[10:29] <enyc> Hrrm, is this channel-topic not changing to  Jammy 22.04 kernel development  ?
[11:23] <enyc> http://kroah.com/log/blog/2021/02/03/helping-out-with-lts-kernel-releases/
[11:24] <enyc> ^^ Canonical to help out with 5.15 LTS , or another later release, for 22.04 ,  or do their own thing/maintenance-in-house ?
[11:31] <Jeremy31> enyc: Usually do their own thing but they do merge upstream commits


[09:50] <schopin> sbeattie: you might want to have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rustc/+bug/1964098 :)
[14:19] <sbeattie> schopin: thanks!
[15:05] <hallyn> sigh - i'm being lazy here, but is there a way for me to post an extra apparmor profile snipped for a snap (firefox, specifically)?  /etc/dnsmasq.d/ style?  That'll just get appended to the shipped policy?
[15:05] <hallyn> something like https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44174234/apparmor-profile-for-libreoffice-in-a-ubuntu-snap-package
[15:06] <hallyn> I want firefox to be allowed to run /usr/local/bin/st and /usr/bin/vim
[15:44] <hallyn> i'm on impish.  should it have a kernel immune to dirtypipez?
[15:44] <hallyn> (cuase, it doesn't :(  )
[15:45] <ebarretto> georgiag, ^
[15:45] <sdeziel> hallyn: fixed kernels are apparently going to be released in the next 24h
[15:46] <hallyn> :cringe:
[15:46] <hallyn> ok thanks
[15:54] <georgiag> hallyn: I don't think there's currently a way to have a policy on top of the current snap policy for firefox. as a workaround, you can change the snap firefox policy and reload it, but that's temporary - snap will reload the original unchanged policy after a while
[15:58] <hallyn> :(
[15:58] <jjohansen> hallyn: georgiag is right. This is one of those things that is planned for but we just haven't had time to do yet
[15:59] <hallyn> so the 'snap policy' includes 'apparmor policy'?  Where do I find that?
[15:59] <jjohansen> basically there are two things that are wip to do this
[15:59] <jjohansen> 1. being able to "inherit" from a profile
[15:59] <hallyn> will you slap me if i say you should hire someone? :)
[16:00] <jjohansen> 2. Being able to specify an overlay location
[16:00] <jjohansen> hahaha
[16:00] <hallyn> what would inherit from what?
[16:01] <hallyn> it seems like the notion of "connecting" would be useful...  which ionly mention bc i readsomewhere about snap connect or something
[16:01] <jjohansen> so you could specify a new profile, inheriting from another profile, and then add new rules to that profile
[16:01] <hallyn> ok
[16:02] <hallyn> that would be perfect
[16:02] <hallyn> but so in the meantime where woudl i find the polcy to update?  having t oupdate it after every snap refresh is better than nothing
[16:02] <hallyn> i can script that :)
[16:03] <jjohansen> /var/lib/snapd/apparmor/profiles/
[16:04] <sbeattie> hallyn: you're hired! (I wish)
[16:04] <hallyn> thanks jjohansen
[16:04] <hallyn> sbeattie: hirenapping is illegal
[16:05] <sbeattie> hallyn: uh-hunh, sure, if you say so.
[16:06] <hallyn> "laws are subject to interpretation"
[17:01] <sarnold> look if you just want to do the work without being paid, that's fine by us too...
[17:27] <hallyn> :)    deal!
[17:27] <hallyn> ok so i need to go find snap help i guess
[17:36] <hallyn> ugh this is a pain.  maybe i should just move to the apt package
[17:36] <jjohansen> yeah, that is what I have done for the moment
[17:37] <hallyn> otherwise it looks like i need to learn what 'stage' and 'prime' mean.  (I need to bind in /usr/bin/vim into the chroot)
[17:45] <hallyn> wow.  i did "snap remove firefox", and it removed my profile from my homedir!
[17:45] <jjohansen> O_o
[17:45] <hallyn> Now I"m very angry.  Maybe it's time to move to void linux
[18:09] <sarnold> I do keep hearing good things about void
[18:10] <sarnold> snap remove firefox killing your user profile is vastly uncool
[18:13] <hallyn> and i didn't have a backup :(
[18:13] <sarnold> :(
[18:14] <hallyn> well, i'm taking the opportunity to clear my bookmarks and make sure my extensions haven't gotten a long-lived trojan over time :)
[18:14] <sarnold> losing firefox history would be a huge blow..
[18:15] <hallyn> i don't like leaving anything but small easily verifiable text files when i switch systems (which i just did last week), but i'd cheated and rsynced my old .mozilla
[18:15] <hallyn> yeah, but OTOH having stuff in history leads me to fogetting how to find it :)  i'm juts gonna look on the bright side
[18:18] <sarnold> I wonder how moz does their firefox binary publishing; I wonder if they repurpose an existing binary for the snap, or if the snap is the "right" place to get an ubuntu firefox binary
[18:20] <hallyn> this morning i did an xprop on firefox (bc the WM_NAME had changed, as it turns out to 'Navigator' , which threw off my wm), i noticed that one of the variables said something about Arch linux.
[18:20] <hallyn> i didnt' keep the info around.
[18:22] <sarnold> *navigator*, wow. that's a blast from the past.
[18:25] <hallyn> I KNOW RITE
[18:25] <hallyn> i'm curious how that snuck in :)
[18:25] <hallyn> it wasn't there yesterday
[18:27] <sarnold> is it april? heh
[18:29]  * hallyn checks
[21:57] <jdstrand> hallyn: iirc, snapd keeps backups
[21:58]  * jdstrand tries to find it
[21:58] <jdstrand> hallyn: https://snapcraft.io/docs/snapshots - "Snapshots are generated manually with the snap save command and automatically when a snap is removed."
[22:33] <hallyn> orly
[22:36] <hallyn> i see a zipfile...  will it actually have my homedir stuff?  let's see
[22:38] <hallyn> yeah i see it.  thanks - i'll just encrypt and keep a cpy of htat in case i absolutely need something back :)
[22:57] <sdeziel> hallyn: update kernels are available now
[22:58] <sdeziel> those patching CVE-2022-0847 that is
[23:00] <hallyn> (seems to have dropped, but in case he checks the logs) thanks sdeziel,  updated a few hours ago and tested that the poc stopped working :) \o/
[23:20] <jdstrand> hallyn: \o/ :)


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[08:04] <ochosi> hey everyone, just fyi i'll be afk until mid of next week (hoooolidays!)
[08:21] <knome> hf!
[09:01] <brainwash> bluesabre: do reports like this one have to forwarded upstream now? or do you check launchpad too?
[09:01] <brainwash> bluesabre: bug 1783887
[09:04] <brainwash> The question is: should xfpanel-switch check if 'output-name' and 'position' can be applied to the new system, or should xfce4-panel not crash/disappear when given a invalid config
[10:27] <bluesabre> brainwash: it's best to forward to upstream. The ones fixing those bugs are often not in the Xubuntu team
[10:32] <brainwash> bluesabre: isn't xfpanel-switch your domain?
[10:33] <brainwash> aka Xfce4-panel-profiles
[10:50] <bluesabre> brainwash: it is, but most folks wouldn't know that :)
[10:51] <bluesabre> I'll work on resolving that bug soon. Ideally, it would check for those displays and a) fail gracefully, or b) swap them out with the current configuration
[11:02] <brainwash> bluesabre: so, xfce4-panel does not require any patching? I mean this bug could be fixed in both components, or just in either of them
[11:03] <brainwash> it's a bit confusing
[11:15] <bluesabre> Yeah, I'd imagine they both need fixes. Fixing just xfpanel-switch would for the most part hide the issue
[11:29] <bluesabre> ugh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/catfish/+bug/1782735/comments/6
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[23:42] <jbicha> hey, could you temporarily sync-blanklist the packagekit stack which is landing in unstable now?
[23:43] <jbicha> apper, gnome-packagekit, listaller, packagekit, packagekit-qt


[00:00] <popey> if you're interested, join #kazam and speak to bigwhale, very nice guy
[00:00] <popey> he's lead dev now
[00:00] <popey> and now.. bed
[00:00] <popey> nn all
[00:03] <jo-erlend> seems like a good tool. It's way too slow for my computer though. I usually set gtk-recordmydesktop to record whole frames, compress afterwards and store temporary data to a specific tmpfs. That makes it very fast.
[00:03] <jo-erlend> I might be interested in doing some work on kazam, I think.
[07:40] <bkerensa> I'm so stoked to jam all day tomorrow
[07:40] <bkerensa> :D
[07:40] <bkerensa> I just hope I can stay awake :P
[11:15] <cjohnston> mornin
[15:01] <s-fox> Hello
[15:05] <cjohnston> o/
[15:07] <s-fox> How are you cjohnston?
[15:08] <cjohnston> not too bad... at work today. :-/
[15:09] <cjohnston> yourself s-fox ?
[15:10] <s-fox> I'm good thank you,  enjoying a lazy sunday. Currently in bed watching the rugby cheering for les blues \o/
[15:10] <cjohnston> heh
[15:11] <cjohnston> i wish i was in bed today
[15:14] <s-fox> cjohnston maybe do it sometime next week? :)
[15:16] <cjohnston> s-fox: too much stuff to do
[15:22] <s-fox> Boo :/
[15:28] <czajkowski> s-fox: pah cheer the greens!
[15:28] <s-fox> Why czajkowski?
[15:29] <czajkowski> s-fox: are you french ?
[15:29] <s-fox> No, though I did live in Paris for a while
[15:29] <czajkowski> well the irish are winning :)
[15:29] <s-fox> Pfft
[15:29] <s-fox> For now
[15:29] <s-fox> :)
[15:29] <czajkowski> 10 -3
[15:30] <s-fox> At least they managed to kick off this time
[15:30] <s-fox> \o/
[15:30] <czajkowski> this is true
[15:30] <czajkowski> the french deiced the weather was ok
[15:30]  * s-fox nods
[15:31] <s-fox> I'm Scottish by birth,  they're good at self-destructing. haha. might be able to turn over Italy. czajkowski :)
[15:32] <s-fox> 6-10 \o/
[15:43] <czajkowski> missed penatly:)
[15:43] <czajkowski> try for ireland
[15:43]  * s-fox sobs
[15:44] <czajkowski> s-fox: 17 -6 :)
[15:44] <s-fox> whatever :)
[15:44] <s-fox> Ref called half time early?
[16:17] <s-fox> All square now czajkowski
[16:32] <bkerensa> :( It is so early in the morning and I have to go jam for 11 hours straight
[16:32] <bkerensa> :(
[19:14] <bkerensa> jamming in oregon now
[19:14] <cjohnston> strawberry? grape? apple?
[19:24] <jcastro> cprofitt: oh god
[19:24] <jcastro> cprofitt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5uJYGscgFk&feature=related
[19:25] <cprofitt> lol
[19:25] <cprofitt> paper pushing noob
[19:27] <cprofitt> rofl
[19:27] <cprofitt> the sad thing jcastro is the Army is more organized than many other organizations
[19:34] <bkerensa> cjohnston: :)


[00:04] <SlidingHorn> yeah I'm looking at it.  I noticed that deleting a .desktop entry for a discord appimage got it to at least load a workspace indicator and clock, but that's it so far...
[00:05] <ErichEickmeyer> Huh. At some point, I'd consider deleting the entire .config folder and starting over.
[00:39] <SlidingHorn> ErichEickmeyer: should I just rm -rf ~/.config/* ?
[01:11] <ErichEickmeyer> That’s what I would do, mostly as a last resort.
[01:19] <SlidingHorn> I think I'm going to have to - I can't find anything that seems relevant in any of the logs
[01:54] <SlidingHorn> even that didn't work...just going to reinstall :/
[01:57] <SlidingHorn> weird....so panel didn't show, etc.  I hit ctrl+alt+t and while no terminal showed up, I noticed my cursor went to a text cursor.  typed "sudo shutdown -h now" then my password, and it shut down.
[01:59] <SlidingHorn> ...and now that I powered up, everything is back.
[01:59] <SlidingHorn> wth??
[02:00] <SlidingHorn> system program problem...it appears to be generating a bug report for me...
[02:06] <SlidingHorn> bug 1764916
[02:07] <SlidingHorn> oh, it made it private
[03:04] <ErichEickmeyer> It will typically make a private bug report unless multiple people experience the same problem.
[03:26] <krytarik> Not really.
[03:39] <ErichEickmeyer> TBH, I've totally forgotten why/when it does that.
[07:14] <tarzeau> OvenWerks: ok. well the mentioned things, are mostly demoscene music trackers, and grafx2 is a deluxe paint clone
[07:14] <tarzeau> nothing overwheliming, notvery large in space occupation, but nice to have
[09:30] <sakrecoer> You should be in the team now SlidingHorn :) sorry for the delay.
[09:32] <sakrecoer> ErichEickmeyer: i'm not sure i'll be able to help with the release. So to avoid being vague about it: consider me out of the equation this time. It's not so hard just time consuming. However, maybe very maybe i'Ãll be able to join in the effort. If so, rest assured i wont interfer, just do what ever you guys could need me to do. :)
[09:37] <sakrecoer> Welcome tarzeau ! The best shot to get stuff included is to offer your help packaging and mainting the desired piece of software. Then again, like OvenWerks says: it's a good idea to make case for it in order to have everyone in agreement :)
[09:38] <sakrecoer> As for the Studio part of the distro name, it's fairly common to call the office of a designe agency a Studio. Pretty sure it applies to photography and film too.
[09:40] <sakrecoer> tarzeau: I'm glad to see a fellow tracker in here! :) I can't claim any fame or succesfull release with it. But fasttracker II is what led me to digital music production back in the days. I've tride milky tracker, but i'm looking forward to try the other ones you suggest
[09:44] <sakrecoer> really good to see all this activity in here! \o/
[09:45] <sakrecoer> I'm might get disconnected need to do some spring cleaning in my shell. :)
[09:45] <sakrecoer> read y'all later!
[11:15] <tarzeau> sakrecoer: i'm already packaging and maintaining mentioned software
[11:16] <tarzeau> sakrecoer: :) did you know there's the ft2 clone ?
[11:16] <tarzeau> sakrecoer: which has its own irc channel, and it's actively developped (releases only macos/windows at the moment) but come buggerer 8bitguy to release it and have it in linux too!


[09:49] <tseliot> ricotz: hey, the latest mesa in edgers failed to build on arm and arm64
[09:54] <ricotz> tseliot, hey, I simply ignored, I was hoping it is an upstream issue which will be fixed eventually
[09:55] <tseliot> ok
[09:56] <tjaalton> libglvnd is now in sid
[12:38] <tseliot> yay


[03:23] <jyc_> hello, does anyone here use the fglrx (proprietary ATI radeon) driver, and if so, do you have problems with updates in lubuntu?
[03:23] <holstein> i have had problems
[03:23] <holstein> not in linux... not isolated to lubuntu
[03:23] <holstein> some hareware is problematic
[03:23] <jyc_> holstein: oh, I see. how hard is it normally to resolve fglrx problems in lubuntu?
[03:25] <holstein> jyc_: nothing about ubuntu, linux or lubuntu is keeping ati from resolving those issues
[03:25] <holstein> jyc_: im not a gamer, so i have more relaxed standards
[03:25] <jyc_> holstein: wait, that's not what I'm asking about, I'm just asking about how easy it's been for you, as an end-user
[03:26] <jyc_> I'm not a gamer either, but I want to know if it's difficult to resolve problems with fglrx when they arrive
[03:26] <holstein> jyc_: they works how they work... i dont resolve anything
[03:26] <jyc_> in debian I've had to manually re-install fglrx with each kernel update, so I'm hoping ubuntu will be easier
[03:26] <jyc_> holstein: so you've never had problems?
[03:26] <holstein> jyc_: yes.. lots
[03:26] <ramprasadgk1> can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu
[03:27] <ramprasadgk1> can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu
[03:27] <jyc_> holstein: what I mean by resolve, is when the problem happens, how hard is it normally to fix it? I'm sorry if I wasn't clear
[03:27] <holstein> jyc_: but the proprietary blob gets reinstalled when you upgrade the knernel
[03:27] <jyc_> oh, that normally works well?
[03:27] <holstein> jyc_: that works every time
[03:27] <holstein> jyc_: i dont resolve.. i just deal, or move to the vesa driver... or change hardware
[03:28] <holstein> theres really no way to resovle the performance issues
[03:28] <jyc_> oh
[03:28] <jyc_> I'm still not sure what you mean (I don't really care about the performance issues), but thanks for your help
[03:28] <jyc_> I'll just try install fglrx and see how it goes, thanks!
[03:28] <holstein> sure.. it'll just roll up on the kernel upgraes
[03:28] <holstein> upgrades*
[03:28] <holstein> sorry i havent been clear
[03:29] <holstein> maybe you want to know waht issues? like full screen video playback
[03:29] <jyc_> oh no, just stuff like upgrading and basic functionality
[03:29] <holstein> screen artifacts
[03:29] <jyc_> oh
[03:29] <jyc_> there are problems with those?
[03:29] <holstein> resolution issues
[03:29] <holstein> jyc_: depends on the hardware support
[03:29] <ramprasadgk1> can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu
[03:29] <holstein> and we cant provide that support... we meaning linux in general
[03:30] <jyc_> hm, in that case I will still try and see how it goes :) I understand it's on ATI's part to fix their proprietary drivers. thanks once again
[03:30] <holstein> how do i deal? i usually try the open driver, the proprietary one, and vesa
[03:30] <ramprasadgk1> can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu
[03:30] <holstein> sometimes, its just "out of the box" easy...
[03:30] <ramprasadgk1> can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu
[03:30] <holstein> ramprasadgk1: you can just post once
[03:30] <jyc_> ramprasadgk1: don't people just normally use vlc or mplayer?
[03:31] <ramprasadgk1> vlc i sheavyweight
[03:31] <holstein> ramprasadgk1: i like VLC
[03:31] <ramprasadgk1> i need simple lightweight
[03:31] <holstein> theres a commandline version.. clvc
[03:31] <ramprasadgk1> i have vlc too but it is pretty low on my 128 ram lubuntu
[03:31] <holstein> audacious is lite
[03:31] <ramprasadgk1> audacious plays anything .. like vlc?
[03:32] <holstein> ramprasadgk1: i would expect a hit in functionality
[03:32] <ramprasadgk1> means
[03:32] <ramprasadgk1> as long as it plays evrything like .avi vob files
[03:32] <ramprasadgk1> i am fine
[03:33] <holstein> ramprasadgk1: i dont know if it does... VLC does, and i use it.. im confortable with the use of sysytem resources compared to functionality
[03:33] <ramprasadgk1> and alos my firefox goes for a toss when i start playing video on Utube
[03:33] <holstein> ramprasadgk1: audacious is an audio player
[03:33] <ramprasadgk1> oh
[03:33] <ramprasadgk1> so vlc is best i believe
[03:33] <holstein> ramprasadgk1: i would look at troubleshooting flash for the youtube issues...
[03:34] <ramprasadgk1> i had vlc for 2 reasons 1) it plays everything 2) i can stram youtube videos and save in local
[03:34] <ramprasadgk1> oh yeah flash sucks
[03:35] <ramprasadgk1> what do i troubleshoot in flash i got it from ubuntu software center
[03:36] <holstein> ramprasadgk1: on a 32bit system, i usually suggest trying the chrome browser, since it ships its own flash included.. then you'll know if its flash or firefox...
[03:36] <holstein> i usually add the "stable" firefox ppa
[03:37] <ramprasadgk1> where can i find that ppa
[03:37] <ramprasadgk1> pls let me know
[03:37] <ramprasadgk1> i dont like chrome simply because i love ff
[03:37] <ramprasadgk1> and dont want to change
[03:38] <holstein> ramprasadgk1: im nost suggestion you change.. im suggesting chrome as a troubleshooting step.. you install, all is good, you learn something
[03:39] <holstein> actually the firefox ppa's are abandonded.. you'll just get the latest upgrades is what i read
[03:39] <ramprasadgk1> 'ok
[04:06] <bioterror> holstein, MOC!
[04:06] <bioterror> holstein, it plays even SID's
[07:01] <tareef_> hi am form Arab country ... so am sorry for my English
[07:01] <tareef_> i have a problem with Lxkeymap
[07:02] <tareef_> am add the arabic layout with this command in terminal
[07:02] <tareef_> mkdir -p ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/  echo '@setxkbmap us,ar -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle"' >> ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart  setxkbmap us,ar -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
[07:03] <tareef_> i have the arabic layout
[07:04] <tareef_> but i need every login to Lubuntu
[07:05] <tareef_> to run this command again : setxkbmap us,ar -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
[07:05] <tareef_> to enable : alt+shift key to change between them
[12:30] <Danno_> are there any good on screen keyboards that work at the login screen? ive tried onboard but it doesnt work at login and it doesnt seem to have a lot of non alphabet characters
[13:46] <leszek> hi
[13:47] <LuvLinuxOS> hi all
[14:05] <holstein> bioterror: i should have suggested MOC, but i assumed a GUI was needed after clvc was not going to work
[14:20] <derpson> hi
[14:22] <bioterror> holstein, probably. but I trust in MOC ;)
[14:22] <bioterror> derpson, hi
[14:23] <bioterror> holstein, I always try some GUI stuff, but after all I end up back to MOC
[14:36] <entity999> Hello, my friend have lubuntu, but he don't have fmod, sound lib for many games, in his repos... I don't want to break his dependencies :) What should he add?
[14:38] <derpson> is anyone of you using lubuntu on a lenovo x230?
[14:38] <bioterror> derpson, too new hardware :-)
[14:38] <bioterror> we are mostly scraping from dumpster our hardware
[14:38] <derpson> can hardware ever be too new :-D
[14:39] <bioterror> entity999, maybe this: http://wiki.debian.org/FMOD
[14:39] <entity999> ahh... it will be hard to help him get through this
[14:40] <entity999> he's kind of... newb, and we only have communication via broken english
[14:40] <bioterror> those are called "challenges" :-)
[14:41] <entity999> haha :)
[14:41] <entity999> well, I guess there's no debs
[14:41] <entity999> thank you...
[19:41] <mrjobs> hello
[19:41] <mrjobs> WOuld Lubuntu run well on 512 mB ram
[19:41] <mrjobs> 2.1 ghz single core?
[19:42] <bioterror> I've seen people it running on systems with lower specs
[19:42] <mrjobs> oh
[19:42] <mrjobs> WOuld it run well?
[19:42] <mrjobs> It has NVIIDA fx 5200
[19:42] <bioterror> more RAM would not hurt
[19:42] <bioterror> but it will run
[19:43] <mrjobs> Would Skype work fine?
[19:43] <bioterror> no
[19:44] <mrjobs> why?
[19:44] <bioterror> it does not run fine, 20% of problems mentioned here are skype related :D
[19:44] <bioterror> and why? becouse skype is propietary software
[19:44] <mrjobs> wow
[19:44] <mrjobs> oh
[19:44] <tweakster> hi. I am doing an installation of Lubuntu from ISO on a desktop machine at home with two disks, one of which is empty and the other of which has Windows installed on sda1, a different Linux OS on sda2, sda3 and swap on sda4, and Grub is already installed on sda. I can see that it now wants to install its bootloader on sdb; however, I want it to put it on sda and overwrite the existing Grub if possible. Furthermore, I want t
[19:45] <mrjobs> where's the start button for Lubuntu?
[19:45] <mrjobs> the menu?
[19:46] <bioterror> tweakster, you can always install it on sda afterwards
[19:46] <bioterror> mrjobs, bottom left?
[19:46] <mrjobs> Not for me
[19:46] <mrjobs> I'm on a VM
[19:47] <tweakster> how does that all sound so far?
[19:47] <tweakster> did everything i sent show up?
[19:47] <bioterror> tweakster, no. your client do not understand the word limit of one line
[19:47] <bioterror> and continue the story on another line
[19:48] <mrjobs> it works
[19:48] <bioterror> "erwrite the existing Grub if possible. Furthermore, I want t"
[19:48] <tweakster> Furthermore, I want the other Linux overwritten and Lubuntu installed in its place with the same partitions and mount points. It seems to me that I should simply redefine sda2 and sda3 with mount points and formatting, leave sda4 swap as it is. If I tell the current installation program to put its bootloader on sda, not sdb, will it still recognize the separate Windows partition?
[19:52] <tweakster> does that all sound right?
[19:53] <bioterror> yes
[19:53] <bioterror> you take manual installation
[19:53] <bioterror> and you just over write the partitions
[19:53] <tweakster> yes
[19:53] <bioterror> it's not rocket science
[19:53] <bioterror> you dont even have to touch the swap partition
[19:53] <tweakster> as i said
[19:54] <tweakster> thanks for the input, bioterror
[19:54] <tweakster> i think
[19:54] <tweakster> :)
[20:48] <tweakster> well my installation of Lubuntu seems to have gone well enough. i'm glad of that.  is it normal for the cursor to appear continuously busy rotating afterwards? perhaps a reboot cures that?
[20:51] <bioterror> no, it's not normal
[20:51] <bioterror> but give reboot a shot
[20:51] <tweakster> i do like the LXDE interface for sure, and the response is crisp too, despite the older machine and limited RAM. I chose this OS for that reason primarily, and so far I am not disappointed.
[20:53] <tweakster> I may put the 64-bit version of it into a small VM on my laptop,too, at least for a while so that I can have it handy for practice, etc.
[20:54] <tweakster> well, hey, cross your fingers on this reboot!
[20:58] <tweakster> well, crud. it appears to have failed with getting Grub loaded right because I am getting a message saying "Missing Operating System".
[20:59] <bioterror> tweakster, it's easy to fix
[20:59] <bioterror> !grubrescue
[20:59] <bioterror> !grubrepair
[21:00] <bioterror> \o/
[21:01] <tweakster> so this would have installed Grub 2 if anything?
[21:01] <bioterror> yes
[21:01] <bioterror> oh darn
[21:01] <bioterror> hups :-)
[21:02] <tweakster> bioterror, are you saying that i need to create a Grub rescue floppy and boot it now?  Hopefully, it will see what is on the disk and install Grub correctly at this point. Is that what you are suggesting?
[21:02] <bioterror> no
[21:03] <bioterror> you can use your installation media
[21:03] <tweakster> again
[21:03] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:03] <bioterror> install that
[21:03] <bioterror> and hopefully it will fix it for you
[21:04] <bioterror> otherwise I might have to guide you to chroot into your system and run grub-install :-)
[21:14] <bioterror> tweakster, better be good news!
[21:16] <tweakster> bioterror: i am reading the information on Boot-Repair and creating a CD. the problem is on another machine, as you might have surmised.
[21:17] <bioterror> tweakster, you can use the same CD
[21:17] <bioterror> as you used for the installation
[21:17] <bioterror> you just add PPA and you install it
[21:18] <bioterror> unless you used alternate CD
[21:18] <bioterror> :-)
[21:21] <tweakster> bioterror, i used the x86 desktop CD download here:  http://lubuntu.net/
[21:22] <tweakster> where do i now find the PPA to install, which you mentioned above, bioterror?
[21:22] <bioterror> in that boot-repair guide
[21:26] <tweakster> bioterror, it is downloading and installing now.
[21:33] <tweakster> it appears to be scanning my system at this point
[21:34] <tweakster> i am going to select Recommended Repair as the guide suggests now.
[21:37] <tweakster> It says it is purging and repairing Grub on sdb2.  That sure is not where I had told it to install initially.
[21:37] <bioterror> hmmmm
[21:37] <bioterror> I have to hit the bed
[21:38] <bioterror> with advanced you can force it sda?
[21:38] <bioterror> "place grub to sda2
[21:38] <bioterror> or something that
[21:39] <tweakster> it want me now to enable a repository containing the Linux packages in the sofware  sources of Ubutu 12.04 LTS (sdb2). Then try again.
[21:40] <tweakster> what does that mean exactly?
[22:02] <tweakster> i sure hate when that happens.  :(
[23:48] <Danno_> is there any way to make ubuntu treat a long press on the touchscreen as a right click?


[10:47] <taomaster> easy way 2 install java
[11:26] <tashiro> taomaster: The easiest way is apt-get install java-gcj-compat
[11:27] <tashiro> taomaster: But maybe you want SUN's or IBM's vm instead, then google for make-jpkg and java-package


[00:20] <MrnateGeek> Anyone here?
[06:00] <beki> yhh
[16:55] <tec> c
[20:54] <Greg2> Hello.
[20:56] <Greg2> I have a laptop that doesn´t work well with (x)Ubuntu. I am trying again with the newest version. What are the recommendations in terms of EFI, fastboot, Intel Optane, etc... for installing?
[20:59] <guiverc> Greg2, fastboot off, efi should work with secure-boot on/off (if ISO cloned to media; the ISO write impacts this)
[21:01]  * guiverc assuming fastboot was windows fastboot; so file-system is clean and not ignored
[21:03] <Greg2> @guiverc Thanks. Downloading 23.10 now. Going to put it on a flash drive via MultiWriter. This will not be dual boot. Just Xubuntu.
[21:04] <Greg2> Otherwise giving up on this laptop. Not worth my time anymore if this doesnt work. I hate how badly Linux is treated by some manufacturers.
[21:10] <guiverc> older devices can sometimes be easier with older kernels (ie. 22.04 with GA stack meaning 22.04(.1) but you'll detect that on boot (graphic issues yes/no).. I prefer larger ESP size but I dual boot
[21:17] <Greg2> @guiverc Its not that old. Just a few years. And its had issues since day 1.
[21:21] <Greg2> It doesnt have graphical issues. It just often just doesnt want to boot up. It takes many tried some times to boot. After boot its alright. But its very frustrating.
[21:23] <torv> Greg2: It may be good to ensure latest BIOS updates are applied.
[21:29] <Greg2> @torv Yes, I updated the BOIS after all the issues, but it did not fix it. Havent checked lately if theres another BIOS update. Maybe I should.
[21:47] <tomreyn> loading manufacturer defaults and setting it up again may also help with boot issues
[22:58] <sagat> #xubuntu
[22:58] <sagat> alguem sabe como instalar o compiz no xubuntu
[22:58] <sagat> desde ja muito obrigado
[22:58] <sagat> tenhamos uma boa tarde
[22:59] <sagat> acho que estou no lugar errado
[22:59] <sagat> até


[23:40] <KRomo> unity is the best
[23:41] <Pici> vexaxv: Again, this is not a discussion channel. If you have a specific Ubuntu software question, feel free to ask, but other discussion belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere.
[23:41] <vexaxv> KRomo, i like unity lol
[23:41] <nulldev> vexaxv ubuntu must have I run that on Gentoo
[23:41] <OerHeks> harris_, yes, i know.
[23:41] <KRomo> i love unity much
[23:41] <vexaxv> nulldev, huh?
[23:41] <vexaxv> nulldev, what are you talkin about?
[23:42] <nulldev> vexaxv sorry wrong window
[23:42] <harris_> OerHeks, what was i supposed to do on that link that was kubuntu
[23:42] <Jorsch> ActionParsnip: turns out xrdp didn't like me passing in the domain. leaving that blank works fine.
[23:42] <vexaxv> nulldev, ah, np
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> Jorsch: sweet
[23:42] <Jorsch> tx
[23:43] <bluefox83> ok, the login screen keeps kicking me out after putting my password in. there is no error for a bad password, it just kicks me back to the login screen. I fixed this before but don't remember how. anyone?
[23:43] <nulldev> vexaxv a way around it though is to spoof your browser which isnt to hard
[23:43] <vexaxv> nulldev, i pm'd u
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: how much free space do you have?
[23:43] <OerHeks> harris, told you it is buggy, and it is not for kubuntu only.
[23:43] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: 38 gigs
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in there is it ok?
[23:44] <harris_> OerHeks,  i cant understand him please tell me what to type
[23:44] <bluefox83> how do you think i got here?
[23:44] <OerHeks> harris_, dunno
[23:44] <d-1337> got it to work..  apparently it will only allow .desktop files to be added..  retarded pos
[23:45] <d-1337> wish it just grabbed those files from a folder like a normal launcher
[23:45] <IdleOne> d-1337: please mind your language
[23:45] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: works fine to press ctrl alt f1 so i know it's like a gnome file or something...i just don't recall which ones
[23:46] <Guest71182> hola
[23:46] <Chuck_Norris> hola
[23:46]  * d-1337 thought he was...
[23:46] <Chuck_Norris> !es | Guest71182
[23:46] <Celso_> hi all! people, i need to know how do i prevent something to turn on on ubuntu 12.04. imagine that i want to prevent my graphics card to getting on when i boot ubuntu. what should i do?
[23:46] <harushimo> I want to run vmware esxi on ubuntu 12.04.  Is it possible?
[23:47] <harushimo> !vmware
[23:48] <DMASS> Has anyone else had firewall/ssh issues after updating a fresh 12.04 server install?
[23:48] <funnyfingers> harushimo esxi is its own os and hypervisor
[23:48] <lacrymology> how do I install (or check if they are already installed) the usbnet modules in my kernel?
[23:48] <funnyfingers> So no you can't install esxi on any other platform at all.
[23:48] <harushimo> really?
[23:48] <robotdevil> what is the best firefox plugin for watching video steams/embedded video on webpages?
[23:48] <harushimo> I didn't know that
[23:49] <funnyfingers> harushimo you install it by itself very easily.
[23:49] <harushimo> !vmware
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: sure, or you can use virtualbox etc
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: flash probably
[23:49] <harushimo> I am using virtual box
[23:50] <[snake]> Can someone answer a quick question I have about gcc? (Here it is): what does the -Wall option(s) mean that I see so often almost everywhere.
[23:50] <harushimo> I heard esxi is 64 bit natively while virtual box is 32 bit
[23:50] <robotdevil> ActionParsnip: no, I mean for quicktime and all that
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> [snake]: read:   man gxx
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: ah, there are a few, none are 'best'
[23:50] <Celso_> hi all! people, i need to know how do i prevent something to turn on on ubuntu 12.04. imagine that i want to prevent my graphics card to getting on when i boot ubuntu. what should i do?
[23:50] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: any idea how to get me past my gnome login window? if i recall correctly there is a file locking it but i don't remember which one...
[23:50] <DMASS> weve been using the free version of esxi and its really nice
[23:50] <[snake]> ActionParsnip, perhaps you meant gcc.
[23:51] <d-1337> another 12.04 unity question:  How do I change the number of virtual desktops?
[23:51] <DMASS> tried forever to get KVM to work properly but never succeeded
[23:51] <bluefox83> Celso_: add the driver for the card to the blacklist
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: mozilla-plugin-vlc  is an option
[23:51] <Celso_> i already did and updated the initramfs but is still on.
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> [snake]: that too
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: not sure, make sure you are the owner of all the files in $HOME can help too
[23:52] <robotdevil> ActionParsnip: doesnt seem to get everything. Very surprised as vlc stand alone plays everything
[23:52] <Celso_> bluefox83: i tryied to blacklist the radeon and the fglrx driver but still on.
[23:52] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: i am...
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> [snake]: seems to mean warn on all
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: it can play as much as the other players you can install
[23:53] <bluefox83> calexnk: did you unload the driver?
[23:53] <lopnut1971> i have a lexmark z23 printer, however when i try to install the .sh i found on lexmarks site the installer will fail halfway through, any ideas?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> lopnut1971: does it come with some deb files?
[23:54] <robotdevil> ActionParsnip: you mean *plugins I install
[23:54] <bluefox83> lopnut1971: ive never heard a good thing about a lexmark printer, i strongly suggest returning it and getting an HP
[23:54] <Celso_> Bluefox83: how do i unload them?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: yes, all the players will access the central store for plugins, so VLC will play as many media types as any, as they all use the same codecs
[23:54] <lopnut1971> ActionParsnip, lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh
[23:54] <nulldev> dot matrix were worse than lexmark
[23:54] <Celso_> ops, wasnt for me
[23:54] <bluefox83> Celso_: sudo modprobe -r *modulename*
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> lopnut1971: sudo lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh
[23:55] <lopnut1971> tried
[23:55] <Celso_> thanks Bluefox83
[23:55] <[snake]> ActionParsnip, I got it "man gcc | grep Wall" thanks!
[23:55] <Golfgeo> Hi all
[23:55] <bluefox83> np Celso_
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> lopnut1971: tried redownloading the file and MD5 testing both?
[23:55] <Benkinooby> hi, atm i use a ubuntu 10.04 based on a minimal install, and fluxbox as gui. if i would install ubuntu 12.04 with the same setup, would there be any notable performace cahnges?
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> [snake]: like it :D
[23:55] <lopnut1971> ActionParsnip, i can try redownloading.. but
[23:56] <lopnut1971> i don't know how much good it'll do, but for the heck of it
[23:56] <stef1a> Hi. I'm using 12.04 on a HP ProBook 4535s. I cannot control the brightness of my screen from the "Brightness and Lock" manager, as there is no slider (see http://i.imgur.com/V5KdI.png). I have tried editing my grub config files and adding the acpi-vendor and linux lines. I can now control the brightness via fn + f2/f3, but only a bit, and it's still buggy -- the brightness changes whenever I navigate to a new page in Chrome, for instance.
[23:56] <KRomo> is shell and terminal the same thing?
[23:56] <lopnut1971> KRomo, no
[23:56] <Golfgeo> got a question... Have a UVC webcam here (logitec pro 9000) and I'm hoping there is an controll application for it... Show's up very dark while the cam can do beter under these conditions...
[23:56] <KRomo> how do i run something in the shell?
[23:56] <lopnut1971> KRomo, a terminal is like a client for the shell to run in, there are many types of shells such as cshell and zshell
[23:56] <KRomo> can i pm you?
[23:56] <Celso_> Bluefox83 :it says: module not found
[23:56] <lopnut1971> naw, kinda busy
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Golfgeo: is it ok in cheese?
[23:57] <KRomo> ok
[23:57] <KRomo> thx anyway
[23:57] <bluefox83> Celso_: show me how you entered it
[23:57] <robotdevil> ActionParsnip: on the stand alone side of things, is there a benefit to having mplayer2 installed instead of plain mplayer. I use smplayer once in awhile and in didnt seem to install mplayer2.
[23:57] <Golfgeo> ActionParsnip: Haven't tried it with that... MS driver gives controll app where I need to switch an option...
[23:57] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : withe the sudo first then modprobe -r radeon
[23:57] <robotdevil> and it*
[23:57] <nulldev> a shell is an enviroment a terminal is an emulated enviroment of the shell
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> Golfgeo: you aren't using windows now dude :)
[23:58] <bluefox83> Celso_: cut and paste it pls
[23:58] <bluefox83> *please
[23:58] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : sudo modprobe -r fglrx
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: not used mplayer too, I use gnome-mplayer though
[23:58] <Golfgeo> ActionParsnip: Know that haha Debian fan here... But for my servers eh ;) Installing cheese right now
[23:58] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : sudo modprobe -r radeon
[23:58] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : all guived the same
[23:59] <bluefox83> ok, that means it's not laoded
[23:59] <bluefox83> *loaded
[23:59] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : radeon module not found
[23:59] <harris_> how do i download a app in the software center that lets me login to ubuntu 12.04 using my face and my webcam
[23:59] <bluefox83> if you do lsmod | grep radeon   does anything show up?
[23:59] <Celso_> nop
[23:59] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : nop


[00:02] <jmux> There was definitly too much wine in todays desert (and it was too fluid - well) :-)
[00:08] <JackWolfSkin_> I am not sure there is such a thing as too much wine :O
[00:09] <valorie> the wolfskin even has a tail, nice
[00:09] <valorie> I suppose when drinking wine, if you can no longer stand
[00:10] <valorie> you can sit and drink more
[08:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:25] <sgclark> hiyas
[08:26] <lordievader> Hey sgclark, how are you?
[08:27] <sgclark> can't sleep, it is actually late night here :(
[08:28] <lordievader> Hmmm :(
[08:46] <valorie> sgclark: if only you were in munich helping them with that plum vodka
[08:46] <sgclark> hehe I know!
[09:01] <yofel> We'll see how far we'll get with that ^^
[09:41] <Riddell> hola
[09:42] <sgclark> hiyas
[09:42] <lordievader> o/
[09:42] <ovidiu-florin> We Have ȚUICĂ for anyone who wants in the lobby :D
[09:50] <Riddell> it's not for breakfast!
[10:12] <Riddell> valorie: awake?
[10:12] <Riddell> valorie: did anyone bring the qca issue to you?
[10:12] <valorie> yup
[10:12] <valorie> yes
[10:12] <valorie> Martin wrote to me
[10:12] <valorie> and Lydia has now read it, so we are on the case
[10:13] <valorie> PM if you want to know more
[10:16] <Riddell> great
[10:53] <JackWolfSkin_> shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9169920/
[10:57] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: http://paste.kde.org/pmzibhget
[10:58] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: actually, better http://paste.ubuntu.com/9169984/
[10:58] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9170003/
[10:59] <shadeslayer> yofel: ^^
[11:07] <shadeslayer> sgclark: you just got volunteered to package qca
[11:07] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: ^
[11:07] <sgclark> huh?
[11:10] <sgclark> dunno what that is.
[11:10] <shadeslayer> ask JackWolfSkin_
[11:11] <sgclark> well, I need sleep soon, 3am and I have not been able to sleep at all tonight :(
[11:13] <JackWolfSkin_> pft
[11:13] <JackWolfSkin_> it's mighty complicated bullshit anyway
[11:13] <JackWolfSkin_> gives me a headache
[11:14] <sgclark> well that certainly does not sound like a good task for someone suffering from insomnia heh
[11:14] <sgclark> I will stick to my merges, thanks lol
[11:45] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[11:45] <sgclark> hiiyas
[11:57] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: do you have any photos?
[11:57] <Riddell> I want to blog
[12:00] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[12:00] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: where?
[12:00] <ovidiu-florin> one moment
[12:04] <ovidiu-florin> https://apollo.geekaliens.com:8001/public.php?service=files&t=b91dfb35065c1c3aaa96841efb38cd9a upload photos please, use the WiFi password
[12:30]  * Riddell publishes http://jriddell.org/2014/11/22/blog-move-bug-squashing-party-in-munich/
[12:35] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: inoticoming
[12:39] <JackWolfSkin_> shadeslayer: inotifywatch maybe
[12:44] <Riddell> 12:34 < bcooksley> in short: what you want to do is possible only with D7 / Wordpress, and you'll have to configure it just right
[12:44] <Riddell> conclusion of ben about our new website
[13:00] <soee_> im not sure what is teh topic, but i never agree with: possible only with D7 / Wordpress ?
[13:02] <soee_> btw there is somethin wrong with konversation, it does not highlight channel when new messages are posteed
[13:58] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: http://paste.kde.org/p2k8xqfm2
[13:58] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: gets triggered even when the file hasn't been fully written
[13:58] <shadeslayer> I: Processing calamares_0+git20141120.71_amd64.changes.tmp.1416664643.502511978.28002.2144120825
[14:15] <JackWolfSkin_> ubottu: find sys/filio.h
[14:16] <JackWolfSkin_> ubottu: ping
[14:16] <JackWolfSkin_> y u hate me?
[14:20] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_: because you have a silly nickname
[14:20] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: fu
[14:23] <JackWolfSkin_> YOFEL BROKE ALL THE CI
[14:23] <yofel> \o/
[14:23] <yofel> git is weird
[14:23] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: I need a whiteboard  to talk about kci
[14:27] <Riddell> you'd need to kick the akonadi people out their room
[14:28] <JackWolfSkin_> why is dan not in this channel here
[14:29] <BluesKaj> maybe akonadi can be wrtitten out of kubuntu as a default altogether, now there's a thought :)
[14:30] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_: because he's a red hat man?
[14:30] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: they are using the board right now dan said
[14:30] <BluesKaj> make it an option in the repos
[14:30] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: so, I used to hang out in fedora-kde
[14:31] <BluesKaj> or repackage akonadi as an available package
[14:33] <Riddell> BluesKaj: akonadi is due to be rewritten so it's not a separate server anyway
[14:33] <Riddell> don't you read my blog post which I published over an hour ago?!
[14:33] <JackWolfSkin_> !
[14:33] <yofel> <- fixed the ci
[14:34] <JackWolfSkin_> ci so slo
[14:35] <Riddell> not as slow as compiling libreoffice
[14:35] <JackWolfSkin_> needs more cores and ssd
[14:35] <JackWolfSkin_> problem solved
[14:36] <Riddell> I have ssd and icecream
[14:36] <JackWolfSkin_> needs moar ramz then
[14:36] <soee_> i think i china there is now most powerful pc
[14:36] <JackWolfSkin_> actually depending on unit size icecream might actually be counterproductive
[14:51] <yofel> Riddell: hm, just found this in kanagram:
[14:51] <yofel> Maintainer: Debian/Ubuntu Qt/KDE Maintainers<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:51] <yofel> X-Ubuntu-Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:52] <yofel> any idea who invented that?
[14:52] <Riddell> nope
[14:52] <Riddell> best fix it
[14:52] <yofel> ack
[14:59] <JackWolfSkin_> yofel: btw http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/ci-tooling.git/tree/lib/lp.rb :P
[15:01] <Riddell> shadeslayer: did you see we missed this last weekend? http://blogs.fsfe.org/rcarreras/?p=155
[15:01] <shadeslayer> :O
[15:01] <shadeslayer> boo
[15:07] <Riddell> but RMS on Wednesday :)
[15:24] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:24] <shadeslayer> not really interested tbh
[15:24] <shadeslayer> but meh
[15:28] <Riddell> "join us now and share the sofware..."
[15:31] <yofel> why for Bavaria's sake do we have a phonon4qt5 package that has phonon4qt5experimental split out but doesn't actually work without it?!? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9174381/
[15:31] <yofel> or am I reading this wrong o.O?
[15:33] <Riddell> why does phonon4qt5experimental exist at all?
[15:33] <Riddell> blame the phonon maintainer
[15:34] <JackWolfSkin_> shadeslayer: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon5/orchestration/view/head:/bot/upstart/neonbot.conf
[15:56]  * Sick_Rimmit appears with a flash...
[16:20] <Riddell> o
[16:21] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: coming to fosdem?
[16:21] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: It's not definite, but I think it is very likely.
[16:21] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: talks being accepted now :)
[16:21] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I would really like to, be a chance to hang out with some of the Kubuntu gang
[16:22] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I like talking :-)
[16:22] <Riddell> it's a pretty intense event
[16:22] <Sick_Rimmit> I don't know too much about it really..
[16:23] <Sick_Rimmit> I probably ought to, but having never been I never looked up to find out what I was missing
[16:23] <Sick_Rimmit> I'm going to test the water with the AtRandom gang, see if they're up for it
[16:23] <Riddell> it starts off with lots of beer
[16:23] <Riddell> continues the next day with about 3 keynote rooms and about 30 dev rooms
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> Right, excellent
[16:24] <Riddell> followed by more beer
[16:24] <Riddell> followed by lots more dev rooms, and stalls
[16:24] <Riddell> we'll need lots of help on the stall
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I'm getting to old for all that Beer, I can't handle the following day
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> :-(
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> or that day after that
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> :-(
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> sometimes, even the day after that
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> lol
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> :-)
[16:25] <Riddell> me too, I have to leave early usually and take taxis around the place
[16:25] <Riddell> the good news is the ubuntu community fund will pay for a decent hotel
[16:25] <yofel> hm... If I would try to go I would need to get there friday evening and leave sunday afternoon (and get some ~200€ for the train ticket)
[16:26] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I think I can get there on the Train from Exeter, via the EuroStar, which works out well
[16:26] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Do you mean the Ubuntu fund would pay for my accomodation /
[16:27] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I wanted to ask about something else
[16:27] <Sick_Rimmit> I run the ExeterLUG..
[16:27] <Sick_Rimmit> Next month I am going to be focusing them on Kubuntu Bug Fixing, and Development, and how to get involved
[16:28] <Sick_Rimmit> Wondering if we could get one of the other members of Kubuntu-devel to join us via Hangout, and do a short presentation on How to get involved
[16:28] <Sick_Rimmit> My cunning plan is to then sign them all up to launchpad, and the Kubuntu mailing list ;-)
[16:30] <Sick_Rimmit> It's on Friday 12th December in the evening, would be 8pm GMT, 9PM CET
[16:31] <JackWolfSkin_> has anyone seen my pants?
[16:32] <Sick_Rimmit> Er no, perhaps you could pastebin a copy ?
[16:33] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_: I expect they're under your trousers?
[16:33] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: yes ubuntu fund is there from donations that need to be used up so just say you're into kubuntu
[16:33] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: I guess it would help if you became a kubuntu member but otherwise I can just apply for you
[16:34] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I thought I was a Kubuntu Member, I am on Launchpad, and I even have me own business cards :-)
[16:35] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: nope, it's a bit more formal than that, see https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Policies#.7Ekubuntu-members
[16:35] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: If I am not a Kubuntu member I would like to get that sorted
[16:36] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: have you made a significant and sustained contribution to kubuntu?
[16:37] <Sick_Rimmit> I like to think so, I have been involved for 4 or 5 years
[16:37] <Sick_Rimmit> I know I'm still getting my head around packaging...
[16:37] <Riddell> doing stuff like getting your whole lug to switch to kubuntu and become contributors is definately significant :)
[16:38] <Sick_Rimmit> Of course If I am compared to scarlet well then I'm rubbish
[16:38] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: yes I should be free that day says my calendar
[16:38] <Riddell> we're all rubbish compared to scarlett
[16:38] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Can I book you for that Hangout for the LUG on the 12th ?
[16:40] <Sick_Rimmit> I deployed Kubuntu on LTSP across 4 sites, interconnected via WAN with KDE on the desktop, and OpenOffice training etc.. etc..
[16:40] <Sick_Rimmit> Google Rick Timmis Super Tramp
[16:40] <Riddell> sounds like a +1 fro me
[16:40] <Sick_Rimmit> That was another KDE deployment
[16:40] <yofel> make a wiki page about you that lists all that and I think we'll manage to get you in ;)
[16:40] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: you'd need to organise a meeting of the kubuntu council, start a doodle poll with some days/time and send it out
[16:41] <yofel> Sick_Rimmit: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Membership
[16:42] <Sick_Rimmit> OK I will look at the stuff on kde.org, and get it sorted
[16:43] <Riddell> great :)
[16:51] <Riddell> KDE file dialog working again in libreoffice!
[16:51] <Sick_Rimmit> OK, I see what needs to be done. I'll get on to that, I am in the process of rebuilding my website, so I put up a Kubuntu section, add it all to that and then organise a Council meeting
[16:51] <yofel> Riddell++
[16:55] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: ooh did you see my remade website?
[16:56] <Sick_Rimmit> No where is it too
[16:56] <Riddell> jriddell.org
[16:56] <Riddell> wordpress
[16:56] <Riddell> can you test comments are working?
[16:57] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: did you see the comment on facebook about the video with you in it?  "bit of a shoreditch beard"
[16:58] <Sick_Rimmit> No don't do facebook,
[16:58] <Riddell> a holdout
[16:58] <Sick_Rimmit> I sure will test your comments on your site
[16:59] <Sick_Rimmit> Going to have to go again now, my Girls want me to watch Xmas movie with them :-)
[16:59] <Sick_Rimmit> ttfn
[16:59] <Riddell> tell them it's november
[16:59] <Sick_Rimmit> lol
[17:01] <Sick_Rimmit> Alison ( my wife ) said to tell you, It's only 5 weeks to go, best you get off up the town shopping ;-)
[17:02] <Riddell> fortunatly us Catalans don't exchange presents until the coming of el tres reyes on jan 6th
[17:02] <Riddell> means we can buy stuff in the january sales :)
[17:05] <Sick_Rimmit> My wife's a Devonian, she too buys the presents in the January sales, and keeps it all in my Office !!  XD
[17:54] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9177077/
[17:57] <JackWolfSkin_> HAI GUIS I JUST UPLOADED KCM WHOOPSIE MAKE SURE IT BUILDS KTHXBAI
[18:08] <soee> :)
[18:57] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: google: oh my zsh
[18:58] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: actually google: powerline might give similar results
[19:27] <shadeslayer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/56369
[19:27] <yofel> how dare they say that! :D
[19:32] <Riddell> oh my god
[19:32] <Riddell> libreoffice compiled
[19:32] <Riddell> and my patch worked
[19:33] <yofel> \o/
[19:40]  * ScottK has to say that Harald is looking very serious for Harald in his photo on jr's blog.
[19:42] <yofel> yes, that was due to him pretending that he's a non-alcoholic
[19:44] <lordievader> Hooray
[19:48] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: deleted
[19:51] <JackWolfSkin_> yofel: pretending Oo
[19:52] <Riddell> to be fair, he hasn't had any alcohol since getting to Bavaria so maybe he really isn't an alcoholic
[19:54] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: dantti is going to make my kubuntu-driver-manager upload ftbfs :'<
[19:54] <Riddell> oh?
[19:55] <JackWolfSkin_> no debconf-kde release => no qapt release => missing dep
[19:59] <soee> a raw concept of a Develoeprs section (without any styling yet etc.) http://kubuntu.dev.soee.pl/
[20:00] <soee> maybe ill skip the text under profile, and the small circle image on the thumb is a placeholder for falg
[20:00] <soee> *flag
[20:02] <yofel> so, is a tagging pattern like "ubuntu/4%4.14.3-0ubuntu1" something we can agree on for debian git?
[20:02] <yofel> maxy didn't mind
[20:02] <yofel> (the % is the : from the epoch, dunno why gbp replaces that)
[20:03] <yofel> that's with: git-buildpackage --git-ignore-branch --git-tag-only --git-sign-tags --git-debian-tag='ubuntu/%(version)s'
[20:04] <ScottK> yofel: ":" isn't legal in a git tag
[20:04] <yofel> ok, I thought as much
[20:04] <yofel> sadly debcommit hardcodes "debian/%s", so we can't use that for tagging
[20:14] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_: want to go and buy me a beer?
[20:26] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: huh?
[20:29] <JackWolfSkin_> ehm
[20:29] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell, shadeslayer, yofel: why does kubuntu have an outdated about-distro?
[20:30] <Noskcaj> Is anyone working on the libinfinity 0.6 transition? (kte-collaborative and libqinfinity need work)
[20:31] <yofel> JackWolfSkin_: I think the issue came up, everyone was confused about the implementation and forgot about it
[20:31] <JackWolfSkin_> what?
[20:31] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_: because you haven't bought me a beer yet?
[20:31] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: that was in jul you bastard
[20:32] <Riddell> 1.50+git20140731.1
[20:32] <Riddell> what's the current version?
[20:33] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: 1.1
[20:33] <Riddell> well 1.50 sounds newer then
[20:33] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: that's only in next?
[20:34] <Riddell> oh I've not synced everything from next to archive yet
[20:34] <Riddell> feel free to do so
[20:35] <JackWolfSkin_> that snapshot has no l10n
[20:40] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: idk, probably apachelogger's fault
[20:40] <JackWolfSkin_> bastard
[21:03] <ScottK> yofel: debcommit should be fixed.
[21:06] <Noskcaj> kte-collaborative and libqinfinity will both need git snapshots for the new libinfinity
[21:10] <yofel> ScottK: debian #708201
[21:13] <JackWolfSkin_> Noskcaj: more like needs releases
[21:13] <Noskcaj> JackWolfSkin_, That would also work
[21:14] <yofel> just nag scummos for a kte-coll. release
[21:26] <shadeslayer> someone rewrite debcommit in ruby plz
[21:26]  * ScottK votes for Haskell.
[21:29] <yofel> debian seems to like ocaml
[21:32] <Riddell> yofel: allee: shadeslayer, JackWolfSkin_: who's around on monday want to go to http://hintquest.com/en/ ?
[21:32] <yofel> not me
[21:32] <shadeslayer> I have a flight at 10
[21:32] <ScottK> Ocaml would work too.
[21:32] <JackWolfSkin_> I have a train at 12
[21:33] <Riddell> or how about the surf wave? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXxSNUKp_Xw
[21:35] <allee> The suffers are cool.   If you have not seen it.  Try.
[21:36] <allee> On Monday I've several meetings at work and dancing lessions in the evening :-(
[21:59] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: this paint stripped in delicious
[21:59] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: this paint stripper in delicious
[22:02] <shadeslayer> ^^
[22:02] <shadeslayer> is
[22:04] <Riddell> kubotu!
[22:05] <Riddell> awooga
[22:05] <JackWolfSkin_> LAWL
[22:05] <yofel> whaaaaaa
[22:07] <yofel> kubotu: have a cookie
[22:09] <Riddell> soee: today's image boots into plasma 5
[22:09] <Riddell> lordievader: ↑
[22:12] <shadeslayer> yofel: https://github.com/shadeslayer/static-generator/blob/master/generate_html.rb
[22:12] <shadeslayer> yofel: so much better :P
[22:13] <shadeslayer> actually
[22:13] <shadeslayer> I need to push a patch there
[22:13] <JackWolfSkin_> patches are evil.
[22:13] <shadeslayer> not if they're in ruby
[22:16] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: ping
[22:23] <soee> ;o
[22:25] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: paint stripper, Riddell got a stripper that paints clearly
[22:26] <shadeslayer> making good use of the Ubuntu funds
[22:26] <shadeslayer> :P


[04:28] <jjjacq> G'day
 Thank you for sharing (re @Rodrigo: /usr/share/sddm/themes/lubuntu/wall.png)
[17:10] <Guest58> how do i enable the worldclock after deleting it from the lxqt panel? there are no options to enable it again
 Did you try edit panel and add the widget again?


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