[02:23] <[reed]> asac / fta / micahg: ping
[02:23] <micahg> [reed]: pong
[02:23] <[reed]> what are some of the most annoying Linux-specific Firefox bugs?
[02:23] <[reed]> that you really wish were fixed
[02:24] <micahg> idk, but the lcd bug is driving people crazy here...font hinting is another, but we're not sure that's mozilla's fault yet
[02:24] <micahg> bug 512615
[02:25] <[reed]> what lcd bug?
[02:26] <micahg> mozilla 404637
[02:26] <[reed]> oh
[02:26] <[reed]> same issue?
[02:26] <micahg> yes
[02:26] <[reed]> both system cairo stuff...
[02:27] <micahg> mozilla 427028
[02:27] <[reed]> so
[02:27] <[reed]> SuSe should got a patch in for something similar
[02:27] <[reed]> hmm
[02:28] <micahg> mozilla 42
[02:28] <micahg> oops
[02:28] <micahg> mozilla 534663 is another one
[02:28] <micahg> we have an idea for a fix though
[02:29] <micahg> bug 497561
[02:29] <micahg> mozilla 497561
[02:29] <[reed]> mozilla 508986
[02:29] <micahg> [reed]: so 3.0.18 is it for 1.9.0 branch, right?
[02:30] <[reed]> micahg: yes, Firefox 3.0.x == Gecko 1.9.0.x; Firefox 3.5.x == Gecko 1.9.1.x; Firefox 3.6.x == Gecko 1.9.2.x
[02:31] <micahg> [reed]: any idea how long for 1.9.1?
[02:31] <[reed]> how long what?
[02:31] <micahg> until EOL
[02:31] <[reed]> 6 months after Firefox 3.6
[02:32] <micahg> does TB3 or SM2 running of that branch make any difference?
[02:32] <micahg> *off
[02:33] <[reed]> they are looking into upgrading
[02:33] <[reed]> to 1.9.2
[02:33] <[reed]> TB3.1 will be 1.9.2-based
[02:34] <micahg> k, well, hopefully we'll be able to get the rolling upgrades going for older releases before a major security vuln is released...
[02:36] <micahg> [reed]: you need a list of any more bugs?
[02:37] <[reed]> sure
[02:38] <[reed]> mozilla 497561 is a gtk+ bug.
[02:39] <[reed]> I'm looking for Linux-specific Gecko issues that can be fixed on Gecko's end
[02:39] <micahg> [reed]: the XID handling is totally in the GTK code?
[02:40] <[reed]> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590690
[02:40] <micahg> oh, right...
[02:40]  * micahg is overall happy with FF :)
[02:41] <micahg> [reed]: KDE integration :)
[02:41] <[reed]> SuSe is working on that
[02:41] <[reed]> I'm looking for other issues
[02:41] <[reed]> hmm
[02:42] <micahg> [reed]: that's the main thing for Ubuntu I think, that, teh LCD fix which is a Cairo issue and teh Font Hinting issue which we don't know who's repsonsible
[05:30] <micahg> fta: asac: ff3.7 daily breakage due to mozilla 527659, I already commented for NSS to be bumped in configure.in upstream
[05:32] <micahg> fta: asac: actually,, breakage is due to mozilla 535649 being pushed, but the solution is for the configure dep to be bumped
[12:14] <asac> [reed]: i dont think both are the same issues
[12:14] <asac> one is ffox not honouring gtk hinting settings
[12:14] <asac> when using in-source cairo
[12:14] <asac> the other is about the missing lcd patch
[12:15] <asac> i will think about other most annoying bugs ... but micah was right, that atm, that one is pretty bad
[14:10] <BUGabundo> guud afternoon
[15:25] <micahg> asac: so, we're going to assume that if there's a tb-3.0 folder and/or a .m-tb folder, we move the .tb folder out of the way?
[16:14]  * Mitch spies a stevel
[16:14] <BUGabundo> micahg: make to posts
[16:14] <BUGabundo> I'll reply to 1st
[16:14] <BUGabundo> lets see if that works
[16:14] <BUGabundo> wait....
[16:15] <BUGabundo> lets doit the other way around
[16:15] <BUGabundo> so I don't have to setup a new accoutn
[16:15] <BUGabundo> ehe
[16:15] <micahg> BUGabundo: k
[16:16] <BUGabundo> micahg: sent
[16:16] <BUGabundo> reply to test1
[16:16] <BUGabundo> lol
[16:16] <BUGabundo> test1 got eatend
[16:16] <BUGabundo> ahah
[16:16] <micahg> all, I saw was test1 :)
[16:17] <BUGabundo> test 3 too
[16:17] <BUGabundo> just reply to 1 or 2
[16:18] <micahg> wfm
[16:18] <BUGabundo> hey it works
[16:18] <micahg> 0.2.4
[16:19] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 0.2.4-0ubuntu1
[16:20] <BUGabundo> guess they fixed it
[16:20] <BUGabundo> and never closed the bug
[16:27] <micahg> fagan: happy to continue the discussion if you like...
[16:28] <fagan> ah I think my question has been answered
[16:29] <fagan> If it was a manpower problem I would have done it myself but its an upstream problem so nothing much we can do
[16:29] <micahg> fagan: right :)
[16:30] <micahg> fagan: you can fix the dailies if you like :)
[16:30] <BUGabundo> micahg: http://identi.ca/conversation/21314135#notice-21315189
[16:30] <BUGabundo> it failed there
[16:30] <BUGabundo> but then again I'm putting OMB in the mes
[16:30] <micahg> BUGabundo: looks good to me
[16:31] <BUGabundo> no
[16:31] <micahg> oh
[16:31] <micahg> nm...
[16:31] <BUGabundo> see, my reply should be to the last one
[16:31] <BUGabundo> but I blame OMB for that
[16:31] <BUGabundo> no µbp
[16:31] <BUGabundo> hope that gets fixed in OMB 0.2
[16:47] <jdstrand> micahg: you are handling the firefox stable security releases now?
[16:48] <micahg> jdstrand: I'm preparing them
[16:48] <micahg> at least this time around
[16:48] <jdstrand> micahg: you asked for 2 USNs-- is that for ff3 and f35?
[16:48] <micahg> jdstrand: yes, 3.0.18 and 3.5.8
[16:48] <micahg> 3.0.18: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?keywords_type=anywords&keywords=fixed<IP_ADDRESS>+verified<IP_ADDRESS>&order=map_products.name%2Cmap_components.name%2Cbugs.bug_id
[16:49] <micahg> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20status1.9.1:.8-fixed
[16:49] <jdstrand> (the second is empty, but that's ok)
[16:49] <micahg> the second link has 62 bugs
[16:50] <jdstrand> oh, the colon made it truncate
[16:50]  * jdstrand sees them now
[16:50] <jdstrand> micahg: 895-1 and 895-2
[16:50] <jdstrand> micahg: hold on a second...
[16:51] <jdstrand> micahg: use 895-1 and 896-1 instead
[16:51] <micahg> jdstrand: k, I'm assuming 895 for 3.0 and 896 for 3.5
[16:54] <jdstrand> micahg: that is fine, sure
[17:14] <micahg> jdstrand: thanks
[17:14] <jdstrand> np
[18:21] <fta> kenvandine, "Indicator Applet" has quit unexpectedly
[19:14] <kenvandine> fta, there are some bugs with the latest batch of uploads, mind filing a bug?
[19:14] <fta> kenvandine, UnreportableReason: You have some obsolete package versions installed blah blah
[19:15] <kenvandine> ah... then it might be fixed
[19:15] <kenvandine> i uploaded fixes for everything i had found
[19:42] <fta> kenvandine, gwibber is no longer in the tray? :(  how do you fold it then?
[19:43] <kenvandine> fold it?
[19:43] <fta> make it disappear
[19:43] <fta> without closing it
[19:43] <kenvandine> just close the window
[19:43] <fta> it's too slow to restart
[19:43] <kenvandine> the service keeps running
[19:43] <kenvandine> it should start real fast again
[19:43] <fta> it doesn't
[19:44] <fta> and i have a dual core 2 with 4GB
[19:44] <kenvandine> about 2s here
[19:44] <kenvandine> longer than it should be
[19:44] <kenvandine> ryan might add that back
[19:44] <fta> 5~6sec here, plus 2~3 to see the dents
[19:45] <kenvandine> really?  weird
[19:45] <kenvandine> you should see the messages immediately
[19:47] <fta> also, it still looks weird with darkroom
[21:33] <BUGabundo> A must read http://www.instantshift.com/2010/02/08/60-comic-strips-for-web-designers-about-internet-and-technology/
[23:37] <micahg> asac: around?


[21:51] <oier> hi all
[21:52] <oier> i installed ubuntu studio yesterday and i'm trying to configure my onboard sound card
[21:52] <oier> i'll buy an external sound card this month but i would like to have sound meanwhile
[21:52] <oier> i have no idea on how to do it...
[21:52] <oier> could some of you help me?
[21:53] <oier> my motherboard is an ASRock 890gx


[22:12] <bobweaver> Hello there I was wondering about putting white space in d/control I will make pastebin of it , http://paste.ubuntu.com/1366217/ I want to use the spacing that is in that paste but . is not working example
[22:12] <bobweaver>  this
[22:12] <bobweaver> .
[22:12] <bobweaver> that
[22:12] <bobweaver> forgot space on that
[22:12] <bobweaver> does the . have to also have one white space in start also    like
[22:12] <bobweaver> .
[22:12] <bobweaver>  .
[22:13] <jtaylor> the package description is no manpage
[22:13] <bobweaver> lol
[22:13] <bobweaver> this is just a thing that I am fling though
[22:14] <bobweaver> see last week ubuntu fr came to #ubuntu-tv and I spent week making Ubuntu tv MOCKUP for them so I want to package up real fast so That I can give to other locos for there party as some have asked allready
[22:16] <bobweaver> so no need to spend alot of time on this it just has to work and maybe I should add checks to make sure that the folders are there but I *must* get back to c++/nux/compiz porting of unity 2d mockup code to unity 3d but I do not want to spend all that time configing system for locos team so I will hand off ppa sor that
[22:16] <bobweaver> ppa for that *
[22:16] <bobweaver> risk <= reward deal here
[22:18] <roaksoax> bobweaver: i think you want something like: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1366234/
[22:18] <bobweaver> I think that ppa says warning v.well  https://launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+archive/ubuntutv
[22:18] <bobweaver> thanks roaksoax
[22:18] <bobweaver> I could not remember the .  part
[22:19] <roaksoax> bobweaver: and for several sentences in one paragraph, is probably more appropriate to leave 2 white spaces between them, such as 'First sentence.  Second sentence' instead of 'First sentence. Second Sentence'
[22:20] <bobweaver> what is allowed charecters in line 80 ?
[22:20] <bobweaver> characters *
[22:21] <roaksoax> bobweaver: yes I believe so. Otherwise lintian should complain
[22:28] <bobweaver> thanks again  jtaylor  you are 100% correct though I should put that in debconf ?  like when installing the application at least or package could use tons of work but that being said I just do not have the time