[00:00] <dr_willis> The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown.
[00:00] <wesley> own like that
[00:00] <dr_willis> freedesktop.org is also having the issue..
[00:00] <dr_willis> seems they got some server issues going on.. or somthing
[00:02] <ANEX> wrks fine for me
[00:03] <snakeface> look you guys this is out of control.  everything is insanely slow.  and it keeps crashing.  i am installing opensuse.  i dont care if they did sign a contract with m$ i cant take it anymore.
[00:04] <DaSkreech> snakeface: What Video card?
[00:04] <snakeface> its an intel onboard.
[00:04] <snakeface> 856m i think ill have to check again
[00:04]  * dr_willis has missed most of the problem...
[00:05] <snakeface> 865 actually.
[00:05] <snakeface> i love the ubuntu community to death, but i am just going to have to back off until things get worked out.  because i cant install kde3 again...
[00:07] <DaSkreech> you can actually
[00:07] <snakeface> not on intrepid
[00:07] <BluesKaj> snakeface, did you getting a restricted driver option , when you first installed kubuntu ?
[00:07] <DaSkreech> Why don't you just turn off compositing
[00:07] <PSiL0> snakeface: I had the same problem with fedora 10's OSS ati drivers they used.  Made KDE slow as hell.. I came to Kubuntu for their seamless integration of the proprietary fglrx drivers
[00:07] <snakeface> BluesKaj: no.
[00:07] <PSiL0> snakeface: Go with what works
[00:08] <snakeface> I am keeping kubuntu on my laptop though.  it runs fine with my ati card.
[00:08] <BluesKaj> intel onboard graphics usually work fine afaik
[00:08] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: There is no restricted driver for an Intel card
[00:08] <BluesKaj> ok
[00:08] <DaSkreech> snakeface: what happens if you turn off compositing?
[00:08] <dr_willis> i find kde4 sluggish on most all my hardware. :(
[00:09] <snakeface> i have just been working on this for so many hours, and it is so hard to work on because everything is so slow....
[00:09] <snakeface> DaSkreech: nothing.  still get massive distortion and corruption and slowness.
[00:09] <DaSkreech> snakeface: ugh
[00:10] <snakeface> This is a very old computer.  I might just have to switch to gnome or something less heavy.
[00:10] <lindows> Hello
[00:10] <PSiL0> ahh bingo
[00:10] <lindows> ??
[00:10] <ANEX> lol
[00:10] <snakeface> as soon as i can get a usb keyboard, i am just going to set up my t60 laptop as my desktop
[00:10] <lindows> hehe?
[00:10] <sigma20> so does dragon player have any notable new features in 4.2?
[00:10] <lindows> I see
[00:10] <lindows> Hmmm/..
[00:11] <lindows> "D
[00:11] <lindows> :D
[00:11] <lindows> Interesting
[00:11] <ANEX> jell o l
[00:11] <DaSkreech> snakeface: What's the specs?
[00:11] <lindows> I seee
[00:11] <snakeface> 512 ram, p4, onboard intel video.
[00:11] <DaSkreech> sigma20: Didn't notice anything
[00:11] <lindows> My PC is a Dell Inspire 9200
[00:11] <lindows> inspiron
[00:12] <ANEX> Acer aspire one
[00:12] <snakeface> its a dell diminsion something
[00:12] <DaSkreech> snakeface: Mine has less power :)
[00:13] <DaSkreech> Well other than the Videocard :(
[00:13] <snakeface> the t60 has 4g ram and is awesome to the max
[00:13] <snakeface> the vido card is the big issue.  and i cant find one that will fit in it.
[00:13] <ANEX> I'll try not 2 destroy my acer when I upgrade the ram
[00:14] <Cannon> hey guys, how do I perminently mount a hdd?
[00:14] <Adola> Perminetly?
[00:14] <Adola> Like..Installing an HDD?
[00:14] <Adola> Did you buy your HDD OEM?
[00:15] <Adola> Or did it come with cables?
[00:17] <Cannon> i mean to mount it so I can access my music from it Adola
[00:17] <dr_willis> USB or internal drive?
[00:17] <dr_willis> what filesystem?
[00:17] <Cannon> internal
[00:17] <Cannon> ntfs
[00:17] <Adola> Ok.  Well.
[00:17] <dr_willis> Whats the air speed of a sparrow?
[00:17] <dr_willis> :P
[00:17] <Adola> Do you have the HDD?
[00:17] <Adola> On you?
[00:17] <Cannon> lol
[00:17] <Cannon> it's all connected up
[00:17] <Adola> 40 knots.
[00:17] <dr_willis> generate a proper  line in /etc/fstab for the drive using the ntfs-config tool. Is one way to get it done
[00:18] <dr_willis> eee
[00:18] <Cannon> netsplit ftl
[00:18] <Cannon> i ALWAYS seem to survive em though! :P
[00:18] <dr_willis> Pow!
[00:18] <dr_willis> :)
[00:19] <ANEX> nice
[00:20] <DaSkreech> snakeface: fit it?
[00:21] <DaSkreech> !fstab | Cannon
[00:22] <DaSkreech> Cannon: Everyone survives a netsplit :)
[00:23] <Cannon> not if they don't have autojoin DaSkreech, lol
[00:23] <DaSkreech> You don't get kicked by a netsplit
[00:26] <snakeface> DaSkreech:  Fit what now?
[00:27] <DaSkreech> snakeface: You said you couldn't get one to fit it
[00:28] <snakeface> on its a regualr pci slot, and i couldnt find one at the shop.
[00:29] <snakeface> no pci express.
[00:51] <e-head> hey, what's the name of the KDE admin console?
[00:51] <e-head> I'm on ssh, trying to tunnel it over here.
[00:53] <brahman> #kubuntu-es
[00:55] <DaSkreech> e-head: What?
[00:55] <DaSkreech> snakeface: oooooh Yeah
[00:55] <e-head> i'm just trying to start up the KDE admin console.
[00:55] <e-head> So I can change the KDE theme.
[00:55] <e-head> you know what it's name is?
[00:56] <DaSkreech> ah
[00:56] <DaSkreech> systemsettings
[00:56] <e-head> thanks
[01:27] <wers> i'm on intrepid and just installed the kde4 packages from the unstable repo. it caused conflicts. now, i want to remove my kde4 packages and reinstall them so its clean. i uninstalled kubuntu-desktop but it only removed the metapackage
[01:27] <wers> how do i remove the kde4 packages? is tehre a metapackage for that?
[01:34] <DaSkreech> wers: Remove kdelibs5
[01:34] <Zehava> I am using Kubuntu Hardy, how can I add a new group/user please?
[01:34] <r11t> Does anyone know how I prevent  "Update Notifier" from notifying to upgrade two particular packages?
[01:35] <wers> thanks DaSkreech :D
[01:35] <DaSkreech> Zehava: KDE3?
[01:35] <Zehava> kde4
[01:35] <DaSkreech> r11t: Pin them in aptitude
[01:35] <DaSkreech> Zehava: System Settings -> users and groups
[01:36] <r11t> DaSkreech: I tried using sudo aptitude hold package_name
[01:36] <r11t> it still notifies me that I can upgrade that package
[01:36] <Zehava> DaSkreech Users and Groups does not exist in the System Settings General or Advanced tab
[01:37] <Zehava> I just now installed kusers-kde4 I should probably log out/in to activate it?
[01:47] <yaoyong> Hello
[01:48] <DaSkreech> !hi
[01:50] <Zehava> is it possible, and at what difficulty level(as I'm new to linux as a whole) to remove kde4 and install kde3 instead on Kubuntu Hardy?
[01:53] <JontheEchidna> Zehava: probably install kubuntu-desktop, and remove kdelibs5 (yes, 5)
[01:54] <Zehava> and that won't totally fry my system? it will just remove those things in turn?
[01:54] <JontheEchidna> removing kdelibs5 should remove everything kde4 related
[01:54] <JontheEchidna> and installing kubuntu-deskotp will give you all the software in a kubuntu-kde3 install
[01:54] <Zehava> alright, it's a start, thanks a ton
[02:12] <dacarpe> alguém aí pra ajudar um recém chegado ao kubuntu?
[02:13] <JontheEchidna> !es | dacarpe
[02:14] <dacarpe> en esta saleta se habla espanhol?
[02:14] <wesley> I have found a way to get a screensaver thats made for Windows working if, i know how to convert a wsf file
[02:14] <dacarpe> wow
[02:14] <alex_21> Hi, all, I need a good music player to do the following I have a firefly server, but I don't know what to use to see the music from the server Firefly is like the share ITunes library option, but on Linux I need a client like Banshee or somehing, and how to use it to listen to daap
[02:14] <dacarpe> I didnt know
[02:14] <dacarpe> sorry
[02:15] <dacarpe> im from brazil and i thoght that the irc channel were already in portuguese
[02:15] <alex_21> Anyone know how to use Amerarock to play something, I can't figure it out
[02:15] <wesley> Americarock?
[02:16] <wesley> how do i convert a swf to gif ?
[02:17] <alex_21> Amerock, the GNome music player
[02:20] <jmichaelx> the gnome music player?
[02:20] <alex_21> Yes
[02:20] <jmichaelx> lol, since when?
[02:21] <alex_21> Since when, what?
[02:21] <jmichaelx> alex_21: amerok is the KDE music player, not gnome.
[02:21] <jmichaelx> in order to play music, you will need to have your codecs installed
[02:22] <wesley> jmichael do you know how to convert a swf to gif ?
[02:22] <jmichaelx> alex_21: if you haven't already, run this in a terminal 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras'
[02:22] <alex_21> How do you do this, I need MP3 and the like, and only have mplayer installed with only acess to the command line
[02:23] <jmichaelx> wesley: i do not know. try google.
[02:24] <wesley> because i have found out that screensaver is just a swf file
[02:25] <alex_21> Oh, ok, I see, blind smileym, or not, but anyway, now that that is installed will I be able to use Amerarock to play this stuff over the network
[02:25] <alex_21> ?
[02:25] <wesley> and Linux should be able to play and convert swf files
[02:25] <jmichaelx> alex_21: i have never tried that with amerok, although it may be able to do what you want
[02:26] <wesley> its called Amarok
[02:26] <wers> how do I change screen brightness on kde4? :D
[02:26] <jmichaelx> yes, amarok. sorry for the misspelling.
[02:27] <alex_21> Ok, confused smiley, then how would I do this
[02:28] <alex_21> I mean, I can't play the music in my local collection either
[02:29] <jmichaelx> i am not sure alex. try the forums. the way i play networked music is using a command line player called moc, and using ssh or sshfs. kind of complicated... but i am sure there are simpler ways.
[02:30] <alex_21> Anyone ever used ATunes?
[02:33] <inaety> Does anyone know how I can find out the "Video Profile" of a video file?
[02:35] <alex_21> Hi, all, I need a good music player to do the following I have a firefly server, but I don't know what to use to see the music from the server Firefly is like the share ITunes library option, but on Linux I need a client like Banshee or somehing, and how to use it to listen to daap
[02:36] <alex_21> Preferably gnome based
[02:38] <barclay> :)
[02:41] <jmod> :)
[02:50] <skii69> i was woundering, how can one know there password's if they don't remember them???
[02:51] <jmod> lol
[02:51] <skii69> i reformat the hard drive and now i don't remember any of password's to any website account's or even the im's
[02:51] <skii69> yeah i know laugh it up
[02:51] <solid_liq> that's what backups are for
[02:52] <skii69> i know that now
[02:52] <skii69> i'm still try'n to get the hang of linux after useing it for like 3 to 4 week's
[02:52] <solid_liq> skii69: and the foxmarks plugin for firefox saves your bookmarks and passwords to a central server
[02:52] <jmod> live and learn that's what many do
[02:53] <skii69> got it jmod
[02:53] <skii69> solid_liq: ok and i'm srry to say i do NOT know what ur talk'n about
[02:58] <jmod> well if you can still get into your email and asuming you've used the same email to register your "website" account's you could go to each account and tell them you've forgot the password.
[02:59] <bunns> Hi, I have a question about openarena...does anyone here play ? I changed monitors from an old 19" crt to a 15" flat panel, and now the resolution is all screwed up...I tried changing it in game, and that doesn't work, and I deleted everything in .openarena, to wipe out old settings.....and that didn't work either.....anyone have any idea's ?
[03:01] <solid_liq> skii69 - in Firefox, Tools->Addons->Get Addons   search for foxmarks, and install it ;)
[03:01] <jmod> skii has left
[03:07] <faunris> Hello all? my friends
[03:08] <jmod> hello
[03:08] <Adola> Hey!
[03:08] <jmod> yo
[03:08] <faunris> I'm Russian, i very bad speak english :)
[03:09] <faunris> Гы, не поймёте нихера =D
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> !ru
[03:15] <bazhang> faunris, /join #ubuntu-ru
[03:15] <faunris> гы
[03:15] <faunris> thanks
[03:23] <snakeface> heres a lol.  after all of this, i cant even burn a cd to get another distro on here.
[03:24] <snakeface> why wont it let me burn a cd?
[03:30] <bunns> does it give an error when you try to burn a cd ?
[03:43] <linux29684> anyone know how to make the /etc/resolv.conf static?
[03:48] <linux29684> anyone know how to make the /etc/resolv.conf static?
[03:50] <e-head> what's the plasma dashboard all about?
[03:53] <pirky> hello
[03:53] <stdin> linux29684: try using "supersede domain-name-servers DNS0 DNS1 DNS2;" in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf (see man dhclient.conf)
[03:54] <stdin> e-head: it just shows all the applets you have
[03:54] <linux29684> let me try that
[03:54] <linux29684> i thought i tried it once
[03:55] <pirky> i am trying to get firefox to associate a torrent file with ktorrent but when I download the file and choose 'open with' i don't know where to look
[03:55] <stdin> pirky: /usr/bin/ktorrent
[03:55] <pirky> stdin: thanks i thought i tried that let me try again
[03:56] <linux29684> stdin: let me trya  reboot and see if that works
[03:57] <pirky> stdin: that worked not sure where i was looking
[03:58] <e-head> ahh
[03:58] <stdin> you'll find most installed applications in /usr/bin
[03:58] <e-head> thanks.
[03:58] <pirky> is the only way to get openoffice 3 still to download the file and manually install
[03:59] <stdin> seeing is it's not part of intrepid, yeah
[04:00] <linux29684> stdin: didn't work
[04:00] <linux29684> when i rebooted, it went back to the same dns settings
[04:01] <linux29684> the sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf didn't work either
[04:01] <skii69> what's the website for the paste bin thing???
[04:01] <stdin> linux29684: try using "prepend" instead of "supersede"
[04:01] <stdin> !paste | skii69
[04:01] <linux29684> that is what it was before supersede
[04:02] <linux29684> try it again anyway?
[04:02] <skii69> the reason why is cuz i'm trying to run Stepmania and it's NOT work'n so i am gonna paste it and hopefully someone can help me out with it???
[04:02] <stdin> it should work if you use DHCP
[04:02] <linux29684> the vpn client won't clean the dns up
[04:03] <linux29684> how can i test to see if anything works without rebooting?
[04:03] <linux29684> and is there a certain way to lock the /etc/resolv.conf from changing?
[04:03] <skii69> http://paste.ubuntu.com/81723/
[04:04] <skii69> can someone help me with stepmania???
[04:04] <skii69> that's the link in my terminal on what i got from trying to run it
[04:04] <skii69> from trying to run stepmania
[04:05] <stdin> linux29684: you could try a "workaround", edit /etc/rc.local and put in something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/81725/
[04:05] <linux29684> stdin: put everything from cat to EOF?
[04:06] <skii69> can anyone help me out???
[04:06] <linux29684> or just the nameservers
[04:06] <stdin> linux29684: the whole thing, it will put everything between "cat << EOF > /etc/resolv.conf" and "EOF" into /etc/resolv.conf
[04:07] <linux29684> ok, and does a /etc/init.d/networking restart allow me to check w/o reboot?
[04:07] <stdin> linux29684: it will do that after the system has booted, but I don't know if network manager will try to overwrite it on connect
[04:07] <linux29684> i'll try again, rebooting
[04:08] <skii69> can anyone help me out with stepmania???
[04:08] <stdin> skii69: I suggest you try http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/User_Help_and_Support
[04:09] <snakeface> someone has to have had this cd burning problem before
[04:09] <skii69> i already did and still got no where
[04:10] <snakeface> intrepid will not recognize a blank cd.
[04:10] <stdin> skii69: well we can't really help, as we have nothing to do with that product or how it works
[04:10] <linux29684> stdin: still no go
[04:10] <stdin> linux29684: what get's put into /etc/resolv.conf after you connect?
[04:11] <linux29684> the vpn dns servers (even though the kvpnc is not running)
[04:11] <skii69> stepmania is a dance game
[04:11] <skii69> lol
[04:11] <skii69> lot's of ppl know that
[04:11] <skii69> lol
[04:11] <stdin> skii69: well, lol, we don't make it
[04:11] <snakeface> i imagine this is a regular issue, but i cant find it on the forums.  i heard someone in here asking about it yesterday
[04:11] <skii69> i know
[04:11] <skii69> lol
[04:11] <[skysurfer]> hey guys, every time my kernel upgrades, my machine wont boot. It updates my /boot/grub/menu.lst file with the new kernel info (like it should) but grub gets the root entry wrong. It updates it as (hd4,0) but it should be (hd0,0). Just wondering if there is a way i can fix this so when updates come down I don thave to edit the boot command from grubs menu to get my system up again.
[04:11] <skii69> go to www.stepmania.com and u will learn about it really fast
[04:11] <skii69> ^_^
[04:12] <snakeface> i want to play a dance game
[04:12] <skii69> i am trying to get it to work on my computer but i can't and it's gett'n me very mad
[04:12] <snakeface> its for linux?
[04:12] <skii69> yes
[04:12] <snakeface> sweet.
[04:12] <stdin> skii69: we can't help with it because we don't make it or have any technical knowledge of it
[04:12] <skii69> it's for window's, linux and mac
[04:12] <linux29684> not for me
[04:12] <stdin> skii69: you'll have to ask them
[04:12] <skii69> don't be an ass
[04:12] <linux29684> stdin: what about putting that data in all the rc.x?
[04:13] <stdin> skii69: read the channel topic, this is Kubuntu support, not anything-under-the-sun support
[04:13] <skii69> like i said, do NOT be an ass
[04:13] <snakeface> but srsly, does anyone know anything about why i cant burn a cd? it must be something rather simple.
[04:13] <stdin> linux29684: /etc/rc.local get's ran after everything at boot
[04:13] <bazhang> skii69, please stop
[04:14] <pirky> i just reinstalled 8.10 and updated fully and upon reboot grub lists xxxx.9 kernal and xxxx.7
[04:15] <pirky> is space being taken up since it hasn't let go of the older kernal 'so to speak'
[04:15] <snakeface> that game he was talking about does look awesome.  but about this cd burning project...
[04:15] <linux29684> stdin: all the data is still in the rc.local, what runs after that that can change the dns servers (the dns appears to be the same the kvpnc uses)
[04:15] <snakeface> I can't burn one with my laptop or desktop.  I never needed to until now.
[04:16] <snakeface> i put the cd in and it spins, but it is not recognized.
[04:16] <stdin> pirky: probably about 10MB
[04:16] <linux29684> snakeface: maybe try the network boot ubuntu cd?
[04:16] <stdin> linux29684: so it's something which happens after you login that's changing it
[04:17] <linux29684> stdin: it appears so
[04:17] <linux29684> stdin: let me check htop to see if a vpn client is running
[04:17] <e-head> so, is there anything better than this Adept program?
[04:17] <linux29684> apt-get
[04:17] <stdin> depends on what you mean by better, there are alternatives
[04:17] <e-head> yeah.  ;)
[04:17] <snakeface> linux29684: what do you mean?  I just want to burn a cd.
[04:17] <linux29684> synaptic
[04:17] <pirky> synaptic is what i use instead of adept
[04:17] <e-head> hmm. I might give it a try.
[04:18] <pirky> apt-get install synaptic
[04:18] <e-head> I've used linux for years but I've never really used a desktop.  I thought I would give KDE a try.
[04:18] <e-head> I like it a lot. It's much smoother than it was years ago.
[04:18] <e-head> But this adept program sort of seems like it's from another era or something.
[04:18] <linux29684> stdin: dhcdbd looks suspecious, maybe that could be changing it?
[04:18] <stdin> if you're using Intrepid, then it's brand new
[04:19] <pirky> i do not like adept manager
[04:19] <snakeface> i like the older version better.
[04:19] <e-head> I've just always used apt/dpkg.
[04:19] <e-head> which is probably just as good as any GUI manager, but...
[04:19] <snakeface> that works best
[04:19] <pirky> why is grub listing .7 and .9 kernels after update, should i remove one
[04:19] <e-head> over all this new KDE4 is pretty slick.
[04:19] <snakeface> there is really no need for a gui package manager
[04:19] <e-head> I may be persuaded to give up some of my console apps.
[04:20] <snakeface> but does anyone know why i cant burn a cd?
[04:21] <stdin> linux29684: that looks like it's a service to get return dhcp configuration
[04:21] <pirky> found the fix
[04:21] <stdin> linux29684: do you use knetworkmanager?
[04:21] <e-head> hey! No package for katapult?
[04:21] <linux29684> stdin: let me check the services starting up then, no, i used ubuntu intrepid, but they sent me here
[04:21] <e-head> is there another "launchy" type app for kde?
[04:21] <stdin> linux29684: so you use the network applet thing?
[04:21] <linux29684> stdin: #ubuntu sent me here because they said yall might know the answer
[04:22] <linux29684> yes, but not for vpnc
[04:22] <linux29684> i use kvpnc which uses vpnc i think for the vpn (which should not startup)
[04:22] <linux29684> (and i don't think it is starting up)
[04:22] <stdin> well that's usually responsible for writing /etc/resolv.conf
[04:22] <stdin> does the 1st line of the file have "# Generated by NetworkManager" ?
[04:22] <linux29684> stdin: but it doesn't even start up and it keeps changing it, and then when i open and close it, it doesn't restore dns
[04:23] <linux29684> let me check
[04:23] <snakeface> its frustrating you guys wont acknowledge me.  i really need to burn a cd.
[04:23] <linux29684> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[04:23] <stdin> ok
[04:23] <stdin> so it's getting that from DHCP somewhere
[04:24] <stdin> is your VPN network up?
[04:24] <linux29684> they are dns servers that only the vpn would have changed (not opendns's)
[04:24] <linux29684> no
[04:24] <linux29684> whatismyip.com is my ip
[04:24] <jmichaelx> snakeface: a person has to log an undisclosed number of hours in this channel before one is acknowledged.
[04:25] <jmichaelx> snakeface: in fact, i am probably somewhat out of line in speaking to you at all at this point
[04:25] <stdin> linux29684: does anything like the vpn show in "ifconfig"?
[04:25] <scott97283429871> anyone familiar with ati drivers?
[04:25] <linux29684> no, just eth0 (wire), eth1 (wifi), and lo
[04:25] <stdin> snakeface: if no one knows, then no one answers
[04:26] <jmichaelx> snakeface: i'm hope you know i'm teasing.... what kind of CD are you trying to burn?
[04:26] <stdin> !ati | scott97283429871
[04:29] <stdin> linux29684: when you connect now, do you manually set the DNS servers?
[04:29] <linux29684> stdin: yes
[04:30] <linux29684> stdin: the dns servers for the vpn don't work on all domains
[04:30] <linux29684> stdin: for example: it resolves google, but not ubuntu.com or clusty (univ dns servers)
[04:31] <stdin> as far as I know, if you're getting the DNS from it, the network must have been connected (or attempted to connect). so I think it's an issue with Network Manager
[04:32] <linux29684> stdin: i strongly agree
[04:32] <linux29684> stdin: but i don't know how to get enough details to report it as a bug
[04:32] <stdin> I'm just trying to figure out where it stores the information of what to connect to
[04:32] <linux29684> stdin: and traceroutes do not go through the vpn unless i connect
[04:33] <jmichaelx> there have been several people in here the last week or so complaining about similar DNS issues
[04:33] <linux29684> it might have been me, i have had this problem for a while
[04:34] <linux29684> and no one anywhere knows how to fix it
[04:34] <linux29684> i am not sure if its the ubuntu network manager or the kubuntu vpn gui
[04:34] <linux29684> (kvpnc)
[04:34] <jmichaelx> were you using different nicknames?
[04:34] <linux29684> no, this same one
[04:34] <jmichaelx> i don't think it was you then.
[04:36] <linux29684> i wonder why i can't simply reinstall the network component of ubuntu?
[04:36] <scott97283429871> can anyone give me a hand with my video driver
[04:37] <Dr_willis> I dont mess with ati much any more.. so cant help
[04:37] <scott97283429871> well, its not even that so much anymore
[04:37] <jmichaelx> i had tried to log in to the VPN at the campus where i take classes using network manager, and got nowhere. i don't know whether that is my fault, or an issue with network manager. i eventually started using a bash script provided by the school to connect, which is working just fine.
[04:37] <linux29684> stdin: what if i add a chmod 444 /etc/resolv.conf to a script before most programs startup?
[04:38] <linux29684> jmichaelx: kvpnc works fine for vpn connection
[04:38] <scott97283429871> i had everything working, i downloaded envyng, and that dl'ed the driver for me
[04:38] <stdin> linux29684: it could work, I've never tried it
[04:38] <scott97283429871> and it was going good.  but i have two monitors so i wanted to set them both up.
[04:38] <jmichaelx> linux29684: that is good to know
[04:38] <scott97283429871> i went into displayconfig-gtk, and enabled my second monitor and said extend the desktop
[04:38] <linux29684> stdin: do you know the script to edit with the chmod 444 /etc/resolv.conf?
[04:39] <scott97283429871> and it said i had to restart.  so when i restarted, now i cant find a driver that wil work.  everythiing i try .   it always ends up havingg to go into safe graphics mode
[04:40] <scott97283429871> how can i even like revert to the very origional driver?
[04:40] <linux29684> stdin: or better yet, can i search inside files for the actual dns ip that it keeps changing it to to see where it originates from?
[04:40] <bigdaddy> Hello, is there som1 who can help wif playin DVD & Kubuntu?
[04:40] <jmichaelx> !multimedia | bigdaddy
[04:40] <stdin> linux29684: maybe search for in in ~/.kde
[04:41] <bigdaddy> did search & no luv there, ver is 8.01?
[04:41] <stdin> linux29684: failing that, you could edit /etc/init.d/NetworkManager and put the chmod line in before the "case "$1" in" part
[04:41] <bigdaddy> i am a newbie*, lol
[04:43] <snakeface> jmichaelx: the blank cd is not recognized at all.
[04:43] <jmichaelx> bigdaddy: reading those docks will help you. for one thing, you will need to install a meta-package called 'kubuntu-restricted-extras', but some things will need to be done before you can download and install those packages.
[04:43] <ScarySquirrel> Point me to the md5 sums for the "kubuntu-8.10-dvd-amd64.iso" file.
[04:44] <jmichaelx> snakeface: have you opened K3B after the CD has been inserted?
[04:44] <bigdaddy> k, tq 4 yur help so far
[04:44] <snakeface> jmichaelx: yes.
[04:44] <stdin> ScarySquirrel: should be located at the same place you downloaded it from
[04:45] <jmichaelx> snakeface: and even K3B is behaving as if no blank CD is present?
[04:45] <jmichaelx> docs*
[04:45] <scrote> do you want to Fuck with me?
[04:45]  * scrote pulls out a big knife
[04:45] <jmichaelx> sounds like scrote wants to be banned
[04:46] <ScarySquirrel> stdin:  I thought so, but the web page at "http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download" lists no md5 sums, or any "hashes" for that matter.
[04:46] <stdin> ScarySquirrel: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/8.10/release/MD5SUMS
[04:46] <ScarySquirrel> stdin:  I thank you.
[04:47] <stdin> :)
[04:47] <ScarySquirrel> stdin: Is there an easy way for me to return the favor?
[04:47] <scott97283429871> can someone please help with video drivers
[04:47] <linux29684> stdin: i found out 100% its a bug in kpvnc
[04:47] <jabrroa> hello everyone
[04:47] <stdin> ScarySquirrel: don't worry about it
[04:48] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: have you read through any of the documentation on installing the drivers for your video adapter?
[04:48] <stdin> linux29684: then I guess it's time to file a bug
[04:48] <scott97283429871> yeah
[04:48] <scott97283429871> i actually had everything working
[04:48] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: what adapter is it?
[04:48] <scott97283429871> its an ati radeon 9600
[04:48] <linux29684> kvpnc has a file called resolv.conf.before.kvpnc_certificate_name
[04:48] <scott97283429871> but i have 2 monitors, and i wanted to get them both working
[04:49] <linux29684> it is supposed to change that name after it quits / disconnects
[04:49] <scott97283429871> so i went into displayconfig, and said to enable my second monitor and extend the desktop
[04:49] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: ahh, i have very little experience with using two monitors on one system.
[04:49] <scott97283429871> and i had to restart after that.  but when i did, its like everything is messed up now
[04:49] <scott97283429871> i cant find a driver thatll actually work
[04:50] <scott97283429871> everytime i end up having to go into safe graphics mode
[04:50] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: i presume you are using fglrx?
[04:50] <scott97283429871> yes
[04:50] <jmichaelx> hmm
[04:50] <scott97283429871> im pretty new to linux, so i might be missing something stupid
[04:50] <scott97283429871> when i got it working the first time, i dled envyng, and it downloaded the approperate driver and set it up for me
[04:51] <scott97283429871> and i had the catalyst thing for ati.  but since this happened, I cant even open the catalyst center thing because it always says that i dont have an ati dcard installed
[04:52] <scott97283429871> any ideas like how to reset my video stuff?
[04:52] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: your adapter does show up as ATI when you enter 'lspci' in a terminal, doesn't it?
[04:53] <scott97283429871> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]
[04:53] <bigdaddy> i hav just looked @ da link re media players, downloaded and still no joy in watchin DVD's.
[04:53] <bigdaddy> I am now confused
[04:54] <jmichaelx> bigdaddy: you went through the process of enabling repositories and adding repositories?
[04:54] <bigdaddy> i think so !!!
[04:54] <jmichaelx> bigdaddy: did you add the medibuntu repository?
[04:55] <bigdaddy> jmichaelx: no
[04:55] <szrhawaii> anyone know the link on how to make iso files
[04:55] <jmichaelx> bigdaddy: ok, i am fairly sure those docs would have instructed you to do that.
[04:55] <szrhawaii> oh i meant so files
[04:55] <jmichaelx> !iso | szrhawaii
[04:55] <szrhawaii> i dont need that i need so
[04:55] <stdin> so files? you mean compiling them?
[04:56] <jmichaelx> ahh, so
[04:56] <jmichaelx> sorry
[04:56] <stdin> !compile
[04:56] <szrhawaii> theres like a link for .so files
[04:56] <bigdaddy> jmichaelx: k, will look @ that, tq so far
[04:57] <szrhawaii> but that will work to
[04:57] <szrhawaii> !so
[04:57] <scott97283429871> so why is it that my video card is recognized, but i cant get any drivers to work?
[04:57] <szrhawaii> i want to make my own splash for my login thats why
[04:57] <stdin> maybe you mean
[04:57] <stdin> !lib-p-g
[04:58] <stdin> !usplash
[04:58] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: you've got me. have you tried removing/purging fglrx, and re-installing?
[04:58] <scott97283429871> umm no, im so new to this is sad
[04:58] <scott97283429871> all ive done is install the driver and manage to screw it up
[04:58] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: believe me, i have been there
[04:59] <scott97283429871> lol
[04:59] <kelly> wow
[04:59] <scott97283429871> so how do i remove it?
[04:59] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: how did you install your driver to begin with?
[04:59] <Dr_willis> sadly ATI and NVIDIA both give Linux the short end of the stuck at imes.
[04:59] <Dr_willis> For a long tiem for my ati cards i just used the ATI drivers, not the fglrx one
[04:59] <scott97283429871> i downloaded envyNG
[04:59] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: that's for sure
[04:59] <scott97283429871> and said automatically download approperate driver
[04:59] <Eruaran> hello
[04:59] <scott97283429871> and it was working awesome
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Normal order i try things.. Repo Drivers, ENVY NG tool, then the ATI.com drivers...
[05:00] <kelly> cool
[05:00] <szrhawaii> those might work
[05:00] <Dr_willis> so it was working then is stopped?  stopped when?
[05:00] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: i believe that envy should also allow you to un-install the driver
[05:00] <scott97283429871> well the problem with the driver from ATI
[05:00] <Dr_willis> If you ued envyng - every time the kernel gets updates.. you may need to rerun envyng
[05:00] <scott97283429871> is it had dependencies like XFree86-mesa something
[05:00] <scott97283429871> and i couldnt find anywhere to get those
[05:00] <Eruaran> I tried to upgrade to KDE 4.2 beta 1 and screwed up my KDE install... can anyone tell me the best way of restoring things back to the way they were ?
[05:00] <jmichaelx> yeah, good point
[05:01] <scott97283429871> so thats why i was going with envy
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Eruaran,  You have screwed it up? or is this theroet0cal :)
[05:01] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: try using envy to remove your driver
[05:01] <jmichaelx> and then re-install it
[05:01] <scott97283429871> okay
[05:02] <scott97283429871> you wouldnt happen to have any idea how to go about that? :D
[05:02] <jmichaelx> well, run the envy GUI, to start with, and see if it gives you that option
[05:02] <Dr_willis> rerun envyng :)
[05:02] <scott97283429871> well
[05:03] <scott97283429871> i have no idea how to get to the gui
[05:03] <bigdaddy> jmichaelx: runnin "hardy hero"
[05:03] <Eruaran> Dr_willis: Yes I have screwed it up :P
[05:03] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: do you not have X at all right now?
[05:03] <scott97283429871> i dont know what X is.  all i know is when i booted it went into safe graphics mode
[05:03] <scott97283429871> and this is where I'm at now
[05:04] <jmichaelx> bigdaddy: visit this site, and follow the instructions it gives you for hardy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[05:04] <scott97283429871> if i do locate envy, this is the only thing i get. envy24_control.desktop.
[05:04] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: 'X' is just your graphical display
[05:04] <scott97283429871> but if i run that it says access denied or something like that
[05:05] <scott97283429871> Oh, yeah I do have a gui
[05:05] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: hmm
[05:06] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: can you run 'kdesudo envyng' in a terminal?
[05:06] <scott97283429871> no, kdesudo isnt a program
[05:06] <scott97283429871> ill run apt-get
[05:07] <bigdaddy> jmichaelx:sorry 2 b a bother & tq 4 ur help
[05:07] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: use kdesudo instead of sudo, in this case
[05:07] <scott97283429871> what is kdesudo
[05:07] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: just copy and paste 'kdesudo envyng'
[05:07] <scott97283429871> is that like root lvl access?
[05:07] <jmichaelx> bigdaddy: it's no problem
[05:08] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: if that is what envyng is called, yes. it should ask for your password, and open the GUI for envy
[05:08] <scott97283429871> okay
[05:08] <scott97283429871> yes i have it up now
[05:09] <scott97283429871> oh, i can unistall the ati driver here
[05:09] <scott97283429871> try that yes?
[05:10] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: try removing the driver you have first
[05:10] <scott97283429871> ok i removed it, and i have to restart.  or should i try to install the new one w/o restarting?
[05:10] <jmichaelx> i think it gives that option
[05:10] <jmichaelx> no, go ahead no and install the ati driver
[05:10] <jmichaelx> now*
[05:10] <scott97283429871> okay
[05:11] <scott97283429871> running
[05:11] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: are you using hardy or intrepid?
[05:11] <scott97283429871> umm 8.04?
[05:12] <jmichaelx> ok, that is hardy. had you tried any other way to install your driver before you used envy?
[05:12] <scott97283429871> ok.  now i have to restart
[05:12] <scott97283429871> yes, I was going to use the driver i downloaded from ATI.com.  but i was reading the how to
[05:13] <scott97283429871> and it said i had to install XFree86-mesa-lib or something.  but I could't find that anywhere
[05:13] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: OK, it is hard for me to say, but i think it is very possible you would not have even had to use envy... but now that we have taken this route, reboot and see what we have
[05:13] <scott97283429871> okay, brb
[05:14] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: one sec
[05:14] <jmichaelx> well, i hope he has X working when he logs back in
[05:16] <linux29684> stdin: is there anything I should add to reporting the bug besides the kvpnc.log and resolv.conf?
[05:17] <stdin> linux29684: just what version of ubuntu and the software you're using
[05:18] <scott97283429871> no luck
[05:18] <scott97283429871> still safe graphics
[05:18] <linux29684> ok, inserted both of those already
[05:18] <linux29684> i hope the devs will have a field day with it
[05:19] <scott97283429871> you said something about purging flgrx??
[05:20] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: have you tried going into your system settings where you (sometimes) have the option of choosing which driver you want to use?
[05:21] <scott97283429871> no
[05:21] <scott97283429871> where do i go about doing that?
[05:21] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: click on your start button, and select 'system settings'
[05:22] <jmichaelx> the select 'display'
[05:22] <jmichaelx> then*
[05:22] <scott97283429871> i dont have a system settings button
[05:23] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: it will likely be at the very bottom of your menu.... you are using KDE, correct?
[05:23] <scott97283429871> again, not sure what KDE is.  its Ubuntu 8.04
[05:24] <jmichaelx> you're  not using Kubuntu?
[05:25] <scott97283429871> no im using ubuntu
[05:25] <scott97283429871> ohh, i get it wrong room
[05:26] <jmichaelx> ahh. well, this room is the support channel for Kubuntu. much is the same, but the GUI is different. ubuntu uses the Gnome desktop environment.. and i am not nearly as familiar with Gnome as i am with KDE
[05:26] <scott97283429871> oh, i c
[05:26] <scott97283429871> i just need to find like a control pannel in windows right?
[05:27] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: on the bar (called a 'panel') at the top of your screen, there should be a selection that says something like 'system' or something...
[05:27] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: yeah, same idea
[05:28] <scott97283429871> yeah
[05:28] <scott97283429871> i have like system>preferences, and administration
[05:28] <jmichaelx> ok, click 'system'... i think you should find 'display'or something similar under preferences
[05:29] <scott97283429871> i can go to screen resolution
[05:29] <scott97283429871> i can get to something called displayconfig
[05:30] <scott97283429871> i would assume thats probably like what your talking about
[05:30] <scott97283429871> thats where i set the drivers i want and everything
[05:30] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: well, somewhere in there, you should find something that allows you to select which driver you want to use
[05:30] <scott97283429871> yes
[05:30] <jmichaelx> ok, try that....
[05:30] <scott97283429871> yeah
[05:30] <jmichaelx> you want to select fglrx, if it is listed
[05:30] <scott97283429871> ive been here before
[05:31] <master_> What version of kubuntu has kde 4?
[05:31] <scott97283429871> i can select fglrx, or i can go to choose driver by model and do ati radeon(fglrx)
[05:31] <jmichaelx> master_: you can run KDE4 in 8.04, as an option, and KDE4 is the default in 8.10
[05:33] <master_> ok... downloading 8.10 now..
[05:33] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: hmm....i am not sure which to tell you to select. i think if you had gone to this at the beginning, it would likely have installed the driver for you. since you already have envy's driver, i am thinking you may just need to select 'fglrx'
[05:33] <scott97283429871> okay ill try that
[05:34] <scott97283429871> should i log out and back in or restart?
[05:34] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: in this whole process, you could lose your graphical display. do you have a way of coming back in here if that happens?
[05:35] <scott97283429871> no.  but everytime i mess it up it automaticallly goes into safe graphics mode if i cant boot normally
[05:35] <jmichaelx> ok, well that is a good deal
[05:35] <scott97283429871> thats actually how im here now.  it just used a generic driver i suppose
[05:35] <jmichaelx> yes... you could just retsart X, but why don't you just go ahead and reboot
[05:35] <scott97283429871> hey, so this is kinda stupid questin, but how do i respond to you instead of the whole room?
[05:36] <scott97283429871> like when you say stuff to me its yellow
[05:36] <scott97283429871> not exactly relevent to teh discussion, but im curious
[05:36] <jmichaelx> just type the first several letters of my nickname, and hit <TAB>
[05:37] <scott97283429871> jmichaelx: oh lol ok ty
[05:37] <scott97283429871> ok brb, restarting
[05:37] <jmichaelx> there you go
[05:37] <jmichaelx> ok
[05:40] <scott97283429871> jmichaelx: ok, no luck
[05:40] <scott97283429871> jmichaelx: is there someway to like completely reset my Xserver or something
[05:40] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: in this case, i am afraid i don't know what to tell you
[05:40] <scott97283429871> hmm
[05:41] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: you might try asking in #ubuntu
[05:41] <jmichaelx> unless someone else in here has more of a clue than i have
[05:41] <Derath> Question: how do I create shortcuts on the desktop? I liked having a shortcut to /home/user and /home/user/Documents?
[05:41] <scott97283429871> okay, i suppose ill do that.  would my xorg.conf offer any help?
[05:42] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: to be honest Xorg has changed so much the last year or so, that i am a bit lost anymore. a year ago, i think i could have told you exactly what to do, but not anymore
[05:43] <scott97283429871> oh, i see.  are there any other files relevent to my display?
[05:44] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: as a last ditch effort, you could try entering 'gksudo displayconfig-gtk' in a terminal, and trying selecting yourdriver one more time.
[05:45] <scott97283429871> jmichaelx: ok, Ill try that.  thank you so much for your help.
[05:45] <jmichaelx> np
[05:47] <scott97283429871> jmichaelx: ok, so i have a new development
[05:47] <jmichaelx> what is that?
[05:48] <scott97283429871> jmichaelx: see if you can wrap your head around this.  i went back into my displayconfig, and changed my default screen from screen 1 to screen 2.  then i loged off and back on.
[05:48] <scott97283429871> and now one monitor is like normal.  but the other one is off
[05:48] <jmichaelx> interesting
[05:49] <scott97283429871> yeah
[05:49] <jmichaelx> did you have both going before?
[05:49] <jmichaelx> and is the one that is on using fglrx now?
[05:49] <scott97283429871> now if i go back into screen resolution, both displays are recognized and i can change the resolution on my main one
[05:50] <scott97283429871> yes, everything was working, well infact.  but i wanted to extend my desktop to the second screen and thats when things went bad
[05:50] <scott97283429871> jmichaelx: what do you think about trying to install the driver from envy again?
[05:50] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: i would REALLY recommend that you poke around through the forums on this issue, as well as google
[05:51] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: do you think you are using fglrx now?
[05:51] <scott97283429871> okay.  Ive been looking around and i wasnt really able to find anything thing that was like an answer all.  yeah, my driver is ATI Radeion (fglrx)
[05:53] <jmichaelx> ok,  we have made progress then. what you need to do is enter 'radeon 9600 dual monitors hardy' or something like that in the forums or in google and see if you can't find specific instructions for setting this up using your card
[05:53] <scott97283429871> jmichaelx: okay, i will definently try that.  thank you so much
[05:54] <jmichaelx> you're welcome, although i have not really helped you much in achieving your goal... but i am sure there is a way to do this
[05:54] <scott97283429871> jmichaelx: i still appreciate it, you were the onlyone even willing to help :D
[05:55] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871: find some documentation, and if you need help following it, come back in here, or go to #ubuntu and ask for help following the instructions you find
[05:55] <scott97283429871> jmichaelx: ok, I will.  thanks again!
[05:55] <jmichaelx> scott97283429871 very welcome
[05:56] <Derath> jmichaelx, mind if I pick your mind for a bit?
[05:56] <jmichaelx> Derath: i am going to bed soon, but i can try to help for a few more minutes yet
[05:57] <Derath> Well, I was just hoping to create two shortcuts on the desktop, one for my home dir, and the other for my doc dir.... is that possible on kde4?
[05:58] <jmichaelx> Derath: you should be able to do that in folder view in KDE4.1...
[05:58] <Derath> folder view?
[05:58] <jmichaelx> !folder view
[05:59] <jmichaelx> hmm
[05:59] <jmichaelx> Derath: the desktop in KDE4 is set up a bit differently than it was in KDE3
[05:59] <Dr_willis> thats an UNDERSTATEMENT :)
[06:00] <Derath> so I've noticed, not bad though, but lack of shortcuts on the desktop has been awkward
[06:00] <Dr_willis> 'Down with Cluttered Desktops!' :)
[06:00] <jmichaelx> when you first logged in to KDE4, you should have seen a transparent box on your desktop, which is kind of a window into your ~/Desktop directory
[06:01] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: yeah, it really was an understatement
[06:01] <Derath> lol mine's not cluttered, I just need 3-4 shortcuts/links to make life easier with commonly used apps :)
[06:01]  * Derath upgraded from 8.04 w/ kde3 to 8.10 w/ kde4
[06:01] <Derath> not really by choice either
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Put launchers on the panel :)
[06:02] <jmichaelx> Derath: you would also have an option to put launchers in your panel
[06:02] <jmichaelx> ok jinks
[06:02] <Dr_willis> You cant just drag/drop menu items from the menu to the Panel any more.. :( or at least you couldent last i tried.. it may be doable now
[06:03] <Derath> I saw the launchers, and from what I could tell, I either get the old style k menu, or the suse-like kicker menu,
[06:03] <jmichaelx> well, you could configure 2 different quick access panel icons
[06:03] <Derath> willis: did that for my app shortcuts, but hard to do with shortcuts to urls/directories
[06:04] <Derath> willis: I'd like to have a shortcut to /home and /home/documents
[06:04] <jmichaelx> Derath: you could add 2 quick access widgets to your panel, and link one to your ~/Desktop and one to your ~/Documents
[06:05] <Derath> hmm I guess I could get used to that instead
[06:06] <mds58> just out of curiosity what are the min. requirements for kubuntu8.10
[06:06] <jmichaelx> Derath: i am still in the process of getting to know kde4 myself
[06:06] <Derath> Kde4's not necessarily bad, I'm just stubborn and trying to get used to it... know how long it took me to find the "Control Panel"? lol
[06:06] <jmichaelx> mds58: what are the specs of your machine?
[06:06] <mds58> just loaded it on my desktop and was thinking of giving it a go on my old 2ghz p3 laptop
[06:07] <jmichaelx> mds58: you have a p3 that runs at 2Ghz?
[06:07] <jmichaelx> mds58: that sounds more like a P4
[06:07] <mds58> maybe its a celeron I am tired but I do know it is a single core
[06:07] <Derath> and is nepomuk worth the extra cpu time it uses? lol
[06:08] <jmichaelx> mds58: kubuntu should run just fine on that CPU... especially if you have 512MB RAM or more
[06:09] <mds58> 512 of the 266 mhz ram
[06:09] <Dr_willis> i find kde4 sluggush on my machines. :( but it is improveing...
[06:09] <jmichaelx> mds58: you may not have some of the glitter of the compositing managers if it doesn't have a decent graphics adapter
[06:09] <mds58> will it run walk or crall ?
[06:09] <macjason0607> sheesh
[06:09] <macjason0607> kubuntu crashes all the time
[06:10] <macjason0607> anyone mind looking at my logs ?
[06:10] <Derath> Thanks jmichael and willis!
[06:10] <mds58> I think the grafics are ati but not sure it is running freespire 2.0 right now
[06:10] <macjason0607> anyone ?
[06:10] <jmichaelx> mds58: it should run fine, but you may not be able to use kwin's compositing manager or compiz.... to me that would be no big deal anyways
[06:10] <mds58> I use it for wine and OOo
[06:11] <macjason0607> i have wine installed but i don't use it .. do you think that is why my kubuntu is crashing ?
[06:11] <jmichaelx> mds58: i have fedora 10 and KDE4 running on a 2Ghz P4 with 521MB of RAM (RDRAM, even)
[06:12] <jmichaelx> it runs fine
[06:12] <mds58> does the new kubuntu like cedega I havent tried it yet
[06:12] <madrush> anybody here familiar with IBM as/400 servers?
[06:13] <mds58> my desktop has the amd5000+ 3gb ddr800 and an ati 2600 pro
[06:13] <jmichaelx> i have that same GPU
[06:13] <jmichaelx> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu-dell': Linux 2.6.27-9-generic running KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3), CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 1998 MHz (4987 bogomips), HD: 76/458GB, RAM: 3050/3291MB, 167 proc's, 8.27h up
[06:14] <jmichaelx> ok, i guess that doesn't list the video adapter
[06:14] <mds58> sweet at least I know I wont be up a creek for video acceleration this go round
[06:15] <jmichaelx> mine is called a Radeon HD 2600XT, which i presume is about the same thing
[06:15] <mds58> freespire offered zip for video, printer, and dvd support
[06:16] <mds58> is it normal for kde4 to be fuzzy on boot
[06:17] <mds58> I have to use ctrl+alt+backspace to clear it up
[06:17] <jmichaelx> i am used to running old junk hardware (i actually like using older PCs), but i bought one of dell's desktops with ubuntu a few months ago... the first time i have ever had an up-to-date machine
[06:17] <jmichaelx> mds58: fuzzy?
[06:18] <mds58> like its trying to use the wrong refresh rate
[06:18] <jmichaelx> mds58: you have kubuntu installed now, or are you using the live CD?
[06:19] <mds58> just ran first installed boot
[06:19] <mds58> I have a couple of computers typing on one while working on other
[06:20] <jmichaelx> if you know the refresh rate you should be using, you could check if that matches what you see in system settings
[06:20] <mds58> oh well as stable as linux is I probably wont have to worry about rebooting for a couple of months anyway
[06:21] <jmichaelx> mds58: i am often using 2 PCs at the same time on this desk. i control 2 PCs and 2 separate displays with one keyboard using 'synergy'
[06:21] <macjason0607> kubuntu keeps crashing on me .. does anyone want to see my logs .. if so how do i get my logs ?
[06:21] <mds58> 2 pcs 1 monitor 1 keyboard 1 mouse
[06:22] <jmichaelx> KVM switch?
[06:22] <mds58> IO gear adapter
[06:22] <e-head> you could set up xdmps
[06:22] <jmichaelx> everyone in here would laugh if they ever caught a glance of this desk
[06:22] <dystopianray> does anyone know what happened to kaudiocreator in kubuntu 8.10? it was my favourite audio cd ripper
[06:23] <e-head> xdmcp rather
[06:23] <mds58> everyone here would laugh if they saw my living room
[06:23] <mds58> some days it looks like a pawn shop
[06:25] <jmichaelx> i have 5 PCs at this desk, running 5 operating systems... 4 are connected to one display using a KVM switch, and another is connected to a larger display, separate from the others
[06:26] <jmichaelx> e-head: i will have to read up on xdmcp
[06:26] <jmichaelx> that does not count a few OS's i have running as virtual machines
[06:27] <_2> !lag
[06:28] <jmichaelx> smart-alec bot
[06:28] <_2> !smart-alec bot
[06:30] <macjason0607> guys .. how do i find my crash logs ?
[06:31] <_2> macjason0607 app specific.    if xorg logs it, then look in ~/.xserver* and /var/log/Xorg*   else it's app specific
[06:31] <jmichaelx> good night, all
[06:32] <macjason0607> _2, it seems to crash when i empty trash
[06:32] <_2> it ?
[06:33] <macjason0607> _2, my panel restarts  and i get a error " Fatal error something"
[06:33] <mds58> I have a problem... one of my hard drives is missing??? :(
[06:33] <_2> mds58 cat /proc/partitions
[06:33] <mds58> and I cant gain access to the others
[06:34] <_2> !ntfs
[06:34] <mds58> I can see the ntfs drive but not the fat 32
[06:34] <_2> mds58 so mount it
[06:35] <mds58> where did they hide that on the 8.10 distro
[06:35] <_2> hide ?    i have no idea     mount has always been in /bin/    and fstab has always been in /etc/
[06:36] <_2> man mount       man fstab
[06:36] <_2> use the link that ubottu posted you   ^
[06:36] <mds58> kk
[06:38] <_2> mds58 and by the way.  the type for  "fat<all numbers>"   is  "vfat"
[06:39] <tkstka> hmm here does firefox restore temporary files
[06:39] <tkstka> I accidently made the video from rapidshare to open
[06:39] <tkstka> and now I cant find it
[06:39] <tkstka> :c
[06:39] <mds58> ty _2
[06:54] <tkstka> hmm where does firefox restore temporary files?
[06:55] <tkstka> would like to know so I can open them
[06:55] <Dr_willis>  .mozilla  - in there perhaos
[06:55] <tkstka> well do you know in where exactly firefox is installed
[06:55] <tkstka> ?
[06:55] <tkstka> I found
[06:55] <tkstka> :)
[06:56] <faunris> гм
[06:57] <Dr_willis> Why does where it installed to matter? :)
[06:57] <tkstka> well I figured that there is a one big temp folder
[06:57] <tkstka> I'm new to linux
[06:57] <faunris> о_0
[06:57] <tkstka> so everything is little odd
[06:57] <tkstka> forme
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Once you learn more.. you realize windows is odd...
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Firefox tends to do things its own way also
[06:58] <faunris> ппц, канал потерял :(
[06:58] <Dr_willis> its NOT going to use a temp directory where its 'installed' to :) either the users home dir somewhere or /tmp/ most likely places for that
[06:59] <tkstka> ya /tmp/
[06:59] <tkstka> :)
[06:59] <tkstka> guy speaks russia
[06:59] <tkstka> cant compute
[06:59] <tkstka> :)
[07:15] <ubuntu__> hey all.... am trying to install kubuntu (obviously!) and am at step 4 of 6, it says prepare partitions... should this screen be blank?
[07:23] <Andrew``> anyone?
[07:24] <kasdaye> Hey folks, having a bit of trouble and I don't seem to know enough of the proper terms to google a solution up. How can I have task-bar items only show up when the virtual desktop they are on is selecteD?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> hmm
[07:25] <Dr_willis> kasdaye,  that may or may not be a feature of kde 4 yet.  i recall in kde3 and gnome they had a 'show only  current desktop' type options in the panel/task list.. but not sure bout kde4
[07:25] <Dr_willis> 'show windows from all workspaces'   vs '  show windows from current workspace'  - in gnome terms. :)  Im in gnome right now
[07:26] <kasdaye> Yeah, I can't seem to find it in KDE4. Dang.
[07:26] <Dr_willis> very likely - its not a feature yet
[07:26] <kasdaye> Alrighty, thank you
[07:28] <Andrew``> guys... am trying to install kubuntyu, but am stopped at the partition page
[07:28] <Andrew``> anyone help me pls?
[07:28] <Andrew``> its blank
[07:29] <Dr_willis> I dont have the isntaller memorized..  I also tend to partition my drives befor i install with a gparted-live cd
[07:29] <Dr_willis> Its possible its having some issues and not seeing your hard drive. You have more then 1 ?
[07:29] <Andrew``> no
[07:29] <Andrew``> 1X sata 250G
[07:30] <Dr_willis> Yu are using the Live cd ?
[07:30] <Andrew``> yes
[07:30] <Dr_willis> open a terminal and see what 'sudo fdisk -l' shows perhaps
[07:31] <Andrew``> where can I paste the output?
[07:32] <Andrew``>  oh yeah .. am getting rid of Suse thats currently on teh drive?
[07:34] <Andrew``> http://www.pastebin.ca/1278578
[07:39] <Andrew``> Dr_willis: ?
[07:39] <Dr_willis> i would repartition the drive and delete the other installs. leaveing part unallocated.. and restart the installer
[07:40] <Andrew``> ok how do I do that?
[07:42] <Dr_willis> use the gparted tool, or qtparted tool is one way...
[07:42] <Dr_willis> fdisk from the command line is another way
[07:43] <tbr281> i have closed my task manager by accident
[07:44] <tbr281> how do i open it again?
[07:44] <Dr_willis> add the plasmoid back to the panel  -
[07:44] <Dr_willis> plasmid? plasmatic :) whatever they call the widgets
[07:45] <zeltak> hi guys
[07:45] <zeltak> does anyone know a good gui fronend for rsync for kubuntu?
[07:48] <tbr281> ok so i managed to do that
[07:48] <tbr281> but its small and can be dragged across the desktop
[07:49] <Dr_willis> You shoudl of drag/dropped it onto the panel not the desktop
[07:52] <tbr281> ok i got it
[07:52] <tbr281> thnx
[07:53] <Dr_willis> play witth the little 'cashew' buttonon the far right side also.. to tweak things :)
[07:53] <l3d> ok I am running gnome as default and have a couple of kde apps installed and installed kcontrol to change the theme/color of these apps to match my current one in gnome and have since removed  kcontrol. which is fine themes i set using it still are set but I was wondering what file would I have to copy to back up these settings. I mean is there a way to back up the color settings for kde so I dont have to install kcontrol every time to set them?
[07:54] <Andrew``> fdisk /dev/sda
[07:54] <Andrew``> Unable to open /dev/sda
[07:54] <Dr_willis> most all kde settings are in the .kde/ directory and sub directories
[07:54] <Dr_willis> Andrew``,  you format /dev/sda1 most likely.. not sda
[07:54] <Dr_willis> and  if you leave the drive Unallocatged.. the installer 'should' partition and format  it as needed..
[07:55] <Andrew``> fdisk /dev/sda1
[07:55] <Andrew``> Unable to open /dev/sda1
[07:55] <Dr_willis> You format sda1, you fdisk /dev/sda and  since its a ROOT TYPE TASK..  :P
[08:01] <Andrew``> http://www.pastebin.ca/1278583  <--- is that correct and if so what do I type?
[08:05] <Dr_willis> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[08:05] <Dr_willis> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[08:05] <Dr_willis> Will only affect OLD machines...
[08:07] <Andrew``> ok...  I get: Getting KPart for the mime type: Failed. Can't find kfmclient.
[08:36] <rockprincess> hello, i need help please! when i start my computer, i get a "file examing progress" dialog message, saying in it: "source: trash/" or something like that. there are no icons on my desktop that are usually shown, so my desktop is empty except for the wallpaper image. there is no kmenu either, the ktaskbar is empty as well, and the light in my computer is constantly red (usually just blinking) indicating that it's always writin
[08:37] <rockprincess> i booted with a live-cd, to make sure my files in my desktop and home folder are all still there....which they are thankfully...
[08:38] <Dr_willis> Try making a new user.. see if they can login  as a test.
[08:39] <bodobacs> Hi! I am tired of typing my password all day to sudo. Every day I start with login, wvdial, kopete, synaptic ... so many times. I am about to hate it! What should i do?
[08:39] <tbr281> damn Nazi's!
[08:40] <rockprincess> Dr_willis: that's my problem, because i cant even open a konsole session, because the kmenu is gone, when i wait for a while, it appears but still i can't click the kmenu, because my computer is constantly "writing"
[08:42] <Dr_willis> use the console,  alt-ctrl-f1   check top/htop output see if anything is running rampant, try making a new user,
[08:42] <Dr_willis> sudo for kopete? Hmmm....
[08:42] <rockprincess> ok, thanks i will try that....
[08:43] <bodobacs> KWallet
[08:43] <Dr_willis> bodobacs,  you can set up specifi users to run specific apps without them needing to use sudo. Check the sudo manpages/docs/guides/tutorials
[08:43] <Dr_willis> theres more to 'sudo' then 'the command you type to doo root things' :)
[08:44] <Dr_willis> well they do use sudo.. :) they just can be set up where they dont need to enter the password. or other tweaks
[08:45] <bodobacs> But canceling the password won't be too safe, will itt?
[08:46] <rockprincess> Dr_willis: ok tried that, pressed alz+ctrl
[08:46] <rockprincess> alt+ctrl+f1
[08:46] <rockprincess> ooops typo
[08:46] <rockprincess> but all i get is a black screen with loads of messages
[08:47] <Dr_willis> bodobacs,  its all about tradeoffs...  You can disallow the password for specidfic commands
[08:47] <bodobacs> My password already in the history tho :D
[08:47] <bodobacs> ok, i see
[08:47] <bodobacs> thanx
[08:48] <rockprincess> status: { DRDY ERR } and error: { ABRT }
[08:49] <rockprincess> the thing is these messages go on and on forever.....
[08:49] <rockprincess> they won't stop....hence the writing progress i think.....it's crazy.....
[08:49] <bodobacs> ctrl-c
[08:49] <rockprincess> i'll just try and google that....
[08:52] <Dr_willis> sounds like some nasty hardware conflict/issue/falusre
[08:53] <Dr_willis> like a HD is goingout..
[08:54] <rockprincess> shit....
[08:54] <rockprincess> are there diagnostic tools, that i could check with?
[08:55] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[08:55] <Dr_willis> !smart
[08:55] <Dr_willis> thats not it...
[08:55] <Dr_willis> Theres the smartmon tools...
[08:56] <Dr_willis> check the errors more.. it may not be the hd.. but it sure shounds like the hd
[08:56] <rockprincess> hmm, the thing is i cannot install anything, since kubuntu won't let me even open a konsole
[08:56] <rockprincess> i just try to backup my stuff from the hd with knoppix
[08:57] <Dr_willis> Yep. YOumay want to se eif knoppix reports similer messages also
[08:57] <rockprincess> hmm, how can i  do this??
[08:58] <rockprincess> shall i just going into my hd's directory /var/log ?
[08:58] <Dr_willis> boot knoppis.. mount drive.. look for errors in dmesg
[08:58] <rockprincess> ahh ok
[08:59] <rockprincess> i dont fancy a fresh kubuntu install, but if thats what it takes to get it running smoothly again, I'm happily gonna do that
[09:01] <Tupac_Shakur> sal 2 all
[09:21] <DawnLight> hey
[09:23] <DawnLight> there's a bug in kde which really affects my intrepid experience in that kmail crashes pressing the send button. i'd like some help with this please. this is reported in kde as 169986. i'd like to find a workaround so that i could send mail using kmail
[09:27] <Andrew``> hey all
[09:27] <Andrew``> just installed kubuntu
[09:27] <DawnLight> hey Andrew``
[09:27] <Andrew``> have a  problem tho... its not seeeing my external HDD
[09:28] <DawnLight> Andrew``: do you see it when you type in 'lsusb' in a terminal?
[09:28] <DawnLight> assuming it is usb
[09:29] <Tupac_Shakur> helloo
[09:30] <bittin^> hi
[09:32] <VistaUser> hey
[09:32] <Tupac_Shakur> hi
[09:38] <Andrew``> http://paste.ubuntu.com/81833/ this is the result of lsusb
[09:38] <Andrew``> if anyone else can help me
[09:38] <Andrew``> sory but i had a phone call
[09:40] <Andrew``> ok its found it
[09:40] <Andrew``> !!
[09:44] <Andrew``> ok.. now that its done that... can anyone tell me how to download programs?
[09:45] <Andrew``> I used to use suse
[09:45] <Andrew``> so Iused Yast
[09:45] <Andrew``> whats teh same thing in kubuntu?
[09:45] <bazhang> nothing quite the same as yast
[09:46] <bazhang> adept/synaptic/apt-get/aptitude for kubuntu/ubuntu
[09:46] <bazhang> gui/cli
[09:46] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install programname
[09:57] <Andrew``> umm sorry to bother you guys
[09:58] <Andrew``> but I have installed the mp3 support through amarok.. but I get no sound
[09:59] <Andrew``> ok gonna try to ask in #amarok
[10:04] <Neremor> hello!
[10:04] <Neremor> I've a question about the upgrade to kde 4.2
[10:05] <Neremor> if i type "apt-get upgrade" in a konsole, i am asked to upgrade all the programs. Thats what i want, but there are also over 30 packages that are hold back for some reasons, for example "gwenview" or "akregator"...
[10:06] <Neremor> why?
[10:06] <smitt> because is it common upgrade command
[10:06] <Neremor> ??
[10:06] <smitt> take help about it in console
[10:07] <smitt> some stuffs like parameters
[10:07] <smitt> options of apt-get ugrade
[10:07] <glade88> I see that opera is included in the 3rd party "partner" repos? was it excluded in hardy?
[10:08] <Neremor> i now what it means that they are hold back but i would like to know why they are hold back. Isn't it recommended to upgrade those packages? are the recent releases of that software not compatible with kde 4.2 anymore
[10:08] <Neremor> ?
[10:09] <Neremor> i don't think they are hold back because the programers wanted to make a joke ;)
[10:09] <smitt> )
[10:09] <smitt> and i think
[10:09] <smitt> they are hold back because i am on dialup for now)
[10:12] <smitt> i have a problem
[10:12] <smitt> who knows kdevelop?
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[10:31] <vistakiller> plasmoid crash when i login in beta 1 kde 4.2
[10:35] <smitt> nigbot
[10:35] <smitt> what is the//
[10:37] <DOT_DASH> Hi, just moved from Ubuntu to Kubuntu & was trying to speed up my video. I tried the Nvidia driver, but it was slow.  I took the driver out, and now my monitor is stuck at 640x480.  There's no other settings in "System Settings / Monitor & Display". How do I get back the other settings, specifically 1600x1200?
[10:41] <Neremor> hello!
[10:41] <Neremor> i've a very, very big problem!
[10:42] <Neremor> i tried to upgrade my system to kde 4.2 right now
[10:42] <Neremor> but i can't install the new kde-window manager
[10:42] <Neremor> i get an error like "dpkg returned error code (1)" and that it was terminated because of a broken pipe
[10:42] <Neremor> now i can't use kwin anymore
[10:42] <Neremor> !
[10:42] <lumm> kde 4.2 is beta
[10:42] <Neremor> yes
[10:43] <lumm> if u dont know waht todo on errors i should not use it
[10:43] <lumm> *u should
[10:43] <Neremor> it's not an error about kde 4.2
[10:43] <Neremor> it's an error about the update prozess
[10:43] <Neremor> and to tell my that i should not use kde 4.2 isn't very helpful right now ;)
[10:44] <lumm> this might happen cuz of broken packages ?;)
[10:45] <Neremor> Entpacke kde-window-manager (aus .../kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_i386.deb) ...
[10:45] <Neremor> dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[10:45] <Neremor>  Versuche, »/usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/plasma-add-shortcut-to-menu« zu überschreiben, welches auch in Paket kdebase-workspace-bin ist
[10:45] <Neremor> dpkg-deb: Unterprozess paste mit Signal (Broken pipe) getötet
[10:45] <Neremor> that's the error
[10:45] <Neremor> i would have used a paste service but i can
[10:45] <Neremor> can't open firefox
[10:45] <DOT_DASH> Hi, I tried the Nvidia driver, but took it out. Now my monitor is stuck at 640x480.  There's no other settings in "System Settings / Monitor & Display". How do I get back the other settings, specifically 1600x1200?
[10:46] <Neremor> ups
[10:46] <Neremor> sorry
[10:46] <Neremor> forgot that the output is german
[10:47] <chakie> Neremor: seems like some file is in two different packages, ie a packaging error
[10:49] <Neremor> ok, and how can i fix that?
[10:49] <Neremor> it would be enough to revert the changes so that i get kde 4.1 back
[10:49] <vistakiller> Neremor there is some package that you must remove
[10:49] <Neremor> which?
[10:49] <vistakiller> i remember that was with plasmoid
[10:50] <Neremor> hm
[10:50] <Neremor> that means i have to remove plasmoids?
[10:50] <vistakiller> do you have install extra plasmoid?
[10:50] <Neremor> yes
[10:50] <vistakiller> ok remove the extra plasmoid
[10:50] <vistakiller> only them
[10:50] <DOT_DASH> Hi, can anyone help, please? I tried the Nvidia driver, but took it out. The desktop is stuck on 640x480. There's no other choices. How do I get back especially 1600x1200?
[10:50] <vistakiller> and after do again upgrade from terminal now
[10:51] <Neremor> ok
[10:52] <Neremor> hm it uninstalled kubuntu-desktop too because "it was broken"
[10:54] <Neremor> that doesn't work
[10:54] <Neremor> i get this error
[10:54] <Neremor> Try to overwrite, »/usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/plasma-add-shortcut-to-menu« , that is also in the package kdebase-workspace
[10:55] <vistakiller> try to do upgrade from terminal
[10:57] <Neremor> i do upgrade from terminal all the time
[10:57] <Neremor> hm
[10:57] <Neremor> i can't do a lot because i get errors because of wrong dependencies
[10:57] <Neremor> that's because the new kde 4.2 packages need the kde-window-manager
[10:58] <vistakiller> no
[10:59] <vistakiller> i have the same problem
[10:59] <vistakiller> i can upgrade when i remove some package
[10:59] <vistakiller> i dont remeber what package was
[10:59] <Neremor> hm
[10:59] <vistakiller> try to remove and kdeplasma-addons
[11:00] <vistakiller> when you give sudo apt-get upgrade what happen?
[11:01] <Neremor> hm
[11:02] <Neremor> i get a lot of errors about wrong dependencies
[11:02] <vistakiller> give one
[11:02] <vistakiller> or pastebin
[11:02] <Neremor> i cant pastebin
[11:02] <vistakiller> why?
[11:02] <vistakiller> http://pastebin.com/
[11:03] <Neremor> It's a wonder i got konversation running without kwin
[11:03] <Cannon> hey guys, could somebody suggest a good ftp client please ... preferably one that supports multiple transfers at once?
[11:03] <Cannon> nice name vistakiller :P
[11:03] <Neremor> firefox is only a 10x10px window
[11:03] <vistakiller> thank you :D
[11:03] <Neremor> and i can't resize it
[11:03] <Cannon> tell me of an ftp client :P
[11:03] <vistakiller> but now release Seven
[11:04] <Neremor> kubuntu-desktop: Depends of: kde-window-manager but isn't installable
[11:04] <vistakiller> try to remove kubuntu-desktop
[11:04] <vistakiller> is metapackage
[11:04] <Neremor> i cant
[11:04] <smitt> guys
[11:04] <smitt> reinstall OS
[11:04] <Neremor> it says i should use apt-get -f install before i'm doing anything else
[11:05] <vistakiller> you give this?
[11:05] <Neremor> yes i did this
[11:05] <vistakiller> and?
[11:05] <Neremor> but then i get the errors about
[11:05] <smitt> backup data and reinstall
[11:05] <vistakiller> wait
[11:05] <Neremor> dpkg error code 1
[11:05] <Neremor> i don't want to reinstall
[11:05] <vistakiller> try to remove kubuntu-desktop
[11:05] <Neremor> i don't have the time to reinstall
[11:05] <vistakiller> only this
[11:05] <vistakiller> hold back the other package
[11:06] <vistakiller> and try to remove this
[11:06] <vistakiller> you can do this through synaptic
[11:06] <vistakiller> or adept
[11:06] <Neremor> it worked now
[11:06] <Neremor> and now?
[11:06] <vistakiller> try to upgrade now again
[11:08] <Neremor> hm i get the dpkg error again
[11:08] <Neremor> it shows only one package to upgrade then; the systemsettings
[11:08] <vistakiller> what depencies now?
[11:09] <Neremor> and the dpkg error is about a conflict with kde-workbase-bin
[11:09] <vistakiller> wait a min
[11:10] <vistakiller> this is the exactly name of the package?
[11:10] <chris062689> Whenever I try to install Firefox in KDE 4, it wants to include half of the gnome-suite, is there anyway I can JUST install Firefox?
[11:10] <Neremor> yes
[11:10] <vistakiller> hm i dont have this package...
[11:10] <Neremor> wait
[11:11] <Neremor> no
[11:11] <Neremor> kdebase-workspace-bin
[11:11] <Neremor> that's the package
[11:12] <vistakiller> try to unistall this
[11:12] <vistakiller> is low depencies
[11:13] <yaoyong> hello everyone
[11:14] <eagles0513875> !info ncurses
[11:14] <eagles0513875> !ncurses
[11:14] <eagles0513875> O_o
[11:17] <Neremor> ok
[11:17] <Neremor> everything worked now
[11:17] <Neremor> i had to remove the kscreensaver package to be able to remove the kdebase-workspace-bin. after i removed both packages i was able to do a clean upgrade and to reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[11:17] <Neremor> i will try to restart now ;)
[11:18] <smitt> configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[11:18] <smitt> See `config.log' for more details.
[11:18] <smitt> *** Exited with status: 77 ***
[11:18] <Neremor> and thank you for your help :)
[11:18] <smitt> what can i do?
[11:19] <vistakiller> nice :D
[11:19] <Cannon> how can I perminently mount an ntfs drive in kubuntu?
[11:20] <smitt> -0 force
[11:20] <smitt> -o force
[11:20] <Cannon> what syntax?
[11:21] <Cannon> sudo mount -t ntfs /sec/sdb1 /mnt/Downloads -o ro <<< that is what I used yesterday
[11:21] <Cannon> but when I rebooted it was no longer there
[11:21] <smitt> udo mount -t ntfs /sec/sdb1 /mnt/Downloads -o force
[11:21] <smitt> try it
[11:21] <Cannon> k
[11:24] <Cannon> what do I type to get the list of drives?
[11:24] <wesley> In Ktorrent all torrent stopped, but i have internet conection
[11:24] <smitt> mount only
[11:25] <smitt> without params
[11:25] <Cannon> thats not showing them all
[11:25] <smitt> )) just type "mount"
[11:25] <smitt> oh
[11:26] <smitt> do u use fstab or mtab files?
[11:26] <Cannon> it's ok, I got it
[11:26] <smitt> just mount)
[11:26] <Cannon> << linux noob ... I don't know anything about fstab yet, lol
[11:26] <smitt> me too
[11:26] <Cannon> i only installed a few days ago :P
[11:26] <smitt> i just go here
[11:26] <smitt> listen
[11:27] <smitt> and liarn
[11:27] <smitt> learn*
[11:27] <smitt> take a notes
[11:27] <smitt> u can do it too
[11:27] <Cannon> lol
[11:27] <Cannon> ofcourse
[11:27] <Cannon> though last time I tried it was too much for me ... I was on heavy meds at the time! :P
[11:27] <smitt> and english practical lessons avaible to u here
[11:28] <Cannon> i've tried to pull away from Windows for a while
[11:28] <smitt> no no
[11:29] <smitt> forever
[11:29] <j3frea> sup all, I'm hoping to get some help regarding hotkeys on my dell inspiron 1525 (kubuntu intrepid)
[11:30] <j3frea> the stop key is lowering volume, the rest seem to be working fine
[11:30] <j3frea> when the stop key reduces the volume the little tooltip thing pops up but it's different from the kmix one that pops up when I use the volume altering keys
[11:30] <j3frea> any ideas?
[11:33] <asus> ni...dk
[11:42] <Dragonath> how do I force all my apps to use kde3?
[11:42] <Dragonath> I temporarily had kde4 and some apps stuck with it
[11:43] <salvo_1> ciao
[11:44] <Cannon> i suggest asking in the #KDE channel Dragonath
[11:47] <Dragonath> Cannon: ok thanks
[11:48] <Bauldrick> hello together. very often if I unmount (eject) my cd-rom (or any other device via toolbar icon, all plugged in devices disappear and I can't get them back
[11:49] <Bauldrick> how can i fix that without logging back out/in
[11:50] <Bauldrick> that is to say the devices names disappear, there is a blank box which i cannot mount
[11:53] <Cannon> hey guys, how do I ssh into a linux server ... I am only familiar with putty in windows
[11:55] <Bauldrick> Cannon: you can get putty for linux i believe or in terminal ssh <name>@<ipaddress>
[11:56] <Cannon> thanks Bauldrick
[11:56] <Cannon> hmmm
[11:57] <Cannon> Bauldrick: it's just asking me for a password but not user name?
[11:58] <Bauldrick> Cannon: you've already told it's name ? <name>@<ipaddress>   ?
[11:59] <Bauldrick> i.e<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:59] <Cannon> ah
[11:59] <Cannon> i did "ssh IP"
[11:59] <Cannon> then it asked me for a password
[11:59] <Cannon> without user name first
[11:59] <Cannon> and my user name on my linux home system is different to the one on the server
[12:02] <Cannon> am in! :D
[12:02] <Cannon> thanks for your help Bauldrick m8y
[12:03] <Bauldrick> Cannon: no prob
[12:05] <Farmer> How is monitor standby handled on desktop computers in kde4.2 beta? I cant seem to figure out if its performance, power save or what mode desktop computers are in...
[12:07] <Farmer> meh, nevermind, found it
[12:15] <Andrew``> can anyone tell me how to open konqueror as root?
[12:16] <HavocXphere> Andrew``: I don't know the "correct" way, but you can press alt-f2, type in konsole and then type sudo konquerer
[12:18] <HavocXphere> konqueror *
[12:19] <mrksbrd> Andrew what are u trying to do?
[12:20] <Andrew``> had to move a file for flash for 64 bit kubuntu
[12:21] <mrksbrd> install it in local folder, that will make it system wide
[12:22] <wachani> hi
[12:22] <wachani> I have a problem with my wifi
[12:23] <Farmer> you're not the first :P
[12:23] <wachani> it make me crasy
[12:23] <Farmer> wont connect?
[12:23] <mrksbrd> what WiFi card
[12:23] <wachani> no it dont detect the wifi
[12:24] <wesley> Andrew go to /usr/share/appliations
[12:24] <wesley> there a root browser from konqueror in the kde4 map
[12:24] <wachani> also with wifi radio it doesn't work
[12:24] <Farmer> lshw -c network
[12:24] <mrksbrd> wachani: what wifi card?
[12:24] <wachani> just a minut
[12:26] <wachani> it 's Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[12:27] <mrksbrd> ok install ndiswrapper
[12:27] <wachani> I can connect with cable
[12:27] <mrksbrd> run it thru ethernet right now
[12:28] <wachani> ok
[12:29] <mrksbrd> install ndiswrapper then let me know when your done....i'll try to send u the driver file
[12:29] <wachani> I install it
[12:29] <mrksbrd> k
[12:31] <wachani> how i can receve you doc
[12:31] <wachani> ?
[12:31] <wachani> il ok
[12:31] <mrksbrd> should have accept box pop up
[12:31] <wachani> it ok I receve now
[12:35] <wachani> ok I receve it
[12:35] <wachani> now I open it?
[12:36] <mrksbrd> ok untar it.....put it in your home folder
[12:36] <mrksbrd> open ndiswrapper
[12:36] <mrksbrd> and install driver thru there
[12:36] <mrksbrd> that should be all u need to do....gaurd that file with your life
[12:37] <mrksbrd> you will need it again...lol
[12:37] <sitex> hi all
[12:37] <wachani> ok
[12:38] <wachani> but in Synaptic i find ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils1.9
[12:39] <wachani> I install them
[12:39] <wachani> but there not application named ndiswrapper
[12:40] <mrksbrd> use add remove
[12:40] <wachani> ok
[12:40] <mrksbrd> to d/l it
[12:45] <wachani> I install it now
[13:08] <danyyy> hi
[13:14] <danyyy> hello
[13:14] <nata> Hi, I have a big Problem with my Intel 82801 SATA RAID Controller
[13:14] <danyyy> what problem?
[13:14] <nata> Kubuntu 8.10 is installed on a 2x500GB Raid0 array
[13:15] <danyyy> so, what is the problem?
[13:15] <nata> And since kernel x.8 the kernel can't find the raid array
[13:16] <nata> the problem is: since I installed the fglrx driver the old x.4 kernel also can't find the array
[13:16] <danyyy> mmmmmmmmm dificult!
[13:16] <nata> Very difficult
[13:16] <nata> I spend the whole last day trying to fix it
[13:17] <nata> maybe it is because the initrd got rebuild (I guess)?
[13:17] <danyyy> i don't know, sorry
[13:18] <nata> I tried to re-download the 8.10 live cd, but it's kernel is x.7 (I installed from a 8.10 RC, I no longer have)
[13:19] <nata> I'm now on 8.04 but their most recend kernel also can't recognise this damn fakeraid
[13:21] <nata> Does anybody know about a more kernel specific support channel?
[13:25] <Cannon> hey guys, i've just moved from windows and was using imgburn to burn dual layer disks that required the layer break to be set ... is there an ubuntu or kubuntu app that can do the same?
[13:28] <smitt> i have a problem with c++ compilers
[13:28] <smitt> cant install on kebentu
[13:28] <smitt> kubuntu*
[13:30] <smitt> i have broken packs how can i fix it?
[13:31] <nata> smitt: try "apt-get remove --purge PaketNameHere", but be warned, all your custom config for this paket will be deleted
[13:32] <nata> the reinstall the paket
[13:33] <smitt> nata
[13:33] <smitt> keyjnote libapr1 libaprutil1 libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-mixer1.2
[13:33] <smitt>   libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsmpeg0 libsvn1 libxnconfig7 python-numeric
[13:33] <smitt>   python-opengl python-pkg-resources python-pygame xneur
[13:33] <smitt> this pack will be removed
[13:34] <smitt> any compiler pack here?
[13:34] <nata> don't think so
[13:34] <nata> what are you trying to do?
[13:34] <smitt> install g++ compiler and others
[13:35] <nata> tried installing build-essentials?
[13:36] <smitt> ok
[13:36] <nata> if you have to compile a program from source that sould be about enough
[13:37] <smitt> that pack is not found)
[13:37] <smitt> after apt-get update
[13:37] <smitt> the same - not found
[13:38] <nata> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[13:38] <smitt> i tried
[13:38] <smitt> falls
[13:39] <smitt> links to g++ and it is broken
[13:39] <james_> alguem o basil????
[13:39] <nata> can you c&p the output?
[13:39] <smitt> no)
[13:40] <smitt> oh i can nata
[13:40] <smitt> but i am russian)
[13:40] <nata> thx
[13:40] <nata> hmm :/
[13:40] <smitt>  build-essential: Çàâèñèò: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) íî îí íå áóäåò óñòàíîâëåí
[13:40] <smitt> E: Ñëîìàííûå ïàêåòû
[13:40] <smitt> ta ta ta but it is impossible to install because E: broken packs
[13:41] <nata> I'm german and don't speak russian. Would be useful though. There are a few quite good russian games with no good translated versions :)
[13:41] <chris062689> How can I install Firefox in KDE without installing all of the GNOME-related things?
[13:42] <nata> smitt: I't no 404 problem though?
[13:42] <james_> estou usando o ubuntu server 8.10
[13:42] <james_> com o modo gráfico xfce
[13:42] <james_> está perfeito
[13:42] <smitt> nata no.. thank you but i dont have much time) i am going ro install ASP
[13:42] <james_> sem nenhum problema
[13:42] <nata> ok
[13:43] <nata> No one around with kernel and/or raid controller experience?
[13:44] <blip-> hi,  pressing ctrl-alt-h brings up a weird circular menu ?  where is this coming from ?  The KDE people haven't heard of it before...
[13:44] <Dekans> do you manage to have a nice oxygen theme on gtk apps ?
[13:44] <blip-> kubuntu hardeez
[13:46] <val_> hi all how can i open the other partitions i have?
[13:47] <nata> val_: 8.10 kde4?
[13:47] <nata> in that case dolphin should do
[13:48] <nata> under "places" on the left should be all your partitions
[13:48] <j3frea> sup all, is anyone active?
[13:48] <sevenseeker> konsole question - how do I set the title to be the latest tar package used? e.g. when building lots of stuff and I need to find what package an error was on
[13:49] <sevenseeker> j3frea: active... that is relative since I am still drinking coffee :)
[13:49] <j3frea> I've got a problem with media keys on my dell inspiron 1525
[13:49] <j3frea> I've got 8.10 right now
[13:49] <j3frea> most of the keys work, the one problem is the stop button
[13:49] <j3frea> it lowers the volume
[13:50] <j3frea> the volume keys also work but they seem to link to the kmix thing, the stop button gets hijacked somewhere else
[13:50] <xjarrett> Cannon: :D
[13:50] <j3frea> I'm not sure how to fix it
[13:51] <j3frea> any ideas?
[13:51] <sevenseeker> you could try going to "system settings>keyboard & mouse> global keyboard settings'
[13:51] <sevenseeker> I did that and it worked for a while, then suddenly stopped so YMMV
[13:52] <j3frea> system settings>keyboard & mouse... there is no global keyboard settings
[13:52] <j3frea> there's keyboard shortcuts
[13:52] <j3frea> apparently khotkeys is broken on kde4
[13:53] <j3frea> I'd like to figure out what application is being called when I hit the stop key
[13:53] <j3frea> is it possible to do that?
[13:53] <j3frea> and how
[13:53] <DaSkreech> The stop key?
[13:53] <j3frea> ye, my media keys...
[13:53] <j3frea> the stop key is lowering the volume
[13:54] <DaSkreech> oh
[13:54] <j3frea> but not in the same way as the volume keys do
[13:54] <DaSkreech> KDe3?
[13:54] <j3frea> nope kde4
[13:54] <j3frea> ironically kde3 worked perfectly with all the media keys on my 1525
[13:54] <j3frea> (dell inspiron)
[13:54] <DaSkreech> Right
[13:54] <chris_> KDE 4 is actually quite better, behind the scenes.
[13:54] <chris_> They couldn't do any more to the KDE 3.x base, so they rewrote it for KDE 4
[13:54] <j3frea> ja, if only that were true of the front...
[13:54] <j3frea> lol
[13:54] <sevenseeker> ah yes, shortcuts
[13:55] <sevenseeker> going by memory :_)
[13:55] <chris_> KDE 4 is much more powerfui, internally, but it'll just take time for it to show.
[13:55] <_gunni_> j3frea: You can first check if the key gives the right keycode with the program xev
[13:55] <j3frea> ja, it gives 174
[13:55] <chris062689> I believe the base KDE 3 used was from way back in KDE 1
[13:55] <sevenseeker> j3frea: my multimedia keys 'just worked' also with kde3
[13:55] <j3frea> sevenseeker: mine too - but I made the mistake of upgrading :D
[13:55] <sevenseeker> actually almost everything 'just worked'
[13:56] <j3frea> ye
[13:56] <sevenseeker> j3frea: indeed, I am kicking myself... I just couldn't resist :)
[13:56] <j3frea> but I must say, I like plasmoids
[13:56] <j3frea> sevenseeker: are you also on kde4 then?
[13:56] <DaSkreech> chris062689: KDE2
[13:56] <sevenseeker> j3frea: yes
[13:56] <chris062689> Ah. sorry, had my KDE's mixed up :P
[13:57] <chris062689> Does anyone know how to install Firefox in KDE 4, without installing all of the GNOME-crap?
[13:57] <j3frea> sevenseeker: lol, ja - I'm kind of annoyed that things are not "just working"
[13:57] <sevenseeker> j3frea: I will be rebuilding my system to 8.04 in a month after my box is fixed and I have a new drive :(
[13:57] <DaSkreech> j3frea: Can you submit a bug with your KDE version and laptop model?
[13:57] <DaSkreech> !bugs
[13:57] <chris062689> Thanks ubottu, your automated assistance is appreshated.
[13:57] <chris062689> (I wish Konversation had spellcheck lol)
[13:57] <DaSkreech> sevenseeker: Have you tried the 4.2 beta ?
[13:57] <DaSkreech> chris062689: It does
[13:57] <j3frea> DaSkreech: I'm sure someone would have submitted a bug if it was a real problem
[13:58] <chris062689> It.. does?
[13:58] <j3frea> DaSkreech: I figure I'm doing something dumb
[13:58] <chris062689> You should probably submit a bug anyway.
[13:58] <j3frea> DaSkreech: I was hoping there was some sort of program (like keytouch) that would help
[13:58] <chris062689> Just incase.
[13:58] <DaSkreech> j3frea: Well if your probing shows that it is submitting the right keycode then some detection may be wrong
[13:58] <sevenseeker> DaSkreech: yes, partial upgrade last night... little improvments here and there but my multimedia keys still do not work and my touchpad doesn't have scroll :( (inspiron 9300)
[13:58] <j3frea> how do I link the keycode with an action, or change the keycode...
[13:59] <DaSkreech> chris062689: Right click the entry bar and you should have check spelling
[13:59] <sevenseeker> 4.2 is however not mucking up icons like 4.1 was and when I open up new windows it doesn't look like electronic vomit :)
[13:59] <chris062689> oh
[13:59] <chris062689> I see, it's just not as... automated :D
[14:00] <ntadmin_> hell;\\o
[14:00] <marcin> hello ;]
[14:00] <j3frea> salvete
[14:00] <sevenseeker> howdy
[14:01]  * sevenseeker would like to see touchpad config in System Settings
[14:01] <j3frea> So, does the keycode define behaviour or does some other program read link the codes with the desired behaviour
[14:02] <marcin> yeach ;] 5 years of ubuntu on my computer ;p
[14:02] <sevenseeker> marcin: yay, congrats
[14:02] <marcin> ty ;]
[14:02] <marcin> 2x500gb discs ;p
[14:02] <DaSkreech> j3frea: latter
[14:03] <j3frea> DaSkreech: so what program would I use to edit that link
[14:03] <j3frea> (those links)
[14:03] <DaSkreech> Normally it would be kmilo but I'm not sure in KDE4
[14:03] <j3frea> no luck
[14:03] <j3frea> tried it but didn't seem to be too pro about being installed
[14:03] <j3frea> said it was referred to but not available
[14:03] <chris062689> How can I install Opera in a 64bit environment?
[14:03] <j3frea> so might be obsolete
[14:04] <ephoenix> hey all
[14:04] <j3frea> DaSkreech: also, in regional and language settings under keyboard layout it doesn't have a dell 1525 option for keyboard model
[14:05] <j3frea> sup ephoenix
[14:05] <j3frea> could someone tell me what the evdev-managed keyboard is...
[14:05] <ephoenix> I have installed kde 4.2 and have broken dependencies with kdebase-runtime. How do I correct this problem?
[14:05] <DaSkreech> ephoenix: did you try apt-get -f install ?
[14:06] <ephoenix> I think I did and I come back to the same problem
[14:06] <erkki> Hi
[14:08] <j3frea> DaSkreech: do you know what program would be grabbing my stop key input?
[14:08] <j3frea> it doesn't seem like it's kmix
[14:09] <james_> #kde-brasil
[14:11] <ephoenix> DaSkreech: This is what end up with when I try apt-get -f install - Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:11] <ephoenix>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:11] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:11] <DaSkreech> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb
[14:11] <DaSkreech> ephoenix: ^^^
[14:15] <ephoenix> DaSkreech: I get a number of dpkg - warning regarding package koffice-data-kde4
[14:17] <squid0> hi there. if I want to do a full backup of my system, which directories should I back up? from / and recurse to all children, or only specific children of / ?
[14:36] <nikola> Hey people!
[14:37] <nikola> When can we expect the next alpha release of Kubuntu? Since Ubuntu allready has one...
[14:41] <mbday> hola
[14:48] <nikola> Anyone?
[14:49] <nikola> I mean, if Ubuntu allready has got an Alpha version of the next release, why doesn't Kubuntu have one?
[14:55] <Fieldy> !virtualbox
[14:56] <mds58> has anyone here had a problem with dofin denying access to there hard drives?
[15:02] <nikola> no.
[15:13] <fred__> salut!
[15:14] <BluesKaj> hi fred__
[15:14] <fred__> je recherche de l'aide sur Kmymoney sous Intrepid
[15:14] <fred__> j'ai le message comme quoi il ne trouve pas khelpcenter, pb entre kde3 et kde4...
[15:15] <BluesKaj> fred__, vous trouvez de l'aides a #kubuntu-fr
[15:15] <fred__> merci 1000 fois
[15:27] <marcin> ehh
[15:35] <eagles0513875> !version
[15:36] <eagles0513875> !kernel
[15:36] <eagles0513875> how do i check what kernel version im running
[15:38] <eagles0513875> !kernel version
[15:39] <bazhang> uname -r
[15:41] <eagles0513875> ty
[15:45] <BluesKaj> !version | eagles0513875
[15:48] <mczim> '''
[15:48] <danyyy> ?
[15:50] <eagles0513875> !ask | mczim
[16:00] <nektar> hello tout le monde
[16:00] <nektar> personne dit bonjour
[16:00] <nektar> c null
[16:03] <BluesKaj> bonjour nektar vous trouvez de l'aides a #kubuntu-fr
[16:03] <BluesKaj> en francais
[16:04] <bittin^> !english
[16:10] <nektar> is it an english chat?
[16:11] <bittin^> yes
[16:25] <danyyy> all the time...
[16:40] <eagles0513875> im getting frustrated now O_o
[16:53] <ivann> test
[16:55] <Handcrafted> After I updated my eeePc 900, my wireless network don't work anymore. Knetworkmanager doesn't detect the card. How can I fix this?`I'm running kubuntu 8.10
[17:01] <lars__> if i cant find a package, where do i find it?
[17:03] <lars__> hello?
[17:04] <Handcrafted> lars__: What package are you talking about
[17:04] <_gunni_> lars__: What kind of package? Maybe there is none.
[17:04] <Handcrafted> What is the name
[17:05] <quambo> I need to stop x. initctl list shows runlevels but not associated scripts. how do you start/stop specific scripts and view which ones are running?
[17:08] <quambo> oh i see i thought there was some front end. just literally run the script
[17:09] <samirnassar> I am runnin Kubuntu Intrepid and I am trying to connect to the google talk server.
[17:09] <samirnassar> s/runnin/running
[17:09] <samirnassar> and I get "Login failed for unknown reason"
[17:11] <lars__> has anyone got wacom drivers to work?
[17:11] <oim> hı tı evey one. ı am usimg kubuntu 8.10, ı want to change the desktop to xfce. is there any document for this
[17:13] <JontheEchidna> oim: install xubuntu-desktop, then you should be able to select xfce as the session type in the login menu
[17:13] <lars__> xfce waht is that i am using kubuntus latest build too
[17:13] <JontheEchidna> !xfce
[17:14] <lars__> gnome is gay
[17:14] <lars__> kde is much better
[17:15] <oim> JontheEchidna: is that all. i were waitnig a hard way. thanks for it
[17:15] <JontheEchidna> :P
[17:16] <Farmer> "better" is subjective..... anyone else running kde4.2 beta?
[17:16]  * samirnassar gives Kopete a good kick
[17:16] <Farmer> cause it seems that when the monitor goes into power saving mode, cpu load = 100%
[17:17] <Farmer> or rather 50% on a dualcore....
[17:17] <elwood> Farmer: i'm on 4.2, hot to check?
[17:17] <Farmer> using a laptop?
[17:17] <elwood> Farmer: when i go on standby the session is locked
[17:17] <elwood> and unlock fails
[17:17] <elwood> Farmer: yes
[17:18] <Farmer> ah k, not sure its the same then....
[17:18] <samirnassar> is there any special sauce needed to make Kopete work with Google's jabber?
[17:18] <Farmer> but you could try to turn off all power saving futures in "power managment" in advanced system settings
[17:19] <samirnassar> I can connect to the port via telnet so I don't think it is a connection problem
[17:19] <Farmer> and enable power controll in the display tab instead
[17:20] <Farmer> then activate that fancy cpu monitor widget or anything that's paints nice curves, wait for the computer to turn of the monitor, wait a minute or so, and then look at the graphs
[17:21] <elwood> Farmer: iìm trying
[17:22] <Farmer> <- does some more testing...
[17:26] <elwood> Farmer: are you here?
[17:26] <Farmer> now I am
[17:26] <Farmer> hmm, I didnt do it now....
[17:27] <elwood> so, i get 50% of my dualcore just before the monitor is suspended. but no continuos
[17:30] <Farmer> however, now that I think about it, it may have been that 32 -> 64 bit flashplugin for firefox that did it. It becomes a cpu hog when running ff for more than 20minutes or so. It also makes X unrespnsive somehow. npviewer.bin its called
[17:31] <elwood> my firefox was runnuning :)
[17:31] <Farmer> you run 64bit?
[17:31] <elwood> 32
[17:39] <snarkster> good morning
[17:40] <snarkster> just abit of news to share. I have all effects turned off on KDE4.2 beta 1 and attempted to start Diablo 2 and it broke kde.. Ive been working with it for a couple of days and its barely working. I renamed my .kde folder in an attempt to force it to recreate the configuration files and its been an uphill battle ever since
[17:40] <snarkster> this is strictly for information not a complaint.
[17:42] <amerigo> !windows
[17:43] <samirnassar> is anybody using Google Talk with Kopete?
[17:44] <snarkster> samirnassar: I dont think it works to well
[17:51] <billytwowilly> is there any place I can get alsa 1.0.18 updated packages for hardy?
[18:05] <pirky> hello i am really struggling with the kde bottom panel
[18:05] <pirky> i removed something and all my panel icons shifted to the far left
[18:05] <pirky> and kickoff is now on the desktop lol
[18:06] <pirky> if I go to panel settings and put mouse over trash icon in panel and try to move it to the far right it will not
[18:08] <madonna> hi all, i just installed and i am getting grub error 22, can anyone help?
[18:11] <lucax> hello! ive installed kde4 and when i want to start it i get an error sayin something about kdeinit4 is not installed or something like that... any ideas?
[18:11] <hellsing> madonna you must reinstall grub
[18:11] <Farmer> how did you install it?
[18:12] <hellsing> your grub have been Erased
[18:12] <lucax> from a repo its kde4.2
[18:12] <lucax> kde-nightly
[18:12] <lucax> sudo apt-get install ...
[18:12] <madonna> hellsing how?
[18:12] <hellsing> from a live cd
[18:13] <hellsing> search on ubuntu web site grub reinstall from live cd
[18:13] <madonna> hellsing is it possible to install only grub? i am running kubuntu right now
[18:13] <Farmer> hmm, lucax maby you'd have better luck with 4.1? 4.2 is still beta...
[18:13] <hellsing> yes but i haven't the doc in english :p
[18:14] <mirec> AHOJTE
[18:14] <lucax> Farmer, yeah but there are guys that are already using it, it has lots of bugs fix... u know what package is kdeinit4 in?
[18:15] <mirec> PISE TU NIEKTO?
[18:15] <hellsing> madonna : sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[18:15] <mirec> HALLO
[18:15] <hellsing> where sda is your primary hard drive
[18:15] <mirec> HOW DO YOU DO?
[18:15] <hellsing> mirec stop your caps
[18:16] <Farmer> no sorry... I run the beta too (4.1.80) I didnt get any errors...
[18:16] <madonna> hellsing thnx will reboot and see!!!
[18:17] <mirec> halooooo
[18:19] <mirec> have a nice day
[18:27] <snarkster> OT: man its cold in here
[18:31] <pirky> somehow i removed the icons in the panel when you minimize firefox, etc. what is this widget called
[18:31] <pirky> so I can bring it back
[18:31] <pirky> when i minimize firefox or another app now it just vanises
[18:34] <genii> System Tray / systray
[18:43] <jon_> hellsing grub-install that made grub rescue to run
[18:43] <jon_> what do i do from there?
[18:45] <DasEi> jon_:having prob with grub ?
[18:45] <jon_> nick doomdog
[18:45] <doomdog> DasEi yes
[18:45] <doomdog> DasEi error 22
[18:46] <doomdog> so someone suggested running grub-install from another kubuntu
[18:46] <DasEi> doomdog: one drive only ? only kubuntu installed ?
[18:46] <doomdog> DasEi no 3 drive
[18:47] <doomdog> DasEi kubuntu and xp, now trying to install another one
[18:47] <DasEi> doomdog: I see, ara you on kubuntu now ?
[18:47] <doomdog> DasEi yes
[18:47] <DasEi> open a terminal ...
[18:48] <DasEi> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:48] <DasEi> sudo apt-get install pastebinit,  doomdog
[18:49] <DasEi> sudo fdisk -l |  pastebinit                ,  doomdog
[18:49] <DasEi> url ?
[18:49] <doomdog> DasEi kk hold on
[18:50] <doomdog> http://pastebin.com/f425fa1fb
[18:53] <doomdog> DasEi http://pastebin.com/f425fa1fb
[18:53] <DasEi> doomdog: so before xp and kubuntu ran, then you installed the thirdand get the rerror ?
[18:54] <doomdog> yes i get the error while making the third(sdb i think) primary iin advanced bios settings
[18:55] <DasEi> doomdog: for usual system boots from sda, you can specifiy in menu lst, from where kernel image will be loaded
[18:57] <doomdog> DasEi k i tried that buti get some darn error
[18:57] <DasEi> doomdog: if you wanted to have a third os(linux), you'd install it and won't use a second bootloader, but add the neede entry to the existing one
[19:01] <DawnLight> hello. my firefox doesn't look like qt4 apps... even though i've configured it to
[19:01] <DawnLight> this is intrepid
[19:08] <DasEi> doomdog: need more advice in this ?
[19:10] <doomdog> DasEi not right now thanks for the help! need more people like you in other irc's!
[19:11] <DasEi> doomdog: #grub isn' too crowded, too, and let me gice you a link : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[19:13] <gonzo> hola
[19:14] <gonzo> algun espanol
[19:14] <mari> ciao
[19:15] <gonzo> alguien me puede ayudar___
[19:15] <gonzo> ???
[19:17] <bobesponja> gonzo: #kubuntu-es
[19:28] <antoranz> Hi, guys!
[19:28] <antoranz> want to help me out here with a problem with the DirectRendering?
[19:28] <antoranz> when KDM starts KDE, it's got no direct rendering
[19:29] <antoranz> I've got the nvidia module running
[19:29] <antoranz> and if I start kde from the VT (startkde), It does start with DirectRendering
[19:32] <tobor> Hi, I have a system which I believe is taking longer to boot.  At Boot time it is now taking 1 minute-forty seconds to complete the task "Mounting root file system".  IIRC this used to take less than a second? Anyone have  a guess as to what this symptom might indicate? Hard drive is SATA that does not support smartctl
[19:33] <tobor> Note system is LTS 6.06
[19:36] <MilitantPotato> In the add widgets window, what does enabling the gold star icon do?
[19:38] <JontheEchidna> MilitantPotato: it puts it in your favorites list
[19:38] <MilitantPotato> What effect does that have?
[19:39] <_gunni_> tobor: Filesystem is checked every 30th boot or so, so maybe it was just a filesystem check
[19:39] <claydoh> MilitantPotato: it makes them 'favorites' which you can  filter fromm the top dropdown box on the Add Widgets app
[19:40] <MilitantPotato> Ah, alright thank you.
[19:40] <claydoh> J always faster on the kb :)
[19:40] <claydoh> er JontheEchidna
[19:41] <JontheEchidna> :P
[19:43] <nixi> servus
[19:56] <truthslave> i can see whats running on my panel... and a lot  of my apps are hidden when i start em
[19:56] <truthslave> cant
[19:58] <truthslave> how di show whats running......back on my panel
[20:12] <matrix640> so whats going on
[20:17] <nixi> hi. I have a problem. I configurated my Windoweffects from KDE. I switched a OpenGL option into Fallback by mistake. Now my KDE restarts everytime..
[20:17] <nixi> where can i change this option back?
[20:24] <embrik> I have, without
[20:25] <embrik> I have remove networkmanager and knetworkmanager, accidentially, and am now not able to connect to the internet neither on wireless or cabled - where do I find the deb-packages for these two programmes? Tried to find the on the cd - but no luck :-(
[20:28] <Dr_willis> embrik,  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/   in there somewhere....
[20:28] <Dr_willis> I got that url from the /etc/apt/sources.list file :)
[20:29] <Dr_willis> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdenetwork/
[20:29] <Dr_willis> good luck. :)
[20:29] <nixi> Dr_willis: do u know where i can find the OpenGL options for the KDE windoweffects?
[20:29] <Dr_willis> nixi,  nope. I rarely mess with that effect in kde4. I imagine its in the .kde/* files somewhere
[20:32] <nixi> thx
[20:32] <embrik> Dr_willis, thanks
[20:42] <Ramblurr> several packages fail when updating to 4.2 beta
[20:42] <Ramblurr> due to file collisions i think
[20:43] <Ramblurr> systemsettings conflicts with kdebase-workspace-bin
[20:43] <MilitantPotato> How do you edit the Kmenu?
[20:43] <Ramblurr> pkg-kde-tools conflicts kdesdk-scripts
[20:43] <embrik>  can anybody help me, I have removed both knetworkmanager and network-manager-kde and now I have no internett connecion - I've searched http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/, and tried to install packages, but I only get dependency errors - what do I do
[20:46] <draik> How can I get my DVDs to play? I have installed libdvdcss2 and it still does not play DVDs because of encryption. What am I missing?
[20:47] <pisecx> hi. where is network manager applet in kde4?
[20:48] <OculusAquilae> pisecx: I can start it from the menu via knetworkmanager
[20:48] <MilitantPotato> draik: !medibuntu
[20:48] <MilitantPotato> err
[20:48] <MilitantPotato> !medibuntu
[20:49] <MilitantPotato> draik: that got DVD playback working correctly for me.
[20:49] <draik> I have medibuntu in my repos.
[20:49] <pisecx> OculusAquilae: shouldn't it start automatically?
[20:50] <draik> I have followed the instructions and still nothing.
[20:50] <embrik> draik, apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:50] <OculusAquilae> pisecx: it does here
[20:51] <pisecx> OculusAquilae: I have ubuntu, have installed kde package, logged into kde and can not setup network at all
[20:51] <draik> embrik: kubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version.
[20:52] <OculusAquilae> pisecx: You have installed kde or kubuntu-desktop package?
[20:53] <pisecx> OculusAquilae: kde =)
[20:53] <pisecx> OculusAquilae: now I see
[20:53] <OculusAquilae> :)
[20:53] <MilitantPotato> draik: did you restart your media player?
[20:53] <pisecx> OculusAquilae: shoud I purge kde?
[20:53] <pisecx> * should
[20:53] <draik> MilitantPotato: Yes. I've been going through this since I upgraded to 8.10
[20:54] <OculusAquilae> Having installed kde should not be a problem but for knetworkmanager you have to install kubuntu-desktop
[20:54] <OculusAquilae> or you can install it seperately
[20:54] <pisecx> OculusAquilae: what is the difference between this two packages?
[20:54] <pisecx> * these
[20:56] <draik> MilitantPotato: If I convert the DVD to an ISO with k9copy, I can mount it and have kaffeine play it. Otherwise, direct play from my DVD drive will give me the encryption error message.
[20:57] <embrik> draik, And you can't watch dvd? Then I don't know
[20:57] <OculusAquilae> pisecx: kde should install the whole kde which comes from the kde project and kubuntu-desktop installs the package selection of kubuntu with some extra packages and without some other packages that are in kde
[20:57] <draik> embrik: Only if I convert the DVD to an ISO and then mount it.
[20:57] <pisecx> OculusAquilae: so the best idea is to install both
[20:57] <pisecx> OculusAquilae: am I righ?
[20:57] <pisecx> * right
[20:58] <MilitantPotato> draik: if you open the DVD from dolphin will kaffeine play it?
[20:58] <OculusAquilae> I prefer installing kubuntu-desktop only because I like a system cleaned up :)
[20:58] <pisecx> OculusAquilae: ok, now I see, thanks
[20:58] <pisecx> OculusAquilae: I also prefer clean system )
[20:58] <draik> MilitantPotato: What do you mean?
[20:59] <MilitantPotato> draik: browse to the DVD drive and open it with kaff.
[20:59] <OculusAquilae> pisecx: and if i need a package that isn't in kubuntu-desktop I can install it seperately
[20:59] <draik> MilitantPotato: No, but I will try that now.
[21:00] <pisecx> OculusAquilae: yep
[21:02] <macjason0607> how do i convert a avi to a mp4
[21:02] <Dr_willis> !find avid
[21:02] <embrik> macjason0607, devede
[21:03] <macjason0607> embrik, do i apt-get that ?
[21:03] <embrik> yes
[21:03] <Dr_willis> macjason0607,  acidemux - can also do that.. depending on what you are wanting to do exactly
[21:03] <Dr_willis> or ffmpeg, or mencoder
[21:03] <Dr_willis> ffmpeg foo.avi foo.mp4
[21:03] <macjason0607> Dr_willis, that easy ?
[21:04] <embrik> Dr_willis, I like the gui in devede :-) Not too much konsole oriented
[21:04] <Dr_willis> I just use devede to make dvd  iso files.
[21:04] <Dr_willis> of course devede is calling ffmpeg or mencoder in the background
[21:05] <macjason0607> wow
[21:05] <macjason0607> devede is easy
[21:05] <draik> MilitantPotato: No, that did not work.
[21:05] <Dr_willis> devede has some quirks....
[21:05] <macjason0607> you just make a title put file in and boom ?
[21:06] <MilitantPotato> draik:try installing w32codecs and libxine1-all-plugins
[21:06] <Dr_willis> !info devede
[21:12] <MilitantPotato> draik: see if VLC will play the DVD, to rule out the program you're using being the problem
[21:16] <macjason0607> can devde make dvd's ?
[21:16] <Dr_willis> macjason0607,  thats its purpose.. to take video fikles and mnake dvd  image files to burn
[21:16] <macjason0607> ok
[21:16] <Dr_willis> just converting videos is one step in the process
[21:16] <Dr_willis> devede (source: devede): program to create video DVDs.
[21:17] <Dr_willis> :) hence the description....
[21:17] <Dr_willis> DeVeDe   :) note DVD in the name.
[21:18] <Dragonath> "error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" <-- how do I fix this?
[21:18] <pisecx> have logged into kde4, after installing it via kde and kubuntu-desktop, but tray is disabled. disabled like html disabled icons: I can see that some applications are started, but can not do anything: and of course can not setup network
[21:19] <BluesKaj> tovid also does dvd conversion and it's more stable than devede..comes as a cli or gui
[21:21] <draik> MilitantPotato: Seems that Kaffeine might be the issue since VLC plays fine. I just installed libxine1-all-plugins. Let me check if it works now.
[21:22] <draik> MilitantPotato: No, didn't change a thing with kaffeine. Still the same error message:  This DVD Video is encrypted.  To be able to watch it you will need to install libdvdcss by running from a console: sudo /usr/share/doc/kaffeine/install-css.sh.  In some countries it is illegal to install the decryption software without permission from the video copyright holder.
[21:23] <MilitantPotato> draik: I have to open kaff, then click play dvd for kaff to work, otherwise I get that exact same error
[21:24] <MilitantPotato> draik: also, if I stop the DVD, and play it again, it throws that error up for some reason, even though it was just playing it
[21:25] <MilitantPotato> draik: VLC is a better media player IMO, if you can get past it's uglyness.
[21:25] <Dr_willis> never noticed it being ugly..
[21:25] <Dr_willis> i just need a few buttons and a slider and full screen. :)
[21:26] <draik> MilitantPotato: I get the error message either way.
[21:27] <draik> Don't suppose anyone here knows the code for Wanted? It's binary and I know it has to correspond to a letter since the binary answer will be an ASCII character.
[21:27] <benbloom> ok-- I have to say this. and I know it's pointless to even say and may even be offtopic, but KDE4 is AWEFULL!! it seems to combine all the things that are suck about both Windows and OSX (esp. lack of flexibility and intuitive use) without being familiar enough to be easily adopted by someone who has worked with any WM or OS. Why is Ubuntu not supporting KDE3 in intrepid. and what has happened to the development of KDE that it has
[21:27] <benbloom> gone so terribly wrong!'
[21:27] <embrik> I need the packages to get my wife's laptop back on the internet - I've removed network-manager-kde and networkmanager. I have booted the laptop on a kubuntu cd and thought I could find the packages there - can anyounbe point me in the right direction, plaeas
[21:36] <benbloom> embrik: I have also been having problems getting my laptop online with kde4. in Ubuntu Intrepid I was able to get online by simply accessing the /etc/network/interfaces file and using ifconfig up and down to get on and off. are you having problems with wireless? or wired or both connections
[21:38] <embrik> benbloom, both :-(
[21:40] <embrik> anybody - I have removed network-manager-kde and am unable to get online both on wireless and cabled - what do I do?
[21:41] <benbloom> are you familiar with ifconfig and /etc/network/interfaces?
[21:43] <pisecx> http://smages.com/i/f3/5a/f35a6efb387e277c94158adb7abc55f9.png can anybody help me with this problem?
[21:43] <benbloom> !networking | embrik
[21:44] <benbloom> hmm. sorry
[21:44] <pisecx> gg
[21:45] <mrksbrd> embrik: does it still see your h/w?
[21:45] <mrksbrd> pisecx: what is your prblem your having the image doesn't show anything?
[21:46] <pisecx> mrksbrd: have you seen the image?
[21:46] <pisecx> mrksbrd: panel is locked
[21:46] <pisecx> mrksbrd: tray is locked
[21:47] <mrksbrd> ahh just saw that.....can't help u with that one .....sorry
[21:47] <pisecx> ok, I see
[21:47] <pisecx> somebody said it's a known problem
[21:47] <mrksbrd> is it a fresh install?
[21:48] <Dr_willis> the cashew button/menus have a unlock item i thought
[21:48] <pisecx> mrksbrd: have ubuntu, installed kubuntu-desktop and kde packages
[21:48] <embrik> what programme could I install to connect to internet, I have removed networkmanager...
[21:48] <embrik> mrksbrd, yes
[21:49] <benbloom> embrik: have you tried using the command line to connect?
[21:49] <mrksbrd> what version u using 8.10
[21:49] <pisecx> mrksbrd: me?
[21:49] <mrksbrd> no sorry embrik
[21:49] <pisecx> ok, just use nick names )
[21:49] <embrik> benbloom, yes, but network/interfaces doesn't contain eth0 or eth1, just lo
[21:50] <embrik> benbloom, what should I write?
[21:51] <embrik> !networking
[21:51] <embrik> !network
[21:51] <eagles0513875> !sysimage
[21:51] <eagles0513875> !info sysimage
[21:51] <eagles0513875> !packaging
[21:52] <benbloom> ubottu: you never listen to me!
[21:52] <benbloom> i know you're smarter than you let on.
[21:53] <Ch1ppy> hey, I want to check out the kde 4.2 beta, but I need MSN packages... can I expect an update to the release announcement once the msn packages have been completed?
[21:55] <embrik> It seems I can install network-manager-kde on another laptop with ubuntu - is it possible to use apt-get to just install the deb-packages and find it in a catalogue afterwards?
[21:56] <benbloom> not sure I understand your question
[21:57] <benbloom> not sure I understand your question embrik
[21:58] <embrik> benbloom, I apt-get -d install network-manager-kde on a ubuntu laptop - the -d option means just downloading the packages. Do you know where to find them?
[22:01] <benbloom> but why do you want to download only? did you say you removed it? why not reinstall?
[22:03] <embrik> benbloom, I have not internet connection on the laptop in question - I am using another laptop to get reach of the programme I need
[22:04] <chris062689> Is KDevelop in the 8.10 repos made for creating KDE 4 apps, or KDE 3?
[22:06] <benbloom> oh right. sorry. not very clear of me. are you running the same version of Kubuntu on both computers?
[22:07] <benbloom> try adding this line to /etc/network/interfaces:
[22:08] <benbloom> auto eth0 (if that's your wired device)
[22:08] <benbloom> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[22:09] <benbloom> then type: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:09] <embrik> benbloom, I'll try
[22:10] <macjason0607> can't i burn an avi to a dvd ?
[22:10] <benbloom> btw: I'm not an expert. and only know the tools that I've used in my own struggle with the same issue
[22:11] <benbloom> macjason0607: tovid is a nice utility for this
[22:11] <embrik> benbloom, yiiiiipppppi :-)
[22:12] <macjason0607> benbloom, how do you guys know about all these packages ?
[22:12] <benbloom> nice embrik! works?
[22:13] <benbloom> here-- and google. but mostly here macjason0607
[22:13] <benbloom> that's what's so great about the irc
[22:13] <embrik> benbloom, works back in the game :-)
[22:14] <macjason0607> benbloom, what kubuntu avi to dvd ?
[22:14] <bmageors> hello everyone..
[22:14] <benbloom> horay embrik. so glad I could help. now i only wish I could understand why my wireless laptop isn't getting dhcpoffers from my router
[22:15] <rogan> is there a way to link a folder in another folder?
[22:15] <macjason0607> i just installed tvoid .. i don't see it in my multimedia section
[22:15] <macjason0607> is it a term app
[22:16] <benbloom> macjason0607: i'm jsut saying that the irc is a great tool for asking real people in realtime about packages. I will say this. ToVid falls very short of VSO's ConvertXtoDVD (which doesn't work properly via WINE)
[22:16] <macjason0607> is it a term utily or gui ?
[22:17] <benbloom> well macjason0607, it does have a CLI and and Interactive CLI as well as a GUI but it should show up in multimedia
[22:17] <benbloom> you may need to install the gui package
[22:17] <rogan> How do you create a folder shortcut ?
[22:18] <benbloom> sudo apt-get install tovidgui -- macjason0607
[22:18] <benbloom> rogan: ln -s folder foldershortcut
[22:20] <macjason0607> thanks benbloom
[22:21] <macjason0607> i got to right a lot of packages down because if i ever have to reinstall i need to know them
[22:21] <benbloom> np macjason0607. it needs work. I'm actually working on my own programming/scripting skills specifically to contribute to this package
[22:22] <benbloom> well tovidgui will install tovid as well so that one alone should suffice in your list macjason0607
[22:27] <Ramblurr> how can i install this source package? http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/intrepid/simdmath
[22:29] <benbloom> anyone else have random problems with kicker dying lately? seems to just stop showing up (Kubuntu 8.04)
[22:31] <Cannon> hey guys, what can I use to unzip files?
[22:32] <macjason0607> benbloom, im still new to kubuntu been using it for a week .. what is kicker ? i know when i empty trash my panel crashes
[22:33] <benbloom> kicker is the panel at the botom of the screen. but if you're using Kubuntu 8.10 (ibex) you're running a totally dif version of KDE than me
[22:34] <Cannon> do you know of a zip program from kubuntu benbloom?
[22:34] <antoranz> Can anybody help me with a problem that I have with kdm?
[22:41] <benbloom> canon use ark
[22:44] <XVampireX> Hi everyone
[22:46] <benbloom> hello XVampireX. do you have a question? or just being friendly
[22:46] <XVampireX> Actually I do need some help, installed kde 4.2, no gtk theme manager available it seems
[22:46] <XVampireX> like qt-gtk-engine stuff
[22:46] <XVampireX> or gtk-qt, whatever it was
[22:47] <XVampireX> and nor does gtk-kde4 work
[22:47] <simonsbd> hello room
[22:48] <benbloom> I'm no help with kde4 still using Hardy and after my first exp with Kubuntu 8.10 not planning on switching. in fact I'll probably be switching to fedora
[22:49] <XVampireX> benbloom: Oh well, fine :D
[22:49] <macjason0607> guys
[22:49] <macjason0607> can i get a quick command
[22:49]  * benbloom greets simonsbd but can't speak for the room
[22:49] <macjason0607> i want to mount an iso i just made and read it as a cd
[22:49] <tkstka> There is annoying error popping up everytime I try to open a torrent
[22:49] <embrik> quit
[22:49] <embrik> end
[22:49] <embrik> leave
[22:50] <simonsbd> thanks
[22:50] <tkstka> KDEldit could not launch /user/bin/ktorrent/
[22:50] <tkstka> ?
[22:50] <tkstka> what do I do
[22:50] <tkstka> I hate that popup
[22:50] <benbloom> what's on the iso macjason0607?
[22:51] <tkstka> second problem is how do I make torrents that I download from firefox to open up with ktorrent everytime
[22:51] <tkstka> I hate to go to dl directory and set up
[22:51] <tkstka> :c
[22:51] <XVampireX> whois apachelogger
[22:51] <XVampireX> oi
[22:52] <macjason0607> benbloom, a movie
[22:52] <benbloom> macjason0607: if you right-click on the iso it should give you "open with" options
[22:52] <macjason0607> nope
[22:52] <macjason0607> yea open with
[22:52] <macjason0607> i see it
[22:52] <simonsbd> I like Pclos no problems with it, I have screen problem with 8.10
[22:53] <simonsbd> Kubuntu
[22:53] <macjason0607> what should i open it with ?
[22:53] <Farmer> Anyone running kde4.2 beta?
[22:54] <simonsbd> that mit be what I have
[22:54] <Belse> anyone had any problems with desktop not being aligned in kde 4.2beta?
[22:55] <benbloom> macjason0607: are you running Intrepid?
[22:55] <simonsbd> yes I have and also going back out to sign if the mouse is moved to fast
[22:56] <simonsbd> sorry sign in or login
[22:56] <macjason0607> yes benbloom
[22:56] <macjason0607> benbloom, i want to burn the iso as a vcd
[22:56] <robin0800> simonsbd: yes to both
[22:56] <simonsbd> yes
[22:57] <benbloom> ah in that case. I would recommend using k3b if it's available
[22:57] <simonsbd> but I am still learning Linux here
[22:58] <benbloom> macjason0607: is the iso an image of a vcd?
[22:58] <macjason0607> how do i tell
[22:59] <simonsbd> the new verson will burn to CD or DVD
[23:01] <benbloom> well when you click on the iso what hapens?
[23:04] <simonsbd> mine just started to burn to the cdr to make cd
[23:05] <isaacj87> Hey everyone, can someone tell me why my twitter plasmoid doesn't show updates anymore?
[23:05] <benbloom> so macjason0607 what happens when you open the iso with the kde default app (just by left-clicking on it)
[23:07] <tkstka> second problem is how do I make torrents that I download from firefox to open up with ktorrent everytime? So is there way to make a file open from a certaint program when you download it
[23:07] <tkstka> ?
[23:12] <benbloom> tkstka: I have done this.
[23:12] <tkstka> so you know
[23:12] <tkstka> can you help me
[23:12] <tkstka> :)
[23:13] <benbloom> 1 sec
[23:14] <benbloom> so in edit:preferences there's a tab for applications. it should be listed under TORRENT
[23:15] <antoranz> guys, there are like 200 items in /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/session
[23:15] <antoranz> which ones are enabled to be shown on kdm?
[23:16] <benbloom> tkstka: did that work?
[23:20] <tkstka> benbloom: didnt quite get
[23:20] <tkstka> that
[23:20] <tkstka> where exactly
[23:20] <benbloom> antoranz: you may want to ask at #kde instead. I think you're trying to mess with your splash but I don't really know much about kdm
[23:20] <tkstka> do I do changes
[23:20] <athlon1> Where are konquereor options? With kde 3.51 konqueror had more options that now: devices, printers, ... Where are the now?
[23:20] <benbloom> tkstka: in firefox, click on the edit menu then preferences
[23:21] <benbloom> it opens a window that should have several tabs at the top. click on applications
[23:21] <antoranz> I wish it were a splash problem, man. :'( I've been asking about my problem for a week.. not a word of help
[23:21] <tkstka> ya
[23:22] <tkstka> I found it where is exactly firefox located
[23:22] <tkstka> so I can select
[23:22] <tkstka> it from
[23:22] <joseph> ciao
[23:22] <antoranz> benbloom: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/303576
[23:24] <benbloom> wait-- no you want to do this from firefox's menu. while running firefox
[23:24] <benbloom> but ai just looked at your earlier post and realized. do you have ktorrent installed properly?
[23:26] <tkstka> benbloom:  thanks
[23:26] <tkstka> I got it to work
[23:26] <benbloom> like i said before antoranz I'm not using kde4 and think I'll be switching from Kubuntu altogether because their implimentation of KDE4 is terrible
[23:27] <benbloom> it sounds like a hardware compatibility problem with your proprietary hardware. again. I recommend you ask the fellas over at #kde.
[23:28] <antoranz> but that makes no sense.... how come if I just call startkde on a running X session, it works?
[23:29] <antoranz> I have gnome also set and it's started without directrendering
[23:29] <Ashex> how do I get rid of the password prompt when mounting disks in dolphin?
[23:29] <antoranz> man... how crazy is this?
[23:29] <tkstka> very noob question but what is the difference between gnome and KDE
[23:30] <cuznt> i do not know what gnome is
[23:30] <cuznt> but kde rocks dude
[23:30] <gl_> tkstka: if you are new try both. I like kde better
[23:31] <tkstka> well ya
[23:31] <tkstka> but what is the difference
[23:31] <tkstka> is there any
[23:31] <tkstka> ?
[23:31] <tkstka> :
[23:31] <tkstka> O
[23:31] <gl_> they are different window managers
[23:31] <benbloom> tkstka: gnome and KDE are different Desktop managers they can be thought of as a GUI for your OS. do a google search for "desktop environment" "window manager" for more info
[23:36] <Wicked> !awn
[23:38] <benbloom> I use JWM on my old clunker laptop instead of gnome, though I still use several gnome libs and applets
[23:39] <tkstka> this is so nice channel
[23:39] <tkstka> :)
[23:40] <benbloom> yes-- I'm gonna miss it when I switch to Fedora (can't stand Kubuntu Intrepid)
[23:44] <Zehava> I'm using Kubuntu Hardy KDE 4 and I accidentally removed the task manager from the bar at the bottom of the desktop, so now it doesn't show me the tabs of what's running. How can I put it back?
[23:46] <benbloom> why are you still on Hardy if you're using kde4? migration to Intrepid should be very easy for you.
[23:47] <Wicked> hmm. i installed awn and started it...but i dont see it anywhere. is it not possilbe to use it in kubuntu8.10?
[23:55] <cuznt> !awn
[23:55] <benbloom> I would guess not Wicked. KDE 4 is a whole new world
[23:56] <cuznt> it would appear so
[23:56] <Wicked> yea. i had to install compiz and run compiz 1st
[23:56] <Wicked> *then* start awn
[23:56] <Wicked> seems to be working now...
[23:56] <yanko> ohh man ubuntu ppl can really help me
[23:57] <yanko> i use ubuntu
[23:57] <yanko> i need some help
[23:57] <yanko> please
[23:57] <benbloom> !patience what's up yanko
[23:57] <yanko> lol
[23:57] <yanko> i use vista and ubuntu , i installed ubuntu inside from vista
[23:58] <yanko> and  i had 2 partions on same hdd, i was able to see the partion in vista for ubuntu, well since i got new hdd for ubuntu i wanna uninstall ubuntu but i cant see the partion in vista
[23:59] <yanko> anyone knows why?