[00:25] <FernandoCueva> what's wiggle means
[00:26] <Dulak> bounce or flash to gain attention
[00:30] <thiebaude> hey Dr_willis
[00:32] <BlakJak> I got one... I want to do something similar to what Windows does when the Panel Window Buttons get full... at the moment you can set window buttons to group 'always' or 'never'... why isn't there a 'when panel is full' option??
[00:32] <BlakJak> (xubuntu)
[00:45] <Num83rGuy> I set up KDE's file sharing (samba) But the windows machene asks for user and pass when I put mine in it says fail.
[00:57] <Num83rGuy> NVM Fixed.
[00:57] <Num83rGuy> sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[00:57] <hank__> Hi, how is it hangin' with Unity UI? when is it "finished"?
[00:58] <FernandoCueva> I'm trying everything I can to mount this floppy drive that's 1.68MB size and I can't do it nothing's on the target directory I'm using the command sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy/ -t vfat -o ro,user,noauto,exec,utf8
[01:03] <bazhang> FernandoCueva, please dont crosspost in multiple channels
[01:08] <Dmole> On a fresh install the menu bar is missing, but it shows in virtualbox, can anyone help?
[01:15] <luckyone> hello all - are there handbrake ppa's available for precise? I thought stebbins would have one, but I don't see that package available.
[01:17] <bazhang> luckyone, let me check
[01:20] <bazhang> luckyone, probably waiting for precise to be released, but I have no doubt it will be there; in the past the maverick worked for natty as I was waiting for natty release, but since the actual release of pangolin is just a few weeks away its really up to you
[01:31] <log> Dmole: Are you sure it's missing? You know how the global menu works, right?
[01:32] <log> luckyone: The oneiric version will probably work with precise.
[01:49] <snadge> im using the oneiric version of virtualbox with precise
[01:49] <snadge> which appears to work okay
[02:01] <Dmole> log: yes I'm quite sure, I have it working on virtual box just not the laptop, + I can the outline of where it should be when I search
[02:30] <skyjumper> is compiz choppy for anyone else?
[02:34] <itaylor57> it was yesterday
[02:35] <skyjumper> not now?
[02:36] <itaylor57> no i am fine today
[02:39] <decksmasher> Hi guys.ive just downloaded ubuntu 12.04 and love it, but i really want to run fluxbox with it. i was just wondering if anybody has done this before i started.?
[03:41] <Roasted> hi
[03:41] <Roasted> anybody use rhythmbox? I'm finding it won't full screen on my 2nd monitor
[04:24] <rye> Anybody had any issues printing on 12.04 - when the cups reports everything is printed but nothing gets out of the printer (e.g. w/ SpliX drivers)
[04:24]  * micahg is having issues with HP
[04:25] <rye> micahg: issues like the one i described?
[04:26] <micahg> rye: yes
[04:27] <micahg> with HP the firmware wasn't loaded, once I did that I had no issue printing
[04:27] <rye> micahg: well, in my case the printer does not need the firmware, so it does not look like the same thing
[04:28] <micahg> rye: kern.log shows the printer repeatedly disconnecting though
[04:31] <rye> micahg: oh, this is interesting, same here
[04:34] <tr0n> i downloaded ntop but when i run it i get an error saying to run it with -P <directory>, what dir should i specify?
[04:43] <rye> tr0n: check the man page of ntop - -P --db-file-path, -Q --spool-file-path These parameters specify where ntop stores database files. This is not 12.04-specific question though
[04:44] <tr0n> well i run 12.04
[04:47] <tr0n> i just ran elinks http://localhost:3000 and it worked
[05:30] <wasteoftime> hey can i get oneiric knowledge here
[05:31] <tr0n> no, read the topic
[05:31] <tr0n> go to #ubuntu
[05:31] <wasteoftime> i am banned from everywhere
[05:31] <wasteoftime> isint precise linux??/
[05:32] <tr0n> again, read the topic
[05:32] <tr0n> this is a channel for precise
[05:32] <tr0n> !ot | wasteoftime
[05:33] <wasteoftime> will u please let me get oneiric advise here i am banned from everywhere
[05:33] <Dulak> You'd think the name was enough of a clue, but he's not even subtle about it.
[05:34] <tr0n> no
[05:34] <tr0n> haha
[07:08] <Krasik> hello
[07:08] <Krasik> I am having an ATI issue
[07:09] <Krasik> anyone here willing to help me work on an ATI Xpress 1150 issue?
[07:09] <Num83rGuy> Copy / paste it from the other channel
[07:09] <Krasik> the issue is it'snot installing properly
[07:09] <Krasik> I'm having problems installing the appropriate driver
[07:10] <Krasik> Under System Details, it shows Graphics as Unknown
[07:13] <Num83rGuy> Have you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[07:14] <Krasik> I will read that, thanks!
[07:15] <Num83rGuy> Krasik I am not sure if it will help I'm an nvidia guy my self.
[07:15] <Krasik> me too
[07:15] <Krasik> can't help my lappy came with ATI and I want Linux ha
[07:15] <Num83rGuy> Aye.
[07:20] <anthropos> is anyone else experiencing an issue in 12.04 whereby seahorse won't save any passwords (manually added) in a keyring
[07:22] <Krasik> :)
[07:22] <curiousx> =)
[07:22] <Krasik> I will have to restart to get bak in linux
[07:22] <Krasik> and dl XChat for linux
[07:22] <curiousx> ok
[07:22] <Krasik> loading 11.10 on usb just incase I want to downgrade
[07:23] <Krasik> so, I'll swap over when that is finished, should be in the next minute or so
[07:23] <curiousx> ok
[07:23] <Krasik> I do like 12.04 so I hope I can get that to work properly
[07:23] <Krasik> at least I can get full resolution
[07:24] <curiousx> ye
[07:24] <Krasik> okay, I'll be back in linux
[07:24] <curiousx> there is no problem
[07:25] <curiousx> give me a minute
[07:35] <curiousx> where were we ? =P
[07:35] <curiousx> so here we are xD
[07:36] <Krasik> hi
[07:36] <Krasik> okay, I'm back
[07:36] <Krasik> in Linux
[07:36] <curiousx> ye with 12.04?
[07:36] <Krasik> yes
[07:36] <curiousx> did you downloaded the driver?
[07:37] <Krasik> yes
[07:37] <Krasik> jsut finished
[07:37] <Krasik> haven't tried installing just yet
[07:37] <curiousx> Krasik: sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++6 dkms libqtgui4 wget execstack libelfg0
[07:38] <Krasik> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done debconf is already the newest version. dkms is already the newest version. dkms set to manually installed. fakeroot is already the newest version. fakeroot set to manually installed. libqtgui4 is already the newest version. libstdc++6 is already the newest version. wget is already the newest version. You might want to run 'apt-get -f ins
[07:38] <Krasik> where does it download to trom the terminal
[07:39] <curiousx> nowhere
[07:39] <Krasik> okay, so how do I run it
[07:39] <Krasik> after I wget'ed it
[07:40] <curiousx> Krasik: uname -a
[07:40] <Krasik> uname -a
[07:40] <Krasik> what?
[07:40] <curiousx> in the terminal type: uname -a
[07:40] <Krasik> okay, I did
[07:40] <curiousx> paste it
[07:40] <Krasik> Linux ArtofKrasik2 3.2.0-20-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 27 16:42:26 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:40] <Krasik> I am running 64 bit
[07:41] <curiousx> Krasik: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[07:41] <Krasik> so, that could be part of my issue, and that Precise isn't support
[07:41] <curiousx> could be
[07:41] <Krasik> Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch  xserver-xorg-core : Breaks: xserver-xorg-video-6 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[07:41] <Krasik> I've tried the apt-get -f install
[07:42] <Krasik> lots of failed dependencies
[07:42] <curiousx> oh! i forgot apt said you run 'apt-get -f install'
[07:42] <curiousx> so: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:42] <Krasik> tried that several times
[07:42] <curiousx> if ask for somthing just hit "Y"
[07:43] <Krasik> krasik@ArtofKrasik2:~$ sudo apt-get install -f Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   libc6-i386 lib32gcc1 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed:   xserver-xorg-video-ati The following packages will be upgraded:
[07:43] <Krasik> yes, I did
[07:43] <jussi> is it possible to change the style of what is presented when pressing alt-tab?
[07:43] <Krasik> The following packages will be upgraded:   xserver-xorg-video-ati 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0 B/7,408 B of archives. After this operation, 237 kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xserver-xorg-video-ati:  xserver-xorg-core (2:1.11.4-0ubuntu7) breaks xserver-xorg-video-6 and i
[07:44] <curiousx> jussi: ye with compiz-config-setting-manager
[07:44] <jussi> curiousx: right, let me go have a look :)
[07:45] <curiousx> Krasik: use http://paste.ubuntu.com for large paste
[07:45] <Krasik> also Curiousx, my package system is broken
[07:45] <curiousx> i know
[07:45] <Krasik> okay, thanks
[07:45] <curiousx> Krasik: have you aptitude installed ?
[07:46] <Krasik> not sure
[07:46] <Krasik> no
[07:46] <Krasik> and missing dependencies
[07:46] <Krasik> I thought apt-get would dlownload the required dependencies
[07:46] <Krasik> unluess, my package system is broken
[07:47] <curiousx> i dont think that might possible install it but, sudo apt-get install aptitude
[07:47] <jussi> Krasik: try running sudo apt-get update
[07:47] <Krasik> I have
[07:47] <Krasik> no avail
[07:47] <jussi> then the apt-get install -f
[07:47] <Krasik> I disabled the ppa repositories
[07:48] <Krasik> earlier hoping that owuld fix my package system, nope
[07:48] <jussi> Krasik: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:48] <curiousx> that will ask a lot of things
[07:49] <curiousx> Krasik: wich PPA you disabled it ?
[07:49] <Krasik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/903487/
[07:49] <Krasik> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xserver-xorg-video-ati:  xserver-xorg-core (2:1.11.4-0ubuntu7) breaks xserver-xorg-video-6 and is installed.   xserver-xorg-video-ati (1:6.13.99+git20100903.2b98ec1f-0ubuntu0tormod) provides xserver-xorg-video-6. dpkg: error processing xserver-xorg-video-ati (--configure):  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing:  xserver-xorg-video-ati
[07:50] <Krasik> can't seem to repair my package catalog
[07:50] <curiousx> Krasik: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[07:51] <Krasik> he following packages have unmet dependencies:  xserver-xorg-core : Breaks: xserver-xorg-video-6 E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[07:51] <Krasik> all comes down to that xserver-xorg-core
[07:52] <curiousx> Krasik: sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev* xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:52] <BlakJak> Krasik: what source are yo uusing
[07:53] <BlakJak> use the 'main source'... when I installed my xubuntu 12.04b1 using a local source I suffered from out of date source screwing wwith stuff
[07:53] <BlakJak> just chcking - coz your problem looks a little similar to what i had
[07:53] <Krasik> hmm
[07:53] <curiousx> Krasik: sudo software-properties-gtk
[07:53] <Krasik> that didn't help
[07:53] <Krasik> curiousx
[07:53] <Krasik> okay
[07:54] <curiousx> and see set "main source"
[07:54] <BlakJak> Krasik: not sure who 'that didn't help' was directed at... once you've set the main source you need to run apt-get update from a shell
[07:54] <BlakJak> with sudo, of course
[07:54] <Krasik> I din't see main sourcfe
[07:55] <Krasik> nvm
[07:55] <BlakJak> curiousx: sorry i dont mean to get in the way
[07:55] <Krasik> okay
[07:55] <Krasik> so I think I'm getting somewhere
[07:55] <curiousx> where say "Download from" you have to set "main server"
[07:55] <Krasik> btw, thanks for your help guys, really
[07:55] <Krasik> yeah, it was on server for United States
[07:56] <Krasik> then disabled all under other sources
[07:56] <Krasik> now what? lol
[07:56] <curiousx> its ok BlakJak
[07:56] <BlakJak> Krasik: so have you set main server instead of 'server from US' ?
[07:56] <Krasik> yes
[07:56] <BlakJak> ok, having done so, run apt-get update
[07:56] <BlakJak> ?
[07:57] <BlakJak> then run apt-get upgrade
[07:57] <Krasik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/903492/
[07:57] <Krasik> okay
[07:57] <Krasik> nothing to be upgraded
[07:57] <BlakJak> ok.. 'twas worth a shot.. i'll shut up now :)
[07:57] <Krasik> lol, thanks anyway! :)
[07:58] <Krasik> I turn away no help
[07:58] <BlakJak> (have found it helps to run off the main server when running the beta)
[07:58] <Krasik> gotcha
[07:58] <BlakJak> I have another problem... bugs with the panel in xubuntu
[07:59] <Krasik> now, how do I install this bad bow
[07:59] <Krasik> boy
[07:59] <Krasik> well, not really, crappy card
[07:59] <curiousx> Krasik: lets try another, sudo apt-get -f install
[08:00] <Krasik> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   libc6-i386 lib32gcc1 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:00] <Krasik> I also have synaptic, but not running
[08:00] <curiousx> Krasik: sudo apt-get autoremove
[08:00] <curiousx> ok
[08:00] <Krasik> okay
[08:00] <Krasik> removed
[08:01] <curiousx> Krasik: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[08:02] <Krasik> krasik@ArtofKrasik2:~$ sudo apt-get install ia32-libs Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package ia32-libs is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'ia32-libs' has no installation candidate
[08:03] <curiousx> well seems like we dont have 32 libs on precise =P
[08:03] <Krasik> heh
[08:04] <curiousx> lets try another way to install it
[08:04] <Krasik> okay
[08:04] <BlakJak> sec
[08:04] <Krasik> I'm up for any suggestions
[08:04] <curiousx> so... chmod u+x amd-driver-installer-12-2-x86.x86_64.run
[08:05] <Krasik> okay
[08:05] <anthropos> you tried building the .deb with --buildpkg right?
[08:05] <curiousx> i mean paste: ls
[08:05] <curiousx> yep that what i wanted to do
[08:05] <anthropos> sounds good, just be sure not to run the installer directly
[08:05] <BlakJak> markf@hawkeye:~$ dpkg -l ia32-libs
[08:05] <BlakJak> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[08:05] <BlakJak> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[08:05] <BlakJak> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[08:05] <BlakJak> ||/ Name                        Version                     Description
[08:05] <BlakJak> +++-[08:05] <anthropos> building the package is def the way to go
[08:05] <curiousx> but right now i try another way
[08:05] <BlakJak> ii  ia32-libs                   20090808ubuntu35            ia32 shared libraries - transitional package
[08:05] <Krasik> okay
[08:05] <BlakJak> it's definately in the repo...
[08:06] <Krasik> so after chmod in terminal,
[08:06] <anthropos> if you get fglrx installed through ati's thing you have to be carefult to totally purge it before reinstalling a different verison
[08:06] <Krasik> I don't think I have fglrx as I purged it earlier
[08:06] <curiousx> oh!
[08:06] <Krasik> which thanks to curiousx, I'm oh my way
[08:06] <curiousx> Krasik: do: sudo apt-get update
[08:07] <curiousx> then ia32libs have tobe in repos
[08:07] <curiousx> BlakJak: got it
[08:07] <BlakJak> thought he'd done that already :\
[08:07] <curiousx> me too
[08:08] <Krasik> doing itnow
[08:08] <Krasik> installing
[08:08] <Krasik> re-ran sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[08:08] <curiousx> what you are installing ? did you run the installer ?
[08:08] <Krasik> now it's getting all the dependencies
[08:08] <curiousx> ah! ok
[08:08] <curiousx> ok ok
[08:08] <curiousx> so now you have ia32-libs?
[08:09] <Krasik> soon
[08:09] <BlakJak> yay... progress
[08:09] <Krasik> still gettin
[08:09] <Krasik> indeed
[08:09] <curiousx> ok
[08:10] <curiousx> so... paste: ls
[08:10] <curiousx> i mean where do you have the ATI installer ?
[08:10] <Krasik> what does that mean
[08:10] <Krasik> the one we dl'ed through the terminal? no idea where it saved to
[08:10] <curiousx> give what you have in a specific directory
[08:10] <Krasik> I do have a 9.3 catalyst
[08:10] <curiousx> ok
[08:11] <curiousx> type: ls
[08:11] <curiousx> and paste the ouput
[08:11] <Krasik> ls
[08:11] <curiousx> ye
[08:11] <Krasik> 1s
[08:11] <curiousx> LS lowercase
[08:11] <Krasik> ls
[08:11] <Krasik> where
[08:11] <curiousx> ye
[08:11] <Krasik> do I type this
[08:11] <Krasik> lol
[08:11] <curiousx> just type it
[08:11] <Krasik> ls
[08:11] <Krasik> I did
[08:11] <curiousx> paste the ouptu
[08:12] <Krasik> I have no output
[08:12] <curiousx> in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:12] <Krasik> do you mean in terminal?
[08:12] <curiousx> well open a terminal do you know what is a terminal
[08:12] <Krasik> k
[08:12] <curiousx> ?
[08:12] <Krasik> yes, I've used linux in the past
[08:12] <Krasik> OpenSuSE
[08:12] <Krasik> pasting
[08:12] <curiousx> ok
[08:13] <Krasik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/903513/
[08:14] <Krasik> still installing the libs
[08:14] <curiousx> well... copy and paste in the same terminal: chmod u+x amd-driver-installer-12-2-x86.x86_64.run
[08:15] <Krasik> done
[08:15] <Krasik> okay
[08:15] <Krasik> libs are done
[08:16] <curiousx> now: sudo sh amd-driver-installer-12-2-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise
[08:17] <Krasik> cool, it's downloading this time
[08:17] <curiousx> whats?
[08:17] <Krasik> I believe prereqs
[08:18] <Krasik> now it's getting more
[08:18] <Krasik> although, there's a error
[08:18] <Krasik> Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 97.
[08:18] <Krasik> but hasn;t halted anything yet
[08:19] <Krasik> now it says continuing to build package
[08:19] <curiousx> well whatever, paste: ls
[08:19] <curiousx> ok wait
[08:19] <Krasik> continuing package build
[08:19] <curiousx> wait for that to finish its works
[08:20] <anthropos> those errors are a dime a dozen...
[08:21] <Krasik> it shows blinking cursor and I can type but I'm not at a hash
[08:21] <Krasik> just simply below the words continuing package uild
[08:21] <anthropos> it's working
[08:22] <Krasik> sweet
[08:22] <Krasik> taking quite a while
[08:22] <Krasik> but that's cool
[08:22] <Volkodav> anybody filed the bug on xfce-xkb not saving the layout option over reboot ?
[08:23] <Krasik> damnit!
[08:23] <Krasik> nvm
[08:23] <Krasik> jumped the gun
[08:23] <Krasik> ha
[08:23] <Krasik> now I have a .deb
[08:24] <curiousx> paste: ls
[08:24] <anthropos> sudo dpkg -i <file>
[08:24] <curiousx> nop
[08:24] <curiousx> you should have more than one .deb
[08:24] <anthropos> i think it makes three
[08:24] <Krasik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/903533/
[08:24] <curiousx> ye
[08:24] <Krasik> yes
[08:24] <Krasik> it did
[08:25] <anthropos> then that is the expected behavior, so far so good
[08:25] <Krasik> yay
[08:25] <curiousx> now: sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb
[08:25] <anthropos> be careful you don't have other versions lying around if you do that
[08:25] <curiousx> he dont have
[08:25] <curiousx> we unistall it
[08:25] <Krasik> errors
[08:25] <curiousx> deamn
[08:26] <Krasik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/903534/
[08:26] <anthropos> it sucks that fglrx depends on all these 32 bit libs
[08:26] <Krasik> indeed
[08:26] <anthropos> you did get the 64 bit ver right?
[08:27] <Krasik> yes
[08:27] <curiousx> ye its ok lets try one thing
[08:27] <anthropos> just checking
[08:27] <Krasik> k
[08:28] <curiousx> first wa have to uninstall those .deb wait a second
[08:28] <Krasik> k
[08:29] <curiousx> try this: sudo ddpkg -r fglrx_8.950
[08:29] <curiousx> tell me if it works
[08:29] <Krasik> dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching fglrx_8.950
[08:30] <Krasik> I noticed in synaptic that fglrx needs upgraded
[08:30] <Krasik> or you can mark for ugprade
[08:30] <Krasik> it is listed under Broken for custom filters
[08:30] <curiousx> ok, so: sudo dpkg -r fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-amdcccle
[08:30] <curiousx> this will do the trick =P
[08:31] <Krasik> it is doing stuff
[08:31] <Krasik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/903541/
[08:33] <curiousx> now: sudo apt-get install lib32gcc1 libc6-i386
[08:33] <curiousx> hope you can install them
[08:34] <Krasik> initailly no, doing a sudo apt-get iinstall -ef
[08:34] <Krasik> f
[08:34] <Krasik> -f
[08:34] <Krasik> it's now fixing itself Ithink
[08:34] <Krasik> not sure
[08:34] <Krasik> it says setting up lib32gcc1
[08:34] <Krasik> so perhaps so
[08:35] <curiousx> ye
[08:35] <curiousx> and libc6-i386?
[08:35] <Krasik> yes
[08:35] <Krasik> DKMS: install completed. update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated) Processing triggers for bamfdaemon ... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.index... Setting up fglrx-dev (2:8.950-0ubuntu1) ... Setting up fglrx-amdcccle (2:8.960-0ubuntu1) ... Processing triggers for libc-bin ... ldconfig deferred processing now taking place Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ... update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3
[08:36] <Krasik> okay
[08:36] <Krasik> so
[08:36] <curiousx> so let do on thing: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[08:36] <curiousx> one*
[08:37] <Krasik> I believe it's wokring
[08:37] <curiousx> ok
[08:37] <Krasik> yes
[08:37] <Krasik> dio e
[08:37] <Krasik> done
[08:37] <curiousx> paste: aptitude search lib32gcc1 libc6-i386
[08:38] <Krasik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/903547/
[08:39] <curiousx> now: sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb
[08:39] <curiousx> and everything will be ok
[08:39] <Krasik> I think so
[08:39] <Krasik> dpkg: warning: downgrading fglrx from 2:8.960-0ubuntu1 to 2:8.950-0ubuntu1.
[08:40] <Krasik> it's working
[08:40] <curiousx> ye
[08:40] <Krasik> thansk again
[08:40] <curiousx> i know trust me everything will be ok
[08:40] <curiousx> tell when it fhish its works
[08:40] <curiousx> tell me*
[08:40] <Krasik> sure will
[08:41] <Krasik> k
[08:41] <Krasik> done
[08:41] <Krasik> brb
[08:41] <curiousx> wait
[08:41] <curiousx> where you going?
[08:41] <curiousx> now: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[08:41] <Krasik> back
[08:41] <Krasik> no such file or directory
[08:42] <curiousx> doesnt matter, finally: sudo aticonfig --initial -f
[08:42] <Krasik> I don't think 12.04 uses xorg.conf
[08:42] <curiousx> then reboot
[08:42] <Krasik> aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[08:42] <Krasik> but shoudl I reboot now, despite that?
[08:42] <curiousx> ok reboot
[08:42] <Krasik> k
[08:47] <Krasik_> hi
[08:47] <Krasik_> okay, back
[08:47] <Krasik_> lost my resolution though
[08:47] <Krasik_> graphics show VESA
[08:47] <Krasik_> which I think is better than Unknown lol
[08:48] <curiousx> bad luck i dont know whats can we do
[08:48] <Krasik_> damn
[08:48] <Krasik_> okay
[08:48] <Krasik_> may have to downgrade to 11.10
[08:49] <curiousx> lspci
[08:49] <Krasik_> pretty sure the stock drivers work
[08:49] <curiousx> ye ill do that
[08:49] <curiousx> yep
[08:49] <curiousx> i installed 12.2 in more than one PC but not in Precise
[08:49] <curiousx> i installed it on 11.10
[08:50] <Krasik_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/903558/
[08:50] <curiousx> i mean what is the ATI graphic card do you have?
[08:50] <Krasik_> it's cool, I've already set up the USB for 11.10
[08:50] <Krasik_> ATI Xpress 1150
[08:50] <Krasik_> ATI Radeon Xpress 1150
[08:51] <curiousx> an old ati
[08:51] <curiousx> well try whit Oneric
[08:51] <Krasik_> well, doing a sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:52] <curiousx> with
[08:52] <Krasik_> got 72 uprades
[08:53] <Krasik_> I think I'll just go with oneric
[08:53] <Krasik_> whicn is 11.10 right?
[08:53] <curiousx> but this message "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected" tells that maybe 12.2 doesnt support 1150 maybe an older driver will support it
[08:53] <Krasik_> perhaps
[08:54] <anthropos> try using the driver picker on their website
[08:54] <Krasik_> I did
[08:54] <Krasik_> no linux
[08:54] <Krasik_> download
[08:54] <Krasik_> but I read somewhere that the xpress 1150 is very similar to the x300
[08:54] <anthropos> so it wouldn't let you specify linux as an os?
[08:54] <Krasik_> I dl'ed those drivers
[08:54] <Krasik_> no avail
[08:54] <Krasik_> not for the 1150 no
[08:54] <anthropos> check online and see if anyone else has their xpress 1150 working in linux
[08:54] <anthropos> with fglrx
[08:54] <curiousx> goo idea
[08:55] <anthropos> it may be a lost cause, or there may be some trick
[08:55] <Krasik_> if the upgrades I'm dong currently do not work
[08:55] <Krasik_> I'm downgrading in hopes it works in 11.10
[08:55] <anthropos> check online
[08:55] <anthropos> first
[08:57] <Krasik_> be back, rebooting
[09:00] <Krasik> back
[09:01] <curiousx> now with ubuntu 11.10 ?
[09:01] <Krasik> haha
[09:01] <Krasik> no
[09:01] <Krasik> just checked to see of the upgrades did anything
[09:01] <Krasik> nope
[09:01] <Krasik> still on VESA
[09:09] <curiousx> well... cya
[09:31] <kyoushuu> Is it possible to ask for a package to be updated to a newer version?
[09:33] <bazhang> kyoushuu, which package
[09:33] <kyoushuu> zlib
[09:33] <bazhang> !info zlib
[09:33] <kyoushuu> it's very old now (current one is from 2005)
[09:34] <kyoushuu> zlib1g
[09:34] <bazhang> !info zlib1g
[09:34] <bazhang> which do you need
[09:34] <njin> hello, who manage unmounting device during shutdown ?
[09:35] <kyoushuu> I need a newer version, the latest one is 1.2.6 (January 29, 2012)
[09:35] <kyoushuu> it is required by some of the programs I need to compile
[09:35] <bazhang> kyoushuu, to fix some issue?
[09:35] <kyoushuu> one of them is gwaei
[09:36] <kyoushuu> yes, it won't compile, it is missing gzoffset
[09:36] <kyoushuu> it is in 1.2.4
[09:36] <bazhang> !info gwaei
[09:37] <kyoushuu> the current version of gwaei upstream is 3.4.1, which requires gzoffset
[09:37] <bazhang> something wrong with the repos version?
[09:37] <kyoushuu> an upstream version needs the newer zlib
[09:38] <bazhang> understood, but is there an issue with the repos version?
[09:39] <kyoushuu> I don't have any other than that missing function
[09:41] <bazhang> kyoushuu, sorry, which missing function in the repos version?
[09:42] <kyoushuu> the repos version doesn't have gzoffset, which is added in 1.2.4
[09:42] <bazhang> and what does gzoffset offer
[09:48] <kyoushuu> it is needed by an upstream version of gwaei (3.4.1), that I want to compile
[10:01] <bazhang> kyoushuu, ok, well not sure what gzoffset offers exactly, and normally I'd say check for a PPA or backports/proposed, but I really doubt something like zlib1g would fit into that
[10:15] <kyoushuu> is that so..., I'll try to look for some alternatives then
[10:16] <bazhang> if you were to say what gzoffset offered exactly, I could suggest some alternatives...
[10:38] <kyoushuu> I actually don't know what it is, but I think it's for compressing using deflate, it's actually just an additional function added to zlib for compatibility for some library. Though it seems like it really needs to be with zlib, since gwaei uses its header and other functions in zlib are used by gwaei.
[10:46] <jo-erlend> hey... The activity logger privacy settings has disappeared from System Settings?
[10:46] <jo-erlend> It's coming back, yes?
[10:47] <aamir_> Hi, I need help on changing the user group in 12.04. Using VirtualBox and need to add my self under vboxusers
[10:48] <jo-erlend> aamir_, I don't know any way of doing that in the GUI anymore. But it's easy: open a terminal and enter "sudo adduser username groupname"
[10:48] <jo-erlend> so; sudo adduser aamir vboxusers
[10:48] <aamir_> thanks
[10:49] <aamir_> its done
[10:49] <aamir_> Thanks a lot
[11:13] <jo-erlend_> when I maximize a window, it's maximized on the wrong screen. Is this a known bug?
[11:13] <jo-erlend_> it's extremely annoying.
[11:23] <jokerdino> jo-erlend_: i still have the activity log manager in my system settings here..
[11:23] <jo-erlend_> jokerdino, you do, huh? It's called "Privacy" or is it somewhere else?
[11:24] <jokerdino> privacy it is
[11:24] <jo-erlend_> hmm. I don't have it.
[11:24] <jokerdino> check if you have activity-log-manager-control-center installed
[11:38] <SlimG> My Lenovo X121e freeze up immediately after I hit "next" on the ubiquity where I setup my login, same thing happens on every dailo .iso I've tried the last 3 weeks
[11:39] <SlimG> I tried "tail -f /var/log/syslog" in the background, but it freezes immediately, and give no output before freezing
[11:40] <SlimG> I've replaced the HDD with a Kingston SSD, and updated to the latest BIOS/EFI firmware
[11:41] <SlimG> I've tried unencrypted and encrypted home, still crashes
[11:41] <SlimG> s/crashes/freezes/
[11:46] <scriptwarlock> SlimG, while you are using only as live no freezes?
[13:01] <gnufs> Hi people
[13:01] <gnufs> I'm on 12.04, my first post-Unity Ubuntu install, and I can't seem to figure something out
[13:01] <gnufs> How can I increase the number of workspaces?
[13:01] <gnufs> I have tried changing /apps/metacity/general/num_workspaces to 6 in gconf-editor, but it didn't make any change (even after a reboot)
[13:01] <jokerdino> gnufs: that one changes for unity-2d, not unity
[13:01] <gnufs> mkay
[13:01] <gnufs> makes sense
[13:02] <gnufs> any idea on how to change it on unity?
[13:02] <jokerdino> you can use myunity to change it.
[13:02] <jokerdino> myunity > desktop
[13:02] <gnufs> holy moly, it's really there!
[13:02] <gnufs> thanks!
[13:02] <jokerdino> gnufs: hang on.
[13:03] <gnufs> it works, beautifully
[13:03] <jokerdino> ok, i was just going to point out that you can do it in gconf-editor as well
[13:04] <jokerdino> anyway, have fun in 12.04
[13:04] <scriptwarlock> jokerdino, compizdonfig has that settings if i'm not mistaken
[13:04] <jokerdino> scriptwarlock: it does too.
[13:04] <jokerdino> but, i don't prefer suggesting ccsm if there is a better alternative.
[13:05] <gnufs> thanks, i am. i was expecting to hate unity after reading all the rants about it, and I kinda did my first week with it (i installed on alpha2 release)
[13:05] <gnufs> but now i quite like it :)
[13:05] <scriptwarlock> don't hate see this teaser... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDCxAx1kLPw&feature=player_embedded
[13:40] <mateo__> Hello
[13:41] <mateo__> how can I configure the launcher to wiggle until I attend the event?
[13:44] <ironhalik> mateo__: yeah, in CCSM if I recall correctly
[13:44] <mateo__> ironhalik, unity plugin?
[13:44] <ironhalik> yup
[13:45] <mateo__> I can't see it :D
[13:46] <ironhalik> hmm, indeed :>
[13:46] <mateo__> could you provide the string to search?
[13:46] <ironhalik> something with 'urgent'
[13:46] <ironhalik> but not sure if you can change for how long should it wiggle :)
[13:47] <mateo__> I can only change the urgent animation
[13:48] <ironhalik> yeah, its quite possible its all you can do there
[13:48] <ironhalik> sorry
[13:49] <mateo__> mmm
[13:49] <mateo__> that's unconvinient
[13:49] <mateo__> I don't want to miss emails or chats from work
[13:50] <ironhalik> hmm, the messeging applet should turn blue when there are pending emails in thunderbird
[13:50] <ironhalik> or IMs in pidgin/empathy
[13:51] <mateo__> yeah, you are possibly right, I'm talking about xchat
[13:52] <ironhalik> https://launchpad.net/xchat-indicator
[13:52] <ironhalik> you could try that
[13:52] <ironhalik> AFAIK, they managed to script and integrate irssi into the indicator :)
[13:52] <ironhalik> so xchat should work too ;>
[13:52] <mateo__> ah
[13:52] <mateo__> lot of thanks
[14:26] <loganville> quick question, I'm having issues with the visual alert full screen flash in 12.04, could you tell me where to look for logs?
[14:27] <loganville> I checked launchpad but wasn't able to find a bug report, so I'm not sure if I should create one or not since I don't have any logs
[14:33] <sddhrthrt> Is it possible to have wobbly windows in 12.04 yet?
[14:33] <glosoli> it is
[14:33] <glosoli> why you ask
[14:34] <sddhrthrt> unity didnt support it in 11.10
[14:34] <sddhrthrt> or 11.04
[14:34] <sddhrthrt> unity crashed
[14:34] <glosoli> support afaik
[14:34] <sddhrthrt> ah. ok.
 hello, why can't I connect to any encrypted wireless network on lubuntu 12.04? I can't even click on any of them
 the guys over at lubuntu are sleeping
[14:44] <bazhang> this is the right channel, not #lubuntu
[14:46] <ix_> so is 12.04 going well?
[14:46] <bazhang> first have you set the ap using ifconfig iwconfig
[14:46] <pyr0> make sure you have the newest drivers first.
[14:47] <ix_> I've used Linux distros since 2006
[14:47] <ix_> I am connected to an unencrypted network
[14:47] <ix_> so my wireless card works
[14:47] <pyr0> I have a linksys usb newegg special that could 'see' wireless networks but not associate
[14:47] <bazhang> so this should be a cinch
[14:47] <pyr0> I had to compile the driver to get wpa2 supported
[14:48] <sddhrthrt> Hey guys I just created an adhoc network, with a passkey or without, but it doesnt  connect to itselF!
[14:48] <sddhrthrt> Is it related to the problme ix_ is talking ambout?
[14:48] <ix_> I don't think so
[14:48] <loganville> any ideas about what to do about the visual alert/bell?
[14:48] <ix_> anyway, I could install wicd, just to check if everything is ok with the driver
[14:48] <ix_> but I'm pretty sure it will go fine
[14:48] <sddhrthrt> and bazhang What is setting the ap in ifconfig/iwconfig?
[14:49] <bazhang> sddhrthrt, why would you want it to connect to itself
[14:49] <sddhrthrt> bazhang: because after you create an adhoc network, you haveto connect to it first, before others can use it, right?
[14:50] <bazhang> sddhrthrt, you mean an extender?
[14:50] <sddhrthrt> Yeah, kinda. I have ethernet, and i want my roomie to share the conection. So, i create a wireless network and he connects to it.
[14:51] <sddhrthrt> We used to do this in 10.04, it was pretty sttarigtforward. trayicon>create a new wireless network>configure it>connect to it
[14:51] <sddhrthrt> now he could see it
[14:51] <bazhang> ics?
[14:51] <nabukadnezar43> anyone knows how to add "create launcher" in the right context menu?
[14:52] <nabukadnezar43> i am using gnome classic with gnome panel
[14:52] <sddhrthrt> but in Ubuntu 12.04, it says connecting to 'adhoc'... then it doesnt connect.. wireless network disconnected!
[14:52] <maximilius> hello. where would i lookup information regarding bugs of compiz?
[14:54] <ix__> ok, so wicd works with encrypted wifi
[14:54] <sddhrthrt> what say, bazhang ?
[14:54] <ix__> network manager does not
[14:55] <bazhang> !ics | sddhrthrt this?
[14:56] <sddhrthrt> Nah, i already did that with 10.04. Anyway, tell me why this doesnt work in 12.04:
[14:56] <sddhrthrt> trayicon for networkmanager>create a new wireless network > networkname=blah, encryption=wep 128bit, password=passw>create
[14:57] <sddhrthrt> it says connecting, the ) )) )))) thing comes for some time.. then it says disconnected.
[15:00] <sddhrthrt> ugh. this is irritating.
[15:01] <sddhrthrt> Someone tell me, why can i not create a wireless network with network-manager?
[15:04] <pyr0> is your wireless interface up?
[15:07] <sddhrthrt> pyr0: wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any
[15:07] <sddhrthrt> from iwconfig
[15:07] <sddhrthrt> which other line?
[15:07] <pyr0> ifconfig wlan0:  Does it say "UP"
[15:08] <pyr0> if not try: ifconfig wlan0 up
[15:08] <sddhrthrt> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 68:a3:c4:28:e5:96   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[15:08] <sddhrthrt> there's no up :/
[15:09] <pyr0> yes there is
[15:09] <sddhrthrt> ok.. yeah
[15:09] <pyr0> UP BROADCAST .....
[15:09] <sddhrthrt> so?
[15:09] <sddhrthrt> se what i said?
[15:09] <sddhrthrt> trayicon for networkmanager>create a new wireless network > networkname=blah, encryption=wep 128bit, password=passw>create
[15:09] <sddhrthrt> it says connecting, the ) )) )))) thing comes for some time.. then it says disconnected.
[15:10] <pyr0> so unless it's a linksys AE1000 I'm not sure I can do much more... I did have the same problem but the fix was specific to my usb wireless adapter
[15:11] <sddhrthrt> pyr0: what direction does the fix go? what *may* i need to do?
[15:14] <pyr0> I had to compile an older version of the driver specific to my wireless card, I'd start by checking the ubuntu "additional drivers" in system settings and then the manufacturer's website if ubuntu doesn't give you the option to use a different driver
[15:15] <pyr0> just because you can see the NIC as a device, doens't mean it's working properly. I also could see if in ifconfig and iwconfig but I couldn't associate to a wireless network. It'd even scan for networks but wouldn't associate
[15:16] <pyr0> *could see my wireless card in if/iwconfig
[15:17] <sddhrthrt> ah. now i see something.. yes, ofcourse, in Additional Drivers, my Breadcom STA wireless driver is isntalled. But, if what you said is right, it just doesnt work. Should i waint for Ubuntu final release for ann updated driver?
[15:17] <pyr0> what make/model of wireless card do you have?
[15:18] <sddhrthrt> broadcom
[15:18] <pyr0> do you know the model?
[15:18] <sddhrthrt> model: where do i check, again?
[15:18] <sddhrthrt> command?
[15:18] <notify> haha
[15:18] <bazhang> lspci
[15:18] <pyr0> lspci (card) or lsusb  (usb)
[15:18] <sddhrthrt> they skip my tiny head :P
[15:19] <sddhrthrt> breadcom BCM4313
[15:19] <sddhrthrt> *broadcom BCM4313
[15:19] <bazhang> doubt it
[15:19] <sddhrthrt> why? bazhang
[15:19] <bazhang> I'd guess you are not setting it up correctly over there being a driver issue sddhrthrt
[15:20] <sddhrthrt> eh.. you're not clear
[15:20] <sddhrthrt> what is there to set up?
[15:21] <sddhrthrt> it worked without any special *setting up* in ubuntu 10.04. Even here, i had installed broadcom STA drivers from additional drivers
[15:21] <pyr0> sddhrthrt, read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/12355/how-do-i-get-my-broadcom-bcm4313-working-correctly
[15:21] <bazhang> you've made sure the driver is properly  installed, associated with the ap, checked the correct mode, brought the device down then up all of those sddhrthrt ?
[15:21] <pyr0> check out the stuff on blacklisting the drivers that don't work
 pyr0: wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any
[15:22] <bazhang> thats NOT associated sddhrthrt
[15:22] <pyr0> I also had to do that with mine so it didn't detect the card and use the new (but broken) driver
[15:23] <notify> new (but broken) ? surely all new stuff is better :)
[15:24] <bazhang> !regression
[15:24] <bazhang> sddhrthrt, is that sufficiently clear?
[15:24] <sddhrthrt> bazhang: Yes, but the *associated with the ap* thing is not yet clear
[15:25] <bazhang> sddhrthrt, what it means? or how to do it
[15:25] <sddhrthrt> pyr0: I should apologize for not searching google with my model number.
[15:25] <sddhrthrt> bazhang: both.
[15:25] <notify> sddhrthrt: choose an access point (ap) and put in the key
[15:25] <sddhrthrt> ah.
[15:25] <sddhrthrt> yes.
[15:26] <bazhang> associate means ifconfig will show the ap
[15:26] <sddhrthrt> see, i'm creating my own access point here. I'm creating my own ad-hoc wireless network. so, this is the sole problem - it doesnt connect itself to the ap i just created.
[15:26] <bazhang> as to how, check the wifi wiki
[15:26] <pyr0> notify, if only I could convince my wife...
[15:26] <bazhang> !wifi
[15:26] <bazhang> sddhrthrt, ^
[15:27] <sddhrthrt> yes, thanks bazhang . But the last step - it stays in connecting.. and then disconnects. I'm sure i've done all the steps - and its some other problem.
[15:27] <pyr0> bazhang, iwconfig will show the ap, ifconfig does not
[15:27] <bazhang> sddhrthrt, yet it's not associated
[15:28] <pyr0> if you're trying to use one wireless card as an ap and a client, I'm not sure that'll work, but you shouldn't need to use it as a client anyway
[15:28] <sddhrthrt> pyr0: isnt that the usual process?
[15:28] <sddhrthrt> how do you create a wireless network for others to join?
[15:28] <sddhrthrt> Create a wireless network, then connect yourself to it. Then, others can see it. right?
[15:29] <pyr0> I have no idea, i've never tried it
[15:29] <notify> buy a wireless router
[15:29] <pyr0> oooh
[15:29] <sddhrthrt> notify: thhis is for fun, what we are doing. we could pretty much live without it than buy a router :D
[15:30] <pyr0> yeah but I don't think you can connect to yourself, you should already be connected when you create it, it's the other wireless device that should be connecting
[15:30] <sddhrthrt> anyway, my comp needs a restart. I've uninstalled broadcom STA drivers that jockey suggested., as your link said. i'll try the next steps and come back.
[15:30] <notify> sddhrthrt: i see. maybe i'm in the wrong channel here, cos i thought it was for support for 12.04 and establishing whether bug reports need filing ...
[15:31] <pyr0> sddhrthrt, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint
[15:32] <pyr0> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+wireless+ap
[15:32] <bazhang> pyr0, dont use that here...
[15:35] <sddhrthrt> Yes, now that i'm done with uninstaling the STA drivers, i'm trying to instal
[15:35] <sddhrthrt> the other driver.
[15:47] <sddhrthrt> hey guys.
[15:47] <sddhrthrt> So, after some browsing, it turns out Broadcom BCM4313 is actually supported after the 2.6 kernel in ubuntu 11.10.
[15:48] <sddhrthrt> Now, any idea how to verify the same on my computer, because i just upgraded from ubuntu 10.04
[15:48] <sddhrthrt> so it *might* not have been enabled, too, right?
[15:48] <sddhrthrt> should i reinstall the kernel for this?
[15:50] <ironhalik> sddhrthrt: try manually loading b43 module
[15:50] <bibinou> hi
[15:50] <ironhalik> modprobe b43
[15:51] <bibinou> I updated compiz and now my virtual desktops config was resetted to defaults (a 2x2 square)
[15:51] <bibinou> how can I get my config back ?
[15:51] <bibinou> (i was using 1 row of 4 desktops)
[15:52] <ironhalik> bibinou: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34572/how-can-i-reduce-or-increase-the-number-of-workspaces-in-unity
[15:52] <ironhalik> not sure if you can recover the old config, but you can set it manually :)
[15:53] <bibinou> thank you
[15:53] <sddhrthrt> ok, now ironhalik , it worked, it started the module, but still the problem persists
[15:54] <sddhrthrt> I say create a new wireless network, it does, then stays idle for some time and then says Wireless Network - disconnected.
[15:54] <sddhrthrt> So, i cant understand what the freaking problem iS!!!!
[15:54] <ironhalik> chill out :) broadcom support under linux is kinda crappy
[15:55] <ironhalik> first, add b43 to /etc/modules
[15:55] <ironhalik> check dmesg for network logs
[15:56] <ironhalik> or try this command
[15:56] <ironhalik> grep -i networkmanager /var/log/syslog
[15:57] <ironhalik> after adding b43, try applying the microsft patch, rebooting the machine ;>
[15:58] <bluefrog> sddhrthrt, make sure you un-blacklist bcm43 in blacklist.conf
[15:59] <ironhalik> actually, bcm43 was replaced by b43 module
[15:59] <bluefrog> ok
[16:00] <ironhalik> so you should make sure bcm43xx is blacklisted so it wont get in conflict with b43
[16:01] <sddhrthrt> what s the microsoft patch you are talking baout, ironhalik
[16:01] <sddhrthrt> ?
[16:07] <sddhrthrt> pyr0: Hey, can you check if you have wpa-supplicant installed in your pc?
[16:08] <sddhrthrt> pyr0: That is , if you are using networkmanager for, well, managing network!
[16:08] <pyr0> wpa_supplicant yes
[16:09] <sddhrthrt> ah :)
[16:09] <sddhrthrt> so, what is this, anybody?
[16:10] <sddhrthrt> (wlan0): device state change: config -> failed (reason 'supplicant-timeout') [50 120 11]
[16:10] <sddhrthrt> eh? this is in my syslog..
[16:10] <sddhrthrt> when i tried to activate my wireless network
[16:13] <Jeruvy> sddhrthrt, the supplicant is the software that manages your wireless connection.  If it's timing out then it's not getting the responses in the correct time frame.  This could be due to stale connection information or something with the wifi, or software level interference (ie:firewalls, other connection managers..)
[16:14] <sddhrthrt> so, suggestions? Jeruvy ?
[16:14] <Jeruvy> sddhrthrt, remove any connection information.  Disable any firewall.  Ensure your wifi is a nice strong connection..
[16:14] <sddhrthrt> how do you remove any connection information?
[16:15] <sddhrthrt> there is no firewall.
[16:15] <sddhrthrt> i'm creating a new wireless network here, so there is no question about the sterngth=
[16:16] <Jeruvy> sddhrthrt, I'm not uptodate on wifi managers in 12.04, perhaps someone else can advise.
[16:19] <neyder_> Hi there
[16:41] <Will123456> hey guys. if i set my background to an image then save a new image in gimp to that same file path, my unity launcher flashes multiple colours for the duration of the saving period. in my head i'm imagining unity constantly reloading the image from the disk very inefficiently. am i barking up the wrong tree? what do you think is happening?
[16:41] <skyjumper> longshot maybe, but i just switched from mate to unity on precise, and now everything is noticeably more laggy
[16:42] <skyjumper> wondering if anyone would know what to check
[16:43] <Will123456> skyjumper: what's laggy and in what way? and what hardware are you running?
[16:45] <skyjumper> Will123456: thinkpad t61 with NVIDIA Corporation G84M [Quadro FX 570M] (rev a1)
[16:46] <skyjumper> the thing i notice most is switching tabs in firefox
[16:46] <skyjumper> but also switching workspaces in compiz
[16:46] <skyjumper> sometimes that's 100% smooth, sometimes it's really jerky
[16:47] <skyjumper> also i'm using the nvidia-current driver
[16:53] <agoodm> Hi all, I have a multi monitor related ui suggestion for 12.04
[16:53] <agoodm> if its welcome =)
[16:54] <skyjumper> the alt-tab menu has almost a full second delay before popping up
[16:58] <agoodm> skyjumper, not here...
[16:59] <skyjumper> similar hardware?
[16:59] <skyjumper> wonder if it would help if i made a video
[17:00] <agoodm> dunno this pc is a i7 920@4ghz with powerful graphics card
[17:00] <agoodm> nothing takes long :P
[17:01] <krasik> How goes it
[17:01] <agoodm> hi
[17:02] <krasik> so, I downgraded from 12.04 to 11.10 in hopes of fixing my ATI driver issue
[17:02] <krasik> nope ha
[17:02] <krasik> still no ATI driver shown in Graphics
[17:02] <skyjumper> simple compiz stuff shouldn't be laggy on a<EMAIL_ADDRESS>either
[17:03] <agoodm> with 12.04 on multiple monitors if a window is maximised but not focused; for example its maximised on the other monitor) is it possible to show the window controls close min/maximise buttons?  Currently I have to issue an extra click just to close the non focused window as the buttons dont show with hovering...
[17:04] <agoodm> hope this makes sense
[17:06] <krasik> lol
[17:08] <trism> agoodm: possibly related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/741603
[17:11] <agoodm> trism, not sure this is the same thing
[17:11] <agoodm> I wouldnt call it a bug just an annoyance...
[17:11] <agoodm> if Ive got two maximised windows and want to close the one on the right I have to first give the window focus so that hovering over the top bar gives me the window control buttons
[17:15] <trism> agoodm: I think the point is that there aren't any controls there for you to hover over, visible always or not
[17:15] <agoodm> interesting
[17:15] <trism> agoodm: as it happens, it seems that there may even been hidden controls there for the wrong window at the moment, bug 865701
[17:16] <agoodm> it would make sense for them to be there even if hidden till hovered over so I can close without additional clicks
[17:16] <agoodm> ive not managed to close the wrong window yet...
[17:17] <agoodm> once focus is provided the correct window controls do appear just a usability issue imo
[17:18] <agoodm> im impressed though with how far unity has came
[17:18] <agoodm> dont know if its technological improvements or improvements in my own skills but ive gone from omg cant use that when I first saw it to using it quite hapilly with a couple of gripes now
[17:22] <agoodm> one question... I am coming from using windows as a daily O/S to having a seperate lower power machine for daily stuff and a power guzzling quad core box for windows and primarilly gaming...
[17:23] <agoodm> all my files are mainly stored on a NAS box which is actually a linux server with a bunch of disks in raid 5, currently in ubuntu im accessing these via mounting the samba share but there must be a better way...
[17:23] <agoodm> I thought nfs but I cant see workable way of making that work atm...
[17:24] <agoodm> (I run an it services company supporting linux server installations at a bunch of businesses)
[17:36] <imnichol> anyone know of a GUI for gsettings?
[17:37] <trism> imnichol: since the settings are currently stored in dconf you can install dconf-tools and use dconf-editor
[17:40] <skyjumper> imnichol: gconf-editor?
[17:40] <skyjumper> oh dconf
[17:40] <imnichol> And where are the values stored in dconf?
[17:42] <trism> imnichol: where is the file? the user settings are in ~/.config/dconf/ but it isn't human readable
[17:43] <trism> imnichol: the schemas for gsettings are in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/
[17:43] <imnichol> Sorry, typed that in the wrong window
[17:45] <agoodm> to make a usb boot disk for 12.04 do I just dd the iso onto the flash pen as per debian?
[17:45] <jtaylor> agoodm: there is a program to do it, gtk-disk-creator I think
[17:45] <trism> agoodm: yes you can just dd the iso now if you'd like
[17:45] <jtaylor> just search for disk in the dash
[17:46] <agoodm> nice :)
[17:47] <agoodm> another ui suggestion you probably have already had for 12.04...
[17:48] <agoodm> when you hit super and start typing the name of an app it would be nice to have the first one kinda selected so you knew which one would open when you hit enter
[17:48] <agoodm> and so its obvious you dont need to hit down twice first...
[17:50] <trism> agoodm: not a bad idea, doesn't really help to make the suggestions here though, you could raise a bug on launchpad or discuss it on one of the mailing lists (there may even already be a bug if you search a bit)
[17:50] <spacebug-> hum unity (BAMF) lost track of my empathy window
[17:50] <agoodm> I get embarrased making suggestions on launchpad, I always feel stupid
[17:51] <trism> agoodm: you shouldn't, the worst that can happen is they will mark it invalid or won't fix, no big deal
[17:51] <agoodm> more I dont know how to word things clearly. bloody dyslexia
[17:54] <trism> agoodm: made sense to me
[17:57] <agoodm> I want my new laptop but the sender/courier sucked :(
[18:01] <spacebug-> strange. Both pidgin and empathy windows is no longer regognized by BAMF.
[18:01] <spacebug-> also all settings in CCSM was restored to default
[18:10] <agoodm> netbook might be lacking in the power dept
[18:10] <agoodm> install on my pc took about 3 minutes
[18:10] <agoodm> i think netbook is 15 minutes in and almost done now
[18:11] <maximilius> hello. where would i lookup information regarding bugs of compiz?
[18:15] <trism> maximilius: good place to start: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
[18:17] <maximilius> happy reviewing all that :)
[18:21] <maximilius> e.g. after i typed the password at the login screen the system wont switch to the user interface at all and just show a blank screen
[18:21] <maximilius> how do i make a bug report of that or search if one already exists?
[18:23] <trism> maximilius: do any of the sessions work? (if you click the ubuntu icon on the login screen and choose ubuntu 2d for instance)
[18:24] <maximilius> when i reboot 1-2 or 3 times it works again
[18:28] <sddhrthrt> hey!
[18:28] <sddhrthrt> what is dnsmasq?
[18:29] <sddhrthrt> does it run by default in a new Ubuntu setup?
[18:35] <mhall119> does anybody know if the LTS->LTS upgrade path is stable?
[18:35] <mhall119> my 8 year old keeps asking me when I can put Unity on his computer
[18:36] <Dulak> mhall119: I ran it without a hitch on my laptop.
[18:36] <ironhalik> mhall119: generally, you cant get any guarantees
[18:37] <Dulak> mhall119: ymmv of course but it was the smoothest LTS->LTS update I've had.  This is my fourth and the only one without any issues at all.
[18:37] <agoodm> whats the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu 2d?
[18:38] <agoodm> and more pertinently how do I move my unity bar icons around in 2d :S
[18:39] <mhall119> agoodm: one uses the compiz-based Unity shell, the other uses the metacity-based Unity-2D shell
[18:39] <Dulak> agoodm: grab the icon, pull it to the side a little and it should detach and allow you to move it
[18:39] <trism> sddhrthrt: check out http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ for a nice overview of the changes
[18:39] <mhall119> Dulak: thanks, maybe I'll try it this weekend
[18:41] <agoodm> Dulak, that works in normal but not 2d
[18:41] <agoodm> in 2d its just scrolling the unity bar icons...
[18:42] <mhall119> agoodm: then that's probably a bug in 2d
[18:42] <Dulak> I'm running 2d and I can drag the icon off to the side and move it up or down the stack
[18:42] <agoodm> might be using gnome shell then on this as ordinary unity isnt exactly snappy
[18:43] <agoodm> let me try an update...
[18:43] <agoodm> unity bar across the bottom would make a lot of sense on 'vertically challenges' screens
[18:44] <agoodm> challenged*
[18:44] <sddhrthrt> trism: Thanks!
[18:46] <Dulak> I'm happy with it, the last update fixed auto-hide for me so I get my full screen finally
[18:55] <skyjumper> is there a way to configure the # of workspaces in unity?
[19:04] <agoodm> skyjumper, yes
[19:07] <Fyodorovna> skyjumper, in ccsm
[19:12] <agoodm> in unity 2d how do i reduce the button size on the panel
[19:19] <skyjumper> any idea where in ccsm? it's not under desktop wall
[19:20] <jbicha> skyjumper: open yelp and search for the page "what is a workspace"
[19:21] <RedBunny> how do you change thesystem font .,....?
[19:21] <RedBunny> in 12.04
[19:23] <skyjumper> grr
[19:24] <RedBunny> grrrEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Britan
[19:26] <MechanisM> hello
[19:26] <agoodm> hi
[19:26] <MechanisM> how to kill process? skype not dies.
[19:27] <agoodm> in terminal killall skype
[19:27] <MechanisM> I tried killall skype
[19:27] <MechanisM> kill ID_OF_PROCESS
[19:27] <agoodm> killall -9 skype will make it try harder
[19:27] <MechanisM> but it's still alive
[19:28] <MechanisM> what means -9 ?
[19:28] <MechanisM> it worked without it
[19:28] <MechanisM> earlier
[19:28] <MechanisM> but thanxx -9 helped
[19:28] <agoodm> if you are having skype issues makes sure you use the version from the ubuntu repos
[19:29] <MechanisM> agoodm thanxx you solved my issue
[19:29] <MechanisM> yes I'm using the one from repos
[19:29] <jinjorge> is there a version in the ubuntu repos for 12.04?
[19:29] <MechanisM> but one with tabs is nicer
[19:29] <agoodm> in the canonical partners repo
[19:29] <MechanisM> I have ubuntu 12.04 x64
[19:30] <MechanisM> but skype in repos only x32
[19:30] <MechanisM> i386
[19:30] <agoodm> works for me in x64
[19:30] <MechanisM> for me too
[19:30] <MechanisM> but it's strange
[19:30] <agoodm> from the repo that is
[19:30] <MechanisM> thanxx dude
[19:30] <agoodm> np
[19:30] <MechanisM> btw what means this -9?
[19:31] <jinjorge> Mechanism: saw a commit for Skype https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/skype/<IP_ADDRESS>-0precise2
[19:31] <jtaylor> MechanisM: see man kill
[19:31] <jinjorge> is this what you installed? agoodm
[19:34] <MechanisM> when new gnome will come into ubuntu?
[19:34] <Fyodorovna> MechanisM, it has gnome 3 now gnome 2 is not supported by its own developers
[19:35] <MechanisM> I mean gnome 3.4
[19:36] <agoodm> jinjorge, ??
[19:36] <MechanisM> https://twitter.com/#!/gnome look at last message
[19:37] <UrB> MechanisM: today if you enable extra PPAs for it (running it as we type) - officially, no idea
[19:37] <MechanisM> so gnome 3,4 released about 4 hours ago
[19:37] <jtaylor> 12.04 has most of 3.4
[19:37] <jtaylor> already
[19:38] <MechanisM> yep I'm on 12.04 thats why I'm in ubuntu+1
[19:38] <MechanisM> ohh okay then
[19:38] <MechanisM> nautilus 3.4.0
[19:38] <MechanisM> hehe
[19:39] <agoodm> in ubuntu with gnome 2 I managed to have a little widget on the top bar which switched my cpu between different governors, ondemand performance etc.  what might an equivalent be in 12.04?
[19:39] <jtaylor> indicator-cpufreq mprobably
[19:39] <MechanisM> I've seen some at askubuntu
[19:46] <agoodm> umn exmpletive
[19:46] <agoodm> does tar -cvf blah.tar location/ not also include hidden . folders?
[19:51] <agoodm> jtaylor, how do I add that to the bar?
[19:51] <jtaylor> sorry no idea
[19:57] <Fyodorovna> agoodm, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/indicator-cpufreq-cpu-frequency-indicator-ppa-installation-instructions-included.html
[20:03] <agoodm> Fyodorovna, thanks installing it now
[20:03] <Fyodorovna> agoodm, runs in precise I use it
[20:04] <agoodm> i take it I need to log out/in to make it show up?
[20:06] <agoodm> yep thats spot on
[20:06] <Fyodorovna> agoodm, in the terminal indicator-cpufreq & exit
[20:06] <darthanubis> anyone using kubuntu and just updated adobe flash, to find all flesh tones are now blue
[20:06] <agoodm> nice :)
[20:06] <agoodm> indicator-multiload also nice
[20:07] <agoodm> thatll help me to know on my netbook if its doing something as it can be slow
[20:08] <agoodm> bit worried about the update speed though...
[20:08] <agoodm> waking the cpu up a lot
[20:08] <jinjorge> agoodm:my apologies. my question wasn't clear
[20:08] <Fyodorovna> agoodm, find apt-fast and use it.
[20:08] <skyjumper> holy shit, restarted compiz and everything is 10x as fast now
[20:09] <jinjorge> agoodm: was trying to figure out how you installed skype as I had run into an issue a while back
[20:09] <skyjumper> anyone know why you can't alt-tab to pidgin conversation windows?
[20:09] <agoodm> Fyodorovna, what does apt-fast do?
[20:09] <mykrobinson> afternoon, all
[20:09] <Fyodorovna> agoodm, use multiple channels to download much faster.
[20:09] <agoodm> erm in software center enable the canonical partners repo, then searched skype
[20:10] <mykrobinson> Got a stupid question. Can someone explain the "unity launcher window dodge" feature that many are complaining about? I read that it is not present in 12.04, so I assume this feature is different from autohide?
[20:10] <agoodm> ah, I get 21mbit with just 1 so no speed difference for me
[20:10] <jinjorge> agoodm:ok, will try that. was using apt-get install skype and always got some dependency errors
[20:11] <agoodm> worked for me on a clean install of x64
[20:11] <agoodm> ymmv!
[20:11] <trism> mykrobinson: I believe the dodge feature would show the launcher most of the time except when a window got in the way, such as maximizing a window
[20:12] <mykrobinson> ah. amazing how difficult it is to find information about this feature on Google, with the exception of articles talking about it being missing
[20:15] <hostnode> Hey guys, I have 12.04, how do I stop rekonq to come up with a search of a hotkey command in case I don't have the program itself for that hotkey installed?
[20:17] <agoodm> new laptop tomorrow, i think im more excited than a kid on xmas eve atm :P
[20:19] <jinjorge> agoodm:Thanks!!! I am up and running
[20:20] <|Long|> hi guys, who here good with x11vnc?
[20:21] <KM0201> |Long|: i wouldn't say "good" but i've managed to get it working before
[20:21] <|Long|> is there away i can config it run auto
[20:22] <tux> how do i play trailers on apple.com
[20:22] <tux> ?
[20:22] <|Long|> if i close terminal is drop the connection
[20:22] <mykrobinson> tux: you okay with using terminal for a sec?
[20:22] <Guest62637> mykrobinson, sure
[20:23] <mykrobinson> open up the terminal and type    sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and press enter
[20:23] <mykrobinson> enter your password
[20:23] <Guest62637> i'll use vim instead but go on ;)
[20:23] <|Long|> KM0201, can u help plz
[20:23] <mykrobinson> Guest62637: uncomment each line that begins with    deb   except the very top one, then save. This will enable the multiverse repositories, etc
[20:24] <mykrobinson> Guest62637: once that is done, then type     sudo apt-get update
[20:24] <KM0201> |Long|: it runs in the terminal, so if yuou close the terminal, of course the connection will drop
[20:24] <KM0201> i'm not sure how you could change that
[20:24] <Guest62637> multiverse are already uncommented out
[20:24] <mykrobinson> Guest62637: and finally,     sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:24] <mykrobinson> Guest62637: this should install all the codecs you need for virtually every multimedia format known to man
[20:25] <Guest62637> ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version.
[20:25] <Guest62637> no dice
[20:25] <mykrobinson> intersting.. lemme tripple check mine, it worked a few days ago. Chrome or Firefox?
[20:25] <Guest62637> firefox 11
[20:25] <Guest62637> all up to date
[20:25] <mykrobinson> just a sec
[20:25] <|Long|> KM0201, well, is there any other vnc can run automaticlly when system start
[20:26] <KM0201> |Long|: i honestly have no idea
[20:26] <Guest62637> mykrobinson, do you have an mplayer plugin enabled or anything ?
[20:26] <KM0201> you might be able to write a script or something to start x11vnc automatically, but i'm not sure how to do that
[20:26] <mykrobinson> Guest62637: working fine here. Can you take a screenshot of Firefox at the address    about:plugins
[20:26] <mykrobinson> Guest62637: no Mplayer here
[20:26] <mykrobinson> Looks like mine is using VLC Multimedia Plugin
[20:26] <Guest62637> hmm
[20:27] <|Long|> KM0201, let me bug the x11vnc author see what hehave to say
[20:27] <mykrobinson> Guest62637: you may have some conflicting plugins?
[20:28] <mykrobinson> my about:plugins page shows   iTunes Application Detector, Shockwave Flash, DivX Web PLayer QuickTime Plugin 7.6.6, Windows Media Player Plugin, and VLC Multimedia Plugin
[20:28] <Guest62637> mykrobinson, i have goole talk plugin, shockwave flash, java and itnes application detector
[20:28] <Guest62637> *itunes
[20:28] <mykrobinson> Guest62637: each of these reference Totem
[20:28] <mykrobinson> and not Mplayer
[20:28] <Guest62637> i think in uninstalled totem
[20:28] <Guest62637> when i first installed
[20:29] <mykrobinson> Guest62637: all i did on clean install was install the restricted extras, and everything worked
[20:29] <Guest62637> mykrobinson, i'll reinstall mplayer and see what happens and then totem
[20:29] <Guest62637> thx anyways
[20:29] <mykrobinson> Guest62637: try the package totem-mozilla
[20:30] <Guest62637> i hate totem and mplayer, wish they'd have vlc by default
[20:30] <Guest62637> its the first package most ppl install
[20:30] <mykrobinson> Guest62637: coincidentally, totem is also what is working for me in Chrome. I dont really have an opinion of it other than its working
[20:31] <Guest62637> mykrobinson, ok i installed mplayer and totem-mozilla (which pulls in totem too) and its working now
[20:31] <mykrobinson> bonus :)
[20:31] <Guest62637> all this for a 30 sec total recall trailer pfft
[20:31] <mykrobinson> hah!
[20:31] <mykrobinson> Will have to look that up, i remember seeing the original as a kid
[20:32] <Guest62637> kate beckinsale is hot :)
[20:32] <Guest62637> later
[20:34] <mykrobinson> nice to be able to help someone for a change :)
[20:43] <FernandoMiguel> boas
[20:44] <agoodm> i cant remember how I got the fn+function keys all to work in ubuntu before... :(
[20:48] <agoodm> ah buttons seem to be working now and i see wifi networks
[20:48] <agoodm> just cant believe my tar -cvf didnt inc hidden files
[20:48] <agoodm> I could cry atm :(
[20:50] <mkultra_> make scripts that print them out then link it up to ur make files
[20:51] <agoodm> huh?
[20:52] <agoodm> I shall be attempting forensic data recovery on my flash pen to see if the tar file I made of the most important settings folder is there in a bit
[20:52] <mkultra_> make a script that has "cat > .file << EOF then the actual file, then EOF" at the end then ./ that script
[20:53] <agoodm> in this case I tarred my home dir up; didnt check for files beyond docs and pics and then after reinstalling realised hidden folders seemed to be missing
[20:53] <mkultra_> oh yeah
[20:54] <mkultra_> i see
[20:54] <agoodm> though earlier on when I was sitting in the garden I did tar the important hidden folder up and put it on my flash pen
[20:54] <mkultra_> you need to add a statement for .* also
[20:54] <agoodm> along with a copy of other files
[20:54] <agoodm> I then dded the ubuntu iso onto the flash pen though so maybe that was overwritten
[20:54] <agoodm> maybe it wasnt
[20:54] <agoodm> r-studio will tell me
[20:55] <agoodm> but need windows for that so itll need to wait
[20:55] <agoodm> if ive lost it then its about 27 months worth of wireless network passwords :P
[20:55] <agoodm> basically the wifi password for every site ive visited in over 2 years
[20:55] <thiebaude> is there anyway to auto login to ubuntu 12.04?
[20:55] <mkultra_> lol do you have a biquad or something
[20:57] <agoodm> biquad?
[20:57] <mkultra_> yeah a satelite wifi dish that goes like 3 miles
[20:58] <agoodm> no but I have a lot of clients :P
[20:58] <agoodm> when I access files via smb:// is that mounted some place for me?
[20:59] <mkultra_> smb vomit
[20:59] <mkultra_> id try to step it up to FTP or NFS dog ;-)
[20:59] <agoodm> noones suggested a better way to access my nas yet... id use nfs and fstab but then wont my boot break if it cant be mounted ie if im not at home?
[20:59] <agoodm> sftp kept breaking
[21:00] <mkultra_> vsftp?
[21:00] <mkultra_> you boot from a network drive?
[21:00] <mkultra_> mr ur cool....
[21:01] <mkultra_> i always fail at samba and network boots, ull have to school me
[21:01] <mkultra_> why not have a 300 meg /boot partition on the local pc
[21:02] <agoodm> no
[21:03] <agoodm> ive not got 2tb of storage in my laptop
[21:03] <agoodm> so ive got a NAS (its a server with a bunch of disks in it running centos 5)
[21:03] <mkultra_> i see
[21:03] <agoodm> about 2 weeks ago my daily computer was windows 7, quad core, sli, heat+++ power+++
[21:04] <mkultra_> i just have my laptop at school
[21:04] <agoodm> ive changed from using that daily to a thinkpad x220 with dual monitors and a dock station
[21:04] <mkultra_> nice
[21:04] <agoodm> so problem is how to access nas, smb works OK
[21:04] <agoodm> sftp dies on certain use cases
[21:05] <mkultra_> and NFS doesnt have the /boot on local machines
[21:05] <BlakJak> so.. any idea when the bug causing chromium to crash on first load is likely to be dealt to?
[21:05] <agoodm> nfs could work but I cant think how to make it work without manual mount every time on cli, problems related to if I take my laptop away without unmounting it first etc
[21:05] <agoodm> dont want to use fstab because boot might hang if the mount fails (?)
[21:05] <mkultra_> i just ran chromium first time and it didnt crash, however my schools net's sucking right nnow
[21:06] <mkultra_> oh right right
[21:06] <mkultra_> have to mount / unmount nfs 4 sure
[21:06] <agoodm> so there ya go, problem is now evident
[21:06] <agoodm> smb works nicely tbh, fast etc
[21:06] <agoodm> bookmarked for easy access
[21:07] <mkultra_> are there any other nas technologies to choose from?
[21:07] <agoodm> but if I want to manipulate files on cli i must ssh the server as it doesnt seemt o be mounted anywhere
[21:07] <agoodm> i cant think of any really
[21:07] <agoodm> nfs used to work fantastic when I had a media pc in my last place, 24/7 connected though...
[21:08] <mkultra_> i seen a comparison and SMB was at bottom of performance, and its generally a doze protocol and i was told to stay away from doze in linux
[21:08] <agoodm> it works and its fast enough for me... gigabit network and fast server though with raid etc
[21:08] <agoodm> this pc in windows 7 can max the gigabit link out on simple file copies
[21:10] <mkultra_> im used to 100tx lol
[21:10] <agoodm> gigabit rocks
[21:10] <agoodm> get a cheap netgear gs108 switch off ebay
[21:15] <mkultra_> i dont have 2 devices right now
[21:15] <mkultra_> i think my home pc supports gb
[21:15] <mkultra_> this laptops 10/100 4 sure though
[21:15] <agoodm> ah
[21:16] <mkultra_> does it do straight through to straight through?
[21:17] <agoodm> afaik gigabit can do crossover yes
[21:18] <agoodm> need a cross wired cable
[21:18] <mkultra_> idk i dont have enough experience with it
[21:19] <agoodm> pc to switch = ordinary patch cable
[21:20] <agoodm> pc to pc = cross wired aka cross over aka xwired cable
[21:20] <mkultra_> right
[21:20] <agoodm> crossover cables can also work with some switches if they support reversed polarity detection and correction
[21:20] <mkultra_> but gigabit uses all pairs on the wire
[21:20] <mkultra_> thats what i was thinking
[21:20] <agoodm> on a xwired cable the send and receive pairs are swapped at one end, so send on one end connects to receive on the other and vice versa
[21:21] <mkultra_> gigabit cards wired to run forward backward and roll over all at the same time
[21:22] <Dulak> Don't all gigabit cards auto-detect that and flip send/recieve automagically?  Mine certainly does, I can plug straight-through cable nic to nic and it gets link and works fine without a xover cable....
[21:22] <agoodm> its the switch that has that function not the card in my experience
[21:22] <agoodm> most switches do it though these days...
[21:22] <agoodm> Dulak, could be nic specific feature
[21:23] <TheSimkin> i did not realize gigabit used all the pairs.
[21:23] <agoodm> certainly in my experience most cards ive used dont do it
[21:23] <Dulak> I don't have a switch or hub, I just plug cable nic-to-nic and it goes
[21:23] <agoodm> yes every cable
[21:23] <TheSimkin> thanks guys, learned something new today!
[21:23] <agoodm> thats why a lot of installations that work fine at 10/100 fail at gigabit
[21:23] <mkultra_> yeah
[21:23] <Dulak> I thought that was a standard feature...
[21:23] <mkultra_> they prolly need shielded cat 6
[21:23] <agoodm> cus at gigabit the installation needs to be that extra bit perfect, near isnt near enough etc
[21:23] <RedBunny> where do you set system wide fonts ,.....?
[21:23] <Dulak> Guess I just got lucky
[21:24] <mkultra_> i figured at the point of gig id go fiber crazy
[21:24] <agoodm> cat5e has been good enough for every install ive used gigabit in, with cable runs up to 50m provided both ends terminated correctly
[21:24] <agoodm> cat6 is for 10gige over short runs afaik
[21:24] <mkultra_> because of attenuation and cross talk and short distance of copper
[21:25] <mkultra_> i gotta go to class
[21:25] <mkultra_> l8er
[21:25] <WilsonBradley> How do I create an ISO from a CD in my tray?
[21:25] <agoodm> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=somefile.iso :D
[21:27] <agoodm> replace cdrom with whatever the device name it
[21:27] <agoodm> is
[21:30] <LetterRip> hi is there a reason why the update manager seems to be downloading two copies of different files? ie wine-gecko
[21:41] <danielc> Hi all. Somedays ago, after an update, I started to have some problems with the deadkeys of my keyboard. Anyone having the same problem here?
[21:42] <danielc> I'm using a us english keyboard configured as us international with AltGr.
[21:42] <mrdeb> hi
[21:43] <agoodm> on the subject of keyboards ive selected the wrong layout
[21:43] <agoodm> whats the easiest way to try the other layouts?
[21:43] <danielc> I think it is not the case. The same layout was working until some days ago.
[21:47] <ChrisGagnon> I am trying the beta2 netboot image and it's asking for a username and password, is there a d-i command I can put in the preseed file so it doesn't ask?
[21:49] <agoodm> lol parcelforce is in the future
[21:50] <mrdeb> hi agoo
[21:50] <mrdeb> how r u
[21:50] <agoodm> good :)
[21:52] <mrdeb> good
[21:52] <mrdeb> sometimes ppl get sad, but it's ok
[21:52] <agoodm> looking forward to new laptop tomorrow :)
[21:52] <mrdeb> oh ok what is it
[21:52] <agoodm> lenovo x220
[21:54] <agoodm> pretty excited :)
[21:54] <agoodm> the first laptop ive ever owned that actually has some oomph to it
[21:55] <mrdeb> i c
[21:55] <mrdeb> does it have nvidia
[21:55] <agoodm> nah its intel onboard
[21:55] <agoodm> im hoping its enough to run unity 3d smoothly with the modifications ive come up with over the past 3 days of trialling it on my desktop pc (Which is lol powerful inc nvidia sli)
[21:56] <mrdeb> yes it is
[21:56] <mrdeb> hd 3000 is pretty fast
[21:56] <agoodm> sweet, excited
[21:56] <agoodm> i bet the courier will therefore not come untill the evening :P
[21:57] <agoodm> someone remind me how to enable multi touch gesture scrolling please
[21:59] <mrdeb> sorry, i dont know but maybe someoen else will
[21:59] <mrdeb> good luck
[22:00]  * agoodm tries typing mouse into the launcher thingy whatever its cakked
[22:00] <agoodm> called
[22:01] <mrdeb> touchpad
[22:01] <mrdeb> try that
[22:04] <agoodm> gotcha
[22:06] <kyubotsu> it's caked dash, which then is a lie
[22:09] <mrdeb> what
[22:30] <|rt|> has anyone here seen a laptop screen not turn back on after being closed for overnight?  I've seen this behavior a number of times with fglxr drivers and the laptop is set not to hibernate when plugged in so it should be coming right up
[22:31] <|rt|> the problem was resolved when using the radeon drivers...so I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the fglxr drivers
[22:38] <ratcheer> I cannot print to my Canon MP620 in Precise. Driver installation and setup was good. When I try to print, the printer status even changes like everything is working, but nothing prints. In CUPS, I can see error:/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstocanonij failed
[22:39] <ratcheer> Also, the same printer prints just fine in Oneiric.
[22:43] <ssfdre38> hey do you know a way to have the installer menu to show up on the ubuntu 12.04 Beta 1 installer and not hit enter to bring it up
[22:45] <Fyodorovna> ssfdre38, why?
[22:46] <ssfdre38> im customizing the installer a bit for me
[22:46] <Fyodorovna> ssfdre38, waste of time frankly
[22:46] <Fyodorovna> if you can even do it.
[22:47] <ssfdre38> http://images.ssfdre38.com/?v=FOaIJ.jpg not really and besides im bored
[22:48] <LetterRip> hi all i'm installing a more recent kernel (3.3.0) but for some reason i get to 'update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.3.0-030300-generic ' and it seems stuck/frozen
[22:48] <LetterRip> any ideas?
[23:00] <Fyodorovna> ssfdre38, that would be considered not family friendly.
[23:05] <scientes> will precise have gnome 3.4?
[23:07] <Logan_> scientes: "Ubuntu 12.04 will ship with a number of updated packages from GNOME 3.4 (such as GNOME 3.4), whilst others will remain on their GNOME 3.2 counterpart (such as Totem Movie Player) for stability reasons."
[23:07] <micahg> umm, Totem is on 3.0, where does it say that?
[23:10] <micahg> Logan_: ^^
[23:10] <Logan_> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/new-gnome-3-4-release-offers-features-fun-ui-finesse/
[23:12] <scientes> thank god gnome finially has a power actions in g-s-s
[23:19] <st1> does "scale all windows" work for you guys? I just tried daily in livecd, it just shows windows in current workspace
[23:20] <LetterRip> ie - update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.3.0-030300-generic - seems to have hung - any suggestions?
[23:20] <Daekdroom> st1, intentional
[23:21] <st1> Daekdroom: why would that be intentional? is there a bug report I can check
[23:21] <bitplane-> Hi all, since the upgrade to 12.04 Unity 3D isn't working anymore. I get a desktop but the panel and menu don't appear. Is this known/common?
[23:22] <bitplane-> I opened ccsm and Ubuntu Unity plugin is disabled. If I enable it then close ccsm, it returns to disabled
[23:22] <Daekdroom> st1, the design team changed the default, but apparently they messed up it in a way that in CCSM it's still set to show windows in all workspaces.
[23:22] <Fyodorovna> bitplane-, look in ccsm to dee if the unity plugin is ticked on
[23:22] <Fyodorovna> see*
[23:22] <Daekdroom> st1, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/933776
[23:23] <Daekdroom> So no matter whether you try to make it show windows from all workspaces or only current, it'll show from the current workspace.
[23:23] <st1> Fyodorovna: I don't think you can disable unity plugin in ccsm now, there's no checkbox
[23:24] <Fyodorovna> st1, you can from inside the plugin
[23:24] <st1> Daekdroom: thanks, hoping it'll be fixed until release
[23:24] <st1> Fyodorovna: oh, I didn't know
[23:27] <bitplane-> is there a way to completely reset ccsm? I have a named profile in there that is corrupted
[23:27] <Daekdroom> bitplane-, 'unity --reset' should do it.
[23:27] <bitplane-> thanks :)
[23:29] <aguitel> how install cinnamon in 12.04 ?
[23:29] <roasted> hello!
[23:29] <bitplane-> ok, time to test this. thanks for the help... looks like it wasn't 12.04's problem but a corrupted profile in ccsm that wouldn't let me save unity plugin settings
[23:29] <roasted> http://i.imgur.com/aNWnB.jpg
[23:30] <roasted> our one computer lab @ work (school dist) running 12.04 64 bit
[23:30] <roasted> :) :) :) :)
[23:30] <jinjorge> aguitel: there is a good step by step article here http://www.howtogeek.com/103691/install-linux-mints-new-cinnamon-desktop-on-ubuntu/
[23:32] <aguitel> jinjorge, i am now in kde , it is possible to install it ?
[23:34] <Fyodorovna> aguitel, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-cinnamon-in-ubuntu-using-ppa.html
[23:34] <jinjorge> aguitel: do you have the ability to switch btwn unity and kde?
[23:34] <aguitel> jinjorge, why unity ?
[23:34] <bitplane-> Yep that worked, though the inability to disable the unity plugin also means you can't enable it. well, you can from the button at the bottom when its selected, but it was confusing
[23:35] <jinjorge> aguitel: I don't think it matters that you are running kde and now want to install cinnamon
[23:35] <jinjorge> aguitel:the instructions that Fyodorovna and I provided should do the trick
[23:35] <aguitel> Fyodorovna, jinjorge ok
[23:36] <jinjorge> aguitel: try it out and report back
[23:36] <jinjorge> shouldn't take long to figure out how things go
[23:38] <bitplane-> is it possible to customize the alt menu searcher thing?
[23:38] <bitplane-> I tried it twice and it seems unintuitive; I typed alt -> new in a terminal window and couldn't find "new window" ... because it's actually "open terminal" with no mention of "new"
[23:39] <aguitel> i follow this guide to add ppa but it say:E: Unable to locate package cinnamon
[23:39] <aguitel> this guide:http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-cinnamon-1-4-in-ubuntu-12-0411-10.html
[23:39] <bitplane-> then I tried alt -> chat in this window, but empathy doesn't have a "join a chat room" in the menu for a chat window, so couldn't find that
[23:41] <bitplane-> HUD, that's what it's called. it's slow too, taking a second or so to enumerate the menus after pressing a key
[23:46] <jinjorge> aguitel: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:merlwiz79/cinnamon-ppa - this worked for me
[23:49] <jinjorge> aguitel: were you able to add the repo?
[23:52] <RedBunny> where do you set system wide fonts ,.....?
[23:56] <scientes> RedBunny, gnome-tweak-tool
[23:56] <scientes> you have to install it
[23:58] <aguitel> jinjorge, yes it woked
[23:58] <aguitel> jinjorge, worked


[05:17] <kpepple_> Ubuntu announced a MapR charm back in April (http://www.eweek.com/database/mapr-puts-hadoop-on-ubuntu-source-code-on-github/) but I can't find it anywhere. did this get released ?
[05:17] <kpepple_> I looked thru https://jujucharms.com/ but don't see any sign of it
[09:35] <faisal> hello :)
[11:23] <tom95> is it possible to use nginx instead of apache as http server with juju?
[11:25] <mgz> tom95: there's a somewhat involved answer, but yes
[11:26] <tom95> mgz: I haven't used it yet, I just had a look at juju and decided I like it, so I don't know much about the technical side yet. Are there downsides on using nginx compared to apache or is there basically no difference?
[11:27] <mgz> it's flexible, and can be decided at the charm or deployment level
[11:28] <mgz> some web frameworks prefer one or the other or could support both
[11:28] <mgz> you can write your charm (or use existing ones) that would use either
[11:34] <tom95> ok, thanks!
[11:34] <gotwig> hello world
[11:35] <gotwig> https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/994699
[11:35] <_mup_> Bug #994699: Charm Needed: Nginx <Juju Charms Collection:Confirmed for imbrandon> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/994699>
[11:35] <gotwig> can you do something here?
[11:53] <marcoceppi> gotwig: what is there to do?
[11:53] <marcoceppi> That charm was never approved for the charm store
[11:55] <gotwig> marcoceppi: why
[11:55] <gotwig> how can it get approved
[11:55] <marcoceppi> gotwig: All charms go through a review process before making it in to the charm store. This one was in the process of being reviewed but the author never finished the charm
[11:56] <gotwig> oh
[11:56] <gotwig> tom95: ^
[11:56] <gotwig> marcoceppi: what is missing
[11:56] <marcoceppi> gotwig: read the bug, these "Charm Needed" bugs are not stating that the charms are missing, but are part of the charm submission process
[11:58] <marcoceppi> gotwig: a charm doesn't NEED to be in the store for you to deploy it. It's in a "personal" charm branch right now. You can fork the branch and work on it if you're interested in using it (and deploy from local repository) or you can deploy it as is with juju deploy cs:imbrandon/nginx
[11:58] <marcoceppi> gotwig: however, based on the feedback it doesn't look 100% ready, so it's deploy at your own risk when using a personal deployment branch
[11:59] <gotwig> marcoceppi: does it work with juju gui?
[11:59] <marcoceppi> Given that this charm hasn't been touched in over 6 months, if you're interested in using it, you might want to take over development of it
[11:59] <marcoceppi> gotwig: https://jujucharms.com/fullscreen/search/~imbrandon/precise/nginx-7/?series=precise&text=nginx yes
[12:00] <gotwig> marcoceppi: this doesnt work
[12:00] <marcoceppi> gotwig: You can deploy "personal" branches from the GUI, you just need to make sure you unselect "Reviewed Charms" from the search
[12:00] <marcoceppi> gotwig: You'll need to provide more details than "doesn't work"
[12:00] <gotwig> tom95: ^
[12:01] <gotwig> marcoceppi: I dont see it in the link
[12:01] <gotwig> you posted
[12:01] <gotwig> oh
[12:01] <gotwig> dat checkbox, yeah..
[12:02] <marcoceppi> gotwig: When searching, it'll default to only showing reviewed charms, to get all charms - including personal UNREVIEWED branches unselect that checkbox
[12:18] <gotwig> nginx devs go mad on me :>
[12:21] <jamespage> wow - I just found "add-unit --to"
[12:21] <jamespage> nice
[12:21] <jamespage> hulk smash builtin
[12:22] <jamespage> negronjl, racedo: ^^ both deploy and add-unit both have a '--to' option in the latest juju-core release which covers the co-location/hulk smash challenges we talked about last week
[12:32] <negronjl> jamespage, cool ... thx.  I'll start playing with it
[12:34] <racedo> jamespage: awesome!
[12:37] <racedo> jamespage: btw the virtme charm is great, i couldn't use it in precise though, I believe that if the charm pulled libvirt from cloud-archive it would work well in precise
[12:38] <jamespage> racedo, yeah - I've only been using on raring
[12:38] <jamespage> racedo, I suspect it could be fixed up
[12:38] <racedo> jamespage: i suspect it's just libvirt not having support for openvswitch type of bridge
[12:38] <jamespage> racedo, feel free to fixup and propose a merge :-)(
[12:38] <racedo> jamespage: i still need to get my hands dirty charming stuff
[12:39] <racedo> jamespage: negronjl is the charms master so i can relax there ;-)
[13:36] <jhf> hey m_3 - you there?
[13:39] <marcoceppi> jhf: he's on the west coast for the week
[13:40] <jhf_> well m_3 if so - I told you something wrong yesterday - my website-relation-joined hook is still hard coded. I'm fixing it now.
[13:45] <marcoceppi> jhf: He brought this up earlier actually, I think he patched it already
[13:46] <jhf> oh.. ok, thanks for doing that - I was thinking about my start hook where I did make the port dynamic, but he was talking about the website-relation-joined and I confused the two. thanks!
[13:46] <marcoceppi> jhf: https://code.launchpad.net/~charmers/charms/precise/liferay/trunk
[13:47] <marcoceppi> np! I think he's using it during a demo, so it was quickly patched
[13:47] <jhf> cool.. should I fix it in my branch too?
[13:48] <marcoceppi> jhf: you can just bzr pull lp:charms/liferay to get the patch
[13:48] <jhf> k thx
[13:53] <m_3> jhf: thanks!
[13:53] <m_3> jhf: btw, now having some sort of issues with liferay behind haproxy
[13:54] <jhf> oh?
[13:54] <m_3> jhf: not sure what the problem was, but don't have time to debug it now
[13:54] <jhf> k
[13:54] <m_3> had the java exceptions, but I think I wiped them
[13:55] <jhf> ok. liferay can produce lots of innocuous stack traces :)
[13:55] <m_3> this was just one mysql, one liferay, and one haproxy node all wired up
[13:55] <m_3> then hit the haproxy and got "An unexpected system error occurred.
[13:55] <m_3> java.lang.NullPointerException"
[13:55] <m_3> via the web interface
[13:56] <jhf> ok. sounds un-haproxy-related to me, but if/when you see it again I should take a look.
[13:56] <jhf> ill be there around 8:30 or a bit before
[13:57] <m_3> jhf: k, thanks!
[14:29] <freeflying> bootstraping a local environment need to be done as root with latest juju-core?
[14:30] <marcoceppi> freeflying: bootstrapping and destroying need to be done with root
[14:30] <marcoceppi> freeflying: this is expected behavior
[14:37] <freeflying> marcoceppi: I recall in juju python version, sudo will be invoked by juju itself, now we need run sudo juju bootstrap?
[14:38] <marcoceppi> freeflying: correct, this is a similar but different implementation of the local provider. Instead of having sudo called during bootstrap (requiring someone to watch the command) it's just required for the bootstrap and destroy-environment command outright. All other commands can be run as a normal user
[14:39] <freeflying> marcoceppi: cool, thanks, but by running sudo juju bootstrap, I got error: no reachable servers
[14:39] <marcoceppi> freeflying: What version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:41] <freeflying> marcoceppi: 1.11.3--ubuntu1
[14:41] <marcoceppi> freeflying: `lsb_release -r` ?
[14:41] <freeflying> marcoceppi: saucy, sorry, the package was installed from archive
[14:43] <marcoceppi> freeflying: okay, good. You're probably missing a few dependencies. First, `juju destroy-environment`, then install lxc, mongodb-server, mongodb; then run `sudo service mongodb stop`, bootstrap again
[14:44] <freeflying> marcoceppi: yep, I forgot to install mongodb, thanks again for pointing it out
[14:44] <marcoceppi> freeflying: np, I seriously think it should be a recommends for juju-core packaging, but until then the docs will just need to mention it
[14:45] <marcoceppi> at least a suggests
[14:46] <marcoceppi> freeflying: http://bit.ly/1366OtX
[14:46] <freeflying> marcoceppi: if we can update the doc, might be more helpful, since most users will dig into documents firstly
[14:46] <marcoceppi> freeflying: docs for local provider are landing soon
[14:47] <freeflying> marcoceppi: in terms of packaging, we may have a meta package for user who want try with local provide to get dependencies installed
[14:47] <freeflying> marcoceppi: that sounds great
[14:47] <marcoceppi> freeflying: that's a good idea as well, juju-core juju-core-local-provider or something like that
[14:49] <freeflying> marcoceppi: will file a whishlist for it :)
[14:57] <pavel> I've updated documentation for rack charm v2 https://github.com/Altoros/rack
[15:29] <arosales> pavel, looking good. I know m_3 is at OSCON this week so if any Rails guys are there I am sure your charm may come up.
[15:31] <pavel> arosales, tomorrow meeting will be on schedule?
[15:31] <arosales> pavel, yes marcoceppi and I (at a minimum) will be there
[15:32] <pavel> arosales, cool
[15:39] <freeflying> marcoceppi: after installed and run mongodb-server, still run into problems: freeflying@ultra:~$ sudo juju bootstrap
[15:39] <freeflying> error: no reachable servers
[15:39] <marcoceppi> freeflying: make sure mongodb service is off
[15:39] <marcoceppi> then destroy-environment again and bootstrap once more. If you're still having an issue let me know
[15:45] <freeflying> marcoceppi: yes, tried both, same issue
[15:46] <marcoceppi> freeflying: what does /var/log/upstart/juju-db-*.log have in it?
[15:50] <freeflying> marcoceppi: only has /var/log/upstart/juju-db-freeflying-local.log
[15:50] <marcoceppi> freeflying: no output in the log?
[15:50] <freeflying> //paste.ubuntu.com/5904546/
[15:51] <marcoceppi> freeflying: can you destroy-environment again, then run sudo juju boostrap -v and pipe the output to a pastebin? It'll be pretty verbose.
[15:53] <freeflying> 2013-07-23 15:53:40 ERROR juju open.go:89 state: connection failed, will retry: dial tcp <IP_ADDRESS>:37017: connection refused
[15:55] <freeflying> marcoceppi: http://paste.ubuntu.com.cn/251140
[15:56] <marcoceppi> freeflying: what does `sudo status juju-db-freeflying-local` say?
[15:57] <freeflying> juju-db-freeflying-local stop/waiting
[15:58] <marcoceppi> freeflying: run `sudo start juju-db-freeflying-local` then run status again
[16:01] <freeflying> marcoceppi: same, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5904578/ log from syslog FYI
[16:01]  * freeflying 's bed time, see you later
[16:03] <marcoceppi> freeflying: I'm not sure, it looks like a bug. I've not tried in saucy yet though
[16:39] <mhall119> mramm: will you be able to join the weekly engineering webcast in 20 minutes to update everybody on juju?
[16:43] <mramm> mhall119: I'm in the charm school at OSCON, so I won't be able to be there
[16:43] <mhall119> and no jorge either :(
[16:44] <mramm> perhaps antonio can cover... let me see
[16:44] <mhall119> okay, we'll get a Juju update next week then, you guys have fun (but not too much fun)!
[16:44] <mramm> arosales: you around?
[16:45] <arosales> mramm, yes
[16:45] <mramm> would you be interested in covering for me/jorge on the weekly engineering update webcast?
[16:45] <mramm> it's not critical, we can just do the update next week
[16:46] <mramm> actually, let's just do it next week
[16:46] <arosales> mramm, let me check on the conflicting meetings I have atm
[16:46] <mramm> arosales: don't worry about it, next week is fine
[16:47] <arosales> mramm, ok totally your call