[04:43] <nate_02631> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18691
[04:43] <zealot> bonsai: /var/log/messages or from the dmesg command like any linux distro
[04:43] <frogzoo> bonsai: /var/log/messages
[04:43] <stefg> krism: so what? you obviously know your hardware.
[04:43] <cmug> maybe they are releasing Edgy Eft images? :D
[04:43] <nate_02631> @ zealot the links are on the desktop already...
[04:43] <bonsai> tks
[04:43] <zealot> nate_02631: Try again and see if that does anything?
[04:43] <krism> stefg: the problem is that i want to load "nvsound" instead of "snd_hda_intel"
[04:43] <frogzoo> nate_02631: maybe the repos were upgraded to edgy?...
[04:43] <nate_02631> zealot - I don't know what you mean...
[04:43] <cmug> oh, edgy already has images..
[04:44] <stefg> krism: why? and what keeps you from doing it?
[04:44] <thirdalbum> Quick question: Are www.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org down?
[04:44] <Hexidigital_> thirdalbum::  read the topic
[04:44] <krism> stefg: ubuntu keeps autoloading snd_hda_intel on boot.. not sure how to configure it to use nvsound
[04:44] <Cornellius> Someone spilled coffee on the keyboard
[04:44] <thirdalbum> Sorry, I didn't notice the title :-)
[04:44] <EvanCarroll> Ah, I was about to ask the same thing.
[04:44] <nate_02631> zealot - links are on desktop already - Firefox links on desktop not in bookmarks - opening in gedit instead of Firefox...
[04:44] <stefg> krism: is the sound working or not?
[04:45] <frogzoo> krism: blacklist snd_hda_intel
[04:45] <ardchoille> Cornellius: That's a bad way to wake the keyboard up
[04:45] <Hexidigital_> Cornellius::  wash it out and hang it upside down in your shower
[04:45] <krism> frogzoo: cool, i'll give that a try
[04:45] <krism> stefg: sort of. it's a second or two late
[04:45] <EvanCarroll>  3:  <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>)                          2383.892ms
[04:45] <krism> stefg: so i'm hoping that if i use the nvidia proprietary module, it'll be on time
[04:45] <Cornellius> Hexidigital_: Not MY keyboard :)
[04:46] <EvanCarroll>  3:  <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>)                          2383.892ms
[04:46] <EvanCarroll>  3:  <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>)                          2383.892ms
[04:46] <Hexidigital_> Cornellius::  oh
[04:46] <Hexidigital_> :)
[04:46] <stefg> krism: rather read the dmix howto, than trying to fix what ain't broke
[04:46] <profoX`> hw related question: if i change my ati radeon with an nvidia card and i boot up linux, what will happen to xorg ?
[04:46] <protestingrab> I am running Ubuntu 6.06, I have an encrypted arhive that contains picutures I want to unzip. When I try extracting the files I get an error message that says
[04:46] <protestingrab> skipping: CIMG0065.AVI need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v2.1)
[04:46] <protestingrab> skipping: CIMG0471.AVI need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v2.1)
[04:46] <protestingrab> skipping: CIMG1097.AVI need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v2.1)
[04:46] <protestingrab> skipping: CIMG1386.JPG need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v2.1)
[04:46] <krism> stefg: i'll check it out
[04:46] <protestingrab> skipping: CIMG1389.JPG need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v2.1)
[04:46] <protestingrab> skipping: CIMG1390.JPG need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v2.1)
[04:46] <protestingrab> skipping: CIMG1392.JPG need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v2.1)
[04:46] <Hexidigital_> protestingrab::  stop it
[04:46] <protestingrab> skipping: CIMG1397.JPG need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v2.1)
[04:46] <protestingrab> skipping: CIMG1399.JPG need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v2.1)
[04:46] <krism> !paste > protestingrab
[04:46] <protestingrab> skipping: CIMG1400.JPG need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v2.1)
[04:46] <simon_> protestingrab: stop!
[04:46] <jbroome> protestingrab: stop
[04:46] <protestingrab> skipping: CIMG1401.JPG need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v2.1)
[04:46] <protestingrab> skipping: CIMG1403.JPG need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v2.1)
[04:46] <protestingrab> skipping: CIMG1406.AVI need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v2.1)
[04:46] <profoX`> protestingrab: bye :P
[04:46] <Hexidigital_> ty Hobbsee
[04:47] <Hobbsee> how annoying.
[04:47] <ardchoille> Hobbsee: Thank you :)
[04:47] <thirdalbum> ProfoX: It will probably refuse to start up until you edit Xorg.conf to vesa or to fglrx
[04:47] <jbroome> yay irssi for protecting me from making large pastes
[04:47] <recon0> What program should I use for opening flash files (.swf) because Totem isn't doing the trick.
[04:48] <ardchoille> jbroome: Can you pm me and teach me how to do that?
[04:48] <profoX`> thirdalbum: i want to be sure.. i am developing something called SmartGuide that will detect and reconfigure hw changes in a smart/interactive way, but first i want to know how ubuntu handles it right now
[04:48] <stefg> !flash > recon0
[04:48] <frogzoo> profoX`: x will crap out
[04:48] <nik> recon0: try swf-player
[04:49] <Bison> Hey guys
[04:49] <nate_02631> On my firefox desktop URL shortcuts - those work when dragging into Opera - but not into Firefix - never into Firefox, although double clicking them once opened in Firefox - now they fetch the page source and open in gedit - weird ... I didn't change anything AFIAK...
[04:49] <profoX`> frogzoo: k, thanks.. you sure? :)
[04:49] <Stormx2> hi Bison
[04:49] <frogzoo> profoX`: g'teed
[04:49] <Hexidigital_> Bison::  hi
[04:49] <Bison> nate_02631: remove .mozilla
[04:49] <Bison> try that
[04:49] <satempler> !java
[04:49] <krism> stefg: i'm a little confused about dmix. the hardware mixer is working fine.
[04:49] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:49] <stefg> nate_02631: right click, propeties, second tab 'open with..'
[04:50] <tuxtux> please for plugin audio to kaffeine-dvb?
[04:50] <kbrooks> nate_02631: DO NOT remove .mozilla. You will lose your settingss.
[04:50] <Hexidigital_> NOTE:: REPOSITORIES and WEB are currently DOWN
[04:50] <nate_02631> stefg - no such option for these file types.... Bison - yeah I will begrudgingly try that...
[04:50] <profoX`> frogzoo: i think xorg should be patched to fall back to vesa when the normal driver chickens out.. to be more user friendly ;P
[04:50] <Bison> you can always redo your settings
[04:50] <Stormx2> Hexidigital_: why?
[04:50] <nate_02631> kbrooks - yeah, but I can save my bookmarks which is all that's treally important...
[04:50] <Stormx2> Hexidigital_: DNS change or something?
[04:50] <rabster> I am protestingrab...sorry about before i did not realize that pasting my error message would do that
[04:50] <kbrooks> Hexidigital_: NOTE:: WHO CARES?
[04:50] <nate_02631> Will restart gdm and be back :)
[04:50] <frogzoo> profoX`: the whole architecture of x is somewhat in need of an overhaul...
[04:50] <Stormx2> XD
[04:50] <rabster> i apologize
[04:50] <Hexidigital_> Stormx2::  that's what i hear
[04:50] <Stormx2> pwnt.
[04:51] <Hexidigital_> kbrooks::  people who are looking for support, perhaps?
[04:51] <Bison> GDM says nay to letting me in gnome
[04:51] <dngldoof> for some reason, I'm unable to install GTK+
[04:51] <rabster> I am running Ubuntu 6.06, I have an encrypted arhive that contains picutures I want to unzip
[04:51] <Stormx2> get'im kbrooks ;-)
[04:51] <frogzoo> rabster: never paste in chan
[04:51] <rabster> and i keep getting an error message but this time ill paste the first line
[04:51] <wheels3572> Morning all I have a strange issue:  I get Xubuntu login screen but when I login actually I get the regular ubuntu background how can I get the ubuntu login screen back?
[04:51] <Bison> .xsession-errors says: 'bash: no job control in this shell'
[04:51] <Stormx2> rabster: Or pastebin.com
[04:51] <rabster> skipping: CIMG0065.AVI need PK compat. v5.1 (can do v2.1)
[04:51] <Bison> What does that mean
[04:51] <kindor> how can i set the default keyboard layout in gnome to US for all users, e.g. with gconf. this is in a NX environment
[04:51] <stefg> krism: you could test the nvidia driver manually by 'sudo rmmod intel-blabla-driver' and 'sudo modprobe' the other one. But restart alsa after changing drivers
[04:52] <Stormx2> rabster: What are you running which gives this error message
[04:52] <rabster> that wasn't directed at the user "skipping" the error starts with skipping
[04:52] <sethk> Bison, that isn't necessarily a problem
[04:52] <A[D] minS> !apt-get
[04:52] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:52] <profoX`> Is there any way i can access the ubuntu hardware compatibility list?
[04:52] <kindor> !apt-get gnome-keyboard-layout
[04:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about apt-get gnome-keyboard-layout - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:52] <rabster> stormx2: i tried using two different unzippers
[04:52] <Bison> sethk: what do you mean its not a problem?
[04:52] <Enverex> profoX`, What hardware do you have?
[04:52] <rabster> let me look up the names of the two programs i used
[04:52] <bobbyd> profoX`: use google's cache
[04:52] <A[D] minS> !source.list
[04:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about source.list - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:52] <kindor> also handy for searching porn
[04:52] <kindor> ;/
[04:52] <rexbron> Is anyone else having trouble connecting to the ubuntu.com, ubuntuforums.org or launchpad.net websites?
[04:52] <frogzoo> profoX`: dude, no way
[04:52] <dngldoof> can anyone help me with installing GTK+
[04:52] <sethk> Bison, just that.  the message "no job control in this shell" is normal in some cases
[04:52] <Stormx2> rabster: What are you trying to do, extract a zip?
[04:53] <Hexidigital_> A[D] minS:: read the topic
[04:53] <sethk> Bison, why do you think it is an error?
[04:53] <Bison> sethk: so basically that tells me nothing
[04:53] <rabster> stormx2: yes that is exactly what i am trying to do
[04:53] <rexbron> lol read topic
[04:53] <frogzoo> bobbyd: good idea that
[04:53] <nate_02631> Bison Stormx2 - nuking mozilla didn't work...
[04:53] <stefg> rexbron: /topic
[04:53] <Stormx2> rexbron: /topic
[04:53] <wheels3572> !sources.list
[04:53] <sethk> Bison, that particular line, yes.  there must be others, though
[04:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:53] <stefg> heh
[04:53] <kindor> thanks for your help
[04:53] <Stormx2> nate_02631: Told ya ;-)
[04:53] <orbin> dngldoof: as in the libs?
[04:53] <Stormx2> nate_02631: Open with...
[04:53] <Bison> sethk: really there isn't anything else that looks like errors
[04:53] <A[D] minS> Hexidigital_:  thx
[04:53] <nate_02631> That's O.K. - I saved it!
[04:53] <profoX`> Enverex: thats not the point, i need the hw database.. there was this application to send your hardware compatibility to ubuntu right? so where does that info go
[04:53] <Bison> sethk: but i'll recheck
[04:53] <rabster> storm2x: i used the Archive Manager that came wtih Ubuntu and also Xarchiver
[04:53] <sethk> Bison, ok
[04:54] <rabster> both of them give me that error message
[04:54] <nate_02631> Stormx2 - lik I said no such option - make a desktop URL shortcut yourself and see...
[04:54] <Stormx2> rabster: What are you trying to do?
[04:54] <Bison> previous line
[04:54] <wheels3572> !sources.list > A[D] minS
[04:54] <javajazz> hi
[04:54] <Stormx2> nate_02631: I don't use em.
[04:54] <nate_02631> Stormx2 - well, I'm just sayin....
[04:54] <Bison> '/etc/gdm/XSession: Beginning Session Setup...
[04:54] <rabster> Stormx2: I am trying to extract the files onto my ubuntu desktop
[04:54] <recon0> is there any quick fix for apt in the meantime?
[04:54] <nate_02631> Stormx2 I use them when there's just a temp site I want to bookmark and not add to main bookmarks...
[04:54] <Bison> and a bunch of other jass that looks normal
[04:54] <dngldoof> orbin: i've installed Glibs and Pango, but GTK keeps on complaining that I should install GLIB 2.13, which doesn't exist (or am I wrong)
[04:54] <Stormx2> rabster: What kind of file?
[04:54] <javajazz> hello
[04:54] <Enverex> profoX`, Oh, erm, 1 sec
[04:54] <fraroco> Hello everybody can you help me to install java?
[04:54] <frogzoo> recon0: is this a trick question?
[04:55] <rabster> Stormx2: It is a .zip file that is encrypted with a password that I have
[04:55] <frogzoo> fraroco: not atm dude, can't be done, soz
[04:55] <javajazz> are ubuntu web sites down?
[04:55] <A[D] minS> wheels3572: thx ,, but i found  my point in Topic :D
[04:55] <Enverex> profoX`, Google says http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/ but something is stalling it
[04:55] <Stormx2> rabster: Can you extract zips without password protection?
[04:55] <Hexidigital_> javajazz::  read the topic
[04:55] <stefg> !java > fraroco
[04:55] <recon0> frogzoo:...?
[04:55] <orbin> dngldoof: what do you mean by gtk complains?  what are you trying to install/get working?
[04:55] <rabster> Stormx2: Yes i did it a few times when installing a game to run on wine
[04:55] <gnomefreak> recon0: no there is no work around
[04:55] <papo> Hi. the new cupsys-package from dapper-updates isn't working... how can I prevent it from being installed but still get the other updates?
[04:55] <profoX`> Enverex: yes i know.. pretty strange.. ubuntu cached pages are down, ubuntuforums.org is down and ubuntu.com is down
[04:55] <frogzoo> recon0: repos are down, so what can you do?
[04:56] <recon0> manually install all packages.
[04:56] <jbroome> get away from the computer for a while?
[04:56] <nate_02631> jbroome - smite the nonbeleiver!!
[04:56] <Enverex> profoX`, Well it doesn't seem to be "down" as it kinda loads, at least partially, but most other things are down so it sticks
[04:56] <frogzoo> k, thx  ompaul
[04:56] <gnomefreak> ompaul: au same way
[04:56] <rabster> Stormx2: I just tried it again and I am able to extract a different unencrypted zip file
[04:56] <frogzoo> recon0: there ya go -> ie.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:57] <Bison> sudo adduser; only one or two names allowed at one time
[04:57] <recon0> OK.
[04:57] <Bison> what is that all about?
[04:57] <recon0> !souce
[04:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about souce - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:57] <ompaul> frogzoo, they have to kill off security as it does not work atm
[04:57] <gnomefreak> recon0: # out the security repos
[04:57] <recon0> !source
[04:57] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:57] <Hexidigital_> what about archive.ubuntu.com? dosen't that redirect to a working mirror
[04:57] <Hexidigital_> ?
[04:57] <gnomefreak> Hexidigital_: no
[04:57] <dngldoof> orbin: I've been trying to install some audio processing tools (Jackbeat, spiral modular etc), but every program I've tried lacks some packages, and when I try to install the packages I find that there are yet more packages missing.
[04:57] <Hexidigital_> gnomefreak::  ah
[04:57] <recon0> anyone know where the source file is again?
[04:57] <ompaul> Hexidigital_, when dns is down how could it? ;-)
[04:57] <frogzoo> ompaul: i'm wondering if this is related to the debian hack? just timing seems a bit coincidental
[04:57] <profoX`> Enverex: well thx anyway, i need the hw db because i am trying to develop a daemon to simplify hardware changes/setup in the future :)
[04:57] <Hexidigital_> recon0::  /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:57] <Stormx2> Please remember the websites are down because of a DNS error: what works for some people will NOT work for others!
[04:57] <gnomefreak> frogzoo: nope
[04:58] <Hexidigital_> ompaul::  i didn't think of that :(
[04:58] <fool2cool> im trying to configure courier because i just registered a domain name
[04:58] <frogzoo> gnomefreak: you got the ear of someone on this inside?
[04:58] <fraroco> Hello everybody can you help me to install java?
[04:58] <fool2cool> any help wud b appreciated
[04:58] <ompaul> frogzoo, no idea
[04:58] <gnomefreak> frogzoo: its a DNS error
[04:58] <dngldoof> orbin: and I think I should first update my GTK+ to the latest version, but even it doesn't work
[04:58] <fraroco> !Java > fraroco
[04:58] <Stormx2> fool2cool: courier?
[04:58] <orbin> dngldoof: step 1: check if the app is already in the repos.  jackbeat and spiralsynthmodular pacakges are in there.
[04:58] <fool2cool> yes
[04:58] <fool2cool> its a mail server
[04:58] <jbroome> i like the new bot redirect.  very nice
[04:58] <Bison> fraroco: you'll have to wait until the repos are up
[04:58] <gnomefreak> frogzoo: debian repos have nohting to do with ubuntu
[04:58] <stefg> fraroco: ubotu already sent you a pm
[04:58] <dngldoof> orbin: k
[04:59] <frogzoo> gnomefreak: cool, what the ttl on the records o.O
[04:59] <Bison> fraroco: you cannot install anything until they are
[04:59] <Stormx2> fool2cool: Ah ok. How did you install it?
[04:59] <orbin> dngldoof: only reason i build an app is if i can't find it in the repos
[04:59] <fool2cool> apt-get install
[04:59] <nate_02631> Anyone have any thought on my Firefox desktop URL shortcuts - source code of target pages opening in gedit instead of opening page in Firefox...
[04:59] <Stormx2> fool2cool: OK... so whats the problem?
[04:59] <fraroco> Bison: when?
[04:59] <fool2cool> i dnt have a clue how to use it or configure it
[04:59] <fool2cool> lol
[04:59] <fool2cool> my friend suggested using it
[04:59] <Stormx2> fool2cool; try man courier
[04:59] <Stormx2> fool2cool: Also check their website for documentation
[04:59] <Ronz> fool2cool: you can use synaptic package namager
[04:59] <orbin> dngldoof: you'd have to pastebin the errors you're getting for configure for me to take a stab at what you need, but like i said,   jsut get it from the repos.  it's so much easier
[05:00] <Stormx2> Ronz: What good would that do?
[05:00] <dngldoof> orbin: ok, I'll try. Thanks
[05:00] <zsuzsi> hi guys
[05:00] <zsuzsi> i have a problem
[05:00] <Bison> fraroco: i don't know...when they fix it
[05:00] <frogzoo> gnomefreak: except a common code base
[05:00] <Stormx2> zsuzsi: let us know ;-)
[05:00] <stefg> !enter > zsuzsi
[05:00] <zsuzsi> it's actually not only my problem, it's described here: i have the same problem as described at http://www.ubuntux.org/dapper-gnome-error
[05:00] <Ronz> Stormx2: didn't see the whole thing...never mind. ;)
[05:00] <orbin> dngldoof: yw.
[05:01] <Stormx2> stefg: Oh he only did it once, don't be such a pessimist ;-)
[05:01] <fraroco> bison ok I wanna instal amsn and azureus.. but they need it."
[05:01] <zsuzsi> i can temporarily fix it as it says under "solution" - but i dont know how to fix it permanently!!!
[05:01] <fraroco> Bison:  ok I wanna instal amsn and azureus.. but they need it."
[05:01] <Stormx2> zsuzsi: Fix what?
[05:01] <Stormx2> fraroco: Need what?
[05:01] <fraroco> Stormx2: Java..
[05:01] <zsuzsi> what does "Flushed the settings cache" mean?
[05:01] <fool2cool> there is no manual for courier there
[05:01] <stefg> Stormx2: wasn't meant as an insult, just a friendly hint... educate them while the bad habbit isn't curved in :-)
[05:01] <nate_02631> Ah well - guess I'll go without desktop URL shortcuts - boy really pisses me off when things "just break"....
[05:01] <`DaGuy> working mirrors "fr", "au", "ie", "nl"  - Okay to use?
[05:01] <Stormx2> fraroco: Ah. Yeah, like Bison said, repos are down...
[05:02] <dngldoof> orbin: but yeah, the servers are down.. so I quess I'll try to install 'em later
[05:02] <Ronz> is there an easy to convert FAT32 filesystem to ext2 without erasing the hard drive?
[05:02] <bigjb> any news on when they will be back
[05:02] <Stormx2> `DaGuy: They may work for some people but not for others!!
[05:02] <orbin> dngldoof: sure
[05:02] <`DaGuy> thx
[05:02] <bigjb> ah dns problem?
[05:02] <gnomefreak> bigjb: noone knows when they will be fixed
[05:02] <DarkAudit> mailing lists offline too?
[05:02] <papo> zsuzsi: did you try the solution posted as comment?
[05:02] <stefg> Ronz: don't do it, back everything up and rewrite
[05:02] <fool2cool> stormx2:i installed the courier docs but have no idea where they went
[05:02] <gnomefreak> DarkAudit: i d9oubt it
[05:02] <fraroco> Stormx2: I wanna know if this can be late."
[05:02] <zsuzsi> Stormx2, the problem is that gnome wouldn't load under kubuntu.
[05:03] <Ronz> ok, thanks stef. =)
[05:03] <Hexidigital_> DarkAudit::  afaik, mailing lists are offline also
[05:03] <wil`yum> my 'shared folders' applet stopped working. Is this a common failure? where to look?
[05:03] <javajazz> repos down. websites down. forums down.  is this war?
[05:03] <Stormx2> fool2cool: open synaptic package manager, locate courier. Properties. Look under "installed files", it should be in a path like .../doc....
[05:03] <Hexidigital_> DarkAudit::  but i'm just guessing
[05:03] <fool2cool> im doing all this over ssh
[05:03] <Stormx2> zsuzsi: When the repos are back, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[05:03] <Enverex> javajazz, No, it's called DNS breaking
[05:03] <fool2cool> so i have no gui
[05:03] <esc_ape> does anyone know how to open the configuration editor? whats the command called?
[05:04] <stefg> hconf-editor
[05:04] <sloncho> hi. how do i start text mode install. i do not want the graphical installer
[05:04] <ardchoille> esc_ape: gconf-editor
[05:04] <thirdalbum> esc_ape: gconf-editor
[05:04] <stefg> *gconf-editor
[05:04] <zsuzsi> papo, yes - i did try that, but that only fixes it temporarily: when i restart the computer or even the X server, it doesn't work again
[05:04] <fool2cool> Stormx2: is there any1 to do this as a command
[05:04] <Hexidigital_> zsuzsi::  do what Stormx2 said, but that my damage your KDE install
[05:04] <Stormx2> sloncho: Download the text-mode installer iso
[05:04] <cmug> fix...the...servers...cant...install...new...software.....argh
[05:04] <Ronz> one more thing...if i get the filesystem to ext2 or another linux based file system...will windows be able to read it?
[05:04] <cmug> i need my fix
[05:04] <javajazz> just hope my torrent continues.  i had it almost dwnloaded, edgyeft.
[05:04] <roe> is there a mirror for the wiki?
[05:04] <Stormx2> fool2cool: maybe, locate courier
[05:04] <sloncho> Stormx2: no other way, with boot option?
[05:04] <fool2cool> tried
[05:04] <^ohoel> Ronz: there should be programs for windows to do that
[05:04] <kbrooks> Ronz: with a driver, yes
[05:05] <Stormx2> fool2cool; Why not use synaptic?
[05:05] <Ronz> <3 thank ya!
[05:05] <kbrooks> ^ohoel: there are!
[05:05] <frogzoo> Ronz: there's a windows driver for ext2
[05:05] <zsuzsi> Stormx and Hexidigital_, i have actually done precisely that. the gnome splash screen comes up but afterwards the semi-loaded panels start flashing and it all freezes.
[05:05] <frogzoo> !ext2fs
[05:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about ext2fs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:05] <stefg> Ronz: not out of the box, but there's third party drivers available http://fs-driver.org/
[05:05] <fool2cool> bcos im controlling the server over ssh
[05:05] <DarkAudit> there are windows apps for ext2 and ext3... haven't used them in over a year, so I'd have to Google to find them again
[05:05] <Stormx2> explore2fs is the good one.
[05:06] <kbrooks> DarkAudit: Drivers, not apps
[05:06] <wil`yum> my 'shared folders' applet stopped working. Is this a common failure? where to look?
[05:06] <Fjodor> Has anyone tried building wine?
[05:06] <zazeem> how can i change my firefox and thunderbird icons with ones i downloaded?
[05:06] <Stormx2> Fjodor: Yes
[05:06] <Hexidigital_> zsuzsi::  sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop will delete the kde install, but keep the programs... remove --purge kubuntu-desktop will delete the config... aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop will delete the install completely
[05:06] <roe> what is the ubuntu room devoted to xgl
[05:06] <wil`yum> i have wine working on 5.10
[05:06] <recon0> Fjodor: Why build? Why not just use the package?
[05:06] <gnomefreak> roe: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:06] <frogzoo> roe: #ubuntu-xg
[05:06] <Fjodor> Stormx2: I get "configure: WARNING: FreeType is missing."
[05:06] <Hexidigital_> roe::  ubuntu-xgl
[05:06] <frogzoo> roe: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:06] <zazeem> how can i change my firefox and thunderbird icons with ones i downloaded?
[05:06] <roe> thanx
[05:07] <Fjodor> recon0: No packages for amd64
[05:07] <Stormx2> Hexidigital_: No it won't... kubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it just depends on all the kde componants...
[05:07] <recon0> Fjodor: point taken.
[05:07] <Stormx2> Hexidigital_: Removing it does nothing, as far as I know
[05:07] <frogzoo> Fjodor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[05:07] <Hexidigital_> Stormx2::  even through aptitude?
[05:07] <adaran> if i want to add an entry to the menu (creating custom .deb packages), how'd i do that? simply put a file into /usr/lib/menu ?
[05:07] <zsuzsi> Hexidigital_, i would like to have both GNOME and KDE on my computer, and decide at the login screen which session i want...
[05:07] <Stormx2> adaran: GNOME menu?
[05:07] <Fjodor> recon0: otherwise good point. And thanks :-)
[05:07] <n1gke> ip
[05:07] <Fjodor> frogzoo: Thanks
[05:08] <Stormx2> adaran: Oh, you're building a deb. Dunno.
[05:08] <zazeem> how can i change my firefox and thunderbird icons with ones i downloaded?
[05:08] <adaran> well, debian has update-menus
[05:08] <stefg> !info libfreetype6-dev > Fjodor
[05:08] <ubotu> libfreetype6-dev: FreeType 2 font engine, development files. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 661 kB, installed size 3336 kB
[05:08] <nate_02631> So when I get openwith to work with fire fox - by draggging in the desktop shortcut icon - it opens about 50 empty page - WTF?
[05:08] <Hexidigital_> zsuzsi::  if you aptitude --reinstall kubuntu-desktop, set kdm as default (i was able to select what desktop environment to use)
[05:08] <adaran> i'm sure ubuntu has something similiar
[05:08] <frogzoo> Fjodor: wine doesn't run on 64bit
[05:08] <Fjodor> stefg: Thanks. I have installed that, though
[05:08] <goatmale> zaxeem right click ;)
[05:08] <zazeem> right click and??
[05:08] <jumbers> Is archive.ubuntu.com down?
[05:08] <Enverex> frogzoo, Well, it does if you build it with 32bit libaries or such
[05:08] <Fjodor> frogzoo: Oh. To install in my chroot then
[05:08] <Stormx2> jumbers: /topic
[05:08] <jbroome> jumbers: TOPIC
[05:08] <Enverex> jumbers, Read the topic
[05:08] <Enverex> lol
[05:08] <javajazz> well since i can't work on edgy, i'll work on freespire.  can anybody tell me how to make a floppy boot disk for freespire?  i have it installed but beos bootloader can't do it.  i've googled everywhere.  maybe smartbootloader.
[05:08] <frogzoo> EvanCarroll: yep, you can 32bit chroot
[05:09] <zazeem> goatmale: then what
[05:09] <frogzoo> what's with tab today?
[05:09] <wheels3572> !edgy > wheels3572
[05:09] <wil`yum> i have wine working on 5.10
[05:09] <Enverex> frogzoo, Any idea what happened to Ubuntu? DNS issues, big upgrade or "someone hit the wrong button"? lol
[05:09] <wil`yum> my 'shared folders' applet stopped working. Is this a common failure? where to look?
[05:09] <zsuzsi> Hexidigital_, my kdm works perfectly, and I can select which environment to use - the only problem is that gnome doesn't finish loading. http://www.ubuntux.org/dapper-gnome-error explains the problem and it gives a solution, but that is only temporary. it seems the permanent solution is in the last post there, which says "flushed the settings cache", but i don't understand what that means! :(
[05:09] <frogzoo> Enverex: dns so we're told
[05:09] <Hexidigital_> Seveas::  we can't access the www.ubuntu.com/support page
[05:10] <jbroome> i'll be back when i can stop saying /topic every couple of minutes
[05:10] <wheels3572> !schedule > wheels3572
[05:10] <thnee> what repositories should i have, been a while since i used ubunutu, i dont recognize the security-updates or backports?
[05:10] <orbin> wil`yum: where's that applet located?
[05:10] <Hexidigital_> zsuzsi::  sorry, but i cannot view the page atm :(
[05:10] <Hexidigital_> zsuzsi::  the server is down
[05:10] <rsk> TOPIC
[05:10] <wil`yum> system administration
[05:10] <zsuzsi> oh, dont worry then :)
[05:10] <element> when I'm creating a second partition for my RAID1, do I create the second drive as primary or extended?
[05:10] <stefg> thnee: see !easysource, but be aware of /topic :-)
[05:11] <ardchoille> Seveas: Got time for a quick pm?
[05:11] <jackson> I just reinstalled (uninstalled using nvidia-installer --uninstall) my glx drivers 1.0-8756 but a glxinfo yields several lines of "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" and also "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" any ideas why?
[05:11] <Seveas> ardchoille, no
[05:11] <ardchoille> ok
[05:11] <zazeem> how do i change my firefox icons to the ones i dloaded?? anyone :(
[05:11] <thnee> stefg: be aware?
[05:11] <zsuzsi> on that webpage a person called meta4r explains: I am relieved that in addition to Ubuntu, I installed Kubuntu. My KDE desktop is more than useful, it is essential as last week's updates damaged my Gnome. Now when I log into Gnome the splash screen appears, does its thing, then the panels try to load.  The only control available is ctrl-alt-backspace.  If those keys are pressed while the panels are still flashing, the system returns me to the GDM login screen. If I wait until the panels stop flashing, ctrl-alt-backspace puts me at a login prompt in a shell. I have to then reboot to get back into GDM. Is this part of the reason the release date was moved back?
[05:11] <orbin> wil`yum: what happens?
[05:12] <OoberMick> zsuzsi: did you try, Go to user folder, show hidden files, rename .gonf .gconfd gnome gnome2 and gnome2_private, just add a .bak on to them. Log into gnome. Wala!
[05:12] <OoberMick> Okay, it works. Now back to K I go.
[05:12] <orbin> wil`yum: try running it thru terminal: gksu shares-admin
[05:12] <zsuzsi> i didn't get it with the update, i got it as i apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:12] <wil`yum> the panel comes up with everything grayed out and does nothing
[05:12] <stefg> thnee: you can tune your sources.list, but you might not be able to get packages, because repos are down atm
[05:12] <zsuzsi> yes, oobermick - but that only fixes it for the next login
[05:12] <kitsuneofdoom> US servers are still down?
[05:12] <Hexidigital_> zsuzsi::  something internal is wrong, imo, then
[05:12] <zsuzsi> i.e. it does not fix it permanently.
[05:12] <mikechml> the dapper install hangs on "configuring apt", what do i do?
[05:13] <Hexidigital_> mikechml::  read the topic, that explains all
[05:13] <Enverex> frogzoo, Do you know anything about Edgy?
[05:13] <nanomad> mikechml, try again later...
[05:13] <mikechml> ah
[05:13] <frogzoo> Enverex: not really
[05:13] <jkelly2005> is anyone having trouble updating ubuntu? archive.ubuntu.com seems to be down.
[05:13] <stefg> edgy in #ubuntu+1
[05:13] <kitsuneofdoom> jkelly2005: it is
[05:13] <adaran> jkelly2005, TOPIC
[05:13] <adaran> =)
[05:13] <gnomefreak> jkelly2005: read the /topic
[05:13] <jkelly2005> oh, i see
[05:13] <Enverex> hmm, does anyone here know anything about Edgy?
[05:13] <Hexidigital_> mikechml::  keep it where it is, and wait util the servers are back up if you can
[05:13] <Enverex> stefg, Oh, that's actually a channel?
[05:13] <gnomefreak> Enverex: join #ubuntu+1
[05:13] <frogzoo> Enverex: you could try #ubuntu+1
[05:13] <Enverex> Thanks
[05:13] <zer01> ah, not just me then
[05:14] <javajazz> i am running edgy now.
[05:14] <Seveas> sigh
[05:14] <sloncho> how do i start text mode install. i do not want the graphical installer
[05:14] <nanomad> Enverex, what do you want to know ?(#ubuntu+1 is more adequate)
[05:14] <fraroco> hello the rep has come?
[05:14] <Seveas> even the entrymsg says that things are down
[05:14] <Seveas> AND STILL PEOPLE ASK
[05:14] <nanomad> sloncho, d/l alternate cd
[05:14] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:14] <Hexidigital_> heh
[05:14] <mikechml> what would come after apt in the install?
[05:14] <jackson> I just reinstalled (uninstalled using nvidia-installer --uninstall) my glx drivers 1.0-8756 but a glxinfo yields several lines of "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" and also "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" any ideas why?
[05:14] <stefg> sloncho: by using the 'alternate' install CD
[05:14] <nanomad> Seveas, almost no one reads it
[05:14] <wheels3572> Can someone help me with an issue I am getting the Xubuntu login screen but getting the regular ubuntu when it loads up.  How can I make it one or the other.  I prefer to use Ubuntu itself though for right now
[05:15] <Enverex> nanomad, I keep hearing about Edgy being "truely 32bit and 64bit at the same time" i.e. able to run the things that don't run on current 64bit Ubuntu, is that true? If so, how?
[05:15] <profoX`> Seveas: sorry to bother.. but whats wrong ?
[05:15] <Fjodor> Seveas: I must confess I didn't see it either. I autojoin the channel, and go to the tab when needed...
[05:15] <profoX`> Enverex: i think multilib
[05:15] <nanomad> Enverex, dunno..lol (32bit user here)
[05:15] <papo> can anyone explain me the file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades ?
[05:15] <sloncho> 10x guys, not exactly what i needed, but ...
[05:15] <sloncho> i guess there is a bott param option, which overrides the GUI
[05:16] <narfnastier> bott param?
[05:16] <sloncho> is it just me, or wiki pages are down?
[05:16] <Hexidigital_> sloncho::  read the topic
[05:16] <mikechml> lots of things are down
[05:16] <sloncho> bott=boot
[05:16] <rsk> sloncho: topic
[05:16] <goatmale> How can I always view hidden files or... make a file never hidden?
[05:16] <MarsRouter> hi
[05:16] <javajazz> everything ubuntu is down.
[05:16] <visik7> sloncho: almost all ubuntu sites are down
[05:16] <MarsRouter> any one can help me to make bridge connection?
[05:17] <jleedev> goatmale: list the file you want in .hidden in that folder. there's no way to "unhide" a dotfile
[05:17] <goatmale> something I unzipped
[05:17] <zsuzsi> hmm, i think i might try #gnome. thanks anyway for the help :)
[05:17] <kozlojak> how to i change the number of colors in ubunto(gnome) ?
[05:18] <profoX`> kozlojak: you mean X ?
[05:18] <ardchoille> goatmale: To view hidden files in nautilus, go to Edit -> Preferences -> View tab and look under the Default view section. To make a hidden file no longer hidden, remove the "." from the beginning of the filename.
[05:18] <frogzoo> kozlojak: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:19] <STrRedWolf> Ahhh, good.
[05:19] <frogzoo> MarsRouter: install pkg bridge-utils
[05:19] <kitsuneofdoom> how would one change the boot splashscreen
[05:19] <goatmale> ard will it always show hidden files now?
[05:19] <gnomefreak> !usplash > kitsuneofdoom
[05:19] <frogzoo> kitsuneofdoom: the grub splash or gnome splash?
[05:20] <omac> I tried going to the us.archive, ca.archive, en.archive, za.archive...they all work but the dapper-security repositories don't work from any of the including security.ubuntu.com
[05:20] <kozlojak> profoX` yes X
[05:20] <SonicChao> I need to remove the Microsoft fonts, I needed them for a little while, but now I don't need them. I treid "gksudo nautilus" and went to "fonts://" and removed them, but they are back again. I also did "sudo apt-get remove msttcorefonts", but the fonts are still there. And it gave me a warning message.
[05:20] <gnomefreak> omac: read the /topic
[05:20] <kitsuneofdoom> after grub...although a grub splash would be cool
[05:20] <gnomefreak> kitsuneofdoom: read your pm
[05:20] <kitsuneofdoom> k
[05:20] <profoX`> kozlojak: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to reconfigure X, or to only change the colors, just edit the file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the DefaultDepth and Depth settings
[05:21] <frogzoo> kitsuneofdoom: read the usplash from ubotu, for grub, you need to convert the file to 16 color xpm.gz - google for grub splash, using imagemagick works best
[05:21] <irvin> Seveas, can you make ubotu send a pm that services are down to anyone who joins?
[05:21] <Seveas> irvin, chanserv already does that
[05:21] <Seveas> no one reads
[05:21] <irvin> ohhh
[05:21] <Keldon> i do
[05:21] <irvin> :)
[05:22] <Seveas> irvin, so I resorted to kicking
[05:22] <Keldon> good idea :D
[05:22] <ompaul> Seveas, I put in the other one to stop people talking I had considered muting
[05:22] <NeoNmaN> sombardy use mac iBook G4
[05:22] <Keldon> that's so mean :(
[05:22] <kozlojak> profoX` should the color depth be higher then 24 ?
[05:22] <Seveas> !somebody > NeoNmaN
[05:22] <omac> I read the topic but I wanted the community to know my experience.  I didn't merit the kick IMHO.
[05:22] <profoX`> kozlojak: no 24 = 24bit, thats the highest
[05:23] <wayward> so what has caused all the fuss?
[05:23] <wayward> same fate as Debian's devel server? :D
[05:23] <gnomefreak> omac: everyone knows it is being worked on no need to let us know what we tell you
[05:23] <kozlojak> profoX`ok, thanks
[05:23] <Seveas> wayward, no
[05:23] <Awesome-o2000> omac, bit of advice, licky thy wounds and move on
[05:23] <profoX`> kozlojak: 16bit or 8bit i guess, but i have only used 24 and 16
[05:24] <NeoNmaN> Does anyone know about iBook G4 Spaces?
[05:24] <mikechml> yay, the install continued
[05:24] <frogzoo> NeoNmaN: pm google
[05:24] <profoX`> kozlojak: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth
[05:24] <LeeJunFan> must be the tubes are full again, it'll be another 5 days before I get that internet someone sent me because someone must have been downloading a video from youtube. :p
[05:24] <NeoNmaN> frogzoo, so funny, i hav try it bot i can't fint it
[05:25] <SonicChao> Why is Firefox still loading Microsoft fonts after I deleted the package "msttcorefonts" with "sudo apt-get remove msttcorefonts"????????
[05:25] <Vissud> damn, Ted Stevens was right!
[05:25] <Awesome-o2000> LeeJunFan, used up your quota?
[05:25] <wayward> was FF running while you removed the fonts, SonicChao
[05:25] <Awesome-o2000> SonicChao, part of the website perhaps? didnt shut down firefox?
[05:25] <SonicChao> wayward: Yes, but I restarted it a couple times
[05:26] <wayward> ah ha
[05:26] <patter> might need to refresh the fontpath - xset fp rehash
[05:26] <wayward> I bet FF uses X fonts
[05:26] <wayward> try xset fp rehash
[05:26] <SonicChao> In terminal? ok.
[05:26] <Awesome-o2000> is there a poker game for ubuntu?
[05:26] <wil`yum> kpoker
[05:27] <javajazz> i have xubuntu on edgy here. adesklets works.  But on a friends laptop xubuntu dapper is installed and adesklets only will work with sudo?
[05:27] <wil`yum> you can get it when the servers come back up
[05:27] <SonicChao> No. It's still loading MSfonts.
[05:27] <shriphani> why does gwget run slow ?
[05:27] <halitech> ok, guess no need to ask why I can't get into the forum
[05:27] <wayward> does it complain about them, SonicChao?
[05:27] <jackson> I just reinstalled (uninstalled using nvidia-installer --uninstall) my glx drivers 1.0-8756 but a glxinfo yields several lines of "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" and also "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" any ideas why?
[05:27] <gnomefreak> halitech: no
[05:27] <shriphani> in xfce that is
[05:27] <XiXaQ> halitech, problems with the server centre...
[05:27] <wayward> jackson, AMD64?
[05:27] <jackson> wayward: yeah but I'm using a 32bit kernel
[05:27] <halitech> I know, read that in the topic header
[05:28] <usam1> hi all
[05:28] <SonicChao> wayward: No. I did the command and the terminal returned it to me with no message
[05:28] <Vissud> their data center isn't in Queenes is it? :)
[05:28] <Seveas> *FINALLY SOMEONE READ IT*
[05:28] <usam1> how can i creat a live bookmark for lxer (webste)?
[05:28] <gnomefreak> ;)
[05:28] <SonicChao> wayward: Then I opened Firefox and the MSFonts are still ther. With no compaints
[05:28] <wil`yum> vissud... maybe beruit
[05:28] <Falc> I've installed Ubuntu and I want to switch to Xubunu without downloading a new CD image?
[05:28] <Falc> Is thi spossible?
[05:28] <wayward> jackson, I hope you don't have an ATI card
[05:28] <jackson> Falc: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:28] <Seveas> Falc, install the xubuntu-desktop package
[05:28] <Seveas> !search desktop
[05:28] <ubotu> Found: lts, ubuntu-desktop, desktops, vnc, kubuntu, documentation, icons, kde, dvd, gdesklets (and 11 more)
[05:28] <jackson> wayward: no haha
[05:28] <Seveas> !desktops
[05:28] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[05:29] <wayward> SonicChao, that's weird.  Probably cached them somewhere.
[05:29] <Falc> Do I need to remove Gnome?
[05:29] <halitech> ~L~ Seveas, I usually try to find out for myself first so I usually read before sticking my foot in my mouth ~L~
[05:29] <patter> well, found what I wanted
[05:29] <ompaul> what is the tool for creating scripts in rc.2 and so on? (I have the script)
[05:29] <Seveas> Falc, no
[05:29] <SonicChao> wayward: Where could they be cached?
[05:29] <Seveas> ompaul, update-rc.d
[05:29] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks
[05:29] <Enverex> Falc, Just install XFCE with Synaptic
[05:29] <wayward> I think it was rcupdate or similar, ompaul
[05:29] <orbin> usam1: go to it, then click on the orange thing in the url bar
[05:29] <Daver2u> Is there a problem with the repositories
[05:29] <jackson> wayward: I'm using GNOME right now with the drivers but I can't launch any programs that use glx (not even glxgears)
[05:29] <Daver2u> ?
[05:29] <wayward> update-rc.d
[05:29] <Falc> Okay. Thanks for all your help;.
[05:29] <gnomefreak> Enverex: no its install xubuntu-desktop
[05:29] <Enverex> Daver2u, Read the topic
[05:30] <wil`yum> would a different channel be more appropriate for my question?
[05:30] <Enverex> gnomefreak, You don't need ALL that really
[05:30] <usam1> orbin: lemme check
[05:30] <Seveas> wil`yum, depends on the question
[05:30] <wil`yum> my 'shared folders' applet stopped working. Is this a common failure? where to look?
[05:30] <shriphani> guys will gwge download slower in xfce ?
[05:30] <Enverex> jackson, Error?
[05:30] <gnomefreak> Enverex: a new user shouldnt have to look and install each app that he _needs_ by hand
[05:30] <kitsuneofdoom> I have the same problem with glx, I think it's due to the lack of an acellerated driver
[05:30] <wayward> jackson, check the X logs at /var/log/Xorg.*.log, seek the latest one
[05:31] <Enverex> gnomefreak, True, I thought it would pull in the deps for XFCE by hand though
[05:31] <wayward> then find lines starting with [EE]
[05:31] <wayward> that should give you more data
[05:31] <shaya> is evreything ubuntu down?
[05:31] <XiXaQ> Seveas, hey, that was one nice smiley :) How did you get that?
[05:31] <gnomefreak> Enverex: it pulls in very little
[05:31] <jackson> Enverex: glxgears returns "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:31] <jackson> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual" other programs launched via GUI just close
[05:31] <kitsuneofdoom> shaya: look up/down/wherever the topic is
[05:31] <ACU> greetings - anyone can help with a hint of what is the best open source GUI for apache server in linux ?
[05:31] <Seveas> !  > XiXaQ
[05:31] <wayward> Seveas is using kana :)
[05:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about   - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:31] <Enverex> gnomefreak, Well it would be enough for XFCE to wor...
[05:31] <Enverex> *k
[05:31] <usam1> orbin: thanks a lot
[05:31] <jackson> wayward: you want me to pastebin it?
[05:31] <orbin> usam1: yw
[05:31] <wayward> yeah, PM me
[05:31] <dr_willis> acu - i would check freshmeat.net -
[05:31] <shriphani> would gwget download slower in xfce ?
[05:32] <shachaf> !  > shachaf
[05:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about   - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:32] <wayward>  is a kana symbol
[05:32] <Seveas> !offtopic
[05:32] <wayward> I think katakana
[05:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:32] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks  - my mind wend blank and it is not somehting I do on a daily basis
[05:32] <roe> http://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu/
[05:32] <jackson> wayward: I'm kind of an IRC noob. how to I PM?
[05:32] <roe> works
[05:32] <roe> but they don't do security
[05:32] <shriphani> Seveas, will gwget download slower on xfce?
[05:32] <wayward> jackson, do a /msg wayward
[05:33] <Seveas> shriphani, no
[05:33] <wil`yum> maybe i should come back later when you don't have to read the topic for half the people here
[05:33] <wil`yum> thanks
[05:33] <gnomefreak> gwget will be same on any DE you use it
[05:33] <wayward> or double-click me in the list if you use GAIM
[05:33] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[05:33] <Seveas> !it
[05:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:33] <webben> are the repositories down atm ?
[05:33] <amadeo1988> Hi, Can someone direct me to a emule alternative for ubuntu?
[05:33] <Seveas> amadeo1988, amule
[05:33] <wayward> amadeo1988: aMule
[05:33] <GaiaX11> Hi guys is there any channel in this server for electric engineer issues?
[05:34] <XiXaQ> GaiaX11, /list ?
[05:34] <amadeo1988> Thanks but i heard of another one also call i think maybe llmule?
[05:34] <amadeo1988> i was more interested in that since, my friend uses it
[05:34] <frogzoo> amadeo1988: amule dude
[05:34] <amadeo1988> but i cant contact him atm to find out what it was called exactly
[05:34] <wayward> amadeo1988, have you tried description-search in Synaptic, keyword "emule"?
[05:34] <amadeo1988> hmm nope
[05:35] <amadeo1988> how would i do that wayward
[05:35] <amadeo1988> im new to ubuntu
[05:35] <wayward> hit the Search button, then make sure you have "Description and Name"
[05:35] <The_Jack_of_Club> seems like theres more than repos down right now
[05:35] <wayward> in the option box
[05:35] <wayward> yeah, forums are down
[05:35] <XiXaQ> amadeo1988, if your friend uses it, perhaps you should ask him to tell you its name?
[05:35] <frogzoo> The_Jack_of_Club: forums too if I'm not mistaken
[05:35] <codecaine> wheres is apache2 index.html so I can make a page?
[05:35] <Seveas> codecaine, /var/www
[05:35] <MarsRouter> hi any one can help me to create network bridge
[05:35] <gnomefreak> TheMoebius: everything that runs on ubuntu servers is down
[05:35] <amadeo1988> i can't contact him at the moment
[05:35] <amadeo1988> thats why i asked
[05:35] <Mewshi> anyone here like catgirls?
[05:35] <The_Jack_of_Club> ouch :P
[05:35] <wayward> codecaine, depends how you set up your apache.conf/httpd.cond :)
[05:36] <wayward> httpd.conf*
[05:36] <Enverex> amadeo1988, Just search for "mule"
[05:36] <gnomefreak> The_Jack_of_Club: read teh /topic
[05:36] <The_Jack_of_Club> indeed
[05:36] <frogzoo> MarsRouter: did you install bridge-utils ? then just bridge your nics, done
[05:36] <XiXaQ> amadeo1988, they should be compatible anyway.
[05:36] <The_Jack_of_Club> thanks for the sapart serveas :P
[05:36] <MarsRouter> frogzoo: ok
[05:36] <wayward> aMule is okayish
[05:37] <GaiaX11> XiXaQ: /list *electric engineer*  ???!!!
[05:37] <XiXaQ> amadeo1988, perhaps you're thinking of  mldonkey?
[05:37] <amadeo1988> maybe
[05:37] <gnuts> hi all,  had to fsck a drive, and the lost+found folder contains only one file, #7208961, of an unknown type. Can I recover data?
[05:37] <usam1> can i track user "usama" on the irc? how can i contact him?
[05:37] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:38] <wayward> gnuts, is that ext2 or ext3
[05:38] <GaiaX11> gnomefreak: Great! Thanks!
[05:38] <wayward> I think ext2 :)
[05:38] <gnuts> wayward, it is an ext2 drive
[05:38] <frogzoo> gnuts: just the one file? well put it back where it came from then...
[05:38] <wayward> that would be a fragment from some file, most likely
[05:38] <gnuts> It wasn't a file I had before
[05:38] <wayward> probably a truncated ending
[05:38] <wayward> or something in the middle
[05:38] <codecaine> I don't see anything like shows where the index.html would be in the conf file
[05:39] <wayward> anyway, it's not neccesarily a whole file
[05:39] <codecaine> when I got to /www/var I see index. but that have weird extensions
[05:39] <dr_willis> weird?
[05:39] <frogzoo> codecaine: wierd, like .php ?
[05:39] <codecaine> .es
[05:39] <gnuts> once, for a moment the folder contained a bunch of mp3's and stuff, now it just shows #7208961
[05:39] <codecaine> .en
[05:39] <usam1> sorry go dc, now can anyone tel me that how can i contact to user "usama"?
[05:39] <gnomefreak> codecaine: those are languages
[05:39] <codecaine> .ca etc
[05:39] <frogzoo> codecaine: translations dude
[05:40] <amadeo1988> I have a question, When i installed ubuntu at first i could see my other ntfs partitions in the places > computer, but due to mounting issues i was told to change the mount place and now they dont appear there. How do i make my ntfs paritions appear there now? atm the only thing that appears there is CD/DVD Rom, Floppydisk, Filesystems
[05:40] <gnomefreak> usam1: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or #freenode-social
[05:40] <frogzoo> usam1: lol
[05:40] <troy1of2> Just out of curiosity, why isn't the firefox logo used by default when you install Ubuntu. I figure it must be because of some licensing thing or something but was curious if that's right or not. So what's the low down?
[05:40] <Seveas> troy1of2, mozilla trademark prevents it
[05:41] <troy1of2> Ah, I see.
[05:41] <amadeo1988> so far noone has been able to help me with that problem.. guess no one can
[05:41] <SonicChao> wayward: I got it fixed
[05:41] <MarsRouter> frogzoo: when bridge is created will there only interface br0??
[05:41] <wayward> SonicChao, cool
[05:42] <jrib> amadeo1988: where is your ntfs partition mounted?
[05:42] <SonicChao> wayward: 'Verdana' was hiding in /usr/share/fonts
[05:42] <orbin> amadeo1988: iirc, mount it in /media and it will show up there
[05:42] <frogzoo> MarsRouter: no, there'll be eth0/eth1 connected to br0
[05:42] <wayward> amadeo1988: I'm not quite sure how Ubuntu handles those dirs.  I think whatever is under /media will be accesible.
[05:42] <amadeo1988> /mnt/hda5
[05:42] <amadeo1988> etc
[05:42] <Enverex> How do you apply a .diff file?
[05:42] <ryan_naruto> how can i install video codecs my mplayer cant play avi files
[05:42] <jrib> Enverex: patch
[05:42] <s_spiff> hey wiki and repos not working opr something?
[05:42] <inazad_> Hi there, my WiFi' card it's not detected by my computer.. but yesterday, it was.. I have edited the file "/etc/network/interfaces" and now... How I can fix thi s?
[05:42] <Seveas> Enverex, patch < file.diff
[05:42] <MarsRouter> frogzoo: ok
[05:42] <amadeo1988> iirc ?
[05:42] <jackson> wayward: http://www.copypot.com/236 that's my /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:42] <jrib> !w32codecs > ryan_naruto
[05:42] <SonicChao> s_spiff: the repos are down
[05:43] <orbin> amadeo1988: if i remember correctly
[05:43] <SonicChao> s_spiff: And the wiki is also down
[05:43] <wayward> jackson: I'll give it a look
[05:43] <jackson> wayward: thanks a lot
[05:43] <jrib> amadeo1988: I was going to suggest what orbin told you, also I think you may need to use the 'user' option in your fstab line (in case just mounting in /media doesn't work by itself)
[05:43] <The_Jack_of_Club> you mind maybe stop kicking people and start talking to them first?
[05:43] <ryan_naruto> would i type sudo apt-get install !w32codecs
[05:44] <goonies> ahhh i need the forums
[05:44] <troy1of2> Well, here's something that happened to me this morning.  I have a partition which I just got working right thanks to some guys in here helping me out yesterday. So I decided I wanted to put a link to it on my desktop so I could go straight to it whenever I wanted. Well, this morning I try to put some other links on the desktop to subdirectories under that one and it won't let me. So,
[05:44] <goonies> lol
[05:44] <codecaine> :/
[05:44] <SonicChao> ryan_naruto: No, loose the !
[05:44] <Seveas> The_Jack_of_Club, only kicks seem to get their attention
[05:44] <s_spiff> ok, sorry man, i was in the channel for the past 4 or more hours, i didnt notice the channel subject.
[05:44] <jrib> ryan_naruto: no, what I wrote just makes ubotu send you a private message with info on how to get them
[05:44] <kbrosnan> troy1of2, well if ubuntu were to ship unmodified binaries of firefox then it would be less of an issue, but then there would still be the question of wether the licence on the logo is too restrictive
[05:44] <wayward> jackson: I see that GLX loads fine but fails to initialize.  Is your NVdriver module loaded in the kernel?
[05:44] <SonicChao> ryan_naruto: It would just be sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[05:44] <ryan_naruto> ok.. thanks
[05:44] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: w32codecs are not in repos
[05:44] <jackson> wayward: I have no idea =/
[05:44] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[05:44] <amadeo1988> kk thanks
[05:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:44] <jkelly2005> does anyone know if there is a xgl irc channel?
[05:45] <gnomefreak> ^^^ please read
[05:45] <Seveas> !xgl
[05:45] <SonicChao> !info w32codecs
[05:45] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in dapper
[05:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:45] <steri> anyone have troubles with security.ubuntu.org?
[05:45] <SonicChao> :(
[05:45] <amadeo1988> how do make shortcuts to folders on my desktop or how do i make shortcuts to programs?
[05:45] <wayward> SonicChao: get them at mplayerHQ.hu
[05:45] <Ronz> read topic, steri
[05:45] <frogzoo> bye Steil
[05:45] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: your right
[05:45] <jrib> amadeo1988: right click > create launcher
[05:45] <frogzoo> wow - that was quick
[05:45] <Seveas> !info w32codecs dapper-seveas
[05:45] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In repository Seveas, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:45] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: its not free software
[05:45] <mspreij> this is a spectator sport :-)
[05:45] <ryan_naruto> thanks !<SonicChao>
[05:45] <wayward> jackson: do this:  sudo lsmod|grep NVdriver
[05:45] <Rinux> all screen resolutions except 640*480 are blacked out, but I know there are more
[05:45] <amadeo1988> it doesnt work for me
[05:45] <inazad_> Hi there, my WiFi' card it's not detected by my computer.. but yesterday, it was.. I have edited the file "/etc/network/interfaces" and now... How I can fix thi s?
[05:45] <Ronz> you can also use libxine-extracodecs instead of w32
[05:46] <ryan_naruto> thanks !SonicChao
[05:46] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: Ahh...ok...I downloaded it for free though.
[05:46] <SonicChao> ryan_naruto: no need to use an 1
[05:46] <SonicChao> !*
[05:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about * - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:46] <jackson> wayward: returned nothing. glxinfo still bad
[05:46] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: its free to download not free to use
[05:46] <amadeo1988> jrib: i did that for my shortcut to get wine to run world of warcraft and it wont work
[05:46] <ryan_naruto> how do you send private msg hehe am not a irc chatter
[05:46] <wayward> jackson: okay, then do this:  sudo modprobe NVdriver
[05:46] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: think closed source
[05:46] <wayward> jackson: if you get no output, then it's ok
[05:46] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: Oh, ok.
[05:46] <Seveas> ryan_naruto, /msg nickname message
[05:46] <Rinux> /msg <nick> <message>
[05:46] <ryan_naruto> like what ur doing it appears red on my screen
[05:46] <sioux> hi
[05:46] <jrib> amadeo1988: what command did you use?
[05:46] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: I usually listen to OGG. ;)
[05:47] <The_Jack_of_Club> you have to register with the freenode server first
[05:47] <jackson> wayward: "FATAL: Module NVdriver not found."
[05:47] <amadeo1988> i made a shortcut with ine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/WoW.exe in it.. and it didnt run it but if i ran that in terminal it runs fine
[05:47] <frogzoo> amadeo1988: what's the problem with wow?
[05:47] <amadeo1988> wine*
[05:47] <ryan_naruto> thanks you all.. have a pleasant evening
[05:47] <wayward> ** NVidia users: NV proprietary module's name is NVdriver.ko, right? **
[05:47] <Rinux> how do you add more screen resolutions?
[05:47] <Ronz> later ryan_naruto
[05:47] <amadeo1988> no wow runs fine, if run it with wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/WoW.exe in terminal but i want to create a shortcut on my desktop and it wont work
[05:47] <gnomefreak> !fixres > Rinux
[05:47] <Rinux> the only choice is 640*480
[05:47] <bobbyd> wayward: nvidia
[05:47] <jrib> amadeo1988: try give the full path to wine
[05:47] <gnomefreak> Rinux: read your pm
[05:47] <Ronz> Rinux: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[05:48] <wayward> bobbyd: thanks
[05:48] <zalmoxes> what is the maximum number of half-open tcp/ip connections?
[05:48] <frogzoo> amadeo1988: like this: wine "D:\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe"
[05:48] <jrib> amadeo1988: s/give/giving
[05:48] <wayward> jakson: try sudo modprobe nvidia :)
[05:48] <Rinux> thanks gnomefreak
[05:48] <cmug> what kernel is in the dapper live dvd? also what is the vmlinux-* called?
[05:48] <khoda> hey are the mirrors still down?
[05:48] <aeth> yep
[05:48] <sioux> hi I have some problem with splashy at the boot i get this error xml_parser_text_handler who know something about it
[05:48] <frogzoo> amadeo1988: the app expects a dos path, not nix
[05:48] <linuxuser> ubuntu has been slipping lately
[05:48] <ryan_naruto> there is no w32codecs
[05:48] <bobbyd> sioux: google that error
[05:48] <amadeo1988> alright thanks ill try that
[05:48] <jrib> ryan_naruto: did you read the message from ubotu?
[05:48] <wayward> ...I still find nvidia much more logical than fglrx.
[05:48] <linuxuser> getting sloppy
[05:49] <sioux> bobby google diden't help me
[05:49] <linuxuser> dapper is still somewhat buggy
[05:49] <khoda> is there anyway around the servers being down? i was reinstalling and now grub is messed up and i cant get into windoze.
[05:49] <ryan_naruto> not yet its my 5th day using ubuntu im noob...
[05:49] <zazeem> i need hep
[05:49] <bobbyd> linuxuser: in what sense?
[05:49] <amadeo1988> didnt work i got an error
[05:49] <zalmoxes> what is the maximum number of half-open tcp/ip connections?
[05:49] <amadeo1988> want me to paste it?
[05:49] <zazeem> whats the command to see running processes
[05:49] <Seveas> khoda, you could try se.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:49] <wayward> jackson: sudo modprobe nvidia;  then you will have to restart your X server
[05:49] <Seveas> zazeem, ps or top
[05:49] <jrib> zazeem: top, ps
[05:49] <linuxuser> ehhh it seems to get hosed easier than breezy
[05:49] <bobbyd> zalmoxes: please don't repeat
[05:49] <khoda> Seveas: whats that?
[05:49] <jackson> wayward: all right I'll try that. thanks
[05:49] <Seveas> zazeem, or install htop for a prettier version of top
[05:49] <jrib> ryan_naruto: are you using xchat?
[05:49] <khoda> Seveas: (first time user)
[05:49] <zazeem> thnx
[05:49] <linuxuser> im not a devleoper, but ive had more problems with dapper than breezy
[05:50] <bobbyd> linuxuser: ok, that's rather vague :)
[05:50] <linuxuser> ya i know , sorry
[05:50] <frogzoo> linuxuser: breezy's had 6months to mature
[05:50] <bobbyd> linuxuser: also, you could use breezy :)
[05:50] <linuxuser> and i install lots of proprietary software
[05:50] <khoda> is there anyway around the servers being down? i was reinstalling and now grub is messed up and i cant get into windoze.
[05:50] <wayward> lol what luck
[05:50] <linuxuser> and thats where most of the trouble seems to be unfortunately
[05:51] <Ronz> you should be able to do an offline install, khoda
[05:51] <_rp> i heard repeating helps
[05:51] <khoda> Ronz: how do i do that
[05:51] <dharma> is there any mirror I can use to install packages??
[05:51] <jackson> wayward: didn't work :(
[05:51] <shriphani> guysy are downloads in gwget slower than usual ?
[05:51] <sioux> hey people what's happening with ubuntuforums and drapper repos? seems are down
[05:51] <frogzoo> bye sioux
[05:51] <_rp> topiccccccc
[05:51] <Ronz> khoda, when you go to install dapper...just unplug your network cable. the CD will realize that your not online, and wont update the packages through the net
[05:51] <sioux> bye frogzoo
[05:52] <bobbyd> linuxuser: well, the ubuntu guys can't really help with propietary software. But it's probably just because that kind of thing lags behind the latest kernels and drivers, so after a while it'll probably catch up
[05:52] <spartas> sioux: they're down
[05:52] <wayward> jackson: I can't think of anything but a reboot :)
[05:52] <frogzoo> sioux: read the topic dude
[05:52] <wayward> jackson: if it still doesn't work, then at least you know you have a problem
[05:52] <rinux> can you have ubotu pm me the message again
[05:52] <JDredd> there is an interdependency between g++-4.0 and libstdc++6-4.0-dev. I am installing offline (without synaptic) so is there a program or method to solve this?
[05:52] <rinux> I restarted x and am now in text mode
[05:52] <frogzoo> rinux: you could scroll up
[05:52] <rinux> no
[05:52] <wayward> jackson: you an also try updating your NVidia drivers
[05:52] <rinux> that's in xchat
[05:52] <sioux> frogzoo jap :-)
[05:52] <Seveas> JDredd, yes, install both.
[05:52] <linuxuser> but its still the best linux distro imho :)
[05:52] <linuxuser> as far as ease of use
[05:52] <rinux> I don't have a gui
[05:52] <wayward> jackson: debugging X/proprietary drivers/GLX is a mess
[05:53] <rinux> 0_o
[05:53] <zazeem> hmm i cant download the htop package has a link error
[05:53] <rinux> I'm runnning irssi
[05:53] <javajazz> maybe it would help if topic was not confined to a one line space at the top of xchat
[05:53] <sioux> who knows splashy? i have parsing problems
[05:53] <sobersabre> hi, is there a problem with ubuntu.com ?
[05:53] <mimithebrain> yes me
[05:53] <linuxuser> have i been disconnected
[05:53] <rinux> how do you start x?
[05:53] <linuxuser> ?
[05:53] <jrib> SonicChao: /topic
[05:53] <mimithebrain> startx
[05:53] <jrib> oops
[05:53] <JDredd> Seveas, I'm using gdebi 0.1.4, how do I open two packages at once?
[05:53] <linuxuser> no text scrolling by
[05:53] <zazeem> is ubuntu archive dead
[05:53] <wayward> ubuntu.com Is Having a Massage.
[05:53] <mimithebrain> dpkg -i packageone packagetwo
[05:53] <ryan_naruto> i hate my comp its too slow...
[05:53] <SonicChao> jrib: ???
[05:53] <shriphani> unfortunately a download via firefox is hitting 25 kbps while one thru gwget is slogging at 3 kbps :(
[05:54] <linuxuser> ok there it is
[05:54] <bobbyd> linuxuser: no
[05:54] <zalmoxes> how do i increase the maximum number of allowed half-open tcp/ip connections?
[05:54] <Seveas> JDredd, not. try dpkg
[05:54] <spartas> will i royally break my lcd monitor if i plug in my tv tuner card to it via s-video with an incorrect modeline?
[05:54] <sobersabre> Seveas :)
[05:54] <Seveas> sudo dpkg -i filea.deb fileb.deb
[05:54] <The_Jack_of_Club> i think people are interested in "why?" not as much as "is?"
[05:54] <rinux> whatever
[05:54] <jrib> SonicChao: "oops" sorry :P
[05:54] <wayward> shriphani: sounds like a proxy issue
[05:54] <ryan_naruto> is p3 500 256mb ram enough to make ubuntu run nicely
[05:54] <JDredd> Seveas, ah ok, thanks
[05:54] <mimithebrain> spartas: yeah
[05:54] <shriphani> wayward, i dont use a proxy
[05:54] <SonicChao> jrib: Ok. :P
[05:54] <shriphani> and gwget is configured to use my direct internet connection
[05:54] <frogzoo> ryan_naruto: maybe try xfce instead of gnome
[05:54] <sobersabre> Seveas is this an attack or malfunction ?
[05:54] <bobbyd> ryan_naruto: it'll run :)
[05:54] <The_Jack_of_Club> ryan_naruto it will run fine on that
[05:55] <wayward> shriphani: apologies
[05:55] <mimithebrain> haha ->
[05:55] <mimithebrain> "ChanServ: (notice) [#ubuntu]  Many ubuntu services are down - people are working to restore them - DO NOT ASK, we don't know more"
[05:55] <Seveas> sobersabre, malfunction
[05:55] <spartas> mimithebrain, thanks (I can't find the correct modeline for my monitor; it's relatively new)
[05:55] <sobersabre> routers, routers...
[05:55] <fredsa> hi guys
[05:55] <shriphani> wayward, why exactly and apology ?
[05:55] <mimithebrain> spartas: there is a modeline generator online available... you can google it
[05:55] <wayward> shriphani: for giving a wrong advice
[05:55] <fredsa> is it ok to re-attach a heat sink to a cpu or is it a bad idea?
[05:55] <spartas> thanks mimithebrain
[05:55] <mimithebrain> spartas: some don't require a modeline either, EDID will take care of it
[05:55] <shriphani> wayward, no probs :)
[05:56] <wayward> :)
[05:56] <zalmoxes> ryan_naruto: itll run
[05:56] <shriphani> although that has ruined the purpose of a download manager in a big way
[05:56] <frogzoo> fredsa: it's actually required...& use some thermal paste
[05:56] <khoda> Hey - After I install the Alternate CD offline, will I be able to get any packages to continue the install or do I have to wait till the servers are back?
[05:56] <ttyfscker> whats something good besides k3b to burn dvd/cd iso, audio (mp3/ogg), and other types of cds?
[05:56] <ryan_naruto> yeah ive left gnome deskktop im using xfce but its still quite slow.. I'm copying and my comp is slow i even type without seing what im typing this is like my old 386 compyuter
[05:56] <Seveas> khoda, you don't need to be online to install Ubuntu
[05:56] <fredsa> frogzoo, why is it required?
[05:56] <Tommy2k4> how do i reinstall i810 video driver
[05:56] <fredl> Hi, I narrowed down a problem I was having regarding ATI fglrx drivers...
[05:56] <frogzoo> fredsa: without the HSF, the cpu will fry
[05:56] <Hexidigital> Seveas: are the servers running dapper, by chance?
[05:57] <khoda> Seveas: Yeah, I know - I'm installing now. I mean if I want to get ubuntu-desktop do i have to be online?
[05:57] <wayward> News Just In.  Shuttleworth gone to a space shuttle excursion, Ubuntu services will be up as soon as he returns.
[05:57] <troy1of2> Error "Not on the same file system" while deleting "/home/troy/...ared Stuff".
[05:57] <mimithebrain> Seveas: you don't? When I installed ubuntu, it hung at configuring apt until I connected
[05:57] <frogzoo> Hexidigital: read the topic dude
[05:57] <Seveas> Hexidigital, i don't know
[05:57] <fredl> what's the best way to report this problem and how I narrowed it down?
[05:57] <khoda> mimithebrain: i just took out my network cable and its working
[05:57] <Hexidigital> frogzoo: i did
[05:57] <CrazyDoode> fredl: what was it?
[05:57] <wayward> fredl, the place would be at ubuntuforums
[05:57] <mimithebrain> khoda: oh ok, must be some problem on my part
[05:57] <frogzoo> Hexidigital: soz, time I turned in
[05:57] <Enverex> federic, on the launchpad site go to Ubuntu then file it in bugs
[05:57] <Seveas> khoda, what cd are you using to install?
[05:58] <khoda> mimithebrain: no, it's a problem with the servers
[05:58] <bobbyd> ryan_naruto: maybe you need more ram, check what's running and uninstall some stuff...
[05:58] <khoda> Seveas: Alternate CD
[05:58] <wayward> there's a million ATI/fglrx/AMD64/X/Xgl threads
[05:58] <Hexidigital> Seveas: i experienced a bug in dapper with my eth0 and eth1 connections, if they are multinetworked
[05:58] <jackson> hey my nvidia kernel module isn't loading properly and it's preventing me from effectively using GLX. modprobe nvidia doesn't solve the problem.
[05:58] <Seveas> khoda, ubuntu-desktop is on that cd
[05:58] <fredl> crazydoode: well I didn't solve it, but I found that running an earlier kernel takes the problem away yet introduces another problem.
[05:58] <fredsa> frogzoo, it's still attached at the mo, I'm just wondering about taking it off and putting it back on again. Should I use thermal paste again (I've already applied it once before)
[05:58] <mimithebrain> khoda: yeah, but I did the install way before the servers where down ;)
[05:58] <Seveas> Hexidigital, did you file it?
[05:58] <wayward> jackson: well there you have it. :)  Just reinstall NVidia drivers.
[05:58] <bobbyd> jackson: use lspci to see if your hardware is recognised
[05:58] <khoda> Seveas: I guess I'll ask my question again once I have it installed. I'm a first time linux user, dont know how to do anything >_<
[05:58] <codecaine> is synaptic down for downloads?
[05:58] <Hexidigital> Seveas: if i reboot my server (still does it), my eth1 will become eth2 for no reason... i wonder if that could contribute to the dns error w/ the servers
[05:58] <phaedrus44> are some repositories down
[05:58] <mimithebrain> codecaine: the rep are down
[05:58] <jackson> wayward: I've done that like five times =/
[05:58] <ryan_naruto> i thought ubuntu would run faster than winxp on this machine???
[05:58] <CrazyDoode> fredl: ati is a pain. I hate it. all my cards are ati.
[05:58] <Seveas> Hexidigital, fix your /etc/iftab
[05:58] <frogzoo> fredsa: you should clean the old lot off & reapply just a little/enough to close the air gaps
[05:59] <zalmoxes> how do i increase the maximum number of allowed half-open tcp/ip connections? for use with bittorent......
[05:59] <GlassCasket> So I just tried installing Ubuntu with the alternate CD, and installed Grub to the mbr. But when I boot, I get error 17. :\
[05:59] <Enverex> ryan_naruto, Why did you think that?
[05:59] <wayward> jakson: can you give me the output of modprobe nvidia>
[05:59] <codecaine> gentoo is the fastest linux I ever seen funs way faster then xp too
[05:59] <fredl> crazydoode: I have had no problems with the fglrx driver in Breezy at all, installed like a charm
[05:59] <jackson> bobbyd: yeah it's recognized
[05:59] <wayward> jackson: sorry, sudo modprobe nvidia > log.txt
[05:59] <Seveas> codecaine, impossible. YOu already waste 2/3 of the time compiling things
[05:59] <frogzoo> zalmoxes: u using firestarter?
[05:59] <bobbyd> ryan_naruto: it should run just as fast, maybe your graphics hardware isn't installed properly
[05:59] <fredl> !paste
[05:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:59] <fredsa> frogzoo, should I use anything particularly to remove the old paste?
[05:59] <zalmoxes> frogzoo: no
[05:59] <jimmygoon> codecaine - everything ubuntu seems to be down, and I dislike the compiling aspect of gento
[05:59] <codecaine> thats because it compiles from source
[05:59] <bobbyd> ryan_naruto: check it's not using the vesa driver
[05:59] <sven-tek> ryan_naruto, is your hardsisk dma mode activated?
[05:59] <zalmoxes> frogzoo: freeloader
[06:00] <Hexidigital> Seveas: only one entry... just a thought... was the last thing i could contribute to the solution of this problem
[06:00] <codecaine> but have you actaully used it
[06:00] <Seveas> codecaine, funroll-loops.org
[06:00] <jimmygoon> yes
[06:00] <codecaine> you must adminit its fast
[06:00] <Enverex> codecaine, I've ran Gentoo on my server for 5 years or so now and 3 years on my desktop and longer on my laptop, I can't say there was much speed difference
[06:00] <frogzoo> fredsa: isopropanol is best
 is synaptic down for downloads? <- some people dont understand what repositorys and services are
[06:00] <drunkmonkey> Has anybody had problems with SmartMedia flash disks?
[06:00] <kbrooks> Seveas: dont link to him
[06:00] <jackson> wayward: log.txt comes out blank
[06:00] <regeya> Enverex: I concur
[06:00] <fredsa> frogzoo, thanks :)
[06:00] <Enverex> codecaine, Other than the hours, even days spent compiling things
[06:00] <wayward> jackson: sorry again.  sudo modprobe nvidia &> log.txt
[06:00] <Seveas> kbrooks, stop trying to boss me around.
[06:00] <CrazyDoode> fredl: some do, my 9250 works fine, but my 9800pro is a bag of dirt.
[06:00] <kbrooks> The_Jack_of_Club: why not educate him?
[06:00] <frogzoo> zalmoxes: iptables doesn't block half opens by default
[06:00] <fredl> when I run a lower version kernel and then start fgl_glxgears, I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18696
[06:00] <codecaine> I like use ubuntu because of the easy just was quite impressed with gentoo
[06:00] <kbrooks> The_Jack_of_Club: Them, sorry
[06:00] <fredl> does that mean anything to anybody?
[06:01] <The_Jack_of_Club> educating people with kicks is not a good way to go though
[06:01] <wayward> at least the paste bin works
[06:01] <Seveas> The_Jack_of_Club, leave running the channel to us ok?
[06:01] <jackson> wayward: again it's blank =/
[06:01] <Enverex> The main  reason I changed to Ubuntu was because I was sick of being told to "fix it myself" every time the distro had some sort of complete breakdown due to broken ebuilds
[06:01] <zalmoxes> frogzoo: there is no limit to the number of ips i can be connected to at one time in gnome?
[06:01] <The_Jack_of_Club> ok
[06:01] <CrazyDoode> fredl: it's not installed properly
[06:01] <sven-tek> ryan_naruto, whats the result of  sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda
[06:01] <Seveas> wayward, that's because the pastebin is not in the Ubuntu DC
[06:01] <GlassCasket> So I just tried installing Ubuntu with the alternate CD, and installed Grub to the mbr. But when I boot, I get error 17. :\ Any ideas?
[06:01] <wayward> jackson: then your module loads ok
[06:01] <frogzoo> drunkmonkey: yep - cf won't autodetect in dapper
[06:02] <jackson> wayward: oh cool. any idea what the problem could be then?
[06:02] <The_Jack_of_Club> ill consider a different distribution with a more helpful community thank you
[06:02] <regeya> Enverex, codecaine:  the only advantage *I* ever saw to Gentoo was when many, many apps had things available only as compile-time options...for stuff that linked against non-free, gentoo was great.  also agree that educating people with kicks is just going to encourage jackasses to be even more, erm, jackassy, just to throw in my 0.02 into another conversation
[06:02] <jimmygoon> GlassCasket - what is your hd setup
[06:02] <jimmygoon> ?
[06:02] <CrazyDoode> fredl: put up the output of fglrxinfo on the pastebin
[06:02] <jimmygoon> dual boot or multiple partitions?
[06:02] <sobersabre>  <---- Seveas what is this character ?!
[06:02] <GlassCasket> jimmygoon: I have a music hardrive (IDE), XP drive (SATA), and Linux drive (SATA)
[06:02] <kbrooks> sobersabre: UTF-8 character
[06:02] <wayward> jackson: I wouldn't know.  I've never had trouble with NVidia except after updating kernel, which would normally require me to reinstall the module itself.
[06:02] <sobersabre> wow...
[06:02] <GlassCasket> jimmygoon: I tried booting from all three also.
[06:02] <sobersabre> :)
[06:02] <kbrooks> sobersabre: it's latin-1, I think
[06:03] <jimmygoon> GlassCasket - which hd did you install the Grub to?
[06:03] <wayward> sobersabre: it's a japanese kana chracter
[06:03] <fredl> crazydoode: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18697 seems like it's using Mesa now...
[06:03] <fredl> Hrmmm
[06:03] <zalmoxes> this place is overcrowded
[06:03] <frogzoo> zalmoxes: only kernel limits which will probly depend on memory/cpu
[06:03] <sobersabre> wayward, I thought it's japanese, but it looks like a wicked grin
[06:03] <jimmygoon> zalmoxes - yes it is
[06:03] <GlassCasket> jimmygoon: It asked me to install it to the mbr, so I did. And saw it was doing 'grub-install (hd0)'
[06:03] <fredl> so lessee.... maybe there's something wrong in the linux-restricted-modules coz it seems I don't have those installed for *this* kernel
[06:03] <wayward> sobersabre, I think it's from katakana :)
[06:03] <codecaine> can you compile the newest kernels with ubuntu without waiting for an update?
[06:03] <Enverex> sobersabre, It means Tsu in Japanese and Liu in Chinese.
[06:04] <jimmygoon> GlassCasket - you might try installing it onto a diff hd, honestly though I really have to go, something just came up, sorry!!
[06:04] <sobersabre> Tzu or Tsu ?
[06:04] <jatek> hy
[06:04] <frogzoo> GlassCasket: describe you disk setup...
[06:04] <GlassCasket> jimmygoon: Thanks.
[06:04] <OoberMick> GlassCasket: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[06:04] <jbholman> okay, i know about a million people have probably asked this in the last five hours, but has there been any indication as to why many ubuntu services are currently down?
[06:04] <profoX`> oh oh :P
[06:04] <wayward> sobersabre: found it. Katakana "tsu"
[06:04] <fredl> the linux-restricted-modules don't contain any proprietary ATI code, right?
[06:04] <profoX`> check the topic jbholman quick !
[06:05] <goatmale> no one knows
[06:05] <max> hi
[06:05] <goatmale> people speculate ninjas..
[06:05] <jbholman> profox, oh i did, i was just wondering about the "why" aspect, but thanks!
[06:05] <wayward> fredl: actually they carry fglrx drivers
[06:05] <profoX`> jbholman: oh, i don't think anyone knows.. someone told me it was a DNS problem
[06:05] <GlassCasket> OoberMick: He seems to be in the Grub prompt though. :\
[06:05] <codecaine> is respirtorys were to go away for good it would be a tough time trying to install stuff on ubuntu
[06:05] <marks> ahhh... ninjas.  Didn't realize they were after Ubuntu
[06:05] <jbholman> i would tend to think pirates over ninjas
[06:05] <sobersabre> goatmale what are you talking about ?
[06:05] <jatek> help please!!!!I'm from hungary, and I don't know, that where I go to chat!!!!!!!!!!
[06:05] <jbholman> or maybe pirates and ninjas at the same time
[06:05] <fredl> wayward: hmm. And those are then compiled from source?
[06:05] <Seveas> !hu
[06:05] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[06:06] <jbholman> but they usually don't work together
[06:06] <MarcN> Any word on what the archives' problems are?  I have a 300Mhz system right now and want to use xubuntu-desktop.
[06:06] <OoberMick> GlassCasket: you can do that at the grub prompt i think
[06:06] <jatek> okay, thank you
[06:06] <Warbo> jbholman: Damn pirates. I bet they were trying to get software for free from the Ubuntu servers.   NVidia and ATI provide open-source wrappers which are used to inject their closed-source core modules into the kernel.  Those wrappers are subject to change along with the kernel.
[06:07] <MarcN> profoX`: I did see that sevices were done.  Wondering why.
[06:07] <ttyfscker> whats up with the ubuntu repos going down here lately?? yesterday us.archive.ubuntu.com was down.. today its archive.ubuntu.com
[06:07] <profoX`> lol Warbo
[06:07] <fredl> wayward: it just seems odd to me, when the linux-restricted-modules package is not installed, fglrxinfo tells me the OpenGL vendor string is Mesa Project. does that make sense ? (I'm still using the fglrx driver)
[06:07] <kbrooks> jbholman: What?
[06:07] <wayward> fredl: core source is closed.
[06:07] <Anti-Tedd> Canonical had a power cut. Get over it.
[06:07] <regeya> ttyfscker: READ the TOPIC please...ty
[06:07] <jbholman> kbrooks: just having some fun
[06:07] <jbholman> ...not really talking about software pirates
[06:07] <wayward> fredl: yeah, Mesa loads up when there is no native OpenGL implementation
[06:07] <jbholman> more about traditional pirates
[06:07] <profoX`> MarcN: yes alot of people are wondering why :) but no one knows..
[06:07] <OoberMick> GlassCasket: I see well the error means that grub doesn't understand the partition format.   I know, I know, leave the running of the channel to you...
[06:08] <marks> us.archive still seems to be down (from where I am)
[06:08] <Cyball>  hi can somebody tell me how can i send a TERM signal to an process without the command kill ???
[06:08] <jatek> HELLO MY NAME IS DORKA
[06:08] <_rp> really
[06:08] <GlassCasket> OoberMick: I have a music hardrive (IDE), XP drive (SATA), and Linux drive (SATA).
[06:08] <profoX`> lol
[06:08] <kitsuneofdoom> Cyball: I think you have to use kill or killall
[06:08] <OoberMick> Cyball: pkill??
[06:08] <kitsuneofdoom> Cyball: or pkill
[06:08] <wayward> fredl: restricted-modules carry all the wrapper code, yeah, and the closed source core modules as well.  That's why they are Restricted. :)
[06:09] <CrazyDoode> +
[06:09] <wayward> fredl: and not installed by default.
[06:09] <kbrooks> canonical.com is ......... down!
[06:09] <javajazz> before i go:  have been running xubuntu on edgy for two weeks now; upgrade from dapper by changing sources to edgy.  synaptic helped fix discrepancies with some intuition from me; video drivers have changed names,etc.  ubuntu will thrive!!!
[06:09] <OoberMick> GlassCasket: Which is the one with grub on it?
[06:09] <frogzoo> GlassCasket: u installed grub to the ide?
[06:09] <Warbo> Is nvidia-glx just a meta-package or does it contain the driver?
[06:09] <wayward> cyball: kill -TERM blah
[06:09] <GlassCasket> frogzoo: I think so, it asked to put it in the mbr and I said alright.
[06:09] <jatek> WHAT ARE YOU UP TO WAYWARD?
[06:09] <Warbo> !caps > jatek
[06:10] <_rp> oh dear
[06:10] <jrib> jatek: please don't use capital letters
[06:10] <Warbo> jrib: Maybe he's on MSDOS
[06:10] <wayward> or on VT102
[06:10] <kbrooks> Warbo: no
[06:10] <kbrooks> wayward: no
[06:10] <kbrooks> please.
[06:10] <_rp> no
[06:10] <kbrooks> dontt be silly
[06:10] <rmjb> hey room
[06:10] <kbrooks> lets talk about ubuntu
[06:10] <fredl> wayward: Hmmm. so is there any decent documentation on that wrapper and core module? I'd like to try and get a trace of some sort to find out where things go wrong. I mean I get all kinds of trashing and eventually a hang with normal work when the linux-restricted-modules is installed, I get an instant hang when I run fgl_glxgears
[06:10] <wayward> lol
[06:11] <eric___> Any idea what happened to the www.ubuntu.com server?
[06:11] <wayward> fredl: it's just a wild guess here, but I'd try playing around with AGP settings
[06:11] <GlassCasket> frogzoo: Should I of said no?
[06:11] <Enverex> hmmm, Ubuntu needs more icons for package files. At the moment all archives seem to have the same icon, which is confusing
[06:11] <Cyball> wayward: i try it but the piece of software i wrote should give me out something but it does not
[06:11] <kbrooks> Enverex: Eh?
[06:11] <GlassCasket> eric___: Read the topic
[06:11] <kbrooks> Enverex: All of them?
[06:11] <fredl> wayward: Hmm, I have an X700 Pro board and it's PCI Express so AGP twiddling isn't going to help
[06:12] <wayward> fredl: ah
[06:12] <rmjb> so I messed around with my GDM and now I can't go into Login Window tool
[06:12] <Cyball> wayward: i' m waiting for SIGTERM :-)
[06:12] <kbrooks> eric___: read the topic please
[06:12] <profoX`> eric___: they say it's pirates or ninjas
[06:12] <rmjb> can someone help?
[06:12] <Hexidigital>  /quit
[06:12] <Warbo> Enverex: You can change the icon theme, or submit your own to the art team
[06:12] <eric___> kbrooks:  That'll teach me to read.
[06:12] <frogzoo> GlassCasket: this problem is caused by the bios & grub disagreeing on the ordering of disks, google/figure out how to boot linux from the grub prompt, then edit the /boot/grub/device.map & reinstall grub
[06:12] <cypher1> hi frogzoo
[06:12] <eric___> profoX': Pirate ninjas?
[06:12] <wayward> Cyball: are you trying to stop your program?
[06:12] <frogzoo> cypher1: hiya
[06:12] <OoberMick> frogzoo: I was about to say that. Need to type faster....
[06:13] <eric___> profoX': Spooky.
[06:13] <fredl> wayward: so if the ATI drivers load Mesa when it can't find the wrapper / kernel module.... 3D should still work right?
[06:13] <Enverex> Warbo, I know that, but I mean the default icon theme seems pretty good, just seems to be lacking severely in that area
[06:13] <profoX`> eric___: or ninja pirates.
[06:13] <goatmale> I think it was those leprichan ninjas
[06:13] <frogzoo> over to you OoberMick, I gotta blow
[06:13] <fredl> wayward: except slower?
[06:13] <Enverex> kbrooks, seems to be
[06:13] <Warbo> rmjb: Try going to a console with ctrl-alt-f1, purging gdm from within dpkg (with a --force-depends option so stuff doesn't get removed) then reinstalling
[06:13] <rmjb> How can I get GDM to show user icons? Al-la Windows Welcome Screen?
[06:13] <eric___> profoX': Did the server get attacked?
[06:13] <goatmale> maybe pirjas
[06:13] <Warbo> Enverex: I don't like the defaults, I use GANT icons
[06:13] <wayward> fredl: I think it's X that loads Mesa.  Yeah, 3D should work, albeit with a low framerate
[06:13] <GlassCasket> frogzoo: Do you think it'll boot if I don't install grub to the mbr?
[06:13] <profoX`> eric___: might be possible
[06:13] <Seveas> people, stop the offtopic talk.
[06:13] <Enverex> kbrooks, gz, tar, bz2, deb, zip, etc all the same icon
[06:13] <rmjb> okay thanks Warbo
[06:14] <eric___> profoX': Something like this happened to the debian servers recently, I'm told.
[06:14] <Cyball> wayward: yes i want to stop it
[06:14] <profoX`> goatmale: pirhinjas ! ninja fishes
[06:14] <wayward> fredl: actually X loads whatever it finds under libGL.so
[06:14] <goatmale> haha
[06:14] <trev__> ok, mabey it me or are all the repositories down today?
[06:14] <OoberMick> GlassCasket: you need to fix the mbr now
[06:14] <wayward> Cyball: what about Ctrl-C? :)
[06:14] <_rp> lol
[06:14] <fredl> wayward: Hmm, indeed. glxgears works... VERY slow framerate though indeed.
[06:14] <frogzoo> GlassCasket: nope, without a boot loader in your mbr, the puter won't boot, no
[06:14] <Cyball> wayward: Ctrl+C does not work
[06:14] <eric___> profoX': I keep getting booted from IRC.  Is this part of the problem?
[06:14] <mziesack> hi, are the repos down?
[06:14] <_rp> read el topico stupido
[06:14] <Warbo> rmjb: To display user icons either use a theme with a user selection window (I think "happy gnome" has one) or turn of the themed login and use the one with a "face browser"
[06:14] <Stormx2> Seveas: haha nice
[06:14] <Enverex> hmm, seems GDM is locked down on Ubuntu, you can't set auto-login or the theme or anything...
[06:14] <trev__> they are for me
[06:14] <GlassCasket> frogzoo: Ok. Because I installed Ubuntu 5.10 before and put grub in the mbr and it worked fine.
[06:15] <gnomefreak> eric___: stop with the offtopic talk and you wont get removed
[06:15] <rmjb> Thanks again Warbo!
[06:15] <eric___> gnomefreak: Got it.
[06:15] <OoberMick> GlassCasket: Look at /boot/grub/device.map change it so that the devices are correct. Reinstall grub
[06:15] <profoX`> Seveas: what i do what i do..
[06:15] <Seveas> Enverex, system  admin  login screen
[06:15] <eric___> gnomefreak: Is KDE on or off topic?
[06:15] <zalmoxes> i was messing around with the my xfce panel settings when it dissappeared. didnt appear when i restarted my com either how do i get it back?
[06:15] <n0dl> the reason why the forums are down as well as ubuntu website is because canonical cut the power to their servers
[06:15] <GlassCasket> OoberMick: So I'd have to boot with the live CD and check, right?
[06:15] <jackson> hey I just installed the newest 1.0-8762 nvidia drivers and when I try to gdm start it tells me that the X module version is 8756 but it's trying to load 8762. how do I update the x module?
[06:15] <n0dl> please await further updates
[06:15] <jrib> Cyball: why can't you use the kill command?  ctrl-\ sends QUIT usually by the way
[06:15] <wayward> Cyball: so it's not a console app
[06:15] <n0dl> thank you:)
[06:15] <gnomefreak> eric___: depends on if it is support related
[06:15] <Enverex> Seveas, lol, I never clicked that as I thought it GAVE me a login window (which I admit I thought was odd) I didn't realise it was the setup
[06:15] <eric___> I got a kubuntu question - is this room OK or do I need to go a kubuntu room?
[06:15] <OoberMick> GlassCasket: yeah
[06:16] <meheren> err darn... I came in here to ask when the resporsirity and the wiki would be back up but it says DO NOT ASK....
[06:16] <Warbo> jackson: Make sure you COMPLETELY remove an older version before installing a newer version
[06:16] <Seveas> eric___, you can try here or #kubuntu
[06:16] <regeya> eric___: just to throw in my 0.02...you might have better luck in #kubuntu
[06:16] <rmjb> so how do I reserve my username on freenode?
[06:16] <frogzoo> GlassCasket: it's possible to boot with what you've got - it's just grub's looking for the boot partition in the wrong place
[06:16] <eric___> Seveas, regeya: thanks.
[06:16] <jackson> Warbo: should I do something besides nvidia-installer --uninstall?
[06:16] <Seveas> !register > rmjb
[06:16] <gnomefreak> rmjb: register it
[06:16] <fredl> Hmm, I'm going to restart my system with the 2.6.15-23 kernel and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23 and see what happens then...
[06:16] <Warbo> jackson: Why don't you use the packages in Ubuntu?
[06:16] <profoX`> Seveas: can't handle a joke eh ?
[06:16] <GlassCasket> frogzoo: So how can I boot with what I've got?
[06:16] <trev__> does anyone know why all the repos are down?
[06:16] <wayward> fredl: good luck.  I have that setup on AMD64 and it works
[06:16] <jrib> trev__: /topic
[06:16] <Mempf> its not jsut the repos
[06:16] <gnomefreak> profoX`: jokes go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:16] <ttyfscker> can i ask what exactly is the deal with the servers without getting kicked?
[06:16] <jackson> Warbo: those don't work either. probably because I'm not uninstalling it correctly like you said
[06:16] <Hexidigital> trev__: read the topic
[06:16] <Mempf> everything is down
[06:17] <Cyball> jrib: because the console is free it does not freeze after starting the prog
[06:17] <GlassCasket> OoberMick: What am I suppose to do with device.map exactly?
[06:17] <regeya> wow, people do NOT read the /topic, do they
[06:17] <frogzoo> GlassCasket: there's instruction about the web, just google, you'll find a half dozen howtos
[06:17] <Warbo> jackson: Yes, uninstall with the --uninstall, then don't use the Nvidia provided archives
[06:17] <braddock> Is there a repo mirror I can use directly?
[06:17] <GlassCasket> frogzoo: Ok.
[06:17] <gnomefreak> braddock: no
[06:17] <braddock> 'k.  thanks.
[06:17] <jrib> Cyball: you can still use kill with the process's pid though, can't you?
[06:17] <kbrooks> braddock: i use nl AND it works
[06:18] <jrib> Cyball: or killall with the name of the process?
[06:18] <kbrooks> is this the first time EVER that ubuntu has been completely down?
[06:18] <isonice> hi, just a little question... it's very easy to burn files/music to a CD under ubuntu, but how about burning an ISO image...?
[06:18] <wayward> isonice: even easier
[06:18] <Alan_De_Smet> /trev
[06:18] <Cyball> jrib: kill works but it does not give me the feedback before ending
[06:18] <MarcN> isonice: right click on an .iso in nautilus
[06:18] <Seveas> isonice, rightclick on it and select burn
[06:18] <MarcN> Seveas: jinx
[06:18] <jrib> Cyball: ok, I don't understand exactly what you want to do then.  I though you just wanted to kill it
[06:19] <GlassCasket> OoberMick: So I have to check device.map and look at which device is first in the list. Then do 'grub-install(hd*)', where * is the first device in device.map?
[06:19] <Warbo> isonice: You may need an extension to Nautilus if the option is not there
[06:19] <kaled> who shot the *all* servers down?
[06:19] <isonice> my goodness! there it is! :D perhaps it was too easy for me to even think about it...
[06:19] <wayward> isonice: you can also drag-and-drop the image into CD Creator window.  Hit Burn and it will ask you if you want to burn the image.
[06:19] <Cyball> jrib: it should give me an ouptut like ... server is going down ...
[06:20] <amadeo1988> back again
[06:20] <wayward> isonice: just make sure you don't drag-drop more than that one file.
[06:20] <OoberMick> GlassCasket: yes but make sure that it agrees with what you expect
[06:20] <GlassCasket> OoberMick: And what exactly do I expect? lol
[06:20] <wayward> remember, Ubuntu has no responsibility for the content of .ISO image :D
[06:20] <isonice> wayward: now that's a cool feature too, burning an ISO as a file happened to me more than once
[06:20] <amadeo1988> i was wandering is there a way i can view my ubuntu linux partition and read or copy files to my ntfs paritions from windowsxp ? i don't wanna write just read and copy files from it too ntfs or even fat32
[06:21] <wayward> isonice, I know exactly what you're talking about
[06:21] <Seveas> !ntfs > amadeo1988
[06:21] <Warbo> !explore2fs
[06:21] <goonies> theres supposedly is some driver out now that has been tested as safe for writing and deleting to ntfs partitions
[06:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about explore2fs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:21] <jrib> Cyball: I see now.  So your program isn't sending the output to the terminal
[06:21] <isonice> LoL! I guess it's okay since I'm trying to burn ubuntu ISO itself
[06:21] <Cyball> jrib: yes
[06:21] <wayward> isonice: we should patch CD Creator to show a little smiley when it sees Ubuntu being burnt. :)
[06:22] <OoberMick> GlassCasket: Thats a good question ;) You want it to agree with your bios I'm not exactly sure
[06:22] <Cyball> jrib: could be that i used the wrong singnal name for that SIGTERM is it right ???
[06:22] <GlassCasket> OoberMick: Oh ok, so then device.map should be in the same order as my BIOS. Thanks man. :)
[06:23] <wayward> Cyball: *kill commands take -15, -TERM, -SIGTERM
[06:23] <fredl> ok so I'm now in 2.6.15-23 and have the 2.6.15-23 linux-restricted-drivers installed. So far no sign of screen trashing and fglrxinfo says that OpenGL vendor strings is ATI Technologies Inc.
[06:23] <wayward> Cyball: whichever you prefer
[06:23] <omac> It would be cool to see ubuntu modify apt to become a peer-to-peer repository to fix this problem. Imagine the bandwidth.  Sure there would be the mirrors which act like permanent seeds but when they go down like the security.ubuntu.com did, it would be nice to see the leeching peers become the backup for the peer to peer repository.  What do you think?
[06:23] <wayward> fredl: kudos
[06:23] <Cyball> wayward: THX
[06:23] <isonice> wayward: lol yeah why not :) thanks for answering, have a nice day...
[06:24] <wayward> isonice: same to you :)
[06:24] <Enverex> What's the command for uploading to REVU?
[06:24] <kitsuneofdoom> omac: that is actually a good idea. Ubuntu, the Bittorrent distro
[06:24] <Seveas> omac, people are actually working on that
[06:24] <fredl> wayward: promising... lemme see if I can also run fgl_glxgears, if I don't say anything soon you know I can't :P
[06:24] <wayward> fredl: hope we don't see you (Leaving: ...)
[06:24] <omac> apt-torrent :)
[06:24] <fredl> wayward: running at 1051 FPS
[06:24] <wayward> fredl: whee
[06:24] <amadeo1988> That link didnt answer my questions
[06:24] <zsh> omac: wouldnt that make ubuntu unsecure
[06:25] <fredl> that's pretty fast I think :P
[06:25] <Seveas> zsh, not if the gpg/md5 checks are kept
[06:25] <wayward> apt-mule
[06:25] <gnomefreak> how did you know that he was pming me lol
[06:25] <Seveas> gnomefreak, telepathy ;)
[06:25] <Enverex> zsh, not with MD5's and keys
[06:25] <PingunZ> is www.ubuntu.com and www.ubuntuforums.org also down there ?
[06:25] <kitsuneofdoom> zsh: md5 is a little outdated.
[06:25] <gnomefreak> ;)
[06:25] <_rp> or ircop ;)
[06:25] <kitsuneofdoom> eep
[06:25] <omac> no because the signatures are embedded into each package.  Any tampering renders the package invalid for the install.
[06:25] <gnomefreak> PingunZ: everything is down
[06:25] <kitsuneofdoom> that meant to go to omac
[06:25] <PingunZ> ty gnomefreak :) I was very worried ;)
[06:25] <zsh> ok. hadnt thot of that
[06:26] <moebius_> all bittorrent downloads are already checked against hashes in the torrent file
[06:26] <kitsuneofdoom> however, md5 is getting insecure
[06:26] <braddock> Seveas: scary to think that every ubuntu system in the world could then be hacked if that one master cert is compromised though...but that is a problem with live updates anyway.
[06:26] <kitsuneofdoom> people will be able to cause md5 collisons soon
[06:26] <moebius_> bt verifies each chunk of the file as it receives it
[06:26] <Seveas> braddock, true
[06:26] <zsh> kitsuneofdoom, how so?
[06:27] <kitsuneofdoom> I read it on slashdot like half a year ago, that someone generated a program to cause md5 collisions or something
[06:27] <moebius_> zsh - md5 is a hash function
[06:27] <moebius_> the nature of a hash is it maps numbers from a very large set to a smaller set
[06:27] <wayward> md5 collisions?
[06:27] <Seveas> kitsuneofdoom, far too theoretical to be useful yet
[06:27] <kitsuneofdoom> Oh, good
[06:27] <Seveas> and collisions aren't suitable for attacking archives
[06:27] <Seveas> and this is all very offtopic in here
[06:27] <asdfgghhjj> I just installed 6.06 and the crash of servers broke down the update in half... whah
[06:27] <wayward> I read in Science that AES is flawed. :D
[06:28] <moebius_> so it follows that for any hash value there's more than one value that maps to it by the hash function
[06:28] <yamla> asdfgghhjj, same problem here.  :)
[06:28] <kitsuneofdoom> asdfgghhjj: Sorry, the repositories are down
[06:28] <zsh> moebius_, i thot a different md5 is always generated for different files
[06:28] <wayward> still nobody is worried
[06:28] <kitsuneofdoom> oh yeah
[06:28] <zsh> moebius_, how would they collide
[06:28] <gnomefreak> READ THE /TOPIC PEOPLE
[06:28] <abeco> Hello, I have recently bought a MP4 that can reproduce videos, but I haven't found any program in ubuntu to transcode any video to .amv format. Do you know about any program?
[06:28] <Seveas> !offtopic > zsh
[06:28] <fredl> wayward: Hmm, too soon. fgl_glxgears locked up X after about 20 seconds running.
[06:28] <Seveas> abeco, no.
[06:28] <Seveas> mp4 is patent encumbered
[06:28] <wayward> fredl: :/
[06:28] <kitsuneofdoom> I think I'm going to switch to Wingdows to play some games
[06:28] <Commander-Crowe> I LOVE XFCE!!!!
[06:28] <Seveas> !caps
[06:29] <abeco> in spain the are no software patents
[06:29] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:29] <Hexidigital> !topic
[06:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about topic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:29] <Enverex> abeco, avidemux
[06:29] <wayward> fredl: your bst bet is to wait until the forums get back up and search
[06:29] <zsh> Seveas, ok.
[06:29] <AngryElf> is us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[06:29] <Warbo> abeco: amv?
[06:29] <abeco> Enverex thanks
[06:29] <Commander-Crowe> AngryElf: yes
[06:29] <asdfgghhjj> well, I have a newbie question (please don't shoot me): I can't apt-get, so how can I install MPlayer?
[06:29] <rsk> angystardust: topic
[06:29] <bobbyd> abeco: mencoder
[06:29] <wayward> fredl: sorry for not being of great assistance
[06:29] <fredl> wayward: does ubuntu also have a bugtracking system?
[06:29] <rsk> doh
[06:29] <abeco> Warbo yes .amv
[06:29] <Hexidigital> asdfgghhjj: read the topic
[06:29] <Enverex> asdfgghhjj, By waiting, heh
[06:29] <abeco> mencoder doesnt work
[06:29] <wayward> fredl: yeah, in launchpad
[06:29] <rsk> fredl: yes launcpad
[06:29] <Warbo> abeco: Never heard of that
[06:29] <Seveas> asdfgghhjj, waut for the repos to come back up and use apt-get after that
[06:29] <moebius_> zsh - a md5 value is 128 bits.  which means there are 2^128 possible values. which is a lot.  But the .deb files that are hashed are each waaaay bigger than 128 bits
[06:29] <TheCan> hi! It seems security.ubuntu.com is down :( is there any mirror?
[06:29] <nry> hola
[06:30] <abeco> Warbo I haven't heard about it too
[06:30] <fredl> wayward: no problem, I find it convenient to talk and often I talk myself towards some sort of solution :P
[06:30] <Seveas> TheCan, just be patient...
[06:30] <HedgeMage> asdfgghhjj: wait unil things are back together, unfortunately.  Unless, of course, someone you know and trust already has it and can send you the packages, and it's urgent enough to go through all the trouble ;)
[06:30] <Enverex> abeco, run "file" against one of those files and see what it says, i.e. "file blah.amv"
[06:30] <wayward> fredl: hehe
[06:30] <nry> are the ubuntu servers up?
[06:30] <moebius_> zsh - so there can't be a unique md5 value for every possible .deb binary file
[06:30] <Seveas> nry, no
[06:30] <Seveas> AngryElf, please leave running this channel to the operators
[06:30] <fredl> so where is this 'launchpad' ?
[06:31] <omac> #deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[06:31] <omac> deb http://ubuntu.rucus.ru.ac.za/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted
[06:31] <omac> #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[06:31] <omac> deb-src http://ubuntu.rucus.ru.ac.za/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted
[06:31] <omac>   #deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[06:31] <omac> deb http://ubuntu.rucus.ru.ac.za/ubuntu/ dapper-security universe multiverse
[06:31] <Seveas> fredl, launchpad.net (currently also down)
[06:31] <abeco> Enverex one minute
[06:31] <omac> #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[06:31] <moebius_> zsh - so it follows that for a given md5 value, there's more than one input value (possible .deb file) that could map to it
[06:31] <asdfgghhjj> HedgeMage, thanks. Fortunately, it's not urgent :)
[06:31] <Warbo> zsh: If hashes were unique then they wouldn't be hashes, they would be lossless compression
[06:31] <moebius_> zsh - now the security of md5 is that it's easy to go from .deb => md5 but there's no easy way to go to md5 => .deb
[06:31] <fredl> oh okay Seveas.
[06:31] <Commander-Crowe> uk.archives isn't working anymore either
[06:31] <Seveas> omac, don't flood.
[06:31] <wayward> zsh: there is NO way to go back from md5 :)
[06:31] <gnomefreak> omac: all servers are down and dont paste thank you
[06:31] <Enverex> Commander-Crowe, It wasn't in the first place
[06:31] <omac> sorry Seveas.
[06:32] <pekay> what archives is working?
[06:32] <rmjb> au.archive.ubuntu.com is still up as a respository
[06:32] <nry> Seveas, what's the problem?
[06:32] <Commander-Crowe> Enverax: I was using it about half hour ago
[06:32] <HedgeMage> asdfgghhjj: :)
[06:32] <Commander-Crowe> Enverex: I was using it about half hour ago
[06:32] <abeco> jose@serhost:/mnt/sda1$ file Equilibrium.amv
[06:32] <abeco> Equilibrium.amv: RIFF (little-endian) data
[06:32] <fredl> nl.archive.ubuntu.com is up...
[06:32] <ubuntufan> oh man, just when i format my hard drive things go offline :/
[06:32] <Warbo> abeco: Isn't RIFF an audio format?
[06:33] <moebius_> zsh - it is possible to create a file that has the same md5 by brute force algorithms but it's very slow
[06:33] <omac> use the above .za dapper security repository.  It works.  the non-security stuff works from be.archive, en.archive, ca.archive.
[06:33] <abeco> don't know... I only understand little endian
[06:33] <yamla> ca.archive didn't work for me.
[06:33] <Enverex> Warbo, Yeah
[06:33] <Seveas> omac, don't encourage people to switch. that's just moving the problem around
[06:33] <Seveas> PATIENCE is the key here
[06:33] <Enverex> RIFF is Raw AIFF format
[06:33] <Sepheebear> didnt somebody come up with an app before to find the closest working mirrors?
[06:33] <Warbo> Just that MP4 is usually video
[06:34] <jtshaw> mirrorselect
[06:34] <rmjb> Oh, the servers are flooded then... okay then don't switch to what I posted above
[06:34] <Sepheebear> jtshaw: ah that's it
[06:34] <fredl> haha so apt-get install mirrorselect ;-)
[06:34] <Commander-Crowe> uk.archives went down because to many people used it
[06:35] <wayward> moebius_: that's an interesting idea; someone putting malicious code into a .deb, then adding dummy file with nonsense data just to make it compute to the original MD5 after zipping
[06:35] <rmjb> wow, ubuntu is out growing itself
[06:35] <rmjb> that 10mill from Mark will get used in bandwidth costs!
[06:35] <fredl> wayward: that's real hard to do, one of the characteristics of MD5
[06:35] <Seveas> !offtopic > rmjb
[06:35] <wayward> moebius_: never thought of that, but sure is possible, even ifonly in theory :)
[06:35] <moebius_> yep
[06:35] <Sepheebear> i already have a bunch of mirrors listed in a file just for this kind of situation
[06:35] <chowells2> wayward: yes, do you realise how hard it would be to do?
[06:35] <Sepheebear> i think i got it off of packages.ubuntu.com
[06:35] <wayward> sure
[06:35] <rmjb> sorry, new
[06:35] <moebius_> all hash functions are vulnerable to collisions
[06:36] <moebius_> it's just an issue of how hard it is to generate them
[06:36] <Seveas> !offtopic > moebius_
[06:36] <ubuntufan> Seveas: sorry to ask , but do you have some idea when it's getting back online?
[06:36] <moebius_> alright, end of that discussion :)
[06:36] <gnomefreak> never
[06:36] <Seveas> ubuntufan, no.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> ;)
[06:36] <fredl> well somebody did show some vulnerabilities in the MD5 algorithm a while ago so it is possible
[06:36] <omac> Please keep in mind the za archive above is in a university in South Africa(country of birth of ubuntu).  The security repository is necessary to avoid silly errors in aptitude. the non-security stuff works fine on many country archives.  I tried ca.archive, en.archive, be.archive and had no problems. for the non-security stuff.
[06:36] <wayward> hash discussion has been hashed.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> hes getting tiring
[06:36] <pekay>   Could not resolve au.security.ubuntu.com
[06:37] <pekay> is there a working security repository?
[06:37] <gnomefreak> omac: drop it
[06:37] <goatmale> pekay read the topic
[06:37] <Seveas> pekay, be PATIENT
[06:37] <omac> ok ok :) I'll stop.
[06:37] <pekay> i know.. ;p
[06:37] <Seveas> it'll come back
[06:37] <rmjb> I couldn't get security from au
[06:37] <fredl> could not resolve huh? Hmmm.
[06:37] <nry> Hey ppl, I'm so sad....I can't upgrade now!!
[06:37] <pekay> i thought there'd be an austrailian security repository thing :p
[06:37] <gnomefreak> rmjb: comment security repos out if you are gonna try to work around it
[06:37] <fredl> should au.security.ubuntu.com exist in DNS?
[06:37] <P4W3R> hello
[06:37] <Seveas> Fredl no
[06:38] <pekay> fredl: im only guessing.
[06:38] <pekay> ...
[06:38] <fredl> ok.
[06:38] <RedGhost> xchat isnt saving my display settings, anyone know how to fix this/
[06:38] <Dave2> UK Mirror Service ( http://www.mirrorservice.org/ ) appears to have -security, though I've not actually tried it
[06:38] <Sepheebear> mirror.isp.net.au/ftp/pub/ubuntu seems to be up and working
[06:38] <A[D] minS> Seveas: so which is exist to use now ?
[06:38] <Seveas> A[D] minS, be patient
[06:38] <P4W3R> i was going to ask about ubuntu servers
[06:38] <rmjb> I'm getting stuff still from synaptic so it's no biggy
[06:38] <Warbo> I was suprised at seeing over 900 people in the room, but since there is very little support going on it looks like they're mostly to do with apt mirrors
[06:38] <P4W3R> ^^
[06:38] <rmjb> I didn't switch to au, that's what was installed for me
[06:39] <P4W3R> which server runs, i need to low-level format a hard disk?
[06:39] <P4W3R> which server runs?, i need to low-level format a hard disk
[06:39] <Warbo> !repeat
[06:39] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:39] <techrush> are te ubuntu forums down ?
[06:39] <techrush> o ok
[06:39] <techrush> sorry topic....
[06:39] <phuzz> whats the name of the ubuntu that comes with xfce right off the bat?
[06:39] <P4W3R> i do not feel ignored
[06:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[06:40] <Warbo> xubuntu
[06:40] <Seveas> phuzz, xubuntu
[06:40] <zalmoxes> !patience
[06:40] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:40] <phuzz> thats it!
[06:40] <wayward> phuzz: xubuntu?
[06:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> er sorry - random no
[06:40] <fredl> Seveas - any place where we can look at the status of service downage without asking on here?
[06:40] <P4W3R> QUESTION: what should I use to low-level format a harddisk?
[06:40] <lophyte> anyone know if the repo servers are down?
[06:40] <pekay> read topic
[06:40] <rOss^FX> yes read the TOPIC
[06:41] <Seveas> fredl, just try to connect
[06:41] <fredl> lophyte - yes.
[06:41] <P4W3R> good bless the irc
[06:41] <abeco> excuse me, but the person who has recomended me avidemux, can transcode into mp4, but what I need is to transcode it to .amv format
[06:41] <P4W3R> XD
[06:41] <paiiiiii> Hi, does anyone know how i can get my regular ethernet to work? Its an "Agere Systems" card and 'lspci' shows: "Ethernet controller: Agere systems: Unknown device ed01"
[06:41] <wayward> P4W3R: you normally shouldn't
[06:41] <_TomTom_> P4W3R, depends on your hard disk, go to website constructor, may there is an apps
[06:42] <interfear> US still down eh
[06:42] <redcard> Most drives haven't supported/done low level in a long time.
[06:42] <Warbo> fredl: "for (;1;) ; do sudo apt-get update && sleep 180 ; done" That will check every three minutes :)
[06:42] <P4W3R> linux app ...
[06:42] <wayward> P4W3R: first place to start looking would be your BIOS software
[06:42] <Seveas> Warbo, heh
[06:42] <redcard> Most drive manufactuerers have a tool to do it.. but they don't recommend it
[06:42] <wayward> or am I too 90s
[06:42] <narfnastier> Warbo, that should be "for ((;;) ..."
[06:42] <P4W3R> is a macintosh disk
[06:43] <P4W3R> maybe i should use apple utility
[06:43] <redcard> P4W3R: Why do you need to low level it?
[06:43] <minerale> Hello, what is going on at canonical ?
[06:43] <fredl> Warbo: not a great idea :) Anyway, only thing I'd like to know for sure is whether this is a security related issue and if any of the repositories have been penetrated.
[06:43] <P4W3R> bad blocks
[06:43] <abeco> do you know a program that can transcode a .avi into an .amv one?
[06:43] <redcard> Ugh.
[06:43] <tyr`> how do i register a channel on this server?
[06:43] <Warbo> !info transcode
[06:43] <ubotu> transcode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 14123 kB, installed size 42172 kB
[06:43] <wayward> P4W3R, make sure you have specified the correct geometry.  Some drives will report bad sectors if the geometry isn't set right in BIOS.
[06:43] <P4W3R> no bios
[06:43] <elkbuntu> minerale, read the topic. do /topic to see it again
[06:43] <Shish> .amv o_O
[06:43] <Warbo> Maybe
[06:43] <lophyte> oh, sorry guys.. I didn't see the topic
[06:43] <P4W3R> macintosh
[06:43] <apokryphos> tyr`: /msg chanserv help register
[06:43] <profoX`> tyr`: /chanserv register help
[06:43] <redcard> Low levelling won't fix bad blocks.  The modern OS's and Bios will mark the sectors as bad.
[06:43] <profoX`> help register..
[06:43] <tyr`> thanks
[06:44] <profoX`> what apokryphos said
[06:44] <redcard> If it's giving you a lot of errors, you might as well give up on the drive and save the data
[06:44] <P4W3R> that process fixed the problem
[06:44] <fredl> ick my screen is really trashing right now...
[06:44] <P4W3R> i used apple utility
[06:44] <P4W3R> it takes about 6 hour
[06:44] <yamla> Sometimes something like spinrite (commercial software, but a reasonable price) can help with hard drives.
[06:44] <P4W3R> 6 hours to complete
[06:44] <zazeem> how can i move my game icons into a different menu on ubuntu? i made sub categories in my game folder and dont know how to move them
[06:44] <gnomefreak> brb
[06:44] <redcard> P4W3R: That likely isn't fixing things, though.
[06:44] <Seveas> zazeem, try alacarte
[06:44] <Warbo> zazeem: Alacarte
[06:44] <redcard> Just make certain you have backups.
[06:44] <yanis> is ubuntu.com offline?
[06:45] <nathan> title answered my question, I just changed http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu to http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu for now
[06:45] <minerale> elkbuntu: yeah, I see it's down, but why? what's going on?
[06:45] <elkbuntu> minerale, your guess is as good as that of anyone here.
[06:45] <zazeem> warbo: i tried alecarte but i cant move files into other folders
[06:45] <P4W3R> form year to year the problem happens again
[06:45] <P4W3R> is the disk
[06:45] <tyr`> how do i get opped in a channel i registered?
[06:45] <zazeem> saveas: i tried alecarte but i cant move files into other folders
[06:45] <cello_rasp> i thought ubuntuforums were on a separate server
[06:45] <redcard> P4W3R: Then it sounds like the disk is going to fail on you.
[06:45] <Warbo> zazeem: I think it is possible to drag 'n' drop. If not you can manually add them to one and remove from another
[06:46] <Seveas> tyr`, irc help in ##help
[06:46] <minerale> elkbuntu: are the ubuntu servers in south africa ?
[06:46] <elkbuntu> tyr`, this is sooo not the right room for that question.
[06:46] <ardchoille> zazeem: I was told that this is a limitation of the manu standard that gnome is using.
[06:46] <Enverex> cello_rasp, It's a DNS issue afaik
[06:46] <apokryphos> tyr`: /msg ubotu freenode
[06:46] <P4W3R> redcard: yeah i know
[06:46] <Seveas> cello_rasp, not since earlier this year
[06:46] <zazeem> o :/
[06:46] <elkbuntu> minerale, i have no idea where they are
[06:46] <P4W3R> redcard: has 5 years
[06:46] <zazeem> is there any way to combine the three menus at the bottom into one menu?
[06:46] <zazeem> aplications places system all into one?
[06:47] <Seveas> zazeem, add the alternative menu applet to your panel
[06:47] <ardchoille> zazeem: This is why I switched window managers in gnome, I can change the menu system around the way I want it ;)
[06:47] <sertinell> hi
[06:47] <P4W3R> if i format in hfs or dos, some tools get rid of the bad blocks,
[06:47] <redcard> P4W3R: It doesn't get rid of the bad blocks.
[06:47] <Callahad> I'd like to export my home across campus. I'll mainly be using macs, but will want to access it from a PC on occasion. How can I decide between netatalk/samba, nfs/samba, or just samba? I've only briefly worked with nfs, and such sharing still seems to be a bit of black magic to me.
[06:47] <P4W3R> ignore them
[06:47] <P4W3R> or something
[06:47] <redcard> You're not listening.  It marks them as bad.  The OS just goes over it.
[06:47] <nathan> is there a place to get a list of official mirrors?
[06:47] <Seveas> redcard, bad blocks means you have to buy a new disk
[06:47] <P4W3R> but if i format in ext or reiser
[06:47] <khoda> so i just installed from the alternate cd, and when i boot my computer makes like 5 beeps
[06:47] <sertinell> Wath gcc-flags are used in ubuntu-ppc ??
[06:47] <Seveas> nathan, yes, but that place is also down
[06:48] <Seveas> !archvie
[06:48] <ruoho> but u cant change the security repo. theres only 1 afaik
[06:48] <P4W3R> the bad blocks are there
[06:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about archvie - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:48] <Seveas> !archive
[06:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about archive - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:48] <GG_Allin> has anyone managed to get the intel pro wireless 3945 card to work in Ubuntu?  mine doesn't seem to get an IP address from my DHCP server, even though I enabled DHCP, etc.
[06:48] <Seveas> meh
[06:48] <apokryphos> nathan: /msg ubotu mirrors
[06:48] <Warbo> khoda: Do the POST messages come up?
[06:48] <mimithebrain> if there other mirrors that ubuntu supports that I can use
[06:48] <mimithebrain> oh...
[06:48] <jbholman> callahad: i've found that sshfs is easiest
[06:48] <redcard> The symptom you are describing is a hardware failure.    You might mitigate it by ignoring the blocks, but you will eventually lose the drive.
[06:48] <khoda> so i just installed from the alternate cd, and when i boot my computer makes like 5 beeps and nothing else happens
[06:48] <apokryphos> mimithebrain: /msg ubotu mirrors
[06:48] <Seveas> mimithebrain, just be patient
[06:48] <omac> Callahad: try not using netatalk and samba.  try ssh, scp...you connect and get the files and you are in and out.
[06:48] <nry> I have a SCSI HDD with bas blocks, any Idea to restore them
[06:48] <Seveas> nry, buy a new disk
[06:48] <redcard> I gotta go get some lunch, but if you're looking for a tool like what apple's does, we don't have such a tool.   Check your RAM, drives and stuff are inserted right
[06:49] <Callahad> jbholman: I don't believe FUSE or sshfs work on macs. Please correct me if I'm wrong
[06:49] <abeco> Warbo do you know about other program to transform into .amv?
[06:49] <Enverex> P4W3R, If it's a drive made in the last 6 years and you're seeing bad blocks, that means it's about to die. The drive hides bad blocks using reserved space initially, transparent to the PC itself. If you start seeing them it means there are a LOT.
[06:49] <nry> Seveas, nice answer man
[06:49] <sertinell> Wath gcc-flags are used in ubuntu-ppc ??
[06:49] <mimithebrain> Seveas: sorry, it wasn't me that posted the original question, I just expanded it ;)
[06:49] <khoda> Warbo: I just installed, rebooted. used grub to get into windows. rebooted windows. then this happened. i didn't change anything
[06:49] <jbholman> callahad: i actually have no clue about macs, i failed to see that in your question.  sry.
[06:49] <definity> wait!
[06:49] <ubuntufan> Seveas: if i may ask, why is it down?
[06:49] <EvanCarroll> Is there a site where they have a tech status servers etc?
[06:49] <Callahad> omac: That's what I've been doing, however, I'd like to be able to let Vim and other local tools run amok in my remote home.
[06:50] <Warbo> abeco: The only transcoding programs are avidemux, transcode, ffmpeg (and ffmpeg2theora), VLC and mencoder
[06:50] <Seveas> ubuntufan, I don't know that
[06:50] <java> guys, ubuntu.com is out?
[06:50] <Warbo> abeco: I mean that I know of
[06:50] <definity> how can i get infrared working on ubuntu
[06:50] <geekdom> Hey, I ubuntu newby and need to add packages such as VNC to my ubuntu.   I know to install it is apt-get install xxxx.   What I need to know is how to see what the name of the packages are for ubuntu.   Aptatude just confused me and is there a better tool and how do I use it ?
[06:50] <Enverex> Proprietory formats = Ball suckage
[06:50] <P4W3R> Enverex: ohh that is the reason
[06:50] <Callahad> jbholman: Thanks for the suggestion, anywho, I've been pretty psyched about FUSE - just wish it wasn't locked to linux :)
[06:50] <Warbo> !language
[06:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:50] <khoda> Warbo: I just installed, rebooted. used grub to get into windows. rebooted windows. then this happened. i didn't change anything
[06:50] <Seveas> geekdom, system  admin  synaptic or applications  add/remove
[06:50] <P4W3R>  Enverex: maybe i should trash it
[06:50] <abeco> Warbo and any idea about what hell is RIFF (little-endian) data ?
[06:51] <Enverex> Warbo, No sucking of tennis balls or ping-pong balls?
[06:51] <Warbo> abeco: music, Raw audio
[06:51] <P4W3R>  Enverex: better than lose valuable data
[06:51] <jbholman> callahad: so macs do nfs?
[06:51] <mimithebrain> geekdom: you may not get anything from the repository right now...
[06:51] <abeco> Warbo but is a video...
[06:51] <_atomic> sup
[06:51] <Frizz0> hello
[06:51] <Warbo> abeco: Probably got detected wrong
[06:51] <Thirsteh> If I wanted to DNS redirect incoming connections on a certain host on one machine, directly to another machine (including what port number), would I be using, "A", "CNAME", "Web-forward", or "Web-alias"? (Basically what DynDNS does)
[06:51] <Callahad> jbholman: Since OS X 10.3, I believe.
[06:51] <Seveas> Thirsteh, dns doesn't redirect incoming connections
[06:51] <gzurl> hi guys! can anybody update to security.ubuntu.com at the moment???
[06:51] <khoda> I just installed from the alternate cd. rebooted. got into windows through grub. rebooted in windows aand then my computer made 5 beeps on the reboot and nothing else happened. Whats going on?
[06:51] <Warbo> abeco: Try one of those "file extension" sites that tell you what loads of letter combinations are supposed to represent
[06:52] <HiP_P> hows the ubuntu servers going?
[06:52] <wayward> jbholman, Callahad: I can confirm that 10.3 has NFS
[06:52] <_atomic> I'll find out
[06:52] <mimithebrain> gzurl: reps are down
[06:52] <abeco> Warbo any idea on where can i found more information?
[06:52] <jbholman> callahad: i'm guessing the main problems for you could be firewalls
[06:52] <Callahad> jbholman: As far as I know, Macs natively support NFS, AFP, FTP, WebDAV, and CIFS
[06:52] <Thirsteh> Seveas?
[06:52] <narfnastier> khoda, double check your hardware connections (keyboard, mouse, etc.)
[06:52] <omac> Callahad:rdesktop and terminal server client are available they have something to do with vnc.
[06:52] <khoda> narfnastier: i didn't change anything, though :\
[06:52] <doctormo> are the servers still not up? *sigh*
[06:52] <Callahad> omac: That's something I hadn't thought about. I'll look into it! Thanks!
[06:52] <narfnastier> khoda, the BIOS beeping means that something in hardware has failed
[06:53] <Callahad> jbholman: I'm on a college campus with a pretty liberal access policies, and a ClassB network block heavily guarded from non-academic users. Within the block, I won't have any trouble passing packets.
[06:53] <khoda> narfnastier: just checked and rebooted. same problem - what now?
[06:53] <abeco> well I will continue looking for something, thanks for the help Warbo
[06:53] <HiP_P> ok
[06:53] <omac> gzurl:#deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[06:53] <omac> deb http://ubuntu.rucus.ru.ac.za/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted
[06:53] <omac>     #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[06:53] <omac> deb-src http://ubuntu.rucus.ru.ac.za/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted
[06:53] <omac>     #deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[06:53] <omac> deb http://ubuntu.rucus.ru.ac.za/ubuntu/ dapper-security universe multiverse
[06:53] <omac> #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[06:54] <jbholman> callahad: hey not bad, i have enought problems within my own house with firewalls!
[06:54] <The> yo
[06:54] <narfnastier> khoda, you may need professional tech support
[06:54] <Thirsteh> Seveas, feel free to tell me what DNS does then.
[06:54] <P4W3R> thanks
[06:54] <Protostar> sup all
[06:54] <Callahad> jbholman: I can't wait to move out into the real world and not be able to ssh into myuserid-x.res.carleton.edu from anywhere :(
[06:55] <geekdom> This did not seem to have any packages:   system  admin  synaptic or applications  add/remove
[06:55] <Seveas> Thirsteh, it resoves names into numbers
[06:55] <geekdom> Is there a command line ?
[06:55] <khoda> narfnastier: that's so strange. I had just gotten into windows, everything worked fine. i rebooted and got the beeps
[06:55] <Skaag> Thirsteh: it's a special coffee machine
[06:55] <mimithebrain> geekdom: apt-get install xxx
[06:55] <narfnastier> khoda, hardware always fails unexpectedly
[06:55] <jbholman> callahad: yeah.......get ready, no more static ip for probably the rest of your life
[06:55] <Skaag> geekdom: it's possible that you aren't seeing packages because the repositories are currently down
[06:55] <commctrl> Thirsteh, if you want to run your own dns server, look at bind
[06:55] <geekdom> Apt-get install xxx, but I need to know the exact name of the package
[06:56] <geekdom> ouchy.
[06:56] <Thirsteh> Seveas, so how is resolving a particular subdomain of a site into a different IP than the main server not redirecting?
[06:56] <jbholman> has anybody tried those repos omac posted?
[06:56] <Callahad> jbholman: B... but what about IPv6!? I'd been banking on that, man! :D
[06:56] <commctrl> geekdom, there's a GUI frontend to apt-get, it's called Synaptic
[06:56] <Skaag> Thirsteh: the web server has to honour that new hostname
[06:56] <Seveas> Thirsteh, redirevting is sending traffic to another host tnam originally meant to
[06:56] <Skaag> Thirsteh: and then decide on redirections (or not)
[06:56] <eniac_petrov> hi all
[06:56] <Callahad> geekdom: there's also a text-mode gui to apt-get called aptitude
[06:56] <Skaag> hi eniac_petrov, did you read the topic? :)
[06:57] <Thirsteh> Gosh, whatever.
[06:57] <Skaag> Thirsteh: I'm a DNS guru, ask me ;-)
[06:57] <eniac_petrov> Skaag yes, I am here for it :-D
[06:57] <tmccrary> Hey
[06:57] <Skaag> eniac_petrov: have you come to hold our hands? :-)
[06:57] <Skaag> anyway welcome :)
[06:57] <eniac_petrov> thanks :-D
[06:58] <tmccrary> I got xorg 7.1 compiled and working, my i810 screen rotation works great
[06:58] <cowbud> haha I would ask but meh
[06:58] <Thirsteh> Skaag, I simply want a certain address to resolve to the IP of another machine so I can telnet othercomputer.somesite.com port 7000 and connect to someothersite.com's port 7000, does that make sense?
[06:58] <paiiiiii> 'bash: make: command not found' - what shall i install?
[06:58] <bobbyd> hi
[06:58] <Callahad> Damnit! I just hit an apt-get update. The first two servers it checked were non-Canonical/Ubuntu repositories. I saw things working and almost jumped out of my chair :(
[06:58] <Protostar> Anyone know when the repositories will be back up?
[06:58] <pekay> apt-get install make
[06:58] <Seveas> !compiling paiiiiii
[06:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about compiling paiiiiii - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:58] <Skaag> Thirsteh: sure, no problem, sounds easy enough
[06:58] <bobbyd> does the dapper installer configure for dual core automatically?
[06:58] <tmccrary> however, when I use xsetwacom to rotate my tablet's pen digitizer, I can only rotate one aspect (i.e. stylus or eraser, but not both). Anyone in here have experience with tablet pc's on linux?
[06:58] <zazeem> how do i install a deb file?
[06:58] <Seveas> Protostar, as soon as we know, you know
[06:58] <Skaag> Thirsteh: are you in control of the primary domain?
[06:58] <Thirsteh> Skaag, what I'm asking is what type to use; A, CNAME, Web-forward or Web-alias?
[06:58] <Seveas> !deb > zazeem
[06:59] <Protostar> ok cool
[06:59] <bobbyd> zazeem: dpgk -i name_of_package
[06:59] <paiiiiii> pekay: the thing is that i dont have any internet on the laptop, thats the thingy im trying to fix...
[06:59] <Skaag> Thirsteh: you want an A or PTR
[06:59] <eniac_petrov> zazeem sudo apt-get somefile.deb
[06:59] <Thirsteh> Skaag, thanks, that was the answer I was looking for :)
[06:59] <Skaag> Thirsteh: A record would be ok
[06:59] <eniac_petrov> or from gui
[06:59] <amarokker> can someone tell me how to tweak firefox? I tried the forums- as the topic says, its down.
[06:59] <Callahad> zazeem: either 'sudo gdebi' or 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb' Gdebi is graphical and smart (dependencies), dpkg isn't
[06:59] <bobbyd> Protostar: use the mirrors
[06:59] <bobbyd> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:c5cTOW7xvvMJ:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive+&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=safari
[06:59] <Thirsteh> Skaag, I don't have the PTR option, it's a remote hosting solution which is very limited, there is a DNS admin panel however.
[06:59] <user_> basic question (i hope) would help me trmenedously tho: is there any command to set all file/user rights to default values at once?
[06:59] <Thirsteh> Skaag, but I'll try A :)