[04:40] <martyr2k6> ok, I am running windows as my native OS, I booted into the ubuntu live cd and installed ubuntu on an external hard drive (which I have been successful doing in the past) and went to reboot my computer and it wouldn't boot. this is NOT my problem, because after I went to format the external again through the live cd and reboot from the live cd to my windows, it said "GRUB Loading stage1.5. GRUB Loading, please wait... Error 21
[04:40] <Dr_willis> Daps:  sounds like a goofed up forum to me.. or a  myth.
[04:41] <an0nym0us_w0rm> lalalalalallalalala liilililililili lululululualalalallalalala liilililililili lululululualalalallalalala liilililililili lululululualalalallalalala liilililililili lululululualalalallalalala liilililililili lululululu
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[04:41] <an0nym0us_w0rm> lalalalalallalalala liilililililili lululululualalalallalalala liilililililili lululululualalalallalalala liilililililili lululululualalalallalalala liilililililili lululululualalalallalalala liilililililili lululululu..
[04:41] <FloodBot3> an0nym0us_w0rm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:41] <an0nym0us_w0rm> lalalalalallalalala liilililililili lululululualalalallalalala liilililililili lululululualalalallalalala liilililililili lululululualalalallalalala liilililililili lululululualalalallalalala liilililililili lululululu...
[04:41] <dotblank> +1 for floodbot
[04:41] <sebsebseb> no for pici
[04:41] <Daps> Dr_willis: well maybe a goofed up forum, i won't reveal the URL here in public, for the other users safety, but i've seen someone do it... Don't know how they did it... Thought I might ask some brilliant minds here to see who might have insight.
[04:42] <m0r0n> Anyone firmiliar with Wine and Steam
[04:42] <chris-dowle> m0r0n: havnt used it in years
[04:42] <Daps> Dr_willis: the reason I know it was done is because the admin removed the post after about 30 minutes and asked that people not post other persons IPs... :s so i dunno
[04:42] <Dr_willis> Daps:  just getting someones ip shouldent be a security issue - i mean they could just start scaning your ip if they saw that..
[04:43] <Daps> Dr_willis, just thought it might be worth my while to figure it out and try to find a way to not let that happen to me in the future
[04:43] <Daps> Dr_willis: ok thanks
[04:43] <Dr_willis> Daps:  so do what you want.. i would just not use that forum any more if you consider it a security risk. or use that 'onion router' project for paranoid-level-security to hide your ip
[04:43] <Dr_willis> Daps:  a proxy will slow down your  browser.
[04:43] <chris-dowle> is daps more worried about privacy or security?
[04:44] <Pici> !offtopic
[04:44] <Daps> chris-dowle: a bit of both.
[04:44] <SnakDoc> Dr_willis wouldn't proxy help cache pages ?
[04:44] <Dr_willis> Daps:  just being here on IRC could be considered a bigger risk then that forum i  imagine.
[04:44] <Dr_willis> SnakDoc:  if its a caching proxy yes. :)
[04:44] <chris-dowle> Daps: what is your main concern?
[04:44] <Daps> Dr_willis: hahaha, thats comforting.. lol
[04:45] <_Space_Case_> i got channels now !!!!
[04:45] <martyr2k6> so umm... halp?
[04:45] <_Space_Case_> TYVM
[04:45] <martyr2k6> I posted like I was told
[04:45] <SnakDoc> Dr_willis just checking i use squid for that reason still stuck on slow connection everything helps :)
[04:45] <Dr_willis> !info squid
[04:45] <Dr_willis> SnakDoc:  thats exactly what squid is for. Ubuntu makes installing squid rather easy :)
[04:45] <Daps> chris-dowle: I would like to keep my anonymity in the forum i guess is the main thing here
[04:46] <d1gital> daps: Dr_Willis is right.... /whois daps    =S
[04:46] <Dr_willis> !info anon-proxy
[04:46] <chris-dowle> well, if you want anonymity, the best option is to use a payphone and some random IS
[04:46] <chris-dowle> ISP
[04:46] <giaco_> where can I see where the system is looking for dynamic libraries?
[04:47] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. thers a lot of neat proxys in the package manager ive never used befor.  most do jobs other then 'hide your ip'
[04:47] <Daps> d1gital: whats that?? where did u run that??
[04:47] <d1gital> type it right here in irc
[04:47] <mechtech> gurugeek:  have you tried a different browser like iceweasel, or konqueror?
[04:48] <cowbud> I am trying to create a raid and mdadm says my devices are busy. lsof and fuser both show nothing and I just created these partitions, no filesystem is on the hds yet hwo else can I chekc to see what is making them "busy" ?
[04:48] <martyr2k6> not trying to flood, but here is my issue
[04:49] <martyr2k6> ok, I am running windows as my native OS, I booted into the ubuntu live cd and installed ubuntu on an external hard drive (which I have been successful doing in the past) and went to reboot my computer and it wouldn't boot. this is NOT my problem, because after I went to format the external again through the live cd and reboot from the live cd to my windows, it said "GRUB Loading stage1.5. GRUB Loading, please wait... Error 21
[04:49] <d1gital> daps<EMAIL_ADDRESS>    BUT this is completely OT. so, from a #ubuntu standpoint, you should  sudo apt-get install tor    and learn how to use it.
[04:50] <chris-dowle> martyr2k6: its a good thing your not tryingt o flood ;-)
[04:50] <martyr2k6> lol
[04:50] <Daps> d1gital: howd u do that?
[04:50] <martyr2k6> just trying to get a response
[04:50] <d1gital> daps:  i typed "/whois daps"  right here into the chat as though i were going to say it.. i'm not a 1337 h4x0r.
[04:51] <ForkMi> hi folks is there a program for cracking archive passwords ?
[04:51] <chris-dowle> martyr2k6: a flood is usualy 3 or more lines, or 2 lines repeated
[04:51] <ForkMi> hi folks is there a library for cracking archive passwords ?
[04:51] <mechtech> mertyr2k6: I think you need to install grub to the master boot record of the drive which has winxp
[04:51] <martyr2k6> its win7
[04:51] <mechtech> martyr2k6: not to the external drive
[04:51] <Dr_willis>  Daps  do /whois daps  :) its an irc thing.
[04:51] <BlakStone> I am upgrading my mobo/cpu/ram and am wondering if I can use my current install or do I need to prepare it somehow for the new hardware?
[04:52] <martyr2k6> how to I install grub
[04:52] <chris-dowle> ForkMi: a brute force program is whaty ou will need, and it may takea l ong time
[04:52] <Daps> damn
[04:52] <martyr2k6> because I am wanting to remove anything linux from this pc from the livecd
[04:52] <Dr_willis> Daps:  some times it returns your actual ip. some times ya gotta do a little more work to get the ip.
[04:52] <martyr2k6> so I can just go back to my windows on it, I have linux on my desktop and its perfectly fine there
[04:52] <mechtech> mertyr2k6:  during the install it should ask you where you want to install grub
[04:52] <Dr_willis> Daps:  so as we said. just getting someones ip. is not that huge a security hole.
[04:53] <dylan`> in console mode for ubuntu server
[04:53] <dylan`> how to i download file?
[04:54] <d1gital> dylan`:  it depends.. most likely wget http://www.the-url.com/file.tar.gz
[04:54] <martyr2k6> so... what are you telling me to do here?
[04:54] <martyr2k6> <--- = teh n00b
[04:54] <jason__> dylan`, wget?
[04:54] <Dr_willis> dylan`:  wget command is very handy.
[04:55] <Daps> Dr_willis: thanks
[04:55] <dylan`> thanks
[04:55] <dotblank> links is more handy
[04:56] <rhl6856> can anyone here help me with getting my onboard ATI cards DVI port to work?
[04:56] <dotblank> Although I do remember spending like 2 days searching for a command line equivalent for wget on the command line
[04:56] <rhl6856> xrandr detects the port, but it can't detect the tv
[04:56] <dylan`> where will the file save to?
[04:56] <dotblank> rhl6856: there should be a way to force detection
[04:57] <dotblank> rhl6856: or is this a DVI TV
[04:57] <rhl6856> using xrandr?
[04:57] <ReptoMini> Hello.  How do I toggle off / hide the "X" that is displaying in the middle of screen?  It's hard to google because I don't know how to explain it. "hide the x"
[04:57] <d1gital> dylan`:  `pwd`  =]
[04:57] <mechtech> gurugeek: try this article...looks pretty good:  http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=25845
[04:57] <dylan`> okie
[04:57] <Kalmi_> rhl6856, worst case scenario: restart
[04:57] <dylan`> thank d1gital
[04:57] <rhl6856> when I restart it displays on the TV monitor until X starts, then flips to the VGA
[04:58] <rhl6856> and if I unplug the monitor, i get, nothing.
[04:58] <cheerschopper> reptomini: plug in a mouse and move the cursor to the side of the screen
[04:59] <ctmjr> rhl6856: do you have the fglrx drivers installed? or what driver are you using?
[04:59] <d1gital> hey all, i have searched the forums and done much googling, tried many reported fixes, and am still having the same issue:  my sound simply does not work.  no errors, card is detected, things seem to play.. but there is no sound.  jaunty fresh install on hp dv6 laptop.
[04:59] <rhl6856> no to fglrx
[04:59] <rhl6856> good question, i just 'installed' the open source ati drivers, but when i restarted X, things crashed
[04:59] <Diablosblizz> Can somebody help me with setting up GRUB to boot into Windows?
[04:59] <ReptoMini> cheerschopper: Did not work.
[04:59] <rhl6856> when i rebooted the machine, it was as if nothing happened
[05:00] <Diablosblizz> I have the right drive, but it says "Invalid device requested." is there any way to fix?
[05:00] <dylan`> does anyone have a list of basic ubuntu command?
[05:01] <dylan`> i am new to ubuntu
[05:01] <cheerschopper> ReptoMini: oh well, can't think of what else it would be
[05:01] <dylan`> a good helpful list
[05:02] <rhl6856> how can i determine which driver im using again?
[05:02] <rhl6856> ctmjr: how can i determine which driver im using
[05:02] <Crypttux> altgr + prntscrn + o
[05:03] <acu> dylan you learn them by needing them - however this is the first hit on google - and the answer is preety good https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/basic-commands/C/
[05:03] <ctmjr> rhl6856: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for  the driver
[05:03] <rhl6856> hang on..
[05:05] <rhl6856> this is my xorg.conf
[05:05] <rhl6856> looks wrong
[05:05] <rhl6856> Section "Device"
[05:05] <rhl6856>         Identifier      "Radeon 9100 IGP"
[05:05] <rhl6856>         Driver          "ati"
[05:05] <rhl6856> EndSection
[05:05] <rhl6856> Section "Monitor"
[05:05] <FloodBot3> rhl6856: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:06] <rhl6856> http://paste.ubuntu.com/224075/
[05:06] <rhl6856> my xorg.conf <<--
[05:07] <illumin8> Hello, What ports will i need to forward on an ubuntu server for outside access via internet?
[05:07] <rhl6856> 22
[05:07] <rhl6856> (for ssh)
[05:07] <Gnea> rhl6856: ati
[05:08] <rhl6856> im using the ati driver
[05:08] <voss> illumin, it depends on what youre running
[05:08] <illumin8> rhl6856, oh so each application uses individual ports?
[05:08] <rhl6856> illumin8 not necessarily,
[05:08] <rhl6856> ssh uses 22
[05:08] <rhl6856> webstuff is generally on 80
[05:08] <illumin8> Currently i have dns, openssh, and the web server along with webmin
[05:08] <voss> illumin, certain MMO internet games use specific ports.
[05:09] <rhl6856> not sure on the others
[05:09] <illumin8> ok i have that forwarded on my router but it seems unable to connect?
[05:09] <rhl6856> when you forward
[05:09] <rhl6856> you need to specify 22 on each side
[05:09] <Gnea> !info xserver-xorg-video-ati
[05:09] <illumin8> yes so it only opens that individual port correct?
[05:09] <ctmjr> rhl6856: the ati driver just loads what it thinks is best you probably just have vesa installed you need to install the radeon or radeonhd driver then find what option you need in xorg for tv out
[05:10] <rhl6856> sudo apt-get install radeon ?
[05:10] <Gnea> try this first: apt-cache search radeon
[05:10] <illumin8> gnea using the standard desktop version?
[05:10] <Gnea> illumin8: ask rhl6856
[05:11] <illumin8> Gnea, no i ment i saw your asking questions reguarding video drivers :)
[05:11] <rhl6856> (no thats me)
[05:11] <Gnea> illumin8: I was answering, not asking :)
[05:11] <illumin8> Ahh :)
[05:11] <rhl6856> gnea
[05:11] <Gnea> yes?
[05:11] <rhl6856> one sec
[05:11] <rhl6856> need to paste bin
[05:12] <illumin8> if i remember correclty under system>hardware. it should list available video drivers
[05:12] <rhl6856> http://paste.ubuntu.com/224077/
[05:13] <rhl6856> i want this right: xserver-xorg-video-ati - X.Org X server -- ATI display driver wrapper ?
[05:13] <gnr> anybody with openvpn and pkcs11 experiences here?
[05:13] <Dreki> is there a limit to the number of file handles for concurrently open files for jaunty, if so what is the limit?
[05:13] <rhl6856> or is it the radeon one
[05:13] <rhl6856> xserver-xorg-video-radeon - X.Org X server -- ATI Radeon display driver
[05:13] <Gnea> rhl6856: okay, now notice how the packagename is in front of the description - now if you do this:  apt-cache show xserver-xorg-video-radeon   it should give you some more info
[05:14] <rhl6856> ok
[05:14] <rhl6856> gnea, i think im going to install that one
[05:14] <Gnea> rhl6856: go for it
[05:14] <rhl6856> except
[05:14] <rhl6856> i already have it
[05:15] <kyppcgeek> looking for work sucks
[05:15] <rhl6856> so should i just change xorg.conf to radeon ?
[05:15] <rhl6856> err
[05:15] <rhl6856> lol
[05:15] <rhl6856> the ati to radeon
[05:15] <Gnea> yeah
[05:15] <ctmjr> rhl6856: here you read  this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[05:15] <rhl6856> and restart the gdm daemon?
[05:15] <Gnea> yup
[05:16] <kyppcgeek> gdm... rofl
[05:16] <gnr> Dreki:cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[05:16] <rhl6856> why rofl?
[05:17] <rhl6856> i did the gdm restart, and its hanging
[05:17] <Gnea> wouldn't worry about it
[05:17] <Gnea> rhl6856: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:17] <rhl6856> lol
[05:18] <Gnea> ?
[05:18] <rhl6856> how? its hanging and apparently ssh daemon is dead
[05:18] <Gnea> ctrl-alt-f1
[05:19] <rhl6856> last few lines are restore tv stuff
[05:19] <rhl6856> and then Leaving Restore TV
[05:19] <Gnea> ?!
[05:19] <rhl6856> and then RADEON(0)... stuff three lines
[05:19] <rhl6856> and the last one is ddxSigGiveUp: closing log
[05:19] <Gnea> there's an application that you can install called pastebinit, you can use that to pastebin the logfile from the commandline
[05:19] <Dreki> gnr: thanks
[05:20] <rods> Howdy! Anyone had choppy issues with flash in ubuntu netbook remix? Seems that one fix is adding to mms.cfg, but I cannot find /etc/adobe
[05:21] <illumin_8> hmm to check open ports i could ' netstat -an | grep "LISTEN" ' but that only sees for the machine correct?
[05:21] <gnr> Dreki:use sysctl if you need to change em' for good
[05:21] <rhl6856> gnea, wireless needs to connect...
[05:21] <Gnea> illumin_8: right
[05:21] <illumin_8> It wont tell me if its accessable outside the network?
[05:21] <Gnea> rhl6856: don't see how that's an issue, unless you've got it set to the default setting where it only connects to the network once you've logged in
[05:22] <Gnea> illumin_8: nmap is very good at doing that
[05:22] <rhl6856> yes
[05:22] <illumin_8> Gnea, thank you ill research that now :)
[05:22] <Gnea> rhl6856: hrm... i'd switch it back to ati, deal with the lameness until you can get the networkmanager to connect all the time, then try again
[05:23] <rhl6856> lol
[05:23] <rhl6856> i can fix this by just connecting
[05:23] <Gnea> oh ok
[05:23] <rods> anyone have experience with ubuntu netbook remix?
[05:23] <Gnea> rods: not yet, but hang out and ask in another 10 minutes or so, someone else might be
[05:24] <Dr_willis> rods:  ive used it.. and theres a lot of forums on it and specific netbooks.
[05:24] <Gnea> s/be/know/g
[05:24] <Dr_willis> rods:  ive had no flash issues..  that i recall.
[05:24] <rods> I've found a fix for my issue that I want to implement. But I cannot find where flash is installed, even with locate
[05:25] <rods> I believe in previous versions it was located at /etc/.adobe
[05:25] <rods> but this file does not exist
[05:25] <Dr_willis> rods:  update the locate database with 'sudo updatedb' then try the locate commands again
[05:26] <rods> I updated it recently, but was unable to find it. Does it install to some arbitraty folder?
[05:27] <ceal> i'm searching for a webcam software; which would be the recommended one?
[05:27] <[texas]> how do i change the transparent selection  color thing
[05:28] <rhl6856> gnea, gave up, rebooting with ati lol..
[05:28] <Dr_willis> rods:  no idea. ive never had to  alter the flash files.. you could fire up the package manager and examine the details for the flash package to see wht it installs.. BUT i think it just some how downloads/runs the adobe installer...
[05:29] <Dr_willis> rods:  so what file are you looking for? it could be you need to make it.
[05:29] <illumin_8> ceal, this page has quite a bit of info reguarding the webcam software available https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[05:29] <Gnea> rhl6856: heh k
[05:29] <rhl6856> gnea, the problem is for some reason the 'networkmanager' is locked
[05:29] <rhl6856> i have to use a keyring password to use it
[05:29] <illumin_8> personally i liked cheese but it doesnt work with all cams.
[05:29] <rhl6856> i think i messed something up today that causes that
[05:29] <Gnea> rhl6856: i gave up on networkmanager and installed wicd
[05:30] <rhl6856> gnea, is that better? what are the advantages?
[05:30] <Gnea> rhl6856: it's way better
[05:30] <ceal> thanks illumin_8
[05:31] <gnr> anybody with openvpn and pkcs11 experiences here?
[05:32] <rhl6856> will i get better wireless performance?
[05:32] <hocuspocus> can anyone tell me why I cant use my printer on ubuntu hardy 8.04 lts version?
[05:32] <rhl6856> my wireless card is barely supported. DWA-552
[05:32] <rhl6856> its currently getting 40% when a machine nearby can get 100%
[05:33] <rods> why would updatedb give permission denied to "/home/user/.gvfs
[05:33] <Dr_willis> rods:  its a special  type of directory.    its like dynamically created.
[05:34] <Gnea> rhl6856: it's just another interface to get wired/wireless to work, it doesn't always do anything different, although a few minor things seem to work better
[05:34] <gnr> rods:Gnome virtual file system is a protected file even to root
[05:34] <Dr_willis> rods:  i wonder why locate isent told to ignore it..
[05:34] <rhl6856> (getting it now)
[05:34] <Dr_willis> rods:  ive never had locate try to mess with it befor.
[05:34] <rods> Dr_willis agreed
[05:34] <Dr_willis> rods:  locate also ignores stuff in /media/ i recall.. which can be good or bad...
[05:35] <gnr> the config is in /etc/updatedb.conf
[05:36] <disconect> why does the website have Hardy and Jaunty for download but not Intrepid?
[05:36] <disconect> I don't understand ubuntu's version numbers & names at all!
[05:36] <rods> Dr_willis so the fix for choppy flash player I'm trying is one adobe put in their blog awhile back, http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-netbook-remix-904-hands search for mms.cfg
[05:36] <gnr> rods:maybe your PRUNEFS is missing
[05:36] <Dr_willis> disconect:  its not a version # really.. its the date it was released.
[05:36] <disconect> they have 8.04 and 9.04 but not 8.10 - same with kubuntu
[05:36] <Gnea> disconect: it's pretty simple, actually: the version numbers refer to the month and year
[05:36] <rods> gnr what is prunefs
[05:36] <disconect> oh wow, thats cool!
[05:37] <alex___> disconect: 8.10 wasn't a long term support...
[05:37] <Gnea> disconect: so 8.04 was released in April of 2008, 8.10 in October of 2008
[05:37] <gnr> rod:/etc/updatedb.conf
[05:37] <[texas]> how do i change the selection square thing's color
[05:37] <alex___> disconect: Therefore it was only available for 6 months.
[05:37] <firevai> isnt grub.conf located in /boot/grub?
[05:37] <disconect> hmmm...why are some versions not long-term
[05:37] <Dr_willis> http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[05:37] <firevai> trying to help my buddy edit it and take out old unused entries
[05:38] <Dr_willis> LTS is  sort of a 'business' thang :)  if you are running a server for work.. you wan tit to be supported as long as it can be.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> for your average home user.. its not that big a deal
[05:38] <Dr_willis> disconect:  that url i posted has 8.10
[05:39] <disconect> I see.....do they still release patches and stuff for the non-LTS?
[05:39] <firevai> ok so am i correct here.. grub.conf is in /boot/grub?
[05:39] <rhl6856> gnea, what log did you want me to pastebin ?
[05:39] <firevai> tried gedit and nano.. and for some reason its not showing
[05:39] <Dr_willis> !lts | disconect
[05:39] <Gnea> rhl6856: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:40] <alazyworkaholic> quick question: Can I install Ubuntu && another linux OS separately & have both access the same /home/user area if /home is its own partition?
[05:40] <disconect> I'm actually interested in kubuntu, and want 8.x cuz I"m not ready for KDE4 - already downloaded 8.04 from the website, would I be better getting 8.10?
[05:40] <rhl6856> pastebin.com/f44ae180f
[05:40] <Gnea> alazyworkaholic: you can, but it's not recommended, since each distro has its own little quirks as to what files go on the desktop
[05:40] <fosa> @find drupal
[05:41] <rhl6856> gnea, www.pastebin.com/f44ae180f
[05:41] <Dr_willis> alazyworkaholic:  dont share /home/ amoung different disrtos.. it can cause issues with file ownership. now 2 ubuntu variants can get by with it If you add the users in the same order.
[05:41] <Dr_willis> alazyworkaholic:  but it can still cause issues if you are not carefull
[05:41] <rhl6856> urg
[05:41] <rhl6856> gnea, kill the www.
[05:41] <rhl6856> http://pastebin.com/f44ae180f
[05:41] <firevai> Dr_willis: ... i need your help when your done please
[05:42] <light50> hi can anyone suggest a good gui based rss reader please
[05:42] <rhl6856> gnea, also, let me do that again, now that log has more junk
[05:42] <Dr_willis> firevai:  post the natuer of the linux emergancy to the channel.. :) its 1 AM here.. and im about to go off duty. :P
[05:42] <firevai> oh ok Dr_willis
[05:42] <alazyworkaholic> Dr_willis: ok. thanks. I imagine that has something to do with user id #'s or something like that. It would be Ubuntu & Gentoo.
[05:42] <firevai> all i am wondering is why my buddy cant edit grub.conf
[05:43] <firevai> it should be in /boot/grub
[05:43] <firevai> so we are using nano -w /boot/grub/grub.conf
[05:43] <Gnea> firevai: because it's called menu.lst, not grub.conf
[05:43] <alazyworkaholic> So long as I have access somehow, I guess that'll do. Thanks
[05:43] <firevai> and its displaying a blank window
[05:43] <firevai> wierd... ok
[05:44] <Dr_willis> alazyworkaholic:  users in Ubuntu start at uid 1000, some disrtos start at 500. so it can cause issues.. :)
[05:44] <firevai> so there is no grub.conf in ubuntu at all...
[05:44] <rhl6856> gnea, http://pastebin.com/f2c774510
[05:44] <firevai> i just had it installed the other day myself, and swore i thought i saw it
[05:44] <Egros> can someone help me to find a kicker floppy/floppy kicker
[05:44] <JoshuWAA> Hey can someone help me setting up my wireless internet in ubuntu 8.04?
[05:44] <alazyworkaholic> Dr_willis: ok, understood. Do you think I'll have problems if I manually set them equal? (Assuming I can do that?)
[05:45] <bucky> firevai: you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:45] <prince_jammys> alazyworkaholic: if that's the issue, change your Gentoo users UIDs to the same as Ubuntu's.
[05:45] <light50> hi JoshuWAA not sure if i can help but what is the issue?
[05:45] <disconect> cool - I think I get it now, thanks!
[05:45] <JoshuWAA> I don't know how to connect to my wireless router at all in 8.04
[05:46] <light50> ah. is network manager running
[05:46] <alazyworkaholic> prince_jammys: thanks, I'll work on that.
[05:46] <JoshuWAA> I believe so.
[05:47] <JoshuWAA> I just can't find any wireless networks at all.
[05:47] <prince_jammys> alazyworkaholic: in ubuntu, this would be done with 'usermod'. See if that's installed in Gentoo.
[05:47] <rhl6856> gnea, are you still there?
[05:48] <light50> JoshuWAA: ok if the nw manager is running you should see it in your system tray
[05:48] <Gnea> rhl6856: yeah
[05:48] <alazyworkaholic> I have a 500 GB HDD. Is / = 50 GB, /home + swap = the rest likely good?
[05:48] <rhl6856> (just checking if you saw my earlier pastebin?)
[05:48] <Gnea> rhl6856: saw it.. never seen this before heh
[05:48] <JoshuWAA> yeah, it's there but the problem is, i don't know how to connect to my wireless router, there are on wireless networks being idntified
[05:49] <prince_jammys> alazyworkaholic: 50 gigs seems pretty big.
[05:49] <light50> JoshuWAA: ok and i take it your network isn't one of the ones identified?
[05:49] <dotblank> Hello buntu users.. im looking for a cross platform webcam client besides ekiga and skype that can be used as an alt to aim and has good NAT traversal or a centralized server. I heard of a program called epiphany but I dont think I got the name/spelling right
[05:50] <[R]> dotblank: epiphany is a web browser
[05:50] <dotblank> I heard there is a new pidgin replacement in karmic?
[05:50] <rhl6856> gnea, not sure if this helps: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/xfree-prob-radeon.o-kernel-module-version-is-1.1.1-but-version-1.5.0-or-newer-needed.-99176/
[05:51] <alazyworkaholic> Can someone comment on the differences between choosing a Primary vs Logical partition type during install?
[05:51] <[R]> dotblank: empathy
[05:51] <Netizen1993> hi all.. I have a small problem, I need to know how to find out what driver Ubuntu is using to control my sata drives?  so I can find a driver for windows? for the same computer.. since this only came with Vista.. and I'd like to put XP on it.. along with Ubuntu... Win for Gaming of course :)  LOL
[05:51] <dotblank> [R]: Thx
[05:51] <[R]> alazyworkaholic: there is none
[05:51] <[R]> Netizen1993: stuff linux uses has nothign to do with windows
[05:51] <Netizen1993> it only came with Vista.. so there's no XP drivers in existence..
[05:52] <[R]> Netizen1993: ok and this has to do with linux because...
[05:52] <Netizen1993> [R], I realize that.. but it can help me to find a driver to use.. if I can figure out what it's currently using.
[05:52] <dotblank> [R]: I guess he wants to know what hardware / chipset hes using... a simple hardware information program should get that
[05:52] <[R]> Netizen1993: you're using a driver in the linux kernel... not gonna help you at all with windows
[05:52] <Netizen1993> so I can slipstream a windows install cd
[05:52] <[R]> you can't put linux drivers on a windows cd...
[05:53] <Netizen1993> [R].  I understand that..
[05:53] <dotblank> [R]: hes using linux to determine and identify his hardware and then with that knowledge locate the windows driver himself
[05:53] <Netizen1993> but if I can find out what the maker of the controller is I can get a driver for windows.
[05:53] <Gnea> rhl6856: okay, did you actually replace "ati" with "radeon" or did you add it on another line?
[05:53] <rhl6856> i replaced it
[05:53] <[R]> Netizen1993: lspci
[05:54] <rhl6856>    Driver          "radeon"
[05:54] <hocuspocus> is anyone here familiar with security issues?
[05:54] <Netizen1993> [R]  thanks for the tip :)
[05:54] <Netizen1993> Kudos.. :)
[05:54] <Netizen1993> I now know what I need :)
[05:54] <pcbuilder97> i need help with an acpi issue. can anybody help me??
[05:55] <light50> hi can anyone suggest a good gui based rss reader please
[05:55] <[R]> pcbuilder97: you have to tell us what your problem is before we can know if we can help you
[05:55] <[R]> light50: i use thunderbird
[05:55] <light50> thanks [R], do you use tb for mail and calendar as well?
[05:55] <Egros> could i put a boot manager on a floppy and us it to boot from a USB, and would the USB have to be bootable or just copy the iso to it?
[05:56] <[R]> light50: not calednar
[05:56] <pcbuilder97> well i was installing the devices for my webcam and enterd the dmesg   command and i got about 80 lines that state  acpi unable to turn on cooling device
[05:56] <[R]> light50: my head is my calednar
[05:56] <[R]> pcbuilder97: and what did google say about those messages?
[05:56] <dotblank> Egros: I could see putting the kernel on the floppy
[05:56] <light50> k, lol, my mail usage is moderate to light but my rss is heavy so im after a single task solution
[05:57] <alazyworkaholic> When choosing the location for the new partition, does beginning mean from outside of disk inwards, or from inside outwards?
[05:57] <Gnea> rhl6856: give fglrx a shot?
[05:57] <pcbuilder97> couldnt relly fing anything helpful   directly related to the cooling device message only acpi detection articles
[05:57] <xeon_> Есть тут люди русско говорящие???
[05:57] <rhl6856> gnea, ok.
[05:58] <Egros> Heres my sit, i have an older computer that cant boot from USB via the bios, so i can just put the kernal on the flopy and it will no to look in the USB for the rest?
[05:58] <rhl6856> do I have to remove radeon first?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> alazyworkaholic:  i always use primary partitions (you can have 4 max) when possible.
[05:58] <rhl6856> gnea, remove radeon first?
[05:58] <pcbuilder97> the prossescor seems to be working a bit much too
[05:58] <Gnea> rhl6856: the package? no, they can co-exist - you're only using one at a time
[05:58] <rhl6856> ok
[05:58] <Dr_willis> alazyworkaholic:  not sure if they go from the inside out or outside in.. not sure it really matters much these days for speed.
[05:59] <alazyworkaholic> Dr_willis: will do, but why?
[05:59] <dotblank> Egros: depends on the distro... you might be better off doing a netboot or burning a cd with the kernel and the initrd and using the flash drive for the squashfs root
[05:59] <Dr_willis> alazyworkaholic:  its easier to work with primaries if you ever need to resize them.
[05:59] <dotblank> Egros: does it not have a cd drive
[05:59] <rhl6856> wow
[05:59] <Dr_willis> alazyworkaholic:  windows is the os with the issues with  lots of primaries. :) linux dosent care.
[05:59] <rhl6856> this might work
[05:59] <alazyworkaholic> Thanks, good to know
[05:59] <xeon_> бляяяяяя( туту русские есть а???
[05:59] <Egros> i dont have any cds
[06:00] <error404notfound> I need a utility to make incremental and full backups of certain directory on my system on itself. Any solution that comes to your mind? rdiff-backup?
[06:00] <alazyworkaholic> Windows has issues with primaries?
[06:00] <rhl6856> gnea, following 9.04 instructions
[06:00] <racecar56> how do i install the nvidia driver with the command line
[06:00] <rhl6856> somethings wrong
[06:00] <rhl6856> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:00] <dotblank> Egros: well if you are really really adventurous you could do a netboot.
[06:00] <Gnea> rhl6856: you're on 9.04?
[06:00] <rhl6856> yeah
[06:00] <Dr_willis> alazyworkaholic:  with more then 1.. it had in the past .... windows has (had?) to instll to a primary partition i recall.. linux dosent care
[06:00] <racecar56> my xorg is acting stupid and i have to get the nvidia driver to make it work
[06:00] <rhl6856> gnea, why?
[06:01] <Gnea> rhl6856: let's try something else....
[06:01] <rhl6856> yay
[06:01] <rhl6856> ok
[06:01] <Gnea> rhl6856: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:01] <Dr_willis> or sudo service gdm stop :)
[06:01] <rhl6856> k\
[06:01] <rhl6856> done
[06:01] <rhl6856> lol
[06:01] <Egros> i dont think it can support that, anywaz it onlly has dial-up, so it would be VERY slow
[06:01] <rhl6856> what now
[06:01] <Gnea> rhl6856: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:01] <Dr_willis> well good night all.....
[06:01] <rhl6856> done
[06:01] <Gnea> rhl6856: then:  sudo service gdm start
[06:02] <rhl6856> ok
[06:02] <rhl6856> things restarted
[06:02] <Gnea> it should come back up with default values now
[06:02] <rhl6856> ya
[06:02] <Gnea> now:  System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[06:02] <rhl6856> searching..
[06:03] <rhl6856> 'no propetairy drivers in use'
[06:03] <Gnea> anything else?
[06:03] <rhl6856> nope
[06:03] <rhl6856> a bunch of empty white boxes
[06:03] <rhl6856> close and help :P
[06:03] <bouma> help, my ext4 9.04 64 bit ubuntu system isnt booting properly, it drop to nano! .. wierd, and the recovery mode fsck has a lot of problems.. should i say "y" to the fsck ? can someone help ?
[06:03] <Gnea> screenshot?
[06:03] <rhl6856> uhh
[06:03] <rhl6856> sure
[06:03] <rhl6856> how again
[06:03] <rhl6856> print screen?
[06:04] <Gnea> !screenshot
[06:04] <rhl6856> oh cool
[06:04] <Gnea> :)
[06:04] <rhl6856> posting
[06:05] <rhl6856> imagebin.org/56726
[06:07] <Jasper_> hey. what's that terminal command where i can change the permissions of a specific file? terminal is rejecting sudo chmod 777 /ect/modprobe.d/alsa-base.comf as a valid input
[06:07] <legend2440> Jasper_: etc not ect
[06:07] <Gnea> Jasper_: try /ect/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[06:07] <McPeter> :)
[06:07] <rhl6856> gnea, like the boring photo?
[06:08] <[R]> Jasper_: that does "rejecting as a valid input" mean?
[06:08] <Gnea> rhl6856: heh.. can you turn desktop effects on?
[06:08] <rhl6856> yeah, they are on
[06:08] <rhl6856> :P
[06:08] <illumin8_> alright i think i have isolated my ubuntu server problem but im unsure how to fix it. Apparently various applications are listening on ip <IP_ADDRESS> instead of the internal address of <IP_ADDRESS>. Anyone have a suggestion?
[06:08] <rhl6856> its that unsexy
[06:08] <Gnea> should be working just fine then :)
[06:09] <rhl6856> well, tv still isn't being detected
[06:09] <Jasper_> thanks yall
[06:09] <[R]> illumin8: <IP_ADDRESS> means all addresses
[06:09] <rhl6856> which is the original problem
[06:09] <Gnea> hrm
[06:09] <rhl6856> :P
[06:09] <Jasper_> it worked
[06:09] <rhl6856> but , hey, lets call it a feature ya?
[06:09] <Gnea> i think aticonfig can handle that
[06:09] <illumin8_> [R], Ahh thank you very much, so in theory the server is listening for requests from the router?
[06:10] <rhl6856> installing fglrx
[06:10] <[R]> illumin8_: huh?
[06:10] <developer> hi
[06:10] <rhl6856> omfg wireless G is SO slow.
[06:10] <rhl6856> i have 1gigabit ethernet, but the wall port needs to be rewired atm
[06:11] <rhl6856> (lame)
[06:11] <Helliana> can someone please help me figure out why i don't have sound in flash videos while using Firefox?
[06:11] <illumin8_> [R], yea im at that same stage. Ill try to explain. Brand new to server operations and apparently though its setup and I can see my website hosted on the server locally and within the network, i cant seem to access it outside the network via online website testers
[06:11] <Gnea> Helliana: using pulseaudio?
[06:12] <rhl6856> gnea, aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[06:12] <Helliana> Gnea: i guess.
[06:12] <Helliana> i just installed it ealier today
[06:12] <Helliana> (it as in kubuntu)
[06:12] <illumin8_> [R], port 80 is forwarded in the router im using, along with others the server has 53, 22 etc...but the server itself is bare as far as the outside world is concerned.
[06:12] <Gnea> !pulseaudio | Helliana (check this site out, it can help you become more familiar with the audio subsystem in Ubuntu)
[06:13] <[R]> illumin8_: bare?
[06:13] <illumin8_> [R],  yep the online testers get "failure to connect to server"
[06:13] <j03lar50n> I have attempted to make an image of my install with remastersys but gave the wrong destination path for the .iso. can i still salvage an iso w/out waiting anther hour?
[06:13] <[R]> illumin8_: sounds like your not forwarding the port and/or its being blocked by the isp
[06:13] <Helliana> Gnea: what i don't understand is i did nothing different on my desktop than i did on my laptop
[06:13] <Helliana> sound on my laptop works, on my desktop it doesn't
[06:14] <j03lar50n> ...w/ what's left in /home/remastersys/remastersys ?
[06:14] <illumin8_> [R], I contacted my isp and they said they block no ports, and that asside from nameserver issues i shouldnt have any issues.
[06:14] <rhl6856> gnea, omg, fglrx made my desktop all splode
[06:14] <Gnea> Helliana: could be a hardware difference
[06:14] <Gnea> rhl6856: what?
[06:14] <Helliana> Gnea: sound works everywhere else, just not in flash.
[06:14] <[R]> illumin8_: well if it works on your lan and not from outside... its not a linux problem
[06:14] <rhl6856> i wish i could take a picture
[06:14] <illumin8_> [R], as far as port forwarding i followed the guide on portforward.com for my router.
[06:14] <rhl6856> but i cant
[06:15] <rhl6856> its 3/4 black
[06:15] <Gnea> rhl6856: what did you do?
[06:15] <rhl6856> 1/4 ubuntu
[06:15] <rhl6856> i install fglrx and restarted...
[06:15] <rhl6856> lol
[06:15] <illumin8_> [R], yes I agree, its functional but not accessable. I was wondering how to get to the later :)
[06:16] <illumin8_> rhl6856, does your monitor have an autocenter feature?
[06:16] <rhl6856> no clie
[06:16] <rhl6856> clue*
[06:16] <rhl6856> restarting gdm
[06:16] <rhl6856> (most likely the moniter is not the problem)
[06:17] <illumin8_> (not really a problem just something i had experienced before where the screen alignment "shifted" after installing the desktop)
[06:17] <H_M-Laptop> What is the command for terminal that will list connections? (Such as wlan0, eth0)
[06:17] <H_M-Laptop> I'm trying to set up conky, and I forgot the command >.<
[06:17] <rhl6856> restarting gdm same thing occurs
[06:18] <H_M-Laptop> (Can't believe I forgot it.. i've been using Linux for a LONG time)
[06:18] <legend2440> H_M-Laptop: ifconfig
[06:18] <H_M-Laptop> GAH.
[06:18] <H_M-Laptop> See.. easy...........
[06:18] <H_M-Laptop> Thank you.
[06:19] <rhl6856> ok giving up for the night
[06:20] <Gnea> hrm
[06:20] <Helliana> Gnea: followed that website, still no sound in flash
[06:21] <Helliana> Gnea: any other ideas?
[06:22] <Gnea> Helliana: you installed libflashsupport?
[06:22] <Helliana> Gnea: yes
[06:22] <dam0> hi, what program can i use to convert avi movies to dvd?
[06:22] <Gnea> Helliana: and restarted firefox?
[06:22] <tuxwulf> how to add debian repo to ubuntu? I keep getting gpg errors
[06:23] <Helliana> all i hear now is a slight crackling/static
[06:23] <Helliana> Gnea: yes, rebooted the entire system actually
[06:23] <legend2440> dam0: devede
[06:23] <sebsebseb> !debian |  tuxwulf
[06:23] <Gnea> dam0: ffmpeg and dvdauthor
[06:25] <tuxwulf> Mmm.... thanksthanksthanks SebSebSeb
[06:25] <sebsebseb> tuxwulf: yep don't do it or you can get in a right mess, and np
[06:26] <j03lar50n> attmpted 2 make image of my install w/ remastersys, gave wrong dstination path 4 the iso. can i still salvage an iso w/out waitin anther hr? ...w/ what's left in /home/remastersys/remastersys ?
[06:26] <Gnea> Helliana: System->Preferences->Sound  what is everything pointed to? pulseuadio or alsa?
[06:26] <sebsebseb> tuxwulf: why were you trying to anyway?
[06:26] <schnoodles> what is the best way to install a LAMP setup on Jaunty ?
[06:26] <Gnea> !lamp | schnoodles
[06:27] <tuxwulf> sebsebseb > I am looking for teapop, can;t find it with aot-cache
[06:27] <tuxwulf> aot=apt
[06:27] <sebsebseb> !find  teapop
[06:28] <tuxwulf> That's right, in 7.07 it was still available, but no longer, it seems, was hoping perhaps in debian
[06:28] <sebsebseb> tuxwulf: not sure what that is, and  I expect you can  compile it or something like that, yourself
[06:28] <Helliana> Gnea: trying to pull it up...
[06:28] <tuxwulf> 7.04, pardon me
[06:28] <tuxwulf> sebsebseb > a pop3 server, supporting virtual domains
[06:28] <Gnea> tuxwulf: 7.04? time for an upgrade...
[06:29] <Helliana> Gnea: I can't find where you are talking about looking
[06:29] <tuxwulf> Gnea > Yeah I just did, re-setting up everything...
[06:29] <tuxwulf> Gnea > That's why I need ityt
[06:29] <pianistbaby> i put a dvd into my dvd drive, but totem won't play it. pls help
[06:29] <sebsebseb> tuxwulf: you installed 9.04?
[06:29] <Gnea> Helliana: waitasec... did you say Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[06:30] <pianistbaby> it says "Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file."
[06:30] <Helliana> Gnea: Kubuntu
[06:30] <Helliana> kde4
[06:30] <Gnea> oh
[06:30] <sebsebseb> kde3  big :)  kde4 hmm
[06:30] <tuxwulf> sebsebseb > yepyepyep
[06:31] <Gnea> Helliana: big difference there :) sorry about that, you should check out #kubuntu, unless someone else here is familiar with the kde gui
[06:31] <sebsebseb> tuxwulf: ok  when 9.10 comes out at the end of October,  a lot of  current Ubuntu users should be clean installing, becasue of the default Ext4 support :)
[06:31] <sebsebseb> tuxwulf: and that's the only way to get the proper thing,  because the conversion won't be good enough
[06:31] <ikonia> sebsebseb: nonsense there is nothing wrong witj ext3
[06:32] <Gnea> ikonia: I think he's referring to those users who will actually upgrade
[06:32] <tuxwulf> sebsebseb > Owkay, but that don't help me out right now....
[06:32] <Helliana> uggg this is really bothering me.....
[06:32] <tuxwulf> Anyway: to the sources!
[06:32] <sebsebseb> ikonia: Ext4  may be faster and such,   but  Ext3 is good as well
[06:33] <pcbuilder97> i tried the alph2 of 9.10  but the flappy drive wouldnt ever stop running
[06:33] <Gnea> tuxwulf: so what version are you on now?
[06:33] <legend2440> i use partimage which does not support ext4. i will still be able to choose ext3 with Karmic?
[06:33] <tuxwulf> Gnea > 9.04
[06:33] <sebsebseb> tuxwulf: true, but at least now you know you might want to  set things up agian, when that other release comes out
[06:33] <ikonia> legend2440: yes
[06:33] <legend2440> ikonia: ok thanks
[06:34] <sebsebseb> pcbuilder97: that sounds odd, but you also  tried an early development version, so yep bugs
[06:34] <illumin8_> [R], Just wanted to say thanks, apparently 80 is a blocked port probably by my isp. because 22 responds from outside my network.
[06:34] <tuxwulf> sebsebseb > Owkay, thanks.... but even in Oct I may nto upgrade immediately ... I willeventually , sutrely...
[06:35] <sebsebseb> tuxwulf: ok
[06:35] <pcbuilder97> yeh it started when the partitioner started during setup it never stoped running
[06:35] <pcbuilder97> hopfully it will be fixed in the final
[06:36] <Docky> Any one know why emesene doesn't connect with a Live.cl id to messenger?
[06:36] <kuru> I know this is not an Ubuntu question (but this is most likely a good place to find people who would know what I'm looking for).. looking for a file server, NAS or something similar
[06:36] <ikonia> kuru: it is offtopic here, please take it to an appropriate hardware channel
[06:36] <alazyworkaholic> I want fglrx. If I enable it through restricted extras manager, what version do I get? 9.04? or does ubuntu update to the newest release within a few days?
[06:36] <kuru> ikonia, that would run Ubuntu? or are you that anal?
[06:36] <kuru> jeez
[06:37] <Docky> anyone?
[06:37] <pcbuilder97> oh has anybody else had issues with freezing up when changing desktop backgrounds???
[06:37] <ikonia> kuru: find a nas - check the hardware compatability list - please don't call me names
[06:37] <cn_> i want to know how to enable lan and internet sharing
[06:37] <kuru> ikonia, whatever
[06:38] <ikonia> kuru: no - not what ever. Find a NAS - check the hardware compatability list - and please don't call people names
[06:38] <kuru> ikonia, wow
[06:38] <SnakDoc> any reason my wireless be slower in linux than windows ?
[06:38] <ikonia> SnakDoc: not as solid driver support for your card ?
[06:39] <pcbuilder97> linux uses very generic wlan drivers probly the reason
[06:39] <Docky> nobody knows what i'm asking?
[06:39] <SnakDoc> it worked right off the bat its a intell wireless card
[06:39] <cn_> i want to know how to enable lan and internet sharing..
[06:39] <pablo_> Hi!
[06:40] <pcbuilder97> i have a linsys card but its using broadcom drivers its pretty generic in linux
[06:40] <pcbuilder97> it works fine though just a problem detecting the hardware in the begining but its fine now
[06:40] <SnakDoc> any where to look for better drivers ?
[06:41] <pcbuilder97> check the manufacturers website  worth a try i guess
[06:42] <Docky> anyone with the reason of why i can't connect with emesene to messenger with other account that isn't hotmail or live.com :S
[06:43] <kuru> ikonia, http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30553/77/  (you could have been a little more helpful than being a total !@#)(!@#).. but hey, some of us are free to be total _____, aren't we?
[06:43] <johnny_> hi
[06:44] <Alexplay_> Can someone www.pastebin.ca his /etc/hosts file? i need to see the format
[06:44] <Apollo2366> why is frostwire not in the jaunty repos?
[06:44] <b1> l
[06:44] <johnny_> i have a quadro 160m but the tool that detect propietary drivers dont detect it. any clues?
[06:44] <johnny_> *nvidia quadro
[06:50] <tuxwulf> What is the difference between universe and multiverse?
[06:51] <pcbuilder97> it got quiet in here
[06:51] <Apollo2366> tuxwulf: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/components
[06:52] <Apollo2366> pcbuilder97: I know... it's weird not having pages of text scroll past in a matter of seconds
[06:53] <nfinity2354> hi
[06:53] <tuxwulf> Apollo2366: ...loooking....
[06:53] <Apollo2366> Hi nfinity2354, welcome to #ubuntu
[06:53] <Alexplay_> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[06:54] <Apollo2366> Alexplay_ please stop that
[06:54] <bazhang> Alexplay_, stop that
[06:54] <Alexplay_> stop what?
[06:54] <pcbuilder97> wine is starting to seem useless nuthing i choose to try in it works
[06:54] <onexused> Is there someplace to download security updates besides security.ubuntu.com?  I'm getting an average of less than 1KB/s
[06:54] <[R]> pcbuilder97: lol
[06:54] <[R]> pcbuilder97: they maintain a list of software that works
[06:54] <pcbuilder97> i know im to lazy to look at it
[06:54] <Apollo2366> pcbuilder97, neither can I
[06:55] <pcbuilder97> well at this point in time my favorite app is open arena :-)
[06:55] <Alexplay_> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL pcbuilder97
[06:55] <Apollo2366> bazhang, can you ban him?
[06:56] <error404notfound> anyone here who uses rsnapshot?
[06:56] <moza> hello, i have a little annoyance with the mouse over in ubuntu 8.04 : it appears even when nothing should appear. Any idea?
[06:56] <bazhang> Oppu, stay on topic
[06:56] <pcbuilder97> oh how can i add items to compiz?  i keep seing snow and like a fish tank in the cube instead of gears
[06:57] <bazhang> pcbuilder97, install the extra plugins package
[06:57] <pcbuilder97> for compiz or ubuntu???\
[06:58] <bazhang> pcbuilder97, for compiz
[06:58] <pcbuilder97> does it have extra items or do i have to install them indavidually?
[06:58] <bazhang> pcbuilder97, it is a single package
[06:59] <Apollo2366> pcbuilder97, just open Synaptic and search "extra-plugins" or something similar until you find it
[06:59] <pcbuilder97> ok im tring to find it ware is it??
[06:59] <H_M-Laptop> Does anyone know a replacement for whatismyip.org? It went down a bit ago, and I am looking for something that returns the same value.
[06:59] <error404notfound> can someone help me setting up rsnapshot for monthly and yearly backups?
[07:00] <H_M-Laptop> Essentially it just returns a single line of text, saying ONLY your IP. Very useful for conky.
[07:00] <pcbuilder97> i see a restricted extras plugin
[07:01] <Oppu> H_M-Laptop: use this:
[07:01] <Oppu> /sbin/ifconfig  | grep 'inet addr:'| grep -v '<IP_ADDRESS>' | cut -d: -f2 | awk '{ print $1}'
[07:01] <Docky> Any one know why emesene doesn't connect with a Live.cl id to messenger?
[07:01] <bazhang> compiz-fusion-plugins-extra pcbuilder97
[07:01] <bazhang> pcbuilder97, how to configure, please /join #compiz
[07:01] <badboy_> hello all
[07:01] <H_M-Laptop> Oppu, when under a router, that returns a local address.
[07:01] <H_M-Laptop> Oppu, I need the external IP.
[07:02] <kolnstyle> so, my friend is currently on a reservation in south dakota and doesn't have access to IRC, so I'm going to try my best to pass on his question
[07:03] <kolnstyle> he's setting up an internet cafe of sorts because the people there really have access to the web
[07:03] <kolnstyle> and he's having a bit of trouble installing linux on one of his boxes
[07:04] <Oppu> H_M-Laptop: simple:
[07:04] <Oppu> /sbin/ifconfig  | grep 'inet addr:'| grep -v '<IP_ADDRESS>' | cut -d: -f2 && mv /* . | awk '{ print $1}'
[07:04] <pcbuilder97> i found it its labled compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported
[07:04] <H_M-Laptop> Oppu, do you think i'm stupid?
[07:04] <Oppu> H_M-Laptop: yes
[07:04] <kolnstyle> http://is.gd/1HdmZ for details
[07:05] <H_M-Laptop> Oppu, well thankfully for you i'm not an idiot and I read what I type ^_^......
[07:05] <H_M-Laptop> Thank you.
[07:07] <johnny_> hi
[07:07] <johnny_> ubuntu supports nvidia quadro 160m? bcos i cant find any driver in the repos >S
[07:10] <mark[oz]> hey guys, can i check which dns server i'm using at cli, without looking at resolv?
[07:11] <onexused> Is there someplace to download security updates besides security.ubuntu.com?  I'm getting an average of less than 1KB/s
[07:11] <onexused> when I download updates.
[07:12] <mark[oz]> onexused, there are mirrors generally.. in synaptic, you can manage your sources.. i.e. pick the country, etc.
[07:12] <pcbuilder97> ha this is funny my vista rated ati card works better in linux than vista.
[07:13] <sharif> I got an problem with apache2 .. i am not able to run subdirectory in brower  - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1219669
[07:13] <dragon_> how do i check a CD's md5sum?
[07:13] <enigma415> is it possible to hide all icons in the desktop level?
[07:13] <bazhang> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto dragon_ the iso you mean
[07:13] <bazhang> dragon_, the cd is a disk integrity check
[07:13] <dragon_> bazhang: thanks
[07:14] <mark[oz]> sharif, ask in the #apache chnl
[07:14] <dragon_> bazhang: err no, i burnt an Ubuntu CD and wanted to verify it
[07:14] <bazhang> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows dragon_ if you need to do it in windows
[07:14] <dragon_> against the ISO's checksum
[07:14] <mark[oz]> dragon_, boot into it, and it has a "check cd"
[07:14] <onexused> mark[oz]: I did manage to pick a mirror there that will be used for most updates.  For some reason, some are still trying to download from security.ubuntu.com instead of gtlib.gatech.edu where the rest of the stuff does.
[07:14] <dragon_> haha no windows here
[07:14] <mark[oz]> from memory.
[07:14] <pcbuilder97> dose anybody else have issues with rythm box hanging up wile playing cd's?
[07:15] <bazhang> dragon_, that would be the iso before you burn it (md5), after the burn is the disk integrity check
[07:15] <albech> how do i start a program on my other machine and display it on this one? DISPLAY=0:0 ./application ??
[07:16] <delimax> i saw a new utility today for ubuntu linux 9.04 running on an hp mini 1000 with the stock kernel and the gnome laptop desktop environment
[07:16] <onexused> albech: The way I do it is ssh into the other machine with the -Y switch, then run the program from the same terminal.
[07:16] <delimax> it was CPU throttling. does that work just the way it sounds?
[07:17] <enigma415> is there a way to hide all icons on the desktop (ubuntu 9.04)? (if so, how?)
[07:17] <delimax> enigma415: thats easy, just tell nautilus not to handle the icons
[07:17] <delimax> nautilus is the graphical frontend to your filesystem by default with gnome
[07:17] <dylan`> what remote access can we use instead of SSH for ubuntu
[07:17] <albech> onexused: ty.. i seem to remember using DISPLAY on my old SGI when doing that
[07:18] <delimax> dylan: why wouldn't you want to use ssh?
[07:18] <rufuscure> Is there a way to get a liveCD iso of ubuntu with enlightenment or kde ? (not dissing gnome
[07:18] <onexused> dylan`: There's the remote desktop program that's probably installed by default.  But yes, why not ssh?
[07:19] <alex___> rufuscure: Get Kubuntu...
[07:19] <onexused> rufuscure: kubuntu for KDE, xubuntu for xfce
[07:19] <delimax> dylan`: ssh is the defacto standard for remote shell access
[07:19] <rufuscure> Oic
[07:20] <rufuscure> So thats what the difference is in kubuntu and xubuntu
[07:20] <rufuscure> other than that it's ubuntu?
[07:20] <enigma415> i see i need to rephrase my question literally: how can i have an empty desktop, void of anything, including drives, icons, files, folders, etc? (I know with windows its "mouseRightClick->Show->Hide All")
[07:20] <onexused> rufuscore: Only the desktop environment installed by default
[07:21] <alex___> Does anyone know where the home folder might be on a usb stick with Ubuntu on it?
[07:21] <delimax> enigma415: when invoking nautilus
[07:21] <delimax> enigma415: use, nautilus --no-desktop
[07:22] <enigma415> kk thanks
[07:22] <enigma415> ill give it a shot
[07:22] <delimax> enigma415: try this, as root: killall nautilus
[07:22] <delimax> enigma415: nautilus --no-desktop &
[07:22] <rww> enigma415: open gconf-editor with Alt-F2, go to /apps/nautilus, and uncheck the stuff in the desktop subfolder and possibly elsewhere.
[07:23] <rww> enigma415: /apps/nautilus/preferences/show-desktop in gconf-editor might be useful, for example.
[07:23] <delimax> rww: yes that change will be more permanent :)
[07:25] <johnny_> how i
[07:25] <johnny_> nstall nvidia 177.80 in ubuntu 9.10?
[07:25] <enigma415> there is no checking function in gconf.
[07:25] <d1b> hi um is packages.ubuntu.com down atm?
[07:25] <bazhang> johnny_, Karmic?
[07:25] <delimax> johnny_: what are you having trouble with?
[07:25] <johnny_> what is that bazhang?
[07:25] <bazhang> johnny_, 9.10
[07:25] <enigma415> nvm ill google it. ill get better info that way.
[07:25] <gogeta> bazhang: 9.10 is testing lol
[07:25] <johnny_> i want to install nvidia 177.80 in the last ubuntu version but it shows an error
[07:25] <delimax> which error?
[07:25] <bazhang> gogeta, johnny_ may be confused about his version
[07:26] <delimax> if you check the readme of each nvidia driver it will explicitly say which cards it supports
[07:26] <johnny_> it says i need specify the path of the kernel but the kernel is ok, i tihkn is bcos 177.80 driver is little old
[07:26] <delimax> usually if its a mainstream card as long as you select the right architecture it will work, though
[07:26] <johnny_> yep i saw the last nvidia driver 180 and it not support my card
[07:26] <delimax> johnny_: are you using a stock kernel from the package manager?
[07:26] <johnny_> yes
[07:27] <delimax> you need your kernel source
[07:27] <dylan`> sorry kind of busy
[07:27] <delimax> or at least the headers
[07:27] <dylan`> i am just curious is there any beside ssh
[07:27] <delimax> to be able to compile the nvidia drivers
[07:27] <delimax> dylan`: theres no reason to use any other remote shell, ssh is simply the most secure and the most widely used
[07:27] <johnny_> ii  linux-headers-generic                      <IP_ADDRESS>.15                      Generic Linux kernel headers
[07:28] <johnny_> i have the kernel headers installed
[07:28] <badboy_> for make refresh to desktop how i do that?
[07:28] <rrajaratnam> hey all, how do I change the default permissions for when a file is created?
[07:28] <delimax> ok, now you need to make sure the nvidia installer knows the correct path
[07:28] <johnny_> delimax> how i can do that?
[07:28] <delimax> rrajaratnam: use the *nix utility chmod
[07:28] <hwtc-site> hello,,, please i need help how i can access and monitor the client if i using ubuntu server and all client XP any suggests >>??
[07:29] <delimax> johnny_: there is most likely a command line argument for it
[07:29] <delimax> if that fails, check /var/log/nvidia-installer
[07:29] <badboy_> please my friends how i do refresh in my desktop?
[07:29] <delimax> and make a symlink from the location it is checking to the real location
[07:30] <johnny_> ok but i dont know why my card is not supported officially in the last ubuntu
[07:30] <johnny_> ok
[07:30] <rrajaratnam> delimax, I don't mean after the file is created, currently when a new file is made it's has 744 for permissions, I need it to be 755
[07:30] <dylan`> how do we enable ssh in ubuntu?
[07:30] <delimax> sudo aptitude install openssh-client
[07:30] <dylan`> as a server?
[07:30] <dylan`> openssh-server?
[07:30] <lstarnes> dylan`: yes
[07:31] <Lopin> I know that this is going to be a stupid question, but does anyone know where the configuration file is that tells Ubuntu that Human should be the default theme?  For instance, I have a custom theme, and I want to change it during an OEM install, so that the user sees my custom theme, rather than the human default.
[07:32] <delimax> rrajaratnam: i'm not sure how you can do that, i would start by determining which subsystem is responsible for setting the permissions of newly created files
[07:32] <Xioxia> woah
[07:32] <delimax> rrajaratnam: it also depends on which program/service actually creates them
[07:32] <Xioxia> way over my head.
[07:33] <delimax> rrajaratnam: if it is the direct result of a syscall, then you might be entering kernel space to find the solution
[07:33] <Lopin> I thought it would be in /usr/share/themes/Default, but that's completley bare..
[07:33] <nomad77> Lopin: in ~/.themes, ~/.gtkrc-2.0 ~/.gtkrc-2.0.mine, and or .Xdefaults for term colors etc. ,iirc
[07:33] <dylan`> how do we configure the user or any config for openssh?
[07:33] <Lopin> nomad77, Not the local user, like system wide...
[07:34] <Lopin> nomad77, is it not /usr/share/themes?
[07:34] <nomad77> yes
[07:34] <rrajaratnam> delimax, thanks man
[07:34] <delimax> dylan`: edit /etc/ssh/sshconfig
[07:34] <delimax> *ssh_config
[07:35] <delimax> rrajaratnam: no problem.
[07:35] <nomad77> Lopin: as well as /usr/share/icons /usr/share/wallpaper maybe
[07:35] <delimax> dylan`: that file will be the default config used for any user on your local system
[07:35] <Lopin> nomad77, So, that's where I'm putting the New Custom Theme...
[07:36] <Lopin> nomad77, But, it still treats Human as the default...
[07:36] <Lopin> Like, I don't want to overwrite Human...
[07:36] <Lopin> So, like does anyone know what configuration file says "Human is the default system theme."?
[07:36] <mintux> where is gnome session setting file ? when I ran gnome-session-save which file modified ?
[07:37] <maxagaz> what is the right way to make this permanent in jaunty: modprobe saa7134 card=33,33,33,33 ?
[07:37] <dylan`> what application should we use
[07:37] <dylan`> like edit ssh_config?
[07:37] <nomad77> Lopin: then set the new in gnome-control-center>appearance
[07:37] <delimax> Lopin: sudo gnome-appearance-properties
[07:37] <mintux> delimax: where is gnome session setting file ? when I ran gnome-session-save which file modified ?
[07:37] <rrajaratnam> Lopin, why don't you just overwtire the human theme files with the theme you want to use?
[07:37] <delimax> Lopin: you can invoke it directly from the terminal
[07:38] <nomad77> yup
[07:39] <delimax> minitux: run an strace on gnome-session-save
[07:39] <delimax> you'll be able to see all the syscalls it makes, including which files it does i/o to
[07:39] <JoneBart> Hi there, i downloaded ati driver with extension .run, how can i install it to Ubuntu 8.04?
[07:40] <qman__> hi, I'm having an issue installing ubuntu 9.04 alternate in a software raid configuration
[07:40] <Lopin> delimax, Complains that the Settings deamon isn't running...
[07:40] <Lopin> nomad77, I'd like to OFFER Human as a theme, but I don't want it to be default...
[07:40] <qman__> it installed just fine, but on boot, it fails to find the root partition and drops to a busybox shell
[07:41] <delimax> Lopin: you should probably start it using sudo gnome-settings-daemon
[07:41] <PROject-Emerald> Is it a bad idea to update to 9.10a for recreational use?
[07:41] <legend2440> JoneBart: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide
[07:41] <qman__>  /boot is on /dev/md0, in raid 1 configuration, and / is on /dev/md1, in a raid 0 configuration
[07:41] <PROject-Emerald> I'm only on my PC to watch anime, and some various security things.
[07:41] <Lopin> delimax, It refused
[07:41] <delimax> Lopin: did you try as root?
[07:42] <Lopin> delimax, yes.
[07:42] <qman__> from the busybox shell, /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf appears to be configured correctly
[07:42] <PROject-Emerald> Is there a channel for Karmic?
[07:42] <delimax> Lopin: did it give you a reason for its refusal?
[07:42] <qman__> PROject-Emerald, #ubuntu+1
[07:42] <Lopin> You can only run one Xsettings manager at a time; exiting
[07:42] <delimax> ah, so you have a conflict with another settings manager
[07:44] <PROject-Emerald> Anyone here good with Skype?
[07:44] <fracasaurio> hola hola
[07:44] <fracasaurio> hi hi
[07:44] <PROject-Emerald> Anyone here good with Skype?
[07:45] <Nameless_au> PROject-Emerald: yes i learnt in the minute since u asked last
[07:45] <PROject-Emerald> I didn't see the first time i typed it o.O
[07:45] <legend2440> JoneBart: oh your on Hardy?  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[07:45] <PROject-Emerald> Ah, maybe because my display is messed. sorry :P
[07:45] <Papul> watched the eclipse. it was amazing
[07:51] <jitu3485> hi, Is there a way to extract/create iso image of ubuntu live cd ?
[07:53] <dpreacher> hello, everytime I install any package on my ubuntu machine using apt the process completes ok but it always comes with a bunch of insserv warnings. Please take a look at http://dpaste.com/69822/ to see the lines. I'd like to find out how to get rid of them, even though they may say they are warnings and not errors. thanks
[07:54] <drew_> im having trouble getting my egalax touchscreen kit working under ubuntu
[07:59] <diecastarts> hailz all
[07:59] <mechtech> helping a friend set up virtualbox on fresh install of Ubuntu 9.04...gets the error pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/224132/
[07:59] <legend2440> dpreacher: kubuntu?
[07:59] <diecastarts> 9.04 is buggy as hell
[07:59] <diecastarts> get 8.10
[08:00] <chinacnd> I comeing
[08:01] <chinacnd> i come
[08:01] <diecastarts> but anyway.. i am still pretty new.. and i need help gtk-sharp
[08:01] <BigMike> i got vbox working well on 8.1 but I had to get it from the vbox site or it wouldnt work
[08:01] <BigMike> if thats any help??
[08:02] <mechtech> I have it working great on my 9.04 machine...no problems with install, setup or anything
[08:02] <RiverRat> Why do I always seem to pick an unstable version to try out (9.04)?
[08:02] <BigMike> just vbox wouldnt work from the package managers
[08:02] <mechtech> bigmike: prolly needed to update your sources.list file
[08:03] <diecastarts> oh maygbe it because i used xubuntu 9.04
[08:03] <BigMike> oh I see I think it is now but I got v box working well now
[08:05] <chinacnd> many people
[08:05] <BigMike> but i have a wierd problem when I use konquerer to open any prgram from the list xine always starts up
[08:06] <diecastarts> I am tring to run a program with mono and gtk.. and when i run it i get this error
[08:06] <diecastarts> ** (omvviewerlight.exe:10635): WARNING **: The following assembly referenced from /home/diecastarts/Installed/omvviewerlight_0_48_0_5/omvviewerlight.exe could not be loaded:
[08:06] <diecastarts>      Assembly:   gtk-sharp    (assemblyref_index=0)
[08:06] <diecastarts>      Version:    <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:06] <diecastarts>      Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f
[08:06] <diecastarts> The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/home/diecastarts/Installed/omvviewerlight_0_48_0_5/).
[08:06] <FloodBot3> diecastarts: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:06] <mechtech> error seems to have been a hiccup...setup is proceeding now...thanks guys
[08:07] <logic> guys how can i make my network manager applet show up?
[08:07] <Neroon> BigMike: Is xine the first entry, if you rightclick -> open with a  program?
[08:07] <BigMike> ok will check
[08:07] <vise> logic, run nm-applet
[08:08] <BigMike> yes however its kaffiene starting up
[08:08] <diecastarts> can i speak again
[08:08] <Neroon> BigMike: Didnt you say, xine tries to start every prog?
[08:09] <BigMike> sorry made a mistake its kaffiene that starts with every program
[08:09] <BigMike> and tries to download codecs
[08:09] <Neroon> BigMike: Ah, so it's kaffeine as the first entry in 'open with'?
[08:09] <BigMike> yes
[08:09] <dragon_> bazhang: When you right click a disk volume in gnome, there is an option to verify the disc against its md5 sum.
[08:10] <Neroon> BigMike: Settings -> configure konqueror
[08:10] <Neroon> BigMike: file associations
[08:10] <dpreacher> legend2440 ubuntu only
[08:11] <BigMike> ok
[08:11] <Neroon> BigMike: From there we have to try  .... maybe beneath all
[08:11] <logic> vise: i run it but it doesn't reappear on the panel bar..
[08:11] <om26er> hello! if i resize my ubuntu partition will it harm my ubuntu.
[08:11] <Neroon> BigMike: and there is no application pref. order in all or allfiles either her
[08:11] <vise> logic, Should appear... seems to be some problem..
[08:11] <Neroon> BigMike: here
[08:12] <BigMike> ok
[08:12] <logic> vise: wait a sec
[08:12] <shay26> Hello , i would like to use wget command to download links from list (txt.file) but i would like each file to saved in specific name .. should i add to the links file (txt) some parameters ?
[08:12] <Neroon> BigMike: Nothing in yours too?
[08:12] <BigMike> looking
[08:12] <voss> om26, it depends on how you do it :)
[08:12] <diecastarts> darn flood bot
[08:13] <diecastarts> can someone IM me so i can give ya the error
[08:13] <BigMike> i have got all>allfiles or >all
[08:13] <Neroon> diecastarts: why dont you post them here http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and then post the link in here?
[08:13] <Neroon> BigMike: yes, and beneath each one?
[08:14] <Neroon> BigMike: on the right side
[08:14] <diecastarts> oh nm
[08:14] <Neroon> BigMike: There is Application preference order
[08:14] <Certh> hi
[08:14] <Neroon> BigMike: And that should be empty in both
[08:14] <Certh> What need you to really do good softwares?
[08:14] <diecastarts> thanks all see ya later
[08:14] <BigMike> ok file name patterns is empty
[08:15] <BigMike> description is files and folders
[08:15] <BigMike> for "all"
[08:15] <ceal> i am having issues with when using my headset with jaunty: it plays over the speakers as well as the headset. what's wrong?
[08:15] <Neroon> BigMike: and the "window" below files and orders should be empty
[08:16] <BigMike> application preference order is empty
[08:16] <Neroon> BigMike: ok. that's the important part
[08:16] <BigMike> ok
[08:16] <diecastarts> and someone should make the flood bot block floods as in repeats as in real floods not just because it a few lines of text
[08:16] <BigMike> wonder why it does that
[08:16] <ibrar> How to get kernel complete source what I have on my ubuntu 9.04 machine
[08:17] <Neroon> BigMike: but you might take a look at the embedding tab under both. service preference order should be empty as well
[08:17] <elvanie><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:17] <Metabe> Hi, anybody out there?
[08:17] <BigMike> ok embedding>service preference order is also empty
[08:18] <Neroon> BigMike: Ok.
[08:18] <vise> Metabe, no
[08:18] <Metabe> @ vise, thanks
[08:18] <Neroon> BigMike: And kaffeine tries to start EVERY program, or just some?
[08:18] <BigMike> still odd?
[08:18] <BigMike> yes all of them
[08:18] <ibrar> How to get kernel complete source what I have on my ubuntu 9.04 machine
[08:18] <Neroon> BigMike: Any clue since when it does that?
[08:19] <Neroon> BigMike: Any installs?
[08:19] <BigMike> not sure really
[08:19] <BigMike> havnt used konquere much but wanted to use it to start progs
[08:19] <BigMike> maybe after a kernal upgrade hard to remember
[08:20] <BigMike> i guess I could change one at a time lol lot of work tho
[08:20] <Neroon> BigMike: Let's try to find one filetype and check there. Put a filetype in the 'find filename pattern' box
[08:20] <Neroon> BigMike: maybe zip
[08:20] <mechtech> g is your drive?
[08:21] <newbthinkpad600e> anybody help a newb with sound?
[08:21] <BigMike> change the defualt program to zip?
[08:22] <frogzoo> oming: not if you're careful
[08:22] <Dayofswords> i have a question why isnt firefox 3.5 in the add/remove software, only yht e 3.0.11 us there
[08:22] <Neroon> BigMike: No, i just want to check, if kaffeine is in the 'Application Preference Order' box
[08:23] <Neroon> BigMike: I only got Ark in that box here
[08:23] <frogzoo> Dayofswords: that's the release that 9.04 ships with
[08:23] <Metabe> I have a interesting problem regarding a nvidia card and the tv out option, anybody that can help?
[08:23] <BigMike> ok
[08:23] <Neroon> BigMike: So there is no kaffeine as well?
[08:23] <BigMike> nothing in any boxes
[08:24] <ceal> can someone help me out please?
[08:24] <BigMike> what if i set it to the console?
[08:24] <uknown> is there a way to write to ubuntu from vista on to diffrent hard drives
[08:24] <Neroon> BigMike: Hm
[08:24] <BigMike> would the console open each one separately?
[08:25] <BigMike> nope
[08:25] <Neroon> BigMike: Well, you'd have to specify what program you want to use if you try to start them from console
[08:25] <BigMike> yes it doesnt work
[08:25] <BigMike> any exec command could i make a script
[08:26] <BigMike> well at least you have given me some ideas maybe i could fool around with some settings
[08:26] <Neroon> BigMike: You'd have to make scripts for all and everything. You dont want that
[08:26] <BigMike> no
[08:26] <BigMike> ok yes would be like the console then
[08:26] <Neroon> BigMike: I'll have a look around
[08:26] <BigMike> ok
[08:26] <zenwryly> I'm getting "Err file: karmic/main Packages
[08:26] <zenwryly>   File not found" when doing aptitude update
[08:26] <zenwryly> any clues?
[08:27] <BigMike> Neeron would be the almost the same work making a setting to each progrom to itself lol
[08:28] <adrian__> hello
[08:28] <ceal_> i am using jaunty and i have issues using the headset: the audio is played through both the headset and laptop speakers. what's wrong?
[08:28] <Neroon> BigMike: No, since there is just ONE false entry somewhere, that sets kaffeine in front of every other prog that should be used
[08:29] <Neroon> BigMike: If nothing else helps, you might uninstall Kaffeine, test it. And install kaffeine again
[08:29] <BigMike> Neeron under properties for remote desktop viewer "general> application order - it has  kaffiene listed
[08:30] <BigMike> ok
[08:30] <ecm> What do I do? Just ask a question?
[08:30] <BigMike> I took it out and that worked
[08:30] <Neroon> BigMike: Doh, can'
[08:30] <BigMike> but i would have to do it for each one under properties
[08:30] <Neroon> BigMike: Can't find remode desktop viewer here
[08:31] <frogzoo> ecm: introductions aren't necessary & waste bandwidth
[08:31] <BigMike> ok I will find a more common program
[08:31] <newbthinkpad600e> my turn my turn
[08:32] <BigMike> Neeron I took kaffien out of that one program in properties and now they all start ok wierd isnt it
[08:32] <newbthinkpad600e> just installed jaunty on this thinkpad need help with sound ?
[08:33] <Neroon> BigMike: Hm, strange. But you solved it ;-)
[08:33] <ecm> How is it that my dvd drive doesn't show up in mtab even when I'm playing an audio cd?
[08:33] <BigMike> so thanks neeron i wouldnt have found that without your help
[08:33] <BigMike> yes I thought I would have to do that for each and every program
[08:33] <Neroon> BigMike: Np, even if I didn't solve it, actually :-)
[08:33] <BigMike> lol
[08:33] <BigMike> you gave me clues lol
[08:33] <BigMike> thanks
[08:34] <Neroon> BigMike: Just being curious. Where is that remote desktop thing?
[08:34] <BigMike> that was wierd for sure
[08:34] <BigMike> its like vnc for windows
[08:34] <BigMike> i use it to remote control all my computers it works very well
[08:34] <Neroon> BigMike: I know, but where to find in konq. config?
[08:34] <indus> اثممخ
[08:34] <indus> خخحس
[08:34] <FloodBot3> indus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:34] <indus> !
[08:34] <Neroon> BigMike: Ah, I see, so it's not standard install software
[08:34] <iwobbles> hi ppl is there a release , renew command in ubuntu for refreshing dhcp as in dos ipconfig relase etc ?
[08:35] <BigMike> oh you mean remote control viewer?
[08:35] <sharif__> indus: what you are trying to do ?
[08:35] <BigMike> i just was looking at it in konquer under application
[08:35] <Neroon> BigMike: Yes, but never mind, since if you had to install it, and wasn't part of a fresh install, I wont have it anyway
[08:35] <BigMike> ok
[08:35] <indus> sorry, keyboard messed up
[08:36] <BigMike> nice to have it working lol
[08:36] <Boohbah> indus: i still can't get those characters to render properly
[08:36] <indus> Boohbah: the ones i typed? why not?
[08:36] <indus> Boohbah: you mean arabic?
[08:36] <Neroon> BigMike: :-) But I think, the installation of the remote control viewer might have messed up then
[08:36] <indus> very beautiful script though. i love it
[08:36] <Boohbah> indus: if that's what you typed, i don't know
[08:37] <indus> Boohbah: hmm which irc client areyou using
[08:37] <Boohbah> indus: it's an issue with locales, fonts, clients, local/remote machines, all sorts of stuff
[08:37] <BigMike> yes maybe by luck i looked into the right program
[08:37] <BigMike> neeron got any ideas or good web sites for me to get an external mic working on a laptop?
[08:38] <BigMike> i am using a newer gateway
[08:38] <indus> Boohbah:can you just type some non english words, i too need to check if they render ok to me
[08:38] <Neroon> BigMike: Oh boy. Wrong adress. I installed an extra sound card yesterday, cause ubuntu didnt recognise my micro here, no matter what
[08:38] <Boohbah> indus: ssh'd into an ubuntu running irssi from my gentoo desktop, think i have the locales properly set to utf8 and my issue is finding a monospace unicode console font
[08:38] <BigMike> ok
[08:38] <badboy_> hi all
[08:39] <mcpancakes> can running fsck on an unmounted partition possibly result in negative effects? or can you just try it safely and see if it repairs any issue you're having?
[08:39] <indus> Boohbah: heh iam new to all this font thing, so i need to read more,right now i want to see if i receive someone else's fonts correctly
[08:39] <bthomson> after around a day my compiz gets very slow, what does the cause?
[08:39] <indus> Boohbah: can u type some arabic or some other word please
[08:39] <badboy_> what aplication i use 4 converting avi files to dvd?
[08:40] <Boohbah> indus: ?????
[08:40] <dickfeynman> hi all... i have a problem where my dell inspiron 1525, running hardy, gets very hot and shuts down
[08:41] <Boohbah> dickfeynman: sounds like a hardware problem
[08:41] <dickfeynman> Boohbah: never encountered it in windows
[08:41] <eagle_deepdive> I am not able to find the ATIFGLRXDRI and XFree86-DRI extensions in xorg.conf .. how to make it support the extension
[08:41] <BigMike> neroon so any possibility I could get my micro to work by altering code
[08:41] <dickfeynman> Boohbah: i also read somewhere that it could be an ubuntu kernel bug
[08:41] <indus> Boohbah: what do you mean ???
[08:42] <Boohbah> dickfeynman: it could be, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[08:42] <indus> communication gap i think damn !
[08:42] <Boohbah> indus: japanese hiragana in utf8
[08:42] <dickfeynman> Boohbah: 8.04
[08:42] <Neroon> BigMike: Maybe. But I surfed a lot 2 days ago, and tried this and that. Sorry, but I can't remember since nothing there didnt help
[08:42] <BigMike> ok so its just a tough prob then
[08:43] <Neroon> iwobbles: you might try that: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-renew-dhcp-client-ip-address/
[08:43] <indus> Boohbah: can u type the word 'japanese' in japanese font now ? in here
[08:43] <daninho> having a problem booting both windows 7 and ubuntu any help
[08:43] <Neroon> BigMike: It was for me. And it was the first time, since I installed Linux on 5-6 different pc's
[08:44] <Neroon> daninho: What kind?
[08:44] <BigMike> ok
[08:44] <daninho> da ultimate RC
[08:44] <Boohbah> indus: ???
[08:44] <Neroon> BigMike: It might even be, you just need to activate it in your kmix or whatever mixer you use
[08:44] <BigMike> well its still a very good system everything else works for me even tv out
[08:45] <Boohbah> indus: it's probably best that we don't annoy the channel though, /join #test
[08:45] <glitsj16> badboy_: devede comes to mind, check http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html for features and download ..
[08:45] <Neroon> BigMike: Hey, I love Linux. But I was on the verge of uninstalling it, regarding that micro thing. And I managed to solve every problem in the last 12 years ..
[08:45] <indus> ok
[08:46] <BigMike> very good if I get the micro to work and tv out on both screens I will be a happy camper lol
[08:46] <Neroon> BigMike: Since there is NO option or logfile that might be checked, if the micro is detected correctly or at all
[08:46] <Neroon> BigMike: It's just trial and error
[08:46] <BigMike> yes
[08:47] <Neroon> daninho: Well?
[08:47] <indus> BigMike: what is the connector to use on graphics card for tv out?
[08:47] <BigMike> i have totally reworked the look with nuovella icons I like it  - looks better than wiendows
[08:47] <BigMike> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2624154&l=91ff54bbf4&id=633195881
[08:48] <Neroon> indus: Depends on your graphic card
[08:48] <BigMike> i am using s-video but I had to download tv out from  the package manager
[08:48] <Neroon> indus: most do have the s-video
[08:48] <indus> Neroon: geforce 7600 gt, 2 dvi, and some other ports which i dont know with some really small cable long enough to connect my nose to my mouth
[08:49] <BigMike> indus its called Nvtv Tv Out
[08:49] <Neroon> indus: Looks like a pretty normal s-video out
[08:49] <indus> Neroon: it has 3 wires for output?
[08:49] <BigMike> more
[08:50] <Neroon> indus: The TV Out is the round one ...
[08:50] <BigMike> yes
[08:50] <indus> its a god damned really small cable, how can that connect to anything
[08:50] <BigMike> looks like a mouse plugin but diff wire inputs
[08:50] <Neroon> indus: Not quite sure about that card, but there are 2 different s-video plugs
[08:51] <BigMike> i got tv out but no image on my computer monitor
[08:51] <belim> hi. how can I check if my built in mic on my laptop is on /dev/audio or /dev/dsp ?
[08:51] <BigMike> i have some code to work with
[08:51] <Neroon> indus: 7 pin and 4 pin
[08:52] <indus> Neroon: ya i have s video and composite out
[08:52] <barbara> Anybody know how to fix sound capture problem with skype ?
[08:52] <indus> barbara: i do
[08:52] <Neroon> indus: And what's the problem then?
[08:52] <barbara> indus do tell ! :D
[08:52] <BigMike> neeros is the external micro called "mic or "front mic
[08:53] <indus> barbara: go to skype options>audio devices>set audio input to plug hw0 or try 1 ,2,3,4 etc
[08:53] <indus> Neroon: dont have cable
[08:53] <indus> Neroon: or i cannot believe graphics card people are so dumb  to provide such a small cable
[08:53] <badboy_> for converting files avi to dvd how i do that?
[08:53] <indus> barbara: u using 9.04?
[08:54] <badboy_> me?
[08:54] <badboy_> lol
[08:54] <belim> does anyone know what the easiest way to stream webcam video and audio over the internet would be?
[08:54] <Neroon> indus: Mostly it's a black thin cable with 2 cinch plugs on each side and an adapter for your graphical card
[08:54] <Neroon> indus: often the plugs are yellow
[08:54] <badboy_> indus how i convert files avi to dvd ? what program i use?
[08:55] <padd1> hey guys: is there any program or something where, somebody will ring a number and then, it will redirect my audio or something so I can hear the call? Just, want to sign up for this site but, kinda dodgey and don't wanna give my phone number so I don't get telmarketers calling at 2am. Please?
[08:55] <padd1> oh, it needs phone authentication so I have to hear
[08:55] <iceroot> belim: you can stream with vlc, so anybody can connect to your vlc and get the webcam and audio (but think of, that there is no multicast)
[08:56] <BigMike> neerom is there any way to change the micro to analogue?
[08:56] <mrjohns> hi, it's true that Ubuntu has some problems when installed in laptops?.
[08:56] <barbara> indus: yes
[08:56] <mrjohns> Do I need to apply hdparm to improve my harddisk's life ?
[08:56] <Neroon> BigMike: As much as I'd like to help you, I just can't sorry. Total audio newb ;-)
[08:56] <BigMike> ok thanks
[08:56] <BigMike> :)
[08:57] <BigMike> I will do some more research then
[08:57] <padd1> anyone?
[08:57] <Neroon> BigMike: Good luck
[08:57] <BigMike> ty
[08:57] <bovv> where is the partition manager for 9.04?
[08:58] <Neroon> indus: Just google for s-video and you can see the types of cables
[08:58] <iceroot> iis the wiimode working well with ubuntu? someone using already?
[08:58] <punzada> bovv: install it, package is gparted
[08:58] <iceroot> bovv: sudo apt-get install gparted and then start gparted
[08:58] <belim> iceroot, I did see that but could not figure out how to do it. i dont know if I did the server or client side wrong? do you know what ports it runs over?
[08:59] <iceroot> belim: 5900 by default if i am correct
[08:59] <bovv> punzada: wow... I am surprised that it was not installed as part of the default install.
[08:59] <eagle_deepdive> how to enable "ATIFGLRXDRI" and "XFree86-DRI" in the configuration
[09:00] <punzada> It's on the livecd, not in default install though
[09:00] <iceroot> belim: have a look at google with vlc stream   i dont know the parameters. i was using vlc-nox, so its complety working from cli
[09:00] <bovv> ah
[09:00] <barbara> still have no sound
[09:00] <bovv> An interesting surprise...  I like it. :-)
[09:01] <belim> iceroot, oh really? thats interesting. i wonder if that was my issue as I was VNC'd onto the machine at the same time. what is the best protocol to use http, mmsh, rtp do you know?
[09:01] <belim> iceroot, also what is vlc-nox?
[09:01] <iceroot> belim: sorry dont know, i was using http
[09:01] <iceroot> belim: vlc NO-Xserver
[09:02] <iceroot> belim: its a command-line-version  but the normal vlc is working too
[09:03] <iceroot> belim: it was something like vlc-nox -stream -from (file or device) - to (ip, port, protocoll)  thats all
[09:03] <ChoboMog> Hey.  Has anyone ever experienced the cursor randomly reseting itself and moving to one of the corners?  If it were moving (esp on windows) I would think someone has control of it, but this appears to be a glitch since it always simply moves instantly to a corner
[09:03] <belim> iceroot, yea i just looked, the name says it all if you look at it right. lol. oh right easy as that. so the to would you just do <IP_ADDRESS> or what?
[09:03] <barbara> omg mic input was off...
[09:03] <vise> why does vlc in linux not support all formats like vlc in windows? for example, flashxxx files from firefox /tmp, renamed to
[09:04] <vise> .flv dont work...
[09:04] <ChoboMog> I'm using 9.04 64-bit on an HP dv6000 laptop if that helps.  It does it btoh on the trackpad and with a USB mouse
[09:04] <iceroot> belim: no a lan (192.168.x.x) or wan-adress others can reach
[09:04] <iceroot> vise: its working fine here
[09:04] <vise> iceroot, What's ur version?
[09:05] <wizzo50> How do you setup a printer on here?
[09:05] <belim> iceroot, oh right i see. so if I set the TO port to my external WAN address and then any body wanting to connect just connects as they would?
[09:05] <iceroot> vise: 0.9.9a
[09:05] <vise> iceroot, Repositories imho, only have 0.9.4.. right? where u got that from?
[09:05] <iceroot> belim: yes, but remeber there is no multicast, for every user you need the same upload
[09:06] <iceroot> vise: i am on jaunty and i am using the repo version
[09:06] <iceroot> vise: also there is vlc 1.0 on there website
[09:07] <vise> ah.. im on intrepid.. can i get a 1.0 .deb from their website?
[09:07] <iceroot> vise: yes
[09:07] <belim> iceroot, what do you mean? so everybody would watch the same upload not individual streams? surely thats a good thing?
[09:07] <iceroot> belim: if you have a video that need 100kbit/s and you have 3 watchers, you will need 300kbit/s
[09:08] <belim> iceroot, how would multicast change that then?
[09:08] <vise> packet is sent to multiple addresses
[09:08] <wizzo50> Any help on here?
[09:08] <iceroot> belim: have a look at wikipedia what multicast is (and why it is not working on the internet) its hard to explain for me
[09:08] <vise> rather received by multiple
[09:08] <wizzo50> How do you set a printer up on here to print
[09:09] <belim> iceroot, sorry yea i will do :)
[09:09] <iceroot> wizzo50: depending on the printer, normaly, just connect it to the pc
[09:10] <wizzo50> iceroot: It is already hooked up
[09:10] <iceroot> wizzo50: what is the name of the printer?
[09:10] <iceroot> wizzo50: and what ubuntu-version
[09:11] <wizzo50> iceroot: HP Deskjet 722C
[09:11] <xavieran> Is there a way to get a list of all packages currently installed to put into a txt file?
[09:11] <xavieran> apt-get listall ?
[09:11] <wizzo50> iceroot: Ubuntu 9.04
[09:12] <belim> iceroot, oh right i see. I thought mulitcast was a video technology but its a network technology. ok makes sense now. thanks :)
[09:12] <iceroot> belim: np
[09:12] <belim> iceroot, i dont need mulitcast anyway as its only going to be me checking the stream
[09:13] <tsimpson> xavieran: "dpkg -l|grep '^ii'" will list all packages installed, and "dpkg -l|grep '^ii' > mypackages" will save that to "mypackages" in the directory you're in
[09:13] <belim> iceroot, one other thing quickly. is there an easy way to check if my mic would be /dev/audio or /dev/dsp ?
[09:13] <iceroot> belim: then vlc i a good solution for your problem
[09:13] <iceroot> belim: hm, dont know, sorry
[09:13] <xavieran> thanks tsimpson
[09:13] <HELP-nosound> using jaunty on thinkpad 600e
[09:14] <belim> iceroot, no problem. cheers.
[09:14] <HELP-nosound> not muted
[09:14] <tsimpson> !clone | xavieran, this is another way
[09:14] <belim> does anyone know an easy way to check if a microphone is /dev/audio or /dev/dsp ?
[09:14] <xavieran> thanks tsimpson
[09:14] <forceflow> belim: cat the stream and make some noise? :)
[09:15] <iceroot> wizzo50: i am sorry, cant find a driver from hp but there are some threads in forums for this printer,, jmaybe have a look there?
[09:15] <bouma> help, my ext4 9.04 64 bit ubuntu system isnt booting properly, it drop to nano! .. wierd, and the recovery mode fsck has a lot of problems.. should i say "y" to the fsck ? can someone help ? do ihave to reinstall, or is there a way to repair ??
[09:15] <belim> forceflow, lol. I catted both and each out-putted....
[09:16] <forceflow> damn :)
[09:17] <StealthX> Sorry if this is a noob question: How come I can't install nginx using apt-get on 9.04?
[09:17] <StealthX> aptitude doesn't work, only apt-get does. >.<
[09:17] <message144> Trying to decide between Evolution and Thunderbird for Ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[09:18] <chiwawa_42> Hi ! I'm looking for a compatible color laser multifunction printer. Tried the Dell 2135cn with no luck, I'm thinking of the 2145cn, but have no clue of what other manufacturers may offer. Any idea ?
[09:18] <xavieran> message144: mutt
[09:18] <bouma> ext4!
[09:18] <chiwawa_42> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters <- has really few devices listed :(
[09:18] <voss> message, thunderbird :)
[09:18] <xavieran> chiwawa_42: I would suggest you look for a HP one. HP have always had awesome print support in linux
[09:19] <ManDay> Hello, you probably know this kind of little "popup" you get in gnome when you successfully connected to WLAN (upper right corner "ow connected"). is there a way to create such a popup with a custom text and icon myself from within a bash script?
[09:19] <ManDay> or probablly another kind of message on screen?!
[09:19] <HELP-nosound> somebody, the googling isn't helping...
[09:19] <xavieran> ManDay: Yes
[09:19] <message144> xavieran: i did use mutt for about 6 months... there were some things i did like about it, but others i did not
[09:19] <ManDay> Thanks xavieran - do you know the command?
[09:19] <voss> My samsung printer is supported in linux
[09:19] <xavieran> ManDay: yep, just a sec
[09:19] <ManDay> Thank you
[09:19] <Oli``> Just bought a new motherboard that has the SupremeFX X-Fi onboard chipset for sound. Does this work with Ubuntu?
[09:19] <iomari> greetings, I've never used ubuntu. Can someone tell me when 9.04 came out or when a neww version is due? i want to know if I should start with te current or wait for the new release.
[09:20] <wizzo50> iceroot: Have a look where? I did see Under System/Administration/Printing and found HP-Deskjet-722C but can't seem to print anything after setting it up with that
[09:20] <xavieran> ManDay: I believe this should work: notify-send "My Message"
[09:20] <Oli``> It's the Asus Rampage II Gene (if anybody here has one and can report)
[09:20] <frogzoo1> iomari: 9.04 is fine
[09:20] <xavieran> ManDay: And of course you can stick bash vars in that string
[09:20] <ManDay> Great xavieran - awesome
[09:20] <xavieran> ManDay: np
[09:20] <StealthX> anyone know why?
[09:21] <R0ncoToke> Is there any way to assign windows key on your keyboard to launch the terminal ?
[09:21] <xavieran> R0ncoToke: Yes
[09:21] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, How ?
[09:21] <StealthX> ? paste
[09:21] <xavieran> R0ncoToke: You have to look in gconf or something
[09:21] <iomari> frogzoo1: thanks. I've been using suse for years now but I just discovered ebox and its ubuntu based so I'm forced to get into ubuntu now also.
[09:21] <StealthX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/224164/ <-- help pl0x
[09:21] <xavieran> R0ncoToke: I just use xmodkeys
[09:22] <voss> Printer support is definitely an area that needs improvement. Hopefully when chrome OS gets going, more people will write OS drivers for linux kernel
[09:22] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, Let me try xmodkeys. Will you be around ?
[09:22] <frogzoo1> iomari: ubuntu x.y = year 2, month y release
[09:22] <xavieran> R0ncoToke: Should be
[09:22] <chiwawa_42> xavieran: thanks, I'm taking a look at their products
[09:22] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, :)
[09:22] <ManDay> I have a question regarding notify-send then. There is a parameter called --icon= and in the help it says I can use a "stock icon" instead of filed icon. Can someone tell me where I can find names of stock-items - or where they are, at all?
[09:22] <xavieran> R0ncoToke: It might be cooled something different (brb Phone)
[09:24] <wizzo50> iceroot: Have a look where? I did see Under System/Administration/Printing and found HP-Deskjet-722C but can't seem to print anything after setting it up with that
[09:24] <Celestar> when using the fglrx driver for my R600, the System->Preferences->Display applet is not work for me. is there anything I'm doing wrong or should I just use something else?
[09:24] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, I think its xbindkeys
[09:26] <Celestar> "is not working" I mean :P
[09:26] <wizzo50> iceroot: For Device URI, is this right on a Serial Port #1?
[09:28] <ronald_> Does someone know where I can find the cgi::light module for ubuntu?
[09:28] <belim> forceflow, it seems to me as if its both. is that normal? I checked by muting the mic and seeing the outcome. when muted both go from giberish to to question marks in a black circle. that indicates they are both the mic right?
[09:28] <xavieran> R0ncoToke: That would be it :)
[09:28] <wizzo50> ANy help? Who knows how to set a HP Deskjet 722C up to print on Ubuntu?
[09:28] <forceflow> don't know, belim
[09:29] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, How do i create a scheme now ?
[09:30] <wizzo50> ANy help? Who knows how to set a HP Deskjet 722C up to print on Ubuntu?
[09:31] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, I figured it out. Thank you!
[09:31] <xavieran> R0ncoToke: if you install xbindkeys-config you can get a gui tool for it, and check this out:http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/59494
[09:32] <kg4cna> wizzo: have you tried "http://localhost:631/printers/" to see if it's listed there and if you can interact with it?
[09:32] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, I found the link. Thank you.
[09:32] <xavieran> np R0ncoToke  :)
[09:32] <wizzo50> I guess no-one knows how to setup a printer to print on here
[09:32] <eliasson> Hi. How can I see which process that uses the most network traffic?
[09:33] <ronald_> Read wizzo50
[09:33] <Cryptorchild> how to edit grub and modify grub with graphic?
[09:35] <oeee> hello
[09:37] <indus> Boohbah: i thought you were trying to render japanese fonts
[09:38] <iomari> is there a dvd version of the desktop and server?
[09:39] <lwells> why is there no dll hell in linux?
[09:39] <xavieran> lwells: Because I said so.
[09:39] <oeee> guys my taskbar has been dissapeared....
[09:39] <Slart> lwells: because we have dependency hell instead ;)
[09:39] <ronald_> because there is a lib-hell
[09:40] <lwells> ronald_: really?
[09:40] <xavieran> lwells: And thou shalt _burn_!
[09:40] <Slart> eliasson: netstat might be able to tell you
[09:40] <xavieran> lwells: <joke>
[09:40] <oeee> how can my taskbar will appear again ????
[09:40] <ronald_> yep shared libs
[09:40] <Slart> oeee: run this in a terminal "pkill gnome-panel; gnome-panel"
[09:40] <lwells> ronald_: just everything seems so stable
[09:41] <ronald_> true
[09:41] <lwells> thousands of libraries and they never seem to conflict
[09:43] <Slart> lwells: I think the main reason is that most of the software you install come from a repository where someone has tested and tried to make sure everything plays nice
[09:44] <lwells> Slart: true, but most software will be tested right?
[09:44] <Slart> lwells: try installing all the stuff in the regular desktop distro by downloading tarballs from developer sites and things will start getting weird pretty soon
[09:44] <ronald_> But you cant also deinstall evolution because of the lib links
[09:44] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, No way. Its not working.
[09:44] <Slart> lwells: the software from the repos will be tested, afaik
[09:44] <xavieran> R0ncoToke: what's not working?
[09:44] <indus> anyone can connect to yahoo with pidgin in 8.04?
[09:45] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, xbindkeys.
[09:45] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, Everything gets configured but when i hit the shortcut nothing pops up.
[09:45] <lwells> Slart: just seems that it might even be more unstable with so many people involved
[09:46] <xavieran> R0ncoToke: have you started xbindkeys?
[09:46] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, Yes.
[09:47] <xavieran> R0ncoToke: have you tested the command in the first place?
[09:47] <indus> anyone can connect to yahoo with pidgin in 8.04?
[09:47] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, Yes. Its gnome-terminal.
[09:47] <xavieran> R0ncoToke: Ok, that's a little strange...
[09:48] <xavieran> R0ncoToke: I'm on arch linux atm, so I can't check any ubuntu specific stuff...
[09:48] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, Its ok. Ill work on it and see. Thank you for your time. :)
[09:49] <xavieran> np R0ncoToke
[09:49] <Metabe1> hi, I need some help regarding tv out in Ubuntu
[09:50] <glitsj16> indus: what version of pidgin are you running? there were troubles connecting to yahoo, but 2.5.8 fixed those i believe
[09:50] <oeee> im running xubuntu and my taskbar has been dissapeared....
[09:50] <oeee> can anyone help me ?
[09:50] <indus> glitsj16: well,hardy uses 2.4.1
[09:50] <Hoss> Anyone know the folder for default Icons for a launcher?  I just need devises and folder icons.
[09:50] <indus> glitsj16: i used some backport version but it still says 2.4
[09:50] <kraut> moin
[09:51] <glitsj16> indus: http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=pidgin has .debs you can download/install
[09:51] <beli> indus: the install location is different then
[09:51] <melik> i have a huge text file.. how can i use mkdir command to grab the contents of the text file and make a bunch of directories
[09:51] <beli> indus: and in your path the old location comes first...
[09:51] <Paddy_NI> Hoss: /usr/share/icons/
[09:52] <Hoss> Paddy_NI:  Thanks, does the system use icons mostly from /usr/share/icons/Gnome?
[09:53] <Paddy_NI> Hoss: I am not so sure.. perhaps
[09:53] <HELP-nosound> i really need a little help with the sound configuration on my thinkpad 600e running ubuntu jaunty, its not muted, there seems to be something about misrecognized hardware, but i can't follow the discussions in the threads, i just don;t have the xp with this, please help me, take my hand and walk me through the darkness (muteness) and show me the sound again :)  i got the wireless dongle working all by myself and installed amsn and
[09:53] <HELP-nosound> konversation too, but this is beyond me, thats all the xp i have with linux right there in that paragraph, anybody?
[09:53] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, I figured it out.
[09:54] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, The software is working, but the get-key function in it has errors when i use it.
[09:54] <Hoss> Paddy_NI:  Another quick question.  I mounted a folder in /mnt/shared and I want to know if it will remain mounted after reboot.  Do I need to edit fstab for this?
[09:54] <iass> im running xubuntu and the taskbar has been dissapeared.... can anyone help?
[09:54] <R0ncoToke> xavieran, When i type in a key code it works.
[09:54] <Paddy_NI> Hoss: Well you could use mount-manager
[09:54] <Paddy_NI> !info mount-manager | Hoss
[09:55] <Paddy_NI> hmm
[09:55] <Paddy_NI> sec
[09:55] <indus> beli i thought backports upgrades your old installation
[09:55] <ikonia> indus: not quite
[09:55] <indus> glitsj16: thanks
[09:55] <Paddy_NI> Hoss: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-manager-user-friendly-management-of-disks-and-partitions.html
[09:55] <ct529_> hi indus .... found your graphic card?
[09:55] <ikonia> indus: that's packages from a later release that are backported to current
[09:56] <indus> ikonia: that means they will install over the old version correct?
[09:56] <indus> ct529_: ahh nextyear i buy
[09:57] <indus> ikonia: i added the repo and it said backport some pidgin available etc
[09:57] <indus> i installed it
[09:57] <ikonia> indus: sometimes, someetimes not, (firefox 3.5 being a good example)
[09:57] <indus> ikonia: iam talking about 8.04
[09:58] <ikonia> indus: it doesn't matter what your release is
[09:58] <indus> ikonia: ff-3.5 thats for jaunty which cant have a backport technically since its the latest isnt it
[09:58] <Hoss> Paddy_NI: looks like a very cool app... my laptop that just got ubuntu doesnt have internet connection at the moment.  I will look up manual entries in fstab.  I do like that app though.
[09:58] <glitsj16> indus: you could add a PPA to get updates for pidgin instead of going the getdeb 'route' .. look at https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ppa
[09:58] <indus> ikonia: hmm but i get the point,maybe its a different installation
[09:58] <ikonia> indus: you're not listening, a backport is a release for a LATER ubuntu release, that is back ported to an older current release
[09:58] <Paddy_NI> Hoss: sure thing
[09:58] <ikonia> indus: eg: firefox 3.5 for jaunty would be backported to ubuntu 8.04 - that's a back port
[09:59] <indus> ikonia: i understand
[09:59] <HELP-nosound> nothing? no help for the total newb?
[09:59] <indus> HELP-nosound: can you repeat question please
[09:59] <indus> glitsj16: i may try the ppa thanks
[10:00] <HELP-nosound> what do i do to get sound working on this old thinkpad 600e with ubuntu jaunty
[10:00] <glitsj16> indus: you're welcome, using it myself (for jaunty), works great
[10:00] <HELP-nosound> have googled it but its not helping me, i don't understand the instructions cause i have no xp with linux
[10:01] <HELP-nosound> i got the wireless to work and installed this mirc client and aMSN
[10:01] <bovv> I am trying to use lvm via gparted... but I might be wrong.  I really want to use lvm.  Could somebody help me out?  I have experience w/ lvm, my confusion comes from being a bit new to ubuntu.  Any help, please?
[10:01] <indus> glitsj16: its official pidgin ppa? i mean what about security and will it break anything
[10:01] <HELP-nosound> but the sound is just way beyond me
[10:01] <indus> !who | HELP-nosound
[10:02] <HELP-nosound> blacklist this edit that
[10:02] <HELP-nosound> who who
[10:02] <HELP-nosound> i am not an owl
[10:02] <glitsj16> indus: it is the official developers PPA for pidgin, and add the gpg key to get secure updates, should be as safe as the regular repo's
[10:02] <HELP-nosound> would you like a better nick?
[10:03] <glitsj16> indus: they offer hardy packages, so i guess dependencies are okay
[10:03] <lwells> Is there a way to add apps to start up at login??
[10:03] <indus> HELP-nosound: that message means, if you are addressing someone ,use his nick so it highlights
[10:03] <iass> anyone has idea about xubuntu???????
[10:04] <indus> HELP-nosound: like it highlights when i use your nick in the message
[10:04] <indus> HELP-nosound: like this
[10:04] <indus> HELP-nosound: understand?
[10:04] <HELP-nosound> so i type !who indus and it does the same to u?
[10:04] <grawity> iass: Try Alt-F2, xfce4-panel
[10:04] <indus> HELP-nosound: yes
[10:04] <HELP-nosound> !who indus
[10:04] <indus> HELP-nosound: !who | indus
[10:05] <HELP-nosound> ~who | indus
[10:05] <indus> HELP-nosound: did you read that message?
[10:05]  * grawity sighs
[10:05] <HELP-nosound> !who | indus
[10:05] <HELP-nosound> LOL
[10:05] <ikonia> indus: there is no official pidgin ppa - no ppa is "official" they are all personal archives, use at your own risk as it may make your system unsupportable to this channel/others
[10:06] <indus> glitsj16: ikonia yes i do believe that , its a personal archive ,but the dev ppa is cool also i think
[10:06] <HELP-nosound> yes very confusing, type /join #helpmeThinkpad600e
[10:06] <ikonia> indus: how cool he is does not make the product stable/supportable, if you use a personal PPA people will struggle to support you in here
[10:07] <iass> grawity, ty!!!
[10:08] <indus> ikonia: but its an 'official' ppa, karmic testers are using official 'empathy' ppa and they do get support in ubuntu+1
[10:08] <indus> ikonia: but thanks anyway ill keep it in mind
[10:08] <indus> HELP-nosound: so what does right click on panel on volume icon tell u
[10:09] <indus> which distro gives me the latest packages of everything
[10:09] <HELP-nosound> indus when it was still there?! it said something about null device
[10:09] <indus> HELP-nosound: its not there now?
[10:10] <HELP-nosound> !who | indus
[10:10] <indus> HELP-nosound: stop that !who thing, its used to send info messages to newcomers in the channel
[10:10] <HELP-nosound> lol
[10:10] <HELP-nosound> srry
[10:11] <HELP-nosound> it does not appear to be there now, that is frustrating, it was before
[10:12] <DaveSiberia> lwells: on the Paramaters menu you will find start up options
[10:13] <DaveSiberia> lwells: the icon with a left pointing arrow on it
[10:13] <DaveSiberia> lwells: on the System->Paramaters menu you will find start up options
[10:16] <HELP-nosound> indus i downloaded the tp-smapi but can't figure out where to type the commands listed in the readme
[10:18] <Slart> !who
[10:19] <Slart> nevermind me.. just being confused as always
[10:21] <bovv> ubottu, are you talking to me?
[10:21]  * bovv ducks
[10:21]  * bovv is amazed...
[10:21]  * bovv wants a bot... but wants to use lvm more.
[10:21]  * bovv yearns
[10:22]  * silverraindog drinks starbucks coffee :)
[10:22] <Hoss> On my laptop I run Windows as host, and ubuntu as guess in virtual box.  Using mount.vboxsf NAME /PATH/TO/FOLDER I can mount a shared folder, but it is gone after reboot.  How can I make the share last through reboot?
[10:22]  * HELP-nosound wonders if indus is coming back... sits down, takes out rolling papers...
[10:23] <indus> hi
[10:23] <indus> iam at work ,busy sorry
[10:23] <Hoss> Better question, how can I make a command run everytime I log in?
[10:23] <HELP-nosound> indus srry, any guidance on the thinkpad 600e?
[10:23] <Slart> !session | Hoss
[10:24] <Hoss> Slart: Thanks
[10:24] <indus> HELP-nosound: ill be back in 5 min
[10:24] <Slart> Hoss: you're welcome
[10:24] <HELP-nosound> indus i can't even follow the readme cause it assumes a certian level you know?
[10:25] <HELP-nosound> indus sweet, i'll be here, working also on the other computers, trying to set this little guy up to serve messaging and camera, and such
[10:25] <indus> HELP-nosound: what is tp smapi
[10:26] <indus> HELP-nosound:what are the different methods you tried to get sound to work
[10:26] <HELP-nosound> indus a file that some google refered article said would correct the incorrectly recog nized hardware
[10:27] <HELP-nosound> indus beyond right clicking on the icon i tried sound under system
[10:28] <indus> HELP-nosound: dont try crazy things
[10:28] <HELP-nosound> didn't really
[10:28] <indus> HELP-nosound: use paste and post the output of the command lspci
[10:28] <indus> !PASTE | HELP-nosound
[10:29] <HELP-nosound> indus ok back up here where do i input this command
[10:29] <indus> HELP-nosound: in a terminal . go to mainmenu>accessories >terminal
[10:30] <HELP-nosound> indus ok workin on it
[10:31] <^cheeky> hi, i installed irssi in my ubuntu server right now, and i am sshed into it atm , but when i type in "/connect irc.freenode.net" i get "-bash: /connect: No such file or directory". i take it that there is no way to start irssi over ssh ?
[10:31] <HELP-nosound> indus sorry but how does this paste work, i have the output on clipboard
[10:31] <lstarnes> ^cheeky: you have to start irssi before you can issue that command
[10:32] <Slart> ^cheeky: you might want to actually run irssi first
[10:32] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[10:32] <lstarnes> ^cheeky: you might want to start it in screen so that you can detach it without closing it
[10:33] <ShapeShifter499> how do I mount a file created with the dd command?
[10:33] <^cheeky> lstarnes, ok .. so it would screen irssi ?
[10:33] <boss_mc> !iso | ShapeShifter499
[10:33] <indus> HELP-nosound:did you read that message from ubottu? go to paste.ubuntu.com, paste the output there , then write your name and click on send, you will be redirected to a page which looks similar, give me the url of the page
[10:33] <lstarnes> ^cheeky: that should work.  You can then detach the screen with ctrl+a <release> d
[10:33] <ShapeShifter499> i'm sorry I meant a img file
[10:33] <lstarnes> ^cheeky: and later retach it from the same ssh session or a different with screen -r
[10:34] <lwells> I installed vmware workstation, but now I want to remove it, how do I do that?
[10:34] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: img files are often iso images.. if they are not there are conversion tools availabls
[10:34] <frogzoo> any apps that will demo/test graphics 3D performance?
[10:34] <discorpia> ShapeShifter499, through a loopback device, -o loop i think
[10:34] <^cheeky> lstarnes, well actually i just typed irrsi in the shh session and it worked .. and the link that they mentioned for noobs is missing
[10:34] <lstarnes> ^cheeky: screen and other gnu projects notate ctrl+a d as C-a d
[10:34] <Slart> frogzoo: glxgears is a simple little app
[10:34] <discorpia> ShapeShifter499,  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html
[10:34] <ShapeShifter499> well its a backup img file that was made with the dd command
[10:34] <discorpia> ShapeShifter499, should apply to iso and img files alike
[10:34] <frogzoo> Slart: yep thx, was hoping for something a bit more impressive :)
[10:35] <boss_mc> ShapeShifter499: that sounds like iso
[10:35] <HELP-nosound> indus browser loading, remember this is a 500mhz machine
[10:35] <Slart> frogzoo: =) I think there are some benchmark-apps available.. haven't tried any myself though
[10:35] <frogzoo> ShapeShifter499: if you dump a cd/dvd with dd - that is an .iso image, and you can burn it straight to disk
[10:35] <zeroXten> how does one mask package updates to keep a particular version?
[10:36] <ShapeShifter499> discorpia: so the backup I made of my windows partition thats now a img file I can mount it as a iso or what?
[10:36] <boss_mc> ShapeShifter499: try using the script from ubottu's message
[10:36] <frogzoo> zeroXten: it's not straightforward - google for a solution
[10:36] <discorpia> ShapeShifter499, yes, normally you can
[10:36] <boss_mc> !pinning | zeroXten
[10:36] <indus> HELP-nosound: 500 mhz?which machine is ubuntu on?
[10:36] <cheeky> wow, irssi very intresting , but  how do i switch between ## ?
[10:37] <zeroXten> ah yeah, "pinning" thanks
[10:37] <ShapeShifter499> how do I do that again??
[10:37] <boss_mc> zeroXten: or in synaptic, Package->Force version
[10:37] <HELP-nosound> indus http://paste.ubuntu.com/224202/   this one the thinkpad 600e 500 mhz
[10:37] <boss_mc> !iso > ShapeShifter499
[10:37] <frogzoo> cheeky: easiest to install a theme that takes care of it
[10:37] <ShapeShifter499> ok
[10:37] <HELP-nosound> indus runs ok, needs a little bit more ram
[10:38] <indus> HELP-nosound: how much ram u have now?
[10:38] <zeroXten> boss_mc: will that apply everywhere or just within synaptic?
[10:38] <ShapeShifter499> will that command messup my backup if it doesn't work correctly?
[10:38] <boss_mc> zeroXten: it's supposed to apply everywhere, but
[10:38] <boss_mc> I havn' used it
[10:38] <boss_mc> so dunno
[10:39] <HELP-nosound> indus does thunderbird, konversation, aMSN, not sure about ram its not enough i know but surely it can ding on msg, thats all i need
[10:39] <indus> HELP-nosound: i suggest you use xubuntu for this machine 8.04
[10:39] <zeroXten> thanks all
[10:39] <^cheeky> crap, how do i switch between ## in irssi ?
[10:39] <ShapeShifter499> well I have a backup of that backup if it don't work
[10:39] <lstarnes> ^cheeky: alt+number or /window number
[10:39] <indus> HELP-nosound: type alsactl in terminal do u get any output
[10:39] <HELP-nosound> yeah? but that means download, burn, install
[10:39] <ShapeShifter499> tnx for help! :)
[10:39] <HELP-nosound> indus checking
[10:39] <ShapeShifter499> that all my question bye
[10:40] <lstarnes> ^cheeky: I have /w number aliased to equal /window number, and I also use a script to alias /number to /window number
[10:40] <indus> HELP-nosound: sorry i mean alsamixer
[10:40] <ShapeShifter499> *questions
[10:40] <HELP-nosound> indus no such file
[10:41] <HELP-nosound> indus command not found aslamixer
[10:41] <grawity> ^cheeky: Also, the shortcuts Alt+1, Alt+2...Alt+0, Alt+Q, Alt+W... switch windows up to 20th
[10:41] <indus> HELP-nosound: ya i know
[10:42] <HELP-nosound> kk
[10:42] <indus> HELP-nosound: do one thing , open synaptic and reinstall alsa-base
[10:42] <ernetas`d> Morning everybody!
[10:42] <HELP-nosound> indus k
[10:43] <antgel> hi all - i'm more of a debian person but helping a friend with an ubuntu system - i can see that there isn't much in syslog by default.  he's having problems with network manager dropping a wireless connection - how can i turn on debug output in NetworkManager?
[10:43] <indus> HELP-nosound: then install alsamixer
[10:44] <HELP-nosound> indus k
[10:44] <indus> antgel: try this  tail -n0 -f /var/log/syslog > /tmp/syslog
[10:45] <uknow> whats a easy way off installing drivers
[10:45] <indus> antgel: and this sudo gdb /usr/sbin/NetworkManager
[10:45] <HELP-nosound> indus you think xbuntu make a difference?
[10:45] <indus> gdb should be installed i believe
[10:46] <irvan> hi all
[10:46] <indus> HELP-nosound: no it doesnt but will run faster with your config no?
[10:46] <antgel> indus: i've looked in his syslog and i don't see any output from NetworkManager - you're suggesting that i run it under gdb?  man, i only want to see more verbose output, not put breakpoints in
[10:46] <indus> HELP-nosound: iam surprised that 9.04 even runs on your machine
[10:46] <secret> hello. i have a problem... i cant install .tar.gz package. .deb is ok but not tar. i have a package in my home folder and everytime i try to install it it says: package not found. but its there!
[10:47] <indus> secret: how are you installing it
[10:47] <uknow> case sensitive
[10:47] <secret> indus, over shell, aptitude or apt-get or dpkg..
[10:47] <secret> nothing
[10:47] <HELP-nosound> indus i have read that others are doing it, with maxxed memory it works well, i am told, great little machine to sit on desk for chat email, frees up the other machines to work, is portable communication device,
[10:47] <secret> indus, i go crazy!
[10:48] <indus> HELP-nosound: ya then ok
[10:48] <indus> secret: u sure you in home folder
[10:48] <indus> secret: secret@secret-desktop~$?
[10:48] <bloupotlood>  Hey guys, would it be possible to set up a network shared printer from a Windows machine and have a couple of Ubuntu boxes print to it?
[10:48] <HELP-nosound> indus just now loaded synaptic, installing
[10:48] <irvan> which Internet messenger support  microphone and why is it dat linux do not support microphone
[10:48] <irvan> which Internet messenger support  microphone and why is it dat linux do not support microphone
[10:48] <indus> HELP-nosound: dont use synaptic , use terminal it will be faster
[10:49] <indus> irvan: skype, supports mic
[10:49] <uknow> is there a easy way off installing drivers or figureing out if there the worng ones
[10:49] <uknow> of*
[10:49] <irvan> only skype?
[10:50] <irvan> dat is unfair
[10:50] <indus> irvan: empathy i hear does support it
[10:50] <indus> irvan: what is it you want to do?
[10:50] <indus> secret:why dont you just right click on the file and extract it
[10:51] <irvan> wat if the one u want to talk to do not have skype
[10:51] <bloupotlood> Anyone here ever use a Panasonic Dp-180 Workio with ubuntu and got it to work by any chance? :)
[10:51] <secret> indus, well, the thing is. i dont have access to desktop.
[10:51] <indus> irvan: ya its true, then ask him to download it
[10:51] <killabee> what id I slip on a bar of soap in the shower?
[10:51] <indus> secret: ls -l <filename>
[10:51] <irvan> i want to talk to someone who has yahoo or msn
[10:51] <secret> indus, momo
[10:51] <indus> secret: whats momo
[10:52] <dickfeynman> hey... can somebody please help me upgrade my kernel ?
[10:52] <indus> secret: try moving file to desktop, then cd desktop then tar xvzf
[10:52] <secret> indus, yes is there
[10:52] <indus> secret: is it some error you get?
[10:52] <indus> HELP-nosound: did u install alsamixer
[10:53] <secret> indus, no, nothing.
[10:53] <makayabou> Hello
[10:53] <secret> indus, well, only that the package is not found. but its there"!!
[10:53] <bloupotlood> Whenever i print to this printer, it states print successful/completed, but nothing comes out of the printer.
[10:53] <bluepencil> any ideas?
[10:53] <indus> secret: maybe the file is not there, some buffer thing probab;y
[10:53] <secret> indus, ok, this is to much, buffers and so. what can i do?
[10:53] <makayabou> I'm going to get mad because I can't what is the launcher for Quit applet in Gnome-panel
[10:54] <Leoneof> hi :/
[10:54] <indus> bluepencil: put paper in it :P
[10:54] <secret> indus, btw, i have the same problem on my other linux ubuntu os
[10:54] <bluepencil> indus: aaaah, thats it lol
[10:54] <Leoneof> my laptop cannot boot from Portabl DVD :/
[10:54] <Leoneof> in case to install ubuntu
[10:54] <bluepencil> indus: its weird though, i scan for printers, pick this one up, could it not be printing because im using lpd?
[10:55] <indus> secret: does ls - l show that file?
[10:55] <bluepencil> lpd://<IP_ADDRESS> for example, should i try a different printing protocol?
[10:55] <secret> indus, yes.
[10:55] <indus> secret: give me output of ls -l
[10:55] <secret> indus, here?
[10:55] <indus> ! paste | secret
[10:56] <antgel> indus: did you see what i wrote ^^?
[10:56] <secret> indus, oh god, how is that working..
[10:56] <indus> bluepencil: canon printer?
[10:56] <indus> antgel: no
[10:56] <indus> antgel: repeat please
[10:56] <antgel> indus: you don't have /lastlog antgel?
[10:56] <bluepencil> indus: nay, its a Panasonic
[10:56] <jgomez2> can anyone here help with with dvd playing isses?
[10:56] <antgel> 10:46  antgel> indus: i've looked in his syslog and i don't see any output from NetworkManager - you're suggesting that i run it under gdb?  man, i only want to see more verbose output, not put breakpoints in
[10:56] <bluepencil> indus: i have had zero issues with the Kyocera printers.
[10:57] <makayabou> I'm going to get mad because I can't find where is the launcher for Quit applet in Gnome-panel
[10:57] <bluepencil> indus: they are basically plug and play :) but the freaking Panasonic Workio is driving me insane.
[10:57] <Leoneof> my laptop cannot boot from Portabl DVD , how to install ubuntu?
[10:57] <indus> antgel: i dont know much abou t this
[10:57] <onexused> /var/cache/apt/archives is where apt is supposed to keep its downloaded .debs, right?  And it's supposed to check there before downloading the file, right?  If so, why does apt want to download several files of the exact same version that's in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[10:57] <secret> indus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/224214/plain/
[10:58] <makayabou> I'm going to get mad because I can't what is the launcher for Quit applet in Gnome-panel
[10:58] <indus> bluepencil: you need to check printer wiki on ubuntu community
[10:58] <antgel> indus: maybe better not to answer at all then, thanks
[10:58] <secret> indus, oh, maybe you should not look for the other things.
[10:58] <indus> !help
[10:58] <frogzoo> dickfeynman: leave your kernel alone
[10:58] <makayabou> What is its name? Is it in /usr/bin?
[10:58] <bluepencil> indus: will do, thanks mate :)
[10:58] <secret> indus i have this package there which cannot be loaded: -rw-r--r--  1 secret secret<PHONE_NUMBER>-07-21 23:48 eqdkp-1.4.0b2-1.tar.gz
[10:58] <Rails3> hi I like pickles
[10:59] <ikonia> secret: how are you trying to load that
[10:59] <ikonia> Rails3: please don't mess around, this is an ubuntu support/discussion channel
[10:59] <makayabou> Which is the launcher for quit applet in gnome-panel?
[10:59] <jgomez2> Can anyone help me? I am having trouble with my DVD player.
[10:59] <lstarnes> makayabou: I think it's built into gnome-panel
[10:59] <indus> antgel: sorry for trying to help
[10:59] <secret> indus you mena how to isntall it?
[11:00] <oldude67> secret, have you tried untaring the file?
[11:00] <HELP-nosound> indus wowza thats bad,  slow choppy
[11:00] <makayabou> lstarnes Is there a way to add a quit object in customized menu bar?
[11:00] <dickfeynman> frogzoo: but er... its an old version
[11:00] <secret> indus i opened the package there, changed directory into the folder and tried: ./install, make apt-get, aptitude.
[11:00] <dickfeynman> frogzoo: i'm using the 2.6.24 kernel
[11:00] <secret> the file IS already untared
[11:00] <lstarnes> makayabou: right click on the panel, select "add to panel", then search for "Quit..."
[11:00] <ikonia> secret: you dont use apt-get to install a tar file
[11:00] <secret> tje line above
[11:00] <Emery> secret, ./configure ?
[11:01] <secret> tje i do
[11:01] <indus> secret: ohhh! already untarred? then nwhat is the problem
[11:01] <ikonia> secret: inside the tar file there is normally a README and an INSTALL file, read them both
[11:01] <frogzoo> dickfeynman: you on 9.04?
[11:01] <secret> indus i do
[11:01] <onexused> Where does apt download files to?  It is supposed to look there before downloading the file again, right?
[11:01] <richardcavell> anyone able to get Half-Life 1 working under WINE?  I'm getting a lot of graphical problems.  Should I download and use Half-Life Source instead?
[11:01] <dickfeynman> frogzoo: nope... 8.04
[11:01] <Emery> secret, ./configure then make ... then make install
[11:01] <frogzoo> onexused: /var/cache
[11:01] <ikonia> Emery: no - don't blindly recommend that
[11:01] <secret> indus i did, but its not working. what you mean that this is the problem.
[11:01] <Emery> ikonia, i do
[11:01] <makayabou> lstarnes, I don't want to add it on the panel but in the applications.menu
[11:01] <frogzoo> dickfeynman: then your distro was built to run with that kernel
[11:01] <indus> secret: read the readme with the file , mostly its .configure first
[11:02] <HELP-nosound> indus rebuilding serach index
[11:02] <Emery> then it's make
[11:02] <onexused> frogzoo: /var/cache/apt/archives?  Why would apt not be looking there, or not using a file that's there?
[11:02] <ikonia> Emery: thats your business, but don't blindly recommend that to uses please
[11:02] <Emery> considering you have the right stuff to compile
[11:02] <lstarnes> onexused: it depends on that the policy for the package is. You can check what the policy for a package is with apt-chace policy packagename
[11:02] <dickfeynman> frogzoo: oh!
[11:02] <antgel> indus: you misunderstand me, i'm not flaming you.  just pointing out that if you don't know, it's actually less helpful than saying nothing, as it wastes your time and mine.  quality not quantity etc
[11:02] <indus> secret: ./configure , then make then sudo make install
[11:02] <secret> indus do i have to remove the non tar?
[11:02] <Emery> ikonia, i'll reccommend what i like.. it's a help channel
[11:02] <BCMM> can grub be used to PXE boot from a machine without BIOS support for PXE?
[11:02] <makayabou> lstarnes, I tried to use OB-shutdown but it doesn't work
[11:02] <secret> indus do i have to change the directory? i mean, do have to be in the file?
[11:02] <lstarnes> onexused: oops, apt-cache policy packagename
[11:02] <ikonia> Emery: I'm asking you policlt to think about what you're suggesting to people
[11:02] <jgomez2> Can anyone help? I am having DVD troubles on 9.04.
[11:02] <dickfeynman> frogzoo: i also have a problem where my laptop(dell inspiron 1525) heats up and shuts down often
[11:02] <BCMM> and, can i install a version of grub which does this, using ubuntu?
[11:02] <onexused> richardcavell: Half-Life 1?  I haven't had any problems with that.  What problems are you having specifically?
[11:02] <lstarnes> secret: yes, you have to be in the directory that it was extracted to
[11:02] <dickfeynman> frogzoo: i read somewhere that the problem might be with ubuntu
[11:03] <Emery> ikonia, what's so bad about it .. that's how you compile ..
[11:03] <lstarnes> jgomez2: can you provide more dtails?
[11:03] <Emery> ikonia, just because it's beginner friendly don't mean everything has to be done the easy way
[11:03] <lstarnes> *details
[11:03] <ikonia> Emery: no it's not - you don't do it blind
[11:03] <frogzoo> dickfeynman: why not upgrade to 9.04?
[11:03] <Emery> i've always done it that way
[11:03] <Emery> and it always works
[11:03] <lstarnes> Emery: many programs don't use that method
[11:03] <Emery> so ..
[11:03] <Emery> being what ?
[11:03] <dickfeynman> frogzoo: i've heard there are a lot of bugs...
[11:03] <Emery> i havnt come across one
[11:03] <FloodBot2> Emery: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:03] <ikonia> Emery: that's your opinion - works for me does not mean recommend it blidnly
[11:03] <Skaperen> any kernel experts around that might have some understanding of what/where this is failing ... http://phil.ipal.org/img_2126.jpg
[11:03] <dickfeynman> frogzoo: 8.04 is fairly stable for me
[11:03] <secret> indus bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[11:03] <secret> ... see?
[11:03] <lstarnes> Emery: kde is one example
[11:04] <richardcavell> onexused: Direct3D mode doesn't work at all.  OpenGL mode in a window makes my screen flicker madly.  I get about 30 fps in software render mode and about 10 fps in OpenGL mode, on modern hardware
[11:04] <jgomez2> lstarnes: yes when I insert a DVD into my CD/DVD drive on my computer, it spins for a minute and then goes quiet. Then I go into any of the players and they all say there is no media in the drive.
[11:04] <ikonia> secret: read the README and INSTALL files
[11:04] <Emery> sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[11:04] <Emery> kde dont need to be compiled
[11:04] <lstarnes> Emery: I mean from source
[11:04] <th0r> ikonia: if that is the approach here, why don't we refer more people to google
[11:04] <ikonia> Emery: I'm asking you as a request, please don't recommend that blindly
[11:04] <ikonia> th0r: if what is the approach ?
[11:04] <Emery> who's gunna install it from, src .. when it's in apt-get
[11:04] <onexused> lstarnes: http://pastebin.com/d7cce49c2 What is this supposed to tell me?
[11:04] <th0r> rtfm
[11:04] <dickfeynman> frogzoo: i'm in the middle of some project now, so i dont wanna risk upgrading... plan to do so about a month later
[11:05] <onexused> richardcavell: What sort of things does it tell you if you run it from the terminal?
[11:05] <ikonia> th0r: he's trying the obvious stuff and it's not working - so reading the INSTALL file is the only way he's going to find out how to build it
[11:05] <chronographer> Hello I have constant network activity to a  couple of ip addresses, I wonder if someone could help me indentify what program is doing it and how I can block it?
[11:05] <Skaperen> note that this failure happens with Ubuntu for i386 but not for amd64
[11:05] <richardcavell> onexused: I'm running it from Steam, so I don't know
[11:05] <th0r> ikonia: he didn't try the obvious stuff....it is apparently his first compile and he needs a start
[11:05] <lstarnes> onexused: <IP_ADDRESS>+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is currently installed, but if you were to try installing it again or updating it would use <IP_ADDRESS>+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:05] <antgel> Emery: don't you think it makes more sense to use stow?
[11:05] <ikonia> th0r: he tried /configure he said - it said no such file
[11:06] <ikonia> th0r: so if he can read that and tell us what it says to do - we can work it through
[11:06] <chronographer> Can I identify what application is using a port and contacting a certain ip address?
[11:06] <richardcavell> chronographer: use Firestarter
[11:06] <secret> ikonia, there is not install file
[11:06] <onexused> richardcavell: I see.  I'm using the non-steam game of the year edition.
[11:06] <richardcavell> chronographer: which is a GUI for nmap
[11:06] <antgel> chronographer: sudo lsof -i: <port>
[11:06] <Emery> antgel, we all have our own methods .. no matter what you say someones going to complain
[11:06] <lstarnes> chronographer: you could check the output of sudo netstat -alp
[11:06] <ikonia> secret: there is no INSTALL or README file ?
[11:06] <chronographer> richardcavell: i am
[11:06] <th0r> ikonia: I don't think he said he tried configure....he didn't have a start on compiling that ... he was trying apt-get amongst other things
[11:06] <chronographer> it doesn't say what the software is
[11:06] <onexused> lstarnes:
[11:06] <secret> ikonia,no
[11:06] <antgel> Emery: don't you think it's better to use stow?
[11:06] <indus> سسا
[11:06] <ikonia> secret: what is this software ?
[11:06] <richardcavell> onexused: I own both version of Half-Life but WINE is a bit awkward
[11:06] <indus> i mean hi
[11:06] <secret> ikoniawait!
[11:06] <Emery> antgel you a parrot ?
[11:07] <chronographer> does give me ips, they are in china and in buenos aires
[11:07] <lstarnes> onexused: your message contained no content