card)
[01:26] <simonft2> bmk789: much less than ever
[01:26] <sammy> Zasch: synaptic package manager should be easy to find, look with the other administration tools. you're going to open the 'repositories' item in the menus, and there should be a drop-down list to select your mirror. you can then select 'other' and click the button to find your closest mirror.
[01:27] <Shpook> Daisuke_Ido: Sorry, I meant to mention that I tried that and it didn't work.
[01:27] <KalEl> Ertyle :)
[01:27] <fsufitch> cabrioleur: thx! i'll try
[01:27] <jwwadk> does anyone know how to control screen brightness without using the power manager?
[01:27] <Pc_Madness> are the repositories overloaded atm? :\
[01:27] <bmk789> bazhang: good question, ill try to disable a few and see what it does
[01:27] <linkmaster03> What is the GTK library package name?
[01:27] <JPSmon> goat|work: is it the alternat install CD?
[01:27] <scizzo-> Pc_Madness: yes
[01:27] <goat|work> JPSmon: no desktop
[01:27] <Pc_Madness> bah :(
[01:27] <Pc_Madness> eta?
[01:27] <ANTDx1> libgtk?
[01:27] <nickrober> anyone else having scratchy sound problems?
[01:27] <scizzo-> Pc_Madness: hard to say since they are hammered with traffic really
[01:27] <goat|work> Pc_Madness: eta is now,  its just super slow
[01:27] <Starnestommy> linkmaster03: libgtk2.0-0
[01:28] <Shpook> Was it nvidia-settings or something that used to allow dual monitors?
[01:28] <seamus7> jwwadk I am able to adjust screen brightness by doing FN + arrowup/arrowdown
[01:28] <linkmaster03> thanks Starnestommy
[01:28] <goat|work> JPSmon: why wouldn't the desktop work over the alt install cd?
[01:28] <goat|work> as a software source
[01:28] <Shpook> seamus7: I'm basically trying to do the same thing as you, except with a cga output instead of s-video.
[01:28] <smallfoot-> which i should install gnash, swfdef or adobe?
[01:28] <Pc_Madness> did Ubuntu mobile get released last night as well?
[01:29] <MP2E> Hello all
[01:29] <cabrioleur> Shpook, yes, nvidia-settings can modify xorg.conf to let you use multiple screens.
[01:29] <bazhang> goat|work: just not made to do that
[01:29] <JPSmon> goat|work: hrm I dunno.
[01:29] <MP2E> Wow this is epic
[01:29] <MP2E> an IRC that is actually used
[01:29] <corden> guys quick question does server edition has default gui or you have to install it manually?
[01:29] <naer_dinsul> For some reason my postgresql installation has inexplicably quit working.  It fails with an error: 'could not load root certificate file "root.crt": no SSL error reported'
[01:29] <bazhang> Pc_Madness: likely not
[01:29] <_ZeuZ_> Guys, is there any package in Ubuntu Server for Per-Host-In-The-Network bandwidth allowance control? Without having to use TCNG directly nor recurring to htb-gen nor htb.init ? I don-t want to use CBQ either...
[01:29] <Shpook> cabrioleur: Thank you, hopefully it will allow me to enable the vga output on my laptop.
[01:29] <jwwadk> seamus7: thanks, but the hotkeys are different on my laptop. i was thinking more of a software-based solution
[01:29] <Pc_Madness> bugger :(
[01:29] <bazhang> corden: need to install
[01:29] <bmk789> bazhang: I disabled a bunch that didnt work anyway and now it seems to be behaving correctly, thanks
[01:29] <jcwilliams> Anyone up for helping a newbie with an Install problem?
[01:29] <goat|work> bazhang: so the alt install would be identified?  damn, had i known :-)
[01:29] <raiderxx> I read online about a family tree making program. Does that come preinstalled, or do I have to download it, and if so, what is it called?
[01:30] <jvai_> i'm ghost everyone.. peac
[01:30] <corden> bazhang, so i need inet connection so that i can download the gui?
[01:30] <MentalNotes> Does anybody know what's happened to the Gobuntu Hardy release? The latest build on cdimage.ubuntu.com was a daily from 4 days ago
[01:30] <MP2E> Well I'm having problems installing Ubuntu 7.10 on an SiS 630/730 Integrated system along with an AMD Athlon 32-bit processor
[01:30] <linkmaster03> jcwilliams: it might help if you tell us what your problem is. don't ask to ask a question
[01:30] <KalEl> archive.ubuntu.com clogged
[01:30] <bazhang> goat|work: many new packages are just not on the livecd; if you have hardy already you dont need either cd
[01:30] <Shpook> Wow, servers must be slammed with the release. I'm only getting 15kbps when I usually get 400-500+
[01:30] <dny> does virtualbox need a lot of power to run?
[01:30] <MP2E> Ubuntu's installer crashes on BusyBox
[01:30] <bazhang> corden: would be helpful yes
[01:30] <MP2E> :/
[01:30] <goat|work> bazhang: thanks
[01:30] <cycom> I'm not even getting a connection yet.  I've heard reports that it's taking like 5 minutes :)
[01:31] <bmk789> i hope people are using the torrents instead of downloading images via http/ftp *cough cough*
[01:31] <bazhang> MP2E: check the md5sum for that disk
[01:31] <corden> oic, i thinking if the gui it on the cd, just need to be install. bazhang
[01:31] <raiderxx> Anyone know?
[01:31] <MP2E> Did
[01:31] <Zicks> osmosis emerald under hardy heron doesnt work --- but fix is emerald --replace
[01:31] <jcwilliams> I am trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 on an XPS 420.  I think my video card is the problem.  I am running an Nvidia Geforce 8800GT
[01:31] <Zasch> instead of trying to upgrade through update manager, would it be faster to just download the CD?
[01:31] <cycom> bmk789: I think it's more the dist-upgrade folks
[01:31] <MP2E> bazhang: I have previously installed Ubuntu from that same disk
[01:31] <Paulius> How can I enable SSH on Hardy?
[01:31] <JPSmon> bmk789: I would help with that if my internet wasn't screwed up
[01:31] <MP2E> But on a different system
[01:31] <cycom> Paulius: sudo apt-get install ssh
[01:31] <ANTDx1> Paulius, install the openssh package
[01:31] <MP2E> could a scratch possibley have messed it up?
[01:31] <cycom> Paulius: it does the rest ;)
[01:31] <MP2E> But Disk Check doesn't work either
[01:31] <bmk789> cycom: ya but arent the images hosted on the same server?
[01:31] <x1250> Paulius: openssh-server or -client
[01:31] <DrX> if your hardware RAID controller lets you dynamically grow volume groups, do you still need to you LVM to grow partitions?
[01:31] <Paulius> cycom, ANTDx1: It says "package obsolete" on both.
[01:32] <bazhang> Zasch: likely both are slow at this point--torrents would be fastest
[01:32] <ANTDx1> hmm
[01:32] <sammy> oh, look at that, I wonder whats in /boot/grub/default? nope. thats not it.
[01:32] <linkmaster03> cabrioleur: I just installed xsane from source, this still shows and exits Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:32] <goat|work> raiderxx: if you don't know the program name, its hard to identify if its on the OS, but i haven't heard of any
[01:32] <bmk789> cycom: or at least using the same bandwidth
[01:32] <ANTDx1> try openssh-server, like someone else said
[01:32] <Zasch> bazhang: where can I find a torrent?
[01:32] <Shadow_X> anyone know of a good clone of the mac os x dock? OTHER than karamba?
[01:32] <lucky> i screwed up my xorg.conf file and i can't get bulletproofX to start and i don't have an xorg conf file i can use to start xorg around. any suggestions on how to get a working xorg ?
[01:32] <cycom> bmk789: presumably, but I don't think most people are going and downloading an ISO right now
[01:32] <bazhang> zasch read the topic
[01:32] <goat|work> Shadow_X: awn
[01:32] <bazhang> Shadow_X: awn
[01:32] <sammy> would anyone happen to know where debconf is getting the UUID for my root partition to put into my grub configuration? I've moved it and it thinks it's in the same place and I have no idea where it's set
[01:32] <cycom> bmk789: we should ask Mr. Shuttleworth to publish the download stats on the individual files.
[01:33] <bmk789> cycom: good idea
[01:33] <macchiea> i would like to do a complete reinstall, how can I get a list of all the packages I've installed?
[01:33] <`KoRn>  /join #ubuntu-women
[01:33] <qworty> am I online?
[01:33] <raiderxx> goat|work: it was mentioned here: http://www.fsckin.com/2008/03/28/ubuntu-hardy-heron-804-release-notes-rewritten-in-plain-english/
[01:33] <unop> sammy, perhaps from /dev/disk/by-uuid/  -- see also man volname, man vol_id
[01:33] <IcemanV9> qworty: read you just fine :)
[01:33] <raiderxx> goat|work: it says "We added in a program for making posters, signs, family tree charts, and everything else that you might think about taking to a print shop. "
[01:33] <bazhang> macchiea: dpkg -l
[01:33] <seamus7> Wonder why 8.04 isn't mentioned in a big flashy banner on ubuntu.com home? that's odd.
[01:33] <cycom> bmk789: I'm tempted to download all the torrents just to help seed :)
[01:34] <MP2E> Uh seamus7: it is
[01:34] <qworty> IcemanV9: So this is the internet?
[01:34] <MP2E> Update your Cache
[01:34] <Shadow_X> is awn in the repository? or do ya have to add another repo?
[01:34] <cycom> seamus7: hehehe
[01:34] <bmk789> cycom: thats what im doing now :) ive got a megabit up overnight
[01:34] <ANTDx1> seamus7, because adblock seems to be blocking it...
[01:34] <IcemanV9> macchiea: dpkg -l > installed_pkg.txt
[01:34] <RoAkSoAx> Shadow_X, it is in the repository
[01:34] <SkogsTrollet> yes! äntligen!
[01:34] <Shadow_X> hrmm I cant find it >.>
[01:34] <kilrae> i installed with lvm from the alternate cd and have no grub or bootsplash, is this normal?
[01:34] <seamus7> ANTDx1: hee hee ... that was it .. AdBlock ... now I see it lol
[01:34] <IcemanV9> qworty: this is irc chat room ... online
[01:34] <sammy> unop: that's almost what I'm looking for. I've changed my menu.1st, and debconf, updating grub, wants to set the root BACK to my old partition.
[01:34] <krasher> Hey i can't get my desktop in 1024x768 using a Geforce FX-5200 and a LG StudioWorks 55i in Hardy Heron... anyone can help me? i had trouble getting this to work at 7.10... but i can't remeber what i did :(
[01:34] <munkie> how do you install the flash player
[01:35] <qworty> IcemanV9: how do I uninstall the internet?
[01:35] <MP2E> lawl
[01:35] <SkogsTrollet> den här versionen av ubuntu fungerar smärtfritt!
[01:35] <MP2E> Uninstall the internet
[01:35] <DanaG> http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/hardy/
[01:35] <MP2E> LUlz
[01:35] <sammy> unop: so I already know the correct UUID, I just have no idea where to tell ubuntu where I've moved it to so I don't have to manually edit menu.1st regularly
[01:35] <goat|work> raiderxx: interesting... i'm looking for the prog
[01:35] <DanaG> Mirror works.
[01:35] <Dasuraga> I had a fX-5200, the only way to get it to work is by editing the xorg.conf
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> !lol | MP2E
[01:35] <ubotu> MP2E: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[01:35] <DanaG> Just check dates.
[01:35] <DanaG> What should the "official" date be?
[01:35] <raiderxx> goat|work: Thanks a lot! I would, but I'm so new to this..
[01:35] <IcemanV9> qworty: what do you mean?
 cabrioleur: I just installed xsane from source, this still shows and exits Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:35] <unop> sammy, maybe update-grub does that for you .. not sure
[01:36] <DanaG> Date and time, I mean.
[01:36] <sammy> unop: thanks anyway. I'll go poking around.
[01:36] <MP2E> Brb
[01:36] <Gummi> hi
[01:36] <|ns|nR8> anyone tried dual monitor support yet in 8.04 ? i couldnt get it going correctly in 7.10...
[01:36] <qworty> IcemanV9: Well... I didnt actually choose to install the internet... it just kind of came with my laptop. To be honest its rather rubbish, I cant download cake. How do I uninstall it?
[01:36] <rhanthony> Anyone here run a DNS server? recommendations for which package to go with?
[01:36] <manuel__> So have anybody heard of the WHITE SCREEN OF DEATH issue ??? I used envy to install the latest ATI driver, and now a white screen appears when I start gnome .... any idea???
[01:37] <rhanthony> apt-get says bind is missing or unknown
[01:37] <RoAkSoAx> rhanthony, sudo apt-get install bind9
[01:37] <krasher> Hey i can't get my desktop in 1024x768 using a Geforce FX-5200 and a LG StudioWorks 55i in Hardy Heron... anyone can help me? i had trouble getting this to work at 7.10... but i can't remeber what i did :(
[01:37] <goat|work> raiderxx: its called Inkscape
[01:37] <jedimasterk> Is using thew Alternate CD better than the basic cd
[01:37] <eternal_p> rhanthony: named works well too
[01:37] <goat|work> !inkscape
[01:37] <ubotu> Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[01:37] <rhanthony> RoAkSoAx: danke
[01:37] <Dasuraga> krasher:xorg.comf
[01:37] <raiderxx> goat|work: Thank you! You guys are amazing on here!
[01:38] <DBautell> jedimasterk, yes and no, depending on your needs and circumstances
[01:38] <linkmaster03> cabrioleur: I just installed xsane from source, this still shows and exits Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:38] <dr_roboto> morning all
[01:38] <macabro22> doodes. My upgrade process is halting at "authenticate '/tmp/tmpzy117N/hardy.tar.gz' against '/tmp/tmpzy117N/hardy.tar.gz.gpg'
[01:38] <vbabiy-laptop> Hey does canonical have any idea of how many installs they had today?
[01:38] <IcemanV9> jedimasterk: if you want to install via text console, then alter cd is good to use
[01:38] <goat|work> raiderxx: you asked if it was installed, i think its not, but its available in Synaptic once you have Hardy installed
[01:38] <qworty> Does anyone here know how to uninstall the internet? IcemanV9 is unable to help.
[01:39] <[-Ghost-]> n
[01:39] <the7thmagus> hey guys, I know you must be busy with Hardy installs. just wondering if I should get the x64 version? I have a 64 bit processor, but are there going to be software incompatibilities with 32 bit software?
[01:39] <Abd> 100 files to go
[01:39] <red22> .
[01:39] <goat|work> qworty: unplug the cable or disable the wireless?
[01:39] <tomd123> qworty: if you don't know what you're talking about, I suggest googling it
[01:39] <krasher> Dasuraga: what?
[01:39] <bazhang> qworty: interesting question but not clear
[01:39] <IcemanV9> sorry, qworty. i do not understand your problem.
[01:39] <Mark_G> the7thmagus: stick with 32 until you're more experienced with compiling..
[01:40] <the7thmagus> alright. thanks
[01:40] <monsieurledan> smoooooth
[01:40] <qworty> goat|work: I have, but its spread to my family and friends computers. I didnt install it, but I cant uninstall it
[01:40] <Abd> the7thmagus you'll have a mcuh better peformance using a 64 bit OS on a 64 bit processor
[01:40] <moDumass> hey all, im goin through the distro upgrade process, and ive had a popup saying "Replace the customised configuration file '/etc/sysctl.conf'?" and im not soo sure if i should, any ideas?
[01:40] <lopin> I can't upgrade with the CD
[01:40] <lopin> It's locking up
[01:40] <qworty> tomd123: I tried googling it, but I keep being told that I need to grow up
[01:40] <moDumass> would it be safe to oversrite this file
[01:40] <sean_> tanath: I even tried using my old xorg.conf and that didn't help. =(
[01:40] <DanaG> yay, mirrors.kernel.org.
[01:40] <duaneb> hey, can anyone else connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[01:40] <the_darkside_986> can someone help me with Hardy? I cannot figure out how to make it not go so slowly and laggy in every aspect.
[01:41] <goat|work> qworty: the internet has spread to your family and friends computers?  i think its too late man
[01:41] <bazhang> qworty: what is the internet--this sounds like offtopic not a ubuntu supprot question
[01:41] <linkmaster03> I just installed xsane from source after having this problem on a normal install, this still shows and exits Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:41] <Noah0504> Are the Ubuntu repos down?
[01:41] <bazhang> !ot | qworty
[01:41] <ubotu> qworty: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:41] <Dasuraga> krasher:http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
[01:41] <lopin> duaneb: Servers are being really hit hard
[01:41] <duaneb> are there and ubuntu mirrors?
[01:41] <seamus7> moDumass: just back it up and allow the upgrade to continue .. then you're covered.
[01:41] <tanath> no, i think you prolly had that right. looks like a compiz/xgl issue
[01:41] <McJester82> hope come when I boot my PPC, my screen is blank, but if I go to TTY and the straight back to F7, the screen appears
[01:41] <Mark_G> qworty: so you want to uninstall the internet?
[01:41] <Dasuraga> scroll down to tweaking xorg.com
[01:41] <DanaG> Use other servers.
[01:41] <Dasuraga> *.conf
[01:41] <McJester82> *how
[01:41] <DanaG> Look for
[01:41] <DanaG> argh, **** apostrophe key.
[01:41] <DanaG> Look for internet2 mirrors, if in the USA.
[01:42] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 did you upgrade or is it a fresh install
[01:42] <qworty> bazhang: Its uninstalling the internet on Ubuntu... so yes I believe it is relevant
[01:42] <the_darkside_986> Fresh install
[01:42] <moDumass> seamus you are so much smarter than me
[01:42] <Abd> Noah0504 No, they are just too slow
[01:42] <duaneb> DanaG: sorry, could you explain more?
[01:42] <rhanthony> What do i do if my root password is not working?
[01:42] <linkmaster03> I just installed xsane from source after having this problem on a normal install, this still shows and exits immedietly with: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:42] <bazhang> qworty: please stop now
[01:42] <seamus7> seamus7 not sure
[01:42] <tomd123> the_darkside_986: nice
[01:42] <Starnestommy> rhanthony: you don't nned the root password. use sudo instead
[01:42] <duaneb> rhanthony: do you have your regular account?
[01:42] <duaneb> do a 'sudo passwd'
[01:42] <Noah0504> Abd: Okay.  I figured it had something to do with the release.  I was trying to install some restricted drivers and it fails big time.
[01:42] <rhanthony> Is there a way to recover it?  I dont remember even putting one in during setup.
[01:42] <Noah0504> haha
[01:42] <tomd123> my install isn't fresh anymore, :_(
[01:42] <MentalNotes> the_darkside_98: do you have compiz enabled?
[01:43] <rhanthony> I have my regular accts yes... but I'd like to not have to type sudo each and every time I wanna do something.
[01:43] <the_darkside_986> nope. And it takes very long to boot up compared to Gutsy, and starting up GDM is extremely laggy and causes my CPU fan to spin for a long while. well now it quit
[01:43] <qworty> bazhang: I will stop. But just so you and anyone who reads this knows, the internet is a virus... and it could be coming to a computer near you!!
[01:43] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger,
[01:43] <x1250> rhanthony: try $ sudo -s, or $ sudo su
[01:43] <linkmaster03> rhanthony: sudo -i makes the terminal root
[01:43] <MP2E> Ok I checked the MD5 and integrity of my Ubuntu 7.10 disk and it's fine, however the install on THIS computer fails on busybox
[01:43] <the_darkside_986> it is slow and laggy regardless of whether i have compiz or proprietary nvidia installed.
[01:43] <MP2E> While on my other comp I can install the whole thing easily
[01:43] <pure`eigenVector> is there a howto gusty->hardy upgrade guide when using the torrent download?
[01:43] <DBautell> rhanthony, ubuntu discourages logging in as root, and does not let you pick the password unless you sudo su and change it
[01:43] <moveax> hello. I'm trying to install a MetaCity theme for Gnome 2.22.1 on the latest Ubuntu release. When I click 'Install' and navigate to the theme tar.gz file and click Open, the appearance preferences dialog tells me it has installed correctly. However, the theme isn't in the list of available themes. What am I doing wrong here?
[01:43] <rhanthony> sweet cheesus... thank you!
[01:44] <rhanthony> So, I don't know what my root pass is?  I have to sudo su, and then set it?
[01:44] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 wouldn't you have nvidia drivers with compiz enabled on top?
[01:44] <mneptok> rhanthony: do not set a root password
[01:44] <DanaG> warning: PDF:   www.internet2.edu/resources/Internet2MembersList.PDF  -- list
[01:44] <KyleK> moveax: i just drag and drop things perosnally
[01:44] <jedimasterk> Is using thew Alternate CD better than the basic cd
[01:44] <MP2E> This comp is an SiS 630/730 with an AMD Athlon 32-bit (old thing)
[01:44] <mneptok> rhanthony: use sudo -i if you need to run more than one command
[01:44] <bazhang> rhanthony: root on irc? hahahaha
[01:44] <the_darkside_986> It is slow even after I had installed nvidia-glx AND turned off compiz.
[01:44] <qworty> jedimasterk: Twice as good
[01:44] <rhanthony> mneptok: is not having a root pass, safe?
[01:44] <DanaG> List of members of internet2; it's a really fast network, and most members will have very large 'pipes' to them.
[01:44] <rhanthony> NOT going to irc as root... no.
[01:44] <mneptok> rhanthony: a hell of a lot safer than setting one
[01:44] <bazhang> jedimasterk: for doing what
[01:44] <rhanthony> in another ssh, want to just get alot of named/apache setup done
[01:44] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 what kind of computer?
[01:44] <Starnestommy> rhanthony: it makes it much harder for crackers to gain control and sudo logs things, unlike root logins
[01:45] <KyleK> moveax: click customize maybe?
[01:45] <moDumass> DanaG I keep clogging my pipes with pictures
[01:45] <DanaG> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[01:45] <the_darkside_986> Not sure if slow is the best way to describe things.  Compaq presario with 1024 MB of RAM and a celery CPU. Gutsy does not give this problem.
[01:45] <Jobias> stupid question, how do i know which version of ubuntu i'm running? i had a rough time upgrading, and i'm not sure whether i'm running 8.04 proper, or whether i'm still on the release candidate
[01:45] <moDumass> because you cant fold them, so zipping doesnt work
[01:45] <KyleK> moDumass: tubes
[01:45] <DanaG> Find things that are on both of those; also check dates on downloads.
[01:45] <moveax> KyleK: The theme isn't in the list - how do I customize something that isn't available?
[01:45] <hwilde> Jobias, cat /etc/lsb-release
[01:45] <rhanthony> Ok. Thanks for the tips.
[01:45] <KyleK> Jobias: rc -> final is so not a dist-upgrade
[01:45] <compengi> Hello.. i'm facing a little problem with my vga after installing hardy. i installed the restricted drivers, but my resolution when to 640x480. and there is no higher option.
[01:45] <rhanthony> And thanks for no one yelling RTFM or GTFO.
[01:45] <bazhang> lsb_release -a Jobias
[01:45] <rhanthony> :)
[01:45] <Mister-Toti> sera
[01:45] <IcemanV9> Jobias: in the terminal, type lsb_release -a
[01:45] <KyleK> Jobias: its just an apt-get upgrade :p
[01:45] <ubuntu__> hi
[01:45] <moveax> KyleK: And dragging the file in resulted in the same 'Install OK' dialog, but no new theme.
[01:45] <iznuics> the_darkside_986: go to terminal and type top to see what's hogging the cpu
[01:45] <Jobias> hwilde: thanks
[01:45] <moDumass> Kylec, theyre the same thing - the old ones are metal and the new ones are plastic, thats the only difference
[01:46] <DanaG> !info htop
[01:46] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 have you looked into 'tracker' ... it can hog resources ... it's the default indexing service for system wide searches .. you can throttle it
[01:46] <ubotu> htop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.6+svn20070915-1 (hardy), package size 45 kB, installed size 176 kB
[01:46] <moDumass> ppictures sti;; clog them though
[01:46] <DanaG> very handy tool: htop
[01:46] <Jobias> KyleK: ah, good to know :D
[01:46] <duaneb> DARN us.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:46] <KyleK> moveax: click customize, they didn't design it right
[01:46] <jedimasterk> I am having trouble using the live cd iso. When I boot I get (initramfs) blinking cursor. Tried to burns from two different mirrors. No luck. Should I try an upgrade from alternate cd instead.
[01:46] <Jobias> IcemanV9: thanks
[01:46] <DanaG> Find a different mirror.
[01:46] <MentalNotes> moveax: you might have to customize an existing theme
[01:46] <rhanthony> another question, does anyone know of a good ircd?
[01:46] <iznuics> duaneb: pick a mirror outside the country
[01:46] <hwilde> rhanthony, sudo aptitude search irc
[01:46] <hwilde> duaneb, use the git mirror its blazing
[01:46] <_alf_> is there a way to take an xubuntu install and turn it into a regular install of ubuntu (GNOME)? I tried removing xubuntu-desktop but all it did was drop a little 33K package.
[01:46] <Starnestommy> rhanthony: inspircd, hybrid, unreal, or ratbox
[01:46] <DanaG> Not necessary to go outside the country.
[01:47] <rhanthony> anyone have experience with some of those? personal opinions?
[01:47] <the_darkside_986> how do i throttle trackerd (is that its name?)
[01:47] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 have you opened system monitor to see which running service seems to be using up you cpu resources
[01:47] <bazhang> _alf_: install ubuntu-desktop
[01:47] <_alf_> bazhang: thanks
[01:47] <iznuics> _alf_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.. then change sessions on the login screen
[01:47] <nickrud> _alf_ install ubuntu-desktop , it'll install alongside. Use options->sessions on the login screen to choose which to run
[01:47] <rhanthony> never run an ircd, wanna try so i can put chat rooms up for some of my sites
[01:47] <bazhang> xchat rhanthony
[01:47] <hwilde> rhanthony, why not use freenode it's free
[01:47] <the_darkside_986> well, the only CPU % that isn't 0 is gnome-system-monitor and firefox. but it lags without firefox or sysmonitor running
[01:47] <rhanthony> hwilde: cause, i also want to just learn how to run an ircd.
[01:48] <MentalNotes>  the_darkside_986: go to system -> preferences -> Search and Indexing
[01:48] <sammy> _alf_: also there's an apt-get command that cleans out unused packages. it's possible you have an unbelievable amount of dependencies that aren't needed. try apt-get autoclean
[01:48] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 it should be an icon in your notification area ... right click and look through preferences ... you can also access it through System/Preferences/SearchandIndexing
[01:48] <shadeofgrey> has anyboidy gotten full 8.04 to boot on intel macs in livCD mode?
[01:48] <pure`eigenVector> when distro-upgrading (from gutsy) with the alternate cd, is it safe to upgrade by mounting the iso, or do I have to burn it?
[01:48] <iznuics> the_darkside_986: trackerd might just be indexing.. when it's done all will be well.
[01:48] <hwilde> rhanthony, sudo aptitude search irc
[01:48] <the_darkside_986> ok
[01:48] <rhanthony> i've always go out and figured out how to DO the things I like using on the net... its how I started off, and why I am now a network engineer :P curiosity and not taking "no, normal people can't do that" as an answer
[01:48] <the_darkside_986> what do i do in the tracker preferences dialog?
[01:48] <_alf_> sammy: thanks... i'll try that too.
[01:48] <sammy> _alf_: I mean autoremove. autoclean deletes package files
[01:48] <KyleK> pure`eigenVector: why does upgrading involve a cd?
[01:48] <Starnestommy> rhanthony: I think ircd-hybrid is in the repos, but I prefer inspircd althopugh it has to be compiled from source
[01:49] <Starnestommy> *although
[01:49] <pure`eigenVector> KyleK... update servers are slow are really slow atm
[01:49] <moveax> KyleK: OK, so that resolved the controls - but the window borders aren't as they should be
[01:49] <KyleK> ah
[01:49] <rhanthony> Normal people shouldn't run a home network on a CISCO cat 6509 ... but it's one hell of a way to learn about networking :P
[01:49] <MentalNotes>  the_darkside_986: click on performance tab and move adjust the throttling option
[01:49] <sammy> rhanthony: yes, normal people should, and the other people should be relegated to the 'AOL' internet where you can't break anything.
[01:49] <DanaG> USE OTHER MIRRORS!
[01:49] <_alf_> how do i specify the "git mirror" that hwlide spoke of, since the us ubuntu archive is getting railed?
[01:49] <KyleK> pure`eigenVector: oh, right, I upgraded last night when people were asking when it was going to go live
[01:49] <duaneb> Guys: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[01:49] <dabbill> I have my driver set to nvidia in xorg.conf but when i try to run nvidia-settings it says i am not useing the nvidia driver
[01:49] <rhanthony> I just never got 100% into linux... was an NT guy for years and years... now going to roll up my sleeves and play with linux more than just as a bind/mail/apache server.
[01:49] <xif> can I install FF3 along-side FF2?
[01:49] <moveax> KyleK: ah, resolved that too, n/m :)
[01:50] <DanaG> Look between these two:
[01:50] <the_darkside_986> ok thanks. What about extremely slow startup time? Is there a way to fix that?
[01:50] <DanaG> warning: PDF:   www.internet2.edu/resources/Internet2MembersList.PDF  -- list
[01:50] <DanaG> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[01:50] <FloodBot2> DanaG: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:50] <KyleK> weeee pdf
[01:50] <duaneb> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[01:50] <pure`eigenVector> KyleK... I had started to do that... but must have taken the wrong link or something 'cause I started compiling a kernel with git... and created the .deb... and it wouldn't install
[01:50] <duaneb> whoops
[01:50] <duaneb> sorry, #ubuntu :P
[01:50] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 ... just change the settings to use less memory and choose slow indexing over faster indexing ...  you can turn off tracker in Sessions
[01:50] <Lucroth_> I have a question
[01:50] <rhanthony> sammy: well, if you have a 6509 or 7501 cisco sitting in your living room for your home network... you're not "normal" anymore.
[01:50] <shadeofgrey> we need a ubuntu channel for mac people
[01:50] <Lucroth_> What changes in this new update
[01:50] <compengi> i'm facing a problem with my vga after installing hardy. it's Nvidia FX5500. i installed the restricted drivers and after reboot the resolution went to 640x480.
[01:50] <DanaG> 6509 and 7501?  Managed switches?  Servers?  What?.
[01:50] <Lucroth_> Why should I bother?
[01:51] <the_darkside_986> oh ok. so tracker affects boot time? if that's the case then I guess I've fixed things.
[01:51] <trobos> Anyone have any idea why a wifi card would work with Ubuntu, but occasionally disconnect?
[01:51] <tanlaan> Hello everyone, I'm having trouble updating my new install of Ubuntu 7.10
[01:51] <rhanthony> DanaG: swtiches.  search the model numbers on www.cisco.com .... lil heftier than what you get at bestbuy.
[01:51] <bazhang> this is ubuntu support channel lucroth do you have a support question
[01:51] <MP2E> Ok seriously I'm stumped... This thing won't install ubuntu. Or most linuxes for that matter
[01:51] <phiqtion> how can i enable the 3d cube in HARDY? thx
[01:51] <DanaG> All I use is a dd-wrt router.
[01:51] <binarybandit> trobos, are you sure it's a client side issue?
[01:51] <pen> anyone here know how to use avatar-factory??
[01:51] <hwilde> !cube | phiqtion
[01:51] <ubotu> phiqtion: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[01:51] <bazhang> pen what is it
[01:51] <rhanthony> DanaG: got a good deal on a few left overs back in the .bomb days, great learning tools for CCIE
[01:51] <binarybandit> phiqtion, you're lookinf for compiz fusion
[01:51] <newscane> i'm running into a problem installing via floppies...
[01:51] <anathematic> does the apt-get repo's have the latest version of ruby?
[01:51] <DanaG> compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:51] <Lucroth_> My question is somewhat linked to support, as if I bother updating I'm going to probably need it, lol
[01:51] <MP2E> It's an SiS 730 with an AMD Athlon 32-bit and an Mitsumi Disc Drive
[01:52] <DanaG> phiqtion:  compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:52] <nickrud> anathematic apt-cache policy will tell you the version available
[01:52] <dabbill> any one get a 8800 GT working in hardy that can help me out?
[01:52] <hwilde> !find ruby | anathematic
[01:52] <ubotu> anathematic: Found: libruby1.8, libruby1.8-dbg, libsvn-ruby, libsvn-ruby1.8, ruby (and 377 others)
[01:52] <sammy> for anyone else looking for mirrors, synaptic does a great job of pinging all the mirrors and chosing the best one for you. I'll suggest it 'cause it worked well for me :) just select 'repositories' and find your way to select a new mirror, there'll be a button.
[01:52] <pen> bazhang: it's a very cool script, but I don't know how to use it. Link:: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=486359
[01:52] <DanaG> SiS?  Ouch.
[01:52] <pure`eigenVector> is there an amd64 specific ubuntu channel?
[01:52] <binarybandit> hwilde, nifty
[01:52] <anathematic> hwilde: not quite the newest, thanks!
[01:52] <MP2E> Yeah SiS really does suck
[01:52] <smick> with the new release, are the dual screen configurations any easier than like a month ago?
[01:52] <pen> bazhang: they now provide the GUI, but it's also confusing to use
[01:52] <bazhang> Lucroth_: go to www.fsckin.com for more info thanks
[01:52] <nickrud> pure`eigenVector you're in it
[01:52] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 I don't think tracker affects boot time ... you can even set it to delay initiation by however long you wish from within its preferences ... my experience is that the compisite window manager takes some time to completely initiate after log on
[01:52] <Lucroth_> Im just curious as to if this newest ubuntu update is worth the hassle of gettting?
[01:52] <hwilde> !64 | pure`eigenVector
[01:52] <ubotu> pure`eigenVector: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[01:52] <pen> bazhang: maybe you are more talented to tell me the usage?
[01:52] <trobos> binarybandit: Im fairly new to the world of computers, but I know that on my windows boot I have a permanent connection... my instincts tell me that if it was a driver issue I wouldnt be able to connect at all
[01:52] <pure`eigenVector> nickrud: o_O oh okay... thanks
[01:52] <phiqtion> binarybandit: how can i get this?
[01:52] <MP2E> I thought Ubutnu supported SiS >_>
[01:52] <bazhang> pen never used it sorry
[01:52] <sammy> smick: as long as we're still using X, I doubt the dual screen configuration will be any easier in this decade :)
[01:52] <boolka> how do i turn on svideo output on my laptop? ( the function key + f4  dont work - did in windows) ?
[01:53] <pen> bazhang: I know. Take a look
[01:53] <binarybandit> phiqtion, type /j #compiz-fusion and ask them there :)
[01:53] <jedimasterk>  I am having trouble using the live cd iso. When I boot I get (initramfs) blinking cursor. Tried to burns from two different mirrors. No luck. Should I try an upgrade from alternate cd instead.
[01:53] <pure`eigenVector> thanks, I just assumed there would be a separate channel
[01:53] <phiqtion> binarybandit: thx
[01:53] <binarybandit> jedimasterk, did you verify your burn?
[01:53] <newscane> i partitioned w/ debian sarge, grabbed ubuntu's debootstrap, and then i get errors when i run it
[01:53] <smick> sammy: thanks.  too bad. well Iwas gonna upgrade anywya, but I won't boot into ubuntu tonight and do it then.
[01:53] <jedimasterk> Yes
[01:53] <bazhang> jedimasterk: what about a net upgrade
[01:53] <MP2E> Does ubuntu support SiS?
[01:53] <iznuics> jedimasterk: you have to burn s.l.o.w.
[01:53] <newscane> it can't do chroot /target
[01:53] <binarybandit> jedimasterk, net upgrade?
[01:53] <DanaG> glxinfo → *segfault*
[01:53] <jedimasterk> didn't try that was slow
[01:53] <lirit> after i inserted the install CD, it wont ask me to upgrade, it only open the CD to show me the content. How can I get it to intall?
[01:53] <DanaG> Yay, I have a working fn-f4.  I'm lucky!
[01:53] <binarybandit> jedimasterk, well, if it verified, it should be ok
[01:53] <plik> jedimasterk: did you use the force?
[01:54] <MP2E> Does ubuntu support SiS? >_>
[01:54] <bazhang> lirit: in windows? what cd is this
[01:54] <compengi> Hello LjL-Temp
[01:54] <mojo> greets!  i just did a fresh install of 8.04RC the other day and can't find a good howto on dual monitors for hardy.  all the ones i find are very old.  the screen res tool is not detecting the 2nd monitor, using fglrx with compiz; 2nd monitor is working as a sort of clone but not at same res so it scrolls the viewport.  Help/ideas?
[01:54] <Millertime_018> my updates keep failing in the new ubuntu
[01:54] <Millertime_018> what do i do?
[01:54] <binarybandit> I usually burn at like 2x when I'm burning OSs ?.?
[01:54] <sammy> smick: X configuration with even one monitor and a good 'ol FOSS driver supported video card is a chore enough. it *is* better than it was last decade, though :D
[01:54] <jedimasterk> I rebooted and got (initramfs)_ prompt both times
[01:54] <lirit> bazhang: in linux 7.10. the cd is 8.04
[01:54] <dabbill> any one get a 8800 GT working in hardy that can help me out?
[01:54] <DanaG> How would you go about saying this to the nvidia driver:
[01:54] <oddalot> does anyone here have the emerald repository tab missing in emerald settings???
[01:54] <rhanthony> thanks guys... i've got what i needed for now... thanks agian for the help.
[01:54] <jedimasterk> I rebooted and got (initramfs)_ prompt both times  With Live CD
[01:54] <smick> sammy: but not better than 4 weeks ago, which is my last upgrade and last time I booted into ubuntu.
[01:55] <KyleK> oh good
[01:55] <bazhang> lirit the live cd or the alternate--what is the exact issue please be precise
[01:55] <DanaG> Assume ANY VGA monitor is capable of at least 1024x768 at 60Hz
[01:55] <KyleK> no updates since 22nd
[01:55] <DanaG> .... since some projectors are missing Pin 9 (the DDC Pin).
[01:55] <smick> I'm running a new 8800 GT video card on a new system.  so far, nvidia settings aren't working too well.
[01:55] <jedimasterk> Never had this problem with 7.10 Live cd
[01:55] <oddalot> no one here is using emerald on 8.04?
[01:55] <jcwilliams> smick: I am having issues with an 8800 GT as well.  I can't even get the live cd to boot
[01:56] <ahave> hello, i am tring to run 'apt-get install build-essential' and the build hangs at '99% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]' and just sits there.. what is going on?
[01:56] <sammy> smick: thank you, nvidia and ati, for thinking that a closed source world is the best answer to innovation and progress. easily half of the questions I see for linux are 'my video is f'd up!' just 'cause there's so much pressure for one to be better than the other.
[01:56] <lirit> bazhang: the live cd. it asked me to install from the CD the very first time I inserted it. But after that, it only shows me the contents.
[01:56] <hwilde> ahave, you know everybody is upgrading to 8.04 right?
[01:56] <bazhang> ahave servers are understandably overworked
[01:56] <DanaG> I'll be switching TO ATI in summer, frankly.
[01:56] <LainIwakura> I could configur my wireless (Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI) connection in Gutsy by installing the broadcom firmwire, then enabling it in "Restricted Driver Manager". Now in Hardy, after I install the firmwire, I cannot locate the firmwire in "Driver Manager" (there is no "Restricted Driver Manager" anymore) in order to enable it. Any ideas? Thanks.
[01:56] <DanaG> I'm sick of nvidia.
[01:56] <hwilde> !broadcom | LainIwakura
[01:56] <ubotu> LainIwakura: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[01:56] <DanaG> Even if ATI is still crappy... at least it's open-source crap.
[01:56] <nickrud> ahave use a mirror, the main archive is being hammered most likely
[01:56] <ahave> hwilde, oh.. did not know that.. should i just let it sit?
[01:56] <bazhang> lirit you need to disable the cd as a software source in synpatic
[01:56] <compengi> i'm facing a problem with my vga after installing hardy. it's Nvidia FX5500. i installed the restricted drivers and after reboot the resolution went to 640x480. could anyone help me out?
[01:56] <sammy> ahave: have you tried running synaptic package manager and having it look for the closest mirror to you? that helped for me.
[01:56] <DanaG> nvidia is closed-source crap.
[01:57] <hwilde> ahave, you should go outside and get some exercise and come back tomorrow
[01:57] <ledbettj> LainIwakura:  the "Restricted Manager" got renamed to "Driver Manager" at least on my machine
[01:57] <ahave> sammy, no i have not.
[01:57] <sileni> why does apt-get update stop at 56 % getting headers
[01:57] <smallfoot-> yes but nvidia drivers work better than all other
[01:57] <sjovan> hey guys... i think i made a pritty useful script for splitting movies. how do you get it on the official wiki?
[01:57] <hwilde> sileni, , you know everybody is upgrading to 8.04 right?
[01:57] <ahave> hwilde, i am backpacking tomorrow :p
[01:57] <smallfoot-> sileni, heavy load due to 8.04 release
[01:57] <ledbettj> LainIwakura: er, I mean "Hardware Drivers"
[01:57] <sileni> i seeee
[01:57] <hwilde> ahave, sorry the truth hurts
[01:57] <sileni> so its not my network
[01:57] <Exodus> omg how do i get the cube! j/k
[01:57] <sileni> thanks guys appreciate it :)
[01:57] <LainIwakura> ledbettj: Yes I know.
[01:57] <hwilde> !cube  |  Exodus
[01:57] <ubotu> Exodus: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[01:57] <jedimasterk> And you can check card parameters with nvidia drivers as well
[01:57] <SeaPhor> I have had more compatibility issues wit ati than nvidia, but that just me
[01:57] <sammy> ahave: give it a whril. as long as it doesn't pick something on the otherside of the world (and even then), you'll probably see an improvement. it picked a mirror in canada for me (not far from seattle) and I got max download speeds through the entire upgrade.
[01:57] <Exodus> hwilde: J/K
[01:57] <Exodus> hehe
[01:57] <dabbill> any one get a 8800 GT working in hardy that can help me out?
[01:57] <newscane> can anyone help me? ;)
[01:58] <nickrud> lovely, errors in help files
[01:58] <Exodus> dabbill: i have a 8600gts
[01:58] <dabbill> Exodus, are you useing hardy?
[01:58] <Exodus> dabbill: nvidia-glx-new drivers should work with 8800 too.
[01:58] <Exodus> dabbill: yes.
[01:58] <dabbill> Exodus, i have nvidia-glx-new installed
[01:58] <nick111> ha?
[01:58] <jedimasterk> Seems like allot of problems with an LTS version
[01:58] <philip_> why is FF3b5 included in LTS? it crashes left and right (greys out)
[01:58] <shadeofgrey>   /j #macosx
[01:58] <sammy> compengi: try doing a 'dpkg-reconfigure' on the xorg server package. let X redetect your devices with possibly new drivers and re-write the xorg.conf file
[01:58] <dabbill> Exodus, but no matter what i do i cant get any settings to stick, it keeps going back to low graphics mode
[01:58] <jcwilliams> Exodus: Would the 8800 GT stop a 7.10 install?
[01:59] <nickrud> philip_ you can install the 2.x version as well
[01:59] <pen> bazhang: so? interested?
[01:59] <Exodus> philip_: mostly when using flash.
[01:59] <SeaPhor> dabbill, _Zeuz_ was trying as he has it working now
[01:59] <bazhang> jedimasterk: many have reported success; likely a cd/media issue on your end
[01:59] <Daedius_> hey everyone ;) bad start to 8.04 for me
[01:59] <dabbill> jcwilliams, my 8800GT worked perfict in 7.10
[01:59] <Exodus> jconnolly: it should run perfectly, it's the same driver if you have your repositories updates.
[01:59] <vi1985> Hey guys, perhaps anyone can give me some help setting up ubuntu? I encountered problems on the repartition stage, and currently running it from the cd
[01:59] <philip__> lol
[01:59] <Daedius_> after instal, my mouse works intermittantly
[01:59] <_ZeuZ_> Guys, is there any package in Ubuntu Server for Per-Host-In-The-Network bandwidth allowance control? Without having to use TCNG directly nor recurring to htb-gen nor htb.init ? I don-t want to use CBQ either...
[01:59] <sileni> this 8.04 is amazing, everything seems to work
[01:59] <Exodus> dabbill: well, remember you have to save them with administrative priveledges.
[01:59] <sileni> before nothing liked me
[01:59] <dabbill> SeaPhor, i have been tryin to for couple hours now with no luck
[01:59] <dabbill> Exodus, have been
[01:59] <telexicon> vileda, what happened?
[01:59] <jcwilliams> I just got a new PC and and it sounded like a few people got it installed.  The only thing I have different is that video card
[02:00] <Exodus> dabbill: that means making them stick in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:00] <sammy> compengi: otherwise there's a halfway decent wiki page about resolution issues, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:00] <_ZeuZ_> Guys, is there any package in Ubuntu Server for Per-Host-In-The-Network bandwidth allowance control? Without having to use TCNG directly nor recurring to htb-gen nor htb.init ? I don-t want to use CBQ either...
[02:00] <Exodus> dabbill: I see, and your xorg.conf is using Driver "nvidia"?
[02:00] <IcemanV9>
[02:00] <milly1234> hi, just upgraded to 8.04, and now my xorg.conf is almost empty, how in the world do I set up my hardware? like my monitor and nvidia card?
[02:00] <jcwilliams> When I try to run my install the Screen turns black and my computer starts beeping
[02:00] <JPSmon> So i am installing Creative Soundblaster X-Fi drivers and the compiler wants me to use the same compiler that built the kernel.  But i'm not Linus Torvalds
[02:00] <dabbill> Exodus, when i open xorg.conf it says driver "nvidia"
[02:00] <LainIwakura> OK, so that wiki page says that the broadcom driver is already installed in Hardy. But I cannot use pppoeconf in Hardy. How do I get that to work? Thanks.
[02:00] <IcemanV9> asdfghjkoiuytrewqewrtyuiop[poiuytre
[02:00] <hwilde> !nvidia | milly1234
[02:00] <ubotu> milly1234: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:00] <IcemanV9> '
[02:00] <telexicon> !spam | _ZeuZ_
[02:00] <ubotu> _ZeuZ_: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...
[02:00] <nickrud> IcemanV9 that best have been a mistake
[02:00] <hwilde> IcemanV9, don't spam
[02:00] <x1250> someone on intrepid ibex?
[02:00] <Exodus> dabbill: pastebin your xorg.conf
[02:00] <sammy> Daedius_: a usb mouse? that's odd.
[02:01] <philip__> yeah IcemanV9 ya big willy
[02:01] <bazhang> x1250 funny but no
[02:01] <hwilde> !intrepid | x1250
[02:01] <ubotu> x1250: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex
[02:01] <nickrud> x1250 very funny, a topic for +1
[02:01] <telexicon> x1250, i dont think it has started yet
[02:01] <SeaPhor> _ZeuZ_, I wish i could help you with your question, but i am a n00b, dabbill is back and asking though
[02:01] <Daedius_> sammy, yah, usb mouse, every usb mouse I plug into my machine
[02:01] <milly1234> I installed the binary driver through the hardware driver manager thing already
[02:01] <the_darkside_986> If the "Enable indexing" box is not checked then wouldn't trackerd be disabled? also, it seems like other process such as firefox want to hog the CPU and cause lag sometimes. Maybe it's a kernel issue or something.
[02:01] <Daedius_> it works for like 3 seconds
[02:01] <Daedius_> ten stops
[02:01] <_ZeuZ_> telexicon: LAG, and if you want I can paste the output of IRSSI
[02:01] <Daedius_> then*
[02:01] <x1250> telexicon: I hear it did
[02:01] <hwilde> Daedius_, disconnect and reconnect then pastebin your dmesg output
[02:01] <sammy> Daedius_: anything interesting at the end of dmesg? using any hubs or pluging the mouse into anything other than the port on the computer itself?
[02:01] <milly1234> infact it says its enabled in that, even rebooted, and its not using it
[02:01] <Daedius_> I'll check =)
[02:01] <IcemanV9>  nickrud: i couldn't see .... all i got was black screen .... finally i am back. sorry. you're welcome to ban me to make everyone else happy.
[02:02] <sammy> oh, see, hwilde just goes straight to wanting to look him/herself :P
[02:02] <_ZeuZ_> lsmod | grep nvidia
[02:02] <JoshBP> I need help upgrading.
[02:02] <milly1234> my screen went black when I tried using it
[02:02] <nickrud> IcemanV9 nah, it was out of character for you. That's why I assumed a mistake
[02:02] <JoshBP> I get stuck on setting new software channels
[02:02] <bazhang> JoshBP: please elaborate
[02:02] <dabbill> Exodus, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64297/
[02:02] <hwilde> lol @ sammy
[02:02] <telexicon> JoshBP, arent the mirrors overloaded?
[02:02] <Miss> hi
[02:03] <milly1234> does ubuntu ave any sort of central hardware setup type tool?
[02:03] <milly1234> have*
[02:03] <graft> yo why does network manager take up 74M of memory?
[02:03] <IcemanV9> nickrud: it's weird ... it happens a few time ... thks for knowing me well that i wouldn't do anything stupid.
[02:03] <vi1985> Seems there is a stream of questions here... Let me rephrase: Is it possible to repartition the disc without reformatting (lots of valuable info) when installing Hardy? My Lenovo T60 won't let me do it...   Anyone, help :)
[02:03] <jac0b> are the servers down or under a bunch of load?
[02:03] <rich_freecomm> I hate catch22s
[02:03] <telexicon> vileda, yes
[02:03] <graft> network manager takes up more memory than Xorg
[02:03] <graft> wtf
[02:03] <graft> !repartition
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repartition - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 cpu or memory? do you have enough ram? enough video ram? are you running a bunch of programs at once?
[02:03] <graft> !partition
[02:03] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:04] <telexicon> graft, virtual memory or physical memory?
[02:04] <bazhang> vi1985: change partitions? you wish to resize, format or what please specify
[02:04] <graft> telexicon: physical is only 37m, but still more than xorg
[02:04] <mojo> greets!  i just did a fresh install of 8.04RC the other day and can't find a good howto on dual monitors for hardy.  all the ones i find are very old.  the screen res tool is not detecting the 2nd monitor, using fglrx with compiz; 2nd monitor is working as a sort of clone but not at same res so it scrolls the viewport.  Help/ideas?
[02:04] <k[5\5]> help upgrade 710 to 804 ..
[02:04] <jcwilliams> I need help getting the Live CD to boot.  My Monitor hits sleep mode and my computer just beeps
[02:04] <graft> telexicon: and way too much for a stupid network manager to take up
[02:04] <telexicon> graft, xorg is highly optimized
[02:04] <k[5\5]> update manager no response
[02:04] <graft> telexicon: and network manager is not?
[02:04] <philip__> lol!
[02:04] <telexicon> no network manager is not
[02:04] <NAiL> Any Xen gurus here? Having some issues with Xen after upgrading to Hardy :(
[02:04] <Miss_Adriana_Ber> let me see
[02:05] <graft> telexicon: well, balls
[02:05] <CJS3141> In Synaptic what exactly is the difference between "Mark for removal" and "Mark for complete removal"?
[02:05] <GerbilSoft> i seem to have encountered a strange bug in ubuntu 8.04's NFS booting
[02:05] <bazhang> graft: it is the size it is; I prefer to uninstall it and use command line--you are free to do so as well
[02:05] <oriez> after upgrading i don't have sound at all
[02:05] <GerbilSoft> specifically, after it boots from the network, it freezes after loading squashfs
[02:05] <philip__> lol, wtf?!
[02:05] <the_darkside_986> why does my whole system keep lagging randomly when I'm running only firefox and chatzilla. (well the system claims a package manager is running ...)?
[02:05] <GerbilSoft> it won't unfreeze unless you wait a few minutes, press Ctrl-N, and hit enter
[02:05] <jon_high9000> hello, anybody know of anything strange going on this afternoon such as  failure to access repositories?
[02:05] <bazhang> CJS3141: unisintall and purge
[02:05] <Daedius_> this is taking a bit to get it into pastebin FYI
[02:05] <ben-g> how do i enable my atheros wifi card?
[02:05] <graft> bazhang: comamdnline you mean like if-up etc?
[02:05] <Daedius_> ;))
[02:05] <seamus7> CJS3141 mark for complete removal deletes the configuration files (I think that's the only difference)
[02:05] <telexicon> the_darkside_986, i think there is a bug in firefox that the devs are ignoring
[02:05] <Johnson> whee install cd keeps saying I have logic errors lol, i can't even check disk integrity
[02:06] <bazhang> graft: command line (cli)
[02:06] <InYourBase> jon_high9000: The traffic is really high because so many people are updating
[02:06] <graft> jon_high9000: hardy was just released, load is high, try a mirror
[02:06] <telexicon> firefox freaks out and eats up 70% cpu and thrashes the hard drive often
[02:06] <oddalot> lol
[02:06] <newscane> i'm having some problems with an install of gutsy over floppies (boot from sarge floppies, then grabbing ubuntu's debootstrap)...
[02:06] <sammy> milly1234: mojo: you're probably on your own, more or less. dual monitor setups are almost always completely different as someone else's, they're really hard to debug and troubleshoot.
[02:06] <twinkie_addict> thats why i run opera :)
[02:06] <graft> bazhang: yes, do you mean using ifup eth0, and /etc/network/interfaces? that's too 1990s for me
[02:06] <telexicon> graft, where are you looking at the memory usage?
[02:06] <graft> telexicon: top
[02:06] <ubuntu__> how do i become an ubuntu guru?
[02:06] <vi1985> bazhang: I don't have too much experience setting up os's... When installing Hardy, it prompted me to repartition the hard drive so that space will be allocated to both windows and ubuntu... now when i tried to do it, it threw some unspecified error.
[02:06] <sammy> mojo: that being said, it sounds like you could make a change to your xorg.conf to fix that, have you edited it manually at all?
[02:06] <telexicon> graft, if i look under system manager it shows 2.3MB for network manager
[02:06] <Daedius_> Alright you guys
[02:06] <CJS3141> seamus7, bazhang: Thanks!
[02:06] <Johnson> ubuntu__, lmfao
[02:06] <milly1234> this isn't dual monitor
[02:06] <telexicon> graft, er system monitor
[02:06] <jon_high9000> graft: i tried to load the 7.10 version of Kubuntu
[02:06] <mojo> sammy::  no it is stock, and very sparse
[02:06] <DBautell> ubuntu__, practice
[02:07] <bazhang> graft if you have a support question please ask, otherwise please go to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[02:07] <ubuntu__> im an idiot
[02:07] <sammy> milly1234: sorry, don't know why your nick got stuck in there.
[02:07] <k[5\5]> help update manager  no response when update from 710 to 804??
[02:07] <ubuntu__> can it be done?
[02:07] <dabbill> Exodus, any idea man?
[02:07] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: helpp :)
[02:07] <Daedius_> here is my pastebin for usb mouse problems where the mouse only works for 3 seconds or so: http://pastebin.com/m18f296
[02:07] <milly1234> probably saw me having problems of a similer nature but only on one display
[02:07] <bazhang> vi1985: could you please specify the error? it would be very helpful
[02:07] <niadh> I've upgraded to hardy today and now my iPod does not work with banshee, what packages do i need to install to fix this?
[02:07] <sammy> k[5\5]: the mirrors are very heavily loaded. try running synaptic package manager and choosing a new mirror to download from in the repositories configuration.
[02:07] <jon_high9000> graft:had a large hang time. never did install.
[02:07] <nickrud> vi1985 try defragging your windows drive first. If you have vista, use the vista disk management tool to shrink your ntfs partition
[02:07] <JoshBP> My updater gets stuck on setting new software channels. It always quits with a network error, but it my network is fine
[02:07] <tomtommy> how do i upgrade to hardy?
[02:07] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: so i have ubuntu installed on laptop and i have a 22" flat LCD hooked up to it.. when i boot ubuntu with it pluged in.. it shows bunch of nonsesne million different colors.. any ida?
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu__, you can do it, the quickest way to start is to hang out here and read through the forums
[02:07] <vanzemaljac> idea*?
[02:08] <oddalot> i feel naked and alone
[02:08] <telexicon> JoshBP, the mirrors are overloaded wait a while
[02:08] <k[5\5]> i've change the mirror to a fast edu net
[02:08] <vanzemaljac> anyone know
[02:08] <Exodus> dabbill: try this xorg.conf on hardy heron: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64299/
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> (i've been using ubuntu for a year and a half and i'm nowhere NEAR guru status)
[02:08] <JoshBP> how long.....
[02:08] <graft> jon_high9000: try a different mirror?
[02:08] <vi1985> bazhang, the only thing it lets me do is to either use the entire disc for linux, or create new partitions. Both options require format, which I'm very reluctant to do...
[02:08] <nickrud> tomtommy if you're in 7.10, it will ask you if you want to upgrade
[02:08] <Exodus> dabbill: remember to back up your xorg.conf
[02:08] <sammy> JoshBP: have you tried selecting a new mirror or are you using the default?
[02:08] <telexicon> JoshBP, or you can use an alternate mirror
[02:08] <dabbill> Exodus, aye :)
[02:08] <vanzemaljac> so i have ubuntu installed on laptop and i have a 22" flat LCD hooked up to it.. when i boot ubuntu with it pluged in.. it shows bunch of nonsesne million different colors.. any ida?
[02:08] <k[5\5]> and tried many times
[02:08] <ubuntu__> im downloading hardy now, going to format this 500 gigger and go crazy
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> JoshBP, til they aren't overloaded, that's how long :D
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> hard to say really
[02:08] <sammy> mojo: pastebin it somewhere, your xorg.conf - i'll take a look, no promises :P
[02:08] <bazhang> vi1985: you may consider wubi or unetbootin if you are wary of using partitioning tools then
[02:09] <bouma> w00t :P
[02:09] <niadh> !ipod
[02:09] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[02:09] <ed1t> is ubuntu repository slow today?
[02:09] <graft> ed1t: yes, hardy was just released
[02:09] <vanzemaljac> does anyone know how to get external LCD working on ubuntu.. installed on a laptop
[02:09] <sammy> k[5\5]: try letting it auto-find the best mirror. i was skeptical, but it worked wonderfully
[02:09] <bazhang> ed1t: is that a real question?
[02:09] <_alf_> ubuntu__: i've used linux for 10 years. I use it every day at my job and at home and i'm not a guru
[02:09] <ed1t> figured
[02:09] <nickrud> ed1t try looking for a mirror near you
[02:09] <dabbill> Exodus, did you edit my config?
[02:09] <sammy> k[5\5]: also, assume that the fastest mirrors are the ones that are overloaded.
[02:09] <ubuntu__> well then im screwed!
[02:09] <eternal_p> there needs to be a drinking game, a shot when asked about the repos
[02:09] <tanath> for those who need a mirror: go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[02:09] <k[5\5]> i can open it in webbroswer in no time
[02:09] <NAiL> Anyone know why I'm suddenly getting slow networking with xen on hardy?
[02:09] <vanzemaljac> anyhonee
[02:09] <bouma> could anyone tell me if i can change the behaviour of the gnome window selector (2.22.0) so that the wheel cycles through all windows not just the windows on the current desktop ???
[02:09] <DBautell> eternal_p, we'd all be dead
[02:10] <eternal_p> lol
[02:10] <tanath> servers are overloaded
[02:10] <_alf_> ubuntu__: i'm here for help now.... no one knows everything
[02:10] <flowbot> anyone using pidgin here? i can't resize my text input box ... anyone else got this problem?
[02:10] <graft> we need to make an ubotu shortcut about mirrors today
[02:10] <k[5\5]> but the updater just no response
[02:10] <sammy> everyone listen to tanath.
[02:10] <ed1t> i meant us.archive.ubuntu.com thats prolly coz of new release
[02:10] <tanath> sammy, bah, no one listens to me :P
[02:10] <eternal_p> flowbot: no, sorry
[02:10] <ubuntu__> i see the community is really cool though
[02:10] <Exodus> dabbill: yes, i posted that correction
[02:10] <DBautell> flowbot, #pidgin, that one's right in their topic
[02:10] <Daedius_> just for information on my non working usb mouse system, its a mac pro if that helps anyone
[02:10] <Exodus> dabbill: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64299/ this should automate certain things, and auto-detect.
[02:11] <flowbot> DBautell: is #pidgin on this server?
[02:11] <IntangibleLiquid> cool, i'm on Hardy now. What's next?
[02:11] <ubuntu__> i need to learn how to install postgresql and create a database
[02:11] <k[5\5]> can i use terminal to update,  and obtain some info about the updating process
[02:11] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: issues or just want to chat
[02:11] <EruditeHermit> join #matlab
[02:11] <KyleK> k[5\5]: theres no fancy gui for text, but you can watch stuff scroll by :)
[02:11] <c0mp13371331337_> k[5\5]-  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:11] <DBautell> flowbot, I'm new to IRC, but it is on freenode, and I don't do anything special to get there from where I am
[02:11] <tanath> ubuntu__, you can install things in synaptic
[02:11] <loufoque> why are the servers so slow lately? Is it because of the hardy release?
[02:11] <jac0b> are the ubuntu servers slow for anyone else?
[02:12] <whonicca> why cant i play any videos on hardy heron, totom, and mplayer
[02:12] <whonicca> =\
[02:12] <iznuics> loufoque: yep
[02:12] <tanath> ubuntu__, and you can find guides on google
[02:12] <ubuntu__> yeah i use terminal and sometimes synaptic
[02:12] <tehquickness> Is there a way to see which programs are reading/writing to the harddrive??
[02:12] <mojo> sammy::  http://pastebin.com/m503d8f0e  is my xorg.conf (stock hardy with fglrx)
[02:12] <KyleK> jac0b: lol
[02:12] <bazhang> loufoque: could be
[02:12] <jon_high9000> graft: Thanks for the heads up. im glad it isnt my computer. i will try your suggestion tomorrow morning. do you think morning would be better to reinstall?
[02:12] <nickrud> loufoque jac0b check the /topic
[02:12] <flowbot> DBautell: yeah, is cool .... i'm there ;)
[02:12] <Miss_Adriana_Ber> synaptic is frozen
[02:12] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: I made a life-threatening bet, re-structuring the entire partition table with Disk Test. Thanks god I'm still alive
[02:12] <tanath> ubuntu__, ok, well you can use aptitude or apt-get
[02:12] <ubuntu__> i got the ubutun 7.10 bible, pretty cool
[02:12] <vi1985> bazhang, that's the problem that the error was unspecified. I'll try running a partitioning tool in my XP, and see what comes of it. Thanks!
[02:12] <sammy> jac0b, loufoque: go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[02:12] <niadh> Can someone help me get my iPod to work with the hardy version of banshee?
[02:12] <Arnos> hi, I have a problem, I have installed Ubuntu 8.04 to a USB, it boots, but when I log in it just shows the brownish screen and nothing happens.  Please help!
[02:12] <graft> jon_high9000: hard to say... i bet this will last at least for the next few days
[02:12] <k[5\5]> i click the update button on the manager panel
[02:12] <ubuntu__> yup apt-get install or apt-cache search right?
[02:12] <ben-g> can someone help me with an atheros card?
[02:12] <loufoque> nickrud: i've had bad experience with local mirrors
[02:12] <tomd123> servers ARE slow because everyone is trying to get their information... It's like stuffing down giant amounts of information down a series of tubes!
[02:12] <blbrown> Well, I upgraded, that was easy
[02:12] <dabbill> Exodus, rebooting to test
[02:12] <bazhang> Arnos: give it a lot of time--->it will be very slow
[02:12] <mojo> sammy::  i am looking into trying aticonfig cmdline tool with --initial=dualhead and winging it from there if you don't have any better advice.
[02:12] <jac0b> sammy: thanks
[02:13] <moDumass> hmm, debconf?
[02:13] <rich_freecomm> I want to start a new channel '#fed_up_with_trying_to_get_my_nickname_to_work'
[02:13] <RodGo> :'(
[02:13] <RodGo> servers are soooo slooow
[02:13] <nickrud> loufoque I've had the opposite (but I use just a couple universities)
[02:13] <yaris12346789> anyone know a open source tool to split videos ?
[02:13] <RodGo> :'( am waiting for hours
[02:13] <moDumass> !debconf
[02:13] <ubotu> debconf is a configuration management system. All packages that support debconf are configured when they are being installed. If you want to change a configuration option later, you can do so using dpkg-reconfigure
[02:13] <IntangibleLiquid> cannot reload my Add and Remove, too slow
[02:13] <Arnos> bazhang: why will it be very slow?
[02:13] <mojo> rich_freecomm::  when you get one, be sure to register it so you can use nickserv to enforce it.  there can be only one ;)
[02:13] <MachinTrucChose> hiya
[02:13] <k[5\5]> sudo apt-get dist upgrade did't work when crossing version
[02:13] <tomd123> RodGo: if your downloading the cd, get it through bittorrent and save everyone some hassle
[02:13] <_ZeuZ_> do I need to restart amarok to apply the themes?
[02:13] <whonicca> how come all videos i try to play are in slow mo, and then eventually freeze up
[02:13] <jon_high9000> graft: i understand. no problem.
[02:13] <RodGo> iv just installed it
[02:13] <RodGo> am downloading some packets trough synaptics
[02:13] <bjbum> anyone have experience with running vent through wine? i've got most things working except I can only hear 1 voice at a time >.<
[02:14] <IntangibleLiquid> also, cannot disable the touchpad with function key, how to do this manually?
[02:14] <rich_freecomm> mojo: I have
[02:14] <sammy> mojo: that's always a good idea, especially after an upgrade. it's taken me 50 little steps to get my video where I want it, I dread the update :(
[02:14] <nickrud> k[5\5]  do-release-upgrade is the preferred command line technique
[02:14] <bazhang> Arnos: from usb key? you may want to visit eeepc channel for more info on such meta-questions
[02:14] <lopin> I can't upgrade off of the cd
[02:14] <_alf_> what does this mean:  gimp-python: Depends: gimp (= 2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu7) but it is not going to be installed
[02:14] <rich_freecomm> mojo: won't let me use the one I registered
[02:14] <RodGo> and its taking hours :'(
[02:14] <lopin> It's locking up
[02:14] <KyleK> hey will ubuntu install onto a raid now?
[02:14] <c0mp13371331337_> k[5\5]-  You'll need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change every instance of 'gutsy' to 'hardy'.
[02:14] <MachinTrucChose> anyone else have this problem? My wifi works, but after I reboot, it doesn't work. I'm thinking it's gotta be a permissions thing, I had the same problem in 7.10. I'm sure the fine people at Canonical didn't ship it with a Network-Manager that doesn't work with wifi cards, so can anyone recommend a fix (other than installing 3rd party apps like Wicd)
[02:14] <Danikar> Hey does Hardy have Firefox 3 Beta installed by default?
[02:14] <niadh> Danikar: Yes
[02:14] <tomd123> RodGo: go to the sources, choose other in sources, and click the button that says, choose best server, you'll be surprised how much faster it will go!!! I downloaded packages at 400KB/s during peek hours :P
[02:15] <lopin> Danikar: Yes...
[02:15] <MachinTrucChose> addendum: it doesn't work until I log in as root and "change" the WPA key to what it already is
[02:15] <JPSmon> can someone help me install a soundcard?
[02:15] <ubuntu__> i thought its supposed to be the full version of fox
[02:15] <sammy> mojo: you might end up needing to set some modelines.
[02:15] <iznuics> MachinTrucChose: you might read the release notes.. they have something in there about wifi and network manager.
[02:15] <mijac> how i can  install firefox 2 on ubuntu to use instead of the 3
[02:15] <mijac> ?
[02:15] <niadh> ubuntu__: It ain't out yet
[02:15] <k[5\5]> chang it manually ?  but there already a button on the update manager
[02:15] <nownot> why once install phpmyadmin its not allowing me to connect via localhost/phpmyadmin
[02:15] <k[5\5]> ok thank you!
[02:15] <MachinTrucChose> iznuics: I had the same problem with 7.10, which I got around by installing Wicd.
[02:15] <tomd123> mijac: sudo apt-get install firefox-2
[02:15] <ubuntu__> oh i thought it was going to be ready in time for 8.04
[02:15] <bazhang> mijac: through synaptic
[02:15] <mijac> thank you master
[02:15] <mijac> ?
[02:15] <lopin> Anyone know why the cdromupgrade is locking up?
[02:15] <ubuntu__> don't you have to do sudo apt-get remove firefox-3 first though?
[02:15] <mijac> do someone has a toshiba sattelite ?
[02:15] <RodGo> tomd123: ty, ill give it a try
[02:16] <_ZeuZ_> mijac: I do
[02:16] <RodGo> :( feel like a dumb here waiting for hours
[02:16] <niadh> ubuntu__: Nope, read somewhere it may be upgraded later once 3 is officially out, but i think they're playing it by ear
[02:16] <dabbill> Exodus, still poped up with the low-graphics mode
[02:16] <bazhang> ubuntu__: not needed
[02:16] <mijac> ok
[02:16] <ubuntu__> i hate my toshiba satellite stolen if that counts
[02:16] <mijac> I bought it today
[02:16] <jason> can i update with the ubuntu live cd?
[02:16] <telexicon> whats up with firefox 3? it lags the system really bad
[02:16] <mijac> but for example
[02:16] <mijac> I can not activate the wifi
[02:16] <sebastien> '/ctcp babyseoul xdcc send #2'
[02:16] <bazhang> jason: no need alternate
[02:16] <kenan> whenever i log into ubuntu my panels and windows all glow a random colour. How do i disable my windows and panels from glowing?
[02:16] <mijac> at least I can not see wifi
[02:16] <mojo> RodGo::  go to System - Administration - Software sources, choose Download From "Other..." and click the "Select Best Server" button.  It will speed test them all.  Be sure to select your country in the list before hitting the button, so it only speed-tests those.
[02:16] <_ZeuZ_> telexicon: not all systems, it runs smooth if you compiled it yourself
[02:16] <tomd123> telexicon: it's a beta, it's not even an rc, so don't expect it to be perfect
[02:16] <ubuntu__> you bought my stolen toshiba satellite?
[02:16] <nownot> ok how do i completely unisntall phpmyadmin besides apt-get remove phpmyadmin
[02:16] <DBautell> lopin, someone said earlier that you need to run it with the full path: /mnt/media/upgradeubuntu , rather than ./upgradeubuntu
[02:16] <jason> i just downloaded the iso
[02:16] <_ZeuZ_> thing is the xmlrunner
[02:16] <sebastien> ctcp babyseoul xdcc send #2
[02:17] <lopin> Okay, thanks
[02:17] <Ertyle> sebastien: stop that
[02:17] <OrTigaS> .
[02:17] <ubuntu__> firefox 3 rocks pertty good over here
[02:17] <Exodus> dabbill: ok, now there's another step
[02:17] <Kr0ntab> nownot: sudo apt-get purge phpmyadmin
[02:17] <MachinTrucChose> I thought Flash was supposed to work out-of-the-box on HH?
[02:17] <jason> i jsut downloaded the iso andi  have gustsy gibbon
[02:17] <niadh> _ZeuZ_: You mean XULRunner?
[02:17] <sammy> nownot: that should completely remove any files that you didn't create yourself. do you mean dependencies?
[02:17] <JoshBP> would the iso be quicker?
[02:17] <_ZeuZ_> niadh, yah, sorry typo
[02:17] <telexicon> tomd123, thats not an excuse, and i understand its beta.. but this is not just a little quirky issue, this is showstopper, making the whole system unusable, lag
[02:17] <nownot> sammy:  yes
[02:17] <IntangibleLiquid> how do I perform the 3-D cube thing?
[02:17] <criminy> !local
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about local - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <newscane> can someone help me w/ a floppy-based install?  booted from debian sarge floppies, now using debootstrap to get gutsy, and having problems.
[02:17] <mijac> even that the restricted drivers detect an atheros
[02:17] <fevel> i was using the betaversio nd it didnt ask me to upgrade
[02:17] <rich_freecomm> ug....at least THIS server knows my name....
[02:17] <cal_> where is the connection log for ubuntu? i dont see anything that would have to do with my broadband dsl connection in /var/log ... ?? I am losing connection every 10 min or so and need to track down the reason.
[02:17] <corbett> h
[02:17] <Exodus> dabbill: install the "nvidia-settings" package
[02:17] <_ZeuZ_> gotta go, take care guys
[02:18] <tomd123> telexicon: use firefox 2 / opera / epiphany if you don't like it, you have options you know
[02:18] <telexicon> id understand if it was alpha 4, but its beta 5
[02:18] <fevel> how can I tell if If im using a  beta or not??
[02:18] <mijac> ok zeus
[02:18] <dabbill> Exodus, i have it installed
[02:18] <KyleK> uh
[02:18] <P_Kable> Hi, if sudo do-release-upgrade closed unexpectedly, what should I do to relaunch it ?
[02:18] <ubuntu__> says beta
[02:18] <telexicon> yea, that was the response i expected
[02:18] <Exodus> dabbill: well, is your monitor adequetly identified?
[02:18] <KyleK> telexicon: beta means beta not "works"
[02:18] <rich_freecomm> ok, well....I'm not impressed with IRC....It won't even let me use the name I registered yesterday
[02:18] <eternal_p> IntangibleLiquid: you need to install compiz advanced settings, then turn on cube and cube rotation
[02:18] <sammy> nownot: once you remove it, you can run apt-get autoremove.  Go into single user mode (sudo telinit 1), change to your home directory (a "su - <yourlogin>" will do), change to .gnome2 and delete the keyrings directory. Reboot and try again. Allow network-manager to access the keyring always when asked. Don't login automatically to your account but login with your password. that'll open the keyring automatically.
[02:19] <ANTDx1> goodl uck...
[02:19] <bazhang> rich_freecomm: why not xchat?
[02:19] <fiz1> hey, i have hardy and i just installed firefox 2, it wont allow me to add any extensions
[02:20] <dabbill> Exodus, when i do sudo nvidia-settings it says " You do not appear to be useing the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file
[02:20] <Exodus> dabbill: you sure you have Driver "nvidia" on the device @ xorg.conf?
[02:20] <Vorbote> !es > aeon17x
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu__: its probabl not your connection, the servers are overwhelmed right now
[02:20] <sammy> rich_freecomm: someone else is probably using it, and freenode doesn't automagically boot people for using someone else's nick until they ask for it back.
[02:20] <nownot> ok need some help phpmyadmin is not cooperating
[02:20] <k[5\5]> i think the only and safe way is to click the "update" button on the update manager
[02:20] <dabbill> Exodus, i am useing the xorg.conf file you pastbin and said to use
[02:20] <ubuntu__> no trust me my connection is crap
[02:20] <ubuntu__> im getting 50-66kb
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> ok, if you say so.
[02:20] <MachinTrucChose> vorbote: I always log in with a password. I'll do the rest of your recommendations. Thanks.
[02:20] <ubuntu__> normally i get 70
[02:20] <ubuntu__> ;-)
[02:20] <twinkie_addict> oh yes the torent is much faster
[02:20] <ubuntu__> but your probably right, a lot of people hitting them hard
[02:21] <rich_freecomm> iznuics: (on that server) rich_freecomm :Nickname is already in use.
[02:21] <Exodus> dabbill: hmm, I think I found the error from your xorg.conf
[02:21] <dracflamloc> quick question, the applications menu... is there any way to make the items in the menu vertically smaller? i like small menus...
[02:21] <Exodus> dabbill: let me see.
[02:21] <goat|work> is there a "replace" option in any of the terminal text editors,  i cant find one in nano, does vi or emacs have one?  I'm trying to replace a string with another string in 30 locations in a file
[02:21] <nownot> looks like its in /usr/share how do i access it from locahost?
[02:21] <k[5\5]> ...now i 'm changing gutsy to hardy
[02:21] <Schalken> !upgrade
[02:21] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:21] <dabbill> Exodus, okay cool.
[02:21] <rich_freecomm> DBautell: I'm using X-chat right now...but I have pidgin loaded
[02:21] <k[5\5]> manually
[02:21] <rich_freecomm> sammy: even after I registered it?
[02:21] <nickrud> rich_freecomm if you have the nick registered, do /nicksrerv ghost nick password
[02:21] <Gman99999> is there a default laptop powersaver utility for chagning the frequency of the processor installed in ubuntu by default like there is in kde?
[02:21] <DBautell> rich_freecomm, yeah, ok, pidgin sucks at IRC. try /ghost NAME pwd
[02:21] <nickrud> rich_freecomm er, nickserv , a typo there
[02:21] <iznuics> ubuntu__: I've got a good connection and only getting 80kbs .. normally on the mirrors I get in the hundreds.. it's just a busy day!
[02:21] <welshdrago1> anybody know how to get wireless working in hardy with an Atheros AR242x? i have the drivers, but no connections show
[02:22] <sammy> rich_freecomm: it's a setting each irc network can choose for themselves. some of them do, some of them don't, even after you registered it.
[02:22] <bazhang> welshdrago1: does ifconfig show three entries or two
[02:22] <crimsun> telexicon: bug 215728
[02:22] <iznuics> rich_freecomm: what nick did you register?
[02:22] <thenetduck> Hi can someone help me understand Landscape?
[02:22] <telexicon> crimsun, yeah im reading it
[02:22] <sammy> rich_freecomm: you can always ask for it back when you log in, which is what I've been doing for.. however many years now :)
[02:22] <Gman99999> anyway to change your processor performance levels on a laptop in gnome in ubuntu?
[02:22] <welshdrago1> bazhang: 2 secs...
[02:22] <niadh> Does anyone know why my iPod might not work with banshee after upgrading to hardy, despite me having podsluth installed?
[02:22] <Arnos> Does anyone know how long it should take to load 8.04 from USB?
[02:22] <ubuntu__> well thanks IZNUICS makes me feel better.
[02:23] <kneeki> *wave*
[02:23] <iznuics> ubuntu__: :)
[02:23] <Exodus> dabbill: no it's actually we constructed, run "lsmod | grep vidia" in a console, does anythin appear?
[02:23] <bazhang> niadh: amarok works fine here; never tried banshee though
[02:23] <keenish27> anyone know how to get dual displays working on hardy?
[02:23] <welshdrago1> bazhang: 2
[02:23] <niadh> bazhang: Not a great KDE fan, hence the banshee thing
[02:23] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger,
[02:23] <rich_freecomm> nickrud: well..now the account was killed...of course I assume that killed my OP for the channel as well
[02:23] <Millertime_018> bazhang: i cant get any updates or new installs cuz the downloading stops at a certain file number! what should i do?
[02:23] <telexicon> this is an unfortunate situation for the default browser for an LTS release to be in
[02:23] <bjbum> anyone have experience with running vent through wine? i've got most things working except I can only hear 1 voice at a time >.<
[02:23] <bazhang> welshdrago1: is that the one that uses madwifi
[02:23] <dbristow> damn it, I keep getting a md5sum mismatch on wubi.exe, I get three identical copies of the file from major mirrors, yet the same mirrors MD5SUMS lists a different md5sum for just that file, all the *.isos are fine
[02:23] <mgmz> hi, anyone know if i can run wine with "hotspot shield" or know a similar linux prog???????
[02:23] <shadfc> can i use the 8.04 CD to upgrade
[02:24] <nownot> ??
[02:24] <niadh> shadfc: Yes
[02:24] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, yt?
[02:24] <twinkie_addict> nice 504 k trandsfer :)
[02:24] <nickrud> rich_freecomm doesn't kill the account, just the user of the nick. then you can /nick nick, and then /nickserv password <pass>
[02:24] <kneeki> This is a tad silly, but how do I go about getting all 4 desktops (for my cube) to show? Atm, I only have 2 desktops, and the cube looks all flat, like a piece of paper. =p
[02:24] <KyleK> telexicon: better than LTS being stuck with firefox 2 for a long time
[02:24] <fevel> hey... how cn I update my beta hardy?
[02:24] <Millertime_018> kneeki: right click the windows that are already there
[02:24] <iznuics> shadfc: just the alternate from what I've read
[02:24] <freeksh0w86> hmm, everytime i launch a new process, the CPU goes crazy and everything lags including basic mouse movement. what could possibly be the cause of this?
[02:24] <Gman99999> anyway to change your processor performance levels on a laptop in gnome in ubuntu?
[02:24] <Whtiger> ind1g0zzling: ..what?
[02:24] <bazhang> niadh: kde apps run fine in gnome; gtkpod or rhythmbox should do well in gnome though if you are a purist
[02:24] <KyleK> kneeki: turn on more virtual desktops probably
[02:24] <MachinTrucChose> what are the best IRC clients for Linux? Pidgin is horrible, it's like the absolute bare minimum required to use IRC.
[02:24] <nownot> ok need some help phpmyadmin is not cooperating  looks like its in /usr/share how do i access it from locahost?
[02:24] <telexicon> KyleK, right, browser that doesnt work instead of old browser
[02:24] <nickrud> fevel just start the upgrade-manager
[02:24] <ubuntu__> what distribution of linux do corporations use for servers?
[02:25] <telexicon> makes sense to me
[02:25] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, wtf... goddamnit #googoog
[02:25] <kneeki> oh?
[02:25] <Vorbote> kneeki: right-click on the workspaces applet and edit the preferences.
[02:25] <dabbill> Exodus, no i dont see nvidia under lsmod
[02:25] <dbristow> MachinTrucChose: I like xchat
[02:25] <mgmz> synaptic is not working, how come i cant fetch any files????????????????????
[02:25] <nickrud> nownot  go to localhost/phpmyadmin , you should see it
[02:25] <sammy> ubuntu__: redhat and those with 'certifications' because corporations like little sheets of paper
[02:25] <supersako> i am trying to dual boot and virtualize... basically i want to have windows vista and linux dual booted and then in linux be able to open windows in a VM or boot into Windows if i have to...
[02:25] <keenish27> anyone know how to get dual displays working in hardy?
[02:25] <mgmz> ahh
[02:25] <DBautell> MachinTrucChose, xchat
[02:25] <niadh> Bazhang: Not a purest, i use K3b more than gnome burners, but banshee is prefered media player
[02:25] <KyleK> telexicon: what is your problem anyways? I'm only havign issues with its autocompletion, brings up porn to the top all the time :(
[02:25] <welshdrago1> bazhang: i didn't know madwifi supported hardy?
[02:25] <kneeki> Ah ha! That was it =p
[02:25] <iznuics> ubuntu__: red hat, suse, ubuntu (up and coming)
[02:25] <Whtiger> ind1g0zzling: why didn't you just pm me?
[02:25] <jordanjay21> mgmz: it's probably slow, just keep trying or wait
[02:25] <kneeki> I knew it was something horribly simple
[02:25] <corbett> hi, is there anyone who can help me get my maxtor external hard drive mounted and working on ububtu 7.10 - whicj ive just loaded on pc to replace windows, it worked perfectly fine elsewhere on widowqs
[02:25] <nownot> nickrud: yeah its not htere
[02:25] <mgmz> j
[02:25] <mgmz> kk
[02:25] <fevel> nickrud,  It says the system is up to date,  but firefox is still beta
[02:25] <c0mp13371331337_> MachinTrucChose-  BitchX is nice, if you're a fan of the command line.
[02:25] <goat|work> anyone know of a "find and replace" option in any of the terminal text editors,  i cant find one in nano, does vi or emacs have one?  I'm trying to replace a string with another string in 30 locations in a file
[02:25] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, #googoog for explanation lol
[02:25] <jordanjay21> mgmz: I had the same problem a few minutes ago
[02:25] <KyleK> MachinTrucChose: I'm using irssi :)
[02:25] <ubuntu__> stupid little pieces of paper
[02:25] <mgmz> okay
[02:25] <telexicon> KyleK, it eats up 70% CPU and thrashes the disk a ton, making my whole system unusably slow
[02:25] <nickrud> nownot is the config in /etc/apache2/conf.d ?
[02:25] <twinkie_addict> irssi is my fave
[02:25] <Arnos> If I had to use the alternate installer to install to USB can that make my desktop not load fully?
[02:25] <Vorbote> MachinTrucChose: irssi sets the bar for the terminal and x-chat for the graphical desktop IMO.
[02:25] <ubuntu__> oh so they actually do use ubuntu?
[02:25] <dracflamloc> again.. ?? quick question, the applications menu... is there any way to make the items in the menu vertically smaller? i like small menus...
[02:25] <sjovan> hey, som one got a linux wiki to recomend? i have a howto on how to split movies with mplayer and made a script to make it easyer, and a howto take X screenshots of a movie, put it to gether on X colums on a picture (an some other functions)  and made an enhacment for the vcs-script to do that.
[02:26] <KyleK> telexicon: cool
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud, howdy, for password I use.. recover then release then identify...
[02:26] <nickrud> fevel firefox is beta, till june or so
[02:26] <rich_freecomm> nickrud: -NickServ- [rich_freecomm] has been killed
[02:26] <rich_freecomm> --- rich_freecomm :Nickname is already in use.
[02:26] <MachinTrucChose> comp: thanks, but no thanks. I'll go with DB's recommendation ;)
[02:26] <rich_freecomm> *slap to niggin*
[02:26] <Danaman5> Does anyone know why there are a bunch of update packages that I still can't download?
[02:26] <KyleK> goat|work: vi does, dunno how to do it, also theres always using sed
[02:26] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow you know more than I do, rich_freecomm talk to Jack_Sparrow
[02:26] <_alf_> telexicon: how much ram do you have total?
[02:26] <k[5\5]> !wow I like this place!
[02:26] <iznuics> ubuntu__: starting to .. trying to get sun certification or something like that.
[02:26] <jordanjay21> any good GUI-based Irc clients?
[02:26] <Gman99999> anyway to change your processor performance levels on a laptop in gnome in ubuntu?
[02:26] <Whtiger> ind1g0zzling: no?
[02:26] <telexicon> _alf_, its not swapping
[02:26] <freeksh0w86> everytime i launch a new process, the CPU goes crazy and everything lags including basic mouse movement. what could possibly be the cause of this?
[02:26] <jedimasterk>  I am having trouble using the live cd iso. When I boot I get (initramfs) blinking cursor. Tried to burns from two different mirrors. No luck. Should I try an upgrade from alternate cd instead.
[02:26] <ubuntu__> i see
[02:26] <telexicon> _alf_, it does it on every page, even if i just leave it on google after a while it starts up
[02:26] <nownot> nickrud:  yes there is a file named that
[02:26] <niadh> jordanjay21: XChat is good enough
[02:26] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, wait... you know who this is right? This is... Josh, amirite
[02:26] <Exodus> dabbill: that means your nvidia driver isn't loading
[02:26] <_alf_> telexicon: it is strange behavior
[02:27] <samalex> hey guys ..  anyone else installing Ubuntu 8.04 right now ? :)
[02:27] <rconan> what's the deal with the missing dmraid package on the mirrors?
[02:27] <ubuntu__> what did ubuntu use for a browser before firefox?
[02:27] <sammy> jedimasterk: isn't there a 'verify this cd' option on the boot splash of the cd? that should be an easier way to verfity your cd. and, yes, you apparently *have* to upgrade from the alternate cd
[02:27] <_alf_> telexicon: did you do a fresh install?
[02:27] <nickrud> nownot and when you point the browser at http://localhost/phpmyadmin you don't see it?
[02:27] <jordanjay21> niadh: I didn't mean good "enough" :P
[02:27] <Meshezabeel> no more #ubuntu+1 :(
[02:27] <Exodus> dabbill: reinstall your nvidia-glx-new package
[02:27] <iznuics> samalex: probably half the room or more..
[02:27] <Whtiger> ind1g0zzling: yes, why are you bugging me in here instead of.. you know.. pm
[02:27] <c0mp13371331337_> samalex-  I'm apt-getting the dist-upgrade right now.
[02:27] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, God damnit. I've been sending PMs to you for the past three hours only to realize that unregistered users can't send PMs because I wasn't checking the server messages LOL
[02:27] <jedimasterk> I did verify it
[02:27] <telexicon> _alf_, people are noting that firefox is clobbering urlclassifier.sqlite
[02:27] <jordanjay21> niadh: I meant "good" as in brilliant.
[02:27] <KyleK> haha
[02:27] <KyleK> jedimasterk: downloaded the same iso twice? thats what checking the md5sum is for ;)
[02:27] <KyleK> jedimasterk: and yea alternate cd sometimes help
[02:27] <niadh> jordanjay21: Pidgin does the job too, but complicated, versus xchat
[02:27] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, thought you were AFK
[02:27] <ubuntu__> hahaha
[02:27] <samalex> I'm installing 8.04 server, and I guess TONS of folks are running updates as hitting the apt-get mirror during install took forever.
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> rich_freecomm,    /nickserv help               look at recover then release  before you try to re-identify.. make sure you dont have another instance of your chat client open on another side of the cube etc..
[02:27] <KyleK> recent xchats suck i thought
[02:27] <Millertime_018> can anyone tell me how to view the driver thats being used for my wireless card?
 ,x
[02:28] <nownot> nickrud:  that is correct
[02:28] <Arnos> Whats different about the alternate CD?
[02:28] <doug2266778822> what do i need to install to use gdm themes off gnome look im on hardy gnome.
[02:28] <c0mp13371331337_> samalex-  Yeah, that's usually what happens on Ubuntu Day.
[02:28] <Millertime_018> can anyone tell me how to view the drive thats being used for my wireless card?
[02:28] <nickrud> nownot try restarting apache
[02:28] <Whtiger> ind1g0zzling: sounds like user error.
[02:28] <niadh> Arnos: Command line install i think
[02:28] <Odd-rationale> !alternative | Arnos
[02:28] <ubotu> Arnos: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[02:28] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, indeed.
[02:28] <telexicon> _alf_, no, ive been running the beta.. and just updating, but two days ago i purged firefox-3.0, xulrunner, flash, and reinstalled them.. it still does this even with a new profile and no add-ons or flash
[02:28] <dabbill> Exodus, okay removed it and reinstalled, gonna reboot
[02:28] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, is Matt on?
[02:28] <samalex> c0mp13371331337_: I had just installed 7.10 on my home server 2 days ago (new install), so went ahead and started from scratch.
[02:28] <jedimasterk> Checked modsum and burned two different iso's everything was fine
[02:28] <Whtiger> ind1g0zzling: ..pm me =\ this really isn't the place.
[02:28] <Arnos> would useing the alternate CD be likly to help my problem of 8.04 not loading from USB?
[02:28] <_alf_> telexicon: then you've checked everything i could possibly blame
[02:29] <Gman99999> anyway to change your processor performance levels on a laptop in gnome in ubuntu?
[02:29] <ubuntu__> so to those that use linux daily whats your take on this hardy 8.04?
[02:29] <GhostShell> hi, happy ubuntu upgrade day everyone :D
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: boot from usb?
[02:29] <freeksh0w86> I have trackerd essentially disabled, but everytime i launch a new process, the CPU goes crazy and everything lags including basic mouse movement. what could possibly be the cause of this? does anyone else experience this issue? i'm going to buy a system with a quad-core CPU eventually for this.
[02:29] <Danaman5> Why are there so many upgrade packages that I can't install?
[02:29] <jedimasterk> Never had problems with Live CD's in the past
[02:29] <jordanjay21> ubuntu__: that'd be better question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:29] <Arnos> Yes, you can put Ubuntu on a USB
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu__, discussion in #Ubuntu-offtopic thanks.. this is the support room
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: you wish to install from USB?
[02:29] <nownot> nickrud:  didnt work
[02:29] <samalex> ubuntu__: I use Ubuntu Server daily, and it's nice ... butyou're probably looking for Desktop users :)
[02:29] <ANTDx1> ubuntu__, i havent had a chance to use it yet.
[02:29] <Gman99999> I feel the new upgrade is great
[02:29] <Arnos> no, I installed to USB
[02:29] <isdepopecath> Hi, I have a question about switiching to Ubuntu. I'm a long time Windows user, so am hesitant about changing my OS. I'd like to download Ubuntu and try it out, but my only current machine is my laptop, running Vista. Is there any way for me to install Ubuntu, try it, and, if I don't like it, go back to my original OS without losing anything?
[02:29] <CaptainMorgan> just attempted to start the install... it hangs after making a selection from the install menu right after startup.... is this a hardware issue? supposedly Hardy heron has already run smooth on other's systems identical to mine... maybe the CD is bad? no matter which option is chosen from the menu it's as if the CD drive stops working(which I know works fine otherwise) and then nothing happens and also I can't make another sele
[02:29] <Arnos> from the CD
[02:29] <iznuics> ubuntu__: if it's anything like the last LTS version (Dapper Drake 6.06) it'll be just fine..
[02:29] <nickrud> nownot a sec while I check my install
[02:29] <Gman99999> it seems to work faster on my laptop
[02:29] <black_13> is bad if the install of ubuntu server is stuck at 40% (scanning mirror) ?
[02:29] <c0mp13371331337_> samalex-  Yeah, I'm TRYING the dist-upgrade method.  It's never worked for me in the past, not once, but I figure it's got to one of these times.... ;-)
[02:29]  * Mimi asks: Guys does "DISPLAY=: 0  to 7" mean get gettys?
[02:29] <JoshBP> Wow! Using a different mirror is fast
[02:30] <jordanjay21> isdepopecath: try wubi, it's on the Ubuntu 8.04 live disc
[02:30] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: probably the alt cd will not do much better.
[02:30] <samalex> c0mp13371331337_: I've done it successfully on Server, but tried and failed once on Desktop.  That was a few versions ago though./
[02:30] <rich_freecomm> Jack_Sparrow: on this server my name is ok...but not on FreeNode
[02:30] <ubuntu__> wow i got more then i bargined for :(
[02:30] <Arnos> now I am trying to boot from just the USB.  I can login but then it just shows the background and nevers gets to the desktop
[02:30] <Zelta> the day people start recommending wubi is the day I...
[02:30] <deadend> ubuntu__: So far I like it now that it has been stable for the last week or so. A few problems to sort out here and there mostly due to my config.
[02:30] <Zelta> wait, nvm
[02:30] <[T]-Rex> is it possible to put my ubuntu on my uSB drive and use it at a friends house?
[02:30] <Arnos> bummer
[02:30] <bazhang> isdepopecath: yes wubi or unetbootin
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> rich_freecomm, should work the same there.
[02:30] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: how big is your USB? > 4gb?
[02:30] <samalex> For me, I guess I'm gunshy from the MS world with OS upgrades... I'd rather do a clean insta..
[02:30] <sammy> !dualboot | isdepopecath
[02:30] <ubotu> isdepopecath: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:30] <iznuics> rich_freecomm: you're on freenode
[02:30] <Arnos> 2GB
[02:30] <Arnos> no 4GB
[02:30] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: ouch. that is tight.
[02:30] <nownot> nickrud:  are your phpmyadmin files located in /usr/share?
[02:30] <unop> Mimi, not really .. the display manager sets this up for you, and there can be multiple displays per VT
[02:31] <sammy> oh that didn't work. wasn't it a pipe?oh. no it wasnt
[02:31] <Arnos> 4GB is tight?
[02:31] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: oh 4gb is better.
[02:31] <isdepopecath> thanks guys.
[02:31] <rich_freecomm> Jack_Sparrow: is rich_freecomm_'s me over there
[02:31] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: did you make sure not to included swap space?
[02:31] <Arnos> I used the auto partion tool
[02:31] <Skuller> Hey guys. I wanted to deploy Gutsy on my school's library PC's for web surfing. There are three. When I pop in the cd and boot from it and select 'install' at the main menu, it gives an error and comes to a command prompt style interface with busybox written on top. Any idea what's wrong?
[02:31] <Arnos> that should have made a swap... shouldn't it have?
[02:31] <unop> why is floodbot flooding the channel? :>
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> rich_freecomm, Im sure you will work it out.. but it really isnt a support issue for here
[02:31] <chibi_killstick> has anyone encountered this error after updating?
[02:31] <nickrud> nownot hm, it's working here. http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ . And yes, with the config in /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf pointing to /etc/phpmyadmin.conf
[02:31] <JoshBP> I keep having an error while upgrading!  It says it can't find an expected entry when setting sources
[02:31] <Mimi> unop:  thanks .. mmmmm the reason Im wondering is I saw a guide online to run a wine game on its own X server (not the existing gnome) (and if youre wondering why im not asking at #wine its because no one's there ;P )
[02:31] <chibi_killstick> symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_xlib_surface_create
[02:31] <CaptainMorgan> can anyone assist ?
[02:32] <samalex> Just curious, anyone else installing Server or is everyone pretty much doing Desktop?
[02:32] <ng0n> sda1   sdb1
[02:32] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: I would be better to manual parttion andnot included a swap space. just / (root)
[02:32] <Mimi> !ask | CaptainMorgan
[02:32] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:32] <mincom> who has yodm 3d
[02:32] <Gman99999> anyway to change your processor performance levels on a laptop in gnome in ubuntu?
[02:32] <iznuics> samalex: downloading server now.
[02:32] <Vorbote> Gman99999: you need to set up the parameters of the cpu governor. Check /etc/init.d/powernowd and /etc/default/rcS (for actual settings). Don't touch it until you are sure you know what you are doing!
[02:32] <criminy> !sources
[02:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[02:32] <Arnos> so, swap is bad on a USB?
[02:32] <criminy> !sources.apt
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sources.apt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <GhostShell> Gman99999: install "laptop-mode", then use it
[02:32] <samalex> iznuics: nice...  I ahd to do it via bittorrent, and only took about 30 minutes.
[02:32] <JoshBP> !test
[02:32] <ubotu> Failed.
[02:32] <deadend> Skuller: are you using the desktop install or the alternate disks
[02:32] <dabbill> Exodus, still not showing Nvidia on lsmod
[02:32] <samalex> doing via HTTP was taking forever.
[02:32] <k[5\5]> updating....
[02:32] <criminy> I just hosed my system and need a gatech sources.apt
[02:32] <doug2266778822> when i go to system admin, then login window it wont open how can i fix this?
[02:32] <solace> Help.
[02:33] <solace> Lol.
[02:33] <iznuics> samalex: I've got an hour left. :(
[02:33] <rich_freecomm_> Jack_Sparrow & nickrud: Thank you!!! it works now.....ug
[02:33] <Skuller> deadend: desktop
[02:33] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: preferably swap is not desired on small disk spaces.
[02:33] <nickrud> !gutsysources | criminy (works in hardy too)
[02:33] <ubotu> criminy (works in hardy too): gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[02:33] <solace> How do I update from beta to full release?
[02:33] <chibi_killstick> does anyone know how to fix this error?
[02:33] <JoshBP> should i use the alternate cd instead of network?
[02:33] <chibi_killstick> symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_xlib_surface_create
[02:33] <dabbill> Exodus, still got the low-graphics warning when login in also
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> glad to hear it
[02:33] <Odd-rationale> solace: run an update
[02:33] <rich_freecomm_> heh but now I'm rich_freecomm_ here..heh!
[02:33] <nownot> nickrud:  i dont have /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.con you mind pasteing that file so i can create
[02:33] <cal_> wh
[02:33] <solace> It does it automaticly?
[02:33] <Arnos> so do I just make one partition then?
[02:33] <cal_> where is the 64bit torrent
[02:33] <samalex> iznuics: try downloading via bittorrent and see if it goes quicker.. justa suggestion.  I started http download and after 20 minutes and it saying 2 hours left I kicked off a bittorrent download -- 30 minutes later I was instaling.
[02:33] <CaptainMorgan> Mimi spare me the patronization - I already asked my question
[02:33] <evilbug> how can i upgrade to hardy via the alternative cd?the main boot menu offers no "update" option.
[02:33] <rpedro> !slow
[02:33] <ubotu> The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[02:33] <rich_freecomm_> Jack_Sparrow so..how do I get them BOTH without the _ :D
[02:33] <Exodus> dabbill: do you get the nvidia logo?
[02:33] <JoshBP> I am still having trouble updating. Is it better to use a cd?
[02:33] <iznuics> samalex: what are you using for a client?
[02:34] <criminy> I can't really get to any desktop.
[02:34] <dabbill> Exodus, nope
[02:34] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: yes. and make sure that you install grub to the usb drive not the hard drive
[02:34] <rpedro> !slowlikevista
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slowlikevista - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <rpedro> :P
[02:34] <samalex> I downloaded it using Azureus on OSX...  my laptop is an ibook.
[02:34] <nickrud> nownot it's a link to /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf , so ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache2.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[02:34] <criminy> so I have to term it up to get everything back up
[02:34] <Arnos> I have the hard drives unplugged
[02:34] <samalex> buti'm installing it on a Dell system.
[02:34] <Arnos> :)
[02:34] <solace> Okay, I wanna make a CD that I can take to school, and put it in the CD drive, And boot to CD, and it loads ubuntu, instead of installing it.
[02:34] <Pelo> JoshBP, the alternate cd or the dvd , just pop it in and you will be asked if you want to upgrade,  when asked if you want to check for pacakges online say no
[02:34] <solace> How do I go about  doing that?
[02:34] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: cool. that is the way I do it.
[02:34] <kenan> Ever since I installed Hardy Heron, I have this glow that goes around my panels and windows and seem to change colour on every boot, how do I disable them?
[02:34] <Odd-rationale> solace: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/04/21/upgrading-from-beta-to-rc-and-beyond/
[02:34] <Exodus> dabbill: well, your problem is the graphics drivers aren't loading, /var/log/Xorg.0.log should tell you with more detail why that is
[02:34] <Gman99999> is that hard drive wrecking feature fixed in hardy heron?
[02:35] <samalex> yay, rebooted and logging into.  nice!
[02:35] <Stroganoff> Gman99999 what feature?
[02:35] <evilbug> Pelo- when does it ask me if i want to update?
[02:35] <iznuics> samalex: Is there a download link for bittorrent files on ubuntu.com?
[02:35] <JoshBP> K
[02:35] <telexicon> Gman99999, i dont think that was ever enabled by default in any version
[02:35] <Exodus> dabbill: anyway, try loading it manually with "sudo modprobe nvidia", see if it loaded with "lsmod | grep nvidia" and then restart X with "ctrl alt backspace" you don't have to reboot.
[02:35] <corbett> hi, is there anyone who can help me get my maxtor external hard drive mounted and working on ububtu 7.10 - which ive just loaded on pc to replace windows, it worked perfectly fine elsewhere on widows - its formAtted ntsf
[02:35] <Gman99999> the hard drive spin down one that was all over the news
[02:35] <CaptainMorgan> can anyone assist? I'm sure my question has been long overlooked simply due to the number of visitors talking......
[02:35] <]grimm[> Is there a way to assign mount points to drives (outside of using fstab)?  I was able to set it under properties in Gutsy, but that seems to have changed with the latest version of Gnome and policykit.  On a related note, is there a way to automount internal drives without editing fstab manually?
[02:35] <sammy> iznuics: type /topic
[02:35] <telexicon> Gman99999, yeah.. about that..
[02:35] <JoshBP> !gusty
[02:35] <ubotu> It is spelt !guTSy :)
[02:35] <evilbug> Pelo- because there was only "Install Ubuntu" at the main boot screen.
[02:35] <Exodus> dabbill: besides that I can't help ya from over here :P
[02:35] <bazhang> CaptainMorgan: repeat your question
[02:35] <Pelo> kenan, either you have the desktop effects or metacity compositing enabled,  start by checking hte desktip effect,  in the apperance menu ,  it that's not it ask me and I will tell you how to turn off metacity compositing
[02:36] <rich_freecomm_>   /nick no no really, I'm the same person on both areas
[02:36] <deadend> Skuller: The desktop cds have always seemed to be a bit buggy on the install bit. They are handy for showing off ubuntu but at this time not much more then that. Download the alternate install iso, check the md5, burn it then do a disk check, that should solve your problem
[02:36] <goat|work> funny ubotu
[02:36] <CaptainMorgan> just attempted to start the install... it hangs after making a selection from the install menu right after startup.... is this a hardware issue? supposedly Hardy heron has already run smooth on other's systems identical to mine... maybe the CD is bad? no matter which option is chosen from the menu it's as if the CD drive stops working(which I know works fine otherwise) and then nothing happens and also I can't make another sele
[02:36] <Exodus> dabbill: depending on what the Xorg log says about why nvidia isn't loading and it's falling back on vesa, I got no idea =b
[02:36] <JoshBP> !hardy
[02:36] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents
[02:36] <seamus7> ]grimm[ have you tried the 'mount' applet listed in the panel add to list
[02:36] <dale> if i update my computer to hardy, will it erase my saved files? I have gutsy now
[02:36] <GhostShell> Gman99999: yes, i use spindown. it was only to specific hardware setups
[02:36] <nownot> nickrud:  ok now i have to enable php for apahce
[02:36] <iznuics> sammy: thanks..
[02:36] <JoshBP> how does ubotu work?
[02:36] <Pelo> evilbug,  no , you boot your installed ubuntu and pop the cd/dvd in
[02:36] <sammy> ]grimm[: look into udev rules, you can define mount points based on the information the device gives when it connects.
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> dale: no
[02:36] <JoshBP> !ubotu
[02:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:36] <Ertyle> !topic | cal_
[02:36] <RxDx> does kubuntu come with KDE 3 or 4?
[02:36] <Pelo> JoshBP,  /msg ubotu keyword
[02:36] <evilbug> Pelo- :( i did that too and it just showed me that i have a disc in,nothing popped up.
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> dale: all you files will be in place. But it never hurts to backup
[02:36] <]grimm[> seamus7: I haven't, I will check that
[02:36] <unop> Mimi, hmm, perhaps it's launched like this.  xinit ~/.wine_game_xinitrc -- /usr/X11R6/bin/Xnest :2  #~/.wine_game_xinitrc should contain the commands to launch the game server, set environment, etc
[02:37] <dale> cool...thanx
[02:37] <nickrud> nownot sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[02:37] <CaptainMorgan> bazhang, I'm burning another CD now.. to see if it makes any difference ... :(
[02:37] <Pelo> evilbug, hold on, there is also a command you can use
[02:37] <mojo> How do I add to ubotu's database?
[02:37] <Pelo> !update > evilbug  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[02:37] <Izzy_> yo
[02:37] <]grimm[> sammy: I was curious is there was a more user-friendly GUI way to do it to make it easy for someone who would be averse to any kind of text editing
[02:37] <Pelo> evilbug,  in those links look for upgrading from cd
[02:37] <Ertyle> !botabuse | rpedro
[02:37] <ubotu> rpedro: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[02:37] <samalex> finally, they commented out the Ubuntu install CD in the sources.list... I hated that this was always there since I never keep my install CD in thedrive
[02:37] <iznuics> sammy: ah that was for desktop.. I was looking for server.
[02:37] <bazhang> CaptainMorgan: check md5sum on iso; reburn at really low speed; do checkdisk at startup, if all that fails then either get a new iso, reburn again or try the alternate cd
[02:37] <Pelo> !upgrade > evilbug  sorry wrong one
[02:38] <evilbug> Pelo- i saw the main upgrade instructions.'
[02:38] <kenan> Pelo: none of the effects are selected under Appearances>Visual Effects so Im guessing that it has something to do with metacity compositing?
[02:38] <CaptainMorgan> bazhang, will do, thanks
[02:38] <JoshBP> !upgrade is slow
[02:38] <nownot> nickrud:  says its alread there
[02:38] <Pelo> evilbug,  it needs to be the alternate install cd or the dvd , not the live cd
[02:38] <JoshBP> !upgrade
[02:38] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:38] <Millertime_018> does anyone know how to view which drivers are being used
[02:38] <rich_freecomm> ok....I'm back as me...now to test freenode
[02:38] <evilbug> Pelo- i know,i burnt the alternate cd.it has "alternate" in the .iso name.
[02:38] <bazhang> JoshBP: sure; what do you expect release day?
[02:39] <CaptainMorgan> bazhang, checkdisk at startup like all options from the menu ALSO hangs... so I'll try another disk
[02:39] <Millertime_018> drivers!
[02:39] <newscane> o
[02:39] <rich_freecomm> zI give up
[02:39] <Millertime_018> drivers
[02:39] <Millertime_018> !
[02:39] <dabbill> Exodus, FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia. when doing sudo modprobe nvidia
[02:39] <JoshBP> 1
[02:39] <evilbug> Pelo- thanks,i'll just try again tomorrow.
[02:39] <benh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/221626
[02:39] <benh> blah
[02:39] <Millertime_018> how do i view what drivers are being used?
[02:39] <JoshBP> !please tell me about python
[02:39] <benh> stupid postinst script
[02:39] <Pelo> kenan,  ok , open gconf-editor   under /apps/metacity/general,   look for compositing,  it's probably checked   , beware it will probably crash X , it does on mine , ctrl-ald-backspace , to restart X
[02:39] <sean_> tanath: turns out I just needed to install the compiz manager.
[02:39] <meoblast001> hi Pelo
[02:39] <Pelo> hi meoblast001
[02:39] <meoblast001> Pelo: havent seen u in a long time
[02:39] <tanath> sean_, o.O
[02:40] <newscane> i'm trying to debootstrap, and i keep getting messages about "failure trying to run chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc"
[02:40] <tanath> sean_, heh, i'll have to remember that
[02:40] <newscane> ideas?
[02:40] <Pelo> meoblast001, I've been around,  but not has much
[02:40] <ants> jjJJj
[02:40] <sean_> tanath: figures. ::)
[02:40] <meoblast001> Pelo: i havent been around at all
[02:40] <rich_freecomm> I think I'll register several names so that I can use each of them when I can't have only 1 name :P
[02:40] <ants> sorry
[02:40] <chibi_killstick> does anyone have a solution to this error?
[02:40] <Pelo> meoblast001, it's not compulsary
[02:40] <chibi_killstick> symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_xlib_surface_create
[02:40] <chibi_killstick> i get it when i try to run synaptic
[02:40] <seamus7> Millertime_018 proprietary hardward drivers are listed in System/Administration/HardwareDrivers
[02:40] <kenan> Pelo: i wanna keep all my effects on with compiz and such, i just want this annoying glow gone
[02:40] <samalex> hehe, apt-get upgrade = 0 packges :)  Nice ..
[02:40] <bod_> JoshBP, do you now your !upgrade is slow and things is ggetting sent to the ops channel?
[02:41] <Exodus> dabbill: there's the error, it seems the driver wasn't correctly installed. I guess try a "sudo aptitude purge nvidia-glx-new" and update you repository "sudo aptitude update" and then reinstall, besides that you got me beat, my driver just loads, I think maybe your file is corrupt somehow however unlikely that is.
[02:41] <Millertime_018> yea but see, in ubuntu 7.1 my light for my wireless card flashed when in use
[02:41] <Pelo> chibi_killstick, reinstall that package from the command line,   sudo apt-get install packagename --reinstall
[02:41] <Millertime_018> now, in 8.04 it doesn't
[02:41] <Millertime_018> it stays off all the time.
[02:41] <ubuntu__> that blows
[02:41] <Roscar> ok, I've got a question. Does Ubuntu release a list of changes since 7.10?
[02:41] <Millertime_018> i was talking about through the terminal
[02:41] <bazhang> Millertime_018: that is it? the light? does the card work?
[02:41] <binarybandit> Millertime_018, think of all the power you're saving!
[02:41] <Pelo> kenan, ask in #compiz then, it's probably just the shadows
[02:41] <meoblast001> Pelo: i bought the new Hardy limited edition shirt today and my mom was all freaked out that Canonical was gonna steal her credit card stuff...... i told her they make my OS
[02:42] <dabbill> Exodus, thanks man i will give that a try
[02:42] <Pelo> Roscar, yes,  go to the website and do a search for changelog
[02:42] <Millertime_018> well i was thinking "thats a change" and i'm not bitching but i think thats why my thing wont update
[02:42] <ubuntu__> meoblast001: hahahahahha
[02:42] <Pelo> meoblast001, LOL
[02:42] <Millertime_018> it will get on the internet, go to websites but wont update
[02:42] <Millertime_018> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:42] <Millertime_018> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:42] <Millertime_018> adam@Millertime-PC:~$
[02:42] <taxman> Roscar: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features is that what you meant?
[02:42] <FloodBot2> Millertime_018: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:42] <mojo> !ubotu
[02:42] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:42] <Millertime_018> i got that when i ran apt-get update
[02:42] <meoblast001> Pelo: i bet she'd buy something off Microsoft, cuz they use that at her work
[02:42] <JoshBP> Can anyone tell me why it keeps saying it didn't find some apt line when dist-upgrading?
[02:42] <meoblast001> i wont buy SHIT off Microsoft
[02:42] <bod_> !msgthebot | mojo
[02:42] <ubotu> mojo: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[02:43] <marko-_-> Millertime_018, run sudo apt-get update
[02:43] <Roscar> pelo: that doesn't work.
[02:43] <f0rmat> i am having problems with the repos after upgrading
[02:43]  * Pelo already suspected that giving away a free OS was just a dastardly skeem to get all of our money
[02:43] <sean_> Millertime_018: try "sudo killall apt-get"
[02:43] <bazhang> sudo first Millertime_018?
[02:43] <ubuntu__> i hope microsoft and that ceo they have burn in hell
[02:43] <nickrud> nownot been away for a bit, things ok ?
[02:43] <bod_> !language | meoblast001
[02:43] <meoblast001> Pelo: i even go as far as not buying an Xbox and going with PS3 (owns)
[02:43] <ubotu> meoblast001: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:43] <ubuntu__> going to short their stock!
[02:43] <chibi_killstick> Pelo: didn't work.  do you know of any other solutions?
[02:43] <blankhead> man not even in hardy heron could u get a decent refresh rate damn... im stuck at 51hz @ 1440 by 900... isnt there an easy way to get it to 75hz? or at least 70 or 60????????
[02:43] <Pelo> !changelog
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <nownot> nickrud:  worked thanks a million
[02:43] <mojo> bod_::  that was partly for JoshBP who shebanged a sentace to the bot
[02:43] <Roscar> taxman: I'm looking for changes since, not features in general. I'm hoping to find out reasons why I should migrate.
[02:43] <Millertime_018> havent used sudo apt-get update, just ran apt-get update one sec
[02:43] <bazhang> ubuntu__: please stop now
[02:43] <meoblast001> oops sorry..... forgot that this isn't Image-Line Collab (where tey have no profane rules)
[02:43] <rich_freecomm> well, I registered rich_freecomm2 but it wouldn't set a password and said it was already registered and wanted a password *slapping head against monitor*
[02:43] <Millertime_018> look! see
[02:44] <Pelo> Roscar, search for release note or notes
[02:44] <bod_> mojo, oh, my bad,. those things JoshPB is writing is bein sent to the ops
[02:44] <dfga1> how do i reinstall grub
[02:44] <Millertime_018> i ran that and the update process stopped halfway through! its like the server just quits on me!
[02:44] <dfga1> !install grub
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install grub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <blankhead> theres instructions on google dffal
[02:44] <seamus7> dfga1 sudo updated-grub
[02:44] <goat|work> rich_freecomm: how about rich_freecomm_ ?
[02:44] <Millertime_018> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/multiverse Sources
[02:44] <Millertime_018> 47% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[02:44] <Pelo> chibi_killstick, that't the only thing that came to mind,  sorry , maybe someone else knows
[02:44] <seamus7> dfga1 oops I mean sudo update-grub
[02:44] <rich_freecomm> this is too much work to try to get a simple account to work....I'll be on pidgin
[02:44] <mojo> bod_::  np.  btw, know how i add info to ubotu?
[02:44] <Millertime_018> it stops right there
[02:44] <marko-_-> Millertime_018, because hardy just came out
[02:44] <Roscar> pelo: I was looking at the release notes. They give you a list of know problems and issues for upgrading but not a list of changes.
[02:44] <sean_> tanath: hahahha trouble now. compiz manager isn't working. :P
[02:44] <marko-_-> and people are upgrading there system
[02:44] <marko-_-> all over the world