[07:35] <harisund> hadi57 ^^
[07:35] <subpar> hadi57: I'm sorry you wouldn't use synaptic, I read package manager
[07:36] <ardchoille> Cicero: Here is a crontab how-to that I wrote, have a look: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto?highlight=%28crontab%29
[07:36] <hadi57> this is  switch file for my siemens laptop
[07:36] <hadi57> to operate the wireless on my laptop
[07:36] <harisund> hadi57 where did you get it from? In any case, you will have to extract it, untar it and read the documentation inside to check how you would install it
[07:37] <subpar> did you install dapper on the laptop? when I installed it, wireless worked fine
[07:37] <incandenza> ardchoille: you wrote that?
[07:37] <Cicero> ardchoille: may im wrong but my line looks that way : */10 * * * * /usr/bin/fetchmail -akv -m ...
[07:37] <ardchoille> incandenza: It seems that someone over-wrote my tutorial.
[07:37] <hadi57> my radio wirless is off need to be turn on
[07:37] <khaled_> hi all, can anyone help me on this, what should i do if i want to read the source code of some programs like aMSN for example ???
[07:38] <Cicero> ardchoille: and an example line in that howto looks : */5 9-17 * * mon,tue,wed,thur,fri wall "Are we there yet?"
[07:38] <incandenza> ardchoille: ah...  because that one does use a / in the time field.  (which works, I just tried it)
[07:38] <hadi57> how to unpack the .tgz file anyway?
[07:38] <harisund> hadi57 you are familiar with the command line? The terminal?
[07:38] <hadi57> yes
[07:38] <hadi57> the command line
[07:38] <ardchoille> ok, ignore me
[07:38] <mikeubuntu> msg nickserv register candilynn
[07:38] <syntaxx> hadi57: tar zxvf file.tgz
[07:38] <incandenza> Cicero: I recommend getting the MAILTO= setting to work so you can see what's happening
[07:38] <harisund> hadi57 if so, in the command line you could execute 'tar xzvf package.tgz'
[07:38] <hadi57> ill try it now
[07:38] <frogzoo> incandenza: that's gnu's crond - it's not typical crond
[07:39] <Cicero> incandenza: well it think i need to know the whole thing about cron :) before i get back and ask hehe
[07:39] <incandenza> frogzoo: ah, I see.  guess that's why I've never seen that syntax
[07:39] <harisund> tar is the package, the x tells it to extract, the z tells it is a zip file, v is for verbose and f says the file name is going to follow (package.tgz)... hadi57
[07:39] <khaled_> hi all, can anyone help me on this, what should i do if i want to read the source code of some programs like aMSN for example ???
[07:39] <Paddy_EIRE> hey me again trying to install ubuntu on one single drive with 1 ntfs part(Win2000) 1 unformatted Part (intended to be the Ubuntu Install formatted with whatever fs u guys recommend
[07:39] <hadi57> ah ok
[07:39] <hadi57> thxk
[07:39] <TheGame> ext 2
[07:39] <TheGame> Paddy_EIRE:  use ext2
[07:39] <frogzoo> khaled_: apt-get source amsn
[07:40] <Cicero> but anyway thanks for your help ardchoille and incandenza
[07:40] <xota> hi! somebody can give me a good sources.list for a ubuntu dapper? I can't connect to fi.archive.ubuntu.com ;(
[07:40] <khaled_> frogzoo: thx
[07:40] <michaeljb2006> hey glad I could help Cicero
[07:40] <frogzoo> khaled_: enable the source repos for that to work
[07:40] <khaled_> frogzoo: and where will it be installed?
[07:40] <frogzoo> khaled_: pwd
[07:41] <khaled_> frogzoo: how can i do that?
[07:41] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i install ubuntu with this "unrecognized" unformatted partition, there is an exclamation mark next to it
[07:41] <frogzoo> khaled_: synaptic -> repositories
[07:41] <khaled_> got it, thanx
[07:42] <incandenza> Paddy_EIRE: if you don't want it, delete it and create a proper one
[07:42] <TheGame> how do i fix the nvidia driver so i can use limewire
[07:42] <Paddy_EIRE> incandenza what with im in the live cd now
[07:42] <harisund> Can someone tell me the difference between (1) find . -type f -name *.c (2) find . -type f -name '*.c' ????
[07:42] <TheGame> i read that because of the nvidia driver when i open a java app all i see is gray
[07:43] <incandenza> Paddy_EIRE: when you do the install, pick 'manually edit the partitions'
[07:43] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[07:43] <Paddy_EIRE> 1 sec
[07:43] <frogzoo> harisund: 2 will do what you expect, 1 won't
[07:43] <harisund> frogzoo I just figured that the hard way .. :( ... what is happening?
[07:43] <TheGame> anybody?
[07:43] <frogzoo> harisund: the shell is expanding * before passing it as an argument to find
[07:44] <AstralJava> Hello ubunteros! Does anybody know who admins the users on Ubuntu wiki's and Launchpad's?
[07:44] <harisund> hmmmm..... expanding * to whaT?
[07:44] <incandenza> harisund: anything that happens to match in the current directory
[07:45] <harisund> ah .. interesting .. is it some bash peculiarity? Will it work the same way on tcsh as well?
[07:45] <DarkAudit> where can I change the settings for the menu/panel fonts? System>Preferences->Fonts doesn't affect those
[07:45] <geekdom> What is the equivilent of rpm -ivh for debian ?
[07:45] <harisund> thanks frogzoo and incandenza.. you just made my command line experience a bit more richer today :)
[07:45] <harisund> geekdom dpkg -i ?
[07:45] <incandenza> harisund: that is pretty standard behavior
[07:45] <geekdom> thanks!!!
[07:45] <harisund> geekdom wait .. are you trying to install a .deb package you downloaded or something?
[07:47] <dell> hi
[07:47] <krang> hey hey, I've been having trouble with the route command. I see entries that I want to get rid of, but they won't delete. For instance <IP_ADDRESS>, gateway *, netmask <IP_ADDRESS>, flag U gives me "No such process" When I try to delete it, and tells me that the netmask doesn't make sense if I try including that. Any suggestions?
[07:47] <Devec> hi
[07:47] <Paddy_EIRE> what do i do now that im in Manually edit the partiton table i can see why wn2000 ntfs /dev/hda1 and extended /dev/hda2 which trees down to /dev/hda5 (!Unknown) what should i do now
[07:48] <incandenza> krang: try setting it in the interface with ifconfig instead of changing the route
[07:48] <Paddy_EIRE> i want ubuntu on hda2
[07:48] <manmadha> he in my home folder i find a file .lesshst is there any poblem with it.......every one have that file???
[07:48] <NickGarvey> Paddy_EIRE: do you know how to format a partition?
[07:48] <vorbote> krang, try using the ip command instead (route is rather deprecated).
[07:48] <Paddy_EIRE> in ubuntu
[07:48] <Mdog> can somebody here confirm that "apt-get install rrdtool" works or doesn't work on their system?
[07:49] <NickGarvey> manmadha: I have that file
[07:49] <incandenza> Paddy_EIRE: so the only partition you want to keep is /dev/hda1?
[07:49] <manmadha> NickaNicka, what is the perpose of that?
[07:49] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah thats my win2000 part, i want ubuntu on the other
[07:49] <harisund> manmadha there are lots of files starting from '.' in your home directory .. generally it is safe ..
[07:49] <NickGarvey> Mdog: hmm.. its not worknig
[07:49] <krang> vorbote: ok, I'll give that a shot
[07:50] <incandenza> Paddy_EIRE: just delete 2 and 5, then create a swap partition and an ext3 partition
[07:50] <NickGarvey> Mdog: lemme try and apt-get update
[07:50] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[07:50] <frogzoo> krang: your syntxax is wrong
[07:50] <krang> incandenza: thanks for the suggestion, but I don't see how i can do that
[07:50] <krang> frogzoo: How so?
[07:50] <manmadha> can any one tell how to load itunes in ipod??
[07:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Why not reiserfs or reiser4
[07:50] <hussam> any recommended wysiwyg html editor?
[07:50] <NickGarvey> hussam: nvu
[07:51] <incandenza> Paddy_EIRE: oh...  that's fine if you want...  just some usable linux filesystem
[07:51] <NickGarvey> Paddy_EIRE: you can use those also, ext3 is the default
[07:51] <hussam> NickGarvey, ok thanks
[07:51] <beerfan> the special function keys (e.g., Fn F2 to toggle wireless) don't work. do you have to install something special to make them work?
[07:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Is there a command  (or maybe an option in Synaptic) to delete the archived .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archive?  Or can I just go in and delete them by hand?
[07:51] <NickGarvey> EnsignRedshirt: apt-get clean I believe
[07:51] <Paddy_EIRE> whats the best fastest most up to date, why use ext2,3
[07:52] <NickGarvey> Paddy_EIRE: I think.. xfs is the fastest due to one report I read..
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> really
[07:52] <harisund> EnsignRedshirt: apt-get clean ; apt-get autoclean
[07:52] <EnsignRedshirt> NickGarvey: So it it. Thanks!
[07:52] <NickGarvey> Paddy_EIRE: mind you this was one report I read in one place
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone else
[07:52] <EnsignRedshirt> s/it it/it is/
[07:52] <NickGarvey> :)
[07:52] <dell> hi i looking to duy a pcm card
[07:52] <dell> a wireless,
[07:53] <dell> do you have alist
[07:53] <krang> frogzoo: <IP_ADDRESS> * <IP_ADDRESS> 0 0 0 U eth0
[07:53] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: ext3 had journalling, so will usually not need to fsck, & is probably best for all but high performance/big iron applications
[07:53] <krang> frogzoo: How do I remove that?
[07:53] <beerfan> dell, google for madwifi.org. there's a good list there
[07:53] <frogzoo> krang: man route
[07:54] <beerfan> Anyone know how to make the special function keys (e.g., Fn F2) on a laptop work in Ubuntu?
[07:54] <krang> frogzoo: Thanks, I didn't know it had a man page. God forbid that I even read it
[07:54] <Paddy_EIRE> what is the best fs ext2/3, reserfs, xfs....
[07:54] <jnguy[w] > ext3?
[07:54] <jnguy[w] > in terms of popularity.
[07:55] <incandenza> krang: check out the man for ifconfig, too, because I think those routes are added automatically by ifconfig
[07:55] <Blissex> Paddy_EIRE: very very silly question! They all have very different ''optimal'' situations...
[07:55] <krang> incandenza : yup, they are
[07:55] <amar-ze> hi, anyone use bitchx-gtk? I am having some problems..
[07:55] <Dodzey> hey all
[07:55] <Dodzey> anyone knowledgeable on how to sort out acpi, the 'halt' process in shutdown doesn't actually shut down my computer
[07:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Blissex explain
[07:55] <NickGarvey> Paddy_EIRE: if you are unsure, I suggest ext3
[07:56] <Blissex> Paddy_EIRE: a bit like asking ''what's the best desk editor'' or ''what's the best distro''. try to say what you expect to do with it. Like filesystem size, type of PC, files, ...
[07:56] <krang> frogzoo: So do you actually know anythjing or do you hang out on IRC telling people to read man pages all day?
[07:56] <harisund> krang that was quite rude :)
[07:56] <dell> were no the list ubuntu have a hard were complater list for wireless card...
[07:56] <Blissex> Paddy_EIRE: for example, XFS is best for very large RAID storage systems, ReiserFS for lots of very small files, and so on...
[07:56] <frogzoo> krang: I help people who are prepared to help themselves
[07:57] <dell> were on ubuntu they have a hardware list for wireless card...
[07:57] <harisund> frogzoo, teach a man to fish rather than give him fish,eh?
[07:57] <Blissex> frogzoo: that is a commendable attitude too, even if some people take it as a bit rude...
[07:57] <krang> frogzoo: Does reading the pages and trying all day count?
[07:57] <hellboy195> hi, i habe a "special" problem with bei bcm4318 wlan card from broadcom - is anybody here with big knowledge ?
[07:57] <Paddy_EIRE> well i want dvd images, mp3, pics, alsorts
[07:57] <beerfan> dell, Ubuntu doesn't have a list that I know of. Go look at the madwifi.org list
[07:57] <incandenza> krang: so you just set up the interface, something like 'ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>', and the right route appears
[07:57] <frogzoo> beerfan: system -> configuration editor -> apps -> metacity -> global key bindings
[07:57] <dell> hooooo ok
[07:58] <Blissex> Paddy_EIRE: how large? Just your own PC, desktop usage? Do you dual boot to MS Windows?
[07:58] <krang> Blissex: What if you teach a man to fish and he falls out and starts drowning before he's got any experience?
[07:58] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: whats not working?
[07:58] <CVirus-Cilantro> how the heck do I view .tex files ?
[07:58] <harisund> what's the problem here krang?  Or for once you grab him and take him out of the water :-). Without doing mouth breathing though :-)
[07:59] <hellboy195> ok its very strange - there is a problem with the bcm43xx cards right?
[07:59] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro how did you get a .tex file? I believe that's a Latex file .. you will have to convert it into a .dvi or a .pdf ..
[07:59] <incandenza> "build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day.  set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life"
[07:59] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: kind of, I had to use ndiswrapper for mine
[07:59] <krang> incandenza: lol
[07:59] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: have you tried ndiswrapper?
[07:59] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: they book was said to be LateX .. but when I extracted it I found .tex files
[07:59] <Desh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?highlight=%28recover%29 - If I want Grub to give me the option of choosing b/w Windows and Linux, which instructions should I follow?
[08:00] <CVirus-Cilantro> hellboy195: ndiswrapper works fine with them I guess
[08:00] <Blissex> Paddy_EIRE: however the usual general ''all purpose'' filesystems are 'ext3' and JFS. I think that JFS is somewhat better performance than 'ext3'. However 'ext3' is MS Windows compatible.
[08:00] <terre1> hi. What is "dapper.0" ? edgy  6.10  (DEVELOPMENT)   dapper.0   6.06  (FROZEN)  dapper  6.06    (CURRENT)
[08:00] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro the book was right.. they are latex files
[08:00] <krang> harisund: I have entries in my routing table that I can't seem to get rid of
[08:00] <beerfan> frogzoo, I don't have a "configuration editor" under the system menu. I've looked in "Preferences > Keyboard shortcuts" but there are no mappings for those keys
[08:00] <krang> Blissex: The linux way is the first way :-)
[08:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Blissex i want to dual boot windows 2000 ntfs with ubuntu both on same drive
[08:00] <hellboy195> yes and yesterday i was at a friens home and we tried it with my laptop - nothing worked so we used ndiswrapper - and it worked but at my home not :( - the card is aktiv but not connected
[08:00] <frogzoo> beerfan: system tools etc..
[08:01] <NickGarvey> Desh: you can do it automatically
[08:01] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro you will need to install latex. But wait, doesn't the directory have anything at all but .tex files?
[08:01] <NickGarvey> Desh: just don't change your menu.lst and you should be fine
[08:01] <Desh> If I dual boot Windows on a UBuntu System, do I want to add Grub to the MBR or overwrite the Windows bootloader with Grub?
[08:01] <Dodzey> anyone knowledgeable on how to sort out acpi??
[08:01] <Blissex> Paddy_EIRE: then got for 'ext3' and use this driver under MS Windows: http://FS-Driver.org/
[08:01] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro do you want to point me to that link or something? I am more familiar with Latex..
[08:01] <Blissex> Desh: overwrite usually is much easier.
[08:01] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: there are .eps and .fig
[08:01] <NickGarvey> Desh: well, did you ever have windows on the computer?
[08:01] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: just a sec
[08:02] <NickGarvey> Desh: or are you just now installing it next to ubuntu
[08:02] <harisund> krang the man page says route del should delete a route .. can you post the output of route perhaps to pastebin or something?
[08:02] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro go ahead.
[08:02] <harisund> krang besides, what kind of internet connectivity do you have? How are you connected to the internet?
[08:02] <DanaG> Is it a good idea to enable all the default repos?
[08:02] <hellboy195> NixkGarvey: yesterday i was at a friends home and we tried it with my laptop - nothing worked so we used ndiswrapper - and it worked but at my home not :( - the card is aktiv but not connected
[08:03] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/
[08:03] <Paddy_EIRE> DanaG i did but got alot of errors
[08:03] <Blissex> DanaG: not too bad an idea. Slows down things a bit.
[08:03] <incandenza> DanaG: probably best to only enable what you need packages from
[08:03] <Desh> NickGarvey: It has Ubuntu on it and I am installing Windows on a 2nd partition
[08:03] <ohho1290_> i installed this package zlib1g_1.2.2-4.sarge.2_i386.deb. how can i remove this?
[08:03] <krang> harisund: Comp -> switch -> PDSN -> ethernet with provider gateway
[08:03] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro so why did you download the gzipped tar file?
[08:03] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: it worked at your friends house though?
[08:03] <DanaG> Currently I just want to add Amarok.
[08:03] <incandenza> DanaG: if that's all of them, then... do all of them
[08:03] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: if it did, try "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[08:04] <DanaG> I don't know which repo has Amarok.
[08:04] <hellboy195> i tried very often ;)
[08:04] <beerfan> frogzoo, ok found it. the list in configuration editor looks identical to the list in the keyboard shortcuts (i.e., nothing for extended function keys)
[08:04] <harisund> krang, forgive my ignorance, but what is a PDSN?
[08:04] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I wanna view it offline when I'm not connected
[08:04] <DanaG> !xgl
[08:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:04] <incandenza> DanaG: amarok is in main...  no need to add anything
[08:04] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: the link is at the end of the page
[08:04] <Desh> NickGarvey: So when XP installs it will overwrite the MBR and I'll need to restore Grub, I want to use Grub to load XP and Ubuntu, so should I make Grub overwrite the Windows Boot Loader
[08:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Desh yep
[08:04] <NickGarvey> Desh: yes you should
[08:05] <Desh> Ok, and will Grub ask me wether to boot XP or Ubuntu or do I have to do something to make it do that?
[08:05] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro .. the problem is, the source is a LaTeX file .. let me see if I can create the pdf files for you ...otherwise you will have to install LaTeX and convert the .TeX files into .pdf files for later use.
[08:05] <DarkAudit> even tried searching through gconf-editor... how do I change the panel font?
[08:05] <DanaG> I don't see Amarok in the stock checked repos.
[08:05] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I already installed tetx-base and tetex-common
[08:05] <krang> harisund: Packet Data Serving Node. It's basically a router that does a bunch of other stuff like terminating PPPoE sessions
[08:05] <geekdom> Where does one get .deb packages ?  I went to http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/x11/twm and all I find is .tgz files I have to "configure  make makeinstall "
[08:05] <harisund> oh .. that should technically be good enough .. hang on ..
[08:05] <Paddy_EIRE> itll find windows again anyway, where as windows bootloader wont find linux based os
[08:05] <NickGarvey> Desh: you will need to do something, which on is on the page you had
[08:05] <hellboy195> nickgarvey: iwlist scan is good, ifconfig also , i dont know what to do :(
[08:05] <krang> Harisund: <IP_ADDRESS> * <IP_ADDRESS> 0 0 0 U eth0
[08:05] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: so "iwlist scan" works?
[08:06] <harisund> krang, give me a second .. Cvirus-Cilantro I will have a look and let you know what needs to be done
[08:06] <beerfan> DanaG, try Quod Libet instead of amarok
[08:06] <krang> Harisund: That's the entry that won't die
[08:06] <Desh> NickGarvey: Ok, thanks! :)
[08:06] <zetor> hi all!
[08:06] <hellboy195> yes
[08:06] <krang> harisund: cheers
[08:06] <geekdom> I just need to put twm on 606 server :(
[08:06] <hellboy195> @ nickgarvey
[08:06] <frogzoo> beerfan: global keybindings - you can setup any keybind yourself, you need to also create the command in keybinding_commands
[08:06] <incandenza> DanaG: should be there...  spelling maybe?
[08:06] <geekdom> I need something really light
[08:06] <DanaG> I just need something that will give me folder views.
[08:06] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I would be thankful
[08:06] <DanaG> Is it in universe or multiverse?  Those aren't checked by default.
[08:06] <harisund> ok first, Cvirus-Cilantro, I am assuming you are familiar with the command line?
[08:07] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: ah sure
[08:07] <hellboy195> nickgarvey: i said it : at the friends home it worked fine but not for me :(
[08:07] <DanaG> DHCP?
[08:07] <incandenza> !info amarok
[08:07] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[08:07] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: ok.. I would try to use a wireless assistant program to help
[08:07] <incandenza> it's in main
[08:07] <CVirus-Cilantro> !info tetx-base
[08:07] <ubotu> Package tetx-base does not exist in dapper
[08:07] <DanaG> Oh, I just didn't reload.
[08:07] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: I run suse on my laptop so I am not sure what programs are available for ubuntu
[08:07] <CVirus-Cilantro> !info tetex-base
[08:07] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro: Can you tell me if a command named 'latex2pdf' is present on your system?
[08:07] <ubotu> tetex-base: Basic library files of teTeX. In repository main, is optional. Version 3.0-15ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 21892 kB, installed size 76692 kB
[08:07] <DanaG> Hah, silly me.
[08:07] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro: Just hit latex2 and hit tab.. the command should be completed
[08:07] <hellboy195> there is a programm for ubuntu ;)
[08:07] <beerfan> frogzoo, ok but how would I discover how to map a particular keystroke to a command to toggle off wireless or toggle lcd to external monitor for example?
[08:08] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: its not there
[08:08] <mikeubuntu> !xgl
[08:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:08] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: stop those n00bies tips :-p
[08:08] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro what do you get when you type in 'latex' and hit tab? What are the commands that bash says can be completed?
[08:08] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: no commands related at all
[08:08] <frogzoo> beerfan: if you have a command you can run from the command line, you can assign a keystroke to it
[08:09] <harisund> huh? you installd tetex base and tetex bin, right?
[08:09] <mikeubuntu> anyone using xgl?
[08:09] <DanaG> argh, that's the one thing I miss from Mepis -- nearly EVERYTHING can be tab-completed.
[08:09] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: havey ou tried it?
[08:09] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro let me do a quick check .. /w 11
[08:09] <DanaG> Even apt-get commands.
[08:09] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: have you tried it?*
[08:09] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: tetex-base and tetex-common
[08:09] <mikeubuntu> xgl work ok?
[08:09] <Dodzey> mikeubuntu:yeah, i am
[08:09] <frogzoo> beerfan: you should be looking at run_command_#
 indicates tabs:
[08:09] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: huh ?
[08:09] <beerfan> frogzoo, I don't have any program which does those things. They are acpi things or something aren't they?
[08:09] <budluva> k, i need some help here, i just installed xgl via the wiki CompositeManager/XGL page, and i go to choose my system session, and then log in, well it just sits there for about 20secs and kicks me back to gdm, where do i go from here?
[08:09] <hellboy195> yes - many times - card is here and aktiv - i uses static ip and dhcp many times but it hasnz ever connectetd
[08:09] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro one of those packages should have had latex2pdf or atleast pure 'latex' ..
[08:09] <harisund> let me just check
[08:10] <bosco> where are my sources list located i have not messed with it in a long time and i need to know
[08:10] <wheelchair> how do you exit the x server in ubuntu 6.06? ctrl-alt-backspace only works for a few seconds, then x starts up again.
[08:10] <mikeubuntu> Dozey: do you get a cube like in SuSe SLED 10?
[08:10] <mikeubuntu> I assume so
[08:10] <Dodzey> yup
[08:10] <DanaG> apt-g<> in<> linux-im<>6.<>-686
[08:10] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: there is pod2latex that I only have installed
[08:10] <mikeubuntu> think I'll do it then
[08:10] <Dodzey> mikeubuntu:i am using qinnstorms compiz packages, check out http://www.compiz.net
[08:10] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: plz say my nick when sending me a msg .. I cant track the channel
[08:11] <DanaG> In SuSE 10.1, I had to check "always request broadcast response" to get DHCP to work.
[08:11] <mikeubuntu> thanks, will do that immediately
[08:11] <Paddy_EIRE> ok guys how big should the linux-swap be
[08:11] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro I don't know about that command .. but hang on .. I am doing a quick install of tetex-base and tetex-bin .. I will let you know in an instant .. and yes, I will mention your nick ..
[08:11] <DanaG> I can't find that option here.
[08:11] <frogzoo> beerfan: well if you can't do it from the command line, then there's no way of binding a key to it
[08:11] <krang> harisund: Never mind, it turned out that I had the right command but that for some odd reason it wasn't working. I think it may have been an interrupted ifup that did it. The device was in the routing table, b ut not active. Anyway, fixed now. Thanks!
[08:11] <beerfan> so Ubuntu doesn't support external monitors?
[08:11] <hellboy195> nickgarvey; yes - many times - card is here and aktiv - i uses static ip and dhcp many times but it hasnt ever connected
[08:11] <harisund> krang good to know you got it working ..
[08:11] <BobSongs> Linux swap about double your RAM, some say; other say as large as your RAM.
[08:11] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: i'll install tetex-bin .. i guess it has what i need
[08:11] <Dodzey> mikeubuntu:there is how to section on compiz.net, check it out, all i would suggest is maybes downloading an earlier version of quinn's packages, they're were a lot of upstream changes and they've messed up the latest packages somewhat
[08:12] <krang> harisund: yep :-) cheers for the help
[08:12] <harisund> CVirus-Cilantro go ahead and do that.. I am donig that as well
[08:12] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: oh..  Thanks a bunch.
[08:12] <BobSongs> Or RAM and a half. You get the idea.
[08:12] <jbroome> !repos > geekdom
[08:13] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro tetex-bin has all the binaries .. so I am guesing the latex2pdf executable is a part of that package
[08:13] <hellboy195> hmm suse 10.1 isn working very well and 10.0 hmm i dont like it - i likeubuntu ;) - hmm but so many had no problems with that and at my friends home it worked fine :(
[08:13] <geekdom> How do I enable the universal repository in 606 server ?
[08:13] <Paddy_EIRE> hw to view my ram size in ubuntu?
[08:13] <jbroome> !repos
[08:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:14] <DanieC> Anybody's Toshiba laptop can be restarted in Linux?
[08:14] <geekdom> I want to apt-get install twm.
[08:14] <Dodzey> paddy:system >> admin >> system monitor
[08:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Dodzey nice one
[08:14] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: dare I ask, is grub installed?
[08:14] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro once you have the latex2pdf binary, you will just have to go 'latex2pdf file_name.tex' and you will get a .pdf file generated (hopefully)
[08:14] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper no this is my mates machine
[08:15] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[08:15] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I'll see about that and keep u updated
[08:15] <Tauhshi> Hello
[08:15] <hellboy195> nickgarvey:  hmm suse 10.1 isn working very well and 10.0 hmm i dont like it - i likeubuntu ;) - hmm but so many had no problems with that and at my friends home it worked fine :(
[08:16] <flujan> hi guys... i want to add the pt_BR.ISO859-1 as the default locale in my dapper installation...
[08:16] <Tauhshi> I never could get SuSE to install . . .
[08:16] <flujan> how I should proceed?
[08:16] <jbroome> hellboy195: any reason you're repeating yourself?
[08:16] <BobSongs> I've got an interesting challenge to solve here. My mic doesn't record. I hear it thru the speakers but Sound Recorder won't capture.
[08:17] <Tauhshi> How much of a change would it be to use a 64Bit instalitation instead of a 32bit one?
[08:17] <Ghagge> anyone who knows if there is any way to install ubuntu with gnome but without all other packets
[08:17] <hellboy195> i forget to use   the  nickname :   maybe he couldnt see it without
[08:17] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I guess pdflatex will do the trick
[08:17] <BobSongs> I've messed with all the settings in the Volume Control panel. No dice.
[08:17] <Blissex> Tauhshi: complete reinstall, it is a different CPU, as say PowerPC and Intel are different (a bit less, but enough).
[08:17] <flujan> guys, how can I set a locale in ubuntu dapper?
[08:17] <Tauhshi> no, I haven't installed it yet
[08:18] <BobSongs> Locale?
[08:18] <Dodzey> bobsongs:you tried terminal 'alsamixer'?
[08:18] <[Wiebel] > hmmz
[08:18] <[Wiebel] > big update
[08:18] <Tauhshi> I'm just wondering how much faster it would be
[08:18] <[Wiebel] > 86 updates
[08:18] <[Wiebel] > damn
[08:18] <Paddy_EIRE> Dodzey how should i lay out this 32.27gb part in linux
[08:18] <flujan> i tried dpkg-reconfigure locales... but it do not allow me to choose the default locale
[08:18] <flujan> :(
[08:18] <harisund> yes Cvirus-Cilantro, in one command you should be able to convert all the .tex files into .pdf
[08:18] <Tauhshi> I have an AMD Turion 64 x2
[08:18] <DanieC> Anybody's Toshiba laptop can be restarted in Linux?
[08:18] <constantine-xvi> how do you disable wpasupplicant? it seems to give networkmanager problems
[08:18] <kastner> I'm having MAJOR issues getting php4-memcache on ubuntu server :/
[08:18] <BobSongs> alsamixer? I'll give it a whirl. I've tried re-installing the drivers, etc. I'll give alsamixer a whirl.
[08:18] <flujan> the gnome-language-selector do not allow me to choose the encoding as iso8859-1 :(
[08:18] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I'm RTFM'ing right now
[08:18] <Paddy_EIRE> Dodzey i have 948.2 of ram
[08:18] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: Thanks alot .. Thank you for your time
[08:18] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro RTFM of what?
[08:19] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: man pdflatex
[08:19] <BobSongs> Ahh, yes. alsamixer. I remember. Okay. I'll try tweaking it.
[08:19] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: ah, I like ubuntu also, but I don't know how to help you from here
[08:19] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro don't bother .. just go ahead and try pdflatex file_name.tex
[08:19] <gekko`_> what's the task knotify for? just to output sounds on errors?
[08:19] <Dodzey> paddy:you'll need a 512mb swap partition, and the rest is upto you depending on if you need to share files with windows isntallations or what not
[08:20] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I need to convert them all at a time
[08:20] <BobSongs> Thanks Dodzey.
[08:20] <Tauhshi> Would it be required to use a 64bit install for a 64bit processor? Or could I still use a 32Bit
[08:20] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I could manage .. dont bother .. Thanks alot
[08:20] <harisund> what did you use Cvirus-Cilantro?
[08:20] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: pdflatex
[08:20] <Dodzey> bobsongs:np, alsa mixer might not fix it, but its usually a bit better than the gui panel
[08:20] <harisund> I was thinking of using the find command .. how did you convert them all in one go? pdflatex allows for multiple files?
[08:21] <Samus_Aran> how do I completely stop all logrotating ?
[08:21] <BobSongs> Dodzey: you're probably right. But your help and thoughfulness is appreciated.
[08:21] <Ghagge> is there any way to install ubuntu with gnome but without all other packets?
[08:21] <Tamale> Hello, I'm having a pretty strange issue with my new rackmount computer install of dapper.  When I turn the computer on with a monitor attached, the resolution at x's startup is 1280x1024, which is what I want.  If I turn the machine on without the monitor turned on, it starts x at 640x480 and I can't make it any higher through VNC - 640x480 is the only option available.   How can I make 1280x1024 the default even if there is no monitor attached?
[08:22] <Paddy_EIRE> Dodzey is 512 sufficient for swap or could i do better i have 948.2 of ram
[08:22] <hellboy195> nickharvey : ok no problem thx ;)
[08:22] <jbroome> Tamale: i believe that's a VNC setting
[08:22] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: Xorg uses the monitor which is currently attached and turned on at startup to autodetect its parameters
[08:22] <Dodzey> paddy:i think you'll find 512mb to be fine, i have 1gb of ram and i havent yet seen ubuntu touch my swap
[08:22] <Blissex> Tamale: that happens because the X servers tries to read from the monitor the maximum resolution it can do, so it is dynamic. You need to put in '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' the monitor parameters statically.
[08:22] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: if no monitor is attached, then it doesn't know what hardware you have
[08:22] <Tamale> Samus:  That's what i was afraid of.  This computer will be going into a datacenter with no monitor attached
[08:22] <Dodzey> but then again, ive never done anything very ram intensive
[08:23] <harisund> Ghagge whatdo you mean "all other packets" ?
[08:23] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: the way to work around this is to set the horizontal and vertical sync rates in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, therefore bypassing autodetection
[08:23] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: could you help me do this?
[08:23] <Samus_Aran> Dodzey: I have 1.25GiB RAM and very often use up more than a half-gig of swap =p
[08:24] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: first off, you need to know the sync rate of the monitor which *will* be attached at some point
[08:24] <Dodzey> samus_aran: haha, what do you run on it?
[08:24] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: easiest way for that is Google for the model of that monitor
[08:24] <Tauhshi> Is Xubuntu worth a try?
[08:24] <Tamale> Samus:  Once it's in the datacenter it will never have a monitor attached.
[08:24] <harisund> Tuahshi definitely ... what are you looking for?
[08:25] <Tamale> Samus: All access will be through vnc
[08:25] <Tauhshi> Well, a "hopefully" windows replacement
[08:25] <Ghagge> harisund, i want a completely clean installation of ubuntu, basically only gnome and rdesktop, nothing else installed
[08:25] <harisund> Ghagge the default installation of Ubuntu you mean?
[08:25] <XVampireX> Ghagge: and what do you use?
[08:25] <harisund> Oh you mean you want to remove everything else you have installed currently?
[08:26] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: you said the problem was that when you start X without a monitor attached, it defaults to 640x480.  are you referring to X or VNC starting at 640x480 ?
[08:26] <Dodzey> Samus_Aran: im running flock, xchat, a terminal session, and rhythmbox under xgl/compiz and im using about 270mb of ram
[08:26] <daf-daf> Hi, I would like to know if I have been hacked for sure. I found i new wallpaper on my desktop saying "HAHAS UR COMPUTER HAS BEEN HAKKED" but strangely though my auth.log seems normal
[08:26] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: I would assume the problem is X.  VNC works fine at whatever resolution the computer is currently outputting.
[08:26] <Samus_Aran> Dodzey: we use multiseat here (two monitors, two keyboards, two mice)
[08:26] <flujan> guys, someone can help me installing locales?
[08:26] <Ghagge> harisund, well, if i use the default installation it installs openoffice, firefox etc, wich i dont want, will use the computers to connect to a terminal server, the harddrives are only 1.6Gb, the entire installation dont fit
[08:27] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: are you using X2VNC ?
[08:27] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: regular VNC or TightVNC do not use or affect a real X server in any way
[08:27] <Tamale> the server is the default gnome "remote desktop" and the viewer is windows realVNC
[08:27] <Dodzey> Samus_Aran:ahhh, that would push your resources a little then, i run dual monitor, but its nothing liek running a dual seat setup
[08:27] <BobSongs> Dodzey! You da man. Listen: you were right. It didn't solve the problem, but it shows that it's disabled and I cannot record. Under "Capture" the text above Mic (CAPTUR) is in red.
[08:27] <Tamale> i just need the computer to force a higher resolution i think.
[08:27] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: you set their resolution in the respective VNC startup script
[08:27] <flodine> why are the dang repositoies so slow
[08:27] <flodine> is the bill due
[08:27] <Tamale> lol
[08:27] <Dodzey> BobSongs:hmm, two seconds, what sound card you got?
[08:28] <Samus_Aran> Dodzey: KDE on one of the seats (spouses), icewm on the other (mine).  regularly run a lot of RAM intensive apps
[08:28] <harisund> Ghagge.. the only thing I am currently able to think of as a fix is to install the server version (which practically comes with nothing) and install just the gnome and rdesktop packages.. and not the ubuntu-desktop meta package which brings in all extra packages
[08:28] <Ghagge> harisund, yes, have tried installing just the server, but dont know how to install xserver and gnome afterwards
[08:29] <daf-daf> can auth.log be edited?
[08:29] <harisund> good point Ghagge .. I am afraid somebody else must help you out with that .. by the way have you tried an apt-get install of rdesktop? I am guessing the beauty of apt is such that it will pull along its required dependancies and nothing else..
[08:29] <Dodzey> BobSongs:that red 'Captur' afaik, shows you the current capture selection, which would be correct, cos you want it set to mic, move over to the right and make suer the capture faders are wacked up
[08:30] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: Can you help me put the necessary lines into my xorg.conf to force a certain resolution for X everytime, regardless of connected monitor?
[08:30] <Samus_Aran> Dodzey: e.g. we both have around 50 tabs open in Opera, we often use Xnest to give the kids their KDE desktop fullscreened when we're not using the computer, the gimp, gaim, gnu screen, apache, postfix, fetchmail, emulators, xmms2 with clients on each desktop, azureus (a RAM hog), livejournal updater, konqueror, gnu screen with dozens of screens (mc, bash, aptitude, etc.), etc.
[08:30] <XVampireX> Regarding ubuntu repositories, I don't know if it's a good place to post this, but I'd suggest a queue system, so the servers will never be so full/slow.
[08:30] <harisund> Samus_Aran I love Xnest :)
[08:30] <Tauhshi> When I boot the Ubuntu Desktop CD, it freezes and stops revving the disc at the ISOLINUX screen
[08:31] <Samus_Aran> Dodzey: as well as fullscreen games here and there
[08:31] <Krafturinn_> is there some other solution for me if I wanna share to windows xp on my network
[08:31] <Krafturinn_> other than samba
[08:31] <Dodzey> heh...i love xnest too, except when it screwed up my xorg settings and my compiz went berserko
[08:31] <BobSongs> Dodzey: that's the problem. I can adjust them everywhere except under Mic under Capture. Seems to be an odd problem. I booted into XP to see if it was a connection problem but XP records just fine. I may have to re-install.
[08:31] <harisund> Krafturinn_ any particular reason you don't want Samba?
[08:31] <Samus_Aran> harisund: I love it when it doesn't bug out and crash .. I think it is doing so because of the nVIDIA driver, which is not all that stable normally, and even less so in multiseat
[08:31] <Ghagge> harisund, yes, it installs rdesktop but that is all, am still without xserver and gnome then
[08:32] <harisund> hmm..ok .. Samus_Aran it crashes once a while for me too .. though I can't really complain
[08:32] <Dodzey> BobSongs:so you have gone to the capture page, gone to Mic hit space, then moved over to the right to the "capture" channel and turned it up?
[08:32] <harisund> Ghagge.. oh sorry .. rdesktop won't pull anything.. I think what you are looking for is a tsclient .. have you tried installing tsclinet?
[08:32] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I'll give it the ol' college try!
[08:32] <Krafturinn_> harisund:  : i didn't manage to set it up correctly .....
[08:32] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: X and VNC are entirely separate, unless you are running X2VNC
[08:32] <Ghagge> harisund, hmm, what is that?
[08:33] <harisund> Ghagge check out "apt-cache search tsclient" and "apt-cache show tsclient"
[08:33] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: I'm 99% sure the problem is X, not VNC.
[08:33] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: <Tamale> i just need the computer to force a higher resolution i think.  << you're missing the point here.  VNC and X are not the same thing.  a VNC server is *not* an X server, it completely ignores /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:33] <BobSongs> I hear sound from the mic through the speakers. That's not the issue. The PC is receiving the feed. I get a howling feedback if I raise the speaker volume too high.
[08:33] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: with the one exception of you using X2VNC, which is why I asked if that was the VNC you were using
[08:34] <harisund> Ghagge ..oh no .. looks like if you install tsclient it is going to pull along ubuntu-desktop ... damn .. hopefully that shouldn't be happening .
[08:34] <BobSongs> heehee. It might be an install issue. I'm still trying to tweak the alsamixer.
[08:34] <VR_> which mirror can i use for the repos?
[08:34] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: X2VNC uses your currently running X server to connect to with VNC, all other VNC servers start their own screen
[08:34] <harisund> Tamale you could use FreeNX if you know no monitor is going to be connected ...
[08:34] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: I know, but if I have the monitor ON, boot, then vnc to the box, i get 1280x1024.  If I have the monitor off, boot, vnc to the box, I get 640x480.
[08:34] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: you still haven't answered my question ... what VNC software are you running ?
[08:35] <Ghagge> harisund, haha, well il try to install it and hope it doesnt bring ubuntu-desktop
[08:35] <Tamale> I just enabled remote desktop.
[08:35] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: in what ?
[08:35] <Tamale> In ubuntu dapper
[08:35] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: how did you enable remote desktop ?
[08:35] <harisund> Ghagge let's hope so
[08:35] <harisund> Tamale remote desktop is a VNC server that exports the current display .. so somebody will have to be logged in for it to work
[08:35] <Tamale> system - preferences - remote desktop
[08:36] <tuxtux> ciao
[08:36] <gandalfcome> I have ubuntu dapper drake installed and am using gnome with and xgl server. My problem: I gave my NIC a static ip address but it seems to forget it every few minutes and I have to deactivate and then activate it again via the network manager that it gets it again
[08:36] <Tamale> harisund:  I bypassed that problem by enabling auto-login
[08:36] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: if the server will only be used part of the time, I recommend setting up VNC with a display manager, so that when someone connects to the server, it will pop up a user login screen, and if someone else logs in, it will do the same thing (spawning a second, separate VNC server)
[08:36] <harisund> Tamale .. nice.. so now technically you can use any VNC server to login
[08:36] <harisund> I eman, vnc client tamale
[08:36] <Tamale> RIght
[08:36] <Tamale> it works fine
[08:36] <Tamale> I just have the resolution problem
[08:36] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: okay so that is your problem right there: you are using X2VNC
[08:36] <flujan> guys, how can I set a default locale since dpkg-reconfigure locales does not work anymore?
[08:37] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: switch to VNC or TightVNC or another one that does not use a real X server
[08:37] <BobSongs> Dodsey: Mic is set to "capture". I can hear the sound thru the speakers. But Audacity or Sound Recorder isn't capturing the feed.
[08:37] <BobSongs> Well.
[08:37] <Tamale> I am the only one who will ever connect to it.
[08:37] <BobSongs> Thanks for your help. I'll re-install.
[08:37] <Tomze> flujan: maybe edit /etc/locale.gen by hand?
[08:37] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: there is no reason to be using a real X server, if there is no local user.  it uses more resources and will run into driver issues if you use binary drivers (such as nVIDIA)
[08:37] <gandalfcome> why does my ubuntu (6.06) forget its static ip adress after a few minutes
[08:38] <Tamale> It's just using the stock ati drivers, and I actually need decent graphic support for a windows program i'll be running through wine.
[08:38] <Dodzey> BobSongs: I am not too sure whether a re-isntall will solve it, but its worth a shot i suppose
[08:38] <harisund> so ghagge tried anything out?
[08:38] <nu> k
[08:38] <nu> !nvidia
[08:38] <doommssph1609> salut
[08:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:39] <doommssph1609> ok
[08:39] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: so you need OpenGL support on the VNC server ?  if that is the case, X2VNC [what you're using]  is the only way.  it still isn't very efficient to be using that over a network.  anyhow, do what I said initially, set the modelines for the monitor
[08:39] <BobSongs> Dodzey: well, this IS a re-install. And the mic has worked before. Note: I put a DVD into the DVD drive and captured the dialog in Sound Recorder. So capturing seems to works. Just ... not from the Microphone.
[08:40] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: it will default to 640x480 unless it detects a monitor or has the sync ranges
[08:40] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: I'm not sure how to add a monitor and modes manually.  Could you help?
[08:40] <BobSongs> But I've got my settings all stored for stuff like Firefox, etc. It's not a huge hassle.
[08:40] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: run "alsamixer" in a terminal and press Tab once to get to the selection of recording devices
[08:41] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: again: the monitor that is currently attached to it (during setup), look up its hor. and vert. sync rates.  if you will never again until the end of time have a monitor attached to it, then you can use any monitors sync ranges [that supports 1280x1024]
[08:42] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: Yep. Thanks. I'm there and have done exactly that. And it isn't solving the problem. When I reboot in XP it works. So it's not a wiring issue. Dapper is receiving the feed cuz I hear sound out of the speakers.
[08:42] <flujan> Tomze, i do not have this file in my system.
[08:42] <flujan> :(
[08:42] <BobSongs> This is where I wish I had a good 10 years experience under my belt! lol
[08:42] <gandalfcome> My ubuntu keeps loosing my ip adress after a few minutes any ideas?
[08:43] <Tomze> flujan: one more thing ubuntu does different from debian.. sorry dude :)
[08:43] <Dodzey> BobSongs:ive just switched to my mobo's onboard sound (I use a Delta 1010lt recording card usually) and im having a similar problem
[08:43] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: I can get the information.  I just don't know how to put it into xorg.conf
[08:43] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: the microphone has an entry on the main alsamixer screen, that controls whether you heard it out of the speakers in realtime (normally you turn this off to avoid feedback).  the second screen with the input devices has one entry for each recording device (line in, mic, cd/dvd, wave, etc.).  there may also be a gain setting which is required to turn up or on before the mic recording will be loud enough to hear
[08:43] <flujan> Tomze, ok no problem... but i need to put the locale in pt.BR-ISO8859-1
[08:43] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: How it should be formatted, what the syntax is, etc.
[08:44] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Hmm. Interesting. You hear the sound thru the speakers but it won't record. Gotcha.
[08:44] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: if you have audacity installed, it can be handy for realtime recording, as you can see if it is getting any signal
[08:44] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: Oh yeah. I really, really,
[08:44] <BobSongs> REALLY like Audacity.
[08:44] <Networker> having trouble with the repositories, can't find a list of mirrors.. can someone point me in the right direction
[08:44] <Tomze> flujan: what about the command locale-gen?
[08:44] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: personally I hate audacity, it can't be used for any largish projects due to a horrendous programming flaw
[08:45] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: when you press "play" in audacity, it loads the ENTIRE wave sequence into RAM
[08:45] <gandalfcome> can someone help me with my ubuntu: it looses the set static ip adress after a few minutes
[08:45] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: so for a CD length wave file in 24bit format, it would take gigs of RAM when you press play ...
[08:45] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: Ahh! In Linux I cannot get it to record a second track while the first plays back as it does in Windows.
[08:45] <BobSongs> Yeah.
[08:46] <flujan> Tomze, it generates the locale pt_BR-ISO8859-1
[08:46] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: you're right. That's huge. What do you use instead?
[08:46] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: if you want decent music and mixing software, check out Ardour (a high end app that supports unlimited input and output channels, realtime effects and an awsome interface) and RoseGarden
[08:46] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: I haven't used RoseGarden, myself, but it is used for digital music generation
[08:46] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[08:46] <Dodzey> BobSongs:i was just about to say ardour myself
[08:46] <sorush20> what is the best way to install the minimal ubuntu-gnome desktop since I'm already using most of the applications in kubuntu?
[08:46] <flujan> Tomze, http://pastebin.ca/115604
[08:46] <wubrgamer> i'm having an issue with a new monitor i just got myself
[08:47] <wubrgamer> in GDM, there is no menu bar
[08:47] <flujan> Tomze, but how can I define the default locale?
[08:47] <wubrgamer> the entire bottom portion of the screen is gone
[08:47] <flujan> i put the pt_BR.ISO8859-1 in the /etc/environment
[08:47] <flujan> but i still have this message:
[08:47] <schlumbergera> hi
[08:47] <Tamale> wubrgamer: You're sure it's not just "off" the visible area of the screen, right?
[08:48] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: I wouldn't mind paying for some decent software if it comes down to it. But if ardour seems to be the software of choice, then I'll go for it.
[08:48] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: Ardour reads all files off the hard drive, and applies all effects in realtime, meaning it doesn't modify anything on the hard drive.  if you crossfade two tracks, that is just stored in a tiny data file, the actual crossfading is done in realtime when you play.  it uses almost no RAM compared to Audacity, and lets you play backward or forward at any speed with mouse drags
[08:48] <wubrgamer> it IS off the visible area of the screen
[08:48] <wubrgamer> but i can't drag the area up
[08:48] <schlumbergera> http://nopaste.debianforum.de/3829
[08:48] <wubrgamer> nor reposition it
[08:48] <BobSongs> Samus_Aram: WOW!
[08:48] <bangalore_guy> hi fyrestrtr
[08:48] <wubrgamer> the issues isn't with the monitor
[08:48] <bosco> has anyone here updated to EDGY yet
[08:48] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: check out both RoseGarden and Ardour, and ask in #Ardour for other suggestions -- it is a great channel, very active with the developers and users of Ardour (many of whom use other high end apps as well)
[08:49] <Tomze> flujan: i should not answer questions about ubuntu i think :) but in /etc/locale.gen on my debian install i got more then one local.. alle are commented out (#) except my default one
[08:49] <Dodzey> BobSongs:its good, but your still stuffed if you can't get capture working
[08:49] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> basco: Yes but not very stable lol
[08:49] <schlumbergera> http://nopaste.debianforum.de/3829 - but there is a /dev/md0, possibly a conflict between hotplug and udev? i use ubuntu breezy
[08:49] <Tamale> wubrgamer: what happens when you try to pan the image up?
[08:49] <wubrgamer> it doesn't go up enough
[08:49] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: Ardour also supports a few standard plugin architectures, so many GNU/Linux and most Win32 audio plugins can be used with it (again, in realtime)
[08:49] <FiberOptics> Hi how can I 'Remote Desktop Connection' from Windows to Ubuntu?
[08:49] <Rinnt> Hi everyone.  I was wondering if any here could help me with an error Im getting while trying to get the Citrix client to work.  The errror is:" Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged"
[08:49] <wubrgamer> i'm using a syncmaster 204b btw
[08:49] <Rinnt> any ideas?
[08:49] <wubrgamer> it's a samsung
[08:50] <NickGarvey> FiberOptics: you want to control ubuntu from windows?
[08:50] <BobSongs> Thanks again, Dodzey. You too, Samus_Aran. I'll check out Ardour... AFTER I re-install. BTW, I'm an old Windows hand. So re-installing is just par for the course. ;)
[08:50] <Samus_Aran> Tamale:    HorizSync    30 - 107
[08:50] <Samus_Aran> Tamale:    VertRefresh  50 - 160
[08:50] <FiberOptics> NickGarvey: Yes, well atleast login via Remote Desktop Connection.
[08:50] <Dodzey> BobSongs:haha, the same here
[08:50] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: those are my modelines for one of my monitors (a Dell UltraScan 1600HS D1626HT 21" up to 1600x1200)
[08:50] <BobSongs> Well. This IRC experience has been really, really cool. Far better than I thought.
[08:50] <BobSongs> I'm coming back!
[08:50] <BobSongs> :)
[08:50] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: it goes into the Section "Monitor" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:50] <NickGarvey> :)
[08:51] <harisund> BobSongs, is this your first time?
[08:51] <BobSongs> I spend a lot of time at Ubuntu Forums. But this is a first. And it's super cool.
[08:51] <RunUO763> Oi mates
[08:51] <bosco> has anyone here updated to EDGY yet
[08:51] <RunUO763> Bobsonds IRC rox
[08:51] <schlumbergera> hello?
[08:51] <FiberOptics> BobSongs: Well I guess it's a big welcome :-)
[08:51] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: welcome to IRC, FreeNode, GNU/Linux, Open Source and Free software.  and do check out #Ardour
[08:51] <BobSongs> harisund: Yeah. First time. And loving it.
[08:51] <NickGarvey> FiberOptics: let me read up a bit on this, I have it set up on suse but I want to skim how to do it ubuntu :)
[08:51] <BobSongs> lol
[08:51] <BobSongs> Yeah; IRC rocks!
[08:51] <FiberOptics> NickGarvey: Okay mate.
[08:51] <Dodzey> BobSongs:just out of curiousity, what card do you ahve?
[08:51] <FiberOptics> BobSongs: It sure does :)
[08:51] <RunUO763> IRC FTW
[08:52] <FiberOptics> NickGarvey: It's possible though right?
[08:52] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: I find the signal to noise ratio far, far higher on IRC than other chat mediums (such as instant messengers)
[08:52] <bangalore_guy> for the past one week, i have been trying to configure my internet connection with Ubuntu. Its not happening. can someone please help me?
[08:52] <Samus_Aran> so much time is wasted clicking pop-ups in instant messengers
[08:52] <BobSongs> Ah. Forgive my sloppiness and noobiness. Celeron generic machine; 512 Mb RAM; SoundBlaster LIVE! 5.1, nVidia vidcard
[08:52] <Dodzey> haha singal to noise ratio, good analogy there
[08:52] <Samus_Aran> bangalore_guy: what is your type of connection ?
[08:52] <RunUO763> Samus_ARan what IM u use in gods name?
[08:52] <NickGarvey> FiberOptics: yes, but I am not sure how to get it to allow you to log in
[08:52] <FiberOptics> Ok NickGarvey
[08:53] <Samus_Aran> RunUO763: I haven't used an instant messenger since ICQ around 5 years ago
[08:53] <bangalore_guy> samus_aran, static-ip based connection. i just need to configure my eth card
[08:53] <Dodzey> BobSongs: I recorded my first bands demo with a soundblaster live
[08:53] <FiberOptics> NickGarvey: Do you know what software I'll need on my Windows Box?
[08:53] <NickGarvey> FiberOptics: well to start off,  sudo apt-get install vnc-common tightvncserver
[08:53] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: LOL!! But still, following the threads through the noise took me all of 3 minutes to get "into".
[08:53] <wubrgamer> so anyideas guys ?
[08:53] <NickGarvey> FiberOptics: yes, there is a program called "tightvnc viewer" which you should be able to find very easily through google
[08:53] <Samus_Aran> bangalore_guy: when you boot up, does Ubuntu automatically install the module for your ethernet card ?  e.g. if you go "ifconfig eth0" does it tell you "no such device" or does it display a few lines of text ?
[08:53] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Do you mess around with the Ubuntu Studio IRC?
[08:54] <bangalore_guy> ifconfig eth0 tells me that its up
[08:54] <RunUO763> Anyway i have a LAMP server, but i decided i dont need it anymore so i wanne set up a NAS/PrintServer/*something else cool?*
[08:54] <pauldaoust> hey, folks, does anyone know why Synaptic would be trying to uninstall totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin in the most recent batch of updates?
[08:54] <Dodzey> BobSongs: no, I do all my serious audio recording under XP (i know! i shouldn't!) but I have to make use of my Cubase, it cost me too much to throw to the side
[08:54] <RunUO763> pauldaoust conflicts with some other packages
[08:55] <epimer> hi guys
[08:55] <epimer> does automatix over-write your sources.list?
[08:55] <FiberOptics> Ok thanks NickGarvey I'm going to go and install that on ubuntu, be back later, leme know if you find out anything,
[08:55] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: I mean IRC has more real content than pretty much all other online chat mediums put together.  it tends to be fairly overwhelming at first, as there are thousands of channels spanning hundreds of networks and thousands of individual servers
[08:55] <ucordes> hey all! anybody tried out the Ubuntu System Panel?
[08:55] <Dodzey> BobSongs: I find the experience generally easier when i have band members breathing down my neck telling me that they want to be louder and "where the hell has my snare gone"
[08:55] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[08:55] <gidim> Well, I decided to LiveCD it at first, I'm on from gAIM in Ubuntu. :D
[08:55] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: also most IRC clients tend to be for power users, so they themselves can be a bit sticky at first
[08:55] <pauldaoust> RunUO763: well, certainly, but has this been happening to everybody, and has totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin been rolled into another package or something?
[08:55] <NickGarvey> FiberOptics: you should look into ssh for remote admin also
[08:56] <RunUO763> i hate mIRC :| and windows
[08:56] <RunUO763> but iam on both =[
[08:56] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> lol
[08:56] <NickGarvey> RunUO763: gaim has an irc client
[08:56] <ucordes> RunU0763: why?
[08:56] <[Wiebel] > humz, is there no SDL_gui package in ubuntu?
[08:56] <RunUO763> putting that aside.. anyone know a linux prgm which compares to Mac-OSX FrontRow or WindowsXP-MCE?
[08:56] <BobSongs> Dodzey: woah, woah. Listen. XP is not that bad. I'm not a zealot. I paid for my XP and my music software. My XP just no longer roams the net. Too many spyware thugs out there.
[08:56] <Samus_Aran> I personally love mIRC.  my only complaint about it is it being proprietary.  mIRC has more features than all other IRC clients combined, and uses less RAM than irssi [my current console-only client]
[08:56] <ucordes> NickGarvey: Does it support xdcc?
[08:56] <FiberOptics> Ok NickGarvey
[08:57] <Ghagge> anyone that can help on how to install xserver with apt-get?
[08:57] <RunUO763> ucordes this is my CS box and my server is out of breath atm :P
[08:57] <ucordes> :-)
[08:57] <khaled_> guys, what is the best msn messenger on linux ???
[08:57] <RunUO763> Khaled_ i liked gaim
[08:57] <Samus_Aran> I haven't had a Windows install since my copy of Win98 died, so it hasn't been an option to use mIRC on GNU/Linux (despite what people say, no, it does not run properly on WINE)
[08:57] <pauldaoust> khaled_: I haven't signed into a messenger program for a year or two :)
[08:57] <Ghagge> khaled_, i would probably say amsn
[08:57] <Dodzey> BobSongs: ohh, i agree, it's served me well, my DAW installation doesn't even have drivers installed for my wireless card, let alone connected to the internet
[08:57] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: I feared the power-users and didn't want to come here. After a mere seven months I still feel so awkward.
[08:57] <ucordes> khaled: depends on what features you need. for chat only and smileys GAIM is enough
[08:57] <RunUO763> Khaled_ but mercury messenger is really cool if u can handle the resource drag
[08:57] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> Khaled: I would suggest amsn
[08:57] <bosco> khaled_, for msn specifcly that has webcan sopport AMSN
[08:58] <khaled_> yea, but i want something that really look like windows msn
[08:58] <bosco> khaled_, it looks just like MSN in windows
[08:58] <RunUO763> Khaled_ u want commmercials and shitty popups?
[08:58] <ucordes> bosco: do you use the webcam feature of amsn?
[08:58] <flixil> kopete has support also
[08:58] <khaled_> no
[08:58] <bosco> khaled_, i dont now but i have and so have my friends
[08:58] <abhinay> anyone can you tell me of a good dock for gnome ?
[08:58] <RunUO763> kopete is shittu when u have 500+ contacts
[08:58] <Samus_Aran> ew, MSN,
[08:58] <bosco> khaled_, does everything that MSN does plus some
[08:58] <flixil> RunUO763: i don't have such a huge
[08:58] <BobSongs> lol
[08:58] <bosco> khaled_, and is open source not propritary
[08:58] <BobSongs> How do you guys do that?
[08:58] <ucordes> haha
[08:59] <BobSongs> Thats funny.
[08:59] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: the action you mean ?
[08:59] <BobSongs> Yeah.
[08:59] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: /me does something
[08:59] <BobSongs> It's a hoot!
[08:59] <RunUO763> o.. say /*ME txt without the *
[08:59] <Dodzey> haha, msn sucks, too much downtime, it just dies for no reason, but i have to use their networks as most of my friends use msn
[08:59] <khaled_> bosco: it seems that u really like it
[08:59] <Ghagge> anyone that knows how to install the xserver using apt-get on a dapper server installation?
[08:59] <RunUO763> Dodzey msn has no downtime ever here in the netherlands
[08:59] <BobSongs> I do dislike MSN.
[08:59] <BobSongs> :(
[08:59] <khaled_> so the options r: gaim, aMSN, mercury
[08:59] <RunUO763> only w. msn>msnlive swith
[08:59] <RunUO763> Khaled_ and kopete
[08:59] <khaled_> i will try them all and choose the best that suits me
[09:00] <khaled_> ok RunU...
[09:00] <khaled_> thx
[09:00] <BobSongs> lol
[09:00] <ucordes> i dislike icq :-(
[09:00] <BobSongs> Cool.
[09:00] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: IRC is full of commands.  the main ones are /who /msg /dcc /me /join.  most IRC clients will let you go "/help /command" or "/help command" without the slash
[09:00] <RunUO763> anyone know howto get a linux-box which compares to Mac-OSX FrontRow or WindowsXP-MCE?
[09:00] <Dodzey> msn live was an improvement, but i won't reap the **benefits** (hmm??!?) as i now use ubuntu and GAIM
[09:00] <ucordes> they save all traffic on central servers
[09:00] <RunUO763> icq has cool sounds
[09:00] <ucordes> so they know when i ordered weed
[09:00] <ucordes> lmao
[09:00] <gidim> I miss ICQ 2003b. ICQ5 is evil and must be destroyed,
[09:00] <abhinay> iam just get confusing , is it ubuntu channel ?
[09:00] <Tomze> center icq.. does it all
[09:00] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: Excellent! Thanks for lifting up a noob.
[09:00] <ucordes> Tomze: what's the deal about center icq?
[09:00] <RunUO763> abhinay this is #ubuntu yes
[09:00] <bosco> khaled_,  i use it for everyday use with my MSN contacts when i need a webcam anymore i stopped using gaim cuz i had to switch back and forth from gaim to my web browser but for just chatting now i use MEEBO.COM you cant transrer files or view webcam there but i have a widget on my webpage that lets people chat with me on Meebo.com from my websist
[09:01] <khaled_> i can't find mercury on the list
[09:01] <RunUO763> khaled_ www.mercury.to
[09:01] <Tomze> ucordes: everything in a _screen_
[09:01] <RunUO763> i made a skin for it once
[09:01] <RunUO763> when i was a kid
[09:01] <abhinay> can youtell me a good dock for gnome ?
[09:01] <bosco> khaled_, meebo.com is ajax
[09:01] <wubrgamer> so guys
[09:01] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: there are two types of commands, ones that get sent to the server, and ones that the IRC client itself handles.  for example on FreeNode there are the commands "nickserv", "memoserv" and "chanserv" (for handling nickname registration, sending messages when someone isn't on IRC and registering channels)
[09:01] <khaled_> ok bosco, i will try it too, thx
[09:01] <wubrgamer> does gdm support wide screens
[09:01] <bosco> khaled_, no prob
[09:02] <Dodzey> RunUO763:check out MythTV
[09:02] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: most IRC clients will send a command to the IRC server, if it doesn't know what the command is.  so if you go "/nickserv help" (which is a server command), it will probably send it to FreeNode
[09:02] <Samus_Aran> RunUO763: do you have a 1982 high radiation CRT ?
[09:02] <dreameen> where do iget the most up-to-date sources.lisT?
[09:03] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: Were those modelines that you gave me for 1280x1024?
[09:03] <Samus_Aran> RunUO763: one time my monitor died and I had to use my 286's monitor ... my god that thing put out a ton of radiation !  it only did 640x480 as well, heh
[09:03] <RunUO763> Samus_aran i have an old HP pavilion v70s 17inch CRT which is trying to kill me by making me bleed outa my eyes
[09:03] <Dodzey> BobSongs:i got my capture working
[09:03] <khaled_> bosco: do u really trust meebo.com, bc i donna like givin my pswd to a 3rd party, wht do u think?
[09:03] <RunUO763> khaled_ sec
[09:03] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Wow! What didja do?
[09:04] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: <Samus_Aran> Tamale: those are my modelines for one of my monitors (a Dell UltraScan 1600HS D1626HT 21" up to 1600x1200)
[09:04] <Tamale> khaled:  I'd never use an important password for an instant messenger account regardless of what IM client I use./
[09:04] <Dodzey> BobSongs: to be honest, im not sure, i messed with the settigns lots, and it just started workin
[09:04] <Dodzey> working*
[09:04] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: you should replace them with your own modelines, if you will ever attach a real monitor
[09:04] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Workin works.
[09:04] <bosco> khaled_, it is not open source but it may be a third parry but they are trusted and you are not really giving them your password they are jst the middle man for MSM server ETC....
[09:04] <RunUO763> Khaled_ most IM have a legit online version
[09:04] <bosco> khaled_, and others
[09:04] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: additionally, if you do not want 1600x1200, you should add a line for 1280x1024 as the default resolution
[09:04] <polishkoop> I'm having trouble getting ndiswrapper to work on dapper.  I blacklisted the bcm4306 drivers, got the windows driver installed, and configured my device.  But it doesn
[09:04] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: I suppose I should use the most "standard" modelines possible then, for 1280x1024.
[09:05] <RunUO763> ok Anyway... :P
[09:05] <polishkoop> it doesn't connect to my network
[09:05] <RunUO763> MythTV is not what iam looking for
[09:05] <bosco> khaled_, you are doing the same thing with GAIM when you use it
[09:05] <Dodzey> BobSongs: before you reinstall, want to have one more go at going through your alsa settings?
[09:05] <khaled_> Tamale: but the prob is that the pswd of the msg is the same as the pswd of the email.
[09:05] <Tamale> Samus_Aran:  Can we talk in a smaller channel?  I'd like to get some actual lines of xorg.conf code verified by you if you don't mind
[09:05] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I'll tinker more... but normally it works out of the box.
[09:06] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: every monitor is different, that is why Xorg autodetects.  the monitor tells X what its valid ranges are, thereby avoiding using the wrong modes ever.  Windows lets the driver set the modelines (unless you just choose one of the standard monitors), which can cause problems if you change monitors
[09:06] <MrFatJack> I want to install the latest hplip (1.6.7). The one that the Synaptic manager shows is .9.7-4. How do gain access to the latest package?
[09:06] <RunUO763> i really want a MAC-OSX FrontRow type of GUI for my soon 2 be awsome media-box
[09:06] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: feel free to DCC Chat or Query me
[09:06] <bosco> are ther updates for synaptic it self
[09:06] <LnxSlck> hello everyone
[09:06] <MrFatJack> i'm current
[09:06] <bosco> like synaptic verson 2.0
[09:06] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I hate giving up so soon. But I feel like I'm working on a huge car engine.
[09:06] <Samus_Aran> bosco: one would assume so
[09:06] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: Please join channel #tamale when you get the chance
[09:06] <ucordes> anybody knows a nice video chatting community?
[09:06] <whiter> how can i  see my system information
[09:06] <khaled_> but gaim is open source, so it is secure... plus it's supported by ubuntu :)
[09:06] <whiter> like my processor clock and stuff
[09:06] <BobSongs> LnxSlx: Greets.
[09:06] <Samus_Aran> bosco: though it will inform you of such, when you do "mark all upgrades"
[09:06] <Samus_Aran> whiter: that depends on what system information you want
[09:07] <LnxSlck> anyone can help me setup my 5.1 channel sound ?
[09:07] <Dodzey> BobSongs:heh, have you tried reinstalling the alsa packages?
[09:07] <whiter> i want my processor speed
[09:07] <whiter> witouth having to cat cpuinfo btw
[09:07] <Samus_Aran> whiter: I wrote a script which collects a great deal of system info, if you want to try it out
[09:07] <whiter> alright
[09:07] <whiter> lets see it
[09:07] <bosco> khaled_, well it is up to you i have had no problems with  meebo.com since day one and nor has any of my other friends
[09:07] <RunUO763> Hit me
[09:07] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Oh yeah. That scared me. It warned that, like, half my O/S was going the way of the Dodo bird.
[09:07] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: for some reason DCC and query don't work very well in gaim for me
[09:07] <khaled_> bosco: yea, thx anyway
[09:07] <Samus_Aran> SYSTEM i686 Ubuntu (Debian) GNU/Linux, Kernel 2.6.15-26-k7, LIBC 2.3.6, GNU Bash Shell | CPU AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+, 2172Mhz, 512KB Cache, 4348 BMIPs | MEM 834/1264MB RAM Used, 123/5773MB Swap Used | STORAGE 19GB ReiserFS, 2x278GB ReiserFS, 6x633MB TmpFS | STATS Uptime 3.69d, Users 2(16), Procs 154(3128616), Load 2.20 | X11 1600x1200x24bit (+1 more X server) | http://auk.ca/v
[09:08] <bosco>  Samus_Aran   so i can upgrade to synaptic 2.0 ...... therireticly
[09:08] <Dodzey> BobSongs:which packages did you try to reinstall?
[09:08] <whiter> Samus, can i have that
[09:08] <Samus_Aran> whiter: go to the URL at the end to get it, if that's what you want
[09:08] <whiter> k
[09:08] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I mean, how am I, a noob, supposed to react to finding out that removing alsa will cause 'ubuntu-desktop' to be uninstalled. lol
[09:08] <auk> yes, Samus_Aran?
[09:08] <dr_willis> Removing alsa? Geee....
[09:08] <BobSongs> Dodzey: So: I did it. And the desktop disappeared.
[09:08] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: dependancies are a funny thing, heh
[09:08] <BobSongs> Then I reinstalled all the bits and pieces. It seems fine now.
[09:09] <Dodzey> BobSongs:you actually removed it? hmmm.....try reinstalling the config packages and the like
[09:09] <RunUO763> BobSongs iam a linux noob.. basically how i work is format > make something work > understand why it works > format > apply previos knowledge and make something new work
[09:09] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: no kidding! heeheehee. Scared me good.
[09:09] <dr_willis> Hmm.. i wouldent think that removing ubuntu-desktop would remove much - since its a Meta-package.
[09:09] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: just don't try to remove "glibc", lol.  that would pretty much install the entire distro
[09:09] <Samus_Aran> *uninstall
[09:09] <BobSongs> RunUO763: Gotcha. Well, I've been re-installing Windows since *gasp* version 3.0.
[09:10] <Samus_Aran> the GNU C Library, used by 90% of the software on your system.  I wonder if Ubuntu even lets you remove it
[09:10] <Blinker> hey guys, I need to know if and how I can log as a different user in terminal
[09:10] <mathan> wow o_o lots of users
[09:10] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: Okay. Uninstalling glibc now... wait! Nooooooo! *zZZzzzZZzaaaap!*
[09:10] <RunUO763> BobSongs i missed all that .. iam 18 and started the formatting with 2000 and XP
[09:10] <Dodzey> BobSongs:a wild guess but try marking alsa-base for reinstall and apply it, if it gives you scary warnings just leave it
[09:10] <gidim> So, this is how the other half lives?
[09:10] <LnxSlck> anyone can help me setup my 5.1 channel sound ??
[09:10] <frying_fish> Blinker: easily
[09:11] <frying_fish> (assuming you have more than one user)
[09:11] <dr_willis> LnxSlck,  i just mirror the front speakers to the rear in the mixers
[09:11] <TuxSurfer> hello-can somebody tell me if you have to have an active internet connection to install ubuntu?
[09:11] <Dodzey> dr_willis:thats cheating...haha
[09:11] <BobSongs> I don't fear Scary Warnings anymore. I fought Zurg and I won!! (Ref: Toy Story II)
[09:11] <RunUO763> TuxSurfer no
[09:11] <PF-Away> is the enhanced ctorrent available somehow in ubuntu?
[09:11] <Blinker> frying_fish: I'm running off the install cd, and need to get back to my installed account (restoring/recovering files)
[09:11] <LnxSlck> dr_willis, how do tou do that ?
[09:11] <frying_fish> if so, then if you want a real terminal, pick one (ctrl+alt+Fn) n = the number of the terminal, if not, open an xterm of some description and type sudo su USER
[09:11] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  ive yet to find any real 5.1 sound to play under linux.
[09:11] <Samus_Aran> I started on Commodore 64's, then moved on to an 8088 with DOS 3.1 and a green monochrome monitor
[09:11] <svu> is there any way to setup LVM during the ubuntu install procedure?
[09:11] <TuxSurfer> thanks runU0763
[09:11] <lontra> is f-spot not available in dapper?
[09:11] <PF-Away> svu: yes
[09:11] <dr_willis> LnxSlck,  slide the sliders arount  till it does it. :P
[09:11] <PF-Away> svu: choose it when partitioning
[09:11] <frying_fish> ok, so you have installed / are installing?
[09:12] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I believe that was one of the packages I initially DID remove. Verifying now. . .
[09:12] <LnxSlck> dr_willis, tryed that... doesn't work
[09:12] <Samus_Aran> dr_willis: just download a movie trailer in 5.1, or play a DVD ... ?
[09:12] <RunUO763> TuxSurfer just pop in the CD and it will install an entire operational machine.. atleast u beter hope so (6)
[09:12] <Dodzey> dr_willis:i've never attempted it :P, im sure it'll be possible though
[09:12] <frying_fish> and if you just want access to the files, then mount the partition as /home (the one that was /home)
[09:12] <Blinker> frying_fish: yes
[09:12] <svu> PF-Away, I am trying to setup the flag 'lvm' - but it still asks for the explicit mount points (CD with edge)
[09:12] <TuxSurfer> thats great thanks
[09:12] <dr_willis> Samus_Aran,  does the dvd players under linux even support it? never noticed.. heck ive never notuced under windows either.
[09:12] <ucordes> is the logitech quick cam plugn play?
[09:12] <PF-Away> svu: i'm really a gentoo guy, just trying out ubuntu on a server here, and I saw the LVM choice
[09:12] <dr_willis> Samus_Aran,  only 5.1 i can think of was in some games. :P
[09:12] <nuaimat> hello
[09:12] <PF-Away> :P
[09:13] <svu> PF-Away, :))
[09:13] <frying_fish> ucordes: most likely
[09:13] <RunUO763> dudes i found something sweet check it out > http://equinux.com
[09:13] <frying_fish> mine was.
[09:13] <RunUO763> tahts what i was lookin for
[09:13] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Yep. 'alsa-base' and 'alsa-tools' were removed. It wiped away 'ubuntu-desktop' in the flood.
[09:13] <ucordes> frying_fish: how can i try it out?
[09:13] <lontra> where can i get a list of mirrors?
[09:13] <MrFatJack> I want to install the latest hplip (1.6.7). The one that the Synaptic manager shows is .9.7-4. How do gain access to the latest package?
[09:13] <frying_fish> ucordes: plug it in??
[09:13] <frying_fish> and then type lsusb at a terminal
[09:13] <frying_fish> and see if it shows up there
[09:13] <ucordes> frying_fish: and then... ?
[09:13] <BobSongs> Dodzey: 'linux-sound-base' was also swept away in the torrent.
[09:13] <frying_fish> and then you can try xsane
[09:13] <RunUO763> my nick is really shitty
[09:13] <nuaimat> hi guys, i have ubuntu drapper , i use dial up connection , i dont want ubuntu to start dial up connection automatically upon startup , how can i control this ??
[09:14] <frying_fish> then change it...
[09:14] <ucordes> frying_fish: lsmsg recognizes it
[09:14] <Dodzey> BobSongs:i don't have alsa-tools installed, im guessing its because the SB live (uses 10k1 dsp) needs it
[09:14] <BobSongs> Dodzey: It was removed with the '--purge' optoin.
[09:14] <PF-Away> what is the name of the gnome cd burner?
[09:14] <BobSongs> Dodzey: No doubt.
[09:14] <manmadha> PF-Away, gnome breaker
[09:14] <ucordes> frying_fish: "ID 046d:0850 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Web"    but how can i caputre video/audio with it?
[09:15] <manmadha> PF-Away, it is better to try k3b
[09:15] <PF-Away> gnomebaker?
[09:15] <PaoloC> join #ubuntu +1
[09:15] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Oh, and 'gdm' was also submerged.
[09:15] <nuaimat> help me please guys,  i have ubuntu drapper , i use dial up connection , i dont want ubuntu to start dial up connection automatically upon startup , how can i control this ??
[09:15] <frying_fish> ucordes: xsane will definately capture pictures
[09:15] <dr_willis> !dialup
[09:15] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[09:15] <manmadha> PF-Away, ya it is better to install k3b w
[09:15] <frying_fish> and then I know amsn works with it.
[09:15] <manmadha> k3b
[09:15] <PF-Away> i myself have k3b
[09:15] <Dodzey> BobSongs:haha, sounds like you took out everything relating to gnome when you did that
[09:15] <PF-Away> but someone else on gnome wants a basic cd burner
[09:15] <Blissex> nuaimat: if it is connecting almost surely you have configured some server to do a DNS lookup at startup.
[09:16] <frying_fish> manmadha: not if you use gnome its not
[09:16] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I was really wanting to avoid using the "Oh well, it doesn't work... let's reinstall" mentality.
[09:16] <frying_fish> no point having one kde app that doesn't integrate with the rest well and won't look nice.
[09:16] <Blissex> nuaimat: almost surely that is happening because there is some missing name in '/etc/hosts', usually the name you gave to your PC.
[09:16] <manmadha> frying_fish, ya
[09:16] <Dodzey> BobSongs: yeah, but, it doesn't work, you really should install :p
[09:16] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[09:16] <manmadha> frying_fish, u r right
[09:16] <Blinker> does the ubuntu install CD uses itself to emulate the filesystem? the files I'm trying to find arent showing up?
[09:16] <wubrgamer> i'm almost through this issue
[09:16] <BobSongs> Dodzey: the next step is *shudder* recompiling my kernel. Not something recommended for people with weak constitutions.
[09:16] <wubrgamer> HOW DO I CONFIGURE X DURING GDM !
[09:16] <frying_fish> gnomebaker seems to have most functionality
[09:16] <RunUO763> wubrgamer whats up?
[09:17] <wubrgamer> i'm not getting the best refresh rate during GDM
[09:17] <RunUO763> wubrgamer by entering the correct command in a terminal
[09:17] <frying_fish> Blinker: you can't just navigate to /home, untill you mount that partition manually
[09:17] <wubrgamer> but it works fine once i log in
[09:17] <frying_fish> mount it, to somewhere like /mnt/harddisk
[09:17] <nuaimat> Blissex: what to do with /etc/hosts
[09:17] <Dodzey> BobSongs:you might aswell back up your home folder and your synaptic packages and reinstall, it'd save less pain in the long run
[09:17] <BobSongs> Dodzey: True... I've got low blood pressure. But a kernel recompile could cause heart damage. ;-)
[09:17] <manmadha> frying_fish, but u can not burn the cd 's in multisession
[09:17] <frying_fish> and then look around in it
[09:17] <wubrgamer> yeah, so what do i neede to to to change the refresh rates for gdm ?
[09:17] <frying_fish> manmadha: no? oh well,
[09:17] <ucordes> frying_fish: when i click scan it crashes. any different method?
[09:17] <wubrgamer> what does gdm look at ?
[09:17] <nuaimat> Blissex: cat /etc/hosts    : <IP_ADDRESS> localhost ubuntu-desktop
[09:17] <manmadha> frying_fish, it is easy to use k3b......
[09:17] <Blissex> nuaimat: edit it to add your PC's name to it with a suitable address. That's usually the problem.
[09:18] <nuaimat> <IP_ADDRESS> ubuntu-desktop
[09:18] <nuaimat> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[09:18] <nuaimat> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[09:18] <nuaimat> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[09:18] <nuaimat> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[09:18] <nuaimat> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[09:18] <nuaimat> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[09:18] <nuaimat> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[09:18] <frying_fish> ucordes: make sure you have selected the correct input
[09:18] <Blinker> frying_fish: got a command so go with that?
[09:18] <yoni> Hi, where from can I get: fuse-utils"?
[09:18] <Dodzey> BobSongs:what were you wanting to use ardour to record anyway? you play an instrument?
[09:18] <Blissex> nuaimat: is your PC called 'ubuntu-desktop'?
[09:18] <econthrust> which is the best text based irc client? does centericq do all the tricks, that bitchx can?
[09:18] <frying_fish> Blinker: sudo mount /dev/foo /mnt/harddrive
[09:18] <ucordes> frying_fish: i guess it is selected. says "quick cam web" in the title
[09:18] <frying_fish> (after making the directory first)
[09:18] <Dodzey> BobSongs: by the name, im guessing you play some instrument
[09:18] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Many thanks. I believe you're correct. Gentlemen: you've been a real please to chat with. Samus_Aran, RunUO786, et al. I shall return with a new setup.
[09:18] <Blinker> frying_fish: k, thanks
[09:18] <nuaimat> oooh damn it , i am losted
[09:19] <RunUO763> BobSongs np
[09:19] <BobSongs> ...a real pleasure to chat ...
[09:19] <frying_fish> ucordes: interesting
[09:19] <nuaimat> i am a newbie to linux,. i dont know what to put in /etc/hosts !!
[09:19] <frying_fish> well, run xsane from a terminal, and see the error message
[09:19] <Dodzey> BobSongs np, re-install is painless, when compared to windows, so we'll see you fairly soon im guessing
[09:19] <econthrust> which is the best text based irc client? does centericq do all the tricks, that bitchx can?
[09:19] <Samus_Aran> dr_willis: MPlayer has full support for 5.1 surround sound.  on the downside, if you only have a stereo soundcard/speakers, it will only play LF and RF channels, dropping the rest
[09:19] <odla> is there something wrong with the mirrors right now?
[09:19] <BobSongs> /etc/hosts usually states your local IP which is <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:19] <Blissex> nuaimat: open a command line screen console and type 'dnsdomainname'
[09:20] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Let me get the particulars
[09:20] <Samus_Aran> dr_willis: unless you use the MPlayer option: -channels 6 -af hrtf=m
[09:20] <Samus_Aran> dr_willis: or similar, which downmixes all channels into two
[09:20] <Blissex> nuaimat: that will tell you what name your PC is configured for. if it is 'ubuntu-desktop' then it is another problem.
[09:20] <nuaimat> Blissex: ok , i 've done that , nothing happens
[09:20] <Samus_Aran> dr_willis: I use that whenever playing a DVD or surround sound XviD, it makes a huge difference in sound quality
[09:20] <sire1> is there ara a way to install some packages using cd-rom repository?
[09:20] <Dodzey> BobSongs was an IRC newbee, now he's helping people, didn't take you long ;-)
[09:20] <manmadha> how to load i tunes in ipod?
[09:20] <BobSongs> nuaimat: I have two lines.
[09:20] <nuaimat> Blissex: no , theres no output
[09:20] <Blissex> nuaimat: and 'hostname'?
[09:20] <frying_fish> sire1: yes, apt-cdrom
[09:20] <BobSongs> nuaimat: the first is: <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu
[09:21] <nuaimat> BobSongs: what ?
[09:21] <frying_fish> manmadha: there is no itunes in linux....
[09:21] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: if you want a word of advice about reinstalling GNU/Linux distibutions ...
[09:21] <Dodzey> sirel:or open up synaptic with your ubuntu cd in, if your scared of the command line
[09:21] <nuaimat> Blissex: how to add a hostname ?
[09:21] <Blissex> nuaimat: as in: ''type "hostname"' and what is the output?
[09:21] <manmadha> frying_fish, oh ok
[09:21] <RunUO763> nuaimat just edit teh fle
[09:21] <RunUO763> file*
[09:21] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: don't.  you won't learn how the system works if you are stuck in the "run into a problem, reinstall".   it is a Windows concept and has no role in the UNIX world
[09:21] <manmadha> frying_fish, then how to load them in ipod?
[09:21] <frying_fish> use some other program, like amarok (for kde people) or some gnome one that deals with it in gnome
[09:22] <sire1> frying_fish: but I mean that if I havn't internet connection and want to install xmms and other tings to play music and video?
[09:22] <BobSongs> nuaimat: the second is: <IP_ADDRESS> <personalhomepage.com> ubuntu
[09:22] <frying_fish> manmadha: I don't have an ipod, I have a zen.
[09:22] <econthrust> which is the best text based irc client? does centericq do all the tricks, that bitchx can?
[09:22] <Blissex> econthrust: many people like IRSSI
[09:22] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: I feel you are quite right. I hate doing it because it's so ... WINDOWS!!
[09:22] <sire1> can I do it with an additional cd?
[09:22] <frying_fish> sire1: have them on a cdrom, say if they are already on the install cd, then type apt-cdrom foo
[09:22] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: I spent many months doing that.  I learned very little until I stopped and worked out the various little problems ... and they *can* be worked out (unlike a lot of the weird and inexplicable Windows problems)
[09:22] <nuaimat> Blissex: type "hostname"
[09:22] <nuaimat> hostname is /bin/hostname
[09:22] <Dodzey> BobSongs:well stay, we'll try and figure it out
[09:22] <starm_> Hello all, if I connect to a server using ssh. start an application. lose my conection, reconnect, is there a way to get the output of the application again? That is to reconnect to its stdout?
[09:22] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I'm still here.
[09:23] <Blissex> nuaimat: as in *you* type "hostname"
[09:23] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: You're quite right. It's a despicable solution.
[09:23] <Dodzey> the first page of the gospel of windows is "if all else fails - format c:" :-D
[09:23] <nuaimat> BobSongs: what i can do with these two lines
[09:23] <frying_fish> starm_: use screen
[09:23] <Dodzey> in linux its "try, try and try again
[09:23] <Blissex> nuaimat: the command to type is "hostname" what's the result?
[09:23] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: Windows NT 5+ is finally starting to offer some logging facilities, to help track why things don't work or crash.  Windows 9x is quite a joke for application problem solving.  all unices have no troubles in determining the source of a problem (if you know what you're doing)
[09:23] <nuaimat> Blissex: the output of 'hostname' is "ubuntu-desktop"
[09:24] <Blissex> Dodzey: actually it is ''read, read, read more''.
[09:24] <frying_fish> login via ssh, run "screen" then run your program, disconnect from the screen with ctrl+a ctrl+d
[09:24] <frying_fish> and then type screen -r to reconnect
[09:24] <starm_> ok doing man screen
[09:24] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Ensure these two are the first two lines in your /etc/hosts file.
[09:24] <nuaimat> Blissex: the result is "ubuntu-desktop" thats my hostname
[09:24] <sire1> but I think that in ubuntu install cd packages like xmms ar not provided, so is there are a cd's with extra packages like xmms, that I can download and use instead of apt repository?
[09:24] <Samus_Aran> Holy unbans, Batman.
[09:24] <frying_fish> sire1 possibly, go look on google
[09:24] <ompaul> !away > Derevko
[09:24] <sire1> :)
[09:24] <sire1> im looking.. :)
[09:24] <frying_fish> you could get the "dvd" that has all the packages ubuntu provides
[09:24] <ompaul> Samus_Aran, hehe
[09:25] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: you saw that too, huh, Robin?
[09:25] <frying_fish> but why not just download individual packages
[09:25] <nuaimat> BobSongs: i will try it , thank you
[09:25] <Blissex> nuaimat: well, that's bad news, because "ubuntu-desktop" is already in '/etc/hosts', and that was the most likely cause of calling out.
[09:25] <Tomze> screen -xR - screen d = attach it from more than one machine... support terminal :)
[09:25] <nuaimat> Blissex: what do u suggest dude ?
[09:25] <BobSongs> nuaimat: There's a bit more in my /etc/hosts file.
[09:25] <piclez41> hi, I'm trying to install "apt-get install phpmyadim" but it can't find the package, do I need to add new sources to my list?
[09:25] <sire1> becouse individual packages has lots of dependencies to other packages..
[09:25] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Don't bail yet.
[09:25] <frying_fish> Tomze: nice, never knew that much about screen
[09:25] <Samus_Aran> Tomze: "screen -x" attaches a screen here without detatching it anywhere else
[09:25] <Dodzey> sirel:are you wanting to install ubuntu on a comp not connected to the net?
[09:25] <Samus_Aran> Tomze: I always have my screens open wherever I am, and wherever else I might be =p
[09:25] <A[D] minS> !sources.list
[09:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:26] <Blissex> nuaimat: the second most likely cause is that you used somewhere _another_ host name. The third is that some other server, like the time server, is connecting to another server.
[09:26] <odla> http://pastebin.ca/115690   <- is there something wrong with that sources.list?
[09:26] <Dodzey> sirel:is that why you need the packages?
[09:26] <odla> i keep getting an error
[09:26] <Tomze> Samus_Aran: yes.. but then i can log in to machine a from b and c... and have them all display the same on the screen
[09:26] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Will you be hosting a web page?
[09:26] <crimsun> odla: yes. http://ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  is invalid.
[09:26] <odla> crimsun: what should it be?
[09:26] <crimsun> odla: you /must/ use a CC.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:27] <sire1> Dodzey: yes I need a cd that contains all needed packages to install things like xmms mplayer and etc..
[09:27] <nuaimat> BobSongs: nope
[09:27] <frying_fish> anybody good with lirc?
[09:27] <nuaimat> Blissex: how do i get sure of that ?
[09:27] <odla> ok thanks
[09:27] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Then you probably don't have to add that second line I posted. Is you /etc/hosts file blank?
[09:27] <Astinus-> Hulloh, Is ifconfig obsolete/deprecated/replaced by something else?
[09:27] <Blissex> nuaimat: that is actually quite complex.
[09:27] <Dodzey> sirel:this might seem like a daft solution but you could use an ubuntu installation that has itnernet access to download all pakcages, then write them to dvd
[09:28] <nuaimat> BobSongs: no,  i am connected to the net now , does that mean my /etc/hosts will be different than offline mode ?
[09:28] <Blissex> nuaimat: ideally the dial program you use will put in something like '/var/log/messages' a line saying which address triggered the dial-out. From that it is possible to figure out why it is being called.
[09:29] <nuaimat> BobSongs: the output of my /etc/hosts is <IP_ADDRESS> localhost ubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <nuaimat> <IP_ADDRESS> ubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <nuaimat> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[09:29] <nuaimat> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[09:29] <nuaimat> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[09:29] <nuaimat> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[09:29] <nuaimat> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[09:29] <nuaimat> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[09:29] <nuaimat> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[09:29] <Samus_Aran> Tomze: what do you mean ?
[09:29] <Renan_s2> !tor
[09:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about tor - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:29] <gr33npho3nix> is there a way to mount an ntfs drive as user readable via gui somewhere?(assuming you have sudo rightS)
[09:30] <Tauhshi> Has anyne used Isntlux?
[09:30] <Dodzey> nuaimat:you should have <IP_ADDRESS> localhost **YOUR COMPUTERS NAME**
[09:30] <anirban> Hi
[09:30] <anirban> how to start apache2 in ubuntu
[09:30] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: many channels have bots to help do channel maintenance (like that flood-kick), but even more do not.  you have to be fairly coordinated to run a bot =p
[09:30] <anirban> I did apt-get install apache2
[09:30] <anirban> install it
[09:30] <Dodzey> nuaimat:then <IP_ADDRESS> **YOUR COMPUTERS NAME**
[09:30] <Tomze> Samus_Aran: if i log in to machine a and type screen -xR then i can ssh from b and c to a and type screen -xR... and then have all three machines display the same picture on the screen.. real time
[09:30] <nalioth> Dodzey: nuaimat is no longer here
[09:30] <anirban> now will /etc/init.d/apache2 start will start it up
[09:31] <micahcowan> anirban: System -> Admin -> Services should have it
[09:31] <Dodzey> nalioth:oopsie, i should of been paying attention
[09:31] <cdmwebs> yes
[09:31] <Samus_Aran> Tomze: that is the same as screen -x, without the -R, is it not ?  I  only ever use screen -x, it never detaches old sessions, so they all show the same thing
[09:31] <Samus_Aran> Tomze: e.g. I have the same screen session here in a gnome-terminal and on TTY2
[09:31] <RamiKassab> hey guys quick question, one of my servers had an error_log file that was HUGE so I deleted it because it took up all of the space on the partition and wasn't allowing any new emails to come in. When I run 'df' now, it still says that partition is 100% used up even though it's not, is there something I need to do to refresh that data?
[09:32] <dreamthief> 127.0.01 @ Dodzey + anirban
[09:32] <dreamthief> <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:32] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: is it Ext or ReiserFS ?
[09:32] <uniq> RamiKassab: try 'sync'
[09:32] <Tomze> Samus_Aran: well.. it seems like we are both happy ;) i will try to leave out the r some day
[09:32] <bit_doidao> hello there? any dns guru over there? i need force a win station to resolute a host into a local ip
[09:33] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, it's eXT
[09:33] <RamiKassab> ext
[09:33] <RamiKassab> uniq, ok sync will update it all?
[09:33] <anirban> I am remotely admining the ubuntu box using ssh
[09:33] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: Hmm. Bots are a long ways down the road for me. I can't even program my microwave oven!
[09:33] <uniq> RamiKassab: maybe? it's worth a try.
[09:33] <cdmwebs> anirban /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[09:33] <dreamthief> bit_doidao, try the hosts-file ^^
[09:33] <nuaimat> BobSongs: sorry , i was kicked
[09:34] <BobSongs> nuaimat: No problem. You've got dial up?
[09:34] <nalioth> !tell nuaimat about pastebin
[09:34] <nuaimat> BobSongs: yeah
[09:34] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: Ext reserves a percentage of space for root user.  afaik this space will not be reported as available (though I could be wrong).  if you're sure there is in fact 0 bytes free (try creating a 5KB a text file as root user), then remount read-only and fsck the drive to have it recheck free space
[09:34] <BobSongs> nuaimat: You have my sympathy.
[09:34] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: heh
[09:34] <micahcowan> anirban: oh, sorry. In that case, yes, /etc/init.d/apache2 (or perhaps httpd?) should do it.
[09:34] <bit_doidao> dreamthief, im running a gateway server, and my boss run windows, so i need to force email.company.com.br to resolute on the internal ip, so the boss can use the internal ip when on the company network
[09:34] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: there are microwave ovens that can run Linux kernels and simple software !  =p
[09:35] <nuaimat> BobSongs: i think there's something about controlling startup scripts , isnt it ?
[09:35] <zetor> hello all again!
[09:35] <dreamthief> hmm...
[09:36] <BobSongs> If you mess with your /etc/hosts file just right... sudo won't work!
[09:36] <anirban> Micahcowan
[09:36] <anirban> yeah I did that
[09:36] <dreamthief> internal  dns-server in the company?
[09:36] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, there's no way of doing this without taking the server down?
[09:36] <uniq> bit_doidao: setup a local nameserver with a copy of the company.com.br zone, change the needed instances to the local ips.
[09:36] <anirban> but also found out that I have to edit /etc/default/apache
[09:37] <dreamthief> uniq, thats exactly what i ment
[09:37] <dreamthief> ;)
[09:37] <uniq> bit_doidao: you can also setup iptables rules to redirect all connections to email.company.com.br to the internal IP.
[09:38] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: have you confirmed that there are zero bytes free ?  it might just be the reserved-for-root amount that isn't showing up.  how large is the drive and how large was the log file you deleted ?
[09:38] <BobSongs> nuaimat: So on that level you've got to be somewhat careful. If you're going to edit your /etc/hosts file, I recommend doing it in an editor like 'gedit' and keeping the copy running with the file open. And of course it must be opened in the terminal as 'sudo gedit'.
[09:38] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: I think it uses 10% by default, but it is years since I used Ext
[09:38] <nalioth> !tell BobSongs about gksudo
[09:38] <nalioth> nuaimat: open gedit as superuser using "gksudo gedit"
[09:38] <MrFatJack>  I want to install the latest hplip (1.6.7). The one that the Synaptic manager shows is .9.7-4. How do gain access to the latest package?
[09:39] <bit_doidao> uniq, i tryied the bind method, but without sucess. ill try the iptables one, let make in a brute way :) thank you for the "light"
[09:39] <nuaimat> !tell nuaimat about gksudo
[09:39] <move_> does ^z actually kill a program that's running in CLI?
[09:39] <BobSongs> nalioth: Is there an issue with sudo?
[09:39] <nalioth> move_: depends on how it's written
[09:39] <Renan_s2> move_, no, it "backgrounds" the program
[09:39] <DarkAudit> I'm having trouble getting the System->Preferences->Font Application Font settings to take. root session it works fine. User session the change is ignored
[09:39] <|thunder> whats the diff between gksudo and sudo ?
[09:39] <Renan_s2> and you can resume it typing 'fg'
[09:39] <nalioth> BobSongs: did you read your PM from ubotu? using sudo to open user space gui apps can corrupt user permissions
[09:40] <move_> what should I use to close programs?
[09:40] <Dodzey> |thunder:gksudo is for graphical apps if im not mistaken
[09:40] <Bob535> Hello everyone
[09:40] <ucordes> how can i send my XChat to the gnome system tray??
[09:40] <dr_willis> it pays to read a few bash tutorials :P
[09:40] <nalioth> !gksudo
[09:40] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[09:40] <|thunder> ahh, thanks D
[09:40] <Dodzey> BobSongs:any look with the audio capture?
[09:40] <dr_willis> ucordes,  Hmm.. not really noticed that feature.
[09:40] <avoine> i try to make a minimal ubuntu cd so i remove all big packages like apache,xorg but now i have a error saying that no kernel is found
[09:40] <nuaimat> BobSongs: my /etc/hosts is now open by gedit
[09:40] <Renan_s2> move_, ^C or 'killall name_of_program'
[09:40] <move_> ucordes_: if there isn't an option in the options to do it, download alltray
[09:40] <Samus_Aran> move_: generally, no.  it will "kill -STOP" it, which normally tells it to pause in background and wait for a "kill -CONT"
[09:40] <ucordes> dr_willis no plug-ins or anything?
[09:40] <dr_willis> ucordes seen it under windows with some xchat-systray program/add on.
[09:41] <Bob535> quick question, what is the root password by default for ubuntu? it doesnt seem to be the password I asked to set up my user account and I dont remember entering any other password
[09:41] <avoine>  but i dont think i touch any kernel package so do you know what i can verify?
[09:41] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, when I run df, it shows there are some bytes free but it says the partition is 100% full
[09:41] <MrFatJack> no root by default
[09:41] <whiter> how can i install nvidia drivers on ubuntu dapper
[09:41] <Samus_Aran> move_: if you use "fg" it will CONTinue the program, if you use "bg" it will send it to background
[09:41] <move_> thanks.
[09:41] <Bob535> thanks fatjack
[09:41] <nalioth> BobSongs: there is no root password.  Ubuntu by default doesn't use the root account.  It uses 'sudo' with your user password
[09:41] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, so I'm guessing the free space is the space reserved for root
[09:41] <BobSongs> Dodzey: No captain. The warp drive is in reverse and transporter's turning everybody into white, fluffy bunnies!
[09:41] <Samus_Aran> move_: same as if you had run the program like: command &
[09:41] <ucordes> move_: ok i will check this out
[09:41] <dr_willis> Bob535,  it should be that initial users password to use with 'sudo'
[09:41] <Samus_Aran> move_: once it is in background, you can check on it with: jobs
[09:41] <ucordes> dr_willis: interesting but i don't use windows
[09:41] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, but no one can receive email on the server now because the email program can't write to the drive since it doesn't run as root
[09:41] <|thunder> or try, jobs to get a list of jobs running, then kill %#, #being the number ofo thhe job that it lists
[09:41] <move_> how do you bring it to the foreground?
[09:42] <|thunder> fg %#
[09:42] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, the log file I deleted was huge but I don't remember how big it wa
[09:42] <Samus_Aran> move_: "fg" = "forground"
[09:42] <BobSongs> nalioth: gksudo also uses the same password.d
[09:42] <Dodzey> BobSongs:being able to hear it, yet capture not working is odd
[09:42] <move_> okay
[09:42] <move_> thanks
[09:42] <azureal> hi, i'd like to set a picture to be fullscreen wallpaper, but "fbsetbg -f" brings up a little message that says it can't find an appropriate prog to set wallpaper
[09:42] <nuaimat> BobSongs: what to do with /etc/hosts ??
[09:42] <BobSongs> Dodzey: It's a poser.
[09:42] <KreativeLight> How do I create different identities in Evolution?
[09:42] <Bob535> It doesn't seem to work
[09:42] <Bob535> let me try some things
[09:42] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, logged in as root, I was able to touch a file
[09:42] <Samus_Aran> move_: it will be listed like "[1]  foobar" in "jobs".  you can use "%1" to reference that job, as in: kill -9 %1
[09:42] <azureal> (and it also advises me to install eterm, but is there another way?)
[09:42] <BobSongs> nuaimat: What is your reason for editing this file again?
[09:43] <dr_willis> azureal,  hmm what does eterm have to do with setting the wallpaper. :P
[09:43] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, btw, the drive is about 50 gb
[09:43] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Sorry for forgetting.
[09:43] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: but were you able to create a 5KB file ?  the problem with touch is that it won't use any disk space (so long as there are free inodes)
[09:43] <dr_willis> azureal,  dont want to use the  desktop-background perferance tool eh?
[09:43] <azureal> dr_willis: it has the command esetroot
[09:43] <nuaimat> BobSongs: :) nevermind dude , but what to do now ?
[09:43] <finalbeta> I've installed totem-gstreamer and codecs for divx etc etc. now I want to use totem-xine , but once installed that doesn't use the codecs.
[09:43] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, ok let me try created a larger file, would copying another file be sufficient?
[09:43] <Bob535> Blank and my user password do not work to access root, any other ideas? I just installed this fresh like 5 minutes ago
[09:43] <BobSongs> nalioth: If gksudo is better, then I'll use it from now on.
[09:43] <move_> Samus_Aran: what is the -9 for?
[09:43] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: yes
[09:43] <dr_willis> azureal,  thers a dozen programs out that can set the background. :P  some even let ya have them change randomly
[09:44] <azureal> dr_willis: it's kinda buggy
[09:44] <Dodzey> Bob535:there is no Root account by default
[09:44] <dr_willis> azureal,  oh? never noticed.
[09:44] <|thunder> it the extra kill , i dont use a -9
[09:44] <nalioth> BobSongs: also kdesu uses the same password.  kdesu and gksudo are only necessary for when you open gui apps as superuser
[09:44] <nu> hellooo
[09:44] <azureal> dr_willis: haha..at least my gnome one is buggy (for flux)
[09:44] <Bob535> Dodzey, how do I set one up?
[09:44] <nu> !nvidia
[09:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:44] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, copying a file worked fine
[09:44] <Dodzey> Bob535:why do you want tp?
[09:44] <dr_willis> azureal,  well fluxbox and blackbox and those others - may not play nicely with gnome. :)
[09:44] <Samus_Aran> move_: kill sends a "signal" to a process.  each signal has a name and a number.  if you go "kill 300" it uses the default signal of "15" or "TERM"
[09:44] <Bob535> tp?
[09:44] <azureal> dr_willis: oh, yea, i managed to freeze it once
[09:45] <Samus_Aran> move_: signal 15 just politely tells that app to finish up and close
[09:45] <azureal> dr_willis: by attempting to switch themes to metacity... lol
[09:45] <Dodzey> Bob535:anything you want to perform with root privelages can be done using sudo <command> or gksudo <command?
[09:45] <Samus_Aran> move_: the signal "9" is "KILL" and it generally will never be ignored.  it tells it to die now, do not save any files, just quit
[09:45] <Bob535> okay, thanks dodzey
[09:45] <move_> i see
[09:45] <Dodzey> Bob535: oops, sorry, i meant "to" not "tp" heh
[09:45] <Samus_Aran> move_: so normally you want to "kill -TERM" before "kill -KILL", to give the app opportunity to shut down properly
[09:45] <KreativeLight> Is it possible to create different identities in Evolution?
[09:45] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, basically, the space exists now, I just need linux to know it does so that emails may be received and sent again
[09:46] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Well. If you kept 'ubuntu' as the default setting and your user name shows up in a command prompt as 'nuaimat@ubuntu' then that first line should be fine, which is...
[09:46] <Dodzey> nuaimat: yup, that part of the config is just your computers name
[09:46] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: most likely the disk does have 10% reserved for root usage.  how many GB of that 50GB drive do you presume are actually filled up ?
[09:46] <move_> okay
[09:46] <move_> thanks
[09:46] <BobSongs> nuaimat: '<IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu'
[09:46] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: try using "du" on "/" to get the totals of the whole drive
[09:47] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, after removing that log file, prob only half if even
[09:47] <nuaimat> BobSongs: no , mu username is 'moh'   moh@ubuntu at the command line
[09:47] <pkilgore> Is there a way to allow a dynamic library to only link against a certain user, who might happened to be a daemon?
[09:47] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, the partition is used only for emails and web servers (php, html, etc)
[09:47] <azureal> dr_willis: also, isnt eterm more like a gentoo thing?
[09:47] <pkilgore> azureal, actually I'm using Eterm right now
[09:47] <dr_willis> azureal,  no. its just a xterm replacement.. its Enluightenments Terminal
[09:47] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: du -csh /
[09:47] <Dodzey> nuaimat:same principal applies, just so long as you put the computer name in correctly
[09:47] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: see how much of the drive is actually used up
[09:47] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Sorry, dude. Okay. The line in /etc/hosts should read: <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu
[09:47] <crimsun> no, eterm is a terminal emulator. It runs on virtually any posix-compliant system.
[09:47] <pkilgore> (then agian, I use Gentoo at home)
[09:48] <azureal> pkilgore: and fluxbox?
[09:48] <dr_willis> azureal,  it just has some tools to set the desktop wallpaper. that etrem is aware of. so it can do fake-transparency better
[09:48] <pkilgore> azureal, how did you know?
[09:48] <dr_willis> You can run eterm all ya want.
[09:48] <Intangir> where do i put up bug reports? i saw some little app that guided you thru filling out a bug report before, but now i dont remember where it was
[09:48] <azureal> pkilgore: and you use esetroot to change background?
[09:48] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: keep in mind that e-mail servers such as Postfix require a certain amount of free space before it will receive, it won't download even if there is hard drive space, if it is below a certain amount
[09:48] <Dodzey> i'm pulling my hair out over ACPI here, its the only thing in ubuntu that ive never been able to get working correctly, anyone offering to help?
[09:48] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, there is ~26 gb used now
[09:48] <micahcowan> anirban, I'm surprised that you'd have to run /etc/init.d/apache2 to begin with; when I installed it, it came up listening right away.
[09:48] <finalbeta> I've installed totem-gstreamer and codecs for divx etc etc. now I want to use totem-xine , but once installed that doesn't use the codecs. How do I make totem-xine use the codecs?
[09:49] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, so there should be plenty left for postfix now
[09:49] <nuaimat> BobSongs: ok , i have changed the 1st line , what else should i do ?
[09:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, don't forget about gkrellm; But actually, I don't use setroot commands ever since fluxbox changed to where you can't call them from themes
[09:49] <Robert> Good evening everybody
[09:49] <bartist> hello,
[09:49] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Save the file. That's about all you need.
[09:49] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, is it really that difficult for the server to recognize the right amount of freespace?
[09:49] <crimsun> finalbeta: GSt and xine are different backends. You probably want to install libxine-extracodecs if you don't have it installed.
[09:49] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: ok, i already have gkrellm....
[09:49] <Dodzey> BobSongs:when you shut down your comp does it actually power down your computer
[09:49] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Is this file causing difficulties?
[09:50] <Dodzey> BobSongs:myne halts (i hear the fans disengage) but it doesnt actually power down
[09:50] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: okay, so it does look like the problem is that the Ext has gotten confused about its free space.  only way around that which I am aware of is to remount the partition read-only and then fsck it to update the free space count.  perhaps google for: ext OR ext2 OR ext3 free space count
[09:50] <Dodzey> and its annoying me
[09:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, it's a nice little app it is.
[09:50] <Robert> Anybody here who knows how to get a DWL-G122 (Rev. C.) to work?
[09:50] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Not entirely. I believe mine does the same.
[09:50] <azureal> so what's your pt
[09:50] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: there might be another way short of remounting it read-only (which won't be possible if it is being used)
[09:50] <bartist> i see movies in black and white
[09:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> pt?
[09:50] <BobSongs> Dodzey: You suggestin' I yank the ol' plug out?
[09:50] <nuaimat> BobSongs: thank you very much dude , i hope it will work, about the difficulties , i don't know , i just want to stop the pppd to start upon ubuntu startup
[09:50] <sethk> Samus_Aran, you are correct about fsck to fix it, but it should NOT be mounted.  Not mounted read only, not mounted AT ALL
[09:50] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: why did you bring it up if it won't help me change bg
[09:50] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, rebooting would probably fix it all right?
[09:50] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Ahh. So that's what you're after.
[09:50] <Dodzey> BobSongs: haha, no!, its just that i can't for the life of me get it to power down correctly
[09:50] <Samus_Aran> sethk: why is that ?
[09:51] <bartist> and i have all the Gstreamer
[09:51] <bartist> and xine codecs
[09:51] <Flowking> Samus_Aran: mount --bind /some/directory/to/share /var/ftp/make_this_directory_first
[09:51] <sethk> Samus_Aran, absolutely no way of fixing it while it is live.
[09:51] <finalbeta> crimsun, that package is installed
[09:51] <Samus_Aran> sethk: I always read that fscking a read-only drive was fine
[09:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, you can still use setroot programs to set the root, just not from the themes.
[09:51] <bartist> do you have any idea of what is happening?
[09:51] <sethk> Samus_Aran, no
[09:51] <move_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19717
[09:51] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Should be a big ol' switch at the back of the powersupply. Causes the whole thang to die right proper like.
[09:51] <move_> can someone tell me what's wrong with fglrx from that pastebin?
[09:51] <sethk> Samus_Aran, try it and read the warnings it shouts at you
[09:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> It has to go into .fluxbox/startup
[09:51] <odla> how do i make f-spot start automatically when i connect a digital camera?  i know that it's under removable drives, i just don't know the correct syntax
[09:51] <Flowking> Samus_Aran: "mount --bind src dst" that is
[09:51] <move_> I just can't figure it out
[09:51] <nuaimat> BobSongs: do i have to do anything else or just changing /etc/hosts is enough ?
[09:51] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: is that drive set to be fsck'ed on bootup ?
[09:52] <Dodzey> BobSongs: ive gotten in the habit of just holding the pwoer button in, but it'd be nice if it dorted itself out and did it itself
[09:52] <Samus_Aran> move_: I have never used fglrx, sorry.
[09:52] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: so you're saying if I have that in startup (which I changed today) it will  place the bg before the theme loads?
[09:52] <Dodzey> sorted**
[09:52] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, good question :) I'm not the actual admin of the server, one of my company tech guys is but he's out of the office right now
[09:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, yep. Just put it before exec /usr/bin/fluxbox
[09:52] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Just a second. I recall a post about this. I'll return momentarily.
[09:52] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I hear you.
[09:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> And be sure to append an ampersand to the end.
[09:52] <azureal> I was wondering about that... whether or not it would go off
[09:52] <Renan_s2> !mono
[09:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about mono - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:52] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: is the mail drive the same partition as / ?
[09:52] <Renan_s2> !.net
[09:52] <nuaimat> BobSongs: ok
[09:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about .net - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:52] <Renan_s2> !wine
[09:52] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:52] <BobSongs> nuaimat: What is the command you use to connect to the net again?
[09:52] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: it's going to be a running process!
[09:53] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, no, mail and web files run on /home
[09:53] <azureal> i mean, ?
[09:53] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: do you have physical access to the server ?  you can go to runlevel 1, which is single-user mode, for running the fsck command
[09:53] <Flowking> TomoKimo!!! .. your kungfu no good ;)
[09:53] <DarkAudit> Would KDE settings take over my GNOME font preferences and keep application font settings from taking hold?
[09:53] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, / is it's own partition
[09:53] <sethk> move_, nothing in that paste is abnormal
[09:53] <Samus_Aran> single-user mode will detach SSH sessions, though
[09:53] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, it'll terminate as soon as the job is done.
[09:53] <sorush20> hi gus I'm compiling amarok and here is the make error that I get. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19718
[09:53] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, no I am not physically able to get to the server
[09:53] <sorush20> could anyone here give me a hand plase?
[09:53] <nuaimat> BobSongs: i connect though the network-admin , gui tool for ubuntu
[09:53] <crimsun> sorush20: did you ``apt-get build-dep amarok'' first?
[09:53] <RamiKassab> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[09:53] <RamiKassab> /dev/sda2              7052496   1147696   5546552  18% /
[09:53] <RamiKassab> /dev/sda1               101089     78510     17360  82% /boot
[09:53] <RamiKassab> /dev/sda8             49051576  46559908         0 100% /home
[09:53] <RamiKassab> none                    512652         0    512652   0% /dev/shm
[09:54] <RamiKassab> /dev/sda6              1004024     16660    936360   2% /tmp
[09:54] <RamiKassab> /dev/sda5              5036284   1293308   3487144  28% /usr
[09:54] <DarkAudit> ouch
[09:54] <RamiKassab> /dev/sda3              6048352    469552   5271560   9% /var
[09:54] <sorush20> no I've downloaded the souce from sourceforge..
[09:54] <nuaimat> BobSongs: but the connection is "automatically" dialed upon windows startup
[09:54] <azureal> PASTEBIN
[09:54] <crimsun> sorush20: then do so.
[09:54] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: no pasting in here, please
[09:54] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, well technically you don't have to put an ampersand after it.
[09:54] <nuaimat> upon ubuntu* :D sorry
[09:54] <sorush20> why crimsun
[09:54] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, sorry about that,
[09:54] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: check in /etc/fstab to make sure it is set to check it on bootup, and then try rebooting
[09:54] <BobSongs> nuaimat: ...and you'd like the same for Ubuntu?
[09:54] <crimsun> sorush20: because it installs the build dependencies.
[09:54] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: ah, the example did not have one either
[09:54] <micahcowan> How do you disable a service for starting up? Admin -> Services only seems to affect currently running services, but doesn't set NOSTART.
[09:54] <geekdom> I am a bit confiused.  I want twm to run on 606 server and I edited the sources file and apt-get installed twm.   With the code installed, how to I get the graphics to come up.  Startx is not there and twm gives me errors.  I thought ubuntu would take care of the depenancies.
[09:54] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: use http://pastebin.com/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or invite someone to #Flood
[09:55] <Bob535> Grrr, this thing still is not working
[09:55] <Bob535> It wont let me do things because im not root
[09:55] <nuaimat> BobSongs: no , i don't want ubuntu to automatically dial that connection , i want it to be dialed as i need it , not automatically
[09:55] <Bob535> but there is no root to be
[09:55] <Bob535> must make root
[09:55] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: great! i'll give it a go
[09:55] <Renan_s2> !vmware
[09:55] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[09:55] <Dodzey> Bob535:what are you trying to do?
[09:55] <Tomosaurus> Bob535
[09:55] <Bob535> edit xorg.conf
[09:55] <Tomosaurus> have you tried 'sudo'?
[09:55] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: the last number in the line in /etc/fstab determines whether or not it will be fsck'ed on bootup
[09:55] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, fsck isn't anywhere in fstab
[09:55] <Bob535> its read only for users
[09:55] <BobSongs> nuaimat: And is it automatically dialing in now each time?
[09:55] <Dodzey> Bob535:'gksudo gedit /etx/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:56] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, oh ok, in that case, it's set to 2
[09:56] <sethk> Bob535, you can use sudo to run with root processes.  You can set the root password, then become root, but that's more dangerous
[09:56] <Dodzey> oops
[09:56] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: if it is a 0, that means it will not check it.  if it is a 1, it means it will check it first (before other drives), if it is 2 or higher it will check it after the other drives
[09:56] <Flowking> Hmm, im gonna get 2 new computers and one of them will have ubuntu... Nice work devel!!
[09:56] <Dodzey> etc**
[09:56] <Flowking> *=
[09:56] <Bob535> Thanks dodzey
[09:56] <Dodzey> Bob535:'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:56] <Dodzey> np
[09:56] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: okay, that is how it should be (it will check it after the partitions marked as "1")
[09:56] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, so it will check it so a reboot should work, I just hope that all the services will start up correctly
[09:56] <micahcowan> Are you meant to edit the files in /etc/default by hand, or is there a GUI interface?
[09:56] <nu> hey guys
[09:56] <Dodzey> that should work, if it doesnt you have got a problem with user groups and sudo
[09:56] <nu> something's wrong with my font
[09:56] <Flowking> micahcowan: what do they control ?
[09:56] <nu> its like this for every distro i've tried though
[09:56] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: hopefully, yes
[09:56] <nu> i don't know how to fix it
[09:56] <micahcowan> whether a given service starts up at boot time
[09:57] <Flowking> ok
[09:57] <AngryElf> i wrote a script, and stuck it in crontab -- where does it spit errors to?
[09:57] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, ok rebooting now
[09:57] <Niall> what is the link for installing integrated ati radeon xpress 200 drivers
[09:57] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: wait
[09:57] <dr_willis> AngryElf,  it can email them to ya if you set it right.
[09:57] <nuaimat> BobSongs: yeah , but i didnt try what happened after changing the /etc/hosts
[09:57] <micahcowan> I'm used to the more typical rc.d system
[09:57] <nu> Niall: type !ati
[09:57] <nu> !ati
[09:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:57] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, ok...
[09:57] <AngryElf> dr_willis, is that a crontab config, or part of the script?
[09:57] <timhaughton> Any Lenovo laptop users got their sound working in Dapper?
[09:58] <BobSongs> nuaimat: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199567
[09:58] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: if you are SSH'ed in as root, you could stop all the services other than SSH (using /etc/init.d/service-name stop), and so long as no processes are left using /home, you can umount it and then fsck it without a reboot
[09:58] <nu> Does everyone's font look a little funky in firefox?
[09:58] <dr_willis> AngryElf,  i forget.. i  think it can be a crontab entry. time to  check some crontab examples/docs. :P
[09:58] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: would be faster/safer, in case SSH doesn't start back up
[09:58] <nuaimat> BobSongs: ok , i will read it, brb
[09:58] <dr_willis> AngryElf,  i was thinking any output got emailed to root by default
[09:58] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: if you are SSH'ed in as another user, it won't work, as that user is probably logged into /home
[09:58] <A[D] minS> i can't axx my home " write or edit files"
[09:59] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: the "fuser" and "lsof" commands are useful for checking which processes are using a particular directory
[09:59] <Carsarus> ok, i'm having some slight trouble i have a dual boot system on my hard drive Windows and Ubuntu, but when i go into either system i can't view the other filesystems files
[09:59] <A[D] minS> what i have to type by chomd command to make me able to edit files in my home
[09:59] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: fuser /home ; lsof /home
[09:59] <A[D] minS> !chmod
[09:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about chmod - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:59] <agliodbs> hey, I'm thinking of setting up ubuntu on a new server instead of SuSE
[09:59] <jayk-> What Bob Song are you listening to? Mr Tambourine Man? :)
[09:59] <agliodbs> but I'm used to buying a DVD and installing from there.  How do I do ubuntu?
[09:59] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: if you have no write access, chmod probably isn't what you need, it was probably not mounted properly
[09:59] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: is root able to write on the partition ?
[10:00] <A[D] minS> Samus_Aran: yes
[10:00] <nu> I installed my nvidia driver, anyone know where the settings can be edited? id like to use dual monitors
[10:00] <A[D] minS> thats why i think its chmod problem
[10:00] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, I think that a reboot will be safe, we've had to do it before
[10:00] <dr_willis> nu got to do some manual editing of the xorg.conf - google for some twinview examples. and the nvidia docs
[10:00] <Samus_Aran> agliodbs: Ubuntu provides CDs free of charge (4-6 weeks delivery time), or you can download a CD or DVD image to burn on your own
[10:00] <_Rappy_> how am I supposed to run a .bin file from the shell?
[10:00] <nu> dr_willis: thanks
[10:00] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: is this your /home partition, or which ?
[10:00] <rmw75> need help getting broadcom 4306 wireless card working
[10:01] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: it might be that some files are owned by the "root" user rather than your login user
[10:01] <A[D] minS> Samus_Aran:  yes
[10:01] <dr_willis> sh whatever.bin
[10:01] <A[D] minS> Samus_Aran: all files " even i can't creat files"
[10:01] <nu> <3
[10:01] <nu> im using xubuntu and i looooove it lol
[10:01] <_Rappy_> thanks dr_willis :)
[10:01] <nu> it sh!ts on suse
[10:01] <agliodbs> Samus_Aran: thanks.
[10:01] <Howitzer> Is it normal my /var/log/syslog's last log was over a month ago? :o
[10:02] <bit_doidao> Hi! Does anyone knows if i can "desvirtualize" a vmware machine and install it as a normal linux instalation?
[10:02] <Samus_Aran> unless the .bin is a .bin/.cue file, in which case it needs to be converted to ISO (bin2iso) or played as an MPEG file (mplayer foo.bin) or burned to a CD as a multitrack raw CD image (cdrecord)
[10:02] <Howitzer> it never wrote anything there
[10:02] <nu> when someone posts a link here on xchat, and i click it to open, i get an error. anyone else get this?
[10:02] <bit_doidao> nu, try to configure the default webbrowser
[10:02] <dr_willis> or a .bin could be a binary rom image file for an emulator... or it could be....  (get the idea) :PO
[10:02] <Howitzer> what error
[10:02] <azureal> nope, didnt work.... you lose Sir_Fawnpug =P
[10:02] <nu> bit_doidao: i have
[10:02] <nu> falae maluco
[10:02] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: which user are you trying to create files as when you get that error ?
[10:03] <nu> the error is
[10:03] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: and in what directory ?
[10:03] <runes2006> ok this may seem like a really dumb question: What do I use to create automated backups, and does that application also have a gui
[10:03] <nu> hold on let me make a link. www.google.com
[10:03] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: use the command: whoami ; pwd
[10:03] <Dodzey> anyone using dapper actually got a computer that turns off when you shut down?
[10:03] <nu> !nvidia
[10:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:03] <A[D] minS> Samus_Aran: oem
[10:03] <Dodzey> because if you do I'd love to know how the hell you got it working
[10:03] <nu> error is
[10:03] <hussam> anyone here using xchat-gnome?
[10:03] <agliodbs> Samus_Aran: am I realistically going to be able to get Apache + PHP4 up and running in a couple hours?
[10:03] <runes2006> yes huss
[10:03] <A[D] minS>  whoami ; pwd
[10:03] <A[D] minS> oem
[10:03] <A[D] minS> /home/oem
[10:03] <Samus_Aran> Dodzey: I never shutdown, so I dunno if it works or not, heh
[10:03] <ThunderStruck> !anyone > hussam
[10:03] <azureal> i'm using xchat; it might be xchat-gnome =P
[10:04] <runes2006> agliodbs, yes
[10:04] <nu> unable to show url. there was an error launching the default action associated with this location
[10:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, did you test your setroot you're using?
[10:04] <nu> thats what i get when i click a link here
[10:04] <bit_doidao> nu, when i right click and choose open link in browser, it does what i want
[10:04] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  hmm..  you can set inittab to halt instead of reboot when you alt-ctrl-delete. or run the halt command...   all mine halt I think.
[10:04] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: okay, so what does this output: \ls -ld /home/oem
[10:04] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: i _need_ an app that can set bg
[10:04] <nu> bit_doidao: i get that error
[10:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, fbsetroot comes iwth fluxbox
[10:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> You can use others
[10:04] <azureal> trying feh
[10:04] <A[D] minS> drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 2006-08-04 23:55 /home/oem
[10:04] <runes2006> ok this may seem like a really dumb question: What do I use to create automated backups, and does that application also have a gui?
[10:04] <Dodzey> dr_willis:ohh it halts fine, it just doesn't switch the damn thing off
[10:04] <azureal> yay =P
[10:04] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: well somehow you have changed ownership of your home directory to root
[10:04] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  thats an apci issue then.