[00:00] <Seven_Six_Two> kyle__, sorry I don't even know what you're trying to do. If it's just an xgl problem, you can post the contents of your xorg log file and xorg.conf at pastebin.com and let us know the url to the post. It will help diagnose your problem.
[00:00] <kitche> rangerguy39: you have to burn it to a cdrom
[00:00] <rangerguy39> yeah, i did
[00:00] <erUSUL> CrashOverride: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[00:00] <teknoprep> i don't get a splash screen now that i have everything installed.... wow this is really scrolling by quickly
[00:00] <rangerguy39> and then ran it off the cd
[00:00] <teknoprep> alot of ppl in here talkin
[00:00] <nickrud> CrashOverride: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[00:00] <Pelo> Chewy954,  you can resize your / partiton if you hae some room left in there and you can rezise the home after you get rid of the original install of ubuntu, you only need 5-10 gig to run the os itself, I'm at 3.5 gig right now with all the apps I need, the rest is 2xram for swap and 65 gig for /home
[00:00] <genii> ouellettesr: What make/model wifi card?
[00:00] <kitche> rangerguy39: so you rebooted your computer so it boots into Ubuntu?
[00:00] <hockeyfan5000> splash screen for what teknoprep
[00:00] <rangerguy39> kiche, no
[00:00] <rangerguy39> ill try that
[00:01] <kitche> rangerguy39: well it's a Operating System it's not a Windows/Mac program
[00:01] <Pelo> nickrud,  It think the reconfigure options need to be in capital letters
[00:01] <Chewy954> ok thanks Pelo
[00:01] <ouellettesr> genii they are both lynksys, one a wusb12 and the other a wusb54gsv4
[00:01] <nickrud> Pelo: no, lowercase
[00:01] <Pelo> Chewy954,  you might want to use the 7.04 cd, there is a bug in the partitoning tool in the 7.10 one
[00:02]  * nickrud consulted the man page quickly
[00:02]  * Pelo decides to respect nickrud 's courage
[00:02] <genii> ouellettesr: usb wifi is tricky, the driver that would work if it wasn't on the usb doesn't usually.
[00:02] <mikebeecham> is there any software I can use to completely delete information from a secondary HDD that was formatted via windows?
[00:02] <pike_> what was that link for the ubuntu win32 installer that makes a ext3 formatted file in windows and uses windows boot manager?
[00:02] <maximander> hello, i'm having issues with mysqld segfaulting on start, brand new install of 7.10/amd64
[00:02] <kyle__> how do i use XChat?
[00:02] <mikebeecham> I have deleted the files from that drive, but the amount of space I have left remains the same
[00:03] <tony_math> I can't make any changes to the preferences in Synaptic Package Manager. It hangs and I have to kill it. Would an uninstall/install work or is there a way to reset all settings?
[00:03] <AngryElf> I've got a geforce 6200 and i'm only getting 3 resolutions to choose from despite selecting all of them in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, binary driver, any ideas what's going on?
[00:03] <mr__daniel> kyle__: I am not understanding your question
[00:03] <mr__daniel> kyle__: what you mean with 'to use'?
[00:03] <Pelo> pike_, you'll need to use google and the aplet refers to ext2 if I recall corectly
[00:03] <kilo> what happens when i connect a Lan cable into ISDN port? does it work anyway?
[00:03] <kyle__> do you just ask questions?
[00:03] <ouellettesr> genii I also have a linksys pcmcia card I can use, will that be easier?
[00:03]  * jsoftw is bored.
[00:04] <nickrud> AngryElf: run xrandr in a terminal, are they the same resolutions?
[00:04] <pike_> !fixres | AngryElf
[00:04] <ubotu> AngryElf: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:04] <erUSUL> !wubi | pike_
[00:04] <DM|> Anyone know how to change the resolution GDM loads on the login window?
[00:04] <ubotu> pike_: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[00:04] <mikebeecham> is there any software I can use to completely delete information from a secondary HDD that was formatted via windows?
[00:04] <mikebeecham> I have deleted the files from that drive, but the amount of space I have left remains the same
[00:04] <LjL> !away > ajmorris|AFK    (ajmorris|AFK, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:05] <kitche> mikebeecham: well if you deleted the files your space should be higher but yes there is but it will write 0's to the drive so the files can not be recoverable
[00:05] <nickrud> kyle__: just ask away
[00:05] <genii> ouellettesr: with the wusb12 in does lsmod show prism2_usb as a module installed?
[00:05] <pike_> mikebeecham: you want to format it to a more linuxy format or keep ntfs?
[00:05] <ouellettesr> genii yes
[00:05] <genii> ouellettesr: Then it should be able to work
[00:05] <kilo> P l e a s e ....what happens when i connect a Lan cable into ISDN port? does it work anyway?
[00:05] <kyle__> okay i need everyones help with this one, i am running a AMD64 with an ATI X1650 graphics card and i want to use beryl without stuffing linux up like i did the past 5 times
[00:05] <Seven_Six_Two> kyle__, I'm using xchat. You use it the same way as mirc
[00:06] <Pilgrim`> quick question..i was watching a movie on my ubuntu box and it froze, what should i do? I have stuff open (irc, etc) that i would prefer not to restar
[00:06] <AngryElf> nickrud: both places have the same max resolution, that i'm using, but xrandr has a bunch more lower ones than the GUI does
[00:06] <Pilgrim`> t
[00:06] <mar1> I am having no end of trouble with DeVeDe in ubuntu
[00:06] <mikebeecham> pike_:  I dont want to format it, as there are files on that drive I want to keep...I just wanted to delete some of the files off....it's almost as though I've deleted them, but not really.....nautlius is not registering the freed up space?
[00:06] <MoTec> kilo: you might let some smoke out... It will not work
[00:06] <genii> ouellettesr: Do you see a wlan0 device on the ifconfig command?
[00:06] <AngryElf> nickrud: er, and a bunch of the ones I selected with dpkg-reconf.... (and are also in xorg.conf) are not showing up in xrandr
[00:06] <kilo> Pilgrim': just kill the process
[00:06] <Xdange1> guys all of a sudden my hardisk is movin slow
[00:06] <Pilgrim`> i cant, the movie is stuck open full screen
[00:06] <Pilgrim`> no response from xwindows
[00:06] <hockeyfan5000> backup Xdange1
[00:06] <nickrud> AngryElf: ok, next take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log; near lines 300 - 400 there will be a section about monitor recognition, it's probably not getting the right horiz and vert freqs
[00:07] <kyle__> okay i need everyones help with this one, i am running a AMD64 with an ATI X1650 graphics card and i want to use beryl without stuffing linux up like i did the past 5 times....... and my graphics card is not running at the moment
[00:07] <Pilgrim`> tried control alt backspace, and a bunch of other variations
[00:07] <mar1> anyone know of a good program for converting DVD .vob files into smaller mgeg?
[00:07] <hockeyfan5000> kyle what is the issue your having?
[00:07] <kyle__> everything lol
[00:07] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:07] <hockeyfan5000> are you using 7.10
[00:07] <kilo> Motec: thanx it was a relly stupid question wasn't it? :)
[00:07] <Seven_Six_Two> kyle__, You will only get help that is as good as the questions that you ask. If you want to know how to use something, read the documentation. That's what it's for. If you have a problem, ask specifically about your issue. e.g. "How do I use the internet" is not a good question
[00:07] <Xdange1> when i enter my username and password from the login Gnome takes a while to start
[00:07] <AngryElf> which i'm trying to look up right now...
[00:07] <DShepherd> mar1, acidrip maybe?
[00:07] <pike_> mikebeecham: not sure you might sudo umount /media/whatever then sudo mount /media/whatever  but i dunno
[00:07] <MoTec> kilo: i've got an old isdn router up on ebay right now... :)
[00:07] <CrashOverride> how do I log in as administrator, I tried doing it from the normal login screen but it just sayd "Administrator is no allower to login from this screen"
[00:07] <HigH_5> DvdRip
[00:07] <mikebeecham> hmmm
[00:08] <kyle__> okay, thanks
[00:08] <MACscr1077> Hmm, how do i kick or ghost my regular screen name?
[00:08] <kitche> CrashOverride: login as your user and use gksu or sudo
[00:08] <ouellettesr> genii I don't see wlan0
[00:08] <Xdange1> i dont know could removing trackerd affect performance??
[00:08] <mar1> DShepherd: the problem is that the .vob files are on my hard drive and I cannot get those programs to look at them cause they want to open a DVD drive all the time
[00:08] <DShepherd>  MACscr1077 /ghost username password
[00:08] <HigH_5> Acidrip isn't working for me very well marl. Try DvdRip.
[00:08] <maximander> meh, anyone? i
[00:08] <rangerguy39> kitche, after the OS is on the cd-rom, what should i do with it?
[00:08] <kilo> Motec: not interested at the moment... i will buy a Lan card tomorrow...just flush the isdn card in the toilet ;)
[00:08] <mikebeecham> pike_:  thanks, I will ask again to see if anyone else can help...
[00:08] <kitche> rangerguy39: umm just boot your computer and it will load
[00:08] <Seven_Six_Two> kyle__, locate all relevant config files and log files because it's difficult to get you an answer without them.
[00:08] <mikebeecham> is there any software I can use to completely delete information from a secondary HDD that was formatted via windows?
[00:08] <mikebeecham> pike_:  thanks, I will ask again to see if anyone else can help...
[00:08] <Xdange1> cause reading from memory is fast but from my hardrive is really slow??
[00:08] <rangerguy39> kitche, its not =\
[00:08] <mikebeecham> I have deleted the files from that drive, but the amount of space I have left remains the same
[00:09] <Chewy954> ( 19:01:59 ) ( Pelo ) Chewy954, you might want to use the 7.04 cd, there is a bug in the partitoning tool in the 7.10 one
[00:09] <genii> ouellettesr: try: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[00:09] <rangerguy39> is windows interfering with it?
[00:09] <Chewy954> Pelo: Im using acronis to partition.
[00:09] <nickrud> Xdange1: first think I'd look for is checking for your host name on the line with <IP_ADDRESS> in /etc/hosts
[00:09] <MACscr1077> Dshepherd: says its an unknown command
[00:09] <kyle__> my main proble is my graphics card..... its an ATI X1650 and i have the drivers for it, but when i run it the x server wont start
[00:09] <maximander> mikebeecham: shred
[00:09] <Pelo> Chewy954, what ever rocks your boat man
[00:09] <CrashOverride> what do I type in sudo to make me be in as root from bash
[00:09] <MoTec> kilo: aaah, i liked my isdn.. but that was long ago :)   so you have an ethernet connection now?  like at a company or college?
[00:09] <MACscr1077> Er, says ghost is
[00:09] <DShepherd> MACscr1077, what irc client are you using?
[00:09] <nickrud> Xdange1: mine got chewed up in the last update (again)
[00:09] <kitche> rangerguy39: then you didn't burn it right you need to burn the   .iso file as a image not put the .iso file on the cdrom
[00:09] <MACscr1077> miranda
[00:09] <Xdange1> nickrud; i'll try that
[00:09] <HigH_5> mikebeecham try with the Ultimate Boot CD, it has tools to wipe out the disk very thoroughly.
[00:09] <MACscr1077> But is swar i have used that command before
[00:09] <MACscr1077> swear
[00:09] <kyle__> i dont want to install without being sure it wont happen again
[00:09] <NYCThomasB> hey - i'm back.  my machine no longer sees ath0, my pcimcia wireless card
[00:09] <rangerguy39> kitche, can i query you?
[00:09] <mar1> anyone?
[00:10] <Xdange1> nickrud: i'm really afraid of these updates
[00:10] <HigH_5> DvdRip.
[00:10] <mikebeecham> High 5 I dont want to wipe the disk clean....
[00:10] <ouellettesr> genii I get SIOCSIFFLAGS: No Such Device
[00:10] <mikebeecham> pike_:  I dont want to format it, as there are files on that drive I want to keep...I just wanted to delete some of the files off....it's almost as though I've deleted them, but not really.....nautlius is not registering the freed up space?
[00:10] <kitche> rangerguy39: not really my client doesn't support that really right now I haven't wrote the script to check for queries
[00:10] <DShepherd> sorry MACscr1077, i dont know much about miranda
[00:10] <Chewy954> Pelo: I go the simplest way possible right now, since im a bit sick, time is of the essence.
[00:10] <Chewy954> lol
[00:10] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:10] <maximander> anyone know how to start going about getting MySQLd to start? It just segfaults without saying anything
[00:10] <CrashOverride> how do I log in as root
[00:10] <kilo> motec: i have a fast adsl connection...now i have a piii with ubuntu on it but i found this isdn card inside...i want to connect this old good pc to my router to use ubuntu as p2p station
[00:10] <MikeH> When I try opening a file with totem, I get a "cannot determine type of stream"
[00:10] <mikebeecham> High5  I dont want to format it, as there are files on that drive I want to keep...I just wanted to delete some of the files off....it's almost as though I've deleted them, but not really.....nautlius is not registering the freed up space?
[00:10] <Seven_Six_Two> kyle__, can you find your xserver log file? it should be somewhere near /var/log and be recognizably named. your X config file should be in or near /etc/X11/<xorg or XFree86>.conf
[00:10] <tony_math> kyle__ does that mean you only have a console? No graphics at all?
[00:10] <kyle__> there are two installs i use, one is Envy and the other is from the ATI site
[00:10] <mikebeecham> sorry pike
[00:10] <mikebeecham> lol
[00:10] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:10] <MikeH> is this a problem with codecs?
[00:10] <kitche> !root | CrashOverride
[00:10] <ubotu> CrashOverride: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:10] <Chewy954> CrashOverride: use su, but u gotta enable this in ubutu
[00:10] <AngryElf> nickrud: what file did you say to look in to find the horiz/vert refresh rates?
[00:10] <junkeR> hello everyone, when I put Ubuntu in hibernate my sound now skips and doesn't play correctly.  This is still happening after a restart/shutdown.. any fixes?
[00:11] <MACscr1077> Dshepherd : the error was from freenode, not my client
[00:11] <rangerguy39> okay
[00:11] <nickrud> AngryElf: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:11] <rangerguy39> so i should save the .iso as what?
[00:11] <Chewy954> im gonna make su possible for ubuntu :p
[00:11] <genii> ouellettesr: Bah, OK. Do you see an eth1 device where you know you have only 1 wired adapter then?
[00:11] <Chewy954> since i like using it lol
[00:11] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:11] <Xdange1> CrashOverride: you have to enable root login
[00:11] <kitche> !noroot
[00:11] <ubotu> Regardless of your choice: Please do not advise against user security policy and create a root password, please see !rootsudo
[00:11] <kyle__> my graphics card is fine but when i runs the x server restarts as aoon as i logg in
[00:11] <Big_Slim> how do you accept files on this program?
[00:11] <Pelo> Chewy954,  you want 3 partitons , one for / for the os,  5-10 gig ext3,  2xram for swap in linuxswap Fs , and the rest for /home in ext3 preferbly
[00:11] <DShepherd> MACscr1077, ok but i don't know why this is not working for you. it works for me :-)
[00:11] <ouellettesr> genii, nope I just have eth0 and lo
[00:11] <MoTec> kilo: aah, okay.  yep, you'll need an ethernet card, then :)  if you want to get advanced you can get _two_ ethernet cards and make it your firewall, router, and server :)
[00:12] <CrashOverride> I'm making a root thing nayway, how do I enable root logon
[00:12] <astro76> !sudo | CrashOverride
[00:12] <ubotu> CrashOverride: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[00:12] <Seven_Six_Two> kyle__, copy the contents of both of those files to pastebin.com and when you've submitted it, paste the url here
[00:12] <DShepherd> !root | CrashOverride
[00:12] <ubotu> CrashOverride: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password.  Is there a tool for this?
[00:12] <MACscr1077> Damnit, i cant get the newest ubuntu to work in Parallel =(
[00:12] <kyle__> thanks
[00:12] <junkeR> can anyone help me?  my sound card is dishing out sound that sounds like a skipping CD
[00:13] <kyle__> and i will try find that file
[00:13] <Seven_Six_Two> NYCThomasB, do you have backups?
[00:13] <Pelo> Chewy954,  2x ram for the swap , ie the swap must be tiwce the size of your ram
[00:13] <MACscr1077> Its having issues with my video card, which is odd because its a ati x800
[00:13] <kitche> junkeR: did you try rebooting to see if it fixes it or not?
[00:13] <NYCThomasB> seven six two: of the files? yes
[00:13] <maximander> anyone?
[00:13] <junkeR> yes
[00:13] <kilo> mtoec: now i go to rest some hours...it's 1.13 in the night here...
[00:13] <xTheGoat121x> I have returned
[00:13] <AngryElf> nickrud: there's nothing about refresh rates in my log file -- and the appropriate rates are within the ranges that are defined in xorg.conf...
[00:13] <MoTec> kilo: rest well :)
[00:13] <genii> ouellettesr: OK, perhaps add with admin privelege to /etc/network/interfaces   2 lines   line1:  auto wlan0       line2: iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[00:13] <kilo> bye everyone :)
[00:14] <Seven_Six_Two> NYCThomasB, then restore from them.
[00:14] <nickrud> AngryElf: hrm, nvidia then? (I hear that nvidia-settings can help)
[00:14] <MoTec> naxa: you can use imagemagic... mogrify, specifically.
[00:14] <ouellettesr> genii ok ill try that
[00:14] <kilo> motec: one last question
[00:14] <CrashOverride> lol it's kool being in as root
[00:14] <genii> ouellettesr: Hopefully your access point is set to hand out dhcp numbers
[00:14] <CrashOverride> is my /root folder supposed to be empty
[00:14] <matttis> hi
[00:14] <Xdange1> ok i dont see any process using up all my memory or cpu usage, so why is my system moving so slow after the last update
[00:15] <nickrud> CrashOverride: it isn't, try ls -l
[00:15] <MoTec> naxa: mogrify -resize 1024x768! \images\*.jpg
[00:15] <naxa> I cannot edit my system menu. If i make a change, it disappears within 0.5 sec. can you help me?
[00:15] <kilo> motec: if i install ubuntu now without the ethernet inside...when i will do it tomorrow and start ubuntu, will it detect and install the new hardware or i will have to do some stuff?
[00:15] <nickrud> CrashOverride: erm, ls -a that is
[00:15] <naxa> MoTec: thank you! :)
[00:15] <naxa> I cannot edit my system menu. If i make a change, it disappears within 0.5 sec. can you help me?
[00:15] <kitche> CrashOverride: of course since root can't login by default it has hidden files once you login though
[00:15] <CrashOverride> kool now I can look at the root files
[00:15] <matttis> how can I make it possible to vote for electric sheeps ? (at the moment pressing a button kills the screen saver)
[00:15] <naxa> MoTec: is it lossless?
[00:15] <kitche> CrashOverride: you could look at them before also lol
[00:15] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:15] <MoTec> kilo: I'm not 100% sure
[00:15] <nickrud> CrashOverride: you could have already; sudo ls -a /root
[00:15] <gamdulo> hola
[00:16] <CrashOverride> w/e
[00:16]  * jsoftw has xfce4 looking all good :)
[00:16] <CrashOverride> it's more 1337 using the root account
[00:16] <MoTec> naxa: reducing sizes of images _can't_ be lossless :)
[00:16] <NYCThomasB> seven_six_two: maybe i misstated - i want to reinstall os without having to relaod all of my saved files after.  files are on diff partition from os
[00:16] <xTheGoat121x> My Celeron M tends to run 10 degrees hotter in Ubuntu than it does in XP.... is there a reason for this, and a way to correct it?
[00:16] <kitche> CrashOverride: not really
[00:16] <CrashOverride> now it's kurt@ubuntu:~# instead of kurt@ubuntu:~$
[00:16] <CrashOverride> XD
[00:16] <kilo> MoTec: oh great... :| tomorrow i will have some good time then... i will have to put an old laser printer (serial) on it too...
[00:16] <matttis> !de
[00:16] <naxa> MoTec: yeah, sure... I mean if the jpg was a 100% quality, will the new jpg still a 100% quailty jpg?
[00:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[00:16] <nickrud> CrashOverride: what' really elite is running your ubuntu from a chrooted live cd ;)
[00:17] <MoTec> naxa: aah.. not sure, actually.. i'd think so, tho.
[00:17] <mr__daniel> CrashOverride: root previledges should only be used when they are really necessary
[00:17] <MoTec> kilo: good luck :)
[00:17] <genii> ouellettesr: after saving those 2 lines, try again sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[00:17] <MoTec> kilo: cups will do that just fine
[00:17] <CrashOverride> well I'm trying to be 1337 here so I'm doing it anyway
[00:17] <AngryElf> nickrud: thanx, forgot about that -- was able to bump it up one more res
[00:17] <AngryElf> thanx
[00:17] <kilo> MoTec: cups?? what's that?
[00:18] <jsoftw> CrashOverride: sudo passwd
[00:18] <jsoftw> CrashOverride: then su -
[00:18] <jsoftw> and then there we go.
[00:18] <MoTec> cupsd is the print server... common unix printing system
[00:18] <CrashOverride> w/e
[00:18] <Pici> !noroot | jsoftw
[00:18] <ubotu> jsoftw: Regardless of your choice: Please do not advise against user security policy and create a root password, please see !rootsudo
[00:18] <jsoftw> :\
[00:18] <kitche> Pici: doesn't matter sicne CrashOverride enabled it already
[00:19] <kam> how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse>
[00:19] <Pici> kitche: /me facepalms
[00:19] <Sportsdude80> hi
[00:19] <jsoftw> !rootsudo
[00:19] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[00:19] <CrashOverride> I KNOW
[00:19] <jsoftw> *shrug*
[00:19] <Sportsdude80> is  anyone not useing opera
[00:19] <jsoftw> Hey I aint hassling you CrashOverride
[00:19] <CrashOverride> really you losers keep repeating that
[00:19] <CrashOverride> I don't care
[00:19] <jsoftw> CrashOverride: :\
[00:19] <jsoftw> CrashOverride: dude, settle.
[00:19] <kelsin> CrashOverride: then don't respond
[00:20] <naxa> MoTec: can you help me with this: I want to tell sed to delete everything before a href=" and after the next " symbol
[00:20] <MoTec> naxa: aaah... regular expressions hurt my brain :)
[00:20] <Sportsdude80> do they have mods here
[00:20] <kelsin> matttis: everything before the href=" including the href="?
[00:20] <ouellettesr> genii I get the same error SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device
[00:20] <kam> how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse> linked to /dev/input/mice at start despite no such device in xorg.conf
[00:20] <NYCThomasB> Can someone help me get the wireless connection option back in my network settings window?
[00:20] <naxa> MoTec: i feel the same :) although there are very useful, actually... only hard to learn for me...
[00:21] <Sportsdude80> anyone have wpe pro
[00:21] <kelsin> sed 's/^.*href="[^"]*".*$//'
[00:21] <MoTec> naxa: regex is awesome..  sounds like kelsin is a pro :)
[00:21] <matttis> kelsin: you got the wrong one :-)
[00:21] <CrashOverride> !telnet
[00:21] <ubotu> telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh
[00:21] <CrashOverride> epic lulz
[00:21] <CrashOverride> "telnet is not safe" LOL
[00:21] <kelsin> matttis: wow I REALLy go the wrong one lol
[00:21] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:21] <astro76> !lol
[00:21] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:21] <kitche> CrashOverride: it's not for a server
[00:21] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[00:21] <naxa> kelsin: thank you! :) um... hope that MoTec told me, i wouldn't notice that you're talking to me :)
[00:22] <MoTec> CrashOverride: are you just trying to stir things up here?
[00:22] <Kragnerac> ubuntu
[00:22] <kam> how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse> linked to /dev/input/mice at start despite no such device in xorg.conf
[00:22] <Cabbage> MoTec: Duh. Come on, everything he's said screams deliberate trolling-for-the-lulz.
[00:22] <kelsin> naxa: hope it works lol, obviousyl test it before going around sed -i :)
[00:22] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:22] <Flare183> Can someone mentor me for the MOTU
[00:22] <graft> can we modify that ubotu message to forbid the use of lol and omg in absolutely all contexts?
[00:22] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:22] <Kragnerac> !lol
[00:22] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[00:22] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:22] <naxa> kelsin: ok :)
[00:22] <Cabbage> whut
[00:22] <Kragnerac> CrashOverride: heh
[00:22] <kelsin> Flare183: probably should ask in #ubuntu-motu
[00:23] <kitche> kam: it uses /dev/input/mice even if you don't have a mouse in your xorg.conf
[00:23] <Flare183> I know but i get no answer in their
[00:23] <CrashOverride> it's a script
[00:23] <CrashOverride> says lol back to anyone else saying lol
[00:23] <NYCThomasB> is there a command to restart ALL of my network connections and ports ?
[00:23] <CrashOverride> ..lol
[00:23] <Bearcat> hey folks
[00:23] <jsoftw> CrashOverride: you er... might want to turn that off
[00:23] <Kragnerac> CrashOverride: This is zer0c00l.
[00:23] <roomone> anyone im having trouble installing windows xp from ubuntu
[00:24] <CrashOverride> how did you know I was zerokool500
[00:24] <graft> roomone: haha
[00:24] <genii> ouellettesr: Bah ok. I'm not overly familiar with usb troubleshooting so I'd recommend the pcmcia adapter at this point unless another here can help further with the usb one
[00:24] <Menacie> how do i get 1680 x 1050 anyone? samsung monitor
[00:24] <Journeyman> is there a version of amarok made for gnome?
[00:24] <roomone> try to boot from disc it works but then it takes me to command prompt
[00:24] <graft> Journeyman: amarok will run fine in gnome
[00:24] <kitche> Journeyman: there is banshee which is for gnome
[00:24] <Bearcat> Journeyman: look at exhile
[00:24] <Journeyman> graft, mostly
[00:24] <kelsin> Journeyman: no, you could check out Rhythmbox, Listen, or Banshee if you really want a gtk player
[00:24] <Bearcat> Journeyman: exhile is a amarok clone
[00:24] <NYCThomasB> is there a command to restart ALL of my network connections and ports ?
[00:24] <Journeyman> Rhythmbox is the suck
[00:24] <ouellettesr> genii, you don't think I would have a problem with a pcmcia adapter?
[00:24] <genii> ouellettesr:I just had a disconnect/reconnect so last msg not sure you got:  Bah ok. I'm not overly familiar with usb troubleshooting so I'd recommend the pcmcia adapter at this point unless another here can help further with the usb one
[00:25] <Sportsdude80> I am online people
[00:25] <Journeyman> the problem with amarok is it doesn't work with my media keys
[00:25] <astro76> NYCThomasB, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:25] <darwub> hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas?
[00:25] <Menacie> anybody?
[00:25] <genii> ouellettesr: Since the pcmcia works as part of the pci it is less problemmatic
[00:25] <NYCThomasB> astro76: thx
[00:25] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: /etc/init.d/network restart will restart network interface, but you'll have to do that for a lot of different programs to restart EVERY port and that might not even do it if you use Network Manager to manager some devices
[00:25] <ouellettesr> genii, cool I think ill get one of them now
[00:25] <ciclo> hello, everybody
[00:26] <Sportsdude80> http://xat.com/clugbpenhguinfugnchgatbgox
[00:27] <Sportsdude80> http://xat.com/clugbpenhguinfugnchgatbgox come theyre now
[00:27] <base3> does anyone know how to stop update-grub from running at every reboot??
[00:27] <astro76> !ops | Sportsdude80
[00:27] <ubotu> Sportsdude80: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[00:27] <kam> kitche, http://pastebin.com/m6d9d0f8
[00:27] <kam> i do have a mouse, synaptics
[00:27] <kam> and touchscreen
[00:27] <kam> how do i stop it
[00:27] <darwub> hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas? x11 gives me the right aspect but xv, gl2 and others do not
[00:28] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: no apps running so not worried about ports.  issue is i disabled my ath0 and can't get to see it now. after the network restart iwconfig fails to see my ath0 but it is there.  thoughts?
[00:28] <ruben> woops. Weird glitch I had here
[00:28] <CrashOverride> root@ubuntu:~# mkdir /r00t./workspace./garbage.
[00:28] <CrashOverride> mkdir: cannot create directory `/r00t./workspace./garbage.': No such file or directory
[00:28] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: what did you do to disable the card?
[00:28] <CrashOverride> I'm trying to make a directory there
[00:28] <CrashOverride> why is it doing that?
[00:28] <maximander> anyone here familer with using gdb?
[00:29] <kelsin> CrashOverride: you can't make multiple directories in one command, add -p I think to the mkdir command?
[00:29] <Menacie> can anybody tell me how to edit to 1680 x 1050 resolution please :)
[00:29] <lunks> Can someone point me to nvidia black ttys factoid?
[00:29] <CrashOverride> ok
[00:29] <NYCThomasB> KELSIN: standby - getting cmd
[00:29] <kam> how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse> linked to /dev/input/mice at start despite no such device in xorg.conf
[00:29] <jsoftw> CrashOverride: are you _trying_ to troll?
[00:29] <CrashOverride> no
[00:29] <CrashOverride> ..
[00:29] <lunks> !blackttys
[00:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blackttys - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:29] <void^> CrashOverride: mkdir -p. try to be less funny.
[00:29] <lunks> !blacktty
[00:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blacktty - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:29] <CrashOverride> It's for a remake of the movie 'hackers' I'm making
[00:29] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: probably need to remove (maybe) and reinstate the kernel module, modprobe -r <module>; modprobe <module>
[00:29] <ruben> ok. I cant restart shorewall. It returns: ERROR: No firewall zone defined in /etc/shorewall/zones
[00:29] <darwub> hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas? x11 gives me the right aspect but xv, gl2 and others do not
[00:29] <ruben> Terminated.   My zones file goes like this:
[00:29] <ruben> loc     Local          Local network
[00:29] <ruben> net     Net            Tinternet
[00:29] <CrashOverride> and I don't want to mess with the real root folder
[00:29] <allbert> has anyone hot konqueror worked with gmail?
[00:30] <Nighthawk420> hey im having a problem with evolution mail... every time i start it up it brings it up normally, but fullscreen... there are no close buttons or title bar  at the top of the window... i ahve gone through every setting and tried draggin it down but no luck... I have also synaptic uninstalled it and re installed  it but still nothing... Please Help.
[00:30] <allbert> hot-got
[00:30] <lunks> !pastebin ruben
[00:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin ruben - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:30] <lunks> !pastebin | ruben
[00:30] <ubotu> ruben: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:30] <jsoftw> Nighthawk420: try thunderbird is all I can say. I found evolution to be quite buggy.
[00:30] <Menacie> please :(
[00:30] <alzamabar> I can't connect to MySQL. I installed it, set a new password when asked but now I can't connect
[00:30] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: that is what i am looking for.  enter as typed or do i need to replace what is in brackets?
[00:30] <jsoftw> alzamabar: mysql -u root  ?
[00:30] <kelsin> alzamabar: what command are you using to connect and what is it saying when it tells you you can't?
[00:30] <darwub> hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas? x11 gives me the right aspect but xv, gl2 and others do not
[00:31] <genii> alzamabar: use ip and not localhost
[00:31] <MoTec> darwub: don't repeat so quickly
[00:31] <alzamabar> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[00:31] <CrashOverride> ok what's the difference between ./ and /
[00:31] <ruben> oooh. sorry, didnt knew that
[00:31] <jsoftw> alzamabar: so it _is_ working.
[00:31] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: you need to find out what module is running your ethernet card, then you insert that in "sudo modprobe -r <module-name>" to remove and the same command without the -r to put back
[00:31] <Nighthawk420> thanks jsoftw
[00:31] <bruenig> CrashOverride, . means current directory
[00:31] <jsoftw> alzamabar: mysql -u root -p foo
[00:31] <jsoftw> alzamabar: mysql -u root -p  I mean
[00:31] <kelsin> alzamabar: add a -p to that command, without the password if you'r eon a multiuser system
[00:31] <kitche> alzamabar: it's not using the password you need to give mysql a password for the account when your trying to login
[00:31] <kelsin> alzamabar: and it will prompt
[00:32] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: that is what i am looking for.  enter as you typed or do i need to replace what is in brackets?
[00:32] <lex_> I appear to be having an issue with dvdrip; when trying to use the program I encounter: The movie has 171092.736 frames, but only 146067 were ripped. This is most likely a problem with your transcode/libdvdread installation. I've checked the installs and even reinstalled them but keep getting this error. Any insight?
[00:32] <pike_> darwub: well i run hd content on a p3 600 with 380MB ram and an old 16mb graphics card so that is bad
[00:32] <XacaH> hi all
[00:32] <jsoftw> I thought -p never accepted passwords on the command line like that?
[00:32] <genii> please remember mysql needs to be run as user mysql
[00:32] <kam> how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse> linked to /dev/input/mice at start despite no such device in xorg.conf
[00:32] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: I just answered that question, you need to replace with your kernel module for your device
[00:32] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: sorry mistyped.  how do i find module?
[00:32] <MoTec> CrashOverride: also, files and directories starting with a . are hidden
[00:32] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: what card do you have?
[00:32] <jsoftw> genii: the daemon perhaps, but not the client
[00:32] <roomone> Can someone willing to help me im me i have a question about ubuntu
[00:33] <jsoftw> roomone: just ask
[00:33] <mrdigital> hi does anyone know how to get 720p hd in tv-out?
[00:33] <kelsin> !ask
[00:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[00:33] <alzamabar> mtedone@jemoslinux:~$ mysql -u root -p foo
[00:33] <alzamabar> Enter password:
[00:33] <alzamabar> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[00:33] <XacaH> how to do undo kickban in Kvirc? (on another server)
[00:33] <ruz322> can anyone recommend a program similar to iMovie that i can make simple photo slideshow videos with?
[00:33] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: smcwcb-g
[00:33] <kelsin> alzamabar: then you didn't set the password correctly
[00:33] <tony_math> Where does apt keep it's configuration files? The files where Synaptic Package Manager would store the entries in the Preferences dialog window?
[00:33] <genii> jsoftw: Perhaps it's just a bsd-ism then
[00:33] <jrib> ruz322: not sure, but try kino and pitivi
[00:33] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: is that a module number, or a brand?
[00:33] <tony_math> They're not in /etc/apt
[00:33] <alzamabar> How do I undo completely the mysql installation and to it again#/
[00:33] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: I meant *model
[00:33] <jsoftw> genii: huh
[00:34] <jsoftw> ?
[00:34] <ruz322> jrib: kino doesnt look like it's what i want, kind of complicated...
[00:34] <roomone> i have ubuntu install on my desktop and i want to erase it and istall windows can anyone help
[00:34] <kitche> alzamabar: when you do mysql -u root -p hit enter it will ask you for the password like it did enter your password there since I bet foo is not your password
[00:34] <pike_> alzamabar: sudo apt-get remove <packagename> --purge
[00:34] <XacaH> îò õóéíÿ :( øî æ äåëàòü áëÿäü.
[00:34] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: model#
[00:34] <jsoftw> roomone: just get your windows cd and boot up and start installer.
[00:34] <tony_math> alzamabar: how did you install MySQL? Using Synaptic? If so, just remove it using Synaptic.
[00:34] <NYCThomasB> Kelsin: SMC is brand
[00:34] <jsoftw> roomone: /join #windows.
[00:34] <lunks> Got "/etc/gdm/failsafeXserver: line 47: [: too many arguments<break line>: error: this program does not know how to configure the "10<break line>shared/default-x-server doesn't exist" X server<break line>Warning: Could not generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe for vesa driver
[00:34] <XacaH> how to do undo kickban in Kvirc? (on another server)
[00:34] <jrib> tony_math: why?
[00:35] <lunks> this is what i'm getting on ubuntu when trying to start x.
[00:35] <genii> jsoftw: Previously on freebsd I would need to issue something like su -c "mysql <whatever option>" mysql
[00:35] <pike_> !pastebin | lunks
[00:35] <ubotu> lunks: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:35] <kitche> XacaH: umm same way that you undo a ban /mode <channel> -b <host>
[00:35] <jsoftw> genii: err... I run bsd all the time and have _never_ had to do that
[00:35] <tony_math> jrib: I can't make any changes to the preferences using the GUI. The application just hangs and I have to kill it.
[00:35] <cracker9009> /list
[00:35] <lunks> pike_: no X window here. :P
[00:35] <roomone> I boot through cd and it takes me to a command prompt because of some protection the computer reads
[00:35] <pike_> lunks: sorry thought you were going to paste your whole x log or something
[00:35] <jrib> tony_math: run it in a terminal
[00:35] <cracker9009> hello
[00:35] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: did you install it with ndiswrapper?
[00:36] <smookerPC1> hey ppls
[00:36] <tony_math> jrib: So right now I can't install anything since I can't remove the "proxy" setting in the preferences section of Synaptic.
[00:36] <lunks> pike_: No, I tried to make it only one line so it wouldn't flood. :)
[00:36] <kam> how do I set the <default mouse> to my synaptics device in my xorg.conf?  xorg creates a default because it says it doesnt have one.
[00:36] <jrib> tony_math: you can use apt on the command line
[00:36] <smookerPC1> how do i setup my subtitles to be shown in Cyrylic ?
[00:36] <MoTec> roomone: what you computer is doing when you're booting off of a xp install cd is totally unrelated to ubuntu, or whatever OS (or OSs) you might have installed.
[00:36] <jrib> !apt > tony_math (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:36] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: i was trying to but whatver i did lastnight mad the wireless card invisible
[00:36] <jimjam> Is there any way to eliminate the output caused by commands in a script?
[00:36] <alzamabar> k, I reinstalled (this time without password) and now it works fine. The --purge worked greatly. Thanx
[00:36] <XacaH> kitche: thanks for answer. but its dont help :( that people cant connect to server :(
[00:36] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: I'm confused, so it was working, then you tried to install ndiswrapper, then it disappeared?
[00:37] <jrib> jimjam: redirect to /dev/null
[00:37] <jsoftw> jimjam: /path/to/script > /dev/null
[00:37] <kitche> XacaH: well that's how you do it though :)
[00:37] <kelsin> jimjam: 1> to only redirect std-out and 2> to only redirect std-err
[00:37] <lunks> pike_: Could you please search ubotus factoids about 'black ttys' on nvidia?
[00:37] <tony_math> jrib: will do. Thanks
[00:37] <roomone> alright thanks guys ill come back if i have any questions.
[00:37] <MoTec> jimjam: scriptname > /dev/null
[00:37] <MoTec> dang, i'm slow :)
[00:37] <lunks> pike_: I believe it shouldn't be too hard, and could point me a direction.
[00:37] <jimjam> Thanks everyone. Is there any way to keep my echos coming through?
[00:37] <smookerPC1> How do i setup my Video subtitles to be shown Cyrylic (RUS/BG..)
[00:38] <Frederick> folks im having problems with ubuntu in a amd64 machine my xserver does not boot :/
[00:38] <jrib> jimjam: redirect to /dev/null
[00:38] <Sepheebear> lunks: what happened, you lost tty1-6 since gutsy?
[00:38] <tony_math> jrib: I saw the message. However, looks like my GUI application is broken.
[00:38] <Frederick> it says I got no permission
[00:38] <jimjam> jrib: Sorry, I meant I want them to output, but everything not to
[00:38] <jrib> tony_math: you haven't run it in a terminal yet
[00:39] <kelsin> jimjam: in your script redirect the other commands but don't redirect your echos
[00:39] <jrib> jimjam: huh?
[00:39] <jimjam> Oh, thanks kelsin
[00:39] <jimjam> and everyone else :)
[00:39] <lunks> Sepheebear: sort of
[00:39] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: sorry.  ndiswrapped was previously installed but not used.  last night i tried to install madwifi, that is where things went wrong. i think the folloing two commmands did it, but reversing them says there is no such device.  commmands were: sudo ifconfig ath0 down , then i ran, sudo ifconfig wifi down.
[00:39] <MoTec> jimjam: well... scriptname 2> /dev/null just stops 'error' messages...
[00:39] <jrib> jimjam: you only redirect what you don't want *inside* your script
[00:39] <XacaH> kitche: in Kvirc i do /opet, than /mode chennel +o , than do kickban on the nick from Kvirc menu
[00:39] <Frederick> I got an error on the xlog no devices detected
[00:39] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: so sudo ifconfig ath0 up, unfortunately does not work?
[00:39] <jimjam> Thank you everyone!\
[00:39] <tony_math> jrib: the problem is that at work, I need to set a proxy server connection, which I don't need at home. So, I normally make this change using the Preferences dialog window.
[00:39] <MoTec> Well yeah, and if you modify the script you can do the > /dev/null on the commands you want 'muted' only
[00:40] <jrib> tony_math: ok
[00:40] <Sepheebear> lunks: anything happen if you do `sudo modprobe fbcon && sudo modprobe vesafb`?
[00:40] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: yes.  says device not installed. something in the execution of madwifi install probably was the culprit.  i just want to reinstall networking piece of os if possible to get hat back to original state
[00:40] <jrib> tony_math: I mean, run the dialog from the terminal so you can look for error messages
[00:40] <lunks> Sepheebear: I did, managed to do with a hack using vesafb instead of nvidiafb, not I upgraded to Heron and X does not work anymore. It complains about not being able to start vesa driver, so I figure it must relate somehow. Now I want to go back to nvidiafb to narrow it down. :P
[00:40] <lunks> Sepheebear: I'm on the opposite way, but somehow I can't seem to unload vesafb. :P
[00:40] <MoTec> tony_math: i bet it's stored in one of the directories, starting with a ".", in your home directory...
[00:41] <Frederick> any help for me?
[00:41] <Sepheebear> probably something depends on it, do lsmod | grep vesafb
[00:41] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: well unfortunately I don't know what was running your card in the first place, but you can try "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[00:41] <jrib> !please > Frederick (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:41] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: sudo it of course
[00:41] <lunks> let me try
[00:41] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: standby thanks
[00:41] <tony_math> thanks jrib/MoTec, I'm still looking. I'm going to start Synaptic from a terminal and see what it spits out.
[00:42] <Menacie> can anyone help me with 1680 x 1050 resolution, i have samsung syncmaster monitor and nvidia 7600gs agp
[00:42] <lunks> Sepheebear: It outputs "vesafb 9092 1"
[00:42] <skyfalcon866> !aero\
[00:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aero\ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:42] <skyfalcon866> !aero
[00:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aero - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:42] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: what should happen when i run that?
[00:42] <graft> anyone ever had issues with audio looping incessantly?
[00:43] <pike_> Menacie: google for horiz and vert settings for the monitor then gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and plug em in there
[00:43] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: ath0 should reappear
[00:43] <Sepheebear> lunks: and you cant rmmod it?
[00:43] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: ok iwconfig ing now
[00:43] <tony_math> jrib/MoTec: I ran synaptic from a terminal and when I made the change in the preferences dialog, the application just hung. No messages in the terminal window.
[00:43] <Sepheebear> how about rmmod -f ?
[00:43] <pike_> Menacie: are  you using nvidia driver?
[00:44] <jrib> tony_math: so you have to kill it now?
[00:44] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: iwconfig doen't even list ath0
[00:44] <lunks> Sepheebear: it says resource temporarily unavailable
[00:44] <g0th> hi
[00:44] <g0th> Somehow the desktop background is not set on my ubuntu
[00:44] <tony_math> Because Synaptic is misbehaving, Software Updates won't work.
[00:44] <sipsipclick> g0th, did you try to set it?
[00:44] <jrib> tony_math: you can use apt
[00:44] <g0th> whenever I start gnome-appearance-properties (no setting at all just start it) it is shown again
[00:45] <g0th> of course
[00:45] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: damn, then honestly I don't know what module was running your card before, you can try typing "dmesg" and seeing if near the end is an error about loading the ndiswrapper, unless it loaded fine without cards, I don't know much about ndiswrapper
[00:45] <lunks> Sepheebear: clearer: ERROR: Removing 'vesafb': Resource temporarily unavailable
[00:45] <g0th> I see it then again
[00:45] <ghost> hello all
[00:45] <MoTec> Menacie: modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, looking for lines starting with "Modes"... those lines will say "1024x768" "800x600" etc, already..  Put "1680x1060" first, right after the word Modes
[00:45] <g0th> then I even do gnome-session-save
[00:45] <g0th> but after the next login it's gone again
[00:45] <MoTec> tony_math: you
[00:45] <lunks> Sepheebear: when rmmod -f
[00:45] <MoTec> tony_math: you're not going to see output like that
[00:45] <ghost> I have got to say, I LOVE ubuntu. I return from a stint in Gentoo and I must say, blessed be the Ubuntu magic
[00:45] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: ok, well thanks for your time and efforts
[00:45] <ghost> It just works meets full customability
[00:45] <tony_math> jrib: how do I use apt-get to install the software updates?
[00:46] <ghost> tony_math: sudo apt-get update
[00:46] <jrib> tony_math: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade  (or apt-get if you prefer it)
[00:46] <teprrr> hello there. just wanted to ask if there's a page where one can watch the packages going to hardy and so on?
[00:46] <tony_math> MoTec: I see that now. There's nothing in /var/log to indicate what's going on.
[00:46] <ghost> tony_math: sudo apt-get update
[00:46] <Chewy954> is it safe to install ubuntu through vmware onto a partition to natively boot it?
[00:46] <Sepheebear> lunks: that's strange. and you cant modprobe nvidiafb
[00:46] <kelsin> teprrr: you can always search at packages.ubuntu.com, I don't know about any rss feed or anything
[00:46] <sipsipclick> g0th, have you tried other wallpapers or just the one? you could try creating a new user account for yourself
[00:46] <teprrr> ie. one could see pending packages and why they're pending and so on
[00:47] <teprrr> kelsin, yup, I know about p.u.c, but it doesn't have such an information :P
[00:47] <Sepheebear> lunks: how about if you explicitly blacklist vesafb and boot up with it blacklisted?
[00:47] <Pelo> sorry about that folks
[00:47]  * bruenig does not forgive
[00:47] <g0th> sipsipclick: I tried different wallpapers and I don't really wanna repeat all the settings for another user
[00:47] <ghost> How is the state of 'desktop effects'
[00:47] <g0th> shouldn't it be enough to reset certain properties/files?
[00:47] <Sepheebear> lunks: and include nvidiafb and fbcon in your initramfs
[00:47] <ghost> is it really just compis-fusion?
[00:47] <tony_math> jrib: Thanks :) Your comands worked. I had about 38 updates pending and now they're downloading and preparing for install.
[00:47] <anton__> Is there a player like foobar2000 in linux?
[00:48] <bruenig> ghost, yes
[00:48] <lunks> Sepheebear: just 'modprobe nvidiafb' seems to work. I have blacklisted it in /etc/modprobe.d blacklist and blacklist.framebuffer
[00:48] <kitche> ghost: it's compiz with compiz-fusion
[00:48] <lunks> Sepheebear: hmm any tip on messing around with initramfs?
[00:48] <lunks> I've never done it.
[00:48] <Sepheebear> lunks: but did you include the framebuffer mods in the initramfs?
[00:48] <ghost> what is the package for the configure app?
[00:48] <sipsipclick> g0th, no doubt.  unfortunately that's the easiest route with some of these gnome issues.  you could try running nautilus from the command line and see if you get any errors
[00:48] <lunks> Sepheebear: I haven't myself, AFAIR
[00:48] <anton__> Is there a player like foobar2000 in linux? With just one big window for 1 playlist? Not like amarok...
[00:49] <ghost> is it as robust as Bryle and Emrald was?
[00:49] <jrib> ghost: be more specific
[00:49] <kitche> !ccsm | ghost is one configure application
[00:49] <ubotu> ghost is one configure application: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[00:49] <mattep> ALguien habla español ¿
[00:49] <bill_k> anton__: VLC?
[00:49] <g0th> sipsipclick: I don't run nautilus at all
[00:49] <mattep> Me ayudan
[00:49] <mattep> xD
[00:49] <bill_k> !vlc
[00:49] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[00:49] <jrib> !es | mattep
[00:49] <ubotu> mattep: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:49] <lunks> Sepheebear: That's why I was looking for the black ttys tutorial, to revert it accurately.
[00:49] <anton__> bill_k: I want to use VLC for movies only...
[00:49] <sipsipclick> g0th, nautilus is your file/desktop manager in gnome by default
[00:49] <g0th> sipsipclick: I don't need a file manager
[00:49] <Sepheebear> lunks: try that, include fbcon and nvidiafb in "/etc/initramfs-tools/modules"
[00:49] <jshriver> konichiwa
[00:49] <lunks> Sepheebear: hah! that should be it
[00:50] <jshriver> how do you upgrade from fiesty fawn to gutsy gibbon?
[00:50] <bill_k> anton__: why?
[00:50] <mattep> #kubuntu-es
[00:50] <lunks> Sepheebear: vesafb is uncommented, and nvidiafb is commented out.
[00:50] <ghost> jrib: Like can I install profiles and new stuff?
[00:50] <lunks> Sepheebear: Thanks, I'll try it.
[00:50] <anton__> bill_k: Just feels better :P
[00:50] <Sepheebear> lunks: then make sure to run `sudo update-initramfs -u` afterwards
[00:50] <lunks> I should do updateinitramfs -u
[00:50] <jrib> ghost: for what? configure what?
[00:50] <lunks> yeah thnx
[00:50] <sipsipclick> g0th, if you aren't running nautilus then that's why you don't see a background.  if you really don't want it you can try using xsetroot or bsetbg at login to set the wallpaper
[00:50] <kitche> jshriver: gksu update-manager -c is the gui way
[00:50] <g0th> nautilus is quite slow and resource heavy so I deactivated it since I never ever used it
[00:50] <lunks> Sepheebear: Really appreciated. :)
[00:50] <ghost> compiz
[00:50] <bill_k> anton__: hah, ok.  I've just used vlc, mplayer, and amarok
[00:50] <g0th> hmm
[00:50] <g0th> ahh
[00:50] <jrib> ghost: compiz-config-settings-manager
[00:50] <Sepheebear> lunks: let us know how it ends up
[00:51] <skyfalcon866> !logs
[00:51] <jshriver> kitche, domo arigatu
[00:51] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[00:51] <g0th> so nautilus is responsible for the desktop background usually?
[00:51] <kelsin> g0th: well nautilus is what sets the desktop, so that's you're problem
[00:51] <Frederick> folks my x server is borked up
[00:51] <anton__> bill_k: Okok.
[00:51] <sipsipclick> g0th, under gnome yeah
[00:51] <kelsin> g0th: yes it manages the desktop in gnome
[00:51] <g0th> ok thanks
[00:51] <kitche> !english | jshriver
[00:51] <ghost> The Human Theme is all well and good, but I want to try out some newer stuff
[00:51] <ubotu> jshriver: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[00:51] <skyfalcon866> !nautilus
[00:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:51] <g0th> I thought it was only a file manager
[00:51] <Frederick> and alt + fnumber is not giving me other terminals
[00:51] <skyfalcon866> g0th: it is
[00:51] <jshriver> sorry
[00:51] <ghost> Oh, and does anyone know if it will work with KDE4 when it comes out?
[00:51] <jshriver> gksu update-manager -c didnt work
[00:51] <g0th> well the desktop background hasn't much to do with file management
[00:51] <Sepheebear> ghost: have you tried some of the dark themes?
[00:51] <skyfalcon866> konqueror is a file manger/web browser
[00:51] <sipsipclick> g0th, look at xsetroot or bsetbg
[00:51] <g0th> thanks
[00:51] <ghost> Sepheebear: no, but I intend too
[00:51] <MoTec> Frederick: you might be able to kill it with CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[00:52] <kitche> jshriver: you have to refresh update manager if it didn't auto refresh then there is a button at the top saying new release available
[00:52] <graft> ghost: it'll work with kde4, but kwin4 is going to have its own compositing effects
[00:52] <ghost> Sepheebear: where do you go for your themes?
[00:52] <Sepheebear> ghost: im currently running the ubuntustudio theme and I love it
[00:52] <ghost> graft: excellent.
[00:52] <Frederick> MoTec: I know but I need to set this crap
[00:52] <Menacie> MoTec
[00:52] <Frederick> I think I ghot issues cause it is a widescreen monitor
[00:52] <Menacie> i have just put 1680x1050 as first after modes
[00:52] <Menacie> still nothing
[00:52] <ghost> Sepheebear: link? I am curious about studio how do you like it?
[00:52] <jshriver> kitche, thanks tried it again w/o -c
[00:53] <Menacie> Modes		"1680x1050@60"	"1600x1200@65"	"1400x1050@60"	"1280x960@75"	"1280x1024@60"	"1280x960@60"	"1280x1024@75"	"1152x864@75"	"1024x768@60"	"1024x768@70"	"102
[00:53] <jshriver> running now :)
[00:53] <MoTec> You have to restart X
[00:53] <tpratt_> where can I get the KEY for the gos repository
[00:53] <kitche> tpratt_: gos repository?
[00:53] <kelsin> Frederick: ussually from the X console you have to ctrl-alt-F# to get to the other terminals
[00:53] <Sepheebear> ghost: sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-theme ubuntustudio-icon-theme
[00:53] <MoTec> Menacie: also, make sure you find all the lines that start with Modes
[00:53] <tpratt_> oops
[00:53] <tpratt_> nevermind
[00:53] <jshriver> brb
[00:53] <graft> damnit... how do i keep my sound from looping all the time?
[00:53] <Frederick> kelsin: no
[00:53] <ghost> Sepheebear: I was also kinda talking about the distro
[00:53] <Frederick> kelsin: it does not work here gives me a completely black screen
[00:53] <graft> it's completely pointless having a sound card with this nonsense happening
[00:54] <kitche> !ubuntu-studio | ghost
[00:54] <ubotu> ghost: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[00:54] <Sepheebear> ghost: well im running pretty stock gutsy with just the ubuntustudio theme on top
[00:54] <ghost> ah got it
[00:54] <sipsipclick> graft, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2252946   ?
[00:55] <Sepheebear> ghost: but afaik ubuntustudio just adds a few apps, sounds, and graphics
[00:55] <ghost> fair enough
[00:55] <Sepheebear> ghost: no real core difference
[00:55] <Dankchild> hey guys, im running the livecd trying to change the size of a partition with gparted but it says its mounted, what do i do?
[00:55] <ghost> no kernel patches or anything like that
[00:55] <Sepheebear> ghost: no
[00:56] <kitche> ghost: ubuntu-studio kernel has a kernel patch for low latency
[00:56] <kelsin> Dankchild: I would download the gparted live cd and boot into it
[00:56] <Pelo> Dankchild,  gparted on the 7..10 live cd is a bit buggy, try the 7.04 live cd instead if you have it , if not right cick the partiton and select unmount
[00:56] <graft> sipsipclick: not quite like that... seems to only happen when the sound is stopped playing
[00:56] <kelsin> Dankchild: n/m my comment, I read your line wrong
[00:56] <ghost> kitche: really? why would't desktop have that as well?
[00:56] <astro76> Dankchild, right click in gparted and unmount
[00:57] <graft> sipsipclick: like, if i play something with mplayer, the last half-second will loop after it finishes playing. also the process will hang and won't die until killed
[00:57] <kitche> ghost: it's for audio programs a desktop doesn't really use low latency that much it's for sound not for networking
[00:57] <Sepheebear> kitche: i've never seen the ubuntustudio kernel package. where did you get it
[00:57] <kitche> Sepheebear: it's right int he ubuntu repos
[00:57] <sipsipclick> graft, is it just with mplayer?
[00:57] <ghost> kitche, I thought low latency processing was handy for a lot of things?
[00:57] <graft> sipsipclick: no, with anything
[00:58] <ghost> kitche: like gimp and diskcacheing and whatnot?
[00:58] <kitche> ghost: umm it's mostly for sound really and video processing when making a movie or recording audio and such
[00:58] <nokompranos> anyone had success loading the latest ubuntu on dell inspiron 6400 - my X never seems to work
[00:58] <Dankchild> astro76: i did that and it gives me an error saying cannot blah blah blah mounted.
[00:58] <Pelo> nokompranos,  what is the videocard on that comp
[00:58] <Pelo> ?
[00:58] <steven_laptop> setup up a new server and ordering parts tomorrow but have "A"? witch is better go Daul Xeon 3.0 or
[00:59] <kelsin> Dankchild: oh did you mean the ubuntu livecd? If you continue having problems I would go download the Gparted livecd, good one to have around
[00:59] <steven_laptop> setup up a new server and ordering parts tomorrow but have "A"? witch is better go Daul Xeon 3.0 or intel Exreme Quad
[00:59] <Dankchild> so ive heard, ill try that.
[00:59] <ghost> kitche hm. do you know of a good site I can read about the kernel's and specifically ubuntus? im sure its in the documentation site but I havn't found that. I want to build my own kernel on this box sooner or later to streamline it
[00:59] <steven_laptop> touchy fingers sorry all double posting
[00:59] <ghost> additionally I would like to speed up my boot process all together, Ubuntu boots much slower then my gentoo install did (but in ubuntu my stuff actually works lol)
[01:00] <Pelo> ghost,  go into menu > system > admin > services and uncheck all the services you donT' use
[01:00] <Menacie> MoTec, still no luck
[01:01] <MoTec> Menacie: are you using an ATI card?
[01:01] <ghost> Pelo, already did that
[01:01] <Menacie> nVidia
[01:01] <Menacie> 7600GS
[01:01] <ghost> Pelo but if i build a much smaller kernel with all my needed modules built in shouldn't that boot faster?
[01:01] <Netham45> "proxyDHCP offers were received. No DHCP offers were recieved."
[01:01] <Netham45> I'm getting that when trying to network boot
[01:01] <Pelo> Menacie, what are you trying to do ? boot the live cd ?
[01:01] <Menacie> no, i've installed ubuntu, but i cant get 1680 x 1050 resolution
[01:02] <xTheGoat121x> So my processor runs approx. 10 degrees warmer in Ubuntu than it does in XP
[01:02] <Pelo> ghost,  I'm not that leet ,  there wre a few articles on digg about speeding up the boot in ubuntu, try searching there and see if you can come up with anything
[01:02] <xTheGoat121x> so that the fan is on nearly constantly.
[01:02] <michael> Im attempting to dl NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run, seems simple straight off the site, but i think there is a command that would make it easier, anyone have an idea for a command or could walk me through the installation proccess so i could properly install it this time ^^
[01:03] <Pelo> xTheGoat121x, cpufreq might help   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[01:03] <michael> Using Gutsy Gibbons-
[01:03] <ghost> hey is their any reason to run both apmd and acpid at the same time?
[01:03] <kelsin> ghost: Probably, but we're talking milliseconds here, the main thing to speed up boot is to turn off things you don't need, check out the /etc/rc2.d directory and see what is there that you probably don't want running all of the time
[01:03] <MoTec> Hmm, Menacie is gone
[01:03] <kelsin> michael: the restricted driver manager worked for me on my nvidia machines
[01:04] <Administrator_> is that posibale to replace win xp pro whit linux ubuntu for all usage?
[01:04] <eth01> turn of colour for grub load.
[01:04] <ghost> kelsin, hm... do you know of a good resource for reaserching the linux init process?
[01:04] <michael> ok, let me check
[01:04] <kelsin> Administrator_: depends on your uses
[01:04] <eth01> and 5 countdown.
[01:04] <Pelo> Administrator_, most of it , I haven'T realy used windows in over a year
[01:04] <ghost> kelsin that is a gray area for me
[01:04] <Pelo> Administrator_,  do you have any odd or very specialised apps you need to run ?
[01:04] <kelsin> ghost: no sorry :), but you def will get more use looking at what's started in runlevel 2 (the /etc/rc2.d dir) then researching kernel startup
[01:04] <Administrator_> old games , videos , voice files , surfing net?
[01:05] <Administrator_> old games , videos , voice files , surfing net?
[01:05] <ghost> kelsin, that sounds logical
[01:05] <kelsin> Administrator_: depends on the old games, but linux can definitely work with media and the net juts fine
[01:05] <Pelo> Administrator_,  old games you might need to run on wine if you realy want to play them , voice files I am not sure what you mean, I can play all videos I have, and I surfing the net is not an issue at all
[01:06] <ozzy> xd i've now down something
[01:06] <ozzy> and the sides are black :S
[01:06] <ghost> WOW there is a lot of stuff in there
[01:06] <michael> Kelsin_: ima try this and be abck in a sec-- needs restart
[01:06] <Administrator_> old games usually commandos 2 , stratiges games that aple to play with 32vga
[01:07] <ghost> kelsin, is it possible to 'comment out' these scripts? I assume there is some kind of rc config file
[01:07] <xTheGoat121x> Pelo, I already have frequency scaling set up.
[01:07] <Pelo> Administrator_,  you can try the live cd and give ubuntu a try without installing it , or you can install it and dual boot, a lot of ppl do that and try is out fully installed for a while
[01:07] <ghost> I don't want to delete these scripts as i wouldn't know how ot remake em
[01:07] <kelsin> ghost: you can use the update-rc.d program to manage them, and others
[01:07] <kelsin> ghost: the files in the /etc/rc2.d folder ar ejust symlinks to /etc/init.d
[01:07] <ghost> kelsin I thought that just adds and removes them...
[01:08] <kelsin> ghost: there are graphical utilities to manage it as well, yes it does just add and remove, and that's all you need to do to remove them from startup, it doesn't touch the original scripst in /etc/init.d
[01:08] <ghost> kelsin, i assumed its something like that... I just don't want to break a link to something i need
[01:08] <Administrator_> & what about cbt's?
[01:08] <ghost> kelsin oh excellent
[01:08] <kelsin> ghost: of course, but that's the full list of what is run at startup
[01:08] <ghost> Thanks
[01:08] <Pelo> Administrator_,  by default you cannot run windows app or games on any linux distro, but you can install wine ( which uses the windows api thingy ) and run most windows apps and games, specialy the older ones,  you can look your cames up on their site to know if they hvae been tried and the results,   www.winehq.org
[01:08] <ghost> like... ppp support...  who still uses modems in the age of home offices lol
[01:08] <Pelo> Administrator_,  cbt?
[01:09] <kelsin> you can also read the /etc/rc2.d/README file, it suggests a renaming method so you still even know what was there
[01:09] <Pelo> ghost, many ppl don'T have relaible or cheap hi-speed in their area you'd be surprised
[01:09] <ghost> Pelo, true true.
[01:09] <Administrator_> like cbtnuggets , learnkey
[01:10] <ozzy> i still cant get my resolution sorted:(
[01:10] <Administrator_> products
[01:10] <ghost> kelsin, would it be possible (im sure it is) to bind the launching of the bluetooth service to the hardware toggle script i made?
[01:10] <MoTec> Administrator_: if you have to run specific windows apps you're better off with windows... if you have flexibility about the app you run, and are willing to try alternatives.. ubuntu can easily replace windows for general use.
[01:11] <ghost> like, i want to start the service when i start the hardware and turn it off when not...
[01:11] <Pelo> Administrator_,  don't know what those are, but like I said you can always try to run wndows stuff on wine and see if it works properly, but we prefer to suggest you try looking for a linux alternateive, most of which are free
[01:11] <kelsin> ghost: yeah, you can always call those init.d scripts (as root) with "/etc/init.d/script-name start"
[01:11] <Pelo> ozzy, do you get a gui ?
[01:11] <SuperKonny> Hello, I am trying to use ssh -D for a SOCKS/HTTP proxy, but I am not understanding how to do so I don't guess.  I keep getting my current login .
[01:11] <ghost> maybe I should make that a forum post.
[01:11] <MoTec> Administrator_: And the package manager has a great deal of packages listed.. You can boot off of a live cd, explore what's available, easily, using the package manager.
[01:11] <jrib> SuperKonny: ssh -D PORT user@host
[01:11] <ghost> I should probably read more on init and bash scripting in general before I mess with that
[01:11] <dana_bad> everytime i open system -> preferences -> hardware information the program immediately closes
[01:12] <JonathanD> good evening
[01:12] <SuperKonny> jrib: I am wanting to so that people can use my server as a connection (proxy)
[01:12] <SuperKonny> jrib: not login to my ssh shell
[01:12] <Pelo> dana_bad,  you have an actual problem , this has been mentionned before but I ahve never seen a fix in here,  check the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:12] <SuperKonny> jrib: would that require something else ?
[01:12] <Administrator_> ok i there another than wine that run all app
[01:12] <Administrator_> ?
[01:12] <Pelo> ozzy,  I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[01:12] <ozzy> Pelo, yes i get a lot of different options to change resolution, just not 1680 x 1050
[01:13] <jrib> SuperKonny: yes, afaik
[01:13] <nixNewb> howdy, i just installeed ubutunu 7.04 server on a comp, how do i control it via ssh?
[01:13] <MoTec> Administrator_: windows
[01:13] <ghost> kelsin, does the built in 'session' gui app control what is found in the etc/rc2.d/ linkfolder?
[01:13] <Administrator_> yes
[01:13] <MoTec> That's the alternative to wine, if you must run windows apps
[01:13] <Administrator_> and whats x windows
[01:13] <ghost> nixNewb, you have to install the ssh server on the 7.04 server
[01:13] <alysh> hey people, is ubuntu sent any of you a big update pack about an hour ago? (00:00 PM)
[01:13] <Administrator_> ?
[01:13] <nixNewb> how do i go about doing that?
[01:13] <DIL> yea
[01:14] <Pelo> ozzy, ah , that is easy , open a terminal , type  gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   add the resolution you need to the list, respect the synatx , save, restart X ( ctrl _alt _backspace) and go back to the resolution dialog box
[01:14] <nixNewb> if i try sudo apt-get install ssh-server it asks me for the cd, i put in the cd, then it asks me for the ced
[01:14] <joseph> how do i look up my gateway adress in ubuntu...its ipconfig in windows
[01:14] <nixNewb> *cd
[01:14] <MoTec> x windows is the core graphical system used in linux
[01:14] <PriceChild> nixNewb, openssh-server
[01:14] <alysh> DIL: yea, to me? :P
[01:14] <nixNewb> joseph, ifconfig
[01:14] <DIL> ifconfig
[01:14] <joseph> no i tried that
[01:14] <joseph> it doesnt show gateway
[01:14] <ghost> nixNewb: I don't know off the top of my head but ~man openssh-server should give you all the info you need
[01:14] <AndrewB> JonathanD: woop!
[01:14] <DIL> yep
[01:14] <JonathanD> AndrewB: hello there.
[01:14] <MoTec> x windows it has nothing to do with the windows opeating system
[01:14] <kelsin> shono that only affects what is run when the gnome-session process starts up
[01:14] <jrib> SuperKonny: google "ubuntu proxy server" maybe
[01:14] <nixNewb> PriceChild, it then asks me for my cd, which i put in, but then it says the cd is invalid (even though I just used it to install the os)
[01:14] <Pelo> alysh, updates come and go , over the last week I have had severals, some very large  it is pretty normal
[01:14] <Administrator_> and whats x windows?
[01:14] <SuperKonny> I don't see how hard it is to install a HTTP proxy, I mean , the IRC BNC was easy
[01:15] <nixNewb> or should i be asking how do i update the apt-get resource list
[01:15] <PriceChild> nixNewb, remove the cd from your sources list (system > preferences > software sources)
[01:15] <kelsin> Administrator_: x windows is the software the handles gui apps in linux
[01:15] <Pelo> Administrator_,  the softare that controls your windows basicaly
[01:15] <Administrator_> like wine?
[01:15] <kelsin> Administrator_: it's the real low level code handling window creations and management
[01:15] <ghost> Administrator_: x windows is the 'windows' that your programs appear in. It is the graphical user interface (gui)
[01:15] <astro76> SuperKonny, the users will need logins to use ssh as a proxy
[01:15] <nixNewb> PriceChild, as server edition i have no gui, what file do i edit?
[01:15] <MoTec> In computing, the X Window System (commonly X11 or X) is a display protocol which provides windowing on bitmap displays.
[01:15] <trebaruna> Is there an easy way to tell forcedeth to take a specified MAC address if the one supplied by the motherboard is invalid (nForce4)? It gives an invalid one after suspend, and now the driver generates a random MAC
[01:15] <MoTec> wiki ftw :)
[01:15] <kelsin> Administrator_: wine is a copy of the windows api, not quite the same as X windows
[01:16] <SuperKonny> astro76: huh?
[01:16] <Pelo> Administrator_,  wine is a sort of emulator but not an emulator,   x is the part of the prog taht manages your graphics
[01:16] <nixNewb> found it online
[01:16] <nixNewb> thanks guys
[01:16] <nixNewb> /etc/aptsources.list
[01:16] <nixNewb> /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:16] <Administrator_> ok is there only wine for open win apps?
[01:16] <ghost> Administrator_: don't worry, it is a difficult conept to understand at first.  Like in windows there is a program called 'explore.exe' that is the X11 in linux
[01:16] <kelsin> Pelo: (W)ine (I)s (N)ot an (E)mulator! :)
[01:16] <MoTec> Administrator_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System more than you ever wanted to know about X
[01:17] <Pelo> Administrator_,  cedega is another one, but it  cost money, wine is pretty reliable
[01:17] <kelsin> Administrator_: wine tries to run windows programs, it will try and run any windows program with varying degrees or correctness
[01:17] <alysh> Pelo: Of course, but i'm suspected about my server for a while. First, i update on Bilgi University server (~100MB] half hour later, when i switch Intergania server i took one more 100MB too. Because of that i asked about updates. Is this normal and two updates are different packages, or first server is screwed?
[01:17] <komputes> Administrator_: crossover office but it's $$$, also vmware
[01:17] <SuperKonny> astro76: I tried ssh -D LocalIP#:aporthere , and it just gives me the ssh help again
[01:17] <dana_bad> Pelo: thanks
[01:17] <MoTec> Administrator_: Seriously... If you have to run windows apps, run windows.  If you don't have to run specific windows apps there are a great many alternatives that run great, instead.
[01:18] <Pelo> alysh, I just opened the upgrade manager and I have 22 aps available,  and I upgraded about 2hrs ago
[01:18] <rhpot1991> I have a box running gutsy (and mythtv) which randomly crashes for no good reason, maybe twice a month, I have checked syslog and there isn't anything of importance in there from the time of the crash (I can see a cron job that runs every 5 minutes, then a long gap of time till it gets a reboot signal), the only error in dmesg is this: ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found (which I read isn't a concerna
[01:18] <kelsin> SuperKonny: you need to add the machine you want to connect to after that, it can't really be used as a Proxy server
[01:18] <MoTec> rhpot1991: sounds like hardware
[01:19] <ghost> Administrator_: The only thing wine is really useful for is that odd application that does not have a opensource counterpart, and for older windows games
[01:19] <alysh> Pelo: thanks, anymore person took big update pack about an hour (or more) ago?
[01:19] <SuperKonny> kelsin: So I wont be able to use ssh -D , and then for my friends to put my IP#:port in firefox, etc , and use my connection ?
[01:19] <ghost> wine fallout2 ftw
[01:19] <kelsin> ghost: I run warcraft III and wow in wine just fine :)
[01:19] <Pelo> rhpot1991, check  sudo crontab see if there is anything in there taht shouldnT' be there
[01:19] <ghost> me too lol
[01:19] <MoTec> Administrator_: Give the live cd a try.. and explore the packages available.  It's very impressive :)
[01:19] <kelsin> SuperKonny: no
[01:19] <ghost> actually i never got wow working but that was a while ago
[01:19] <rhpot1991> sudo crontab is empty
[01:19] <ghost> back when you had to do custome patches and stuff
[01:19] <SuperKonny> kelsin: that is what I am wanting.
[01:19] <kelsin> ghost: it's really wasy now lol :)
[01:20] <MoTec> SuperKonny: ssh is not a relay or proxy
[01:20] <ghost> kelsin heh yeah but i broke my addiction to wowrocks
[01:20] <Administrator_> i want just few games i fav maybe 1 only i don't play games a lot & is crossover & cedega better than wine?
[01:20] <ghost> I play GW every now and again
[01:20] <kelsin> SuperKonny: you need to look at proxy servers, like Quid
[01:20] <kelsin> SuperKonny: I meant: Squid
[01:20] <SuperKonny> MoTec: Under the man ssh , I see that -D appears to be so
[01:20] <MoTec> Administrator_: wine will likely work, then for your game or two.. How about applications?
[01:20] <rhpot1991> I see this happening every 30 mins:
[01:21] <rhpot1991> De 4 19:09:01 ultramagnus /USR/SBIN/CRON[6309]: (root) CMD (  [ -d /var/lib/php4 ] && find /var/lib/php4/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php4/maxlifetime) -print0 | xargs -r -0 rm)
[01:21] <rhpot1991> Dec  4 19:09:01 ultramagnus /USR/SBIN/CRON[6311]: (root) CMD (  [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -print0 | xargs -r -0 rm)
[01:21] <Administrator_> i try maybe 3 ditro from cd
[01:21] <Eds> Kelsin, I tried running wow with wine but I had a crappy frame rate. Lots of tearing when I was running foward and you could see the frames rendering horizontally down the screen
[01:21] <kelsin> ghost: actually same here :)
[01:21] <Pelo> Administrator_,  try wine first , since it is free , and look in add/remove menu, several games are there arlready for you to try and a few more on the net if you google
[01:21] <kelsin> Eds: were you running opengl mode?
[01:21] <ghost> kelsin; hawken deadeye
[01:21] <ghost> send me a request
[01:21] <MoTec> Administrator_: Right, explore the 'add / remove software' section.  lots of stuff to install and check out.
[01:21] <Pelo> Administrator_,  install ubuntu on a seperate partiton , you won'T regret it
[01:21] <kelsin> anyway dinner time :)
[01:21] <nixNewb> I got it working, thanks guys
[01:21] <ghost> I need to install it still
[01:21] <SuperKonny> kelsin: can that be installed without being root ?
[01:21] <nixNewb> I had to change the /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:22] <Administrator_> i like specific games i don't play game usaly
[01:22] <Eds> Kelsin: Yeah I was, I also made the registry hack changes I had to do. Everything looked fine just went I ran alone I could see the render. Albiet I was using a 8800GTS which may or may not be supported
[01:22] <Administrator_> maybe fav just commandos 2
[01:22] <Administrator_> & maybe stratagy
[01:22] <SuperKonny> nixNewb: I like those Suddenlink commericals, "suddenly, we're connecteedddd"
[01:22] <rhpot1991> I'm working on the assumption that thats something php needs done, as I didn't add it to any crontab anywhere
[01:23] <Pelo> Administrator_,  neither do I , but like I said you can dual boot for a while and see if they work,  still have your widows install so you can go and play then if they don't , and worst case scenario you can always run windows as a virtual machine inside ubuntu to play those games
[01:23] <Pelo> Administrator_,  there are several alternatives
[01:23] <comicinker> as soon as I open a menu I cannot make a screenshot. is there a small trick, maybe?
[01:23] <Pelo> Administrator_, giving it a good try is the best thing you can do
[01:24] <nickrud> rhpot1991: if you look in /etc/cron.d , you'll probably see what was added
[01:24] <Administrator_> if wine dont meet what i need is a crossover & cedega maybe dose?
[01:24] <Pelo> comicinker, how are you trying to take the screenshot ?
[01:25] <comicinker> Pelo: with the print key
[01:25] <Pelo> Administrator_,  you'd have to ask in a crossover or cedega channel
[01:25] <Administrator_> thx
[01:25] <Pelo> comicinker, I was hoping you were using the app, let me try
[01:25] <MoTec> SuperKonny: You using something like: ssh -D 8888 remote.host.name
[01:25] <Bikerbob> anyone here help with fglrx on ubuntu?
[01:25] <Pelo> comicinker,  doesnt, work for me either
[01:26] <Administrator_> whats more stable ubuntu 7.10 or ubuntu 7.04
[01:26] <ghost> Oh ntfs support is already installed on 7.10, how strong is it now?  I currently have a 60gig Vista partition and a 25 gig ubuntu partition... I need the Vista one the larger simply because Games are huge these days... my hope though was to use that partition for storage for both OS's
[01:26] <comicinker> Pelo: didn't know about that app. thats it. thanks!
[01:26] <rhpot1991> purges hanging php sessions it seems
[01:26] <rhpot1991> in /etc/cron.d I have php4, php5, anacron, and mdadm
[01:26] <dana_bad> ghost: i write to my ntfs partitions all the tiem
[01:26] <rhpot1991> all seem normal
[01:26] <sethk> ghost, as you know, reading from the ntfs partition is not a problem.
[01:26] <Pelo> Administrator_,  7.10 is the latest, it is very stable for most ppl , a few seem to have dificulties but that happens in every release , it is usualy caused by hardware issues
[01:27] <ghost> the only thing yo ucan't do is change permissions right?
[01:27] <sethk> ghost, the write that is considered reliable more or less runs in an emulation engine, I believe
[01:27] <ghost> because NTFS has that whacked out permission's scheme
[01:27] <sethk> ghost, yes, that's true.
[01:27] <Phill> Ok; I'm trying to edit my mouse behavior so it's like a middle click (it's this extra button) how can I go about doing that, I think it's possible with xvkbd, xmodmap and xf86-input - all installed.
[01:27] <rhpot1991> if hardware was failing shouldn't there be some sort of error at some point?
[01:27] <Administrator_> is it beter than 7.04
[01:27] <xTheGoat121x> So my CPU frequency is set up properly, but I'm still getting a fan that turns on every 30 seconds or so
[01:27] <Administrator_> ?
[01:27] <sethk> ghost, the point is not so much that it is whacked out, rather M$ won't release the details.
[01:27] <rhpot1991> I ran smartctrl on the root drive today, checked out fine
[01:27] <dana_bad> ghost:  and sethk: you cant edit any file meta data to my knowledge
[01:27] <Batlas> Anyone know if Macromedia has some 64 bit support for flash yet?
[01:28] <rhpot1991> I believe I have run memtest on this box before, though I can try again
[01:28] <Phill> The button; can be configured like so...
[01:28] <ghost> now i know it works all and well good in NTFS, but as I understand Vista is using a newer version of NTFS?
[01:28] <sethk> xTheGoat121x, that's not necessarily a problem
[01:28] <Phill> xmodmap -e "keycode 122 = F5"
[01:28] <Pelo> Administrator_,  I think so , but the default theme could use a little work,  it's not a problem anyway youcan change theme pretty easily
[01:28] <Phill> My main problem; is if someoen can tell me what the middle click "key" is.
[01:28] <sethk> ghost, I didn't think so about vista, but this is #ubuntu and I'm hardly a vista expert
[01:28] <nickrud> rhpot1991: if it's a box, reset all cards,chips, and cables. Worked for me over half the time
[01:28] <stib> Hi all - I made a backup of my linux root partition using dd, before wiping the drive. Now I've restored the drive but I can't install grub. One thing I noticed that the drive numbers have all incremented, so instead of it being on sda2 the linux partition is now sda5. Could that be my problem?
[01:29] <Administrator_> ok how much size for swap i need?
[01:29] <ghost> Basically I just want to store my large data in that partition... music and movies, etc, that way I can have access to both
[01:29] <Pelo> !grub | stib
[01:29] <ubotu> stib: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:29] <ghost> from what I am hearing that should be perfectly suitable
[01:29] <sethk> rhpot1991, memtest86 has major improvements.  Nevertheless, testing memory effectively is close to impossible
[01:29] <rhpot1991> I guess I'll try that out and then make a forum post with my syslog and dmesg if it dies again
[01:29] <Pelo> Administrator_,  2x RAM
[01:29] <rhpot1991> I can always get my ram replaced too
[01:29] <Phill> So basically; all I need is someone to go to terminal and type in... "xbindkeys -k" click middle click; and tell me what it returns.
[01:29] <sethk> ghost, you can certainly read the files from linux.
[01:29] <Pelo> Administrator_,  you can let the isntaller take care of that
[01:29] <sethk> ghost, so if you don't mind writing them in vista, you are set
[01:29] <sethk> ghost, obviously that's not a real solution
[01:29] <SpookyET> hi
[01:29] <ghost> I would want to write
[01:29] <rhpot1991> crucial lifetime warranty and all
[01:30] <ghost> right right thats like terrible
[01:30] <stib> Pelo: I've run the grub installer from my install disk, but it dies with a fatal error
[01:30] <ari_stress> morning all
[01:30] <SpookyET> Does tracker index pdf files. I can't find any of my stuff.
[01:30] <Pelo> stib,  wht is the error ?
[01:30] <dana_bad> ghost: as far as i can tell vista and xp use the same file system
[01:30] <xTheGoat121x> sethk, alas, when the CPU still runs 10 degrees hotter in ubuntu than it does in XP... yeah, it's an issue.  Plus, I don't want to shorten the life of my fan.
[01:30] <sethk> ghost, I'm very conservative.  File system problems have a nasty way of remaining hidden until you destroy all your data.
[01:30] <ari_stress> SpookyET: i believe so
[01:30] <kazol> My flash drive is being mounted as read-only erratically-any solutions?
[01:30] <dana_bad> ghost: i'd recommend trying it out with a live cd
[01:30] <Administrator_> is it beter if i increase it or its ok with 2x ram?
[01:30] <Pelo> kazol,  ntfs format ?
[01:30] <ari_stress> SpookyET: maybe because your nickname is too spooky for trankerd :D
[01:30] <sethk> xTheGoat121x, have you tried setting the speed manually?  Not as a solution, but as a test to see if that's the problem.
[01:31] <kazol> Pelo: VFAT
[01:31] <SpookyET> ari_stress: he
[01:31] <joseph> i type wine "/media/sda2/Program Files/EA GAMES/Battlefield 2" -opengl                 and it gives me this error   wine: could not load L"Z:\\media\\sda2\\Program Files\\EA GAMES\\Battlefield 2.": Invalid handle
[01:31] <Pelo> Administrator_,  I barely use mine,  2xram is fine for the majority of ppl , if you have a lot of memory you can probably make it smaller  by a lot i mean 4 gig +
[01:31] <Phill> exit
[01:31] <SpookyET> ari_stress: it also does not seem to be deleting old entries that don't exist.
[01:31] <Phill> woops; wrong thing.
[01:31] <Pelo> kazol,  chmod the mount point
[01:31] <SpookyET> it's idle
[01:31] <gordonjcp> swap is an outmoded concept
[01:32] <joseph> i type wine "/media/sda2/Program Files/EA GAMES/Battlefield 2" -opengl                 and it gives me this error   wine: could not load L"Z:\\media\\sda2\\Program Files\\EA GAMES\\Battlefield 2.": Invalid handle
[01:32] <gordonjcp> memory is cheap
[01:32] <CyberMad> i want to configure xorg.conf because there is problem with my monitor, when entering ubuntu my monitor display: "Out of Range   H 63,7 KHz   V 59,8 Hz"
[01:32] <xTheGoat121x> sethk.... I've had the processor down as far as I can get it.
[01:32] <krank_> Anyone have any advice on getting two monitors to work in 7.10? How do you tell what monitor is which?
[01:32] <CyberMad> i confuse, how to configure the monitor hertz with that information on xorg.conf ??
[01:32] <Administrator_> i have 192M ram then is 384M swap ok or beter to increase it?
[01:32] <stib> hmm, can't remember. I'll be back
[01:33] <sethk> sethk, what I mean is, do you have an independent way to measure whether the processor is really running at the slower speed, and/or do you have a way to verify that the reported temperature is correct?
[01:33] <Pelo> CyberMad,  open xorg.conf look for the vert refresh and horiz sync values,   change them for taht is listed on the label on the back of you rmonitor
[01:33] <rabidweezle> Here's an age old problem, I have a 160 gig seagate hard drive. I have a motherboard with the old 33 gig bios limitation and there is NO update for the bios available (msi...) Supposedly linux was supposed to just See the hard drive one I installed and made a partition just for /boot
[01:33] <sethk> xTheGoat121x, , what I mean is, do you have an independent way to measure whether the processor is really running at the slower speed, and/or do you have a way to verify that the reported temperature is correct?
[01:33] <]RandoM[> i screwed up the permissions on my home directory.. how do i fix it?
[01:33] <Pelo> Administrator_,  make it 1 gig of swap
[01:33] <sethk> sethk, sent a message to myself.  :)
[01:33] <Pelo> Administrator_,  also consider using xubuntu , it is a bit lighter then ubuntu
[01:33] <]RandoM[> chmod 644 doesn't do it
[01:34] <Pelo> rando chmod 755
[01:34] <komputes> ]RandoM[: do you ger an error, did you try sudo chmod
[01:34] <rabidweezle> well, it doesn't see the rest of the hard drive and I have been searching for months for a way to fix it, with kernel options and everything, nothing has worked
[01:34] <sethk> xTheGoat121x, the point is, something isn't working the way it claims to be working.  So the way to track that down is to verify the measurements.
[01:34] <CyberMad> Pelo yes, i know there is setting of Hertz... ok i found behind my monitor:  GTC Millenia, Power Rating: 100-240V ~ 50/60Hz 1.5A
[01:34] <]RandoM[> ahh.. i'll try 755
[01:34] <sethk> xTheGoat121x, if they verify, something is wrong with the way the data is processed.  If not, obviously, v.v.
[01:34] <]RandoM[> i don't get an error it just won't let me login after i change it to 644
[01:34] <CyberMad> Pelo depends on that information.. what i have to set on H and V
[01:34] <xTheGoat121x> sethk... ok, so how might I go about figuring out either one of those.
[01:35] <]RandoM[> i'll try 755
[01:35] <Administrator_> is lighter mean a speeder?
[01:35] <rabidweezle> for windows I used a DDO or a dynamic drive overlay, it's a piece of software in the MBR that tells the system it has a larger hard drive than what the bios reports
[01:35] <Pelo> CyberMad,  usual you get a mejtion V=... H=... or someting similar,  try checkingyour manual or looking up the specs of your monitor on the makers website
[01:35] <nickrud> ]RandoM[: try chmod -R 644 (you'll need to change ~/.dmrc to 600 afterwards
[01:35] <rabidweezle> it works for windows because windows didn't try to overwrite it
[01:35] <rabidweezle> but GRUB overwrites it
[01:35] <]RandoM[> ahhh thx
[01:35] <rabidweezle> hence it doesn't see the larger hard drive
[01:35] <Pelo> CyberMad,  on what I see,  set the hi value of h for 60 , not sure about the v
[01:36] <Pelo> CyberMad,  but I am only guessing
[01:36] <riotkittie>  /juo
[01:36] <riotkittie> errr
[01:36] <rabidweezle> I mean it see's it, but it gimps it down from 160 gigs to 30 gigs
[01:36] <CyberMad> Pelo i try find the manual book.. just a minute
[01:36] <sethk> xTheGoat121x, To measure the temperature you need one of those infrared temperature meters
[01:36] <michael> using Gutsy-- How can i check how much ram i have on my computer without a restart?
[01:36] <SpookyET> I'm having issues with suspend and hibernate, and when the screen is turned off. When i suspend, it shuts down. If it turns the screen off after n minutes, the screen will not turn on when i press a key.
[01:36] <jrib> michael: free -m
[01:36] <Pelo> michael,  top ?
[01:37] <sethk> xTheGoat121x, I'm thinking about a practical way to check the speed, don't have an answer to that at the moment.
[01:37] <michael> thanks ^^
[01:37] <Administrator_> whats about for 512M how much swap size beter to use?
[01:37] <rabidweezle> if anyone knows how to make it see the rest of the hard drive so I can use the full potential of the 160 gigs WITHOUT a bios upgrade or ide controller card, let me know
[01:37] <Pelo> michael,  menu > system > admin> system monitor  first tab
[01:37] <DIL> 'quit
[01:37] <Pelo> Administrator_,  512 of RAM , use 1 gig
[01:37] <matthew__> I'm trying to build some software from source, and it is complaining about a missing SDL.h.  Can you tell me what package provides that (or how to find out)?
[01:37] <michael> which is ram?
[01:38] <Administrator_> is lighter mean a speeder?
[01:38] <michael> shows a total of 503/ ised 497 and 6 free
[01:38] <rabidweezle> or if anyone knows how to hack out their own bios upgrade so it can see the higher capacity hard drives, that could be usefull too
[01:38] <michael> also says 175 chached
[01:38] <Pelo> matthew__,  open synaptic, search for sdl,  you'll probablay get somethjing like libsdl , also install the -dev package that matches
[01:38] <jrib> matthew__: packages.ubuntu.com or use apt-file
[01:38] <kelsin> matthew__: libsdl-dev
[01:39] <jimmygoon> rabidweezle, um, wait, you mean you have an ancient bios that doesn't support LBA
[01:39] <rabidweezle> it's pretty ancient
[01:39] <JJtech> lols
[01:39] <jimmygoon> matthew__, something called apt-file
[01:39] <rabidweezle> funny part is...
[01:39] <jimmygoon> matthew__, its used just lke apt-get and it tells you how to find a file
[01:39] <rabidweezle> it has 8x agp and such
[01:39] <Pelo> Administrator_, lighter means works on older machine with lower cpu and ram , so it would be faster on those machiens yes, ,  xubuntu need 500 mh cpu and 64 m ram ,  ubuntu needs 128 m ram , not sure about the min cpu
[01:39] <rabidweezle> it's just...
[01:39] <jimmygoon> matthew__, "apt-file search SDL.h"
[01:39] <adamonline45> rabidweezle: How big is your /boot?
[01:40] <jimmygoon> matthew__, it will tell you that you need libsdl1.2-dev
[01:40] <rabidweezle> just the right size as the readme's all said
[01:40] <jimmygoon> matthew__, :)
[01:40] <Administrator_> thx
[01:40] <rabidweezle> lemme double check the size though adamonline45
[01:40] <cmp1988> Hey guys, I got a bit of a problem with the flash plugin in Gutsy.  It's extremely unstable.  Youtube videos and other streaming content tend to stutter often, and once in a while, Firefox (and other browsers based upon it) will crash due to the flash.  Any advice?  I have a P4 1.8 GHz, 1.5 GB of RAM, and an ATI Radeon 9200 video card, so it's not necessarily processor speed, or RAM, maybe video card?  Thanks for help in advance.
[01:41] <matthew__> cool... installing apt-file right now (so I know how to do this in the future ;)
[01:41] <kelsin> cmp1988: convince adobe to open source flash so users can fix it, if you're already running the adobe non-free plugin that's as good as it gets
[01:41] <kelsin> cmp1988: (at least until the gnash plugin gets better)
[01:41] <rabidweezle> adamonline45, btw, this is the machine in question
[01:41] <jimmygoon> matthew__, just so you know... installing it is going to take for ever as it builds its index for the first time :P
[01:41] <cmp1988> kelsin: you have the same problem or similar?
[01:42] <Pelo> cmp1988,  that happens a lot if you have several running videos running /l;oading at once, youcan try removing all the flash from yoru system and installing the very latest from the adobe site,  they just have a new one out
[01:42] <kelsin> cmp1988: I do not, it works pretty well for me, make sure you have direct rendering enabled for your graphics card
[01:42] <rabidweezle> ok, /boot is 94 megs
[01:42] <Pelo> g'night folks
[01:42] <matthew__> jimmygoon: actually, the install was lickety split. but the search yielded nothing.  I think I need to run apt-file update first.
[01:42] <jimmygoon> Has anyone else gotten firefox3b1 running with antialiased fonts.... its looking like openoffice... (all crummy) right now
[01:42] <jimmygoon> matthew__, possible
[01:43] <cmp1988> kelsin: direct rendering is enabled, and I don't think it's the version of flash, because I've used both the current stable release and the flash 9 update RC or something like that
[01:43] <cmp1988> kelsin: oh yea, I only have 1 going at a time
[01:43] <jimmygoon> matthew__, you can also search through packages for files online: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:43] <JJtech> how to install ubuntu with less RAM?
[01:43] <ghost> Is running the 'tracker' indexing service useful for anything? what does indexing actually do?
[01:43] <jimmygoon> ghost, makes it so your files are "indexed" for faster searching
[01:43] <kelsin> JJtech: you can always use the alternate cd iso to install a text mode system and then install whatever your system can handle
[01:44] <CyberMad> 1st, i want to use 1024x768 screen resolution, ok i found the monitor manual book.. Standard: VESA/60  Resolution: 1024x768  Horizontal Frequency: 48.4kHz  Vertical Frequency: 60Hz
[01:44] <brent0n> hello, i'm having difficulties using a program, and was curious if someone could help me with it. :)
[01:44] <AriX_> anyone use a mac mini with 7.10 or 7.04?
[01:44] <CyberMad> what i have to set on HorizZync and VertRefresh ?
[01:44] <rabidweezle> you know, I just though about something adamonline45, I better check to make sure that the jumper for the 30 gig is not on
[01:44] <brent0n> i would prefer p2p, if there's someone who wouldn't mind
[01:44] <kelsin> brent0n: just ask your question/explain your problem
[01:44] <AriX_> I'm having some annoying video card issue.
[01:44] <AriX_> *issues
[01:44] <matthew__> jimmygoon: ohh.. that's really easy...
[01:44] <rabidweezle> brb
[01:44] <ghost> jimmygoon, yeah but what does that actually DO. does the indexing service build basically a database of where files are? what actually uses this, just a 'find files' function?
[01:44] <JJtech> kelsin: i only have the live CD installer... what can i do?
[01:44] <kelsin> ghost: tracker uses it itself
[01:44] <adamonline45> rabidweezle: Alright... Trying to find a doc that helped me years ago...
[01:45] <kbrosnan> jimmygoon: i did not notice any difference in the fonts
[01:45] <jimmygoon> ghost, largely.
[01:45] <kelsin> JJtech: if the live cd doesn't work on your system you're outta luck, the live cd does not include the command line installer or the text-mode installer
[01:45] <matthew__> Next question:  what does the [security] designation mean in packages.ubuntu.com?
[01:45] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, I've installed custom font packages/patches for "cleartype-like" fonts
[01:45] <AriX_> no one uses a mac minI? :P
[01:45] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, and I find it strange that both firefox and openoffice ignore those preferences
[01:45] <CyberMad> any help?
[01:45] <AriX_> meh, thanks ;(
[01:45] <rangerguy39> when i run ubuntu, all i get is a blank, orange screen
[01:45] <ghost> kelsin, basically what I am asking is, does it actually do anything useful other than finding missing text documents? or does it help with system internals
[01:46] <brent0n> ah, well, it's pretty noobish, probably. i'm having trouble running/maybe even installing(it's bad that i don't know if it's installed or not). but this program http://ushare.geexbox.org/ is what i'm trying to use, but i'm not sure exactly if i've got in installed properly, or how to configure it if it is.
[01:46] <jimmygoon> ghost, no its not system vital
[01:46] <JJtech> kelsin: so i have to download the alternate installer??? can u pls send me the link??
[01:46] <kelsin> just for user searching
[01:46] <kelsin> !download | JJtech
[01:46] <ubotu> JJtech: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[01:46] <mikeooo> anyone here run windows apps seemlessly with rdesktop and vmware?
[01:46] <nickrud> ghost: ideally, it will index the text in a pdf or web page and have it available for quick finding
[01:47] <mikeooo> wondering how "seemless" it is
[01:47] <xTheGoat121x> BRB
[01:47] <mikeooo> the screenshots look good
[01:47] <MoTec> JJtech: there is a checkbox when you you pick the version you want that says 'download alternate install cd'
[01:47] <jimmygoon> mikeooo, I'm using virtualbox and its builtin seemless... and its not
[01:47] <kbrosnan> jimmygoon: in menus or in the page content, page content is controled by the web page and lacking specific font from the web page edit -> preferences -> content -> fonts -> advanced is used
[01:47] <mikeooo> its not seemless?
[01:47] <jimmygoon> mikeooo, but hte "homebrew" rtp is pretty good
[01:47] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, menus.... etc
[01:47] <mikeooo> i was looking at rdesktop
[01:47] <kelsin> mikeooo: vmware is emulation, so speed is going to take a hit whether you use it's screen or rdesktop
[01:48] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, interace stuff
[01:48] <jimmygoon> mikeooo, its pretty decent
[01:48] <mikeooo> running a q6600 w/ 8gb of ram so processing power shouldn't be a problem
[01:48] <brent0n> anyone? :P
[01:48] <mikeooo> it would more be if the network aspect of it was slow
[01:48] <mikeooo> as far as latency
[01:48] <ghost> Is it a resource hog? It does not sound very useful to me at this point
[01:48] <mikeooo> like vmware on a gigabit lan isn't instant
[01:48] <mikeooo> or rather vnc
[01:49] <mikeooo> not vmware
[01:49] <kelsin> ghost: if you're not going to use the searching just disable it
[01:49] <cmp1988> Another question guys, Ndiswrapper won't start up at boot time yet I've done the "ndiswrapper -m" command
[01:49] <richee> how do I set the value of date in a enviroment variable?
[01:49] <kelsin> ghost: you can always turn it on later
[01:49] <mikeooo> jimmygoon does it work with all the compiz-fusion effects?
[01:49] <richee> can anyone suggest me something ?
[01:49] <kbrosnan> jimmygoon: what window manager?
[01:49] <jimmygoon> mikeooo, no idea
[01:50] <tohoyn> richee: see command "date"
[01:50] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, with and without compiz fusion --- metacity
[01:50] <kelsin> richee: "VAR=value", to make it available out of the script you have to "export VAR" after or "export VAR=value"
[01:50] <ghost> yeah I am trying to streamline this instal, sorry If am asking weird questions
[01:50] <kelsin> richee: "export DATE=`date`"
[01:50] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, give me 60 seconds and I'll have a screenshot
[01:50] <mikeooo> do the menus lag at all?
[01:50] <cmp1988> ghost: no questions related to Ubuntu are weird questions, unless you're trying to ask something weird ;)
[01:50] <mikeooo> and does alt tab work?
[01:51] <ghost> what is your opininn of zsh?
[01:51] <ghost> can zsh safely replace dash
[01:51] <BlaenkDenum> broomhead0: good job
[01:51] <broomhead0> thanks blaenk
[01:52] <broomhead0> i need some help installing ubuntu onto a mac
[01:52] <BlaenkDenum> no problem
[01:52] <kelsin> ghost: dash is meant to just be a posix /bin/sh, zsh is more rightly compared to bash
[01:52] <Pici> ghost: Er, I wouldnt do that.
[01:52] <BlaenkDenum> broomhead0: just ask the specific question, remember to say that you're on a mac
[01:52] <broomhead0> yea ok thanks man
[01:53] <ghost> so i shouldn't integrate it to replace the default bash terminal
[01:53] <CyberMad> how to set the HorizSync and VertRefresh on xorg.conf  I don't know the range, i think i will use this: 1024x768 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 48.4kHz
[01:53] <CyberMad> please help me :)
[01:53] <kelsin> ghost: replacing bash for your login shell is fine, replacing dash is not
[01:53] <broomhead0> Can someone help me boot ubuntu onto a mac, I've already burned the ISO onto a disc and made a new partition
[01:53] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, http://mickens.us/fonts.png
[01:53] <BlaenkDenum> CyberMad: do you know the model of your monitor?
[01:53] <dantheman440> hi
[01:54] <broomhead0> anyone?
[01:54] <ghost> dash is the one all of the ubuntu scripts are based on then?
[01:54] <kelsin> broomhead0: are you seeing an error or anything? Have you tried booting the disc?
[01:54] <dantheman440> um..im having problems with getting java to work on mozilloa firefox
[01:54] <kelsin> ghost: dash is posix compliant shell, so yes
[01:54] <broomhead0> what should I press when I start up, c or shift?
[01:54] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, as you can see, its not even quite the same...
[01:54] <CyberMad> BlaenkDenum yes, GTC Millenia with model GM562
[01:54] <jimmygoon> :/
[01:54] <kelsin> ghost: no reason to change it, you can change your login shell to /zsh using chsh all you want
[01:54] <ghost> posix is the standard for kernel interactive terminals?
[01:54] <dantheman440> How do i get java to work on firefox?
[01:54] <BlaenkDenum> CyberMad: google it, look specifically for a page that's selling it, and it should say the frequencies
[01:55] <SpookyET> How do you configure the "gnome-main-menu"? I want to add more apps to favourites and enable the search bar.
[01:55] <BlaenkDenum> CyberMad: that's what I did a few years ago, now ubuntu automatically picks it up for me
[01:55] <Frederick> folks Im having problems setting up my monitor it is a lcd monitor from lg and ubuntu seems to be borking it I got a geforce 8800 gts mobo anyone had similar issues? I also seem unable to use multiple terminals
[01:55] <jimmygoon> SpookyET, right click on the ubuntu icon and hit "edit menus"
[01:55] <kbrosnan> jimmygoon: going to reboot to my 7.10 install
[01:55] <MrStonedOne> what is that command to make a "snapshot" of the installed packages with apt-get, to be re-installed later
[01:55] <kelsin> ghost: posix is a standard for the operating system to say how /bin/sh should act. A lot of distros use bash for /bin/sh, but ubuntu replaced it with dash which is more minimal and JUST contains the posix standard pretty much
[01:55] <ghost> kelsin, that will basically then launch zsh instead of bash anytime gnome wants to run a terminal
[01:55] <kelsin> ghost: yes
[01:55] <ghost> kelsin... ok that makes sence
[01:55] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, don't spend too much time on it... its not a big deal... I will post on the forums and see what others think
[01:55] <CyberMad> BlaenkDenum ok, just a minute
[01:56] <broomhead0> kelsin: you think you could help me?
[01:56] <jimmygoon> its definetly not mission criticla or anything
[01:56] <kelsin> broomhead0: I have no experience with macs
[01:56] <broomhead0> ok then thanks anyway
[01:56] <RazzoRz> hey folks
[01:57] <flughaffen> im having trouble setting up sharing on ubuntu gutsy
[01:57] <Frederick> and I wonder why in hell ubuntu in recovey mode does not allow me to use multiple screens
[01:57] <RazzoRz> having issues getting my mic working in innotek vbox... anyone know how to fix this issue?
[01:57] <LadyNikon> Frederick: please watch your language
[01:58] <cabrioleur> Frederick, single user mode? you can use screen...
[01:58] <sethk> Frederick, that's an odd question.  It's recovery mode, the idea is to be as simple as possible and to always boot, even if there are problems associated with the display
[01:58] <Frederick> sethk: oki but the normal mode does not boot
[01:58] <kelsin> flughaffen: what type of sharing?
[01:59] <ramza3> I have firefox 3 beta (installed without apt) and firefox <IP_ADDRESS>.  I think I am using the commercial player with FF2 and the free one with FF3.  Is there a way to set FF3 to use the commercial flashplugin.
[01:59] <sethk> Frederick, indeed, but the purpose of recovery mode is to fix the problem.  It's not designed to be a reasonable environment for routine things.
[01:59] <Frederick> sethk: I get a black screen while booting in "normal" mode
[01:59] <sethk> Frederick, ok, first step, then, is to look at the X log in recovery mode
[01:59] <flughaffen> kelshin, filesharing between 2 gutsy machines
[02:00] <Frederick> already done error in locking authority file
[02:00] <tonyr1988> About half of the time, my USB hard drive that's mounted at /home (formatted ext3), mounts as read-only, and if I try to "mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1", it says it's write-protected. Any ideas?
[02:00] <Frederick> sethk: ive installed ubuntu like 40 times
[02:00] <kelsin> flughaffen: as long as ssh is running you can get to them using the sftp method of "Connect to Server" in places
[02:00] <Frederick> and I got no clues this time I wonder it can be related to a borked support to my lcd monitor
[02:00] <sethk> Frederick, if you install it twice and still have a problem, the other 38 times are wasted
[02:00] <sethk> Frederick, it's possible
[02:00] <flughaffen> kelshin, ssh?
[02:00] <Frederick> sethk: ive installed 40 times sucessfully
[02:00] <Ademan>  does anyone know of a good resource to get into network programming?  I know next to nothing (although i do understand a lot of the low level stuff, ie the sockets apis) I imagine there are plenty of higher level concepts though that a well designed network system would be good to adopt, the "handshake" immediately comes to mind but i imagine there are other high level concepts or patterns worth learning about
[02:01] <Ademan> i know that's at least midly off topic, sorry
[02:01] <yoyo> hello all
[02:01] <sethk> Frederick, Oh, I thought you meant that you keep reinstalling on this machine
[02:01] <Frederick> but without multiple screens I cant even use a text based browser
[02:01] <sethk> Ademan, go do #ubuntu-offtopic and I might have a few ideas
[02:01] <Ademan> already there :-p
[02:01] <kelsin> Ademan: networking class at your local community college? Even if you don't want to take it, finding out what books they use would be a good start
[02:01] <Frederick> Ademan: ask in programming c or linux get freacking advanced programming in the unix enviroment and dont flood
[02:02] <Frederick> advanced nework programming in the unix enviroment I think the autor is stevens
[02:02] <kev_b> anyone know, is there an up-to-date list of webcams that work (well) in ubuntu?
[02:02] <Ademan> Frederick: well i just pasted it over into ubuntu-offtopic when i realized i was offtopic here, and thanks for the book suggestion
[02:02] <Frederick> sethk: so any ideas?
[02:02] <MrStonedOne> What is the command to make a "snapshot", or a list of the installed packages with apt-get, to be re-installed later with a similar command??
[02:03] <Frederick> folks anyone here with experience in setting up lcd monitors and nvidia cards in ubuntu?
[02:03] <Xdange1> guys can a miss configuration of /etc/jhosts file cause the computer to move slow
[02:03] <sethk> Frederick, configure X so that there is only one resolution, one that you know the monitor can handle.
[02:03] <sethk> Frederick, if you have another monitor, plug it in and see what happens
[02:03] <kelsin> MrStonedOne: "dpkg --get-selections" you can pipe that to a file to save it
[02:03] <linduxed> my icedtea doesnt seem to work, im opening a site with a java game and it doesnt load at all
[02:03] <linduxed> any ideas?
[02:04] <Frederick> sethk: I can try it in fact I did it, well lets assume I have no other monitor cause I wont have a second monitor to every emergency on my life
[02:04] <MrStonedOne> kelsin: and how can i reinstall
[02:04] <kelsin> linduxed: are you opposed to install the sun-java6-jre?
[02:04] <Frederick> sethk: Ive installed both nvidia glx and nvidia-kerneçl
[02:04] <linduxed> kelsin: no its just that iced tea was what got suggested for install
[02:04] <Xdange1> guys can a miss configuration of /etc/hosts file cause computer to move slow
[02:04] <yoyo> can somebody help me with PPA pls ? I did a package build on PPA, called the package mplayer - 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13~ppa2 instead of mplayer - 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13 and did add the "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/myppa/ubuntu gutsy main universe multiverse" to my source.list. but apt-get-upgrade still install mplayer - 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13 and not my PPA version
[02:05] <Frederick> Xdange1: yes
[02:05] <kelsin> MrStonedOne: dpkg --set-selections is the first step, after that there is a command to install them, if you google with get and set you'll find it quick
[02:05] <IpMooIng> question time.. rare
[02:05] <matthew__> Can you tell me what [security] next to a package name means? (on packages.ubuntu.com)
[02:05] <Xdange1> Frederick: well that seems to be my case
[02:05] <Xdange1> Frederick: how do i reset the settings
[02:05] <IpMooIng> about the root account.. when i change  pass its wont  work
[02:05] <linduxed> kelsin: so remove iced, install jre and t should work?
[02:05] <kelsin> linduxed: I would suggest using the sun-java6-jre package that's listed in the java list instead of ice-tead. It's working well and great for some things but it's not fully compatible with sun's java yet
[02:05] <matthew__> Or better yet, how I look that up?
[02:05] <Frederick> Xdange1: you can edit the file
[02:06] <sethk> yoyo, temporarily disable the repository that has the version you don't want.
[02:06] <ejt> hello
[02:06] <sethk> yoyo, then, in synaptic, reload and do the install.  Then turn that repository back on.
[02:06] <linduxed> kelsin: should i remove iced completely?
[02:06] <MrStonedOne> thanks kelsin
[02:06] <kelsin> linduxed: up to you, but if you goal is just to use java on a home machine then yes I'd suggest that
[02:06] <lex_> I appear to be having an issue with dvdrip; when trying to use the program I encounter: The movie has 171092.736 frames, but only 146067 were ripped. This is most likely a problem with your transcode/libdvdread installation. I've checked the installs and even reinstalled them but keep getting this error. Any insight?
[02:06] <linduxed> kelsin: thx
[02:07] <ejt> I have found an issue in the command line expansion in Makefiles... it appears to only occur in Ubuntu (out of Fedora or OS X, which all use the same GNU Make 3.81)
[02:07] <tonyr1988> Is there anything important I need to remember about mounting an ext3 external hard drive? 1/2 the time, it works fine. 1/2 the time, it mounts read-only.
[02:07] <Xdange1> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost
[02:07] <Xdange1> <IP_ADDRESS> infamous-ego.cm.flowja.com infamous-box.MSHOME
[02:07] <Xdange1> i dont kno whats wrong
[02:08] <ejt> I at first blamed bash, but the Fedora bash is older than 7.04, which is older than OS X 10.5, which is older than 7.10
[02:08] <kelsin> Xdange1: what's running slow?
[02:08] <hvgotcodes> how do i tell which version of fglrx i have?
[02:08] <Frederick> fglrx -v?
[02:08] <yoyo> sethk, it's not a good way. if i do apt-get upgrade later it will reinstall the normal package. i'd like to have upgrades from ubuntu but have my packages overwriting the standart one.
[02:08] <hvgotcodes> no fglrx is the ati driver
[02:08] <ejt> so the only consistent thing is Ubuntu, unless bash broke, fixed, and then broke again
[02:08] <Xdange1> kelsin: like i open a file it will take longer than the usual
[02:08] <yoyo> sethk, and as i understood PPA have provision for what.
[02:09] <sethk> yoyo, then try moving the repository with the version you want above the other one.
[02:09] <carlosss> why the words on amsn its so little that i cant read it ?
[02:09] <Xdange1> first i thought it was a hardrive issue
[02:09] <kelsin> Xdange1: open a file in what, just the gnome text editor or something like that?
[02:09] <yoyo> i tried on the top and at the end.
[02:09] <jsoftw> ok
[02:09] <kelsin> Xdange1: is you lo interface up "ifconfig" in a terminal at least lists lo as up
[02:09] <ejt> figured I'd check here if anyone wants to try a 3 line Makefile...
[02:09] <buttercups> hvgotcodes, fglrxinfo
[02:10] <ejt> oh the other weird thing is the expansion works properly on the command line itself...
[02:10] <sethk> yoyo, I never upgrade.  I install what I need.  wholesale upgrade is a really bad idea.  Also, in synaptic, you can disable any part of the upgrade before doing the actual installs.
[02:10] <ejt> it seems to only break in Ubuntu, within a Makefile
[02:10] <slowthy> is there any software that I can use to transfer music on to my zune in ubuntu?
[02:10] <hvgotcodes> is 8.34.8 the most recent?
[02:10] <RazzoRz> having issues getting my mic working in innotek vbox... anyone know how to fix this issue?
[02:10] <yoyo> do somebody use Launchpad PPA here and know about package naming for PPA to overwrite standard packages pls ?
[02:10] <kelsin> ejt: can you post in pastebin a test file with your expansion and the behavior on different systems?
[02:11] <hvgotcodes> buttercups: is 8.34.8 the latest version
[02:11] <hvgotcodes> ?
[02:11] <Xdange1> kelsin: yes lo is up
[02:11] <ejt> sure... one sec
[02:11] <yoyo> sethk,  i need to keep the software up to date. :)
[02:11] <ghost> hey guys it looks like my system is hanging on 'set the clock' during my bootup. what is the appropreate logfile that shows my boot?
[02:11] <kazol> Anyone here familiar with inserting page numbers in OpenOffice?
[02:11] <crdlb> yoyo: #launchpad ?
[02:11] <ghost> /var/log/boot?
[02:11] <sethk> yoyo, that is rarely true.  You may _want_ to keep it up to date, but it's highly unlikely that you truly need to.
[02:11] <buttercups> hvgotcodes, 7.11 is
[02:12] <yoyo> crdlb, launchpad.net
[02:12] <squidink> kazol: what in particular?
[02:12] <Xdange1> kelsin: lo is up
[02:12] <crdlb> yoyo: I mean have you tried #launchpad ?
[02:12] <slowthy> is there any software that I can use to transfer music on to my zune in ubuntu?
[02:12] <gaminggeek> hello
[02:12] <hvgotcodes> buttercups: how come doesnt show up for update?
[02:12] <gaminggeek> can someone remind me how to update my path?
[02:12] <hvgotcodes> i enabled the restricted drivers
[02:12] <kazol> squidink: A document in Writer; I also want the numbers to start on the second page.
[02:12] <yoyo> sethk, believe me i need
[02:12] <jrib> gaminggeek: why?
[02:13] <hvgotcodes> i didnt get it manually
[02:13] <yoyo> crdlb, :) oh sorry, i will
[02:13] <sethk> yoyo, why?
[02:13] <kelsin> ejt: at the top of your not working makefile can you set "SHELL = /bin/bash" and also try with "SHELL = /bin/sh"?
[02:13] <jimmygoon> slowthy, does the zune use libmtp? if so rhythmbox with the "MTP Devices" plugin turned on may work
[02:13] <jsoftw> I have trouble with suspending my ubuntu box. Basically the machine becomes unresponsive afterwards.
[02:13] <gaminggeek> because I have installed something manually and its not seeing the new libary it installed
[02:13] <jsoftw> Which is unacceptable.
[02:13] <jsoftw> :P
[02:13] <buttercups> hvgotcodes, video drivers are not updated after a stable release of Ubuntu
[02:13] <jrib> !who | gaminggeek
[02:13] <ubotu> gaminggeek: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[02:13] <jrib> gaminggeek: what exactly?
[02:13] <squidink> kazol: I think you need to create a new section
[02:13] <gaminggeek> jrib: swfmill
[02:14] <ejt> kelsin: here's what I was doing: http://pastebin.com/m33204849
[02:14] <adante> hi
[02:14] <ejt> I'll try the shell thing you suggest
[02:14] <yoyo> sethk, cause i develop for a hardware platform and i use up to date softwares sometimes even SVN..
[02:14] <kelsin> gaminggeek: the system path is defined in /etc/environment, if you just want to set it yourself you can add "export PATH=/usr/local/bin;$PATH" in your .bashrc, obviously replace /usr/local/bin whith what you need
[02:14] <gaminggeek> jrib: swfmill: error while loading shared libraries: libswft.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:14] <kazol> squidink: Section?
[02:14] <adante> i need a package (imagemagick) compiled with a specific option (lossless jpeg) - is there any way to do this via ubuntus package management or do i have to compile it manually?
[02:14] <sethk> yoyo, that means you need to have newer version of software.  It doesn't mean you have to be lazy and just upgrade everything.
[02:15] <hvgotcodes> buttercups: Im intersted in having compositing goodness using xcompmgr, instead of relying on compiz-fusion.  will upgrading that driver make xcompmgr better?  compiz-fusion handles shadows/translucency no prob, but xcompmgr does not....
[02:15] <ejt> kelsin: ahh, yes, it works with SHELL=/bin/bash at the top
[02:15] <yoyo> sethk: sorry, we do not understand each others.
[02:15] <macabro22> Hello
[02:15] <ghost> How do I view my bootlog? and is it possible to see my bootlog timestamped?
[02:15] <kelsin> ejt: ubuntu uses dash for /bin/sh, it's posix compliant
[02:15] <jrib> gaminggeek: where is that file?
[02:15] <macabro22> My mozilla-mplayer won't load any videos. Mplayer alone will. Can someone help
[02:15] <macabro22> ?
[02:16] <kelsin> ejt: so now you know that technically that syntax isn't posix :) but you can override the shell with SHELL obviously, glad that fix was easy lol
[02:16] <ejt> kelsin: hmm, so what of the expansion? is {h,cc} not posix compliant?
[02:16] <gaminggeek> jrib: just updatedbing atm I will tell you when its done
[02:16] <CommonClone> I am trying to install ubuntu on a computer that has vista on it, and the partition menu doesn't see the hard drive
[02:16] <CommonClone> any ideas?
[02:16] <jsoftw> CommonClone: hmm
[02:16] <ejt> kelsin: (or is it just a bug in dash)
[02:16] <jsoftw> CommonClone: trouble.
[02:16] <kelsin> ejt: yeah, if you run "/bin/sh -c 'ls file.{1,2}'" it will also complain
[02:16] <jsoftw> CommonClone: Im not much of an expert with grub, sorry
[02:16] <kelsin> ejt: I'm not 100% but my best guess is that {} isn't in posix
[02:17] <kelsin> ejt: a lot of normal bash stuff isn't
[02:17] <ejt> kelsin: wow, alrighty then, that's a new one for me, thanks!
[02:17] <CommonClone> jsoftw: Im in the gui partitioner
[02:17] <jsoftw> Oh right
[02:17] <jsoftw> CommonClone: what does it say the partitions are?
[02:17] <buttercups> hvgotcodes, the new drivers are still buggy and new, although they do support compiz without xgl
[02:18] <CommonClone> jsoftw: it doesnt see any
[02:18] <kelsin> CommonClone: what type of hard drive? just a normla ide of SATA internal?
[02:18] <CommonClone> jsoftw: WD normal ide
[02:18] <hvgotcodes> buttercups: im wondering if it will help non-compiz based compositing
[02:19] <CyberMad> how to lock ubuntu panel so user can not delete it
[02:19] <CommonClone> sorry, that was meant for you kelsin
[02:19] <jsoftw> CommonClone: hmmm...
[02:19] <jsoftw> CommonClone: strange.
[02:21] <CommonClone> how do I install from cmd line?
[02:21] <jrib> !apt > CommonClone (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:21] <buttercups> hvgotcodes, probably not
[02:21] <darwub> hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas? x11 gives me the right aspect but xv, gl2 and others do not
[02:22] <jrib> CyberMad: look into pessulus and sabayon though I am not sure.  library.gnome.org may help too
[02:22] <hvgotcodes> buttercups: if i get a new video card will any nvidia or intel graphics card be ok for that?
[02:22] <lex_> darwub: you using it from the cmd line?
[02:23] <gaminggeek> jrib: /usr/local/lib/libswft.so.0
[02:23] <jrib> gaminggeek: hmm weird, does runnig 'ldconfig' help?
[02:23] <buttercups> hvgotcodes, don't know never had a nvidia, support for ati is horrible, i hear good things about nvidia
[02:24] <hvgotcodes> ok thanx
[02:25] <gaminggeek> jrib: yes thank you that was the command I was looking for :)
[02:25] <CommonClone> jrib: i meant how do I install ubuntu from command line?
[02:26] <jrib> CommonClone: a text install?  Use the alternate cd
[02:26] <Flannel> CommonClone: You need the alternate CD
[02:26] <Casey> How do I remove GRUB? I just installed Windows OEM version and I get GRUB with error 17
[02:26] <smooker4> Hi all
[02:26] <smooker4> how do i save files to SDA6 if it doesnt have mount point.. ?
[02:26] <jrib> smooker4: mount it
[02:27] <ubuntu_> hi
[02:27] <smooker4> how do i mount it ?
[02:27] <CommonClone> I can't just switch to cmd line mode and install?
[02:27] <smooker4> if i click right i seee only unmount
[02:27] <jrib> CommonClone: no
[02:27] <jrib> smooker4: then it is probably mounted
[02:28] <smooker4> but i cant save files there
[02:28] <ghost> this is unrelated but does anyone know what the Xbox 360 hacker irc channel is?
[02:28] <jrib> smooker4: why? what happens when you try?
[02:28] <smooker4> what is the path ? i am trying to set KTorrent
[02:28] <toby_> this is un related too but: What impact may Kazza have if running on a companies PC?
[02:28] <jrib> smooker4: type 'mount'
[02:28] <slowthy> is there any software that I can use to transfer music on to my zune in ubuntu?
[02:28] <smooker4> where ?
[02:28] <jrib> !offtopic | toby_
[02:29] <ubotu> toby_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:29] <jrib> smooker4: in a terminal
[02:29] <toby_> Thanks sorry
[02:29] <skyfalcon866> !ffmpeg
[02:29] <CommonClone> jrib: can I format my hd with vista installed on it from the cmd line on the live cd?
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <smooker4> oic /dev/sda6
[02:29] <ghost> toby i will answer that for you
[02:29] <ghost> Don't do it
[02:29] <jrib> smooker4: that's not the mount point, that's the device name
[02:30] <smooker4> aw
[02:30] <ghost> your IT department won't like it.
[02:30] <ghost> And if found you doing that on MY network, i would have you fired
[02:30] <slowthy> atleast use a non-crap program
[02:30] <yaro> I will ask my support question as soon as I am sure I need to ask it here.
[02:30] <skyfalcon866> !mencoder
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mencoder - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <smooker4> \dev/sda6 on /media/sda6 type ext3 (rw)
[02:30] <jrib> CommonClone: what does "from the cmd line" mean?  Yes, you can format it on the live cd, and yes there is a command line on the live system
[02:30] <LjL> yaro: uhm... ok
[02:30] <jrib> smooker4: yes, /media/sda6 is the mount point
[02:31] <yaro> Okay. I got it.
[02:31] <hellonull> hey i just booted into ubuntu for the first time a week or so and i have 73 updates to install... but when i say "install now" 39 of the packages appear under "NOT AUTHENTICATED"... amongst these are perl, php5, and firefox. what does this mean?
[02:32] <CommonClone> jrib: it can't see my HD in the gui partitioner, I wanted to try it from the cmd line, but I tried fdisk /dev/hda and it tells me unable to open, I think vista did something dumb to the HD and now I can't see it
[02:32] <slowthy> atleast use a non-crap program
[02:32] <slowthy> wait
[02:32] <ghost> hellonull, your authentication key is outdated
[02:32] <slowthy> forget that
[02:32] <ghost> I usually just ignore it
[02:32] <scguy318> hellonull: that means for some reason the GPG key for your repos seem to be outdated or missing
[02:32] <LjL> !gpgerr > hellonull    (hellonull, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:32] <yaro> As far as I can tell, my problem is somewhat common, but a clear solution, as far as I can tell, has not been determined. My friend recommend I come here and ask. So I am.
[02:32] <slowthy> is there any software that I can use to transfer music on to my zune in ubuntu?
[02:32] <ghost> hellonull: if you are only downloading from the offical repos you shouldn't have any problem
[02:33] <ghost> if you mix repositories... becareful
[02:33] <RazzoRz> can someone help me with a mic issue with 7.10???
[02:33] <jrib> CommonClone: did you use sudo?
[02:33] <Flannel> slowthy: Does your zune show up like a USB harddrive? or what?
[02:33] <scguy318> slowthy: not really, unless you count a VM product for running XP