[15:18] <dwidmann> zipper: well, if you don't use that particular service menu, you could rm the file ... let me see if I can find my valid one first thoug
[15:18] <dwidmann> wait, I removed d3lphin a long time ago ... forgot about that
[15:21] <rohan> anyone having sound problems with the latest kernel update in hardy? now in my laptop sound doesn't automute. it works everywhere in all other distros, and worked before this kernel update too.
[15:22] <rohan> i'm specifically talking about this image - 2.6.24-19.34
[15:23] <rohan> and tragedy is that i've deleted the older kernel, so i've got no way of checking
[15:24] <genii> That addaspodcst thing is an old known bug
[15:24] <rohan> genii: ah yes, i've got that bug too. any workarounds?
[15:25] <genii> Looking
[15:25] <ezzzam_> can i join
[15:25] <rohan> ezzzam_: you just did ;)
[15:25] <ezzzam_> ok thx
[15:26] <zipper> dwidmann, hmm okay.... What do you use instead then?
[15:26] <genii> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/199393
[15:26] <dwidmann> zipper: dolphin :)
[15:27] <dwidmann> dolphin >>>>>> d3lphin
[15:27] <zipper> dwidmann, hmm? d3lphin and dolphin is the same thing no?
[15:27] <jussio1> yes
[15:27] <dwidmann> no.
[15:27] <zipper> Oo
[15:27] <flaccid> i think i might comment on that bug
[15:27] <jussio1> !dolphin
[15:28] <dwidmann>  Dolphin: 1.0.99
[15:28] <zipper> flaccid, go for it
[15:28] <zipper> maybe i should file a bug report somewhere?
[15:28] <dwidmann> D3lphin: 0.9.2
[15:28] <flaccid> there already is one
[15:28] <ezzzam_> really i m new in this symste
[15:28] <zipper> oh okay
[15:28] <rohan> could anyone tell me how to install older kernel in ubuntu? older than 2.6.24-19.34 . i'm having sound issues in that one.
[15:29] <genii> rohan: Just hit ESC when grub starts then choose an earlier kernel from the list
[15:29] <rohan> genii: i deleted the older kernel.
[15:29] <dwidmann> rohan: you could probably download one of the older packages from archives.ubuntu.com, you'll have to go there in your browser though, you won't be able to apt-get it.
[15:30] <flaccid> updated: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/199393
[15:30] <pteague_work> is there some special shortcut in kubuntu for ctrl+shift+u ?  it seems to be 1 of the very few keyboard shortcuts i can't get to map things to
[15:30] <rohan> dwidmann: ah ok, thanks
[15:31] <zipper> I need the kernel module evdev - How do i check if i have this module? Or does anyone know if its already there in a fresh install of the latest kubuntu?
[15:31] <dwidmann> rohan: probably something like pool/l/linux-source/ or such
[15:32] <rohan> dwidmann: nice idea man :) thanks
[15:32] <rohan> dwidmann: unfortunately, no linux-source for 2.6.24 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/
[15:33] <dwidmann> rohan: I think the linux-image-* packages go in that folder ... however, I thought you wanted an older kernel, like 2.6.22?
[15:34] <rohan> dwidmann: ah it's now in pool/main/l/linux. found it. thanks :)
[15:35] <rohan> no old version of -19 package there. the latest available is -19.34
[15:36] <dwidmann> rohan: old ones are deleted after release I think
[15:36] <dwidmann> rohan:  you'll probably have to go with an older one like 2.6.22
[15:36] <Gigadelic_IIDX> maybe i canget some help here
[15:36] <Gigadelic_IIDX> is there a commandline so i can change a files and folders to the right group?
[15:37] <rohan> dwidmann: no, i'll have to make do with 2.6.24-18 i guess :)
[15:38] <dwidmann> ooh, it's still there then, you're lucky :)
[15:39] <rohan> ;)
[15:39] <rohan> thanks for the help, i'll have to reboot to complete the install
[15:39] <rohan> bye :)
[15:39] <dwidmann> bye
[15:57] <zipper> !flash
[15:58] <RiotingPacifist> has anybody played kq lives?
[16:07] <dwidmann> Okay, so I've got a multifunction printer that can do CDs, I can easily select which tray to print to with cups, so i just select the cd printing tray, so the problem arises in that I need some sort of template so that I can "hit" the cd when I try to print. Does anybody know anything that might be of use to me?
[16:08] <albi> ciao
[16:08] <albi> !list
[16:08] <shempal> caio
[16:09] <shempal> anybody from Persia here?
[16:11] <dwidmann> Not me .... though there are certainly people from all over the world here on a regular basis :)
[16:13] <shempal> this is frist time I am here
[16:13] <shempal> don't know what's going on
[16:14] <lullideath> my first time here too
[16:14] <shempal> then we are strangers hanging out
[16:14] <lullideath> lol
[16:14] <shempal> I should say Hi, how are you doing?
[16:15] <lullideath> not bad,u?
[16:15] <shempal> a little bit tired.
[16:16] <lullideath> i just switched back to kde
[16:17] <shempal> wellcome back home!!
[16:18] <lullideath> :D
[16:18] <shempal> where are you from?
[16:18] <lullideath> just change Sigma system monitor to fit my eeep
[16:18] <lullideath> eeepc*
[16:19] <lullideath> i am from china, u?
[16:19] <shempal> pretty close to you
[16:19] <shempal> living in Malaysia
[16:19] <lullideath> cool
[16:20] <shempal> gotta go man
[16:20] <shempal> take care and have fun with KDE
[16:20] <shempal> ;)
[16:20] <lullideath> KDE is inspiring, love it
[16:21] <joe3177> hi is someone there to help me understand this software
[16:22] <joe3177> hi lis
[16:22] <lullideath> what software are you trying to understand?
[16:23] <joe3177> kubuntu software pleace
[16:25] <joe3177> pleace i am new to linux and i need some basic of how to use it and install
[16:26] <joe3177> i need basic commands on linux
[16:29] <v0lksman> hey all!  anyone know where I can get a deb for ktorrent 3.1 for 8.04?
[16:30] <ralf_> v0lksman, did you try "sudo apt-get install ktorrent" ?
[16:30] <stdin> it'll probably get packaged when kde 4.1 comes out
[16:31] <v0lksman> ralf_: yeah...its older 2.X series...
[16:31] <v0lksman> stdin: I don't wanna wait... ;)  I tried to build my own package but it seems things a little different with KDE packages...(total n00b when it comes to packaging)...
[16:32] <helpy> anyone knows about kernel ?
[16:32] <helpy> can you upgrade kernel ?
[16:32] <v0lksman> ah well...I'll keep working at the package...jdong used to build packages from milestone releases but he's disappeared...
[16:32] <stdin> helpy: kernel updates come like any other updates via the package manager
[16:33] <helpy> so when i run apt-get update, it updates everything?
[16:33] <stdin> 'apt-get dist-upgrade' will
[16:33] <helpy> is that safe ?
[16:33] <stdin> safe as any other update
[16:34] <ralf_> i would not do that =P
[16:34] <helpy> i see a recovery mode at start
[16:34] <helpy> whats that ?
[16:34] <stdin> helpy: it logs you into a text-only mode as root so you can fix your system if something goes wrong
[16:34] <adflinux> hey  hi!!!!!!!!!!11
[16:34] <adflinux> alguien de VEracruz
[16:34] <adflinux> !!!!!!!!!!!!11
[16:35] <helpy> you need to be proficient with commands for that
[16:35] <helpy> dont you ?
[16:35] <stdin> well, you need to know how to navigate the cli, yes
[16:35] <helpy> how do you fix that anyways?
[16:35] <stdin> you could also just load the Live CD and mount your root from there to have a GUI
[16:35] <helpy> i am interested in backin up my linux
[16:35] <helpy> but i have no idea how to do that
[16:36] <stdin> !backup
[16:36] <helpy> i dont have cd
[16:36] <helpy> i have installed via wubi
[16:38] <adflinux> SPEAK SPANISCH!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????????????
[16:38] <genii> !es | adflinux
[16:39] <TimS> !kde4
[16:39] <genii> adflinux: #ubuntu-br Brasil
[16:39] <adflinux> OKOKO
[16:39] <adflinux> MUCHAS
[16:39] <adflinux> GRACIAS
[16:52] <lulu> salut
[16:53] <ubuntu_> Anyone able to help with grub?
[16:54] <lulu> is there french people here?
[16:54] <Jahromeo> non
[16:54] <jussi01> !anyone | ubuntu
[16:54] <Jahromeo> !french
[16:54] <lulu> thanks
[16:54] <Jahromeo> merci
[16:54] <Jahromeo> arvoir
[16:54] <lulu> salut
[16:55] <lulu> est ce que les jeux fonctionnent avec wine?
[16:55] <eagles0513875> !fr | lulu
[16:56] <platius> Jahromeo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto   you might look here.
[16:57] <RiotingPacifist> !silverlight
[16:57] <RiotingPacifist> !moonlight
[16:57] <eagles0513875> !info moonlight
[16:58] <eagles0513875> RiotingPacifist: that what you wanted
[16:58] <helpy> how do i install tar.gz package
[16:58] <eagles0513875> helpy: extract it
[16:58] <helpy> homebackup won't work. how do i install it from tar.gz ? i have extracted it in a folder on desktop
[16:58] <helpy> i already have
[16:58] <eagles0513875> helpy: is it source
[16:58] <helpy> can't see an executable on it
[16:58] <eagles0513875> helpy: on linux you wont
[16:59] <helpy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHomeBackup?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-home-backup-0.1.tar.gz
[16:59] <eagles0513875> helpy: you trying to install it from source
[16:59] <RiotingPacifist> i was hoping for a guide on how to install it, but i dont think there is one (well not in ubotu anyway)
[16:59] <helpy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHomeBackup
[16:59] <eagles0513875> helpy: have you tried searching in the repos for it
[17:00] <helpy> it didnt work through terminal
[17:00] <eagles0513875> helpy: try this in terminal
[17:00] <eagles0513875> helpy: you on ubuntu or kubuntu
[17:00] <helpy> kubutu
[17:00] <helpy> kubuntu
[17:01] <eagles0513875> helpy:
[17:01] <eagles0513875> ok
[17:01] <eagles0513875> open the konsole = terminal (konsole kde name)
[17:01] <helpy> i have
[17:02] <eagles0513875> helpy: run the following sudo build-dep (name of pkg here)
[17:02] <helpy> whats the package name ?
[17:02] <helpy> ubuntubackuphome ?
[17:02] <eagles0513875> ya
[17:03] <jussi01> sudo apt-get build-dep maybe?
[17:03] <eagles0513875> helpy: go into the folder that u extracted and run that command
[17:03] <eagles0513875> jussi01: thanks
[17:04] <jussi01> !u > eagles0513875
[17:04] <Jahromeo> can anyone assist me with this : http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?p=1854079#post1854079
[17:04] <Jahromeo> its a grub issue
[17:04] <Jahromeo> but its really long so i posted a link
[17:04] <eagles0513875> jussi01: thanks again
[17:04]  * eagles0513875 smacks self with trout
[17:04] <eagles0513875> helpy: whats it doing
[17:04] <helpy> how do i do that ?
[17:05] <eagles0513875> helpy: where did u save the source
[17:05] <eagles0513875> to the desktop
[17:06] <jussi01> !grub | Jahromeo, follow the lost grub advice here
[17:26]  * genii sips his coffee
[17:29]  * eagles0513875 pulls out shotgun
[17:34] <tzanger> good afternoon, I have a question regarding the kde desktop... new user, kde desktop contains all the directories from /
[17:35] <oblenob> woohoo
[17:35] <oblenob> I am in :)
[17:36] <oblenob> I  have finally got Kubuntu up and running :)
[17:57] <wimpies> i want to run a command when the ethernet board comes up.  I checked ifup/down and added a script only to find out that apparently eth0 is not upped that way.  Where is the proper place to put a script like that ?
[18:05] <corinth> How do I reconfigure my Ubuntu to use the KDE login screen instead?
[18:05] <genii> wimpies: In /etc/network the directories of if-down.d  if-post-down.d  if-pre-up.d  if-up.d      contain things to do before,during and after bringing an interface up
[18:06] <genii> Or down, as well
[18:08] <genii> corinth: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[18:08] <genii> corinth: Choose kdm for login manager there
[18:08] <wimpies> genii : yes I thought that too but the interfaces files does not conain any reference to eth0 but still the card is upped properly
[18:09] <corinth> Thanks genii, I was trying to use sudo dpkg --reconfigure kdm , just guessing. Hehe. Thanks, again.
[18:10] <genii> wimpies: When there is no entry in the file /etc/network/interfaces    for instance, the networkmanager automatically brings them up using whatever it uses and bypassing the stuff in that directory
[18:11] <wimpies> OK, so if I want to run a command should I set it up in the if-up-down location or should I use the network manager ?
[18:13] <jp88> genii: Yo bro im back
[18:15] <genii> wimpies: You could run network-manager in a way like:     knetworkmanager & <scriptnamehere> &             or put a script into /etc/rc.local    or else manually configure the interface in /etc/network/interfaces (bypassing network manager) and then it uses the other scripts I mentioned in same directory there
[18:15] <genii> jp88: Hiya.
[18:16] <jp88> genii: was comsidering reinstalling...but i am hoping there another solution.  So if I don't respond for a long time don't assume I've forgotten or abandoned you, just that work needs me for a time.
[18:20] <Meradim> moin
[18:20] <jp88> genii: kk
[18:20] <zipper> Anyone got experience with evrouter? Or managed to remap the "+" and "-" keys on a logitech mx518 mouse? (the ones to increase/decrease resolution of the mouse). I found a guide on how to remap those keys with evrouter, but i must be doing something wrong since they are not re-mapped (or being used at all). Xev cannot register any input from the mouse when i press those buttons either. Any ideas?
[18:22] <jp88> genii: Im in ubutu now
[18:26] <genii> jp88: OK please pastebin result of:   sudo fdisk -l       so I can remember which drive it is we need to work on again :)
[18:30] <genii> jp88: Welcome back :)
[18:31] <alxju> hi! I use FF3 and Thunderbird with kubuntu 8.04. Mailto link doesnt work... what can i do (about:config/ mailto is yet configured to /usr/bin/thunderbid; thunderbird is set a my default mail app in kde..)
[18:31] <jp88> genii: will post link soon
[18:37] <jp89> http://pastebin.com/d276c8cb4 fdisk
[18:37] <genii> Reading
[18:38] <alxju> nobody use firefox and thunderbird ?
[18:39] <luis> use firefox is very good
[18:39] <genii> jp89: OK. So then:   sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt                then see if you can list any files off the old drive in that directory of /mnt   with: ls /mnt            just tell me if it lists anything or not, don't paste the result of the command :)
[18:41] <alxju> and, luis: do you kno how to open mailto link to thunderbird (using firefox) ?
[18:41] <jp89> the first command gives me an error
[18:43] <jp89> http://pastebin.com/d3ec03959
[18:43] <Barracuda> Hi Guys
[18:44] <genii> jp89: Put a space there in between sda1 and /mnt
[18:44] <Barracuda> I am trying to install Kubuntu 8.04
[18:44] <jp89> says already mounted according to mtab
[18:44] <Barracuda> and trying to do manual partition the harddisk...What are some of the basis partition I must create to make Kubuntu run smoothly?
[18:45] <eagles0513875> what do i need to install when running!kernel
[18:45] <eagles0513875> !kernel
[18:45] <jp89> genii: ran ls /mnt and got a list of files
[18:46] <Barracuda> I know I have to create / and make it primary but not sure what else to create after that??
[18:47] <genii> jp89: Good. Then we can get to the tricky parts now :) To avoid typos, copy from my lines here right into konsole.
[18:47] <jp89> kk
[18:48] <genii> jp89: echo "hostname" | sudo tee /mnt/etc/hostname;sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /mnt/etc/network/;sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/
[18:48] <genii> jp89: Let me know after that one runs
[18:48] <jp89> done
[18:48] <jp89> said hostname
[18:49] <genii> jp89: Great. Next.
[18:49] <genii> jp89: cat /etc/hosts | sed "s/`cat /etc/hostname`/`cat /mnt/etc/hostname`/" | sudo tee /mnt/etc/hosts
[18:49] <jp89> k done
[18:49] <genii> jp89: Next
[18:50] <genii> jp89: sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev;sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys;sudo mount -t proc /proc /mnt/proc
[18:50] <jp89> was something meant to happen
[18:52] <genii> jp89: Not yet
[18:52] <jp89> k
[18:52] <jp89> next
[18:52] <joan> hello
[18:52] <genii> jp89: Now we should be ready to make the old partition into our current root filesystem by:     sudo chroot /mnt
[18:53] <jp89> k im now root
[18:53] <genii> jp89: After that command, whatever you do there affects the partition. So we want to install some usable kernel image in there.
[18:53] <jp89> kool
[18:55] <genii> jp89: eg:    sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic                     (since the last one seemed to be the problemmatic one)
[18:55] <genii> jp89: I forgot no "sudo" in this case is needed since we are root there. But it should not affect the command
[18:55] <_CrashMaster_> Is there anything nifty in the xorg updates?
[18:55] <jp89> do i use the command or is that just an eg
[18:56] <jp89> ok ok i get it
[18:56] <genii> jp89: You were running Hardy yes?
[18:56] <jp89> yes
[18:56] <genii> jp89: Then:   apt-get update; apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic
[18:57] <jp89> k it running
[18:57] <genii> jp89: Pastebin any errors. I'll be back in a minute or 3
[18:57] <jp89> k
[18:58] <jp89> genii: http://pastebin.com/d91de253 error
[19:00] <jp89> genii: http://pastebin.com/d772e2fe0 full list + error
[19:02] <genii> jp89: Back. Reading your pastebin
[19:02] <jp89> genii: check both
[19:04] <genii> jp89: The cdrom is listed in your sources.list file. So in this case we must comment it out. By:     nano /etc/apt/sources.list                     and then put a # in front of the lines on top which have the word "cdrom" or so in them. Then ctrl-x to exit. Press Y key when it asks to save. Then just Enter key when it wants the filename. Thenretry the previous command of:  apt-get update; apt-get install sudo apt-get update; sudo
[19:04] <genii> apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic
[19:05] <genii> Bah
[19:05] <genii> jp89: apt-get update; apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic                                           rather is the right one :)
[19:06] <jp89> error opening terminal: xterm
[19:06] <jp89> when i run the nano command
[19:07] <genii> jp89: OK. So in the livecd, do:    alt-f2   then: kdesu kate /mnt/etc/apt/sources.list
[19:09] <genii> jp89: Change it from there and save. Then back in the chroot, do: apt-get update                     then the suggested: dpkg --configure -a             then once more:  apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic
[19:10]  * genii sips his coffee
[19:10] <jp89> the command isnt suited to ubuntu
[19:11] <jp89> the app not found
[19:11] <genii> jp89: Ah. On the alt-f2?
[19:12] <jp89> sorry. thought ctrl-alt-f2
[19:12] <jp89> this one tells me unable to load file
[19:12] <jp89> :'(
[19:13] <nalioth> anyone got a minute to help me with konqueror servicemenus ?
[19:13] <genii> jp89: If ubuntu cd and not kubuntu cd then do instead:  alt-f2 gksu gedit /mnt/etc/apt/sources.list                     otherwise the kubuntu way is still: alt-f2 kdesu kate /mnt/etc/apt/sources.list
[19:13] <jp89> alt-f2 doesnt work by me
[19:14] <genii> jp89: Click anyplace on desktop there is no window open (like Konsole for instance)   then hit alt-f2 which should open a little box to type in the name of something to run
[19:15] <jp89> tried on another session still no luck
[19:15] <pim> What is the correct way to use grep to find running processes?
[19:15] <eagles0513875> pim: just use top
[19:15] <pim> And how do I do that?
[19:16] <genii> jp89: "another session" ?
[19:16] <eagles0513875> pim: lists running proesses in that are running
[19:16] <eagles0513875> pim: ps does it as well
[19:17] <jp89> i meant a different screen
[19:17] <jp89> the one on the right
[19:17] <eagles0513875> pim: open konsole and type in either ps or top
[19:17] <jp89> but alt-f2 doesnt work
[19:17] <pim> I see
[19:18] <pim> ps doesn't give me much, top is much better I think
[19:18] <genii> jp89: OK. So open a new Konsole. Leave the chroot one there for a moment. In the new Konsole write:  kdesu kate /mnt/etc/apt/sources.list
[19:18] <genii> And hit Enter
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> pim: try ps -ef | grep <some text>
[19:19] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: hey
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> yo eagles0513875
[19:19] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: how are  ya
[19:19] <genii> jp89: Did that open the gui text editor with the right file in it?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: i gave up on trying to get ktorrent through webmin
[19:20] <eagles0513875> pim: btw top is more live kinda processes constantly updating
[19:20] <jp89> err no. went through mu computer and got to the file
[19:21] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: O_o
[19:21] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: webmin isnt for ktorrent
[19:22] <genii> jp89: The problem: If you just open up kate and try to edit that file, it won't work. It needs to be run with admin rights. Which means to have kdesu or kdesuo in front of the command. Or if in gnome and not kde then gksu or gksudo in front of the appname of gedit
[19:22] <jriopka> hello all
[19:22] <jriopka> anyone know of a socionics irc room?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: i wanted it to connect to the web interface and show the screen rather than opening 2 ports
[19:22] <genii> jp89: Please try not to improvise :)
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> genii: is there a difference between kdesu and kdesudo???
[19:23] <pim> can I also scroll down the list with processes using top?
[19:23] <jp89> when i try it says gtk warning **: cannot open display: :0.0
[19:23] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: never heard of kdesudo only kdesu
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> pim: id use ps -ef with grep so you get something intelligent
[19:23] <eagles0513875> pim: should be able to
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: i know of both but use kdesudo
[19:24] <pim> How?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> pim: what are yuo trying to achieve??
[19:24] <martijn81> hey, can someone tell me why i have no plugins in the lastest KTorrent-kde4 package from the repo's?
[19:24] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: she said top yields more information
[19:24] <pim> ActionParsnip nothing special, I'm trying to figure out how to show processes etc.
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> martin_mdp: plugins for what?
[19:24] <jp89> what if i log in as root. wont that work
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> jp89: dont log in as root
[19:25] <jp89> k
[19:25] <martijn81> ActionParsnip: plugins for everything, i only have the queue manager tab in infowidget at the moment, no wait i do not even have the info widget there....
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> martin_mdp: you on about in configure ktorrent and you enable stuff??
[19:27] <martijn81> ActionParsnip: yeah, but the plugin page is missing ALL of it's plugins womehow
[19:27] <martijn81> somehow
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> martin_mdp: ahh i see
[19:27] <martin_mdp> ActionParsnip: hi there, never used Ktorrent, but let meknow
[19:27] <genii> ActionParsnip: Yes, there is a difference. kdesu you can run the app as any arbitrary user. not specified user means root. kdesudo only can run it as root
[19:29] <genii> ActionParsnip: He has a chrooted old kubuntu partition there. So he realy can't help being on as root there. The other one is the livecd which is also not that well secured from root login either.
[19:29] <martijn81> ActionParsnip: i tried to get along with this by requesting an update for KTorrent here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent-kde4/+bug/234514  , but nobody have seemed to respond to that.
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> martin_mdp: /usr/lib64/kde4/  maybe
[19:29] <pim> Lets say that I typed sudo lshw, how can I scroll up and down through the list?
[19:29] <martin_mdp> see ya folks
[19:30] <genii> jp89: OK. So in the second Konsole (not the one with the chroot running) try from there:   sudo nano /mnt/etc/apt/sources.list
[19:30] <stdin> pim: sudo lshw | less
[19:31] <pim> stdin thanks, but can't I just scroll freely?
[19:31] <yurimxpxman> where's the kde 4 wallpaper stored? I'd like to use it in kde 3
[19:31] <jp89> k im in
[19:32] <martijn81> ActionParsnip: sorry, that does not say me anything
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: some folks have accidentally compiled to there
[19:32] <stdin> pim: shift + PgUp/Down should work too, but it depends on the buffer your terminal has to how much you can scroll
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: they may be in there
[19:32] <genii> jp89: Good. So remember:  put a # in front of the few lines at top where it has something like "cdrom" in the line. Then ctrl-x to exit. Then Y key when asked to save. Then Enter key to have same filename.
[19:32] <pim> stdin thanks
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: i'd uninstall and purge then reinstall
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: just do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --purge remove ktorrent; sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[19:33] <genii> jp89: Then close that second Konsole and go back to the one in which chroot is running.
[19:33] <jp89> k
[19:33] <martijn81> ActionParsnip: thanks, but i already tried that; then i have the same error as you can read here: http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2502&highlight=automoc
[19:33] <martijn81> hey thanks, will do that too man!
[19:34] <pim> stdin actually just using sudo lshw|less allowes you to scroll up and down as well
[19:34] <genii> jp89: Back in the chroot, do: apt-get update                     then the suggested: dpkg --configure -a             then once more:  apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: dont specify kde4 when you install just put ktorrent
[19:34] <stdin> pim: yeah, less replaces the terminals buffer so you can view huge files
[19:35] <martijn81> ActionParsnip: no i want the kde4 version :D
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: uninstall ktorrent-kde4 and install ktorrent
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: it may give you what you need, make a choice
[19:35] <martijn81> ActionParsnip: weird thing,  is that this package has worked for me before
[19:35] <martijn81> ok
[19:36] <pim> Hm strange I was suddenly logged out, is that normal?
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: i use kde4 upgraded from kde3 and have no issues, if you did the same you have kde3 libs it will use
[19:36]  * genii sips his coffee and waits for a progress report from jp89
[19:36] <Meradim> hi
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Meradim
[19:36] <jp89> lol still busy running dpkg
[19:37] <martijn81> ActionParsnip: i do not believe i am able todo such thing ;)
[19:37] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know where the default kde 4 kubuntu wallpaper is located?
[19:37] <Meradim> Someone expert in configuring wlan via pcmcia ?
[19:38] <genii> jp89: OK. I'm gonna go for a cig. Back in a few minutes
[19:38] <engineer> cig sigh
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: i dont follow
[19:39] <stdin> yurimxpxman: somewhere in /usr/lib/kde4/share/wallpapers
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: ktorrent is the way man, works great
[19:39] <jp89> genii: http://pastebin.com/d6635b494 error report
[19:39] <yurimxpxman> stdin: thanks!
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: install php5 too and web control is yours :D
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> yurimxpxman: awesome backgrounds at www.vladstudio.com
[19:41] <martijn81> i do not think i am able todo such thing with upgrading from kde3. At the moment i just use the neon kde4 package from deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu hardy main
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> yurimxpxman: i use underwater
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: try installing ktorrent instead of ktorrent-kde4
[19:41] <genii> jp89: Please pastebin result of command:  apt-cache search linux|grep image
[19:42] <martijn81> ActionParsnip: yeah, but then i need to re-import all my torrents, seeing ktorrent kde3 version uses other temp files
[19:42] <martijn81> plus i will loose all my statics
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: then id let all your stuff come down and sort it out
[19:42] <jp89> genii: http://pastebin.com/d6d4fa5a2
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> then you're gonna have to live pluginless
[19:43] <martijn81> hehe
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> the bandwidth scheduling is sweeeet
[19:43] <martijn81> i think i will wait on a new package
[19:43] <martijn81> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent-kde4/+bug/234514 seems to be in progress anyway
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: you could always get the source and compile them
[19:44] <martijn81> bandwidth scheduling in ktorrent-kde4 is much more easier to use
[19:44] <Meradim> hmm
[19:45] <martijn81> no, them i would fail with some kind of automoc package failure i have never had before
[19:45] <genii> Hmm.
[19:45] <martijn81> then
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> automoc?
[19:45] <genii> !info linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic
[19:45] <martijn81> yeah, never heard of that one before have you?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: apparently not
[19:46] <pim> Can I write the output of a command to a file?
[19:46] <martijn81> http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2502&highlight=automoc same failure as there
[19:46] <martijn81> i hope someone knows though
[19:47] <yurimxpxman> pim: command > filename
[19:47] <pim> thanks
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> martijn81: sudo apt-get install automoc from http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2500
[19:48] <martijn81> Package automoc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[19:48] <martijn81> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[19:48] <martijn81> is only available from another source
[19:48] <martijn81> E: Package automoc has no installation candidat
[19:48] <jussi01> !find automoc
[19:48] <martijn81> hmmmm
[19:48] <martijn81> :)
[19:48] <genii> jp89: dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic; apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> something to chew over dude
[19:48] <martijn81> :p
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> spain vs russia
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> peace out
[19:49] <Meradim> anyone expert in configuring wlan about pcmcia ?
[19:49] <jp89> k it running
[19:49] <pim> yurimxpxman thanks it works :p
[19:50] <genii> jp89: Pastebin any errors, I'll be back in a minute or so
[19:50] <yurimxpxman> pim: np
[19:51] <jp89> k
[19:52] <martijn81> jussi01: i tried to install kde4libs-dbg, the other two were already installed.... and i get this
[19:52] <stdin> martijn81: if you're using the kde beta1 or beta2, there is a new automoc package
[19:53] <jussi01> martijn81: also, you will probably get better answers in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[19:53] <martijn81> stdin: i use the neon nightly version AND the beta2 version, i am now logged in via KDM in the nightly session
[19:53] <martijn81> ok
[19:53] <stdin> then you need the automoc package
[19:54] <martijn81> stdin: yeah but there does not seem to an unique one
[19:56] <stdin> it's called "automoc"
[19:56] <stdin> !info automoc kubuntu-members-kde4
[19:56] <yurimxpxman> are there any good KDE frontends to vim? gvim's all I've been able to find
[19:57] <martijn81> yurimxpxman: there has been development on one, but they decided to stop doing so
[19:57] <martijn81> forgot the name
[19:58] <martijn81> stdin: ok but what do i have todo now, because i have this kubuntu-members-kde4 line in my /etc/apt/sources.list and i do not seem to get that package listed with apt-get
[19:58] <genii> jp89: Did it return yet to a command prompt?
[19:58] <zipper> I have a logitech mx518 mouse, and i want to re-map the "+" and "-" buttons. However, none of these buttons generate an input in xev. I've tried following this guide ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894 ) but with little luck. Anyone got an idea?
[19:59] <jp89> yes but is this normal http://pastebin.com/d203d97b4
[20:00] <martijn81> stdin: oops i seem to have forgotten that i commented that line out, i am very sorry!
[20:00] <genii> jp89: No.  :/
[20:01] <jp89> damn
[20:01] <jp89> no surprise
[20:03] <pim> Is it wise to add colour to your grub boot-menu?
[20:07] <genii> jp89: From a second Konsole again:      sudo cp -aR /lib/udev/* /mnt/lib/udev/                    then back to chrooted Konsole and tiredly: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic
[20:08] <genii> jp89: It looks like perhaps the original update messed up the udev subsystem there
[20:09] <helpy> !backup
[20:09] <martijn81> stdin: you saved my day!!
[20:09] <jp89> here we go
[20:09] <jp89> hmmm its dome
[20:10] <jp89> *done
[20:10] <genii> jp89: With the apt-get install part?
[20:10] <jp89> ya
[20:10] <genii> jp89: Good.  I'm getting bored without those daily updates :)
[20:18] <jp88> genii: grub error 15
[20:18] <jp88> i swear grub loves me
[20:18] <genii> hehe
[20:20] <kirkt> hey ppl, is firefox3 working for linux?
[20:21] <z1pp3r> works for me
[20:21] <kirkt> can i apt-get that somehow?
[20:22] <genii> jp88: Hmm. I'm thinking it still has the old -19-generic entry perhaps as default. Are you able to get into grub with ESC and then choose the one we just put to boot up instead?
[20:22] <jp88> doesnt give me that option
[20:22] <z1pp3r> kirkt, sure
[20:22] <jp88> usually it says press esc
[20:22] <kirkt> whats the package name? firefox3 doesnt work it seems
[20:23] <jp88> but this doesnt. just says error 15
[20:23] <genii> jp88: Try pressing it even if you don't see it saying "PRess ESC"  etc etc
[20:23] <z1pp3r> kirkt, firefox-3.0
[20:23] <kirkt> thanks
[20:23] <z1pp3r> np
[20:23] <StephanS_> i think firefox 3 destroyed my hdd a few days ago *gg*
[20:23] <jp88> k brb
[20:23] <jp88> hope not
[20:23] <StephanS_> system was winxp
[20:23] <ellypho> Hey anybody gotta link to a how-to on getting e17 on ubuntu
[20:23] <z1pp3r> more likely that winxp destroyed your hdd....
[20:24] <genii> Ah, no big loss then
[20:24] <jp88> seee u now now
[20:24] <StephanS_> now, i have a new hdd and try to use linux....only fpr internet
[20:24] <StephanS_> fpr =for
[20:25] <StephanS_> but there is a problem with the pcmcia wlan card
[20:25] <z1pp3r> wireless in linux can sometimes be a real b****
[20:26] <genii> Especially Broadcoms
[20:26] <StephanS_> last year i tried it with the dapper drake, but it didn't work
[20:27] <StephanS_> today i download the new Kubuntu 8.04, but the pcmcia card doesn't work either
[20:29] <lordnps> Hi everyone. Just finished installing kubuntu... anyone there who could give me a hand with a few things(getting compiz, firefox etc)?
[20:29] <StephanS_> the card is from cc&c, an is part of the Gericom Hummer FX 5600, chip ist Realtek 8180
[20:29] <engineer> sudo aptitude install firefox
[20:30] <lordnps> engineer: mhm... not apt-get?
[20:30] <engineer> sudo aptitude install compiz-core
[20:30] <engineer> aptitude is better at handling dependencies
[20:30] <z1pp3r> You ever had dependency problems with apt-get? I never did
[20:30] <lordnps> engineer: I tryied installing compz in the desktop effects thingy, but it claims it cannot find "compiz-kde"
[20:31] <engineer> z1pp3r i had
[20:31] <_sourcemaker> i have installed the ubuntu server edition and it's working pretty cool... are there documentation to secure the server (LAMP) as well as installing security updates?
[20:31] <engineer> and aptitude finds several solutions when stuff breaks
[20:31] <lordnps> both are availble by default?
[20:32] <engineer> both?
[20:32] <lordnps> apt-get and aptitude
[20:32] <engineer> yeah
[20:32] <engineer> about compiz-kde
[20:32] <lordnps> mhm... about the Desktop effects
[20:32] <engineer> you must enable some repositories
[20:32] <lordnps> mhm universe?
[20:32] <genii> !info compiz-kde
[20:33] <genii> Yes, universe
[20:33] <lordnps> (I had a couple of weeks of ubuntu
[20:33] <engineer> i had a couple of years
[20:33] <lordnps> though kubuntu comes with much less stuff :(
[20:33] <engineer> yep
[20:33] <engineer> less bloat
[20:35] <lordnps> anyways, I'm kind of new to this, How do I enable those repositories?
[20:35] <lordnps> I'm in Portugal, it autoconfigured some portuguese servers
[20:35] <lullideath> lordnps, you installed the kubuntu with KDE3.5?
[20:35] <engineer> system -> softwre sources
[20:35] <lordnps> lullideath: yes
[20:36] <axel> Hello! Is there a program or extension for Firefox, Opera, Konqueror I can download the sites of a mediaWiki with?
[20:36] <lullideath> i just installed the kubuntu with KDE4 remix, compiz is right in the repositoriy
[20:36] <genii> Whats wrong with wget?
[20:37] <pim> Thanks for the help everyone
[20:37] <pim> bye bye
[20:37] <lordnps> engineer: in system there's no software sources
[20:37] <engineer> sudo aptitude install software-properties-kde
[20:38] <lordnps> engineer: sure
[20:38] <lordnps> engineer: done
[20:38] <engineer> it should show up now
[20:38] <axel> genii: Wait. I'm goint to try that.
[20:38] <jp88> genii: im gonna kill ubuntu
[20:39] <jp88> genii: esc doesnt work
[20:39] <lordnps> engineer: it doesn't :((
[20:39] <ShadowKnight> hello everyone
[20:39] <lordnps> engineer: you mean in K-menu, system right?
[20:39] <engineer> err
[20:39] <engineer> sudo aptitude install software-properties-gtk
[20:40] <engineer> try this one
[20:40] <damien__> Does anyone know a good GBC/GBA emulator I can download preferably by a debian package, or that is easy to compile?
[20:40] <lordnps> engineer: ok
[20:40] <ShadowKnight> damien_ : vba
[20:40] <damien__> Thanks
[20:40] <ShadowKnight> http://vba.ngemu.com/ damien_ , here is the link
[20:40] <lordnps> engineer: Doesn't find the package
[20:41] <lordnps> engineer: this is getting ugly :\
[20:41] <ShadowKnight> Does anyone know of audio recording problems in Hardy?
[20:41] <pteague_work> how can i add the home button to my quick bar?
[20:41] <lordnps> engineer: isn't there a conf file in etc that I can just edit?
[20:41] <engineer> yeah
[20:41] <lordnps> engineer: choosing manually the repositories?
[20:41] <engineer> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:41] <damien__> ShadowKnight: Thanks
[20:41] <ShadowKnight> pteague_work just drag and drop, no?
[20:41] <mitsarionas> does anyone use amsn?
[20:42] <ShadowKnight> np damien_
[20:42] <lordnps> engineer: now what?
[20:42] <engineer> uncomment lines that say universe and multiverse
[20:42] <lordnps> engineer: mhm.. it's well commented
[20:42] <ShadowKnight> So does anyone here know of audio recording problems in Hardy?
[20:42] <engineer> ok read on then local_
[20:42] <engineer> ok read on then lordnps
[20:43] <pteague_work> ShadowKnight: i'm not seeing it in the K menu (konqueror is there, but i can't seem to modify links specifically in the quick bar) & the system menu won't let me drag & drop out of it
[20:43] <ellypho> Does anybody know how to get E17 on Ubuntu
[20:43] <lullideath> ellypho, i think i saw a tutorial about that on the forum
[20:43] <ShadowKnight> pteague_work: open konqueror, and activate the navigation bar. On the top it should say "home folder"
[20:44] <damien__> ShadowKnight: VBA keeps trying to open in WINE :/
[20:44] <lordnps> engineer:
[20:44] <ShadowKnight> Drag that to the quick bar
[20:44] <ellypho> lullideath: THX
[20:44] <lordnps> engineer: I think I got them
[20:44] <engineer> sudo aptitude update
[20:44] <ShadowKnight> damien__: you downloaded the windows version
[20:44] <lordnps> engineer: now, I should update right?
[20:44] <lordnps> engineer: yes, that
[20:44] <ShadowKnight> damien__: you want the linux version
[20:44] <damien__> ShadowKnight: I downloaded the linux version >_>
[20:45] <lordnps> engineer: Dinner, brb, thanks by the help  xD
[20:45] <engineer> lordnps use synaptic for package management: sudo aptitude install synaptic
[20:45] <ShadowKnight> damien__: scroll down on this page http://vba.ngemu.com/downloads.shtml to Version 1.7.1
[20:45] <pteague_work> ShadowKnight: ah, ok...  nifty, but it's not giving me the nifty little house... not a huge issue, but would be nice to figure out how to change icons :)
[20:46] <ellypho> *Help* New ATI GPU gnome is using compiz, will boot go black then white all white cube lags
[20:46] <delilaz> hello every1, I just installed kubuntu 6.06 two days ago and the mouse is acting up. By sudden movements or by a shake the mouse begins to open/change window eratically. Is there anything I can do????
[20:46] <ShadowKnight> pteague_work: you're welcome
[20:46] <damien__> ShadowKnight: I've got that one, but now when I click the VisualBoyAdvance executable, nothing happens :/
[20:46] <pteague_work> nm, just figured the icon thing out :)
[20:46] <ShadowKnight> The linux version is a tar.gz damien__ , is that what you have?
[20:47] <ShadowKnight> You have to extract it into a folder
[20:47] <damien__> ShadowKnight: I did, and I clicked the executable, and nothing happened
[20:47] <ShadowKnight> damien__:  open a console
[20:47] <ShadowKnight> run it in console
[20:47] <pteague_work> hehe, open a console &...
[20:47] <damien__> ShadowKnight: Oh okay
[20:47] <pookey> hi all - I downloaded the KDE4 reloaded CD - bt when it bootsI 'm just left with an 'initramfs' prompt which appears to be busybox - no other output.  I've tried graphics safe mode, but have had no luck. any ideas?
[20:48] <ShadowKnight> damien__:  like this : ./VisualBoyAdvance insertgamenamehere
[20:48] <jussi01> pookey: try asking in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[20:48] <pookey> thanks jussi01 :)
[20:48] <damien__> ShadowKnight, thanks I see :P
[20:48] <ShadowKnight> damien__:  the games should be in the same folder as the emulator
[20:48] <ShadowKnight> damien__:  you're welcome
[20:49] <ShadowKnight> Now can anyone help me with my sound recording problems?
[20:50] <ShadowKnight> Anything that records sound just hangs now (i.e.  sound recorder, Audacity). They worked in older Kubuntus
[20:50] <ShadowKnight> Anyone know of such a problem?
[20:50] <rickest> ShadowKnight: configured to use 'alsa'?
[20:51] <ShadowKnight> Yes, I think. Do you know how to check that?
[20:51] <rickest> ShadowKnight: I'd imagine it's set on a per-application basis
[20:52] <ShadowKnight> Well then it's a bit more complicate  rickest . Audacity is set to ALSA but it doesn't record, yet it doesn't hang. Sound recorder is on OSS I believe, and it does hang.
[20:52] <ShadowKnight> When I set Audacity to use OSS it hangs too.
[20:53] <rickest> ShadowKnight: maybe run 'alsamixer' and make sure your mic is on/not muted
[20:53] <ShadowKnight> I've heard of several problems involving PulseAudio, but as far as I can tell, my system's not running it.
[20:53] <ShadowKnight> rickest: done that.
[20:54] <ShadowKnight> rickest: but I'll double check, hang on
[20:54] <rickest> ShadowKnight: ah, sorry then that's about the extent of my ability to help
[20:54] <ShadowKnight> rickest:  Thanks anyway.
[20:54] <ellypho> Can anybody help me with my ATI 1650 pro driver troubles?
[20:54] <ShadowKnight> rickest: by the way, the problem doesn't involve the mic: it won't even take output audio.
[20:55] <Guest58586> how can i remove anything that has a gui?, (including gmd, xorg, gnome, etc)
[20:55] <genii> Guest58586: Install server edition
[20:55] <Guest58586> how?
[20:55] <rickest> Guest58586: download server .ISO and install that
[20:55] <Guest58586> u already have an existing kubuntu install....
[20:55] <ShadowKnight> Guest58586: Are you fluent in the command line?
[20:55] <Guest58586> i***
[20:55] <Guest58586> i know enough to be toublesome
[20:56] <ShadowKnight> Guest58586: Do you want to be able to view graphic files?
[20:56] <rickest> Guest58586: you could try 'apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop' then 'apt-get autoremove'. that might get everything GUI-related
[20:56] <Guest58586> its a server so i need to remove anything unneeded
[20:57] <rickest> Guest58586: however, a better plan would have been to install ubuntu-server from the start
[20:57] <genii> Guest58586: Since they are mostly metapackages, removal with --purge of ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop           if they exist there. Then you could run: sudo tasksel            and choose LAMP Server
[20:57] <ShadowKnight> Guest58586:  then I'd agree with genii and rickest: get server edition.
[20:57] <Guest58586> one problem, there is 200gb of stuff i cant loose....
[20:57] <genii> You may need install of tasksel
[20:58] <genii> Guest58586: The method I described
[20:58] <rickest> Guest58586: if you "can't lose" that stuff then it should already be backed up  :-). then follow genii's advice
[20:59] <Guest58586> rickest i am doing this on the backup server....
[21:00] <Guest58586> i didn't have 4hours to wait for the server cd to dl so i just used the regular kubuntu cd
[21:00] <rickest> Guest58586: frankly then, you're doing it wrong
[21:01] <Guest58586> i had to do it in a rush...... boss is well a big rusher, can i use aptitude and select multipal packages at once to remove?
[21:02] <rickest> yes
[21:02] <Guest58586> how?
[21:02] <Guest58586> i just see g to remove...
[21:03] <ellypho> How does one disable all effects on gnome within the terminal?
[21:03] <genii> Haste makes waste. But at your own risk:  sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get install tasksel; sudo tasksel                                 then choose LAMP install
[21:03] <genii> Guest58586: ^
[21:04] <rickest> ellypho: #ubuntu might be more helpful since they're on Gnome
[21:05] <Guest58586> thanks genii, but when you have no time and it had to be done 3hours ago do you really have a choice?
[21:05] <delilaz> hey again, I'm install hplip and it's stating that "adept_notifier is running, please quit package manager and press enter to continue" How do I quit it???
[21:05] <genii> Guest58586: Yes. You tell the boss "Thats how long it takes."
[21:06] <mitsarionas> there's still no way to hold a package on a specific version on adept, is there?
[21:06] <Guest58586> and he says if its not done sooner your outta here......
[21:06] <genii> Guest58586: They are used to it by the way
[21:06] <delilaz> i'm not even running Adept, I'm in a terminal
[21:07] <Guest58586> thanks for all the help :), i gtg lunch time :D
[21:07] <rickest> mitsarionas: not really adept, I guess, but afaik adept will honor:  echo pkgname hold | apt-get --set-selections
[21:08] <genii> Guest58586: Tell him if he wants someone else to do it, you'll gladly call the first available IT guy in the Yellow pages you can convince to come over and repair it. It will take about 4 hours to contact one, convince him to come over, etc etc. And if they want you to fill the new guy in on what is where, you'd better be making twice what they pay that guy since you obviously have seniority.
[21:08] <genii> Bah. Too long typing
[21:10] <mitsarionas> rickest: so it won't display the adept notifier icon when it finds an update to that package?
[21:11] <rickest> mitsarionas: I'm not sure, I don't run the notifier app
[21:13] <delilaz> Anyone know how I can quit package manager??
[21:13] <mitsarionas> :/ thanx anyway... (i don't have a specific package in mind, just asked for knowing's sake) :)
[21:15] <lordnps> engineer: back
[21:15] <lordnps> engineer: are you still there?
[21:15] <engineer> nao
[21:15] <lordnps> engineer: portugues?
[21:17] <lordnps> engineer: compiz install is working now xD Thanks
[21:18] <engineer> anytime
[21:18] <lordnps> engineer: finished installing, chose extra-effects
[21:18] <lordnps> engineer: no working cube yet
[21:19] <lordnps> engineer: btw, are you portuguese?
[21:19] <engineer> stop highlighting me
[21:19] <lordnps> sure
[21:20] <lordnps> later you replyied with 2nao" portuguese for "no"
[21:20] <engineer> and yes, i'm portuguese
[21:20] <lordnps> tambem eu
[21:20] <lordnps> However here, english is probably mandatory
[21:21] <engineer> glad you figured that out
[21:22] <reinhold> hi guys ...
[21:22] <reinhold> can anyone help me please? ...
[21:22] <reinhold> http://phpfi.com/327208
[21:23] <reinhold> i tried to download, configure and make ,,, build myself clamav
[21:23] <reinhold> it didn't work
[21:23] <reinhold> http://phpfi.com/327208
[21:24] <engineer> i don't understand german
[21:24] <reinhold> what should i translate?
[21:24] <engineer> fehler
[21:24] <reinhold> that means error
[21:25] <engineer> isn't clamav in the reps?
[21:25] <rickest> reinhold: not to switch subjects but why not use clamav from the reps?
[21:25] <reinhold> it is ... but it is a very old version that doesn't update the virus definition list
[21:26] <reinhold> and i need the latest one to check some files i want to copy to a windows-computer
[21:26] <reinhold> it shouldn't get any virus
[21:26] <reinhold> or similar threats
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> hey al
[21:28] <Dunas> Hi. How would I access a file that had the same functions as Ubuntu's xorg.conf in Kubuntu?
[21:28] <ShadowKnight> Hey ActionParsnip .
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Dunas: kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xor.conf
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> oops, xorg.conf not xor.conf
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> use autocomplte, you'll be fine
[21:31] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: i is back lol
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: indeed so :)
[21:31] <Dunas> Well, I'm thinking about changing from Ubuntu to Kubuntu, only problem being it's taken some work to get Ubuntu to work with my 1440x900 resolution and when I tried to install KDE and Kubuntu desktop, I think I pretty badly messed something up in Gnome. @_@
[21:32] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: do you know much bout kernels and whats needed to compile them
[21:32] <ShadowKnight> Dunas: so how does that stop you from using KDE?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: compiler and the source
[21:32] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: i have teh source
[21:32] <reinhold> *is back soon*
[21:33] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: thing is 3 ways to compile
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Dunas: backup the xorg.conf file, once you get your drivers installed, copy it back
[21:33] <lucas__> he there, I am experiencieng a strange problem with hardy
[21:33] <Dunas> ShadowKnight: Being perfectly honest I'm terrified of messing this install up.
[21:33] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: ill figure it out now im not worried about it
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Dunas: just install kde-desktop and logoff and change your session at the login screen
[21:33] <lucas__> do we need need to install some extra package to get printer drivers
[21:33] <lucas__> ?
[21:34] <lucas__> aka photosmart 7760
[21:34] <ShadowKnight> brb folks
[21:34] <pteague_work> good grief... i need to get off vmware in this windows crap
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: its pretty easy man, just dont pull something out that you need
[21:35] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: i cant find the qtk++ that i need as well as the gtk++ pkgs if they even exist
[21:35] <mkultras> hey what do you guys use for newsreader, and get binaries with ?
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> lucas__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80060
[21:35] <lucas__> ActionParsnip:  thx
[21:36] <ShadowKnight> back
[21:36] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: want a really easy script you can run to find out all current modules installed with their descriptions
[21:36] <damien__> Does anyone know how to get my wii remote to work as a mouse? I tried this thing on ubuntu wiki but it didn't work
[21:37] <lucas__> ActionParsnip: There is something strange though, In 7.10 the driver is available whereas it is not in hardy
[21:37] <eagles0513875> damien__: thats an interesting idea lol never thought of using it as a mouse
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> damien__: theres videos on youtube, requires destroying a mouse but its not too hard
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> damien__: its not too useful though
[21:37] <eagles0513875> rofl
[21:37] <ShadowKnight> damien__:  I don't think it'll help you in playing emulated wii games either.
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> you dont point at the screen you pitch and roll the wiimote
[21:38] <damien__> ShadowKnight: I don't want to :P
[21:38] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: outa curiosity how many customizations are available in the kernel
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: how do you mean?
[21:38] <damien__> ActionParsnip: Damn, forget that them
[21:38] <damien__> then*
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: you can basically make someting a module, part of the kernel or not available at all
[21:38] <MrKennie> I've seen a remote control somewhere that can do that
[21:39] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: how many questions are available in a kernel
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> damien__: its fun but tbh it sucks
[21:39] <damien__> Heh
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> damien__: gimme a sec
[21:39] <damien__> ok
[21:39] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: usually have 3 options yes no and module i know what module does but what does yes option do
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> damien__: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KtFVlUaMRA
[21:40] <damien__> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[21:40] <szakulec> if you're interested, there's a text list of all your kernel's config options, and how they were set
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: if you want it to be part of the kernel then select yes, if not part or even as a module  choose no
[21:41] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: once you compile cant you disable the module if you dont ned it
[21:41] <eagles0513875> need*
[21:41] <OneTwelve> lawl damien
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: module will compile its as a module so you can attatch it later but it is not part of your kernel
[21:41] <eagles0513875> gotchA
[21:41] <eagles0513875> so its there then u have to enable it when u need it
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: modules, yes they can be removed but things compiled as yes are part of the kernel
[21:41] <eagles0513875> ok
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: you could make a monolithic kernel if you knew exactly what was going to be asked of it and it was never going to change
[21:42] <reinhold> guys ,,, it just won't work!
[21:42] <damien__> ActionParsnip: Does it need to be a laser mouse, or a ball mouse?
[21:43] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: just wanna strip my kernel of unnecessary stuff
[21:43] <eagles0513875> !ask | reinhold
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> damien__: doesnt matter afaics
[21:43] <eagles0513875> !patience | reinhold
[21:43] <damien__> Okay
[21:43] <reinhold> ;)
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> damien__: its pretty crap though dont you think
[21:43] <damien__> ActionParsnip: Well, I have nothing else to do :P
[21:43] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: reason i want to do it is i have a bunch of intel stuff which i dont need cuz im on an amd and dont need nvidia stuff either im on ati this is a laptop
[21:43] <eagles0513875> reinhold: whats ur problem bro
[21:43] <eagles0513875> *you
[21:43] <eagles0513875> your
[21:44] <reinhold> sorry ... it's just that i need the latest version of clamav and i couldn't install it
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: then rip it out and it will make your kernel more efficient and smaller
[21:44] <reinhold> the one in the repositories is to old
[21:44] <eagles0513875> reinhold: you compiling from source
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: if you dont use your pci bus you can remove that
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: and bluetooth if you dont use it
[21:44] <reinhold> i tried eagles0513875 it didn't work
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> and so on
[21:44] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: in regards to the pci buss would a pci xpress card fall under that
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: you'll have to google bro
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> but you have that control
[21:45] <reinhold> i typed the commands step by step
[21:45] <eagles0513875> reinhold: yyou need to run sudo apt-get build-dep clamav
[21:45] <reinhold> like the manual said
[21:45] <eagles0513875> reinhold: that builds the dependencies for that pkg then you run ./configure make make install
[21:45] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: i could put it as a module which wont hurt
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> reinhold I installed from source, makes it the latest as the one in the repos is outdated
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: indeed
[21:46] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: how often do repos get updated
[21:46] <reinhold> so now what?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: just wrench out what you dont need
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> reinhold get the source and compile
[21:46] <eagles0513875> did you build-dep command reinhold
[21:46] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: i will
[21:46] <reinhold> sudo apt-get build-dep clamav AND ./configure make make install ??
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> reinhold: www.google.com
[21:47] <reinhold> i have the source in a tar.gz
[21:47] <reinhold> i unpacked it
[21:47] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: you forgot /linux
[21:47] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: what exactly is the kernel in repos which i should be looking for
[21:47] <reinhold> so just a sec before i'm continueing
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: searching is easier imho
[21:47] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: there are so many kernels
[21:47] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: would it hurt to get latest one from kernel.org
[21:47] <reinhold> how can i find the last bits of my previous attempt in installing clamav?
[21:48] <eagles0513875> reinhold: for get em start from step one
[21:48] <eagles0513875> reinhold: you in the folder of clam av
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: get the kernel source for the one you are using as its in repos so is stable
[21:48] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: this is a test machine i dont mind having to re install
[21:48] <reinhold> the one that has been created while compile and make installing?
[21:49] <reinhold> i deleted it now
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: the source at kernel.org is a nightly snapsot but can be fun to play with
[21:49] <reinhold> and erm ... i will come back some time later ...
[21:49] <reinhold> a thunderstorm is heading this way ...
[21:49] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: can i pm ya
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> sure
[21:49] <reinhold> i can already hear the thunders quite near my position
[21:49] <reinhold> see you soon
[21:52] <ShadowKnight> I've got to go everyone. See you all later.
[21:54] <MrKennie> anyone else ever had problems with switching users in KDE where the current session would get killed?
[21:58] <leftbas> kde 4.1 update complains that my key is invalid...how do i replace it? the instruction page doesn't say
[21:59] <andrey_> привет =)
[21:59] <leftbas> is that russian?
[21:59] <andrey_> неподскажите как Аську настроить в Кубунту 8/04
[22:00] <andrey_> no, Ukrainian ;)
[22:00] <leftbas> i don't know if there's a ukranian kde channel
[22:04] <eagles0513875> leftbas: wouldnt it fall under russian
[22:05] <eagles0513875> !ru | andrey_
[22:05] <eagles0513875> andrey_: that what you want
[22:05] <leftbas> i wouldn't know, i don't speak or write either language
[22:05] <eagles0513875> i have honestly never seen a ukranian language chan i think closest is russian
[22:05] <leftbas> but i couldn't remember how to make that help text appear
[22:07] <leftbas> kde 4.1 update complains that my key is invalid...how do i replace it? the instruction page doesn't say
[22:08] <el-gokulo> KDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:08] <leftbas> thanks
[22:10] <BluesKaj> leftbas, don't worry about invalid keys , they aren't up to date most of the time anyway
[22:10] <andrey_> !en как настроить другую тему в kde4?
[22:11] <Algyz> andrey_:  download themes from kde-look.org
[22:11] <andrey_> дякую
[22:12] <BluesKaj> !ru | andrey_
[22:12] <Algyz> !ua | andrey_
[22:30] <Nyad> Hi. why is it that OpenOffice keeps opening my xls file in read only mode?
[22:35] <Nyad> Hi. why is it that OpenOffice keeps opening my xls file in read only mode?
[22:35] <Nyad> I want to edit it
[22:36] <adflinux> alguien q  hable español
[22:36] <adflinux> ??
[22:36] <adflinux> o un  canal en español
[22:36] <adflinux> porfa!!
[22:36] <el-gokulo> !es adflinux
[22:36] <el-gokulo> #ubuntu-es
[22:37] <adflinux> graxxx
[22:37] <Phantomas> hi can you tell me why when i test my cpu with pi it finishes later than on windows?
[22:38] <Nyad> Phantomas, that's not a good test for cpu speed
[22:38] <Phantomas> does ubuntu use more cpu resources without running apps than windows xp?
[22:38] <Phantomas> Nyad: so what is a good test?
[22:39] <Nyad> dunno, but if you want speed try xubuntu. I do find (k)ubuntu to be quite slow. windows is faster than this distro
[22:39] <Nyad> but the rest are much better
[22:40] <Algyz> Phantomas:  I think Ubuntu is better using resources
[22:40] <Algyz> Phantomas:  try www.geekbench.ca test, you'll see
[22:41] <Phantomas> hmm ok thank you boys/girls
[22:42] <Nyad> Algyz, I don't think so, if I do a copy of say 6GB of data the entire system locks up and a freeze comes easily if I try to do anything other than wander off and make coffee while it copies, at a slower speed than windows does
[22:43] <tct> xD
[22:45] <testi> konqueror crashes when I use the filesize view and move a file to the trash while it is still constructing the tree
[22:45] <Nyad> Hi. why is it that OpenOffice keeps opening my xls file in read only mode?
[22:46] <Nyad> I can't edit it, but I need to
[22:46] <Nyad> nvm
[22:46] <Nyad> I fixed it
[22:50] <ads_> hey wats a command to query the compiz version im running  (please) ?
[22:50] <ads_> whats*
[22:55] <engineer> apt-cache policy compiz-core
[23:05] <freethinker> Hi! can anybody teel me how i can do somthin similar to kdesu dolphin but in gnome?
[23:07] <Odd-rationale> freethinker: gksudo nautilus
[23:07] <freethinker> thanks !!
[23:07] <Roey> Hi, why do I get this weird error when mounting my SD card??  http://forums.opensuse.org/archives/sf-archives/software/345276-unable-mount-removable-media-hal-storage-removable-mount.html  <-- is there a fix for this?
[23:07] <Odd-rationale> freethinker: why are you asking in a kde channel... :P
[23:08] <freethinker> i also like kde
[23:08] <freethinker> and no one was anwsering me on gnome channel
[23:09] <Odd-rationale> freethinker: for ubuntu+gnome question, best to ask in the main #ubuntu channel.. :)
[23:11] <gabspeck> amarok is showing incorrect year tags for some songs tagged with MusicBrainz
[23:11] <gabspeck> has anybody else got this bug?
[23:25] <linux_> hi
[23:25] <linux_> :)
[23:26] <Guest98057> turk varmi lan ?
[23:26] <gabspeck> has anybody else who uses musicbrainz picard run into trouble with year tags in amarok?
[23:30] <batata> opa
[23:30] <batata> como faço para conectar numa rede windows?
[23:30] <batata> um pc com windows outro com kubuntu
[23:31] <engineer> sudo dhclient
[23:31] <engineer> nfs or samba
[23:31] <batata> o kubuntu ligado diretamente no pc com windows
[23:31] <batata> so q eu num posso instalar o samba
[23:31] <batata> pois num tenho internet
[23:31] <batata> no pc com ubuntu
[23:32] <batata> how may you serve?
[23:44] <bastrasdf>  Hey everyone
[23:49] <lordnps> Hi there, I'm having a problem... I've just installed KDE4, and I was messing around with the Themes, and something happened, that I don't know how to reverse: "System Settings" Icons, buttons, spaces everything are huge, and the program doesn't fit in a windows, nor can be resized to fit...
[23:50] <lordnps> It's just weird
[23:50] <lordnps> I've tried using smaller fonts
[23:50] <lordnps> But even though the font size is reduced, the buttons still ocupy imense space
[23:51] <lordnps> rendering me incapable of clicking "Ok" or "Aply"
[23:51] <lordnps> Is there a roll back conf file that I can use somewhere?
[23:56] <Rioting_pacifist> lordnps: possible,  but as i dont know which file it is you could try mv .kde4 .kde4~ (might be called something else) and that will get rid of all your kde4 settings
[23:56] <lordnps> mhm... I'll try that
[23:57] <lordnps> I have 3.5 here for restore
[23:57] <lordnps> Just if something bad happens
[23:58] <Rioting_pacifist> !kde4
[23:58] <Rioting_pacifist> lordnps:  not sure if anybody is about but they know about kde4 when they are^
[23:59] <lordnps> Rioting_pacifist: I'll try the other channel


[07:41] <cpaelzer> it seems on d/t/control you can't restrict the @ wildcard with architectures like  Depends: @ [amd64 s390x], @builddeps@, ethtool
[07:41] <cpaelzer> all I want is to only run it on those two and not on any other arches
[07:41] <cpaelzer> it feels like this must be easy and common, but I haven't seen a great and easy "tag for architectures that it should run" yet
[07:42] <cpaelzer> I might have been missing it all the years, hints welcome :-)
[08:02] <infinity> cpaelzer__: Why shouldn't it run for all arches?  If it's known to fail on others, then it'll fail, so what?
[08:03] <cpaelzer> infinity: yes it is known to fail on other arches
[08:04] <cpaelzer> infinity: the package has many tests and just one would have that "fails on some arches"
[08:04] <infinity> cpaelzer: Right, we don't generally want to hide problems by skipping testsuites where they fail.
[08:04] <cpaelzer> I'd want to have the coverage of the other tests that work well on all arches
[08:04] <cpaelzer> and these extra tests that have limited arches run only on those known to work
[08:04] <infinity> cpaelzer: Ahh, if the goal is to run all the "good" tests, just wrap the bad one in a dpkg-architecture check?
[08:04] <cpaelzer> yes
[08:05] <cpaelzer> I have doen so years ago for DPDK, but I wondered if there is anything new
[08:05] <cpaelzer> better than if dpkd --print-architecture ...
[08:05] <infinity> From my POV, I wouldn't want arch-restriction semantics in debian/tests/control, cause it would encourage its use for evil. :P
[08:06] <infinity> But that's just my opinion.
[08:06] <cpaelzer> hehe, maybe that is the reason it isn't there
[08:06] <cpaelzer> will do a less comfortable semi-manual arch check for this special case then ...
[08:08] <cpaelzer> thanks for the talk infinity, now I feel less like "there must be a tag for arch-restrictions, but I'm the only one not knowing it"
[08:13] <infinity> cpaelzer: Nah, it really doesn't exist.  And while I can see an argument that it could be useful, I think what would be more useful is work on debci/autopkgtest to record granular test results and britney integration to use those.
[08:14] <infinity> cpaelzer: Cause it's valuable information to know that 5/6 pass, and 1/6 is an xfail, cause it's never passed.  Ignoring that 1/6 by arch-restricting is just a bandaid.
[08:22] <cpaelzer> ack to that as a vision for autopkgtest.u.c
[08:31] <seb128> vorlon, hey, do you still plan to do the regular i386 removals to unblock things? there is a stack of 3 days old blocked item on the proposed-migration summary
[08:33] <ricotz> seb128, hi :), is there a list of packages which will keep their i386 builds?
[08:35] <seb128> ricotz, hey, yes, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/focal/i386-whitelist
[08:35] <ricotz> thanks!
[08:35] <seb128> ricotz, it's built according to the feedback given in https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/community-process-for-32-bit-compatibility/12598
[08:35] <seb128> ricotz, np!
[08:59] <ricotz> seb128, looks like this whilelist doesn't apply to PPAs?
[09:02] <cjwatson> The whitelist applies to PPAs
[09:02] <infinity> cjwatson: It does?  Without a toggle?
[09:02] <ricotz> cjwatson, ok, I see "vala" is in the list, but https://launchpad.net/~vala-team/+archive/ubuntu/daily/+packages
[09:02] <cjwatson> There is currently no toggle available.  There probably should be
[09:02] <infinity> cjwatson: Cause a common use-case of PPAs is to build stuff that doesn't exist in PRIMARY, which the whitelist wouldn't allow.
[09:03] <cjwatson> Somebody who needs such a toggle should file a bug please
[09:03] <infinity> ricotz: vala != vala-git.
[09:03] <ricotz> sorry, the is vala-git for some convenient reasons
[09:03] <cjwatson> ricotz: But there is no ... that
[09:03] <infinity> ricotz: The whitelist is source package.
[09:04] <infinity> cjwatson: Filing.
[09:04] <cjwatson> Ta
[09:05] <infinity> cjwatson: UI might be interesting.  From a "what other options does it look like" perspective, it clearly fits well next to the "use same components as PRIMARY" toggle, but that page is called "Edit Dependencies" not "influence build record creation".
[09:05] <infinity> Maybe under the arch selection makes as much sense, though.,
[09:09] <infinity> cjwatson: LP: #1855069
[09:53] <rbalint> seb128, already did https://github.com/df7cb/newpid/pull/2
[09:58] <seb128> rbalint, hey, that's upstream and not Debian right? well, I guess if upstream is active that's going to flow back to Debian and then us...
[09:59] <rbalint> seb128, this is the repo listed in Vcs-Git
[09:59] <seb128> rbalint, ah ok, perfect then, thanks!
[10:19] <seb128> tjaalton, hey, do you think you could look at the silx autopkgtest (https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal/focal/amd64/s/silx/20191130_223733_29186@/log.gz), I tried to unblock xorg-server proposed-migration and I think that's the remaining problem but I don't understand the openCL error there
[10:29] <tjaalton> seb128: me neither
[10:29] <seb128> tjaalton, do you know who would know? we need that sorted out one way or another
[10:30] <tjaalton> no..
[10:30] <tjaalton> same pocl used on both focal and debian
[10:30] <tjaalton> failed on debian too but because of something else
[12:50] <ahasenack> hello, could an archive admin please take a look at the haproxy i386 failure in https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#haproxy ?
[12:51] <ahasenack> is this a case where the i386 package has to be removed, as per vorlon's email to ubuntu-devel a few days ago?
[12:53] <ahasenack> oh, that email said to use #ubuntu-release
[14:34] <coreycb> doko: 20.04 won't have python 3.6 will it? I don't think so but figured I'd check.
[14:42] <cjwatson> Even 19.10 didn't have Python 3.6.
[14:42] <cjwatson> Indeed it was removed in 19.04.
[14:53] <doko> coreycb: ^^^
[14:53] <coreycb> doko: cjwatson: yeah sorry not thinking
[14:55] <doko> coreycb: and we are trying to drop 3.7 in 20.04
[14:56] <doko> coreycb, jamespage: I'm now proposing to update 2.7 to 2.7.17 in bionic. I have no regressions found in main (builds). is there anything you want to check for openstack?
[14:56] <coreycb> doko: so 20.04 will be 3.8 only?
[14:56] <doko> and likely 2.7
[14:56] <coreycb> doko: ok
[14:59] <coreycb> doko: thanks. we could run regression with 2.7.17 in -proposed if needed.
[15:01] <doko> coreycb: ok, packages are currently in ubuntu-toolchain-r/ppa PPA. then I'll go ahead with the uploads to proposed, and wait for checks. it's not urgent
[15:01] <coreycb> doko: thanks i'll keep an eye out for it in proposed
[15:31] <seb128> tsimonq2, hey, just as a FYI, I removed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-multiload/0.4+git20170224-0ubuntu1 since it was buggy/not building/removing translations
[15:33] <vorlon> seb128: the three-day-old blocked packages are the ones that have non-trivial revdeps that I haven't unwound.  do you have specific ones you want me to look at?
[15:38] <seb128> vorlon, liborcus would be nice, it's one of the blocker for glibc and others
[15:38] <vorlon> for glibc?
[15:39] <vorlon> I'll look at liborcus
[15:39] <seb128> vorlon, according to https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages yes
[15:39] <seb128>  liborcus blocking glibc (2.30-0ubuntu2 to 2.30-0ubuntu3) for 4 days
[15:39] <seb128> (the test issue is fixed in -3 which isn't mgirating because of i386)
[15:39] <vorlon> seb128: blocking via autopkgtest failure; if the test is broken in -3 we should be badtesting that?
[15:40] <vorlon> in -2, sorry
[15:40] <seb128> well it's fixed in -3 so I guess we could also retry with that added to the trigger= list
[15:40] <seb128> but ideally the fixed version would just migrate
[15:41] <vorlon> that ideal is the slow path in general for unblocking packages
[15:45] <seb128> vorlon, right, I'll just retry with the trigger for now, going through the rdepends list indeed doesn't seem trivial :-/
[15:46] <seb128> vorlon, oh, also, can you make dbus migrate? the only remaining blocker is http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/s/systemd/focal/i386
[15:46] <seb128>  dbus : Depends: libdbus-1-3 (= 1.12.16-2ubuntu1) but 1.12.14-1ubuntu2 is to be installed
[15:47] <seb128> that doesn't seem like it has to do with the dbus update right?
[15:52] <vorlon> seb128: that should be fixable with an --all-proposed retry; we saw that last week and it has to do with our pins not doing :amd64 on the i386 runners
[15:52] <seb128> vorlon, k, let me try that, thx


[07:28] <pragomer> Can I config icon-spacing in xfce4-panel? (program-starter-icons!)
[08:53] <Bwithmore14> hello guys how to setup static ip address if im using wireless connection
[08:53] <knome> Bwithmore14, via the network manager in your panel by default
[08:53] <Bwithmore14> can you give me examples  knome?
[08:54] <knome> ermm.. what kind of examples exactly?
[08:54] <Bwithmore14> how to setup it in network manager ?
[08:54] <knome> click the network manager icon and select edit connections
[08:54] <Bwithmore14> then
[08:54] <knome> select the wifi network you want to edit and click edit
[08:55] <knome> then go to the IPV4 settings tab
[08:55] <Bwithmore14> then man
[08:55] <knome> then change the method and your preferred settings
[13:13] <NewUser> hi all! i use xubuntu some days now from a persistance usb flash drive created in windows, i want to install it in the hard drive, the chanches i did in the live persistencs will be also installed? it is better to use a live usb without persistence?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> NewUser, installing it will give you a speedier xubuntu
[13:15] <NewUser> hi cfhowlett, i am going to install it, i just want to know if i can use the live usb with persistence or i have to prepare another without percistence!
[13:16] <cfhowlett> NewUser, note what changes you've made in persistence so you can replicate on your new installation.
[13:17] <NewUser> ok! thanx!
[13:18] <cfhowlett> happy2help NewUser
[13:18] <NewUser> :-) bye
[15:18] <yoLo__> where an i download xubuntu minimal cd ?
[15:18] <yoLo__> can*
[15:19] <GridCube> !mini
[15:19] <GridCube> yoLo__: ^ when installin you choose the xubuntu desktop
[15:19] <GridCube> or the xubuntu-core
[15:20] <yoLo__> i see
[15:22] <nomic> yolo .. there is a net install . which will allow you to download the lot from the web (with a boot process much smaller)
[15:23] <nomic> yoLo__,   "net install"  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[15:23] <nomic> This HOWTO describes one way to do a Netboot install of Ubuntu by booting from files on a hard disk. This installation method does not require burning a CD (or using any other external media, like a USB key), and it does not require you to configure a server on your LAN for PXE booting.
[15:23] <nomic> that is the most minimal
[15:26] <yoLo__> it's either i'm just terrible at using linux or debian 8 has changed a lot
[15:26] <yoLo__> i have tried few instruction and i still can't get rfcomm0
[15:26] <yoLo__> at my dev directory
[15:27] <yoLo__> i sudo apt-get upgrade not knowing this will upgrade my wheezy to jessie
[15:28] <yoLo__> now everything is screwed
[15:34] <GridCube> no idea what you talking about
[15:35] <yoLo__> anyways thankis
[15:36] <yoLo__> thanks*
[16:13] <yoLo_> choosing xubuntu minimal will install without GUI right ?
[16:13] <yoLo_> GridCube:
[16:14] <holstein> i would expect the xubuntu GUI
[16:14] <holstein> xubuntu ships XFCE, even minimally configured, that is a GUI
[16:14] <holstein> !mini
[16:14] <holstein> ^ that, or a server iso.. that would give you no GUI..
[16:16] <yoLo_> i selected xubuntu desktop
[16:16] <holstein> right.. and thats a GUI.. so, if you dont want a GUI, you dont want xubuntu, or xfce.. you want minimal, that you build without a GUI,or a server iso, that doesnt ship a GUI
[16:16] <holstein> !text
[16:17] <holstein> you can start the machine without the GUI running.. ^
[16:17] <yoLo_> everything seems to have been installed but nothing boots unfortunately
[16:18] <holstein> well, if you have xubuntu installed, it will boot..
[16:18] <yoLo_> turn my laptop on, GRUB is suppose to appear
[16:18] <yoLo_> but nothing
[16:18] <holstein> if you build something from minimal, you will be responsible for setting up more of the OS
[16:18] <pencilandpaper> what iso did you download yoLo_ ?
[16:18] <pencilandpaper> to install from.
[16:19] <yoLo_> vivid minimal cd
[16:19] <yoLo_> which is about 40MB
[16:19] <holstein> could be, you have a hardware issue.. i might run a few tests, if only quickly, to confirm a few things.. 1. a memory test from a standard xubuntu live iso, and 2. i could run a smart test on the hard drive from there, and 3. i would see that the live environment runs on my hardware
[16:19] <pencilandpaper> ok, well then that is why yoLo_ , you still have to install what is needed to get it to boot.
[16:19] <holstein> which, is nothing, since you dont want a GUI
[16:20] <yoLo_> i actually do want a GUI
[16:20] <holstein> the xubuntu iso provides that, by default.. though, you can add whatever yo ulike after installing from minimal
[16:20] <pencilandpaper> yoLo_: are you staring at the pc with the minimal iso installed right now?
[16:21] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper i'm staring at a pc without an OS
[16:21] <yoLo_> just a blink cursor
[16:21] <yoLo_> which isn't suppose to be the case
[16:21] <holstein> yoLo_: a login promt?
[16:22] <pencilandpaper> ok yoLo_ , in that blink cursor enter su root
[16:22] <pencilandpaper> tell me what happens please.
[16:22] <yoLo_> but when i hit ctrl alt + del i get ubuntu 15.04 writting at the center of the screen then pc shutdowns and reboots
[16:22] <yoLo_> i can't type anything
[16:22] <yoLo_> nothing i type appears in the screen
[16:22] <holstein> how about from tty?
[16:22] <holstein> !tty
[16:23] <pencilandpaper> hit this yoLo_ , ctrl+alt+F1 and tell me what happens please.
[16:23] <yoLo_> oh!
[16:23] <yoLo_> that worked
[16:23] <yoLo_> i get a own login:
[16:23] <yoLo_> but command line
[16:24] <pencilandpaper> nice, now in that tty..login yoLo_ , and then enter su root..and tell me what happens please.
[16:24] <holstein> from there, i would look into GPU hardware support
[16:24] <holstein> could be as simple as installing a proprietary driver for the GPU. anyways, you know the system is installed, and you can do maintenance from there
[16:25] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: su asks for password
[16:25] <pencilandpaper> yes yoLo_ , enter your login password and tell me when you are root.
[16:25] <yoLo_> but i wasn't asked for password during installation
[16:25] <holstein> should have setup a user password then..
[16:25] <yoLo_> instead i was asked for an adduser password which i provided
[16:25] <pencilandpaper> you should have been..if you werent wow.
[16:25] <pencilandpaper> oops wait yoLo_ , who cares..in that terminal enter this: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:26] <pencilandpaper> you are going to use your login password yoLo_ for all of it.
[16:26] <holstein> or, first.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".. then, if all goes well, and no errors. "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[16:27] <yoLo_> ok xubuntu-desktop is installing
[16:27] <yoLo_> it's about 1.2gigs
[16:28] <yoLo_> i still don't get why i needed to hit ctrl alt pluc f5 f6
[16:28] <yoLo_> to get into tty
[16:28] <pencilandpaper> ok great yoLo_ , once that is installed you are in pretty good shape..and should be able to simply boot in to a desktop after that.
[16:28] <pencilandpaper> a GUI.
[16:28] <yoLo_> need i type that in each time i turn on my pc ?
[16:28] <holstein> because, it seems you dont actually have xfce installed
[16:28] <pencilandpaper> thats just how it is yoLo_ .
[16:29] <yoLo_> hmm..
[16:29] <yoLo_> i see
[16:29] <pencilandpaper> no, after installing xubuntu-desktop you should be good to go..having xfce installed.
[16:29] <yoLo_> will xfce be installed afterwords ?
[16:29] <pencilandpaper> yes.
[16:30] <yoLo_> that's just one thing that excites me about linux everything is just soo basic
[16:32] <yoLo_> i got an error :| !!
[16:33] <yoLo_> Errors were encountered while processing systemd
[16:33] <holstein> whats the goal? installing xubuntu? if so, i say, try the pre-built xubuntu iso.. its made for getting you what you are doing
[16:33] <yoLo_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code(1)
[16:34] <holstein> i see those when having multiple package managers open.. etc
[16:34] <pencilandpaper> yoLo_: do me a favor and enter: sudo apt-get install -f
[16:34] <pencilandpaper> tell me what that says after you enter that please.
[16:38] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: E: dpkg interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[16:38] <yoLo_> should i do it ?
[16:39] <holstein> you need to let those tasks complete.. and, i would check "sudo apt-get update" and see that the sources are working..
[16:39] <holstein> it wont hurt to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a", though, i bet this is a symptom of another issue..
[16:40] <yoLo_> ok so i should try sudo apt-get update
[16:41] <holstein> i think ,as far as my suggestions for "should", i think you should just use the prebuilt xubuntu iso.. but, right now, you have errors with the packaging system
[16:41] <holstein> running "sudo apt-get update" should either, update your cache, or print errors about what sources, if any, are not working..
[16:42] <holstein> you can also try the message the system suggested, "sudo dpkg --configure -a", but, this wouldnt address the sources not connecting, if that is the issue
[16:44] <yoLo_> damn.. now i'm getting a tons of errors while this update is still in progress.. it's going fast unable to read
[16:44] <holstein> you shouldnt do things while that update is in process.. you'll have to patiently wait on it to complete
[16:44] <yoLo_> so far there's been about 14 Errros
[16:44] <yoLo_> i'm not
[16:44] <yoLo_> doing anything
[16:45] <holstein> anyways.. messages are not always errors. or issues..
[16:48] <yoLo_> well not it's just hanging... Failed to execute operation: Connection timed out
[16:49] <holstein> thats why i think it would be beneficial to check the sources.. and make sure "sudo apt-get update" completes as expected
[16:49] <yoLo_> Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1
[16:50] <yoLo_> sudo apt-get update is still in progress i believe so.. but it looks like it's been stalled by that Errors
[16:50] <holstein> yoLo_: you need to wait..
[16:50] <yoLo_> i am :|
[16:51] <holstein> yoLo_: *after* the update you have initiated is complete, then, you run sudo apt-get update, and troubleshoot the errors, if any
[16:53] <pencilandpaper> sorry i got a phonecall. :(
[16:55] <yoLo_> holstein: unfortunately i don't think the update will be going on anytime soon..
[16:55] <yoLo_> it has been completely stalled :|
[16:55] <holstein> yoLo_: it can appear to be..
[16:55] <yoLo_> i'm still waiting.. cursor still blinking
[16:58] <yoLo_> holstein: i think it's gotten into a loop at which it will never be able to recover..
[16:59] <pencilandpaper> what is it saying in terminal right now yoLo_ ?
[17:04] <yoLo_> Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: timeout was reached (g-io-error-quark, 24)
[17:04] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper:
[17:04] <yoLo_> Failed to execute operation: Connection time out
[17:05] <yoLo_> it's been 16 minutesright now
[17:05] <yoLo_> still hanging
[17:05] <pencilandpaper> is there a cursor after that..did it go back to your username?
[17:05] <pencilandpaper> a new prompt?
[17:06] <pencilandpaper> so that you can type?
[17:07] <yoLo_> nope
[17:07] <yoLo_> there is a cursor
[17:07] <yoLo_> but hasn;t returned user
[17:07] <pencilandpaper> ok thanks yoLo_ .
[17:08] <pencilandpaper> bummer, go and restart and see what you see when you get back..if you see nothing again hit ctrl+alt+F1 to get back to a terminal ok?
[17:08] <pencilandpaper> then let us know when you are there again please.
[17:11] <yoLo_> ok
[17:14] <yoLo_> well pencilandpaper now i can't even get into tty
[17:16] <pencilandpaper> really? :(
[17:18] <yoLo_> not at all..
[17:20] <yoLo_> has this anything to do with the fact that my hard drive is an ssd ?
[17:22] <xubuntu58w> hi
[17:22] <pencilandpaper> yoLo_: do you need 32bit or 64bit?
[17:22] <pencilandpaper> i think that its using the minimal cd yoLo_ , and it just having issues getting things done for you.
[17:23] <pencilandpaper> hi xubuntu58w .
[17:23] <xubuntu58w> it is just a matter of systemd question
[17:23] <yoLo_> 64-bit PC (amd64, x86_64)
[17:24] <pencilandpaper> are you in the united states yoLo_ ?
[17:25] <xubuntu58w> I am confusing with systemd integration onto Xubuntu.?
[17:25] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: i'm in canada
[17:25] <pencilandpaper> ok thanks.
[17:25] <yoLo_> for the mirror i chose united states
[17:25] <yoLo_> i'm installing the whole thing over again
[17:26] <pencilandpaper> http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/xubuntu-releases/15.04/release/xubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso <--- yoLo_ .
[17:27] <pencilandpaper> that way you can atleast once installed you can boot right to desktop with a full install. if you have a data plan that only allows for a certain amount each day, then grab a torrent file.
[17:27] <pencilandpaper> once you max out, close your torrent client, then start it again the next day.
[17:28] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: thanks if this installation doesn't go well i'll burn your image to a disk and install it
[17:28] <max12345> I have an old version of qt i'm having trouble with. I can't uninstall it.
[17:28] <pencilandpaper> ok yoLo_ ..and good luck.
[17:29] <pencilandpaper> max12345: did you install the new version already?
[17:29] <max12345> pencilandpaper, yep
[17:29] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: this mirror site you've provided isn't a torrent version
[17:29] <yoLo_> it's actually the data itself
[17:29] <pencilandpaper> ok, try sudo apt-get update and see what if those old qt libs are listed max12345 .
[17:29] <pencilandpaper> if they are listed and it recommends using sudo apt-get autoremove..do so to remove them.
[17:30] <pencilandpaper> correct yoLo_ .
[17:30] <pencilandpaper> so the torrent file you will have to go and get at the site. i didnt think of that until later.
[17:31] <xubuntu58w> Why Xubutnu 15.04 still uses init based script for its service initialization even systemd is used.?
[17:32] <pencilandpaper> i am not so sure that its full systemd yet xubuntu58w , i could be wrong about that.
[17:32] <pencilandpaper> i dont follow systemd that much and have uninstalled it on my system since i dont agree with it in general.
[17:33] <max12345> nope , pencilandpaper not listed
[17:34] <xubuntu58w> Ohh, that mean Xubuntu decided to stick with Upstart further, even Kubuntu & Ubuntu fully integrate with systemd.?
[17:36] <yoLo_> is it important to install GRUB though i have only one OS ?
[17:42] <yoLo_> any good burner for windows i could use to burn this iso ?
[17:42] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: apt-get update was successful this time
[17:43] <yoLo_> now i installing the xubuntu-desktop
[17:43] <yoLo_> i'll wait to see how that goes
[17:43] <genii> yoLo_: ImgBurn
[17:44] <pencilandpaper> ok nice yoLo_ . :)
[17:44] <pencilandpaper> yes yoLo_ , well i am hoping that grub will be installed along with xubuntu-desktop yoLo_ .
[17:46] <yoLo_> after minimal installation completed i still had to go through tty though
[17:46] <yoLo_> i;m assuming that the united stated mirror is corrupted
[17:47] <holstein> why?
[17:48] <holstein> *im* on the us mirror.. anyways, it could be you cant access it for some reason.. why not use the full xubuntu iso?
[17:50] <yoLo_> holstein: everything seems to be working perfectly now
[17:50] <yoLo_> i'm waiting for the xubuntu-desktop to install
[17:50] <yoLo_> no error so far
[17:51] <yoLo_> :(
[17:51] <yoLo_> nevermind what i just said
[17:52] <pencilandpaper> nice yoLo_ .
[17:55] <yoLo_> this is such a pain
[17:55] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: now i will try your image
[17:56] <yoLo_> i do not require the internet to install yours i guess
[17:58] <pencilandpaper> yoLo_: wait, what you were doing didnt work?
[17:58] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: installing the xubuntu-desktop
[17:59] <pencilandpaper> well then you should let that finish, because when that is done it will be the same thing.
[17:59] <yoLo_> 1.04minutes until completion i got the systmd Error
[18:01] <pencilandpaper> o ok i see yoLo_ ..well then yeah go to with the image that i sent bro.
[18:01] <pencilandpaper> that will install right to what you want. a full OS.
[18:01] <yoLo_> recommended that i connect to the internet ?
[18:01] <yoLo_> during installation ?
[18:02] <holstein> i dont
[18:02] <yoLo_> ok
[18:02] <holstein> i just install, *then*, i do the updates afterwards..
[18:02] <yoLo_> ok
[18:04] <pencilandpaper> yeah, thats up to you yoLo_ .
[18:11] <yoLo_> thanks for the help pencilandpaper , holstein
[18:13] <yoLo_> why is xubuntu soo..... blue ?
[18:13] <holstein> you can easily theme it as you please..
[18:18] <pencilandpaper> yw yoLo_ .
[18:18] <pencilandpaper> xubuntu has been blue as long as i have ever used it. lol
[18:20] <yoLo_> why am i being offered to upgrade to 15.04 when i'm currently on 15.04
[18:20] <yoLo_> but the system updater ?
[18:21] <yoLo_> by the*
[18:21] <holstein> yoLo_: what would i do? simply close that, open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update".. see that there are no errors, then, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[18:24] <pencilandpaper> ^
[18:25] <yoLo_> that's what i did
[18:25] <yoLo_> no errors
[18:25] <pencilandpaper> nice, so its up to date then yoLo_ ?
[18:27] <yoLo_> yes
[18:27] <pencilandpaper> cool, well now you are in good shape. :)
[18:27] <pencilandpaper> you know how to install software that you want right?
[18:28] <yoLo_> yea prett much
[18:28] <yoLo_> pretty*
[18:29] <pencilandpaper> ok, you can do that right from the software-center yoLo_ .
[20:16] <fractal618> xubuntu is the best!
[23:29] <mr0everywhere> i have a shared connection coming from windows 8 trying to share it with my ubuntu device, the devices are showing no activity between them. anybody think they can help me troubleshoot this
[23:53] <mr0everywhere> anybody awake in here?
[23:55] <Unit193> No need to cross post...


[01:26] <Ahmuck> what is the default mail/addressbook for lubuntu?
[01:39] <phillw> Ahmuck: do you mean to register to the user email group?
[03:16] <Ahmuck> no, the default mail client for ubuntu is
[03:16] <holstein> for lubuntu? i can look if you want/need
[03:18] <vn151502510> is that Sylpheed?
[03:20] <holstein> sylpheed is what i have in stock 14.04 here
[03:30] <Ahmuck> thx
[15:04] <baitgb> hi, if i'm on lubutnu and already installed chrome with a packge downloaded from google -  how do i keep the software (chrome) updated?
[15:06] <holstein> baitgb: the same as the others.. just update. chrome adds a source
[15:06] <holstein> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is what i use
[15:07] <baitgb> listen, i can see msgs right in xchat. i'm using the hebrew version of lubutnu but the msgs here are cutted
[15:07] <baitgb> can't
[15:08] <baitgb> nevermind probably the dispaly of lubuntu on hebrew is problematic with xchat
[15:08] <baitgb> i suggest that you check it out so hebrew users can see weel in xchat
[15:09] <holstein> lol
[15:13] <Dodo> Hello! I have a problem when installing lubuntu. When choosing my area my keyboard is active which prevents installation
[15:14] <holstein> Dodo: i would just let something work, then change afterwards
[15:14] <holstein> do US, since we know that works, and that you can deal with US.. then, change it post install
[16:47] <beginner> hello. When i install lubuntu 14.04 beta 2 and the final gets released, did i have to reinstall everything again?
[16:47] <holstein> beginner: no
[16:47] <beginner> holstein: just using the updater brings me to the final?
[16:48] <holstein> beginner: correct
[16:48] <beginner> holstein: does the 14.04 beta 2 32bit-iso include fake-PAE?
[16:49] <holstein> beginner: i havent personally looked into that
[16:49] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
[16:51] <beginner> this is what i mean. Does it include an "press button fX and choose additional option forcepae" or did i have to manualy modify the bootline?
[16:52] <holstein> beginner: i have not personally needed to find out, but, if i did, i would refer to the documenation above that would let me add it to 14.04, if needed (i assume) and use that if 14.04 didnt "just work" for me out of the box
[16:53] <beginner> okay, thanks so far. all questions are answered
[16:53] <holstein> enjoy!
[21:57] <FuuqUmiist> how do you turn on the guest account in lubuntu? thanks
[21:58] <Unit193> echo allow-guest=false | sudo tee -a /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[22:01] <FuuqUmiist> i using GDM because lightdm was having problems in the past
[22:02] <Unit193> Then nope, don't know GDM.
[22:03] <Unit193> (Or at least remember it well enough.  LXDM was the LXDE one.)
[22:04] <FuuqUmiist> yeah, i remember trying that one too


[01:35] <MSpin> Why does d-i hate me so?:)
[11:09] <cjwatson> MSpin: might want a little more detail than that ...
[12:35] <GeSTaM> Âñåì ïðèâåò =) êòî ìîæåò ïîìî÷ü ïîëíîìó íóáó ubuntu íàñòðîèòü vpn ñîåäèíåíèå? =)
[12:35] <_ruben> might wanna try that in english instead
[12:38] <GeSTaM> Hi all! Who can help  ubuntu to adjust vpn connection?
[12:50] <evand> well then
[12:54] <_ruben> heh
[14:04] <xivulon> evand there are a few issues with non-ascii chars still, I think we will need to release a new stand-alone in the coming days
[14:07] <cjwatson> evand: can you add the intro message back to ubiquity?
[14:07] <evand> sure
[14:08] <CIA-4> ubiquity: evand * r3250 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py):
[14:08] <CIA-4> ubiquity: Add translation support for the "Free Space" string in the GTK frontend
[14:08] <CIA-4> ubiquity: partition bars (LP: #365490).
[14:08] <xivulon> in the meantime, could you do a build with log.debug(lines) thrown in src/backends/common/utils.py > replace_line_in_file before #257 and post it to 365642
[14:08] <xivulon> evand ^
[14:10] <xivulon> and maybe one at the beginning of the function to check the args
[14:12] <xivulon> by the way, you think you can add the icon to the certification? (images)
[15:51] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3251 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog gui/glade/stepUserInfo.glade): Widen password entry boxes a bit (LP: #364499).
[16:15] <MSpin> cjwatson: I was mostly venting.   I think I got a nearly working partman config now.
[16:29] <CIA-4> ubiquity: evand * r3252 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog rules): Re-enable the alpha intro message.
[17:09] <MSpin> ok, now I need some assistance with partman.  I'm trying to get a 10G root, 2gig swap and the rest into a LVM VG
[17:09] <MSpin> This: http://pastebin.com/d16382e87 errors saying it can't create a partition outside the disk
[17:15] <cjwatson> could you put 'set -x' on the second line of /lib/partman/lib/recipes.sh (you'll need to arrange for something like the hostname question not to be preseeded, so that you have a chance to step in and edit that file with nano) and then get me /var/log/syslog?
[17:15] <cjwatson> actually, make that /lib/partman/lib/base.sh - might as well be complete
[17:15] <cjwatson> and also get me /var/log/partman
[17:16] <MSpin> k, one sec
[17:32] <MSpin> um, any good options for getting the files off ?
[17:33] <MSpin> no scp, and nc isn't connecting for some reason
[17:41] <cjwatson> anna-install openssh-client-udeb; then you have scp
[17:52] <MSpin> thanks!
[17:52] <MSpin> syslog: http://filebin.ca/ufkdhn
[17:52] <MSpin> partman: http://filebin.ca/ktwyy
[17:55] <cjwatson> ok, probably can't look straight away, approaching the end of my day
[17:55] <cjwatson> feel free to file a bug (on partman-auto) as a reminder
[17:58] <MSpin> ok
[17:58] <MSpin> thanks!
[17:59] <MSpin> if I add a stanza for a /boot partition, it works fine
[19:54] <tjaalton> MSpin: I think you need to use "-1" to let it use the "rest of the disk" for the lvm partition
[19:54] <tjaalton> it's new in jaunty
[19:55] <MSpin> tjaalton: it works if I just add a small /boot partition
[19:56] <tjaalton> ah, ok
[19:57] <MSpin> but, then again, partman hates me:)
[19:57] <MSpin> err partman-auto


[08:34] <Jaybobc> hello everyone! I have a small problem and I'm hoping someone can shed a little light on it for me.
[08:35] <Jaybobc> I've installed MAAS and when I try to enlist a node, it comes up and gets an IP/gateway from MAAS, but then it says it can't find the configuration file
[08:35] <Jaybobc> any ideas why that is?
[08:37] <Jaybobc> I've downloaded multiple images and tried several of them with no luck
[08:39] <Jaybobc> it looks like the pxelinux.0 file is in /var/lib/maas/boot-resources/current/, but I'm new to MAAS and not sure where to go to make sure MAAS gets pointed to the right location.
[13:35] <mup> Bug #1685615 opened: Bonded interfaces on a controller or device are shown as "Unconfigured" <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1685615>
[14:08] <mup> Bug #1685619 opened: Subnet should be inferred from static IP addresses <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1685619>
[14:23] <mup> Bug #1685624 opened: Power control software install message should give controller name <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1685624>
[14:32] <mup> Bug #1685624 changed: Power control software install message should give controller name <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1685624>
[14:38] <mup> Bug #1685624 opened: Power control software install message should give controller name <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1685624>
[15:17] <mup> Bug #1685629 opened: MAAS should validate any proxy <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1685629>
[16:28] <Jaybobc> I've installed MAAS and when I try to enlist a node, it comes up and gets an IP/gateway from MAAS, but then it says it can't find the configuration file.any ideas why that is? I've downloaded multiple images and tried several of them with no luck.it looks like the pxelinux.0 file is in /var/lib/maas/boot-resources/current/, but I'm new to MAAS and not sure where to go to make sure MAAS gets pointed to the right location.
[20:24] <pmatulis> Jay...
[21:06] <jac_cplane> I'm deploying openstack/maas juju.  (trusty lts)  have vlan interfaces for compute nodes.   rebooting compute nodes, one of the vlan interfaces does not come up - now networking is hung.   service networking restart hangs.    ifup eth1.10 hangs., etc.   any thoughts