[17:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:37] <BluesKaj> sivananda, just open all the repos in adept or use source-o-matic to regenerate your sources.list, then do a copy and paste after deleting the text in the original , save and sudo apt-get update. Then any restricted codecs required will be available in the new repos
[17:40] <sivananda> BluesKaj: Been there done that. The problem is that the .so file for the videodvd slave is missing on the system, and I can't seem to find any clear answer as to which package would have it. It's normally a part of kde...
[17:40] <sivananda> the audiocd slave is there, but not the dvd slave
[17:41] <sivananda> nosrednaekim: thanks for that, but I've also been thru those links already...
[17:41] <Fantacy> there are so many users and so much chating on main. how to follow up my chat easily?
[17:41] <nosrednaekim> sivananda: those were for me... :D
[17:42] <sivananda> nosrednaekim: ah ok... :D
[17:43] <sivananda> BluesKaj: sorry, both the .so and the .la files
[17:44] <BluesKaj> sivananda, sorry i don't have the pleasure 2 dvdrives so my knowledge is nil in that dept
[17:44] <sivananda> BluesKaj: ok, well thanks anyway...
[17:45] <sivananda> I suppose I could d/l a base kde package and extract the needed files... what a pita tho'... :(
[17:47] <BluesKaj> sivananda, a hint ...use k9copy , it will copy to temp dir then ask for a blank media after copying and write to the new dvd disk , all in ine step ...quite convenient
[17:48] <joseph> when i try to assign xlock as the program to run using ctrl+alt+L, it runs strangely.
[17:48] <joseph> i have to manually kill the process
[17:49] <nosrednaekim> joseph: thats the default shortcut for lock screen, if that makes any difference
[17:49] <joseph> yeah, i disabled that shortcut
[17:50] <joseph> because i'm having some other problem with kde's screen saver
[17:50] <sivananda> BluesKaj: thanks, but the issue I'm after isn't about ripping a dvd. I have several ways to do that which work fine. I just want the slave working in Konqueror. I like the convenience of being able to open the file browser and simply drag a video file to my desktop and have it rip and encode in one shot.
[17:50] <nosrednaekim> joseph: ah.. ok..... what problem were you having with the kde lock screen?
[17:50] <joseph> for some reason, the screen saver listing in kcontrol is empty.  not sure why.
[17:51] <BluesKaj> ok sivananda, gotcha
[17:51] <joseph> it may have gone empty after an update, but it's been working since i upgraded to gutsy
[17:52] <joseph> the maintainer of xscreensaver says the way that kde implements the screen saver is improper for some reason
[17:52] <sivananda> BluesKaj: I do appreciate your suggestions tho'. Thanks :)
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> joseph: hrm.... what happens with the kde screensaver? lock up?
[17:53] <joseph> no, it works
[17:53] <joseph> i just can't configure it
[17:53] <joseph> or change the screen saver
[17:53] <joseph> if i run kcontrol as root, i get the listing, though
[17:53] <joseph> so go figure
[17:54] <BluesKaj> well sivananda , k9copy is great at stripping DRM and code area info from dvds ,...sort of a linux version dvdshrink
[17:55] <sivananda> BluesKaj: I'm really kinda surprised that there's no one here with more familiarity with the kio slaves. They're incredibly useful. For example, the audiocd slave lets me browse a CD in Konqueror and it shows a number of 'virtual' folder views of the disk, each with the tracks shown in various formats, mp3, flac, etc., and I can just choose which format I want and drag the files to my...
[17:55] <sivananda> ...machine and it rips and encodes.
[17:55] <joseph> so for some reason, i can view the list of screen savers via kdesu, but not as a normal user
[17:56] <joseph> anyone know why that would be the case?
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> joseph: thats weird.... try #kde
[17:56] <joseph> heh
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> they ussually know a bit more about such things
[17:56] <BluesKaj> joseph, are you running the media scrn saver or slideshow ?
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[17:56] <spykedtomato> hey all - has anyone actually gotten gmail to work in konqueror and how? It always stops for me at the "Loading…" screen and won't go further... I have browser identification set to firefox 1.5 and have tried 1.0 as well...
[17:57]  * nosrednaekim uses pop with Gmail....
[17:58] <BluesKaj> sivananda, that's the first time i've heard of kioslaves , and i'm a kubuntu semi-noob
[17:58] <sivananda> !info kioslave
[17:58] <ubotu> Package kioslave does not exist in gutsy
[17:59] <sivananda> hmmm
[17:59] <hydrogen> kioslaves are pretty awesome
[17:59] <n33dhelp> wth is kubuntu?
[17:59] <hydrogen> its a krazy ubuntu
[17:59] <n33dhelp> omg!
[17:59] <n33dhelp> awsum
[18:00] <bazhang_> n33dhelp: stop spamming please
[18:00] <BluesKaj> spykedtomato, gmail works but it's not fully supported...my FF ID doesn't seem to work in gutsy like it did in Feisty
[18:00] <n33dhelp> What the fuck?
[18:01] <parabol0x> Why so hard on the n00blet?
[18:01] <spykedtomato> thanks BluesKaj
[18:01] <LjL> because being a newbie doesn't justifying behaving like an idiot
[18:02] <LjL> and if i had been hard, that would have been a ban anyway
[18:02] <bazhang_> he was spamming in ubuntu channel as well
[18:02] <parabol0x> Oh, OK then.
[18:03] <parabol0x> I've just noticed a tendency to be hard on the new kids and try to speak up for them from time to time.
[18:03] <parabol0x> This time, I was mistaken.
[18:03] <hydrogen> t.T
[18:03] <hydrogen> make sure you watch out for the underdawg!
[18:03] <bazhang_> hehe
[18:07] <BluesKaj> does anyone have any suggestions about getting Konq to run properly on sites like gmail instead of just basic html ?
[18:09] <zorglu_> !info vlc
[18:09] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 1134 kB, installed size 3228 kB
[18:09] <zorglu_> !info vlc feisty
[18:09] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[18:19] <gidna> hi
[18:19] <gidna> When I use tuxguitar I can't listen the audio of the other software..
[18:19] <lg188> hello
[18:20] <nosrednaekim> hello lg188
[18:21] <gidna> can you help me?
[18:21] <lg188> nosrednaekim any knowlegd of moparscape ?
[18:21] <nosrednaekim> gidna: it depends on your sound card.
[18:21] <nosrednaekim> lg188: eh? what? no... I dubt it
[18:21] <gidna> How can solve this problem?
[18:22] <jhutchins_lt> The image of crossing Crysler's quality control with the buggy old Netscape code....
[18:22] <jhutchins_lt> gidna: Can other programs share the audio output?
[18:22] <lg188> nosrednaekim: np ...
[18:22] <gidna> yes
[18:23] <gidna> only tuxguitar makes problems..
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins_lt: ahh... good point :D
[18:24] <jhutchins_lt> gidna: Probably it's a problem specific to that program then, and you should look for help on their forums or lists.  It sounds like the kubuntu system is working correctly.
[18:25] <BluesKaj> konq just wont render gmail except in basic html , all other sites seem to work fine , even yahoomail :(
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> hmmmm let me try with the kde4 konqueror
[18:26] <lg188> somebody knows moparscape ?
[18:27] <bazhang_> lg188: what is it?
[18:28] <lg188> bazhang_a beter version of runescape but i don't know how to play ...(i have heard a review from a friend)
[18:28] <BluesKaj> is it a gutsty bug or am i just not setting up the config browser ID properly
[18:29] <bazhang_> lg188: not sure then
[18:29] <lg188> bazhang_: np  i schould  wait
[18:30] <bazhang_> lg188: hard to though, right? sounds cool. :}
[18:30] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: You need to use the user agent for gmail in konwq
[18:30] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: I have konq identifying as Mozilla 1.7.3 on Windows XP and it works great. with gmail
[18:31] <lg188> somebody knows and plays moparscape ?
[18:31] <lg188> bazhang_::)
[18:31] <lg188> bazhang_: :)
[18:31] <BluesKaj> i have it set up as FF 1.5
[18:32] <bazhang_> user agent switcher is awesome in firefox vista/ie7 haha
[18:32] <sourcemaker> how can i start xserver twice?
[18:39] <skyfalcon866> !hardy
[18:39] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:40] <luke_> !KDE4
[18:40] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[18:41] <luke_> does anyone know how to get Konqueror/Nspluginviewer to wirk with Flash player 9.0.115?
[18:41] <luke_> It works fine with Firefox but crashes nspluginviewer
[18:43] <skyfalcon866> will kde4 make its way into gusty
[18:43] <ardchoille> skyfalcon866: iirc, the updates will be included.. I think in backports
[18:44] <yermaw> skyfalcon866: Is KDE 4 not due for Feb08?
[18:45] <sourcemaker> How to install a Nvidia GLX Card... ?
[18:45] <skyfalcon866> January 11 2008 it suppose to come out
[18:45] <ardchoille> !nvidia | sourcemaker
[18:45] <ubotu> sourcemaker: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:45] <sourcemaker> The kubuntu documentation does not work !!!
[18:45] <t3ch13> I need to know if anybody knows how Kubuntu works with the Intel 4965AGN wireless also the Nvidia Geforce 8400M video
[18:45] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: Which card do you have?
[18:45] <sourcemaker> NV 7600 GT
[18:45] <bazhang_> t3ch13: do you have the livecd? try it out and see--no install needed
[18:46] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[18:46] <t3ch13> I am going to buy a new laptop and I can't do the live thing
[18:47] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: yes... I did... result: API mismatch
[18:47] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: :(
[18:47] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: Got the kernel modules install?
[18:47] <bazhang_> t3ch13: have you checked linux on laptops website, or just generally on internet about this computer--that is how I chose my laptop
[18:48] <luke_> !nspluginviewer
[18:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginviewer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:48] <luke_> !konqueror
[18:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:48] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` | grep -i installed
[18:48] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: nvidia-kernel-common
[18:48] <luke_> rubbish
[18:49] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: installed
[18:50] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: Weird
[18:50] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: The card is also on the supported list
[18:51] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: Yes, I checked that before giving you instructions. Not sure why it isn't working.
[18:51] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: Did you use the restricted driver manager first?
[18:52] <lg188> somebody knows and plays moparscape ?
[18:54] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: yes
[18:54] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: but i have installed a new card... because my old one is legacy (geforce 3)
[18:54] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: That's what messed me up too. I did notice that after a system reinstall, using the command line method worked flawlessly
[18:54] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: maybe... there is a config mismatch
[18:55] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: You can try reconfiguring xorg and see if that helps
[18:55] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: how do that?
[18:55] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:55] <eshat> where do sources get installed, if i type apt-get source ???
[18:56] <eshat> !sourcde
[18:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcde - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:56] <eshat> !source
[18:56] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[19:13] <BluesKaj> nope, konq won't render gmail with all the features no matter what browser ID and user agent I try :(
[19:15] <jhutchins_lt> It's a limitation in Konq (I think in handling improper java script).
[19:17] <BluesKaj> it's a pi**off to me , jhutchins , otherwise I would dump FF in an instant..altho i do have gmail setup to forward messages to the kmail inbox , the fact that konq won't work bugs me :)
[19:28] <Eduardiyo> any soft to record what's doing in my pc?
[19:36] <ninjagambit> what html editors can you get with kubuntu
[19:36] <ninjagambit> bluefish?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> !html
[19:38] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages.  Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and KompoZer(Nvu).  For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[19:42] <Viper550> I can't believe it, the KDE4 packages you claim are RC1, are Beta 4!
[19:43] <ninjagambit> has anyone used screem
[19:43] <ninjagambit> and thanks :blueskaj
[19:53] <compbrain> Howdy folks. Anyone know if there is a problem with the current gutsy kubuntu-desktop metapackage? Any attempt to PXE install with it results in a libstreamanalyzer0 conflict
[19:53] <anto> Can somone help me... i totaly screwed up my gtk system so now i cannot run any programs that use gtk
[19:55] <anto> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: gdk_threads_add_idle
[19:55] <anto> /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: gdk_threads_add_idle
[20:05] <FlashWolf> is there some issue for compiz-settings-manager to work in kubuntu?
[20:07] <blekos> hi, i try to get into a directory that has a "." but i cannot see it from the command prompt
[20:08] <carwash^> ls -la will show hidden directories
[20:09] <blekos> thnx
[20:09] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone else name an alternate web browser for kde other than konqueror or firefox
[20:09] <gastu> hi
[20:10] <llutz> Paddy_EIRE: opera maybe
[20:10] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[20:10] <FlashWolf> Paddy_EIRE: opera
[20:10] <FlashWolf> too late...
[20:10] <Paddy_EIRE> llutz: good call llutz and FlashWolf
[20:11] <slav3_kitten>  *waves a paw*
[20:11] <gastu> i have configured the dualscreen on my kubuntu 1 monitor 1 tv everything seems to be fine excpet that videos played on the tv even in fullscreen are using the half of the tv the rest is black
[20:11] <gastu> someone got an idea?
[20:12] <Paddy_EIRE> firefox is segfaulting all over the place and konqueror seems to have difficulty with divx streams
[20:12] <Paddy_EIRE> perhaps opera is the answer until I work my way through those probs
[20:12] <genii> seamonkey
[20:12] <blekos> hi, i try to locate/run thunderbirds profile manager
[20:13] <blekos> but i only find a .mozilla-thunderbird folder
[20:13] <Paddy_EIRE> maybe that will segfault too genii as ff and seamonkey are so similar
[20:13] <genii> Hmm
[20:13] <carwash^> Paddy_EIRE: sounds like either a problem with a plugin, or you have bad RAM
[20:14] <Paddy_EIRE> D: less than 7 month old laptop carwash^
[20:14] <carwash^> Paddy_EIRE: age doesn't matter
[20:14] <genii> Theres a fairly comprehensive list here http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm/en/lin_browser.html some are for gnome
[20:14] <carwash^> your ram may be bust from the factory
[20:14] <Paddy_EIRE> I suppose although I couldnt call them on the warranty as I removed vista as quickly as a I could... so they would have excuses I'm sure
[20:15] <carwash^> you can boot into a ramtest from the kubuntu install cd, let it run over night. if it's ok, good, if its bad get your ram replaced
[20:15] <carwash^> I've had no problems getting warranty service on my hp
[20:16] <Paddy_EIRE> even though you used linux
[20:16] <Paddy_EIRE> did they not say anything about their acpi is not in use
[20:16] <anto> Can somone explain "/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: gdk_threads_add_idle"
[20:17] <Paddy_EIRE> carwash^: also other apps seem fine so why would firefox detect bad ram?
[20:17] <parabol0x> anto: that looks like some kind of error message
[20:17] <anto> parabol0x: you dont say!?
[20:17] <anto> Somone got an idea how to fix it?
[20:17] <carwash^> Paddy_EIRE: it's probably a bad plugin, but testing the ram costs you nothing
[20:17] <Paddy_EIRE> anto: google it first.. then check the forums
[20:18] <the-erm> I don't particularly like dolphin, how do you set everything to run in konqueror?  Like when you insert an sd card.
[20:18] <anto> Paddy_EIRE: there is not a single thread/page on google
[20:18] <Paddy_EIRE> carwash^: apparently memtest takes forever
[20:18] <Paddy_EIRE> anto: I doubt that error is unique to you
[20:18] <carwash^> forever just happens to coincide with the amount of time one sleeps ;)
[20:18] <Paddy_EIRE> I dont
[20:18] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[20:18] <Paddy_EIRE> 3-3 hrs here an there
[20:18] <anto> Paddy_EIRE: Google it your self
[20:18] <Paddy_EIRE> 2-3*
[20:19] <Paddy_EIRE> no thanks
[20:19] <parabol0x> anto: Google this '/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0' 18,100 results
[20:20] <Sam1337> How do I change my dm-crypt passphrase?
[20:20] <anto> parabol0x: yeah but 0.001% have got a simular problem
[20:27] <parabol0x> anto: try Opera
[20:28] <Paddy_EIRE> carwash^: I dont need to run memtest from the cd do I?? Its in my grub boot menu anyway.
[20:31] <carwash^> Paddy_EIRE: you dont need to run it from the cd
[20:32] <CrocoJet> how can I get list all programs installed in kubuntu ?
[20:34] <llutz> CrocoJet: dpkg -l|grep ^ii
[20:34] <CrocoJet> llutz, thanks
[20:34] <masoft_> prova
[20:35] <VSpike> anyone know where I can get debugging symbols fo digikam?
[20:40] <vzduch> VSpike: isn't there a 'debuginfo' pkg?
[20:40] <vzduch> for digikam
[20:44] <VSpike> vzduch: had to add the repos at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash and now I have a digikam-dbgsym package :)
[20:47] <Radi01> Whats the command to get microsoft off my computer.
[20:48] <VSpike> Radi01: be more specific?
[20:48] <Radi01> nvm.
[20:48] <VSpike> Radi01: you have a dual boot system and you want to remove the windows system?
[20:48] <vzduch> 'format c: /u' doesn't work any more w/ NT-based systems
[20:49] <Radi01> Got it. thanks.
[20:49] <BluesKaj> delete the ntfs partition in gparted or qparted , then reformat in ext3 , then resize the kubuntu partition to take the old ntfs space
[20:49] <Radi01> I'm just going to do a backup and re-install linux.
[20:49] <VSpike> or move your /home to the new partition
[20:50] <Radi01> Thanks.
[20:50]  * genii sips
[20:50] <vzduch> genii: what?
[20:50] <Walkboss> Hello! Can someone possibly assist me in networking my Kubuntu box with a fresh WinXP installed box?
[20:50] <noname> hello
[20:51] <genii> vzduch: Coffee, i'm still at work
[20:51] <genii> vzduch: :)
[20:51] <vzduch> ;)
[20:51] <Radi01> Whats in the coffee.
[20:51] <noname> may i ask if any1 knows where is option for prinitng black/white ? :)
[20:51] <ScorpKing> !samba | Walkboss
[20:51] <ubotu> Walkboss: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[20:52] <VSpike> SWAT is nice but it's a bit of a pig to get working sometimes
[20:52] <ScorpKing> noname: it will be a grayscale option somewhere in the printer settings.
[20:53] <VSpike> Isn't there a KDE tool for doing samba shares?
[20:53] <VSpike> I mean for sharing with samba?
[20:53] <vzduch> ?
[20:54] <VSpike> Walkboss: you should be able to browse windows shares in konqueror using smb:/
[20:54] <trpr> konqueror itself. trying putting smb:\\SomeSambaHost in the address bar
[20:54] <trpr> err, smb:/ ;)
[20:54] <VSpike> trpr: it could be smb://
[20:54] <trpr> i wrote :\\ and it changed my slashes to //
[20:54] <VSpike> I'm not running KDE at the moment, so can't check.
[20:55] <ScorpKing> smb4k is a nice tool for samba networks in kde
[20:55] <anto> how do i format my hardisk to what kubuntu uses?
[20:55] <VSpike> I'm sure I remember seeing something in the control centre for setting up simple samba sharing.  Outgoing, rather than incoming.
[20:55] <Walkboss> I enabled one folder to be shared on XP and I'm checking smb:// now and the only entry (Home) timesout
[20:55] <noname> thx scorpking :)
[20:56] <ScorpKing> anto: backup everything and then run sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/<disk>
[20:56] <vzduch> Walkboss: you might want to use the New Connections wizard in XP
[20:56] <VSpike> anto: use qtparted if you prefer a GUI
[20:56] <ScorpKing> Walkboss: smb://ip.of.win.box/
[20:56] <Walkboss> Beautiful
[20:57] <Walkboss> smb://ip worked perfectly. I knew there was a simple solution that I was just looking over.
[20:57] <ScorpKing> i think the other option is smb://workgroup/
[20:57] <ScorpKing> i use nfs only so can't check
[20:58] <Walkboss> So this is only for linux -> windows?
[20:58] <ScorpKing> yes
[21:00] <Walkboss> Thank you so much. I have one more question! I will be getting a new computer and printer in the office soon and I want to be able to print from my kubuntu laptop to the printer (which will be connected to another XP box). What do I need to do to accomplish this? I've used linux for about 1 1/2 and I've never set up a regular printer, much less a networked one.
[21:00] <ScorpKing> for linux -> linux nfs is a lot better.
[21:00] <ScorpKing> !cups
[21:00] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[21:01] <Walkboss> 1 1/2 years that is. I'm losing it
[21:01] <anto> Should i create the partion as primary or extended partition?
[21:01] <ScorpKing> Walkboss: it should be pretty easy to add a network printer through kcontrol
[21:02] <Walkboss> Ok, thanks. I had no idea how complicated it would be
[21:02] <Walkboss> or isn't in this case
[21:02] <grul> CUPS SUCKS!
[21:02] <ScorpKing> anto: if it's less than 4 partitions use primary. doesn't really matter tho
[21:02] <grul> sorry, "wrong channel"
[21:02] <FlashWolf> hey guys
[21:03] <ScorpKing> grul: it's more like CAPS sucks. :P lol
[21:03] <FlashWolf> which repo should i use to get kxdocker?
[21:03] <grul> nice comeback
[21:03] <ScorpKing> hi FlashWolf
[21:03] <grul> :D
[21:03] <FlashWolf> and the libemeraldengine0?
[21:03] <anto> ScorpKing: what i'm trying to do is to use a hardisk for the system and another of the files i wanna keep so when i go kamikaze its simple to reinstall
[21:03] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: hi! :D
[21:03] <anto> ScorpKing: what sounds best extended or primary?
[21:03] <grul> COPS SUCKS!
[21:04] <ScorpKing> anto: primary in that case
[21:04] <sebbz^> cups sucks
[21:04] <sebbz^> :(
[21:04] <ScorpKing> !caps
[21:04] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[21:04] <anto> ScorpKing: Primary for the one with all the valueable files not the one to be booted?
[21:05] <matttis> hi, does anyone know how kopete logs icq stuff ? Is there a file for every person or is it more difficult ?
[21:05] <FlashWolf> ...?
[21:05] <ScorpKing> anto: you can make one partition (primary) for / and one (primary) for /home and swap (primary). that's how i got it.
[21:05] <jhutchins_lt> matttis: Should be one file per channel.
[21:05] <parabol0x> I like to make all my partitions primary, but that's just how I roll.
[21:06] <ScorpKing> same here
[21:06] <BluesKaj> has anyone used CIFS in place of samba/smb on their network ,and if so what are the advantages, if any ?
[21:06] <parabol0x> I think there is a limit of four primary partitions per disc
[21:06] <ScorpKing> yes
[21:06] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: CIFS is the more general system that samba is moving towards, you're going to start seeing complaints if you use the old smbfs stuff.
[21:06] <parabol0x> BluesKaj: smb is depricated, CIFS is in development
[21:07] <jhutchins_lt> parabol0x: Ironic, no?  Deprecated, but the replacement isn't ready yet.
[21:07] <parabol0x> I'll say it's not ready.
[21:07] <BluesKaj> !CIFS
[21:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:07] <matttis> jhutchins_lt: might be, but i've got 130 files (could be more), and only got 25 contacts. Some off the files have no content (only the xml-framework).
[21:07] <parabol0x> still, it works well enough.
[21:07] <ScorpKing> !info cifs
[21:07] <ubotu> Package cifs does not exist in gutsy
[21:07] <anto> ScorpKing: qt keeps crashing
[21:08] <anto> qtparted*
[21:08] <jhutchins_lt> matttis: You probably know more about it than I do then.
[21:08]  * ScorpKing slaps ubotu..
[21:08] <compbrain> !info samba
[21:08] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 3750 kB, installed size 9212 kB
[21:08] <jhutchins_lt> matttis: Anything more specific is going to have to be from the kopete support channels.
[21:08] <ScorpKing> anto: does it give errors? start it from konsole to see
[21:08] <Walkboss> Ok, one more question please!
[21:08] <ScorpKing> !ask
[21:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:08] <anto> ScorpKing: works now
[21:08] <Walkboss> I need to be backup to my newly networked XP box
[21:09] <Walkboss> need to backup*
[21:09] <jhutchins_lt> anto: You're not trying to run it on the disk your system's running from, are you?
[21:09] <parabol0x> !dd
[21:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:09] <parabol0x> w/e'
[21:09] <matttis> jhutchins_lt: I'll ask there, thx
[21:09] <ScorpKing> dd won't work for smb i think
[21:09] <parabol0x> use a live disc and back up to a removable drive
[21:10] <anto> jhutchins_lt: i'm not that stupid ;)
[21:10] <ScorpKing> Walkboss: just copy the files there
[21:10] <anto> ScorpKing: should the swap partion be on the same hardisk as the files that i always want to keep?
[21:10] <jhutchins_lt> !backup | Walkboss
[21:10] <ubotu> Walkboss: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[21:10] <Walkboss> I guess that would work.
[21:10] <FlashWolf> what repo do i use to get kxdocker?
[21:10] <Walkboss> I've been using Simple Backup
[21:10] <jhutchins_lt> anto: You'd be surprised, people do it all the time.
[21:10] <anto> weird people in the world today
[21:11] <jhutchins_lt> anto: Make sure you've got a good iso/cd; if it's good you may want to memtest the system.
[21:11] <anto> like microsoft saying that a linux desktop costs more the windows
[21:11] <ScorpKing> anto: put the swap partition at the end of the disk. that way it's easy to dd to a bigger disk if you have to end just resize /home
[21:11] <ScorpKing> and*
[21:11] <ScorpKing> FlashWolf: there is kooldock as well ;)
[21:14] <jhutchins_lt> I never like partitioning.  It always turns out the space you need is on the other partition.  Just use / and /swap and make a backup of /home.
[21:14] <matttis> jhutchins_lt: fyi - kopete saves it for each contact and month
[21:14] <parabol0x> I think kopete saves in a . file in ~
[21:14] <parabol0x> a subdir, actually
[21:15] <parabol0x> just dig around a bit
[21:15] <parabol0x> you'll find it
[21:15] <jhutchins_lt> I try not to keep much on the local drives anyway, save all data to a shared server.
[21:15] <parabol0x> or grep for a unique phrase
[21:16] <ScorpKing> .kde/share/apps/kopete/
[21:16] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: need some external repo?
[21:17] <ScorpKing> !find kooldock
[21:17] <ubotu> Found: kooldock
[21:17] <ScorpKing> !info kooldock
[21:17] <ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB
[21:17] <ScorpKing> FlashWolf: see there ^
[21:17] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: i'm installing...
[21:17] <FlashWolf> dont need any repo. thk u!
[21:18] <ScorpKing> yw :)
[21:18] <ScorpKing> there are others as well. google for them.
[21:19] <milfhunter> guys is there a program to see a videos codec?
[21:20] <BluesKaj> milfhunter, one can usually see from the file extn
[21:21] <parabol0x> often the extension only describes the container...
[21:21] <parabol0x> that doesn'
[21:21] <parabol0x> t always tell you what codec was used
[21:21] <cps1966> any one get kubuntu installed on eee pc
 yes its an .avi but i need to see something like video encoder MP4 audio encoder AC3
[21:23] <BluesKaj> usually divx or xvid , if it's avi
[21:24] <BluesKaj> milfhunter, try devede GUI , it may give the codecs for both audio and video
[21:24] <milfhunter> well i'll explain better what i mean, i have a 40min video thats like 700Mb and i have downloaded avidemux2 to re-encode it but i am not sure what type of video/audio encoding is the best to use...
[21:24] <milfhunter> normally it could be like 350-370mb
[21:25] <jhutchins_lt> the tovid package has a nice utility to display all the info on a video file.
[21:25] <jhutchins_lt> It'll give you the length and encoding and everything.
[21:26] <jhutchins_lt> !info tovid
[21:26] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in gutsy
[21:26] <jhutchins_lt> !?
[21:27] <nosrednaekim> !info tovid (fiesty)
[21:27] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in gutsy
[21:28] <jhutchins_lt> http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[21:28] <cps1966> !info transcode
[21:28] <ubotu> transcode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.8ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 2380 kB, installed size 5488 kB
[21:28] <jhutchins_lt> It's just scripts, no binaries, so safe to install from the tarball.
[21:28] <BluesKaj> yes jhutchins, agreed but devede will give the properties without having to transcode
[21:28] <RogueJediX> Did anyone have any trouble getting KRec to work?
[21:28] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: The tovid util doesn't transcode, it just reads the headers and dumps the info.
[21:29] <BluesKaj> ok, point taken, jhutchins
[21:30] <milfhunter> thanks for the help guys :)
[21:30] <milfhunter> i hope transcode does the job!
[21:32] <svenne> hej
[21:32] <svenne> någon svensk?
[21:33] <jhutchins_lt> svenne: Sadly, no.
[21:33] <BluesKaj> !se | svenne
[21:33] <ubotu> svenne: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[21:33] <tekteen> anyone know how to do a net install?
[21:34] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: Never don a 'buntu one, there should be a way from the alternate install CD though - probably an option on the menu.
[21:34] <tekteen> I looked
[21:34] <tekteen> everywhere
[21:35] <cps1966> na there aint one tiko
[21:35] <tekteen> I know the alt install cd inside and out.
[21:35] <tekteen> were u talking to me?
[21:35] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: Um, did you try googling "kubuntu net install"?
[21:35] <tekteen> yes
[21:35] <cps1966> dont know anyone that did netinstall
[21:36] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get distro-upgrade ?
[21:36] <tekteen> ?
[21:37] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: It's not really meant to be done over the net, as long as you've got the CD anyway might as well install from that.  It pulls updates from the net anyway.
[21:37] <BluesKaj> tekteen, I'm not sure :)
[21:37] <compbrain> tekteen: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[21:37] <jhutchins_lt> I see that net installs are a future planned feature, which implies that they haven't been explicitly made available yet.
[21:37] <tekteen> not looking for PXE
[21:37] <compbrain> what are you looking for then?
[21:38] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: Don't just a FAQ by it's URL!
[21:38] <tekteen> I want a cd that will
[21:38] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: Just use the alt CD.
[21:38] <tekteen> install from its own repo
[21:38] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_lt, no wonder my attempts at a net upgrade to gusty kept failing :)
[21:38] <mike-kubuntu> almost nothing about kde 4 works for me still
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> I think its "dist-upgrade"
[21:38] <BluesKaj> err gutsy
[21:38] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: Net upgrade is not the same as net install.
[21:38] <tekteen> if there is an update or it does not have it it will get it from the net
[21:38] <compbrain> tekteen: http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[21:39] <tekteen> thanks
[21:39] <compbrain> or the equivalent path for a mirror near you.
[21:39] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[21:39] <jhutchins_lt> compbrain: Someone needs to clean up som old web pages....
[21:39] <compbrain> jhutchins_lt: pardon?
[21:40] <jhutchins_lt> There's a lot of stuff that says it's not available.
[21:40] <jhutchins_lt> compbrain: Old stuff no doubt.
[21:40] <compbrain> What page are you speaking of?
[21:41] <jhutchins_lt> Whatever, first page of hits on google assumes it's not explicitly possible.
[21:41] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_lt,  i did a clean install from the live cd after adept's upgrade client kept failing
[21:41] <BluesKaj> the repos kept disconnecting
[21:42] <jhutchins_lt> Yuck
[21:42] <tekteen> compbrain: do u know of and documentation on the mini.iso
[21:42] <jhutchins_lt> Bad repos will make a mess of the best installers.
[21:42] <tekteen> any*
[21:43] <compbrain> tekteen: It boots, and is the text mode ubuntu installer, not sure specifically what your looking for.
[21:43] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: You still haven't explained _why_.
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> mike-kubuntu: are you using the RC1?
[21:44] <tekteen> jhutchins_It: I do installs on machines with no DVD drive but need them to auto install A LOT of software
[21:44] <mike-kubuntu> nosrednaikim: yeah
[21:44] <tekteen> I have been modifying the alt install cd but it will not get packages off the internet
[21:45] <compbrain> tekteen: also, the 'installation-guide-$ARCH' packages will have information your looking for
[21:45] <tekteen> ok
[21:45] <tekteen> I need to figure out how to put a deb repo (like on the alt install cd) on the mini.iso
[21:46] <tekteen> and make in gigantic.iso :-)
[21:46] <jhutchins_lt> Hm.  There's a program called kickstart in RedHat, pretty sure there are similar ones, allows you to profile a machine and use that as an install template.  Takes a few extra steps, but it sounds like you're already doing those.
[21:46] <tekteen> yep
[21:46] <jhutchins_lt> There should be something like that for kubuntu....
[21:46] <lucian> Does anyone know where I can find a good walkthrough to connect to a wireless network with wpa enabled, when im only booted up to a command line interface?
[21:46] <tekteen> there ir
[21:46] <tekteen> preseed
[21:46] <tekteen> is*
[21:47] <tekteen> !wpa
[21:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:47] <compbrain> jhutchins_lt: There is. If you look at the installation guide, you can use preseed OR kickstart files with the ubuntu-installer, which will install a kubuntu machine.
[21:47] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: So you would be using something like that?
[21:47] <tekteen> ?
[21:48] <tekteen> jhutchins_lt: I do not understand
[21:48] <tekteen> what is "that"
[21:48]  * tekteen is too tired to think
[21:49] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: You would use something like preseed to build your boot/install iso.
[21:49] <tekteen> yes, I do use preseed
[21:50] <jhutchins_lt> Well, enought of this foolishness.  Sitting around pretending to support a Windows site all day!
[21:50] <tekteen> But it will not use a repo
[21:50] <genii> there is a tool for it
[21:50] <tekteen> genii: what tool?
[21:51] <tekteen> g2g
[21:51] <tekteen> bye
[21:51] <pteague_work> anybody know if there's a way to get kget to save a file with the server date rather than now() ?
[21:51] <genii> me too soon
[21:56] <evan_> ok, this isnt a question but, goto www.tnt.tv    i think its been recently hacked, like just now cause it was fine 30 secs ago. i get pics or porn for  charmed and the closer
[21:56] <evan_> i just think its funny
[21:56] <evan_> thats all
[21:57] <yis> em?
[21:59] <anto> ScorpKing:  you there?
[21:59] <ScorpKing> yeah
[21:59] <anto> should the linux-swap be primary or extended partion also is 50gb to big?
[21:59] <nosrednaekim> anto: doesn't matter, and 50gb is way to big for swap.
[22:00] <ScorpKing> primary is fine if you have only /, /home and swap. 1GB is enough
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> anto: 2gigs is about right for most
[22:00] <BluesKaj> 2G swap is plenty
[22:00] <ScorpKing> i have 500MB swap here
[22:01] <parabol0x> swap should be 2X RAM
[22:01] <parabol0x> or 1.5
[22:01] <anto> 4gb then
[22:01] <anto> Ill set 6gb thinking of adding another gb of ram
[22:01] <ScorpKing> you'll never use all that
[22:01] <parabol0x> That's more than you'll need, guaranteed
[22:01] <anto> parabol0x: i got 700gb of space
[22:01] <parabol0x> w/e
[22:02] <anto> w/e ?
[22:02] <parabol0x> whatever
[22:02] <anto> k :P
[22:02] <parabol0x> I just remember my first pc
[22:02] <parabol0x> with a 500MB drive
[22:02] <parabol0x> thinking, damn, how'm I ever gonna fill all that
[22:02] <anto> The first computer i used was my fathers with a 20mb hardisk
[22:02] <parabol0x> ...you know the rest of the story
[22:02] <anto> i could play tetris on it
[22:03] <anto> then he bought a windows 95 were you had to write "win" everytime you started it :P
[22:03] <anto> Good old days huh :P
[22:03] <parabol0x> But yeah, storage is cheap, use whatever you want for swap
[22:03] <anto> K now i only need to move 300gb of musics and my homemade videos :P
[22:04] <parabol0x> I recommend doing it from the command line with cp
[22:04] <anto> Quick question how do i /dev/sda1 to run as /home/anto?
[22:04] <parabol0x> Konq doesn't always fail gracefully
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> anto: are you in the partitioner?
[22:05] <anto> nosrednaekim: what you mean?
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> anto: are you installing right now?
[22:05] <anto> nosrednaekim: no i was using qtparted to partion one of the hardisks
[22:05] <take34> hi all
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> anto: oh... ok, well you assign the drive to /home later (int he installer)
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> hi take34
[22:06] <anto> nosrednaekim: yeah i know that
[22:06] <anto> but should i create a holder called anto?
[22:06] <take34> can i ask for a help ?
[22:06] <anto> in /dev/sda1
[22:06] <anto> of course you can
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> anto: partition?
[22:06] <anto> folder*
[22:06] <parabol0x> no
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> anto: ok...no
[22:06] <parabol0x> it'll be created automatically
[22:06] <parabol0x> when you create first user
[22:06] <anto> then were should i move the files i want to save before reinstalling the hardisk?
[22:06] <take34> i've deleteed firefox from the adept programm on kubuntu how can i isntall firefox now ?
[22:07] <anto> just to a random folder then move over to anto ?
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> take34: go back intop the adept program and reinstall it
[22:07] <parabol0x> ummm.
[22:07] <take34> how to ?
[22:07] <parabol0x> I haven't been paying attention
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> anto: oh.... umm you meant he HD has files  on it right now?
[22:07] <anto> take34: sudo apt-get install firefox
[22:07] <evan_> anto: my bad from earlier, but something isnt right. thats all, im out.
[22:07] <parabol0x> anto: you're installing to a PC with files you want to save on it?
[22:07] <take34> just a sec i ve tried it and got an error
[22:08] <anto> nosrednaekim: the HD with my files is the one with the current operating system my father bought me a new hardisk so i thougt i would use my old one for the system and the new of the music programing codes etc
[22:08] <anto> so should i create a folder with a random name on the new hardisk and then when i reinstalled move into the folder called anto created by the system?
[22:08] <nosrednaekim> anto: so wait.... you are installing kubuntu on the hard drive that currently had all of your files?
[22:09] <parabol0x> For failsafe security, I'd install to the new drive, with the old drive physically removed from the case
[22:09] <anto> currentlys has *
[22:09] <parabol0x> Once you have a working system, install the old drive with all your files as a slave drive
[22:10] <parabol0x> and modify fstab
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> anto: ok..currently has?
[22:10] <parabol0x> copy your files to new drive, and fdisk the old drive
[22:10] <anto> nosrednaekim: yes
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> anto: don't do that.... your files will be erased.
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> anto:  install the OS on the new drive.
[22:10] <anto> thats what i was worried about
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> anto: stop that partitioning and do NOT apply your changes
[22:11] <anto> take34: close adept manager
[22:11] <anto> Blimy im getting a head ache
[22:11] <anto> :P
[22:11] <anto> lets take this tomorrow school tomorrow
[22:11] <parabol0x> Put it away till tomorrow then
[22:12] <anto> Cya
[22:12] <medhat> hi
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> hey medhat
[22:12] <medhat> i want ide c/c++ for kubuntu can any one tell what is the best
[22:12] <NeoFax> Hello everyone!
[22:12] <medhat> nosrednaekim: hey
[22:12] <milfhunter>  <medhat>  kdevelop i think
[22:13] <nosrednaekim> medhat: kdevelop
[22:13] <medhat> it is aompiler or text editor
[22:13] <take34> anto: when i do udo apt-get install firefox
[22:13] <milfhunter>  <medhat>  also eclipse i think is supporting c/c++
[22:13] <nosrednaekim> hi NeoFax
[22:13] <take34> i get
[22:13] <take34> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:13] <take34> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:13] <medhat> i want something like dev c++ in windows :d
[22:13] <maverick_>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[22:13] <maverick_> Mem:          1001        948         53
[22:14] <anto> Closed adept_manager!
[22:14] <anto> CLose
[22:14] <maverick_> any ideas
[22:14] <maverick_> am having 1GB ram
[22:14] <take34> ok
[22:14] <maverick_> used: 948 :|
[22:14] <anto> nosrednaekim: quick question
[22:14] <milfhunter>  <medhat>  i think the closest is kdevelop
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: take a look at the second line, which is what really matters
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> anto: ya?
[22:14] <stdin> !memory | maverick_
[22:14] <ubotu> maverick_: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[22:15] <anto> If you could find a solution on how to fix this i would not have to reinstall my pc "/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: gdk_threads_add_idle"
[22:15] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: used 548
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: thats better :D
[22:15] <medhat> how can i install it and what its needs
[22:15] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: thnx
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> anto: reinstall libgtk
[22:15] <anto> nosrednaekim: i tried
[22:15] <david__> Hi all
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> medhat: "sudo apt-get install kdevelop"
[22:15] <take34> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:15] <take34> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[22:15] <take34> is only available from another source
[22:15] <take34> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[22:16] <take34> ;)
[22:16] <anto> sudo apt-get install mozilla
[22:16] <take34> srry
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> take34: try "mozilla-firefox"
[22:16] <medhat> okay i will c hanks for help  guyz
[22:16] <anto> nosrednaekim: how do i reinstall libgtk i have tried for ages
[22:17] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm having some trouble getting flash workign in opera, can anyone help me out?
[22:17] <anto> nosrednaekim: i think i screwed it up when trying to compile monodevelop
[22:17] <nosrednaekim> anto: let me see...
[22:17] <anto> Ch1ppy: You got flashplayer 9 installed?
[22:17] <Ch1ppy> anto: trying to install the newest beta release
[22:17] <anto> U runing amd64?
[22:17] <Ch1ppy> anto: nope
[22:17] <nosrednaekim> anto: yech... don'tdo mono
[22:18] <nosrednaekim> anto: reinstall the package "libgtk2.0-0"
[22:18] <anto> sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgtk2.0-0 ?
[22:19] <Ch1ppy> anto: any ideas?
[22:19] <anto> Ch1ppy: have you tried firefox/ or konq?
[22:19] <take34> sudo... E: Couldn't find package mozilla-firefox
[22:19] <Ch1ppy> anto: yes, it works in those
[22:19] <take34> same for mozilla
[22:20] <take34> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[22:20] <take34> i think it is because i deleted firefox from adept
[22:20] <anto> take34: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[22:20] <anto> take34: nah
[22:20] <nosrednaekim> !info mozilla-firefox
[22:20] <ubotu> Package mozilla-firefox does not exist in gutsy
[22:20] <take34> ;)
[22:20] <anto> nosrednaekim: no difference
[22:21] <nosrednaekim> anto: you are in your old installation now?
[22:21] <anto> nosrednaekim: yes
[22:21] <take34> can i reinstall adept itself ?
[22:21] <anto> nosrednaekim: i was going to reinstall if i didnt find a solution for this problem
[22:21] <Ch1ppy> can anyone help me get flash working in opera?
[22:21] <take34> from cd ?
[22:22] <anto> take34: why would you want to do that!
[22:22] <anto> take34: do what i said
[22:22] <take34> did
[22:22] <anto> and?
[22:22] <sourcemaker> how can I configure the nvidia glx card?
[22:22] <take34> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:22] <take34> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[22:22] <take34> is only available from another source
[22:22] <take34> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[22:23] <sourcemaker> it's a 7600 GT
[22:23] <parabol0x> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Flash_Player_9_Update_3_for_linux_released
[22:23] <anto> is the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf < X11 server for graphics
[22:23] <parabol0x> that should help get it working in Opera
[22:23] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[22:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:23] <take34> i can share a desctop
[22:23] <pteague_work> apparently kget doesn't preserve server timestamps :(  anybody know of a gui download manager that does?
[22:23] <anto> nosrednaekim: any suggestions? (if i write sudo apt-get remove gtk2.0-0  --purge it asks if i want to remove 700mb of files
[22:23] <sourcemaker> ubotu: Yes... I know this... but it does not work.... it seems that there is a configuration missmatch after i have plugged a new card....
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> anto: thats gonna remove every gtk app.
[22:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...reinstall the driver.
[22:24] <anto> nosrednaekim: Duh :S
[22:24] <jamie_> Hello. I am having problems with Kubuntu detecting my wireless network card. Please help
[22:24] <anto> nosrednaekim: what should i do then?
[22:24] <sourcemaker> Daisuke_Laptop: yes... i have also tried this
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> anto: I think there is a --reinstall which will remove it then reinstall, but doesn't remove anything that dpends on it.
[22:25] <anto> nosrednaekim: that is what i did
[22:25] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: What is the exact error in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?  Please use pastebin.
[22:25] <anto> nosrednaekim: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgtk2.0-0
[22:25] <Ch1ppy> parabol0x: that's what I'm trying, it's not working
[22:25] <anto> nosrednaekim: but i still have the same error
[22:25] <row_> if I want to install latest version of imdbpy what is the best method for creating a .deb?
[22:25] <row_> +python module
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> anto: you know....removeing all gtk things is probaly not gonna kill you since you are using kubuntu.,
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> row_: go to #ubuntu-motu
[22:26] <anto> nosrednaekim: well i aint done that because i know that it will remove all the good apps :( http://pastebin.com/m17c2d9b
[22:26] <jamie_> I have a new Gatgeway laptop. Kubuntu doesn't recognize my wireless network card. lspci doesn't show it.
[22:26] <anto> nosrednaekim: thats a pastebin of the result of locate gtk if it helps
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: what type of chipset?
[22:27] <jamie_> it is AMD 64
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> anto: but you can reinstall all of those apps later!
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: what wireless chipset?
[22:27] <anto> nosrednaekim: i dont realy think thats the problem
[22:27] <take34> so i did  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox - what is then ?
[22:27] <jamie_> oh i'm not sure how can i find out
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> take34: no errors?
[22:28] <Ch1ppy> Can anyone help me get flash working in opera?  I'm trying the flash installer, it works and the file is properly setup, but opera still doesn't show any flash content
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: look in windows..
[22:28] <take34> nosrednaekim:
[22:28] <take34> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:28] <take34> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[22:28] <take34> is only available from another source
[22:28] <take34> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[22:28] <sourcemaker> NeoFax:  Kernel Version 9631 but X Module Version 9639
[22:28] <jamie_> windows?
[22:28] <jamie_> is that the same as using lspci?
[22:29] <take34> nosrednaekim: cant get what is this about
[22:29] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: it does have windows right? well, go in there and see what type of chipset it has, it will be a braodcom,atheros or raLink
[22:29] <jamie_> no laptop started with visa...but now it only has kubuntu
[22:29] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: OK, then you will need to update your kernel modules to the 9639 driver.  Let me check what package it is in.
[22:29] <jamie_> i'm using it now, but with a wired connection
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> take34: try this run "apt-cache search firefox" and pastebin the results
[22:31] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: ah... then look up your laptop on www.linux-laptops.net that may give you a hint
[22:31] <jamie_> ok ty brb
[22:32] <take34> nosrednaekim:
[22:32] <take34> apt-cache search firefox
[22:32] <take34> kubuntu-docs - kubuntu documentation
[22:32] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[22:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:32] <nosrednaekim> take34: thats it?
[22:32] <take34> yes
[22:32] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: have you found?
[22:33] <nosrednaekim> take34: ah... repository problems then... ok go into the adept_manager->adept->manage repositories and turn on all of those repositoires (besides the course one)
[22:33] <nosrednaekim> !repositories | take34
[22:33] <ubotu> take34: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[22:35] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Are you on Feisty or Gutsy?  Also, do sudo apt-cahe search nvidia | grep nvidia-kernel-common and post the result.
[22:35] <ScorpKing> nite guys.
[22:38] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: what to install? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46890/
[22:38] <alesan> hi, I am working outside the X environment, how can I configure a USB keyboard to NOT send characters to the character console?
[22:39] <alesan> I wanna use only the integarted PS2 keyboard for the console
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> where is intelikey when we have questions like this?
[22:39] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: When you did the sudo apt-cache search nvidia this is all it found?  Also, are you on Gutsy?
[22:39] <alesan> what do you mean
[22:39] <take34> nosrednaekim: IT WORKED OUT
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> take34: sweet :D
[22:39] <alesan> and, how do I get rid of delphin
[22:40] <milfhunter> dolphin?
[22:40] <take34> nosrednaekim: so i removed the package from the adept that was the problem
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> alesan: intelikey is mr. only-command-line-interface
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> take34: no, your repositories were messed up.
[22:40] <take34> nosrednaekim: kk, btw how to make a keyboard layout hot keys enabled ?
[22:41] <nosrednaekim> !hotkeys
[22:41] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[22:41] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic <IP_ADDRESS>-14.10 is already installed
[22:42] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: is there a known upgrade bug from feisty to gusty?
[22:44] <Artimus> What is the preferred suspend/hibernate function in Gutsy?  I used uswsusp in Feisty, it worked well, but if there's a better way, I'd love to hear it.
[22:45] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Here is the upgrade problem and the possible fix: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/15652
[22:49] <NeoFax> I am having a problem with the following error:  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient_r
[22:50] <trappist> NeoFax: maybe install libmysqlclient15-dev
[22:51] <NeoFax> trappist: It is installed and it was working fine compiling programs until recently.
[22:52] <trappist> NeoFax: maybe the app you're compiling is looking for it in the wrong place?
[22:52] <steve_> hello
[22:52] <jamie_> i'm back the link didn't help =(
[22:53] <steve_> new here
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: couldn't find your laptop?
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> hey steve_
[22:54] <jamie_> it looked like the site had been taken down. this is a gateway T-1616
[22:54] <steve_> hello just installed kubuntu but dont understand much
[22:54] <NeoFax> trappist: When I look at the configure output it shows mysql . . . yes; mysql . . .-L/usr/lib/mysql, -lmysqlclient_r.  However, my mysqlclient_r is at /usr/lib and even if I change the config to show /usr/lib the prgram still does not compile.
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> steve_: welcome!
[22:54] <steve_> thanks
[22:54] <steve_> do in need antivirus
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> steve_: if you have question, chances are we can answer them,(or point you in the right direction)
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> !virus
[22:54] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[22:55] <steve_> i cant access my discs where my windows is on
[22:55] <steve_> or any disc for that matter and dont want to lose the data on it
[22:55] <nosrednaekim> !mount
[22:55] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[22:55] <trappist> NeoFax: you should have /usr/lib/libmysqlclient_r.so.15 as a symlink to /usr/lib/libmysqlclient_r.so.15.0.0
[22:56] <NeoFax> trappist: It is.
[22:56] <trappist> NeoFax: what are you trying to build?
[22:57] <NeoFax> trappist: MaNGOS
[22:57] <jamie_> Does Gateway T-1616 help?
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: err sorry, didn't see tha.. just a second.
is there training one can take on freenode ?
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> SportChick: erm wow.... I remember you from bzflag :D
[22:59] <trappist> NeoFax: ok I get the same thing...
[23:00] <NeoFax> trappist: OK, then it is a MaNGOS problem then or a possible mysql_config problem?
[23:00] <trappist> NeoFax: checking that out now
[23:01] <Nonino> Hi all
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> hi Nonino
[23:01] <Nonino> Somebody is able, and happy of helping me with some networking issues?
[23:02] <Nonino> Hi nosrednaekim
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=609196
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> Nonino: like what?
[23:02] <ninjagambit> I am new to linux and Intalled fedora 8 it auto set up partitions using freespace on my hard disk Now I have 4 partitions 2 are for winddows
[23:03] <ninjagambit> I was wondering how to do away with fedora completely
[23:03] <ninjagambit> and install kubuntu
[23:03] <Nonino> If i give you a diagram of a topology... could you tell me the mac source that each access point in the net would see?
[23:03] <ninjagambit> if i delete the the partitions will it delete all content in them
[23:03] <ninjagambit> ?
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> ninjagambit: just launch the installer, do manual partitioning, and select the mount points for your partitions
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> ninjagambit: yes
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> Nonino: eh?
[23:04] <david__> ninjagambit, you need to format the partitions
[23:04] <Nonino> nosrednaekim: i need to know what happens with the mac address of a packet every time it go thru each hop
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> Nonino: oh.... wow... ok, never done that, but wireshark might be able to tell you
[23:05] <ninjagambit> can i delete partitions then format the new freespace
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> ninjagambit: yes, but it will delete your information.
[23:05] <david__> yes
[23:06] <Nonino> nosrednaekim: the problem is that i'm not able to test it, i need the concept before to develop an application related with that
[23:06] <ninjagambit> thats fine
[23:06] <david__> how do I change my nick to dmcglone?
[23:06] <ninjagambit> i just want to have it blank
[23:06] <david__> !nick
[23:06] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[23:06] <ninjagambit> to do fresh kubuntu install
[23:06] <nosrednaekim> ninjagambit: ah ok... yeah, that should be fine then
[23:07] <david__> ninjagambit, you only need to deete the partitions if your gonna resize them
[23:07] <ninjagambit> yeah i have to
[23:07] <david__> then just delete them and then after you re-create them format them
[23:07] <ninjagambit> fedora requires one for boot 126mb
[23:08] <ninjagambit> and then another
[23:08] <david__> I thought you were putting kubuntu on and removing fedora?
[23:08] <ninjagambit> I am
[23:08] <david__> then why worry about what fedora requires?
[23:08] <jamie_> i think i found the driver, how do i install .tar.bz2?
[23:08] <ninjagambit> but the boot partition isnt large enough now
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: well, thats probably a kernel driver,
[23:09] <jamie_> i believe so. is that what i need?
[23:09] <david__> the questions you are asking, I wonder how you even got fedora installed.
[23:10] <trappist> NeoFax: ah, looks like you need libmysql++, the c++ bindings for mysql
[23:10] <nosrednaekim> !ralink
[23:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:10] <trappist> NeoFax: sudo apt-get install libmysql++-dev libmysql++2c2a
[23:10] <ninjagambit> during the manual set up off kubuntu install there is option for primary or logical which one do i use and should i format the swap partion as swap
[23:11] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: I have to go.... please read that wifi-docs page. it should explain how to get your raLink wireless working.
[23:11] <jamie_> that site didn't work
[23:12] <Nonino> can anybody help with some networking concepts?
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: err! well i'm very sorry.
[23:12] <jamie_> is that kernel driver the one i need tho? you sounded as if it wasn't
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> Nonino: #linux may be more helpful
[23:12] <Nonino> nosrednaekim: thanks!
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: well, that probably is the right driver,but its also probably installed on your computer.
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: does "iwconfig"show any wireless devices?
[23:13] <jamie_> no
[23:13] <jamie_> "no wireless extensions"
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> hrm... well sorry... good luck!
[23:13] <jamie_> ty
[23:14] <NeoFax> trappist: Already had them installed
[23:14]  * genii sips a coffee
[23:15] <david__> I want some of that coffee
[23:15] <david__> black please
[23:16] <david__> where ya at bazhang_?
[23:16] <jamie_> Kubuntu is not detecting my wireless on my laptop
[23:16] <david__> what card you using jamie?
[23:17] <jhutchins> david__: I'll take bourbon and creme in mine.
[23:17]  * genii passes david__ a large black coffee, extra strong
[23:17] <jhutchins> jamie_: You've had the linux hardware support rant?
[23:17] <david__> Ah, tastes great
[23:17] <tekteen> compbrain: u still here?
[23:17] <jamie_> I don't know. this is a new laptop that had vista <wireless worked> and now with kubuntu it is as if doesn't exit
[23:17]  * genii rummages for jhutchins' bourbon
[23:18] <jamie_> i don't know what the support rant is
[23:18] <jhutchins> genii: That's ok, just cream then, i'll add the burbon.
[23:18] <david__> first you need to figure out your model of card
[23:18] <fungos_> how can I format a sata drive? It initializes /dev/md0 but I cant manage it with fdisk
[23:18]  * genii slides a coffee with cream down to jhutchins
[23:18] <jamie_> it is difficult because lspci doesn't show it
[23:18] <tekteen> jamie_: did u chech the restricted drivers manager?
[23:19] <genii> md0 <> sata it's some raid device
[23:19] <tekteen> check*
[23:19] <david__> it's not going to because linux doesn't reconize it yet, because you haven't set it up yet.
[23:19] <jhutchins> jamie_: <rant>Manufacturers of the cards don't supply OS drivers because we could theoretically hack them to make the cards use illegal parts of the radio spectrum.  Only the cards that brave, noble souls have hacked work, but that's most of 'em, dang it!</rant>
[23:19] <lucky_lucas> yeah ski challenge is back
[23:19] <lucky_lucas> anyone had try it under linux
[23:19] <jhutchins> jamie_: sudo lspci | grep Ethernet will show you what chipset you're dealing with.
[23:19] <jamie_> ok ty brb
[23:20] <fungos_> I doenst want raid, just want to use it as a normal ide or something
[23:20] <jhutchins> fungos_: what does fdisk say when you try?
[23:20] <jhutchins> fungos_: sudo fdisk -l?
[23:20] <david__> jamie: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,list/
[23:21] <fungos_> Unable to find /dev/md
[23:21] <jhutchins> fungos_: sudo fdisk -l?
[23:21] <fungos_> ops
[23:21] <jamie_> 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E PCI Expres                                                              s Fast Ethernet controller (rev 01)
[23:21] <jhutchins> jamie_: Um, that's the wired one, is there another?
[23:21] <fungos_> no, fdisk -l doesnt show anything to do with that drive. just the master one
[23:21] <david__> Ok jamie, go find your card on that site I specified
[23:21] <david__> Ah thats wired
[23:22] <fungos_> when I try fdisk /dev/md I get: Unable to read /dev/md
[23:22] <genii> fungos_: Does your bios have hardware raid of some kind enabled?
[23:22] <jamie_> no, thats what i mean it doesn't 'see' the wireless. i know it's there it worked on vista
[23:22] <jhutchins> fungos_: It woudl be /dev/md#, starting with 0
[23:22] <david__> jamie, go read the ndiswrapper docs I sent you above
[23:22] <fungos_> when I try fdisk /dev/md0 I get: Unable to read /dev/md0 too :)
[23:22] <jamie_> ok
[23:22] <david__> your problem is beyond the scope of a chat room
[23:22] <jhutchins> Er, no, /dev/... it'd be /dev/sda, with the partitions 1-9.
[23:22] <david__> lOL
[23:23] <fungos_> my bios doesnt support raid.. but the disk itself shows its own "bios"
[23:23] <jhutchins> fungos_: Possibly you need a driver for the sata adapter, although linux is pretty good about that.
[23:23] <david__> a bios on a sata drive? Hmmm thats news to me
[23:23] <genii> might be some Promise controller
[23:23] <jhutchins> david__: bios on a controller, that's normal.
[23:24] <jamie_> i have to know what kind of wireless i have for that site to work
[23:24] <david__> well of course a controller
[23:24] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: My nvidia card is running... ;-) ;-) ;-)
[23:24] <jhutchins> david__: We often walk people through basic native/ndiswrapper/wifi setups, as long as they're willing to try.
[23:24] <jamie_> i went to gateway and in order for them to specify they wanted me to use IE
[23:24] <david__> jhutchins, be my guest then... LOL
[23:25] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: NP.  I am glad I can help someone
[23:25] <fungos_> this drive I just bought, I need to do a physical format in it?
[23:25] <jhutchins> jamie_: ok, sudo lspci then, and look at what you get.
[23:25] <jhutchins> fungos_: Not if fdisk doesn't see it.
[23:25] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: there was a problem with my boot loader... the installed kernel was not loaded... ;-)
[23:25] <david__> in no way am I going to sit here that long
[23:25] <jamie_> only the wired one pops up. do you think this could be a BIOS problem?
[23:25] <jhutchins> fungos_: you might try the gparted live cd, see if it can find it.
[23:25] <david__> see
[23:25] <david__> LMAO good luck jhutchins
[23:26] <fungos_> ok, I will try
[23:26] <jamie_> brb i'm going to search high and low for my wireless card type
[23:27] <david__> I hope you find it
[23:27] <jhutchins> david__: I'm intrigued.  What sort of new wireless hardware might not show up in lspci?
[23:27] <jhutchins> Is it on some other bus?
[23:27] <genii> pcmcia possibly (still lspci should show that) or maybe usb
[23:27] <jhutchins> Even usb cards show up on the pci bus through the bridge.
[23:28] <david__> I didn't say anything about not showing up in lspci, i'm talking about how hard it's going to be to help her if she can't do anything in the first place.
[23:28] <jhutchins> exactly.  It _should_ show up, even as an unidentified device.
[23:28] <jhutchins> david__: You're assuming a gender that has not been clearly indicated.
[23:28] <sourcemaker> is there a beryl installation guide available?
[23:28] <david__> this has nothing to do with gender either.
[23:29] <Dragnslcr> sourcemaker- Beryl has been discontinued
[23:29] <jhutchins> sourcemaker: Pretty sure there is, see #ubuntu-effects and #compiz
[23:29] <jhutchins> sourcemaker: beryl has merged back with compiz.
[23:29] <sourcemaker> jhutchins: thank for information
[23:30] <jhutchins> !compiz | sourcemaker
[23:30] <ubotu> sourcemaker: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:34] <tekteen> !botsnack
[23:34] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[23:35] <tekteen> !coffee
[23:35] <ubotu> coffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java
[23:35] <david__> cool, let me try this
[23:35] <david__> !asshole
[23:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asshole - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:35] <david__> LOL
[23:35] <latch> lol!!!
[23:35] <LjL> cool
[23:35] <tekteen> :-)
[23:35] <LjL> let me try this
[23:35] <latch> !linus torvalds
[23:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linus torvalds - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:35] <LjL> i said let me try it :(
[23:36] <latch> looooooool
[23:36] <LjL> !botabuse
[23:36] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[23:36] <tekteen> !linus
[23:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:36] <stdin> tekteen: stop that
[23:36] <tekteen> ok
[23:36] <latch> sry
[23:36] <stdin> if you want to play with the bot, it responds to /msg
[23:37] <eean> latch: if you want a more fun bot, try out insanity in #amarok ;)
[23:37] <dmcglone> Ha! Ha! I sure got kicked for that word.
[23:38] <stdin> no, you got /removed for it
[23:38] <dmcglone> oh well either way
[23:38] <latch> (omfg! thats awesome!)
[23:38] <dmcglone> I wanted to change my nick from david__ to dmcglone anyhow
[23:39]  * Alethes wonders what the "d" stands for in dmcglone's nick
[23:39] <Alethes> ok not really
[23:39] <Alethes> :D
[23:39] <dmcglone> david of course
[23:40] <dmcglone> Maybe I should change my nick to "fsck_it"
[23:42] <dmcglone> Well last night this place was hoppin with questions. Looks like Kubuntu really does "just work" :-)
[23:42] <sourcemaker> well... I have tested compiz now... it is not really nice :-)
[23:43] <sourcemaker> it's a memory consuming.... not more
[23:43] <dmcglone> I had a couple problems with it when I initially set it up
[23:44] <dmcglone> how do you change your nicks on the fly?
[23:44] <compbrain> use /nick
[23:44] <dmcglone> ah Ok thanks
[23:45] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: this forum is amazing... a lot of geeks here with all the right answers... nice man :-)
[23:46] <dmcglone> I ain't no geek
[23:46] <dmcglone> got the answers, yes, geek, no!
[23:47] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: This is a great channel for alot of linux problems.  I come here as the more in depth sites slam you for some of the slightest sh!t like #debian and #gentoo
[23:47] <genii> sourcemaker: geek = circus performer that eats live animals
[23:48] <NeoFax> trappist: Fixed my problem by making a symbolic link from libmysqlclient_r.so.15 to libmysqlclient_r.so.  The latter file was missing.
[23:48] <dmcglone> Neo and source, you should subscribe to the kubuntu mailing list
[23:48] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: you are right... I have also leaved gentoo...(after using 5 years) *g*
[23:49] <SR-latch> where's the kubuntu mailing list?
[23:50] <dmcglone> http://www.kubuntu.org/forums
[23:50] <dmcglone> oops
[23:50] <stdin> SR-latch: http://lists.ubuntu.com
[23:50] <dmcglone> wrong url
[23:50] <SR-latch> ok ok i found it :D
[23:51] <sourcemaker> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
[23:51] <dmcglone> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
[23:51] <dmcglone> I've been on the list for about 2 years, it's the best mailing list i've ever been on.
[23:52] <dmcglone> we laugh and joke all day long.
[23:52] <SR-latch> thanx guys :D
[23:52] <SR-latch> didn't knew there was one
[23:52] <dmcglone> every distro has a mailing list
[23:54] <LinuxReign> have u guys tried ETQW?
[23:54] <dmcglone> it's pretty slow in here today
[23:55] <dmcglone> no LinuxReign, what is it?
[23:55] <sourcemaker> I have read that the kde 4.0 release will be available this month. Do you think that it is stable for productive use?
[23:55] <LinuxReign> Enemy Territory Quake Wars, http://www.etqw.com/
[23:56] <LinuxReign> it has a Linux installer already
[23:56] <dmcglone> I heard it wasn't going to be all that sourcemaker.
[23:56] <SR-latch> you have to buy the game though
[23:56] <dmcglone> Oh I see linux
[23:56] <SR-latch> i was playing tremoulous
[23:56] <LinuxReign> nice
[23:56] <SR-latch> highly addictive
[23:56] <stdin> sourcemaker: it won't release until around mid jan
[23:56] <sourcemaker> dmcglone: ok...
[23:58] <sourcemaker> stdin: ok... I hope that it won't release unti it is  stable for productive use :-)
[23:58] <stdin> it'll be stable enough, don't expect it to be fully usable for all users until 4.1
[23:59] <LinuxReign> i will wait until kde4 becomes full stable b4 install it on my main system