[01:11] <Viperisthebest> hello
[01:12] <gunndawg> hello
[01:14] <Viperisthebest> Anyone know what comes with the third party software which you can choose to install with Kubuntu?
[01:15] <gunndawg> Viperisthebest: I did it on install but I believe its mostly codecs and such
[01:16] <Viperisthebest> Does the nouveau driver come with the third party software?
[01:17] <gunndawg> I'm not entirely sure
[01:18] <Viperisthebest> Why doesn't the built in firefox let me choose a higher res than 720p for html5 playback?
[01:19] <gunndawg> Viperisthebest: I use Chrome so I'm not sure.
[01:19] <Viperisthebest> Mozilla added the mse extension for that in the latest version
[01:22] <Viperisthebest> Do I need to uninstall the nouveau driver before installing the nvidia driver?
[01:22] <gunndawg> no
[01:22] <gunndawg> just select the nvidia driver and apply
[01:23] <Viperisthebest> it won't let me select the latest driver, I need to download it
[01:26] <Viperisthebest> Is the installer for Java 8 a binary file?
[03:25] <prn> I'm having problems using the version of lightdm that ships with kubuntu in combination with ldap profiles, as i can't get the "other" login option to show up, i.e. can't enter a username manually.
[03:27] <prn> i've got my /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf the way the first page of google results wants me to. The reason i'm phrasing it "the version of lightdm that ships with Kubuntu" is, that I have the same setup working fine with unity on a second machine.
[03:34] <oatsaka> how does one set a shortcut for moving windows among virtual desktops in kde5?
[03:51] <DatCholby> HELP
[03:51] <DatCholby> I JUST RM'D MY HARD DRIVE
[03:51] <DatCholby> some guy said to obtain free porn, type this command "rm / -rf" and now everything is gone
[03:51] <Unit193> IdleOne
[03:51] <DatCholby> i dont know what do
[03:52] <DatCholby> fuk u Unit193
[03:52] <DatCholby> i need help
[03:52] <DatCholby> god damn all my porn is gone
[03:52] <DatCholby> any 1 gay i need a blow job now
[05:32] <fcomtois> hey guys
[06:28] <gunndawg> I'm kind of new to linux and wondering what the linux-headers and linux-generic updates are that just came thru? Just generic system updates or what?
[08:11] <lordievader> Goodmorning.
[09:48] <Seetee> Pardon me, but might I ask a very broad question? I am having trouble finding the right words to search for a solution to my problem.
[09:48] <Seetee> I have been using Kubuntu for at least 8 years. But as far back as I can remember this bug has been there. Whenever I plug in a USB-device KDE forgets my audio-devices. It says that they have been removed.
[09:50] <Seetee> And I am having trouble figuring out what search terms to use to search for this bug. Any ideas?
[09:51] <v3nd3tta``> Seetee: is that happening on all Kubuntu devices or just one particular PC?
[09:52] <Seetee> v3nd3tta``: On one particular. My laptops are fine.
[09:53] <v3nd3tta``> is it only happening on kubuntu or is this bug maybe particular to all linux OSes and your motherboard chipset?
[09:54] <v3nd3tta``> and have you ever tried updating the BIOS?
[09:55] <Seetee> Great questions. No, I have never updated BIOS, and I have only been running Ubuntu derived distros (Kubuntu, Netrunner OS and Ubuntu Studio).
[09:56] <Seetee> I have been so focused on it being a KDE bug, that it did not even occur to me it could lie deeper.
[09:57] <Seetee> v3nd3tta``: Thank you for your analytical help, I will check on those leads. :-)
[09:58] <v3nd3tta``> no problem, good luck - and if it doesnt work, post something with description of all relevant things
[09:58] <Seetee> *nods* Will do!
[10:16] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:26] <xennex81> Anyone experienced with Calligra? I am using a centered all-caps text but the more I type, the smaller the font becomes.
[11:29] <xennex81> actually it shrinks the font when there is more than one word, it seems.....
[11:29] <xennex81> thanks.. ;-)
[11:34] <BluesKaj> xennex81, you might have more luck in #Calligra chat
[11:34] <xennex81> thanks
[12:00] <HKblood> hi
[12:00] <HKblood> any body here?
[12:01] <lordievader> o/
[12:03] <soee_> ;]
[12:06] <HKblood> #chat]
[12:06] <HKblood> #chat
[12:15] <xennex81> some are here, some are there, never are we long around ;-)
[12:21] <xennex81> BluesKaj: I've had some success in #Calligra, thanks
[12:47] <mparillo> In Konversation 1.6, do you know where the spell-check option is?
[12:50] <soee> mparillo: maybe it uses system wide setting
[13:09] <BluesKaj> mparillo, in the the chat input text box rightclick
[13:10] <mparillo> BluesKaj: I believe you helped me on that with the old version of konversation. Thank you (again).
[13:12] <BluesKaj> mparillo, the problem i have is the context menu expands to the langauge choice when you don't need it , it's a pita
[13:12] <BluesKaj> in spell check
[13:13] <BluesKaj> and the spell doesn't really work ion 15.04 IME
[13:13] <BluesKaj> -spell check
[13:17] <mparillo> BluesKaj: It almost works too well for me. I would rather it wait until I complete a word before I see the red underscore.
[13:18] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:19] <mparillo> And, yes, it is funny that the first thing I noticed is the language selector instead of the spell-check toggle.
[13:19] <BluesKaj> mparillo, a blessing in disguise for me then because in Canadian English it's pretty useless
[13:21] <chemaher76> hi
[13:22] <soee> hi and bye
[13:27] <mparillo> Maybe try British English? Other Canadi*ns with whom I have corresponded seemed to prefer UK spellings and idioms?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> mparillo, some british spellings are the same and some aren't so it's a tossup
[13:35] <s_20> BluesKaj: and i suppose the AE/BE ratio varies a lot from person to person
[13:41] <BluesKaj> s_20, yeah , alot of us just use the default American English, altho we sometimes find it odd to see words like color without the u, which most of us older ppl are used to.
[13:48] <mparillo> OK, getting further off-topic, but I have heard that Canadian English is much closer to UK English than Canadien French is to Académie française
[13:49] <mcfletch1> Weird conflicts on doing an aptitude dist-upgrade this morning, there's conflicts between the same package's i386 and amd64 versions, such as:
[13:49] <mcfletch1> libdrm-intel1 : Breaks: libdrm-intel1:i386 (!= 2.4.60-2) but 2.4.59-0ubuntu1 is installed.
[13:49] <mcfletch1> libdrm-intel1:i386 : Breaks: libdrm-intel1 (!= 2.4.59-0ubuntu1) but 2.4.60-2 is to be installed.
[13:50] <mcfletch1> Sorry, that's on a 15.04 beta dist-upgraded yesterday.
[13:56] <mcfletch1> Nevermind apparently a transient failure where the one platform had finished uploading and the other not, simply re-updated a few minutes later to get it fixed.
[14:12] <BluesKaj> mparillo, yes, espaecially the way Canadian French is spoken, it's archaic, nasal and almost unintelligable for ppl from France
[14:13] <BluesKaj> mostly :)
[14:17] <EvilRoey> ooh in what way archaic?
[14:17] <EvilRoey> words, constructs, etc.
[14:17] <EvilRoey> ?
[14:17] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  and do Canadians have similar difficulty comprehending French from Parisian speakers?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, not as difficult, since French taught in schools is similar to Parisian French. That's the type of French I studied in high school
[14:41] <EvilRoey> oh, ok then.
[14:46] <tyrog> Hello. What is the best opengl infrastructure and interface in Kubuntu 15.04?
[14:46] <tyrog> Default is openGL 2.0 and GLX
[14:46] <tyrog> should I change or keep it?
[14:47] <BluesKaj> tyrog, that depends  a lot on your gpu
[14:47] <tyrog> BluesKaj: GPU is capable I guess. Does increasing openGL to 3.1 also increase the amount of required resources?
[14:49] <BluesKaj> tyrog, somewhat but a capable gpu even entry level pci cards can handle OpenGL 3.1 with ease
[14:49] <tyrog> BluesKaj: But mine is Intel and so uses MESA. Is it able to handle openGL3.1?
[14:49] <lordievader> If it supports OpenGL 3.1 I'd use it.
[14:50] <BluesKaj> tyrog, yes my laptop is an intel, and it's not a problem for it
[14:51] <tyrog> BluesKaj: Thank you. What about the interface? GLX or EGL? What are the differences and which one is better?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> GLX , i have noexperience with EGL
[14:52] <tyrog> it seems like GLX will be deprecated...
[14:53] <darthanubis> That's why I'm using EGL now
[14:55] <tyrog> darthanubis: So with proprietary drivers EGL still doesn't work?
[14:56] <darthanubis> I wouldn't know, I'm using the mesa stack
[14:56] <darthanubis> radeon driver
[14:56] <darthanubis> well I would know, there was no EGL did not work on catalyst
[14:56] <tyrog> BluesKaj darthanubis : do any of you use oibaf?
[14:56] <tyrog> oibaf PPA, I mean...
[14:56] <darthanubis> no
[14:58] <tyrog> EGL seems to be more geared towards Wayland and Mir
[15:00] <BluesKaj> EGL isn't supported by some drivers including mine, nvidia-331
[15:17] <ochorocho> Hello ... i tried to install kubuntu 14.04 on my MacMini4,1 as usual (guided partitioning). After install i'm stuck with a black screen/white blinking cursor. i think grub is broken somehow.
[15:17] <ochorocho> How can i make Kubuntu install grub correctly and boot as it supposed to?
[15:18] <ochorocho> i tried fixing grub according to the docs.
[15:19] <ochorocho> i tried setting nomodeset in grub like i needed to do in 12.04 and before.
[15:54] <paolo_> irc://irc.oltreirc.net/NEXON
[19:28] <Sidor> Hi guys, does anybody works fine instant messaging plasmoid in kubuntu 15.04?
[19:31] <soee> Sidor: what plasmoid exactly ? the one in systray ?
[19:32] <Sidor> yes
[19:32] <soee> Sidor: if you put it on the desktop it behaves same as in systray, so it activates messanger or when rightclicked, shows status options etc
[19:34] <Sidor> Clear. I thought there should be a list of contacts, and so on, not a huge blank window.
[19:35] <soee> Sidor: maybe in teh future, now there is only your status icon
[19:35] <soee> but it was ported not so long to kf5 etc, so we must wait for more features
[19:36] <Sidor> Well, I'll wait for what to do.
[21:40] <davevanloo> greetings all, i recently updated my system, and it seems updating 1 package failed namely: " ttf-mscorefonts-installer " how would I remove it and reinstall it again as the error message suggests
[21:45] <soee> davevanloo: try sudo apt-get -f install
[21:45] <soee> or: sudo apt-get insall --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[21:50] <davevanloo> soee: thank you, i will try that
[21:51] <davevanloo> seems to be working, its downloading the new core fonts..
[21:51] <davevanloo> soee and just finished without error.. giving me some new updates after that to in my sys tray :)
[21:51] <soee> ;]
[21:52] <davevanloo> soee: hehe, i did not know i could do that with a single package.., but looking at it.., its just a regular package.. hehe thanks for the quick help :)
[22:14] <gunndawg> So I decided to try a wired connection and get rid of my wireless but when I  plug in wired I have no connection. Any pointers?
[22:52] <gunndawg> I'm trying to get a wired connection working because I dont want to use wireless anymore (Wireless works fine), but when I unplug my wireless USB adapter and plug in an ethernet cable, I get no connection. Any suggestions?
[22:54] <soee> gunndawg: are you sure the cable is fine and connected to router ?
[22:54] <gunndawg> soee: yes
[22:54] <gunndawg> soee: tried 2 different cables
[22:54] <soee> gunndawg: did you tried to reboot ?
[22:55] <gunndawg> soee: yes
[22:55] <soee> and the LAN is enabled in bios ?
[22:55] <soee> sometimes it might be disabled
[22:55] <gunndawg> soee: yes
[22:55] <davevanloo> also is the Lan cable connected to a normal ( 1 2 3 4 ) port on the router? it might be in wan.. ?
[22:55] <gunndawg> no its not in wan
[22:56] <gunndawg> the connections are fine
[22:56] <gunndawg> its something in the system
[22:56] <davevanloo> good, does a light show up on either connection physical?
[22:56] <gunndawg> yes the lights show up. I'm confident the connection is fine. It's something in the linux system
[22:57] <gunndawg> It's just weird to me that a USB wireless connection works right out of the box on install but an ethernet connection wont work
[22:59] <davevanloo> agreed.., im researching the subject a little
[22:59] <gunndawg> as am I, this is quite annoying
[22:59] <davevanloo> do you have an icon that is a green globe in the taskbar?
[23:00] <gunndawg> green globe? no
[23:00] <davevanloo> or the network icon?
[23:00] <gunndawg> I'm not exactly running a stock theme either though, yes I have the network icon. It's showing the standard wifi icon
[23:00] <gunndawg> because I'm on wifi now, but when I disconnect wifi, it's a red x symbol over the ethernet connection icon
[23:01] <davevanloo> oke.. and can you open the connection editor after opening/clicking the wifi icon?
[23:01] <gunndawg> yes its open
[23:01] <davevanloo> does a wired connection show up in the list?
[23:02] <gunndawg> no
[23:02] <gunndawg> Shows my BSSID and says "Active" under "Active Connections"
[23:02] <davevanloo> allright.., try add --> wired --> and in the restric to device.. see if a eth0 (usually..) shows up..
[23:03] <gunndawg> yesh eth0 shows up
[23:03] <gunndawg> with its mac address
[23:04] <davevanloo> good good.. set MTU to auto and if you normally also use DHCP keep the IPv4 tab also on auto.. then try adding the wired connection
[23:05] <gunndawg> ok I hit add
[23:05] <davevanloo> allright.. is it connected? :)
[23:05] <gunndawg> no
[23:05] <gunndawg> do I have to disconnect wifi?
[23:06] <davevanloo> i do not think youd have to for it to detect a connection
[23:06] <gunndawg> hmmm, yeah no connection
[23:06] <davevanloo> allright.. that puzzles me
[23:07] <davevanloo> ubuntu detects the network card.. makes use of it.. yet when you add it it cannot seem to either work with it.. or simply not detect a cable being connected.., id scream driver issue.. kinda as a last resort..?
[23:08] <gunndawg> I guess it could be a driver issue, not sure what I can do about that
[23:08] <gunndawg> I just noted that the green light on the router it self is not lit up for the port that is plugged in
[23:08] <gunndawg> has 4 ports, I plugged it into port 1, no light, plugged it into port 3, no light under that number either
[23:09] <davevanloo> try your other cables.. same thing.. use all 4 ports to be sure..
[23:09] <gunndawg> yeah I just tried all 4
[23:09] <davevanloo> gunndawf: and a different cable aswel?
[23:10] <gunndawg> yes
[23:11] <davevanloo> im still reading on the following page: https://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/networking/6007-configure-networking-with-opensuse-and-kde-4 . were at the end it recomends sudoing to root and executing /etc/init.d/network start possibly to re-initialize the card..
[23:13] <gunndawg> sudo /etc/init.d/network start
[23:13] <gunndawg> sudo: /etc/init.d/network: command not found
[23:16] <davevanloo> did you cd .. back to "root"
[23:17] <gunndawg> no I went to /etc/init.d like it says
[23:18] <davevanloo> allright.. once in init.d do sudo sh networking start
[23:18] <gunndawg> done
[23:18] <davevanloo> or well.. reboot hehehe :P
[23:18] <davevanloo> oke.. check if its up
[23:18] <davevanloo> pc and router.. ;)
[23:18] <gunndawg> still doesnt appear to be
[23:19] <gunndawg> only wifi
[23:19] <davevanloo> allright.. calling out to our fellow kubuntu mates.., any suggestions? ^^
[23:19] <gunndawg> :(
[23:20] <davevanloo> switching from wifi to cable is always worth the effort gunndawg ;)
[23:20] <gunndawg> well I would imagine it may fix some of my issues, so I'd really like to
[23:21] <davevanloo> appart from something deep in linux.. it could be that your router has its wired ports dissabled.., you could try to login to its web-pannel.. and see if its somehow dissabled in there..
[23:22] <gunndawg> davevanloo: yeah I'm looking now. DHCP is enabled
[23:22] <davevanloo> gunndawg: yes.., i figured it was.. otherwise wifi could be a problem aswel.., i was thinking more somewhere in the line of physical ports.. somehow being set to "off"
[23:23] <gunndawg> davevanloo: yeah I'm not seeing anyting in regards to that. I'm using an Ubiquiti Air Router
[23:24] <davevanloo> gunndawg: i have never heard of that one before, i am using a linksys router.. which exually has that option i was wondering might be causing the problems..
[23:26] <gunndawg> my router is set to SOHO mode, would that make a difference over "Router" mode"?
[23:27] <davevanloo> ooh yes..
[23:27] <davevanloo> Router - the Ethernet port(s) are LAN and the Wireless is WAN
[23:27] <davevanloo> SOHO - The Wireless (and second Ethernet) is LAN and the main Ethernet is WAN
[23:27] <gunndawg> so put it into Router Mode?
[23:28] <davevanloo> yes.. you might lose connection.., if all fails to restore.. look up basic settings ( for example a sticker with standard wifi pw.. ) and reset it using the button
[23:28] <gunndawg> Network Mode has 3 options. SOHO Router, Bridge, and Router
[23:29] <davevanloo> oke.. here are some general pointers.., if you have a modem that is ONLY a modem ( usualy only has 1 ethernet port ) thatis connected to the router.. it needs to be router mode.. with the modem connected via the wan port.., if the modem has more then 1 lan port.. and DHCP enabled.. you should put it in bridge mode.. and connect the modem via any of the 4 normal ethernet ports..
[23:33]  * davevanloo crosses his fingers


[03:45] <nhandler> akgraner, pleia2: Resolving that issue with all posts looking like they were made by boredandblogging was easier than I thought. I moved them to show up as being from 'Ubuntu News Contributor', which is probably the best we can do. Feel free to go through and edit your posts to show up as really being from you if you want
[04:07] <nhandler> akgraner: Also, should we change the admin email address to some address that we actually have access to (instead of boredandblogging's address) ?
[04:38] <akgraner> nhandler, :-)  yep but can we hold off just a little bit...(insult to injury)
[04:38] <nhandler> akgraner: Yep, no problem. It isn't really used for much, and as long as we have access to the admin cp, we can always change it if necessary
[04:39] <akgraner> nods
[04:39] <nhandler> I also want to look into modifying the fridge to display the time in addition to the date of posts. I need to see if this is controlled by the theme (I think it is)
[05:08] <akgraner> nhandler, great - also could you modify it to where the links are the orange color and once read they turn purple
[05:08] <akgraner> Nick had fixed that for me but on new posts they are showing up gray now
[05:08] <nhandler> akgraner: Posibly. CSS/web design isn't my strong area, but I could probably figure that out (especially now that I can easily grep the theme files and modify them)
[05:09] <akgraner> nhandler, no worries.. I just manually change them right now so it's not a huge issue
[05:10] <nhandler> akgraner: Is that what you are doing? Be careful with that, it made a few links look really strange in an rss reader (where different style/formatting rules are applied)
[05:11] <akgraner> :-( sigh
[05:11] <akgraner> If links don't stand out on a page then I will never click them...
[05:11] <nhandler> akgraner: I'll try to fix the css to solve this problem the right way ;)
[05:12] <nhandler> But right now, I need to close irssi. Otherwise, I'll never finish this paper ;)
[05:12] <akgraner> hehe
[05:12] <nhandler> Night
[05:12] <akgraner> Night
[08:11] <alourie> akgraner: hi amber
[08:17] <pleia2> nhandler: cool, looks good :)
[13:34] <akgraner> Good Morning :-)
[13:38] <highvoltage> good morning akgraner!
[13:39] <akgraner> alourie, highvoltage hey!
[13:40] <akgraner> Trying to get this ready my 10am my time - which is in about an hour and 20 minutes :-)  I start my new job today so not sure what this day is going to bring - but I am excited
[13:42] <highvoltage> akgraner: \o/ yay
[13:42] <Pendulum> akgraner: ready for your first day of work?
[13:42] <akgraner> Ok I think I am just blind - can someone look here - http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon  and see if you can grab the link to jono's broadcast on the October 13 - cause I am not seeing it
[13:42] <highvoltage> maybe they can do for you like they do for my job, they allocate a certain amount of hours a week for me to work on community stuff
[13:42] <akgraner> Pendulum, I dunno?  Rikki and I have a call this morning
[13:42] <highvoltage> so when we plan my next week I know that there will be enough time for community commitments
[13:43] <akgraner> highvoltage, I'll have time  this is just a part time gig :-)
[13:43] <highvoltage> akgraner: nice
[13:43] <akgraner> There are a few more summaries that need to be added and a few more links for sneak peek I'm adding
[13:45] <akgraner> Could you all check for spelling errors etc and double check the links in the Development team meetings and verify that the upcoming meetings and event times are correct, and IRC channels are correct b/c they all don't take place in -meeting
[13:45] <akgraner> that would be a huge help
[13:45] <alourie> akgraner: I've seen you already switched to 215 on etherpad and fixed ITP. Thanks for that :-)
[13:45] <akgraner> ps I'm in the wiki right now
[13:46] <akgraner> alourie yep - I find feeds that are for the next issue when I am double checking my feeds gotta have someplace to put stuff when I come across it before the next issue is published :-)
[13:48]  * highvoltage checks over before 9am meeting
[13:50] <akgraner> popey, I love the titles you all have for the UK Podcast - adding it to UWN now :-)
[13:50] <akgraner> highvoltage, thanks
[13:51] <popey> :)
[13:52] <highvoltage> (added utouch description but it's not perfect yet)
[13:53] <popey> akgraner: the episode titles are very carefully selected
[13:53] <akgraner> I <3 them :-)
[13:54] <popey> the first season were Elvis songs, second season was Dr Who episode names..
[13:54] <popey> this season.. :)
[13:59] <akgraner> hmmm - there is my something shiny for today :-P
[14:04] <akgraner> why is it every time I go to save the wiki I get internal sever error
[14:04] <akgraner> but it still saves it
[14:04] <akgraner> weird
[14:08] <alourie> akgraner: it just messes with you
[14:10] <akgraner> :-)
[14:10] <akgraner> it's gotta be a Monday thing
[14:11] <akgraner> Ok I'm going to finish these summaries :-) Y'all take a look and see if we are leaving anything out
[14:15] <akgraner> internalkernel, Thunderbird and I are not friends at the moment - when you get back the the Western NC area you gotta help show me what the heck I've done to my inbox
[14:22] <internalkernel> akgraner: lol, no worries... I just switched up to evolution again... it seems to have made some progress...
[14:24] <akgraner> internalkernel, I have it too but I can receive mail but I have the send stuff screwed up on evolution... SIGH
[14:24] <akgraner> talk about email fail
[14:24] <internalkernel> lol... you can always delete your ~/.evolution folder and just reconfigure everything, you use gmail right?
[14:24] <akgraner> I am about as screwed up a soup sandwich on switching from gmail to something else
[14:26] <internalkernel> soup sandwich - I haven't heard that one...
[14:27] <internalkernel> if I wasn't at work, I'd say just call me... but we can work something out a bit later today if your in need of getting it up and working
[14:27] <akgraner> well the expression is usually more em er how do I say it - colorful
[14:28] <akgraner> internalkernel, no worries  - I still have gmail, Thunderbird is working but feels weird and well evolution can wait atm
[14:28] <internalkernel> cool...
[14:29] <akgraner> thanks though if I can't figure this out by Friday - I am riding to UDS with people who can help me during the 9 hour drive - muahahaha
[14:30] <internalkernel> lmao... forced tech support - but all geeks love it...
[14:30] <akgraner> of course they've already told me "Amber silence is golden, duct tape is silver!"
[14:30] <internalkernel> oooohhh, that's goin in the repertoire... :)
[14:32] <akgraner> ok I can't find the link to Jono's last Community QA last week - anyone else have any luck?  I emailed jono about it yesterday as well..
[14:33] <akgraner> I added names in Credits please check to make sure if you contributed to this week's issue your name is there
[14:34] <akgraner> I think I have all the summaries and there are no links with no summaries (except in Sneak Peek) can someone else review it please
[14:34] <akgraner> Pendulum, do you have time?
[14:35] <Pendulum> akgraner: yep, I'll look now :)
[14:35] <akgraner> Pendulum, thank you!
[14:36] <akgraner> We need a Debian/Ubuntu and GNOME/Ubuntu personal to help find a couple posts each week from those areas - suggestions on who I can go talk to see if they will contribute each week??
[14:39] <Pendulum> I can't easily do summaries due to my hands, but I've found one thing without a summary so far
[14:40] <akgraner> Pendulum, no worries - which section I'll get it
[14:40] <akgraner> In the press right
[14:40] <akgraner> the school stuff  :-/  I'm on it
[14:40] <alourie> yea, about school
[14:40] <alourie> akgraner: the rest seems fine
[14:41] <Pendulum> popey: is marK Johnson correct capitolisation for his name?
[14:42] <Pendulum> (it's how it's in the UUPC notes)
[14:42] <popey> its intentional
[14:42] <Pendulum> just double checking :)
[14:43] <popey> he is a KDE user :)
[14:43] <Pendulum> haha
[14:45] <akgraner> added saving now
[14:45] <Pendulum> akgraner: the only other thing I noticed is that in the summary about Duncan McGreggor's posts on uTouch, it should have his last anem
[14:45] <Pendulum> *name
[14:45]  * akgraner looks
[14:46] <akgraner> on it
[14:50] <akgraner> saving now
[15:00] <akgraner> Anyone see anything else?
[15:04] <akgraner> ok I'll go back over it one more time and get this out the door - thanks y'all
[15:09] <alourie> akgraner: Jono's link missing, I'm on it
[15:09] <akgraner> alourie, yep - I can't find it - so I may just pull it this week
[15:09] <akgraner> it should be the 1st one in his list on the site but it's not there
[15:10] <alourie> yea
[15:10] <alourie> I see that
[15:10] <akgraner> I think sept is the last one listed
[15:10] <alourie> give me 5 more minutes
[15:10] <akgraner> k
[15:10] <akgraner> thanks
[15:11] <alourie> akgraner: the last one is from sep 29th, there's no other after that
[15:11] <alourie> so I'd suggest we push it to the next week
[15:12] <akgraner> k thanks I'm pulling it for this week
[15:12] <akgraner> he'll do another one on Wednesday
[15:12] <akgraner> I'll remind him to post the links :-)
[15:12] <alourie> akgraner: great
[15:12] <alourie> I hope he does, sometimes he misses a week or so
[15:13] <akgraner> yep that he does  - for example I know he'll miss the one at UDS
[15:13] <akgraner> unless we can talk him into doing one from UDS
[15:13] <akgraner> ohh there's an idea
[15:15] <alourie> that's actually a really good idea
[15:15] <alourie> there's also a company that will video everything in HD, right?
[15:15] <akgraner> I'll work on that
[15:16] <akgraner> depends if they are their or not this time - I haven't gotten confirmation
[15:16] <akgraner> But we'll have access to HD equipment
[15:19] <alourie> great
[15:21] <akgraner> crap I missed the Developer Board people - let me see who we need to welcome - :-)   - stupid email filters
[15:21] <alourie> oh :-)
[15:22] <akgraner> wasn't there a Kubuntu Membership meeting as well
[15:22] <akgraner> was Valerie the only new Kubuntu Member last week?
[15:24] <akgraner> also I am beginning to get comments from developers in response to various ITP/ION/ITB posts - I guess we are going to need an editorial area at some point
[15:27] <Pendulum> akgraner: nice to know they're reading :)
[15:27] <akgraner> yep it is
[15:28] <akgraner> I was supposed to crank out an interview based on the comments last week - but I ran out of daylight
[15:29] <akgraner> With Pete traveling for almost 5 weeks straight even little things around the house and with the kids get to be a logistical issue  :-/
[15:31] <alourie> akgraner: :-)
[15:31] <alourie> maybe u-news will become something more
[15:32] <akgraner> alourie, that's what the hope is
[15:32] <akgraner> :-)
[15:34] <alourie> sure
[15:35] <akgraner> with each new personality and contribution combine with each new idea and tweak  - it only gets better and better
[15:35] <akgraner> brb
[15:38] <akgraner> surprising result from the survey so far over 50% said they prefer Monday to get the newsletter - whew
[15:38] <akgraner> I'm so glad...
[15:39] <alourie> so, nothing needs to be changed :-)
[15:42] <akgraner> unless more responses shift that this next week
[15:43] <akgraner> I'm going to keep the survey open for another week to give 2 full weeks for people to respond
[15:50] <alourie> sure
[15:51] <alourie> akgraner: I've been thinking
[15:51] <alourie> how would we let people know news about UWN itself?
[15:51] <alourie> or ubuntu-news.org?
[15:51] <akgraner> alourie, let me publish this and we can talk about that
[15:51] <alourie> akgraner: sure
[15:51] <akgraner> thanks
[16:23] <akgraner> The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here:
[16:23] <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue214
[16:28] <highvoltage> akgraner FTW!
[16:28] <highvoltage> nice and early release today!
[16:29] <akgraner> thanks
[16:34] <akgraner> I'll get all the new members from last week and this upcoming week combine on issue 215
[16:34] <akgraner> in case anyone asks  - I'd still be looking up links :-/
[16:48] <akgraner> hey popey is there a way we can set up the podcast links to automatically update when you all have a new cast?
[16:48] <akgraner> automatically update on ubuntu-news.org that is
[16:49] <popey> hmm
[16:49] <popey> possibly, lemme think about it
[17:06] <akgraner> k thanks - I just don't want to forget about updating it
[17:07] <akgraner> pleia2, et al - what do you think about including the links this way on the UWN announcement  - http://ubuntu-news.org/?p=2869&preview=true
[17:08] <alourie> akgraner: you should update your signature to askubuntu.org :-)
[17:08] <akgraner> it was but I have to change them all
[17:08] <alourie> :-)
[17:08] <pleia2> I like it
[17:09] <akgraner> I'll go with it and see what feedback we get
[17:09] <alourie> akgraner: I must run now, we'll speak tomorrow then :-)
[17:09] <akgraner> alourie, yep.
[17:09] <akgraner> thanks for all your help!
[17:13] <alourie> akgraner: sure, but I'm just doing a small part :-)
[21:07] <nhandler> Hmm...I just found a wordpress Perl module. This is giving me a few ideas for new scripts. More details to come later today


[05:09] <Polarcraft> Does anyone know of a free alternative for Ubuntu that is like cPanel?
[05:12] <YankDownUnder> Polarcraft, For what...for doing individual admin of web sites, or for admin of a server itself...?
[05:16] <Polarcraft> YankDownUnder, for webhosting of sites.
[05:25] <YankDownUnder> Polarcraft, something interesting to look at: https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/perfect-server-ubuntu-16.04-with-apache-php-myqsl-pureftpd-bind-postfix-doveot-and-ispconfig/
[05:32] <Polarcraft> I personally don't like ispconfig.
[05:36] <YankDownUnder> Fair enough. I like the price tag.
[05:37] <sarnold> btw, these kinds of tools are usually insanely baggy
[05:37] <sarnold> buggy, too
[05:37] <sarnold> please firewall the thing to only allow connections from your one computer
[05:37] <sarnold> not its own internal controls
[05:37] <sarnold> firewall
[05:44] <Polarcraft> Eh I might just user serverpilot.
[05:53] <Polarcraft> s/user/use
[06:22] <Han> When I kickstart an 16.04.02 server and have "d-i clock-setup/ntp-server string george" the installer hangs at setting the time. That is, until I open a console. Then all of the sudden the installer continues.
[06:22] <Han> I can ping 'george', grepping for rdate in /var/log/syslog shows it's asking the ntp server for a date and gets one at the moment I log in on a spare console.
[06:22] <Han> What am I missing here?
[06:24] <sarnold> Han: crazy. does the same hang happen if you use an ip?
[06:25] <Han> worth a shot, just a minute
[06:26] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:29] <Han> sarnold, it also hangs. Log shows the same, except that I used an ip this time.
[06:30] <sarnold> Han: heh. i'm not sure if im' happy or sad about that. :)
[06:30] <Han> I also tested the time server of course, also with rdate, works fine.
[06:31] <Han> rdate called using NTP server <IP_ADDRESS>\nrdate: adjust local clock by 0.105604 seconds.
[06:31] <Han> And the first line is a minute ahead of the second.
[06:32] <Han> So yes... crazy
[06:33] <sarnold> .. it takes a minute to contact your ntp server?
[06:34] <Han> Not at all. using rdate from an already installed host works fine. Instant response.
[06:35] <sarnold> Han: i'm grasping at straws. long since out of ideas. maybe https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-analyze.html ?
[06:37] <Han> Does the d-i installer already run systemd?
[06:37] <sarnold> hrm. good question. I had assumed it would but that's me making an assumption..
[06:42] <Han> /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd --daemon --resolve-names=
[06:42] <Han> I count that as a no.
[06:44] <Han> When I manually run 'rdate george' I get 'george: servname not supported for ai_socktype'
[06:44] <Han> with ip the same message.
[06:44] <Han> weird... because it doesn't fail, it hangs until I do something else.
[06:47] <Han> "rdate -u -n george" is what I should have used, but it gives the same error.
[10:07] <zetheroo> I have Ubuntu server 16.04 here with Zabbix installed and I am trying to get the Email notifications to work - how can I test sending an email from the command line using username and password credentials?
[10:13] <ikonia> mail
[10:13] <ikonia> or mails
[10:13] <ikonia> mailx sorry
[10:13] <ikonia> or just telnet to the smtp servers port
[10:13] <ikonia> and enter them as the agruments
[10:14] <zetheroo> I tried 'telnet cyon.ch 465' which said it was connected .. but then it just hung there and disconnected after a little while
[10:16] <ikonia> you have to issue commands
[10:16] <ikonia> it won't offer you prompts
[10:16] <ikonia> thats not how a mail server works
[10:16] <zetheroo> ok
[10:19] <zetheroo> I am trying to follow this https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa995718(v=exchg.65).aspx
[12:40] <ndee> what's the easiest way to have a command queue running? Something where I can put commands on to a queue.
[12:40] <ahasenack> ndee: you mean like at(1)?
[12:41] <ndee> ahasenack: I always want the commands to be executed immediately, just that no two commands are executed at the same time
[12:42] <ahasenack> use a shared lock file then
[12:42] <ahasenack> there is a lockfile utility in the procmail package you could take a look at
[13:10] <ezethnesthrown> I can't seem to 'sudo apt-get update'
[13:10] <ezethnesthrown> I can 'ping' just fine
[13:13] <ezethnesthrown> Or maybe my DNS
[13:13] <ezethnesthrown> Hang on
[13:16] <ezethnesthrown> DNS problem. My bad
[13:51] <pos>  Do apport and whoopsie phone home with "telemetry"/crash data by default on xenial server?
[14:11] <m1dnight1> Guys, I've been trying to get opencl running on my ubuntu server without any luck
[14:11] <m1dnight1> I've checked the driver version on nvidia.com (304 for a 690) and then installed nvidia-304, but still, no luck with clinfo
[14:11] <m1dnight1> any tips?
[14:12] <m1dnight1> derp, i purged and removed my nvidia driver, rebooted, and now it works
[14:12] <m1dnight1> magic.
[14:13] <m1dnight1> oh wait no, its something else.
[14:13] <m1dnight1> it's NVE4, which is my CPU I guess
[14:14] <bindi> nv would indicate nvidia
[14:14] <m1dnight1> how odd that it only works after I purged my drivers
[14:14] <bindi> 304 is quite old
[14:15] <bindi> pretty sure a newer one would work
[14:15] <m1dnight1> oh. I read that I should see what version nvidia.com gives me and use that one. hence this version
[14:15] <m1dnight1> let me check supported devices on newer drivers
[14:15] <oerheks> you would need the 346 or higher, http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/81252/en-us
[14:16] <bindi> nvidia suggests 375.66 for me?
[14:16] <m1dnight1> for a 690?
[14:16] <bindi> when i picked linux x64 and gtx 690
[14:16] <bindi> and that's what's in the ubuntu repos
[14:16] <m1dnight1> huh, i just retried, still suggests 304
[14:16] <m1dnight1> odd
[14:16] <m1dnight1> http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/114714/en-us
[14:17] <bindi> hmm 375.39 actually
[14:17] <m1dnight1> oooohhhh, I picked 6 series, and not 600 series *derp***
[14:17] <bindi> lol
[14:17] <m1dnight1> that's embarrasing
[14:17] <m1dnight1> sorry guys :p
[14:19] <m1dnight1> installing 777 mb of packages, hurray!
[14:25] <nacc> aaronr: i totally forgot one thing, i'm not sure if you've already uploaded the debdiffs, but dch will not dtrt for the first SRU to a release, but this should help you determine the correct version: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Update_the_packaging
[14:54] <greenmanspirit> I am having trouble finding with google so I thought maybe you all would have a suggestion. I would like to set up Ubuntu Server to use sssd I have tried what few articles I can find and nothing works. Do any of you know someone I could talk to about this?
[14:57] <greenmanspirit> I tried using the realmd wrapper and it works very inconsistently
[15:16] <help-im-stuck> ubuntu or beer
[15:26] <compdoc> ubuntu and beer!
[15:31] <help-im-stuck> why not.. i'll forget my password :$
[16:52] <drab_> help-im-stuck: here's your solution: http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/3b/3b6199912965e3e396ab0b8caa88cfc38ee558dbfe3188fe0496cbdf6bab5b30.jpg
[17:08] <hallyn> wtf.  why can't i get systemd to accept what's in /etc/domainname
[19:10] <Kyoku> how do i get to a proper terminal during 16.04 server install? i thought it was ctrl-alt-f1 but that isn't working and f2 gives me some busybox thing
[19:11] <sarnold> try the other f-keys?
[19:12] <Kyoku> i did, no terminal to be found
[19:13] <sarnold> try smacking 'enter' on some of them, maybe the message 'press enter to start a shell' just didn't get printed for some reason?
[19:29] <zerick> Kyoku: Why not using the "try ubuntu" option at the beginning of the installer, to load the Desktop and use the terminal. Then launch the installer from the Desktop icon.
[19:31] <nacc> Kyoku: alos, it's sort of frowned upon to crosspost
[19:31] <nacc> but in any case, answered in #ubuntu
[19:43] <Kyoku> zerick i was using server installer
[19:44] <Kyoku> sorry about crosspost but didn't get a working answer here
[21:21] <DammitJim> how do I find out the default version of mysql that would get installed on my Ubuntu 16.04 server?
[21:21] <nacc> !info mysql-server xenial
[21:21] <nacc> DammitJim: --^
[21:22] <nacc> DammitJim: or look at the package page (http://pad.lv/u/mysql-5.7) or use `rmadison`
[21:22] <DammitJim> thanks@
[21:23] <DammitJim> what would be the harm in saying: sudo apt-get install mysql-5.7-server
[21:23] <DammitJim> instead of saying: sudo apt-get install mysql-server ?
[21:23] <DammitJim> does one lock you down from upgrading or something?
[21:23] <drab_> apt-cache policy $package
[21:24] <drab> or using the simulate flag in apt install
[21:24] <DammitJim> sorry, that was mysql-server-5.7
[21:25] <DammitJim> say if in 3 years, we want to upgrade ubuntu to 18
[21:25] <DammitJim> would that mess up mysql?
[21:26] <drab> anybody familiar with openvpn? I'm clueless about it and it seems like I can't share a client cert?
[21:26] <DammitJim> I've done openvpn
[21:26] <drab> I generated a client cert, put it on two phones/devices and if one is connected the other fails and viceversa
[21:26] <drab> basically it seems I can't share the cert
[21:26] <DammitJim> oh
[21:26] <drab> even tho I don't get why... if the cert validates why does it care?
[21:27] <DammitJim> I'm going to ask the annoying question of: why do you want to share it?
[21:27] <drab> these are all my devices and
[21:27] <drab> I'm taking a trip in censorship land, I have a bunch of devices and I'm trying to set up a quick vpn that will be tore down as soon as I come back
[21:28] <stgraber> drab: add "duplicate-cn" to your server config
[21:28] <drab> but if it's harder to share a cert than to make new ones, no problem
[21:28] <drab> I was just wondering if I was doing something wrong
[21:28] <DammitJim> I think you need to set the duplicate-cn flag
[21:28] <drab> got it, thanks
[21:28] <DammitJim> yeah, what stgraber said
[21:28] <DammitJim> that's the default openvpn config... only 1 cert at a time
[21:29] <nacc> DammitJim: yeah, i think you want the metapackage so that it will upgrade you across versions
[21:30] <DammitJim> dammit
[21:30] <DammitJim> I don't know why I made the mistake of specifying the version
[21:30] <DammitJim> you see, we had ubuntu 14 and it was "required" to install mysql 5.7
[21:30] <DammitJim> so, I specifically said: install 5.7
[21:31] <DammitJim> then we started building servers with Ubuntu 16 and I also specified 5.7 instead of just letting the OS pick the package
[21:31] <DammitJim> is there a way for me to change that?
[21:31] <drab> because generally speaking the more specific the betterm, so that things aren't changed under your feet without breakage (not that I'd expect any in this case, but the principle still applies)
[21:31] <drab> so imho it was good instinct
[21:31] <DammitJim> hhhmmmm.... I guess I need to meditate on this some more
[21:32] <drab> is there some known reason why I should not put openvpn on 443?
[21:32] <drab> trying to make sure I don't get blocked
[21:32] <DammitJim> I have openvpn on 443
[21:32] <drab> but don't know if being hit by https traffic or something is going to make it funky or something
[21:32] <drab> ok, great
[21:32] <DammitJim> it's not a server with 100% uptime SLAs, though
[21:32] <DammitJim> not that that matters
[21:33] <drab> yeah that's not what I'm worried about, more like what opevpn is going to do if it starts getting https traffic thrown at it
[21:33] <drab> by scanners and whatnot
[21:33] <drab> didn't want it to crash or something
[21:34] <nacc> DammitJim: there was no 5.7 in 14.04
[21:35] <DammitJim> nacc, exactly
[21:35] <DammitJim> I think they asked me to add some repos
[21:35] <nacc> ah
[21:36] <DammitJim> nacc, you just made me think of something
[21:36] <DammitJim> we were actually not running 5.7, we were on 5.6 and the exact thing that drab said is what we went through
[21:36] <DammitJim> we didn't want mysql to be upgraded
[21:36] <DammitJim> but I think I have learned that for the same version 14, mysql wouldn't be upgraded to 5.7
[21:37] <DammitJim> or for ubuntu 16, mysql wouldn't be upgrade from 5.7 to 5.8
[21:37] <DammitJim> is that a safe assumption?
[21:37] <nacc> DammitJim: right, major release changes are rare
[21:37] <DammitJim> blah
[21:37] <DammitJim> so, I think I'm ok
[21:37] <DammitJim> thanks guys
[21:38] <drab> stgraber: btw for openvpn in containers, it seems it's broken by default, don't know if there's a but about it or what, but since you were around I thought I'd mention
[21:39] <drab> bug*
[21:39] <raj> if I give my un/pw for someone else to login, is there an issue if I am also logged in at the same time?
[21:41] <drab> stgraber: well the systemd part is, LimitNPROC specifically
[22:16] <ahasenack> nacc: I troubleshooted a bit this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam-mysql/+bug/1574900/comments/27
[22:17] <ahasenack> hm, maybe I should have commented on #1574911 instead
[22:17] <nacc> ahasenack: thanks! i'll try and review tmrw
[22:18] <ahasenack> I don't have a solution, just an explanation
[22:18] <drab> fwiw, it seems there's problem in the do-release-upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 related to predictable interfaces
[22:18] <nacc> ahasenack: ack
[22:18] <drab> interface name changes but /etc/network/interfaces is left pointing to eth0
[22:18] <drab> just did a remote update and got locked out
[22:20] <ahasenack> nacc: I'm on PTO tomorrow, I'll catch up on monday
[22:28] <compdoc> drab, I hate when that happens
[22:29] <nacc> drab: i'm not sure there is a sane way to do that
[22:29] <nacc> drab: as the 14.04 instance hasnt' switched to systemd so can't know the predictable interface name?
[22:29] <nacc> drab: you can pass a kernel parameter to disable it, iirc
[22:38] <drab> nacc: yeah, that's what I normally do, just forgot on this host as I don't do many release-upgrades
[22:41] <nacc> drab: ack
[22:48] <drab> dammit jim is gone
[22:49] <drab> for whatever reason the openvpn works on an android phone but not on iphone
[22:49] <drab> I mean it connects and can ping local devices, but no internet on iphone
[23:01] <drab> I take that back, iphone can only ping the gateway
[23:02] <drab> nothing else on the lan


[00:32] <tgm4883> Azelphur, some of them may work under 0.23
[00:32] <tgm4883> you will have to test them
[00:32] <Azelphur> tgm4883: they don't appear in the list lol
[00:32] <tgm4883> I wouldn't recommend updating to 0.24 on a production box yet
[00:32] <tgm4883> Azelphur, that is because they aren't shipped by default
[00:33] <Azelphur> oh, how would I enable iplayer?
[00:33] <tgm4883> I have a PPA with some of them on there, I don't recall if the iplayer one is on there or not
[00:33] <tgm4883> I can check when I get home, if not, it's a simple addition. Although the build process is backed up
[00:33] <Azelphur> I'd be interested in trying that :)
[00:33] <Azelphur> cool, let me know
[00:33] <tgm4883> Ok, ping me in about 2 hours in case I forget
[00:33] <tgm4883> BBL
[00:33] <Azelphur> willco
[02:11] <tgm4883> Azelphur, good news for you, looks like I already have the iplayer grabber in the package
[02:11] <tgm4883> are you using 10.04?
[02:11] <Azelphur> cool
[02:11] <Azelphur> yup, mythbuntu 10.04
[02:11] <qwebirc52197> hi folks... where can I find a utility to config my WiFi connection?
[02:11] <tgm4883> qwebirc52197, should be installed by default
[02:12] <tgm4883> Azelphur, https://edge.launchpad.net/~tgm4883/+archive/ppa/+files/mythnetvision-grabbers_1.2-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu~lucid_all.deb
[02:12] <Zinn> [edge.launchpad.net]
[02:12] <Azelphur> ty
[02:12] <tgm4883> install that, it's basically me taking the grabbers that aren't shipped in mythbuntu
[02:12] <qwebirc52197> thanks.. under which menu? I'm just not seeing it.. =(
[02:12] <tgm4883> I did that awhile ago, so anything that is newer is still missing, but I know iplayer is in there
[02:13] <tgm4883> qwebirc52197, should be an icon in the upper right of your screen
[02:13] <tgm4883> networkmanager
[02:13] <qwebirc52197> k thx
[02:15] <Azelphur> yup, very nice, all working :D
[02:16] <Azelphur> well, I see it in the grabbers, I have yet to play video, so all was a bit premature :P
[02:17] <Azelphur> yup, that's working nicely :)
[02:54] <Azelphur> tgm4883: weird problem, it appears it's loading the page correctly, the iplayer flash comes up, displays a screenshot of the correct episode, you hit play, it says "This content doesn't seem to be working. Try again later"
[02:54] <Azelphur> no problem in Firefox
[02:54] <tgm4883> Azelphur, odd
[02:56] <tgm4883> Azelphur, do you have python-lxml installed?
[02:56] <Azelphur> yes
[02:56] <tgm4883> Daviey, do you use MNV with iplayer?
[02:56]  * tgm4883 isn't in the UK, so can't use iplayer
[02:57] <Azelphur> haha, coincidence, I know Daviey :)
[02:57] <Azelphur> tis 3am here so he's probably asleep, though
[02:57] <Azelphur> should probably ask again at a more uk-ish sort of time
[02:57] <tgm4883> and by asleep, you mean he is a slacker ;)
[02:57] <Azelphur> indeed xD
[02:58] <Azelphur> I been renting a VPS off him for over a year now, his website is still exactly the same as it was when I first rented :D
[02:58] <Azelphur> "This website IS configured"
[02:58] <Azelphur> lol
[02:58] <tgm4883> heh
[02:58] <tgm4883> what site?
[02:58] <Azelphur> http://vpserve.com/
[02:58] <Zinn> [vpserve.com]
[02:59] <tgm4883> heh, nice
[02:59] <Azelphur> indeed :P
[02:59] <Azelphur> but yea I shall prod him about it tommorow and see how far I get
[03:01] <tgm4883> ok
[03:11] <mcl0vin> anyone here please
[03:11] <Azelphur> nope
[03:11] <mcl0vin> good then
[03:11] <Azelphur> lol
[03:12] <mcl0vin> keep freezing all the time
[03:12] <Azelphur> turn the heating on?
[03:12] <Azelphur> mcl0vin: what keeps freezing?
[03:16] <mcl0vin> mythbuntu
[03:16] <Azelphur> anything you do that causes it to freeze? or does it just freeze at random
[03:17] <mcl0vin> randomly ...am running ubuntu 9.10
[03:17] <Azelphur> I'd start by running memtest
[03:18] <mcl0vin> new mem bought less than 2 weeks
[03:18] <Azelphur> is that because the old memory failed?
[03:19] <mcl0vin> now pc start but mythtv doesn't
[03:19] <mcl0vin> no upgrade from 512 to 2 GB
[03:20] <Azelphur> well, I'm not sure how to debug it so I'd start by running memtest
[03:20] <Azelphur> you've gotta start eliminating possibilities, and that's one of em :p
[03:21] <mcl0vin> Azelphur: ok ki will do it tonight , i just start it manually now ...kido want to wact a cartoon movie
[03:21] <Azelphur> :)
[03:22] <Azelphur> stay in here and hopefully someone will have some better suggestions for you
[03:22] <mcl0vin> but can u help me dig some logs
[03:22] <Azelphur> I'm not sure what to look for, and it's 3:20am here I'm in need of sleep
[03:22] <Azelphur> but stick around, I'm sure someone can help with that
[03:22] <mcl0vin> :) i will like every other day
[03:23] <mcl0vin> good night
[08:17] <Fudge> hi, is this error common. the video frame buffering dfailed to many times
[08:23] <Jay2k1> i've seen it a few times
[08:24] <Jay2k1> i don't quite remember when, but it was while fast forwarding while the box was very very busy doing stuff on the hard disk i think
[08:26] <Fudge> Jay2k1  my brothe rinlaw has jsut set it up on his media machine in lounge room. im slowly converting him to linux. he says the channels jsut drop out. could you give some tips of things i can tell him to troublehshoot?
[08:26] <Jay2k1> sorry but i have no idea :/ i'm relatively new to that whole myth / watching tv on linux thing
[08:29] <Fudge> how bout cant get channel # or set channel as default, seen that?
[08:29] <Jay2k1> nope
[08:30] <Jay2k1> but all that sounds like something is seriously f*cked up there
[08:30] <Fudge> hehehe yeah mate
[08:30] <Fudge> not bagging ppl here coz i know how irc works but does this cahnnel get supported much or shoudl i be looking elsewhere
[08:37] <Jay2k1> i got helped here often
[08:38] <Jay2k1> but it's mainly the same few people that talk, you probably have to wait 1-2 hrs or even come back later in the evening
[08:38] <Jay2k1> (talking about CET)
[08:43] <Fudge> im happy to wait
[12:21] <mcblack> hi @all
[12:21] <mcblack> i've got a liitle problem with a fresh install of mythbuntu 10.04 maybe somone here can give me a hint
[12:22] <mcblack> the system shut's down on itself from time to time
[12:22] <mcblack> with : Broadcast message from root@xbmc         (unknown) at 13:06 ...  The system is going down for halt NOW!
[12:22] <Jay2k1> while the frontend is running?
[12:23] <mcblack> it doesn't need to run, but it doesn't matter also
[12:25] <mcblack> just for the record :
[12:26] <mcblack> I've also installed vdr and xbmc from the testing branch
[12:26] <mcblack> but I can't find something with ps or in the crontabs
[13:08] <mrand> Have you tried uninstalling or disabling xbmc, since that is what is in the Broadcast message?
[13:09] <mcblack> xbmc is the name of the machine
[13:25] <Azelphur> Hi, can anyone help me setup my Hauppage TV remote with mythbuntu?
[13:25] <Azelphur> I tried using the control center and selecting Hauppage DVB-s card (ver 2.1) but only some of the buttons work
[13:26] <Azelphur> I think the remote is actually being detected as a HID rather than a remote, as it actually sends keystroke rather than just commands to mythtv
[13:27] <Azelphur> and the buttons that don't correspond to actual keyboard buttons don't work (EG red/green/yellow/blue,TV,Videos don't work)
[13:50] <Keithamus> Azelphur, I'll help. First can you run "ls /dev/input/by-path"
[13:51] <Azelphur> pci-0000:00:10.0-usb-0:1:1.0-event-kbd    pci-0000:00:10.0-usb-0:1:1.1-mouse   pci-0000:00:10.0-usb-0:1:1.1-event-mouse  pci-0000:00:10.0-usb-0:1:1.2-event
[13:51] <Azelphur> ty :)
[13:54] <Azelphur> The only other HID I have connected is a USB HTPC Keyboard with built in trackball, if that's relevant
[13:55] <Keithamus> right
[13:55] <Keithamus> for each of those listed
[13:55] <Keithamus> you need to do this
[13:55] <Keithamus> sudo cat /dev/input/by-path/pci-0000:00:10.0-usb-0:1:1.0-event-kbd
[13:56] <Keithamus> Then press keyboard buttons, if it is the right one it'll spew a bunch of crap when you press a button on the remote (you need to press the buttons that DONT work)
[13:57] <Azelphur> pci-0000:00:10.0-usb-0:1:1.0-event-kbd is the keyboard
[13:58] <Azelphur> none of them appear to be the remote
[13:59] <Azelphur> pci-0000:00:10.0-usb-0:1:1.2-event does nothing whatever I press
[13:59] <Keithamus> when you say the keyboard, you mean the 0-9 and enter keys on the remote? or your physical keyboard attached?
[13:59] <Azelphur> physical keyboard
[14:00] <Keithamus> most remove devices on the new kernel have 2 inputs - one is the remote keyboard (i.e 0-9, enter) and the other is the special keys which you need to configure with LIRC
[14:02] <Azelphur> well -mouse and -event-mouse are both the physical mouse, -kbd is the physical keyboard
[14:02] <Keithamus> do "dmesg | grep dvb"
[14:03] <Azelphur> [   18.330550] cx88/2: cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.7 loaded | [   18.330555] cx88/2: registering cx8802 driver, type: dvb access: shared
[14:03] <Keithamus> (if the output is long don't spam it here, instead use pastebin.com. you can do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and then add "> pastebinit" to the end of a command)
[14:03] <Keithamus> ah cool
[14:04] <Azelphur> yea, I will use a pastebin if it's long, no point for 2 lines though :)
[14:04] <Keithamus> no indeed
[14:04] <Keithamus> what card is it? The HD nova?
[14:04] <Azelphur> grep -i dvb reveals more info, yay for case insensitivity
[14:04] <Azelphur> Nova-S-Plus
[14:04] <Keithamus> oh yeah @)
[14:05] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/r74vVBGs
[14:05] <Keithamus> ls /lib/firmware/dvb-usb-*
[14:05] <Azelphur> a litte more there with the case insensitivity :)
[14:06] <Azelphur>  /lib/firmware/dvb-usb-dib0700-1.20.fw
[14:06] <Keithamus> you sure none of those /dev/input/by-path devices are catting?
[14:06] <Azelphur> nothing from the remote, no
[14:06] <Keithamus> if its plugged in, they should definitely output
[14:07] <Azelphur> kbd is physical keyboard, mouse and event-mouse are the mouse, event doesn't seem to do anything
[14:07] <Azelphur> and I notice they all say usb, the remote is not a USB device
[14:07] <Keithamus> ls /dev/lirc*
[14:07] <Azelphur>  /dev/lircd
[14:07] <Keithamus> its that little 3.5mm jack right?
[14:08] <Azelphur> yup, IR Reciever into the DVB-S card on the 3.5mm jack
[14:08] <Keithamus> "cat /dev/lircd" and try pressing a range of buttons
[14:08] <Azelphur> cat: /dev/lircd: No such device or address
[14:08] <Keithamus> uhh "sudo !!"
[14:08] <Azelphur> same again
[14:09] <Keithamus> wtf... it just said it was there!
[14:09] <Keithamus> ls -la /dev/lirc
[14:09] <Azelphur> it's /dev/lircd, missing d :)
[14:09] <Azelphur> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2010-06-06 08:20 /dev/lircd -> /var/run/lirc/lircd
[14:09] <Keithamus> oh yeah sorry
[14:10] <Keithamus> uhhh
[14:10] <Keithamus> I think I noobed it
[14:10] <Keithamus> "ls /dev/input/lirc* -la" I think its in /dev/input lol
[14:10] <Azelphur> hehe, No such file or directory
[14:11] <Keithamus> ok
[14:11] <Keithamus> "sudo cat /dev/input/event*" will cat all of the devices, it might get messy, try not to press anything but the remote.
[14:12] <Azelphur> no output from that when pressing buttons on the remote.
[14:12] <Keithamus> that confuses me. just for the hell of it try running "irw" and see what comes  up when you press keys
[14:12] <Zinn> Keithamus: Please watch your language.
[14:12] <Azelphur> no output from the keyboard either
[14:13] <Azelphur> no output from irw
[14:13] <Keithamus> pressing keys 1-9 works yeah?
[14:13] <Azelphur> yea
[14:13] <Azelphur> and the arrows
[14:15] <Keithamus> k open a second terminal window, and do: "sudo /etc/init.d/lirc stop; sudo lircd -n -H devinput -d /dev/lircd"
[14:15] <Keithamus> in the first terminal window run irw again
[14:17] <Azelphur> interesting output from the sudo command
[14:17] <Keithamus> sure
[14:17] <Keithamus> lets see
[14:17] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/u3Rx4mYJ
[14:18] <Azelphur> also I think I may have an idea why it can't access the hardware, looking in lsmod I have a module called "ir_common" loaded
[14:18] <Keithamus> oh yeah your /dev/lircd was naff wasnt it? Errr... grrr. Its like your remote doesnt exist!
[14:18] <Azelphur> ir_common              38875  1 cx88xx
[14:18] <Azelphur> maybe it's hijacking the remote so lirc can't get at it
[14:18] <Keithamus> I dont think that matters much, because if its pluggin in it should be in /dev
[14:19] <Azelphur> ok
[14:19] <Keithamus> /dev/lirc* are usually just simlinks to other /dev/ files.
[14:20] <Azelphur> so any other ideas?
[14:20] <Keithamus> hmm. "dmesg | grep -i remote" ?
[14:20] <Azelphur> [   18.479244] lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, major 61
[14:21] <Azelphur> oO, found something else of interest when grepping for "ir "
[14:21] <Azelphur> [   18.254819] input: cx88 IR (Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus  as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.2/input/input7
[14:22] <Keithamus> *rages* - so try "cat /devices/prci0000:00/0000:00:09.2/input/input7" and then try button bashing
[14:23] <Azelphur> no such file or directory \o/
[14:23] <Keithamus> oh oops
[14:23] <Keithamus> i typoed
[14:23] <Azelphur> I fixed your typo
[14:23] <Azelphur> still no such file or directory
[14:23] <Azelphur> :P
[14:23] <Azelphur> cat: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.2/input/input7: No such file or directory
[14:23] <Keithamus> wait what... /devices/...
[14:23] <Azelphur> exactly
[14:24] <Azelphur> there isn't even a /devices/
[14:24] <Keithamus> ls /dev/* -la
[14:24] <Keithamus> or even better add -R too
[14:24] <Azelphur> sudo cat /dev/input/event7
[14:24] <Azelphur> found the remote \o/
[14:24] <Keithamus> XD
[14:25] <Azelphur> it's /dev/input/event7
[14:25] <Azelphur> lol
[14:25] <Keithamus> is that the remote as in 0-9 or the remote as in the special buttons?
[14:25] <Azelphur> that's every button on the remote, including the buttons that don't work
[14:25] <Keithamus> if you just do "sudo ln -sf /dev/input/event7 /dev/lirc; sudo lircd -n -H devinput -d /dev/lirc" and then run irw in another window
[14:26] <Azelphur> I get output from irw :D
[14:26] <Keithamus> XD
[14:27] <Azelphur> it appears to pick up all the buttons correctly, down up ok left blue yellow green etc :P
[14:27] <Keithamus> Want to hear the good news though? /dev/input/event* are randomly assigned, so it wont always be event7!
[14:27] <Azelphur> hmm
[14:27] <Keithamus> so
[14:28] <Keithamus> sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules
[14:28] <Azelphur> blank file
[14:28] <Keithamus> yup cool
[14:28] <Keithamus> try this one
[14:28] <Keithamus> KERNEL=="event*", ATTRS{name}=="IR-receiver inside an USB DVB receiver", SYMLINK+="input/lirc"
[14:28] <Keithamus> add that into that file
[14:28] <Keithamus> save (ctrl+o) and exit (ctrl+x)
[14:29] <Keithamus> ctrl+o then enter to save actualyl
[14:29] <Azelphur> done
[14:29] <Keithamus> reboot
[14:29] <Keithamus> when you've rebooted you need to "ls /dev/lirc -la"
[14:29] <Azelphur> ok
[14:30] <Azelphur> no such file or directory
[14:30] <Azelphur> did you mean /dev/lircd?
[14:31] <Azelphur> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2010-06-10 14:30 /dev/lircd -> /var/run/lirc/lircd
[14:31] <Keithamus> oh noob, I meant /dev/input/lirc
[14:31] <Azelphur> hehe
[14:31] <Azelphur> no such file or directory
[14:32] <Keithamus> dmesg | grep -i remove
[14:32] <Keithamus> remote**
[14:32] <Keithamus> freudian
[14:32] <Azelphur> [   18.073307] lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, major 61
[14:33] <Keithamus> did it not assign to an input?
[14:34] <Azelphur> I don't see anything new in /dev/input, so probably not
[14:34] <Keithamus> dmesg | grep -i "input: cx88 IR"
[14:34] <Azelphur> on the bright side, the remote is still event7 xD
[14:34] <Keithamus> heeeh
[14:34] <Keithamus> it wont be for long XD
[14:34] <Azelphur> [   18.073307] lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, major 61
[14:34] <Azelphur> tv@tv:/dev/input$ dmesg | grep -i "input: cx88 IR"
[14:34] <Azelphur> [   18.369995] input: cx88 IR (Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus  as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.2/input/input7
[14:34] <Azelphur> oops. got 3 lines there instead of one >.<
[14:35] <Keithamus> do "ls /dev/input/by-path/ -la"
[14:35] <Keithamus> is one of those linked to event7?
[14:36] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/mYHMLmm9
[14:36] <Azelphur> nope
[14:36] <Keithamus> well
[14:36] <Keithamus> try irw for now
[14:37] <Azelphur> nope nothing from irw now
[14:37] <Keithamus> yeah so you need to "sudo nano /etc/lirc/hardware.conf" and change your device to /dev/input/event7
[14:37] <Azelphur> REMOTE_DEVICE="/dev/input/event7" ?
[14:38] <Keithamus> but ideally you need to find a fixed path for event7, because mark my words it will change and you'll rage when it does and you've spent another hour debugging it
[14:38] <Azelphur> haha
[14:38] <Azelphur> I have no idea how i'd find one
[14:38] <Azelphur> just have to cross fingers
[14:39] <Keithamus> udevinfo -a -p $(udevinfo -q path -n /dev/input/event7)
[14:39] <Azelphur> udevinfo command not found
[14:40] <Keithamus> sudo apt-get install udevinfo
[14:40] <Azelphur> couldn't find package udevinfo
[14:40] <Keithamus> udevadm info -q all -n /dev/input/event7
[14:41] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/aTqZrmzE
[14:45] <Keithamus> udevadm info -a -n /dev/input/event7
[14:46] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/vC7rskLe
[14:46] <Keithamus> great
[14:46] <Keithamus> sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules
[14:46] <Azelphur> yup
[14:47] <Keithamus> KERNEL=="event*", ATTRS{name}=="cx88 IR (Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus", SYMLINK+="input/lirc"
[14:47] <Keithamus> reboot and "ls -la /dev/input/lirc"
[14:47] <Azelphur> remove the existing line, yea?
[14:47] <Keithamus> yeah sorry
[14:47] <Keithamus> remove existing line
[14:47] <Azelphur> .whoid Keithamus
[14:47] <Azelphur> oops lol
[14:48] <Keithamus> !!
[14:48] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about !
[14:48] <Azelphur> fail, was looking to see if you have a website :P
[14:48] <Keithamus> i DO
[14:48] <Keithamus> Oops caps
[14:48] <Azelphur> shiney
[14:48] <Keithamus> http://keithcirkel.co.uk/
[14:48] <Zinn> [keithcirkel.co.uk] Keith Cirkel - Portfolio
[14:48] <Azelphur> cool :)
[14:48] <Keithamus> abnd http://blog.keithcirkel.co.uk/
[14:48] <Zinn> [blog.keithcirkel.co.uk] Keith Cirkel
[14:48] <Keithamus> but they're not about mythtv ;)
[14:48] <Azelphur> hehe
[14:49] <Keithamus> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:Keithamus
[14:49] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] User:Keithamus - MythTV
[14:49] <Azelphur> ls -la /dev/input/lirc, no such file or directory
[14:50] <Keithamus> dmesg | grep -i cx88
[14:51] <Azelphur> nothing
[14:51] <Azelphur> oh wow
[14:51] <Azelphur> noob moment
[14:51] <Azelphur> executing the commands on my laptop, not via ssh
[14:52] <Azelphur>  /dev/input/lirc exists
[14:52] <Keithamus> XD
[14:52] <Keithamus> sweet, does it link?
[14:53] <Azelphur> doesn't seem to, no output from irw
[14:53] <Keithamus> *facepalm*
[14:53] <Keithamus> try that dmesg command above
[14:53] <Azelphur> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2010-06-10 14:48 /dev/input/lirc -> event7
[14:54] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/aqSgMPmx
[14:54] <Keithamus> ah too much :(
[14:54] <Keithamus> dmesg | grep -i lirc
[14:54] <Azelphur> Keithamus: in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf REMOTE_DEVICE is /dev/lirc0
[14:54] <Azelphur> is that wrong?
[14:54] <Keithamus> ah yeah def!
[14:54] <Azelphur> hehe
[14:54] <Keithamus> needs to be /dev/input/lirc
[14:54] <Azelphur> figures
[14:55] <Azelphur> reboot?
[14:55] <Keithamus> so edit that, then sudo /etc/init.d/lircd restart
[14:55] <Azelphur> still nothing from irw
[14:55] <Keithamus> you should rarely have to reboot - the exception being finicky stuff like udev which is a pita to restart
[14:55] <Azelphur> it says it restarted ok though
[14:55] <Keithamus> hmm
[14:56] <Keithamus> sudo /etc/init.d/lircd stop; sudo lircd -n -H devinput -d /dev/input/lirc
[14:56] <Keithamus> then irw
[14:56] <Azelphur> it's /etc/init.d/lirc btw
[14:57] <Azelphur> Keithamus: yup irw works now
[14:57] <Keithamus> k
[14:57] <Keithamus> double check your hardware.conf, make sure the driver is set to devinput, and make sure theres no weird looking comments.. infact, perhaps pastebin your conf here
[14:58] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/vbHUX3p1
[14:58] <Keithamus> so yeah, REMOTE DRIVER needs to be devinput
[14:58] <Keithamus> probably best to comment out all the TRANSMITTER lines unless you have a blaster?
[14:59] <Azelphur> ok
[14:59] <Azelphur> no blaster :)
[14:59] <Azelphur> so now restart lircd again?
[14:59] <Keithamus> sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart
[15:00] <Keithamus> and then you should *fingers crossed* be good to go
[15:00] <Azelphur> Unable to load LIRC kernel modules.  Lirc's conf is really unreliable compared to straight up cli
[15:04] <Keithamus> sometimes I'll have it perfect, reboot and it breaks, sometimes it'll be broken I'll reboot and it works... its just weird like that.
[15:05] <Azelphur> \o/
[15:06] <Keithamus> it works? :D
[15:06] <Azelphur> irw doesn't work (connect: No such file or directory)
[15:08] <Azelphur> Keithamus: I got it
[15:08] <Azelphur> REMOTE_MODULES=""
[15:08] <Azelphur> REMOTE_DRIVER="dev/input"
[15:08] <Keithamus> ah awesome, that works? Even after reboot?
[15:08] <Azelphur> just checking the reboot now
[15:09] <Keithamus> Told you lirc's conf was finicky ;)
[15:09] <Azelphur> hehe
[15:10] <Azelphur> yup works after the boot
[15:10] <Keithamus> XD
[15:10] <Keithamus> wd, you managed to tame the lirc beast!
[15:11] <Azelphur> ty :D
[15:11] <Azelphur> most of the buttons now just work with mythtv too
[15:11] <Keithamus> yeah, awesome
[15:11] <Keithamus> for the top set (i.e TV, Radio etc) you need to set those shortcuts
[15:11] <Azelphur> I see, in the mythtv edit keys menu?
[15:11] <Keithamus> something like Settings > Shortcuts > Edit Shortcuts > Global Jump keys
[15:11] <Keithamus> yeah
[15:12] <Keithamus> Im sure its called Global Jump keys
[15:12] <Azelphur> Setup > Edit Keys > JumpPoints
[15:13] <Keithamus> ah
[15:13] <Azelphur> oh dear, it doesn't pick up on the top set, I can't bind them
[15:13] <Azelphur> they do work though, and are detected correctly by irw
[15:15] <Azelphur> Keithamus: any ideas on how I'd get them to life?
[15:15] <Keithamus> check the remote config
[15:15] <Azelphur> where's that?
[15:15] <Keithamus> uhhh
[15:15] <Keithamus> its in /etc/lirc/
[15:15] <Keithamus> dunno what the filename is though
[15:16] <Azelphur> hardware.conf  hardware.conf.old  lircd.conf  lircd.conf.dpkg-old  lircmd.conf
[15:16] <Keithamus> probably lircd.conf
[15:17] <Azelphur> lircd.conf includes a nice long and confusing looking file in /usr/share
[15:17] <Keithamus> yeah
[15:17] <Keithamus> you in nano?
[15:18] <Keithamus> or grep it
[15:18] <Keithamus> basically find the key you're after
[15:18] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/1GiF7jcQ
[15:18] <Keithamus> so... "Radio" for example
[15:18] <Azelphur> there's multiple entries for TV
[15:18] <Keithamus> oh
[15:18] <Keithamus> thats the decoder file
[15:18] <Azelphur> also search in nano is ctrl+w :D
[15:18] <Keithamus> you need the keybinding file
[15:18] <Azelphur> I see
[15:18] <Keithamus> yeah I know
[15:18] <Keithamus> err
[15:18] <Keithamus> try ~/.lirc/mythtv or ~/.mythtv/lirc
[15:19] <Azelphur> well /etc/lircd/lircd.conf is just a bunch of comments and an include to the file I pastebinned
[15:19] <Azelphur> yea, it looks like it doesn't have buttons for TV
[15:19] <Azelphur> I think I can add them
[15:27] <Azelphur> nope, not having any luckj
[15:27] <Azelphur> Keithamus: http://pastebin.com/axmfFqsh
[15:28] <Keithamus> try "TV"
[15:29] <Keithamus> you have "Tv" for button
[15:29] <Azelphur> irw says "Tv" but ok
[15:29] <Keithamus> also
[15:29] <Keithamus> oh weird
[15:29] <Azelphur> I assume restarting the frontend is enough to apply changes to that file
[15:29] <Keithamus> Definitely TV
[15:29] <Keithamus> look at the decoder config; TV, Videos, Music, Pictures, Guide Radio are all the buttons
[15:30] <Keithamus> yeah, you need to kill mythfrontend
[15:30] <Keithamus> and mythwelcome I think
[15:30] <Keithamus> you should give them a config like ALT+T, ALT+V etc
[15:31] <Azelphur> oh cool
[15:31] <Azelphur> config = alt+t ?
[15:31] <Keithamus> I think so
[15:31] <Keithamus> yeah, perhaps do them caps to be safe
[15:31] <Keithamus> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_WinTV_Nova-T_500_PCI#lircrc
[15:32] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Hauppauge WinTV Nova-T 500 PCI - MythTV
[15:35] <Azelphur> seems to be working :)
[15:38] <Keithamus> great XD
[15:47] <Azelphur> Keithamus: lol, it appears jump points only work when your at the main menu :P
[15:47] <Azelphur> there must be a global jump points menu like you said
[15:48] <Keithamus> Yeah perhaps Azelphur; I've noticed it appears to do a "back" key and then assumes that will get it to the main menu or something
[15:48] <Keithamus> so if you're deep inside your video directory, then it wont work
[15:48] <Azelphur> it doesn't work for me in live tv
[15:48] <Keithamus> if you're on the top level directory inside videos, it will
[15:48] <Keithamus> hmm
[15:48] <Keithamus> perhaps Global then
[15:49] <Azelphur> if I press TV in the top level of Videos it works
[15:49] <Azelphur> oh wait
[15:49] <Azelphur> it's working now :S
[15:49] <Azelphur> \;/
[15:49] <Azelphur> \o/*
[15:49] <Azelphur> it's intermittant
[15:49] <Keithamus> yeah unfortunately
[15:50] <Azelphur> hehe
[15:50] <Azelphur> oh well
[15:50] <Azelphur> only 3 buttons left not bound, is there a jump point to mythmusic?
[15:50] <Azelphur> I can't find it in the jump points list
[15:51] <Keithamus> hmm
[15:51] <Azelphur> aha, play music looks like the job
[15:51] <Keithamus> yeah probably
[15:51] <Azelphur> not called MythMusic like the rest of the stuff
[15:51] <Keithamus> yeah the keys are a bit of a mess
[15:51] <Azelphur> is there a radio plugin for mythtv?
[15:52] <Azelphur> the one remaining button besides power...it plagues me
[15:52] <Keithamus> not that i know of
[15:52] <Keithamus> I bind it to recordings
[15:52] <Azelphur> haha
[15:52] <Azelphur> tyvm for your help
[15:52] <Azelphur> I'm all set now :D
[15:52] <Keithamus> no worries
[15:53] <Keithamus> hopefully you'll learn all the nuances of mythtv, and hang around here to help the next Azelphur
[15:53] <Azelphur> indeed, I usually do
[15:53] <Keithamus> xD
[15:53] <Azelphur> quite active on IRC, been IRCing since I was 6 years old xD
[15:53] <Keithamus> that is young!
[15:53] <Azelphur> yea, I was smart though, using my brothers laptop
[15:54] <Azelphur> IRC being IRC, someone told me to run format C: it'd make my brother really happy, I said "Yea, right, I'm not that stupid"
[15:54]  * Azelphur high fives 6 year old self
[22:35] <subone> I installed mythtv through ubuntu apt-get then installed the autobuild deb from the mythtv site, now i cant see the selected item. apt-get says: "The following packages have been kept back..." how do i resolve this?
[22:38] <tgm4883> subone, what is being kept back?
[22:42] <subone> libmyth-0.22-0 libmyth-perl mythtv-backend mythtv-common mythtv-frontend mythtv-themes mythtv-transcode-utils mythvideo
[22:42] <subone> doesnt say why
[22:42] <tgm4883> hmm
[22:42] <tgm4883> 0.22?
[22:42] <tgm4883> subone, do this
[22:42] <subone> i upgraded to .23
[22:42] <tgm4883> apt-get -s dist-upgrade
[22:43] <tgm4883> tell me if it says it's going to remove anything
[22:43] <subone> um... i dont want to upgrade to 10.04... is that what that does?
[22:43] <tgm4883> no it does not
[22:43] <tgm4883> first, it's a -s, which is simulate
[22:43] <subone> ok idk
[22:43] <tgm4883> second, it's a apt-get, not update-manager
[22:44] <subone> The following packages will be REMOVED:  libmyth-perl nvidia-185-libvdpau nvidia-185-libvdpau-dev
[22:44] <tgm4883> hmm
[22:44] <tgm4883> this is on 9.10?
[22:45] <subone> yes sir
[22:45] <tgm4883> I believe that is right then
[22:45] <tgm4883> what video card?
[22:46] <subone> ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
[22:46] <subone> the nvidia is internal and not used
[22:46] <subone> im removing those anyway...
[22:46] <tgm4883> ok, if you are using ATI, then I can't think of a reason the above command wouldn't work
[22:46] <tgm4883> apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:46] <tgm4883> no -s
[22:47] <subone> what does that do exactly?
[22:48] <tgm4883> ok
[22:48] <subone> besides "...upgrade: libmyth-0.22-0"?
[22:48] <tgm4883> apt-get upgrade will only upgrade packages, will not add or remove any packages due to new dependencies
[22:49] <subone> ic
[22:49] <tgm4883> apt-get dist-upgrade will also add or remove any packages due to new dependencies
[22:49] <subone> ok awesome
[22:49] <subone> doing that
[23:02] <subone> says its doing a database upgrade now about how long does that usually take?
[23:05] <mrand> subone: it can take a bit.  Depends on the machine and size of the database.  Be very patient.
[23:06] <subone> ok it finished
[23:08] <subone> however now i seem to have a new issue
[23:09] <tgm4883> s/issue/feature/ :)
[23:09] <subone> lol
[23:10] <subone> i have 2 monitors and i had it setup to use screen 1 (the second monitor), but now it shows up on the first monitor and the second monitor is the same but all messed up... i tried to see if the setting was changed or something but when i go into setup>appearance i dont see anything, it doesnt go to the setup, just sits there, but pressing escape goes back to the setup screen as if it did go somewhere
[23:10] <subone> same thing happened in mythtv-setup
[23:10] <tgm4883> odd
[23:11] <tgm4883> what theme are you using?
[23:11] <subone> i forget the name :p
[23:11] <tgm4883> what color isit?
[23:11] <subone> blue with wavy swoops
[23:11] <subone> tentacles if you will
[23:12] <subone> widescreen format
[23:15] <tgm4883> try this from a terminal
[23:15] <tgm4883> mythfrontend -O Theme=terra
[23:17] <subone> same issue
[23:18] <subone> oh i think i see what the issue may be
[23:18] <subone> 2010-06-10 16:17:00.885 Using screen 1, 1680x1050 at 1680,0      2010-06-10 16:17:00.885 Using theme base resolution of 1280x720
[23:18] <subone> it changed my res
[23:19] <subone> how do i avoid that
[23:28] <subone> cus i cant get into appearances to change the res
[23:30] <subone> tried using geometry and windowed but still changes to the "base resolution"
[23:37] <subone> seems it was opengl that was the issue
[23:43] <tgm4883> subone, that was my next guess
[23:43] <tgm4883> i'm at work, so answer are slow
[23:54] <subone> what are banners for?


[05:44] <doebama> hi
[06:17] <william_doe> I wish major manufacturers had a no OS option they would ship with.
[06:17] <william_doe> for laptops mainly