[06:37] <bunewb> if i want to install grub to my sata (system has one sata, one ide drive, bios is set to boot from sata) during the installer, which label do i need to enter? installer automatically selects hd0 (ide drive) however target partition is sda1 and would like to install grub to the mbr of the sata drive
[06:37] <IntuitiveNipple> madman2: uname -r, or uname -a
[06:38] <madman2> 2.6.17-10 generic
[06:38] <laforge> httped, heh sorry then way beyond what I know ):
[06:38] <httped> laforge, I have already added the command.
[06:38] <bunewb> i tried sda, and sda0 within the installer, both failed with fatal error, now unplugged the ide drive and hoping it will auto detect
[06:38] <Phil2> madman2, it doesn't say "386" or "686" or something like that?
[06:38] <madman2> no
[06:38] <eternal_p> good afternoon all...i'm just wondering, does anyone know how to disable the splash screen from Beryl on startup?
[06:38] <madman2> i686
[06:38] <madman2> sorry wrong uname option
[06:39] <madman2> Linux madman 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:39] <Phil2> madman2, the i686 is the proper kernel, so you're good there
[06:39] <yukio> Sorry, how can i open .rar files?
[06:39] <Phil2> madman2, let me think for a minute...
[06:39] <madman2> thanks
[06:39] <Soir> yukio: unrar is good
[06:40] <castoff> i have an install hanging at 87% where does the install dump its logs so i can see what is failing?
[06:40] <yukio> Can i use the default archiver to open .rar files?
[06:40] <mnoir> yukio: 1.  probably not.  2. tias
[06:40] <Phil2> madman2, i wonder if it's reporting the fsb instead of the fsbXmultiplier?
[06:40] <RingDonut> How do I burn an ISO image into a bootable disc?
[06:41] <mnoir> !iso
[06:41] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[06:41] <madman2> hmm
[06:41] <Keeguon> !burn
[06:41] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[06:41] <madman2> should be 533mhz
[06:41] <mnoir> !burn | RingDonut
[06:41] <madman2> as a fsb.
[06:41] <ubotu> RingDonut: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[06:41] <Phil2> madman2, fsb is 533?
[06:41] <madman2> yes
[06:41] <pete_> ayup
[06:42] <castoff> anyone know where the installer places its logs?
[06:42] <pete_> how do I install kernel headers?
[06:42] <Phil2> madman2, you got me stumped on this one.  maybe someone else can help.
[06:42] <madman2> thanks :)
[06:42] <pete_> and build essentials?
[06:42] <mnoir> pete_: use apt-get, synaptic
[06:42] <Vigo> Greetings
[06:42] <pete_> thankyou
[06:42] <mnoir> pete_: same answer
[06:43] <mnoir> for build-essentials
[06:43] <pete_> thankyou mnoir
[06:43] <mnoir> np :)
[06:43] <RingDonut> how do I delete my custom away messages that I made on GAIM
[06:43] <RingDonut> ???
[06:43] <madman2> how you guys got rid of your windows addiction? seriously. :s
[06:43] <Soir> castoff: if you can get to them with a half-installed system, it should be /var/log
[06:43] <mnoir> madman2: replaced with linux addiction
[06:43] <aloyarc> yes, yes, yes, artrage2 works under wine in *buntu !
[06:43] <madman2> :)
[06:43] <madman2> always got that
[06:43] <Soir> madman2: windows is only an addiction if you think there's no other way :)
[06:44] <castoff> i was hoping i could tail it during another install attempt...i'll look there
[06:44] <madman2> i am working on that :)
[06:44] <pete_> mnoir; "E: Invalid operation synaptic
[06:44] <pete_> "
[06:44] <mnoir> one dat at a time?
[06:44] <mnoir> pete_: apt-get and synaptic are two different ways of installing anything
[06:44] <mnoir> !software
[06:44] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[06:45] <pete_> oh I see
[06:45] <Vigo> If my system no longers offers me a boot screen to , win2k ,ubuntu , reinstall will repair? cause I spent like a week getting ATI to work....
[06:45] <mnoir> :)
[06:45] <pete_> whats the atp-get comaand for headers and b.e?
[06:45] <mnoir> Vigo: does anything boot at all?
[06:45] <madman2> i just need to take it one step @ a  time
[06:46] <Ace2016> Hi all
[06:46] <hjmills> Vigo: no - you just need to reinstall grub - the boot loader
[06:46] <hjmills> !grub > Vigo
[06:46] <Vigo> mnoir: Nothing, the drive is still listed
[06:46] <pete_> !headers
[06:46] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[06:46] <hjmills> !grub | Vigo
[06:46] <ubotu> Vigo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:46] <Vigo> Thank you
[06:46] <Ace2016> Is there a replacement for make which can do make --resume, because its annoying when compiles stop or beryl crashes and if its an app like firefox being compiled
[06:46] <linda777> I'm working through the "Ubuntu Unleased" book with 6.06. There seem to be several important commands missing from my shell. I can't use "which" or "Path" or "user" commands, though the book says they are integral to what I'm going to e doing.
[06:47] <linda777> Is there something I don't have installed correctly?
[06:47] <mnoir> Ace2016: make should always resume at an appropriate point
[06:47] <hjmills> linda777: what is Path meant to do?
[06:47] <linda777> Set the default location of executables, etc.
[06:47] <pete_> !build essentials
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build essentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <Ace2016> mnoir: oh, so mine must restarted since the last time it finished it finished with an error
[06:48] <pete_> !buildessentials
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <hjmills> linda777: thats all in the PATH variable which is set on system startup from /etc/environment - try reading that file using "less /etc/environment"
[06:48] <IdleOne> !build-essential | linda777
[06:48] <ubotu> linda777: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:48] <hjmills> linda777: press q to quit less
[06:48] <Vigo> Ubuntu has to be the best Linux Distro I have ever used yet.
[06:49] <mnoir> Ace2016: make looks at the work that is done and is supposed to determine what is useable.  if you alter something to fix an error it may back up to a point further back than you expect
[06:49] <linda777> What about "Which" and some of these other commands I don't have?
[06:49] <linda777> I also don't have "tree"
[06:49] <newbuntu> hello
[06:49] <mnoir> !info tree
[06:49] <ubotu> tree: displays directory tree, in color. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.0-2 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 92 kB
[06:49] <hjmills> linda777: i dont have tree or user either
[06:49] <IdleOne> linda777: sudo apt-get install tree
[06:49] <aoupi> linda777: it's case sensitive, make sure you enter 'which' not 'Which'
[06:49] <linda777> My question is, why are these things no installed with the shell by default?
[06:49] <mnoir> linda777: same reason the sky is blue
[06:50] <hjmills> check you are using the version of ubuntu the book was written for?
[06:50] <Vigo> I use that other pad thing for playing with the Terminal.
[06:50] <Ace2016> mnoir: oh i get it, i just wanted to avoid the list of entering and leaving directories it prints out while its doing that
[06:50] <linda777> mnoir: I am certain it's not that.
[06:50] <mnoir> somebody liked it that way
[06:50] <hjmills> mnoir: because light at that end of the wavelength refracts more than light at the other end?
[06:50] <linda777> But the reference I have indicates that these are installed by default.
[06:50] <hawk> mnoir: Refraction?
[06:50] <linda777> I am typing "which" all lower case.
[06:50] <mnoir> Ace2016: if that annoys you you can pipe it to a file
[06:50] <tiede> Not to important. But has it's purposes... How do you make a panel Auto-hide horizontally, when it's orientation is either Down or Up? The manual hide buttons do what I want, but autohide doesn't do nothing. Except if it is at the bottom of the screen, it hides it vertically.... They are setup like sliders, so vertically hiding them won't work. I need them to be hidden horiontally. Any idea how I can make that happen?
[06:50] <hjmills> linda777: btw - tree is cool!
[06:50] <IdleOne> linda777: because if everything was installed by default you would have a 48 cd install fior ubuntu :)
[06:50] <linda777> I heart tree.
[06:50] <newbuntu> I was wondering if someone could please help me with a problem ... I was trying to get fglrx working for tv-out on an ati card on my PC, now when I boot it takes KDE 5 to 8 minutes to show my desktop after logging in and I have 2 xsessions running in task manager
[06:51] <linda777> IdleOne: I know, but these are basic shell things...
[06:51] <mnoir> Ace2016: or discard, which i do not recommend
[06:51] <fotoflo2> hey
[06:51] <fotoflo2> is VNC the thing to use if i want to do remote desktop?
[06:51] <aoupi> what does tree do, is it like du but without all the filesizes?
[06:51] <hjmills> linda777: tree isnt - its just a gui program that is almost the same as ls -lR i think
[06:51] <mnoir> linda777: tree aint basic to me - ive never used it
[06:51] <Vigo> fotoflo2 Yes
[06:51] <newbuntu> What I believe is that ive screwed up my xorg.conf , and its backup because ive tried reverting back to the orignal
[06:52] <hjmills> mnoir: its $(ls -R) with indentation
[06:52] <linda777> It's just frustrating, b/c "Unleasing Ubuntu" came with a distro disk, and half the stuff in the first few chapters are not included in the distro they use.
[06:52] <IdleOne> linda777: install it. sudo apt-get install tree
[06:52] <Soir> linda777: basic because the book says so, or because a channel of dedicated users think so? :)
[06:52] <Soir> linda777: weirdness on the part of the book then
[06:52] <mnoir> hjmills: there you go - not only useless to me but available without 'tree' :)
[06:52] <linda777> Good point, Soir. I thought this was a pretty standard text...
[06:52] <hjmills> mnoir: im sure a v simple bash script could give you that indentation if you REALLY needed it
[06:53] <linda777> It's like somebody took a fedora book and just did a search and replace...
[06:53] <mnoir> linda777: welcome to unix :)  land of a thousand standards
[06:53] <pete_> howto shutdown xserver?
[06:53] <newbuntu> Now what I want to do is transfer the PC's files to my laptop and install edgy (the pc has dapper), what is the easiest way to transfer files from a PC (ubuntu) to a laptop (ubuntu) ?
[06:53] <Mike__> Does anyone else know how to fix this error  Totem could not play 'mmsh://plankton.mbayaq.org/Kelp?MSWMExt=.asf'.
[06:53] <hjmills> linda777: how much does it use tree?
[06:53] <aoupi> pete_: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:53] <linda777> Just for a few pages, I can live without it.
[06:53] <pete_> thanks
[06:53] <Mike__>   No URI handler implemented for "mmsh".
[06:53] <linda777> Besides, the cover is really pretty, and it's heavy enough to kill a rat.
[06:53] <hjmills> linda777: also - if you haven't found it yet - tab completion is your friend
[06:53] <hjmills> !tabcompletion
[06:53] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:53] <newbuntu> is FTP an option through a LAN cord?
[06:53] <linda777> Yeah, but tab completion only works if I *have* what I'm trying to complete.
[06:53] <linda777> A bunch of this junk isn't there.
[06:54] <tiede> So no one knows of some hidden Gconf key or script that can force a panel to autohide horizontally?
[06:54] <hjmills> linda777: but it can also find u programs that may do what you want - you said user was missing so try user<tab><tab> and it will list all the progs beginning with "user" so you can see if they work
[06:54] <Soir> newbuntu: you could ftp, you could network and use nfs, you could use dvds or external hard drives or other media... lots of ways :)
[06:54] <mnoir> hjmills: the fanct autocomplete is da bomb as far as I am concerned
[06:54] <mnoir> it autocompletes like everything
[06:54] <winston> Hi, is there a way to change the screen gamma?
[06:54] <Moofius> were can I find the ubuntu live-cd (that also have the option to install ubuntu from it)?
[06:55] <hjmills> fanct>
[06:55] <hjmills> ?
[06:55] <linda777> I see, I've got a handful of user commands.
[06:55] <mnoir> fancy*
[06:55] <hjmills> mnoir:  ah ok - is that what im using?
[06:55] <Vigo> winston: Yes
[06:55] <mnoir> hjmills: ya gotta enable it - look in yer bashrc for a clue
[06:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Moofius: It's on the Ubuntu download web pages as an ISO
[06:55] <Wanderer> !dpkg kernel
[06:55] <ubotu> dpkg: package maintenance system for Debian. In component main, is required. Version 1.13.22ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 1587 kB, installed size 4892 kB
[06:55] <Vigo> !gamma correction
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamma correction - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <Vigo> !gamma
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <Wanderer> !build kernel
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <Moofius> IntuitiveNipple: where?
[06:56] <Vigo> Oh well
[06:56] <winston> cunning name :)
[06:56] <fotoflo2> do i need to install a vnc server on ubuntu or does one already exist? if i need to install one, whats the best one?
[06:56] <mnoir> hjmills: look for programmable completion
[06:56] <jewbilee> Can anyone suggest a good site to learn the basics of terminal use?
[06:56] <Moofius> I only get to a country-selection and then three choices
[06:56] <jewbilee> I feel as though Im not using linux properly because I don't know how to use the terminal
[06:56] <Vigo> winston: I am not on it, butr it is in the Settings
[06:56] <winston> chrs
[06:56] <aoupi> jewbilee: http://linuxcommand.org/
[06:56] <mnoir> !basic
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about basic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <daedra> jewbilee: terminal r0x0rz
[06:57] <mnoir> !bash
[06:57] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:57] <jewbilee> daedra: thats why im trying to learn hahah
[06:57] <linda777> jewbilee: I've got an Ubuntu book that's full of mythical terminal commands.
[06:57] <jewbilee> mythical?
[06:57] <linda777> Yes. Some exist, some do not, it really adds an element of excitement to the CLI
[06:57] <Vigo> !screen setting
[06:57] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5.6.10 (edgy), package size 570 kB, installed size 976 kB
[06:58] <jewbilee> linda: thats quite funny, i bet the suspense is killer when you find one that works
[06:58] <Moofius> Service Temporarily Unavailable
[06:58] <Moofius> The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
[06:58] <Vigo> winston: wich version are you useing?
[06:58] <Moofius> on ubuntu.com
[06:58] <logivision> Hey all. I have a window's program I need to get working on Ubuntu. What's the best way ?
[06:58] <mnoir> linda777: many will be installable packages
[06:58] <linda777> It's a big payoff when one works, I'll tell you... Thanks for the tree info guys, that's working now.
[06:58] <newbuntu> Soir how would you do it to connect the pc to laptop to transfer a bunch of files...
[06:58] <Moofius> is the ubuntu-site closed?
[06:58] <winston> edgy
[06:58] <linda777> Thanks mnoir.
[06:58] <Soir> logivision: the 'best' way is to find a linux program ;) but if you can't do that, try wine
[06:58] <Moofius> and why?
[06:59] <IdleOne> logivision: what program?
[06:59] <linda777> I'm guessing I can also search for them in Synaptec?
[06:59] <IntuitiveNipple> Moofius: Yes, it looks like it is
[06:59] <mnoir> Moofius: nobody likes ubuntu anyway - nobody uses it :)
[06:59] <Vigo> !wine
[06:59] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:59] <IntuitiveNipple> The forums were down for maintainance earlier, too
[06:59] <Moofius> mnoir: well, what to use then?
[06:59] <Vigo> !beryl
[06:59] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:59] <newbuntu> linda777 apt-cache search <program>
[07:00] <DeCaelo> Except Mark Shuttleworth.
[07:00] <epitron> mnoir: nobody likes jokes why would anyone make a joke
[07:00] <fotoflo2> do i need to install a vnc server on ubuntu or does one already exist? if i need to install one, whats the best one?
[07:00] <Ash-Fox> !alsa
[07:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[07:00] <Soir> newbuntu: Well, either both to each other via crossover or wireless, or both to a hub/switch/similar via normal cable
[07:00] <DeCaelo> I always found it'd be funny if we heard news of him knocking out Gates in a bar or something.
[07:00] <Vigo> I love a go0od joke!
[07:00] <IntuitiveNipple> Moofius: try this mirror http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/
[07:00] <logivision> Soir: There isn't a linux version. It's a Point Of Sale program. We've been told there is a way to get it to work on linux, but the company doesn't support it. I'm trying to use CrossOver but It's not able to work with it. CrossOver is a better version of Wine, correct ?
[07:00] <linda777> newbuntu: Is there a way to force it to search for an exact string?
[07:00] <epitron> Vigo: i guess mine wasn't a good joke ;)
[07:00] <epitron> I'll try harder next time!
[07:01] <mnoir> linda777: you might find synaptic easier to use to search packages
[07:01] <newbuntu> linda777 you got me there, but yes probably
[07:01] <aoupi> linda777: I usualy do: apt-cache search blaha | grep blaha, since it searches in the description and name but only prints the name and short description
[07:01] <Vigo> All jokes are good, some do not allow the laughter to flow, tghere problem, not mine.
[07:01] <Soir> logivision: crossover is a version of wine tailored to use with specific programs by ms and adobe; you're better off with real wine
[07:02] <mnoir> Vigo: unfortunately, in a multi-cultural, multi-language group, jokes do not work....
[07:02] <mnoir> uuh - SOME jokes
[07:02] <DeCaelo> Except Bush jokes ;)
[07:02] <Ash-Fox> logivision, I use crossover and wine together.
[07:02] <IntuitiveNipple> oh i dunno, tryin saying "Windows" and you'll hear a lot of laughter :D
[07:02] <logivision> Soir: Thanks. I'm not sure how familiar  you are with the program but I'm going to need to access a MS server during installation and everyday use.
[07:03] <Vigo> True, chicken crossed the road is allways a funny one
[07:03] <xtknight> doh...ubuntuforums.org is down...any idea when it will be back up?
[07:03] <bazsl> I am new to Linux, have installed Ubuntu server and am trying to configure networking. What is the easiest most intuitive text editor to use to edit /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:03] <logivision> Soir: The program automatically looks for "My Network Neighbourhood" which is the problem.
[07:03] <IdleOne> bazsl: nano
[07:03] <mnoir> bazsl: you like gui or commandline
[07:03] <IdleOne> bazsl: gedit
[07:04] <aoupi> linda777: apt-cache --names-only search appname
[07:04] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone here using a Wacom tablet?
[07:04] <Vigo> nano and gedit are great, OpenOffice has some also
[07:04] <jewbilee> can anyone tell me a way to change the color of the terminal font and background?
[07:04] <hjmills> mnoir: thanks - what are the main differences? I dont wanna read that long /etc/bash_completion script to try and work it out?
[07:05] <bazsl> mnoir: Ubunto server does not have X installed AFAIK so it must be a command line editor.
[07:05] <jewbilee> Wait, i think i found it
[07:05] <linda777> jewbilee: Right click the window and change the profile
[07:05] <Vigo> jewbilee: Settings>Monitor>somewhere in there
[07:05] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm considering getting a tablet (possibly the Graphire4 4x5"),  but I want to be sure it will work in Ubuntu.
[07:05] <fotoflo2> !ping jaist.dl.sourceforge.net
[07:05] <linda777> jewbilee: It's "edit the profile"
[07:05] <mnoir> bazsl: i prefer vim
[07:06] <IdleOne> jewbilee: in terminal Edit > Current profile will give you a window with plenty of options
[07:06] <linda777> bazsl: pico is really easy to use.
[07:06] <keithhhhh> sorry but can someone tell me how to install fonts  :( I cant seem to.
[07:06] <aoupi> pico
[07:06] <Ash-Fox> Gah, I can't remember what that command was for setting 'default' alsa devices (the device that takes first place). I know there is a method todo it via asound.conf and kernel module tricks, but I'm pretty sure I used a command in the past. I can't remember what it was
[07:06] <linda777> bazsl: vi is reallly confusing if you're not used to it.
[07:06] <aoupi> pico = nano in ubuntu
[07:07] <HymnToLife> !fonts | keithhhhh
[07:07] <ubotu> keithhhhh: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:07] <mnoir> hjmills: they have attempted to build completion for anything that it makes sense fo.
[07:07] <mnoir> fo=for
[07:07] <xai> looking for an ASUS  AMD-dual core mobo that is well supported under ubuntu. Please advise. so far i've been steered towards M2V K8T890.
[07:07] <mnoir> hjmills: basically, whenever i am in terminal i hit tab alot and discover stuff :)\
[07:07] <Vigo> Ok, the path is fixed, am I permitted to test Fiesty with apt get? or do I download?
[07:08] <jewbilee> how do I know if im logged in as root?
[07:08] <aoupi> jewbilee: there is a # at the end of the prompt in the terminal
[07:08] <mnoir> Vigo: not sure what you are asking - feisty repos work just like others
[07:08] <aoupi> jewbilee: or just enter whoami
[07:08] <Vigo> mnoir: Thank you
[07:08] <mnoir> jewbilee: hopefully you are not, but id is the command
[07:09] <jewbilee> aoupi: if whoami return my name as opposed to root im ok right?
[07:09] <aoupi> jewbilee: yea
[07:09] <jewbilee> aoupi: ok
[07:09] <aoupi> jewbilee: try sudo whoami to see difference
[07:09] <jewbilee> aoupi: ahh, thanks
[07:11] <calvarez> how do I install wordpress in ubuntu?
[07:11] <linda777> Wordpress has an incredibly clear "5 minute install" calvarez
[07:11] <aoupi> calvarez: sudo apt-get install wordpress
[07:12] <Moofius> http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/ <- but were can I find the live-cd?!?!
[07:12] <apokryphos> Moofius: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[07:12] <linda777> Moofius: The desktop CD is also the live CD. Burn the iso.
[07:12] <rtking> moof try yeah that
[07:12] <Moofius> but I do not have so much ram
[07:13] <linda777> Then the live CD isn't going to help you...
[07:13] <peanutb> it seems the ubuntu website is giving out 503 errors
[07:13] <Moofius> I tested the other, but it was some strange blue thingyes
[07:14] <Moofius> just some big blue dots were floating around and then just lots of flickering
[07:14] <hjmills_> mnoir: he wants intuitive and vim - though i love it and it rocks - isnt that intuitive - nano is better on that front
[07:14] <rtking> linda might i as to msg me?
[07:15] <hjmills_> mnoir: oops - that was meant to be sent a while back - sorry
[07:15] <mnoir> hjmills_: :) but I find nano less intuitive :)  simpler but less intuitive
[07:15] <Vigo__> http://www.kubuntu.org/ is up
[07:16] <mnoir> hjmills_: my finger memory has vi imprinted on it
[07:16] <hjmills_> mnoir: how come? i think vim would be more confusing to the average user with the modal design - i remember trying to quit it when a forum post told me to use it...
[07:16] <hjmills_> mnoir: oh ok - lol
[07:17] <mnoir> :)
[07:17] <EnsignRedshirt> nano would be even nicer if the control keys matched either the linux or windows conventions.  Ctrl-O to save? sheesh.
[07:18] <linda777> rtking: Check your pm window...
[07:18] <rtking> yeah i know i am banned from prv asking you
[07:19] <rtking> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but
[07:19] <Moofius> But were can I find the right one for me, I am using parallels on mac and I plan to use 64 mb memory, the alternate just makes the parallels-window flicker (choosed linux/debian, 64 mb memory, otherwise the original settings)
[07:19] <HymnToLife> !register | rtking
[07:19] <ubotu> rtking: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:20] <Moofius> it flickers and shows some strange colors
[07:20] <linda777> THis pm is getting so built up now...
[07:20] <jewbilee> how can I go about changing the source for a program like amaroK?
[07:20] <rtking> thanks anyway
[07:20] <rtking> did you see my q?
[07:21] <mnoir> jewbilee: d/l source, change,recompile, be happy
[07:21] <HymnToLife> jewbilee, either get the source package from the repos or get it from http://amarok.kde.org
[07:21] <linda777> Nope, ask away.
[07:21] <Vigo____> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ Site is up
[07:22] <rtking> can i dcc the full disc to whoever asks in room or is that not allowed?
[07:22] <cello_rasp> what's a good, simple replacement for xmms?
[07:22] <calvarez> ok, I have mysql installed, when I try to run it from the CLi I get the following error: "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[07:22] <linda777> You can ask, my official rank is that I am the 975th most knowledgable person currently in this channel.
[07:22] <cello_rasp> rtking: use bit torrent if it is legal
[07:23] <winston> 975th, lol
[07:23] <linda777> Well, 976th now.
[07:23] <rtking> i know ubuntu is legal
[07:23] <MarcN> calvarez: is mysqld started?
[07:23] <linda777> Someone else came on.
[07:23] <ambimom> linda777: that's about a million higher than me rofl
[07:23] <cello_rasp> rtking: if it is already available then why not use the existing torrent?
[07:23] <calvarez> MarcN, I haven't started it, I just installed the packages through synaptic
[07:23] <yukito> ambimom, there aren't that many people in this channel
[07:24] <calvarez> MarcN, I had the impression that after apt-getting it, the daemon would start automatically
[07:24] <MarcN> calvarez: first time startup may take a minute or two.  It needs to create some initial tables.
[07:24] <ambimom> yukito:  in knowledge I'm at the bottom them
[07:24] <michael117> What is a good size for a /boot partition?
[07:24] <calvarez> MarcN, oh, how do I start it?
[07:24] <cello_rasp> rtking: or the existing direct download
[07:24] <IdleOne> how do I set rythmbox as default player instead of soundjuicer?
[07:24] <HymnToLife> michael117, depends how many distros you want to run with it
[07:25] <cello_rasp> boot? it is so small as to un-necessessary to make a sep. partition
[07:25] <hjmills> linda777: you may not be the most knowledgable person in the room but you have a book and a desire to learn and that counts for a lot
[07:25] <MarcN> calvarez: check if it is up,     ps auwx|grep mysqld         Manually start is sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[07:25] <ambimom> IdleOne:  system/preferences/multimedia
[07:25] <HymnToLife> the biggest thing in /boot is kernel images so it depends how many of them you have
[07:25] <HymnToLife> cello_rasp, a separate /boot makes it way easier to run several distros
[07:25] <jewbilee> IdleOne: right click the file and under properties, change Opens with to rhythmbox
[07:25] <michael117> HymnToLife: I will be just running ubuntu on this machine and I need a separate /boot partition because I want to LVM the rest of the disk.
[07:26] <HymnToLife> hen you'll be fine with 32 megs
[07:26] <ambimom> IdleOne:  scratch that....just go to the media you want and right click ...open with...always
[07:26] <HymnToLife> then*
[07:26] <calvarez> MarcN, there is no "mysqld" in /etc/init.d/
[07:26] <calvarez> this is odd
[07:26] <michael117> HymnToLife: How big are kernel images usually?
[07:26] <floating> hiz. I have a movie in a .bin format. file thisfile.bin says it is a data file only. When I try open it with vlc player, it won't play. The file is good, it works on windows machine
[07:26] <jewbilee> What kind of file is a .h file?
[07:26] <aoupi> michael117: around 8M counting both initrd and kernel
[07:27] <calvarez> MarcN, nevermind, I realized I had the client but not the server, rofl
[07:27] <HymnToLife> michael117, the kernel image + initrd is about 5 megs here on Debian
[07:27] <MarcN> calvarez: mysql
[07:27] <mnoir> jewbilee: a c language header usually
[07:27] <calvarez> jewbilee, it is a C or C++ header file
[07:27] <wayco> can anybody suggest an inexpensive easy to use and set-up webcam for ubuntu?
[07:27] <HymnToLife> should be more or less the same in Ubuntu
[07:27] <jewbilee> thanks
[07:27] <IdleOne> ambimom: I dont have either ofthe options you suggested
[07:27] <rtking> cello : no i had extra hard time finding the full dl's and torrents were so slow it made me think you all need more help but then i got all x . k . edu and u all versions and wanted to "give back as what says on all 4 web pages
[07:28] <michael117> HymnToLife: My home debian server boot partition seems to be much large for some weird reason... But anyway, for an Ubuntu desktop, 32MB is more than enough, you say?
[07:28] <juliosaucedo> hello, I have problems changing the id of 2 users in my computer, using System->Admin->Users window
[07:28] <mnoir> juliosaucedo: changing the id??
[07:28] <ambimom> IdleOne:  you can't right click on the media file to open it????? what are you trying to do?
[07:28] <juliosaucedo> the user id
[07:28] <_ceed_> Hi,
[07:28] <mnoir> juliosaucedo: you cannot
[07:29] <IdleOne> ambimom: I want rythmbox to startup when I put in a music cd instead of soundjuicer
[07:29] <HymnToLife> michael117, definitely, on my Debian desktop, /boot is 10,7 MB
[07:29] <ExM3th1x> hi together
[07:29] <jewbilee> in C, are :: used instead of . in Java?
[07:29] <fotoflo2> I went to synapic and searched for VNC and found that I have vino installed - how to i know if its workign? how do i get to it?
[07:29] <ambimom> then open up rhythmbox first...then load the cd
[07:29] <juliosaucedo> mnoir: there is not some way to do that?
[07:30] <IdleOne> ambimom: I was hoping to automate that part :P
[07:30] <PRAEDO> hello
[07:30] <mnoir> juliosaucedo: no - add the different name and rename the home dir and change the ownership of the files
[07:30] <ExM3th1x> i have bought a D-link dwl 122 rev.c1 usb wlan stick and want to use this driver instead of the ubuntu edgy inculeds
[07:30] <_ceed_> When I connect my Zen Micro MP3 player to my Ubuntu laptop the device manager says it's a camera and try to download pictures. Why is that?
[07:30] <ExM3th1x> http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rt2x00_beta
[07:30] <PRAEDO> if i su to a non priviledged user i get a shitty bash
[07:30] <juliosaucedo> ok, thanks
[07:30] <PRAEDO> how can i have the same bash as with root?
[07:30] <apokryphos> ubotu: language | PRAEDO
[07:30] <ubotu> PRAEDO: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:30] <juliosaucedo> by the way, i'm a unix newbie, what command can i use to manage users?
[07:30] <ExM3th1x> i mean this driver: rt2570
[07:30] <PRAEDO> what do you mean?
[07:30] <apokryphos> juliosaucedo: no need to use the command, use the programs in the menus
[07:31] <mnoir> PRAEDO: not only bad language, but also a poor description
[07:31] <freeeeeez> hello, i got some home movies in avi format.. how can i change avi to vob files and burn them to play on dvd? or do i have to burn to vob? i just want them to play on dvd players
[07:31] <ExM3th1x> could somebody tell me how to set up this and how to delete edgys inculdet driver?
[07:31] <HymnToLife> juliosaucedo, define "manage" :)
[07:31] <juliosaucedo> yes, i know, but only want to know the command to investigate more about that
[07:31] <mnoir> PRAEDO: there is only one 'bash'
[07:31] <PRAEDO> the bash i have doesn't support back key
[07:31] <winston> avoid the commandline at all costs :)
[07:31] <PRAEDO> and if i'm root i can use back key
[07:31] <kkrusty> how do you folks manage to type your passwords again and again because of no su?
[07:32] <aoupi> kkrusty: sudo -s ;)
[07:32] <kkrusty> i mean you cant login as root
[07:32] <rtking> cello?
[07:32] <apokryphos> or sudo -i, more appropriately
[07:32] <ambimom> Idleone:  It's been a while, but I seem to remember that when you click on the actual music file, which is on
[07:32] <juliosaucedo> winston: mmm, ubuntu is almost close to do that, but it continue being linux
[07:32] <apokryphos> kkrusty: you can get into a root jailed session, of course.
[07:32] <apokryphos> kkrusty: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[07:32] <mnoir> kkrusty: i set the timeout to 1 hour and have no problems at all
[07:32] <ambimom> Idleone:  CD too, it gives you the option of making that player the default automatically
[07:33] <darich> hello all
[07:33] <apokryphos> nice safe system ;-)
[07:33] <ambimom> Idleone:  if you load cd, then right click on it (should appear on the desktop) and make whatever media player you want as the "open with"
[07:33] <apokryphos> kind of defeats the object if your sudo timeout is so long
[07:33] <darich> I have a problem, well my sister has a problem
[07:33] <bmhm> gi all
[07:33] <bmhm> *hi
[07:33] <darich> we've removed network manager from her laptop
[07:33] <mnoir> apokryphos: i use sudo more to remind me to think
[07:33] <darich> and reset the network interfaces file
[07:34] <IdleOne> ambimom: I dont get that option " open with " when I right click
[07:34] <bmhm> Am I the only one who cannot access the Ubuntu.com webpage?
[07:34] <darich> and it won't let her login properly
[07:34] <ambimom> Idleclick:  what do you get?
[07:34] <freeeeeez> can anyone help me?
[07:34] <rtking> no page is under construction
[07:34] <IdleOne> ambimom: I have Open but no open with
[07:34] <mnoir> apokryphos: i am double natted on a home network so i feel the security risk is acceptable
[07:34] <kkrusty> but working with KDE. You'd have to type the password again and again right?
[07:34] <ambimom> IdleOne:  it's under Open
[07:34] <p3t3rZ> how do i make a dir usin terminal?
[07:34] <darich> just a white box in the corner and then it freezes
[07:35] <apokryphos> kkrusty: what? Why? Did you read the FAQ?
[07:35] <ambimom> IdleOne Look one line below Open
[07:35] <eternal_p> p3t3rZ: l
[07:35] <eternal_p> or ls -l
[07:35] <aoupi> p3t3rZ: mkdir name
[07:35] <eternal_p> which is my prefence
[07:35] <HymnToLife> P3L|C4N0, mkdir
[07:35] <bmhm> Am I the only one who cannot access the Ubuntu.com webpage?
[07:35] <rtking>  i had extra hard time finding the full dl's and torrents were so slow it made me think you all need more help but then i got all x . k . edu and u all versions and wanted to "give back as what says on all 4 web pages
[07:35] <IdleOne> ambimom: I understand what you are saying. it is not there
[07:35] <mnoir> p3t3rZ: mkdir
[07:35] <eternal_p> bmhm ubuntu.com seems to be down
[07:35] <hjmills> _ceed_: probably linux reads it as a normal usb disk and see's pictures so it decides its a camera and looks to see what program to use on a camara - if you dont use the camera program with any normal camera you can change that
[07:35] <ambimom> IdleOne:  You don't get a menu that says :  Open, Open With, Scripts, etc.????
[07:35] <kkrusty> apokryphos: skimmed through. ill ask anything after reading
[07:35] <dmslack_> what do i need to do to set up a printer attached to the network with a print server?
[07:35] <bmhm> ty eternal_p
[07:36] <eternal_p> ...and the forums are under maintance
[07:36] <hjmills> _ceed_: can you add music to it normally or do you need to use gnomad2 with libmtp?
[07:36] <IdleOne> ambimom: my right click menu says Open browse folder ...
[07:36] <ambimom> IdleOne:  If you don't get a full menu, I'm stumped....I don't have enough technical knowledge to tell you why you don't....sorry
[07:36] <eternal_p> does anyone here know how to get rid of the splash screen on Beryl?
[07:36] <NaPsTeR> hi
[07:36] <ambimom> IdleOne:  then open the browse folder....
[07:36] <ambimom> IdleOne, you'll see a lot of music files...
[07:36] <mnoir> !beryl
[07:36] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:36] <hjmills> eternal_p: yes- run beryl-manager and change the beryl settings so it doesnt load the splash plugin
[07:36] <ambimom> IdleOne:  right click one of those files....
[07:37] <eternal_p> hjmills: that much I figured
[07:37] <NaPsTeR> i need help
[07:37] <eternal_p> I cannot find that setting though
[07:37] <NaPsTeR> i am a noob 2 linux and ubuntu
[07:37] <hjmills> eternal_p: can you open beryl-manager?
[07:37] <IdleOne> ambimom: when I click browse folder it starts soundjuicer
[07:37] <eternal_p> yup
[07:37] <NaPsTeR> i need to be able to listen to all my music from windows
[07:37] <ambimom> then stop soundjuicer
[07:37] <p3t3rZ> how do i change permissions on a dir using terminal
[07:37] <NaPsTeR> i have mp3s and wmas
[07:37] <hjmills> eternal_p: sorry - beryl-settings?
[07:37] <NaPsTeR> wat do i do
[07:37] <NaPsTeR> plz help
[07:37] <mnoir> eternal_p: there is a whole channel eager to serve you: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:38] <ambimom> Idleone:  and look for the CD in your "Places"
[07:38] <aoupi> p3t3rZ: chmod --help
[07:38] <eternal_p> hjmills: I'm in
[07:38] <roler> I am writing a theme for Gnome - GTK2 and need to know if there is a reference to all of the style properties available...
[07:38] <hjmills> eternal_p: then if you have the latest beryl stuff there should be a series of expandable stuff on the right
[07:38] <hjmills> eternal_p: expand "Toys and such"
[07:38] <NaPsTeR> anyone?
[07:38] <jannu1> whats good program for adjust subtitles for ubuntu?
[07:38] <ambimom> IdleOne, once you've found CD, there should be way to look at the tracks on the CD
[07:38] <eternal_p> i'm there
[07:38] <hjmills> eternal_p: uncheckthe mark next to Splash in that column
[07:39] <tazer> Are there any other graphical tools for extracting RAR files? The default thingy in gnome (dapper drake) doesnt show a progress bar. That would be nice.. cheers.
[07:39] <eternal_p> oh crap..
[07:39] <aoupi> jannu1: mplayer is very configurable
[07:39] <hjmills> eternal_p: what you done now?
[07:39] <eternal_p> i've been looking at that for two weeks and didn't see that
[07:39] <eternal_p> ty :)
[07:39] <dmslack_> what do i need to do to set up a printer attached to the network with a print server?
[07:39] <NaPsTeR> plz
[07:39] <hjmills> eternal_p: sure :D
[07:39] <jannu1> well ill try it
[07:39] <linda777> Thanks for all the help, y'all. See you soon. :)
[07:39] <hjmills> linda777: bye
[07:39] <hjmills> dmslack_: have you plugged the printer in?
[07:39] <mnoir> rtking: by answering questions?
[07:40] <hjmills> dmslack_: then i would think you could add it as a network printer by just giving its ip address
[07:40] <k0> have a problem with my mplayer it works wen played using terminal but not wen i open it within desktop
[07:40] <EnsignRedshirt> rtking: Help NaPsTeR play his music
[07:40] <PRAEDO> how can i have the same bash as with root?
[07:40] <PRAEDO> the bash i have doesn't support back key
[07:40] <rtking> lol
[07:40] <hjmills> dmslack_: no, sorry the ip of the print server
[07:40] <k0> it says error opening video output
[07:40] <dmslack_> hjmils: it's an existing printer on the network, but it is attached by a print server, it doesn't have an ethernet port by default
[07:41] <dmslack_> hjmills: so it doesn't have an ip address assigned
[07:41] <k0> anyone too help me with mplayer
[07:41] <jfried> hi, happy new year to all :)
[07:41] <aoupi> jannu1: r and t adjusts position and z and x adjust delay
[07:41] <jfried> does anyone know, how i can customize the gnome "System > Logout" command?
[07:41] <pchilds> I wish to know if there is anyway to get surround sound to work in dapper the same way edgy does?
[07:41] <mnoir> PRAEDO: try google 'bash backspace' and read - there is a lot of material to help
[07:41] <hjmills> dmslack_: the print server should have an ip address
[07:42] <jannu1> i wish is there some progarm so i can modify .srt and .sub files
[07:42] <dmslack_> hjmills: i agree, but it only seems to work over like ipx
[07:42] <mnoir> PRAEDO: watch out for locale related things
[07:42] <jannu1> so i dont need adjust every time i watch again
[07:42] <hjmills> dmslack_: sorry - i dont know enough about network printers - i was just kinda logicking it out - try the wiki if it is up? anybody know if it is?
[07:42] <quantum_world> !rtfm
[07:42] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:43] <bmhm> lol quantum_world ^^
[07:43] <dmslack_> hjmills: s'ok... the forums are down unfortunately
[07:43] <rtking> what about network printer?  can all compters ping the printer ip addy?
[07:43] <hjmills> dmslack_: is the wiki?
[07:43] <hjmills> !wiki | dmslack_
[07:43] <ubotu> dmslack_: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[07:43] <NaPsTeR> i really need help
[07:43] <NaPsTeR> will anyone help mwe?
[07:44] <desper> haloo
[07:44] <rtking> napster what is it?
[07:44] <Malachi> I'm having problems opening specific files with specific applications.
[07:44] <hjmills> !ask | NaPsTeR
[07:44] <ubotu> NaPsTeR: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:44] <NaPsTeR> i just starting using linux and ubuntu yesterday so im pretty clueless
[07:44] <hjmills> Malachi: what files and what apps?
[07:44] <mnoir> Malachi: like specifically what?
[07:44] <hjmills> !specific
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about specific - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <NaPsTeR> i need to be able to listen to all my music from windows
[07:45] <Malachi> Like, for example, mnoir and hjmills, .exe files. They're set to open with wine, but they don't.
[07:45] <NaPsTeR> i have only mp3's and wma's
[07:45] <Gosha> !server
[07:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[07:45] <NaPsTeR> nono
[07:45] <Gosha> !http
[07:45] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[07:45] <NaPsTeR> just music
[07:45] <desper> use audicious
[07:45] <Gosha> !bot
[07:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:45] <Gosha> ..
[07:45] <desper> audacious
[07:45] <Gosha> where is that bot
[07:45] <hjmills> NaPsTeR: ok - you need to install all the gstreamer stuff
[07:45] <hjmills> !gstreamer
[07:45] <Gosha> .. i mean the channel with ubtu on
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <NaPsTeR> from where?
[07:45] <Gosha> ubotu*
[07:45] <NaPsTeR> how?
[07:45] <mnoir> Malachi: do they work if executed in another way?
[07:45] <desper> apt-get
[07:45] <quantum_world> !restricted
[07:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:46] <p3t3rZ> is it possible to allow the root account to login to the graphic interface?
[07:46] <k0> help please, mplayer doesnt seem to play when opened directly but plays just fine wen done using terminal
[07:46] <Malachi> mnoir: Right-click and open with wine.
[07:46] <NaPsTeR> ??
[07:46] <hjmills> !restricted | NaPsTeR
[07:46] <ubotu> NaPsTeR: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:46] <rtking> byte fur now
[07:46] <hjmills> thanks quantum_world
[07:46] <k0> i have changed the video out, but no luck
[07:46] <NaPsTeR> wat?
[07:46] <p3t3rZ> is it possible to allow the root account to login to the graphic interface?
[07:46] <quantum_world> np
[07:46] <bmhm> Hi - I need Adobe Reader for Ubuntu 6.10 amd64
[07:46] <bmhm> Hi - I need Adobe Reader for Ubuntu 6.10 amd64
[07:46] <NaPsTeR> hjmills: wat do i do?
[07:46] <hjmills> NaPsTeR: that is information about how to get it working
[07:46] <aoupi> k0: try starting through gmplayer instead of mplayer or the opposite :)
[07:47] <quantum_world> p3t3rZ, yes
[07:47] <Jowi> p3t3rZ, yes. you set it up in gdmsetup
[07:47] <quantum_world> just type startx as root
[07:47] <NaPsTeR> wat must i do though
[07:47] <hjmills> NaPsTeR: you click on the first link and follow the instructions on that web page
[07:47] <mnoir> Malachi: i understand what you are saying.  Do they work correctly if opened in another way like by invoking wine from the cmd line?
[07:47] <Malachi> Yes.
[07:47] <quantum_world> or what Jowi said
[07:47] <Malachi> mnoir: http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/9701/screenshotgg5.png
[07:47] <EnsignRedshirt> NaPsTeR: For various reasons, Ubuntu does not play mp3 files "out of the box". You will have to install some more programs.  The links explain how to do that.
[07:47] <hjmills> NaPsTeR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:48] <hjmills> NaPsTeR: or run the following command (without the quotes) "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs"
[07:48] <Malachi> mnoir: But even so, http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/8289/screenshotgb4.png
[07:48] <EnsignRedshirt> hjmills: Are those in the main repository?
[07:49] <mnoir> hmm - i do not know wine - but it wants to give you a hard time....
[07:49] <Gosha> how do i install LAMP on edgy?
[07:49] <Dirtbag> Goodevening/morning/please fill in your time :)
[07:49] <Gosha> !LAMP
[07:49] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:49] <Dirtbag> I have a problem burning video DVD's
[07:49] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt: oh - good point - he needs multiverse and universe repos
[07:49] <k0> aoupi, Couldn't open: /dev/mga_vid
[07:49] <k0> Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[07:49] <k0> i get this error
[07:50] <Dirtbag> I tried to today, and it won't let me, or more likely I don't understand how
[07:50] <aoupi> k0: weird, my graphical mplayer seems broken too :(, haven't noticed since I always start playback from terminal
[07:50] <aoupi> k0: tell me if you find a way to fix it :)
[07:50] <rtking> back
[07:50] <mnoir> Malachi: i advise you to yell (quietly) for wine help.  other extensions acting wrongly?
[07:50] <rtking> !rules
[07:50] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:50] <Malachi> mnoir: Yes.
[07:51] <k0> well i fixed a problem similar to this by editing the mplayer.conf
[07:51] <k0> and changing the vo output
[07:51] <Malachi> mnoir: Movie Player is set to open .rm files, but a similar dialogue box opens.
[07:51] <k0> but this time it doesnt seem to work
[07:51] <aoupi> k0: when i set gmplayer to use xv (as it uses in terminal) it startet playing but started complaining about missing audio codecs
[07:52] <aoupi> I thought gmplayer was just a frontend
[07:52] <rtking> !downloads
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about downloads - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <k0> aoupi, wheres the conf file for gmplayer
[07:53] <Zyphern>  I had a problem with my network when using ubuntu. someone told me I needed to make ubuntu act as a DHCP Client in order for it all to work. Looking in the packages section there are 3 different ones. dhcp-client (2.0pl5-19.5ubuntu2) /// dhcp3-client (3.0.4-12ubuntu1) /// dhcpcd (1:2.0.3-1). Which one should I use?
[07:53] <rtking> i dint do that did i???
[07:53] <mnoir> Malachi: looks like a protective mechanism of some kind that i have never seen.
[07:53] <mnoir> dunno
[07:53] <bmhm> Hi - I need Adobe Reader for Ubuntu 6.10 amd64
[07:53] <Malachi> mnoir: Okay.
[07:54] <maddash> !seen
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <rtking> or is that a netsplit --- been away from irc for 10 yrs
[07:54] <bmhm> Hi - I need Adobe Reader for Ubuntu 6.10 amd64
[07:54] <maddash> damn where's h3xis?
[07:54] <mnoir> Malachi: i am sure it can be altered.  one thing clear - the reason i asked the question - mime seems to be working and recognizing it
[07:54] <rasman> Zyphern, there should be dhcp3-client installed by default for desktop installations
[07:54] <Malachi> mnoir: Right.
[07:54] <Malachi> mnoir: I'm googling again for an answer. Thanks.
[07:55] <aoupi> k0: in ~/.mplayer
[07:55] <aoupi> there's a bunch there I just found
[07:55] <k0> yeh dnt seem to work
[07:55] <mnoir> Malachi: linux is still a complicated big thing - divide and conquer :)
[07:55] <rasman> Zyphern, the command you need to run is "sudo dhclient eth0" if your network adapter is eth0.
[07:55] <Zyphern> home.cogeco.ca/~justin.vanderheide/status.png
[07:56] <Zyphern> Thats the screenshot I showed in #linux and they told me to get dhcpcd
[07:56] <rtking> what ever happened to ed k x ????
[07:56] <k0> aoupi, yeh i works within terminal when u specify the vo
[07:56] <maddash> anyone here running breezy? with fglrx?
[07:57] <apokryphos> ubotu: anyone
[07:57] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:57] <xeno_> how do I make an irc bot?
[07:57] <maddash> psht.
[07:57] <httped> xeno_, eggdrop
[07:57] <maddash> silly bot
[07:57] <httped> google it
[07:57] <apokryphos> xeno_: supybot is good to play with
[07:57] <apokryphos> ubotu: info supybot
[07:57] <ubotu> supybot: robust and user friendly Python IRC bot. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.83.2-1 (edgy), package size 448 kB, installed size 2892 kB
[07:57] <apokryphos> blootbot is another popular one
[07:57] <rasman> Zyphern, run 'ifconfig'  Dhcp should be automatically used unless you changed the configuration
[07:57] <apokryphos> ubotu: info blootbot
[07:57] <ubotu> blootbot: a severely modified infobot for IRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-5 (edgy), package size 242 kB, installed size 972 kB
[07:58] <xeno_> hmm tnx apokryphos
[07:58] <maddash> what do you guys have for glxgears -printfps?
[07:58] <rtking> hmmmmmmmmm
[07:59] <apokryphos> xeno_: supybot/blootbots are good for factoid-bots and useless other stuff, eggdrops are for channel guarding
[07:59] <apokryphos> not that widely used on Freenode
[07:59] <Zyphern> Rasman, it is, I go into the administrator network settings and it says DHCP in the dropdown list
[07:59] <rtking> what ever happened to channels Edubuntu xubuntu kubuntu?
[07:59] <EnsignRedshirt> maddash: 9171 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1834.029 FPS
[07:59] <xeno_> which one do you recommend apokryphos ?
[07:59] <Zyphern> My subnet mask is <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:59] <apokryphos> rtking: they're all still there
[07:59] <Music_Shuffle> rtking, they still exist.
[07:59] <rtking> really?
[07:59] <apokryphos> xeno_: ubotu and Ubugtu here are supybots; I'd say they're the best.
[08:00] <rtking> did i miss spell?
[08:00] <apokryphos> but of course it depends on what you want and what you're looking for really
[08:00] <Music_Shuffle> rtking, yarly. /join #kubuntu
[08:00] <maddash> ensignredshit: holy crap. what resolution are you in? what's your hardware stats? is fglrx  in there?
[08:00] <rtking> heheh i forgot #  lol
[08:00] <xeno_> one last thing apokryphos m8 - how do I get supybot?
[08:00] <apokryphos> xeno_: install it like any other package
[08:00] <Music_Shuffle> maddash, his result isn't that insane...
[08:00] <apokryphos> xeno_: it takes some time to configure though, on the commandline.
[08:00] <Dirtbag> I can't burn a videodvd, I just tried burning a audio cd and that did work, guids I found said I need to use growsiofs, but I don't know how, also when I tried burning with gnomebaker produces a error that could be transloated into " makeisofs can't be found"
[08:01] <EnsignRedshirt> maddash: 1600x1200.  nvidia card, 5600 something-or-other (sorry, I'm not really a hardware guru).
[08:01] <rasman> Zyphern, we still need to see the output of 'ifconfig' from a command line.  Application --> Accessories --> Terminal
[08:01] <xtknight> how do I control the fan speed of my CPU?
[08:01] <name> what the crappy hell?
[08:01] <Zyphern> Rasman, I have that somewhere hold on
[08:01] <sinisterguy> i've been having some trouble playing vob files from my DVD archives under ubuntu. no matter what media player i use its all jittery. the audio's usually fine, but this video doesn't even play successive frames. any suggestions?
[08:01] <name> i can't delete "update-notifier" from the startup progs
[08:02] <Zyphern> I have the output of "ifconfig -a" upstairs on my other computer
[08:02] <maddash> music_shuffle: his stats make mine - ~780 fps - look anachronic... even though I'm running fglrx
[08:02] <Music_Shuffle> What are YOU running in the way of a gfx card?
[08:02] <coe> sinisterguy, Make sure that DMA is turned on.
[08:02] <maddash> laptop. ati radeon x300.
[08:03] <sinisterguy> coe: on my HD?
[08:03] <xai> looking for an ASUS  AMD-dual core mobo that is well supported under ubuntu. Any ideas?
[08:03] <Zyphern> Aswell rasman, every computer in the house loses its internet connectivity when I boot ubuntu
[08:03] <coe> sinisterguy, No, DVD drive
[08:03] <aoupi> k0: rm -rf ~/.mplayer worked :)
[08:03] <aoupi> k0: it still gives me warnings but it plays
[08:04] <sinisterguy> coe: i'm not playing it from the DVD drive
[08:04] <EnsignRedshirt> maddash: I've been told that glxgears is not a reliable measure of graphics performance.
[08:04] <rtking> wow that channel is as slow as the dl torrenets
[08:04] <coe> sinisterguy, Oh my mistake. Thought you were playing a regular DVD
[08:04] <xeno_> apokryphos:  i successfully installed supybot, any hints how to configure it pls? tnx
[08:04] <maddash> ensignredshit: it isn't. but it gives a half-decent approximation.
[08:05] <maddash> ensignredshirt***
[08:05] <maddash> geez
[08:05] <apokryphos> xeno_: read the documentation :)
[08:05] <bmhm> !rtfm
[08:05] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:05] <bmhm> @ apokryphos
[08:05] <bmhm> ;)
[08:05] <sinisterguy> coe: another bizare thing happens though, when i "play" the dvd drive with totem-xine it works fine, but if i try to play the .vob file directly from the DVD it goes jittery
[08:05] <ExM3th1x> does somebody here have a dwl 122 (c1) working?
[08:06] <ExM3th1x> i need a driver that is working with aircrackng
[08:06] <tonyKUN> I need help before installing Ubuntu for the first time
[08:06] <tonyKUN> What file system should my harddrive be? ext3? ntfs?
[08:06] <apokryphos> bmhm: not even remotely similar
[08:06] <apokryphos> 8)
[08:06] <jbroome> ext3 will be fine
[08:06] <EnsignRedshirt> tonyKUN: ext3 is good. Definitely not ntfs.
[08:06] <bmhm> tonyKUN: reiserFS :)
[08:06] <rasman> Zyphern, it sounds like ubuntu is running as a dhcp server.
[08:06] <Jowi> tonyKUN, ext3 is recommended. for the linux partitions that is.
[08:06] <bmhm> I prefer reiser
[08:06] <m1n1st3r> wow, this place is a zoo, could somebody plz point the way to a ubuntu server help channel?
[08:07] <jbroome> m1n1st3r: this is it
[08:07] <Malachi> XD
[08:07] <m1n1st3r> thx
[08:07] <kmaynard> bmhm, dont leave any sharp objects near your pc
[08:07] <jbroome> bmhm: careful, it'll kill your files and hide them somewhere. :P
[08:07] <tonyKUN> one more question, since im going to dualboot, can i set windows as my default if i don't pick within the timelimit
[08:07] <bmhm> jbroome: kmaynard lol its so amazing fast... :)
[08:07] <maddash> tonykun: sure.
[08:07] <kmaynard> :-D
[08:07] <tonyKUN> how?
[08:07] <maddash> tonykun: what's your primary bootloader?
[08:07] <bmhm> do you know whats funny about ubuntu?
[08:07] <bmhm>  they want users to use ogg instead of mp3. Ok, i can accept that.
[08:07] <jbroome> tonyKUN: yeah, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to point to windows
[08:07] <bmhm> but why the hell did they include preview playback for mp3, but not for ogg?
[08:07] <m1n1st3r> anybody here experienced with vmware server install, if so, i'd appreciate a moment of your time
[08:08] <bmhm> this is wired
[08:08] <EnsignRedshirt> bmhm: reiser is supposed to be good, too, but I got burned once when I tried to resize a reiser partition.
[08:08] <k0> yep u can fix it by just editing the ~/.mplayer to use xv vo
[08:08] <maddash> tonykun: ntldr? grub?
[08:08] <bmhm> EnsignRedshirt: don't resize it... havent made a backup? your fault :
[08:08] <rasman> Zyphern, you can verify by running 'dpkg -l dhcp*' and see if dhcpd has ii as the first two characters (it stands for commanded to install and installed successfully)
[08:08] <maddash> tonykun: it' it's grub, you can sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:08] <tonyKUN> maddash: haven't installed ubuntu yet, so don't know what your talking about
[08:08] <tonyKUN> ok
[08:08] <tonyKUN> thanks guy
[08:08] <EnsignRedshirt> bmhm: *Now* I now that!  But the resize program gave no warning...
[08:08] <tonyKUN> off to install
[08:08] <maddash> tonykun: just don't install to the mbr
[08:09] <tonyKUN> dont install to mbr?
[08:09] <rasman> Zyphern, you will want to uninstall the dhcp server with 'sudo apt-get uninstall dhcpd'
[08:09] <bmhm> EnsignRedshirt: it was not coded for a DAU ;)
[08:09] <tonyKUN> what do you mean by that?
[08:09] <maddash> tonykun: ...well, it's up to you, really...I prefer to retain the windows bootloader as the primary
[08:09] <tonyKUN> i made a partition already
[08:09] <maddash> tonykun: MBR = Master boot record
[08:10] <tonyKUN> how do i not install to it
[08:10] <maddash> tonykun: if you allow grub to install to the MBR, then you'll see grub the first thing everytime you turn on your computer
[08:10] <EnsignRedshirt> \me is not ashamed to admit that he is a DAU.
[08:10] <maddash> tonykun: the installer will ask you whether you want grub in the master boot record...
[08:10] <maddash> ensignredshirt: isn't it "/me"?
[08:11] <tonyKUN> so say no
[08:11] <maddash> tonykun: it's up to you
[08:11] <tonyKUN> whats recommended
[08:11] <maddash> ensignredshirt: of course not! slashes are slanted. haha.
[08:11] <tonyKUN> because ill probably still be using windows alot more frequently
[08:12] <mnoir> tonyKUN: most folks let grub be the primary anyway - it is known to be reliable
[08:12] <maddash> tonykun: don't install to the mbr, b/c if you do, it'll be rather difficult to change your mind later on
[08:12] <kakakoka> ..
[08:12] <tonyKUN> ok
[08:12] <tonyKUN> thanks guys
[08:12] <maddash> tonykun: just install grub to the bootsector of your ubuntu partition. it'll ask you for something like, "/dev/hda1"
[08:13] <tonyKUN> ok
[08:13] <tonyKUN> thanks maddash
[08:13] <borg> how do i install firefox .jar themes?
[08:13] <maddash> tonykun: anytime.
[08:13] <newbuntu> If your Xorg.conf is screwed up and its backup , how can you reinstall it ?
[08:13] <duncan_> hello. How can I patch things in linux? I need to patch wine and there is only link to edited file (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=3012&action=view). How can I apply this?
[08:13] <Ponsjuh22> basic question
[08:13] <kbrosnan> borg: drag and drop to the theme mananager in firefox
[08:13] <maddash> newbuntu: do, "sudo apt-get remove apt"
[08:13] <maddash> newbuntu: j/k don't do that
[08:13] <mwe> newbuntu: you have to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:13] <Ponsjuh22> how can i change my keyboard settings to type the " without pressing the spacebar
[08:14] <maddash> newbuntu: you could find a default xorg.conf on google
[08:14] <newbuntu> its frustrating, it takes 10 minutes from login to make my desktop appear
[08:14] <mwe> newbuntu: that will create a new one
[08:14] <Wanderer> Anyone know the proper way to build a kernel from source using the ubuntu way?
[08:14] <Wanderer> I looked at the KernelCustomBuild but that isn't complete it seems
[08:14] <mnoir> !fixres |newbuntu
[08:14] <ubotu> newbuntu: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:14] <borg> kbrosnan, kthx
[08:14] <Wanderer> I just need to get the sound working on this toshiba satalite
[08:15] <maddash> has anyone here got fglrx running on breezy?
[08:15] <Dirtbag> Can someone help me with a problem I have with burning videodvd?
[08:15] <mnoir> !kernel | Wanderer
[08:15] <ubotu> Wanderer: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:15] <newbuntu> in task manager it says that I have 2 xsessions running and 3 kdestart
[08:16] <mnoir> Wanderer: sorry - i didn't see you had already been there
[08:16] <Wanderer> yeah, reading that,  the recomended method isn't working
[08:16] <Wanderer> np, appreciate the suggestion
[08:16] <Ponsjuh22> anyone
[08:16] <Zyphern> Who was helping me earlier? I have the ifconfig readout
[08:16] <Ponsjuh22> in windows it's the keyboard input
[08:16] <Ponsjuh22> but in ubuntu it doen't work
[08:17] <mnoir> Wanderer: btw, as long as you are using the ubuntu header and source packages, the generic build process is the same as any debian kernel
[08:17] <daedra> !ask
[08:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:17] <newbuntu> it sucks because im in dapper on this machine and recovery login doesnt take me to a prompt where I could kill the processes
[08:17] <mnoir> Wanderer: so any howto should work
[08:17] <Ponsjuh22> really need the " key working without the " + [space]
[08:17] <stefg> Zyphern: put your outpout to the pastebin mentioned in the /topic and post the link in here
[08:17] <Zyphern> alright
[08:18] <Wanderer> mnoir: well, I tried using the suggested method so I can do it "right" instead of by hand as I used to
[08:18] <whileimhere> How do you read an ebook (lit) file?
[08:18] <Wanderer> it fails on the "AUTOBUILD=1......" line
[08:18] <newbuntu> if I get a standard xorg.conf I guess I have to fill in all the info, or will bootup fill all that in?
[08:19] <elyon> What is the partition manager in Ubuntu?
[08:19] <maddash> newbuntu: use dpkg-reconfigure as mwe suggested
[08:19] <stefg> !fixres | newbuntu
[08:19] <ubotu> newbuntu: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:19] <Zyphern> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/264/
[08:19] <gameover> hi
[08:19] <gameover> problem with my wireless
[08:20] <gameover> someone help?
[08:20] <newbuntu> thanks
[08:20] <mwe> whileimhere: AFAIK you have to convert the .lit file
[08:20] <maddash> !ask | gameover
[08:20] <ubotu> gameover: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:20] <stefg> !wifi | gameover
[08:20] <ubotu> gameover: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:21] <gameover> ok... i have a laptop hp pavillion with a build in broadcom card
[08:21] <Zyphern> stefg: Did you get the link?
[08:21] <gameover> ubuntu reconozi a card with wireless extension on eth1
[08:21] <stefg> gameover: read the link ubotu gave you
[08:21] <Ponsjuh22> my "-key (shift+') doen't give me a " until i press space...need this solved so i  have to press only shift+' to get the "
[08:22] <jodok> hi, i need to rebuild glibc with -mno-tls-direct-seg-refs (xen nptl support) - any idea how to do this?
[08:22] <gameover> ok.. i read it before ask :) thanks
[08:22] <stefg> Zyphern: yeah, i got the link, but since i'm not the person originally helping you i don't know what the question is
[08:22] <Zyphern> ohh okay
[08:22] <jodok> it says something about modifying CFLAGS in the debian/rules file...
[08:23] <duncan_> hello. How can I patch things in linux? I need to patch wine and there is only link to edited file (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=3012&action=view). How can I apply this?
[08:23] <stefg> Zyphern: wireless trouble? then read !wifi
[08:23] <Zyphern> unfortunately its not
[08:23] <RickyRay> does ubuntu support raid 1 during install?
[08:23] <RickyRay> and sata
[08:24] <Deja-Vu> ufff ne kadar cok ubuntu kullanicisi varmis
[08:24] <IntuitiveNipple> Ricky: depends on the controller and existing RAID config
[08:24] <neuratix> !wifi
[08:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:24] <Ponsjuh22> i've got it
[08:24] <mnoir> duncan - you are going to need to learn to build from source
[08:24] <Ponsjuh22> thnx everone :D :P
[08:24] <stefg> Zyphern: so your ifconfig looks sane so far, wht's not working?
[08:24] <mnoir> !build | duncan_
[08:24] <ubotu> duncan_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:24] <Zyphern> I am using an SMC Barricade. Whenever I boot Ubuntu every computer in my house loses it's internet connectivity, however I can still connect to my router (<IP_ADDRESS>) (see: http://home.cogeco.ca/~justin.vanderheide/status.png). I have the networking set to DHCP yet I still have no internet.
[08:24] <jbroome> !tr | Deja-Vu
[08:24] <ubotu> Deja-Vu: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[08:25] <RickyRay> intutivenipple, can you help me setup my system if i tell you how i'd like the raid?
[08:25] <duncan_> thx
[08:25] <Jowi> duncan_, get the source code for the program you want to patch. apply the patch to the source code. compile the source. install it. (quick guide that one)
[08:25] <Deja-Vu> ubotu saol tesekkurler
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about saol tesekkurler - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <IntuitiveNipple> Ricky: you'll need to work it out for yourself, like the rest of us. Its very much a trial-an-error and lots of RTFM
[08:25] <Zyphern> I was told I need to get DHCPCD or another DHCP Client daemon, then I was also told that DHCP3 Client came with Ubuntu and to run "sudo dhclient eth0"
[08:25] <Zyphern> So I'm not sure what I should do
[08:25] <stefg> Zyphern: the reason for all other computers losing their 'net might be that the ubuntu-box is grbbing the routers IP
[08:25] <Zyphern> stefg: How do I stop that?
[08:26] <Zyphern> Someone suggested that ubuntu was trying to act as the DHCP Server
[08:26] <stefg> But , thinking further, that's unlikely... .100 is not a typical router ip
[08:26] <mnoir> Zyphern: how does it get it's net address?
[08:27] <Zyphern> my router?
[08:27] <desper> how can i set software preferred, say, use audacious to open all the mp3s by double clicking?
[08:27] <mnoir> Zyphern: is it configured correctly to do that?
[08:27] <Zyphern> to do what?
[08:27] <lufis> desper: right click on the file and click the tab "Open with"
[08:27] <lufis> desper: in the properties of thefile
[08:28] <evildrummer> is there anyway to install gnome on an ubuntu server, I have tried 'apt-get install gnome' but I get an error
[08:28] <desper> o!
[08:28] <desper> 3x
[08:28] <mnoir> Zyphern: get it's address through the router
[08:28] <IntuitiveNipple> evil - i think its ... install desktop, or close to that
[08:28] <evildrummer> @In ill try that
[08:28] <stefg> ! ipv6 | Zyphern
[08:28] <ubotu> Zyphern: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:28] <Zyphern> ipv6?
[08:28] <stefg> Zyphern: this is just a guess, but maybe it helps
[08:28] <Zyphern> Alright I'll try it
[08:29] <evildrummer> 'couldnt find package' for 'apt-get install desktop'
[08:29] <mnoir> Zyphern: that is unlikely to be your issue
[08:29] <EnsignRedshirt> Zyphern: Is the router the DHCP server for the other computers on your network?  Or do they have static IPs?
[08:30] <Zyphern> I am with cogeco, it is technically a dynamic IP However I am always assigned a certain one
[08:30] <Zyphern> and I think it is the DHCP server, seeing as it says
[08:30] <Zyphern> DHCP Status: REady
[08:30] <Zyphern> on my router status screen
[08:30] <mnoir> Zyphern: could you diagram your local network?
[08:30] <evildrummer> when I try 'apt-get install gnome' the whole error is: 'Package gnome is not available, but is referred to by another package, This may mean the package is missing or etc etc etc
[08:30] <evildrummer> any ideas?
[08:30] <newbuntu> Heres a basic question I have a pc on ubuntu and a laptop on ubuntu, I have one LAN cable, I want to move the files off the PC and over to the Laptop... what is the best method to do this , i tried ftp but I cant find each ip number using ifconfig, is there a good way to move the files from A to B ?
[08:30] <Zyphern> How would I do that mnoir?
[08:30] <EnsignRedshirt> Zyphern: Is your Ubuntu computer configured to use DHCP, or does it have a static IP address?
[08:31] <Zyphern> I haven't configured anything
[08:31] <mnoir> Zyphern: describe how all of your machines connect to the internet
[08:31] <stefg> evildrummer: obviously there's no simple 'gnome'-metapackage.. what are you trying to achhieve?
[08:31] <Zyphern> Okay, I have my SMC Barricade, I have three computers, all of the computers are plugged into the router, and the router is connected directly to the internet
[08:32] <robtp> newbuntu: open nautilus and select what you want to share, then share files in the right click context menu
[08:32] <mnoir> Zyphern: ok
[08:32] <mnoir> Zyphern: i know the barricade - used to use one
[08:32] <evildrummer> at stefg im just trying to get a desktop environment for my ubuntu srver
[08:32] <robtp> robtp: let me know how that goes, you may have to install some packgaes
[08:32] <newbuntu> robtp how do connect the computers  , via LAN cable ?
[08:32] <Zyphern> mnoir, awesome :)
[08:32] <mnoir> Zyphern: is the barricade enabled for dhcp?
[08:32] <jasin> hi
[08:33] <stefg> evildrummer: any desktop? or specifically gnome?
[08:33] <mwe> evildrummer: sudo aptitude install gnome works here. sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop will get some other stuff as well
[08:33] <rasman> Zyphern, sorry I dissapeared
[08:33] <Zyphern> mnoir, it indicates it is here: http://home.cogeco.ca/~justin.vanderheide/status.PNG
[08:33] <evildrummer> just trying to get a desktop
[08:33] <CaptSmokey6> !nvidia
[08:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:33] <robtp> newbuntu: can you connect both of them to the internet, say via a router?
[08:33] <Zyphern> that's okay Raskall
[08:33] <jasin> my touchpad quit
[08:33] <Zyphern> rasman rather
[08:33] <newbuntu> I wish .. but I only have one LAN cable
[08:33] <robtp> newbuntu: you cant connect a cat5 cable from one to the other and be able to transfer anything unless its a special kind of cable
[08:33] <mwe> evildrummer: and I suggested two possibilities ;)
[08:34] <RickyRay> does linux come with a firewall turned on?
[08:34] <mnoir> Zyphern: that is the display from barricade?
[08:34] <evildrummer> ok
[08:34] <RickyRay> i mean ubuntu
[08:34] <rasman> Zyphern, did you uninstall the dhcpd application?
[08:34] <newbuntu> okay i get it
[08:34] <robtp> RickyRay: no, but you can install one
[08:34] <Zyphern> mnoir: that is the status screen
[08:34] <RickyRay> ahh, nah i got a router anyhow
[08:34] <Zyphern> rasman: I have not uninstalled anything
[08:34] <robtp> RickyRay: its not really necessary though
[08:34] <newbuntu> I just need another LAN cable to use the router
[08:34] <jasin> Ricky, it comes with iptables, its built into the kernel.
[08:34] <I-kido> Hi there, Disk1: sda1 sda2 sda3,  do I need to make the same partiotions with same size on Disk2 for RAID-0 ?
[08:34] <mnoir> Zyphern: is dhcpd running on your ubuntu now?
[08:35] <jasin> Ricky, it snot really all that configured .. you have to do that yourself.
[08:35] <RickyRay> what language is linux written in?
[08:35] <mwe> c
[08:35] <newbuntu> hebrew
[08:35] <rasman> Zyphern, right now you have  ubuntu and your router acting as competing dhcp servers.  You can temporarily disable dhcpd with a 'sudo /etc/init.d/dhcpd stop'
[08:35] <RickyRay> c++?
[08:35] <mwe> no
[08:35] <mwe> c
[08:35] <PRAEDO> how can i have the same bash as with root?
[08:35] <jasin> rick, many, c,c++
[08:35] <newbuntu> finnish actually
[08:35] <apokryphos> Ancient Greek
[08:35] <PRAEDO> and if i'm root i can use back key
[08:35] <Trinitrogen> I just installed Ubuntu yesterday, along with the Nvidia drivers for my 6600GT, and Beryl, and all was working but I couldn't get the resolution didn't go as high as I wanted (1280x1024), so I read some guides that suggested sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and restarted, but now when I log in the screen goes black and kicks me back to the log in
[08:35] <Zyphern> rasman, will that fix it?
[08:35] <RickyRay> what about c #?
[08:35] <mwe> the linux kernel is C
[08:35] <daedra> lol hebrew/greek
[08:35] <apokryphos> and a little bit of javascript
[08:35] <mwe> RickyRay: that for windows crap
[08:35] <newbuntu> conratulations Trin
[08:36] <Trinitrogen> newbuntu: Now I just need to get my resolution right :)
[08:36] <evildrummer> mwe: I tried the first thing you suggested but it didnt work and the second command is still running
[08:36] <rasman> Zyphern, eventually you will need to uninstall it from ubuntu.  if you run the last command, you will stop it until the next time ubuntu restarts
[08:36] <Trinitrogen> that 1024x768 just wont do
[08:36] <mwe> evildrummer: yeah
[08:36] <mnoir> Zyphern: i am giving up - you cannot listen to two ppl at the same time
[08:36] <craig__> can anybody access http://www.ralinktech.com
[08:36] <mwe> evildrummer: it will probably take a while to install
[08:36] <rasman> Zyphern, the command to uninstall dhcpd is 'sudo apt-get uninstall dhcpd'
[08:36] <Zyphern> mnoir, okay, thanks for your help though mnoir
[08:36] <mwe> evildrummer: are you running the latest ubuntu version?
[08:36] <mwe> !info gnome
[08:36] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 44 kB
[08:37] <lufis> Trinitrogen: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg , it will reset the xorg.conf file
[08:37] <evildrummer> mwe: no 6.06
[08:37] <rasman> mnoir, sorry, I didn't mean to step on your toes
[08:37] <Zyphern> Okay, thanks everyone I have 2 new things I will try
[08:37] <I-kido> http://www.ralinktech.com  is dead...
[08:37] <mwe> evildrummer: it probably didn't work because you have not enabled universe
[08:37] <Trinitrogen> lufis: will that fix my resolution problem too, or just load the saved conf back in
[08:37] <jasin> rick, the linux kernel, the heart of linux, is written in c, c++, and machine.
[08:37] <evildrummer> mwe: What would you suggest? I have the 6.06 server disk and thats it
[08:38] <mwe> !universe | evildrummer
[08:38] <ubotu> evildrummer: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:38] <lufis> Trinitrogen: Well, if x isn't working at all, it will at least let you use the gui
[08:38] <rasman> Zyphern, you will also have to make sure that your /etc/network/interfaces file has a dhcp address defined instead of a static address
[08:38] <lufis> Trinitrogen: i doubt it will fix the issue though
[08:38] <daedra> I-kide: try http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/
[08:38] <mwe> evildrummer: the page ubotu suggested explains how to enable universe. go ahead and do that
[08:38] <dnite> does anyone know of a (perferablly free) program that can recover a recently deleted file in ubuntu edgy??
[08:38] <daedra> I-kido: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/
[08:38] <Trinitrogen> lufis, thanks I know how to bring it back, just trying to fix my resolution problems
[08:38] <lufis> Trinitrogen: ah, sorry
[08:38] <I-kido> daedra tnx
[08:38] <Trinitrogen> thanks though
[08:38] <stefg> !fixres
[08:38] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:38] <xtknight> dnite: apt-cache search undelete ; apt-cache search recover
[08:39] <Zyphern> rasman, How can I ensure that?
[08:39] <mwe> evildrummer: ubuntu-desktop is fine. just let it install but you will probably want to enable universe anyway
[08:39] <dnite> xtknight, thanks
[08:39] <daedra> why isn't universe enabled by default?
[08:39] <evildrummer> mwe: Which page link was that?
[08:39] <stefg> daedra: politics!
[08:40] <mwe> !universe | evildrummer
[08:40] <ubotu> evildrummer: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:40] <xtknight> daedra: it's not officially supported by ubuntu
[08:40] <EnsignRedshirt> Zyphern: I'm running breezy, so it might not be the same on your computer, but I would use System->Administration->Networking
[08:40] <Zyphern> ohh okay
[08:40] <rasman> Zyphern, run 'sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces' and verify that you have a 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'
[08:40] <Zyphern> I;ve gone in there before
[08:40] <jasin> Linux is written in that version of the C programming language which is supported by GCC (which has introduced a number of extensions and changes to standard C), together with a number of short sections of code written in the assembly language (in GCC's "AT&T-style" syntax) of the target architecture. Because of the extensions to C it supports, GCC was for a long time the only compiler capable of correctly building Linux.
[08:40] <stefg> Zyphern: post your pastebin link again
[08:40] <knoppix> hello, im trying to install grub on the mbr, but he cant read stage1 correctly, what is the problem there? http://rafb.net/p/YB6Hz186.html
[08:40] <daedra> don't want to get 'official' with linux...
[08:41] <EnsignRedshirt> Zyphern: In the window that pops up, I select the Ethernet connection, and click on Properties.
[08:41] <daedra> but I see ubuntu as an all good thing :)
[08:41] <juliosaucedo> what is the command for add users?
[08:41] <Zyphern>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/264/
[08:41] <stefg> !bash | juliosaucedo
[08:41] <ubotu> juliosaucedo: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:41] <knoppix> juliosaucedo: useradd
[08:41] <IdleOne> juliosaucedo: useradd
[08:41] <xtknight> daedra: mainly because Canonical can't support it, i guess
[08:41] <jasin> ubuntu is for all
[08:41] <I-kido> Disk1: sda1 sda2 sda3,  do I need to make the same partiotions with same size on Disk2 for RAID-0 ?
[08:41] <mwe> jasin: I think other compilers can build the kernel as well. at some
[08:41] <craig__> can anybody access http://www.ralinktech.com
[08:41] <mnoir> juliosaucedo: adduser but there is a gui for it that is much easier
[08:42] <Jowi> juliosaucedo, "sudo adduser usernameyouwanttoadd"
[08:42] <daedra> craig__: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/
[08:42] <evildrummer> how can I edit "/etc/apt/sources.list" with the command prompt server
[08:42] <jasin> mwe, yes, they can, but the kernel is written for gcc.
[08:42] <daedra> craig__: seriously, I have tried to compile the official ralink linux drivers, and http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/ are way better
[08:42] <Tron_> anyone know how i can use  linux-image-k7 instead of the default
[08:42] <brian123456> how can i figure out what driver ubuntu is using for my wireless adapter?
[08:42] <Tron_> i installed it but its not booting with it
[08:42] <w3ccv> I-kido, I think not, raid 0 concateates disks.  you will just be making one larger.
[08:42] <mwe> brian123456: lsmod might help
[08:42] <evildrummer> how can I edit "/etc/apt/sources.list" with the command prompt server
[08:42] <Zyphern> get the link stef?
[08:43] <craig__> daedra: I do not need the drivers, they are built into 6.06 for rt61, but I need the firmware
[08:43] <stefg> Tron_: don't worry, you won't gain anything by that
[08:43] <juliosaucedo> Jowi: and if the useriwanttoadd is Administrator? and want to assign the user id?
[08:43] <w3ccv> I-kido, Raid 1 is mirroring - mirrors can only be as large as the smallest one.
[08:43] <Tron_> ?
[08:43] <Zaggynl> evildrummer, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:43] <EnsignRedshirt> evildrummer: If you really need to edit it by hand, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:43] <mwe> evildrummer: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list. back it up first though, in case you screw it up
[08:43] <Tron_> its using p3 optimizations
[08:43] <Tron_> and its sluggish
[08:43] <Tron_> i want to use the althlonxp stuff
[08:43] <sedra> hello how to install ATI driver on ubuntu?
[08:43] <I-kido> w3ccv, i got 2x80 gb
[08:43] <jasin> for speed use striping
[08:43] <craig__> daedra: I accessed the site before, but I just do a reinstall to try to clear out some java issues I was having, but I need the firmware to get my wireless back up
[08:43] <xtknight> !ati
[08:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:43] <mwe> !gksudo
[08:43] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[08:43] <mnoir> juliosaucedo: you may be happier with the gui user manager
[08:43] <w3ccv> I-kido, do you want 160GB or 80
[08:44] <EnsignRedshirt> evildrummer: If you are just trying to enable, say, universe or multiverse, you can do that with Synaptic.
[08:44] <Tron_> i dont see how it wouldnt help to use the kernel tuned for my processor instead of one thats outdated by 7-8 years
[08:44] <Jowi> juliosaucedo, adduser --uid idnumber nameofuser
[08:44] <I-kido> w3ccv i wanrt the fastest option :p
[08:44] <juliosaucedo> Sure I would, but is not working
[08:44] <mwe> EnsignRedshirt: but he doesn't have X running yet
[08:44] <Jowi> juliosaucedo, all options are in "man adduser"
[08:44] <daedra> craig__: site doesn't work for me then :(
[08:44] <craig__> daedra: hope its not down long
[08:44] <EnsignRedshirt> mwe, evildrummer: I see. Nevermind the comment about Synaptic.
[08:44] <jasin> RAID can increase performance in certain applications. RAID levels 0, and 5-6 all use variations on striping, which allows multiple spindles to increase sustained transfer rates when conducting linear transfers
[08:44] <craig__> guess I will work on java issues
[08:45] <I-kido> tnx jasin
[08:45] <craig__> after a fresh install, should I install all java packages, or do I just need jre or jvm
[08:45] <jasin> welcome
[08:45] <I-kido> tnx w3ccv
[08:45] <w3ccv> I-kido,  raid-0 will give you a possible 160GB disk with the 'data' spread out over both, if you loose one you might loose both.Raid 1 is mirroring, not as fast but you will have 80GB and if one does south you will be working off the other as a backup
[08:45] <mwe> craig__: jre for the runtime or jvm to get the compiler as well
[08:45] <mwe> !java
[08:45] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:46] <I-kido> w3ccv u recommend raid 1?
[08:46] <craig__> ok, thanks guys
[08:46] <Jowi> juliosaucedo, if you need the user to be able to function as an administrator he/she needs to be added to the admin group
[08:46] <IntuitiveNipple> RAID 1 is 'safer' because you have a 2 copies of your filesystem
[08:47] <I-kido> :) k tnx
[08:47] <stefg> Tron_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[08:47] <sedra> Multiverse! what's that?
[08:47] <IntuitiveNipple> if you have enough drives, RAID 1+0 gives safety and a modest performance boost
[08:47] <I-kido> tnx all....... laterz
[08:47] <mnoir> !multiverse | sedra
[08:47] <ubotu> sedra: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:47] <daedra> craig__: hmm ping www.ralinktech.com has strange behaviour..
[08:48] <jasin> Linux kernel raid10 is not nested
[08:48] <Jowi> juliosaucedo, you do this with "sudo adduser Administrator admin" to add user "Administrator" to the "admin" group
[08:48] <linuxnewbie756> whats the worst that could happen from using automatix?
[08:48] <mnoir> linuxnewbie756: ya screw up your system
[08:48] <linuxnewbie756> how bad?
[08:48] <IdleOne> !automatix | linuxnewbie756
[08:48] <ubotu> linuxnewbie756: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:48] <jasin> linuxnewbie, not much
[08:48] <craig__> I get a proxy error when I try to visit site, and I dont have a proxy
[08:48] <mwe> linuxnewbie756: that you screw up the system and have to reinstall
[08:49] <mnoir> linuxnewbie756: bad enough to require reinstall
[08:49] <daedra> craig__: don't worry I get the same error
[08:49] <shwouchk> hi
[08:49] <Tron_> stefg, interesting
[08:49] <IdleOne> linuxnewbie756: easy answer is dont use it
[08:49] <mnoir> linuxnewbie756: do you feel lucky? :)
[08:49] <linuxnewbie756> uh, i have installed ubuntu twice today, so i guess i am ok with that
[08:49] <sedra> !WorksForMe
[08:49] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:49] <craig__> daedra: thanks for checking for me
[08:49] <Jowi> need to go. cu all
[08:49] <IntuitiveNipple> dmraid supports RAID1+0 on supported controllers/metadata
[08:49] <Tron_> i wonder how i can optimize it a bit so its not so slugish then
[08:49] <jasin> linuxnewbie, their paranoid, I use automatix without any problems whatsoever.
[08:49] <shwouchk> how do I enable sites I put in /etc/apache/sites-available/?
[08:49] <linuxnewbie756> i have used it before, didn't notice it breaking anything, it seemed perfect
[08:49] <craig__> daedra: I think I will have to wait until they figure out the problem over there
[08:49] <mwe> linuxnewbie756: why not use easyubuntu instead?
[08:50] <Tron_> 2ghz with 1gb of ram shouldnt have screen lag i wouldnt think?
[08:50] <linuxnewbie756> is easyubuntu supposed to be better?
[08:50] <RickyRay> during install, what is LVM?
[08:50] <linuxnewbie756> or "safer"
[08:50] <sedra> Logical Volume Manager
[08:50] <Flannel> jasin: please don't recommend automatix here.
[08:50] <RickyRay> should i use none, lvm or lvm encrypted?
[08:50] <mwe> RickyRay: you don't need to worry about that if you don't know what it is
[08:50] <EnsignRedshirt> linuxnewbie756: Worst case: Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
[08:50] <jasin> Flannel, where did I do that? Please, do tell me.
[08:51] <linuxnewbie756> ok, and automatix is going to cause that?
[08:51] <IdleOne> jasin: when you said you use it without problems
[08:51] <mnoir> linuxnewbie756: every other way of installing is safer
[08:51] <jasin> Idle, that snot a recomendation.
[08:51] <juliosaucedo> thanks
[08:52] <jasin> Idle, thats my personal expierences with the product.
[08:52] <IdleOne> jasin: then it's a one in a milluion experience
[08:52] <IdleOne> million
[08:52] <jasin> Idle, so you say.
[08:52] <ctothej> Is there still a resolution limit for ATI cards with XGL/Compiz/Beryl ??
[08:52] <mnoir> linuxnewbie756: seriously, it has a bad rep.  In risk management you learn whether a risk is worth the reward.  in this case, most folks do not feel it is.
[08:52] <mwe> !worksforme
[08:52] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:53] <m1n1st3r> anywhere here have experience using the Web-based VMware Management Interface ?
[08:53] <m1n1st3r> er...anyone...
[08:54] <mwe> it doesn't seem so
[08:54] <IdleOne> jasin: seems to me you are hell bent on disrupting this channel and the new Ubuntu user by giving them bad opinions 973 other ppl in this room agree that automatix is not a good tool
[08:54] <jasin> Idle, you dont speak for every single person who's ever used automatix nor could you.
[08:54] <sedra> i agree :)
[08:54] <m1n1st3r> nwe: yeah, guess not, oh well, thx anyways
[08:54] <mwe> m1n1st3r: I haven't had the need
[08:54] <jasin> Idle, only one being a disruption is you.
[08:55] <jasin> Idle, so back off.
[08:55] <mwe> cool down guys ;)
[08:55] <IdleOne> jasin:  I speak from experience automatix has broken my system 1 time because I listened to someone like you and I have learned that I should probably listen to the people telling me to take the safe route rather then the automatix route
[08:55] <Flannel> jasin: we've seen plenty of people coming here with broken installs, having used automatix.
[08:55] <floppyears> hi
[08:55] <m1n1st3r> mwe: yeah pretty niche application, running stupid winblows 2k3 installs in a vm
[08:56] <floppyears> could somebody suggest me a fast good wm that has the blackbox feel to it, but is not as minimalistic ?
[08:56] <IdleOne> jas my name is IdleOne  not Idle
[08:56] <mad_tom> i found that installing java prior to anything with automatix fixes any problem
[08:56] <EnsignRedshirt> Whatever tool you use, it is best to know what it does, and how to undo whatever it does.  The "undo" part is important.
[08:56] <IdleOne> oops I meant jasin
[08:56] <rtking> wow
[08:56] <IdleOne> mwe:  np
[08:56] <mwe> floppyears: I like fluxbox. that is minmalistic but can be made as bloated as you like ;)
[08:57] <jasin> Flannel, i'm sure you do, but some stupid script that's just merely an interface for apt-get is hardly going to take down someone's system.
[08:57] <linuxnewbie756> personally, i have used it twice, it seemed ok, but i ended up reinstalling for other reasons, so i don't know whether it would have eventually needed reinstalling anyway because of automatix. the idea is good, if automatix doesn't work safely enough, someone should make a "safe" program like it
[08:57] <mad_tom> even using the java installer in automatix works, you just have to restart and let it become a broken package, then finish the install (usually involving clicking accept on its TOS)
[08:57] <mnoir> mwe - howzit compae to my fave bloat - KDE?
[08:57] <mnoir> compare i mean
[08:57] <floppyears> mwe: hmm, I think I once tried fluxbox, is it a wm that has a huge man page making it almost unreadable ?
[08:57] <mag_> hey... do you know how to do a data server ?
[08:57] <mwe> mnoir: different ;)
[08:57] <mad_tom> in other news...
[08:57] <Flannel> jasin: it's not an interface for apt-get, and it does take down systems.  However, this is offtopic, if you'd like to continue to discuss this, we can do it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:57] <jewbilee> Hi, I accidently hid the menu bar in amaroK's playlist window, does anyone know how to bring it back?
[08:57] <mnoir> mwe - so am i but i meant can you give it as much eye candy?
[08:58] <mad_tom> my spaeakers are really really static and i cant fathom why, any takers?
[08:58] <mwe> mnoir: not quite but close
[08:58] <mnoir> mwe - izzit as stable?
[08:58] <mad_tom> *speakers
[08:58] <jasin> Flannel, like I told idle, so you say.
[08:58] <linuxnewbie756> jewbilee, what version of amarok are you using?
[08:58] <mwe> mnoir: if you put some work into it
[08:58] <EnsignRedshirt> jewbilee: Someone here might know, but you could also try asking in #kubuntu.
[08:58] <mnoir> mwe - ic
[08:58] <mwe> mnoir: it's plenty stable
[08:58] <phr34ck> what can I do with .bin files?
[08:58] <rasman> mad_tom, what power cables are close to your speakers or wires to your speakers
[08:58] <jewbilee> linuxnewbie: not sure, i believe the newest one
[08:58] <rtking> is channel discussion usually this red?
[08:58] <jasin> Flannel, and yes it is, it modifies sources.lst
[08:58] <phr34ck> I downloaded Java 1.5, and it's .bin file.
[08:58] <mwe> mnoir: I use it on low spec machines
[08:58] <mad_tom> tons...let me relocate them
[08:59] <Flannel> jasin: I could care less if you continue to use it.  But do NOT recommend it here.
[08:59] <IdleOne> phr34ck: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[08:59] <mag_> si ta bueno
[08:59] <mag_> 13:03 < Rainbyte> mag, fijate aqui
[08:59] <mag_> 13:04 < si ta bueno
[08:59] <mag_> 13:03 < Rainbyte> mag, fijate aqui
[08:59] <mag_> 13:04 <  -!- tam<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[08:59] <mag_> 13:04 < mag_> si ta bueno
[08:59] <mag_> 13:04 < mag_> 13:03 < Rainbyte> mag, fijate aqui
[08:59] <mnoir> mwe: i have a different goal - i cannot give up some kde apps but want a different base
[08:59] <phr34ck> IdleOne,  but I have it, why do I need to do that?
[08:59] <rasman> phr34ck,  Make sure you trust the source of the *.bin file!  Otherwise: 'chmod +x file.bin' to make it executable and then './file.bin'
[08:59] <stefg> mad_tom: do google search for 'ground loop'
[08:59] <linuxnewbie756> when you started up amarok, the splash screen, was it all blue or was it a little guy with headphones?
[08:59] <tam> not very ubuntu specific but, can anyone tell me if theres a good firefox form password saver?
[08:59] <phr34ck> How can I execute the .bin file?
[08:59] <tam> ./file.bin
[09:00] <RickyRay> is it normal for the 700mb image of ubuntu to take extra long to burn?  almost 13 minutes now :S
[09:00] <IdleOne> phr34ck: you trying to install java right? or I missed something you said
[09:00] <mwe> mnoir: yeah. you can run kde apps in fluxbox if you like
[09:00] <RickyRay> usually 700mb discs only take 9 mins max
[09:00] <phr34ck> tam, firefox has a built in feature to save  your passwords.
[09:00] <mnoir> mwe - yep...
[09:00] <jewbilee> linuxnewbie: yes
[09:00] <phr34ck> no, I said I have a .bin file ... what should I do with it?
[09:00] <mad_tom> no dice, still static
[09:00] <phr34ck> What's the use of .bin files?
[09:00] <mwe> mnoir: I don't think KDE _has_ to be bloated though. it can be made sane I think
[09:00] <tam> phr34ck: i don't like it though, i'm just trying to see if theres any other external plugins that i might like better
[09:00] <mad_tom> they worked once, during the first install ever
[09:00] <mad_tom> when i was installing it, running from cd
[09:00] <k0> hmmm amarok seems to loader slower for sum reason
[09:01] <k0> anyone notice this too
[09:01] <rasman> phr34ck, it is similar to function of an *.exe file in windows.
[09:01] <mnoir> mwe - maybe - i do not usually do the work as it is just disk space anyhow and i have plenty
[09:01] <phr34ck> tam, Google what you need. I'm sure you'll find plenty.
[09:01] <jewbilee> i need the menu bar from amarok >.< can anyone help me bring it back lol
[09:01] <phr34ck> so I just double click it?
[09:01] <tam> phr34ck: true, was really only after suggestions. cheers anyway
[09:01] <logivision> I'm looking to use PC Anywhere on my Ubuntu machine but it doesn't support it, it only supports SuSe and Red Hat, is there a way to make it work on Ubuntu Anyways ?
[09:01] <mwe> mnoir: I like the fact that every part of KDE is easily customized
[09:01] <rtking> is channel discussion usually this (red) upsetting??
[09:01] <mnoir> mwe - :)
[09:01] <k0> hmmm amarok is faster when used under xgl
[09:01] <phr34ck> Google is your best friend =)
[09:01] <mnoir> mwe - the component nature is very well thought out as well
[09:02] <mad_tom> BTW, im using an audigy gamer card
[09:02] <mwe> mnoir: yeah
[09:02] <Flannel> rtking: almost never, but occassionally we get people in here who feel they know more than everyone else, and are stubborn about it.  We don't appreciate people giving out bad information.
[09:02] <k0> and alot slower when used with the metacity manager
[09:02] <mnoir> rtking: no
[09:02] <Trinitrogen> how can I get to a pure terminal?
[09:02] <stefg> logivision: any particular reason to not use VNC ?
[09:02] <mnoir> that was an unusual blast
[09:02] <hjmills> mnoir: i dont like the fact that when one bit doesnt work - the whole system is b0rked
[09:02] <Flannel> Trinitrogen: ctrl-alt-f1 (f1-f6 is a terminal, f7 beings you back to your GUI)
[09:02] <rasman> logivisionk, you could try to use alien to convert the rpm to deb but it probably won't work with the ubuntu kernel because ours is usually newer than the those other 2 distro's
[09:02] <logivision> stefg: No, I'm just looking to use a program that doesn't require the client to accept a connection
[09:03] <KenSentMe> I want to file a bug. What package is behind System - Preferences - Sound?
[09:03] <elyon> Could someone please tell me what I should use to repartition my Windows disk (to get more space for Linux)?
[09:03] <rtking> ok thanks (see i am an internet tech and i really HEAR my share of it lol
[09:03] <flo> !pastebin
[09:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:03] <mwe> elyon: gparted
[09:03] <rasman> logivision, you might also want to look at nomachine and freenx for an RDP type service for Linux
[09:03] <linuxnewbie756> i have never had luck with alien, just hope one day they give us a deb
[09:03] <stefg> logivision: although i don't fully understand it might be helpful to look at vino
[09:03] <mnoir> hjmills: reminds me of my first boss who wouldnt install dual density disk drives on the theory ya would lose 2x in a disk crash :)
[09:03] <elyon> mwe - is that a GUI interface?  If not, is there a GUI alternative?
[09:03] <stefg> !vino
[09:03] <ubotu> vino: VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 173 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[09:04] <mwe> elyezer: it is GUI
[09:04] <elyon> mwe - thank you.
[09:04] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon: I have heard good things about Partition Magic.
[09:04] <mwe> elyezer: you won't find anything easier for linux
[09:04] <mad_tom> is there another channel i can go to that deals perticularly with sound adn its devices?
[09:04] <elyon> EnsignRedshirt - that's what I've used for Windows... didn't know they had a Linux version.
[09:04] <IdleOne> elyon: backup windows before you resize
[09:04] <mnoir> rtking: also the ops are very strict here
[09:04] <xtknight> elyon: gparted should be able to resize ntfs
[09:04] <rasman> linuxnewbie756, alien works when the binaries would work.  I have always gotten a deb but usually the deb doesn't do what I want it to do :)
[09:04] <elyon> IdleOne - Windows is basically my backup partition now ;)
[09:04] <hjmills> mnoir: lol - i also generally prefer gnome - otherwise i would probably learn how to fix it - it just seems to break more than gnome does but that may just be me
[09:04] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon: I was thinking you could resize in windows :)
[09:04] <xtknight> elyon: but ntfs resizing isnt perfectly reliable so backup anything important
[09:05] <elyon> IdleOne - I don't see any reason to use it anymore.
[09:05] <IdleOne> elyon: :)
[09:05] <logivision> stefg: I need a program that I can connect to computers to remote desktop. The clients that I will be connecting to don't have the ability to accept the incoming connection. So I need to be able to install the program, and set permissions so when I try to connect to them, it automatically loads up without requiring them to "Accept" the incoming connection.
[09:05] <linuxnewbie756> what is that program for edeting the data in mp3's called (it is used to change trackname/artist/so on)
[09:05] <mnoir> hjmills: i run gnome on my wife's desktop an my support machine but i like the menuing and slaves too well in kde to give them up
[09:05] <elyon> IdleOne - yeah, I had always heard its a good idea to keep it around for things Linux can't handle... just haven't found such a thing yet ;)
[09:05] <KenSentMe> I've set System - Preferences - Sound and then Music and movies to use my second sound device. I tested it, and it worked. How come that not even totem uses it when i play a video?
[09:05] <mad_tom> soo...no?
[09:06] <elyon> IdleOne - of course, I've only been using Linux full-time for a week now.
[09:06] <xtknight> linuxnewbie756: well, that is called the ID3 tag but i dont know of any apps off the top of my head
[09:06] <madman2> linux.
[09:06] <mnoir> madman2: good point
[09:06] <IdleOne> elyon: always a good idea to make a backup just in case
[09:06] <elyon> IdleOne - understood.
[09:06] <stefg> logivision: i don't get you, but teh vncviewer for win is a tiny dinary, which doesn't even need to be installed
[09:06] <rasman> logivision, does this need to reverse a tunnel over NAT?
[09:06] <tonyKUN> I need help, again
[09:06] <Trinitrogen> Im doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg right now to try and get my resolution up to 1280x1024 on my GF 6600GT and Dell 1740FPT monitor, shoulw I say yes to using the kernel framebuffer device interface?
[09:07] <welly> hi all, i'm trying to tighten up the security on my VPS web server.. i've got it all working as I want (it's running ubuntu 6.06 with apache 2.2.3) however I seem to be doing tasks using the root user, which i understand isn't ideal
[09:07] <mnoir> stefg: how do you run w/o installing?
[09:07] <RickyRay> the ubuntu installer asked me if it was going to scan the mirror, i said yes. now for 14 minutes it's been sitting there
[09:07] <tonyKUN> when installing ubuntu, it asks for mount points and paritions i dont know what to do there
[09:07] <elyon> IdleOne - but in that case... what burner software would you recommend?
[09:07] <RickyRay> 20%, then 40%, now 60%
[09:07] <logivision> Rasman: I'm not sure what that means, this is my second day using Linux
[09:07] <welly> essentially I've got apache and subversion running on it (not interested in anything else on this server)
[09:07] <mnoir> welly: well stop it and use sudo... :)
[09:07] <rasman> Trinitrogen, use the default for framebuffer.  It is usually only necessary for oddball devices
[09:07] <welly> mnoir, well ideally i won't need to ssh into it that often
[09:08] <Flannel> welly: what are you doing as root?
[09:08] <elyon> tonyKUN - that's the very important part that you don't want to mess up.  Do you have a Windows install that you don't want to lose?
[09:08] <Trinitrogen> rasman thanks
[09:08] <linuxnewbie756> if it edits id3 tags, will it work on mp4's
[09:08] <welly> Flannel, basically editing apache conf files
[09:08] <mnoir> welly: i even dont allow root ssh  :)
[09:08] <rasman> logivision, will you have the ability to open ports to the machines like port 22?
[09:08] <welly> mnoir, oh ok :)
[09:08] <mad_tom> so i seemed to have reduced some static with ALSA, but there is still alot of unwanted noise. how can i eliminate it?
[09:08] <Shin_Gouki> hi anyone here who can help me with installing ubuntu 6.10 on a USB Harddisk?
[09:08] <tonyKUN> well i made a ext3 partition for the ubuntu already
[09:08] <welly> oh yeah, i have mysql 5 on it too
[09:08] <IdleOne> elyon: gnomebaker in ubuntu is good also K3B and a few others might be able to recommend something. in windows I use nero
[09:08] <Flannel> welly: oh, that's fine.  Are you actually running as root? or just sudoing for the editor one at a time?
[09:08] <welly> Flannel, have sshed in as root
[09:08] <joss> can someone help a newbie?
[09:08] <welly> Flannel, i suppose it's more about permissions
[09:08] <mnoir> welly: i come from the days when ya telnet in as yourself and su to root - even that is wildly unsecure :)
[09:09] <elyon> tonyKUN - okay.  You need to create a swap partition for Linux too (ext3, you'll select it for Swap later)
[09:09] <rasman> logivision, next question; do you need the ability to work on the desktop for extended periods of time or just a quick gui from time to time
[09:09] <logivision> Rasman: ALl i need to be able to do is remotely connect to a pc, and be able to control their desktop. The only other requirment is that the computer i'm connecting to doesn't require ANY user activity
[09:09] <tonyKUN> does it matter if i make the partition off a slave harddrive?
[09:09] <Flannel> welly: oh.  Er, disable root, then defintaely disable remote root logins.  SSH in as yourself, then use sudo to get permissions
[09:09] <joss> how do i delete a file on a windows partition? it seems to be read only
[09:09] <elyon> IdleOne - and gnomebaker does everything?  Images, data, music, etc?
[09:09] <welly> ok i'll do that then, that's a start!
[09:09] <IdleOne> elyon: yes
[09:09] <Flannel> !fuse | joss
[09:09] <ubotu> joss: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:09] <mnoir> Flannel: that is the correct way!
[09:09] <logivision> Rasman: it depends. what happens is if somebody calls me and has a problem, i need to be able to connect to 1) see what they are doing and 2) fix it if i can
[09:09] <elyon> tonyKUN - it shouldn't, but some of the more experienced people here may be able to answer that better for you.
[09:10] <logivision> Rasman: I can be connected at times from anything from 1 minute to 2 hours
[09:10] <rasman> logivision, will you need to share the screen with a user on the other end?
[09:10] <mad_tom> at least tell me i am not being ignored...
[09:10] <elyon> tonyKUN - I know with Windows its better to have the swap file on a completely seperate hard disk.  not sure if the same applies for Linux.
[09:10] <Flannel> welly: you want to use passwd -l (lower case L) to lock the root account
[09:10] <EnsignRedshirt> joss: I think the short, safe answer is: you don't.
[09:10] <joss> huh?
[09:10] <logivision> Rasman: No, I just need to see theirs.
[09:10] <joss> it's just a file
[09:11] <joss> will that mess things up?
[09:11] <logivision> Rasman: I also need to be able to move the mouse, and use the keyboard. File transfer would be nice but not necessary by any means.
[09:11] <tonyKUN> i have windows right now
[09:11] <cavediver> Is there an easy way to install a Ubuntu live-cd onto a USB-stick =
[09:11] <Flannel> joss: not necessarily, but NTFS writing (that includes deleting) is still in beta state
[09:11] <elyon> Joss - if you've determined its absolutely okay to delete the file, right-click on it and select "Properties"  Then, choose "Permissions" and remove the tick from "Read ONly"
[09:11] <joss> okay
[09:11] <joss> well
[09:12] <soon> Lend me some advice: I want to automatically create a backup of my USB memory stick every time I plug it in ... in general terms how would I do this? BASH script, cron task, or some other thing?
[09:12] <elyon> joss - but trust Flannel too :P  He knows a lot more than me.
[09:12] <joss> i thought i might be able do delete some nasty windows shit
[09:12] <mad_tom> ugh
[09:12] <EnsignRedshirt> joss: Is the windows file system NTFS?
[09:12] <joss> anyway, thanks
[09:12] <rasman> logivision, the easiest way would be to use Gnome's VNC server: System --> Preferences --> Remote Desktop
[09:12] <joss> it is
[09:12] <ar2k7> hey how do you change wallpaper on top of the beryl cube thingy?
[09:12] <tonyKUN> elyon - so make a swap off a separate harddrive (my slave) and set it as swap, but what do i set my partition to install linux to?
[09:12] <rasman> logivision, make sure that you set the password and don't require confirmation
[09:12] <elyon> ar2k7 - is that the technical term? ;)
[09:12] <PSIplus> EnsignRedshirt: NTFS == New Technology File System, the FS found in Windows NT (Windows 2000, XP, Vista, ...)
[09:12] <logivision> Rasman: Is there any way to make this program automatically run on the clients end when the computer turns on?
[09:13] <PSIplus> EnsignRedshirt: I recommend to use ntfs-3g driver
[09:13] <ar2k7> elyon, is that the technical answer ;)
[09:13] <mnoir> joss: make sure you back up the whole ntfs partition prior unless you do not mind losing things which might happen
[09:13] <amonkey> i'm using ssh to log on to my edgy box, and i'd like gnome to start azureus so that i can close the ssh session and it won't quit. It crashed and I want to start it up again.
[09:13] <ctothej> How do I pipe the output of a command into a text file?
[09:13] <rasman> logivision, before or after their account is created?
[09:13] <elyon> tonyKUN - your partition for the actual Linux install is whichever partition you made for Ubuntu (non-swap)
[09:13] <EnsignRedshirt> joss: My knowledge might be out of date here, but in the not-too-distant past, Linux didn't handle writing or deleteing files in NTFS.
[09:13] <joss> nothing important on that partition, but thanks anyway
[09:13] <logivision> Rasman: After. I'll be building the PC here, installing linux, creating the user and installing the software, then sending the PC to the client
[09:14] <Flannel> logivision: check out the OEM installation
[09:14] <tonyKUN> elyon - what do i put the mount point as? "/", "/boot", "/user", etc
[09:14] <elyon> Another question for the gurus - when I setup a server (simple web server) in Linux, will it be running even when no one is logged in?
[09:14] <aoupi> ctothej:  command > file.txt or command >> file.txt to ad at end of file
[09:14] <Flannel> elyon: yep
[09:14] <logivision> Flannel: Not sure what that is.... This is my second day using Linux
[09:14] <hassan2a> hello all
[09:14] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon: Yes.
[09:14] <ctothej> aoupi: thanks
[09:15] <elyon> tonyKUN - I could be wrong here, but I used "/" and haven't had any problems.
[09:15] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon: (not that I am a guru :)
[09:15] <sharperguy> when i scan my amarok collection it tells me theirs a problem with taglib and i should replac ot
[09:15] <elyon> tonyKUN - I believe that using "/user" will store all the user home directory info on that partition.
[09:15] <tonyKUN> elyon - what would happen if it is wrong
[09:15] <sharperguy> when i scan my amarok collection it tells me there's a problem with taglib and i should replace it, how do i do this?
[09:15] <amonkey> how can i use ssh to start azureus on my desktop without having it close when i close my terminal?
[09:15] <mnoir> no - /home is where user things are
[09:15] <Trinitrogen> okay I just reconfigured xorg, and added the resolution that I want, and when I try and change to it, the screen gets kinda garbled. I can see my desktop in the top right corner (its presumabley 1024x768 pixels wide) but the area outside that is a garbled mess of the desktop. I try to click the return to previous resolution button, but my mouse cursor doesn't seem to be pointing where the computer registers Im click (if that m
[09:15] <logivision> Rasman: Also, is there a way to make a certain account automatically logon when the computer turns on ?
[09:15] <Flannel> logivision: OEM install lets you do all your tweaking, installing, etc, then run a command, and on next startup of the computer, it'll ask  (presumably the real owner) for the final setup steps (timezone, username, password, etc), and delete the temporary OEM user
[09:15] <rasman> logivision, this should work.  I would also look into x11vnc
[09:16] <elyon> mnoir - I was referring to the Ubuntu install when it is setting up partitions.
[09:16] <elyon> tonyKUN - well, honestly... things could go very wrong :P
[09:16] <mnoir> elyon: so am i
[09:16] <elyon> mnoir - Then I stand corrected :)
[09:16] <mnoir> :)
[09:16] <Gosha> is there anything like 'fruity loops' for linux/ubuntu?
[09:16] <jasin> lol
[09:16] <rasman> logivision, go to System --> Admin --> Login Window and set up an autologon account either by time (ie. 10 seconds) or everytime
[09:17] <flugheim> hi i have a problem, i cant login with gdm, it just goes to the loginscreen when i try to login.. I can login to the computer using recovery mode (shell)..
[09:17] <mnoir> elyon: you should try my eggs - when the fox doesn't get the chickens...
[09:17] <Riyonuk> Can someone tell me what that program is that shows the firefox browsers on the desktop? http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=193852672444a4ccd0d0a84&m=screen
[09:17] <Flannel> flugheim: can you login using safe mode? (it's an option under sessions, at GDM)
[09:17] <borg> how come when i install some GTK2.0 themes, the images of them dont register and the theme failes to render them?
[09:17] <flugheim> anyone who knows how to fix this?
[09:17] <tonyKUN> elyon - well this makes me feel at ease
[09:18] <flugheim> Flannel: no, it wont work
[09:18] <flugheim> no modes works
[09:18] <rasman> logivision, also make sure that you get ssh access to the computers.  That way you can modify the remote settings.
[09:18] <elyon> One more question, which Rasman reminded me about just now.  How would I go about setting up my login screen to present a list of user names to choose from (similar to WinXP)?  This is for my less-literate family members that I've forced into using Linux.
[09:18] <welly> how do i stop the root user from sshing in?
[09:18] <Flannel> logivision: see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/OEMInstaller but moreso https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview for an overview of what they do
[09:18] <dragon> elyon: xdm does that
[09:18] <elyon> tonyKUN - You asked... I answered to the best of my ability.  I used "/" without problems :)
[09:18] <ctothej> What is the difference between overlay types Xv and opengl for ATI cards?
[09:18] <Alpha1> hi
[09:18] <mnoir> welly: you need to alter /etc/ssh/sshd config
[09:19] <welly> mnoir, ok thanks!
[09:19] <rasman> elyon, Choose the Happy Gnome with browser login theme
[09:19] <mnoir> that is not exact file name
[09:19] <tonyKUN> elyon - should the partitions be logical or primary?
[09:19] <elyon> tonyKUN - primary.
[09:19] <logivision> Rasman: How do i get Remote Desktop to automatically start up with the computer ?
[09:19] <tonyKUN> both?
[09:19] <jojoman02> what is the best tutorial for installing on a macbook?
[09:19] <linuxnewbie756> does anyone know how to install amarok VERSION 1.4.3 on dapper?
[09:19] <Alpha1> I'm running gnome - and when I try to use kflickr to auth against the flickr website, it opens the html in bluefish instead of firefox (f-spot opens the site in firefox though) - any ideas?
[09:19] <mnoir> welly: and restart after modding
[09:19] <elyon> rasman - I've been looking for different themes for Gnome and haven't had much luck...
[09:19] <logivision> Rasman: What is this SSHU Acces you speak of!
[09:19] <mnoir> restart sshd
[09:19] <Alpha1> is there some weird kde association with bluefish?
[09:19] <flugheim> Flannel: anymore ideas?
[09:19] <rasman> flugheim, do you have space still on your hard drive?
[09:20] <amonkey> how can i tell a command to start on a different desktop? the --???=:0 thing,
[09:20] <flugheim> nope
[09:20] <aristoteles> is there someone here who owns the gatewatch 2 fancontroller
[09:20] <aristoteles> ?
[09:20] <flugheim> it is full
[09:20] <Gosha> !audio
[09:20] <marshall> linuxnewbie756, sudo apt-get install amarok
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <flugheim> Flannel: thanks
[09:20] <RickyRay> why does my installation of ubuntu freeze when i press enter on the install/run ubuntu when i boot from the cd
[09:20] <xst> I've just bought a new monitor that cannot handle the same display settings as my old monitor. How do I make (k)ubuntu re-probe my monitor and configure X accordingly?
[09:20] <rasman> logivision, ssh or openssh.  It is an encrypted command line method that gives you the keys to the kingdom
[09:20] <mnoir> Alpha1: when you installed bluefish it added itself as the primary app
[09:20] <lufis> xst: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:20] <RickyRay> a little tiny little small green streak appears underneath the slider bar when it freezes
 I need to give user 'alex' read permissions to that location using the command line
[09:21] <linuxnewbie756> yes, but its weird, i have did this before "sudo apt-get install amarok", and it installs 1.4.3, but NOW,on a freshly installed system, it tries to install 1.3.9
[09:21] <elyon> RickyRay - sounds to me like a video problem...
[09:21] <flugheim> Flannel: i forgot that i had this problem once before.. :)
[09:21] <flugheim> bye
[09:21] <desp> Hi freinds
[09:21] <xst> lufis: Thanks! I'll give it a try
[09:21] <RickyRay> i'll try the video safe mode?
[09:21] <rasman> logivision, In fact, I would suggest that you encrypt your remote desktop sessions over it.  Otherwise any keystroke typed and video received will be transmitted in the clear
[09:21] <marshall> xst, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:21] <jewbilee> Can anyone tell me how to install a program that is .tar.gz-ed?
[09:21] <logivision> Rasman: Thank you. I'll look into it. But for a now, Is it possible to make this Remote Desktop automatically start when the user logs on?
[09:21] <marshall> xst, and you'll be pretty safe just accepting all the defaults it gives you
[09:21] <BigToe> this friend of mine has a file in /usr/local/lib and he wants to give user alex read permissions using the command line, how?
[09:21] <elyon> RickyRay - try that.  If that works, then there's your answer :)
[09:21] <mnoir> !build | jewbilee
[09:21] <ubotu> jewbilee: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:21] <lufis> xst: no prob... you'll need your new montor's specs
[09:21] <desp> I had a problem befor with installing ubuntu on USB-Hd on a laptop
[09:22] <tblaine> how do you remove GRUB from the system after uninstalling Linux?
[09:22] <tonyKUN> elyon - what kind of probelms can happen if mount point goes wrong?
[09:22] <logivision> Rasman: Also, Is it possiblle to login to it from a window's based machine? with TightVNC or something of the sort ?
[09:22] <desp> now I installd it and I need to make mountpoints plz
[09:22] <BigToe> this friend of mine has a file in /usr/local/lib and he wants to give user alex read permissions using the command line, how?
[09:22] <rasman> logivision, just enable it and make gnome automatically login with a user.
[09:22] <mnoir> jewbilee: or untar it and read the instructions
[09:22] <Alpha1> mnoir: that sucks
[09:22] <Alex> BigToe: stop repeating yourself.
[09:22] <elyon> tonyKUN - you could lose your ability to boot your computer.  You will still be able to use the Ubuntu Live CD to boot and try to fix the problem.
[09:22] <rasman> logivision, yup.  I like tightvnc
[09:22] <logivision> Rasman: Thanks, i'm going to go up and try to connect. WIsh me luck!
[09:23] <Alpha1> how do I make firefox the primary app? double clicking on .html files opens them in firefox though
[09:23] <roler> My Firefox 2.0 is not using my gnome GTK2 theme buttons or input fields. How can I make it so it does?
[09:23] <BigToe> why? it's the only way people read the questions I ask :\
[09:23] <mnoir> Alpha1: i prefer quanta+ but this problem is not that hard to fix
[09:23] <DeMan> hi. I have two files which I want to run in a cron. I want each one of them, to run every 30 minutes, but I want them to have 15 minutes between each other.
[09:23] <lufis> Alpha1: try system > preferences > preferred applications
[09:23] <elyon> tonyKUN - and remember, with the Live CD, you can come in here and get more help.  But I'm pretty sure you're safe with the advice I gave you.
[09:23] <jasin> Alpha, make is the default browser
[09:23] <tonyKUN> so what do you people think, that mounting point should I choose for the harddrive that i'm installing ubuntu to?
[09:23] <Alpha1> ta
[09:23] <desp> anyone can help me please
[09:23] <RickyRay> graphics safe mode produces the same thing
[09:23] <mnoir> Alpha1: right click and look for file associations a lot like in windows, i think
[09:23] <RickyRay> it could be because i'm trying to use raid 1, but that's what i need
[09:24] <rasman> BigToe, 'chgrp alex /usr/local/lib'  && 'chmod g+r /usr/local/lib'
[09:24] <BigToe> thanks
[09:24] <xst> lufis: Hmm, (k)ubuntu usually detects that keyboard/monitor/graphics card itself when booting from the CD. Can't I make it re-autoprobe these settings instead of the somewhat un-userfriendly dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg trick?
[09:24] <Alpha1> okie dokie (I've got firefox under prefered apps already)
[09:24] <logivision> Rasman: Sorry, last question for at least a few minutes.  How do i check my IP ?
[09:24] <lufis> xst: I don't know, i've just always used that
[09:24] <mnoir> Alpha1: remove bluefish?
[09:24] <Alpha1> lol k
[09:24] <Alpha1> bbl
[09:25] <lufis> xst: it isn't difficult really... the only thing you have to input on are the monitor's sync specs
[09:25] <desp> guys
[09:25] <mnoir> Alpha1: i mean from the mime define, not the machine!
[09:25] <rasman> logivision, ifconfig -- also before sending these computers out.  Make sure to install openssh-server if you have a strong admin password.
[09:25] <rasman> logivision, you'll thank me later on :)
[09:25] <Alpha1> ok
[09:25] <linuxnewbie756> what are some good music players? i want to be as close to itunes as possible
[09:25] <hassan2a> re
[09:25] <hassan2a> re
[09:25] <hassan2a> re
[09:25] <desp> I need to creat mount points
[09:25] <hassan2a> e
[09:25] <desp> any idea
[09:25] <hassan2a> er
[09:25] <hassan2a> re
[09:25] <hassan2a> e
[09:25] <lufis> linuxnewbie756: amarok definitely
[09:25] <hassan2a> e
[09:26] <mnoir> !ops
[09:26] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[09:26] <hassan2a> re
[09:26] <logivision> Rasman: thank you. Thank you for all of your help so far too.
[09:26] <rasman> logivision, you can use putty from windows and ssh from a linux client
[09:26] <Alpha1> mnoir: where is the mime stuff?
[09:26] <hassan2a> !op
[09:26] <hassan2a> !deop
[09:26] <hassan2a> !ops
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <linuxnewbie756> i love amarok,
[09:26] <linuxnewbie756> lufis, what version are you using?
[09:26] <rasman> linuxnewbie756, amarok is supposed to be pretty good, but I like banshee
[09:26] <lufis> linuxnewbie756: 1.4.4 i think
[09:26] <Alpha1> I like beep-media-player
[09:26] <linuxnewbie756> lufis, how did you install it?
[09:26] <jasin> alpha1, To make Firefox your default web browser, select Tools > OptionsEdit > PreferencesFirefox > Preferences
[09:26] <jasin>   and click the Check Now button in the Main panel.
[09:26] <lufis> linuxnewbie756: compiled it
[09:27] <tblaine> I installed linux to a second hard drive, needed to remove it to install on the drive in a second machine, now I cannot access my WinXP Pro that was originally in the first system, how do I remove or bypass the GRUB? I keep getting Loading Stage 1.5 then the error code 21
[09:27] <linuxnewbie756> lufis, from source? can you show me how?
[09:27] <Alpha1> ta
[09:27] <desp> Guys anyone csn see me ?
[09:27] <tonyKUN> desp - ya
[09:27] <desp> nice
[09:27] <lufis> linuxnewbie756: sure... do you have an IM handle elsewhere? freenode is weird about pm's
[09:27] <roler> My Firefox 2.0 is not using my gnome GTK2 theme buttons or input fields. How can I make it so it does?
[09:27] <linuxnewbie756> tblaine, search the web for a program that will modify your MBR
[09:27] <tonyKUN> whats a good irc client that works with unbuntu
[09:27] <IdleOne> xchat
[09:28] <lufis> tonyKUN: gaim?
[09:28] <linuxnewbie756> i do. what do you have?
[09:28] <markus_nagle1> irssi