[09:59] <fish_> sounds like: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/42802
[09:59] <aujordanh> Leeif: when a version of dapper comes out, you can get updated versions of software unless you change your repositories, and if you are new to ubuntu i dont recommend it
[09:59] <richiefrich> Zyfo i guess u doent see my point
[09:59] <doctormo> mister_roboto: nah, it's for security and keeping things tidy, imagen if you had a number of different kernels installed each with several versioned files all in / ? ew
[09:59] <fish_> but there is status fixed
[09:59] <Zyfo> mister_roboto: ok, I see
[09:59] <richiefrich> why have 3  /boot ?
[10:00] <Zyfo> richiefrich: nope I don't, that's the problem :P
[10:00] <richiefrich> when u can have ONE!!
[10:00] <mister_roboto> doctormo: actually, i DO have several kernels installed
[10:00] <mister_roboto> doctormo: and it's trivial to boot between them with grub
[10:00] <qos> hi, there is a problem when mounting a FAT device. i cannot change the directory permissions with chown! is this because of the filesystem limitations?
[10:00] <doctormo> mister_roboto: then I'm suprised your against a directory (man I can't believe I'm even discusing this)
[10:00] <automated> qos, dosfstools
[10:00] <automated> and qos what does dmesg say
[10:00] <enyc> qos: yes
[10:00] <doctormo> qos: correct
[10:00] <richiefrich> thats like .. coping all your  mp3's  to 3 seperate partitions
[10:01] <qos> automated, what?
[10:01] <richiefrich> waste of space
[10:01] <enyc> qos: FAT has *no* UID/GID (ownership)
[10:01] <mister_roboto> doctormo: the contents of my single directory are absolutely no diff if they were located on a separately mounted partition
[10:01] <shwag> why does  apt-get install webalizer  try to install  x11-common  ?
[10:01] <automated> shwag, its called a dep
[10:01] <qos> okay, but whats about dosfstools?
[10:01] <enyc> qos: no FAT version can have files over 4gb either (2^32-1 actually)
[10:01] <|pixie|> hi all !
[10:01] <Plymouth> I've got a problem with accessing directories in ubuntu, There's a 'Places' menu at the top of the screen from which a 'home' folder can be clicked on, but nothing seems to happen when I try it!  How do I control where downloads from the internet are placed on my system, and how do I access them thereafter?
[10:01] <Renan_s2> hi, |pixie|
[10:01] <Zyfo> richiefrich: if I only have windows and ubuntu though, will it still make a difference? windows don't have or can't make use of a /boot, or?
[10:01] <|pixie|> I need an advice.
[10:01] <doctormo> mister_roboto: so are you argusing about the partition or the directory? hmm, and does it matter?
[10:01] <automated> enyc, yeah it can
[10:01] <shwag> qos, chown isnt for changing mounted permissions on fat. look at the mount command or in fstab.
[10:02] <Zyfo> |pixie|: ask your question :)
[10:02] <enyc> automated: I dont beleive you ;-)
[10:02] <richiefrich> Zyfo no
[10:02] <rabeldable> waste of space?  /boot is only 20Mb
[10:02] <|pixie|> I just recieved a new 80 Gib IDE HD, I was wondering how to partition it
[10:02] <mister_roboto> doctormo: i wanted to hear the explanation of how it was more flexible
[10:02] <automated> enyc, i have huge ISO on my usb hdd
[10:02] <mister_roboto> doctormo:  there was no explanation of that. becuase it's not true
[10:02] <richiefrich> Zyfo but i dont run windows.. and i advise against ir
[10:02] <automated> and they are like 4 gigs
[10:02] <richiefrich> ir/it
[10:02] <enyc> automated: FAT12/16/32 ... varios drive limits... but there is no field for files over 4gb
[10:02] <|pixie|> I will install Ubuntu along aise with other distro's and windows
[10:02] <automated> yeah whatever
[10:02] <shwag> automated, isnt it kinda strange that a web log analizer would require x11-common and laptop-detect ???
[10:02] <Zyfo> mister_roboto: I guess if you've got 10+ distros or so it makes more sense, maybe :P
[10:02] <enyc> automated: and ... how big is it?
[10:02] <aujordanh> Plymouth: you would set the download location in you browser
[10:02] <doctormo> Zyfo: all operating systems boot with the first sector of the hard drive, grub in the case of linux, grub will either load the contents of /boot or the first sector of your windows partition
[10:02] <qos> enyc, i heard FAT partitions are unstable with sizes over 20GB ... is this right?
[10:02] <Flosoft> how do I enable SMART on my HDDs? I get this error when I try to mount my LVM partition: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FAiLJo47.html
[10:03] <enyc> qos: not that I know of at all
[10:03] <Zyfo> doctormo: ah
[10:03] <automated> qos, i have a 80 gig fat hdd
[10:03] <doctormo> qos: yes, FAT is limited to 2GB
[10:03] <automated> usb at that
[10:03] <qos> automated, cool :)
[10:03] <enyc> doctormo: no
[10:03] <|pixie|> So my question is should I make logical partitions inside an extentened one ?
[10:03] <doctormo> automated: you mean FAT32 :-D
[10:03] <enyc> doctormo: FAT16 is limited to 2gb
[10:03] <richiefrich> Zyfo but u se my point now..  it's more for boot speed... and flexiblity.. i have my  /boot as jfs
[10:03] <automated> doctormo, OH yeha
[10:03] <automated> lol
[10:03] <enyc> doctormo: iirc FAT12 is about 32mb limit
[10:03] <qos> doctormo, i mean FAT32 (hope so) :)
[10:03] <cruddpuppet> Can someone help me here?
[10:03] <richiefrich> Zyfo boots alot quicker then  ext2/ext3
[10:03] <enyc> cruddpuppet: maybe
[10:03] <mkns> possibly, cruddpuppet
[10:04] <cruddpuppet> does anyone know where to download fonts for ubuntu?
[10:04] <enyc> automated: dhow big is the ISO file ?
[10:04] <Zyfo> richiefrich: alright, how many distoros do you have then and how big is your /boot? and what other partitions do you use?
[10:04] <automated> round 4 gigs
[10:04] <automated> then i have a few movies in a tarball around 12 gigs
[10:04] <enyc> automated: just try to put 2 copies of that file in a big tar/zip or someething....
[10:04] <richiefrich> Zyfo i have / /boot /home /usr /var /tmp
[10:04] <Plymouth> aujordanh:  Doesn't work for me!  The download just occurs without asking where I want the files put!
[10:04] <enyc> automated: hrrm  what filesystem is this? ;-)
[10:04] <soundray> |pixie|: in order to make use of the space inside the extended partition, you *have to* make logical ones inside
[10:04] <|pixie|> Renan_s2:  Do you have a recomandation _
[10:04] <automated> fat32
[10:04] <richiefrich> Zyfo and i run 4 distros
[10:04] <doctormo> I really need a new hard drive my current one is at 20GB, even my broken powerbook which is 4 years old has 60GB
[10:04] <qos> has ext2 directory permissions which can be set? i worked only with ext3 until now
[10:05] <Renan_s2> I don't know
[10:05] <aujordanh> Plymouth: check your firefox settings
[10:05] <mkns> cruddpuppet: apt-cache search fonts would be a good place to start
[10:05] <cruddpuppet> thanks
[10:05] <doctormo> qos: yes
[10:05] <cruddpuppet> err, whats that
[10:05] <cruddpuppet> apt-cache?
[10:05] <Zyfo> richiefrich: how big are /usr /var and /tmp and for what reason do you have them separate? (sorry for all beginner questions)
[10:05] <mkns> it checks your local cache of the apt repositories
[10:05] <|pixie|> soundray: I know that... But is it worth doing extended partition, or I can make 4 or 5 logical partitions just like that
[10:05] <cruddpuppet> oh, thanks :)
[10:05] <qos> doctormo, other things which makes ext2 special?
[10:05] <richiefrich> Zyfo i have /  <-- ext3   /boot    <-- jfs  /home  <-- xfs   /usr  <-- exte  /var  <-- jfs  /tmp  <-- /jfs
[10:05] <enyc> qos: ext2 ext3 no differnce  except journalling-reliablility basically
[10:06] <mkns> cruddpuppet: is there a specific font you are after?
[10:06] <enyc> qos: there is not really any functional difference
[10:06] <cruddpuppet> nope
[10:06] <soundray> |pixie|: you can't make logical partitions if you don't have an extended one.
[10:06] <danf_1979> .  /var contains the mysql. It can grow a lot... /tmp is for security reasons. You can disable program executions in there...
[10:06] <Enverex> lol, I just have an ext3 /boot and reiserfs root
[10:06] <Zyfo> richiefrich: wth is jfs, xfs and exte? :O I've only heard of fats, ntfs, ext2/3 and swap
[10:06] <doctormo> qos: it's old and it used to work from boot when ext3 was new to the kernel so sometimes you couldn't boot up because ext3 was a module instead of inside the kernel
[10:06] <richiefrich> Zyfo no problem in ?'s.. i try to do my best in snawering
[10:06] <automated> lol
[10:06] <danf_1979> well, var also contains the logs...
[10:06] <qos> enyc, cool :) i need a filesystem with all functions of ext3 but without journaling :)
[10:06] <soundray> |pixie|: if you don't have an extended partition, you can have a maximum of 4 primary ones.
[10:06] <|pixie|> soundray: are you sure ? Gparted allows many logical partitions
[10:06] <enyc> automated: look at the page on wikipedia...   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table
[10:06] <Zyfo> ah thanks danf_1979
[10:07] <enyc> qos that is ext2 then ;-)
[10:07] <braini> 4 primary are max
[10:07] <profoX`> I read somewhere that gksudo is safer than sudo... how is this true ?
[10:07] <richiefrich> Zyfo just for eaiser backup.. more flexiblity.. thats why i do i..
[10:07] <qos> great!
[10:07] <braini> gksudo is sudo for xapps
[10:07] <soundray> |pixie|: gparted will create the extended partition automatically if you create a logical one. And, yes, I am sure.
[10:07] <Zyfo> richiefrich: ok
[10:07] <doctormo> profoX`: nah thats just the version for the gui gnome
[10:07] <danf_1979> The problem with /tmp is that is world writeable. Thats why you want to disable program executions...
[10:07] <enyc> qos: linux around 2.4.9 added ext3... basically you can use ext3 in 2.4.18 or 2.4.21/later or 2.6.x  with no problems
[10:07] <doctormo> kdesu is the nice program for kde
[10:08] <Zyfo> ok
[10:08] <richiefrich> Zyfo and the size...   / <- 1G  /boot <-- 50M /home <-- 150G /usr <-- 5G /var <-- 5G
[10:08] <enyc> qos: you can mount an EXT3 filesystem with and ext2 kernel/driver  solong as it was unmounted cleanly
[10:08] <profoX`> braini, doctormo : i know but i read on a forum that gksudo was alot safer than sudo, which was beyond my understanding, since it is the same thing behind the screens
[10:08] <richiefrich>  /tmp <-- 2G
[10:08] <|pixie|> soundray: so I shall make one logical NTFS partiton, which will be automaticaly inside an extended one, and 4 or five logical partitions for linux inside another ext. part ?
[10:08] <Tokeiito> what RPG games you can recomend for linux?
[10:08] <|pixie|> soundray: is this a good setup ?
[10:08] <soundray> |pixie|: no
[10:08] <richiefrich> Zyfo u get hat
[10:08] <danf_1979> cd /tmp | wget http://some_program.tar.gz | cd some_program | ./configure | make <------- danger
[10:08] <braini> its safer for xapps.. as far as i know
[10:09] <richiefrich> that*
[10:09] <doctormo> profoX`: without the article I can't say I agree or not
[10:09] <Zyfo> richiefrich: ah, ok
[10:09] <mjr> Tokeiito, nwn is old but good and there are a lot of fan-made modules for it on the net
[10:09] <erUSUL> |pixie|: only one extended part per disk iirc
[10:09] <qos> enyc, dont know what you mean exacly, seems thats that beyond my skill ^^
[10:09] <doctormo> Tokeiito: have you tried plane shift?
[10:09] <enyc> qos: its not really important...
[10:09] <|pixie|> soundray: so what do you recomand?
[10:09] <richiefrich> Zyfo i prune alot too.. and i rice my  system.. for better performance
[10:09] <enyc> qos: Why do you want ext2 (no journalling?)
[10:09] <profoX`> braini: dutch ubuntu forum ;) someone just said "gksudo is for graphical apps and it is safer than sudo"
[10:09] <soundray> |pixie|: if you want to run Windows, you should put it on a primary partition, ideally the first one (hda1)
[10:09] <braini> yeah
[10:09] <richiefrich> Zyfo so I dont keep all the junk i dont use
[10:10] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> nybody knws abt dapper drake hvin probs with SATA HDD's
[10:10] <Zyfo> richiefrich: ok
[10:10] <Tokeiito> NWN, planeshift k i'll try these. thank you
[10:10] <soundray> |pixie|: the rest of the drive should be occupied by the extended partition, inside of which you can create as many logical ones for Linux as you see fit.
[10:10] <Enverex> Tokeiito, NWN is commercial btw, you have to pay for iy
[10:10] <Tokeiito> mm
[10:10] <Tokeiito> i see
[10:10] <|pixie|> soundray: that is done, it'll be a primary... linux part can also be primaries ?
[10:10] <soundray> |pixie|: don't forget to label one of them as swap
[10:11] <qos> enyc, i am created an encrypted partition and journaling filesystems can create several security problems. so i want one without :)
[10:11] <Enverex> Tokeiito, NWN stands for Neverwinter Nights incase no-one mentioned what it means, heh
[10:11] <Ace2005> cruddpuppet: There are some good fonts here http://www.typenow.net/themed.htm
[10:11] <soundray> |pixie|: yes, Linux will install in primary as well as logical ones.
[10:11] <enyc> qos: hrrm.... using TrueCrypt?
[10:12] <enyc> qos: journalling is important for reliability.......
[10:12] <qos> enyc, please explain that...
[10:12] <|pixie|> soundray: so let's summarize: the first primary part will be ntfs for winxp, and than sould I make primaries or logical ones for linux ?
[10:12] <qos> enyc, yes. truecrypt
[10:13] <Kassah> is there a way to check what files a package provides? paticularly in the etc dir?
[10:13] <soundray> |pixie|: I would make only logicals, but it strictly doesn't matter
[10:13] <Plymouth> aujordanh:  Yup, I've just changed to a 'Downloads' folder, but it doesn't exist in the Places menu!  (I think I'm being very dumb here ;)  )
[10:13] <|pixie|> soundray: can you explain why ?
[10:13] <soundray> |pixie|: you want me to explain why it doesn't matter?
[10:14] <rambo3> max 5 i think is primary partitions
[10:14] <Exposure`> I've got a problem with text (kernel bootparams, kinit stuff) overwriting fbsplash during early boot. Anyone seen anything similar?
[10:14] <rambo3> get one primary for winxp and the rest logical
[10:14] <|pixie|> soundray: no - lol - I want u to explain why you'd logical ones, if you can
[10:15] <soundray> rambo3: because then you have a succession of hda5, hda6, hda7,...,hdaX which all belong to Linux.
[10:16] <soundray> rambo3: if you do one or two primary ones for Linux, you will have either hda2, hda3, hda5... or hda2, hda5,...
[10:16] <rambo3> yeah thanks , i didnt ask
[10:16] <soundray> |pixie|: sorry, I addressed the lines to rambo3 that were meant for you
[10:16] <|pixie|> soundray: yeah I thought so
[10:17] <mitch_> #ubuntu
[10:17] <qos> enyc?
[10:17] <|pixie|> soundray: yeah now I remember fro my last HD , i had seemilar tree like you described
[10:17] <|pixie|> so I'll go with the primaries
[10:18] <|pixie|> soundray: 10x alot.
[10:18] <yipe> !ssh
[10:18] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:19] <mitch_> I'm having trouble with cups I can connect from the local machine but not from others on the network
[10:19] <enyc> qos: hangon
[10:19] <Kassah> How do I reconfigure a package?
[10:19] <lhds> where does the installer download the packages? in what dir?
[10:19] <soundray> Kassah: sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename
[10:19] <mkns> dpkg-reconfigure
[10:20] <soundray> lhds: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:20] <qos> enyc, ok. no problem...
[10:20] <enyc> qos: the journalling is important in the case the system freezes etc.
[10:20] <Kassah> soundray: thanks
[10:20] <mikm> I've been having trouble installing 64-bit Dapper onto my PC.  It freezes during various points in the configuring/installing packages phase (it seems to happen most often on "gcalctool").  I've run memcheck and it reports no errors.  32-bit Dapper installs without a problem.
[10:20] <enyc> qos: or powercut or anything else
[10:20] <lhds> can i delete the content of the package folder?
[10:20] <harisund> Hello! Does anybody here have suggestions for removing all eye candy from Gnome? How much can I strip from it?
[10:20] <enyc> qos: it stops you getting filesystem corruption....  in short
[10:21] <lhds> can i delete the content of the package folder? all the .deb files?
[10:21] <mikm> I get the same issue with the alternative-install disc as well
[10:21] <enyc> qos: when that happens
[10:21] <Kassah> soundray: I've been trying to get sshd running via /etc/init.d/ssh start... but it gives me: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key and Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[10:21] <pastortom> Ive installed a brand new slim Laptop NEC dvd-burner in this G3 iMac but it wont reckognize the ubuntu desktop version cd during bootup
[10:21] <pastortom> dont tell me I have to use the original 24x apple cd-rom drive?
[10:21] <pastortom> I had to use that one when I installed the OS 9.2 system on it, the machine wouldnt reckognize the install cd with the new dvd-drive
[10:21] <enyc> qos: the journal means the filesystem drier can 'recover' from where the system stopped
[10:22] <qos> so i have to choose between security and reliability?
[10:22] <mikm> I have an AMD 3800+ X2 (AM2) on an MSI K9N neo mobo
[10:22] <pastortom> does any of this make any sence to you guys?
[10:23] <tailsfan> If you order CDs from Shipt in the one week, does that week start off the four week countdown or is it the week after?
[10:23] <lhds> can i delete the content of the package folder? in /var/cache/apt/archives/??????
[10:23] <pastortom> all cache can be deleted
[10:23] <harisund> lhds you can do "sudo apt-get clean" and "sudo apt-get autoclean"
[10:23] <ardchoille> sudo apt-get clean
[10:23] <Kassah> any ideas?
[10:23] <[Ex0r] > pastortom- Did you make sure that the dvd-rom was bootable ?
[10:23] <soundray> Kassah: run "sudo ssh-keygen -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key -N '' -t rsa1" (note there are two single quotes in there)
[10:23] <lhds> thanc for the info
[10:24] <lhds> kassah are you an arab?
[10:24] <Kassah> oh heh!
[10:24] <simian__> i've got a laptop that is out of warrenty, one day it mad a stange noise and then when i rebooted it it said it can't find an operating system. i can't install linux becuase it can't find a hard disk. so i have come to the conclusion that the HD has broke. I've now removed the HD and found an exact match here http://www.laptopshop.co.uk/laptop-hard-drives.htm?ppcse=google&gclid=CMaQjvrft4YCFU6kFQodTk7GRw  but i feel like i'm
[10:24] <Kassah> lhds: sorry no... native Oregoinian, USA
[10:24] <qos> btw: is there a history of typed commands stored when working in a screen emulator?
[10:24] <soundray> Kassah: for everything else, refer to man ssh-keygen
[10:24] <Kassah> soundray: I forgot to use sudo when starting it
[10:24] <lhds> kassah means kill them all in arabic
[10:24] <erUSUL> qos: of course just use the up/down arrow
[10:25] <Kassah> hmm...
[10:25] <soundray> qos: depends on the shell. Try typing 'history'
[10:25] <harisund> qos: I think each screen window has its own history
[10:25] <enyc> simian__: sounds quite possible
[10:25] <Kassah> not a very nice word....
[10:25] <enyc> simian__: dont count on being able to recover the contents of the previous hdd however
[10:25] <pastortom> [Ex0r]  what do you mean by bootable? the dvd-rom disc? I used the iso.file I get from ubuntus site
[10:25] <pastortom> for powermac
[10:25] <pastortom> powerpc
[10:25] <pastortom> iMac G3 etc
[10:25] <tailsfan> Can anyone answer that question for me?
[10:25] <[Ex0r] > pastortom- no, the dvd-drive
[10:26] <Cntryboy> I'm trying to compile gyachi, and ./configure goes fine until end then talks about alsa, even though alsamixer in command prompt works.. heres error http://pastebin.ca/105658
[10:26] <[Ex0r] > make sure it's bootable
[10:26] <[Ex0r] > gotta head off to work, later all!
[10:26] <pastortom> oh, there are different ones for that?
[10:26] <pastortom> damn
[10:26] <pastortom> how do I make it bootable?
[10:26] <Kassah> lhds: thanks for the heads up
[10:26] <qos> soundray, harisund ... i am using screen mainly because i dont want to save my history after closing my terminal. can i disable this function?
[10:26] <simian__> enyc: i think i will try it, i'm just worried that i will pay out 100 for somthing that doesn't make any difference
[10:26] <harisund> qos you don't want to save your history???
[10:27] <harisund> qos in that case you can create something like a .bash_logout file and type in "history -c" in that which would erase the command line history every time you logot
[10:27] <FusionXN1> Hello all!
[10:27] <lhds> can i add a picture for user in gaim msn?
[10:27] <Cntryboy> anyone know?
[10:27] <qos> harisund, thanks :) will try something like that
[10:28] <soundray> qos: you could probably also do 'export HISTSIZE=0'
[10:28] <harisund> Hello FUsionXN1 !
[10:28] <tailsfan> If you order CDs from Shipt in the one week, does that week start off the four week countdown or is it the week after?
[10:28] <FusionXN1> harisund: Hey :)
[10:28] <harisund> quo, soundray's is a good idea... a better one actually
[10:28] <FusionXN1> mkns: You again, can't get rid of you :p
[10:28] <mkns> FusionXN1: i'm your nemesis
[10:28] <mkns> ;)
[10:28] <harisund> qos, with soundary's suggestion, you wont *have* a history .. so no need to *delete* it in the end ...
[10:28] <Cntryboy> I'm trying to compile gyachi, and ./configure goes fine until end then talks about alsa, even though alsamixer in command prompt works.. heres error http://pastebin.ca/105658
[10:28] <tokenbad> didn't know there was so many skins for xmms....found a file with 700 of them...thats cool
[10:28] <jmichaelx> could anyone out there give a desperate man some help trying to get a broadcom wireless card working?
[10:28] <FusionXN1> mkns: lol! Well I come for some advice if that is ok
[10:29] <enyc> simian__: well you need somebody with enought equivalent computer bits etc. to work it out ;-)
[10:29] <Cntryboy> come on someone Im in a hurry :(
[10:29] <Cntryboy> paalease
[10:29] <harisund> jmichaelx what os are you using? I mean Dapper or Breezy?
[10:29] <qos> enyc, ext2 is spread very much, why is it used so often when there is ext3 with journaling?
[10:29] <FusionXN1> Cntryboy: whats wrong
[10:29] <jmichaelx> harisund: dapper/kubuntu
[10:29] <harisund> hmm... ok .. so at what stage are you stuck? Is your card an internal wireless card?
[10:29] <Cntryboy> fusion read what I pasted with pastebin error
[10:29] <FusionXN1> mkns: I'll pm you..
[10:30] <mjr> qos, I don't think it's used very much anymore
[10:30] <Cntryboy> so I don't flood channel with same help msg lol
[10:30] <mjr> that is, I don't think your premise is correct
[10:30] <qos> mjr, i thought i read about it
[10:30] <FusionXN1> I have problems with programs and my sound in ubuntu should I do a clean reformat and start over?
[10:31] <jmichaelx> harisund: it is a dell truemobile 1470 dual band internal.... and i have tried everything to get ndiswrapper working.... i did have it working on a previous installation of dapper
[10:31] <mkns> FusionXN1: i don't think pm is working as i might be unregistered
[10:31] <jmichaelx> harisund: i am afraid that unravelling this is going to be complicated
[10:31] <harisund> jmichaelx is the card being recognized? As in is it shown in a ifconfig or iwconifg listing?
[10:31] <Cntryboy> fusionxn1: did ya read it?
[10:31] <FusionXN1> mkns: I had to register to get in here... anyway my question is above ^
[10:31] <FusionXN1> Cntryboy: Ya, and if I could help I would :)
[10:32] <mkns> FusionXN1: how old is your PC?
[10:32] <Cntryboy> oh ok
[10:32] <FusionXN1> Sorry mate
[10:32] <Cntryboy> np
[10:32] <FusionXN1> mkns: Im upgrading it all the time
[10:32] <yumigator> What is the PKG_CONFIG_PATH for Ubuntu binary packages?
[10:32] <mkns> well, i installed from scratch yesterday and had no problems but my PC is only 6 months old
[10:32] <mkns> FusionXN1: have you got a live CD?
[10:33] <FusionXN1> mkns: Anarok is showing twice in open with, i installed my sound drivers and my sound disappeared
[10:33] <FusionXN1> mkns: 6.06 so ya live/install
[10:33] <harisund> jmichaelx any response?
[10:33] <FusionXN1> mkns, Do you remember me having trouble with my tvtuner?
[10:33] <jmichaelx> harisund: no, it is not being recognized, although if i de-blacklist the bcm43xx driver, it is recognized
[10:33] <mkns> how about you try booting from a DVD with the live disc and seeing if sound works straight off like that?
[10:33] <mkns> FusionXN1: no
[10:33] <FusionXN1> mkns: It does
[10:33] <pablo_> hi
[10:34] <Kassah> off to crash my computer
[10:34] <mkns> FusionXN1: so it works from live but not once you've written to HD?
[10:34] <harisund> so perhaps we could start from that then jmichaelx? Once iwconfig can list it we are pretty much done :)
[10:34] <Cntryboy> can someone please help me with a ./configure error that is requesting alsa even though I have it.. Heres error >>>>> http://pastebin.ca/105658
[10:34] <pablo_> can i install mutt withoun installing postfix?
[10:34] <FusionXN1> mkns, well I got mythtv and it detects my card and finds 88 channels but i goto watch TV and the screen flashs black and thats it
[10:34] <FusionXN1> mikns, no once i installed driver form realtek
[10:34] <FusionXN1> mkns: *
[10:34] <pablo_> i will use mutt with msmtp so i dont want postfix
[10:35] <jmichaelx> harisund: the strange thing is that although i have attempted to manually remove the bcmwl5 driver that i downloaded from dell, ndiswrapper -l still shows it being installed
[10:35] <mkns> FusionXN1: i think you've got many problems that I can't help you with unfortunately
[10:35] <FusionXN1> mkns: Thats why i said should i start over?
[10:35] <harisund> I think you can use ndiswrapper to forcibly disable the module?
[10:35] <stefg> Cntryboy: do you have the libasound2-dev installed?
[10:35] <jmichaelx> harisund: please look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19203
[10:35] <mkns> it's probably not a bad idea, if there is nothing that you'd miss losing
[10:36] <cruddpuppet> how do i install the font?
[10:36] <cruddpuppet> I've downloaded a font, I just don't know how to install it
[10:36] <cruddpuppet> I've downloaded a font, I just don't know how to install it
[10:36] <cruddpuppet> sorry
[10:36] <FusionXN1> mkns, I have 2 other harddrives I can backup my data. Just that i dont know which packages i will need again to allow me to run KDE apps, and compile stuff
[10:36] <harisund> jmichaelx I think you should be doing "sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5.inf" instead of giving the entire path. Want to try that?
[10:37] <Amaranth> cruddpuppet: System->Preferences->Font, click details, then click Go to font folder
[10:37] <Cntryboy> stefg: I'm not sure, but i know alsa works
[10:37] <Amaranth> cruddpuppet: then you can just drop the font file in there
[10:37] <mkns> why not get a live DVD with the KDE stuff already on it?#
[10:37] <Cntryboy> let me check
[10:37] <cruddpuppet> you guys are good
[10:37] <pablo_> how do i install mutt without installing any other mail server, as i will use msmtp
[10:37] <jmichaelx> harisund: i will try that
[10:37] <stefg> Cntryboy: you need the alsa-dev files
[10:37] <tom_> hey can someone help me out real quick
[10:37] <cruddpuppet> that doesn't install the font
[10:38] <cruddpuppet> it replaces the font
[10:38] <mkns> the one i got yesterday had such a thing
[10:38] <FusionXN1> mkns, how do you mean
[10:38] <Cntryboy> stefg: I kinda figured that,, so i need dev files for alsa so i can compile it right
[10:38] <Cntryboy> stefg: i just didn't know what to get
[10:38] <stefg> right
[10:38] <tom_> i woke up and my sources.list is gone, so i replace it and its says E: Type 'deb' is not known in on line 4 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:38] <raphaelmsx> hi! just installed ubuntu 6.06 , i was with fedora core 5 but this is WAY faster!!! but  i am with a problem with the gnome panel... i like this way: the launcher on the bottom and the apps switcher right above.. i configure this way, but when i logout and login again, it inverts the position... the switch "save settings" in the session preferences is checked.. please help, this is driving me crazy!
[10:38] <mkns> FusionXN1: the DVD on linux format mag has all the KDE packages on it already
[10:38] <stefg> !info libasound2-dev
[10:38] <ubotu> libasound2-dev: ALSA library development files. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.0.10-2ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 443 kB, installed size 1752 kB
[10:38] <Cntryboy> stefg: is this the only file Ill need?
[10:38] <FusionXN1> mkns: oh
[10:39] <stefg> Cntryboy: don't know yet, but you'll see :-)
[10:39] <harisund> jmichaelx any luck?
[10:39] <FusionXN1> mkns: someone told me how to get anarok 1.4 i wont know how to get that again :(
[10:39] <jmichaelx> harisund: i tried removing the driver without the path, but the result is the same
[10:39] <tom_> i woke up and my sources.list is gone, so i replace it and its says E: Type 'deb' is not known in on line 4 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:39] <mkns> FusionXN1: i've never heard of it, what is it?
[10:40] <FusionXN1> mkns: A very good music app, styles like winamp OR itunes
[10:40] <Cntryboy> kk
[10:40] <Cntryboy> let me try now
[10:40] <harisund> mmmm jmichaelx if I were you I would try and reinstall Ndiswrapper... that is purge it completely and reinstall it as if it is new :)
[10:40] <tom_> i woke up and my sources.list is gone, so i replace it and its says E: Type 'deb' is not known in on line 4 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:41] <wickedly_cool> does anyone know where i might find help on installing Nvidia drivers on ubuntu, i have the source kernel for 2.4 and 2.6 and kernel headers but im not sure if they are the right headers.. ive been able to kill the x server so it doesnt come back and drops me to a prompt so i can start the nvidia driver installation but then gives me a bunch of diffrent errors, eventually i got to it asking for kernel source and so i tryed it poi
[10:41] <mkns> FusionXN1: you mean http://amarok.kde.org/ ?
[10:41] <Cntryboy> stefg: grr now I got this error about libgtkhtml-2.0
[10:41] <Cntryboy> I downloaded that yesterday
[10:41] <harisund> Hello! Does anybody here have suggestions for removing all eye candy from Gnome? How much can I strip from it?
[10:41] <jmichaelx> harisund: strangely, i just ran 'sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5' and it seems to have worked
[10:41] <FusionXN1> mkns: yes sorry amarok
[10:41] <tom_> bah
[10:41] <harisund> jmichaelx then what was it you said earlier that didn't work?
[10:41] <harisund> jmichaelx that was what was supposed to work, without the path that is ....
[10:41] <Cntryboy> stefg: if I got libgtkhtml-2.0 yesterday why is it not listed now?
[10:41] <Cntryboy> blahh
[10:42] <mkns> FusionXN1: so does apt-get install amarok not work then?
[10:42] <lhds> dev     linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-23.39.dsc      root  vmlinuz
[10:42] <lhds> etc     linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15.orig.tar.gz    sbin    can i delete the dsc and the tar.gz files? will that affect the boot?
[10:42] <raphaelmsx> hi! just installed ubuntu 6.06 , i was with fedora core 5 but this is WAY faster!!! but  i am with a problem with the gnome panel... i like this way: the launcher on the bottom and the apps switcher right above.. i configure this way, but when i logout and login again, it inverts the position... the switch "save settings" in the session preferences is checked.. please help, this is driving me crazy!
[10:42] <FusionXN1> mkns: ya but its the old 1.3
[10:42] <stefg> Cntryboy: compiling always requires the *-dev packages
[10:42] <jmichaelx> harisund: sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5.inf should have worked..... without .inf should not have worked (i thought)
[10:42] <Gullstad> How do i get my S-Video cable to work whit ubuntu?
[10:43] <harisund> ah ok ...
[10:43] <Cntryboy> stefg: yes I know but yes. i got the gtkhtml 2.0 and 2-dev of same name lol
[10:43] <Cntryboy> js
[10:43] <Cntryboy> bb in a bit
[10:43] <Cntryboy> thx for help
[10:43] <lol_pies> how do you install a .bin file i sound like a noob but im rlly new to linux
[10:43] <pkiddie> hello everyone im hopeing someone will be able to help me, I've installed ubuntu, and it wrote grub over the MBR (without asking) and grub wouldnt load my win2000 partition so i went into win rescue ran fixboot which didnt help then ran fixmbr which broke everything
[10:44] <pkiddie> not i've booted up with the live disk and fdisk -l doesnt see my drive?
[10:44] <pkiddie> er now
[10:44] <raphaelmsx> anyone?
[10:44] <yuheng108> how do you compile multiple .cc and a .h files together?
[10:44] <jmichaelx> harisund: yes, i think totally purginf ndiswrapper and starting over would be the thing to do.... although i have done that a few times now
[10:44] <pkiddie> raphaelmsx, whats up?
[10:44] <Nekow42> My connection to my router no longer starts on boot. I have to do an "ifup eth0" before it starts. How can I fix this?
[10:44] <pkiddie> yuheng108, gcc name.c name.c name.c
[10:44] <lhds> dev     linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-23.39.dsc      root  vmlinuz
[10:44] <lhds> (11:42:28) lhds: etc     linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15.orig.tar.gz    sbin    can i delete the dsc and the tar.gz files? will that affect the boot?
[10:44] <raphaelmsx> pkiddie: hi! just installed ubuntu 6.06 , i was with fedora core 5 but this is WAY faster!!! but  i am with a problem with the gnome panel... i like this way: the launcher on the bottom and the apps switcher right above.. i configure this way, but when i logout and login again, it inverts the position... the switch "save settings" in the session preferences is checked.. please help, this is driving me crazy!
[10:45] <pkiddie> raphaelmsx, are you trying to link them all togeather one program?
[10:45] <wickedly_cool> whatever ill figure it out on my own or you will have to deal with me again
[10:45] <wickedly_cool> lol
[10:45] <harisund> jmichalex .. ok anyway now that you have removed it ... does iwconfig say anything?
[10:45] <soundray> raphaelmsx: try right click and lock to panel
[10:45] <wickedly_cool> exit
[10:45] <yuheng108> pkiddie,  thanks
[10:45] <raphaelmsx> no it's not this...
[10:45] <jmichaelx> harisund: no
[10:45] <lol_pies> can any1 tell me how to install a .bin file im a noob at ubuntu
[10:45] <FusionXN1> mkns: Should i get ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:45] <Nekow42> lol_pies: which bin file, first....
[10:45] <raphaelmsx> i want to gnome remember the panels positions...
[10:45] <pkiddie> yuheng108, if you start getting big programs look into make its really simple an dmakes things really easy
[10:45] <harisund> lol_pies which .bin file do you want to install?
[10:46] <raphaelmsx> it was automatic in fedora
[10:46] <mkns> FusionXN1: the latter
[10:46] <unfun> pkiddie, do you want to remove linux or just to be able to use win2000?
[10:46] <jmichaelx> harisund: i have bcm43xx blacklisted, so i don't think iwconfig will show anything
[10:46] <FusionXN1> mkns: huh?
[10:46] <harisund> jmichaelx so why did you want to remove the ndiswrapper driver in the first place?
[10:46] <jmichaelx> harisund: to start over as it was not working
[10:46] <mkns> FusionXN1: kubuntu
[10:46] <pkiddie> raphaelmsx, sorry i just installed ubuntu first time i've been using slack and gentoo for years and it wiped my mbr with grub which wont load windows.
[10:46] <FusionXN1> mkns: which do you use
[10:47] <mkns> ubuntu
[10:47] <pkiddie> unfun, well right now i'de be happy being able to boot just linux again but win2000 would be nice also
[10:47] <unfun> I excperiensed the same problem some time ago
[10:47] <Iskander> Can anyone tell me how I can get the packages metioned in this topic: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737
[10:47] <pkiddie> unfun, sata drives?
[10:47] <Nekow42> I have a wired connection to said router (before anyone asks)
[10:47] <unfun> yes
[10:47] <raphaelmsx> soundray: got it now?
[10:48] <mkns> FusionXN1: I HATE kde
[10:48] <harisund> jmichaelx jmichaelx looks like you will have to ask someone else here then :(
[10:48] <soundray> pkiddie: add an extra section to /boot/grub/menu.lst for Windows (there is an example in the commented section of the file)
[10:48] <pkiddie> unfun, yeah i think it has something to do with the sata drives how did you fix it
[10:48] <FusionXN1> mkns: I dont "like" it but a lot of my applications need it
[10:48] <soundray> raphaelmsx: can't help you
[10:48] <Nekow42> lsk: It tells you right there
[10:48] <pkiddie> soundray, right now i cant even get into my linux
[10:48] <mkns> FusionXN1: fair enough
[10:48] <unfun> it was very easy but I can't remember exactly how
[10:48] <pkiddie> soundray, i wiped the mbr so i have no grub
[10:48] <unfun> did fixmbr work?
[10:48] <jmichaelx> harisund: getting these broadcom cards to work is not jus a matter of installing the driver in ndiswrapper
[10:48] <FusionXN1> mkns: Is there anyway to get full KDE support on ubuntu?
[10:48] <pkiddie> unfun, nope broke everything now i get an error no ntldr
[10:48] <Nekow42> Iskander: Everything you need to know is on that page
[10:48] <pkiddie> on boot
[10:48] <Gullstad> How do i get my S-Video cable to work whit ubuntu?
[10:49] <Iskander> ok
[10:49] <mkns> FusionXN1: i'm honest not sure
[10:49] <soundray> pkiddie: apply the advice that the wiki has for when you deleted grub by installing Windows:
[10:49] <soundray> !grub
[10:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:49] <FusionXN1> Gullstad: can you provide more information
[10:49] <raphaelmsx> anyone please help me... in fedora, gnome panels remebered their positions automatically .. but not in ubuntu.. :( please help! this is driving me crazy!
[10:49] <pkiddie> soundray, from the live cd i should be able to mount my real system mount /dev/sda2 /mnt no?
[10:49] <jmichaelx> harisund: do you have any clue what the fatal error i have is about?
[10:50] <Nekow42> Iskander: Where it says "Install the following packages", type "sudo apt-get install packagename"
[10:50] <unfun> pkiddie, wait ill ask a freind
[10:50] <pkiddie> unfun, thanks :)
[10:50] <Gullstad> FusionXN1: Well. The only thing I know is that I get a black TV when using S-Vidio cable from my S-Video port. Drivers accuired?
[10:50] <Nekow42> Iskander: Or search for the packages in the interface at "Syspem/Administration/Synaptic"
[10:51] <xpert> ls
[10:51] <raphaelmsx> anyone please help me... in fedora, gnome panels remebered their positions automatically .. but not in ubuntu.. :( please help! this is driving me crazy!
[10:51] <FusionXN1> Gullstad: i dont know if you need drivers or not i personally dont have s-video / use it
[10:51] <pkiddie> unfun, soundray my real issue right now is why cant i mount my hardrive from the live cd
[10:52] <Nekow42> raphaelmsx: Why not just move everyting on the botrtom panel to the top, and vice-versa?
[10:52] <ravenous> whats the best/easiest way to share files between two ubuntu machines on a local network?
[10:52] <xpert> hey there was someone in here talking about ndiswrapper and belkin drivers a second ago
[10:52] <Nekow42> ravenous: nfs?
[10:52] <Nekow42> !nfs
[10:52] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[10:52] <xpert> anyone remember the driver name
[10:52] <soundray> pkiddie: what happens when you try?
[10:52] <raphaelmsx> Nekow42: Yeah, that's what I am forcing to do everytime I reboot my machine, because it isnt remembering the positions!!!
[10:52] <Gullstad> FusionXN1: I checked the ubuntu-wikies, and I found nothing about S-VIC
[10:52] <Gullstad> VID
[10:52] <ravenous> Nekow42: ill take a look thnx
[10:53] <pkiddie> soundray, try what? fdisk -l /dev/sda says cannot open /dev/sda
[10:53] <Nekow42> How do I make network connections start at boot?
[10:53] <soundray> pkiddie: SATA or SCSI?
[10:53] <Morydd> I appear to have some corruption on my HDD which is causing ubunto to hang when trying to install. Is there a way to work around this?
[10:53] <pkiddie> soundray, sata
[10:54] <soundray> pkiddie: have you tried fdisk -l /dev/hda ?
[10:54] <soundray> pkiddie: or just 'fdisk -l'?
[10:54] <Nekow42> Morydd: http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/Category.asp?Category=15
[10:54] <pkiddie> soundray, yeah but nothing in both cases
[10:54] <_stev_> anybody familiar with tv time? I've problems with my colors, just like there is a spot shining on the faces of the people. any sugestions?
[10:54] <soundray> pkiddie: but you used to be able to boot Linux from that HD, correct?
[10:55] <pkiddie> soundray, correct tell i ran fixmbr from the win rescue console hoping to get win back and then use the win loader for linux
[10:55] <soundray> Gullstad: you will probably find something on the wiki if you search for TVout
[10:55] <pkiddie> windows2000 never booted right but oh well
[10:55] <Gullstad> soundray: I'll try that. Thanks :)
[10:56] <soundray> pkiddie: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:56] <Awesome-o2000> nice - gnome-themes-extras has a really nice blue theme in it
[10:57] <Awesome-o2000> very easy and nice on the eyes
[10:57] <Awesome-o2000> nuvola
[10:57] <jmichaelx> '/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'
[10:57] <pkiddie> soundray, grub complains about there being no drive
[10:57] <rod> hi all
[10:57] <jmichaelx>  is there any way to fix this?
[10:57] <rod> i do need an urgent help
[10:57] <soundray> pkiddie: have you checked the cable connections?
[10:57] <pkiddie> maybe the super grub boot will help though
[10:57] <pkiddie> soundray, haha yeah :)
[10:58] <Nekow42> rod: Never ask to ask, just ask.
[10:58] <soundray> pkiddie: do you see a boot message from the SATA controller saying that your disk is present?
[10:58] <FusionXN1> In Synaptic whats the small ubuntu logos mean on some packages?
[10:58] <Morydd> Nekow42: if I could afford to buy parts for computers, I wouldn't be trying to install on a P3 with 64M RAM :)
[10:58] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: It's official
[10:58] <sohjiroz> Hi everyone, im really new in linux, im triying ubuntu, and want to installa a NVIDIA drivers, first try to stop X ... but i cannot sucefully, im exit the session, open a shell (Ctr+Alt+F1), and try stop "$ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[10:58] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: thanks :)
[10:59] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: SO if i install kdeaddons KDE apps should run fine?
[10:59] <sohjiroz> but always freezes after loading rc.local
[10:59] <rod> i'm trying to instal x3270, but is says that is missing this: screen.c:98:28: error: X11/bitmaps/gray: No such file or directory
[10:59] <Nekow42> Morydd: Well, the only other tip I have is try UBCD and the HD diagnostic tools on there
[10:59] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: nevermind it wont
[10:59] <KarlosII> Anyone familiar with getting a palm treo 650 to work with dapper 6.06
[10:59] <jesspher> is there any p2p program for linux?
[10:59] <Morydd> UBCD?
[10:59] <Nekow42> jesspher: yes, but not in this channel
[10:59] <pkiddie> soundray, in dmesg? what would it look like?
[10:59] <KarlosII> jesspher its called BITTORRENT
[10:59] <sohjiroz> LimerWire
[11:00] <rod> i've tried to install xlibs-dat but i got a duplicate package conflict..
[11:00] <soundray> pkiddie: no, I mean BIOS messages, before you even get to the grub menu.
[11:00] <pkiddie> soundray, i see it in dmesg. scsi device sda
[11:00] <Nekow42> Morydd: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[11:00] <rod> is there a way to update just x11/bitmap/gay??
[11:00] <jmichaelx> i am getting a fatal missing module error '/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko' .... is there any way i can correct this?
[11:00] <rod> ops
[11:00] <rod>  x11/bitmap/gray!
[11:01] <pkiddie> soundray,  scsil: ata_piix  vendor ata model maxtor 6l300s0...
[11:01] <farous> !ndiswrapper
[11:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:01] <Nekow42> rod: lol, here I was, thinging you were a troll
[11:01] <rod> Nekow42, hehe lol
[11:01] <pkiddie> soundray, oh wow here are some errors though:  driver sd needs updating please use but_type methods
[11:02] <rod> Nekow42, any idea?
[11:02] <pkiddie> sda: unknown partition table
[11:02] <sohjiroz> Hi everyone, im really new in linux, im triying ubuntu, and want to installa a NVIDIA drivers, first try to stop X ... but i cannot sucefully, im exit the session, open a shell (Ctr+Alt+F1), and try stop "$ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop,  but always freezes after loading rc.local, i check the file, but nothing its execute there ....
[11:02] <Nekow42> rod: You could FTP into the deb repository, unpack the deb manually, and comy it...
[11:02] <Nekow42> *copy
[11:02] <jmichaelx> i would recommend staying away from those evil community wifi docs for broadcom cards
[11:02] <Luka1> Do you recommend me to use ubuntu 6.06 for my PC? Intel Pentium 667Mhz, 192MB of RAM.
[11:02] <rod> Nekow42, i'm newbie :(
[11:03] <soundray> pkiddie: what's the kernel version on your live CD?
[11:03] <mister_roboto> sohjiroz: did you just try logging out and choose a console session when you log in?
[11:03] <Nekow42> rod: \okay... let me see
[11:03] <pkiddie> soundray, it seems that it must be fine with the bios cuz dmesg finds it.  live kernel 2.6.15-23
[11:03] <Miek> Luka1: xubuntu might be more suitable
[11:03] <KarlosII> Anyone familiar with getting a palm treo 650 to work with dapper 6.06, not sure where to start, if u can point me in the right direction.
[11:03] <soundray> pkiddie: you're right, forget about the BIOS messages.
[11:04] <soundray> pkiddie: this is quite clearly a driver problem.
[11:04] <mister_roboto> !tell me about pim
[11:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about pim - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:04] <asdfkp> i am getting this error in mplayer when trying to play anything: "Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.  anyone help?
[11:04] <Nekow42> rod: xarchive provides a nice interface for opening a deb...
[11:04] <jmichaelx> Luka1: in my opinion, ubuntu would run fine on your machine
[11:04] <soundray> pkiddie: you might want to try and locate a live CD with a more recent kernel. Let's see what version DSL has...
[11:04] <pkiddie> soundray, its weird that i had this live disk working earlier though i used it to install.
[11:04] <rod> Nekow42, ok
[11:04] <asdfkp> i am getting this error in mplayer when trying to play anything: "Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound."  Can anyone help?
[11:05] <jmichaelx> Luka1: i have mepis 6.0 installed on a P3 500 Mhz and it works great, wireless and everything
[11:05] <pkiddie> soundray, i download this live disk yesterday doubt there is an later one?  um what about this super grub disk thing on the wiki you linked me
[11:05] <rod> let me check it out
[11:05] <Luka1> jmichaelx:How many RAM do you have?
[11:06] <asdfkp> i am getting this error in mplayer when trying to play anything: "Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.  anyone help?
[11:06] <raindog> While upgrading the packages on my newly installed 6.06 some of the packages failed to download.  I would simply try for them again later.  Now I only have a few packages out of the 184 to go, but the remaining packages are listed as unauthenticated.  How should I proceed?
[11:06] <yuheng108> how do you use vim to program for C++, can anyone give a simple sample?
[11:06] <jmichaelx> Luka1: 256
[11:06] <soundray> pkiddie: I was thinking about a live CD other than Ubuntu.
[11:06] <sohjiroz> nop, the ony option that give me it's a Xterm
[11:06] <pkiddie> soundray, gotcha
[11:06] <Nekow42> asdfkp: Did you recently clear /tmp?
[11:06] <Luka1> I am afraid that 192MB my RAM is so little. :-/
[11:06] <soundray> pkiddie: yes, that one might work
[11:06] <asdfkp> nekow42 no, why would that matter?
[11:06] <pkiddie> soundray, the gotcha live disc?
[11:06] <sohjiroz> and uses X then the installer tell me, please exit theX
[11:06] <asdfkp> Nikow42: should I?
[11:06] <soundray> pkiddie: no, super grub
[11:06] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: vi <myfile.c>    then type in your program, then ":x"  to save it    :)
[11:06] <pkiddie> oh super grub haha
[11:06] <jmichaelx> Luka1: it would be ok to add a little more, but you should be ok.... ubuntu should work
[11:07] <raindog> Luka1:  I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 on a 751mhz and 192ram machine and it runs okay.  However, I am going to try out xfce.
[11:07] <Nekow42> asdfkp: Had the same problem after clear9ing tmp because it killed the sound sockets. Just checking to see...
[11:07] <Luka1> ok :-) Thanks all. I try it.
[11:07] <jmichaelx> mepis uses KDE, and it works perfectly on my 500Mhz P3.... minus anything 3D
[11:07] <dragonfyre13> I have a question about python. Anybody decent  with it?
[11:08] <Nekow42> Luka1: That's the best way to find out anyway
[11:08] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: might try using gvim or some graphical editor, tehn you don't have to worry about command mode vs insert mode, hitting 'i' to insert, 'esc' to go back to command mode, etc
[11:08] <dragonfyre13> or you could use nano. That's my pick
[11:08] <Nekow42> Luka1: If worse comes to worse, you can always switch the DM to fluxbox or something
[11:08] <shawnrgr> whats the fastest, lightest web browser. firefox is killing my syste,
[11:08] <Nekow42> shawnrgr: lynx
[11:09] <dragonfyre13> w3m
[11:09] <Nekow42> shawnrgr: or links. Also try dillo
[11:09] <ardchoille> Nekow42: I didn't know fluxbox had a display manager
[11:09] <yuheng108> mister_roboto, I know how to use vi, just that after I save my program and use gcc to compile it, it gave me a bunch of errors
[11:09] <soundray> pkiddie: Knoppix has kernel 2.6.17
[11:09] <Psha> anyone using RadRails 0.7?
[11:09] <Nekow42> ardchoille: whoops, meant de
[11:09] <Nekow42> ardchoille: and it's really just a wm
[11:09] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: if you're asking how to write a C program, that's probably outside the scope of a one-liner response!   :)
[11:09] <ardchoille> Nekow42: hehe, try again
[11:09] <ardchoille> maybe wm
[11:09] <pkiddie> soundray, really that might be useful ill try that after this super grub thing i think
[11:09] <thundr> I'm having some problems installing ndiswrapper (I'm trying to get wireless to work).
[11:10] <rod> Nekow42, just installed xarchive
[11:10] <dragonfyre13> anybody decent with python?
[11:10] <jmichaelx> thundr: me too :-(
[11:10] <Nekow42> !wireless
[11:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:10] <asdfkp> i am getting this error in mplayer when trying to play anything: "Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.  anyone help?
[11:10] <soundray> pkiddie: hope you can fix it. Got to go
[11:10] <pkiddie> soundray, thanks :)
[11:10] <thundr> jmichaelx, Nekow42: I'm following the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192588
[11:10] <yuheng108> mister_roboto, nono, it's not that, I know how to program in C++ in windows xp, just that I am new to ubuntu, don't know how to compile and run c++ programs
[11:10] <Nekow42> rod: you might have to start it from a terminal. just open a terminal and type "xarchive" (no quotes) and hit enter
[11:11] <rod> Nekow42, done! :)
[11:11] <dragonfyre13> anybody decent with python?
[11:11] <Nekow42> rod: do you have the .deb you want to install?
[11:11] <Luka1> Nekow42:What is "DM"?
[11:11] <farous> ask your question many here worked with python
[11:11] <Luka1> sorry my stupid
[11:11] <rod> yes
[11:11] <dragonfyre13> thanks farous.
[11:11] <FusionXN1> In evolution (mail client) when clicking send / receieve how do you know what its doing?
[11:11] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: it's basically the same as using command line tools in windows.   use "-I<dirname>" to specify your include dirs if they are somewhere other than the current dir
[11:11] <thundr> but I'm having problems on the ndiswrapper step.
[11:11] <jmichaelx> thundr: good luck..... i have one of those, so if you get it to work, let me know
[11:12] <thundr> jmichaelx: you were able to follow the entire guide?
[11:12] <yuheng108> mister_roboto, how do I know where it is?
[11:12] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: you might wanna try getting Eclipse and trying the CDT.
[11:12] <Nekow42> Luka1: DM is display manager. I meant DE, which is also wrong (de=desktop enviroment), fluxbox is a wm (window manager), not a de
[11:12] <rod> Nekow42, just opened it (using xarchive)
[11:12] <jmichaelx> thundr: i have not tried
[11:12] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: or try KDevelop if you're using KDE
[11:12] <Nekow42> rod: find the file you want and extract it... Then do whatever with it.
[11:12] <farous> Nekow42: you mean window manager right
[11:12] <dragonfyre13> I'm trying to spawn a seperate process using os.spawnvp. I can spawn off a gedit process, but as soon as it opens gedit, it continues with the script. I am using os.P_NOWAIT as the first argument.
[11:13] <Luka1> Nekow42:I see. thanks
[11:13] <rod>  Nekow42, now just extract the x11/bitmap/gray ?
[11:13] <yuheng108> mister_roboto, people just told me vim is a good choice for C++ programming, that's why I want to know how to set it up
[11:13] <thundr> jmichaelx: apparently It's worked for other people fine
[11:13] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: trying to teach how to properly compile and link is kind of a big topic if you have never used the command line tools.  you have to link in the libs you reference too
[11:13] <Nekow42> farous: Yes, I meant wm. Brain is broken today
[11:13] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: there is nothing to set up. vim is simply and ONLY a text editor, nothing more
[11:13] <farous> :)
[11:14] <Nekow42> rod: Yes. Keep in mind, I hold no responsibilty if you fubar something...
[11:14] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: it's like using notepad on windows
[11:14] <RobNyc_C> anyone here running 6.10 ? if yes please pm with the sources.list of it
[11:14] <Nekow42> rod: Make backups of everything you are replacing
[11:14] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: you still have to compile and link your program using other tools
[11:14] <yuheng108> mister_roboto,  yea, I know that, I use notepad to program for C++ and java
[11:14] <rod> Nekow42, ok buddy! you rock
[11:14] <FusionXN1> Is there a linux bittorrent client that looks like utorrent?
[11:14] <farous> dragonfyre13: i am afraid i did not use that with python am sure though that most of the ubuntu dev is done through python so wait others sure to help
[11:14] <jmichaelx> thundr: i have not had time to play with it
[11:14] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: kTorrent is a dead ringer
[11:14] <thundr> jmichaelx: okay
[11:14] <dragonfyre13> thanks farous.
[11:14] <farous> FusionXN1: and how do utorrent look like ?
[11:15] <FusionXN1> farous: utorrent.com
[11:15] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: Get the deb from their website, it is newer
[11:15] <dragonfyre13> azureus and rufus look like utorrent/
[11:15] <farous> dragonfyre13: wish i was better help :)
[11:15] <yuheng108> mister_roboto, don't you like just install like a C++ runtime enviroment, and it would be able to compile c files?
[11:15] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: have you compiled from the command line in windows?  do you know how to tell the compiler where to find include files and what libs to link with?   the include files are in /usr/include and the libs are in /usr/lib
[11:15] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: wpw it does look like it
[11:15] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: http://ktorrent.org/
[11:15] <dragonfyre13> that's alright farous. Perhaps you could tell me why it says I need to be identified to get into #python
[11:15] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: ya i googled :)
[11:16] <raindog> I downloaded a .deb package for gaim 2.0b3.  I currently have 1.5 installed.  When I tried to install the package it said that a newer version was installed.  Why is that?
[11:16] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: http://ktorrent.org/images/mwnd.png
[11:16] <yuheng108> mister_roboto, yea, I had a special compiler provide by my professor
[11:16] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: they have debs for kubuntu.....
[11:16] <farous> dragonfyre13: you need to register on irc
[11:16] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: a C++ runtime environment?  you mean like an ide?  there is no runtime environment as the resulting program is a native executable
[11:16] <farous> !register > dragonfyre13
[11:16] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: They'll work. Same system]
[11:16] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: k :)
[11:16] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: so all debs wil work on ubuntu?
[11:16] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: no matter what it is?
[11:16] <dragonfyre13> ah. Thanks farous.
[11:16] <oranged> yo
[11:16] <jmichaelx> i am getting a fatal missing module error '/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko' .... is there any way i can correct this?
[11:16] <farous> :)
[11:16] <unfun> Can someone help me with a problem?
[11:16] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: Basically... except if they are compiled for a different architecture
[11:17] <oranged> is anyone having seg fault issues with moz-thunderbird after that upgrade?
[11:17] <yuheng108> mister_roboto, there's not iostream is /usr/lib or /usr/included
[11:17] <farous> jmichaelx: did you install ndiswrapper-util package am not sure of the package name so search for ndiswrapper using apt or synaptic
[11:17] <jmichaelx> farous: yes, that is installed.... this is a kernel module
[11:17] <ubuntu__> evenin everyone
[11:18] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: /usr/include/c++/4.0.3/iostream
[11:18] <thundr> I think I'm missing something small with it but I don't know where to start.  I think I'm in the same place as jmichaelx
[11:18] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: Also, some debs that aren't ubuntu specific don't add the proper menu entries. You just ahev to add them manually
[11:18] <farous> jmichaelx: i have broadcom on my other notebook the only way for it to work is using the new kernel 2.6.17
[11:18] <thundr> jmichaelx: it's ndiswrapper-utils
[11:19] <jmichaelx> thundr: i am trying to get a broadcom wireless card to work, but things are seriously messed up now
[11:19] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: yes, i know how to do that. Thanks for the help. Im going to reformat now as ubuntu is broken... thanks.
[11:19] <rabeldable> i'm off to install daper... back in a few hours!
[11:19] <smokeyd> hey all. Does anybody have an idea where I could get updates for the clamav program files in ubuntu? Freshclam updates the virus definitions, but not the program itself. And it does tell me to update it. Is there some sort of repository specifically for it (like the debian volatile repository for instance)?
[11:19] <farous> jmichaelx: i gave up on ndiswrapper and dapper long time ago
[11:19] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: Before you do that, consider moving /home to a new partition
[11:19] <dragonfyre13> bye bye. thanks farous.
[11:19] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: why
[11:19] <farous> dj_baggio: your welc
[11:19] <thundr> jmichaelx: oh, I thought it was the linksys card that you were working with.  The broadcom card I assume isn't usb? (I don't know if that makes a difference)
[11:20] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: You can then keep all your personal documents and settings upon reformat
[11:20] <dj_baggio> farous: what my? :)
[11:20] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: dont really have any yet... i installed this ubuntu to test things and now i know DONT installed realtek linux drivers alsa works fine lol
[11:20] <farous> dj_baggio: wrong messag stupid autocompletion :)
[11:20] <jmichaelx> farous: i had this card working under a previous dapper installation... it worked great, but i got the linux equivilant of BSOD about a week ago, and have never been able to get wireless going since i reinstalled
[11:20] <joselecaros> Why i can't found net-snmp on repositories? (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/net-snmp)
[11:20] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: Then, it's a non-issue
[11:20] <jmichaelx> thundr: no, this card is internel
[11:21] <jmichaelx> internal*
[11:21] <dj_baggio> farous: ok :)
[11:21] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: If you know how, DO consider making a seperate /home on re-installation
[11:21] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: i dont understand
[11:21] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: Then, it's okay. It's not essential
[11:21] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: try this     #include <iostream>    //line 1
[11:22] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: how would that benifit me?
[11:22] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: int main() { std::cout << "hello world" << std::endl; }   //line 2
[11:22] <jmichaelx> farous: would there be a way for me to upgrade to 2.6.17 without winding up with an incredibly unstable OS?
[11:22] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: then "g++ -o myprog myprog.cc"
[11:22] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: It's helped me a lot. Every time I have to wipe the os and reinstall, noting goes missing. Even game saves
[11:22] <farous> jmichaelx: frankly i do not know
[11:22] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: I switched from Mandriva to Ubuntu that way...
[11:23] <cavediver> Hi. Is there some way to se3t a blank password for the keyring? So I won't get question about a pass all the time? I won't store any sensitive pw anyway,
[11:23] <cavediver> ?
[11:23] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: What do you use for games.. cedega?
[11:23] <FusionXN1> Guild wars wont work... it says my 7900GT isn't supported?!
[11:23] <jmichaelx> farous: i am under the impression that my wireless will work fine under edgy final, but this is getting really frustrating
[11:23] <Nekow42> FusionXN1: Well, I play a lot of nethack, some neverball, some cubeengine
[11:23] <zazeem> hi, i need help with mounting my partitions in ubuntu dapper.  I have a 40 gb hard drive vut the partition ubuntu is on is only showingup as 17 gb, i only have 7 gigs free meaning 18 of it is notbeing used.  How can i add this to ubuntu so i can store files on it? i am using 1 hard drive only and ubuntu is the only thing on it.
[11:24] <ptley> hello.  I have ubuntu all working except openGL.  Seems that xorg 7.0 busticated my driver.  My question is what video cards are best supported.  I would like to get one for under $100.
[11:24] <Adam_G> hi all. I just realized that I've mounted an external HD with NTFS loaded, but I've been accessing it just fine, doing lots of read/write. Can I lose data if I mount it with windows again?
[11:24] <Nekow42> ptley: Anything from nvidia
[11:24] <farous> jmichaelx: currently i am dual booting debian and ubuntu. The card works great on Debian
[11:24] <zazeem> ptley: geforce fx6600 only like 95$ on newegg.com
[11:24] <FusionXN1> Nekow42: thanks bbl
[11:24] <jmichaelx> farous: is your debian using 2.6.17?
[11:24] <minerale> how can I tell what my own uid is ?
[11:24] <farous> jmichaelx: i just do not have the time to make it working on ubuntu too
[11:25] <farous> jmichaelx: yap
[11:25] <Nekow42> ptley: Go to newegg, sort nvidia only, and sort under $100
[11:25] <mister_roboto> minerale: "id"
[11:25] <zazeem> hi, i need help with mounting my partitions in ubuntu dapper.  I have a 40 gb hard drive vut the partition ubuntu is on is only showingup as 17 gb, i only have 7 gigs free meaning 18 of it is notbeing used.  How can i add this to ubuntu so i can store files on it? i am using 1 hard drive only and ubuntu is the only thing on it.
[11:25] <nictuku> What package provides FreeType support in php? I could not find that
[11:25] <ptley> cool, I have been having to dual boot to use openGL.  fx6600 sounds good.
[11:25] <joselecaros> hi guys
[11:25] <jmichaelx> farous: you have any idea about my fatal error... missing a module?
[11:26] <farous> jmichaelx: it has to been one of the ndiswrapper packages
[11:26] <farous> jmichaelx: give me a min to check
[11:26] <jmichaelx> farous: hmmm
[11:26] <jmichaelx> ok
[11:26] <thundr> I'm still stuck with tryng to install ndiswrapper as well
[11:26] <nautilux> Hi
[11:26] <Nekow42> ptley: Pick your price at the top: http://tinyurl.com/pcsvd
[11:26] <ADrop> hi, i been search for a good ebook maker for Xubuntu but can't find any that seem to be simple and good (getting more hits on ppl making ebooks lol) so i wonder if anyone here have a tip for a good app.
[11:26] <zazeem> hi, i need help with mounting my partitions in ubuntu dapper.  I have a 40 gb hard drive vut the partition ubuntu is on is only showingup as 17 gb, i only have 7 gigs free meaning 18 of it is notbeing used.  How can i add this to ubuntu so i can store files on it? i am using 1 hard drive only and ubuntu is the only thing on it.
[11:27] <farous> jmichaelx: it is not installed with the standard kernel
[11:27] <nautilux> I have problems installing LimeWire i finish the install and i have it in Aplications - internet - LimeWire but i cant run the program :S
[11:27] <jmichaelx> farous: interesting
[11:27] <nautilux> and my english sux :P
[11:27] <farous> jmichaelx: did you try ndiswrapper-util package
[11:27] <Nekow42> nautilux: Do you have Java installed?
[11:27] <nautilux> yes
[11:27] <jmichaelx> farous: it is installed
[11:27] <gatekeeper> zazeem: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[11:28] <nautilux> i click it but he dont open any window or othing..
[11:28] <Nekow42> nautilux: Can I suggest you use Frostwire instead?
[11:28] <farous> jmichaelx: dpkg -L ndiswrapper-util will tell what files are installed
[11:28] <mateus> my tvtime is red, cant see nothing
[11:28] <jmichaelx> util or utils?
[11:28] <nautilux> FrostWire?
[11:28] <farous> jmichaelx: dpkg -L ndiswrapper-utils will tell what files are installed
[11:28] <stpere> hello, I'm trying to access a smb shared folder (hosted on winxp Dapper)... how can I force Dapper to ask me my credentials.. not sure if that makes sense
[11:28] <Nekow42> nautilux: It's a code-for of Limewire witout the filtering, sposered results, or ads
[11:28] <mateus> my tvtime is red, cant see nothing what i do?
[11:29] <stpere> hmm hosted on winxp, remove the dapper :-)
[11:29] <rod> does someone know a 3270 emulator (not x3270) ?
[11:29] <Nekow42> *code-fork
[11:29] <ptley> ADrop: what format of ebook?  also, have you tried LyX?
[11:29] <nautilux> uh ok
[11:29] <Nekow42> nautilux: http://www.frostwire.com/
[11:29] <farous> jmichaelx: there is ndiswrapper-source this will give you the modules you want
[11:29] <jmichaelx> farous: ndiswrapper-utils is there
[11:29] <Nekow42> nautilux: It's exactly the same as Limewire, except blue
[11:29] <farous> jmichaelx: do you know how to use module-assistant
[11:29] <nautilux> yes
[11:29] <nautilux> thank you
[11:30] <nautilux> Nekow you use wine?
[11:30] <Nekow42> nautilux: Yes.
[11:30] <jmichaelx> farous: never heard of it
[11:30] <ADrop> ptley, pdf so everyone can read it and share the ebooks.. mm nope havent tryed that LyX, will check that one out have ye tryed it and if so did ye like it?
[11:30] <nautilux> i have one problem
[11:30] <jmichaelx> farous: i am not sure  that ndiswrapper-source is available in dapper
[11:30] <farous> jmichaelx: did you look at the help page from ubotu or on the wiki
[11:30] <farous> jmichaelx: i just listed it i change rooted to dapper
[11:31] <Seveas> !info ndiswrapper-source dapper
[11:31] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-source: Source for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 133 kB, installed size 184 kB
[11:31] <nautilux> I get install with the synaptic wine... but when i run a exe for install a game in sudo wine /media/cdrom0/setup.exe  shows this error To use WINEPS you need to install some AFM files
[11:31] <yuheng108> mister_roboto, thanks
[11:31] <ptley> ADrop: LyX is good for scientific stuff like formulas and has real tight structure.  What type of book are you trying to write?
[11:31] <Nekow42> nautilux: I used winetools to set everything up for Wine. Use at your own risk
[11:32] <nautilux> where can i get it?
[11:32] <nautilux> the wine tools
[11:32] <yuheng108> mister_roboto, what about the #include<iostream>? I don't need that?
[11:32] <timmy2> Hello, I'm, trying to intall ubuntu, however in the middle of loading it loading the instalstion from the cd it says that there is an error and I should check the intergrity of the cd, when I do that it says it's valid...
[11:32] <Nekow42> nautilux: Also, keep in mind that DirectX support in Wine is very poor right now, so unless you heard somewhere that the game runs, assume it doesn't
[11:32] <zazeem> gatekeeper: the partition i need to mount is not in fstab
[11:32] <ptley> wine is so finnicky, I have three different builds of it right now.
[11:32] <wheels3572> can anyone tell me how to get embedded systems to stop using port 21?
[11:32] <zazeem> gatekeeper: how do i add it im a nooby i dont want to mess stuff up that guide is confusing
[11:33] <jmichaelx> farous: i have to reboot this stupid thing, ill brb
[11:33] <Nekow42> nautilux: To play most games, you need Cedega... Which costs $5 a month
[11:33] <zazeem> gatekeeper: hdc1 is what i need to mount which isnt in fstab
[11:33] <farous> jmichaelx: i would recommend you look up help.ubuntu.com or the page ubotu list for ndiswrapper. I can tell you how to install ndiswrapper-source for the kernel modules but i never tried this specific package myself
[11:33] <farous> ok
[11:33] <ADrop> ptley, sounds good then.. well for a starter it will be a small newspaper, like the old school fanzine just a page or so for a starter.
[11:33] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: I had that as the first line i sent you.   I sent 2 lines
[11:34] <Nekow42> nautilux: However, if you want Cedega, they let you pay the minimum ($15), then cancel your membership, and keep the software for free forever more
[11:34] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: #include <iostream>
[11:34] <nautilux> :o
[11:34] <mateus> my tvtime is red, cant see nothing what i do?
[11:34] <mister_roboto> yuheng108: int main() { std::cout << "hello world" << std::endl; }
[11:34] <nautilux> Nekow again the same problem!!
[11:34] <deltaremc> Hi. I need help calibrating a tablet monitor & pen using ubuntu.
[11:34] <nautilux> FrostWire dont open!
[11:34] <ptley> ADrop: you might want something more graphically oriented.  I've used Scribus and the OpenOffice Draw to do short pdfs before.
[11:34] <yuheng108> mister_roboto, okok, thanks
[11:34] <nautilux> in Aplication -Internet -FrostWire
[11:34] <gatekeeper> zazeem: if that is what it is called
[11:34] <nautilux> dont open the aplication
[11:34] <nautilux> i dont know why :(
[11:34] <Nekow42> nautilux: Can you try starting it in a terminal and telling me the error messages?
[11:34] <zazeem> gatekeeper: it is called hdc1
[11:35] <timmy2> I'm trying to intall ubuntu, however in the middle of loading it loading the instalstion from the cd it says that there is an error and I should check the intergrity of the cd, when I do that it says it's valid...
[11:35] <nautilux> what code i have to put in terminal to start it?
[11:35] <Nekow42> nautilux: just type frostwire
[11:35] <nautilux> i see
[11:35] <zazeem> gatekeeper: i found out by doing sudo fdisk -l
[11:35] <ADrop> ptley, mm i have been thinking of using Openoffice draw too :)
[11:35] <jmichaelx> farous: as it turns out, ndiswrapper-source is already installed here
[11:36] <gatekeeper> zazeem: ok :-)
[11:36] <ADrop> ptley, well thanks for the tip about LyX will check that one out..
[11:36] <zazeem> gatekeeper: how do i mount it?
[11:36] <wheels3572> Can anyone help me with embedded systems please?
[11:36] <farous> jmichaelx: try this command sudo modprobe -l |grep ndiswra
[11:36] <zazeem> gatekeeper: how do i mount it? or add it to fstab
[11:36] <lecaros> I can't find net-snmp package on repositories... i have my sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19207
[11:36] <nautilux> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE avai
[11:36] <GanJah\> i'm trying to install  apache2-mpm-worker for 2.0.54
[11:36] <GanJah\> dpkg: regarding apache2-mpm-prefork_2.0.54-5ubuntu4.1_i386.deb containing apache2-mpm-prefork:
[11:36] <GanJah\>  apache2-mpm-prefork conflicts with apache2-mpm-worker
[11:36] <GanJah\>   apache2-mpm-worker (version 2.0.54-5ubuntu2) is installed.
[11:36] <nautilux> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[11:36] <ptley> ADrop: you can use a combination of scribus and draw, scribus works with SVG, EPS, and PDF.  There is a channel too (#scribus)
[11:37] <nautilux> so i go to synaptic
[11:37] <nautilux> search for JRE
[11:37] <Nekow42> nautilux: yes, get java
[11:37] <GanJah\> somebody help me :)?
[11:37] <nautilux> i have it
[11:37] <jmichaelx> farous: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[11:37] <nautilux> in synaptic says that i have it installed
[11:37] <nautilux> :S
[11:37] <zazeem> gatekeeper: ??
[11:37] <Nekow42> is it in your $PATH
[11:37] <farous> jmichaelx: so you do have the module
[11:37] <Imexius> Hmm, why does totem-xine keep complaigning about not being able to play an avi file with teh video codec iso-mpeg4/opendivx
[11:37] <nautilux> and the mozzilla plugins java works too..
[11:37] <ADrop> ptley, wow thanks alot m8.
[11:37] <zazeem> anyone know how to add an existing partiotion to fstab?
[11:38] <jmichaelx> farous: that was the result i got from the command you gave me
[11:38] <Nekow42> NautiluX: Sun Java?
[11:38] <bbrazil> zazeem: just add the line in the same format
[11:38] <NautiluX> yes
[11:38] <bensr20det> Hello. Anybody know of a file shredder program that works well with ubuntu?
[11:38] <gatekeeper> zazeem: you will need to create a mount point for it somewhere, basically an emtpy directory, then put a line in your fstab telling it where to mount it, what it's file system etc
[11:38] <farous> jmichaelx: this mean that this is the location of the ndiswrapper module
[11:38] <NautiluX> i have sun java installed
[11:38] <NautiluX> i dont know what happen :(
[11:38] <farous> jmichaelx: so you already have the module installed
[11:38] <ptley> ADrop: no problem, I have been trying to publish on lulu using those programs so I am interested.
[11:38] <farous> jmichaelx: check if it is loaded lsmod |grep ndiswrapper
[11:38] <zazeem> gatekeeper: can u guide me through it?
[11:39] <jmichaelx> farous: i really have no idea. like i said, i get a fatal error concerning that module
[11:39] <Nekow42> NautiluX: Try removing Sun Java, then (I hate to reccomend this), use EasyUbuntu to install java....
[11:39] <gatekeeper> zazeem: how have you formatted it?
[11:39] <farous> jmichaelx: ok take it one step at a time check if it is loaded
[11:39] <farous> jmichaelx: lsmod |grep ndiswrapper
[11:39] <TARZEAU> there's a game running at http://bub-n-bros.sf.net JOIN NOW!
[11:39] <jmichaelx> farous: i got no response from that command
[11:39] <ADrop> ptley, aah lulu, i was there looking at that last night.. what is your opinion on that..did ye like it?
[11:39] <farous> jmichaelx: ok it is not loaded
[11:40] <farous> jmichaelx: try to load it manually
[11:40] <farous> jmichaelx: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:40] <jmichaelx> farous: how do i do that?
[11:40] <jmichaelx> farous: how do i do that?
[11:40] <bensr20det> Where can I find a file shredder program form Ubuntu?
[11:40] <jmichaelx> oops sorry
[11:40] <zazeem> gatekeeper: i formatted the whole thing and was going to put windows on one half, linux on the other but instead i just left the win part 18gb incase i dont want win but it wont show up in ubuntu, it is dev/hdc1 in fdisk -l
[11:40] <zazeem> gatekeeper: so it should be blank
[11:40] <Nekow42> NautiluX: i gtg, but the other nice people in IRC will help you. In the meantime, check out http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[11:40] <jmichaelx> farous: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory
[11:41] <ptley> ADrop: I think they charge too much for binding, but it is easy to publish in pdf with them.
[11:41] <farous> jmichaelx: give me a min
[11:41] <jmichaelx> farous: ok
[11:41] <gatekeeper> zazeem: you are going to use this partition for windows or linux files?
[11:41] <NautiluX> unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[11:41] <NautiluX> :!"
[11:41] <ADrop> ptley: mm i guess that is what keeping them running lol
[11:41] <zazeem> gatekeeper: i want to use it for linux
[11:42] <lhds> how to delete a directory?
[11:42] <zazeem> gatekeeper: but i cant see it or get into it im a nub
[11:42] <zazeem> gatekeeper: i know some stuff but not a lot
[11:42] <lhds> how to delete a dir containing files and subfolders?
[11:42] <Imexius> rm -r
[11:42] <ryantrip> im installing xubuntu, and i need to know which erase type to choose. theres erase disk, and erase disk and use LVM. no one answered in xubuntu so im asking here.
[11:42] <farous> jmichaelx: did you use sudo modprobe
[11:43] <jmichaelx> farous: yes
[11:43] <gatekeeper> zazeem: ok well it that case it probable needs to be formated using the ext3 file system, can you put your fstab in pastebin please
[11:43] <deltaremc> Hi. I need help calibrating a tablet monitor & pen using ubuntu.
[11:43] <farous> jmichaelx: try ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[11:43] <zazeem> gatekeeper: yes
[11:43] <lhds> sudo rm -d -- apply rm: cannot remove `apply': Is a directory how to delete a dir containing files and subfolders?
[11:44] <tuxtux> ciao
[11:44] <ryantrip> whats the difference betweeen erasing the disk and erasing it and using LVM
[11:44] <gatekeeper> zazeem: give me the pastebin url please when your done
[11:44] <ardchoille> lhds: rm -r to delete a dir with files in it
[11:44] <ptley> Adrop: have you gotten into SVG for publishing at all?
[11:44] <jmichaelx> farous: ls: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko: No such file or directory
[11:44] <zazeem> gatekeeper: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19208
[11:44] <farous> lhds: why not use nautilus the file browser
[11:45] <farous> jmichaelx: can you use the browser to go there and see if the file exist
[11:45] <farous> jmichaelx: for the modprobe command showed that it does
[11:45] <jmichaelx> farous: yes, brb
[11:45] <bytefu> my "extract here" doesn't work in gnome, it just makes a folder called blalbalh_FILES
[11:45] <bytefu> isntead of extracting stuff :?
[11:45] <zazeem> gatekeeper: heres my fdisk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19209
[11:45] <lhds> what are these :  /usr/src$ ls  linux-headers-2.6.15-26  linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[11:45] <jmichaelx> farous: no, modprob said that it doesn't
[11:46] <ADrop> ptley, nope im pretty newbie on this..well have had focs that i have converted from a office sort app and so to pdf.. but nothing more than that
[11:46] <farous> jmichaelx: sudo modprobe -l |grep ndiswrapper gave you this exact location
[11:46] <lhds> what are these :  /usr/src$ ls  linux-headers-2.6.15-26  linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[11:47] <ptley> ADrop: I think SVG will eventually take off.  firefox supports it and nokia cell phones support small svg.
[11:47] <farous> lhds: those are two packages that you installed. try to be familiar with the linux file structure try to google it
[11:47] <lhds> farous why 2 ?
[11:48] <farous> lhds: so you won't remove a dir that might make your sys unstable
[11:48] <lhds> the content is very simila
[11:48] <lhds> r
[11:48] <jmichaelx> farous: i looked, and /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper exists, but it is empty
[11:48] <ADrop> ptley, aye.. hope this will get more devices and apps to support it too, do ye have a link to some cutting edge info about SVG at hand right now?
[11:49] <farous> jmichaelx: let me check on my pc
[11:49] <jmichaelx> ok
[11:49] <windmill> hello, Iwant to be able to tile windows on a workspace so I can see them all at once, is there a way to do that?
[11:49] <cruddpuppet> not that i've seen
[11:49] <windmill> oh
[11:49] <cruddpuppet> i need help dual booting
[11:49] <lhds> farous : in have /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/build/drivers/ instead of /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/ how to remove that build?
[11:49] <cruddpuppet> anyone know how i can do this
[11:49] <windmill> that sucks a abit
[11:49] <NautiluX> HelP ME WITH WINEEEEEEEEEEE!
[11:49] <cruddpuppet> me too
[11:50] <cruddpuppet> either Wine or dual booting
[11:50] <FurryNemesis> NautiluX, , what's up?
[11:50] <cruddpuppet> don't use wine
[11:50] <labreche> hi, anyone know how to set up an evolution uc16 ?
[11:50] <cruddpuppet> use vmplayer/vmware
[11:50] <NautiluX> i cant install a game from cdr0m
[11:50] <cruddpuppet> use vmplayer/vmware
[11:50] <cruddpuppet> no patches
[11:50] <timmy2> Hello, I'm am trying to install Ubuntu, however when I get to 12% on the loading addition contents screen i recive and error message that states there was a problem load the installer components from cd. It then tells me to check the integridy of cd. I do and recive a message stating intrgriidy test was a suscess, cd is vailid, then it cuts to a blue screen forcing me to manualy restart
[11:50] <cruddpuppet> wine needs patches for many things
[11:50] <cruddpuppet> wine needs patches for many things'
[11:50] <FurryNemesis> NautiluX, have you got the right path? CaPiTAl letters make a difference
[11:50] <farous> jmichaelx: i think you need to reinstall the linux-image-2.6.15-26.686 package something removed the file from your harddisk
[11:50] <NautiluX> :S
[11:50] <farous> jmichaelx: are you using any script for that
[11:50] <NautiluX> see my log error
[11:51] <lhds> farouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus
[11:51] <lhds> farous : in have /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/build/drivers/ instead of /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/ how to remove that build?
[11:51] <lhds> please man
[11:51] <NautiluX> fixme:winspool:AddPrinterW DocumentPropertiesW on printer 'L"PIXMA-iP1000-Ver.2.50"' fails
[11:51] <farous> lhds: give me a min
[11:51] <NautiluX> To use WINEPS you need to install some AFM files.
[11:51] <NautiluX> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:51] <NautiluX> err:wgl:process_attach Could not create default context.
[11:51] <NautiluX> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:51] <NautiluX> wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000000 at address 0x7f4e64ff (thread 0009), starting debugger...
[11:51] <NautiluX> fixme:ntdll:RtlNtStatusToDosErrorNoTeb no mapping for c0000119
[11:51] <zazeem> gatekeeper: any ideas?
[11:51] <lhds> i am here all night if you promess to answer
[11:51] <Bonez56> !pastebin
[11:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:51] <farous> lhds: i do not know how you made that build so am not sure how to remove it
[11:52] <FurryNemesis> NautiluX, have you got video card drivers installed?
[11:52] <drbreen> lhds: promess ? primose ?
[11:52] <jmichaelx> farous: not that i know of, and i reinstalled linux-image-2.6.15-26.686 last night and it did not help
[11:52] <NautiluX> yes
[11:52] <drbreen> phds: promise !
[11:52] <NautiluX> FurryNemesis: Yes
[11:52] <farous> lhds: surely you compiled a kernel or some modules frankly i do not know
[11:52] <lhds> farous because you see? i am trying to make a kernel compile now hoping it will resolve
[11:52] <ptley> ADrop: I used to have a link to a really good website that was all in SVG... but I can't find it.  svg.org must have it somewhere
[11:53] <FurryNemesis> NautiluX, can you run winecfg?
[11:53] <farous> lhds: did not recompile kernel on ubuntu only on debian so do not kow if there a diff. perhaps another one can help
[11:53] <lhds> you think it will solve the thing? or it will screw everything?
[11:53] <Lukas2> I tried live Ubuntu 6.06 on my Intel Pentuum 667Mhz 192MB of RAM, 48x CDROM and it is very very slow. Resolution is 640x480. Firefox starts 10min. Computer continually somethings work.
[11:53] <timmy2> I'm am trying to install Ubuntu, however when I get to 12% on the loading addition contents screen i recive and error message that states there was a problem load the installer components from cd. It then tells me to check the integridy of cd. I do and recive a message stating intrgriidy test was a suscess, cd is vailid, then it cuts to a blue screen forcing me to manualy restart
[11:53] <farous> jmichaelx: do you have another image installed
[11:53] <NautiluX> Says the same problem
[11:53] <bbrazil> Lukas2: yeah, the livecd is slow
[11:53] <NautiluX> Shows the same problem
[11:53] <jmichaelx> farous: i have 386 installed
[11:53] <lhds> ANYONE JUST ANYONE HELP i have /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/build/drivers/ instead of /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/ how to remove that build?
[11:53] <bbrazil> Lukas2: especially on that spec
[11:54] <Lukas2> My mouse is cutting.
[11:54] <ADrop> ptley, thanks again..
[11:54] <farous> jmichaelx: so purge the linux-image that have the problem
[11:54] <amarokker> it is...?
[11:54] <rabeldable> dapper will not install on my system, X will not start
[11:54] <amarokker> whats it cutting?
[11:54] <farous> jmichaelx: first login from the 386 image
[11:54] <jmichaelx> farous: how?
[11:54] <bbrazil> Lukas2: I suggest going for xubuntu
[11:54] <Lukas2> This is extrem slow.
[11:54] <bbrazil> Lukas2: when you install it'll be faster. It has to decompress stuff on the fly
[11:54] <jmichaelx> farous: ok, brb, rebooting
[11:54] <gatekeeper> zazeem: you need to create a line that looks something like this in your fstab  /dev/hdc1       /mnt/newpartition               ext3    defaults,rw 0       1  where /mnt/newpartition is the mount point. I have got to go very shortly, so you are going to need one of the others to help you get this right so it mount ok
[11:54] <farous> jmichaelx: login from the 386 image then purge the 686 image and install it again
[11:54] <rabeldable> where do I find more information about the F6 options and how to specify resolution sizes, the installer is picking 1400x900 and the xorg.conf is not loading the right modules
[11:54] <farous> jmichaelx: either using apt or synaptic
[11:55] <FurryNemesis> NautiluX, all I can suggest is purging the install and then compiling from scratch
[11:55] <zazeem> gatekeeper: thanks <3
[11:55] <jmichaelx> farous: i'll be back, i do not know how to purge it
[11:55] <farous> jmichaelx: i usually use aptitude so it is sudp aptitude purge linux-image-
[11:55] <FurryNemesis> NautiluX, but there's bound to be another solution. Can anyone else help?
[11:55] <jmichaelx> farous: brb
[11:55] <farous> ok
[11:55] <zazeem> can anyone here help me mount my partition in fstab
[11:55] <gatekeeper> zazeem: first job is to get that partition formatted as ext3 good luck :-)
[11:56] <zazeem> gatekeeper:
[11:56] <zazeem> gatekeeper: how?
[11:56] <lhds> gatekpr prvt
[11:56] <angel> Hey... Say I'm new to Linux... and I want to install avast... but I can't seem to get it right...
[11:56] <angel> Any suggestions?
[11:56] <Lukas2> Why I resolution 640x480? In Windows XP I have 1024x768 and going quit fast.
[11:56] <DrBashir2> avast, as in the virus scanner?
[11:56] <timmy2> I'm am trying to install Ubuntu, however when I get to 12% on the loading addition contents screen i recive and error message that states there was a problem load the installer components from cd. It then tells me to check the integridy of cd. I do and recive a message stating intrgriidy test was a suscess, cd is vailid, then it cuts to a blue screen forcing me to manualy restart
[11:56] <gatekeeper> !qtparted
[11:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about qtparted - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:56] <angel> yep the virus scanner...
[11:57] <FurryNemesis> timmy2, stats of your comp?
[11:57] <NautiluX> i install wine from Synaptic
[11:57] <DrBashir2> Im not sure if a virus scanner would be neccesary on linux
[11:57] <timmy2> FurryNemesisL geforce 6800, gig of ram, 180 gig hd
[11:57] <gatekeeper> zazeem: you need to use partitioning software, like fdisk, or GParted or qtparted
[11:57] <drbreen> drbashir2: i am sure it is if you have a file server and win clients can connects to it ?
[11:58] <FurryNemesis> NautiluX, the most recent source for wine is probably on the wine official site
[11:58] <angel> Well maybe not... but I could use some practice in installing and stuff :P
[11:58] <welp[server] > anyone know why the cd would get stuck when loading the drivers for the hardware?
[11:58] <ptley> I have a virus scanner installed so I can check other people's drives
[11:58] <timmy2> FurryNemesisL all drivers up to date
[11:58] <FurryNemesis> hmm
[11:58] <gatekeeper> !format
[11:58] <Wodger> virus checkers are fairly pointless on desktops that are not windows
[11:58] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[11:58] <FurryNemesis> ok
[11:58] <DrBashir2> drbeen: Linux will not be affected
[11:58] <FurryNemesis> timmy2, this is the livecd?
[11:58] <DrBashir2> angel, practise with a text editer first :P
[11:59] <timmy2> FurryNemesisL both
[11:59] <FurryNemesis> damn, the alternate too?
[11:59] <ptley> UltimateBootCD is pretty good for diagnosing people's computers with a linux virus scanner.  You have to get it with "Insert" though, which will boot a minimal linux.
[11:59] <angel> Synaptic can't find it... What am I doing wrong?
[11:59] <timmy2> yes
[11:59] <DrBashir2> angel: really, you dont need a VS
[11:59] <FurryNemesis> timmy2, what does memtest say?
[11:59] <Lukas2> Can I will start fast KDE programs in Xubuntu, when I install kdelibs? My Mum needs kdegames.
[12:00] <terwilliger> Anybody know why networking in Kubuntu 6.06 would die on a Celeron with no eth0, but a wireless ath0 adapter? I guess my question is: is there anything about a wireless connection that's inconsistent with networking? It can browse fine, but rsync and networking won't start. New installation.
[12:00] <timmy2> FurryNemesisL i didnt try that
[12:00] <sproingie> where's the best place to stick xset commands that i want run on X startup?  .xinitrc?
[12:00] <DrBashir2> angel: if there is even such a thing for on linux, it will only be a recource hog
[12:00] <sproingie> er x session startup anyway
[12:00] <FurryNemesis> timmy2, try it, you might just have a memory error that is screwing things up
[12:00] <terwilliger> Uh ... browse= as in the Internet, not the LAN. That's the problem
[12:00] <angel> I also have some problems with the driver for my wifi card...