[20:52] <Vovk> raptorjesus, you realize ubottu is a bot right? ;) you can't talk to him
[20:52] <fiber> simplexio: does rsync use ssh to tunnel the data through?
[20:52] <coz_> Sammm,   go to  system/administration/users and groups
[20:52] <Sammm> so im wondering, how do i reset my password
[20:52] <raptorjesus> vovk thanks...
[20:52] <raptorjesus> lol
[20:52] <fiber> grawity: hrm, that is an idea
[20:52] <simplexio> fiber: rsync -avz -e ssh remoteuser@remotehost:/remote/dir /this/dir/   google gives me that line
[20:52] <grawity> fiber: yes, rsync usually goes over SSH.
[20:52] <raptorjesus> I need help adding another Device to my Xorg.Conf
[20:52] <coz_> Sammm,   click on your user name and go to Properties
[20:52] <Sidewinder1> raptorjesus> If no one answers in a few moments, you could always try http://ubuntuforums.org
[20:52] <raptorjesus> I need help adding another Device to my Xorg.Conf, at the moment I have my PCI-E card in my xorg.conf as my primary display and i want to use my Onboard VGA as a secondary display, they are both geforce and both recognized by the 180 driver but I think i have to manually add my onboard into xorg since i dont see it in there and i cant use NVIDIA X server settings to detect the display i have hooked up to it
[20:52] <lanzelloth> hacker, http://sourceforge.net/projects/mp3-duplicates/ looks good
[20:52] <fiber> simon__: grawity: awesome, thanks for your help guys.... I'll first try rsync then sshfs if that doesn't work!
[20:52] <coz_> Sammm,   or  open a terminal   sudo passwd    I believe
[20:52] <Vovk> raptorjesus, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:53] <Pirate_Hunter> simplexio: aparently if I do chown root:[user] I get permission denied while chown [user]:root will allow me to create directories, why would that be?
[20:53] <promet> raptorjesus, is your onboard video enaled in your BIOS settings?
[20:53] <raptorjesus> Vovk: what is dpkg-reconfigure?
[20:53] <raptorjesus> promet i will go check right now
[20:53] <basix> hi everybody. i'm running ubuntu 9.04 with all the updates. I'm using intel 4965AGN wifi adapter. I've been having trouble connecting to the wireless. Network Manager applet just doesn't connect or it disconnects after a while if at all it connects. I dont see this issue usually when there are few access points available. But in areas where there are a lot of wireless networks I experience this problem. I think its related to this bug in the intel iwlagn d
 river: http://bugzilla.intellinuxwireless.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1885 But I dont know if 9.04 incorporates this fix. I have already tried installing linux-backports-modules-jaunty package and it doesn't help. I'm running 2.6.28-15 kernel, Please HELP ME! This is a blocker for me.
[20:53] <Vovk> raptorjesus, auto-magic configuration tool
[20:53] <raeldenk> no one for how to disable the ACPI ?! :(
[20:53] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: The first one sets owner to 'root' and group to [user].
[20:53] <raptorjesus> last i checked i had dual display enabled
[20:53] <raptorjesus> in BIOS
[20:53] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: And a normal user cannot change owners.
[20:53] <raptorjesus> brb
[20:54] <sebsebseb> hi
[20:54] <simplexio> basix: you could try install custom kernel and hope that bug is fixed in it.. lastest vanilla is <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:54] <Vovk> Pirate_Hunter, depends on how you have the file chmodded. first one is user, second is group. if your file is chmodded 755 then group wouldn't be able to write
[20:54] <rgbargee> help im a newbie - i go to a dcc i recieve a rar file with a plain txt doc inside i just want to open it :( tried to extract it unrar it just when i extract its empty i dont understand what im doing
[20:54] <Sammm> i just found a another way to do whta i want now
[20:54] <Sammm> thanks anyway
[20:55] <promet> raptor jesus you might also try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" which tries to auto-adjust your xserver settings for current config
[20:55] <basix> simplexio, is there no way to get this patch from elsewhere without resorting to compiling my own kernel?
[20:55] <Sidewinder1> 1rar | rgbargee>
[20:55] <promet> You might want to Googlize that command a little and read the manpage first though
[20:55] <Vovk> rgbargee, what are you extracting?
[20:55] <shadowhywind> does anyone know of a way to run a script when the computer mutes/unmutes
[20:55] <Sidewinder1> !rar | rgbargee>
[20:56] <qq99> Vovk, it turned out to be a rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rule
[20:56] <Vovk> qq99, tricky ;P
[20:56] <qq99> that was renaming my eth0
[20:56] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, Vovk: oh I see so even if user stays as group it may not have authority hmmm really need to elarn to work with chmod chown seems to be lacking
[20:56] <rgbargee> its a .rar file from a dcc server containing a plain text doc
[20:56] <Vovk> Pirate_Hunter, chmod and chown are deceptively simple
[20:56] <Jan500> basix: i have the same adapter and it works fine here :D
[20:56] <simplexio> rgbargee: unrar x file.rar
[20:56] <Jan500> also 9.04
[20:56] <basix> Jan500, how many access points do you have there?
[20:57] <Vovk> Pirate_Hunter, 4 = read 2 = write 1 = execute. when you chmod, the first octet is the user, second is the group and third is everyone else
[20:57] <Jan500> atm one but there was also days >20
[20:57] <Vovk> Pirate_Hunter, you add up the numbers to get permissions, so 750 means owner gets read/write/execute, group members get read/execute/ and everyone else can't do anything
[20:58] <Pirate_Hunter> Vovk so it would be soemthing like chmod 421 root:user /media/etc?
[20:58] <Vovk> Pirate_Hunter, just remember when you chmod a folder, in order to "open" a folder you must be able to "execute" it
[20:58] <rgbargee> simplexio - wont accept the ( in the file
[20:58] <Vovk> Pirate_Hunter, also, you gotta be able to read in order to execute i think ;)
[20:58] <grawity> Vovk: yep
[20:58] <Vovk> Pirate_Hunter, it would be more like 755
[20:59] <Vovk> Pirate_Hunter, or if you don't want to worry about permissions AT ALL, 777
[20:59] <Vovk> Pirate_Hunter, that's dangerous tho >.<
[21:00] <Flannel> Vovk, Pirate_Hunter: use +X for setting directory execution stuff
[21:00] <Vovk> Flannel, you can also do that... for some reason, i like knowing the exact numbers... tho yeah, using +X will make sure you don
[21:00] <Vovk> 't fubar anything
[21:00] <Vovk> >.< that was supposed to be aimed at Pirate_Hunter
[21:01] <simplexio> rgbargee: unrar x 'file().rar' could work too , i usually just do unrar x *.rar
[21:02] <Vovk> Pirate_Hunter, so your entire command would be chown root:<whatever group> /file/path && chmod 750 /file/path
[21:02] <Pirate_Hunter> Vovk, Flannel, grawity: I am going to have to revise chmod again the only time I looked at it was when I moved into linux. This time things should go smoother
[21:02] <badboy_> Guys I have a big problem. I was updateing ubuntu, and for some reasons, the pc rebooted. Now I can't log in as it freezes. Is there a safe mode to repair?
[21:02] <Vovk> !chmod | Pirate_Hunter
[21:02] <Vovk> !chown | Pirate_Hunter
[21:02] <simplexio> badboy_: yep. hit esc when "GRUB" come to screen and select repair mode
[21:02] <Sidewinder1> badboy_>Have you tried to boot to Live CD?
[21:02] <Vovk> LAWL there's nothing for chown
[21:03] <rgbargee> syntax error unexpected token
[21:03] <Pirate_Hunter> Vovk: thanks will look at it
[21:03] <badboy_> Thanks chaps
[21:03] <Sidewinder1> badboy_> simplexio's idea is better
[21:04] <Vovk> Does changing the name of a file change it's checksum?
[21:04] <badboy_> cheers
[21:04] <Vovk> its checksum*
[21:04] <trism> Vovk: it shouldn't
[21:04] <fbianconi> Vovk: no
[21:04] <Vovk> cool
[21:04] <lanzelloth> badboy_, is it displaying garbage on the top of the screen when you boot ubuntu?
[21:04] <Vovk> thx
[21:05] <russ> Hello can someone help me with a wireless configuration problem?
[21:05] <badboy_> no
[21:05] <fbianconi> !ask | russ
[21:05] <badboy_> pressing esc , I do not get repair menu
[21:06] <badboy_> Ok I recovery menu
[21:06] <russ> fbianconi my wireless interface was working and I'm not sure what I did to stop it, but the "Network Connection: eth1" icon in the system tray shows it as disconnected
[21:07] <Zuk1> all right. i can't get my pidgin buddy list to open now...
[21:07] <rgbargee> i tried typin this  in the terminal ---      unrar x vps.2009-09-04(1830).rar   but i got the reply bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' obviously it didnt open what should i do next
[21:08] <Sidewinder1> russ>Did you try rebooting your wireless router, then rebooting ubuntu?
[21:08] <Spike1506> rgbargee, you cant use (
[21:08] <trism> rgbargee: quote it first
[21:08] <Spike1506> rgbargee, use \'s in front of ( and )
[21:08] <russ> I rebooted ubuntu several times, and the wireless router is working because other computers in the local net are connecting through it
[21:08] <simplexio> rgbargee: you need to quote it
[21:09] <Zuk1> how do i open the pidgin buddy list?
[21:09] <trism> russ: is the interface listed in iwconfig?
[21:09] <simplexio> rgbargee: unrar x vps.2009-09-05\(1830\).rar
[21:09] <Sidewinder1> russ>hmmm...by me, sorry
[21:09] <vede> Um... Okay.
[21:10] <badboy_> Guys, even recovery mode repair broken package did not work :(, shall I used the Live CD to try to repair?
[21:10] <mdg> hello!
[21:10] <rixtr66> how do i shut down pulse audio?
[21:10] <russ> trism yet, it also correscly lists the essid
[21:10] <lanzelloth> badboy_, what's your video card?
[21:10] <russ> trism yes, it also correctly lists the essid
[21:10] <badboy_> Nvidia GTX 260
[21:10] <trism> russ: perhaps it is just not correctly configured?
[21:10] <trism> russ: might try reconfiguring it in the network manager
[21:10] <ubuntu_> hey guys
[21:11] <ubuntu_> anyone can help my hd detection issue?
[21:11] <Sidewinder1> !hi | mdg
[21:11] <badboy_> It has Nividia 2 GTX 260 graphic cards
[21:11] <mdg> Brian___: Are you the autokey Brian___ ?  If so, what did you decide to do
[21:11] <rgbargee> i tried typin this  in the terminal ---      unrar x vps.2009-09-04\'s(1830\'s).rar   but i got the same reply bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[21:12] <badboy_> It was working perfectly fine, while updating ubuntu the Pc rebooted?
[21:12] <lanzelloth> russ, also the network manager applet is annoying, sometimes when you have to change the settings of a connection profile it keeps ignoring the changes when connecting and/or make another connection profile with the same name
[21:12] <c`mon> ola buenas
[21:13] <lanzelloth> !hi | ubottu
[21:13] <bastid_raZor> rgbargee: use tab completion.. unrar x vps <-- hit tab  after typing the s
[21:13] <lanzelloth> i had to try that
[21:13] <rixtr66> hi all!
[21:13] <vede> How do I "exit the X server"?
[21:13] <zkoss> you were missing a backslash xd
[21:13] <russ> trism i am currently connected via wired coneection, but when I booted without the ethernet cable plugged in, the "wireless" icon kept circling continuously (i.e. it was trying to connect) and it kept repeatedly asking me for the network key, which I kept giving it to no effect
[21:13] <trism> rgbargee: or just quote it, unrar x "vps.2009-09-04's(1830's).rar"
[21:13] <zkoss> but with tab-completiiotn you'll do fine
[21:14] <c`mon> q?
[21:14] <vede> I'm trying to install video drivers, but it says I have to exit the X server to install it.
[21:14] <raeldenk> vede, Ctrl+Alt + bkspace
[21:14] <lanzelloth> russ, did you change the network encryption key/settings recently?
[21:14] <zkoss> vede ctrl+alt+1 - login and then /etc/init.d/gdm stop as root
[21:14] <trism> russ: I have no end of problems with the network manager, so not really sure what to say, I configure my card directly in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:15] <vede> zkoss, I have no idea what that means.
[21:15] <teehee> anybody know of any good video to dvd converters other then avidemux2 and devede
[21:15] <vede> Wait, I think I might get it...
[21:16] <lanzelloth> russ, or wicd is a good alternative
[21:16] <trism> russ: you can try to connect manually before you set anything up using iwconfig if you use no encryption or the useless wep or use wpa_supplicant to connect using wpa encryption
[21:16] <aj_444> how do I install this: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/glassy+panels?content=62389
[21:16] <rgbargee> tried tab completion unrar ran but failed doh!
[21:16] <bastid_raZor> rgbargee: rename the file.. mv vps<- hit tab there.. so mv vpsTAB vps.rar
[21:16] <zkoss> vede: press and hold the keys ctrl+alt+f1, then login as root and type /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[21:17] <bastid_raZor> zkoss: login as normal user then use sudo.. root login is a bad idea
[21:17] <bastid_raZor> vede: ^^
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> aj_444:  read/do what it says under 'install' ? its just a collection of images to use as your background setting in your panel
[21:18] <isi> does somebody know if there's something like gpu scaling in fglrx?
[21:18] <Pirate_Hunter> can anyone tell me if by default when installing rtorrent from the repo does it enable xmlrpc?
[21:18] <russ> lanzelloth, trism I have found the network manager unreliable and was unwilling to change it. But I just tried manually setting it up and it showed a "check" in the box so I guess that worked ... but the "Network Connection" icon still says no connection
[21:19] <zkoss> vede: press and hold the keys ctrl+alt+f1, then type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" ^^
[21:19] <lanzelloth> russ, that checkmark besides 'enable wireless' simply means the wireless card is turned on
[21:19] <rgbargee> bastid_razor says target is not a directory
[21:20] <Wall975> is there anyone that can help?
[21:20] <bastid_raZor> rgbargee: pastebin ls -al of the current directory you are in.
[21:20] <bastid_raZor> !pastebin | rgbargee
[21:20] <Wall975> hello
[21:21] <rakesh> how i can use yahoo messenger
[21:21] <aigy> !ask | Wall975
[21:21] <russ> lanzelloth, trism I guess I will have to reboot to figure out if it worked
[21:22] <bastid_raZor> rakesh: use pidgin for !Y ?
[21:22] <durt> !pidgin > rakesh
[21:22] <trism> russ: good luck
[21:22] <PReDiToR> I've just installed Ubuntu and have no sound. The module is loaded but aplay says there is no card. Any help please?
[21:23] <russ> lanzelloth, trism but here is an underlying question for you ... how do you tell the machine to refresh your dhcp lease without rebooting? (the equivalent of "ipconfig/renew" in windows)?
[21:23] <aigy> PReDiToR-> try speaker-test   thats about to the extent i know about sound
[21:23] <eklo> I've installed adobe reader to ubuntu 9.04 x64, but it won't start
[21:24] <russ> lanzelloth, trism I was trying to find a way to do that and typed the command "ifdown eth1 --force" and I think that is what broke it
[21:24] <lanzelloth> russ, I thought it depends on the router, and I thought yours isn't a network problem
[21:25] <lanzelloth> russ, oh, did you try ifup eth1 ?
[21:25] <trism> russ: you could add -v to that to see what it's doing, then do an ifup to bring it back
[21:25] <lanzelloth> russ, i've never used ifup/ifdown so you might wanna read up on the man pages
[21:25] <Linux> hi.. can I install and run KDE on ubuntu 9.04 ?
[21:25] <russ> lanzelloth, yes I did, but no luck - the interface shows no ip address assigned
[21:25] <alechiko> any people here with ps3/linux experience?
[21:25] <Linux> s
[21:25] <trism> russ: ifup/ifdown is really for when you configured with /etc/network/interfaces though
[21:25] <rgbargee> pk i pasted it -- i think? @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/265749/
[21:26] <trism> russ: network manager kind of side-steps that stuff, which causes me problems so I don't use it
[21:26] <bastid_raZor> Linux: install kubuntu-desktop then at the login choose KDE as your session. login
[21:26] <n8tuser> russ-> you have good cables?
[21:26] <russ> lanzelloth, trism according to the manpage "ifdown eth1" is just shorthand for "ifconfig eth1 down"
[21:27] <Linux> bastid_raZor, and I need to choose KDE everytime I restart my computer ?
[21:27] <worm> how do i know which wifi driver is used please ?
[21:27] <bastid_raZor> Linux: you have the option in there to choose KDE as default and it will do it everytime for you.
[21:27] <russ> trism so what does it need to say in /etc/network/interfaces"?
[21:27] <trism> russ: man interfaces
[21:27] <Linux> ok, I will try. thanks :)
[21:27] <bastid_raZor> rgbargee: okay type mv vadiTAB vadi.rar
[21:28] <trism> russ: that'll give you all the details on how to configure your card with it
[21:28] <ubuntu1> im having issues installing some drivers. for my net card and im REALLY confused/.
[21:28] <Jan500> lp
[21:28] <lanzelloth> russ, it's just that the network-manager gui is problematic sometimes
[21:28] <russ> lanzelloth, trism ok guys thanks for the help, I am going to reboot this puppy now and see what happens
[21:28] <mdg> ubuntu1: what kind of card?
[21:28] <n8tuser> ubuntu1-> which nic card? what seems the problem?
[21:28] <bastid_raZor> rgbargee: and use ls instead of dir...
[21:29] <bastid_raZor> rgbargee: once you do this pastebin the output of ls -al
[21:29] <rgbargee> what is ls ?
[21:29] <thatsit> hello all
[21:29] <Linux> bastid_raZor, I have autologin at startup, where I can set all that u said ? :-\
[21:30] <simplexio> rgbargee: list files, does same as dir in win
[21:30] <rapt0rjezuz> ok
[21:30] <bastid_raZor> Linux: login window.. System>Admin>Login Window
[21:30] <rapt0rjezuz> i can now see both displays
[21:30] <Linux> ok bastid_raZor, thanks very much. :)
[21:31] <bastid_raZor> Linux: good luck and enjoy Kubuntu
[21:31] <Linux> thanks bastid_raZor :)
[21:31] <rgbargee> i now have a new rar folder
[21:32] <bastid_raZor> rgbargee: folder?
[21:32] <tyler> /sbin/installkernel: 60: cannot create /boot/vmlinuz-<IP_ADDRESS>-rt16: Permission denied
[21:32] <EDinNY> owen1 looks like flash.  works here
[21:32] <tyler> .... did I just waste all that time for nothing>
[21:32] <bastid_raZor> rgbargee: will you pastebin the output of ls -al
[21:32] <simplexio> tyler: sudo
[21:32] <Guest96851> So I just wasted all that time for nothing..?
[21:32] <Lyra> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could advise me on an issue I'm having. I'm trying to figure out how to manually set the cpu fan to circumvent the overheating issue with laptops in jaunty. Can anyone help me out? I'm not sure what all information I need to post.
[21:32] <rgbargee> is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/265753/
[21:32] <EDinNY> try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:33] <bastid_raZor> rgbargee: cd vadi.rar
[21:33] <bastid_raZor> rgbargee: please do a ls -al  .. the -al is important.
[21:33] <Nicky__> does ex3 have a mft
[21:33] <lanzelloth> how do I remount everything in fstab?
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> lanzelloth:  sudo mount -a
[21:34] <bastid_raZor> lanzelloth: sudo mount -a
[21:34] <ErikaSw> I have now got python runnng and compiling emesene right.Now, how to edit emesene GUI ?
[21:34] <lanzelloth> roger roger
[21:34] <tyler_> Sorry back
[21:34] <tyler_> anyway I did sudo, and its still saying cannot move
[21:34] <jiohdi>  I have my settings for left handed mouse... but when it starts it is acting right handed.... I have to manually change it to right and then back to left for it to work, what up with that?
[21:34] <tyler_> /sbin/installkernel: 60: cannot create /boot/vmlinuz-<IP_ADDRESS>-rt16: Permission denied
[21:34] <tyler_> So im not sure what to do now..
[21:35] <n8tuser> jiohdi-> where did you set it to make it left handed style?
[21:35] <jiohdi> system> settings> mouse
[21:35] <tyler_> http://wiki.fragaholics.de/index.php/EN:Linux_Kernel_Optimization
[21:35] <tyler_> Im at the make && maake install modules_install
[21:35] <tyler_> but its erroring and giving me these errors
[21:35] <rgbargee> says not a directory is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/265756/
[21:35] <tyler_> sh /home/tyler/lolkernel/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/arch/x86/boot/install.sh <IP_ADDRESS>-rt16 arch/x86/boot/bzImage System.map "/boot"
[21:36] <Lyra> Dos anybody know anything about the issue with laptops overheating in Jaunty?
[21:36] <tyler_> /sbin/installkernel: 60: cannot create /boot/vmlinuz-<IP_ADDRESS>-rt16: Permission denied
[21:36] <Lyra> Does*
[21:36] <tyler_> "Install error 2"
[21:36] <n8tuser> jiohdi-> you may have to insert the xmodmap command in your .bashrc or .xsession,
[21:36] <alechiko> any people here with ps3/linux experience?
[21:36] <simplexio> tyler_: use sudo sh install.sh
[21:36] <tyler_> simplex: there is no install.sh..?
[21:36] <bastid_raZor> rgbargee: becuase it is NOT a directory. now unrar the new vadi.rar file.
[21:36] <simplexio> tyler_: /home/tyler/lolkernel/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/arch/x86/boot/install.sh
[21:36] <tyler_> Simplexio: no install.sh.
[21:36] <jiohdi> n8tuser, one more time in english :) I dont know about that stuff, that is why  I use ubuntu ;)
[21:37] <Nicky__> does ex3 have a mft
[21:37] <n8tuser> jiohdi-> man xmodmap
[21:37] <tyler_> Simplex:  *** Missing file:
[21:37] <tyler_>  *** You need to run "make" before "make install".
[21:37] <simplexio> Nicky__: not familiar with mft, i know what mbr means, but what mft
[21:37] <tyler_> Simplexio: And I did this already.
[21:37] <lucarg> hey guys! how do i delete syslinux from a pendrive?
[21:37] <trism> tyler_: I usually just copy the kernel, sudo cp arch/x86/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-<IP_ADDRESS>-custom, same with System.map and then edit grub to use the kernel
[21:38] <tyler_> Trism: Hey! Nice to see you here again
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> lucarg:  remove the ldsys.??? file i think from the pendrive
[21:38] <tyler_> Trism: I'm supposed to copy over the vmlinux correct?
[21:38] <simplexio> tyler_: better way to compile new kernel is google kernel ubuntu way, select first link.. it show howto make .deb from new kernel, then install it by dpkg -i file.deb
[21:38] <rgbargee> failed is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/265758/
[21:38] <lucarg> Dr_Willis: ive format it but cant delete syslinux
[21:38] <trism> tyler_: I wouldn't overwrite a working kernel
[21:39] <Pirate_Hunter> am I able to run apache & php on an old compaq presario 5410 with around or less than 128mb runing a minimal install of ubuntu?
[21:39] <tyler_> Trism: I customized the kernel, so I probably have to. But I haven't really done this before either..
[21:39] <alexidoia> hi there is there a package for jack2 ?
[21:39] <simplexio> Pirate_Hunter: yes..
[21:39] <trism> tyler_: you don't have to, just create a new entry in grub
[21:39] <jiohdi> n8, that manual is about keyboard mapping, I saw word zero about left handed mice
[21:39] <Lyra> I've already looked up all the documentations and workarounds and the one that looks to be the best at the moment is to set the fan to a constant speed instead of letting it work automatically, but none of the methods I've found for doing that seem to be applicable to my particular setup.
[21:39] <Nicky__> simplexio, master file table
[21:39] <trism> tyler_: copy the current entry but replace the kernel with the new kernel you want to boot
[21:39] <jiohdi> n8tuser: sorry, see above
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> lucarg:  Hmmm.. see what files are on the thing still.. syslinux is just like 2 files on the  flash drives that ive seen.
[21:40] <n8tuser> jiohdi-> what?
[21:40] <lucarg> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1 this is what i was looking for thanks
[21:40] <jiohdi> n8tuser:  that manual is about keyboard mapping, I saw word zero about left handed mice
[21:40] <Pirate_Hunter> simplexio: oh ok will i am guessin that it will be slow still
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> lucarg:  thats a little extreme.. but if it works. :)
[21:40] <tyler_> Trism: the issue is there is no bzimage in the boot directory.
[21:41] <tyler_> Trism: My bad, no directory
[21:41] <trism> tyler_: did you make yet?
[21:41] <tyler_> Trism: But the image is there
[21:41] <simplexio> Pirate_Hunter: yep.. but clean ubuntu-server install should be fine
[21:41] <tyler_> Trism: I did make && install modules_install
[21:41] <Nicky__> struggling to find a any info on it
[21:41] <fbianconi> Nicky__ no it uses inodes
[21:41] <simplexio> Pirate_Hunter: you may wanna decrease those apache threads etc.. to get it working faster
[21:41] <n8tuser> jiohdi-> it will too, you may have to look for the pointer parameter
[21:42] <simplexio> Nicky__: did you lost somefiles ?
[21:42] <trism> tyler_: well if you're copying the kernel image by hand, you don't want to do install, just make and make modules_install
[21:42] <n8tuser> jiohdi-> something like xmodmap -e "pointer = 3 2 1 5 4"  3-button mouse
[21:42] <tyler_> trism: Right, and im following the guide. I want to do it exactly as it says since this is the first time I've done this
[21:43] <tyler_> trism: but it errors out with error 2
[21:43] <Lyra> Does anyone know how to manually set the cpu fan speed in Jaunty?
[21:43] <tyler_> trism: sh /home/tyler/lolkernel/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/arch/x86/boot/install.sh <IP_ADDRESS>-rt16 arch/x86/boot/bzImage System.map "/boot"
[21:43] <tyler_> /sbin/installkernel: 60: cannot create /boot/vmlinuz-<IP_ADDRESS>-rt16: Permission denied
[21:43] <tyler_> make[1]: *** [install] Error 2
[21:43] <tyler_> make: *** [install] Error 2
[21:43] <FloodBot1> tyler_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:43] <simplexio> tyler_: you could do sudo su - and then do it again
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> Lyra:  it can depend on the exact motherboard and/or chipset in use.
[21:43] <Nicky__> No i was wiping files but i was not to sure if there file names were still floating ty fbianconi  :)
[21:43] <jlilly> I've just changed my /etc/resolv.conf to use a different nameserver. How can I make this change active? Does it just work? or does a service need to be restarted?
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> Lyra:  some of my laptops have special tools for just that task.
[21:44] <Lyra> Ah
[21:44] <trism> tyler_: the permission error means you aren't doing it as root
[21:44] <aj_444> Is there a way to make windows transparent in GNOME?
[21:44] <Linux> Hi, I installed Kubuntu , all worked just fine, but the second hDD, as /dev/sdb1 is gone, I can't find him :| How can I mount it again ?
[21:44] <simplexio> tyler_: thats because that script call sh which is program without superuser rights, you can try 'sudo su - ' and then make install
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> aj_444:  when using compiz with gnome - yes.
[21:44] <tyler_> Trying that now
[21:44] <Lyra> I'm using a Turion x2 64
[21:44] <Linux> it was in /media/All , just 1 partition.
[21:44] <Pirate_Hunter> simplexio: ok will do once i discover the apache threads you are talking about
[21:44] <Gawker> how can i write a batch that will run cupple of commands whan i press it?
[21:44] <trism> tyler_: but I wouldn't recommend overwriting a working kernel, because if you messed up on the configuration, you have a nice unbootable system
[21:44] <aj_444> Dr_Willis: is compiz something I'd need to download?
[21:44] <bred_rj> soso
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> Gawker:  make a simple script - see the advanced bash scripting guide.. then make a icon/launcher for that script
[21:45] <fccf> !bash
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> aj_444:  its installed by default
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | aj_444
[21:45] <simplexio> Pirate_Hunter: "threads" i have like 10 apache process on my computer on default install. one apache process serves one connection
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> aj_444:  the 'ccsm' tool allows more tweaking of the effects
[21:45] <Gawker> !bash
[21:46] <Linux> Hi, I installed Kubuntu , all worked just fine, but the second hDD, as /dev/sdb1 is gone, I can't find him :| How can I mount it again ?  Its an AMD Turion X2 64.
[21:47] <Nicky__> ty fbianconi that really helped.
[21:47] <rgbargee> bastid_raZor, failed is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/265758/
[21:47] <aj_444> Dr_Willis: so ccsm is something extra I'd need to download?
[21:47] <adam> hi
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> Lyra:  its not the processor thats the critucal thing.. the Motherboard/chipset is the imporntant thing. Check google for linux and your specific laptop/motheobard is where id start.
[21:47] <fbianconi> Nicky__ you're welcome
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> aj_444:  the bot sayd it was 'optional' so Yes.. its not included  by default
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[21:48] <simplexio> Nicky__: well if you want to be sure that noone cant read data from disk use dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/disk
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> oh wait its 'extra' not optional. :)
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> whatever that means.....
[21:48] <jiohdi> n8tuser: I found there are two ways to set the mouse... and if one is left the other has to be right for it to work as left... it weird
[21:48] <rapt0rjezuz> if i set my onboard VGA as my main display in BIOS i can see my PCI-E card and the display hooked up to it but i cant figure out how to enable it using NVIDIA XSERVER SETTINGS
[21:49] <adam> how wake up beryl 3d?  how install it and where is .deb installer?
[21:49] <cmp> ok i want to remove GoogleEarthLinux.bin from my system by (SUDO ) command - and when i do , it tells me ( E: couldnt find the package ) .
[21:49] <jiohdi> n8tuser: if I set them both to left, they act like right
[21:49] <rapt0rjezuz> if i set my onboard VGA as my main display in BIOS i can see my PCI-E card and the display hooked up to it but i cant figure out how to enable it using NVIDIA XSERVER SETTINGS but if i set my PCI-E as my main i cant see the display hooked up to my Onboard VGA
[21:49] <coz_> adam   there is no more beryl
[21:49] <simplexio> Nicky__: or if you still have some data on disk which you want to keep change of to of==/path/random.stuff
[21:49] <n8tuser> jiohdi-> oh okay, good to know
[21:49] <adam> why?
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> cmp  whats the exact command you are ysing to try to remove it?
[21:49] <suman> i am kinda confused... when i type 'su', the password i type seems to be wrong but when i type 'sudo su' it goes to the root user without asking the password...
[21:49] <coz_> adam,  only compiz   because the projects have merged
[21:49] <suman> what is the deal with this??
[21:49] <coz_> adam,  and if you are on current ubuntu compiz is already installed
[21:50] <jussi01> suman: sudo -i for a root prompt
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> suman:  use sudo with ubuntu, forget about su and dont use 'sudo su' either..   use sudo -s  for a root shell IF you need one.
[21:50] <coz_> adam,   all you need to do is be sure the video driver is properly installed  then reboot
[21:50] <aj_444> Dr_Willis: Thanks. I'm doing a Distro Upgrade atm so I'll check it out afterwards.
[21:50] <waremperor> have a good night everybody :) 'lo world
[21:50] <cmp> Dr_ willis , sudo apt-get remove GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> or sudo -i :)
[21:50] <simplexio> rapt0rjezuz: google for Xorg.conf exambles two cards etc.. you need to manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add some lines
[21:50] <adam> why in beryl all effect see fantastic..why here in ubuntu 9 i cant make 3d desktop...
[21:50] <matt__> Any one have any experience with Gateway Laptops and Ubuntu with wireless connection
[21:50] <Pirate_Hunter> simplexio: oh ok now I get it hmmm that might be a biggy since im trying to get rtorrent with a web interface hmmm...
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> cmp:  that will not work.. I think you were told this earlier.. you ran a 'self installing executable' you MUST use that same executable/read its docs to see how to make it Uninstall itself.
[21:51] <coz_> adam,  which video card are you using?
[21:51] <suman> jussi01: Dr_Willis  so does that mean su is kinda deprecated in ubuntu??
[21:51] <adam> i heave installed  nvidia 9600gt
[21:51] <coz_> adam,  what you should actually do is meet me  in #compiz  channel
[21:51] <Nicky__> cheers i used bcwipe but noted down what you said.
[21:51] <adam> 4 core pc
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> suman:  its basically 'unused/unuseable'  by default.
[21:51] <x404x> Suman thats normal, that is because there is no su (root) account, it is disabled, sudo pretends to be superuser tho
[21:51] <simplexio> Pirate_Hunter: it probably runs just fine
[21:51] <vikram__> hi everyone I want to know what to write in a rule file while packaging wallpapers
[21:52] <simplexio> Pirate_Hunter: little more RAm is that bad idea thogh
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> suman:  the root account is set where you can not directly log into it.
[21:52] <cmp> i dont know any of what you said - i just want to remove it - how can i do that  Dr_willis?
[21:52] <suman> Dr_Willis: x404x  alrite.. cool.... thanks guys...
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> cmp:  read the docs for the program. you did NOT use apt-get system to Install it.. so apt-get stuff can Not UNinstall it.
[21:52] <rapt0rjezuz> if i set my onboard VGA as my main display in BIOS i can see my PCI-E card and the display hooked up to it but i cant figure out how to enable it using NVIDIA XSERVER SETTINGS but if i set my PCI-E as my main i cant see the display hooked up to my Onboard VGA, how can I enable my PCI-E when my Onboard is set as main? Or how can I get the Onboard to see the monitor i have plugged into when i set PCI-E as my main?
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> cmp:  to install it you basically ran a 'sudo ./GoogleWhatever.bin' correct?
[21:53] <x404x> since the account does not really exist there is of course no password for it also
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> Root account does exist.. it just has no password...
[21:53] <cmp> how can i read the docs - its bin file only how can i open it  Dr_willis?
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> cmp:  check its homepage?
[21:54] <x404x> cmp probably a binary image ? u need to burn it to cd/dvd as image or mount it using emulating software to access the files in it
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> I do belive that google earth and other google apps are either at the Medibuntu Repositories  or google hsa its own repositories  (or both)
[21:54] <fccf> cmp: here is your command ...... sudo rm -rf /opt/google-earth && sudo rm /usr/share/mime/application/vnd.google-earth.* /usr/share/mimelnk/application/vnd.google-earth.* /usr/share/applnk/Google-googleearth.desktop /usr/share/mime/packages/googleearth-mimetypes.xml /usr/share/gnome/apps/Google-googleearth.desktop /usr/share/applications/Google-googleearth.desktop /usr/local/bin/googleearth
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> x404x:  its a executable to install google earth.. Not a cd image.
[21:55] <yartiss> hi everyone
[21:55] <cmp> is what you can help with ( check the homepage ) Dr_willis?   do you think i cant do it ?
[21:55] <Pirate_Hunter> simplexio: will try if it gets to unbearable will remove it
[21:55] <fccf> cmp: found here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[21:55] <cmp> fccf, thanks i done whant you gave me - but its not working too
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> good luck fccf  :) im about ready to leave for the day...
[21:56] <worm> hello, i'm using 2.6.28-14 on jaunty 9.4, and i figured out a minute ago that my wifi card is using 'wl' driver which does not support injection afaik. Searched a bit and found this http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?topic=3597.0 is this topic deprecated ?
[21:56] <x404x> i didnt say cd image, i said binary image, installable executables also are in this category
[21:56] <draeath> I'm trying to update my repo, and I keep getting HTTP 302... and it doesn't actually update. Repos having problems?
[21:56] <fccf> Dr_Willis: thanks doc... the instructions are on the community/GoogleEarth page
[21:56] <x404x> usually self extracting archives
[21:56] <cmp> fccf, it tells me (  cannot remove `/usr/local/bin/googleearth': No such file or directory )
[21:56] <yartiss> I installed a system at my sister's, and I want to set a system property that would force the screen to lock after some idle time (and of course, I don't want the users to be able to change this)
[21:57] <yartiss> any ideas?
[21:57] <fccf> cmp: run whereis googleearth ..... and use those directories to remove as before
[21:57] <x404x> cmp tryed running the file ? or se if there is an installation guide someplace ?
[21:57] <fccf> x404x: I am looking at the guide ... he wants to completly remove GE
[21:58] <x404x> oh
[21:58] <draeath> if the uninstaller is complaining about that file being missing
[21:58] <draeath> then just create it with 'touch'
[21:59] <captine> hi all.  quick question.  is there an easier way to remove all but the base system and start fresh, without reformatting?  using ubuntu 9.x and think i have messed stuff up a bit?
[21:59] <captine> too lazy to reformat etc
[21:59]  * Dr_Willis wonders why its such a big deal worrying about google earth being installed...
[21:59] <Rawplayer> is there any ubuntu marketing email adres?
[21:59] <fccf> draeth: don't confuse him .. that wasn't the installer ... I gave him default removal code from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[21:59] <x404x> should be that simple with w.. err the os that cannot be mentioned lol
[21:59] <captine> trying to get egroupware working etc
[21:59] <captine> the webserver and ssh is really slow
[21:59] <captine> no idea why
[21:59] <fccf> captine: are you running this on a desktop sitiuation?
[22:00] <captine> server
[22:00] <captine> did a full install
[22:00] <dylan_> !intel
[22:01] <captine> am trying to setup for groupware and accounting application (ledgersmb) + to do some web development on it
[22:01] <decemberwolf> hello, can anyone help me with my hard drive woes? i have several partitions mounted but i cannot make it so that every user has read/write/create permissions on it. i have tried using chown and also using sudo nautilus and fiddling with the GUI but it wont let me change the permissions for everyone to create and delete, it just adds read access. please help!
[22:01] <fccf> !gksudo
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> decemberwolf:  tell the channel what filesystems are in use.. since the method differet for ext3/2/4  and vfat/ntfs
[22:02] <kiaas__> So, I got an install of xubuntu 8.04 on a 9GB HD. It's at 84% use after cleaning out 2 things, and every video I ever downloaded onto it. It's serving as a server mostly, but I'd like to keep the GUI on it. Anything you'd suggest removing to save some space?
[22:02] <pmo_> decemberwolf, option user on /etc/fstab
[22:02] <fccf> kiaas__: /var/cache/apt/archives
[22:02] <captine> fccf: got any suggestions?  or is a re-install the best option?
[22:02] <kiaas__> fccf, thanks, I'll check that
[22:02] <pmo_> decemberwolf, chmod -R 0777 /home/user
[22:03] <fccf> captine: what webserver are you running?
[22:03] <captine> apache 2
[22:03] <Lyra> Dr_Willis, I found my chipset but I don't see any documentation for it under jaunty
[22:03] <Pirate_Hunter> do I need to have xserver installed to be able to forward X, I mean isn't there another way other than installing all X components?
[22:03] <fccf> captine: with the php mods etc...
[22:03] <kiaas__> fccf, do I simply rf -r that cache, or...
[22:04] <pmo_> Lyra, what sort of chipset?
[22:04] <captine> all off CD.  used apt-get to upgrade machine to latest everything
[22:04] <kiaas__> rm*
[22:04] <captine> fccf: yip.
[22:04] <captine> php mods all in
[22:04] <Lyra>  AMD m780v
[22:04] <captine> want to setup drupal
[22:04] <captine> so need php
[22:04] <captine> mysql
[22:04] <captine> etc
[22:05] <Lyra> I'm trying to figure out how to set the fan speed
[22:05] <Lyra> because jaunty doesn't handle it properly
[22:05] <captine> am using an AMD 64 (with 64 Ubuntu) 3800+ with 2 gig ram.  seems really sluggish
[22:05] <Lyra> supposedly
[22:05] <fccf> kiaas__: don't remove the folder... just sudo apt-get clean
[22:06] <rapt0rjezuz> if i set my onboard VGA as my main display in BIOS i can see my PCI-E card and the display hooked up to it but i cant figure out how to enable it using NVIDIA XSERVER SETTINGS but if i set my PCI-E as my main i cant see the display hooked up to my Onboard VGA, how can I enable my PCI-E when my Onboard is set as main? Or how can I get the Onboard to see the monitor i have plugged into when i set PCI-E as my main?
[22:06] <dylan_> !intel
[22:06] <fccf> captine: you said jaunty?
[22:06] <pmo_> Lyra, i suppose you have a notebook and you might see / look  for relevant options for your laptop on /usr/src/linux 'make menuconfig"
[22:06] <captine> fccf: yip. thats the 9.x one, right?
[22:07] <dylan_> how does an intel video card work with ubuntu 9.04
[22:07] <kiaas__> fccf, thanks. I'm a novice learning things as I go. Learned most of what I know in under a year(though I've been fidgeting with linux for the past 5 years. mostly redhat based stuff)
[22:07] <dylan_> ?
[22:07] <fccf> captine: if this is mission critical ... I would definatly reccommend running Hardy especially with egroupware... It'll run alot better
[22:07] <tyler> Trism: still here?
[22:07] <Pirate_Hunter> isn't there a lightweight version of Xserver with less components for ubuntu?
[22:07] <decemberwolf> ping
[22:07] <Guest63456> trism: still here?
[22:07] <captine> fccf; is that teh LTS version. Have limited bandwidth, so downloading it will suck a bit.. lol
[22:07] <kiaas__> yay, down to 82% used
[22:07] <yartiss> I installed a system at my sister's, and I want to set a system property that would force the screen to lock after some idle time (and of course, I don't want the users to be able to change this)  any ideas?
[22:07] <captine> fccf: but will try it.
[22:08] <mac_attack09> brenden
[22:08] <Guest63456> trism: still here?
[22:08] <fccf> captine: consider a torrent
[22:08] <Guest63456> trism: still here?
[22:08] <decemberwolf> hello, can anyone help me with my hard drive woes? i have several partitions mounted but i cannot make it so that every user has read/write/create permissions on it. i have tried using chown and also using sudo nautilus and fiddling with the GUI but it wont let me change the permissions for everyone to create and delete, it just adds read access. please help!
[22:08] <rapt0rjezuz> if i set my onboard VGA as my main display in BIOS i can see my PCI-E card and the display hooked up to it but i cant figure out how to enable it using NVIDIA XSERVER SETTINGS but if i set my PCI-E as my main i cant see the display hooked up to my Onboard VGA, how can I enable my PCI-E when my Onboard is set as main? Or how can I get the Onboard to see the monitor i have plugged into when i set PCI-E as my main?
[22:08] <captine> fccf: am in South Africa on 384k adsl.  Am pretty heavily shaped
[22:08] <rapt0rjezuz> lol
[22:08] <Guest63456> trism: still here?
[22:08] <captine> will rather use ftp
[22:08] <rapt0rjezuz> fuck this
[22:08] <captine> thanks
[22:09] <fccf> kiaas__: been using ubuntu for 4 almost 5 years so, welcome to a really nice OS
[22:09] <TheEvilOne> anyone know how to add DNS addresses to network manager
[22:09] <pmo_> Pirate_Hunter, there is a lightweight xserver system.. it has something to do with framebuffer, AFAIK
[22:09] <rgbargee> ii used pastebin to try and resolve something do i need to delete the doc or something?
[22:09] <pmo_> chmod -R 0777 /home/user
[22:09] <fccf> captine: also use a local S.A. server ... I believe there are a couple in Jberg
[22:09] <sharif> Hello
[22:10] <sharif> how to know the host name
[22:10] <sharif> ?
[22:10] <pmo_> TheEvilOne, add "nameserver 19..." on /etc/resolv.conf
[22:10] <Pirate_Hunter> pmo_: im want to x forward but dont wish to install all the dependencies and components of xserver, wish for an alternative
[22:10] <decemberwolf> hello, can anyone help me with my hard drive woes? i have several partitions mounted but i cannot make it so that every user has read/write/create permissions on it. i have tried using chown and also using sudo nautilus and fiddling with the GUI but it wont let me change the permissions for everyone to create and delete, it just adds read access. please help!
[22:10] <fccf> sharif: type hostname into terminal
[22:11] <fccf> rgbargee: you cannot delete a pastebin, you can have it delete itself in 1day 30days or never
[22:11] <Anarchy7> hi guys I would like to remove ubuntu and install vista can you help me ?
[22:11] <schoolteacher> what if you don't succeed at destroyng the evidence?
[22:12] <decemberwolf> anarchy u re beyond help
[22:12] <ben> hola
[22:12] <decemberwolf> if u want vista over ubuntu, or indeed anything, then you are a madman!
[22:12] <rgbargee> fccf, how do i do that 1 day say - i have finished with it
[22:12] <Lyra> pmo_ sorry I got disconnected
[22:12] <pmo_> Pirate_Hunter, then you need nothing... if you use X in an other computer, you can run from this computer whatever application installed on the computer without X.. and X is not needed in this computer to make your application to run
[22:12] <pmo_> Lyra, i suppose you have a notebook and you might see / look  for relevant options for your laptop on /usr/src/linux 'make menuconfig"
[22:12] <fccf> Anarchy7: boot with live CD reformat drive with Partition Editor... Put NTFS on drive then boot with vista disk
[22:12] <decemberwolf> hello, can anyone help me with my hard drive woes? i have several partitions mounted but i cannot make it so that every user has read/write/create permissions on it. i have tried using chown and also using sudo nautilus and fiddling with the GUI but it wont let me change the permissions for everyone to create and delete, it just adds read access. please help!
[22:12] <Anarchy7> decemberwolf I wantto use both of them ubuntu for me win for my father
[22:12] <schoolteacher> anyone here able to get netflix streaming on ubuntu
[22:12] <fccf> !repeat | decemberwolf
[22:12] <Lyra> I don't see a /usr/src/linux, but I see sever linux-header directorys
[22:13] <mikejet> the netflix viewer works okay running in Windows7 in a VirtualBox window.
[22:13] <ulaas_> Anarchy7, aaah then thats different.
[22:13] <StraightDave> hi folks i am trying to masked redirect subdomain to a php query....like so...but its not working http://pastie.org/607217 any ideas ?
[22:13] <yartiss> @decemberwolf  Did you consider making a group, putting every user in it, and assigning that group to your partitions?
[22:13] <Anarchy7> reformat : how ?
[22:13] <decemberwolf> fccf: sorry :) forums are coming up empty btw. ive been at this for about an hour and a half :(
[22:13] <Guest30101> anyone know how to use xrandr to set up S-video?
[22:13] <pmo_> Pirate_Hunter, you only have to run the "ssh 192.. kdevelop" or "rsh 192... kdevelop"
[22:13] <mikejet> I wish ubuntu did better at playing 1080p video streamed off internet. hulu, netflix, whatever.
[22:14] <bens> i currently have it set up, but it only shows up when in the command line
[22:14] <bens> any ideas?
[22:14] <ulaas_> Anarchy7, best way is install Vista first. Delete all parts while doing that create a new -maybe half- part within vista and install there
[22:14] <tyler> Trism: you here?
[22:14] <innomen> hey guys, i've mounted an isop created with nrg2iso and all the file names once i've mounted the image have ";1" appended to the end, is there anyway i can remove that?
[22:14] <Anarchy7> ulaas_ how can I install vista ? I have ubuntu now
[22:14] <Lyra> pmo_ I don't see a /usr/src/linux directory, but I see sever /usr/src/linux-headers* directories.
[22:14] <Pirate_Hunter> pmo_: you sure I thought if I x forward an application into another comp it basically run X from the host? If youre saying otherwise than I might be able to pull this off
[22:14] <Lyra> several*
[22:14] <ulaas_> Anarchy7, u wanna keep ubuntu?
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  i think that has something to do with the joilet filesystem ive seen that issue befor.. but dident look into it very mych
[22:15] <ulaas_> Anarchy7, or willing to reinstall it again?
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  there are some 'fuse iso' tools that can mount a nrg file without converting it first i recall.
[22:15] <Guest33656> I have an issue, im trying to setup menu.lst for grub to boot the correct kernel, but it seems to not work and revert to a backup kernel
[22:15] <Guest33656> gah.
[22:15] <Anarchy7> my ubuntu installation wasnt so good I wanted it to save the computer ... I will install it again after a good vista
[22:15] <trism> tyler: yep
[22:15] <innomen> Dr_Willis, google wont take symbols as a search term, how would you suggest i proceed?
[22:15] <Guest33656> trism: now your here :P.
[22:15] <Guest33656> trism: But yeah, not sure whats up.
[22:16] <innomen> Dr_Willis, ok so it's deifntly the converter
[22:16] <gustavold> is it possible to configure a user group so that when I create a new user in that group its home directory is set automatically to /home/group_name/user_name ?
[22:16] <Guest33656> trism: It boots, but its not the correct kernel.
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  check out the fuse iso tools/commands  or perhaps nrg2iso has a homepage/forum somewhere.
[22:16] <ulaas_> Anarchy7, ok. thats easy then. put your vista dvd. boot from it. install vista to a partition that you create
[22:16] <fccf> decemberwolf: the drive is there ... gtkdiskfree to mount it
[22:16] <innomen> Dr_Willis, cool, thanks :)
[22:16] <trism> Guest33656: is the entry in grub pointing to the right kernel?
[22:16] <Guest33656> trism: its giving me some generic crap =(
[22:16] <pmo_> Pirate_Hunter, i am sure.. application make use of whatever X api available on the display..; display can be anywhere, but on the display X should run to provide all facilities to the application
[22:16] <mattgyver> I rm running Jinzora on my 9.04 server its a music CMS that runs via apache.  Something is causing it (within my lan only) to restart the 9.04 computer when certain links are clicked.  I have reviewed all of my logs and have no idea what is causing this.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[22:16] <Guest77010> good night
[22:16] <Kyo> Ola!!!
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  no its not definatly the converter. :) its  part of how iso images re made with the juliet extensions and so forth.. stuf fi never dug too deeply into.
[22:16] <Guest77010> Olá
[22:16] <Guest33656> trism: yeah, I think its the root part im messing up on. The other entries use UUID..
[22:17] <Kyo> hablan español?
[22:17] <Guest33656> trism: root (hd0,1)
[22:17] <Guest77010> no
[22:17] <Guest33656> trism: real_root=/dev/sda1
[22:17] <guntbert> Guest33656: what ubuntu version?
[22:17] <Snailer> hey hey
[22:17] <Kyo> QUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL?? QUE DIGA YO XD
[22:17] <guntbert> !es | Kyo
[22:17] <trism> Guest33656: yeah /dev/sda1 is probably (hd0,0)
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  next time ya  fire up a cd burner app. check out the options for  the iso9660 filesystem they can use. :) thats where i learned a little about it.
[22:17] <Kyo> A CHINGA
[22:17] <Kyo> gracias
[22:18] <pmo_> Lyra, i know there is some stuff related to fan and more usally tied to the sort of notbook you use, on kernel .. hence i suggest tohave a look at modules you may already  have on /lib/modules or the kernel itself
[22:18] <chaos2fu> hii everybody, how can i figure out which device a hdd uses (sda, sda1 and so on...)??
[22:18] <yartiss> @gustavold: I don't know if you can do it for one group.  But I know you can set up your system so that all new users' homes will be created in their main group
[22:18] <mikejet> Kyo: привет!
[22:18] <Guest33656> trism: thanks, going to try now
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> !info fuseiso
[22:18] <bro> guys, how can i make Deluge [torrent client] default app, so i can start torrents directly from browser? Deluge doesn;t have any setting for this
[22:18] <Guest77010> everytime i get in in my ubuntu he ask a pw to connect to wireless, existe some way to put that in auto?
[22:18] <innomen> Dr_Willis, 92kb are you crazy? i dont have that kind of space :)
[22:18] <pmo_> chaos2fu, df -k
[22:18] <fccf> bro: firefox has the option when downloading
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> Guest77010:  yes. thats the 'keychain' password you can disable that by setting a blank password.. some how.. i foget how. :)  let me find the url
[22:19] <mikejet> Where do I find source code to the Terminal program? There's a small change I want to make.
[22:19] <Guest77010> ya, is not the pw of the wireless but the pw of the programs that save the pws
[22:19] <pmo_> Gusudo
[22:19] <Pirate_Hunter> pmo_:  ok will continue with what i was doing than thanks for the info
[22:20] <Guest77010> but its get tired that everytime i get in, i have to put the pw to have acess to the pw's
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> Guest77010:  see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7470795
[22:20] <Lyra> pmo_ I really don't know that much about linux
[22:20] <ultraputz> mikejet - deb + src
[22:20] <Guest77010> i will take a look
[22:20] <Guest77010> tks
[22:20] <RPG_Master> I need help with EasyTag
[22:20] <tyler> trism: same issue
[22:20] <RPG_Master> anyone here use it?
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  the whole 'fuse' stuff.. is a lot of fun to check out.. all sorts of neat things those fuse tools can do
[22:20] <mikejet> ultraputz, Is there an apt-get install for that?
[22:20] <fccf> bro: see firefox>edit>preferences>applications tab
[22:20] <bro> fccf: yeah, but i use shiretoko now [ff 3.5] and it asks me to point to executable file of deluge [found it in /usr/share/install-app/desktop, but it doesn't work]
[22:21] <Kyo> de nuevo aca
[22:21] <Kyo> pero...
[22:21] <ultraputz> mikejet, if i remember correctly, debs can either come binary only, or binary plus source
[22:21] <Guest52642> trism: still here?
[22:21] <chaos2fu> pmo_ thanks...but each sda, is it fysical harddrive or is it also partions??
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  i just saw one day reading the info on fuseiso (i think) that it can also read .bin nrg, and other formats.
[22:21] <Kyo> como le hago para conectarme a ubuntu-es
[22:21] <ultraputz> to actually actively develop on a project, you probably need to find it's specific page and development branch code
[22:21] <fccf> bro: that is not the path to the deluge executible
[22:21] <innomen> Dr_Willis, so it says, but i'm fuzzy on it's usage
[22:21] <pmo_> chaos2fu, both... sda / is the drive sda1 is the partition
[22:21] <innomen> Dr_Willis, I'm reading
[22:21] <Guest52642> trism: tell me when your back
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> bro:  that path is the path to the  desktop file.. not the path to the executable.
[22:21] <RPG_Master> I need help setting Easytag to using MusicBrainz instead of gnudb.org
[22:21] <Lyra> pmo_ I'm sorry I don't really know enough about linux to get any use out of that
[22:21] <Guest52642> trism: http://pastebin.com/d470a349b
[22:22] <pmo_> chaos2fu, fdisk -l
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  proberly somthing like 'fuseiso  whatever.iso  mountpoint'
[22:22] <chaos2fu> pmo_ ok but if i have to fysicals harddrive, will the other one be sdb??
[22:22] <pmo_> Lyra, what sort of computer you have .. brand name ?
[22:22] <guntbert> Kyo: /join #ubuntu-es
[22:22] <bro> so where is Deluge installed? i searched for deluge, that's how i found the desktop path
[22:22] <Kyo> y eso donde lo pongo o que ?
[22:22] <innomen> Example mountpoint?
[22:22] <RPG_Master> Anyone mind helping me with easytag?
[22:22] <pmo_> chaos2fu, good chance.. could be sdc too
[22:22] <Lyra> Toshiba Sattelite l355d
[22:22] <chaos2fu> aahh okej thanks pmo_ !!! ure really good
[22:23] <innomen> and how do i get out of "man fuseiso"
[22:23] <fccf> bro: type whereis deluge and pastebin the output
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  pick a name.. any name.. use PORN if you want. :)
[22:23] <ultraputz> RPG_Master, it is highly likely that easytag is esoteric enough that you are best off seeking helping with the EasyTag developers
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  its the user mounting the thing.. so whever the user wants. :)
[22:23] <guntbert> !english | Kyo
[22:23] <Sasuke> Hola..!!
[22:23] <innomen> Pr0n!? you say?
[22:23] <fccf> innomen: Q
[22:23] <Guest52642> trism: back?
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  Usage: fuseiso [-n] [-p] [-c <iocharset>] [-h] <isofs_image_file> <mount_point> [<FUSE library options>]
[22:23] <pmo_> bro, dpkg -L Deluge
[22:23] <E-WolfShade> Is anyone here experienced at making DEBs?
[22:23] <innomen> Dr_Willis, just a plaintext name?
[22:23] <Kyo> Gracias!!!
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  one neat thing the -p optionwill autoi make the mountpoint (whch is unusual for a mount command)
[22:23] <trism> Guest52642: why not just copy the uuid of one of the other entries
[22:24] <Kyo> Thank o como se escriba =)
[22:24] <RPG_Master> ultraputz: OK... I'll check if they're on launchpad
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  err.. of course.. just like any other mountpoing.. You wan tto use somthing fancy?
[22:24] <pmo_> Lyra, modprobe toshiba_acpi
[22:24] <trism> Guest52642: specifically the one with the kernel that is in the same directory as your new kernel
[22:24] <Guest52642> trism: will the initrd work correctly in the ramdisk if I do?..
[22:24] <innomen> Dr_Willis, justs didnt know if it wanted some syntax madness some slahes or whatever :P
[22:24] <E-WolfShade> ...
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> fuseiso sruff.iso  /home/username/stuff
[22:24] <innomen> ok
[22:25] <Lyra> pmo_ no such device
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  i notied the gnome desktop can also mount iso image files.. not sure about other extensions
[22:25] <innomen> gotcha, now, how do i get out of "man COMMAND" without exiting the terminal :P
[22:25] <guntbert> Kyo: Tipo de aquí (no I don't speak spanish)
[22:25] <trism> Guest52642: I imagine it will, the uuid parameter is used by grub, grub passes the root= parameter to the kernel when it boots
[22:25] <E-WolfShade> I'd like to compile libtheora 1.1beta3, but I need to separate the DEBs into libtheora0 and libtheora-dev. Does anyone know how to do this?
[22:25] <vigo> !es
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  man is using 'more, or less' to view the files so same as More or less..  use the q key
[22:25] <pmo_> Lyra, you may have a look on /proc/acpi
[22:25] <Guest52642> trism: so I could put the uuid as the real_root correct?. Bah, I need to learn more about this :P
[22:25] <innomen> cool, duh, thanks :)
[22:25] <mikejet> The package name is "gnome-terminal".  "apt-get install gnome-terminal+src" doesn't get the source. Is there another place to get that?
[22:25] <bro> fccf: deluge: /usr/bin/deluge /usr/share/man/man1/deluge.1.gz
[22:26] <pmo_> innomen, press 'q'
[22:26] <trism> Guest52642: you would replace the root grub option with the uuid grub option, and leave the kernel line the same
[22:26] <hermitcrabred> Hi everyone...
[22:26] <Lyra> still no such device
[22:26] <Guest52642> trism: alright, thanks. ill try it
[22:27] <hermitcrabred> ...Is there a command u can run on terminal to check MDsums?
[22:27] <trism> Guest52642: I have no experience with using ramdisks so I couldn't say if those kernel arguments would actually work, but grub should boot them fine
[22:27] <guntbert> !info libtheora0 | E-WolfShade
[22:27] <el_magico> hello, someone can say me if, in unix/linux, the file descriptor associato to the keybord is stdin or stdin_fileno? On the manual there is stdin_fileno, but with the function fgets ........I must..... to use stdin..... Help me please, thank you so much
[22:28] <Lyra> pmo_ sorry, I keep forgetting to type the name. It still says no such device.
[22:28] <guntbert> E-WolfShade: libtheora is in the repos
[22:28] <vigo> hermitcrabred: Yes there is, one moment please
[22:28] <E-WolfShade> guntbert: duh... I want 1.1beta3
[22:28] <pmo_> Lyra, there is some files which could make sense to you on /proc/acpi
[22:28] <guntbert> E-WolfShade: I see...
[22:29] <hermitcrabred> Thanks vigo...
[22:29] <vigo> hermitcrabred: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[22:29] <Lyra> I see a directory named fan, but thats about it
[22:29] <E-WolfShade> guntbert: And all the repos/PPAs I've used have either old versions or seem to make horrible quality output for me
[22:29] <hermitcrabred> ...I`ll check it out...be back
[22:29] <mikejet> How long will ubuntu 9.10 be supported?
[22:29] <guntbert> el_magico: keyboard : stdin : fd0
[22:30] <Lyra> but it just has /proc/acpi/fan/FAN1/state and thats the only file there
[22:30] <el_magico> guntbert thank you
[22:30] <fccf> bro: /usr/bin/deluge is the executible
[22:30] <guntbert> !packaging | E-WolfShade maybe that helps?
[22:30] <vigo> hermitcrabred: That is the official and one of the best info sources that I know of , is even cross platform for checking hash sums.
[22:30] <guntbert> el_magico: you are welcome
[22:30] <bro> oh, found it but i couldn't run it so i guessed it wasn't that, sorry
[22:31] <bro> thanks fccf
[22:31] <fccf> E-WolfShade: why reinvent the wheel ... it's been compiled https://launchpad.net/%7Enext-media/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/485562/+listing-archive-extra
[22:31] <E-WolfShade> fccf: lol, that says 1.0 beta 3
[22:31] <E-WolfShade> fccf: That's older than what's in the repos
[22:31] <Lyra> pmo_ I only see a few directories and the only ones that look applicable are /proc/acpi/fan and /proc/acpi/processor
[22:32] <russ> trism are you still there? so far no luck getting my wireless interface back, and I'm at a loss for what to do to troubleshoot it
[22:32] <tyler> trism: same issue... is there somewhere else i have to change the kernel besides menu.lst?
[22:32] <trism> russ: what are you using for encryption?
[22:33] <innomen> this fuseiso thing is stupid, if i try to mount it in a freshly created directory it says non empty, if i mount it and asign it a name, is say mount point does not exist, isnt that the Point of this app to create a mount point?
[22:33] <russ> trism WEP 64-bit hex key
[22:33] <fccf> E-WolfShade: sorry whoops ... there is a version newer than that in svn which has been compiled https://launchpad.net/%7Egoldy-goldenfish/+archive/theora-thusnelda/+sourcepub/657148/+listing-archive-extra
[22:33] <Guest79755> trism: same issue... is there somewhere else i have to change the kernel besides menu.lst?
[22:34] <innomen> never mind, it mounted it just didnt tell me
[22:34] <blue0488> I am running twin view but I would like to run separate X screen but my tv screen has over lay and I googled overlay ubuntu but I have not found anything that is help full has anyone fix the overlay problem I have a nvidia 285 gtx geforce and the option to scale is not a option
[22:34] <trism> tyler: I see your error, you prefixed /boot/vm...etc, but all the other entries are just /vm...blah, meaning you have a separate boot partition
[22:34] <guntbert> innomen: you have to create the mount point
[22:34] <unkmar> hello all. I appear to be running 8.04 LTS on this system and would like to upgrade to 9.04 or so.
[22:34] <trism> Guest79755: remove /boot from the kernel line
[22:34] <E-WolfShade> fccf: The thing is, when I install from a PPA or something and then make my build of ffmpeg with it, the quality comes out awful, and recordMyDesktop takes forever to encode and also looks awful
[22:34] <Guest79755> trism: I did.
[22:34] <Guest79755> trism: should I try it with boot...?
[22:34] <sebsebseb> unkmar: why?
[22:34] <Guest79755> trism: I saw that to so I removed boot from the line.
[22:34] <sebsebseb> unkmar: easier  and better really to wait untill 9.10 released at the end of October, and then clean install
[22:35] <trism> russ: you can configure a wireless interface with iwconfig on the command line if you're using wep, I would try that out
[22:35] <fccf> E-WolfShade: you will also need the latest of ffmpeg so it talks with libtheora
[22:35] <guntbert> innomen: unlike some chicken linux apps dont yell "hey I did what I was told to do...."
[22:35] <innomen> guntbert, i did, i jsust didnt see where it completed without an error, i am still learnign what "mount" means
[22:35] <trism> russ: man iwconfig
[22:35] <E-WolfShade> fccf: But when I purged libtheora0 and compiled it myself from source and did 'make install', it came out fantastic
[22:35] <guntbert> innomen: :-)
[22:35] <Q`> ffm all on
[22:35] <unkmar> sebsebseb: Twinview is stretching maximized windows across both screans.
[22:35] <E-WolfShade> fccf: I build from SVN
[22:35] <trism> russ: and then use dhclient to get an address with dhcp
[22:35] <spO> do any of you use Deluge torrent deamon ? I use it, but i frequently have to start the deamon at least once a day because it crashes at least once a day
[22:35] <sebsebseb> unkmar: I think I have heard of   Twinview before, but  don't know what it is
[22:35] <trism> Guest79755: not sure what to say, what error is grub giving you?
[22:35] <innomen> guntbert, i'm a fan of those messages "operation completed successfully" rocks
[22:35] <innomen> :)
[22:36] <Guest79755> trism: No idea, im doing this with VM so unless its logging the errors..?
[22:36] <unkmar> sebsebseb: Twinview is Nvidia method of dual-screens.
[22:36] <Guest79755> trism: usually I wouldn't but I have my server elsewhere in my house.
[22:36] <Guest79755> trism: and only one keyboard and mouse set
[22:36] <E-WolfShade> fccf: I make an updated SVN build of ffmpeg every week or so
[22:36] <fccf> E-WolfShade: ok... then it is unsupported ... the packaging guy's name is 'mvo' and is sometimes in this channel, and usually always somewhere on the network
[22:36] <russ> trism the /etc/network/interfaces file says: "iface eth1 inet dhcp", then "wireless-key <my key>", then "wireless-essid <my ssid>", then "auto eth1" - does that look about right?
[22:36] <pmo__> sp0 you can look on inittab to run your Deluge application  so that it will be relaunched each time it crashes
[22:36] <russ> trism I will go read that man page now, thanks
[22:36] <pmo__> sp0 man inittab
[22:36] <sebsebseb> unkmar: maybe 8.10 will help since it has a  quite different from 8.04 version of xorg
[22:36] <guntbert> innomen: on linux command line its usually so : "no news is good news", they tell you when something bad happened
[22:37] <E-WolfShade> fccf: Yes, but why did it work great when I compiled it myself and then built ffmpeg, but not when I install a DEB?
[22:37] <fccf> E-WolfShade: read about ubuntu packaging, or attend a packaging meeting in #ubuntu-meeting which happens periodically
[22:37] <innomen> guntbert, indeed, just expressing my preffrence :)
[22:38] <trism> russ: that looks pretty close, been a while since I used wep though
[22:38] <E-WolfShade> fccf: I'm reading the Ubuntu packing guide atm
[22:38] <vigo> unkmar: To upgrade is done in steps, what sebsebseb is saying makes sense, is like 5>6>7>8 not 5>8
[22:38] <trism> Guest79755: how do you know that it isn't working then, does it just not boot?
[22:38] <aj_4441> How do I make windows transparent in GNOME?
[22:38] <ubuntu1> im an uber noob and i need lots of help.
[22:38] <Guest79755> trism: uname -a reports a different version number - the generic kernel on the list.
[22:39] <sebsebseb> unkmar: yeah that's something else, you can't  upgrade directly from 8.04 to 9.04
[22:39] <ubuntu1> i have an acer aspire 5516. wired connection doesnt work and wirless does.
[22:40] <ultraputz> ubuntu1, find a book titled, "you're ok, I'm ok."
[22:40] <sebsebseb> unkmar: and in certain ways 8.10 is better really :)
[22:40] <trism> Guest79755: what kernel source did you download?
[22:40] <nation> i need a good simpe p2p prog
[22:40] <vigo> ubuntu1: Sounds like a hardware issue, bad cable, port or dirt.
[22:40] <nation> what is a good one
[22:40] <ultraputz> ubuntu1 - was the hardwire connection working before installing ubuntu?
[22:40] <Guest79755> trism: http://wiki.fragaholics.de/index.php/EN:Linux_Kernel_Optimization
[22:40] <sebsebseb> nation: why?
[22:40] <Guest79755> trism: so the ones listed there in wget
[22:40] <unkmar> sebsebseb: vigo, and I upgrade by issuing what commands?
[22:40] <Guest79755> trism: linux-<IP_ADDRESS>
[22:40] <nation> send files with friends
[22:40] <Guest79755> trism: with a patch.
[22:41] <vigo> !upgrade | unkmar
[22:42] <nation> anyone know of one
[22:42] <sebsebseb> unkmar: not much point  upgrading 8.10 to 9.04  right now though,   with 9.10 out at the end of next month :)   and the rather fast to boot up and shutdown Ext4 file system by default :)   I am not sure how good that Ext3 to  Ext4 conversion really is,  and it's probably better for people to clean install that want that
[22:42] <sebsebseb> unkmar: only little differences  between 8.10 and 9.04 anyway
[22:43] <nation> or a simple to setup ftp
[22:43] <Gawker> can some one tell me how can i get into the "root" user folder from other user?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> unkmar: so that's why I suggest staying with 8.10 for now,  plus there is a chance of an upgrade going wrong,  losing Internet or something that kind of thing
[22:43] <fccf> !p2p > nation
[22:43] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | unkmar
[22:43] <fccf> nation: gFTP does fine for connecting to ftp servers
[22:43] <nation> i want to host files
[22:44] <trism> Guest79755: it is probably the correct kernel, but you didn't change the version string in one of the files in the kernel source folder
[22:44] <nation> thought a p2p would be easyer
[22:44] <natrixnatrix89> Hi.. If I have Win in one partition and ubuntu in the other.. If I reinstall windows, grub wont work anymore.. right? how do I reinstall grub?
[22:44] <kahen> Gawker, there is probably nothing in there, but you can get a root shell this way: "sudo su -"
[22:44] <ryan__> What are your favorite games in the repositories?
[22:44] <unkmar> thank you.
[22:44] <trism> Guest79755: I don't have a kernel source at the moment, and the name of the file escapes me
[22:44] <ryan__> * a census
[22:44] <haunter250> argh finally! man i feel like a baby again
[22:44] <guntbert> !noroot | kahen , Gawker
[22:44] <fccf> !grub | natrixnatrix89
[22:44] <haunter250> ubuntu is bloody difficult
[22:44] <nation> naaa i think is simple
[22:45] <Guest79755> trism: I don't think its loading the correct kernel... you might be right, but I'm not sure.
[22:45] <sebsebseb> !language |  haunter250
[22:45]  * fccf hands bottle of linux code to haunter250
[22:45] <nation> just a small learning curve
[22:45] <sebsebseb> haunter250: depends on what your doing with it, or if you got hardware that needs configuring
[22:45] <haunter250> :/ sorry
[22:45] <sebsebseb> nation: useually yes
[22:45] <haunter250> sebs, i do. I need to update my graphics driver
[22:45] <Guest79755> trism: thanks for taking your time and helping out though, not sure whats wrong here myself
[22:45] <Guest79755> trism: I think I might need to set the kernel somewhere else as wwell.
[22:45] <vigo> haunter258: It is a learning curve, once you get it, you will wonder WHY!?
[22:45] <sebsebseb> unkmar: no problem
[22:45] <guntbert> Gawker: what are you trying to do? your wording is a little confusing
[22:45] <Guest79755> trism: well*
[22:46] <sebsebseb> haunter250: is there one avaialble to install?  system > administaration > hardware drivers
[22:46] <haunter250> no, nothing there
[22:46] <nation> only issue i have with it is it runs my cpus untill thermal shutdown when doing cpu intensive stuff
[22:46] <Nachturnal> Its very difficult to get used to if you were a windows power-user only, before trying linux. But for basic browsing and whanot it's just as easy imo.
[22:46] <sebsebseb> haunter250: which graphics card?
[22:46] <haunter250> its the mobile intel 4500mhd
[22:46] <nation> i would really like a good simple p2p
[22:46] <nation> :)
[22:47] <sebsebseb> Nachturnal: true those that are  locked into Windows way to much, are usaully the hardest to convert to a Linux distro
[22:47] <Gawker> i saved on the "root" user desktop some document, i logged on as other user, and i want to copy it to my desktop allso
[22:47] <vigo> !p2p
[22:47] <ulaas_> sebsebseb, are you too picky about language or is it just me?
[22:47] <nation> yes im super good with windows also but have tinkered with linux distros over the years
[22:47] <nation> this is the first time i feel i can ditch windows ;)
[22:47] <sebsebseb> ulaas_: depends
[22:47] <bastid_raZor> nation: ktorrent is, in  my opinion, one of the best p2p apps out there.
[22:47] <haunter250> I downloaded what seemed to be the latest drivers from intel, but i have no idea how to install it
[22:48] <aj_4441> I have downloaded cssm. How to I make the windows transparent?
[22:48] <innomen> is there a way to endtaks the currently focused app?
[22:48] <sebsebseb> haunter250: oh you got it from the website I see hmm
[22:48] <sebsebseb> !intel |  haunter250
[22:48] <Nachturnal> Not sure why I bother to reply from my phone. By the time I'm done typing the subject has changed.
[22:48] <fccf> nation: stop tinkering and start reading ... another good place to start www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[22:48] <cacey31> okay is the ati x1600 graphics card compatible with ubuntu 8.1 because it is incompatible with jaunty jackalope
[22:48] <innomen> !endtask
[22:48] <kahen> Gawker, "sudo ls -la /root" gives you a list of the files in /root. you can then copy it out of there with "sudo cp" and change the owner of the file with "sudo chown"
[22:48] <nation> i forgot how to highlight people in here but ty bastid
[22:48] <innomen> !kill
[22:48] <bastid_raZor> aj_4441: if yo udon't find help here #compiz is a great help channel also
[22:48] <sebsebseb> haunter250: instaling  graphic cards websites from their websites for Linux, usaully will cause an issue,  thing is with Intel graphics cards  well  what the bot put
[22:48] <vigo> nation: Bittorrent is the default and is already packaged or installed, but you decide what you works best for you.
[22:49] <aj_4441> bastid_raZor: Thanks. I didn't know that existed. I'll go check it out.
[22:49] <sebsebseb> haunter250: installing graphic card drivers from the websites above
[22:49] <cacey31> okay is the ati x1600 graphics card compatible with ubuntu 8.1 because it is incompatible with jaunty jackalope
[22:49] <bastid_raZor> aj_4441: good luck.
[22:49] <nation> ty vigo
[22:49] <innomen> hey seriously its maxing out my cpu, how do i endtaks a program?
[22:49] <innomen> i know like half of you know :)
[22:49] <nation> how do i hightlight whom im taking to again
[22:49] <Gawker> 10x kahen
[22:49] <vigo> nation: you are welcome.
[22:49] <fccf> innomen: pkill progname
[22:49] <mmonlsd> hey i wanna connect my laptop acer aspire to tv via s-video to s-video... what are the configourations i have to do in the nvidia panel?!
[22:50] <sebsebseb> nation: just put their name into   your message, or use tab to auto complete
[22:50] <mmonlsd> thx
[22:50] <bastid_raZor> nation: say their name in the sentence.
[22:50] <cacey31> okay is the ati x1600 graphics card compatible with ubuntu 8.1 because it is incompatible with jaunty jackalope
[22:50] <hermitcrabred> Thanks vigo, there is good info but I just cannot get to make it...I`m new to this
[22:50] <sebsebseb> !ait |  cacey31
[22:50] <sebsebseb> !ati |  cacey31
[22:50] <nation> thats right bastid_raZor
[22:50] <russ> trism I'm at a loss. iwconfig reports eth1 is 802.11g, essid is correct, but link quality, signal level, and noise level are all zero
[22:50] <innomen> fccf, well how do i know what it calls itself? and how do i use it if it's hijacked the screen?
[22:50] <ulaas_> sebsebseb, i see. it is a very thin line. that is understandble to keep the channel friendly, but people may not like to be treated as children.
[22:50] <haunter250> sebsebseb are you saying I can't install it then?
[22:50] <sebsebseb> !tab |  nation
[22:50] <haunter250> my screen flickers really badly in xbmc
[22:50] <nation> sweet again ty
[22:50] <vigo> hermitcrabred: Did you search on the forums?
[22:51] <spO> how come ubuntu doesn't have a /etc/inittab file?
[22:51] <sebsebseb> ulaas_: sure, but  some rather young ones come in here as well
[22:51] <hermitcrabred> Not yet...it was easier with Mint...I`m just lost
[22:51] <russ> trism the "network monitor" applet says eth1:avahi does not exist whenever I try to configure it
[22:51] <trism> Guest79755: got a kernel source, the version string is configured in the Makefile at the root of the kernel source folder, that is the version info that it printed in uname -a, I would check that, perhaps add some extra info (like -custom) to EXTRAVERSION and then rebuild the kernel and try that
[22:51] <fccf> innomen: Ctrl-Alt F1 will get you to a terminal... sudo top will give you a list of what is running (or more inportantly what is using up all your ram)
[22:51] <yokobr> plz, can someone help me to configure fstab:
[22:51] <yokobr> ?
[22:52] <MenZa> !ask | yokobr
[22:52] <fccf> !fstab
[22:52] <trism> russ: did you configure your encryption key?
[22:52] <guntbert> !upstart | spO
[22:52] <trism> russ: iwconfig eth1 key restricted hex_key_goes_here
[22:52] <innomen> fccf, thank you, is there not a way to kill the currently focused app?
[22:52] <trism> russ: and then you need to get an ip address with dhclient eth1
[22:53] <guntbert> innomen: yes, there is
[22:53] <vigo> hermitcrabred: Yes, is like most anything, a transition can be as hard or as easy as you want it to be, get that printer spooling out all the man pages and whatnot. Is all fun.
[22:53] <sebsebseb> haunter250: well yes  9.04 is bad for Intel graphics cards
[22:53] <sebsebseb> haunter250: what is your actsaul problem by the way?
[22:53] <innomen> guntbert, and what would that be?
[22:53] <guntbert> innomen: there is an applet that kills misbehaved windows
[22:54] <haunter250> xbmc flickers ocassionally and flash games also flicker
[22:54] <vigo> hermitcrabred: https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[22:54] <guntbert> innomen: its called "force quit button"
[22:54] <hermitcrabred> I see I can check the disc but it ask for a folder to do so....(right clicck on disc, check disc and so on...
[22:54] <innomen> guntbert, will that work with an app that is fullscreen?
[22:54] <apostolos> i oikonikh mnhmh swap pou einai xrhsimh?
[22:54] <yokobr> well, sorry... i need to configure my fstab, that mounts my second partition, but i need to mount as read and write..
[22:54] <ulaas_> sebsebseb, sure! i just dont like good communities like this to end up with a "good intention gone bad" issue. you seem to know what you are doing. sorry to bother
[22:55] <innomen> like back in the day in win98 ifsomething was being crazy i could cntrl alt del, tab tab, spacebar and that would kill whatever i had been focused on
[22:55] <sebsebseb> ulaas_: if you want to talk about swearing in this channal, freel free to join #ubuntu-ops to talk about that, and by the way I am not an op
[22:55] <yokobr> http://pastebin.com/m405cd60a
[22:55] <guntbert> innomen: if you don't get the panel - no, but you can always go to the command line
[22:55] <mikejet> I like how on OS X you can type Ctrl+` in a Terminal window and it switches focus to another Terminal window kind of like how Alt+Tab switches to another program. Is there a way to do Ctrl+` in ubuntu?
[22:55] <yokobr> this is my fstab
[22:55] <mido> how to create a partition via cfdisk ?
[22:55] <Squarc1> hey, I got a simple question I just cant get fixed:
[22:55] <Lyra1> pmo_sorry about that. when I get phone calls I lose internet. Anywho, I think I found out how to do what I need but in order to do it I need to the the toshiba acpi module. How do I go about doing that?
[22:55] <Wildbat> hi there, anyone know how to fix that my laptop is not be able to wake from suspend? it just turn yurn and blackscreen
[22:55] <ulaas_> #ubuntu-ops
[22:56] <innomen> guntbert, ok lets say i do contrl alt f1 right now, how do i get back?
[22:56] <russ> trism dhclient responded with several DHCPDISCOVER messages, then "No DHCPOFFERS received"
[22:56] <kahen> innomen, alt+f7
[22:56] <fccf> Squarc1: ask away
[22:56] <guntbert> innomen: <alt>F7
[22:56] <innomen> cool
[22:56] <innomen> thank you
[22:56] <guntbert> innomen: whats the name of that app?
[22:56] <mido> need help, how to create a partition via cfdisk?
[22:56] <innomen> what app?
[22:57] <haunter250> sebsebseb: I don't know if you saw my message earlier, but xbmc often flickers, and sometimes crashes. Playing flash games also flicker! Overall the system feels slightly sluggish (and from my experiences with windows, it's usually graphics)
[22:57] <Squarc1> in bash running sudo dolphin & won't work since the password needs to be filled in when the program runs..... All I want is for sudo to run dolphin as a new procces (instead of a child).. how to do that?
[22:57] <guntbert> innomen: the one thats maxing out
[22:57] <sebsebseb> haunter250: I see
[22:57] <innomen> i'm just asking for general use the one that froze just now when i killed with process monitor was the ps2 emulator
[22:57] <fccf> !gksudo | Squarc1
[22:57] <sebsebseb> haunter250: well you can have a look at what the bot gave,  but your probably  better off putting 8.10 on for now, untill 9.10 comes out, which has  Intel graphic card issues  fixed
[22:57] <innomen> i fired it up wiothout a controller or game and it was sitting at the language screen heheh
[22:57] <vigo> innomen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts that is a good page.
[22:57] <sebsebseb> !intel |  haunter250
[22:57] <innomen> vigo, thank you
[22:58] <vigo> innomen: You are welcome.
[22:58] <dto> is there anything that ubuntu's wireless support does every 2 minutes? i'm running the rt kernel and every 2 minutes I get xruns, and simultaneously a line about Ieee802.11/0 or something similar pops up in the TOP command view
[22:58] <Pirate_Hunter> how do I get nano to show me the lines i.e. i want line 52?
[22:58] <guntbert> innomen: ok, you know on command line you can install htop, that is like top but more comfortable
[22:58] <bucky> Lyra1, modprobe toshiba_acpi
[22:58] <haunter250> sebsebseb: Thanks for your help. Any idea when 9.10 is due?
[22:58] <sebsebseb> haunter250: oh and by the way 8.10  is  actsauly better than 9.04  in certain ways, and pretty similar
[22:58] <vigo> !release
[22:58] <sebsebseb> haunter250: October 29th
[22:58] <Hiro2> can anybody here help me with AV stuff?
[22:58] <sebsebseb> haunter250: good idea to put 8.10 on now, run that for now, and then do another clean install  when 9.10 comes out :)
[22:59] <trism> russ: does iwconfig correctly list that it is using encryption?
[22:59] <mido> guyz.. how to create a partition using cfdisk?
[22:59] <haunter250> sebsebseb: Is it an easy rollback? I've already spent two days on this :D
[22:59] <sebsebseb> haunter250: roll back?
[22:59] <Lyra1> bucky it says no such device
[22:59] <fccf> !pm | Squarc1
[22:59] <sebsebseb> haunter250: oh  your new to Ubuntu?
[22:59] <haunter250> sebsebseb:  to 8.10
[22:59] <haunter250> sebsebseb: yes
[22:59] <bucky> Lyra1, modinfo toshiba_acpi
[23:00] <trism> russ: I seem to remember sometimes needing to do iwconfig wlan0 key restricted then iwconfig wlan0 key hex_key_here
[23:00] <sebsebseb> haunter250: you have to remove 9.04 and put 8.10 on from a CD, and you will need to know where to get that from well  I can get the link for that
[23:00] <fccf> !enter > Squarc1
[23:00] <russ> trism I don't know how to tell.
[23:00] <bastid_raZor> mido: read the manpage for it.. it is very informative. in a terminal type man cfdisk
[23:00] <trism> russ: just type iwconfig
[23:00] <hermitcrabred> vigo:  still there?
[23:00] <sebsebseb> !downgrade |  haunter250
[23:00] <haunter250> lol
[23:00] <hermitcrabred> ...do u use Ubuntu
[23:00] <trism> russ: it should list that the interface is using encryption
[23:00] <sebsebseb> haunter250: and so you clean install
[23:00] <trism> russ: or it won't
[23:00] <vigo> hermitcrabred: Yes, was just reviewing more documents....
[23:01] <innomen> guntbert, htop installed, very cool, thanks, looks like xtree gold heheh
[23:01] <hermitcrabred> ...r u using Ubuntu
[23:01] <guntbert> innomen: I knew you would like it :-)
[23:01] <russ> trism the only thing it says related to encryption is "Rx invalid crypt: 0", otherwise no mention of encryption
[23:01] <guntbert> !ot | hermitcrabred
[23:01] <vigo> hermitcrabred: Yes I am.
[23:01] <russ> trism but I did do the iwconfig key command you suggested earlier
[23:02] <sebsebseb> haunter250: have a look at what the bot gave, understand any of that?
[23:02] <vigo> hermitcrabred: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes That may help.
[23:02] <haunter250> sebsebseb: Ok, I'll see if I can find 8.10 somewhere. Thanks for your help. Would it be fairly simple to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.10?
[23:02] <Lyra1> bucky what should I look for in the output?
[23:02] <kahen> innomen, you might want to go to options in htop and set it to not show user threads. they really clutter up the display in htop
[23:02] <haunter250> sebsebseb: no, not really
[23:02] <hermitcrabred> ubottu so what`s the topic here then???
[23:02] <bucky> Lyra1, http://memebeam.org/toys/ToshibaAcpiDriver
[23:02] <russ> trism it had no effect on the response to the iwconfig command
[23:02] <sebsebseb> haunter250: I'll get you the link for 8.10 and   that
[23:02] <Axz> Hi there , could someone please help me with this error http://pastebin.com/m1e8708a3
[23:02] <sebsebseb> haunter250: it's a good idea to  clean install  again, when 9.10 comes out
[23:02] <trism> russ: yeah then you don't have encryption enabled, sometimes you have to explicitly do iwconfig eth1 key restricted, (without a key) and then check iwconfig again to see if it lists encryption on the device
[23:02] <vigo> !offtopic
[23:02] <guntbert> !upgrade | haunter250 and then you can read
[23:02] <bucky> Lyra1, apparently not all toshiba are supported by toshiba_acpi
[23:03] <trism> russ: then you can configure the key, it's weird and annoying, I don't know why it does that
[23:03] <billybigrigger> !iso
[23:03] <Uqbar> hello. Some menus in showfoto appear empty - e.g. "color". Is it because of a missing package? (all of showfoto's dependencies are met, though)
[23:03] <Lyra1> bucky I'm using a sattelite l355d
[23:03] <Squarc1> fccf: when running gksudo dolphin (or kdesudo) I get a error the first 3 times that dolphin can not connect to some KDE socket.. while sudo dolphin does not give me that error. Now I know kdesudo is supposed to provide dolphin with a better environment. However, it's anoying to have to do it over 4 times before it works..
[23:03] <hermitcrabred> ...Let me try that...
[23:03] <innomen> kahen, alrighty
[23:03] <andresmh> can I just do this: mv ~/.mozilla /somewherelese; ln -s /somewherelese/.mozilla ~/ ?
[23:03] <sinthetek> anyone in here have much experience installing to netbooks? i seem to have ruined the microsd card of my mp3 player trying yesterday and the only thing i have big enough for ubuntu netbook remix is the primary storage on my mp3 player
[23:03] <guntbert> hermitcrabred: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[23:03] <sebsebseb> haunter250: otherwise you would have to upgrade through 9.04,  and  so on
[23:03] <sinthetek> before attempting to dd the netbook remix image to my mp3 player's primary storage i would like to be certain it will be usable again afterwards or whether that is another option to install it
[23:04] <andresmh> with can, i mean, will firefox continue working just fine....
[23:04] <innomen> kahen, done
[23:04] <sinthetek> back in the day there were ways to save packages to a partition and the tell the installer to install from there. isn't there some way to use a smaller thumb drive to boot the installer and install packages from a partition on disk?
[23:04] <haunter250> wow, I thought ubuntu would be easier than windows
[23:04] <hermitcrabred> ...I`m using Ubuntu and I have a question about md5sum so what`s the point?
[23:04] <Guest50728> HOLAA
[23:04] <fccf> Squarc1: sounds more like a KDE issue.... so I'll point you here #kubuntu ... this chan is also quieter
[23:04] <Axz> Guys i'm getting some weird error on boot with my new harddrive http://pastebin.com/m1e8708a3
[23:05] <hermitcrabred> ...I`m getting support for it, Am I???
[23:05] <innomen> haunter250, dont confuse diffrent with difficult
[23:05] <yokobr> please, can someone help me to make my partition be mounted as RW permited?
[23:05] <russ> trism i did that and it still does not say anything more about encryption
[23:05] <sinthetek> hermitcrabred to verify what you have is what you want
[23:05] <sinthetek> (uncorrupted)
[23:05] <guntbert> andresmh: try it, but yes it should work, but why do want to do that?
[23:05] <haunter250> its not very people friendly :/
[23:05] <pepperphd> haunter250, ubuntu is both easier and more powerful than windows
[23:05] <sebsebseb> haunter250: what isn't?
[23:05] <fccf> Axz: not at boot... you are logged in ... don't lie
[23:05] <Squarc1> fccf: cant you just tell me how to run sudo dolphin & properly? I just need 'dolphin &' to be executed by sudo
[23:05] <andresmh> guntbert, running out of space in /home
[23:05] <pepperphd> it wont hold your hand though, you might have to read some documentation
[23:05] <haunter250> I accept more powerful, not easier
[23:06] <fccf> Squarc1: dolphin is in KDE not in ubuntu, and as such #kubuntu is the place to ask
[23:06] <pepperphd> what are you having trouble with?
[23:06] <sinthetek> haunter250 you have to use it a bit before you know that with any certainty
[23:06] <Squarc1> ok
[23:06] <innomen> haunter250, the ways in which ubunut is insensative to userfriendliness is ussually the result of an app being under maintained, or some patent law crap, so ultimatly not ubuntu itself's fault
[23:06] <trism> russ: not really sure then
[23:06] <Axz> fccf, i got those error also on install and bot but they don't show up after installation
[23:06] <sebsebseb> haunter250: i'll help you get set up nicely with 8.10 and 9.10 when it's time if you want
[23:06] <guntbert> andresmh: ah, I see - it should definitely work - but you could mount another partition into your homedirectory too
[23:06] <innomen> haunter250, just come here and ask when you have issues, you'll pick it up really fast
[23:06] <sinthetek> haunter250 there mere fact you don't have be hassled with malware, individually updating packages or reinstalling makes it 100% easier imo
[23:06] <Axz> somehow with "dmesg | head" i still get those errors
[23:07] <russ> trism well thanks for trying
[23:07] <andresmh> guntbert, why would that better?
[23:07] <sebsebseb> haunter250: it's unfortuante in a way that you have an Intel graphics card, and so should really put 8.10 on,  however in certain ways 8.10 is actsaully better than 9.04 anyway
[23:07] <russ> trism guess mhy ubuntu system is broken
[23:07] <innomen> sinthetek, eh, but widnows can feel a lot more modular (ironically) because of the installation process
[23:07] <sinthetek> as long as you aren't doing weird/tricky stuff or using odd/cutting-edge hardware it is typically as easy or easier to use in every respect
[23:08] <fccf> Axz: it is a handshaking thing, and it repairs itself several lines down i believe ... but as you only provide partial information by |head I really cannot tell you more ... perhaps pastebin the whole of dmesg
[23:08] <innomen> sinthetek, thats dismissive, to say that all difficulty is effectivly the users fault.
[23:08] <trism> russ: well wireless can still be a pain to configure on linux sometimes
[23:08] <sebsebseb> haunter250: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/  download the desktop  CD ISO   then you should check the ISO to make sure it's a good download, that's easy to do,  then you burn the contents to CD
[23:08] <haunter250> I really like ubuntu, don't get me wrong, buts its not very easy to fix issues
[23:08] <innomen> i wish XP would live boot, live boot is the coolest thing
[23:09] <sebsebseb> haunter250: yeah depends on the issue
[23:09] <guntbert> andresmh: not necessarily better - but another way and it seems a bit clearer to me (because from the linked directory its not easy to see where it "belongs")
[23:09] <innomen> haunter250, thats what we and the forum are for man, just give it a chance :)
[23:09] <haunter250> sebsebseb: can I run that from USB? I have no black disks atm :/
[23:09] <russ> trism on windows it just works. you really have to be committed to enduring a lot of time-wasting to use linux.
[23:09] <debio264> innomen: http://icrontic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12217
[23:09] <sebsebseb> !usb |  haunter250
[23:09] <guntbert> !ot | innomen
[23:09] <haunter250> I'm not ready to give up yet, don't worry ;)
[23:09] <haunter250> just frustrating#
[23:10] <sebsebseb> haunter250: that's another idea, run a persistent USB install of 8.10 untill 9.10 comes out
[23:10] <innomen> debio264, PE is crap, thats a boto disc with a windows theme, i mean true blue windows xp on a usb stick, like you can do with ubuntu
[23:10] <sebsebseb> haunter250: assuming you can save stuff on to it,  I haven't done USB Ubuntu's myself
[23:10] <sinthetek> innomen not sure i know what you mean by 'feel more modular'. i suppose it might be easier to customize install paths on windows than *ubuntu* but ubuntu is designed to be as 'user-friendly' as possible.' on other distros modifying install paths is just as easy
[23:10] <Axz> fccf, this is whole output of dmesg http://pastebin.com/d6f193ff1
[23:10] <russ> trism the amazing thing is that it was working just fine, i was trying to find a shortcut to rebooting my machine, it seems like when i used the commend "ifdown eth1 --force" it just permanently broke it
[23:10] <pepperphd> i had do downgrade from 9 to 8 because of video card issues, i dont see a problem with downgrading of the upgrade breaks your hardware
[23:11] <sinthetek> innomen i never said anything to imply any hardship was the users' fault, only that it doesn't exist in most circumstances
[23:11] <sebsebseb> pepperphd: yep and your not the only one that downgraded, because of a graphics card issue
[23:11] <trism> russ: that is strange
[23:11] <innomen> sinthetek, well for one windows has about 50x the application options, you can find a single app for justa bout ever function you can think of, not so for ubuntu where in you typically ahve to edit something to get the desired effect
[23:11] <debio264> innomen: it's based on the Windows installation environment
[23:11] <sebsebseb> !language |  innomen
[23:11] <innomen> sinthetek, well you said cutting edge hardware or tricky demands
[23:11] <debio264> innomen: it's all Microsoft code, and that's as close as you'll get
[23:11] <innomen> sebastien, uhh excuse me?
[23:12] <sebsebseb> !ot |  innomen   debio264
[23:12] <sinthetek> *most* end users don't use their systems for anything more than school work, surfing, chatting and a couple of other things. they aren't trying to hack their system to do a bunch of weird stuff or buying cutting edge hardware as soon as it hits the market
[23:12] <russ> trism the network monitor widget on my panel shows eth0 working fine (that's what I am communicating on now) but eth1 is shown as "disconnected"
[23:12] <haunter250> well, im off to try and sort this out. i'll be back in an hour or so
[23:12] <sebsebseb> innomen: the  c word
[23:12] <innomen> crap?!!?
[23:12] <innomen> come on
[23:12] <innomen> Grow Up
[23:12] <sinthetek> those who choose to do those things hvae to give ubuntu and other distros a little time to catch up, especially when vendors do not provide drivers
[23:12] <innomen> is feces a naughty word too?
[23:12] <sebsebseb> innomen: hmm heh
[23:12] <sebsebseb> innomen: not at your comment just now though
[23:12] <innomen> how about darn
[23:13] <Pricey> innomen: PM please?
[23:13] <sinthetek> s/drivers/support
[23:13] <fccf> Axz: that tells me there is a good chance that there is something physically wrong with that drive
[23:13] <innomen> sure
[23:13] <Lyra1> Ok, It looks like I have to patch the toshiba_acpi module into the kernel. Does anyone know how would I go about doing that? The kernel I have is 2.6.28
[23:13] <trism> russ: did you try deleting the configuration and creating a new one in network manager? maybe the file got corrupted somehow
[23:13] <Axz> fccf, damn ts 2 days old drive....
[23:13] <nightrid3r> !mount
[23:14] <trism> russ: I haven't used network manager in any recent ubuntu version so I can't really be much help with it
[23:14] <Axz> fccf, oke it remounted harddrive with follow error http://pastebin.com/m634f10ab
[23:14] <Guest79755> trism: Is there any way I can confirm it is loading the correct kernel?
[23:15] <innomen> and for the record to the hall monitors i think easing a user's anxiety about ubuntu is support and thus on topic, just saying :)
[23:15] <russ> trism that sounds like a good idea. how do I delete the configuration?
[23:15] <mattgyver> I rm running Jinzora on my 9.04 server its a music CMS that runs via apache.  Something is causing it (within my lan only) to restart the 9.04 computer when certain links are clicked.  I have reviewed all of my logs and have no idea what is causing this.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[23:16] <Axz> Is it possible there are issues with Ubuntu and 1 TB + harddrive because its 3th harddrive having issues
[23:16] <Axz> fccf, ^
[23:16] <russ> trism the network monitor is not the same thing as the network manager, it is a panel widget
[23:16] <Axz> Or i'm formating it wrong? its something being pain in the butt
[23:18] <trothigar> Axz, do you need help?
[23:18] <fccf> Axz: sorry multitasking... looks like a bad format, reformat reinstall ... if problem persists, take it back
[23:19] <Lyra1> does anyone know how I would go about patching the toshiba_acpi module into the kernel?
[23:19] <tyler> trism: still looking for a way to find out if the kernel is loading right
[23:19] <Axz> this is not my installtion harddrive but 2th harddrive  and whats best way to format ?
[23:19] <kahen> Axz, i'd also take a look at smartmontools
[23:19] <Guest98796> trism: still looking for a way to find out if the kernel is loading right
[23:19] <innomen> vigo, this hotkeys page is awesome, total cheat sheet, thanky
[23:20] <Axz> Also guys because its my 3th issue with 1TB SATA HD's could it be SATA controller?
[23:20] <kwadronaut> why is a bug not showing up for the karmic/jaunty/.. release, but shows in the general thingie?
[23:20] <trothigar> kwadronaut, in launchpad?
[23:20] <kwadronaut> trothigar: yes
[23:21] <vigo> innomen: I had that one boookmarked, is awesomish
[23:21] <Axz> fccf, on boot up of ubuntu i get also acpi errors how to check them?
[23:22] <trothigar> kwadronaut, I think a bug will only show up under a release if it's nominated to be fixed for that release. Could be wrong though.
[23:22] <Axz> maybe that could be the issue...
[23:22] <kwadronaut> trothigar: it is, thanks.
[23:23] <Axz> Hmmz and this user has same error https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/354462
[23:25] <Lyra1> #linux
[23:25] <trism> Guest98796: what I would do is add something special to the EXTRAVERSION in the kernel Makefile like in my case -trism, then when you load the kernel and do a uname -a, if it is the correct kernel it will end in -trism
[23:25] <fccf> Axz: i have to go ... I hope you get the help you need
[23:26] <Mrokii> hello. A a (still) Ubuntu-newbie i would like to know how I can start a file that is shown as "executable" on the desktop, but when I doubleclick it, I get the message that it can't be opened because "No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file"
[23:26] <trism> russ: yeah but the network manager is what you use to configure the interface right?
[23:26] <mneptok> Mrokii: what is the file, exactly?
[23:26] <thiebaude> Mrokii, what file is it?
[23:27] <trism> Guest98796: you'd have to rebuild and reinstall the kernel after you edited the Makefile of course
[23:27] <thiebaude> mneptok, you typed faster than I,lol
[23:27] <xangua> Mrokii: gnu/linux is not windows, it has is owns programs
[23:27] <xangua> apps>add
[23:27] <Mrokii> mneptok, thiebaude "OceaniX.x86_64". A game I downloaded. It consists of a folder with a bunch of ressources and two executables
[23:28] <mneptok> Mrokii: what are the names of the executables?
[23:28] <Mrokii> mneptok, "OceaniX.x86" and "OceaniX.x86_64". And I have 64bit Ubuntu installed
[23:28] <GuidMorrow> hey ... is "Ubuntu Studio" any good?
[23:29] <thiebaude> Mrokii, that page where that file is at says ,OS: Windows XP/Vista
[23:29] <thiebaude> http://www.bigfishgames.com/download-games/3180/oceanix/index.html
[23:29] <Mrokii> thiebaude, I don't think so. I tried two different source and both say that this is the linux-version
[23:29] <mneptok> Mrokii: http://www.bigfishgames.com/download-games/3180/oceanix/index.html  <--- that game?
[23:30] <Mrokii> yep
[23:30] <ajax4> I'm having problems with my system not recognizing/mounting CD/DVD discs. Have others reported this problem recently??
[23:30] <thiebaude> Mrokii, from that website?
[23:30] <mneptok> Mrokii: see the system requirements?
[23:30] <Mrokii> mneptok, thiebaude There *is* a Linux-version available. I will see if I still have the link.
[23:30] <thiebaude> Mrokii, ok
[23:31] <Mrokii> thiebaude, here, for example: http://happypenguin.org/newsitem?id=9219
[23:31] <xangua> Play FREE for one hour (18.22 MB) - oceanix | Mrokii jum......................................
[23:32] <sinthetek> i guess i could edit the .img...
[23:32] <Mrokii> xangua, nope, the linux-version is free (at least that was said on one of the websites. It is downloadable here (the zip I downloaded): http://happypenguin.org/show?OceaniX
[23:32] <munk> hey all, in a bash script I got grep to output a line like this: "PTS=0.1860, frame_time=33 ms, bitrate=9100 kbps". now I need to store the number 33 in a variable, how do I extract the number 33 from this line?
[23:32] <sinthetek> if i could slim it down a few hundred mb  i should be able to fit it onto my 1gb thumbdrive
[23:32] <kevdog> Good afternoon guys and ladies :)
[23:32] <munk> is there a handy command?
[23:33] <thiebaude> Mrokii, trying out where is a install link on that page
[23:33] <ajax4> munk: Not sure this is the proper channel for questions on BASH programming
[23:33] <thiebaude> to find
[23:33] <munk> ajax4: what is a good one
[23:33] <sinthetek> munk cut
[23:33] <kahen> munk, maybe awk? or cut?
[23:33] <munk> thanks :)
[23:33] <sinthetek> | cut -f2 -d'='
[23:33] <sinthetek> i think that would do it
[23:33] <Mrokii> thiebaude, on this site: http://happypenguin.org/show?OceaniX (below the table that lists different specs of the game)
[23:34] <Pici> munk: #bash
[23:34] <thiebaude> Mrokii, its a zip file
[23:34] <thiebaude> !zip
[23:35] <Mrokii> thiebaude, I know, but as it said it would be the linux-version I downloaded it and expanded it.
[23:35] <mneptok> Mrokii: where is the folder with the game?
[23:35] <kevdog> zip files can be extracted on the command line too!
[23:35] <innomen> i have an ace file that wont open even witht he non free unacer in the repos
[23:35] <Mrokii> kevdog, The problem is *not* the extration, but that what is inside doesn't work for me :)
[23:35] <innomen> it opens in windows just fine
[23:35] <fuzzman54> I just reformatted my external hard drive from fat32 to ext4 and it's about 100gb smaller. Did I do something wrong, or is that actually supposed to happen?
[23:36] <kevdog> Mrokii: What's the problem -- I just joined the channel
[23:36] <sebsebseb> fuzzman54: hmm
[23:36] <mneptok> Mrokii: where is the folder with the game?
[23:36] <sebsebseb> fuzzman54: Ext4 is still a  little bit hmm in 9.04,  and  extenal hard disk is for storage I assume?
[23:36] <thiebaude> Mrokii, i never installed linux zip files before
[23:36] <mneptok> Mrokii: on the desktop?
[23:36] <Mrokii> mneptok, The zipfile contained a folder named "OceaniX", inside another folder named "OceaniX.app" and the two exectuables I mentioned before...
[23:36] <fuzzman54> Yes.
[23:36] <Refried_> i'm getting the error 'dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute installed pre-removal script: Exec format error'  when trying to apt-get remove a package... is there anything I can do to just mark it as uninstalled in the database?  i don't even care if there are holdover files on the disk anymore
[23:37] <sebsebseb> fuzzman54: so  maybe would have been better to stay with the fat32 on it for now
[23:37] <Mrokii> mneptok, erm, no, in a Downloads-folder
[23:37] <Mrokii> mneptok, Does that matter?
[23:37] <sebsebseb> fuzzman54: or put Ext3 on instead even
[23:37] <mneptok> Mrokii: and where is that? and what is it named?
[23:37] <mneptok> Mrokii: if you want me to give you all the commands you need to run the game, yes, it does.
[23:37] <sebsebseb> fuzzman54: for example with 9.04 if people delete big files, they might get a lock up issue
[23:37] <bigdavejoker_> I'm having trouble getting a bridge connection in vmware to work  It use to work fine now all I can get to work is NAT
[23:37] <sebsebseb> fuzzman54: when using Ext4
[23:37] <fuzzman54> I had the same problem with Ext3. I need to be able to use permissions on the drive.
[23:38] <Mrokii> mneptok, I expanded the OceaniX.zip in a "Downloads"-folder within my home-folder
[23:38] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  fuzzman54
[23:38] <fuzzman54> I know.
[23:38] <fuzzman54> I couldn't get umask to work.
[23:39] <mneptok> Mrokii: cd ~/Downloads/OceaniX && chmod +x OceaniX.x86 && ./OceaniX.x86
[23:39] <Mrokii> mneptok, cool thanks! It worked!
[23:39] <Mrokii> mneptok, many thanks :)
[23:40] <mneptok> np
[23:40] <xangua> Mrokii: right clic>properties>permissions>aloud execute the file as a program
[23:40] <Mrokii> and thanx thiebaude as well
[23:40] <ubuntu1> looking for help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=770173 im on step 6/7
[23:40] <xangua> in the 87 or 64 bit version, the one you use
[23:40] <thiebaude> Mrokii, no problem,
[23:41] <Mrokii> xangua, okay, will try next time I run into that issue. thanks as well
[23:41] <fuzzman54> Will Ext2 give me the same problem?
[23:42] <sebsebseb> fuzzman54: yes
[23:42] <sebsebseb> fuzzman54: also it's not exactly a problem
[23:42] <sebsebseb> fuzzman54: file permissions are there for security
[23:42] <fuzzman54> Losing 100gb on a hard drive is a problem to me.
[23:42] <ubuntu1> looking for help installing my network drivers..
[23:42] <sebsebseb> fuzzman54: you lost data?
[23:43] <fuzzman54> No. I copied everything over to another drive to reformat this one.
[23:43] <fuzzman54> But now I don't have enough room to put it all back on.
[23:43] <legend2440> Refried_: read post # 8  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=415617
[23:44] <Refried_> thanks legend2440 I will try that prerm thing
[23:44] <sebsebseb> fuzzman54: you can change the file perissions for the drive graphically as well, but probably not the best way to do it
[23:45] <ubuntu1> looking for help finnishing the install of my drivers..
[23:46] <fuzzman54> I tried changing the file permissions with chmod and it wouldn't work because fat doesn't support file permissions. So I tried umask, but that wouldn't work either. So I just reformatted but lost 100gb of space when I did.
[23:46] <vede> I need to close the X server to install video drivers...
[23:46] <vede> But...
[23:46] <vede> I'm not really sure how.
[23:46] <kamen> hey guys, I got an compiz problems
[23:47] <Pici> vede: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[23:47] <Qvintvs> does anyone have any recommendations on command line ftp clients?
[23:47] <FiremanEd> untu
[23:47] <guntbert> Qvintvs: use ftp
[23:47] <theatro> Qvintvs, lftp
[23:47] <thiebaude> !ftp
[23:47] <kevdog> Qvintvs: like ftp itself?
[23:48] <Qvintvs> i guess, is that what you guys use? i was using lftp for a while but I'm wondering if there's anything that might be better
[23:48] <Pirate_Hunter> i am trying to X forward epiphany-browser but keep getting cannot open display, what would be the reason for this?
[23:49] <kevdog> Pirate_Hunter: Is your display variable set?
[23:49] <kevdog> Pirate_Hunter: Platform?
[23:49] <lstarnes> Pirate_Hunter: are you using ssh?
[23:49] <ubuntu1> looking for help finnishing the instal of my drivers
[23:49] <ubuntu1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=770173
[23:49] <ubuntu1> im on step 6
[23:50] <Refried_> legend2440: thank you so much, i had spent days searching and trying different combinations of flags.   my .prerm and .postrm files were corrupt, so i couldn't reinstall, or remove.  got them removed now.
[23:50] <llkkjj> #j linuxac
[23:50] <legend2440> Refried_: your welcome
[23:51] <ubuntu1> can any one help me with my network problem?
[23:51] <Pirate_Hunter> kevdog, lstarnes: using ssh with ubuntu hardy, the host has no X but as ive been told it dont need X
[23:51] <vede> ...
[23:52] <vede> Okay, so, sudo invoke etc...
[23:52] <gamer24> i am having a problem currently with ubuntu and the ati driver, where i cannot change the display size, and opening up the display menu under system cause the computer to slow down considerably
[23:52] <vede> Just put my computer at a black screen that said "reloading log daemon" and never did anything.
[23:52] <lstarnes> Pirate_Hunter: try ssh -XY
[23:53] <lstarnes> vede: did you try pressing enter?
[23:53] <vede> Yes.
[23:53] <vede> It said: * Reloading log daemon... and nothing I pressed did anything.
[23:53] <ubuntu1> no one here can help me with a network problem?
[23:53] <lstarnes> vede: what about ctrl+alt+f1
[23:53] <lstarnes> vede: er, ctrl+alt+f2
[23:53] <kamen> ubuntu1: what's your problem?
[23:53] <gamer24> also, any settings i change under the catalyst control center do not stay when saved
[23:53] <lstarnes> vede: when gdm is stopped it usually dumps you to a system console
[23:54] <vede> What is the difference between all those ctrl+alt+fx things?
[23:54] <lstarnes> vede: they select the active system terminal
[23:54] <vede> So...
[23:54] <lstarnes> vede: X normally is attached to the one accessed with ctrl+alt+f7
[23:54] <vede> So why would I do f2 instead of f1?
[23:54] <gamer24> nm, now it seems to be working, weird
[23:55] <lstarnes> vede: to go to the second terminal instead of the first
[23:55] <vede> But why would I need the second instead of the first?
[23:55] <vede> Or the fifth, or the third?
[23:55] <lstarnes> vede: in case the first one doesn't work
[23:56] <vede> Um...
[23:56] <vede> Okay...
[23:56] <lstarnes> vede: I usually use the second, but the first usually works
[23:56] <vede> Seems like a really stupid system...
[23:56] <lstarnes> ubuntu1: it is possible that nobody here has an answer or that somebody is looking for a possible solution
[23:57] <koshie> lstarnes: what ?
[23:57] <harjot_>  how would i use ssh to launch applications on the person im sshing?
[23:57] <harjot_>  how would i use ssh to launch applications on the person im sshing?
[23:57] <gamer24> now it is not working again, anyone have a possible solution?
[23:58] <lstarnes> harjot_: please wait at leats 15 minutes before repeating
[23:58] <lstarnes> *least
[23:58] <harjot_> yes accident
[23:58] <adam> when i open windows they open under other not on front ..why and how fix this..?
[23:58] <lstarnes> harjot_: you could try changing the DISPLAY environment variable
[23:58] <vede> Alright, so what was the command to stop the X server again?
[23:58] <harjot_> how?
[23:58] <lstarnes> harjot_: export DISPLAY=new-display-value
[23:59] <harjot_> umm..... how would i use this
[23:59] <lstarnes> harjot_: where new-display-value is the display number used by the user
[23:59] <lstarnes> harjot_: for example, :0.0
[23:59] <harjot_> and i want this to be temporary only
[23:59] <adam> please step by step   new persone here
[23:59] <fuzzman54> I switched from FAT to EXT4 and lost 100gb of capacity. Is that supposed to happen?
[23:59] <lstarnes> harjot_: it is temporary