[19:57] <apullz> The usb load is easy, I agree. I have done it before. It's just that my Ubuntu is so buggy atm it says all my ISOs are empty when I know they're not.
[19:57] <pseudorandom> deper29: yes, a regular boot
[19:57] <deper29> pseudorandom: did you delete your kernel?
[19:57] <deper29> that's what it sounds like you may have done. Or moved your kernel
[19:57] <pseudorandom> deper29: no i didn't. i did upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 though
[19:58] <airtonix> joossee: do you want gnome-shell or gnome-classic?
[19:58] <joossee> airtonix, either or i dont care, i just want it to run without crashing
[19:58] <deper29> pseudorandom: do you have a livecd to boot from?
[19:58] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407085/
[19:58] <hkan> reisio: I can reinstall them, it's not the problem. What I'm asking is if Ubuntu can reinstall its required packages automatically?
[19:58] <pseudorandom> deper29: I have gparted livecd only
[19:58] <erictr1ck> i have a very strange issue on an ubuntu 12.04 machine where i cannot make any requests from that machine back to itsself (curl, wget, etc..) though the external domain or ip address. I have seemingly opened up the firewall completely to allow all incoming traffic,  but am still unable to make a connection. Any ideas what could be going on here?
[19:58] <rogan_> hi all, i need help on vlc
[19:58] <reisio> hkan: 'ubuntu-desktop' will require a whole lot of them, yes
[19:58] <Aliekezhi> hi, I have a strange problem : when I open an image, with any program, the session just close automatically as if I was logging out...Any idea where it can come from ? (or what logs to check ?)
[19:59] <gvo> erictr1ck: Normal
[19:59] <airtonix> joossee: well if you want gnome-shell, i'd start with 13.04 desktop then install gnome3 ppa
[19:59] <hkan> reisio: that should do the trick, thanks again :)
[19:59] <erictr1ck> gvo: it is?
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> airtonix, The shell is in the repos ppa's are not supported.
[19:59] <rogan_> i tryed vlc --sin --alsadev:hw:Intel without any succes
[19:59] <deper29> pseudorandom: if you have something you can boot from(like to try ubuntu or something) you can see if your kernel is there or what is up
[19:59] <gvo> erictr1ck: I noticed that a few versions back.
[19:59] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: what's your point?
[19:59] <joossee> airtonix, installing 13.04 is not an option
[20:00] <gvo> erictr1ck: I don't have a reason but just accept it.  I did.
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> airtonix, That is my point, why would they use a ppa?
[20:00]  * joossee will brb
[20:00] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: because it's more up to date? i thought that would be obvious
[20:00] <pseudorandom> deper29: where normally kernel resides?
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> danato: sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.12.0-031200 linux-headers-3.12.0-031200-generic linux-image-3.12.0-031200-generic
[20:00] <deper29> pseudorandom: /boot
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> airtonix, Also possibly problematic, and if so not supported here.
[20:01] <pseudorandom> deper29: oops there's no kernel there... wtf? o_O
[20:01] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: oh so i'm not allowed to help someone with it here then?
[20:01] <deper29> pseudorandom: lol
[20:01] <deper29> pseudorandom: okay, so we need to get you a new kernel then
[20:01] <pseudorandom> deper29: i have a symlink from /vmlinuz to there but there's no kernel....
[20:01] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: you might want to: sudo update-grub                after that to make sure it sets 3.11 as default again
[20:01] <pseudorandom> deper29: yeah, how could I do that?
[20:01] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: will you kick me from the channel if I do ?
[20:01] <Aliekezhi> does someone know how to fix this bug with unity ? the panel on the left appears on the start of session, but then dissapear and doesn't come back....
[20:01] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ok
[20:02] <wheatthin> airtonix, you can do so on your own terms, in a private chat, it just isn't supported via community help
[20:02] <deper29> pseudorandom: are you booted from an Ubuntu live disk?
[20:02] <pseudorandom> deper29: gparted livecd
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> airtonix, That is not the point help, but with informed information  is all.
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> brb
[20:02] <deper29> pseudorandom: I wonder if you could copy its kernel to your ubuntu drive?
[20:03]  * airtonix rols his eyes
[20:03] <wheatthin> otherwise they'll verbally flog you for doing so.
[20:03] <pseudorandom> deper29: i could try that, but would it work? let me try it
[20:03] <deper29> or there's a copy of the kernel online somewhere. let me look
[20:03] <joossee> no change. Gnome still crashes immediately upon trying to add anything to a panel. restarts fine and runs fine until the next time i try to edit deaktop
[20:03] <Aliekezhi> does someone know how to fix this bug with unity ? the panel on the left appears on the start of session, but then dissapear and doesn't come back....
[20:03] <deper29> pseudorandom: no, it wouldn't "just work" to do that
[20:03] <deper29> it's a bit more involved than that :P
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> airtonix, I can't nor would I kick you anyway, and having a attitude is part of using your own subjective opinon on this help, questionable at best.
[20:03] <erictr1ck> gvo: I found the issue because I have a website that is running wordpress and and 'plugin' called RAMP. RAMP is a 'plugin' that pushes content from a staging build to a production build though xmlrpc. however, both builds cannot communicate. this is when i realized that the server cannot do external calls to itsself and am assuming this is the issue. :(
[20:03] <apullz> I have a problem, I'm trying to extract an ISO's files onto a USB. When I mount these ISO's nautilus shows that they are empty, or just a little text file with nothing in it. I have tried to do it through UNETBOOTIN but the result is the same, the only files on the USB after are the text files, or not in some cases. My Ubuntu is very glitchy at the
[20:03] <apullz>  moment.  Any ideas?
[20:04] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: done, thanks
[20:04] <polaco_> como se abre dos sesiones de x en una maquina con diferentes usuarios
[20:04] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: i'm not really sure what you're trying to achieve?
[20:04] <pseudorandom> deper29: i have found something
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> airtonix, An informed user and help.
[20:04] <UUser> hi there
[20:04] <pseudorandom> deper29: i can see that actually these files exist but for some reason gparted livecd command line didn't show them up. perhaps i mounted the file system in a wrong way...
[20:05] <gvo> erictr1ck: Yes, I put an entry in my hosts file pointing my external fqdn to a 192.168.2.xx address to get around that kind of problem.
[20:05] <deper29> pseudorandom: http://goo.gl/GjDFCX
[20:05] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: so according to informed people, what is the supported version number of gnome-shell that is acceptable in this channel
[20:05] <odalmir> olá amigos!
[20:05] <ol-folks> ok guys, while trying to compile xcompmgr-dana i followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1412644 so i could get all the dependency packages and its still saying something about a environment variable?
[20:05] <polaco_> hola odalmir
[20:05] <deper29> pseudorandom: there are a couple of solutions on there. Ignore all of them except the one that involves mounting your drive and apt-get the kernel
[20:06] <deper29> the other solutions are dumb
[20:06] <odalmir> preciso de uma ajuda
[20:06] <polaco_> dime odalmir
[20:06] <odalmir> polaco entende portugues -brasil
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> airtonix, This channel is support for what's in the repos unless there is no other choice, it has always been this way. Your ego is keeping you from some basic cognitive reasoning.
[20:06] <odalmir> ? rs...
[20:06] <abradley> does this error mean that I must install a jre first or that I've done something wrong with the installer? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407106/
[20:06] <Pici> !br | odalmir
[20:06] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: my ego? oh ok.
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> yeah your ego it's obvious
[20:07] <phunyguy> well that escalated quickly.
[20:07] <airtonix> wilee-nilee: you still didn't answer my question/
[20:07] <pseudorandom> deper29: ok i have some kernels
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> GROW UP
[20:07] <odalmir> ok!  vou tentar! gracias!
[20:07] <Pici> wilee-nilee, airtonix: can we drop it please?
[20:07] <zykotick9> !info gnome-shell | airtonix
[20:07] <ol-folks> i notice that i did not get the dependency erorrs the other guy got but i still have that last part he had heres mine http://paste.debian.net/65497/
[20:07] <deper29> pseudorandom: did you chroot your system like that step says?
[20:07] <pseudorandom> deper29: but all are generic, is that ok?
[20:07] <deper29> mounting things and all
[20:07] <pseudorandom> deper29: nope, it turns out i was checking wrong folder, /boot of livecd instead of mounted device
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> Pici, no problem, however is my point on offering a ppa to a user with informing them valid?
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> without*
[20:08] <deper29> pseudorandom: follow that guide up to the chroot
[20:08] <deper29> well, do the chroot as well :P
[20:08] <apullz> I have a problem, I'm trying to extract an ISO's files onto a USB. When I mount these ISO's nautilus shows that they are empty, or just a little text file with nothing in it. I have tried to do it through UNETBOOTIN but the result is the same, the only files on the USB after are the text files, or not in some cases. My Ubuntu is very glitchy at the
[20:08] <apullz>  moment.  Any ideas?
[20:08] <airtonix> zykotick9: :) that's the kind of answer I'm looking for.
[20:09] <Pici> wilee-nilee: As long as you explain that PPAs are unsupported and that we can't really ensure that it won't break their system... yes.
[20:09] <OerHeks> apullz, again: so your download is corrupted, what do you want us to do ?
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> Pici, That was not done and was my point.
[20:09] <zerooneone> i'm looking for the numactl package which is supposed to be in 'main' but it doesn't show up in apt-cache search
[20:09] <apullz> Oerheks, I have been using these ISOs since before Ubuntu
[20:09] <deper29> apullz: are you mounting it properly?
[20:10] <zerooneone> i'm tracking precise
[20:10] <polaco_> i need 2 session xwindows witch 2 users
[20:10] <pseudorandom> deper29: i have kernel, do i still have to follow that guide?
[20:10] <apullz> deper29, I'm on ubuntu forums and i'm not sure now
[20:10] <Richhh> how can i check which graphics card is inside this old OSless PC?
[20:10] <phunyguy> !info numactl precise | zerooneone
[20:10] <apullz> deper29 how would i mount them properly?
[20:11] <deper29> pseudorandom: up until the chroot
[20:11] <phunyguy> zerooneone, is it one of those supported arch's?
[20:11] <apullz> deper29: i've just been using the archive mounter
[20:11] <OerHeks> apullz, you said you downloaded 3 different windows7 iso's and they turn up empty ..
[20:11] <deper29> apullz: I'm wondering what command you used to mount
[20:11] <erictr1ck> gvo: ok, thanks for the suggestion. so i put 184.xxx.xx.xxx  webserver.mydomain.com and restarted apache but still no luck. am i missing something here?
[20:12] <apullz> deper29: i right click and choose archive mounter
[20:12] <apullz> I'm reading about UDF isos now
[20:12] <pseudorandom> deper29: ok done
[20:12] <apullz> oerheks: i downloaded 2 of them a long time ago
[20:12] <deper29> apullz: 'mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt'
[20:12] <gvo> erictr1ck: That's pretty much what worked for me.  I don't run the same software as you however.
[20:12] <deper29> pseudorandom: okay, do 'update-grub'
[20:12] <zerooneone> ubottu: phunyguy yes i'm using amd64
[20:13] <pseudorandom> deper29: "error: failed to get canonical path of aufs"
[20:13] <phunyguy> zerooneone, do you have the universe repo ernabled?
[20:13] <phunyguy> enabled*
[20:13] <phunyguy> because it is not in main.  It is in universe/
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> apullz: deper29: windows iso are udf not iso9660. so: -t udf
[20:14] <irreverant> im getting an error udevd(91) /sbin/modprobe -bv pci:v00000........ 229 te3rminated by signal 9 killed
[20:14] <irreverant> and im at a initramfs prompt
[20:14] <irreverant> what is going on?
[20:14] <deper29> hitsujiTMO, apullz, I did not see it was windows iso, my bad :P
[20:15] <irreverant> so init 5 is gui right? im assumming this is init ram file system?
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, This at boot, a fresh install, a livevd/usb, a post kernel update?
[20:15] <apullz> deper29: hitsujiTMO: I have tried both of those commands, UDF and iso9660. Both of them say "mount: according to mtab /path/to/iso is already mounted on /mnt as loop
[20:15] <irreverant> at boot, after a fresh install from a live cd
[20:15] <zerooneone> ok thanks phunyguy i didn't have universe. coming from debian, i'm not sure what that means so i need to read up a bit
[20:16] <deper29> apullz: so, you've already mounted it
[20:16] <apullz> deper29: hitsujiTMO: I dont see them mounted anywhere
[20:16] <deper29> pseudorandom: hrrmmm
[20:16] <phunyguy> irreverant, did you check the md5 of the iso when you downloaded it?
[20:16] <irreverant> i just did a ls and i see dev root bin etc conf run .....
[20:16] <irreverant> its a good version
[20:16] <phunyguy> that wasn't what I askwed.
[20:16] <phunyguy> asked*
[20:16] <irreverant> used it to load this copy on this computer
[20:16] <irreverant> no i did not
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO> apullz: make sure you're mounting it correctly: if you've already mounted it then you need to unmount it first before trying it again:  sudo mount -t udf -o loop,ro,unhide,uid=$(id -u) /path/to/iso /mount/point
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, Use nicks, check the md5sum of the origonal iso is where I would start.
[20:17] <deper29> pseudorandom: you are chroot'd in?
[20:17] <irreverant> wilee what do you mean?
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> !tab | irreverant
[20:17] <pseudorandom> deper29: nope. actually i'm not sure what's chroot so i think not
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | irreverant
[20:17] <deper29> pseudorandom: did you do all of those mounts I mentioned?
[20:18] <LuNaTiC-7> whats the best programm to use ubuntu within windows installation ?
[20:18] <pseudorandom> deper29: yes
[20:18] <LuNaTiC-7> like vmware etc
[20:18] <phunyguy> irreverant, it just sounds like you had a failure during install, and maybe a bit got flipped.
[20:18] <pseudorandom> deper29: i just didn't do chroot /mnt
[20:18] <deper29> pseudorandom: so you mounted /sys, /proc and /dev accordingly?
[20:18] <phunyguy> it won't tell you it failed, but the file still isn't right.
[20:18] <gvo> erictr1ck: Wait.  Are you not natted?
[20:18] <deper29> do the 'chroot /mnt'
[20:18] <pseudorandom> deper29: like in the guide. ok i will do that too
[20:19] <deper29> then do 'update-grub'
[20:19] <apullz> deper29: hitsujiTMO: that worked thanks
[20:19] <pseudorandom> deper29: chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': exec format error
[20:19] <deper29> hitsujiTMO: you use quite a few options I never use :P
[20:19] <deper29> pseudorandom: wtf
[20:19] <deper29> fine
[20:20] <deper29> let me see
[20:20] <erictr1ck> gvo: im not sure... i only have access to this one server and am now realizing that it is also probably behind a load balancer, which probably opens it up for many other possible issues :(
[20:20] <BluesKaj> LuNaTiC-7:  virtual box works well for windows as a guest on ubuntu
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> deper29: thats just for udf to be absolutely sure for it to work, most of the options shouldn't actually be needed be needed
[20:20] <gvo> erictr1ck: From the command line, do an ifconfig
[20:20] <irreverant> id ont understand how a copy from ubuntu.com that installed this working copy can be bad or turn bad between installations
[20:21] <deper29> pseudorandom: 'chroot /mnt /bin/bash'
[20:21] <gvo> erictr1ck: that's the address you want to put in the hosts file.
[20:21] <erictr1ck> gvo: http://pastebin.com/yr5jEB7G
[20:22] <joossee> airtonix, ok so both fglrxinfo and "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p" return a "BadRequest" .. this means I'm running unity 2d right?
[20:22] <pseudorandom> deper29: just a sec... i'm on it. battery of laptop died i had to restart :/
[20:22] <MoleMan> Is it possible to add a static route for everything above/between <IP_ADDRESS> - <IP_ADDRESS> ? or is it not possible as it's not a proper subnet or whatever?
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, It may be a bad install, it can be a host of other possible varibles, we have to go through these to get to an answer, does that make sense to you?
[20:22] <airtonix> joossee: no idea, i don't use unity or ati cards.
[20:22] <gvo> erictr1ck: PUt <IP_ADDRESS> in the hosts file.
[20:23] <erictr1ck> gvo: AWESOME!!!!!
[20:24] <wolfy1339> how would i remove ubuntu (re-installing later) from a dual-boot with windows 8, i fi cannot boot from usb because of grub (i have uefi)
[20:24] <erictr1ck> gvo: thanks so much, probably just saved me hours upon hours
[20:24] <irreverant> yes
[20:24] <irreverant> wilee-nilee
[20:24] <irreverant> yes it does
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> wolfy1339, Can you boot windows as of now?
[20:24] <gvo> erictr1ck: That's what I'm here for.  ;)
[20:25] <wolfy1339> wilee-nilee, yes i'm in windows right now
[20:26] <pseudorandom> deper29:the same error: Exec format error. i think it might be a bitness issue. my pc is 64 bit (probably ubuntu too) and i am afraid gparted livecd is 32 bits... :/
[20:26] <juniour1> hi
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> wolfy1339, using grub or the windows boot to get there?
[20:26] <Uuser> Hello
[20:26] <deper29> pseudorandom: could be. Why not get a 64-bit livedisk?
[20:26] <wolfy1339> wilee-nilee, umm i don't know... i select the windows boot loader option from the grub boot menu
[20:26] <joossee> grrrr im so frustrated
[20:27] <joossee> and i dont mean sexually
[20:27] <pseudorandom> deper29: i don't have any blank dvds around me, also my computer does not boot from usb :/ i am stuck with that gparted thing
[20:27] <joossee> but.. also that
[20:27] <joossee> pseudorandom, unless you are on a sony or mac you should be able to boot usb...?
[20:28] <deper29> joossee: not true
[20:28] <pseudorandom> joossee: i am on dell inspiron 15r se. in bios i don't see usb as a boot option
[20:28] <Jordan_U> wolfy1339: Why can't you boot from USB? You should be able to remove Ubuntu's UEFI entry and make Windows' default, the just remove your Ubuntu partition.
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> wolfy1339, Ah so from grub to windows, If you can get it to boot windows without grub removing ubuntu can be done with any partitioner including the on board of windows. You might try the ##windows channel if you can't get that windows boot by windows set.
[20:28] <deper29> I have an old compaq that doesn't
[20:28] <deper29> pseudorandom: reboot into the usb
[20:28] <deper29> don't mount anything, I want to try something else
[20:29] <pseudorandom> deper29: i can't, how can i boot into usb? in bios i don't see such option
[20:29] <deper29> pseudorandom: my bad. I meant boot into your gparted disk :P
[20:29] <pseudorandom> deper29: im inside gparted, reboot?
[20:29] <wolfy1339> wilee-nilee, the only way i know of booting windows without grub, is to enable secure boot
[20:29] <deper29> pseudorandom: yeah
[20:30] <joossee> pseudorandom, what happens when you hit F12 during boot?
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> wolfy1339, You get my point though right, to remove ubuntu all you have to do is make sure windows can boot itself, then removal of ubuntu is no biggie.
[20:30] <pseudorandom> joossee: i see a list of devices to choose for booting
[20:30] <joossee> pseudorandom, in dell bios that should bring up your boot otpions.. the option to hit F12 may or may not appear
[20:30] <joossee> pseudorandom, and USB is not an option?
[20:31] <Jordan_U> wolfy1339: wilee-nilee: Secure boot has nothing to do with this as both Windows and Ubuntu support secure boot.
[20:31] <pseudorandom> joossee: no it's not
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, Your missing the point I make, they want to remove ubuntu, I am saying make sure windows boots itself then remove ubuntu.
[20:32] <joossee> pseudorandom, here we are: F12 > Change boot mode setting > Legacy Boot Mode, Secure Boot Off > Yes > F12
[20:32] <joossee> pseudorandom, http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19469063.aspx
[20:32] <UrielVigilant> I deleted a folder called GNUSTEP this will affect my system ?
[20:32] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: Which is exactly what I said earlier :)
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, I did not see that, hehe. ;)
[20:33] <UrielVigilant> GNUSTEP its part of ubuntu 13.10 ?
[20:33] <pseudorandom> joossee: ok i can try that, but give me a sec i'll try what deper29 has in his mind first :)
[20:33] <pseudorandom> deper29: booted into gparted. what now?
[20:33] <Jordan_U> wolfy1339: You can modify UEFI boot entries in GNU/Linux using the tool efibootmgr.
[20:34] <joossee> guys i need help figuring out some display driver stuff... basically I am running Unity in 2D all the time, no matter what I select. also, i have fglrx installed, and it seems to be using it, but fglrxinfo returns a badrequest. i cannot figure out what is going on... :(
[20:34] <wolfy1339> Jordan_U, yes, but what do i do? anyways i found a guide
[20:34] <deper29> pseudorandom: 'sudo mount /dev/sdX /mnt'
[20:34] <deper29> where X is your partition of course
[20:35] <pseudorandom> deper29: yeah
[20:35] <deper29> pseudorandom: 'sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdX
[20:35] <deper29> '
[20:35] <UrielVigilant> gnustep!
[20:35] <deper29> so if you have ubuntu installed on sda1, it would be 'sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda'
[20:35] <pseudorandom> deper29:oh, i tried that before there is an error. let me write it down
[20:36] <deper29> don't put the partition number in there
[20:36] <pseudorandom> hm
[20:36] <pseudorandom> ok
[20:36] <pseudorandom> without number one sec
[20:36] <deper29> just sda
[20:36] <pseudorandom> deper29: installation finished No error reported
[20:36] <pseudorandom> deper29: i will reboot now to see if that worked
[20:37] <deper29> pseudorandom: unmount first
[20:37] <deper29> 'sudo umount /mnt'
[20:37] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: What
[20:37] <deper29> actually, it should probably take care of that on reboot anyway
[20:37] <pseudorandom> deper29: oh, i didn't do that just rebooted. :/ i'll try again if that didnt work
[20:38] <deper29> but you were certain you had kernels in /mnt/boot, yes?
[20:38] <joossee> man where is adamk when you need him!
[20:38] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: Sorry, please pastebin the output of "efibootmgr".
[20:38] <pseudorandom> deper29: yes i was certain and now i just booted into my ubuntu :) thanks a lot!
[20:38] <deper29> pseudorandom: good to hear!
[20:38] <pseudorandom> deper29: or not
[20:38] <deper29> wait
[20:38] <deper29> :(
[20:38] <deper29> what?
[20:38] <joossee> pseudorandom, you might wanna unlock USB booting while its fresh in your mind...
[20:39] <pseudorandom> deper29: ok "the disk drive /tmp' was something but i didn't see the whole message
[20:39] <pseudorandom> it just started
[20:39] <pseudorandom> joossee: actually when usb is attached i see that option. apparently i need to attach usb drive to see it
[20:39] <deper29> pseudorandom: 'dmesg | less'
[20:39] <pseudorandom> deper29: just a sec
[20:39] <deper29> and you can go search for the message
[20:39] <deper29> :)
[20:40] <joossee> pseudorandom, !@#@#$@## of course you do!!
[20:40] <Jordan_U> wolfy1339: Please pastebin the output of "efibootmgr".
[20:40] <pseudorandom> deper29: i will switch to that computer and use paste.ubuntu.com it will be faster :)
[20:40] <wolfy1339> Jordan_U, from where
[20:40] <Jordan_U> wolfy1339: From Ubuntu.
[20:40] <wolfy1339> ok...
[20:40] <deper29> pseudorandom: in that case, 'dmesg | pastebinit' or whatever you use to pastebin stuff
[20:41] <deper29> I'm a wgetpaste kind of guy
[20:41] <Jordan_U> wolfy1339: In fact, since you should should have one on hand in case things go wrong, do it from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB.
[20:41] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407277/
[20:42] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: i searched tmp string there but i couldn't find it
[20:42] <wolfy1339> Jordan_U, ok, i have live-usb
[20:42] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: You're not allowed to help people whose nicks start with the same letter as yours when I've just woken up. It confuses me ;)
[20:43] <joossee> can anyone help me make the "dash home" menu open in under 5 seconds? plz plz plz
[20:43] <deper29> pseudorandom_del: I don't see anythnig bad in this dmesg
[20:43] <deper29> looks good
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, Hehe, I understand. ;)
[20:43] <pseudorandom_del> deper: there was some /tmp partition message. perhaps i should restart the computer to see if that appears again
[20:43] <deper29> pseudorandom_del: do you have /tmp as a separate partition?
[20:44] <geirha> joossee: Get a lightning fast harddrive
[20:44] <joossee> geirha, uhm... RADI 5 over here... and now it open great using the vesa driver...
[20:44] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: well i don't think so. i have such a folder though
[20:44] <geirha> joossee: Ah, a trick question, I see
[20:45] <joossee> geirha, ya BUT vesa no support dual screen so...
[20:45] <joossee> geirha, its a catch 22
[20:45] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407312/ here none of them is /tmp
[20:46] <geirha> joossee: Yeah, the neverending problem with AMD and Nvidia not bothering to support their hardware on linux
[20:46] <joossee> geirha, it gets better: no other DM works properly.. not xfce and not gnome :( :(
[20:46] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: 1st is some boot partition, 2nd actually i don't know what exactly it is perhaps page file equivalent, 3rd my boot partition and 4th windows
[20:46] <joossee> geirha, screw them im not playing vids.. is there a good video card maker for linux??
[20:46] <ovrflw0x> what's name for these dependencies in ubuntu? http://code.google.com/p/trizen/#Dependencies
[20:47] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: i mean probably it is swap partition, without it it wouldn't work, right?
[20:47] <deper29> pseudorandom_del: I didn't have a swap partition on one of my machines and it worked fine. You have 2 boot partitions?
[20:48] <deper29> I did'nt know you had separate partitions. We should have installed grub to the proper partition. Might explain why you had boot issues. fstab might not have been right
[20:48] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: no i don't, why would I have ? if you mean Boot (*) on the last like, i don't know why
[20:49] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: so last one is windows and 3rd one is ubuntu. 1st one is dell recovery and 2nd i have no idea what
[20:49] <deper29> geirha: didn't nvidia just release some new drivers the other day for Linux? 331 I think
[20:49] <geirha> joossee: Haven't paid attention to graphics hardware in years; I just make sure to google the linux support of the graphics hardware before I buy
[20:49] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: you think all is ok now, or there's still some problem? i can run boot info script to show you
[20:49] <Aliekezhi> anyone had problem with unity pannel ?
[20:50] <deper29> pseudorandom_del: sounds like all is okay
[20:50] <deper29> You're booted and not having issues anyway :P
[20:50] <gordonjcp> !details | Aliekezhi
[20:50] <pseudorandom_del> deper29: thanks a lot for helping :)
[20:50] <pseudorandom_del> joossee: and thans for the link, i didn't know i have to attach the usb drive :P (seriously)
[20:50] <joossee> geirha, you know, i thought I'd done that.. :) This FireMV 2250 works well enuff.. just that one bug making me mental.
[20:51] <geirha> deper29: Don't know. Probably for outdated cards
[20:51] <joossee> pseudorandom, np
[20:51] <Aliekezhi> with unity and lastest ubuntu LTS, I have this problem : on start of session I can see a pannel to the left but then it dissapear....
[20:51] <Aliekezhi> gordonjcp,
[20:51] <deper29> pseudorandom_del: no worries
[20:52] <Aliekezhi> ubottu, any idea ?
[20:52] <Aliekezhi> XD
[20:52] <geirha> joossee: Have you found anything on your current issue on google? regarding that specific hardware
[20:53] <Amtrask> Hello all. I am about to set up a media server at my home using some variant of Ubuntu... i'm wondering if there's any reason to pick Ubuntu server over Xubuntu [my preferred desktop distro]? What are the significant differences under the window manager?
[20:53] <rek> hi.... guess what Os i'm running
[20:53] <deper29> Amtrask: if you're making a server, why do you need a window manager?
[20:53] <Amtrask> PS/2?
[20:53] <rek> Dos 6.22 lol
[20:53] <Amtrask> deper29: it's also run videos on it
[20:54] <saliak> I've setup a vpn with pptpd and am able to connect to it with my iPhone.  Once i connect, I can ping my phone's ip address with a computer on my network.  The phone, however, doesn't see my iTunes shares, probably because multicast isn't forwarded from my local network to the vpn segment.   But why do you need a window manager?
[20:54] <rek> the thing is...it's not multitasking at all psdppdppsds
[20:54] <deper29> are you using it as a server to store things on?
[20:55] <joossee> geirha, the stuff i found was jighly conflicting? my first problem was just getting flgrx installed properly, and #ubuntu helped me with that...
[20:55] <deper29> or are you making htpc?
[20:55] <joossee> geirha, then i had to sort the virtual desktop size from stuff related to the quad head version of this, the 2400
[20:55] <Amtrask> deper29 it'll just be network storage, essentially. But I do prefer using GUI where possible...
[20:55] <Aliekezhi> any idea how to fix the bug with unity's pannel (usually displayed on the left)
[20:55] <joossee> .. and #ubuntu had to help me get the symntax right :)
[20:55] <hilarie> Hello! I can't open any internet browser at the moment, when I open firefox, I get the error ** (firefox:2695): ERROR **: Cannot find a safe socket path in '/tmp' among other things, I'd pastebin the whole thing but... I don't have a browser
[20:56] <joossee> so now it mostly works... 2 21' monitors running on DVI from an ancient video card i had to physically bend to fit into the PCIe slot... in a server .. but.. I DID IT MY WAAAAY lol
[20:56] <Jordan_U> wolfy1339: Are you having trouble booting from the LiveUSB and running "efibootmgr"?
[20:57] <Aliekezhi> when I open an image with any program, with any DE (openbox, unity, gnome...), I always get the same bug : the session close....as If I did "logout"...Any idea ?
[20:57] <geirha> joossee: So it could just be the resulting resolution is just too big for it?
[20:57] <Aliekezhi> currently using lastest LTS
[20:57] <joossee> geirha, 3200 x 1200?
[20:57] <deper29> Amtrask: ubuntu server doesnt' have a window manager I don't think
[20:57] <joossee> deper29, i installed ubntu desktop
[20:57] <joossee> pacakage
[20:58] <deper29> if you are just using it for storage, you don't require a window manager. Just mount it on whatever will be using it
[20:58] <joossee> unity is actuall pretty sweet on two monitors
[20:58] <joossee> deper29, vm's
[20:58] <deper29> then use the window manager of whatever you'll be mounting on
[20:58] <Aliekezhi> deper29, when I open an image with any program, with any DE (openbox, unity, gnome...), I always get the same bug : the session close....as If I did "logout"...Any idea ?
[20:59] <joossee> i have 28gb of ram.. not really an issue?
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, You have any ppa's loaded?
[20:59] <deper29> joossee: I was referring to Amtrask :P
[20:59] <geirha> joossee: the graphics cards won't have access to that ram
[20:59] <Amtrask> deper29 I get that... I guess what i'm really asking is "Is there a problem with configuring Xubuntu as a server?" is there some inherent insecurity? The machine will be physically located next to my TV anyway so there's no reason NOT to plug in the HDMI port... so long as I setup the firewall and lock down the server's exposure to the network
[21:00] <joossee> can I bridge three wifi connections to the same netowkr into one superfast one?
[21:00] <deper29> Amtrask: no, should be fine
[21:00] <joossee> geirha, tragically no... i might pickup a better card if I can find the riser.. pciex16 to x8
[21:00] <Amtrask> deper29 thanks!
[21:01] <wolfy1339> ok, ubuntu is gone but grub is still there
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, I ask about ppa's really intrying to get the background leading to this problem, it seems not to have been from the install am I right?
[21:02] <tim-ct> hi all... anyone having hassles wit arcobat and teamviewer  on 13.10
[21:04] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, you mean other repositories than main one ?
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Yes, and any background leading to this problem.
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Any other than ubuntu repos.
[21:05] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, well there is only the main repo enabled
[21:05] <Aliekezhi> I mean the official
[21:05] <Aliekezhi> canonical
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, You have other ubuntu repos in the sources.list you have them off?
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, I see you are on the main server is that what you mean?
[21:07] <ledtc> hello, i cant get my routing sorted out. Ubuntu server behind two routers, and ive set the default gateway to <IP_ADDRESS> but still no internet, the second router has internet cuz it can check for updates. And the ubuntu server can resolve name into ip
[21:07] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ only
[21:07] <AlexPortable> Hi
[21:07] <AlexPortable> How to repair grub?
[21:07] <AlexPortable> I get out of disk error
[21:07] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, with precise and precise-update
[21:07] <AlexPortable> grub> 000000
[21:08] <joossee> ledtc, what port?
[21:08] <wolfy1339> how do i remove grub? i have removed all ubuntu partitions
[21:08] <ledtc> joossee port ? those port should be opend right ?
[21:09] <joossee> ledah, sorry you are trying to connect to the ubuntu server thru the internet and it no workie?
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, run this command and pastebin all the info  grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[21:09] <ledtc> nah im trying to ping google.se from my ubuntu server behind 2 routers, its just wont budge
[21:10] <hydruid> ledtc: can you ping both routers you are behind?
[21:10] <joossee> ledtc, ok this isnt really a #ubuntu problem but i can try to help u
[21:10] <joossee> ^^ hydruid
[21:10] <noize__> Hello, I'm attempting to remove the grid from the login screen and after creating lightdm user, and running the cmd 'gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter draw-grid false' I get this error 'dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create directory '/run/user/1000/dconf': Permission denied.  dconf will not work properly.'
[21:10] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407427/
[21:10] <hydruid> ledtc: assuming that the 1st router is your default gateway, does the far 2nd router have mgnt access so that you can ping to confirm your traffic is being routed to it?
[21:10] <ledtc> cant ping second router
[21:11] <hydruid> ledtc: what kind of network is setup between router A -> B, is it a /30?
[21:11]  * airtonix would really love to have avahi on android
[21:11] <zteam> Hi all!
[21:11] <ledtc> Internet -> Router ->   (Breake Point)   VM(router) -> VM(server)
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Can you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin all of that.
[21:12] <hydruid> ledtc: i bet if you run a traceroute you'll see the traffic die after it hits the router that is your gateway.....sounds more like you have issues between routers not ubuntu
[21:12] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, very strange, in sources.list there are only 3 lines uncommented but the result of your command shows different things
[21:12] <Ari-Yang> can 12.04 packages be installed on 12.10?
[21:12] <hydruid> Ari-Yang: sure
[21:12] <Calinou> they can, but it may sometimes not work
[21:12] <Ari-Yang> hydruid: there won't be any errors or anything?
[21:13] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, if I dist upgrade, I will stop being in LTS, right ?
[21:13] <HaltingState> where is the development channel and security/kernel team channel?
[21:13] <zteam> Sometimes then I boot Ubuntu 13.10 I just get a black screen (no login window) and I have to go to ta TTY and reboot my computer, Xorg doesn't seem to be running either
[21:13] <Ari-Yang> what about 13.04 packages on 12.10?
[21:13] <w0otness> looks like i have the same problem being discussed, Hash Sum Mismatch. Tried what most of google has found.
[21:13] <hydruid> Ari-Yang: every package is different but the basic ones sure no problem......if you start talking about specific system libraries things can go bad
[21:13] <Calinou> dist-upgrade is not version upgrading, don't mix it
[21:13] <bluetazmanian> has anyone had any issue with the graphic card after upgrade to 13.10?
[21:13] <Ari-Yang> hydruid: specifically packages that deal with mesa
[21:13] <Calinou> not here, bluetazmanian
[21:13] <Calinou> ask your question directly! don't do polls
[21:13] <zteam> I'm using the Nvidida driver on a Geforece 8800 G
[21:13] <PDilyard> is there a way i can copy all the packages and settings from one ubuntu install to another?
[21:14] <hydruid> Ari-Yang: will probably be fine but it's always good to do a system image / backup just to make sure :P
[21:14] <bluetazmanian> ok, thanks
[21:14] <hydruid> PDilyard: are the machines the same model?
[21:14] <Ari-Yang> hydruid: kk, thanks... do you know if it's possible to add a 12.04 ppa to 12.10?
[21:15] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407452/
[21:15] <zteam> PDilyard, you can clone the entire / partition if you want to
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, No that command is within the release.
[21:15] <hydruid> Ari-Yang: that is a whole other situation, usually those are version specific
[21:15] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, nothing to update/upgrade
[21:15] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407452/
[21:15] <hydruid> Ari-Yang: but it boils down to that every package is different
[21:15] <zteam> anybody has any clues, for my black-screen issues?
[21:15] <Ari-Yang> hydruid: right, so then I'll just d/l the .deb package contents
[21:16] <hydruid> Ari-Yang: but usually if it's going to bork your system it will give you an error first
[21:16] <PDilyard> hydruid. zteam: they are not the same model...but all i want is basically an automatically compiled list of apt-get commands to run to install all the same packages
[21:17] <hydruid> PDilyard: could do a dpkg --list > packages on both machines and then diff the differences......
[21:17] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, should I post something to ubuntu bugzilla ? any idea what log I could check to see where this comes from ? could be linked with graphic drivers ?
[21:17] <w0otness> apt-get update gives this: W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/au.archive.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[21:17] <yeats> w0otness: try a different mirror?
[21:17] <brontosaurusrex> PDilyard, google for "dpkg --get-selections"
[21:17] <PDilyard> ok
[21:18] <zteam> PDilyard, okey there is a tool called apt-clone avaiable in the repository, try that :-)
[21:18] <PDilyard> zteam: sweet
[21:18] <ledtc> hydruid, that would be impossible as traceroute is a download package
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, I was just making sure you have all the repos you should have and that they are open, it was hard to tell from your responses, you do have an extra the google one, however it should not be attached to this crashing. Can you give any background that leads to this crashing of all these desktops, it seems it was working at one time, am I right here?
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Graphic driver is a question for sure.
[21:19] <hydruid> ledtc: lol good point.....well it all depends on your situation. if the ubuntu box is the only one that not working it might be an ubuntu issue, but it sounds like it's a router issue
[21:19] <Grimm_> hey , quick question about the installation of linux on my wife's pc. She has a asus EEE pc 1000 with 2gig of DDR2 ram , how much SWAP should i give it ?
[21:19] <zteam> PDilyard, :-)
[21:20] <hydruid> Grimm_: how big is the drive?
[21:20] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, well, I can't actually tell you since when this bug started.The bug can be reproduced by launching an image with any program (eye of gnome, gthumb...) with any DE (gnome, openbox or unity)
[21:20] <Grimm_> the hard drive is about 160gig , and 50 of that has a windows xp installed
[21:20] <brontosaurusrex> Grimm_, twice the ram is usual recommendation irc
[21:20] <hydruid> Grimm_: give it 2-4GB.....
[21:21] <Grimm_> alright great :) I was thinking for a moment 8 gig 'to play safe' , but that seemed like such a n00b move that i tought to come and ask :D
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Image being a jpg..etc?
[21:21] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, yes JPG
[21:22] <Grimm_> and mount point for linux should be ok on just ' / ' ?
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, what about with the stock image viewer?
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> opr shotwell
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> or*
[21:23] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, is there a syntax to save the logs with an imagedisplayer ? like "eog blabla.jpg >> blabla.txt" or something like this ?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, what about with the stock image viewer or shotwell?
[21:23] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, hum, what is this ?
[21:23] <AlexPortable> hi ?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Thaose are installed image viewers
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, right click any image and choose those.
[21:24] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, shotwell create same issue
[21:25] <Grimm_> is it ok if the swap partition is Logical ?
[21:25] <Jordan_U> Grimm_: Yes.
[21:25] <Grimm_> the linux partition , i toke primary , ext4 , mount point /
[21:26] <Jordan_U> Grimm_: Any of your linux partitons can be logical.
[21:26] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, "[  4966.025] [mi] EQ overflow continuing.  100 events have been dropped." in my xorg.0.log Do you think it's linked ?
[21:26] <Grimm_> allright , i should actually just look up what it means ...
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, I have to wonder if you have just installed some apps that are causing this conflict, just a guess though. I have the feeling you are a new user from your responses, and may have just borked the setup, rather then there being any actual bugs, or there is a graphic driver problem, kinda a issue of many possible varibles.
[21:26] <Grimm_> but so much to do and just 24 hours for the only version of me to do everything  :(
[21:26] <Grimm_> a day that is , luckely
[21:27] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, actually I'm a gentoo user, and this is not my computer.
[21:27] <deper29> Aliekezhi: +1 for Gentoo :D
[21:27] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, but I see a lot of different bugs there which is seem to appear since last update
[21:28] <Aliekezhi> as every time I use an ubuntu....
[21:28] <Aliekezhi> but anyway it's not my computer and I must fix this
[21:28] <deper29> Aliekezhi: what is your issue?
[21:28] <Aliekezhi> I'd like to have an idea of what log or what to check
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Ah, Ubuntu is different than gentoo as far as building the OS, could this have been a gentoo approach to ubuntu possibly?
[21:28] <Grimm_> hey guys , thanks again !
[21:29] <Aliekezhi> deper29, session logout everytime I open an image with any program (tried with 3 of them) and any DE (tried also 3 of them)
[21:29] <deper29> Aliekezhi: you could try asking in #gentoo
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Anyway this is beyond my ability to really help you fix.
[21:30] <deper29> that seems strange :S
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> deper29, This is a ubuntu install.
[21:30] <Aliekezhi> deper29, tried with eye of gnome, gthumb and shotwell, and gnome3, unity and openbox => always the same bug
[21:30] <deper29> wilee-nilee: ahh, I see
[21:30] <Aliekezhi> deper29, well it seems it's more an ubuntu related problem....
[21:30] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, ok thx.I'll try to post details on ubuntu bugzilla
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, Probably the best option, best of luck on this. ;)
[21:31] <Aliekezhi> wilee-nilee, thx :)
[21:40] <zteam> Is there any ppa avaiable which updates the Nvidia-driver?
[21:41] <zteam> for Ubuntu 13.10?
[21:44] <Ari-Yang> !ppa nvidia
[21:44] <Ari-Yang> !package nvidia
[21:44] <Ari-Yang> !repository
[21:44] <yeats> zteam: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+packages might be what you're after
[21:44] <yeats> !ppa | zteam
[21:45] <zteam> yeats, thanks
[21:46] <zteam> I having issues with black-screen in Ubuntu 13.10, and I assume it to be related to the nvidia.driver
[21:46] <Ari-Yang> zteam: might be.... or 13.10 is just buggy
[21:46] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i need some help so i have been having trouble with a new kernel i got via dist-upgrade and i posted the bug to launchpad.net and i gota response that said to try the mainline kernel build (as it states https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250298)
[21:46] <Psil0Cybin> which version would i need to download or is the person refering too
[21:47] <Psil0Cybin> my launchpad post was the following : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250298
[21:47] <zteam> Ari-Yang, works pretty good for me except for this stupid bug, but this bug was present in Ubuntu 13.04 as well
[21:47] <Ari-Yang> !nomodset | Psil0Cybin
[21:47] <Psil0Cybin> someone suggest for me to " Please test the latest v3.12 kernel[0]"
[21:47] <Psil0Cybin> I used nomodset it dod not work
[21:48] <Psil0Cybin> and isnt it nomodeset
[21:48] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[21:49] <auronandace> !mainline | Psil0Cybin
[21:49] <duxb> Anybody use phpmyadmin under 13.10?
[21:49] <Psil0Cybin> oh so all a mainline build would tell me is what is causing the problem? It woudl not be a more up to date fixed kernel?
[21:51] <GameCodeTrainer> [16:48:21] <Ari-Yang> zteam: are you using open source or proprietary?
[21:51] <GameCodeTrainer> [16:48:37] <Ari-Yang> go to software sources and go to the 'additional drivers' tab
[21:51] <duxb> In phpmyadmin under 13.10, is it normal to now have little '!'s in little red circles next to all your database names on the left hand side?
[21:53] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys is this the most up to date kernel
[21:53] <Psil0Cybin> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/current/
[21:53] <Psil0Cybin> ? i am confused at what mainline kernel i am supposed to test
[21:53] <duxb> also, it says that mcrypt extension is missing, but I checked, and it's installed
[21:54] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: doesn't really matter, does it? The point is to test kernels other than what you've got that presumably doesn't work
[21:55] <Psil0Cybin> reisio: well i have a bunch of kernels that work for me that are out of date what i am trying to do is have up to date kernel or have the most recent one i can have
[21:55] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[21:55] <yeats> !mainline
[21:55] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: with that ppa, you can download and install kernels
[21:55] <Psil0Cybin> so i am just confused about version numbers because it says i have kernel <IP_ADDRESS> but im supposed to try out 3.12?
[21:55] <yeats> ah, I see auronandace already shared that ;-)
[21:56] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-trusty/
[21:56] <Psil0Cybin> yea thats the one he linked me to try out
[21:56] <Psil0Cybin> is that a recent one? why would the version number be lower then the one i have now
[21:56] <yeats> Psil0Cybin: 3.12 > 3.2
[21:56] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: click the dang link I just linked you
[21:56] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: I knows
[21:56] <Ari-Yang> if you're on a 64bit download the headers amd64, the headers all, and the image amd64
[21:57] <Ari-Yang> ^ Psil0Cybin
[21:57] <Ari-Yang> then put it all into a folder, open terminal, cd into the folder and run sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[21:57] <Psil0Cybin> kk im on 32bit so i will get the 32bit one for intel
[21:57] <Psil0Cybin> thank you Ari-Yang.
[21:57] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: yes, get the headers i386, the headers all, and the image i386
[21:57] <Psil0Cybin> I was just confused because the version number was 3.12 and i had 3.2
[21:57] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[21:57] <Psil0Cybin> thank you and im guessing if all else fails i can always fall back to my current working kernel?
[21:57] <Psil0Cybin> correct?
[21:58] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: yes, just boot into it using GRUB
[21:58] <Ari-Yang> (hold shift key on boot)
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> perfect. thank you Ari-Yang sorry for being so slow at learning!
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> it was just the version numbers that threw me off
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> i thought i was going back in time!
[21:58] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: no worries, good luck
[22:00] <fobo> hello i got a problem ... i deaktived networkmanager and do a reboot but if i type in terminal sudo modprobe -r rt2x00sta is the module in use??? anybody can help?
[22:02] <mmhun> does anyone have any suggestions about what ftp server to run?
[22:07] <reisio> mmhun: sshd
[22:07] <mmhun> reisio: not if I actually want to host files...
[22:08] <reisio> mmhun: you don't care about transfer security?
[22:08] <mmhun> sftp
[22:09]  * Ritchie__ ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.9.6 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz (3.00 GHz) ** RAM: 8160 MB Total (3995 MB Free) ** VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 ** Uptime: 27.83 Hours **
[22:10] <Harmageddon> Hi! I was here a few days ago to solve a graphics error during ubuntu installation (worked with the "nomodeset" option). This worked fine for the installation and first start, but now, when I start Ubuntu, a window shows during boot, saying "The system is running in low-graphics mode."
[22:11] <Harmageddon> "Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself"
[22:11] <rndm> is there a concise guide to removing the myriad of ads in unity
[22:11] <rndm> 13.10
[22:11] <aarobc_wrk> Hi guys. So I actually really like unity and I want to keep using it. I've heard there are these window managers called tiling window managers that make it so working with a lot of windows on a screen is much more streamlined. Is there some way to get something like that to play nice with ubuntu?
[22:12] <shrimpy> Hi aarobc_wrk, yes there is, but it's not very easy
[22:12] <shrimpy> Sounds like you want to keep using Unity but have it use a tiling WM?
[22:12] <aarobc_wrk> I started writing something that would do that using wmctrl, but I'm realizing it's a lot bigger undertaking so I was curious if there was something already written
[22:13] <Harmageddon> when I select "run in low-graphics mode for just one session", there's a new window telling me to wait one minute while the screen restarts. When I press ok in this window, I'm back to the ubuntu boot screen, the red dots are going on and on, but I'm not getting any further.
[22:13] <Ari-Yang> aarobc_wrk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager#List_of_tiling_window_managers_for_X
[22:13] <aarobc_wrk> Ari-Yang: thanks, will check it out
[22:15] <seisku> ey
[22:15] <shrimpy> aarobc_wrk, if you are using 12.04, you can use the Unity panel with the WM of your choice.
[22:15] <Psil0Cybin> Air-Yang:
[22:15] <Psil0Cybin> i have a problem
[22:16] <shrimpy> (Unity2d panel, I should say)
[22:16] <seisku> oh no
[22:16] <aarobc_wrk> shrimpy: using 13.10 because I like the better multi-monitor support
[22:16] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/nE5xGHee
[22:17] <shrimpy> aarobc_wrk, then Im afraid I dont know of any way to use the Unity panel at the same time as a tiling wm.
[22:18] <aarobc_wrk> shrimpy: in that case I will write my own
[22:18] <shrimpy> aarobc_wrk, oh, there are plenty of good panels to choose from. I just thought you said you wanted to continue using Unity.
[22:19] <aarobc_wrk> shrimpy: yeah, I just wanted something that will play nice with unity
[22:21] <shrimpy> Okay. Well my personal recommendation for tiling wm is dwm from suckless.
[22:21] <shrimpy> especially if you have any C programming experience
[22:21] <UrielVigilant> I had a folder called GNUstep and i deleted it . Could it make it Ubuntu 13.10 unstable ?
[22:23] <william1> When I run update-grub it changes the root in the menu entry to a UUID.  I would like this to be /dev/xvda and not change when I do a dist-upgrade.
[22:24] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys
[22:24] <Psil0Cybin> i installed the new kernel upgrade
[22:24] <Psil0Cybin> with the header and im getting this
[22:24] <Psil0Cybin> after i installed the headers http://pastebin.com/wDhkxQGF
[22:25] <Ari-Yang> Psil0Cybin: you aren't opening the .deb packages one by one are you? you're installing them right after each other with sudo dpkg *.deb
[22:25] <Psil0Cybin> Air-Yang, reisio, yeats: ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.12.0-031200-generic is not supported
[22:25] <Psil0Cybin> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.12.0-031200-generic (i686)
[22:25] <Psil0Cybin> Consult /var/lib/dkms/cedarview-drm/20120717/build/make.log for more information.
[22:25] <Ari-Yang> did you open it?
[22:25] <Ari-Yang> and pastebin it...
[22:25] <Ari-Yang> did you use dkms to install a module or something?
[22:28] <Junka> should i go for 64 or 32 bit
[22:28] <Rory> Junka: Generally if your computer is 64-bit you should install 64-bit, especially if you have 4GiB of RAM or more
[22:28] <Ari-Yang> Junka: uhhh... whatever system you have, you should install the appropriate OS...
[22:29] <Junka> I got only 2Gb of ram
[22:29] <reisio> Junka: irrelevant
[22:29] <reisio> Junka: 64 bit proc, 64 bit OS
[22:30] <Junka> I sometimes feel like my system hangs, possibly because it swaps? I do not know
[22:31] <shrimpy> Junka: this might help: http://linuxforcynics.com/how-to/which-architecture
[22:31] <reisio> when dealing with finite resources, you're always going to run out
[22:32] <reisio> shrimpy: Junka: ignore that link, it's crap
[22:32] <Junka> It does not help me
[22:33] <reisio> no it doesn't
[22:33] <shrimpy> resisio, Junka, maybe I misunderstood your question
[22:33] <reisio> shrimpy: well he wants help with "hanging" now
[22:33] <reisio> but finding some random blogger's explanation of his original 64 vs 32 bit questions doesn't mean you understand it
[22:33] <reisio> question*
[22:34] <shrimpy> reisio. Oh, I was still on the 64 vs 32 bit question.
[22:34] <reisio> I knowses :)
[22:34] <shrimpy> lol, goodluck with the "hanging"
[22:34] <Junka> it is sort of freezing
[22:34] <Junka> or something
[22:34] <reisio> perhaps you've...
[22:34] <reisio> opened a website using Flash :p
[22:35] <Junka> yeah and firefox is quite heavy
[22:35] <Junka> lots of ram
[22:35] <william1> Speaking of flash, anyone check out pipelight?  Been using it to watch NetFlix and Comcast videos.
[22:36] <Junka> 64 bit should be faster though not slower
[22:36] <reisio> mmhmmm
[22:36] <reisio> makes netflix happen :)
[22:36] <swcdx> what
[22:36] <reisio> Junka: it's not to do with your arch
[22:36] <swcdx> netflix on ubuntu
[22:36] <swcdx> what
[22:36] <william1> swcdx: well I am using Debian, but yes NetFlix on Linux with pipelight
[22:37] <reisio> Theycallmejzero: sup jzero
[22:37] <william1> It runs silverlight in wine and pipes the video to your native Linux browser.
[22:37] <swcdx> i am assuming it will work with ubuntu?
[22:37] <reisio> it works with anything
[22:37] <reisio> uses Wine
[22:37] <william1> swcdx: works with everything even Gentoo.
[22:37] <william1> It is better than the netflix-desktop as it uses your Linux browser not like before for it used the wine browser.
[22:38] <swcdx> great i am putting my daughter back on ubuntu
[22:38] <MoleMan> Is it possible to add a static route for everything above/between <IP_ADDRESS> - <IP_ADDRESS> ? or is it not possible as it's not a proper subnet or whatever?
[22:38] <william1> I get ever slight jutter and I am using an atom processor.
[22:38] <Junka> reisio so should i go with 64bit after all?
[22:38] <reisio> swcdx: heheh, exactly
[22:38] <reisio> Junka: if your proc is 64-bit, yes
[22:39] <Junka> ok thanks
[22:39] <william1> There really is no 32 bit vs 64 bit anymore.  The only problem with 64 bit YEARS ago was driver support.
[22:39] <reisio> I don't recall there ever being a problem :p
[22:39]  * MoleMan does
[22:39] <reisio> especially not compared to other OSes
[22:40] <MoleMan> although less so with linux, more windows
[22:40] <reisio> GNU/Linux was out in front
[22:40] <reisio> as ever
[22:42] <william1> Also the guys at pipelight are even making a plugin for shockwave:)
[22:42] <Aliekezhi> is 3.8 kernel considered as unstable on ubuntu ? with ubuntu precise LTS I have 3.2 kernel by default
[22:43] <Junka> mate desktop is lighter than xfce?
[22:43] <Nothing_Much> xfce is lighter
[22:43] <Nothing_Much> mate is outdated
[22:43] <zerowaitstate> Aliekezhi: I am using 13.10 and my kernel version (stable) is 3.11
[22:43] <Nothing_Much> Junka:
[22:43] <shwaiil> Hi
[22:44] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, how to display what ubuntu version I'm currently using ?
[22:44] <zerowaitstate> precise is 12.04
[22:44] <Rory> Aliekezhi: run the command "cat /etc/issue"
[22:45] <shwaiil> Q: I'm on 12.04 LTS and I'd like to upgrade PHP. Currently using 5.3.10 and I'd like at least 5.3.27! Is apt-get update and apt-get upgrade the way to do it ? Should I backup my php.ini ? Thanks for looking!
[22:45] <estudiante> Franco Dominguez
[22:45] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, 3.8 is in the list but not installed by default
[22:45] <pirret> Aliekezhi: lsb_release -a
[22:45] <Aliekezhi> Rory, thx for the tip
[22:46] <william1> shwaiil: the php package that Ubuntu has should have all the security fixes in the latest 5.3.X...
[22:46] <Aliekezhi> Rory, pirret, zerowaitstate : I have a srange bug maybe one of you could have an idea : if I open an image with any image viewer and any DE, the session logs out...but if I open an image with the command "display" the bug doesn't produce.Any idea what this could be linked with ?
[22:47] <zerowaitstate> sounds like your X.org is segfaulting
[22:48] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, [  4966.025] [mi] EQ overflow continuing.  100 events have been dropped.
[22:48] <Aliekezhi> and others in xorg.0.log
[22:48] <Aliekezhi> I can paste my whole xorg.0.log
[22:48] <zerowaitstate> paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[22:49] <zerowaitstate> it's probably a driver issue
[22:51] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407894/
[22:51] <lonewulf85> My conky app says that i do not have swap in ubuntu 12.04
[22:51] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, oh sorry looks like it didn't take all the lines
[22:52] <zerowaitstate> dump the end of the file
[22:52] <Aliekezhi> what program I could use to paste ? it seems wgetpaste is not on ubuntu default repos
[22:52] <trism> Aliekezhi: pastebinit
[22:52] <buu> Aliekezhi: apt-cache search paste
[22:53] <shwaiil> william1, thanks for looking! I've done a penetration test on my server and it claims 5.3.10 should be upgraded to at least 5.3.27
[22:54] <shwaiil> I tried apt-get update, install or upgrade and I still have 5.3.10
[22:54] <william1> shwaiil: it may not understand how a backport works from an upstream source.
[22:55] <shwaiil> william1, sorry you lost me. You mean the version 5.3.10 on 12.04 LTS have fixed the vulnerabilities ?
[22:55] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407909/
[22:56] <william1> shwaiil: It should.  It will keep it's stable number like 5.3.10 and backport just the security fixes from the 5.3 branch of php.  Let me see if I can find you something that shows you that.
[22:57] <Aliekezhi> "[  4965.605] [mi] EQ overflowing.  Additional events will be discarded until existing events are processed." and all the lines under seems to be related to my problem
[22:57] <Aliekezhi> and backtrace...
[22:57] <shwaiil> william1, thanks a lot for your support! By the way, how can I have a look on what versions of software I can get from my Ubuntu version choice ? Not sure if this is the PPA people talk about
[22:57] <Aliekezhi> looks like kernel/xorg crash
[22:58] <william1> shwaiil: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/p/php5/php5_5.3.10-1ubuntu3.8/changelog
[22:58] <zerowaitstate> the kernel didn't crash, Xorg did
[22:59] <zerowaitstate> otherwise your system would have hung
[22:59] <shwaiil> william1, thanks a lot! So, my penetration test asked me to upgrade to 5.3.27, in my case I did apt-get update and that's enought right ?
[23:00] <william1> shwaiil: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[23:00] <shwaiil> william1, should I care about backing up my configuration files ? such as apache, php, mysql
[23:00] <zerowaitstate> Aliekezhi: what does lspci show?
[23:01] <shwaiil> or it's safe to run those commands without having to ? I know ubuntu, or apparently warns me about conflicts
[23:01] <william1> shwaiil: it is safer than not sticking with the native packages.  Upstream sometimes changes more than they should within a branch which is why Ubuntu and other major distros backport just real fixes.
[23:02] <shwaiil> william1, thanks so much for your help;)
[23:02] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, lspci : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407935/
[23:02] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, currently using kernel 3.2
[23:02] <william1> you're welcome shwaiil
[23:05] <utahcon> I've got an Ubuntu 12.04LTS server that apt-get install apache2 says it installs but I get no /etc/apache2 directory created
[23:05] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, seems really similar to my bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1210397
[23:06] <Aliekezhi> :D
[23:07] <zerowaitstate> Aliekezhi, you're right, it does look very similar.
[23:07] <zerowaitstate> backtrace matches
[23:10] <zerowaitstate> you gonna try the fix mentioned?
[23:10] <lonewulf85> brightness does not go down when I tell it to ubuntu12.04
[23:14] <Aliekezhi> zerowaitstate, I'm going to try first a newer kernel.does linux-image is enough or should I need some headers or other packages ?
[23:16] <zerowaitstate> I would grab the headers, and build-essential
[23:19] <coyote> coyote
[23:21] <Anonynimity> how would I download lib32ncurses5 in ubuntu 13.10?
[23:22] <Anonynimity> I need that, ia32-libs lib32z-dev, lib32readline-gplv2-dev lib32readline5, lib32readline6 and lib32bz2-dev on 13.10
[23:27] <key> hi there
[23:32] <Laban> Hello
[23:32] <Laban> In Unity, how can I remove certain pictures or recent documents from the scope/lens/unity-menu?
[23:32] <xstefen> pr0n?
[23:33] <Laban> Exactly.
[23:33] <Laban> What else? :)
[23:33] <xstefen> :D I have the same issue lol
[23:34] <IdleOne> I am not certain about this but I believe that if you put your files/media in hidden directories by add a . (dot) to the start of the directory name, they won't be shown in the scopes
[23:34] <xstefen> I seem to remember reading that somewhere also
[23:35] <Laban> Yeah but that's a hassle
[23:35] <Laban> Who hides their porn anyways?
[23:35] <jmgk> heh
[23:35] <AceBlade258> where should i do for help with a RAID
[23:35] <AceBlade258> *go
[23:35] <Laban> In an MMORPG Guild! :D
[23:36] <Laban> Naah... Whatcha' need?
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> Laban, go to privacy and turn off and clear the history.
[23:36] <IdleOne> Laban: you just asked how to. Also please be helpful and lets try and keep this channel family friendly.
[23:36] <Laban> Thanks. And yes, I'll behave. Sorry.
[23:37] <AceBlade258> I have an RAID 5 array that dropped a disk for some reason
[23:37] <xstefen> Family friendly... Miley Cyrus is worse than pr0n :\
[23:37] <xstefen> Jk, g'day sirs
[23:37] <AceBlade258> and I can't get it to add
[23:40] <Anonynimity> Laban - Create a new user account dedicated to that specific activity.
[23:41] <Anonynimity> then clear your unity lens history
[23:41] <AceBlade258> http://pastebin.com/f4sjYHxD - output from mdadm -M for each device
[23:41] <Anonynimity> go to system settings > privacy, and clean what you need
[23:42] <Laban> That's creative. :) What wilee-nilee suggested worked fine. Also found the folders not to record activity from which is good.
[23:42] <Anonynimity> to keep recent files turn off Record Activity
[23:42] <Anonynimity> from appearing***
[23:42] <Anonynimity> then click Delete History
[23:43] <Aliekezhi> is precise the lastest LTS version ?
[23:43] <Anonynimity> how would I download lib32ncurses5 in ubuntu 13.10?
[23:43] <Anonynimity> I need that, ia32-libs lib32z-dev, lib32readline-gplv2-dev lib32readline5, lib32readline6 and lib32bz2-dev on 13.10
[23:43] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Yes.
[23:44] <Aliekezhi> :(
[23:44] <AceBlade258> http://pastebin.com/UH6AmhQg - output from mdadm --details
[23:45] <Anonynimity> I believe it is Aliekezhi
[23:45] <Laban> So the system finds the hdd... but just won't attach it to the array?
[23:46] <Aliekezhi> Anonynimity,  ???
[23:46] <Anonynimity> I believe 12.04 is the newest LTS so far
[23:46] <Anonynimity> I know 13.04 is a STL, as is 13.10
[23:46] <Laban> AceBlade258: sdg seems to think that it is attached (or so I would interpret the array state at least)
[23:46] <AceBlade258> it's there
[23:47] <Aliekezhi> Anonynimity, well the bug report automatic message told me stopped being under devlopement
[23:47] <AceBlade258> i can hit it with a dd test
[23:47] <AceBlade258> it just won't add it...
[23:47] <Anonynimity> yes, 13.10 is no longer under dev, but it is still an STL
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> Laban, I use the shell rather than unity, but that privacy history is the first thing I turn off none the less, it keeps the dash from having just stuff not needed in general by me.
[23:47] <Anonynimity> until April (I think)
[23:47] <Aliekezhi> Anonynimity, so I can upgrade to a more recent LTS ? I'm using 12.04
[23:48] <Anonynimity> I dont think there are any more current LTS' right now
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> Aliekezhi, next lts is 14.04 about 5 months from release.
[23:48] <bekks> Aliekezhi: In April 2014, you can. Until then, you cant.
[23:49] <Aliekezhi> Anonynimity, 13.10 is LTS ? I'm using 12.04 and full of bugs, should I upgrade to 13.10 ?
[23:49] <agora> no 13.10 is not lts
[23:49] <Anonynimity> no 13.10 is a S.T.L
[23:49] <Aliekezhi> if I post bug reports for LTS, will it be usefull ?
[23:49] <Anonynimity> S.T.S** - Short Term
[23:49] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Sure.
[23:49] <agora> yep
[23:50] <Aliekezhi> memory got full and start swapping then xorg crash...can it be linked ?
[23:50] <Anonynimity> Yes, it can.
[23:51] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Then you are exhausting your RAM - and you need more RAM.
[23:51] <Anonynimity> I'm trying to follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274692
[23:51] <Aliekezhi> bekks, the strange thing is that there was not more RAM than this since several years and it didn't crash....
[23:51] <Anonynimity> I am running ubuntu 13.10, but I cannot find some of the following packages: git-core gnupg flex bison gperf build-essential zip curl zlib1g-dev zlib1g-dev:i386 libc6-dev lib32ncurses5-dev ia32-libs x11proto-core-dev libx11-dev:i386 libreadline6-dev:i386 lib32z-dev libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-dev g++-multilib mingw32 tofrodos python-markdown libxml2-utils xsltproc readline-common libreadline6-dev libreadline6 lib32readline-gplv2-dev libncurses
[23:51] <Anonynimity> 5-dev lib32readline5 lib32readline6 libreadline-dev libreadline6-dev:i386 libreadline6:i386 bzip2 libbz2-dev libbz2-1.0 libghc-bzlib-dev lib32bz2-dev libsdl1.2-dev libesd0-dev squashfs-tools pngcrush schedtool libwxgtk2.8-dev python
[23:51] <FloodBot1> Anonynimity: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:51] <Anonynimity> can anyone help me with this issue, please?
[23:52] <Rhomber> hey guys, what is the best recommended USB sound card for SPDIF/optical?
[23:52] <agora> anonynimity none of them are in the repos?
[23:52] <Rhomber> I have had probs with the sound blaster extigy and don't want to make a mistake getting a dud again :(
[23:52] <bekks> Aliekezhi: Then investiagte whats going on on your system.
[23:52] <Aliekezhi> Rhomber, there are a lot of USB sound cards with SPDIF....
[23:53] <bekks> Aliekezhi: investigate even.
[23:53] <Anonynimity> I know for a fact that lib32ncurses5 and "" - dev; lib32ncurses6 and --dev ; ia32-libs, arent
[23:53] <Rhomber> Aliekezi: yeah, and a lot don't work with Ubuntu / pulseaudio
[23:53] <Rhomber> SoundBlaster Extigy for example is detected fine, but doesn't work
[23:54] <agora> anonynimity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package
[23:54] <Aliekezhi> bekks, my investigation stops there (switching from 3.2 to 3.11 kernel didn't solve) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6407909/
[23:54] <Rhomber> i just figured there has to be a card that is supported.. lots of small devices with no decent sound (Odroid / Raspberry Pi)
[23:54] <Aliekezhi> bekks, I only see xorg crashing when I open images files but no idea why
[23:55] <agora> anonynimity: also this is in the repo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/lib32ncurses5
[23:55] <Anonynimity> thank you agora
[23:55] <agora> anonynimity yw
[23:55] <newbie> Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit.  I can no longer empty trash and bleachbit clogs the system for a full system stop.  What to do?  Also ClamAv doesn't seem to want to work
[23:56] <Anonynimity> but agora - I'm on a 32 bit system -- i386 arch... all I see in that repo is amd64 arch
[23:56] <bekks> Aliekezhi: That log has nothing to do with investigating why your computer starts to swap :) free -m; iotop; ps aux; will help you to investigate that. And setting the kernel options vm.swappiness=10 and vm.oom_kill_allocating_task=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf will help even more.
[23:57] <bekks> Aliekezhi: And the backtrace part in the log (after the last line of the paste) would be the interesting part of the log, along with dmesg
[23:58] <agora> anonynimity did you try package-name:i386
[23:59] <Anonynimity> yes, still says "unable to locate package lib32ncurses5


[05:32] <trappist> who should I talk to about a change on ubuntu.com?
[05:34] <trappist> I guess it's late in the day to ask.  In case somebody with access pokes his head in...
[05:35] <trappist> on http://www.ubuntu.com/community/lists "highly-technical" should not be hyphenated.
[05:37] <Burgundavia> trappist: please file a bug against the product
[05:37] <Burgundavia> ubuntu-website
[05:37] <Burgundavia> one of the editors, which includes me, can handle it
[05:58] <trappist> gotcha
[06:04] <Laser_away> trappist: btw, I don't think it is a big deal to get triage rights
[06:05] <Laser_away> although I agree that the policy is not straightfoward
[08:20] <Madpilot> hi all
[08:21] <Burgundavia> hey Madpilot
[08:21] <Burgundavia> again, you come on at crazy hours
[08:22] <Madpilot> 2320 isn't so crazy
[08:23] <Madpilot> only got home a while ago, a small group of us ordered pizza into the Club and hung out for a while
[08:23] <Burgundavia> ah
[08:24] <Madpilot> I'm also waist deep in cats, so late night feeding of them after I got home took a bit ;)
[08:24] <Burgundavia> right, you at G&G's
[08:25] <Madpilot> yes, with their two cats & D's two, plus the Dobergoof
[08:25] <Burgundavia> right
[08:25] <Madpilot> just for added entertainment, last week someone spotted a cougar two blocks away... ;)
[08:25] <Burgundavia> right
[08:26] <Madpilot> the actual big-cat cougar, not the scary-40+yr old woman type
[08:27] <Burgundavia> right
[09:53] <Gargoyle> Is it possible to get an image into the wiki?
[09:54] <Burgwork> Gargoyle, yep, upload it
[09:54] <Burgwork> drop down menu, attachments
[09:55] <Gargoyle> Can't see that!
[09:56] <Burgwork> might need to be logged in
[09:56] <Gargoyle> I am just writing a new page. I have category drop down, then save preview spelling and cancel buttons
[09:57] <Burgwork> save the page
[09:57] <Burgwork> then uploadt he image
[09:57] <Gargoyle> ahh


[00:01] <mhall119> that was the hardest part of the current approach
[00:02] <mhall119> maybe newz2000 will help us turn our boring old HTML into a mobile-ready webapp (hint, hint)
[00:03] <daker> my approche is to add a /m where people can find the mobile view
[00:04] <daker> but if we have to to the mobile & desktop view on the same code we need to add some kind of a mobile browser detection middleware
[00:05] <daker> which will give us a is_mobile like the is_ajax attribute
[00:06] <mhall119> yeah, not really ideal
[00:06] <mhall119> is there a way to auto-magically forward mobile-users to the /m page?
[00:07] <daker> yes!
[00:07] <cjohnston> I don't like things seperated by track for a non 'track' page...
[00:07] <daker> mhall119: yes you can with javascript
[00:08] <cjohnston> IMO there is way too much scrolling
[00:08] <daker> cjohnston: are you referring to what i have done ?
[00:08] <cjohnston> daker: the two links you gave
[00:09] <daker> those are just for test not the final work
[00:10] <daker> here is my approche
[00:10] <daker> people will have to go s.u.c
[00:11] <cjohnston> I mean, IMO, if we can't have one view for all displays, then I don't mind the current agenda list views
[00:12] <daker> if it's a mobile device and he would like to be redirected to /m, we will redirect him
[00:13] <cjohnston> daker: I'm saying if the display screens in the hallway dont use the same code as desktop view and the mobile, then I like the current list view and just want to improve the current list view for mobile, and work on the hallway displays
[00:16] <daker> cjohnston: sorry but what do you mean by "the current list view" ?
[00:16] <daker> this http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/2012-10-30 ?
[00:16] <cjohnston> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/2012-10-29/
[00:16] <cjohnston> yes
[00:17] <cjohnston> if http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/2012-10-29/ and a view like http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/2012-10-29/display can't be combine, then I dont care to redo http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/2012-10-29/, just improve it
[00:18] <daker> cjohnston: just saw that the list view is responsive
[00:19] <cjohnston> The whole point of the work Steve was doing was to make one view that worked for hallway displays, desktop/laptop, tablet, phone
[00:20] <daker> first you have to remove render.py, don't use table and use divs instead
[00:22] <cjohnston> render.py is going to be a seperate page that only admins have access to
[00:23] <cjohnston> I don't see render.py ever going away, it's just the amount that it is used
[00:40] <daker> ok
[00:40] <daker> g'night
[00:58] <cjohnston> gnite
[02:51] <newz2000> hey mhall119, had a mega scrollback so if there's something you need, let me know, happy to help
[02:53] <mhall119> newz2000: any help you can give to make summit.ubuntu.com rock on mobile devices would be much appreciated
[02:53] <newz2000> mhall119: what page(s) are particularly tricky?
[02:53] <cjohnston> heh.. newz2000 they are trying to get you in on Community work ;-)
[02:53] <mhall119> daker was working on some new mobile-friendly layouts, but we're not sure the best way to integrate them seemlessly
[02:54] <mhall119> cjohnston: gotta keep him involved somehow
[02:54] <cjohnston> ;-)
[02:54] <mhall119> might even get him to UDS again
[02:54] <newz2000> :-) That'd be irony
[02:54] <mhall119> :)
[02:58]  * newz2000 goes to find his phone
[02:59] <newz2000> well, the good news is, anything would be better than what you have now
[03:00] <newz2000> actually, I've seen worse
[03:00] <mhall119> it used to be worse
[03:01] <newz2000> to make the links touch friendly on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/ you need to put some padding around the <li>
[03:01] <newz2000> oh, wife just got home from the store, gotta help her unpack
[03:07] <mhall119> she went shopping today?  Crazy
[03:18] <newz2000> mhall119: grocery shopping. :-) Definitely crazy.
[03:18] <newz2000> She said the stores are actually pretty mellow. I guess it's late enough that everyone wore out and went home to bed.
[03:20] <newz2000> #column-schedule li { margin: .3em 0; } seems to be more touch friendly
[03:20] <newz2000> or maybe #column-schedule-inner li { … }
[03:22] <newz2000> I wonder if there's a way to make the tool tips not show up on mobile when viewing this: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/2012-10-29/
[03:22] <newz2000> because when you tap an event the tool tip flashes for a moment then goes away
[14:27] <cjohnston> newz2000: I want to do that, yes


[00:23] <czajkowski> yummy foods!
[00:26] <czajkowski> mhall119: I got my southern fix!
[00:45] <mhall119> czajkowski: I doubt that
[00:45] <mhall119> NYC just can't quite offer a true southern fix
[06:51] <dholbach> good morning
[10:45] <czajkowski> Dates for FOSDEM are out https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2014-June/002009.html
[16:18] <dholbach> all rightie - have a great weekend everyone! :)