[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #138058 in update-manager (main) "do-release-upgrade crashed with KeyError in parse()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138058
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #138113 in xsane (main) "xsane conflicts with libgimp2.0 2.4" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138113
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #138121 in sabayon (main) "Use Sabayon profile with a new user has some issues" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138121
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #138122 in anon-proxy (universe) "Please sync anon-proxy (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138122
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #138123 in compiz (main) "Changing Window Preferences - Titlebar Action has no effect" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138123
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #138124 in xsane (main) "[Gutsy]  Xsane dependencies problem with libgimp2.0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138124
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #138125 in logcheck (main) "Ignore postfix/policy-spf "not currently prepared for false failures"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138125
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #138126 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crash while removing media" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138126
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #138127 in k3b (main) "K3b doesn't play mp3 files when asked before burning" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138127
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #138128 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crash while opening folder" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138128
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #138129 in kmobiletools (universe) "kmobiletools crashed when synchronising via bluetooth" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138129
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #138130 in dmraid (universe) "dmraid doesn't work with gigabyte k8nf-9 nforce4x chipset" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138130
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #138132 in kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts (main) "konqueror crashed when storing password " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138132
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #138134 in adept (main) "adept crash while fetching update list" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138134
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #138136 in kdepim (main) ""Check Mail in This Folder" now checks all Folders in kmail" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138136
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138137 in eog (main) "Shortcuts in "Eye of GNOME 2.18.1" do not work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138137
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138139 in gnat-glade-doc (universe) "Please sync gnat-glade-doc (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138139
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #138140 in gqcam (universe) "Please sync gqcam (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138140
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #138141 in openoffice.org (main) "export of openoffice draw to svg renders text invisable in the svg file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138141
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #138142 in langdrill (universe) "Please sync langdrill (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138142
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #138143 in kdebase (main) "kde-win-decorator crash when rolling mouse middle button upon it" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138143
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #138145 in ia32-libs (universe) "missing ia32 libXcomposite" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138145
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #138146 in update-manager (main) "update-manager failes if you do not download the latest kernal " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138146
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138149 in sqlite (main) "[Fake sync]  sqlite (2.8.17-2.1build1) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138149
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #138151 in pam-http (universe) "Please sync pam-http (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138151
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #138152 in ptex-bin (universe) "[Sync Request Universe]  ptex-bin 3.1.10~beta3+0.04b-4.1" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138152
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #138156 in apt-setup (main) "install fails to discover XP (boot) partition" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138156
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #138159 in ubuntu "Sound Not Working Out Of Box With Realtek ALC861 w/Hack Fix" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138159
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #138163 in ubuntu "no sound" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138163
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #138162 in ubuntu "[amd64]  nspluginwrapper needs 32-bit libXcomposite (dup-of: 138145)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138162
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138164 in gaim (main) "gaim shows me as my own contact and allows me to message myself" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138164
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138165 in alsa-driver (main) "Ever since upgrading to kernel 2.6.22-10, audio doesn't work with an MCP51 based motherboard" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138165
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #138166 in firefox (main) "Firefox - Page Up/Page Down Key Not Working When Blinking Cursor Is On" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138166
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #138167 in gmail-notify (universe) "gmail-notify menu item tooltip is not HIG compliant" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138167
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #138169 in pimd (universe) "[Sync Request Universe]  pimd 2.1.0-alpha29.17-8" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138169
[04:57] <ubotu> New bug: #138168 in fetchmail (main) "[gutsy]  fetchmail: mail is permanently LOST when root disk is full and retrieved through POP3" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138168
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #138171 in ubuntu "[regression]  sky2 network driver loses connection, grabs ipv6 ip" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138171
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #138172 in osb-jscore (universe) "[Removal Request Universe]  osb-jscore 0.5.0-1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138172
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #138173 in gnome-control-center "gnome-font-viewer menu item name is not HIG compliant" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138173
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #138174 in dolphin (main) "kubuntu dolphin crash while closing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138174
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #138176 in ubiquity (main) "InstallStepError: GrubInstaller failed with code 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138176
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #138178 in cdcover (universe) "Please sync cdcover (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138178
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #138177 in ubuntu "Deleted Profile?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138177
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #138179 in ubiquity (main) "Guided partitioning" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138179
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #138180 in ubiquity (main) "Guided partitioning LVM failed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138180
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #138181 in network-manager-openvpn (universe) "Network Manager's openvpn plugin doesn't respect DHCP's domain setting." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138181
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #138182 in ndisgtk (universe) "ndisgtk does not run in terminal mode or gui" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138182
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #138183 in firefox (main) "major cosmetic issue with page header during scrolling (SF.net link)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138183
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #138184 in ubuntu "Gtusy hangs after boot on HP laptop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138184
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #138186 in ubuntu "initial installation of livecd and installation halts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138186
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #138185 in update-manager (main) "New distribution release '7.10' is available" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138185
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #138187 in ubuntu "Scanner on a very common all in one" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138187
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #138188 in ubuntu "Logitech revolution mouse unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138188
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #138189 in kde-systemsettings (main) "libpython2.5.so is missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138189
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #138190 in pidgin "Pidgin duplicates contacts in jabber/xmpp" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138190
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #138192 in viewvc (universe) "Please sync viewvc (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138192
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #138193 in ubuntu "Closing lid during initial shutdown causes notebook to suspend" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138193
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #138194 in ubuntu "Closing lid during initial shutdown causes notebook to suspend" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138194
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #138195 in telepathy-salut (universe) "Please sync telepathy-salut (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138195
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #138196 in ubuntu "Service manager crashes  when deselecting DBus" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138196
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #138198 in liferea (main) "Lifrea notification-area icon shows only partly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138198
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138201 in ubuntu "Kernel Panic Dapper LTS LAMP Server" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138201
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #137732 in soundconverter (universe) "soundconverter crashes when destination folder contains a space" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137732
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #138200 in ltsp (main) "ltsp ldm does not start properly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138200
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #138202 in debconf (main) "dpkg-preconfigure crashed with SIGSEGV in Perl_gv_handler()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138202
[11:08] <ubotu> New bug: #138204 in ltsp (main) "ltsp-build-client and ltsp-update-image fails if inetd.conf is not cleared" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138204
[11:08] <ubotu> New bug: #138205 in knetworkmanager (main) "[gutsy]  knetworkmanager does not ask for password for encryped networks" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138205
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #138208 in liferea (main) "Lifera only saves state on clean exit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138208
[11:17] <ubotu> New bug: #138209 in stage (universe) "broken dependencie: stage needs player" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138209
[11:17] <ubotu> New bug: #138211 in liferea (main) "Saved searches can't search read items" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138211
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #138213 in gnome-python-extras (main) "please build gksu2 python module" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138213
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #138214 in compiz (main) "title bars and window borders missing in compiz fusion" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138214
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #138216 in openoffice.org (main) "MailmergeWizard crashes on LTSP5-Terminal" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138216
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #138217 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager fills log on start up until dhcdbd has started" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138217
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #138218 in alsa-driver (main) "no sound" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138218
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #138220 in restricted-manager (restricted) "unnecessary entry created in xorg.conf upon enabling nvidia driver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138220
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #138222 in coq (universe) "Please sync Coq 8.1pl1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138222
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #138224 in language-selector (main) "Language selector should allow selecting newly marked languages as the default immediately" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138224
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #138225 in gajim (universe) "clean install of gutsy and gajim throws a gnomekeyring.DeniedError" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138225
[11:57] <ubotu> New bug: #138223 in evolution (main) "Evolution cuts of printed contacts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138223
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #138226 in system-config-printer (main) "[gutsy]   Samba settings not saved when editing printer location" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138226
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #138227 in ubuntu "mute multimedia button in macbook doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138227
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #138228 in acpi-support (main) "asus switch video hotkey" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138228
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #138230 in gnome-panel (main) "I can't setup success this sound card.I can't hear the sound.my computer is IBM z61t.can you help me??how can I do?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138230
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #138231 in xsane (main) "xsane removed after last update due to libgimp version conflict" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138231
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #138232 in gnome-panel (main) "I can't setup success this sound card.I can't hear the sound.my computer is IBM z61t.can you help me??how can I do?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138232
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #138236 in totem (main) ""Help->Report a problem" navigates to incorrect URL" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138236
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #138233 in ubuntu "After install cant restart GRUB Error 21" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138233
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #138237 in ksystemlog (main) "KSystemLog crashes when I launch pptp connection" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138237
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #138238 in ubuntu "Typo when desktop effects could not be enabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138238
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #138239 in ubuntu "Inactive QT applications request attention after switching workspaces" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138239
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #138240 in apertium (universe) "apertium depends in liblttoolbox-1.0.0 which isn't in the archive anymore" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138240
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #138241 in ubuntu "acroread reports wrong ELF class for libXcomposite.so.1 on amd64" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138241
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #138242 in ubuntu "Voodoo 3 card losing capabilities on Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138242
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #138243 in vnstat (universe) "Traffic usage statistics wrong" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138243
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #138245 in file-roller (main) "File Roller 2.19.92 do not ask passwords" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138245
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #138251 in bluez-utils (main) "autopkgtest gutsy bluez-utils: erroneous package!" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138251
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #138249 in tracker (main) "trackerd should be run with ionice -c 3 " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138249
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #138252 in openoffice.org (main) "Office Open XML (OOXML) is not associated with OpenOffice.org, opens with File roller" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138252
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #138253 in pidgin (main) "No GoogleTalk with Pidgin" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138253
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #138254 in totem (main) "totem in start crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138254
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #138255 in texlive-extra (main) "missing landscape.sty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138255
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #138257 in ubuntu "CDRW drive tray opens, but then bites my fingers." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138257
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #138258 in ubuntu "Formatting encrypted partitions on LVM during install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138258
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138259 in krusader (universe) "krusader installs menu for sudo only" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138259
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #138261 in pidgin (main) "(gutsy) pidgin unable to make buddy window narrower" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138261
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #138262 in evolution (main) "focus stays on format drop-down menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138262
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #138263 in cupsys (main) "[gutsy]  invalid access rights for cupsys" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138263
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #138264 in zenity (main) "the list mode doen't work well with shell variables" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138264
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #138265 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "Nspluginwrapper depencies should be updated" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138265
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #126040 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_mutex_lock()" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126040
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #138268 in crystalspace (universe) "walktest fails to load" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138268
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #138269 in tk-brief (universe) "tk-brief dependencies should be changed to allow texlive" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138269
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #138270 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  VBOs broken (x3100, intel)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138270
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #138271 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Wireless network don't work in ad-hoc mode with Atheros AR5212 since kernel 2.6.15-27-386" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138271
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #138273 in debian-installer (main) "Keyboard to be out of work in the 7.04 LIve CD or install op.system (dup-of: 138272)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138273
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #138272 in debian-installer (main) "Keyboard to be out of work in the 7.04 LIve CD or install op.system" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138272
[05:37] <ubotu> New bug: #138274 in dolphin (main) "Dolphin does not remember view profile" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138274
[05:37] <ubotu> New bug: #138275 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  restart does not work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138275
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #138276 in ubuntu "Changing desktop effects setting moves all windows to the first virtual desktop/workspace" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138276
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #138277 in gnome-panel (main) "Gnome settings daemon doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138277
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #138279 in gthumb (main) "selecting 'include filename' adds files full path" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138279
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #138280 in gnomescan (universe) "Segfault on start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138280
[06:16] <ubotu> New bug: #138281 in update-manager (main) "update manager crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138281
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #138282 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Feisty doesn't recognize USB devices plugged in" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138282
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #138283 in wget (main) "[gutsy]  wget spanish localization typo - suigiente (should be: "siguiente")" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138283
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #138285 in update-manager (main) "latest feisty update error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138285
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #138286 in liferea (main) "liferea missing file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138286
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #138289 in totem (main) "player stops at random moments while playing a radio station. sometimes it plays whatever was playing previously." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138289
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #138290 in language-support-lv (main) "please add aspell-lv to language-support-lv" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138290
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #138296 in emacs22 (main) "mouse scroll does not work in emacs22" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138296
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138295 in cryptsetup (universe) "[UVFe]  upgrade to new upstream 1.0.5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138295
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138297 in ubuntu "Package request: YHC" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138297
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #138298 in davfs2 (universe) "davfs2 dpkg-reconfigure script seams to write group into /etc/davfs2/davfs2.conf incorrectly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138298
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #138299 in update-manager (main) ""upgrade pre-requists failed" : upgrade from feisty to gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138299
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #138300 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[gusty]  unable to dim lcd display to maximum level with fn keys" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138300
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #138303 in gnomp3 (universe) "gnomp3 crashes when mp3 file is played" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138303
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #138305 in ubuntu "Dell Optiplex 320 won't boot from live CD Gutsy (Tribe 5)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138305
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #138307 in unzip (main) "unzip manpage does not document -O and -I options" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138307
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #138309 in lighttpd (universe) "lighttpd crash on mixed EOL sequences in mod_cgi" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138309
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #138310 in lighttpd (universe) "lighttpd potential DoS crash in etag.c" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138310
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #138311 in gthumb (main) "can't print large multiple selection to printer 'PDF'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138311
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #138312 in bash (main) "[gutsy, completion]  dpkg-deb not getting filenames completed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138312
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #138313 in mtx (universe) "new upstream version of mtx requested." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138313
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #138314 in ubuntu "format mistake after copy and paste" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138314
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #138315 in apturl (universe) "Malformed .list files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138315
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #138306 in ubuntu "updating from 6.10 to 7.0.4 via internet has crash 3 times" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138306
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #138318 in gnome-audio (universe) "gnome-sound-properties hangs will error message" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138318
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138321 in ubuntu "black horizontal stripe across screen in X" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138321
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138322 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  Sound very quiet (Intel 82801G/ALC861)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138322
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #138323 in bzflag (universe) "BZFlag fails to load, no fonts available" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138323
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #138325 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Unable to mount root fs after upgrade to 2.6.22-11.32" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138325
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #138326 in ubiquity (main) "X8ubuntu install on usb pen drive (8GB) crashes " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138326
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #138330 in ubuntu "Some apps wont load when wireless is enabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138330
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138331 in tracker (main) "trackerd running under "user" after "user" logs out" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138331
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #138332 in gimp (main) "open cr2 canon raw" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138332
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #138333 in nginx (universe) "Package cannot be removed, plus possible security risk" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138333
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #138334 in coreutils (main) "cat file.gpg produce error in shell" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138334


 Yourself?
[07:05] <clobrano> I'm fine too :)
[07:45] <duflu> Morning clobrano
[09:35] <Wimpress> Morning desktopers o/
[09:36] <Wimpress> Laney: Well I got to the bottom of why Ubuntu MATE became Ubuntu GNOME and it is utterly bewildering.
[09:36] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1841957/comments/9
[09:36] <Wimpress> Not looking for an explaination, just closing the loop.
[09:37] <duflu> Morning Wimpress
[09:37] <Wimpress> o/
[09:37] <duflu> Quiet day I think
[09:37] <Wimpress> Excellent. I've basically been out of the office for a month with events and vacation. Big backlog...
[11:31] <Trevinho> Laney: do you think I could prepare a FFe on tracker? :)
[11:38] <didrocks> Trevinho: Laney is off todayn, he will be back on Monday
[11:39] <Trevinho> oh, yeah I noticed when going through the email backlog
[11:39] <Trevinho> thanks
[13:16] <kenvandine> Wimpress: wow... MATE became GNOME
[13:16] <kenvandine> Wimpress: funny bug
[15:02] <Wimpress> kenvandine: I'm here for your amusement kenvandine ;-)
[15:03] <kenvandine> Wimpress: :-p


[08:04] <pstolowski> mornings
[08:11] <pedronis> pstolowski: morning
[08:13] <mvo> hey pstolowski and pedronis
[08:13] <pedronis> pstolowski: when you have a moment could you review #6576 , is adding yet another attr merger, I wonder if it can reuse something or there is something to expose from else to avoid that
[08:13] <mup> PR #6576: cmd/snap, client, daemon, ifacestate: show a leading attribute of a connection <⛔ Blocked> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6576>
[08:13] <pedronis> *elsewhere
[08:13] <pstolowski> pedronis: looking at it right now
[08:13] <pedronis> thank you
[08:14] <pedronis> mvo: hi
[08:42] <pstolowski> pedronis: i think we avoided attrs merger after all; it was floating around in the interface hooks PRs concerning policy check, but it eventually got replaced by implementation using Attrer interface and Lookup method, which looks dynamic/static attrs up without merging them physically
[08:44] <pedronis> pstolowski: ah, I forgot
[08:44] <pstolowski> pedronis: re that PR i'm wondering if we shouldn't leave merging to the client (instead of doing it api-side), more future-proof in case we ever want to distinguish them if the cli grows some new options (e.g. "show me only attributes set by hooks")
[08:44] <pedronis> pstolowski: not sure, that sounds more like a debug thing
[08:45] <pedronis> an attriute could be set statically or dynamically
[08:45] <pedronis> it shouldn't matter too much
[08:45] <pedronis> from somebody looking from outside
[08:45] <mvo> pstolowski: hey, I remember you had a problem with check.DeepEqual going into a circular list and eating memory like crazy, what was the solution back then? it seems one of my tests has hit this now too
[08:46] <pstolowski> maybe, probably. just a remark, when we do that it's set in stone as far as api is concerned, harder to change
[08:46] <pstolowski> mvo: i've a fix proposed upstream, but upstream is silent. one sec
[08:47] <pedronis> pstolowski: those set are supposed to be disjoint, right?
[08:47] <pedronis> we don't let you override
[08:47] <pedronis> if I remeber correctly
[08:47] <pstolowski> pedronis: yes, we don't allow that
[08:47] <pedronis> pstolowski: so we have options
[08:47] <pstolowski> mvo: https://github.com/kr/pretty/pull/58
[08:47] <mup> PR kr/pretty#58: Fix infinite recursion when diffing structs with cycles <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/kr/pretty/pull/58>
[08:47] <pedronis> anyway
[08:48] <pedronis> pstolowski: like return a list of dynamic attr names
[08:48] <mvo> pstolowski: ta
[08:48] <pedronis> if needed
[08:48] <pstolowski> mvo: i made a comment on that in the trello card as well a while ago.. perhaps we should move this into our tree
[08:48] <pedronis> pstolowski: what I'm not sure though if the merging should happen in interface mgr or daemon
[08:48] <pedronis> but that we can always change
[08:51] <mvo> pstolowski: thank you!
[08:52] <pstolowski> mvo: i recently helped Chipaca with this fix as well.. so seems to be recurring problem with tests
[08:53] <mvo> pstolowski: yeah, I pinged in the PR again (the kr) one, but yeah, maybe we need to fork it :(
[08:56] <pstolowski> mvo: yeah that would be unfortunate. let me know if the fix helps
[09:25] <zyga> Hello
[09:26] <zyga> If this continues I will start filing mornings off :/
[09:27] <pstolowski> hey zyga, what happend?
[09:28] <zyga> Homework late, kitchen cleaning late, bed time late, morning early kids prep. ENOSLEEP
[09:29] <zyga> I woke up at 6 but fell asleep after kids went to school at 8
[09:51] <pstolowski> aha
[11:08] <pedronis> pstolowski: I did I think the last pass on 6562
[11:09] <pstolowski> pedronis: ok, looking, ta
[11:11] <pedronis> pstolowski: if the comments make sense, I can +1 it
[11:12] <pedronis> pstolowski: as we discussed we can explore the Timing interface idea in a followup
[11:18] <pedronis> #6572 needs a 2nd review
[11:18] <mup> PR #6572: cmd/snap-confine: populate enter_non_classic_execution_environment <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6572>
[11:18] <pedronis> (it's part of a refactoring chain)
[11:21] <pstolowski> pedronis: updated
[11:22] <pstolowski> ah, updating description of the PR
[11:28] <mvo> pstolowski: happy to look at the timings pr again as well, I'm excited about this (but I think I mentioned this before ;)
[11:28] <pstolowski> mvo: ty :)
[11:29]  * mvo just needs to finish his own PR first
[11:33]  * zyga is slowly starting to work now
[11:33] <zyga> mvo: I'll file the morning off
[11:34] <zyga> sorry, I just feel so tired today
[11:37] <zyga> https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6572 is an easy win
[11:37] <mup> PR #6572: cmd/snap-confine: populate enter_non_classic_execution_environment <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6572>
[11:49] <cachio> mvo, hey
[11:49] <cachio> is snapd 2.38 going to beta as well?
[11:51] <zyga> pstolowski: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6568 is green and has two reviiews
[11:51] <mup> PR #6568: overlord/snapstate: fix restoring of "old-current" revision config in undoLinkSnap <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6568>
[11:54] <pstolowski> zyga: thanks; im not sure if pedronis would like to take a look?
[11:55] <zyga> pstolowski: let's add him to the review
[12:01] <mvo> cachio: yeah, 2.38~pre1 for the snapd snap should go into beta as well, once 2.37.4 for the snapd snap is in candidate I will arrange that
[12:03] <mup> PR snapd#6577 opened: many: make Remodel() download everything first before installing <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6577>
[12:05] <cachio> mvo, ok, I'll ask about what's missing
[12:05] <cachio> I gave the +1 last friday
[12:11] <pedronis> pstolowski: zyga:  is there something deep going on in 6568 ?  (I don't think I need to review everything)
[12:12] <zyga> pedronis: I don't think so, just easier to get your qucik decision if you want to review it
[12:13] <pedronis> the problem there is more that nobody has told us of this bug, maybe people don't expect the behavior
[12:13] <pedronis> or maybe configure is not used a lot
[12:19] <mvo> cachio: thanks, I just double checked and put the right 2.37.4 of the snapd snap into the beta channel - once that is validated please move it to candidate
[12:33] <pstolowski> pedronis: i think the chances of hitting this were simply very very slim, not only you need to have configure hook, it also needs to change config to something new on refresh, and then you need to hit an error for undo to kick in
[12:33] <pedronis> pstolowski: anyway I added John to review it
[12:33] <pedronis> and removed myself
[12:33] <pstolowski> ok
[13:20] <zyga> mvo: do you have time for a quick review
[13:20] <zyga> https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6572
[13:20] <mup> PR #6572: cmd/snap-confine: populate enter_non_classic_execution_environment <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6572>
[13:20] <zyga> it is just taking a bit of code and wrapping it in a function
[13:28] <mvo> zyga: meeting(s) now, after that yes
[13:29] <mvo> zyga: thanks for looking into this why
[13:30] <zyga> mvo: I'll take the whole day off, I'm just 100% useless today
[14:52] <mup> PR snapd#6572 closed: cmd/snap-confine: populate enter_non_classic_execution_environment <Created by zyga> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6572>
[15:05] <dot-tobias> cjwatson: I just got this error on a LP builder while cloning a public Github repo: “Received HTTP code 407 from proxy after CONNECT” → couldn't find any forum entry, is this a known problem or should I just retry? Same snapcraft.yaml works fine on my local machine.
[15:06] <cjwatson> dot-tobias: I need a link to the build in order to say anything useful
[15:07] <cjwatson> Also we don't in general track Launchpad issues on the forum
[15:07] <dot-tobias> cjwatson: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/414273477/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_bionic_armhf_wpe-webkit-mir-kiosk_BUILDING.txt.gz
[15:07] <cjwatson> (Sometimes we post about major changes there)
[15:08] <cjwatson> dot-tobias: Right, so the proxy gives two hours of internet access to a build; this is a rough cut-off to reduce things like potential botnet impact
[15:08] <cjwatson> dot-tobias: The failure in this case was more than two hours into the build
[15:08] <cjwatson> dot-tobias: So you need to take steps to ensure that your pulls happen generally towards the start of the build process, or at least not over two hours in
[15:09] <cjwatson> dot-tobias: I think there are normally ways to do this by reordering parts
[15:09] <dot-tobias> cjwatson: Ok, that explains it. Unfortunately, the wpe-webkit just takes a lot of time to build and I can't build the github part before wpe-webkit (or it would fail to find the libs).
[15:09] <cjwatson> Can you use some kind of dummy part to pull it earlier and then have a subsequent part do the actual build?
[15:10] <cjwatson> This is slightly more snapcraft wizardry than I possess myself, but I think I've seen people doing that kind of thing ...
[15:10] <dot-tobias> cjwatson: May be an option, but I'll just put the checked-out tag in the snap source until the snap is finished. Just wanted to make sure its not something else 😊 Thanks!
[15:11] <cjwatson> OK
[15:28]  * cachio lunch
[15:39]  * zyga woke up and pushed master into https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6573
[15:39] <mup> PR #6573: cmd/snap-confine: call sc_should_use_normal_mode once <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6573>
[17:35] <sergiusens> mvo: kyrofa pinging you as I saw your conversation flow through, had this in draft for over a week as I couldn't get to editing it before shutting y computer down: http://blog.sergiusens.org/posts/broader-use-of-bases-for-snaps/
[17:37] <cjwatson> sergiusens: Ah, is LP going to need to look at build-base as well as base in order to work out what builder base images to dispatch to?  A bug would be appreciated if so to tell us what the priority order should be
[17:39] <sergiusens> cjwatson: I will let the snapd folks timeline that, as the feature is only relevant once `base: none` is implemented on their side
[17:39] <sergiusens> pedronis: mvo ^
[17:39] <cjwatson> sergiusens: (see https://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/launchpad/view/head:/lib/lp/snappy/model/snap.py#L620)
[17:40] <diddledan> do we know of any costs involved in layouts with many configured mounts?
[17:40] <diddledan> this is where I'm heading... https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/G7thrJLE/
[17:40] <ijohnson> diddledan: it increases the call to apparmor_parser and generating the apparmor profile is proportional to the number of mounts last time I checked
[17:41] <diddledan> I'm wondering which is faster and less resource intensive for runtime: either mounting everything up the wazoo or a huge launcher script
[17:41] <ijohnson> diddledan: I think what you have there in that snippet is probably fine, I tried it with over 1000 layouts specified and apparmor crashed :-(
[17:42] <diddledan> oops :-p
[17:42] <ijohnson> I think layouts would be faster because you only pay that apparmor cost once, and then it's like those files are already there
[17:42] <diddledan> I'm thinking about adding some of those into the gnome extension, you see, so I want to be sure it's better
[17:42] <ijohnson> (because they are)
[17:42] <diddledan> cc/ sergiusens
[17:43] <sergiusens> diddledan: you should cc cmatsuoka and kenvandine instead 🙂
[17:43] <diddledan> roger :-p
[17:43]  * sergiusens is a plasma user
[17:43] <diddledan> haha
[17:44] <sergiusens> where less hacks are needed
[17:45] <diddledan> this is my untested (yet) new launch script for mycroft - MUCH shorter! https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Vn6kaHm3/
[17:47]  * cmatsuoka is a gnome user, but agrees with sergiusens
[17:48] <mvo> sergiusens: my memory is a bit hazy but I thought we said that snapcraft could simply script "base: none" from the snapcraft.yaml when generating the snap.yaml, am I misremembering that?
[17:48] <sergiusens> mvo: that's for "base: core"
[17:49] <sergiusens> base: none is an internally generated empty squashfs handled by snapd
[17:49] <sergiusens> more useful for types base, snapd, kernel and gadget
[17:49] <sergiusens> mvo: my post is short, skim through it :-)
[17:53] <mvo> sergiusens: sorry, I was just reading to the last backscroll item, didn't see the other lines, I have the blog post now
[17:53] <sergiusens> mvo: we had two discussions in parallel, one for use of base for other snap types and its implication and the other was how to get around core16 not being ready (which we agreed to support by allowing `base: core` in snapcraft.yaml and stripping it out from snap.yaml)
[17:54] <sergiusens> mvo: cjwatson https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1819196
[17:54] <mup> Bug #1819196: support for base: none and build-base <Launchpad itself:New> <Snapcraft:Triaged> <snapd:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1819196>
[17:54] <cjwatson> ta
[17:54] <mvo> sergiusens: thanks, I ponder over base: none, hopefully not too much work on our side
[17:55] <diddledan> error: cannot validate snap "mycroft": layout "/opt/mycroft" uses invalid bind mount source "$SNAP_USER_COMMON/mycroft-core": reference to unknown variable "$SNAP_USER_COMMON"
[17:55] <diddledan> aww
[17:55] <diddledan> no fair :-p
[17:55] <sergiusens> mvo: what i think was agreed to be a lot of work is supporting base for kernel and gadget
[17:56] <sergiusens> base: none for a snap type of app shouldn't be that much work (just logic to generate an empty snap on the fly instead of downloading it from the store)
[17:57] <sergiusens> anyways, lp and snapcraft need to wait for base: one to become a thing before we can do any work on that specific item
[17:58] <sergiusens> for "base: core" in snapcraft.yaml I can work on now and IIRC from conversations, base: core is mapped in launchpad already
[17:58] <sergiusens> ant that requires no work on snapd
[17:59] <cjwatson> LP doesn't *have* to wait, but it may be wise to in case the definition changes
[17:59] <cjwatson> base: core is dispatched to xenial base images and snapcraft from apt, yes
[17:59] <cjwatson> same as no base
[17:59] <sergiusens> cjwatson: right, it is the reason snapcraft waits too 🙂
[18:01] <sergiusens> cjwatson: hmm, base: core needs to be dispatched to the snap though. I will look into where I slipped up in communication there as "base: core" is not even allowed today.
[18:01] <cjwatson> err let me check what we actually did
[18:02] <cjwatson> OK, indeed, base: core is dispatched to apt
[18:03] <cjwatson> I mean, mainly by coincidence since we just needed a name for the default
[18:04] <cjwatson> I'm at EOD but send me email or whatever with what the situation is actually supposed to be and I'll fix up the DB on Monday
[18:04] <sergiusens> cjwatson: yeah, and I misread your statement. I will log a bug, thanks
[18:05] <cjwatson> if "base: core" were dispatched to the snap then there'd be no difference between it and core16 from LP's point of view
[18:05] <cjwatson> perhaps that's how it should be, I dunno
[18:06] <sergiusens> cjwatson: yes, that is the proposal to get around the lack of a core16 coming anytime soon
[18:06] <sergiusens> and it is all confusing as core is a base when at the same time, it is not
[18:06] <sergiusens> I'll work it out in the bug, just EOD in peace
[18:10] <cjwatson> will do :)
[18:58] <mup> PR snapcraft#2494 closed: sources: handle network request errors <Created by cmatsuoka> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2494>
[19:04] <mup> PR snapcraft#2492 closed: store: handle invalid snap file errors <Created by cmatsuoka> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2492>
[19:16] <mup> PR snapcraft#2482 closed: docs: update pull request template <Created by sergiusens> <Closed by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2482>
[19:19] <mup> PR snapcraft#1720 closed: kernel plugin: introduce kernel-channel to select from which channel … <Created by piso77> <Closed by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1720>


[01:13] <mdz> Mithrandir: do you have a working build you could provide to davidm to install his Q1 Ultra?
[01:14] <Mithrandir> mdz: not offhand, but I could whip up one
[01:15] <mdz> Mithrandir: are any of the ones published on cdimage usable?
[01:16] <Mithrandir> I don't think so, no.
[01:40] <mdz> agoliveira: how about you?  do you have a known good image on hand?
[01:41] <agoliveira> mdz: Sorry, no. I don't keep old images here and the last one wasn't booting right on the Q1.
[01:56] <amitk> mdz: with the changes to image creator, everybody was required to delete old projects. So, no images.
[01:57] <Mithrandir> amitk: that change has not hit gutsy, fwif
[01:57] <Mithrandir> -f+w
[02:01] <amitk> Mithrandir: the projects didn't become unusable due to change in platform-name?
[02:02] <Mithrandir> the platform name hasn't changed in gutsy; I haven't uploaded the new mic from moblin.org
[02:02] <Mithrandir> (last time I checked, it didn't have any functionality we wanted)
[02:05] <amitk> Mithrandir: aah, I use mic from git.
[02:05] <Mithrandir> that'd explain it.
[02:06] <amitk> Mithrandir: do you have a working kernel config for mccaslin (samsung)? I want to be sure I don't miss out any DRI or other options
[02:07] <Mithrandir> amitk: not a working lpia one, no.  It's traditionally used the -generic kernel, iirc.
[02:09] <amitk> Mithrandir: i386-ume actually which was stripped down version of i386-generic. Handcrafting .config files into the build system is not fun....
[02:10] <Mithrandir> amitk: ugh.
[02:20] <mjg59> mccaslin needs lum and lrm as well
[02:20] <mjg59> I think they're missing at the moment?
[02:20] <amitk> mjg59: have a working kernel config handy?
[02:21] <mjg59> amitk: Nope
[02:21] <mjg59> But the machine's capable enough that the -generic from i386 is fine
[02:21] <mjg59> Overkill, but fine :)
[02:21] <amitk> mjg59: those are missing... I have added lum, not done lrm yet
[02:21] <mjg59> Thanks
[02:23] <mjg59> Is the application menu actually working for anyone at the moment?
[02:23] <mjg59> Mine just lists "Extras" and then has 5 entries
[02:24] <Mithrandir> so does mine
[02:33] <agoliveira> Ditto (last working image)
[02:33] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: Is Loic going to work on UME as well?
[02:33] <Mithrandir> yes, part-time.
[02:34] <Mithrandir> (part-time on desktop tasks)
[02:35] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: Hmmm... have to ask Matt to update me on that. Suddenly lot's of people showing up :)
[02:37] <Mithrandir> agoliveira: it's been on the calendar for a while, but yeah, I'm sure you'll get an update on it later today.
[02:39] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: I was aware of the changes, of course, I meant about who's going to do exactly what now nad, of course, a bit of awe with all the people showing up at once :)
[02:43] <Mithrandir> agoliveira: oh, the who's going-to-do-what is still slightly up in the air, but we're trying to work it out as people come in.
[02:45] <Mithrandir> agoliveira: how's the tools for the theme handling going?  AIUI, the new theme is blocked on that?
[02:46] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: Yes, I sent a test for Ken but didn't work well. I'm fixing it and will send another test later today.
[02:46] <Mithrandir> sounds good.
[03:25] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: Is anyone currently working on cleaninng openoffice's interface for UME?
[03:25] <Mithrandir> agoliveira: not that I know of, no.
[03:32] <mjg59> Doing so would be... interesting
[03:35] <agoliveira> mjg59: You do have som quite weird concept for "interesting". I was thinking more in the lines of a 7th circle of hell :)
[04:28] <amitk> Mithrandir: what is the quickest way to replace the kernel in the .img file from mic?
[04:38] <agoliveira> Mithrandir, amitk: Have any of you tried to run openoffice on crownbeach? I would like to know how long it takes to start.
[04:39] <StevenK> agoliveira: Do you want the answer in minutes, or hours? :-P
[04:39] <agoliveira> StevenK: eons is fine :)
[04:39] <StevenK> :-D
[04:42] <amitk> agoliveira: I am not that crazy yet....
[04:43] <amitk> Mithrandir, mjg59, agoliveira: care to test the lpiacompat .debs on your samsungs?  Find them at http://people.ubuntu.com/~amitk/
[04:43] <agoliveira> amitk: The boss asked for a test and as you and Tollef are the ones with crownbeaches, thew honors are all yours :)
[04:44] <amitk> agoliveira: can't do it today, got a new flavour to get working... tomorrow perhaps.
[04:44] <agoliveira> amitk: Sure.
[04:44] <agoliveira> 2X
[05:02] <mjg59> amitk: Seems ok
[05:02] <mjg59> Except my /bin has vanished for some reason
[05:02] <mjg59> But I can't see how that could be the kernel's fault, so...
[05:03] <StevenK> agoliveira: For future reference, I'll be connected all of the time, just /away'd when I'm sleeping, drunk, dead, etc ...
[05:03] <amitk> mjg59: thanks.
[05:04] <mjg59> I'll reinstall properly when there's an image with that in
[05:04] <mjg59> Thanks!
[05:04] <agoliveira> StevenK: Cool. Just remind to use /ressurect when you return... from dead :)
[05:04] <StevenK> No, that's what Soulstones are for. :-P
[05:08] <mdz> does anyone have a kernel .deb with the fixes from ubuntu git? amitk?
[05:08] <amitk> mdz: ^^^^
[05:12] <agoliveira> amitk: The kernel seems to be fine here.
[05:12] <amitk> agoliveira: thanks
[05:30] <amitk> Mithrandir, mjg59: do we care about apparmour security on lpia? Or can it disable the module?
[05:36] <amitk> Mithrandir: mjg59, agoliveira_lunch: mdz: LUM also available there now.. give it a spin
[05:36] <mdz> amitk: oh, thanks
[05:37] <mdz> amitk: do you have an LRM as well?
[05:38] <amitk> mdz: working on it
[05:42] <mdz> amitk: the console problem is still there; does this kernel have the vm86 fix?
[05:42] <mjg59> mdz: Hm. Worked for me.
[05:42] <mdz> oh, I've still booted the old kernel
[05:43] <mdz> what's the trick?
[05:43] <mjg59> mdz: Are you sure you booted into the new kernel? Unless you mount /dev/sda1 as /boot, it won't go anywhere grub looks at
[05:43] <mdz> thanks
[05:43] <mdz> (is there a bug filed about that?)
[05:43] <mjg59> And then you need to hack menu.lst by hand and replace root=whatever with boot=disk
[05:47] <mdz> mjg59: works, thanks
[05:52] <mdz> agoliveira_lunch: midbrowser in the current build still has drop-down menus
[05:52] <mdz> oh, they vanish after a few seconsd
[05:52] <mdz> xterm doesn't launch for some reason
[05:54] <Mithrandir> amitk: apparmor> not important at this point at least.
[05:54] <amitk> Mithrandir: removed :)
[06:12] <agoliveira> mdz: You had menus on MID that vanished? Weird...
[09:14] <amitk> mjg59: you only need madwifi in LRM, right? no ipw3945?
[09:15] <mjg59> amitk: Suspect it depends whether we're just targetting the Q1, or whether there's any desire to potentially support other UMPCs at some stage
[09:15] <mjg59> I only need madwifi, though
[09:16] <amitk> I haven't heard of anything containing ipw yet. I'll disable it for now.
[09:45] <amitk> mjg59, agoliveira, mdz, Mithrandir: Please help yourselves to lpiacompat and lpia kernel, LUM and LRM packages from people.ubuntu.com/~amitk
[09:45] <mjg59> amitk: Thanks!
[09:45] <mjg59> That'll be in the next upload?
[09:46] <amitk> mjg59: yes. Let me know how it works for you.
[09:46] <mjg59> Excellent. Thanks very much!
[09:47] <agoliveira> amitk: Maybe you should post on the UME ML so the Intel people can test as well.
[09:47] <amitk> agoliveira: hmm... good idea
[11:52] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> amitk: ?
[11:53] <amitk> HappyCamp_ubuntu: hi
[11:53] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> What did your email mean for LPIA?  lpiacompat?
[11:53] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> Is that just the kernel?
[11:53] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> I'm confused.
[11:53] <amitk> yes... didn't i say the keyword "kernel" there?
[11:54] <amitk> :)
[11:54] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> amitk: Not that I noticed.
[11:54] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> So do  I need to change the FSET in Moblin Image Creator?
[11:55] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> Should I install this special kernel for a McCaslin system?
[11:55] <amitk> For mccaslin yes... you should be using the lpiacompat kernels for samsungs now. But you can wait until tomorrow
[11:56] <amitk> It will fix the blinking screen, inability to get to console, etc.
[11:56] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> Sweet :)  ToddBrandt read what has been said here.
[11:57] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> amitk: we have been seeing that funkyness.  It was strange.  If I booted my LiveUSB image from the USB hub then it worked. amitk
[11:57] <robr> amitk: so what's causing the issue with the blinking screen any ways?
[11:57] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> But plugged directly into the system it failed amitk
[11:57] <ToddBrandt> amitk: ahhh, so my samsung isn't crazy
[11:58] <robr> rustyl: see what amitk has to say about the lpiacompat kernel ;-)
[11:58] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> amitk: So question.  What will be the name of the package that I need to install?  kernel-lpiacompat ?
[11:59] <rustyl> what do i install?
[11:59] <amitk> ooooh... lots of intel people ganging up :-p
[11:59] <amitk> hold on
[12:00] <amitk> From http://people.ubuntu.com/~amitk/  : linux-image-2.6.22-13-lpiacompat_2.6.22-13.40_lpia.deb, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-lpiacompat_<IP_ADDRESS>-13.5_lpia.deb, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-13-lpiacompat_2.6.22-13.33_lpia.deb
[12:00] <amitk> that should even get wireless on the samsungs working
[12:00] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> amitk: how long until that hits ports.ubuntu.com ?
[12:01] <amitk> The kernel upload is being worked on today (US time). So I guess it will hit ports tomorrow. I will keep you posted.
[12:01] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> Thanks!  I appreciate it.
[12:04] <rustyl> ok, downloading
[12:31] <rustyl> amitk, i just tried the lpiacompat deps
[12:31] <rustyl> amitk, but the boot fails to mount the squashfs image
[12:33] <mjg59> rustyl: Make sure it's passing boot=disk rather than root=foo
[12:33] <rustyl> let me see what's happening
[12:34] <rustyl> looks like the squashfs module is not loaded
[12:35] <mjg59> Hm. They work fine for me.
[12:35] <mjg59> (Q1)
[12:35] <mjg59> Oh - did you install linux-ubuntu-modules as well?
[12:35] <mjg59> Otherwise you won't get squashfs
[12:35] <rustyl> mjg59, yes
[12:35] <rustyl> the module is in the resulting filesystem
[12:35] <mjg59> Odd.
[12:36] <rustyl> but it's not being added to the initial ram disk
[12:36] <rustyl> let me see if somebody did something evil to the image creation step
[12:51] <rustyl> FYI for anyone that cares... we don't seem to pick up any of the modules in /lib/modules/*/ubuntu (where by 'pickup' i mean the initramfs tools are not copying the files into the initial ramdisk)


[06:30] <rlgod> Hating ATI right now
[07:32] <philipballew> HansLanda, whats up
[07:33] <philipballew> how can I help
[07:33] <HansLanda> i made this command...and returned this...look
[07:33] <HansLanda> sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[07:33] <HansLanda> http://pastebin.com/NEz1BTsw
[07:34] <philipballew> why are you working with that
[07:35] <philipballew> whats the need?
[07:36] <HansLanda> i cant find my wlan0
[07:36] <HansLanda> it seems to be the eth1
[07:36] <HansLanda> but there is eth1 and wlan0 with the same mac
[07:37] <philipballew> what does ifconfig say
[07:38] <HansLanda> can i paste here?
[07:39] <philipballew> try pasebin
[07:39] <philipballew> someimes they yell at me
[07:40] <Snicksie> please paste in pastebin - its easier to read ;)
[07:40] <ApOgEE> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:40] <HansLanda> http://pastebin.com/y8LyBhNJ
[07:41] <philipballew> i would imagine eth1 might be the wifi
[07:42] <philipballew> does nm not show an interface>
[07:43] <HansLanda> i want to change my mac adresss but i cant...thats the final problem
[07:43] <philipballew> HansLanda, what gui are you runing?
[07:43] <Snicksie> you should be able to change your macadress with macchanger (its a commandline tool)
[07:44] <philipballew> Snicksie, do you think thats the problem
[07:44] <Snicksie> nope :)
[07:44] <HansLanda> ubuntu 11.04, gnome 2....
[07:44] <HansLanda> yes...but the command macchanger returns error
[07:44] <Snicksie> << gone
[07:45] <philipballew> HansLanda, have you always had this problem?
[07:45] <ApOgEE> HansLanda: try commenting line 17 from http://pastebin.com/NEz1BTsw and see if wlan0 pops up
[07:45] <HansLanda> i installed ubuntu about 3 days ago
[07:46] <HansLanda> i was with opensuse
[07:47] <philipballew> ok. sweet
[07:47] <HansLanda> man...im very new on this...i cant tell many things...can you show me some commands than i paste
[07:47] <philipballew> lets do this
[07:47] <philipballew> do what ApOgEE said
[07:52] <HansLanda> http://pastebin.com/nf0jCesn
[07:52] <philipballew> try lspci -vvv
[07:53] <HansLanda> http://pastebin.com/SXPEL6vH
[07:54] <ApOgEE> HansLanda: did you edit your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules before?
[07:54] <HansLanda> no
[07:54] <HansLanda> http://pastebin.com/SXPEL6vH
[07:56] <HansLanda> anyone can ssh?
[07:56] <HansLanda> hey philipballew http://pastebin.com/SXPEL6vH
[07:56] <ApOgEE> anyway, is eth1 working?
[07:57] <HansLanda> i think so...didnt try yet
[07:57] <ApOgEE> HansLanda: if eth1 is working, it is just because the driver found it as eth1. there is others have the same issue
[07:57] <HansLanda> just connecting with eth0
[07:58] <ApOgEE> you may try to connect using eth1 for wireless
[07:58] <HansLanda> and why cant i change my mac adress?
[07:58] <ApOgEE> HansLanda: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/wlan0-recognized-as-eth1-please-help-879499/
[07:58] <ApOgEE> HansLanda: why would you want to change your mac address?
[07:59] <ApOgEE> if you want to change your mac address, you may do it in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:00] <ApOgEE> HansLanda: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/
[08:00] <HansLanda> and what is the command to change...without editing it in /etc.....
[08:01] <ApOgEE> use ifconfig
[08:01] <ApOgEE> HansLanda: man ifconfig
[08:01] <ApOgEE> for more details
[08:02] <HansLanda> hans@omerta:~$ sudo macchanger --mac 00:00:00:00:00:00 eth1
[08:02] <HansLanda> [sudo] password for hans:
[08:02] <HansLanda> Current MAC: 78:e4:00:8e:39:61 (unknown)
[08:02] <HansLanda> ERROR: Can't change MAC: interface up or not permission: Too many open files in system
[08:03] <HansLanda> notebook dell Intel Core 2 Duo T6600 @2.20GHz  3gb of ram, ubuntu 11.04
[08:03] <ApOgEE> you may try $ sudo ifconfig eth1 down; sudo ifconfig eth1 hw ether XX:XX:new:mac:XX:XX; sudo ifconfig eth1 eth1 up;
[08:04] <ApOgEE> you may try $ sudo ifconfig eth1 down; sudo ifconfig eth1 hw ether XX:XX:new:mac:XX:XX; sudo ifconfig eth1 up;
[08:04] <HansLanda> hans@omerta:~$ sudo ifconfig eth1 hw ether 00:11:22:33:44:55
[08:04] <HansLanda> SIOCSIFHWADDR: Too many open files in system
[08:05] <ApOgEE> it should work if the device driver supports this operation
[08:05] <ApOgEE> HansLanda: do you have too many open files?
[08:05] <ApOgEE> lsof
[08:05] <ApOgEE> to see
[08:07] <HansLanda> man...i did the command...well...there is a lot of things...console coudnt show all
[08:07] <ApOgEE> lol
[08:08] <ApOgEE> close some and try again.
[08:08] <HansLanda> but i dont have any programs opened here...
[08:08] <HansLanda> ps ax and pastebin?
[08:10] <ApOgEE> to make it simpler, just restart your pc and see if there will be too many open files again
[08:10] <ApOgEE> i doubt it is due to your previous commands that didn't work well
[08:12] <HansLanda> i will reboot...just a min
[10:17] <KinkyPinkie> Hey! Anyone know where the alias-file lies? I read that I have to create a ~/.profile but afaik "cd", "mv" etc are aliases already defined somewhere.
[10:18] <bioterror> ~% which cd                                                                                .:12:46:11 on 11-10-25:.
[10:18] <bioterror> cd: shell built-in command
[10:18] <KinkyPinkie> cd as in change directory? Maybe I'm just reading an outdated howto
[10:24] <KinkyPinkie> nvm my question, I found another howto that answered :) thanks for the help tho:)
[10:31] <geirha> *sigh* why do people write crap like "put aliases in .profile". It's just plain wrong and won't work.
[10:33] <ApOgEE> owh, I'm late to the party... aliases suppose to be in ~/.bashrc
[10:33] <geirha> Indeed
[11:37] <Newbster> I tried to install Ubuntu on a 2 year old macbook pro, but it can't find the wifi network. Does anyone know if there are any drivers that might fix this?
[11:38] <bioterror> !macbookpro
[11:38] <ubot2> Factoid 'macbookpro' not found
[11:38] <bioterror> GRRR
[11:38] <bioterror> !macbook
[11:38] <ubot2> For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[11:38] <Newbster> thank you. I will try tonight
[12:17] <s-fox> Hello.
[12:22] <stlsaint> s-fox: HEYO o/
[12:22] <s-fox> How are you stlsaint ?
[12:23] <stlsaint> hanging in there, yourself?
[12:25] <s-fox> I'm alive
[12:27] <stlsaint> aye always good
[12:59] <coalwater> i want to post a bug but i'm not sure if it should be under unity or under compiz
[13:08] <coalwater> hey IAmNotThatGuy are u busy?
[13:11] <IAmNotThatGuy> coalwater, Nope
[13:11] <IAmNotThatGuy> packing things
[13:16] <sirsean1227> anyone?
[13:20] <Brutus-> howdy
[13:21] <sirsean1227> whats up
[13:21] <sirsean1227> you know much about this new login manager?
[13:21] <sirsean1227> brutus?
[13:29] <holstein> sirsean1227: you mean lightdm?
[13:30] <holstein> sirsean1227: if you get a minute, check out the /topic :)
[13:48] <sirsean1227> you there?
[13:48] <sirsean1227> holstein,  Yes, i do mean lightdm
[13:48] <holstein> i like it... i think it looks slick, and it seems light
[13:49] <sirsean1227> holstein,  i took a look at the .conf
[13:49] <sirsean1227> holstein,  and i dont see where i can change the resolution
[13:50] <sirsean1227> holstein,  you there?
[13:50] <sirsean1227> brb cig
[13:51] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/832720
[13:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 832720 in lightdm "screen resolution cannot be set with lightdm (dup-of: 602505)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[13:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 602505 in lightdm "Support Init, PreSession and PostSession script hooks" [High,Fix released]
[13:53] <sirsean1227> holstein, Thanks
[13:53] <sirsean1227> holstein,  so it looks like i will wait
[13:53] <sirsean1227> :(
[13:54] <sirsean1227> holstein,   I wish the Devs would think about such simple things
[13:54] <sirsean1227> but they are to busy reinventing the wheel
[13:55] <holstein> well, you can run another login manager
[13:55] <coalwater> ok IAmNotThatGuy i want you try something
[13:55] <holstein> its still early for lightDM
[13:55] <sirsean1227> Thats true
[13:55] <sirsean1227> but why release it
[13:56] <holstein> you gotta start somewhere
[13:56] <sirsean1227> give people the option to download it if they want
[13:56] <holstein> thats the case right?
[13:56] <sirsean1227> yeah but not being able to adjust the resolution
[13:56] <sirsean1227> thats the first thing you should think about
[13:56] <holstein> yeah, but its simple
[13:56] <holstein> thats the point
[13:56] <holstein> i think
[13:56] <holstein> most folks dont care
[13:56] <sirsean1227> you can change the theme in it and the text DPI...
[13:57] <holstein> i wouldnt know
[13:57] <holstein> i only have lightdm running on one machine
[13:57] <holstein> and i just installed that yesterday
[13:57] <sirsean1227> you would think while that was being added they would have thought "hmmm tex dpi.... themes... ahhh resolution too"
[13:57] <holstein> otherwise, im using GDM on gnome2 in 10.04
[13:57] <holstein> sirsean1227: add yourself to that bug report
[13:58] <holstein> you can find who is developing lightdm and offer to help as well
[13:58] <sirsean1227> i dont right code
[13:58] <sirsean1227> write
[13:58] <holstein> +, im not sure you *cant* change the res
[13:58] <sirsean1227> oops
[13:58] <sirsean1227> i would be more of a test it guy
[13:58] <sirsean1227> i am really picky
[13:58] <holstein> sure, or you can pay a dev for them
[13:58] <holstein> or find one
[13:59] <sirsean1227> if they had me sitting next to them we would stomp OSX in 2 years
[13:59] <holstein> its all open software, so its "ours"
[13:59] <holstein> in theory
[13:59] <sirsean1227> yeah... Unity doesnt seem that way yet
[13:59] <holstein> yeah, but thats an opinion
[13:59] <sirsean1227> i can run little scripts and stuff
[13:59] <sirsean1227> but nothing major
[14:00] <holstein> im not an OSX fan, so its easy to stomp it for me
[14:00]  * holstein not a unity fan either
[14:00] <sirsean1227> i mean visually
[14:00] <holstein> still, thats opinion
[14:00] <holstein> you cant please everyone
[14:00] <sirsean1227> i dont really like the windows management in OSX or Unity
[14:00] <sirsean1227> window*
[14:00] <holstein> sure, but some folks really like it
[14:01] <holstein> i would say most dont care, notice, or care to notice
[14:01] <sirsean1227> i feel like you are trading one click for 4 or 5 clicks
[14:01] <holstein> i feel like no one is making a destkop anymore
[14:01] <sirsean1227> me too!
[14:03] <geirha> They should learn a bit more from Hollywood. People don't use a mouse, they type wildly on the keyboard to do stuff.
[14:05] <sirsean1227> so you are a command line guy
[14:06] <geirha> Just my impression of computer use in Hollywood movies. But yes, I mainly just need the desktop to be able to run a browser and terminal windows.
[14:07] <holstein> yeah, i have a server install for that, forcing me to learn the CLI
[14:08] <sirsean1227> i mainly use command to install packages or edit text files
[14:08] <geirha> One bad thing with Unity is that it doesn't work so well with sloppy focus
[14:08] <geirha> To get to the menubar of a program, you have to carefully move the mouse in a path so it doesn't touch any other windows on the way
[14:08] <sirsean1227> i hate it
[14:08] <holstein> yeah, its just not for me
[14:09] <holstein> its really improving quickly
[14:09] <sirsean1227> i dont know of anyone that likes it
[14:09] <holstein> yeah? i do
[14:09] <holstein> folks in my LUG
[14:09] <sirsean1227> you cant even move the dock for science sake
[14:09] <holstein> some folks that ive installed it for that fall into that catagory i mentioned earlier that dont notice
[14:10] <sirsean1227> i like my dock on the bottom
[14:10] <holstein> yeah, but if it were stuck there we'd be having a different conversation
[14:10] <holstein> customization will come
[14:10] <sirsean1227> i have a 54 inch tv to screen space is of no issue
[14:10] <sirsean1227> the ubuntu guy said they wont
[14:11] <sirsean1227> move it
[14:11] <geirha> "won't move it" and "won't allow it to be moved" is different...
[14:11] <sirsean1227> because the bloated menu needs to be in the "top left"
[14:11] <holstein> i dont know who 'they' are, or the 'ubuntu guy' either, but 'they' wont move it... it'l just be more customizable
[14:12] <sirsean1227> i think he was saying "wont allow it"
[14:12] <holstein> and as the code gets looked at, userland tweaks'll come around
[14:13] <sirsean1227> i am talking about the Canonical dude
[14:13] <sirsean1227> the rich guy
[14:13] <sirsean1227> i forgot his name
[14:13] <holstein> shuttleworth?
[14:14] <sirsean1227> yeah
[14:14] <sirsean1227> or their head developer
[14:14] <sirsean1227> i cant remember
[14:14] <holstein> well, either way, its not for me, but i would expect to see some decent customizations this cycle since its 12.04, the LTS
[14:14] <IAmNotThatGuy> coalwater, packing things man :[
[14:14] <sirsean1227> coalwater
[14:14] <sirsean1227> thats it
[14:15] <sirsean1227> maybe?
[14:15] <sirsean1227> oh
[14:15] <sirsean1227> ha
[14:15] <sirsean1227> wait
[14:15] <sirsean1227> hello coalwater
[14:16] <sirsean1227> the guy in this chatroom
[14:16] <sirsean1227> maybe i will try and get some devs together
[14:16] <sirsean1227> and start from scratch
[14:16] <sirsean1227> a sexy, usable distro
[14:17] <sirsean1227> all new stuff
[14:17] <holstein> you might want to get that started over in #ubuntu-beginners-team sirsean1227
[14:17] <holstein> this is more of a support channel
[14:17] <holstein> over there its more loose, OT friendly
[14:25] <coalwater> hey sirsean1227 sorry wasn't looking
[15:14] <aj__> guys i wanna contribute to ubuntu
[15:14] <aj__> where can i get started?
[15:15] <bioterror> what you want to do?
[15:15] <aj__> dunno but very good in c++,c and php
[15:16] <bioterror> good way to start contributing with coding skills is a bug squad for example
[15:16] <aj__> please give me the link
[15:16] <bioterror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Bugs
[15:16] <bioterror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Development
[16:16] <philipballew> If I give my laptop a static IP will is be unable to connect to some wifi networks?
[16:16] <bioterror> static ip to where?
[16:16] <bioterror> for what
[16:17] <philipballew> my laptop. give that a static ip. would that make it harder to connect to a wifi network
[16:18] <bioterror> usually wifi ap's uses dhcp
[16:18] <holstein> its not too much hassle to change that in the netmanager
[16:18] <holstein> in the GUI
[16:22] <philipballew> yeah
[16:22] <philipballew> holstein, I really need to learn how to do that not in the terminal sometime
[16:46] <moijes12> I am unable to add my name to the "Seeking guide " list.Please can somebody help ?
[16:52] <holstein> moijes12: sure... what are you talking about?
[16:53] <holstein> mentorship?... here? bugsquad?
[16:53] <holstein> maybe its just temporarily messed up at the site too
[16:58] <moijes12> Hey thanks for replying holstein.Well, I've been reading the pages for membership at the "ubuntu beginners team" ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Membership ). Now,  under section "Seeking Guide" it is written "If you would like to join the team and have not yet been sponsored by a Guide please add yourself to this table. " But how do I add my name to this list ? I already have a launchpad page and have joined ubuntu
[16:58] <moijes12> beginners team there
[16:58] <holstein> oh... edit the wiki?
[16:58]  * holstein looking
[17:01] <moijes12> one more question,is it necessary that I should have contributed in some way already in order to seek a guide or a mentor ?
[17:01] <holstein> moijes12: when you are logged in, and you might need to refresh the page... you hit the 'edit' button at the top of the page
[17:02] <holstein> moijes12: you can add yourself right after
[17:02] <holstein> "|| 20 || [[jfussion]]   || UTC +8 || <<DateTime(2011-10-01T18:13:01+0800)>> || || ||"
[17:07] <moijes12> ok.I'll do that.
[17:10] <moijes12> I'm a little confused here.Is this team for those members who "have contributed to ubuntu and wish to help beginners" OR those who "haven't yet contributed to ubuntu but wish to do so" ?
[17:23] <moijes12> holstein : thanks,I've added my name
[20:05] <asterismo_> hi people
[20:05] <asterismo_> i have a question
[20:07] <asterismo_> how do i set the "icons" only in menus, instead of "both-horiz" that used to appear in desktop>gnome>interface in gconf-editor??


[04:19] <ahoneybun> mhall119: make some shirts for SELF? http://teespring.com
[20:17] <ahoneybun> balloons: around?
[20:35] <balloons> ahoneybun, perhaps
[20:35] <ahoneybun> balloons: free to join a hangout?
[20:35] <balloons> not at the moment, but can chat
[20:38] <ahoneybun> trying to clear up when we will do the Kubuntu Show and Tell in a hangout
[20:39] <balloons> ahoneybun, ohh.. right, you never made a session though did you>
[20:39] <balloons> everything is scheduled
[20:40] <ahoneybun> oh
[20:40] <balloons> really need a session so we can get it on the schedule
[20:40] <ahoneybun> so there is no slots right?
[20:40] <balloons> weds or thursday we can sneak you in I think
[20:41] <ahoneybun> switch ever would do
[20:41] <ahoneybun> *which
[20:42] <balloons> can you register the meeting?
[20:42] <balloons> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/propose_meeting/
[20:47] <ahoneybun> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22517/plasma-5-demo/
[20:54] <ahoneybun> balloons: ^
[20:55] <balloons> ahoneybun, awesome approved. Pick a hole in the community track and we can slot it in there: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/2015-05-05/display
[20:56] <balloons> or pick a day / time you have to have and I can try and make it work
[20:57] <ahoneybun> balloons: thurs 18:00 - 18:55
[20:59] <ahoneybun> weds 19:00 ?
[21:00] <balloons> ahh, that one's easy
[21:00] <balloons> done
[21:01] <balloons> thanks for the session :-) sorry about the confusion, this is why it's important to have the meeting proposed so we don't loose it :--)
[21:01] <ahoneybun> sorry on my side
[21:03] <ahoneybun> balloons: kinda bad that we have the same timeslot as Kubuntu Kickoff sadly
[21:04] <balloons> what do you mean?
[21:04] <ahoneybun> same timeslot 19:00
[21:04] <balloons> ohh wow
[21:04] <ahoneybun> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/2015-05-06/display?
[21:04] <balloons> welp, should move it then eh?
[21:05] <balloons> can you do 1900 tomorrow?
[21:05] <ahoneybun> there is a slot on tuesday same time but I think our lead cannot make that time
[21:06] <balloons> can he make 1800 weds?
[21:07] <balloons> bah yea.. I don't think we can help it / change things.. it's hard at this point
[21:07] <ahoneybun> if you can make it work, yes it would be very good
[21:07] <balloons> we'll need to ask the ubuntu women if they will swap with you then
[21:10] <ahoneybun> ok I'll see if I can get a hold of someone
[21:10] <ahoneybun> thanks nic
[21:11] <balloons> ahoneybun, kk.. basically swap http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22475/community-1505-ubuntu-women-1510-blueprint/
[21:11] <ahoneybun> so it will work?
[21:34] <balloons> ahoneybun, have to see if belkinsa will swap
[21:34] <ahoneybun> ok
[21:41] <ovidiu-florin> hello world
[22:23] <ahoneybun> balloons: belkinsa says we can swap:   <belkinsa> Sure, ahoneybun.


[07:44] <lanoxx_> highvoltage, are you around
[07:47] <highvoltage> lanoxx_: yep!
[07:47] <highvoltage> lanoxx_: I *just* replied to your email
[07:47] <lanoxx_> highvoltage, haha thats fast :)
[07:47] <highvoltage> lanoxx_: yeah a bit of a coincidence that you pinged me at the same time hehe
[07:48] <highvoltage> lanoxx_: so, in a nutshell, I'm going to try on debian unstable on saturday.
[07:49] <lanoxx_> i have been thinking to try debian as well, it seems that on ubuntu for some reason building gnome stuff is extremely difficult
[07:50] <highvoltage> I don't know, I think those jhbuild dependencies might be wrong
[07:50] <lanoxx_> highvoltage, everytime i try to build something it litterally takes hours or days to setup everything such that there are no errors
[07:50] <lanoxx_> highvoltage, yes, possibly, but i dont know enough about jhbuild to verify it, i would expect to just type jhbuild build and it starting working away ^^
[07:51] <highvoltage> lanoxx_: I think we might run into that on debian too.
[07:51] <lanoxx_> highvoltage, hmm, it its a bug in the build dependencies than yes
[07:52] <lanoxx_> highvoltage, it seems your mail hasnt arrived here yet
[07:54] <highvoltage> lanoxx_: weird, yes I see it's not in the list archives yet. perhaps gnome list servers are running slow, will forward it to you directly so long and check back there later
[07:55] <highvoltage> (bbl)
[07:57] <lanoxx_> highvoltage, if required 2.5 means that it needs to have exactly 2.5, then the requirements are wrong i think, python should be backwards compatible and 2.5 is not even in the repositories as far as i know
[07:58] <lanoxx_> btw, are you also using the gnome-world-3.10 moduleset to build stuff?
[10:04] <lanoxx> highvoltage, re