[07:04] <aborady> when i select /dev/sda to install grub-pc , i get message cant write to this device
[07:04] <yagoo> !grub
[07:04] <aborady> yes grub 2
[07:05] <ZykoticK9> A_J, typically you need to extract the tar.gz, cd into the directory --- then run ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall (i think, refer to the documents for confirmation) BUT i don't know what you're installing so can't be certain
[07:05] <ozzyrod> can anyone please help me setup a wired connection to ubuntu 11.04
[07:06] <A_J> Please write a description for the package.
[07:06] <A_J> End your description with an empty line or EOF.
[07:06] <A_J> what goes here ^ ?
[07:06] <ozzyrod> can anyone please help me setup a wired connection to ubuntu 11.04? my system doesnt recognise BCM43XX network controler
[07:06] <aborady> apt-get install grub-pc
[07:06] <ZykoticK9> A_J, whatever you want to describe the package
[07:06] <aborady> i click ok then select /dev/sda
[07:06] <BlackWeb> Does anyone know how to make ubuntu use a certain video driver,
[07:06] <sparr> How can I make "Guest Session" an option when my screen is locked? I want other people to be able to use my computer when I'm not around
[07:07] <aborady> i get error cant write to this device
[07:07] <BlackWeb> I dpkg -l xserver and it brings up all the drivers and it appears to have a intel driver but how do i make it use it
[07:07] <mokmeister> Using 10.04: on start up, my desktop appears for approx 15 seconds before my panels. I've looked at dmesg and haven't seen anything unusual. Any idea where to look to find out what causes this delay
[07:08] <BlackWeb> it says "ii xserver-xorg-video-intel"
[07:08] <A_J> ZykoticK9, should i link you to the program i'm trying to install ?
[07:08] <ZykoticK9> BlackWeb, X "should" be able to figure it out automagically, if not, you may need to use an xorg.conf file.
[07:08] <ZykoticK9> A_J, ok - what are you installing?
[07:08] <aborady> plz how to install grub-pc
[07:08] <sklorpion> am testing thems in my irc client, can some1 please say" sklorpio blablabla
[07:08] <BlackWeb> cause when i try to enable desktop effects it wont work and some applications appear to not work right
[07:09] <ZykoticK9> sklorpion, no ;)
[07:09] <sklorpion> ZykoticK9: thank you :]
[07:09] <r0fs3ck5> BlackWeb: your device might not be supported for desktop effects.
[07:09] <BlackWeb> within xorg.conf then I see a section for device: monitor: Screen:
[07:09] <aborady> i get cant start aufs
[07:10] <A_J> http://www.mediafire.com/?qx01c4lxb2jj7lw
[07:10] <A_J> ZykoticK9, ^
[07:10] <ryoohki> anyone know about disk partitioning?
[07:10] <A_J> !gparted | ryoohki
[07:10] <r0fs3ck5> ryoohki: what is your question about disk partitioning?
[07:11] <xokvictor> can anyone tell me, which means that certifiaction of equipment? http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[07:11] <aborady> plz help installing grub 2
[07:11] <ryoohki> how many partitions can i have on a dual boot windows 7 box?
[07:11] <xokvictor> ?
[07:11] <ryoohki> only one extended partition per disc?
[07:11] <ryoohki> i mean disk
[07:11] <r0fs3ck5> ryoohki: this is not a Windows 7 help channel
[07:12] <ryoohki> dual boot
[07:12] <A_J> \s\
[07:12] <ZykoticK9> A_J, the README in that file just says use the typical: ./configure && make && sudo make install
[07:12] <r0fs3ck5> ryoohki: but I can tell you that I have safely run multiple extended partitions.
[07:12] <ryoohki> r0fs3ck5: dual boot win7 + ubuntu
[07:12] <ryoohki> r0fs3ck5: win7 takes primary partitions 1-3
[07:12] <mokmeister> aborady: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[07:13] <rodfromaus> hello, i am running ubuntu 11.04 (completlly new, sorry) and I am unable to connect to the internet via a Dell Inspiron 1525 soooo frustrated any ideas please
[07:13] <squirming_coil24> i dont see why anyone wants win 7
[07:13] <ryoohki> r0fs3ck5: i think that leaves 4 to be extended and then 3 more logical partitions?
[07:13] <ZykoticK9> ryoohki, only 1 extended (with a limit of 3 other primary), but unlimited Logical inside that extended (well obviously not unlimited)
[07:13] <A_J> ZykoticK9, :  make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[07:13] <yagoo> ryoohki, if u want to make it easier, use gpt
[07:13] <ryoohki> ZykoticK9: seems like the number of logical partitions is limited to 2 or 3
[07:13] <ZykoticK9> A_J, ? that's why compiling software is a pain.  Sorry man, I have no idea about that.
[07:14] <ZykoticK9> ryoohki, way more then 2 or 3!
[07:14] <A_J> ZykoticK9, i'm a newb at this..
[07:14] <A_J> what did i do wrong ?
[07:14] <ryoohki> what's the max number of standard pc logical partitions can there be?
[07:14] <ZykoticK9> A_J, compiling software is not for new users...
[07:14] <yagoo> ryoohki, modern OSes use gpt.. u don't have to worry about things called "primary" or "logical" partitions, thats for M$ dosmbr styled tables
[07:14] <A_J> ZykoticK9, i have no other choice
[07:15] <r0fs3ck5> ryoohki: is this a practical help request?
[07:15] <ryoohki> ZykoticK9: using gparted? i'm using that and it seems to only allow 2 logiocal partitons
[07:15] <ZykoticK9> A_J, good luck.
[07:15] <yagoo> A_J, read the readme.. u may need to use autoconf
[07:15] <A_J> ZykoticK9, if it's not too much to ask can you make a deb for me ?
[07:15] <ryoohki> r0fs3ck5: yeah, i need more partitions for ubuntu since win7 selfishly takes up 3 primary partitions
[07:16] <yagoo> ryoohki, linux doesn't need to be on an 'flagged' partition.. it can be installed even on dosmbr logical partitions.. for its swap or even for /
[07:16] <leandro220-x> hi
[07:16] <rodfromaus> running ubuntu 11.04 (completlly new, sorry) and I am unable to connect to the internet via a Dell Inspiron 1525 soooo frustrated any ideas please
[07:16] <leandro220-x> a little c++ question?  regarding ubuntu
[07:17] <ryoohki> yagoo: ubuntu only need 1 partion in theory because /boot and swap can be in the lvm
[07:17] <r0fs3ck5> ryoohki: what yagoo said.  As long as GRUB can see your Ubuntu partition, you should be fine.
[07:17] <mokmeister> rodfromaus: how are you trying to connect? Wired or wireless?
[07:17] <rodfromaus> wired
[07:17] <ryoohki> r0fs3ck5: i know but that's not what i am trying to do
[07:17] <yagoo> ryoohki, you're forgetting about swap.
[07:18] <ZykoticK9> A_J, did you run "./configure"?  did you get error(s)?  do you have build-essential installed?  I'm currently installing b-e right now, and will attempt to build in a moment, BUT i'm on AMD64.
[07:18] <ryoohki> yagoo: huh?  re-read => ubuntu only need 1 partion in theory because /boot and swap can be in the lvm
[07:18] <leandro220-x> may i ask?
[07:18] <yagoo> ryoohki, lvm volumes you want? you should of asked that
[07:18] <A_J> ZykoticK9, IT Said abgx360 requires libcurl no I installed that
[07:19] <ryoohki> yagoo: please read what i am trying to do instead of this nonsense
[07:19] <ZykoticK9> A_J, s/no/so/ ?
[07:19] <mokmeister> rodfromaus: Do you see lights on your network socket when you plug in your cable?
[07:19] <yagoo> ryoohki, Windows 7 is nonsense. I'm not even going to further take your attitude.
[07:19] <ryoohki> yagoo: it's your attitude that's bad
[07:19] <ryoohki> yagoo: please don't reply to my questions anymore
[07:20] <r0fs3ck5> ryoohki: alright, wha tis it that you are trying to do?
[07:20] <ryoohki> yagoo: please pretend i don't exist
[07:20] <leandro220-x> ??
[07:20] <ryoohki> r0fs3ck5: i said, i want to create the maximmum partitions using standard pc disk formating
[07:20] <ryoohki> r0fs3ck5: is the maximum 8 or 16?
[07:21] <A_J> i got a ok for ./configure ZykoticK9 but make and make install don't quite work : http://pastebin.com/yB8huJ5D
[07:21] <abhinav_singh> what is the difference between bash and dash shell
[07:22] <A_J> !dash | abhinav_singh
[07:22] <ryoohki> abhinav_singh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Almquist_shell
[07:23] <r0fs3ck5> ryoohki: the maximum number of primary partitions is theoretically 4
[07:23] <ryoohki> abhinav_singh: dash is a smaller less featurefull shell for executing scripts
[07:23] <ryoohki> r0fs3ck5: that's not theory
[07:23] <yagoo> o
[07:23] <yagoo> m
[07:23] <yagoo> g
[07:23] <ZykoticK9> A_J, are you sure?  "ls /usr/local/bin/abgx360" does it exist?  Try running it, if it does, "/usr/local/bin/abgx360".
[07:23] <abhinav_singh> okay well is dash default shell for ubuntu?
[07:23] <rodfromaus> mokmeister,  I have run a cable from the back of the router to the laptop, there are lights on the router and yhis pc is running from it
[07:23] <r0fs3ck5> ryoohki: and trolling old day to you too.
[07:23] <ryoohki> abhinav_singh: no, bash is for users, some scripts use dash since it's faster
[07:23] <ZykoticK9> yagoo, please don't do multi-line stuff like that...
[07:23] <rww> abhinav_singh: dash is the default shell for scripts that run /bin/sh. bash is the default for user logins.
[07:24] <ryoohki> r0fs3ck5: what?
[07:24] <abhinav_singh> okay ryoohki rww
[07:24] <moltendorf> Dumb question: I definitely needed to install the sendmail package from apt to get mail sending to work in PHP (most common solution?)? :P
[07:24] <ryoohki> abhinav_singh: rww?
[07:24] <rww> ryoohki: hrm?
[07:24] <abhinav_singh> ryoohki:  rww is the another member in the channel
[07:24] <ryoohki> rww: oh - sorry .  didn't see you in there
[07:25] <rww> :)
[07:25] <A_J> ZykoticK9, yea got the CLI working need the GUI now
[07:25] <sklorpion> ZykoticK9: again please :]
[07:26] <ZykoticK9> sklorpion, no! ;)
[07:26] <yagoo> moltendorf, there's the sendmail backend command that can be system() fired from php
[07:26] <ZykoticK9> A_J, nice.
[07:26] <A_J> ZykoticK9,  i just ran it via the path you gave
[07:26] <sklorpion> ZykoticK9: all works fine, ty :] if u come to Cracow you got beer from me :]
[07:27] <A_J> ^lol
[07:27] <nexace> hi
[07:27] <nexace> how could i use grep or some other command line tool to replace all instances of StringA with StringB in every file where it occurs?
[07:27] <moltendorf> yagoo: I had php-cgi installed by itself, and emails weren't getting out at all... Installing sendmail via aptitude install sendmail fixed the issue.
[07:27] <yagoo> nexace, wrong command.. sed does that
[07:27] <ZykoticK9> nexace, check out sed
[07:27] <nexace> roger, thank you
[07:27] <yagoo> moltendorf, u dont need php to test sendmail.. First type the command "sendmail" with arguments and see if that works first
[07:28] <rodfromaus> rockmeister | Did you receive my response re the lights?
[07:28] <yagoo> moltendorf, you're confusing me.. does it or does it not work?
[07:28] <ryoohki> nexace: find /dir/path -xdev -type f -print0 | sed -0 -I '{}' sed -i.backup -e 's/StringA/StringB/g' '{}'
[07:29] <moltendorf> yagoo: I was just wondering if I needed it installed for PHP. :P
[07:29] <ryoohki> nexace: haven't tried it but it should work
[07:29] <bullgard4> nexace: Another solution is find with the exec option.
[07:29] <ryoohki> nexace: "sed -i.backup -e 's/StringA/StringB/g' *" if it's just one directory
[07:29] <moltendorf> yagoo: It seems so, as I installed it, and reconfigured PHP slightly, which caused it to still not work, reconfigured PHP one more time caused it to work. ;)
[07:29] <A_J> ZykoticK9,  well he GUI ?
[07:29] <yagoo> moltendorf, look up php's system() command.. or maybe it's exec .. i did this along time ago..
[07:29] <A_J> the*
[07:29] <moltendorf> yagoo: However, does BIND9 need to be installed for sendmail to work?
[07:29] <ryoohki> moltendorf: no
[07:30] <yagoo> moltendorf, "."
[07:30] <ZykoticK9> A_J, i have no idea man!  sorry didn't know you where waiting on me.
[07:30] <rodfromaus> Mokmeister | you still there?
[07:30] <yagoo> moltendorf, forget php. Setup sendmail. As i said.. u dont need php to test the sendmail command
[07:30] <moltendorf> yagoo: Would it still be smart for me to set it up, even though I use my domain provider's nameservers for everything?
[07:30] <A_J> kk ZykoticK9 ty, btw can u help me with another issue, it's pretty complicated
[07:31] <yagoo> moltendorf, are you a company?
[07:31] <ZykoticK9> A_J, dunno, best just to ask the question to the channel - if i have input i'll give it
[07:31] <yagoo> moltendorf, hire someone who knows php...
[07:31] <moltendorf> yagoo: *d'oh*
[07:31] <moltendorf> yagoo: I don't think you understand the nature of my question.
[07:31] <ryoohki> moltendorf: why all the trouble to set up bind9?  if you can "ping -c 1 www.google.com" then tha's all sendmail bneeds
[07:31] <yagoo> you're asking too many professional grade questions.. you should at least know about DNS/BIND and how nameservers work with sendmail before anything.
[07:32] <abhinav_singh> moltendorf: yes you will have to install sendmail
[07:32] <ryoohki> moltendorf: yagoo is a troll.  also try a php channel
[07:33] <A_J> Okie, My USB trasfer Speeds are at the best horrible, the often slow down to a 100kbps and stall.. I transfer about 100MB of data in 4-5 mins.. Also this data has CRC errors. I have Checked Various pendrives and external HDD's Same problem. What can the Issue Be, it's kinda imp cause i have 2tb of data on this pc
[07:33] <moltendorf> I'm asking them because I just transferred from a fleet of managed, pre-configured servers to three colocation servers. :)
[07:33] <ryoohki> moltendorf: all you have to have working is client dns
[07:33] <moltendorf> ...and I am the sysadmin for them. :)
[07:34] <ryoohki> moltendorf: test dns with "ping -c 1 www.google.com" or "dig +short www.google.com"
[07:34] <moltendorf> I got it all working; I was just asking a couple of dumb questions to ensure I don't have bloat on my server. :P
[07:34] <moltendorf> I already had dns working, I had that all configured when I initially deployed my boxes on the 18th. :)
[07:35] <ryoohki> moltendorf: then sendmail should work
[07:35] <moltendorf> It does. :P
[07:35] <ryoohki> moltendorf: you can try to run dns yourslef for security but then you might make a mistake and wind up less secure
[07:35] <moltendorf> You guys are so lost at my question and how dumb it actually was, I guess. :P
[07:36] <ryoohki> moltendorf: try asking about sending mail on a php channel
[07:36] <A_J> ZykoticK9, my question ?
[07:36] <yagoo> A_J, you get CRC errors on any hd device to that usb prot?
[07:36] <ryoohki> moltendorf: you have a php question, not ubuntu
[07:36] <A_J> all usb ports yagoo
[07:36] <moltendorf> It is ubuntu related...
[07:36] <yagoo> A_J, really?
[07:36] <DrManhattan> is there a repo i need to enable to install skype?
[07:36] <ZykoticK9> A_J, sorry not something I have any experience/suggestions with/for.  Good luck man.
[07:37] <A_J> and thats because the transfer stalls, etc
[07:37] <DrManhattan> I seem to remember being able to apt-get install that
[07:37] <moltendorf> I noticed the issue when PHP was unable to send emails. :P
[07:37] <yagoo> A_J, does 'dmesg' say anything about resets/
[07:37] <A_J> ok np ZykoticK9
[07:37] <ryoohki> A_J: what does dmesg say?
[07:37]  * yagoo ignores ryoohki
[07:37] <A_J> want a pastebin ?
[07:37] <yagoo> A_J, sure.. (don't feed the troll)
[07:38] <rodfromaus> Mokmeister |is it proper procedure to wait for one who first responded? sorry 1st time here
[07:38] <ryoohki> A_J: no, the errors should repeat, just the main error
[07:38] <A_J> eth1: PCI Bus error 2290
[07:38] <elkuka> hi everyone. I need some help with my laptop. I think swap is not being read or something. natty doesn't give me the option to hibernate. ideas?
[07:38] <moltendorf> I was asking if "sendmail" is in ubuntu 11.04 by default in some nature (and as such my installation of the sendmail package was pointless), or if it is not installed by default, and installing the sendmail package is the most common way to get the needed functionality to send emails. :P
[07:39] <ryoohki> A_J: i guess eth1 is usbnet?
[07:39] <A_J>  eth1: PCI Bus error a290
[07:39] <A_J> [28806.003939] 8139too 0000:03:06.0: eth1: PCI Bus error 8290
[07:39] <illmortal> Hey guys! I need to add a list of websites into my host file in order to block these sites, do I need to add, "::" before each IP and address?
[07:39] <yagoo> A_J, don't paste things in here
[07:39] <rooks> why is gwibber such a resource hog, and are there any ways to handle it?
[07:39] <A_J> i knw
[07:40] <A_J> http://pastebin.com/LM2vy6Y0
[07:40] <brianb_> have a question re compiling  kernel: Question) if you wanted to compile a newer version kernel what version does the GCC have to be i.e. does it have to be the latest version?
[07:41] <ryoohki> A_J: are you using usbnet?  is eth1 your usb network interface?
[07:41] <illmortal> or does, "::" just comments them in order to not block them in the host file?
[07:41] <A_J>  ryoohki i did a dmesg
[07:41] <A_J> and no it's on ethernet
[07:41] <uri> Question: Ubuntu Natty has eclipse 3.5 (Galileo) as standard package. I would like to install 3.6. Anyone has experience how to install Helios on Natty?
[07:41] <ryoohki> A_J:  i saw.  is eth1 a usb netwrork interface?
[07:42] <elkuka> if my gparted everytime I restart is giving me the option to swapon, somehow it's not being used by default. possible?
[07:42] <A_J> no ryoohki
[07:42] <A_J> it must be another card i installed, havent got that working yet
[07:43] <yagoo> A_J, try opening the machine and see if there are any loose cards
[07:43] <yagoo> elkuka, swap has to be enabled in /etc/fstab
[07:44] <A_J> there ok yagoo
[07:44] <qin> moltendorf: Are you asking about server or desktop?
[07:44] <moltendorf> Server. :P
[07:44] <raiyyan> jhgkjhg
[07:45] <moltendorf> I'm pretty sure that sendmail is not installed by default though. :P
[07:45] <yagoo> A_J, you're getting an OOPS.. kernel dump.. there's a module choking somewhere
[07:45] <juleki> need help with lubuntu
[07:45] <moltendorf> Now my other question is unrelated pretty much...
[07:45] <elkuka> yagoo that's a textfile. isn't it? well it says # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
[07:45] <moltendorf> As I got sendmail to work without it (I thought it required the other thing to be set up properly to work, but it was actually an issue with PHP, not with sendmail or bind9).
[07:45] <qin> moltendorf: During install, you are asked what services you want, so it depense from image used by vps.
[07:45] <A_J> yagoo, how do i fix it ?
[07:46] <moltendorf> I only installed OpenSSH.
[07:46] <moltendorf> I know there were options for LAMP and Mail server.
[07:46] <moltendorf> But I chose to ignore them as I wanted to configure it all myself.
[07:46] <yagoo> A_J, maybe it's an irq-sharing conflict. Try allocating resources manually if its the reason
[07:46] <yagoo> A_J, like in bios has Pnp/irq-sharing options
[07:47] <yagoo> A_J, or look at any dipswitches on recent new hardware insatlled
[07:48] <A_J> yagoo,  can I access my hdd from a live cd ?
[07:48] <yagoo> A_J, notice this-> "hda-intel: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #1. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj."
[07:49] <ryoohki> A_J: this is a usb drive?  how does it showup in df?  /dev/sdb?
[07:49] <DrManhattan> how do I install the utopia bold r normal font?
[07:49] <A_J> ryoohki, shows up on desktop.. it automounts
[07:50] <ryoohki> A_J: /media/USBRIVE or soemthing like that?
[07:50] <ryoohki> A_J: it try "df- h"
[07:50] <qin> DrManhattan: tff?
[07:51] <qin> ttf*
[07:51] <yagoo> A_J, ask in #kernel.. what u can do with bdl_pos_adj.. this is another interest
[07:51] <DrManhattan> qin, I think so
[07:51]  * A_J is loosing track
[07:51] <yagoo> A_J, ignore the troll..
[07:51] <qin> DrManhattan: Copy to font folder and update.
[07:52] <A_J> yagoo, it's a hardware issue /
[07:52] <yagoo> A_J, your output mentions this IRQ timing workaround..
[07:52] <DrManhattan> qin, HMM where can I get the fonts? I have a couple I need for the starwars screensaver to work properly
[07:52] <qin> DrManhattan: directories are organized by type, it is good to keep it that way.
[07:53] <yagoo> A_J, i suggest to look into this bdl_pos_adj parameter.. i believe u can pass other options or specify a higher count value for it
[07:53] <qin> DrManhattan: acidfonts.????
[07:53] <gul> getting this error with vlc - Your video output acceleration driver does not support the required resolution: 385x282 pixels. The maximum supported resolution is 386x282.
[07:53] <gul> Video output acceleration will be disabled. However, rendering videos with overly large resolution may cause severe performance degration.
[07:53] <ryoohki> A_J: what device is this?  what does "df -h" show it as?
[07:53] <DrManhattan> utopia-bold-r-normal-*-*-720-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-180-* helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-240-*
[07:54] <DrManhattan> I need those and I suspect im just missing a package
[07:54]  * A_J plugs in device
[07:54] <ryoohki> A_J: sweet!
[07:54] <qin> DrManhattan: one sec
[07:54] <ryoohki> A_J: now we'll get some dmesg output
[07:54] <DrManhattan> qin- I appreciate the help
[07:55] <qin> DrManhattan: This screenserver, from gnome-look or ppa?
[07:55] <DrManhattan> part of the xscreensaver-gl-extra package
[07:55] <DrManhattan> but if that font is missing other programs will complain
[07:57] <A_J> ryoohki, pm ?
[07:57] <ryoohki>   A_J sure
[07:57] <gul> Video output acceleration will be disabled. However, rendering videos with overly large resolution may cause severe performance degration. Any idea?
[07:57] <datalay> lf IDLE for php development on ubuntu
[07:59] <gul> getting this error with vlc - Your video output acceleration driver does not support the required resolution: 385x282 pixels. The maximum supported resolution is 386x282.Video output acceleration will be disabled. However, rendering videos with overly large resolution may cause severe performance degration. Any idea?
[08:00] <r0fs3ck5> gul: sudo dpkg-reconfigure vlc?
[08:01] <DrManhattan> qin, I think it might be texfonts
[08:01] <DrManhattan> we'll see
[08:02] <yagoo> gul, there are video output options in vlc.. if u dont see them then toggle it on with an advanced option
[08:02] <qin> DrManhattan: texlive-recomended
[08:02] <DrManhattan> yeah im installing it now
[08:02] <DrManhattan> I appreciate the help
[08:02] <gul> r0fs3ck5: no same error
[08:02] <DrManhattan> now if i can figure out what repo i nee to enable for skype
[08:03] <gul> yagoo- ??? please clearify
[08:03] <yagoo> DrManhattan, i never used skype.. does it work good in linux?
[08:04] <evilbug> yagoo: skype works fine in linux.
[08:04] <DrManhattan> yeah it does
[08:04] <qin> DrManhattan: Just get deb from skype website
[08:04] <DrManhattan> I usually have to use the static package and run it with PULSE_SERVER=localhost
[08:04] <DrManhattan> but it works great
[08:04] <yagoo> DrManhattan, hopefully even next year.. who knows maybe M$ might knock off the repo :)))
[08:04] <r0fs3ck5> DrManhattan: skype is in the official repositories for the time being
[08:04] <RudyValencia> How do I force Ubuntu to do an fsck on boot?
[08:05] <DrManhattan> ugh I forgot about the buyout
[08:05] <yagoo> lol
[08:05] <yagoo> 8.5 billion is quite alot..
[08:05] <yagoo> quite hard to forget that.. it's like one of the biggest company buyouts in history
[08:05] <r0fs3ck5> DrManhattan: I've been using ekiga as a fallback
[08:06] <DrManhattan> Jesus - still not registering with the screensaver
[08:06] <qin> DrManhattan: Convert your buddies to ekiga
[08:06] <DrManhattan> yeah, right
[08:06] <yagoo> m$ is going to drop it for linux.. i'm 100% sure..
[08:07] <yagoo> there's already Ballmer speeching about integrating it with their products etc etc..
[08:07] <DrManhattan> qin, no luck on the fonts
[08:08] <WoundedPhoenix> So I have a disk partitioning question. I've got partition issues and I'm trying to fix it in an ubuntu liveCD. Actually, I want to install ubuntu to the drive, but can't until I fix the partition issues...
[08:08] <Flannel> RudyValencia: touch /forcefsck
[08:08] <WoundedPhoenix> Partition managers see no partitions on the drive.
[08:08] <WoundedPhoenix> But when I'm booted into the live environ, it'll mount my NTFS just fine.
[08:09] <RudyValencia> Flannel: yeah that works
[08:09] <qin> DrManhattan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/222367
[08:09] <DrManhattan> qin, that's no biggie - but the font isnt installed
[08:10] <WoundedPhoenix> currently running gpart in terminal, and it keeps coming up with read errr and short reads, but it's skipping them all.  Any sugesstions on repairing whatever's wrong (or a general "partition issue repair" program) so I don't have to wipe and re-create the partition tabe (effectively losing the data on my NTFS) when I install Ubuntu?
[08:10] <Milossh> hello. Where can I set the pref for opening http/https links?
[08:10] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: You probably have an invalid partition table.
[08:10] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[08:10] <WoundedPhoenix> Milossh: Preferences: Preferred aplications
[08:10] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: one moment
[08:11] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Also, the output of "dmesg".
[08:11] <Milossh> WoundedPhoenix, yep, but I can't set the web browser, 'cause I didn't install it from packages
[08:11] <Milossh> at least I think that's the reason
[08:12] <LigH> Good morning.
[08:12] <r0fs3ck5> gm
[08:13] <yagoo> DrManhattan, you really should drop skype. I bet you linux client will be cut.. so I believe qin is right.. you have to convert :p
[08:13] <LigH> Ubuntu 11.04 (both 32b and 64b): I have no combobox to switch the desktop (Unity/Classic...) in the login screen bottom bar. Already looking in Launchpad for gdm bugs, but not sure what the correct term is.
[08:14] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, i usually use gparted.. it's easier
[08:15] <r0fs3ck5> yagoo: My skype client won't tell me who is online.
[08:15] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: Here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/UsrdedRZ  That's only the parted -l and the last 2048 lines of dmesg, I need to increase my terminal scrollback if you want more, but I think you'll see the issue.
[08:16] <xokvictor> who know why ubuntu.com not responded?
[08:17] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, tee
[08:17] <xokvictor> already worked
[08:17] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: How was this partition table created? Did you dd an image from a larger drive?
[08:17] <sinistrad> I'm wanting to move my /home & /var partitions (standard partitions) to another drive (sata raid1). I'm guessing this is easiest done via liveCD or can it be done inside of the running install?
[08:17] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: I'm also running gpart so it may be logging to dmesg. if so, ick.
[08:18] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: No, this was created originally by a Toshiba Vista restore disk back in 2009.
[08:18] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, are you hotplugging this drive?
[08:18] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: Since then I have tried to install Windows XP when Vista crapped out, and since I couldn't get XP to install I told my wife she was going to get a working OS, and learn to like it.
[08:19] <aborady> hey i just install a fresh copy of ubuntu 11.4 after i installed grub 2 i lost the animating ubuntu logo on start up
[08:19] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: no, it's the master drive for the laptop.
[08:19] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, is it ssd?
[08:19] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Odd, because parted thinks that it's describing a partition which is outside the disk, e.g. a partition described as ending 800 GiB into a 500 GiB disk.
[08:19] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: And parted is rarely wrong.
[08:19] <aborady> its just black then it loads normally evrything is good
[08:19] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: yeah I know. I don't have a clue what caused that.
[08:20] <aborady> plz anybody know why animating loho on startup disappeared ?
[08:20] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[08:20] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: I've got one graphical partition manager to show me the NTFS part, the toshiba partition, and a blank partition of something like multi-hundred terrabytes.
[08:20] <WoundedPhoenix> Yagoo: SSD?
[08:20] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, i heard of ssd-specialized tools if it's an ssd thats what i was asking
[08:20] <DrManhattan> qin, how do I go about installing fonts manually? is there some sort of app for this?
[08:21] <LigH> WoundedPhoenix: Solid State Disk
[08:21] <yagoo> solidstate drive (meaning non-platter spin disk)
[08:21] <yagoo> ssd are quiet.. no noise..
[08:21] <rhin0> help -- dead system -- can take the drive out -- drive is 64 bit ubuntu 10.04 -- I need to put the drive into a 32 bit system -- will the 32 bit mainboard still be able to MOUNT the 64 bit ubuntu volume
[08:21] <yagoo> rhin0, yes
[08:21] <mac_> help me in downloading youtube videos
[08:21] <WoundedPhoenix> Yagoo: Oh, solid state, no, it's not.
[08:21] <Seventoes|Work> Anyone here good with Munin? #munin hasn't moved for like 4 days
[08:22] <yagoo> rhin0, an easy solution is to boot with livecd.. muont it and backup data to a usb drive
[08:22] <rhin0> right -- mount the ext4 volume from the 32 bit system even though the ext4 volume is part of a 64 bit ubuntu installation
[08:22] <yagoo> rhin0, correct.
[08:22] <aborady> the ubuntu animating logo at startup disappeared , can anybody help ?
[08:22] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: Any idea on a good application to fix the partition table damage?
[08:22] <rhin0> yagoo it just went *pop* and then nothing --- I get the impression that it could be the main unit has blown the power supply
[08:22] <yagoo> rhin0, oh..
[08:22] <rhin0> so I won't plug a brand new power supply into the main unit -- separate power supply
[08:22] <yagoo> rhin0, that's bad..
[08:23] <rhin0> because power supplies like on dell optiplex don't just "blow" for nothing
[08:23] <rhin0> yes it is bad but If I get the data back its less bad
[08:23] <yagoo> rhin0, just get an ext enclosure for it.. backup what u can as soon as u turn it on.. if u cant then well bad luck :/
[08:23] <rhin0> an ext enclosure yagoo?
[08:24] <yagoo> those boxes where u place the harddrive in.. that's (external enclosure)
[08:24] <rhin0> gotcha you mean a new system
[08:24] <yagoo> that's called system unit (geek talk:))
[08:24] <yagoo> this is ext enclosure..
[08:24]  * rhin0 honks I am a geek too
[08:24] <Seventoes|Work> mhhhmmmmmm….
[08:25] <yagoo> or more accurately called hd ext enclosure
[08:25] <rhin0> its going into an older dell I have nothing that specialised
[08:25] <yagoo> at least this way u can minimize damage to other systems u try the faulty drive on
[08:25] <rhin0> unlikely a drive will have BLOWN UP THE PC or power supply
[08:26] <yagoo> well it can knock out the whole usb controller
[08:26] <r0fs3ck5> yagoo: It would be pretty rare for a hdd to damage the PSU or MB
[08:27] <aborady> heeeeey my usplash disappeared
[08:27] <aborady> ubuntu 11.4
[08:27] <aborady> any suggestions
[08:28] <yagoo> aborady, maybe it's not compatible
[08:28] <aborady> it stopped since install grub 2
[08:28] <Jordan_U> !pm | mac_
[08:28] <yagoo> aborady, u talking about an .xpm ?
[08:28] <WoundedPhoenix> Hmm okay, so no one with a suggestion? heh I'm at my wits end, with around 50 gigs of data I don't want to lose.
[08:28] <WoundedPhoenix> :(
[08:29] <nincompooop> WoundedPhoenix: disk failure?
[08:29] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, can u mount the partition?
[08:29] <aborady> am atalking about animating ubuntu logo on startup
[08:29] <Jordan_U> aborady: Can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub?
[08:29] <WoundedPhoenix> Yagoo: yes, but I have no place to offload it to.
[08:29] <aborady> yes
[08:29] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, did u try gparted?
[08:29] <sklorpion> im using conky, when i start it manually its ok, but when i put it in autostart of gnome i makes strange window which is always "on top"? Any suggestions?
[08:29] <yagoo> the download is like 100 meg for the livecd iso
[08:29] <nincompooop> WoundedPhoenix: I would volunteer some disk space, but... I'm not a good candidate for that... XD
[08:30] <WoundedPhoenix> Yagoo: gparted shows no partitions.
[08:30] <nincompooop> sklorpion: change the "on top" setting in the config files?
[08:30] <aborady> http://pastebin.com/xZFpjXcX
[08:30] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: fixparts is good, but before you actually apply any changes be sure you understand what exactly has gone wrong.
[08:30] <nincompooop> sklorpion: conky doesn't have bad documentation, try googling it.
[08:30] <amin`> hello I have dell laptop and I have and update my BIOS from the time i bought it, more than 2 years how could I update my BIOS  do I have to find each update chronologically and apply them one by one or the latest one suffice
[08:31] <amin`> hello I have dell laptop 1545
[08:31]  * WoundedPhoenix looks up fixparts
[08:31] <nincompooop> amin`: each bios "package" should contain the COMPLETE BIOS
[08:31] <aborady> http://pastebin.com/xZFpjXcX
[08:31] <nincompooop> not some incremental change file
[08:31] <sklorpion> nincompooop: but strange thing is that it works grate and normally when i lunch it manually. Problem appear when i put it in autostart of gnome, then window looks different
[08:32] <amin`> nincompooop: so the latest one is enough
[08:32] <nincompooop> sklorpion: hmm, maybe they have a channel on IRC...
[08:32] <nincompooop> amin`: mmhm
[08:32] <yagoo> amin`, bios upgrades are independent of each other.. so the latest bios doesn't have to apply to the just prior version for upgrade
[08:32] <amin`> nincompooop: means YEs?
[08:32] <nincompooop> amin`: yes.
[08:32] <amin`> nincompooop: how should i do It use ubuntu and have no windows access?
[08:32] <yagoo> amin`, (if u have v3 and want v5.. u don't need to upgrade to v4 first< for example)
[08:32] <sklorpion> nincompooop: yes they do i'll go there
[08:32] <amin`> nincompooop: any special package?
[08:33] <amin`> yagoo: have should i do it?
[08:33] <nincompooop> amin`: your laptop should have some method of "flashing" it in... EG: writing it to a CD, having it on a flash drive, writing it onto a floppy disk
[08:33] <aborady> i pastebin my /etc/default/grub
[08:33] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l".
[08:33] <aborady> http://pastebin.com/xZFpjXcX
[08:34] <yagoo> amin`, u can read the release notes.. most of the time bios upgrades are not problematic
[08:34] <yagoo> amin`, if its a laptop of course plugin the ac adapter
[08:34] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: one sec
[08:34] <amin`> nincompooop: `you mean I do not have to install windows and the install BOIS update software on it?
[08:35] <nincompooop> amin`: nope.
[08:35] <Jordan_U> aborady: Remove " splash vga=769" from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX.
[08:35] <nincompooop> amin`: there are usually multiple ways to update bios...
[08:35] <nincompooop> amin`: try finding some documentation on how to do it outside of windows.
[08:35] <bolt12> hi Everyone
[08:35] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/qbWj4kdA
[08:35] <Jordan_U> aborady: splash is already included in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and "vga=769" is depricated and will at best do nothing.
[08:36] <nincompooop> amin`: for example, my ATOM motherboard supports doing it in windows, out of a CD, out of a flash drive, booting off of a "special" OS, and "backup mode"
[08:37] <amin`> nincompooop: it just says: TWO ways: for windows and ssecond the dos mode for non-windows user..
[08:37] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: It looks like you just took the output from "sudo parted -l" and replaced "parted" with "fdisk". I need the actual output of "sudo fdisk -l".
[08:37] <WoundedPhoenix> duh sorry
[08:37] <nincompooop> amin`: you can write a CD with DOS in it and write it that way...
[08:37] <WoundedPhoenix> no wait
 ok i gonna restart and see
[08:38] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, sr0 is cdrom/dvdrom thats not ur harddrive
[08:38] <WoundedPhoenix> that IS the output of sudo fdisk -l
[08:38] <amin`> nincompooop: okie dokie?
[08:38] <amin`> how?
[08:38] <amin`> just write the drive on cd and it is bootable
[08:39] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: Here, here it is with /dev/sda specified http://pastebin.com/ATnKGSvv
 i still see black screen instead of the splash
[08:40] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, that fdisk is old considering 2006 :./
[08:41] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, try doing it under #
 after i select ubuntu from grub menu i see black screen till login
[08:41] <WoundedPhoenix> Yagoo: 10.04
[08:42] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, is it gpt or dosmbr?
[08:42] <WoundedPhoenix> ?
[08:42] <WoundedPhoenix> dosmbr i think
[08:43] <nincompooop> amin`: http://www.nenie.org/misc/flashbootcd.html << looks like a good guide
[08:43] <DrManhattan> jesus this sucks with the fonts.
[08:43] <WoundedPhoenix> got the puter in, uhm, 2008
[08:43] <yagoo> DrManhattan, i always use Terminus font
[08:43] <nincompooop> DrManhattan: what fonts? (just wondering)
[08:43] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: http://pastebin.com/0UX8r9wu
[08:43] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/0UX8r9wu
[08:43] <WoundedPhoenix> Now.
[08:43] <WoundedPhoenix> same results.
[08:43] <WoundedPhoenix> but as root.
[08:43] <WoundedPhoenix> telling you. it's fdisk.
[08:44] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, what edition is the livecd ?/
[08:44] <nincompooop> yagoo: 0.o
[08:44] <yagoo> (don't use chroot)
[08:44] <nincompooop> yagoo: the liveCDs have different versions...
[08:44] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Can you pastebin the output of "fdisk --version"?
[08:44] <yagoo> nincompooop, I know that.
[08:44] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: 10.04 (lynx)
[08:45] <WoundedPhoenix> Gnu fdisk 1.2.4
[08:45] <yagoo> Jordan_U, he already did.. are u looking at his links?
[08:45] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: That's really not pastebin necessary.. GNU fdisk 1.2.4
[08:45] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, did u use the ubuntu installer to make partitions or did u use another partition tool before?
[08:46] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: Partitions were in place on the drive before.
[08:46] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, using what?
[08:46] <aborady> heeeey i dunno wheres my usplash
[08:46] <WoundedPhoenix> Yagoo: Partitions were made by the Toshiba Windows Vista restore disk.
[08:46] <aborady> can i reinstall it or something
[08:46] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, it may have made gpt table then..
[08:46] <WoundedPhoenix> Yagoo: when I reinstalled vista back in 2009.
[08:47] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, it's likely a gpt table..
[08:47] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: How do I tell?
[08:47] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, so this means that any tool older than a year for gpt tool in linux isn't good
[08:47] <WoundedPhoenix> Yagoo: What's a good partition tool for gpt?  That way I can partition my drive and still install linux.
[08:48] <WoundedPhoenix> Speaking of, this is a question I should know the answer to, but...
[08:48] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, the one i mentioned awhile ago.. :).. it does dosmbr and gpt very well (gparted)
[08:48] <yagoo> also the one u used parted i believe does gpt good as well
[08:48] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: That's the exact output you get from running exactly "fdisk --help"?
[08:48] <WoundedPhoenix> Yagoo: I have gparted on this system. I guess I just need to upate it ;)
[08:49] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: you didn't ask for --help, you asked for --version
[08:49] <aborady> hey i keep asking but nobody reply
[08:49] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, gparted gui is smart.. it does e2fsck automatically for u
[08:49] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Sorry, I meant is that the exact output you get from exactly "fdisk --version"?
[08:49] <aborady> plz can anybody help me with my problem my Usplash is gone
[08:49] <yagoo> aborady, look into anything with .xpm .. i'm guessing ur talkinb about grub's splash screen
[08:49] <nincompooop> aborady: sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash?
[08:50] <WoundedPhoenix> This is a stupid question I should know the answer to, but if I install 10.04, and use the automatic updates, it will update me (eventually) to the latest version, right? with the new dock, and all the new spiffyness? Or do I have to download the CD and re-install/upgrade?
[08:50] <aborady> is not installed and no info is available.
[08:50] <yagoo> aborady, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/startup-manager-change-settings-in-grub-grub2-and-usplash.html
[08:50] <DrManhattan> christ on a crutch I can't believe it's this difficult to install a friggin font
[08:51] <yagoo> DrManhattan, it's easy.. u copy to ~/.fonts and fc-cache -<> something parameter
[08:51] <rww> !upgrade | WoundedPhoenix
[08:51] <DrManhattan> yeah well, I can't seem to find the proper helvetica or utopia
[08:51] <rww> WoundedPhoenix: in short, you'd need to change some settings to receive non-LTS upgrade notes, then upgrade 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04
[08:52] <rww> WoundedPhoenix: or do nothing, wait until April 2012 and go 10.04 -> 12.04.
[08:52] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: What is the exact output you get from running exactly "fdisk --version"? Sorry for asking so many questions that may seem trivial. This is the last one.
[08:52] <mh512> hi, is there anyway to boot w/o X from the grub menu?
[08:52] <yagoo> Jordan_U, he already answered that. it's also on his pasteboards
[08:52] <mh512> I cant boot after installing "pointing devices"
[08:53] <yagoo> mh512, a packagename can't have a space in it.. you liar! :p
[08:53] <yagoo> mh512, u can try ctl-alt-f<#> ..
[08:53] <yagoo> !cli
[08:54] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: root@ubuntu:~# fdisk --version
[08:54] <WoundedPhoenix> GNU Fdisk 1.2.4
[08:54] <aborady> startup manager is missing options here
[08:54] <mh512> i cant get to the ctrl-alt-f<#> stage
[08:54] <aborady> no appearance tab
[08:54] <aborady> no show boot splash option
[08:54] <aborady> i already installed it b4 and when i see ur link i knew theres something strange
[08:55] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: but I just downloaded gparted (the latest version) to see if that works with the drive (i.e. it's a gpt?? table)
[08:55] <yagoo> aborady, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUsplash
[08:55] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, gpt is better
[08:56] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, but not all linux tools are updated for it.. so use gnu-fdisk/parted/gparted
[08:56] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, that 2006 gnu-fdisk is too old imho
[08:57] <WoundedPhoenix> funny, that's what 10.04 installed. heh.
[08:59] <yagoo> aborady, I use 'wiki ubuntu' in my google search to find those urls
[08:59] <aborady> my issue is strange
[08:59] <aborady> i've no /etc/usplash.conf file
[08:59] <yagoo> aborady, google
[08:59] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: yagoo: I am sorry but that's simply not possible. Among other things fdisk, unlike parted and most other commands, does not accept long arguments (even --version). "fdisk --version" should have given you an error message, and your other pastes are consistent with you not actually running fdisk but instead modifying the output of parted. That or you are not using Ubuntu but instead another distribution with an entirely different fdisk ...
[08:59] <Jordan_U> ... from any I have seen before (and whose output exactly matches that of parted). The most likely explanation I can think of is that you are lying, though I don't know why.
[09:00] <aborady> i'm searching now i happened b4 with 10.10 but startup  manager solve it
[09:00] <aborady> no it cant be solve by startupmanager
[09:01] <yagoo> Jordan_U, i don't know the details how gpt is treated with 10.x ubuntu.. probably the ubuntu installer 10.x by default prefers dosmbr for its included tools
[09:01] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: thanks for the vote of confidence.
[09:01] <yagoo> Jordan_U, also the package gnu-fdisk is replacing the older fdisk which does not do gpt
[09:02] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, ^ meant to say that to you
[09:02] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: OK, it appears there is another version of fdisk which is based on libparted, but it is not installed in Ubuntu by default.
[09:03] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Can you install uninstall the package "gnu-fdisk" and provide the output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[09:03] <yagoo> ?
[09:03] <yagoo> fdisk is gnu-fdisk
[09:03] <sklorpion> question: i need temp from my CPU so i did /usr/bin/sensors | grep Core1 | cut -c15-16 | xargs       but the problem is im getting "20 22" and i want only one number. How and what i should modify?
[09:03] <yagoo> it's the same binary name.. but it's not the tradidional fdisk that doesnt do gpt
[09:03] <Jordan_U> yagoo: No, gnu-fdisk isn't even in main.
[09:04] <sini_laptop> I installed 2 drives as raid1, and set them up in bios (the motherboard supports it). gpt still sees them as 2 drives (sda & sdc)
[09:04] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: The package gnu-fdisk is installed.
[09:04] <Jordan_U> yagoo: The standard fdisk is from util-linux, not GNU.
[09:04] <Seventoes|Work> is there a "right" way to make init-d scripts run as another user?
[09:04] <sklorpion>    /usr/bin/sensors    <- this gives me 4 numebers in each line so i grep to have Core1 temp, but those are two, i donno how to cut one off
[09:04] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[09:04] <WoundedPhoenix> Quick question, what would the most likely /dev/??? be for my multi-card reader?
[09:04] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Please uninstall it. I need the standard util-linux version of fdisk's output.
[09:05] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: can do.
[09:05] <akashm1990> can the colour of the GRUB bootloader be changed?
[09:05] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, this fdisk, you installed this fdisk outside from ubuntu?
[09:06] <Jordan_U> akashm1990: Yes.
[09:06] <yagoo> akashm1990, i'm sure it ican
[09:06] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: No, I installed gnu-fdisk from within ubuntu.
[09:06] <akashm1990> Jordan_U,could you tell me how?
[09:06] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, ok.. that makes Jordan_U troll#2 today :)
[09:06] <yagoo> Jordan_U, you're a noob.
[09:07] <rww> !noob | yagoo
[09:07] <yagoo> ok
[09:07] <rww> yagoo: Additionally, please don't call people trolls. It doesn't help the situation and makes things more difficult for the channel operators.
[09:08] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: okay, now it starts with this:
[09:08] <WoundedPhoenix> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# fdisk --version
[09:08] <WoundedPhoenix> fdisk: invalid option -- '-'
[09:08] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Sorry for the accusation by the way, I was not aware of another version of fdisk and believe it or not I have had to recently deal with people modifying output of commands to hide things.
[09:08] <yagoo> Jordan_U, you obviously don't know how to help him with his problem.. Can you let me help him?
[09:08] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Good, that's the version I want then :)
[09:09] <c1728p9> hello
[09:09] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: no worries. My sd card reader isn't working under the live CD or I would have pasted a youtube link of my bloody well typing "fdisk --version" and showing the output, lol, and we would have left it there. :P  But seriously, no worries.
[09:09] <WoundedPhoenix> oka, so what do you need from it?
[09:09] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, dude.. that's completely new story..
[09:09] <c1728p9> is this the right place to ask install questions?
[09:09] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: The output of "sudo fdisk -lu".
[09:10] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, that is not a HARDDRIVE :)
[09:10] <yagoo> lol
[09:10] <squirmingcoil> sorry
[09:10] <squirmingcoil> accident
[09:11] <rww> squirmingcoil: 'sokay. just don't do it again ;)
[09:11] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/qt3JywaB
[09:11] <squirmingcoil> ya i was registering some stuff and i forgot u could see it
[09:11] <squirmingcoil> my bad
[09:11] <PCdoc> WoundedPhoenix: can u plz re-tell the initial problem u have ?
[09:12] <c1728p9> when ubuntu is installed is the windows master boot recored overwritten?
[09:12] <squirmingcoil> ide like to kno that as well
[09:12] <PCdoc> c1728p9: yep and u need to recover windows for that ...
[09:13] <WoundedPhoenix> PCdoc: PArtition managers cannot locate partitions when I go to install ubuntu. However, ubuntu live CD recognizes and mounts my NTFS just fine.
[09:13] <WoundedPhoenix> PCdoc: I'm using 10.04
[09:13] <squirmingcoil> do you have to nuke a hard drive to get rid of all traces of an operating system?
[09:13] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: The problem is sda2 which according to the partition table ends at sector 234452609 , even though your drive is only 234441648 sectors large.
[09:13] <WoundedPhoenix> I'm working on installing the latest version of gparted so to see if the last time the drive was partitioned it was done in the new-fangled style
[09:13] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, use the livecd?
[09:14] <PCdoc> WoundedPhoenix: i asked coz i recently fixed my pc ... the other ntfs and logical drives and usb drives were not mounting after I upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10
[09:14] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: You are not using GPT.
[09:14] <c1728p9> PCdoc: do you need the windows install disk to return the master boot record to what it was before the install?
[09:14] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: So how do I fix the overrun?
[09:14] <PCdoc> c1728p9: u want to dual boot ?
[09:14] <onetwo> hi i need some help concerning a connection to a specific ip adress..i cannot ping and cannot tracert to that ip..when i use a webtool for this the server answers as desired..so i think my routing is somehow affected..i have tried to reset and clear dns cache but still no success
[09:14] <inso> Hjälp behövs
[09:15] <c1728p9> PCdoc: yeah but im afraid im gonna mess it up and not be able to fix the mbr
[09:15] <PCdoc> c1728p9: dont b i have .. fixed them a lot of times :P
[09:15] <sini_laptop> I'm trying to install 2 drives as raid1. The drives show up in bios, and I set them as mirrored. When I view them in fdisk -l or gparted, they show up as 2 disks instead of 1. I'm wanting to move /home and /var to the raid partitions. How should I go about this?
[09:15] <PCdoc> it wont destroy ur data :P
[09:15] <iceman8489> hey when i run  echo 'main(){}' > dummy.c && gcc -o dummy dummy.c i get the error collect2: cannot find 'ld'
[09:15] <c1728p9> PCdoc: yeah but i dont' have the windows install cd.  Can i fix it without that?
[09:15] <WoundedPhoenix> inso: Är det möjligt för dig att tala på engelska?
[09:16] <PCdoc> c1728p9: yeah just hang on
[09:16] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: You can fix it within fdisk by deleting that partiton entry and replacing it with one which has the same starting point but ends at the end of the disk rather than past the end.
[09:16] <PCdoc> do u have the live ubuntu cd ?
[09:16] <c1728p9> PCdoc: yeah, I havent worked up enough guts to install it though lol
[09:17] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: won't that destroy all the data on that partition?
[09:17] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, gparted live cd allows to resize ntfs non-destructively
[09:17] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: what about gparted running from ubuntu livecd ;)
[09:17] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, I can only guess earlier whether it may be gpt/dosmbr it's irrelevant now.. looking at that last post
[09:18] <WoundedPhoenix> cause I can't burn a CD when I'm running a liveCD
[09:18] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, thats fine.. it's dosmbr
[09:18] <c1728p9> PCdoc: also how hard it is to set ubuntu as my default though the new linux mbr?
[09:18] <iceman8489> hey when i run  echo 'main(){}' > dummy.c && gcc -o dummy dummy.c i get the error collect2: cannot find 'ld'
[09:19] <PCdoc> c1728p9: u need to install startup-manager from the synaptic manager
[09:19] <manlymatt83> Question... the new Ubuntu 11.04 takes some getting used to.  I accidentally hit the "windows" key and somehow opened up banshee (since it is linked to "listen to music") and all of a sudden all these directories got created, like Ubuntu One, etc.  Ubuntu won't auto-sync my music anywhere or anything like that without me explicitly signing up right?
[09:19] <PCdoc> or u can use sudo apt-get install startup-manager from the terminal
[09:19] <Guest34932> hello
[09:19] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: No. An entry in a partition table is simply some bits stating where a partition starts and where it ends, changing the partition table alone doesn't change the contents at all (though if you make the new partition entry wrong then the filesystem contained within the partition will not be properly accessible).
[09:19] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, however the ubuntu installer may set the wrong boot partition for winbloze.. just change the # afterwards (bootmgr is not on /dev/sda1 )
[09:19] <PCdoc> from there u can choose what operating system u wanna default and set timeout if none is selected etc
[09:19] <WoundedPhoenix> hmm.
[09:19] <c1728p9> PCdoc: can i install that after i install ubuntu?
[09:19] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Fixparts will probably fix the partition table for you in an automated way if you'd prefer.
[09:19] <c1728p9> PCdoc: ok cool
[09:19] <PCdoc> c1728p9: that is to be installed only after installing u ubuntu
[09:20] <Guest34932> yes
[09:20] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, u dont have to worry about partition resizing.. gparted is included in the ubuntu installer.. (gparted resizes filesystem and updates partition table)
[09:20] <tx0105> i've given up on Unity
[09:20] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, trust me.
[09:20] <tx0105> hopefully it magically becomes amazing in 11.10
[09:21] <Jordan_U> yagoo: As libparted refuses to modify partition tables which are invalid in this way gparted will not be able to fix this particular issue.
[09:21] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: I'm using Ubunto 10.04, remember?
[09:21] <c1728p9> PCdoc: can you turn the timout off for choosing an operating system?
[09:21] <c1728p9> PCdoc: well not turn it off, just have it automatically go to one operating system
[09:21] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, i'm saying don't use the manual tools.. it's too cumbersome.. if u use a partition editor in command mode.. u have to make sure u do both->filesystem resize and partitiontable update.. gparted takes off all this worries and does both transparently
[09:22] <WoundedPhoenix> =The stuff included with 10.04 dos NOT recognize my partitions, and will NOT fix them automatically. the gparted included with ubuntu 10.04 does NOT fix it.
[09:22] <iceman8489> hi can someone help me out
[09:22] <PCdoc> c1728p9: if u select none when it asks u .. it will automatically load the default one
[09:22] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, you mentioned other things like sdcards.. try unplugging everything else and have just that drive seen
[09:22] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: If I do an install I have two options 1) format the entire drive 2) do it manually, which gives me 1 option: create a new partition that covers some or all of the entire drive.
[09:22] <WoundedPhoenix> nothing was plugged in then.
[09:22] <PCdoc> after a timeout seconds u have set
[09:23] <PCdoc> like i have set to 10 seconds
[09:23] <c1728p9> PCdoc: can i just set one as the primary so there is no countdown?
[09:23] <lillem4n> If my touchpad stops working, and it starts working if I reboot. Is there a way to fix it again without rebooting?
[09:23] <PCdoc> c1728p9: its difficult to tell step by step so here is the link u shld read them and follow the steps .. the steps for recovering ubuntu after windows or recovering  windows after ubuntu are almost same https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:24] <bullgard4> [OO.o 3.2] What does an embedded HSQL database do with the information contained in its file /database/script?
[09:24] <WoundedPhoenix> ok, I'm going to try to fx this with fdisk. if that dont work install the new gparted. if THAT dont work, im taking 4 freaking xanax and going to bed because I am literally shaking, I've been trying to get this computer working for over a week.
[09:24] <c1728p9> PCdoc: ok thanks
[09:24] <PCdoc> c1728p9: if u set that then there's no need for dual bot .. just have ubuntu or windows and delete the other os
[09:24] <WoundedPhoenix> and no not only on linux.
[09:24] <manlymatt83> ok...
[09:24] <fratzbc> anybody having knowledge of gidentd?
[09:24] <PCdoc> dual boot *
[09:24] <iceman8489> het when i run  echo 'main(){}' > dummy.c && gcc -o dummy dummy.c i get the error collect2: cannot find 'ld'
[09:25] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Since the partition table is incorrect be prepared for the fileystem to be damaged already if it also was trying to use an area of the disk which does not exist. The good news is that the area past the end of the disk was less than 10 MiB large, so I doubt there will be any data loss.
[09:25] <PCdoc> WoundedPhoenix: one reason for not detecting partitions at install or afterr install is the partition is damaged or is in incorrect order
[09:25] <PCdoc> yeah Jordan_U :)
[09:26] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, looking again at ur fdisk list.. why is partiton 1 id 27?
[09:26] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: yeah, I won't be crying much if it's lost
[09:26] <KM0201> c1728p9: i *believe* if you set grub2 "Timeout" to -1   it turns the countdown off
[09:26] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: It's a Toshiba factory/system partition.
[09:26] <WoundedPhoenix> It contains a boot image and boot loader.
[09:26] <WoundedPhoenix> I have no effing clue what's on it as I've never managed to get it to boot.
[09:27] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, it's probably protected
[09:27] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, that's outside my scope..
[09:27] <PCdoc> Jordan_U: i used testdisk software in terminal to fix the mounting problem after upgrading to 11.04 from 10.10
[09:27] <WoundedPhoenix> I'm going to try to figure out how to get it to boot in GRUB one of these days.
[09:27] <WoundedPhoenix> cause I'm curious as heck as to what's on it.
[09:27] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, is this a laptop?
[09:27] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: ya.
[09:27] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, what's hte model?
[09:27] <KM0201> WoundedPhoenix: i doubt yuo'll get a restore partition to boot in grub, but it's possible i guess
[09:27] <WoundedPhoenix> Satellite A215-S5808
[09:28] <KM0201> WoundedPhoenix: what have you done to try and get it to boot.?
[09:28] <DrManhattan> how can I get vsync in flash videos
[09:28] <DrManhattan> I don't care for the line in them
[09:28] <DrManhattan> I have applied the setting in nvidia-settings, however flash appears to ignore it
[09:28] <WoundedPhoenix> KM0201: tried a few different techniques a friend told me in the windows boot loader (XP)
[09:29] <KM0201> WoundedPhoenix: well thats dumb right from the get go
[09:29] <PCdoc> WoundedPhoenix: use this in windows (if u have) http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk to automatically fix the corrupted partition
[09:29] <KM0201> WoundedPhoenix: out of curiosity, did you try F10, while booting?
[09:29] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, research see if toshiba bios is protecting the partition table
[09:29] <KM0201> WoundedPhoenix: http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f108/solved-toshiba-a210-recovery-partition-326954.html
[09:30] <PCdoc> << bbl
[09:31] <BlessJah> bzip2 gzip xz zip lzip lzma, which is best for compressing 500MB mpeg file? (which will produce smallest file)
[09:31] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: I'm writing up instructions now.
[09:31] <Henke37> I was dualbooting ubuntu with windows 7, it's been a while since I last used ubuntu and now it only shows some error about ntfs or something before rebooting before I can read the error
[09:32] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, what's the bios version? apparently there's a bootissue fix for one of the bios editions
[09:33] <riz|work> BlessJah: mpeg is already compressed, zip won't save you much
[09:33] <BlessJah> riz|work: and rest of them?
[09:33] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, upgrade to the latest bios.. it may do some magiv
[09:33] <yagoo> magic
[09:34] <yagoo> :)
[09:34] <WoundedPhoenix> KM0201: f10? no... what does f10 do?
[09:34] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Ok. First unmount sda1 and sda2 (if they're mounted) "sudo umount /dev/sda1; sudo umount /dev/sda2" should do that (and if they're already unmounted it won't hurt anything). Then run "sudo parted -u /dev/sda" that should bring you to a new prompt. Type "d" (for Delete) and hit return. Then type "2" for partition 2, then type "n" for new partition, "p" for primary, "2" to create partition number 2, "3074048" to have it start at sector ...
[09:34] <WoundedPhoenix> f10 isn't a listed option on my bootscreen
[09:34] <riz|work> BlessJah: doesn't matter which, you could convert the video to lower quality to make smaller
[09:34] <Jordan_U> ... 3074048, then just hit enter to choose the default end sector, then "p" to print the new partition table. After all that no changes will have been made on disk. Pastebin the entire session of fdisk and if it looks good I'll have you write the new partition table to disk with "w".
[09:34] <KM0201> WoundedPhoenix: according to that link, you press F10, and it boots your restore partition.
[09:34] <BlessJah> riz|work: ok, thx
[09:35] <KM0201> WoundedPhoenix: so what... just reboot, and at the bios screen, keep pressing F10
[09:35] <bullgard4> [OO.o 3.2] What does an embedded HSQL database do with the information contained in its file /database/script?
[09:35] <WoundedPhoenix> oh cool
[09:35] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: I made a typo in my instructions. That should be "sudo fdisk -u /dev/sda" not "sudo parted -u /dev/sda".
[09:35] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: HAH! PWNED!
[09:35] <WoundedPhoenix> sorry
[09:35] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: :)
[09:35] <WoundedPhoenix> couldn't resist.
[09:36] <yagoo> bullgard4, runs it?
[09:37] <bullgard4> yagoo: Where do you know from? At what time does it do that?
[09:37] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, "Updated Phoenix 1.49 core code to correct a Windows Vista and Windows 2000 SATA drive slow boot issue." http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/support/jsp/modelContent.jsp?ct=DL&os=&category=&moid=1909190&rpn=PSAFGU&modelFilter=A215-S5808&selCategory=3&selFamily=1073768663#
[09:38] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, there's improvement code for the bios when it comes to the hd performance
[09:40] <oscarr_> Hello. How do I install gcc 4.1 on Natty? apt-get only seems to have 4.4 and 4.5
[09:40] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: you still typing, or did I miss some?
[09:40] <DrManhattan> how can I get vsync in flash videos? I have applied the setting in nvidia-settings, however flash appears to ignore it.
[09:41] <Guest85973> Is there anyone using ipv6?
[09:42] <DrManhattan> I need some help installing the helvetica fonts
[09:42] <DrManhattan> they dont see to show up in my screensavers
[09:42] <yagoo> DrManhattan, look into fc-cache
[09:42] <bullgard4> oscarr_: I would suggest that you use Ubuntu 10.04 for that endeavour.
[09:42] <yagoo> DrManhattan, copy the font to .fonts
[09:42] <alesan_> hi the clock at the top of the bar (I am using the "classic view") is "cut" meaning that I can read 10.4 instead of 10.48; what should I do?
[09:43] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: That's everything (though It had to be split into two comments with '...' since there is a length limit to IRC comments).
[09:43] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: I only got one of them.
[09:43] <WoundedPhoenix> but I think I got the gist
[09:43] <DannyButterman> DrManhattan : sudo fc-cache -fv
[09:44] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: ... 3074048, then just hit enter to choose the default end sector, then "p" to print the new partition table. After all that no changes will have been made on disk. Pastebin the entire session of fdisk and if it looks good I'll have you write the new partition table to disk with "w".
[09:44] <oscarr_> bullgard4: I've spent an entire day configuring my Natty box for this program which seems to need gcc 4.1, and I'd rather not do it all over from scratch.
[09:44] <DrManhattan> yeah it doesn't work, says unable to load font, using fixed
[09:45] <DrManhattan> molecule: unable to load font "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-180-*", using "fixed"
[09:45] <yagoo> !tee
[09:45] <sklorpion> i got question to hddtemp, if i run it in console hddtemp /dev/sdc  it works, but not as a deamon why? when i run deamon nc brings me |/dev/sdc|???|ERR|*|
[09:45]  * yagoo uses "<command> |tee outputtoohere.txt "
[09:46] <bullgard4> oscarr_: Depending on your situation, you may spend even more setup time with using gcc 4.1 on Natty.
[09:46] <yagoo> DrManhattan, it cant find hint information
[09:46] <oscarr_> bullgard4: any particular reason why it's not available on 11.10?
[09:46] <yagoo> DrManhattan, use a compatible font
[09:46] <alesan_> how do I install the REAL acrobat reader?
[09:47] <alesan_> !acrobat
[09:47] <DrManhattan> yagoo, it works just fine in every other distro I've tried
[09:47] <onetwo> alesan_, winetricks
[09:47] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: nah, I've done enough partition work to know it looked fine to write.  I was just worried about losing data from modifying it. But what the hell, I had to take a chance either way, so.
[09:47] <DrManhattan> yagoo, thats also the default font
[09:47] <alesan_> onetwo, ??
[09:47] <yagoo> DrManhattan, maybe
[09:47] <bullgard4> oscarr_: Technical progress in Linux kernel development.
[09:47] <onetwo> alesan, you need wine and winetricks..there you can install the adobe reader
[09:47] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: I would boot into Windows and run chkdsk on sda2 before doing anything else just to be sure.
[09:48] <onetwo> alesan_, if you need just a pdf viewer take an alternative
[09:48] <alesan_> no I need the real acrobat reader
[09:48] <WoundedPhoenix> I don't have a windows install anymore in preparation to install ubuntun, I deleted windows from the live CD, then went to install and ran into all these wonderful problems.
[09:48] <alesan_> I found it is more precise when printing
[09:48] <robin0800> oscarr_, its also in the partner reprositries
[09:48] <onetwo> alesan_, then wine..
[09:48] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, gparted does checkdisk automatically if u resize ntfs/fat32
[09:48] <WoundedPhoenix> I should try to reinstall windows, heh, see if it works now. lol
[09:48] <inso> If anyone has the time, could you have a look at my thread in the ubuntu forums? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1771088
[09:48] <alesan_> why wine what are you talking about
[09:48] <inso> *could anyone
[09:49] <alesan_> there is an acrobat for linux from adobe
[09:49] <alesan_> maybe they even have a 64bit version
[09:49] <alesan_> oh I found itn synaptics nevermind
[09:49] <Juraj> Hello, I would like to install Ubuntu as dual boot on HP notebook (new), but loading is just stuck now, before I reseted unbuntu on partition part of instalation. looked on forum no good advise there for me :(
[09:49] <yagoo> alesan_, so..?
[09:49] <alesan_> yagoo, so why should I use wine?
[09:49] <yagoo> ?
[09:50] <yagoo> alesan_, people drink wine
[09:50] <yagoo> alesan_, what's da matta boy you too young :pp
[09:50] <onetwo> alesan_, oh didnt know there is a linux version
[09:50] <oscarr_> bullgard4: thank you very much for your answer. I'll start all over with 10.04. But I would like to know some more about the reasons behind it. I'm no kernel hacker, but I can read and understand tech documents. Are there any discussions on it?
[09:50] <DrManhattan> so, basically no solution for the fonts issue except "use another font"?
[09:50] <DrManhattan> and no vsync in flash video?
[09:51] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: There only way to really fix an ntfs partition is within Windows, so I'd boot a Windows install CD and use the recovery shell (or whatever it's called) to run chkdsk.
[09:51] <shockrates> hey
[09:51] <DrManhattan> so, basically no solution for the fonts issue except "use another font"?
[09:52] <DrManhattan> and no vsync in flash video?
[09:52] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: this is really annoying.  The gparted that runs in the installer is NOT letting me change the size of the two partitions.
[09:52] <shockrates> can someone upload the last version of kmess at ubuntu? (this one has network connection loss bug)
[09:52] <Juraj> Hello, I would like to install Ubuntu as dual boot on HP notebook (new), but loading is just stuck now, before I reseted unbuntu on partition part of instalation. ( CD was first medium, got USB and same results)
[09:52] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, ..
[09:52] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, yeah
[09:52] <Ubuntu_Beginner> hi all, just started using Ubuntu for the first time for few days. i see the Firefox bundled with 11.04 isn't the latest version, so i go to Firefox site to upgrade to the latest version but not sucess.. it's not like Windows, just download and double click it to install?
[09:52] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: yes?
[09:52] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, i said livecd.
[09:52] <Name141> Is the website down at the moment ?
[09:52] <yagoo> (gparted live cd)
[09:52] <DrManhattan> yeesh, kmess is right. Back to scientific for me. At least it didn't bork my HD this time...
[09:52] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: i cannot make a gparted livecd.
[09:53] <yagoo> well then make one first.
[09:53] <Name141> ubuntu.com that is.
[09:53] <yagoo> I said this more than 4 hours ago
[09:53] <WoundedPhoenix> I have no method to do so.
[09:53] <yagoo> Jordan_U, u obviously don't know much about ntfsresize.
[09:53] <llutz> !manual | Ubuntu_Beginner
[09:53] <WoundedPhoenix> The working method of computing is currently an Ubuntu livecd.
[09:53] <yagoo> ntfsresize is 100% stable in linux.
[09:53] <KM0201> WoundedPhoenix: can the machine boot USB?
[09:53] <onetwo> gparted live cd is available
[09:54] <Ubuntu_Beginner> THANKS
[09:54] <KM0201> WoundedPhoenix: also, if you have an ubuntu live cd, it has Gparted on it... so there's no reason to create a "Gparted" live cd..
[09:54] <WoundedPhoenix> KM0201: hmm, I think so.
[09:54] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: Boot the Windows install CD, run chkdsk, boot back into the Ubuntu installer, and I think you should be able to resize / install normally.
[09:54] <Name141> ok thanks for checking
[09:54] <WoundedPhoenix> okay. ill try another 12 hours of running chkdsk.
[09:54] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, you're just wasting a 5th hour here dude.
[09:54] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, I've been doing this for years.
[09:55] <ndam05> tai
[09:55] <KM0201> yagoo: i've not really followed along, but 5hrs?   i'd ahve done nuked that drive and reinstalled.
[09:55] <Jordan_U> yagoo: I never said it wasn't. I suspect there may have been minor filesystem damage from the start due to the invalid partition table. There probably isn't, but it's better safe than sorry.
[09:55] <KM0201> i lose interest after 30min
[09:55]  * WoundedPhoenix sighs and gives up
[09:55] <yagoo> Jordan_U, nope.
[09:55] <WoundedPhoenix> I'm taking four xanax, drinking what's left in my bottle of meade, and going to bed.
[09:56] <WoundedPhoenix> I quit.
[09:56] <yagoo> Jordan_U, seeing those misalignments are benign..
[09:56] <yagoo> very common..
[09:56] <[manas]> can someone help me, when im trying to connect my ipod im getting this error Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2,
[09:56] <yagoo> they always appear when installing any m$ on its own partitioning terms.. then seeing the list partitions under linux tools
[09:56] <Dr_Willis|2> [manas]:  check your mount options/command line. thats the generic 'you did somthing wrong' error message
[09:56] <WoundedPhoenix> I'm sending $20 to Toshiba for another Vista disk, and let THEM sort it all out. fuck the data on the drive, pardon my french.   Just use the gparted live cd.. and i'm sure it'll do
[09:57] <Dr_Willis|2> [manas]:  what command are you usin g exactly?
[09:57] <yagoo> just make the cd.. and come back on here tomorrow.. we'll help u some more
[09:57] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: This is my seventh day, with around four to five hours a day. so stick a sock in it.
[09:58] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, ?
[09:58] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, yah but I've been doing this for years.
[09:58] <yagoo> :p
[09:58] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: what part of "I can not create a live cd of gparted because I am already using a livecd to run this computing environment" does not make sense?
[09:58] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, u can also make a usbboot of gparted..
[09:58] <[manas]> Dr_Willis|2, i was trying to delete some music from it with banshee i forgot umnte it and im getting this error now
[09:59]  * YankDownUnder ponders making sense out of that
[09:59] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, why not fixboot the windows and burn the iso from there?
[09:59] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: I understand your frustration but that does not make it OK to swear, or talk to anyone like that, in this channel. Be sure it doesn't happen again.
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> [manas]:  if you frogot to Unmount it befor removeing it. You may need to fsck the filesystem (check the filesystem) to verify its not currupted
[09:59] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: I'm 33 years old, and have been working with and programming computers since age 5.  Just because I've run into one issue that's whipping my *ahem* backside dosn't mean ... nevermind. I'm overstressed, etc.
[09:59] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: yes sahib *bow*
[09:59] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, so?
[09:59] <Hyperbyte> How can I force a umask for all users (including Gnome logins), without changing anything in their /home/ directory?
[10:00] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: deleted the windows already. heh.
[10:00] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, that doesn't mean you know what you're doing..
[10:00] <YankDownUnder> WoundedPhoenix, Mate - s'all good...take a breath...we're all cool...
[10:00] <naxa> hi! is there a software tool what can detect if my mobo supports high-density DDR pc3200 ram? i have aopen i865gm-i with chipset 82865G/PE/P. i downloaded the user manual pdf but it didn't said a thing about this.
[10:00] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, i hold linux certs..
[10:00] <WoundedPhoenix> YankDownUnder: yeah I know. it's just at this point I feel like pulling out all the hair on my head (beard included), and all the "little and curlies"
[10:00] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, so i know what i'm saying.. i cant speak for others.
[10:01] <YankDownUnder> naxa, Instead of the "User Manual" what about getting the tech specs on the board?
[10:01] <Jordan_U> yagoo: I don't think that this discussion is going anywhere productive. Can we please move on?
[10:01] <sklorpion> naxa: you dont have any data in specyfication?
[10:01] <YankDownUnder> WoundedPhoenix, I've done that - it's not pretty - and it's fairly painful... ;) "Arguing online is like winning the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded" ;)
[10:01] <naxa> YankDownUnder, i couldn't find it on the homepage
[10:01] <naxa> sklorpion, well no... i did lshw but i missed if there was relevant info
[10:02] <YankDownUnder> naxa, Heaps of times it's in the depths of the product support pages...I'd honestly try looking there mate.
[10:02] <[manas]> Dr_Willis, it seems ok there
[10:02] <WoundedPhoenix> yagoo: as do I, likely vastly different from the ones you hold, as I specialized in things like web hosting, the Internet, servers, etc... rather than desktop issues. gah, it's not a measuring contest... inches is inches.
[10:02] <WoundedPhoenix> YankDownUnder: unless someone brings up the nazi's... then they're special, AND the loser. ;)
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> [manas]:  after fscking the file system, try mounting it again. tell us the exact command you are using to try to mount it.
[10:02]  * YankDownUnder thinks centimetres are centimetres
[10:02] <naxa> YankDownUnder, well i only found this: http://global.aopen.com/products_detail.aspx?auno=942  and maybe i just miss it but it didn't contain the word "density" :(
[10:02] <yagoo> WoundedPhoenix, you obviously could of fixed this 5 hours ago. :p.. move on.
[10:03] <WoundedPhoenix> Jordan_U: My apologies to you for the bow and scrape comment earlier.
[10:03] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix: np :)
[10:03] <WoundedPhoenix> Okay I'm out for the night.  goodnight.
[10:03] <yagoo> gnite... comeback tmorrow if u need more help
[10:04] <[manas]> Dr_Willis, sorry mate it doesnt show in fsck that is mounted
[10:04] <YankDownUnder> naxa, Well, just in looking at this (I've got a similar board), you're going to have two 1gb chips, and that's all she wrote.
[10:05] <naxa> YankDownUnder, yes but is it ok to have 2 pieces of 1gb _high-density_ ram?
[10:05] <naxa> :(
[10:05] <naxa> even the intel site didn't say anything about density...
[10:05] <YankDownUnder> naxa, On mine - which is very very similar, max is two x 1gb - and they have to be the same.
[10:06] <naxa> YankDownUnder, yes. but are they high-density? or low-density? (e.g. 64*8bit (low) or 128*4bit (high) modules?)
[10:07] <YankDownUnder> naxa, Mine are 128's
[10:08] <naxa> YankDownUnder, hey that sounds promising!
[10:08] <naxa> YankDownUnder, thanks for the effort! :)
[10:08] <YankDownUnder> naxa, S'all good mate....s'all good
[10:08] <[manas]> Dr_Willis, im lost dont know what to do
[10:08] <YankDownUnder> We're all lost.
[10:09] <shockrates> hey i get this error
[10:09] <shockrates> sudo apt-get update
[10:09] <shockrates> E: Type 'src' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kmess-packages-kmess-stable-natty.list
[10:09] <shockrates> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:09] <DrManhattan> naxa - you can probably use decent cheap memory in that
[10:09] <shockrates> what to do?
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> [manas]:   you dont fsck a mounted filesystem.   sudo fsck /dev/sdXX    with it UNmounted
[10:10] <DrManhattan> I checked out the manual too, says nothing about high or low density ram :(
[10:10] <YankDownUnder> DrManhattan, It's an older board, yeah, cheap is good.
[10:10] <llutz> shockrates: check that line, it should start with "deb-src"
[10:11] <[manas]> Dr_Willis, fdisk /dev/sdb2
[10:11] <[manas]> Unable to open /dev/sdb2
[10:11] <[manas]>  not mounted
[10:11] <naxa> DrManhattan, may i ask what do you mean by cheap memory? i live in hungary, ddr prices are very high, so if i order from ebay, everything is cheap for me in terms of ddr...
[10:11] <shockrates> llutz: the file contains those 2 lines
[10:11] <shockrates> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kmess-packages/kmess-stable/ubuntu natty main
[10:11] <shockrates> src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kmess-packages/kmess-stable/ubuntu natty main
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> [manas]:   what are youy trying to do.. to file system CHECK  -- its 'fsck' not fdisk
[10:11] <shockrates> llutz: should i remove the second line?
[10:11] <llutz> shockrates: the 2nd line is wrong
[10:11] <DrManhattan> naxa, sadly ddr1 is going to be expensive now - I sold 2g of ddr1 for MORE than what I bought it for a couple of months ago
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> [manas]:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb    would show what FS's are on the device
[10:11] <llutz> shockrates: yes
[10:11] <Guest74353> naxa: he probably refers to low-cost RAM compared to the higher priced premium RAM that's mostly used for overclocking purposes
[10:12] <YankDownUnder> naxa, Don't bother ordering online - find a computer store that sells used stuff - find a few DDR400's that are used.
[10:12] <DrManhattan> Guest74353, naxa , that is correct sir
[10:12] <shockrates> k ty llutz
[10:12] <naxa> YankDownUnder, the point is ordering from ebay is cheaper in my country than if i buy in the shop...
[10:12] <naxa> YankDownUnder, about 50% cheaper
[10:12] <YankDownUnder> naxa, Hmmm....what about just stealing it? ;) => (joking)
[10:13] <naxa> DrManhattan, Guest74353 thank you!
[10:13] <naxa> YankDownUnder, ;)
[10:13] <naxa> YankDownUnder, I don't think anyone would miss it actually ;)
[10:13] <Juraj> hey, anyone have little time for me ?
[10:13] <[manas]> Dr_Willis, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[10:13] <[manas]> Note: sector size is 4096 (not 512)
[10:13] <[manas]> Disk /dev/sdb: 119.8 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>36 bytes
[10:13] <[manas]> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1821 cylinders
[10:13] <[manas]> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 4096 = 65802240 bytes
[10:13] <[manas]> Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
[10:13] <[manas]> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
[10:13] <[manas]> Disk identifier: 0x00000000
[10:13] <Guest74353> naxa, tough luck; I recently gave away 2 gigs of old DDR-RAM... could have gifted it to you :P Is it DDR1 you need, definately not DDR2 ?
[10:13] <[manas]> Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[10:13] <YankDownUnder> naxa, Hehehehehehe....yer right matey...
[10:14] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | [manas]
[10:14] <naxa> Guest74353, i'm sure it's DDR1 (one). the original... :P
[10:14] <Guest74353> damn
[10:14] <Guest74353> still got something like 6 gigs of DDR2 strolling around here
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> [manas]:  you sure the disk is sdb? sounds like that one. is very messed up if its not showing any partition tables.
[10:15] <naxa> Guest74353, on the other hand if you absolutely need to get rid of some ddr2s, i think i could use them someday :)
[10:16] <KM0201> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTUwMg
[10:16] <Somedude7> Hi, I have Ubuntu Desktop. I'm trying to do something with screen + cronjobs, can anyone help?
[10:18] <lolmatic> hi guys. did i alraedy mention that libreoffice sucks? it crashed 2 times while having only one spreadsheet open which had 2 simple formulas in it and only 100 cells used!
[10:18] <[manas]> Dr_Willis, so what should i do???
[10:18] <yagoo> naxa, if u gonna get ur ram on ebay.. only go for the good brand names.. like kingston, guarantees compatibility
[10:18] <lolmatic> what is the difference between libreoffice and ooo anyways?
[10:19] <naxa> yagoo, thanks!
[10:19] <Cr4z33> Hello everybody
[10:19] <sklorpion> question - if i have system on /dev/sdc5 and i want to rebuild system to have only one new disk so it will be /dev/sdaX can i change this /dev/sdc5 to whatever i want?
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> [manas]:  is that the right hard drive a 120gb hd?
[10:19] <yagoo> naxa, ddr1 << i dont think there's a last manufacturer alive still making them.. and your ebay vendor would not be happy if u try to return ur incompatible brand back to him
[10:19] <KM0201> lolcat: i've had zero problems out of Libre... it actually seems faster than OO.org to me..
[10:19] <naxa> yagoo, sure
[10:20] <Guest74353> oh, btw - anyone know why my recently bought Western Digital Elements External HDD is impossible to mount on Ubuntu 10.04
[10:20] <yagoo> naxa, if its new out of the box then of course it's easier to say its incompatible yada yada
[10:20] <Cr4z33> Can someone please tell why it is so hard to install Ubuntu (whatever version) into a RAID0 system? I can't get it working...
[10:20] <yagoo> (like ddr3)
[10:20] <yagoo> obviously..
[10:20] <yagoo> !raid
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> sklorpion:  sdx5 would be the frst logical partition in the extended partition on the hard drive.. Primaries are 1-4, logicals are 5+
[10:20] <[manas]> Dr_Willis, yes it is
[10:20] <Jordan_U> sklorpion: I don't understand the question. What are you acctually trying to accomplish?
[10:20] <aborady> how to restore nautilus as the default file manager
[10:20] <Cr4z33> Anybody?
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> [manas]:  its possible its failed.. or you totally messed it up if you unplugged it while mounting. You may want to try some of the recovery tools if theres a lot of imporntant data on it.
[10:21] <naxa> yagoo, yes. however the shipping would still be a problem i think
[10:21] <DrManhattan> naxa, im pretty sure you can use low or high density ram in that
[10:21] <Guest74353> naxa, yagoo is right - before buying some sticks, try looking for the compatibility list of the motherboard manufacturer online.
[10:21] <DrManhattan> in fact im sure of it
[10:21] <Somedude7> Is there an easy way to run a .jar file in a screen on a desktop version of ubuntu?
[10:21] <DrManhattan> ftp://ftp.aopen.com/pub/manual/mb/i865gvmi/i865gvmi-ol-e.pdf
[10:21] <aborady> how to restore nautilus as the default file manager
[10:21] <naxa> DrManhattan, you think so?
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> [manas]:  never never seen a fulesystem get so currupted it dosent show partition tables on the disk.
[10:21] <DrManhattan> naxa, yeah
[10:21] <[manas]> Dr_Willis, its an ipod maybe thats why it doesnt show partition, no its no important data on it
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  clarify 'in a screen'
[10:22] <DrManhattan> you just have to make sure to use the same density chips
[10:22] <yagoo> naxa, corsair is another good brand
[10:22] <Somedude7> a Screen, like you would on a ubuntu server; and you can name it
[10:22] <Cr4z33> Guys can you please answer me? :P
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> [manas]:  no idea on ipods..  you may want to check the forums and askubuntu.com site.
[10:22] <shashwatpns> whenever i try install something i get an error always - http://paste.ubuntu.com/614858/. I dont even have software sources in my menu. 11.04. Help please
[10:22] <sklorpion> Jordan_U: i want to copy my system to new disk. now i have 3 different disks and few partition on them, my ubuntu is on /dev/sdc5. I want to have only 1 disk and i gues it will be /dev/sda so system will not work properly after copying all files?!
[10:22] <[manas]> Dr_Willis, and its shows fine when i connect it to mac
[10:22] <aborady> how to restore nautilus as the default file manager
[10:22] <nigel34> hello guys, sometimes when i log on to ubuntu, ther is a black bar across the screen,like  a glitch or something,what is it and how can it be fixed?
[10:22] <yagoo> sklorpion, maybe clonezilla does this
[10:23] <Somedude7> usually on a server you use "screen -S NAME"
[10:23] <Cr4z33> Hello???
[10:23] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: It may be using Apple Partition Map, which fdisk does not understand.
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> [manas]:  i would have the mac scan/verify the filesystem.
[10:23] <sklorpion> yagoo: thx for tip
[10:23] <DrManhattan> naxa, hell, in the install picture they're putting in a stick of Kingston HYperX ddr 3500
[10:23] <LordTrev> nigel34: your boot screen will eventually die in my experience.
[10:23] <naxa> DrManhattan, haha i missed that
[10:24] <DrManhattan> naxa, yeah thats pretty intense ram, from back in the day
[10:24] <[manas]> Dr_Willis, i done ipod restore on it its works fine just when im connecting it to ubuntu its give me error
[10:24] <nigel34> lordrev:it boots perfectly, but its on the desktop background thats the problem
[10:24] <naxa> DrManhattan, oh by the way i think that install picture is some generic image. i have only two slots! the actual image is on the top opage
[10:24] <yagoo> [manas], i believe ipods may use hfs+
[10:24] <nigel34> lordrev:i mean everything works well, but its just a black bar or band down the screen
[10:25] <aborady> how to restore nautilus as the default file manager ??????
[10:25] <yagoo> [manas], u reminded me about my new ipod touch.. i never bothered mounting in linux :p
[10:25] <yagoo> lol
[10:25] <DrManhattan> naxa, aha! well I guess you take your chances, but my bet is that motherboard will handle it just fine
[10:25] <alexey> Hi all! I have problem with Serios Sam First Enc (linux game edition). So it is very fast. I think that is and SDL timer bug/problem. Any know how fix it? Ubuntu 10.04 LTS?
[10:25] <Cr4z33> Guys tell me at least yes or no. Is there a 100% working method to install Ubuntu SUCCESFULLY on a RAID0 system with already 2 NTFS partitions in it?
[10:25] <yagoo> [manas], i dont know anything if its possible to mount ipods in linux.. so i'd be clueless about this
[10:25] <[manas]> yagoo, its an ipod clasic
[10:25] <DrManhattan> Cr4z33, I did that in ubuntu 10.10 and it worked fine, even resized my ntfs partition on the raid0 device
[10:26] <DrManhattan> I cannot vouch for it in 11.04
[10:26] <Cr4z33> DrManhattan, and were you able to see RAID0 partitions during Ubuntu setup? I didn't
[10:26] <nigel34> could it be  a graphics problem, or just  a bug?
[10:26] <[manas]> yagoo, i mounted it after try to delete some music forgot to umnout it and swich off my pc, done restore on mac now im getting this error
[10:26] <DrManhattan> Cr4z33, that is correct sir - what raid controller are you using?
[10:27] <Cr4z33> DrManhattan, ICH Intel stuff. I have an Asus RAmpage III
[10:27] <Cr4z33> ICH 10
[10:27] <DrManhattan> Cr4z33, I have an asus p5qse/r and it worked great for me
[10:27] <yagoo> Cr4z33, well u do dedicate the RAID0 system to one OS to be safe.. I don't know much about advanced RAID setups.. but i don't believe RAID was meant for multi-Oses bootups.. (however u can use Vmware/virtualbox in case u really don't have further time)
[10:27] <DrManhattan> ich10r here
[10:28] <DrManhattan> Cr4z33, do you have ich10 or ich10r
[10:28] <[manas]> yagoo maybe its somethere blovk log or how it called
[10:28] <Cr4z33> DrManhattan, let me check. brb :P
[10:28] <onaip> Hello people...  I've intalled Ubuntu 11.04 but cannot get Bluetooth to work..  .
[10:28] <Guest74353> Rampage III should be ICH10
[10:28] <onaip> can anyone help ? ?
[10:28] <DrManhattan> how is he pulling off raid0 with ich10?
[10:29] <DrManhattan> software raid?
[10:29] <Guest74353> err, ICH10R i meant
[10:29] <aborady> how to restore nautilus as the default file manager ??????
[10:29] <aborady> ??/
[10:29] <aborady> ?
[10:29]  * DrManhattan passes some coffee to Guest74353
[10:29] <Cr4z33> DrManhattan, it's an ICH10
[10:30] <yagoo> aborady, for what.. gnome?
[10:30] <Cr4z33> DrManhattan, it's an ICH10R sorry!
[10:30] <aborady> unity
[10:30] <DrManhattan> aha
[10:30] <aborady> yes
[10:30] <Guest74353> DrManhattan thanks #sip
[10:30] <aborady> i installed Nautilus-Elementary with some stupid way
[10:30] <DrManhattan> Cr4z33, it SHOULD pick it up - maybe you need to put in dodmraid at the command line?
[10:30] <aborady> i cant restore nautilus as default
[10:30] <naxa> I've gotta go. thank you everyone for helping!
[10:30] <onaip> Could anyone help me how I can install bluetooth driver in my Ubuntu 11.04
[10:30] <onaip> ? ?
[10:31] <Cr4z33> DrManhattan, I am a Linux newbie. However I tried both normal and alternate setups of 10.10 too
[10:31] <yagoo> aborady, probaby there's a better site-> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=902795  (u may need to use gconf edit tool if can't change it system/preferences)
[10:31] <yagoo> naxa, good luck
[10:31] <DrManhattan> Cr4z33, have you tried putting in dodmraid when you install? I think its in the f6 options but I could be wrong - please give it a shot?
[10:32] <onaip> I'm new to Linux or Ubuntu
[10:32] <Cr4z33> DrManhattan, sorry what's that? you mean loading RAID drivers disk?
[10:33] <yagoo> aborady, unity.. not sure
[10:33] <DrManhattan> Cr4z33, no I mean when you go to install ubuntu
[10:33] <aborady> i dont have system / prefrences in unity
[10:33] <aborady> no way to edit gconf to restore nautilus ?
[10:33] <yagoo> aborady, if u cant find something for it graphically.. maybe launching gconf editor manually from somewhere may fix things
[10:33] <Cr4z33> DrManhattan, no I didn't try it. What is it?
[10:34] <aborady> ok i opened gconf-editor
[10:34] <DrManhattan> Hmm - can anyone a little more familiar with the ubuntu 11.04 boot process please tell Cr4z33 when/how to punch boot options in? He needs better support for dmraid
[10:34] <yagoo> aborady, a simple easiest way is to make another account, log in to it and compare the gconf values
[10:34] <Guest74353> is there a substitute for MS-Silverlight on Ubuntu? I'm fond of watching streams of sporting events that rarely get broadcasted around here, but most of those streams use Silverlight :-/
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> aborady:  the webupd8 blog site has dome commands mentioned in a posting about 3 weeks ago on resetting unity, gnome, and compiz back to defaults
[10:35] <DrManhattan> Come on guys - pretty simple stuff here - where does one put in options for boot on the ubuntu livecd?
[10:35] <Cr4z33> DrManhattan, I actually want to install v10.4 but I think it's same thing right? :P
[10:35] <yagoo> Guest11276, silverlight is avail to linux.. m$ fears linux enough to make a plugin
[10:35] <Somedude7> Can anyone help me get this BASH code running on my Ubuntu Desktop? http://pastebin.com/J7SSDbDA
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> DrManhattan:  hit space when you see the man/logo and then theres some F keys on the next screen
[10:35] <DrManhattan> Cr4z33, in 10.4 you have a screen at the beginning, I believe
[10:35] <Guest74353> oh really? Great news. Never actually tried installing it, I figured it would not work regardless
[10:36] <DrManhattan> Dr_Willis, thank you
[10:36] <Cr4z33> Dr_Willis thanks
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Guest11276:  if they yse the DRM feature of silverlight. then the Linux alternative wont work.
[10:36] <Cr4z33> DrManhattan, and should I try the normal or alternate setup?
[10:36] <yagoo> Some_Person, that's not strictly true..
[10:36] <yagoo> Some_Person, you may need to use a classpath variable
[10:37] <jiohdi> firefox used to have a silverlight sort of linux sub which stopped working in firefox 4
[10:37] <DrManhattan> Cr4z33, I'd use the normal but I'd stick dodmraid in as a boot option if I wanted to go side by side with windows on a raid0 device
[10:37] <Guest74353> still traditional 3.something here. No FF4
[10:37] <DrManhattan> Cr4z33, Ubuntu 10.10 will do it, I can verify that personally - I don't know about 10.4 though
[10:38] <Cr4z33> DrManhattan, OK so normal setup then SPACE at logo loading to get dodmraid right?
[10:39] <DrManhattan> Cr4z33, <Dr_Willis> DrManhattan:  hit space when you see the man/logo and then theres some F keys on the next screen
[10:39] <nnubuntu> i cant install Ubuntu on Compaq SG314512 if UBUNTU  installed its hang forever
[10:39] <yagoo> Somedude7, you may need to use a classpath variable
[10:40] <DrManhattan> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082
[10:40] <DrManhattan> im buying that in a couple of days
[10:40] <yagoo> Somedude7, (and know if u should be using sunjava or to avoid gcj-java)
[10:40] <Cr4z33> DrManhattan, OK thanks.
[10:41] <DrManhattan> Cr4z33, let me know how it goes
[10:41] <Somedude7> yagoo, I don't know what a classpath variable is.
[10:41] <nnubuntu> hi all help
[10:42] <yagoo> nnubuntu, can u rephrase ur question?
[10:42] <yagoo> nnubuntu, u installed ubuntu, yes or no?
[10:42] <crystalblue666> www.xxxlivecam.info
[10:42] <nnubuntu> i cant install Ubuntu on Compaq SG314512
[10:42] <Somedude7> yagoo, the java is for a minecraft server. I need to run a .jar. Sunjava JRE is what runs it
[10:43] <nnubuntu> ya installed but its hang for long time
[10:44] <akshatj> I am running 11.04 on an ec2 t1.micro instance and SSH hangs when it sends too much text.
[10:44] <Juraj> Hello, I would like to install Ubuntu as dual boot on HP notebook (new), but loading is just stuck now, before I reseted unbuntu on partition part of instalation.
[10:45] <yagoo> Somedude7, be sure its the java (maybe the latest?) -- whatever java ver requirement
[10:45] <yagoo> Somedude7, often a CLASSPATH would be used
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> Juraj:  you did make a dvd/backup recovery dvd set for your new laptop first?
[10:45] <xbmcuser> I am mapping a remote. "showkey -k" gives me info for EVERY keypress, but "showkey -s" only gives info for certain keys. Can I somehow map the unknown scancodes to custom ones?
[10:46] <Cr4z33> DrManhattan, sorry for late reply. I am downloading v10.10 and preparing partitions. Will come back later and let you know :P
[10:46] <Juraj> Dr_Willis of windows yes
[10:46] <DrManhattan> Cr4z33, right on
[10:46] <Guest75946> ubuntu wont boot for me. im stuck at a prompt saying (initramfs) i guess its busybox shell or something. help me please im online from my phone :(
[10:46] <yagoo> Juraj, u resetted ur machine while the partitions we're being changed with the ubuntu installer?
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> Juraj:  check your disk partition layout. I have seen new windows machines that come with 4 primary partitions. this makes it much harder to get linux installed.
[10:47] <Juraj> Yagoo: yes
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> Juraj:  from the ubuntu live cd, check 'sudo fdisk -l' output for the hard drive.
[10:47] <Somedude7> yagoo, I can run the server fine already. The script i linked is supposed to be used to make it so the server restarts at different times. from what I can tell, I just need to have the server started in a screen.. I'm wondering if there's an easy way to do that on ubuntu desktop
[10:47] <yagoo> Juraj, it may have just been doing checkdisk at the start.
[10:47] <Juraj> Dr_Willis yes it has 4 but it won even start
[10:47] <yagoo> Juraj, run a checkdisk against the ntfs...
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> resetted = rebooted - :)  if it has 4 primary then you must do some deletion to make one an extended
[10:48] <yagoo> Juraj, nways.. i can't say more than that.. u pretty much um.. should of let it finished.
[10:48] <Guest75946> anyone? :(
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> Ive found that windows can resize ntfs MUCH faster then the Ubuntu installer does also.  IF you dont have 4 primary, you could  resize one of the logicals from within windows and save some time when you install ubuntu.
[10:49] <Juraj> okey, thanks very much
[10:49] <yagoo> Somedude7, look into crontab stuff
[10:49] <Guest75946> ubuntu wont boot for me. im stuck at a prompt saying (initramfs) i guess its busybox shell or something. help me please im online from my phone :(
[10:50] <yagoo> Guest11276, yah.. thats grub
[10:51] <yagoo> Guest11276, use initrd with grub setting... maybe a symlink got missing or something
[10:51] <Guest75946> yagoo, how do i fix this? when i type exit it says cant find etc/root/console or something and wont go furter
[10:51] <yagoo> Guest11276, u can post ur grub.cfg if its grub2
[10:51] <Guest75946> yagoo, im a noob. no idea about any of that stuff. sorry :(
[10:51] <yagoo> (pastebin)
[10:51] <yagoo> Guest11276, u installing more than 1 linux?
[10:52] <Guest75946> im online from my phone because ubuntu is the only os ive got
[10:52] <yagoo> ?
[10:52] <nnubuntu> yagoo :- i have 20 Wipro PC but the problem on Compaq PC its  freezes after login
[10:52] <Guest75946> the windows install is corrupt
[10:52] <raju> every time while i am login to ubuntu , i am getting a message that " cannot find /tmp , press F to fix or I ignore blah blah blha...." how can i solve this problem
[10:52] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: you're trying to boot windows or ubuntu?
[10:52] <yagoo> Guest11276, can fix that ..
[10:53] <yagoo> Guest11276, hmm
[10:53] <r0fs3ck5> Guest75946: you're trying to boot windows or ubuntu?
[10:53] <yagoo> Guest11276, tell ur friedn to do irc.. it'll be much easier..
[10:53] <Guest75946> ubuntu
[10:53] <MattMurray> im in ubuntu right now, but i need help with my wireless
[10:53] <Guest75946> it says No init found
[10:54] <nnubuntu> yagoo.......you have a time for my problem
[10:54] <MattMurray> ubuntu sees my network, but does not connect, how do i fix this please?
[10:54] <MattMurray> (wireless)
[10:54] <pvh_sa> hey there i'm trying to add an identi.ca account to gwibber... i click authorise, add the details, it says 'authorised', but nothing shows up in my accounts pane - any clues??
[10:55] <pvh_sa> this is on ubuntu 11.04 with gwibber 3.0.0
[10:55] <MattMurray> anyone help?
[10:55] <yagoo> nnubuntu, u logging into Compaq how?
[10:55] <kapu> if suddenly all my terminals seem to ignore my Xdefaults settings, what are some possible reasons?
[10:55] <raju> pvh_sa:  then click at add shown at the bottom of that window
[10:55] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: sudo service networking restart
[10:55] <r0fs3ck5> r0fs3ck5: tell us the output
[10:56] <yagoo> kapu, maybe it's .xsessions.. check on ubuntu wiki
[10:56] <r0fs3ck5> wtf
[10:56] <kapu> yagoo: thanks
[10:56] <Name141> How could I setup samba to password protect a folder so I can use it as a private backup instead of open to all the network such as that of music, etc?
[10:56] <fabio> hI
[10:56] <MattMurray> rofs3ck5, im a total noob, what does that mean please?
[10:56] <nnubuntu> yago :- i have 7 Compaq PC same model and every PC having same problem ..
[10:56] <kapu> seems to have happened after installing xxxterm
[10:56] <Guest75946> yagoo, any idea what i could do? im stuck :(
[10:57] <fabio> HOW Install Urban TError On LInux?
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> !info xxxterm
[10:57] <fabio> HOW Install Urban TError On LInux?
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> !ut
[10:57] <yagoo> kapu, i saw this.. but it may be outdated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[10:57] <r0fs3ck5> Name141: create a new user and share it to that user only
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> heh wrong factoid.
[10:57] <fabio> @
[10:57] <kapu> yagoo: ty
[10:57] <fabio> @kapu
[10:57] <raju> pvh_sa:  do u
[10:57] <Name141> r0fs3ck5: I meant for windows -> ubuntu server , then later ubuntuserver -> backtowindows
[10:58] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: open a terminal, type "sudo service networking restart"
[10:58] <MattMurray> in terminal it comes up with restart: unknown instance
[10:58] <MattMurray> ^
[10:58] <Name141> but not allow people to access it besides me on my windows machine
[10:58] <yagoo> fabio, i believe it can be just extracted and run
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> MattMurray:  try tab completion on the 'net<tab>' part - it may be network, not networking
[10:58] <yagoo> fabio, i play it but on another platform
[10:58]  * yagoo has a r.a.t7 cyborg
[10:58] <nnubuntu> yagoo :- UBUNTU 10.10 installed but  after login UBUNTU freezes ?
[10:58] <pvh_sa> raju, ok, then it goes back to the 'add account' pane
[10:58] <MattMurray> Dr_Willis, ow do i do that?
[10:59] <yagoo> nnubuntu, doess the login manager display show up?
[10:59] <r0fs3ck5> Name141: when you browse to that folder from windows, it will request a user name and password. Enter the details for the ubuntu user account you created
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> MattMurray:  hit the tab key as you enter the command. make it auto-comnplete the name...
[10:59] <nnubuntu> how
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> sudo service net<TAB>
[10:59] <akshatj> anyone here used 11.04 on an EC2 t1.micro instance? Please help
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> !tab
[10:59] <Name141> r0fs3ck5: ok, and I"m assuming all I need to do is not allow guest access ?
[10:59] <MattMurray> what command?
[10:59] <pvh_sa> raju, oh now it works, thanks
[11:00] <raju> pvh_sa:  so , it will adds u r account to that panel. i mean if your account exist then u r done
[11:00] <xbmcuser> I have a remote which gives keycodes using showkey -k, but no scancodes. Isn't this supposed to work the otherway round, and is it possible to map keycodes which don't have a scancode?
[11:00] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: try this then: 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> Tab completion in Ubuntu  - is very very wel done. works in all sorts of places.
[11:00] <raju> pvh_sa:  you are welcome
[11:00] <Guest75946> r0fs3ck5, how do i get in? :(
[11:00] <kapu> yagoo: noteworthy is that I no longer have vimkeys either. .profile is ignored as well
[11:01] <raju> every time while i am login to ubuntu , i am getting a message that " cannot find /tmp , press F to fix or I ignore blah blah blha...." how can i solve this problem
[11:01] <yagoo> Guest11276, u can attach usb drives, use a livecd linux and backup ur stuff..
[11:01] <MattMurray> matt@Matts-PC:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:01] <MattMurray> [sudo] password for matt:
[11:01] <MattMurray>  * Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces
[11:01] <MattMurray>  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                          Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[11:01] <FloodBot1> MattMurray: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:01] <yagoo> kapu, vimkeys .. like u mean bash preference?
[11:01] <Guest75946> im starting to hate ubuntu. whyd this hhappen in the first place?
[11:01] <Guest75946> it was a fresh install
[11:02] <yagoo> kapu, somewhere in shopt command (bash builtin) there's a pref for vim/emacs i believe
[11:02] <kapu> yagoo in .profile 'vim -o'
[11:02] <MattMurray> nothing happened
[11:02] <MattMurray> ^ came up
[11:02] <kapu> i mean vi -o
[11:02] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: now type 'ifconfig wlan0'
[11:02] <MattMurray> ok
[11:02] <yagoo> kapu, if u use console then this isn't ubuntu related
[11:03] <nnubuntu> yagoo :- UBUNTU 10.10 not freezes on login ...its freezes after login ....UBUNTU gives me time for play but after 3 or 4 minutes its freezes
[11:03] <yagoo> kapu, you should know how to fix this..
[11:03] <YankDownUnder> Dr_Willis, Something to think about: http://www.fukung.net/v/31579/343c368fdd587e0a3ab96c0362dade02.png
[11:03] <kapu> yagoo: fair enough
[11:03] <kapu> i'm on openbsd yikes
[11:03] <yagoo> oh
[11:03] <kapu> but all very posix no?
[11:03] <Fragy> Hi. After a fresh install of ubuntu 11.04 I get error: out of disk message. After pressing Enter, it boots up fine. Does this have to do with the fact that I have that WD green that should have 4k sectors?
[11:04] <MattMurray> should i write what came up?
[11:04] <yagoo> they implement startx differently.
[11:04] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: did it have an IP address?
[11:04] <yagoo> so better to ask #*bsd/related
[11:04] <MattMurray> no
[11:04] <kapu> yagoo: yeah my bad
[11:05] <MattMurray> lots' of things, but i can't see an ip
[11:05] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: you need to access your nmapplet, which is the little network icon near the clock.
[11:05] <yagoo> u can dteremine if u use .Xsessions/.xsessions/.xinitrc/etc/etc by studying the startx script and /etc/X11 stuff
[11:05] <YankDownUnder> Fragy, I've had issues with the WD green drives - my resolution for ALL of them is now to stick them in an external drive housing, partition them THERE, then use them in the system I'm setting up. Sounds like a kludge, but it works - at least here for me and my clients. I try to steer clear of the WD green drives...
[11:05] <MattMurray> i have got access to tat
[11:05] <MattMurray> *that
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> I have not heard anything good about the WD green drives either. I advise my friends to avoid them also.
[11:06] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: tell me if you see a wlan there
[11:06] <yagoo> Dr_Willis, they don't run as fast..
[11:06] <MattMurray> whats a wlan
[11:06] <yagoo> MattMurray, wlan0 is the first wifi device
[11:06] <amin`> i try to create a bootable cd with BOIS file to update my BOIS but the iage of dos bootable and the bois update program which I downloaded from the company site is in exe and it hould be open by archive manager but it does not how could i open them?
[11:07] <raju> MattMurray:  wireless lan
[11:07] <amin`> iage ****image
[11:07] <MattMurray> yes, it sows 5 wifi netowrks
[11:07] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: you need to enable the wlan0
[11:07] <MattMurray> how do i do that please
[11:07] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: you simply click on it.
[11:08] <MattMurray> enable wireless, and enable networking are both ticked
[11:08] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: youi need to *left* click on the nmapplet
[11:08] <sklorpion> if i do "sleep 20 && conkey "  <- is it 20 sec or min? or what?
[11:08] <MattMurray> i did, then should i click on my network yh?
[11:09] <yagoo> amin`, mount a fat16 bootdisk image.. copy the program and bios firmware to mountpoint.  (u can extract floppies from .exe from bootdisk.com -- use msdos622)-- Burn this specially->> use disk-emulation burn option, to burn this floppy image to cd.. then boot with cd
[11:09] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: then *left* click on wlan0
[11:09] <iceroot> sklorpion: man sleep (its seconds)
[11:09] <sklorpion> iceroot: ty
, I have one external box for disks, which you can connect to computer with USB cable. I should create a new partition table there?
[11:09] <MattMurray> sorry, im a total noob, is wlan0 the first network
[11:09] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: your wlan0 device should then be up
[11:10] <MattMurray> it is up
[11:10] <MattMurray> but it wont connect to it
[11:10] <yagoo> amin`, is the .exe an archive or program?
[11:10] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: select the wireless network you wish to connect to and enter your details
[11:10] <yagoo> MattMurray, u reading me? :)
[11:10] <sklorpion> iceroot: so i put that thing in gnome autostart and nothing happnd how can i find out if gnome even tryed to start it?
[11:10] <yagoo> MattMurray, I said its the first wifi device
[11:11] <yagoo> MattMurray, it's the physical component of the local machine
[11:11] <sklorpion> iceroot: no process "conky" at all
[11:11] <YankDownUnder> Fragy, Mate, this is the resolution I've had to come up with - I banged my head badly trying to get a WD green drive to work, ended up buying another (non WD) for the client - in being stuck with the WD green, I experiemented and found this to be the resolution that works; so yeah, do all yer partitioning manually in the external housing, then stick it in the target machine, make sure you do the "manual partitioning" and you
[11:11] <YankDownUnder>  don't have to really format any of the partitions, just let the installer write the map to the drive and off you go mate.
[11:11] <MattMurray> i did, i clicked on it entered the pasword, it tries to connect for a while, but then just disconnects
[11:11] <yagoo> MattMurray, like first harddrive or first mouse..
[11:11] <raju> yagoo: both , first it will extract and run the program
[11:11] <yagoo> raju, ?
[11:11] <iceroot> sklorpion: use absolute path
[11:12] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: can you please type iwconfig?
[11:12] <amin`> yagoo: the upadte bois is program i think and i got the drive free dos from that site U meaned and the name isdrdflash.exe and itg should be archive
[11:12] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: in the terminal
[11:12] <MattMurray> i did
[11:12] <yagoo> amin`, msdos622 is downloadable from bootdisk.. i only trust msdoss622 for bios upgrades..
[11:12] <yagoo> (bootdisk.com)
[11:13] <MattMurray> lo        no wireless extensions.
[11:13] <MattMurray> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[11:13] <MattMurray> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any
[11:13] <MattMurray>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=14 dBm
[11:13] <MattMurray>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[11:13] <MattMurray>           Power Management:on
[11:13] <FloodBot1> MattMurray: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:13] <sklorpion> iceroot: befor it was just "conky" and it worked after adding sleep 20 && conky nothing happend, what for is those "&&" why not "|" or just one "&" ?
[11:13] <MattMurray>
[11:13] <yagoo> use 7za or asimilar to extract the .exe files (these exes have zip headers in them)
[11:13] <raju> yagoo:  that executable program will archive and when we click that code will comeout and run from that archive . run any .exe click at show details it will show first the extraction and next execution
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> sklorpion:  you want sleep 20   then conky on the next line.. no & after sleep 20
[11:13] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: that means you probably have an authentication problem.
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> sklorpion:  so perhaps   sleep 20           then  conky &
[11:13] <yagoo> raju, so is there a dos bios upgrade method, yes/no?
[11:13] <MattMurray> how do i solve tat?
[11:14] <MattMurray> *that
[11:14] <yagoo> raju, if there's windows and u going the windows way.. then dunno what u asking
[11:14] <raju> we can upgrade dos
[11:14] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: check the password is correct.
[11:14] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: also check you are connecting to the correct network
[11:14] <MattMurray> it's definately correct, i checked like 3 times,
[11:14] <raju> yagoo:  i am not asking , just telling to yours messgae
[11:14]  * yagoo amin`, raju working together same call spot?
[11:14] <amin`> yagoo this site that u gave me look at it the  i got "Driver Free Disk For BIOS Flashing" the 3rd in line is it that?
[11:14] <yagoo> raju, can um
[11:14] <yagoo> ok
[11:14]  * yagoo ignores raju
[11:15] <MattMurray> its connects fine on windwpos, just on ubuntu it dosn't
[11:15]  * raju ignore yagoo
[11:15]  * raju ha ha ha
[11:15] <sklorpion> Dr_Willis: i want that becouse of my problem with conky i found out that sometimes there might be some problems if u run conky during the start (i had diffrent window then when i run it manually), the answer was sleep 20 && conky but after this nothing happend
[11:15] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: hang around, I'll find you a link for enabling wireless in ubuntu.
[11:15] <MattMurray> thanks
[11:16] <sklorpion> Dr_Willis: so i want system to wait 20 sec and then start conky
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> sklorpion:  there should be no need to do 'sleep &&'
[11:17] <sklorpion> Dr_Willis: i'll try to do simple script and put it in autostart of gnom
[11:17] <sklorpion> e
[11:17] <tonysan> I can't use arrow keys to "reuse" my previous commands in ubuntu 10.04 server. how can I fix this?
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> sklorpion:  'sleep 20'  should work.. sleep 20 &&  - runs the next command IF sleep returns a succss error code.
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> sklorpion:  sleep 20 &   -> is TOTALLY differnt.. it will run the command  and sleep in the background, then run the next command.. so sleep des nothing in that case
[11:18] <sklorpion> Dr_Willis: yes but i cant solve my problem with out sleep. If conky starts with system/gnome it makes strange window not the same as if i start it manually
[11:18] <r0fs3ck5> MattMurray: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> sklorpion:  i aways make a startconky.sjh script that  does sleep 20  then runs conky on the next line.
[11:18] <sklorpion> Dr_Willis: all try to do mine then
[11:19] <sklorpion> Dr_Willis: I'll*
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> #!/bin/sh     sleep 20    conky              <----------- 3 lines in an executable script file
[11:19] <amin`> anybody help me with my bios update
[11:20] <nnubuntu> i have 7 Compaq SG3145IL PC (P-E2140( 1.6 GHz) 512 RAM)
[11:20] <nnubuntu> after UBUNTU installation its freezes
[11:20] <nnubuntu> ...Some time its working fine but after 30-50 minutes suddenly Freezes
[11:20] <nnubuntu> and i m 20 Wipro PC working fine
[11:20] <FloodBot1> nnubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:21] <sklorpion> Dr_Willis: is it enought: #!/bin/bash
[11:21] <sklorpion> sleep 20 && conky
[11:22] <nnubuntu> Compaq SG3145IL PC (P-E2140( 1.6 GHz) 512 RAM)
[11:22] <nnubuntu> after UBUNTU installation its freezes
[11:24] <dudi> Hi I have big problem with broadcom drivers. Ubuntu didn't recognize my device.
[11:25] <paradox_> Hello, everyone.
[11:26] <bl4nd> am i in the right place to talk about ubuntu
[11:26] <thegoodcushion> yes
[11:26] <bl4nd> ok im tryin to instal ubuntu server on a drive, do i need it formatting first, as no matter what option i choose the monitor jst goes blank ?..
[11:27] <sklorpion> what is the differenc in performerence id i compile systm from sources like gentoo? Is it visable?
[11:27] <sklorpion> Dr_Willis: works perfectly :]
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> sklorpion:  what does? :) I dont find recompiling stuff - worth the effort.
[11:27] <thegoodcushion> bl4nd: the ubuntu installer can format it
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> bl4nd:  whats your video chipset?
[11:28] <mithran> bl4nd: if you are installing it over a network, you should give it some time
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> sklorpion:  i mentoned earlier that you dont need sleep 20 &&   unless you feel the need to have both commands on the same line..
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> skeep 20
[11:28] <bl4nd> i get the option to instal in english then the 5 other options , then when i click instal server, it jst goers blank
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> conky
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> works just as well.
[11:28] <sklorpion> Dr_Willis: my script :] conky runs great!
[11:28] <bl4nd> its a tower on its own at the minute
[11:29] <bl4nd> not on a network jst yet
[11:29] <sklorpion> Dr_Willis: looks more pro :-) lol
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> looks more silly :)
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> im not sure how  'sleep 20' could ever fail. unless you did a ctrl-c to it,
[11:30] <sklorpion> so u dont find compiling fom source as good idea to speed up system?
[11:30] <mithran> bl4nd: what version?
[11:30] <bl4nd> the new one , erm , 11
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> sklorpion:  i doubt if you will gain much.. and spend a lot of time doing it..
[11:30] <mithran> bl4nd: sorry have not tried
[11:31] <bl4nd> should i get 10 down again ?..
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> I used gentoo for some time. spent all day just recompiling stuff...
[11:31] <bl4nd> lol
[11:31] <zvacet> bl4nd:  if you reinstall it if you mean downgrade
[11:33] <bl4nd> its jst an old drive, its no trouble gettin 10 and stickin that on a disc to try, i'll be back in a bit, thanx for your time ;)
[11:33] <mithran> bl4nd: i just used 10.04 because it was LTS..not so adventerous with the servers :)
[11:33] <root> hello
[11:34] <zvacet> bl4nd: if you vat server then 10.4 id probably better choice
[11:34] <r0fs3ck5> hello
[11:34] <sklorpion> Dr_Willis: i found some info about it, ppl say that u can gain about 1-2% performerence :]
[11:34] <yagoo> !ubuntu-de
[11:35] <yagoo> amin`, join #ubuntu-dea
[11:35] <yagoo> amin`, join #ubuntu-de
[11:35] <Guest41559> hai i'm join ubuntu firts
[11:35] <jarza> krzysiek smierdzi
[11:36] <Duli> jarza to debil
[11:36] <jarza> hi men
[11:36] <Duli> hi hi nie masz jaj
[11:36] <jarza> i have one question
[11:36] <Duli> u can say
[11:37] <Duli> speak !!
[11:37] <Duli> mother fucker
[11:37] <jarza> spik
[11:37] <zvacet> !ask | jarza
[11:37] <lo2-1> lalala
[11:38] <jarza> have you dotter?
[11:38] <zvacet> !language | Dull
[11:38] <lo2-1> rozumisz czynie ?
[11:38] <jarza> od barka do barka
[11:38] <lo2-1> skurczu jeden
[11:38] <sklorpion> co za czasy
[11:39] <jarza> od barka do barka
[11:39] <jarza> od barka do barka
[11:39] <Hyperbyte> ehm
[11:39] <jarza> od barka do barka
[11:39] <FloodBot1> jarza: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:39] <thunder1212> hi
[11:39] <Chory_> jebac sie luje !
[11:39] <Duli> 2 kinder
[11:39] <thunder1212> i have a querry
[11:39] <jarza> chory na wory
[11:39]  * Hyperbyte frowns
[11:39] <thunder1212> regarding netwok sharing
[11:39] <Duli> ich habe 2 kinder
[11:39] <thunder1212> can someone help
[11:39] <Hyperbyte> !ask | thunder1212
[11:40] <Duli> i can help u
[11:40] <jarza> i vave big problem
[11:40] <jarza> my mother don't love me:(
[11:40] <sklorpion> j #ekg2
[11:40] <yagoo> jarza, stop spamming
[11:40] <metbsd> xubuntu is for xfce
[11:40] <LjL> !ot | jarza
[11:41] <axle3d> on an unknown wifi network with no dhcp server, is there a way to find the local default gateway or ip range (so as to associate)
[11:41] <Guest41559> no spam
[11:41] <spacetime> what does the "l" command do? I could'nt find any man pages.
[11:41] <yagoo> axle3d, yeah..
[11:41] <LjL> spacetime: it's an alias for "ls" i believe
[11:42] <Duli> umcyk umcyk
[11:42] <LjL> spacetime: specifically, it's an alias for "ls -CF"
[11:42] <axle3d> yagoo: which is?
[11:42] <LjL> spacetime: you can open the file ~/.bashrc to see that
[11:42] <yagoo> axle3d, is the AP yours?
[11:42] <axle3d> this is for educative purposes
[11:42] <Duli> whaaaaaat
[11:43] <yagoo> axle3d, then use google.. this isn't a ubuntu setup question
[11:43] <Guest41559> ubuntu easy
[11:43] <bencc> I can't use "sudo su debarchiver" is it because of the way the user was created? "adduser --home /var/lib/debarchiver --system --disabled-password --gecos "Deb archiving tool" --group debarchiver"
[11:43] <Guest41559> debarchive?
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> bencc:  the proper way would be to do 'sudo command' not sudo su command
[11:43] <bencc> Guest41559: the user a package named debarchiver created
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> if you want a root shell , then sudo -i  is the normal way tod o it.
[11:44] <yagoo> bencc, sudo is not su
[11:44] <sklorpion> sudo su -
[11:44] <bencc> Dr_Willis: I want to to run something as the :debarchiver: user
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> sudo su is redundant
[11:44] <LjL> bencc: does the home exist?
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> bencc:  the sudo command has a 'run as this user' option i recall
[11:45] <bencc> LjL: yes. if not shouldn't I see an error?
[11:45] <Hyperbyte> thunder1212:  ask in here, don't private message me.
[11:45] <yagoo> just use "su -"
[11:45] <yagoo> (same as su -l)
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> yagoo:  su -  will not work on ubuntu by default
[11:45] <bencc> yagoo: that switches to the root user
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> at least not normally :)
[11:45] <LjL> bencc: not sure actually, but for some of my users it just drops me back to the old user's shell
[11:45] <yagoo> bencc, then don't use it.
[11:45] <yagoo> bencc, u mentioned it.
[11:45] <LjL> yagoo, no he didn't
[11:45] <bencc> so how can I switch to this user or at least run a command as that user?
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> bencc:  sudo has options to run a command as a user..
[11:46] <rhada777> what is alternative to the "find" command
[11:46] <Hyperbyte> bencc:  man sudo... look at the -u option
[11:46] <thunder1212> i have a pc which connects to the net using a usb modem
[11:46] <bencc> Dr_Willis:  sudo -c?
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> rhada777:  locate command.  but it depends on your needs
[11:46] <thunder1212> i have ohter pcs which is connected via lan cables
[11:46] <zvacet> rhada777:locate
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> bencc:  check man sudo
[11:46] <thunder1212> i want to share the net connection
[11:46] <yagoo> manpage sudoers
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> Im not on a Linux box.. so cant veryify
[11:46] <LjL> bencc, i've just tried creating a user the way you described, and the shell is set to "/bin/false" by default
[11:47] <LjL> bencc: so you probably want to edit /etc/passwd and set it to /bin/sh instead
[11:47] <LjL> bencc: (or /bin/bash)
[11:47] <thunder1212> ok
[11:47] <rhada777> Dr_Willis looking for a python egg I installed
[11:47]  * yagoo says chsh
[11:47] <thunder1212> ??
[11:47] <bencc> LjL: so that's the problem?
[11:47] <bencc> LjL: they should have specify the shell?
[11:47] <yagoo> ?
[11:47] <LjL> bencc: i think so. without it, it just drops me back to my shell without saying anything.
[11:48] <Sidewinder1> !modem > thunder1212
[11:48] <yagoo> LjL, you're old craft unix.. juse use chsh
[11:48] <LjL> yagoo: bash is the Ubuntu default.
[11:48] <yagoo> chsh is a command
[11:48] <bencc> LjL: trying to change the shell
[11:48] <yagoo> fool.
[11:48] <yagoo> :)
[11:48] <thunder1212> the modem connects to the internet
[11:48] <LjL> yagoo: i have no idea what you're on about.
[11:48] <Hyperbyte> Most modems do. :)
[11:48] <thunder1212> i want to share the connection over the lan
[11:49] <thunder1212> yeah :)
[11:49] <yagoo> manpage chsh < can changes  login shell.. no need to ever edit /etc/passwd <<< this is old slow unix way of doing things
[11:50] <LjL> yagoo: ah i see, yeah that's probably a better way to do it
[11:50] <bencc> LjL: works
[11:50] <LjL> bencc: nice
[11:50] <bencc> LjL: is this a bug in the debarchiver package?
[11:50] <rhada777> zvacet: locate command not found  uum
[11:50] <bencc> LjL: or is there another way to run a command as that user without changing his shell?
[11:50] <rhada777> thought it was standard
[11:50] <sklorpion> Dr_Willis: is there some global log for errors/warnings from apllications? Those errors which are normally displeyed in terminal if u run them there.
[11:50] <Hyperbyte> thunder1212, sharing internet connections in Linux is not that easy actually.  If it's for a home network, you're better off getting a modem that supports it.  Else have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[11:51] <LjL> bencc: i don't think so - it's common practice for "special" users to have no shell (and Dr_Willis is probably right, but i didn't try, that you could use sudo's command-running abilities to bypass the shell requirement)
[11:51] <bencc> LjL: how can I check it? echo $HOME or something?
[11:51] <Hyperbyte> thunder1212, although the networkmanager method described on there seems pretty easy actually, on second thought.
[11:52] <LjL> bencc: echo $SHELL
[11:52] <yagoo> bencc, ?
[11:52] <yagoo> bencc, linux would be pretty insecure if u can do that.. i would suspect if u can bypass it with sudo u won't get the same env needed for ur script
[11:53] <metbsd> i'm thinking about getting xubuntu, what you think
[11:53] <bencc> "sudo -u debarchiver echo $HOME" gives me /bin/bash so it's not running as the debarchiver user
[11:53] <firsttimeircguy1> ive just tried xubuntu pretty lighweight and fast
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> metbsd:  depends on your needs.
[11:53] <yagoo> metbsd, i think u should download it right now. RIGHT NOW!
[11:53] <LjL> bencc: try sudo -u debarchiver 'echo $HOME'
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu - is also very light and very useable.
[11:53] <firsttimeircguy1> +1 lubuntu
[11:53] <LjL> bencc: no that won't work, nevermind
[11:54] <metbsd> sorry, how many buntus are there? what's lubuntu?
[11:54] <jussi> !lubuntu
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu
[11:54] <LjL> bencc: well i don't know actually
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu isent an official Ubuntu variant.. yet.. but its close.. oh sooo close.
[11:54] <Hyperbyte> bencc:  finger debarchiver
[11:54] <sahilsk> hi, i renmae username to new username from user and groups settings and also renamed my home folder. Now, after restarting my computer, it does accept password with new username , but it says "could not update ICEauthority file /home/myOldUsername/.ICEauthority"  and there's no such directory as myOldUsername in my system. I've delted it. what should i do? i can't see any gui on my ubuntu.
[11:54] <Hyperbyte> Shows all user info.
[11:55] <sahilsk> *rename
[11:55] <yagoo> typing that command (sudo) is started off from not-debarchiver.. I don't see the practicality of this when u can just use a scheduled script
[11:55] <metbsd> but xubuntu is official?
[11:55] <metbsd> and there's speedy apt-get?
[11:55] <firsttimeircguy1> yeah its ubuntu with xfce
[11:55] <sathis> is there any ways that we can install yahoo in ubuntu
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> metbsd:  they all use the same repos.
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> sathis:  clarify what you neam by installing 'yahoo'
[11:55] <zvacet> rhada777: try with witch <packagename>
[11:56] <sathis> Dr_Willis i like have yahoo messenger
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> !im
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> thers dozens of IM clients that can do yahoo chat protocall.
[11:56] <thunder1212> theres an option in the network manager in the to share the internet connection to other computers
[11:56] <thunder1212> when i select that option
[11:57] <thunder1212> the eth disconnects
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> try the default IM client yet sathis?
[11:57] <thunder1212> when i do auto dhcp it connects
[11:57] <firsttimeircguy1> xubuntu installs with pidgin by default too
[11:57] <thunder1212> that is the problem
[11:57] <sathis> u mean that ekiga Dr_Willis
[11:57] <thunder1212> ??
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> sathis:  i dont use any of the IM clients. so no idea
[11:58] <yagoo> Dr_Willis, liar..
[11:58] <metbsd> i mean, is there plugin to speed up download speed of apt-get
[11:58] <yagoo> Dr_Willis, you're using irc right now
[11:58] <bencc> Dr_Willis: LjL:  su - targetuser -s /bin/bash
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> irc is not an IM client
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> its IRC.
[11:58] <yagoo> yes it is.
[11:58] <sathis> all we have xchat with ubunt
[11:58] <yagoo> irc is an instant messenger.. even pidgin does irc
[11:58] <bencc> Hyperbyte: finger debarchiver ?
[11:58] <sathis> but i need yahoo messenger
[11:58] <Hyperbyte> bencc:  finger shows all user info, shows you which shell they have, which home, etc.
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> No its not...  ive been on irc since its been out...    the fact some IM clients do IRC does not make IRC an IM client
[11:58] <thunder1212> ??
[11:58] <thunder1212> what should i do
[11:59] <bencc> Hyperbyte: I know the shell by looking at /etc/passwd
[11:59] <yagoo> Dr_Willis, IM IM
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> sathis:  most of the IM clients can do Yahoo.  Yahoo has no official Linux im client that i know of.
[11:59] <firsttimeircguy1> sathis: you can setup pidgin to handle yahoo messenger and many more
[11:59] <Hyperbyte> thunder1212:  be patient!  What you should do is enable internet connection sharing on the interface you want to share it -on-, not the internet you want to share.
[11:59] <Sidewinder1> sathis, Pidgin works with yahoo IM.
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> Most of the IM clients out work with Yahoo i imagine.
[11:59] <Hyperbyte> bencc, then what exactly is your problem now? :)
[11:59] <yahoo> IM IM
[11:59] <thunder1212> i know
[12:00] <sathis> Sidewinder1 so just apt-get install pidgin enough
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> !info pidgin
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> What is the default IM client these days anyway?