[16:10] <[manas]> th1, i intalled packedges but still doesnt work
[16:10] <Tiders-> Is UCP worth the 350 dollars to get it?
[16:10] <sin7ax> what's the command to remove a symlink?
[16:10] <joaopinto> lwells, yes
[16:10] <ccooke> Horribly kludged, but it works
[16:10] <BlouBlou> lwells: yes, it's more recommendable than with alternate CD
[16:10] <lwells> Anything I should be careful about?
[16:10] <th1> sin7ax, rm
[16:11] <san2345> wer can i get a .deb for roaing penguin
[16:11] <awop> I just updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and now it won't boot. It is telling me I have to install the kernel first. Anyone have any ideas why?
[16:11] <c3l_> is there any working solution to read files in my ubuntu from windows?
[16:11] <BlouBlou> lwells: maybe you should backup your important files
[16:11] <san2345> or can anyone help me to build the source for rp
[16:11] <shahdharmit> I m going to install Karmic on my laptop. I already am running Fedora 11. What care should I take so that there's no problem in GRUB and that I can load both OSes perfectly?
[16:11] <Dergel> who can help me with my grub problem?
[16:11]  * Tetsu1992 Ubuntu 9.10 got someproblem on laptop
[16:11] <Sarge_TJ_> Sarge_TJ, ok
[16:11] <c3l_> Dergel, whats the problem?
[16:11] <joaopinto> shahdharmit, there is a grub linux os prober that should detect both systems
[16:12] <Appiah> Hello I upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic , now my Wired and Wireless connection wont work , ifconfig -a just shows loopback
[16:12] <[manas]> th1 i installed w64codecs,libdvdcss2
[16:12] <yos> How do I make the task bar re-appear ?
[16:12] <fission6> where is pidgin installed by default on ubuntu
[16:12] <san2345> please some one atleast say if there are the build essentials present to build the roaring penguin package
[16:12] <skyred> my Ubuntu Update Manager hasn't notified me about 9.10. why?
[16:13] <Dergel> c3l_: i get the error 15. i tried update-grub with a live-cd but it says "cannot find list of partitions!"
[16:13] <th1> [manas], install w32codecs as well
[16:13] <shahdharmit> joaopinto: Ok. When I installed 9.04, I had to work around alot and had to manually modify the conf file whenever there was a kernel update in Fedora
[16:13] <lwells> Is Karmic a stable platform now, or should I wait?
[16:13] <joaopinto> shahdharmit, you could try to run "sudo os-prober" frm the livecd, to check if it will detected your other partition
[16:13] <Appiah> fission6: /usr/bin/pidgin ?
[16:13] <levu> who can help me with my grafic problems?
[16:13] <IdleOne> skyred: what version you running now?
[16:13] <[manas]> th1 but i got 64 bit machine
[16:13] <janis96> no pdigin :'(
[16:13] <shahdharmit> ***Tetsu1992 : What problem does it have?
[16:13] <th1> [manas], and restart your media player if you didn't already ..
[16:13] <Blu3_Scr33n> hello
[16:13] <th1> [manas], you need both the codecs packs
[16:13] <jpds> lwells: Yes.
[16:13] <skyred> IdleOne, 9.04
[16:13] <joaopinto> shahdharmit, well, I don't know how "smart" os-prober is with a Fedora install :)
[16:13] <quickvfr> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 (i386).  On boot, I get to the splash screen, it flickers black, goes back to the splash; over and over, etc.  Any suggestions?  My AMD64 machine upgraded without issue.
[16:13] <tesuki> fission6: pidgin is removed on 9.10, empathy is the new IM client.
[16:13] <fission6> Appiah: fission6: /usr/bin/pidgin ? nope
[16:13] <MK13> !grub
[16:13] <Blu3_Scr33n> 9.10 rocks
[16:14] <lwells> jpds: It is stable?
[16:14] <spowers> i can't turn off compiz animations module in 9.10, anyone else notice this?
[16:14] <[manas]> th1 thanks stupid me
[16:14] <IdleOne> skyred: look and see in the Software sources if you have your updates set to Normal releases
[16:14] <MK13> how can i add a new OS to the grub menu?
[16:14] <Appiah> fission6: thats where it is
[16:14] <fission6> nah i have pidin i can find its path and its plugin folder for that mater
[16:14] <jpds> lwells: It's been released and officially supported.
[16:14] <th1> [manas], you're welcome
[16:14] <sin7ax> th1: rm ln -s??
[16:14] <Blu3_Scr33n> very good indeed
[16:14] <janis96> tesuki: and empathy has no IRC tools
[16:14] <joaopinto> pidgin is available, it is just not installed by default
[16:14] <shahdharmit> joaopinto: :) I'll give it a try. Thanks.
[16:14] <th1> sin7ax, just "rm NAMEOFLINK"
[16:15] <EvanCarroll> pidgin > empathy
[16:15] <EvanCarroll> that new program sucks
[16:15] <EvanCarroll> what an unpolished piece.
[16:15] <Appiah> pre karmic
[16:15] <lwells> jpds: I am more concerned with the upgrade process
[16:15] <th1> it will just delete the symlink
[16:15] <skyred> IdleOne, checked. it's normal releases and I ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade once, can't find 9.10
[16:15] <AppleBoy> is there any difference between the desktop and server version in tweaks at the network layer?
[16:15] <theclaw> hi
[16:15] <fission6> okay the program is there /usr/bin (as expected) trying to find the plugin folde
[16:15] <janis96> hi
[16:15] <jumpkick> Is there a way to get variables loaded into the ENV during init?  i.e. does /etc/profile get loaded for scripts executing from the /etc/init.d/* directory?
[16:15] <Athena28> Hola
[16:15] <FloodBot2> EvanCarroll: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:15] <theclaw> how do I enable xsplash on karmic? (I upgraded from jaunty). Does it work with radeon graphiccards?
[16:15] <th1> EvanCarroll, go to Ubuntu Software Centre and reinstall pidgin :)
[16:15] <janis96> EvanCarroll: youre right
[16:15] <sin7ax> i know this is gonna sound stupid... but how do i know what the name of the link is...? and is it stored in a file like 'env' somewhere?
[16:15] <LjL> EvanCarroll: please, discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:15] <shahdharmit> For the first time I am excited for Ubuntu. I've been using Fedora since I shifted to Linux about 8 months back.
[16:15] <LjL> (others: same)
[16:16] <EvanCarroll> th1: the upgrade didn't uninstall it.
[16:16] <brunop> ... is definitely G43 not supported by ubuntu ?
[16:16] <th1> sin7ax, pls describe what it is you're trying to do in more detail because I'm not sure I follow you
[16:16] <IdleOne> skyred: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:16] <erUSUL> brunop: intel chips are well supported by ubuntu. but jaunty has issues with them
[16:16] <erUSUL> !intel | brunop
[16:17] <brunop> erUSUL: and karmic has more...
[16:17] <sshc> Dergel: devslash: if you haven't solved this already, you probably forgot to choose a device (with spacebar) when you were configuring it
[16:17] <ShadowHawkBV> Anyone know how to get "System/Administration/HardWare drivers" to reset itself and show the restricted drivers that are installed?
[16:17] <henryklyczkowski> 9.10 Have many bugs
[16:17] <awop> I just updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and now it won't boot. It is telling me I have to install the kernel first. Anyone know why?
[16:17] <[manas]> th1 look sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[16:17] <[manas]> Reading package lists... Done
[16:17] <[manas]> Building dependency tree
[16:17] <[manas]> Reading state information... Done
[16:17] <[manas]> E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[16:17] <FloodBot2> [manas]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:17] <sin7ax> th1: i created a link from ~/.gvfs/foo to /mnt/k   what i really wanted was ~/.gvfs/foo/k to /mnt/k
[16:17] <erUSUL> brunop: anecdotal evidence (yours) is not evidence at all ;)
[16:17] <IdleOne> !medibuntu | [manas]
[16:17] <skyred> IdleOne, sudo do-release-upgrade seems to be working
[16:17] <tesuki> janis96: you can connect to IRC with it. you just have to add a new IRC account.
[16:17] <shahdharmit> Oh, does BCM4312 work well under Karmic? I needed to download some stuffs to make it work on Fedora.
[16:17] <Travis-42> how do I set the user for a cron.daily script, or should I use /etc/crontab or the crontab -e command (a little confused)
[16:18] <th1> sin7ax then just rm /mnt/k
[16:18] <IdleOne> skyred: glad it did
[16:18] <i_is_broke> manas, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:18] <erUSUL> shahdharmit: you have to install b43-fwcutter package online to dl the firmware
[16:18] <[manas]> IdleOne, i add it
[16:18] <janis96> tesuki: oh youre right
[16:18] <wsch> so why is 64bit 9.10 not listed?
[16:18] <sshc> Dergel: devslash: to fix your grub 15 error, you need to find a way to boot, and then "apt-get purge grub-pc && apt-get install grub-pc" (or grub2 if that's what you installed)
[16:18] <shahdharmit> erUSUL: Okay...
[16:18] <erUSUL> wsch: where ?
[16:18] <Guest69371> hi. I have run the upgrade from 8.4 to 9.10 and all proceeded without errors however I have a problem; when i get to my desktop I'm limited to a 800x600 display. when i use the display tool from system->preferences it does not give me any options other than 600x480 and 800x600. I see that the monitor is not detected however hitting the detect monitor button does nothing :( how i can i get a decent resolution please? note i'm not after anything extraordi
[16:18] <Guest69371> nary just 1280x1024 would be nice :)
[16:18] <janis96> but i think pidgin is better
[16:18] <wsch> erUSUL, homepage
[16:18] <sin7ax> "rm cannont remove /mnt/k: Is a directory
[16:18] <skyred> IdleOne, thanks
[16:18] <erUSUL> wsch: amd64 == 64 bits
[16:19] <brunop> erUSUL: the symptoms described are not what i get since the jaunty release...
[16:19] <sshc> Dergel: devslash: you can burn either an ubuntu CD or a supergrub CD
[16:19] <erUSUL> !cli | sin7ax
[16:19] <wsch> erUSUL, if i click download theres no option to choose 64 bit, i know amd64 is 64bit
[16:19] <LjL> ehm, how do i get to know which X video card driver my Hardy is actually using, given it's left unspecified in xorg.conf?
[16:19] <devslash> ok
[16:19] <EvanCarroll> you know, there is a certain quality of stupid in FloodBot2 reprimanding users publically for conversing publically in order to eliminating traffic -- I mean out of all things that should go over pvmsg that is the poster child.
[16:19] <wsch> erUSUL, i know i can go trough a mirron and get it there
[16:19] <Pici> LjL: Look at your xorg log file
[16:19] <wsch> erUSUL, i just think its a really retarded decision not to list it on the homepage
[16:19] <th1> [manas], sorry you're right
[16:19] <LjL> EvanCarroll: feel free to discuss that in #ubuntu-ops. there is a reasonfor that, anyway
[16:20] <Dergel> anyone can help me with my grub2 error 15?
[16:20] <stefano_> ciao
[16:20] <[manas]> th1 look http://paste.ubuntu.com/305179/
[16:20] <stefano_> !list
[16:20] <boraklavun> hello everyone
[16:20] <sshc> Dergel: can you scroll up, and read what I said?
[16:20] <erUSUL> LjL: grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log should shed some light
[16:20] <stefano_> msg ubottu !bot
[16:20] <tom___> hi guys...  short question:  i made a comparison kubuntu vs. ubuntu on my laptop...  and ubuntu turned out to be MUCH faster....  Does anyone have an explanation for this?
[16:20] <erUSUL> wsch: ok; understood
[16:20] <th1> [manas], why are you downloading it manually?
[16:20] <Dergel> ohh sorry... yes
[16:20] <HorizonXP> my touchpad is shaky since upgrading to karmic; help?
[16:21] <sshc> Dergel: you pretty much need to reinstall grub-pc
[16:21] <tom___> (both with desktop effects enabled etc...
[16:21] <LjL> stefano_: con un / all'inizio. per parlare in italiano, /join #ubuntu-it
[16:21] <boraklavun>  ı would like to ask som  question about ubuntu 9.10  amd 64 bit
[16:21] <module000> ccooke: excellent...just got back to the office so a delayed response ;]
[16:21] <[manas]> th1 trying to be cool
[16:21] <sshc> Dergel: your mistake is that you didn't select any options in the device thing
[16:21] <[manas]> th1 oll
[16:21] <th1> [manas], if you *really* want to install 32 bit packages you can do it with --force-architecture
[16:21] <[manas]> th1 lol
[16:21] <sshc> Dergel: (press spacebar to select it)
[16:21] <[manas]> th1 i just want to watch movie
[16:21] <bernardo_> hi guys, after upgrading to 9.10, my videos now got this very strong blue-ish color, what can I do?
[16:21] <boraklavun> first of all anyone installed 9.10 and how is the difference
[16:22] <LjL> erUSUL: i suppose "(II) NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2" hints that i'm using "nv" rather than "nvidia"?
[16:22] <[manas]> th1 and i dont care if it 32 bit or 64
[16:22] <Dergel> well im already in with a ubuntucd...
[16:22]  * gburton adjusts bernardo_'s monitor connection
[16:22] <th1> [manas], if you just want to watch movie then follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[16:22] <gburton> there, done
[16:22] <_sana> I have a problem with ubuntu's clock; it changes from time to time, what can I do  ?why does it change ?
[16:22] <ShadowHawkBV> Anyone know how to get "System/Administration/HardWare drivers" to reset itself and show the restricted drivers that are installed?  I have the nvidia drivers installed, but because it doesn't show there, I can't get compiz to work.
[16:22] <HorizonXP> i upgraded to karmic, and my touchpad is now very shaky and jittery when i use it. any ideas on how to fix it?
[16:22] <bernardo_> gburton, only the videos, my monitor is OK, screen right now has the correct colors
[16:22] <LjL> _sana: changes like what? i'm not sure, but i think by default the ubuntu clock is supposed to be synced from the internet
[16:22] <bernardo_> but if I open up a video it has this blueish tone
[16:22] <sshc> Dergel: are you booted onto a live sesion?
[16:23] <_sana> LjL how can i stop being synced from the internet ?
[16:23] <[manas]> th1  i did i installed packageds but it same shi...
[16:23] <erUSUL> LjL: probably. the nvidia driver is more verbose :)
[16:23] <Dergel> yeah... im already chroot and so.
[16:23] <sshc> Dergel: I'd suggest burning supergrub
[16:23] <th1> [manas], which media player are you trying to use
[16:23] <marko-_-> i can't add mp3's to k3b, how do i fix that?
[16:23] <LjL> _sana: i'm not sure, there might be an option in the clock setting dialog, but i'm not on gnome and on an old ubuntu version so i don't really know
[16:23] <sshc> Dergel: if you're using your normal filesystem, you can reinstall it already
[16:23] <[manas]> th1 totem
[16:23] <marko-_-> i can't add mp3's to k3b, how do i fix that?
[16:24] <[manas]> th1 it played before
[16:24] <_sana> LjL thanks man
[16:24] <sshc> Dergel: you can burn supergrub and use it to boot normally
[16:24] <Dergel> complete reinstall?
[16:24] <KiiK> hi, i cannot find msgcat command on my Ubuntn, what can i do
[16:24] <sshc> Dergel: only reintally grub-pc
[16:24] <_sana> LjL looks like the timezone was not right
[16:24] <sshc> Dergel: nothing else
[16:24] <_sana> now all is ok :)
[16:24] <_sana> i had problems with messages on maillists :)
[16:24] <Guest69371> hi. I have upgraded 8.4 to 9.10 and i'm limited to 800x600 screen resolution. please how can i increase the resolution? system->preferences->display did not offer any other options
[16:24] <th1> [manas], try reinstallnig mplayer
[16:24] <Dergel> ok... ill try it
[16:24] <Jaredu> guest - make sure that you download the drivers for your graphics card
[16:25] <sshc> Dergel: you just need to boot normally, and then apt-get purge grub-pc && apt-get install grub-pc
[16:25] <[manas]> th1 how?
[16:25] <sshc> Dergel: you can use Synaptic Package Manager to reinstall it too
[16:25] <Dergel> all right thx ill try this
[16:25] <th1> [manas] sudo aptitude reinstall mplayer
[16:25] <erUSUL> KiiK: install gettext
[16:25] <Guest57640> hi! I have install ubuntu with wubi,dual boot with windows.When I am starting ubuntu it's freezes down do you know why? ( third time I am here today)
[16:25] <erUSUL> Guest69371: which graphic card ?
[16:25] <vadviktor1> What is the difference between deny and reject rules in iptables?
[16:25] <Guest69371> i do not know how to download drivers for my graphics card. it seems to be an intel
[16:26] <kwagga> he he... sounds like a lot of people have been having problems with the new display system... I'm also having a big issue.... xrandr keeps telling me it can't find a display....
[16:26] <quickvfr> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 (i386).  On boot, I get to the splash screen, it flickers black, goes back to the splash; over and over, etc.  Any suggestions?
[16:26] <brunop> erUSUL: i cannot test your solution because i need to upgrade from intrepid, so do you know when it will be fixed ?
[16:26] <ShadowHawkBV> Guest69371 type sudo nano /etc/etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the line "modes "1280x1024" to the Display Subsection"
[16:26] <bluegoon> Hey chaps, if you install ubuntu 9.10 from within Windows, does it still install the Ext4 file system?
[16:26] <KiiK> erUSUL: already installed, but still not found.
[16:26] <jonte> ShadowHawkBV: ok i will try
[16:26] <erUSUL> brunop: you are in intrepid ?
[16:26] <airstrike> someone convince me to download ubuntu instead of just debian
[16:27] <module000> airstrike: why?
[16:27] <joaopinto> !ot | airstrike
[16:27] <brunop> erUSUL: its the latests version that doesn't crash
[16:27] <airstrike> joaopinto: thanks
[16:27] <th1> airstrike because you ask inside #ubuntu?
[16:27] <Guest69371> from searching i tried to manually add a subsection display with modes 1280x1024 and 1024x768 but no change was evident
[16:27] <ShadowHawkBV> airstrike Ubuntu has a nicer user facing finish.
[16:27] <erUSUL> KiiK: well the jaunty package has the binary...
[16:27] <BoredKender> can anyone tell me why i don't have a "sound" option in my system - preferences on Karmic?
[16:27] <Kottisen> When I click "Activate" nothing happend, why? http://cdn.solidfiles.net/i/8b0c79b6b908c071babb0b896c6a77fc.png
[16:27] <BoredKender> Kottisen, you need to restart after you activate
[16:27] <Kottisen> i know
[16:27] <ShadowHawkBV> Guest69371 have you logged out and then back in after changing xorg.conf?
[16:28] <hatchetman82> anyone know where i can find xse (wrapper for xsendevent) for 9.10 ?
[16:28] <Guest69371> i rebooted
[16:28] <Kottisen> but should the busston just be without anything happend
[16:28] <Kottisen> it didn't say anything
[16:28] <bratiz> how can i get cd key for ubuntu PRo?
[16:28] <erUSUL> brunop: do a clean karmic install ?
[16:28] <[manas]> th1 same sh... i reintalled player codecs
[16:28] <th1> [manas], wat's the error msg?
[16:28] <IdleOne> bratiz: ask in #ubuntupro
[16:28] <vadviktor1> What is the difference between deny and reject rules in iptables?
[16:28] <ASrock> what is the command to quit X and then what is the one to start it?
[16:28] <ionut> when i wanted  to install linux ubuntu 9.10 i got this error: ISO linux 3.63 debian ....... boot: Couldn't find kernel image: linux
[16:28] <KiiK> erUSUL: I think i am already install it. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. (9.10)
[16:28] <brunop> erUSUL: it doesn't even boot :)
[16:29] <erUSUL> vadviktor1: the msg sent back to the client i guess
[16:29] <bazhang> bratiz, there is not an Ubuntu Pro. please desist.
[16:29] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I check for and remove duplicate emails in Evolution/
[16:29] <erUSUL> brunop: then stay in intrepid... dunno what you want from me...
[16:29] <[manas]> th1 it no eror it just dont shows everything is in blue
[16:29] <vadviktor1> erUSUL: then on deny a reply is sent back, and reject is the silent version?
[16:29] <erUSUL> ASrock: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm sto|start|restart ?
[16:30] <ionut> when i wanted  to install linux ubuntu 9.10 i got this error: ISO linux 3.63 debian ....... boot: Couldn't find kernel image: linux
[16:30] <th1> [manas], ok ten its a different problem nothing todo with codec .. what graphics card do you have? and what drive?
[16:30] <outy> hey guys,  i installed ubuntu and now i cant get into windows,  i think the boot loader is pointing to the wrong partition, how can i edit the boot loader ?
[16:30] <erUSUL> vadviktor1: no drop is the silent version iirc
[16:30] <brunop> erUSUL: i just want to know _when_ the g43 will be suported
[16:30] <[manas]> th1 i got nvidia and driver dont know
[16:31] <th1> [manas], check in System->administration->hardware drivers if you got the recommended one
[16:31] <dj_> hey how can i rar an iso file
[16:31] <Guest69371> I also note that the xorg.conf from 8.40 is identical to the one 9.10 created
[16:31] <Dergel> sshc: I reinstalled grub-pc but at the end it also says "Cannot find list of partitions!"
[16:31] <erUSUL> brunop: as you can see becouse you are using it in intrepid it is already suported. if there are bugs in other version you have to report it and be willing to help the devs to see it fixed.
[16:31] <Guest69371> how can i set it to use the correct monitor please?
[16:32] <bratiz> dj_: i tolz u already !?
[16:32] <leaf-sheep> dj_: Why do you need to rar an ISO file? It is illogical. :3
[16:32] <erUSUL> brunop: just winning here wont help anyone including you. thanks
[16:32] <Guest69371> as the xorg log says that various resolutions are not available
[16:32] <[manas]> th1 yes its on the recomend one
[16:32] <dj_> leaf sheep: i want to split the iso file in smaller volumes
[16:32] <erUSUL> dj_: install the rar package then right click on the iso and choose add to archive
[16:32] <Rohtie> Can someone help me? I installed fedora 11 on my laptop which had ubuntu. Now it wont boot, not even load grub
[16:33] <bratiz> dj_: rar a -v20000 l33t-rele4ze.rar warez.iso
[16:33] <dj_> when i right click there is no option add to archive
[16:33] <brunop> erUSUL: it was reported, marked as important and never fixed
[16:33] <HorizonXP> no one has had problems with their touchpad in karmic?
[16:33] <sshc> Dergel: how did you boot?
[16:33] <IdleOne> Rohtie: #fedora should be able to help.
[16:33] <Dergel> i didnt boot it says it directly at the installation
[16:33] <antii> Hmm, I installed ubuntu (dualbooted) with windows 7 and then removed the ubuntu partition from windows, now I cant boot my windows, just getting: GRUB loading. error: no such partition, how can I get into windows again?
[16:34] <IdleOne> brunop: add a comment to that bug so the maintainer gets notified that it is still broken
[16:34] <linxeh> antii: reinstall the windows boot loader from the windows 7 cd
[16:34] <sshc> Dergel: how did you reinstall it if you didn't boot?
[16:34] <th1> antii, you deleted the partition grub was on and now it can't load. you need to reinstall the windows bootloader this is not a ubuntu question
[16:34] <erUSUL> antii: ask in ##windows how to restore the win7 bootloader from the win7 installcd
[16:34] <dj_> bratiz : v2000 is that just 20.mb
[16:34] <dj_> or its 200mb
[16:34] <MasterofPuppets> Hi all. Just a tiny question; how does one make OpenOffice do autospellcheck? I've enabled it, but misspelled words aren't being underlined.
[16:34] <bratiz> dj_: its 20mb
[16:34] <sshc> Dergel: you need to boot into your ubunt installation, and not into a live session
[16:35] <kevin009> yep. i installed an ext3 system and it still fails to checksum a copied file of 2 gigs
[16:35] <[manas]> th1 it not first time i got problems whit my card i cant run propaly my desktop configuration and compiz and etc
[16:35] <dj_> bratiz what is iz for 200mb
[16:35] <kevin009> guess i have to go back to 9.04
[16:35] <kevin009> even with ext3
[16:35] <th1> [manas], give me a second I remember something that sometimes fixes for some nvidia cards...
[16:35] <Dergel> well I started a live session and then mounted everything necessary and then chroot into my ubuntu installation... isnt that the same?
[16:35] <goatrider> is it possible to use ubuntu one on server distro?
[16:35] <outy> I DID A REALY BAD THING
[16:36] <thiebaude> kevin009, you can enable ext4 in 9.04
[16:36] <BoredKender> can anyone tell me why i don't have a "sound" option in my system - preferences on Karmic? i can't find how to set my audio to ALSA
[16:36] <IdleOne> !caps | outy
[16:36] <marko-_-> i can't add mp3's to k3b, how do i fix that?
[16:36] <outy> i moved both my toolbars to the top and made one autohide, now they are broken
[16:36] <th1> [manas], try this: go to System->Administration->Nvidia X Server Settigns and click X Screen 0 and XServer Xvideo Settings, and then click "sync to vblank" off
[16:36] <outy> sorry about caps
[16:36] <sshc> Dergel: yes, that should be the same.
[16:36] <MK13> !msg ubottu
[16:36] <erUSUL> !resetpanels | outy
[16:36] <marko-_-> !k3b mp3
[16:36] <erUSUL> MK13: /msg ubottu
[16:37] <outy> i dont have any toolbar buttons anymore and i cant make a new toolbar, its like the toolbar has bugged out
[16:37] <outy> so how do i open a terminal ?
[16:37] <MK13> erUSUL, yea i know, i just got used to justin.tv too much XD
[16:37] <Dergel> i think so... but, what can i do now?
[16:37] <th1> [manas], if it doesn't work chances are your nvidia card are screwed. then you can maybe disable the nvidia driver and it will work, but unaccelerated.
[16:37] <[manas]> th1 did it what next
[16:37] <erUSUL> outy: alt + f2 ?
[16:37] <bazhang> outy, alt f2 working?
[16:37] <goatrider> is it possible to use "ubuntu one" with out a gui?
[16:37] <bratiz> dj_: duhhhhh
[16:38] <outy> alt f2 doesnt work
[16:38] <[manas]> th1 doent work
[16:38] <bratiz> dj_: just put extra 00 in the end bro
[16:38] <dany__> hi, i can ste visual effects for applications normally but they dont work for gnome menu, any ideas why?
[16:38] <LMJ> Hi
[16:38] <th1> [manas], as I said then it's probably your card. try disabling compiz and/or the nvidia driver.
[16:38] <MK13> any way to add another OS to the grub boot menu?
[16:38] <genu_> hey...I'm trying to connect to my wireles network on my leptop...but it won't work...it has always worked with all previous versions...what can I do?
[16:38] <erUSUL> MK13: grub2 ?
[16:38] <marko-_-> !k3b mp3
[16:39] <marko-_-> i can't add mp3's to k3b, how do i fix that?
[16:39] <genu_> It works only if I disable the password on the network...
[16:39] <LMJ> Anyone noticed issues with embedded webcam on 9.10 ? Got 2 laptops where webcams was working like a charm on 9.04 but only once a while on 9.10
[16:39] <outy> so uh, i cant get to a terminal to reset the toolbars
[16:39] <[manas]> th1 let me try download diferent player
[16:39] <MasterofPuppets> Hi guys, I've enabled autospellchecking in OpenOffice, but it won't underline misspelled words. Anyone?
[16:39] <erUSUL> marko-_-: install libk3b3-extracodecs ??
[16:39] <MK13> erUSUL, yea... i have notice menu.lst is no longer used and grub.cnf says not to edit it
[16:39] <th1> [manas], chances are it will be the same if the player uses overlays/xvideo
[16:39] <marko-_-> erUSUL, thanks.
[16:39] <ricklerre1> I need to install the server kernel on an existing isntallation of karmic desktop, I installed the linux-server, linux-headers, and linux-image packages.  How exactly do I get it to boot into the kernel (not showing up in grub)
[16:39] <TURDS> ?DCC SEND "OLDSKEWL_LOVES_YOU" 0 0 0
[16:39] <IdleOne> marko-_-: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras? I believe it installs support for mp3 to applications
[16:40] <marko-_-> yes i did
[16:40] <gpgp> can anyone help me with a karmic wireless issue ?
[16:40] <docmax> how do i install ubuntu server edition on eeepc 900 ?
[16:40] <erUSUL> !ask | gpgp
[16:40] <BNF> Hi Guys! are there any command similar to the  "Select Best Server" synaptic option in console mode?
[16:40] <voodoo> Hi .... anyone has a 5.1 surround system arround here?
[16:40] <erUSUL> docmax: a server edition on a eeepc ??
[16:40] <Jaredu_> whoops, I broke empathy O_o
[16:40] <MK13> what was with that mass ban?
[16:40] <gpgp> !ask | gpgp
[16:40] <docmax> yeah
[16:41] <docmax> i wanna have eeepc as server
[16:41] <IdleOne> MK13: that was a troll using a exploit to make people get kicked off irc
[16:41] <Wipster> hi all, having a bit of trouble with getting the serial port working, in ubuntu 9.04 it worked ok now in 9.10 it doesn't (code hasn't changed) it gets down to the serialport.new command and spits an error "wrong number of arguments (5 for 2)" has anyone else seen this?
[16:41] <MK13> IdleOne, ouch
[16:41] <gpgp> sorry having trouble sseeing private messages in this new pidgin layout
[16:41] <BNF> Hi Guys! can you help me? are there any command similar to the  "Select Best Server" synaptic option in console mode?
[16:41] <Wipster> using ruby
[16:41] <[manas]> th1 no it works thit vlc
[16:41] <sshc> Dergel: if you chroot'd correctly, then you should be able to ls /dev/sda1 after you chroot?
[16:41] <Defcon1> so i just installed 9.10 and grub did not run upon restart and menu.lst does not appear to be in /boot/grub/menu.lst and advice on how to fix?
[16:41] <MK13> erUSUL, do you know how to add to the grub2 menu?
[16:41] <th1> [manas], because vlc doesn't use overlays/xvideo
[16:41] <IdleOne> MK13: seems your not affected by it :)
[16:41] <BNF> apt-spy and netselect seems not be in repositories
[16:42] <MK13> IdleOne, i think it is because i don't automatically accept dcc
[16:42] <erUSUL> Defcon1: karnmic uses grub2 so no menu.lst
[16:42] <genu_> anybody?
[16:42] <Dergel> yea
[16:42] <wsch> BNF, /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:42] <IdleOne> MK13: it has to do with a bug in some routers
[16:42] <Xisdibik> Does anyone know if the Simple Login Manager (SLiM) is in the ubuntu repos, and if so where is it located/named?
[16:42] <sshc> Dergel: if you can't reinstall grub-pc or grub2, and Google doesn't help any, you should use supergrub
[16:42] <Defcon1> @erUSUL so how would I got about adding windows for a booting option?
[16:42] <MK13> IdleOne, ohhh.... i am in my university so, the router should be pretty decent/well kept
[16:42] <usser> Defcon1, boot from the livecd chroot into your installation, and run grub-install
[16:42] <hanasaki> how can I setup my box so upto 10 people can connect with VNC or RDP and get a GDM login prompt and later disconnect / reconnect to their session without ending the session on disconnect?
[16:42] <gpgp> gnome network manager was working in alpha but is not in full release, i have also tried wicd with same results
[16:42] <genu_> The network mananger just says "linksys" activating...but it never connects....this just happends if I have a password on the network...whats the problem?
[16:42] <BNF> wsch: I know where to change i just want a tool to ping all servers and chose the best one
[16:42] <sshc> Dergel: I'm going away now, you'll need to ask somebody else or elsewhere if you need further help
[16:43] <erUSUL> Defcon1: files in /etc/grub.d/ controll that now
[16:43] <BNF> wsch: like "select best server" in synaptyc
[16:43] <usser> hanasaki, google for ltsp
[16:43] <usser> !ltsp
[16:43] <agent42> outy: got the terminal?
[16:43] <Dergel> sshc: ok then i rly try supergrub
[16:43] <Kurious> l
[16:43] <erUSUL> Defcon1: there is a /etc/grub.d/20_windows_xp in my install
[16:43] <hanasaki> usser:  thanks.. bbl
[16:43] <Kurious> hi everyone
[16:43] <Gintulis> hi
[16:43] <sshc> Dergel: but when you do try supergrub, first try booting with supergrub
[16:43] <bluegoon> er guys, just did 9.10 installation via windows, now when it boots, throws me out to a GRUB loader command prompt..
[16:44] <Defcon1> !erUSUL I have windows 7 on another partition and apparently it did not recognize it
[16:44] <[manas]> th1 so what shoul i do now wait for updates??
[16:44] <bluegoon> something about NTFS5, then the GRUB loader prompt...9.10 a bit broken when installing from Windows?
[16:44] <th1> [manas], no its your card
[16:44] <erUSUL> Defcon1: well the you will have to add it by hand...
[16:44] <hanasaki> usser:  hmm so vnc was not the way to go?   does ltsp work from win clients too?
[16:44] <gburton> ubottu: are you sure you are a bot?
[16:44] <Kurious> anyone try 9.10 netbook-remix and a bluetooth headset?
[16:44] <th1> [manas], you get a new gfx card or disable the Nvidia driver from Hardware Drivers
[16:44] <darkham> why i can't find .gvfs folder in "add folder" windows on gmusicbrowser preferencies?
[16:44] <gburton> ubottu: i dont believe you
[16:44] <[manas]> th1 a??
[16:44] <bluegoon> Any help please? :)
[16:44] <IdleOne> !botabuse > gburton
[16:44] <Defcon1> !erUSUL thats what I figured, just needed to know where the new grub list was, thanks for the help!
[16:44] <in4box> кто из Украины?
[16:45] <fizzle> anyone familiar with installing xubuntu on a ppc g3.  i have problems when booting the cd.
[16:45] <th1> !ru | in4box
[16:45] <erUSUL> !ru | in4box
[16:45] <[manas]> th1 its intergraded nvidia 8200 512mb
[16:45] <IdleOne> Defcon1: don't put ! in front of your sentence, it triggers ubottu and makes it get confuzzled
[16:45] <marcusesses> So has anyone else had problems with wireless connections in 9.10?
[16:45] <hanasaki> ltsp.org is down :(
[16:45] <gpgp> no network manager will work with my karmic install as far as wifi is concerned
[16:45] <bluegoon> Windows Black > Ubuntu install from inside Windows > Reboot > Ubuntu > Grub Loader Command Prompt > wtf
[16:45] <th1> [manas], you can try one of the other driver versions that's not "recommended"
[16:45] <vika23> i have ati 4200 hd integrated in MB , i was wondering should i use proprietary driver , or default , any idea which gives better performance, thanks
[16:45] <Kurious> 9.10 wireless is working fine for me
[16:45] <Mike_lifeguard> Is it safe to install a .deb for firefox 3.0.15 for Jaunty on a Karmic system?
[16:45] <Defcon1> @IdleOne sorry, is the proper method the @ symbol?
[16:45] <[manas]> th1 i will now
[16:45] <Letterbomb05> Hi, I'm having some trouble with 9.10... I've upgraded directly from 9.04 and I've got a few problems. The first problem I have is that my touchpad doesn't work... I'm running a Dell Inspiron 1501, can anyone help? [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8196636]
[16:46] <IdleOne> Defcon1: just the name is enough :)
[16:46] <bluegoon> Windows Black > Ubuntu install from inside Windows > Reboot > Ubuntu > Grub Loader Command Prompt > wtf
[16:46] <agent42> where to find torrent files? i want to seed isos
[16:46] <hanasaki> usser:  hmm that won't work.. I need to just share the screen and do all processing on the linux host.. no client mods other than rdp or vnc client software
[16:46] <gpgp> Kurious:  it worked for me in alpha but not since
[16:46] <antii> whoho, accesed a ubuntu livecd, how do I enter the the grub config so I can boot my windows again?
[16:46] <th1> !torrents | agent42
[16:46] <agent42> th1 tak
[16:46] <th1> agent42, yw
[16:47] <andry_> salve
[16:47] <andry_> ki c'è?
[16:47] <bluegoon> Ubuntu 9.10 just screwed me bad.
[16:47] <Defcon1> erUSUL is there an new way of calling the boot sequence? or can I just copy the way that my laptop calls windows 7 after changing all of the locations and such?
[16:47] <th1> andry_, please speak english
[16:47] <Kurious> gpgp: i actually backedup my home account and did a free install from a usb stick
[16:47] <outy> ok cool i managed to fix the toolbars
[16:47] <marcusesses> so NO network managers work, or the network manager works for wireless?
[16:47] <Debian-user> What's the command for release upgrade ?
[16:47] <erUSUL> Defcon1: "calling the boot sequence" ?
[16:47] <gpgp> none for wireless
[16:48] <IdleOne> andry_: Italiano o espagnole?
[16:48] <outy> now i need some help getting back to booting into windows
[16:48] <leaf-sheep> !upgrade | Debian-user
[16:48] <Letterbomb05> Is anyone else having a problem with sound on 9.10? Havn't had any sound since I upgraded...
[16:48] <fizzle> !powerpc
[16:48] <Debian-user> From 9.04 to 9.10
[16:48] <erUSUL> Defcon1: in my install there is a file /etc/grub.d/20_windows_xp <<< i can paste it if you want
[16:48] <bluegoon> Does ubuntu 9.10 break if you install it from Windows?
[16:48] <BoredKender> Letterbomb05, i have sound, but it is very crackly
[16:48] <Defcon1> erUSUL ya that would be great
[16:49] <BoredKender> Letterbomb05, it even crackles while mutes
[16:49] <bazhang> bluegoon, are you referring to a wubi install
[16:49] <Kurious> Letterbomb05: i have sound it is fin
[16:49] <hanasaki> does gdm in 9.10 use /etc/gdm/gdm.conf or is it now obsolete?
[16:49] <bluegoon> bazhang, yes that one, it just broke.
[16:49] <marcusesses> So any idea how to get around this wireless problem (if others have similar problems)?
[16:49] <daevski> How can I change grub back to my previous install (linux and linux side-by-side) ?
[16:49] <bluegoon> bazhang, when booting, it throws me out to GRUB LOADER Command line.
[16:49] <Letterbomb05> Hmm, is there anyone else that can't activate the visual effects? I just get an error saying they can't be enabled :/
[16:49] <wsch> !it | IdleOne
[16:49] <bluegoon> bazhang, when i say START or w/e, it sais kernel not found.
[16:49] <wsch> !es | IdleOne
[16:49] <RoyK> hi
[16:50] <gpgp> marcusesses:  i have none thats why i am in here
[16:50] <bazhang> wsch, he knows
[16:50] <robin0800> outy: /etc/default//grub
[16:50] <Kurious> anyone else having bluetooth headset problems with 9.10?
[16:50] <RoyK> is there a short/trivial 'show ubuntu version' commandline command somewhere?
[16:50] <marcusesses> ack
[16:50] <IdleOne> thank you wsch but I wanted to figure out where andry was from
[16:50] <bluegoon> set show_panic_message=true
[16:50] <bluegoon> if search -s -f -n /ubuntu/install/boot/grub/grub.cfg; then
[16:50] <bluegoon>     if configfile /ubuntu/install/boot/grub/grub.cfg; then
[16:50] <bluegoon>         set show_panic_message=false
[16:50] <bluegoon>     fi
[16:50] <bluegoon> else
[16:50] <FloodBot3> bluegoon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:50] <th1> [manas], try http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-video-playback-problem-in-compiz-fusion.html
[16:50] <HorizonXP> so is anyone having jittery touchpad problems?
[16:50] <bazhang> bluegoon, dont know anything about wubi really.
[16:50] <marcusesses> Well, I don't think this channel will help much
[16:50] <erUSUL> Defcon1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305201/ they are sh scripts
[16:50] <wsch> IdleOne, bazhang ah ok i just saw that one line i figured you were looking for italian or spanish help
[16:50] <daevski> Royk: try uname -a
[16:50] <IdleOne> wsch: :) no worries
[16:51] <gpgp> any suggestions on a channel that might ?
[16:51] <Kageno> is it me or are the updates really slow?
[16:51] <bazhang> wsch, its hard to read when it scrolls this fast :)
[16:51] <marcusesses> nope
[16:51] <nickolai> @letterbomb check if your video driver is enabled : system->administration->hardware drivers
[16:51] <pdebruic> is there anyplace I can read about the specific differences between server and desktop versions?  in server I get a seg fault but in desktop it runs fine both 9.04 and 9.10.  thanks in advnace
[16:51] <jwfoxjr> does anyone know if empathy can work with Google Apps Premier?
[16:51] <gpgp> ubuntu irc ops reccomended this channel
[16:51] <wsch> bazhang, i just came back in i didnt pay attention lol
[16:51] <Defcon1> erUSUL thanks, going to try and figure out this new grub :)
[16:51] <Kageno> apt is dling really slowly
[16:51] <jwfoxjr> I know that I can get it working with my regular gmail account
[16:51] <RoyK> daevski: that shows me kernel version and so on, not distro
[16:51] <wsch> Kageno, you can try to use another server
[16:51] <bluegoon> God damn i think i just basically threw away 30 gigs to Ubuntu
[16:51] <Letterbomb05> Does anyone know why my touchpad might not work after upgrading to 9.10?
[16:51] <marcusesses> If you go to ubuntuforums, there seem to be a lot of threads along the same lines
[16:52] <bazhang> Kageno, karmic was released yesterday, that would have an effect
[16:52] <vika23> i have ati 4200 hd integrated in MB , i was wondering should i use proprietary driver , or default , any idea which gives better performance, thanks
[16:52] <erUSUL> pdebruic: basically kernel version and selection of default packages
[16:52] <theBoon> Are 9800gt drivers available for the 64bit version?
[16:52] <IdleOne> Kageno: the servers are being hammered
[16:52] <bluegoon> hwat do you call the ubuntu within windows isntall again?
[16:52] <gpgp> yes there are manythey are hardware specific many wireless problems but
[16:52] <erUSUL> !wubi | bluegoon
[16:52] <IdleOne> bluegoon: wubi
[16:52] <bluegoon> thanks
[16:52] <bazhang> bluegoon, wubi
[16:52] <gOLDfeesh> I had an issue updating ubuntu
[16:52] <gpgp> network manager worked in alpha , i dont get it
[16:52] <marcusesses> What wireless driver are you using....and you're using network manager, you say?
[16:52] <wsch> nm-applet is basically just crap
[16:52] <n8tuser> gpgp-> and now?
[16:53] <bazhang> gpgp, which chipset
[16:53] <wsch> really really really crap
[16:53] <pdebruic> erUSUL: ok so just dpkg -l and check the kernel versions then?
[16:53] <gpgp> broad com
[16:53] <RoyK> lsb_release -r shows ubuntu release, it seems
[16:53] <gpgp> holdon
[16:53] <marcusesses> Because I thought hte problem was with network manager, so I uninstalled and installed wicd (which I was using for 9.04), and that didin't work either
[16:53] <emyller> hello
[16:53] <erUSUL> wsch: works wonderfully for me. but anecdotal evidence (both your and mine) is not evidence at all
[16:53] <gpgp> BCM4312 802.11b/g
[16:53] <emyller> how can i downgrade a package version throught aptitude?
[16:53] <cap> I have a Dell Latitude X-300 Notebook and not sure the keyboard mapping is correct for it. How can I check this and if necessary, rectify the issue?
[16:53] <wrapster> anyone using skype on 9.04(64)
[16:53]  * MBSTO use 8.04 (H)
[16:53] <daevski> RoyK: cat /etc/*-release
[16:54] <pdebruic> wrapster: yes... why?
[16:54] <cap> !keyboard
[16:54] <daevski> RoyK: That works on my system
[16:54] <wrapster> im having major issues with medibuntu pkg
[16:54]  * lupine_85 notes interestedly that LTSP and compositing just don't seem to play nicely together
[16:54] <gpgp> marcusesses:  i have tried the same
[16:54] <devin> does anyone have a problem with grub hanging for a unusual amount of time before loading the menus?
[16:54] <lupine_85> direct rendering and stuff, I guess
[16:54] <Kurious> 9.10 bluetooth problems anyone?
[16:54] <lupine_85> wonder if it'd work as a LocalApp
[16:54] <daevski> Kurious: /join ubuntu+1
[16:54] <RoyK> daevski: sure, but I was looking for a _command_, not looking through fscking etc
[16:54] <wrapster> pdebruic: all of a sudden it fails to respond and i dont even know when it dies.
[16:54] <devin> in 9.10
[16:54] <Pici> daevski: 9.10 is released.
[16:54] <bazhang> daevski, its here now as karmic is released
[16:54] <pdebruic> did it ever work?
[16:54] <IdleOne> daevski: that channel is closed
[16:54] <daevski> ohhhhhh okay
[16:55] <marcusesses> ok, first, how do I block users ? Because the signal to noise ratio on here is very low and I want to fix that
[16:55] <yancho>  anyone can help me get flash 10 work on ubuntu 9.04's firefox 3.5 please? I tried: http://queleimporta.com/en/finally-adobe-releases-native-64-bit-flash-10-for-linux/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#flashtrouble to no avail .. any help is super appreciated :)
[16:55] <marcusesses> then maybe we can sort this out
[16:55] <daevski> RoyK: Okay sorry :)
[16:55] <antii> anyone know how I can restore windows boot manager from ubuntu livecd?!?
[16:55] <soapy_illusions> does anyone know where I can go for fan issues with 9.10 (that didnt exist in 9.04)
[16:55] <wrapster> pdebruic: so i have to keep making test calls to see if its online..
[16:55] <wsch> erUSUL, i met this guy once that does unix recruitment for a company that works for NASA... he got years of experience and didnt understand why the static ip he assigned didnt work, i told him to uninstall nm-applet, and it worked fine
[16:55] <IdleOne> !grub | antii
[16:55] <gpgp> right click on name
[16:55] <erUSUL> marcusesses: disable joins parts and quits
[16:55] <bazhang> marcusesses, which client
[16:55] <th1> marcusesses, nobody is forcing you to be in here.
[16:56] <wsch> erUSUL, if even someone with that kind of experience has trouble with it, then its crap imho
[16:56] <wrapster> and after it dies i have to go to system monitor kill skype and skype real then restart it...
[16:56] <wrapster> so far the longest its worked is like 15min s
[16:56] <cap> I think the ubottu answered my question. Will tinker with it a bit and see.
[16:56] <marcusesses> how do I disable that stuff (I'm using a terminal, so is ther a command for it?)
[16:57] <[manas]> th1 no it doent work and i just realized my flash player doant work too
[16:57] <daevski> How can I change grub back to my previous install (linux and linux side-by-side) ?
[16:57] <soapy_illusions> can i get help with kernel issues here or another channel
[16:57] <erUSUL> IdleOne: most of that docs are know pretty outdated... grub2
[16:57] <bazhang> marcusesses, irssi ?
[16:57] <BoredKender> help please? after upgrading to karmic my speakers keep popping, even on mute. has anyone found a fix for this?
[16:57] <awop> I just updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and now it won't boot. It is telling me I have to install the kernel first. Anyone know why?
[16:57] <Kurious> is there a bluetooth channel?
[16:57] <marcusesses> no, sirc
[16:57] <IdleOne> erUSUL: not everybody is using grub2 but I will remember that some/most are
[16:57] <th1> [manas], try adding this line to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the Device section: Option "NoXVideo"
[16:57] <gpgp> BoredKg optionender:  it has to do with a power savin
[16:57] <th1> [manas], then reboot and see if it helps
[16:58] <gpgp> i saw it earlier in the forums
[16:58] <pdebruic> wrapster: oh not my experience at all.  it runs all day just fine.   not using medibuntu version.
[16:58] <cappiz> someone having problems with newest kernel in 9.10? i have big issues with load and my 3ware raid controller. Takes 2 min to mkdir
[16:58] <akatsuki> hi everyone
[16:58] <wsch> [manas], (on 9.04, not sure about 9.10) sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer should do the trick to make flash work
[16:58] <simplexio> cappiz: does dmesg tell something ?=
[16:58] <outy> how can i edit my grub2 config ?
[16:58] <akatsuki> what command to use to get the internal and external ip addresses of my machine?
[16:58] <th1> wsch, it's not a problem of him not having the plugin but of nvidia causing problems with xvideo
[16:58] <wsch> [manas], that should install flash 10 (there were lots of trouble with flash9, especially on 64bit systems)
[16:58] <soapy_illusions> im having fan issues in 9.10 cause of the new kernel, running full speed 24/7
[16:59] <erUSUL> IdleOne: i fearing all the messed up installs by people using directions for grub1 on grub2 installs... :S. Not to count using supergrubcd blindly on grub2 installs
[16:59] <wsch> th1, ah ok, good luck lol
[16:59] <devin> what file replaced menu.list in grub so we can edit the menus?
[16:59] <BoredKender> gpgp, do you recall where to find it or how to fix it?
[16:59] <wsch> th1, i scrolled up for the conversation but couldnt find it
[16:59] <Kurious> quit
[16:59] <erUSUL> outy: /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/README
[16:59] <erUSUL> devin: ^
[16:59] <th1> wsch, yeah ther'es a lot going on in here :)
[16:59] <gpgp> search the forums i saw it earlier today, its a known prob with workarounds in place
[16:59] <devin> erUSUL cool thanks
[16:59] <Xisdibik> So is SLiM not in the 9.10 repos, as i cant seem to find it or search apt for it :/?
[17:00] <nikitis> So are there any major issue people are having with 9.10?
[17:00] <bratiz>
[17:00] <bratiz> bok dan en son profesyonel ubuntu
[17:00] <soapy_illusions> can anyone help with fan troubles or wrong channel
[17:00] <wsch> th1, yeah i know, but i mean i did check first
[17:01] <wsch> soapy_illusions, are they stalking you?
[17:01] <wsch> :p
[17:01] <soapy_illusions> what?
[17:01] <marcusesses1> OK, using pidgin now
[17:01] <TopherSPI> I am attempting to update to 9.10 from 9.04 and I get the message: "Could Not Download Release notes. Please Check Your Internet Connection". Anybody know what I shoudl do to fix this?
[17:01] <wsch> soapy_illusions, #hardware is probably a good place for that unless its a software problem
[17:01] <michael__> dont update yet
[17:01] <mneptok> bratiz: stop that behavior, right now.
[17:01] <michael__> its not a very stable release
[17:01] <ska178> is anyone else having a problem trying to fetch the upgrade files when they try to upgrade?
[17:01] <wsch> soapy_illusions, lol it was a joke, fans are also people that are a fan of you
[17:01] <marcusesses1> So, wireless problems...
[17:01] <wsch> not only the rotating things
[17:01] <TopherSPI> Hmm. OKay then. Thanks
[17:01] <IdleOne> michael__: according to who?
[17:02] <michael__> ummm i've tested it
[17:02] <soapy_illusions> wsch, well i have a bug report out but very few answers, and lol too early in the morning to keep up
[17:02] <michael__> not compatable with a lot of hardware
[17:02]  * raid0 :)
[17:02] <michael__> mostly wireless stuff
[17:02] <wsch> soapy_illusions, ah its a software problem? with ubuntu controlling the fans or something?
[17:02] <outy> ok so what im trying to do is change the partition grub points to for windows
[17:02] <akatsuki> what command to use to get the internal and external ip addresses of my machine?
[17:02] <outy> im using grub2
[17:02] <soapy_illusions> ya and lm_sensors cannot detect my fan speed
[17:02] <gpgp> ifconfig for internal
[17:02] <IdleOne> michael__: well then, let's all downgrade cause it doesn't work for you :) see !wifi
[17:02] <soapy_illusions> so i cant control it with that
[17:02] <gpgp> traceroute will expose external
[17:03] <wsch> soapy_illusions, ah then this is definitely the good channel if you use ubuntu :p
[17:03] <wsch> cant help though sorry
[17:03] <soapy_illusions> hahaha kk
[17:03] <ska178> the upgrade files fail to load during the process, am I going to have to do a clean install of koala?
[17:03] <soapy_illusions> ill keep trying to find someone who can
[17:03] <IdleOne> michael__: keep it in the channel please
[17:04] <wsch> soapy_illusions, make sure they understand its ubuntu controlling the fans thats the problem, if you ask about it
[17:04] <kottlett> help! I upgraded a box to 9.10 which uses PXE boot - now it wont boot as long as I keep the fstab entry which mounts /home from a nfs share! It just says that it waits for the nfs-drive to be mounted. do I need to register nfs disks somewhere else now, not fstab anymore?
[17:04] <soapy_illusions> wsch, well i tried with opensuse 11.2 and had the same problem
[17:04] <wsch> soapy_illusions, in that case ##linux is also a good place'
[17:05] <marcusesses> sa
[17:05] <marcusesses> So who's having wireless problems again?
[17:05] <quickvfr> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 (i386).  On boot, I get to the splash screen, it flickers black, goes back to the splash; over and over, etc.  Any suggestions?  My AMD64 machine upgraded without issue.
[17:05] <th1> yeah the Ubuntu repos seem really slow at the moment I'm getting like 200k/second when updating
[17:05] <helix_> hi
[17:05] <helix_> anyone there? :P
[17:06] <gOLDfeesh> is there an issue with the repos today? Anytime I try to update ubuntu I get: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com http:
[17:06] <ska178> can anyone help me? i've tried upgrading ubuntu the past couple days and it keeps failing when it tries to fetch the upgrade files
[17:06] <th1> gOLDfeesh, yeah its really slow atm
[17:06] <helix_> hey i'm wondering if something is possible:
[17:06] <gOLDfeesh> th1, I'm guessing it's because everyone is updating eh
[17:06] <Ank3n> no problems here!
[17:06] <akatsuki> gpgp: i traceroute my internal ip, but not showing my external, how do u get that to work?
[17:07] <mdmkolbe> How do I get a list (as text file) of programs that I've directly asked Synaptic to install?  (i.e. I don't want packages that were only installed because they were dependancies)
[17:07] <pradeep> My network manager keeps crashing frequently on Karmic. Any fixes?
[17:07] <th1> akatsuki, it depends on your network/router setup
[17:07] <fluid> i get consistent failures when trying to update repositories on a fresh 9.10 cd install no matter what mirror i select.
[17:07] <helix_> i have a virtual drive, but my game that i run on wine doesn't recognize the virtual drive as a cd medium (the game asks for the cd). my cdrom player is slow so i get laggs in game. is it possible to fool wine into thinking the virtual drive is cdrom0 ?
[17:07] <gOLDfeesh> mdmkolbe, I beleive there's an option to export the list of installed software
[17:07] <th1> fluid, are you using wireless connection?
[17:07] <fluid> no
[17:07] <quickvfr> For the updates, try doing the upgrade using the alternate cd from the torrents.  This worked for me.
[17:08] <yuval> anyone figure out how to get otr working with empathy?
[17:08] <simplexio> helix_: also known as cdrom check and copy protection. so you have options
[17:09] <helix_> simplexio, such as ? i have software to mount s
[17:09] <th1> yuval, you need to rebuild it manually .. i stick with pidgin until they get it fixed
[17:09] <akatsuki> th1: my internal ip is <IP_ADDRESS>. i used the command traceroute <IP_ADDRESS> and got this:traceroute to <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
[17:09] <akatsuki>  1  akatsuki-laptop.local (<IP_ADDRESS>)  0.050 ms  0.012 ms  0.012 ms
[17:09] <helix_> simplexio, cd images. but the game still doesn't think the cd is inserted
[17:09] <pradeep> My empathy client does not show my contact list and who are all online
[17:09] <gOLDfeesh> Alright so I ran "dist-upgrade"  and it only wanted to download 10MB? http://pastebin.com/d6acf35be
[17:09] <th1> akatsuki, yes of course that is expected
[17:09] <th1> akatsuki, when you traceroute to yourself then it doesn't go outside your PC
[17:10] <mdmkolbe> gOLDfeesh: I don't see an option like that
[17:10] <mikechelen> gOLDfeesh, check http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20%28Recommended%29 ?
[17:10] <outy> what do i have to do to edit grub.cfg ?
[17:10] <akatsuki> th1: what is the right way then?
[17:10] <simplexio> helix_: well.. #ubuntu isnt for teaching howto get nocd crack and howto disable copy protections.. google is for it, and try gamecopyworld
[17:10] <th1> akatsuki, go to www.whatismyip.com :)
[17:10] <nukem> hey I'm trying to share my home directory through NFS but every time I try to share it I get that my home directory doesn't support NFS export
[17:10] <harjot> help
[17:10] <soapy_illusions> still looking for help with a fan speed issue one 9.10
[17:10] <harjot> desperate help
[17:10] <Mike_lifeguard> Anyone have info on notification bubbles appearing in the wrong location (ie not in the corner)?
[17:10] <akatsuki> th1: yes, that is my external ip, right?
[17:10] <harjot> needed
[17:10] <helix_> simplexio, no it's not a no cd crack. I have the cd and the game runs but my player is too slow. Sorry I am very bad at explaining!
[17:10] <fluid> here is output from 'apt-get update' - http://pastebin.ca/1649451
[17:10] <harjot> anyone wish to assist me?
[17:11] <th1> akatsuki, yes (or your proxy's in some rarer cases)
[17:11] <mikechelen> !ask | harjot
[17:11] <helix_> simplexio, basically I want to mount the cd directly on the computer for faster reading
[17:11] <IndyGunFreak> Mike_LaMar, you probably haver a notification area somewhere else on your panel...
[17:11] <docmax> how do i install ubuntu server edition on eeepc 900 ?
[17:11] <gOLDfeesh> mikechelen, that seems to be for servers should it still work no matter what?
[17:11] <harjot> mikechelen: its not exactly a problem
[17:11] <fluid> the "Ign" lines shouldnt be ... i just installed. it should at least pull the package lists once.
[17:11] <ricklerre1> Can anyone tell me how to switch from the generic kernel to the server kernel?
[17:11] <helix_> simplexio, so I have the .img, i mont it into ~/virtual-drives/1
[17:11] <harjot> mikechelen: well it is in a way
[17:11] <akatsuki> th1: okay, but how do I obtain it using the terminal?
[17:11] <Berzerker-> docmax, you should be using the desktop version, or even ubuntu netbook remix
[17:11] <simplexio> helix_: yeas, i totally understand your problem, and easiest way to get it working is get nocd crack so game thinks your cdimage is right cd
[17:11] <IndyGunFreak> docmax, why would you put server edition o n an eee?
[17:11] <th1> akatsuki, one solution is shown here: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Q_20997692.html
[17:11] <mikechelen> gOLDfeesh, it seems to be the proper way to upgrade via command line, otherwise follow desktop guide for gui
[17:12] <helix_> simplexio, the thing is how to specify where the image is.. it can't guess :p
[17:12] <mikechelen> harjot, nobody can help unless you say what the problem/notproblem is :)
[17:12] <docmax> IndyGunFreak, to habe a server?
[17:12] <docmax> have
[17:12] <jonte> Hi.I have installed ubuntu as dual boot with windows.now when i chose ubuntu in dual boot its freezes down like hacking but aren't working. Do you know why?
[17:12] <harjot> mikechelen: il type it in asec
[17:12] <nukem_> hey I'm trying to share my home directory via NFS but exportfs says my home directory does not support NFS export
[17:12] <simplexio> helix_: you can try mount -o loop image.ido /media/cdrom/
[17:13] <simplexio> helix_: winecfg has place where you tell it where is you cdrom dir
[17:13] <dbruns> yesterday I started a dist-upgrade from within screen, today I came back and now I cant reattach my screen session because it says screen is not installed . . . is there any way to recover from this?
[17:13] <IndyGunFreak> docmax, that is probably a severely underpowered machine to run a server
[17:13] <helix_> simplexio, ok h/o i will try one of these
[17:13] <module000> dbruns: did the box reboot or something?
[17:13] <fluid> i believe the Ign errors from apt-get are 404 errors on the repositories. but these are core package lists its failing on. hehe
[17:13] <simplexio> helix_: but i much doubt that it work without nocd crack
[17:13] <mikechelen> harjot, ubuntuforums.org is also good if the question is long
[17:13] <gharz> guys, i have just installed ubuntu 9.10... i'm just wondering how i can activate my broadcom 4312 wireless
[17:13] <LjL> dbruns: is the screen still running according to ps aux?
[17:13] <gharz> normally in the previous ubuntu... i'll just activate the restricted driver and voila... it runs
[17:13] <Berzerker-> gharz, System > Administration > Hardware drivers
[17:14] <gharz> please helpo
[17:14] <docmax> IndyGunFreak, for a fileserver???
[17:14] <mikechelen> IndyGunFreak, ubuntu server edition can run with very low resources depending on configuration
[17:14] <shifteleven> gharz, I too am having this issue
[17:14] <pjman> Hi - How can I configure the terminal to use the system-wide socks proxy setting? The proxy is working as FF is using it. I've ready many howtos to set this up using http proxy but I'm looking for socks/ssh
[17:14] <dbruns> module000: i don't thikn so.. it said itw as going to take 5+ hours so I detatched, left came back and now it says screen isn't installed
[17:14] <jonte> It is freezes down when log in screen come up or before that.
[17:14] <dbruns> LjL yes
[17:14] <module000> dbruns: check `uptime` to be sure
[17:14] <gharz> shifteleven: yes... i'm a bit sad about this
[17:14] <iholst> How do I set gpicview as the default image viewer?
[17:14] <Berzerker-> gharz, for some reason, it doesn't appear automatically, you'll need to open the actual app
[17:14] <IndyGunFreak> mikechelen, i wasn't referring to the fact that it couldn't run the server software.
[17:14] <Younder> what is this ?  Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[17:14] <module000> dbruns: and do you see your session still going with `ps faux` if indeed it has not erbooted
[17:14] <dbruns> module000: no it didn't restart
[17:14] <grawity> pjman: $HTTP_PROXY is honoured by many programs. However, for SOCKS proxies, there is only one way - tsocks or similar.
[17:14] <gharz> berzerker: what do u mean open the actual app?
[17:14] <th1> akatsuki, the simplest seems to be this one: wget http://dynupdate.no-ip.com/ip.php
[17:14] <Berzerker-> gharz, System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[17:14] <Younder> I get it running emacs 23.1
[17:14] <Berzerker-> gharz, use the B43 driver
[17:15] <shifteleven> Berzerker-: I do that but nothing's listed
[17:15] <mikechelen> IndyGunFreak, oh ok, well even older systems like p3 will happily run ubuntu server
[17:15] <grawity> pjman: So you'd run "tsocks" and you'd get a new shell, which is entirely socksified.
[17:15] <dbruns> module000: yes it is still going
[17:15] <th1> akatsuki, IP=`wget -q -O - http://dynupdate.no-ip.com/ip.php`
[17:15] <gharz> Berzerker: i already did it... it asks me to activate... when i click activate nothing happens
[17:15] <module000> dbruns: then apt-get install screen and screen -rD to it
[17:15] <LjL> dbruns: maybe you could download the screen package manually, extract it and start the binary
[17:15] <IndyGunFreak> mikechelen, i'm aware of that.. but that wasn't my point at all.
[17:15] <iholst> anyone?
[17:15] <Berzerker-> gharz, you need to be connected to the internet
[17:15] <dbruns> i can't apt-get install anything
[17:15] <Berzerker-> gharz, connect it wired.
[17:15] <Mereep> did close browser and opened new one but it still lags horrible
[17:15] <yancho>  anyone can help me get flash 10 work on ubuntu 9.04's firefox 3.5 please? I tried: http://queleimporta.com/en/finally-adobe-releases-native-64-bit-flash-10-for-linux/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#flashtrouble to no avail .. any help is super appreciated :)
[17:15] <[manas]> th1 im f.. now no gnome is loading after that line
[17:15] <akatsuki> th1: yep, looking at it now :) thanks mate. :)
[17:15] <dbruns> "Unable to lock the administration directory, blah blah blah"
[17:15] <mikechelen> IndyGunFreak, oh ok, what was the issue then?
[17:15] <th1> akatsuki, np :)
[17:16] <grawity> th1: For extra geek points, do: dig +short myip.opendns.com @resolver1.opendns.com
[17:16] <outy> can someone please help me
[17:16] <gharz> berzerker: i am already connected to wired... i'm using it right now... but it doesn't download the files... should ubuntu be downloading the files for the wireless?
[17:16] <dbruns> LjL i tried downloading the source and compiling it but it complains about a dependancy
[17:16] <outy> i need to change the partition grub2 points to for my windows partition
[17:16] <IndyGunFreak> dbruns, clos synaptic, and anything else running root, and just go to adobe.com and download the .deb fie
[17:16] <HBX> whats the latest kernel for karmic
[17:16] <Berzerker-> gharz, when you click activate, it should say downloading and installing drivers.
[17:16] <LjL> dbruns: forget about the source, just download the binary
[17:16] <module000> dbruns: you might have to kill it and `dpkg --configure a` to get it to pick up where it left off
[17:16] <Berzerker-> shifteleven, lspci shows a broadcom 4312?
[17:16] <olga__> hi. My computer has crashed so I am using a live cd in order to copy important files before I do a clean installation. I am trying to copy my thunderbird profile but i can not access .mozilla-thunderbird.
[17:16] <hanasaki> how can I run another GDM from the command line on a new VT?
[17:16] <shifteleven> Berzerker-: it's not showing anything.
[17:16] <IdleOne> LjL: his apt is locked
[17:16] <noppe> Yay ubuntu 9.10!
[17:16] <shifteleven> but i'm not connected to the internet
[17:16] <pjman> grawity: thank you - I will give this a try
[17:17] <Berzerker-> shifteleven, no, does lspci show it?
[17:17] <Arinmal> hey everyone
[17:17] <LjL> IdleOne: that's why i said "manually"
[17:17] <[manas]> th1 my ubuntu doent work how i can restore it back
[17:17] <dbruns> IndyGunFreak: adobe.com? for a .deb?
[17:17] <jonte> Pleas i need help,I have installed ubuntu as dual boot with windows.now when i chose ubuntu in dual boot its freezes down like hacking but aren't working. Do you know why?It is freezes down when log in screen come up or before that.
[17:17] <IdleOne> LjL: oh
[17:17] <dupondje> can somebody try printing from flash ? does it show printers ?
[17:17] <Scunizi> olga__: you can't access it or change into that directory?
[17:17] <stz184> hello. xrandr --output LVDS --set BACKLIGHT_CONTROL native doesnt work anymore in ubuntu 9.10. HELP? how to fix it?
[17:17] <LjL> dbruns: i386 or md64?
[17:17] <dbruns> md64
[17:17] <dbruns> this is funning on a virtual server
[17:17] <dbruns> running*
[17:17] <Berzerker-> dbruns, if you're on 64-bit, you'll need to download the .deb
[17:17] <LjL> dbruns: still, 32 or 64 bit?
[17:17] <Berzerker-> dbruns, otherwise you can install it via aptitude.
[17:17] <dbruns> Berzerker-:  quick pointer to where i can find it?
[17:18] <LjL> dbruns: ah sorry didn't read
[17:18] <th1> [manas] go Ctrl+Alt+F1 and log in and then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf back
[17:18] <LjL> dbruns: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/screen/screen_4.0.3-13ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[17:18] <Berzerker-> dbruns, http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[17:18] <[manas]> th1 gnome doent load
[17:18] <[manas]> th1 just command line
[17:18] <LjL> dbruns: download that using wget or something, into a directory of its own, then type "ar x *.deb" to extract it
[17:18] <th1> [manas], yeah then edit the xorg.conf back with command line and reboot
[17:18] <shifteleven> Berzerker-: it's showing the Broadcom with lspci
[17:18] <olga__> Scunizi, I am trying to enter that directory but it tells me I do not have the permissions. I also tried a 'su myusername' but it tells me it can not find that user
[17:19] <module000> dbruns: your problem is no screen, and your' previous screen has your upgrade going, correct?
[17:19] <LjL> dbruns: then type "tar xf *.tar.gz"
[17:19] <[manas]> th1 how dont know
[17:19] <outy> i need some help editing grub2
[17:19] <th1> [manas], sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:19] <dbruns> module000: correct
[17:19] <module000> dbruns: then you need to kill the screen[and upgrade process], dpkg --configure a, then retype the upgrade commadn to pick up where it left off, or report it is complete
[17:19] <outy> i know what i need to change,  but i cant figure out how to get permissions, etc, to change the file
[17:19] <LjL> dbruns: actually, type "tar xf data.tar.gz"
[17:19] <stone1343> I can't tell you all how much I love Ubuntu and Ubuntu Netbook Remix - Kudos to Canonical and everyone else who did such a great job with Karmic
[17:19] <gharz> shifteleven: when i run lspci it shows broadcom corp bcm4312
[17:19] <dupondje> can somebody try printing from flash ? does it show printers ?
[17:19] <dbruns> LjL:  yeah I should be able to go from here with the .deb
[17:19] <module000> dbruns: the screen is probably waiting for a y/n style input
[17:19] <LjL> dbruns: then type « ./usr/bin/screen -r »
[17:19] <gOLDfeesh> when trying to update I get http://pastebin.com/d34963e43
[17:19] <gharz> shifteleven: have u managed to fix your wireless?
[17:19] <maehze> hi - anyone got a PPA for grub2-gfxmenu ??? (x64)
[17:19] <Scunizi> olga__: this directory should be in your /home.. so if you're at terminal type "cd /home/<username>/.mozill<TAB> and you should be there.
[17:19] <fluid> could someone with working updates please pastbin their sources.list for me please? this is getting old. ;)
[17:20] <dbruns> I'm not completely helpless, just haven't used ubuntu for a few years.. been forced to use SLES (I hate it)
[17:20] <grawity> Scunizi: Why '/home/<username>/' when '~/' is enough?
[17:20] <DasKreech> Hello
[17:20] <DasKreech> Dose grub2 still use menu.lst?
[17:20] <hahahaman> 0.0
[17:20] <module000> dbruns: both solutions work...the one to manually install screen, or the process i'm telling you to stop the upgrade adn resume it outside of screen
[17:20] <fluid> grub.cfg
[17:20] <th1> the grub2 config scheme in ubuntu is a shamles
[17:20] <Arinmal> speaking of grub.cfg
[17:20] <Scunizi> grawity: ~ is enough.. but with new users sometimes it help for them to understand where they are actually going..
[17:21] <Younder> rythmbox in ubuntu 9.10 doesn't work
[17:21] <gharz> be right back
[17:21] <Arinmal> i messed my install up and need to reinstall grub from the live cd..any know how?
[17:21] <maehze> /etc/grub.d/
[17:21] <DasKreech> It says I shouldn't edit it directly Is tehre a tool for it?
[17:21] <Younder> rythmbox in ubuntu 9.10 doesn't work
[17:21] <Berzerker-> DasKreech, menu.lst has been moved to /etc/default/grub
[17:21] <Scunizi> !repeat | Younder
[17:21] <shankhs> hi I am trying to upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04 but the update manager is not displaying the upgrade option.What to do?Please help
[17:21] <Berzerker-> once that is modified, sudo update-grub
[17:21] <Younder> why is that
[17:21] <th1> Younder, it doesn't work better if you say it again and again
[17:21] <helix_> simplexio, the mount -o loop image.img /media/cdrom/ worked ;)
[17:22] <olga__> Scunizi, I do not know much about live cd's (actually, a live usb) but the impression I have go is that I am on another partition because my username is not under /home/
[17:22] <Younder> Scunizi, yes, I repeated
[17:22] <maehze> DasKreech: sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[17:22] <helix_> simplexio, no longer need cd (nor crack) :D thanks for the cmd :)
[17:22] <Berzerker-> shankhs, go into a terminal and sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:22] <th1> Younder, you also didn't ask a question
[17:22] <yuval> th1, much thanks . i'll probably stick until the binaries are available. seems to be what a lot are doing
[17:22] <mneptok> Berzerker-: that does not upgrade versions
[17:22] <Scunizi> Younder: and you're making statements.. Ask a question and maybe someone will answer.
[17:22] <Berzerker-> mneptok, it did for me.
[17:22] <DasKreech> maehze: That installs all of Gnome:-(
[17:22] <albasheers> After installing Karmic kola  palipsest disk utility says my hard drive is having bad sector
[17:23] <mathieu> hello can someone give me a link to a tested howto page for the ati radeon hd 3400 linux (ubuntu) driver? any help appreciated :)
[17:23] <mneptok> Berzerker-: dist-upgrade gets you new kernels for your current installed version
[17:23] <maehze> DasKreech: oh, sry. didnt know that u arent unsing gnome
[17:23] <dbruns> I'm back in!
[17:23] <dbruns> TY
[17:23] <mneptok> shankhs: sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:23] <IndyGunFreak> dbruns, sorry.. yeah,there's an ubuntu .deb file on adobe.com.. just go there and download it, and use it to install flash
[17:23] <maehze> *using
[17:23] <Berzerker-> mneptok, dist-upgrade gave me 9.10 from 9.04
[17:23] <woble> hey there: someone also notices the following bugs on upgrading to Karmic:  Brightness change doesnt work anymore, external USB mouse doesnt work anymore, sound output is distorted?
[17:23] <Scunizi> olga__: so you're on a live cd .. you are already root and the user name is ubuntu... typically
[17:23] <Berzerker-> I can guarantee that it will work
[17:23] <TheCheeze> ok, i turned off the powersaver function in the ALSA config file as was explained on the forums, but now i have NO sound
[17:23] <dbruns> IndyGunFreak:  flash?....
[17:23] <agentbob> can someone help me with a apt-get problem? trying to install libapache2-mod-php5 but getting the following error: http://pastebin.com/de8b3610 i tried to create a custom pkg of php, but i've since removed them using dpkg -r and apt-get remove and reinstalled the normal php packages.. except for the libapache2-mod-php5* ones
[17:23] <dbruns> IndyGunFreak: i don't need flash for anything
[17:23] <maehze> Anyone experience with grub2-gfxmenu and ubuntu karmic x64? =D
[17:23] <dupondje> somebody can test it for me plz ?
[17:23] <dupondje> can somebody try printing from flash ? does it show printers ?
[17:23] <IndyGunFreak> dbruns, didn't you say you were having trouble installing flash
[17:24] <IndyGunFreak> sorry, confused you w/ someone else
[17:24] <dbruns> IndyGunFreak:  no . . .
[17:24] <gOLDfeesh> when trying to update I get http://pastebin.com/d34963e43
[17:24] <TheCheeze> oop, there was some
[17:24] <TheCheeze> my mistake
[17:24] <dbruns> LjL, module000 : thanks guys I'm back in
[17:24] <olga__> Scunizi, yes that is correct. But I can not enter the .mozilla-thunderbird directory
[17:24] <IndyGunFreak> yancho, did you get flash working?
[17:24] <mneptok> Berzerker-: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/305226/
[17:24] <DasKreech> Berzerker-: maehze Ok I'll jsut edit it driectly
[17:24] <mneptok> Berzerker-: so much for your guarantee ;)
[17:24] <DasKreech> Berzerker-: Thats not menu.lst :)
[17:24] <yancho> IndyGunFreak,  no :(
[17:25] <olga__> Scunizi, actually I do not know how to get there via the terminal so I am using nautilus
[17:25] <dbruns> I got the warning about doing a dist-upgrade from ssh, so I went into a screen session to do it.. OOPs ;p
[17:25] <IndyGunFreak> yancho, just close anything running root, go to adobe.com and download the ubuntu.deb for flash.. and install it
[17:25] <gharz> guys, anyone who can help me fix my broadcom wireless 4312? hardware drivers under system doesn't fix this
[17:25] <Berzerker-> DasKreech, you shouldn't modify grub.cfg directly unless you're changing partition information, update-grub will automatically detect new partitions
[17:25] <Scunizi> olga__: ah.. hit CTRL+H to view hidden directories.. any directory beginning with a "." is hidden.
[17:25] <yancho> IndyGunFreak,  how to close anything running? and i have ubuntu 64 not 32 .. will it work? and how to force it?
[17:26] <th1> gharz, you can try bleeding edge drivers from http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download
[17:26] <Berzerker-> mneptok, sorry if it doesn't work for you, but it worked for me.
[17:26] <DasKreech> Berzerker-: It has things listed multiple times. I'm taking out some of them
[17:26] <osman_> eh
[17:26] <Berzerker-> mneptok, in multiple situations
[17:26] <shankhs> Berzerker-: I am getting Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/update-manager/update-manager_0.111.10_all.deb  404 Not Found E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[17:26] <IndyGunFreak> yancho, oh, 64bit.. i'm not sure how to do it w/ 64
[17:26] <mathieu> hello, can someone give me a link to a tested howto page for installing the ati radeon hd 3400 linux (ubuntu) driver? any help appreciated :)
[17:26] <osman_> yancho install the ubuntu-restricted-extras the flash player is coming there
[17:26] <olga__> Scunizi, yes I know it is hidden and so on but when I try to enter it I get a message telling me I do not have the permissions necessary
[17:27] <shifteleven> gharz: i still don't have it fixed
[17:27] <albasheers> gnome-disk-utility in karmic kola gives a pop up that my hdd has bad sectors
[17:27] <yancho> osman_,  should i remove the current .so i have? http://pastebin.com/d2c60a5ef
[17:27] <Scunizi> olga.. restart nautilus from terminal with "gksudo nautilus" and then you should be able to
[17:27] <mathieu> hi
[17:27] <erana> mathieu: www.xfree86.org , check the drivers
[17:27] <gharz> shifteleven: yes... me too... hardware drivers doesn't fix this
[17:27] <Berzerker-> shankhs, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing
[17:27] <gharz> at least my bcom lan worked
[17:27] <shankhs> Berzerker-: ya trying this one
[17:27] <mneptok> Berzerker-: it works for me. dist-upgrade does exactly what it is supposed to do.
[17:27] <Berzerker-> gharz, LAN is on a different chip
[17:28] <MythGuy> How do I make sure my ATI drivers are working?
[17:28] <Berzerker-> mneptok, all I know is I was on jaunty, now I'm on karmic with all my packages successfully updated, and all I did was a dist-upgrade
[17:28] <xrfang> hello there, I just upgraded to 910, I cannot find the services manager program which was in the system administration menu, help please
[17:28] <mneptok> Berzerker-: with a -u modifier for apt-get?
[17:28] <shankhs> Berzerker-: tried but still got : Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y Err http://in.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main update-manager 1:0.111.10   404 Not Found Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/update-manager/update-manager_0.111.10_all.deb  404 Not Found
[17:28] <Berzerker-> mneptok, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. that's all I wrote.
[17:29] <Laserbeak> hello I have 2 soundcards, both recognized by Alsamixer. all channels are unmuted and volume is up. the problem is, one is broken and i don't use it cause it outputs on one channel. the other works on every OS i've used it on, but gives me no sound on this installation. I've added myself tothe use audio devices group, plugged everything in and turned the speakers all the way up and still get nothing can someone pls help?
[17:29] <Berzerker-> shankhs, strange, looks like it can't find a required package
[17:29] <shankhs> Berzerker-: ya
[17:29] <iholst> I need some help
[17:29] <shankhs> Berzerker-: I am googling for some help
[17:30] <shifteleven> gharz: i think I may try this shortly. http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-to-setup-broadcom-wireless-bcm4312.html
[17:30] <mathieu> umm... i was hoping for a wici page. i got one last time and things where working but then every thing broke so here i am again
[17:30] <hanasaki> I am doing a sudo -u userName "sh -c ; pwd ; antoher command"
[17:30] <hanasaki> why does pwd show the username home directory correctly but the antoher command says it has no perms on the home directory I am running sudo from?
[17:30] <iholst> how do I install login screens
[17:30] <osman_> eh
[17:30] <n8tuser> hanasaki-> which dir are you on when running sudo?
[17:30] <shifteleven> gharz: or maybe this would be better: http://jetpackweb.com/blog/2009/10/29/ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-and-broadcom-bcm4312/
[17:30] <IndyGunFreak> shifteleven, i'd try to find ome more current instructions
[17:30] <TheCheeze> ok, now i only have one problem with karmic. ever since i upgraded i can't launch firefox with links in messengers/xchat/etc
[17:30] <Berzerker-> iholst, you can't change the login screen, GDM has been completely rewritten and doesn't have that support yet.
[17:31] <codeswing> why karmic koala
[17:31] <IndyGunFreak> shifteleven, lol, that would probably be better
[17:31] <codeswing> what are the major features ?
[17:31] <iholst> oh
[17:31] <giacomo_c> i've upgraded to 9.10, an it seems to have killed my audio.  how do i setup sound in 9.10?
[17:31] <hanasaki> n8tuser:  mine.. not the -u  persons
[17:31] <felixjet> hi
[17:31] <DopeGhoti> hanasaki: try: sudo "this; that; the other" rather than just sudo this; that; the other
[17:31] <derek_smart> how do i install ubuntu on a laptop, do i need a special cd or does the cd with the normal site work with desktops and laptops alike
[17:31] <felixjet> which is the root password? :/
[17:31] <shankhs> Berzerker-: the server was overloaded
[17:31] <felixjet> i cant sudo
[17:31] <woble> -->  xrandr --output LVDS --set BACKLIGHT_CONTROL native  <-- allows me to set backlight
[17:31] <Berzerker-> shankhs, probably.
[17:31] <woble> but it doesnt get to full potential
[17:31] <hanasaki> DopeGhoti:  please expalin more
[17:31] <iholst> If i'm using karmic?
[17:31] <Berzerker-> iholst, yes.
[17:31] <TheCheeze> derek_smart, normal install iso works great with laptops too
[17:31] <Sirex> anyone else finding karmic upgrade from jaunty has killed their networking cept for ping ?
[17:31] <giacomo_c> has anyone else been having sound problems after upgrading to 9.10?
[17:32] <felixjet> which password is the default for sudo?
[17:32] <Sirex> yes ^ giacomo_c
[17:32] <IndyGunFreak> shifteleven, i'm curius if you need internet access to run that command, or if youcan run that from the install CD
[17:32] <TheCheeze> giacomo_c, i had some crackle problems, but solved it
[17:32] <Berzerker-> felixjet, your password
[17:32] <felixjet> oh, ok
[17:32] <codeswing> why should I install karmic
[17:32] <woble> Sirex , it killed almost everything down here.. but network
[17:32] <derek_smart> according to research normal install iso works ok with laptops brb
[17:32] <codeswing> anything great over 8.10
[17:32] <felixjet> forgot to test lol
[17:32] <happyface> How do I change grub default? Koala is on a logical partition so menu.lst and grub.conf aren't in /boot/grub
[17:32] <olga__> I am on a live cd trying to enter the .mozilla-thunderbird directory but I do not have the required permissions. What do I do_
[17:32] <shifteleven> IndyGunFreak: good call.  interesting
[17:32] <TheCheeze> and for your problems, right-click on your volume icon and hit properties. change around profiles and see if that helps
[17:32] <n8tuser> hanasaki-> what is the u person?
[17:32] <iholst> How would I change an icon of a program to one of my own pistures?
[17:32] <Laserbeak> Sirex: wheni try to upgrade from 9.04 it complains about my network, even though i've used the same utility to update 9.04
[17:32] <Sirex> woble ive lost networking and sound, mostly :(
[17:32] <Berzerker-> codeswing, faster boot time, support for ext4, new grub, rewritten GDM
[17:32] <Berzerker-> codeswing, new icons also
[17:32] <woble> codeswing no if you are planning to use it as your maind esktop
[17:32] <giacomo_c> well, how do you get audio working at all?  i used to have pulseaudio with 9.04 and it worked great, but now, i can't get it to work
[17:32] <codeswing> Berzerker-: hmm
[17:32] <packet-sent> If I have 2 network drives and copy between them will packets come to my machine then over to the other machine or will the packets know the quickest route and send them directly to 2nd machine
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> shifteleven, if you've got a wired connection you can hook up to for a minute, then its no big deal.. but if you don't... it could e a problem
[17:33] <woble> Sirex , my audio is distorted
[17:33] <hanasaki> n8tuser:  I am in ~hanasaki when I run it
[17:33] <codeswing> I am currently backing up data of 8.10
[17:33] <night13> felixjet, root - root but you can use it with x-server
[17:33] <woble> but it works
[17:33] <night13> cannot
[17:33] <codeswing> Berzerker-: so that I could install 9.10 karmic
[17:33] <Laserbeak> hello I have 2 soundcards, both recognized by Alsamixer. all channels are unmuted and volume is up. the problem is, one is broken and i don't use it cause it outputs on one channel. the other works on every OS i've used it on, but gives me no sound on this installation. I've added myself tothe use audio devices group, plugged everything in and turned the speakers all the way up and still get nothing can someone pls help?
[17:33] <n8tuser> hanasaki-> and what is the exact command?
[17:33] <mathieu> hello can someone give me a link to a tested howto page for the ati radeon hd 3400 linux (ubuntu) driver? any help appreciated  sorry for repeats but no awnsers
[17:33] <TheCheeze> giacomo_c, as i said, hit your properties in your audio icon and change profiles to see if any of them work
[17:33] <Berzerker-> codeswing, I'd so a clean install and use ext4
[17:33] <codeswing> Berzerker-: should I choose ext4
[17:33] <Cheery> when installing the new ubuntu system, what would be preferable to backup?
[17:33] <shifteleven> IndyGunFreak: right now I don't have a network connection that I can use
[17:33] <DopeGhoti> is 910's wireless support any better than Jaunty's?  I'm having wifi issues with an old laptop I'm trying to ressurect
[17:33] <Cheery> (from the old ubuntu system)
[17:33] <[manas]> th1 so what shoul i do now whit my video card
[17:33] <Berzerker-> codeswing, yes.
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> shifteleven, that could be an issue..
[17:34] <giacomo_c> under the hardware tab TheCheeze?
[17:34] <shifteleven> IndyGunFreak: lol...agreed
[17:34] <codeswing> Berzerker-: GDM rewritten means ?
[17:34] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[17:34] <TheCheeze> giacomo_c, yes
[17:34] <shankhs> Berzerker-: I am still getting sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:34] <shankhs> Bewrany help!
[17:34] <MythGuy> How do I figure out the video driver that's in use?
[17:34] <Berzerker-> codeswing, faster, more efficient, new themes.
[17:34] <shankhs> Berzerker-: any help!
[17:34] <IndyGunFreak> shifteleven, i'd be willing to bet that is on the CD.... but i'm not sure
[17:34] <Berzerker-> shankhs, I guess try sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:34] <TheCheeze> MythGuy, system - administration - hardware profiels
[17:34] <Koterpillar> How do I make deskbar applet look like http://www.nongnu.org/gnomolicious/pixmaps/deskbar.png ?
[17:34] <TheCheeze> profiles*
[17:35] <iholst> how would you change the icon of a launcher?
[17:35] <hanasaki> sudo -u person2 sh -c "cd ~person2; pwd ; vnc4server :1"   <= complains that it cannot get to ~hanasaki/.vnc .....
[17:35] <shankhs> Berzerker-: tried this one too sudo do-release-upgrade Checking for a new ubuntu release No new release found
[17:35] <codeswing> guys how are you finding karmic
[17:35] <LjL> !ot
[17:35] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, is it on the desktop, or in the menu?
[17:35] <Berzerker-> shankhs, did you sudo apt-get update before that?
[17:35] <shankhs> codeswing: couldnt upgrade to karmic
[17:35] <shankhs> ya
[17:35] <iholst> in the menu
[17:35] <codeswing> what are the major changes you like more
[17:35] <fluid> and he probably got tons of Ign lines like im getting
[17:35] <codeswing> shankhs: sad
[17:35] <TheCheeze> codeswing, i like it ok, just having some firefox-related issues with it
[17:36] <techno-geek> does anyone know what happened with the sound engine? they said they "reworked" it?
[17:36] <Berzerker-> shankhs, are you using the default sources for apt?
[17:36] <gharz> !bcm4312
[17:36] <techno-geek> in karmic
[17:36] <lemahdois> hi, i have a problem reading video on firefox
[17:36] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, right click the menu, edit the menu, on the left, choose the sub menu, on the right, highlight the launcher, click Properties, then clcik tghe "Icon" and it will open up a window to brose to a new icon
[17:36] <shankhs> Berzerker-: ya
[17:36] <MythGuy> TheCheeze: Do you mean Hardware Drivers? I'm not seeing profiles.
[17:36] <DopeGhoti> hanasaki: try sudo -u person2 "~person2/vnc4server :1"
[17:36] <Berzerker-> MythGuy, yes hardware drivers.
[17:36] <TheCheeze> MythGuy, oops, yes
[17:36] <yancho> osman_,  i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras to no avail :( still no flash and firefox finds no plugins
[17:36] <teddymills> debian is great, but more cranky than ubuntu
[17:36] <derek_smart> right now i want to now how do i partition correctly the drives i dont know for example how many drives and partitions to make
[17:36] <IndyGunFreak> gharz, soeone posted this earlier, it might help  http://jetpackweb.com/blog/2009/10/29/ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-and-broadcom-bcm4312/
[17:36] <Berzerker-> gharz, try sudo apt-get install bcwml-kernel-source dkms
[17:36] <th1> [manas], I suggest you buy a different one
[17:36] <fluid> i see like 3-5 people sitting here complaining about problems that stem from the same point.
[17:36] <th1> [manas], if you can
[17:37] <TheCheeze> now if someone can help me with my none of my apps will launch firefox since i upgraded, that would be great :)
[17:37] <happyface> How do I change grub2 menu settings in koala?
[17:37] <hanasaki> DopeGhoti:  no way... vnc4server is the command its in /usr/bin
[17:37] <IndyGunFreak> Berzerker, can you run that w/o internet access, w/ only the CD as the source?
[17:37] <Koterpillar> happyface, /etc/default/grup
[17:37] <MythGuy> Thank you!
[17:37] <Berzerker-> happyface, sudo pico /etc/default/grub
[17:37] <IndyGunFreak> or do you need net access?
[17:37] <Koterpillar> sorry, grub
[17:37] <Berzerker-> happyface, then when you're done, sudo update-grub
[17:37] <iholst> but how do I change it to one of my own icons
[17:37] <happyface> Thank you Koterpillar Berzerker
[17:37] <gharz> thanks, guys. i'll try this and i'll let you know
[17:37] <derek_smart> As per the ubuntu forums i think maybe i should format three partitions in total ONE fat for windows compatibalitay and one EXT3 for linuxens am i correct?
[17:37] <Scunizi> Berzerker-: is that where the new grub lives?  they changed it from /boot/grub ??
[17:38]  * IndyGunFreak hates grub2
[17:38] <DopeGhoti> hanasaki: try sudo -u person2 "cd ~person2/; pwd; /usr/bin/vnc4server :1"   perhaps?
[17:38] <[manas]> th1 u see what a new mother bored i bot like a couple months  ago but it was working in 9.4 ubuntu why not in 9.10
[17:38] <giacomo_c> ah, finally, thanks TheCheeze
[17:38] <jayce> QUESTION - Has anybody had trouble with karmic and adding drives to fstab to auto-mount drives when you boot up?
[17:38] <codeswing> tell me more about Karmic Koala people
[17:38] <TheCheeze> giacomo_c, worked for you i take it? glad to help :)
[17:38] <th1> Scunizi, the files in /boot/grub are generated from other ones :( and it's a mess the way it is done in 9.10
[17:38] <Laserbeak> hello I have 2 soundcards, both recognized by Alsamixer. all channels are unmuted and volume is up. the problem is, one is broken and i don't use it cause it outputs on one channel. the other works on every OS i've used it on, but gives me no sound on this installation. I've added myself tothe use audio devices group, plugged everything in and turned the speakers all the way up and still get nothing can someone pls help?
[17:38] <IndyGunFreak> codeswing, well what do you want to know?..
[17:38] <yancho> IndyGunFreak,   i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras to no avail :( still no flash and firefox finds no plugins
[17:38] <Scunizi> th1: wonderful .. :(
[17:38] <derek_smart> i have two soundcards two but i asked my question first
[17:39] <Younder> sound doesn't work in ununtu 9.10
[17:39] <iholst> codeswing: It has a new IM program
[17:39] <Berzerker-> Scunizi, it's still in /boot/grub, but the settings were moved to /etc/default/grub, it still generates /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:39] <th1> [manas], maybe the proprietary driver wasn't in use in 9.04? try disabling it.
[17:39] <iholst> its called empathy
[17:39] <gharz> Berzerker: it says bcwml-kernel-source and dkms are the newest versions
[17:39] <shankhs> I am dying to try karmic anybody please help me to upgrade
[17:39] <IndyGunFreak> yancho, told you, i have no idea about 64bit
[17:39] <Younder> How do I fix it
[17:39] <Scunizi> Berzerker-: so no more menu.lst?
[17:39] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, lol, a new IM program that sucks.
[17:39] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[17:39] <Berzerker-> Pidgin is miles ahead of empathy, IIRC
[17:39] <yancho> ok sorry IndyGunFreak  thanks
[17:39] <Berzerker-> Scunizi, nope.
[17:39] <Berzerker-> IMO*
[17:39] <[manas]> th1 how??
[17:39] <codeswing> IndyGunFreak: all great things
[17:39] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: update-manager should see that the new release is available
[17:39] <giacomo_c> TheCheeze: yeah, well i had to choose the right device under the output tab, and then it worked.  (my internal card doesn't work, so i have a usb audio adapter that i had to select)
[17:39] <DopeGhoti> is 910's wireless support any better than Jaunty's?  I'm having wifi issues with an old laptop I'm trying to ressurect
[17:39] <th1> [manas], it surely sounds like the gfx card is bad. But if you only bought it a couple months ago it should have warranty still?
[17:39] <Scunizi> Berzerker-: new things to learn all the time..
[17:39] <iholst> Pidgin is better than empathy
[17:39] <Laserbeak> derek_smart: excuse me? :)
[17:39] <IndyGunFreak> codeamuk, just google it, there's info out there, this is a support channel
[17:39] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: it isnt thats the problem
[17:39] <Younder> sound doesn't work in ununtu 9.10
[17:39] <codeswing> iholst: im = pidgin right ?
[17:39] <jayce> QUESTION - Has anybody had trouble with karmic and adding drives to fstab to auto-mount drives when you boot up?
[17:39] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: try "update-manager -d"
[17:39] <Younder> How do I fix it
[17:40] <iholst> yes
[17:40] <Grozzy> Hi, my windows lags very much!
[17:40] <plb__> Hm how come there is no install option for ubuntu-restricted in software center?
[17:40] <Koterpillar> !anybody | jayce
[17:40] <gharz> be right back and do a restart
[17:40] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, i had a problem w/ 2.5.2 crashing constantly... upgraded to 2.5.3, and its working great
[17:40] <Alien_Freak> I was running the beta of 9.10 .. do I need to do anything special to convert to the "stable"
[17:40] <Alien_Freak> or just update-manager -c
[17:40] <derek_smart> i said i have two sound cards dont need to get juicy
[17:40] <xangua> hi everyone, yesterday i updated to karmic and now when i turn on my pc it first starts normal but after a while it gets slower; and then after 15 or 30 minutes it shut down with no reason
[17:40] <Laserbeak> juicy?
[17:40] <Berzerker-> Alien_Freak, sudo apt-get upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:40] <hanasaki> DopeGhoti:  the isuse is that vnc does not see that it is a new suer ID for running
[17:40] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: I have did it like 100 times still no use
[17:40] <th1> [manas], go into System->Administration->Hardware Drivers and then select the driver that's enabeld and click Remove
[17:40] <iholst> IndyGunFreak: you mean Pidgin
[17:40] <[manas]> th1 i bot on ebay so no garanty are u sure it card bad???
[17:40] <DopeGhoti> Alien_Freak: just run update-manager and you'll be running the released version
[17:40] <jayce> koterpillar - Actually, if you notice, I did ask a question. It's a broad question. Does anybody have issues with fstab. Fstab mounts drives. It either does or does not. If I'm having issues, most people would suspect that it is NOT working properly. ;) Thanks, though.
[17:40]  * Laserbeak shrugs
[17:40] <jayce> QUESTION - Has anybody had trouble with karmic and adding drives to fstab to auto-mount drives when you boot up?
[17:40] <th1> [manas], only 80% sure
[17:40] <Berzerker-> jayce, no
[17:40] <x_> ola
[17:41] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, yeah, pidgin 2.5.2, vs 2.5.3
[17:41] <IdleOne> shankhs: sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:41] <jayce> Berzerker - do you have multiple drives in your karmic system?
[17:41] <Berzerker-> jayce, yes, they auto-mount fine
[17:41] <derek_smart> problem: i have a usb dongle that i want to plug but i dont know if its supported in ubuntu
[17:41] <xangua> hi everyone, yesterday i updated to karmic and now when i turn on my pc it first starts normal but after a while it gets slower; and then after 15 or 30 minutes it shut down with no reason. Can someone help me ¿
[17:41] <iholst> hmm, I dont know much about it, I just use it
[17:41] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:41] <shankhs> IdleOne: tried that one and its giving : shankhs@shankhs-desktop:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade Checking for a new ubuntu release No new release found
[17:41] <jayce> berzerker - Do you mount by Device ID or UUID?
[17:41] <th1> derek_smart, try to plug it in and find out
[17:41] <Koterpillar> jayce, well, everything mounts fine... and still, a specific question would be better
[17:41] <[manas]> th1 can we test it some how??
[17:41] <vadash> hi to all!
[17:41] <th1> [manas], first try to disable the driver
[17:41] <Koterpillar> jayce, I plug by UUID
[17:41] <giacomo_c> derek_smart: what kinda usb dongle is it?
[17:41] <Berzerker-> jayce, device ID, but everyone is different.
[17:42] <jayce> kotepillar - did you add your UUID entries to fstab yourself?
[17:42] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, sorry, that should be 2.6.2, and 2.6.3.. i dunno what the prob was, it was randomly crashing on my laptop, but worked fine on my PC.. i upgraded via the pidgin repository, and it has worked perfect, go figure
[17:42] <derek_smart> im ashamed to specify its kind of private and embarrising
[17:42] <Koterpillar> jayce, yes
[17:42] <Younder> sound doesn't work in ununtu 9.10
[17:42] <Younder> How do I fix it
[17:42] <xangua> hi everyone, yesterday i updated to karmic and now when i turn on my pc it first starts normal but after a while it gets slower; and then after 15 or 30 minutes it shut down with no reason. Can someone help me ¿
[17:42] <derek_smart> if i explained the dongle i would get kicked
[17:42] <jayce> koterpillar - gahhhhhh.
[17:42] <derek_smart> its for adults
[17:42] <giacomo_c> hahaha
[17:42] <Berzerker-> Younder, sudo apt-get install alsa
[17:42] <Younder> This is booring
[17:42] <th1> derek_smart, then why does it need USB ?!
[17:42] <jayce> koterpillar - I have 4 drives in my system. 1 main, 3 backups. I added the 3 backups to fstab, just like I did in 7.10, 8.04, 8.10, 9.04, etc. Yet they dont mount properly in karmic.
[17:42] <derek_smart> ...because it vibrates
[17:42] <iholst> IndyGunFreak : sorry, Im new to ubuntu and dont know much about it, or the programs
[17:42] <giacomo_c> well, its freakin linux, if it doesn't work off the bat, im sure you could get it to work
[17:42] <vadash> I have upgraded to 9.10 but my touchpad dont work
[17:42] <mathieu> hello can someone help me... I have a ATI mobility radeon HD 3400 series and I cant activate desktop effects and I have done the hardware driver check. what can I do?
[17:42] <Laserbeak> derek_smart: sounds juicy
[17:42] <[manas]> th1 disabled same shi..
[17:42] <th1> derek_smart, it probably only uses power from the USB so it doesn't need a driver
[17:42] <jayce> koterpillar - when I try to access the "mounted" drives, it errors out and sa ys only root can mount these devices.
[17:42] <madsen> cant one use windows share name e.g. //server/folder instead of //ip/folder when mounting with cifs under ubuntu ??
[17:43] <TheCheeze> derek_smart, if ther eis no software that goes with it, it should work. the usb still outputs the same voltage regardless
[17:43] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: getting : Err http://in.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-updates Release
[17:43] <Koterpillar> jayce, what does mount -a say?
[17:43] <Laserbeak> yeah unless it has roleplay drivers
[17:43] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, oh ok.. no big deal.. i wasn't really looking for a solution, just couldn't figur eout why it worked on one, and not on the other.. :)...
[17:43] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: have you tried changing to a different apt repo?
[17:43] <jayce> koterpillar - gahh... I wish I could tell you. I'm at work now...
[17:43] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: the one you're using may not have updated yet for some reason
[17:43] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: trying
[17:44] <iholst> IndyGunFreak : how would I change the icon of a launcher to one of my own pictures
[17:44] <derek_smart> ive been told that instead of drivers its all about the modules rage in linux, how do i find out if this dongle uses a module or a driver or a what the hey
[17:44] <Kuprin> hey ubuntu guys, I just installed 9.10, and tried Exaile. Great player, but if it's playing when I close it, it keeps going and I have NO IDEA how to make it stop. I've tried kill/killall, there's no icon, and running its own script doesn't give me any ui.
[17:44] <jayce> koterpillar - I was just trying to find if more people had this issue. I asked in here earlier and like 4 people said they too were having issues with fstab in karmic.
[17:44] <IdleOne> shankhs: also make sure your updates are set to normal in Software Sources
[17:44] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, int he menu?
[17:44] <vadash> I have upgraded to 9.10 but my touchpad dont work
[17:44] <shankhs> IdleOne: ya checked
[17:44] <iholst> yes
[17:44] <agentbob> can someone help me with a apt-get problem? trying to install libapache2-mod-php5 but getting the following error: http://pastebin.com/de8b3610
[17:44] <xangua> hi everyone, yesterday i updated to karmic and now when i turn on my pc it first starts normal but after a while it gets slower; and then after 15 or 30 minutes it shut down with no reason. Can someone help me ¿+
[17:44] <Koterpillar> jayce, it's helpful usually. It either mounts it, or tells why it can't. And then syslog will contain the information
[17:44] <TheCheeze> derek_smart, try a ubuntu cd-rom and use it as a live disc to see if it works?
[17:44] <DopeGhoti> Kuprin: look at the output of pstree -p; that will show you everything running on your system with the PIDs to kill
[17:45] <th1> xangua, it probably needs activation have you entered your CD key ;)
[17:45] <derek_smart> ok ill report my findings
[17:45] <jayce> koterpillar - I remember it saying something in regard to only root can mount this partition....
[17:45] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, right click the menu, choose edit menu, on the left, choose the sub menu, then on the right, highlight the launcer, then click properties, then click the icon, then use the next window to browse to the new icon
[17:45] <dr3mro> plz help me fix dpi of my screen .. not of fonts i need to change the global dpi i used to change through add -dpi 85 to xserver of gdm but the new gdm properties has no x srver config and gdm.conf is far different
[17:45] <ais523> xangua: try running top in a terminal while it's on
[17:45] <xangua> th1: activation of what¿¿ i updated from jaunty
[17:45] <th1> xangua, oh wait that's another OS :)
[17:45] <Koterpillar> jayce, well, then you didn't write the line properly. Paste the line?
[17:45] <Alien_Freak> thanks Berzerker , DopeGhoti
[17:45] <ais523> xangua: look for processes which are taking much more CPU and/or memory than they should
[17:45] <th1> xangua, it was just a silly joke ;)
[17:45] <xangua> .........................
[17:45] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, none of the pictures will show up
[17:45] <[manas]> th1 maybe i should reintalled hole ubuntu, i remeber long time ago i was playing whit the drivers trying to get mythtv and something else too
[17:45] <jayce> koterpillar - what line? the UUID entry in fstab?
[17:46] <Kuprin> DopeGhoti, Yeah, I see the parent process, but killing it by number doesn't DO ANYTHING.
[17:46] <Koterpillar> xangua, System - Administrations - System Monitor
[17:46] <Koterpillar> jayce, yes
[17:46] <th1> [manas], I don't guess it will help but you can try of course
[17:46] <erana> dr3mro: try -dpi 100
[17:46] <xangua> is geting slower, in any minute may shutdown
[17:46] <xangua> with no reason :(
[17:46] <DopeGhoti> Kuprin: try kill -9 PID
[17:46] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, none of them will show up?.
[17:46] <th1> xangua, try to run "top" from inside terminal
[17:46] <dr3mro> erana, where ??
[17:46] <Kuprin> DopeGhoti, that killed it, what was that flag?
[17:46] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, what menu item are you trying to change?
[17:46] <iholst> IndyGunFreak: nope
[17:46] <jayce> koterpillar - Well, I'm using the same fstab I've used in previous ubuntu versions... and it worked then but not now... but I posted on forums about this issue, so I can dig it up and copy the line, 1 second.
[17:46] <mathieu> hello can someone help me... I have a ATI mobility radeon HD 3400 series and I cant activate desktop effects and I have done the hardware driver check. what can I do?
[17:46] <jayce> koterpillar - UUID=b2354e40-cd24-41eb-b41b-0aadc9933166 /media/localbackup ext3 defaults 0 2
[17:46] <Koterpillar> xangua, might also be overheating! Check temp in BIOS after restart
[17:46] <vadash> I have upgraded to 9.10 but my touchpad dont work can someone help me?
[17:46] <[manas]> th1 cos i dont know what else to do, can we test a card ???
[17:46] <iholst> IndyGunFreak: The powder Toy
[17:46] <DopeGhoti> Kuprin: -9 sends a SIGKILL signal rather than SIGTERM; it's a more… impolite way to kill a process
[17:47] <agentbob> can anyone help with this: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libapache2-mod-php5: Conflicts: libapache2-mod-php5filter but 5.2.6-2ubuntu4.3 is to be installed
[17:47] <iholst> I made a custom launcher
[17:47] <agentbob> ?
[17:47] <DopeGhoti> Kuprin: basically, "Die, now." rather than "please shut yourself down."
[17:47] <Kuprin> DopeGhoti, ahh, gotcha, thanks. Anyway, any idea what might be causing the exaile problem in the first place?
[17:47] <th1> [manas], you can try with driver from Nvidia's website
[17:47] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, ok, did you download n icon for it?
[17:47] <Koterpillar> jayce, if it wasn't mounted during boot, there were some errors. mount -a will try again, after that you have to look in syslog
[17:47] <ck773> mathieu: is your card in the hardware compatibility list?
[17:47] <DopeGhoti> Kuprin: sorry, not familiar with the program
[17:47] <iholst> no
[17:47] <th1> [manas] http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[17:47] <iholst> It didnt come with one
[17:47] <erana> mathieu: try vesa for example
[17:47] <jayce> koterpillar - so just run sudo mount -a /dev/sdb1 /media/localbackup on my own in term and check syslog afterwards?
[17:47] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, ok, did you download one for it?
[17:48] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, no
[17:48] <fluid> so what do i do if nothing is listed in Hardware Drivers?
[17:48] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, well that would be the first thing to do,is download an icon for it
[17:48] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, what format
[17:48] <mathieu> im shure its a driver... somthing .run
[17:48] <Kuprin> Aha. It seems when it's playing something from Unknown it doesn't like terminating properly. It's something plugin-related.
[17:48] <IndyGunFreak> or use one of the default ones.. but it may not be the exact icon for that app.
[17:48] <Koterpillar> jayce, just mount -a will attempt to mount everything in fstab (again). You can also try mount /dev... /media... , but i wasn't sure what driver did you want to mount
[17:48] <Kuprin> Seems I'm best off trying to get Audacious to work with Ubuntu >_>
[17:48] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, jpg or png usually work best.. whats the app called again?
[17:49] <Midnight> hi
[17:49] <dawit> Hello! New to irc! can somebody help, please?
[17:49] <Koterpillar> How do I make deskbar applet look like http://www.nongnu.org/gnomolicious/pixmaps/deskbar.png ?
[17:49] <jayce> koterpillar - I can mount in terminal with the mount command. sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/localbackup mounts the drive perfectly fine. Its just fstab is erroring out. And I know I have the right UUID... I copied it right from terminal when I ran blkid to find the UUID of the drives....
[17:49] <mathieu> ... theres a wiki page page it
[17:49] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, Its just one exe file
[17:49] <[manas]> th1 how i can found out my gpu version ???
[17:49] <stz184> I have problem with xandr and Ubuntu 9.10. Please help!
[17:49] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, did you install it in wine?
[17:49] <Scunizi> dawit: you just ask your question.. don't wait for someone to ask what you want to ask
[17:49] <mathieu> i mean theres a wiki page on it
[17:49] <bratiz> how can 1 make ubuntuu looksz like Mac?
[17:49] <netbook> Hi, I have just updated using Update Manager and I still have "Capabilities mismatch"
[17:49] <netbook> anyone know how to fix this?
[17:49] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, no, and I have an icon (png) but it doesnt show up
[17:49] <niuniek> Siema
[17:49] <Koterpillar> jayce, so is it mounted or not?
[17:50] <dawit> Thanks scunizi
[17:50] <erana> bratiz: gtk , mac theme e.themes.org
[17:50] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, doesnt show up?
[17:50] <IndyGunFreak> you mean when you browse ?
[17:50] <dawit> This is so exciting to talk to you guys ... I'm from Ethiopia
[17:50] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, exactly
[17:50] <Koterpillar> jayce, to be sure, run mount -a, that's what happens when you start the system
[17:50] <Koterpillar> (with root, of course)
[17:50] <th1> [manas], check here: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/190.42/README/appendix-a.html
[17:50] <Scunizi> netbook: I hate to take you to terminal but go there and do the following.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade .. this might fix all your woes but maybe not.  worth a shot.
[17:50] <xangua> agg my pc shuted down and is superheat
[17:51] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, it won't.. all your doing is selecting a directory.. navigate to the directory you want, hit OK, and when the next window comes up, any picture file will be in the window, choose it
[17:51] <dj_> bratiz: thanx it worked
[17:51] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, ohhhhhhh
[17:51] <netbook> Alright i'll try it scunizi
[17:51] <dj_> bratiz: you are genius rar man
[17:51] <bratiz> how can make ubuntu in2 lookz like mac with GUI??
[17:51] <jayce> koterpillar - all right. I'll run mount -a when I get home. Im juust saying, I can mount fine in terminal by device ID. But fstab and UUID just doesnt do it automatically without erroring out. But Ill give it a shot when I get home
[17:51] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, Thank you so much
[17:51] <xangua> agg my pc shuted down with no reason and is superheat. How can i fix it¿ (updated from jaunty to karmic)
[17:51] <dawit> I want to start a loco team and contribute to Ubuntu ... how do I go about doing that ... and specifically start an IRC channel for the team?
[17:51] <ck773> mathieu: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_86_linux.html
[17:51] <ohmy> hi
[17:51] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, np, misunderstood the problem
[17:51] <daevski> I need grub help: I just installed Karmic (Kubuntu) side by side with Jaunty (Ubuntu) -- Now Kubuntu owns the boot -- I just did grub-install /dev/sda4 from Ubuntu, but grub still uses Kubuntu's grub :(
[17:51] <ohmy> I'd like to know if some of you have installed KDevelop on Karmic please
[17:52] <jar> Anyone notice that Firefox and QT apps behave under different font hinting settings than normal gtk/gnome apps? I changed the font hinting styles in GNOME's preferences but qt and Firefox still behave under the default settings.
[17:52] <iholst> IndyGunFreak,  it worked, thank you
[17:52] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, np...
[17:52] <jj__> ubuntu italia?
[17:52] <Koterpillar> xangua, System - Administration - System Monitor - Processes. Who's taking up most CPU?
[17:52] <Younder> my sound still doesn't work (ubuntu 9.10 update)
[17:52] <ohmy> I'm using Karmic, i've expected that KDevelop will have the same projects templates as the previous versions
[17:52] <Scunizi> daevski: then grub is on a different drive.
[17:52] <LjL> !it | jj__
[17:52] <bratiz> dj_: hey cool bro
[17:52] <xangua> Koterpillar: "gnome do"
[17:52] <Koterpillar> xangua, it might also be overheating by itself. Check the hardware, if unsure, turn it off to avoid damage
[17:52] <ripps> daevski: first, try `sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub`
[17:52] <xangua> it's using like 25 mb
[17:52] <daevski> Scunizi both installs are on sda, just seperate partitions.
[17:53] <Younder> I reinstalled the asla driver already, no joy
[17:53] <ohmy> KDevelop Only allows Qt based project or simple 'Hello world' applications, Where's gone Autotool project templates and the rest please .?
[17:53] <xangua> Koterpillar: this wasn't a problem in jaunty
[17:53] <Koterpillar> xangua, kill it and uninstall
[17:53] <[manas]> th1 u know what let me try to reintall
[17:53] <Koterpillar> then troubleshoot :)
[17:53] <daevski> ripps: one sec to check, that sounds good. brb
[17:53] <th1> [manas], ok good luck
[17:53] <Koterpillar> at least you will have a working computer...
[17:53] <erana> ohmy: try the share dirts
[17:54] <Koterpillar> AFAIK Gnome DO is still unstable
[17:54] <Younder> my sound still doesn't work (ubuntu 9.10 update)
[17:54] <Younder> I reinstalled the asla driver already, no joy
[17:54] <MK13> what is the command for making a file executable?
[17:54] <dawit> *hmm ... * I was hoping to find some help ... scunizi or anybody, please?
[17:54] <erana> MK134 : chmod +x filename
[17:54] <MK13> erana, thanks
[17:54] <bratiz> iz nobody know.. how i can make ubuntu look like a mac in the ui?
[17:54] <erana> Younder: try OSS
[17:54] <zleap> MK13, i would use man chmod to find out more about the chmod command too
[17:55] <daevski> ripps: Well os-prober wasn't found, but I updated grub. I fear my kubuntu still owns it though.
[17:55] <arun_palal> i am using ubuntu 9.04 . i want a scanner driver for my epson cx2800 .may somebody help me
[17:55] <preetam> hi anybody has upgraded from ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10..any issue in the upgradation
[17:55] <daevski> ripps: Grub-install should have fixed it, I thought...
[17:55] <MK13> i am hating this new way to add a new OS to grub menu....
[17:55] <th1> bratiz, check this one: http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23
[17:55] <Sirex> im finding firefox in karmic is having a real trouble with dns resolution, even though resolv.conf looks fine.
[17:56] <ripps> daevski: install os-prober, it scans all your harddisks in device.map for viable boots and adds them to you grub2 config
[17:56] <dawit> some help on how to start an IRC channel, please?
[17:56] <blubbar> bratiz: http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23
[17:56] <ironfoot495> Hello can someone help find a way to install desktop on my 9.10 server
[17:56] <erana> Younder: Open Source Sound , oss.org
[17:56] <grawity> dawit: /join #channel-name
[17:56] <preecher> a few hours ago someone said that if you upgraded from 9.04 instead of doing a fresh install it would be more "buggy"- i am not having any problems that i know of but i went ahead and dloaded the iso--since i did the upgrade would i be better off to do a install from the cd or should i be ok?
[17:56] <th1> blubbar, lol alraedy posted that to him ;)
[17:56] <derek_smart> ok the dongle works as expected
[17:56] <gharz> shifteleven & berzerker: i finally made it work... i just followed this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288865
[17:56] <derek_smart> what the modules
[17:56] <gharz> now it's working!!!!
[17:56] <gharz> thanks
[17:57] <DopeGhoti> preecher: if it ain't broke, don't break it :)  I'd say ou're probably fine :)
[17:57] <aresnick> Hi!  I was wondering where I might find out about how to shrink an LVM partition without losing data?  Gparted doesn't seem to support lvm.
[17:57] <zleap> anyone giving away ubuntu cd's to trick or treaters tomorrow :)
[17:57] <erana> ironfoot495: apt-get install x-window-system
[17:57] <mcphail> preecher: only reinstall if you are running into major problems
[17:57] <dawit> grawity, explain more, please
[17:57] <DopeGhoti> zleap: that's a brilliant idea!
[17:57] <daevski> ripps: I have a hunch I don't know how to confirm... Kubuntu is using grub.cfg as a menu.lst, while Ubuntu is using menu.lst -- are they different versions of grub?
[17:57] <bman> smoak moar
[17:57] <zleap> one of the reasons I am making copies now
[17:57] <dawit> I need to START (CREATE) an IRC
[17:57] <ripps> daevski: depends on which os was installed last. The last one is the one that is written to you MBR
[17:58] <zleap> however I have rugby training sunday so can give some away then
[17:58] <arun_palal> i am using ubuntu 9.04 . i want a scanner driver for my epson styluscx2800 .may somebody help me
[17:58] <grawity> dawit: I KNOW, RIGHT? NO NEED TO SHOUT.
[17:58] <preecher> DopeGhoti, and mcphail  thx and ok
[17:58] <preecher> \
[17:58] <SteveVinci> helllloooo every one
[17:58] <blubbar> th1: oh so you also know the magic of google :)
[17:58] <th1> blubbar, yep :)
[17:58] <grawity> dawit: Further IRC-related questions go to #freenode.
[17:58] <preecher> DopeGhoti, and mcphail  thx and ok
[17:58] <osubuck> just installed 9.10, very nice and extremely smooth
[17:58] <ripps> daevski: in this case, you should be using the one supplied by karmic, because it has the highest compatiblity, especially when used with os-prober
[17:58] <daevski> ripps: Correct, Kubuntu was last, as a trial. I want my Ubuntu back as MBR owner :(
[17:58] <dawit> I didn't mean to, sorry
[17:58] <Younder> that is the most annoying web site in history
[17:59] <rosebj> anyone know how to get 9.10 not resume from suspend whena laptop lid is lifted?
[17:59] <erana> arun_palal: google: epson site:hp.com
[17:59] <boscop> what does this mean? "The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue."
[17:59] <DopeGhoti> rosebj: look in power management, I'd guess
[17:59] <dawit> grawity: so I just type "#freenode"?
[17:59] <arun_palal> thanks . let me try
[17:59] <ironfoot495> erana: Thanks I really appreciate that.
[17:59] <grawity> dawit: ...no.
[17:59] <IdleOne> dawit: /join #freenode
[17:59] <ripps> daevski: you can add custom entries to your grub by modifyin files in you Karmic's /etc/grub.d and regenerating your grub.cfg with update-grub
[17:59] <rosebj> DopeGhoti, It doesnt have any settings for lifting the lid
[17:59] <Counterspell> I'm having trouble saving the settings in the Qt Configuration utility. I am increasing the font-size and going to File > Save. I close then reopen the Qt Configuration utility and the settings were in fact not saved. Also set settings don't appear to effect any Qt applications.
[18:00] <derek_smart> how do i render the ubuntu modules?
[18:00] <dawit> grawity & IdelOne: Thanks guys, but, obviously, I am new to this thing :)
[18:00] <derek_smart> someone told me grep was a good idea but i dont know what thats all about
[18:01] <grawity> dawit: To join a channel, type /join #channel-name
[18:01] <derek_smart> GREP
[18:01] <bman> grep++
[18:01] <derek_smart> GREPS
[18:01] <daevski> ripps: But if I do that, I can't delete the Karmic partition, correct?
[18:01] <dawit> grawity & IdleOne: will I leave this "room" and not talk to you guys anymore? (I sort of like the talk here)
[18:01] <grawity> dawit: If the channel did not exist, it will be created automatically.
[18:01] <erana> derek_smart: man grep or grep keyword filenames
[18:01] <grawity> dawit: So now join #freenode.
[18:01] <jan__> Hey. After connecting a second monitor to my freshly installed 9.10 box and configuring it using gnome-display-properties, the gnome-panel stays on the first one and isn't displayed on the second one. How can I change this to be the other way around?
[18:01] <ripps> daevski: no, you couldn't
[18:01] <_akahige_> nautilus has decided that it doesn't want to display all of the contents of a certain directory. it opens it, displays the subdirectories and a few text files (possibly all of them), but none of the rest of the files. the progress throbber just sits there and spins. any way to fix that without restarting the entire desktop?
[18:01] <yancho>  anyone can help me get flash 10 work on ubuntu 9.04's firefox 3.5 please? I tried: http://queleimporta.com/en/finally-adobe-releases-native-64-bit-flash-10-for-linux/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#flashtrouble to no avail .. any help is super appreciated :)
[18:01] <grawity> dawit: No, you can be in as many channels as you want.
[18:01] <erana> derek_smart : also try egrep
[18:01] <acr0nym> hello everyone, quick question, I want to build a minimal ubuntu version without any apps.. what would be the best way to approach this?
[18:01] <IdleOne> dawit: no it should open another window
[18:01] <grawity> dawit: (Technically, there _is_ a limit of channels per network, but it doesn't matter yet.)
[18:02] <daevski> ripps: :( the goal is to give /sda4 back the MBR, so I can delete the Karic... Any ideas?
[18:02] <erana> acr0nym: try the debian floppys
[18:02] <trism> acr0nym: get the alternate cd and do a command line install, then install any extras you want
[18:02] <DopeGhoti> acr0nym: start with Ubuntu server edition, NBR, or xubuntu, I'd say
[18:02] <IdleOne> !minimal | acr0nym
[18:02] <acr0nym> thanks trism :)
[18:02] <dawit> grawity & IdleOne: I feel at home already! So, IRC works, really! Cool stuff man!
[18:02] <ripps> daevski: you can boot back into your older ubuntu os, you can reinstall it's grub into your mbr, so it ignore's karmic's
[18:02] <legend2440> arun_palal: install libsane-extras from synaptic. i think that works with that scanner according to this  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man5/sane-epkowa.5.html
[18:02] <nefast> Hello everyone.
[18:02] <xanwito> hello there thsi is XANGUA , now i am in windows and ubuntu just keep shuting down and overheating
[18:03] <boscop> what does this mean? "The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue."
[18:03] <Untouchab1e> hi.. Having some problems here.. Running Ubuntu 9.10 x86.. Trying to kill x-server, but sudo gdm stop just gives me a "Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager error :/
[18:03] <xanwito> what can I do¡¡¡
[18:03] <chieh> hello, for ubuntu 9.1 server, can somebody explain to me what EC2-based private cloud capability means?
[18:03] <derek_smart> chieh: someone told me to grep
[18:03] <xanwito> hello there thsi is XANGUA , now i am in windows and ubuntu just keep shuting down and overheating ; what can I do¡¡¡
[18:03] <Royall> Compiz isn't working
[18:03] <derek_smart> chieh: /etc
[18:03] <daevski> ripps: I thought I did that from older OS with 'grub-install /dev/sda4' -- but after reboot I still had Karmic menu.
[18:03] <Scunizi> Untouchab1e: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[18:03] <dawit> grawity & IdleOne: Thanks a million guys and (grawity: thanks for accepting my apologies!)
[18:03] <chieh> what?
[18:03] <JoeSomebody> hi, i am downloading 9.10, but i cant find 9.10 docs, do they exist?
[18:03] <Untouchab1e> Scunizi, tried that, but it just tells me to use gdm stop instead >.<
[18:03] <ColtonLee> i need help with wireless on karmic
[18:03] <IdleOne> dawit: no problem, anytime. Welcome to Ubuntu!
[18:04] <soreau> Royall: What happens if you set sys>prefs>Appearance>Visual Effects tab to Extra?
[18:04] <chieh> i'm just curious what the EC2 feature means....
[18:04] <Scunizi> Untouchab1e: what happens when you do that?
[18:04] <Untouchab1e> then I get the error mentioned above
[18:04] <xanwito> hello there , now i am in windows and ubuntu just keep shuting down and overheating ; what can I do??
[18:04] <Scunizi> soreau: your eyes will spin in your head :)
[18:04] <Untouchab1e> and if I cant kill the  x-server, im screwed.. cuz then I cant install the nvidia drivers
[18:05] <derek_smart> chieh: use grep
[18:05] <daevski> ripps: Is grub-install from the old OS correct. or should I try update-grub or... ? they seem to be the same to me. No way to reclaim the MBR for older OS?
[18:05] <derek_smart> chieh: someone told me grep is good in ubuntu
[18:05] <xanwito> hello there , now i am in windows and ubuntu just keep shuting down and overheating ; what can I do??
[18:05] <proteusguy> Got Karmic Koala. Everything's great except audio mostly doesn't work. Specifically Xine seems useless and it's the only engine installed that PulseAudio can get to. Are there other backend engine options?
[18:05] <Scunizi> Untouchab1e: right... have you done all the updates already?
[18:05] <dr3mro> plz help me to set the xrandr --fbmm 339x212 i type it in terminal nothing happms
[18:05] <Royall> soreau: visual effects can not be enabled or something
[18:05] <MK13> does anyone here know how to convert an old menu.lst entry to the new format for grub2?
[18:05] <daevski> ripps: Sorry :-p I'm still a litttle confused.
[18:05] <Untouchab1e> Scunizi, Indeed I have.. all three of them
[18:05] <chieh> is that suppose to be a joke?
[18:05] <MK13> Untouchab1e, what are you trying to do?
[18:05] <soreau> Royall: Can you pastebin the output of 'compiz &' from your terminal to pastebin.com?
[18:05] <Untouchab1e> MK13, I am trying to kill X-server
[18:05] <ripps> daevski: actually I don't think grub-instal writes to mbr, check out this link http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-restore-grub-in-ubuntu/2008/04/11
[18:05] <r3cord> I messed up owners and permissions (with chown) in /usr and sudo is not working anymore (it's not setuid anymore). Should i make a complete re-install or can recover owners and permissions somehow?
[18:05] <Scunizi> Untouchab1e: only 3 huh.. I haven't upgraded so I'm not aware of how many there are..
[18:06] <MK13> Untouchab1e, what have you tried so far?
[18:06] <nefast> Just a quick question, when upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 using the alternate iso, no personal files get deleted? [just to be certain]
[18:06] <Untouchab1e> but sudo gdm stop just gives me a error: "Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager".. "Could not acquire name; bailing out"
[18:06] <ColtonLee> jow do i get my belkin n wireless adapter to work when windows when ndisgtk shows that the hardware is not present and i have tried rebooting
[18:06] <z987k> I just upgraded to 9.10, and it broke my network.  Everything was working perfect before, but now I cannot see other computers on the network(linux) and they cannot see me
[18:06] <dawit> IdleOne: thanks so much!!!  I changed the server and used normal updates and when i did this:  shankhs@shankhs-desktop:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade  Checking for a new ubuntu release No new release found
[18:06] <xanwito> hello there , now i am in windows and ubuntu just keep shuting down and overheating ; what can I do??
[18:06] <Untouchab1e> Scunizi, considering 9.10 was just released, its not that surprising.. but still.. I should be able to kill the x-server
[18:06] <ergy> is it safe to use gnome shell on ubuntu karmic?
[18:06] <Scunizi> Untouchab1e: use nicks or your replies will get lost in the noise..
[18:06] <derek_smart> z987k: you have to use grep i think im trying to fix things in ubuntu too
[18:06] <Royall> soreau: http://pastebin.com/d4da3a382
[18:06] <Royall> also
[18:07] <Royall> os[Linux 2.6.28-11-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "karmic" 9.10] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T5750  @ 2.00GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.00GHz] mem[Physical: 2.9GB, 90.1% free] disk[Total: 549.4GB, 16.3% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[18:07] <FloodBot3> Royall: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:07] <dawit> grawity & IdleOne: I successfully joined the freenode ... but it's sort of quiet in there ... :)
[18:07] <Scunizi> Untouchab1e: yes you should.. perhaps boot into the recovery mode and drop to the shell from there..
[18:07] <Lapinux> can one upgrade from 9.10 beta, and if so is it a good idea?
[18:07] <MK13> Untouchab1e, what error are you getting when trying to kill X?
[18:07] <ripps> daevski: you'll probably have to do that from a jaunty livecd
[18:07] <z987k> derek_smart, what about grep?
[18:07] <Untouchab1e> MK13 I just told you..
[18:07] <JoeSomebody> hi, anyone, I cant find 9.10 docs, do they exist? I would think https://help.ubuntu.com/
[18:07] <Iuly> hi everybody ! I am trying to create an USB start up disc, but is not working, says " cannot determinate number of partition" I use ubuntu 9.04 and I try to create a start up usb with UNR 9.10
[18:07] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: you sure you're not already running Karmic? ;)
[18:07] <Untouchab1e> "Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager".. "Could not acquire name; bailing out"
[18:07] <Scunizi> Lapinux: just do your updates and you'll be there automatically
[18:07] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: ya
[18:07] <ais523> chieh: see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_EC2>; the Ubuntu thing is similar
[18:07] <IdleOne> dawit: if you like there is also #ubuntu-offtopic ( random chat ) we try to keep this channel for support related topics only
[18:07] <derek_smart> z987k: use grep in the network files and search
[18:07] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: very much
[18:07] <daevski> ripps: Hmm. Okay. Thank you a lot for all your help :)
[18:07] <ais523> Lapinux: yes, the beta will upgrade to the release version if you just update normally, and it is a good idea
[18:07] <grawity> dawit: #freenode is a help channel - and it's only active when people ask for help
[18:08] <z987k> derek_smart, I don't even know what I'm searching for though
[18:08] <chieh> ok thank you very much