[03:00] <kbulgrien> so here's the thing, about the checkout into an existing workspace.
[03:00] <kbulgrien> Now it is telling me all the stuff is removed.
[03:00] <kbulgrien> all I did, to my knowledge is bzr resolve conflict.
[03:01] <kbulgrien> what am I supposed to do to clear a conflict without it assuming it should now remove the stuff?
[03:09] <kbulgrien> If I re-add the removed stuff, it is both removed and added.
[03:09] <kbulgrien> It should be just modified
[11:09] <LarstiQ> kbulgrien: --take-other/--take-this?
[18:51] <kbulgrien> Problematic not being able to status without recurse.
[19:04] <jelmer> kbulgrien: isn't there --no-recurse?


[01:48] <Aeyoun> This is really not encouraging. http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/singlehtml/index.html#submitting-for-inclusion "You've done lots of work following this wiki, and now you need to learn a bunch of new stuff and do things slightly differently over at this other place."
[04:34] <micahg> doko__: nevermind about icedtea-web, I see it's dependent on which release you generate the control file on, not which one it's targeted too (which is a bit fragile, but I worked around it)
[11:13] <mitya57> Logan_: can you please mark lp:~logan/ubuntu/raring/ocfs2-tools/debian-merge as merged (so that it doesn't show in the sponsoring queue)?
[11:14] <Logan_> mitya57: Hmm, but it's not merged, though.
[11:14] <Logan_> I'll set it as Work in progress.
[11:16] <mitya57> Logan_: there was upload authored by you: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/ocfs2-tools/1.6.4-2ubuntu1
[11:16] <Logan_> Well fancy that.
[11:17] <Logan_> Okay, marked as Merged. :P
[11:17] <mitya57> thanks!
[11:18]  * mitya57 wishes Logan_ becomes Ubuntu developer soon :)
[11:19] <Logan_> Haha, same here. I'm actually planning on applying for MOTU, which would gain me Ubuntu membership in the process.
[14:11] <nrosvall_> hi is there plans to disable menu icons from Qt apps?
[14:11] <nrosvall_> as now gtk apps do not show menu icons by default in unity, but Qt apps do
[14:12] <nrosvall_> I guess that needs some qt dconf integration?
[15:18] <nigelb> 6/
[15:18] <nigelb> /3333oi52
[15:19] <nigelb> err, sorry!
[17:48] <Bluefoxicy> “In terms of software, Ubuntu is like the iPhone" <-- too much proprietary, in-house software and an extreme habit of not playing well with others while telling everyone you play well with everyone?
[17:48] <Bluefoxicy> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu
[17:49] <Bluefoxicy> (A Nexus phone is probably a more favorable comparison, though with Unity and Upstart people will argue about whether or not it's a more accurate comparison)
[17:56] <maxb>  That is a rather a bizarre quote
[17:57] <maxb> I'd dismiss it a just being something said by a newspaper, but having it requoted on ubuntu.com makes it more prominent
[17:59] <maxb> Thdn again, more people who use a nexus phone can probably figure out if they'd like to use ubuntu all by themselves, so maybe its a deliberate attempt to seed curiosity in a particular market segment
[18:27] <penguin42> debian security seems to be busy today


[00:09] <databits> I'm having some troubles here. For some reason my computer is taking a long time to boot.
[00:09] <databits> could someone help me out ?
[00:11] <math4u22> list
[00:12] <math4u22> #list
[00:20] <malwar3hun73r> rypervenche, you still around?
[00:26] <math4u22> Drone r u here
[01:38] <malwar3hun73r> any rsyslog gurus?
[01:45] <krytarik> Meta questions..
[01:47] <ub3g33k> I copy/paste rsyslog configs I find on google...  Does that count?
[01:56] <leftyfb> math4u22: can we help you with something?
[02:02] <jkgi> My laptop is suggesting I upgrade to version 18.04 LTS. When I try, it complains that api.snapcraft.io isn't up. It really isn't up. Is it better to wait for it to be repaired, or to go ahead without it? I have never used it and was not aware it existed until now.
[02:06] <math4u22> leftyfb>should I upgrade to 18 from 17.04
[02:07] <leftyfb> math4u22: I always suggest a fresh install.
[02:08] <math4u22> i have noticed some problems with 17.04 that require a restart
[02:09] <leftyfb> math4u22: 17.04 is EOL and not supported anymore
[02:09] <math4u22> ok
[02:38] <jkgi> My laptop is suggesting I upgrade to version 18.04 LTS. When I try, it complains that api.snapcraft.io isn't up. It really isn't up. Is it better to wait for it to be repaired, or to go ahead without it? I have never used it and was not aware it existed until now.
[02:38] <rypervenche> malwar3hun73r: You should ask your question and someone may be able to help.
[02:43] <dviola> my amdgpu drivers keeps freezing my system
[02:43] <dviola> ubuntu 18.04
[02:43] <dviola> any ideas?
[02:43] <dviola> I'm using oibaf ppa
[02:44] <ZaZaQR> hello
[02:50] <math4u22> leftyfb: I have a multiboot usb with 17.04 which I used to install 17.04.  I saved an 18.04 torrent iso on a second usb.  I have no idea how to install the 18.04 in place of 17.04. Is there a YouTube which would help with the upgrade install?
[02:51] <leftyfb> math4u22: follow the same instructions you used to create the multiboot usb
[03:07] <math4u22> leftyfb: I purchased the multboot usb with several versions of ubuntu. When I look in the ubuntu 17.04 directory there are 10 sub directories one which is named “isolinux” when I open this directory there are about 90 files, but no iso file.
[03:07] <leftyfb> math4u22: you don't stick iso's on a usb flash drive to get them to boot
[03:08] <leftyfb> math4u22: why do you need multiple versions of ubuntu?
[03:09] <math4u22> I picked the most recent version of ubuntu 17,04 64 bit
[03:10] <leftyfb> math4u22: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[03:10] <math4u22> ok i'll check it out, thank you
[03:11] <leftyfb> Here's a 10yo from youtube showing you how to do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIhYitXwJfE  .. found on google by searching "install ubuntu onto usb"
[03:17] <SysGhost> For creating bootable USB drives with linux from within Windows, I can recommend LinuxLive USB Creator
[03:49] <alephnull> Is it possible to install Ubuntu with secure boot on? I have a new Thinkpad X1CG6 and it will not boot the USB I created using "Startup disk creator".
[03:51] <leftyfb> alephnull: why do you need secure boot?
[03:55] <Blankspace> Hi
[03:56] <alephnull> leftyfb, Because it is usually on by default and if there is a problem, I'd like to file a bug and fix it.
[03:56] <Blankspace> My ubuntu keeps logging off
[03:56] <leftyfb> alephnull: just disable it
[03:56] <Blankspace> I dont know why
[03:56] <Blankspace> And you then you get that screen where you have to enter pwd
[03:56] <Blankspace> To login again
[03:56] <alephnull> *sigh*
[03:57] <Blankspace> Please help me someone why is this happening
[03:57] <Blankspace> :/
[03:58] <Blankspace> It logs out automatically
[03:58] <Blankspace> Within minutes of me logging back in
[03:58] <leftyfb> Blankspace: what version of ubuntu?
[03:58] <Blankspace> 16.04
[03:59] <leftyfb> alephnull: the answer is, yes, it's possible
[04:02] <Blankspace> What do i do
[04:07] <alephnull> leftyfb, thx
[04:15] <Blankspace> Anyone?
[04:16] <guiverc> Blankspace, your DEsktop is Unity (ie. standard Ubuntu, not Ubuntu-GNOME)?
[04:17] <Blankspace> How to know that?
[04:19] <guiverc> Blankspace, it was just a thought - the only time I've been logged out for no good reason was with gnome (added extensions causing crash; logout occurs)... The fix is to remove extensions & it should resolve, then slowly add them back until you know which causes issue ..   (my thinking, but it likely won't help you.. it's a gnome thing)
[04:20] <Blankspace> Last night it was working fine
[04:20] <Blankspace> I dont know what happened
[04:20] <Blankspace> I didnt install anything
[04:20] <Blankspace> No addons
[04:20] <Blankspace> Or extensions
[04:21] <guiverc> Blankspace, you could login to terminal , and next time it logs you out, look at logs to look for clues, ie. `dmesg` (you'll possibly see error messages as that will point to cause.. it could be memory, disk failing or hardware issue .. etc - could be software too, but currently you have no clues
[04:22] <Blankspace> Like if i login to guest account it doesnt logs me out
[04:22] <guiverc> the altnerative is just next time it occurs, don't re-login to gui, switch to terminal & `dmesg >dmesg_crash_2018-12-09` etc. then you can view, find line & get help here etc - info to chase down your issue
[04:23] <Blankspace> Can i login to guest user and type dmesg in terminal
[04:24] <Blankspace> I dont know how to switch to terminal
[04:26] <Blankspace> What is tpm error
[04:26] <guiverc> my suggestion was to switch to [text] terminal, ie. ctrl+alt+f4 and look there (ctrl+alt+f7 should return you to gui), it's just easier (in my opinion) to view logs/info without affecting data you're trying to view  (gui hides the info such as error that causes your logout, text terminal won't be logged out until shutdown)
[04:31] <Blankspace> It doesnt show anything
[04:32] <Blankspace> When i type dmesg dmesg_crash_2018-12-09
[04:35] <guiverc> it was `dmesg >filename` (where the filename was an example that I'd likely use, ie. date & clue as to what it was)  .. it contains the dmesg output so you can scan it... a log since boot, it would be best to look there just after crash/logout, as easier to find useful clues .. if nothign there, i'd `sudo journalctl` & look there .. ie. looking thru logs looking for clues; but should be easier to find clues if event you're looking for
[04:35] <guiverc> just occurred
[04:36] <guiverc> it was a suggestion only - what I could think of Blankspace
[04:39] <Blankspace> Guiverc thank you for helping. I am trying to reboot
[04:39] <Blankspace> It stopped logging out for a while
[04:40] <Blankspace> I'll check once again by rebooting if it logs me out again
[04:44] <Blankspace> It got resolved by itself. It seems.
[04:55] <cfhowlett> !ping
[05:38] <leonardus> How do I restore the boot manager?  I'm on Ubuntu right now.
[05:39] <leonardus> It used to boot into grub and let me select between ubuntu and windows, I found a workaround which was to manually select it from BIOS every time I boot, but I'm looking for a more permanent solution
[05:42] <redwheelbarrow> hey, anyone here know of an up to date Rails install doc for Ubuntu?
[05:43] <redwheelbarrow> I keep having my install break for varying reasons. I'd like to use RVM to install it all
[05:47] <leonardus> redwheelbarrow: not able to help you but just wanted to say great username
[05:49] <mantis`> Hi all. I'm using 18.04 on an asus laptop. I've got a funny sound issue. System sounds work work fine. But I'm not getting sound from firefox or chrome. Mplayer can play an audio track. But vlc can't
[05:50] <mantis`> what could be happening? how do I go about debugging the issue?
[05:50] <leonardus> mantis`: bring up the "pulseaudio volume control" application, are there any programs muted in the "playback" tab?
[05:51] <mantis`> leonardus: Is "pulseaudio volume control" the same as the sound settings in gnome's 'Settings' panel?
[05:52] <leonardus> mantis`: no, but check the "applications" on that too while you're at it
[05:52] <mantis`> When I bring that up, there is a tab called 'Applications'. It has sound settings for chrome an mplayer. They all have volume up to full
[05:52] <leonardus> are the switches to the right of them turned on?
[05:52] <mantis`> yep
[05:53] <mantis`> leonardus: so I guess the next step is finding the pulseaudio volume contol
[05:53] <leonardus> mantis`: does firefox/vlc show up on there when you open them?
[05:53] <redwheelbarrow> anyone know where to find an up to date rails install document for ubuntu
[05:54] <mantis`> leonardus: no. just two slots for chrome. The slot for mplayer just dissapeared. That's prolly cos the track I was playng from the commandline completed
[05:56] <mantis`> oh
[05:58] <mantis`> leonardus: I just installed pavucontrol. I can see that chrome isn't muted. But looking at the 'output devices' tab, it appears that the sound is being channeled through to the HDMI port
[05:58] <mantis`> I don't have the device actually plugged into an HDMI output though
[05:58] <leonardus> mantis`: can I see a screenshot?
[05:59] <leonardus> just of the output devices tab
[06:01] <mantis`> https://imgur.com/a/xgh3mSP
[06:05] <mantis`> leonardus: I'm looking around both pavu control and the gnome sound settings for a switch, to switch from hdmi output back to just using the devices own sound output. I can't see anything.
[06:06] <leonardus> yeah, I'm not sure, sorry. try idling here maybe someone will come along
[06:06] <mantis`> k
[07:14] <gear4> hi
[07:14] <gear4> i get this in my ubuntu https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/329827854152105994/521221539937386496/20181209_100811.jpg
[07:14] <gear4> any ideas why ?
[09:16] <Net|> pkg-config for glib2 is not working good
[09:17] <Net|> brb double checking
[09:17] <Net|> cflags is working but libs nothing shows up
[09:17] <eFfeM> Hi, I'm trying to install/use a printer connected to my tp-link router, the install worked put when I try to print a document the Document printer status applet says "Printer "Canon-PIXMA-iP4500" may not be connected; cups says "the printer is in use" and the printer is sitting idle. Anyone an idea what could be wrong ?
[09:18] <Net|> nm its working now
[09:21] <eFfeM> (btw this is on 16.04.05
[09:21] <Net|> $(OBJECTS) $(LDFLAGS) if you have troubles linking its because ldflags needs to be after objects in makefiles
[09:21] <gimpnixon> hello
[09:23] <ducasse> eFfeM: how is it connected to your router - network cable or usb?
[09:23] <eFfeM> ducasse: usb
[09:24] <eFfeM> ducasse: router is tl-wdr5300, printer spooler is started, usb connection is there (if I unplug the usb cable the led associated with it goes off, replugging makes it go on again)
[09:25] <ducasse> eFfeM: sorry, i've never tried that so can't help.
[09:25] <eFfeM> ducasse: no problem, thanks for trying
[09:26] <kab0m> How do i run a qml-script from bash cli? If i try "qml -apptype widget -I /usr/lib/kid3/plugins/imports /usr/share/kid3/qml/script/ExportCsv.qml" i get "qml: could not find a Qt installation of" error
[09:27] <ducasse> eFfeM: i'd try restarting the spooler and double-check the settings on the router, only other suggestion i've got is to get support from the manufacturer. have you got access to a windows machine?
[09:29] <eFfeM> ducasse, I think this worked under windows but that was long ago,  I already rebooted router, restarted printer spooler on router and restarted cups but to no avail
[09:29] <eFfeM> will for this print job probably move the printer and connect directly
[09:31] <ducasse> eFfeM: i'd try asking for help here again on a weekday, or later today. weekends are quiet here, especially at this time.
[09:32] <ducasse> good luck, though
[09:32] <eFfeM> ducasse: thanks, will try that and will try windows later, for now just moved the printer and connected directly, that worked so my urgent need is resolved
[10:02] <kab0m> How can i run qml-scripts?
[11:11] <imi> hello, I believe my machine contains a GPS module. how can I find out, and how can I use it? For instance, is there a commandline tool which just prints my cordinates to stdout and then quits?
[11:12] <ikonia> imi: lspci and lsusb will show all PCI and USB bus devices
[11:13] <ikonia> see if there is a GPS device listed in it, I doubt there is
[11:13] <ikonia> I can't think of many devices that are not built for a specific function that would contain a GPS device in them
[11:19] <imi> ikonia: ok then my second guess is there is no GPS device in my machine. I'm goind to buy one
[11:21] <imi> what sort of device is best for linux?
[11:27] <SimonNL> https://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/8-gpsd/    imi does this help you in any way
[11:44] <Discy>  /list
[11:59] <Sircle> My battery says 60% charging. And its that since forever
[11:59] <Sircle> What does this means?
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | Sircle try this
[12:03] <Sircle> I missed the last message. Can the one messaged it, repeat it?
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: try to install laptop-mode-tools
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: try also from terminal: upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
[12:04] <Sircle> ok
[12:04] <Sircle> what does this usually means though?
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: it means, if something is wrong with your battery, you can do a few tests to find out whats going on exactly
[12:06] <Sircle> lotuspsychje:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/W2mM8ySxGp/
[12:06] <Sircle> will be back in 10
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | oberasp
[12:16] <Sircle> lotuspsychje:  all looks ok?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: it looks like its on 60% like you say
[12:18] <Sircle> lotuspsychje:  why would it not go above it
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: have you tryed taking battery out, plug in again? perhaps also a bios firmware update
[12:18] <Sircle> lotuspsychje:  I think it might be the battery life issue
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: yes, i also suspect it
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: try also another ubuntu version maybe boot up a liveusb as a test?
[12:24] <Sircle> lotuspsychje:  ok
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:52] <prof2004> hi ioria
[12:52] <ioria> prof2004, hi
[12:53] <alephnull> leftyfb, Turns out Secure boot is supported out of the box. I was just using the image wrong.
[12:54] <prof2004> I have tried to get the LG monitor running with the internal graphics card from Intel,i915
[12:54] <prof2004> using the displayport
[12:55] <prof2004> I do only get 4 resolutions, the best is 1024x768
[12:55] <prof2004> the monitor is not identified properly
[12:56] <prof2004> Then I have installed the rx graphics card from AMD
[12:56] <prof2004> in the first step, it was not doing well, so I made some trials with mixed card usage
[12:57] <prof2004> afterall, I have reset the bios to standard values and have all 3 monitors attached to thr rx card
[12:57] <ioria> mixed card usage ?
[12:57] <prof2004> and it works
[12:57] <ioria> prof2004, very good
[12:58] <prof2004> yes, you can use the internal card, and the external card together
[12:58] <ioria> prof2004, ok
[12:59] <prof2004> I am really wondering, the internal card does not identify the monitor in the right way, the external does
[12:59] <prof2004> I am no trying to make the system stable, as you told me, it is a mess
[13:00] <prof2004> I have deleted all the sources for other programs, only http://ppa.launchpad.net/clipgrab-team/ppa/ubuntu bionic main is still there
[13:01] <prof2004> and http://ppa.launchpad.net/oibaf/graphics-drivers/ubuntu, but this is not marked as active
[13:01] <prof2004> It is open source driver package
[13:02] <ioria> prof2004, usually we advice to stick with official respositories sources
[13:02] <prof2004> looking to the web at https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[13:03] <prof2004> it seams, that the mesa driver in my system are from there, do they?
[13:03] <ioria> prof2004, dpkg -l | grep mesa | pastebinit
[13:04] <prof2004> Reverting to original drivers needs to enter sudo ppa-purge ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers
[13:04] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TDnQXw9cJz/
[13:05] <prof2004> I a little bit afraid, if I do purge the drivers, nothing works again
[13:05] <prof2004> because updating to 18.04 made me crazy, because the drivers from AMD, working fine in 16.04, did not work anymore
[13:06] <prof2004> after searching the internet, I found the mesa solution, which was working
[13:07] <ioria> prof2004, apt-cache policy libopenvg1-mesa | pastebinit
[13:07] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZmkYqVHHr7/
[13:07] <prof2004> this is the output for xrandr
[13:08] <ioria> i see
[13:08] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xvfTQjSrvp/
[13:10] <ioria> prof2004, you still have old leftover, but probably not an issue
[13:11] <prof2004> how can I get rid of the old stuff?
[13:11] <ioria> prof2004,  sudo apt purge libopenvg1-mesa
[13:11] <prof2004> shall I purge the ppa source from oibaf?
[13:12] <ioria> prof2004,  i think you already did that
[13:13] <prof2004> done, libroutermanager-plugins-gstreamer1 is missing, as well as libroutermanager0
[13:13] <prof2004> config data from libopenvg1-mesa:amd64 (10.1.3-0ubuntu0.6) are deleted
[13:13] <prof2004> no, ioria, I am waiting for a go :-)
[13:15] <ioria> prof2004,  your version of libopenvg1-mesa is 10.1.3, and it's not supported anymore; so we are just removing completely that pkg
[13:17] <ioria> prof2004,  do the same for libgles2-mesa
[13:18] <ioria> prof2004,  the last btw can be reinstalled with the correct version (18.0.5)
[13:20] <prof2004> ok, i will remove these packages, and than, I shall install libgles2-mesa again?
[13:21] <ioria> prof2004, apt-cache policy libgles2-mesa | pastebinit
[13:23] <prof2004> sudo apt remove libopenvg1-mesa, makes nothing, because package libopenvg1-mesa:i386 is not installed
[13:23] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mk72wtW2dS/
[13:24] <prof2004> the same for libgles2-mesa
[13:25] <ioria> prof2004, apt-cache policy libgles2-mesa:i386  | pastebinit
[13:26] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3N7pMXWyYT/
[13:26] <ioria> prof2004, and i told you 'purge' not 'remove'
[13:26] <ioria> prof2004,  sudo apt purge  libgles2-mesa:i386
[13:28] <prof2004> done for both packages
[13:28] <ioria> ok
[13:28] <prof2004> shall I now install libgles2-mesa
[13:29] <prof2004> ?
[13:29] <prof2004> and what is with ppa-purge of the oibaf source? shall I do it?
[13:30] <ioria> prof2004,  it's not required, but you can .. why did you install it ?
[13:30] <prof2004> I do not remember, it was during my trials to find a solution. I did not have this chat for help at this time
[13:31] <ioria> !info libgles2-mesa
[13:31] <ioria> ah, transitional dummy package
[13:31] <ioria> prof2004,  i don't think you'll need it
[13:33] <prof2004> ok
[13:35] <prof2004> so we are done, do we?
[13:35] <ioria> prof2004,  maybe :þ
[13:36] <prof2004> I have one more problem actually
[13:37] <prof2004> I am using an HP photosmart 7510 with intigrated scanner
[13:37] <prof2004> Scan SW is scan2pdf
[13:38] <prof2004> scan2pdf does not find the scanner anymore. It was working before.
[13:39] <prof2004> setup of scan2pdf says, using interface libimage-sane-perl
[13:40] <ioria> prof2004,  and simple-scan  can find the scanner ?
[13:40] <prof2004> no, no scanner found
[13:41] <prof2004> I had already this problem before, and think I have reinstalled something from HP with apt
[13:42] <ioria> prof2004,  did you installed the drivers from HP or what ?
[13:42] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4vTpwrScQp/
[13:42] <ioria> *install
[13:45] <ioria> prof2004,  that hw should be supported by hplip
[13:45] <prof2004> I have had driver installed from HP in 16.04, but they did not work anymore with 18.04
[13:46] <prof2004> I have deinstalled, because I found the hint, that ubuntu has support for printing and scanning from HP devices build in
[13:47] <ioria> prof2004,  when it stopped working exactly ?
[13:48] <prof2004> I do not know, but now, the system is up and running, I was just trying to scan something and it does not work
[13:48] <prof2004> this was before we have made our changes today
[13:49] <prof2004> I need scan and printing to run my office activities
[13:50] <ioria> prof2004,  ls /usr/lib/sane
[13:51] <prof2004> access not possible, file or folder not found
[13:51] <ioria> ok
[13:53] <ioria> prof2004,  usb or wifi ?
[13:53] <Iolo> Is it possible to change which partition landscape-sysinfo reports the usage of, or preferrably to add more partitions to the report?
[13:53] <prof2004> wifi
[13:54] <prof2004> there is no sane directory, indeed
[13:54] <prof2004> wrong, I found one
[13:55] <ioria> prof2004,  no idea about wifi : try this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2232344
[13:55] <prof2004> usr/lib/x86_64ölinux-gnu
[13:55] <ioria> prof2004,  yeah, i have to go afk,ry later
[13:56] <prof2004> cu, thank you
[13:59] <ducasse> prof2004: try reinstalling hplip if it isn't properly installed already
[14:00] <prof2004> hi ducasse, sudo apt install hplip reinstall ?
[14:03] <ducasse> 'sudo apt install --reinstall hplip'
[14:04] <prof2004> have purged and after that installed
[14:04] <prof2004> no scanner found by simple scan
[14:05] <prof2004> oha, wait a minute ...
[14:07] <ducasse> does it say which backend it tries?
[14:09] <prof2004> it seams to me, that the printer has a network problem, it is a shame for me, sorry
[14:09] <prof2004> I will check and come back, if the problem persists, thank you
[14:10] <ducasse> can you find out which ip address the printer is on and try to ping it?
[14:13] <zzero1> what is  the latest kernel for bionic ?
[14:13] <ducasse> !info linux-image-generic bionic
[14:13] <prof2004> the printer is actually not accessed to the wlan, which it was always. Have to go for that. cu
[14:14] <zzero1> !info linux-image-generic bionic
[14:14] <zzero1> thanks ducasse
[14:15] <ducasse> yw
[14:16] <Richard_Cavell> I have a .xml file that I am able to view as though it were a text file.  Is there an application for Ubuntu 16.04 in the repos that will enable me to view this .xml file in some other way?
[14:17] <tchakatak> Richard_Cavell: what other way ?
[14:18] <Richard_Cavell> I don't know.  It just seems like it was meant to be interpreted in some other way
[14:18] <tchakatak> You could use an ide/text editor with color like atom.. really good for walking trough stuff like this
[14:18] <tchakatak> a xml is not interpreted.
[14:18] <tchakatak> its basically text organised in a certain way.
[14:19] <tchakatak> what would you like to do with your xml file exactly ?
[14:21] <Richard_Cavell> I don't even know.  It just seems like it could be presented graphically
[14:23] <coz_> Richard_Cavell, you open it in firfox, i beleive to see what it's about
[14:24] <coz_> firefox
[14:25] <encho> I have been running Ubuntu (14.04, 16.04 and now tried instlaling 18.04) on my Toshiba Satellite C55-C laptop. It has a Broadcom wifi chip 43xxx (can't provide exact number coz I booted into Windows now in order to have networking).
[14:25] <encho> The install CD (neither the Live-desktp nor the actual innstaller) see my wifi card. This has been like that since 14.04 and is actually quite annoying and I am very hopefu with every new version of ubutu that this problem would be resolved but so far it is not happening.
[14:25] <encho> So I end up with linux installed without wifi networking and the it's  a huge pain in the ... to try and make it work.
[14:26] <encho> Is there any way to make the installer see this card?
[14:26] <encho> Oh and yes - the wireless is enabled in the BIOS and during the installation (the LED is ON)
[14:27] <encho> As a matter of fact it works now (in windows 7)
[14:27] <ducasse> !broadcom | encho try reading this
[14:29] <ducasse> encho: afaik you need to install first and then install the broadcom drivers
[14:30] <cybercrypto> hi there
[14:30] <cybercrypto> I am searching for a way to display downspeed and upspeed graph sum, together... in conky. anyone has any clue where I should look?
[14:31] <cybercrypto> downspeed and upspeed in separate graphs are very obvious.
[14:31] <cybercrypto> is there a way to 'sum up' both in a single graph?
[14:32] <ducasse> cybercrypto: i'm sure there's a script here that does that - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[14:34] <cybercrypto> ducasse: thanks, let me take a look.
[14:34] <ducasse> cybercrypto: that thread is over a 1000 pages, though, so happy hunting :)
[14:35] <cybercrypto> ducasse: hunting? yeap... that's the linux spirit brow, thanks.
[14:38] <coz_> encho,  not to promote "distro-hopping" but you can also try fedora 29 which has in their repos a bcm43xx-fwcutter.x86_64 : Firmware extraction tool for Broadcom wireless driver
[14:38] <coz_> , I have not used it so I have no further instructions for it
[14:38] <ducasse> cybercrypto: you can also ask in #conky, but it's thinly populated
[14:39] <ducasse> coz_: that's in the ubuntu repos as well
[14:40] <coz_> ducasse, ah cool, thanks
[14:41] <coz_> ducasse, never had a need to use on any distro so...
[14:41] <encho> @ducasse - thank you I will what you suggested
[14:42] <encho> ... will *read what you...
[14:43] <encho> it is really quite annoying that this has not been fixed for such long time... after all Broadcom is a major brand... one would think that there's a lot of interest in making these dievice work
[14:43] <ducasse> encho: unless i'm mistaken, you just install broadcom-sta-dkms and that will build the driver
[14:44] <ducasse> encho: i think it's a licence thing, the driver can not be distributed as a binary with the kernel
[14:44] <encho> same story with my Bluetooth chip :( I have to download firmwares... load them... it's hard to find the correct firmware... etc etc
[14:45] <encho> @ducasse - yeah most likely... anyway - I go read now , thanks again :)
[14:46] <encho> @coz_ : Yes I have been using Fedora and yes - it does NOT have these problems
[14:46] <encho> (so maybe it isn\t a license/binary problem after all?)
[14:47] <encho> Unfortunately Fedora has varios other issues on a laptop and I found that overall Ubuntu is more suitable to use on a laptop and Fedora - as a server
[14:48] <ducasse> i dunno, it's just the usual reason why drivers are distributed as dkms packages
[14:48] <encho> I do keep this option as a last resort but for now I was hoping I could get my Ubuntu working :)
[14:48] <coz_> encho, not so, works great on this laptop
[14:48] <encho> 'this\ - meaning your laptop or the Toshiba I described?
[14:54] <coz_> encho, I don't see why not, but inreality, unless the laptop is in front of me, testing, I cant say absolutely,
[14:55] <coz_> encho, I use bot ubuntu and fedora, on even lower end laptops with little to no real issues
[14:55] <coz_> encho,  A live iso will let you know
[14:56] <encho> coz_ : a live fedora iso?
[14:57] <coz_> encho, yep
[14:58] <coz_> encho, you can also try the spins  https://spins.fedoraproject.org/
[14:58] <ducasse> this isn't really the place to discuss fedora, though
[14:59] <coz_> ducasse,  absolutely true
[14:59] <encho> coz_ : and then things like Nvidia 3d accel drivers? MP3 support? They all work fine for you in fc29?
[14:59] <coz_> encho,  you can prvt me
[14:59] <encho> ducasse: yes... wrapping it up with this last question
[15:08] <prof2004> hi
[15:20] <HaMsTeRs> this is crap.  my wifi disconnected suddenly and required to reboot. and it halt on reboot. when I tried rmmod mwifiex_pcie -f it said the module is busy. the entire linux experience here is definitely lame.  including no battery status and sxits
[15:25] <tchakatak> HaMsTeRs: Its not because you dont know how to use linux that it is crap :)
[15:25] <tchakatak> what is your problem exactly ?
[15:27] <HaMsTeRs> problem 1: no battery status showing, which I'll never know when the system will run out of battery.   problem 2: wifi module randomly corrupted.  once corrupted, I need to cold boot the system by holding the power button
[15:28] <HaMsTeRs> it'll not work when using the reboot --force or shutdown -h now command.  it'll hung
[15:29] <HaMsTeRs> problem 3.  all the software I like are not free -- including Binary Ninja, IDA Pro, Sublime
[15:29] <HaMsTeRs> and the free versions of it's alternate are like poking a log in the cherry
[15:29] <HaMsTeRs> *excuse me
[15:31] <ducasse> you're complaining that some software costs money?
[15:31] <tchakatak> :)
[15:31] <tchakatak> Yup, i love dev for nuts. I can definetly live with that.
[15:32] <tchakatak> HaMsTeRs: IDA pro is not free anyway
[15:32] <tchakatak> batterny not showing? depend of your laptop and how did you configure the acpi
[15:32] <tchakatak> problem 2 is generally due to a driver problem
[15:33] <HaMsTeRs> for problem 1, it's more like acpi module
[15:33] <tchakatak> yup.
[15:33] <HaMsTeRs> I see many acpi error in dmesg
[15:33] <tchakatak> did you google that errors ?
[15:33] <HaMsTeRs> yes, and it's a known issue which nobody ever solved
[15:33] <tchakatak> really ? and can you past us that ?
[15:34] <HaMsTeRs> a thread opened like a year ago in jakeday
[15:34] <ducasse> HaMsTeRs: try this - http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[15:34] <tchakatak> also the output of acpi -d
[15:34] <HaMsTeRs> ok, pls wait
[15:34] <tchakatak> your thing is really old
[15:34] <tchakatak> what laptop do you use ?
[15:36] <HaMsTeRs> surface pro 2017
[15:36] <tchakatak> acpi -b ?
[15:37] <ducasse> aha, there's your problem
[15:37] <tchakatak> lol
[15:37] <tchakatak> a surface on linux :)
[15:37] <ducasse> last i heard they had known problems running linux
[15:38] <HaMsTeRs> here's the thread I'm talking about: https://github.com/jakeday/linux-surface/issues/28
[15:38] <HaMsTeRs> acpi -b nothing shown
[15:39] <tchakatak> Just to know, what version of ubuntu, what kernel are you using
[15:40] <babou> anyone else using protonvpn on Ubuntu and have some sort of simple way to use the CLI launcher sudo command without having to manually type it in every time
[15:40] <tchakatak> babou: no
[15:40] <tchakatak> You can use nm-applet
[15:41] <babou> whats that do?
[15:41] <ducasse> babou: set up an alias
[15:41] <tchakatak> or an alias
[15:41] <babou> i mean its simple, sudo protonvpn-cli -f
[15:41] <HaMsTeRs> 4.18.16-surface-linux-surface #15 SMP Tue Oct 23 10:33:36 EDT 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | ubuntu 18.10
[15:41] <babou> is it worth the effort to set that up?
[15:42] <ducasse> babou: 'alias myvpn="sudo protonvpn-cli -f"'
[15:42] <ducasse> babou: put that in ~/.bashrc, then you just type 'myvpn'
[15:43] <tchakatak> HaMsTeRs: so you use a non official kernel
[15:43] <tchakatak> HaMsTeRs: and 2 out of your 3 problems come from the kernel
[15:43] <HaMsTeRs> the official kernel even worst
[15:44] <tchakatak> first, use a lts version
[15:44] <HaMsTeRs> even the touchscreen won't work
[15:44] <HaMsTeRs> yes, I moved from 18.04 to 18.10
[15:44] <ducasse> that may be, but we don't support what you're running now
[15:45] <HaMsTeRs> I'm new, and I want to move to Linux as my main box for daily drive
[15:46] <tchakatak> HaMsTeRs: Cool. Then do not use a pseudo kernel based on a github code if you dont know what your doing.
[15:46] <ducasse> have you tried a mainline kernel?
[15:46] <HaMsTeRs> I don't care which kernel to run, if necessary, I can change to any kernel.  I just want the basic stuffs to work
[15:46] <ducasse> if you need a newer kernel at all
[15:46] <babou> ducasse, do i need to reboot?
[15:46] <tchakatak> try to use ukuu and kernel 4.19.4
[15:46] <ducasse> babou: no, just relogin
[15:46] <babou> ahh gotcha
[15:47] <babou> i'll try it next time i boot, tyvm
[15:47] <tchakatak> but not something custom builded if you dont really know what your doing.
[15:47] <ducasse> babou: to try it now, type 'source ~/.bashrc'
[15:47] <babou> HaMsTeRs, are you trying to run ubuntu on a surface?
[15:48] <HaMsTeRs> babou, yes.  exactly.  that is, and only that is what I want
[15:48] <babou> ducasse, that worked
[15:48] <babou> tyvm friend
[15:48] <ducasse> babou: yw
[15:48] <babou> HaMsTeRs, my man, all i have to say is god speed, i use a surface pro 5 with i7, 16gb ram and 512 SSD and that thing is a steaming pile of garbage
[15:48] <HaMsTeRs> I tried the mainline kernel, and it's even worst
[15:49] <HaMsTeRs> babou, that's exactly what I'm running
[15:49] <tchakatak> HaMsTeRs: wich one ?
[15:49] <babou> ive been trying to get work to give me something else to use because i work in cybersecurity and I'm a power user, but the board of directors wants all "serious" employees using F****** surface pros
[15:49] <babou> god the video output can barely support one 4k monitor
[15:49] <babou> FML
[15:50] <HaMsTeRs> tchakatak, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VdmwDnXHj9/
[15:50] <tchakatak> babou: Work in cybersecurity and having a surface Oo
[15:50] <babou> tchakatak, right
[15:50] <babou> its garbage
[15:50] <babou> i hate it
[15:50] <tchakatak> Use a mac, at least you can install whatever you want
[15:50] <babou> I want one of those new theloios
[15:51] <babou> thelios
[15:51] <babou> or a engineer/workstation laptop from lenovo
[15:51] <tchakatak> thing is, users of today dont understant that a new computer is not faster than a older one.
[15:51] <tchakatak> i use a thinkpad :)
[15:51] <babou> I can convince them to send me to every training and cert under the sun
[15:51] <babou> buy me $1k 4k dell monitors
[15:51] <babou> spend on crazy tings
[15:51] <babou> things
[15:52] <babou> but a proper laptop
[15:52] <HaMsTeRs> babou, i got an x260 from work.  but they locked the bios and didn't enable vtx
[15:52] <tchakatak> HaMsTeRs: thats a decent laptop for linux
[15:52] <babou> I got them to install docker for a hot second then they got wise on my shenanigans
[15:52] <babou> now i'm forced to use the vmware infra to do anything virtual
[15:52] <tchakatak> babou: lxc ?
[15:52] <tchakatak> vagrant ?
[15:53] <tchakatak> you have alternatives
[15:53] <babou> for what
[15:53] <tchakatak> to docker
[15:53] <babou> i am not allowed to run anything virtual on my laptop anymore
[15:53] <tchakatak> Oo
[15:53] <tchakatak> and you work in cybersecurity ?
[15:53] <babou> aka: we just bought 4 million dollars in hyperconverged infra use it damnit
[15:54] <babou> we practice a very very very very very strict implementation of least privileged
[15:54] <babou> hyper segmentation
[15:55] <HaMsTeRs> why hyperconverge instead of standard vmware + san set?
[15:55] <Jesuwope> Hey my friends, what is the command in ubuntu to cause page scroll pause?
[15:55] <babou> I'm actually trying to get them to set me up on a cloud service with VDI so I can just use my surface as an expensive thin client
[15:55] <Jesuwope> A standard Linux option, I'm sure, that I never knew!
[15:55] <babou> HaMsTeRs, thats a good question for the server team and I.T. director
[15:55] <babou> personally I like hyperconverged it performs well, its dense, easy to manage
[15:55] <babou> easier on the rack space usage lol
[15:56] <HaMsTeRs> yes, but many of them if limitation during expansion
[15:56] <ducasse> can we move this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic and focus on support?
[15:56] <babou> sorry!
[15:56] <Jesuwope> riiiight
[15:56] <Jesuwope> me 3
[15:56] <HaMsTeRs> oh VDI.  another expansive piece of toy
[15:56] <HaMsTeRs> ok
[15:57]  * HaMsTeRs twists ducasse's nipples
[16:03] <desudesudesudesu> Is there a way to get more colours in my terminal? I don't just mean the $PS1 part - also preferably if I can download premade configs instead of writing them all myself
[16:04] <desudesudesudesu> for example, let's say I use "ifconfig" -- is there a simple way to have the adapter name in one colour, the flags in another colour, the ip info in another
[16:04] <tchakatak> back
[16:04] <ducasse> desudesudesudesu: not really, unless the program supports that
[16:04] <desudesudesudesu> etc etc.. I'm using Xubuntu xfce with the default term if it makes a difference
[16:04] <tchakatak> HaMsTeRs: can you rollback on a official kernel and then list us the problem you have ?
[16:05] <tchakatak> desudesudesudesu: simple no. you could use a zsh and put colors / regex in a zshrc
[16:05] <desudesudesudesu> ducasse, ah thanks. Seems so, couldn't find anything online besides PS1 colours.
[16:06] <ducasse> desudesudesudesu: for example 'ls' supports colored output, but that's because it was coded to do so
[16:07] <desudesudesudesu> tchakatak, thanks, I thought about that :/ But I don't really wanna spend the time making it myself. It will be super tedious lol
[16:07] <tchakatak> desudesudesudesu: so far its the only way i know to add colors for a program who dont support them
[16:08] <HaMsTeRs> tchakatak, if I roll back to official kernel, the problem would be:  problem 1: battery status not showing, problem 2: wifi randomly disconnect, problem 3: touchscreen not recognized, problem 4: system reboot after sleep
[16:08] <tchakatak> +how
[16:08] <ducasse> desudesudesudesu: there's a program called 'ccze' that colorises logs, of that helps
[16:08] <tchakatak> HaMsTeRs: Sleep problems are really tough.
[16:08] <tchakatak> for the touchscreen you might have a workaround.
[16:09] <tchakatak> after your tablet is really new, and an official microsoft product so...
[16:09] <desudesudesudesu> ducasse, I'll check it out. Maybe I can copy their colour/regex/parsing methods and apply to a .zshrc
[16:09] <desudesudesudesu> Thanks <3
[16:10] <ducasse> desudesudesudesu: np. it's in the repos
[16:12] <leonardus> How do I restore the boot manager?  I'm on Ubuntu right now. It used to boot into grub and let me select between ubuntu and windows, I found a workaround which was to manually select it from BIOS every time I boot, but I'm looking for a more permanent solution
[16:13] <tchakatak> leonardus: reinstall grub
[16:13] <ducasse> !fixgrub | leonardus
[16:16] <ducasse> leonardus: if you're booting in uefi mode, just reset the boot order with efibootmgr
[16:19] <chocolate> what a hack is the reason, ubuntu is not going to write the correct path of my windows boot after update-grub command? or even after the install.... it doesn't recognize the right path....
[16:21] <Solaris444> hi all, I'm building a new machine. Any recommendations on hardware?
[16:21] <leonardus> Solaris444: what will you be using it for? what is your budget?
[16:21] <leonardus> you also might want to ask in ##hardware
[16:23] <Solaris444> @leonardus: It will be for business and coding
[16:25] <leonardus> Solaris444: you will get better help in ##hardware
[16:26] <Solaris444> ok i'll head there
[16:26] <chocolate> how do you guys fix the grub boot entry?]
[16:28] <encho> @ducasse - so the easiest method by far to fix the missing Broadco wireless drivers  -IF-  you have access to a cabled connection...
[16:28] <ducasse> Solaris444: in general, try to avoid anything too new, as support might not be quite there yet
[16:28] <encho> is to plug it in, then go to Settings->additional drivers and insatl from there :)
[16:28] <ducasse> encho: yep
[16:29] <encho> I read the article you gave me and understand those methods as well but there were some problems uninstalling bcmwl-kernel-sources)
[16:29] <encho> so eventually I resorted to the wired connection
[16:31] <encho> _coz are you here? .. I can't see you in the list...
[16:32] <encho> I will most likely try your suggestion on my work PC first... coz it takes forever to coplete the download and it will go faster there
[16:35] <chocolate> what would you do, if you install windows in a hard disk isolated. After you place a new hard disk sda, and place the windows hard disk as sdb, and install Ubuntu. However after all it doesn't boot on windows... how would you proceed?
[16:37] <EriC^^> chocolate: what do you mean by doesnt boot on windows?
[16:37] <EriC^^> chocolate: if you put the windows disk alone it doesnt boot anymore?
[16:41] <RahulAN> Hello all
[16:42] <RahulAN> what does the green color processes in htop means ? https://imgur.com/a/RfLAxHN
[16:59] <chocolate> EriC^^: uuid not found at the boot...
[17:00] <erle-> how can I check what Ubuntu version a machine was installed with?
[17:01] <EriC^^> erle-: prior to upgrading you mean?
[17:02] <EriC^^> chocolate: pastebin "sudo parted -ls"
[17:02] <ioria> erle-, /var/log/installer/media-info
[17:05] <erle-> ioria, thanks
[17:05] <ioria> ok
[17:05] <tchakatak> i know its not the place to ask but, does anyone know a good course / tutorial to go with django ?
[17:20] <chocolate> how to recover grub after windows install?
[17:20] <SwedeMike> chocolate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[17:24] <Richard_Cavell> I like to play computer games, but when I do my game stutters unless I close down all active applications.  Is there a way for me to tell Ubuntu 16.04 to put all other apps on freeze to free up the CPU/RAM etc?
[17:26] <tchakatak> !fixgrub | chocolate
[17:32] <pizzaburger> Hello! I have a laptop with a geforce GPU. I've read that Ubuntu sometimes has issues with the drivers. Is this selection appropriate? (imgur link: https://i.imgur.com/X2oQWNB.png) Running Ubuntu 18.10. Thanks!
[17:34] <zzero1> how can I start lightdm from chroot ?
[17:35] <tchakatak> pizzaburger: you can use this one yes
[17:41] <ikonia> pizzaburger: what problem do you think you have ?
[17:41] <ikonia> zzero1: I advise you not to try to start X from within a chroot
[17:43] <zzero1> care to elaborate ikonia ?
[17:43] <pizzaburger> ikonia: I just want to make sure that I have the best option selected considering I can't differentiate between them in terms of performance
[17:43] <zzero1> I 've read about crashes
[17:43] <zzero1> but
[17:44] <zzero1> I'm on a live cd so the hell
[17:44] <ikonia> pizzaburger: if you can't differentiate, what does it matter
[17:44] <ikonia> zzero1: what is the problem you are trying to fix by chrooting ?
[17:45] <zzero1> I 'm customizing an iso image
[17:45] <pizzaburger> ikonia: If I could I wouldn't be here. And it matters because I want the best performance.
[17:46] <zzero1> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/x2TvDZGpy2/
[17:46] <ikonia> pizzaburger: if you can't tell the difference between the performance what does it matter
[17:47] <zzero1> I've found this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/10743/what-to-do-to-run-gui-java-app-in-chrooted-environment
[17:47] <ikonia> zzero1: is that from within the chroot ?
[17:47] <zzero1> ubuntu
[17:47] <zzero1> x64
[17:47] <ikonia> zzero1: so that's a a problem if you boot - no chroot
[17:48] <zzero1> and yes I'm in ubuntu live usb
[17:48] <ikonia> zzero1: or is that the problem you get from within the chroot
[17:48] <ikonia> (just to clarify)
[17:48] <zzero1> thats the problem I get from within the chroot
[17:49] <ikonia> why are you doing it within a chroot
[17:49] <ikonia> why are you just not using ubuntu
[17:49] <zzero1> the system that I 'm chrooted in is a live iso
[17:49] <ikonia> why are you chrooting
[17:50] <ikonia> why not just boot and use the system
[17:50] <zzero1> I'm just trying to customize the iso
[17:50] <ikonia> why ?
[17:50] <ikonia> it feels like you're making a problem
[17:50] <zzero1> I have uncompressed the squashfs and chrooted
[17:50] <ikonia> the ISO launches an X server
[17:50] <ikonia> why not use that as it auto configures it for you
[17:52] <zzero1> I'm doing something similar like this guy http://sethc23.github.io/wiki/1_POSTS/2016-03-10-modifying-linux-filesystem-and-live-cd-via-chroot/
[17:52] <ikonia> that wasn't the question
[17:52] <ikonia> what's the issue with it
[17:52] <ikonia> why are you not using the X server that the livecd auto starts
[17:52] <zzero1> I am
[17:53] <zzero1> for the host
[17:53] <ikonia> for the host....?
[17:53] <ikonia> what are you talking about
[17:53] <zzero1> I can start X applications
[17:53] <zzero1> the chroot host
[17:54] <zzero1> sorry for the confusion allow me to elaborate
[17:54] <zzero1> I'm booted via live usb and have a chroot into an other system
[17:54] <leftyfb> !enter | zzero1
[17:55] <zzero1> the host system is ubuntu too. Makes sense ?
[17:55] <ikonia> zzero1: what are you talking about the chroot host
[17:55] <ikonia> zzero1: there is no host an guest on a livecd
[17:56] <zzero1> yes you would be right. I'm just see more from a virtualization standpoint
[17:56] <zzero1> see it
[17:58] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with virtualisation
[17:58] <ikonia> what is the problem you are trying to fix
[17:58] <courrier> I'm installing an old x86 game on 18.04 (64bits), which complains  "libX11.so.6: no such file or directory" at startup. I assume it is a 32 vs 64 bits issue because /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so actually exists. How is that solvable?
[17:58] <billybigrigger> hi all i'm having issues on 18.04 with nvidia drivers, i did a software update, and it updated my nvidia-390 drivers, and now hdmi doesnt work, so i want to purge nvidia drivers and start from scratch can someone help?
[17:58] <courrier> as well as /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
[17:59] <ikonia> courrier: you'll need the 32bit libs too
[17:59] <ikonia> as it will be referencing them
[18:04] <zzero1> I know that chroot is not intented for virtualization, but I pretty much is use it like it was intended for it
[18:04] <courrier> ikonia: yes it's ok thanks, I missed the :i386 packages
[18:05] <zzero1> I want to customize the system and then repack it in squashfs form
[18:06] <ikonia> zzero1: what is the problem you are trying to solve
[18:08] <zzero1> ikonia question the desktop enviroment does include the desktop right ?
[18:08] <ikonia> zzero1: have you actually booted the livecd you're trying to modify ?
[18:09] <zzero1> no the system I 'm modifying (the unpacked squashfs) resides on a different drive
[18:10] <ikonia> zzero1: boot it - take a look at it, understand the product you're working with
[18:10] <ikonia> zzero1: doing this blind if you don't even know if it comes with a desktop or not is just silly
[18:10] <zzero1> ikonia modifying the system I booted is impossible correct ?
[18:11] <prof2004> hi
[18:11] <zzero1> ikonia: it should come because I took the standard ubuntu iso image and started modifying from chroot
[18:12] <prof2004> may I ask you another question ioria?
[18:12] <ioria> sure
[18:12] <ikonia> zzero1: it's held in ram
[18:12] <ikonia> zzero1: apply a little bit of logic here
[18:13] <slidinghorn> This isn't directly ubuntu related, but hoping I might be able to get an answer: In w3m, I have the "external command to display image" set to feh, but for some reason, it keeps opening my DE's image viewer instead.  Is there something I'm missing?
[18:13] <ikonia> zzero1: why are you even chrooting, you seem to be creating a problem
[18:13] <prof2004> booting up I get always the grub menue, and the boot messages from ubuntu are displayed
[18:14] <prof2004> in /etc/grub ther is one entry, do not understand: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug"
[18:14] <ioria> prof2004, and are you sure you don't want the grub menu ?
[18:14] <prof2004> you know, if everything is ok, I do not need it.
[18:14] <ioria> prof2004, no there is not, you remove those
[18:14] <prof2004> what did I remove?
[18:14] <zzero1> well how can I modify the standard ubuntu live iso ? It seems that you have to unpack the squashfs system do your mods and then repack it and create the iso
[18:15] <ioria> prof2004, drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug
[18:15] <prof2004> no, it is there
[18:15] <ioria> prof2004, quite impossible
[18:15] <prof2004> shall I paste for you
[18:15] <ioria> prof2004, that it was the old 'grub'
[18:16] <ioria> prof2004, those are debug kernel parameters for intel (probably) and plymouth
[18:17] <rexwin_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable
[18:17] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zXBYw7G3jz/
[18:17] <rexwin_> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[18:17] <rexwin_> when trying to run sudo apt-get update
[18:17] <ioria> prof2004, that is the backup of /etc/default/grub
[18:19] <prof2004> no, that is my current /etc/default/grub
[18:20] <ioria> prof2004, so ou changed it again
[18:20] <ioria> *y
[18:20] <rexwin_> can even run root
[18:20] <prof2004> no, I was just investigating, why I am in grub menu during startup and how to hidden the boot messages
[18:21] <ioria> prof2004, maybe i'am not clear: that it's not the 'grub' file we worked with
[18:21] <prof2004> I have nothing changed, just starting to change, when I have seen this entry
[18:22] <prof2004> you know, we have been working with the .39 image, because .42 did not work
[18:22] <ioria> prof2004, no relation with the kernelversion
[18:22] <prof2004> oh, ok
[18:22] <prof2004> I have no clue, why it is what it is
[18:23] <prof2004> have found in ubuntuusers, that the entry should be normally "quiet splash"
[18:23] <prof2004> right?
[18:24] <ioria> right
[18:25] <prof2004> shall I modify accordingly?
[18:27] <ioria> prof2004, first, you should find out how a system file has been modified 8if not by you)
[18:27] <prof2004> ok, what shall I do?
[18:29] <ioria> prof2004, i'am not aware of a piece of sw able to edit grub in that way automatically
[18:30] <prof2004> believe me, I do not really understand, what this setup means
[18:30] <ioria> prof2004, i told you , they are debug instructions
[18:30] <prof2004> nor would I enter something like this without remembering
[18:33] <prof2004> there is the file grub.back in the folder, too, it has the same entry
[18:34] <prof2004> this file is the result of the copy, we made before modifying grub
[18:35] <ioria> prof2004, correct, i made you backup that file and i paste for you another version
[18:35] <ioria> *ed
[18:36] <prof2004> if this is only creating of debug infos, then I should be able to restore the standard values instead
[18:37] <prof2004> I have checked the logs, and all errors I could find are known problems of ubuntu
[18:38] <ioria> prof2004, /usr/share/grub/default/grub
[18:38] <prof2004> the log also shows, that the debug parameter have been used
[18:38] <ioria> sure
[18:40] <prof2004> I have found the file, what shall I do?
[18:41] <ioria> prof2004, what you think ?
[18:41] <prof2004> copy and use in /etc/default/grub
[18:41] <prof2004> ?
[18:43] <ioria> prof2004, if you cp that file (/usr/share/grub/default/grub) in /etc/default, the grub file will be overwritten  then you run sudo update-grub
[18:43] <prof2004> ok
[18:44] <billybigrigger> can someone help me with my nvidia problems
[18:44] <prof2004> done
[18:44] <billybigrigger> i've tried about 10 times to install a working nvidia driver in 18.04, i had working hdmi output before an update, but it's broken now
[18:45] <slidinghorn> This isn't directly ubuntu related, but hoping I might be able to get an answer: In w3m, I have the "external command to display image" set to feh, but for some reason, it keeps opening my DE's image viewer instead.  Is there something I'm missing?
[18:46] <prof2004> ioria, shall I do a reboot?
[18:50] <prof2004> I will do a reboot, cu
[18:51] <eein> I got a Ricoh Theta V 360 camera a couple of days ago that stopped being recognized as a device. I was able to connect it a few days ago and get some pics off. It shows as charging but nothing in lsusb or dmesg
[18:52] <prof2004> i am back again
[18:53] <prof2004> ioria, boot was as expected and very very fast :)
[18:53] <prof2004> many thanks to you for your help and patience, cu
[18:54] <ducasse> eein: can you try another usb cable to make sure it's not a charging only cable?
[18:56] <borgdrone7> Hi guys, I am trying to run Ubuntu on Lenovo X1 Yoga 1st gen (i7 6600, 16Gb RAM). It boots but whatever app I start it starts it and closes immediately. I am using Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS. Anyone knows how to solve the issue?
[19:05] <ioria> borgdrone7, can you open a terminal ?
[19:06] <borgdrone7> ioria: no, same thing happens, it just closes
[19:07] <borgdrone7> I am now downloading 18.10 but probably it will be the same.
[19:07] <ioria> borgdrone7, i think it's a bad install (from a bad media i mean)
[19:07] <borgdrone7> Ok, thanks, will try reinstalling
[19:07] <ioria> borgdrone7, how do you do the stick ?
[19:08] <borgdrone7> I created bootable drive with itcher
[19:08] <borgdrone7> Etcher I mean
[19:10] <ioria> borgdrone7, it's ok, check the iso then
[19:10] <borgdrone7> Ok, thanks
[19:12] <ps-ax> hi guys... again here..
[19:16] <coconut> Is there any recommended partition layout somewhere online?
[19:23] <tchakatak> coconut: not really
[19:23] <tchakatak> the minimum is / /boot swap
[19:23] <tchakatak> i use / /boot /home swap
[19:24] <tchakatak> with / /home and swap luks / lvm
[19:25] <coconut> tchakatak: because i am thinking about a new laptop, and trying to sum up the partitions for it. :)
[19:28] <tchakatak> coconut: having a /home separated is a good thing
[19:28] <tchakatak> you can work on other partition or having a /home between 2 or more distrib if you need.
[19:28] <tchakatak> and its also nice to dont have any user data on the /
[19:30] <coconut> :)
[19:31] <eein> ducasse, I tried that. After reseating several times it came up. Not sure what is going on. From what I understand some usb cables have shortened data pins? Maybe it isnt making contact?
[19:31] <compdoc> tchakatak, is a samba share a good way to access the same /home from diff distribs?
[19:31] <coconut> I need to figure out their sizes though.
[19:33] <eein> oh nm they miswrote is isnt shortened data pins it shorted
[19:34] <eein> that makes way more sense but that would make a charge only cable. I wouldn't get intermittent results if that were the case with the cable
[19:40] <slidinghorn> This isn't directly ubuntu related, but hoping I might be able to get an answer: In w3m, I have the "external command to display image" set to feh, but for some reason, it keeps opening my DE's image viewer instead.  Is there something I'm missing?
[19:44] <ps-ax> guys i have a question...guide me how to set radeon as my default driver on ubuntu?
[19:44] <ps-ax> i mean.. i hace read its theone which supports my amd card (radeon hd 5570)
[19:45] <ps-ax> but when i start the ubuntu it doesnt send any signal to the monitor
[19:45] <ps-ax> tried nomodeset and it load.. but only for tty in ctrl + alt + F2
[19:46] <ikonia> what do you mean by default driver
[19:46] <ps-ax> and also tried with a previous kernel, it seems to runs well but when i got to puss my password it freeze the graphics
[19:46] <ps-ax> i mean.. it seems like i have fglrx and radeon installed by default
[19:47] <ikonia> what card do you have and what is the appropriate kernel module to support it
[19:47] <ps-ax> and when it starts it gimme a error like no UMS support radeon
[19:47] <ps-ax> my card is a radeon hd 5570
[19:48] <ikonia> and what is the correct kernel module to support that ?
[19:48] <ps-ax> i readed that radeon free driver is the best
[19:48] <ps-ax> semms like i have installed it
[19:48] <ps-ax> but still doesnt load
[19:48] <ikonia> ok - stop making assumptions
[19:49] <ikonia> you've installed what you think is the correct kernel module, that's a good start
[19:49] <ps-ax> sorry.. its because im confused
[19:49] <ikonia> what kernel module is actually being loaded ?
[19:49] <ps-ax> how can i check that?
[19:49] <ikonia> ok so you don't know ?
[19:49] <ps-ax> let me google it
[19:50] <ikonia> you need to not make statements you don't know like "it's not loading it" when you don't know if it's loaded or not
[19:50] <IniGit> hi
[19:50] <ikonia> just state the problem and people will help if they can, giving incorrect information won't help
[19:50] <ps-ax> yep
[19:50] <ps-ax> m,y bad sorry
[19:50] <ioria> ps-ax, for the record,fglrx it's not available anymore
[19:51] <IniGit> Can somebody tell me why does lsblk lists a different owner for a drive then nautilus>"right click on drive">properties. natilus says I am the owner and lsblk says root
[19:51] <IniGit> ?
[19:51] <ikonia> IniGit: lsblk shouldn't list an owner
[19:52] <IniGit> I executed sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,UUID,RO,RM,SIZE,STATE,OWNER,GROUP,MODE,TYPE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL,MODEL
[19:52] <ikonia> IniGit: -o isn't a alid option
[19:53] <ikonia> oh, I see what you mean
[19:53] <ikonia> IniGit: that's a device owner, not a file system
[19:53] <ikonia> which is what nautlius shows
[19:54] <IniGit> My problem is that my libreoffice document opens in read only on my new drive and on my desktop it opens correctly not in read only mode
[19:54] <IniGit> I thought that their may be an issue with ownership or so
[19:54] <ikonia> IniGit: what file system is on the disk ?
[19:54] <IniGit> ext4
[19:54] <Iolo> Is it possible to change which partition landscape-sysinfo reports the usage of, or preferrably to add more partitions to the report?
[19:54] <IniGit> on both
[19:55] <ikonia> IniGit: I wonder if it's the tmp file being created that's the rpbolem
[19:55] <ikonia> IniGit: or if the drive is just mounted read only
[19:55] <ikonia> try creating a random file on it, see if it's ok with that
[19:56] <IniGit> /dev/sdf1 on /media/gernot/DataLinux type ext4 (ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,data=ordered,uhelper=udisks2)
[19:57] <IniGit> does ro mean it is read only?
[19:57] <ioria> ro
[19:58] <ikonia> IniGit: read only
[19:58] <IniGit> thx
[19:58] <IniGit> that's weird. When I remount it via the gnome-disks it gets mounted as rw
[19:59] <IniGit> I try a restart
[19:59] <IniGit> maybe I need an entry in fstab
[19:59] <ikonia> nope
[19:59] <ikonia> you don't
[20:00] <IniGit> why?
[20:00] <IniGit> Maybe it gets always mounted as ro on system startup idk
[20:00] <ikonia> why do you ?
[20:00] <IniGit> I will test it
[20:00] <ikonia> no it doesn't
[20:00] <ikonia> if it's getting mounted read only by default, it has a problem
[20:00] <IniGit> ok
[20:06] <IniGit> ok I restarted and the drive was mounted as rw again, which is good
[20:08] <ioria> IniGit, but check the permissions :ls -ld /media/user/<drive>
[20:11] <IniGit> Seems fine: drwxr-xr-x 5 gernot gernot 4096 Dez  9 20:09 /media/gernot/DataLinux
[20:11] <ioria> ok
[20:12] <slidinghorn> This isn't directly ubuntu related, but hoping I might be able to get an answer: In w3m, I have the "external command to display image" set to feh (i've tried 'feh', 'feh %f', and 'feh -F %f'), but for some reason, it keeps opening my DE's image viewer (or Firefox, or GIMP) instead.  Is there something I'm missing?
[20:12] <IniGit> blkid is printing nothing. blkid alone should normally priont something right?
[20:12] <IniGit> ahh sudo
[20:13] <ps-ax> yep guys it tries to load radeon module on the start but it gimme the following error
[20:14] <ps-ax> VGACON disable radeon kernel modesetting
[20:15] <ps-ax> radeon:init  Error no RMS support on radeon module
[20:15] <ps-ax> UMS*
[20:16] <ioria> ps-ax,  you don't load radeon 'on the start'
[20:18] <ioria> ps-ax,  what ubuntu version and what kernel in use ?
[20:18] <ps-ax> latest ubuntu and the kernel is 4-18-0-12
[20:19] <ioria> ps-ax,  lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:19] <texla> How to list startup applications in ubuntu 18.04.1 lts
[20:20] <ioria> texla, /etc/xdg/autostart/indicator-application.desktop
[20:20] <ioria> texla, or .config/autostart/
[20:21] <ioria> texla, /etc/xdg/autostart/   i mean
[20:22] <ps-ax> http://termbin.com/zlck
[20:22] <pglewis> ioria: I believe you're the one who got me back to able to boot due to oibaf yesterday, so thanks a million for that
[20:22] <ps-ax> thats the list of my pci hardware rght?
[20:22] <ioria> pglewis, no problem
[20:23] <ioria> ps-ax,  it's ok, ehat's the issue ?
[20:23] <ioria> +what
[20:23] <ioria> ps-ax,  sorry, ye not loaded
[20:23] <n00balert> where can I find an ubuntu advanced system administration and troubleshooting guide?
[20:23] <ps-ax> oh
[20:24] <ioria> ps-ax,  dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[20:24] <ps-ax> it tries to load an intel driver?
[20:24] <ioria> ps-ax,  it loads nothing
[20:25] <pglewis> I'm concerned that something is persisting the information about those drivers and it may attempt to update/reinstall again in the future if I'm not careful at looking at what's in the updates
[20:26] <ioria> ps-ax,  dpkg -l | grep fglrx | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:26] <ps-ax> shows nothing
[20:27] <ioria> ps-ax,  cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:27] <pglewis> backstory: I orginally installed amdgpu/oibaf from a web search as the docs matched my system and card and I figured it was worth a try to see if there was better performance.  I couldn't boot after install but managed to get things back via recovery mode and (I thought) remove that stuff
[20:28] <pglewis> in my defense, the docs for amdgpu mention an uninstall file that does not exist
[20:28] <ioria> pglewis, not if you removed the source
[20:29] <ioria> pglewis, you mean amdgpu-pro ?
[20:29] <pglewis> checking software and updates in other software, file:/var/opt/amdgpu-pro-local is listed
[20:29] <pglewis> if I remove that it just returns
[20:29] <ps-ax> http://termbin.com/qft3
[20:29] <pglewis> and I'm out of my wheelhouse here
[20:29] <ioria> pglewis, no good, why do you have oibaf and amdgpu-pro at the sametime ?
[20:30] <ioria> pglewis, they are alternatives
[20:30] <pglewis> most likely following internet "advice" from web searches, this was intially done a few weeks back
[20:30] <pglewis> embarassingly I can't quite recall the full steps that got me there
[20:30] <ioria> pglewis, dpkg -l | grep amdgpu
[20:31] <pglewis> but I thought I'd wiped it and things were peachy for a few weeks
[20:32] <ioria> ps-ax,  is that a fresh install of 18.10 ?
[20:32] <ps-ax> yep
[20:32] <ps-ax> indeed it never loaded after the install xD
[20:32] <pglewis> http://termbin.com/hatj
[20:33] <ioria> ps-ax,  redwood 5770 is supported in 18.10 by radeon
[20:34] <ps-ax> yep
[20:34] <ps-ax> and i have followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[20:35] <ioria> ps-ax,  cat /proc/cmdline
[20:35] <ps-ax> ok
[20:35] <pglewis> also, as a refresher, I've done the following regarding oibaf:
[20:35] <pglewis> sudo ppa-purge ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers
[20:35] <pglewis> sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers
[20:36] <ioria> pglewis, it's ok... what's the problem now ?
[20:36] <ps-ax> http://termbin.com/iz3o
[20:37] <ioria> ps-ax, did you boot with nomodeset ?
[20:37] <pglewis> My concern is that apparently on Friday the software updates brought oibaf back from the dead.  I was juggling 6 tasks at the time and am used to just hitting the "go" button and minimizing so did not study the list
[20:37] <ps-ax> the nomodeset was setted by me on the grub
[20:37] <ps-ax> otherwise it doesnt sent a signal to thew monitor
[20:37] <ioria> ps-ax, what happens if you boot without it ?
[20:37] <pglewis> I was actually in the process of a software release of my own lol, I chose not to reboot at that time, I chose wisely
[20:37] <ioria> i see
[20:37] <ioria> ps-ax, maybe it's too old that card
[20:38] <ps-ax> :<
[20:38] <ps-ax> maybe with other old kernel
[20:38] <ioria> ps-ax, you can try dri  false in a custom xrog.conf
[20:38] <ioria> *xorg
[20:39] <ps-ax> dri false?
[20:39] <ps-ax> gotta google about it
[20:40] <ioria> ps-ax, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI
[20:42] <OerHeks> ps-ax, for that "Radeon HD 5550/5570/5630/6510/6610/7570"   the standard radeon driver should be fine, without nomodeset
[20:43] <ioria> OerHeks, looks like it's not
[20:43] <pglewis> So given my ignorance on what I've done and the fact that oibaf has come back once after thinking I'd removed it, I want to understand how and why that happend and avoid a repeat.  Wasn't how I wanted to spend my Saturday
[20:43] <zzero1> ioria: do you happen to know why the xubuntu user is not listed in the /etc/passwd (live iso) ?
[20:44] <ioria> zzero1, sorry, nope
[20:46] <zzero1> my best guess is that is created on boot every time
[20:47] <ioria> ps-ax, that is for intel ,to be honest, but you can try  :   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and put in it this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YM78HBFRqj/
[20:47] <zzero1> because I tried to use systemd-nspawn and cannot login
[20:48] <slidinghorn> This isn't directly ubuntu related, but hoping I might be able to get an answer: In w3m, I have the "external command to display image" set to feh (i've tried 'feh', 'feh %f', and 'feh -F %f'), but for some reason, it keeps opening my DE's image viewer (or Firefox, or GIMP) instead.  Is there something I'm missing?
[21:10] <eein> OK so something seems to be wrong with the mounting of devices with this computer. I bring it to another ubuntu install and everything mounts fine. If I reboot this problematic laptop into windows it mounts fine there
[21:10] <core7> what is a good ppa to get updated git for 16.04 LTS?
[21:13] <core7> got it -> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:git-core/ppa
[21:13] <core7> thanks
[21:19] <eein> does anyone know what handles mounting on 16.04
[21:22] <OerHeks> mount, and fstab
[21:24] <eein> I doubt it is fstab. doesnt that just hold configs for fix mounted devices?
[21:25] <OerHeks> what device does not mount, exactly?
[21:25] <OerHeks> with what filesystem
[21:26] <eein> My Google Pixel 2 XL never prompts in the notification to allow USB transfer it only charges. My Ricoh Theta V 360 camera sometimes mounts sometimes just charges
[21:26] <eein> ^notification on the phone
[21:27] <eein> those are all different cables. USB to USB C for the Pixel and microUSB for the Theta
[21:27] <OerHeks> those devices need to be turned on/off the lockscreen to automount, yes
[21:27] <eein> take it to another Ubuntu 16.04 box and they all mount no problem with the same cables
[21:27] <OerHeks> but you say 'problematic laptop' ..
[21:28] <OerHeks> maybe it works with adapter, not just on battery
[21:28] <eein> what I mean is it isn;t hardware of the laptop. If I dual boot back to Windows it works fine
[21:28] <eein> just this 16.04 install is the problem
[21:29] <eein> again same equipment on another OS or same cables on another 16.04 works flawlessly
[21:29] <eein> just this install it wont work
[21:30] <craigbass76> Is there a way to use openvpn without a certificate? A fellow trying to let me into his only uses a username and pass. I can't even get the save button to light up unless I'm using a certificate.
[21:30] <craigbass76> ^^ in the edit connection window I mean
[21:34] <OerHeks> craigbass76, as you already found out: no. you *can* make a non-encrypted tunnel, see https://forums.openvpn.net/viewtopic.php?t=24224
[21:41] <tchakatak> for the users of xautolock, how do you make it detect while you have an app running in fullscreen (like a youtube or a netflix video) and dont want to trigger the timer ?
[21:48] <ducasse> tchakatak: aiui the program that plays the video should set a flag that prevents the idle timer from counting down
[21:52] <computa_mike> Trying to rip an Audio CD to MP3 - I have the ugly codecs installed, but rhythmbox keeps erroring saying 'can't use encoding audio/mpeg due to missing plugins'
[21:53] <computa_mike> I have been able to rip to OGG - but my car won't play them, so I need to rip to MP3
[21:58] <kk4ewt> computa_mike, so ripping audo cd which was likely mp3 to mp3 can be crappy
[21:58] <OerHeks> computa_mike, i use asunder, but carefull, disable ogg in the settings and turn mp3 on
[21:58] <kk4ewt> lossy to lossy
[21:59] <OerHeks> ugly codec = lame ?
[22:05] <TheWild> hello
[22:06] <OerHeks> hi TheWild
[22:06] <TheWild> say, apt does not serve. Do you have any hints of how to properly look around http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ?
[22:12] <[rg]> hey all, is there a way for me to maintain a list of packages (repo) and install them all? or do I just have to make that list myself and make a script to install all the packages?
[22:28] <Kremator> folks, is there an repo or an "official" way of upgrading to a newer kernel in buntus?
[22:28] <Kremator> i mean, to a newer one than the one setup'd at the "feature freeze  release"
[22:29] <Kremator> because i have 18.04 but im still on 4.15 and i would like to try 4.19 or 4.20 kernels
[22:37] <vlt> [rg]: `dpkg --get-selections` (and then later --set-selections to restore)
[22:38] <[rg]> vlt: will that show manually installed packages?
[22:40] <OerHeks> Kremator, not sure HWE gives that upgrade path, and or .19 / .20 available, 20 is in RC you know
[22:40] <OerHeks> !hwe
[22:40] <OerHeks> else install manually the mainline repo
[22:40] <OerHeks> !mainline
[22:45] <sappheiros> please help me resolve this bug: i reported the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qpdfview/+bug/1807621
[22:46] <ikonia> sappheiros: how do we resolve it ?
[22:50] <ikonia> !infro qpdfview
[22:50] <ikonia> !info qpdfview
[22:50] <ikonia> !info qpdfview cosmic
[22:52] <vlt> [rg]: Yes.
[22:53] <[rg]> vlt: thanks so much, I can script this now
[23:13] <Yukkuri> hi, i am having a bit broken liveusb with ubuntu, where i can boot in GUI, setup network and make a chroot (if needed). Given that, can i get a non-broken version of ubuntu installer (via deb packages and custom repo maybe) in a chroot?
[23:20] <vlt> Yukkuri: Just use your slightly broken system to download the clean iso image and write that to a USB device.
[23:23] <jmadero> hi all - I'm having a nightmare time with basic samba setup, my system is spitting out this error when I try to mount a samba share: mount error(2): No such file or directory
[23:24] <jmadero> lol I'm an idiot, scratch that
[23:31] <a1Cypher> hey folks.  I recently updated a machine from 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS.  Everything went smoothly but now I am having problems with samba.  My windows machine will not connect and says the password/user is wrong.   SMB is running and I am able to connect to it from other linux machines using smbclient and the expected username/passwod.


[22:11] <demas> hey guys there!!!is there anyone besides bots in this channel?
[22:11] <demas> I guess not hmm
[22:11] <demas> ???
[22:11] <demas> so I just better leave then
[22:12] <demas> goodnight then!!!


[06:55] <mokmeister> morning all
[09:58] <hughbert> good morning lads....
[09:59] <hughbert> how are ye?
[10:55] <ShaneM_> Hey hughbert
[11:06] <hughbert> well dudes...
[11:06] <hughbert> i wanted ti gi ti dublin today...
[11:07] <czajkowski> you also want a o and not a i
[11:07] <hughbert> to goto the young sciencists...
[11:08] <hughbert> sorry...
[11:08] <hughbert> any news with ye?
[11:09] <hughbert> i applied for a job last week...
[11:10] <ShaneM_> Get it?
[11:10] <hughbert> for google....
[11:10] <ShaneM_> oh cool :)
[11:10] <ShaneM_> What position did you go for?
[11:11] <hughbert> no aparently, you have to get 7 inerviews for the google inc.
[11:11] <hughbert> so they'll be sifting my data for a few weeks....
[11:11] <ShaneM_> Pressures on :)
[11:12] <hughbert> i'll give them a month....
[11:12] <hughbert> 8000++ results for google search....
[11:13] <hughbert> jaysus.. it'll be ages before they ring me.....
[11:13] <hughbert> ha ha...
[11:14] <hughbert> hardware design is my interest...
[11:15] <hughbert> robots....
[11:15] <hughbert> open BIOS
[11:15] <hughbert> and stuff....
[11:15] <ShaneM> Ah
[11:15] <hughbert> love robots...
[11:16] <ShaneM> I like messing with Arduino and stuff like that
[11:16] <ShaneM> But I don't have enough time to do anything else :)
[11:17] <hughbert> could anybody give me a hand with an irish language.. website...
[11:17] <hughbert> ???
[11:17] <ShaneM> Goggle translate would be more help then me :P
[11:17] <hughbert> cooo me too... keep at it..
[11:17] <hughbert> coool*
[11:18] <hughbert> cool beans. (the code though)...
[11:20] <hughbert> last night i got a great website from european software inc... cheap software...
[11:20] <hughbert> http://www.storeoemone.ru/
[11:20] <hughbert> russian i think...
[11:20] <hughbert> privet!!!
[11:21] <hughbert> (hello)...
[11:22] <ShaneM> ....umm firefox says it's a security issues >_>
[11:23] <hughbert> i know just ignore that shit...
[11:23] <hughbert> all the russian sites are the same...
[11:23] <ShaneM> haha
[11:23] <hughbert> racists!!! ha ha...
[11:26] <hughbert> lads i have to head to bed....
[11:26] <hughbert> up all night last night...
[11:26] <hughbert> fecked....
[11:26] <hughbert> good night...
[11:26] <hughbert> or afternoon...
[11:26] <tdr112> hughbert: good luck with the google job , i am working for them last summer , they should let you know very quickly it you dont get the job , the longer it goes on the better it is
[11:32] <czajkowski> anyone know of students looking for weekend work
[11:33] <czajkowski> saturday and sunday 9-6 support work
[11:33] <tdr112> a few
[14:47] <czajkowski> tdr112: helpful :)
[14:50] <tdr112> czajkowski: can you send me a few details about it , i would be intrested and a firend of mine at college
[14:50] <czajkowski> ok


[03:16] <dodobrain> hi all.. if a package does *not* contain a file it advertises as included, do i ask here or just in #ubuntu?
[03:18] <dodobrain> and it is most definitely a packaging issue! as i have already checked the checksums as advertised on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:19] <RAOF> dodobrain: How do you know the package does not contain the file you believe it includes?
[03:20] <dodobrain> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/openjdk-7-jre-headless    and  the filelist  http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/openjdk-7-jre-headless/filelist  says  /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/ext/pulse-java.jar is included
[03:21] <dodobrain> this file /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/ext/pulse-java.jar is *nowhere to be found on my system*
[03:21] <dodobrain> and eclipse just shows loads of my projects as broken
[03:21] <dodobrain> and i have verified that it does *not* include said file in the package file /var/cache/apt/archives/openjdk-7-jre-headless_7u71-2.5.3-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_amd64.deb
[03:24] <dodobrain> RAOF, so can you verify what i have said as true by simply inspecting the downloaded deb file?
[03:24]  * RAOF looks
[03:26] <dodobrain> instead of /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/ext/pulse-java.jar  there is  /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/ext/icedtea-sound.jar
[03:26] <dodobrain> and icedtea-sound.jar is present when it is *not* present in the filelist of the package
[03:26] <dodobrain> how did this happen? i thought the filelist is generated from the actual package itself
[03:27] <RAOF> So did I.
[03:27] <dodobrain> so have you verified what i said?
[03:28] <RAOF> Yeah. I can only see pulse-java.jar in openjdk-6-jre
[03:29] <RAOF> Well, and libpulse-java, but I don't know if that's what you're after.
[03:30] <dodobrain> what the heck is libpulse-java
[03:30]  * dodobrain looks
[03:30] <RAOF> The package that contains pulse-java.jar :)
[03:30] <dodobrain> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=pulse-java.jar&mode=exactfilename&suite=trusty&arch=amd64
[03:30] <dodobrain> shows no libpulse-java
[03:31] <RAOF> Ah, right. Shiny and new in 14.10, it seems.
[03:31] <dodobrain> right.. so you guys messed up the lts
[03:31] <dodobrain> :'(
[03:32] <teward> that's a bit harsh to say dodobrain
[03:32] <dodobrain> it is, sadly
[03:32] <teward> it's entirely possible for that library to have NOT been present when LTS was made/released
[03:32] <dodobrain> cos for java devs, you just broke stuff
[03:32] <teward> and then later introduced in Debian, for example
[03:32] <dodobrain> teward, sorry, it was working fine!
[03:33] <teward> dodobrain: don't blame MOTU for LTS being messed up, nor is it sane to state that the LTS is entirely broken as a result of your java development being impacted
[03:33] <teward> nor is it sane to slap everyone with the blame either.
[03:33] <RAOF> Ok.
[03:34] <dodobrain> well, i didn;t say lts was broken.. just that 'stuff' was broken. also, in hindsight, it might have been a bit harsh. but stuff is definitely broken ;)
[03:34] <RAOF> Looks like it changed between 7u51-2.4.6-1ubuntu4 and 7u71-2.5.3-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:34] <dodobrain> yes, i apt-get upgraded and hit the problem
[03:34] <teward> RAOF: E:Regression ?
[03:34] <RAOF> teward: Looks like it.
[03:35] <dodobrain> given that icedtea-sound.jar got it. i would say it looks more like the utopic package simply got built for trusty as well
[03:36] <dodobrain> s/it/in
[03:36] <RAOF> Right, it was.
[03:36] <dodobrain> thank you for your understanding.
[03:37] <RAOF> Because we can't reasonably backport Java security fixes :/
[03:37] <teward> yep, looks like a backport... and it looks like jdstrand may have been on the radar for that - perhaps this needs to be poked up to the sec team, because it's a security update that broke this?
[03:37] <dodobrain> now how do we get the actual update going?
[03:37] <dodobrain> well, 7u72 was released by oracle within hours of 7u71
[03:38] <teward> keep in mind openjdk != oracle, just saying
[03:39] <dodobrain> sure
[03:43] <RAOF> dodobrain: Can you please add relevant details to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-7/+bug/1389493 ?
[03:46] <RAOF> dodobrain: Particularly - I'm not sure what the actual symptom is here, nor how Eclipse or other projects would be impacted.
[03:47] <dodobrain> essentially the projects within eclipse will show as broken because one of the files (pulse-java.jar) disappeared
[03:48] <dodobrain> cmdline and other applications will not really be affected
[03:49] <dodobrain> and eclipse will remain affected *until* user goes into preferences and deletes the existing JRE and adds back the same rooted at /usr/lib/jvm/openjdk-7-amd64  and then set it back as default
[03:49] <dodobrain> it will not affect those who run eclipse for the very first time *after* getting this update
[03:50] <RAOF> And ‘show as broken’ means that they won't build/work? Or is it just cosmetic?
[03:50] <dodobrain> for everyone else who has run eclispe atleast once before this update, it will 'show' the projects as broken
[03:51] <dodobrain> and if they don;t dig around enough or don;t know how to, they will always get reports that their project is broken
[03:51] <dodobrain> 'show as broken' means when you try to run/launch the project executables or unit tests it will say project contains errors
[03:56] <RAOF> Ok. That seems like it qualifies as sufficiently dire :(
[03:57] <dodobrain> yup, i can imagine some people desperately trying to find out why their projects are broken, because eclipse doesn't tell you immediately that there is a problem in the jre and not the project itself
[03:57] <dodobrain> and restarting eclipse a million times won;t fix it.
[03:59] <dodobrain> well, it will if you change to a new workspace, but then you'll have to import back all your existing projects into this new workspace (which could trigger re-build of every imported project)
[05:08] <dodobrain> RAOF, thanks for creating the bug report and adding in useful info.
[05:08] <RAOF> Thanks for reporting it.
[11:39] <ghorn_> hello
[11:50] <ghorn_> i just adopted a debian package (coinor-ipopt) and made some patches, i would like to get them into ubuntu
[11:50] <ghorn_> is it possible to get them into older releases like the two LTS releases?
[11:50] <ghorn_> they close a number of outstanding ubuntu bugs
[11:53] <sil2100> ghorn_: hello! First of all, thanks for working on these patches - what you need to do firsthand is fill in a bug targeting this source package on Launchpad with all the details
[11:54] <sil2100> ghorn_: the general rule is that once the package gets accepted and released to the current development release, it can be considered for SRUing into the older stable releases if the bugs seem high-priority enough
[11:55] <sil2100> ghorn_: if you fill in the bug, please subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to it
[11:55] <sil2100> ghorn_: this way we'll know that you want sponsoring of your package upload
[11:56] <ghorn_> ok
[11:56] <ghorn_> make a bug report "please sync from debian testing" ?
[11:57] <ghorn_> or do you mean details on how I want to push this package into older releases?
[12:01] <ghorn_> sil2100: thanks for answering btw
[12:01] <sil2100> ghorn_: a sync request should be enough :) This makes it much easier for us to track then
[12:02] <ghorn_> sil2100: ok thank you
[12:02] <sil2100> yw!
[12:04] <ghorn_> sil2100: sorry to waste your time, i now see that the package was automatically sync'd into vivid vervet a week ago
[12:05] <ghorn_> sil2100: i will look into the SRU process