[05:33] <JebJoya> umm, right, when i boot i get a load of errors about my gnome window manager - i tried to move to compiz using beryl while watching a video in vlc, it crashed so i ctrl-alt-backspaced, crashed out to command prompt, ctrl-alt-del'ed and... well, nothing's working... any suggestions?  using the alternate boot cd perhaps?
[05:33] <ajax4> SuperLag: Barely tried it out but it looks good. I just noticed a "Restricted Drivers Manager" that comes with it that installs my Nvidia drivers automatically.
[05:33] <SuperLag> ajax4: nice
[05:33] <Frog29> presuntoRJ - I have my desktop computer to talk to you (my laptop with ubuntu is next to me)
[05:33] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: ok
[05:34] <ireland> yeah...I've got tutorial I think....
[05:34] <wooden719> !bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:34] <compilerwriter> I am on whatever Konversation is a front end.  mrmakeveli
[05:34] <labanux> Nerdz :if you go to ubuntu website, in download section, see the check box below telling about RAM less than 256.., check this.., then you'll get the alternate cd *i guess..
[05:34] <mbpubuntu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook is wrong about feisty in several respects.  where do i ask about this?
[05:34] <ireland> ...but I'm trying to read partitions with parted...can't get it sorted out
[05:34] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: what does it show if you open a Terminal and type: ip add
[05:34] <SuperLag> ajax4: did it give you the option to upgrade, from the CD? or did you upgrade from synaptic?
[05:34] <draeath> Quick question: does feisty still have the issue with PS/2 keyboards not working after boot? (some jerkoff keeps putting in a patch to help support USB keyboards that breaks PS/2)
[05:34] <lisapc> Pelo, I figured it out!  was easy.  I simply removed grub from 1st HDD, and then "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb" which installs it on my 2nd HDD.  I now dont even need the 1st HDD to load Ubuntu. :)
[05:34] <Nerdz> labanux: I have to chek the box :"Check here if you need the alternate desktop cd suited for computers with less than 256MB of RAM"  Right?
[05:34] <MrMakeveli> compilerwriter: i kind of like how konversation looks
[05:34] <tbodine> The latest beta of Feisty should be going through updates since the release, correct?
[05:34] <ajax4> SuperLag: My next step will be to get XGL and compiz/beryl going...hopefully it will go better than when I tried it under Dapper.
[05:34] <MrMakeveli> is anyone on the gnome exchat?
[05:34] <ajax4> SuperLag: I did a clean install, though there were options to upgrade from CD also.
[05:35] <Frog29> presuntoRJ - a lot
[05:35] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: I have lo (for localhost) eth0 (for wired) wlan0 (wifi) and sit0
[05:35] <mellow_bunny> Nerdz: yes
[05:35] <MrMakeveli> i was on xchat before i upgraded, now it looks all fresh an whathave you
[05:35] <lisapc> Pelo, make a note of what I did for your future refence
[05:35] <Nerdz> Thanks
[05:35] <compilerwriter> konversation is a really nice suite if you are a power user mrmakeveli.
[05:35] <labanux> Nerdz :yes.., but if you're not sure, just go here http://kambing.ui.edu/tuma/Ubuntu/Feisty/ there's alternate cd right there
[05:35] <SuperLag> ajax4: sweet. I got a decent connection to a mirror, and I'm about 25% into the download
[05:35] <JebJoya> umm, right, when i boot i get a load of errors about my gnome window manager - i tried to move to compiz using beryl while watching a video in vlc, it crashed so i ctrl-alt-backspaced, crashed out to command prompt, ctrl-alt-del'ed and... well, nothing's working... any suggestions?  using the alternate boot cd perhaps?
[05:35] <Frog29> presuntoRJ - 3 connection.... 1 loopback, one eth0 as nocarrier broadcast and up, the other eth1 as broadcast and multicast
[05:35] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: each one must have its own IP address to work, wich means, it found the network and its DHCP, and therefore it is working
[05:35] <MrMakeveli> i wish that it would highlight convos in red the way xchat would. now im on the gnome xchat and it just beeps
[05:35] <yeniklasor> hi, if I upgrade all my programs will remove? is it a format?
[05:36] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: no IP... no good
[05:36] <Flannel> yeniklasor: no
[05:36] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: hum... let me think
[05:36] <ajax4> SuperLag: Are you using bittorrent?
[05:36] <Vaske_Car> Any fast FTP to download 7.04?
[05:36] <xechostor> is there an install dvd available for fiest? cant find one, only the cd
[05:36] <SuperLag> ajax4: no, just a straight wget from a mirror
[05:36] <MrMakeveli> im going to try something out "MrMakeveli"
[05:36] <SuperLag> ajax4: IndianaU
[05:36] <MrMakeveli> hmm i dont think that worked
[05:36] <Siph0n> does the server edition not come with a gui already installed?
[05:36] <yeniklasor> Frannel : is it like a core upgrade?
[05:36] <Frog29> presuntoRJ - i know eth1 is my wireless since it has an extra bar at the bottom saying signal strenth( its empty)
[05:36] <labanux> RAOF : you're HDA Intel soundcard works doesn't it? but, what kind of upgrade method do you use? fresh install or upgrade with apt?
[05:36] <mellow_bunny> Siph0n: no
[05:36] <wastrel> Siph0n:  no
[05:36] <MrMakeveli> will someone use "MrMakeveli" in a sentence to see if it highlights?
[05:36] <wastrel> MrMakeveli:  no
[05:37] <JebJoya> MrMakeveli: heh
[05:37] <MrMakeveli> wastrel: hmm didnt work
[05:37] <mellow_bunny> haha
[05:37] <compilerwriter> mrmakeveli yes
[05:37] <Flannel> yeniklasor: it'll upgrade everything
[05:37] <ap1> I got sudo garbled. I tried to apt-get remove/install it (recovery boot) but accidentally deleted a couple of dependent packages. I don't see anything in the logs. Does apt log somewhere a list of removed pkgs so I can re-install them?
[05:37] <wooden719> frog29, what's your wireless card type? broadcom? integrated?
[05:37] <Flannel> ap1: dpkg keeps logs
[05:37] <labanux> Vaske_Car : select mirror closest to your home.. :)
[05:37] <lisapc> Pelo, Grub and everything is on my 2nd external HDD now
[05:37] <roller> xechostor: no dvd yet
[05:37] <Frog29> wooden719 integrated on a ompaq laptop
[05:37] <yeniklasor> my files and my installed 3 rd programs won't delete yeah?
[05:37] <jooby> hey weird problem here - can't get nm-manager applet to display
[05:37] <Flannel> ap1: but, just reinstallling sudo should reinstall the dependencies
[05:37] <Frog29> wooden719 by broadcom
[05:37] <crimsun> labanux: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[05:37] <labanux> !alsa
[05:37] <xechostor> roller : thanks :)
[05:37] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:38] <Pelo> lisapc,   good for you,  I am in awe of your 1337ness
[05:38] <Frog29> wooden719 ubuntu recognizes the card and something that seems to be just like it
[05:38] <RAOF> labanux: My card works, yes.  But I've been running Feisty since before Christmas.  The upgrade method shouldn't affect it, though.
[05:38] <Nerdz> What's the difference between live CD and alternate?
[05:38] <wooden719> frog29, i'm seeing the same thing you're seeing
[05:38] <compilerwriter> vaske_car then cross yourself, light a cigar and drink some congac this might take a while.
[05:38] <lisapc> Pelo, and I am in awe of your ignorance :)
[05:38] <ajax4> SuperLag: Restarting my system now....will soon find out if the Nvidia drivers installed correctly.
[05:38] <roller> Nerds: the alternate installs in text mode
[05:38] <ceil420> "Opera for *nix sucks."
[05:38] <Pelo> what a  *******
[05:38] <ceil420> "No one should be forced to use anything that uses Qt."
[05:38] <yeniklasor> Flannel : my files and my installed 3 rd programs won't delete yeah?
[05:38] <ceil420> what's Qt and why is it bad?
[05:38] <labanux> crimsun : cannot open `/proc/asound/oss/sndstat' for reading: No such file or directory
[05:38] <SuperLag> ajax4: excellent
[05:38] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29:  what do you get when on the Terminal you borwse your hardware information on the System>Preferences>Hardware Information
[05:38] <Flannel> Nerdz: Alternate CD is textmode installer only (no liveCD), contains addiional install options (gui-less, OEM, etc), and has a package repository on it with additional packages
[05:38] <Nerdz> roller: ok Thanks
[05:39] <Flannel> yeniklasor: correct.  They'll just all be upgraded
[05:39] <yeniklasor> OK thanks
[05:39] <xechostor> one other question. Is audigy sound working properly out of the box, as they say? (integrated audigy SE here on a MSI K9N Diamond Mobo )
[05:39] <seamus7> Even though I chose the Alternate CD Upgrade ... it's still connecting to the network for updates ... which means I'm still experiencing a very slow upgrad process
[05:39] <crimsun> labanux: looks like alsa oss emulation modules aren't loaded.
[05:39] <jooby> anyone know why an applet refuses to display?
[05:39] <eureka> I'm trying to view an image , it's pointing to the right location, and the image was there, however I still got a broken image when viewing, another interesting thing is that I can't see the image through samba, but I can list it using ls. What's wrong?
[05:39] <wastrel> ceil420:  Qt is a graphics toolkit used to create a GUI.  it's not bad, some people dislike it- some people like it. it's an opinion thing.
[05:39] <roller> plus; lets you update from edgy and install in oem
[05:39] <labanux> crimsun: how can i fix this?
[05:39] <crimsun> labanux: please download and use the script linked from http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support , then tell me the URL of the paste.
[05:39] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card
[05:40] <hendaus> Dekkard,  do u know how to creat a torrent file to upload it on a site?
[05:40] <ceil420> wastrel, ah. the person i quoted that from is the hardcore type. slackware and all.
[05:40] <ap1> Flannel, no, reinstalling sudo does not reinstall things that were dependent _on: sudo
[05:40] <labanux> crimsun: wait a minute..
[05:40] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - from research i had done earlier it seems as if the dell thing has the same driver
[05:40] <ceil420> thanks
[05:40] <wastrel> ceil420:  kde uses qt , gnome uses gtk.
[05:40] <Flannel> ap1: Ah.  Gotcha.  Yeah, check dpkg logs.
[05:40] <ceil420> oh, i see
[05:40] <ceil420> Xfce uses gtk too doesn't it?
[05:40] <wastrel> dunno from xfce
[05:41] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29:  same chipsete I guess... not really sure, it appears you are in a nimbo between heaven and hell, I mean, with and without wi fi
[05:41] <Flannel> ap1: but, uh, ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-minimal (and ubuntu-desktop) should (I think?) cover most of them.  If you cant get a list from your logs for whaever reason
[05:41] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: its detected and started but somehow it wont realy network
[05:41] <wooden719> frog29, fwiw mine is dell trumobile 1400
[05:41] <insmod> what does "export INTEL_BATCH"  do? on google they say  export INTEL_BATCH=1 boost performance i tried export INTEL_BATCH=4 and got better reuslts
[05:41] <vexati0n> quick! everybody stop downloading Feisty!
[05:41] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: I was like this on Edgy, but it worked under Feistty
[05:41] <tovella> working with limited internet service - no web browsing.  where can i ftp a feisty x86 desktop iso?
[05:41] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - i think i just need to tell it to start.... if i remember there is some command to tell it to but i triesd it a few weeks ago on 6.10
[05:42] <labanux> crimsun: it tells me to go to the #alsa room.. and see this : http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/scripts/output.txt
[05:42] <Flannel> ap1: ubuntu-minimal is dependant on sudo.  It appears thats the only one
[05:42] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: you could try to locate a similar bug report (if any) on http://launchpad.net regarding wifi with your card chipset
[05:42] <crimsun> labanux: yes, run the script. I helped develop that script.
[05:42] <letronje> to upgrade from edgy to fiesty, do i need to change my sources.list to the default one that edgy came with ?
[05:42] <burepe_> !feisty fawn
[05:42] <ubotu> FEISTY IS OUT! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - Torrent downloads at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ - Metalinks (use with Aria2 or, under Windows, GetRight) at http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/
[05:43] <burepe_> how do you upgrade?
[05:43] <lani> i am trying to install feisty, i get into live cd, but when i try to install it can't seem to load the install application
[05:43] <Flannel> !upgrade | burepe_
[05:43] <ubotu> burepe_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:43] <Pelo> letronje,  I don'Tthink so,  you get a button to tedding you that 7.04 is available in the update manager
[05:43] <baklava-> anyone from .it around?
[05:43] <burepe_> tanks!
[05:43] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - hmmm
[05:44] <bobbob1016> Hi all, I have what I think is a simple question.  If I reinstall Feisty on my PC, and I already have different partitions for my home, and my /, will I lose any of my settings?
[05:44] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: do you know how to?
[05:44] <mellow_bunny> bobbob1016: not if you map corectly
[05:44] <RAOF> bobbob1016: Some, kinda.
[05:44] <letronje> Pelo: yes i do , but it seems the in.archive.ubuntu.com is not responding, so installation is not proceeding firther
[05:44] <eobanb> bobbob1016, if you have different partitions, but only format the partitions that do not contain your home, etc, then you will not lose settings.
[05:44] <RAOF> bobbob1016: As long as you don't format your /home, you won't lose your personal settings.
[05:44] <eobanb> bobbob1016, you must be sure to specify those partitions for your /home, etc, when installing
[05:44] <RAOF> bobbob1016: Anything in /etc/ will be lost, though.
[05:44] <eobanb> just dont overwrite them
[05:44] <mellow_bunny> etc holds system settings
[05:44] <bobbob1016> I wasn't sure about my beryl settings
[05:44] <Pelo> letronje,   servers are very busy atm
[05:44] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - do what?
[05:45] <eobanb> bobbob1016, why are you reinstalling?
[05:45] <bobbob1016> I know not to format my home partition, I just wasn't sure what gets lost
[05:45] <billy> need a quick hint.  "./configure && make && make install" to install tar.gz?
[05:45] <brian|lfs> is everyone having pro0blems using automatix tongiht
[05:45] <brian|lfs> tonight
[05:45] <Flannel> !automatix | brian|lfs
[05:45] <ubotu> brian|lfs: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:45] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - huh if i say ifconfig it only shows eth0 and lo
[05:45] <brian|lfs> Iya and the mirros are slow
[05:45] <Pelo> billy,  sudo make install,  but read the readme / install files in the tr.gz first    there might be an installer
[05:45] <letronje> Pelo: ok thnx, so keeping additional repositories in sources.list wont break the upgrade right?
[05:46] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: you could try to locate a similar bug report at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ searching for a similar bug report some one might have posted (regarding your chipset)
[05:46] <Flannel> brian|lfs: Don't use automatix.  simple as that.  It's nothing *but* problems
[05:46] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - using -a it shows eth1
[05:46] <bobbob1016> eobanb, I had Edgy with Beryl on XGL working fine, and now my XGL session doesn't work, and I tried removing the XGL session, and going AIGLX as someone recommended, and for some reason I can't boot without the ATI drivers installed
[05:46] <brian|lfs> huh lol
[05:46] <zilly6_> anyone know how to make a bootable usb drive?
[05:46] <brian|lfs> I've always used it never had a problem
[05:46] <RAOF> billy: Also, make *sure* that you're not trying to install something that's in the repositories already.
[05:46] <Pelo> letronje,  as far as I know ( and I havewn't upgraded yet) the third party repos get disabled during the upgrade
[05:46] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - k
[05:46] <bobbob1016> eobanb, and my sound doesn't work
[05:46] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: hum... it means it did not start the other
[05:46] <Flannel> !worksforme | brian|lfs
[05:46] <RAOF> brian|lfs: See !worksforme :P
[05:46] <labanux> crimsun: i've ran the script, it returned error like this : cat: /proc/asound/version: No such file or directory, and so on..
[05:46] <ubotu> brian|lfs: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:46] <crimsun> bobbob1016: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[05:46] <albert> i have two questions: i installed the textbased alternate of ubuntu and everytime i install software, which ist available on the cd too, the system asks me to instert the cd. is there a way of activating "download everything"?
[05:46] <letronje> Pelo: cool, thnx once again,bye
[05:46] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - so how would i just tell it to start?
[05:46] <billy> RAOF, I'm sure.
[05:46] <Flannel> albert: Go to your software properties, and uncheck the CD
[05:47] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - i thinkl the problem is it just has never been told to start
[05:47] <albert> the second: do i need du edit my sources.list like in edgy?
[05:47] <crimsun> labanux: ok, now pastebin `lspci -v && lspci -vvn && cat /proc/interrupts`
[05:47] <crimsun> labanux: be sure to tell me the URL of the paste
[05:47] <eobanb> bobbob1016, you cant boot, or you cant start X
[05:47] <billy> Pelo, thanks.  will do.
[05:47] <brian|lfs> I thought you where a bot Ubuntu
[05:47] <RAOF> billy: Ok.  It's just that it's *much, much* easier to use apt instead :)
[05:47] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: locating the bug... there is an Advanced Search item there... use direct key words
[05:47] <Pelo> albert,  open up sources manager and uncheck the cd
[05:47] <brian|lfs> UBOTU i MEAN
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i mean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <Flannel> albert: edit your sources.list to comment out the CD (with #).  Do you mean edit it to upgrade to feisty?  No.
[05:47] <bobbob1016> eobanb, can't start x, I've done reconfigure xserver
[05:47] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: wifi dell connection
[05:47] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: your chipset number
[05:47] <ap1> Is Wiki "RestrictedFormats" the best way to install support for mp3 & such (in Edgy)?
[05:47] <tarelerulz> When I rum movies in Gxine I don't get any sound is the command problem?
[05:47] <labanux> crimsun: oh sorry.., i forget to tell the URL of pastebin.. :D
[05:47] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: !bug
[05:47] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - k, but on the side doing sudo ifconfig eth1 up gives a no such file or directory, but i know it works
[05:47] <Flannel> ap1: yes
[05:48] <burepe>   how do I check my version?
[05:48] <billy> RAOF: yeah, I know.  ** if only **.  :)
[05:48] <Frog29> !bug
[05:48] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:48] <albert> flannel: i mean the "universe/multiverse" thing.
[05:48] <Pelo> ap1,  pretty much
[05:48] <crimsun> tarelerulz: do you get sound elsewhere in Ubuntu?
[05:48] <brian|lfs> SO WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND FOR VIDEO CODECS AND EVERYTHING ubotu
[05:48] <wastrel> burepe:  lsb_release -a
[05:48] <bobbob1016> crimsun, that didn't get the sound working
[05:48] <milage> xvid :p?
[05:48] <Flannel> albert: ah.  You can do it manually, or you can do it through software sources/synaptic, in a pseudo-GUI sort of way
[05:48] <dc> !bot
[05:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:48] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: sudo ifup eth1
[05:48] <Flannel> !codecs | brian|lfs
[05:48] <ubotu> brian|lfs: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:48] <tarelerulz> Yes I get sound with every thing else  but gxine
[05:48] <dc> brian|lfs: !bot
[05:48] <crimsun> bobbob1016: it won't do any magic. I need that info to help you.
[05:48] <dc> brian|lfs | !bot
[05:48] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:48] <dc> !bot | brian|lfs
[05:48] <ubotu> brian|lfs: please see above
[05:48] <bobbob1016> crimsun, yeah, I think it might have
[05:49] <Tarkus> hey guys, im new to linux and im wondering whats the difference between XGL, Compiz, and Beryl. anyone care to explain? thanks
[05:49] <crimsun> bobbob1016: what was the output from that command?
[05:49] <Pelo> g'night folks
[05:49] <bobbob1016> crimsun, yeah, sound is working
[05:49] <albert> flannel: k, is there some guide which parts of the sources.list to edit, to get full software access?
[05:49] <Kickboy> I need some assistance with my 6.10 to 7.04 upgrade. I tried doing the upgrade through the update manager, but it was taking waaay too long. So I stopped it, and downloaded the "Alternate CD" to do it from there (Since BitTorrent is faster, it took only 20 minutes to DL). Well, now because I stopped the first upgrade ALL of my packwages are no longer authenticated, making it completely impossible for me to upgrade.
[05:49] <Kickboy> any ideas?
[05:49] <burepe> wastrel: thanks
[05:49] <Flannel> !components | albert
[05:49] <ubotu> albert: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:49] <bobbob1016> it said oss, then the card I sould use
[05:49] <albert> thank you
[05:49] <DanaG> argh-ness
[05:49] <DanaG> my gnomevfs is broken for ssh.
[05:49] <crimsun> bobbob1016: I need the actual output...
[05:50] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - the first didn't work... the second is running now
[05:50] <insmod> anyone know a fix for usplash on laptops
[05:50] <bobbob1016> crimsun, Mixers:       0: Realtek ALC880
[05:50] <RAOF> insmod: Not without a description of the problem.  Usplash works on *my* laptop
[05:50] <crimsun> bobbob1016: ok.
[05:51] <ap1> How do I highlight a keyword in Gaim/IRC?
[05:51] <bobbob1016> crimsun, totem still doesn't play sound, the sound pref does the beep though
[05:51] <insmod> RAOF: i won't do a full shutdown on some laptops
[05:51] <ap1> Why does loadkeys not find fi-latin1 keymap in console?
[05:51] <insmod> it
[05:51] <labanux> crimsun : this is the output : http://pastebin.ca/449300
[05:51] <tarelerulz> So any one else have gxine not have sound for movies?
[05:51] <DanaG> Another odd thing:
[05:51] <DanaG> XFCE breaks my keyboard.
[05:51] <Tarkus> hey im wondering whats the difference between XGL, Compiz, and Beryl. anyone care to explain? thanks guys.
[05:52] <Flannel> Tarkus: #ubuntu-effects might be the best place to ask
[05:52] <brian|lfs> oh
[05:52] <DanaG> My arrow keys and home-pgup-pgdn-end turn into Japanese Input Method keys.
[05:52] <RAOF> insmod: Ah, so it's probably not actually a usplash bug, then.  Your laptop doesn't shut down properly?
[05:52] <Tarkus> Flannel: k, thanks
[05:52] <[ithaycu] > for some reason occasionally have to reboot before I can rip a DVD
[05:52] <DanaG> Odd: when I shut down, usplash doesn't show.
[05:52] <Nergar> so what else should i install????
[05:52] <Kickersny> my install is hung at 82% ("Scanning the mirror...")
[05:52] <Kickersny> what's it doing? waiting on the server?
[05:52] <Nergar> maybe
[05:52] <crimsun> labanux: ok, looking.
[05:52] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - i keep on seeing the phrase network is down in refernce to eht1
[05:52] <insmod> RAOF: all the forums say it's usplash
[05:52] <Nergar> servers are full
[05:52] <bobbob1016> crimsun, still no sound from anything but the sound pref's
[05:53] <zero88> what advantages are they to compiling your own kenel.or reompiling?
[05:53] <insmod> RAOF: works without usplash
[05:53] <Kickersny> Nergar, ahh, it just advanced and it's now downloading the package lists
[05:53] <SuperLag> ajax4: What's the verdict?
[05:53] <camer0ff> i need to download a website to a certain number of levels.. do i use wget?
[05:53] <crimsun> bobbob1016: are they all set to ALSA (for sink)?
[05:53] <RAOF> insmod: Ah, that's better.  No, I don't know, check out launchpad
[05:53] <Kickersny> it was finding a spot on a mirror I assume
[05:53] <Ubuntunoob> hi all
[05:53] <ajax4> zero88: You can optimize it to your exact hardware, but its not for beginners :)
[05:53] <Nergar> don't you all LOVE feisty!?!?! its AWESOME!!!!
[05:53] <Kickersny> Nergar, yes
[05:53] <bobbob1016> crimsun, one sec
[05:53] <RAOF> zero88: The advantages: none.  the disadvantages: You are no longer able to be supported
[05:54] <PresuntoRJ> Frog29: bizzar
[05:54] <slop> i am op in #windowsvsnixdebate
[05:54] <zero88> ajax4 RAOF oh ok,then ill stear clear of that for now :)
[05:54] <ajax4> SuperLag: Thumbs up. Getting the nvidia drivers working and setting up xgl ("desktop effects") was a snap.
[05:54] <codepoet> while trying to install Samsung unified linux drivers, I get the error "ERROR: HARDWARE_PLATFORM undefined, execution aborted" - any idea what I can do?
[05:54] <bimberi> zero88: you might get a (marginal at best) performance increase.  However you are then responsible for applying security patches - if you care.
[05:54] <Nergar> great support and lots of new features!!
[05:54] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - yea
[05:54] <bobbob1016> crimsun, it says OSS next to the device I'm using
[05:54] <blrich> can someone tell me how to install a package from packages.ubuntu.com?  i have a package.orig.tar.gz containing a bunch of .pkg files and i have no idea how to install it with dpkg
[05:54] <crimsun> bobbob1016: please choose ALSA instead.
[05:54] <zero88> bimberi so its jsut basically for hardware and optimization?
[05:54] <Frog29> PresuntoRJ - any chance it has the wrong driver?
[05:54] <ap1> How do I list console installed keymaps? loadkeys --what?
[05:54] <ireland> okay...so how do i list partitions with parted...can't get the damn thing to work.
[05:54] <blrich> i am in a real bind, if anyone can help that would be great
[05:54] <slop> its a channel reserved for me
[05:54] <Flannel> blrich: apt-get install [packagename]
[05:54] <bobbob1016> crimsun, one sec
[05:54] <Shaddox> Hi hi everyone! ^^
[05:54] <slop> to debate with myself
[05:54] <Flannel> blrich: er, with sudo
[05:55] <Ubuntunoob> refresh rate setting on Radeon 8500 HEKP somebody plz
[05:55] <slop> HEKP!
[05:55] <Shaddox> Is Feisty support still at #ubuntu+1?
[05:55] <blrich> Flannel, and that'll work even with an orig.tar.gz in the same directory?
[05:55] <Nergar> whats the devs channel???
[05:55] <RAOF> zero88: The only time you'd want to compile your own kernel is when the new kernel supports a piece of hardware you have, and the Ubuntu kernel doesn't.
[05:55] <bobbob1016> crimsun, no sound in anything now
[05:55] <Ubuntunoob> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP im going blind
[05:55] <Kickersny> Shaddox, I would guess that's for Gutsy
[05:55] <bimberi> zero88: that would be the main reason to roll-your-own yes
[05:55] <blrich> Flannel, do i have to put the tar.gz in the package repository dir or something?
[05:55] <jessid> !fakeroot
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeroot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <Ubuntunoob> sry 4 yellin'
[05:55] <SuperLag> Ubuntunoob: chill out
[05:55] <Flannel> blrich: no.  That works through the internet.  Package.ubuntu.com is a place to browse.  You don't need the tar.gz
[05:55] <drfrog666> hi all i have a laptop w an ati x1400 nay chance in hell i can install off liveCD?>
[05:55] <zero88> ahh ok thanks guys
[05:55] <jessid> !usb
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <slop> Nergar: ubuntu-devel
[05:55] <jessid> !keyspan
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keyspan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <eobanb> !fixres | Ubuntunoob
[05:55] <ubotu> Ubuntunoob: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:55] <jessid> !serial
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <RAOF> blrich: You should download the .deb file from packages.ubuntu.com.  That's what dpkg understands.
[05:56] <Fujitsu> !botspam | jessid
[05:56] <Shaddox> Okay, then I'll ask here. How do I copy a folder from my laptop to my server over an SSH connection onto my server as a sudo, so I can copy it to /usr/local/hlserver/ns ?
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botspam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <blrich> Flannel, well i downloaded the package because i don't have the internet, i need to install it manually before i get drivers support for my network card to get on to the net
[05:56] <Nergar> slop, thnx
[05:56] <rellik> why is it that ubuntu releases don't have round numbers?  6.06, 6.10, 7.04..  these seem like unusual versions for major releases
[05:56] <Ubuntunoob> thx a lot!
[05:56] <jessid> Fujitsu what do yo mean?
[05:56] <Kickersny> rellik, year.month :)
[05:56] <Fujitsu> rellik: They are year.month, so 7.04 is April 2007.
[05:56] <crimsun> labanux: lsmod|grep ^snd
[05:56] <rellik> ahhhhh
[05:56] <blrich> RAOF, i can't find the .deb files on the site, where would the link be? i search for the package and down the bottom of the package page it just has an orig.tar.gz and a diff.tar.gz
[05:56] <crimsun> labanux: (to pastebin)
[05:56] <bobbob1016> crimsun, under Devices I have two things, one is Intel and it says ALSA mixer next to it, and the Realtek says OSS, neither work on any of the settings
[05:56] <Fujitsu> jessid: You're somewhat abusing the bot.
[05:56] <ryeth25> .theme
[05:56] <DPic> I just created a new partition using the Ubuntu live CD but how do i get it to appear so that i can use it?
[05:57] <RAOF> blrich: Is there any reason you're trying to download them manually anyway?
[05:57] <crimsun> bobbob1016: make sure it's set to ALSA
[05:57] <Shaddox> Okay, then I'll ask here. How do I copy a folder from my laptop to my server over an SSH connection onto my server as a sudo, so I can copy it to /usr/local/hlserver/ns ?
[05:57] <bobbob1016> crimsun, they all are
[05:57] <bobbob1016> crimsun, even the device
[05:57] <crimsun> bobbob1016: then, in a Terminal, type: aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav
[05:57] <Ubuntunoob> thx @ all supporter & bb
[05:57] <Flannel> blrich: ah.  You need to download the .debs, that gz you have now is a list of names of packages.
[05:57] <kofwang> help, when i restart system after upgrade to 704, boot fail
[05:57] <kofwang>  Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxx-xxx-xx-xxxx dose not exist, Dropping to a shell!!
[05:57] <Fujitsu> Shaddox: You'll probably have to scp to your home directory, then copy with sudo from there.
[05:57] <blrich> RAOF, yeah i have no drivers for my network card because it's on a new mobo with nforce 430 chipset, i need to get the restricted drivers package for it to work (or so i'm trying)
[05:57] <bobbob1016> it said playing
[05:58] <bobbob1016> crimsun, it said playing
[05:58] <SuperLag> Shaddox: rsync is probably the easiet way
[05:58] <DPic> Somebody? I just created a new partition using the Ubuntu live CD but how do i get it to show up so that i can use it?
[05:58] <RAOF> blrich: The restricted drivers package is on all of the install CDs.
[05:58] <BlackDalek> why won't any ntp servers I add to the servers in "Time and Date Settings" stick?
[05:58] <bobbob1016> crimsun, and I didn't hear anything
[05:58] <blrich> Flannel, okay cool, but where do i find the .deb downloads? there doesn't seem to be any links to a .deb on the individual package pages
[05:58] <albert> flannel: found everything, thanks
[05:58] <jessid> Fujitsu mmm sorry...did not want to bother...perhaps you know something about compiling the kernel with the keyspan driver...or you might know where to go first...
[05:58] <Flannel> blrich: on each package's page, at the bottom, is a little table with different arches.  Click your arch, and you'll be able to choose a mirror to download a specific .deb file. install that with dpkg (don't forget dependencies!)
[05:58] <Shaddox> Fujitsu: Can you explain how? I'm still a ubuntu nubcaek, and finally got Cedega working for my Steam and stuff.
[05:58] <crimsun> bobbob1016: please pastebin `cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer` , then tell me the URL of the paste
[05:58] <blrich> RAOF, a-ha, should i a cd repos in apt sources to get it off?
[05:58] <Flannel> blrich: OH wait.
[05:58] <Shaddox> SuperLag: Is it easier then what Fujitsu said? I'm extremely confused. X_x
[05:58] <T0uCH> i had a power failure earlier today during the installation of feisty 7.04... the installation has stop... but now the problem is i cant restart the install of the packages that we're installed on the first upgrades(the one with the power failure) and it seems now that upgrades manager is installing version 6.10 ... i allready got this one... somebody can help what i should do now?
[05:58] <Flannel> blrich: You need ndiswrapper?
[05:58] <blrich> Flannel, ah cool thankyou!
[05:58] <SuperLag> blrich: why not just use apt or synaptic, like it's designed?
[05:58] <slop> #windowsvsnixdebate
[05:58] <Flannel> slop: please stop
[05:58] <blrich> Flannel, no i have nforce 430 chipset, i need restricted drivers, which i *think* will work
[05:59] <lowfront> Ya I'm on feisty!!!
[05:59] <wj32> hi
[05:59] <lowfront> I like
[05:59] <ap1> update-rc.d works like always? Not replaces by any Ubuntu fancy? Works with the graphical tools for services and bum?
[05:59] <blrich> SuperLag, , i dont have a net connection on the affected machine
[05:59] <RAOF> blrich: Actually, now that I look at it.  There is no nforce driver in the restricted drivers package.
[05:59] <SuperLag> Shaddox: are you on the machine you want to copy to?
[05:59] <wj32> can i upgrade easily from edgy to feisty using the desktop cd?
[05:59] <SuperLag> blrich: why not?
[05:59] <Hasrat_USA> how come you had a power failure?
[05:59] <RAOF> blrich: But does it *really* not have a driver for it out of the box?    That's not a package.  But, ndiswrapper is on the CD you have, you dont need to sneakernet, youve already got it
[05:59] <wj32> i'm currently going to upgrade using the alternate cd
[05:59] <bobbob1016> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/449306
[05:59] <Flannel> wj32: no.  Alternate CD.
[05:59] <blrich> RAOF, oh good :( oh well i thought there might be something caus it has nvidia stuff
[05:59] <ireland> exit
[05:59] <crimsun> ap1: yes, we still use update-rc.d in maintainer scripts. Beware mucking with upstart scripts.
[05:59] <MrMakeveli> hey guys, who here uses the old school xchat and not the gnome frontend one?
[05:59] <RAOF> blrich: Na, it's only got the nvidia graphics driver.
[06:00] <slop> MrMakeveli: irssi!
[06:00] <SuperLag> irssi++
[06:00] <Flannel> blrich: you might be interested in ndiswrapper
[06:00] <Flannel> !wifi | blrich
[06:00] <ubotu> blrich: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:00] <Shaddox> SuperLag: I'm on the machine I'm copying FROM.
[06:00] <crimsun> bobbob1016: ...you do realize that 'PCM' is set to 0% , correct?
[06:00] <slop> EST: timechange!
[06:00] <MrMakeveli> SuperLag, is irss++ a irc client?
[06:00] <RAOF> Flannel: But it's not a wireless network card?
[06:00] <blrich> Flannel, RAOF, SuperLag, the problem is when i run lspci, it just has tonnes of 'unknown nvidia device'. the built in ethernet on the board has drivers for it, but (i think) because i don't have drivers for the system bus (nforce 430 drivers) i can't even get the system to see the ethernet either
[06:00] <Flannel> RAOF: What?  Oh.  Sorry. blrich, I wasnt paying attention I guess.
[06:01] <ap1> I don't have Sys/Adm/Disks, that the Help system describes?
[06:01] <bobbob1016> crimsun, I have the system tray all the way up
[06:01] <kerik> Hey guys!
[06:01] <MrMakeveli> slop, irssi++ is a irc client?
[06:01] <aldin> hi, can someone tell ppl from packages.ubuntu.com to set up feisty (as default choise) when searching packages, cause there is edgy still... feedback?
[06:01] <Flannel> MrMakeveli: irssi is.
[06:01] <trillian> I upgraded to Feisty and am having graphics prolems - I have an ATI graphics card which worked before and showed up in fglrxinfo, but now I'm seeing Mesa. It likewise isn't appearing in the "Restricted Driver Manager" panel, and I've tried tutorials such as http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide but although everything will seem to go through I'll restart and it will stay Mesa drivers. I'd appreciate any help or advice (alth
[06:01] <trillian> ough I could live with Mesa for a few days until things calm down)
[06:01] <Shaddox> SuperLag: I think I've figured something out, hold up.
[06:01] <crimsun> bobbob1016: no.  amixer set 'PCM' 80%
[06:01] <RAOF> blrich: Oh, lspci *always* has a bunch of unknown devices.  That's no problem.
[06:01] <kerik> anyone who can tell me what an "error 2" when updating is?
[06:01] <SuperLag> Shaddox: get on the machine you want to copy to, in the directory you want to copy to
[06:01] <blrich> RAOF, yeah but we're talking every device on the board
[06:01] <MrMakeveli> Flannel, does anyone use the gnome frontend for xchat?
[06:01] <RAOF> blrich: There are no drivers for a system bus.
[06:01] <RAOF> MrMakeveli: I do.
[06:02] <Flannel> MrMakeveli: xchat-gnome is in main, "xchat" is in universe.
[06:02] <blrich> RAOF, it'sa gigabyte g61p-s3, it's new and therefore there are no drivers (apparently)
[06:02] <ryeth25> ~/.irssi/config
[06:02] <ryeth25> dammit
[06:02] <bobbob1016> crimsun, nm, I feel really stupid now, it is usually the easiest thing, isn't it?
[06:02] <kerik> it seems I cannot reach  http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/restricted/source/Sources.bz2..anyone know why?
[06:02] <bobbob1016> crimsun, it works
[06:02] <SuperLag> Shaddox: then do this... rsync://source_IP_from_other_machine:/dir/you/want/copied .
[06:02] <bobbob1016> crimsun, I had to right click the sound thing and open volume control
[06:02] <MrMakeveli> to clarify, i am using xchat in the uni and not xchat-gnome. is there any reason to use gnome other than aesthetics? it seems like i cant do as much
[06:02] <blrich> RAOF, well you know, north bridge or whatever. all i know is, ubuntu (dapper) is recognising nothing, i don't have a NIC according to it
[06:02] <Kickersny> um... "The program apt-get is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: apt-get install apt"
[06:02] <Shaddox> SuperLag: The machine has no monitor anymore. I forgot it broke last week. X_x I got something good, im using a file browser to copy the folder to my home on the server, then gonna copy it to /usr/local/hlserver/
[06:02] <Kickersny> but of course, when I type that, I get the same thing
[06:02] <milage> Is the SMB shared folders thing supposed to work out of the box?
[06:02] <RAOF> blrich: Oh, *Dapper*?  Sorry, I've been hanging around in #ubuntu+1 for too long.
[06:03] <Rkyraccoon55> anyone know how to change the login screen resolution?
[06:03] <SuperLag> Shaddox: cool.
[06:03] <Flannel> Kickersny: download the .deb from packages.ubuntu.com then install it with `dpkg -i [file] `
[06:03] <RAOF> blrich: Yes, it's entirely possible that Dapper (which is now a full year old) won't have drivers for your stuff.
[06:03] <Shaddox> 844 files copying from me to my server now. :D
[06:03] <BlackDalek> How come when I add a server to the ntp servers list it just disappears?
[06:03] <bobbob1016> crimsun, I still have the beryl problem though
[06:03] <plewis77_> I have the Broadcom 1400 working fine
[06:03] <Shaddox> Natural Selection is a big big mod. ^^
[06:03] <BHSPitMonkey> wow.  the Disk Usage Analyzer had my vote until I just hit Refresh on a single directory, and it decided to refresh the whole drive.
[06:03] <milage> It doesn't seem to be doing so for me
[06:03] <Kickersny> Flannel, I'll give it a shot
[06:03] <blrich> RAOF, it's kubuntu too, so god knows if they even have an edgy or feisty version out, it's for dad's dev machine so he wants dapper because he doesn't want any new versions of stuff he's working on (gtk, python, etc.)
[06:03] <crimsun> bobbob1016: I don't care for beryl, sorry.
[06:04] <blrich> RAOF, hmm i might just try and get a feisty cd and see if it works
[06:04] <Rkyraccoon55> anyone know how to change the login screen resolution?
[06:04] <MrMakeveli> is xchat-gnome > xchat?
[06:05] <evandsays> question: i just installed kubuntu on my macbook... and the touchpad works well... but i want to configure some settings... i cant find the settings for that anywhere (not in mouse settings).. anyone know where the settings are?
[06:05] <jessid> see you later!!!
[06:05] <ap1> Do I get a complete list of all devices with mount, lpci, lsusb?
[06:05] <gr3ml1n> hi i have a problem with cedega 6.0
[06:05] <gr3ml1n> Can't seem to be able to execute the WineX start up script /home/gr3ml1n/.cedega/.winex_ver/winex-6.0/bin/winex3 - perhaps your installation of WineX version default is corrupted?
[06:05] <Flannel> MrMakeveli: no.  Theyre different. Most people prefer the latter.
[06:05] <trillian> I upgraded to Feisty from Edgy and am having graphics card problems - I have an ATI graphics card which worked before and showed up in fglrxinfo, but now I'm seeing Mesa. It likewise isn't appearing in the "Restricted Driver Manager" panel, and I've tried tutorials such as http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide but although everything will seem to go through I'll restart and it will stay Mesa drivers. I'd appreciate any help
[06:05] <trillian>  or advice (although I could live with Mesa for a few days until things calm down)
[06:05] <milage> I selected a folder to share through the "Shared Folders" administration panel, and chose to enable write access for it
[06:05] <kerik> Rkyraccoon55: is the login res different from your res when logged in?
[06:05] <MrMakeveli> Flannel, thank god, i thought i was the only one
[06:05] <Rkyraccoon55> kerik yea
[06:05] <mojojojo_> Which distribution of Feisty Fawn should I choose if I have Core 2 Due processor?
[06:05] <Taime1> i installed beryl, but only get the tray icon, beryl isnt running, and when i choose beryl as the window manager, it just blinks and goes back to using metacity
[06:05] <milage> When I access it from a different PC, i'mpropted for a user/pass
[06:05] <Taime1> why?
[06:05] <Hobart> trying to upgrade a 1GB pendrive commandline install of Feisty.  Does aptitude check for disk free space before acting?
[06:05] <MrMakeveli> Flannel, it could be a little more pretty, but i think i enjoy it more
[06:05] <Kickersny> Flannel, wget: command not found
[06:05] <Flannel> gr3ml1n: #cedega
[06:05] <gecko> hey all... can someone point me in the right direction for customizing ubuntu (appearance wise..)?
[06:05] <Rkyraccoon55> kerik it cuts off the bottom of the screen on the login window but not when logged on
[06:05] <Kickersny> how else can I download it?
[06:05] <Kickboy> I need some assistance with my 6.10 to 7.04 upgrade. I tried doing the upgrade through the update manager, but it was taking waaay too long. So I stopped it, and downloaded the "Alternate CD" to do it from there (Since BitTorrent is faster, it took only 20 minutes to DL). Well, now because I stopped the first upgrade ALL of my packwages are no longer authenticated, making it completely impossible for me to upgrade. Any ideas?
[06:05] <kerik> Rkyraccoon55: sounds wacko :)...are you using x?
[06:06] <Flannel> Kickersny: Why'd you break wget?
[06:06] <labanux> crimsun: still here??
[06:06] <milage> the shared folder admin panel didn't have anywhere to input any users
[06:06] <Rkyraccoon55> im using the default
[06:06] <Rkyraccoon55> kerik im using the default
[06:06] <milage> so i tried what I use to log in to linux
[06:06] <Kickersny> Flannel, this is first boot; I didn't even get to a GUI
[06:06] <milage> but that didn't work
[06:06] <mojojojo_> Which distribution of Feisty Fawn should I choose if I have Core 2 Due processor?
[06:06] <RAOF> blrich: Yeah, try the Feisty LiveCD, and possibly just install a Dapper chroot into it :)
[06:06] <milage> This would be 6.10
[06:06] <Flannel> Kickersny: Your install didn't work
[06:06] <Kickersny> blast
[06:06] <gecko> mojojojo_:  you from ohio?
[06:06] <Flannel> Kickersny: you're missing... probably most of your install.
[06:06] <blrich> RAOF, ooh good call :P
[06:06] <csmanx> my ubuntu dapper dvd doesn't have rescue mode =/
[06:06] <blrich> RAOF, yeah i'll have to do that
[06:06] <mojojojo_> gecko: no, why?
[06:06] <kerik> Rkyraccoon55: obkb....have you tried system -> settings > resolution?
[06:07] <bobbob1016> can anyone help me with getting AIGLX to work with beryl?  I had XGL and the ATI driver on Edgy, but now I can't switch it to AIGLX
[06:07] <RAOF> mojojojo_: You can use either the i386 or the AMD64 version, either will work.
[06:07] <blrich> RAOF, SuperLag Flannel thanks for your help :)
[06:07] <T0uCH> i had a power failure earlier today during the installation of feisty 7.04... the installation has stop... but now the problem is i cant restart the install of the packages that we're installed on the first upgrades(the one with the power failure) and it seems now that upgrades manager is installing version 6.10 ... i allready got this one... somebody can help what i should do now?
[06:07] <Abom> hey pppoe_dude, still there? I had my linux friend try to troubleshoot it more with me and still we haven't been able to get online
[06:07] <bambie> ubuntu 6.0 doesn't have ex-chat on it?
[06:07] <Rkyraccoon55> kerik, yea that seems to only be for once logged in
[06:07] <gecko> mojojojo_: same exact name was a guy i used to game with...he was from very very east ohio lol
[06:07] <evandsays> anyone know how to configure the macbook's touchpad for KDE in kubuntu??
[06:07] <fluid> and now im having issues...installed the latest (horrible i know) ati drivers for this chipset...all went well. the xorg error log is showing that its attempting to load an older fglrx module...anybody know how to fix that?
[06:07] <bambie> xchat i meant
[06:07] <bobbob1016> Beryl didn't work on my XGL after upgrading to Feisty
[06:07] <Flannel> bambie: 6.06 has xchat-gnome in main, and xchat in universe
[06:07] <RAOF> bobbob1016: Join #ubuntu-effects for that, there's too much noise in here!
[06:07] <Abom> pppoe_dude: I tried doing sudo iwconfig for my wireless and plugging in just about everything I could manually but nothing worked
[06:07] <crimsun> labanux: I'm awaiting the information that I requested.
[06:07] <bobbob1016> RAOF, sorry, forgot about that channel
[06:07] <pppoe_dude> Abom, did you do the if up/down commands?
[06:07] <mojojojo_> RAOF: yeah, but I'm wondering which one will perform better
[06:07] <labanux> crimsun : this is the output : http://pastebin.ca/449300
[06:07] <pppoe_dude> Abom, did you get messages?
[06:07] <milage> Is any of you able to help me a bit with SMB shared folders?
[06:08] <gecko> where can i go to figure out how to customize ubuntu appearance wise? like talking about themes and stuff?
[06:08] <kerik> Rkyraccoon55: yeah...you might be right on that one...
[06:08] <kerik> Rkyraccoon55: 2 sec
[06:08] <Kickersny> gecko, gnome-looks.org
[06:08] <csmanx> oh well
[06:08] <csmanx> I'll try to download a cd image
[06:08] <Rkyraccoon55> kerik: thanks
[06:08] <RAOF> mojojojo_: The AMD64 version, but you probably won't notice the difference unless you're doing CPU intensive stuff
[06:08] <mojojojo_> gecko: I'm from Poland, so it's rather distant from there :)
[06:08] <csmanx> this is ridiculous
[06:08] <gecko> Kickersny:  i have...i jus need to find out how to change applications menu button change...
[06:08] <dc> If i install using the disk, will it format my disk or will it upgrade?
[06:08] <Abom> o ya know what, I did those first, and then I got an error, posted him the error and he said, "o woops you gotta do it with sudo beforehand" and I don't think I did it after that...
[06:08] <Kickersny> gecko, http://gnome-look.org/
[06:08] <Abom> what were they again?
[06:08] <Kickersny> sorry, had the URL wrong
[06:09] <T0uCH> i had a power failure earlier today during the installation of feisty 7.04... the installation has stop... but now the problem is i cant restart the install of the packages that we're installed on the first upgrades(the one with the power failure) and it seems now that upgrades manager is installing version 6.10 ... i allready got this one... somebody can help what i should do now?
[06:09] <gecko> Kickersny:  ive installed themes and stuff, i just want to change an icon...the menu icon on "start" menu...if you understand lol
[06:09] <trillian> I'm having an ATI Raedon problem. I upgraded from Feisty and the card was working and showing up in fglrxinfo but it's now showing mesa. Likewise, the card is not showing up in the 'restricted drivers manager' and i'm not sure how to load it. i've tried online tutorials but so far have had no luck
[06:09] <labanux> crimsun : that's the only information you need doesn't it?
[06:09] <kerik> Rkyraccoon55: in system > admin > login how is your x's set?
[06:09] <ap1> How does automounting of cd-roms work? Which package does that? Or which kernel subsystem?
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> Abom, sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo  ifup eth1 (or whatever yor interface is)
[06:09] <Kickersny> ahh
[06:09] <BlackDalek> anyone know why I can't add ntp servers to the list?
[06:09] <Kickersny> gecko, mmm, not sure
[06:09] <RAOF> ap1: A combination of udev, HAL and gnome-volume-manager
[06:10] <gecko> Kickersny:  its ok..... i just cant seem to find anyone who knows much about changing THOSE kind of system files lol...
[06:10] <Rkyraccoon55> kerik: how do you mean? "default session 'run xclient script'"?
[06:10] <Taime1> where can i get beryl support??????????????????
[06:10] <Kickersny> gecko, check /usr/share
[06:10] <kerik> Rkyraccoon55: btw....dapper or Edgy/Feisty?
[06:10] <crimsun> labanux: no, I also asked for `lsmod|grep ^snd`
[06:10] <eobanb> Taime1, #ubuntu-effects
[06:10] <Taime1> thanks
[06:10] <Rkyraccoon55> kerik: feisty
[06:10] <gecko> Taime1:  you can go to beryl's website for support
[06:10] <trillian> I'm trying to reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx but the main archive.ubuntu repository isn't loading. do any mirrors have it? (none i've tried seem to)
[06:10] <kerik> Rkyraccoon55: I mean your little "ticks" in the boxes in there :)
[06:11] <pppoe_dude> trillian, try downloading from packages.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <ap1> RAOF, thx
[06:11] <kerik> Rkyraccoon55: I don't know if there is any change from Dapper to Feisty though...
[06:11] <gecko> trillian:  are you having an issue with it being slow upon updates? if you give it a few...it will work
[06:11] <gecko> trillian: i had that problem earlier today
[06:11] <Rkyraccoon55> kerik: first 2 checked, no 3, yes 4, 5, no 6
[06:11] <kerik> Rkyraccoon55: as Im using dapper...
[06:11] <whta> i noticed when choosing to upgrade, it'll be removing my old beryl install. will i have to redo all my settings for that?
[06:11] <MrMakeveli> are the repos still doing this bad?!
[06:11] <bambie> how can i install xchat on ubuntu 6.06?
[06:11] <trillian> gecko: it's not being slow, it's saying the connection timed out
[06:11] <Rkyraccoon55> kerik: oh
[06:11] <trillian> gecko: i've literally not been able to connect to it all day
[06:11] <labanux> crimsun: lsmod|grep ^snd  return nothing, i've tried this too 'lsmod|grep snd", still return nothing..
[06:12] <whta> and i expect these terrible download speeds are because of massive traffic? :p
[06:12] <BlackDalek> internet time server synchronizing... anyone got any clues?
[06:12] <bambie> cause mine doesn't have xchat i've been using gaim for ircing but i dont really like it :/
[06:12] <crimsun> labanux: now, `sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel`
[06:12] <Awperator> Hello guys, another question thanks for all the help so far. I mistakenly make my home partition only 1.0GB and my swap 10GB but I just resized it using the feisty liveCD. But now my /home is still showing 300MB free space. What do I need to do? Gparted shows the size of the /home partition as 10GB, why dont I have all that space now?
[06:12] <gecko> trillian: i had to take a command line approach... it took 2 hours to figure it out...it told me apt-get wasnt right...i didnt have rights.... i rebooted and it was fine
[06:12] <Rkyraccoon55> kerik: :show visual feedback", "use circles instead of asterisks", "disable multiple logins", "default session"
[06:12] <voraistos> bambie: sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:12] <voraistos> or xchat-irc
[06:13] <Madpilot> bambie, enable Universe, install xchat via apt-get, Synaptic or Add/Remove
[06:13] <trillian> gecko: i'm just doin 'sudo apt-get update' and it's timing out
[06:13] <bambie> voraistos thank you.
[06:13] <fluid> anyone know what i can do when i install a newer kernel module and Xorg is attempting to load an older preexisting one instead of the new one?
[06:13] <gr3ml1n> how to enable mouse button 3 4 and 5 ?
[06:13] <kerik> Rkyraccoon55: ok...I have nothing like that :/
[06:13] <voraistos> bambie: i think xchat-gnome is included in the main repo.
[06:13] <bambie> one more thing, how can i change my real name/ username?
[06:13] <kerik> Rkyraccoon55: that's in settings for the login-screen?
[06:14] <Awperator> gr3mlin what type of mouse?
[06:14] <gr3ml1n> Awperator:  logitech mx518
[06:14] <Rkyraccoon55> kerik: i guess that changed a bit. yea in the general tab
[06:14] <swj> has anyone notice that you have gksudo brasero or gnome baker before burning?
[06:14] <trillian> pppoe_dude, i'm not sure how to download from packages.ubuntu.com - is it actually a repository or am i downloading files from my browser?
[06:14] <voraistos> bambie: look in the preferences menu.
[06:14] <crimsun> labanux: and what was the result?
[06:14] <kerik> Rkyraccoon55: I sure believe it has....sorry mate
[06:14] <pppoe_dude> trillian, files from browser
[06:14] <Rkyraccoon55> kerik: its cool i appreciate the help anyways
[06:14] <diabolix> I know how fix this.. but why is the installer completely useless at 800x600 when thats what it set my resolution to?
[06:14] <pppoe_dude> trillian, you can search and download the package you want, then sudo dpkg -i <package> to install it
[06:15] <pppoe_dude> trillian, there are a lot of mirrors there
[06:15] <bambie> voraistos alright thanks alot
[06:15] <DanaG> Purple would be nice for a change from orange, which I also like.
[06:15] <ap1> !wlan
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <Frog29> yarr - how do i add the 1024 X 768 resolution that i had in 6.10 to 7.04?
[06:15] <kerik> Anybody know about present problems with  http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/restricted/source/Sources.bz2 ?
[06:15] <T0uCH> someone can gave me the link for the alternate cd iso download... the one i can upgrade with.. ??
[06:15] <MrMakeveli> is everyone else havin probs w/ the repos too?
[06:15] <Frog29> I lost it in the upgrade
[06:15] <BlackDalek> is anyone else able to add ntp servers or is doing so impossible for everyone?
[06:15] <swj> anyone having a problem burning with feisty?
[06:15] <gr3ml1n> how to enable mouse button 3 4 and 5 ?
[06:16] <SuperLag> gr3ml1n: do a search on teh forums for ZAxisMapping
[06:16] <Nergar> anyone want to recommend me some cool aps???
[06:16] <DanaG> I use evdev for my mouse.
[06:16] <Madpilot> ubotu, mouse | gr3ml1n
[06:16] <ubotu> gr3ml1n: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[06:16] <labanux> crimsun: the module can't be found.. :(
[06:16] <Awperator> gr3mlin: this link helped me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894&highlight=sound
[06:16] <diabolix> it seems like feisty's installer isn't as smart as edgys...
[06:16] <deepsa> how do i manage network services in ubuntu? i am use to chkconfig <Serivcename> <on/off>?
[06:16] <Nergar> anyone want to recommend me some cool aps??? /msg me the apps :)
[06:16] <whta> are there improved printer drivers with feisty? one HUGE drawback i've found so far with ubuntu is that  my printer won't work properly with it.
[06:16] <SuperLag> diabolix: why do you say that?
[06:16] <Awperator> gr3mlin: I have the same exact mouse
[06:16] <MrMakeveli> Nergar, i use "tomboy notes'" every day
[06:16] <compilerwriter> Can a person update from the cd iso without breaking things, or must one use adept?
[06:16] <gecko> trillian: i dont understand why it is timing out...that is really weird
[06:17] <Meshezabeel> whta what kind of printer do you have?
[06:17] <Nergar> MrMakeveli, sticky notes for me
[06:17] <kerik> anybody having problems updating from dapper to edgy???
[06:17] <MrMakeveli> Nergar, you ever try tomboy?
[06:17] <whta> mesh: canon pixma mp600
[06:17] <trillian> gecko, =/
[06:17] <BHSPitMonkey> Nergar, Tremulous
[06:17] <diabolix> SuperLag: it set my resolution to 800x600, the installer is completely useless here. i gues i can hit enter, but if i where new to linux this would turn me off right away.
[06:17] <billy> what package do I require so that ./configure works?
[06:17] <labanux> crimsun: the module can't be found.. , or maybe there's missing component?
[06:17] <mjbrooks> G'Evening Madpilot  been a crazy night?
[06:18] <MrMakeveli> Nergar, for tomboy notes, i like that theres a header in a different color, and then the text below. you can also search them
[06:18] <tonyr1988> billy: build-essential if I understand you correctly
[06:18] <Awperator> Can anyone help me w/ my partition/resizing problem or should I post again?
[06:18] <MrMakeveli> its been a godsend for me
[06:18] <Madpilot> mjbrooks, not as bad as it might have been
[06:18] <billy> thx tonyr1988
[06:18] <Frog29> How do i set my reslution to 1024X768 on 7.04? i had it working by default on 6.10....
[06:18] <deepsa> how do i manage network services in ubuntu? i am use to chkconfig <Serivcename> <on/off>?
[06:19] <Nergar> MrMakeveli, i used tomboy for a while, but like how sticky notes handles the notes
[06:19] <RAOF> !bum | depsa
[06:19] <ubotu> depsa: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:19] <billy> Frog29, System>Pref's>Screen Resolution
[06:19] <mjbrooks> Madpilot, quick, knock on wood!  ;)
[06:19] <Black_> !irc
[06:19] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[06:19] <diabolix> Frog29: "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf "
[06:19] <vexati0n> is it possible to take an ISO image and create a virtual cdrom device in /dev that points to it?
[06:19] <MrMakeveli> Nergar, in what way? if you give me a reason sticky > tomboy i'll switch. im open minded hehe
[06:19] <EverythingEvil2> deepsa: /etc/init.d/<service> start/stop/restart
[06:19] <mjbrooks> Madpilot, lol
[06:19] <whta> isn't having a !irc command in an IRC channel kind of redundant?
[06:19] <zilly6_> if i have the feisty iso, is there a way i can upgrade using it?
[06:19] <Awperator> Hello guys, another question thanks for all the help so far. I mistakenly make my home partition only 1.0GB and my swap 10GB but I just resized it using the feisty liveCD. But now my /home is still showing 300MB free space. What do I need to do? Gparted shows the size of the /home partition as 10GB, why dont I have all that space now?
[06:19] <SuperLag> vexati0n: yes, but why? what are you trying to do?
[06:20] <kerik> nobody had problems updating from Dapper to Edgy?
[06:20] <s0undt3ch> hello ppl, I recently bought a LG P1 Express Pro laptop, couldn't get feity to install, although 6.10 I could, but my gigabit lan card although detected, was not loaded, got any sugestions?
[06:20] <trillian> i'm attempting to reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx because I can't get it working with the download from ATI and get the following error: "Reinstallation of xorg-driver-fglrx is not possible, it cannot be downloaded."
[06:20] <diabolix> Frog29: and then look for all the lines that look like  Modes           "800x600" and add "1024x768" in front of "800x600"
[06:20] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: i did
[06:20] <vexati0n> SuperLag, trying to fool vmware.
[06:20] <deepsa> EverythingEvil2: update-rc.d ?
[06:20] <Nergar> MrMakeveli, they're like screen post its
[06:20] <diabolix> Frog29: then press alt+ctr+backspace
[06:20] <trillian> zilly, you can download the feisty alternate CD and can upgrade from that
[06:20] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: what error did you get?
[06:20] <Nergar> BHSPitMonkey, what does it do?
[06:21] <zilly6_> trillian, what if i already downloaded it via bittorrent?
[06:21] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: i dunno, broke a lot of stuff
[06:21] <trillian> (although I'm having mixed luck with it....it might just suggest waiting a week and doing the built-in download upgrade, or a fresh install. can't tell if it's just my bad luck, or not)
[06:21] <ap1> ok, so the WLAN question. I booted Edgt CD on my Thinkpad Z60m and configured the WLAN graphically. It said reconfiguring devices, but nothing seemed to happen after that? How do I debug?
[06:21] <billy> tonyr1988, keep getting "command not found".  hm ...
[06:21] <zilly6_> trillan i grabbed desktop
[06:21] <BHSPitMonkey> Nergar, lets you shoot at people over teh internet.
[06:21] <Nergar> lol
[06:21] <marvin_> i'm starting evolution with --debug to fix an auth problem i seem to have. everything seems fine, but in the file the username and password are hidden, so i can't check them. is there a way to make them not hidden w/o recompiling?
[06:21] <fluid> brb...gotta restart
[06:21] <trillian> zilly6_, from what i could tell, you can only *upgrade* from edgy to feisty from the alternate CD - i did the same thing and had to redownload the alternate (which only took, like, another half hour - there are tons of people seeding)
[06:21] <guitrokr> hello?
[06:21] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: did you use the gksu "update-manager -c"?
[06:22] <Frog29> diabolix - thanks let me try that
[06:22] <MrMakeveli> yeah does anyone else have any suggestions for useful/interesting apps?
[06:22] <BlackDalek> ntp? anyone?
[06:22] <s0undt3ch> any idea on how I can make that lan card to work?
[06:22] <crimsun> labanux: paste the command that you used
[06:22] <Nergar> BHSPitMonkey, 101 MB??? wow
[06:22] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:22] <zilly6_> trillian ok, i'll let it go over night. do you know of a good guide for setting proper screen resolution?
[06:22] <kerik> deepsa: there are other ways to update than gksu "update-manager -c"?
[06:22] <trillian> zilly6_, sorry, i don't
[06:22] <pirothezero> so are we supporting feisty in here now?
[06:22] <Black_> !hi | guitrokr
[06:22] <ubotu> guitrokr: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:22] <pirothezero> or still +1
[06:22] <BHSPitMonkey> Nergar, it's that good
[06:23] <trillian> Can anyone help me get my ATI Raedon working? it's not appearing in the 'restricted drivers manager' and the tutorials I'm finding online aren't working
[06:23] <diabolix> Frog29: tell me how it goes.. pressing alt+ctrl+backspace will log you out, just so you know.
[06:23] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: will that mess up the system or keep drivers intact?
[06:23] <deepsa> what happened to the repo's i am not getting packages
[06:23] <deepsa> !slow
[06:23] <BlackDalek> can no one make ntp work?
[06:23] <ubotu> The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[06:23] <labanux> crimsun : #modprobe snd-hda-intel  (i log in as root)
[06:23] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: from dapper to edgy?
[06:23] <zilly6_> anyone know how to modify screen resolution?
[06:23] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: yeah
[06:23] <Draconicus> OKAY
[06:23] <deepsa> zilly6_: system-config-display?
[06:23] <Draconicus> Enough with the newbies. I have a real question, and it matters!
[06:23] <s0undt3ch> how can I get that gigabit lan card up?
[06:23] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: i dont really remember what all broke, but i had to reinstall
[06:24] <BlackDalek> bing badda boom?
[06:24] <zilly6_> deepsa it doesn't display the native resolutions
[06:24] <deepsa> Draconicus: whats that
[06:24] <deepsa> zilly6_: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:24] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: darn....that's a drawback
[06:24] <BlackDalek> ug! ug!
[06:24] <Draconicus> deepsa: apt can't lock the list directory. There's no explanation given.
[06:24] <bambi1> hey
[06:24] <kerik> !update
[06:24] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:24] <zilly6_> deepsa thanks
[06:24] <deepsa> Draconicus: /var/log?
[06:24] <deepsa> zilly6_: np
[06:24] <trillian> When i try to apt-get update from archive.ubuntu.com I get Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[06:24] <Draconicus> deepsa: Dude, this is from a fresh install. Zero change.
[06:25] <guitrokr> does anyone want to answer me something i wanted to run by someone?
[06:25] <deepsa> !slow | trillian
[06:25] <ubotu> trillian: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[06:25] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: lets just say i installed a lot of stuff and i didnt know what i was doing either
[06:25] <Frog29> diabolix - ummm - i alreay have all modes between 1280X800 and 640X480... but under screen resolutions i nsystem whatever i can only select the 800 X 600
[06:25] <deepsa> Draconicus: whatever check logs
[06:25] <bambi1> when i type sudo apt install xchat it says : sudo apt command not found?
[06:25] <Black_> !slow | trillian
[06:25] <Draconicus> deepsa: There's no log for apt.
[06:25] <DanaG> Oh, for people with the Intel IGP:
[06:25] <DanaG> install 915resolution
[06:25] <BlackDalek> Condo fetch head! Ug!
[06:25] <zcat[1] > bambi1, apt-get install, perhaps?
[06:25] <deepsa> Draconicus: whats the error
[06:25] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: so actually the method might work if I dont' install all kinds of different woolahoop?
[06:25] <fbarcenas> I've been updating since 1pm CST. And it just froze on 970 of 1198.  Any ideas? Is there a retry or something?
[06:25] <billy> !info build-essentials feisty
[06:25] <johnlittle> bambil: sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:25] <DanaG> (which I wish was installed by default).
[06:25] <mjbrooks> deepsa, can you pipe those with >  the rest of us don't need to see it every 2 mins
[06:25] <ubotu> Package build-essentials does not exist in feisty
[06:25] <deepsa> !slow | fbarcenas
[06:25] <ubotu> fbarcenas: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[06:25] <bambi1> let me try
[06:26] <deepsa> mjbrooks: okay sorry
[06:26] <chainlynx> hey everyone, what should I use to update my system, apt-get or aptitude and why?
[06:26] <diabolix> Frog29: what graphics card is it?
[06:26] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: well, for video you would have to recompile the modules im willing to bet
[06:26] <trillian> Does anyone know how the 'restricted driver manager' works? i'm trying to get an ati raedon card working and failing...silly mesa
[06:26] <deepsa> chainlynx: apt-get because it's command line more powerful and stable
[06:26] <guitrokr> can i install and boot from an external hard drive with no problem?
[06:26] <zcat[1] > chainlynx, update-manager -c I think..
[06:26] <mjbrooks> chainlynx, either/or   because it's a personal preference
[06:26] <billy> chainlynx, i'd go with aptitude because it will automatically install recommended packages.
[06:26] <deCon> I'm having severe issues trying to get the feisty upgrade, it has bad repositories
[06:26] <deepsa> deCon: repos' are slow
[06:27] <BHSPitMonkey> chainlynx, update from edgy to feisty?
[06:27] <crimsun> labanux: did you attempt to recompile alsa-driver yourself?
[06:27] <bambi1> can i paste couple lines here? if you guys don't mind
[06:27] <deCon> deepsa, but the wrong ones?
[06:27] <Frog29> Diabolix - its an nvidea go 6150 built in on a laptop 9and please don't say update graphics card drivers.... beacause then  ihave to go try and get wireless wrokign again... which i alreayd tried....... and gave up on for the night, it worked on 6.10 with a higher resolution)
[06:27] <Draconicus> deepsa: "Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:27] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: you mean video card? - mine worked out of the box with dapper...
[06:27] <deepsa> bambi no use pastebin instead
[06:27] <bambi1> sorry, i'm newb
[06:27] <marvinalone> what's a good place to get evolution help?
[06:27] <Shaddox> Hi everyone, I have a question. I have a program for a Half Life server running on my server. How can I make sure that the program restarts in event of crash?
[06:27] <guitrokr> is there any way to actually get help in this support channel?
[06:27] <fbarcenas> deepsa, anyone got any statustics posted on the traffic?
[06:27] <Frog29> diabolix -  :D
[06:27] <deepsa> Draconicus: it seems process for apt is running
[06:27] <ant-> i'm getting 600KB from ussg.iu.edu for the iso
[06:27] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: accelerated?
[06:27] <deepsa> fbarcenas: no check the mirrors website
[06:27] <zcat[1] > Draconicus, iirc the lockfile should contain the pid of whatever created it.
[06:27] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: my only problem is that I am a bit nervous about my wireless, as I have just made that work...
[06:28] <bambi1> what is the site for paste bin?
[06:28] <diabolix> Frog29: is the driver set to "nvidia"?
[06:28] <DanaG> I allllllllways use aptitude.
[06:28] <mjbrooks> !paste > bambi1
[06:28] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: VERY NOTaccelerated :)
[06:28] <diabolix> or "nv"
[06:28] <deepsa> bambi1 /topic please
[06:28] <Nergar> anyone else had problems conecting to IRC with Gaim??
[06:28] <Frog29> Diabolix - ?
[06:28] <bambi1> thanks
[06:28] <Black_> any links to 7.04 livecd torrent?
[06:28] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: Intel i830GM
[06:28] <Draconicus> deepsa: Unless you guys stuffed some retarded automatic updater in there at the last minute that runs without saying anything, there's nothing that would be using it.
[06:28] <deepsa> Nergar: tell the problem
[06:28] <guitrokr> im on gaim now
[06:28] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: ah
[06:28] <diabolix> Frog29: in that file..
[06:28] <Draconicus> zcat[1] : That's interesting, because this is a brand new, shiny, fresh install. No changes made. One user.
[06:28] <deepsa> Draconicus: ps aux | grep apt please
[06:28] <Frog29> Diabolix - o
[06:28] <Nergar> Gaim crashes when i try to open a IRC account
[06:28] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: i dont know much about intel chipsets
[06:28] <xphaqtor> anybody having issues with the package manager?
[06:28] <zcat[1] > Draconicus, so cat the lockfile and kill of whatever process is locking it?
[06:29] <Frog29> Diabolix - generic video card and generic monuitor
[06:29] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: but do you know about wireless? I have a Atheros based mini-pci adapter...
[06:29] <NickGarvey> !slow | xphaqtor
[06:29] <zcat[1] > *off
[06:29] <ubotu> xphaqtor: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[06:29] <deepsa> Nergar: run from a terminal and paste the exact crash report please? which version of ubuntu btw?
[06:29] <unikuser> Frog29:did you try restricted driver manager?
[06:29] <Black_> !torrents
[06:29] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[06:29] <commonlyUNIQU3> please HELP!  how do I activate a PCMCIA wifi card?  I can see it with lcpci (it shows up as an Ethernet Controller)
[06:29] <xphaqtor> cool, thx...just making sure it wasn't just me
[06:29] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: i have no idea about wireless, i dont use it, dont need it
[06:29] <Nergar> deepsa, feisty
[06:29] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: sorry man
[06:29] <s0undt3ch> please some help on a gigabit lan card detected but now brought up?!
[06:29] <guitrokr> is there anyone here who would answer a question for me in private IM real quick about installing ubuntu (feisty) to an external hard drive?
[06:29] <xphaqtor> my wireless isn't working as well
[06:29] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: that's cool ;)
[06:29] <deepsa> Nergar: paste the crash report please on the paste site in /topic
[06:29] <NickGarvey> !pm | guitrokr
[06:29] <ubotu> guitrokr: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[06:29] <drfrog666> can anyone help me w FF7.04 atiX1400 install?
[06:29] <labanux> crimsun : i've tried that.. but using the beta version.. I've compiled and install everything, alsa-driver, lib, utils, etc.. But it still didn't work at all..
[06:29] <deepsa> xphaqtor: don't say not working tell the problem exact problem
[06:30] <deepsa> xphaqtor: with error messages
[06:30] <Frog29> Diabolix - again... ?
[06:30] <crimsun> labanux: argh, you completely messed up Ubuntu's audio infrastructure
[06:30] <s0undt3ch> drfrog666: we're on the same boat
[06:30] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: seems from the bot that I should just wait and see when the servers are not under such heavy attack :)
[06:30] <diabolix> Frog29: there should be a section titled "Section "Device"" and it should have a driver line.
[06:30] <xphaqtor> well, it recognizes the card, but that's as far i can get
[06:30] <Whiz2> I'm using my Kubuntu computer as a dedicated web server, and I have some php pages on it. one of the features of the php pages is php mail. is there a special module or configuration i need to set in order for php mail to work? (I'm using a dapper release)
[06:30] <s0undt3ch> drfrog666: what's your machine?
[06:30] <sizzam> i'm using Feisty, should /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny exist on a fresh install?
[06:30] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: yea, it takes forever to pull down anything
[06:30] <Frog29> Diabolix - yea.... all it has is Generic Monitor so what shoudl  ichange it to?
[06:30] <Draconicus> deepsa: Well that's interesting. Either there was an invisible instance of Synaptic or it was labeling both the Synaptic main window and error window. Either way, it showed two different windows with very different owners, but one was created by root, while the other was in gksu, so it's still plausably the first. I'll try reloading again.
[06:30] <marvinalone> hmm, the day after the release might not be a good time to ask in-depth questions here ;-)
[06:30] <crimsun> labanux: please reinstall linux-sound-base, alsa-base, libasound2, alsa-utils, and linux-image-$(uname -r)
[06:30] <xphaqtor> it acknowledges that its there, i've installed the drivers using ndis, but im not even getting a power led on the card
[06:30] <BlackDalek> Ug! me no can add server to ntp server list. bad bad server list make good new ntp server vanish! how me fix? Ug! etc...
[06:30] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: that might be why I get server timeouts?
[06:30] <diabolix> Frog29: search for "vesa" in the file.
[06:30] <s0undt3ch> drfrog666: mine is a LG P1 Express Pro
[06:31] <noesis> have not  install 7.04 yet but digg seems to be  harping on it , what is wrong with this verson
[06:31] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: wouldnt be surprised
[06:31] <deepsa> Draconicus: well man when u do a fresh install update manager runs in the background
[06:31] <diabolix> Frog29: you can hit ctrl-F to search.
[06:31] <wideback> does anyone know how i can find out what wireless driver im using?
[06:31] <Draconicus> deepsa: That's a pain in the ass. You should disable that.
[06:31] <NickGarvey> !info libapache2-mod-php5 | Whiz2
[06:31] <ubotu> whiz2: libapache2-mod-php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2 module). In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2470 kB, installed size 5588 kB
[06:31] <unikuser> crimsun: did you try a reboot?
[06:31] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: guess I'll wait a few days then :)...see you round mate
[06:31] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: but feisty is nice as all get out
[06:31] <labanux> crimsun: btw, i've remove all of that package i've installed manually, then I reinstall what just told me.., but it still didn't worked.
[06:31] <Draconicus> deepsa: It'll confuse the hell out of new users.
[06:31] <deepsa> Draconicus: we will in gusty okay man
[06:31] <mjbrooks> noesis, the question you should be asking is what's wrong with digg
[06:31] <wideback> does anyone know how i can find out what wireless driver im using?
[06:31] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: sounds good...not too buggy?
[06:31] <Nergar> deepsa, never mind, its working now
[06:31] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: i been runnin it since begining of beta, no problems at all
[06:31] <Frog29> Diabolix - k...
[06:31] <deepsa> wideback: lsmod
[06:31] <deepsa> Nergar: okay
[06:31] <commonlyUNIQU3> please HELP!  how do I activate a PCMCIA wifi card?  I can see it with lcpci (it shows up as an Ethernet Controller)
[06:32] <bambi1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16489/
[06:32] <wideback> deepsa:thanks
[06:32] <Frog29> Diabolix - i know things in general... just not ubuntu ;)
[06:32] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: sounds wonderful....
[06:32] <bambi1> thats what it says aftering type sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:32] <Draconicus> Feisty in the beta (this machine) has so much promise. I hope it doesn't turn out to be another Edgy with this fresh install on my client's machine.
[06:32] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: lspci -v please paste output at http://pastebin.ca
[06:32] <deepsa> wideback: np
[06:32] <diabolix> Frog29: sorry.. i deel with windows converts alot.
[06:32] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: but guess I should be going to work :) - have a nice day/night!
[06:32] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: it may have that atheros card in the restricted drivers
[06:32] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: yea i need to get to bed
[06:32] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: ok, hang on...
[06:32] <diabolix> Frog29: change "vesa" to "nv" and save it. then hit ctrl-alt-backspace.
[06:33] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: sure i am on
[06:33] <Whiz2> ubotu: I'm assuming that means i need to install this mod using adept, or apt-get?
[06:33] <dxdemetriou> when finish getting the packages for feisty it can't continue and says that rhythmbox have md5 fail. how can this be?
[06:33] <Frog29> Diabolix - ( i am a windows convert :) )
[06:33] <zxagent> good night
[06:33] <mjbrooks> diabolix, yeah, but that's a good thing if you think about it
[06:33] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: it should run ok with the madwifi are they included?
[06:33] <Whiz2> oops
[06:33] <BlackDalek> am I connected?
[06:33] <zcat[1] > Draconicus, test it first! I wouldn't install something for someone else that I hadn't run for a week myself first...
[06:33] <Frog29> Diabolix - done
[06:33] <guitrokr> ummmmmmmmmmmm ok i just downloaded gaim specifically to get into this support group and ask my question in real time, but it just gets ignored everytime
[06:33] <deepsa> dxdemetriou: bad download re-download
[06:33] <diabolix> mjbrooks: true.. true..
[06:33] <s0undt3ch> ubuntu does not ship the atheros driver?
[06:33] <s0undt3ch> EverythingEvil2: ubuntu does not ship the atheros driver?
[06:33] <Frog29> Diabolix - SWEET!
[06:33] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: i dont know about wifi, if its a major restricted driver it shoudl, theres probably a list somewhere
[06:33] <rellik_> guitrokr, you downloaded gaim to get onto IRC?
[06:33] <guitrokr> yes
[06:33] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: hehe...it's sorta cool...here its 06:33 AM :) but sleep tight when you get there :)
[06:34] <BlackDalek> how do I install bollox?
[06:34] <Draconicus> zcat[1] : I'm quite skilled now at making the beta run, as is evidenced in this machine, so I'm not really worried. I just expected less bugs after all that testing and after such stability when I installed this beta.
[06:34] <mjbrooks> guitrokr, as you may have noticed, we're pretty busy
[06:34] <dxdemetriou> deepsa, I tried it many times to redo the upgrade. maybe I'll put manually the file to archives
[06:34] <Frog29> Diabolix - now the question is...... are those the drivers fulyl isntalled? or only partly?
[06:34] <s0undt3ch> EverythingEvil2: is that why my gigabit is detected but not loaded?
[06:34] <guitrokr> is it always like this?
[06:34] <diabolix> Frog29: cool.. now it you want 3d install the official driver and change that line to "nvidia".. but at least its more usuable for now...
[06:34] <nothlit> guitrokr: you haven't actually asked your question
[06:34] <deepsa> dxdemetriou: repos slow today
[06:34] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: sounds like I should just try :)
[06:34] <nothlit> !anyone | guitrokr
[06:34] <Frog29> Diabolix - aka can it do 3-d things or scroll smoothly
[06:34] <ubotu> guitrokr: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:34] <guitrokr> prior to this
[06:34] <milage> Is the "Shared Folders" control panel in the administration menu supposed to work?
[06:34] <Gumby> guitrokr: sometimes you have to ask your question multiple times as either there are not enough people to answer or no one that is able to answer actually knows the answer
[06:34] <milage> I can't seem to make it work at least
[06:34] <deepsa> dxdemetriou: possibility that you get bad downloads for a while we are on that
[06:34] <nomasteryoda> deepsa, lol for sure
[06:34] <BlackDalek> can i ask a question?
[06:34] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: madwifi had some issues i read last week
[06:34] <Frog29> Diabolix - well this will work for now  - at least till i can get intenret to do sudo get for the drivers
[06:34] <diabolix> Frog29: you are using the open source driver.. its good enough for regular use, but not 3d.
[06:34] <milage> So it would be nice of someone in here has any idea how to use it
[06:34] <nomasteryoda> Black_, ask, don't ask to ask
[06:34] <EverythingEvil2> kerik: hopefully they are patch so its secure
[06:34] <nomasteryoda> er sorry
[06:34] <NewbieBaba> hello - where can i find md5 checksum for ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386
[06:35] <deepsa> BlackDalek: don't ask to ask just ask
[06:35] <nomasteryoda> BlackDalek,
[06:35] <carypro> Hey all
[06:35] <pibarnas> how can I install gnome-compiz-manager in feisty?!?
[06:35] <kerik> EverythingEvil2: hmmm...I'll check it out...yeah a patch would be nice
[06:35] <deepsa> NewbieBaba: www.ubuntu.com
[06:35] <Black_> nomasteryoda: what?
[06:35] <kerik> bye for now
[06:35] <dc> If i install using the disk, will it leave my files intact?
[06:35] <dxdemetriou> deepsa, his is because there is traffic?
[06:35] <deepsa> kerik: bye
[06:35] <nomasteryoda> wrong Black_ ...
[06:35] <Black_> lol
[06:35] <zcat[1] > just had some curry, I am really sweating now!
[06:35] <NewbieBaba> exact link please?
[06:35] <rellik_> guitrokr, IRC can be kind of hit or miss.. if no one answers either no one knows or no one noticed..  you just gotta be polite and keep asking.. a lot of times you'll get the help you need, sometimes you just gotta come back and try again
[06:35] <Black_> l
[06:35] <deepsa> dxdemetriou: yeah alot
[06:35] <diabolix> hmm... yeah video configuration is definitely ubuntu's week point.
[06:35] <Black_> k
[06:35] <nomasteryoda> ubuntu still rocks
[06:35] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:35] <deepsa> nomasteryoda: ;)
[06:35] <s0undt3ch> just tell if I'm wrong, no one see's my messages?
[06:35] <BlackDalek> does ntp servers even work?
[06:35] <carypro> I would like to download Ubuntu 7.04 but not sure which version is 64 bit for Intel Core2 Duo?
[06:35] <guitrokr> i just want to know if a beginner to can install the fiesty version to their external hard drive, without having to do alot of typing codes and junk
[06:35] <deepsa> s0undt3ch: everybody sees
[06:35] <s0undt3ch> ok
[06:36] <s0undt3ch> just to know
[06:36] <deepsa> carypro: core2 duo is 64bit
[06:36] <s0undt3ch> then no one knows the answer
[06:36] <diabolix> carypro: i recomend the 32 bt version myself..
[06:36] <dc> If i install using the disk, will it leave my files intact?
[06:36] <Frog29> Diabolix - thanks
[06:36] <BlackDalek> can I ask why adding ntp servers does nto work?
[06:36] <ap1> How do I install Skype on Edgy?
[06:36] <deepsa> s0undt3ch: whats the question fire again
[06:36] <diabolix> carypro: i386
[06:36] <pibarnas> how can I install gnome-compiz-manager in feisty?!?
[06:36] <diabolix> Frog29: no problem.
[06:36] <Frog29> Diabolix - any chance you could help me with my wireless?
[06:36] <deepsa> BlackDalek: what error you getting
[06:36] <carypro> Thanks
[06:36] <diabolix> Frog29: what card?
[06:36] <deepsa> pibarnas: use the synaptic
[06:36] <anticlockwise> ap1: Just add the source and apt-get install
[06:36] <crimsun> unikuser: what?
[06:37] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: I have a gigabit lan card detected acroding to lspci but if config shows it wasn't configured
[06:37] <BlackDalek> deepsa: i get no error.. the server I add just vanishes every time.
[06:37] <mjbrooks> ap1, I believe you can download a .deb from the skype website
[06:37] <Whiz2> My installation of libapache2-mod-php5 is the most current version, but my php mail isn't working. (No one receives mail sent through php mail at all) can someone tel me what i need to do to configure it to work properly?
[06:37] <diabolix> Frog29: built in to the laptop?
[06:37] <ap1> anticlockwise, Which source for Skype?
[06:37] <crimsun> labanux: then reinstall Ubuntu 7.04, please.
[06:37] <s0undt3ch> s/if config/ifconfig
[06:37] <carypro> Anyone have any idea if a Hauppauge HVR 1600 card drivers are out yet?
[06:37] <Frog29> Diabolix - yea - compaq laptop withbroadcom
[06:37] <guitrokr>  i just want to know if a beginner to can install the fiesty version to their external hard drive, without having to do alot of typing codes and junk
[06:37] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: the is a LG P1 Express laptop
[06:37] <deepsa> s0undt3ch: use ifconfig to set a ip for it
[06:37] <diabolix> Frog29: do you happen to have the windows driver on a cd?
[06:37] <Frog29> Diabolix - it recognizes the card and all but onder the connection settings it says disconnected
[06:37] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: I get that from companny dhcp
[06:37] <anticlockwise> ap1: The source is on skype's home page, I'm sorry I kind of forgot, I'll have check
[06:37] <rellik_> I bet the torrent downloaders are getting super-fast speeds
[06:37] <crimsun> labanux: you've effectively munged the infrastructure to a point where it would take longer to attempt to repair it than to reinstall the entire distribution from scratch.
[06:37] <deepsa> s0undt3ch: paste lsmod please
[06:37] <diabolix> Frog29: hmmm.. are you near an access point?
[06:38] <airmikey> running 64 bit fiesta not able to play dvd movie
[06:38] <zxagent> I've got a severe problem,scim launcher expection.
[06:38] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: well, I should get them
[06:38] <somerandomname> rellik not really
[06:38] <dc> If i install using the disk, will it leave my files intact?
[06:38] <deepsa> s0undt3ch: what manufacturer. sure i am waiting on it
[06:38] <SuperLag> Any of you done an upgrade from CD?
[06:38] <guitrokr>  i just want to know if a beginner to can install the fiesty version to their external hard drive, without having to do alot of typing codes and junk
[06:38] <zcat[1] > rellik, I left the torrent running last night. about 15gb of traffic by this morning
[06:38] <somerandomname> rellik i take that back it went up a lot 440kb/s
[06:38] <Frog29> Diabolix - no but i have intenret on my dekstop (this) and i dual boot windows which can acess linux and visa versa
[06:38] <deepsa> guitrokr: yeah sure
[06:38] <k-edgy> hello
[06:38] <Tarkus> is there a program that comes with ubuntu for me to burn .iso images to a disk?
[06:38] <Frog29> Diabolix - windows has working internet
[06:38] <grim4593> hi
[06:38] <deepsa> k-edgy: hello
[06:38] <rellik_> somerandomname, wow  I may download it just to see that
[06:38] <k-edgy> i cant update
[06:38] <dc> Tarkus: right click on the iso, burn to disk
[06:38] <SuperLag> Tarkus: cdrecord
[06:38] <guitrokr> if i partition my external with partition magic will i lose my files?
[06:38] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: LG, athera(gigabit)
[06:38] <deepsa> Tarkus: k3b?
[06:38] <dc> If i install using the disk, will it leave my files intact?
[06:38] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: it's up
[06:38] <k-edgy> it says GPG error
[06:39] <zcat[1] > Tarkus, right-click on the iso and select burn to disk
[06:39] <Gumby> tarelerulz: you can install k3b.  its probably one of the best burning programs you'll ever use
[06:39] <SuperLag> yes
[06:39] <RAOF> Tarkus: Yes.  Just right click on the .iso, and select "Burn to disk" :)
[06:39] <k-edgy> is ubuntu site down?
[06:39] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: http://pastebin.ca/449348
[06:39] <SuperLag> k3b++
[06:39] <Gumby> sorry, Tarkus
[06:39] <deepsa> dc: depends on what disk and partition it is
[06:39] <MockY> Tarkus: Right clocik the iso file and choos burn to disk
[06:39] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: i am on it
[06:39] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: I cant just paste you know, this is a diff machine, what exact are you looking for?
[06:39] <somerandomname> rellik_: i got over 800 on america's amry patch
[06:39] <dc> deepsa: i just downloaded the iso
[06:39] <Meshezabeel> k-edgy: works for me
[06:39] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: thank you
[06:39] <deepsa> s0undt3ch: lsmod
[06:39] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: np
[06:39] <trelayne2> guitrokr,  save your important stufff on another media before doing anything involving partitioning
[06:39] <mjbrooks> !php > Whiz2
[06:39] <Frog29> Diabolix - last time i tried connecting to the internet on LAN / ethernet i had problems but thatt was 6.10
[06:39] <dc> deepsa: and i let ubuntu setup my partitions
[06:39] <bamb1> sorry, i got disconnected
[06:39] <deepsa> dc: manual partition i prefer its safer
[06:39] <k-edgy> well, it stuck at edgy-updates
[06:39] <deepsa> bamb1 no problem
[06:40] <bamb1> did anyone get my paste link?
[06:40] <guitrokr> is there high likelihood of losing my data, because i have alot and nobody has another external large enough to store my data
[06:40] <Meshezabeel> k-edgy: if you are trying to download isos use a torrent, it will be done much faster than downloading from a mirror
[06:40] <diabolix> Frog29: hmm.. i dunno. i've never had a problem with wired internet...
[06:40] <dc> deepsa: how would you tell me to do it than?
[06:40] <k-edgy> tells me its a GPG error
[06:40] <umop> I have a blank ext3 partition and would like to add it onto another ext3 partiton, can I do this?
[06:40] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: that card should work out of box
[06:40] <k-edgy> no
[06:40] <deepsa> dc: manual partitions
[06:40] <trelayne2> wired internet sucks anyway... too many lost bees
[06:40] <k-edgy> i'm trying to update using apt-get
[06:40] <trelayne2> I mean wireless
[06:40] <dc> deepsa: i have 6.10 already, i want 7.04 and to leave my home folder and programs intact
[06:40] <BlackDalek> has anyone EVER been able to add an ntp server to the ntp server list? deleting them works fine.. I jut can't ADD any. what's up? Is anyone able to add ntp servers at all?
[06:40] <Hasrat_USA> damn where is the dude who post some kinda bug release report in launchpad? his site kept me busy for over three hours! the bug and the relevant sites are overwhelming!
[06:40] <k-edgy> just a normal edgy update
[06:40] <Frog29> Diabolix - it may work now.... but either way i'll jsut get wireless working and be done with it.. it may even be my network ethernet card......
[06:40] <k-edgy> sudo apt-get update
[06:40] <deepsa> dc: it will just choose manual and select a free partition (free means empty)
[06:41] <Meshezabeel> !slow | k-edgy
[06:41] <ubotu> k-edgy: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[06:41] <zcat[1] > guitrokr, buy a cheap, small drive for linux. Install with nothing else plugged in. You can't go wrong that way..
[06:41] <diabolix> Frog29: well.. if you aren't connected to a network.. it should say disconnected.
[06:41] <k-edgy> owh
[06:41] <k-edgy> no wonder
[06:41] <k-edgy> hehe
[06:41] <dc> deepsa: what?  why mess with partitions when doing an os upgrade?
[06:41] <guitrokr> what if im poor, haha
[06:41] <zxul767> hey, what happened to the beryl channel?
[06:41] <anticlockwise> ap1: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ This is the source you add to get skype
[06:41] <diabolix> Frog29: is the ethernet plugged in to the laptop?
[06:41] <k-edgy> trying to update to feisty too
[06:41] <Frog29> Diabolix - no
[06:41] <guitrokr> i really can't afford a new drive
[06:41] <k-edgy> damn.. i'm late
[06:41] <BlackDalek> and why doesn't copy/pste work in gaim?
[06:41] <deepsa> dc: well if you want your data to be safe then take a backup
[06:41] <BlackDalek> paste
[06:41] <diabolix> Frog29: do you have a cable internet?
[06:41] <bamb1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16489/
[06:41] <Tarkus> MockY, RAOF, zcat[1] , dc: haha, thanks. thats easy enough :D
[06:41] <mjbrooks> !enter | k-edgy
[06:41] <ubotu> k-edgy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:41] <Hasrat_USA> I'm downloading fine here. it's downloaded 532 files so far
[06:41] <Frog29> Diabolix - yes....... but i an't talk at the same time
[06:41] <zcat[1] > guitrokr, you can't afford to lose data either?
[06:41] <bamb1> i'm trying to install xchat
[06:41] <deepsa> BlackDalek: it works
[06:41] <Frog29> *can't
[06:41] <anticlockwise> BlackDalek: it works
[06:41] <guitrokr> well i could, it would suck alot
[06:42] <dc> deepsa: backup has been done, it gets done regularly, but i want to know if there is a way to avoid having to reload data
[06:42] <guitrokr> i could copy the essentials but not the big files like movies
[06:42] <labanux> crimsun: i've already think about that.., that's why i'm downloading the feisty iso right now..., i just wondering maybe it can be fixed without re-install the OS..
[06:42] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: I know, that was my experience in Edgy, but now - NOTHING!  I'm confused
[06:42] <diabolix> Frog29: i know.. but you might want to try resetting you're cable modem before plugging in your laptop.
[06:42] <Flannel> bamb1: xchat-gnome is in main, you'll need to enable universe to get "xchat"
[06:42] <k-edgy> !slow
[06:42] <deepsa> dc: i said how to do that earlier
[06:42] <ubotu> The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[06:42] <BlackDalek> what works? ntp or copy/paste?
[06:42] <zcat[1] > guitrokr, the risk is fairly low anyhow..
[06:42] <dc> deepsa: edit my partition table?
[06:42] <BlackDalek> I can make neither work
[06:42] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: how you set the ip using ifconfig? network tools not working for you
[06:42] <diabolix> Frog29: do "ifconfig -a" on a terminal, and see if it lists a device called "eth0"
[06:42] <trelayne2> Frog29,  are you using dhcp?
[06:42] <k-edgy> !Feisty
[06:42] <ubotu> FEISTY IS OUT! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - Torrent downloads at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ - Metalinks (use with Aria2 or, under Windows, GetRight) at http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/
[06:42] <Hasrat_USA> labanux what's your original problem?
[06:42] <deepsa> dc: just tell feisty which partition to get installed on
[06:42] <Frog29> Diabolix - its wierd though... some commands i tried earlier had a lot of messages saying netowrk is down in relationship to my wireless connector (eth1)
[06:42] <milage> Hi. Does anyone know if the graphical SMB configuration tool in Ubuntu 6.10 is supposed to work right out of the box? If it doesn't, what do I need to change manually?
[06:42] <labanux> crimsun: so, it seems no other solution.. Thanx for your help anyway.. :D
[06:43] <guitrokr> so i could in theory nudge the existing primary partition to the right and let the installer create a partition in the newly unallocated space within the 1024 cylinder boundary?
[06:43] <Frog29> trelayne1 - yes
[06:43] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: I just finished a clean install and tried to sudo ifup wlan0
[06:43] <toddian> Hi, I'm having a problem installing feisty fawn; my computer uses SATA and it won't read install cds
[06:43] <Frog29> trelayne2 - yes
[06:43] <Meshezabeel> k-edgy: download the iso from torrent and update from there if you want your update fast, make sure you get the right iso for updates though
[06:43] <bur[n] e1> milage: you just need to run "sudo smbpasswd -a user" to add a samba user
[06:43] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: that device seems a wired lan
[06:43] <zcat[1] > guitrokr, one thing you do need to do, shut down cleanly. If you accidentally boot windows again instead of the CD, let it boot fully and shut down again. If the windows filesystem isn't clean, the linux installer won't even try to resize it.
[06:43] <trelayne2> Frog29,  so what is the ouput of ifconfig?
[06:43] <dc> deepsa: i want it to install it on the same partition as fiesty...
[06:43] <diabolix> Frog29: from the command line, try running "dhclient eth0" after you connect it.
[06:43] <Tarkus> is it good to burn at maximum speed (iso image). or is it better to do slower?
[06:43] <slop> slow ftw
[06:43] <milage> where "user" would be the name of the user, i suppose
[06:43] <Frog29> Diabolix - the command lists eth1 and eth0 ... but no ips for the wirless eth1
[06:43] <dc> Tarkus: depends on the media, slow is more accurate
[06:43] <Madpilot> Tarkus, slower
[06:43] <deepsa> dc: well then i guess you don't have any option data will be formatted
[06:43] <milage> Where would I specify the password?
[06:43] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: I also tried ifup eth0, still no result...
[06:43] <zcat[1] > Tarkus, I recommend 16x or slower
[06:43] <labanux> Hasrat_USA : my sound card didn't work with alsa..  but it works with OSS
[06:43] <guitrokr> duly noted
[06:44] <umop> I have a blank ext3 partition and would like to add it onto another ext3 partiton, can I do this?
[06:44] <Tarkus> alright, ill do 16x then, thanks
[06:44] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: sudo ifconfig eht0 up
[06:44] <Frog29> Diabolix - is it possible to just try and get wireless wrokign for now?
[06:44] <Hasrat_USA> labanux oh and what's your soundcard?
[06:44] <guitrokr> and then should grub go on the external too?
[06:44] <deepsa> umop: you can use gparted but i don't prefer it to newbies
[06:44] <dc> deepsa: so the only way to update and save data is through package manager?
[06:44] <zcat[1] > some people say 4x but that's a bit too slow for me :)
[06:44] <labanux> Hasrat_USA : hda intel..
[06:44] <diabolix> Frog29: its hard to say without an access point.
[06:44] <trelayne2> commonlyUNIQU3,  do /etc/int.d/networ<something> stop                 then do it again with "start"
[06:44] <joeljkp> i need the package xlibs for yahoo's messenger to install, any ideas?
[06:44] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: no such device
[06:44] <commonlyUNIQU3> hmm
[06:44] <k-edgy> how do i add feisty ISO in the repositories list?
[06:44] <deepsa> dc: yeah apt-get dist upgrade
[06:44] <crimsun> Hasrat_USA: he needs to start with a fresh slate.
[06:44] <Frog29> Diabolix - why sepcifically?
[06:44] <bamb1> deepsa may I.
[06:44] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: device is not up that's why i told you to send lsmod via paste
[06:45] <milage> allright bur[n] e1
[06:45] <trelayne2> oops sorry /etc/init.d/network<something> stop
[06:45] <labanux> Hasrat_USA : eventough it works with OSS, I think it's a nightmare to run any mixer from console..
[06:45] <deepsa> bamb1: yeah wasup man
[06:45] <milage> seems like it worked
[06:45] <umop> deepsa, How do i do it in gparted?  I had a look around and really could not find how to combnie them.
[06:45] <diabolix> Frog29: the fact that it lists the device means it found the driver for it, but it doesn't have a network to connect to.
[06:45] <munkymunkyman> hello
[06:45] <milage> I think there should be an option to do that with the GUi tool
[06:45] <deepsa> umop: well i don't prefer gparted for you
[06:45] <deepsa> munkymunkyman: hi
[06:45] <munkymunkyman> how do install glib2.0
[06:45] <k-edgy> how do i add feisty ISO in the repositories list?
[06:45] <labanux> Hasrat_USA : i must using ossmix from command line to adjust or reduce the volume level..
[06:45] <milage> And yeah, tested
[06:45] <bamb1> deepsa i wanna install xchat on my ubuntu
[06:45] <deepsa> munkymunkyman: we use a gui call synaptic and search glib there and install it
[06:45] <umop> deepsa, So you don't know how to do it?
[06:45] <munkymunkyman> everytime i do aptitude install glib2.0 it down grades it
[06:45] <milage> Thanks bur[n] e1, it worked
[06:45] <deepsa> bamb1: then what's the problem
[06:45] <Frog29> Diabolix - i've given it a netowkr to connect to for the wireless.... but it still hasn't sent any packets
[06:46] <bamb1> i dont know how to
[06:46] <diabolix> Frog29: with feisty?
[06:46] <bamb1> i'm new to it
[06:46] <bamb1> lol
[06:46] <BlackDalek> I restarted gaim and now copy paste works again. Is copy/paste functionality locking up like that a special feature of gaim which requires a program restart?
[06:46] <Frog29> Diabolix - it seems as if it isn't even trying with feisty
[06:46] <Meshezabeel> k-edgy: don't think you can add iso directly to the repository, but if you burn it to a cd you can add the cd, there is also a way you can mount an iso, but that's beyond me
[06:46] <deepsa> umop: i know but i guess you don't know and that's why i don't want to let you know. but if you want then you can apt-get gparted
[06:46] <trelayne2> Frog29,  can you do a traceroute ?
[06:46] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: I can't paste cuz it's on an old laptop and no internet connection w/o wireless...  what module am I looking for?
[06:46] <Madpilot> bamb1, use Add/Remove Apps, search for xchat
[06:46] <munkymunkyman> why does it down grade
[06:46] <diabolix> Frog29: it wont send packets until it has a network.
[06:46] <bamb1> ok
[06:46] <Frog29> trelayne1 - ok......
[06:46] <toddian> does anyone know how I could install 7.04 without using install cds, or how to get a weird sata bios to recognize boot cds? And yes, I set it up to boot from cd first
[06:46] <Frog29> *2
[06:46] <munkymunkyman> or does someone know a decent p2p so i dont have to compile giftcurs
[06:46] <billy> I keep reading about an /opt directory, yet I don't seem to have one.  Should I simply create one?
[06:47] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: lsmod | grep 81
[06:47] <BlackDalek> back to my question re: ntp servers.. anyone made any progress with that yet?
[06:47] <kernel06> airlink wireless mimo pcmcia recognizes bY ubuntu but doesn't connect. my card is rt2600.
[06:47] <Frog29> Diabolix - i don't think its even trying to connect to the network though
[06:47] <umop> deepsa, Gparted does not do what i want.  If it does please tell me what I'm doing wrong.
[06:47] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16492/
[06:47] <munkymunkyman> anyone?
[06:47] <deepsa> s0undt3ch: i am on it
[06:47] <Meshezabeel> BlackDalek: do you know where I can get a disused yeti?
[06:47] <diabolix> Frog29: it wont try unless it finds one first.
[06:47] <trelayne2> Frog29,  what is your IP address?
[06:47] <mjbrooks> toddian, does it not boot from it at all or is it getting stuck?
[06:47] <deepsa> umop: if you want to merge two ext3 partitions without deleting?
[06:47] <BlackDalek> can anyone even confirm whether adding of ntp servers is even possible?
[06:48] <Frog29> trelayne2 - ummmmmmm
[06:48] <Madpilot> billy, /opt is in your / (root) directory
[06:48] <deepsa> BlackDalek: it is but i don't know what happening there
[06:48] <diabolix> Frog29: run "iwlist eth1 scan" as root.
[06:48] <k-edgy> thanx Meshezabeel
[06:48] <Frog29> trelayne2 - it hasn't connected to anything
[06:48] <k-edgy> :D
[06:48] <toddian> mjbrooks: doesn't boot at all, doesn't recognize the cds
[06:48] <umop> deepsa, yeah.
[06:48] <toddian> *cd
[06:48] <Meshezabeel> k-edgy: np :)
[06:48] <diabolix> Frog29: "sudo iwlist eth1 scan"
[06:48] <dc> My updater has been stuck in the same place for hours now, is this still normal?!
[06:48] <umop> deepsa, One partition is completely blank, i want to add it to another partition
[06:48] <Frog29> no scanning supported
[06:48] <mjbrooks> toddian, so it just goes through a regular boot or is it giving an error?
[06:48] <deepsa> s0undt3ch: i forgot what i was suppose to look in it? can you tell once more
[06:48] <Frog29> Diabolix - no scanning supported
[06:49] <toddian> if u set it to only boot from cds it gives an error, otherwise it goes through regular boot
[06:49] <deepsa> umop: well not possible if it's not gparted no in-built tools there to do that
[06:49] <diabolix> Frog29: "run ifconfig eth1 up" and then try the scan again.
[06:49] <Rictoo> whenever using apt-get update, it gets stuck at 99%
[06:49] <Rictoo> =/
[06:49] <BlackDalek> Meshezabeel: try #greatintelligence_bootsale ?
[06:49] <deepsa> !slow > Rictoo
[06:49] <mjbrooks> toddian, might be a bad CD
[06:49] <billy> Madpilot, naw, man.  it isn't.  what's up?
[06:49] <Rictoo> deepsa: What?
[06:49] <deCon> do i NEED to backup my /home if it has its own partition while upgrading to Feisty
[06:49] <Frog29> Diabolix - using sudo ifconfig eth1 up it says no such file
[06:49] <toddian> mjbrooks: naw, thats the thing, I tried it in my housemates computer and it worked there
[06:49] <deepsa> !slow | Rictoo
[06:49] <ubotu> Rictoo: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[06:49] <umop> deepsa, I dont understand some of what you are saying.  Are you saying that Gparted will do what I want?
[06:49] <mjbrooks> toddian, have you tried booting that CD on another system?
[06:49] <Meshezabeel> BlackDalek: thanks :p
[06:49] <billy> deCon, always a good idea.  :_
[06:49] <deepsa> umop: yeah
[06:50] <deCon> billy, where to ?
[06:50] <Rictoo> oh
[06:50] <mjbrooks> toddian, hmm
[06:50] <Rictoo> I see :)
[06:50] <umop> deepsa, okay, guess i'll try again
[06:50] <deepsa> Rictoo: ;)
[06:50] <diabolix> Frog29: try "iwlist eth0 scan"
[06:50] <deCon> billy, necessary...or can i squeeze through
[06:50] <toddian> mjbrooks: I had the same problem with windows boot cds, but I thought I'd switch to linux cuz I'm sick of spyware
[06:50] <billy> deCon, to a DVD.  :)
[06:50] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: http://pastebin.ca/449357
[06:50] <deepsa> umop: sure tell me if you get it don i will be glad to know
[06:50] <mjbrooks> toddian, I don't blame ya ;)
[06:50] <Frog29> Diabolix - no scanning supported
[06:50] <deCon> billy, will it overwrite it?
[06:50] <mjbrooks> toddian, is it a laptop?
[06:50] <Madpilot> billy, you'll need to make sure all your repositories are enabled - Xchat is in Universe
[06:50] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: how you got that?
[06:50] <billy> deCon, just be really sure to read everything carefully, as in, don't tell it to format /home.  :)
[06:50] <diabolix> Frog29: run iwconfig.. and see if all devices are missing wireless extensions...
[06:50] <acidtabs> what program was it to stream music for exp: shoutcast
[06:50] <toddian> mjbrooks: nope, it's an asus a7n mobo with amd64 and sata hd
[06:51] <nonuda> !bad device
[06:51] <deCon> billy, i had a feeling it would be smart. Yay Ubuntu!
[06:51] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[06:51] <munkymunkyman> anyone know why when i do "aptitude install glib2.0" it suggest a downgrade and thats the only way it will let me install?
[06:51] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: by "lsmod | grep 81"
[06:51] <billy> deCon, no.  it won't be overwritten.  It's smart, but you have to tell it that /media/sda2 is to be mounted on /home.
[06:51] <Frog29> Diabolix - eth1 has actual tuff after it
[06:51] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: you don't have this module loaded 8139too ?
[06:51] <mjbrooks> toddian, lemme see if I can find anything with that config
[06:51] <Madpilot> munkymunkyman, where did you get your current glib2.0 from?
[06:51] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: ???  you lost me
[06:51] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16494/
[06:51] <Frog29> Diabolix - the essid nickname mode managed access point invalid
[06:52] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: sudo modprobe 8139too
[06:52] <billy> Madpilot, Xchat?
[06:52] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: I can't get the gibabit to fetch from dhcp
[06:52] <deepsa> s0undt3ch: let me see
[06:52] <diabolix> Frog29: weird.. i guess you can't scan for networks.. when you have a wired network available you might want to look into ndiswrapper. it lets you use the windows driver in linux.
[06:52] <deCon> billy, qua? why sda2?
[06:52] <function1> if i change my apt sources does that effect where the updates in the update manager come from? (i.e. can i use a mirror to upgrade to feisty??)
[06:52] <Madpilot> billy, sorry, wrong person. :) /opt is in Root - which the file manager in Ubuntu called File System
[06:52] <Frog29> Diabolix - k - where woudl i get the driver though?
[06:53] <darwin> Is there a bittorrent client for Ubuntu that's as good as utorrent?
[06:53] <diabolix> Frog29: did youre pc come with a drivers cd?
[06:53] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: Ethernet controller: Agere Systems ET-131x PCI-E Ethernet Controller (rev 02) <- this b*tch
[06:53] <toddian> mjbrooks: cheers, the exact config is asus a7n, amd64 3000+, 1gb ram, 40gb ide hd as C:, 200gb SATA hd as D:
[06:53] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: it accepted "sudo modprobe 8139too"
[06:53] <munkymunkyman> anyone know why when i do "aptitude install glib2.0" it suggest a downgrade and thats the only way it will let me install?
[06:53] <Frog29> Diabolix - nope but windows is installed
[06:53] <deepsa> s0undt3ch: module for your card aint loaded
[06:53] <Shrimpy_> IndyGunFreak: hey hey
[06:53] <Meshezabeel> darwin: azureus
[06:53] <Frog29> Diabolix - and it came with a recovery partition
[06:53] <function1> darwin: ive learned to live with azureus
[06:53] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: now proceed sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[06:53] <toddian> mjbrooks: no floppy, only a dvd burner
[06:53] <billy> deCon, well, honestly that was only an example.  it may read something different.  but you need to know the device name of your /home partition.  sudo fdisk -l in terminal.
[06:53] <diabolix> Frog29: maybe youre manufacturer has a support site with drivers?
[06:53] <function1> darwin: ive heard good things about deluge too. havent tried it.
[06:54] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: yeah, that was for 6.10, does feisty provide it? I had similar problems
[06:54] <Frog29> Diabolix - i hoep so.......
[06:54] <deepsa> s0undt3ch: yeah feisty provides it
[06:54] <billy> Madpilot, :)  I'm sorry dude.   /opt really, truly honestly isn't there.  Can I post a screenshot somewhere?
[06:54] <deepsa> s0undt3ch: have you problems with feisty too man? same problem?
[06:54] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: ok, I'll go into live cd and try to re-grab info
[06:54] <acidtabs> is there a program that would alow you to stream shoutcast radio station?
[06:54] <Frog29> Diabolix - but can i just take a fiel from windows?
[06:54] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: "eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[06:54] <Madpilot> billy, sure, but I don't know why it's missing. Is this a clean install of Ubuntu?
[06:54] <diabolix> Frog29: if you know where it is...
[06:54] <darwin> function1: Azureus never worked right for me. I've had a better experience running utorrent under wine.
[06:54] <billy> Madpilot, yes.
[06:54] <Shrimpy_> can somebody tell me the command line for the xorg config file. to adjust my screen res. thanks!
[06:54] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: lsmod | grep 8139too ?
[06:55] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: that one a also Xorg :) my laptop has a x1400
[06:55] <Frog29> Diabolix - what woudl the ending be?
[06:55] <diabolix> Frog29: i don't know too much about windows.
[06:55] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: that one and also Xorg :) my laptop has a x1400
[06:55] <deepsa> Shrimpy_: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:55] <function1> darwin: did it crash a lot?
[06:55] <darwin> no
[06:55] <Frog29> Diabolix - k
[06:55] <Shrimpy_> thanks deepsa
[06:55] <deCon> billy, you mean /dev/sda2 or media/sda2?
[06:55] <deepsa> Shrimpy_: np
[06:55] <diabolix> Frog29: you need a .sys file, and a .inf file. they usually have the same name.
[06:55] <billy> Shrimpy_, because root owns the file you have to prefix with sudo.  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:55] <Frog29> Diabolix - and? ok.... well let me go get intenret
[06:55] <darwin> function1: Just a little buggy
[06:55] <Meshezabeel> darwin, I would give Azureus another try, works great for me, and without getting into an argument, I'd say in some ways azureus is better than utorrent
[06:56] <deCon> i love azureus
[06:56] <jlowell> is metisse available for ubuntu?
[06:56] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: I'm now loading feity, I'll try to provide that info again
[06:56] <function1> azureus is much more feature rich, but utorrent is so lite and cute
[06:56] <ap1> My Laptop Intel WLAn chip seems to be off (IBM z69m) indicator light is off. Otherwise, iwconfig shows things seem to be partly ok, but no association. Should the indicator light be on also on Ubuntu? Or is it Windows controlled?
[06:56] <infinityxi> azureus was crapping out on me when it was using sun java 1.5. I had to set it to run on gij
[06:56] <deepsa> s0undt3ch: sure i'll be waiting
[06:56] <billy> deCon, by default, Feisty will want to mount your current /home partition to /media/sda2.  There will be a point int the install process when you will be able to change the mount point to /home.
[06:56] <alienseer23> Q: can anyone provide a link to upgrade features for fiesty?
[06:56] <darwin> Meshezabeel: Azureus has more features but more bloat and sometimes it won't start up at all
[06:56] <s0undt3ch> deepsa: k, Thanks
[06:56] <Shrimpy_> deepsa: i  know there is more of a ui one. do you happen to know it. like x-org somthing. sorry its been a while
[06:57] <function1> arg why does the world keep feisty from me
[06:57] <ccfiel> hello ppl.
[06:57] <bamb1> thanks for the help guys
[06:57] <bamb1> :)
[06:57] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: the output of "lsmod | grep 8139too" http://pastebin.ca/449365
[06:57] <bamb1> i'll be back
[06:57] <alienseer23> !fiesty
[06:57] <ubotu> FEISTY IS OUT! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - Torrent downloads at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ - Metalinks (use with Aria2 or, under Windows, GetRight) at http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/
[06:57] <deepsa> Shrimpy_: screen resolution
[06:57] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: okay let me see
[06:57] <Meshezabeel> darwin, never had a problem with it under ubuntu
[06:57] <mjbrooks> toddian, do you even get anything from the cd?
[06:57] <Shrimpy_> deepsa: yes
[06:57] <deepsa> Shrimpy_: no idea man
[06:57] <mjbrooks> toddian, like the menu?
[06:57] <crdlb> !upgrade | alienseer23
[06:57] <ubotu> alienseer23: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:57] <ccfiel> where can i find information nvidia video card that is supported with the restricted driver?
[06:57] <toddian> just an error message saying it was a non-system disc
[06:57] <infinityxi> 4 min remaining on my upgrade
[06:57] <toddian> seem to get that from any boot cd
[06:57] <crdlb> ccfiel, what card?
[06:57] <wm_eddie> Woah.  I can't access my CDrom drive WTF?
[06:57] <Shrimpy_> deepsa: thanks
[06:58] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: module is loaded it should now work try System > Administration > Network and configure the card
[06:58] <deepsa> Shrimpy_: np
[06:58] <crdlb> ccfiel, the restricted manager will do it for you though (in feisty)
[06:58] <deepsa> !language > wm_eddie
[06:58] <commonlyUNIQU3> deepsa: k, hang on
[06:58] <ccfiel> crdlb:  I am planning to buy one. coz my ATI is not supported  :)
[06:58] <darwin> Meshezabeel: I'll probably switch to deluge when it gets more features
[06:58] <deepsa> commonlyUNIQU3: okay
[06:58] <crdlb> ccfiel, what ati?
[06:58] <cyris> ubuntu locos arn't popular up here in canada eh?
[06:58] <cyris> i dont think there is one in my area, or even close to it :S
[06:58] <noname`> Anything else that's kind of fun to use on ubuntu; like beryl? (not a program like beryl, but fun like beryl)
[06:58] <cableroy> Is there a site with 7.04 upgrade problems? i upgraded yesterday but didn't boot correctly
[06:59] <Shrimpy_> IndyGunFreak: hey whats up
[06:59] <diabolix> noname`: doom 3?
[06:59] <crdlb> ccfiel, the full line is supported (from the TNT) but a FX or newer is a good idea
[06:59] <wm_eddie> I got !languaged for an F?
[06:59] <Meshezabeel> darwin: yup, good thing about having a number of different programs, different people have different tastes, and we can all choose the one we like best for ourselves :)
[06:59] <ubuntu> helllo
[06:59] <deepsa> ubuntu hi
[06:59] <deepsa> wm_eddie: yeah
[06:59] <ccfiel> cldlb: my present card is ATI 9250 and its not support with the restricted driver. so i want to buy a new video card and i want its supported with the restricted driver.? any idea?
[06:59] <ubuntu> doesn someone know how to use Yaird to create a initrd ?
[06:59] <wm_eddie> deepsa: Seriously?
[07:00] <deepsa> wm_eddie: you know that man
[07:00] <jd> hello...  I just installed Feisty but I can't see my USB drive when I plug it in.  Is there any bugs that have been heard of lately w/regard to this?
[07:00] <Shrimpy_> does any body know the command line to config xorg soemthing to get the screen resolution
[07:00] <ubuntu> I have just installed yaird, but I dont know how to create initrd with it
[07:00] <deCon> does anyone know about beryl compatibility with feisty? I have to reinstall all my apps and such after upgrade too, right?
[07:00] <umop> deepsa, Hmm, I still dont see where in gparted I can merge the partitions.
[07:00] <RAOF> ccfiel: Your card is supported with the open-source drivers.  Use them!
[07:00] <deepsa> jd lsusb -v please
[07:00] <billy> Madpilot, http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=30163&d=1177045183
[07:00] <deepsa> umop: maybe you not running the latest version
[07:00] <darwin> Does deluge cycle through all the trackers available like in utorrent?
[07:00] <diabolix> some distros even include a program called "wt*"
[07:01] <wm_eddie> Anyone had any problems with their CDROM drive dissapearing?
[07:01] <ccfiel> raof: yes its support but no tv out :( im planning to replace may windows MCE so i need tv out
[07:01] <wm_eddie> like no more /dev/hdb
[07:01] <RAOF> Aaaah.
[07:01] <billy> Madpilot, you'll see me flailing around with thunderbird.  pardon my mess.  :)
[07:01] <deCon> and what is the 64bit good for? I have dualcore amd64, but i heard things are iffy right now due to application development...does that mean i also have to emulate/??? 32bit applications if i install 64 bit? thx
[07:01] <RAOF> ccfiel: Is your card really not supported.  ATI sucks :(
[07:01] <wm_eddie> I only have a /dev/sda
[07:01] <mjbrooks> toddian, you wouldn't happen to have some usb devices plugged into it do you?
[07:02] <toddian> I do actually
[07:02] <toddian> got an ipod plugged in
[07:02] <diabolix> too bad you can't import settings from another distro...
[07:02] <jd> is there a good place to post log files?
[07:02] <toddian> mjbrooks: has that been known to cause problems?
[07:02] <DARKGuy> Hey, I'm installing the new ubuntu and I see something about a migration assistant, allowing me to choose stuff from my Windows drive... could anyone tell me what is this and what it's suppossed to do, and if it's safe to do what it asks?
[07:02] <jd> like some type of file host?
[07:02] <Meshezabeel> jd pastebin.ca ?
[07:02] <Meshezabeel> jd http://pastebin.ca
[07:02] <umop> Does anyone know if gparted 0.2.5 supports merging partitions?
[07:02] <mjbrooks> toddian, some people have said that there are boot issues with devices plugged in to the extended usb ports of that mobo
[07:02] <ccfiel> RAOF: yes ATI sucks. so i want to buy NVidia.  do you an info that shows list the supported and no head ached installed the restricted driver?
[07:03] <toddian> okay, so try unplugging and restarting with it?
[07:03] <diabolix> DARKGuy: it will attempt to import settings from you're windows partition, like bookmarks and email settings.
[07:03] <billy> DARKGuy, contents of C:\Documents and Settings\ (some anyway, pictures, music, etc.)
[07:03] <toddian> also, would it be better to use the amd64 version or i386 version of ubuntu
[07:03] <toddian> cuz I want to run cedega and crossover office
[07:03] <ccfiel> cldb: how about fx 6200? can this be a good video card?
[07:03] <mjbrooks> toddian, yeah, you might also need to actually go further and disable the extended usb in the bios
[07:03] <tom__> is it still ok just to update with a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade on an updated sources.list
[07:03] <jlowell> has anyone used metisse on ubuntu?
[07:03] <ap1> Should I install news firmware on Edgy for my ThinkPad z60m Intel 2916ABG WLAN card? Because it seems to be dead?
[07:03] <DARKGuy> diabolix, billy: I see, thanks. Hopefully this Feisty doesn't have any ntfs writing module so it's safe, right?
[07:04] <nonuda> any1 here use gambas?
[07:04] <billy> DARKGuy, and what diabolix said.
[07:04] <toddian> just an option in the bios?
[07:04] <ubuntu> if I use a amd64 ubuntu, will I be able to play doom3 or quake4 on it?
[07:04] <billy> DARKGuy, not by default, no ntfs writing.
[07:04] <mjbrooks> toddian, I'd use the 386 there are soem issues with 64  like no flash plugins for example
[07:04] <diabolix> DARKGuy: it will mount it read only, you should have nothing to worry about..
[07:04] <tom__> ubuntu: unless you need more than 4 gigs of ram, just use the x86 ubuntu
[07:04] <DARKGuy> Thanks a lot, diabolix & billy :D
[07:04] <billy> DARKGuy, right on.  :)
[07:04] <toddian> yeah that would be a problem, cool. I'm still downloading it but I'll restart and see if the amd 64 cd will at least boot
[07:04] <toddian> brb
[07:05] <mjbrooks> toddian, that's what they say
[07:05] <DARKGuy> What's with the "create an user for importing inside the selected account" ?
[07:05] <deCon> how is software for 64 bit, and does 32 bit software still work fine under 64bitamd?
[07:05] <s0undt3ch> dam, how do I mount a pen RW and not just R?
[07:05] <wm_eddie> Doh, my CDROM drive isn't in the hardware information at all >_<
[07:05] <tom__> deCon: i've got a 64 bit amd chip here and i just use 32 bit
[07:05] <billy> DARKGuy, you can set it to be someone other than yourself.  Put your own user name and password in there if you want it for you.
[07:05] <lalala> e296e3468358789904097fc8df29609a  ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[07:05] <tom__> deCon: no worries at all
[07:05] <lalala> correct?
[07:05] <Ashex> since the main ubuntu repos are being hammered
[07:05] <diabolix> out of curiosity, has anyone tried beryl in vesa mode?
[07:05] <siti> 64bit requires more work but will be faster due to compiler optimizations
[07:05] <tom__> deCon: the only need for 64 bit is if you use more than 4 gigs of ram
[07:06] <darwin> Why do some programs not work well with Compiz?
[07:06] <deCon> tom__, thats what i thought, but is 64bit worth it yet? Cuz i'm on 32bit edgy right now...
[07:06] <Ashex> in theory, if I use the canadian servers, they should be experiencing a lighter load, right?
[07:06] <DARKGuy> billy: But I haven't made any linux user accounts yet. Lemme see... does this creates a new user for importing the windows data in, or does it create a new user in the windows system? I'm kinda confused
[07:06] <tom__> deCon: like i said, only if you need mroe than four gigs of ram
[07:06] <billy> diabolix, yes.  in edgy.  didn't work.
[07:06] <diabolix> darwin: because compiz is under development.
[07:06] <Ax4> i don't think enough applications currently take advantage of 64bit chips
[07:06] <Ax4> :S
[07:06] <deCon> tom__, see ya, cuz my 1gb is fast as hell, but it was overloaded by too much in windows
[07:06] <deCon> tom__, thanks!
[07:06] <tom__> deCon: np :)
[07:06] <Meshezabeel> Ashex, use a torrent
[07:06] <deCon> does beryl work in feisty?
[07:06] <lalala> e296e3468358789904097fc8df29609a  ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso  (md5sum)
[07:06] <billy> DARKGuy, creates new user in ubuntu.  yeah, it's confusing.  just put the same username each time if you want it for yourself.
[07:06] <tom__> deCon: ype
[07:07] <Meshezabeel> deCon: yes, but beryl is still in beta
[07:07] <Ashex> Meshezabeel, I've downloaded the dvd with torrent and I'm currently seeding
[07:07] <Ashex> I'm talking about the repos
[07:07] <DARKGuy> I see, thanks billy :D
[07:07] <siti> Ax4: almost every open source app can be recompiled as a 64bit binary, at the very least ubuntu can allow more optimizations like sse, sse2, and 16 register support
[07:07] <jd> http://pastebin.ca/449378
[07:07] <diabolix> it is kind of nice that you can use irc while installing...
[07:07] <siti> Ax4: benchmarks vary, but I guess it's about 10% faster
[07:07] <tom__> siti: the problem isn't the open source apps, its the closed source one
[07:07] <Ashex> there is currently no true advantage to running a 64-bit system IMO as a desktop
[07:07] <diabolix> livecd+installer in one is awsome.
[07:07] <Ax4> siti: yea definitely  not enough YET :p
[07:07] <siti> tom__: yeah :(
[07:07] <darwin> I don't think it was a good idea to package feisty with compiz since it's still under development
[07:07] <tom__> Axhex: agreed
[07:08] <lalala> e296e3468358789904097fc8df29609a  ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso  (md5sum)?? Correct?
[07:08] <billy> DARKGuy, I just finished using it on my work computer.  Pulled -everything- from my windows account.
[07:08] <zPacKRat> am I the only one with feisty repository issues, as in they don't work.
[07:08] <jlowell> has anyone used metisse on ubuntu?
[07:08] <megafauna> billy: nice
[07:08] <DARKGuy> billy: cool!