[19:14] <sunsetlover> wilee-nilee, sorry i didn't saw any thing can help me with my prob. i need to install my wifi driver to make it works
[19:14] <gvo> blip: do you have a second usb stick to try
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> blip-, Flash stick? do you get a black scree?
[19:14] <hydruid> blip-: you have a newer windows 8 laptop?
[19:14] <gvo> blip preferably a different manufacter
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> sunsetlover, That is the wiki on that broadcom card you posted.
[19:15] <loki_> gordonjcp: do you know how I can start it at boot time?
[19:15] <w30> mikere, I just use synapatic and seach "kernel". Then uninstall kernel stuff lower number wise lower than the one you use. On reboot grub removes the deleted kernels from it's list.
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> sunsetlover, IF you do not understand it that is okay, state that.
[19:16] <SchrodingersScat> loki_: crontab is one way
[19:16] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: I am on the local machine now in the startup applications gui
[19:16] <sunsnap> so i did what hydruid said and this is what popped uphttp://pastebin.com/LXW90G3u
[19:16] <mikere> w30: thanks - that sounds like a great way to do it.
[19:16] <w30> mikere, if it just says kernel with no numbers I leave it. Works for me.
[19:17] <sunsetlover> sorry but i didn't understand how to install the bcm43xx driver
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> w30, you have to run a update grub to remove them from the grub menu, unless synaptic is doing that.
[19:17] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: as a test I opened a terminal and typed "sudo /usr/lib/vino/vino-server" and I get an error that says "the desktop sharing service is not enabled so it should not be run"
[19:17] <hydruid> sunsnap: is your mouse this "Holtek USB Gaming Mouse]"
[19:17] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: so how can I work around that
[19:17] <blip-> wilee-nilee, hydruid:  The issue is stuck on the "Loading operating systems" screen, ie before or during when the bios is loading the OS from the USB flash stick.  I run windows 7 currently, I think bios/hardware config is preventing the boot
[19:17] <sunsnap> probably
[19:17] <sunsnap> its actually perixx but
[19:17] <sunsnap> perixx mouse
[19:18] <sunsnap> i think its Holtek USB gaming mouse though
[19:18] <MagePsycho> how to copy and replace existing files
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> blip-, So a stuck screen?
[19:18] <hydruid> blip-: see if there is an option in the bios for legacy boot
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> blip-, Is this a uefi W7?
[19:18] <SchrodingersScat> loki_: don't think you need to run it as root, but you should check that page again, I think it mentions setting the preferences first
[19:18] <sunsetlover> wilee-nilee, sorry but i didn't understand how to install the bcm43xx driver
[19:18] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: I set those in the GUI
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> sunsetlover, That helps to know, someone more familiar will help you most likely, not an area I'm real up on is all.
[19:19] <hydruid> sunsnap: good and bad news, I found a post on the Ubuntu forums with a solution.....bad news it the forums are down for maintenance lol
[19:19] <MagePsycho> cp -rf * .htaccess ../dev2/ doesn't work.. it ask confirmation for overriting
[19:19] <sunsnap> lol
[19:19] <loki_> SchrodingersScat: I need this thing to start at startup.  it is critical
[19:19] <sunsnap> can i get the link? for later
[19:19] <blip-> wilee-nilee, no, regular updated bios on Gigabyte Z68XP-ud3 motherboard.  odd that it cannot even boot my normal windows OS when this USB drive is simply plugged in..
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | blip- try this as a start
[19:20] <justaguy> aha! i know how to get broadcoms working on ubuntu! , wait i will look up the command for you!
[19:20] <hydruid> sunsnap: sure, made it shorter since it's uber long: http://alturl.com/stn8i
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> justaguy, make sure you use their nick to help them is all. ;)
[19:21] <sunsnap> hydruid, which link is it?
[19:21] <sunsnap> im guessing the first result?
[19:21] <Shakaz> will ubuntu install on a GPT disk?
[19:21] <hydruid> sunsnap: the first one lol
[19:21] <sunsnap> :P
[19:21] <cigfresh> Hey niggers
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> blip-, There is efi use yes.
[19:21] <justaguy> wilee-nilee : i don't know who is having problems :p , but try sudo apt-get install kernel-bcmwl-source
[19:22] <cigfresh> Enjoying the flavor off each other's dicks?
[19:22] <cigfresh> Faggots
[19:22] <Eagleman> WHy is this script not being run once every minute, it does run when i use /gameservers/sa-mp/checksamp.sh:  http://lpaste.net/6487434082111193088
[19:23] <Shakaz> will ubuntu install on a GPT disk via legacy?
[19:23] <blip-> wilee-nilee, thank you, from the appearance the issue is happening pre-kernel bootup.  about uefi, I don't have uefi bios installed, normal bios
[19:24] <Sach> Is there a command I can run in terminal to identify why Ubuntu 12.04 keeps freezing?
[19:24] <ubuntu-studio> i found a C. file on desktop with the locate command, but when i do gcc  it tells me no such file or directory
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> blip-, Your description is a bit confusing, a usb plugged in should not affect the windows boot, unless you have moved the usb first and it is doing what ever it does, and windows does not get the boot call.
[19:24] <ubuntu-studio> where is the error
[19:25] <Eagleman> WHy is this script not being run once every minute, it does run when i use /gameservers/sa-mp/checksamp.sh:  http://lpaste.net/6487434082111193088
[19:25] <sunsetlover> justaguy,  when i tried the code you mentioned it gives me this error : E: Unable to locate package kernel-bcmwl-source
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> !details | Shakaz
[19:26] <Shakaz> wilee-nilee not so much a problem
[19:26] <Shakaz> more a question
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> blip-, uefi system have it in the hardware is this a possibility?
[19:26] <Shakaz> will ubuntu 13.04 64bit install sucessully on a GPT disk that has been partionied?
[19:26] <Shakaz> via legacy boot mode
[19:26] <Shakaz> because for some reason uefi doesn't recognise the USB boot even though i've set it up to boot first
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> Shakaz, This channel can answer questions, however you have to be detailed.
[19:26] <blip-> wilee-nilee, hmm not sure
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Shakaz
[19:27] <blip-> wilee-nilee, ok i will check my boot settings again
[19:27] <Shakaz> ubuntu forums down
[19:27] <Shakaz> srs
[19:27] <gordonjcp> loki_: I haven't used vino before
[19:27] <loki_> gordonjcp: I got it
[19:28] <gordonjcp> loki_: cool
[19:28] <gordonjcp> loki_: what's it for?
[19:28] <loki_> gordonjcp: it wasn't letting me start it from the terminal, but it let me set it as a startup application
[19:28] <SchrodingersScat> gordonjcp: vnc
[19:28] <loki_> gordonjcp: it's the built in VNC program in ubuntu
[19:28] <sunsetlover> i found in the additional drivers a broadcom driver need to be activated, but when i press on activate i hve this error : Sorry, installation of this driver failed.
[19:28] <sunsetlover> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[19:29] <sunsetlover> what is that mean ?
[19:30] <Shakaz> ubuntu forums are down
[19:30] <Shakaz> ffs
[19:30] <Shakaz> ffs
[19:30] <Shakaz> ffs
[19:30] <FloodBot1> Shakaz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:30] <loki_> ugh.  something broke. FUCK.
[19:30] <loki_> brb
[19:32] <ubuntu-studio> i found a C. file on desktop with the locate command, but when i do gcc  it tells me no such file or directory....yesterday someone gave me the command and i solved it but i forgot wich was..
[19:32] <Eagleman> WHy is this script not being run once every minute, it does run when i use /gameservers/sa-mp/checksamp.sh:  http://lpaste.net/6487434082111193088
[19:33] <gordonjcp> SchrodingersScat: ?
[19:33] <gordonjcp> loki_: vnc?
[19:33] <SchrodingersScat> gordonjcp: that's what vino-server is
[19:33] <loki_> gordonjcp: no, this is an amahi issue
[19:33] <SchrodingersScat> ubuntu-studio: apt-cache search ia32-libs ##was it that?
[19:34] <gordonjcp> no, what's a vnc?
[19:34] <darkelfjuggalo> I run Ubuntu 13.04 on a Toshiba Satellite S855...nothing I find online tells me what the Built in Mic and Webcam are... Some of my work requires these two features, and Screencasting/recording [which should be available through the webcam] for the Camera, I have attempted every package for Webcam in the 13.04 repository, and the only thing that finds it at all is Google Chrome... my Microphone i nothing is finding it... Can someone assist me in fi
[19:34] <Schilcote> Hi, I
[19:34] <Schilcote> 'm having a problem with a server running Ubuntu Server, the latest version
[19:35] <SchrodingersScat> !details | Schilcote , tell me more
[19:35] <Schilcote> For whatver reason, it's refusing to accept any incoming connections from outside the network
[19:35] <Schilcote> I have port forwarding configured on the router
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> Schilcote, If needed there is a #ubuntu-server channel
[19:36] <Eagleman> WHy is this script not being run once every minute, it does run when i use /gameservers/sa-mp/checksamp.sh:  http://lpaste.net/6487434082111193088
[19:36] <Schilcote> Ah. should I head over there then?
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> only you will know
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> Schilcote, sometimes the channels are not as fast as some want just options is all.
[19:37] <Schilcote> Exact version from the banner that shows up after I log in is "Ubuntu 13.04 (GNU/Linux 3.8.0-19-generic x86_64)"
[19:37] <ubuntu-studio> schrodinger no it wasnt
[19:37] <ubuntu-studio> schrodinger no it wasnt
[19:37] <Shakaz> why are the ubtunuforums down
[19:37] <MagePsycho> how to ignore existing files while cp
[19:37] <MagePsycho> ?
[19:37] <Schilcote> I can connect to the server from inside the network, but attempting to connect to the internet-facing side of the router gives me nothing.
[19:37] <SchrodingersScat> ubuntu-studio: heard; was just checking
[19:37] <Shakaz> fuck the maintenance
[19:38] <blazemore> Shakaz: The Ubuntu Forums is temporarily down for maintenance.
[19:38] <blazemore> Shakaz: I read that on http://ubuntuforums.org/
[19:38] <Shakaz> for how long
[19:38] <SchrodingersScat> MagePsycho: -n
[19:38] <blazemore> Shakaz: I don't know, and presumably its unplanned maintainance or there'd be a timeframe
[19:39] <Eagleman> WHy is this script not being run once every minute, it does run when i use /gameservers/sa-mp/checksamp.sh:  http://lpaste.net/6487434082111193088
[19:39] <basichash> How can I use sudo with inline password?
[19:39] <blazemore> basichash: You can't
[19:40] <blazemore> !sudo | basichash you can configure your sudoers file to get the behaviour you want
[19:40] <phong_> hi guys
[19:40] <SchrodingersScat> MagePsycho: for more, see 'man cp' or 'cp --help'
[19:41] <loki_> gordonjcp: it was username woes.  because I added another user but appended a number to the end then I couldn't access the file shares from a remote computer.  created a new user with the old username and deleted the new one and that fixed it
[19:41] <basichash> blazemore: I've written a script that periodically needs access to root, but obviously i get a password prompt when it runs. What do you suggest?
[19:42] <loki_> looks like I am sorted.
[19:42] <loki_> thanks guys, I know I was a bit short, but this stuff can be frustrating at times :)
[19:42] <blazemore> basichash: What command does your script try to run as root? Is it only the one command?
[19:43] <basichash> blazemore: ifconfig commands
[19:43] <blazemore> basichash: Why not run your script as root in the first place then?
[19:43] <ubuntu-studio> schrodiger     if  have to find a a C. file and then see the content doing ./a.out how i have to do to find the file
[19:43] <Eagleman> WHy is this script not being run once every minute, it does run when i use /gameservers/sa-mp/checksamp.sh:  http://lpaste.net/6487434082111193088
[19:43] <basichash> blazemore: didn't think of that, good idea
[19:44] <xerxas> Hi all ! how can I check when did the last "apt-get update" occured ?
[19:44] <Sach> Is there a command I can run in terminal to identify why Ubuntu 12.04 keeps freezing?
[19:44] <see1> hello
[19:44] <blazemore> xerxas: Look in /var/log/apt/
[19:44] <xerxas> I'm booting some ubuntu vagrant box and archive.ubuntu.com is really slow where I am, I want to avoid running apt-get update so frequently
[19:45] <see1> can any1 help with comiling jsmin into php?
[19:45] <see1> compiling
[19:46] <xerxas> blazemore: thanks, any idea how I can do it in /var/lib/apt ?
[19:46] <xerxas> with a stat (based on atime, ctime or mtime)  ?
[19:47] <blazemore> xerxas: You could check the Access times on the files in /var/lib/apt/lists which is updated when you run apt-get update. If apt-get update was run with sudo you should also have a line logged in /var/log/auth.log when it was done.
[19:48] <xerxas> are you sure about atime ?
[19:48] <blazemore> see1: From the jsmin page: This project is unmaintained. I stopped using it years ago. You shouldn't use it. You shouldn't use any version of JSMin. There are much better tools available now.
[19:48] <xerxas> I mean , apt-get install sth , doesn't access these files ?
[19:48] <xerxas> I would have thought of using mtime
[19:48] <blazemore> xerxas: Yes, 100%. The files are read, and only updated if the version on the server differs
[19:48] <blazemore> xerxas: you said update, not install...
[19:49] <blazemore> xerxas: and it absolutely would access those files, where do you think it knows where do download sth from??
[19:49] <xerxas> blazemore: yes, that's what I'm saying, I would have thought that apt-get install , updates the atime of some files in /var/lib/apt/list/*
[19:49] <XXX> when installing ubuntu on a macbook, should i use the alternative mac iso, or stick with the normal 64 bit iso?
[19:49] <blazemore> XXX: What macbook, and what Ubuntu version?
[19:49] <xerxas> blazemore: where , apt-get update , changes both the atime and the mtime
[19:49] <XXX> blazemore: macbook air and 12.03
[19:50] <XXX> *12.04
[19:50] <blazemore> xerxas: I'd still recommend the history file rather than atime etc
[19:50] <karab44> my upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04 fails
[19:50] <karab44> I asked you before IS IT SAFE
[19:50] <blazemore> XXX: Which Macbook Air?
[19:51] <XXX> blazemore: 13''
[19:51] <blazemore> karab44: I didn't think you could do that?
[19:51] <karab44> hehehe you could warn me then
[19:51] <blazemore> karab44: I thought you could go from one LTS to another, which would be 10.04-12.04, or from one version to another, which would be 12.10-13.04
[19:51] <blazemore> karab44: Well in my defense I wasn't here, or I would have done
[19:52] <xerxas> blazemore: yes, it's less a hack, but parsing auth.log, extracting the date, converting it to epoch , comparing whith $(date +%s) - 86400 is so much easier
[19:52] <xerxas> ;)
[19:52] <xerxas> I meant , harder
[19:52] <karab44> blazemore: I thouth it's risky so I came here and heard that Ubuntu is so perfect and it can handle such upgrade
[19:52] <blazemore> karab44: Well in principle there shouldn't be a problem
[19:53] <karab44> yes especially that I had quite fresh system
[19:53] <karab44> I mean freshly installed
[19:53] <blazemore> karab44: If you've got a botched upgrade I'd probably recommend just doing a completely fresh install and restoring your stuff from backups
[19:53] <blazemore> karab44: Why did you do a fresh install of an old version, and then try to upgrade? Why not just install the latest version straight away?
[19:53] <Extreminador> guys with compiz can we switch workspace using the mouse movements to the edge ?
[19:54] <blazemore> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:54] <karab44> Because it was LTS but finally it didn't meet my expectations
[19:54] <blazemore> Extreminador: Yes, use that ^^^^
[19:54] <see1> blazemore: pls wait i will look into into..
[19:54] <karab44> doing LTS should be critical and flawless but 12.04 it's not really best deployment
[19:55] <Extreminador> blazemore ny link to see the options because i have already read many options but i don´t see that one
[19:55] <blazemore> The point of an LTS is you don't have to do an upgrade for a few years, karab44. This is good for businesses and such
[19:56] <blazemore> Extreminador: There's definately an option in there for screen edges, try searching for it, ccsm has a search box
[19:56] <alfonsopio> ciao
[19:56] <alfonsopio> !list
[19:56] <Extreminador> for edges thanks blazemore good ideia indeed
[19:56] <Extreminador> this has a filter option
[19:56] <karab44> blazemore: Like I used to say before - in my opinion policy of LTS is wrong. There's no fresh tools and aplications so in the matter of fact it's hard to do anything without upgrading it
[19:57] <XXX> blazemore, any idea?
[19:57] <Npc> how do i enable pinch zoom?
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> karab44  discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[19:57] <sharif> ubuntu 13.4 blutooth problem help me
[19:57] <karab44> Yes here's the one that told me upgrading is safe
[19:57] <see1> i´m on Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.45-x86_64-jb1 x86_64)
[19:58] <wutang> GOOD MORNING VIETNAAAM
[19:58] <sharif> ubuntu 13.4 blutooth problem help me
[19:58] <wutang> blutooth?
[19:58] <XXX> "
[19:58] <XXX> 64-bit Mac (AMD64) desktop CD
[19:58] <XXX>     Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead. This image is adjusted to work properly on Mac systems. "
[19:58] <FloodBot1> XXX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:59] <wutang> I'm low key like seashells I rock these bells
[19:59] <XXX> 64-bit PC (AMD64) install/live DVD     Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead.
[19:59] <sharif> bluetooth
[19:59] <karab44> blazemore: truth is that even mouse settings doesn't work well on 12.04 LTS. and it's more than year when deployed and bug still not fixed
[19:59] <XXX> so which so i take?
[19:59] <see1> i do this on my server -> mkdir jsmin
[19:59] <sharif> ubuntu 13.4 bluetooth problem help me
[19:59] <see1> cd !$
[19:59] <karab44> so what ubuntu LTS has in common with long term support?
[19:59] <see1> wget http://www.ypass.net/downloads/php-jsmin/php-jsmin-1.0.tgz
[20:00] <sharif> file not shared into my phone
[20:00] <Clearcoat_Ben> can anybody help me with setting up necessary partitions to install 12.04 LTS 64-bit on Windows 7 machine? The Ubuntu installer is not giving me option to "install alongside Windows"
[20:00] <see1> how i untar it now?
[20:01] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: Last time I did it manually I trashed my W7 installation.
[20:01] <sharif>  can anybody help me ubuntu 13.4 bluetooth problem  file not shared into my phone
[20:01] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: so be sure you backup anything important.
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> !partiton | Clearcoat_Ben get an idea here
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> !partition | Clearcoat_Ben get an idea here
[20:01] <Clearcoat_Ben> thanks
[20:02] <sharif>  can anybody help me ubuntu 13.4 bluetooth problem  file not shared into my phone
[20:02] <gvo> MonkeyDust: Isn't the recommended way of resizing Win parts to use the Win native disk tools?
[20:02] <TheLordOfTime> !privmsg | garrettkajmowicz
[20:02] <sharif>  can anybody help me ubuntu 13.4 bluetooth problem  file not shared into my phone plzzzzz
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> gvo  not sure what you mean
[20:03] <see1> if i do mkdir jsmin ...why i can´t see or find it in my root browser?
[20:03] <see1> some1 knows the location?
[20:03] <see1> mkdir: cannot create directory `jsmin': File exists
[20:03] <gvo> MonkeyDust: I've been told to use the windows disk utilities to reduce the size of the existing partition.
[20:03] <XXX> anyone?
[20:03] <see1> cd !$
[20:04] <gvo> MonkeyDust: because they are more reliable than the linux tools.
[20:04] <see1> and i´m in the dir /jsmin
[20:04] <see1> hae?
[20:04] <gvo> MonkeyDust: That used to be the general concensus.
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> gvo  you don't need windows to work with linux, they are completely different systems
[20:04] <OerHeks> gvo correct. let windows diskmanagment handle resize partitions ( vista/win7/8)
[20:04] <garrettkajmowicz> TheLordOfTime: I posted an AskBuntu question here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/307509/upgrade-to-12-04lts-dumps-to-busybox-on-boot
[20:04] <Clearcoat_Ben> gvo: I had managed to reduce the size of my original windows partition, but then when I tried to make it a usable partition it said there wasn't enough disk space
[20:04] <gvo> OerHeks: Thanks for the support.
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  ?
[20:05] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: who said that and how big was the space you freed?
[20:06] <see1> Ubuntu Forums is down for maintenance
[20:06] <see1> common
[20:06] <Clearcoat_Ben> W7 disk utility said that, I had reduced my original partition from 972 GB to 437 GB
[20:07] <Clearcoat_Ben> but when that didn't work I now have it back to original I can send you a screenshot from the Ubuntu disk utility showing what it is set up now, I just need to know what partitions to make so I can install Ubuntu alongside W7 and be able to boot from either
[20:07] <Eagleman> WHy is this script not being run once every minute, it does run when i use /gameservers/sa-mp/checksamp.sh:  http://lpaste.net/6487434082111193088
[20:08] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, it is stated here > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows#Resizing_partitions  as windows diskmanagment checks for the empty space, and gives a max Mb to decrease the partition.
[20:08] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: since you restored it you can't install ubuntu.
[20:09] <arcsky> hello what is the default syslog in ubuntu? i have installed syslog-ng and all are now fucked up :/
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> Clearcoat_Ben  it's common to have a separate / and /home partition, and swap, use whatever disk partitioning utility you're familiar with
[20:09] <Clearcoat_Ben> the last time I had installed Ubuntu I didn't partition so this is the first time I'm partitioning and I'm just a wee bit lost
[20:09] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: and what does w7 disk utility know about how much space ubuntu wants?  ;)
[20:10] <Clearcoat_Ben> no W7 said there wasn't enough room to turn the unallocated space into a "dynamic" disk
[20:10] <SchrodingersScat> Eagleman: what does the /1 do in that crontab line?
[20:10] <Clearcoat_Ben> basically I just need a link to tell me which partitions to make, what minimum size they need to be, what settings etc. to install ubuntu
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> Clearcoat_Ben  i wasnt aware W7 is already installed and you want to resize without data loss
[20:10] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: forget w7.  Once the w7 partition has been resized, use linux utilities from then on.
[20:11] <OerHeks> Clearcoat_Ben, sounds like you have 4 primairy already?
[20:11] <Eagleman> SchrodingersScat, */1 should run it once every minute
[20:12] <Clearcoat_Ben> I had reduced the size of the W7 primary partition. Which gave me 430+ GB of unallocated space. I then booted from a USB into Ubuntu and began install, it wouldn't allow me to use the unallocated space on the disk to create a useable disk via the Ubuntu disk utility.
[20:12] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: what error did it throw?
[20:12] <see1> jsmin.c:59:17: fatal error: php.h: No such file or directory
[20:12] <see1> what means this?
[20:12] <see1> how i can get php.h ???
[20:13] <Clearcoat_Ben> it didn't give an error just wouldn't let me select "install alongside windows" and it wouldn't let me select the unallocated space as the point to install
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> Clearcoat_Ben  was that WUBI you tried?
[20:14] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: OK boot that disk/stick and run a live cd.  Then use gparted to create a partition.
[20:14] <Clearcoat_Ben> no not using Wubi, installing 64-bit in efi
[20:15] <Clearcoat_Ben> should I resize the Windows7_OS partition through Gparted or Windows Disk Manager?
[20:15] <Clearcoat_Ben> How many partitions do I need to make and what settings for each?
[20:15] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: windows
[20:16] <OerHeks> Clearcoat_Ben, sounds like you have 4 primairy already?
[20:16] <Clearcoat_Ben> 4 primary?
[20:16] <Clearcoat_Ben> how do I send you a screenshot in here?
[20:16] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: How many?  That's up to you.  I usually make 3 a very small boot, a reasonable root and home.
[20:16] <szahrat> Clearcoat list ur partitions
[20:16] <OerHeks> !image
[20:17] <OerHeks> !screenshot
[20:17] <crazyHorse> how can i uninstall landscape service and will it screw anything else up?
[20:17] <Clearcoat_Ben> http://imagebin.org/269598
[20:18] <Sach> Is there a command I can run in terminal to identify why Ubuntu 12.04 keeps freezing?
[20:18] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: can you boot a live cd/stick?
[20:18] <Clearcoat_Ben> I'm booted off of a USB right now
[20:18] <OerHeks> Clearcoat_Ben, yes, you have 4 primairy/ delete one partition, make an Extended partition, and let ubuntu make the logical partitions
[20:18] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: Running linux?
[20:19] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: sudo fdisk -l      and pastebin the output.
[20:20] <gvo> OerHeks: We'll see what he's got, (maybe)
[20:20] <OerHeks> gvo the image is clear
[20:20] <lordfreak> hi everybody
[20:20] <gvo> Oh, I missed the image.
[20:20] <garrettkajmowicz> TheLordOfTime: No luck. I still see the question marked as a duplicate. Title still lists: Upgrade to 12.04LTS dumps to busybox on boot [duplicate]. Might this be some advanced permissions that you have?
[20:20] <Clearcoat_Ben> it's not showing anything is that dash capital i?
[20:22] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: Nevermind.  I missed the image.  You have all 4 partions defined.  You can't add any more.
[20:22] <Clearcoat_Ben> nm, got it, screenshotting now
[20:22] <Clearcoat_Ben> ah crap, hmm..
[20:22] <gordonjcp> gvo: that's what logical partitions are for
[20:22] <gvo> I know.
[20:23] <gordonjcp> or LVM
[20:23] <lordfreak> I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8 and I don't consider myself an Ubuntu/linux newbie but I just can' t figure it out. I tried normally installing Ubuntu alongside windows. But then it just boots directly to windows. So i tried to run boot-repair using a live cd and this just runs forever. Then I tried installing Ubuntu in legacy mode, but then upon restarting I just get a message operating system not found and can'
[20:23] <lordfreak> Any help would be appreciated!
[20:23]  * OerHeks wonders why 2 lenovo partitons
[20:23] <gvo> But he's got 4 primary all redy.
[20:23] <gvo> OerHeks: Me too.
[20:23] <Clearcoat_Ben> yeah I don't know what the two lenovo partitions area, I'm going to look at that
[20:23] <Clearcoat_Ben> are*
[20:23] <gordonjcp> yeah, you need to delete a primary partition and make logical ones ;-)
[20:23] <gvo> and best if you remove the last one
[20:24] <Clearcoat_Ben> alright, well thanks for the help guys
[20:24] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: You could always buy a new disk and add it.
[20:24] <Clearcoat_Ben> I don't think my laptop has room for another disk
[20:24] <gvo> OK.
[20:25] <Clearcoat_Ben> I would completely get rid of Windows but I need to run some school specific software (MatLab, Solidworks and other such things)
[20:26] <gvo> Could maybe replace the existing HD
[20:26] <Diusgh> Anyone familiar with PPC G4 notebooks floating on here?
[20:26] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: gotta be a way to restore win7 to a new disk.
[20:27] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: Then that wouldn't work either.
[20:27] <gvo> Clearcoat_Ben: you'd still have 4 pri partitions.
[20:27] <szahrat> Diusgh: straight into the question
[20:27] <Clearcoat_Ben> I don't think I have a W7 install disk I think I have a reboot partition
[20:27] <gvo> That's probably what the lenovo parts are.
[20:27] <Clearcoat_Ben> I'm sure one of these lenovo partitions can be ditched
[20:28] <aaas> so during boot i get lots of mount errors from samba...it's as if mountall runs before my network is up, anyone see anything like that
[20:28] <Diusgh> szahrat: cant boot a '05 ppc lappy off ubuntu disk, burned through disk util on low setting
[20:29] <Diusgh> szahrat: trying to do a clean instal
[20:30] <Clearcoat_Ben> One of the Lenovo partitions isn't even mounted...
[20:31] <jrib> aaas: did you specify _netdev in the mount options?
[20:31] <aaas> jrib no i didn't (in fstab) is that what you have to do nowadays?
[20:32] <szahrat> whats on the screen when u try to boot??
[20:32] <jrib> aaas: not sure why you say "nowadays"
[20:32] <aaas> well nowadays to not have this problem
[20:32] <aaas> maybe it was always a requirement
[20:33] <AcidRain2012> aaas, actually i find that in ubuntu 12, fstab is less needed. by me at least. all my external and internal hdds seem to mount at the same location each time
[20:33] <gallez> hey guys, couple of quick questions
[20:33] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu 11- had some issue with this
[20:33] <aaas> AcidRain2012 how do they mount without fstab?
[20:33] <AcidRain2012> they just auto mount.
[20:34] <aaas> AcidRain2012 actually they are network (samba) drives
[20:34] <AcidRain2012> idk how. i didnt code ubuntu. lol
[20:34] <aaas> AcidRain2012 so through the gui?
[20:34] <AcidRain2012> what gui? :/
[20:34] <AcidRain2012> theres a gui for fstab? im mad now i didnt know of this
[20:34] <aaas> AcidRain2012 they automount through the gui?
[20:34] <Diusgh> Is there a foolproof method for converting an .iso to a .dmg that a '05 PPC OSX would recognize?
[20:34] <aaas> through the desktop
[20:34] <AcidRain2012> aaas, through the desktop env. yes
[20:34] <aaas> yeah im not using a desktop
[20:34] <jrib> aaas: I'm guessing AcidRain2012 is just referring to how partitions get mounted when you click on them in nautilus
[20:35] <AcidRain2012> aaas, mount? ;)
[20:35] <aaas> yeah i want them to automount
[20:35] <LinuxGold> anyone good with gcc?  I need assistance.
[20:35] <jrib> Diusgh: why?
[20:35] <jrib> !anyone | LinuxGold
[20:35] <AcidRain2012> aaas, not using a desktop env, yes id use fstab
[20:35] <AcidRain2012> jrib, man all of my drives mount as soon as my desktop finishes loading. no clicking on them in nautilus
[20:35] <shadej> I can not pipe the shutdown command frm with in a java program. is there any other program to shutdown other than the shutdown command?
[20:35] <aaas> ok thanks for your help AcidRain2012 jrib  ill look into _netdev
[20:35] <AcidRain2012> they appear on my desktop as well, because i selected that option.
[20:36] <Diusgh> jrib: PPC can't boot off the .iso file from dvd
[20:36] <AcidRain2012> aaas, id use UUID= in fstab to be sure fstab gets the right disk everytime
[20:36] <jrib> !cifs | aaas
[20:36] <LinuxGold> jrib: ok, I'm trying to compile something and make found an error, no type named 'iterator_cateroy' and few other classes -- looks like I am missing something
[20:36] <aaas> yes i have uuid and using cifis
[20:37] <AcidRain2012> cifs
[20:37] <jrib> Diusgh: you want to boot an operating system from a dvd?
[20:37] <AcidRain2012> !cifs
[20:37] <LinuxGold> I upgraded gcc and the ubuntu server (console only) to latest version
[20:37] <jrib> !smb | AcidRain2012
[20:37] <jrib> LinuxGold: you're being too vague.
[20:37] <Diusgh> jrib: no want to install off dvd completely remove osx off of it.
[20:37] <jrib> !ppc | Diusgh
[20:37] <AcidRain2012> hmmm... all of my external drives are formated to ext3 (from a few yrs ago)
[20:38] <LinuxGold> http://pastebin.com/9Nz9a043
[20:38] <jrib> Diusgh: I don't know how well maintained ubuntu ppc is; you may want to check out debian
[20:38] <LinuxGold> easier this way :)
[20:38] <jrib> !compile | LinuxGold
[20:38] <jrib> LinuxGold: you need to install -dev packages for whatever libraries you need to build whatever you are building
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> mapcraft hax i see
[20:39] <c4ifford> So been bashing my head against this issue all day long, I can't seem to get my wlan0 to connect to my access point running wpa2, i've been researching all day, found a few options that said it was an issue with gnome network manager and to remove it and configure it manually, i'm kinda out of ideas at this , no matter what I do the wpa is rejected
[20:39] <Diusgh> jrib: great thanks for the tip. I read through that faq already and havent gotten it running I'll try debian!
[20:39] <LinuxGold> thanks.
[20:39] <trism> LinuxGold: did you just mistype it? maybe iterator_category? (just a guess)
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, did you try WICD?
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> if that is the right package im looking for
[20:40] <LinuxGold> trism: That website is what i needed.
[20:40] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 yessir, did that was my first try after removing network manager
[20:40] <Diusgh> jrib: just trying to give my old ppc a new lease on life and try out ubuntu so see if I like it.
[20:40] <c4ifford> I've heard reports that this is a possible bug in version 10.0 + ?
[20:40] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, now do you have a network key? or a password that you are trying to connect through?
[20:40] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, i did have this issue on 10.04
[20:40] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 I have the network key, and it works on all my other RHEL servers
[20:40] <tables> how can i do full disk encryption on ubuntu?
[20:41] <AcidRain2012> tables, right click on "filesystem" and encrypt :P
[20:41] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, hmmm.... getting any errors?
[20:41] <tables> i want to do it  from the setup
[20:41] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, are you sure they are detecting your wireless card?
[20:42] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 I heard it was possible and issue with mixmode encryption, but i Have a shitty router from comcast that won't let me change anything below wpa2-psk without crashing
[20:42] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 just says bad password
[20:42] <c4ifford> in the wicd log
[20:43] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, may indeed be the router. i had this issue the other day at my brothers house on a windows comp. my suggestion is to use backtrack and crack the keys ;D or force authentication into the router. lol jk
[20:43] <c4ifford> well I have the keys
[20:43] <c4ifford> they work
[20:43] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, but for real though. i have seen that with routers.
[20:43] <c4ifford> ah
[20:43] <AcidRain2012> but lets investigate more while i am curious
[20:43] <tables> i have ubuntu 12.04 livecd, how can i do full disk encryption?
[20:44] <AcidRain2012> hang on one moment
[20:44] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, what version of ubuntu?
[20:44] <sere> queston: in order to get my mtp device to sync the play list it has to be in a .pla playlist format is this possible ?
[20:44] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 12.04
[20:44] <AcidRain2012> hmm
[20:45] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, do you have a built in wireless card? or a usb?
[20:45] <c4ifford> the one i'm using now is built in iwscan works and iwconfig shows it broadcasting to all the access points
[20:46] <AcidRain2012> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo  and you have read this and installed the wpasuppliment?
[20:46] <AcidRain2012> wpasupplicant*
[20:46] <c4ifford> Yes, I have
[20:46] <Maple__> Gah, why don't I have logs?
[20:46] <Maple__> Hai, this is a question not 100% releated to Xubuntu but an issue I haven't had on any of the other dozen or so other distros I've previously used. I'm trying to get Java Swing applications/online Java applets to use the GTK+ look and feel; I've tried editing ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc as well as /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/swing.properties without success. This is what I've tried so far (wi
[20:46] <Maple__> thout success) - http://pastie.org/8291574
[20:46] <Maple__> Assistance would be greatly appreciated, please. :<
[20:46] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012: I first ran through it and people were saying network manager was the issue like I said, and that it was incorrectly passing the WPA key
[20:47] <Maple__> I've also tried using the webupd8 Oracle Java 7 PPA.
[20:47] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 so far I've tried to configure it through network manager, wicd, and just through setting up the interfaces file
[20:48] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, and you backed up the interfaces file right?
[20:48] <tables> how can i do full disk encryption on ubuntu?  through the setup livecd
[20:48] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, pastebin.com ifconfig
[20:48] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 when I removed network manager?
[20:48] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 there wasn almost nothing in my interface file
[20:48] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, nvm. just pastebin the output
[20:49] <AcidRain2012> actually, go ahead and pastebin everything you have for me. including the output of ifconfig
[20:50] <aJayMet66> crhabal im
[20:50] <aJayMet66> ping
[20:50] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, also the output of iwconfig
[20:50] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 hang on I gotta switch my wired connection over
[20:51] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, give me these outputs while your wireless card is enabled
[20:52] <ubuntu-studio> why if i use the command  gcc file.c   it tells me    gcc: fatal error: no input files
[20:52] <c4ifford> AcidRain2012 well i can't paste because the machine has no connction, i'm another box for irc
[20:53] <AcidRain2012> errr
[20:54] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, have you tried using a laptop as a bridge? lol
[20:54] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, i did that for the longest time
[20:55] <AcidRain2012> c4ifford, this may help u.  http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=259245
[20:56] <benbro1> is there a global LibreOffice config file on ubuntu?
[20:56] <benbro1> I've found /home/someuser/.config/libreoffice/3/user/registrymodifications.xcu
[20:56] <benbro1> but I need to change a settings for all usrs
[20:57] <BLA_BLA> hi
[20:58] <BLA_BLA> hi
[20:58] <AcidRain2012> haxor!
[20:58] <AcidRain2012> flood bot!
[20:58] <ubuntu-studio> help!
[20:59] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/gccintro/gccintro_54.html
[21:06] <LinuxGold> ok -- need help installing mapcraft the mapper for minecraft game -- on my ubuntu server.  installed gcc, package-dev, etc...
[21:06] <LinuxGold> missing something still -- pastebin is the same.
[21:07] <LinuxGold> http://pastebin.com/9Nz9a043
[21:10] <ubuntu-studio> bekks     it doesnt work  >*
[21:11] <daftykins> ubuntu-studio: there's a switch you have to use with gcc to tell it 'input file' iirc
[21:11] <ubuntu-studio> bekks i need to see what the c compiler did about my C. file saved on my desktop....how i have to do
[21:12] <SubCool> where are the background wallpapers stored?
[21:12] <SubCool> http://askubuntu.com/questions/272058/where-are-the-ubuntu-12-04s-unity-desktop-wallpapers-located is wrong
[21:12] <jater> SubCool: /var/www
[21:13] <ubuntu-studio> daftykins and how is the command ?
[21:13] <SubCool> jater, no
[21:13] <jater> SubCool: I know?
[21:13] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: Please read the link I gave you.
[21:14] <SubCool> jater, ?????
[21:14] <SubCool> its not /usr/share/wallpapers either
[21:14] <jater> SubCool: use the find command?
[21:14] <SubCool> i have
[21:14] <jater> SubCool: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Flinux.about.com%2Fod%2Fcommands%2Fl%2Fblcmdl1_find.htm&ei=yP8kUt3gM-aJ7AbD5oHAAQ&usg=AFQjCNEunQsG-0xPpu8TYantJTW91hXtcw&bvm=bv.51495398,d.ZGU
[21:15] <daftykins> ubuntu-studio: you really should get in the habit of looking things up for yourself, 'man gcc' i'm sure would tell you how to format it
[21:16] <SubCool> http://www.kubuntuforums.net/archive/index.php/t-56476.html - they mentioned it..
[21:18] <ubuntu-studio> bekks
[21:18] <ubuntu-studio> thanks
[21:18] <ubuntu-studio> daftykins thanks
[21:20] <chachan> guys, which kernel modules are needed to work with VPN?
[21:20] <chachan> using vpnc, to be more specific
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> chachan: network drivers. the vpn is software and handled by network manager
[21:23] <bibi23> hi, I'm trying to allow remote connection from a given ip to my mysql database, after making changes in my mysql configuration and realized it didn't work, I'm wondering if the connection isn't refused at another level (networking), maybe port 3306 isn't accessible, when I do "telnet server-ip 3306" I'm getting a connection refused message.
[21:24] <jater> bibi23: cry me a river
[21:24] <chachan> ActionParsnip, hm that shouldn't be a problem. But I'm having this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/340508/vpn-connection-problem-with-vpnc
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> bibi23: did youbrestart the service to apply the new settings
[21:24] <zykotick9> bibi23: <ot> i'd say any "remote" database connection is a bad idea...</ot>
[21:25] <bibi23> ActionParsnip: yes, restarted after applying
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> chachan: what is the oyutput of: cat /etc/issue
[21:27] <compdoc> bibi23, you should read the mysql logs in /var/log/mysql/
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: can be useful. Easy managing of sql
[21:27] <chachan> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 13.04
[21:27] <compdoc> you have to gzip the newest one
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> bibi23: ask in #mysql as well
[21:27] <chachan> ActionParsnip, on amd64
[21:29] <xap> hey
[21:29] <chachan> bibi23, are you sure serving for remote connections?, try with: netstat -an | grep 3306 # from server
[21:29] <xap> whatup
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> chachan: is the endpoint a cisco system?
[21:30] <xap> kimse var  mı?
[21:31] <bibi23> chachan: it's showing this line "tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:3306            <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN", I've put <IP_ADDRESS> in mysql conf instead of remote server ip for testing
[21:32] <chachan> ActionParsnip, I need connect to a cisco VPN, but I'm not sure what type of system it is. That connection works great for me but have no idea what crashed it
[21:32] <daftykins> bibi23: you've ruled out firewall i take it
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> !bug 1169283
[21:33] <SubCool> can someone explain to me why my computers are responding to their hostames?
[21:33] <SubCool> maybe one of them.. -
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> subcool: computers should do that.....right?
[21:35] <bibi23> ActionParsnip: so you think it  has nothing to do with ubuntu and I should ask in mysql?
[21:36] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, that is one of the points of a hostname isnt it?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> bibi23: someone in there may have configured the same in Ubuntu and have a pointer or two
[21:36] <Shakaz> does ubtunu work via legacy boot?
[21:36] <Shakaz> if i was to install it
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> subcool: netbios names make communication between systems easier for humans
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> shakaz: what is 'legacy boot'?
[21:38] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, isnt that kinda the same?
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> subcool: same difference, yes
[21:39] <SubCool> id rather stick to Linux/Unix operations.. - not Windows.
[21:39] <SubCool> everything im reading refers to netbios as Windows..
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> subcool: hostnames and netbios are not windowsbspecific
[21:40] <SubCool> the few guides im reading shows netbios names to be assocaited with windows particulars
[21:40] <SubCool> cifs, winbind etc
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> SubCool  but windows is the MainStream for the desktop (kind of)
[21:40] <bekks> SubCool: You want to read about DNS
[21:40] <SubCool> idc..
[21:41] <SubCool> that i dont mind
[21:41] <SubCool> if DNS will fix it- sure..
[21:41] <SubCool> but- im really trying to keep away from Windows
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> subcool: netbios was made in 83. wasnt put into windows til 85
[21:41] <Shakaz> ActionParsnip, idk. but when i try UEFI, my USB drive isn't recognised and it only gets recognised when i change to legacy
[21:41] <SubCool> every guide i've come across mention windows smb stuff to amke netbios work. meanwhile.. my Hostname files isnt doing it.
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> subcool: its a defacto standard and not windows specific
[21:42] <Shakaz> but will ubuntu install in a GPT disk?
[21:42] <Shakaz> or does it have to be MBR
[21:42] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, i know what your saysing.. i coulda sworn it was apart of Novel and such.. or something
[21:42] <daftykins> ubuntu 12.04 and newer will install in UEFI mode to a GPT disk
[21:42] <SubCool> but- everything im searching comes back as windows stuff.
[21:43] <rabidmonkey> Hi, I'm trying to install Kindle for PC v-1.10.6 onto my Ubuntu 12.10 laptop using WINE version 1.4.1. When I do it seems to install fine but then when it tries to automatically run the program after installation it runs into this error message http://pastebin.com/0qngv0Sp
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> subcol: 86 novell netware 2.0 has it
[21:43] <SubCool> one of my 4 machines respond to their hostname
[21:43] <SubCool> my freenas server use to.. not anymore
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> subcool: you'll find people use windows as an example because admins can relate to it
[21:43] <zykotick9> rabidmonkey: you might want to try #winehq for wine specific questions
[21:43] <SubCool> well yeah, windows is #1 for users
[21:44] <SubCool> i keep pushing people to apply in my dialy practice
[21:44] <daftykins> nobody serious relies on hostnames.
[21:44] <rabidmonkey> thx zykotick9
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> subcool: do they respond to ip? maybe dns is failing or they havent published a name to your dhcp server (most likely your home grade router)
[21:45] <SubCool> daftykins, yeah, i know- im jjust aggitated cause o fmy router. my ip's keep changing, and i cant assign them. Not really without issues atleast. So- puttin gin my FStab a HOSTNAMe would make it work. but nope..
[21:45] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, yeah, theey respodne to IP- but.. my ips keep changing
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: sure they do. how do you think email clients function....?
[21:45] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: i'm talking LAN based here :P
[21:45] <SubCool> For instance my Freenas server is usually on .2.4 - but occasionly it ends up on 6 or 8.
[21:45] <daftykins> SubCool: you can set static IPs, there is absolutely no need for the router to support static leases just to allow that.
[21:46] <daftykins> in fact, i advise against DHCP leasing
[21:46] <SubCool> daftykins, yea- i know.. but sometimes the router messes it up and DHCP's an address to someone tablet or something
[21:46] <bibi23> ActionParsnip: mysql guys told me that if I telnet to the port mysql is listening to, even tough my mysql configuration is wrong, I should have mysql responding, but connection refused means it is blocked by a firewall or something before mysql
[21:46] <daftykins> SubCool: well you keep DHCP open for mobile devices of course, but why aren't you running PCs and the NAS on static?
[21:46] <SubCool> maybe i should just assing my machines to addresses further in on the ip range..
[21:47] <SubCool> daftykins, im trying.. thats the problem
[21:47] <SubCool> i have a crappy ISP router..
[21:47] <Shakaz> does anyone know?
[21:47] <SubCool> and sooner or later imma run a VPN
[21:47] <daftykins> SubCool: yes, the way to do it is to modify the DHCP scope to (for example) <IP_ADDRESS>-100 then allow the static devices to exist in the gap afterwards - e.g. .101 - .254
[21:47] <Shakaz> will ubuntu install on a GPT disk or does it have to be MBR?
[21:48] <daftykins> Shakaz: i already answered this above
[21:48] <SubCool> daftykins, yeah, now that we have been tlaking about it- thats what i was thinking
[21:48] <daftykins> ubuntu 12.04 and newer will install in UEFI mode to a GPT disk
[21:48] <Shakaz> daftykins, it would help if you could highlight me.there are about 10 conversations going on.
[21:48] <Shakaz> daftykins what about legacy/GPT?
[21:48] <daftykins> Shakaz: it would help if you paid more attention.
[21:49] <daftykins> pro tip - do not tell helpers what to do.
[21:49] <SubCool> daftykins, i just kinda prefer my hostnames thing worked.. :/
[21:49] <daftykins> !uefi
[21:49] <Shakaz> daftykins, problem is. when i enable UEFI setting in BIOS, it doesn't recognise my USB to boot
[21:49] <daftykins> 'fast boot' disabled?
[21:49] <tables> how do i do full disk encryption on ubuntu from the set up?  i have the 12.04 cd
[21:50] <SubCool> k- well i have normal work to d- so il catch u guy later
[21:50] <Shakaz> it's a scaled down BIOS from SONY daftykins, it's not the regular bios. but secureboot is disabled.
[21:50] <daftykins> tables: i saw you ask this earlier, i'm sure there are plenty of guides and documentation on the ubuntu site to be had
[21:50] <tables> i can't find any
[21:50] <daftykins> Shakaz: so there's no 'fast boot' option?
[21:50] <tables> can you help me?
[21:50] <tables> i tried google already
[21:50] <daftykins> so the whole internet has no single guide on encryption with ubuntu?
[21:51] <Shakaz> not one that I can see daftykins
[21:51] <daftykins> Shakaz: how did you make your USB flash drive up, with which ubuntu also?
[21:52] <tables> daftykins: not from the set up livecd
[21:52] <gordonjcp> daftykins: a quick google suggests there is lots of information about using full disk encryption on Ubuntu
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> tables: its part of the install process as an option. just dont encrypt swap
[21:53] <Shakaz> no daftykins, i made it a bootable media with one of the programs on windows 7 (my other pc)
[21:54] <daftykins> Shakaz: i meant which ubuntu is on it? which program did you use then? unetbootin has issues with making UEFI boot drives
[21:55] <Shakaz> 13.04
[21:55] <Shakaz> 64bit
[21:55] <Shakaz> desktop*
[21:56] <daftykins> Shakaz: "One of the programs" is pretty vague
[21:56] <Shakaz> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[21:56] <daftykins> ah ok
[21:57] <Shakaz> the bootable USB isn't recognised when i set it to UEFI
[21:57] <Shakaz> only gets recognised when it's in legacy mode
[21:57] <Shakaz> so i'm wondering whether ubuntu will install in legacy and on GPT drive
[21:58] <Shakaz> or do I have unpartition all the drives on windows 8 (effectively remove windows 8) and hope to god that by converting it to MBR and using legacy it works?
[21:58] <daftykins> Shakaz: does this system have USB3 and USB2 ports? you're trying the 2 only yeah?
[21:58] <Shakaz> i'll call up my manufacturer later on tommorow
[21:58] <Shakaz> i've tried all the USB ports on the device.
[21:58] <daftykins> cold booting also?
[21:59] <Shakaz> cold booting? i havent heard of that before
[21:59] <daftykins> power up from off
[22:00] <daftykins> versus keeping a system on and say, trying repeatedly to boot with ctrl+alt+del
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> shakaz: pressing the power button to turn on the system is a cold boot. a warm boot is when you tell your OS to reboot the system
[22:01] <Shakaz> oh ok i've done that before.
[22:01] <Shakaz> yes i've done cold booting, it just won't recognise the usb device unless it's a legacy boot
[22:01] <Shakaz> and for some reason I have GPT drives
[22:02] <Shakaz> when on my other device from the same manufacturer (same HDD size) i have MBR drives
[22:02] <daftykins> Shakaz: did you say it was a Sony? they're real pains in the ass. have you checked for any 'BIOS' (BIOS/UEFI) updates?
[22:04] <Shakaz> it is.
[22:04] <mr-rich> Ubuntu 13.04 on System76 Gazelle. Launched FireFox a second screen via HDMI and tried to full screen a video ... it went full screen on my laptop, not the TV ... How do I tell FF or whatever to full screen on the TV?
[22:04] <Extreminador> guys i have mess with a option in compiz and now i can´t see any menu on desktop...
[22:04] <Shakaz> http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/product/SVF1421C5E/updates daftykins can you find one?
[22:04] <Extreminador> how can i move back ?
[22:04] <Shakaz> i certainly can't
[22:05] <Extreminador> forget i got it... i set up a terminal
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: does it do the same with all browsers?
[22:06] <daftykins> Shakaz: if you installed ubuntu in legacy mode beside, win8 i assume? you'd be able to use it but likely you'd have to go into the BIOS and switch UEFI boot off and on to switch OS each time
[22:06] <daftykins> i've seen people do that in here. heh.
[22:07] <mr-rich> ActionParsnip: no ... Chrome will full screen to the TV, but the audio/video is not synced ...
[22:08] <Ca11um> How can I install Adobe Flash for FireFox on Ubuntu 13.04?
[22:08] <mr-rich> ActionParsnip: on FF, the audio/video is synced ...
[22:08] <Extreminador> guys is there any command to make force compiz use the default options ?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: did firefox start on the tv?
[22:09] <_krambiorix> hi guys, how can i put more padding between the icons  in the top panel?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> extreminador: try renaming ~/.config/compiz and restart compiz
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> ca11um: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:11] <Extreminador> ActionParsnip will try
[22:11] <mr-rich> ActionParsnip: I launced FF on the TV ...
[22:12] <mr-rich> ActionParsnip: first, I closed it on the laptop screen and re-opened it on the TV screen ...
[22:12] <mr-rich> ActionParsnip: twice
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: is the tv set as the primary display?
[22:12] <mr-rich> No
[22:13] <mr-rich> ActionParsnip: no ... is that under display settings?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: not sure. worth a look
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: its a thing in windows. maybe ubuntu has similar. i dont use multimonitor in ubuntu. i have 1 screen for 4 systems
[22:14] <Ca11um> ActionParsnip, a GUI license agreement has appeared for ttf-mscorefonts-installer, but I cannot select <Ok>
[22:14] <Sach> Ubuntun 12.04 keeps freezing on me.  Can I identify the cause of this somehow by generating a report in the terminal??
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> ca11um: use tab and enter
[22:14] <Ca11um> Ah thanks
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> sach: test ram using memtest86 from grub
[22:15] <confusedfluffy> Hey, Ubuntu 13.04 can't find a network configuration at all, I've tried editing my network interfaces, removing the delay on finding it, but it still isn't working. Anyone had this problem?
[22:15] <_krambiorix> hi guys, how can i put more padding between the icons  in the top panel?
[22:15] <Galaxor> Hi.  After installing grub with grub-install, it still boots to windows 8 and doesn't go to grub.  Meanwhile, update-grub fails to detect windows 8.  This is all using efi (no secure boot enabled), and gpt.
[22:15] <Extreminador> ActionParsnip i think it not work.. but i am rebooting
[22:16] <Extreminador> yehh did not work :(
[22:16] <haseo_> hey everybody.
[22:16] <Extreminador> let me check if i can open the window of compiz
[22:17] <Andy397> Hi guys, Sorry to ask such a stupid question but I've just booted from an Ubuntu live CD and it's asking for a username and password. Looked it up and it says use "ubuntu" & "blank" but that doesn't work. Any ideas please?
[22:17] <Sach> ActionPArsnip: you mean "sudo chmod +x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+" from terminal?
[22:18] <confusedfluffy> Hey, Ubuntu 13.04 can't find a network configuration at all, I've tried editing my network interfaces, removing the delay on finding it, but it still isn't working. Anyone had this problem?
[22:18] <haseo_> i need help connecting to the internet with ubuntu. a wireless internet connection actually.
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> sach: no. hold shift at boot and select memtest
[22:18] <haseo_> its not connecting at all. with windows xp it works
[22:19] <mr-rich> ActionParsnip: I just put the tv on top of the laptop monitor in settings and that did what I wanted ... thanks ...
[22:19] <daftykins> haseo_: what wireless device do you have?
[22:19] <Extreminador> ActionParsnip removing compiz
[22:19] <haseo_> um im not sure.
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> andy397: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and run: passwd ubuntu
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> andy397: then press CTRL+ALT+F7 and log in
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> extreminador: how will that help?
[22:20] <confusedfluffy> Hey, Ubuntu 13.04 can't find a network configuration at all, I've tried editing my network interfaces, removing the delay on finding it, but it still isn't working. Anyone had this problem?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: not bad for a guess
[22:21] <Extreminador> lol ActionParsnip it seems on nothing
[22:21] <haseo_> daftykins: im not sure. ill look it up.
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> extreminador: the configs are in $HOME and are not changed when you remove compiz. So removing and reinstalling compiz changes nothing
[22:22] <Andy397> ActionParsnip, Thanks mate. "Ctr+Alt+F1" = Row after row of "Authentication failure"? There is no cursor to input a pword.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> andy397: try hitting enter a few times, or ALT+CTRL+F2
[22:23] <Extreminador> yehh ActionParsnip now i know that
[22:23] <Extreminador> hehehe
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> extreminador: there will be guides all over. Or ask in #compiz
[22:24] <Andy397> ActionParsnip: All of them are the same except for the gui x
[22:24] <Extreminador> there is a compix channel nice
[22:24] <Extreminador> thanks
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> andy397: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloadedñ
[22:24] <jater> Is it normal I sleep with my eyes closed?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> jater: very
[22:25] <oiaw> is there a lightweight ubuntu version with the unity interface? thanks
[22:25] <Sach> ActionParsnip: http://picpaste.com/DSC02650-49fxRcD3.JPG
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> oiaw: if you run compiz as a standaline wm younwill get a light-ish OS
[22:25] <haseo_> daftykins: i found out what kind of wireless adapters i have
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> oiaw: standalone*
[22:25] <Fyodorovna> oiaw, not  from canonical
[22:25] <daftykins> haseo_: yeah?
[22:26] <Andy397> ActionParsnip: MD5 test? Sorry mate but what does that mean?
[22:26] <pacer> hi can someone can give me a working server for linknet please
[22:26] <pacer> not ssl
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | andy397
[22:27] <Andy397> ActionParsnip: I'll go check it out. Thanks again mate.
[22:27] <haseo_> daftykins: its 3 actually.i have a 1394 Net Adapter #6, Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx  Gigabit Controller #2, and a Dell wireless 1490 dual band Wlan Mini-card
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> sach397: let it run a while. if you get no errors then you can isolate ram issues as not the cause of the issue
[22:29] <daftykins> haseo_: does your wired connection work?
[22:29] <haseo_> daftykins: yes that works. but i prefer not to use it.
[22:30] <daftykins> haseo_: indeed, it's just the method by which to get internet access to fix your issue
[22:30] <daftykins> haseo_: run the commands in the second post here whilst connected with a network cable: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139168/dell-1390-wireless-bcm4311-ubuntu-12-04-no-wireless-icon-in-unity
[22:31] <zykotick9> oiaw: unity and "lightweight" don't go together ;)
[22:32] <c4ifford> So help.ubuntu.com shows that in the wireless config tutorial that are /etc/init.d/wpa.sh files needed by wpa_supplicant which I have installed but those files are not there
[22:32] <haseo_> daftykins: i need to be running ubuntu right. for this? im running windows xp right now.
[22:34] <daftykins> haseo_: yep
[22:34] <confusedfluffy> Hey, Ubuntu 13.04 can't find a network configuration at all, I've tried editing my network interfaces, removing the delay on finding it, but it still isn't working. Anyone had this problem? Also, it is saying my eth0 is *-network disabled, how do I reenable it?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> confusedfluffy: does the interface have a driver module loaded for it?
[22:35] <haseo_> daftykins: oh ok. thank you ill see how it goes.
[22:36] <confusedfluffy> ActionParsnip: I don't know, how would I find out?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> confusedfluffy: sudo lshw -C network
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> confusedfluffy: if it doesnt have a driver loaded then its pointless setting IPs
[22:37] <pacer> anyone ?
[22:38] <confusedfluffy> ActionParsnip: According to this eth0 is loading and 'working' and then there is a eth1 which is disabled,they both have driver=r8169
[22:38] <c4ifford> So can anyone confirm or deny that there is an issue with mixmode WPA2-PSK encyrption, i've been fighting this issue all day to no avail
[22:39] <c4ifford> I'm running 12.04 stable and i've tried just about everything to get this adapter to work
[22:41] <daftykins> c4ifford: if it's WPA2 what do you mean by mixed mode?
[22:42] <c4ifford> daftykins: the PSK extention
[22:43] <c4ifford> daftykins: or just WPA2 in general, can't seem to get it working
[22:43] <daftykins> pre shared key conveys nothing of mixed modes
[22:43] <c4ifford> ok
[22:43] <confusedfluffy> ActionParsnip: Any ideas?
[22:44] <c4ifford> daftykins: I've tried to connect via network manager, and through wric , now going through trying to find the options to do it manually form the configs
[22:45] <daftykins> what settings are your router/AP using?
[22:45] <Clearcoat_Ben> installed Ubuntu 12.04, but OS selection screen not coming up when starting, goes straight to W7. If I hit F12 to select boot options it only lists the main disk which resorts to W7. Any ideas?
[22:45] <c4ifford> daftykins: wpa2-psk with AES
[22:46] <c4ifford> daftykins: I removed network manager trying to follow one of the guides that had stated that it was an issue with the way wpasupplicant sent the info
[22:47] <c4ifford> daftykins: it would see the AP, and attempt to connect and just time out every time
[22:48] <daftykins> i'm sure there are lots of people out there running wireless with that config
[22:48] <daftykins> if they understand security...
[22:49] <c4ifford> daftykins: agreed, and i've had every flavor of unix connected without any issue until now
[22:49] <zykotick9> c4ifford: my /etc/network/interfaces with WPA2 (nothing else) with static (if you want DHCP, just uncomment line 2 and comment lines 3-8 at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6056954/
[22:50] <c4ifford> zykotick9: and that's all I should need? the help guide I'm reading says something abou wpa_supplicant having config settings and some init scripts as well
[22:50] <zykotick9> c4ifford: you need wpasupplicant for that to work!
[22:51] <c4ifford> zykotick9: correct, it's installed
[22:51] <c4ifford> zykotick9: i haven't configured anythign though
[22:51] <zykotick9> c4ifford: i don't think you need to.  i don't do anything but install it, then use that interfaces file.
[22:52] <szymon_g> hi
[22:52] <c4ifford> zykotick9: Ok let me give this a whirl
[22:52] <szymon_g> how can i generate Xorg.conf file? X -configure (while xorg is off) doesn't seem to generate proper one
[22:53] <zykotick9> szymon_g: are you using nvidia?  why do you need one?
[22:53] <c4ifford> zykotick9: actually one quick thing, do I need to generate wpa_passphrase? or do I just take my PSK and stick it in?
[22:53] <Marlenee> i run my programme in background bt using at the end of the command "&" after i log out my session on my server i log in again and i see the programme is not running and its shutdown ??????
[22:53] <haseo_> im back.
[22:53] <hanran> Hi there  everyone :)
[22:54] <zykotick9> c4ifford: that depends on your wireless router/ap/etc - i don't know.
[22:54] <daftykins> Marlenee: sure because you logged out...
[22:54] <bekks> Marlenee: Thats intended. & puts a program in the background of the job queue of the running shell. No running shell anymore, no backgound process. If you want to put it into backgound and detach it from the shell, use nohup cmd &
[22:55] <hanran> Has anyone here ever used OCRfeeder?
[22:55] <Marlenee> daftykins : i need to run it in back ground even if i logout
[22:55] <haseo_> daftykins: im on ubuntu right now installing the things i needed. what do i do now?
[22:55] <bekks> Marlenee: Then use nohup cmd &
[22:55] <szymon_g> zykotick9, i'm using laptop with intel and nvidia graphics card. i wanna to use both of them with custom kernel
[22:56] <Marlenee> what is nohup cmd &   ???
[22:56] <bekks> Marlenee: a shell command to run cmd even if you close the connection.
[22:57] <daftykins> Marlenee: then either daemon-ise it, or run it with something like screen
[22:58] <Marlenee> i know how to do that in screen but i dont like to use it because screen make my server is very slow and take alot of memory
[22:58] <Marlenee> you can tell me how to daemon-ise it ??
[22:59] <bekks> Marlenee: screen uses just a few megabytes of RAM. I strongly suspect screen is causing your server to be slow.
[23:00] <Marlenee> just sec
[23:00] <justin__> when i try to install ubuntu i get the following errors: "error: failure reading sectore 0x4f500 from 'cd0'." and " 0.323258] Kernal panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) "
[23:00] <bekks> justin__: your installation cd is corrupted.
[23:00] <Marlenee> bekks : i will show you pic from htop when i use screen
[23:00] <justin__> the md5sum is good though, and its like the third CD i've tried
[23:01] <bekks> justin__: but the cd is broken - or the drive even.
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> justin__, how fast are you burning
[23:01] <justin__> as slow as i can 3x
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> justin__, No usb"?
[23:01] <justin__> when i burn a cd for chakra linux or fedora it works
[23:02] <justin__> wilee-nilee: I guess I'll try a usb
[23:02] <justin__> if you guys really think its the cd drive
[23:02] <Marlenee> !paste
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> justin__, I have had the md5 be right and still be messed up.
[23:02] <zykotick9> szymon_g: honestly, hybrid graphics is something i know basically nothing about...  i don't have the h/w.  best of luck.  FYI, i hope you've looked into bumblebee and it's alternatives.  for a regular nvidia xorg.conf, using "sudo nvidia-xconfig" should generate a valid one, but for hybrid - I HAVE NO IDEA HOW IT WORKS.  best of luck.
[23:03] <justin__> wilee-nilee: the iso be messed up?
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> justin__, Yes.
[23:03] <Marlenee> bekks : see this pic -  http://imagebin.org/269602
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> nsrare but it happem
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> rare*
[23:03] <justin__> wilee-nilee: so should I not use the same iso on a flash drive? and instead find somewhere else to download another iso?
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> justin__, I would change the iso to the torrent name and check it with a torrent app
[23:04] <bekks> Marlenee: So whats the output of "lsb_release -a; uname -a; screen -v"?
[23:04] <zykotick9> szymon_g: fyi, [don't worry about it!] but using nvidia-xconfig isn't the "greatest" thing in the world to use, there are some "bugs" with it.  but it has always WFM.
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> or just download it again it is hard to say what is going on, the one I had with a bad md5 was finew same download same place on another justin__
[23:05] <justin__> wilee-nilee: i downloaded it with a torrent
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> justin__, Hard to say it just is not working, there may be know known actual answer, things happen.
[23:06] <szymon_g> zykotick9, thanx :/. I was also going to include the better settings for touchpad
[23:07] <justin__> wilee-nilee: i guess i was just wondering if there was something wrong with my partitions or grub or bios or something that was messing it up
[23:07] <justin__> wilee-nilee: I'll try a flash drive :/ I hope it works
[23:08] <Marlenee> bekks : here is  -  see this pic -  http://imagebin.org/269602
[23:08] <Marlenee> bekks : sorry this one     -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6056997/
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> justin__, Where did you get the torrent link?
[23:09] <bekks> Marlenee: Thats a virtual private server, isnt it?
[23:09] <zykotick9> szymon_g: do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory?  if so, i might be able to put the two separate (1 nvidia, 1 touchpad) in there somehow, and that would be the "closest" to right answer that i'm aware of... but best of luck, hopefully you'll figure it all out.
[23:09] <Marlenee> bekks : yes
[23:09] <zykotick9> s/i might/you might/,
[23:10] <justin__> wilee-nilee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu the official website
[23:10] <szymon_g> zykotick9, no directory like that :<
[23:10] <bekks> Marlenee: so how much RAM (according to htop) is the process inside screen using?
[23:11] <zykotick9> szymon_g: ummmm... well, i got nothing further to suggest.  best of luck!
[23:11] <Marlenee> bekks : 2816 MB RAM
[23:11] <szymon_g> ah, i've got it. /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics
[23:11] <szymon_g> :)
[23:11] <zykotick9> nice
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> justin__, You could try a mini download and do a net install as well.
[23:12] <bekks> Marlenee: So you have another problem rather than screen using your memory - its the application you are running.
[23:13] <szymon_g> indeed :)
[23:13] <Marlenee> bekks : i show you that when i just start the screen and i dont run in thing inside it  thats why i dont like to use screen !!
[23:13] <zykotick9> szymon_g: for nvidia you might be able to use something like this: echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
[23:15] <chalcedony> i have a ubuntu computer 13.04 that won't let me ssh into it, i can ssh out. i want to wrk on it remotely?
[23:15] <Trel> are there any editions of ubuntu that do not require PAE?
[23:16] <zykotick9> Trel: (i could be wrong) but i don't think so.  i believe debian still has a non-PAE option.
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> Trel, You can use the mini on any.
[23:17] <zykotick9> Trel: or is there a way to disable PAE on ubuntu somehow?
[23:17] <hanran> l
[23:17] <hanran> Sorry
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> Trel, The pae's are on the downloads is all, the mini is a net install will work.
[23:19] <snake_> hello. Brasero has this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549272 too. and I was wondering if there was a program that could do what this bug report describes.
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> snake_, What OS are you running?
[23:20] <snake_> wilee-nilee, Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit.
[23:20] <bekks> snake_: So which version of brasero do you use on which Ubuntu version?
[23:20] <Marlenee> bekks :  how to daemon-ise applicaton instead of using screen command ???
[23:20] <bekks> Marlenee: nohup cmd &
[23:21] <snake_> bekks brasero 3.4.1
[23:23] <Marlenee> bekks :  man page "nohup" provide no option just the command
[23:23] <Trel> wilee-nilee: this is for an older laptop, I can't use wired for the net install.
[23:24] <bekks> Marlenee: it needs no option. Just replace "cmd" with your command you want to run.
[23:24] <Marlenee> how i bring it to foreground to see the application work and result and bing it back to background
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> snake_, THe only thing I notice is how old that bug report is and the OS it mentions is not even supported, nor ubuntu, file a bug with ubuntu on your problem.
[23:24] <zykotick9> bekks: does nohup and & on the same command make sence?
[23:25] <snake_> wilee-nilee, I'm currently having this issue, and I need to know if there is a way to fix it or if there is another program that will do this.
[23:25] <Marlenee> bekks : ?
[23:25] <bekks> Marlenee: Thats not possible. You cannot see any output, unless you make your command log everything. Or you just "tail -f nohup.out"
[23:25] <bekks> Marlenee: At least gimme the time to answer...
[23:25] <bekks> zykotick9: Sure, it sends nohup to the background :)
[23:26] <zykotick9> Marlenee: <i don't see you> but you might want to check out screen or tmux, for keeping things running in the background - that you can re-open/interact with.
[23:26] <Marlenee> check that -    nohup cmd > output.txt &
[23:26] <Trel> So there's no way to install it on this laptop it doesn't look like.  Only thing I could find was lubuntu and xbuntu in version 12 were non-pae, but now they're not anymore.
[23:26] <Marlenee> bekks : ^^
[23:26] <bekks> Marlenee: Nope.
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> Trel, The mini will instal, do a net install.
[23:26] <bekks> Marlenee: nohup produces the nohup.out logfile without any further options.
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> Trel, I don't believe you have to have pae kernels on any release.
[23:27] <Marlenee> bekks : if i perform it like that -    nohup cmd > output.txt &   so it willnot work
[23:28] <bekks> Marlenee: Correct. And it is not needed. nohup produces the nohup.out logfile.
[23:28] <Marlenee> bekks : nohup just use one file to save the log !
[23:28] <Trel> wilee-nilee: how then would I install them....I couldn't even use the non-live install option from lubuntu.  Wired install is not an option.
[23:29] <bekks> Marlenee: I know. nohup produces the nohup.out logfile...
[23:29] <Marlenee> bekks : what if i want to run 3 command using no hup and save the output it may be miss with output ???
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> Trel, The mini install, which by the way if you ndaon;t know what that is say so.
[23:29] <bekks> Marlenee: Then you have to run three nohup cmd & instances. And please dont abuse your ., ! and ? keys.
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> don't*
[23:29] <Marlenee> bekks : its just one file in nohup.out
[23:30] <snake_> wilee-nilee, nevermind that last message. I do not need to fix the bug in brasero. is there another application that you might recommend that can burn a lot of data onto multiple discs
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> Trel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:31] <Marlenee> bekks : if i run it 3 time instance the output is still in same one output file no 3 output file
[23:31] <Trel> wilee-nilee: Wired install is not an option.
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> Trel, Then you are stuck.
[23:33] <bekks> Marlenee: Then run your three nohups from three different directories.
[23:34] <altaco>  /msg NickServ identify jpg571
[23:34] <snake_> wilee-nilee, I am asking in #opensource :) they might have a recommendation :P
[23:36] <socrates_johnson> hello, I would like to install ubuntu from a usb in legacy/bios mode, but I can only boot the usb as uefi. Any suggestions?
[23:36] <daftykins> socrates_johnson: most BIOS/UEFI setups list boot devices twice, once for legacy and once for UEFI. do you not see this behaviour?
[23:37] <MrObvious> Question. My work uses EAP-FAST. I can't seem to get it working with Network Manager.
[23:37] <MrObvious> But I can configure it manually with just wpa_supplicant.
[23:37] <MrObvious> I have the entries ssid, key_mgmt=WPA_EAP, eap=FAST, identity="username", password="password", phase1="fast_provisioning=3" and pac_file="/tmp/wpa_supplicant.pac".
[23:37] <socrates_johnson> daftykins: if I use a cd/dvd I see two listings, but booting from usb only results in one listing
[23:37] <MrObvious> How would I configure it on 13.04?
[23:37] <daftykins> socrates_johnson: interesting, could be worth writing a CD/DVD
[23:38] <MrObvious> http://askubuntu.com/questions/179435/problem-connecting-to-eap-fast-wireless It's similar to this.
[23:38] <socrates_johnson> daftykins: I can do that, but, longer-term, I was planning to replace the disk drive with an ssd so I was just wondering how that would go in the future
[23:39] <socrates_johnson> daftykins: do "most people" just have gpt disks and do uefi installs now?
[23:39] <daftykins> socrates_johnson: it's becoming the forced-norm due to the way laptops coming with Windows 8 are going, yeah
[23:40] <socrates_johnson> daftykins: okay, thanks. can you still just do partitioning with gparted, etc.? i've just avoided the gpt/uefi things until now
[23:41] <daftykins> socrates_johnson: i'm not sure that gparted can handle GPT stuff
[23:41] <snake_> wilee-nilee, I'm going to try imgburn
[23:41] <snake_> I used this site to find some alts but they need to support multiple disks http://alternativeto.net/software/brasero/?platform=linux&license=free
[23:43] <reveldevel> any way to access logs of this channel from 13:19 today? ...to avoid asking question again; was disconnected before i got a response...
[23:44] <reveldevel> or can copy/paste...
[23:44] <socrates_johnson> daftykins: okay interesting, is there an equivalent graphical tool you would recommend?
[23:45] <chalcedony> i have a ubuntu computer 13.04 that won't let me ssh into it, i can ssh out. i want to wrk on it remotely?
[23:46] <chalcedony> can someone help please?
[23:46] <daftykins> socrates_johnson: i've no further experience i'm afraid, i might even be remembering wrong - might be worth looking up gparted and GPT support online
[23:46] <socrates_johnson> daftykins: okay, i'll look into it further. thank you for your input!
[23:46] <daftykins> np :)
[23:47] <zykotick9> socrates_johnson: ahhh, just to be clear, gpt and uefi are separate things!  i use gpt (for 3TB+ support), but i don't have any uefi hardware...
[23:48] <haseo_> hello.
[23:49] <haseo_> i tried connecting to my wireless internet connection and it doesnt work. ive already installed the drivers and also did the terminal command.
[23:50] <daftykins> haseo_: hello again, how did it go?
[23:51] <haseo_> daftykins: not working -.-
[23:51] <haseo_> still.
[23:52] <daftykins> haseo_: you were able to run those commands ok?
[23:53] <reveldevel> need help resetting login key ring password to match new (reset from admin) user account password
[23:53] <haseo_> daftykins:  yes the commands ran without any problems.
[23:54] <daftykins> haseo_: nothing appeared on the network manager icon at all to show wireless was there?
[23:54] <reveldevel> yesterday i reset my user account password from admin account, due to being locked out. while i have regained access to the user account at large, i have not regained access to the password file and some sudo actions.
[23:54] <reveldevel> any help is appreciated
[23:55] <zykotick9> reveldevel: if you run "groups" in a terminal, does it show sudo?
[23:55] <socrates_johnson> zykotick9: thank you, i admittedly don't entirely understand all of the details. i have uefi hardware, but i've been installing things in legacy mode until now
[23:56] <zykotick9> socrates_johnson: i just wanted you to be aware that gpt has nothing to do, with the uefi stuff (which i know nothing about).  ;)
[23:56] <haseo_> daftykins: what kind of icon? right now i see two arows going in oposite directions cause im using a wired internet connection
[23:56] <daftykins> haseo_: yep left clicking on that, do you see a tick beside 'wireless' ?
[23:58] <socrates_johnson> zykotick9: i appreciate that. i've been trying to make my default gpt (with uefi) windows laptop behave like the mbr (with legacy bios) systems i'm more comfortable with, but next time i reformat i guess i'll "modernize" or whatever
[23:59] <zykotick9> socrates_johnson: gpt replace MSDOS partition type, which has 2 cool benefits: 1) support for large disks 3TB+ stuff & 2) no 4 primary partition limit, just nice sda sdb sdc sdd sde etc. ;)
[23:59] <haseo_> daftykins: it doesnt say wireless at all. it just says wired connection 1, disconnect, VPN connections, enable networking ( with a check next to it.) connection info and edit connections.
[23:59] <MrObvious> Any EAP folks here?


[14:48]  * gmb goes to get a brew pre-meeting
[15:00] <barry> #startmeeting
[15:00] <barry> ha ha
[15:00] <barry> hello and welcome to this week's ameu launchpad reveiwer's meeting
[15:00] <barry> who's here today?
[15:00] <bigjools> fail :)
[15:00] <flacoste> me
[15:00] <bigjools> me
[15:00] <bac> me
[15:00] <gmb> me
[15:00] <bigjools> moo
[15:01] <schwuk> me
[15:01] <allenap> me
[15:01] <salgado> me
[15:01] <intellectronica> ME
[15:02] <intellectronica> whoops
[15:02] <BjornT> me
[15:02] <barry> allenap, danilos ping
[15:02]  * gmb tries to persuade a rather persistently stupid wasp to leave the office
[15:02] <allenap> me
[15:02] <EdwinGrubbs> me
[15:02] <barry> EdwinGrubbs: welcome!
[15:02] <EdwinGrubbs> thanks
[15:03] <statik> me
[15:03] <barry> statik: ping
[15:03] <barry> :)
[15:03] <sinzu1> me
[15:03] <sinzui> me me
[15:03] <barry> == Agenda ==
[15:03] <barry>  * Roll call
[15:03] <barry>  * Next meeting
[15:03] <barry>  * Action items
[15:03] <barry>  * Queue status
[15:03] <barry>  * Mentoring update
[15:03] <barry>  * Review process
[15:03] <barry> next meeting week += 1?
[15:03] <barry> anybody know you won't be here or will be sprinting?
[15:04] <flacoste> sinzui and I will be sprinting
[15:04] <flacoste> but we should be able to attend
[15:04] <barry> cool, thanks
[15:04] <barry>  * Action items
[15:05]  * barry is teh suck this week
[15:05] <barry>  * barry drive to decision about multiline sequences
[15:05] <barry>  * barry to solicit ideas to better handle review scheduling and workload
[15:05] <barry> not done, but i will do them this week
[15:05] <barry>  * gmb to add lpreview to sourcecode and hack rf-setup to link it in
[15:05] <gmb> It's in sourcecode.
[15:05] <gmb> Thanks to mthaddon
[15:06] <mthaddon> de rien
[15:06] <gmb> I'll get the rf-setup change reviewed and landed today.
[15:06] <barry> gmb: excellent.  will that link in our ~/.bazaar/plugins directory?
[15:06] <gmb> Yep.
[15:06] <barry> fantastic
[15:06] <barry> thanks!
[15:07] <barry>  * gmb to prod mwh again about the 800-line limit patch
[15:07] <gmb> I emailed him last nigh
[15:07] <gmb> But since he's sprinting I suspect we won't hear back until next week.
[15:07] <gmb> barry: Let's leave this on the agenda for next week
[15:07] <gmb> Lest I forget again :)
[15:08] <barry> gmb: cool.  will do.  we'll leave the lpreview one on too, until the rf link branch lands
[15:08] <gmb> Sure.
[15:08] <barry> gmb: thanks
[15:08] <barry>  * sinzui to update js style guide page with helpful resources
[15:08] <sinzui> Not done
[15:08]  * sinzui has time on Thursday to do it
[15:08] <barry> sinzui: we'll just continue this one then, right?
[15:08] <flacoste> barry: didn't you took a decision about multiline sequences?
[15:08] <sinzui> barry: yes please
[15:09] <statik> sinzui: possibly relevent, there is a new douglas crockford book coming out called javascript: the good parts
[15:09] <barry> flacoste: oh, you're right.  i even updated the python style guide.  jeebus, where is my brain?
[15:09] <bigjools> that won't be very big then
[15:09] <intellectronica> statik: beware of crockford's advice, though. it's not always good
[15:10] <sinzui> statik: I nice *small* book about modern and compatible ECMAScript would be nice.
[15:10] <statik> yeah, I hope this one is tiny
[15:11] <barry>  * sinzui or flacoste to add sampledata check to lpreview or make lint
[15:11] <flacoste> i suck
[15:11] <flacoste> completely forgot about that
[15:11] <flacoste> i can at least file a bug :-)
[15:11] <barry> flacoste: cool, that would be great
[15:12] <barry>  * Queue status
[15:13] <barry> queue looks pretty good to me.  the only pink branch is our old favorite bazillion year old stub branch
[15:13] <barry> any comments on the queue?
[15:14] <gmb> Can't that branch be made w-i-p?
[15:14] <gmb> I mean, it's ossifying there at the top of the queue.#
[15:14] <barry> gmb: i tried to do that once but jamesh didn't want me to
[15:14] <barry> gmb: but i will push for that again at the next asiapac
[15:15] <gmb> Okay.
[15:15] <barry>  * Mentoring update
[15:15] <barry> any word from mentors or mentorees?
[15:15] <barry> EdwinGrubbs: how's it going?  getting some branches to review?
[15:16] <EdwinGrubbs> barry: no, I haven't reviewed anything since salgado's oncall day
[15:16] <gmb> EdwinGrubbs: That's a Thursday, right?
[15:16] <barry> EdwinGrubbs: that's okay, i'm sure you'll get some tomorrow
[15:16] <EdwinGrubbs> of course, I haven't checked PendingReviews to see if anything is assigned to me
[15:17] <barry> EdwinGrubbs: that reminds me.  i've been using bac's cron script.  i highly recommend it
[15:17] <barry> when there's no change to my queue, it stays quiet, but i get the occasional email when there's an update to my queue.  it works really well. you should all check it out
[15:17]  * barry thanks bac
[15:18] <bac> np
[15:18]  * sinzui ponders a dbus message from PR
[15:18] <barry> :)
[15:18] <EdwinGrubbs> bac: where is that cronscript? I just have your getreview.py script.
[15:18] <bac> that would be cool
[15:18] <bigjools> XMPP message
[15:19] <schwuk> twitter!
[15:19] <bigjools> eugh
[15:19] <bac> EdwinGrubbs:  bzr+ssh://devpad.canonical.com/code/bac/launchpad/pr_notify
[15:19] <gmb> sinzui: Put it through libnotify / notify-bin
[15:20] <schwuk> bigjools: luddite
[15:20] <barry> bac: is there a link to that from TipsForReviewers?
[15:20] <statik> easily integrated with intellectronica's twit.py
[15:20] <sinzui> gmb: yep
[15:20] <bac> barry: no, but i'll add one
[15:20] <barry> bac: thanks
[15:20] <schwuk> statik: ?
[15:20] <bigjools> schwuk: communication junkie
[15:21] <barry> any other mentoring news?
[15:21] <barry>  * Review process
[15:21] <barry> there's just bac's proposed item...
[15:21] <barry>  * Discourage use of 'hasattr' (bac)
[15:22] <barry> bac: the floor is yours
[15:22] <flacoste> hasattr is evil because it catches exceptions
[15:22] <bac> i wasn't aware of the problem with hasattr until the discussion today.
[15:22]  * sinzui 'attr' in obj.__dict__:
[15:22] <bac> so should we put that on our check list or PSG
[15:22] <flacoste> we should define a safe_hasattr in lazr.utils and uses that instead
[15:22] <bac> flacoste: +1
[15:23] <intellectronica> sinzui: that doesn't always work, does it?
[15:23] <barry> flacoste: i think people should just be trained to use getattr(foo, name, None) instead
[15:23] <flacoste> it doesn't with decoarators
[15:23] <flacoste> intellectronica: ^^
[15:23] <sinzui> intellectronica: I was being sarcastic
[15:23] <flacoste> or any other descriptors
[15:23] <flacoste> barry: i think if safe_hasattr(obj, 'attr'):
[15:24] <flacoste> is easier to udnertsand
[15:24] <bac> i did a quick look and we're using hasattr 24 times in our codebase
[15:24] <flacoste> than if getattr(obj, 'attr', None) is not None
[15:24] <barry> flacoste: yeah, but then i have to look up safe_hasattr() to see what it actually does ;)
[15:24] <flacoste> barry: c.'mon :-)
[15:24] <barry> otoh, if it's this instead, then i can get behind it:
[15:24] <barry> missing = object()
[15:25] <intellectronica> maybe you should call it can_getattr :)
[15:25] <barry> return getattr(obj, name, missing) is missing
[15:25] <flacoste> barry: yes, that was my plan
[15:25] <barry> er, is not missing
[15:25]  * flacoste realized that he just got himself anothe action item
[15:25] <allenap> Why not just catch the AttributeError explicitly ourselves, and ban hasattr?
[15:25] <barry> intellectronica: maybe i_can_haz_attr()
[15:25] <flacoste> i should just shut-up
[15:25] <intellectronica> barry: :)
[15:25] <flacoste> allenap: the problem is that it catches all exceptions
[15:26] <barry> i'd like to understand more why we're using hasattrs
[15:26] <barry> maybe some of those 24 uses are bogus?
[15:27] <intellectronica> i think in many cases where we use ...attr methods we don't really have to, or could refactor the code so that we don't have to
[15:27] <intellectronica> just today salgado found one place where we used setattr without having to and fixed it
[15:28] <salgado> intellectronica, it was jamesh who found it, btw. :)
[15:28] <intellectronica> maybe the instruction should be more general, and include looking for ...attr in the code, check that it's really necessary, and iff it is, make sure that it's correct
[15:28] <barry> intellectronica: +1
[15:29] <barry> would someone like to update TipsForReviewers to be on the lookout, and question, uses of setattr()
[15:29] <bac> i will
[15:29] <barry> and also update PythonStyleGuide to watch out for hasattr() because of the exception swallowing behavior
[15:29] <barry> bac: mind doing both?
[15:30] <intellectronica> barry: why setattr specifically?
[15:30] <bac> yes i'll do both
[15:30] <bac> barry: why shouldn't both place caution about hasattr and setattr?
[15:30] <barry> intellectronica, bac nope, you're right. sorry
[15:31] <flacoste> what's the issue with setattr?
[15:31] <intellectronica> flacoste: just that we sometimes use it without having to
[15:32] <intellectronica> flacoste: and then we rely on strings, don't get lint errors, and unnecessarily complicate the code
[15:32] <flacoste> how often does it come up?
[15:32] <flacoste> i mean, there is a lot of things we do that we don't need to
[15:32] <intellectronica> flacoste: it came up today :)
[15:32] <flacoste> launchpad is full of cargo cult
[15:32] <sinzui> true
[15:32] <flacoste> lint doesn't catch unexisiting attributes
[15:33] <flacoste> i don't think we should call out setattr specifically
[15:33] <intellectronica> heh, true
[15:34] <barry> i can go either way on that.  we're all agreed about questioning and discouraging hasattr though
[15:36] <barry> that's it from me.  anything else not on the agenda?
[15:37] <bigjools> a quick point
[15:37] <bigjools> my email about cleaning PR up was not very effective
[15:37] <bigjools> so I think we should remind people in review replies
[15:38] <barry> bigjools: good idea
[15:38]  * bigjools removed 6 old branches from his queue just yesterday
[15:38] <sinzui> can bac's script be adapted to send an email to offender?
[15:39] <bac> sinzui: no
[15:39] <bac> jamesh's would be a better candidate
[15:39] <sinzui> I clear my queue when I start my on-call day
[15:39] <bigjools> yeah
[15:39] <flacoste> sinzui: that could be considered spamming :-)
[15:40] <bigjools> you can flog them some viagra while you're at it
[15:40] <flacoste> lol
[15:40] <sinzui> It is spelt V|4gra
[15:41] <bigjools> :)
[15:41] <barry> i think we're done :)
[15:41] <barry> #endmeeting
[15:41] <barry> ha ha
[15:42] <barry> thanks everyone!
[15:42] <bigjools> #fail


[19:13] <LexLuthor> Hi All
[19:14] <LexLuthor> what are the best specifications for a PC to run Ubuntu?


[05:47] (lamont/#ubuntu-kernel) hrm... maybe abi-check could be taught to look at the output of apt-cache show, and if there's no package of the  current abi number in the cache, then auto-ignore...
[05:55] <manchicken> Does anybody know if Intel 3945 is OOTB supported?
[06:09] <lamont> BenC: should the opportunity present itself, git://kernel.ubuntu.com/lamont/hppa-ia64.git (master) has everything that hppa needs, other than abi files (the right .ignore, or an abi bump, and there should be love).  The patches are all parisc specific.
[06:12] <crimsun> manchicken: it is.
[06:13] <manchicken> crimsun: Groovy.  I'm looking to find a nice OEM machine, and I'm really having a hard time deciding on a dell or a system76.  It'd be nice if there were more options...
[06:16] <manchicken> I may just end up buying a compatible lappy and testing an ISO on it :)
[06:24] <manchicken> crimsun: So those don't require anything fancy?  They're just free software drivers with binary firmware?
[06:27] <crimsun> manchicken: I don't know offhand if you need to run Restricted Manager, but it is supported.
[06:30] <manchicken> Do you know if that's on the Kubuntu ISO?
[06:30] <manchicken> (Gosh, I should probably know this)
[06:49] <JanC> Intel 3945 needs restricted-manager on 7.04
[06:50] <JanC> and that's not in Kubuntu, but I guess installing the -restricted-modules package is enough
[06:50] <JanC> (it was enough in 6.10)
[06:51] <JanC> so, check whether that package is on the kubuntu iso  :)
[06:52] <JanC> (I hope gutsy will have the new driver without that binary daemon)
[09:49] <kraut> moin
[10:43] <dholbach> hiya, can somebody of the kernel team take a look at bug 114793?
[10:43] <dholbach> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-wlan-ng/+bug/114793
[10:44] <dholbach> same for bug 124855 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/124855
[10:46] <fabbione> dholbach: checking the second one
[10:46] <fabbione> oh feh...
[10:46] <fabbione> there have been more changes since that merge
[10:46] <fabbione> using LP for merges is not a good idea IMHO
[10:47] <dholbach> well - we need to send people looking for sponsors somewhere
[10:48] <fabbione> the debdiff looks sane to me
[10:49] <fabbione> and it seems to be against the very latest initramfs in the archive
[10:49] <dholbach> nice
[11:22] <ivoks> there's a problem with ICH8M IDE controlers in gutsy
[11:22] <ivoks> should support for it be added to ata_piix?
[01:55] <lamont> BenC: you up and about yet?
[01:57] <BenC> lamont: yeah
[02:22] <BenC> zul: ping
[02:22] <zul_> BenC: umm..yeah?
[02:22] <zul_> do I want to know? :)
[02:22] <BenC> zul: these patches in your git, are they addressing launchpad bugs?
[02:23] <fabbione> zul_: hey dude.. xen-3.1 did fail on i386...
[02:23] <zul_> BenC: no I went through the linux-usb list and pulled out interesting patches
[02:23] <zul_> fabbione: ill look this morning
[02:23] <fabbione> thanks
[02:23] <BenC> zul: Ok, some of them I'm a little leery of
[02:24] <zul_> BenC: like which?
[02:24] <zul_> besides xen ;)
[02:24] <BenC>     UBUNTU: USB: Support Blackberry Pearl with berry_change
[02:25] <BenC>     UBUNTU: USB:  Don't resume root hub if their parent controller device is still sus
[02:25] <BenC>     UBUNTU:  USB: fix oops in ftdi_sio
[02:25] <zul_> ok thats fine with me no skin off my nose
[02:25] <BenC> the blackberry one isn't so bad, but I tried a patch like that awhile back and it didn't work on my 8830 :)
[02:25] <zul_> ah
[02:26] <BenC> I'll cherry pick the device id ones, and the xen patch
[02:26] <zul> ok thanks, ill try to address more launchpad bugs next time
[02:27] <BenC> zul: np, definitely appreciate the effort
[02:27] <zul> thanks
[02:28] <zul> there is an update to the usb autosuspend blacklist as well ill try to find the commit
[02:29] <BenC> zul: definitely want that one to make the sane/scanner folks happy
[02:30] <BenC> zul: cherry picked and pushed, thanks
[02:31] <zul> no probs
[02:40] <BenC> rtg: bug #121415 sent your way
[02:41] <BenC> zul: Heh, may use your ftdi patch after all: bug #121583
[02:42] <zul> yay
[02:45] <BenC> hmm, doesn't look like the same backtrace though
[02:56] <BenC> kylem: did we get blacklist-from-command-line in initramfs-tools yet?
[02:57] <rtg> BenC: While I'm thinking about it, I'm gonna delete the gutsy l-r-m git repo just so there is no confusion in the future.
[02:57] <BenC> rtg: good deal
[03:01] <kylem> not afaik.
[03:01] <kylem> we don't have an initramfs-tools maintainer.
[03:02] <BenC> sure we do, it's called ubuntu-kernel-team :)
[03:03] <kylem> those losers are useless though.
[03:04] <BenC> hehe
[03:07] <BenC> kylem: is the nommconf by default patch in the set I sent you?
[03:07] <kylem> yes.
[03:07] <kylem> now that dapper is done, and my updates to lum are churning, i guess i can look at that.
[03:08] <BenC> ok, I'll assign 124294 to you then
[03:44] <Nafallo> kylem: my laptop is delayed. so won't be chasing you until 6th of August by the looks of things :-P
[03:44] <kylem> Nafallo, ok. :P
[04:02] <BenC> kylem: have you joined audio team?
[04:03] <BenC> kylem: probably want to make sure crimsun passes the admin torch there too
[04:03] <kylem> ubuntu-kernel-team is part of ubuntu-audio
[04:05] <BenC> I think you have to be a direct member to get admin
[04:09] <kylem> ah.
[04:10] <abogani> BenC: Please don't forget this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2007-July/001581.html
[04:11] <BenC> abogani: right, thanks
[04:13] <BenC> abogani: done and pushed
[04:15] <abogani> BenC: Thanks and sorry for this bothering (me).
[04:16] <BenC> abogani: no bother at all
[04:18] <abogani> BenC: Last two things: Are you already re-enabled prioprietary video drivers build for rt? It is possible add schedutils as Recommends field in rt kernel flavour package? Thanks
[04:19] <BenC> abogani: should be able to do the recommends, and yes, lrm/lum are building for -rt now
[04:20] <BenC> abogani: have you not tested linux-image-2.6.22-8-rt?
[04:24] <abogani> BenC: Not in debian kernel package form at this moment i build Gutsy kernel in standard way (make) on my (feisty) laptop. Don't have a dedicated machine for Gutsy yet, sorry. I'm a poor stupid :-(
[04:25] <BenC> abogani: best bet is to "fakeroot debian/rules custom-binary-rt" and install that package
[04:25] <BenC> you'll get the same thing that the archive will build
[04:25] <BenC> you'll also get the linux-headers for it
[04:28] <abogani> good. i had fear to break something :-)
[04:31] <abogani> BenC: Arghhhh i'm executing "fakeroot debian/rules custom-binary-rt" and now i have an error!
[04:31] <abogani> /home/alessio/ubuntu-rt/ubuntu-gutsy/debian/build/custom-source-rt is not clean, please run 'make mrproper'
[04:31] <abogani> What want make?
[04:31] <BenC> abogani: you have some cruft in your tree
[04:31] <BenC> fakeroot debian/rules clean
[04:31] <BenC> make mrproper
[04:32] <BenC> then run "git-ls-files --others" and delete anything in the tree
[04:32] <BenC> s/the tree/the tree that's not supposed to be there/
[04:32] <BenC> err, mrproper, don't run
[04:32] <BenC> will probably delete debian directory
[04:33] <BenC> just do the ls-files, or somehow get a clean checkout
[05:02] <abogani> Resolved, thanks.
[05:26] <Nafallo> BenC: you guys want solutions to module options for specific soundcards added as bugs with output of lspci -vn for the card added as bugs, right? :-)
[07:24] <lamont> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-8-hppa32
[07:24] <lamont> find: /lib/firmware/2.6.22-8-hppa32: No such file or directory
[07:24] <lamont> find: /lib/firmware/2.6.22-8-hppa32: No such file or directory
[07:24] <lamont> find: /lib/firmware/2.6.22-8-hppa32: No such file or directory
[07:24] <lamont> find: /lib/firmware/2.6.22-8-hppa32: No such file or directory
[07:24] <lamont> find: /lib/firmware/2.6.22-8-hppa32: No such file or directory
[07:24] <lamont> find: /lib/firmware/2.6.22-8-hppa32: No such file or directory
[07:24] <lamont> should that find output be supressed??
[07:25] <lamont> BenC: and it looks like I may have config changes for hppa too. :-(
[08:41] <BenC> lamont: those you can ignore...I need to fix initramfs-tools not to show that when the firmware dir doesn't exist
[10:25] <bdmurray> BenC: I ran across a bug about a CD drive eject button.  Is that kernel related?
[11:43] <BenC> bdmurray: not likely, but it may be hotkey-setup related
[11:44] <bdmurray> I meant the physical button on the front of the drive.
[11:44] <bdmurray> If that wasn't clear.
[11:48] <JanC> could be harware too  :)
[11:51] <bdmurray> They seem to indicate that it worked in Feisty
[12:01] <BenC> odd, if it worked in feisty, and not gutsy, it's definitely a bug
[12:02] <BenC> bdmurray: best test, boot single-user into feisty kernel and gutsy kernel, and test the button
[12:03] <bdmurray> BenC: duh - thanks
[12:04] <BenC> bdmurray: np