[03:27] <jtam> Hi, recently I am playing with snappy on raspberry pi, I want to use docker to run my application. while running the command 'docker run -d --device=/dev/ttyAMA0:/dev/ttyAMA0 --device=/dev/mem:/dev/mem --privileged -ti <name>', I got this error 'open /dev/bus: permission denied ', any ideas how to solve it?
[07:54] <shuduo> ogra_: ping
[07:58] <shuduo> ogra_: hi, i have asked you regarding OEM snap few days ago. Now I'm generating an oem snap and snappy image on xenial environment. I refer snappy-systems code and built out oem snap but u-d-f refused to generate snappy image with msg "kylin-oem/canonical-rockchip-kylin_1.0_all.snap failed to install: open /tmp/read-file931124659/unpack/DEBIAN/manifest: no such file or directory".
[08:01] <shuduo> and u-d-f refused eailer oem snap due to package.yaml can't be found. seems 15.04 use meta/package.yaml but 16.04 use meta/snap.yaml
[08:02] <shuduo> i copied snap.yaml to package.yaml to make u-d-f satisfied but stuck at DEBIAN/manifest. anything wrong I made?
[08:06] <shuduo> anyone help me for above issue?
[08:10] <zyga> good morning
[08:12] <zyga> shuduo: OEM snaps are gone right? we have kernel (or platform really as it's more than the kernel), os snap (shared among all core devices) and gadget snap
[08:12] <zyga> shuduo: OEM is the old name for what 16.04 calls the kernel snap
[08:13] <shuduo> zyga: morning
[08:13] <shuduo> zyga: is there a doc for how to port snappy 16.04 to a new platform I can read?
[08:14] <zyga> shuduo: maybe, but I don't know of one, I'd start with raspberry pi as a learning device (to see how it's made) and then try to transplant bits and pieces to a different hardware
[08:15] <zyga> shuduo: so get 16.04 gadget and kernel for pi2
[08:15] <zyga> shuduo: and see what's inside
[08:15] <zyga> shuduo: make sure you can rebuild them
[08:15] <zyga> shuduo: and iterate
[08:16] <zyga> noizer: hey
[08:16] <zyga> noizer: I wasn't around yesterday
[08:16] <zyga> noizer: I can help you out, I'd just prefer to do it in public here, as others can benefit, ok?
[08:18] <noizer> ok
[08:18] <shuduo> zyga: thanks. could you pls point me where I can download gadget and kernel snap of PI2?
[08:19] <zyga> shuduo: I wish I can remember, gimme a sec
[08:19] <shuduo> and u-d-f command line parameters for 16.04
[08:19] <shuduo> thanks
[08:19] <zyga> shuduo: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy-hub/snappy-systems/files
[08:20] <zyga> shuduo: have a look at this, I haven't tried in a while but I think this is the right version
[08:20] <zyga> shuduo: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy-hub/snappy-systems/view/head:/pi2/meta/snap.yaml
[08:20] <zyga> shuduo: this is the gadget snap
[08:21] <zyga> shuduo: now the kernel... hmm
[08:21] <noizer> zyga how can i check that I did everything correct from the core?
[08:21] <shuduo> zyga: yes, i read it and thought it's OEM snap
[08:21] <zyga> noizer: so what did you do so far?
[08:22] <zyga> shuduo: this is a bad week to try this because of MWC and EW trade shows both allocating lots of people away from their normal work
[08:22] <zyga> shuduo: but I'll try to find where the kernel lives
[08:22] <zyga> dholbach: hey, do you know where the source for kernel snaps live? (pi2)
[08:22] <dholbach> good morning
[08:22] <dholbach> hey zyga
[08:22] <dholbach> no idea - ppisati should probably know
[08:23] <dholbach> or ogra_
[08:23] <zyga> dholbach: we should put this into the topic of the channel
[08:23] <zyga> dholbach: a small wiki page with essential snapy hacker links
[08:23] <zyga> dholbach: +1/-1?
[08:23] <noizer> I've done everything to the point of building
[08:23] <zyga> dholbach: ogra is on EW, won't respond for a week
[08:23] <noizer> zyga that was the last thing I've done
[08:23] <zyga> noizer: ok cd $GOPATH/src/github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/cmd/snap
[08:23] <zyga> noizer: go build
[08:23] <zyga> noizer: if that works you're 99% there
[08:24] <noizer> ok done that
[08:24] <zyga> noizer: built fine?
[08:24] <zyga> noizer: you can try ./snap --help
[08:25] <zyga> noizer: just as a sanity check
[08:25] <shuduo> zyga: or i can iterate 15.04 ... but make a few sense. :)
[08:25] <zyga> shuduo: no, use 16.04
[08:25] <noizer> zyga that works fine
[08:25] <zyga> noizer: clone my devscripts somewhere please (github.com/zyga/devscripts)
[08:25] <zyga> er
[08:25] <zyga> devtools
[08:25] <zyga> sorry
[08:25] <zyga> http://github.com/zyga/devtools
[08:26] <dholbach> zyga, sounds good - feel free to add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Snappy/
[08:26] <zyga> dholbach: thanks, will do
[08:27] <dholbach> zyga, maybe on http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/ somewhere?
[08:27]  * dholbach shrugs
[08:27] <zyga> dholbach: well, _maybe_ :D
[08:27] <zyga> in that pile over there ;)
[08:28] <zyga> noizer: then make sure you have a compatible ssh config (look at the README.md file) -- you must be able to login to your device with ssh snappy-pi2
[08:28] <noizer> zyga i've downloaded it
[08:28] <zyga> noizer: if not, tweak your ssh config
[08:28] <zyga> noizer: if you have to, build a new image (you can use the ubuntu-image script from the same repo to get one)
[08:28] <zyga> noizer: (just make sure to build a developer image with your ssh keys inside)
[08:28] <zyga> noizer: run the ubuntu-image script without arguments to do that
[08:29] <noizer> zyga ow does i need to build it on my rpi2 the snappy image?
[08:29] <zyga> noizer: nope
[08:29] <noizer> okey :D
[08:29] <zyga> noizer: on your usual computer
[08:29] <noizer> where does i need to set the config for my ssh then?
[08:30] <zyga> noizer: ~/.ssh/config
[08:30] <zyga> noizer: you have to be able to run 'ssh snappy-pi2' and login to your device without any prompts
[08:31] <zyga> noizer: https://github.com/zyga/devtools#ssh-configuration
[08:33] <noizer> the ssh does need to changed on my rpi2 but what does needs to run on my rpi2?
[08:38] <noizer> zyga I don't understand it completely
[08:40] <noizer> Where exactly does i need to change the ssh config file?
[08:40] <noizer> on my own device?
[08:42] <zyga> noizer: yes
[08:42] <zyga> noizer: everything I said so far happens on your host device
[08:43] <noizer> zyga ok busy with it
[08:43] <zyga> kk
[08:44] <zyga> ppisati: hey, do you happen to know where the sources for kernel snap for pi2 are?
[08:44] <ppisati> zyga: i know where the source for the kernel are
[08:45] <zyga> ppisati: how are they built to a kernel snap?
[08:45] <zyga> ppisati: with snapcraft or manuall?
[08:45] <zyga> manually?
[08:45] <ppisati> zyga: i think still manually
[08:45] <zyga> ppisati: can you share that, I'm collecting the knowledge and I could use the links and simple instruction
[08:45] <zyga> ppisati: plus it will help me with my skills work
[08:46] <ppisati> zyga: ask mvo or sergiuns they are building these snaps
[08:46] <zyga> ah, cool, will do, thanks
[08:46] <noizer> ssh: Could not resolve hostname pi2-1.lan: Name or service not known
[08:47] <zyga> noizer: have you read what I wrote in the readme file?
[08:47] <zyga> "Put something similar to your ~/.ssh/config file. Do change bbb-1.lan and pi2-1.lan to an appropriate hostname (or IP address) that is valid in your setup."
[08:47] <zyga> to quote ^^
[08:47] <noizer> auwtch lol
[08:47] <noizer> just read it xD
[08:48] <noizer> does it need to be a raspberry pi with an os on it?
[08:50] <zyga> noizer: yes, build the OS with the ubuntu-image script first
[08:50] <zyga> noizer: copy it to an SD card (dd the whole image)
[08:50] <zyga> noizer: and boot your pi
[08:50] <zyga> noizer: make sure you can log in first
[08:50] <zyga> noizer: (1) flash (2) setup ssh and login (3) use refresh-bits.sh script to do other stuff
[08:52] <noizer> I need to make the devel image?
[08:52] <zyga> yep
[08:52] <zyga> to be able to log in without a password
[08:53] <zyga> it just puts your public ssh key in ~ubuntu/.ssh/authorized_keys
[08:55] <noizer> zyga wait a minute just need to install some deps first
[09:01] <noizer> wtf i did make image and got very strange thing with my VM
[09:16] <noizer> zyga http://imgur.com/lKrYoEK
[09:22] <zyga> noizer: I have no idea what that is, maybe your machine is broken somehow
[09:24] <noizer> rebooted it and try again zyga :p
[09:26] <noizer> dammed the .ssh file not found
[09:27] <zyga> noizer: it is a directory, just create it
[09:27] <noizer> ok
[09:28] <zyga> noizer: and make an ssh key
[09:28] <zyga> noizer: ssh-keygen -t rsa
[09:30] <zyga> mvo: hey, can you please point me to the source of pi2 kernel snap
[09:30] <zyga> mvo: and perhaps instructions on how to rebuild it
[09:43] <zyga> dholbach: I've added a link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Snappy
[09:43] <dholbach> awesome :)
[09:46] <mvo> zyga: here is the script that builds the kernel snap http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/mksnap-os-kernel/view/head:/mk-kernel-rpi2.sh - note that it get the actual kernelfrom  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily-preinstalled/curren
[09:48] <zyga> woot, thanks mvo
[10:12] <mvo> zyga: could you please re-merge your two pending branches with master? this should fix the integration test failures
[10:13] <mvo> zyga: ups, three
[10:16] <zyga> mvo: sure
[10:40] <zyga> mvo: done, pushed now
[11:06] <noizer> zyga sorry for the delay but know i can ssh to my rpi2 with ssh snappy-pi2
[11:06] <noizer> zyga what should i need to do now?
[11:07] <noizer> i did now ./refresh-bits.sh on my host computer
[11:11] <zyga> noizer: cool, so now you can do two things:
[11:12] <zyga> noizer: you can use refresh-bits.sh to push new snap, snappy and snapd
[11:12] <zyga> noizer: you can use setup and run-snapd to run snapd that you've built on the board
[11:12] <zyga> noizer: now what you want to do is to go to $GOPATH/src/github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy
[11:12] <zyga> noizer: and do this:
[11:13] <zyga> git remote add zyga https://github.com/zyga/snappy.git
[11:13] <zyga> noizer: git fetch zyga
[11:13] <zyga> noizer: git checkout zyga/skills-demo-i2c
[11:13] <zyga> noizer: with that you will have my development branch
[11:13] <zyga> noizer: then re-run refresh-bits with all arguments (setup snap snappy snapd run-snapd)
[11:14] <zyga> noizer: then ssh into the board and run sudo ./snap experimental
[11:14] <zyga> NOTE: ./snap not snap
[11:14] <zyga> noizer: then you should be good to go for the next step
[11:15] <zyga> noizer: you should see a bunch of extra commands for working with skills
[11:16] <noizer> something goes wrong :s will send you what I done
[11:17] <noizer> http://pastebin.com/mWdaGdAx
[11:17] <noizer> zyga
[11:19] <zyga> noizer: refresh-bits.sh --pi2
[11:20] <zyga> noizer: use --pi2 to work against a raspberry pi
[11:20] <zyga> noizer: by default it tries to talk to a VM running localy
[11:20] <zyga> locally
[11:20] <noizer> ok that worked
[11:21] <zyga> noizer: now you can add an i2c skill using:
[11:22] <noizer> the snap file where is it on my rpi2?
[11:22] <zyga> noizer: in ~/
[11:22] <noizer> because you said I need to do sudo ./snap
[11:22] <zyga> noizer: in the home directory of the ubuntu user
[11:22] <noizer> ooh ok xD
[11:22] <zyga> noizer: refresh bits copies it
[11:23] <noizer> ist need to be in /home/ubuntu?
[11:23] <zyga> noizer: ?
[11:24] <noizer> the snap file to execute ./snap
[11:24] <noizer> on my rpi2
[11:24] <zyga> noizer: if it's not then refresh-bits didn't work
[11:24] <zyga> noizer: read the code of refresh bits
[11:24] <zyga> noizer: it just copies it there
[11:25] <zyga> sudo ./snap experimental add-skill ubuntu-core i2c i2c --label="I2C controller" -a device=i2c-1
[11:26] <zyga> noizer: ^^ this should add the i2c skill to the ubuntu-core snap
[11:26] <zyga> noizer: now you need something that wants to use this skill
[11:26] <zyga> noizer: ping me with more details once you have that
[11:26] <noizer> zyga just it wont copy it http://pastebin.com/Fus2JEH0
[11:28] <zyga> noizer: you have to use --pi2 with other arguments
[11:29] <zyga> noizer: ./refresh-bits.sh --pi2 snap snappy snapd setup run-snapd
[11:29] <zyga> noizer: :)
[11:29] <noizer> haha fail fromme xD
[11:32] <noizer> weird he does not find go
[11:32] <zyga> mvo, fgimenez: do you think that https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/pull/478 failure is related to the change in the branch or is that some kind of fluke
[11:33] <fgimenez> zyga, mvo it seems to be the same as http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15126149/, not related to the changes in the branch IMO
[11:34] <zyga> fgimenez: thanks
[11:34] <mvo> fgimenez: aha, thanks
[11:36] <fgimenez> mvo, zyga i'll try to check if the sync call before installing the snaps mitigates it, otherwise i'm totally lost with this one, no idea where can it come from
[11:38] <zyga> fgimenez: I wonder how two other branches I refreshed at the same time made it
[11:39] <zyga> fgimenez: maybe one of the jenkins slaves is just odd
[11:39] <zyga> fgimenez: integration tests passed elsewhere
[11:39] <noizer> zyga got the following error :s http://pastebin.com/W5QyLwru
[11:40] <fgimenez> zyga, yes it's random, in fact the tests are executed in pristine cloud instances, they should be the same for all the executions, the slaves are not involved in the results once the testbeds are up
[11:40] <zyga> fgimenez: then I have no idea what might be the cause
[11:41] <zyga> noizer: you need to install cross toolchain: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/docs/cross-build.md
[11:41] <zyga> noizer: just the sudo parts there, the rest is handled by the script
[11:41] <fgimenez> zyga, we have also this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/15169442/ which is randomly failing too, maybe they are related, both fail trying to install a snap from the filesystem, one of them doesn't find snap.yaml and the other find it full of '\x00'
[11:43] <zyga> mmmm
[11:43] <zyga> maybe a race that's unfortunate somewhere
[11:43] <zyga> fgimenez: how long have you been seeing those?
[11:44] <fgimenez> zyga, since last thursday i think
[11:57] <beuno> jdstrand, ack, will do
[12:28] <pindonga> jdstrand, hi there.. I'll do the deploy today
[12:30] <noizer> zyga ok everything is done xD
[12:30] <noizer> So now I can acces and read the value of my gpio?
[12:58] <noizer> zyga can i use snapcraft then again for building my snap with you skill?
[13:09] <zyga> noizer: you can build a snap but don't use the skills syntax yet, it's not allowed for now, you can just add the skill (and skill slot) after the snap is installed
[13:09] <zyga> noizer: please look at the bool-file skill
[13:09] <zyga> noizer: snap experimental add-skill
[13:10] <zyga> the skill can live on the ubuntu-core snap, it's not important
[13:10] <zyga> noizer: the skill slot (the thing that actually uses it) needs to be on your snap
[13:10] <zyga> noizer: that's snap experimental add-skill-slot
[13:11] <zyga> noizer: bool-file needs the "path" attribute -a path=/sys/class/gpio/gpio123/value
[13:11] <zyga> noizer: then you need to grant the skill (snap grant)
[13:11] <zyga> noizer: and then snap experimental apply-skill-security
[13:11] <zyga> noizer: then you can inspect the state of the system
[13:11] <zyga> noizer: more in a moment
[14:22] <ysionneau> http://pastebin.com/yPELZ2Bi < any idea why I get an error on this package.yaml?
[14:22] <ysionneau> (I'm using snapcraft 1.0.2, snappy 15.04)
[14:49] <zyga> ysionneau: looks like last line needs to change
[14:50] <zyga> I don't remember the 15.04 syntax though
[14:50] <zyga> look at some examples from snapcraft sources
[14:51] <ysionneau> yes that's what I did
[14:51] <ysionneau> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy-hub/snappy-examples/view/83/hello-world/meta/package.yaml
[14:52] <ysionneau> but, I kind of get it now
[14:52] <ysionneau> those file need to exist before building?
[14:52] <ysionneau> how can I do the same for binaries generated by the build?
[14:53] <zyga> no, they don't have to exist, I think
[14:54] <zyga> ysionneau: notice that there "binaries" is a list of objects
[14:55] <zyga> ysionneau: so try "- hello:\n\tname: hello"
[14:55] <zyga> ysionneau: so that "hello" is the binary
[14:59] <ysionneau> hummm :o
[14:59] <ysionneau> you mean
[15:00] <ysionneau> binaries:\n\tname: hello
[15:00] <ysionneau> ?
[15:01] <zyga> no
[15:01] <zyga> try what I said
[15:01] <zyga> biaries:
[15:01] <zyga>   - hello:
[15:02] <zyga>     name: hello
[15:02] <zyga> (perhaps more indent)
[15:02] <ysionneau> Issues while validating snapcraft.yaml: [{'hello': None, 'name': 'hello'}] is not of type 'object'
[15:02] <zyga> the error you got was essentially that your binary was not a python dict, you have to make the yaml look right, so that each binary is a python dict/javascript/json object
[15:02] <ysionneau> oh
[15:03] <zyga> can you pastebin the snapcraft yaml again
[15:03] <ysionneau> yes
[15:03] <ysionneau> http://pastebin.com/mkU1nFXc
[15:06] <zyga> hmmm
[15:06] <zyga> maybe the syntax changed again, ask sergio when he's around
[15:06] <ysionneau> ack
[15:06] <ysionneau> thanks! :)
[15:06] <zyga> I know how it works in 16.04
[15:06] <zyga> I don't remember 15.04
[15:06] <ysionneau> no problem
[15:06] <zyga> (BTW: Try 16.04 instead if you can)
[15:06] <ysionneau> for now I prefer to stay on 15.04
[15:08] <noizer> zyga I've build my snap again. but now how can i add the skill to it?
[15:09] <zyga> noizer: currently only at runtime, I'm working on reading those from the snap.yaml file
[15:09] <zyga> noizer: have a look at some of my notes for a quick idea:
[15:09] <zyga> # Add skills, grant and apply
[15:09] <zyga> sudo ./snap experimental add-skill ubuntu-core i2c i2c --label="I2C controller" -a device=i2c-1
[15:10] <zyga> sudo ./snap experimental add-skill-slot pi2-piglow i2c i2c --label="I2C controller connected to piglow" --app=foreground --app=background
[15:10] <zyga> sudo ./snap grant ubuntu-core:i2c pi2-piglow:i2c
[15:10] <zyga> sudo ./snap experimental apply-skill-security pi2-piglow
[15:10] <zyga> noizer: this works with this snap: http://github.com/zyga/snappy-pi2-piglow
[15:10] <noizer> ok thx
[15:10] <zyga> noizer: explore each of those commands with --help to understand what's going on
[15:11] <noizer> ok
[15:11] <zyga> noizer: you can also fetch the code of that snap I just linked to, enable classic mode on your pi, install git and snapcraft and build it there
[15:11] <zyga> noizer: the snap is specific to piglow but the parts that deal with i2c are generic
[15:11] <zyga> noizer: and you should be able to see what's going on
[15:12] <zyga> noizer: note that in my branch, skills are not persistent yet so after you reboot the device they are gone
[15:12] <zyga> noizer: but apply-skill-security is persistent
[15:12] <zyga> noizer: though this will all change to just work as soon as some prerequisites land in 16.04
[15:12] <zyga> noizer: so all the hackery won't be needed
[15:13] <noizer> ok first i will try it with my snap ist just checking the value's from the gpio's
[19:00] <jdstrand> sergiusens: hi! I was going to attach a suggested diff to bug #1546821, but see you may be working on it already. here is what I was thinking: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15182501/
[19:00] <jdstrand> sergiusens: adjust as necessary and thanks for working on it
[19:01] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I've got a review tools update that will require squashes be created in this manner that I'll what on until there is a new snapcraft
[19:01] <jdstrand> s/what/wait/
[19:13] <sergiusens> jdstrand, thanks! the -all-root I have been procastinating on, you just pushed me to get it done ;-)
[19:13] <jdstrand> :)
[19:26] <sergiusens> jdstrand, https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/334
[19:32] <jdstrand> thanks
[19:51] <jdstrand> pindonga: hey, so, fyi, r594 and below is ok to pull. r595 you can pull, but the tools will add a 'warn'ing until the machine running the tools has a squashfs-tools that supports -fstime
[19:51] <pindonga> jdstrand, I bumped to 592 today
[19:51] <jdstrand> ok that's fine
[19:51] <pindonga> but deploy didn'th appen yet
[19:52] <pindonga> bc no webops coverage
[19:52] <pindonga> so might happen tomorrow
[19:52] <pindonga> I can bump to 594/5 if you like
[19:52] <jdstrand> pindonga: but that brings up the question-- how do we get an updated squashfs-tools on the system running review tools?
[19:53] <jdstrand> pindonga: (593 and 594 aren't worth an update, they can come with 595+)
[19:53] <pindonga> it should be picked up automatically during the next rollout I believe, bc afaict we don't have it pinned
[19:53] <pindonga> but follow whatever's there in the distro
[19:53] <jdstrand> pindonga: what is that machine running? 14.04?
[19:53] <pindonga> yep
[19:53] <pindonga> and will do so for the foreseeable future
[19:53] <jdstrand> sure
[19:54] <pindonga> :)
[19:54] <jdstrand> pindonga: does it pull from any other sources?
[19:54] <pindonga> deb source?
[19:54] <sergiusens> elopio, you might need to rebase https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/326
[19:54] <jdstrand> trying to decide if I need to do an SRU or if this can be an internal thing
[19:54] <pindonga> jdstrand, I think we can have some cat
[19:54] <pindonga> repo
[19:54] <jdstrand> pindonga: no, like internal IS archives
[19:55] <pindonga> jdstrand, right, so a trusty-cat should work right?
[19:55] <pindonga> jdstrand, let's get 592 out of the way first (bc the changeset is quite big already)
[19:55] <jdstrand> pindonga: that is what I was thinking, but I've not done this sort of thing
[19:55] <jdstrand> pindonga: yes, please push 592 outside of this
[19:55] <pindonga> and then we'll see how to get squashfs-tools updated + newer revnos
[19:55] <pindonga> but I think trusty-cat should work
[19:56] <jdstrand> ok, let me talk to some folks
[19:56] <jdstrand> and I'll see how I can get a trusty-cat going
[20:00] <pindonga> jdstrand, ok, yes, we got trusty-cat available
[20:01] <pindonga> so if you can land there, it should be "easy" to get it installed
[20:01] <jdstrand> ok, thanks. talking to IS
[20:08] <pindonga> jdstrand, which version do we need?
[20:47] <sergiusens> jdstrand, I can swear I saw a comment from you here https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/334
[21:57] <sergiusens> camako, https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1541620/comments/4
[21:57] <sergiusens> camako, sorry for taking so long; but it seems you are just missing a stage-package in there
[21:58] <sergiusens> camako, also, this may mean the server needs a dep against the client-dev
[22:17] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I did make one :)
[22:18] <jdstrand> I don't know where it went...
[22:19] <jdstrand> I re-acked it just now
[22:19] <jdstrand> pindonga: ok, based on conversations with is, I'm pursuing an SRU. I'd probably want to anyway so this seems fastest overall.
[22:20] <jdstrand> pindonga: fyi, bug #1548988


[00:00] <tatertots> FaTaL_G: if your unique use case is NOT dependent on Network Manager, seeing a fail or error related to Network Manager is low/no priority
[00:01] <tatertots> FaTaL_G: so in short..you've got yourself worked up over nothing
[00:06] <heap_> hi. i am trying to setup ipsec tunel but getting error as http://paste.debian.net/1122997/
[00:06] <FaTaL_G> tatertots: is there a simple way to force it to not create those services? I'm not worked up, but when I perform ubuntu updates and overall check in on the box, I look for errors/faults. Thus, this is a distraction I'd prefer to remove.
[00:07] <heap_>  no matching CHILD_SA config found ... any idea what issue it could be?
[00:08] <FaTaL_G> out of sight out of mind -- not waste future brain cells on errors that are of no value. Its a sensible goal I'll eventually achieve
[00:10] <tatertots> FaTaL_G: there may be some way to remove NetworkManager service from lingering after NetworkManager itself has been purged...but the juice probably isn't worth the squeeze, path of least resistance is to ignore it
[00:11] <tatertots> FaTaL_G: the same way a tiger or lion that has just finished eating a big meal might ignore a small easy to catch prey
[00:11] <tatertots> the juice isn't worth the squeeze
[00:13] <tatertots> FaTaL_G: our ot curiosity you installed ubuntu desktop or ubuntu server edition?
[00:14] <tatertots> FaTaL_G: server stock has no network manager
[00:15] <FaTaL_G> lol
[00:15] <tatertots> FaTaL_G: so i'll guess you installed desktop ubuntu and due to some action(s) you took subsequently network managere was uninstalled
[00:15] <FaTaL_G> indeed
[00:15] <tatertots> that's what i figured
[00:15] <FaTaL_G> Yea, I figured when the time comes, Im going to install server
[00:16] <tatertots> no point in changing something that is working as intended
[00:16] <FaTaL_G> thats probably worth more squeeze. Im desiring 19 more so because supposedly it will properly support brcfmmac4366c, but in the meantime, what I have works and I'm still learning
[00:18] <joules> hi, is anyone aware with issues with opencl and multiple cards? I installed with opencl=legacy,pal but only one or the other is available? (pal works with vega legacy works with rx580). Is it known that you can't use both?
[00:21] <tatertots> joules: yes
[00:22] <joules> tatertots: thanks!
[00:28] <c0nker> just tried the Ubuntu 19.xx ISO, Ubuntu Disk creator'd it and mkusb'd it, tried all USB ports. Gonna try a new USB I bought
[00:29] <c0nker> (didnt work)
[00:30] <joules> tatertots: is there any links to that infomation that I can read? I get conflicting answers, that it should work.
[00:36] <tatertots> joules: i'll see if i can find some links..in mean time observe the output of xrandr command...like OpenGL ...even if a system has 2x i.e intel graphics and a Nvidia/AMD card 2x GPU's there will only be ONE 1x OpenGL "renderer".
[00:37] <tatertots> joules: OpenCL will have a "renderer"
[00:37] <joules> tatertots: I couldn't find much at all, except this one post https://devtalk.blender.org/t/unable-to-have-two-gpus-rx-5700-xt-rx-580-recognized-by-blender-simultaneously/10278/4
[00:38] <tatertots> joules: i'll try to find some link for you but guys that have been around this stuff for some time know it's just the way it is
[00:38] <tatertots> it is what it is
[00:39] <joules> problem is Jeroen is the AMD dev for blender.
[00:39] <jeremy31> They are what we thought they were
[00:39] <tatertots> lol
[00:39] <joules> trust me i want you to be right tatertots then I'll sell this RX580
[00:40] <tatertots> joules: oops i didn't mean xrandr...
[00:40] <joules> this is opencl dude
[00:40] <joules> i don't muck about just got 18.04 and hwe and amdgpu-pro drivers. sticking with AMDs "requirements" :/
[00:41] <tatertots> joules: i meant to type glxinfo|grep nGL
[00:41] <tatertots> joules: that's where you'll see ONE 1x renderer even in a multi GPU system
[00:41] <joules> clinfo sees both but mesas opencl implementation is incomplete.
[00:41] <joules> nah I have both man.
[00:42] <joules> this is openCL not GL :D
[00:42] <tatertots> joules: run> clinfo|nc termbin.com 9999
[00:42] <tatertots> joules: share url/link here
[00:42] <tatertots> joules: i want to see these two "declared" "renderers" you speak of
[00:43] <joules> yeah that's the mesa clinfo it shows both. just not the amdgpu-pro drivers.
[00:43] <tatertots> show it
[00:43] <joules> joules@joules-X8DAH:/home/julian$ clinfo
[00:43] <joules> Number of platforms                               2y
[00:43] <joules> 2
[00:43] <joules> :DS
[00:44] <joules> clinfo from amd (/opt/amdgpu-pro/bin/clinfo) shows 1 but anyhow nvm.
[00:44] <tatertots> clinfo from AMD shows ONE...that's what i would expect
[00:45] <tatertots> as it must be "declared" and it's first come first served
[00:45] <joules> dunno, just need some proper confirmation
[00:45] <joules> dude your gunna trip my "doesn't know what he's talking about" wire soon.
[00:46] <tatertots> lol..that's fine..i've used this tatertots name on IRC for years
[00:46] <tatertots> lol
[00:47] <tatertots> so long that people would laugh if you went around saying that after your wire was "tripped"
[00:48] <c0nker> k it finally works, just gotta check everything works, thanks for the help
[00:49] <otrenav> Hi. I'm exploring Ubuntu 19.10 with a fresh install and I'm tying to setup the gTile extension. I noticed that Ubuntu/something is receiving some keybindings before they reach gTile so I can't assign them within gTile. I've customized all available keybindings in the settings for the keyboard but can't find the ones I want gTile used. Is there an a list I can consult with all default keybindings in Ubuntu? I can't find what's taking the combo I want to
[00:49] <otrenav> use (C-M-S-<right>).
[01:43] <joules> what's the best supported kernel for amdgpu-pro drivers (yes I need opencl proversion from AMD).
[02:25] <joules> hi what xorg xserver-video driver do I need for vega?
[02:34] <joules> and to completely purge hwe cancer from my system.
[02:34] <joules> :D
[02:34] <joules> i did "apt remove ".*hwe*" but there's something hanging that pulls the rest in :/ (xorg)
[02:42] <Bashing-om> joules: A bit involved to revert: run: "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-input-all libwayland-egl1-mesa "; And then clean up :  "sudo apt purge linux-generic-lts-bionic xserver-xorg-core-lts-bionic xserver-xorg-lts-bionic xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-bionic xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-bionic
[02:42] <Bashing-om> libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-bionic".
[02:46] <joules> cool thanks.
[02:50] <Bashing-om> joules: ^^ that is supposing that you are running 18.04 :D
[02:50] <joules> yeap ;)
[02:51] <joules> need to get back to basic then try one more time with this opencl stuff then give up.
[03:26] <joules> hi, trying to start xorg, but its looking for drivers with "driver" however packages and search and actual directory has "driver_dri" is there a package configure option anyone knows about? rather not have to make symlinks myself if possible.
[03:32] <joules> nvm broken symlinks to amdgpu-pro hanging about :/
[04:00] <vfbsilva> guys can I have a small help regarding the install? I dont get the uefi naming on ubuntu
[04:00] <tomreyn> vfbsilva: uefi naming? whats unclear, whats not working as expected (what did you expect), how is it actually working)?
[04:01] <vfbsilva> tomreyn: im uploading a pic sec
[04:04] <vfbsilva> tomreyn: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPfrMSkqo59KiklTgDiMRmaaysyHXwJ6QfCkYpHUt55y0VAfVUf-h3oBaS1s8m0mQ?key=VnNhVWdFaWdDV2R0cTR4U0QzUUw1YWhPaEQ4OTNR
[04:04] <vfbsilva> so is uefi setup on sda5?
[04:04] <tomreyn> sda2 is the efi system partition
[04:05] <vfbsilva> okay so should /boot be on sda2?
[04:05] <tomreyn> this is where all operating systems should place their boot loader and the mainboard firmware (the UEFI) will load it from (if it's the first efi system partition (ESP) it finds across all disks)
[04:06] <vfbsilva> cause in manjaro I have a /boot/uefi partition
[04:06] <tomreyn> grub will place its first part on the ESP, then load the rest from sda5
[04:07] <tomreyn> sda2 will become /boot/efi/ on the final system
[04:07] <tomreyn> sda5 will become /boot
[04:07] <vfbsilva> okay
[04:07] <vfbsilva> tomreyn: thanks a lot
[04:08] <tomreyn> vfbsilva: you're welcome.
[04:09] <tomreyn> vfbsilva: oh the boot loader target option you have there on the bottom should probably still point to sda5
[04:10] <vfbsilva> it does
[04:10] <tomreyn> this is probably correct, i think grub realizes there is an ESP at sda2 automatically and places its first part there.
[04:10] <tomreyn> ok
[04:16] <vfbsilva> tomreyn: everything worked thanks a alot
[04:43] <lhuf> Hello
[04:49] <lhuf> Anyone here
[04:53] <tomreyn> hi lhuf, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[04:53] <lhuf> Yes
[04:53] <tomreyn> !ask
[04:55] <lhuf> I am trying to install ubuntu on my alienware r4 but the installer freezes randomly after a certain amount of time and then shows this error: tpm_crb MSFT0101:00 [Firmware bug]: ACPI region does not cover tsponse buffer
[04:56] <tomreyn> have you done a bios update recently?
[04:57] <lhuf> About 2 weeks ago yes
[04:57] <tomreyn> as the message states, this is likely caused by a bios bug
[04:58] <tomreyn> it may be possible to work around it, though. which ubuntu version are you trying to install there?
[04:58] <lhuf> 18.04 lts
[04:59] <tomreyn> 18.04.0 or .1 or .2 or .3, do you know?
[04:59] <lhuf> Erm 18.04.3
[05:00] <tomreyn> you can probably work aorund this by booting with the    pcie_aspm=off   kernel parameter
[05:00] <tomreyn> !kernelparm
[05:01] <lhuf> So if I am trying to install this how would I do this? As if I hit try ubuntu before installing it still crashes after less than a minute
[05:04] <tomreyn> lhuf: did you read the link ubottu posted, yet?
[05:04] <tomreyn> you asked less than a minute after it was posted, so i assume you did not?
[05:05] <lhuf> Ohh so I can do this while its booting I see, should i do the temporary one?
[05:05] <tomreyn> lhuf: yes
[05:05] <lhuf> Thank you
[05:06] <tomreyn> you're welcome, let me know how it worked
[05:12] <tomreyn> lhuf: if this issue persists after installation (i.e. on the installed system, even after it was fully updated AND rebooted), you may want to check whether you can disable the TPM (sometimes called "fTPM") on your UEFI / BIOS configuration screens.
[05:13] <tomreyn> only if that's not available there you should permanently configure the     pcie_aspm=off    kernel parameter as discussed on the wiki link above.
[05:15] <happyamos> Hello
[05:16] <tomreyn> hi happyamos, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[05:16] <happyamos> Nope, just confirming my login works
[05:17] <tomreyn> cool. you can use the /ping IRC command also for this purpose.
[05:17] <happyamos> Cool, thanks :)
[05:17] <lhuf> So I entered the command you said on gnu grub then hit ctrl x and nothing happened
[05:18] <lhuf> Also my grub just says grub> it doesn't have any of the other areas like the images in the explanation you also linked to
[05:19] <tomreyn> this is a grub CLI, which shows when you hit escape twice. you can return to the grub menu where you can edit those records by typing "menu" i think
[05:20] <tomreyn> hmm no it's not "menu"
[05:21] <tomreyn> type "exit" or "normal", then hit escape again
[05:21] <tomreyn> in quick succession
[05:24] <tomreyn> lhuf: does this help?
[05:26] <lhuf> Still crashed :( after the word splash there were three - and I entered my parameter after this, should I have put it before?
[05:31] <tomreyn> lhuf: yes, you need to put it before the three dashes
[05:31] <lhuf> I will try this
[05:34] <lhuf> Damn still not working
[05:35] <tomreyn> lhuf: can you check whether you have the "(f)TPM" option on the bios / UEFI configuration screens? maybe that's easier
[05:36] <tomreyn> the goal would be to disable this device.
[05:36] <tomreyn> alternatively, if you would like to continue trying with the     pcie_aspm=off    option, please take and upload a screen shot after entering it on the grub menu
[05:37] <lhuf> I think I tried this earlier but will try again, there is a tpm option in security
[05:37] <tomreyn> (and before hitting enter)
[05:37] <tomreyn> also, if you can tell the exact Alienware R4 model you have there, maybe we can find a better workaround.
[05:38] <lhuf> I will make a screenshot now
[05:38] <lhuf> https://laptopmedia.com/laptop-specs/alienware-17-r4-4/
[05:42] <lhuf> And here is the ss: https://ibb.co/dLkQ8dk
[05:44] <tomreyn> lhuf: yes this looks fine. have you tried this with the opther menu option, "Install Ubuntu (now)"?
[05:45] <tomreyn> the one you're trying to edit there now is the option where ubuntu boots into the live mode
[05:45] <lhuf> Ok I will try that now
[05:45] <tomreyn> but you'll still need the parameter there
[05:45] <tomreyn> also add "nomodeset"
[05:46] <lhuf> So just do a space and add that
[05:46] <tomreyn> yes
[05:46] <tomreyn> ... quiet splash pcie_aspm=off nomodeset ---
[05:48] <lhuf> I have gotten further than ever
[05:49] <tomreyn> so where di you get to, the installer?
[05:49] <lhuf> It seems to be working I am currently selecting install alongside windows
[05:49] <tomreyn> this is the latest firmware by the way: https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=rytgt&oscode=wt64a&productcode=alienware-17-laptop
[05:50] <tomreyn> unfortunately gaming laptops are often problematic.
[05:58] <lhuf> Hopefully this works once installed but I am now having some issues with partitioning my ssd as that is where windows is installed and I dont want to copy over it
[05:59] <tomreyn> if you do auto partitioning with the "insatall alongside windows" option then the windows partition should get shrinked so there's be enough space to install ubuntu
[06:00] <tomreyn> if you prefer amnual partitioning and have questions about it, just post another screen
[06:00] <tomreyn> …shot
[06:07] <lhuf> Hello I disconnected
[06:07] <tomreyn> wb
[06:08] <lhuf> I was just wondering when I select the ssd that also has my windows on does ubuntu automatically partition it or what?
 if you do auto partitioning with the "insatall alongside windows" option then the windows partition should get shrinked so there's be enough space to install ubuntu
 if you prefer manual partitioning and have questions about it, just post another screen shot
[06:11] <lhuf> Sorry for my lack of knowledge haha I will now
[06:13] <tomreyn> that's fine, it's not something you can know without reading the manual, i think
[06:13] <lhuf> https://ibb.co/YWX2X4d this ssd is where I want ubuntu to be with about 30gb
[06:14] <lhuf> Unless there is a way to use the ssd for the os and my hdd for files etc
[06:17] <tomreyn> lhuf: hmm i think for custom partitioning you'd actually need to do the partitioning outside of the installer if you want to install alongside windows. but i'm not entirely sure - i don't do windows nor multi-boot (it's just too much fiddling, amongst other)
[06:17] <tomreyn> maybe you can use "change" on the partition that is selected and resize it?
[06:19] <lhuf> Ok but if I just select the ssd it will never write over windows right?
[06:20] <tomreyn> and yes there is a way to use the ssd for the OS and a separate hdd for files
[06:21] <tomreyn> i assume this system ir running in uefi mode, and windows was installed in uefi mode, too. if so, ubuntu's grub will be written to nvme0n1p1, the "efi" type partition
[06:22] <tomreyn> that's independeant of which disk you install the rest of ubuntu to
[06:22] <tomreyn> windows should never get overwritten, but when you do anything like partition changes you must ensure you have complete and reliably restorable and current backups
[06:28] <lhuf> Ok well I'm installing so thanks so much for your help... do you think that once its installed it will work without parameters?
[06:30] <tomreyn> lhuf: hard to tell. you may still need to use these parameters during the first boot from hard disk, maybe will have to keep using the pcie_aspm=off one all time. but i recommend you start with none, see how far you can get, then only add these parameters as needed, and one by one, like you did before.
[06:31] <tomreyn> and repeat this after installing all the updates that are available (running "sudo apt update" on a temrinal should report that no updates available in the end), and rebooting.
[06:32] <tomreyn> that's when you'll have all the Os updates installed (which may contain newer workarounds for the buggy bios)
[06:32] <tomreyn> the "nomodeset" parameter should not be needed once you installed the nvidia proprietary drivers, which the installer should already be doing.
[06:32] <tomreyn> (unless oyu choose not to)
[06:34] <lhuf> Seems to be working just fine
[06:35] <lhuf> Honestly thanks man you have been apart of helping kickstart my journey of web development
[06:35] <lhuf> 😂😂
[06:35] <tomreyn> :) good luck there, enjoy your new system.
[06:37] <martiansoul67> i have a remote machine that I've been given access to. I've got the access of only its vscode. I want to download the source code of a repository on my home computer, is there any way I can do so?
[06:37] <lhuf> Oh lol and now its crashed ahaha
[06:37] <lhuf> After enabling livepatch
[06:39] <martiansoul67> lhuf livepatch?
[06:40] <tomreyn> lhuf: post a full system journal after rebooting:  journalctl -b -1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:41] <tomreyn> martiansoul67: what are this remote computer and your home computer running, and how are they related / linked, i.e. how does it matter that the remote one runs something for when you want to download somethjing to your (laocal, i guess) home computer?
[06:43] <tomreyn> martiansoul67: when i say "what are [these compuiters] running" i mean their operating systems.
[06:45] <martiansoul67> I'm not sure, what's the remote machine running.
[06:46] <martiansoul67> I am participating in a sort of workshop, where in Chrome, at port 8080, I can access the VSCode of the remote server.
[06:46] <martiansoul67> and that workshop ends in around 12 hours.
[06:46] <martiansoul67> So, I want to get all my code.
[06:47] <lhuf> Termbin.com/7tm6
[06:47] <lhuf> I'm doing the update command now
[06:47] <martiansoul67> tomreyn, this is the context.
[06:54] <tomreyn> martiansoul67: okay, and which of these systems runs ubuntu?
[06:54] <tomreyn> lhuf: good, keep the updates coming. i'll have a look at the log now. to get my attention, type "tomreyn" here
[06:55] <martiansoul67> tomreyn, my system.
[06:56] <tomreyn> martiansoul67: which protocol do you use to access remotely?
[06:57] <martiansoul67> tomreyn, and most likely the remote server is an AWS or something like that. I'm connecting over http
[06:58] <tomreyn> martiansoul67: so just http, not webdav or something? then what you can do remotely depends on what the web application or web server enables you to access. that's not really something we can help with here.
[06:59] <martiansoul67> tomreyn, not familiar with webdav.
[07:00] <lhuf> Tomreyn all updates done and those crashes seemed to just be todo with monitoring hardware because it happened for the livepatch and for sending my PC info for development weird
[07:01] <tomreyn> lhuf: what was the crash like? did the entire computer freeze, did a single application fail (and print an error message)?
[07:02] <tomreyn> and how did you recover from it
[07:02] <tomreyn> "crash" can mean so many things.
[07:02] <lhuf> The whole computer crashed sorry
[07:03] <lhuf> And I had to hold power button to turn off
[07:03] <tomreyn> !sysrq
[07:03] <tomreyn> try this next time
[07:03] <tomreyn> and before you do this, try this:
[07:03] <tomreyn> !tty
[07:04] <tomreyn> either way, this should not be happening, you will need to spend more time on working out how to prevent it.
[07:04] <The_Fly> hi, i have an issue, i set X11 to use a separate Screen for my HMD diplay, now when i try to maximise a window it takes up both monitors and doesn't display the application menus and close,minimize,maximise buttons on the top bar/panel... couldn't find any solutions to this with a google
[07:07] <tomreyn> lhuf: see above. also, reviewing your logs, i see more and more reports on BIOS bugs. :-/ something you can do in this case is to have linux pretend it was windows, which can help since many computers (firmwares in this case) are only really tested (and customized to work) with windows.
[07:08] <lhuf> Ok
[07:08] <tomreyn> lhuf: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[07:19] <DarkTrick> Hello, I have a rather general question. I'm not sure if this is the right place.
[07:20] <DarkTrick> Regarding the implemenation of hibernation
[07:21] <DarkTrick> Why would a hibernation feature care about ACPI? / Why would hibernation care about hardware?
[07:21] <EriC^^> DarkTrick: hibernation involves power stuff, why wouldnt it
[07:22] <DarkTrick> Couldn't it be simply implemented as 1) freeze everything 2) "save everything to disk" 3) Shut down computer as always 4) When the computer starts, it simply checks if there is a "RAM-file" 5) if yes, load it into RAM, unfreeze everything and go
[07:23] <EriC^^> DarkTrick: what's the problem you're having?
[07:24] <DarkTrick> EriC^^, Hibernation seems to work differently well on Win and Ubuntu. From earlier discussions I heard it's a "hardware support thing" or a "ACPI thing"
[07:25] <EriC^^> DarkTrick: no worries, you can use the acpi_osi parameter in grub to sort that out usually
[07:25] <DarkTrick> I'd like to understand the point where my "easy implementation" (above) does not work anymore
[07:25] <EriC^^> DarkTrick: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[07:27] <DarkTrick> EriC^^, The title already is already "beyond" the point of my question.
[07:27] <EriC^^> DarkTrick: alright
[07:27] <DarkTrick> EriC^^, Basically I don't understand why hibernating  should be different to a usual shutdown
[07:28] <EriC^^> so you plan to rewrite the hibernation feature
[07:28] <DarkTrick> EriC^^: Not at this point
[07:29] <DarkTrick> My question is more of a "I'd like to have an idea of what's the actual problem"
[07:29] <DarkTrick> instead of "I want to solve this exact problem on my machine"
[07:32] <tomreyn> it seems this is outside of ubuntu support, it's more about discussing technical concepts than of a support question. maybe ##linux is a better place, or ##acpi if it exists.
[07:32] <tomreyn> this is what ubuntu uses (though earlier versions probably): https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/HEAD/src/sleep/sleep.c
[07:33] <tomreyn> you can look for more suitable IRC channels using !alis
[07:34] <tomreyn> lhuf: looks like someone else suffered from the same system and its bios bugs: https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware/AW17r5-BIOS-Issues/td-p/7391290
[07:35] <lhuf> Hopefully Dell sort It
[07:35] <lhuf> System settings isn't working for me even after trying the shell script but hey ho
[07:36] <tomreyn> "System settings"? what do you mean?
[07:38] <DarkTrick> tomreyn, thank you for you pointer!
[07:38] <lhuf> The spanner and screwdriver on top right drop down.. preferences?
[07:39] <tomreyn> lhuf: the settings application is somehow not working as expected. what is not working as expected?
[07:39] <tomreyn> how is this related to a shell script?
[07:40] <lhuf> Oh the link you sent about making it think its windows has a shell script that does it for you
[07:40] <tomreyn> lhuf: yes, it allows you to stage changes to how you boot which are applied on the next boot. did you reboot after this?
[07:40] <lhuf> Yes
[07:41] <tomreyn> lhuf: can you post another log with this change set?   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:44] <lhuf> Omg I think it worked
[07:45] <lhuf> Termbin.com/sqtv
[07:45] <lhuf> I changed the code to 2017 but before I changed the wrong bit to 2017 I changed the if statement that checks if it has already been changed instead
[07:48] <lhuf> Webcam and setting are now working which weren't before
[07:49] <tomreyn> lhuf: i think there were some mistakes during editing the boot parameters. the log you posted has this:     ...ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" acpi_osi=! acpi_osi= quiet...   while it hsould just have this:    ...ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" quiet...
[07:50] <tomreyn> lhuf: "Windows 2017" could only work if the commands given on the article actually reported this as a possible value.
[07:50] <lhuf> Wait but it's working now
[07:50] <lhuf> Oh I looked up what windows 10 is known as on Microsoft site and it said windows 2017
[07:52] <tomreyn> does this return "Windows 2017" though? sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i 'windows ' | sort
[07:53] <tomreyn> there can be other reasons why "it" is working now after you rebooted. a microcode update was also loaded (though this should not affect the webcam, but i'm not sure what other changes you saw).
[07:54] <lhuf> Oh no it doesn't
[07:54] <lhuf> So what should I do now sorry I'm lost again
[07:54] <tomreyn> you can use     gedit admin:///etc/default/grub    to edit the configuration file where the acpi_osi parameters are set.
[07:55] <tomreyn> after editing, you will need to also run    sudo update-grub    and reboot the system.
[07:56] <tomreyn> if setting     ...ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" quiet...    makes "it" worse again, you can try to just set it to     ...ro acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=  quiet...    which is probably what you effectively had by the time you created this latest log file
[08:01] <tomreyn> lhuf: on both logs you're using the "nouveau" open source graphics driver. this is a limited feature (and lower performance) driver compared to the proprietary "nvidia" graphics driver, which is also available. have you chosen not to install it?
[08:07] <lhuf> Terminal said  /etc/default/grub: quiet... not found
[08:07] <lhuf> And no I did not choose not to
[08:08] <tomreyn> lhuf: what is it that you had typed on the terminal when it said this?
[08:09] <lhuf> Sudo update-grub
[08:17] <lhuf> Sorry forgot to ping tomreyn
[08:17] <tomreyn> lhuf: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:18] <lhuf> Termbin.com/b7nb
[08:19] <tomreyn> lhuf: oh, looks like you took what i wrote verbatim
[08:19] <tomreyn> those "..." were emant to say "here starts/end this sequence"
[08:19] <lhuf> Oh what should be different soz
[08:20] <tomreyn> i should be able to tell you in a minute
[08:21] <lhuf> I removed the ... and it says same thing I only kept them because something underneath has ... after so thought it needed it haha
[08:22] <tomreyn> lhuf: so run     gedit admin:///etc/default/grub    again and replace this line:     GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015" quiet ...     by (exactly, please double check) this:     GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\""
[08:23] <tomreyn> lhuf: once that is done, share it again using     cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999     and run     sudo update-grub     agin
[08:23] <tomreyn> *again
[08:25] <lhuf> Tomreyn termbin.com/ve0y
[08:26] <tomreyn> lhuf: not exact (one extra space) but good enough. :)   only after all of the above is done (sudo update-grub, right), but before you reboot, run     software-properties-gtk --open-tab 4     and enable the nvidia drivers.
[08:28]  * jesopo ubuntu noises
[08:28] <lhuf> Gives me three options two proprietary and one older but proprietary tested I'm guessing I should use that one right tomreyn
[08:29] <tomreyn> lhuf: you can try those one by one, see which one works best.
[08:30] <tomreyn> you'll have to reboot each time, though
[08:30] <tomreyn> i.e. i'm not sure which one is the best option
[08:32] <tomreyn> your graphics card (PCI ID 10de:1c20) is an Nvidia GTX 1060 (Mobile)
[08:32] <tomreyn> nvidia.com will have some form of documentation on which driver is recommended for this
[08:33] <lhuf> All seems to be working well after reboot
[08:36] <tomreyn> nice, post another log if you like
[08:36] <tomreyn> journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:37] <tomreyn> lhuf: ^
[08:38] <lhuf> Termbin.com/e3zb
[08:41] <tomreyn> yes this looks almost not entirely bad now
[08:43] <lhuf> Awesome man thank you :):)
[08:43] <tomreyn> you should now have some nvidia-settings (or similar) application which you can use to configure the graphics
[08:45] <tomreyn> there are still rather serious problems, but this is probably as good as it gets with this bios
[08:47] <tomreyn> lhuf: ^ this and: you could try a newer kernel version, there's a chance it has better workarounds. i.e.       sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-18.04-edge
[08:48] <lhuf> Should I do that now then?
[08:48] <tomreyn> i would, but this is your computer. ;)
[08:50] <lhuf> Done
[08:50] <lhuf> Does it require another restart
[08:50] <tomreyn> yes
[08:52] <tomreyn> also note that canonical-livepatch is not properly configured on your system (or wasn't when you created the latest log). You would need to run      canonical-livepatch enable      but it may not actually work with the newer kernel I just suggested to install.
[08:54] <lhuf> Ye said permission denied
[08:59] <lhuf> Is it even needed tomreyn
[09:02] <tomreyn> lhuf: you decide on this
[09:02] <tomreyn> !livepatch
[09:02] <tomreyn> it is not strictly required, no.
[09:05] <tomreyn> lhuf: "permission denied" means the user you ran something as does not have the privileges that are required to run something. (only) if you think the command you were trying to run is safe to run as root, you can run it again, prefixed with "sudo"
[09:05] <tomreyn> !sudo
[09:05] <tomreyn> so in this case you'd run     sudo canonical-livepatch enable
[09:07] <lhuf> No key provided
[09:08] <DarkTrick> A: @pdflatex: Anyone here who knows how to make pdflatex to support UTF-8? (standard installation under ubuntu; that's why I ask here)
[09:09] <DarkTrick> A: \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} does not work. Maybe something is missing from the installation?
[09:10] <tomreyn> lhuf: you'll need to get an api key from canonical to use it (free for personal use). read its docoumentation for more info
[09:36] <Guest_86> Hi everyone
[09:37] <tomreyn> hello Guest_86
[09:38] <mohnish> Hello everyone! I need help with Ubuntu MATE 19.10. I'm trying to setup bluetooth, but my phone won't detect my pc, and my pc won't detect my phone
[09:39] <mohnish> I opened "Bluetooth Adapters" from the menu and set it to "Always visible" and then closed it. But, when I open it again, it's selected to "Hidden"
[09:40] <tomreyn> does     rfkill list    say that something is (hard or soft) blocked?
[09:41] <mohnish> I tired that, and it's not blocked
[09:41] <mohnish> neither soft nor hard
[09:41] <mohnish> And, when I press search in "Bluetooth Devices" it gives this error: https://pasteboard.co/INtsyVD.png
[09:42] <tomreyn> ok, then it's going to be bluetooth specific which i have almost no clue of
[09:42] <mohnish> oh
[09:43] <mohnish> But, it works in other distro (Linux Mint installed in my other hard drive)
[09:43] <tomreyn> !bluetooth
[09:43] <Guest_86> I am having some issues trying to switch my desktop environment and I thought this might be the place to ask. I want to set a script to control the brightness of my monitor and the keyboard backlight but I cannot seem to figure out how to. For brightness I found you can set a value in /sys/class/backlight since xbacklight seems to produce no
[09:43] <Guest_86> change, but for keyboard I have no idea what's going on. Works out of the box in gnome but I have no idea how they manage it.
[09:44] <Guest_86> running dbus-monitor in termnial shows that they send some events for the brightness control but nothing shows up when I use the combination for keyboard backlight
[11:00] <N0Lif3> can the date and time be moved to the right without addons/extensions?
[11:21] <zaccishere> Hi, I recently updated my 18.04 LTS and after rebooting the touchpad wouldn't work. Any help would be appreciated thanks!
[11:41] <zaccishere> Reverted to a previous kernel and now it works again!
[12:05] <EmmaT> i am trying to install an old specific versoin of a package
[12:05] <EmmaT> command that was run was: sudo ap-get install tvheadend in 2018.01.01 ... i would like the version of around that time
[12:06] <EmmaT> i am now getting the latest version which is not desired
[12:06] <EmmaT> http://ppa.launchpad.net/mamarley/tvheadend-git-stable/ubuntu/dists/xenial/
[12:06] <EmmaT> i am not sure how to find the old version
[12:06] <EmmaT> seems to only be on there\
[12:26] <EriC^^> EmmaT: maybe you can use the apt logs to get which was installed
[12:26] <EriC^^> /var/log/apt/history*
[12:51] <mati> Hi, I'm looking for a program that can periodically update the command output in the terminal. For example, I want to run a commands "sensors" and want the output to be updated every 10 seconds. How can I do that?
[12:52] <cipher45> Something like 'watch' maybe? https://linuxize.com/post/linux-watch-command/
[12:53] <cipher45> mati^^
[12:54] <mati> cipher45: that's exactly what i've been looking for, cheers!
[13:01] <Seveas> EmmaT: as long as you have a repository that has the older version, you can install it with apt-get install tvheadend=your_version_here
[13:09] <adrian_1908> Hello. I installed a deb package (fontconfig-2.13) due to issues with 2.12. This now throws an error when doing `apt install <any_package>`, so very hampering. What's the best way to revert to 2.12?
[13:13] <adrian_1908> Fixed: I simply downloaded the deb from https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amd64/fontconfig/download and `sudo dpkg -i fontconfig-2.12…`
[13:39] <acesistv> Hello everyone
[13:51] <trupsalms> how can i run a script after scl enable python27 bash since it invokes a new cmdline trm?
[14:01] <cyber37> Hi,
[14:02] <cyber37> I have a problem, i don't know if it's after an update or what. When i want to open a RTSP stream in vlc it fails, i don't have any details on the console (even with -vv arg). it just says "check the log for more details" but i don't know witch logs...
[14:03] <cyber37> I can open my rtsp stream with mplayer but not with VLC, and i need it working with VLC because i also use the library "libVLC" for another software (that i made) to watch my cctv cameras. So as libVLC has a problem, my software cant watch the cameras and VLC can't too.
[14:04] <cyber37> It's not stream problem because with mplayer it works. Did someone know where VLC logs are ? And if 3.0.8 is recent in ubuntu deps ?
[14:05] <cyber37> How to know when a packet has been upgraded in ubuntu deps ?
[14:07] <Bundestrojaner> Hello. I'm trying to scan with a quite old Brother DCP-8020 on Kubuntu 1804 LTS and get strange results:
[14:07] <Bundestrojaner> lsusb says: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04f9:0140 Brother Industries, Ltd DCP-8020
[14:07] <Bundestrojaner> sane-find-scanner says: found USB scanner (vendor=0x04f9, product=0x0140) at libusb:001:004
[14:07] <Bundestrojaner> sudo scanimage -L says: No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,  ...
[14:17] <ducasse> Bundestrojaner: why are you running scanimage with sudo?
[14:18] <Bundestrojaner> ducasse: to exclude permission problems during testing
[14:19] <ducasse> add your user to the scanner group, and there shouldn't be any
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:21] <Bundestrojaner> ducasse: already done. i've tried it without sudo at first.
[14:24] <Bundestrojaner> rebooting, brb
[14:29] <ducasse> Bundestrojaner: if you don't get any response here, try #sane
[14:29] <Bundestrojaner> ducasse: thx, i've asked there parallel. it seems they are all afk :(
[14:30] <ducasse> it's a small channel, might be quiet on weekends
[14:32] <ru^2> hello
[14:32] <Bundestrojaner> one aditional thing: On the old pc with kubuntu1604, the scanner perfectly worked. When i tried it on this new machine with kubuntu1804 ~2 years ago, the scanner was recogniced but scanning delifered an "invalid argument"-error - which is a known problem with old brother scanners and xhci (usb3, this machine has usb3 only) so i could not solve it.
[14:32] <Bundestrojaner> Now, the scanner is not even recognized...
[14:52] <ru^2> any body know how to remove the on screen keyboard at lock screen ?? i have to use the extension block-caribou to prevent this on screen keyboard to show up when clicking on window with my touchscreen. in the universal acess setting the onscreen is off, org.gnome.desktop.screensaver embedded-keyboard-enabled is set on false... I don't know what to do with that ugly keyboard :\
[14:55] <Skyrider> ru^2: That includes the onboard preferences show onboard when unlocking the screen?
[14:56] <H2Q> hello, how can I make thumbnails resolve enough to be viewable?
[14:56] <H2Q> I tried with dconf-editor but couldn''t make them larger
[14:56] <ru^2> i dont have onboard installed, i tried to install it and change this setting, did nothing
[14:57] <ru^2> Skyrider:
[14:58] <tomreyn> hmm, how can the virtual keybooard show if you don't have it installed?    sudo apt purge --autoremove onboard onboard-common onboard-data
[15:01] <ru^2> ok onboard was apparently installed
[15:01] <ru^2> but the keyboard continue to show up on lock screen
[15:02] <ru^2> i will try a reboot..
[15:02] <ru^2> i reboot
[15:05] <ru^2> did nothing, the onscreen is always here, :\
[15:07] <ru^2> tomreyn:
[15:10] <Skyrider> Did you do what Tomr suggested?
[15:11] <ru^2> yes onboard was removed but i think the keyboard who is showing up is not onboard
[15:11] <tomreyn> ru^2: hmm, okay, sorry then. i wasn't aware there's another. are you using gdm3 though?
[15:13] <ru^2> yes im using ubuntu 19.10
[15:15] <ru^2> ok i found a workaround installing onboard integration extension and reinstalling onboard ^^
[15:15] <ru^2> tomreyn:
[15:16] <tomreyn> glad you found a solution which works for you!
[15:20] <ru^2> tomreyn: now i deinstall onboard and onboard integration extension, and the onscreen keyboard disapeared strange thanks
[15:23] <akemhp> Hey.
[15:24] <akemhp> Is Thunar file manager stable? Cause i like Nemo a lot but it's very unstable, often crashing for no reason...
[15:25] <akemhp> (I don't like Nautilus they removed the address bar, we can't directly see the number of files etc)
[15:28] <Skyrider> Wouldn't it be easier to try it? ^^
[15:29] <OerHeks> why would nemo be unstable?
[15:29] <akemhp> I installed it, i'll use it and see OFC.
[15:29] <akemhp> OerHeks, It's unstable on my 18.04s, on 2 computers.
[15:30] <akemhp> Crash for no apparent reason while using it, or copying stuff.
[15:34] <tomreyn> file a bug about it if there's none, yet, that's how you get a chance to see it solved.
[15:36] <tomreyn> ctrl-l still gets you the location bar on gnome files (the artist formerly known as nautilus)
[15:40] <akemhp> tomreyn, Yeah, i know there are ways, i just don't like their choices.
[15:56] <CarlenWhite> Noticing that my laptop is doing a lot of AP disconnects and reconnects.
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> can you give us some more details CarlenWhite
[15:57] <CarlenWhite> I'm watching it for a moment so I can understand what's happening, but it looks like it cannot make up it's mind on which AP it wants to use. Both APs are named the same.
[15:58] <CarlenWhite> I'm using dmesg output by the way.
[15:58] <CarlenWhite> Got a chunk. Scrubbing and pasting.
[16:00] <CarlenWhite> https://pastebin.com/bmjLRuif
[16:01] <CarlenWhite> So it seems like it's connecting to B, then looses connection, then returns back to A.
[16:01] <CarlenWhite> But it's doing this frequently.
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: ubuntu version, kernel version and network card chipset would also be handy
[16:03] <CarlenWhite> Ubuntu 19.10, 5.0.21-050021-generic, Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8822BE 802.11a/b/g/n/ac
[16:04] <CarlenWhite> Purposefully back a few kernel versions due to issues.
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: meaning you encounter the same AP issues with current 19.10 kernel?
[16:05] <CarlenWhite> Issues irrelevant to WiFi.
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: so your wifi works great on  <IP_ADDRESS>.28 ?
[16:07] <CarlenWhite> I can try but it requires me investigating another issue to fix some AMDGPU weirdness.
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: the main purpose is to make your system work on the current kernel right, going back to older kernels should be for testing purposes
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: we would also apreciate to mention 'details' like that in your original questions in the fuure
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> *future
[16:12] <CarlenWhite> Sorry. Chronic tiredness doesn't help me. But yeah I'm looking at the comment to my bug report regarding AMDGPU and they suggest updating Mesa. I searched my installed packages and it seems like the packages related to it are selected and up-to-date. Unless they want me to grab a dev-package and cross my fingers that fixes the problem and I can finally use the latest kernel.
[16:13] <CarlenWhite> Mesa is mesa-vulkan-drivers, correct?
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: do you recall your bug ID about amdgpu? perhaps volunteers can have a look for you whats going on
[16:15] <CarlenWhite> Yeah. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/issues/991#note_367244
[16:15] <CarlenWhite> Also might've helped me to notice that setting AMD_DEBUG would be a good idea too.
[16:15] <CarlenWhite> Erm. That's the note on the issue, but still.
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> tnx for bug #1848108
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: did you compare this with an LTS version of ubuntu?
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: you might also look into your bios version, see if there are updates BIOS R0UET68W (1.48 ) 12/07/2018
[16:20] <CarlenWhite> I felt like I've updated when I was running Windows a short while ago before I contained it entirely inside a VM.
[16:20] <CarlenWhite> And I haven't tried testing against the LTS.
[16:25] <CarlenWhite> What is AMD_DEBUG=nodcc supposed to do broadly?
[16:25] <CarlenWhite> Google yields nothing.
[16:25] <CarlenWhite> Other than 'Use this and it works'
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> not sure yet myself, but i do find alot of threads about ERROR* ring gfx timeout, but soft recovered
[16:26] <CarlenWhite> Yeah I'm starting to notice that myself. Good knowing you're not the only soul screaming in the void.
[16:27] <CarlenWhite> But yeah I'm adding the variable, will soon install the bleeding edge kernel, and reboot to test.
[16:27] <CarlenWhite>  /etc/environment is per-line, correct?
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: are the freezes in relation with your machine going to suspend?
[16:27] <CarlenWhite> It isn't. During use.
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> kk tnx
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: i recall a bug similar to this one, also on a ryzen machine, where the user confirmed no freezes on kernel 4.19
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: but that was more a ryzen issue then it was amdgpu
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: so i think in your case, its best to start testing around, and try the steps the devs advice to test also, and keep your bug(s) updated with what you tested
[16:38] <CarlenWhite> Waiting for mainline to download, but once it finishes I'll try without the debug, then with, then also report about the WiFi.
[16:39] <CarlenWhite> Assuming it downloads within this age.
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: but didnt you say your wifi issue was on 5. -21 ?
[16:39] <CarlenWhite> It is.
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> i dont think its useful for the devs you file bugs on older kernels
[16:39] <CarlenWhite> Which is the version I'm using right now.
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> knowing its a realtek..
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: comment 19, says last kernel working 4.20 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201957
[16:42] <CarlenWhite> Something something lowball weedjoke.
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> sorry?
[16:42] <CarlenWhite> Terrible joke. Sorry.
[16:43] <CarlenWhite> Restarting now. Be back soon-ish.
[16:44] <Fevix> Laptop keeps going into airplane mode after closing and reopening the lid. It's not getting stuck in it like others who have this issue, it's just an annoyance having to turn airplane mode off every time I wake the laptop
[16:47] <CarlenWhite> Back. Now to wait.
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: you rebooted into current kernel i presume?
[16:48] <CarlenWhite> 5.5.0-994-generic
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> ah
[16:49] <CarlenWhite> And no constant AP disconnect and reconnects yet either so that's a bonus.
[16:50] <CarlenWhite> But I feel like it's going to be one of those things that you'll bumble along fine for an hour then it's downhill from there.
[16:50] <CarlenWhite> Time will tell.
[16:55] <Fevix> Is there some setting I'm missing? I'd like this laptop to not turn on Airplane Mode when I close the lid and reopen it. It's not getting stuck like that, but it's a bit annoying having to turn airplane mode off every time I wake it from sleep
[16:56] <CarlenWhite> Oh there's those tasty timeouts. Debug variable here we go.
[17:06] <CarlenWhite> Nope. Still timeouts with the debug variable.
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: maybe try a kernel 4.19 as a test too
[17:08] <ioria> Fevix, might be a ACPI  or a module issue . What 'sduo rfkill list all' returns    on resume ?
[17:08] <ioria> *sudo
[17:09] <CarlenWhite> Sorry not for WiFi. This is AMDGPU.
[17:09] <CarlenWhite> My fault.
[17:11] <OerHeks>  5.5.0-994-generic ?
[17:12] <OerHeks> not an ubuntu kernel, what linux version are you using?
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: CarlenWhite says he suffers bug #1848108
[17:14] <Fevix> ioria: WLAN is soft blocked
[17:16] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, but that is still not an ubuntukernel, not even in mainline
[17:17] <sondre> hello, I'm installing ubuntu to recover a messy system *After broken installation of third party software*
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> CarlenWhite: are you testing kernels from outside the !mainline kernels to test your bug?
[17:17] <OerHeks> how would amdgpu drivers work with unknown kernels, i ask
[17:18] <sondre> I was expecting the installation to recognize the precedent installation but instead it didn-t work.. so now it is asking to erase the disk
[17:18] <CarlenWhite> I'm fetching from https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-tip/current/
[17:18] <ioria> Fevix, sudo rfkill unblock all
[17:18] <sondre> is there something I can do to conitnue the installation over exitsting data ?
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: ah yeah drm-tip is what the devs ask to play/test with
[17:18] <sondre> I had a 19.10 installation with a full encrypteed disk
[17:19] <clarkk> I'm trying to work out why nordvpn doesn't show properly in update-manager. See https://www.dropbox.com/s/st3cympxt4dnjv2/Selection_938.png?dl=0 .  As you can see, it shows the description rather than the name of the package.  This is the nordvpn repo https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian  and this is the 'Visual Studio Code' repo, which works as expected...   http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode
[17:20] <clarkk> Can anyone explain how nordvpn can fix this?  I don't work for nordvpn - I'm just a customer of theirs that finds this annoying and want them to fix it
[17:21] <Fevix> ioria: No output, will that prevent it from going into AIrplane Mode on wake?
[17:22] <ioria> Fevix, nope, i wanted to know if running that cmd it would have deactivatedd flight mode
[17:22] <Fevix> Oh. Probably? I manually turned it off so I could reconnect
[17:23] <ioria> Fevix, i mean : sleep -> resume > sudo rfkill unblock all  -> check flight mode if on or off
[17:23] <Fevix> Kay
[17:24] <CarlenWhite> sondre, I'm taking a blind guess while I have to run out the door but I think you have to decrypt the LVM. There should be a guide somewhere that'll explain in depth but once you do that, the installer should see these partitions and let you work with them.
[17:24] <OerHeks> clarkk, ask NordVPN? we have no control how they build and describe their packages
[17:24] <OerHeks> and it seems to work, no?
[17:25] <CarlenWhite> It's usually a command against the block device which'll prompt for decryption pass, then expose the devices.
[17:25] <CarlenWhite> Partitions, rather
[17:25] <Fevix> Interestingly, that time it didn't go into airplane mode, it just turned off wifi. But that command did turn wifi back on.
[17:26] <ioria> Fevix, in this case, we can try a script in /lib/systemd/system-sleep/
[17:28] <Fevix> First time, be gentle and I'm sorry in advance if I ask too many questions.
[17:29] <ioria> Fevix, but would be better to check the lsmod list (before and after sleep)
[17:30] <ioria> Fevix, lsmod | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:30] <Fevix> https://termbin.com/8b1e Before
[17:33] <ioria> Fevix, ok, now, if you can run the same command right aftre resume
[17:33] <Fevix> Issue that I should have realized: Can't upload the file to the site without internet, and I'm assuming whatever it is you're looking for will only be caught while the wifi has been turned off
[17:34] <Fevix> nc: getaddrinfo for host "termbin.com" port 9999: Name or service not known
[17:34] <ioria> Fevix, don't worry; run the command off line; get on line, and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[17:34] <Fevix> ok
[17:39] <Fevix> Okay, connected through my phone, should have probably done this before. ON wake, my CPU usage is stuck at 100. Mouse control responds, but no application control.
[17:40] <Fevix> Not always, just this time
[17:41] <Fevix> I got the command ran, I'm just trying to get it to respond enough to load the page so I can paste it
[17:41] <ioria> Fevix, what machine is that ?
[17:41] <Fevix> $80 laptop
[17:42] <ioria> Fevix, that's my laptop, i asked about yours
[17:42] <Fevix> $80 laptop.
[17:42] <ioria> i see
[17:42] <Fevix> It's some HP thing, uh
[17:42] <ioria> Fevix, reboot that or REISUB
[17:42] <Fevix> Can't reboot yet, still need to get you the paste thing
[17:43] <ioria> ok
[17:44] <Fevix> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tJ47Q36dxY
[17:45] <openbsdtai123> Does Ubuntu for Raspberry PI RPI3b model b has Sauerbraten Cube2 ?
[17:46] <Fevix> Huh, closed FIrefox and issue resolved, no more 100% CPU.....
[17:46] <ioria> Fevix, i don't see a  difference ; how much ram ?
[17:46] <OerHeks> openbsdtai123, i gave you an url, howto build it yourself?
[17:46] <Fevix> 4B
[17:46] <Fevix> gb*
[17:46] <OerHeks> ubuntu did not package it in arm
[17:47] <ioria> Fevix, 4 G is ok; what't the cpu ?
[17:47] <Fevix> hang on, uh
[17:47] <ioria> Fevix, lscpu
[17:47] <openbsdtai123> build build... I am novice in Linux
[17:48] <Fevix> HP Model 14-bw012nr
[17:48] <Fevix> That's the laptop
[17:48] <OerHeks> !build
[17:48] <openbsdtai123> I can learn fast, but it looks to me complex to built sauerbraten from source. It is a big game
[17:49] <Fevix> AMD E2-9000e Radeon R2, 4 compute cores 2C+2g
[17:49] <ioria> Fevix, it's a dual core, it's ok
[17:50] <Fevix> Usually it's fine running Ubuntu, but every now and then for no aparrent reason it'll spike to 100% but that's not why I'm here. I'll try to troubleshoot that on my own, for now I'd like to get this "Airplane mode on sleep" thing resolved
[17:51] <ioria> Fevix, ok, lspci -nnk | nc termbin.ciom 9999
[17:51] <ioria> Fevix, ok, lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:52] <Fevix> https://termbin.com/al38p
[17:53] <ioria> Fevix, cat /proc/cmdline   (you can paste here)
[17:55] <FevixComp> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.0.0-37-generic root=UUID=d7a1cba7-f7b4-4502-b7a8-1af1966e69dc ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1
[17:55] <Fevix> ^ That's me
[17:56] <ioria> Fevix,  cd /lib/systemd/system-sleep/
[17:56] <FevixComp> done
[17:57] <ioria> Fevix,  sudo nano my_script
[17:57] <Fevix> Done
[17:57] <ioria> Fevix,  and pastere there this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FSC8T4xFJG/
[17:58] <Fevix> DOne
[17:58] <ioria> Fevix,  sudo chmod +x nano my_script
[17:59] <Fevix> Do I need to Write Out? Or....?
[17:59] <ioria> Fevix,  you need to save : ctrl+o; ctrl+x
[17:59] <bindi> accidental 'nano' in that chmod command
[17:59] <ioria> bindi, right
[18:00] <ioria> Fevix,  sudo chmod +x my_script
[18:00] <Fevix> Done, no output
[18:00] <ioria> Fevix,  cat my_script
[18:00] <Fevix> Shows the lines you sent me
[18:01] <ioria> Fevix,  ok, reboot; go to sleep, and resume
[18:02] <Fevix> Survey says.....
[18:02] <Fevix> Wifi came back on just fine
[18:02] <Fevix> Thanks!
[18:04] <ioria> ok
[18:15] <clarkk> OerHeks, I think you misunderstood what I asked.  I want to know the correct format for the repo, so I can relay the info to nordvpn, as they have been unable to do it so far
[18:15] <clarkk> I'm trying to work out why nordvpn doesn't show properly in update-manager. See https://www.dropbox.com/s/st3cympxt4dnjv2/Selection_938.png?dl=0 .  As you can see, it shows the description rather than the name of the package.  This is the nordvpn repo https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian  and this is the 'Visual Studio Code' repo, which works as expected...   http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode
[18:15] <clarkk> Can anyone explain how nordvpn can fix this?  I don't work for nordvpn - I'm just a customer of theirs that finds this annoying and want them to fix it
[18:16] <clarkk> Microsoft works fine, and nordvpn's does not.  I want to understand why. Please see the dropbox image
[18:16] <OerHeks> clarkk, ask them to change description?
[18:16] <OerHeks> it seems to work.
[18:17] <pragmaticenigma> clarkk, you have to contact NordVPN. There is nothing the volunteers here would be able to really help with. That is all setup by the PPA maintainer.
[18:17] <OerHeks> we have no control how they build and describe their packages
[18:17] <clarkk> pragmaticenigma, I understand that you have no control.  I want to know the people with control over the repo can fix it, as they don't seem to know
[18:18] <clarkk> OerHeks, I thought it was the description field too, but Microsoft aren't using that for the package name
[18:18] <pragmaticenigma> clarkk, That is their problem. It isn't your job to teach them. You can let them know, and when they feel it is important enough, they'll do their own research on how to fix it.
[18:19] <clarkk> pragmaticenigma, I'd like to know too. Is that so bad?
[18:19] <OerHeks> wanting to know is certainly not bad, but *we* have no answer
[18:20] <clarkk> OerHeks, ok, better to say that, that imply that you're unwilling to help, so it doesn't spoil the atmosphere
[18:20] <clarkk> *than
[18:22] <pragmaticenigma> clarkk, it isn't that we're unwilling... the purpose of this channel is to support Ubuntu, and only the software repositories that are officially offered by Canonical and Ubuntu. Support for other PPA providers is not available here.
[19:02] <enriooooooo> hi
[19:02] <enriooooooo> how to enable microphone?
[19:29] <GoodTimesImmort> hello room
[19:30] <squarecircle> GoodTimesImmort: hello human
[19:41] <The_Fly> hi, i have an issue, i set X11 to use a separate Screen for my HMD diplay, now when i try to maximise a window it takes up both monitors and doesn't display the application menus and close,minimize,maximise buttons on the top bar/panel... couldn't find any solutions to this with a google
[20:09] <funhouse> Hello, I am trying to get something like upstart running on 18.04.3, is there anything that I can do so that my service will be respawned if it goes down?
[20:15] <OerHeks> changing back from systemd to upstart?
[20:16] <seere> funhouse: add a systemd service unit for your service with a Restart= statement. See man 5 systemd.service
[20:21] <funhouse> seere thank you
[20:31] <funhouse> seere, so I guess basically the .service file goes in /lib/systemd/system ?
[20:32] <funhouse> I want to respawn redis, so I guess I would just add a line to redis-server.service?
[20:35] <ioria> funhouse, try Restart=on-failure or Restart=always
[20:37] <funhouse> ioria thank you much appreciated
[20:37] <ioria> ok
[20:38] <funhouse> ioria both are the same?
[20:38] <ioria> funhouse, nope
[20:38] <seere> funhouse: AFAIR /lib/systemd is for package provided files which can be overwritten during update. /etc/systemd/service takes precendense
[20:51] <LuckyMan> Hi, is it peaceful to install jdk 13 from .deb Oracle site?
[20:52] <OerHeks> LuckyMan, you can. We are just not allowed to make a proper ppa for it, so you must check updates yourself.
[20:53] <LuckyMan> OerHeks, ok, I'll try it. It's needed for kotlin, right?
[20:54] <OerHeks> sudo snap install — classic kotlin >> https://snapcraft.io/kotlin
[20:55] <OerHeks> then you would get updates, no clue it needs oracle blob nr 13
[20:57] <funhouse> seere thank you again much appreciated
[20:58] <The_Fly> anyone able to help with the issue im having, windows maximise over both screens now that i added an extra screen for my HMD
[21:00] <OerHeks> The_Fly, systemsettings > devices > displays, look around for the 'jopin displays' option
[21:01] <OerHeks> or join
[21:14] <sparr> the software updater Distribution Upgrade tool is offering to let me upgrade from 18.04 to 19.04, why isn't it offering 19.10?
[21:17] <OerHeks> oh, it does not skip 19.04, there is an ugly hack to do so..
[21:17] <OerHeks> https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/upgrade-ubuntu-18-04-to-ubuntu-19-10-from-command-line
[21:17] <OerHeks> but not really advised,
[21:27] <The_Fly> OerHeks: thanks, I'll take a look
[21:29] <The_Fly> hm, i do not see that option
[21:30] <The_Fly> still running 16.04
[21:43] <GoodTimesImmort> hello room
[21:46] <uldics> Hi! Anyone knows how to eliminate excessive logging from Chrome into dmesg, kern.log and syslog? Every time I do something in Chrome, new lines add up. When clicking, when reloading page, when hovering over a link. Looks like: [ 1292.698064] audit: type=1326 audit(1577655917.820:390): auid=4294967295 uid=1000 gid=1000 ses=4294967295 pid=2469 comm="chrome" exe="/snap/chromium/971/usr/lib/chromium-browser/chrome" sig=0 arch=c000003e syscal
[21:46] <uldics> l=203 compat=0 ip=0x7fdd12864b8f code=0x50000
[21:53] <GoodTimesImmort> Is there a permanent solution to the WiFi not detecting networks after going idle besides rebooting the computer? I tried to restart the wifi manager but it still can't detect networks. Asus laptop with Ubuntu 19.10
[21:57] <jeremy31> GoodTimesImmort: Do results for iwconfig show power management on at any time?
[21:59] <jeremy31> GoodTimesImmort: what results from terminal for> cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf | grep wifi
[22:01] <GoodTimesImmort> "jeremy31" I'm pretty new to Ubuntu so you might have to explain it like I'm 5.
[22:01] <jeremy31> GoodTimesImmort: open terminal window and copy/paste the commands into terminal window
[22:02] <jeremy31> GoodTimesImmort: ctrl + alt + t should open a terminal window
[22:02] <GoodTimesImmort> I got a "no such file" error when I copy pasted into terminal
[22:03] <jeremy31> GoodTimesImmort: for>   cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf | grep wifi
[22:04] <paracusia> hello, I have two samsung ssd pro attached to an pci-e sata controller using sata_sil24 module with kernel 5.4.0. when writing 4GB to the disks via mdadm/dmcrypt the whole system freezes and responds after around 30 seconds when the write is over.. no errors or anything in syslog or "dmesg" - how to debug this kind of phenomena?
[22:07] <GoodTimesImmort> I received a syntax error near unexpected token '>
[22:09] <EriC^^> GoodTimesImmort: press ctrl+c
[22:09] <EriC^^> type "grep wifi /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf"
[22:09] <jeremy31> GoodTimesImmort: don't include the > with the command
[22:10] <Orcs53> Hi guys! I need help with something! I wanted to automate decryption at boot time on my system, and I followed a guide like similar to this https://dradisframework.com/support/guides/customization/auto-unlock-luks-encrypted-drive.html. I believe I incorrectly followed one of the instructions and when rebooting I got an error message like cryptsetup
[22:10] <Orcs53> going to sleep for 60 seconds. I found this was a security mechanism to stop brute force attacks, and I then realised I had made a mistake in the /etc/crypttab file. I attempted to rectify this issues by booting live ubuntu and fixing the file and re-updating the initramfs. I was able todo this, but, now when I boot I get a "PKCS#7 signature not
[22:10] <Orcs53> signed with a trusted key" error shortly after GRUB. I am not sure how to proceed. Can anyone offer me advice on howto properly update the initramfs from a live CD?
[22:12] <jeremy31> Orcs53: sounds like trying to use the shimx efi file after deleting the Secure Boot keys
[22:12] <Orcs53> I actually think Secure Boot is disabled on my system.
[22:13] <Orcs53> I remember having issues with it due to an old graphics card with unsigned firmware, and I had to disable it.
[22:13] <jeremy31> orcs post URL from terminal for>   efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:13] <Orcs53> I'll have to reboot into Ubuntu Live, give me a minute.
[22:15] <GoodTimesImmort> This is what I copied and pasted "NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf | grep wifi
[22:15] <GoodTimesImmort> No such file or directory
[22:16] <Orcs53> jeremy31, I just checked the UFEI BIOS when I restarted, and FYI Secure Boot is definitely disabled.
[22:16] <wonderworld> Orcs53: why did you want to do this? wouldn't it be more simple to create an unencrypted volume and move the data there?
[22:18] <jeremy31> GoodTimesImmort: use "cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf | grep wifi"
[22:18] <Orcs53> wonderworld, I am actually happy with the encrypted volume, this was supposed to be a temporary measure.
[22:19] <wonderworld> Orcs53: all right, i see
[22:20] <__Milencho> Guys, i have a problem with deleting files(GUI) from explorer/desktop doesn't matter -> it's constantly crashing
[22:24] <EriC^^> __Milencho: you could try launching the files gui from a terminal to see any hints
[22:25] <wonderworld> Orcs53: are you using the nvidia driver on your machine. google finds many threads on problems with the signing of the nvida driver when searching for your error message.
[22:26] <__Milencho> EriC^^,  : nautilus --browser /home/milencho/Downloads/
[22:26] <__Milencho> Failed to register: Timeout was reached
[22:26] <Orcs53> So... I get further when I select the Recovery entry in GRUB, not PCKS#7 error. But, I run into something new, the system complains it can't mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root.
[22:27] <Orcs53> @wonderworld, I have seen what you are referring to. Yes I have NVIDIA drivers installed. I actually think running in recovery mode is skipping this problem because it likely opts not to use them.
[22:28] <__Milencho> EriC^^, the whole system(gnome) is not working as expected, also i cannot logout
[22:33] <__Milencho> EriC^^, i've rebooted PC and problem has gone
[22:35] <uldics> Ref. my (23:46:03) uldics: Hi! Anyone knows how to eliminate excessive logging from Chrome into dmesg, kern.log and syslog? Every time I do something in Chrome, new lines add up. When clicking, when reloading page, when hovering over a link. Looks like: [ 1292.698064] audit: type=1326 audit(1577655917.820:390): auid=4294967295 uid=1000 gid=1000 ses=4294967295 pid=2469 comm="chrome" exe="/snap/chromium/971/usr/lib/chromium-browser/chrome"
[22:35] <uldics>  sig=0 arch=c000003e syscall=203 compat=0 ip=0x7fdd12864b8f code=0x50000
[22:35] <uldics> I have found out so far it is something to do with reserving a single processor core for Chromium, that fails or something. As soon as I deactivate hardware acceleration setting in Chromium, the excessive logging stops. So this is either a bug in 1. Snap, 2. Chromium, 3. Kernel. In that order of probability. But I am not an expert in kernel logging.
[22:41] <OerHeks> uldics, easy test: install the apt version of chromium, should be up2date too..
[22:41] <GoodTimesImmort> "Jeremy31" I copied and pasted and now the shell is just sitting there with a cursor and nothing else
[22:41] <OerHeks> you found out the flood is about hw acceleration
[22:42] <EriC^^> __Milencho: great ;)
[22:42] <jeremy31> GoodTimesImmort: use ctrl +c
[22:42] <__Milencho> EriC^^, not great but not terrible;]
[22:42] <EriC^^> :D
[22:42] <GoodTimesImmort> I did
[22:43] <jeremy31> GoodTimesImmort: see https://askubuntu.com/a/910186/300665 and run the commands below Some USB devices perform poorly when power management is enabled for wifi, it can be disabled by
[22:43] <uldics> OerHeks, I have the Chromium from official repositories. The new Snap one. Is it possible to get the old one, without Snap back, is that you refer to?
[22:44] <OerHeks> yes
[22:44] <OerHeks> !info chromium-browser
[22:45] <OerHeks> in bionic it is 79
[22:45] <OerHeks> .. seems like after 18.04 LTS it is snap only.. https://launchpad.net/chromium-browser/+packages
[22:46] <OerHeks> beta Focal gives 79 too..
[22:46] <GoodTimesImmort> Jeremy31: This is an internal wifi, but it seems like it might work. I'll give it a try, but in case it doesn't, I can just reverse right?
[22:47] <jeremy31> GoodTimesImmort: that command will keep Network Manager from enabling wifi power management, it does help for internal wifi
[22:48] <uldics> OerHeks, so it is not possible? Well, time to migrate to next browser again ...
[22:51] <OerHeks> you did not tell what ubuntu version you are on..
[22:51] <uldics> 19.10
[22:52] <OerHeks> then no, apt does not bring the latest one, 79
[22:53] <GoodTimesImmort> jeremy31: Is that why I'm having a hard time finding a solution for internal wifi?
[22:54] <jeremy31> GoodTimesImmort: it could be, also see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2354328&p=13614520&#post13614520
[23:01] <dragonkeyper> hello all, can some one point me in the direction of a guide for troubleshooting random crashes?
[23:02] <sixwheeledbeast> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[23:03] <GoodTimesImmort> jeremy31: This might be a little closer to my issue. Going to mess around a bit and see what I learn, figure out. Thank you for your help so far
[23:17] <dragonkeyper> thx
[23:42] <Orcs53> wonderworld, jeremy31, I have fixed the issue. The first part of the problem required booting into Ubuntu Live and fixing /etc/crypttab, and updating the initramfs (described well here https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/recovering-from-unbootable-ubuntu-encrypted-lvm-root-partition/). Then the NVIDIA drivers caused the PCKS#7 error, and I had to
[23:42] <Orcs53> boot into a recovery console and purge them.
[23:43] <Orcs53> I have gotten back into the usual desktop environment, and I am now trying to reinstall the NVIDIA drivers.
[23:44] <Orcs53> I note that the boot time has SIGNIFICANTLY increased, it seems the process hangs right after cryptsetup comeplete, I'm not sure whats causing this yet.
[23:52] <Orcs53> Ok, I just reinstalled the NVIDIA drivers and rebooted, back in the desktop environment, and NVIDIA drivers are working again.
[23:54] <Orcs53> I have to stress the significant increase in boot time, 30 seconds up to a few mins give or take. I'm what exactly is causing this, but the auto decrypt is working..