[09:38] <jeniffer> hello friends. I have a question: How can i make the HDD temperature to go down a little bit. In ubuntu, the HDD temperature is a lot higher than in windows.... is it possible to reduce it under linux???????????
[09:38] <Slemming> indus: sudo apt-get install xulrunner-1.9.1
[09:38] <u_dparte> ehsh, google around till you find the actual command
[09:38] <AndorinKato> jeniffer: Is your drive getting adequate ventilation and cooling from the fans?
[09:38] <Slemming> indus: I think, that's one of the dependancies my firefox 3.5v4 has
[09:38] <indus> Slemming: oops iam on hardy
[09:39] <wisler> anyone help me to compile samba-3.3.6 for ubuntu 9.04????????????
[09:39] <u_dparte> firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5-branding xulrunner-1.9.1
[09:39] <AndorinKato> AndorinKato: Do I even know what I'm talking about?
[09:39] <Jordan_U> wisler: Why not use the packaged samba?
[09:39] <jeniffer> AndorinKato exactly the same when i have booted windows....
[09:39] <indus> Slemming: but the thing is, mozilla binaries come with their own version of xul i believe and it loads it from same directory
[09:39] <psycolizard> wow, lotsa people. I got the error of "BIOS does not provide ACPI _PSS objects in a way linux understands" can someone please tell me what that means and how to fix?
[09:39] <wisler> because it dont work
[09:39] <Thingymebob> ehsh: Replace packagename with the name of whichever package you want the source for e.g gedit gnome-terminal etc
[09:40] <wisler> i have done as it is discribted in the wiki but it didnt work
[09:40] <AndorinKato> Slemming: I think I may just end up wiping and reinstalling, it's not a tall order for me to xfer a few hundred music tracks and some miscellaneous files to the laptop with Giver after a reinstall
[09:40] <Jordan_U> wisler: In what way, and why do you think that it will work if you compile from source?
[09:40] <Anirban1987>  How can I set my personal web hosting Control panel on a different port than port 80 like CPanel is in port 2082 ?
[09:40] <Slemming> Jordan_U: The following extra packages will be installed: firefox firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-branding firefox-3.5-branding ubufox
[09:40] <lesshaste> I reinstalled debconf, now I get these errors when doing a kernel upgrade in ubuntu
[09:40] <lesshaste> http://pastebin.ca/1481676
[09:40] <u_dparte> Anirban1987, that depends on your server configuration
[09:41] <Jordan_U> Slemming: firefox-3.5 *recommends* ubufox, which depends on firefox-3.0 ( which is understandable but still a bug )
[09:41] <Lord-Readman> Hello, I am trying to get a webserver working, I followed the how to forge perfect server 9.04 but didnt install ISPconfig2, I can get one domain working on the server, but I cant seem to create a vertualhost for another domain to point to a different folder, i.e. i set it to /home/mysite/ and it still loads from /var/www/ and says IT WORKS! and I have restarted.
[09:41] <Anirban1987> u_dparte : Mine is Ubuntu 9.04 server 32 bit. How to set it up like that ?
[09:41] <johnibanez> Hello, I'm a Windows user and I'm planning to move to Ubuntu. I'm a freelance web developer and I use Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Flash and other Adobe products. I have the CS3 Masterpack. My question is would these programs work well with Ubuntu and wine? And would I be able to run multiple simultaneous programs with Wine?
[09:41] <Jordan_U> Slemming: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 --no-install-recommends
[09:42] <Slemming> Jordan_U: that was apt-get install firefox-3.5 only
[09:42] <u_dparte> Anirban1987, you will need to set your http config to listen on those ports I believe on ubuntu their is a file called ports.conf
[09:42] <h4f> hi all
[09:42] <Jordan_U> johnibanez: No to the first( only CS2 ), yes to the second
[09:42] <sagemode> johnibanez: All of the is not 100% working but alternatives are all great
[09:42] <ziroday> johnibanez: most of those applications don't work well with wine unfortunately. However you can use a windows virtual machine and run all those applications, or use linux alternatives to those applications
[09:42] <u_dparte> Anirban1987, I'm not positive though b/c I only use redhat for web server and the configs are different
[09:42] <Jordan_U> Slemming: I know
[09:43] <moncky> johnibanez: for compatibility and wine have a look at the winehq site, to your final point, yes you can run multiple programmes
[09:43] <djiezes> johnibanez: no, CS3 does not work with wine under linux/ubuntu.
[09:43] <sagemode> johnibanez: I giveup adobe for gimp, and inkscape: and I work with neatbeans6.5
[09:43] <moncky> johnibanez: My question would be, why move a way from windows if your current software requires it?
[09:43] <wisler> i have compiled samba now the error message is error while loading shared libraries: litdb.so.1
[09:44] <Anirban1987> u-dparte : Actually I want the EHCP control panel to appear on http://xyz.com:2082/ like that
[09:44] <u_dparte> Anirban1987, do you have a 64bit processor?
[09:44] <psycolizard> sigh this is a nightmare, can someone who knows about BIOS issues pull me aside in a private message please?
[09:44] <Anirban1987> u_dparte : Its in a Virtual Machine
[09:44] <Jordan_U> johnibanez: Linux might not be a good choice for your needs yet, unless you want to run windows in a VM.
[09:44] <vcvg> hey, anybody know how to force 'make' to ignore error at a line?
[09:44] <sagemode> johnibanez: You can also use virtualbox seamless mode if you have kickus desktop... but that's not moving away from a window
[09:45] <Lord-Readman> Anyone here good with apache on ubuntu I really need some help
[09:45] <Daemon_> can someone help me with my monitor
[09:45] <sagemode> johnibanez: r u from phil..?
[09:45] <discorpia> i have a samsung syncmaster 2493hm, i'm running freshly installed 9.04, how do i get it to detect the monitor (currently set to a generic supporting maximum 1280x900, but can't find any way to change it)
[09:45] <moncky> Lord-Readman: just ask somone might know
[09:45] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Lord-Readman
[09:45] <u_dparte> Lord-Readman, what's your problem
[09:45] <Lord-Readman> i did ask
[09:45] <Lord-Readman> the chanel is moving very fast
[09:45] <discorpia> there doesn't seem to be any proper display/screen sections in xorg.conf nowadays either
[09:45] <Lord-Readman> Hello, I am trying to get a webserver working, I followed the how to forge perfect server 9.04 but didnt install ISPconfig2, I can get one domain working on the server, but I cant seem to create a vertualhost for another domain to point to a different folder, i.e. i set it to /home/mysite/ and it still loads from /var/www/ and says IT WORKS! and I have restarted.
[09:45] <thechef> How do I change the master password of my keyring?
[09:45] <FloodBot2> Lord-Readman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:46] <sagemode> johnibanez: r u from phil.. join #ubuntu-ph
[09:46] <Stdht> Could someone please help me
[09:46] <Stdht> I have in sound devices HDA intel alc268 (ALSA) , HDA intel analog alc268 (OSS),HDA intel analog alc268 (OSS), Alsa advanced linux sound architecture, OSS open sound system, PulsaeAudioServer
[09:46] <Stdht> why so many devices/// comparing to windows
[09:46] <u_dparte> apache people IM me I will try to help you but the chat is moving to fast
[09:46] <indus> Slemming: ok it runs but loads old firefox .
[09:46] <dutch> Hi can some one help please i dont seem to have the appearance icon so i can install new themes could any one help
[09:46] <ziroday> Stdht: ALSA and OSS are different soundsystems. I recommend you pick the first option
[09:47] <moncky> Lord-Readman: have a look at your httpd.conf there is a setting there that you neet to change so you can use /home dirs
[09:47] <Daemon_> how can i change my display refresh rate to 60hz?
[09:47] <johnibanez> @Jordan_U, sagemode, ziroday, djiezes: Thank you mates. @moncky, I got spotted by Team Philippines Anti Piracy team and some of my freelance mates.
[09:47] <indus> dutch: its in system>preferences>appearance no?
[09:47] <johnibanez> @sagemode : Yes I'm from the philippines. :D
[09:47] <ziroday> dutch: open a terminal and type in gnome-appearance-properties, does anything pop up?
[09:47] <Jordan_U> johnibanez: np
[09:47] <discorpia> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg gives nothing related to monitor selection, where am i supposed to change this??
[09:47] <Slemming> indus: doh
[09:48] <u_dparte> discorpia, nvidia?
[09:48] <indus> Slemming: yeah had this problem before, have to remove old ff profile probably
[09:48] <ziroday> Stdht: please don't PM. ALSA and OSS are both soundsystems and are seperate from each other. You should pick ALSA
[09:48] <Slemming> indus: mine migrated
[09:48] <dutch> yes it does when run in the ter
[09:48] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Gotta dostuff, good luck with your problem
[09:48] <Jordan_U> discorpia: System > Preferences > Display
[09:48] <Stdht> ziroday ok
[09:48] <discorpia> Jordan_U: yeah, as i said, i can't change monitor typ there and only have a few resolutions to choose from
[09:48] <ziroday> dutch: then its installed in your system :), it should be under System > Preferences > Appearance
[09:49] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Thank you for your help L)
[09:49] <AndorinKato> :)
[09:49] <sagemode> johnibanez: Yup Phil Anti Piracy is moving up these days
[09:49] <Stdht> ziroday so I have both installed,
[09:49] <Stdht> ?
[09:49] <Jordan_U> discorpia: What gfx card?
[09:49] <dutch> no its not there but that is perfect with the command thaanks
[09:49] <ziroday> Stdht: it would appear so but I'm not certain
[09:49] <Daemon_> how can i change my display refresh rate to 60hz?
[09:49] <sagemode> johnibanez: Join ubuntu-ph mate!
[09:49] <discorpia> should that matter since it's not my graphics card it's the monitor parameters i want to change? does gfx card matter?
[09:49] <Stdht> if I choose sound devices I see
[09:49] <indus> dutch: you can right click on main menu and add it then
[09:49] <racecar56> how do i get 3D working nicely on my ati radeon 9800 pro?
[09:49] <Stdht> HDA intel alc268 (ALSA) , HDA intel analog alc268 (OSS),HDA intel analog alc268 (OSS), Alsa advanced linux sound architecture, OSS open sound system, PulsaeAudioServer
[09:49] <discorpia> it's ati, but i haven't installed fglrx yet because when i tried to install it things got really slow and the xorg process kept going on 96%
[09:50] <ziroday> racecar56: it should work out of the box with the -ati driver
[09:50] <racecar56> ziroday, it sucks
[09:50] <racecar56> ziroday, bad
[09:50] <ziroday> racecar56: pardon?
[09:50] <racecar56> ziroday, it lags really bad
[09:50] <psycolizard> Can someone tell me what this means and how to fix it please? "BIOS does not provide ACPT _PSS objects in a way linux understands"
[09:50] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Glad I could... well... try .)
[09:50] <humbolt> are firefox 3.5 packages available for jaunty already? the final version and as full replacement for FF3.1 not as parallel install with extra preferences dir and the such?
[09:50] <Stdht> ziroday I can test all of them but only HDA Intel(alc268) do not work
[09:50] <ziroday> racecar56: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[09:50] <racecar56> ziroday, k
[09:50] <ziroday> Stdht: okay, well then use the one that works then
[09:51] <Jordan_U> discorpia: Yes, unfortunately the proprietary drivers don't support the standard interface for configuring monitors.
[09:51] <niarbeht> psycolizard: that relates to cpu frequency scaling.  What CPU do you have?
[09:51] <Stdht> ziroday so I do but why there so many devices comparing to windows
[09:52] <ziroday> Stdht: because of the different sound systems, windows only has one sound system (AFAIK)
[09:52] <racecar56> ziroday, http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f7cee64a7
[09:52] <humbolt> why is my system so slow (tons of IO wait) after resuming from suspend?
[09:52] <gralco> hi is anyone interested in learning C++ along with me
[09:52] <discorpia> Jordan_U: oh, ok. but i haven't installed those drivers yet. it is a ati radeon 3450, but performance is miserable when i try running fglrx, so something must be buggy with the proprietary drivers and that card then
[09:52] <Jordan_U> humbolt: suspend to disk?
[09:52] <niarbeht> ziroday: technically, there's been more than one sound system, it's just relatively transparent because they all co-exist....
[09:52] <humbolt> Jordan_U: no RAM
[09:52] <psycolizard> @niarbeht AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core 6400+ 3.2ghz dont know what you need
[09:52] <niarbeht> K.
[09:53] <Stdht> ziroday so How to choose which device will soundplayer use?
[09:53] <discorpia> i was hoping i could get full resolution, just not fully accelerated without using the fglrx/ati drivers
[09:53] <racecar56> psycolizard, :( you got nice processor
[09:53] <racecar56> psycolizard, i only have an amd sempron 3100+
[09:53] <ziroday> racecar56: well the radeon driver is loaded, what does glxinfo | grep direct return?
[09:53] <Thingymebob> dutch: create a new text file in /usr/share/applications/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop, copy this into it http://paste.ubuntu.com/207983/ chown to root and chgrp to root then chmod +r
[09:53] <psycolizard> i built my comp from the ground up, when i still had a job lol
[09:53] <racecar56> ziroday, direct rendering: Yes
[09:53] <Jordan_U> discorpia: Can you pastebin the output from /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[09:53] <ziroday> racecar56: and glxinfo | grep render
[09:53] <indus> racecar56: i have athlon x2 4400+ :)
[09:54] <discorpia> Jordan_U: with our without the proprietary drivers?
[09:54] <niarbeht> Well, ever poked around in your BIOS before?  Find and turn on the Cool and Quiet option in there and the complaints from the kernel will cease.  That, and you might be able to convince your computer to do dynamic CPU frequency scaling, causing your computer to run cooler when idle, saving power not just in terms of the CPU's power usage, but also in terms of your AC bill :P
[09:54] <Stdht> ziroday I cant test ALSA on HDA intel and at the same time when I play wav file with a pleyer I can use HDA intel ALSA in volume contorl and voulme really changes?
[09:54] <racecar56> ziroday, same thing as before and OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 8x TCL
[09:54] <ziroday> Stdht: I have no idea what you are saying sorry.
[09:54] <Jordan_U> discorpia: without first
[09:54] <racecar56> indus, mine is 1.8 ghz :|
[09:54] <racecar56> indus, old comp=yes
[09:54] <ziroday> racecar56: right, well then the correct driver is loaded and 3D accelerated rendering is working. Not much more I can do sorry.
[09:55] <racecar56> ziroday, kk
[09:55] <niarbeht> psycolizard: that big blurb was for you, btw
[09:55] <Stdht> ziroday, my english needs much to be regarded ... but I'll try once again...:)
[09:55] <psycolizard> honestly i dont know much about computers, this is my first build... i know how to run it not so much program it. any chance u can explain it a bit to me
[09:55] <indus> racecar56: ziroday:ATI has dropped support for older r 200 (and r300) cards in newer releases ,so hardy is the only option for the driver, else use the open source driver
[09:55] <ziroday> Stdht: what's your native language?
[09:55] <indus> not sure about the r 300 though
[09:55] <ziroday> indus: correct...
[09:56] <humbolt> pidstat -d 1 tells me firefox is constantly reading something on the disk
[09:56] <Stdht> ziroday russian
[09:56] <racecar56> indus, thats what i am using
[09:56] <racecar56> indus, open source
[09:56] <indus> ziroday: he seems to have the r 300 and he is using jaunty i presume
[09:56] <racecar56> indus, and i on 9.04 :|
[09:56] <discorpia> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/m2b3e7abe
[09:56] <ziroday> Stdht: then #ubuntu-ru might be helpful too :)
[09:56] <racecar56> indus, yep
[09:56] <ziroday> indus: and?
[09:56] <Stdht> tnks i'll try
[09:56] <racecar56> indus, r350 i think
[09:56] <indus> racecar56: ziroday:oh ok sorry but i missed some of the posts
[09:56] <dAnon> my graphics driver doesn't work, I tried running Enemy Territory, and it just quits the game before even launching
[09:56] <niarbeht> psycolizard: I'm not talking about programming it.  Got the motherboard manual?  Look for a section about entering the BIOS.    Once in there, be careful not to go changing things you don't understand, just find the cool and quiet option and turn it on :P
[09:56] <thummy> Hi Humanas (ubuntus), I was setting up some netboot. When I boot the client, it gets tha IP address but fails to get the image. It says "tftp: client does not accept options" and/or "tftp:file not found". Any one who can figure the problem?
[09:56] <rayno_b> hey there - I'm trying to install Ubuntu within VirtualBox, but the VirtualBox display loads the CD, but the screen is completely blank.  I can see the screen for a brief second when I shut down that VirtualBox.  Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
[09:57] <indus> racecar56: whats the problem? system not using the ati drivers?
[09:57] <racecar56> indus, laggy 3D
[09:57] <ziroday> racecar56: the issue is your graphics card is too old. Disable some of the effects you don't need or disable compiz all together.
[09:57] <vng> where is log file of pidgin? I want to view the log of #ubuntu channel
[09:57] <indus> racecar56: ziroday:open source ATI drivers wont perform like the proprietary ones
[09:57] <ziroday> !logs > vng
[09:57] <racecar56> ziroday, i dont use gnome.......
[09:57] <indus> for 3d at least
[09:57] <psycolizard> if its that simple it should be no problem. my mobo lets me in its bios easily, unlike my old stock computer, eww stock
[09:57] <racecar56> ziroday, i use lxde
[09:57] <ziroday> racecar56: yes but you use compiz?
[09:58] <racecar56> ziroday, no
[09:58] <racecar56> ziroday, i have no desktop fx
[09:58] <dAnon> my graphics driver doesn't work, I tried running Enemy Territory, and it just quits the game before even launching, installed 173 driver, this is terrible
[09:58] <ziroday> racecar56: that what is laggy?
[09:58] <h4f1> Is there a way to set up network usage priority ? EX I use FF and Transmision. Transmision uses all bandwidth so when I go FF I get nothing. I can limit Transmission bandwidth but then when FF is IDLE bandwidth is not used at all.  Lower the settings on the game then.
[09:59] <vng> how about the log on my machine?
[09:59] <racecar56> ziroday, kk
[09:59] <gralco> hi is anyone interested in learning C++ along with me
[09:59] <dAnon> indus 7800GT, it says no opengl subsystem
[09:59] <psycolizard> so if I turn on cool and quiet in there it should solve the ACPI fail?
[09:59] <ninina> I don't know if this is the place to ask this, but I feel like I want to get involved in open source dev. Anyone know a good place to start out or something?
[09:59] <djiezes> h4f1: do you have a router? if so you could try prioritizing network traffic there. set up portforwarding for your torrents should have some effect.
[09:59] <ziroday> vng: its under ~/.purple/logs
[10:00] <indus> dAnon:paste output of glxinfo | grep render
[10:00] <rayno_b> hey there - I'm trying to install Ubuntu within VirtualBox, but the VirtualBox display loads the CD, but the screen is completely blank.  I can see the screen for a brief second when I shut down that VirtualBox.  Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
[10:00] <nsb> names
[10:00] <indus> !paste
[10:00] <racecar56> ziroday, it seems my older Radeon 9200SE is faster hmmm
[10:00] <h4f1> djiezes: yeap I have a modem. but how does it relate to application usage
[10:00] <racecar56> ziroday, i have 2 gfx cards (not at once) and they are both old
[10:00] <vng> ziroday: thank you
[10:00] <racecar56> ziroday, the older 9200SE is faster O_o
[10:00] <koshari> how do i set firefox 3.5 as default browser so links open in 3.5 instead of 3.1?
[10:00] <ziroday> racecar56: not much that I can do sorry
[10:00] <racecar56> ziroday, k
[10:01] <discorpia> Jordan_U: when i enter display settings it says Samsung 17" as monitor name, where does it get that from? why is xorg.conf basically empty?
[10:01] <ziroday> koshari: System > Preferences > Preffered Applications
[10:01] <djiezes> h4f1: torrents use a different port than normal browsing. if you set  up portforwarding for your torrents, it helps ... really, check http://portforward.com/ for how to do so.
[10:01] <lesshaste> what's the ubuntu equivalent of  apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>
[10:01] <discorpia> i don't even recognize linux anymore when i'm fiddling with ubuntu and xorg
[10:01] <racecar56> discorpia, i have mine saying acer 22"
[10:01] <racecar56> discorpia, i also wonder how it knows...
[10:01] <ziroday> racecar56: some of the options in http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI#Performance_tuning might be able to help, but be very careful with what you do and only change xorg.org settings
[10:02] <discorpia> racecar56: mine doesn't know per se, since it's dead wrong, but it assumes, and that annoys me when it doesn't tell me how to affect that assumption :D
[10:02] <jeniffer> friends why hard disk temperature under linux is higher than in windows???? is is something to reduce it (except power off the laptop)????
[10:02] <koshari> ziroday cheers
[10:02] <dAnon> indus it spams Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[10:02] <AndorinKato> Hey, guys, I have a question... I'm trying to install a plugin for Pidgin, and I'm very new to compiling... the README tells me to run the configure script, but when I paste in the command it tells me I need to specify where Pidgin is installed to... but a search through my system for pidgin gives a LOT of results. How do I tell where Pidgin is installed? It came installed by default with Jaunty...
[10:02] <indus> dAnon: the driver is not installed
[10:02] <koshari> ziroday there was no option so i edited the custom line to add -3.5
[10:02] <h4f1> djiezes: yeap. sound kind of solution. but I have to do that for all applications now :( not nice. I would prefer to apply something like cpulimit and nice to a process. but in network sense
[10:03] <dAnon> indus but I installed it, so who's fault is this?
[10:03] <ziroday> koshari: Web browser > Custom
[10:03] <indus> dAnon: how did you install the nvidia driver? did you do it from system>administration>hardware drivers?
[10:03] <dAnon> say indus yes
[10:03] <djiezes> h4f1: you don't, you only need to configure your torrent application/port. It'll solve other network issues. torrent is quite heavy on network traffice & congests your router.
[10:03] <psycolizard> @niar well im gonna go try that, if i cant get it ill be back on here, if it works than tyvvm
[10:03] <indus> dAnon: open hardware drivers and tell me what it says
[10:03] <koshari> AndorinKato cant you use the gui tools > plugins?
[10:04] <rayno_b> when I start "startx", my screen does not seem to like the resolution and goes off until I ctrl+C the startx session.  How do I set the resolution a bit lower?
[10:04] <AndorinKato> koshari: That's only for configuring them, not installing them... the plugin came as a .tar
[10:04] <koshari> AndorinKato ok, i guess you will need to firuge out where the plugins reside
[10:05] <dAnon> indus 173.14.16
[10:05] <halberd> my inspiron 15n laptop came with 8.10 preinstalled, which I just upgraded to 9.04... now suspend no longer works
[10:05] <halberd> anybody know a fix?
[10:05] <h4f1> djiezes: the problem is that I said FF and Torrent as example. Some time I am running very bandwidth hungry application
[10:05] <Jordan_U> h4f1: Try trickle
[10:05] <mcfarlane> When I do tail /var/log/messeges, what does the -- MARK -- processes mean?
[10:05] <zugu> hello all
[10:05] <AndorinKato> koshari: And how do I do that?
[10:05] <indus> dAnon: does it say the driver is currently in use?
[10:05] <h4f1>  Jordan_U: thanks
[10:05] <koshari> AndorinKato can you find or locate the name of an existing plugin?
[10:05] <u_dparte> halberd, version upgrades are not that consistent ... your better off doing a clean install if you can
[10:05] <Jordan_U> h4f1: np
[10:06] <dAnon> indus where do I figure this out?
[10:06] <AndorinKato> koshari: That would be a good place to start, I guess ;)
[10:06] <zugu> can someone explain me why all the good stuff on getdeb.net is not present in Ubuntu's repositories?
[10:06] <Lord-Readman> I need to unjail my user account when I login in stuck in my home folder, and I wish to browse to my /var/www/
[10:06] <u_dparte> zugu, because much of it is not officially supported
[10:06] <indus> dAnon: at the bottom , it will say this driver is currently in use along with a button on the right to enable or disable
[10:07] <zugu> u_dparte: I'm afraid I don't understand; why isn't it officially supported? Are the packages on getdeb not safe?
[10:07] <u_dparte> zugu, not necessarily ... just means they might cause problems with your system
[10:07] <dAnon> 173
[10:07] <dAnon> I click it
[10:07] <dAnon> indus and it says it's enabled and in use
[10:08] <indus> dAnon: did you just install nvidia driver?
[10:08] <zugu> u_dparte: then why does everyone point me to getdeb when I ask where I can find more recent software?
[10:08] <u_dparte> zugu, before you install anything though you should research it and find out any known issues
[10:08] <lesshaste> well I tried to restore debconf and not something has gone wrong when trying to install the kernels?  See http://pastebin.ca/1481697
[10:08] <dAnon> indus and it says it's enabled and in use, I installed it from here
[10:08] <indus> dAnon: open synaptic,search for nvidia-glx-173 or something and install if from there
[10:08] <Jordan_U> discorpia: The xorg.conf is mostly empty because Xorg can auto detect pretty much everything that the Xorg.conf generating scripts could. You can still add to the xorg.conf and it will honor the settings
[10:08] <AndorinKato> koshari: Not getting a lot of luck here; so far out of the several I've searched for, only one gave results and I got 25 hits
[10:09] <h4f1> Jordan_U: trickle is goo. I need something like that per process . like cpulimit
[10:09] <lesshaste> help! :)
[10:10] <zugu> I mean, it's not right; some packages in Ubuntu's repositories are out of date, why are they not updated like the ones on getdeb?
[10:10] <dAnon> indus why isn't it working in the first place?
[10:10] <Lord-Readman> anyone know howto unjail a user account when so when i FTP I can browse to my /var/www/
[10:10] <dAnon> indus I've got them marked as installed
[10:10] <Flannel> zugu: Packages are mostly frozen a few months before release, after that they just get updates for bugs and security fixes.
[10:10] <indus> dAnon: i dont know, i had the same problem and i finally installed from synaptic
[10:10] <u_dparte> zugu, its not uncommon to have additional repos.. i use them all the time, but there is way to much software out there to test each pack to ensure its completely safe to install
[10:10] <indus> dAnon: just reinstall it
[10:11] <dAnon> indus reinstalling as we speak
[10:11] <indus> dAnon:good and dont forget to restart
[10:11] <moncky> Lord-Readman: you could create a group and add the user to that group and give the group access to /var/www, or add the user to the apache group
[10:11] <u_dparte> zugu, ubuntu tests common packages that a majority of there users will need and leaves the rest up to you and I
[10:11] <halberd> how would I diagnose a failure with suspend?  when I ask if pm-is-supported --suspend it tells me yes
[10:11] <Flannel> zugu: The reason for the freeze is to ensure everything works correctly together.  If you're not satisfied with this approach, you might be more interested in a rolling release like debian testing.
[10:11] <dAnon> indus reinstalling, rebooting
[10:11] <halberd> but when I try pm-suspend it does nothing
[10:11] <halberd> the command exits with no action
[10:11] <AndorinKato> Ok, grr, this isn't working...
[10:12] <indus> whats a rolling release
[10:12] <AndorinKato> Can someone who has experience with compiling PM me? I'm having trouble with what is probably a basic concept...
[10:12] <zugu> Flannel: curious, I never knew this; so basically people are stuck with older software? On Windows I can install whatever version of some specific software I want, straight from the developer's website; why is this so difficult with Ubuntu? Or am I missing something? Sorry, I'm a noob
[10:12] <Flannel> indus: New package version are put into the same release more or less when they become stable, as opposed to only updating those things eery six months
[10:13] <indus> Flannel: which do you prefer and why
[10:13] <u_dparte> zugu, it's not difficult just not supported ... windows doesn't support other developers software either
[10:13] <h4f1> cpulimit - limit the cpu usage of a process (expressed in percentage, not in cpu time). I need same think for Network Bandwidth
[10:13] <Stdht> ziroday: as i thought in russian channel - no help at all
[10:13] <Flannel> zugu: There's nothing wrong with "old" software.  Its only a few months old generally.  Yes, you can install software straight from the developers website on Ubuntu, its just "as easy" as on Windows, but you then have to keep track of updates/etc yourself.
[10:13] <zugu> u_dparte: yes, but the developer supports the software directly, on Ubuntu I am fosced to depend on the repositories
[10:14] <Stdht> ziroday: so may I ask you once again?
[10:14] <Jordan_U> zugu: Ubuntu has descrete releases and to keep things stable and predictable they only release updates for bugs and security fixes. There are other distros called "rolling" distros that always have the latest of everything and never have releases, you just constantly upgrade bit by bit.
[10:14] <u_dparte> zugu, no you have several options for installing software
[10:14] <u_dparte> you can compile from source
[10:14] <Flannel> zugu: Package management is a really nice feature, because it keeps you up to date, and means that software plays well with each other, etc.
[10:14] <AndorinKato> Can someone who has experience with compiling PM me? I'm having trouble with what is probably a basic concept...
[10:14] <u_dparte> you can install rpms, debs etc..
[10:14] <Flannel> !compile > AndorinKato
[10:14] <indus> Flannel: ubuntu talks about stability and hence a 6 month cycle, then why have an LTS i wonder
[10:15] <dAnon> indus this is hopeless, still same thing
[10:15] <u_dparte> indus, its for people who install servers that can't be upgraded every 6 months
[10:15] <Flannel> indus: Because you get even more stability with a two year cycle.  Also (the bigger reason) some people don't like upgrading every six months.  A two year cycle suits their needs much better.
[10:15] <u_dparte> indus, I have a server still runing 7.10
[10:15] <Flannel> u_dparte: That's unsupported.
[10:15] <psycolizard> sigh, im back. cool and quiet got rid of the ACPI error, but it gave me the same screen, a black dos like screen that talks about ubuntu and its software... what do i do?
[10:15] <zugu> Flannel: there are a lot of things wrong with old software; look at pidgin: the latest version in Jaunty is 2.5.5 and I really need 2.5.8 because 2.5.5 cannot connect to Yahoo! anymore; Ubuntu won't update the pidgin in its repositories and getdeb is not officially supported; on Windows I can install 2.5.8 right away from www.pidgin.im
[10:16] <indus> dAnon: can i see your xorg.conf file paste output of cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:16] <koshari> AndorinKato look in the .purple dirs, pidgin used to be called gaim remember and i think they changes the dir names to purple
[10:16] <u_dparte> zugu, then why not ask how to install the latest and greatest here?
[10:16] <h4f1> cpulimit - limit the cpu usage of a process (expressed in percentage, not in cpu time). I need same think for Network Bandwidth  any one :(
[10:16] <halberd> how could I try to diagnose a problem with pm-suspend?
[10:16] <zugu> u_dparte: I need the latest and greatest, but I do not want to install unsupported software
[10:17] <Flannel> zugu: In the past there have been updates to fix protocols (since those are bugfixes), I'm not sure what the timeframe for that is though.
[10:17] <indus> what other distro would people here recommend similar to ubuntu
[10:17] <Flannel> zugu: You can still install pidgin right away, it just wouldn't be via package management
[10:17] <Jordan_U> u_dparte: You should really upgrade to 8.04, for security updates if nothing else. You can stay with 8.04 for a long time since it's LTS
[10:17] <Flannel> indus: Try debian testing if you're looking for a rolling release.
[10:17] <lesshaste> well I tried to restore debconf and not something has gone wrong when trying to install the kernels?  See http://pastebin.ca/1481697
[10:17] <u_dparte> zugu, that's what we're here for buddy
[10:17] <lesshaste> any idea what to do about it?
[10:17] <zugu> Flannel: the person who introduced me to Ubuntu said I should only install software from the official repositories
[10:17] <indus> Flannel: i somehow dont feel at home with debian :) too geeky
[10:18] <Flannel> zugu: I agree with them.
[10:18] <u_dparte> yes, I would but I'll probably end up smashing it with a sledgehammer before I upgrade
[10:18] <rayno_b> Hi I need some assistance with xorg - If I run startx my screen goes into sleep mode.  Any suggestions?
[10:18] <Flannel> indus: You... know that Ubuntu is based on debian, right? (and for some values of 'is' basically, is debian?)
[10:18] <indus> Flannel: anyways ill discuss it off topic with you people later
[10:18] <zugu> Flannel: then why is it so hard to find an officially supported pidgin 2.5.8 on ubuntu?
[10:18] <indus> Flannel: yes i know that.but somehow ubuntu seems more down to earth
[10:19] <AndorinKato> koshari: Still doesn't help... :(
[10:19] <Flannel> zugu: 2.5.8 won't ever be in Jaunty, the version number won't change from 2.5.5, but it'll have the patch for yahoo introduced into it.  Like I said, I'm not sure about the timeline for this.  Have you checked launchpad for a bug report?  That might have more information on the current status
[10:19] <thummy> I was setting up netboot. When I boot the client, it gets an IP address from the server but it fails to get the boot image. The sysylog message on server says "tftpd[11658]: tftp: client does not accept options". But the client says "tftp error: file not found". Anyone who can help?
[10:19] <u_dparte> Jordan_U, new server from prgmr is running centos5.2 ... can't wait to move everything to a stable box
[10:20] <koshari> AndorinKato urs/lib/purple-2/plugins.so
[10:20] <zugu> Flannel: there's a bug report on Launchpad, but it concerns the next Ubuntu release
[10:20] <dAnon> indus http://www.sendspace.com/file/bzqcuo this is what I've got in my xorg.conf
[10:20] <koshari> AndorinKato sorry /usr/lib.................
[10:20] <rayno_b> Hi I need some assistance with xorg - If I run startx my screen goes into sleep mode.  Any suggestions?
[10:21] <zugu> Flannel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/393736
[10:21] <u_dparte> zugu, many times installing a current release is a good thing
[10:21] <psycolizard> i still cant get my computer to install ubuntu. it starts, gives me language select, gives me menu of "install" "demo" etc, if i hit either one it takes me to black screen with info about ubuntu and its software and has a doslike prompt... can someone help me?
[10:21] <thummy> I was setting up netboot. When I boot the client, it gets an IP address from the server but it fails to get the boot image. The sysylog message on server says "tftpd[11658]: tftp: client does not accept options". But the client says "tftp error: file not found". My server is Ubuntu 9.04 Anyone who can help?
[10:21] <indus> dAnon: please use paste, sendspace is banned here
[10:21] <raevol> can anyone help me figure out why totem is stretching the movies i watch, so the aspect is wrong
[10:21] <u_dparte> zugu, ex. I was having issues w/ my source control being corrupted ... come to find out by building the latest from source everything was all better
[10:22] <u_dparte> zugu, the latest from the repos was out of date by like a bunch of versions
[10:22] <Flannel> zugu: right, that wouldn't be the same thing.  What you should do is file a bug about yahoo in jaunty not working (and ask for them to patch the yahoo version)
[10:22] <zugu> u_dparte: I don't like to compile things
[10:22] <AndorinKato> koshari: Thank you, but still getting the same error when trying to configure... I just don't know jack about compiling.
[10:22] <indus> zugu: Flannel:well its a known bug and tehy are working on it i believe
[10:22] <u_dparte> zugu, compiling is fun - it's like a birthday present except you don't know if your getting a bag of crap or a block of gold
[10:22] <Flannel> indus: Do you have a bug report?
[10:23] <Flannel> u_dparte: Please don't recommend that in this channel.
[10:23] <indus> Flannel: wait let me check on pidgin site
[10:23] <indus> there is i believe. its a famous bug now
[10:24] <Flannel> indus: pidgin bugs don't count.  We need Ubuntu bugs, since this is an ubuntu issue.
[10:24] <zugu> Flannel: I give up; it's easy on Windows, it should be just as easy on Ubuntu
[10:24] <Flannel> zugu: It is easy.  But package management doesn't work that way.  If you go outside of package management, it's just as trivial.
[10:24] <indus> Flannel: hmm i mean,,,, pidgin cant connect to yahoo and the pidgin devs are aware and workin on it, its also an ubuntu bug ?
[10:25] <edgarmattern1> Hi, can someone help me, since a kernelupdate (I think it was one) my system does'n start enymore.
[10:25] <zugu> Flannel: yes, but I won't ever go outside the package management
[10:25] <Flannel> indus: There needs to be a bug reported in launchpad (against Ubuntus pidgin), because the fix for yahoo (which is in 2.5.8) needs to be put into 2.5.5
[10:25] <u_dparte> edgarmattern1, how so?
[10:25] <u_dparte> does it go into grub?
[10:26] <digitaltao> hah, has any one ever done the alt+f2 free the fish command (if you run gnome)
[10:26] <indus> Flannel: http://tinyurl.com/pidgin-yahoo
[10:26] <edgarmattern1> yas, the loadingscreen is there and the caps lock and the scrool lock aer blinking.
[10:26] <zugu> thank you guys for trying to help, but I find all this to be too unnecessarily complicated
[10:26] <Flannel> zugu: You're holding your OSes to a double standard.  But sure, if you won't go outside of package management, file a bug about it.  There isn't currently one.
[10:26] <edgarmattern1> yes...
[10:26] <Flannel> zugu: Or, switch to debian testing, which is a rolling release where they don't freeze versions, so you're constantly being updated.
[10:27] <indus> zugu: http://tinyurl.com/pidgin-yahoo
[10:27] <u_dparte> when you boot up hit alt+f2 and it will show you all the things going on behind the scenes ... see if you can pinpoint where it is going wrong based on the text output
[10:27] <rayno_b> Hi I need some assistance with xorg - If I run startx my screen goes into sleep mode.  Any suggestions?
[10:27] <zugu> I'll go back to XP, since lack of Yahoo connectivity is a showstopper for me; it's not a Pidgin problem, they fixed it; it's an Ubuntu issue
[10:27] <bart416> rayno_b: tried generating a new configuration file already?
[10:27] <edgarmattern1> kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt.
[10:27] <Flannel> zugu: Bye
[10:28] <zugu> bye all
[10:28] <edgarmattern1> bye
[10:28] <bart416> anybody here any good at grub?
[10:28] <indus> aah wait
[10:28] <AndorinKato> Okay, guys, I would really like someone to help me install a plugin for Pidgin... my issue is that when configuring I don't know where to point the installation to...
[10:28] <indus> nooo
[10:28] <bart416> it somehow seems to dislike the idea of booting an OS on a disk marked as slave instead of master >_>
[10:28] <moncky> AndorinKato: is it asking for where the binary is?
[10:28] <Flannel> indus: Again, that's not a launchpad bug report, Ubuntu's pidgin people need to be told about it, and I don't believe they have been.
[10:29] <AndorinKato> moncky: The binary of Pidgin?
[10:29] <koshari> bart416: whats ya prob
[10:29] <moncky> AndorinKato: yeah where is it asking you to point to
[10:29] <psycolizard> i still cant get my computer to install ubuntu. it starts, gives me language select, gives me menu of "install" "demo" etc, if i hit either one it takes me to black screen with info about ubuntu and its software and has a doslike prompt... can someone help me?
[10:29] <bart416> well, my HD with my operating systems is in IDE Channel 1 but it's slave, not master
[10:29] <AndorinKato> moncky: Um.. I don't know... it tells me that it doesn't find the packages 'pidgin' or 'purple'
[10:29] <thummy> I was setting up netboot. When I boot the client, it gets an IP address from the server but it fails to get the boot image. The sysylog message on server says "tftpd[11658]: tftp: client does not accept options". But the client says "tftp error: file not found". My server is Ubuntu 9.04 Anyone who can help?
[10:29] <bart416> changing the jumper would take several hours cause of the way the hardware is fitted in the case
[10:29] <bart416> so that's not really an option
[10:30] <rayno_b> Bart, do you mind if I pvt you?
[10:30] <bart416> the HD has both win xp and kubuntu on it (I'm happy I didn't try debian)
[10:30] <bart416> now if I boot it'll load grub
[10:30] <indus> Flannel: it was a popular problem or bug, and if you telling me that the devs will only fix a problem if you file a launchpad  report, thats really arrogant, but i dont believe thats how they work.
[10:30] <bart416> the side issue being that it gives error 22
[10:30] <u_dparte> psycolizard, at the first menu after the language try hitting f4 and selecting the safe graphics mode
[10:30] <koshari> bart416: it wont care if its master or slave, its the dev that it cares about, and you may need to install the grub onto the mbr if you have changes drives
[10:30] <moncky> AndorinKato: purple is a library for pidgin, pidgin is installed to /usr/bin in my system
[10:31] <u_dparte> psycolizard, if it's not that, you might have a bad disk ... did you check the disk for errors?
[10:31] <bart416> well, the fact that it loads means it's in the mbr koshari
[10:31] <indus> Flannel: but anyway ill file one if thats what it will take
[10:31] <halberd> hey is it possible to revert my kernel to an older version?
[10:31] <Flannel> indus: You're saying that the people in charge of packaging pidgin need to be omniscient?
[10:31] <qe2eqe> indus, =(
[10:31] <bart416> cause if it was booting directly from the slave it'd load xp
[10:31] <bart416> it wrote the mbr on one of the sata disks
[10:31] <u_dparte> halberd, when you but up you can select which kernel
[10:31] <psycolizard> ill go check that, i guess brb, whether it works or not
[10:31] <indus> qe2eqe: yes?
[10:32] <koshari> bart416 it looks like the grub mbr is pointing to the wrong drive then
[10:32] <AndorinKato> moncky: Here are the brief install instructions and the error I get when I attempt to follow them: http://pastebin.com/d7cb15c9 I just suck at compiling and have no idea what to do with the 'configure' step
[10:32] <dAnon> indus Section "Device"
[10:32] <dAnon> 	Identifier     "Device0"
[10:32] <dAnon> 	VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
[10:32] <bart416> koshari: I wouldn't know
[10:32] <dAnon> BoardName      "GeForce 7800 GT"
[10:32] <dAnon> 	Driver	"nvidia"
[10:33] <indus> dAnon: well it looks fine
[10:33] <koshari> bart416 so what did you change for it not to work anymore?
[10:33] <koshari> bart416 or have you not had it working yet?
[10:33] <bart416> I didn't have it working yet
[10:33] <bart416> just reinstalled my operating systems
[10:34] <Myrtti> dAnon: please use pastebin for those!
[10:34] <koshari> bart416 ok pastebin the output of fdisk -l, menu.1st and devices.list
[10:34] <dAnon> indus use what?
[10:34] <venomen> Looo!  Be my Pupil and get one GUERANTEED at Level4 experience at the game: http://lecktsmiamorsch.mybrute.com/ get my Pupil!
[10:34] <geirha> !pastebin | dAnon
[10:34] <indus> Flannel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/389322
[10:35] <indus> Flannel: who told you the devs havent been notified yet
[10:35] <dAnon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/208003/plain/
[10:35] <dAnon> like this
[10:35] <dAnon> ?
[10:35] <indus> yeah'
[10:36] <Flannel> indus: Apparently it's been fixed in Jaunty already.  Wonder what zugu's issue was then.
[10:36] <bart416> koshari: well there's another issue
[10:36] <bart416> getting fdisk to run
[10:36] <indus> Flannel: yeah sorry about thta
[10:36] <Flannel> indus: No worries
[10:36] <koshari> bart416: use sudo
[10:36] <andruk> why is the number pad on Gnome Sudoku upside down from a normal number pad?
[10:36] <indus> Flannel: yes it seems fixed but you know yesterday i couldnt connect
[10:36] <bart416> koshari: oh yes I tried that
[10:37] <indus> Flannel: maybe fix was released today? does it say when they released the fix?
[10:37] <bart416> gimme a minute, going to try something else to get it working
[10:37] <koshari> bart416 you tried "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[10:37] <indus> Flannel: 2 hours ago it seems :)
[10:37] <AndorinKato> Can somebody please help? <-- Trying to install a plugin for Pidgin, those are the instructions and error; I have no idea how to resolve the error, please help?
[10:37] <indus> damn
[10:37] <bart416> yeah, it's not working cause I chrooted earlier :P
[10:37] <AndorinKato> Dammit, forgot link! ^^;
[10:37] <Myrtti> AndorinKato: which plugin?
[10:38] <koshari> why dont you boot from the live disc, you need to be ther to run grub anyway
[10:38] <gangil> is there a way to get the temperatures in Ggkrellm on the task bar
[10:38] <AndorinKato> Myrtti: Guifications, also: http://pastebin.com/d7cb15c9
[10:38] <AndorinKato> The link that should have been in that message. :P
[10:38] <gangil> as the applet takes a lot of screen space....
[10:38] <Myrtti> AndorinKato: and why can't you use the ready packaged plugin from the package management?
[10:38] <gangil> s/Ggkrellm/gkrellm
[10:38] <indus> Flannel: btw, i have an interesting bit, many users make the mistake of using full yahoo id instead of just username , and they cant connect . Yahoo only needs the part before the @
[10:39] <Flannel> indus: it may not be on all the servers yet, you're looking for 2.5.5-1ubuntu8.2, it'll be rolling out to a mirror near you sometime within the next few days, it just needs to be verified that it's safe
[10:39] <AndorinKato> Myrtti: Because I'm a Linux noob who forgets about this sort of thing? :D
[10:39] <indus> Flannel: hmm iam at work ,not sure what version is at in jaunty
[10:39] <gangil> ?
[10:39] <bart416> http://bart416.pastebin.com/m5a22dd87
[10:40] <Myrtti> !info pidgin-guifications| AndorinKato
[10:40] <AndorinKato> Myrtti: Thank you.
[10:40] <Flannel> indus: 8.1, it's in the queue to be rolled out, but still needs a smidge of verification first before the general public sees it
[10:40] <dAnon> indus any idea yet?
[10:40] <Myrtti> !info pidgin-guifications | AndorinKato
[10:40] <AndorinKato> Myrtti: Yeah, thank you, I did find it in the package manager.
[10:40] <nikor> Hi - Running Ibex on this box - just finished loading the new AMD 64bit Jaunty on another new box - I did not write down my user name and can't remember what it was - on the Ibex box here it always shows my desktop login name - Is there away I can figure out what name I used on the newer Jaunty box ? ?
[10:40] <indus> dAnon: hi wait 1 min
[10:40] <psycolizard> well, im back... checked disk, no errors, ran safe graphics mode, gave same screen "the software included on ubuntu is free...etc" why wont this work :/
[10:41] <indus> dAnon: not sure how to solve this
[10:41] <indus> dAnon: xorg looks fine, so iam trying to think why it wont use the nvidia driver
[10:41] <fivetwentysix> So what's the preferred method of installing the new firefox 3.5
[10:41] <indus> dAnon: do this again ... glxinfo | grep render
[10:41] <fivetwentysix> since it's not in the repo's yet.
[10:41] <nikor> Is there a way to find out your login name if it's not showing ?
[10:42] <indus> !ff3.5
[10:42] <u_dparte> psycolizard, you did select install ubuntu now correct .. not trying to be patronizing
[10:42] <Flannel> fivetwentysix: Wait for it to be packaged.  It'll be updated from RC2 to final soon.
[10:42] <edgarmattern> u_dparte: Kernel Panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt.
[10:42] <indus> Flannel: but my version in jaunty says b4?
[10:42] <psycolizard> yes
[10:42] <indus> Flannel: ff i mean
[10:42] <Flannel> indus: Eh, might be beta, whatever.  It'll be updated soon.
[10:43] <fivetwentysix> indus: Even worse, it's shiretoko! And firebug wont install on it.
[10:43] <dAnon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/208004/plain/
[10:43] <dAnon> indus http://paste.ubuntu.com/208004/plain/
[10:43] <indus> fivetwentysix: that version has a lot of bugs
[10:44] <u_dparte> edgarmattern, this might not be preferable for you but if that was my box I'd nuke it and reinstall
[10:44] <fivetwentysix> what's wrong with make installing from source ?
[10:44] <u_dparte> sounds like you've got some corrupt blocks on your HD
[10:44] <indus> dAnon: do you have an integrated card also? please disable it in the bios or set pci express as primary display adapter
[10:44] <Cynner> New web browser based game, check it - http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139730844
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[10:44] <gangil> Which utility can display the GPU and motherboard temp. on the task bar , I am using gkrellm but it takes a lot of screen space , can I just see the temp. on the task bar????
[10:44] <qe2eqe> To do etherwake well, I need to sudo. How do I write a script with the privilege that etherwake will need?
[10:45] <psycolizard> i dont understand it, it installed just fine on the other computer. why wont it work on the better one -.-
[10:45] <halberd> xclip stopped working, it seems
[10:45] <halberd> with the upgrade to 9.04
[10:45] <u_dparte> hey psycolizard ... i had something similiar happen to me several months back ... not quite the same
[10:45] <dAnon> indus I do not have any integrated gpu
[10:45] <u_dparte> but I couldn't run an install
[10:45] <halberd> I do xclip -sel -clip <filename> and then I do a middle click but it doesn't paste the contents of the file
[10:45] <halberd> it used to work
[10:45] <djiezes> gangil: the hardware-sensors applet (gnome, right?)
[10:46] <indus> !nvidia
[10:46] <u_dparte> turned out .. for some reason my bios had a floppy drive enabled which I didn't have one ... that was causing the ubuntu install to crash
[10:46] <gangil> djiezes: yes  , it's gkrellm
[10:46] <dAnon> oh wait
[10:46] <psycolizard> -.- the ghost floppy drive doesnt like ubuntu?
[10:46] <GaZZ--> !firefox
[10:46] <indus> dAnon: which version of ubuntu are you using
[10:47] <dAnon> 904
[10:47] <edgarmattern> u_dparte: what can i do?
[10:47] <indus> dAnon: use the 180 driver
[10:47] <GaZZ--> !firefox-3.5
[10:47] <djiezes> gangil: well, the hardware-sensors applet does the trick, but you'll need to have the sensors package installed & configured too.
[10:47] <dAnon> indus I'll try it for once more
[10:48] <gangil> djiezes: are you referring to lm - sensors?
[10:48] <u_dparte> edgarmattern, that's beyond me without pysically being at the computer or being able to pull the hd ... you can boot up into safe mode and check your file system, but I don't know if that would work tbo
[10:48] <djiezes> gangil: alternatively, you could use conky to display those temps (also via the sensors package) on your desktop, but that'll take some configuring & tweaking
[10:48] <djiezes> gangil: yes
[10:48] <indus> dAnon:try this step   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:48] <ubuntu> how can j install .img to run moblin2, it's not iso, and it, does not burn.
[10:48] <qe2eqe> !privileges
[10:49] <ubuntu> j tried to burn .img like an iso
[10:49] <jorisslob> Can somebody help me with troubleshooting Apache2 - Tomcat connection?
[10:49] <edgarmattern> u_dparte: after check file system nothing happend...
[10:49] <edgarmattern> u_dparte: thx...
[10:49] <u_dparte> edgarmattern, sorry don't know what to tell you ... maybe there's someone else around w/ more experience w/ things like this
[10:50] <qe2eqe> edgarmattern, it sounds like a hardware problem to me.
[10:50] <edgarmattern> is there a possiblity to restrore the old kernel?
[10:51] <edgarmattern> oh, ok.
[10:51] <hemanth> on ubuntu 9.04 with USB webcam , test video is showing horizontal lines, image not clear
[10:52] <psycolizard> anyone else have suggestions for why it wont install. it wont even run the demo from the disk...
[10:52] <hemanth> lsusb showed OmniVision Technologies, Inc. OV519 WebCam
[10:52] <qe2eqe> edgarmattern, did this happen out of the blue?
[10:52] <edgarmattern> after kernel update (the system updated it today)
[10:53] <u_dparte> edgarmattern, can you select a prev. kernel from grub?
[10:53] <edgarmattern> this is the prev.kernel i'm chatting with :)
[10:53] <gangil> djiezes: I was taking of real -time temp. the lm - sensors give me that only when i type sensors in the terminal , I mean that temp. must be shown on my task bar  , and must be real-time , much like CPU scaling...
[10:54] <u_dparte> hah  ... ici
[10:54] <djiezes> gangil: exactly, the hardware-sensors applet does that, but depends on the lm-sensors package ...
[10:54] <henux> we have a server machine with HP UPS, do you know if i can use the apcuspd / uspd found from the Ubuntu repos with that?
[10:54] <qe2eqe> edgarmattern, oh. Well it'd be nice if you filed a bug report for something that supermajorserious. My advice would be to look into blocking the package, or changing grub's conf file
[10:54] <djiezes> gangil: you can configure it to refresh every x seconds or so, so that's pretty much realtime
[10:55] <u_dparte> edgarmattern, just did a googley search and it looks like your not the only one experiencing this
[10:55] <BuGo_laptop> hi
[10:55] <edgarmattern> or what habe you searched?
[10:55] <edgarmattern> for what...
[10:55] <edgarmattern> have
[10:55] <psycolizard> ok, what are the differences between ubuntu x86 and x64, because if theres no preformance/appearance differences than ill just try x86
[10:55] <BuGo_laptop> how can i disable firefox auto updates for all users and all sessions
[10:55] <u_dparte> edgarmattern, kernel panic not syncing ubuntu
[10:55] <u_dparte> 2nd one down is from the ubuntu forums
[10:56] <gangil> djiezes: do you refer to *sensord* package in the synaptic ,  as the hardware-sensors template
[10:56] <u_dparte> psycolizard, do you have a 64bit processor?
[10:56] <psycolizard> yes, im even running vista ultimate 64 as we speak
[10:56] <djiezes> gangil: no, in synaptic it's called sensors-applet
[10:57] <quixotiC-> can i make a comment on the ubuntu website here?
[10:57] <quixotiC-> a bug, sort of
[10:57] <u_dparte> psycolizard, you'd probably be better off w/ x86
[10:57] <u_dparte> x64 can be very difficult to get working if your not real comfortable w/ linux already
[10:58] <u_dparte> though it has improved
[10:58] <psycolizard> what is the difference, ive always wondered
[10:58] <djiezes> psycolizard: biggest reason to switch to x64 is if you have 4gb ram or more
[10:58] <quixotiC-> so this is not the place for bug reports on the website? :P
[10:58] <psycolizard> i do have 4gb
[10:59] <qe2eqe> quixotiC-, =/ wish I knew. I doubt the webdevs scan irc logs
[10:59] <djiezes> psycolizard: then it'd make sense to go for x64, but you might run into some issues with flash for example, or adobe air, be ready to do some tweaking.
[10:59] <u_dparte> psycolizard, many of the applications compiled for x64 take advantage of the multi-threading capabilities that your process was built for
[10:59] <quixotiC-> ok understood, thanks :)
[10:59] <psycolizard> so x64 is what i want/need, but its not wanting to work :/
[10:59] <u_dparte> problem is there are still packages out there that haven't been compiled for 64 bit architecture
[11:00] <psycolizard> if i do x86, and that works, what will the issues be with my ram?
[11:00] <djiezes> psycolizard: it'll work, but some things won't 'out of the box', I run jaunty 64bit & had to fix some flash issues and also some adobe air apps don't work.
[11:00] <u_dparte> how much ram do you have?
[11:00] <psycolizard> 4 even, 2 and 2
[11:01] <u_dparte> that's the same as me .. I run x86 and it reads all of mine
[11:01] <quixotiC-> linux 32 bit does have support for more then 3 gigs of ram
[11:01] <psycolizard> ok, because i know vista has that problem if its not x64, hence me running vista 64
[11:01] <u_dparte> psycolizard, tbo you won't noticed a difference running x64 unless your doing something really processor intensive like folding or something like that
[11:02] <indus> u_dparte: or video editing
[11:02] <psycolizard> alright, ill see if its just not wanting to take because its linux 64, ill try 32 and i it dont work then I guess its my mobo or something
[11:02] <u_dparte> indus, no offense to linux but i'll leave my video editing to mac... for the time being
[11:03] <indus> u_dparte: or windows :P
[11:03] <quixotiC-> mac = linux, no offence taken :P
[11:03] <u_dparte> quixotiC-, true
[11:03] <psycolizard> alright, well i suppose ill be right back, ill let u know if x32 works
[11:03] <indus> !off-topic
[11:03] <indus> :D
[11:03] <u_dparte> psycolizard, good luck
[11:04] <qe2eqe> u_dparte, no. Mac = Darwin. Linux = Linux.
[11:04] <gangil> !darwin
[11:05] <u_dparte> qe2eqe, wasn't mac orig based on bsd?
[11:06] <dvs-> i dont know if im in the right place now, but im desperate after some help with my Dell xps m1330 and Ubuntu 9.04, im really struggeling with the Nvidia GeForce 8400M GS getting overheated, even with the 173 driver
[11:06] <u_dparte> dvs-, the nvidia drivers are up to v. 185 now ..
[11:06] <dvs-> yes, but then its even worse
[11:06] <u_dparte> not sure if that has anything to do w/ your heat issues
[11:06] <thefeds> What happens if I create 3 partitions and make them use the same mount point /?
[11:06] <qe2eqe> u_dparte, which is a microkernel. =) Linux's kernel is monolithic? but they're both modeled after unix so, they feel the same.
[11:06] <thefeds> 3 separate hard disks
[11:06] <thefeds> 3 partitions
[11:07] <thefeds> all mounted with mount point /
[11:07] <thefeds> will that confuse ubuntu?
[11:07] <u_dparte> qe2eqe, thanks
[11:07] <thefeds> Will they be working?
[11:07] <dvs-> u_dparte, i tried to install 185 driver, but then i got some troubles with the X config, and had to reinstall ubuntu
[11:07] <qe2eqe> thefeds, that doesn't even sound legal. I know if you try that on the fly it won't let you
[11:08] <thefeds> So you can't have 2 partitions with the same mount point?
[11:08] <u_dparte> dvs - yikes .. did you follow this guide?:  http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=99513
[11:08] <thefeds> can you just have a partition without a mount point?
[11:08] <thefeds> What do I do?
[11:08] <u_dparte> I just used it earlier and it worked great
[11:08] <mcfarlane> When I do tail /var/log/messeges, what does the -- MARK -- processes mean?
[11:08] <fdelanoy> thefeds: I think you can, but only the last mounted one will be visible/active
[11:08] <dvs-> u_dparte: ill have a look at it
[11:08] <dvs-> thanks
[11:08] <u_dparte> yep
[11:08] <thefeds> What happens if I don't set a mount point?
[11:09] <qe2eqe> thefeds, well, you can look at /etc/fstab, which should make sense
[11:09] <fdelanoy> thefeds: why would you want to do that BTW?
[11:09] <thefeds> What happens if I don't set a mount point?
[11:09] <hklop> When are the updates going to stop for dapper drake?
[11:09] <qe2eqe> thefeds, no mount = no use
[11:09] <duckwars> how do I find an external hard drive in ubuntu through the terminal?
[11:09] <thefeds> well if I have 3 hard disks, how do I partition them
[11:09] <thefeds> so I can use 3
[11:09] <thefeds> in ubuntu
[11:09] <u_dparte> duckwars
[11:09] <qe2eqe> thefeds, unless you're using it to help raise the temperature of your case in an arctic climate.
[11:09] <fdelanoy> duckwars: /media
[11:09] <u_dparte> duckwars, cd /media/disk/<drives>
[11:10] <thefeds> So how do I use all three drives?
[11:10] <moncky> thefeds: format them with seperate mount points eg /mnt/disk1 /mnt/disk2
[11:10] <moncky> thefeds: though I would reccomend not doing that and instead looking at LVM
[11:11] <duckwars> how do I use terminal to copy a file from another computer I'm logged into to my local computer?
[11:11] <qe2eqe> thefeds, well, you might want to look into raid techniques if you want a seamless transition, but that also more than triples the likelihood you lose data. =/ I'll walk you through an example mount. You have sda1, sda2, sda3. Type mkdir /mnt/sda1     and try  mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[11:12] <thefeds> If I make the mount point /disk1 instead of /mnt/disk1, will non root be able to look at it?
[11:12] <rmccinfo> bonjour
[11:12] <qe2eqe> thefeds, it won't work if you don't have any filesystem, so you might need mkfs, ubuntu has neat scripts to help you with that
[11:13] <thefeds> one disk is mounted as /
[11:13] <thefeds> 2 are /disk1 /disk2
[11:13] <thefeds> and a swap partition
[11:13] <qe2eqe> thefeds, well, if non-root can't see it, all you have to do is change permissions, which i don't remember off-hand
[11:14] <thefeds> If I have a hard disk as a slave to a CD-ROM drive, how much slower will it be?
[11:14] <thefeds> right now one of my hard drives is a slave
[11:14] <thefeds> to the CD rom drive
[11:14] <psycolizard> sigh... no luck. x86 didnt work either. must be my computer
[11:14] <indus> Psychoholic: whats teh problem?
[11:15] <qe2eqe> thefeds, ubuntu should really do all of that automatically, though
[11:15] <thefeds> no
[11:15] <thefeds> It only does one drive
[11:15] <Psychoholic> am i typing unknowingly?
[11:16] <duckwars> If I ssh into another computer how do I describe the filesystem of the computer I'm on?
[11:16] <qe2eqe> thefeds, I did the cd > hd slave thing like that before when jury rigging a micro case... it didn't seem ridiculously slow, but i didn't do benchmarks, either
[11:16] <ubuntu> duckwars: describe?
[11:16] <duckwars> I want to use the cp command to copy a file from the computer I'm ssh'd into to the one I'm physically at
[11:17] <qe2eqe> duckwars, I never could figure that out. =/ I used wget once, but that was already set up as server and easy
[11:17] <rayno_b> any virtualbox guru's out here?  I'm having trouble with loading an Ubuntu Guest on Ubuntu Host with VirtualBox.  When I load the Virtual Machine to start loading the system, the CD boots, but the screen remains black so I can't see what I'm selecting :(
[11:17] <geirha> !scp | duckwars
[11:17] <indus> duckwars: use scp
[11:17] <psycolizard> i already have a windows dual boot setup so it uses windows boot manager, could that be the reason i cant install ubuntu? i read that using a different boot manager can cause problems
[11:17] <duckwars> oh, I just figured there was someway to do it through terminal... I can do it through cyberduck for os x
[11:17] <joebodo> duckwars use scp from the machine you are connecting from
[11:18] <indus> Psychoholic: why cant you install ubuntu?
[11:18] <indus> Psychoholic: sorry wrong nik
[11:18] <indus> psycolizard: why cant you install ubuntu?
[11:18] <psycolizard> i think u mean me, and i wish i knew
[11:18] <indus> psycolizard: whats the error?
[11:19] <imaginativeone> how do I unfreeze my system?
[11:19] <koshari> rayno_b you mount the guest iso and run the app inside the VM
[11:20] <joebodo> imaginativeone alt-sysrek k will restart X
[11:20] <indus> joebodo: alt-SysRq-K
[11:20] <indus> joebodo: oops
[11:20] <CKY> can someone help me ..?
[11:20] <psycolizard> ok, start comp with disk in, goes to language select, select english, goes to menu "install, demo, etc." both install and demo run the ubunto loader bar, then goes to a black screen that says that all software is free for ubuntu and that there is no warranty, and it has a doslike prompt that looks like "ubuntu$:" or somethin like that.
[11:21] <indus> imaginativeone:ALT-SysRq-K
[11:21] <indus> psycolizard: what demo
[11:21] <CKY> ..anyone?
[11:21] <psycolizard> how u can run ubuntu from the disk to try it before u install
[11:21] <joebodo> !ask | CKY
[11:22] <psycolizard> that demo
[11:22] <indus> psycolizard: did you select the first option
[11:22] <psycolizard> ive tried both. they both go to the same place
[11:22] <indus> psycolizard: try 2nd option safe graphics mode
[11:22] <psycolizard> tried that too, same screen...
[11:22] <indus> psycolizard: did you do a startx
[11:22] <psycolizard> a what?
[11:23] <indus> psycolizard: at that ubuntu-$ prompt type startx
[11:23] <ubuntu> psycolizard: you should use the check disk option to see that CD is OK
[11:23] <psycolizard> oh, ive run the disk check from the menu, said no errors
[11:23] <Gunther> i have installed jdk5 and netbeans6.7 in ubuntu, when i run netbeans from root it is working fine
[11:23] <Gunther> but when i try from another user say "Gunther" netbeans just hangs, may be it is a problem with jdk execute permissions
[11:23] <Gunther> can anyone help me solve this
[11:24] <joebodo> Gunther have you tried starting from command line to see if there are any errors ?
[11:24] <Myrtti> CKY: ask?
[11:24] <indus> psycolizard: did you trythat command
[11:24] <ubuntu> psycolizard: there is an option to us 'verbal' startup so u could see where it hangs
[11:25] <psycolizard> no, not specifically startx, ill try that. and what do u mean verbal startup?
[11:26] <CKY> ok..i have a strange sound problem,it started just today before that all was just fine but now it make sounds as if the speakers are broken,by the way i have laptop..i tried to do something with the sound system and i manged to solve the problem and now only few application are working ,but the almost everything does not including the background sound of the OS
[11:29] <Gunther> can anyone give the pasting link
[11:29] <discorpia> pastebin.com
[11:29] <lstarnes> Gunther: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:29] <indus> psycolizard: any luck
[11:29] <CKY> can anyone help me from where to start,where to read..something
[11:30] <indus> CKY: can you tell us what exactly you did
[11:30] <joebodo> !sound
[11:30] <joebodo> is this sound message relevant anymore ?
[11:30] <CKY> that's the funny thing..nothing
[11:30] <psycolizard> i was waiting to hear what the verbal thing was, its this computer i cant install it on so i have to reboot to install it
[11:31] <christophsturm> how can i configure when my harddisks go to sleep? I have a server with a big raid and the server is always running, but i want the harddisks to spin down after some time
[11:31] <chrissi> anyone got a quick hint how to run a programm at startup with root privileges?
[11:31] <psycolizard> ill try now, be right back, hopefully with good news
[11:31] <indus> psycolizard: well , press ctl f1 during boot for more info
[11:31] <bart416> k, that took longer than I expected :|
[11:31] <Gunther> joebodo: can you please have a look, i don't know wheather it's an error messagehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/208024/
[11:31] <bart416> nobody had to publish a note that kubuntu automatically tries to install outdated nvidia drivers >_>
[11:32] <discorpia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/208025/  anyone who's good with ATI and can give a clue?
[11:33] <bart416> discorpia, change your monitor identification in the xorg config file to screen0 ;)
[11:33] <packet-sent> If my motherboard has a limit on hard drive size so cannot it fails to recognise a 120GB drive, would installing ubuntu on a compatible 40GB drive allow me to use the 120GB as a slave ?
[11:33] <joebodo> Gunther: that's the output on the console ??
[11:33] <aytekin_> hello there
[11:33] <discorpia> bart416: it's that simple? :D i tried a blank to make it trye "screen" but it required a number, but should have tried that as well, i'll check, thanks mate
[11:34] <Gunther> joebodo: yes
[11:34] <bart416> discorpia, that looks like a logical solution :|
[11:34] <discorpia> bart416: the monitor or the screen section?
[11:34] <aytekin_>  i need a suggestion how to be made chmod 777 in ubuntu
[11:34] <bart416> good question
[11:34] <Gunther> joebodo: i got it when  i run netbean from command line
[11:34] <aytekin_>  i have installed php-5 and apache2 server
[11:35] <discorpia> i understand absolutely nothing about monitors in xorg now, it seems tied to the graphicscard-driver, not any monitor sections etc
[11:35] <bart416> :S
[11:35] <joebodo> Gunther: not much to go on -
[11:35] <bart416> does the ati driver have any auto configuration utility?
[11:35] <tyler> whats the difference between a screenlet and a desklet...and can they both be enabled in compiz fusions widget layer?
[11:35] <discorpia> bart416: aticonfig
[11:35] <bart416> can't that thing solve the issue?
[11:36] <discorpia> bart416: no, uhm, maybe not auto, i probably misunderstood you. but i think aticonfig is as close as it comes
[11:36] <joebodo> Gunther: try this ... xhost +
[11:36] <discorpia> bart416: and nobody anywhere (been googling all morning) seems to be able to say how to force it to a new monitor typ
[11:36] <discorpia> type*
[11:37] <discorpia> and with the proprietary drivers all gnome setting dialogs regarding screen/resolution/etc are defunct
[11:38] <Gunther> joebodo: same resutl
[11:38] <joebodo> discorpia i added my monitor definition to the xorg.conf to get the proper resolutions to select from
[11:38] <aytekin_> hello
[11:38] <joebodo> Gunther: sorry - no help here...
[11:38] <bart416> discorpia, mhhh typical ATI stuff :|
[11:38] <aytekin_>  i need a suggestion how to be made chmod 777 in ubuntu
[11:38] <discorpia> joebodo: i tried but it seemed to completely ignore it :/
[11:38] <tw3ak> good morning
[11:39] <aytekin_>  i have installed php-5 and apache2 server
[11:39] <bart416> why do I have the feeling I'm installing 90% of gnome the moment I install a GTK application :|
[11:39] <joebodo> discorpia did you restart X after modifying xorg.conf ?
[11:39] <tw3ak> I wasn't aware that while compiliiing kernel I could disable SElinux and my Xserver LOL
[11:39] <discorpia> joebodo: yeah, and it was the right depth too
[11:39] <tw3ak> Xorg needs inet6 to boot ? that was wierd
[11:40] <discorpia> joebodo: i'm trying to find the xorg.conf with my monitor in it that i used to copy&paste, my monitor is a SyncMaster 2493HM (Samsung), maybe it was something funky with the line
[11:40] <BigMack83> if two users that are in the same group, and they have a link in their home folder that links to a dir (out of their home dir) that is owned by the same group they are a member of. why would only one be able to access it and not the other? i have logged them out and back in but no change. i cant figure it out
[11:41] <imaginativeone> my window controls disappeared in kOrganizer.  How do I get them back?
[11:41] <dayo> how do i auto-generate passwords in ubuntu?
[11:41] <tw3ak> <<< I make a backup /etc in my home/dir / etc_backup for all my customized files
[11:41] <saliak> I'm having some trouble setting up postfix for my server.  I followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix and it works through "testing", but if i try to send an email (say, via telneting to port 25 and manually issuing commands) locally or remotely, it doesn't work.  any ideas where i should/could start?  the test email i sent o my address @gmail.com is still in the outgoing queue and it says the connection to gmai.
[11:41] <BigMack83> i have checked the /etc/group file and confirmed they are a member of said group
[11:41] <joebodo> discorpia this is basically what i added to my monitor section to get it to identify properly:     HorizSync       31.0 - 89.<cr>  VertRefresh     55.0 - 160.0
[11:42] <joebodo> discorpia i had to google the correct values for my monitor
[11:42] <gastly> hi all, can anyone tell me how do I get smooth fonts with a custom firefox build? I've already tried the --enable-system-cairo option, but the fonts are nowhere near the fonts of firefox in the official ubuntu repo's
[11:43] <tw3ak> gastly there is a book called Ubuntu Kung Fu that I downloaded that gives you all the stuff about fonts as well as lot of other stuff
[11:43] <tw3ak> it's free
[11:43] <lyhana8> hi, does anyone manage to run Starcraft on a Virtualbox machine on fullscreen ?
[11:44] <gastly> tw3ak, cool, thanks I'll check it out
[11:44] <tw3ak> k
[11:44] <tw3ak> << newb actually helped someone
[11:44] <discorpia> joebodo: seems samsung is semi-known for sending invalid EDID info
[11:44] <rski> lyhana8: you can't starcraft dosent upscale
[11:44] <kesus> see this its incredible ->> http://palizasasas.elbruto.es/
[11:44] <tw3ak> lyhana have you run Virtualbox full screen on anything else?
[11:44] <rski> kesus: fuck off
[11:45] <Bennit> Hello, anyone know why nrouter+nadapter don't perform as well under ubuntu as under for example win7?
[11:45] <Bennit> is it the drivers or are there other issues?
[11:45] <kraut> kesus: gtfo and die!
[11:45] <gastly> tw3ak, but I doubt that it shows how to compile firefox and get nice fonts working :)
[11:45] <Bennit> I get 2.7mb/s max, under wiN7 it's 7-8mb/s
[11:45] <Myrtti> kraut: mind your language
[11:45] <lyhana8> tw3ak: yeah all apps work fullscreen except SC
[11:45] <tw3ak> it doesn't show firefox but it does show nice fonts they are not related
[11:46] <ubuntu> what was the name of that minimum ubuntu/linux install where you can decide yourself whick packages to install?
[11:46] <tw3ak> lyhana8 I would say it has something to do with memory then or your card
[11:46] <BigMack83> can anyone help with a groups issue? i have two users on my server that are in the same group, but one of the users cant access a directory (via a link in the home dir) that is owned by that same group yet the other user can go inside the dir
[11:46] <kraut> Myrtti: ok, but i hate such idiots...
[11:46] <tw3ak> video card
[11:46] <Myrtti> kraut: doesn't justify language
[11:46] <gastly> hmm...but I wanted to replicate the fonts that are in the firefox build of the ubuntu repositories...everything else is fine, no problems with fonts on any other app :)
[11:46] <dAnon> can someone explain me what X server actually is?
[11:46] <tw3ak> gastly the firefox site tells how to compile firefox
[11:46] <Glowball> Where can I see my processor's temperature?
[11:47] <koshari> Glowball you need to install sensors
[11:47] <mgolisch> BigMack83: does it have execute permission for the group?
[11:47] <Glowball> Oh.
[11:47] <gastly> tw3ak, yup, I've tried that and compiled it, but they don't tell anything about which font toolkit is good
[11:47] <Glowball> Dammit.
[11:47] <tw3ak> not sure but firefox 3.5 if out now
[11:47] <BigMack83> mgolisch:  yes, the perms for that dir are 775
[11:47] <kraut> Myrtti: that's why i said "ok" ;)
[11:47] <lyhana8> dAnon: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
[11:47] <snoker52> hola
[11:47] <koshari> tw3ak: its in the repos
[11:48] <tw3ak> Yolinux is another font site
[11:48] <dAnon> lyhana8: thx
[11:48] <tw3ak> ko thanks
[11:48] <joebodo> BigMack83 link and target dir perms are the same ?
[11:48] <gastly> or maybe anyone can tell which is the best freetype2 or xft when it comes to font rendering? :)
[11:49] <tw3ak> < << compiling a custom kernel  why does not compiling inet6 break Xorg?
[11:49] <BigMack83> yea, the link itself is owned by root:root, but the dir itself is owned by "root:devgroup" which they are both a member of. both links point to the same place
[11:49] <tw3ak> is it just a function of init?
[11:50] <tw3ak> excuse Xinit
[11:50] <rayno_b> How can I display my server X remotely on a Windows XP machine?
[11:51] <alex12> hellos, im having problmes with firefox on ubuntu 8.10 - it __contsantly___ crashes all the time, the windows turns into a shade of grey then i have to force close the application, ive tried a ton of things to fix it, anyone have any suggestions  on how to fix this? why is it so unstable?
[11:51] <koshari> rayno_b tightVNC
[11:51] <BigMack83> the only difference is that the user that can access the dir from the link is that using "ls -la" the link looks normal colors from my bash file, but when looking from the user that cant access the dir the link is red
[11:51] <dAnon> how do I uninstall nvidia drivers
[11:51] <BigMack83> mgolisch joebodo ^^
[11:51] <dAnon> ?
[11:52] <psycolizard> ok, im back... still wont install, ive tried everything suggested so far
[11:52] <joebodo> alex12 i find firefox more stable on ubuntu - do you have many plugins installed in firefox ?
[11:53] <pretender> Eeebuntu how can i  restore the default gdock
[11:53] <alex12> joebodo, i have firebug installed, but even when disabled she still crashes
[11:53] <joebodo> alex12 k - i have firebug also...
[11:54] <ubuntu> what was the name of that minimum ubuntu/linux install where you can decide yourself whick packages to install?
[11:54] <BigMack83> joebodo:  yea but does it make a difference if firebug is installed from the repos or from mozillas plugin site?
[11:54] <dAnon> why ain't 185 drivers on the synaptic
[11:55] <rski> dAnon: it's to new
[11:55] <psycolizard> i can not get Ununtu to install in this computer, I have tried everything suggested and it just will not work...
[11:55] <bart416> Psychoholic, what's the problem?
[11:55] <rski> psycolizard: that tells absolutely nothing
[11:55] <psycolizard> *Ubuntu
[11:55] <joebodo> BigMack83 i installed from mozilla site
[11:55] <dAnon> why can't I use glx
[11:55] <Kartagis> !nvidia
[11:56] <bart416> psycolizard, does the live cd boot?
[11:56] <dAnon> and why isn't it the part of the fucking drivers
[11:56] <rski> dAnon: probably because it's broken somehow.
[11:56] <BigMack83> ah, i didnt know if that made a difference for the issue you were referring to
[11:56] <ubuntu> psycolizard: i wonder if xubuntu would install to it easier. is it old computer? what kind of HW. specially Graphics?
[11:56] <dAnon> everything is broken in linux
[11:56] <rski> dAnon: it's part of the drivers
[11:56] <rski> dAnon: please dont live not everything is broken
[11:56] <rski> lie*
[11:56] <joebodo> BigMack83 me either - i guess it depends upon what version is loaded from apt
[11:56] <bart416> ubuntu, if regular ubuntu doesn't want to install I doubt kubuntu or xubuntu will install either ;)
[11:56] <bazhang> dAnon, watch the language
[11:57] <dAnon> can't run Enemy Territory
[11:57] <psycolizard> its a new computer, i built it in febuary. AMD64 6600+ cpu, sli nvidia 8600gts gpu cards, 4gb ram... what else need to know?
[11:57] <thankyou> does anyone know how to get the widget layer working in compiz-fusion?
[11:57] <psycolizard> 6400+ my bad
[11:57] <rski> psycolizard: that didnt help
[11:57] <qe2eqe> dAnon, run glxinfo | grep render       --- yes or no?
[11:57] <joebodo> BigMack83 possibly try removing the link and recreating when logged in as the problem user
[11:57] <rski> psycolizard: tell us what you tried and how it failed
[11:58] <bart416> psycolizard, what's the install problem?
[11:58] <bazhang> psycolizard, tried the alternate cd yet? what about bootoptions?
[11:58] <joebodo> BigMack83 if the link is created correctly - i see no reason why it would be unusable for one person and not the other
[11:59] <imaginativeone> how do I get my window controls back?
[11:59] <bazhang> thankyou, widget layer? in kde4?
[11:59] <thankyou> no gnome...theres a widget plugin in compiz-fusion where u push f9 and widgets appear
[11:59] <BigMack83> joebodo:  ok as my user if i go into the users profile and run "ll" the link is blue, normal colors. but as that user the link is red. i will try creating the link as the other user
[12:00] <bazhang> thankyou, let me take a look at mine
[12:00] <qe2eqe> is it possible for a script, run by not root, to have privileges user would not have -- without using passwords in the script
[12:00] <psycolizard> reboot with disk in takes me to language select which takes me to menu with demo, install, check cd, etc. both install and demo bring me to black screen that says all of software is free for ubuntu. tried startx and got a few things that ill post in a second. tried graphic safe took me to same screen. tried both x86 and x64 disks
[12:00] <thankyou> bazhang: thanks!
[12:00] <bazhang> psycolizard, paste.ubuntu.com with errors please
[12:00] <snoker52> uops
[12:01] <discorpia> joebodo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/208043/   does that xorg.conf look weird to you? (or to anyone else for that matter)
[12:01] <psycolizard> i dont know what that means... im new to this
[12:01] <bazhang> psycolizard, did you md5 the iso? and do the disk integrity check after burning at very low speed?
[12:01] <BigMack83> joebodo:  the user that cant access the dir is allowed to create the link to the dir (does not have sudo access)
[12:01] <psycolizard> did the integrity check, and ive installed it on one computer already
[12:01] <bazhang> psycolizard, what graphics card
[12:02] <psycolizard> 2x nvidia 8600GTS
[12:02] <qe2eqe> psycolizard, I bet your answer lies in a video option to pass at boot time.
[12:02] <remoteCTR1> can someone pls point me the way to a howto on creating an ubuntu on a pendrive without having ubuntu or windwos installed to do so?
[12:02] <bazhang> remoteCTR1, pendrive connected to what
[12:02] <rski> remoteCTR1: not possible
[12:03] <qe2eqe> rski, I disagree
[12:03] <rski> well if you run mac it is
[12:03] <dAnon> qe2eqe ran it
[12:03] <rski> so agreed
[12:03] <remoteCTR1> bazhang, pendrive connected to debian lenny
[12:03] <qe2eqe> dAnon, if you run it in a terminal it tells you yes or no.
[12:03] <rski> ....
[12:03] <bazhang> remoteCTR1, #debian
[12:04] <remoteCTR1> bazhang, err... i want to have ubuntu on the pendrive?
[12:04] <qe2eqe> rski, =) If you don't count a livecd as a ram installation?
[12:04] <dAnon> qe2eqe http://paste.ubuntu.com/208046/plain/
[12:04] <bazhang> remoteCTR1, or pendrive website (really a #debian issue though)
[12:04] <dAnon> this is what it returns
[12:05] <remoteCTR1> bazhang, im not sure i follow... in jaunty there is a menu item in system menu to create an image, theres also gotta be a manual way, right?
[12:05] <qe2eqe> dAnon, that blows my mind why it returned anything.
[12:06] <bazhang> remoteCTR1, you specified without Ubuntu though (check the pendrive website for more)
[12:06] <qe2eqe> dAnon, Have you made sure you enabled proprietary hardware drivers through the menu?
[12:06] <psycolizard> this is what startx gave me : primary device not pci, (EE) no devices detected, Fatal Server Error: no screens found
[12:06] <remoteCTR1> bazhang, humm... will do thanks:-/
[12:06] <dAnon> it is enabled
[12:07] <dAnon> says it's enabled and running
[12:07] <dAnon> used 173 this time
[12:07] <dAnon> 180 also failed
[12:07] <qdb> hello
[12:07] <qe2eqe> dAnon, have you tried using envy / envyng ?
[12:07] <qdb> i have stardict question
[12:08] <dAnon> yep
[12:08] <dAnon> can't get this stupid glx to work
[12:09] <ubuntu> psycolizard: maybe try to install with one card first? and then try to get it working later with two so u can edit Xorg etc conf files
[12:09] <bazhang> thankyou, not working here either, could be an issue on how to activate  let's ask in #compiz
[12:11] <psycolizard> ugh, im not takin my card out, too much of a hastle. i was worried that could be it tho. -.- guess i just have have ubuntu
[12:11] <psycolizard> *cant have
[12:11] <rayno_b> how can I remotely see my xorg x screen?
[12:11] <thankyou> bazhang: im trying this now http://www.ubuntugeek.com/screenlets-work-with-compiz-widget-layer-in-ubuntu-gutsy.html
[12:11] <koshari> bazhang whats the plugin?
[12:11] <bazhang> koshari, widget layer
[12:11] <qe2eqe> dAnon, im no expert, but I'd say completely undo everything envy did, check glx, and then run ubuntu in recovery mode and use the menu to reconfigure x, then check glx
[12:12] <joebodo> !xdmcp
[12:12] <qe2eqe> dAnon, of course, also do lspci and google your specific card for pitfalls and caveats and things
[12:12] <joebodo> !xdmcp | rayno_b
[12:12] <qdb> i have stardict question
[12:12] <qe2eqe> joebodo,  cool link
[12:12] <qe2eqe> !xdmcp | qe2eqe
[12:12] <rayno_b> thx ubottu
[12:13] <bazhang> thankyou, getting some answers in #compiz you may want to join there as well
[12:13] <toddy> does anyone know how to use webcam chats in the kopete program?
[12:13] <qdb> how to use special searcher here? alis? alice?
[12:13] <lstarnes> qdb: alis
[12:13] <ubuntu> psycolizard: doesnt look goof with pci-e6600 ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-15311.html
[12:13] <psycolizard> im going to try the alternate disk, if that dont work, i give up :(
[12:13] <lstarnes> qdb: /msg alis help list
[12:13] <jorisslob> According to the #tomcat topic, people should use mod_proxy_ajp instead of mod_jk. This is not in the Ubuntu repository however. What should I do? Stick with Ubuntu's repository, or get mod_proxy_ajp from somewhere else?
[12:14] <qdb> thank you
[12:14] <suppi> hi all
[12:14] <vistakiller> when we get the new firefox update?
[12:15] <suppi> i installed a program using the .bin file.....how do i uninstall tat program??????pls help
[12:15] <bazhang> thankyou, you need to choose some widgets to add as it is otherwise empty
[12:15] <bazhang> thankyou, to quote: the widget layer plugin is empty of actual widgets  it is just a layer to place them you can also place applications like terminal or any application actually
[12:15] <toddy> I have been searching alot of time on how to get video chats on msn messenger programs 4 linux. is anyone able to help me.?
[12:15] <TailsofFate> Does anyone know hot to start an IRC server?
[12:15]  * zerozerozero how do i Set the default sound card for alsa
[12:16] <bazhang>  if an application  open the application and ccsm  and go to the widget layer plugin then the Behaviour tab and click the yellow  +  icon  again a quote thankyou
[12:17] <psycolizard> ubuntu: theyre 8600s, not that its any different to linux i suppose
[12:17] <thankyou> bazhang: ccsm?
[12:17] <dAnon> it's 3rd day I can't get the properly working driver
[12:17] <bazhang> thankyou, the compizconfig settings manager, where you activate do the settings for the various plugins
[12:18] <winterk> Hiya - I was wondering if anyone here knows how I might be able to port the old default Human theme from Intrepid's GDM to Jaunty's? I have the GDM theme files from 8.10, just not sure how to port them over instead of the current black screen.
[12:18] <psycolizard> however that says that the 32bit install should work just fine. whereas theyre having the same error, both 32 and 64
[12:18] <bazhang> thankyou, found under system-->preferences
[12:18] <thankyou> bazhang: yeah im there i asee the little add icon...what text do i add?
[12:18] <thefeds> Is sshd running in a default ubuntu install?
[12:18] <suppi> guys help me out
[12:18] <thankyou> bazhang: its asking me for type value relation and invert
[12:19] <bazhang> thankyou, check the quotes I pasted above
[12:19] <zerozerozero> where can i find modprobe.conf file??
[12:19] <thefeds> Is sshd running in a default ubuntu install?
[12:19] <lstarnes> thefeds: not of the desktop edition
[12:19] <thefeds> ok
[12:19] <sabgenton> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick this is very cool looking but is there a dd image that someone has prepared earlyer?
[12:19] <thefeds> Is it installed?
[12:19] <qe2eqe> thefeds, no
[12:19] <jorisslob> zerozerozero: That should be in your /etc directory
[12:19] <thefeds> sudo apt-get install sshd
[12:19] <thefeds> right?
[12:19] <robin__> hello anyone can help wats is e meaning of not a sudoers file????
[12:19] <robin__> hello anyone can help wats is e meaning of not a sudoers file????
[12:20] <sabgenton> anyone?
[12:20] <sabgenton> or anyware
[12:20] <sabgenton> ?
[12:20] <thefeds> will it run on start up if I do that?
[12:20] <lstarnes> thefeds: its package name is openssh-server
[12:20] <thefeds> If I install it will it start on startup?
[12:20] <thefeds> or is that a config you have to do?
[12:20] <lstarnes> thefeds: I think so
[12:20] <moncky> !patience | sabgenton
[12:20] <zerozerozero> jorisslob: /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf?
[12:21] <joebodo> sshd will start by default
[12:21] <_Claus> Hello one and all, does anyone know how to change the suspend command to shutdown in 8.10? :)
[12:21] <sabgenton> moncky: I wasn't repeating I was trying to say does any one or anyware / anywebsite
[12:21] <sabgenton> have it
[12:21] <bazhang> sabgenton, you are using jaunty?
[12:21] <zerozerozero> jorisslob: modprob.d folder doesnot have modprob.conf
[12:21] <jorisslob> zerozerozero: I believe that the modprobe.conf is split up in multiple files inside the modprobe.d under ubuntu
[12:21] <koshari> sabgenton care to be more specific, the link just gives a tut on unetbootin ect
[12:22] <jg_> hellp
[12:22] <jg_> i need help
[12:22] <sabgenton> it lets u make a usbstick installer
[12:22] <bazhang> sabgenton, any reason not to use the usb-creator within jaunty?
[12:22] <jg_> is there not msn on ubuntu
[12:22] <jg_> im a new user
[12:22] <jorisslob> zerozerozero: So every module can get its seperate file
[12:22] <koshari> sabgenton just use unetbootin
[12:22] <sabgenton> anyone made one that can dd the image?
[12:22] <bazhang> jg_, amsn
[12:22] <jg_> and youtube dosent load
[12:22] <jg_> so bad
[12:22] <zerozerozero> jorisslob: oh i had added a sound card to my system i want to make it the default soundcard
[12:23] <bazhang> jg_, dont type two words and hit enter key
[12:23] <jg_> youtube dosent work on ubuntu
[12:23] <bazhang> jg_, you need to install flash
[12:23] <joebodo> zerozerozero try /etc/modules
[12:23] <rski> jg_: there is msn on ubuntu
[12:23] <tw3ak> ok, hope there are some kernel builders here, I screwed up...... again...............SElinux disabled at boot would it be kernel config or init change?
[12:23] <bazhang> !flash > jg_
[12:23] <rski> jg_: also do you have flash installed
[12:23] <_Claus> jg_ you could also use emesene http://www.emesene.org/
[12:23] <robin__> hello anyone i just intall fedora 11 i try install xchat and it says robin is not in the sudoers file wat is e meaning????????????
[12:23] <jorisslob> zerozerozero: Hmm, sorry, maybe someone else has more experience, this is all I can find/know
[12:23] <bazhang> robin__, #fedora
[12:23] <jg_> i got flash
[12:24] <rski> jg_: how does it not work then
[12:24] <jg_> claus_ are you danish
[12:24] <_Claus> jg_ yes sir
[12:24] <jg_> ooh so am i
[12:25] <bazhang> !ot > jg_
[12:25] <_Claus> jg_ cool but it would not be polite to speak in our native tounge in this channel.
[12:25] <jg_> oooooh ok
[12:25] <jg_> why
[12:25] <Myrtti> !dk | jg_
[12:25] <Myrtti> !english | jg_
[12:25] <jg_> i am actually not danish i am invandrer immigrant
[12:25] <bazhang> jg_, this is not the chat channel; #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[12:26] <jg_> omfg what is this channel
[12:26] <rski> ?
[12:26] <_Claus> jg_ thats why ;) but you can also use www.ubuntuforums.dk if you which to speak danish
[12:26] <lstarnes> jg_: this is the support channel for ubuntu
[12:26] <Myrtti> jg_: English Ubuntu Support
[12:26] <bazhang> jg_, watch the language
[12:26] <jg_> what language
[12:26] <jg_> omg i need help
[12:26] <jg_> man i need so much help
[12:26] <sabgenton> koshari: meh ok
[12:26] <Myrtti> jg_: no cursing, not even with acronyms
[12:27] <jg_> I need help
[12:27] <jg_> can anyone help
[12:27] <jg_> send me a message to private if you can help
[12:27] <ziroday> !details | jg_
[12:27] <rski> jg_: worst question you can ask
[12:27] <jg_> I have a problem youtube dosent play
[12:27] <thefeds> 1380 people here, someone surely can help
[12:27] <Myrtti> !pm | jg_
[12:27] <sabgenton> koshari: just don't have cd drive on me right now
[12:27] <dAnon> no
[12:27] <qe2eqe> Myrtti, what if the acronym is more popular in minced oath fashion than in vulgar?
[12:27] <dAnon> I can't be helped
[12:27] <rski> jg_: so i asked how does it not play
[12:27] <lstarnes> jg_: how did you install flash?
[12:28] <dAnon> I am reinstalling Ubuntu 3rd time now
[12:28] <joebodo> jg_ you could try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras - that will install flash properly
[12:28] <jg_> from flash player site
[12:28] <rski> jg_: try from the repo instead
[12:28] <koshari> sabgenton you dont need one with unetbootin thats the whole point, it simply loads the iso on the usb drive
[12:28] <thefeds> Why are you re-installing dAnon
[12:28] <thefeds> ?
[12:28] <jg_> wtfu is repo
[12:28] <lstarnes> jg_: you should use the flashplugin-nonfree package
[12:28] <Myrtti> qe2eqe: no cursing - in any form.
[12:28] <jg_> i am totally new to ubuntu
[12:28] <sabgenton> koshari: yeah I get ya
[12:28] <badeagle> oh jeez this is really off topic, but in the USA if i'm exposed to an extremely rare anthrax bug, who should I call?
[12:28] <Myrtti> jg_: NO CURSING, please!
[12:28] <jg_> i dont know anything about ubuntu
[12:28] <dAnon> I got so lost in all this pointless crap
[12:28] <lstarnes> jg_: look in system > administration > synaptic package manager
[12:28] <sabgenton> koshari: does usb-creator work if you run the live cd
[12:28] <dAnon> can't just get fucking opengl to work
[12:28] <bazhang> !ot | badeagle
[12:28] <jschiff> badeagle: ghostbusters
[12:28] <ziroday> jg_: go to a flash website, click the Install flash button
[12:28] <jg_> ok 2secs
[12:29] <sabgenton> (for if you do have a cd drive)
[12:29] <sabgenton> if you run it from the live cd i mean
[12:29] <koshari> jg_ repos are where all the software packages are stored, like a big comprehensive tucows for ubuntu
[12:29] <ziroday> jg_: or open a terminal and type in sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:29] <badeagle> *aptitude ?
[12:29] <jg_> ok wait il do the terminal thing
[12:29] <dAnon> linux is incompatibile with everything
[12:30] <jg_> yo
[12:30] <bazhang> dAnon, stay on topic and stop cursing
[12:30] <rski> dAnon: i've already told you not to lie
[12:30] <jg_> theres written sudo password
[12:30] <jg_> wt is that
[12:30] <ziroday> jg_: its the password you logged in with
[12:30] <lstarnes> jg_: just type in your account's password
[12:30] <waqar> Hi, I dont know wether thats the right place to ask this question, DOES MOBILE HAS BIOS
[12:30] <rski> it's the sudo password
[12:30] <jg_> ok wait
[12:30] <dAnon> no lie just 3rd or 4th day and still no 3d acceleration on very popular video card
[12:30] <commodore256> It's Compatible With x86, x86-64, PowerPC, Sparc and ARm
[12:30] <ziroday> waqar: it depends on the device. Ask in ##hardware
[12:31] <ubuntu> jg_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and you get flash working
[12:31] <bo7amny> dose ubuntu 9.04 have any problems with nvidia cards ?
[12:31] <waqar> LETS SAY iPHONE
[12:31] <jschiff> bo7amny: not reall
[12:31] <jschiff> y
[12:31] <dAnon> I doubt it's nvidia fault
[12:31] <jg_>  dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. there is written this
[12:31] <Myrtti> waqar: how about #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:31] <dAnon> maybe 9.04 is a big pile of poo
[12:31] <commodore256> or go in to synaptic and look for "Ubuntu Restricted Extras"
[12:31] <jg_> hello
[12:31] <lstarnes> jg_: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:31] <dAnon> this is my first linux and I am disappointed
[12:31] <jg_> ok
[12:31] <bo7amny> not like intel cards , right?
[12:32] <bazhang> dAnon, please stop.
[12:32] <jschiff> dAnon: then go running back to windows :)
[12:32] <ziroday> jg_: run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:32] <commodore256> Stop Being CLI Crazy with noobs
[12:32] <dAnon> best advice you could have give me jschiff, especially on #ubuntu channel
[12:32] <waqar> Some body answering me??????
[12:32] <dAnon> thanks
[12:32] <jschiff> no prob
[12:32] <bazhang> waqar, #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:32] <qe2eqe> dAnon, it's always the manufacturers fault for calling API's trade secrets ;)
[12:32] <commodore256> Tell them the GUI way
[12:32] <lstarnes> commodore256: the cli is more efficient for simple tasks
[12:32] <waqar> bazhang: Whats that
[12:33] <jg_> now theres written Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[12:33] <jg_> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[12:33] <jg_> Setting up xchat-gnome (1:0.18-2ubuntu4.1) ...
[12:33] <indus> dAnon: you still cant get it to work?
[12:33] <dAnon> I just give up
[12:33] <commodore256> The CLI is for people that know what they are doing
[12:33] <bazhang> waqar, a channel to ask about iPhone
[12:33] <dAnon> I don't know what to do
[12:33] <ziroday> jg_: that's fine, its installing xchat-gnome which you asked it to install for
[12:33] <waqar> OK
[12:33] <jg_> omg
[12:33] <jg_> i wanted youtube
[12:33] <jg_> not xchat
[12:33] <dAnon> I want to launch enemy territory
[12:33] <waqar> bazhang: thanx
[12:33] <lstarnes> jg_: it's probably just trying to fix broken installs from earlier
[12:33] <jg_> ok lol
[12:34] <jschiff> to all in this chatroom: I'm going to have to say, ubuntu has THE BEST user base of all operating systems, Windows fan base: arrogant, Mac fan base: selfish elitists, Ubuntu fan base friendly and helpful
[12:34] <lstarnes> jg_: after that's finished, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:34] <commodore256> The CLI isn't for noobs
[12:34] <jpds> commodore256: Well, we all have to learn some day.
[12:34] <qe2eqe> commodore256, I disagree whole heartedly. CLI hacks saved my noob butt left and right
[12:34] <ziroday> commodore256: the command line is a very direct and easy way for helpers to guide you into doing exactly what is needed to be done.
[12:34] <jg_> now tyheres written Reading package lists... Done
[12:34] <jg_> Building dependency tree
[12:34] <jg_> Reading state information... Done
[12:34] <jg_> E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-restricted-exstas
[12:35] <FloodBot2> jg_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:35] <ziroday> jg_: its ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:35] <lstarnes> jg_: you typoed -extras
[12:35] <armagheddonsgw> hi guys i need serious help with my comp. ubuntu seems to be CAPABLE of fixing it, but i dont know how. in windows, disk 1 (hard drive) and both optical drives cant be found. in ubuntu however the partitions on disk 0 cant be mounted
[12:35] <qe2eqe> jg_, you'll learn real quick to measure twice and cut once with text commands. =)
[12:36] <commodore256> If they just came from monoploy OS, the last thing they wanna do is use the thing that looks like the command prompt that they never used.
[12:36] <jg_> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:36] <jg_> Need to get 36.4MB of archives.
[12:36] <jg_> After this operation, 105MB of additional disk space will be used.
[12:36] <jg_> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[12:36] <qe2eqe> armagheddonsgw, alot of times, in that setup, problems happen when the windows partitions haven't been unmounted proper, i.e, windows not shut down well
[12:36] <rski> jg_: and?
[12:36] <lstarnes> jg_: you probably want Y
[12:36] <armagheddonsgw> yeah i know WHAT the problem is
[12:36] <jg_> ok
[12:36] <armagheddonsgw> i want to know HOW to fix it
[12:37] <ziroday> commodore256: nobody is forcing you to use the command line, however the person helping you often prefers it as its quicker, more direct and easier to follow
[12:37] <qe2eqe> jg_, try to be polite and conserve how many lines you post in this channel.
[12:37] <joebodo> OMG I have to use the buttons with the letters on them !!
[12:38] <jg_> shut up
[12:38] <armagheddonsgw> .... yes thats called a keyboard joebodo.
[12:38] <commodore256> Driving is only quicker than walking only if you know how to drive
[12:38] <rski> that's not being polite jg_
[12:38] <jg_> ok i know srry lol
[12:38] <m477> #ubuntu-pl
[12:38] <bazhang> jg_, lose the attitude
[12:38] <qe2eqe> commodore256, besides, gui is like communicating with gestures, cli is like language. You'd like to think that computing's final form exists in the latter, less cavemanish ways.
[12:38] <ziroday> commodore256: I'm sure if you asked the helper they would be happy to explain to you what is going on.
[12:39] <jg_> hi
[12:39] <armagheddonsgw> uhh... someone going to help me or do i have to wait all day for someone to notice i need help?
[12:39] <qe2eqe> sigh
[12:39] <jg_> hello i need help
[12:39] <qe2eqe> armagheddonsgw, did you shut down windows gracefully last time?
[12:39] <jg_> i have got a problem
[12:40] <armagheddonsgw> yes
[12:40] <armagheddonsgw> well... before the problem occurred
[12:40] <Myrtti> jg_: yes, we know
[12:40] <jpds> jg_: Welcome back!
[12:40] <qe2eqe> armagheddonsgw, What problem?
[12:40] <jg_> i cant play youtube
[12:40] <qe2eqe> !ask | armagheddonsgw
[12:40] <ziroday> jg_: we just told you what to do
[12:40] <moncky> jg_: have you installed flash?
[12:40] <jg_> i cant see what you write
[12:40] <jg_> can u write it in private message
[12:40] <jpds> jg_: Do: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree - like we told you too.
[12:40] <bazhang> jg_, please dont use enter key after one or two words
[12:40] <jg_> ok
[12:40] <jpds> jg_: So, how do you know we're writing stuff?
[12:41] <ziroday> jpds: was thinking the same thing :)
[12:41] <qe2eqe> jg_, can you do other flash apps? i.e. games?
[12:41] <smashbox> jg_: Like speaking shattner?
[12:41] <jg_> i can do some miniclip
[12:41] <jg_> but is slow
[12:42] <joebodo> !flash
[12:42] <sniff__> ecryptfs question: i re-installed jaunty that had ecrypfs'd /home partition on a separate drive. now, i didn't realize ecryptfs was dependent on a system partition /var, so i wiped by keys. i do remember the passphrase for the encrypted /home however, so i would like to know, what steps does it take to regenerate ~/.ecryptfs -> /var/lib/ecryptfs/sniff contents, that is: wrapped passphrase and Private/Public.sig? is it possible to ge
[12:42] <indus> !paste
[12:42] <qe2eqe> smashbox, shatnever doesn't say o.k. he says 'good'.
[12:42] <jg_> hello
[12:42] <bart416> you could simply install the restricted extra package if you want flash
[12:42] <jg_> help plz
[12:42] <bart416> that way you'll get all the things at once
[12:43] <armagheddonsgw> qe2eqe: pm'd you.
[12:43] <jg_> are you gonna give me some good help or not
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> I always install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package also :) it grabs flash and java and other bits.
[12:43] <jpds> !flash | jg_ - read this page
[12:43] <armagheddonsgw> jg_: from experience, you need to be patient to get help here
[12:43] <bazhang> jg_, we have answered you several times. Please stop repeating
[12:43] <sniff__> by keys == my keys that is
[12:43] <Myrtti> jg_: if you refuse to be helped, there's nothing we can do
[12:43] <jg_> i dont know what you are saying your writing 100 things on one time
[12:44] <jg_> just tell me the command i have to put in for getting flash player
[12:44] <jg_> that sudo thing
[12:44] <armagheddonsgw> !flash
[12:44] <armagheddonsgw> :(
[12:44] <bazhang> jg_, pay attention
[12:44] <jg_> why cant you message me in private
[12:44] <sniff__> ecryptfs? anyone? :D
[12:44] <bart416> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:44] <bart416> etc...
[12:44] <Myrtti> !pm > jg_
[12:44] <bazhang> jg_, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:45] <bazhang> jg_, enter that command in a terminal.
[12:45] <qdb> dictionary archives with name starting with "stardict" like stardict-mueller7-2.4.2.tar.bz2 work,  i do not know how to install dictionaries with names like comn_dictd03_ushakov.tar.bz2 .
[12:45] <armagheddonsgw> jg you can download a .bin file from adobe n screw around play with some settings to get ubuntu to treat it as a .deb.
[12:45] <jg_> ok i did
[12:45] <sniff__> !ecryptfs
[12:45] <sniff__> hmm
[12:45] <bazhang> jg_, it will take quite some time to download
[12:45] <jg_> no it wont
[12:45] <huwenfeng> hi, i setup squid as transparent proxy for other people. but in the localhost( the firewall, running the squid), web traffic does not go through squid , but connect the internet directly! how can i let the localhost's web traffic also goes through squid? transparently!
[12:45] <jg_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:46] <Myrtti> jg_: have you restarted your browser after installing flash?
[12:46] <qe2eqe> huwenfeng, admirable project you have. I never got through the squid manual when I tried =/
[12:47] <joebodo> huwenfeng change your localhost browser to use the proxy
[12:47] <Dulak> huwenfeng: http://venturehosting.net/squid-as-a-transparent-proxy-on-a-stand-alone-machine/
[12:47] <joebodo> huwenfeng or wget or whatever
[12:47] <jg_> so its downloading now
[12:47] <jg_> Download done.
[12:47] <jg_> Flash Plugin installed.
[12:47] <jg_> what now
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> exit/restart the browser
[12:47] <discorpia> seriously, this is getting on my nerves.. is there no way to ignore/disable EDID in xorg? none of the options i'm trying seems to work at all
[12:47] <moncky> jg_: you will need to kill firefox and restart it
[12:48] <jg_> browse?
[12:48] <jg_> how do i do that
[12:48] <discorpia> my monitor section in xorg.conf seems to be completely ignored as well
[12:48] <bazhang> jg_, quit firefox
[12:48] <m477_> #ubuntu-pl
[12:48] <moncky> click the x in the top right of the firefox window
[12:48] <jg_> i am not in firefox now
[12:48] <jg_> shell i open now again
[12:48] <lstarnes> jg_: yes
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> If you want to test firefox.. Yes.. you do need to start firefox....
[12:49] <sniff__> my logic is, wiping a system partition shouldn't make /home on separate disk inaccessible, if passphrase was asked to encrypt it.. and i don't remember it asking about keyfiles
[12:49] <sniff__> (regarding ecryptfs)
[12:49] <joebodo> oh the suspense
[12:49] <jg_> it still wont work
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> !dontwork
[12:49] <bazhang> jg_, where did you dl flash from
[12:49] <jg_> it still dosent work
[12:49] <jg_> from sudo
[12:49] <cemunal> will xubuntu 8.04.3 release when ubuntu 8.04.3 release?
[12:50] <jg_> sudo apt-get install.....
[12:50] <bazhang> jg_, it could not have installed that fast
[12:50] <jg_> it did
[12:50] <jg_> i swear
[12:50] <bazhang> jg_, stop wasting our time.
[12:50] <jg_> i am not
[12:50] <Dulak> something is weird, first file 1g, get 2meg/sec throughput, second file 1.4g, 4meg/sec throughput, third file 8.7g, 26m/sec throughput.
[12:50] <jg_> i want to WATCH YouTUBE
[12:50] <Dulak> how the hell does that work?
[12:51] <ziroday> jg_: please screenshot the output of dpkg -l | grep flashplugin-nonfree and going to youtube.com in your browser
[12:51] <jg_> ok i willl
[12:51] <jg_> il be back in 5 min
[12:52] <cemunal> will xubuntu 8.04.3 release when ubuntu 8.04.3 release?
[12:52] <joebodo> ?
[12:52] <ziroday> cemunal: #xubuntu will know (hopefully) :)
[12:52] <bazhang> cemunal, no reason why it would not
[12:52] <discorpia> isn't there anyone here who has used ubuntu long enough and can tell me how to turn of all the automatic bullsh*t it does when starting xorg? i want to use an old plain xorg.conf but everything seems to get overridden
[12:52] <bazhang> discorpia, no cursing
[12:53] <discorpia> my apologies
[12:53] <ziroday> discorpia: and if you're xorg.conf is defined correctly it will be used
[12:53] <sniff__> discorpia: apt-get remove gdm kdm xdm ?
[12:53] <sniff__> then login and startx
[12:54] <sniff__> it'll still go gnome/kde/xubuntu though
[12:54] <discorpia> ziroday: and if it's not shouldn't it atleast tell me? i've used all EDID-disabling switches i've found, even tried some deprecated ones, but it still ignores all monitor modes etc and uses EDID to (wrongly) identify the monitor
[12:54] <lstarnes> sniff__: that seems a bit too radical
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> discorpia:  its also X itself thats doing all the auto config stuff for the most part. Not really 'ubuntu' doing it.
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> Or thats how i understand it at least.
[12:55] <sniff__> lstarnes: well, just disable them in rc?.d
[12:55] <huwenfeng> Dulak: Oh, yes, it now goes through the squid proxy now, but just block them, i can not use firefox to browse the internet now, though it do go through the proxy
[12:55] <JediMaster> are there any distributed file systems that are supported on ubuntu?
[12:55] <sniff__> i figured discorpia doesn't want display managers :)
[12:55] <discorpia> Dr_Willis: i haven't seen this high level of automation in any other dist actually
[12:55] <_Claus> JediMaster yes AndrewFS is one, but I dont know how to set that up
[12:56] <discorpia> sniff__: i just want to force to accept my resolution no matter what it _thinks_ the monitor is
[12:56] <discorpia> i'm all for autoidentifying stuff, but it's a real nightmare when you're given no tools to override
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> discorpia:  they may not be using the same X version.  also the 'hal' configs (i think) can let you tweak some of the automated configs for X.
[12:56] <JediMaster> _Claus: not heard of it, how any ideas on performance and reliability?
[12:57] <hemanth> need some help on http://pastebin.com/m10a6d322
[12:57] <jg_> hello again
[12:57] <ziroday> jg_: hi, screenshots?
[12:57] <jg_> i will now take a screenshot
[12:57] <jg_> wiat
[12:57] <bazhang> !imagebin | jg_
[12:57] <_Claus> JediMaster sorry not really. but I suspect that a quick google will answer any of your questions. But from what I know of it, it seems to be very scalable. e.g. the dns service I use supports DNS resolution for AFS
[12:58] <jg_> file:///home/jg/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[12:58] <sniff__> discorpia: how about xvidtune? at least it works with plain rgb crts
[12:58] <bazhang> jg_, we cant access that
[12:58] <discorpia> here is my xorg.conf (http://paste.ubuntu.com/208076/) and my X.log (http://paste.ubuntu.com/208078/)
[12:58] <ziroday> jg_: upload it to imagebin, like bazhang asked you to
[12:58] <jg_> what do you mean
[12:58] <sniff__> or nvidia-settings or similar from ati :) if amd has made one
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> discorpia:  you may want to check out --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config#hal  also
[12:59] <jg_> what is imagebin
[12:59] <ziroday> !imagebin | jg_
[12:59] <bazhang> http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add   <------- jg_
[12:59] <discorpia> Dr_Willis: thanks mate
[12:59] <sniff__> no ecryptfs experts then?
[12:59] <JediMaster> _Claus: thanks
[12:59] <jg_> ok il upload that feakin image now
[12:59] <discorpia> sniff__: i'll take a look at it, thanks
[12:59] <jg_> wait a min
[12:59] <_Claus> JediMaster NP
[12:59] <jg_> and send me that command to terminal so i can take a screenshot
[13:00] <ziroday> jg_: dpkg -l | grep flashplugin-nonfree
[13:02] <jg_> i have sent it
[13:02] <ziroday> jg_: we need the URL
[13:02] <jg_> http://imagebin.org/54270
[13:02] <bazhang> jg_, give us the link
[13:02] <ziroday> jg_: you didn't show us a youtube video
[13:02] <jg_> ooh
[13:03] <jg_> you ment that
[13:03] <jg_> ok wait
[13:03] <ziroday> jg_: note a youtube video, not the youtube homepage
[13:04] <sabgenton> is it old school now to make a boot partion
[13:04] <sabgenton> I seem to see guides with out making a boot partion
[13:04] <jg_> hello here it is
[13:04] <jg_> http://imagebin.org/54271
[13:04] <sabgenton> is that cause of grub2
[13:05] <jg_> people have you seen it
[13:05] <eurythmia> sabgenton, boot partitions may be "old school," but they're still not a bad idea. Especially if you compile custom kernels.
[13:05] <jg_> hello
[13:05] <sabgenton> yeah i have always used them
[13:05] <jg_> i need help
[13:05] <joebodo> flash is loaded if there's a black window
[13:05] <jg_> man havent you seen it yet
[13:06] <jg_> http://imagebin.org/5427
[13:06] <jg_> http://imagebin.org/5427
[13:06] <jg_> http://imagebin.org/5427
[13:06] <FloodBot2> jg_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <sabgenton> eurythmia: did legacy grub not support a system with out a seperate boot
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  I keep a boot partition.. to keep a 'mini' linux on :) for 'rescue' purposes or other specilized needs.. heh.
[13:06] <sabgenton> compared to modern grub
[13:06] <jg_> hello
[13:06] <jg_> anyone can you help
[13:06] <jg_> http://imagebin.org/5427
[13:06] <jg_> heres the link man
[13:06] <bazhang> jg_, dont repeat
[13:07] <ziroday> jg_: flash is installed.
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  grub supports a /boot/ so did lilp
[13:07] <eurythmia> sabgenton, nope ... grub always supported not having a boot partition
[13:07] <jg_> yes what the prob then
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  lilo had limitations that often made it where you HAD to have a /boot/ partition at the start of the hard drive
[13:07] <bazhang> jg_, you have compiz running?
[13:07] <humbolt> laptop-mode-tools and acpi-support are not part of a jaunty standard install anymore, are they?
[13:07] <jg_> whats compiz
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> !compiz | jg_
[13:07] <humbolt> after so many upgrades, I need to clean up my system a bit
[13:07] <bazhang> jg_, desktop effects, like wobbly windows, the cube and so on
[13:08] <jg_> oh its a desktop efect
[13:08] <bazhang> jg_, alt f2 metacity --replace
[13:08] <sabgenton> Dr_Willis: I spose lilo is fine now
[13:08] <jg_> whats metacity
[13:08] <sabgenton> too
[13:08] <bazhang> jg_, just do that  ---> alt f2  metacity --replace
[13:08] <jg_> whats metacity
[13:08] <tdn> I have just installed a virtual installation of ubuntu with ubuntu-vm-builder. I have started it with "run.sh", but it only gives me console access. How do I start it with X?
[13:08] <jg_> how
[13:09] <jg_> there is no button called metacity
[13:09] <bazhang> jg_, use the alt and f2 keys
[13:09] <jg_> ok
[13:09] <bazhang> then type metacity --replace
[13:09] <jg_> and theres written run in terminal
[13:09] <jaahii76> helou
[13:10] <jg_> ok
[13:10] <jaahii76> can you help me?
[13:10] <jg_> ok i did
[13:10] <jaahii76> my mouse not work
[13:10] <jg_> so now what happend
[13:10] <bazhang> jg_, reload the youtube page now
[13:10] <jg_> ok 2secs
[13:11] <jg_> its still black
[13:11] <jg_> i presed alt f2 then i typed in metacity --replace
[13:11] <jaahii76> laptop acer 3100 mouse and usb not works
[13:11] <joebodo> jg_ what happens if you right click on flash window ?
[13:11] <jg_> where is the flash window
[13:12] <BigMack83> anyone using the pagination module?
[13:12] <joebodo> jg_ where the video is supposed to be
[13:12] <jaahii76> run application?
[13:12] <jg_> oh
[13:12] <bazhang> jg_, what is your native language
[13:12] <jaahii76> finland
[13:12] <jaahii76> ati xpress1100
[13:12] <jg_> i am half turkish half pakistani but live in denmark
[13:13] <jg_> dudes
[13:13] <jaahii76> what write this terminal
[13:13] <jg_> i have to go
[13:13] <jg_> il  be back in 10min
[13:13] <jaahii76> kukaan suomalainen?
[13:14] <gregre> how can i deinstall a binary programm wich i installes by ./name
[13:14] <xukun> I have sony bravia kdl-40w4500 which supports 24p. I think I need to adjust the modlines for xorg.org so the tv do 24p. Anyone an idea?
[13:14] <bazhang> jaahii76, you wish the Finnish channel?
[13:14] <joebodo> gregre try ./name --help
[13:14] <jaahii76> hmm ok
[13:14] <jaahii76> :D
[13:14] <bazhang> #ubuntu-fi jaahii76
[13:16] <ims> jaahii76, Alt+F2 >>Alt+t  >>in terminal Type: sudo shutdown -r now
[13:17] <giaco> what's the "backports" repository?
[13:18] <jpds> !backports | giaco
[13:18] <bazhang> !backports > giaco
[13:18] <humbolt> since when is SHIFT+LeftMouseButton in nautilus not marking the endpoint of a selection, but opening a dir in the dir tree?
[13:18] <Zopiac> i can't get frostwire to work on Jaunty 32bit, i get this error: http://pastebin.com/m462f2f13
[13:19] <Zopiac> im guessing i have the wrong java version, or something
[13:20] <joebodo> Zopiac more like a classpath issue
[13:20] <shesek> anyone known if Adimex's EW-7326Ig (PCI Wifi) should work on ubuntu?
[13:20] <shesek> it seems like they're providing linux drivers
[13:20] <shambat> I like pico/nano but there is no support for extended chars like the scandinavian chars æ ø å ... any command line text editor that supports them?
[13:20] <Zopiac> joebodo: do you know how to go about fixing it?
[13:21] <joebodo> Zopiac is this started by a script ?
[13:21] <Zopiac> joebodo: only by typing 'frostwire' into a terminal
[13:23] <aseemshakuntal> hello
[13:23] <fabzor3> howdy
[13:23] <aseemshakuntal> i am good how do you do
[13:24] <joebodo> Zopiac the app is not able to find the jars needed to run - you could see if frostwire is a script - if so, take a look at it and see if it defines the  location for the jars
[13:24] <shesek> anyone known if Adimex's EW-7326Ig (PCI Wifi) should work on ubuntu?
[13:24] <jg_> hello
[13:24] <jg_> again
[13:24] <jg_> i need help
[13:24] <Zopiac> joebodo: what do you mean, like, look at the /usr/bin/frostwire folder?
[13:24] <Zopiac> er, file
[13:24] <jg_> hello
[13:24] <jg_> i need help
[13:25] <joebodo> Zopiac - type: 'which frostwire' - that will show the location of the command
[13:25] <jg_> why cant i extract rar files
[13:25] <salil__> jg, repeat your question
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> !unrar | jg_
[13:25] <rski> jg_: because you haven't learned yet
[13:25] <Zopiac> joebodo: it is /usr/bin/frostwire, i was just asking
[13:26] <Zopiac> joebodo: it is a script, copying to pastebin....
[13:26] <jg_> Look i downloaded a rar file so it says file archive not supported
[13:26] <joebodo> Zopiac here's a link that shows how to fix the problem you are having: http://forum.frostwire.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6241#p23108
[13:26] <Zopiac> joebodo: http://pastebin.com/m1e39bd3b
[13:27] <jg_> why dosent anyone want to help me
[13:27] <jg_> rski
[13:27] <jg_> rski
[13:27] <discorpia> jg: are you sure the archive is not broken?
[13:27] <jg_> there is written    Could not open "ne94kg_45.rar"
[13:27] <jg_> Archive type not supported.
[13:27] <discorpia> try apt-get install rar
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> jg_:  you install the unrar tools.
[13:28] <jg_> i dont have the unrar tools
[13:28] <jg_> do you have to have them
[13:28] <rski> that's a good idea to have them yes
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> jg_:  they are in the repositories like 99.9999% of the tools you will need.
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> I always install them.
[13:28] <jg_> ok then send me a link
[13:28] <masrukhin> join?
[13:28] <jg_> with tem
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> jg_:  they are in the repositories.. no need to download them from some link. Use the package manager tools to install them
[13:29] <giaco> I'd like to use libgl1-mesa-dri package from karmik because the stable in 9.04 is broken fro my graphic card. How can I download this package and all the dependencies automatically?
[13:29] <jg_> what is repoistories
[13:29] <Zopiac> joebodo: only one problem
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> !repo | jg_
[13:29] <Zopiac> joebodo: the /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh file that i need to edit doesnt exist
[13:29] <jg_> what is that
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> jg_:  they are the main servers/system wher eyou get new programs from.
[13:29] <bazhang> jg_, please read the links given to you
[13:30] <AdvoWork> anyone recommend a network plan/tool(for representing comps/ips) in a graphical way, for ubuntu?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> jg_:  the whole 'package manager' system is oneof the MAIN thints that make linux so much easier then windows.
[13:30] <jg_> I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> jg_:  so fire up synaptic and look for  the 'rar' tools and install them
[13:30] <bazhang> jg_, lose the caps
[13:30] <jg_> I dont understand plz tell me in private
[13:30] <joebodo> zopiac that's not good :) maybe install didnt complete sucessfully ?
[13:31] <salil__> jg_, Please check the links that ubottu gave you.
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> jg_:  time to go read some ubuntu  docs then i guess.  I dont PM. and i dont read docs to people.
[13:31] <bazhang> jg_, read some of the links first
[13:31] <jg_> ok
[13:31] <bart416> AdvoWork, EtherApe
[13:31] <jg_> send some of the links THEN
[13:31] <Zopiac> joebodo: maybe i have to do it before i open it up the first time? idk, it says 'before you run frostwire' in the forum
[13:31] <bazhang> jg_, scroll up
[13:31] <salil__> jg_, ubottu gave you!!
[13:31] <Zopiac> joebodo: im uninstalling/reinstalling it, just in case
[13:32] <joebodo> the install should have created the script -
[13:32] <joebodo> ok
[13:32]  * Dr_Willis counts like 7 links...
[13:32] <jg_> i dont have time to sit and read like a nerd.. i need to know it instant now i h
[13:32] <hemanth> need help on http://pastebin.com/m10a6d322
[13:32] <bazhang> jg_, you need to read. Nothing happens in an instant.
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> 08:30 | Dr_Willis > jg_:  so fire up synaptic and look for  the 'rar' tools and install them
[13:32] <salil__> jg_, ubuntu only for nerds.. :)
[13:32] <Zopiac> jg_: just try to be patient :) help is not always readily available at a touch of a button
[13:32] <jg_> anyway thnx for the help
[13:33] <jg_> i am hacker lol
[13:33] <bazhang> jg_, not here
[13:33] <jg_> lol im jokin
[13:33] <jg_> but ty for help
[13:33] <jg_> cya friends
[13:33] <Zopiac> joebodo: hm, didnt work, and i just installed
[13:33] <jg_> omfg rood people
[13:33] <salil__> lol
[13:34] <raddar> i wonder how old he was
[13:34] <aurilliance> do MS .Net applications work under wine anyone?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  ive heard they can.. but they never do...
[13:34] <bazhang> aurilliance, check the appdb
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  i barely get them to work in windows.. :) (i HATE .net)
[13:34] <bazhang> !appdb > aurilliance
[13:34] <aurilliance> raddar: darn, did I just miss a funny rant/troll/etc ?
[13:34] <aurilliance> ty all 3 :P
[13:34] <raddar> aurilliance yeah
[13:34] <aurilliance> he
[13:34] <aurilliance> *h
[13:35] <Zopiac> joebodo: hm, another post seems credible, ill give it a shot
[13:35] <joebodo> k
[13:35] <adhel> h5j5tj6
[13:37] <seb9r> could someone help me installing the fglrx driver? got several unsolvable problems with it,even after much googling
[13:37] <aurilliance> seb9r: what does the fglrx driver do? OpenGL stuff?
[13:38] <Zopiac> joebodo: oh cool it worked, thanks for the link :D
[13:38] <seb9r> ye its a driver for ati graphic cards
[13:38] <joebodo> excellent
[13:38] <aurilliance> seb9r: ah. sorry, nvidia here ;P
[13:39] <aurilliance> ;( *Has the "blank tty screen" bug... *bump* lol
[13:39] <armagheddonsgw> ok my hard disks are working again, but my dvd drives arent. how do i mount a dvd drive using the sudo mount ______ -o force?
[13:39] <seb9r> well could you maybe tell me why sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesnt work exactly? i just got some questions concerning my keyboard
[13:40] <Titan8990_> !doesntwork | seb9r
[13:40] <bart416> ok, how the hell do you put the kde clock on 24 hours :|
[13:40] <armagheddonsgw> LOL
[13:40] <aurilliance> lol
[13:40] <raddar> i like this 1 !
[13:40] <gastly> lol
[13:41] <aurilliance> bart416: is there any context menu?
[13:41] <armagheddonsgw> yeah ok how do i get my problem fixed? (mounting dvd drives using force)
[13:41] <aurilliance> I remember doing it by right clicking or so
[13:41] <bart416> yeah, but it doesn't have an option for it aurilliance
[13:41] <seb9r> i just mentioned it, i just get some questions concerning my keyboard but not every questions mentioned in the ubuntu wiki
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> bart416:  in time/date settings.. then you ahve to  logout/back in or some how restart the clock - i recall.
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> bart416:  the #kubuntu guys proberly can tell you exactly how
[13:42] <bart416> there is somebody alive over there? :P
[13:42] <seb9r> my xorg.conf is pretty minimal too...i dunno why
[13:42] <seb9r> its just Section "Device"
[13:42] <seb9r> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[13:42] <seb9r> EndSection
[13:42] <seb9r> Section "Monitor"
[13:42] <seb9r> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[13:42] <seb9r> EndSection
[13:42] <FloodBot2> seb9r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> bart416:  i gave up on Kde 4. so no idea.
[13:43] <armagheddonsgw> alright, let me rephrase my problem: whats the terminal command for mounting a dvd drive? (primary)
[13:43] <aurilliance> bart416: yep, alive and kicking here ^
[13:43] <Byron_> bart416, I used to be alive
[13:43] <EdgEy> armagheddonsgw, try /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom0
[13:43] <armagheddonsgw> ok ty
[13:43] <EdgEy> so like mount /wherever /dev/sr0
[13:43] <histolo2> Question: will cannonical upgarade to firefox 3.5 in there repo?
[13:43] <EdgEy> err sorry other way around
[13:44] <aurilliance> histolo2: why is it an issue
[13:44] <aurilliance> ?
[13:44] <lucianogp> anybody noticed in Ubuntu when installing ff-3.5 that window alerts produce the drums sound that usually appears when you have to log in?
[13:44] <armagheddonsgw> uh guys i have a dvd1 and dvd2 in my /dev folder
[13:44] <armagheddonsgw> (2 dvd drives)"
[13:44] <histolo2> I just wanna know should i wait a few days or upgrade thru the mozilla ppa
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> histolo2:  id just wait.
[13:45] <aurilliance> same
[13:45] <aurilliance> (Dr_Willis)
[13:46] <histolo2> So word is it'll be upgraded soon (unlike oo.org where we had to wait to ubuntu 9.04)
[13:46] <seb9r> couldnt someone tell me why my xorg.conf is that minimal and im not able to reconfigure it completly? :o
[13:46] <lucianogp> I read in a blog it's just a couple of days away
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:  the new X versions auto-configure for the most part.
[13:46] <histolo2> ok thanks guys
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:  or use the hal fdi configs for tweaking
[13:47] <seb9r> the problem is that i cant install my ati drivers probably due to that
[13:47] <seb9r> it just says Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[13:47] <seb9r> and installing the driver  just causes my ubuntu not to boot anymore
[13:47] <hemanth> webcam help needed  http://pastebin.com/m10a6d322
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:    ati drivers should auto-configure also automatically. however ATI has dropped many cards from their 'fglrx' drivers.. so you just use the radeon/ati Open sourced driver for those cards now.
[13:48] <seb9r> i have the x850xt which is actually supported
[13:49] <armagheddonsgw> uh guys whats the filesystem for an optical drive?
[13:49] <seb9r> and im just wondering why there isnt a ati entry anywhere if its auto-configured
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> armagheddonsgw:  iso9660 or 'udf' normally
[13:49] <armagheddonsgw> ok
[13:49] <armagheddonsgw> so just sudo mount -t udf <mountpoint> -o force yes?
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:  its  auto configured as X loads.. i have systems with no xorg.conf file at all..   it dosent auto-configure as in 'generates a xorg.conf'
[13:50] <om26er> hi plz tell me is there a way to set my other hardrive to automatically mount at startup
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:  you may want to check the forums for tha texact card.
[13:50] <seb9r> ah alright
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> om26er:  edit /etc/fstab with a proper line for that drive.
[13:50] <seb9r> how can i check if opengl and directcd works?
[13:50] <seb9r> direct3d*
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> !ati | seb9r
[13:51] <armagheddonsgw> ah screw it. ty for the help guys
[13:51] <derek6711> hi
[13:52] <seb9r> i followed all these instructions already and it didnt work
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:  ati drivers are often in a 'unstable' state it seems..
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:  so it mah be the ati drivers/that card/ have issues
[13:52] <derek6711> yes they are
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> one very big reasin i now only use nvidia
[13:52] <zugiart> good evening, everyone!
[13:52] <seb9r> the strange thing is that the driver actually worked about 2 months ago
[13:52] <derek6711> i have a vista that the screen freezes on with an ati graphics card
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:  new X versions.. new atti driver versions....
[13:53] <Johnneylee> Hello, can I get some help with something?
[13:53] <derek6711> depends...