[00:00] <nullius> minimec, i assumed it would and thanks for the link, forgot to say
[00:00] <nullius> the mate look is nice
[00:02] <minimec> nullius: I run Mate 18.04 64bit on a 2GB RAM Chromebook. Quiet happy with the performance and memory usage.
[00:04] <nullius> minimec, i hop a lot between types, i found mate to be speedy as well
[00:29] <luxio> is 18.04 releasing tomorrow?
[00:31] <antonm> yes
[00:31] <jahtemg> yup
[00:32] <oobiedoobie> mic check
[00:32] <oobiedoobie> hi folks
[00:33] <luxio> is there a release time?
[00:33] <oobiedoobie> I can't recall where to find the release countdown timer online
[00:33] <luxio> or just at any point tomorrow?
[00:33] <T7TT777TT7> are you oobie doobie, or oobied oobie ?
[00:33] <leo_> waiting for 18.04 impatiently...
[00:33] <oobiedoobie> there user to be domething like countdown.ubuntu.com, but google is no use
[00:33] <phil42> get today's daily,  it is almost certainly to the release version
[00:34] <phil42> identical to
[00:34] <oobiedoobie> T7TT777TT7: former. just picked a random name toget oline
[00:34] <oobiedoobie> phil42? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[00:35] <leo_> it should just update to final when it's released?
[00:36] <leo_> with apt full-upgrade
[00:37] <guiverc> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ for daily build  (2018-04-25 22:49)
[00:38] <guiverc> sorry oobiedoobie - didn't see your post
[00:42] <oobiedoobie> guiverc: all good
[00:42] <oobiedoobie> can anyone recall where that countdown timer was?
[00:43] <oobiedoobie> it's a little sad that the fanfaire & celebratory mood around ubuntu is somewhat bygone
[00:43] <oobiedoobie> I'm not really getting all that exited any more - may be saying more about myself than my tech stack of choice
[00:43] <wedgie> oobiedoobie: we made it all the way around the alphabet... the novelty has worn off :P
[00:44] <leo_> it's 2:45AM here :D
[00:44] <oobiedoobie> not such a rabid Open Sourcer any more - still FLOSS'ing, just not so ra-ra about it...
[00:45] <leo_> i gave up... almost finished downloading daily
[00:45] <jsubl2> I downloaded and installed the daily image 4 days ago... been great
[00:47] <xamithan> Why don't you guys go to the release party channel for all that noise
[00:49] <nullius> this one #ubuntu-release-party ?
[00:49] <xamithan> Yeah
[00:50] <kawon> hey guys, 18.04 is coming out today, right?
[00:50] <leo_> yep
[00:50] <kawon> on wiki.ubuntu.com it just says hasn't been released yet in the release notes
[00:50] <kawon> k, nice ^_^
[00:55] <gogeta> kawon, delayed untill 2090
[00:56] <kawon> gogeta, nooooooooooooooo! O_o
[00:57] <kawon> well guys, just checking, you have fun, cyall
[01:05] <L34rn3r> i am having issues to deleting gateways on my ubunutu server 17.10, and i cant find the correct information anywhere, can someone help me please? <3
[01:06] <xamithan> gateways?
[01:06] <antonm> ^
[01:06] <L34rn3r> used to be here /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg
[01:06] <L34rn3r> as far as i googled
[01:06] <xamithan> That is RHEL
[01:07] <antonm> try /etc/network/interfaces
[01:07] <L34rn3r> thanks <3
[01:07] <antonm> np
[01:10] <L34rn3r> yes, cant find the answer, after i used pppoeconf everytime i boot, a route with the same ip adress is added, and the internet only start working after i delete this route.
[01:10] <L34rn3r> Destination <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> UH 0 0 0 ppp0
[01:11] <L34rn3r> if someone knows what is hapening or have time to help me out would be apreciated
[01:27] <vktr> hi. can anyone tell me how i correctly add "compose:something" to this https://pastebin.com/e3M2943T ?
[01:28] <SlidingHorn> vktr: what exactly is this for?  What are you trying to accomplish?
[01:29] <kos> hello
[01:30] <kos> 有玩中文的吗
[01:30] <vktr> SlidingHorn: i want to have a compose key to use special characters. e.g. e and a with accenst to use in french
[01:31] <SlidingHorn> !cn | kos
[01:31] <vktr> SlidingHorn: http://duncanlock.net/blog/2013/05/03/how-to-set-your-compose-key-on-xfce-xubuntu-lxde-linux/ like here. but i already have some stuff on this line
[01:31] <gogeta> vktr, et your keybord to us-international
[01:31] <gogeta> set
[01:32] <SlidingHorn> kos: please don't pm people without asking
[01:32] <luxio> is there a release time? or can it be at any point tomorrow?
[01:33] <SlidingHorn> luxio: no specific time - just whenever the servers are ready
[01:33] <kos> OK
[01:33] <luxio> ready for what?
[01:33] <kos> SlidingHorn：ok
[01:33] <SlidingHorn> luxio: when the final iso us uploaded and announced
[01:33] <vktr> gogeta: it is (one of two layouts), just see i can set the compose key here in the GUI
[01:34] <xamithan> Do a /join #ubuntu-release-party
[01:34] <gogeta> vktr, us-international has a compose key mapping
[01:42] <vktr> gogeta: got it, thanks
[01:47] <Slade> samba is the answer for a windows desktop environment and ubuntu server environment, isnt it? nothing cleaner, etc?
[01:48] <leftyfb> Slade: depends on what the question is
[01:59] <zayafa> will ubuntu18.04LTS release today?
[02:00] <gogeta> zayafa, nope the servers burned down
[02:00] <gogeta> zayafa, microsoft did it
[02:00] <zayafa> 😐
[02:01] <asprazz> gogeta: are u kidding or serious?  😑
[02:02] <gogeta> asprazz, well they will be ddosed by the user base
[02:02] <gogeta> asprazz, all those download request
[02:03] <asprazz> gogeta okey so you are talking about downloading traffic :)
[02:04] <gogeta> asprazz, yes lol
[02:04] <xamithan> Go checkout #ubuntu-release-party
[02:09] <Slade> leftyfb, could you elaborate on some of the alternatives given the goal of trying to make a seemless experience for the desktop users?
[02:09] <gogeta> Slade, ?
[02:10] <Slade> gogeta, ??
[02:10] <gogeta> Slade, ???
[02:10] <nacc> stop it.
[02:10] <nacc> Slade: wants windows desktops and linux servers
[02:10] <nacc> Slade: samba is an answer to that, yes, where samba can be an AD, and serve data, etc.
[02:10] <gogeta> nacc, should be pretty straght foward
[02:11] <nacc> Slade: I'm not sure if there are others
[02:11] <Slade> can samba be a domain controller?
[02:11] <gogeta> nacc, samba on linux 2 windows is slowwwww
[02:11] <Slade> the PDC
[02:11] <nacc> Slade: yes, I believe so
[02:11] <nacc> Slade: but I'd check the docs
[02:11] <nacc> Slade: also #ubuntu-server may be a better place to ask
[02:12] <Slade> the other big hole is the integrated web authentication
[02:12]  * Slade checks out the other channel
[02:12] <L34rn3r> something is adding a route on boot always with the same IP, and i cant find what, any ideia how i can find what it is, or where or how i should look at? ubuntu 17.10
[02:13] <gogeta> Slade, you looking to serve up media files or other stuff
[02:13] <gogeta> Slade, something like nextcloud or owncloud would be good
[02:13] <Slade> gogeta, via what?  no webapps
[02:13] <gogeta> Slade, there cloud servers you run yourself on a local server
[02:14] <Slade> gogeta, sure, but it doesnt have the seemless experience.  i guess SSO is really the big holdup
[02:15] <gogeta> Slade, for just file shares samba should not only work but work out of the box
[02:16] <Slade> hum i had to go down an ldap route
[02:17] <gogeta> Slade, set your workgroup up n the windows side then linux will see them and set your shares done
[02:17] <Slade> not workgroup, domain
[02:17] <Slade> i dont think you can sso with workgroup
[02:18] <Slade> i seem to spend lots of time fighting against PAM :/
[02:19] <granttrec> hey everyone, does the deb file include everything I need to get started? or do I still have to add the PPA etc
[02:19] <gogeta> grandfso, ?
[02:20] <gogeta> grandfso, for the most part the deb file should not need a paa
[02:20] <gogeta> ppa
[02:20] <gogeta> grandfso, a deb file
[02:20] <granttrec> i'm talking about the vbox instructions my bad
[02:21] <gogeta> grandfso, yea it should need need anything extra
[02:21] <granttrec> gogeta: right because it contains the binary
[02:21] <granttrec> ty
[02:21] <nubnub> hey hey
[02:21] <nubnub> just checking in, waiting for ISO to drop
[02:22] <nubnub> stupid question (need 2nd brain), to remove all empty dirs in an external drive?
[02:22] <gogeta> nubnub, nope i stole all the servers and is holding them at ransom
[02:22] <nubnub> find . -type d -empty -delete -exec rmdir {} \;
[02:23] <nubnub> exec & delete being redundant
[02:23] <gogeta> nubnub, they havent payed up yet
[02:23] <nubnub> hehehe
[02:23] <nubnub> when I run above command, it should work, but fails to delete dirs
[02:23] <nubnub> if I list disr & try amnualling rmdir one, it works fine
[02:23] <nubnub> wonder what' up with that...
[02:24] <gogeta> shouldent rmdir be rm -r
[02:25] <nubnub> gogeta: yea - tried that too
[02:26] <nubnub> find . -type d -empty -print | xargs rm -rf
[02:28] <nubnub> getting a lot of "Directory not empty" errors for an rmrf
[02:34] <ca_cabotage> does anyone know what time today Ubuntu 18.04 will be released to download?
[02:34] <Slade> expecting something exciting?
[02:34] <guiverc> ca_cabotage, only the day is announced - time is when its ready
[02:35] <Bashing-om> ca_cabotage: No. It will be when it ready .
[02:35] <ca_cabotage> ok, thank you!
[02:36] <jeremie_> hey
[02:36] <jeremie_> hi brym
[02:40] <L34rn3r> evrytime i reboot or "poff" "pon dsl-provider" a route "<IP_ADDRESS>   <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS> UH    0      0        0 ppp0" is added, and i need to delete it to the internet to work, i cant find what is adding it :(
[02:40] <L34rn3r> halp
[02:42] <nubnub> AreWeThereYet?
[02:42] <nubnub> AreWeThereYet?
[02:42] <nubnub> AreWeThereYet?
[02:50] <xamithan> Just delete the file under /etc/ppp/peers/
[02:50] <xamithan> Then fix your networking config if it is wrong
[02:51] <gogeta> nubnub, nope the check has not cleared
[02:51] <L34rn3r> delete and pppoeconf again you mean?
[03:01] <hearthemusic> when will the updater show the upgrade to 18.04 LTS is available
[03:02] <cfhowlett> not until 18.04.1 hearthemusic
[03:03] <Marquezini> now is 26/04 in brazil, ubuntu 18.04 will be launched now?
[03:04] <Marquezini> and others flavours lubuntu. xubunutu.. ?!!
[03:04] <Marquezini> do-release-upgrade don't works on xubuntu
[03:05] <Slade> wow. docker can be pricey  https://store.docker.com/editions/enterprise/docker-ee-server-ubuntu
[03:05]  * Slade wonders if theres a benefit to the ee edition
[03:07] <SlidingHorn> let's keep the channel to support, please :)  Also, Marquezini, no, the release is not out yet.
[03:09] <Slade> ah sorry forgot it was # and not ## :)
[03:17] <L34rn3r> ok after looking "ip rou" i saw it was written "187.100.2231.9 dev ppp0 proto kernel scope link src 191.255.&&&.&&&", so i did set eth0 ip to<PHONE_NUMBER>.9 and the internet worked without deleting the route
[03:17] <L34rn3r> by some reason my system is not setting the intended eth0 ip?
[03:17] <L34rn3r> <IP_ADDRESS>***
[03:18] <RoadRunner> problems with boot; tried rescue with liveCD (as in here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure); tried rescue with Boot Repair liveUSB (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair). In all cases, a "disk full" error. Yet, df doesn't show any space usage problem on HD (https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kbYM4CPSPv/).  Finally, HD diagnostics show no problem.  Help?
[03:18] <Toadisattva> is there a specific time 18.04 drops tomorrow?
[03:19]  * Toadisattva chompin at the bit to upgrade
[03:19] <SlidingHorn> Toadisattva: no
[03:19] <Bashing-om> Toadisattva: No,it will be when it is ready /
[03:19] <Toadisattva> aww okay
[03:20] <Toadisattva> the beta has been working great on my tester machine :)
[03:21] <Toadisattva> kudos to the buntu team
[03:22] <fareast> buntu team really has stepped their game up here in the past 10 years...
[03:22] <fareast> I am proud of those guys
[03:24] <Fleetwood> yes, they are doing a great job
[03:24] <fareast> I need a copy of quickbooks 6.0 from windows 95 so I can get this going for my business.
[03:24] <fareast> I am surprised it isn't floating around somewhere out there.
[03:25] <fareast> maybe I am being cheap but I don't do payroll I only use it to invoice and I am not paying intuit for quickbooks online to make an invoice.
[03:25] <Spookan> fareast: Have you checked www.archive.org?
[03:25] <fareast> I think so
[03:26] <fareast> I think my uncle has it somewhere in his old dusty shop in a file cabinet somewhere.
[03:26] <fareast> I taught him how to use it when I was like 12
[03:26] <fareast> until windows stopped supporting it.
[03:26] <fareast> lol
[03:27] <fareast> all the cahoots in the IT industry has really led me to a distasteful moment.
[03:27] <quidnunc> RoadRunner: Is this btrfs by any chance?
[03:27] <Fleetwood> is quicken the same as quick books?
[03:27] <fareast> not really
[03:27] <Fleetwood> ok
[03:28] <fareast> quicken is more for balancing your finances
[03:28] <fareast> checkbooks and creditcards
[03:28] <Fleetwood> old versions have some old quicken stuff
[03:28] <fareast> I should of been a quickbooks pro rep
[03:28] <SlidingHorn> folks, we're way off topic here.  Please keep this channel clear for support requests
[03:28] <fareast> I send all those guys home on opening day.
[03:28] <fareast> 10 4
[03:29] <quidnunc> If I "mv @ @-old" can I non-destructively install Ubuntu onto an existing btrfs partition?
[03:30] <RoadRunner> quidnunc: no, my disk is  lvm2 pv
[03:31] <Spookan> fareast: You have any use of quickboots pro 6.0?
[03:33] <quidnunc> RoadRunner: Okay, not sure. On btrfs metadata can fill up without the drive filling up. I'm don't know if something similar can happen on lvm. How big are your disks?
[03:33] <solitaire> arewethereyet
[03:33] <solitaire> what's the time in US now? 15:33 here
[03:35] <RoadRunner> quidnunc: the disk is 80GB and should only be ~15% full
[03:36] <RoadRunner> if there is junk, I can't find it
[03:38] <quidnunc> RoadRunner: What do you mean "should"? Why can't you use df?
[03:39] <RoadRunner> quidnunc: I did and that's what df said - look my post with pastes above
[03:39] <quidnunc> RoadRunner: For some reaon it tells me the paste is not available
[03:40] <cfhowlett> quidnunc, command | paste or command | nc termbin.com 9999      will also work
[03:40] <quidnunc> RoadRunner: Never mind it works in chrome
[03:41] <quidnunc> RoadRunner: sda1 is full
[03:41] <quidnunc> What is sda1?
[03:44] <Howie69> So, I'm not sure if this is even the correct place to ask, but...
[03:44] <cfhowlett> ubuntu support only.  if ubuntu related: ask
[03:45] <Howie69> Has anyone written about the differences and possible advantages/disadvantages of running Ubuntu server on AWS vs Google Cloud?
[03:45] <Howie69> I'm just looking for something I can read up on instead of having to ask the same questions repeatedly as I switch between the vms
[03:46] <cfhowlett> haven't seen this question addressed here but I suspect the #ubuntu-server channel could address it, Howie69
[03:47] <Howie69> cfhowlett: Ahah!  That's a good idea, thanks
[03:47] <cfhowlett> bestofluck
[03:50] <KeithWeisshar> when does ubuntu 18.04 lts release
[03:50] <L34rn3r> ubuntu 17.10 i can still create a /etc/rc.local to execute commands on startup right?
[03:50] <RoadRunner> quidnunc: my main linux partition on HD is NOT full (shown as a 71GB partition): What you are seeing is a paste of df after the comp was booted from a live CD- (sda1 is a booter) hence partition size of 472MB of which 92% is full
[03:54] <KeithWeisshar> what time zone is ubuntu located in?
[03:54] <KeithWeisshar> it's 11:54pm edt
[03:55] <cfhowlett> KeithWeisshar, come on man.  it will be released on April 26th -- when it's ready.  patience.
[03:57] <gogeta> RoadRunner, are you seeing the live cd partation
[03:58] <gogeta> RoadRunner, nevermine lol
[03:59] <Kiramo> Hello all
[04:10] <andrew_46> I am keen to beat the rush: where is the most recent iso for Bionic Beaver?
[04:10] <cfhowlett> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[04:11] <andrew_46> cfhowlett: Thanks!
[04:11] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[04:13] <L34rn3r> welp a kludge solved my problem since i could not find a oficial fix, have a good day
[04:31] <Marquezini> SlidingHorn, well, the release will be launched in this year?
[04:31] <cfhowlett> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ Marquezini
[04:32] <Marquezini> i think this will don't be launched in any time in history
[04:32] <Marquezini> cfhowlett,
[04:32] <Marquezini> i use xubuntu
[04:32] <cfhowlett>    ... and ?
[04:32] <Marquezini> the xubuntu release, is now?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> same release schedule
[04:32] <Marquezini> ok
[04:32] <Marquezini> tks god
[04:33] <Marquezini> well, now if i run do-release-upgrade it fails echoing that don't have new versions, best i wait for release a upgrade and non a new installation
[04:34] <Marquezini> i might in next days it is possible
[04:34] <Marquezini> do-release-upgrade
[04:34] <Marquezini> i run xubuntu 17.10
[04:34] <cfhowlett> won't work until 18.04.1
[04:34] <cfhowlett> so 6 months
[04:34] <Marquezini> sux
[04:35] <cfhowlett> download the .iso, make a USB and clean install.  But waiting for .1 is smarter IMO.
[04:36] <Marquezini> my system have my organization, apps, gadgets, reinstall will do only more work
[04:38] <cfhowlett> if it's that important, you should be using LTS releases only.  16.04 is the current LTS, 18.4 is the next
[04:40] <morfeu> algum br ai?
[04:41] <cfhowlett> !br | morfeu
[04:45] <Howie69> I am reading this article wrong or it is written incorrectly....
[04:45] <Howie69> Actually...
[04:45] <Howie69> I'm reading the sshd docs incorrectly.....
[04:46] <Howie69> Since when have ssh passwords been sent in cleartext?
[04:46] <Howie69> Or is it just misworded in sshd_config?
[04:47] <Howie69> Because I have always been under the impression the that initiation of an SSH client with the SSH server was encrypted itself
[04:48] <Howie69> And in theory the session negotiation did not allow anything to transmit as plain text
[04:49] <Howie69> While I understand that key pairs are safer, nothing is ever sent over plaintext like it is in telnet
[04:54] <keanne> hi. anyone knows how to japanese character support in ubuntu server? trusty in particular. Japanese characters are not displaying in the monitor.
[04:55] <keanne> i already installed language-pack-ja, language-pack-ja-base and fonts-takao-mincho
[05:03] <keanne> i already adjusted locale to ja_JP.utf8
[05:06] <keanne> is this a font issue? characters are japanese when i SSH to the server from a gnome desktop. it's only in the server's monitor wherein I cannot get japanese characters to display
[05:20] <anibic> I am not getting notification of Bionic Beaver update
[05:21] <anibic> Is it out ?
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> anibic: its not out yet
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> anibic: wich release are you on?
[05:21] <anibic> 17.10
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> !party | anibic idle there
[05:22] <Bitcrusher> Hello!
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> welcome Bitcrusher
[05:23] <Bitcrusher> can some one point me in the right channel for centos help!?
[05:23] <Bitcrusher> TIA
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Bitcrusher
[05:29] <shadow98> gufw keeps giving me segmentation fault
[05:34] <jbvsjdknbvksj> ubuntu 18.04 will use a swap file instead of partition ? What's new procedure for partition during clean install, for the "Something else" option ?
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> jbvsjdknbvksj: #ubuntu+1 for 18.04 questions please
[05:35] <jbvsjdknbvksj> ok
[05:37] <granttrec> #linux
[05:43] <tactic> Hi all. I'm having trouble with trying to install Ubuntu Server. Both 16.04 and 17.10 give me the same problem, namely, I see GRUB appear after the BIOS/UEFI loads, but when I click "Install Ubuntu", my screen goes black and doesn't come back.
[05:43] <tactic> I've done a bit of research and others have had similar issues, it seems, but the recommended advice (set the nomodeset kernel flag and remove the splash flag) doesn't seem to help
[05:44] <gogeta> jbvsjdknbvksj, leave dont make a swap partation and it will use a wapfile
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> tactic: try #ubuntu-server mate
[05:45] <gogeta> jbvsjdknbvksj, if you prefer a partation making one reverts to the old way
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> gogeta: please dont support 18.04 here
[05:47] <gogeta> lotuspsychje, thats not 18.04 only thing lol
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> gogeta: in his case it is
[05:55] <Guest44540> at what time ubuntu iso will be up?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> Guest44540: during day
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> !party | Guest44540
[05:58] <hanabishi> we have already now
[05:58] <hanabishi> oh sorry wrong chat
[05:59] <darthrocker> anyone here familiar with urxvt?
[05:59] <ducasse> darthrocker: ask your actual question, please
[06:02] <darthrocker> how do i get the urxvt (2.1) keybindings to work in ubuntu 16.04?
[06:07] <ducasse> darthrocker: keybindings for what?
[06:08] <Weasel[DK]> out
[06:10] <ccat> darthrocker: more info please
[06:13] <darthrocker> for urxvt ... i am not able to use any keyboard shortcuts.... specifically "CTRL+SHIFT+V" and the like
[06:15] <darthrocker> am i allowed to paste links in here?
[06:17] <RonaldJ> Anyone any idea how late 18.4 will be released?
[06:17] <darthrocker> https://pastebin.com/YQwMPhTL
[06:18] <Bashing-om> !party | RonaldJ
[06:18] <guiverc> RonaldJ, the 26th April  (time is not provided - it's when ready, but its only ~7:17 UK time)
[06:18] <vlt> darthrocker: /topic
[06:20] <darthrocker> copy that vlt
[06:21] <RonaldJ> thanks guiverc. I just started my workday and want to plan my work. So it would be nice to know If I can install the linux machine today or later. But I will check #ubuntu-release-party :-) Have a good one!
[06:22] <junka> whats the countdown channel
[06:22] <ducasse> !party | junka
[06:22] <junka> i will party, thank you
[06:23] <geirha> heh, that last url in that factoid is about xenial xerus release party
[06:24] <gogeta> lol
[06:26] <ccat> darthrocker: have you tried urxvt --help   ? -- man: "gives a list of all resources (long options) compiled into your version."
[06:29] <darthrocker> ccat: yes i have
[06:41] <ccat> darthrocker: what does it show?
[06:45] <fxnoob> the image for 18.04 final, when will be available on site for download?
[06:45] <darthrocker> --help just shows options and includes
[06:46] <Ben64> fxnoob: in the next 24 hours
[06:46] <fxnoob> Ben64: ty
[06:46] <darthrocker> https://pastebin.com/J6J2QMqX
[06:49] <darthrocker> i ahve also looked in -help and have found no reference to keybindings or "keyboard-slect"
[06:52] <darthrocker> just on a hunch... going to try a reboot
[06:54] <realbadhorse> [Is there anything program I could use to set the `nice` equivalent for network usage?
[06:57] <ducasse> realbadhorse: you mean traffic control? take a look at 'tc'
[06:58] <realbadhorse> I'm away from my pc at the moment. Is it built in? I would prefer something with curses
[06:58] <ducasse> realbadhorse: it's in iproute2, which is installed by default
[06:59] <darthrocker> yeah.. no luck
[07:01] <ducasse> darthrocker: i think you need to configure any keybindings you want
[07:05] <teunissenstefan> Hey, I'm trying to install rofi but I'm having some troubles. I'm getting packages not found and I can't seem to fix them. Anybody here who might be able to help me with that?
[07:05] <ducasse> teunissenstefan: pastebin your errors
[07:06] <teunissenstefan> on it
[07:06] <teunissenstefan> ducasse: https://pastebin.com/22jyLdJE
[07:06] <ccat> darthrocker: just cannot seem to find how to Display a setting
[07:07] <ducasse> teunissenstefan: why build it manually when there are packages available?
[07:08] <teunissenstefan> ducasse: On the INSTALL page it says that the one you get with apt-get is outdated I believe
[07:09] <ducasse> teunissenstefan: which release are you on?
[07:09] <teunissenstefan> ducasse: 16.04
[07:09] <teunissenstefan> ducasse: or rofi 1.5.1
[07:10] <ducasse> teunissenstefan: there's a repo available with latest version, you should be able to get the details in #rofi
[07:10] <teunissenstefan> ducasse: thanks
[07:13] <darthrocker> i'll get it figured out. it may take me a couple days. I'm off Sat, so i can devote more time then
[07:13] <darthrocker> thanks for your help
[07:13] <kris00> anyone can help me?
[07:14] <ducasse> !ask | kris00
[07:14] <ccat> darthrocker: do you want to quit for now?
[07:15] <kris00> okay so sorry
[07:16] <ccat> kris00: see? you have been helped already! :)
[07:19] <purvesh> from where I can download Stable Ubuntu 18.04 it's already 26th April ?
[07:19] <darthrocker> yeah, i am at work and have to get somethings done before end of shift
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> purvesh: its not out yet
[07:19] <ytu> hi can I ask where can I download the 18.04 bionic ?
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> !download | purvesh ytu on release
[07:20] <purvesh> lotuspsychje, when it is going to available for download It says on 26th April
[07:20] <ccat> darthrocker: do you want to quit for now?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> purvesh: yes 26 april is today..
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> ccat: what are you doing?
[07:20] <guiverc> its just after 8am in London or UST time - a lot of today hasn't happened yet
[07:22] <ccat> lotuspsychje: now sort of just idling
[07:22] <Guest92125> damnit
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> ccat: please only use this channel for support matters
[07:22] <Guest92125> is today the release of 18.04?
[07:22] <ccat> lotuspsychje: i am -- helping others
[07:22] <xdev42> yes
[07:25] <ytu> lotuspsychje: it is still beta
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> ytu: yes, final release is not out yet
[07:25] <ytu> oh ok
[07:26] <ytu> i will wait
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> !party | ytu
[07:26] <cpatrick08> technically there's no references to it being beta, but they won't say its final till the mailing list announcement is out
[07:27] <cpatrick08> by references /etc/lsb-release doesn't have it as a development version anymore.
[07:37] <Kon-> What's the timezone used on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com?
[07:40] <Tegu> Kon-: GMT, assuming it uses the same timezone as in its HTTP response headers  ("Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 07:38:21 GMT")
[07:40] <Kon-> Ah, thanks
[07:41] <quint> When I mount a LUKS encrypted disk using thunar, copying a large file seems to go directly to a cache (I think) and it quickly copies, however the actual writing to the disk is not shown in the copy dialog. Is there any way I can remove this abstraction and show the true copy progress? Or is that not supported?
[07:48] <matheo> hey
[07:49] <matheo> why I still  can't upgrade to 18 as stable version using `do-release-upgrade`
[07:49] <matheo> ?
[07:49] <Kon-> !isitoutyet
[07:49] <matheo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseAnnouncement
[07:49] <matheo> what is this ?
[07:50] <phirephly> matheo, a draft of the release announcement?
[07:50] <matheo> the release date was 26 april due to a post on itsfoss website
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> matheo: wich release are you on?
[07:50] <fofalee> hello ping site.com in that what is ttl
[07:51] <fofalee> ttl acronym
[07:51] <matheo> I am on 16.04
[07:51] <maricius> its not the 26th everywere in the world yet :P
[07:51] <phirephly> fofalee, time to live. It's the number of routers the packet went through
[07:51] <matheo> lol :D
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> matheo: then you wont get an upgrade window, we advise lts to lts upgrade in june 18.04.1
[07:52] <fofalee> how do you know time to live is the....
[07:52] <fofalee> number of routers
[07:52] <fofalee> as manual of ping says it otherwise
[07:53] <phirephly> fofalee, ah sorry, I think ping shows the remaining TTL, so it's the original TTL - the number of routers it went through
[07:54] <matheo> But why to june ? is there any problems might happen if I upgraded it ?
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> matheo: its your system, you can do what you want...
[07:54] <fofalee> hey ping -t ttl,..what's the right cmd to use the tll option
[07:55] <phirephly> fofalee, I believe the default TTL is 64, which is perfectly fine for most uses. Why are you asking?
[07:55] <fofalee> phirephly: can you give an example on how to use ping -t option
[07:56] <fofalee> just using it, and trying it
[07:56] <Pitel> traceroute uses ping with ttl in the background
[07:56] <fofalee> ping -t shows error all the time;
[07:57] <phirephly> "ping -t 2 google.com" should show "time to live exceeded"
[07:57] <phirephly> where "ping -t 200 google.com" should work
[07:58] <fofalee> but number of routers is not the unit of time... also how do you change the number of router hops, as it's dependent on the path packets take
[07:58] <oxdntrt> hi guys, thx for Ubuntu
[07:58] <phirephly> fofalee, the original concept was they'd use time, but quickly realized that was a bad idea, so it's a decrementing counter of router hops
[07:59] <oxdntrt> I'd like to know how to properly separate partition during install, I'd like to have a special partitition for the system (/root), but what do I choose for the rest ?
[07:59] <phirephly> your computer sets it to some value (usually 64?) and each router subtracts 1. The remaining TTL to any one specific site tends to stay pretty stable until some ISP changes something
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | oxdntrt
[08:00] <oxdntrt> thx
[08:01] <fofalee> ok
[08:01] <fofalee> but I still don't change the hops = 43 with the -t option, so what's it's use at all
[08:01] <fofalee> 43
[08:01] <ducasse> oxdntrt: /root is the root user's homedir, not the root fs
[08:02] <maricius> the -t options tells your computer that the packet it sends during the ping have a ttl of what ever you write after -t it dosent change how many hops/routers the trafic has to go though to reach google or whatever you are pinging
[08:03] <oxdntrt> ducasse what is the name of the partition for the system and how much space should I allocate to it please(will install office suit, firefox, gimp, smplayer)
[08:03] <phirephly> fofalee, I see what you mean. The t flag doesnt seem to do anything
[08:06] <phirephly> fofalee, hah, ok, so the reason the -t flag doesnt seem to impact the displayed remaining TTL on the results is because that's the remaining TTL on the reply
[08:07] <phirephly> so your -t flag changes the outgoing packet's TTL, but the remote server's ICMP reply is still using TTL=64 regardless
[08:07] <fofalee> do you use tmux
[08:07] <phirephly> fofalee, no.
[08:07] <ducasse> oxdntrt: the root fs is / - i'd reserve 15-20gb for it
[08:07] <phirephly> I use screen a ton, but havent happened to use tmux
[08:08] <fofalee> how many ubuntu users know programming ... not special purpose programming like bash,html but more serious ones
[08:08] <fofalee> just curious
[08:08] <fofalee> to see if I am lagging behind
[08:09] <fofalee> as I don't code, and the linux community seems to be more literate
[08:09] <maricius> You dont have to code at all to use linux, learn to code if it makes sense in your life, or if you want to learn. but its perfectly fine to use linux as a non programmer
[08:09] <pradeepbp> Is 18.04 released?
[08:09] <ducasse> !isitout
[08:10] <phirephly> !isitoutyet
[08:10] <pradeepbp> !isitout :)
[08:11] <pradeepbp> do they have any tentative time fixed for released?
[08:11] <phirephly> April 26th
[08:12] <pradeepbp> i am aware of the date. any specific time?
[08:12] <phirephly> nope. They've never been specific on time
[08:14] <Melix> Hi. Whats the command to update path to programs?
[08:14] <jpe> Melix, You mean "export PATH=something:$PATH"?
[08:15] <Melix> No.. When i type which google-chrome, then the path it shows is wrong.
[08:15] <Skotsj> or update-alternatives
[08:16] <Melix> Hmm, not that one either.
[08:17] <ducasse> Melix: to clear the remembered path, use 'hash -r'
[08:24] <geirha> use type to see what the shell will run. which's output is useless
[08:24] <geirha> type google-chrome
[08:26] <scaba> when will 18.04 come out
[08:26] <geirha> type -a google-chrome   will list all available commands by that name, in the order the shell will attempt
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> scaba: during the day
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> !party | scaba idle here
[08:26] <scaba> do you know what time its 1:26 am here
[08:27] <scaba> but its the 26th
[08:27] <scaba> ok thanks
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> scaba: its not possible to predict a time, its out when its out
[08:27] <scaba> ok thank you guys
[08:29] <Melix> geirha: Thx. good to know. I checked the path and seems ok, but i cannot start google-chrome in fluxbox. It returns no error what-so-ever..
[08:29] <Melix> Hence why i wanted to look at the execution path
[08:30] <scaba> are there any better text to speech voices than the default and mbrola
[08:30] <geirha> Melix: in that case, you'll want to confirm what PATH variable fluxbox has
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> scaba: apt-cache search speech
[08:30] <scaba> ok
[08:31] <scaba> im glad theyre using xorg instead of wayland now because wayland stuff didnt work that well
[08:31] <geirha> Melix: find fluxbox's pid and do:   tr '\0' '\n' < /proc/$pid/environ | grep ^PATH=
[08:33] <scaba> i know xorg is older but i can do stuff like turn my keyboard lights on using xset led 3 wayland i cant
[08:40] <Melix> geirha: /usr/bin/ is present in the PATH for fluxbox. So apparently another issue. It happened after apt-get upgrade yesterday. can i in any way see what was updated?
[08:41] <Fuchs> Melix: /var/log/dpkg.log
[08:42] <HoloIRCUser> Hello, this may have already been asked but... how will I know when 18.04 final is released?
[08:43] <ducasse> !isitout
[08:45] <HoloIRCUser> shall I just keep asking every hour or so? : )
[08:46] <guiverc> HoloIRCUser, a mailing list (email) goes out, if you've added yourself to that list; you'll receive an email.  web pages (wiki) etc. posts are made too
[08:46] <ducasse> !party | HoloIRCUser it's announced here
[08:46] <HoloIRCUser> thanks!
[08:51] <quint> I have a directory full of ogg vorbis files. I need to generate a cue sheet and bin file to prepare to write it to a CD. I tried using brasero, but unfortunately it doesn't support little endian format. What other tools are there to accomplish this?
[08:52] <Fuchs> k3b might be able to do it, even though I have no idea about endianess there
[08:54] <KeithWeisshar> when will ubuntu 18.04 be released?
[08:55] <Thumpxr> !party
[08:55] <quint> Fuchs: I'm on gtk. I'll just swap the endianness myself and change the sheet.
[08:56] <quint> Seems silly that in brasero they call it "audio cd" and it's literally the wrong format lol
[08:57] <quint> I don't know that the majority of CD players even support the "MOTOROLA" flag in cue sheets.
[09:07] <teta> A user on an ubuntu machine runs `curl http://google.com` Please describe in as much detail as you can the lifecycle of the command and what happens in the kernel, over the network, and on google servers before the command completes.
[09:07] <ducasse> teta: that sounds like a homework assignment
[09:08] <Norux> yeah.
[09:08] <teta> ducasse: no, I'm just asking
[09:08] <teta> dont get so offended
[09:08] <Norux> teta: ??? `man curl`
[09:08] <orangez> What for?
[09:09] <ducasse> teta: try ##linux, as it's not a support question
[09:13] <Marquezini> do-release-upgrade -d "updates for untested 18.04"
[09:28] <mdm_> Hello
[09:29] <Simooon> Hi, does anyone know of a program for setting up fan profiles?
[09:32] <Gargravarr> yay, it's release day :D
[09:33] <Exterminador> hello guys. stupid question: is it possible to remove a package, but keep it's dependencies? usually `apt remove <package>` also removes the dependencies installed (I've installed the package just because of the dependencies, so I don't need to install them one by one).
[09:33] <Exterminador> and, yay²! Bionic Beaver day!
[09:33] <Gargravarr> Exterminador: by default, if you use 'apt-get remove', it leaves the dependencies in place
[09:34] <Exterminador> hum. perhaps I'm using purge also. xD
[09:35] <Gargravarr> yes, purge would do it :)
[09:35] <Gargravarr> but there's a subtle difference between 'apt remove' and 'apt-get remove'
[09:35] <Exterminador> I use `apt remove`
[09:36] <Gargravarr> 'apt' is a user-friendly wrapper around apt-get
[09:36] <Gargravarr> (and apt-cache)
[09:38] <Exterminador> well, thanks for the info. it's just sometimes is more easier to install a package to obtain the dependencies needed for building from source.. xD
[09:38] <Gargravarr> Exterminador: apt-get build-dep
[09:38] <pc-02> hello everybody
[09:38] <Gargravarr> they've thought of this use case ;)
[09:38] <pc-02> how aere you?
[09:38] <Gargravarr> welcome pc-02
[09:38] <pc-02> thx
[09:38] <guest-Mt2Qj5> hello ^
[09:39] <Exterminador> Gargravarr: well, some of the packages that I install aren't in the repos
[09:39] <pc-02> im in a formation
[09:39] <pc-02> quelqu'un parle francais ici
[09:39] <guest-Mt2Qj5> oui
[09:39] <Gargravarr> !fr | pc-02
[09:40] <Exterminador> and matrix is down!
[09:40] <guest-Mt2Qj5> what going on?
[09:40] <Gargravarr> if you have Ubuntu support questions to ask pc-02 and guest-Mt2Qj5, please ask away
[09:41] <Gargravarr> please keep this channel to support questions. off-topic discussions should be moved to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:42] <pc-02> fine and you?
[09:42] <guest-Mt2Qj5> i'm fine
[09:54] <zaxz> at what time 18.04 stable will be released?
[09:56] <Gargravarr> zaxz: not specified yet, sometime today
[09:57] <zaxz> okay.thanks Gargravarr
[10:18] <bluewhitew> Today is the great day !  ---> Ubuntu 18.04 !!!
[10:21] <arun007> :)
[10:22] <Gargravarr> !party | bluewhitew
[10:23] <AlexPortable> I've used gnome-session-fallback / gnome-session-flashback in the past, is there still something like this in ubuntu 18.04 ?
[10:25] <arun007> I have only 2 GB RAM
[10:26] <fabio_cc> AlexPortable, there is: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/gnome-session-flashback
[10:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:34] <ht3k> where can I check for the new 18.04 download?
[10:35] <JimBuntu> !isitout
[10:35] <fabio_cc> ht3k, official link: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[10:36] <zetheroo> is the release at a certain time?
[10:36] <AlexPortable> fabio_cc: E: unable to locate package gnome-session-flashback
[10:39] <dkas> !isitout
[10:41] <lulak> 18.04 final when? :]
[10:41] <arun007> lulak: later today :)
[10:41] <AlexPortable> how do I change the default session on 18.04 ?
[10:42] <AlexPortable> and why isn't 'startup applications' integrated in the settings
[10:43] <fabio_cc> AlexPortable, strange thing, I don't know
[10:43] <AlexPortable> and how do i change dm
[10:43] <webmind> hi, my installer keeps hanging on the question on "Force UEFI installation" on my 16.04.3 LTS installation
[10:43] <Gargravarr> might technically be a question to ask in #ubuntu+1 for now
[10:44] <webmind> neither continue or go back does anything
[10:44] <Gargravarr> webmind: can you switch to a TTY? Ctrl+Alt+F1 (Ctrl+Atl+F7 to get back)
[10:45] <webmind> sure, can kill the installation
[10:45] <webmind> can open terminals
[10:45] <webmind> but when I start the installation, I get stuck there
[10:46] <Gargravarr> anything in the installer logs?
[10:46] <Cont3k> hi guys
[10:46] <mattj_> Hay Cont3k
[10:47] <sky887> !isitoutyet
[10:47] <webmind> Gargravarr: damn, 3rd time it doesn't do it.
[10:48] <Gargravarr> 3 strikes, you're out
[10:48] <Cont3k> so , when the 18.04 ll be out ?
[10:49] <webmind> Gargravarr: on the previous one there was quite some gtk_widget_set_allocation failures
[10:49] <sky887> webmind  would you like to live in the Java Runtime Environment?
[10:49] <webmind> sky887: no why?
[10:49] <Gargravarr> Cont3k: please follow #ubuntu-release-party for the run-up to release
[10:49] <sky887> Just curious
[10:50] <webmind> ok.
[10:50] <sky887> :-)
[10:50] <Gargravarr> sky887: my company practically does - our product pokes around in the JVM
[10:50] <Gargravarr> anyway
[10:50] <Gargravarr> webmind: iirc, 16.04.4 is the current release, maybe worth grabbing a new ISO?
[10:51] <webmind> Gargravarr: thanks, will do
[10:53] <Silmarilion> !isitout
[10:57] <Cont3k> thx Gargravarr
[11:04] <AlexPortable> started hold until boot process finishes up
[11:04] <AlexPortable> how do io fix this?
[11:07] <owncreator> Hey there! Anyone know when we'll get a new pretty release of Ubuntu?
[11:07] <AlexPortable> and how do i change login options on 18.04?
[11:10] <AlexPortable> i want to use gnome-session-fallback
[11:12] <Gargravarr> !party | owncreator
[11:12] <Gargravarr> AlexPortable: until 18.04 is officially released, i would recommend asking in #ubuntu+1
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> !isitoutyet
[11:16] <JimBuntu> If you want to be in the know, about when the release is being dropped, join the ubuntu-announce mail-list
[11:21] <brainwash> !isitout
[11:21] <owncreator> JimBuntu, thank you, but how I can do it?
[11:22] <JimBuntu> owncreator, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
[11:23] <owncreator> Oh, thanks
[11:23] <owncreator> 😉
[11:23] <JimBuntu> owncreator, you are welcome.
[11:30] <zetheroo> are we waiting for it to be a certain time today for the release? Or does it have to be the 26th at a certain timezone?
[11:31] <HexaByte> Hi guys. I have used ubuntu 18.04 daily build to install. I have updated it. Now that stable build is out, I wonder do I have to change apt sources now to keep it in line with stable bionic build?
[11:31] <ocholetras> Hi !!
[11:31] <ocholetras> Im trying the new 18.04 on a server
[11:32] <ocholetras> and cant get lvm partitions on installation through subiquity menu
[11:32] <ocholetras> I have created by hand the vg and lvs and boot partition
[11:32] <brainwash> HexaByte: you don't have to change anything
[11:32] <HexaByte> here is how it looks now: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/VNmK4KGZww/
[11:32] <Mutter> !isitout
[11:32] <HexaByte> brainwash: awesome. tnx
[11:32] <ocholetras> but installer wont show those
[11:33] <ocholetras> as partitions to set mount points on the new installed system
[11:42] <demonic3> hi my update manager doesn't show the 18.04 upgrade, is it normal?
[11:43] <Ben64> demonic3: yep, it's not out yet
[11:43] <demonic3> ty when it will be released?
[11:43] <BigLove> Hello guys! I have a weird bug I guess, I need to sudo update-grub after every shutdown otherwise the encryption prompt at boot will not occur
[11:43] <Ben64> some time within the next 19 hours
[11:43] <BigLove> Anybody heard about this?
[12:00] <maskeddriver> I upgraded from Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 to Ubuntu 17.10. I'm trying to kind of "vanilla" stuff out, but the gdm3 login screen still has the Ubuntu Gnome logo. I've tried removing/purging gdm, gnome-session/ubuntu-session and reinstalling, etc... but I cannot get rid of it. any thoughts?
[12:02] <leftyfb> maskeddriver: you know 18.04 (new LTS) is getting released today right?
[12:02] <maskeddriver> that's not really relevant to the question, though right?
[12:03] <fath0m> 1
[12:03] <maskeddriver> 2
[12:03] <leftyfb> I was just curious why you would upgrade an LTS release to a non-LTS release when the latest LTS is getting released the same day or days after you upgraded.
[12:03] <maskeddriver> leftyfb, I didn't say I upgraded recently
[12:04] <maskeddriver> it's actually been several months
[12:04] <sky887> I installed one of the daily builds, is it necessary to reinstall?
[12:04] <maskeddriver> I'm trying to clean things up ahead of today's release
[12:04] <antonm> Happy release day!
[12:04] <maskeddriver> and that is one of the things that has been a stickler
[12:04] <fath0m> it is not, with apt upgrade and update you will eventually get to the current LTS
[12:05] <maskeddriver> I messed with it for a few days after moving to 17.10, gave up, and now I'm revisiting it
[12:05] <JimBuntu> maskeddriver, Have you looked in /usr/share/gdm/greeter-settings ?
[12:05] <ak002> can i use latest  version of chrome in ubuntu 32 bit variant
[12:05] <sky887> The devs owe themselves a good party
[12:05] <fath0m> [2]
[12:05] <maskeddriver> JimBuntu, I don't have that file
[12:06] <sky887> Great job!
[12:06] <minimec> maskeddriver: Verify that 'plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo' is installed. If it is, do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo'. I think it also handles the gdm theme.
[12:06] <anibic> Has anyone received the 18.04 yet ?
[12:06] <antonm> I havn't
[12:07] <Gargravarr> anibic: still pending, please follow #ubuntu-release-party for further updates
[12:07] <guiverc> sky887, (not sure if answered); but normal updates will turn your daily.build into final 18.04
[12:07] <fath0m> isn't official release on 29th?
[12:07] <Gargravarr> fath0m: no, official release is today
[12:07] <JimBuntu> fath0m, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[12:07] <anibic> I am already logged in there
[12:08] <fath0m> oh damn, pardon my ignorance :)
[12:08] <Gargravarr> then please keep comments concerning Bionic to the other channel so we can continue Ubuntu support in here :)
[12:08] <maskeddriver> I wonder if purging that and then reinstalling might fix it?
[12:08] <Gargravarr> maskeddriver: iirc there is a 'greeter-icons' package
[12:09] <Gargravarr> try searching for that
[12:09] <maskeddriver> brb, going to restart
[12:09] <maskeddriver> see if minimec's suggestion worked
[12:10] <sky887> guiverc, thanks!
[12:11] <draget> The current ubiquity installer (Kubuntu 18.04 daily live image) does not allow setting a username with a dot. I.e. 'draget.foo' is not valid. Is this intended or a bug?
[12:11] <walou> teste de xehchat
[12:13] <maskeddriver> minimec, that didn't work, but I think you might have misunderstood, now that I realize what you suggested. I had already updated plymouth. It's not the splash screen on boot. At the bottom of the greeter on the logon screen there is a big logo that says "Ubuntu Gnome"
[12:15] <maskeddriver> minimec, it's like there is something like this: https://people.gnome.org/~pmkovar/system-admin-guide/login-logo.html
[12:15] <maskeddriver> but there isn't actually anything there
[12:15] <ChunkzZ> !isitoutyet
[12:16] <guiverc> draget, your question maybe should be on #ubuntu+1, but I think a bit late to ask there.  I just created a user with name.more so its valid (i tested), i'd suggest raising a bug on launchpad
[12:17] <minimec> maskeddriver: I think I did understand you. If you go to '/usr/share/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-gnome-logo' you will see (at least in 16.04) that there files like 'password_filed.png'. That's why my impression was, that the plymouth theme also handles the gdm login screen.
[12:17] <Gargravarr> draget: this is the same for current LTS as well, by default Ubuntu does not permit usernames with a dot in them
[12:18] <guiverc> oops - my bad Gargravarr & dragnet (who must have gone)
[12:19] <maskeddriver> minimec, I do see the ubuntu-gnome_logo.png file in there
[12:19] <maskeddriver> is there an alternative setting for plymouth theme?
[12:19] <minimec> maskeddriver: Oh... That could be for encrypted drives that need a password to continue the boot process. Forget everything I said... lol
[12:19] <maskeddriver> minimec, no I think you're right
[12:20] <maskeddriver> I see the logo right there
[12:20] <maskeddriver> right next to it is "ubuntu-logo.png"
[12:20] <Gargravarr> guiverc: it depends how you create the user. 'useradd' doesn't care. 'adduser' applies a regex to the username. i assume Ubiquity builds on top of 'adduser'
[12:20] <minimec> maskeddriver: Did you once 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm'?
[12:20] <maskeddriver> inside of themes there is "ubuntu-gnome-logo" "ubuntu-gnome-text" "ubuntu-logo" "ubuntu-text"
[12:21] <maskeddriver> minimec, would a purge and reinstall of gdm do that?
[12:21] <maskeddriver> because I completely got rid of everything gnome/gdm related and reinstalled them
[12:21] <guiverc> yeah useradd (old unix commands) was how i 'tested'...
[12:22] <minimec> maskeddriver: removing gdm would maybe even remove the whole GUI. I guess you don't want that. dpkg-reconfigure will do...
[12:22] <maskeddriver> minimec, what I'm saying is that I did completely remove the entire GUI
[12:22] <maskeddriver> wayland, xorg
[12:22] <maskeddriver> everything
[12:22] <maskeddriver> lol
[12:22] <maskeddriver> and reinstalled it
[12:23] <maskeddriver> not just "remove"
[12:23] <maskeddriver> but "purge"
[12:23] <Gargravarr> maskeddriver: please reinstall the universe and reboot
[12:23] <Gargravarr> ah, yes, be careful about that ^
[12:24] <maskeddriver> I tried everything to just have "Ubuntu" at the bottom of that darn greeter lol
[12:26] <maskeddriver> my update-alternatives --config default.plymouth is already going to ubuntu-logo.plymouth
[12:26] <maskeddriver> even though I think the ubuntu-gnome logo is very pretty
[12:28] <Gargravarr> maskeddriver: swap out the images? probably the quickest win
[12:28] <maskeddriver> lol hacky
[12:28] <maskeddriver> I like it
[12:28] <maskeddriver> wonder if that'll do it
[12:29] <Gargravarr> hacky, but if you've tried everything, then it's time to revert to hacks :)
[12:29] <maskeddriver> lol, indeed
[12:29] <maskeddriver> brb gonna test it
[12:31] <draget> guiverc: The /etc/adduser.conf does indeed container a regex for NAME_REGEX which does not include a dot.
[12:31] <maskeddriver> lol that worked
[12:31]  * draget hops to ubuntu+1
[12:31] <maskeddriver> now I just need to search my filesystem for some something that is referencing that ubuntu-gnome_logo.png and fix it
[12:32] <Cheez> lsof might help
[12:32] <maskeddriver> yeah
[12:33] <maskeddriver> I know HOW to do it, I'm just annoyed that it took me this long to realize it was something this system
[12:33] <maskeddriver> simple*
[12:33] <maskeddriver> here I am completely reinstalling guis and I could just overwrite a file
[12:33] <maskeddriver> i had no idea gdm3 greeter and and plymouth were related
[12:34] <maskeddriver> for some reason I was under the impression that plymouth was almost exclusively used for the splash screen
[12:35] <k0nsole> nobody here :(
[12:35] <DaFooYou> i am here
[12:35] <antonm> Hi k0nsole
[12:35] <k0nsole> Hey
[12:35] <SlidingHorn> k0nsole: have an ubuntu support question?
[12:35] <k0nsole> Actually, Yes.
[12:36] <Gargravarr> !ask | k0nsole
[12:37] <k0nsole> My wi-fi is extremely unstable, I've replaced firmware-6.bin & board-2.bin & restarted but it still seems to be pretty up and down
[12:37] <k0nsole> any suggestions?
[12:37] <Gargravarr> k0nsole: what hardware/OS/drivers are you using?
[12:38] <k0nsole> I'm running ubuntu 17.10, in terms of hardware did you want PC specs or wifi specific?
[12:39] <Gargravarr> wifi card will do
[12:40] <SlidingHorn> k0nsole: firmware-6.bin & board-2.bin?
[12:40] <k0nsole> I have 07:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 8265 / 8275 (rev 78)
[12:41] <BlueShark> How much time until the next Ubuntu release?
[12:41] <Gargravarr> oh joy, i had a feeling you'd be running the 8265. what kernel version?
[12:41] <Silmarilion> !isitout
[12:41] <antonm> BlueShark, any moment now
[12:41] <BlueShark> when will it be out?
[12:41] <Gargravarr> BlueShark: please follow #ubuntu-release-party for udpates
[12:43] <k0nsole>  4.13.0-39-generic
[12:44] <loru> Hi everyone. Is 18.04 out or not yet?
[12:45] <geirha> not yet
[12:45] <k0nsole> I'm fairly new to Ubuntu previously using windows with an Ericsson OSS for work
[12:46] <k0nsole> Sorry If I'm slow to get information, I'm scrolling through a text editor to find the commands
[12:46] <Gargravarr> k0nsole: no worries. i have seen a lot of issues with the 8265 on current kernels
[12:47] <Gargravarr> unfortunately i never solved them. i replaced the card with an older 8260 and dropped my kernel down to 4.4
[12:47] <Gargravarr> there are some suggestions that the current Intel-provided drivers are broken in the mainline kernel
[12:47] <k0nsole> i wish I could, It's an onboard card
[12:48] <nikhilweee> when can I upgrade to 18.04? I mean what time? `do-release-upgrade` still doesn't show any updates. :(
[12:48] <Gargravarr> that's frequently not the case, i haven't seen laptops with the cards actually built in yet. they're generally on a replaceable daughterboard
[12:49] <Gargravarr> nikhilweee: please follow #ubuntu-release-party for updates
[12:49] <k0nsole> I'm using a desktop
[12:49] <Gargravarr> ...ah
[12:49] <k0nsole> Gigabyte z270 mobo
[12:50] <Gargravarr> k0nsole: this is where i got to: https://askubuntu.com/questions/997400/intel-8265-wifi-card-destabilises-system-16-04-w-hwe-kernel
[12:50] <adrian_1908> k0nsole: If you're not connected via IPv6, I've heard that setting IPv6 to ignore in Network Manager has helped some users with wifi disconnects. Not sure if that's an outdated hack though.
[12:50] <Gargravarr> there is a linked forum thread with more diagnostic info
[12:51] <k0nsole> Gargravarr: Thanks
[12:52] <k0nsole> adrian_1908: I'll give it a go
[12:52] <k0nsole> The link where I got the information to replace a couple of files was here.
[12:52] <k0nsole> https://askubuntu.com/questions/967355/wifi-unstable-after-17-10-update
[12:52] <k0nsole> My pc isn't unstable, It's just the wifi
[12:52] <AtuM> is it out yet?
[12:52] <adrian_1908> AtuM: no.
[12:52] <brainwash> !isitout
[12:53] <lezsakdomi> Hi!
[12:53] <AtuM> !isitout
[12:53] <AtuM> :)
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> k0nsole  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5Q7nXQYVbN/
[12:54] <FatihArda> Hi!
[12:57] <k0nsole> MonkeyDust: Thank you I'll give it a go
[12:57] <k0nsole> a question for all of you, is there a terminal guide that I could read and try learn commands from?
[12:58] <k0nsole> Command - Functionality style
[12:58] <thalos> Hi! Does anyone know when 18.04 will be released? Will it be soon or a couple of hours? or has the release date been pushed? Does April 26 mean "US time?", so we have to wait untill the US wakes up? :D
[12:58] <Gargravarr> k0nsole: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
[12:58] <ChunkzZ> thalos: when it's "ready" !
[12:59] <thalos> :D
[12:59] <Managor> well dammit
[12:59] <Gargravarr> thalos: please follow #ubuntu-release-party for updates
[12:59] <minimec> k0nsole: Tehre are many... https://www.google.com/search?hl=de&source=hp&biw=1051&bih=805&q=bash%20for%20dummies&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=
[12:59] <thalos> minimec: thanks!
[12:59] <k0nsole> I thank you for your assistance
[13:01] <Bloviogot> hi
[13:01] <lapaga> k0nsole, there are several youtube video's also
[13:03] <k0nsole>  lapaga, thank you
[13:05] <EriC^^> k0nsole: the tdlp linux admin guide and gnu command line summary are good too
[13:05] <asy178> `åÁÐWkK0O3I0
[13:06] <asy178> `åÿÐWkÞÄ0sÜÎõq8k6
[13:06] <asy182> `¸ÿÐWfQÄjWÂ
[13:06] <Gargravarr> asy178: please don't clean your keyboard in this channel...
[13:07] <asy15> `åÁÐWg5ôòÎntÄÙ
[13:07] <asy15> `åÿÐWekôdÍÜWòpÌ×Ø3ÎÂ
[13:07] <asy15> `¸ÿÐWhïw12Â
[13:07] <asy15> `æÁÐWjgÀ
[13:07] <asy19> `æÿÐWjÃiÐG0
[13:08] <asy19> `çÁÐWiÂæml0
[13:08] <EriC^^> !ru | asy19
[13:08] <asy19> `çÿÐWfárxÌÂ
[13:08] <Thumpxr> !party
[13:09] <Gargravarr> EriC^^: doesn't seem like Russian to me, seems like someone mangling ASCII...
[13:10] <EriC^^> yeah, i was hoping it would help him or something cause his ip ends in .ru
[13:10] <Gargravarr> ah, good spot
[13:11] <EriC^^> seems like he's just testing his bot or something :D
[13:11] <asy241> `åÁÐWkK0Oð9àtÉ
[13:11] <EriC^^> speak of the devil
[13:11]  * Gargravarr summons the BanHammer
[13:11] <asy245> `åÿÐWkÞ7×tî÷9ïC¨ÙÙìôèÂ
[13:11] <Gargravarr> !ops
[13:12] <Gargravarr> did not expect THAT
[13:13] <Gargravarr> Pitel: much appreciated, thanks
[13:13] <Gargravarr> guh, missed
[13:13] <Pici> np ;)
[13:14] <maison> hi
[13:14] <maison> imfirst time using ubuntu system
[13:15] <maison> need some help
[13:15] <Gargravarr> maison: welcome. how can we help you?
[13:15] <minimec> maison: COngrats and good timing for 18.04 ;)
[13:16] <maison> iwant download driuver for my dell
[13:16] <Gargravarr> maison: you shouldn't need any specific drivers, what do you need to get working?
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> maison  what are you trying to do
[13:16] <maison> its slow
[13:16] <arun007> !ask | maison
[13:16]  * StrangeNoises has 18.04 running on an XPS 13 9370. No special drivers needed. Not even for thunderbolt 3.
[13:16] <Gargravarr> drivers will not help with slowness
[13:16] <maison> not same in windows
[13:17] <StrangeNoises> dell push the work they do upstream, so it's all there.
[13:17] <Gargravarr> maison: please provide us with some more information - what version of Ubuntu are you using, what spec is your computer etc.
[13:17] <maison> driver nothelp ./§§§
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> maison  what is slow? your browser? the entire system?
[13:17] <StrangeNoises> don't think we're getting anything lucid there
[13:17] <StrangeNoises> (not a pun)
[13:17] <maison> ubuntu mate
[13:18] <maison> peitium ht
[13:18] <maison> dell optilex gx270
[13:18] <Gargravarr> is English not your native language? if not, there are support channels in other languages, if that would help
[13:18] <maison> 1.5g ram
[13:19] <maison>  hardriver 122+80g
[13:19] <minimec> maison: In case that there are some specific drivers for your graphics card for example, you can execute 'sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall'. That will install some available drivers. Source: https://askubuntu.com/a/9465
[13:19] <maison> peintium 4 HT
[13:19] <Gargravarr> sorry to say, a Pentium HT with 1.5GB of RAM will be slow with a modern OS. unless you were using Windows 7 (or XP), the performance... oh boy
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> maison  try a lighter DE,  Lubuntu, Xubuntu...
[13:19] <Gargravarr> Pentium 4
[13:20] <maison> iusewindows 7 veryfast noproblem
[13:20] <cebor> !isitout
[13:20] <hufferinho> aloha! any news on the Beaver release?
[13:20] <Gargravarr> hufferinho: please follow #ubuntu-release-party for updates
[13:20] <maison> but otheros not fast
[13:21] <hufferinho> danke @Gargravarr
[13:21] <maison> i tested alot elementary
[13:21] <maison> i tested alot elementary
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> maison  your pc is too old for any recent OS
[13:21] <maison> unbuntu mint fastlettel bit
[13:21] <minimec> maison: Indeed that machine has some age. Ubuntu mate 32bit will work ok and still has a pleasing interface. https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/03/ubuntu-mate-18-04
[13:22] <maison> any way
[13:22] <Gargravarr> sorry maison, but the Pentium 4 is a very old processor and basically obsolete. there isn't much we can do to eek out any more performance of your computer. you would expect the same slowness from Windows 10
[13:22] <maison> any way thinks
[13:22] <minimec> maison: ElementaryOS is faster and lighter than ubuntu but still uses the same underlaying gnome base software. So Ubuntu mate will be better suited for your machine, I guess.
[13:23] <maison> ihavedual core laptop
[13:23] <maison> 1.8g+2ram+100gb hdd
[13:23] <Gargravarr> that would probably run modern Ubuntu much better
[13:24] <nullius> maybe even ubuntu with the xfce gui
[13:24] <maison> is elementary system is complet
[13:24] <minimec> maison: I runned Ubuntu mate 17.10 on a PentiumM laptop with 1GB RAM. The experience is not that great for web browsing for example, but for basic work it does work well.
[13:24] <Norux> nullius: rather lxde
[13:24] <maison> no nulium with gnome fastmore
[13:25] <maison> i tested
[13:25] <JHOSMAN> #ubuntu-release
[13:25] <nullius> lxde is pretty light
[13:25] <maison> unbuntu lxde?
[13:25] <maison> complete name?
[13:26] <Gargravarr> maison: also known as Lubuntu
[13:26] <nullius> maison, lubuntu
[13:26] <maison> ok
[13:26] <maison> thanks gay
[13:27] <maison> ihavesomequestion
[13:27] <maison> can i?
[13:27] <arun007> !ask | maison
[13:27] <maison> hhhh
[13:27] <maison> oookk
[13:28] <maison> i want access tomydesktop bynet
[13:28] <maison> not in local
[13:28] <Gargravarr> you can use Remmina for RDP access
[13:28] <maison> what ineed to install in unbuintu??
[13:28] <Gargravarr> it is installed by default (i think?)
[13:29] <maison> remina yes isee it in laptop
[13:29] <maison> itgive acces frommymobile?
[13:29] <na2s> I just installed 18.04 desktop on a machine.  Can I enable remote desktop if I am only currently able to SSH to the machine? (e.g. not possible to log in locally and enable screen sharing in the GUI.)
[13:29] <Gargravarr> that is what you need. you will need to open System Properties in Windows and make sure 'Remote Access' is enabled, and then you can connect to your desktop on the same network
[13:30] <Norux> !ubuntu+1 | na2s
[13:30] <Gargravarr> we cannot help you with remote access from the internet
[13:30] <maison> samenetwork?not by net
[13:30] <maison> internet
[13:30] <maison> ok howdowith internet access
[13:31] <maison> i have created no-ip compte
[13:31] <sky887> !itsprobablyoutsoon
[13:31] <Gargravarr> maison: sorry, this channel is for Ubuntu support. this question is not related to Ubuntu, so we cannot really help you
[13:31] <maison> andforward porto n router
[13:31] <minimec> na2s: You can even 'ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-X' and run a GUI program that is installed on the remote machine.
[13:31] <maison> iforword ports
[13:31] <sky887> !isitoutyet
[13:32] <Gargravarr> maison: there are many guides on the internet for setting up RDP from the internet, they will help you more than we can
[13:32] <maison> ok
[13:32] <maison>  thanksyou all
[13:32] <maison> iwillserach
[13:33] <imfearless> Ubuntu 18.04 releasing at noon EST/EDT?
[13:33] <imfearless> I'm able to upgrade from the beta to the LTS version already
[13:33] <Gargravarr> imfearless: please follow #ubuntu-release-party for updates
[13:33] <imfearless> ;ok
[13:34] <outoftime> I can not update apt. After selecting OS in grub I have long journal recovery screen. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dFHDzwPhn7/
[13:34] <krosonp> !isitout
[13:34] <krosonp> Ok, can't wait :D
[13:35] <Gargravarr> outoftime: what happens if you run the command there?
[13:35] <minimec> outoftime: Read line 4 --> 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[13:36] <pragmaticenigma> outoftime: did you attempt running the recommended command in the error message?
[13:36] <outoftime> dmesg https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kgNhr6tK9m/
[13:36] <outoftime> dpkg: error: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system
[13:36] <pragmaticenigma> krosonp: Please follow #ubuntu-release-party for updates and official release time
[13:37] <pragmaticenigma> outoftime: Are you in recovery mode when you are running apt update?
[13:37] <outoftime> pragmaticenigma: no
[13:37] <krosonp> pragmaticenigma: Yea I know, I haven't been here in release days for quite a few years, feel somewhat nostalgic haha
[13:38] <pragmaticenigma> outoftime: You mentioned a long log of jouranl recovery? is there anything in your logs about it?
[13:38] <outoftime> Gargravarr: dpkg: error: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system
[13:38] <outoftime> minimec: dpkg: error: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system
[13:40] <Gargravarr> okay. this may be unsafe, but i assume a bad upgrade has caused your machine to go into Recovery mode
[13:40] <Gargravarr> use these commands:
[13:40] <Gargravarr> mount -o remount,rw /
[13:40] <pragmaticenigma> NO! don't do that
[13:40] <pragmaticenigma> Gargravarr: stop
[13:40] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: okay
[13:40] <minimec> outoftime: Ok. So in recovery mode, verify that you enable the network. Then on the root console you normally only have a REAd-ONLY system. you have to do 'mount -o remount,rw /'
[13:41] <Gargravarr> outoftime: please don't follow my advice
[13:41] <pragmaticenigma> minimec: Gargravarr, you are both potentially missing a key piece of evidence
[13:41] <pragmaticenigma> On boot, outoftime said there was a long journal recovery took place
[13:41] <unrecovered> h0i there! i have a "failed to start session" issue with lightdm, where can i find its log files to search for solution?
[13:42] <pragmaticenigma> The system is in readonly to protect it from further corruptionm
[13:42] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: ah, good spot
[13:42] <outoftime> pragmaticenigma: right, there was line about journal recovery with number of files and blocks to recover
[13:42] <Gargravarr> unrecovered: /var/log/syslog should contain something
[13:42] <SlidingHorn> unrecovered: ~/.xsession-errors  /var/log/syslog  /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[13:43] <pragmaticenigma> outoftime: You're machine is in a state for backing up any critical files. Get your important files backed up to an external drive before you continue any further
[13:43] <unrecovered> thanks
[13:43] <outoftime> pragmaticenigma: syslog https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/82yHfnpfKj/
[13:44] <Jay_ei> What is expected time for new release?
[13:44] <SlidingHorn> Jay_ei: please see #ubuntu-release-party for updates
[13:44] <Gargravarr> outoftime: yes, ther eare hardware failures from your hard drive. you need to back up your files
[13:44] <aLeSD_> hi all
[13:44] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: thanks for stopping me, that could have gone badly
[13:44] <aLeSD_> how could I manually generate the encrypted password in /etc/shadow ?
[13:44] <pragmaticenigma> outoftime: Your harddrive is either failing or has failed. You need to back up the drive, before you lose anymore files
[13:44] <outoftime> Gargravarr: errors occur only for HDD, with not important iformation
[13:45] <Gargravarr> aLeSD_: man crypt
[13:45] <outoftime> pragmaticenigma: sdb - SSD, sda - HDD
[13:45] <Gargravarr> outoftime: if your important files are on a different disk, you should assume your main HDD has failed
[13:45] <pragmaticenigma> I've got a meeting... I'll be back in a while
[13:46] <rajivmars> hello guys! when will ubuntu 18.04 released?
[13:46] <aLeSD_> openssl passwd -1 -salt xyz  ciaociao
[13:46] <Gargravarr> aLeSD_: not a terminal :)
[13:46] <ducasse> rajivmars: when it's done
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> rajivmars  any moment now
[13:46] <teward> rajivmars: when it's ready to be released.  (Please don't ask, and just be patient.)
[13:46] <EriC^^> aLeSD_: why would you want to do that?
[13:47] <rajivmars> ok
[13:47] <katnip> you guys remember the name of the device that fits in the dvd drive and serves as a ssd or hdd, scond drive?
[13:47] <outoftime> Gargravarr: I suppose in /var there are nothing important https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YKZSktq9tx/
[13:47] <outoftime> pragmaticenigma: fstab above
[13:47] <EriC^^> katnip: you mean slave?
[13:48] <Cheez> katnip: usually ive only seen that as a simple hard drive adaptor.
[13:48] <katnip> i dont think so
[13:48] <Cheez> just puts extra bars down the side of a hard drive so that it screws into a 5.25" slot
[13:48] <katnip> i mean a laptop, sorry
[13:48] <Gargravarr> katnip: sled
[13:49] <katnip> hmmm sled
[13:49] <Cheez> oh, i see. caddy is what i would search for in that instance
[13:49] <outoftime> Gargravarr: my "main" supposed to be SSD...
[13:49] <Gargravarr> outoftime: /var contains mostly log files and caches, it is not important unless you run a webserver or similar
[13:50] <outoftime> Gargravarr: I'm using docker for development in order to take my machine clean
[13:50] <Gargravarr> outoftime: if your development files are on your SSD, it will be fine to lose /var since the images can be rebuilt easily
[13:52] <outoftime> Gargravarr: do you know what files contains /var/lib/apt and /var/lib/git ?
[13:53] <Gargravarr> katnip: most laptop brands have their own term for it, but the general term is 'sled' for devices that allow you to fit a HDD/SSD in the optical drive bay
[13:53] <Gargravarr> outoftime: they are not important files and will be recreated when you reinstall Ubuntu
[13:53] <rajivmars> i have just bought a new laptop. that's why i am eagerly waiting for the release. haha! that's why i asked. sorry for not being patient.
[13:53] <Karesz> hungary?
[13:54] <outoftime> Gargravarr: oh shit, should I?
[13:54] <Cheez> katnip: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Universal-Optical-Laptops-SAMSUNG-TOSHIBA/dp/B008KS6V0W searching for caddy got me one of these
[13:54] <Gargravarr> outoftime: you will need to replace the HDD, and then reinstall Ubuntu onto the new one
[13:55] <Gargravarr> you probably won't even be able to clone the original HDD since it's throwing hardware errors
[13:56] <outoftime> Gargravarr: khm, root "/" on my SSD, didn't get it why reinstalling required.
[13:56] <outoftime> Gargravarr: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YKZSktq9tx/
[13:56] <Gargravarr> outoftime: er hang on, is /dev/sda your SSD or your HDD?
[13:57] <outoftime> Gargravarr: lsblk https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nhxKT57cKd/
[13:57] <outoftime> pragmaticenigma: lsblk https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nhxKT57cKd/
[13:58] <bodie_> I'm trying to figure out how to set up a systemd user unit
[13:58] <bodie_> when I try to run systemd --user enable, I get "failed to connect to bus"
[13:58] <bodie_> I don't think systemd is running for my user.
[13:59] <Gargravarr> outoftime: i see, so the large HDD is mounted at /var. you won't need to reinstall then. i assumed sda was your boot disk
[13:59] <bodie_> I'm on ubuntu 17.10 x64
[13:59] <r2q2> So excited for ubuntu 18.04
[13:59] <Gargravarr> bodie_: are you running that command as root?
[13:59] <bodie_> no
[13:59] <Gargravarr> that'd be why, afaik
[13:59] <outoftime> Gargravarr: I have bought SSD primarly for linux to speed up compilation etc.
[13:59] <rajivmars> r2q2, i as well.
[14:00] <Gargravarr> outoftime: okay. you should assume all the data in /var is unrecoverable, but that should be the limit of the damage
[14:00] <bodie_> Gargravarr, doesn't work as root either
[14:00] <Gargravarr> systemd is definitely running, because it's what supports the entire OS :)
[14:00] <bodie_> I want to enable a unit from ~/.config/systemd/user
[14:00] <Gargravarr> okay, i don't know enough about systemd to help any further
[14:00] <bodie_> ok
[14:03] <Seveas> bodie_: which Ubuntu version?
[14:03] <bodie_> 17.10 x64
[14:03] <outoftime> Gargravarr: do you know what to do? How to generate "fresh" /var with correct journal ?
[14:04] <kokoye2007> ubuntu is still not release ?
[14:04] <_flood> is there going to be a release party?
[14:04] <Seveas> bodie_: It's only been very recently that Ubuntu switch to systemd user sessions instead of upstart (system init was changed much longer ago). I'm not even sure if 17.10 had systemd user sessions (I've been on 18.04 for a long time)
[14:04] <Gargravarr> _flood: #ubuntu-release-party
[14:04] <_flood> Gargravarr: thx!!
[14:04] <sud0x3> bodie_: doe systemd pick up units from ~/.config/systemd, or did you have to specify that manually
[14:04] <Seveas> bodie_: is there a `systemd --user` process on your system?
[14:05] <katnip> Cheez, thank you!
[14:05] <Gargravarr> outoftime: if you want to replace the HDD, you will need to recreate the /var filesystem: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1085517
[14:06] <Gargravarr> however, the one thing that IS important on /var is the APT database which contains the details of every package installed on the machine
[14:06] <boboma> Hello. If there's any ubuntu-devs here: installing gnome-boxes does not add the user to the kvm group. That makes it impossible to start any machine then.
[14:07] <Gargravarr> you may want to try copying /var/lib/apt to a different drive, but be prepared for copy errors
[14:07] <boboma> not user friendly at all!
[14:07] <Gargravarr> boboma: please file a bug report on Launchpad for gnome-boxes
[14:09] <boboma> Gargravarr, i don't think so. Filed another one a week ago. No reaction.
[14:09] <boboma> Have better things to do
[14:11] <ducasse> boboma: not a great attitude if you want things to get fixed
[14:11] <boboma> ducasse, I want the thing fixed but if there's no reaction on the bug reports i make why bothering?
[14:12] <Gargravarr> boboma: try posting the bug report here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=gnome-boxes
[14:12] <sud0x3> boboma: No doubt you will have time to argue why you dont have time to post your bug in the correct place. Maybe they too are busy.
[14:12] <ducasse> boboma: not all bug reports receive the same amount of attention
[14:13] <bodie_> hmm, doesn't look like it Seveas
[14:13] <bodie_> do you know how to enable it?
[14:14] <SlidingHorn> He didn't file a bug
[14:15] <ducasse> he had time to complain, though
[14:15] <bodie_> lol
[14:17] <sud0x3> bodie_: Does your user unit depend on any system units?
[14:18] <Seveas> bodie_: unfortunately the answer to that is 'upgrade to 18.04' :)
[14:18] <bodie_> that's unfortunate since I'm running on a hosted vm :P
[14:18] <bodie_> I guess I could take my chances with a dist-upgrade
[14:19] <bodie_> sud0x3, I don't think there's a systemd session for my user
[14:19] <jgauthier> hi, I need some help diagnosing strange fan issues on my Dell XPS 9560
[14:19] <bodie_> Seveas, this isn't something that can be adjusted in the systemd-logind config?
[14:20] <Seveas> bodie_: nope, that goes much deeper.
[14:20] <Seveas> an upgrade to 18.04 is safe. I've upgraded all my boxes months ago already
[14:20] <bodie_> ugh.  okay, is there a way to safely configure a service to run for my user on startup?
[14:20] <bodie_> as my user
[14:20] <bodie_> znc in particular
[14:21] <bodie_> they want me to use cron.  I don't want to use cron or startup dirs
[14:21] <akay> bodie_: you need a service file for ZNC?
[14:21] <bodie_> I guess I can just put the systemd service in the global config path and trust the root startup to do the right thing.
[14:21] <sud0x3> you should be able to put that information in the unit file
[14:21] <bodie_> I just want it to run on startup as my user
[14:21] <bodie_> safely
[14:21] <akay> i can send you my service file
[14:21] <bodie_> sure
[14:21] <akay> you can specify the user to start it
[14:21] <bodie_> and that's secure enough?
[14:21] <bodie_> since isn't it still procced by root
[14:22] <akay> yes?
[14:22] <akay> no its not
[14:22] <akay> test it out
[14:22] <akay> https://gist.github.com/dejavueakay/878f5e5bf5314095faaf0f5069c9867f
[14:22] <sud0x3> so long as other users cant modify the service file it should be safe
[14:23] <Seveas> bodie_: you don't need a user service to run something as a user. Just add a User statement in the service. Lots of services are run this way
[14:23] <Seveas> $ grep ^User *.service
[14:23] <Seveas> (etc...)
[14:23] <Seveas> colord.service:User=colord
[14:23] <Seveas> geoclue.service:User=geoclue
[14:23] <bodie_> what's the point of user services then, just to let unprivileged users create their own local services?
[14:23] <akay> works great on my machine
[14:23] <akay> exactly bobdobbs`
[14:23] <akay> bodie_*, sry
[14:23] <bodie_> lol
[14:25] <ChunkzZ> !isitoutyet
[14:25] <bodie_> akay, if you run that as your user, it'll also automatically use the user's home directory?
[14:25] <akay> exactly bodie_
[14:25] <bodie_> ok
[14:26] <bodie_> why -f?
[14:26] <bodie_> is that so the child process is owned by the service?
[14:26] <akay> systemd wants it in foreground instead of forking
[14:26] <akay> yes
[14:26] <bodie_> ok
[14:26] <bodie_> cool, thanks akay :)
[14:26] <akay> you're welcome :) systemd service file handling is just so much easier than init.d
[14:27] <akay> if you get the hang once, you can write a service for literally anything in less than 2 minutes
[14:27] <bodie_> looks like it worked akay :P
[14:28] <Whiskey> Why is not ubuntu 18:04 released yet
[14:28] <Whiskey> Was it not today?`
[14:29] <akay> Whiskey: they're actively working on a bug regarding ubuntu live session
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> Whiskey  any moment now, have patience
[14:29] <bodie_> what's the biggest of big deals about 18.04 anyway?
[14:29] <sud0x3> Whats the rush :)
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> akay  'today' depends on the timezone you're in
[14:29] <tnss> it is a big change for lts users
[14:30] <tnss> Canonical is England-based
[14:30] <bodie_> mm, yeah all the CUDA developer stuff and whatnot is lts only
[14:30] <akay> MonkeyDust: where did i refer to today?
[14:30] <Whiskey> Well, i am on 14:04 i think :D
[14:30] <MoL0ToV> when is planned to release the 18.04LTS?
[14:30] <sky887> It's an upgrade - what about it?
[14:30] <bodie_> but I mean what are the most significant feature changes?
[14:30] <Whiskey> so its time to update :D
[14:30] <tnss> it is out, but the isos aren't finished
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> akay  that was for Whiskey, sorry
[14:31] <bodie_> if i'm running 18.04 in prerelease, is there anything I need to do to update for the release?
[14:31] <brainwash> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes
[14:31] <harris> happy release day everyone!
[14:31] <sud0x3> bodie_: Change of desktop environment is a major change
[14:31] <tnss> not if you're an interim user
[14:31] <brainwash> bodie_: I suggest reading the release notes
[14:31] <AppleTor> anyone know how to use proxy on ubuntu?
[14:32] <AppleTor> via shell
[14:32] <Whiskey> i only use the server version :D
[14:32] <AppleTor> Whiskey were you talking to me?
[14:32] <sud0x3> Whiskey: you wont see much of a difference then
[14:32] <AppleTor> oh nvm :/
[14:32] <Whiskey> Not sure who i talking to :D
[14:33] <sud0x3> AppleTor: proxy set in network manager should be global to your system
[14:33] <Whiskey> anyways im off, just relax and wait for update the VM then :D
[14:33] <AppleTor> let me try
[14:33] <sud0x3> unles you have the option in browser only selected
[14:34] <AppleTor> nonono, it's alright to be system wide
[14:34] <harris> what time do you think the iso will be release
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> harris  any moment now, have patience
[14:35] <AppleTor> internet and network -> network proxy?
[14:36] <tnss> it is 3:30 in Canonical (British) time
[14:36] <sud0x3> AppleTor: Should be able to edit your current connection, then view proxy tab?
[14:36] <tnss> i don't know
[14:36] <nathan_> For proxy from command line..  you might be able to set HTTP_PROXY, HTTPS_PROXY, etc. and be OK
[14:36] <nathan_> If you applications honor those variables
[14:36] <tnss> maybe the iso will be release once the whole world has reached April 26th
[14:37] <tnss> I don't know
[14:37] <AppleTor> sud0x3 no proxy tab
[14:37] <tnss> like in japan
[14:37] <AppleTor> i'm on server version
[14:37] <tnss> I might switch to Kubuntu because of h
[14:37] <tnss> lighter it is, and it looks better
[14:37] <AppleTor> nathan_ how? tried export https_proxy, but not working
[14:37] <tnss> but, somehow
[14:37] <AppleTor> it was like nothing happen
[14:38] <sud0x3> do you have a gui to network manager?
[14:38] <tnss> whenever I load a fullscreen game of Steam with the Plasma desktop, the Desktop uses less RAM, and the window borders disappear when the game closes
[14:38] <AppleTor> sud0x3 i don't think so
[14:38] <tnss> The only workaround around that is to either minimize or close all other applications except Steam
[14:39] <sud0x3> AppleTor: you will likely have to use nmcli then, are you using ssh to access the server?
[14:39] <AppleTor> sud0x3 yup
[14:39] <AppleTor> i'm using ssh
[14:40] <sud0x3> do you get any output from 'nmcli c'
[14:40] <AppleTor> NAME  UUID  TYPE  DEVICE
[14:41] <sud0x3> AppleTor: Were there any connections specified below that output?
[14:41] <dhs23423423> hello everyone
[14:42] <AppleTor> nope, that's the only output i get
[14:42] <sud0x3> if not you dont seem to be managing connections with network manager
[14:42] <sud0x3> AppleTor: strange, is this a vps?
[14:42] <AppleTor> yup
[14:42] <sud0x3> Some vps providers make changes to the os they provide
[14:42] <AppleTor> oh crap:?
[14:43] <AppleTor> well i was trying to ffmpeg over proxy
[14:44] <AppleTor> but the way it handle it kinda weird. different with how my mac handle
[14:44] <AppleTor> it
[14:44] <sud0x3> AppleTor: Who is your provider?
[14:44] <AppleTor> Contabo
[14:46] <sud0x3> AppleTor: I would get in touch with them just to check if they have made any modifications to the stack before you go down the rabbit hole :D
[14:46] <AppleTor> will contact them later, thanks for your suggestions tho ^_^
[14:48] <sud0x3> no problem, take a look at what services you have enabled in the meantime see if anything stands out as managing networking
[14:49] <wlp2s0> 18.04Has it been released?
[14:50] <rajivmars> wlp2s0, not yet
[14:50] <dzho> wlp2s0: see #ubuntu+1 as per the /topic
[14:50] <dzho> !isitout
[14:50] <dzho> or that
[14:50] <katnip> lame
[14:50] <jelly> presumably the topic here will be updated when it's out
[14:50] <dzho> jelly: that's my expectation, yeah.
[14:50] <katnip> welcome to microsoft :)
[14:50] <dzho> and also all the web pages.
[14:50] <dzho> katnip: wat
[14:50] <katnip> lol
[14:51] <katnip> the way their releasing this
[14:51] <katnip> but apple releases in PST
[14:52] <dzho> katnip: yeah so far I've yet to see anything like this from Canonical https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2018/04/24/recycling-innovator-eric-lundgren-loses-appeal-on-computer-restore-discs-must-serve-15-month-prison-term/
[14:53] <katnip> dzho, i hope you realize im kidding
[14:53] <dzho> lol
[14:54] <katnip> like 'when it's ready' is like debian
[14:57] <dzho> katnip: https://makeameme.org/meme/when-its-ready
[14:58] <katnip> Cheez, here?
[14:58] <harris> t minus 2 minutes
[14:58] <SlidingHorn> katnip & dzho - let's keep the channel clear for support requests, please.  Feel free to continue in #ubuntu-offtopic, though :)
[14:59] <dzho> fair point, thanks.
[14:59] <katnip> SlidingHorn, it was short and sweet but point taken after the fact :)
[15:02] <_UsUrPeR_> hey all. I'm having trouble getting a USB3 PCI-e card working after spinning up a new kernel, and can't figure out what I forgot to include in the kernel menuconfig. This used to work in my old kernel, so I presume I missed adding a module
[15:02]  * habbasi waits for 18.04 to drop.
[15:03] <_UsUrPeR_> okay, I think I figured out what's missing
[15:03] <_UsUrPeR_> looks like I neglected to include xhci drivers in the kernel modules
[15:03] <_UsUrPeR_> how do I get those installed after the fact?
[15:04] <leftyfb> _UsUrPeR_: why are you compiling your own kernel?
[15:04] <_UsUrPeR_> leftyfb, I'm working out a kernel bug for the DRI/amdgpu project
[15:05] <_UsUrPeR_> leftyfb, specifically: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106159
[15:06] <leftyfb> _UsUrPeR_: Can't you just add xhci drivers to your kernel and recompile?
[15:07] <leftyfb> _UsUrPeR_: from what I can tell, xhci drivers only exist in the kernel
[15:12] <dedze> Hello, I have a problem, I cannot open my auth.log. I just made this user account sudo capable
[15:12] <GrimSleepless> Hi Guys, Does anyone else has issues with LVM? When I boot lvmadd has to scan my partitions to find the one to boot up. It works but it takes a while
[15:13] <GrimSleepless> dedze, have you tried to ls to make sure it is there?
[15:13] <GrimSleepless> OR you could chmod 0777 for now.
[15:14] <dedze> GrimSleepless: I see it with my file browser application (I forgot the name)
[15:14] <dedze> GrimSleepless: I'm super newbie to ubuntu I know what chmod do but I dont know how to use it
[15:15] <GrimSleepless> sudo chmod 0777 /path/to/file
[15:15] <GrimSleepless> or you could do sudo chown $USER /path/to/file
[15:16] <GrimSleepless> The latter would be better
[15:16] <zenguy> hi any issues with the snap package for skype on ubuntu 16.04?
[15:16] <dedze> GrimSleepless: so if my user is dedze it would be sudo chown $dedze /etc?
[15:17] <pavlos> without $
[15:17] <GrimSleepless> try echo $USER in your termianl :)
[15:17] <GrimSleepless> terminal***
[15:17] <dedze> Oki thank you
[15:17] <GrimSleepless> It is a bash variable :D
[15:18] <tnss> hey
[15:18] <SlidingHorn> dedze: also, you may need to log out and back in before the account is able to use sudo
[15:19] <dedze> SlidingHorn: It can use sudo, I tested it
[15:20] <Mrokii> Hello. I just noticed that I have a "loop"-device in my system, pointing to a folder containing inkscape. I want to get rid of that as it doesn't work anyway. Can I unmount this device and then delete the inkscape-folder?
[15:20] <_UsUrPeR_> leftyfb, yep. Guess I need to re-compile :)
[15:21] <dedze> GrimSleepless: It says chmod: cannot access 'sanji': No such file or directory      (sanji is my username)
[15:21] <oerheks> !isitout
[15:21] <dedze> GrimSleepless: The command I entered was sudo chmod 0777 sanji /var/log/auth.log
[15:21] <oerheks> oh
[15:22] <tnss> who can access the iso
[15:22] <tnss> for 18.04
[15:23] <antonm> I can't
[15:23] <SlidingHorn> tnss: the official release isn't out - check out #ubuntu-release-party for updates
[15:24] <pavlos> dedze: not a good idea to change mode on system files ... you can view that file with, more /var/log/auth.log
[15:24] <tnss> ok
[15:24] <SlidingHorn> dedze: I'd agree with pavlos - there's really no good reason to chmod a system log file
[15:24] <Mrokii> When I did a dist-upgrade for Ubuntu, it found 18.04 and I was able to update. About an hour ago or so.
[15:25] <pavlos> dedze: users who belong in the adm group can view that file
[15:25] <tda> i want to set up a second hard drive encrypted with luks and mount at /home during the install. is there a way to do this? i've set it up after install in the past, but it was tricky and broke things.
[15:26] <pavlos> dedze: to find what groups you belong to, type id
[15:26] <dedze> pavlos: Ouch I changed it already
[15:26] <tda> technically i want to do this on 18.04, but i assume there should be a way on current and recent releases
[15:26] <dedze> pavlos: I belong to group 27 sudo, is it bad?
[15:27] <pavlos> dedze: that's good, you can execute commands with sudo
[15:28] <dedze> pavlos: What should id show if I belong to admin group?
[15:28] <nathan_> tda, there is an option (at least with Xubuntu) to encrypt your home directory at installation time
[15:28] <pavlos> dedze: change back the permissions, sudo chmod 640 /var/log/auth.log
[15:28] <nathan_> Not sure if it does exactly what you want, though
[15:29] <dedze> pavlos: It's changed back, thank you. How can I add my user to admin group?
[15:29] <pavlos> dedze: read on id (man id) ... id would show 4(adm) among other groups
[15:30] <dedze> pavlos: Ah, it is definitely not there
[15:31] <tda> nathan_: it does not encrypted home is separate from having a second disk encrypted with luks mounted at /home
[15:32] <dedze> How can I add a user to the admin group?
[15:32] <pavlos> dedze: usermod -a -G adm dedze ... logout/login and type id
[15:33] <oerheks> the 17.10  systemsettings/accounts gui tool gives that option
[15:34] <dedze> pavlos: So if my username is sanji,, it would be : 'sudo usermod -a -G adm sanji'?
[15:34] <Ool> or you can use adduser toto adm
[15:34] <pavlos> dedze: yes, and as oerheks mentioned, you can do from gui
[15:34] <Ool> if toto is your login
[15:35] <SlidingHorn> Ool: It's best practice to use "usermod" when the user already exists
[15:35] <dedze> oerheks: Hehe I'm on 16.04 though
[15:36] <tda> i usually edit /etc/groups because i can never remember the options to add a group and set/clear groups
[15:36] <Ool> perhaps but it's work fine :)
[15:38] <dedze> pavlos: Thanks! It worked! Now I have another issue hehe.
[15:39] <dedze> pavlos: When I opened my auth.log, it ways: the file you opened has invalid characters,, if you continue editing this file you could corrupt this document
[15:39] <dedze> it says*
[15:39] <gogeta> is it party time yet
[15:39] <jahtemg> I got a question. It's not quite ubuntu question but still... Are there any alternative operating systems than Android for ARM phones ? I know ubuntu abandoned Ubuntu Touch... so
[15:39] <gogeta> jahtemg, not any thats active atm
[15:40] <dedze> pavlos: And I in the file, there is a red line with \00\00\00
[15:43] <oerheks> jahtemg, ubports is alive, ubuntu touch community editon
[15:43] <oerheks> join #ubports
[15:48] <SlidingHorn> so I just accidentally closed my terminal in the middle of a apt full-upgrade...
[15:48] <leftyfb> don't do that :)
[15:48] <bodom> Hi there! When is the 18.04 release date?
[15:48] <jgauthier> hi, I'm trying to diagnose a bizarre fan problem on my Dell XPS running Ubuntu
[15:49] <jgauthier> the fan will randomly spin up every 15-30 minutes, running for at least a few minutes
[15:49] <ambix> hey quick question how to I do the following the most effective: wget archive-latest.tgz && tar -zxvf archive-latest.tgz then cd into the extracted dir which sadly is something like archive-A-XYZ
[15:49] <gogeta> SlidingHorn, apt-get install -f
[15:49] <rajivmars> bodom, today
[15:49] <pavlos> dedze: file /var/log/auth.log should be data
[15:49] <gogeta> SlidingHorn, then resume to upgrade
[15:49] <coolchris> is bionic beaver out yet
[15:49] <bodom> rajivmars: ty, is there a scheduled time?
[15:49] <jgauthier> it's running right now at high RPM, even though the CPU temp is totally normal
[15:50] <jgauthier> see output from `sensors` here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wtmr7T4XxW/
[15:50] <SlidingHorn> looks like the process finished gogeta & leftyfb - apt -f install seemed to complete without error
[15:50] <pavlos> idle at 56 C ?
[15:50] <Gargravarr> jgauthier: have you ever updated the firmware in it? those can sometimes include fixes for rogue fans
[15:50] <rajivmars> bodom, no
[15:50] <rajivmars> we all are waiting for the same.
[15:50] <bodom> rajivmars: ty, so i'll wait and see
[15:50] <rajivmars> yeah
[15:51]  * SlidingHorn wipes brow in relief
[15:52] <Tegu> ambix: if you need to do that often, my firs thought was to put those steps into a little script hat takes the archive as the argument. assuming that the archives follow the same format..
[15:52] <jgauthier> Gargravarr: yes, I updated several months ago before installing Ubuntu over preinstalled Windows
[15:53] <ambix> Tegu: yes I want to automate the process but I dont know how to 'cd' into the extracted folder because the name changes from app-latest to app-X-ABC which is some version number
[15:53] <jgauthier> these fan issues just popped up about a week ago
[15:53] <jgauthier> so I guess I'm wondering how to proceed with a diagnosis
[15:53] <jgauthier> what I can clearly see is that the fan will spin up to 5k RPM, even when the CPU is at 40 C
[15:53] <pavlos> jgauthier: start from the bios page
[15:53] <Tegu> ambix: then it needs slightly more steps and a bit shell scripting
[15:53] <jgauthier> this is even with i8k set up (Dell laptop-specific fan manager)
[15:54] <ambix> Tegu: could you guide me on how to do that? i'm lost
[15:54] <jgauthier> pavlos: sorry, what do you mean? start what from the bios page?
[15:54] <pavlos> jgauthier: boot your system, go into bios and look at H/W Monitor
[15:54] <Tegu> ambix: also, why do you want to do this? just in case there is another solution on another level
[15:54] <NoCode> el or anyone else: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbtnOTwUwAA9XiH.jpg:large -- Is that fair-use to bring community together, or would it be a trademark issue? Re: Ubuntu in both mannerisms.
[15:55] <ambix> Tegu: just want to write an installer script to setup a fresh install :) just for my own sake and then I stumbled upon that problem and I'm not sure how to solve it
[15:55] <ambix> which got me interested
[15:56] <SlidingHorn> NoCode: I can't look right now, but I'm assuming you're asking about a use of the Ubuntu logo/branding?  If so, take a look in #ubuntu-discuss. They might have better direction on that
[15:56] <jgauthier> pavlos: OK, thanks. What should I expect to find / what should I be looking for?
[15:56] <leftyfb> NoCode: what are we supposed to be looking at in that picture?
[15:57] <jgauthier> this laptop is brand-new, less than a year old
[15:57] <Markdown1_> was not Ubuntu 18.04 supposed to release today?
[15:57] <leftyfb> oh! the grass
[15:57] <leftyfb> Markdown1_: it will be, not yet
[15:57] <jgauthier> & this issue appeared just a week ago – so I'm assuming the problem is something with firmware/drivers?
[15:57] <pavlos> jgauthier: bios has options to set cpu fan speed, etc.
[15:57] <Markdown1_> in a couple of hours I presume?
[15:58] <leftyfb> NoCode: that symbol in the grass is not the Ubuntu logo
[15:58] <jgauthier> pavlos: I see. But the fan is not consistently on – it spins up seemingly randomly
[15:58] <Fjorgynn> :)
[15:58] <leftyfb> Markdown1_: there is no set time. It will be released when they are ready.
[15:58] <jgauthier> e.g. if I log in and let the laptop sit with idle CPU for a few minutes, it will turn on
[15:58] <Tegu> ambix: I see. I can't name any installation script tools off the top of my head. perhaps there are some
[15:58] <jgauthier> (this is true even if I just let the gdm login screen idle, without logging in)
[15:58] <pavlos> jgauthier: as others mentioned it could be firmware issues or dust or ...
[15:58] <Markdown1_> I am just so excited because its a LTS release, hope it will be released soon.
[15:59] <ambix> Tegu: i just want to solve that in bash
[15:59] <Tegu> ambix: what about making a .deb package? is it overkill for your case?
[15:59] <tnss> if you already have ubuntu, why not use upgrade
[15:59] <jgauthier> pavlos: OK, well I guess I'll check out the BIOS as a next step. pretty boggling space of possible causes here. Thanks!
[16:00] <oerheks> i would not upgrade, without the iso on usb as backup
[16:01] <Tegu> ambix: but if you still want to do it with scripting, I guess you could grab the topmost folder name with tar -t and some filtering and cd to that (assuming that it's not simply the only folder that follows that name format)
[16:02] <ambix> Tegu: i guess a deb package would be overkill. just wanted to find a smart solution via bash scripting because I couldnt think of one :)
[16:06] <tnss> i prefer synaptics drivers over libinput, especially since I heard that not physical right-click buttons (i.e, Dell laptops) would no longer be able to right click from the bottom of the touchpad
[16:08] <antonm> Hi
[16:08] <Zeraphy> hello
[16:09] <user2312> Where can I download 18.04 at?
[16:09] <pavlos> Zeraphy: hi there
[16:09] <pavlos> user2312: not released yet
[16:09] <tnss> !itisnotoutyet
[16:09] <user2312> When is it out, today is the day
[16:09] <tnss> !isitoutyet
[16:09] <Zeraphy> you can download daily builds. Final release is not ready yet
[16:10] <Gargravarr> user2312: it will be released by the end of the day
[16:10] <tnss> perhaps it is time zone-dependant
[16:10] <user2312> Is this going to be like every Canonical release where it's fucked up?
[16:10] <user2312> !yes
[16:10] <Gargravarr> user2312: please be careful saying things like that
[16:10] <oerheks> user2312, where? same place as usual .. but drop that language, thanks
[16:10] <pavlos> user2312: discussion in channel #ubuntu+1
[16:11] <ozberk> hi people I wanna tweak my ubuntu for apperance. This new unity like gnome interface is good but for gnome I'm more familiar with the older experience with gnome. I want hot corners, smaller dock and activities (well... it's already there), etc...
[16:11] <ozberk> what can I do?
[16:12] <SlidingHorn> ozberk: you can always install gnome and use it instead of unity
[16:13] <ozberk> SlidingHorn, :) This is already gnome in Ubuntu 17.10
[16:13] <xangua> Isn't there a "gnome session" login option? ozberk
[16:13] <SlidingHorn> ozberk: I misread your statement, sorry...
[16:14] <oerheks> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[16:14] <ozberk> Guys Guys Guys you missunderestood me or maybe I was not so clear. I'm already in Gnome but not it isn't like GNOME 3.4 lets say
[16:14] <ozberk> !cookie oerheks
[16:15] <ozberk> :( how can I give a cookie to you
[16:15] <oerheks> seperate with |
[16:15] <oerheks> !cookie | ozberk
[16:15] <ozberk> !cookie| oerheks
[16:15] <oerheks> ty
[16:17] <ozberk> also have another question I have tried to install spotify over snap yet encountered with an error. Now I can't try it again because of this output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Hp3DS78FNj/
[16:19] <SlidingHorn> ozberk: use   snap changes   find the ID of the change, and then    sudo snap abort $idNumber
[16:22] <fd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot was (last edited 2015-06-29 08:09:22 by tobefree). It would be better if updated for 18.04
[16:22] <SlidingHorn> fd: I'm sure that the discussion for that is in progress
[16:23] <pikapika> So...whats the matter with 18.04 lts? It was supposed to be released today, there are some news articles also claiming its already out...but on the main website I still see only a Beta version and https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop still shows 17.10 as the newest
[16:23] <nacc> !isitout
[16:23] <nacc> pikapika: be patient -- articles are not the answer
[16:23] <SlidingHorn> pikapika: the articles saying "it's out" are likely scheduled posts based on an assumption of what time they thought it would be released.  It is not out yet, however
[16:24] <pikapika> Ok, thanks
[16:24] <fd> SlidingHorn: any way to increase priority for that discussion ?
[16:27] <donofrio> as of today 18.04 is welcomed in this channel?
[16:27] <Silmarilion> not yet
[16:29] <yourname> has it been released yet?
[16:29] <srukle> not yet
[16:29] <srukle>  /join #ubuntu-release-party
[16:29] <yourname> srukle: thanks
[16:29] <yourname>  /join #ubuntu-release-party
[16:29] <srukle> without the space :)
[16:30] <Devrim> I keep want to say "is it out yet" but others say it before me
[16:30] <srukle> there's a bot in that channel that answers the question, lol
[16:30] <Markdown1_> "its already 27th April in Oceania and Eastern Asia :)"
[16:30] <srukle> Does China still use Ubuntu?
[16:30] <Devrim> It's already 27th of April somewhere, still not out. Literally shaking rn
[16:31] <krosonp> Markdown1_: I wish I were there would stay awake all night until release was out lol
[16:31] <srukle> it's ok Devrim. join the release party instead :)
[16:32] <Markdown1_> I think for New Zealand no need to stay late :P
[16:32] <Golynx> Mark Shuttleworth likes delayed launches , that's why another South African Elon Musk launches his rockets on time...
[16:32] <GrimSleepless> Do we have an ETA on when Ubuntu 18.04 is going to be released?
[16:32] <srukle> lol
[16:32] <SlidingHorn> no.
[16:33] <GrimSleepless> I am already on Ubuntu 18.04. I was part of the beta :)
[16:33] <srukle> Yay! :D
[16:33] <Fjorgynn> :(
[16:33] <helloworldu> not released.
[16:33] <srukle> There's a release party if you haven't seen it yet GrimSleepless at #ubuntu-release-party
[16:33] <GrimSleepless> For me, it is already released. I am out of the dev branch
[16:33] <SlidingHorn>  GrimSleepless: then why bother asking?
[16:33] <Markdown1_> Kiwis will install it by Lunch :)
[16:34] <GrimSleepless> Just wondering SlidingHorn
[16:35] <Markdown1_> I think for most people in Europe they have to stay late anyways for anything releasing in America, but in this case I think Canonical is gonna follow GMT time being an UK company?
[16:35] <SlidingHorn> This is off topic for this channel.  Please join either #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-release-party for this
[16:36] <danslo> I upgraded to 18.04 LTS (from 17.10). Installed latest nvidia-396, and ran nvidia-xconfig just to be sure.  dmesg says its loading the driver, but when I 'glxinfo | grep Device' I'm getting some VMWare llvmpipe that's supposedly used to fake hardware acceleration on devices that don't support it. anyone know how to debug this?
[16:36] <Markdown1_> oh sorry.
[16:37] <php_create> WHERE IS MY UBUNTU. RAGE
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> php_create: no need to yell, you can ask a question normally :p
[16:39] <php_create> lotuspsychje: I love you.. You always know how to calm me down
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> php_create: just join the party @ #ubuntu-release-party
[16:42] <minimec> danslo: Do you use the ppa or do you download the driver from the nvidia homepage?
[16:46] <tvw> join #percona
[17:11] <t5u> hi I have a problem, I am trying to install AMD drivers on Ubuntu 14.04 but getting error msg
[17:11] <t5u> Breaks existing package 'xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial' conflict:  fglrx-core ()
[17:12] <srukle> that would be a problem :o good luck, drivers make me bonkers sometimes
[17:12] <t5u> day 3
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> !behelpful | srukle
[17:13] <gareppa> 14.04 is trusty tahr
[17:13] <gareppa> no xenial
[17:13] <sourceslayer> HEllo
[17:13] <t5u> tahr
[17:14] <leftyfb> t5u: if you're running 14.04, why is it complaining about xenial?
[17:14] <t5u> well im not too sure
[17:14] <sourceslayer> Isn't Bionic Beaver supposed to be released today
[17:14] <t5u> just downgraded from 16.4
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> sourceslayer: yes
[17:14] <sourceslayer> The download page still has 16.04
[17:14] <srukle> what does your apt sources look like?
[17:14] <srukle> oh, when you say downgraded, what did you do?
[17:14] <t5u> fresh install
[17:15] <gareppa> a half downgrade with mixed packets? is downgrading even possible without reinstalling from scratch?
[17:15] <t5u> new iso on pen and fresh erase + install
[17:15] <srukle> what iso did you use for the install?
[17:15] <youtah> Go 18.04!!!
[17:15] <t5u> 14.04 usb
[17:15] <srukle> from ubuntu.org?
[17:15] <t5u> yes
[17:15] <srukle> sorry .com
[17:16] <youtah> Anyone have an ETA as to when do-release-upgrade will work for 18.04? I saw the last minute https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntukylin/+bug/1767067 bump in the road.
[17:17] <srukle> t5u: from this address ? http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ -- the reason we're confused is because the error message refers to ubuntu 16.04
[17:17] <gareppa> youtah, is that bug fixed now? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntukylin/+bug/1767067/comments/13
[17:17] <youtah> yeah
[17:17] <youtah> "status:	Confirmed → Fix Released"
[17:17] <youtah> as of 43 minutes ago
[17:17] <leftyfb> t5u: uh ... how did you "downgrade?
[17:17] <srukle> t5u: for the driver installation, did you use instructions? could you post the link?
[17:17] <t5u> one sec
[17:17] <leftyfb> oh, nm .. fresh install ... missed it
[17:20] <t5u> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64
[17:20] <ioria> t5u, if you're using trusty with the xenial hwe , you cannot use fglrx or catalyst from amd website
[17:20] <t5u> drivers were downloaded form AMD to that specific card
[17:20] <t5u> using software centre to open .deb file
[17:20] <Missile> why ubuntu hasn't released it's 10.08 LTS yet?
[17:21] <t5u> should i dpkg ?
[17:21] <tuxayo> Is the following page the right one to check for the 18.04 release? http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/
[17:21] <ioria> t5u, did you read the above ?
[17:21] <t5u> yes
[17:21] <tuxayo> Or will the email in ubuntu-announce come first?
[17:21] <srukle> t5u: dpkg -i works, but it seems like you have some dep issues
[17:21] <vicky1983> hi all
[17:21] <ioria> t5u, your kernel and xorg is not compatible with proprietary amd drivers
[17:21] <oerheks> ioria +1
[17:22] <vicky1983> anyone using geany here for basic java development?
[17:22] <yourname> vicky1983: yes kinsa new at it though
[17:23] <tuxayo> Missile: software often doesn't get released with a day precise schedule. So many reasons can cause at least some minors delay even for a lot of mature teams.
[17:23] <t5u> ioria: thanks is there a way to fix that ?
[17:23] <ioria> t5u, if you really want to use those drivers, you need to remove the xenial hwe and replace 4.4 with 3.13 (a fresh install of and old trusty version)
[17:23] <ioria> *whould be faster
[17:23] <gareppa> t5u, maybe you installed drivers fro xenial and not for tahr, and here you have mixed errors?
[17:24] <t5u> gareppa: there is no support for xenial
[17:24] <gareppa> ok
[17:24] <t5u> ioria thanks
[17:24] <ioria> t5u, it's ok
[17:25] <jeffreylevesque_> what alternative commands can i use for tcpdump?
[17:27] <yourname> has anyone been able to get the eclipse or netbeans ide from the repos to work?they use java 8 and the default java in 18.04 is java 11.  i tried messing with configs to change java path to 8 but nothing.. cant find anything online either
[17:27] <nacc> yourname: it's a known issue
[17:28] <nacc> yourname: search for bugs, it'll get fixed at some point, presumably
[17:28] <nacc> yourname: netbeans has been broken for a while (also true in Debian iirc)
[17:28] <yourname> nacc: oh ok thanks.. i thought maybe it was just me :)
[17:29] <nacc> yourname: you could try the eclipse snap, maybe it works
[17:29] <loru> !isitoutyet
[17:29] <yourname> nacc: i have and it works fine.. also have a few regular installed.. but there is nothing like the comfort of a deb :)
[17:30] <nacc> yourname: ok
[17:30] <yourname> nacc: thanks for you help.. now i can relax lol
[17:31] <pavlos> jeffreylevesque_: have you tried, man tcpdump?
[17:32] <jeffreylevesque_> nah
[17:32] <jeffreylevesque_> i just used netstat
[17:32] <jeffreylevesque_> forgot about that little guy
[17:32] <youtah> i=1; while [ $i -gt 0 ]; do clear; echo -en "\rIs 18.04  "; sleep 1; echo -en "\rdone yet? "; sleep 1; done;
[17:32] <youtah> lol
[17:32]  * youtah wanders off to go get a tasty beverage
[17:33] <t5u> When Ubuntu 14.04 was first released, it came with the 3.13.X kernel version. Then came the point releases. Point releases are versions of LTS systems that come with some newer software in the repositories, such as the kernel, but do not sacrifice stability
[17:33] <yourname> youtah: haha.. i got a countdown like this lol
[17:33] <pavlos> jeffreylevesque_: netstat -tulp is helpful
[17:34] <t5u> which ver. of tahr comes with 3.13
[17:34] <jeffreylevesque_> yes sir
[17:34] <jeffreylevesque_> thank you
[17:34] <t5u> plain 14.04
[17:34] <t5u> ?
[17:34] <terry34>  /join #ubuntu_1
[17:34] <ioria> t5u, 14.04 : http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.0/
[17:35] <t5u> thanks again. where do you keep all that knowledge
[17:35] <pavlos> terry34:   (#ubuntu+1)
[17:35] <medfly> Hi. I want to pci passthrough one of my devices and having trouble making it into a stub. this is for kvm
[17:35] <ioria> t5u, from the big G
[17:37] <loru> !isitoutyet
[17:37] <youtah> lol
[17:37] <impermanence> Does AWS mirror Ubuntu's package repos?
[17:38] <tomreyn> impermanence: #aws may be a better audience for this question
[17:39] <impermanence> tomreyn: maybe, yes.  swim has repsonded over there.
[17:40] <SlidingHorn> loru: join the #ubuntu-release-party for updates about the new release.
[17:41] <ryzokuken> Ubuntu 18.04 here yet?
[17:41] <coolchris> no its there not here
[17:41] <coolchris> jk lol
[17:41] <pragmaticenigma> ryzokuken: join #ubuntu-release-party for updates
[17:44] <sourceslayer> One of the ops should probably put that in the topic, just a suggestion
[17:45] <rajivmars> guys, any news about the release? are they going to release it today?
[17:46] <Alives> wheres that 18.04 at!!
[17:46] <leftyfb> rajivmars: it will be released today
[17:46] <Alives> ha
[17:46] <rajivmars> when? any idea?
[17:46] <pragmaticenigma> rajivmars:  join #ubuntu-release-party for updates
[17:46] <Alives> pragmaticenigma: thx
[17:47] <leftyfb> rajivmars: there is no time scheduled. Only when it is ready on April 26th
[17:47] <FatihArda> Hi
[17:48] <FatihArda> Is there any telegram Group for ubuntu?
[17:48] <rajivmars> leftyfb,ok! in my region it is about to enter 27th of april.
[17:49] <leftyfb> rajivmars: My region is only halfway through the 26th. They are well within their posted schedule
[17:49] <rajivmars> yeah.
[17:49] <rajivmars> hope they will release it today.
[17:49] <FatihArda> I hope too
[17:51] <boboma> Hello. Ubuntu allocated just 900 megabyte of swap during a fresh install.
[17:51] <boboma> Seems not enough to me.
[17:51] <boboma> How to make that more?
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> !swap | boboma
[17:52] <boboma> lotuspsychje, thanks. I know what swap is. I just think 900 is not enough
[17:53] <pavlos> boboma: you need to swap off; with gparted increase swap; then swap on
[17:53] <pragmaticenigma> boboma: are you sure Ubuntu didn't opt for a swap file instead?
[17:53] <oerheks> * unless you run 17.10, which uses a swapfile
[17:54] <fabz0r> hello everyone. wasn't 18.04 supposed to be released today?
[17:54] <boboma> I use 18.04. Fresh install and it created a partition instead of a file
[17:54] <pavlos> boboma: https://askubuntu.com/questions/178712/how-to-increase-swap-space/178726
[17:54] <boboma> I am wondering why
[17:55] <pragmaticenigma> boboma: 18.04 isn't officially released yet
[17:55] <KeithWeisshar> what happened to bionic release?
[17:55] <rajivmars> fabz0r, but they haven't released it yet.
[17:55] <pragmaticenigma> KeithWeisshar: fabz0r : join #ubuntu-release-party for more information
[17:55] <boboma> pragmaticenigma, I know
[17:55] <SlidingHorn> KeithWeisshar, fabz0r - /join #ubuntu-release-party
[17:55] <leftyfb> KeithWeisshar: it will be released today
[17:55] <fabz0r> thank you!
[17:55] <pragmaticenigma> boboma: Until it's officially released, we aren't able to support 18.04 here
[17:56] <pragmaticenigma> boboma: the best we can do is some triage, until we have the documentation
[17:56] <boboma> ok lets triage then
[17:56] <pragmaticenigma> boboma: paste your mounts to pastebin.ubuntu.com
[17:56] <pavlos> boboma: 18.04b2 created /swapfile, usually half the size of ram
[17:57] <boboma> pavlos, unfortunately not in my case
[17:57] <boboma> I wonder why let me post the specs
[17:58] <pavlos> boboma: can you post your /etc/fstab
[17:59] <boboma> https://paste.debian.net/1022223/
[17:59] <rpittau_> !isitoutyet
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> !party | rpittau_
[18:00] <rpittau_> thanks ubottu ;)
[18:01] <jakndax> party of one over here
[18:01] <jakndax> wooop
[18:01] <medfly> I succeeded in stubbing my device. I remembered to update-initramfs  -u and also blacklsited the driver for good measure :) seems good now.
[18:02] <boboma> pavlos, pragmaticenigma any idea why the swap is a partition and only 1G of size?
[18:03] <pavlos> boboma: you used LVM so I'm looking to find some info
[18:04] <boboma> If you choose encryption it uses LVM automatically
[18:04] <awy_> what does top and iotop do?
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> !info iotop
[18:05] <Rich246> Hi guys, I want to make a USB live stick that I can edit? So I can add software to it if possible?
[18:05] <boboma> @awy_, man top and man iotop
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> !info uck | Rich246
[18:06] <oerheks> uck is dead
[18:06] <oerheks> Cubic should do that trick.. https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image
[18:06] <Rich246> I basically want a version of Ubuntu fully installed on to a USB stick
[18:07] <oerheks> oh, easy peasy, use 2 usb drives, one with iso, and select 2nd usb to install on
[18:10] <stas> is it anyone who can help with PowerDNS?
[18:10] <leftyfb> stas: why PowerDNS over bind?
[18:10] <Rich246> I only have one USB Stick
[18:13] <leftyfb> Rich246: Boot a VirtualBox guest to an iso downloaded on your pc. Associate the flash drive within the guest and install ubuntu from the iso through the virtualbox guest to the usb flash drive
[18:13] <leftyfb> stas: please don't private message
[18:15] <solidfox> I can't wait for 18.04
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> !party | solidfox
[18:16] <gogeta> solidfox, you shall wait
[18:16] <gogeta> solidfox, they have not payed my ransom yet to open the servers
[18:16] <solidfox> lotuspsychje, thanks!
[18:16] <solidfox> gogeta, :c could you not
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> gogeta: please be helpful to users
[18:18] <awy_> what is noop deadline cfq
[18:18] <gogeta> lotuspsychje, oh come on thats the same as are we there yet
[18:18] <awy_> i catted scheduler file in /sys/block/sda/queue
[18:19] <solidfox> lotuspsychje, I don't mind :P
[18:19] <awy_> are those the types of scheduler? also is it io scheduler or a task scheduler?
 what did u mean when u told "Why PowerDNS over bind?"
[18:20] <leftyfb> Ariel17: why are you using powerdns over bind9?
[18:21] <Ariel17> just because i need to use it)
[18:21] <Ariel17> how to write here with name mark pls?
[18:22] <iamlegend> everyone here for the Bionic launch party? \m/
[18:22] <leftyfb> iamlegend: that's in #ubuntu-release-party
 so could u help iwth pdns?
[18:23] <iamlegend> in that case, i'll open another tab
[18:23] <leftyfb> Ariel17: nope. I only know bind9 which is the more popular solution
 do you know anyone who can help me? and how can  I write here with name marl like 'leftyfb:'?
[18:24] <leftyfb> Ariel17: type a name and hit tab
[18:25] <awy_> what does history -d <number> command does?
[18:26] <leftyfb> awy_: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Bash-History-Builtins.html
[18:26] <en1gma> on ubuntu website it says 16.04 LTS still but in topic here it shows 18.04
[18:27] <oerheks> en1gma, good notice ..
[18:29] <pollen> so where is 18.04 ??
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> pollen   any moment now, have patience
[18:30] <pollen> me patient? not likely :P
[18:30] <dax> "any moment now" might be pushing it a bit, but it'll be sometime today
[18:31] <Ariel17> leftyfb, thank you)
[18:31] <Ariel17> I have powerDns conf where written that it should run .sh file. File has 755 permissions(also tried 755, 775, 777, nothing changed). When trying sudo service pdns start it's starting, but when Im trying status it gives exception "code=exited, status=1/FAILURE", in syslog shows only Permission denied on this file .sh. When I'm trying this .sh file without pdns - working correct. Where should I dig to solve this problem?
[18:31] <Ariel17> P.S. Was trying "apparmor stop" but nothing changed with pdns
[18:40] <Gasher> hello, where can I find updates on the release?
[18:41] <dax> Gasher: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-April/thread.html is updated when it's release, #ubuntu-release-party has discussion and rampant speculation ;)
[18:41] <dax> when it's released*
[18:42] <Gasher> thanks dax
[18:42] <harris> !isitreadyyet
[18:43] <boboma> Better the release would be postponed. experienced two nasty bugs with daily live from today...
[18:43] <ozberk> !sitout
[18:43] <s10gopal> !ubuntu-offtopic
[18:43] <ozberk> !isitout
[18:44] <ozberk> lol
[18:44] <pragmaticenigma> s10gopal: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> ozberk: idle in #ubuntu-release-party
[18:44] <s10gopal> thx
[18:44] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | lotuspsychje :-P
[18:48] <Ariel17> I have powerDns conf where written that it should run .sh file. File has 755 permissions(also tried 755, 775, 777, nothing changed). When trying sudo service pdns start it's starting, but when Im trying status it gives exception "code=exited, status=1/FAILURE", in syslog shows only Permission denied on this file .sh. When I'm trying this .sh file without pdns - working correct. Where should I dig to solve this problem?
[18:48] <Ariel17> P.S. Was trying "apparmor stop" but nothing changed with pdns
[18:48] <ozberk> You can't run Nvidia drivers on wayland they said... Only X.org will work they said... X.Org doesn't work... Nvidia drivers are there but system recognizes the intel graphichs (which is ok) yet still X.Org doesn't work
[18:48] <leftyfb> !patience | Ariel17
[18:50] <pavlos> Ariel17: which ubuntu?
[18:52] <Ariel17> pavlos, 17.04
[18:52] <leftyfb> Ariel17: 17.04 is not supported anymore
[18:52] <pavlos> Ariel17: does the .sh file has #!someshell as the first line
[18:52] <leftyfb> !eol | Ariel17
[18:53] <ozberk> ubottu is doing the hardest job in here :D
[18:53] <Toadisattva> just to confirm, when BB drops it'll be posted here first right? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes
[18:53] <ozberk> no no no you are itelligent my friend :D
[18:54] <leftyfb> ozberk: that's because for the most part, everyone asks the same questions or has the same problems and repeating the same thing over and over again gets old real quick.
[18:54] <Ariel17> pavlos, no, but there #!/bin/bash
[18:57] <pavlos> Ariel17: can you paste the .sh file (use pastebinit or similar
[18:58] <boboma> pavlos, any idea about the swap?
[18:59] <Ariel17> pavlos, #!/bin/bash
[18:59] <Ariel17> javafile.jar $@ this is all what is inside)
[18:59] <pavlos> boboma: could not find anything why using LVM, size of swap is different
[19:00] <pavlos> Ariel17: sudo service pdns status
[19:03] <SagelessFox> so
[19:03] <SagelessFox> ubuntu 18.04
[19:03] <SagelessFox> when?
[19:03] <SagelessFox> its 16 apr now and in some regions its even 17.apr
[19:04] <rajivmars> 16 or 26?
[19:04] <SagelessFox> anyone has any idea about whats going on with the release cycle
[19:04] <SagelessFox> ehh
[19:04] <SagelessFox> 26
[19:04] <SagelessFox> sry my fault
[19:04] <Ariel17> pavlos, https://pastebin.com/KcPkegFb
[19:04] <SagelessFox> its 26.apr now
[19:04] <SlidingHorn> !party | SagelessFox
[19:04] <dax> it's the 26th today. it will be the 26th somewhere in the world for quite a few hours. ubuntu should be out some time in that time.
[19:05] <SagelessFox> okay :/ thx
[19:05] <boboma> pavlos, thanks for having a look
[19:05] <SagelessFox> just have not seen any news about it on the website, it made me nervous
[19:06] <dax> that's normal. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce gets an email once it's released, then websites etc. start updating
[19:06] <pavlos> Ariel17: can you post the lines that syslog shows permission denied
[19:06] <pavlos> boboma: np
[19:06] <SagelessFox> thx a lot dax
[19:07] <radagast> Any news about the new release?
[19:08] <dax> it'll be out sometime today
[19:08] <dax> #ubuntu-release-party has all the usual rampant speculation as to when exactly that will be
[19:08] <pragmaticenigma> radagast:  join #ubuntu-release-party for more information
[19:13] <Ariel17> pavlos, https://pastebin.com/wh0vCwrw
[19:14] <phil42> today's daily is on cdimage
[19:14] <pavlos> Ariel17: does that path exist? someway/target/backend.sh
[19:15] <pragmaticenigma> phil42: for release related topics, please go to #ubuntu-release-party Thank you
[19:15] <Ariel17> pavlos, yes, i changed the right way to 'someway' because of safety)
[19:19] <pavlos> Ariel17: there is no leading / before someway, maybe it needs an absolute path and I assume someway/target/backend.sh is 755
[19:22] <pr3c0g>  /j #devops
[19:23] <Ariel17> pavlos, it has leading '/' in exception message
[19:28] <maraoz> hi everyone! what's the expected release time for 18.04? It's coming out today, right? excited to try it out :)
[19:29] <dax> maraoz: some time today, there isn't a specific time
[19:29] <dax> there's a whole process, so it depends on how quickly that goes
[19:29] <pragmaticenigma> maraoz: join #ubuntu-release-party for more information
[19:30] <maraoz> thanks everyone! ^^
[19:32] <outoftime> Can not `sudo apt-get upgrade` Problem - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XPM9NfBYNT/ lsblk - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nhxKT57cKd/ fstab - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YKZSktq9tx/ syslog - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/82yHfnpfKj/ dmesg - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kgNhr6tK9m/
[19:32] <Geert> Isn't the new release supposed to come out today?
[19:32] <zanshin> Geert: It's still today.
[19:32] <ckwalsh> Geert, Today isn't over
[19:32] <nacc> outoftime: what is the output from the command? you appear to have disk issues
[19:33] <nacc> !isitout > Geert
[19:33] <outoftime> nacc: in the "Problem" link
[19:34] <nacc> outoftime: ah sorry, it wrapped funny and i thought that corresponded to the next one
[19:34] <nacc> outoftime: your disk is readonly
[19:34] <nacc> outoftime: due to hardware issues (possibly disk failure)
[19:35] <outoftime> nacc: do you have an idea how to "recover" /var as it is on the separete HDD (dist that fails), root on SDD and its fine (at least for now)
[19:35] <outoftime> *disk that fails
[19:36] <TDO|Aquina> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseAnnouncement
[19:36] <TDO|Aquina> is that official now?
[19:37] <nacc> outoftime: if it's readonly, you can copy it to your working disk, then umount /var and
[19:38] <jmox> Seems to be officially released, but so far (nearly?) all download mirrors do not have it available yet
[19:38] <Ariel17> pavlos, any minds?)
[19:38] <xeth0sx> hey y'all, what's the word on 18.04 lts? according to ubuntu page it's t released. i don't show a download link for anything but 17.10 or beta 2
[19:39] <nicomachus> someone needs to set the topic to just tell people to go to #ubuntu-release-party....
[19:39] <xeth0sx> lol
[19:39] <skinux> I'm having trouble with 403 forbidden for /var/www/html, files are 644 and directories are 755, user skinux and group www-data
[19:39] <SlidingHorn> nicomachus: I already tried - they declined
[19:39] <nicomachus> nacc: ^
[19:39] <pavlos> Ariel17: what is the absolute path of backend.sh
[19:40] <SlidingHorn> skinux: my understanding is those files should be owned by www-data as well.  What caused you to change their ownership?
[19:40] <Ariel17> pavlos, /home/Ariel/Documents/Java/pdns/target
[19:42] <outoftime> nacc: in this case I will have /var on my SSD, which is not what I really want (I will take that into account as last choice). I have placed /var on unreliable HDD because I supposed there are only not important files...
[19:42] <nacc> nicomachus: i don't have access
[19:42] <nacc> outoftime: that's ... 100% wrong :)
[19:42] <nacc> outoftime: don't use an unreliable hard disk, it's not going to work for anything
[19:45] <pavlos> Ariel17: there is an include-dir directive in pdns.conf ... maybe you need to include /home/ariel/documents/java/pdns
[19:49] <Multbrelch> Is Ubuntu 18.04 already relesed?
[19:50] <outoftime> nacc: do you know how many read/write requests comes to /var if it is my dev machine?
[19:51] <outoftime> nacc: worring about SSD life time.
[19:55] <Ariel17> pavlos, pipe-command=/home/Ariel/Documents/Java/pdns/target/backend.sh     line from .conf
[19:55] <albacazapada_> Multbrelch you can download daily build from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/bionic-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:56] <pavlos> Ariel17: ls -l /home/Ariel/Documents/Java/pdns/target/backend.sh
[19:58] <Multbrelch> thx albaca...
[19:58] <nacc> outoftime: i that's a red herring
[19:58] <nacc> outoftime: SSD lifetime isn't really a problem anymore, afaik, unless you're hammering the disk
[19:59] <xangua> Hammer Time
[19:59] <jairamc> !isitoutyet
[19:59] <nacc> outoftime: at the same time, to answer your question, /var is read-often, write-infrequently, in principle, although it depends on your particular usage (e.g. a server with lots of logging might write to /var constantly)
[20:00] <Ariel17> pavlos, -rwxr-xr-x
[20:00] <outoftime> nacc: doint `sudo tar -czvfp /var/` to backup /var and after `umount /var` extract data with permissions
[20:00] <nacc> outoftime: yeah something like that seems reasonable
[20:00] <pollen> how do I check the cluster size of a file system?
[20:01] <bannakaffalatta> Am I a broken record if I ask if Bionic got released yet?
[20:01] <kostkon> outoftime, latest ssds can last for many years, can withstand PBs or writes
[20:01] <nacc> bannakaffalatta: yes.
[20:01] <SlidingHorn> bannakaffalatta: ^^
[20:01] <dax> bannakaffalatta: not yet, some time today, #ubuntu-release-party for the waiting room
[20:01] <nacc> pollen: depends on the fs type, but usually it's a flag to its corresponding utilities
[20:01] <outoftime> pollen: `df`?
[20:02] <pavlos> Ariel17: user/group is Ariel ?
[20:03] <Ariel17> pavlos, yes, Ariel creator and sudo
[20:04] <pavlos> Ariel17: what do you mean, creator and sudo?
[20:04] <dax> woo, fit it in with one character to spare
[20:05] <outoftime> nacc: `tar` failed, trying `rsync`
[20:05] <Ariel17> pavlos, Ariel is admin and only one user in this system
[20:05] <nacc> outoftime: ok
[20:05] <pavlos> Ariel17: pls paste the complete line, ls -l /home/Ariel/Documents/Java/pdns/target/backend.sh
[20:06] <outoftime> nacc: rsync - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Cz6SG8VPkg/
[20:07] <pavlos> Ariel17: example, -rw------- 1 user user 129716224 Apr 24 06:50 core
[20:07] <Ariel17> pavlos, -rwxr-xr-x 1 Ariel Ariel 56 кві 26 22:35 /home/Ariel/Documents/Java/pdns/target/backend.sh
[20:07] <pavlos> Ariel17: how about the top 10 lines of backend.sh
[20:09] <nacc> outoftime: right, since the disk is failing ... reads may fail
[20:09] <nacc> outoftime: honestly, you can also modify your fstab and reboot; at this point, those existing logs are corrupt/unavailable
[20:10] <Ariel17> pavlos, #!/bin/bash
[20:10] <Ariel17> sudo java -jar pdns.jar $@      I showed you it before, a few mins ago added 'sudo' on line and tested it. Status changed, but in syslog still the same error
[20:11] <nohop> oh, that's fun. apt-get upgrade... installs grub on the wrong drive. Now my windows install that I use inside a KVM for work no longer boots.
[20:12] <outoftime> nacc: what if I'll just remount /var without reboot?
[20:12] <pavlos> Ariel17: so the backend.sh calls sudo java -jar ... is JAVA_HOME env variable defined?
[20:12] <nohop> I understand that /dev/sda 'sounds' reasonable to assume to be the boot drive, but maybe adding som ekind of check before screwing up boot sectors on wrong drives might be an idea...
[20:13] <nacc> outoftime: you could do that too, i think
[20:13] <outoftime> nacc: I have modified `/etc/fstab` already trying to figure out how to apply changes (forgot)
[20:14] <Ariel17> pavlos, yes, when Im calling .sh simply(without pdns) ./backend.sh it's working correct(without any mistake)
[20:14] <outoftime> nacc: I suppose I have to `umount /var` and `mount -a`
[20:15] <nacc> outoftime: i would just umount /va
[20:15] <nacc> */var
[20:15] <rud0lf> hooray for ubuntu \o/ welcome 18.04
[20:15] <pavlos> Ariel17: right, you execute as user Ariel with sudo. But, when pdns runs, it has diff privileges and needs to know where java is
[20:16] <nohop> Hmm... Should I be somewhere else to notify people of these kinds of catastrophic bugs ?
[20:17] <outoftime> nacc: how?
[20:17] <pavlos> Ariel17: unless you specify absolute paths (example), ... /usr/bin/java -jar pdns.jar $@
[20:18] <nacc> outoftime: sudo umount /var?
[20:18] <pavlos> Ariel17: or wherever java was installed ... "which java" should tell you.
[20:19] <outoftime> nacc: `umount` - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZhnQWKkxPZ/
[20:19] <Ariel17> pavlos, let me check, one min pls
[20:21] <nacc> outoftime: right, that's why i suggested a reboot earlier
[20:21] <nacc> outoftime: there are open files on /var
[20:24] <ozberk> guys I have a strange issue. On a blank termina lscreen neofetch makes whole system freeze
[20:24] <JediMaster> Hi, for some reason on 18.04, every time I reboot the hostname is reset back to the original hostname, even after "hostnamectl set-hostname newhostname" and then rebooting
[20:25] <vortex_> How did you try to change itß
[20:25] <JediMaster> vortex_, with "hostnamectl set-hostname newhostname"
[20:26] <vortex_> try changing it manually by editing /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[20:27] <outoftime> nacc: i can not boot in
[20:27] <JediMaster> vortex_, same thing
[20:27] <outoftime> nacc: probably have to restore /vat from usb boot
[20:28] <Ariel17> pavlos, so, the environment path is '/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64'. Do you want me to change 'java' for '/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64'? Seems like this will give an error
[20:28] <pr3c0g> @JediMaster, is this an AWS ubuntu?
[20:28] <pr3c0g> or is it a desktop/laptop with it installed
[20:29] <vortex_> did you try a systemctl start hostname
[20:29] <vortex_> ?
[20:29] <nacc> outoftime: what happens? i'm
[20:29] <JediMaster> pr3c0g, it's Ubuntu 18.04 server latest image (I think technically still beta 2), fully up to date, running on VMWare
[20:29] <pr3c0g> I was asking this because the hostname can be set on the AWS console, and override the OS's settings
[20:30] <pr3c0g> on VMWare I'm not sure this is the case, but did you set the hostname outside the machine somewhere?
[20:30] <outoftime> nacc: system is running in low graphics mode window appears
[20:30] <pr3c0g> something on VMWare that could be overrinding this setting?
[20:30] <pavlos> Ariel17: if you define JAVA_HOME in your .bashrc and logout/login, echo JAVA_home should be good. No reason to modify the backend.sh since when the command sees java, it will look for the JAVA_HOME env Not sure that you need a sudo before java, pdns runs with elevated privs
[20:30] <JediMaster> pr3c0g, it's possible it's the open-vm-tools package
[20:30] <SoggyDingus> will 18.04 be released today?
[20:31] <nacc> outoftime: hrm, not sure what is depending on /var
[20:31] <pavlos> Ariel17: echo $JAVA_HOME
[20:31] <Ariel17> pavlos, /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64
[20:32] <pavlos> Ariel17: so JAVA_HOME is defined.
[20:32] <Ariel17> pavlos, ofc)
[20:33] <pavlos> Ariel17: now, I dont have another suggestion :(