[12:00] <johan_> soundray: 2000mhz Pentium 4, 512 mb rdram memory (maybe that's it? rdrams are dead expensive though so I can't really upgrade), and 2 ide harddrives. ati radeon 9600xt, but the graphics feel neat and fast
[12:00] <cpk2> johan_: most likely it is gnome, you could try using fluxbox or something and see if you see a difference
[12:00] <epimer> i tried to edit my menu.lst and broke grub. please someone tell me how to boot ubuntu from the grub command line
[12:01] <Rikkimaru_> soundray: found a decent list on the wiki :D
[12:01] <soundray> johan_: what is it exactly that feels slow?
[12:01] <Cntryboy> crimsun: if u had 2.1KB max and averaged 1.5KB would you wanna click on ever link that was gave to u?
[12:01] <johan_> cpk2: I've seen some screenshots and I don't really like what I see. Is it possible to make it look pretty much like gnome? I really like the way gnome looks
[12:01] <Cntryboy> takes 10 min for me to load em
[12:02] <Viper550> I have a question, which RPM package contains SUSE's new Industrial icon set?
[12:02] <johan_> soundray: for example when I open a terminal it takes a few seconds to get the username@computername thing to show up, has never been like that before
[12:02] <crimsun> Cntryboy: I have 3.4 KB/s max on a GOOD day, so no, I certainly don't click everything, and even then I prefer links/w3m
[12:02] <jrib> Viper550: #suse is probably a better place for that
[12:02] <Viper550> They, wern't reponding
[12:02] <Viper550> I mean responding
[12:02] <crimsun> Cntryboy: however, the idea is orthogonal to your connection. There's documentation that explains the difference; you just have to read it.
[12:03] <epimer> could somebody please walk me through booting with grub, since i broke it? i've commandeered my gf's laptop to plead for advice
[12:03] <Cntryboy> crimsun: but in one sentence you couldn't just tell me?
[12:03] <soundray> johan_: have you got any processes hogging CPU? Check with top
[12:03] <Cntryboy> lol
[12:03] <tcv> When one exports to the path, does that append or replace?
[12:03] <tcv> When one exports to the path, does that append or replace?
[12:04] <zorglub> if you dou "export PATH=XXX", it replaces
[12:04] <Cntryboy> crimsun: btw if ur using dialup, do u know how to share a pppd connection with internet which im on now and having a caller id program working at the same time to screen calls? I can't figure it out, if one works other is locked and vice versa
[12:04] <zorglub> to append, use export PATH=$(PATH):XXX"
[12:04] <metaj> erUSUL are you steel there
[12:04] <tcv> ah
[12:05] <johan_> soundray: rhythmbox at 10% (isn't that too much for a minimized music player?) and then Xorg at 2%
[12:05] <tcv> zorglub: do you know why the second one works?
[12:05] <five_laptop> Cntryboy, you would need some sort of call waiting service
[12:05] <soundray> zorglub: that won't work for tcv
[12:05] <Cntryboy> five_laptop: I have call waiting on my phone now, windows xp works fine I use callwave
[12:05] <crimsun> Cntryboy: I disable all that mess
[12:05] <five_laptop> Cntryboy, exactly... you would need some sort of linux client for a service like that
[12:05] <johan_> soundray: is there some equalivent of windows services that you can disable? when shutting down you always see "shutting down bittorrent tracker" for example, I don't need that
[12:05] <Cntryboy> but from what ive read linux can't share pppd connection with connection and caller id at same time
[12:06] <Cntryboy> which is lame
[12:06] <Jimmey> !nvidia
[12:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:06] <Cntryboy> five_laptop: linux client? u mean like call wave for linux
[12:06] <kakado> what is the difference between linux-image-2.6.25-amd-generic and ...-k8 ?
[12:06] <soundray> johan_: there is a package called bum, perhaps you want to look into that (no pun intended)
[12:06] <soundray> !info bum
[12:06] <ubotu> bum: graphical runlevel editor. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1build1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 484 kB
[12:06] <tcv> soundray: why won't that work?
[12:06] <Aesop> Hey, is mail 'n stuff for Thunderbird stored in /home/use/.mozilla-thunderbird? (So, if I copy that folder, will t contain all my mail and settings?)
[12:06] <Cntryboy> five_laptop: do ya know of any? thats free
[12:06] <johan_> soundray: thanks, I'll check it out
[12:06] <five_laptop> nope
[12:06] <epimer> i tried to edit my /boot/grub/menu.lst and it was an empty file. is that normal?
[12:07] <echeese> how can I get my wacom to work with the gimp?
[12:07] <Cntryboy> well sheet thats not helping me lol
[12:07] <soundray> tcv: $(PATH) will attempt to run a command called PATH and insert it into the export statement. It will abort with "command not found"
[12:07] <Jimmey> epimer, not really.
[12:07] <soundray> tcv: $PATH or ${PATH} will work
[12:08] <tcv> soundray: can you explain the difference between the two commands? why does one delete while the other appends?
[12:08] <epimer> Jimmey: there was also /boot/grub/menu.lst~, which looked right (it had the list i see when grub starts up). i commented out the options i don't use, and now it's broken
[12:08] <epimer> how do i fix it?
[12:08] <soundray> tcv: but usually you want to pre-pend, not append additional paths. So, better to do 'export PATH=/additional/path:$PATH'
[12:09] <forevertheuni> hi..when I do bootstrap in svn releases I'm always having this: src/Makefile.am:4: invalid unused variable name: `AM_LDFLAGS'
[12:09] <forevertheuni> what can I do?
[12:09] <Jimmey> epimer, broken?
[12:09] <five_laptop> Cntryboy, that is a very specialized service that probably wont be worked on in Linux, considering the low demand anymore for anything dialup related
[12:10] <Cntryboy> eehhh
[12:10] <Cntryboy> someone needs to make one
[12:10] <epimer> Jimmey , i rebooted and now instead of my newly edited boot list, i'm on a grub command line
[12:10] <Cntryboy> u think its low demand
[12:10] <Cntryboy> but i bet mannnny out there just like us
[12:10] <johan_> does midi work in vmware?
[12:10] <epimer> and i don't really know what i'm doing (as should be obvious by me breaking it in the first place...)
[12:11] <primal> okay guys. i'm back. it's busted! good thing i have another computer around :)
[12:11] <soundray> tcv: try these commands: 'a="Hello" ; a="$a World" ; echo $a' -- that should clarify it for you
[12:12] <tcv> soundray: thx
[12:12] <primal> i rebooted in recovery mode, typed in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:12] <ScatterBrain> Can someone tell  me how to control the order that modules load in initrd?
[12:13] <primal> thought i got it all configured correctly, but apparently not
[12:14] <epimer> easier question: what command do i type in the grub command line to list the available hard drives?
[12:14] <Ropechoborra> How do i extract a .rar file??
[12:14] <Cntryboy> does anyone know if theres movie fixes? for example when u download from apollon or any p2p client and u can't view a movie..
[12:14] <Nekow42> !rar
[12:14] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[12:15] <Ropechoborra> ty
[12:15] <Nekow42> Cntryboy: Try VLC
[12:15] <Cntryboy> vlc won't fix em
[12:15] <Cntryboy> it plays em
[12:15] <Cntryboy> like for example divxfix for windows
[12:15] <kakado> !kernel
[12:15] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:15] <Cntryboy> or mpeg fixers ect
[12:15] <soundray> epimer: you could do a 'find vmlinuz-2.6.15'; that will tell you where bootable kernels of that version are
[12:15] <johan_> In windows I have a quick search on google with the keyword google and now I've added one in ubuntu. The only thing that is disturbing me is that when I type only google in windows, I get to the googel start page but in ubuntu, I get to a google search for %s. I want it to be like in windows. How do I fix?
[12:15] <primal> does anyone know how to troubleshoot xorg.conf files?
[12:15] <epimer> ty soundray
[12:16] <kakado> !linux-image
[12:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about linux-image - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:16] <primal> i just put in a new video card and screwed it up
[12:16] <kakado> !linux
[12:16] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[12:16] <soundray> epimer: 'geometry' might help, too, as might 'help'
[12:16] <LjL> !info linux
[12:16] <ubotu> linux: Generic complete Linux kernel.. In repository restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:16] <chucky> im trying to run easy ubuntu
[12:17] <Anticamper> heya guys
[12:17] <Anticamper> ^___^
[12:17] <chucky> i put in the comands into the terminal and it said it failed on a system sanity check
[12:17] <primal> please, anybody?
[12:18] <chucky> gave me an error saying you must manually run dpkg --configure -a so i did
[12:18] <soundray> primal: what kind of video card?
[12:18] <LjL> primal: have you tried just "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[12:18] <chucky> and now its hung up on "setting up flashplugin-nonfree (<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3) ..."
[12:18] <Anticamper> i just instaled ubunto and everything is going smooth except i can't get my wmp54g WIFI card to work, anyone free to help me? i have time
[12:18] <tmccrary> apt-get -f install
[12:19] <tmccrary> just that
[12:19] <soundray> chucky: how long for?
[12:19] <chucky> 10mins
[12:19] <epimer> "find /vmlinuz" tells me (hd1,3). so i type kernel (hd1,3)/vmlinuz, then boot, and it starts then stops at "kernel panic"
[12:19] <epimer> what's going on?
[12:19] <tmccrary> primal, whats wrong?
[12:19] <soundray> epimer: you also need to give it an initrd
[12:20] <nofear> hola people :)
[12:20] <epimer> soundray, i don't know what that means
[12:20] <epimer> trying to follow a tutorial/the manual and getting lost
[12:21] <soundray> epimer: do a 'find initrd' and feed one of the resulting files to grub with 'initrd /initrd-2.6.15-whatever' before you type 'boot'
[12:21] <soundray> epimer: and after you've entered the 'kernel ...' line
[12:21] <Orbit45244> Somebody help me please, when my computer is booting up with the 6.06 i386 Live CD, it goes through some operations which come back successful, and then it shows a black screen that says "Extracting Linux.... Ok, starting kernel" and then it stops booting.
[12:22] <epimer> soundray "find initrd" returned error 15: file not found :/
[12:22] <soundray> epimer: 'find /initrd'?
[12:23] <soundray> Orbit45244: could be a faulty CD. If it's not, look at the help screens at the boot prompt.
[12:23] <epimer> soundray, file not found still
[12:23] <soundray> epimer: 'find /boot/initrd'?
[12:24] <epimer> soundray , same again
[12:24] <soundray> epimer: strange -- is this an ubuntu installation?
[12:24] <Orbit45244> It's not a faulty CD, because the MD5's match
[12:25] <Tomatix> do someone has any howtos to create a ubuntu/debian server as a small router?
[12:25] <epimer> yep
[12:25] <soundray> Orbit45244: then it might be an incompatibility which might be fixed with one of the workarounds offered on the help screens.
[12:25] <epimer> and it was all working great until i tried to edit menu.lst and found it empty
[12:25] <kakado> I couldnt find info on the web about differences between linux-image-2.6-amd64-generic and linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8. Correct me but if I have a single CPU K8 processor this should be right ?
[12:26] <soundray> kakado: generic works on more machines, k8 is (slightly) optimized for Athlon64, Athlon X2 and Opteron CPUs.
[12:27] <Orbit45244> I have a Compaq computer, and there doesn't appear to be any workarounds on ther help screens.
[12:27] <bla|patrick> gn8
[12:27] <kakado> soundray, thx
[12:27] <bla|patrick> gonna go :)
[12:27] <bla|patrick> see ya
[12:27] <soundray> epimer: it sounds like you may have accidentally deleted vital part of the root system...
[12:27] <soundray> s/part/parts/
[12:28] <soundray> Orbit45244: test with the 'vga=771' option.
[12:28] <epimer> all i did was gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst~ and comment out the options i didn't want (the older kernel versions), leaving the current version and its failsafe mode, along with the memtest and my XP option
[12:28] <chucky> safe i got everything i needed to work
[12:28] <chucky> awsome
[12:29] <soundray> epimer: well, first of all, you shouldn't edit /boot/grub/menu.lst~ -- that's a backup copy.
[12:29] <Orbit45244> soundray: okay.  But I'm not running on a laptop.
[12:29] <soundray> epimer: then, the part of the file that says "AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST" is not supposed to be edited.
[12:29] <epimer> oh. that'll be it, then.
[12:30] <epimer> and i guess i can't edit it again without actually booting to my ubuntu install
[12:30] <chucky> im using a 16meg nvidia geforce4 which has a vga and composite out so i can plug it into a tv
[12:30] <soundray> epimer: to remove those options, you should remove the unused kernel packages
[12:30] <chucky> anyone know if this will auto send video to the tv or do i need to config it
[12:30] <chucky> and if i do what do i do/where is the display settings?
[12:31] <epimer> ok. lesson learned: no more messing with things i don't understand
[12:31] <soundray> epimer: you could try the fix from the wiki that you do when a Windows installation ruins grub. Watch ubotu:
[12:31] <soundray> !grub
[12:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:31] <epimer> ty soundray
[12:32] <soundray> epimer: no promises, though...
[12:32] <chucky> setting up dual screens anyone?
[12:32] <chucky> one tft and one tv
[12:32] <epimer> could be a fresh install for me!
[12:32] <epimer> just when i unbroke compiz, too...
[12:32] <soundray> epimer: or rescue attempts with the Desktop CD
[12:32] <epimer> thanks for your help and patience, soundray
[12:32] <epimer> a better plan
[12:32] <soundray> epimer: you're welcome
[12:32] <Orbit45244> uhm, how do I input the "vga=771" option when I hit F6?
[12:33] <MartinvDK> I have some difficult problems...
[12:33] <polpak> Orbit45244: are you doing the install?
[12:33] <Orbit45244> no
[12:33] <soundray> Orbit45244: the kernel name (I forget what it is), followed by a space, then vga=771
[12:33] <Orbit45244> just live cd
[12:33] <MartinvDK> I've been struggling with this for days, and gave up at last (a month ago), now I want to try again.
[12:33] <codecaine> anybody had a problem with flash websites not playing sound?
[12:34] <Orbit45244> so I just put it after the "--"?
[12:34] <MartinvDK> It's about getting nvidia-drivers to work, any hardcore linuxers?
[12:34] <Sub> i got my nvidia drivers working fine
[12:34] <ardchoille> What is the proper way to add a factoid to the bot?
[12:34] <MartinvDK> I'm pretty newb in linux, I have to say
[12:34] <soundray> codecaine: I think it happens when your sound device is blocked. Firefox doesn't work with esd now or something along those lines. Disable esd and it should work.
[12:35] <Sub> MartinvDK, google "easy ubuntu"
[12:35] <Sub> that can install nvidia drivers automatically for you
[12:35] <MartinvDK> well. I have tried that
[12:35] <soundray> MartinvDK: have you followed the wiki instructions? Watch ubotu:
[12:35] <MartinvDK> it did NOT work at all
[12:35] <madewokherd> how can I set up ubuntu to let me run xinit as a normal user?
[12:35] <soundray> !easyubuntu
[12:35] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:35] <soundray> !nvidia
[12:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:35] <MartinvDK> Arg I have tried all these
[12:35] <codecaine> how do you disable esd?
[12:36] <MartinvDK> I must be doing something wrong though: If I change nv to nvidia in xorg.conf, linux FREEZES a boot
[12:36] <soundray> MartinvDK: post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:36] <MartinvDK> or right before boot
[12:36] <Sub> MartinvDK, try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[12:36] <satafterh> what do i use to set up my dsl connection(password)
[12:36] <Sub> then restart
[12:36] <Sub> if you see a nvidia splash before gdm then you are using the nvidia drivers
[12:36] <soundray> Sub: MartinvDK has followed the wiki -- I doubt that your suggestion will help
[12:37] <ardchoille> MartinvDK: I would like to politely suggest that you go back to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto and make sure you didn't miss a step. I have used that how to and have installed the nvidia drivers on more than 50 machines.
[12:37] <MartinvDK> I will do that
[12:38] <soundray> ardchoille: wow, 50 machines with ubuntu, 50 machines with nVidia cards -- I don't know whether to envy or pity you ;)
[12:38] <Coffeegrindah> can anyone help with a quick and dirty folder sharing issue?
[12:38] <Coffeegrindah> btw samba is up
[12:38] <gregg__> soundray: well, the nvidia binary drivers are pretty good
[12:39] <ardchoille> soundray: I build computers, install Ubuntu and then donate them to friends and family.. I've gotten pretty good with the nvidia drivers :)
[12:40] <nekostar> nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:40] <nekostar> anyone got evolution working with gmail ?
[12:40] <Coffeegrindah> soundray: I've seen a few things (haven't tried for drivers) but you may ebven want to look into BUMPS
[12:40] <nekostar> i can recieve stuff from my box easy
[12:40] <nekostar> but gettting it to send is a no-go
[12:40] <ardchoille> nekostar: Yes, I have a link, hold on
[12:40] <soundray> ardchoille: how friendly do we have to be before you donate a computer to me? ;)
[12:40] <Coffeegrindah> that is if yer having a driver prob
[12:40] <Sakunix> hi all anyone know how to get my GeForce FX5700 VIVO graphics card functioning properly?
[12:40] <nekostar> ardchoille, ive got a few links :/
[12:40] <Sub> nekostar, sounds like you havent set the smtp settings,
[12:40] <nekostar> configged like they sayand its deadoz
[12:40] <nekostar> i have Sub
[12:40] <Sub> have you done POP3 AND SMTP?
[12:41] <nekostar> smtp.gmail.com
[12:41] <ardchoille> nekostar: I wrote this one so I know it works
[12:41] <nekostar> ok
[12:41] <nekostar> ill delete the acct and start over with yer howto ardchoille
[12:42] <PanicFo> whats a good graphical app to manage processes?
[12:42] <Sub> PanicFo, system monitor
[12:42] <ardchoille> nekostar: Here is the informatin that I used to setup Evo with gmail: http://natsci.eckerd.edu/~bordelsr/gnomehelp/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Gnome212.EvolutionGmail
[12:42] <PanicFo> something that shows all the app running?
[12:42] <Coffeegrindah> SubL: agreed
[12:42] <Sub> PanicFo, system/admin/System Monitor
[12:42] <soundray> Coffeegrindah: I'm alright. Actually, I have an ATI problem: System freezes when I switch away from the console where X runs.
[12:42] <PanicFo> system monitor doesnt show all processes running
[12:42] <Sub> yes it does
[12:43] <ardchoille> nekostar: It seems they took part of my how to out, I wish people wouldn't delete stuff from my how-to's because I know this works.
[12:43] <PanicFo> ive got apache running and it doesnt show up in there?
[12:43] <kilowat>   /server irc.spnet.net
[12:43] <Sub> PanicFo, apache if it runs through xinetd or inetd wont run until it is called
[12:44] <Coffeegrindah> soundray: cool I just came across BUMPS, Seems to smooth out alot of problems while taking your hands off things.. i gotta get the word out there at how easy multimedia config is after taht
[12:44] <PanicFo> ok
[12:44] <Sub> start accessing your local web pages and then look
[12:44] <ardchoille> soundray: I help friends, family and businesses switch from Windows to Linux. You are already on Linux, so you wouldn't need my help ;)
[12:44] <nekostar> nope
[12:44] <nekostar> no go ardchoille
[12:44] <nekostar> says improper authentication
[12:44] <nekostar> there's also no port option in evolution
[12:44] <PanicFo> yep there we go :D
[12:44] <nekostar> and using colons doesnt help
[12:44] <PanicFo> thnx
[12:45] <PanicFo> im new to this whole linux thing
[12:45] <ardchoille> nekostar: you set the port with pop.gmail.com:995 in the server field.
[12:45] <Sub> nekostar, you jus need to tell its secure SMTP, gmail uses the secure smtp ports
[12:45] <MartinvDK> When I follow this nvidia-guide, I want to be sure nothing will go wrong now... Is it a good idea to delete the old drivers and start from a zero-point?
[12:45] <soundray> Coffeegrindah: have you got a link for that? Can't seem to locate it on the web.
[12:45] <ForeClosure> hello
[12:45] <Coffeegrindah> soundray: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181248
[12:45] <ForeClosure> i need help
[12:45] <ForeClosure> denied@d-u-Desk:~$ ls
[12:45] <ForeClosure> Desktop  Download  Examples  source.list~
[12:46] <soundray> Coffeegrindah: thank you
[12:46] <ForeClosure> denied@d-u-Desk:~$ cd download
[12:46] <ForeClosure> bash: cd: download: No such file or directory
[12:46] <ForeClosure> i try to change to the download directory
[12:46] <redcard> capital D
[12:46] <Coffeegrindah> np it's mostly for getting A/V working but it also sullpies ati/Nvidia drivers and gets em running
[12:46] <Dark_Knight_209> anyone know where some good dual monitor wallpaper may be?
[12:46] <ForeClosure> but it seems the directory doesnt exist
[12:46] <ardchoille> ForeClosure: cd /path/to/download
[12:46] <nekostar> ive tried the secure connection both types of secure: ssl and tls
[12:46] <nekostar> neither work
[12:47] <ForeClosure> is it case sensitive ?
[12:47] <nekostar> ive got the text type as plain on there
[12:47] <ardchoille> ForeClosure: yes
[12:47] <redcard> ForeClosure: It is
[12:47] <ic56> ForeClosure: unix is case sensitive.  spell download with a capital D, like your listing shows it
[12:47] <ForeClosure> ill try
[12:47] <nekostar> my username is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>all through it
[12:47] <gregg__> ForeClosure: use tab-complete, it's very convenient, try cd Do<tab>
[12:48] <nekostar> "bad authentication response from server "
[12:48] <ForeClosure> thank you
[12:48] <ardchoille> nekostar: Sorry about that, I didn't know they changed my how-to. I'd walk you through it but I don't have Evo installed on this machine
[12:48] <trev__> does anyone know how to install ut2004 in linux
[12:48] <z0r1> Does Ubuntu not support WPA?
[12:48] <ForeClosure> errrrr
[12:48] <ForeClosure> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[12:48] <ForeClosure> checking for gcc... no
[12:48] <ForeClosure> checking for cc... no
[12:48] <ForeClosure> checking for cc... no
[12:48] <ForeClosure> checking for cl... no
[12:48] <ForeClosure> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:48] <ForeClosure> See `config.log' for more details.
[12:48] <ForeClosure> whats that mean ?
[12:48] <z0r1> That means your about to get kicked
[12:49] <ardchoille> nekostar: Isn't there a button that reads "Check what the server accepts" or some such?
[12:49] <Kyral> !ubotu tell ForeClosure about compile
[12:49] <nekostar> ardchoille, mind if i dcc u a pic of the screen in question ??
[12:49] <ForeClosure> !compile
[12:49] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:49] <nekostar> nyaa ?
[12:49] <tailsfan> I Installed alsa and I still get no sound
[12:49] <z0r1> Does anyone know if ubuntu supports WPA wireless encryption?
[12:49] <soundray> z0r1: ubuntu has basic WPA support. It doesn't work with all wireless drivers, though.
[12:49] <PreZLaptop> hehe, IRC from the train :)
[12:49] <ardchoille> nekostar: How about posting the pic on http://www.imageshack.us/
[12:50] <nekostar> i dont wanna join ~_~
[12:50] <tailsfan> any ideas?
[12:50] <ardchoille> nekostar: there is no join
[12:50] <Dark_Knight_209> nekostar, you odn't gotta join
[12:50] <Dark_Knight_209> dont*
[12:50] <soundray> z0r1: for rt25xx, for example, you have to update the driver module yourself to have WPA support
[12:50] <z0r1> Well I can see all these wifi hotspots (including mine) but all I see is a place to enter stuff for WEP not WPA ... where do I go to for that/
[12:50] <ardchoille> PreZLaptop: IRC from the train? That's cool :)
[12:50] <nekostar> inuyasha-lives.com/shots
[12:50] <nekostar> try that
[12:51] <z0r1> How do I know if I have rt25xx ?
[12:51] <Kyral> WPA-Supplicant
[12:51] <CarlFK> help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[12:51] <Orbit45244> well, the command "vga=771" doesn't fix my earlier problem.  By the way, boot gets stuck at "Adding Live CD User"
[12:51] <nekostar> and of course i changed my username to user@ for this purpose
[12:51] <ardchoille> nekostar: See that button that says "check for supported types"?
[12:51] <z0r1> I think that's all I needed CarlFK ... Thank you
[12:51] <CarlFK> z0r1: look at the bottem first
[12:51] <PreZLaptop> ardchoille, heh, Verizon's BroadBand Access .. I got it working under linux consistently
[12:52] <ardchoille> PreZLaptop: Wowsers!
[12:52] <nekostar> ardchoille, yeah tried it
[12:52] <nekostar> plain is what everyone says it should be
[12:52] <z0r1> Dang .. I'm using Dapper
[12:52] <tcv> PreZLaptop: wow
[12:52] <CarlFK> z0r1: the "network management framework" part
[12:52] <nekostar> though plain and login are supposedly supported
[12:52] <ardchoille> nekostar: That button should return info to Evo and change the feilds to the correct settings. That is what was in my how-to. If that isn't working, then I don't know what to say :(
[12:52] <AlexHess> hi
[12:52] <trev__> does ubuntu have a automounter
[12:53] <ardchoille> trev__: yes
[12:53] <Coffeegrindah> trev_ yup
[12:53] <soundray> z0r1: look into network-manager-gnome as well
[12:53] <soundray> !info network-manager-gnome
[12:53] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME Frontend). In repository main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 234 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[12:53] <trev__> whats it called
[12:53] <ardchoille> trev__: I think Ubuntu uses hald
[12:53] <Orbit45244> help! when I boot up Ubuntu using the i386 Live CD on my Compaq PC, it gets stuck at "Adding Live CD User".
[12:53] <trev__> how do you use it
[12:54] <GarretS> Is there a mail server installable via Synaptic?
[12:54] <Nukeador> hi all
[12:54] <MartinvDK> I've just downloaded a new kernel, do I have to install anything.. and what is kernel headers, do I have to install them?
[12:54] <polpak> Orbit45244: that step generally takes a while. are you sure it's stuck?
[12:54] <nekostar> just say evolution fails
[12:54] <ardchoille> trev__: in gnome, it's System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media
[12:55] <trev__> ok, thx
[12:55] <Orbit45244> mart: yes, it switches to the black screen that says "Extracting Linux.... Ok, booting up the kernel"
[12:55] <soundray> GarretS: postfix is the recommended one, I think
[12:55] <Nukeador> i dont understand why a simple text page exported into pdf takes up 340 kb. O_o
[12:55] <GarretS> !postfix
[12:55] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[12:55] <polpak> MartinvDK:  you shouldn't need to download the kernel yourself. there are packages in the repositories for them
[12:55] <Gullstad> !irssi
[12:55] <ubotu> IRSSI is a command line interface IRC application ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )
[12:55] <soundray> Nukeador: how did you export?
[12:55] <MartinvDK> polpak, but it was downloaded with the update :S
[12:55] <emontesinos> Alguien sabe espaol
[12:56] <Nukeador> soundray, using OO 2.0, export to pdf
[12:56] <Nukeador> emontesinos -> #ubuntu-es
[12:56] <Orbit45244> mart: yes, it switches to the black screen that says "Extracting Linux.... Ok, booting up the kernel"
[12:56] <MartinvDK> so everything is just automaticly
[12:57] <imme> !obotu
[12:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about obotu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:57] <MartinvDK> then I'll be  back..
[12:57] <polpak> I'm having an issue with the boot splash on my new dapper install. The screen just blacks out until GDM starts. I've tried setting vga= with various options on the kernel, but it does not appear to work. It keeps complaining about unknown modes even though I'm using the standard vesafb modes 789, 791, etc
[12:57] <imme> !ubotu
[12:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:57] <soundray> Nukeador: I just tried with some random text, got 41k. Have you set unusual fonts?
[12:58] <Nukeador> soundray, i used the default one nimbus roman
[12:58] <Nukeador> which font should i use
[12:58] <gregg__> ubotu: all-knowing? some kind of really bad joke?! ;p
[12:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about all-knowing? some kind of really bad joke?! ;p - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:58] <polpak> anyone familiar with how to set the resolution on the bootsplash in ubuntu?
[12:58] <z0r1> test
[12:58] <z0r1> can anyone hear me?
[12:59] <polpak> !fb
[12:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about fb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:59] <Orbit45244> someone told me earlier to disable USB 2.0 in my BIOS, so I did, and then it switched to the black screen at the "Setting up Keyboard" stage
[12:59] <soundray> Nukeador: when I do it with Nimbus, my PDF is three times bigger. Try with Times New Roman (may have to install msttcorefonts)
[12:59] <on2see> This is me, GarretS, from IRSSI
[01:00] <ardchoille> polpak: I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then put vga=791 in the kernel line in menu.lst and it worked. Are you sure you have the correct settings in xorg.conf?
[01:00] <imme_> imme_ < !ubotu
[01:00] <Nukeador> soundray, which font did u use the first time?
[01:00] <on2see> !ubotu
[01:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:00] <soundray> Nukeador: Times New Roman
[01:00] <Nukeador> oh... ok
[01:00] <AlexHess> i have a problem with openoffice 2.0.2 on ubuntu 6.06: i copied some opentype-fonts to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/, ran fc-cache, and they are being listed in "system->preferences->font" but openoffice doesn't list them
[01:01] <z0r1> Hmm Ok so I ran sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome but I don't see any difference in my configuration stuff
[01:01] <polpak> ardchoille: the boot settings (the splash screen) aren't dependent on the xserver. I'm in X now, so that's working fine. It should just be the boot option, but I guess I'll have to try some of the other options
[01:01] <Tommy2k4> the livecd installer says there was an error partitioning the drive
[01:01] <soundray> Nukeador: I think the export packages non-standard fonts into the PDF as needed. So the impact won't be as bad in, say, a 20 page document.
[01:01] <Tommy2k4> but doesnt explain why
[01:02] <on2see> exit
[01:02] <Nukeador> soundray, 340 kb is a huuuuge file for 1 page
[01:02] <Nukeador> hehe
[01:02] <trev__> i need to run the file linux-installer.sh, how do i do that from the command promt
[01:03] <ardchoille> sh filename.sh
[01:03] <trev__> thankyou
[01:03] <soundray> Nukeador: yeah, like I say, I suspect it's the font.
[01:03] <WRobinson> Hi, I've installed a SoundBlaster AWE 32 ISA PnP sound board, how I make the ubuntu configure and use it? Simply using the pnpdump and isapnp tools, as suggested somewhere?
[01:03] <z0r1> So what am I supposed to do after running the network-manager-gnome installer?
[01:03] <Nukeador> soundray, thanks :)
[01:03] <z0r1> I still can't get WPA to work
[01:03] <AlexHess> z0r1: try nm-applet
[01:04] <Nukeador> jesus, 160 kb  with times new roman O_o
[01:04] <ForeClosure> !.asc
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about .asc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:04] <AlexHess> z0r1: it should display an icon in the notification-area on your panel after that
[01:04] <GarretS> is there an IRC channel for WINE?
[01:04] <GarretS> !wine > me
[01:04] <ardchoille> GarretS: #winehq ?
[01:04] <ironfroggy> is there a way to configure that for every user to mount some remote volume in their home directory?
[01:05] <ForeClosure> what is .tar.asc ?
[01:05] <Dark_Knight_209> how do you open a .ace
[01:05] <ardchoille> ForeClosure: That may be an ascii armored gpg sig
[01:05] <ardchoille> !info unace
[01:05] <ubotu> unace: extract, test and view .ace archives. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.2b-3 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 80 kB
[01:06] <Dark_Knight_209> only command line?
[01:06] <soundray> ironfroggy: yes. Add the remote volume to /etc/fstab with 'noauto,users' in the options. Then you can add a mount command to, for example, each user's $HOME/.gnomerc
[01:07] <z0r1> Ok I tried nm-applet but the icon that appears just has Wired network listed ... and it doeesn't appear to be seeing my wireless card... I tried deactivating and reactivating my wireless card in the Networking settings but no luck
[01:07] <ardchoille> Dark_Knight_209: if you have universe enabled and have doen a sudo apt-get update after it's enabled, you can do apt-cache search unace
[01:07] <Aesop> Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but when the Ubuntu installer for Dapper says 'Unable to create a filesystem', that's -bad-.
[01:07] <z0r1> If I go to properties for my wireless card .. I can choose all the different wireless networks around .. so I know it's seeing my card and my card's working correctly
[01:07] <Dark_Knight_209> i'ms orry, i have unace. I mnt to say i'm lookin for a gui
[01:07] <soundray> z0r1: do you have a wireless network in reach?
[01:07] <Dark_Knight_209> or soemthing right click friendly
[01:07] <ardchoille> Aesop: Yes, that isn't good. No file system, no place to keep files.
[01:08] <z0r1> yeah 4 .. but they are all encrypted
[01:08] <Aesop> Yeah, it was kind of a ironic comment...
[01:08] <ardchoille> lol
[01:08] <polpak> ironfroggy: with smb mount? or some other type?
[01:08] <ardchoille> Aesop: Love your fables
[01:08] <Aesop> What FS does Ubuntu use? Not Reiser, by any chance?
[01:09] <LjL> Aesop: ext3
[01:09] <polpak> ironfroggy: thx for playing Go w/ me the other day btw. Was fun
[01:09] <ardchoille> It can use a few diff ones: reiserfs, ect2, ext3 and others.
[01:09] <soundray> z0r1: do you have wpasupplicant installed?
[01:09] <Aesop> Meh, I'd hoped Dapper would use Reiser or other journalling FS
[01:09] <void^> .. ext3 is journalled
[01:09] <polpak> Aesop: by default it's ext3, but you can install xfs or reiser if you like
[01:09] <z0r1> idk how cna I check?
[01:10] <gregg__> Aesop: resie isn't exactly known as being stable (though it works stable for many people)
[01:10] <gregg__> s/resie/reiser/
[01:10] <AlexHess> z0r1: i had the same problem when i had all the wpa-supplicant-stuff in my /etc/network/interfaces
[01:10] <z0r1> YEs I do soundray .. i just checked
[01:10] <Aesop> Oooohhhh haa..
[01:10] <gregg__> umsdos :)
[01:10] <Aesop> I've got the drive mounted, that would bea  problem, right?
[01:11] <gregg__> teh filesystem!
[01:11] <AlexHess> z0r1: i did set my wlan-iface to auto and after a reboot nm-applet found wireless and all those networks
[01:11] <z0r1> "wpasupplicant is already the newest version."
[01:11] <grout> how can i find my xwindows version?
[01:11] <gregg__> Aesop: of course :)
[01:11] <LjL> grout: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg
[01:11] <gregg__> grout: Xorg -version
[01:11] <z0r1> alright alex .. I'll try rebooting ... bbiab
[01:11] <Aesop> gregg__: Was backing stuff up, forgot to unmount
[01:11] <Aesop> D'oh
[01:12] <gregg__> anyone here who remembers umsdos?
[01:12] <Aesop> Yup, there it goes
[01:12] <soundray> gregg__: yes
[01:12] <gregg__> this silly FAT "extension"?
[01:12] <soundray> gregg__: oh dear, I think I just revealed my age... ;)
[01:12] <gregg__> I used it for my first linux experiments :)
[01:12] <ardchoille> soundray: haha
[01:12] <gregg__> about 10 years ago
[01:13] <soundray> gregg__: I gave up on it when I found that it couldn't store a file with a leading . in the name ;)
[01:13] <void^> hah, umsdos. was cute though, using loadlin.exe to boot linux from dos.
[01:13] <imme> So why won't firefox open up. :S :(
[01:14] <ardchoille> imme: launch it from a term and see if there is any error output
[01:14] <imme> that's a very nice debug help... good tip, tnx.
[01:14] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[01:15] <bla|patrick> !rar
[01:15] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[01:16] <ardchoille> !unrar
[01:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about unrar - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:16] <Rondom> apt-get install unrar unace is your friend
[01:16] <soundray> !info unrar-nonfree
[01:16] <ubotu> Package unrar-nonfree does not exist in dapper
[01:16] <soundray> oh
[01:16] <Rondom> !info unrar
[01:16] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[01:16] <polpak> !info unrar-free
[01:16] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[01:16] <Rondom> !info unrar-free
[01:17] <Rondom> unrar-free can't unpack new rar-files
[01:17] <ForeClosure> errr
[01:17] <ForeClosure> configure: WARNING: Ouch!! Libpcap (at least 0.8.x) library is needed in order to compile Yersinia!!...
[01:18] <ardchoille> Why does the bot say "Package unrar-nonfree does not exist in dapper" yet !info unrar says it does exist?
[01:18] <MartinvDK> Hello there, I've been following this nvidia-guide, but in a late step, I get an error. This is the guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:18] <z0r1> hmm rebooting didn't fix it .. I still see no ESSIDs under nm-applet .. it just says wired connection
[01:18] <Anticamper> hey guys i am like a complete 100% newb to this
[01:18] <z0r1> Any other ideas how to get WPA working on my laptop"
[01:18] <softwork> php
[01:18] <z0r1> :
[01:18] <Anticamper> i can't figure out how to instal stuffs
[01:18] <gregg__> MartinvDK: please provide the error message
[01:18] <Infern0o> zor1: is your wireless card installed correctly?
[01:18] <LjL> !tell Anticamper about packages
[01:19] <ardchoille> MartinvDK: What is the error you get?
[01:19] <avalean> how can i check what type of vid card i have real quick on the machine im running without having to open it (ie. nvidia type or ati) ?
[01:19] <soundray> ardchoille: it's very subtle ;) The package is called unrar now, not unrar-nonfree, like it used to
[01:19] <Infern0o> zor1: since that's the first thing that needs to be done :D
[01:19] <javiolo> !info unrar-free
[01:19] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[01:19] <ardchoille> soundray: Ahh, that explains it
[01:19] <MartinvDK> in the guide, it says 'in the terminal window, typw the following: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable', and I get the following error:
[01:19] <MartinvDK> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[01:19] <MartinvDK> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[01:19] <MartinvDK> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[01:19] <MartinvDK> command:
[01:19] <MartinvDK> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[01:19] <MartinvDK> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[01:19] <MartinvDK> from nv to nvidia.
[01:19] <javiolo> !paste
[01:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:19] <void^> avalean: lspci
[01:19] <ForeClosure> !libcap
[01:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about libcap - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:19] <soundray> MartinvDK: you've pasted the answer to your problem.
[01:19] <javiolo> !tell martinvdk about paste
[01:20] <MartinvDK> thanx, I know pastebin :)
[01:20] <Anticamper> i am so confused
[01:20] <Anticamper> >_<
[01:20] <MartinvDK> hehe, nice bot :P
[01:20] <javiolo> !tell ardchoille about unrar-free
[01:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about unrar-free - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:20] <Anticamper> can someone pull me aside to talk here?
[01:20] <javiolo> !tell ardchoille unrar-free
[01:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell ardchoille unrar-free - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:20] <gregg__> MartinvDK: simply edit the file manually, as you are told :)
[01:20] <soundray> MartinvDK: that makes it worse, pasting in the channel when you know there is an alternative.
[01:20] <test> Hiall
[01:20] <Sakunix> anyone got any idea how to get RivaTV running on Ubuntu?
[01:20] <ardchoille> !unrar-free > ardchoille
[01:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about unrar-free  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:21] <imme> !firefox
[01:21] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:21] <javiolo> ardchoille thats it
[01:21] <LjL> !info unrar-free
[01:21] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[01:21] <LordElph> anyone know how to configure an interface in /etc/network/interfaces to stop it responding to ARP requests?
[01:21] <Bo> hey my ubuntu freezes at the loading when it says "looking for root files"
[01:21] <z0r1> infern0o well I can see ESSIDs in my wireless cards properties
[01:21] <ardchoille> javiolo: Thanks
[01:21] <MartinvDK> sry.. it's just so much easyer, when paste bin is sloooow
[01:21] <Bo> its like the 3rd thing that loads
[01:21] <Sakunix> RivaTV anyong a pro?
[01:21] <z0r1> So yes It's installing correctly
[01:21] <soundray> MartinvDK: you can get kickbanned for that kind of thing.
[01:22] <void^> ForeClosure: you probably want libpcap0.8-dev
[01:22] <imme> ardchoille, There are no errors in the terminal windows
[01:22] <imme> -s
[01:22] <MartinvDK> :'(
[01:22] <roger21> i'm having problem to have a proper console display with lilo and vga=792 does anybody eard something about that (vga=792 workd fine with grub)
[01:22] <ardchoille> imme: type:  ps aux | grep firefox  and see if it's already running
[01:22] <MartinvDK> I tried pastebin before, uploading a xorg.conf.. man it was slow, I gave it up :P
[01:22] <Aesop> !info filesystem
[01:22] <ubotu> Package filesystem does not exist in dapper
[01:22] <Aesop> !info filesystems
[01:22] <ubotu> Package filesystems does not exist in dapper
[01:22] <Aesop> Grr
[01:22] <profoX`> is it me, or is the latest youtube refusing to play audio ? other flash sites have audio (i use FIREFOX_DSP="aoss")
[01:22] <FunnyLookinHat> Has anyone here found a video player that will handle 1280x720 (HD) quality videos??  Xine just shows a black screen
[01:23] <Bo> hey what do i do if ubuntu freezes at hte loading screen? recovery mode does the same thing
[01:23] <Sakunix> !tell Sakunix about rivatv
[01:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about rivatv - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:23] <profoX`> FunnyLookinHat: mplayer will play that with the right codecs
[01:23] <ubuntu__> hi
[01:23] <test> Can someone tell me the directory to put in kmail to access local mail?
[01:23] <Aesop> profoX`: YouTube does weird things wuth audio
[01:23] <javiolo> martinvdk google for pastebin there are others
[01:23] <profoX`> FunnyLookinHat: I think VLC plays it by default, not sure
[01:23] <MartinvDK> yes sir
[01:23] <FunnyLookinHat> profoX`, yea vlc failed too
[01:23] <Aesop> !tell aesop about ext3
[01:23] <profoX`> Aesop: they recently changed some things and now i can't hear sound anymore..!
[01:23] <gregg__> FunnyLookinHat: your graphics card's overlay support is probably not up to the job, change the output device to 'x11'
[01:23] <AthlonBIH> i need help with ubuntu...
[01:23] <soundray> test: probably /var/mail/username
[01:24] <z0r1> i need help with ubuntu...
[01:24] <Aesop> profoX`: Yup.
[01:24] <Aesop> z0r1: Little more specific?
[01:24] <Bo> my ubuntu freezes at the startup screen how do i fix it?
[01:24] <z0r1> So has anyone got WPA to work w/ dapper?
[01:24] <profoX`> Aesop: so you have the same problem?
[01:24] <ardchoille> AthlonBIH: You came to the right place, but we need to know the problem.
[01:24] <FunnyLookinHat> gregg__, ahh, that makes more sense.  I'll try that
[01:24] <test> soundray: I'll give it a try.....
[01:24] <gregg__> FunnyLookinHat: (that means to switch off xv) - it might slow down things though
[01:24] <ziro01> yo
[01:24] <Sakunix> ls
[01:24] <Aesop> profoX`: Yeah, but, unlike you, I don't really care. =D
[01:24] <gregg__> s/might/will/
[01:24] <profoX`> Aesop: well i do care, i wanted to browse some youtube things :)
[01:24] <AthlonBIH> i want to use 2 monitors
[01:25] <profoX`> Aesop: and i don't have windows anywhere, so i'm stuck with the old semi-broken flash7, taht has no sound on youtube
[01:25] <kalicrates> #ubuntu-br
[01:25] <Bo> does anybody know how to fix my frozen ubuntu loading screen? it would freeze at "loading root files"
[01:25] <z0r1> I need help getting Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA) working in Dapper .. Can anyone help? .. My wireless card is working fine.  I just don't have a place to enter in the WPA settings.. all I see is WEP
[01:26] <imme> ardchoille, output of what you told me is:  10896  0.0  0.0   2876   800 pts/1    S+   01:25   0:00 grep firefox
[01:26] <imme> ardchoille, abacadabra to me...
[01:26] <Infern0o> zor1: my query
[01:26] <Aesop> z0r1: It's possible to convert from WPA to WEP
[01:26] <ardchoille> imme: ok, that means the only thing running that is firefox-related is that grep command
[01:26] <Infern0o> omg: don't touch WEP!
[01:26] <Infern0o> :o
[01:26] <test> soundray:apparently that was it. :) No errors or anything, Yay!
[01:26] <imme> okay
[01:26] <z0r1> my query?
[01:26] <Aesop> WEP is good....
[01:26] <soundray> Bo, have you had a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions ?
[01:27] <Infern0o> z0r1: private message
[01:27] <z0r1> Aesop: WEP is good?  I can hack wep in about 15 minutes
[01:27] <Aesop> z0r1: On what encryption level =P
[01:27] <imme> ardchoille, :|   It suddenly works... :S
[01:27] <Infern0o> WPA outsecures WEP one kazillion times:)
[01:27] <z0r1> 64bit .. but 128bit can be hacked too
[01:27] <z0r1> thank you infern0o
[01:27] <Aesop> Wireless != Secure
[01:27] <Aesop> If you're concerned about security, don't use wireless at all
[01:27] <ardchoille> Infern0o: z0r1 isn't id'd to nickserv.. you may not be able to see his replies
[01:27] <z0r1> WPA = Secure
[01:27] <zukalk> guys, i'm trying to install gaim-2.0.0beta3, but its ./configure script requires XML::Parser, and sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::Parser' returns an error. any suggestions?
[01:27] <z0r1> let me id
[01:27] <ardchoille> imme: Awesome! :)
[01:28] <Infern0o> ardchoille: yeah i was thinking the same thing
[01:28] <Aesop> WPA != Secure, WPA == More Secure than WEP
[01:28] <z0r1> test
[01:28] <z0r1> bah
[01:28] <AthlonBIH> i need one picture on 2 monitors HELP!!!
[01:28] <gregg__> Aesop: or ipsec on top of your wlan
[01:28] <imme> ardchoille, I started it, but my terminbal window froze, so I did force quit then i restarted a terminal and thit the grep-thinggie you told me.
[01:28] <Infern0o> z0r1: wel i saw you where using nm-applet?
[01:28] <imme> ardchoille, before that it had gone in sleep mode.
[01:28] <gregg__> Aesop: AFAIK WPA2/AES is considered secure
[01:28] <Aesop> Problem with wireless is that anyone can access it- you don't have to actually get to a physical cable or jack
[01:28] <soundray> AthlonBIH: laptop?
[01:28] <javiolo> zukalk try checkinstall and auto-apt
[01:28] <Bo> soundray: no ill check it out
[01:28] <Aesop> That fact makes it inherently insecure, no matter what you put on top of it
[01:29] <ardchoille> imme: I have found, that when I have a bookmarks folder with a large number of bookmarks, firefox will freeze up
[01:29] <zukalk> javiolo: i haven't toyed with those in a long time. could you guide me?
[01:29] <AthlonBIH> no its PC
[01:29] <AthlonBIH> i have LCD and CRT
[01:29] <Aesop> If you're doing htings that require security over a wireless network, you aren't concerned enough about your security
[01:29] <gregg__> Aesop: so, in consequence every VPN should be considered 'insecure'?
[01:29] <AthlonBIH> i runn live distribution...
[01:29] <javiolo> !tell zukalk about checkinstall
[01:29] <rubyphyte> has anyone had any luck setting up lighttpd on ubuntu?
[01:29] <zukalk> javiolo: thanks
[01:29] <soundray> AthlonBIH: both on the same graphics card?
[01:29] <javiolo> !tell zukalk about auto-apt
[01:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about auto-apt - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:29] <AthlonBIH> yes
[01:29] <imme> ardchoille, This is the first time I'm on ubuntu on this machine so that's not the case here I think...
[01:29] <AthlonBIH> 9800PRO
[01:29] <ardchoille> imme: ok
[01:30] <Aesop> gregg__: True to a lesser extent. A VPN can still be considered a 'secured environment' but is not secure as a localized network with controlled gateways
[01:30] <soundray> AthlonBIH: erm, is that nvidia?
[01:30] <kalicrates> there is a problem with my cdrom.. when a do a command "desmeg | tail" : kalicrates@casa:~$ dmesg | tail
[01:30] <kalicrates> [17183765.768000]  hdb: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[01:30] <kalicrates> [17183765.768000]  hdb: command error: error=0x54 { AbortedCommand LastFailedSense=0x05 }
[01:30] <kalicrates> [17183765.768000]  ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[01:30] <kalicrates> [17183765.768000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 1024
[01:30] <kalicrates> [17183765.768000]  UDF-fs: No partition found (1)
[01:30] <kalicrates> [17183765.792000]  hdb: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[01:30] <kalicrates> [17183765.792000]  hdb: command error: error=0x54 { AbortedCommand LastFailedSense=0x05 }
[01:30] <kalicrates> [17183765.792000]  ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[01:30] <Aesop> argggg
[01:30] <kalicrates> [17183765.792000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 64
[01:30] <Aesop> Pastebin!
[01:30] <kalicrates> [17183765.792000]  isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdb, iso_blknum=16, block=16
[01:30] <javiolo> zukalk auto-apt install dependences, and checkinstall builds a deb
[01:30] <Dial_tone> STOP
[01:30] <ardchoille> !lighttpd > rubyphyte
[01:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about lighttpd  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:30] <kalicrates> Does anybody know what is this?
[01:30] <AthlonBIH> ATI radeon 9800
[01:30] <ardchoille> !info lighttpd
[01:30] <ubotu> lighttpd: A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.4.11-3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 273 kB, installed size 828 kB
[01:30] <skavenge> kalicrates: spam?
[01:31] <kalicrates> no!!
[01:31] <javiolo> zukalk you should sudo auto-apt run ./configure
[01:31] <javiolo> zukalk then make
[01:31] <soundray> Why is it that people come to this channel and just use it as they please, without reading the /topic?
[01:31] <javiolo> zukalk then sudo checkinstall
[01:31] <gregg__> Aesop: well, I'm not talking about 'absolute' security by any means :-)
[01:31] <imme> ardchoille, So what's firefox-bin -a firefox, does it mean something like start the binary file firefox with parameter a argument firefox?
[01:31] <zukalk> javiolo: roger that, i'll give it a go
[01:31] <ardchoille> !lighttpd > rubyphyte
[01:31] <skavenge> soundray: impatience
[01:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about lighttpd  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:31] <gregg__> if you want absolute security, cut the wire :)
[01:31] <javiolo> zukalk first update the auto-apt database
[01:31] <Aesop> gregg__: I'm talking calculated risks- mind if we take this to a private query before we get kicked? =P
[01:31] <ardchoille> imme: That would be my guess
[01:31] <ForeClosure> !gtk
[01:31] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
[01:32] <gregg__> Aesop: I won't mind stop talking about that... :)
[01:32] <imme> !ubotu > imme
[01:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about > imme - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:32] <ForeClosure> !gimp
[01:32] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[01:32] <zukalk> javiolo: auto-apt update && auto-apt updatedb && auto-apt update-local
[01:32] <Anticamper> so yea i found some packet manager but i still need help with actualy instaling programs
[01:32] <kalicrates> nobody? :(
[01:32] <imme> !ubotu > ubotu
[01:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about > ubotu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:32] <imme> !ubotu > !ubotu
[01:32] <AlexHess> z0r1: could you pleas post your /etc/network/interfaces on http://nopaste.biz ?
[01:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about > !ubotu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:32] <soundray> kalicrates: guess why nobody wants to talk to you.
[01:32] <javiolo> zukalk yes
[01:32] <Infern0o> Anticamper: the easyest way is to use applications --> add/remove
[01:33] <AthlonBIH> is there some control panel for graphic card
[01:33] <kalicrates> why? :|
[01:33] <imme> !ubotu
[01:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:33] <AthlonBIH> where i can set some tings with monitor?
[01:33] <Nekow42> AthlonBIH: NVIDIA has nvidia-settings
[01:34] <Dial_tone> what tings
[01:34] <Nekow42> AthlonBIH: Don't know about other vid cards
[01:34] <kalicrates> right! thanks for your help then! by
[01:34] <imme> !ubotu imme
[01:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about imme - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:34] <void^> ati has something similar
[01:34] <AthlonBIH> whats that mean :S i can't use both monitors as one
[01:34] <gregg__> how long does it usually take for ubotu factoids to get approved?
[01:34] <imme> !tell imme about ubotu
[01:34] <ardchoille> gregg__: I was wondering that myself
[01:34] <soundray> AthlonBIH: you probably can. Did you install ATI drivers according to the wiki?
[01:35] <soundray> !tell AthlonBIH about ati
[01:35] <void^> ah, dual monitor setup. joy. pretty well documented though.
[01:35] <Infern0o> !paste > kalibrates
[01:35] <gregg__> I just submitted two _important_ factoids ;)
[01:35] <MartinvDK> Hello again
[01:35] <Dial_tone> AthlonBIH did you try aticonfig?
[01:35] <AthlonBIH> no
[01:35] <ardchoille> albacker: Hey :)
[01:35] <AthlonBIH> where is aticonfig???
[01:35] <MartinvDK> now, when I install the nvidia-driver, it writes in xorg that I have ATI-card, but I have nvidia :S
[01:36] <albacker> how to add a user into a group [for ex. sudo]  !?
[01:36] <Infern0o> !tell Infern0o about ubotu
[01:36] <albacker> useradd or adduser :S ?
[01:36] <soundray> AthlonBIH: follow ubotu's advice
[01:36] <MartinvDK> and I get the error message:no screens found
[01:36] <gregg__> albacker: usermod
[01:36] <AthlonBIH> TNX
[01:36] <imme> !imme is an idiot
[01:36] <AthlonBIH> you are great guys
[01:37] <Aesop> gregg__: I gave you a sort of overview of the arguments about why wireless is generally considered not secure
[01:37] <AthlonBIH> i love linux :D
[01:37] <imme> !no, imme is a dumb-ass. :-P
[01:37] <Aesop> AthlonBIH: Join the club! =D
[01:37] <MartinvDK> hmm
[01:37] <MartinvDK> can I get a little help with my nvidia-stuff?
[01:37] <MartinvDK> any experts? :P
[01:37] <albacker> hello ardchoille :) i havent seen you in the other channel some times ago :)
[01:37] <albacker> gregg__, thanks
[01:37] <AthlonBIH> ;)
[01:38] <Aesop> MartinvDK: #nvidia, maybe?
[01:38] <gregg__> Aesop: I don't feel like discussing about a 'serious' topic right now, sorry...
[01:38] <albacker> gregg__, how to add it into sudo ?
[01:38] <imme> gregg__, are you registered and granted access to add factoids?
[01:38] <ardchoille> albacker: YEah, I don't use gnome much anymore
[01:38] <Infern0o> !factoids > Infern0o
[01:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about factoids  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:39] <gregg__> imme: no. ubotu told me the factoids would get checked by someone in #ubuntu-ops
[01:39] <albacker> ardchoille, don't tell me you're KDE user right now.
[01:39] <ardchoille> albacker: Nope, I use cli mostly now
[01:39] <imme> gregg__, And if there aren
[01:39] <imme> gregg__, 't any, it 'll take a long time... :)
[01:39] <albacker> cli :S another desktop manager?  or is it a light window manager like *box ?
[01:39] <albacker> ardchoille,  ^ ?
[01:39] <ardchoille> imme: How does one apply to be approved to add factoids?
[01:40] <tomasz> hi - I would like to access squid from outside of local domain, although I cannot telnet it from outside. I'm trying to use iptables to open the port 3128. It does not seem to work. What is the correct solution ?
[01:40] <imme> !foo
[01:40] <MartinvDK> Aesop, it's like this: I followed a guide about installing nvidia-drivers, on help.ubuntu.com. I enabled the drivers by 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' - but now my xorg.conf has changed, so it says I have a ATI radeon 7900 or something.. and when I boot, it says "No screens found"..  Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[01:40] <gregg__> imme: hey, that's MY factoid! :-))
[01:40] <AthlonBIH> Does ubuntu support Wacom tablet?
[01:41] <albacker> ardchoille, aha so you're kinda using a text-irc-client !? right ?
[01:41] <davey_> I need to talk to someone who has influence in the linux community, I found a problem
[01:41] <ardchoille> albacker: irssi all the way d00d :)
[01:41] <mjr> AthlonBIH, dunno about all of them, but at least some.
[01:41] <gnomefreak> davey_: speak
[01:41] <imme> ardchoille, you'll hav to be registered and then given acces, I don't know how either of those work.(yet)...
[01:41] <soundray> ubotu, foo is a metasyntactic variable which should be replaced with whatever makes sense in the context
[01:41] <davey_> The forms won't let me talk about it since they don't seem to belive me, i hae proof
[01:41] <MartinvDK> AthlonBIH, the old breezy did perfectly support my wacom.. the new dapper certainly NOT!
[01:41] <albacker> ardchoille, hah :) so no more GUI for you ?!
[01:41] <HedgeMage> ardchoille: Hey there :) Long time no see.
[01:41] <imme> gregg__, It's in the about !ubotu page...
[01:41] <davey_> amd64 has problems with linux certifiyed hardware
[01:42] <davey_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219285
[01:42] <davey_> I have more links if needed
[01:42] <davey_> the hardware manufacturer is highly rated in the linux comunity
[01:42] <imme> abuse !bot. :p
[01:42] <ardchoille> HedgeMage: How's my favourite Linux user?
[01:42] <gnomefreak> ubuntu supports 64bit fine its the restricted packages that are not supported
[01:43] <gregg__> imme: oh, I must have missed that paragraph...
[01:43] <davey_> gnoomefreek, please, it's not that
[01:43] <HedgeMage> ardchoille: Playing on the balcony with his red wagon ;)
[01:43] <imme> !tell imme !behaviour
[01:43] <ardchoille> HedgeMage: ROFL!
[01:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell imme !behaviour - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:43] <imme> !tell imme about behaviour
[01:43] <davey_> gnomefreak, the oss dirivers from the company don't compile on amd64
[01:43] <davey_> gnomefreak, this is a problem that many people have
[01:43] <imme> gregg__, Just above "Advanced Factoid Manipulation"
[01:43] <jjohn>
[01:43] <gregg__> imme: you can also query ubotu and stop spamming ;)
[01:43] <gnomefreak> davey_: from what company?
[01:44] <MartinvDK> imme: watch out.. someone is talking about spamming when I post 7 lines of code, now you are playing a lot woth that bot :P
[01:44] <davey_> gnomefreak, I just want people to know, I need to tell people ralink
[01:44] <technel_> 50 11 * * * /sbin/shutdown now should shutdown the computer at 11:50am every day automatically (in a crontab), right?
[01:44] <davey_> ralink cards
[01:44] <jjohn> helo all
[01:44] <davey_> they company was recommended to me on the Linux channel, it also has been on multiple webapges
[01:44] <Ropechoborra> Check this!! http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[01:44] <Ropechoborra> Ntfs writing proyect
[01:44] <Ropechoborra> =)
[01:44] <gregg__> albacker: if I uderstand you correctly, you want another user to the able to use sudo?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> davey_: again if you didnt get it from the main/universe/updates repos it is not supported by ubuntu
[01:44] <davey_> my locked hred has many links
[01:44] <gregg__> albacker: an existing user?
[01:45] <davey_> gnomefreak, it is listed as supported
[01:45] <gnomefreak> davey_: join #ubuntu-offtopic for a few mins please
[01:45] <codecaine> its it ok to put files on a windows drive by smb?
[01:45] <codecaine> ntfs
[01:45] <albacker> gregg__, yes. i remember adding the user to sudo group. i didnt remember using usermod tho' [i might be wrong]  i think i used useradd or adduser.. :S
[01:45] <jjohn>  Can some one please give me a clue on this irc thing howto receive a pvt msg and ow to talk to just one person
[01:46] <Orbit45244> does Ubuntu work on Compaq computers?
[01:46] <mjr> codecaine, using an ntfs filesystem remotely via smb is fine
[01:46] <Infern0o> jjohn: you need to register with nickserv first
[01:46] <gregg__> albacker: you can adjust the primary group with useradd/adduser
[01:46] <roger21> is it possible to choose lilo instead of grub while installing the last ubuntu ?
[01:46] <mjr> codecaine, linux doesn't need to know what the underlying filesystem is in that case
[01:46] <roger21> (and how ?)
[01:46] <Infern0o> jjohn: type /msg nickServ register help
[01:46] <Orbit45244> because I'm having several problems with running Ubuntu from a Live CD.
[01:46] <codecaine> cool
[01:46] <albacker> gregg__, i think its addgroup user group..  :S thanks neway
[01:47] <gregg__> albacker: but then, after the user has been created, you can add the user to more groups
[01:47] <rubyphyte> has anyone setup mongrel under dapper drake?
[01:47] <gregg__> albacker: works too :)
[01:47] <skavenge> roger21: you can install it later but theres no option no
[01:47] <albacker> =)
[01:47] <Infern0o> jjohn, got it?
[01:47] <lens_> this is a n00b question, what format does a movie file have to be in to burn a dvd?  What software is the best for conversion and quality... the easier the better.
[01:47] <roger21> skavenge, ok thx
[01:48] <MartinvDK> Well, looks like no one knows how to install nvidia-drivers..
[01:48] <gregg__> lens_: mpeg2
[01:48] <Orbit45244> does Ubuntu work on Compaq computers?
[01:48] <Anticamper> use nero mate
[01:48] <jjohn> inferno yes I think so ot sure what happening yet
[01:48] <technel_> 50 11 * * * /sbin/shutdown now should shutdown the computer at 11:50am every day automatically (in a crontab), right?
[01:48] <Anticamper> it is what i use to make dvd's
[01:48] <roger21> MartinvDK, did you looked at plf ?
[01:48] <gregg__> MartinvDK: open xorg.conf and replace "nv" with "nvidia"
[01:48] <Anticamper> its realy user friendly
[01:48] <cpk2> mpeg i think lens_ but you are going to need something that will burn in udf format to play it on most standard dvd players
[01:48] <Infern0o> jjohn, you managed to register?
[01:48] <MartinvDK> replacing nv with nvidia in xorg causes crash on boot
[01:48] <Infern0o> jjohn, since that has to happen first before we can go on :)
[01:48] <MartinvDK> plf?
[01:49] <skavenge> Orbit45244: that question is so broad there's no answer 'compaq computers' come with tons of different hardware on them and have been around for decades
[01:49] <LjL> technel_: i don't think the "shoutdown" command without parameters will shut down the system
[01:49] <lens_> cpk2 and gregg__... Is there a program most people use?
[01:49] <LjL> technel_: either use "halt", or give shutdown parameters, like i think "-H now"
[01:49] <cpk2> lens_: sourceforge has all sorts of tools
[01:49] <gregg__> MartinvDK: a hard freeze? pretty bad. what type of nvidia card do you have?
[01:49] <ardchoille> technel_: shutdown -h now for shutdown and shutdown -r for reboot
[01:50] <lens_> ok thanks guys.
[01:50] <technel_> LjL, Actually, I did spell it correctly: "shutdown" and I gave it the parameter "now"
[01:50] <MartinvDK> gregg__ nvidia Go 420 32mb
[01:50] <jjohn> Inferno I must be reg as I have usr name and my box logs me in when I start gnome ex chat
[01:50] <Ropechoborra> If i got a package in a web site, how can i use apt-get to download and install it directly
[01:50] <gregg__> lens_: sorry, I don't know much about video DVD mastering on linux
[01:50] <technel_> LjL, ardchoille, Oh, right -h for halt, thanks
[01:50] <cpk2> dvdstyler looked pretty neat last time i looked at it, but you will need something to convert everything to mpeg2
[01:50] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[01:50] <gregg__> MartinvDK: these notebooks cards often seem to cause problems
[01:51] <Infern0o> jjohn, ok so you are identified with nickserv...
[01:51] <Orbit45244> skavenge: because I'm running on a Compaq Presario SR1610NX PC and I can't get past boot up because of the errors
[01:51] <MartinvDK> gregg__ I guess.. :(
[01:51] <gregg__> MartinvDK: you might want to play around with the AGP settings...
[01:51] <cpk2> MartinvDK: you need to update the drives from console
[01:51] <skavenge> Orbit45244: what error? you need to be more specific for someone to help you
[01:52] <cpk2> drivers*
[01:52] <jjohn> Inferno your name shows in a different colour  if I click it opens "'inferno" dialogue
[01:52] <Infern0o> great
[01:52] <Infern0o> that's private message :)
[01:52] <MartinvDK> cpk2 how can I do that?
[01:52] <Infern0o> jjohn, can you answer me?
[01:52] <Infern0o> jjohn, in that box
[01:52] <LjL> technel_ by the way, you probably couldn't care less about this, but i was thinking, maybe you'd also be interested in "apt-cache show nvram-wakeup"
[01:53] <Orbit45244> skavenge: when I try to boot from my i386 Live CD, it gets to the "Adding Live CD User" then it goes to a black screen that says "Extracting Linux.... Ok, launching kernel" then the boot up stops.
[01:53] <jjohn> Inferno you should have msg
[01:53] <technel_> LjL, Sets the bios wake-up time? Sounds cool, I will check it out
[01:53] <skavenge> Orbit45244: have you tried the 'check cd' option at initial bootup?
[01:53] <gregg__> cpk2, doesn't dapper have the most recent drivers anyway?
[01:54] <maxLF> Yo, can I run game controls in ubuntu?
[01:54] <tuxtux> good night at all
[01:54] <Orbit45244> skavenge: I don't need to because the MD5 signature for the .iso file is what it should be
[01:54] <Infern0o> jjohn, let's continue there then ;,)
[01:55] <HedgeMage> maxLF: You mean a control pad or joy stick?  (if so, yes)
[01:55] <skavenge> Orbit45244: doesnt matter it might have burned incorrectly, how fast did you burn it? alot of people reccommend burning the livecd as slow as possible as its finicky
[01:55] <ForeClosure> hmmm
[01:55] <maxLF> HedgeMage: Do you have a list of ones that will run in ubuntu? :)
[01:56] <Orbit45244> scavenge: okay.  Does it matter if USB 2.0 is enabled in the BIOS?  Because someone said that it did.
[01:56] <HedgeMage> maxLF: There may be one somewhere, I don't know of one... I know that the ones my husband owns (both Logitech brand) work flawlessly though
[01:56] <gregg__> maxLF: every controller that supports USB HID should work.
[01:56] <skavenge> Orbit45244: i doubt it or havent heard of that .. your next option if the cd is to try and boot with some options turned off, like noacpi or ide=nodma in the grub menu
[01:56] <gregg__> maxLF: sometimes it's printed on the box
[01:56] <HedgeMage> maxLF: linux.strangegamer.com has good gaming info
[01:57] <Orbit45244> grub menu?
[01:57] <maxLF> HedgeMage, gregg__ , thanks
[01:57] <imbrandon> maxLF, and ones that connect to db25 like converted snes too via gamecon modules work perfect
[01:57] <gregg__> maxLF: you can also look for "compatible with mac osx"
[01:57] <ForeClosure> how i wanna check Ubuntu security ?
[01:57] <skavenge> Orbit45244: the initial menu at startup where you choose the like cd option, check cd, etc .. you can hit 'e' to edit
[01:57] <Infern0o> !security
[01:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about security - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:57] <skavenge> like=live
[01:58] <maxLF> gregg__, So if it works in mac it will work in Linux? And if it connects to USB it will work?
[01:58] <ForeClosure> !firewall
[01:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[01:58] <cpk2> !init
[01:58] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[01:58] <MartinvDK> !nvidia
[01:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:58] <MartinvDK> lol
[01:58] <cpk2> !telinit
[01:58] <MartinvDK> yeah roght
[01:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about telinit - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:58] <MartinvDK> right*
[01:58] <cpk2> !telinit
[01:58] <ForeClosure> how i wanna check Ubuntu's firewall ?
[01:58] <MartinvDK> !linux = endless problems :(
[01:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about linux = endless problems :( - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:59] <technel_> I need to run a command that requires root in a user's crontab. Is it possible to somehow use sudo?
[01:59] <cpk2> !runlevel
[01:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about runlevel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:59] <gregg__> maxLF: no! not guaranteed... for USB there's a standard called human interface devices (HID) and every controller which follows this standard works virtually everywhere (windows, mac, linux) without special drivers
[01:59] <polpak> Seriously you guys
[01:59] <polpak> !fishing
[01:59] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[01:59] <maxLF> gregg__, K thx dude
[02:00] <gregg__> maxLF: vendors often announce HID compatible devices as "mac compatible"
[02:00] <ForeClosure> !guide
[02:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about guide - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:00] <polpak> gnomefreak: you wouldn't happen to know what the valid vga modes are for usplash? I've tried quite a few but it keeps saying they're invalid
[02:00] <gnomefreak> !usplash
[02:00] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[02:01] <gnomefreak> it should be there
[02:01] <polpak> ForeClosure: the guide is a at help.ubuntu.com
[02:01] <polpak> gnomefreak: nope. I looked
[02:01] <ForeClosure> thanks
[02:01] <gnomefreak> polpak: than no
[02:01] <gnomefreak> sorry
[02:01] <polpak> gnomefreak: ok, no worries. I'll just keep guessing. I can't get anything on my lcd until X starts during boot
[02:03] <zoidberg> guys i have a problem
[02:03] <zoidberg> its with ogle
[02:03] <zoidberg> where is the site where i can post the error messages i'm getting
[02:03] <zoidberg> ?
[02:03] <cpk2> anyone know how to get to init 3?
[02:03] <zoidberg> u guys there?
[02:03] <maxLF> gregg__, will this work in ubuntu? http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10040462&catid=14262#
[02:04] <cpk2> sudo telinit 3 sets runlevel to 2 3
[02:04] <MartinvDK> zoidberg, only 763 users here now, you can't expect an answer! Wait some hours! :D
[02:04] <zoidberg> lol
[02:04] <MartinvDK> zoidberg: you can post error messages at pastebin.org
[02:04] <crimsun> cpk2: that's correct if you're referring to the output from ``runlevel'' after issuing ``sudo telinit 3''
[02:04] <zoidberg> yeah
[02:05] <MartinvDK> I learned that today, after posting 7 lines of code here, and it was called spamming :P
[02:05] <MartinvDK> while everybody played with a bot, creating 20 lines/second
[02:05] <cpk2> the problem is xserver is still running
[02:05] <MartinvDK> ;)
[02:05] <andy-> Anyone know what "perl -e "fork while fork" does?
[02:06] <gregg__> maxLF: probably, yes. if it doesn't, you can return it. :)
[02:06] <krism> andy-:  nothing good.
[02:06] <crimsun> cpk2: that's correct. We don't play runlevel games in Debian-based distros (by default). Runlevels 2-5 are identical.
[02:06] <andy-> krism: but what does it do?
[02:06] <maxLF> gregg__, Okay, Thanks For All Your help, sorry I'm so inquisitive, I'm only 14. xD;;
[02:06] <cpk2> crimsun: i see, so what if i want to close down xserver?
[02:06] <krism> andy-: looks like it will spawn an infinite number of processes
[02:07] <andy-> krism: ok thx.
[02:07] <nentis> MartinvDK, you could use this in the future and paste the URL:
[02:07] <nentis> http://rafb.net/paste/
[02:07] <crimsun> cpk2: then you stop the display manager. sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[02:08] <cpk2> crimsun: you know the kde equivilent?
[02:08] <Wiseguy> hey guys, how do i uninstall grub from the command line?
[02:08] <crimsun> cpk2: s/gdm/kdm/g
[02:08] <gnomefreak> Wiseguy: sudo apt-get remove grub?
[02:08] <technel_> I am trying to get a crontab to restart the computer. I added this, as root, to /etc/crontab: "3  18   * * *   root    shutdown -r now" so that it would restart at 7:03 PM system time, but nothing happened. Why?
[02:09] <technel_> Also, is there anyw ay to use sudo in my user crontab?
[02:09] <cpk2> crimsun: thanks
[02:09] <Wiseguy> gnomefreak, that will remove it from my mbr as well? or wherever ubuntu installs grub too?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> Wiseguy: no you asked to remove grub (i dont know linux command to clear mbr offhand) only remebers windows crap command
[02:10] <jjohn> I am trying to install bcm43xx cutter into acer 500x laptop Iwconfig is returning "invalid access point" can any one help please
[02:10] <gregg__> technel_: you can setup sudo to not ask for a password (dangerous)
[02:11] <technel_> gregg__, Indeed, any other way?
[02:11] <ForeClosure> which mail client should i use ?
[02:12] <ForeClosure> i was using outlook express before ^^
[02:12] <ForeClosure> !mail
[02:12] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[02:12] <ForeClosure> !mail client
[02:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about mail client - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:12] <gregg__> technel_: sudo is quite versatile, so you could set it up in a way that only shutdown (or whatever commands you want) can be used without password
[02:12] <ForeClosure> !evolution
[02:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about evolution - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:12] <cpk2> technel_: /var/cron/tabs
[02:12] <varsendaggr> hey is there a way to edit pdf's   with linux?
[02:12] <cpk2> technel_: there a root file there?
[02:13] <gregg__> technel_: man sudoers
[02:13] <varsendaggr> gregg__, how do i setup a program to be run with sudo without haviing to use a password?
[02:13] <Aesop> varsendaggr: OOo can edit PDF files
[02:14] <varsendaggr> Aesop, you are kidding
[02:14] <technel_> cparker, No, it doesn't exist
[02:14] <Aesop> varsendaggr: Not the last time I checked?
[02:14] <varsendaggr> wow
[02:14] <gregg__> varsendaggr: you have to modify your sudoers file with visudo, but I don't know the exact syntax. man sudoers should explain it.
[02:14] <Aesop> File > Save As > PDF
[02:14] <technel_> gregg__, Very cool, will check out the man page
[02:15] <zoidberg> alright guys
[02:15] <varsendaggr> Aesop, what about opening a pdf?
[02:15] <zoidberg> i have a problem with ogle the DVD player
[02:15] <Aesop> varsendaggr: Should be able to do it
[02:15] <zoidberg> it starts and i see the fbi warning in the cd and the another couple of screens
[02:15] <Aesop> Just open it from within OOo Writer
[02:15] <zoidberg> then it just crashes
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Hobo, here is a link on your lappy and getting the touchpad to work in Linux
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/Chris.Phillips/Dell_Inspiron_1100.html
[02:15] <zoidberg> here is the link on pastebin
[02:15] <zoidberg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18397
[02:16] <cpk2> technel_: you trying to do the script oout of anacron?
[02:16] <ImWolf> ello
[02:16] <ImWolf> im having some problems
[02:16] <technel_> cpk2, No idea what anacron is, just want to restart the computer at the given time :(
[02:17] <ImWolf> can anybody help me?
[02:17] <zoidberg> hey guys can someone help me out with OGLE dvd player crashing
[02:17] <zoidberg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18397
[02:17] <ForeClosure> hmmm
[02:18] <ForeClosure> except using cedega to run windows application (games) what else ? (for gaming)
[02:18] <gregg__> zoidberg: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages  -- install libdvdcss
[02:18] <varsendaggr> ForeClosure, you can get games like quake and others
[02:18] <cpk2> technel_: /etc/cron.d/anacron
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ForeClosure: For fps games try sauerbraten
[02:18] <jjohn> can anyone help me with my wlan setup/config please
[02:18] <ForeClosure> varsendaggr: im playing eve , gw and wow
[02:19] <ForeClosure> i wanna run those games in ubuntu
[02:19] <LjL> technel_: restart the computer? i think just using reboot instead of shutdown (or shutdown -r) on the same crontab entry you gave before should work...?
[02:19] <varsendaggr> ForeClosure, then use cedega
[02:19] <zukalk> javiolo: forgot to mention that everything's working now. thanks! ;)
[02:19] <varsendaggr> there is no other way
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ForeClosure: there are some special loaders for running some fps games like Serious Sam and warsow
[02:19] <ForeClosure> T_T cost money
[02:19] <ImWolf> can anyone help me with modem configuration?
[02:19] <hosler> So im trying to install the new version of Ubuntu on my laptop, but the CD is taking a LONG time to load anything and eventually freezes. Is there anyway I can install without X and booting to the live cd?
[02:19] <varsendaggr> ImWolf, don't bother get highspeed
[02:20] <Sub> hosler, use the alternative install cd
[02:20] <LjL> hosler: use the alternate cd
[02:20] <Sub> or jus upgrade online
[02:20] <cpk2> varsendaggr: high speed uses a modem too
[02:20] <hosler> how and where
[02:20] <Sub> !upgrade
[02:20] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[02:20] <technel_> LjL, Well, the truth is actually that I want to shut it down, but for testing purposes I am using shutdown -r to reboot
[02:20] <varsendaggr> cpk2 not a win modem
[02:20] <LjL> technel_: ah ok. anyway, is the method we talked about above not working?
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> varsendaggr: What type of modem?
[02:20] <technel_> LjL, But for some reason "3  18   * * *   root    shutdown -r now" didn't work in /etc/crontab
[02:21] <ImWolf> varsendaggr i wish
[02:21] <LjL> technel_: hmm you'd probably need to run  kill -s 1 `pidof cron`   to make cron re-read the crontab
[02:21] <ImWolf> i could
[02:21] <crogue5> are there complications with adding KDE to Ubuntu ? and is it enough to not recommend doing it?
[02:21] <bimberi> !kde
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Kubuntu has done it for you
[02:21] <gnomefreak> crogue5: its not an issue
[02:21] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[02:21] <ImWolf> who can at least read what is happening to me
[02:21] <LjL> technel_: oh by the way, i didn't notice before, but you're missing a *
[02:21] <gregg__> crogue5: it isn't a problem at all
[02:22] <crogue5> Jack_Sparrow, i dont want to re-install
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> then follow the bot
[02:22] <crogue5> ok thanks, it's kubuntu-desktop right?
[02:22] <LjL> technel_: no you're not
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> kde desktop
[02:22] <cpk2> technel_: do you have a /etc/cron.d/anacron ?
[02:22] <crogue5> thanks
[02:23] <LjL> cpk2: why should he use anacron since he just want to shutdown at a given time? :-?
[02:23] <bimberi> ImWolf: tell the channel what you've tried and what problems you're having.  Hopefully someone can help
[02:23] <technel_> cpk2, yes
[02:23] <cpk2> doesnt anacron run as rott?
[02:23] <recon0> Does anyone know of a poker game for linux? I can't find one
[02:23] <cpk2> root even
[02:23] <LjL> cpk2: it probably does, but so does cron
[02:24] <jrib> recon0: apt-cache search poker
[02:24] <LjL> recon0: or even apt-cache show sillypoker, which is possibly the only one that's not really video-poker
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> recon0:  there is one... try Kpoker?
[02:25] <jjohn> Anyone can help me with wireless
[02:25] <jjohn> Ca any one hell
[02:25] <ForeClosure> so .. if anytime i wanna compile / install any software
[02:25] <jjohn> p n
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Not if it is broadcom
[02:25] <ForeClosure> i just use *sudo* rite ?
[02:26] <gregg__> ForeClosure: usually, you only need it for the "make install" step after compiling the software
[02:26] <LjL> ForeClosure: hm? well no, sudo doesn't have anything to do with compiling, except you do need it to install stuff outside of your home directory. but sudo itself just gives you root (administrator) privileges
[02:26] <recon0> Ok.
[02:26] <ForeClosure> ok
[02:27] <jjohn> It is Broadcom Air force one
[02:27] <technel_> LjL, One more time. 27 18 * * * root  shutdown -r now in /etc/crontab should restart the system at 7:28 PM every day, right?
[02:27] <motorsep> hello
[02:28] <motorsep> I am new to Linux world and I feel like I am ready to install it on my PC :)
[02:28] <LjL> technel_: no, it'll restart it at 6:27pm. but besides that, yeah, i think it should
[02:28] <XiXaQ> motorsep, congratulations :)
[02:28] <gregg__> technel_: 6:28 pm. but why do you need to reboot every day?
[02:28] <motorsep> XiXaQ, thanks :)
[02:28] <ucordes> i can't receive dcc sends with my xchat
[02:28] <LjL> technel_: but make sure you restart cron (kill -1 `pidof cron`) to make it apply
[02:28] <ucordes> anybody knows something?
[02:28] <XiXaQ> motorsep, how long have you been involved?
[02:28] <motorsep> XiXaQ, I am choosing between Ubuntu, Kubuntu and SUSE..
[02:28] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[02:28] <motorsep> XiXaQ, involved where?
[02:29] <_JECKEL_> why is Xchat so different and crappy now?
[02:29] <technel_> LjL, gregg__, No, it is 0-23 for the hour and 0-59 for the minute
[02:29] <gnomefreak> _JECKEL_: are you using xchat or xchat-gnome?
[02:29] <LjL> technel_: yeah, and hour 18 is 6pm
[02:29] <AlexHess> is there any lightweight dnsd that uses resolve.conf and hosts for looking up names?
[02:29] <_JECKEL_> ah..
[02:29] <_JECKEL_> X-chat gnome
[02:29] <_JECKEL_> hmm
[02:29] <gnomefreak> _JECKEL_: that would be why
[02:29] <motorsep> XiXaQ, ?
[02:29] <gnomefreak> _JECKEL_: sudo apt-get install xchat
[02:29] <XiXaQ> motorsep, well, ubuntu and kubuntu is basically the same system, only using different window managers. You can, for instance, convert ubuntu to kubuntu with a few commands, and vice versa.
[02:29] <technel_> _JECKEL_, Yeah, seriously, get rid of that crap and get the regular xchat, much better
[02:29] <LjL> technel_: 0=midnight, 1=1am, ...
[02:29] <gnomefreak> _JECKEL_: it should remove xchat-gnome adn install xchat
[02:30] <_JECKEL_> I did have normal x-chat
[02:30] <ImWolf> who can at least read what is happening to me
[02:30] <XiXaQ> motorsep, have you tried the systems yet?
[02:30] <_JECKEL_> I have NO idea why my original x-chat dissapeared
[02:30] <motorsep> XiXaQ, would I have to download KDE for Ubuntu?
[02:30] <LjL> technel_: also for the minute -- minute "27" is 27, minutes *always* start from 0, not just in crontab :o)
[02:30] <gregg__> motorsep: apt-get will download it for you
[02:30] <_JECKEL_> I mean honestly..can anybody tell me why that may have happened?
[02:30] <technel_> LjL, 0-23 so on a 24-hour scale 7pm would be 19 (12+7), so 19-1=18?
[02:30] <gnomefreak> motorsep: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> _JECKEL_: Did you do an upgrade?
[02:31] <cpk2> and uninstall gnome problem
[02:31] <ImWolf>  who can at least read what is happening to me
[02:31] <motorsep> ahh.. ok. thank you guys.
[02:31] <cpk2> they can cause problems with each other, they arent very good friends
[02:31] <gregg__> motorsep: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:31] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: dapper pulled xchat-gnome
[02:31] <technel_> LjL, What am I doing wrong here?
[02:31] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: its no longer default package
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ahhh
[02:31] <_JECKEL_> yeah..but I had it after the upgrade o.O
[02:31] <LjL> technel_: uhm? yes 7pm = 19, and 6pm = 18.  5pm = 17, 4pm=16, 3pm=15, 2pm=14, 1pm=13, midday=12  --  just what in the US is called "military time"
[02:31] <XiXaQ> motorsep, yes. It's done automatically though. If you're in Ubuntu, you can type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and all the software will be downloaded and installed automatically either from the cd/dvd or from the net.
[02:31] <gnomefreak> i wanna say it was around flight 4 that it was pulled
[02:31] <ucordes> how can i configure my firefox browser to take irc links?
[02:32] <technel_> LjL, Yeah, I live in the US
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> How do you ninstall gnome from Kubuntu after installing KDE
[02:32] <motorsep> XiXaQ, I have XP installed under NTFS and prior it's installation, I made another partition for Linux (20 Gb)
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Uninstall
[02:32] <gnomefreak> uninstall?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:32] <Frem> I have an 800mb folder filled with files with corrupted file-names in my wastebasket. And it's owned by root. How do I delete it?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get remove libgtk
[02:32] <LjL> technel_: your computer says it's 19:32 where you live, right now
[02:32] <technel_> LjL, Military time it is 19:32:19, so if everything in unix starts with 0 instead of 1, you subtract one, so it is 18:31:18, right?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> maybe a --purge too
[02:32] <skavenge> is there an apt-get command to install the latest intel 686 kernerl and headers?
[02:32] <XiXaQ> motorsep, did you know that you can boot Ubuntu directly from the cdrom?
[02:32] <cpk2> Frem: rm -rf?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: warning that will remove xfce also if installed
[02:33] <LjL> technel_: no. military time *itself* start with zero, and it is the *same* as the crontab time
[02:33] <motorsep> XiXaQ, Yeah. But I would rather have it on HDD :)
[02:33] <Frem> cpk2, I can't find my wastebasket folder
[02:33] <LjL> technel_: 0 is midnight in military time and/or crontab, 12 is midday
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> do I need to uninstal gnome to add kde
[02:33] <technel_> LjL, Ohh
[02:33] <gnomefreak> skavenge: what does uname -r say?
[02:33] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: no
[02:33] <XiXaQ> motorsep, ok then. :) Just so you know it isn't nessasary.
[02:33] <technel_> LjL, Wow...
[02:33] <motorsep> XiXaQ, so I have XP on one partition and 20Gb free partition for Linux. Can Ubuntu instalation damage my XP partition?
[02:33] <test> hiya again
[02:33] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: you choose from login screen
[02:33] <Frem> cpk2, It's on the desktop, but I can't find it in a terminal.
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> HOw do I start up in KDE and not GNome?
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Cool thanks
[02:33] <LjL> technel_: and i don't see why "32" should become "31"... do hours start at minute number "1" on your clock? they start at "0" on mine :o)
[02:33] <bimberi> nope
[02:34] <gregg__> motorsep: it won't if you install it correctly
[02:34] <redcard> God, I love how far linux has come in three years
[02:34] <gnomefreak> 3 years?
[02:34] <skavenge> gnomefreak: 2.6.15-26-386
[02:34] <redcard> gnomefreak: Yep.
[02:34] <jjohn> imwolf did you get that
[02:34] <motorsep> gregg__, o_O that is what I am affraid of :) I don't want to loose my data
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> redcard, aint it amazing
[02:34] <ImWolf> what?
[02:34] <redcard> I've not put linux on a desktop since I got my mac.  A little over two years ago
[02:35] <ImWolf> the prv?
[02:35] <gnomefreak> skavenge: latest kernel is 2.6.15-26-686 would be the one you want yopu can get it in synaptic
[02:35] <gregg__> motorsep: you "just" have to choose the right option while partitioning
[02:35] <redcard> I never thought I'd love the fact that I didn't have to use the console once during install
[02:35] <mumbles> im going to try and go to sleep
[02:35] <mumbles> nn all
[02:35] <XiXaQ> motorsep, well, in a way. If WinXP is on disk1 and Ubuntu is installed on disk2, then Ubuntu will overwrite the bootsector of disk1. However, Ubuntu will let create a new menu for you, so you can choose to boot WinXP or Ubuntu when you turn on your machine.
[02:35] <skavenge> gnomefreak: thank you what about headers?
[02:35] <gregg__> motorsep: it's best if you have some free, unpartitioned space on the hd prior to installation
[02:35] <gnomefreak> redcard: its been longer than 3 years since gui frontends hit
[02:35] <bla|patrick> hi
[02:35] <bla|patrick> good morning
[02:36] <ImWolf> jjohn im VERY noob in linux
[02:36] <jjohn> Imwolf there is a pppconfig in terminal follow that and then to start your session just "sudo pon"
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> good evening
[02:36] <gnomefreak> skavenge: same place
[02:36] <bla|patrick> !mozilla-mplayer 3.2*
[02:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about mozilla-mplayer 3.2* - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:36] <test> bla|patrick: hiya
[02:36] <ImWolf> jjohn look at priv
[02:36] <gnomefreak> !headers
[02:36] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[02:36] <skavenge> nice okay
[02:36] <gnomefreak> !mplayer > bla|patrick
[02:36] <XiXaQ> motorsep, however, if you wanted to overwrite it again, to let Windows have back the bootsector, you can simply run fdisk /mbr from ms-dos, if you have a win98 boot cd for instance.
[02:36] <bla|patrick> gnomefreak: no... i am looking for built 3.21 and higher
[02:36] <bla|patrick> cant find any packages
[02:36] <motorsep> gregg__, yeah, that's what I have.. E: drive for 20Gb - that's how it's showing up in Xp now..
[02:37] <bla|patrick> hi test :)
[02:37] <motorsep> XiXaQ, ic..
[02:37] <gnomefreak> bla|patrick: ubuntu doesnt have it please read the page on compiling mplayer they might list a link for you
[02:37] <bla|patrick> !mplayer
[02:37] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Try " sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts " ( multiverse must be enabled see !repos ).
[02:37] <jjohn> imwolf  OK go to private
[02:37] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[02:37] <ImWolf> jjohn ok
[02:37] <gregg__> motorsep: I'd delete this partition and start the installation. there will be an option "use free space", choose it and everything should work out without losing data
[02:38] <bla|patrick> that wiki entry is empty
[02:38] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[02:38] <test> silly question: if i change just an icon for a device it will not mess up the device working right?
[02:38] <bla|patrick> !codecs
[02:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:38] <ImWolf> jjohn im there
[02:38] <XiXaQ> motorsep, remember though. I don't know what you're used to, but when you have the Ubuntu CD, you don't have to be OSless. :) You can always boot Ubuntu Live, connect to the internet and seek help if you need it. Comforting, isn't it? :)
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> motorsep: it is best to leave it as unpartitioned space, let the install program set up the swap partition and the Ubuntu partition, just tell it to use ann unallocated space
[02:38] <bla|patrick> in that wiki is not even an entry for mplayer and compiling
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> all
[02:38] <jjohn> Imwolf no pvt msg are here did you register
[02:39] <ImWolf> jjohnno
[02:39] <ImWolf> jjohn no
[02:39] <motorsep> XiXaQ, last time I attempted to install Kubuntu (previous release), installation would freeze on me :/ DVD image was downloaded from the Net. So I didn't even get to choose where I am going to install it.. Neither I was able to load LiveCD (again I downloaded it and burnt it through Nero) :/
[02:39] <technel> LjL, It works :D Thanks!
[02:39] <bla|patrick> and there is a minor problem... i have absolutly no idea how to compile :|
[02:40] <jjohn> Imwolf I do not tink you can pm till you register
[02:40] <gnomefreak> bla|patrick: go to mplayer.com (or whatever their site is) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[02:40] <Infern0o> lmwolf: you have to register in order to be able to reply ;)
[02:40] <ImWolf> jjohn can u give ur msn by priv?
[02:40] <ImWolf> Infern0o tx
[02:40] <Infern0o> lmwolf: type: /msg nickServ register and /msg nickServ help
[02:40] <gregg__> bla|patrick: you don't need to compile anything to get mplayer
[02:41] <ImWolf> ok
[02:41] <redcard> Anybody notice that vnc is really slow in Dapper?
[02:41] <Eclipse_GSX> yea
[02:41] <jjohn> inferno can you please help imwolf to deal with this??
[02:41] <Eclipse_GSX> i hate that shit
[02:41] <Infern0o> sure jjohn, np
[02:41] <bla|patrick> gregg__: i need the mplayer plugin version 3.21 to enable streams in opera
[02:41] <XiXaQ> motorsep, now, you have an easier way to check the medium before you start installation. I'd go about it this way: burn the Ubuntu CD. Reboot. Check the medium in the menu (I think it's the last item in the list, but you'll find it). If it's ok, boot into live. You'll install directly from the running desktop system.
[02:41] <gregg__> bla|patrick: oh, ok
[02:41] <ImWolf> ready
[02:41] <redcard> Though.. setting up mt-daapd for itunes sharing to my mac laptop was sweet
[02:42] <bla|patrick> in the repos is 3.17.whatever
[02:42] <Infern0o> lmwolf, ok, you identified yourself?
[02:43] <ImWolf> yes
[02:43] <interferon> i'd like a custom application to start whenever my webserver starts.  where can i find information on writing simple initscripts?
[02:43] <motorsep> XiXaQ, ok. thanks. I'll try.
[02:43] <motorsep> XiXaQ, is Ubuntu better than SUSE?
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[02:43] <Infern0o> lmwolf, ok then let's continue in pm :)
[02:43] <XiXaQ> motorsep, besides, then, you already know that you have a working desktop system, which makes it alot easier to fix problems. You could even ask someone to install the system _for_ you, using remote desktop :)
[02:43] <bla|patrick> its different
[02:43] <bla|patrick> but better?
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> yes better
[02:44] <redcard> I think it's better because it is free.
[02:44] <redcard> In all senses
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> interferon: what type of custom app/script
[02:44] <interferon> Jack_Sparrow, a lisp application.  i just need it to be started automatically with my web server
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> We are down to 750 users in here, quick go wake your neighbors
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:45] <DayDreame> hi, i'd like to install ubuntu on a reiserfs partition, it's important NOT TO LOSE the data on the existing partition
[02:45] <test> Jack_Sparrow: too far to walk
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Same here
[02:45] <Frem> DayDreame, Then back up the data on the other partition.
[02:45] <mshiltonj> on Dapper, flash sound was flaky, but working -- at least recently. Suddenly (after routine updates?) flash sound stopped working entirely. I've searched and searched. Done aoss, done esddsp, etc.  Has anyone else reported flash sound on dapper suddenly not working when it previously was??
[02:45] <Infern0o> !modem
[02:45] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[02:45] <DayDreame> Frem, impossible, too large don't have that much space
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> DayDreame: IF you have a backup then not to worry ever.  No backup.. it is only a matter of time before it or any system will crash
[02:45] <XiXaQ> motorsep, very hard to say. Actually, it's very easy for me to say.. Yes, it is. However, most GNU/Linux distributions, or distros, use the same software components. Very much a matter of taste. But I'd say Ubuntu is better.
[02:46] <Infern0o> !drivers
[02:46] <bla|patrick> i dont get that compiling
[02:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about drivers - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:46] <bla|patrick> sorry
[02:46] <Infern0o> !driver
[02:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about driver - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:46] <bla|patrick> could someone help me
[02:46] <DayDreame> what options must i follow in the install menu
[02:46] <Frem> DayDreame, It's not impossible. Go buy a couple USB hard disks if your data is that important.
[02:46] <XiXaQ> motorsep, where are you from?
[02:46] <gregg__> flash sucks anyway. macromedia's support is just BAD. they don't even support windows 64-bit - and won't for a longer time
[02:46] <Infern0o> !modem > ImWolf
[02:46] <test> adobe......<snicker>
[02:47] <gregg__> and no flash8 for linux
[02:47] <DayDreame> i've tried manually partitionnh HD, and i don't change anything in the partitioning, and then i make sure "format partition" sin't selected
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> There is NO excuse for not having a backup.. NONE... Just because you have too much stuff does not mean you dont need to protect it.
[02:47] <gregg__> test: ah whatever. it has gotten even worse with adobe IMHO :)
[02:47] <DayDreame> will that guarantee that it won't mess with the partitioning table?
[02:47] <gregg__> I hope gnash will turn out to be usable
[02:48] <test> gregg__: yes it has. that's why i snickered
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> DayDreame: Never a guarantee when resizing partitions...
[02:48] <DayDreame> no resising
[02:48] <DayDreame> i just want to install ubuntu on a reiserfs partition, without the contents being destroyed
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> If you have unallocated space then that is all you need, the installer will use all unallocated space to create your swap and linux partition..
[02:49] <gregg__> DayDreame: at least with breezys partitioner it was possible, I don't know about dapper
[02:49] <gemidjy_> how do I make a certain folder a repository for apt-get ?
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> DayDreame: DO you already have a reiserfs partition with data on it that you dont want to lose?
[02:50] <Infern0o> !apt-get
[02:50] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:50] <crogue5> a friend resized his ntfs 2 nights ago and installed dapper with out any problems
[02:50] <teimu> how do i give a file executable status?
[02:50] <crogue5> chmod +x
[02:50] <DayDreame> Jack_Sparrow yup
[02:50] <LjL> gemidjy_: it's not quite that simple, repositories are not simply random folders... but there are tools that can help you set them up
[02:50] <teimu> thats right...chmod. couldnt think of it
[02:51] <crogue5> :)
[02:51] <gemidjy_> LjL: any howto ?
[02:51] <philuk86> chmod 755 file
[02:51] <DayDreame> as well as a swapt and boot partitions that i pretend to share with gentoo
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> DayDreame: I would suggest against trying that
[02:51] <DayDreame> share/replace
[02:51] <GarretS> Anyone here willing to help me with wine?
[02:51] <AstroKing> I've got Ubuntu installed in Virtual PC 2004.  Sound is now working, as is internet.  However, it won't let me install any updates.  It fails to find any of the repositories.  Anyone know of a fix?
[02:51] <DayDreame> than you wouldn't suggest it heh
[02:51] <motorsep> XiXaQ, Texas
[02:51] <motorsep> XiXaQ, why?
[02:51] <Aesop> Woops... shoulda backed up my Xorg.conf, now I can't remember how I had dual monitors setup
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Not if it was my data on that drive.. New drives are way to cheap to risk it
[02:52] <XiXaQ> motorsep, perhaps we have a Local Community there. You might want to hook up with them.
[02:52] <DayDreame> Jack_Sparrow how's that? i backed up the gentoo dirs in a separate directory shouldn't interfeer
[02:52] <AstroKing> Anyone know how to get updates working in VPC?
[02:52] <Aesop> ER, crud. What command-line editor is included by default on Ubuntu?
[02:52] <XiXaQ> gemidjy_, check /etc/apt/sources.list you can add sites there.
[02:52] <Aesop> Emacs isn;t. >_<
[02:52] <DayDreame> if i get it working i won't be booting gentoo anymore
[02:52] <skavenge> Aesop: nano
[02:52] <motorsep> XiXaQ, how can I find out where is it (community)?
[02:52] <Aesop> Thanks
[02:52] <gemidjy_> XiXaQ: naah, I dont ask that
[02:52] <gregg__> Aesop: ed
[02:53] <LjL> gemidjy_: i dunno. but try "apt-cache search apt repository" or "apt-cache search deb repository" or "apt-cache show reprepro" for some software
[02:53] <gemidjy_> LjL: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto
[02:53] <GarretS> AstroKing: No one is listening to either of us
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> DayDreame: Feel free to go for it..  You know my opinion.  The fact that you are flying with no backup, and multiple windows and linux installs is not for the timid or noob..
[02:53] <bla|patrick> that tutorial says i should download plugins
[02:53] <bla|patrick> but what do i have to do with them
[02:53] <AstroKing> yeah i know, Garret
[02:53] <AstroKing> just figured i'd try here before i post on the forums
[02:54] <GarretS> Can someone listen to AstroKing??? He has a very important question....  I think!
[02:54] <gregg__> Aesop: remember, ed is teh standard unix text editor! (-:
[02:54] <DayDreame> Jack_Sparrow basically i want to know that the ubuntu installer won't mess with my partitions, let alone format them, unless i ask for it to
[02:54] <LjL> gemidjy_: cool. that article also reminded me of apt-move, which isn't found with the searches i suggested, but which still is probably among the most useful candidates for software you can try
[02:54] <AstroKing> I'm having trouble installing updates in 6.06 in VPC 2004.  Anyone know how to get it working?  Internet works fine, but updates don't.
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> GarretS: Why do people install a realy good OS then trash it trying to run emulators and their old programs that will never work as well emulated as they do in their native environment
[02:55] <NineTeen67Comet>  I know I need to change something to allow my access to my server to work on cups (normally https://localhost:631 ) .. I need to access my server through my network but https://<IP_ADDRESS>:631 isn't working .. help? (The server is running Ubuntu-Server 6.06) ..
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> DayDreame: it does nothing you dont ask it to do
[02:55] <test> what is vpc?
[02:55] <Infern0o> gregg__: i love nano too though :)
[02:55] <GarretS> Virtual PC
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> DayDreame: setup a 10 gig partition and install to that..
[02:56] <gregg__> Infern0o: too much bloat!
[02:56] <GarretS> Jack_Sparrow: I don't want to use windoze though, so I am using wine
[02:56] <Infern0o> gregg__: bloat?
[02:56] <test> hmmm is that a milolahdie thingy? ya know those other guys with the active x and stuff?
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> SAME DIFFERENCE
[02:56] <Infern0o> gregg__: garbage? :)
[02:56] <gregg__> Infern0o: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bloat
[02:56] <Infern0o> gregg__: thx :)
[02:56] <DayDreame> Jack_Sparrow i got scared because i didn't change anything and it said it would proceed to write the partition table, which i don't want altered. i hope it won't change anything if i haven't asked it to, i just specified the swap and root partitions
[02:56] <teimu> what do i do to open .bin files?
[02:56] <jjohn> Any body help with Broadcom
[02:56] <ardchoille> I figured out how to get the Run Dialog to popup via a command/menu item:  gnome-panel-control --run-dialog
[02:57] <test> jjohn: What kind of broadcom?
[02:57] <AstroKing> I'm assuming nobody here uses Virtual PC 2004 or has any experience fixing updates that won't work?
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> DayDreame: Third and last time... I do NOT recommend it..
[02:57] <Infern0o> gregg__: ic, a good example would be azureus? :)
[02:57] <ankan> guys, I just got an Ipod Nano and I want to use it on dapper...is rhythmbox a good equivalent of ITunes....if it is r there any issues I need to be aware of?
[02:57] <bla|patrick> could someone explain me how to add that site to my repos
[02:58] <bla|patrick> i may find there a new deb with taht mplayer plugin
[02:58] <gregg__> Infern0o: yes, or openoffice
[02:58] <XiXaQ> motorsep, there is a Ubuntu community in Austin, texas..
[02:58] <bimberi> !ipod
[02:58] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[02:58] <bla|patrick> http://www.artfiles.org
[02:58] <LjL> teimu: in the dir where the file resides, change their mode to executable (chmod +x filename), and "./filename"
[02:58] <gregg__> Infern0o: I wasn't really serious, calling nano bloatware, though :)
[02:58] <teimu> thanks LjL
[02:58] <LjL> teimu: also, if that's a program you're trying to install, make very sure there is not a ready-made Ubuntu package instead of that .bin
[02:58] <motorsep> XiXaQ, nice :) is there a web address of it?
[02:58] <XiXaQ> motorsep, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[02:58] <Infern0o> gregg__: you can't call it fatware :PPP
[02:59] <jjohn> test I just installed broadcom cutter 43xx and it nearly works iwconfig is giving me an invalid access point message
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Someone talking about me
[02:59] <teimu> there a google earth package?
[02:59] <gregg__> DayDreame: I wouldn't do something like that without backups
[02:59] <XiXaQ> motorsep, actually, there are several in Texas...
[02:59] <AstroKing> Guess I'll try somewhere else that can help, thanks anyway.
[02:59] <test> jjohn: why noyty use ndiswrapper? It'll take 5 minutes if that.
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> google earth bin works fine in Ubuntu here
[02:59] <motorsep> XiXaQ, ok. got it . thanks a bunch!
[02:59] <gregg__> hard drives are so damn cheap these days, DAMN cheap! :-)
[03:00] <Infern0o> hell yeah :)
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> 200 gig was $50 after rebate
[03:00] <LjL> teimu: no. at least i don't think one has been made available
[03:00] <teimu> ok...then im good to go
[03:00] <jjohn> test do I need to unistall or just blunder on over top NOOB
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> teimu:  google earth bin works fine in Ubuntu here
[03:00] <XiXaQ> motorsep, you're welcome. :)
[03:00] <test> jjohn: NOOB?
[03:00] <teimu> Jack_Sparrow, likewise
[03:01] <redcard> It'd be pretty cool if Google Earth worked on PPC Linux
[03:01] <jjohn> new user not too familiar with terminal as yet done a few apt things
[03:01] <Neg127> whas the initial release of the desktop cd a live cd, o just the dvd version?
[03:01] <Aesop> Anyone know how to configure dual monitors under Ubuntu?
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> redcard: DOnt they have a mac version?
[03:01] <Aesop> Can't seem to find the topic on the forums, I know it's there somewhere
[03:02] <Infern0o> !monitor
[03:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about monitor - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:02] <Infern0o> too bad :)
[03:02] <Aesop> Hah, found it
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> gotta run, the wife just got home
[03:02] <Aesop> It was on the Gentoo Wiki, no wonder I couldnt find it =D
[03:02] <test> Oh. I set up my broadcom with ndis wrapper in 5 minutes. it works like a dream.
[03:03] <test> mines a 1470 in a dell 1300
[03:03] <jjohn> test did you follow a howto? if so where is it?
[03:03] <Infern0o> !broadcom
[03:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:03] <Infern0o> ;)
[03:04] <Infern0o> !ndiswrapper
[03:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:04] <test> jjohn: I found a message post I'll post you the link if you like.
[03:05] <gregg__> test: can you point me to a working driver? the one I took straight from the windows installation didn't work (ubuntu reported 'invalid driver'). strangely, exactly the same windows driver works with freebsd ndis
[03:05] <gregg__> s/ubuntu/ndiswrapper/
[03:05] <recon0> I have a .patch file I'm supposed to apply to xscreensaver. How can I apply it?
.It was posted on the board just before your reply thank you
[03:06] <distanceisdeath> Hello everyone
[03:06] <Infern0o> !apt
[03:06] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:07] <distanceisdeath> my computer has been off for several days and when ubuntu starts up it cannot get past the "Mounting root file system"
[03:07] <digitalslave> why is it that ubuntu cannot open games in full screen?
[03:07] <digitalslave> the last kernel update did until i updated yet again yesterday
[03:07] <test> jjohn: I got my drivers from dell directly and they work great
[03:07] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. I'm trying to get samba up and running in a Ubuntu-server (and #ubuntu-server is dead) .. although samba seems to start fine .. smbclient -L localhost -U% leads to smbclient not found .. help? (I'm ultimately wanting printer sharing)
[03:07] <assssss> omfg
[03:08] <assssss> i am so cool
[03:08] <digitalslave> examples of games that do not work in full screen : quake 3 - enemy territory - warzone 2000
[03:09] <digitalslave> with nvidia 5600 256 and nvidia drivers
[03:09] <Bon_ez> hey all, I just removed a 85gb fat32 partition and then reformatted it as ext3, i have mounted it but I can not write to it, only read. any ideas?
[03:09] <jjohn> test I got my machine from acer
[03:09] <Aesop> What's the GLX gears command?
[03:10] <Aesop> glx-gears -fps?
[03:10] <NineTeen67Comet> Aesop: glxgears
[03:10] <test> oh then you can probably get working drivers from the acer webpage?
[03:10] <digitalslave> -info
[03:10] <NineTeen67Comet> oops .. I don't know why the fpm isn't showing up .. usually it does.
[03:10] <distanceisdeath> My ubuntu cannot get past startup. what should i do?
[03:10] <Bon_ez> hey all, I just removed a 85gb fat32 partition and then reformatted it as ext3, i have mounted it but I can not write to it, only read. any ideas?
[03:10] <Infern0o> Bon_ez are you sure you made it ext3? since that sounds a lot like you formatted it to ntfs ;)
[03:11] <Infern0o> !spam
[03:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about spam - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:11] <Bon_ez> Infern0o: it's def ext3. it even has a lost+found folder
[03:11] <digitalslave> just use -info switch to get fps in term
[03:11] <Aesop> NineTeen67Comet; Know what the command is that reports FPS?
[03:11] <Aesop> Right
[03:11] <gregg__> Bon_ez: you have to adjust the permissions to be able to write to it as a user
[03:11] <Bon_ez> gregg__: how do I do this?
[03:11] <Infern0o> Bon_ez: have you checked the size of your new drive, and how much space you have left?
[03:11] <gregg__> Bon_ez: chown/chmod
[03:12] <Bon_ez> Infern0o: yes it has 80gb free.
[03:12] <NineTeen67Comet> Aesop: I dunno .. I'm dumbfounded on this one ..
[03:12] <Infern0o> Bon_ez: it seems like gregg will be able to aid you better then i ;)
[03:12] <Bon_ez> gregg__: i have done "sudo chown myuser.mygroup /mountpoint" and also "sudo chmod 777 /mountpoint"
[03:12] <gregg__> Bon_ez: try sudo chown <username> /dir/to/it
[03:12] <jjohn> test the last time I went ot Acer I got the run around I will read the howto that inferferno just posted loks like I can blacklist my bcm drivers and ndiswrapper them
[03:12] <Aesop> NineTeen67Comet; NP
[03:12] <Bon_ez> and i still can not write to it
[03:12] <ckknight> Has anybody here gotten fglrx to work with an ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M?
[03:12] <digitalslave> are you on live cd Bon_ez ?
[03:13] <test> jjohn: that is what i did. the post i read was more concise but it should work fine.
[03:13] <Bon_ez> digitalslave: nope, normal install
[03:13] <digitalslave> hrm
[03:13] <gregg__> Bon_ez: sounds strange
[03:13] <NineTeen67Comet> Bon_ez: try sudo chown -R yourname:yourgroup directory ...
[03:13] <Bon_ez> NineTeen67Comet: ok 2 secs
[03:13] <digitalslave> ne -R
[03:13] <gregg__> Bon_ez: chmod 777 would even allow anyone to do anything!
[03:13] <digitalslave> i mean no -R capital
[03:13] <jjohn> Test  OK then I will give it a try then report any probs here tommorrow if needed
[03:14] <Bon_ez> gregg__: yeah nobody else uses my machine, it's just a home desktop pc with 1 user account :)
[03:14] <test> jjohn: okay if i can help i will certainly try. good luck
[03:14] <digitalslave> so no one else with full screen problems?
[03:14] <skavenge> !frostwire
[03:14] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:14] <Bon_ez> NineTeen67Comet: thanks for your help, that fixed it :)
[03:15] <NineTeen67Comet> Cool .. I was bout to say if that didn't work, then we could play with your fstab ..
[03:15] <digitalslave> anyone know of a way to revert to the older kernel and where to get it
[03:15] <digitalslave> before yesterdays update
[03:15] <gregg__> Bon_ez: the partition wasn't empty? :)
[03:15] <jjohn> Bye all I am going to play with my ndiswrapper!!!
[03:15] <Fjodor> digitalslave: The old kernel should still be available as a boot option
[03:16] <Bon_ez> gregg__: yeah it was empty but it had a lost+found folder on it
[03:16] <NineTeen67Comet> digitalslave: you "should" be able to install it via synaptic and make sure it's correctly selected in /boot/grub/menu.lst after the install ..
[03:16] <test> Infern0o: thanks. it dont mean much to me though. i know who i am. :)
[03:16] <Fjodor> digitalslave: And you could remove the new one via synaptic and remove completely option
[03:16] <digitalslave> Fjodor i thought so but didnt know if it just replaced the version cause i didnt have to upgrade my drivers with that kernel update
[03:17] <digitalslave> Fjodor sounds like it would break crap :)
[03:17] <gregg__> Bon_ez: or, maybe you adjusted the permissions before mounting the new fs?
[03:17] <Fjodor> digitalslave: No, actually the system keeps track of all kernels installed, and removing one doesn't break anything
[03:17] <digitalslave> bigger problem is why does ubuntu not allow fullscreen mode?
[03:17] <gregg__> Bon_ez: I'd really like to sort out what the culprit was in this case
[03:17] <Bon_ez> gregg__: nah i created a new mountpoint and called it /d but i just didn't set the permissions from the looks of things
[03:18] <Bon_ez> gregg__: the -R fixed it
[03:18] <XiXaQ> Ubuntu Translation teams have a channel?
[03:18] <redcard> Anyone know of a video jukebox program?
[03:18] <digitalslave> only thing thats dfferent from boot was kernel image
[03:18] <Fjodor> digitalslave: but the old one was still there as an option, right?
[03:19] <Bon_ez> gregg__: now to copy the ~70gig of data back across from the samba share on another pc... :/
[03:19] <digitalslave> gonna check in a sec
[03:19] <cius> finally, I have a WM with a borderless option
[03:19] <digitalslave> checking some things in synaptic first
[03:19] <assssss> Hi, i need help to find VLC media player but I can't find it in Synaptic?
[03:19] <digitalslave> all other kernels would not allow the full screen either - was totally exstatic when it worked with that one
[03:19] <Infern0o> assssss: apt-get install vlc ;)
[03:20] <cius> assssss, not sure, but you might need the universe repos...
[03:20] <digitalslave> you dont have all the repositories assssss
[03:20] <Fjodor> digitalslave: If you remove the new one, you will be prompted to upgrade, though. You should just uncheck the kernel on future upgrades, until you want it upgraded
[03:20] <Infern0o> true
[03:20] <bimberi> assssss: have a look under Applications -> Add/Remove... - make sure 'Show unsupported applications' is checkec
[03:20] <digitalslave> true that Fjodor
[03:20] <bimberi> *checked
[03:20] <digitalslave> just miffs me cause ive never had this problem with any distro ive ran
[03:21] <Fjodor> digitalslave: What is this fullscreen you talk about?
[03:21] <Infern0o> :o
[03:21] <digitalslave> quake 3 - enemy territory - warzone 2000 will not open in fullscreen when told to
[03:21] <Infern0o> !fullscreen
[03:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about fullscreen - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:22] <Fjodor> digitalslave: Ok. Thought something completely different
[03:22] <Infern0o> meh
[03:22] <digitalslave> it did finally for one kernel out of like 8 then i upgrade kernel again and it doesnt work fullscreen anymore
[03:22] <test> i think there is a problem somewhere in the current update personally
[03:23] <Fjodor> digitalslave: You _could_ just make yourself boot the working one everytime. There is probably something that can be done with menu.lst and update-grub, but I wouldn't know. Read the comments in it
[03:23] <echobinary> which would you prefer: P3 500MHz, or a Celeron 600MHz
[03:23] <Se7h> http://suindara.ubuntupt.org/ is up with new url :)
[03:23] <Infern0o> P3!!!
[03:23] <digitalslave> ok gonna reboot and see if its still in the boot list - yeah ive messed with that stuff before but would like to stay current and solve the actual problem
[03:23] <digitalslave> brb
[03:24] <echobinary> even though the P3 has a slower clock speed?
[03:24] <Infern0o> jah
[03:24] <echobinary> why?
[03:25] <Infern0o> google: pentium vs celeron
[03:25] <Infern0o> :-)
[03:25] <echobinary> ok
[03:25] <vinboy> what is the difference between main restricted universe multiverse?
[03:26] <Fjodor> vinboy: It's levels of association with the core distro. Restricted is stuff they can't include by default, universe is sort of experimental, and multiverse even more so
[03:27] <bimberi> !components
[03:27] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:27] <Bentley333> anyone around that can help me with a software raid on 6.06?
[03:27] <vdepizzol> how I boot ubuntu from NTLDR?
[03:27] <bimberi> vinboy: that first link from ubotu (above) explains things
[03:28] <vinboy> thanks
[03:29] <digitalslave> neither 25 or 26 will go fullscreen anymore - totally pissed
[03:31] <Saxywolf> In Windows, I would simply run the WAMP server, and then it would be "on". Is there an easy way to setup a similar install on a standard Ubuntu install?
[03:32] <vdepizzol> how I boot ubuntu from NTLDR?
[03:32] <hawkaloogie> Saxywolf, xampp iirc
[03:32] <MTecknology> What should I use to open a .db file?
[03:32] <digitalslave> why would you vdepizzol ?
[03:32] <digitalslave> depends on what you want to do with it MTecknology
[03:32] <Saxywolf> thx hawkaloogie
[03:33] <MTecknology> I'm using it for a factoid databse
[03:33] <Vann> how can I view the wireless connections active near me?
[03:33] <XiXaQ> hmm, I'm trying to sign the code of conduct. I don't have a secret gpg key, however. How do I make one?
[03:33] <Vann> I can't find the tool to do it..
[03:33] <digitalslave> kismet Vann
[03:33] <vdepizzol> digitalslave, I can't change the boot loader in this computer. Or I use NTLDR or I boot from floppy disk
[03:33] <nalioth> does anyone remember way back when the us archives were wonky, how to reset the md5sums that apt-get uses?
[03:33] <Infern0o> Vann: gnome-network-manager
[03:33] <assssss> i have installed VLC, now how do i run it?
[03:33] <Fjodor> Vann: iwlist <interface> scan
[03:33] <digitalslave> dont know where to put it vdepizzol ?
[03:34] <XiXaQ> assssss, from the Programs menu...
[03:34] <Vann> Infern0o, I don't have that
[03:34] <bimberi> assssss: Applications -> Sound & Video -> VLC  ??
[03:34] <Infern0o> Vann: use Fjodor's way then
[03:34] <Fjodor> G'night all
[03:34] <XiXaQ> night Fjodor :)
[03:35] <Vann> Infern0o, err... how do i figure out which device is the wireless card
[03:35] <Vann> Infern0o, there was a tool i had up earlier that just showed the active ones and let me choose one, but I can't find it
[03:35] <Infern0o> Vann: That's gnome-network-manager
[03:35] <MTecknology> digitalslave, I'm using it for a factoid databse
[03:35] <Woosta> Anyone know why aclocal isn't in the autoconf package?
[03:36] <vdepizzol> digitalslave, I tried using dd, creating a .img file and putting in boot.ini, but it don't worked
[03:36] <Vann> Infern0o, then why don't I have that command..
[03:36] <Woosta> (or more importantly, where it IS?)
[03:36] <Infern0o> Vann: ah, you want a command?
[03:36] <MTecknology> digitalslave, nvm
[03:36] <digitalslave> heh
[03:36] <Infern0o> Vann: gnome network manager is the program :)
[03:36] <Bentley333> ANyone familiar with mdadm and RAID1?
[03:37] <Infern0o> Vann: do you have a cable connection on you linux distro atm?
[03:37] <Vann> Infern0o, no, this is my desktop, I'm trying to get my lappy on the wireless
[03:38] <Vann> Infern0o, ah.. i found the device, eth1
[03:38] <Infern0o> Vann: hmm the easyest way is to cable connect your laptop first to download that program
[03:38] <dadgumit> hi all
[03:38] <Infern0o> Vann: otherwise use this
[03:38] <Infern0o> !wireless
[03:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:38] <ic56> nalioth: md5sum <pathanem> >/var/lib/<package name>/<filename>
[03:39] <Dimensions> hie ... i have a brand new hdd nevr been used ... i attached it via usb and its not mounting .. when i attach another old hdd then it detects it any idea why is new one not mounting ?
[03:39] <Infern0o> Vann: but i'm telling you, cable connecting and downloading that network manager will save you from a lot of trouble ;)
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> I just did the apt-get kubuntu-desktop but this isnt KDE it is still gnome, how do I switch?
[03:40] <zoidberg> doesn anyone know how to install the deveas packages for ubuntu through the terminal perhaps?
[03:40] <ic56> nalioth: hmmm, upon investigation it looks like that only worked for a specific config file.  sorry.
[03:40] <zoidberg> sorry i mean SEVEAS not deveas
[03:40] <digitalslave> switch before logging in
[03:40] <Infern0o> Dimensions: you'll have to format it first ;)
[03:40] <dswillia74437> hey all trying to install compiz on dapper doing a sudo apt-get install compiz and it is telling me it cant find the package
[03:40] <Vann> Infern0o, i think i have it
[03:40] <Vann> Infern0o, I just have to find it..
[03:40] <digitalslave> all repositories dswillia74437 ?
[03:40] <zoidberg> can someone help me
[03:40] <ic56> Dimensions: you must partition and format hte new disk before you can mount it
[03:40] <dswillia74437> enable all reps?
[03:40] <zoidberg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18397
[03:41] <digitalslave> follow the forum for the video card specific on forum
[03:41] <vdepizzol> digitalslave, ?
[03:41] <nalioth> ic56: thanks, but this was an issue with the us archives giving out malformed md5sums for the files
[03:42] <nalioth> ic56: so i'm looking to find out where apt keeps its list of md5 data (to checksum the files)
[03:42] <Infern0o> Vann: ah you think you have the network manager?
[03:42] <Infern0o> Vann: it should be in your system tray then :)
[03:42] <Infern0o> Vann: most probably a small cable icon
[03:43] <Vann> Infern0o, there is a Networking and a Networking Tools icons
[03:43] <Dimensions> ic56:  and how i do that ... when i tried to load it with live cd ... it gave error and didn't boot
[03:43] <Vann> Infern0o, neither do what the thing I somehow pulled up before did
[03:43] <Infern0o> Vann: ah no, those are the standard ubuntu tools :)
[03:43] <david__> how do i apt-get install modphp
[03:43] <Infern0o> Vann: what did you pull off before? :)
[03:43] <srikanth> ls
[03:43] <srikanth> clear
[03:43] <david__> im not sure of what the name is that i have to use
[03:44] <Vann> Infern0o, I had a window open that had all the wireless connections I could see, and I could double click on a connection to join it
[03:44] <ic56> Dimensions: I don't know if there is a GUI way to do that yet.  Have you used the command line before?
[03:44] <Infern0o> Vann: ah, and you did it on this install?
[03:44] <Vann> Infern0o, that would be possible...
[03:44] <Vann> Infern0o, sucks.
[03:44] <Dimensions> yes ic56 but i dont know the commands in ubuntu for formating usb
[03:45] <david__> im trying to build php pages, what is the mod i need for it?
[03:45] <Infern0o> Vann: hmmm, by my knowings the standard networking tools don't provide that
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Dimensions: the ultimate boot cd might just be the answer to that..  Run live and do all sorts of stuff
[03:46] <Infern0o> Vann: the only thing you can do is terminal: iwconfig eth1
[03:46] <Infern0o> Vann: to get a list of wireless access points
[03:46] <ic56> Dimensions: hmm.  I've never done USB disks.  Hopefully someone else can help you
[03:47] <Dimensions> ic56:  got the command :P
[03:47] <Dimensions> thank you ic56
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> ic56 does your bios allow booting to usb disks
[03:48] <Vann> Infern0o, I found the ESSID, and I have the WEP password, but the networking tool is taking a while to connect
[03:48] <boingolov> vann, what type of NIC is it?