[09:44] <dubey> rest volumes has not activity all 0
[09:44] <miss_ubuntu> ActionParsnip can we customize locate to search only in particular directory?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: it's like searching a text file, its that fast, you can also grep the output and run commands on the output which windows can't do natively
[09:44] <miss_ubuntu> ActionParsnip can we customize locate to INDEX only in particular directory?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: to search a particular directory you'd need to grep, the database is ALL files
[09:45] <miss_ubuntu> ActionParsnip i wish u have used Everything.exe
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: locate is a lot more powerful due to text streams in UNIX
[09:45] <fasta> ActionParsnip: wrong
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> fasta: just saying 'wrong' means nothing
[09:45] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: locate has a configuration file.
[09:45] <iceroot> miss_ubuntu: --prunefs='path...'
[09:46] <iceroot> miss_ubuntu: which is for exclude see also "man updatedb"
[09:46] <fasta> ActionParsnip: I had to stop you from creating yet more wrong statements.
[09:46] <cek> are there any ready livecds with ubuntu? i don't need desktop
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> fasta: then try saying that, gives 'wrong' some context
[09:46] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: there are also desktop search products on Linux.
[09:47] <dubey> also i am using jfs filesystem
[09:47] <miss_ubuntu>  fasta e.g which product do u use?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> fasta: wouldn't you say?
[09:47] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: e.g. Beagle, but I don't know what's currently the best one.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> fasta: there is no 'best'
[09:48] <miss_ubuntu> ActionParsnip how do u run updatedb instantaneously updated whenever a new file is created?
[09:48] <Blackshirt> What definition of best?
[09:48] <miss_ubuntu> ActionParsnip thanks for the help by the way
[09:48] <waltreed> Hi all, I've just installed a 12.04 Server which installed Samba4 - Samba4 errors out and I really want samba3 anyway, yet can't seem to locate 3 in the repository. Is there an alternate repository I need to enable in sources.list to get Samba 3 instead of 4?
[09:48] <dubey> and checkarray cron doesn't finish in even for weeks
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: you could cron a job
[09:48] <miss_ubuntu> Blackshirt definition of best is : it should be as good as windows tool : Everything.exe
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> waltreed: why samba4?
[09:48] <fasta> ActionParsnip: sure there is.
[09:49] <quixotedon> how to use aircrack-ng on 12.04?
[09:49] <miss_ubuntu> ActionPtarsnip oh yes cron is always good ,
[09:49] <fasta> ActionParsnip: and I know what you mean, I just think it's an extremely annoying response.
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> fasta: for the individual, maybe. but an absolute best doesn't exist
[09:49] <PsykoMantis> dwnld backtrack lol
[09:49] <waltreed> Samba4 was all that was available and it's pre-alpha quality at best. I really want 3.
[09:49] <fasta> ActionParsnip: normal people like miss_ubuntu don't want to hear that crap.
[09:49] <miss_ubuntu> ActionParsnip and fasta bundle of thnaks
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> !info samba | waltreed
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> fasta: keep it family friendly please
[09:50] <dubey> any suggestion
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: I'd ask in the backtrack channel
[09:50] <waltreed> When I apt-cache search for samba, I don't see 3.6.3. Only the samba 4 packages.
[09:50] <fasta> ActionParsnip: normal people and miss_ubuntu don't want to hear that feces.
[09:51] <robgraves> fasta: lol
[09:51] <miss_ubuntu> fasta and ActionParsnip ... comeon guys why are u fighting ?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> fasta: there is no best, it doesn't exist
[09:51] <dontknow> what is the program remove command, equal to software center job?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> fasta: it's like asking what the best browser is, there isn't one. You will only get opinions
[09:51] <iceroot> waltreed: even on 12.10 there is samba (3) in the repos
[09:51] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: thanks dude, seems that everyone's taking the aircrack-ng issue up.. :)
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[09:51] <iceroot> waltreed: apt-cache show samba
[09:52] <fasta> ActionParsnip: if people ask that question, yon, you have to understand why y are asking it.
[09:52] <miss_ubuntu> Question: ssh / proxy / socks tunneling practice . does one need more than one laptop for that? is there any free ssh accounts out there to practice online?
[09:52] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, this will do the same job what software center does?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> fasta: Then present options and let them explore
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: yeah it will remove the package and residual configs
[09:52] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, thanks
[09:53] <fasta> ActionParsnip: I did. You on the other hand started whining about theoretical things like defining best.
[09:53] <iceroot> fasta: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:53] <miss_ubuntu> fasta ... what os do u use?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: you can remove unneeded deps with:  sudo apt-get --purge autoremove     after if you desire
[09:53] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/i386/aircrack-ng (it's deleted due to unmaintained status ??)
[09:53] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: I use multiple.
[09:54] <yalu> the user accounts module in system settings doens't allow to reset a user's password. how do you do this? (except for command line)
[09:54] <miss_ubuntu> fasta multiple on one latop ... do u use virtual machines? which software ? vmware? i try to use vmware on ubuntu for xp but its takes a lot of resources
[09:54] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, that command will remove all unnecessary dependencies?
[09:54] <miss_ubuntu> yalu why can't u use command line?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: yes, if you remove packages and it makes others not be needed, the autoremove command will remove them, saves space
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: +1
[09:55] <iceroot> yalu: sudo passwd username
[09:56] <Mikey^> dontknow: also, you can purge the cofiguration files, though you wont save much space :)
[09:56] <miss_ubuntu> Question:  is there any free ssh accounts out there to practice tunneling online?
[09:56] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: I don't dual on laptops and I don't virtualize on laptops either.
[09:56] <belgianguy> anyone else having issues with Flash in 12.04
[09:56] <belgianguy> esp on YouTube
[09:56] <dubey> is it good to stop checkarray cron ?
[09:56] <fasta> belgianguy: yes
[09:56] <iceroot> !details | belgianguy
[09:56] <fasta> belgianguy: I get smurfs instead of people.
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: tried virtualbox?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: what issue do you get?
[09:57] <belgianguy> the video plays, but the marker of where the video is at that point in time does not update
[09:57] <miss_ubuntu> nops ActionParsnip is it better than vmware in terms of resource utiliztion?
[09:57] <dontknow> Mikey^, "sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename" this command doesn!t remove config files? if so what is the command for that?
[09:57] <belgianguy> unless I mouse over, it'll immedeatly update
[09:58] <belgianguy> same for the volume button
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: its different, try it
[09:58] <iceroot> dontknow: it is removing conffiles
[09:58] <Mikey^> dontknow: sudo aptitude purge ~c
[09:58] <Mikey^> dontknow: there are many commands to do that though..
[09:58] <iceroot> dontknow: but "conffile" is a special term in debian packages and does not mean for example /home/username/.program/my.conf
[09:58] <belgianguy> I'm using chrome btw
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: try setting fewer resources to the guest OS
[09:58] <miss_ubuntu> ACtionParsnip installing thanks
[09:58] <c0deMaster> how to permanently disable sound capturing?
[09:58] <iceroot> dontknow: a conffile must not be a text-file with configs
[09:58] <nawuko> heylukecarrier, some german here? i have a problem :D
[09:59] <fasta> I verified that .mp4 version of the file works. So, Youtube Flash version gives me blue people and Youtube Mp4 version with vlc works perfect.
[09:59] <iceroot> !de | nawuko
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[09:59] <fasta> Ubuntu didn't secretly replace it with gnash, did it?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> we'll see
[10:00] <yalu> miss_ubuntu: well I use commandline all the time, but I'm researching LTSP for people who don't
[10:01] <dontknow> i wonder when canonical will release chromium 19
[10:01] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: another browser has the same problem, btw.
[10:01] <fasta> It's using the non-free flash.
[10:01] <miss_ubuntu_> hi guys which irc client do u use on ubuntu? does it automatically connects u to ur channels after internet is disconnected and connected again
[10:02] <iceroot> miss_ubuntu_: every client has a automaticly reconnect-option
[10:02] <dontknow> miss_ubuntu, xchat it connects auto
[10:02] <c0deMaster> how to permanently disable sound capturing?
[10:02] <iceroot> miss_ubuntu_: and asking what people are using is a bad idea, e.g. if i name "irssi"
[10:02] <quixotedon> miss_ubuntu_: i'm using empathy, yes, if you make it as an auto connect option
[10:02] <miss_ubuntu_> icroot i use xchat but it doesnt dontknow
[10:03] <miss_ubuntu_> thanks boys i use xchat but it doesnt seem to auto connect
[10:03] <dontknow> miss_ubuntu, at opening edit your favorite channel
[10:04] <dontknow> miss_ubuntu, edit and add #ubuntu
[10:04] <fasta> miss_ubuntu, ActionParsnip: it is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/968647
[10:04] <belgianguy> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/3Xz6RirY
[10:05] <miss_ubuntu_> thanks dontknow , fasta ActionParsnip
[10:05] <quixotedon> miss_ubuntu_: have you made the channel favorite?
[10:05] <quixotedon> :)
[10:05] <ItsMeLenny> WOW! finally i can watch youtube videos without people being blue, turn off video accell
[10:05] <Your_Dog> Mine didn't work that way, I had to do something with the config
[10:06] <Your_Dog> with flash inorder to remove the blue tint
[10:06] <fasta> ItsMeLenny: you had the same problem?
[10:06] <belgianguy> I don't have the smurf problem, but it seems it doesn't update it's user interface elements
  i have edited channels list and click autoconnect at startup
[10:06] <ItsMeLenny> fasta, yeah ive had it for months!
[10:06] <fasta> belgianguy: that sounds like a JavaScript problem.
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: that's not all of the command I gave....
[10:06] <quixotedon> miss_ubuntu_: great!! :)
[10:06] <ItsMeLenny> fasta, just disabled video accel just then
[10:07] <miss_ubuntu_> OMG there are so many ubuntu channels
[10:07] <belgianguy> ActionParsnip: oops, hang on
[10:07] <fasta> ItsMeLenny: which specific solution did you pick?
[10:07] <fasta> ItsMeLenny: never mind, I see what you did.
[10:07] <fasta> belgianguy: I would suggest you get Firefox from Mozilla directly and try again.
[10:08] <fasta> belgianguy: then you can see whether Ubuntu did anything wrong. Also use a clean profile.
[10:08] <anonymous> anyone here?
[10:09] <belgianguy> http://pastebin.com/Ry6iPtEt
[10:10] <Guest30565> ...
[10:10] <Guest30565> heloo
[10:10] <belgianguy> firefox doesn't have the problem
[10:10] <belgianguy> so then it's chrome acting up?
[10:11] <Bender_> in Ubuntu 10.10 my software center doesn't show up the item in each category, even if below i can see "1322 items available". I know it's an old distro but is the only that runs well in this laptop. Can you help me please?
[10:11] <Guest30565> guys...im new here...
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: try:  sudo dpkg -P flashplugin64-installer; sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin
[10:14] <Advocated> Hi there, does anyone recommend any software that will burn .avi > dvd format(as high as possible)?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Advocated: devede is one option
[10:14] <kelvinella> Hi
[10:15] <Advocated> ActionParsnip, thanks, will download and try that
[10:15] <Blackshirt> quixotedon, you should join backtrack channel for something related pentest wakakakaka
[10:17] <kelvin911> hi
[10:17] <Blackshirt> Hi kelvin911
[10:17] <iceroot> which ubuntu-version was the first hybrid-iso so that dd on a usb-drive worked? 11.10 or 12.04?
[10:18] <kelvinella> Hi Blackshirt
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: 11.10 I believe.
[10:18] <CaptObvious> Hi, I've been googling this for a while and haven't been able to find any fix - I'm running ubuntu server 12.04 and I'm experiencing really slow downloads with wget (about 400KB/s), that a windows 7 machine on the same switch gets 10MB/s+ - any ideas?
[10:18] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: ok
[10:19] <CaptObvious> the ethernet controller on the machine is a Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5723
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> CaptObvious: what network chip are you using>
[10:19] <CaptObvious> ^
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> hehe
[10:19] <CaptObvious> great minds think alike :P
[10:20] <CaptObvious> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1735584.html <- that's pretty much my exact setup
[10:21] <CaptObvious> except I'm not using one of those dodgy powerline links, it's microserver->gigabit switch->cable modem
[10:21] <jazzaxe> re: LibreOffice  -   I'm trying to sort by date ascending but the date order is sorted by day number ie 1st Jan and 1st feb are listed side-by-side and 30th Jan appears at bottom of the list.  What am I doing wrong?!
[10:22] <dontknow> what is the daemon config file in ubuntu?
[10:22] <dontknow> i mean where is it?
[10:22] <dontknow> what is the name
[10:22] <Blackshirt> Dontknow, what you mean?
[10:22] <iceroot> dontknow: you mean the xinetd?
[10:23] <Blackshirt> What daemon you mean?
[10:23] <dontknow> Blackshirt, iceroot, i mean, for example ufw, network etc... starts at baoot, where is the configuration file for that?
[10:23] <dontknow> *boot
[10:23] <Mikey^> dontknow: /etc/rc2.d/
[10:24] <dontknow> in arch it is in /etc/rc.conf for example
[10:24] <Blackshirt> Dontknow, look at /etc/init or /etc/init.d
[10:25] <dontknow> Blackshirt, Mikey^  but what file?
[10:25] <dontknow> i will give you example from arch
[10:25] <llutz> dontknow: there is no single file controlling this. look at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/  to understand how upstart works
[10:26] <Blackshirt> Dontknow, okey
[10:26] <llutz> !upstart | dontknow
[10:26] <dontknow> in arch, it is in /etc/rc.conf, in rc.conf there is a daemon section like this DAEMON=(dbus, ufw, network, ......) where is that file in ubuntu?
[10:26] <fasta> ItsMeLenny: where did you disable it exactly?
[10:26] <CaptObvious> no clues on my networking issue?
[10:26] <Mikey^> dontknow: /etc/init.d/rc
[10:26] <Mikey^> dontknow: we dont have that
[10:27] <Mikey^> dontknow: its based on the runlevel and the starting letter in /etc/rcN.d, where N is your runlevel
[10:27] <dontknow> Mikey^, so what we have lol?
[10:27] <belgianguy> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:27] <belgianguy> Ithink it's fixed now
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: all ok now?
[10:27] <Mikey^> dontknow: take a look at /etc/init.d/rc
[10:27] <belgianguy> ActionParsnip: yes :)
[10:27] <llutz> Mikey^: its not runlevel based since upstart, its dependency driven
[10:28] <fasta> CaptObvious: wget downloads via http. You are testing wrong.
[10:28] <Mikey^> llutz: yeah, true
[10:28] <llutz> !runlevel
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: sweet, that gives 64bit flash for your 64bit OS :)
[10:28] <fasta> CaptObvious: use ftp for example or use some program designed to test network issues (don't know any of the top of my head, but they do exist)
[10:28] <ItsMeLenny> fasta, right click on the google video and go into "settings"
[10:29] <Blackshirt> Dontknow, arch, i think adopt bsd style for init
[10:29] <CaptObvious> fasta - I'm downloading the same file via HTTP from my windows box and it's *much* faster
[10:29] <CaptObvious> so how am I testing wrong?
[10:29] <dontknow> Mikey^, had a look at it i don't think it is what i seek
[10:29] <Mikey^> ok
[10:30] <dontknow> Blackshirt, i just want to be sure if preload starting at boot
[10:31] <appi_uppi> can i upgrade my bios from version 1.04 to latest, i use acer aspire 5536
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> appi_uppi: there may be a dos app, or you may need windows
[10:32] <appi_uppi> ActionParsnip, i only run ubuntu
[10:32] <fasta> CaptObvious: because you should throw out all extra variables first.
[10:32] <Bender_> hello, any way to make ma 10.10 software center see the item in each category back again?
[10:32] <fasta> CaptObvious: perhaps all communication is slow.
[10:32] <fasta> CaptObvious: perhaps it's just your webserver.
[10:33] <CaptObvious> what's odd is local transfer is fine - just used iperf between 2 boxes on the local network and got 880mbit/s over gigabit
[10:33] <fasta> CaptObvious: in short, use the scientific method.
[10:33] <CaptObvious> *sigh*
[10:33] <fasta> CaptObvious: sigh what?
[10:33] <CaptObvious> I'm downloading the same file, from the same place with both boxes
[10:33] <CaptObvious> one is over 10MB/s, the other is 400kb/s
[10:33] <fasta> CaptObvious: now, so only now you can go on the next step.
[10:33] <zallx> can i update ? can i upgrade ? can i install vdr or yavdr ? ifso how to help it from exiting with error becuz of xbmc-live ?.? o_0
[10:33] <fasta> CaptObvious: the next step is to read the fine manual of your webserver.
[10:33] <zallx> apt
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Bender_: Maverick is EOL dude, there are no repos
[10:34] <CaptObvious> I don't control the webserver
[10:34] <fasta> CaptObvious: for someone named CaptObvious that shouldn't be so hard.
[10:34] <CaptObvious> linode does
[10:34] <zallx> maybe synaptic
[10:34] <CaptObvious> and the webserver is obviously fine if I can pull down 10MB/s from my windows machine
[10:34] <fasta> CaptObvious: ok, well, you didn't actually say that.
[10:34] <CaptObvious> I did, several times
[10:35] <fasta> CaptObvious: no, you didn't.
[10:35] <fasta> CaptObvious: it was ambiguous.
[10:35] <CaptObvious> which part are you referring to?
[10:35] <fasta> CaptObvious: anyway, it's now clear.
[10:35] <zallx> E: xbmc-live: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[10:35] <fasta> CaptObvious: wget by default tries to not attack a server either.
[10:35] <zallx> how to fix subprocesses
[10:35] <fasta> CaptObvious: so, perhaps it also does this for just a single download.
[10:36] <zallx> anyone ?
[10:36] <CaptObvious> fasta - I would assume google chrome tries not to attack a server either
[10:36] <fasta> CaptObvious: so, you could still try a different protocol.
[10:36] <CaptObvious> but okay
[10:36] <fasta> CaptObvious: i.e. try ftp.
[10:36] <fasta> CaptObvious: with e.g. filezilla.
[10:36] <Blackshirt> Zallk, purge first, and then try reinstall
[10:36] <CaptObvious> first I need to find a large file on an FTP server
[10:36] <zallx> k thkx
[10:37] <zallx> !addbutton synaptic purge
[10:37] <fasta> CaptObvious: no, you just do cat /dev/urandom > mybigfile
[10:37] <zallx> lol
[10:37] <CaptObvious> fasta - that would be at the wrong end
[10:37] <CaptObvious> I'm experiencing slow downloads
[10:37] <fasta> CaptObvious: no, it wouldn't.
[10:38] <fasta> CaptObvious: you have to do that at the server of course.
[10:38] <zallx> BlackshirtBay whats the fastest way tobe watching tv on ur phone ?
[10:38] <fasta> CaptObvious: you don't have shell access?
[10:38] <CaptObvious> my server is next to me
[10:38] <CaptObvious> it downloads slowly
[10:38] <CaptObvious> from the internet
[10:38] <zallx> and from lan ?
[10:38] <fasta> CaptObvious: you said it was on linode.
[10:38] <fasta> CaptObvious: you are really making no sense.
[10:38] <CaptObvious> no, linode host download speed files
[10:38] <CaptObvious> http://www.linode.com/speedtest/
[10:39] <CaptObvious> zallx - iperf throughput is fine on LAN
[10:39] <fasta> CaptObvious: I will stop playing this guess the question game. Next time you just write a coherent story on e.g. a paste site and then provide an URL to that.
[10:40] <fasta> CaptObvious: likely nobody has understood what exactly you said.
[10:40] <zallx> Setting up xbmc-live (2:11.0-pvr+p8~git20120428.6960449-0ubuntu1~stable75~oneiric) ...
[10:40] <zallx> sed: can't read /etc/uxlaunch/uxlaunch: No such file or directory
[10:40] <zallx> error in configure with apt
[10:40] <fasta> zallx: report it as a bug
[10:40] <matonka007> Hello, does anybody can help me?
[10:40] <zallx> lol
[10:40] <CaptObvious> I did write a coherent story
[10:41] <fasta> CaptObvious: no, you didn't.
[10:41] <zallx> its oneiric ... i dont have that i think
[10:41] <CaptObvious> I fail to see how it wasn't, but anyway
[10:41] <quixotedon> matonka007: type your questions straight away.. :)
[10:41] <CaptObvious> ftp is downloading now, but it doesn't give a realtime output
[10:41] <CaptObvious> so I need to wait until the file is done
[10:41] <fasta> CaptObvious: do you hear 5 people say that it was easy to understand?
[10:42] <CaptObvious> fasta - I see people reading multiple stories at once and making assumptions
[10:42] <fasta> CaptObvious: no, you don't. As such, it wasn't a coherent story.
[10:42] <fasta> CaptObvious: yes, because there is no coherent story.
[10:42] <CaptObvious> I mentioned "linode" once and then someone assumed that I said that my server was a linode, which I never said
[10:42] <CaptObvious> anyway, jesus, I'm not here for an argument, I'm here to get my problem solved
[10:42] <fasta> CaptObvious: which is an intelligent response.
[10:42] <fasta> CaptObvious: because it assumes that the information which is not specified is the most likely.
[10:43] <matonka007> I installed ubuntu 12.04 and after i have screen with,"out of range" and black screen with mouse, i cant do anything
[10:43] <CaptObvious> I mentioned linode directly after I said "I don't control the webserver"
[10:43] <LjL> fasta: yes, let's turn this place into a forum, with people pasting "stories" from URLs... no, that's not how it works ;)
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> matonka007: whay video chip do you use?
[10:43] <matonka007> Nvidia
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> matonka007: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[10:43] <zallx> beheer@beheer-MS-7318:~$ vdr
[10:43] <zallx> vdr: can't access video directory /var/lib/video.00
[10:44] <CaptObvious> anyway, starting again: I'm experiencing slow download speeds (400KB/s) from the internet on an ubuntu server box, which a windows machine on the same network downloading the same file from the same place experiences over 10MB/s download speed.
[10:44] <CaptObvious> fasta - anything you'd like me to clarify there?
[10:44] <c0deMaster> how to permanently disable sound capturing?
[10:44] <CaptObvious> also, the ethernet controller on the machine is a Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5723
[10:45] <matonka007> I cant edit the boot option, because it shows my bios logo and after the, "out of range"
[10:45] <celthunder> c0deMaster: remove your sound card
[10:45] <fasta> Example: I am doing a speedtest on url linode.com/dontcare on Ubuntu 11.10 and Windows 7. On Windows 7 I get 100MB/s when using IE.exe and on Linux I get 400KB/s. My hardware is a <whatever you just said>
[10:45] <CaptObvious> I've tried using iperf between 2 local machines and the throughput is fine, it's just out to the internet that it has an issue
[10:45] <CaptObvious> fasta - that's what I just said, yes
[10:45] <fasta> CaptObvious: you should have said that the very first time.
[10:45] <CaptObvious> perhaps you need to write a web app with form fields and have people fill that out instead of conversing?
[10:45] <CaptObvious> you could call it a "forum"
[10:46] <CaptObvious> you'd lose the realtime aspect though, which would be a shame
[10:46] <unkn-error> I have installed ubuntu IN a usb stick, with ext4 but it's running so slowww, why? If I make the stick with unetbootlin it is faster altrought it is running under some kind of "transparent decompression (squasfs)"? Can be ubuntu installed IN the stick and be faster like it is if I when it live FROM usb?
[10:46] <CaptObvious> anyway, the FTP transfer is still going, on the windows machine it would have finished by now
[10:46] <celthunder> CaptObvious: id much rather be in irc than on a forum.
[10:46] <CaptObvious> celthunder - me too
[10:47] <matonka007> What i must do to edit boot preferences?
[10:47] <fasta> CaptObvious: apt-get install bwm-ng && bwm-ng
[10:47] <fasta> CaptObvious: does it confirm the slow download speed?
[10:47] <LjL> CaptObvious: for what is worth, your question seemed pretty coherent to me, perhaps not completely comprehensive but that's what asking stuff is for.
[10:47] <CaptObvious> LjL - thank you
[10:48] <CaptObvious> ftp did 391.66KB/s
[10:48] <fasta> CaptObvious: you should also look at top and report whether it uses all yoru CPU.
[10:49] <matonka007> Sorry Im on android :-(
[10:49] <matonka007> I have the broken ubuntu infront of me
[10:49] <fasta> CaptObvious: you should also try to put another NIC in it if the CPU usage is low.
[10:50] <CaptObvious> 400kb/s from the linode speed test site with wget, 2% CPU usage
[10:50] <nlici> my computer does not read the Turkish subtitles when i watch film what do i have to do in order the computer does show the Turkish characters on the subtitles please advice me what to do  thanks in advance for your help
[10:50] <CaptObvious> I have no slots for another NIC, and I've just had windows on this machine and it was fine on there
[10:50] <fasta> CaptObvious: and you had fast lan speeds also from the Linux machine?
[10:51] <CaptObvious> yeah, I ran iperf and got 880mbit/sec through gigE
[10:51] <fasta> CaptObvious: perhaps you have some bandwidth limiter running?
[10:51] <fasta> CaptObvious: it might be that you had forgotten about that.
[10:51] <CaptObvious> nope, I've just wiped the machine and put ubuntu on it this morning.  it had windows 7 on it before and was fine
[10:51] <CaptObvious> so there's no limit at the router level
[10:51] <khmerog> whats everyones favorite movie?
[10:52] <fasta> CaptObvious: also try a different speedtest website.
[10:52] <khmerog> opps.. sorry wrong chat room
[10:52] <CaptObvious> I've tried setting the MTU too, tried 1492 and 1500
[10:52] <CaptObvious> no dice
[10:52] <matonka007> Please help me :'(
[10:53] <adil> iam new to linux & i have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my pc
[10:53] <CaptObvious> fasta - I've tried 4 or 5 now, the maximum I've seen after setting the MTU to 1500 is 700KB/s
[10:53] <CaptObvious> (for reference, my connection tops out at 12.5MB/s)
[10:53] <adil> and installed mysql how to start it run my commands ,so help me
[10:54] <CaptObvious> adil - mysql -u root -p
[10:54] <CaptObvious> then it'll ask for the root password that you specified during the mysql install
[10:54] <nlici> my computer does not read the Turkish subtitles when i watch film what do i have to do in order the computer does show the Turkish characters on the subtitles please advice me what to do  thanks in advance for your help
[10:54] <matonka007> I have blackscreen after install ubuntu 12.04, anybody can help? Thanks
[10:55] <adil> thank you
[10:55] <CaptObvious> matonka007 - are you using an HDTV as a monitor for the machine?
[10:56] <CaptObvious> I ask because I am too and mine doesn't support whichever resolution is used between POST and the framebuffer kicking in
[10:56] <CaptObvious> so you may have to hook it up to a normal monitor to sort it out
[10:56] <fasta> CaptObvious: you could try making a tunnel connection to your windows machine and internet via that.
[10:57] <fasta> CaptObvious: oh, sorry you didn't have two machines.
[10:57] <matonka007> I have led LG 1920*1680
[10:57] <CaptObvious> fasta - that'd defeat the object of this box.  I might have to give up and just put windows back on it
[10:57] <CaptObvious> I do, I just have this microserver so my desktop doesn't have to be on all the time
[10:57] <fasta> CaptObvious: I meant just as a test; it sounds kind of ridiculous.
[10:57] <matonka007> Now i see the login screen with my name
[10:57] <CaptObvious> that's good then matonka007
[10:58] <CaptObvious> it sounds like your TV doesn't support the resolution that it's using for the console
[10:58] <CaptObvious> fasta - my other machine is a windows machine so it'll take a bit of fudging to get an SSH tunnel through to it
[10:58] <CaptObvious> something to try after I've slept I think
[10:58] <fasta> CaptObvious: otherwise I am out of ideas. If your LAN works, then your Internet should also work at that speed.
[10:58] <CaptObvious> hmm
[10:58] <matonka007> What I must do now? When i login it shows the black screen again
[10:59] <fasta> CaptObvious: I know one other test.
[10:59] <CaptObvious> matonka007 - plug it into a proper monitor
[10:59] <fasta> CaptObvious: you could start multiple speed tests at the same time.
[10:59] <CaptObvious> in /etc/network/interfaces I have it set as static, what's the "network" parameter for?  I have it set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:59] <CaptObvious> fasta - ah, to see if it's a per-connection issue?
[10:59] <fasta> CaptObvious: ok, it might be another thing.
[10:59] <matonka007> Im now logged in into the Ubuntu 2D :-)
[10:59] <fasta> CaptObvious: you should set your IP address manually to the right address.
[11:00] <fasta> CaptObvious: or set it via DHCP.
[11:00] <CaptObvious> it is set to the right address
[11:00] <fasta> CaptObvious: if you set it to the same address as your windows machine, you get a nightmware.
[11:00] <matonka007> I must install the drivers?
[11:00] <fasta> CaptObvious: which address is it?
[11:00] <fasta> CaptObvious: and which address does your windows machine have?
[11:00] <fasta> CaptObvious: if you think 'dude, I really know that', just say that.
[11:01] <fasta> CaptObvious: otherwise go with the parallel speed test.
[11:01] <CaptObvious> the microserver is <IP_ADDRESS>, static
[11:01] <CaptObvious> the desktop is <IP_ADDRESS> DHCP
[11:01] <CaptObvious> DHCP range is 100-199
[11:01] <fasta> CaptObvious: huh
[11:01] <fasta> CaptObvious: then they are not on the same lan.
[11:01] <matonka007> The Nvidia drivers is already instaled, where is the problem?
[11:01] <CaptObvious> yeah they are, same subnet
[11:02] <fasta> CaptObvious: 82.18 is your external IP
[11:02] <CaptObvious> okay, I'm getting 1-2MB/s running 2 in parallel
[11:02] <fasta> CaptObvious: the Windows machine must also have an address like 10.0.0.X.
[11:02] <CaptObvious> it is
[11:02] <CaptObvious> <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:02] <fasta> CaptObvious: no.
[11:02] <fasta> CaptObvious: that's your external address.
[11:02] <CaptObvious> no, that's my internal address
[11:03] <CaptObvious> my external IP is 82.18....
[11:03] <LjL> CaptObvious: err, that's what you pasted
[11:03] <CaptObvious> LjL - huh?
[11:03] <fasta> CaptObvious: coherent story... please
[11:03] <CaptObvious> fasta - I don't think your questions make sense
[11:03] <fasta> CaptObvious: 82.* is not an internal address.
 CaptObvious: and which address does your windows machine have?
[11:03] <LjL> CaptObvious: you pasted <IP_ADDRESS>, which really looks like an external address, and you just confirmed it
[11:03] <CaptObvious> did you mean internal or external?
[11:04] <CaptObvious> I didn't paste anything
[11:04] <fasta> CaptObvious: 10.* looks like an internal address.
[11:04] <CaptObvious> it *is*
[11:04] <CaptObvious> right, stop
[11:04] <fasta> CaptObvious: 82.* is NOT
[11:04] <CaptObvious> I know this
[11:04] <CaptObvious> just stop
[11:04] <CaptObvious> you asked: <fasta> CaptObvious: and which address does your windows machine have?
[11:04] <fasta> CaptObvious: you didn't say that.
[11:04] <CaptObvious> did you mean internal or external?
[11:04] <FloodBot1> CaptObvious: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:05] <fasta> CaptObvious: internal of course.
[11:05] <CaptObvious> and I answered with internal IPs
 the microserver is <IP_ADDRESS>, static
 the desktop is <IP_ADDRESS> DHCP
[11:05] <fasta> CaptObvious: no... you did not.
[11:05] <CaptObvious> scroll up
[11:05] <CaptObvious> and look
[11:05] <fasta> CaptObvious: 82.* is not an internal address.
[11:05] <CaptObvious> fasta - you were the first one to even type 82.*
[11:05] <LjL> CaptObvious: [13:02:35] <CaptObvious> <IP_ADDRESS> [13:02:50] <fasta> CaptObvious: that's your external address. [13:02:59] <CaptObvious> no, that's my internal address
[11:06] <fasta> CaptObvious: no, I was not.
[11:06] <CaptObvious> one second
[11:06] <fasta> CaptObvious: I wrote the literal string 82.* first.
[11:06] <CaptObvious> yes, one second
[11:06] <fasta> CaptObvious: but it expands to your IP address obviously.
[11:07] <fasta> CaptObvious: as such, you introduced a string of text starting with 82 first.
[11:07] <spacebug-> can anyone tell me what the plus signs comes from? http://pastebin.com/1PnwNU8v   they have not always been there when using sv_SE.UTF-8  If I use 'date +%c' they are not there.
[11:07] <fasta> For someone named CaptObvious lots isn't obvious to you.
[11:07] <CaptObvious> how many times do I need to say "one second"?
[11:07] <CaptObvious> http://i.imgur.com/Zp8bt.png
[11:07] <CaptObvious> that's a screenshot of that section of my IRC client
[11:07] <LjL> CaptObvious: ... that's not what we saw.
[11:08] <zallx> so vdr where are we ?
[11:08] <CaptObvious> yeah, that's what's confusing me
[11:08] <CaptObvious> I haven't even had my external IP in my clipboard
[11:09] <fasta> CaptObvious: then how come that we have it?
[11:09] <matonka007> I can login only to ubuntu 2D :-(
[11:09] <CaptObvious> I have no idea :(
[11:09] <CaptObvious> that's quite worrying
[11:09] <zallx> anyone know about vdr and howto ?
[11:09] <fasta> CaptObvious: perhaps you should go to a mental institution?
[11:09] <LjL> fasta: that's uncalled for
[11:09] <CaptObvious> fasta - the screenshot clearly showed I didn't put my external IP into the channel
[11:09] <zallx> fasta: thank u ... allready in one
[11:09] <CaptObvious> when you guys saw it
[11:10] <fasta> CaptObvious: no, it does not.
[11:10] <fasta> CaptObvious: you said it earlier.
[11:10] <crazypete> I'm looking for a lightweight texteditor that has no menu or other clutter in fullscreen mode. Anyone know something like that?
[11:10] <fasta> CaptObvious: at <your hour>:02
[11:10] <CaptObvious> I don't have timestamps on
[11:10] <fasta> crazypete: emacs can do that :)
[11:10] <CaptObvious> but you have it directly before me saying "no, that's my internal address"
[11:10] <CaptObvious> which is on that screenshot
[11:11] <fasta> CaptObvious: I am going to go with either mental or trolling now.
[11:11] <fasta> CaptObvious: you have had your chance.
[11:11] <CaptObvious> neither, I'm genuinely confused.
[11:11] <crazypete> fasta, but it is the opposite of lightweight
[11:11] <CaptObvious> anyway, it doesn't really matter that much
[11:11] <fasta> crazypete: I disagree.
[11:11] <crazypete> I try to remove the menu in leafpad but no luck
[11:11] <fasta> crazypete: try to start it emacs -nw
[11:11] <CaptObvious> the internal IPs are right, they're on the same subnet
[11:12] <fasta> crazypete: it stars crazy fast
[11:12] <fasta> crazypete: you just have to disable a few things.
[11:12] <fasta> crazypete: like the display of the menu bar, etc.
[11:12] <fasta> crazypete: I run it exactly like you describe.
[11:12] <LjL> CaptObvious: perhaps you have an auto-replace in mIRC for those IPs, for some reason?
[11:13] <crazypete> fasta, apt says it is huge! :)
[11:13] <fasta> crazypete: alias nano='emacs -nw' here
[11:13] <CaptObvious> LjL - do you mind pastebinning your log please?
[11:13] <feeze> I'm trying to install a package from a repo that I added to my sources.list file, but apt-get keeps trying to install an older version from the ubuntu repos.  how do I specify that I want the newer version from the added repo?
[11:13] <fasta> crazypete: nano was my previous command for a quick edit.
[11:13] <CaptObvious> maybe if I see the conversation from your side I can see why fasta seems to be so angry with me
[11:13] <fasta> crazypete: do you want something that runs in X?
[11:14] <crazypete> fasta, I would prefere that
[11:14] <fasta> crazypete: well, Emacs also runs in X.
[11:14] <fasta> crazypete: otherwise gedit.
[11:14] <fasta> crazypete: gedit and kate are sort of for people who don't want to learn a real editor.
[11:15] <foreverglory> hello every
[11:15] <LjL> CaptObvious: http://paste.ubuntu.com/997178/ - the logs will also appear in about 45 minutes on http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
[11:15] <kevin> heyup
[11:15] <CaptObvious> thanks LjL
[11:15] <crazypete> fasta, I am one of those people I guess
[11:15] <fasta> crazypete: are you just a user or an aspiring developer?
[11:15] <crazypete> How do I kill bottom stuff and menu in fullscreen emacs. Started it wit -nv
[11:16] <kevin> just trying out artistx
[11:16] <CaptObvious> LjL - what IP do you see here?  <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:16] <crazypete> I'm writing oldfashion c
[11:16] <LjL> CaptObvious: <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:16] <fasta> crazypete: for C, you can better get some real IDE.
[11:16] <LjL> CaptObvious: are you using a bouncer (irc proxy) by any chance?
[11:16] <CaptObvious> nope, but mIRC might auto-translate it
[11:16] <CaptObvious> LjL - http://i.imgur.com/Y7I98.png
[11:16] <fasta> CaptObvious: also friends don't let other friends use mIRC.
[11:16] <LjL> CaptObvious: would be weird, but i guess it's possible
[11:17] <matanya_> how can I make outgoing calls using empathy on ubuntu with my own sip server?incoming calls work well
[11:17] <CaptObvious> fasta - after how you've treated me today I wouldn't really call you a friend
[11:17] <crazypete> emacs is even worse. now I need to remove both its clutter and the clutter of lxterm
[11:17] <fasta> CaptObvious: uhm, I put more time in you than anyone else here.
[11:17] <CaptObvious> you spent a lot of it berating me for something I had no control over
[11:17] <CaptObvious> but yeah
[11:17] <fasta> crazypete: Emacs is not worse.
[11:18] <fasta> crazypete: you just don't want to learn how it works.
[11:18] <fasta> crazypete: which is OK, but Emacs is a GREAT editor.
[11:18] <chu> crazypete: If you're willing to give it some time, I could PM you how to use it.
[11:18] <fasta> crazypete: in #emacs they want to answer your questions.
[11:19] <lJ6il> Hello there. I'm under Ubuntu and i installed vim-scripts package. I'd like to activate supertab plugin. How can i do this? Adding a line in .vimrc ?
[11:19] <fasta> crazypete: but you should do C-h t first, I think.
[11:19] <fasta> crazypete: that starts the basic tutorial.
[11:19] <LjL> CaptObvious: i don't have a Windows machine handy to test this on. a cursory Google search of "mIRC translate internal IP" didn't show much. if i were you, i'd test this with another client, i don't like the looks of this
[11:20] <CaptObvious> LjL - yeah, I was googling it too
[11:20] <CaptObvious> I also asked in dalnet #mirc
[11:20] <CaptObvious> but that's a *stupid* feature if it is one
[11:20] <LjL> agreed
[11:20] <CaptObvious> but to be honest, I'm hoping it is an mIRC feature
[11:20] <LjL> CaptObvious: it might be done to facilitate DCC transfers, but i don't see why it would happen outside of one
[11:20] <CaptObvious> if it's not mIRC doing it then I have bigger issues :P
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> CaptObvious: do native apps work ok?
[11:21] <CaptObvious> ActionParsnip - sorry?
[11:22] <LjL> ActionParsnip, he's on Windows. he was asking about something else, then he experienced something strange
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> CaptObvious: mirc is a windows irc client...do the irc clients available in the software centre ok, like xchat, pidgin etc
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> LjL: windows? shouldn't that be in ##windows ...
[11:22] <LjL> ActionParsnip: namely when he pastes his internal IP in here, the external one shows up instead
[11:22] <CaptObvious> ActionParsnip - I'm in here for a different issue
[11:23] <LjL> ActionParsnip: that wasn't his original question. we got sidetracked by this strange occurrence.
[11:23] <CaptObvious> this one just cropped up in the mean time
[11:23] <CaptObvious> anyway, back to my original issue - concurrent downloads seem to get 400-700KB/s each
[11:23] <CaptObvious> which is odd, it seems to be a limit per connection
[11:23] <fasta> CaptObvious: so, now don't use wget, but use something else.
[11:23] <CaptObvious> I tried with ftp too, same deal
[11:24] <fasta> CaptObvious: e.g. curl or an actual browser.
[11:24] <CaptObvious> from a different server
[11:24] <CaptObvious> well, as far as an actual browser goes, I have lynx I suppose :P
[11:25] <fasta> CaptObvious: you could also get rid of the router in between, btw.
[11:25] <CaptObvious> if the router was the issue, the windows box would be suffering too
[11:25] <fasta> CaptObvious: I know what you said before and still it could be the issue.
[11:25] <fasta> CaptObvious: you only know for 99.8% sure that it's not that.
[11:25] <fasta> CaptObvious: not 100%.
[11:26] <fasta> Statistics made up, as usual.
[11:26] <CaptObvious> lynx is doing 470KB/s
[11:26] <ikonia> CaptObvious: what network card is in your linux machine ?
[11:27] <fasta> ikonia: read the backlog
[11:27] <CaptObvious> broadcom BCM5723
[11:27] <mosno> um, how do i delete a launcher from the gnome classic panel?
[11:27] <CaptObvious> there's a lot of backlog, most of it not relavent
[11:27] <ikonia> CaptObvious: have you considered that the kernel module for the BCM card is just "weak" as it's reverse engineered ?
[11:27] <ikonia> (in comparison to the Windows native driver)
[11:28] <CaptObvious> ikonia - I did think that, but I tried l
[11:28] <CaptObvious> iperf*
[11:28] <CaptObvious> between 2 machines on the lan, it puts 880mbit/s through
[11:28] <ikonia> CaptObvious: so on your lan you get solid performance ?
[11:28] <CaptObvious> it seems so, I don't have samba or anything set up yet, it's a clean install
[11:29] <CaptObvious> just throwing up IIS now so I can try an HTTP transfer
[11:29] <ikonia> CaptObvious: so you only experience a weaker performance with requests out onto the public internet
[11:29] <CaptObvious> it appears so at the moment
[11:29] <D[4]ni> when i try to load the equalizer plugin for rhythmbox, it tells me this: http://pastebin.com/y4BqVQFB
[11:30] <D[4]ni> how to fix that? :<
[11:31] <ikonia> CaptObvious: just thinking, I'll be with you in a moment or two
[11:31] <CaptObvious> yep, LAN HTTP transfer is putting through 21MB/s
[11:31] <CaptObvious> which is slower than I'd like, but I can live with that
[11:32] <ikonia> CaptObvious: curious test, do a traceroute to goolge.com or something like that, is there one hop that is obviously slower/where slow down begins
[11:33] <D[4]ni> meh. "ERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for GConf" seems to be a common error
[11:33] <zallx> how do i add ? ppa:hotzenplotz5/ppa  ?
[11:33] <CaptObvious> does wget save to a temporary location before moving the completed file to the location you specified to the download or does it just write straight to the destination file?
[11:33] <ikonia> CaptObvious: think it writes to $cwd/$name.tmp than commits to $cwd/$name
[11:33] <zallx> CaptObvious: in first execution cycle everything gets writing and send
[11:34] <CaptObvious> right, because I'm saving to /dev/null, so disk speed won't be a factor
[11:34] <zallx> how do i add ? ppa:hotzenplotz5/ppa  ?
[11:34] <ikonia> CaptObvious: try the traceroute test, I'm curious to if there is anything obvious
[11:35] <D[4]ni> zallx, apt-add-repository
[11:35] <CaptObvious> zalbisser - sudo add-apt-repository ppa:hotzenplotz5
[11:35] <CaptObvious> ikonia - nothing unusual on the traceroute
[11:35] <zvacet> zallx: see http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/how-to-add-a-ppa-to-ubuntu
[11:35] <zallx> nothing but the fact they changed utp with modcable ... nomore own router incoming call divertions
[11:36] <zallx> not a key ID: skipping
[11:37] <MaxDeMoN> good morning i'm a beginner in ubuntu and need a simple and easy why to install postfix server i have noip domain :)
[11:37] <zvacet> zallx:  can xou give link of that ppa
[11:37] <zallx> http://blog.mymediasystem.net/avchd/hdtv-with-karmic-koala/
[11:38] <zvacet> zallx:  karmic is not supported any more
[11:38] <zallx> i know im oneiric
[11:38] <zallx> but cant seem to add that what they say in that link
[11:38] <CaptObvious> I've got it up to around about 1MB/s by dropping the txqueuelen to 0
[11:38] <ikonia> CaptObvious: so is performance poor from hop one i na traceroute
[11:39] <CaptObvious> ikonia - nope, all hops are fine
[11:39] <zallx> token ring
[11:39] <ikonia> CaptObvious: ok, so performance in the routing to destination is good, just the actual data transfer is poor, correct
[11:39] <CaptObvious> correct
[11:39] <ikonia> interesting
[11:39] <CaptObvious> it bursts at about 1MB/s, then drops down slowly and hovers at 500kb/s or so
[11:40] <zvacet> zallx: did you tried with adding line in source list replace karmic with oneiric
[11:41] <MaxDeMoN> good morning i'm a beginner in ubuntu and need a simple and easy why to install postfix server i have noip domain :)
[11:41] <mosno> why can't i see gnote or rhythmbox in my GNOME Classic notifcation area?
[11:41] <ikonia> MaxDeMoN: open the package manager, search for postfix, click install
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> are you going to use it locally MaxDeMoN ? installing it easy
[11:41] <shawny78> Anyone here setup an SSH 'VPN' Tunnel?    I can get to the point where I can reach my SSH servers IPs but I can't reach the routers that are connected to it
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> simply apt-get install it, or whatever is comfortable
[11:42] <zallx> k thkx zvacet
[11:42] <MaxDeMoN> SolarisBoy,  locally and i wanna receive email from external providers too :) thanx
[11:42] <zallx> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:hotzenplotz5/ppa
[11:42] <SolarisBoy> shawny78: you mean a tunnel? ssh -L port:<ip>:port user@host
[11:43] <MaxDeMoN> SolarisBoy,  i have a domain name from noip free and i can set MX line on it
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> MaxDeMoN hmm - ISPs generally block port 25 - but ok
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> MaxDeMoN:  ahh ok - so your setup to receive you saying?
[11:43] <shawny78> Solaris: that is it.  only the how-to I was following was saying use ssh -w 0:0 user@host
[11:43] <deejay31> Oh yes, I finished migrating my stuff from centos to ubuntu
[11:43] <dontknow> using ati mobility hd2400 with official ati driver, it gives poor video quality, i mean videos hang, with open source driver i had no problem. i tried every output it just hang out
[11:44] <MaxDeMoN> SolarisBoy,  yes  i wanna receive my email in something like that<EMAIL_ADDRESS>... !
[11:44] <razvan86> hi... does ubuntu have support for digital pens ?
[11:44] <dontknow> do you have suggestions for me?
[11:44] <SolarisBoy> well if they aren't blocking and that IP postfix is running is available to the net directly or via translation
[11:44] <MaxDeMoN> SolarisBoy,  or i must buy a domain?
[11:44] <SolarisBoy> then it should work
[11:44] <SolarisBoy> if you have a domain - you need an MX
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> and that MX should point to your "postfix" if thats what you want handling mail for your domain
[11:45] <MaxDeMoN> SolarisBoy,  yes i have noip domain and i can set MX line
[11:45] <CaptObvious> you could just go the easy route, buy a cheap domain and use google apps :P
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> yea thats way easier
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> heh
[11:45] <MaxDeMoN> you have a link for that ? pls :
[11:45] <CaptObvious> I'm sure you can find google apps through google
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> MaxDeMoN: just register your domain with google apps or if you have one already subscribe to google apps
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> its automagic
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> once its verified the mail works - you just need to create users at your domain
[11:46] <MaxDeMoN> goople apps?
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> shawn78 needs more info on your goal
[11:46] <CaptObvious> then you don't need to run your own mail server or worry about your residential internet connection going down
[11:46] <MaxDeMoN> sorry but i dont understand   think i just need to install postfix and configurate
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> mean while im going to look at the manpage as im not familiar with -w 0:0
[11:46] <D[4]ni> meh. can't find a working equalizer for rhythmbox. one fail to load, one  doesn't even show up in the plugins list
[11:47] <scottj> what is the name of the feature that lets you navigate and run comands in the menus by typing the names of the entries?
[11:47] <shawny78> Here is the link I was following --->   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN
[11:47] <scottj> its some new unity type thing
[11:47] <SolarisBoy> ahh i see - it forwards from a tunnel device to another - shawny78 do you have actually two VPN tunnels?
[11:49] <gwd_> Please help me. I'm using fresh installed 12.04 but, no sound. It shows "dummy output" in sound config.
[11:49] <SolarisBoy> excuse thats incorrect - two seperate machines with a tunnel interface? shawny78
[11:49] <shawny78> The tunnel interface sets up fine.  I can ping both via internal IPs, I just can't reach out past the ssh server
[11:50] <SolarisBoy> ok
[11:51] <shawny78> ... I guess 'both' in this case is the ssh client and ssh server.
[11:51] <SolarisBoy> shawny78: you are using -w 0:0 have you tried any:any ? The devices may be specified by numerical ID or the keyword “any”
[11:51] <MaxDeMoN> SolarisBoy,  google apps is not free  :P me im searching to get it for free :D postfix
[11:51] <gwd_> Someone... help me please. I can't hear sound from 12.04.
[11:51] <SolarisBoy> MaxDeMoN: so your telling me im not using a free subscription right now for www.aaronpsamuel.com?
[11:51] <SolarisBoy> because i am
[11:51] <SolarisBoy> ..
[11:51] <NSAgent> MaxDeMoN: There is a free version
[11:52] <SolarisBoy> they don't make it very obvious - but it's there
[11:52] <dontknow> anyone here using ATI card with closed source river? videos are lagging, not smooth.
[11:52] <dontknow> *driver
[11:52] <SolarisBoy> MaxDeMoN: this has nothing to do with postfix anymore by the way =)
[11:52] <SolarisBoy> so don't scour the search with it
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> gwd_: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[11:52] <usr13> dontknow:  Better stick with OS driver.
[11:53] <MaxDeMoN> SolarisBoy,  maybe i'm a begigner so try to explain me easly LOL :D
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> MaxDeMoN: one second
[11:53] <NSAgent> MaxDeMoN: http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html
[11:53] <NSAgent> Click the free one.
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> grr
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> i was going to use lmgtfy
[11:53] <dontknow> usr13, ati drivers gives better 3d performance
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> haha
[11:53] <usr13> dontknow: than ____________ ?
[11:54] <dontknow> usr13, i am looking for a solution to solve video lagging, thats the only problem that i have
[11:55] <usr13> dontknow: Never mind.  Bottom line, to me, is that Nvidia usually is a better choice, (mostly because the driver issues are a bit less problematic).
[11:55] <usr13> dontknow: What display adapter is it?  Is it on-board?
[11:56] <dontknow> usr13, i know. i cant change laptop gpu. using mobility hd2400
[11:56] <usr13> dontknow: How much ram?
[11:56] <dontknow> usr13, for gpu 128
[11:56] <George_Calaway> Hello, is possible to mount VHD file in Ubuntu as normal HDD (like WIndows 7) ?
[11:57] <usr13> dontknow: How much physical RAM do you have in your system?
[11:57] <dontknow> usr13, 2gb
[11:57] <MaxDeMoN> NSAgent,  thanx ^^ but as i said to SolarisBoy  i'm a begigner and really i dont understand what are you talkinf forr :D i wanna just try to install a postfix server to try send and reception emails  by using my domain xxx.noip.org :D
[11:57] <usr13> dontknow:  What Desktop Enviornment are you using?
[11:57] <CaptObvious> new information regarding my download issue
[11:57] <dontknow> usr13, cinnamon
[11:57] <CaptObvious> I'm filing it under /dontcare
[11:57] <NSAgent> MaxDeMoN: Have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix ?
[11:57] <CaptObvious> sabnzbd is maxing out my connection which is all I was worried about, so happy for now
[11:58] <dontknow> usr13, but it doesn2t matter when using unity
[11:58] <D[4]ni> George_Calaway, http://bit.ly/JtXmat
[11:58] <dontknow> usr13, it also happens in unity
[11:58] <MaxDeMoN> NSAgent,  no but i will  now :D thanx ^^
[11:58] <usr13> dontknow: You might see how it works with xfce
[11:58] <IdleOne> !lmgtfy | D[4]ni
[11:59] <dontknow> usr13, i believe it wouldn't matter
[11:59] <gwd_> ActionParsnip: This is my output >> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=0d671aa52bc3d2d646265aefffbdf467f6274461
[11:59] <usr13> dontknow: You may be right.
[11:59] <killer> i get this message too much "internal error occured".....may be pangolin is not yet stable enough
[11:59] <D[4]ni> IdleOne, doesn't that help "newer users" to start googling things?
[12:00] <usr13> dontknow: What CPU is it?
[12:00] <zallx> precise ?
[12:00] <IdleOne> D[4]ni: no, lmgtfy links are rude and insulting, if you want to provide a link give a direct link to the solution.
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> gwd_: if you run: alsamixer    are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[12:00] <D[4]ni> that's your opinion.
[12:00] <LjL> D[4]ni: and it's the opinion of a channel op, so please respect it
[12:00] <dontknow> usr13, amd turionx2 using 64 bit ubuntu
[12:01] <D[4]ni> who should know he's an op when he doesn't have the @?
[12:01] <D[4]ni> and just started coming to this channel?
[12:01] <IdleOne> D[4]ni: assume we are all ops
[12:01] <gwd_> ActionParsnip: Not all. Master, Master M and PCM can ... others no.
[12:01] <dontknow> usr13, but videos were lagging in 32 bit too
[12:01] <LjL> D[4]ni: you know it's not just his opinion when an ubottu factoid is given to you, for starters.
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> gwd_: my sound troubleshooting sucks, that link is handy though
[12:02] <dontknow> usr13, i will try with vlc player now
[12:02] <usr13> dontknow: Wish I had some advise for you, but I really can't think of anything ATM.  Maybe someone else here will have something for you.  I have to go now.
[12:02] <dontknow> usr13, ok
[12:02] <usr13> dontknow: Good luck.  (And maybe someone else is following this thread and will have an idea...)
[12:02] <gwd_> Anyway, thanks for helping me, ActionParsnip .
[12:05] <zallx> i follow u
[12:06] <gwd_> ActionParsnip: I found "Dummy Output" in my sound settings. What's that?
[12:06] <atlee> ubuntu having a lot of server issues?
[12:08] <mosno> guys, i have a broken notification area in gnome classic. xchat shows fine, but gnote's icon is like a 1px wide slit. rhythmbox isn't to be seen. i can add another instance of notification area applet to no avail. rebooting doesn't work either. any ideas?
[12:08] <mosno> 12.04 LTS i386
[12:08] <atlee> mosno try booting into another DE
[12:08] <mosno> atlee, it works in GNOME Shel
[12:09] <mosno> Unity doesn't even load anymore not sure what's up with it
[12:09] <atlee> have you tryed MATE desktop?
[12:09] <mosno> atlee, that's a sweet idea, i completely forgot about that
[12:09] <atlee> their is a terminal command to reset unity panels
[12:09] <auronandace> there
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> mosno: tried Unity2D session
[12:09] <mosno> i actually don't mind gnome classic, except for this one stupid issue
[12:10] <mosno> ActionParsnip, that has it's own problems
[12:10] <atlee> goto terminal for a sec
[12:10] <mosno> yep
[12:10] <mosno> atlee, i'm not in unity i'm in gnome classic
[12:10] <zallx> its has problems installing ... it has problems compiling
[12:10] <atlee> then login as root
[12:10] <mosno> atlee, yep
[12:10] <atlee> well use this for when you login to unity
[12:10] <atlee> unity --reset
[12:10] <atlee> unity --reset-icons
[12:11] <gwd_> Someone please help me fix no sound problem on 12.04.
[12:11] <mosno> atlee, ok. but any idea about my gnome classic notification area?
[12:11] <gwd_> This is my alsa output >> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=0d671aa52bc3d2d646265aefffbdf467f6274461
[12:11] <atlee> if compiz is the cause then
[12:11] <atlee> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[12:11] <atlee> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compizconfig-1
[12:11] <auronandace> gwd_: screenshot of alsamixer
[12:11] <mosno> atlee, i'm not using compiz
[12:11] <atlee> then do unity --reset
[12:11] <mosno> atlee, gnome classic, no effects
[12:12] <atlee> go get MATE as it's a really superb gnome 2 replacement :D
[12:12] <mosno> atlee, maybe if i can't fix this one issue
[12:13] <mosno> atlee, i try and avoid 3rd party repos if i can
[12:13] <atlee> gwd goto your settings and switch to another audio hardware device
[12:13] <atlee> mosno extra repos are awsome
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> mosno: its not supoprted here, I suggest you advise XFCE
[12:13] <auronandace> atlee: and unsupported
[12:14] <mosno> atlee, non-broken software is even better
[12:14] <atlee> as long as you know what the package you are installing does and how to safely remove it if needed
[12:14] <mosno> i might see if all users are affected, one second
[12:14] <gwd_> auronandace: Here is my alsamixer screenshot >> http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/2510/screenshotfrom201205202.png
[12:15] <atlee> mosmo try changing themes to see if icons change and refresh
[12:15] <mosno> ps. audio is hillarious... i do Switch User and sound stops, then i login on tty1 and it starts again
[12:15] <mosno> ie. text login
[12:16] <auronandace> gwd_: a few things are muted there, not sure if they affect what you are trying to do
[12:16] <atlee> sound and graphics, wireless are all very hardware-to-hardware basis on if it works or if it doesn't and it also comes down to if the hardware is built into the kernel or not
[12:17] <gwd_> auronandace: How can I unmute them?
[12:17] <auronandace> gwd_: select them and press m
[12:17] <auronandace> gwd_: see the MM? that means muted
[12:18] <gwd_> Yes auronandace .. But, when I press M on them .. it just changed to "00" and can't go up the level.
[12:19] <TangoGold> http://www.sexy-natalie.com/?uid=69367 your welcome lol
[12:19] <auronandace> gwd_: when they change to 00 that means they are active
[12:20] <gwd_> How can I change the level when they are active, auronandace ... I can't press up arrow to change the level.
[12:20] <auronandace> gwd_: does the bar go up or down?
[12:21] <gwd_> auronandace: I can't up the bar.
[12:21] <gwd_> There is no bar on them at all. Just change to "00", auronandace
[12:22] <auronandace> gwd_: some of them have bars, some of them don't need bars
[12:23] <gwd_> okay .. I have activated all of them (changed them "00") ... but, still no sound, auronandace .
[12:24] <auronandace> gwd_: not sure what to suggest sorry
[12:25] <gwd_> auronandace: You might want to see my sound settings "Dummy Output" .. >> http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5638/screenshotfrom201205202g.png
[12:25] <gwd_> I think I should see a sound card name.
[12:26] <auronandace> gwd_: hmm, odd, sorry i can't help further
[12:26] <gwd_> ok ... thanks for helping me.
[12:27] <shawny78> Can anyone suggest a softphone for Ubuntu that will run the H.323 protocol?
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> !info ekiga
[12:30] <shawny78> Well, there we go.  Thank you Dr!
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> softare center may show others
[12:36] <g0th> hi
[12:36] <eXtense> hi, maybe you can help me. Since about a month I get some errors while checking for updates. You can see the message here: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/408412/ maybe you could help me fixing this issue?
[12:37] <g0th> when I try to upgrade ubuntu to 12.04 it doesn't do anything
[12:37] <g0th> it is downloading 2 files but doesn't proceed with the upgrade
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> !natty | eXtense
[12:37] <samba35> ok so i am not only one who face this problem
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> id say switch servers.. natty is not eol yet i think
[12:38] <g0th> This usually is caused by a system where /tmp is mounted noexec. Please remount without noexec and run the upgrade again.
[12:38] <g0th> why is exec needed for tmp?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> to run the executable  update tools...
[12:38] <g0th> for me noexec seems to make sense
[12:38] <g0th> on /tmp
[12:38] <g0th> anyway, I never changed it
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> see wht mount command says about it.
[12:39] <g0th> why would you want to execute anything from /tmp?
[12:39] <eXtense> i already wondered about the "natty" in the link. but I don't know why these servers are in my repositorys? i added nothing and they seem to be unreachable since over one month. how can i delete them?
[12:39] <CaptObvious> they really need to add parallel fetching of packages to apt
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> the installer update tool downloads the updated executables to tmp and runs them from there.. is how i would guess its working
[12:39] <g0th> ok
[12:39] <g0th> how do I remount without noexec?
[12:40] <Colonel-Rosa> This has probably been said, but the release.ubuntu domain is very slow over in England
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> check your fstab entry for tmp  and see what options its using
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> most people dont use a seperate /tmp
[12:40] <g0th> ok I did mount -o remount exec /tmp
[12:40] <g0th> was that ok?
[12:40] <Colonel-Rosa> 40KiB/s
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> check mount command and see how its mounted then
[12:40] <CaptObvious> Dr_Willis - I use tempfs for /tmp
[12:40] <futurist> #arduino
[12:41] <g0th> I use tmpfs
[12:41] <g0th> well not me but the installer
[12:41] <g0th> I never touched any of those settings
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> disable the use of tmpfs then perhaps.
[12:41] <SilverStar_> Is possible to attach the VHD file in Ubuntu as normal HDD (like windows 7) ??
[12:41] <g0th> I just removed the noexec from fstab
[12:41] <g0th> and to get it running now (without reboot) I did mount -o remount exec /tmp
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> SilverStar_:  i think theres vhd to raw converteres.
[12:41] <CaptObvious> SilverStar_ - for the millionth time, it's the first hit on google if you google "mount vhd ubuntu"
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> !info vdfuse
[12:43] <SilverStar_> CaptObvious -> I search it, but  I only found info about Virtualbox etc.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> !find vdfuse
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> vhd can work with vdfuse or so i just read.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> from man vdfuse -->  -t     specify type (VDI, VMDK, VHD, or raw; default: auto)
[12:44] <SilverStar_> O,, thanks :)
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/vdfuse.1.html
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> You can use vmware-mount provided by VMWare Server.
[12:52] <csioktel> Hi, i'm new to ufw, i want to know where is the ufw save rules path?
[12:53] <csioktel> is it ufw will automatic save the rules for next boot?
[12:54] <pavel_> #Ubuntu-cz
[13:00] <sa7elak> Hello, how to to know how long the system have been running ???
[13:00] <iceroot> sa7elak: uptime
 thanks
[13:11] <_16aR_> Hello
[13:11] <_16aR_> Is it possible to change the hash algorithm of an already existing pgp / gpg key ?
[13:11] <_16aR_> Mine is actually SHA1, and I want to use SHA2 instead without regenerating a new key
[13:12] <CJKay> Has anyone had any luck getting Sun Java 6 (not 7) installed on Precise 12.04?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> CJKay:  ive heard it works.. but never really tried.
[13:13] <CJKay> Heard it works? Where have these people even got it from? D:
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> I thoght the !java factoid said
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> lets see..
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> !java
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> Install the openjdk-6-jre package using any installation method.
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> https://github.com/flexiondotorg/oab-java6
[13:14] <CJKay> I need specifically Sun's Java 6 implementation
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> No idea then.  wget http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/6u31-b04/jre-6u31-linux-i586.bin
[13:14] <CJKay> Oracle Java 7 doesn't allow me to use anything other than software rendering and OpenJDK 6 just crashes
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> is all i know on the topic.
[13:14] <dontknow> anyone using chromium here?
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> thats java 6
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> oracle java 6 jre 32-bit
[13:15] <dontknow> no one use chromium?
[13:15] <dontknow> lol
[13:15] <CJKay> Dr_Willis: Link is broken
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use chromoim or google chrome
[13:16] <CJKay> Which is kinda my problem. Everything has been taken down
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> CJKay:  all i know is on that wiki page. ;) so cant help much more
[13:16] <CJKay> Alright, thanks
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> check askubuntu.com perhaps someone has an old version somewhere
[13:16] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, are you using or not?
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> browser window says chromium on this box.
[13:17] <iceroot> !anyone | dontknow
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> other boxs are using googles chrome. ;)
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: chromium is all I use
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ever noticed any differance in the 2
[13:17] <tomodo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Calculator
[13:17] <tomodo> where can I get the source code for this program?
[13:17] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, is it still 18, because 19 released and still no update?
[13:18] <iceroot> !info calculator
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> !find calculator
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> tomodo: apt-get source gcalc
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: could report a bug, is there no deb file around
[13:18] <tomodo> i want the source coed
[13:18] <iceroot> tomodo: if you know the packagename use "apt-get source packagename" to get the source-package
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> !find gnome-calculator
[13:18] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, you have 18 either?
[13:19] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, or is it just me
[13:19] <tomodo> thanks very much
[13:20] <dontknow> gtmanfred, what are you doing here :D
[13:21] <Adriannom> hi.  just installed xubuntu 12.04 and after i suspend, the screen is very dark, even at the prompt to log back in.  changing brightness has some effect, but even full brightness is very dark.  the mouse pointer is the only thing that is at full brightness.  any ideas what could be going on?
[13:21] <evilgeenius> After a fresh install of Ubuntu 12 I have tried to install "apt-get install linux-headers-3.2.0-23-generic" , but it gives me the error "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-23-generic (x86_64)".   Does anyone know what the issue is?  I need to install this so I can run VirtualBox.
[13:22] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, could you check your chromium's version number
[13:22] <iceroot> evilgeenius: use the metapackage instead
[13:22] <tomodo> I installed the source with apt, but where is it?
[13:22] <iceroot> evilgeenius: linux-headers-generic if i am correct
[13:22] <tomodo> oh I found it
[13:22] <iceroot> tomodo: in the dir where you called the command
[13:22] <tomodo> great
[13:22] <notze> i always get problems running apt-get
[13:22] <notze> whats wrong
[13:23] <notze> its a plain ubuntu server
[13:23] <notze> Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[13:23] <notze> either that
[13:23] <notze> or a lot other problem
[13:23] <yeats> notze: details?
[13:23] <notze> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/v/vlan/vlan_1.9-3ubuntu6_amd64.deb  Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:http:
[13:23] <notze> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[13:23] <digitalj> Try another mirror
[13:23] <iceroot> notze: Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> us.archive.* has been slow the last few days.  not tried it today
[13:23] <yeats> notze: "Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com" is your key line
[13:24] <iceroot> notze: what is the question? the error is very clear
[13:24] <digitalj> I was having problems with us.archive.ubuntu.com yesterday
[13:24] <digitalj> Some other people were seeing rediculous latency as well, like only 20KB/s
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> yep. been that way for like 3 days
[13:26] <D[4]ni> does anyone know how to fix this error in rhythmbox trying to load the 10-band equalizer plugin? http://pastebin.com/y4BqVQFB
[13:28] <evilgeenius> iceroot: Ok I installed the linux-headers-generic, but now virtualbox gives me the error : "Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.2.0-23-generic cannot be found.".  If I install those specified headers then i get an error.
[13:28] <ngomes> D[4]ni, do you have python-gconf installed ?
[13:28] <evilgeenius> iceroot: Also, the kernel-devel package is not available to install.  Is that correct?
[13:29] <iceroot> evilgeenius: what is the output of "dpkg -l linux-headers-3.2.0-23-generic"
[13:29] <D[4]ni> ngomes, yes i do
[13:29] <iceroot> !info linux-headers-generic
[13:29] <dontknow> could someone check what version chromium installed on your ubuntu if you haven't added another repo
[13:29] <notze> iceroot
[13:30] <notze> yes ists clear but what is this
[13:30] <iceroot> evilgeenius: as you see its <IP_ADDRESS> and not .23
[13:30] <notze> sometimes is there and 5mins later not?
[13:30] <notze> this HAS to work
[13:30] <notze> i also have this problem with german servers of ubuntu
[13:30] <notze> and adn
[13:30] <iceroot> evilgeenius: you are on 12.04
[13:30] <evilgeenius> iceroot: This is the output : un  linux-headers-3.2.0-23-g
[13:30] <ngomes> D[4]ni, i suggest you go ask in #python room then , maybe then can explain better
[13:30] <compdoc> dontknow, my version is 18.0.1025.168
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> !info chromium
[13:30] <iceroot> notze: can you ping google.de from the cli? ping -c 4 google.com
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> !info chromium-browser
[13:31] <xtu> hi, how to use rss in ubuntu?
[13:31] <iceroot> evilgeenius: 12.04 is using 3.2.0-24-generic and not 23
[13:31] <iceroot> !info linux-headers-generic | evilgeenius
[13:31] <xtu> i mean i want to listen the voa english .
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> xtu:  whith rss reader apps is one way.  I just use google-reader's web site.
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> rmss?
[13:31] <dontknow> compdoc, i still have 18.0.1025.151 and didn't get update ???
[13:31] <xtu> no, i don't know what is rmss?
[13:32] <duobix> Hi, will there by official support for nvidia optimus?
[13:32] <xtu> Dr_Willis, you mean you can get the english podcast in google-reader?
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> rss = a news feed. rmms is a audio/video stream - i think. i may be backwards
[13:32] <evilgeenius> iceroot: ok.  So you you have any idea why virtualbox is looking for <IP_ADDRESS>?  "Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.2.0-23-generic cannot be found."
[13:32] <compdoc> dontknow, I installed from the google website
[13:32] <iceroot> evilgeenius: vbox from the repos?
[13:32] <dontknow> compdoc, so you should have had 19
[13:32] <xtu> ok, I will try the google-reader
[13:32] <notze> iceroot yes
[13:32] <notze> it works all perfect
[13:32] <dontknow> compdoc, 19 released
[13:33] <notze> only the apt stuff is problemtic
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> http://www.voanews.com/wm/live/newsnow.asx
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> works in totem
[13:33] <evilgeenius> iceroot: no from their website.  I need to be using a  slightly older version or virtualbox, 4.1.4, and not the most recent, 4.1.14.
[13:34] <xtu> oh,  so I can add that link to totem.
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> xtu:  i imagine most any of the media players can handle it.
[13:34] <compdoc> dontknow, I installed it a short while back, so thats why
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> xtu:  i just went to the voanews.com site and clicked on the link and it opened in totem. i saw the url and pasted it here.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: all I've found is 'add the chrome ppa and install chrome-unstable' which isn't the same thing
[13:34] <duobix> Hi, is there any way I can simply install rpm packages, without opening terminal?
[13:35] <iceroot> evilgeenius: then i guess that is out of support here
[13:35] <crazypete> does anyone know of a texteditor that I can run in a terminal that has shift-arrows to select and ctrl-c/v/x?
[13:35] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, i didn't add any extra repo, i installed chromium using software center. so this means i will get no update anymore?
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> dontknow:  ubuntu only does security updates to their official repos
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> rarely version # updates
[13:35] <iceroot> evilgeenius: if i am correct there is something like /etc/init.d/vbox-setup
[13:35] <iceroot> evilgeenius: maybe that can help
[13:36] <evilgeenius> iceroot: yes, that is where I see the error message
[13:36] <iceroot> evilgeenius: ah ok
[13:36] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, it is not including chromium?
[13:36] <xtu> oh, and Dr_Willis , I am not a America, and I want to improve my english, so I want to listen the VOA podcast or rss thing. but I don't know what to do?
[13:36] <e_t_> duobix: RPM packages are for Red Hat and similar systems, not for Debian-derivatives like Ubuntu. You might have some luck using 'alien' but it's not guaranteed.
[13:36] <evilgeenius> iceroot:  Virtualbox must be getting <IP_ADDRESS> from somewhere.
[13:36] <iceroot> evilgeenius: are you bootet in the .23 kernel maybe? but have the headers installed for .24?
[13:36] <iceroot> evilgeenius: maybe that script is parsing the output of uname
[13:37] <duobix> e_t_ thank you.
[13:37] <compdoc> dontknow, I cannot see an option to update chrome
[13:37] <evilgeenius> iceroot: yes, uname shows 3.2.0-23-generic
[13:37] <iceroot> evilgeenius: install the .24 kernel, reboot the system
[13:37] <duobix> Anyway, I'd love to see a non-terminal installer for tar.gz files
[13:37] <iceroot> evilgeenius: then the metapackage .24 is matching again to uname
[13:37] <iceroot> !info linux-image-generic
[13:38] <crazypete> what do I google for to find editors that run in terminal? what is the common name for non-graphical text editors?
[13:38] <iceroot> evilgeenius: you see, there is a newer kernel for 12.04 and because the script is parsing uname you get that error
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> dontknow:  security updates only. are the normal way of ubuntu doing updates to ANYTHING in their repos. ubuntu is not a 'rolling' release
[13:38] <duobix> That's killing the whole experiance in any linux system
[13:38] <evilgeenius> iceroot: thanks! I'll I;ll try it.
[13:38] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, if i install google chrome through their website, it will take updates ?
[13:38] <iceroot> crazypete: vim, emacs, nano, joe
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> dontknow:  if google updates it.. yes.
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> dontknow:  if goodle dosent.. then no.
[13:38] <Muelli> crazypete: I'd do: apt-cache search editor
[13:38] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, ok thanks
[13:39] <iceroot> crazypete: command line editor for example
[13:39] <chu> crazypete: You're basically limited to the ones iceroot mentioned.
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> crazypete:  go learn vi. :) its worth learning
[13:39] <iceroot> crazypete: yes, use vim (not vi) its a real good editor
[13:39] <crazypete> iceroot, those are line-editors. I want proper text-editor for cli. Somebody must have written something like gedit for cli, if only as a proof of concept.
[13:39] <iceroot> crazypete: i told you 4
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> crazypete:  thers dozens of text editors for the cli.
[13:40] <angel282> Hello, Can someone recommend me on good server management panel such cpanel etc.. ?(which easy to install)?
[13:40] <iceroot> crazypete: vim is like gedit but much much much much more powerfull
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> crazypete:  on a 'rescue' system  - often you will be stuck with vi and nano. so those 2 are wrorth learning.
[13:40] <iceroot> crazypete: sudo apt-get install vim, then use the command "vimtutor"
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> fte is a very impressive text editor for the console also. but its not commonly used.
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> !info fte
[13:41] <crazypete> Dr_Willis, how do a search for these dozens of such editors. what is the common name for them?
[13:41] <iceroot> crazypete: i told you that too
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> crazypete:  apt-get basics... 'apt-cache search PATTERNNAME'
[13:41] <iceroot> crazypete: command line editor
[13:42] <iceroot> crazypete: but trust me if you want a real editor on the shell with some advanced features there are only vim and emacs
[13:42] <Volkan-K> hi
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> crazypete: nano for me :)
[13:43] <crazypete> I search for command line editors and I find those mentioned here.   None of the flashy stuff, just a straight editor
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> try fte - you may like it,
[13:44] <angel282> Can someone recommend me on a free good server/system administration panel? someone told me webmin is good? any recommendations?
[13:44] <iceroot> angel282: ssh
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> angel282:  for get you ever heard about webmin
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> !ebox
[13:44] <iceroot> !webmin | angel282
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> don't use webmin
[13:45] <angel282> ActionParsnip: ok, so which admin panel you are recommend to use?
[13:45] <Volkan-K> thats becaus Debian sux
[13:45] <Volkan-K> use CentOS
[13:45] <iceroot> Volkan-K: stop it
[13:46] <Volkan-K> why would i stop. thats the truth
[13:46] <iceroot> Volkan-K: its offtopic here
[13:46] <iceroot> Volkan-K: this is not #debian and not #centos
[13:47] <compdoc> has anyone heard news about why the ubuntu mirrors are so slow?
[13:47] <iceroot> Volkan-K: and if the user is not able to admin a system with the normal tools and need a webgui for it i am not sure if the os is the reason for sucking
[13:47] <compdoc> cant upgrade my server
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> compdoc:  not seen any news on it..
[13:47] <gccster> guys i have ubuntu 12.04 on intel i5 laptop hibernate/suspend not working what can i do?
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> compdoc:  been show for 4 days here
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> slow
[13:47] <compdoc> sounds the same for me
[13:48] <angel282> ActionParsnip: so which admin panel can be used instead of webmin?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> !ebox | angel282  said this earlier
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> 'best' is to learn to use ssh.  Is there any database for ubuntu users on getting the right nvidia drivers installed?
[13:53] <chabicobi> my USB 3G CDMA not working in edubuntu 12.04 who  can help me?
[13:53] <ikonia> sirriffsalot: the hardware drivers tool should offer the most compatible version for you
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> sirriffsalot:  i thought nvidia-current sort of scanned and installed what it thought was needed.
[13:53] <sirriffsalot> I've had some uncomfortable experience in 11.10 doing that though...
[13:53] <enbez> Does anyone know of a free server that allows you to run programs on it?
[13:54] <ikonia> sirriffsalot: your card may not actually have good support
[13:54] <sirriffsalot> I couldn't login after installing an nvidia driver...
[13:54] <ikonia> enbez: please don't ask in here - this is ubuntu support
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> sirriffsalot:  detailas as to what happens exactly is more helpfull
[13:54] <enbez> ok, sorry. Do you know a channel where i can ask?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> angel282: I suggest you learn to manage the system with CLI, your skills will be transferrable to other distros and the system will be more secure.
[13:54] <votproductions> Wait what?
[13:54] <sirriffsalot> Well, it was a dream studio distribution, so could have been that. Now I'm on a straight Ubuntu 12.04
[13:54] <sirriffsalot> How do I check what nvidia cards I have?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: sudo lshw -C display
[13:55] <amaurea> Hi! My repositories contain the package libportaudio2, but not a corresponding -dev package. Isn't there usually a -dev version for every package?
[13:55] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: what should I be looking for??
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: the product line(s)
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> says 'vga'  on a line sirriffsalot
[13:56] <chabicobi> La nouvelle version de ubuntu ma clé  internet n'est pas détecté aidez moi
[13:56] <sirriffsalot> Oddly enough I have two *display lines... haha
[13:56] <sirriffsalot> product: G98 [GeForce G 100] and product: G98 [GeForce G 100]
[13:56] <sirriffsalot> How do I check which one is being used? Haha
[13:56] <Thiagovfar> On Ubuntu, ~/bin is automatically added to the PATH variable. Question is: Where is that? I've looked into .bashrc, /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/profile. Couldn't find it.
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: nvidia-settings has a button to identify displays
[13:56] <Muelli> !fr | chabicobi
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Thiagovfar: /etc/environment  maybe..
[13:57] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: alright, installing that
[13:57] <sirriffsalot> By the way, is there some software/command that removes repositories that I no longer use?
[13:57] <sirriffsalot> That has no software installed requiring them
[13:58] <Thiagovfar> ActionParsnip: Nope.
[13:58] <magic_al> i have a picture on the top of my website. this picture is supposed to change depending on the content. more in detail the content is organized within a hierarchical menu. the top level of this menu consists of 6 links. for every of those 6 links i have a certain picture. how can i get the highest link parent of a content-typ in order to fit the picture according to that?
[13:58] <sirriffsalot> Hmm "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver."
[13:58] <Thiagovfar> ActionParsnip: What bugs me is that it seems to be default behaviour for ubuntu, yet I can't find it.
[13:58] <mneptok> Thiagovfar: ~/.profile ?
[13:58] <chabicobi> Mon USB 3G 1x CDMA ne marche pas avec Ubuntu 12.04
[13:59] <mneptok> chabicobi: Angaloseulement en cette canale, SVP
[13:59] <mneptok> chabicobi: "Anglais seulement"
[13:59] <sirriffsalot> "Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[13:59] <sirriffsalot> How do I restart the X server?
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> $ grep PATH .*
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> shows it in .profile   ;)
[14:00] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: ALT+PrntScrn+K
[14:00] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: Thanks:) Hang on
[14:00] <monohedron> hi I install 12.04 lts 64bit plus gnome. in gnome classic every window I open ends up partially hidden by the upper panel. can someone let me now how to prevent that?
[14:00] <Thiagovfar> mneptok: yep, found it on ~/.profile
[14:00]  * Dr_Willis cant imagine why that default behaivor would be annoying.
[14:01] <angel282> ActionParsnip: Zentyal is seems hard to install any alternative admin panel which more easy to install?
[14:01] <chabicobi> my internet key  USB 3G 1x CDMA not working in  Ubuntu 12.04
[14:01] <sirriffsalot> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[14:01] <Muelli> chabicobi: how do you know it's not working?
[14:01] <Thiagovfar> Dr_Willis: It's not annoying. I just want to copy it over on Gentoo =)
[14:01] <mneptok> Thiagovfar: .profile is not shell specific. so if you switch to zsh or tcsh, /bin will stll be in the $PATH
[14:02] <chabicobi> I think it is not detect
[14:02] <Thiagovfar> mneptok: good to know
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> sirriffsalot:  the x gui to nvidia is 'nvidia-settings'
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> angel282: what do you need the admin panel to achieve?
[14:03] <sirriffsalot> Dr_Willis: Yes, I get it open, but tells me  "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. "
[14:03] <mneptok> chabicobi: pastebin the outout of "sudo lsusb -vv"
[14:03] <angel282> ActionParsnip: to manage the domains (adding new domains to the server), ftp accounts and bandwidth control
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> sirriffsalot:  so... you are not using the nvidia drivers.
[14:03] <sirriffsalot> Dr_Willis:  "Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig      then
[14:03] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: I did
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> nvidia-xconfig is a cli tool to tweak the xorg.conf
[14:03] <sirriffsalot> Then it tells me there is no such command
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> ive rarely needed to run nvidia-xconfig
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> $ which nvidia-xconfig
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> /usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> !find nvidia-xconfig
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> !info cpanel
[14:04] <sirriffsalot> No such file or directory... lol
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> its part of the nvidia drivers.. how did you install your nvidia drivers  sirriffsalot ?
[14:05] <sirriffsalot> In my system settings details it says I have this driver: Gallium 0.4 on NV98
[14:05] <sirriffsalot> Dr_Willis: Well, I haven't... as I asked in the beginning, I wondered if there is a sound database webpage for getting the right driver installed
[14:05] <sirriffsalot> But I suppose this is an even more effective database!
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> Driver: GeForce GT 530/PCIe/SSE2
[14:06] <sirriffsalot> Dr_Willis: ?
[14:06] <D[4]ni> also, is there a way to change the order of the window buttons in the maximized state?
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> all i did on this box was 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current' and then rebooted
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> angel282: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_hosting_control_panels
[14:06] <sirriffsalot> Dr_Willis: Hmm, well I guess I'll try that:) Brb
[14:07] <D[4]ni> i don't like close-minimize-maximize, i'd rather have close-maximize-minimize
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> sirriffsalot:  thats all ive ever needed to do for like all 10 of my nvidia machines.. ;)
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> D[4]ni:  at one time Ubuntu-tweak let you reorder them
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> D[4]ni: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:07] <D[4]ni> i'm on precise
[14:08] <chabicobi> and me i am in edubuntu precise
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> D[4]ni: do you still want them on the left?
[14:08] <chabicobi> sorry help me
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> chabicobi:  and the problem is
[14:09] <D[4]ni> i know it's possible for the normal state with gconf-editor, but there doesn't seem to be a setting for the maximized state
[14:09] <D[4]ni> for maximized windows, they should be on the left, yes
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> the title/controls get hidden when maxamized. so it would be settings in the panel thing i belive. cant say ive ever noticed them getting reordered. let me see if ubuntu-tweak does it
[14:10] <Muelli> !details | chabicobi
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> D[4]ni: i guess its a global menu thing, the maximized apps controls go into that
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Ubuntu-tweak no longer has to settings to reorder the buttons. just left or right.
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> i used to do Min Max <big space> Close    all the time
[14:12] <chabicobi> Thank you i want to install my key USB 3G CDMA in ubuntu 120.4 , the not dectecting that
[14:12] <D[4]ni> and where do i find the settings for that?
[14:12] <monohedron> on 12.04 lts 64bit plus gnome. in gnome classic sessions every window I open ends up partially hidden by the upper panel. can someone let me now how to prevent that?
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> D[4]ni:  from whative googled. you cant reorder them in the top panel. but you can in the window title
[14:14] <notze> no i changed the server
[14:14] <notze> all the time
[14:14] <notze> the same shit
[14:14] <notze> hon-qpid_0.12-2_all.deb  Unable to connect to archive.ubuntu.com:http:
[14:14] <FloodBot1> notze: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:14] <notze> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-webob/python-webob_1.1.1-1_all.deb  Unable to connect to archive.ubuntu.com:http:
[14:14] <notze> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/socat/socat_<IP_ADDRESS>-1.2_amd64.deb  Unable to connect to archive.ubuntu.com:http:
[14:14] <ikonia> notze: can you please a.) tone down the language b.) not flood the channel
[14:14] <D[4]ni> Dr_Willis, i already changed it in the titlebar
[14:15] <notze> thanx for info the bot told me already
[14:15] <iceroot> notze: öh
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> D[4]ni:  I did see some indicator-applet mentioned that  did the same feature. it may have been more changeable. check the webupd8 postings - it was either this week or last week i saw it mentioned
[14:15] <notze> i i never had this problem with debian
[14:15] <iceroot> notze: why is the error archive.ubuntu.com:http
[14:15] <iceroot> notze: and not http://archive.ubuntu.com
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/window-buttons-extension-available-for.html
[14:16] <iceroot> notze: please paste the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[14:16] <iceroot> !paste | notze
[14:16] <notze> ok ;D
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> notze: try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/997438/
[14:16] <sa7elak> Hello, how to move an application window to another workspace ??? and how to switch between work spaces using keyboard ??
[14:17] <iceroot> sa7elak: ctrl + alt + left/right cursor-key to switch (if i am correct)
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> sa7elak: ctrl+alt+left / right cursor to switch workspace
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> sa7elak:  in unity on 12.04 press and hold the SUPER(windows) key and it shows a shortcut guide
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> sa7elak: you can right click the window decorator and send it to a workspace that way
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> it says shift-alt-ctrl-arrows to move to otehr work spaces
[14:18] <chabicobi> #ubuntu-fr
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> The Super Key is SUper!
[14:18] <iceroot> notze: i bet you just messed up your /etc/apt/sources.list :) so its your fault and not the fault of ubuntu and the complete flame from you was not needed :)
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: thanks for asking :)
[14:20] <stars69> hi, what is the cmd to format drive under ssh screen?
[14:20] <sa7elak> Thanks for you all
[14:20] <Ashkot> Hello everybody  ^_^
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> stars69: mk2fs   you will format the partition too, not the drive
[14:20] <michaelvd> Yello, is it possible to find a bluetooth server for multiple communication(voice/soud)?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> stars69: the partition will need to be unmounted to be formatted
[14:21] <stars69> ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:21] <paopao> I installed nvidia on opensuse, then I realized that ubuntu is really easy to use, and it's so convenient
[14:22] <compdoc> ubuntu is nice
[14:22] <gccster> guys why every time i boot my laptop and login ubuntu the wireless adapter is disabled and i have to press the keyboard enable button?
[14:22] <airbender> so nice
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> paopao: some distros come with the driver pre-added :)
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> gccster: if you login and run:  sudo rfkill unblock all     does it unlock it?
[14:23] <maddinw> Hello everyone.
[14:23] <sirriffsalot> Dr_Willis: Still no change with the nvidia-settings installed..
[14:24] <maddinw> I was redirected from another channel to here  and I hope that you could help me with a question I have.
[14:24] <gccster> ActionParsnip, should i restart and check out?
[14:24] <paopao> ActionParsnip, you are right
[14:24] <sirriffsalot> Dr_Willis: When I run it now it still tells me "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver."
[14:25] <gccster> ActionParsnip, i dont know if i am clear the wireless adapter is disabled and it needs a keyboard button to get enabled every time i reboot
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> gccster: if the command works, we can make it happen automagically
[14:25] <Ashkot> what is the main differences between the ubuntu and kubuntu?
[14:25] <gccster> ActionParsnip, ok let me try then
[14:26] <maddinw> But if you are busy right now thats ok I guess.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Ashkot: default desktop, window manager and default apps. The rest is the same
[14:27] <Hotwired> wtf is meeboo and why is my ubuntu live disk showing me meeboo ads in the corner of my screen :S
[14:27] <L3top> sirriffsalot: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[14:27] <rufensis> maddinw what is your question?
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> sounds like somthign the browser is doing Hotwired
[14:27] <luser> hi all. what's the difference in "lspci -k" output between "Kernel driver in use" and "Kernel modules"? i have different output between two different installations...
[14:27] <sirriffsalot> L3top: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G98 [GeForce G 100] [10de:06e6] (rev a1)  and 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] [10de:084b] (rev a2)
[14:27] <luser> these are both output: http://pastebin.com/LhrXyvgC
[14:28] <luser> in the second case "Kernel modules" is missing although i can see the module with lsmod
[14:28] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I get those two lines as output..
[14:28] <dontknow> chrome stable 64 bit doesn't have internal flash player?
[14:28] <Hotwired> Dr_Willis: evil!
[14:28] <maddinw> rufensis: I have a few questions about ssh-tunneling and ssh agents.
[14:28] <L3top> sirriffsalot: are you trying to use both your onboard and the card?
[14:28] <sirriffsalot> L3top: No idea... not intentionally at least:S
[14:28] <dontknow> i can't see internal flash player in plugins tab
[14:28] <gccster> ActionParsnip, well it is not working
[14:28] <maddinw> I have access to the tunneling service at ssh.silenceisdefeat.com and I can build a tunnel.
[14:28] <L3top> sirriffsalot: disable the onboard in bios
[14:29] <sirriffsalot> Onboard...
[14:29] <Ashkot> i think i am in love with kde
[14:29] <sirriffsalot> Will that be the G 100 one?
[14:29] <maddinw> I use the command ssh -D 8000 -Nf sd
[14:29] <L3top> no
[14:29] <maddinw> With sd being the host defined in ~/.ssh/confid
[14:29] <maddinw> *config
[14:29] <L3top> wait
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> gccster: so the command is no good :(
[14:29] <L3top> perhaps
[14:30] <sirriffsalot> L3top: so the (rev 2) GeForce 8200?
[14:30] <maddinw> I can open it, but I would like to have it at startup so I dont need to open it up myself all the time.+
[14:30] <Ashkot> ActionParsnip : thank you :)
[14:30] <maddinw> So I edited my /etc/rc.local file and inserted the command in there.
[14:31] <L3top> sirriffsalot: I would expect that that is your onboard.  however in the bios it will likely identify as "onboard"
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> Ashkot: np man :)
[14:31] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I'll have a look, thanks for suggesting! Brb
[14:31] <maddinw> But the tunnel is not available after startup. I have activated public key authentification, but that does not make a difference I guess.
[14:31] <L3top> sirriffsalot: is this an asus m3n78 bpard by chance?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> gccster: does the system have a make and model?
[14:32] <L3top> s/bpard/board/
[14:32] <luser> excuse me, anyone knows what's the difference in "lspci -k" output between "Kernel driver in use" and "Kernel modules"?
[14:32] <gccster> ActionParsnip, you mean my laptops firm?
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> in use mean loaded.. vs ones that could be loaded.
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> gccster: the full model please
[14:32]  * Dr_Willis guesses
[14:33] <gccster> ActionParsnip, its a local company its an i5 intel 4gb ram nothing special
[14:33] <maddinw> Any idea?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> luser: possibly the ones in use are being used now, but some may be loaded but doing nothing
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> gccster: so its not a dell or acer etc?
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> some devices could use differnt modules. I know of several network cards that have differnt drivers that COULD be used for them
[14:34]  * L3top guesses Dr_Willis's guess is right
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> gccster: run:  sudo dmidecode -t 1    can you pastebin the output please
[14:34] <gccster> ActionParsnip, nop i think it must be a interface command that im measing like auto wan0 etc
[14:34] <luser> ActionParsnip: these era two lspci output of two different installations (dual boot): http://pastebin.com/LhrXyvgC
[14:34] <rufensis> maddinw: i've never tried loading an ssh login at bootup.
[14:35] <luser> ActionParsnip: the strange thing is that in both installation lsmod shows the pata_marvell module
[14:35] <Erealz> hey guys i have a question im running ubuntu 12.04 64bit lts. i haveing a problem when trying to visit a website that was working fine a some time ago.  also i cant reach my shellaccount? but if i connect to my vpn then and retry the page loadsup? and the shell account login come up? what could be causeing this?
[14:35] <gccster> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/5N1LtwWC
[14:36] <maddinw> I think it is possible - Im okay with entering the password to allow access to my private keys - but I heard that Linux is flexible so I though this might not pose much of a problem.
[14:37] <mosno> i found something that fixes my gnome-panel notification area problem until i logout again: if i open appearance properties and pick another GTK+ theme, it fixes my notification area. it remains fixed even if i switch back to the orginal theme (Ambiance)
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> you can set up ssh keys where you just do a 'ssh host' and it auto starts up with no passwords needed. thats easy enough
[14:37] <Onixs> i just installed 12.04 on my powerbook!
[14:37] <Dwezzel> Does someone knows why updates are so slow today ?  From Canada... ???   Or maybe it's only me....
[14:37] <maddinw> Dr_Willis: Could you explain that a but further please?
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> Dwezzel:  been slow for 4+ days
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | maddinw
[14:38] <Dwezzel> Thx Dr_Willis
[14:38] <sirriffsalot> L3top: Hi... I went into the bios (I'm on a acer aspire machine) and I can't find any options to disable the graphics cards....... this is getting annoying lol
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> gccster: ok, if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    what driver is the wifi using?
[14:38] <Prsm> Hello, How do you portforward on Ubuntu without router access?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  you generate the keys copy the pub to the server. and    ssh foo, i get a prompt no need to enter  a pass
[14:38]  * Erealz i need help trobleshooting a problem ,im running ubuntu 12.04 64bit lts. i haveing a problem when trying to visit a website that was working fine a some time ago.  also i cant reach my shellaccount? but if i connect to my vpn then and retry the page loadsup? and the shell account login come up? what could be causeing this?
[14:38] <Dwezzel> Dr_Willis: Nobody knows when it will be fixed ??
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> Dwezzel:  no idea
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> Prsm: if you are using a router you need to set it up there
[14:38] <Dwezzel> Thx anyway Dr_Willis
[14:39] <maddinw> Dr_Willis: why should I use PuTTy on a system that has SSH  build into it? I have the public key on the host, but this does still require me to open the tunnel after startup.
[14:39] <gccster> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/ZJfFH2tQ
[14:39] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: disable what graphics? in favor of what?
[14:39] <L3top> sirriffsalot: let me look at something
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  you dont need to use putty client on linux, unless you like its features.
[14:39] <maddinw> And I use dynamic forwarding...local forwarding does not really work.
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> gccster: ok, reboot then run:   sudo modprobe -r ath9k ; sleep 2; sudo modprobe ath9k
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  you can use  the command line to set up tunnels and so forth
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> gccster: does it then work?
[14:40] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: L3top suggested I do that, since I have two graphic cards showing up when I want to know of their usage
[14:40] <gccster> ActionParsnip, ok give me a moment
[14:40] <maddinw> Dr_Willis: I know. I do that, but I can't open them at startup.
[14:40] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: the 2 you pasted were the exact same model.
[14:40] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: uhm... no? Different numbers and on different lines, how can they be the same?!-.-
[14:40] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: i know of no OEM that will embed 2 discrete nVidia GPUs into a system.
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  you can make shell scripts start at login.
[14:41] <Erealz> ok
[14:41] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: OEM?
[14:41] <L3top> I dont think so.
[14:41] <L3top>  03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G98 [GeForce G 100] [10de:06e6] (rev a1)  and 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] [10de:084b] (rev a2)
[14:41] <Dr_Willis>  stuff in .config/autostart starts at login. if set up right
[14:41] <L3top> they have different pci-ids
[14:41] <maddinw> Dr_Willis: I already edited my /etc/init.d/rc.local and inserted "ssh -D 8000 user@host"
[14:41] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: 07:56 < sirriffsalot> product: G98 [GeForce G 100] and product: G98 [GeForce G 100]
[14:41] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: ah yea, copied wrong on that one:P
[14:42] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: what L3top just linked is correct..
[14:42] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: this is a laptop?
[14:42] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: nope, just a shitty PC
[14:42] <Erealz> umm how about this command would i issue to find out why a certain  page is load and or haveing trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?
[14:42] <L3top> looks like a nettop
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  stuff in rc.local get ran by root.. so you need to set up the keys in  the root users dir i imagine.
[14:42] <sirriffsalot> L3top: It's an acer aspire x3200...
[14:42] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: do you have a PCI(-E) graphics card in it?
[14:42] <L3top> I am not sure what benefit the addin card is.
[14:42] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: how do I check?
[14:42] <L3top> I was loking them up.
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  useing su -c  in rc.local lets the command get ran by a user and use the users stuff.
[14:43] <Erealz> umm how about this?what  command would i issue to find out why a certain  page isn't loading and or having trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?
[14:43] <luser> ActionParsnip: excuse me, don't you think these output are "strange"? http://pastebin.com/VVTazGHN vs http://pastebin.com/7CD3YzBV
[14:43] <sivam> hi i want to install sun-jdk6 or sun-jdk7
[14:43] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: does the monitor cable plug into the motherboard, as well as an expansion slot? a choice?
[14:43] <sivam> hi i want to install sun-jdk6 or sun-jdk7
[14:43] <maddinw> Dr_Willis: This sounds plausible...I will try it out
[14:44] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: uhm, the monitor cable is plugged into the "top"
[14:44] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: there is only one place to plug in a monitor?
[14:44] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: no, two
[14:44] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: trying to find a picture for you to see the rear
[14:44] <Erealz> umm how about this?what  command would i issue to find out why a certain  page isn't loading and or having trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?
[14:44] <maddinw> Thank you very much so far...see you after my reboot.
[14:44] <knutremi> Hi. I'm having trouble with gedit and FTP. Some of the files I save go empty at random. I asked yesterday but no one had an answer.
[14:44] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: look at the rearward port. is it an expansion slot?
[14:45] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: http://www.google.no/imgres?q=acer+aspir+x3200&um=1&hl=no&safe=off&client=opera&sa=N&rls=en&channel=suggest&tbm=isch&tbnid=vo1hpHAKoo4MrM:&imgrefurl=http://www.saverstore.com/product/20029938/Acer-Aspire-X3200-Athlon-64-X2-5000-26GHz-3GB-RAM-320GB-DVDRW-LAN-Vista-Home-GeForce&docid=kZYs605ci8V55M&imgurl=http://images2.icecat.biz/img/gallery/2059992_6279.jpg&w=1024&h=1206&ei=PAO5T5miB4PYtA
[14:45] <sirriffsalot> Lol
[14:45] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: expansion slot? How do I tell?:$
[14:45] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: in that picture I'm connected to the top one
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> luser: is the module 'ahci' loaded in the system with the smaller output? I imagine the one with more text is the 'ok'one....
[14:45]  * Erealz what  command would i issue to find out why a certain  page isn't loading and or having trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?
[14:45] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: that "top one" is an expansion card.
[14:46] <sirriffsalot> mneptok:  yea, I figured... What about that?
[14:46] <knutremi> Please, at least tell me where to ask my question, if you haven't got any answers.
[14:46] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: that's probably the GeForce 8200.
[14:46] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: Ok?
[14:46] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: what's the point?:D
[14:46] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: want me to take it out?
[14:46] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: the mobo probably has the G100 embedded
[14:46] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: I've done it before
[14:46] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: I suppose the GeForce 8200 is better...
[14:46] <luser> ActionParsnip: yes, the more output is the ok one and yes, it is ahci module is shown by lsmod also in the "broken" one
[14:46] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: what is it you are trying to do exactly?
[14:47]  * Erealz what  command would i issue to find out why a certain  page isn't loading and or having trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?
[14:47] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: anyway where are we going with all of this?
[14:47] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: you're the one asking for help. you tell me.
[14:47] <knutremi> T_T
[14:47] <Sidewinder> knutremi, What do you mean by "go empty at random?"
[14:47] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: I just want the right nvidia driver installed..:) Haha
[14:47] <luser> ActionParsnip: i don't understand why lspci doesn't show the "Kernel modules" line...
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/   tried that
[14:48] <Erealz> it just me
[14:48] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: right now nvidia-settings tells me I have none installed..
[14:48] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: there is no "right" nVidia driver. nVidia issues a single, monolithic binary blob driver for Linux that supports the devices they choose.
[14:48] <knutremi> Sidewinder: I save the files directly to FTP. Then for inexplicable reasons, some of them go empty in the meantime.
[14:48] <luser> ActionParsnip: any idea?
[14:48] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: well I at least want some nvidia driver installed so my graphics won't be complete crap:)
[14:49] <Erealz> god damn
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> luser: maybe it needs the 2.6.35 (or later) to work
[14:49] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: why do you need the proprietary driver from nVidia? what does the "nouveau" driver in the kernel lack that you need?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: possibly a bad DNS
[14:49] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: trying to run a game in wine, and I've spent 12 hours trying to configure the graphics right in wine and the game itself so it'll be viewable at least...
[14:49] <sa7elak> how to copy a directory with its content to another place from terminal ?
[14:49] <luser> ActionParsnip: well, i hope it's not the reason... the 2.6.32 has the ability to load that module in menuconfig...
[14:50] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: it runs at 12-18 fps.... has to be driver missing
[14:50] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: and as it turns out there isn't one installed:P Explains a lot
[14:50] <luser> ActionParsnip: is there anything else i can test?
[14:50] <knutremi> Sidewinder: I have no idea if it happens as they're being saved, or something happens in the background without my intervention.
[14:50] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: if you want my honest opinion, if you want to run games, just install Windows. WINE is not a solution.
[14:50] <Sidewinder> knutremi, I'm very sorry but I just don't understand your question.
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> luser: what distro/versions are the boots
[14:51] <iceroot> sa7elak: cp -r /path/to/dir /path/to/target
[14:51] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: that isn't an option right now, and many people run it absolutely fine. Would you mind telling me how to get a nvidia driver installed and just see how it goes? If you're right after that then there we go
[14:51] <GeneralEater> Hi.
[14:51] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: there is no driver missing. you are using the 2D-only "nouveau" open source nVidia driver that is built-in to the Linux kernel.
[14:51] <L3top> sirriffsalot: can you please tell me the output of apt-cache policy nvidia-current | grep Installed
[14:51] <maddinw> Hello again.
[14:51] <sirriffsalot> L3top: hmm Installed: (none)
[14:52] <maddinw> Unfortunately my attempt did not work quite well...
[14:52] <knutremi> I need to figure out if gedit has problems saving to FTP or if it will remove file contents without my knowledge.
[14:52] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: Well, 2D explains a lot then! it's a 3D game:P
[14:52] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: be aware, there are TONS of people here every week that complain about how the proprietary nVidia driver has broken their system.
[14:52] <L3top> sirriffsalot: if I were you, I would sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
[14:52] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: I'm one of them..:)
[14:52] <GeneralEater> Is it possible to do a sort of "Factory Reset", where all my personal files are wiped from the hard drive, but the OS stays?
[14:52] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: and you want to install it anyway>
[14:52] <mneptok> !?
[14:52] <sirriffsalot> L3top: trying that then, finger crossed:)
[14:52] <sirriffsalot> sirriffsalot: I can just remove it again if it fails?:P
[14:52] <L3top> mneptok: there is a problem with 295.40 imo. The nvidia-current-updates package seems much happier.
[14:53] <knutremi> Because my hard work is being irreversably deleted when I'm editing files stored on FTP through gedit.
[14:53] <maddinw> Dr_Willis: I have added the line: udo su maddinw -c ssh -D 8000 -fN<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:53] <mneptok> L3top: i;m not talking about just recent events. i'm talking about what i have seen on this channel in the past 6 years.
[14:53] <maddinw> sudo su maddinw -c ssh -D 8000 -fN<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:53] <gccster> ActionParsnip, i tried it nothing happened every time i boot i have to click Enable Wireless on gnome to start the wireless adapter
[14:54] <sirriffsalot> L3top: nvidia-current-updates nvidia-settings-updates these two packages were going to be installed as a result... sound right?
[14:54] <luser> ActionParsnip: the wotking one is ubuntu 10.10 and the "broken" one is debian squeeze
[14:54] <luser> i'm also asking in the debian community...
[14:54] <ardian> Hi I have the classic gnome menu how can I add the minimize max and close button to the upper panel ?
[14:54] <ardian> like in os x ?
[14:54] <L3top> nvidia has had the best proprietary support historically imo. If you just don't like closed source, I can respect that... but, we use nvidia extensively and I only dislike this set of drivers
[14:54] <L3top> yes sirriffsalot
[14:55] <flowerpot> GeneralEater, it's usually not that easy.  Something might have come with your version of ubuntu (I don't know though), but one method would be to just run a tool from a livecd to clean the drive, then re-install Ubuntu.
[14:55] <mneptok> L3top: you have opinion. i have 6 years of logs. :)
[14:55] <maddinw> Does anyone know what I am doing wrong?
[14:55] <sirriffsalot> L3top: praying for some luck...:D
[14:56] <sirriffsalot> L3top: alright, shall I just reboot now when it's finished installing?
[14:56] <GeneralEater> flowerpot, Okay, I'll do that then.
[14:56] <Erealz> ActionParsnip i thought of that and changed the dns to google dns on my router to no avail? it weird becouse if i connect to my vpn the page loads up and i can get to my shell account login why else might it be
[14:56] <flowerpot> maddinw, what are you trying to do?
[14:56] <maddinw> flowerpot: I am trying to get my SSH-Tunnel working at startup
[14:57] <L3top> mneptok: Again... I am sure you have ati problems, and intel problems... we use compositing and accelleration for h264 in our project, and nvidia has always worked just dandy... we auto detect and install... and it all works great, except this latest slew... your "opinion" is noted
[14:57] <L3top> yes sirriffsalot
[14:57] <sirriffsalot> L3top: haha:) cheers. rebooting then. *prays incessantly*
[14:58] <maddinw> flowerpot: so I edited /etc/init.d/rc.local
[14:58] <flowerpot> maddinw, what's up with the first "udo su" in your line?
[14:58] <flowerpot> maddinw, could you upload your rc.local and share it if it doesn't contain any sensitive information?
[14:58] <maddinw> flowerpot: bash didnt catch that anymore...it does not. I can upload it to pastebin.
[14:59] <wolfcore> maddinw: you don't need _both_ sudo and su, only sudo
[14:59] <sirriffsalot> L3top: Now my system details says I have "GeForce G100/PCIe/SSE2 " as a driver:D
[14:59] <c0deMaster> anybody running openvpn ?  i'm the internet speed is extremely slow
[14:59] <maddinw> Alright...I will upload it anyway now.
[14:59] <ardian> Get Unity-Like Window Buttons On The Top any help about this
[14:59] <L3top> Check performance sirriffsalot.
[15:00] <sirriffsalot> L3top: in what way?
[15:00] <L3top> however you did before :P
[15:00] <sirriffsalot> L3top: logging in to the game:P
[15:01] <L3top> sirriffsalot: as a side benefit... you can likely use multiple monitors, and enable twinview in the nvidia config gui.
[15:01] <Orpheon> I'm having big problems with wine and opengl
[15:01] <maddinw> flowerpot: http://pastebin.com/7r0TbwHM
[15:01] <Orpheon> it's complaining that it can't find opengl
[15:01] <sirriffsalot> L3top: don't have enough space for that
[15:01] <sirriffsalot> Hmmmm
[15:01] <sirriffsalot> L3top: Hang on
[15:01] <Orpheon> I tried completely reinstalling the nvidia drivers, wine, mesa, and everything opengl-related I could find
[15:02] <sirriffsalot> L3top: FPS went from 12-18 to -25-30!!
[15:02] <sirriffsalot> L3top: you're my hero
[15:02] <Orpheon> I even tried copying 32 bit opengl libraries and stuck them in /usr/lib, /usr/lib32, /usr/local/lib
[15:02] <sirriffsalot> L3top: now my ego kicks in... how do I check which nvidia driver is installed? GeForce G100/PCIe/SSE2  I suppose is the name?:p
[15:03] <L3top> apt-cache policy nvidia-current-updates  will tell you specifics.
[15:03] <sirriffsalot> L3top: just out of wanting to learn, where do you learn all this stuff from? I'd like to be able to handle this myself in the future, haha:)
[15:04] <maddinw> sirriffsalot: experience and commitment.
[15:04] <maddinw> flowerpot: and idea what I should try out?
[15:04] <sirriffsalot> maddinw: I have the latter and starting to get former
[15:04] <Orpheon> any wine experience?
[15:04] <sirriffsalot> L3top: But is there some webpage where they cover this very specifically? Ubuntupage of some kind?
[15:04] <Orpheon> or driver installation?
[15:04] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: a little:)
[15:05] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: a lot!
[15:05] <MestreLion> Guys, I'm having a weird bug in Software Center: "Turn On Recommendations" is not working: I sign in, it shows "submitting inventory", but nothing happens. No recommendations, and if I exit and open again, it shows the same Turn On"  button again. Any clues?
[15:05] <Orpheon> great!
[15:05] <Orpheon> can you please help me with this?
[15:05] <L3top> I do all of the graphics autodetection and configuration for a project that has a media player... I made the mistake of poking around in the source code trying to make more available, and now it's just sort of what I do. We went from only using nvidia, to just about everything out there. To summerize... just dig into some code somewhere.
[15:05] <sirriffsalot> L3top: Uhm, that command says among other things "295.49-0ubuntu0.1 "
[15:06] <L3top> correct... that is the driver you are using... 295.49.
[15:06] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I have no experience in "digging" in codes nor desire to try, I'd smash my computer by the end of a week
[15:06] <sirriffsalot> L3top: but... what does that mean? Is it "the latest"? The most stable??
[15:06] <flowerpot> maddinw, I don't know if the sudo command will work, but I suggest you put this in your ~/.bashrc or ~.bash_profile files instead
[15:06] <MestreLion> (i've tried to delete all settings and configs (and keys) of Software Center, but no matter which account I sign in, Recommendations does not work. Any troubleshooting clues?
[15:07] <Orpheon> I execute a windows exe that has always worked for me these past 2 years
[15:07] <Orpheon> http://pastebin.com/RHEqt9xD
[15:07] <Orpheon> especially these lines
[15:07] <Orpheon> err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly (using GL renderer "GeForce GTX 460 SE/PCIe/SSE2", version "1.4 (2.1.2 NVIDIA 295.49)").
[15:07] <maddinw> flowerpot: alright...I will reboot, try it out and give you feedback. Thank you so far.
[15:07] <Orpheon> err:d3d_caps:WineD3D_CreateFakeGLContext Can't find a suitable iPixelFormat.
[15:07] <Orpheon> err:d3d:InitAdapters Failed to get a gl context for default adapter
[15:07] <Orpheon> Direct3D8 is not available without OpenGL.
[15:07] <FloodBot1> Orpheon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:07] <flowerpot> you can remove the sudo su maddinw -c part
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. when reencoding a video. Ive noticed the thumbnail  frame changes. Anyone noticed a tool that would let me select what frame is used for the initial/thumbnail  frame? Be nice to have the grandkids face on the videos that star them. ;)
[15:07] <basso> exit
[15:08] <basso> so hardcore
[15:08] <maddinw> Dr_Willis pointed out that rc.local runs with root permissions and thus will not know the public key I have put on the host.
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> MestreLion:  i find the software recommendations to be rahter... pointless..
[15:08] <L3top> what version is there is up to the cononical folks. I believe right now the most current is in the 302 range, but I don't test each one for stability... using 295.40 as buntu's stable version was a mistake imo... but what do I know... If you want to experiment you can check out xorg edgers PPA, they have bleeding edge debian packages.
[15:08] <Etale> I have a question: I'm getting a new laptop tomorrow, and I want to install Linux on it. At first I was thinking of Gentoo, because it's the most customizable. But I understand that to install anything on it (even firefox) takes forever. What would you recommend? Ultimately, I want something that is like Ubuntu but isn't as heavy. Should I go with a low-fat version of Ubuntu, or perhaps with
[15:08] <Etale> Debian?
[15:08] <L3top> sirriffsalot: ^
[15:08] <mneptok> L3top: like i said, it is opinion based on a very deep experience with Ubuntu users.
[15:08] <Etale> I'm a noob at this point, but I have no problem learning as much as is needed. It will be fun for me.
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  personally id set up a script that does it all then run that script from rc.local - BUT ifyou are using encrypted homes that may be another issue i just thought of.
[15:08] <iceroot> Etale: lubuntu
[15:09] <iceroot> Etale: if you want a light system based on ubuntu
[15:09] <maddinw> Dr_Willis: I do have /home encrypted.
[15:09] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I think I'll leave well enough alone for now, lol:D
[15:09] <sirriffsalot> L3top: thanks a million for your help!
[15:09] <L3top> mneptok: and mine is based on making all of these work without any user interaction at all... on any hardware with any display.
[15:09] <L3top> np sirriffsalot.
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  then even at boot up the key files wont be getting read i belive...
[15:09] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: you too, thanks for your time!
[15:09] <sirriffsalot> And everyone else:)
[15:09] <Orpheon> @L3top: I tried xorg edgers. I couldn't even configure the nvidia server settings, my entire screen was distorted, so I went back to nvidia-current
[15:09] <MestreLion> Dr_Willis: true, but a buggy Software CEnter that does not stick settings makes me a little worried about using it to buy software, for example
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  i never encrypt home. ;()
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> Etale: lubuntu is light, or install minimal then install fluxbox
[15:10] <mneptok> Orpheon: boot to a previous kernel and see if your nVidia drivers work there.
[15:10] <Orpheon> uhh
[15:10] <flowerpot> maddinw, if you put the script in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile it won't start the tunnel until you log in...  if you're cool with root or whatever process init runs as owning the tunnel, then just remove the sudo su stuff and try again.  Also, FYI, sudo su isn't necessary; sudo can run commands as another user.
[15:10] <Orpheon> how do I boot to a previous kernel
[15:10] <Orpheon> ?
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> MestreLion:  i dont plan on ever buying anything via software center.. actually i rarelyuse software center
[15:10] <Orpheon> I have a few backups
[15:10] <Orpheon> of these last months /usr and /home
[15:10] <Orpheon> if that helps
[15:10] <zykotick9> Orpheon: hold SHIFT after BIOS to get grub menu
[15:10] <mneptok> Orpheon: <esc> early in the boot to get a boot menu
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Orpheon: hold shift at boot then select the old kernel
[15:10] <Etale> iceroot, ActionParsnip, I see that on the wiki page of lubuntu it says: "low-RAM environment for netbooks, mobile devices and older PCs". My laptop is going to be a 8GB monster. Is it still a good option?
[15:10] <cristian_c> Hi
[15:10] <Orpheon> ok
[15:11] <L3top> again Orpheon that is bleeding edge stuff... whether or not that days release is stable on whatever specific card you have is a bit of a coin toss... I was not trying to recommend it for anything other than experiment.
[15:11] <MestreLion> good for you Dr_Willis.... But I still would like mine to work bug-free. Does anyone have any experience in Software CEnter settings and troubleshooting?
[15:11] <cristian_c> How can I enable pinch gesture on my touchpad with ubuntu?
[15:11] <iceroot> Etale: yes
[15:11] <Etale> I just don't want all the junk in Ubuntu that I will never use.
[15:11] <Etale> What would you say about Debian?
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> MestreLion: its also possible the slowdown/issues with the ubuntu servers are causing the problem.
[15:11] <maddinw> flowerpot: I will try it now without the sudo su stuff.
[15:11] <Etale> How close is the Debian experience from Ubuntu?
[15:11] <flowerpot> Etale, such as?  You may find that slightly more junk is preferable to slightly less junk on a desktop.
[15:11] <cristian_c> How can I use this page: http://askubuntu.com/questions/11300/how-do-i-test-multi-gesture-capabilities-of-a-touchpad for enabling pinch?
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  depends on what desktopps you install. ;)
[15:12] <Etale> OXFCE
[15:12] <Etale> Sorry...
[15:12] <Etale> I meant I want XFCE with compiz.
[15:12] <zykotick9> Etale: while ubuntu and debian are technically very similar, the two projects have very different goals - and are thus "very different", though technically similar ;)
[15:12] <flowerpot> IMO Ubuntu tends to "just work" and Debian requires a little more effort.
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> why would you want xfce with compiz? xfce has its own window manager. ;0
[15:12] <Sidewinder> MestreLion, You might prefer Synaptic instead of Software Center; it's (Synaptic) in the repos.
[15:13] <Etale> zykotick9, I want an environment that is customizable, but also has the option of being easy to work with if I have to get something done fast.
[15:13] <MestreLion> Dr_Willis: maybe, but I think it's unlikely... I've tried yesterday and today, in very differnt hours
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> MestreLion:  the servers have been problematic for 3+ days now
[15:13] <Etale> Dr_Willis, because I really like compiz, and XFCE is the lightest window manager I could find. For example compiz doesn't work on fluxbox.
[15:13] <MestreLion> ... and it worked in a live session I've used yesterday
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  xfce is a desktop that uses the xfwm window manager.
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  fluxbox and compiz are both window managers...
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  you can set up a compiz session to run whatever other extra programs you want and build your own desktop.
[15:14] <Etale> BTW, I hear that Gentoo has the best package repository. Is it possible to use those packages in Debian/Ubuntu?
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  'best' is vague and debateable.
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  they use a sourced based system. so its more up to date. but can still have problems. and no they are not  compatable with ubuntu
[15:15] <flowerpot> Etale, it's best not to mix packages between distros.  There are small differences that can muck up the results (e.g. different paths).
[15:15] <zykotick9> Etale: and gentoo doesn't typically use "packages", it's a source based distro
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Etale: ubuntu minimal + fluxbox + slim comes in at about 1.2Gb  then you'll need a network manager app like wicd if you want to use wifi easily
[15:15] <Etale> Dr_Willis, I don't really understand. If I want compiz to work, and I want it to be as lightweight as possible, then what would you suggest?
[15:15] <Etale> flowerpot, thanks.
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  compiz and lightweight are two very opposite things. :)
[15:15] <MestreLion> Sidewinder:  i'm an ubuntu user since Karmic... synaptic is great if I want an in-depth tech details on a given package.... but I still would like Software Center to work properly, specially regarding SSO
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  if you want light  and a decently featured desktop = Lubuntu, then lxde/lubuntu,
[15:16] <Etale> ActionParsnip, what's the difference between Ubuntu minimal and lubuntu?
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  lightest = just a widnow manager with no extra apps. ie openbox
[15:16] <Etale> Dr_Willis, but would compiz work on openbox?
[15:16] <zykotick9> Etale: mini is the debian net-installer (text only) - with LOTS of options, including installing a base non-gui system, then adding what you actually want.
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Etale: minimal is just kernel + boot loader + drivers
[15:17] <MarcoFe> hi guys
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  compiz and openbox are BOTH window managers..  they replace each other.
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Etale: plus a few basic apps, all text based
[15:17] <theadmin> Etale: That doesn't even make sense. One window manager does not work "on" another window manager. You can't run two at the same time.
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  linux is all about layers. ;)
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> desktop = a window manager + extra apps.
[15:17] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Ha, that's a good one :)
[15:17] <MestreLion> besides, the new revamped Software Center is one of the major, key Ubuntu selling points... so it is a bit weird that instead of trying to help with it, you are suggesting a 10+ years software.
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Etale: lubunu adds an x server, LXDE, openbox and some applications like web browser, office productivity etc
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> MestreLion:  most people seemt o hate the software center.
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> im getting where i like the android market even less and less. ;)
[15:18] <Orpheon> back
[15:18] <Orpheon> didn't help
[15:18] <MestreLion> and most people hate Unity. Still, this is #ubuntu. If you hate it, use something else
[15:18] <knutremi> I wrote a more in-depth explaination of my FTP + gedit problem in the Ubuntu pastebin.
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> its very likely the reccomendation servers are slow/down. i can barely get apt-get to even work for the last 4+ days
[15:18] <Etale> Let's say I install Debian. How different is that from installing lubuntu?
[15:19] <knutremi> !paste 997512
[15:19] <Sidewinder> MestreLion, I totally understand; my use of SC is not that extensive so I don't have a definitive answer for you, sorry. Synaptic has always met my needs so I am much more familiar with it. Please keep in mind that both Synaptic and Software Center are merely gui front ends for apt-get
[15:19] <knutremi> Uh that's not how I paste?
[15:19] <knutremi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/997512/
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> and apt-get update - has been going on here for like 40 min now.. normally takes 40 sec. ;(
[15:19] <MestreLion> Dr_Willis: that is not the problem. If I re-open SC, it suggests me trying to Turn On recommendations again, so that setting is not being saved
[15:20] <MarcoFe> i've a problem with my audio...for example when use it with skype or google+ plugin to conference chat, after a bit time, audio is mute...anyone have this problem?
[15:20] <vexaxv> hey guys im using ubuntu 12.04 and got this error when trying to install "ia32-libs" through synaptic "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/eglibc/libc6_2.15-0ubuntu10_i386.deb" what do i do?
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> MestreLion:  ive seen cases where people runs tuff as root and it writes config files to the users home.
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> vexaxv:  servers have been real slow last few days. try it again.
[15:21] <g0th> hi