[06:03] <Glacia> i should mention i am making this via windows so the sudo commands dont help... still reading though lol :P
[06:04] <artichoku> i haven't had to work on atheros before, i think i'll be useless to you
[06:04] <artichoku> acidfrost: i can tell you my wifi would drop out sometimes when i was in monitor mode
[06:04] <acidfrost> i'm thinking it might be do to overheating as sometimes my netbook gets warm
[06:04] <pangolin> Glacia: go down to step 6
[06:04] <ActionPa1snip> acidfrost: when it drops, run:  dmesg | tail    it may give clues
[06:04] <pangolin> Glacia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent#Installing_Ubuntu_on_USB_drive_using_Windows
[06:05] <ActionPa1snip> acidfrost: also try disabling ipv6 if you don't use it
[06:05] <Glacia> like i said i was still reading i was on step 5 :P
[06:05] <artichoku> wow it got late
[06:06] <ActionPa1snip> bassgoon: if you get asked for a username / password, press CTRL+ALT+F1 log in there and run:  passwd ubuntu    set the pass then press CTRL+ALT+F7   and login as ubuntu with the pass you set
[06:06] <artichoku> i just updated to 11.04, its.... weird
[06:06] <artichoku> i don't think i like unity
[06:06] <ActionPa1snip> artichoku: sounds like you just met unity
[06:06] <artichoku> ahaha, yup
[06:06] <cipher__> Mahn: http://i40.tinypic.com/15wzcyx.png
[06:06] <ActionPa1snip> artichoku: Natty has falback gnome by default, select it at login
[06:06] <acidfrost> whats got me confused though is that when it drops no usb wifi cards will register, lsusb will show my belkin FD6 and FD7 as Belkin Components
[06:07] <artichoku> yeah i saw that, compiz will let me disable it, too
[06:07] <cipher__> err I meant to highlight you Action
[06:07] <bassgoon> ActionPa1snip, genius, thanks :)
[06:07] <artichoku> which i may do because i want my desktop cube
[06:07] <cipher__> After I enabled the change I opened the windows on the right Action
[06:07] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: what am I looking at there?
[06:08] <cipher__> My attempt to show you gtk doesn't work properly on 11.10.
[06:08] <cipher__> I changed the theme on the left, then opened the windows on the right.
[06:08] <artichoku> i believe it's just about time for bed. that's enough trance music and MOO's for one night
[06:08] <cipher__> I was hoping maybe it would spark some idea?
[06:08] <artichoku> have fun everyone
[06:09] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: you can suppress those errors in the terminal with: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[06:09] <cipher__> thanks :p
[06:10] <cipher__> .
[06:10] <cipher__> apparently I quit
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> morning, howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer on an older laptop?
[06:11] <Glacia> ok i need more help... my 16gb usb drive is only showing 3.43gb
[06:11] <Nano> did you change the cluster size last format?
[06:11] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, Can I replace gtk with an older version?
[06:12] <Glacia> huh?
[06:14] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, look how ugly it is: http://i39.tinypic.com/velr2s.png :(
[06:16] <chris__> Im wanting to restart my computer every day at 12:15. Would this be correct in crontab "15 0 * * * sudo shutdown -r now"
[06:16] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: GTK is just a framework used to make the Gnome desktop. You can't really replace it
[06:17] <cipher__> I thought GTK was like QT, or any other window rendering system?
[06:17] <dies_irae> chris__: 'sudo reboot' would save u several bytes
[06:18] <chris__> how so dies_irae?
[06:18] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: thats just another toolkit
[06:18] <d34d1y> Anyone know how to make compiz open/close animations work for all windows?
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer in unity?
[06:18] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: tried a different theme?
[06:18] <chris__> nevermind
[06:19] <dice> how to remove unity in 11.10?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: yes, its on an older laptop, after reboot corrupt mouse pointer is gone
[06:19] <dies_irae> chris__: 'shutdown -r now' is considerable longer than 'reboot'
[06:19] <unyilz> tes
[06:19] <unyilz> hi.... guys
[06:20] <ActionPa1snip> dice: just install a different DE and use that. I'd suggest XFCE if you like the Gnome2 smell
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> d34d1y: did you install ccsm?
[06:21] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: is the ram healthy?
[06:21] <d34d1y> Yes I have it installed, i just don't know how to make the open/close animations work for every window
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: i think 1gig, does unity go blurry on low ram?
[06:22] <bassgoon> so is the 1mb partition that got created with the bios_grub flag the boot partition?
[06:22] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: wasnt a question of quantity, was a question of health
[06:23] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, I am just curious, does X provide a low level interface to draw primitives and such? Is that were other took kits abstract X and build upon it? Or what is GTK exactly?
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: ram should be fine...
[06:24] <chris__> is there a way to allow limited users run 'sudo apt-get -y update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade'?
[06:24] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: as far as I remember it doesn't. I remember in mandrake having to manually place windows when my WM fellover
[06:24] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: should isn't sufficient
[06:24] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: there is memtest in the grub menu. I suggest you use it
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: when the mouse pointer get corrupt it looks like a little cube
[06:25] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: run a few of the tests and see if you see any red. press ESC to reboot after about 20 mins to reboot to your OS
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: ill memtest, but i doubt its ram related...
[06:27] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: its good to isolate out
[06:28] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: also try Unity2D session (if you use unity)
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: i agree on that one
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: it tryed both 2d and 3d, but keeps booting corrupt mouse pointer once in a while (not every boot)
[06:32] <NoseWalrus> in ubuntu 11.10, how do you change the command of an application launcher?
[06:32] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: i'd look at ram then
[06:33] <ActionPa1snip> NoseWalrus: edit the file in /usr/share/applications
[06:33] <ActionPa1snip> NoseWalrus: edit the Exec= line
[06:33] <NoseWalrus> ActionPalsnip thanks
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: ill test it tnx
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> what X does xubuntu use?
[06:37] <Glacia> ok can anyone help me recover my lost space on my usb drive
[06:38] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: Xorg, like the others...
[06:38] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Xorg, like any other distro. If you mean the desktop environment, XFCE.
[06:38] <theadmin> Glacia: lost space? Can you explain a bit more?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[06:38] <Glacia> 16gb usb showing only 3.44gb of total space
[06:39] <theadmin> Glacia: Hm, have you tried clearing the partition table and formatting it to a single partition?
[06:39] <theadmin> Glacia: Helped me when I had something like that
[06:39] <theadmin> Glacia: Just open up gparted, select the usb drive in the top right box, delete everything and create a single fat32 partition
[06:40] <Glacia> well i used windows format and tried it it didnt work
[06:40] <cipher__> I am running ubuntu 11.10 (they have never released a worse distro, too late now, though) and openbox. I am using gtk-chtheme and a few gnome utilities in an attempt to change themes. Very few programs register the chance: http://i40.tinypic.com/15wzcyx.png .... On the left I activated the theme, then proceeded to open the windows on the right to demonstrate the issue. If anyone could help me fix this I would be very greatful, it's so hi
[06:40] <cipher__> deous :p
[06:40] <cipher__> oh sorry about the comment, i was using it as a cookie cutter, from #debian and #linux
[06:40] <cipher__> don't mean to be offensive
[06:41] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: the distro is still ubuntu..
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | Glacia
[06:41] <theadmin> Glacia: That's not the point -- you're formatting a signle partition in Windows, not a whole drive.
[06:41] <slaptman> does anyone know how to get xubuntu 11.10 to play nice with compiz?
[06:42] <theadmin> slaptman: Just add "compiz --replace" to the startup?
[06:42] <ActionPa1snip> slaptman: just run:  compiz --replace    and it should run instead of xwin4
[06:42] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: It's "xfwm4"
[06:42] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: close ;)
[06:42] <slaptman> thanks!!!!you are a life saver !!
[06:42] <Glacia> yep its parted
[06:43] <ActionPa1snip> slaptman: eyecandy is hardly a huge issue...
[06:43]  * lotuspsychje likes eyecandy
[06:43] <theadmin> Glacia: Well, the point is basically remove ALL the partitions and create only ONE partition.
[06:43] <theadmin> eyecandy == slow == meh
[06:43] <Glacia> i cant remember how to do that on windows >.<
[06:43] <slaptman> need to zoom in the desktop only
[06:44] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: +1
[06:44] <theadmin> Glacia: Are you on Windows or Ubuntu right now?
[06:44] <slaptman> dont care about the bling
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: on ssd and 64bit nothings slow here
[06:44] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Still slower than normal, even if you don't notice it
[06:44] <ActionPa1snip> slaptman: ahh, why not use xmag then :)
[06:44] <Glacia> windows
[06:44] <ActionPa1snip> !info xmag
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> theadmin:true
[06:45] <theadmin> Glacia: Start -> Control Panel -> Administrative tools -> Computer management -> Storage -> Disk Management
[06:45] <ActionPa1snip> slaptman: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/xmag.1.html
[06:45] <Glacia> im in there now
[06:47] <Groan> is there an easy way to reinstall dbus? my dbus just won't work.
[06:47] <slaptman> yes i would rather do that
[06:48] <theadmin> Groan: "won't work"? dbus? Are you sure it's configured to start at boot?
[06:50] <basil_kurian_> I have a problem with sub domain delegation in Bind
[06:50] <basil_kurian_> can some on ehelp me
[06:51] <Joker_toji> hey
[06:51] <Glacia> theadmin, what now?
[06:51] <Joker_toji> anyone here who can help me with
[06:51] <Joker_toji> lightdm
[06:51] <Joker_toji> I changed the background image
[06:52] <Joker_toji> and now it is blank
[06:52] <Joker_toji> anyone???
[06:52] <theadmin> Glacia: Huh? The rest should be fairly obvious... Bah. Got TeamViewer? PM me with the login details, I'll do it myself
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:53] <Glacia> i dont hold on
[06:53] <Glacia> actually i cant use teamviewer
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: you know howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer on an older laptop?
[06:54] <Glacia> it shows an unallocated part and when i right click it shows nothing to click
[06:54] <Joker_toji> light dm help plz!
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> Glacia: reformat the whole usb stick
[06:54] <theadmin> Glacia: Oh, okay. Well, anyway, in the bottom part of the window find your USB drive. You'll see small white bits, partitions. Right click every of them and choose "Delete", and when you're done with that right-click the large unallocated space and you're done. We don't really support Windows here, if you need more help please go to a private message session with me.
[06:55] <theadmin> Joker_toji: Patience.
[06:55] <ryoohki> how do i install a package held back?
[06:55] <Glacia> ok
[06:55] <Joker_toji> theadmin: okay :)
[06:55] <ryoohki> oneric has fwbuilder 4.2 and fwbuilder 5.1 is out
[06:55] <theadmin> ryoohki: Try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" before installing it.
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> !info fwbuilder
[06:55] <Glacia> the delete volume is not highlighted to click on
[06:56] <theadmin> Glacia: pm, pm.
[06:56] <theadmin> ryoohki: Ubuntu often has outdated software.
[06:56] <ryoohki> theadmin: thanks but no effect
[06:56] <ryoohki> theadmin: i noticed but it is better than debian regarding currentness
[06:57] <ryoohki> theadmin: so what now?  fwbuilder is still held back
[06:58] <theadmin> ryoohki: It's not "held back", there just is NO newer version. 4.2.2 is the latest in oneiric.
[06:58] <theadmin> ryoohki: Search for a ppa or build from source
[06:58] <ryoohki> theadmin: no - i added a fwbulder.list to /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[06:58] <ryoohki> theadmin: it can see the new fwbuilder but i won't install it
[06:59] <theadmin> ryoohki: Ok... Try using aptitude -- sudo aptitude install fwbuilder -- it will tell you what's wrong, at least
[06:59] <ryoohki> The following packages have been kept back: fwbuilder
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> ryoohki: did you add ppa lines in your software centre?
[06:59] <OKTOKT> I can't seem to get any lights out of my wired ethernet card. Any suggestions on where to start?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> OKTOKT: did you connect on cabled network
[07:01] <ActionPa1snip> Joker_toji: set it back so it works then retry
[07:01] <OKTOKT> lotuspsychje: What do you mean? I'm not able to link up my machine and router. There are no lights on the ports.
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> OKTOKT: in the right corner, did you click on cabled network to activate?
[07:03] <ryoohki> ryoohki: i had to purge the old fwbuilder fwbuilder-common fwbuilder-doc
[07:03] <OKTOKT> lotuspsychje: It says it's 'disconnected'
[07:03] <ryoohki> lotuspsychje: no, just to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/fwbuilder.list
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> OKTOKT:try to connect to cabled network
[07:04] <OKTOKT> lotuspsychje: There are no options to connect to any. I've tried to setup a configuration for one, however it says that the cable is disconnected. Which it isn't
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> OKTOKT: are you sure your cables are connected the right way into router?
[07:05] <OKTOKT> lotuspsychje: Yes, this isn't a case of my network cable being routed into the WAN port for example... The cable is also good.
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> OKTOKT: are your network card drivers installed on ocelot?
[07:07] <OKTOKT> lotuspsychje: I'm running lucid
[07:07] <OKTOKT> sky2 drivers for my device.
[07:07] <OKTOKT> lotuspsychje: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1913038
[07:08] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: if you unload then reload the module. Is it ok?
[07:08] <Groan> theadmin: i was having some trouble with the default install on oneiric so i did a make on the git repository and installed it. that seems to have broken it completely and now it won't start
[07:08] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: What is the command to unload the sky2 module?
[07:08] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: Also I'd assume it's a modprobe to reload it?
[07:08] <theadmin> Groan: Hm, you need to reinstall the package from apt basically
[07:09] <Groan> theadmin: it won't seem to overwrite my custom install
[07:09] <Groan> and it definitely won't start
[07:09] <theadmin> Groan: sudo apt-get --force --reinstall install dbus # Does this work?
[07:09] <Groan> nope
[07:09] <Groan> tried that
[07:09] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: sudo modprobe -r sky2; sleep 2; sudo modprobe sky2
[07:10] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: the pause gives the system chance to stop etc
[07:10] <Joker_toji> ActionPa1snip: didn't work
[07:10] <Pseudoephedrine> I am trying to find a good tutorial of how i can use my server as a web server, i was just wondering if anyone would happen to have a good link to a tutorial? With step by step information from start to finish if possible. I would be really greatful!
[07:10] <Groan> well let me try it with the force
[07:10] <Groan> option
[07:10] <Joker_toji> now even the default is not set
[07:10] <Joker_toji> I tried editing the unity greeter conf file
[07:10] <Joker_toji> didn't work
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> !server | Pseudoephedrine
[07:11] <Pseudoephedrine> lotuspsychje: Not exactly what i am looking for but thanks ;)
[07:11] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: Looks like I got lights... I knew it was the module...
[07:11] <extor> Is anyone familiar with xvnc on ubuntu and would you also know whether this binary Xvnc is no longer provided? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/Xvnc4.1.html
[07:11] <Pseudoephedrine> lotuspsychje: I already have Ubuntu setup, i want to turn it into a web server for hosting a website
[07:11] <pangolin> !lamp
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> alot of good help here :p
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !vnc
[07:13] <Pseudoephedrine> pangolin: was that for me by any chance?
[07:13] <pangolin> Pseudoephedrine: it was
[07:13] <Pseudoephedrine> pangolin: thanks
[07:14] <Pseudoephedrine> pangolin: will LAMP also work on a Debian system?
[07:14] <Groan> theadmin: force is not udnerstood
[07:15] <Groan> --force
[07:15] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: ok is it connecting now?
[07:16] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: if it does, add the command in /etc/rc.local above the exit 0   line and it will run automagically at boot.
[07:16] <pangolin> Pseudoephedrine: if you are running debian you should ask in #debian
[07:16] <Pseudoephedrine> pangolin: No i am just wondering if it would also work on a Debian machine, i have Ubuntu.
[07:16] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: It doesn't seem to be getting it's DHCP lease
[07:17] <pangolin> Pseudoephedrine: package names may be slightly different, honestly not sure.
[07:18] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: is the interface still eth0?
[07:18] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: if so, run:  sudo dhclient3 eth0
[07:19] <Groan> and when i do that i keep getting a "Failed to connect to scoket system_bus_socket
[07:21] <Emanon> So I've got a problem, ubuntu keeps changing what software it uses for certain things (which is fine) but they keep changing to things with LESS functionality. Rhythmbox to banshee (less plugins, less options, less everything) pidgin to empathy (NO plugins, no security, no way in hell I'm using it) evolution to thunderbird (great options HORRIBLE integration with the rest of the desktop (calendar and so forth) what's the deal?
[07:21] <Glacia> in my installer what should i set my installation size at? does it matter what the size is?
[07:22] <cipher__> Is there a utility to change gtk3 themes?
[07:23] <urlin2u> Emanon, you can remove and install what you want most of the time, and the open source area has a lot of choices.
[07:24] <hiddensoul> Emanon, you could always just install a bare debian install and install what you want
[07:24] <Groan> i already have ubuntu installed. I'm trying to reinstall it. the installer refuses to see my HDD unless i'm in recovery mode. Any idea how to get past this?
[07:24] <Emanon> I am aware I just wanted to know why the devs are picking such lacking programs to default to?
[07:25] <urlin2u> Groan, what are you trying to reinstall with?
[07:25] <Acme> I agree Emanon, I used love all the defaults, now I think twice before installing newer versions, I rarely have time for much customization anymore
[07:25] <Emanon> I actually LIKE (nearly love) ubuntu I just dislike the direction it seems to be taking.
[07:25] <cipher__> How do I install a gtk3 theme?
[07:25] <Groan> urlin2u: bootable usb oneiric server 64bit
[07:25] <urlin2u> Emanon, I think you would have to ask them, not everybody can be served.
[07:25] <cipher__> Emanon, 7.04-10.04 was great
[07:25] <hiddensoul> Emanon, part of it is a shift away from the desktop to using ubuntu on thiings like tablets, phones and car entertainment systems etc
[07:25] <urlin2u> Groan, where are you getting a recovery access at
[07:26] <cipher__> it's becoming too restrictive.
[07:26] <Emanon> There is no excuse for using empathy, it has NO security  whatsoever and the empathy/telepathy devs seem to be actually intentionally denying many requests to put otr and such seriously important options into it.
[07:26] <Groan> urlin2u: through the installer, its an option before i pick "install ubuntu"
[07:26] <urlin2u> Groan, actually I'm not familiar with the server setup.
[07:26] <Groan> i doubt it's much different?
[07:26] <cipher__> installing gtk3 anyone?
[07:27] <cipher__> theme*
[07:27] <Acme> so basically the desktop is not their priority anymore?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> Emanon : like urlin2u says opensource has lots of options, with many good packages
[07:27] <Emanon> And why is moving to mobile devices a good reason to make things insecure?
[07:27] <hiddensoul> Acme, http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/31/ubuntu-coming-to-tablets-phones-cars-and-smart-tvs-by-2014/
[07:27] <Emanon> Shouldn't devices with the potential to track us and such have even BETTER security?
[07:27] <Glacia> sorry i crashed
[07:28] <pp7> Glacia: hope u have insurance :P
[07:28] <Glacia> ha!
[07:28] <Emanon> Especially given the rising threat of internet censorship worldwide.
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> !offtopic
[07:28] <urlin2u> we might recognize when these ideas are our own personal opinions and may not represent everybody Emanon and Acme
[07:28] <Emanon> SOPA, PIPA, PC-IPA, ACTA and whatnot.
[07:29] <urlin2u> what doe sopa have to do with ubuntu
[07:29] <urlin2u> does
[07:29] <Emanon> I just think ubuntu should continue it's awesome work by providing a SAFE platform for the future.
[07:29] <Glacia> anywho... in my ubuntu installer does it matter what the installer size is?
[07:29] <Emanon> One we can rely on to have the security of our data at the forefront.
[07:29] <urlin2u> Emanon, what you getting pwnd?
[07:29] <bazhang> !ot | Emanon
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:30] <share> ^
[07:30] <Emanon> Is there a #ubuntu-devs channel or something?
[07:30] <bazhang> Emanon, it's not a support channel
[07:30] <bazhang> Emanon, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:31] <Emanon> I'm not looking for support, I KNOW how to fiddle with it to make it do what I want I just want to know why that isn't the default?
[07:31] <bazhang> Emanon, talking about sopa etc is not a support issue. lets move on
[07:31] <Glacia> lotuspsychje, does the installation size matter when installing ubuntu?
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> Glacia, are you installing ubuntu now?
[07:32] <earlybirdd> hey guys whats the best ubuntu release for a newbie to get started with
[07:32] <Glacia> yes
[07:32] <earlybirdd> ive never used linux before and want to check out what its capable of
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> Glacia:depends on what you want dualboot or single boot?
[07:32] <hiddensoul> earlybirdd, download the latest livecd and run from that to try it out
[07:33] <Glacia> single on a 16gb hdd
[07:33] <Emanon> earlybirdd: there are only 2 releases of normal ubuntu atm Desktop and Alternate.
[07:33] <Emanon> Try Desktop it's easier to jump into.
[07:33] <[deXter]> O.o
[07:33] <earlybirdd> what is the difference if you dont mind me asking briefly?
[07:33] <urlin2u> earlybirdd, the longterm is 10.04 11.10 the latest 12.04 the next long term, the best is what you think it is.
[07:33] <goddard> After updating using the new kernel to boot it just hangs at the ubuntu logo
[07:33] <airtonix> Emanon: two as far as this channel is concerned, there is however more than that
[07:33] <Emanon> Desktop is a live disk which means you can use it without installing just to test it out earlybirdd
[07:33] <bazhang> Emanon, thats not correct. there is minimal as well
[07:33] <[deXter]> Emanon, I'm sure earlybird meant Ubuntu v/s Kubuntu v/s Lubuntu etc
[07:33] <Emanon> Oh pardon I forgot minimal you're right.
[07:34] <Glacia> lotuspsychje, single boot on a 16gb HDD
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Glacia: you could use the whole usb drive yes
[07:34] <earlybirdd> Thats cool i plan on dual booting anyway so ill have this permanently
[07:34] <Groan> is there a way to make my installer see my fakeraid drives?
[07:34] <Emanon> Alternate offers extra options such as RAID LVM and LUKS
[07:35] <earlybirdd> Is it possible to say log out of windows and log into your dual booted linux partition via VNC?
[07:35] <Glacia> lotuspsychje, but the question is if i dont want to would using the 3gb installation size be any better or worse than the 10gb size?
[07:35] <Groan> oh. so i have to use the alternate cd/
[07:35] <Emanon> Unless you need to use raid, lvm or full disk encryption  I'd say use the desktop earlybirdd.
[07:35] <hiddensoul> earlybirdd, no, but you could install windows in a Virtual Machine
[07:35] <Emanon> It offers the most commonly used tasks without much in depth knowledge required.
[07:36] <Acme> earlybirdd , fo rthat you probably would need to run one session in a virtual machine
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> Glacia: size is your own choice to partition
[07:36] <Emanon> You could even use a virtual machine to a physical drive so you could use the same windows install as a VM or actually boot into it directly.
[07:36] <Glacia> lotuspsychje, so there is no difference between them?
[07:36] <earlybirdd> AHh
[07:36] <Groan> I have a raid1 array defined in dmraid, if i completely wipe my system and install a new distro, will my raid disappear?
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> Glacia: if the install accept your size there's no difference
[07:37] <Glacia> lotuspsychje, ok ty
[07:37] <earlybirdd> I suppose loading linux in a VM in windows is a completley idiotic idea?
[07:37] <Emanon> But if you plan to have both running simultaneously I'd warn you, ubuntu plays nicer in a VM than windows.
[07:37] <airtonix> earlybirdd: not really
[07:37] <Emanon> NO it isn't an idiotic idea earlybirdd
[07:37] <pp7> earlybirdd: depends
[07:37] <Emanon> Ubuntu runs better as a vm on windows than windows does as a vm on ubuntu.
[07:37] <airtonix> that's debatable
[07:38] <earlybirdd> Sweet
[07:38] <Emanon> In my experience that is.
[07:38] <Acme> oks question, I have dual boot, windows, ubuntu. Need to reinstall windows, what is the process to reconfigure the bootloader so I can access ubuntu again?
[07:38] <earlybirdd> What im aiming to do is set up a Server in Ubuntu In Windows...
[07:38] <earlybirdd> A FTP/HTTP server
[07:38] <hiddensoul> I run windows in VMware in seamless mode on my linux laptop, I need the Windows install for tech support
[07:38] <hiddensoul> runs fine
[07:38] <Emanon> There will be a lot of overhead due to it being a VM but it's doable earlybirdd.
[07:38] <urlin2u> Emanon, thank you I find W7 much better in a vm then ubuntu ever has been, and I hardly ever use it
[07:38] <airtonix> earlybirdd: you're going to have to look at how to get bridged networking allowable on the host then.
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> lol alotta emulation here
[07:39] <Emanon> Yes windows RUNS just fine in VM you just can't do much with it.
[07:39] <earlybirdd> Cant i remotely access the VM ?
[07:39] <Emanon> The only things I need windows for it won't do in a vm properly.
[07:39] <Emanon> Netflix and certain games.
[07:39] <Acme> earlybird uf it is not a critical app, or massive production system, living as a virtual machine should be fine
[07:39] <dies_irae> w00t
[07:40] <hiddensoul> fair enough Emanon , but for 2D stuff it works for me
[07:40] <airtonix> earlybirdd: you're obviously expecting other users on your network to access this "vm ubuntu server which is a ftp/http service" ?
[07:40] <Emanon> Acme: is right though, what you want to do should work fine with a little effort.
[07:40] <Acme> yes, the virtual machine will have network ID if you configure it, so you can run VNCserver, ftp, sshserver, etc
[07:40] <earlybirdd> sure it' really a personal thing but further down the track maybe?
[07:40] <dies_irae> xen + IOMMU way to go for simultanous Linux/m$$$$$
[07:40] <dies_irae> without compromising m$$$$ dx11
[07:41] <Acme> and from outside, you just access it as it was a real remote machine
[07:41] <airtonix> earlybirdd: then by default virtualbox will provide your vm with NAT only networking, but you can change it to BRIDGED so that the vm exists on the same network as your host machine.
[07:41] <Emanon> You can actually install each system as a bootable system then make both accessible from the other via a VM so you can boot into or run virtualized either side of your dual boot.
[07:41] <Emanon> It's a little more complicated but it offers some distinct advantages to VM or dualboot alone.
[07:42] <earlybirdd> I see
[07:42] <Acme> yeah, I work in a similar setup, corporate windows hosting virtual machine ubuntu, with virtualbox, I never spend much time on network setup so I access it by ip
[07:42] <airtonix> earlybirdd: this is a setting in the virtualbox vm settings under networking, its a drop down menu with a few options.
[07:42] <Acme> with vnc, ssh
[07:42] <earlybirdd> That sounds pretty clever...
[07:43] <airtonix> Acme: i'm using archipel to drive libvirtd now, virtualbox headless is kinds subpar for server vm hosting
[07:43] <earlybirdd> so the Virtual Machine is based on the Dual booted OS?
[07:43] <earlybirdd> and visa versa?
[07:43] <Emanon> Well the virtual machine IS the dual booted os.
[07:43] <earlybirdd> ya
[07:43] <Emanon> You just run the dual boot drive in the VM rather than making a VM separately.
[07:43] <earlybirdd> Great...i thought it would be two different instances
[07:43] <Emanon> Nope same instance.
[07:43] <airtonix> earlybirdd: you run windows, install virtualbox, create a vm, tell it to boot from a ubuntu livecd ISO file and then you have it running inside windows
[07:43] <Acme> I have read some about the headless mode, I have not tried, but yeah if is only for remote access that is better
[07:44] <Acme> in my case, while in office I access it directly, when at home, by vnc
[07:44] <airtonix> Acme: there is phpvirtualbox available to manage it
[07:44] <Acme> cool, I will try to read about it, tnks
[07:44] <airtonix> Acme: which is exactly the same provisions as the desktop gui configuration application
[07:44] <Emanon> Or you tell virtualbox on windows to use your ubuntu drive as it's drive and tell virt-manager on ubuntu to use windows' drive.
[07:45] <Emanon> It's a little bit of a pita in virtualbox but dead simple in virt-manager.
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> !info phpvirtualbox
[07:45] <airtonix> lotuspsychje: it's not official nor in the repo
[07:45] <ariasbeep> hello everybody I got a sony bluetooth headset, bluetooth hardware of my notebook paired headset so well but I can configure it like headphones
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> airtonix: ok tnx
[07:46] <ariasbeep> the model is sony dr-bt22a
[07:47] <Emanon> brb.
[07:47] <hiddensoul> ariasbeep, you need to find out if it (headphones) support the headphone profile, they may only support the headset profile
[07:47] <ariasbeep> hiddensoul, and I do that with?
[07:47] <earlybirdd> Hey a question...what are some benefits of Ubuntu? Anyone mind pointing out? I dont get how so many people can use an OS .....say compared to windows..maybe theres a site which explains the flaws /benefits of each?
[07:47] <scientes_> Jan 21 23:46:58 ubuntu-SD kernel: [65590.108105] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device number 126 using ohci_hcd
[07:47] <scientes_> Jan 21 23:46:58 ubuntu-SD kernel: [65590.334170] scsi11 : usb-storage 2-2:1.0
[07:47] <earlybirdd> Maybe there are a few applications I'm missing out on?
[07:47] <scientes_> but it doesn't show up in fdisk -l
[07:48] <hiddensoul> ariasbeep, by reading the manual that came with the headphones
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> earlybirdd: easy,safe,never crashes
[07:49] <hiddensoul> earlybirdd, my ubuntu server has been up for 12 and a half months with no reboot, that is one reason
[07:49] <ariasbeep> hiddensoul, but it works so well with Ipod touch, windows 7 and htc incredible, and I did read somebody in a forum who said it worked on his mini laptop
[07:49] <pp7> hiddensoul: any reason why my server slows down after a few months?
[07:49] <cis> hiddensoul: server vs workstation are two different stories. i think he's asking from an enduser workstation perspective
[07:49] <pp7> hiddensoul: reboot fixes it
[07:50] <cis> earlybirdd: care to clarify?
[07:50] <hiddensoul> cis, cool :)
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> earlybirdd: i installed ubuntu for older friends too, they never been able to crash their machine
[07:50] <ariasbeep> hiddensoul, the headphones appeared on my notebook's bluetooth scanner
[07:50] <hiddensoul> pp7, maybe something is having a go at the ram, memory leak somewhere ?
[07:51] <pp7> hmm
[07:51] <pp7> hiddensoul: naa i checks and ram was fine, seemed to be disk io related
[07:51] <pp7> checked*
[07:51] <hiddensoul> ariasbeep, I dont have any bluetooth headsets to play with so I cant really help much more then that.
[07:52] <ariasbeep> hiddensoul, ok
[07:52] <mozammel> how to set mountpoint to ext4 partition?
[07:52] <urlin2u> mozammel, when?
[07:52] <scientes_> where is the kernel config file?
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> bbl breakfast
[07:53] <ariasbeep> anybody here knows how to configure a bluetooth headset to received sound of notebook?
[07:53] <Pseudoephedrine> dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--configure):
[07:53] <Pseudoephedrine>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[07:53] <mozammel> after installation
[07:53] <Emanon> I'm back, please hold your applause.
[07:53] <airtonix> ok
[07:53] <hiddensoul> wb Emanon
[07:54] <urlin2u> mozammel, what is the goal here in the end?
[07:54] <ariasbeep> I am able to have blueman discover and successfully connect with the headphones but music will only play on the built in speaker
[07:54] <Emanon> Right click on the volume icon in your bar ariasbeep select "Sound Settings"
[07:54] <hiddensoul> ariasbeep, have you had a look in system-preferences-sound to see if it there as a sound device after you have paired it ?
[07:54] <Emanon> ariasbeep: select the "Output" tab. Select your headset.
[07:55] <ariasbeep> hiddensoul, Emanon, I tried that...long time ago xD
[07:55] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine "sudo apt-get build-dep"
[07:56] <Emanon> Sorry just came back from getting REAL IM, Email, and media players
[07:56] <Acme> earlybird, about your question on benefits of ubuntu
[07:57] <Acme> Linux is based on Unix, it gives it a lot of differences with windows, but
[07:57] <kenta> hi
[07:57] <Emanon> But also a lot of advantages.
[07:58] <Acme> in practical terms at least for me,  I love the bash capabilities, windows can;t just compete with bash
[07:58] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: E: Must specify at least one package to check builddeps for
[07:58] <Emanon> Such as userspace separation from the main bulk of the system and from other users to prevent cross contamination in the event of some security breach.
[07:58] <hiddensoul> I have to second that Acme I love bash and ssh is so much quicker then vnc
[07:58] <Myrtti> alright, you're starting to wander a bit far from the topic of the channel which isn't comparison of different operating systems or even linux distributions
[07:58] <Acme> now, after a while developing software, you notice some filesystem operations just seem to be much faster on linux
[07:58] <Emanon> The command line kicks windows butt.
[07:58] <kenta> bi!!
[07:59] <Chipzzz> Psuedoephedrine: add the package you were trying to install to the end of the line
[07:59] <mozammel> urlin2u: i just intall ubunt 11.10, i have 3 other ext4 partition, i want it permanetly, though its automount when i click on it. i just want to set a custom mountpoin
[07:59] <Emanon> Big name games are a bit lacking as is support for some moneygrubbing services like netflix.
[07:59] <Acme> oks oks, I was just anwering earlybird
[07:59] <urlin2u> mozammel, sorry I don't understand that.
[08:00] <Acme> to finalize, it depends on what you use the computer for,  for some people uses it maybe it does not matter what the use, for some uses, it may be critical
[08:00] <scientes_> where is the cgit? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/KernelGitGuide?action=show&redirect=KernelTeam%2FKernelGitGuide
[08:00] <Emanon> Precisely.
[08:00] <scientes_> I
[08:00] <Chipzzz> mozammel: if you want it permanently mounted you have to add it to your /etc/fstab
[08:00] <scientes_> 'm just trying to see the ubuntu kernel
[08:00] <scientes_> 's  config
[08:01] <scientes_> and you bimbos didn't turn on tproc/config.gz
[08:01] <kenta> hi!
[08:01] <Acme> oks my question again, dual both Windows/ubuntu, I need to reinstall windows, how do I restore the bootloader?
[08:01] <kenta> こんにちは
[08:01] <urlin2u> !grub > Acme
[08:01] <Emanon> Windows or ubuntu bootloader?
[08:02] <Emanon> Or just listen to urlin2u's ubottu forward.
[08:02] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: Ok, all of that seemed to go alright. Does that mean mysql-server mysql-client are both installed now?
[08:02] <ariasbeep> anybody here knows how to configure a bluetooth headset to received sound of notebook?
[08:02] <urlin2u> ! cn > kenta
[08:02] <ariasbeep> I am able to have blueman discover and successfully connect with the headphones but music will only play on the built in speaker
[08:02] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: hopefully
[08:02] <Myrtti> !jp > kenta
[08:03] <kenta> yes
[08:03] <Acme> oks thanks I got a link from the bot, thanks
[08:03] <Emanon> That was chinese? I thoght it was japanese too lol.
[08:03] <earlybirdd> cis well i just wanted to know how why so many people use it? especially nerds? is there some sort of package system that I dont get...or is windows that much of a fuck up?
[08:03] <urlin2u> I wasn't sure
[08:03] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: How would i know?
[08:03] <pp7> kenta: こんにちは ?
[08:03] <Myrtti> urlin2u: I always do a whois on the commandline for the ip
[08:03] <Emanon> earlybirdd: A little of both.
[08:03] <urlin2u> Myrtti, that makes sense
[08:03] <urlin2u> :D
[08:03] <Myrtti> urlin2u: country:        JP
[08:03] <Emanon> It's a bit of nerd cred to use a nonstandard OS but also windows has some longstanding issues some of us can't stand.
[08:03] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: try "sudo apt-get check" and see if it complains about anything
[08:04] <kenta> is this not japanese commnity?
[08:04] <Zujamulex> !zh > kenta
[08:04] <Myrtti> kenta: no
[08:04] <Zujamulex> xD
[08:04] <Zujamulex> kenta: : this is the english one, read !jp
[08:04] <michael__> Need Help. I installed Ubuntu so that it wouldn't delete windows. I have been using Ubuntu for 5 days now and decided to boot windowsXP. All I get is a blank screen. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!
[08:04] <Zujamulex> !jp | kenta
[08:04] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: No problems, Thanks
[08:04] <Chipzzz> :)
[08:04] <kenta> thank you!!
[08:05] <Zujamulex> kenta: are you blind, CHECK YOUR PMs
[08:05] <Myrtti> Zujamulex: tsk, be nice
[08:05] <Emanon> michael__: Does windows show up as an option when you boot the computer? Underneath Ubuntu on some sort of selection screen?
[08:05] <Zujamulex> michael__: hmm, it does
[08:06] <michael__> Yes. WindowsXP shows up as a boot option
[08:06] <Zujamulex> does it show anything?
[08:06] <Zujamulex> and u can select it?
[08:06] <Emanon> And when you select it nothing happens?
[08:06] <michael__> When selected, i get a black screen
[08:06] <urlin2u> michael__, did you resize the XP before installing and make sure it worked?
[08:07] <michael__> I kept the disk partition at default when i installed ubuntu
[08:07] <michael__> 20GB for Ubuntu and 48GB for XP
[08:08] <urlin2u> michael__,  have you run a update-grub?
[08:08] <danny> hello i am trying to install ubuntu 11.10 along side windows but when i use the install its trying to install on the wrong partition or w.e there is a 41.1mb a 12.3gb and a 307.7 gb one and it is installing on the 12.3 how do i make it install on the 307 so i can acolate space to split it into 170 windows 7 and 130 ubuntu 11.10
[08:08] <michael__> i don't think so
[08:08] <earlybirdd> Would there be security flaws via windows If i setup Ubuntu in a VM with a web server?
[08:08] <cipher__> is there a flag to remove the menubar on gnome-terminal?
[08:08] <Emanon> No more than normal earlybirdd.
[08:08] <urlin2u> michael__, try in the terminal sudo update-grub
[08:08] <cipher__> the radio button doesn't work
[08:09] <spartan7> hey guys im trying to install ubuntu 11.10 onto an hp dv2000 and if my screen turns off I cannot get it to come on again. Also after install if the screen ever turns off I cannot get it to turn on again. Is there a fix for this?
[08:09] <urlin2u> danny, you need to use the something other the custom install.
[08:09] <cipher__> spartan7, try acpi=noirq
[08:09] <cipher__> on the boot options
[08:09] <michael__> @ Urlin2u finished
[08:09] <urlin2u> michael__, try rebooting and see if XP boots
[08:09] <cipher__> press f6, then exit, then after the two dashes "--" type that, hit enter.
[08:10] <Emanon> cipher__:  right click in the terminal and uncheck "Show Menu Bar"
[08:10] <Zujamulex> spartan7: same here, monitor Out of Range!
[08:10] <cipher__> Emanon, it's a well documented bug, doesn't work in ubuntu 11.10
[08:10] <michael__> ok, ill rejoin chat room if problem continues
[08:10] <danny> urlin2u, well there is the advanced partioning but idk how to use it and its my friends computer and i dont wanna delete anything that doesnt have to be deleted
[08:10] <cipher__> Emanon, infact there are all kinds of gui issues
[08:10] <Emanon> Oh pardon.
[08:10] <spartan7> cipher__: is that at grub before install?
[08:10] <Emanon> That's actually one bug I've never seen.
[08:10] <cipher__> sorry I didn't mean to come off abrasive
[08:10] <Emanon> It's ok bud.
[08:11] <Zujamulex> spartan7: it only shows up after booting, when display changes
[08:11] <cipher__> spartan7, are you trying to use the livecd, or did you install
[08:11] <Emanon> I didn't think you had.
[08:11] <cipher__> ha okay
[08:11] <spartan7> Zujamulex:  I dont even get that. everything is fine until the screen turns of for whatever reason.
[08:11] <spartan7> cipher__: both
[08:11] <urlin2u> danny, you can use the custom install click the partition you want, has to be a ext4 hit change then activate it put ? in the mount and install.
[08:11] <cipher__> well in grub hit e. then after you see the word quite add this with a space beforehand: acpi=noirq
[08:12] <Zujamulex> spartan7: after POST is fine?
[08:12] <Zujamulex> spartan7: do you see grub?
[08:12] <Zujamulex> spartan7: i cannot even see grub
[08:13] <spartan7> Zujamulex: I see grub. I can see everything but if the screen goes off I need to do a hard reset
[08:13] <urlin2u> danny, sorry mount is /
[08:13] <cis> earlybirdd: i personally prefer *nix OS because they are designed in a much saner manner and generally conform to logic more closely. Aside from that, OOB *nix has a much more feature rich and powerful tool set that i like having at my fingertips.
[08:13] <Zujamulex> spartan7: when grub appears, there's where i start seeing Out of Range, it comes back when it finished kernel boot and it changed the resolution
[08:13] <spartan7> cipher__: will try
[08:13] <cipher__> good luck
[08:13] <danny> urlin2u, well the partition that has windows on it is /dev/sda3 ntfs and that is the one i want to put half and half and if i do what u said its not gonna erase windows right ?
[08:13] <share> why Ubuntu switched from openoffice to libreoffic?
[08:13] <cipher__> spartan7,
[08:13] <Emanon> earlybirdd: Whereas I value it due to a greater range of options to maintain security.
[08:13] <cipher__> after you add it hit f10
[08:13] <cipher__> that will continue with the amendment
[08:14] <spartan7> cipher__: yea? do I need to do this everytie I bootup
[08:14] <danny> share, i like libre better and theres prolly other ppl like me out there
[08:14] <cipher__> you can make it persistent if it works
[08:14] <cipher__> so no
[08:14] <cipher__> assuming it works
[08:14] <cis> but each of us "nerds" will have our own reasons i'm sure.
[08:14] <cipher__> I am just guessing tbh
[08:14] <danny> share, very easy to swicth back to open if u are different
[08:14] <[deXter]> share, Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice#Initial_release
[08:14] <Emanon> share: I think it was due to libre maintaining complete open source whereas openoffice got bought back a little.
[08:14] <Emanon> Though I could be wrong.
[08:14] <Zujamulex> spartan7....
[08:14] <michael> Hello, Problem continues to persist
[08:14] <urlin2u> danny, you need to shrink the ntfs and make a ext4, and be aware of the limitations of the amount of partitions you can have,  can you run sudo fdisk -l in the ubuntu terminal and post the output
[08:15] <spartan7> Zujamulex: yea?
[08:15] <Emanon> To be honest I'm a geek not a nerd ;-)
[08:15] <share> Emanon: ok tks :)
[08:15] <Emanon> np share.
[08:15] <danny> urlin2u, im useing a cd i think so ? ill try right now
[08:15] <hiddensoul> Geek by nature, linux by choice
[08:15] <Guest68631> Sorry, accidentally logged in as Guest. I was michael_
[08:15] <Zujamulex> spartan7: just,
[08:16] <Guest68631> problem still persists  urlin2u
[08:16] <Zujamulex> spartan7: any idea about this boot monitorstuff?
[08:16] <Emanon> Linux by lack of choice. There's just no other way (save BSD) to get the kind of options linux offers.
[08:16] <danny> urlin2u, actully no i cant comp doesnt have internet
[08:16] <Guest68631> I still get a blank screen
[08:16] <Emanon> And BSD has always been a painfor me.
[08:16] <hiddensoul> Emanon, yeah same here, allthough my web/file server runs BSD
[08:17] <Guest68631> @ urln2u    brb visitors
[08:17] <spartan7> Zujamulex: is it also a dv2000?
[08:17] <Emanon> It IS the better option but it's a little TOO UNIXy for me.
[08:17] <urlin2u> Guest68105, we have a script we use to show whats is where paste3bin the results.text  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[08:17] <cipher__> I am running ubuntu 11.10 and openbox. I am using gtk-chtheme (i also tried changing options through gnome-tweak-tool, and gconf-editor, by manually editing the theme value) and a few gnome utilities in an attempt to change themes. Very few programs register the chance: http://i40.tinypic.com/15wzcyx.png .... On the left I activated the theme, then proceeded to open the windows on the right to demonstrate the issue. If anyone could help
[08:17] <cipher__> me fix this I would be very greatful. I have been trying to fix it for many hours.
[08:17] <Emanon> I've been really wanting to switch to openbsd for a while but I just don't have the stones.
[08:17] <Acme> oks other question, after I ugraded to 11.10, I kept using gnome but I dont have all those fancy 3d desktop effects, and I have not have luck enabling them again, any link I could read?
[08:17] <cipher__> the change*
[08:17] <Pseudoephedrine> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:17] <Pseudoephedrine>  mysql-server
[08:17] <spartan7> Zujamulex: do you get bios screen?
[08:18] <Zujamulex> spartan7: almost
[08:18] <urlin2u> danny, how many partitons do you see if you open gparted in ubuntu?
[08:18] <Zujamulex> spartan7: yes, it shows post fine
[08:18] <Zujamulex> spartan7: OofR starts right when disk boots
[08:19] <cipher__> if anyone want to try and team view into my laptop and take a look, i would appreciate it, plus think of all the nefarious things you could try :p
[08:19] <Emanon> Most of us are fairly benign actually.
[08:19] <joeko> Hi how can I determine the source repository of a package
[08:19] <Zujamulex> spartan7, and?
[08:20] <Zujamulex> joeko: use synaptic columns
[08:20] <cipher__> Emanon, feel like lurking through my computer
[08:20] <Emanon> Won't find many nefarious people in the ubuntu helpchannel I fear.
[08:20] <joeko> Zujamulex, thanks
[08:21] <Acme> oks other question, after I ugraded to 11.10, I kept using gnome but I dont have all those fancy 3d desktop effects, and I have not have luck enabling them again, any link I could read?
[08:21] <Emanon> I mean it's not like we're in a backtrack channel. ;-)
[08:21] <cipher__> technoviking: http://tinyurl.com/4o5nvxh
[08:21] <spartan7> Zujamulex: thinking.
[08:21] <Emanon> Technoviking is the shiz.
[08:22] <hiddensoul> cipher__, that sounds like work, where do I send the invoice to ?
[08:22] <spartan7> Zujamulex: wierd you dont even get to grub.
[08:23] <Emanon> BTW what ever happened to the pretty grub screens ubuntu used to have?
[08:23] <cipher__> hiddensoul, you can contact us at Central Intelligence Agency, Office of Public Affairs, Washington, D.C. 20505
[08:24] <hiddensoul> lol cipher__
[08:24] <Emanon> It used to fit the theme but with the recent releases it looks like I'm booting up a commodore 64
[08:24] <hiddensoul> Emanon, my first PC was an SX64 now that was portable (NOT)
[08:24] <cipher__> My computers theme as well looks archaic now that 11.10 was installed
[08:24] <Emanon> First one for me was C128.
[08:24] <Zujamulex> spartan7: nope, looks like it passes grub, and kernel stage too, when it shows up again it's the moment where the kernel finised changing display resolution
[08:25] <Zujamulex> and i have dx2200
[08:25] <Zujamulex> so closer
[08:28] <Emanon> Is it weird that this early alpha live disk of 12.04 is more stable than 11.10?
[08:28] <cipher__> I hate 11.10
[08:28] <airtonix> suitable answer
[08:28] <Emanon> So it's not just me?
[08:29] <Acme> mm I have the same impression, 11.10 not as good as previous releases
[08:29]  * lotuspsychje likes ocelot
[08:29] <Emanon> Oh  man I have 33 gigs of ebooks to organize.
[08:30] <urlin2u> Acme, its hardly any differnt the natty just upgraded app.
[08:30] <hiddensoul> Emanon, I know that feeling, I have 2TB in the file server and I need to reorganise it soon so I can upgrade the harddrive, we are running out of room
[08:30] <arex\> are there any good tools for detecting and converting encoding/charsets of textfiles?
[08:31] <Emanon> 2tb of ebooks or just data in general?
[08:31] <Emanon> I like calibre,
[08:31] <hiddensoul> Emanon, data in general about 25GB ebooks
[08:31] <vagy> i just installed fancontrol but it seems it doesnt support reading the temp value from an arbitrary user defined source (like say an independant binary) but only from devices/platform/w83627hf (in my case of course)
[08:31] <Emanon> It works great for tagging and converting ebooks.
[08:32] <Emanon> I just wish people would stop making new software to do the same thing and just work on one program for each task.
[08:32] <vagy> anyone knows how i can deal with it? maybe making a fake device like the above that will execute a binary behind the scenes? where should i look at?
[08:32] <Emanon> Make one good program instead of 20k crappy ones,
[08:33] <Acme> I lost compiz functionality on 11.10, and my UI gets frozen often, that did not happen before
[08:33] <urlin2u> Acme, you tweak compiz?
[08:33] <spartan7> Zujamulex: the acpi didnt work. it loads grub and then  get a black screen. I can hear the music play though so I know it finished loading :(
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> Acme: there are good tuts for compiz on unity
[08:34] <Emanon> of course, it's compiz
[08:34] <circulardna> does anybody can help me?
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> !ask | circulardna
[08:34] <Acme> yeah, it worked before, I upgraded and stop working, I kept using gnome
[08:34] <joeko> Where does the language-support-en package come from?
[08:34] <cipher__> circulardna, I believe you were looking for #english
[08:35] <oleg> Hello
[08:35] <cipher__> They're very helpful.
[08:35] <connor_> Does Ubuntu ship with any sort of software firewall?
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | connor_
[08:36] <circulardna> my computer show this on the screen:''error:unknown filesystem grub rescue>"
[08:36] <Zujamulex> spartan7: oh
[08:36] <circulardna> how to solve that problem?
[08:37] <urlin2u> Acme, I have a compiz setup that s highly tweaked cube, and other cool stuff been using the same script of it since maverick with no problems.
[08:37] <joeko> in 11.10 the language-support-en package has a local origin in other versions of ubuntu the meta-package is in a reposiroty
[08:37] <urlin2u> Acme, I never upgrade though.
[08:37] <Acme> in what version are you in?
[08:37] <Emanon> Truecrypt should be mirrored on the official repos btw.
[08:37] <joeko> how is language-support-en generated
[08:37] <urlin2u> Acme, 11.10
[08:37] <Emanon> It's not but it should be.
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> !info language-support-en
[08:38] <Acme> oks well my best hope is I upgrade again to next version and it works again
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> !nfo truecrypt
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> !info truecrypt
[08:40] <sx_usr__> hi there
[08:40] <Myrtti> truecrypt isn't included in Ubuntu due to license restrictions, if you want it, it's fairly easy to install from the package on their site
[08:40] <sx_usr__> can someone help me with setting the NVidia to display 1920x1080 on my HP EliteBook?
[08:40] <Emanon> Oh is that why Myrtti thanks for the info.
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> !info easycrypt
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> !info cryptkeeper
[08:42] <Emanon> I hate licensing.
[08:42] <Emanon> It messes up all the good stuff.
[08:42] <urlin2u> Acme, I wouldn't upgrade myself, but I have all my stuff on a external, the computer just has 4 OS on it.
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> Emanon: whats the point of keep whining of ubuntu's evolution...
[08:43] <urlin2u> lotuspsychje, we have to wait for the meds to kick in. :D
[08:43] <Emanon> Maybe they'll get tired of whinging and fix something.
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> urlin2u :p
[08:44] <sx_usr__> anyone?
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> Emanon: your perception of fixing is not based on the reality
[08:44] <Emanon> sx_usr__:  You have the prop drivers (or noveau) installed?
[08:45] <sx_usr__> yeah
[08:45] <sx_usr__> Emanon, i have
[08:45] <sx_usr__> Emanon, but from the drop down list for Resolution, it's up to 1600x900
[08:45] <sx_usr__> Emanon, before 11.10, i can get up to 1920x1080
[08:45] <sx_usr__> Emanon, now im using 11.10 and i only get max resolution of 1600x900
[08:45] <Emanon> That IS odd. Have you checked the NVidia settings rather than the ubuntu display settings?
[08:46] <vagy> anyone really familiar with fancontrol?
[08:46] <sx_usr__> Emanon, yes, that's where i set it
[08:46] <sx_usr__> Emanon, where is ubuntu display settings?
[08:46] <sx_usr__> Emanon, i never use ubuntu display settings and i didn't know there is one....
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> vagy: anything to tweak in BIOS?
[08:46] <Akinari> hai.. need a little help..
[08:47] <Emanon> hit the meta (windows) key and search for "Display" or "Monitors"
[08:47] <Jokn> Anybody have issues with desktop sharing in 11.10? I can connect and see the desktop, but when I click on something it doesn't render on the remote session.  I've tried realvnc and tightvnc clients, both have the same issue.  I can see that the other PC is taking the input, the windows are popping up on the machine that I'm connected to, just not rendering in the client on the remote PC.
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Akinari
[08:47] <vagy> lotuspsychje: no , other than cool'n'quiet (but its irrelevant)
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> vagy: never used fancontrol sorry
[08:47] <vagy> lotuspsychje: ok man, thanx anyways
[08:47] <sx_usr__> Emanon, oic, i can see that, but the optiosn in there is still up to 1600x900
[08:47] <sx_usr__> Emanon, how can i "force" to use 1920x1080?
[08:48] <Emanon> No idea was just checking the usual places.
[08:48] <vagy> lotuspsychje: too much presupposition of you being a man, excuse!
[08:48] <sx_usr__> Emanon, okay, thanks for the help.
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> vagy: what you wanna achieve?
[08:48] <Emanon> Seeing if one allowed what you wanted.
[08:48] <circulardna> ''error:unknown filesystem grub rescue>"   how to desolve that???
[08:48] <Emanon> Good luck, maybe someone else will know.
[08:48] <sx_usr__> Emanon, yeah, hopefully
[08:49] <urlin2u> circulardna, this sudden or a ne install?
[08:49] <urlin2u> new*
[08:50] <vagy> lotuspsychje: fancontrol can read temp values from monitoring chips and adjust the fan speed of , say the cpu cooler...thing is that it doesn't support nvidia's internal monitoring chip...but i get hold of the temp value by running an nvidia binary... so i wonna feed this value to fancontrol
[08:50] <circulardna> after i install an WinXP SP3.gho...
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> !info fancontrol
[08:50] <urlin2u> circulardna, this a wubi?
[08:50] <circulardna> that sudden turn into that...
[08:50] <circulardna> nonono...
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> vagy: any scripts for fancontrol exist?
[08:50] <vagy> lotuspsychje: yeap, actually its lm-sensors that doesn't support nvidia's chip
 its the first time that i met....
[08:51] <vagy> lotuspsychje: they do but for other purposes...searched alot about what i need but couldn't find a hint
[08:52] <circulardna> urlin2u,have u met this before?
[08:52] <urlin2u> circulardna,  can't really understand your situation to be honest.
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> vagy: goto software centre: lm-sensors, there are few addons did you try them?
[08:53] <vagy> lotuspsychje: checking..
[08:54] <urlin2u> circulardna, full sentences and details would be helpful.
[08:55] <syddraf> Does anyone know why wget and curl would return junk data instead of the source of the website? I'm trying to get the html given by a php script on a website.
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> !info psensor | vagy
[08:55] <circulardna> umm,i want to install a windows xp system,so i run the WinPE and install with the Ghost,it seems succeed,but when i reboot my computer,the screen show this:''error:unknown filesystem grub rescue>"
[08:56] <circulardna> @urlin2u
[08:56] <arex\> syddraf: you can try and use file_get_contents instead
[08:56] <Chipzzz> syddraf: you're probably seeing graphics
[08:56] <syddraf> arex\: Is that a program or an options for curl/wget?
[08:56] <arex\> syddraf: php function
[08:57] <syddraf> arex\: The php file on the server isn't mine. I don't have access to it.
[08:57] <arex\> syddraf: oh, ok
[08:57] <urlin2u> circulardna, ah you probably need to reload grub to the mbr.
[08:57] <urlin2u> !grub | circulardna
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> vagy: Psensor can monitor the temperature of the NVidia GPUs (using XNVCtrl).
[08:59] <vagy> lotuspsychje: unfortunately psensor is for viewing the temps ... it is using the nvidia binary underneath to grab the GPU temp...thats what i wonna do but then hand this value over to fancontrol (so fancontrol is the s/w i wonna tweak here) ... but it seems that fancontrol cant be configured to accept the temp value from any other source than monitoring chips (the definition of them in fancontrol's config file is a bit weird , they read like
[08:59] <vagy> /devices/platform/chip_name_here/ which afaik isnt a canonical linux thing...or is it? )
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> vagy: not sure about that
[09:00] <xreal> is there a channel for mint?
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> !mint
[09:01] <xreal> ubottu: Thanks!
[09:01] <vagy> lotuspsychje: let me paste the complete line from fancontrol conf file, the one that defines the device from which it reads temp values:  "DEVPATH=hwmon0=devices/platform/w83627hf.656 hwmon1=devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:18.3 "
[09:02] <vagy> lotuspsychje: so i though to configure a fake device like the ones fancontrol uses and have the device execute my binary (the one that grabs the temp value)
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> vagy: maybe the conf file needs another line, but beats me how
[09:02] <vagy> lotuspsychje: but i haven't seen /devices/platforms etc be4
[09:04] <vagy> lotuspsychje: if only i could say "DEVPATH=my_binary" that would be perfect
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> vagy: we need lm-sensor freaks here lol
[09:04] <Chipzzz> vagy: you'd still be left with the problem of scaling the data so that your fan control would understand it
[09:05] <vagy> lotuspsychje: :-)
[09:06] <vagy> Chipzzz: the temp value nvidia's binary returns is already scaled, meaning its a real value that corresponds to the real actual temp, so i guess thats already solved
[09:06] <Chipzzz> :)
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> !info xsensors | vagy
[09:07] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, sorry for the delay. Ran the script and got the RESULTS.txt
[09:08] <vagy> lotuspsychje: xsensors is liek psensors, reads the value, displays it and so on...but no compatibility with fancontrol :|
[09:08] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, can you pastebin it?
[09:08] <vagy> lotuspsychje: i think i need first of all to realize that these devices are, the ones fancontrol specifies in its config file
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> vagy: maybe something to find in their conf file, you can use?
[09:08] <vagy> that = what
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> vagy: did you man lm-sensors?
[09:09] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, sorry, I'm new to Ubuntu. What do you mean by pastebin it?
[09:09] <urlin2u> !pastebin > michaelpfeiffer1
[09:10] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, copy and paste all the text then post the url
[09:10] <vagy> lotuspsychje: yea, and concluded that it doesn't natively supports nvidia's mon chip (at least in my 6600GT card)
[09:11] <DarthCaeduces> hola, am actually with a necessite for assistance configuring a webpage server. Can a person help?
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | DarthCaeduces
[09:12] <michaelpfeiffer1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/812830/
[09:12] <Chipzzz> DarthCaeduces: maybe we can... please be more specific about the problem
[09:13] <DarthCaeduces> am actually attempting to configure the home machine for the webpage server
[09:13] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, http://paste.ubuntu.com/812830/
[09:13] <Chipzzz> DarthCaeduces: have you installed anything yet?
[09:13] <DarthCaeduces> like what?
[09:13] <vagy> lotuspsychje: i will search further for what the devices of fancontrol are, thanx alot for your time!
[09:14] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, script looks like XP should boot you have a XP disc?
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> vagy: my pleasure, hope u find fix
[09:16] <Chipzzz> DarthCaeduces: "sudo tasksel install lamp-server" pretty much does everyting for you
[09:16] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, yes i do, however, I got this old computer from a friend about a week ago and decided to put ubuntu on there as I heard it was an excellent operating system. The hard drive was still in there and it happened to have XP as the OS.
[09:17] <DarthCaeduces> Chipzzz: you have a website refrence?
[09:17] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, I have a boot disk for XP Home Edition but this was XP Professional
[09:17] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz:  i tried sudo tasksel install lamp-server and it didn't show any output
[09:17] <Chipzzz> DarthCaeduces: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[09:18] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, if it was me I would boot the disc get to the repair and run /fixmbr to reload the MS bootloader in the mbr and see if it boots that disc will work for this.
[09:18] <Zujamulex> hey
[09:18] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: you can run tasksel from the command line: "sudo tasksel"... you can install a lamp server from a menu that way
[09:19] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, so just run the disk. Should there be a repair option or will it restore something?
[09:20] <Zujamulex> im looking for drivers for, hp evo dx2200, the intel chipset, ati radeon xpress 200, anyone can point me a place please???
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> !ati
[09:20] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, i will need to know which options to run so I can restore XP
[09:20] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, http://www.ehow.com/how_4891476_reinstall-xp-bootloader.html
[09:20] <Zujamulex> nono, that does NOT work
[09:20] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: Ok, thanks, that menu doesnt show a lamp server option, but it does show, other options like.. web server, print server, DNS server, ect..
[09:21] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, that should help, :D
[09:22] <Zujamulex> lotuspsychje: nono, that does NOT work
[09:22] <Zujamulex> so¡
[09:22] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: maybe they've changed it since I last used it, sorry... lamp used to be an option & tasksel set everything up for you
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> Zujamulex: did you install additional drives?
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> !tasksel
[09:23] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, you can also run a chkdsk /r from that same terminal if needed, it will need a reboot to run it
[09:24] <opalepatrick> In the middle of a project at the moment, so is it fairly safe to install the new linux headers, or wait?
[09:24] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: I just ran tasksel & mine showed a LAMP server... what version Ubuntu are you running?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> opalepatrick: what kind of project?
[09:25] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, when you mention terminal and chkdsk /r commands, I assume you are talking about using Ubuntu's Terminal?
[09:25] <urlin2u> opalepatrick, I think the latest in 11.10 is more more the same kernel, some have addressed having problems, worked fine here.
[09:25] <opalepatrick> Oh, a work project, lotuspsychje
[09:26] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, no the repair terminal on the XP disc
[09:26] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, you v=can't run a chkdsk from linux
[09:27] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, I will try to find the XP disk first and then I will follow the instructions provided above to reinstall boot loader and will report back if problem persists
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> michaelpfeiffer: you could also install ubuntu instead of using windows :p
[09:27] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, I am going to crash.
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> nite urlin2u
[09:28] <michaelpfeiffer1> ?
[09:28] <urlin2u> lotuspsychje, they have ubuntu XP just wont boot.
[09:28] <opalepatrick> thanks urlin2u
[09:28] <urlin2u> opalepatrick, sure
[09:28] <urlin2u> night all
[09:28] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, Is it late where you live? Sorry, I am here in Australia and have plenty of time
[09:28] <opalepatrick> morning
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> michaelpfeiffer1: i mean you could install ubuntu and never use xp anymore too
[09:29] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: good advice ;)
[09:29] <michaelpfeiffer1> lotuspsychje, i have ubuntu installed and am using it right now
[09:30] <Pseudoephedrine> hwo do i change permission of a file to 755?
[09:30] <theadmin> Pseudoephedrine: err. chmod 755 filename
[09:30] <michaelpfeiffer1> i got this desktop from a friend and they had the whole Microsoft Office suite on there (way too expensive for me to buy)
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: tnx mate, so many ppl got corrupt systems on windows
[09:31] <abe> hy
[09:31] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: i haven't run window$ in years & don't miss it a bit :)
[09:31] <abe> hello
[09:31] <abe> hi
[09:31] <theadmin> michaelpfeiffer1: It's highly unlikely it was bought then, maybe pirated ;) Anyway, LibreOffice works great, even better than M$O most of the time
[09:31] <michaelpfeiffer1> It is important for me to recover windows XP so i am able to use Office just incase LibreOffice isn't
[09:32] <michaelpfeiffer1> isn't what I need for certain tasks
[09:32] <cipher__> michaelpfeiffer1, then use google docs
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: same here, also i install ubuntu for older familly members, they never been able to crash their machine
[09:32] <cipher__> or openoffice
[09:32] <cipher__> or use wine
[09:32] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: lol
[09:32] <theadmin> cipher__: Openoffice and Libreoffice are the same thing -_-
[09:32] <cipher__> bah
[09:32] <theadmin> cipher__: Except LibO has more features and works faster
[09:32] <cipher__> ^
[09:33] <michaelpfeiffer1> You all have some good points there, however MS office wasn't a pirated copy and would be a shame to not use for free
[09:34] <endafy> how do I keep the Unity bar from autohiding it is getting under my skin
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> endafy: you have ccsm installed?
[09:34] <abe> where i can get the iso blackbuntu?
[09:34] <gusband>
[09:34] <endafy> no and it doesnt show up in software center
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> endafy: sudo apt-get install ccsm
[09:35] <abe> help me,,, where i can get the iso blackbuntu?
[09:35] <endafy> lol duh I keep forgetting about terminal thanks
[09:35] <theadmin> abe: That's unsupported here.
[09:35] <abe> okay
[09:35] <abe> thanks
[09:35] <abe> ^_^
[09:35] <endafy> E: Unable to locate package ccsm
[09:36] <michaelpfeiffer1> lotuspsychje, I also have other executables and programs that I would like to run on Windows XP that I can't run on Linux
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> !info ccsm
[09:36] <theadmin> abe: This channel only supports the official Ubuntu derivs, which are: Ubuntu, Ubuntu Netbook Edition, Xubuntu, Lubuntu and Kubuntu. Also Ubuntu Studio iirc.
[09:36] <cipher__> michaelpfeiffer1, I didn't realize microsoft products were actually purchased.
[09:36] <theadmin> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | lotuspsychje, endafy
[09:36] <michaelpfeiffer1> attempting to fix MS Windows XP
[09:36] <michaelpfeiffer1> brb
[09:37] <endafy> compizconfig-settings-manager showed up in software center but ccsm didnt thanks
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[09:37] <Pseudoephedrine> How do i uninstall phpmyadmin and so i can reinstall it again?
[09:38] <theadmin> Pseudoephedrine: sudo apt-get --purge remove phpmyadmin # Or something like that.
[09:38] <pp7> wtf, my cursor is not responding
[09:39] <Chipzzz> theadmin: that's it exactly
[09:39] <pp7> via trackpad
[09:39] <theadmin> Chipzzz: What is?
[09:39] <endafy> awesome thanks for your help that fixed it completely!
[09:39] <pp7> buttons work but cant move cursor
[09:39] <Chipzzz> "sudo apt-get --purge remove phpmyadmin"
[09:39] <endafy> also how do I install gnome 3 themes in 11.10?
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer obn an older laptop?
[09:40] <cipher__> pock it
[09:40] <cipher__> poke*
[09:40] <almoxarife> sudo apt-get purge xxxxxxxx
[09:41] <abe> help me,,, how to connect the two access points with a distance of 10 meters ???
[09:41] <abe> help me,,, how to connect the two access points with a distance of 10 meters ???
[09:41] <Chipzzz> I modified Alex Eftimie's system monitor applet to show network stats this weekend. Does anyone want to try it out?
[09:42] <UberDuper> I'm setting up an environment to network installed of ubuntu 10.04 on kvm guests. I'm using preseeding both passed as extra-args in virt-install and a preseed config file that the installer downloads.
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: sounds interesting but im on lowband mobile connection atm
[09:43] <UberDuper> I've got it completely unattended now.. but one thing I can't get working is setting multiple nameservers.
[09:44] <UberDuper> Using netcfg/get_nameservers=<IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> I just end up with <IP_ADDRESS> configured.
[09:44] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: i'm going to send it off to him during the week & it will probably wind up in his next release... I just thought someone might like a preview & I could use the feedback :)
[09:44] <Pseudoephedrine> Ok, so ive tried to re-install phpmyadmin and supposedly it work, but i try to visit the webpage http://my-ip-here/phpmyadmin and it is unable to resolve. Any Ideas?
[09:44] <UberDuper> Using netcfg/get_nameservers="<IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>" breaks the installer.  Using '<IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>' doesn't break the installer but I get no nameservers configured.
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: whats the package name again?
[09:45] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: you probably have to specify the port (i think it defaults to 10000)
[09:46] <Dixie_> hellooooooooooo out there
[09:46] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: indicator-sysmonitor - it shows cpu%, mem%, cpu temp, stuff like that in Unity's top bar
[09:46] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: how do i go about specifying a port.. I followed all the steps on http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-apache2-with-php5-and-mysql-support-on-debian-lenny-lamp
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> !info indicator-sysmonitor
[09:47] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: http://my-ip-here:10000
[09:47] <abe> ada orang indonesia gak disini ??
[09:48] <Myrtti> !id | abe
[09:48] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: it's in his ppa & on launchpad: http://launchpad.net/indicator-sysmonitor
[09:48] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: so if i am trying to access phpmyadmin would i do http://my-ip-here:10000/phpmyadmin
[09:48] <Pseudoephedrine> ?
[09:48] <abe> oke
[09:48] <abe> hahaha
[09:48] <abe> assalamu alaikum
[09:48] <tPl0ch> Hi, I am trying to get ubuntu to run on my toshiba laptop and I am stuck. I was able to get the installation going and successfully finishing with custom boot options (acpi=copy_dsdt, xforcevesa, nomodeset, vga=0). But when starting after the installation (with the same custom boot options), I am only getting to 'checking battery state' and then it hangs. And when sending the SIGTERM signal, it tells me 'acpi exiti
[09:48] <tPl0ch> ng' and shuts down. Is anybody here who could give me a clue on what to try?
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: tnx i like indicator stuff
[09:49] <Myrtti> tPl0ch: are you using a normal installation disk or the alternate?
[09:49] <mang0> How can I change the keyboard layout with xfce? I can't see the option anywhere :/
[09:49] <theadmin> mang0: Try axkb. XFCE has no default setting.
[09:50] <theadmin> !info axkb | mang0
[09:50] <theadmin> Bah
[09:50] <mang0> lol.
[09:50] <tPl0ch> Myrtti, I used the 64bit 11.10 installation cd
[09:50] <bal_> how to enable i bus
[09:50] <theadmin> !info fbxkb
[09:50] <Myrtti> tPl0ch: alternate or desktop?
[09:50] <theadmin> ...
[09:50] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: just "http://my-ip-here:10000" should do it
[09:50] <bal_> in ubuntu 11.10
[09:50] <tPl0ch> Myrtti, Desktop
[09:51] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: or "http://localhost:10000"
[09:51] <Myrtti> tPl0ch: if you don't mind trying again you can always try the alternative disc http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[09:51] <tPl0ch> Myrtti, that means installing again, meh...
[09:51] <bal_> Chipzzz: hi  how to enable inidian languge in ubuntu  11.10
[09:52] <share> http://www.penguspy.com/wolfenstein-enemy-territory/
[09:52] <tPl0ch> Myrtti, you think the desktop installation was flawed?
[09:52] <Myrtti> tPl0ch: oh, I didn't see you managed to finish the installation already
[09:52] <bal_> i need phonatical keymethod
[09:52]  * Myrtti gets another pot of tea going
[09:52] <tPl0ch> Myrtti, well, yeah, I did google for fixes in custom boot parameters, and it worked, but not for the finished installation
[09:53] <tPl0ch> Myrtti, I can't even post a dmesg
[09:53] <tPl0ch> Myrtti, when firing up, the system log initialization fails
[09:54] <bal_> how to enable ibus ?
[09:55] <bal_> how to enabe sicm in ubuntu ?
[09:56] <Chipzzz> bal_: I think there's an Indian ubuntu channel on irc. I don't know much about it, though, sorry
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> !in | bal_
[09:57] <bal_> i tryed there but not one available there
[09:57] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: thanks
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> :p
[09:57] <Chipzzz> Tea time for me too :)
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> have a cookie too
[09:58] <Chipzzz> crumpets, perhaps ;)
[09:58] <circulardna> sb. here?
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-cookies
[09:58] <bal_> lotuspsychje: thre is no one to answer
[10:00] <Pseudoephedrine> Where do i find phpmyadmin folder? I have no idea where it is saved
[10:02] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: Probably in /var but maybe in /usr/share
[10:02] <Dreaman> why ubuntu 11.10 with kernel 3.2 is fast away by the stable
[10:02] <rob_p> Pseudoephedrine: Were you able to get the phpmyadmin login page to load in your browser?
[10:02] <Dreaman> kernel
[10:03] <SUL> CIAO
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> !it | SUL
[10:03] <SUL> GET!LIST
[10:04] <Pseudoephedrine> rob_p: Yep sure was, but now i am not sure what username i am supposed to login with.
[10:04] <SUL> LIST
[10:04] <Myrtti> !list > SUL
[10:05] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: I think it defaults to your user credentials
[10:05] <Pseudoephedrine> rob_p: Im did set a password during installation, but was never prompted for a username. I have been reading about a file called config.default.php which is where i should be able to set or view it
[10:05] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: I have tried the default, but unfortunately it did not work
[10:06] <rob_p> Pseudoephedrine: That's good.  You're there then!  You might need to configure access for a user from the command line first.
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> anyone tested a 6G ssd drive on 11.10 yet?
[10:06] <Pseudoephedrine> rob_p: Ok i will try that now
[10:08] <Pseudoephedrine> rob_p: Ok got that solved.. Logged in now.. Would you mind if i poked you in PM to figure some stuff out? If your not to busy
[10:08] <rob_p> Pseudoephedrine: Yeah, as I recall I had to configure a user first but once I did that, I could log in to the Web interface with that username/password.
[10:08] <rob_p> Pseudoephedrine: sure
[10:10] <qwelegen> Hello I am using a modem that runs on WVdial, and my gwibber depends on network-manager, how do I connect my gwibber
[10:10] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: I just realized I've been thinking of webmin all this time... sorry
[10:12] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: Lol, no problem mate, got it sorted ;)
[10:12] <Chipzzz> :)
[10:13] <qwelegen> Anyone know how to configure wvdial connection to appear on network-manager on 11.10
[10:15] <theadmin> qwelegen: NetworkManager doesn't deal with modems, so you just can't, because, well, there's just no tab for it %)
[10:18] <a-saint> hello guys is there any ubuntu based linux for kids
[10:18] <theadmin> a-saint: "for kids"? Edubuntu maybe, not sure.
[10:18] <AlanBell> a-saint: there is one called qimo
[10:19] <a-saint> theadmin AlanBell thanks guys
[10:20] <a-saint> AlanBell thanks guys is ubuntu based?
[10:20] <Machtin> Why were there so many updates yesterday?
[10:20] <a-saint> AlanBell qimo is ubuntu based?
[10:20] <AlanBell> a-saint: yes (that was your question)
[10:20] <west> salut tout le monde
[10:20] <west> ya des francais ici .???
[10:20] <AlanBell> !fr
[10:20] <west> thk
[10:21] <a-saint> AlanBell yes exactly thanks
[10:24] <qwelegen> is there a patch for gwibber to use wvdial?
[10:24] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[10:24] <Umeaboy> I've been looking for help about a USB-adapter issue in 10.10.
[10:25] <Umeaboy> I can't get dmesg to show that it's recognized.
[10:25] <Umeaboy> I don't want to upgrade to 11.04 since Unity is implemented there.
[10:25] <Umeaboy> Who can help me?
[10:25] <Umeaboy> This is in a laptop.
[10:25] <AlanBell> qwelegen: no, and that doesn't make a heap of sense, gwibber just uses whatever networking you have available
[10:26] <jutnux> Some info about the adapter please Umeaboy
[10:26] <Umeaboy> It's made by Sandisk.
[10:26] <dns53-laptop> Umeaboy you could try a different kernel, there are packages built by the kernel team
[10:26] <Umeaboy> linus-kernel?
[10:26] <AlanBell> Umeaboy: what is it? a disk or something?
[10:27] <qwelegen> AlanBett: Gwibber displays posts but I can't post anything, can't reply or create new post. it seems the text function is disabled
[10:27] <AlanBell> Umeaboy: does lsusb show it?
[10:27] <Umeaboy> It helps you mount a SD-card in your computer using that slot.
[10:27] <Umeaboy> Nope.
[10:27] <Umeaboy> dmesg won't see it either.
[10:27] <qwelegen> AlanBell: Gwibber displays posts but I can't post anything, can't reply or create new post. it seems the text function is disabled
[10:27] <AlanBell> Umeaboy: so it is an SD card adapter, that shouldn't need any special drivers
[10:28] <Umeaboy> Right.
[10:28] <Umeaboy> I know it works fine in older kernels in other distros because I have tried it.
[10:28] <AlanBell> Umeaboy: you have plugged it in and put a card in and nothing happens?
[10:28] <Umeaboy> Yes.
[10:29] <AlanBell> qwelegen: ah, right, gwibber is asking networkmanager about the network status and networkmanager says it is down
[10:29] <AlanBell> this used to happen with mobile broadband stuff
[10:30] <qwelegen> AlanBell: Is there a Fix
[10:30] <dns53-laptop> Umeaboy you could potentially try a newer kernel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[10:30] <AlanBell> qwelegen: dunno, in firefox you can take it out of offline mode manually, not sure about gwibber
[10:31] <AlanBell> Umeaboy: is there something wierd about the SD card adapter, they normally just work
[10:31] <share> !games
[10:31] <qwelegen> AlanBell:Don't see that option, it is there in empathy but can't locate this option on gwibber
[10:32] <paperke67> wget
[10:32] <paperke67> quit
[10:32] <Chipzzz> Umeaboy: maybe the card is unformatted or corrupted... try seeing if fdisk, disk manager, or gparted sees it
[10:33] <dns53-laptop>   add  a /      /quit
[10:33] <Umeaboy> Chipzzz: Well, it worked a while ago in my Tab.
[10:33] <paperke67> Yes, I know. Typo.
[10:37] <Chipzzz> Umeaboy: did you unplug it without "safely removing" or unmounting it?
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer on an older laptop?
[10:38] <bkerensa> AlanBell: A fix is underway for 884671 right?
[10:39] <Umeaboy> No. I shutdown my Tab.
[10:39] <Chipzzz> Umeaboy: which tab?
[10:40] <Umeaboy> Samsung Galaxy Tab P1000.
[10:40] <Umeaboy> Why?
[10:40] <Chipzzz> Umeaboy: Ah... I thought you meant a tab in nautilus or something...
[10:40] <titi> hello
[10:40] <Umeaboy> Nope.
[10:41] <Umeaboy> I wrote Tab. Not tab.
[10:41] <Umeaboy> See the difference? ;)
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> oO
[10:41] <Umeaboy> Tab for me explains the short word for Tablet.
[10:41] <Umeaboy> tab means something related to windows.
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> what has galaxy tab to do with ubuntu?
[10:42] <Umeaboy> He asked.
[10:42] <Umeaboy> ;)
[10:42] <Umeaboy> He missunderstood what I meant.
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> if you meant Tab, it has no point discussing it here
[10:42] <Chipzzz> Umeaboy: lol... my bad... did you look in disk manager or something to see if it is recognized there?
[10:42] <Umeaboy> No problemo anyhow. ;)
[10:43] <Umeaboy> I've checked in fdisk, df -T, gparted.
[10:43] <Umeaboy> Nothing.
[10:43] <Chipzzz> Does it show up in lsusb?
[10:43] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: Yes, I moved the SD-card from my Tablet.
[10:44] <Umeaboy> Chipzzz: Nope. Just the card-reader itself.
[10:44] <Umeaboy> I wonder why Realtek makes SD-card readers as well.
[10:44] <Umeaboy> I'm so used to them making Ethernet-cards.
[10:44] <varegi> buon giorno!
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> !it | varegi
[10:45] <Umeaboy> Si
[10:45] <Umeaboy> ;)
[10:45] <Chipzzz> Umeaboy: sounds like the card is fried or at least simmered
[10:45] <varegi> Grazie
[10:45] <Umeaboy> I don't think so since it works in my Tablet.
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: can't u link up the tablet to ubuntu pc to browse?
[10:46] <ryannathans> can someone with wifi test a bug for me please?
[10:46] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje
[10:46] <Umeaboy> Maybe. ;)
[10:46] <Chipzzz> Umeaboy: Ah... perhaps the Tablet writes an incompatible format on it?
[10:47] <Umeaboy> ryannathans: What card?
[10:47] <ryannathans> Umeaboy: no particular card
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> i linked ipad2 to ubuntu with some lib...cant remember
[10:47] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: libncurses5?
[10:47] <ryannathans> Umeaboy: happens with my ath9k and rt2800usb
[10:48] <Umeaboy> WHAT happens?
[10:48] <ryannathans> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: don't think thats the one, you also needed it for sync with banshee
[10:48] <Umeaboy> OK
[10:49] <farrukhjon> hi all!
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> ryannathans: is that a linksys card?
[10:49] <ryannathans> lotuspsychje: no
[10:50] <ryannathans> lotuspsychje: ALFA networks and an aetheros
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> ryannathans: whats the wireless security? wep or wpa?
[10:50] <ryannathans> lotuspsychje: wpa
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> ryannathans:did you try WEP to test?
[10:51] <ryannathans> lotuspsychje: i will now, bbl
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> ryannathans: i had a bug with wpa on 10.10, it only worked on WEP
[10:56] <farrukhjon> folk i interesting key binding Maximize Horizontal and Vertical i find it and set some key combination but why its does not work when i need re-operation (minimize H and V ) by same key binding in Unity but its fork in Gnome Shell ? Thanks
[10:57] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: You can see here that the SD-card mounts fine in my Tablet: http://pastebin.com/nUD0embX
[10:57] <Umeaboy> So there must be an issue somewhere in Ubuntu.
[10:58] <Umeaboy> Which version of udev does Ubuntu use?
[10:58] <Umeaboy> Perhaps it's an issue in udev.
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: your sd slot in the ubuntu pc, you got the driver properly installed?
[10:58] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure, but I think so yes.
[10:59] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: if i understand the question, i think you'll find that the key bindings are different between Unity & Gnome. They can be changed in both shells, though
[10:59] <farrukhjon> and how set Auto-hide for Window Menu (up of bar) in Unity
[10:59] <Umeaboy> Otherwise I wouldn't see the card reader in lsusb, right?
[10:59] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: do you have ccsm?
[11:00] <farrukhjon> Chipzzz: yes
[11:00] <Fudge> hi when uploading packages to launchpad, i want to use a .install file to place a foile in usr/local/bin but suspect it does not exist in the chroot. is there a man page for .install files?
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: in what partition is your sd card? fat32?
[11:00] <Umeaboy> Here's my output for lsusb: http://pastebin.com/2r1K8d3Z
[11:00] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: if it can be hidden, you should find the setting in there. I don't know if it is possible, though
[11:01] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: Look at the first link.
[11:01] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: ... will look around...
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: i cant open up links atm only txt chat
[11:01] <Umeaboy> OK.
[11:01] <slaptman> what is another way of zooming in on the desktop other than compiz
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: you have gparted?
[11:02] <Umeaboy> Filesystem SHOULD be FAT.
[11:02] <Umeaboy> Yes.
[11:02] <farrukhjon> Chipzzz:  i think so ... looking around
[11:02] <farrukhjon> -))
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: maybe try another format like ntfs to test out if ubuntu mounts it?
[11:03] <cdb4> hey guys minor problem here: ubuntu boots up fine and everything but whenever i boot up theres no ubuntu logo, its just a blank purple screen. the logo only shows up for a scond after everything has loaded and then im taken to the login screen. any idea how to fix this so i can see the logo/dots when i boot up?
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> cdb4: your pc boots fast so it never hits the logo :p
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> cdb4: you have ssd perhaps?
[11:05] <farrukhjon> how is as called Top Panel in my Desktop in Unity, i need search by google
[11:05] <cdb4> lotuspsychje: hmm that could be the case. i recently reinstalled ubuntu but on my previous installation the logo+dots would show up fine so im not sure :/
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> cdb4:wich harddisk you have?
[11:06] <farrukhjon> where located power indicator, Network-manager and so on...
[11:07] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: OK, but other distros detect it fine.
[11:07] <cdb4> lotuspsychje: im not sure... kind of a noob sorry
[11:08] <Umeaboy> cdb4: Open palimpsest.
[11:08] <Umeaboy> You'll see hardware-info there.
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> cdb4: if your harddisk and computer are fast, you will never see the logo
[11:08] <Umeaboy> Otherwise install lshw if possible.
[11:09] <cristian_c> Hi
[11:09] <cristian_c> I installed Lazarus, but when I open it or open a project. lpi I got errors
[11:09] <cristian_c> the problem is due to not installing some components
[11:09] <cdb4> lotuspsychje: PATA, ata toshiba mk2035gss
[11:09] <Umeaboy> Install them then.
[11:09] <cristian_c> I downloaded bgrabitmap and I ran the steps to install the .lpk file in the package
[11:10] <cristian_c> I've compiled through its lazarus window reached by one of its menu, but after it completed the installation of the component it has failed and an error box appeared
[11:10] <Umeaboy> And what does it say?
[11:11] <cristian_c> The popup window says: 'The package bgrabitmappack does not have any "Register" procedure, which typically means, it does not provide any IDE addon. Installing it will probably only increase the size of the IDE and may even make it unstable. Hint: if you want to use a package in your project, use the "Add to project" menu item'
[11:11] <cristian_c> with two buttons: Cancel and 'Install it, I like the fat'
[11:12] <farrukhjon> guys!, help me, how customize top panel of Unity for its auto-hiding, so annoying it...
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> cdb4: i would not worry about logo booting
[11:12] <Umeaboy> Install then.
[11:12] <cristian_c> I have clicked on 'Install it, I like the fat' and another popup window appeared: 'The package "bgrabitmappack 5.5" has been marked for installation. Currently supports only lazarus packages with static links. The installation has real need to do a rebuild and a reboot of Lazarus. Want to quickly rebuild Lazarus?'
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> farrukhjon: install compiz-config-manager
[11:12] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: as of a month ago, there was no way to hide the top panel in Unity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89898/unity-request-please-add-a-way-to-hide-unity-top-panel
[11:13] <cristian_c> I clicked Yes, and I think it did not seem to have happened at all. But then all the lazarus windows have gone to freeze not showing more their content. Finally, the program is closed, but then reopened. But reopening continued to require automatic lazarus components despite I had just installed one
[11:13] <bluenemo> hi guys, do you know how i can join #ubuntu-live on freenode? i've been working with debian-live a lot and love it, now i want to check some ubuntu stuff out. it says its invite only, but i have my nick registered on freenode (or what was that again?):  Cannot join #ubuntu-live (Channel is invite only).
[11:13] <farrukhjon> lotuspsychje: i have installed already, bu i don't known how do
[11:13] <cdb4> lotuspsychje: alright cool. just thought i had done something to make it go away but i guess thats not the case. thanks for the help!
[11:13] <cristian_c> How do I understand something more? Did something go wrong in the installation of the component?
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> farrukhjon: like Chipzzz sais it cant be hide, only panel transparancy..you can autohide left panel if u like...
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> bluenemo: join #freenode and ask there
[11:15] <bluenemo> ah ok thx
[11:15] <farrukhjon> lotuspsychje: this self-deception so? :)
[11:15] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: if it's really that much of a problem for you, you can install the gnome3 desktop & hide any panel you like
[11:17] <Umeaboy> cristian_c: I'm not sure.
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:18] <Chipzzz> actually, i like Cairo-deck, which auto-hides & the left launcher can be hidden with ccsm... The top bar is fine with me, as I have indicators & stuff up there that I like to keep visible :)
[11:18] <farrukhjon> Chipzzz: i have installed Gnome Shell but there same program zombieing (for example empathy IM working by SIP/VoIP protocol)
[11:19] <cristian_c> Umeaboy, what?
[11:20] <SteM> hi all, after the upgrade to natty, the Firefox 9.0.1 does not store the bookmark !
[11:20] <farrukhjon> any case thanks for discussing for all...
[11:21] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: good luck, i hope you get it sorted out
[11:22] <Chipzzz> SteM: have you tried reinstalling Firefox?
[11:22] <Umeaboy> Gotta go.
[11:22] <SteM> Chipzzz: how can i do it?
[11:22] <Chipzzz> SteM: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install Firefox"
[11:23] <farrukhjon> Chipzzz: at least I do not have to dig into google :)
[11:23] <Chipzzz> :)
[11:23] <SteM> thank a lot guys, i'll test it
[11:24] <Chipzzz> :)
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: cairodock looks nice, but i hope they make left bar changeable to bottom one day..
[11:25] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: Ciaro is much nicer looking & more configurable... I'd rather have that on the bottom & autohide both it and the standard left side launcher
[11:26] <farrukhjon> and one question: it it possible call Dash panel (luncher ) only by key+binding not using mouse moving to left ?
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: ill test it out, ive had bottom bar for years in gnome :p
[11:27] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: yes but i don't remember the keys (they're configurable with ccsm, though)
[11:28] <farrukhjon> Chipzzz: i configured key but how disable mouse calling
[11:28] <ryannathans> the hole deepens inb4 sexual joke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885
[11:28] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: Cairo has a gnome-like mode in which it separates the launchers & provides an icon for each instance of the launched program
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: sounds cool
[11:29] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: it's really slick... i'm pretty sure if you tried it you'd be hooked too :)
[11:30] <ryannathans> can someone have a look and confirm my bug?
[11:30] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: sure
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> !info cairo-dock
[11:30] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: thanks
[11:31] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: waiting to hear about the bug...
[11:31] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: does that spam in dmesg look normal?
[11:31] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885
[11:35] <cameron> hi
[11:35] <ryannathans> hi
[11:35] <cameron> i got a new computer yesterday and want to install ubuntu
[11:36] <ryannathans> cool
[11:36] <cameron> but when i load the live usb it boots and lines are shown on the screen
[11:36] <cameron> and then it just goes to black
[11:36] <ryannathans> cameron: does the same usb boot on other systems?
[11:36] <cameron> i think its probably a driver problem but how can i install drivers if i cant access ubuntu?
[11:36] <cameron> yes
[11:36] <cameron> i tried a cd too
[11:36] <ryannathans> cameron: what hardware?
[11:37] <cameron> uh like graphics card or what?
[11:37] <ryannathans> motherboard/graphics card/et
[11:37] <ryannathans> etc
[11:37] <cameron> msi r6790 pm2digd5
[11:37] <ryannathans> cameron: personally, i'd try the alturnate install .iso
[11:37] <cameron> what?
[11:38] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: off the top of my head, i'd guess the wireless card isn't reinitializing correctly and consequently never reconnects
[11:38] <cameron> no, i've tried a different one
[11:38] <cameron> 10.10 i think
[11:38] <cameron> same problem
[11:38] <cameron> im using 12.04
[11:38] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: happens with both my ath9k inturnal wifi and usb rt2800usb alfa networks
[11:38] <cameron> gigabyte z68 x-ud3-b3
[11:39] <cameron> i5 2500k processor
[11:39] <ryannathans> cameron: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate
[11:39] <ryannathans> cameron: try the 11.10 alturnate installer
[11:39] <cameron> but i tried 10.10
[11:39] <cameron> and that doesnt work
[11:40] <ryannathans> the 10.10 alturnate installer?
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> cameron: did you remember what those lines say
[11:40] <cameron> no, they're litterally just lines
[11:40] <alkamid> how to move checkgmail icon from the bottom panel (the invisible one) to the top panel (near wireless/volume icons) ? ubuntu 11.10, gnome 3
[11:40] <cameron> like weird blue lines across the screen
[11:40] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: I remember having had problems with an rt2400 series pci card that had to be started from a cold boot in order to initialize properly, but that was a long time ago
[11:40] <fosa_> how can i pipe all of my recent commands that are in the terminal buffer into a file?
[11:41] <cameron> ryannathans: is there a direct download version
[11:41] <ryannathans> cameron: sure, one minute
[11:41] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: the situation does seem vaguely analogous, though
[11:41] <cameron> k
[11:42] <pierangeloxchat> who use toshiba ac100?
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> pierangeloxchat:whats your question?
[11:43] <ryannathans> cameron: http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download
[11:43] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: what do you suggest?
[11:43] <pierangeloxchat> i have problem with audio
[11:43] <cameron> ryannathans: what??
[11:43] <cameron> i dont understand
[11:43] <cameron> ive tried a 10.10 version
[11:43] <cameron> and it doesnt work
[11:43] <ryannathans> cameron: a 10.10 ALTURNATE installer?
[11:44] <ryannathans> cameron: alturnate installer is for people who have problems installing with the normal
[11:44] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: is it necessary to change mac addresses often, or can you just find one and leave it alone for a few days?
[11:44] <cameron> oh.
[11:44] <cameron> ok
[11:44] <Benkinooby> hi, i use ubuntu 10.04 and it's default open office 3.2.0 Currently i a writing on some important stuff (timepressure included) but there are some bugs in office that slow down my work. Would you advise me to download LibreOffice 3.4.5 and keep on working with libre office? or will it mess up my files or "overwrite" my open office?
[11:44] <pierangeloxchat> those who have tried to install Ubuntu on a Toshiba AC100?
[11:45] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: there is one network i need to access and it has mac filtering
[11:45] <cameron> ryannathans: there is no intel 64 bit here: http://mirror01.th.ifl.net/releases/11.10/
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> Benkinooby backup all your files first, after that its safe to install others
[11:46] <ryannathans> cameron: there is no such thing as intel64
[11:46] <ryannathans> cameron: http://mirror01.th.ifl.net/releases/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso is what you are looking for
[11:46] <ryannathans> cameron: amd64 just means 64bit, which your processor can do.
[11:46] <cameron> but i have an intel i5 processor?
[11:46] <cameron> ok
[11:46] <ryannathans> cameron: it's titled amd64 because amd invented it
[11:46] <cameron> oh
[11:46] <cameron> ok thanks
[11:46] <Benkinooby> lotuspsychje, i don't have the chance to backup now... so i'll not take the risk and stay with open office. thank you
[11:46] <ryannathans> cameron: just like 32bit is x86
[11:47] <cameron> yeha, why is 32 bit x86?
[11:47] <cameron> and 64 bit x64?
[11:47] <ryannathans> cameron: x86 is the arch
[11:47] <cameron> oh
[11:47] <cameron> ok
[11:47] <ryannathans> cameron: ARM is the arch for most mobile devices, for example.
[11:48] <cameron> ok
[11:48] <wonderland64bits> btw, when ubuntu will include its OS on mobile devices?
[11:48] <ryannathans> wonderland64bits: now.
[11:48] <theadmin> wonderland64bits: Since 12.10 if I recall right
[11:49] <oCean> fosa_: the  history  command will show your recent commands. Use  history > myhistory.txt  to redirect the output to a file called myhistory.txt
[11:49] <ryannathans> theadmin: orly? I had ubuntu 9 working on my mobile phone, it's ARM
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: really? that would be cool
[11:49] <fosa_> oCean, ahhh perfect thank you very much :)
[11:49] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: dunno... i think some software has mac spoofing built in but this isn't the channel to discuss that kind of software ;)
[11:49] <theadmin> ryannathans: (s)he's refering to Ubuntu Liquid.
[11:49] <wonderland64bits> but i mean to make contracts with mobile enterprises
[11:49] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: software like macchanger?
[11:50] <oCean> fosa_: welcom! Remember that, if you want to _add_ more history, then use  history >> myhistory.txt
[11:50] <ryannathans> theadmin: I see
[11:50] <wonderland64bits> cause i am sick of android java programming
[11:50] <wonderland64bits> i want C!
[11:50] <wonderland64bits> lol
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:50] <Jackneill> http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/2028113_460s.jpg
[11:50] <ryannathans> wonderland64bits: you can write C programs for android
[11:50] <ryannathans> wonderland64bits: you just need the right compiler
[11:50] <fosa_> oCean, ah nice tip
[11:51] <pksadiq> oCean: won't that again appends history from beginning? making the file huge and repeated?
[11:51] <wonderland64bits> ubuntu mobile will be C too, right?
[11:51] <CaptAnon> should be windows or gates
[11:52] <CaptAnon> Question is it possible to run graphical programs in any other tty then tty 7
[11:52] <CaptAnon> I assume that is what you call them
[11:53] <is_null> hi all, should a laptop last longer if i set 0.80Ghz or Powersave ?
[11:53] <butti> good morning
[11:53] <ryannathans> is_null: laptop or battery?
[11:53] <oCean> pksadiq: If you do this, you'll end up with redundant entries, well it depends on when you run the commands. Default HISTSIZE is 1000 I think.. but once you're beyond those, you can save again :)
[11:54] <is_null> ryannathans: battery i guess
[11:54] <CaptAnon> is_null,  I would guess powersave
[11:54] <ryannathans> is_null: assuming default cpu clock is over 0.8 ghz, etc.
[11:54] <ryannathans> is_null: yes
[11:54] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: i was thinking more like metasploit or something in that category... i haven't looked into it deeply but i think it can be done independently of the wireless card
[11:55] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: I'm aware of that kind of stuff, I can hack any residentual security wifi network
[11:55] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: and i'm still stuck ;d
[11:55] <is_null> thanks for the hints
[11:55] <CaptAnon> is_null,  you know to lower the screen brightness?
[11:55] <is_null> yes
[11:55] <ryannathans> is_null: that would be hellishly slow
[11:55] <ryannathans> is_null: 0.8ghz
[11:55] <is_null> i just do ssh
[11:55] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: *shrugs* then you're more knowledgable on the subject than i :)
[11:55] <ryannathans> is_null: thats fine then
[11:55] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: hehe ;D
[11:56] <is_null> 0.8 should give more time than powersave ?
[11:56] <ryannathans> is_null: I would assume so
[11:56] <is_null> thanks for the heads up
[11:56] <CaptAnon> Also it might not be worth putting on the lowest frequency because it may take longer to do the job and use more power because of that
[11:56] <ryannathans> is_null: i'd have my brightness down too if I were concerned about battery
[11:56] <CaptAnon> but powersave should use the lowest frequency anyway
[11:56] <ryannathans> that's also possible
[11:57] <ryannathans> either way it's better than using nothing
[11:57] <CaptAnon> What kind of laptop do you have is_null
[11:58] <ryannathans> Can anyone assist with a bug? I need it confirmed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885
[12:00] <RamtinA> hello what's the best bandwith matter ?i want to watch my total monthly bandwith
[12:00] <CaptAnon> *meter
[12:01] <CaptAnon> RamtinA,  I would like that too.
[12:03] <ryannathans> Can anyone assist with a bug? I need it confirmed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885
[12:03] <RamtinA> CaptAnon:yes
[12:04] <RamtinA> do you know what's the best bandwith meter ?i want to watch my total monthly bandwith
[12:04] <Gentoo64> RamtinA, if you use a router some can do it on that
[12:05] <CaptAnon> Sorry ryannathans  I can't help with that
[12:05] <ryannathans> naww
[12:05] <ryannathans> anyone here with a wifi card and access point?
[12:08] <tete_> is there a way to reinstall a package ? with reinstall i mean install the default config too? i made some crap in my postfix main.cf but postfix depends on lsb_core so a won't just do a purge as this would remove lsb_core too
[12:09] <tete_> something like: aptitude purge reinstall postfix?
[12:09] <LjL> tete_: no, but can't you just do purge and *then* reinstall?
[12:09] <tete_> LjL, hm maybe, have you ever done such thing? i'm a little bit afraid of that lsb_core
[12:10] <ryannathans> Jan 22 10:33:49 atomic wpa_supplicant[659]: WPA: 4-Way Handshake failed - pre-shared key may be incorrect
[12:10] <ryannathans> ITS NOT WRONG
[12:10] <ryannathans> FFS
[12:10] <LjL> tete_: if postfix *depends on* lsb_core, lsb_core won't be removed
[12:10] <FloodBot1> ryannathans: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:10] <LjL> tete_: it would be removed if lsb_core depended on postfix
[12:10] <Evolusion> hello - i have a problem with a webcam / lsbusb lists it, the loaded videodev module is gspca_main - but no application sees any input in /dev/video0 - in linux it works fine
[12:10] <Evolusion> any hints?
[12:10] <ryannathans> FloodBot1: go awa
[12:10] <tete_> LjL, thats what i meant ;)
[12:11] <ryannathans> I can't spell D:
[12:11] <Evolusion> i mean
[12:11] <Evolusion> in windows it works fine
[12:11] <CaptAnon> tell me
[12:11] <CaptAnon> If I was to tell some one my username and password and ip
[12:11] <tete_> ok got it, just apt-get install lsb-invalid-mta then it will remove postfix*
[12:11] <CaptAnon> they could log into my computer?
[12:11] <LjL> ryannathans: you should calm down and avoid caps for floodbot to go away :)
[12:11] <Gentoo64> CaptAnon, if you have ssh
[12:11] <Evolusion>  i have a problem with a webcam / lsbusb lists it, the loaded videodev module is gspca_main - but no application sees any input in /dev/video0 - in linux it works fine
[12:12] <oCean> RamtinA: maybe this can help you? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMonitorInternetTrafficTotals
[12:12] <Gentoo64> or something
[12:12] <CaptAnon> I do have that as far as I know
[12:12] <is_null> CaptAnon: dell vostro v131 (god i hate it, why did i buy something else than a thinkpad), it's SSD and has 8 of RAM
[12:12] <is_null> maybe there is a cool powersave feature i could use for the SSD
[12:13] <CaptAnon> ok, well ram uses power
[12:13] <Gentoo64> is_null, ssds are power saving by default
[12:13] <CaptAnon> waid
[12:13] <CaptAnon> wait
[12:13] <CaptAnon> 8 whats of ram
[12:13] <Gentoo64> kb
[12:13] <CaptAnon> you dont need all that for ssh
[12:13] <CaptAnon> GB I assume
[12:13] <is_null> 8G
[12:14] <LjL> tete_: anyway maybe "sudo apt-get --purge --reinstall install" does it, at least, it reinstalls without complaining here, might be worth trying next time
[12:14] <LjL> !enter
[12:14] <Richiie> Tjen
[12:14] <is_null> yes Gentoo64 i'm running ubuntu 11.10 on 8kb of ram, i'm hell of a hacker xD
[12:14] <Richiie> tjena har en snabb fråga om crontab
[12:14] <CaptAnon> if you are desperate for power I don't see why having less ram should not help
[12:14] <Gentoo64> :)
[12:14] <tete_> LjL, ok thanks, will try it if i have such a problem again ;)
[12:14] <CaptAnon> remove a few
[12:14] <Richiie> kan man köra en entry i crontab som följande,
[12:14] <LjL> !se | Richiie
[12:14] <Richiie> 5 4   5   */2  *   /path/to/script
[12:15] <Richiie> ops sorry,
[12:15] <ryannathans> anyone here with a wifi card and access point?
[12:15] <LjL> Richiie: anyway i don't see why not
[12:16] <RamtinA> oCean: thank you , i'm trying
[12:16] <Gentoo64> is_null, is the problem battery life or something
[12:16] <Richiie> Nah just wondering, it should work
[12:16] <Richiie> but if you are sure then im happy :)
[12:18] <CaptAnon> I can't really think of anything else that could save any power other then a dark screen, (brightness and colour)
[12:18] <LjL> Richiie: well there is nothing in man 5 crontab that hints that / in month wouldn't be allowed
[12:19] <oCean> Richiie: I agree with LjL, your example is correct
[12:19] <Richiie> ok thanks :)
[12:19] <g105b> I'd like to scrap unity from my setup, but not sure what alternatives I have... And what terminology should I use when refering to unity and its alternatives - are they "shells"?
[12:20] <Gentoo64> g105b: better off using another desktop
[12:20] <LjL> g105b: well, "shell" is correct. one alternative is GNOME-Shell, doesn't change the underlying DE
[12:20] <g105b> Gentoo64: what do you mean another desktop?
[12:20] <g105b> LjL: DE - Desktop Environment?
[12:20] <Nitronium> hey all :-)
[12:20] <LjL> g105b: correct
[12:21] <LjL> g105b: GNOME and KDE are DEs, Unity and GNOME-Shell are shells
[12:21] <Richiie> g105b: but you can ofc remove unity from your setup but then you will get the standard Gnome 2 desktop,
[12:21] <Gentoo64> nah it wont be gnome 2
[12:21] <LjL> or GNOME 3 depending on your Ubuntu version, more likely GNOME 3 i'd say
[12:21] <Gentoo64> or everyone would have don that lol
[12:21] <Richiie> LjL: if he runs 11.04 then he will get a standard Gnome 2 Desktop Environment :)
[12:22] <Richiie> tried it for my self to remove it and purge the unity packages completely,
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> !info gnucash
[12:22] <g105b> I'm on ubuntu 11.10 - just uninstalled unity, and I'm back to gnome .....3? The gnome panels don't have a right click menu like in ubuntu 10 like I remember
[12:22] <LjL> g105b: no, they don't. it sounds like you're now using GNOME's fallback (which is not GNOME-Shell)
[12:22] <LjL> g105b: no matter what you use, it's going to be different from GNOME 2
[12:23] <Nitronium> are there any people familier with local ubuntu repositories around? I have a quick question regarding 64 and 32 bit packages
[12:23] <Gentoo64> if you just want plain panels then xfce and lxde are normal
[12:23] <ryannathans> anyone here with a wifi card and access point?
[12:23] <fluxx> I got Ubuntu dropped in a VM on a ArchLinux host. Looking around for Spotify in the Ubuntu repos (I hear they are full of blobs apps) Was wondering if Spotify was there.
[12:24] <g105b> LjL: Is there some DE that doesn't really include anything? I'd quite like to just have my own choice of dock/launcher and install my own workspace switcher thing
[12:24] <LjL> ryannathans: i recommend instead of asking "anyone" questions, you just repeat your issue (not too often) in full
[12:24] <Gentoo64> g105b: openbox
[12:24] <ryannathans> My issue is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885    I want it fixed or someone to confirm it's a bug
[12:24] <cameron> WHY ARE MY INTERNETS SO SLOW
[12:24] <LjL> !caps | cameron
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> ryannathans: there you have it confirmed
[12:25] <LjL> g105b: i'm pretty sure you can do that, but i wouldn't know how because i've been using a full-blown DE for a long time now
[12:25] <cameron> two hours to download 700mB........
[12:25] <ryannathans> MonkeyDust: eh?
[12:25] <LjL> MonkeyDust: how so?
[12:25] <Gentoo64> g105b: by default openbox dont include anything other than window manager
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> what ubottu says, no?
[12:25] <g105b> LjL: what do you use, out of curiosity?
[12:26] <LjL> g105b: KDE
[12:26] <fluxx> cameron did you pay your internet bill. Just disable ipv6, often that fixes a bunch of issues
[12:26] <g105b> Gentoo64: that looks nice
[12:26] <LjL> MonkeyDust: he was the one reporting the bug.
[12:26] <ryannathans> MonkeyDust: it's not confirmed
[12:26] <Gentoo64> g105b: yeah just choose your own panel, file manager etc
[12:26] <ryannathans> MonkeyDust: that bot just reads out the link title etc.
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> ryannathans: at least it has a number and is known
[12:26] <ryannathans> MonkeyDust: I know, I reported it
[12:27] <g105b> Gentoo64: that's great - is there a good way I can remove everything else from my system or should I not bother, just install openbox?
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> ah :)
[12:27] <ryannathans> Is anyone able to help with/confirm this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885
[12:27] <Gentoo64> g105b: you might as well just install lubuntu, its not plain openbox but its similar
[12:27] <Gentoo64> comes with stuff
[12:27] <ryannathans> Gentoo64: hehe, the lubuntu website needs work
[12:28] <Gentoo64> :s ive never used it
[12:28] <bastidrazor> ryannathans: does your wireless access point have MAC filtering?
[12:28] <cameron> fluxx, no its always this speed
[12:28] <ryannathans> bastidrazor: no
[12:28] <fluxx> cameron are you using wifi?
[12:29] <cameron> yes, but its exactly the same when im not using wifi
[12:29] <fluxx> cameron are you dropping packets?
[12:29] <cameron> idk?
[12:29] <fluxx> fluxx try installing wireshark and you should see whats going on.
[12:30] <Gentoo64> cameron: maybe thats just your speed...
[12:30] <SteM> hello, after the upgrade to natty i've lost my firefox bookmarks and i'm not able to store them. I reinstalled it but it did not solve
[12:31] <ginofernandes> Each time you start windows crashes grub. And you can not turn on the laptop. Loading the bios and then laptop reboots. In what may be a problem and how to solve it?
[12:32] <ginofernandes> Operating system's windows xp and ubuntu 10.04
[12:32] <Nitronium> don't start windows! heh
[12:33] <ginofernandes> I need windows!
[12:33] <Nitronium> it sounds like windows is overwriting the boot sector, although it shouldn't do that just on bootup
[12:33] <ginofernandes> Yes you are right! And how solve this problem&
[12:34] <Nitronium> do you start windows through grub?
[12:34] <ginofernandes> Yes
[12:34] <Nitronium> which one did you install second, linux or windows?
[12:35] <ryannathans> Is anyone able to help with/confirm this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885   I'd really appreciated just a confirmation it's a bug
[12:35] <cameron> yes it probably is gentoo64
[12:37] <Nitronium> ginofernandes?
[12:38] <Nitronium> ah, pm, hang on
[12:40] <CaptAnon> Very important question how do I stop unity from showing files when I search for something
[12:41] <g105b> gnome 3 is as weirdly over-the-top as unity :/
[12:41] <g105b> trying to be a poor man's Apple
[12:41] <ryannathans> Is anyone able to help with/confirm this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885   I'd really appreciated just a confirmation it's a bug
[12:41] <LjL> g105b: everybody said that of GNOME 2 too, though
[12:41] <ryannathans> all i need someone to do is put a aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa mac address in the cloned mac address section and if your wifi dies i can confirm it
[12:42] <g105b> LjL: oh right ... I just don't know what I want (or rather what's available, and what I can do with what's available). I was pretty happy with gnome 2 back then, but I thought I'd stick out at unity
[12:42] <g105b> LjL: but too many problems with it make my day a pain
[12:42] <SpenserWilde> Hi all.
[12:43] <LjL> g105b: well everybody seems to be saying "try XFCE" to people who would like to stick to the GNOME 2 experience, so i'll go with that. there are one or two GNOME 2 forks, but i don't think they're currently available for Ubuntu
[12:43] <lizard2k1> anyone help me please.. i can not logout from system
[12:43] <LjL> lizard2k1: what prevents you?
[12:43] <SpenserWilde> What's the package name for zlib in the Ubuntu repos?
[12:43] <g105b> LjL: thanks for the advice
[12:43] <lizard2k1> i do know, i can reboot, turn off, but cannot logout
[12:43] <lizard2k1> *don't
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> SpenserWilde: type apt-cache search zlib
[12:44] <LjL> SpenserWilde: zlib1g
[12:44] <yeats> !find zlib | SpenserWilde
[12:45] <lizard2k1> http://pastebin.com/9aYcNdUi
[12:46] <anette> hi?
[12:46] <LjL> hello?
[12:46] <anette> can any1 help me with uploading my website
[12:47] <lizard2k1> LjL: can you help me?
[12:47] <anette> im using afrihost and ezgenarator and filezxilla
[12:47] <SpenserWilde> Thanks all.
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> anette: your question being?
[12:48] <anette> but after uploading it when i go to my site ownley the front page works and theres no pictures and the second page doesnt work
[12:48] <LjL> lizard2k1: i'm afraid i don't have any clue about that error. you aren't by any chance using Precise? because i've seen a report of that for Precise
[12:48] <ryannathans> Is anyone able to help with/confirm this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885   I'd really appreciate just a confirmation it's a bug
[12:49] <anette> iow i dnt know how to upload it corectly
[12:50] <lizard2k1> LjL: Precis?
[12:50] <LjL> lizard2k1: Ubuntu 12.04
[12:50] <anette> and ive tried uploading so many times now the list is full of files
[12:50] <yeats> ryannathans: you just reported the bug within the last 12 hours - give the Ubuntu bugs team a chance to review it ;-)
[12:50] <Koolderson> is it possible that the additional drivers for Nvidia cards don't support unity 3D, while not installing them actually does make Unity 3D possible?
[12:50] <oCean> anette: how is your an Ubuntu issue? Maybe there is help on ezgenarator forums or such?
[12:51] <ryannathans> surely there's someone here on wifi that can verify that putting aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa in the 'cloned' glitches out
[12:51] <ryannathans> yeats: I just want confirmation to know i'm not insane ;D
[12:51] <LjL> Koolderson: both should support Unity 3D, however there could be some cards that are not supported by the proprietary drivers, i wouldn't know.
[12:51] <lizard2k1> LjL: Precise - what mean this word? (english not my first language)
[12:51] <yeats> ryannathans: I'll bet there are few here who want to potentially break their wifi to confirm that :-P
[12:52] <LjL> lizard2k1: "Precise Pangolin" is the codename for Ubuntu 12.04. "Precise" literally means "accurate" or something like that
[12:52] <Koolderson> LjL: thanks, I'll keep that in mind
[12:52] <ryannathans> yeats: to fix it all you need to do is delete the mac from the box
[12:52] <Pseudoephedrine> Would anyone be able to explain to me or give me a tutorial on how to install a CSS template so i can use it with my webpage?
[12:52] <anette> ok if no 1 knows can some1 direct me on who to ask cos ive beeen trying for days now
[12:52] <ryannathans> Pseudoephedrine: how is that a #ubuntu question?
[12:53] <ryannathans> Pseudoephedrine: askin #css
[12:53] <LjL> Pseudoephedrine: that's not very ontopic for here i think, there is a #css channel that might be of help
[12:53] <ryannathans> LjL: ha! baet you
[12:53] <LjL> ryannathans: not on my screen :P
[12:53] <lizard2k1> LjL: my ubuntu is 11.04
[12:53] <ryannathans> Man i can't spell
[12:53] <ryannathans> LjL: orly?
[12:54] <LjL> ryannathans: we sent it at approximately the same time, which can well result in your screen showing yours first and mine showing mine first
[12:54] <obakfahad> guys....if i install alpha(precise) , is it will get 3 years support?
[12:54] <ryannathans> LjL: I'm aware of how it works ;D
[12:54] <ryannathans> damn ping!
[12:54] <LjL> obakfahad: right now, if you install Precise, you won't get *any* support. it's not released.
[12:54] <sumit_> hiioiii
[12:54] <sumit_> frn
[12:54] <sumit_> how to use irc chat
[12:54] <ryannathans> lol ^
[12:54] <SuperEngineer> The ultimate message to SOPA/PIPA advocates: listen to the first few secs of lastest Linux Outlaws podcast. http://feeds.feedburner.com/linuxoutlaws-ogg
[12:55] <oCean> anette: well, it's not on topic for this channel. Maybe start at the Support button at http://www.ezgenerator.com/howto.php?
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> SuperEngineer: wrong channel
[12:55] <oCean> SuperEngineer: don't post that here
[12:55] <LjL> sumit_: /join #test and make yourself familiar with it
[12:55] <sumit_> okkk
[12:55] <sumit_> so all you r hacker
[12:55] <LjL> !ot | sumit_
[12:56] <SuperEngineer> MonkeyDust: oCean  - boo! hiss!  [that was a Ttongue in cheek post - not meant to annoy, soz]
[12:56] <sumit_> can you suggest me any hackers community on irc m new to hear
[12:56] <Guest92294> hello
[12:57] <LjL> !alis > sumit_
[12:57] <LjL> !irc > sumit_
[12:57] <Guest92294> is this the place for ubuntu?
[12:57] <LjL> sumit_: i've sent you messages that should help you finding channels
[12:57] <LjL> Guest92294: yes
[12:57] <oCean> Guest92294: correct
[12:57] <Calinou> can't sudo apt-get update or sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:57] <Calinou> dpkg being occuped - nothing's on about apt though
[12:57] <LjL> Calinou: what happens when you try?
[12:57] <lizard2k1> LjL: i can not get select user gui, menu logout not working, other ways too
[12:57] <Guest92294> i never used IRC before can someone help me connect to
[12:57] <Calinou> "could not lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[12:58] <oCean> Guest92294: you're currently connected :)
[12:58] <Calinou> I tried to update stuff using the graphical update manager (ubuntu 11.10)
[12:58] <lizard2k1> other way is gnome-session-save --logout
[12:58] <Calinou> but nothing appeared
[12:58] <LjL> Calinou: does "ps aux | grep apt\|dpkg" show anything aside from grep itself?
[12:58] <Calinou> calinou   2345  0.0  0.0   4464   804 pts/3    D+   13:58   0:00 grep --color=auto apt|dpkg
[12:58] <Guest92294> trying to install ubuntu on mac but it is not working not USB not CD nothing
[12:59] <LjL> !aptlock | Calinou
[12:59] <Guest92294> any help?
[12:59] <meerkats> Im going to install yacy, for that i need to edit etc/apt/sources.list:
[13:00] <meerkats> where do I find it'
[13:00] <meerkats> ?
[13:00] <LjL> meerkats: in /etc/apt...? :P
[13:00] <LjL> meerkats: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:00] <Calinou> dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process
[13:00] <mintman> LjL: what exactly does this command show????  ps aux | grep apt\|dpkg
[13:00] <meerkats> thanks for the command LjL
[13:00] <lizard2k1> meerkats: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:00] <Guest92294> hello is this help for ubuntu?
[13:00] <LjL> mintman: it should show every running process with a command line that contains the words "apt" or "dpkg"
[13:01] <LjL> Guest92294: yes. be patient and if no one replies, ask your question again later.
[13:01] <yeats> !mac
[13:01] <mintman> LjL: ok thats a new terminal command for me thanks...
[13:01] <LjL> Calinou: even after doing sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock?
[13:02] <ryannathans> !macaddress
[13:02] <ryannathans> naw
[13:02] <Calinou> works, now
[13:04] <meerkats> what is the opposite of alt-tab?
[13:04] <meerkats> in unity
[13:04] <Calinou> shift-alt-tab...?
[13:05] <mintman> LjL: u couldnt simply reboot to stop locked dpkg package?
[13:05] <LjL> mintman: i don't think so
[13:06] <mintman> LjL: can u suggest what I can read to understand the process of the dpkg package??
[13:06] <LjL> mintman: not sure what you mean
[13:07] <lizard2k1> mintman: man and wiki?
[13:07] <mintman> LjL: never mind did a manpage to understand what the accornim stands for with dpkg
[13:08] <KenBW2> Is it possible that a DVD could play half successfully and then at some point need additional codecs to continue?
[13:09] <AFD> I can't boot after my laptop ran out of juice ... the error = "Could not update ICEauthority file /var/lib/gdm/.ICEauthority"
[13:10] <LjL> AFD: can you reach a shell?
[13:10] <mintman> LjL: thought we were to call a purge or a remove package to elimanate package problems?? why would the database lock?
[13:10] <AFD> ctrl+alt+F2
[13:10] <AFD> yeah
[13:10] <LjL> mintman: dpkg lock has nothing to do with purging or removing. dpkg lock is when dpkg is running, to stop other dpkg instances from running. if dpkg crashes, the lock stays.
[13:11] <mintman> LjL: got u had this problem yrs ago with ubuntu
[13:11] <AFD> LjL: I read online to remove the ICEauthority file but when I try it says there isn't one
[13:13] <mongy> AFD,  are you trying to remove ICE authority or .ICEauthority
[13:13] <AFD> .ICEauthority but as I say it doesn't seem to exist
[13:14] <LjL> AFD: shooting a bit in the dark here, but what does "ls -l ~/.ICEauthority" say?
[13:14] <AFD> LjL: "No such file or directory"
[13:15] <AFD> my /home/ is excrypted - this might be why(?)
[13:16] <mintman> I haven't seen soom of these problems except dating back to ubuntu 8.10.  I wonder with all these changes in gnome2 to gnome 3 and unity are causing conflicts. :(
[13:16] <mintman> soom = some
[13:17] <LjL> AFD: dunno, but that file should exist. i'm trying to find out how to regenerate it now.
[13:17] <AFD> LjL: thanks for the help
[13:19] <Cameron> ryannathans: how can i install the alternate version on a usb stick?
[13:19] <auronandace> !usb | Cameron
[13:19] <yeats> !alternate | Cameron
[13:20] <AFD> LjL: I can see my home folder ok using ls... the last time I got to a desktop I had the same error and couldn't see the /home
[13:20] <Cameron> auronandace and yeats, i have downloaded the alternate version but im using the universal usb installer and it's not finding the iso
[13:20] <LjL> AFD: shooting even more in the dark, but try installing the package "gnome-session"
[13:21] <yeats> Cameron: what do you mean "not finding"?
[13:22] <AFD> LjL: says it's already the newest version... also I can't reach the network
[13:22] <AFD> LjL: I might just hook up an exernal hdd and get my home folder backed up
[13:22] <LjL> AFD: well, the issue *should* get solved if you make a new user
[13:22] <AFD> LjL: then if I can't salvage things as they are I can reinstall
[13:22] <Cameron> YEATS: i changed the name to -desktop and it worked fine
[13:22] <LjL> AFD: so you could make a new user and then copy over everything from the old user's home directory
[13:23] <yeats> Cameron: good
[13:23] <AFD> LjL: I can't use sudo either - it says "/etc/sudoers is owner by uid 1000, should be 0"
[13:23] <AFD> LjL:  ok - I'll try making a new user
[13:23] <LjL> AFD: wut, something is seriously messed up here then...
[13:24] <LjL> AFD: does "ls -l /etc/sudoers" actually show you own it?
[13:24] <AFD> LjL: can't add a user without root
[13:24] <LjL> AFD: no you can't
[13:24] <AFD> LjL:  yeah I own that
[13:24] <AFD> but it's read only
[13:24] <AFD> owner and group
[13:25] <LjL> AFD: ok you need to reboot into recovery mode or whatever it's called these days (can always add "init=/bin/bash" to the kernel's command line), then you'll have root, and from there you can "chown root:root /etc/sudoers"
[13:25] <LjL> AFD: however, i think these multiple symptoms are showing there might be something *quite* wrong with your install, so... :\
[13:26] <AFD> ouch
[13:26] <AFD> ok
[13:26] <AFD> thanks again- I'm going to make the backup then reinstall just so I have a clean system
[13:26] <LjL> AFD: yes, i would probably do that
[13:27] <stavrosLinux> why is the name "ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso" ? isnt it comfusing since it also works for intel ?
[13:27] <LjL> stavrosLinux: "AMD64" is the generic name for the 64-bit architecture in these processors
[13:28] <AFD> LjL: should my external drive appear in /mnt ?
[13:28] <LjL> AFD: /media, generally
[13:29] <stavrosLinux> LjL what about x86-64 or intel-64?
[13:29] <LjL> AFD: but without your DE running, it might not show up automatically, in that case mount it manually
[13:29] <LjL> stavrosLinux: wasn't it as confusing for things to be called "Intel" when they also worked for AMD? :P it's just that this time, AMD won the architectures battle.
[13:29] <AFD> LjL: can I force a mount without sudo?
[13:29] <LjL> AFD: unsure, depends on your user's permissions, try
[13:30] <AFD> LjL: no :(
[13:30] <AFD> can't fdisk
[13:30] <LjL> AFD: fdisk you can't for sure
[13:30] <LjL> AFD: you could again reboot into recovery, but i'm not sure if you can access your encrypted home from there...?
[13:32] <AFD> LjL: I have an ssd in this machine that will probably be sdb1 right (?) so the external drive would be sdb2...?
[13:32] <LjL> AFD: no
[13:32] <AFD> I can't see it using fdisk so I'm trying to guess
[13:32] <LjL> AFD: those are partitions, not drives
[13:33] <LjL> AFD: if the ssd is sdb, then the external drive might or might not be sdc
[13:33] <LjL> AFD: (though when you try mounting you do need to mount the partition, so sdc1 or something)
[13:33] <AFD> LjL: ok - I'm gonna guess to try mounting it
[13:34] <AFD> "only root can do that" :(
[13:35] <AFD> I won't be able to alter the sudoers file without root either right?
[13:35] <LjL> AFD: no, you won't
[13:35] <middd> is this the place for Ubuntu?
[13:35] <LjL> AFD: only option left seems to go into recovery really
[13:35] <LjL> middd: yes
[13:35] <AFD> LjL: I'll try that...
[13:36] <LjL> AFD: again though i don't remember how to access recovery mode in recent versions, so if there's no entry in GRUB or stuff, just edit the kernel's command line and add "init=/bin/bash", then it should drop you into a root shell
[13:37] <oCean> AFD: LjL, for grub2 press <shift> to access grubmenu
[13:37] <AFD> I might live boot as I can't seem to get in to recovery
[13:37] <AFD> live boot and create a new user
[13:38] <LjL> AFD: i wouldn't know how to do that from a live cd myself.
[13:38] <oCean> AFD: why can't you get in recovery mode?
[13:38] <AFD> the ubuntu wiki says to hit escape to get in to recovery mode
[13:38] <AFD> but no option is given
[13:39] <oCean> AFD: that's old grub, grub2 uses <shift>
[13:39] <Pseudoephedrine> Any good photo editors for Ubuntu.. Maybe not with as many features as photoshop, but something i can change/add layers, change hue colors ect..
[13:39] <AFD> ;) thanks
[13:39] <LjL> Pseudoephedrine: GIMP, Krita
[13:39] <ssta> stavrosLinux: it's basically historic.  ia64 was given to itanium processors before there was an x86-64.  AMD had the first x86-64bit processors, and the name kinda stuck as AMD64 to differentiate between itanium.
[13:40] <chim_chim> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_therapy
[13:40] <chim_chim> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_therapy
[13:40] <oCean> chim_chim: ?
[13:40] <LjL> Chris_0076: err?
[13:40] <LjL> chim_chim even
[13:42] <Pseudoephedrine> LjL: thanks
[13:43] <stavrosLinux> ssta Ι understand, but I believe it should be clearer
[13:44] <ssta> stavrosLinux: lots of stuff should be clearer.  If you change the name now after this long, lots of stuff will be less clear