[12:00] <twb_> now...
[12:01] <twb_> if i install another hd, will windows be on it?
[12:01] <NeoGeo64> help how do i get ubuntu to see the truetype fonts ive copied into the TTF directory
[12:01] <NeoGeo64> ive tried running fc-cache
[12:01] <cikilin> witch program sees dvd?
[12:01] <twb_> help!
[12:01] <khermans> twb_, ???  dont put windows anywhere!
[12:02] <khermans> twb_, its a virusand spreading fast
[12:02] <joseph> SO, I am having trouble with my soundcard. XMMS won't play because it says the resource is busy. I do an fuser and get /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p:    6783m    What is that?
[12:02] <thoreauputic> twb_: what on earth do you mean?
[12:02] <khermans> joseph, try disabling the sound server
[12:02] <joseph> So, it thinks the pcm is in use... but it isn't
[12:02] <flugh> any easy fix on getting the icons for kde apps to show up in my gnome menus?
[12:02] <unome> twb_: if you mean you can mount it on the new hd then yes.
[12:02] <joseph> khermans, how? kill that job?
[12:03] <khermans> joseph, System -> Preferences -> Sound
[12:03] <twb_> ok, as of now i have Ubuntu and XP, but i need to install another 40gb hd
[12:03] <topyli> joseph: it's in use by esd probably. tell xmms to use esd for output
[12:03] <flugh> joseph, try 'fuser -k -n file /dev/snd/.... etc' the -k will kill the offending process (a -v would probably tell you more about the process too)
[12:04] <joseph> topli, I tried that... still no working.
[12:04] <khermans> joseph, try my sggestion
[12:04] <twb_> if i install a second HD, how can i set it up to cantain the same info as the other?
[12:04] <khermans> twb_, you mean clone it?
[12:05] <joseph> khermans, ok, but I have no sound clicks or system sounds coming out now... but ok.
[12:05] <twb_> is that possible?
[12:05] <khermans> twb_, "dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
[12:05] <twb_> ....where do i put that?
[12:05] <joseph> Well, do the fuser -k seemed to do it.
[12:06] <thoreauputic> twb_: if you use dd, be *very* sure you have your input and output right
[12:06] <joseph> Damn, that killed Asterisks music on hold.
[12:07] <twb_> ok, heres my situation...
[12:08] <kab> anyone that knows where I can get a package for glade--
[12:08] <khermans> im off to play some softball...
[12:08] <wazdmin> i installed the nvidia drivers..it was really easy..i havent had any problems so far
[12:08] <twb_> i need my current HD setup(im moving away from home) my dad needs XP, is there a way i can put my xp on a new HD??
[12:08] <salvia> can anyone help me here with openvpn ?
[12:08] <Seveas> joseph, fuser -k kills the process using that file...
[12:08] <khermans> someone msg me if they know how to set a SYSTEM WIDE proxy for all protocol piping to a socks v4 proxy
[12:08] <wazdmin> i am still trying to fix my sound problem though
[12:09] <kab> twb_, use norton ghost,
[12:09] <Seveas> khermans, system -> prefs -> network proxy
[12:09] <Seveas> that's as system-wide as it gets...
[12:09] <cikilin> what player do i need to see a dvd movie?
[12:09] <kab> twb_, or in linux use dd if=/dev/hdaX of=windows.iso, then when you have windows.iso put in other sys and move to this
[12:09] <secata> Hi all
[12:10] <Seveas> cikilin: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[12:10] <wazdmin> i know what my problem with sound is ..i just dont know how to fix it..i know from other people helping me that i dont have the correct sound modules loaded...what can i do to get the right ones
[12:10] <khermans> Seveas, sweet dude!!!
[12:10] <khermans> Seveas, i had no idea that wes there -- was it in warty too?
[12:10] <Seveas> khermans, iirc yes
[12:10] <twb_> windows.iso will go on a cd right
[12:11] <Seveas> twb_, no
[12:11] <twb_> bom bom bom im so confused...
[12:11] <Seveas> twb_, it is not a cd-image iso
[12:11] <Seveas> the .iso extension is misleading, kab should not have used that ::)
[12:12] <kab> twb_, you have a partition with windows XP in /dev/hdaX
[12:12] <twb_> is that a question?
[12:13] <Alek> Hoe to remove apache 2????
[12:13] <thoreauputic> Alek: sudo apt-get remove apache2  ?
[12:14] <wazdmin> my comp runs so much better in a kde enviorment..i wonder y
[12:14] <secata> How do I write a file to a disk-image?
[12:14] <topyli> wazdmin: your box is kde-optimized :)
[12:14] <Alek> thoreauputic, ....broken package
[12:15] <Alek> it is apache2-common
[12:15] <highvoltage> secata: you'd have to mount the disk-image rw
[12:15] <jasoncohen> what the hell is wrong with the webmin from backports? first, it doesn't work with sudo. you have to have your root account enabled. secondly, it says my ssh server isn't configured, and apparently the configuration for the webmin-sshd is blank.
[12:15] <highvoltage> (and have some space available in the fs)
[12:15] <secata> Can't mount it, as it has no fs...trying to make a boot disk image for Bochs
[12:16] <ShadowsD> I can't install the nvidia-glx drivers in Synaptic Package Manager.. any ideas?
[12:16] <Seveas> jasoncohen, welcome to backports, they suck sometimes :)
[12:16] <secata> I have heard of something called "rawwrite"?  But the only references I get is for the windows version...
[12:16] <highvoltage> secata: so you want to create a fs first?
[12:16] <jasoncohen> Seveas, should i use a pin so that ubuntu packages are used over backports?
[12:17] <secata> No,  I want to write the file directly to the disk, as it is a boot sector...
[12:17] <thoreauputic> Seveas: I don't think problems with webmin are restricted to backports, judging from the number of times this has cropped up before
[12:17] <wazdmin> anyways....srry for repeating but i keep getting a fatal sound server error..i am really worried..i have found people with the same problem but i cant find a solution
[12:17] <secata> well, directly to the disk image that is...
[12:17] <topyli> jasoncohen: as root, create a webmin user for yourself and give it rights. then you can disable root again
[12:17] <Seveas> jasoncohen, whatever suits you best
[12:17] <highvoltage> secate: dd if=/dev/zero of=disk.img bs=512 count=2048000
[12:17] <highvoltage> mkfs.reiserfs disk.img
[12:17] <jasoncohen> topyli, yeah, i already did that. now i'm trying to figure out why it's not seeing my ssh server
[12:17] <Seveas> thoreauputic, webminis indeed not the best packaged thing in Ubuntu
[12:17] <pinky_> when I try and download things I always keep XMP parsing error: syntax error
[12:17] <highvoltage> mount disk.img /mnt/
[12:17] <Seveas> but it's in universe
[12:18] <pinky_> *XM:
[12:18] <jasoncohen> i didn't have this problem in sid
[12:18] <pinky_> :(
[12:18] <secata> Thanks...will try that...
[12:19] <cikilin> i installed mplayer and i cant see a dvd
[12:19] <cikilin> why?
[12:19] <Seveas> cikilin, you might need libdvdcss2
[12:19] <ShadowsD> im having trouble installing the nvidia-glx drivers
[12:19] <cmatheson> ShadowsD: what kind of trouble?
[12:19] <cikilin> i installed too
[12:19] <topyli> jasoncohen: weird, my webmin does see the ssh server
[12:19] <ShadowsD> they won't install
[12:19] <jasoncohen> Seveas, damn backports- webmin from hoary worked fine
[12:19] <cmatheson> ShadowsD: be specific
[12:20] <topyli> jasoncohen: it's from backports too
[12:20] <ShadowsD> I keep getting an error, hold on, let me just get the error
[12:20] <Seveas> jasoncohen, aptitude purge webmin, disable backports, aptitude install webmin
[12:21] <jasoncohen> topyli, already did that
[12:21] <topyli> Seveas: won't apt find the backports webmin from the cache? :)
[12:21] <jasoncohen> and then i installed webmin from backports and now it works
[12:21] <jasoncohen> lol
[12:21] <topyli> gotta clean up
[12:21] <topyli> heh
[12:22] <a_monkey> how do i install something from apt into /usr/local ?
[12:22] <topyli> a_monkey: you don't. why?
[12:22] <Seveas> topyli, right, apt-get update in between :)
[12:22] <thoreauputic> a_monkey: you don't - why would you want to?
[12:22] <Seveas> a_monkey, you don't (and really shouldn't)
[12:22] <a_monkey> uh
[12:22] <a_monkey> i want to install python 2.3 separately
[12:23] <a_monkey> blender requires python 2.3 libs
[12:23] <d_i_> how do change a users home dir in terminal ?
[12:23] <thoreauputic> ...
[12:23] <a_monkey> and ubuntu uses 2.4 by default
[12:23] <ShadowsD> cmatheson, heres the error I get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/342
[12:23] <Seveas> a_monkey, you can have both python2.3 and 2.4 installed simultaneously
[12:23] <Xenguy> d_i_: what change?
[12:23] <a_monkey> Seveas: really
[12:23] <a_monkey> Seveas: cool
[12:23] <Seveas> d_i_, usermod..?
[12:23] <d_i_> i want to change a users home dir to /var/www/
[12:23] <Seveas> d_i_, or manyally editing /etc/passwd & /etc/shadow :)
[12:23] <marsh> Hey, would I be correct in assuming that Ubuntu has no 'autodetect' for my change in graphics card?
[12:23] <Madeye> is there forex like application that work under linux
[12:23] <Madeye> ?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> d_i_: can I have some of what you are smoking?
[12:24] <d_i_> huh?
[12:24] <cmatheson> ShadowsD: that's not the error, that's just saying there is an error
[12:24] <Xenguy> d_i_: that sounds like a bad idea - I'll shut up now :-)
[12:24] <cmatheson> ShadowsD: what does it say above that?
[12:24] <Seveas> d_i_, usermod -d does what wou want
[12:24] <thenuke> d_i_: =) why on earth you would want to do something like that :D
[12:25] <Seveas> thenuke, there are very good reasons to do such a thing..
[12:25] <unome> Xenguy: in the US, it is illegal to smoke your own home grown weed :p
[12:25] <twb_> i do i install Ultra ISO
[12:25] <d_i_> well i want to do so that when a user enters<EMAIL_ADDRESS>that they will enter the /var/www folder so they can upload there webpage..
[12:25] <twb_> : ( it wont let me
[12:25] <thenuke> d_i_: you are better off asking how to do the things you want to accomplish, rather than guessing the good solutions by your self and asking how to do that.
[12:25] <Luke> I'm trying to get sound working with alsa. I have an audigy 2 value with my alsa modules compiled in (which should autoload them at boot) but my sound does not work. anyone care to help me troubleshoot through?
[12:25] <wazdmin> im clueless.what is win4lin
[12:25] <ShadowsD> cmatheson: 2 secs
[12:25] <wazdmin> windows in linux ?
[12:25] <Seveas> d_i_, pureftpd/proftpd can do that without changing homedirs
[12:26] <Seveas> d_i_, pureftpd/proftpd can even have complete virtual users
[12:26] <thenuke> and how about symlinks?
[12:26] <thenuke> they should work too
[12:26] <d_i_> Seveas: how?
[12:26] <d_i_> i have installed proftpd
[12:26] <Seveas> d_i_, /usr/share/doc/proftpd
[12:26] <Seveas> (pureftpd can even have accounts defined in a mysql database, I use that)
[12:27] <ShadowsD> cmatheson: heres everything from the terminal http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/345
[12:28] <marsh> that a no? nobody knows if Ubuntu can autodetect the graphics card? Google doesn't say much either. A few people moaning that it doesn't work, but thats about it!
[12:28] <cmatheson> ShadowsD: are you using synaptic to install, or what are you using?
[12:29] <ShadowsD> cmatheson: first it was synaptic, then I tried apt-get install nvidia-glx, same error
[12:29] <cmatheson> marsh: what are you talking about?
[12:29] <cmatheson> ok
[12:29] <marsh> can only find that 'ubuntu device database' in the startbar
[12:29] <pinky_> what is XML parsing error not well formed mean?
[12:30] <pinky_> followed by some other error codes
[12:30] <pinky_> when I try and download packages :(
[12:30] <pinky_> in firefox
[12:30] <cmatheson> ShadowsD: remove the xorg-driver-fglrx package
[12:30] <marsh> cmatheson, I just installed a new graphics card (matrox 450 dual - nothing flash) but now have no graphics. Unlike my old redhat box (with Kudzu) Ubuntu wont se the card, and I can see no autodetect processes
[12:30] <marsh> or autodetect programs!
[12:30] <twb_> whats the command to locate a program?
[12:31] <cmatheson> marsh: just reconfigure X
[12:31] <cmatheson> twb_: locate
[12:31] <pinky_> anyone answer my Q please :(
[12:31] <marsh> and google seems to be backing up my theory that I have to d it by hand :(
[12:31] <cmatheson> pinky_: restart firefox
[12:31] <cmatheson> marsh: it's good for you
[12:31] <pinky_> good plan batman
[12:31] <cmatheson> marsh: or just type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:32] <zeeeee> hi all, how do i safely switch to automake-1.6 as my default automake, instead of automake-1.4?
[12:32] <zeeeee> i believe there's more to it than just overwriting the symlink in /etc/alternatives
[12:32] <cmatheson> zeeeee: do you need it?
[12:32] <marsh> cmatheson, is the dpkg command the way to reconfigure X, or was our first sugestion a different way round?
[12:33] <zeeeee> cmatheson, is it a bad idea to use it?
[12:33] <pinky_> still doesnt work :x
[12:33] <Seveas> zeeeee, sudo update-ulternatives --config automake
[12:33] <Seveas> update-alternatives that is
[12:33] <twb_> pllllllzzzzzz help
[12:33] <cmatheson> zeeeee: i don't think it's bad, i just think that it's a waste of time to fix stuff that isn't broken
[12:33] <cmatheson> marsh: it all works
[12:34] <marsh> cmatheson, just wondered....
[12:34] <zeeeee> cmatheson, oh, i thought you were suggesting the backwards incompatibility defeating the purpose of automake
[12:34] <zeeeee> cmatheson, but yes i'm trying to use the nostdinc option
[12:34] <cmatheson> zeeeee: no, i'm not actually too familiar w/ the new version
[12:34] <marsh> dont mean to be a pain in the arse - just curious to learn
[12:34] <cmatheson> marsh: i like to edit the file by hand.  but the dpkg-reconfigure has a menu-driven system that is "easier" to use if you're not familiar w/ the xorg.config file
[12:34] <twb_> pllllllzzzzzz help
[12:35] <Xenguy> bye
[12:35] <Luke> I'm trying to get sound working with alsa. I have an audigy 2 value with my alsa modules compiled in (which should autoload them at boot) but my sound does not work. anyone care to help me troubleshoot through?
[12:35] <Seveas> twb_, a) you got an answer b) stop repeating c) try to spell correctly....
[12:35] <Dr_Melectaus> w00tage. im finally online with ubuntu !_!
[12:35] <twb_> geez ppl get so irritable
[12:35] <d_i> how to i give rights to allusers on the system to write and read a folder..
[12:36] <Seveas> Dr_Melectaus, it is only your imagination that thinks you are online :)
[12:36] <zeeeee> thanks Seveas
[12:36] <Seveas> d_i, chmod a+rw filename
[12:36] <Dr_Melectaus> Seveas,  i dont give a scoobie, I am so happy i acomplished what i thought was dam near impossable
[12:36] <qqq_> Hei guys, I need minimal ubuntu install only some GUI - X-window system..
[12:37] <Seveas> d_i, you might want to chmod +t filename too, that makes sure no one can delete files from others
[12:37] <Dr_Melectaus> I ave a usb modem which ubuntu didnt like
[12:37] <Seveas> Dr_Melectaus, aha :)
[12:37] <Dr_Melectaus> so i had to bridge te connection
[12:37] <d_i> Seveas ok thanks again :)
[12:37] <qqq_> i tried the expert-install mode, how to install the X with Gnome for example then
[12:37] <Dr_Melectaus> So im useing a dows machine as a gateway
[12:37] <Seveas> Dr_Melectaus, please document your attempts on the wiki, it will be helpful to others
[12:38] <jasoncohen> how often does the update manager check for updates? i used cron-apt in sid. is that necessary in ubuntu?
[12:38] <ryan_> This is the machine Dr_Melectaus / im useing as a gateway
[12:38] <thoreauputic_> qqq_: try ` sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop `
[12:38] <Seveas> qqq_ install the various gnome packages
[12:38] <Seveas> thoreauputic, he didn't want that
[12:38] <thoreauputic_> Seveas: ah, OK
[12:38] <Dr_Melectaus> seveas. i got help from torti- But sure ill take all the info from the convo  and document it for others !_!
[12:39] <qqq_> Seveas: i have to install some X firstly?
[12:39] <Seveas> qqq_, these are the gnome packages installed by default: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/346
[12:39] <Seveas> they will drag in X as dependency
[12:40] <thoreauputic_> Seveas: is that right? In Debian I had to install x-window-system-core or similar?
[12:40] <qqq_> Seveas: it sounds easy, if i could do it this way
[12:40] <Seveas> thoreauputic_, hmm, It *should* install it, that's what the dependency system is for...
[12:40] <topyli> i guess installing gnome-core will take care of everything
[12:41] <DukGalNamu> anyone here play maelstrom?
[12:41] <ateves> what do i have to add to (mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win -t auto -rw) so that every user can access the partition?
[12:41] <ateves> only this command in the console
[12:41] <topyli> DukGalNamu: of course :)
[12:41] <lips> hi all
[12:41] <qqq_> so i do "sudo apt-get install gnome-core" sit back and relax ? :)
[12:41] <Seveas> ateves, -o umask=0000
[12:41] <Seveas> if you mean write with access
[12:41] <DukGalNamu> topyli: ummm, i am getting an error trying to play, its saying timed out waiting for frame 0
[12:41] <topyli> qqq_: check moon phase and wave a dead chicken over the box :)
[12:42] <DukGalNamu> topyli: ever get that before?
[12:42] <thoreauputic_> Seveas: hmm... OK I don't know for sure: I installed Hoary using the "server" option and just did what I used to do with Debian, which was to install the X stuff first...
[12:42] <qqq_> topyli: xexexexe
[12:42] <qqq_> thoreauputic: advise pls:)
[12:42] <thoreauputic_> qqq_: well, doing what Seveas sugests will do no harm at least ;)
[12:42] <qqq_> see i have gimplike software to run on linux (filmgimp aka cinepaint) and I want minimal gui with linux
[12:43] <roberto_> BOA NOITE AMIGOS
[12:43] <topyli> DukGalNamu: dunno, my maelstrom works fine :\
[12:43] <DukGalNamu> topyli: hmmm....
[12:43] <Seveas> roberto_, please watch your caps lock
[12:43] <roberto_> ESTOU PRECISANDO DE UMA AJUDINHA DE VCS QUEM PODE ME AJUDAR
[12:43] <DukGalNamu> achk!!! i don't care that much...
[12:43] <roberto_> ok foi mal
[12:43] <Seveas> roberto_, and we speak english in here as you should be able to see :)
[12:44] <thoreauputic_> qqq_: for really minimal, you can ` sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core xterm ` ;)
[12:44] <Seveas> thoreauputic, lol :)
[12:44] <lips> advise needed: do you know how to contact shipit department of canonical? i organise an event, so i want to order quite a lot of cd's. i'm sending them emails, and see no reply...
[12:44] <Luke> I'm trying to get sound working with alsa. I have an audigy 2 value with my alsa modules compiled in (which should autoload them at boot) but my sound does not work. any suggestions?
[12:44] <roberto_> no speak inglish
[12:44] <Seveas> lips, when is the event?
[12:44] <lips> 3rd-7th august
[12:44] <Seveas> roberto, portugues..?
[12:44] <lips> Seveas 3rd-7th august
[12:45] <Luke> roberto_: hablas espanol?
[12:45] <Seveas> lips, come to the next CC meeting (#ubuntu-meeting, july 5th, 22:00 UTC) and talk to mako
[12:45] <elgordo123> Bad partition here!    I am trying to make an image ag a 23.9 GB partition onto a ext3 partition.   I keep getting "File Size Exceeded".    I thought ext3 file size can be as big as volume.  Is that not right?
[12:46] <lips> great advice, thank you
[12:46] <elgordo123> I have 84GB on that ext3 partition...
[12:46] <terje> i hate to be so utterly retarded but how do I start ftpd?
[12:47] <Seveas> terje, which ftpd did you install?
[12:47] <roberto_> hablas uno poquito
[12:47] <mae> apt-get install vsftpd && /etc/init.d/vsftpd start
[12:47] <lips> Seveas just help me with UTC, wikipedia don't know it - is it greenwich time?
[12:47] <Seveas> mae, the postinst script will start it :)
[12:47] <mae> actually you shouldn't have to start it manually
[12:47] <Luke> roberto_: ?hablas espanol?
[12:47] <roberto_> jo brasileiro (brazil)
[12:47] <mae> Seveas, :)
[12:47] <Seveas> lips, indeed, try the command date --utc
[12:47] <thoreauputic_> lips: yes, UTC is equivalent
[12:47] <roberto_> nao
[12:48] <terje> that's what I wanted mae, thanks. I didn't install ftpd I guess.
[12:48] <Luke> ah
[12:48] <Seveas> lips, it'll be midnight or 1am in poland...
[12:48] <Luke> roberto_: i dont speak porteguese =)
[12:48] <wazdmin> has anyone ever experienced a fatal soun server error message..cpu over load aborting now..if so..what is the problem
[12:48] <elgordo123> terje.  I like to use proftpd for a ftp server
[12:48] <Seveas> roberto_, #ubuntu-pt / #ubuntu-pr
[12:48] <Seveas> roberto_, #ubuntu-pt / #ubuntu-br
[12:48] <lips> Seveas OK, thank you once again
[12:49] <elgordo123> Isn't ext3 file size can be as big as volume right?
[12:49] <Luke> I'm trying to get sound working with alsa. I have an audigy 2 value with my alsa modules compiled in (which should autoload them at boot) but my sound does not work. any suggestions?
[12:49] <cmatheson> Luke: turn up the volume
[12:49] <roberto_> seveas thanks
[12:49] <wazdmin> i get same prolems
[12:49] <Luke> cmatheson: done so already
[12:52] <joseph> I can't share my soundcard between asterisk and xmms!
[12:52] <roberto_> obrigado a todos que  me passaram dicas das outras lista
[12:52] <joseph> Why is that.
[12:52] <joseph> If I load asterisk I XMMS says pcm is in use.
[12:52] <qqq_> thoreauputic: can I pm you?
[12:52] <joseph> If I stop asterisk I can play mp3s.
[12:52] <thoreauputic> qqq_: OK
[12:53] <Seveas> joseph: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[12:54] <sktrdie> hello It's my first time on ubuntu
[12:54] <sktrdie> I would need some help
[12:54] <sktrdie> first off... how do I isntall apps from the package system?
[12:54] <joseph> It will play if asterisk is not running.
[12:54] <cmatheson> sktrdie: run 'synaptic' if you want a graphical thing, otherwise go w/ 'aptitude' from the command-line
[12:55] <sktrdie> cmatheson.. isn't it apt-get?
[12:55] <joseph> Seveas: xmms will play when asterisk isn't running.
[12:55] <cmatheson> sktrdie: use aptitude instead
[12:55] <cmatheson> sktrdie: aptitude is a smarter front-end to apt-get
[12:56] <sktrdie> ??
[12:56] <sktrdie> i'm confused
[12:56] <sktrdie> o well
[12:56] <sktrdie> so for example
[12:56] <^thehatsrule^> apt-get is CLI...
[12:56] <sktrdie> aptitude mplayer?
[12:56] <^thehatsrule^> command line
[12:56] <^thehatsrule^> if you like console, just use that
[12:56] <joseph> When I run asterisk, xmms can't access the soundcard
[12:56] <^thehatsrule^> so use, apt-get update
[12:56] <^thehatsrule^> then
[12:56] <^thehatsrule^> apt-get install mplayer
[12:56] <sktrdie> if I do apt-get mplayer it says Invalid Operation mplayer
[12:56] <sktrdie> o install
[12:57] <^thehatsrule^> first update tho
[12:57] <cmatheson> sktrdie: 'aptitude install mplayer'
[12:57] <joseph> Oh well... I guess I can't use both asterisk and xmms at the same time on ubuntu... damn, I hate the thought of going back to mandrake.
[12:57] <joseph> I know it's just a config, but hell...
[12:57] <cmatheson> joseph: then freaking fix it
[12:57] <joseph> cmatheson, I have no idea how.
[12:58] <cmatheson> just tell them to use esd
[12:58] <joseph> I have no idea how to share the soundcard on this thing.
[12:58] <wshaw> nalioth are you here
[12:59] <sktrdie> ^thehatrule^ it says that it couldnt find the package
[12:59] <Seveas> joseph, make both use esd and you're set. Ranting will get you nowhere...
[01:00] <joseph> Seveas, if I could decode what you mean, I would try it.
[01:00] <sktrdie> any help??
[01:00] <struggler> intellistation reboot fails with 'GRUB HARD DRIVE ERROR' on reboot to finish install. Can someone help?
[01:00] <cmatheson> sktrdie: start up aptitude
[01:00] <cmatheson> and search for mplayer
[01:01] <Seveas> joseph, for xmms I already gave the answer, for asterisk you will have to dig through the configuration
[01:01] <sktrdie> cmatheson: can't I do it with apt-get?
[01:01] <cmatheson> sktrdie: have you added universe/multiverse to your repositories
[01:01] <cmatheson> sktrdie: DON'T use apt-get
[01:01] <cmatheson> sktrdie: just type 'aptitude'
[01:01] <cmatheson> sktrdie: and then hit '?' and read the instructions
[01:01] <jasoncohen> libgnutls11-dev appears to be a broken package. apt-get install libgnutls11-dev  Depends: libgnutls11 (= 1.0.16-13) but 1.0.16-13ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[01:01] <cmatheson> sktrdie: and then hit '/' to search
[01:01] <joseph> Seriously... if I go into xmms, my only options are alsa, oss, and esound... is esound esd?
[01:01] <jasoncohen> anyone else notice this problem in hoary?
[01:01] <cmatheson> joseph: yes
[01:02] <joseph> It is set to that... and it will not work with asterisk running... does that mean asterisk is using esd also?
[01:02] <leo> heya.  anyone here running ubuntu on either a compaq r4000 or HP zv6000 series laptop?
[01:02] <Seveas> joseph, no, that means asterisk is *not* using esd
[01:03] <Seveas> if both would use it, you could hear sounds from both....
[01:03] <joseph> ah... so, I have to change asterisk to use esd...
[01:03] <Seveas> yes
[01:05] <joseph> hmmm, no where does it mention for asterisk using esd... I will have to research this more.
[01:06] <lcarlos> how can i play subtitles in ubuntu???
[01:07] <yuacht> lcarlos, that isn't really a ubuntu matter
[01:07] <cmatheson> lcarlos: you need to be way more specific... what player are you using, what kind of file is it, etc
[01:07] <js_> whats the reason ubuntu installs rsyncd?
[01:08] <lcarlos> ok
[01:08] <ateves> hi! i tried to get amarok singing under ubuntu, but no plugin works, xine, gstreamer and so on. it's a basic soundblaster card (ALSA) and all system sounds are played
[01:09] <lcarlos> is an avi file and i don't know which player can play subtitles
[01:09] <TovAre> most can
[01:09] <mauper> sigh, any ideas where I can get libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 ?
[01:09] <sktrdie> lcarlos: download VLC
[01:09] <TovAre> which player are you using?
[01:09] <Seveas> ateves, make sure it uses esd..
[01:09] <lcarlos> i have VLC
[01:09] <zeeeee> --db-attach=yes --verbose --tool=memcheck --leak-check=yes --leak-resolution=high
[01:09] <punkass> anyone have ubuntu on a acer 4101 laptop
[01:09] <TovAre> press s for subtitles
[01:09] <zeeeee> woops sorry
[01:10] <lcarlos> but i don't know how to play subtitles
[01:10] <cmatheson> lcarlos: mplayer, totem... probably most of them can.  but you'll need the corresponding subtitles file afaik
[01:10] <TovAre> not all avis have subtitles.
[01:10] <HaRDaWaY> hi people
[01:10] <Seveas> mauper, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[01:10] <ateves> Seveas: it does
[01:11] <mauper> Seveas: thnx
[01:12] <HaRDaWaY> i have a toshiba satellite m40-145, with wifi ipw2200, when put on power on wifi's button, my ubuntu tells me a lot of warning messages of uhci_usb, and when i make: modprobe ipw2200 it tell me: ipw2200: unable to send command TX_POWER, can you help me please?
[01:12] <terje> does anyone know how to set default answers for the live CD such that the users don't get prompted for any questions when the CD boots? I've already fixed the isolinux boot stuff but I'm wondering about the other stuff.
[01:13] <mauper> Seveas: yep, hyades runs :)
[01:13] <terje> questions being: default language, keyboard, etc.
[01:13] <terje> I'm trying to create a sweedish chef live CD that just plays clips of the sweedish chef when it boots.
[01:13] <terje> for my sweedish co-worker :)
[01:14] <terje> I'm there, except for the nagging questions.
[01:14] <jasoncohen> i tried adding backport deb-src lines but it failed. are there no src packages available?
[01:14] <BockBilbo> is it possible to have kde and gnome installed on a same pc w/o compatibility pronlems?
[01:14] <Seveas> HaRDaWaY, google for your laptop model, some need an intricate trick before the wireless works
[01:14] <yuacht> terje, hehe, i'm swe ;)
[01:14] <Seveas> jasoncohen, indeed
[01:15] <terje> yuacht, I'll send you the link to the iso when I'm done :)
[01:15] <yuacht> ;)
[01:15] <yuacht> do so
[01:15] <chrissturm> terje: do the live cds ask questions?
[01:16] <jasoncohen> Seveas, damn, backports is crap, heh
[01:16] <arentie> My wifi card is a Linksys PCI WMP54G v2.  I'm having difficulty finding a driver that works with NDISWrapper.  Does anyone know of a site where I may acquire a driver that works?
[01:16] <cyphase> http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/ - Bush's Favorite Phrase
[01:16] <terje> yes, they ask for your language preferences.
[01:16] <jasoncohen> Seveas, lol, my firefox 1.0.4 from backports won't let me install extensions. it says i need to upgrade to 1.0.4
[01:16] <Seveas> jasoncohen, you can email John Dong to give you access to the source
[01:16] <Dr_Melectaus> shouls a .asx stream play in music player?
[01:16] <chrissturm> terje: i know that this will be easier with the next ubuntu version. but theres surely a solution now too
[01:16] <Seveas> jasoncohen, you don't need FF from backports
[01:17] <Seveas> jasoncohen: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4
[01:17] <HaRDaWaY> Seveas, i am looking for help in google, from 2 months ago
[01:17] <HaRDaWaY> :S
[01:17] <jasoncohen> Seveas, if it's 1.0.4, why would it show as 1.0 ?
[01:17] <ateves> d'oh amarok doesn't sing at all
[01:17] <ateves> naa
[01:17] <BockBilbo> Seveas, is it possible to have gnome and kde at the same time?
[01:17] <jasoncohen> BockBilbo, yes
[01:17] <Seveas> jasoncohen, ENOIDEA
[01:18] <Seveas> BockBilbo, of course
[01:18] <jasoncohen> Seveas, i regret using backports now
[01:18] <arentie> My wifi card is a Linksys PCI WMP54G v2.  I'm having difficulty finding a driver that works with NDISWrapper.  Does anyone know of a site where I may acquire a driver that works?
[01:18] <Dr_Melectaus> shouls a .asx stream play in music player?
[01:19] <BockBilbo> but, i remember having problems with sound and some other stuff in debian when having both isntalled
[01:19] <Seveas> mplayer can handle that Dr_Melectaus
[01:19] <BockBilbo> :S
[01:19] <Dr_Melectaus> okies
[01:19] <BockBilbo> ok
[01:19] <Seveas> if you have w32codecs installed
[01:19] <BockBilbo> so im gonna install ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[01:19] <Dr_Melectaus> Seveas, hw do i get them Seveas
[01:19] <Seveas> from mplayerhq.hu
[01:19] <cafuego> BockBilbo: Whoa, living dangerously.
[01:19] <Dr_Melectaus> ok thanks
[01:20] <sktrdie> I cant get apt-get to work
[01:20] <hartmanr> ?
[01:20] <BockBilbo> cafuego, why do u say that?
[01:20] <hartmanr> is there a msn msger for ubuntu
[01:20] <hartmanr> ?
[01:20] <sktrdie> any package i say it tells me that it couldnt find it
[01:20] <jasoncohen> BockBilbo, he's probably just being sarcastic
[01:20] <Seveas> hartmanr, yes, installed by default
[01:20] <hartmanr> cool thans
[01:20] <BockBilbo> i see
[01:20] <Seveas> hartmanr, applications -> internet -> gaim
[01:20] <qqq_> Guys, does anyone know what's that error msg: (EE) NV(0): No valid FB address in PCI config space
[01:20] <TovAre> I just installed ubuntu. Where can I find the monitor configuration tool?
[01:20] <jasoncohen> sktrdie, you have to add sources and then apt-get update
[01:20] <cafuego> Maybe just a little bit. I should have added a ';-)'
[01:20] <sktrdie> jasoncohen? how do I do that?
[01:21] <Seveas> TovAre, there is none :)
[01:21] <jasoncohen> sktrdie, http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[01:21] <Seveas> TovAre, what are you trying to accomplish?
[01:21] <Seveas> jasoncohen, BAD IDEA!
[01:21] <Seveas> that has backports and marillat by default...
[01:21] <TovAre> I would like 1600 resolution on my 21", not 640 like it is now.
[01:21] <hartmanr> next ?
[01:22] <Seveas> TovAre: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:22] <kanichEEE> Where I can find a guide to install nvidia drivers?
[01:22] <hartmanr> what about a cisco vpn client?
[01:22] <Seveas> kanichEEE: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:22] <arentie> yeah, I need help installing a cisco vpn client too
[01:22] <Seveas> hartmanr, try openvpn (not installed by default, but available from the repositories)
[01:22] <hartmanr> arentie: where did you get the client from?
[01:23] <hartmanr> k
[01:23] <hartmanr> thanx: seveas
[01:24] <kanichEEE> Seveas, and for the nforce2 mobo chipset i dont need anything no?
[01:24] <Dr_Melectaus> whats the command to apt get (or what ever it is) gstreamer0-1.8-mad_0.8.9-0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[01:24] <cafuego> kanichEEE: No, that's fully supported.
[01:24] <arentie> apt get install (application)
[01:24] <kanichEEE> k thanks.
[01:24] <Seveas> kanichEEE, maybe for the onboard network card
[01:25] <lcarlos> how can i install bochs???
[01:25] <thoreauputic> Dr_Melectaus: i think you want ` sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad ` ?
[01:25] <sktrdie> jasoncohen: extra repositories?
[01:25] <Dr_Melectaus> thanks thoreauputic
[01:25] <thoreauputic> np
[01:25] <sktrdie> don't i need to install just the apt-get packages?
[01:25] <arentie> Dr: what thor said will work better! :)
[01:25] <Seveas> sktrdie: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:25] <z|bandito> hi
[01:25] <Seveas> sktrdie: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:25] <z|bandito> i'm installing kubuntu on an older laptop, and it gives kernel choices to install; linux-386, linux-image-386, and linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 ... i am guessing that the first two are 2.4 based kernels, with the last choice being a 2.6 kernel, but what's the difference between linux-386 and linux-image-386 , for example?  anything else?
[01:25] <Dr_Melectaus> arentie, i want it so i can play Mp3's
[01:26] <Seveas> z|bandito, they actually are all the same :)
[01:26] <Dr_Melectaus> and gstreamer0-1.8-mad_0.8.9-0ubuntu4_i386.deb is the one that plays mp3's isnt it?
[01:26] <z|bandito> lol.. o.O
[01:26] <Seveas> linux-386 and l-i-386 are mere metapackages
[01:26] <pgidz> terje you want to look at this and see if it helps https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[01:26] <TovAre> Another question, I havnt gotten my wireless drivers upn running yet, but apparently sudo requires network access?
[01:26] <thoreauputic> Dr_Melectaus: just use the command I gave you above
[01:26] <Seveas> install linux-386 though, it will facilitate easy upgrading
[01:27] <Seveas> z|bandito, a word of advise: KDE is a resource hog and not suitable for older machines
[01:27] <Dr_Melectaus> thoreauputic, will it enable me to play mp3s?
[01:27] <thoreauputic> Dr_Melectaus: with totem or rhythmbox, yes
[01:27] <z|bandito> well, i thought gnome would probably be faster, but the installation was choking on python and i thought i would see if i could get something on the hdd with it
[01:28] <z|bandito> it's weird though, as the live cd boots fine
[01:28] <Dr_Melectaus> thoreauputic: says there already installed
[01:28] <Dr_Melectaus> but i cant play mp3's oddly
[01:28] <thoreauputic> Dr_Melectaus: you can also use beep-media-player, which plays mp3 by default - just enable esound output
[01:28] <z|bandito> so it can't be an inherent incompatibility.. ubuntu actually has provided the best hw support for that box so far of a few distros
[01:28] <Dr_Melectaus> where can i get hold of beep media player thoreauputic
[01:29] <sktrdie> does anyone here have  apowerbook with Ubuntu?
[01:29] <thoreauputic> Dr_Melectaus: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[01:29] <thoreauputic> Dr_Melectaus: it's in the universe repository
[01:30] <jakobbg> APM is not available on default setup - how do I make it available for my laptop?
[01:31] <TovAre> what can I do when sudo doesnt work? It complains about host lookup.
[01:32] <jseattle> hello nalioth
[01:32] <sara_poo__> whats the default cd-recording application with a ubuntu install?
[01:32] <sara_poo__> running gnome
[01:32] <Seveas> TovAre, do you have a root account enabled?
[01:32] <sktrdie> damn.. apt-get doesnt seem to find anything
[01:32] <sktrdie> how do I update it with every app
[01:32] <Seveas> sktrdie, post your /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:32] <bassgoon> for the ppc livecd should I boot with a -powerpc3 on a g3?
[01:33] <Seveas> sara_poo__, gnomebaker or graveman
[01:33] <sara_poo__> Seveas, thanks, what one do you prefer?
[01:33] <sktrdie> Seveas? what?
[01:33] <sara_poo__> Seveas, for disc -> disc backups
[01:33] <Seveas> sara_poo__, neither, I like both
[01:33] <sara_poo__> Seveas, lol, ok.  What one do you think i should start with, for disc -> disc backups
[01:34] <Seveas> gnomebaker is fine
[01:34] <sktrdie> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/347
[01:34] <sktrdie> this is my
[01:34] <sktrdie> source.list
[01:34] <sara_poo__> Seveas, thanks
[01:34] <sktrdie> but apt-get doesnt seem to fetch any package
[01:34] <unome> Seveas: where do I go to mail/access in Ubuntu?
[01:34] <sktrdie> I've tried apt-get mplayer and nothing
[01:35] <daniminas> hello room.. i'm searching for a package.. xdialog..
[01:35] <Seveas> sktrdie, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/348
[01:35] <Seveas> copy the changes...
[01:35] <sysrq>  /topic
[01:35] <thoreauputic> daniminas: in the universe repository
[01:36] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[01:36] <ubotu> repositories is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:36] <kanichEEE> Has anyone tried this? http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver - and what differences has with the official one?
[01:36] <sysrq> hrmm guess it's just the one mirror that I use that stopped running it's ftpd heh
[01:36] <Seveas> unome, what do you mean..?
[01:36] <sktrdie> Seveas: ok changed. now what?
[01:36] <daniminas> ok =)
[01:36] <unome> Seveas: in sendmail ... usually it's /etc/mail/access
[01:37] <Seveas> kanichEEE, that one is OK
[01:37] <Seveas> unome, ubuntu uses postfix by default
[01:37] <kanichEEE> Do I get any improvement?
[01:37] <unome> K mate
[01:37] <Seveas> sendmail is the buggiest program ever, it's worse than windows
[01:37] <Seveas> sktrdie, sudo apt-get update
[01:37] <unome> windoze ::spit::
[01:38] <TovAre> sevaas, no it was a fresh install. I need sudo to enable the root account.
[01:39] <sktrdie> Seveas: nice its working
[01:39] <Seveas> TovAre, then boot into recovery mode
[01:39] <Seveas> TovAre, and edit /etc/hosts
[01:39] <Seveas> the line with <IP_ADDRESS> should say: <IP_ADDRESS>   localhost.localdomain localhost YOUR_HOSTNAME
[01:40] <TovAre> oh, ok. Ill try that next time :) Just erased the HD.
[01:40] <sktrdie> Seveas: i just installed mplayer-powerpc
[01:40] <Seveas> heh, ok :)
[01:40] <sktrdie> how do I run it now?
[01:40] <Seveas> sktrdie, applications -> sound & video -> mplayer
[01:40] <Fazer> Hello, does anyone know how to reduce the font size in the console?
[01:40] <sktrdie> Seveas: not there
[01:40] <sktrdie> also if i try typing in terminal
[01:41] <Discipulus> I have it figured out!
[01:41] <Discipulus> where's sly?
[01:41] <unome> Fazer: right click > edit profile > General > Font
[01:41] <Seveas> sktrdie, typing mplayer in the terminal should work...
[01:41] <Fazer> unome: no no, like in the Console (without x11)
[01:41] <unome> oh, you got me there
[01:42] <sktrdie> Seveas.. nope
[01:42] <sktrdie> :(
[01:42] <Seveas> Fazer, you need to boot with the vga=773 option to get 1024x768
[01:42] <sktrdie> I'm afraid I havent setup something
[01:42] <Seveas> sktrdie, then the package has not installed correctly...
[01:42] <IrIT> evening.
[01:42] <wazdmin> can someone help me setup my sound...
[01:42] <Seveas> Fazer, there are other vga= boot options for other resolutions, GIYF :)
[01:43] <Seveas> wazdmin: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[01:43] <arentie> Does anyone know where to get the driver for a Linksys WMP54G v2 wifi card?
[01:43] <wazdmin> no
[01:43] <sktrdie> Seveas: ..
[01:44] <wazdmin> i ask like once every two hours
[01:44] <wazdmin> thats not repeating
[01:44] <pgidz> arentie the windows driver
[01:44] <Seveas> sktrdie, paste the output of dpkg -l *mplayer* on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:44] <Seveas> wazdmin, it is. Stop it.
[01:44] <concept10> wazdmin, it would be better for you to just state the problem not just ask for help
[01:45] <sly> im here dude
[01:45] <sly> im always here i have no life away from the pc
[01:45] <Discipulus> sly, haha
[01:45] <Discipulus> sly, alright, well, I took my computer to my ISP today
[01:45] <Discipulus> sly, and we decided that it's the modem
[01:46] <Discipulus> sly, that before we look to the PC for causing problems, we should look at the modem
[01:46] <sly> as long as they ddnt blame linux im happy
[01:46] <sly> thats what my isp blamed mine on
[01:46] <wazdmin> w/e
[01:46] <Discipulus> sly, so he's gonna see if he has any old US Robotics external modems that work that he could give / sell me
[01:46] <Discipulus> sly, I can chat on AIM, Yahoo!, and IRC just fine
[01:46] <Discipulus> just can't really look at any websites
[01:46] <Discipulus> unless I have 10 minutes to wait between content
[01:46] <Discipulus> lol
[01:47] <sly> seems  you have a real nice isp
[01:47] <sly> all i get off mine is greif
[01:47] <wazdmin> BTW..i have tried posting for about two days now in forums...and i have stated my problem close to twenty times..and around the third this guy tells me to stop repeating my self
[01:47] <abli> hi! i'm trying to to download the install CD via bittorrent using the ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent file, but I get an "urlopen error (111, 'Connection refused')" error. Am I doing something wrong?
[01:47] <Seveas> Discipulus, ehm, that is a known bug in firefox (actually it's a bug in your ISP, but easy to work around in firefox)
[01:47] <Seveas> Discipulus: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[01:48] <bulletbrain> wazdmin, and now you're repeating it in here. j/k ;-)
[01:48] <concept10> wazdmin, good grief, post your problem, dont complain
[01:48] <Seveas> wazdmin, the smart people are at the mailing list. Not at the forums
[01:48] <wazdmin> lmao
[01:48] <wazdmin> u guys are so damn touchy
[01:49] <concept10> wazdmin, okay, I will help you if you stop complaining, lets get to business what is the problem?
[01:49] <Seveas> concept10, his main problem is not listening to what people are suggesting. A few people including myself have already tried to help...
[01:49] <Discipulus> Seveas, nah, it's not that, it's my connection. My modem, actually. ISP shows I'm connected at 46333 (which I should be) but a speed test shows I'm connected at 7100
[01:49] <mae> how can i enable the cups administration tool??
[01:50] <concept10> Seveas, okay - I wasnt here, just walked in
[01:50] <_simple> and then they akill the ident..
[01:50] <Seveas> Discipulus, ah ok, well, keep this one in mind too, it's a very common error :)
[01:50] <caonex> what log file would be appropiate to see what is causing my box to freeze? I suspect that the action has something to do with my power supply. This is because the monitor in my bios is detecting some anormalities. My memory is ok, I am certain because I have run memtest about 3 times already.
[01:50] <Discipulus> Seveas, will do!
[01:51] <Seveas> /var/log/{emerg*,kern*,messages}
[01:51] <sly> i got least 4/5 old 56k's i could have gave you
[01:51] <tahorg> caonex: try to boot without acpi nor apic activated
[01:51] <sly> id happily post em out if u lived in the country
[01:51] <arentie> I've installed openvpn via Synaptic.  How do I run it?
[01:51] <tahorg> arentie: you have to configure it first
[01:52] <tahorg> vi /etc/openvpn/blah.conf
[01:52] <tahorg> then /etc/init.d/openvpn restart
[01:52] <tahorg> arentie: there is no "point-and-click" configuration
[01:53] <MachineScrew> damn I am board
[01:53] <sara_poo__> i just did a default install, and sound doesn't work.  Where do i start?
[01:53] <arentie>  so, what do I insert in place of the "blah"? :
[01:54] <tahorg> arentie: it's no magic command
[01:54] <tahorg> arentie: what you want to do ?
[01:54] <reka> sara_poo__: define "doesn't work". do you get any sound at all? e.g. when you click on the firefox icon on the panel.
[01:54] <tahorg> arentie: you have to write a configuration file for what you want to do
[01:55] <tahorg> then put this conf on /etc/openvpn
[01:55] <tahorg> then reload the service
[01:55] <sara_poo__> reka, when I use mpg321 on a mp3 file it says "Can't find suitable libao driver.  (is device in use?)
[01:55] <sara_poo__> reka, i've tried as root also
[01:55] <arentie> I want to connect to ip address <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:55] <Seveas> sara_poo__, do you hear system sounds..?
[01:55] <sara_poo__> nothing
[01:56] <caonex> tahorg, hmm, how do you acomplish that with grub?
[01:56] <Seveas> sara_poo__, do you have multiple sound cards (like a built-in one and a real card)
[01:56] <sara_poo__> Seveas, nope, just a built in one.  On my previous distro I used the snd_via82xx module, with alsa
[01:56] <caonex> tahorg, you just add that to the line, right after the root indication?
[01:56] <sara_poo__> i have loaded this module
[01:56] <sara_poo__> without an error
[01:57] <Seveas> sara_poo__, hmm, what does amixer say?
[01:58] <sara_poo__> Seveas, not a whole lot, everything appears to be fine
[01:58] <caonex> tahorg, ?
[01:58] <sara_poo__> Seveas, alsamixer notices my card as a VIA 8237 correctly
[01:58] <Seveas> sara_poo__, aha, is it muted in any way..?
[01:59] <sara_poo__> Seveas, doesn't look like it.  'mute' in a terminal is not found... not a command
[01:59] <sara_poo__> (was in my last distro though)
[01:59] <tahorg> caonex: yes
[01:59] <Discipulus> sara_poo__, you could tell through alsamixer if it was muted...
[01:59] <Seveas> sara_poo__, in alsamixer you can see it...
[01:59] <tahorg> caonex: add in the kernel= line
[01:59] <sara_poo__> it's turned up
[01:59] <sara_poo__> the volume
[01:59] <tahorg> caonex: noacpi noapic
[01:59] <Seveas> sara_poo__, try: mpg321 -o esd
[01:59] <sara_poo__> and if it was muted, why would mpg123 give me an error?
[02:00] <caonex> tahorg, what both stand for?
[02:00] <Seveas> sara_poo__, ubuntu uses esd, so mpg321 needs to be told to use esd
[02:00] <caonex> tahorg, why they are not working?
[02:00] <sara_poo__> Seveas, same results with -o esd
[02:00] <Seveas> sara_poo__, ok: what does lsof | grep /dev/dsp say?
[02:00] <ramblingturtle23> sara_poo_: are the codecs installed they must be installed to play mp3
[02:00] <tahorg> caonex: some motherboard are buggy
[02:01] <Fazer> Seveas: GIFY ?
[02:01] <sara_poo__> ramblingturtle23, lemme find a wav, what can i play a wav with?
[02:01] <Fazer> Seveas: How do I set vga=773 ?
[02:01] <tahorg> caonex: this is a workaround, not a real solution
[02:01] <Seveas> Fazer, Google Is Your Friend
[02:01] <ramblingturtle23> sara_poo_: need codec for that to
[02:01] <Fazer> Seveas: Okay, vga=773, does that go in menu.lst for Grub?
[02:01] <Seveas> and you set it in the #kopt line of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:01] <tahorg> caonex: what chipset is on your MB ?
[02:01] <sara_poo__> here is my exact message:  http://pastebin.ca/16584
[02:01] <sara_poo__> error message
[02:02] <Fazer> Seveas: ah i see.
[02:02] <Seveas> Fazer, put it only in the #kopt line
[02:02] <caonex> tahorg, VIA
[02:02] <reka> Fazer: yep, append it to the kernel line
[02:02] <Seveas> and run sudo update-grub afterwards
[02:02] <tahorg> caonex: (I don't say "the problem is this one", I'm just trying to help you to find the problem)
[02:02] <Seveas> reka, DO NOT do that manually :)
[02:02] <Seveas> always use the #kopt line and the debian kernel automagicary :)
[02:03] <Fazer> reka: sweet
[02:03] <reka> Seveas: sorry, he's changing the framebuffer isn't he?
[02:03] <Fazer> Seveas: thanks you.
[02:03] <Seveas> reka, indeed
[02:03] <caonex> tahorg, I suspect my power supply because not the VSB 5V but the other  +5 is turning out to 4.5 -4.6
[02:03] <reka> Fazer: yeah, listen to Seveas instead of me. :)
[02:03] <Seveas> but if you append it to the kernel line, you will lose it on kernel upgrades
[02:03] <Fazer> reka: :)
[02:04] <Fazer> Seveas: that isn't a big deal..
[02:04] <reka> Seveas: ah, ok. :)
[02:04] <caonex> tahorg, so title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-386
[02:04] <caonex> root		(hd0,2)
[02:04] <caonex> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash
[02:04] <caonex> noapci noapic
[02:04] <caonex> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386
[02:04] <caonex> savedefault
[02:04] <caonex> boot
[02:04] <Fazer> Seveas:  after appending to the kernel options line, I run grub-update?
[02:04] <tahorg> caonex: that's ugly :(
[02:04] <Seveas> caonex, DO NOT paste in here
[02:04] <js_> Fazer: no
[02:04] <Seveas> Fazer, yes
[02:04] <Fazer> :)
[02:04] <caonex> Seveas, i am sorry i did not think it was going to be that long.
[02:04] <Fazer> conflict!
[02:04] <Seveas> js_, do not give bad advise...
[02:04] <reka> Seveas: also, i thought you don't need to run anything to update the grub menu, unlike lilo.
[02:04] <caonex> Seveas, i meant to paste one line
[02:05] <tahorg> caonex: if you want to paste /j #flood and tell it
[02:05] <Seveas> reka, well, you do need to if you use the debian zutomagic kernel list features
[02:05] <js_> Fazer: what file did you edit?
[02:05] <caonex> tahorg, or ubuntu.pastebin.com ;), so how should i modify it?
[02:05] <Seveas> reka, you can also edit all kerenl lines manually, but this is easier :)
[02:05] <Fazer> js_: menu.lst
[02:05] <reka> Seveas: righto then
[02:05] <js_> Fazer: have you got grub in your mbr?
[02:05] <Seveas> js_, the # kopt line
[02:06] <js_> Seveas: ok
[02:06] <Fazer> js_: as far as i know, Ubuntu come swith Grub by default.  Which is what I use.
[02:06] <Seveas> Fazer, correct
[02:06] <js_> nevermind then
[02:06] <tahorg> caonex: you have to put the option at the end of the line
[02:06] <Fazer> Its all good.
[02:06] <tahorg> caonex: not on a new line
[02:06] <Seveas> Fazer, to make this change effective, you need to reboot
[02:06] <Seveas> there is no way of doing this without a reboot unfortunately
[02:06] <caonex> tahorg, at the end of the line containing the kernel and the root partition, you mean?
[02:06] <KhaBal> everytime i change my host name and reboot, the host name changes to the old hostname, how can i do it that every reboot the hostname stays the same thing i want
[02:06] <tahorg> caonex: yes
[02:07] <tahorg> caonex: this is a kernel option, as root= is
[02:07] <Fazer> Seveas: ah, I see.  Will do when I am done watching Jon Steward :)
[02:07] <Seveas> KhaBal, how exactly do you change the hostname?
[02:07] <caonex> tahorg, perfect, i guess this is the problem for my dads computer as well, he has a msi motherboard and it restarts from time to time.
[02:08] <KhaBal> Seveas: sudo hostname <name>
[02:08] <cafuego> crud, i think my pci ide controller is busted
[02:08] <tahorg> caonex: sometimes it can be fixed with a bios upgrade
[02:08] <caonex> tahorg, i am trying to get him to love linux, especially ubuntu, and he keeps telling me that it logs him out. Well he just upgraded it.
[02:08] <Seveas> KhaBal, that only lasts until reboot indeed, you need to edit /etc/hostname (and /etc/hosts if you want sudo to continue to work!!) for a more permanent change
[02:09] <hartmanr> seveas: how to change root using sudo
[02:09] <heatxsink1> hello all
[02:09] <KhaBal> Seveas: continue to work?
[02:09] <jasoncohen> does ubuntu's firefox have all the security patches in 1.0.3 and 1.0.4? when i checked the security notes i found most but not all of the security issues from mozilla's site listed
[02:09] <socomm> hartmanr: sudo passwd
[02:09] <Seveas> KhaBal, sudo needs the correct hostname to be present in /etc/hosts
[02:09] <hartmanr> thanks
[02:09] <hartmanr> soco
[02:09] <Seveas> socomm, do NOT just advise that
[02:09] <Seveas> it's a Bad Thing
[02:10] <Seveas> hartmanr, what are you trying to accomplish..?
[02:10] <Seveas> jasoncohen, yes it does have all of them
[02:10] <jasoncohen> hartmanr, you can do sudo -s with the same affect
[02:10] <hartmanr> i installed ubuntu earlier and i want to change the default passwrd for root
[02:10] <KhaBal> Seveas: thanx
[02:10] <cyphase> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8404622/
[02:10] <Seveas> hartmanr there is no default password
[02:10] <caonex> tahooie, can i change noapci with sysctl, without restarting?
[02:11] <jo> hm
[02:11] <jasoncohen> Seveas, why are only some of the MFSA's listed?
[02:11] <Seveas> hartmanr, in fact ubuntu has no root password, and you really should keep it that way
[02:11] <Seveas> hartmanr: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:11] <hartmanr> ok then i want to change it from whatever it is to something else
[02:11] <caonex> tahorg, can i change noapci with sysctl, without restarting?
[02:11] <socomm> hartmanr: Ubuntu is a rootless distro.
[02:11] <KhaBal> seveas: and my resolution changes to 800:640 from time to time, I want it to stay on 1000(forgot the number but its over 1000 resolution) everytime i reboot
[02:11] <NeoGeo64> UBUNTU > WINDOWS XP
[02:11] <hartmanr> well when you su
[02:11] <caonex> socomm, I have root
[02:11] <jo> downloaded breezy but then wont instal no good the iso
[02:11] <KhaBal> soemtimes its 1000, sometimes 800
[02:11] <Seveas> jasoncohen, no idea, you should ask on the ubuntu-devel mailing list
[02:11] <hartmanr> the password it asks for
[02:11] <caonex> socomm, I use root for everything.
[02:11] <socomm> caonex: By default there is no user named root.
[02:11] <Seveas> hartmanr, you don't use su on ubuntu
[02:12] <Seveas> hartmanr, you use sudo on ubuntu
[02:12] <Seveas> socomm, there is, the password is just disabled...
[02:12] <sara_poo__> socomm, i thought there was, it's just no pw
[02:12] <Seveas> jo, read the topic
[02:12] <sara_poo__> socomm, nobody knows the pw
[02:12] <sara_poo__> i'm going to guess mine
[02:12] <Seveas> do NOT use breezy yet, it's too instable
[02:12] <caonex> Seveas, I use su in ubuntu, what do you mean by that?
[02:12] <pgidz> jo you could try burning your iso at slower speed see if that helps
[02:12] <hartmanr> let me think
[02:13] <jtan325> if i need to install python using ./configure, make, and make install, and i need to install to a specific directory instead of /usr/local/bin, how do i do this?
[02:13] <Seveas> caonex, using su is not the Ubuntu way of doing things :)
[02:13] <sara_poo__> jtan325, i'd read the ./configure --help
[02:13] <sara_poo__> jtan325, see if its in there
[02:13] <Seveas> pgidz, burnomg slower will not repair a broken distro :)
[02:13] <Seveas> jtan325, please install python from the repositories...
[02:13] <jo> pgidz i stik wit dis for wile than later i wil run breezy
[02:13] <caonex> Seveas, but isnt it more secure to have only one admin access?
[02:14] <Seveas> caonex, absolutely not
[02:14] <Seveas> caonex, read that wikipage for a discussion about it
[02:14] <jo> Seveas i think also that not the problem
[02:15] <tahorg> caonex: I don't think so, but I sincerely don't know
[02:15] <siimo>  hi anyone here work with a ext cvs server?
[02:15] <jtan325> Seveas, i normally would, but i have to install specifically 2.3.3 for our work servers
[02:15] <jtan325> that's all
[02:15] <Discipulus> jtan325, ./configure --prefix=<the-prefix-minus-bin>
[02:15] <socomm> So what's the root default password?
[02:15] <socomm> 123456?
[02:15] <jo> ist was deteking progie on setup then brok down
[02:15] <reka> has anyone else had their computer hang on logout? screen goes black, won't return and i have to force reboot
[02:15] <jtan325> thanks guys
[02:15] <Seveas> jtan325, aha...
[02:15] <socomm> Or maybe `toor'.
[02:15] <Discipulus> socomm, there is no default root password
[02:15] <Discipulus> socomm, it's disabled by default
[02:16] <socomm> It was joke.
[02:16] <Seveas> socomm: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:16] <hartmanr> seveas: the command to change the root password is this :sudo passwd root
[02:16] <Seveas> socomm, there actually is *no* password for root...
[02:16] <jtan325> socomm, don't do it
[02:16] <Seveas> hartmanr, correct, but try not to do it since the default on Ubuntu is sudo and for instance all menu entries use it
[02:17] <socomm> `sudo passwd', but people here are against that.
[02:17] <socomm> Especifying root is redundant.
[02:17] <Seveas> socomm, not really...
[02:17] <reka> jtan325: fyi, checkinstall is a nicer way if you really want to install stuff from source.
[02:17] <Seveas> sudo does not se $USERNAME
[02:17] <caonex> Seveas, well to me using root, su is the same a sudo, is just that the users in the sudoers file basically belong to the root group.
[02:17] <Seveas> caonex, sudo can do much more fine-grained access control...
[02:18] <unome> ...and timing is less 5 minutes I think
[02:18] <caonex> tahorg, when apci tries to work, where does it document its moves?
[02:18] <caonex> Seveas, I just have that debian mind in me ;)
[02:18] <jtan325> ahh but i am doing this from the command line
[02:19] <Seveas> caonex, surgically remove that ;)
[02:19] <tahorg> caonex: try to cd in /proc/acpi/
[02:19] <jtan325> so i am going to do ./configure --prefix=(the prefix)
[02:19] <Seveas> jtan325, checkinstall is also commandline ...
[02:19] <jtan325> and then make, and make install
[02:19] <Seveas> make and checkinstall
[02:19] <caonex> tahorg, but that is not static, there isnt one?
[02:19] <caonex> Seveas, so what do you mean by fine-grained
[02:19] <caonex> ?
[02:19] <jo>  Seveas wy is the colc time not responding?
[02:19] <QMario> Is there a linux version of Quicken or Microsoft Money for Ubuntu?
[02:19] <Seveas> caonex, read man sudo or man sudoers
[02:19] <jo> clok
[02:20] <socomm> Seveas: If you wre not specify root as the initial user `sudo passwd' would have the same effect, if I'm not mistaken.
[02:20] <socomm> In that case I would think that root is redundant.
[02:20] <jo> i put time on amsterdam  but ceapt them same ron time
[02:20] <KhaBal> Seveas: everytime i use the command sudo this error comes up sudo: unable to lookup Erkan via gethostbyname()
[02:20] <T5> QMario, i think there is starmoney
[02:20] <socomm> s/wre/were/
[02:20] <QMario> T5, is it free?
[02:20] <Seveas> jo, please try to speak proper english, you are completely not understandable...
[02:21] <socomm> QMario: gnucash
[02:21] <jo> i did setup time zone amsterdam
[02:21] <jo> but its staning the same ron time
[02:21] <caonex> Seveas, he means: why is the clock time not responding?, whatever that means.
[02:21] <Seveas> jo, wtf do you mean with ron time..?
[02:22] <caonex> Seveas, wrong time
[02:22] <caonex> hehe
[02:22] <jo> its off the time
[02:22] <Seveas> pffffffff
[02:22] <QMario> Thank you T5 and socomm. :-D
[02:22] <caonex> jo: I understand you
[02:22] <caonex> Seveas, if you need me to translate, hehe
[02:22] <Seveas> jo, set your bios clock to GMT or tell ubuntu that the bios clock does not use GMT
[02:22] <jo> sorry
[02:22] <caonex> Seveas, he is writing as he pronounces..
[02:22] <jo> oke
[02:23] <caonex> jo talk to me, and i will translate
[02:23] <jo> i wont to have ijscream
[02:23] <KhaBal> Sevas: what does it mean?
[02:23] <moparfan90> hello all
[02:23] <jo> andt a date witch monica d
[02:24] <Seveas> KhaBal, that is what I meant with: if you want sudo to work, edit /etc/hosts
[02:24] <unome> lol
[02:24] <KhaBal> i did
[02:24] <KhaBal> what do you change?
[02:24] <KhaBal> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost localhost
[02:24] <moparfan90> anyone know where i can download doom 3 for free for linux?
[02:24] <KhaBal> lol
[02:24] <Seveas> khabal change the last localhost to erkan
[02:25] <KhaBal> that would be illegal moparfan90
[02:25] <Seveas> jo, als je liever in het Nederlands chat, kom dan naar #ubuntu-nl
[02:25] <reka> jo: you want icecream and a date with monica d. ??
[02:25] <Seveas> damn, too late :)
[02:25] <socomm> moparfan90: No such thing.
[02:25] <jtan325> holy crap Seveas you can speak nl?
[02:26] <moparfan90> antone have doom 3
[02:26] <socomm> Doom 3, perhaps you mean the demo?
[02:26] <unome> or ther server
[02:26] <Seveas> jtan325, I am from NL :)
[02:26] <moparfan90> no. the game. i only want the multiplay part
[02:26] <xabbu|> There is a unofficial installer for doom3 for Linux, but you still need the original install cds.
[02:27] <jtan325> cool Seveas
[02:27] <socomm> moparfan90: Go buy the retail version, I believe it comes with the linux port on the disk.
[02:27] <moparfan90> o  ok. you know how much it is?
[02:28] <moparfan90> bye
[02:28] <socomm> moparfan90: Nope, check on froogle. or something.
[02:28] <moparfan90> g2g
[02:28] <unome> doom3 is like a year old already, isn't it?
[02:28] <socomm> See you.
[02:28] <xabbu|> Yeah almost.
[02:28] <socomm> To the best of my knowledge, yes.
[02:31] <MachineScrew> can any one tell me how to set up an anymous proxy for my laptop
[02:31] <j_> whats the file for your default window manager?
[02:31] <_unome> Konversation crashes on me one more time and I will switch to xchat or other client.
[02:31] <reka> Seveas: excuse my ignorance, but what do you call yourselves?  netherlandians?
[02:31] <reka> _unome: kde apps tend to do that. :)
[02:31] <Seveas> reka, no, dutch
[02:31] <j_> yes, I don't like many kde apps
[02:32] <j_> reka: can you think of a good kde app?
[02:32] <_unome> reka: not if you roll'em yourself
[02:32] <Seveas> (it's both an adverb and a noun)
[02:32] <jakobbg> k3b
[02:32] <MachineScrew> guess thats a no
[02:32] <j_> I actually like tOra, and i don't know of a gtk replacement
[02:32] <_unome> let's not get kde-gnome war here, I get touchy when someone badmouth KDE :(
[02:32] <reka> j_: no.  i 've had horrible experiences with them.
[02:32] <jakobbg> j_: tora is the best timesaver there is
[02:33] <Seveas> _unome, KDE sucks
[02:33] <j_> jakobbg: have you tried aqua data studio?  It's good for multi-db stuff
[02:33] <jakobbg> a new release was out the other day
[02:33] <sly> wekk said
[02:33] <MachineScrew> OK how can I get an KDE app to look right in GNOME with out installing KDE
[02:33] <j_> jakobbg: of tora?
[02:33] <MachineScrew> and somthing better thant qtconfig
[02:33] <sly> well*
[02:33] <jakobbg> j_: yeah
[02:33] <Seveas> _unome, don't "_
[02:33] <Seveas> :)
[02:33] <_unome> :p
[02:33] <jakobbg> j_: no, i haven't - isn't that applish?
[02:34] <j_> jakobbg: it's a java app, but one of the better java apps i've used.   It connects with no problems to db2, oracle, sql server, postgres, mysql
[02:34] <Fazer> Hello
[02:34] <Seveas> hi
[02:34] <j_> jakobbg: nice schema browser, etc.
[02:34] <reka> MachineScrew: what programs are we talking about?  perhaps we could recommoned non-KDE alternatives. :)
[02:34] <sly> i could only get my desktop how i wanted it with gnome
[02:34] <jakobbg> j_: sounds great as long as it works for oracle - got an url!?
[02:34] <Fazer> Seveas: That vga=773 didn't work.  I added it at the end of the #kopt line.
[02:34] <j_> jakobbg:there is a catch....
[02:35] <MachineScrew> Skype mainly
[02:35] <j_> jakobbg: it's not free for commercial use
[02:35] <sly> ????
[02:35] <Seveas> Fazer, did you run update-grub?
[02:35] <jakobbg> no problem, we're loaded :-). as long as it's open source.
[02:35] <j_> jakobbg: but i've been on a trial for about 2 months.  they don't shut it out ever.
[02:35] <reka> sly: me too.  i can't use anything else now.
[02:35] <Fazer> Seveas: oh shoots, that's the command, I was trying grub-update and was stumped of why it wasn't working.. =/
[02:35] <Fazer> let me try that
[02:35] <MachineScrew> and HP tools
[02:35] <jtan325> Seveas, how does one look at the ubuntu source? i'm a cse student, just curious to see if there's anything i could contribute
[02:35] <sly> admitingly i was kde at vey first
[02:35] <Seveas> Fazer, lol :)
[02:35] <KhaBal> is synaptic working for u guys
[02:35] <j_> jakobbg: I don't have a url, but a quick google for aqua data studio should show ya
[02:35] <KhaBal> coz its not working form e
[02:35] <sly> then xfce . now gnome
[02:36] <KhaBal> it saying synaptic is not available please check network connections
[02:36] <Seveas> jtan325, with apt-get source you download the source of a package
[02:36] <j_> anyone know where my default window manager setting is stored?  It was to /usr/bin/gdm initially... etc
[02:36] <jakobbg> j_: found it
[02:36] <Seveas> jtan325, all help is appreciated in the MOTU (team of volunteers that maintain the vast majority of packages)
[02:36] <jtan325> Seveas, right. is there a place with a list of "ubuntu could use this..."?
[02:36] <reka> j_: iirc, ~/.gnome2
[02:37] <reka> j_: ah whoops
[02:37] <j_> reka: whree is the global one, where you set your login manager type thing
[02:37] <reka> j_: sorry, misread that. :)
[02:37] <j_> ah, ok
[02:37] <j_> ah, found it
[02:37] <Seveas> jtan325, Bugzilla ;)
[02:37] <j_>  /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[02:37] <jtan325> haha of course
[02:37] <Seveas> and the various MOTU packages on wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:37] <Seveas> s/packages/pages/
[02:38] <j_> be right back, gotta reboot stuff
[02:38] <arentie> How do I remove/uninstall compiled sofware?
[02:38] <j_> fdisk
[02:38] <j_> works
[02:38] <j_> but there is other ways too
[02:38] <j_> apt-get remove or fdisk
[02:38] <Seveas> arentie, if you installed it from the repositoreis: apt-get remove
[02:38] <jtan325> Seveas, aw man you gotta be a New Member first for MOTU
[02:39] <Seveas> otherwise: hope for a make uninstall in the Makefile
[02:39] <jtan325> doesn't that require actually making contributions first
[02:39] <Seveas> jtan325, you can make a contribution without being a member
[02:39] <McScruff> lo
[02:39] <Fazer> Seveas: wow, that works awesomly.
[02:39] <Fazer> Seveas: thanks =)
[02:39] <reka> arentie: that's why it pays to use checkinstall.  you can just uninstall the deb file it creates iirc
[02:39] <Seveas> jtan325, just talk to the MOTU about what you want to do
[02:39] <jakobbg> *making mental note to self*: removing .xsession-errors while gdm is running is not a good idea.
[02:39] <Seveas> jtan325, #ubuntu-motu is the place to be for that :)
[02:40] <MachineScrew> so can any one help me make skype look less ugly under GNOME without installing KDE
[02:40] <MachineScrew> or qtconfig
[02:41] <jtan325> Seveas, there's no one there?
[02:41] <reka> arentie: please keep it in the channel.  more people can help that way.
 how do I perform the uninstall of the ndiswrapper that I compiled at /usr/src?
[02:41] <arentie> how do I perform the uninstall of the ndiswrapper that I compiled at /usr/src?
[02:41] <Seveas> jtan325, you must have misspelled the name when /join ing
[02:41] <othernoob> is the wine version in the repos stable and works smoothly?
[02:41] <arentie> basically, I followed the directions at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[02:42] <Seveas> you're not in the channel :)
[02:42] <Seveas> arentie, these are bad
[02:42] <sweeny> arentie: can you do 'make uninstall' in the source dir?
[02:42] <jtan325> Seveas, you are right. stupid me
[02:42] <Seveas> you should simply install linux-restricted-modules
[02:42] <Fazer> Seveas: do you know how to watch movies properly in mplayer though? It seems that after I changed the vga settings, mplayer functions weirdly
[02:42] <Seveas> Fazer, describe 'weirdly'...
[02:42] <KhaBal> after you compile .tar file make makeinstall does, is the folder needed anymore?
[02:42] <arentie> no, I receive the error: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[02:42] <KhaBal> or do you just delete it?
[02:42] <MachineScrew> so that is a no to hun ?
[02:43] <arentie> i receive the error: root@marndthomepcubuntu:/usr/src # sudo make uninstall
[02:43] <arentie> make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[02:43] <Fazer> Seveas: hmm, nevermind, it was an .mpeg file that I was playing.  Played an .avi file and it works fine. The problem is that the files that I play aren't fullscreen.
[02:43] <MachineScrew> oh well
[02:43] <smack> ok what the heck.. visudo opens nano? shouldn't the command be nanosudo then?
[02:44] <Seveas> smack, visudo opens $EDITOR
[02:44] <smack> ahh!
[02:44] <sarmiento> I install the nvdia driver from the nvidia page, bun now I cant't run th graphic mode
[02:44] <jtan325> Seveas, is linux-source the only source i can browse?
[02:44] <jtan325> i've seen parts of that already through my OS class i took recently
[02:45] <jtan325> haha
[02:45] <Seveas> jtan325, no, you can download sources for a package with apt-get source $packagename
[02:45] <sarmiento> somebody can helpme?
[02:45] <Seveas> beware!: it downloads to the current directory
[02:45] <reka> KhaBal: you can just delete it.  but [1]  you can't uninstall without the makefile [2]  you should only compile from source when it isn't in the repo.  even then, use checkinstall for easy uninstallation.
[02:45] <Seveas> jtan325, it would be wise to apt-get install maint-guide (and read that) if you plan on doing packaging
[02:45] <arentie> what do i do to create the uninstall for ndiswrapper at /usr/src?
[02:46] <niran> sarmiento, the best way to install the nvidia driver is to use the prepackaged one ubuntu provides
[02:46] <Sophistication> sarmiento, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:46] <jtan325> Seveas, what i meant was the ubuntu source
[02:46] <Sophistication> sarmiento, sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[02:46] <jtan325> is there source code for "linux with ubuntu"
[02:46] <jtan325> or is that what source-linux means, when it says "with ubuntu patches"
[02:46] <Fazer> Seveas: night.
[02:47] <sly> hour ahead of us :)
[02:48] <Fazer> 8:46 here.
[02:48] <Fazer> PM that is.
[02:48] <philnk1> after installing ubuntu on the hard drive, there was no option for configuring a dialup modem.  what package didn't install for dialup services?
[02:48] <Fazer> heh, my bank account say $666
[02:48] <sarmiento> but now i can't run graphic mode with the first kernel
[02:49] <reka> philnk1: you can set it up thru places->network servers iirc
[02:49] <philnk1> thanks
[02:50] <bimberi> philnk1: or possibly System -> Administration -> Networking
[02:50] <reka> philnk1: yes, that's probably better. :D
[02:50] <reka> thanks bimberi
[02:51] <sarmiento> I think that the pach crash the configuration
[02:51] <bimberi> reka: np :)
[02:51] <philnk1> i guess that i bypassed network setup during install because i thought ppp would be available anyway
[02:51] <moparfan90_> helo
[02:51] <moparfan90_> helo
[02:51] <sarmiento> hi
[02:51] <reka> philnk1: i wouldn't worry.  my modem wasn't detected either.
[02:51] <sarmiento> what can I do?
[02:52] <sarmiento> Are there some way to reinstall the basic configuration?
[02:53] <moparfan90_> matb
[02:53] <moparfan90_> maybe
[02:53] <steven_> hey
[02:53] <steven_> my screen resoluction is 2 big how do i change that
[02:54] <reka> !fixres
[02:54] <ubotu> fixres is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:54] <reka> steven_: there you go.
[02:58] <MachineScrew> any body have any info on how to make skype look less ugly
[02:58] <ateves> can maximized windows cover a panel as in KDE?
[02:58] <steven_> how do i change the root password it never asked to give me one
[02:59] <ateves> steven_:console
[02:59] <ateves> sudo passwd root
[02:59] <ateves> enter YOUR password
[02:59] <steven_> that doesnt work
[02:59] <ateves> your desired root PW and again
[02:59] <ateves> why?
[02:59] <reka> steven_: there isn't one
[02:59] <reka> !rootsudo
[02:59] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:00] <ateves> why can't maximized windows cover my panel?
[03:00] <ateves> that hurts me :D
[03:01] <tiglionabbit> StoneTable: you don't need a root password.  You can use sudo
[03:01] <tiglionabbit> oops
[03:01] <tiglionabbit> ateves:
[03:01] <ateves> he left ;)
[03:01] <tiglionabbit> heh I thought that was an s in your name and hit tab
[03:01] <smack> does this nano editor that comes up when you run visudo check for parse errors?
[03:01] <tiglionabbit> oh steven.  dah similar names, I'm sorry
[03:02] <smack> I guess I'll just try typing nonsense and see what it does. :)
[03:02] <tiglionabbit> smack: according to the manual, yes it does
[03:02] <smack> we shall see! ;D
[03:03] <KhaBal> how do i move all the files in this folder, its just going to take too long to copy one byo ne
[03:03] <smack> oh nano writes sudoers.tmp and runs that through some kind of parse checking thing after.
[03:03] <KhaBal> how do i just move all the files?
[03:04] <socomm> KhaBal: `man mv'
[03:04] <KhaBal> man page has nothing about moving everything at once
[03:04] <socomm> `mv * target_directory'
[03:05] <tiglionabbit> KhaBal: how much stuff do you want to move?
[03:05] <KhaBal> 50 files in a director
[03:05] <KhaBal> join #mplayer
[03:05] <tiglionabbit> * should represent all filenames in your current directory
[03:06] <socomm> You could always go in with nautilus and do a CTL+A and CTL+X and go to a dir and paste them.
[03:06] <tiglionabbit> to move multiple files, list them and then put a directory name as the last parameter
[03:06] <BockBilbo> is there any way to make gtk programs l
[03:06] <TokenBad> in ubuntu if I want to see how many files are in a dir and all its sub dirs how would I do that?
[03:06] <BockBilbo> *look bether in kde?
[03:06] <socomm> BockBilbo: Yes.
[03:06] <wweasel> hey. question: apparently ubuntu has a bug with firefox that i can fix by using apt-get. what do i apt-get for the fix?
[03:07] <BockBilbo> sorry for the typo
[03:07] <socomm> BockBilbo: Yes.
[03:07] <sirdanny> hola alguien habla espaol??
[03:07] <reka> hehe. round the twist is on tv.
[03:07] <BockBilbo> socomm, how com?
[03:07] <CarlFK> is /etc/network/interfaces where I would set a static IP?
[03:07] <BockBilbo> sirdanny vete  a #ubuntu-es
[03:07] <socomm> I forget the hack but you can go search on kdelook.org
[03:07] <BockBilbo> thanks socomm
[03:07] <reka> sirdanny: #ubuntu-es
[03:07] <socomm> Search in the gtk section I  believe, there should be something there.
[03:07] <wweasel> anyone? what do i apt-get to get the fix for the firefox bug?
[03:08] <reka> wweasel: what bug do you speak of?
[03:08] <othernoob> is the wine version in the repos stable and works smoothly?
[03:08] <ramblingturtle23> wweasel: just update your system
[03:08] <socomm> othernoob: Works good enough.
[03:08] <othernoob> socomm, define good enough ;)
[03:08] <jtan325> wweasel,
[03:09] <socomm> As good as wine has ever worked.
[03:09] <ateves> how can i get rid of the CDROM icons of the mounted devices on the desktop?
[03:09] <jtan325> the workaround is to do about:config
[03:09] <wweasel> "Ubuntu distributed a new version of Firefox which contains the security fixes from Firefox 1.0.4, however, they did not update the version number"
[03:09] <wweasel> yes?
[03:09] <jtan325> and then
[03:09] <jtan325> filter "vendor"
[03:09] <socomm> ateves: gconf-editor, search volumes icon.
[03:09] <othernoob> socomm, from my experience, that's not very..uh..good
[03:09] <wweasel> ramblingturtle23, i tried that, my system is up to date
[03:09] <jtan325> and the one that says 1.0, change to 1.0.4
[03:09] <othernoob> had major probs with it on fedora core 3
[03:09] <caonex> Seveas, what is the tool to like fsck to check reiserfs?
[03:09] <ramblingturtle23> the is a specific update for the firefox plugin bug
[03:10] <othernoob> even some ppl in #wine couldnt help me there ..
[03:10] <TokenBad> is there a way to tell?
[03:10] <sirdanny> hola alguien habla espaol??
[03:10] <KhaBal> is synaptic working for you guys?
[03:10] <toti> sii
[03:10] <KhaBal> its not showing anything ATM
[03:10] <caonex> sirdanny, S ve al canal #ubuntu-es
[03:10] <socomm> sirdanny: El canal espanol es #ubuntu-es.
[03:11] <caonex> sirdanny: Sabes como entrate a otros canales?
[03:11] <jtan325> just do "/j #ubuntu-es"
[03:11] <wweasel> ramblingturtle23, apparently i can apt-get the proper version. what is the module to apt-get?
[03:11] <ateves> socomm: thanks!
[03:11] <TokenBad> in ubuntu if I want to see how many files are in a dir and all its sub dirs how would I do that?
[03:11] <socomm> ateves: No problem.
[03:11] <jtan325> search for mozilla-firefox
[03:11] <ramblingturtle23> wweasel: this i think will fix it mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[03:11] <someluser> azureus can't access port 6881
[03:11] <someluser> anyone know why?
[03:12] <socomm> Perhaps it's being blocked by your firewall/router.
[03:12] <ramblingturtle23> wweasel: to answer your question 1.0.4
[03:12] <someluser> i don't have one
[03:12] <budluva> you have to forward that port if your behind firewall/router
[03:12] <j_> is there anything that writes microsoft visio files for linux?
[03:12] <CarlFK> I have 2 nics: 3c509 and eepro - how do I make the 3c509 eth0 and eepro eth1?
[03:12] <socomm> Some ISP's may block that port as well.
[03:12] <someluser> it didn't before
[03:13] <socomm> someluser: Just use another port.
[03:13] <someluser> socomm; doesn't azureus need that port for tracker info?
[03:13] <CarlFK> someluser - I would switch to another port - 50630 is a good one
[03:13] <someluser> socomm; ok, thanks
[03:13] <socomm> Nope you can configure it to use another port other than the you just said.
[03:13] <CarlFK> someluser - the .torrent defines what port the tracker is on
[03:14] <CarlFK> (aka, no.)
[03:14] <wweasel> hmm...it says mozilla firefox is already the newest version
[03:14] <ramblingturtle23> wweasel: are you trying to install extensions in firefox
[03:14] <erommer> if i have a script in /etc/cron.monthly that needs the root password to work, how can i make it work ?
[03:14] <socomm> wweasel: I believe there's an entry for this in the wiki.
[03:15] <TokenBad> so no one know?
[03:15] <tiglionabbit> if you want to install addons to firefox, you need to change the version number
[03:15] <socomm> wweasel: Try running a search on your favourite search engine.
[03:15] <tiglionabbit> type about:config into the address bar
[03:15] <someluser> CarlFK; you said to set the incoming tcp listen port to 50630 right?
[03:16] <CarlFK> someluser - yeah - that is todays date... ust as good as any other port
[03:16] <someluser> CarlFK; ok
[03:16] <tiglionabbit> and change the entry general.useragent.VendorSub to 1.0.4
[03:16] <tiglionabbit> you can use the filter field to search for it
[03:16] <Jo3bCoOl> hi... I installed ubuntu from a download file burned to a disk
[03:16] <wweasel> socomm, found it. and the fix. thanks :)
[03:16] <Jo3bCoOl> it didn't let me set a root password
[03:16] <Jo3bCoOl> how do I do that?
[03:16] <tiglionabbit> Jo3bCoOl: you don't need a root password, use sudo
[03:17] <bimberi> CarlFK: Have a look at /etc/iftab and "man iftab"
[03:17] <tiglionabbit> !sudo
[03:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:17] <wweasel> ramblingturtle23, no, i was trying to fix the ubuntu firefox bug (https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10681)
[03:17] <lampshade> Jo3bCoOl:  don't worry about it, just use sudo
[03:17] <Jo3bCoOl> hmmmmm
[03:17] <someluser> Jo3bCoOl; sudo passwd root
[03:17] <tiglionabbit> that will set a root password, but you don't need one
[03:17] <someluser> root is yout user password
[03:17] <Jo3bCoOl> O
[03:18] <CarlFK> bimberi thanks
[03:19] <Jo3bCoOl> that didn't work
[03:19] <TovAre> Im disconnected from the internet and need to install the kernel sources to build some network drivers. Is it on the install cd-rom?
[03:19] <Jo3bCoOl> I tried to open a root terminal
[03:20] <wweasel> Jo3bCoOl, have you tried doing: sudo <commands>
[03:20] <someluser> set the root password in a normal terminal first
[03:20] <Quest-Master> Man
[03:20] <Quest-Master> Bluecurve is sexy
[03:20] <wweasel> and then it should ask you for your password, insert your user password
[03:21] <wweasel> jo3bCo0l, on ubuntu the default root password is your user password
[03:21] <Jo3bCoOl><PHONE_NUMBER>47
[03:21] <reka> TovAre: you need to install the linux-source package that matches your kernel
[03:21] <someluser> CarlFK; i get a "cannot map incoming peer data" error from the port you gave me
[03:21] <TovAre> reka, do you know where I might find one for the latest ubuntu?
[03:22] <TovAre> 2.6.10-5-386 #1
[03:22] <reka> hmm, how does one go about making a /home partition?  i assume this step would be done during install?
[03:22] <tiglionabbit> doh, ran out of batteries
[03:22] <reka> TovAre: apt-cache search linux-source
[03:22] <tiglionabbit> reka: it makes a home directory for all users automatically
[03:23] <wweasel> reka, yes, that is done during the install
[03:23] <reka> TovAre: looks like you need the 2.6.10 one
[03:23] <Jo3bCoOl> is K available for ubuntu
[03:23] <tiglionabbit> reka: it should be in /home/$user
[03:23] <Jo3bCoOl> I like that better than gnome
[03:23] <tiglionabbit> Jo3bCoOl: yes.  install kubuntu-desktop
[03:23] <TovAre> apt-cache didnt give any results
[03:23] <reka> tiglionabbit: i was told it's better to keep a seperate partition for your home directory so when you reinstall, you can just that.
[03:23] <someluser> CarlFK; i'm getting nat errors from the port you gave me
[03:23] <wweasel> enable universe
[03:23] <reka> *just use that
[03:23] <reka> tiglionabbit: to restore settings etc
[03:24] <bryan> noob here and im havin some major problems... anyone to help?
[03:24] <tiglionabbit> reka: oh, home partition, sorry I misread.  You can do that during the install, yes, or get gparted or qtparted and change your partitions with those
[03:24] <reka> tiglionabbit: hmm, i just had a bad experience with gparted. :)
[03:24] <tiglionabbit> reka: it is indeed something you usually do during install
[03:25] <wweasel> bryan, just ask
[03:25] <tiglionabbit> well, try qtparted?
[03:25] <reka> tiglionabbit: so wouldi just make a partition in the installer?  how do i direct it so it uses it as /home/<user> then?
[03:25] <someluser> can anyone else help me fix azureus?
[03:25] <tiglionabbit> reka: it will know.  Just make it a partition with the mountpoint "/home"
[03:25] <bryan> thanks, sorry... grub screwed up my mbr on xp and i already did a new install there... i can't get it to work
[03:26] <reka> tiglionabbit: thanks.  i'll keep it in mind for my next install.
[03:26] <tiglionabbit> bryan: grub is supposed to write over the mrb.  It will add options to boot both ubuntu and windows on its little menu.
[03:26] <tiglionabbit> s/mrb/mbr
[03:26] <reka> tiglionabbit: but otherwise, could i just backup the entire /home/<user> directory if need be?
[03:26] <CarlFK> someluser - what is the IP of the box you are running az on?
[03:26] <wweasel> bryan, i am not sure. do you mean, you don't get a grub menu on boot?
[03:26] <bryan> i read about that, but it didn't... it won't load anything; it just keeps hanging
[03:27] <someluser> CarlFK; one sec
[03:27] <wweasel> hmm...so you can't boot into anything?
[03:27] <Jo3bCoOl> so kubuntu is a totally different OS than ubuntu?
[03:27] <tiglionabbit> bryan: what do you see when you start up?  Does it have an error number?
[03:27] <tiglionabbit> bryan: perhaps you need to direct your bios to boot from hard drive, rather than CD or something
[03:27] <CarlFK> Jo3bCoOl - it is the same, only different ;)
[03:27] <someluser> CarlFK; <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:27] <tiglionabbit> Jo3bCoOl: it's sort of separate, but they're trying to bring them together
[03:27] <bryan> nope, just hangs... im running xp on hda and trying to run ubuntu on hdb...
[03:28] <reka> Jo3bCoOl: just different window desktop environments afaik
[03:28] <CarlFK> someluser - thats a public IP, so you shouln't be having any problmes
[03:28] <Jo3bCoOl> O
[03:28] <tiglionabbit> Jo3bCoOl: doesn't stop you from installing the packages from both of them simultaneously.  ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop do not fight
[03:28] <someluser> CarlFK; i know
[03:28] <Jo3bCoOl> O
[03:28] <CarlFK> someluser - do you have a 2nd nic, like maybe a wifi card that az is trying to use?
[03:28] <Jo3bCoOl> why can't normal linux people be this helpful
[03:28] <Jo3bCoOl> all I get from the linux channels is RTFM
[03:28] <someluser> no
[03:28] <TovAre> reka you know of any browsable ubuntu package download sites where I might find the kernel source?
[03:28] <tiglionabbit> Jo3bCoOl: that's because linux users are arrogant bastards
[03:29] <bluechild> waz up all
[03:29] <reka> TovAre: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:29] <new2ubuntu> What would be the reason to troubleshoot ubuntu with gnome, rather than just trying kubuntu?
[03:29] <Jo3bCoOl> arrogant is being nice too
[03:29] <bluechild> just switched to linux
[03:29] <reka> TovAre: why not jsut use apt-get/synaptic though?
[03:29] <bluechild> ubuntu kicks ass
[03:29] <bluechild> good stuff...
[03:29] <tiglionabbit> yep
[03:29] <wweasel> tiglionabbit: if you have kde and gnome at the same time, how do you choose between them?
[03:29] <bluechild> my friend lestat gave me the image
[03:29] <Jo3bCoOl> it likes my ATA drive
[03:29] <reka> new2ubuntu: ?
[03:29] <someluser> CarlFK; i removed my other nic and reinstalled ubuntu
[03:29] <Jo3bCoOl> other linux flavors don't
[03:29] <bluechild> ill never go back to xp
[03:29] <tiglionabbit> wweasel: when you're logging in, click on "Sessions"
[03:29] <bluechild> xpcrap
[03:30] <TovAre> reka, I dont have internet on that computer yet. I need to compile the driver first.
[03:30] <wweasel> ah, gives you the choice there?
[03:30] <CarlFK> someluser - did you install any sort of firewall thingy?
[03:30] <reka> TovAre: ah. i guess you know how to install deb packages offline then?
[03:30] <someluser> CarlFK;  guarddog, but it's not running or configured
[03:30] <new2ubuntu> i've done 3 installs with 3 different cd's and I get error after error while trying to start X
[03:30] <Jo3bCoOl> can you burn cd's in linux?
[03:30] <tiglionabbit> wweasel: yup, it will list all of the window managers you have installed, so you can get some more, like xfce4 as well
[03:30] <wweasel> tiglionabbit, i always figured i could have one or the other, so i just stuck with gnome. cool, thanks :)
[03:31] <CarlFK> someluser - even money says that is what is screwing you up.
[03:31] <erommer> Jo3bCoOl: ya
[03:31] <TovAre> reka, Ill figure it out :)
[03:31] <tiglionabbit> wweasel: not only can you have more than one, you can run more than one at a time!  Applications -> System tools -> New Login
[03:31] <reka> new2ubuntu: what sort of errors/problems?
[03:31] <someluser> CarlFK; azureus wasn't working before i installed it
[03:31] <TovAre> i know dpkg --install so far :)
[03:31] <new2ubuntu> I get a 'not configured properly" message
[03:31] <CarlFK> someluser - what problem were you trying to solve by installing garddog?
[03:31] <someluser> CarlFK; none
[03:31] <tiglionabbit> wweasel: it will start the next one on another virtual terminal, control-alt-F8
[03:31] <CarlFK> heh
[03:32] <bryan> is there anywhere i can get a detailed, step-by-step installation guide for ubuntu?
[03:32] <CarlFK> I hate to ask... what else did you install for no reason?
[03:32] <tiglionabbit> there should be
[03:32] <bluechild> bryan your asking alot
[03:32] <bluechild> read a book man
[03:32] <someluser> CarlFK; i don't know
[03:32] <bryan> too poor
[03:32] <new2ubuntu> and I get this message during my first boot of the system after installing
[03:33] <reka> new2ubuntu: can you get to a terminal?
[03:33] <tiglionabbit> http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/
[03:33] <new2ubuntu> yes
[03:33] <reka> !fixres
[03:33] <ubotu> [fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:33] <bryan> thanks tiglionabbit
[03:34] <reka> new2ubuntu: go to the link ubotu spat out.  there's a command to reconfigure xorg.
[03:34] <tiglionabbit> new2ubuntu: what does it say isn't configured properly?
[03:35] <new2ubuntu> thanks. Will this allow me to configure the rest of the system? (root password and whatnot)
[03:35] <someluser> CarlFK; i uninstalled guarddog, restarted azureus and it still gives me a nat error
[03:35] <tiglionabbit> new2ubuntu: you don't need a root password.  Use sudo
[03:36] <Fazer> blargh, bored.
[03:36] <tiglionabbit> Fazer: play chromium
[03:36] <new2ubuntu> Ok, thanks. i'm off to do it
[03:37] <Fazer> tiglionabbit: what be that?
[03:37] <tiglionabbit> Fazer: a game for linux, space shooter
[03:37] <tkiesel> Hi all.  I had (yet another) question. My wife and I are about to reformat her old Windows Xp partition. (woo hoo!)  I am uncertain as to the location of GRUB though, and don't want to leave her computer unbootable.
[03:37] <reka> tiglionabbit: that's impossible to beat. :)
[03:37] <reka> chromium that is
[03:37] <leitao> hello, i am having a crucial doubt about top and swap. In my swap header i see that 0 kb of swap is in use, and when i see the swap per process, i saw my Xorg using 83m, what is that?
[03:37] <Fazer> tiglionabbit: ah, hehe, nice.
[03:38] <tiglionabbit> tkiesel: if your bios was made within the last 10 years, grub should properly write over the MBR and display a menu on boot for what OS to run.  You can rezise NTFS partitions, btw, so you could install both OSs at the same time
[03:38] <tiglionabbit> reka: you haven't played nethack, have you?
[03:38] <tkiesel> tiglionabbit: Nice. Well, we're actually just getting rid of her Win Xp partition for the space. She's decided to go Ubuntu 100%.
[03:39] <reka> tkiesel: it's usually on the windows partition iirc.  so yes, you'll wipe it out.  you'll need to reinstall it.
[03:39] <tiglionabbit> tkiesel: have you used linux much before?
[03:39] <wweasel> lol, i did the ctrl shift f8 thing and got lost :P
[03:39] <tkiesel> tiglionabbit: For the last several months, yes.
[03:39] <reka> tiglionabbit: no, i haven't
[03:39] <tkiesel> reka: *nods*  What's the best way to accomplish it if that happens?  Live CD or the install disk perhaps?
[03:40] <tiglionabbit> wweasel: oh sorry.  control-shift-F# switches between your virtual terminals.  The first 6 are text-based, the 7th and up are graphical
[03:40] <tiglionabbit> oh I mean control-alt
[03:40] <tiglionabbit> doh
[03:40] <tiglionabbit> very sorry
[03:40] <Dr_Melectaus> Im starting to love ubuntu :D, and its all thanks to thoreauputic. He is a top bloke
[03:41] <wweasel> tiglionabbit: no problem :) i just got linux and i am having fun learning about it
[03:41] <tiglionabbit> reka: try it.  `telnet nethack.alt.org`.  It's really hard
[03:41] <reka> tkiesel: boot from install cd, type rescue <ENTER>.
[03:41] <tkiesel> reka: Awesome.  That's it?
[03:41] <reka> tkiesel: then when you get to the terminal, type grub-install /dev/hda iirc
[03:41] <Dr_Melectaus> I want thoreauputic's Babies !_!
[03:42] <tiglionabbit> wait a sec, what are you telling tkiesel how to do?
[03:42] <thoreauputic> Dr_Melectaus: OK OK -n that's enough !! Please *grin*
[03:42] <tkiesel> tiglionabbit: How to install GRUB if erasing the old win partition destroys it.
[03:42] <reka> tkiesel: i won't gaurantee that will work though.  i recently stuffed up my partitions and got an error 17 from grub
[03:43] <tiglionabbit> tkiesel: what's your current partitioning setup?
[03:43] <reka> i just reinstalled everything
[03:43] <tkiesel> Errr. Lovely.  Maybe I'll back up /boot in case. lol.
[03:43] <IIIEars> !ubotu
[03:43] <ubotu> IIIEars: Wish i knew
[03:43] <IIIEars> !ubuntu
[03:43] <ubotu> ubuntu is, like, http://www.ubuntolinux.org or FAQ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[03:43] <Dr_Melectaus> :D
[03:43] <CarlFK> someluser - I don't think <IP_ADDRESS> is your ubuntu box
[03:43] <tiglionabbit> typo
[03:43] <tiglionabbit> fix that entry
[03:43] <tiglionabbit> "ubunto" ?
[03:44] <CarlFK> lol
[03:44] <reka> tkiesel: well, i got it from here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation
[03:44] <tkiesel> tiglionabbit: First partition on the disk is primary, contains the old Win XP install.  The rest of the disk is an extended partition that includes the various partitions Ubuntu is using.  swap, /, /home/, and a FAT32 shared part.
[03:45] <thoreauputic> OK, the so-called Real World beckons - see you all later ....
[03:45] <tiglionabbit> tkiesel: okay.  So you're going to delete the windows partition, and then what?
[03:45] <Dr_Melectaus> bye thor
[03:46] <seth> #ubuntu
[03:47] <tkiesel> tiglionabbit: Format it.  reiserfs or maybe ext3.  Space for the wife's files.  The /home partition is getting cramped. ;)
[03:47] <IIIEars> 450 ppl here - Ubuntu must be good only 700 ppl in #debian - :)
[03:47] <tiglionabbit> use ext3
[03:48] <tiglionabbit> you can do this all with gparted, right?
[03:48] <tkiesel> Was planning on it, yes.
[03:48] <tiglionabbit> I don't see how it would affect your booting
[03:48] <seth220993> help?
[03:49] <tkiesel> Hrrrm.  Any way to tell which physical device /boot is on? I don't see it referenced in /etc/fstab]
[03:49] <tiglionabbit> seth220993: with what?
[03:49] <tkiesel> /etc/fstab that is..
[03:49] <seth220993> I'm trying to install something, and I need the install directory for mozilla firefox
[03:49] <tiglionabbit> mount
[03:49] <seth220993> I'm trying to install flash
[03:49] <tiglionabbit> tkiesel: when you type `mount` does it list it?
[03:50] <reka> tkiesel: sudo fdisk -l
[03:50] <tkiesel> Un momento. Gotta ssh onto the wife's machine to check that.
[03:51] <seth220993>  I'm trying to install something, and I need the install directory for mozilla firefox to install macromedia flash
[03:51] <reka> seth220993: why not just install it from the repo?
[03:51] <seth220993> I'm a definate newb
[03:51] <tkiesel> fdisk -l returns an asterisk under the "Boot" heading for the Windows NTFS partition.  That answers that question I guess? lol.
[03:51] <reka> seth220993: have you enabled multivers/universe?
[03:51] <seth220993> not a clue, but I want to install it in root, to be accessib le by all users
[03:52] <tiglionabbit> seth220993: which mozilla-firefox
[03:52] <seth220993> newest version
[03:52] <seth220993> newly installed everything, nothing's been altered
[03:52] <LinuxNewbie> hello
[03:52] <tiglionabbit> seth220993: who's on first.  lol.  which is a command
[03:52] <reka> seth220993: hehe, no, type that in a terminal
[03:52] <tkiesel> *waves to everyone who's comign in*
[03:53] <seth220993> k
[03:53] <tiglionabbit> seth220993: actually, you'd be better off trying `dpkg -L mozilla-firefox`
[03:53] <benji> I like ubuntu very much :)
[03:53] <LinuxNewbie> can ubuntu like specify the users who will be shared with the internet connection?
[03:53] <tkiesel> Glad to hear it, benji. :)
[03:53] <wshaw> seeking nalioth of houston
[03:53] <LinuxNewbie> is that possible?
[03:54] <tiglionabbit> seth220993: actually, the best way to install flash is to go to a flashed site and click on the puzzle piece that shows up
[03:54] <LinuxNewbie> to specify specific users that will recieve internet connections
[03:54] <tiglionabbit> firefox has a built-in flash installer
[03:54] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - huh?
[03:54] <tkiesel> LinuxNewbie:  I think so, but I need more info about your setup.
[03:54] <Sophistication> tiglionabbit, that will require extra fonts or it will fail
[03:54] <LinuxNewbie> can ubuntu do that
[03:54] <seth220993> ok?
[03:54] <tiglionabbit> Sophistication: no it wont, it worked for me and everyone I know
[03:54] <seth220993> I did
[03:54] <ironmc> I'm still having a printer problem I have an HP psc2110 and when I check the driver installation I get this  message The PPD	/usr/share/cups/model/PSC-2110.ppd is already installed - still no printing
[03:54] <geargolem> Question about Nvidia setup.
[03:55] <LinuxNewbie> like i have users, i want only the 3 users will recieve internet connections
[03:55] <Sophistication> tiglionabbit, not if he has updated..
[03:55] <LinuxNewbie> but they are all connected to the network
[03:55] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - are you thinking of an internet caffee, where people have to pay to get access?
[03:55] <seth220993> I don't know what to do here
[03:55] <tkiesel> ironmc I've got an HP psc1315.  Have it printing and scanning both in Ubuntu.  Let me find the wiki entry for you. :)
[03:55] <LinuxNewbie> no
[03:55] <seth220993> I dont' know what to do here
[03:55] <LinuxNewbie> i have a server that share internet connection
[03:55] <tiglionabbit> seth220993: updated what?
[03:56] <ironmc> thiessel  thanks
[03:56] <LinuxNewbie> but the thing is if i shared it all of them will have internet connections
[03:56] <alnr> is there a way besides df to see what disk drives ubuntu knows about. I just installed it as a vmware guest,and df doesnt show a raw disk that I defined in the ubuntu vm
[03:56] <LinuxNewbie> i want just specific users to have the internet
[03:56] <twb_> is there a way to clone my windows for free?
[03:56] <LinuxNewbie> and the others dont have it
[03:56] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - how is that different than the internet caffee?  (other than they don't pay you)
[03:56] <seth220993> so is there no set install directory? that is ALL I need, and I don't know how to find it
[03:56] <tkiesel> Here you go, ironmc. This shoudl get you set up. :)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters?highlight=%28print%29
[03:57] <LinuxNewbie> i run a laboratory in i school
[03:57] <ironmc> thiessel thanks again  -  been working on this for a week
[03:57] <tiglionabbit> alnr: mount
[03:57] <twb_> i have a question someone
[03:57] <tiglionabbit> hi again, twb_
[03:57] <twb_> whats up man
[03:57] <tkiesel> No prob ironmc. I was banging my head against the wall about the scanner function. This set it up just right. :)
[03:58] <LinuxNewbie> so i just want to specify who will recieve the internet connections but still the others are connected in the lan
[03:58] <twb_> is there a way i can clone windows of this hd and onto another?
[03:58] <tiglionabbit> seth220993: the directory which your file is installed in can be fonud with dpkg -L mozilla-firefox
[03:58] <tiglionabbit> I mean your program components
[03:58] <LinuxNewbie> yes
[03:58] <LinuxNewbie> there is
[03:58] <LinuxNewbie> user acronis
[03:58] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - basicaly, you want the same thing.
[03:58] <seth220993> it says I need to specify
[03:58] <tiglionabbit> twb_: clone windows??
[03:58] <LinuxNewbie> yes
[03:58] <alnr> it didnt mount anything (there are 4 linux partitions including a LVM (2?))
[03:59] <LinuxNewbie> so there is a way?
[03:59] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - yes.  many
[03:59] <twb_> yes, i need the windows i have on this hd onto another, but still keep it on this one too...
[03:59] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - easiest thing that comes to mind is Squid
[03:59] <LinuxNewbie> ah?
[03:59] <tiglionabbit> twb_: I don't understand that question
[03:59] <LinuxNewbie> so squid can do that?
[03:59] <seth220993> 'need an action option
[03:59] <LinuxNewbie> specify the users
[03:59] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - hmm, that will just proxy web trafic... do you need full access, or just web browsing?
[03:59] <seth220993> '
[04:00] <LinuxNewbie> full access
[04:00] <CarlFK> then forget squid.. (i think)
[04:00] <LinuxNewbie> ive tried proxy settings
[04:00] <optiout> Just curious -- What makes ubuntu any better than debian?
[04:00] <seth220993> the attitude
[04:00] <tiglionabbit> optiout: easeir to use
[04:00] <tiglionabbit> *easier
[04:00] <nomasteryoda|w> easy as hell to install
[04:00] <nomasteryoda|w> and easy to maintain
[04:01] <seth220993> the philosophy, and the ease of use and user-friendliness
[04:01] <tiglionabbit> oh, and newer packages
[04:01] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[04:01] <CarlFK> the people make it better
[04:01] <seth220993> yeah
[04:01] <tkiesel> tiglionabbit and reka:  Here's my plan. Format the partition and reinstall GRUB from the rescue terminal of the install CD, then copy over the existing grub menu to the new boot partition.  Good idea? Bad?
[04:01] <tiglionabbit> tkiesel: any reason you need a boot partition now, but didn't before?
[04:01] <LinuxNewbie> got another question, what is the best linux for users restrictions
[04:01] <optiout> so the anaconda-like installer, and the newer apt releases is the reason that you are better than debian?
[04:02] <b_e_n_z> there's no anaconda like installer
[04:02] <nomasteryoda|w> comparison: suse kernel - current  <IP_ADDRESS>-21.7  and ... ubuntu kernel 2.6.12-3-386 i'm using
[04:02] <LinuxNewbie> like you can restric the use of yahoo, or chat software
[04:02] <tkiesel> tiglionabbit: There's a boot partition. It's just housed in the Windows partition we're going to destroy.
[04:02] <nomasteryoda|w> very nice
[04:02] <optiout> o -- I assumed there was, since they said it was easier than debian
[04:02] <seth220993> anyway, the dpkg L mozilla-firefox command, it says I need an action option
[04:02] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - I think you need to browse sf.net ...  I was looking for something like this about 6 months ago, there are about 50 relevent projects
[04:02] <tiglionabbit> optiout: ubuntu has regular releases and upgrades, so it wont get 3 years behind like debian does.  We are nice people, and try and make things easy to use
[04:02] <Dr_Melectaus> I got online with ubuntu and i use AOHell :D
[04:02] <tkiesel> tiglionabbit: So the short answer to your question is that there was a boot partition before. lol
[04:03] <LinuxNewbie> what is the best linux version for user restrictions
[04:03] <tiglionabbit> tkiesel: oh
[04:03] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_Melectaus, where did you find the package???
[04:03] <tiglionabbit> tkiesel: then why do you need to change anything?  lol sorry I'm not being very helpful..
[04:03] <optiout> meh -- I hate debian -- I think the whole newer releases is a huge step forward, but it still seems iffy  :\
[04:03] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_Melectaus, for aohell?
[04:03] <reka> optiout: what distro are you using?
[04:03] <_unome> Dr_Melectaus: steve case must proud of you :D
[04:03] <optiout> gentoo and slack
[04:03] <nomasteryoda|w> heck, i'm proud
[04:03] <tkiesel> tiglionabbit: Because the existing boot partition is about to be eradicated when we format that part of the drive, and my wife needs a bootable computer.  lmao.
[04:03] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[04:03] <Dr_Melectaus> nomasteryoda, im not useing a package, I bridged the connection from a windows machine that dials into aol without useing there bloatware
[04:04] <nomasteryoda|w> ah, ok
[04:04] <Dr_Melectaus> _unome,  steve case? who is he
[04:04] <_unome> Dr_Melectaus: ask someone on AOL.
[04:04] <LinuxNewbie> the owner of AOL
[04:04] <Dr_Melectaus> ahhh
[04:04] <Dr_Melectaus> he is a propper bellend then
[04:04] <LinuxNewbie> yeah
[04:04] <LinuxNewbie> very...
[04:04] <nomasteryoda|w> well, I introduced an Idea to the fools, er nice people over at Linspire ... that they and netzero need to release their little deb package so people can get cheap nationwide access
[04:04] <Dr_Melectaus> i would quite happily fart in his general direction
[04:04] <optiout> thanks guys
[04:05] <LinuxNewbie> hey dr...
[04:05] <nomasteryoda|w> i'm still waiting on an update from them
[04:05] <LinuxNewbie> can i ask some question
[04:05] <Dr_Melectaus> yes LinuxNewbie ?
[04:05] <nomasteryoda|w> and there is the aol dialer package for linux
[04:05] <smack> no!
[04:05] <smack> ;D
[04:05] <LinuxNewbie> what is the best linux version that you tried
[04:05] <Dr_Melectaus> uhm. i just started useing ubuntu 2 days ago so i may not be able to answer as well as the others
[04:05] <LinuxNewbie> when it comes to user restrictions
[04:05] <smack> LinuxNewbie: I bet everyone has a different answer to thtat.
[04:05] <seth220993> I say ubuntu
[04:05] <seth220993> tried suse and mandrake
[04:06] <smack> LinuxNewbie: also, by linux do you mean the kernel or do you mean distrobution?
[04:06] <Dr_Melectaus> LinuxNewbie, if your talking about user freindlyness, and ease of use. Ubuntu ;)
[04:06] <seth220993> love love love ubuntu, minimalist and beautiful
[04:06] <othernoob> LinuxNewbie: LFS
[04:06] <tiglionabbit> LinuxNewbie: what sort of restrictions do you want to ..   lol, I don't grade a distro by what it restricts me from doing
[04:06] <Dr_Melectaus> restrictions? pfft.   Then you can't do anything!
[04:07] <smack> I grade a distro by what the default wallpaper is when you first login.. luckily ubuntu ditched the hugging people.
[04:07] <LinuxNewbie> hahaha...
[04:07] <jasoncohen> i have KDE 3.4.1 installed from kubuntu sources. when i try to install kdemultimedia-dev i get errors saying that the 3.4.0 version of akode, kdelibs4-dev, artsbuilder, kdemultimedia-kio-plugins, kmix, kscd, and libkcddb1 are needed but apt-cache show kdemultimedia-dev shows that the 3.4.1 versions are dependencies of kdemultimedia-dev 3.4.1-10ubuntu0hoary1
[04:07] <tiglionabbit> smack: lol, that's a pretty bad criteria
[04:07] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - check out http://linus.yhspatriot.net/cs/docs/ubuntu_howto/UbuntuLTSPInstall
[04:07] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: do you think the question was, which distro has the most restrictions...or least?
[04:07] <reka> jasoncohen: have you joined #kubuntu yet?
[04:07] <jasoncohen> good idea, heh
[04:07] <tiglionabbit> othernoob: he wants to restrict his users from doing things, like using the internet...
[04:08] <LinuxNewbie> well the restiction that users can use the internet on specific times
[04:08] <smack> LinuxNewbie: I'm a fan of debian based distrobutions. Ubuntu ranks #1 for a debian based desktop distrobution. But to each his own.
[04:08] <LinuxNewbie> and some can
[04:08] <smack> ranks #1 for me that is ;)
[04:08] <hastalavista> hi
[04:08] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - somewhere areound there it talks about systems like what you are kinda talking about
[04:08] <LinuxNewbie> im a windows server users
[04:08] <LinuxNewbie> user i mean
[04:08] <othernoob> ah okay, i didnt follow the whole convo
[04:08] <LinuxNewbie> but i can find anything to restrict the internet
[04:08] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - I think you need to document what you are really trying to achieve
[04:08] <LinuxNewbie> when my students are log in
[04:09] <b_e_n_z> when Steven Ballmer said .NET and SQL Servers are doommed, you better start replacing your windows servers
[04:09] <smack> LinuxNewbie: your probably familiar with vmware then. I suggest you install a couple different ones and play with them. ;)
[04:09] <hastalavista> i'm brazilian and need help with mysql + phpmyadmin in hoary. . .
[04:09] <seth220993> could I get this last answer? in dpkg L mozilla-firefox, what do I do next?
[04:09] <LinuxNewbie> well when you use those thinds
[04:09] <LinuxNewbie> things i mean
[04:09] <LinuxNewbie> u wil use a proxy setting
[04:09] <tiglionabbit> seth220993: what?  "IN"?  No, it's dpkg -L mozilla-firefox
[04:10] <TokenBad> in ubuntu if I want to see how many files are in a dir and all its sub dirs how would I do that?
[04:10] <tiglionabbit> seth220993: dpkg is the Debian PacKaGe manager, -L is the option for List, and mozilla-firefox is the argument for it
[04:10] <seth220993> then what, I get a blank
[04:10] <tiglionabbit> seth220993: you shouldn't get a blank if you typed it write
[04:11] <tiglionabbit> if you typed it right and have firefox installed, you should get several hundred lines of files
[04:11] <seth220993> k, got a lot of them
[04:11] <seth220993> yeah
[04:11] <seth220993> took a bit
[04:11] <tiglionabbit> 500 lines, woo
[04:11] <seth220993> so which one?
[04:12] <tiglionabbit> well, look through them for what looks like a firefox directory
[04:12] <tiglionabbit> your flash installer should give a good example
[04:12] <tiglionabbit> I'm pretty sure you can install flash directry through firefox though-- have you tried that?   I just checked out her GRUB menu.lst. The Grub root is referring to (hd0,1) Which is the second partition on her first hard drive. That's her current Ubuntu /, meanign that I'm nto going to be wiping out any kernels here.  Thanks for the help!
[04:13] <LinuxNewbie> hey guys
[04:13] <LinuxNewbie> have you tried red hat
[04:13] <LinuxNewbie> is that anygood?
[04:13] <seth220993> alright, thanks very much, if I need help I'll come back, very grateful
[04:13] <seth220993> :)
[04:13] <LinuxNewbie> im downloading it right now
[04:13] <tiglionabbit> LinuxNewbie: red hat sucks.  I'd say try Fedora instead
[04:13] <LinuxNewbie> ah?
[04:13] <tiglionabbit> I have not used Fedora, but I hated red hat a lot
[04:13] <Fazer> So, how's everyone tonight?
[04:13] <LinuxNewbie> so how about mandrake?
[04:13] <reka> tiglionabbit: apparently fedora sucks too
[04:14] <LinuxNewbie> is mandrake anygood?
[04:14] <reka> LinuxNewbie: from what i've heard, all rpm based distros are problematic with dependencies
[04:14] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - none of the popular distros are going to even come close to what you seem to be looking for
[04:14] <tiglionabbit> reka: oh.  Maybe mandrake then.  Whatever.  I like deb distros best anyway, heheh.  I'll go from here to gentoo, no need to return to rpm hell
[04:14] <reka> but those opinions came from people in here though :)
[04:14] <smack> reka: 1997 called and they want their generalization back.
[04:14] <reka> tiglionabbit: i completely agree.  deb all the way. :)
[04:14] <tiglionabbit> reka: I thought Fedora's YUM was supposed to solve that problem
[04:15] <LinuxNewbie> thats why im open to suggestions
[04:15] <concept10> I used fedora for a year
[04:15] <reka> smack: well, it wasn't *my* generalization.
[04:15] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - hows that documention coming?
[04:15] <reka> tiglionabbit: apparently it still has problems
[04:15] <concept10> yum is good but doesnt stackup well against APT
[04:15] <smack> reka: :D
[04:16] <LinuxNewbie> well basically ive search the internet for what im looking for
[04:16] <LinuxNewbie> ive found nothing
[04:16] <smack> LinuxNewbie: are you intending to experiment with desktop stuff or server stuff?
[04:16] <tiglionabbit> LinuxNewbie: then you're not being specific enough.  And what you want can probably be accomplished with scripts
[04:17] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - you must have skipped sf.net in your search
[04:17] <arentie> how do i make an uninstall of the ndiswrapper?
[04:17] <tiglionabbit> arentie: did you install it using apt/synaptic?  if so, just remove it using them
[04:18] <concept10> reka, tiglionabbit: yum solves alot of dependency problems but some of the problems are inside rpm
[04:18] <ookii> so what is the theory for installing new cards in linux, install the ati card first then get the drivers, or somehow install the drivers first and then stick in the card?
[04:18] <Ravarin> help
[04:18] <concept10> ookii, first way
[04:18] <LinuxNewbie> so here it is, i have a server right to share the internet connection, then i have users, which are my students, and some users that are faculty, then here is want i want, i want to restict the internet connection of stundent and still they are connected to lan, but the faculty can access the internet will full access
[04:18] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - document what you need, then /join #iptables
[04:18] <ookii> concept10: ha ok, thanks
[04:19] <Ravarin> \?
[04:19] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - put that on a web page and be prepared to add to it - you are about 1/4 done
[04:19] <arentie> no I created it using the following compiling: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[04:19] <LinuxNewbie> when you do that, they will be identify using the IP's
[04:19] <CarlFK> so it is Users or Machies that you are trying to manage?
[04:19] <LinuxNewbie> yes
[04:19] <LinuxNewbie> exactly
[04:19] <concept10> LinuxNewbie, you can close outgoing port 80 for internet
[04:20] <CarlFK> users have an anoying habbit of waking around
[04:20] <waterseven> (Hi there... does anyone knows where is the template where the menu item 'Add/remove programs' and the application itself can be translated?)
[04:20] <LinuxNewbie> for users?
[04:21] <LinuxNewbie> can i specify which users can be close
[04:21] <concept10> LinuxNewbie, yes
[04:21] <LinuxNewbie> outgoing port 80
[04:21] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - look in sf.net again.  what you want is there - it may just take some searching to find it
[04:21] <LinuxNewbie> ok
[04:21] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - and stop calling machiens users
[04:21] <concept10> LinuxNewbie, actually not users, a specific machine
[04:21] <CarlFK> what did the machine ever do to you to deserve being called a user
[04:21] <CarlFK> ;)
[04:21] <tiglionabbit> waterseven: 'the template'?
[04:22] <LinuxNewbie> hahaha..
[04:22] <concept10> Although there maybe solutions available to restrict users
[04:22] <arentie> is there something that does the opposite of the command "make deb"?
[04:22] <tiglionabbit> arentie: what you want to do is dpkg -r and the names of the packages
[04:22] <CarlFK> concept10 - yeah, but user based is way harder than mac
[04:23] <waterseven> (the Hoary template where I can find the strings that translate those specific things I mentioned)
[04:23] <tiglionabbit> I mean no, that's wrong
[04:23] <waterseven> (in Rosetta... launchpad.ubuntu.com)
[04:23] <concept10> CarlFK, I understand that.  I just said it maybe possible
[04:23] <tiglionabbit> arentie: the thing you want to undo is dpkg -i.  Let me read the manual
[04:23] <tiglionabbit> (you can to, man dpkg)
[04:23] <CarlFK> concept10 - although no matter how may proposals get apporved, as soon as the thing goes up, some teach is going to want to sit at a student's box and get to the net
[04:24] <LinuxNewbie> thats why
[04:24] <tiglionabbit> oh yes, I was right the first time.  dpkg -r and the packages
[04:24] <LinuxNewbie> i want the students usernames to be restrict
[04:24] <arentie> So, instead of dpkg -r, I want dpkg -i?
[04:24] <LinuxNewbie> not the machine
[04:24] <tiglionabbit> arentie: yes
[04:24] <tiglionabbit> arentie: you'll want to use the name it installs as, when it says "selecting previously deselected package _________", not the file name
[04:24] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - make up you mind, document it, have it handy for people to read....
[04:25] <arentie> Ok, so the package is Ndiswrapper...is that what I use?
[04:25] <CarlFK> LinuxNewbie - your project is a bit too complex to describe in a few IRC lines
[04:25] <LinuxNewbie> the users
[04:25] <LinuxNewbie> the students usernames
[04:26] <LinuxNewbie> that is i want to restrict
[04:26] <LinuxNewbie> that is all i want
[04:26] <LinuxNewbie> nothing more
[04:28] <nxvl> hi
[04:28] <waterseven> (Anyone here that does translations? )
[04:28] <nxvl> how can i download windows-codecs to see mi windows videos on linux? there was a package i don't remember his name
[04:29] <nalioth> nxvl: w32codecs
[04:29] <nxvl> thnx u
[04:29] <nalioth> nxvl: or you can go to www.mplayerhq.hu  and d/l the "essential pack"
[04:30] <nxvl> nxvl@Marvin:~$ apt-cache search w32codecs
[04:30] <nxvl> nxvl@Marvin:~$
[04:30] <tiglionabbit> nxvl: you need to enable the universe repository
[04:31] <tiglionabbit> and restricted
[04:31] <tiglionabbit> uncomment things in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:31] <nxvl> restricted is the one i didn't have
[04:31] <arentie> what does the following command do? sed -e "s/misc/kernel\/drivers\/net\/ndiswrapper/g" debian/rules > debian/temp
[04:31] <nalioths_dog> nxvl: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:31] <nalioths_dog> nxvl: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:32] <tiglionabbit> arentie: that is stream editor, and I don't know how it works, but it is witing something from /debian/rules over the file debian/temp
[04:32] <CarlFK> closest I can find is avifile-win32-plugin - but I don't think that is it
[04:32] <tiglionabbit> CarlFK: what you looking for?
[04:33] <jasoncohen> there was no reponse in #kubuntu but i figured out the problem. apt-get is trying to install kdelibs4-dev from hoary rather than the kubuntu source and that conflicts against the 3.4.1 packages i have installed. i don't know why it's using hoary's packages though.
[04:33] <jasoncohen> apt-get install kdelibs4-dev=3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1 complains that it can't be found
[04:33] <CarlFK> tiglionabbit - trying to help nxvl
[04:33] <jasoncohen> but it shows in apt-cache show kdelibs4-dev
[04:33] <nxvl> it still say there is no such package
[04:34] <nxvl> nxvl@Marvin:~$ bajar w32codecs
[04:34] <nxvl> Reading package lists... Done
[04:34] <nxvl> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:34] <nxvl> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:34] <nxvl> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:34] <nxvl> is only available from another source
[04:34] <tiglionabbit> CarlFK: the package is indeed called w32codecs
[04:34] <tiglionabbit> nxvl: read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats .  It details it there
[04:35] <Dr_Melectaus> Could someone help me, im wanting to install an edimax ew-7108pcg wifi card
[04:37] <misfit_toy> is there a GUI for starting , stopping , changing system services in ubuntu?
[04:37] <Dr_Melectaus> Could someone help me, im wanting to install an edimax ew-7108pcg wifi card ??
[04:37] <misfit_toy> I know FC has one, but what about Ubuntu?
[04:37] <calc> easiest to just uninstall the services that shouldn't be running
[04:38] <misfit_toy> calc, no, because I might want one later
[04:38] <calc> its not terribly hard to reinstall later either ;)
[04:38] <misfit_toy> so my guess is there isn't one huh?
[04:38] <calc> there might be some gnome sys tool thing that does it
[04:38] <PTK> nxvl, are you using the 64 bit distribution by any chance?
[04:38] <nxvl> nalioth: i know how to use apt, i was a Debian user
[04:39] <misfit_toy> calc, in FC it's system-config-services
[04:39] <calc> but other than that most people using debian/ubuntu just don't install unneeded services
[04:39] <nxvl> PTK: nop, im using i386
[04:39] <misfit_toy> calc, but ubuntu installed a few I don't want running *all the time* and I'd like to be able to control that.
[04:40] <misfit_toy> I see, there is no such thing, bummer.
[04:40] <calc> hmm i don't see any non-essential ones running on my box
[04:40] <calc> misfit_toy: which ones in particular?
[04:40] <misfit_toy> calc, that is beside the question, I"m asking if there is a gui for service controls....if there is none then that's fine.
[04:41] <calc> well you said that it installed by default some services that you didn't want running so i was just trying to figure out what those could possibly be :)
[04:41] <calc> since on my box at least all that is running that might be non-essential is gdm
[04:41] <misfit_toy> calc, but my question was 'is there a gui to control services'
[04:41] <calc> misfit_toy: i'm not at my ubuntu box so i can't check, sorry
[04:42] <misfit_toy> calc, thanks
[04:42] <PTK> mkintry gives a warning -- cpio:   /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0000002a95556000): No such file or directory and produces a useles image <--- anyone know why that happens when the file exists?
[04:42] <PTK> mkinitrd even
[04:42] <misfit_toy> PTK, at first I thought it said 'ministry' lol
[04:42] <calc> there is a runlevel configuration for gnome-system-tools which is installed on ubuntu so it might do it for you
[04:42] <misfit_toy> PTK, I thought your box was born again.
[04:42] <Grunt> Dr_Melectaus: or I can just join in here, because I know I'll mess something up somewhere ;)
[04:42] <PTK> lol
[04:43] <misfit_toy> calc, cli?
[04:43] <Dr_Melectaus> oh hi Grunt
[04:43] <Hackmo> Hey all
[04:43] <Dr_Melectaus> lol
[04:43] <misfit_toy> hmm
[04:43] <Dr_Melectaus> yea thanks
[04:43] <Hackmo> has anyone installed beneath a steel sky?
[04:43] <calc> misfit_toy: gnome system tools obviously is a gnome program... which is GUI
[04:43] <calc> :)
[04:43] <Hackmo> or know how to start it..?
[04:43] <Grunt> right, so we were going to set you up with an ndiswrapper-utils package
[04:43] <calc> misfit_toy: there is a cli tool to do it as well besides the obvious remove symlink
[04:43] <Dr_Melectaus> Grunt, im a bit of a n00b so go easy on me
[04:43] <misfit_toy> calc, I understand that but I thought you meant it was a cli under gnome...sorry for the misunderstanding
[04:44] <Grunt> ..there should already be a copy on your computer, so
[04:44] <Grunt> open up a root terminal and type "apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils"
[04:44] <Dr_Melectaus> ok
[04:44] <Dr_Melectaus> ok
[04:44] <calc> iirc the cli tool is update-rc.d
[04:45] <misfit_toy> Grunt, make sure you don't install ndiswrapper with apt-get, it's not the latest and doesn't work with all cards. I ran into that this week.
[04:45] <Dr_Melectaus> ok its installed Grunt
[04:45] <CVirus> guys i've got partitions C,D,E,F,G and my windows partition is D ... and my  C is 7 gigas .. so i installed ubuntu on it but i didnt find windows in my boot loader ... tip please ?
[04:45] <Grunt> misfit_toy, you seem to have more experience at this than I do, in that case
[04:45] <Grunt> misfit_toy, Dr_Melectaus needs some help setting up ndiswrapper with his network card
[04:46] <Dr_Melectaus> O_o
[04:46] <fundle> can someone tell me how to mount a remote xp drive?
[04:46] <Grunt> Dr_Melecatus: well, while we figure out who's going to be helping you, go find the driver CD that came with the network card
[04:46] <Dr_Melectaus> Grunt,  just continue man, i trust you
[04:46] <Grunt> 'k
[04:46] <misfit_toy> Grunt, I'll shut up
[04:47] <Dr_Melectaus> i have it right next to me Grunt
[04:47] <Travis|H> i am trying to setup my system to watch television via a local network stream .. at first I thought I would try out NSV (Nullsoft Video) but NSV seems to crash the hell out of mplayer. So instead I went with windows media encoder. It streams fine to my other Windows based PC's but I can't get mplayer to open that either. Is there some trick to getting streaming video to work with Mplayer?
[04:47] <misfit_toy> Grunt, just wanted to point that out
[04:47] <rob^> has anyone else had problems burning dvds in breezy, even with growisofs
[04:47] <Grunt> misfit_toy: feel free to chime in at any point in time - I much prefer doing this sitting in front of my own computer
[04:47] <bimberi> fundle: Try to connect to it via Places -> Network Servers
[04:47] <misfit_toy> Grunt, what wifi nic are we doing here?
[04:47] <CVirus> guys i've got partitions C,D,E,F,G and my windows partition is D ... and my  C is 7 gigas .. so i installed ubuntu on it but i didnt find windows in my boot loader ... tip please ?
[04:47] <Grunt> let's see..
[04:47] <Grunt> misfit_toy: <Dr_Melectaus> Could someone help me, im wanting to install an edimax ew-7108pcg wifi card on ubuntu
[04:48] <Dr_Melectaus>  an edimax ew-7108pcg wifi
[04:48] <Grunt> Dr_Melectaus, ok, put the CD in
[04:48] <Dr_Melectaus> k
[04:48] <Dr_Melectaus> tisin
[04:48] <Dr_Melectaus> tis in
[04:48] <Dr_Melectaus> **
[04:48] <Grunt> look on the CD
[04:48] <Dr_Melectaus> kk
[04:48] <Grunt> you want to find a *.inf file
[04:48] <Grunt> once you find it
[04:48] <Grunt> er, wait, there might be more than one *.inf file.
[04:48] <Grunt> hm
[04:48] <tigliona1bit> oops, pulled my cord out
[04:48] <tigliona1bit> .
[04:49] <fundle> bimberi: trying that
[04:49] <misfit_toy> Dr_Melectaus, there will be some folders, find the w2k or wxp folder, the files are there
[04:49] <Grunt> thanks, misfit_toy.
[04:49] <misfit_toy> w2k usually works better
[04:49] <Travis|H> i am streaming via windows media encoder, and on my Windoze based PC I simply point my WMP @ http://192.168.2.xxx:5199 and it opens up the video stream and plays it. When I try to do the same with Mplayer, it simply says "Unable to open URL"
[04:49] <Grunt> In any case, once you find the right driver, go to a root terminal and run "ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom/path/to/the/*.inf
[04:49] <Grunt> "
[04:49] <fundle> bimberi: can i mount it that way too ?
[04:50] <CVirus> guys .. no one gonna help me ?
[04:50] <sobralense> is there any way to install "transcode" package using the stable sources?
[04:50] <Dr_Melectaus> ok
[04:50] <Dr_Melectaus> got them
[04:50] <Grunt> Dr_Melectaus: did you see my last line?
[04:50] <bimberi> fundle: oh ok - misunderstood your q.  Not sure.
[04:51] <fundle> bimberi: I think i'm good from here
[04:51] <fundle> tkns
[04:51] <Dr_Melectaus> nope
[04:51] <Dr_Melectaus> shit, ill need to have a better look. it containes multiple drivers for diff cards
[04:51] <Dr_Melectaus> need to find the specific one
[04:52] <Grunt> I don't think it would hurt to install more than one
[04:52] <Dr_Melectaus> right got it grunt
[04:52] <Grunt> k
[04:52] <Grunt> Did you run the "ndiswrapper -i ..." from a root terminal?
[04:52] <Dr_Melectaus> ok
[04:52] <Quest-Master> Travis|H: http://www.videolan.org
[04:52] <Dr_Melectaus> uhm not yet
[04:52] <Dr_Melectaus> ill try now grunt
[04:53] <Grunt> "ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom/path/to/the/*.inf"
[04:53] <Dr_Melectaus> did you say win2k xp or 9x works better?
[04:53] <Grunt> 2k
[04:53] <Dr_Melectaus> k
[04:54] <Dr_Melectaus> to the folder than containes the 3 files or to a certain file in the folder
[04:54] <Grunt> to the *.inf in that folder
[04:54] <Dr_Melectaus> .cat .inf .sys
[04:54] <Dr_Melectaus> k
[04:54] <Grunt> done?
[04:55] <CVirus> Grunt: i've got partitions C,D,E,F,G and my windows partition is D ... and my  C is 7 gigas .. so i installed ubuntu on it but i didnt find windows in my boot loader ... tip please ?
[04:55] <Travis|H> Quest. i'll give that a shot
[04:56] <Grunt> CVirus: I've never had any reason to attempt a dual boot, so can't help you.  Sorry. :/
[04:57] <CVirus> thanks
[04:57] <CVirus> guys anybody got experience with dual boot ?
[04:57] <Grunt> Dr_Melectaus: you still with us?
[04:57] <Dr_Melectaus> jesus
[04:57] <_unome> No new emails in any folders matching 'inbox'
[04:57] <Dr_Melectaus> its saying its not the right path
[04:58] <tiglionabbit> CVirus: me
[04:58] <CVirus> tiglionabbit: got my question ?
[04:58] <Grunt> Dr_Melectaus: what's the exact message it's saying?
[04:59] <Travis|H> VLC sits there
[04:59] <tiglionabbit> CVirus: generally windows's main components are installed to the drive it calls C.  You may have deleted windows!
[04:59] <Dr_Melectaus> fuck, i closed the terminal
[04:59] <Grunt> (keep in mind that things need to be case sensitive in the console!)
[04:59] <Travis|H> it doesn't play a stream =/
[04:59] <pschulz01> Greetings.. how do I set environment variables so they take effect pemanently.
[04:59] <CVirus> tiglionabbit: LOL ... no dont worry .. its on my D
[05:00] <tiglionabbit> CVirus: well, when I installed ubuntu, it detected windows properly and added it to my menu.lst.  Anyway, now that you're using linux, you should use linux terminology for your volumes
[05:00] <Grunt> Dr_Melectaus: so open up another one and try, try again ;-)
[05:00] <PTK> pschulz01, how permanently?
[05:00] <tiglionabbit> CVirus: can you tell me what linux calls them, like hda1 and such?
[05:00] <pschulz01> PTX: restart machine... ed. EDITOR
[05:00] <misfit_toy> bbl
[05:00] <pschulz01> PTX: restart machine... eg. EDITOR
[05:01] <CVirus> tiglionabbit: actually its not my pc which is having dis problem and i forgot to check for those info in /proc
[05:01] <CVirus> tiglionabbit: i just want to add windows to grub menu
[05:01] <NeoGeo64> lol wikipedia has a simple english section now
[05:01] <Dr_Melectaus> Grunt, ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom0/Drivers/EW-7108PCg/Win2K/Rt2500.INF rt2500 is already installed. Use -e to remove it
[05:01] <Dr_Melectaus> thats what i got
[05:01] <Grunt> ah!
[05:01] <Grunt> ok
[05:01] <NeoGeo64> http://simple.wikipedia.org
[05:01] <Grunt> You already succeeded, then :-)
[05:01] <Dr_Melectaus> ohh
[05:01] <tiglionabbit> CVirus: your physical hard drives are called a, b, c, etc.  The partitions on them are 1 2 3 etc counting from the start
[05:01] <Dr_Melectaus> So
[05:01] <Grunt> right then
[05:01] <Grunt> let's see if that worked
[05:02] <Grunt> we're going to step you through a one-time runthrough and if that works we'll show you how to set it up across reboots :)
[05:02] <Grunt> still have that root terminal open?
[05:02] <Dr_Melectaus> yes
[05:02] <Grunt> ok