[05:35] <fiveiron> anyone know of an app to rip the audio track out of a video?
[05:35] <roho> rob_p: alright, well thanks for listening
[05:35] <Jordan_U> DrkCodeman, Is this the repository you are using? http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[05:35] <bullgard4> What files does the director< /etc/acpi/resume.d summarize?
[05:35] <rabidweezle_> anyone know how to setup widescreen resolutions?
[05:35] <bullgard4> What files does the directory /etc/acpi/resume.d summarize?
[05:35] <Jordan_U> RabidWeezle, What kind of gfx card do you have?
[05:35] <DrkCodeman> Jordan_U, wine-0.9.39.tar.bz2
[05:35] <DrkCodeman> from: http://www.winehq.org/
[05:35] <DrkCodeman> Jordan_U, under "but the source is available now"
[05:35] <rabidweezle_> Jordan_U, I have an nvidia with the restricted drivers installed, geforce fx 5700 ultra
[05:35] <rabidweezle_> I got a 19 inch widescreen monitor
[05:35] <rabidweezle_> it takes a resolution of like something by 1440
[05:35] <Nicark> 1440x900 ?
[05:35] <rob_p> roho: As a side thought, what if the reinstall is trying to use the old/modified configuration file?  Did you specifically remove it before reinstalling the server?  If not, perhaps dpkg found the existing config and opted to have the new install utilize the old config file.  Check and see if there is more than one sshd_config file in the /etc/ssh dir.
[05:35] <rabidweezle_> yeah, something like that
[05:35] <rabidweezle_> Nicark, you know how to set that resolution?
[05:35] <DrkCodeman> Jordan_U, did you see the wine distro?
[05:35] <Jordan_U> rabidweezle_, run: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" it will ask for the driver to use and the resolution to use, choose "nvidia" ( not "nv" ) and 1440x900
[05:36] <Nicark> RabidWeezle, you have to configure your monitor in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:36] <[nige] > I have solved my synaptic problem
[05:36] <rabidweezle_> thanks Jordan_U
[05:36] <Jordan_U> DrkCodeman, What do you mean by "the wine distro" ?
[05:36] <roho> rob_p: no, that wouldn't happen because i used synaptic to completely remove them (incl. config files)
[05:36] <roho> i wonder if it's a PAM thing?
[05:36] <DrkCodeman> Jordan_U, as i said when i try to run ./configure on wine i get configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:36] <[nige] > I had to add the stuff to my xorg
[05:36] <[nige] > I have found a tutorial if anyone wants to read it
[05:37] <rob_p> roho: Ok then.
[05:37] <DrkCodeman> ill google search it prolly have better luck
[05:37] <Jordan_U> DrkCodeman, You probably just want to wait a day or two for a .deb but if you really want to compile from source...
[05:38] <DrkCodeman> apparently there is a huge known issue with x64 builds of ubuntu
[05:38] <DrkCodeman> the compiler is crap
[05:38] <naknak987> What program can I use to play store bought dvd movies
[05:38] <Jordan_U> DrkCodeman, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:38] <bullgard4> rabidweezle_: Try the command 'X Resolution Probe': xresprob.
[05:38] <naknak987> totem wont do it
[05:38] <Jordan_U> DrkCodeman, No, it's just not installed yet
[05:38] <KI4IKL> naknak987, You need some codecs.
[05:38] <KI4IKL> !codecs
[05:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:38] <Jordan_U> DrkCodeman, sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[05:39] <[nige] > !nvidia
[05:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:39] <KI4IKL> !codecs < naknak987
[05:39] <naknak987> Thanks, I will try those
[05:39] <KI4IKL> naknak987, check what ubotu said about multimedia issues :)
[05:39] <rabidweezle_> what's the other resolutions with the same aspect ratio of 1440x900?
[05:39] <KI4IKL> and then you should be able to use totem to play stuff.
[05:39] <DrkCodeman> why not: sudo apt-get install libc6-dev g++ gcc
[05:40] <rob_p> KI4IKL: ham?
[05:41] <mdious> cya's
[05:41] <Davasaurous> !multiverse
[05:41] <Jordan_U> DrkCodeman, Because meta packages and build-dep are easier and take less research on my part :)
[05:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:41] <arooni> how can i change a read only file to write as well?
[05:41] <Jordan_U> arooni, NTFS?
[05:41] <arooni> nopes, its on ext3
[05:41] <arooni> on my ubuntu
[05:41] <Nicark> chmod ?
[05:41] <DrkCodeman> Jordan_U, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-17033.html
[05:42] <DrkCodeman> :)
[05:42] <DrkCodeman> there's your research :P
[05:42] <fnf> Is there anyone here has the microphone working ?.
[05:42] <DrkCodeman> im supprised ububtu doesnt come with xmms
[05:42] <DrkCodeman> ubuntu
[05:42] <fnf> I've been trying to set up ALSA in anyway I can imagine, but no dime.
[05:43] <Jordan_U> DrkCodeman, Why on earth are you still running hoary ?!?
[05:43] <DrkCodeman> hoary?
[05:43] <Jordan_U> DrkCodeman, That is what that post is referring to
[05:43] <DrkCodeman> no im on the latest 64 build
[05:44] <DrkCodeman> the problem continues through the latest 64 build
[05:44] <KI4IKL> rob_p, yes, I'm a ham :)
[05:44] <KI4IKL> QRZ me :)
[05:44] <brohan> Oh god, I'm laptop shopping
[05:44] <brohan> Why the hell do tablets look so cool
[05:44] <brohan> And despite their coolness, I'm not sure of their linux-compatability
[05:44] <brohan> anyone know?
[05:45] <KI4IKL> I know yhou can install the wacom driver to get a stylus working.
[05:45] <PanzerMKZ> what tablet you looking at
[05:45] <KI4IKL> I'd google it to see what you can get that'll work.
[05:45] <Jordan_U> DrkCodeman, Then that post probably has nothing to do with your current problem as it is verrrrry out of date :)
[05:45] <PanzerMKZ> we got one working at work
[05:45] <PanzerMKZ> and it runs Kubuntu just fine
[05:45] <brohan> http://www.pc.ibm.com/ca/thinkpad/tablet/index.html
[05:45] <robert98374> Hello Everyone!
[05:45] <robert98374> Hello Everyone!
[05:45] <robert98374> lol
[05:45] <brohan> With the stylus and all?
[05:49] <PanzerMKZ> yea
[05:49] <DrkCodeman> the error message is exactly the same and its coincidence both are refering to a 64 build
[05:49] <robert98374> How do I edit the Xorg.conf?
[05:49] <KI4IKL> find it and do sudo gedit <where it is here>
[05:49] <TheCougar> isn't that just a laptop with a really manuvierable screen that has touch screen ability?
[05:49] <rob_p> KI4IKL: Cool.  It's a great hobby.
[05:49] <brohan> Yeah, that's it
[05:49] <KI4IKL> rob_p, check pm
[05:49] <KI4IKL> yeah
[05:49] <KI4IKL> I'm 12...I got in it win fifth grade
[05:49] <KI4IKL> are you a ham, rob_p ?
[05:49] <Jordan_U> robert98374, What do you need to change in it?
[05:49] <rob_p> KI4IKL: I was ke4ori years ago...
[05:49] <KI4IKL> license expired?
[05:49] <brohan> PanzerMKZ, did the screen rotate properly? or did you have to manually do xrandr rotate
[05:49] <robert98374> jordan I am trying to enable the double buffer for conky
[05:49] <lo4fer> please, no scrolling
[05:49] <rob_p> KI4IKL: No.  I moved and upgraded to Advanced Class.  FCC issued me another callsign.
[05:49] <KI4IKL> ahh cool
[05:49] <KI4IKL> join #hamradio ...great channel to hang in.
[05:49] <DrkCodeman> what is a good app for mounting images for linux?
[05:49] <GigaClon> how can kill a process at a certain time?
[05:49] <DrkCodeman> non command line
[05:49] <rabidweezle_> wooty, got it all installed...
[05:49] <rob_p> KI4IKL: I've been in there before.  Pretty slow sometimes.
[05:49] <rabidweezle_> now to insure that it's using my entire hard drive since... well.. my bios doesn't see it all
[05:49] <TheCougar> i'll be ready for a tablet PC when the paper is just a oled thin film keyboard and the screen is really thin and does e paper
[05:49] <lo4fer> gigaclon: maybe try "man kill"
[05:49] <KI4IKL> it's picked up ...I love it in there. Everyone is real helpful when I am stumped in there.
[05:49] <sonictwin> how do you execute a .pl file
[05:49] <Terramel> Hiho
[05:49] <rob_p> KI4IKL: I'm in there now.
[05:49] <Jordan_U_> robert98374, Do you have the correct drivers for your GFX card installed? that is more likely the issue
[05:50] <PanzerMKZ> hold on I am asking now
[05:50] <KI4IKL> rob_p, and i'm talkign to you :_)
[05:50] <PanzerMKZ> brohan: I am asking now
[05:50] <Terramel> My 4 ports USB Hub is not working in Ubuntu Feisty ;/
[05:50] <robert98374> jordan_U I did it last time and it worked fine
[05:50] <weltschmerz> what's a way to record the output audio from a program?
[05:51] <GigaClon> sonictwin, you should be able to just double click it
[05:51] <GigaClon> sonictwin, but perl has to be installe
[05:51] <robert98374> Jordan_U I had to wipe the HD and reinstall and I am trying to get everything up and running but I forgot the code to access the Xorg.conf
[05:51] <Jordan_U_> robert98374, OK, run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:51] <dawn_chorus> Terramel, does your BIOS report detecting the hub at boot time?
[05:53] <rabidweezle_> !codecs
[05:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:53] <m0u5e> anyone know why after installinga nd configing imwheel my scroll would stop working?
[05:53] <robert98374> Jordan_U thanks
[05:53] <ToddEDM2> question : why do you prefer gnnome over KDE
[05:53] <Dr_willis> ToddEDM2,  I dont. :)
[05:53] <ToddEDM2> lol
[05:53] <Jordan_U_> !offtopic | ToddEDM2
[05:53] <ubotu> ToddEDM2: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:54] <robert98374> Jordan_U_ do you know what he line would be to add it so it uses the double buffer/
[05:54] <robert98374> ?
[05:54] <reston5> whats a good keyboard modifier program
[05:54] <ToddEDM2> question still stands
[05:54] <Jordan_U_> robert98374, No, sorry
[05:55] <roho> rob_p: well, i reinstalled the PAM libraries.  no dice.
[05:55] <robert98374> Jordan_U_ no worries :)
[05:55] <roho> i wonder if it's a problem with the version?
[05:55] <Jordan_U_> ToddEDM2, This channel is for support, not polls
[05:55] <DrkCodeman> is there a non command based image mounting tool for linux?
[05:55] <m0u5e> anyone know how to config my mouse scroll up and down to work?
[05:55] <lo4fer> !dillweed
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dillweed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <TheCougar> who thinks i'm really pretty!?
[05:56] <TheCougar> oh no polls? bla nevermind:(
[05:56] <robert98374> Jordan_U_ its Load "dbe" with the spaces to make it match with the rest of them
[05:57] <bamzin> hello. ive trid to update my ubuntu distro and just broke it. now when i login the screen freezes and i cant even move the cursor. how can i reinstall ubuntu without losing my files?
[05:57] <ToddEDM2> lol Jordan_U
[05:58] <Jordan_U_> bamzin, Do you have your /home on a separate partition?
[05:58] <bamzin> Jordan_U_: no.. its on the same partition
[05:58] <DrkCodeman> Jordan_U, that apt get is huge
[05:59] <DrkCodeman> whats the other?
[05:59] <GigaClon> is there a way to turn off the screen at will ( not after some time )
[05:59] <bullgard4> What files does the directory /etc/acpi/resume.d summarize?
[05:59] <matux> how do you know if home is in a different partition???
[05:59] <Jordan_U_> DrkCodeman, Probably not much, you probably have all the dependencies you need for the binary already
[05:59] <jetscreamer> matux: type mount
[06:00] <jetscreamer> in an xterm
[06:00] <rob_p> roho: So when you try to connect, the connection is established but you get no password prompt, or is the connection not even established?
[06:00] <DrkCodeman> Jordan_U, do you know of a mounting application for like blindwrite / clonecd / nero etc without a command? like a ported daemon tools?
[06:00] <r4ge> df also pulls up some usefull infomation
[06:00] <matux> o yea, /dev/hdc7 on /home type ext3 (rw)- it is in a separate partition
[06:01] <roho> rob_p: keys are exchanged, but no login prompt.  sshd times out
[06:02] <Jordan_U_> bamzin, You could back up your /home and re-install, or possibly even delete everything on your / except /home, then mv all of the files in /home to / , re-size that partition and use it as a new /home partition
[06:03] <DrkCodeman> Jordan_U, so you think the latest version of wine will be implemented by tommorow for apt-get?
[06:03] <DrkCodeman> doh
[06:03] <Jordan_U_> DrkCodeman, Probably, but remember you have to enable the specific wine repository to get it
[06:04] <DrkCodeman> it is :)
[06:04] <rob_p> roho: I wonder if your ~/.ssh has a corrupt config file in it, or perhaps you have a corrupt key in there.  Have you tried temporarily getting rid of your ~/.ssh directory?
[06:04] <DrkCodeman> the instructions are listed on there website
[06:04] <bamzin> Jordan_U_: so, any suggestion?
[06:05] <jetscreamer> their
[06:05] <Jordan_U_> bamzin, How did you upgrade? There may be a way to fix your current install. ( also see my earlier comment if you missed it )
[06:05] <roho> rob_p: yes, i have.  still no beans.
[06:05] <lo4fer> is it bad to ping random ip's. like is that cyberagression.
[06:06] <TheCougar> my buttons on the laptop (dell e1505) don't work. the volume up and down and mute work, but the multimedia keys for play/pause , stop, next tract don't work. what might be a solutiont o this?
[06:06] <lo4fer> call dell
[06:06] <[nige] > !nvidia
[06:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:07] <bamzin> Jordan_U_: i tried to use the upgrade o
[06:07] <roho> TheCougar: you might not get that to work at all.
[06:07] <lo4fer> !make me a sandwich
[06:07] <Jordan_U_> TheCougar, Is that one of the new Ubuntu OEM Dells?
[06:07] <TheCougar> no
[06:07] <bamzin> Jordan_U_: i tried to use the upgrade manager. didnt work, than tried to update by synaptic. by the end of this all.. well, doesnt work :P i can only login in text mode
[06:07] <pablodias> hello folks. I downloaded the ubuntu 7.04 i386 cd installer and when I run that option to verify cd data it shows an error. validating teh md5sum.txt i got 9 invalid md5 hashes, but its ok to Ubuntu, because the installation starts with the root md5 hash of Ubuntu
[06:07] <TheCougar> its a dell that had xp on it when it shipped.
[06:07] <pablodias> anyonw knows what's happening?
[06:08] <vlt> need help fixing audio input on feisty... mic does not work
[06:08] <RifleEyes> im confused
[06:08] <lo4fer> ah, well in that case dell would be even less helpful than if it was one of their oem linux machines
[06:08] <RifleEyes> i installed ubuntu with dualbootness
[06:08] <RifleEyes> and when i rebooted there was no ubuntu.
[06:08] <lo4fer> rifleeyes did you install grub?
[06:09] <RifleEyes> no one told me i had to
[06:09] <roho> does it boot at all?
[06:09] <tritium> RifleEyes: it would be part of the installation process
[06:09] <Jordan_U_> TheCougar, There is *definately* a way to make it work, as long as there are media players which listen to those types of keys ( I think most do but I don't have media keys on my laptop )
[06:09] <RifleEyes> i am on 6.06
[06:09] <RifleEyes> because i cannot burn 7.04
[06:09] <RifleEyes> as a note.
[06:09] <troy-> The_8472, "PAM module like pam_mount is to unmount a user's home directory upon logging out because programs like xscreensaver will block an unmount with open file descriptors."
[06:09] <troy-> err :(
[06:09] <lo4fer> rifleeyes the windows bootloader does not recognize linuxes. but you can get it (NTLDR) to do so with a program called bootpart if i recall rightly. but anyway if you get grub on there it should give you the choice at startup.
[06:10] <RifleEyes> sweet
[06:10] <RifleEyes> i can get grub from windows then?
[06:10] <TheCougar> Jordan_U_: ah so i might want to talk to the makers of the media program i'm using and see what they can come up with
[06:10] <troy-> anyone know why pam mount cant unmount a loop FS when logging in via SSH, but can using console?
[06:10] <RifleEyes> i mean, download it in windows
[06:10] <lo4fer> grub is on your ubuntu cd
[06:11] <vlt> need help fixing audio input on feisty... mic does not work
[06:11] <RifleEyes> okay.. where..?
[06:11] <lo4fer> rifleeyes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[06:11] <Jordan_U_> TheCougar, No, you probably just need to tell X what those key codes are supposed to mean, I wouldn't ask the application developers unless it works in one app but not another
[06:11] <TaJMoX> troy : maybe ssh user doesn't have permissions for mount
[06:12] <TheCougar> oh
[06:12] <TaJMoX> rifleeyes grub doesn't have a gui interface - it's command line only.   unless you download a gui utility
[06:12] <nomasteryoda|w> vlt, sure it does... open console, type alsamixer, hit tab one time (should see capture selected near the top) now use the cursor keys to move to your mic input and press the arrow up key and/or the "m" key
[06:13] <RifleEyes> err.. okay. im not good with command line stuff. especially linux.
[06:13] <rabidweezle_> how do I check unpartitioned space?
[06:14] <Jordan_U_> TheCougar, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[06:14] <Jordan_U_> rabidweezle_, sudo fdisk -l or gparted
[06:14] <rabidweezle_> thanks

[06:14] <nomasteryoda|w> or df -Th
[06:14] <nivekc1> hey im using dapper right now and i just downloaded 7.04 what can i use to put it on a disc so i can install it?
[06:15] <nomasteryoda|w> nivekc1, in ubuntu?
[06:15] <kitsune> Anybody know how to fix the blur plugin in Feisty? Graphics Card - Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express  w/picture  http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/lastHylian/Screenshot-4.png
[06:15] <nivekc1> yupp
[06:15] <nomasteryoda|w> nivekc1, you can mount the iso
[06:15] <Jordan_U_> nivekc1, Just right click the iso and choose burn
[06:15] <nomasteryoda|w> if you don't have a cd handy... and
[06:15] <vlt> tried that... i've got built-in mic and mic port.. want to use headset mic but neither work
[06:15] <jburd> Why do my NTFS partitions stop mounting after every kernel upgrade
[06:15] <jburd> ?
[06:15] <nivekc1> can i just upgrade from 6.06 lts to 7.04 or should i clean install?
[06:15] <nomasteryoda|w> vlt, is it bluetooth?
[06:15] <RifleEyes> okay, when i do find /boot/grub/stage1, it says file not found
[06:15] <vlt> no
[06:16] <Jordan_U_> nivekc1, You have to upgrade to Edgy first, then Feisty
[06:16] <nomasteryoda|w> vlt, er... using kubuntu or ubuntu ?
[06:16] <vlt> ubuntu
[06:16] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[06:16] <pablodias> my md5 hash of ubuntu install CD is OK, but some files, acordding to md5sum are mismatching. is it right?
[06:16] <nivekc1> so i should just clean install
[06:16] <pablodias> s/acordding/according
[06:17] <nomasteryoda|w> nivekc1, if you have backedup your data... faster
[06:17] <nomasteryoda|w> it will be
[06:17] <nivekc1> so if i right click and burn it will create the disc correctly for setup? i only have one cdr left lol
[06:17] <Jordan_U_> nivekc1, That would be faster / less likely to cause problems, especially nice if you have a separate /home
[06:17] <nomasteryoda|w> ya it should ... xx fingers
[06:17] <RifleEyes> ubuntu is funny.
[06:17] <nomasteryoda|w> RifleEyes, ya it works...
[06:18] <nomasteryoda|w> vlt, i'm looking...
[06:18] <RifleEyes> not for me, haha
[06:18] <nivekc1> ubuntu is amazing! lol i have been using it for 2 days now and i shalnt go back to vista
[06:18] <nomasteryoda|w> nivekc1, cool
[06:18] <RifleEyes> wish i had your luck, nivekc1 =(
[06:18] <jburd> Bah.    First it mounts partitions to directories labeled with drive letters from Windows.  Another kernel upgrade and then it mounts them to drive labels.  Now, it can't find my partitions.  :|
[06:18] <nivekc1> why rifle what up?
[06:18] <jburd> This is breaking my links and file databases.
[06:19] <RifleEyes> everytime i try to install ubuntu, something goes wonky =)
[06:19] <tritium> RifleEyes: did you choose not to install grub when you installed?
[06:19] <nivekc1> nomasteryoda: how can i check whether my current version is 64 bit or not???
[06:19] <RifleEyes> i didnt see an option
[06:19] <tritium> RifleEyes: then you missed it
[06:19] <RifleEyes> apparently
[06:19] <jburd> Failed to access '/dev/hda6': No such file or directory   Interesting.
[06:19] <Jordan_U_> tritium, I don't think there is any such option....
[06:20] <jburd> Great.  /dev/sda6           10201       15300    40965718+   7  HPFS/NTFS    :|
[06:20] <RifleEyes> if it is there, it is eh.. kinda hidden or something
[06:20] <nomasteryoda|w> vlt, did you look here?... https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/701
[06:20] <vlt> i will
[06:20] <tritium> Jordan_U_: well, you might be right about the LiveCD.  I may be recalling a recent install from the alternate CD.
[06:21] <Jordan_U_> tritium, On the LiveCD at least there is only an option on *where* to install grub to, and that is hidden under a button labeled "advanced"
[06:21] <RifleEyes> hahaha
[06:21] <nivekc1> anyone know?
[06:21] <tritium> Jordan_U_: yeah :)
[06:21] <nomasteryoda|w> err, nivekc1 "uname -a" should tell enough
[06:21] <Jordan_U_> nivekc1, uname -r
[06:22] <nivekc1> ??
[06:22] <ToddEDM> is fedora easy to use like ubuntu?....anyone?
[06:22] <nomasteryoda|w> nivekc1, in a terminal window...
[06:22] <nomasteryoda|w> will let you know the kernel version
[06:23] <Jordan_U_> nivekc1, Open an terminal and run "uname -a", it will give some information about your OS
[06:23] <Dr_willis> ToddEDM,  i found Ubuntu much easier to use
[06:23] <nivekc1> very nice!! thank you mucho!!
[06:23] <Xenguy> ToddEDM: rpm systems just aren't as friendly as deb systems IMHO, but I guess some folks like them
[06:23] <RifleEyes> i guess i am going to reinstall
[06:23] <RifleEyes> so where is this grub option?
[06:23] <spy> ToddEDM: it's harder at the point that it has much less of things from the box
[06:23] <nivekc1> there isnt a grub option!?
[06:24] <ToddEDM> ok i will stick with ubuntu
[06:24] <spy> too many copyright restrictions
[06:24] <Jordan_U_> ToddEDM, But realize that people here are going to be just a little biased :)
[06:24] <roho> grub is probably already installed
[06:24] <RifleEyes> ever?
[06:24] <roho> once your computer boots, what happens, RifleEyes?
[06:24] <ToddEDM> yes i realize that Jorddan
[06:24] <RifleEyes> it tells me to choose either of my two XP installs
[06:24] <roho> ToddEDM: ubuntu is a bit easier
[06:24] <RifleEyes> yes, i have two.
[06:24] <roho> RifleEyes: hm.
[06:25] <Jordan_U_> RifleEyes, Do you have multiple hard drives?
[06:25] <nivekc1> one more question before i wipe her out
[06:25] <RifleEyes> yes
[06:25] <petato> hi!
[06:25] <nivekc1> does 7.04 come with firefox 2.0?
[06:25] <nomasteryoda|w> owdy petato
[06:25] <TheCougar> nivekc1: yes
[06:25] <nivekc1> sweet
[06:25] <ToddEDM> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:25] <nomasteryoda|w> nivekc1, aptitude update and aptitude upgrade
[06:25] <Jordan_U_> RifleEyes, Chances are that GRUB got installed to the hard drive you are not set to boot from
[06:25] <roho> what's with firefox crapping out on pages with java?
[06:25] <RifleEyes> hah
[06:25] <nivekc1> thanks everyone for the help and i will be back upgraded and more functional than ever!!
[06:26] <nomasteryoda|w> roho, i had that too.... made new ff profile and it works now
[06:26] <Jordan_U_> roho, Do you have the Java plugin installed?
[06:26] <nivekc1> oh btw rifle eyes did u run the disc integrity checker to make sure your disc was good?! cya guys
[06:26] <nomasteryoda|w> some extension seemed to be the cause
[06:26] <crabgrass> hew guys, how do i make an iso from a cd?
[06:26] <petato> you know chat ubuntu spanish ?
[06:26] <RifleEyes> ehh
[06:26] <RifleEyes> no
[06:26] <nomasteryoda|w> good luck nivekc1
[06:26] <petato> :(
[06:26] <RifleEyes> didnt think of it, since it was the mail-in kind
[06:26] <nivekc1> thanks bye
[06:26] <roho> Jordan_U_: i think so
[06:27] <roho> java works some times, not at other times
[06:27] <petato> is depend for the machine
[06:27] <petato> sorry for mi english :P
[06:27] <nomasteryoda|w> crabgrass, its just an image file... i would use k3b, but the command "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/isoimage.iso" works well
[06:28] <petato> i need .. practicar
[06:28] <nomasteryoda|w> petato, no problemo
[06:28] <RifleEyes> reinstall i go. wish me luck
[06:28] <ToddEDM> how can i test to see if my drivers are installed?
[06:29] <nomasteryoda|w> mi espanol es muy bad
[06:29] <ToddEDM> video drivers
[06:29] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[06:29] <Jordan_U> RifleEyes, Try booting from your other HD, you can also choose which HD ( or partition ) to install GRUB to from the installer when it tells you what partitions are going to be formatted, there is a button on the right ( I think ) labeled "advanced" that will let you choose
[06:29] <nomasteryoda|w> ToddEDM, which ones ? ... nvidia?
[06:29] <ToddEDM> yes
[06:29] <petato> one question, y like kde, but ubuntu cam whit more aplications
[06:29] <Dr_willis> play a game. :0
[06:29] <TheCougar> I just made a change to xorg.conf how would i reload that?
[06:29] <petato> i like
[06:29] <TheCougar> do i have to restart the system?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> petato,  anything ubuntu has you can install on kubuntu.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> petato,  and visa-versa. I have both uubntu+kubuntu+xubuntu on this box.
[06:30] <crabgrass> nomasteryoda|w: "dd: reading `/media/cdrom0/': Is a directory"
[06:30] <Dr_willis> wait thats 3 :)
[06:30] <dawn_chorus> TheCougar, no.  just restart X.  ctrl-alt-backspace.  I hope you made a backup xorg.conf.
[06:30] <nomasteryoda|w> crabgrass, do you have the cd in that drive?
[06:30] <crabgrass> yeah
[06:30] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[06:30] <nomasteryoda|w> so use /dev/cdrom0
[06:30] <nomasteryoda|w> instead of media
[06:30] <petato> Tanks Dr_willis
[06:30] <Frogzoo> anyone care to recommend a dns cache?
[06:31] <nully__> I don't think the video driver was installed correctly on my laptop with 7.04; VLC, mplayer, gxine do not work and crash.  How can I test/fix/install correct driver?
[06:31] <Frogzoo> for laptop use, so light, nothing hardcare
[06:31] <bullgard4> What files does the directory /etc/acpi/resume.d summarize?
[06:31] <Chillyboarder> sorry people, but does anyone know a channel for webhosting?
[06:31] <nomasteryoda|w> crabgrass, you'll have to do it using "sudo"
[06:31] <nomasteryoda|w> forgot about that
[06:31] <nomasteryoda|w> err, try a webhost like westhost's site?
[06:31] <crabgrass> nomasteryoda|w: got it, ty
[06:31] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[06:32] <Chillyboarder> well just to talk about it
[06:32] <Chillyboarder> mainly needing information on online buffering and bandwidth
[06:32] <nomasteryoda|w> did you search the channels?
[06:32] <Chillyboarder> too many lol
[06:32] <Chillyboarder> knew these were big
[06:32] <nomasteryoda|w> oh, maybe the guys at tllts.org can tell ya
[06:33] <nomasteryoda|w> they have their own irc server... oh and they are off on vacation, but someone will answer
[06:33] <Chillyboarder> k
[06:34] <feliciano> somebody use drivel???
[06:36] <mo0osah> I have been using azureus for a while, right now, i'm trying to open it but it doest do anything
[06:36] <Frogzoo> ooh pdnsd looks good, only 250k
[06:37] <Ryan__> hey everyone
[06:37] <Ryan__> wassup
[06:37] <vlt> nomasteryoda.. need to interpret output of amixer... can i post a few lines here?
[06:38] <feliciano> somebody use drivel???
[06:38] <TheCougar> is keytouch intergraded into ubuntu?
[06:38] <nomasteryoda|w> vlt, how about pastebin?
[06:38] <nomasteryoda|w> !pastebin
[06:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:38] <naknak987> can someone tell me how to install libdvdcss2 or newer with feisty
[06:39] <Ryan__> Im trying to listen to yahoo music, but the sound doesn't work, although the sound works for everything else, anyone know what;s wrong?
[06:39] <Ryan__> also the page doesnt all load correctly
[06:39] <vlt> where is pastebin?
[06:39] <nomasteryoda|w> !restricted > naknak987
[06:39] <nomasteryoda|w>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:39] <naknak987> Whats that mean
[06:39] <nomasteryoda|w> !restricted | naknak987
[06:39] <ubotu> naknak987: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:39] <Ryan__> is there a shockwave player plug in for ubuntu?
[06:40] <nomasteryoda|w> naknak987, the directions are there on those pages...
[06:40] <crdlb> Ryan__, no, nothing native
[06:40] <Ryan__> ahhh
[06:40] <Ryan__> so I cant play yahoo music?
[06:40] <nomasteryoda|w> evil adobe
[06:40] <naknak987> ubotu: I tryed all those, they did not work for me.
[06:40] <crdlb> Ryan__, if that's shockwave (not flash)
[06:40] <nomasteryoda|w> Ryan__, there are tons more alternative radio sites...
[06:40] <nomasteryoda|w> try streamtuner
[06:41] <TaJMoX> i love that program
[06:41] <Ryan__> does yahoo music work for u guys?
[06:41] <TaJMoX> leme check
[06:41] <TaJMoX> you mean in streamtuner?
[06:41] <Ryan__> thx
[06:41] <nomasteryoda|w> yup
[06:41] <Ryan__> nah like from its wensite
[06:41] <Ryan__> website
[06:41] <nomasteryoda|w> right, i got that
[06:42] <bullgard4> naknak987: For me it was very simple: I asked Synaptic to install it, and Synaptic did. Do you have the proper repository?
[06:42] <vlt> here's amixer output  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25806/
[06:42] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[06:42] <naknak987> what do you do with !restricted, If you type it in the terminal then it gives me a error saying the event wasn't found.
[06:42] <crdlb> naknak987, it was a command to the channel bot (ubotu)
[06:42] <crdlb> !restricted
[06:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:43] <naknak987> !restricted
[06:43] <Ryan__> canu guys tell me some cool stuff that u can do on linux that u cant on windows?
[06:43] <mrynit> is /dev/sde a normal location/name for a usb flash drive
[06:44] <dmb> in a bash script, im making a wrapper script, how would i pass the remaining parameters to the program?
[06:44] <naknak987> !codecs
[06:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> vlt, look at line 160
[06:44] <Ryan__> I know there;s aircrack
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> then 164 and 165... they are off
[06:44] <nymphox> !sound
[06:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer).  I'm just going to use windows.
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> an Intel will do
[06:45] <TaJMoX> Ryan__ no just anything that supports 3D
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> or nvidia
[06:46] <Ryan__> ok
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | naknak987
[06:46] <ubotu> naknak987: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:46] <TaJMoX> naknak987 yeah give up - that's what winners do
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> and some newer ati
[06:46] <Dr_willis> naknak987,  its a free country. do what you like.
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> TaJMoX, amen
[06:46] <TaJMoX> I <3 Ubuntu
[06:46] <Dr_willis> I though the video player asked/installed the codecs now for you?
[06:46] <oscar307> hey all
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_willis, it does
[06:47] <TaJMoX> Dr_willis no they're just available in the repos now
[06:47] <Ryan__> is there any special software that is only for linux, like OSX?
[06:47] <oscar307> anyone has experience with vmware server on ubuntu
[06:47] <vlt> should line 160 read capture 1?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> oscar307,  yes.. :) it works..  I recall needing to tweak somthing a few weeks back. It may be fixed by now.
[06:48] <dawn_chorus> Ryan__, i'm not sure I understand what you mean.  you mean, Linux only applications?
[06:48] <nomasteryoda|w> like thousands of programs Ryan__ ... there are alternatives to most normal stuff you do on windows, and many special things that linux distros just excel at
[06:48] <Ryan__> pro software
[06:48] <Ryan__> pro music pro art
[06:48] <Ryan__> pro science
[06:49] <dawn_chorus> it's all pro.  :D
[06:49] <Ryan__> something that only linux has
[06:49] <Ryan__> professional science apps
[06:49] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_willis, comes before science... =D
[06:49] <oscar307> I just finished installing the server edition of dapper
[06:49] <Frogzoo> Ryan__: such as?
[06:49] <nomasteryoda|w> Ryan__, there aretons in the repos
[06:49] <Dr_willis> if the software is GPl'd theres nothing that that stops people from porting it over to windows.
[06:49] <Ryan__> anything that makes linux stand out as cool
[06:49] <uberushaximus> Bai everyone [/amsg]
[06:49] <nomasteryoda|w> oh, trolls?
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Linux is cool beause of its Flexability.
[06:49] <Ryan__> with cool programs and such that are free etc
[06:49] <dawn_chorus> and freedom.
[06:49] <TaJMoX> And Stability and Performance
[06:49] <Ryan__> ok
[06:50] <nomasteryoda|w> the space station would not be in the predicament its in if they had Linux on their systems
[06:50] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[06:50] <Dr_willis> Flexifredomstbilpreformace!
[06:50] <Frogzoo> Linus is cool cos if someone can make it better, they do
[06:50] <dawn_chorus> exactly.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> nomasteryoda|w, ? oh - i aint seen that bit of news yet. :0
[06:50] <nomasteryoda|w> windows copied lots of the coolness of kde ...
[06:50] <Ryan__> which do u guys prefer]
[06:50] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_willis, they had the computers go down... supposedly russian os
[06:50] <Ryan__> gnome or KDE?
[06:51] <TaJMoX> Ryan__ Every newbie who see's my computer thinks its cool because of the eyecandy
[06:51] <nomasteryoda|w> Ryan__, choice is what its about...
[06:51] <TaJMoX> Ryan__ you'll have to decide that by yourself.
[06:51] <Ryan__> ok lets talk usability
[06:51] <Ryan__> useability
[06:51] <TaJMoX> Ryan__ maybe #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:51] <nomasteryoda|w> TaJMoX, yes
[06:51] <nomasteryoda|w> thanks
[06:51] <Dr_willis> nomasteryoda,  oh? a pirated Windows95 on the station? :)
[06:51] <TaJMoX> this is a support chan
[06:51] <Frogzoo> Ryan__: gnome used to be slow, the latest releases have taken out the slack & now it's really good
[06:51] <Ryan__> Im looking for programs that are more interesting
[06:51] <Dr_willis> Linux is a "use what you like"
[06:52] <oscar307> do u know if its possible to install vmserver and vmplayer on the same installation
[06:52] <brad016> how do you install wine?
[06:52] <Frogzoo> yeah, I agree this is OT
[06:52] <Ryan__> I tried KDE for opensuse and it was ugly and disgusting
[06:52] <Dr_willis> !wine
[06:52] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:52] <Floodge> I enabled the nvidia driver, and now the ui doesnt want to boot
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Ryan__,  KDE is very themeable.
[06:52] <Ryan__> horrible layout
[06:52] <TaJMoX> brad016 : sudo apt-get install wine
[06:52] <Frogzoo> !wine | brad016 be sure to setup the budgetdedicated repo, the ubuntu repo wine is way old:
[06:52] <ubotu> brad016 be sure to setup the budgetdedicated repo, the ubuntu repo wine is way old:: please see above
[06:52] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_willis, trolls ... he's trolling... and should troll off to ubuntu-offtopic
[06:53] <TaJMoX> Floodge : edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the Driver 'nvidia' to nv
[06:53] <Ryan__> it looked like crap I checked the themes they all have this cheap defined look to them
[06:53] <DrkCodeman> at this rate of compilation errors im better off waiting for the package to be released
[06:53] <Ryan__> whoa people
[06:53] <Dr_willis> Ryan__,  whatever.. bye.
[06:53] <Ryan__> so I take it people dont talk here?
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> Ryan__, that is what Beryl and Compiz are for.... to snaz it up..
[06:53] <cmo-0> hi, I've installed ubuntu server 7.04 on a new server. everything went smothly until the end of the setup where i was setting up pound reverse proxy. I was trying to add my user to another group throught 'usermod -G'  but by mistake now the user is not in the admin group. and sudo does not work properly any more? any hints
[06:53] <TaJMoX> ryan__ #ubuntu-offtopic    this is a support channel
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> we work here
[06:53] <Ryan__> oh ok
[06:53] <eNons3nse> k3b is telling me it can't find the libmad file to decode mp3s.  what package is that in?  i've tried a couple and it didn't work.
[06:53] <brad016> budgetdedicated repo
[06:54] <Ryan__> how do I get to that channel?
[06:54] <Frogzoo> Ryan__: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:54] <RoC_MM> cmo-0, boot into recovery mode...it's a boot option if you hit "ESCAPE" on bootup
[06:54] <cmo-0> then
[06:54] <Talaman72> hey, i jacked up my panel and can't seem to edit it now as they are not showing up on the screen
[06:54] <DrkCodeman> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext
[06:54] <DrkCodeman> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[06:54] <Floodge> Taj
[06:54] <DrkCodeman> blah
[06:55] <Frogzoo> cmo-0: boot recovery mode, 'sudo adduser USER admin'
[06:55] <nomasteryoda|w> Talaman72, in kubuntu?
[06:55] <Floodge> Can you tell me how to do that in the terminal?
[06:55] <brad016> what is budgetdedicated repo (Talking about ine)
[06:55] <brad016> wine
[06:55] <Talaman72> nomasteryoda|w: gnome
[06:55] <TaJMoX> enons3nse : google : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21044
[06:55] <DrkCodeman> brad016, im trying to get wine atm the latest w/out any luck
[06:55] <nomasteryoda|w> Talaman72, killall -9 gnome-panel should restart it
[06:55] <Frogzoo> brad016: if you read the docs first, it will be clear
[06:55] <brad016> okay
[06:55] <DrkCodeman> x64 compiler is crap :(
[06:56] <Frogzoo> !wine | DrkCodeman use the budgetdedicated repo to install:
[06:56] <ubotu> DrkCodeman use the budgetdedicated repo to install:: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:56] <bullgard4> English help wanted: What is the title line of the window that appears when you choose the menu item Gnome main menu System > Settings >Audio?
[06:56] <Talaman72> [nomasteryoda|w] : is that going to be any different than rebooting?
[06:56] <TaJMoX> Floodge : sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf    scroll down towards the bottom in Section Device ... you'll see Driver   change it to nv
[06:56] <nomasteryoda|w> Talaman72, yes
[06:56] <brad016> which one do i read
[06:56] <nomasteryoda|w> no reboot... desktop will still be up
[06:56] <nomasteryoda|w> simple to try
[06:56] <TaJMoX> DrkCodeman : http://www.winehq.com
[06:56] <DrkCodeman> TaJMoX, that doesnt help lol im there
[06:56] <DrkCodeman> and the latest sources arent working because of distro's compiler here
[06:57] <freud5> I'm having no end of problems getting my TV-out to work.  Anyone have a working xorg.conf for TV out on an Intel graphics card (mobile)?
[06:57] <TaJMoX> DrkCodeman : there's no 64bit deb ?
[06:57] <DrkCodeman> not for the latest
[06:57] <Frogzoo> DrkCodeman: I have wine 0.9.38 here - after 'sudo apt-get install wine' - just needs the right repo
[06:57] <DrkCodeman> atm they only have the sources released for the latest
[06:57] <DrkCodeman> so do i
[06:57] <UlfJack> is there a way to install the latest version with an old (6.06) live cd?
[06:57] <DrkCodeman> but it is 39
[06:57] <DrkCodeman> try playing source with 38
[06:58] <freud5> no dice on the crappy intel graphics adapter?
[06:58] <freud5> (hopes are not up)
[06:58] <Frogzoo> DrkCodeman: 38 is the best you'll do without building it yourself
[06:58] <Talaman72> gnome-panel: no process killed
[06:58] <Talaman72>   kill -9 gnome-panel
[06:58] <Talaman72> bash: kill: gnome-panel: arguments must be process or job IDs
[06:58] <nomasteryoda|w> UlfJack, if you have it installed already, you can upgrade
[06:58] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[06:58] <Frogzoo> DrkCodeman: or you could just wait a couple days - they usually update pretty quick
[06:59] <nomasteryoda|w> hang on Talaman72
[06:59] <DrkCodeman> i hope so :(
[06:59] <UlfJack> would have to upgrade via 6.10 though
[06:59] <DrkCodeman> because this compiler here isnt working for crap
[06:59] <nomasteryoda|w> Talaman72, the command is "killall -9 gnome-panel"
[06:59] <nomasteryoda|w> UlfJack, true
[06:59] <Frogzoo> DrkCodeman: what's the deal with 39vs 38?
[06:59] <brad016> how do you install wine 0.9.39
[06:59] <DrkCodeman> counter-strike source doesnt function
[06:59] <Floodge> whats the command to save and exit?
[06:59] <Floodge> @_@
[07:00] <nomasteryoda|w> Floodge, save what?
[07:00] <DrkCodeman> brad016, you cant with this crappy compiler for ubuntu
[07:00] <Floodge> the xorg.conf
[07:00] <UlfJack> maybe i can somehow debootstrap into 7.04?
[07:00] <nomasteryoda|w> depends on editor...
[07:00] <Dr_willis> what editor? :)
[07:00] <brad016> no like download unpack and install
[07:00] <Floodge> terminal ;o
[07:00] <brad016> the steps
[07:00] <nomasteryoda|w> nano = Ctrl+X +Y +enter
[07:00] <DrkCodeman> bunzip2 filename
[07:00] <Frogzoo> DrkCodeman: I believe wine routinely builds with gcc, that's not the issue
[07:00] <DrkCodeman> then tar xf filename
[07:01] <DrkCodeman> then sudo ./configure
[07:01] <TaJMoX> floodge : the ^ character means CTRL
[07:01] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[07:01] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[07:01] <Floodge> No wonder
[07:01] <Dr_willis> I like the 'unp' command. because im lazy
[07:01] <Floodge> thanks
[07:01] <RoC_MM> unp is A++++++++++
[07:01] <brad016> how do you install wine 0.9.39
[07:01] <Frogzoo> brad016: atm, you don't
[07:02] <brad016> c'mon
[07:02] <brad016> how
[07:02] <brad016> please
[07:02] <brad016> I just want to drown my sorrow in windows apps in linux
[07:02] <zero> ./help
[07:02] <zero> halo
[07:02] <bullgard4> What files does the directory /etc/acpi/resume.d summarize?
[07:02] <Frogzoo> why do people need wine 39 not 38 ?
[07:03] <brad016> cause it hase tons of fix's
[07:03] <Talaman72> killall does not work
[07:03] <brad016> how do you install wine 0.939
[07:03] <brad016> ???
[07:04] <Talaman72> also, when i restart the gnome-panel it craps out again...i need to EDIT it before i restart it
[07:04] <Talaman72> killall gives me this : gnome-panel: no process killed
[07:05] <Talaman72> probably because it has already CRASHED
[07:07] <dawn_chorus> Talaman72, how did you change the panel to make it behave this way?
[07:08] <Frogzoo> brad016: you wait for the maintainers of the budgetdedicated repo to update
[07:08] <bullgard4> English help wanted: What is the title line of the window that appears when you choose the menu item Gnome main menu System > Settings > Audio?
[07:09] <cxlyx> hi~could anybody tell me how to make a connection to a windows vpn server
[07:09] <Talaman72> [dawn_chorus] : um, yes, i added xpenguin to it like googly eyes
[07:09] <dawn_chorus> Talaman72, that exact same thing happened to me!
[07:09] <Talaman72> which is why i am TRYING to fix it
[07:09] <RoC_MM> bullgard4, do you mean System>Settings>Sound?
[07:09] <Talaman72> i.e. edit it
[07:09] <dawn_chorus> Talaman72, just uninstall xpenguins.
[07:10] <RoC_MM> That window says "Sound Preferences" bullgard4
[07:10] <Talaman72> [dawn_chorus] : um, how?
[07:10] <dawn_chorus> Talaman72, you're at a shell?
[07:10] <bullgard4> RoC_MM: Probably yes. As I do not own an English Ubuntu 7.04, I cannot tell you exactly.
[07:11] <dawn_chorus> Talaman72, you use apt-get or aptitude normally?
[07:11] <RoC_MM> OK, it's as I said bullgard4
[07:11] <bullgard4> RoC_MM: Thank you very much.
[07:11] <Talaman72> ]
[07:11] <dawn_chorus> Talaman72, sudo aptitude remove xpenguins
[07:12] <RoC_MM> bullgard4, sorry nobody helped you earlier, I saw your message repeat...the english version calls it "Sound" not audio.
[07:12] <Talaman72> i use the gui one
[07:12] <RifleEyes> ubuntu =(
[07:12] <Talaman72> sym something or other
[07:12] <RifleEyes> still does not work. after another install.
[07:12] <bullgard4> RoC_MM: Yes, I see. Thank you.
[07:13] <Talaman72> [dawn_chorus] : sptitude seems to be working
[07:13] <DtG> www.bamfblog.com
[07:14] <RifleEyes> okay really, is it logical that it is somehow my hardware is messing up this install?
[07:14] <crabgrass> how can i set the volume label with mkisofs
[07:14] <Jordan_U> RifleEyes, Still having problems with GRUB?
[07:14] <koruptah> Erm, I've got a question about removing a package that i installed
[07:14] <RifleEyes> yes.
[07:14] <dawn_chorus> koruptah, what's your question.
[07:15] <jessie_> koruptah, yeah go on man.
[07:15] <brad016> how do you update to wine 0.9.39 from 0.9.33
[07:15] <brad016> in Fiesty Fawn
[07:15] <Jordan_U> RifleEyes, Did you try booting from your other drives or making sure that grub is installed on the MBR of the drive that is currently set to boot?
[07:15] <jessie_> brad016, use the wine repositories at winehq.com
[07:15] <RifleEyes> well
[07:15] <brad016> you mean the binary's
[07:15] <TheCougar> I have a laptop that doesn't have the ability to boot from cd. is there a floppy disk i can download that will allow me to boot from cd using it?
[07:15] <koruptah> I installed "freepops" and it worked just fine, but then I also installed the freepops-updater-fltk package..
[07:15] <dawn_chorus> Talaman72, you got your panels?
[07:16] <jessie_> brad016, be sure to uninstall first.
[07:16] <zero> ooooo
[07:16] <Talaman72> [dawn_chorus] : thanks, panel is now restarted and staying
[07:16] <binMonkey> hi.  does anyone have any ideas about speeding up wireless in fiesty?  i've searched the forums but nothing's helped.
[07:16] <brad016> I have to compile the binary's?
[07:16] <RifleEyes> i just put in a new 160, with xp installs on each. and i am currently on the install that is running from the old hard drive
[07:16] <RifleEyes> but i installed it to the new one
[07:16] <jessie_> brad016, no, they have repositories for ubuntu and the like. (wine only, bu hay, its always up to date)
[07:16] <koruptah> now when i try to run synaptic i get an error message (posting message in a sec)
[07:16] <dawn_chorus> Talaman72, cool.  xpenguins did the same to me, man.  it means you're cool.
[07:17] <RifleEyes> so i dont know exactly what you mean by eh.. booting from the other drive
[07:17] <RifleEyes> that'd still be windows
[07:17] <jessie_> brad016, they have .debs for you and i.
[07:17] <brad016> wait, I installed wine from the ubuntu repo and someone and i did system update and It wasn;t in the list
[07:17] <Jordan_U> RifleEyes, Just because Ubuntu was installed to a particular drive does not necessarily mean that ubuntu's bootloader, GRUB, was installed to the same drive
[07:17] <RifleEyes> should've been.
[07:17] <jessie_> brad016, yes, ubuntu's repo doesn't have the updated one.
[07:18] <jessie_> add the wine one to it.
[07:18] <brad016> okay
[07:18] <koruptah> error message is: The package freepops-updater-fltk needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[07:18] <Jordan_U> brad016, You can use wine's repository from: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[07:18] <Talaman72> brb
[07:18] <rabidweezle_> alright all, anyone here familier with DDO software?
[07:18] <jessie_> koruptah, try to do sudo apt-get uninstall freepops-updater-fltk
[07:19] <binMonkey> hi.  is there a channel for wireless questions?
[07:19] <rabidweezle_> or installing hard drives bigger than what your bios sees?
[07:19] <jessie_> koruptah, the do sudo apt-get install freepops-updater-fltk
[07:19] <rabidweezle_> !DDO
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ddo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <brad016> thanks Jordan_u
[07:19] <koruptah> I used GDebi to install the package that I d/led from the freepops site....
[07:19] <koruptah> jessie_ ok
[07:19] <brad016> if your last name is batty then ur hot
[07:20] <brad016> wait i did that already
[07:20] <jessie_> brad016, whys that?
[07:20] <dawn_chorus> RifleEyes, are you getting a GRUB error?
[07:20] <brad016> no there sthis girl in my class in fresno
[07:20] <RifleEyes> im not even getting grub.
[07:20] <Jordan_U> brad016, Then run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[07:20] <koruptah> jessie_ I got anouther error message: E: The package freepops-updater-fltk needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[07:20] <dawn_chorus> RifleEyes, str8 to windows?
[07:20] <brad016> okay
[07:20] <RifleEyes> kind of, yeah
[07:21] <dawn_chorus> RifleEyes, kind of?
[07:21] <RifleEyes> straight to the prompt that asks me which windows install to choose
[07:21] <amigamia> hi
[07:21] <Jordan_U> RifleEyes, GRUB is required to run Ubuntu, it is like ntldr for windows
[07:21] <RifleEyes> i have two instances of xp
[07:21] <jessie_> brad016, you did? well on the bottom of the winehq page there is a thing that tells you what to do (the ubuntu download page)
[07:21] <amigamia> does ubuntu now support wireless usb sticks?
[07:21] <koruptah> jessie_ like i said I used GDebi to install it
[07:21] <PriceChild> amigamia, depends waht chipset
[07:21] <amigamia> is ndiwrapper just embedded in ubuntu now?
[07:21] <Jordan_U> RifleEyes, Have you tried booting from your other drive?
[07:21] <amigamia> i just dont understand that pricechild...
[07:21] <PriceChild> amigamia, mine has always worked since dapper or so....
[07:21] <jessie_> koruptah, hmm... try sudo apt-get --fix-missing (i think)
[07:21] <amigamia> i just dont understand why not.
[07:21] <dawn_chorus> i think I saw a howto to get ntdlr to boot linux.
[07:21] <premier_> has anyone tried reiser or have any opinions on it?
[07:21] <RifleEyes> i havent
[07:21] <PriceChild> amigamia, you can't put all wireless cards in one pile
[07:21] <amigamia> what one do you have pricechild?
[07:21] <RifleEyes> because im not sure how
[07:21] <koruptah> jessie_ ok
[07:21] <PriceChild> amigamia, i have a ralink 2500
[07:21] <brad016> okay its downloading, is that 0.9.39, and will it show in the aplications dropdown menu
[07:22] <amigamia> that is a usb thingy?
[07:22] <amigamia> pricechild?
[07:22] <Strange_Wulf> whoa... lotta people in here
[07:22] <Strange_Wulf> Uh, can I get some help, please?
[07:22] <PriceChild> Strange_Wulf, ask your question
[07:22] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, shoot.
[07:22] <koruptah> jessie_ nope that didn't work
[07:22] <PriceChild> amigamia, yes
[07:22] <Jordan_U> RifleEyes, Set it as the first drive in the boot priority in your boot settings, or press f8 ( it might be a different key depending on your specific BIOS ) at boot for a one time menu
[07:22] <amigamia> seems to me if you want to be all the way there should be a prober and it should say "woah" it's a whatever usb stick and should just work. it seems to me that Seveas should have programmed this in like 8 seconds ;)
[07:23] <jessie_> well, ive got nothing. try searching google for it. you'll be amazed.
[07:23] <Strange_Wulf> I installed Ubuntu on my laptop just tonight, and I'm having trouble with my wireless...
[07:23] <RifleEyes> i've tried doing that in the boot settings, i think
[07:23] <brad016> jordan, that installed 0.9.38
[07:23] <RifleEyes> i guess i shall try again
[07:23] <Strange_Wulf> Also, I don't seem to have the "Networking" option in my menus for some reason.
[07:23] <Jordan_U> Strange_Wulf, Do you know what chipset your wireless card is?
[07:23] <dawn_chorus> Jordan_U, it's written with Gentoo in mind, but http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Boot_from_Windows_Bootloader_%28NTLDR%29_and_why
[07:23] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, your sure you have admin privledges?
[07:23] <Strange_Wulf> Not really.
[07:24] <Makegho> I'm not surprised you have problems if you have linux and a laptop :)
[07:24] <Strange_Wulf> Not sure about admin privileges either... =P had to change that for a folder so I could put files into it...
[07:24] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, can you sudo something, say "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[07:24] <Strange_Wulf> .......sudo?
[07:25] <koruptah> ugh, ok well i have been searching google and the ubuntu site, but i'll keep trying & see what i can find...  thanks though..
[07:25] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, yes its how to be root for a command.
[07:25] <Strange_Wulf> I think I may as well just claim ignorance here... =P
[07:25] <Jordan_U> dawn_chorus, I know of that, did you mean to send that to RifleEyes ?
[07:25] <binMonkey> can anyone help with wireless?
[07:25] <dawn_chorus> Jordan_U, oh yeah. sry
[07:25] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, also, do "lspci"
[07:25] <nomasteryoda|w> binMonkey, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:25] <rabidweezle_> need some help here making a partition grow*
[07:26] <Strange_Wulf> *cough* I seem to have given you all the mistaken impression that I am computer literate...
[07:26] <amigamia> does Seveas still work here?
[07:26] <binMonkey> nomasteryoda|w: ubuntu for now.
[07:26] <Strange_Wulf> Let's start over.  Assume I have no idea how to do *anything*. =P
[07:26] <binMonkey> nomasteryoda|w: thanks.
[07:26] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, go to the terminal, Apps -> Accesories.
[07:26] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, *Terminal
[07:26] <Strange_Wulf> Terminal's open.
[07:27] <jessie_> ok, now do "sudo lspci"
[07:27] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, copy inside the quotes.
[07:27] <nomasteryoda|w> binMonkey, look to see if you have network-manager-gnome installed
[07:27] <Strange_Wulf> it asked for a password
[07:27] <Jordan_U> jessie_, sudo is not required for lspci
[07:27] <jessie_> Jordan_U, I know, but it'll check both problems at once.
[07:28] <Jordan_U> jessie_, :)
[07:28] <jessie_> Jordan_U, it'll see if he has admin privledges and check his config
[07:28] <binMonkey> nomasteryoda|w: not installed.  i took that out after reading a forum post.  i use wifi-radar.
[07:28] <Strange_Wulf> should I just enter the password for my account?
[07:28] <Didaskal0s> Anyone know of a quality shell service provider?
[07:28] <Jordan_U> Strange_Wulf, Yes
[07:28] <Strange_Wulf> okay
[07:28] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, yip
[07:28] <marfeath> How do I get a ralink rt2500 to work with wpa in feisty?
[07:28] <nomasteryoda|w> binMonkey, aptitude install network-manager-gnome
[07:29] <UlfJack> i've just started a debootstrap install of feisty from a 6.10 live cd
[07:29] <dawn_chorus> right on UlfJack
[07:29] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, post the results here.
[07:29] <meisam> #eclipse
[07:29] <Strange_Wulf> *sigh* I need to stop making people assume things...
[07:29] <UlfJack> let's see how it works
[07:29] <strabes> is it possible to combine a stereo track into one mono track in audacity?
[07:30] <Strange_Wulf> I'm on my desktop here, with my laptop beside me.  Laptop has *no* internet access.
[07:30] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, copy and paste everything from the terminal here.
[07:30] <richiefrich> strabes: sure
[07:30] <Strange_Wulf> I can't!
[07:30] <Jordan_U> binMonkey, Just so you know, network-manager and wifi-radar cannot control the same interface at the same time
[07:30] <strabes> richiefrich: how?
[07:30] <Strange_Wulf> I'm not on the laptop!
[07:30] <binMonkey> nomasteryoda|w: installing it now.  will it help with speed.  fiesty speed is awful.
[07:30] <dawn_chorus> UlfJack, which howto you using?
[07:30] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, p.s. Ctrl+C doesn't work. you must right click
[07:30] <meisam> hi guys, any body knows how i can get the eclipse as a full project with all plugins installed ?
[07:30] <richiefrich> strabes: why not > cat file file > newfile
[07:30] <richiefrich> strabes: then it is combined
[07:30] <UlfJack> dawn_chorus: there's a howto? where? :-D
[07:30] <nomasteryoda|w> binMonkey, what card do you have ?
[07:30] <Strange_Wulf> jessie_: for the last time... I'm not on the laptop!
[07:31] <binMonkey> nomasteryoda|w:broadcom 4318 using ndiswrapper.
[07:31] <dawn_chorus> do it then brotha.
[07:31] <strabes> richiefrich: no i mean I have a song that is encoded stereo. I want to convert it to mono to save space for a ringtone
[07:31] <Strange_Wulf> Copy and paste won't do me any good since the results are not on *this* computer. =P
[07:31] <jessie_> oh. OK. i see. well. not much i can do for you if you don't know the card.
[07:31] <meisam> anybody knows about eclipse here ?
[07:31] <richiefrich> eww ndiswrapper!
[07:31] <richiefrich> meisam: #eclipse
[07:31] <nomasteryoda|w> ah, hmmm i had good speed  with ndiswrapper vs the firmware method
[07:31] <Jordan_U> binMonkey, I would recommend not using broadcom cards with NDISwrapper
[07:31] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf,, i can give you one resource. http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net
[07:31] <Strange_Wulf> ...what's a PCI bridge?
[07:31] <richiefrich> strabes: then save it as mono
[07:31] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, this will be what you need.
[07:32] <nomasteryoda|w> binMonkey, in my laptops i replaced the wifi with Intel 2915 a/b/g cards
[07:32] <nomasteryoda|w> internal... work so well
[07:32] <strabes> richiefrich: oh i thought i had to do something prior to that
[07:32] <binMonkey> Jordan_U: isn't ndis faster?
[07:32] <nomasteryoda|w> 29$
[07:32] <brina> question: will a PCI hardware modem work on Ubuntu???\
[07:32] <GeekChick|> I seem to overwrote my PATH environment variable in a failed install of Sun Studio 12. Can anyone give me the default Ubuntu PATH to restore it? Bash cant even find the ls command.
[07:32] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, also, i dont know what one is. my guess is its some sort of pci device, ie pci slot.
[07:32] <Jordan_U> binMonkey, There are open source drivers available that I believe are better than NDIS on most cards as of Feisty
[07:32] <UlfJack> strabes: there seems to be a 'stereo to mono' button under 'Tracks'
[07:32] <binMonkey> nomasteryoda|w: is that an easy thing to do?  easy as in installing ram easy?
[07:33] <nomasteryoda|w> yes
[07:33] <binMonkey> Jordan_U: where can i find those drivers?
[07:33] <nomasteryoda|w> what model laptop?
[07:33] <Frogzoo> brina: only if you can get a driver, so it's a definite maybe
[07:33] <Frogzoo> !linmodem | brina
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linmodem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <Frogzoo> brina: google linmodem
[07:33] <nomasteryoda|w> binMonkey, just a second.
[07:33] <jessie_> nomasteryoda|w, how much were they?
[07:34] <strabes> UlfJack: where is "tracks"
[07:34] <Strange_Wulf> Here we are... found Ethernet... would that be it?
[07:34] <UlfJack> debootstrap has finished, installing xubuntu-desktop now
[07:34] <binMonkey> nomasteryoda|w: it's a compaq presario v2000.  it's my first laptop.  i got it cheap!
[07:34] <richiefrich> strabes: http://www.mrbass.org/ringtones/
[07:34] <UlfJack> strabes: in the menu?
[07:34] <Strange_Wulf> No, wait... it's the Network controller...
[07:34] <Jordan_U> binMonkey, The funny thing is that you already have them :) You just need the *firmware* for the card ( which broadcom won't let Ubuntu distribute ), you can get the firmware on Feisty by installing the package bcm43xx-fwcutter
[07:34] <brina> Frogzoo, that site is for soft modems, they require complicated drivers, I'm wondering about a hardware modem
[07:34] <RifleEyes> i think to boot from the other drive i'd have to mess with master/slave stuff, Jordan_U
[07:35] <richiefrich> strabes: just use the Audacity partr
[07:35] <binMonkey> Jordan_U: ok.  i'll try that.  is there any config needed with fwcutter?
[07:35] <jessie_> Strange_Wulf, sorry, if you dont have the laptop near by then i seriously cant help out.
[07:35] <Frogzoo> brina: if it's a pci card, it's a software modem
[07:35] <strabes> UlfJack: all i have are file, edit, view, project, generate, effect, analyze, help
[07:35] <strabes> richiefrich: what do you mean?
[07:35] <Akuma_> what will i have trouble with if i go for the x64 version?
[07:35] <Strange_Wulf> I do have it nearby. =P Didn't I say that?
[07:35] <nomasteryoda|w> binMonkey, http://tinyurl.com/yo9zyt
[07:35] <brina> Frogzoo, it's advertised as a hardware modem
[07:35] <Jordan_U> binMonkey, Nope, just to disable whatever you might have done to install NDIS wrapper
[07:35] <strabes> richiefrich: OH
[07:35] <UlfJack> try Project then
[07:35] <richiefrich> strabes: did you loook at the link
[07:35] <Strange_Wulf> I've got a Broadcom wireless.
[07:35] <UlfJack> it's called Tracks here
[07:36] <UlfJack> different version apparently
[07:36] <GeekChick|> I seem to overwrote my PATH environment variable in a failed install of Sun Studio 12. Can anyone give me the default Ubuntu PATH to restore it? Bash cant even find the ls command.
[07:36] <strabes> richiefrich: yeah sorry
[07:36] <Frogzoo> brina: was it advertised as supported by linux?
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Strange_Wulf, Have you tried installing bcm43xx-fwcutter if you are using Feisty ?
[07:36] <brina> \no
[07:36] <richiefrich> Strange_Wulf then use http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[07:36] <nomasteryoda|w> binMonkey, just open one door on back or remove keyboard, insert chip .. just like a ram chip
[07:36] <Hoxzer> Can somebody note me a program that can adjust subtitles with end subtitle and start subtitle?
[07:37] <nomasteryoda|w> oh, remove the broadcome chip
[07:37] <Strange_Wulf> oh crap... looks like this card doesn't play well with Ubuntu... =P
[07:37] <nomasteryoda|w> put on ebay or break in half... and send back to them
[07:37] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[07:37] <richiefrich> Strange_Wulf: np
[07:37] <richiefrich> err
[07:37] <richiefrich> strabes: np
[07:37] <trippy> leave
[07:37] <richiefrich> leave?
[07:37] <Frogzoo> brina: if it's a pci modem, it needs a driver - external modems are serial so only need a serial/usb driver
[07:38] <nomasteryoda|w> '/quit?
[07:38] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[07:38] <richiefrich>  /close
[07:38] <richiefrich>  /part
[07:38] <richiefrich> ?
[07:38] <RifleEyes> thanks for your help
[07:38] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[07:38] <jessie_> k, see you all later. im hittin the hay.
[07:38] <rabidweezle_> !kernel
[07:38] <Jordan_U> RifleEyes, I would back up your MBR ( just in case ) and install GRUB to the drive you are booting from then
[07:38] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:38] <rabidweezle_> what's the current kernel for feisty?
[07:38] <nomasteryoda|w> CyberMad, just don't go CyberPostal on us here.... like the nic
[07:38] <GeekChick|> !path
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about path - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <brina> thanks, Frogzoo
[07:38] <GeekChick|> !env
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about env - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <GeekChick|> !environment
[07:39] <jessie_> rabidweezle_, do uname -r
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about environment - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <jessie_> rabidweezle_, itll tell you.
[07:39] <dawn_chorus> RabidWeezle, <IP_ADDRESS>, last time i checked.
[07:39] <CyberMad> how to disable user can get root password by do this command sudo -i  (their password), i don't user can get root password use their default password
[07:39] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: what do you need?
[07:39] <GeekChick|> richiefrich, I seem to overwrote my PATH environment variable in a failed install of Sun Studio 12. Can anyone give me the default Ubuntu PATH to restore it? Bash cant even find the ls command.
[07:39] <Frogzoo> rabidweezle_: 2.6.20-16-generic
[07:39] <diclophis> hello all, how do i find out what packages are available on fiesty fawn, if i only have edge installed?
[07:39] <Frogzoo> !packages
[07:39] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[07:39] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: lol put it in your ~/.bashrc
[07:39] <GeekChick|> richiefrich, i know i can do /bin/ls, but i need the default PATHs
[07:40] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: or better yet
[07:40] <binMonkey> Jordan_U: thanks.  i'm going to try that now.
[07:40] <Jordan_U> CyberMad, System-Administration-Users and Groups, remove their admin privileges
[07:40] <GeekChick|> richiefrich, yah but I think the botched install overwrote them all.
[07:40] <UlfJack> export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[07:40] <CyberMad> thanks
[07:40] <UlfJack> try this one
[07:40] <Appakot> can someone help me with a major problem please?
[07:40] <binMonkey> nomasteryoda|w: the tinyurl address is not working.  what was it about and i'll google it?
[07:40] <nomasteryoda|w> oh hang on
[07:41] <Jordan_U> Appakot, Ask your question and if anyone can help they will
[07:41] <GeekChick|> UlfJack, thanks. ill reboot into ubuntu to place that.... what file do i place it in? or do i run the command?
[07:41] <nomasteryoda|w> WM3B2915ABGNAX  look on amazon
[07:41] <UlfJack> you can just execute it on the cmd line
[07:41] <nomasteryoda|w> the wifi card
[07:41] <Frogzoo> Appakot: we have no way of knowing if we can help
[07:41] <UlfJack> if your config is messed up, try putting it in .bashrc in your home
[07:41] <UlfJack> or check if there's a path definition already
[07:42] <Appakot> Ok, I installed ubuntu, and I think I may have overwritten my Windows XP partition, because when I boot up, it goes right to Ubuntu and doesnt give me the option of going into XP or Ubuntu...
[07:42] <Strange_Wulf> *sigh* I don't have the time to go over this in detail.  I'll work on it tomorrow or sometime next week.  Thanks for the help, at least.
[07:42] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: idk the default ubuntu one but this will do -> export PATH=' /usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin'
[07:42] <Strange_Wulf> G'night, all.
[07:42] <Frogzoo> Appakot: sudo fdisk -l     ? does this show a separate windows partition?
[07:42] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: err  export PATH='/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:${HOME}'
[07:42] <GeekChick|> thanks. richiefrich, UlfJack. ill try that now... the /usr/bin for sure should fix the ls part. after that, hopefully i can get the rest.
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Appakot, You probably have *not* overwritten your windows partition unless you chose to at install.
[07:43] <binMonkey> nomasteryoda|w: thank you.  i think i'll do that changeout.  you guys here are great.  i appreciate the help very much!
[07:43] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: you need your java path and your gcc
[07:43] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: im on gentoo so mine might be different
[07:43] <nomasteryoda|w> binMonkey, i would check the HP site for compatibility
[07:43] <GeekChick|> richiefrich, ah. well its probably /bin
[07:43] <nomasteryoda|w> just to be sure, but its Centrino type.. works in my 2001 model dell and this 2004 model
[07:43] <Appakot> Jordan_U, it says: linux and linux swap/solaris in the system column
[07:43] <GeekChick|> or usr/local/bin
[07:44] <Jordan_U> Appakot, You probably just need to either A: add the windows boot option to GRUB or B: use a windows install disk to re-write the windows MBR
[07:44] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: no i mean your java
[07:44] <binMonkey> nomasteryoda|w: good call.  i wouldn't have thought of that.
[07:44] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[07:44] <GeekChick|> richiefrich, at this point it doesnt matter. ive given up on sun studio.
[07:44] <Appakot> Jordan_U, how do i add the windows boot option to GRUB?
[07:44] <GeekChick|> its impossible to install because its an RPM based install.
[07:44] <GeekChick|> and RPMs suck for one
[07:44] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: mine -> /opt/blackdown-jdk-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin:/opt/blackdown-jdk-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin:/opt/blackdown-jdk-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/bin
[07:44] <Jordan_U> Appakot, What system column? What application are you looking at?
[07:44] <GeekChick|> and two, Debian hates it
[07:44] <rohan> what is the best way to install et in ubuntu ? using the official installer ? or is there any .deb available ?
[07:44] <nomasteryoda|w> GeekChick|, lol
[07:44] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: well why are you  trying an RPM  ?
[07:45] <GenNMX> !dualboot Appakot
[07:45] <kravlin2> hello?
[07:45] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: on a .deb distro >
[07:45] <GeekChick|> richiefrich, it's all Sun Microsystems provides!
[07:45] <GenNMX> !dualboot
[07:45] <richiefrich> ?
[07:45] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:45] <Appakot> Jordan_U in the terminal, i wrote: sudo fdisk -l
[07:45] <lancellor> hey guysi just installed ubuntu in my laptop any tips my laptop is asony vaio VGN-N130G
[07:45] <GenNMX> Appakot: Look at that
[07:45] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: i doubt that .. if there is an rpm there is a tar
[07:45] <Appakot> GenNMX, look at what?
[07:45] <GeekChick|> well im going to go get my path fixed..... thx.
[07:45] <Jordan_U> Appakot, Then you may have overwritten your XP partition after all :(
[07:45] <GenNMX> Appakot: What ubotu just said...
[07:45] <nomasteryoda|w> lancellor, that should be good one ..... does that one have the joy-wheel?
[07:45] <kravlin2> is there any way to recover an account you haven't used in years and you forgot the password to?
[07:46] <GenNMX> !tell Appakot dualboot
[07:46] <Jordan_U> Appakot, When you installed Ubuntu did you tell it to use the entire drive?
[07:46] <lancellor> i already got he basics like flash, java, mp3 etc.
[07:46] <nomasteryoda|w> cool
[07:46] <Appakot> Jordan_U, no i gave it like, 40gb or something
[07:46] <nomasteryoda|w> lancellor, the video driver?
[07:46] <lancellor> yea and is working no mods
[07:46] <nomasteryoda|w> sweet
[07:46] <nomasteryoda|w> beryl?
[07:46] <lancellor> intel
[07:46] <nomasteryoda|w> oh yea
[07:46] <nomasteryoda|w> good
[07:46] <lancellor> working
[07:46] <Jordan_U> kravlin2, Yes, boot into single user mode and use passwd to change the password
[07:46] <nomasteryoda|w> gnome or kde?
[07:47] <Frogzoo> lancellor: do you have a support question?
[07:47] <nomasteryoda|w> lancellor, join us on #ubuntu-offtopic if not
[07:47] <koruptah> I installed "freepops" and it worked just fine, but then I also installed the freepops-updater-fltk package.. I downloaded the .deb files from the freepops web site, and used Gdebi to install them.  Now when i try to run synaptic i get this error message:  'E: The package freepops-updater-fltk needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.' and then the package manager closes when i close the error message dialog,
[07:47] <koruptah>  this also happens now when I try to run my update manager....  Any suggestions on how to rectify this situation?
[07:47] <GenNMX> !tell Appakot about dualboot
[07:47] <Jordan_U> Appakot, Can you pastebin the full output of sudo fdisk -l just to be sure ?
[07:47] <Passa> can someone tell me the button used to go to cube view in beryl?
[07:48] <GenNMX> There we go.
[07:48] <Passa> so i can use the mouse to rotate around the cube etc?
[07:48] <Jordan_U> GenNMX, I don't think that will help him
[07:48] <lancellor> my computer is working fine except for hibernation, the screen bright buttons
[07:48] <UlfJack> Passa: depends on your settings, but try middle mouse button on the desktop
[07:48] <charlls> heyo
[07:48] <kravlin2> i mean on the irc channel. I figured out how to save my account a while ago. Im actually here to find out how to fix that and then set up a duelboot into Windows. I have Ubuntu fully installed but i need windows for gaming.
[07:48] <Appakot> Jordan_U: Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[07:48] <Appakot> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[07:48] <Appakot> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[07:48] <Appakot>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:48] <Appakot> /dev/sda1               1        5106    41013913+  83  Linux
[07:48] <Appakot> /dev/sda2            5107        5714     4883760   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[07:48] <nomasteryoda|w> welll nice
[07:48] <richiefrich> !pastebin
[07:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:48] <r00tintheb0x> Appakot, please use a pastebin.
[07:48] <Jordan_U> !paste | Appakot
[07:48] <ubotu> Appakot: please see above
[07:48] <charlls> i have the title for the next big geek webspot
[07:48] <premier_> does swap need to be in the first four partitions?
[07:48] <richiefrich> premier_: no
[07:49] <premier_> richiefrich: thanks
[07:49] <Appakot> sorry, not sure what pastebin is, im new :-/
[07:49] <Passa> UlfJack, yes that works but how can i zoom out and still view the cube without holding mouse3
[07:49] <r00tintheb0x> premier_, some say that making the swap partition at the beginning of the drive improves performance ever so slightly.
[07:49] <berent> !pastebin > Appakot
[07:49] <premier_> richiefrich: I'm reinstalling... is there anything I would want to save besides /home?
[07:49] <richiefrich> Appakot: google pastebin . :P
[07:49] <r00tintheb0x> I dont believe that it makes a noticible differene.
[07:49] <richiefrich> premier_: i like to save /etc
[07:49] <richiefrich> premier_: if you changed configs
[07:49] <UlfJack> Passa: i'm afraid i don't know all the shortcuts by heart ;)
[07:50] <premier_> r00tintheb0x: my computer doesn't actually use swap, It's just nice to have
[07:50] <r00tintheb0x> i like to save /usr/src
[07:50] <Passa> do you know where i can find a reference of them?
[07:50] <premier_> r00tintheb0x: linux doesn't use that much ram
[07:50] <UlfJack> i'm trying to remember where
[07:50] <richiefrich> you shouldnt nned swap
[07:50] <richiefrich> need!
[07:50] <Passa> because the beryl options are highly unrevealing
[07:50] <r00tintheb0x> premier_, let a runaway perl proc eat all your memory up.
[07:50] <richiefrich> unless you run out of ram
[07:50] <r00tintheb0x> then tell me you dont need a swap :D
[07:50] <richiefrich> you dont
[07:50] <richiefrich> i dont have one
[07:50] <r00tintheb0x> yeah, we'll you'll learn.
[07:50] <richiefrich> i will ?
[07:50] <r00tintheb0x> minus the '
[07:50] <premier_> r00tintheb0x: rathernot, I'll just set aside 2gigs (plenty of space haha!)
[07:50] <UlfJack> Passa: have a look at http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Tips/Default_Commands
[07:51] <dawn_chorus> one time beryl ate every bit of the 3.4 Gig of swap I have.
[07:51] <r00tintheb0x> yeah, im just saying
[07:51] <Appakot> Jordan_U, so am i totally screwed? like, i dont care about reinstalling windows, but can i atleast access my documents and back them up?
[07:51] <richiefrich> r00tintheb0x: i been using linux since 94
[07:51] <r00tintheb0x> if something happens to eat all your ram for some reason, you dont have a swap... your system will start killing off processes.
[07:51] <richiefrich> r00tintheb0x: and i have 4G ram .. i never needed it.. :
[07:51] <UlfJack> it doesn't seem to be complete though
[07:51] <r00tintheb0x> I've seen it twenty times.
[07:51] <UlfJack> i can remember that there was a ton of different shortcuts
[07:51] <r00tintheb0x> hi GeekChick|
[07:51] <GeekChick|> richiefrich, UlfJack ty.
[07:51] <GeekChick|> r00tintheb0x, hi
[07:51] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[07:51] <richiefrich> np
[07:51] <Ragnaroek> Hello
[07:51] <UlfJack> you're welcome
[07:52] <r00tintheb0x> hi Ragnaroek
[07:52] <Jordan_U> Appakot, You are probably screwed, there are a few things worth trying like a program called testdisk, but if your partitions were truly written over it is likely all gone :(
[07:52] <GeekChick|> richiefrich, what were you saying about Sun Studio?
[07:52] <Frogzoo> dawn_chorus: /etc/security/limits.conf
[07:52] <r00tintheb0x> Appakot, if you repartitioned... you can try a third party software. I don't think its going to be recoverable though.
[07:52] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: if they have an rpm they have a tarball
[07:52] <Appakot> Jordan_U, crap, thats bad news....whats testdisk do?
[07:52] <GeekChick|> richiefrich, how do you display contents of the path?
[07:53] <Ragnaroek> interest
[07:53] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: echo $PATH
[07:53] <Appakot> r00tintheb0x, third party software like what?
[07:53] <richiefrich> Appakot: what are you trying to save ?
[07:53] <Jordan_U> Appakot, It recovers lost partitions, it will only help if it's really just your partition table that is messed up and not the partition itself
[07:53] <GeekChick|> '/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games'
[07:53] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: is that for a user ?
[07:53] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: or root ?
[07:53] <berent> GeekChick| dont spam
[07:54] <premier_> Ragnaroek: is your username a reference to the mmo?  my freind loves that game
[07:54] <dawn_chorus> Frogzoo, memlock?
[07:54] <GeekChick|> richiefrich, i would assume user, as i did not super user.
[07:54] <GeekChick|> berent, that's hardly spam. it's a single line of output.
[07:54] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: if not use /usr/sbin for a user
[07:54] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: those are root cmds
[07:54] <Jordan_U> Appakot, Like r00tintheb0x said you may be able to recover some things with third party software for recovering files from NTFS, but I wouldn't get my hopes up :(
[07:54] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: same with /sbin/
[07:54] <Appakot> richiefrich, just documents, pictures etc..
[07:55] <Sevensins> Good morning
[07:55] <richiefrich> Appakot: wha did you do ? rm -f?
[07:55] <GeekChick|> richiefrich, perhaps ubuntu and its policy of not having an administrative user and using su instead changes that from your gentoo box?
[07:55] <Appakot> richiefrich, rm -f? sorry?
[07:55] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: no  if you are a user it shouldnt be in your path ..
[07:55] <richiefrich> Appakot: how did you del it ?>
[07:56] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: GNU/linux is GNU/linux :)
[07:56] <Frogzoo> dawn_chorus: rss more likely
[07:56] <GeekChick|> richiefrich, and yet it appears to be ... perhaps another Ubuntu user can do 'echo $PATH'?
[07:56] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: i  guess so .. ask someone :)
[07:56] <UlfJack> GeekChick|: ubuntu also has an administrative user
[07:57] <Appakot> richiefrich, when i was installing ubuntu...i think
[07:57] <Jordan_U> richiefrich, It seems that Ubuntu's installer overwrote his Windows partition
[07:57] <Parmenion> ok, hi people
[07:57] <charlls> i have the title for the next big geek webspot
[07:57] <UlfJack> GeekChick|: you can do 'sudo -i' to get a root shell
[07:57] <berent> Mr richiefrrich : boss it can be for a user in admin group
[07:57] <berent> Mr richiefrrich : why are you confusing out
[07:57] <GeekChick|> Jordan_U, haha it's done that to me as well. Except it corrupted NTFS while resizing. I had a ghost backup so no harm no foul, but its most definetely not 100% effective.
[07:57] <richiefrich> UlfJack: sure but if not admin/root then /sbin:/usr/sbin shouldnt be on ones path
[07:57] <Appakot> Jordan_U, testdisk wont even work for me........
[07:57] <UlfJack> true
[07:58] <GeekChick|> UlfJack, yah but im in normal user shell, not super user'd
[07:58] <Parmenion> what happened?
[07:58] <Jordan_U> Appakot, Won't work in what way?
[07:58] <Supaplex> should synergy pass the windows/command key to the other station? (otherwise known as the super key, I assume)
[07:58] <richiefrich> berent: ?
[07:58] <timon> GAIM dont show all my buddys in the list, how can i fix it?
[07:58] <Parmenion> geekchick; sudo -su
[07:58] <berent> Mr richiefrrich : even i can see /sbin in my local user path
[07:58] <richiefrich> berent: then you added it'
[07:58] <Appakot> Jordan_U, im in the testdisk folder, double click on linux, then doubleclick on testdisk_static, and nothing happens
[07:58] <berent> Mr richiefrrich : no
[07:59] <UlfJack> i think GeekChick|'s analysis is correct - sbin is on the path so you can sudo as normal user
[07:59] <Jordan_U> Appakot, That is not how you install programs in Linux, for a GUI use synaptic or from a terminal run: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[07:59] <timon> Gaim dont show all my buddys in the icq-list, how can i fix it?
[07:59] <richiefrich> sudo /bin/bash
[07:59] <richiefrich> works just fine
[08:00] <richiefrich> Appakot: ahh that sucks .. if you overwrote a partition then you cant save it
[08:00] <GeekChick|> now that ls works again :)
[08:00] <Supaplex> timon: readd them?
[08:00] <bullgard4> What files does the directory /etc/acpi/resume.d summarize?
[08:00] <berent> GeekChick| be patient everything works
[08:00] <Appakot> richiefrich, well im not positive i overwrote it, so i just want to make sure
[08:01] <timon> Supaplex; what do you mean?
[08:01] <richiefrich> Appakot: sudo fdisk -l ?
[08:01] <richiefrich> Appakot: do you see it ?
[08:01] <Appakot> richiefrich did that allready
[08:01] <richiefrich> Appakot: do you see it ?
[08:01] <richiefrich> if no then you  did
[08:01] <Supaplex> timon: add your buddies and their icq numbers. icq is known to not resync well, unless you're using the official icq client (and even then it has issues)
[08:01] <Appakot> Jordan_U, ok i put in that command line, now what?
[08:01] <Jordan_U> richiefrich, No, he does not ( tried that already )
[08:01] <Jordan_U> Appakot, run : sudo testdisk
[08:01] <richiefrich> Jordan_U: then he overwrote it
[08:02] <wers> I am going to install ubuntu feisty on a macbook pro... are there partition issues that I have to know?
[08:02] <dawn_chorus> bullgard4, looks like stuff that's resumed after hibernation, maybe.
[08:02] <Jordan_U> richiefrich, I am hoping on the very slight chance that his partition table is simply corrupted
[08:02] <richiefrich> wers: no it  should be good
[08:02] <wers> After installing ubuntu, how do I boot with os x?
[08:02] <richiefrich> Jordan_U: if you dont see it in fdisk -l then it aint there
[08:02] <Supaplex> wers: linux has support for mac partitions. not sure what options there are for resizing mac partitions though.
[08:03] <Jordan_U> wers, There is a howto on the Ubuntu wiki, I'll find it for you...
[08:03] <richiefrich> wers: yaboot is what  you will be using
[08:03] <MrMe01> hello!
[08:03] <Supaplex> wers: to clarify, I mean, linux has support for mac partition /tables/. not sure what options there are for resizing macos /file systems/ though.
[08:03] <wers> what is yaboot?
[08:03] <Jordan_U> richiefrich, Intel macs don't use yaboot
[08:03] <richiefrich> Jordan_U: then what do they use?
[08:03] <Supaplex> wers: bootloader for the mac.
[08:03] <timon> Supaplex; so i have to add all the buddies again?
[08:03] <Jordan_U> wers, It doesn't matter, it is only used for PPC macs
[08:03] <bullgard4> dawn_chorus: Can you elaborate on 'stuff that's resumed'. That directory of course contains files.
[08:03] <Jordan_U> richiefrich, GRUB :)
[08:03] <Supaplex> timon: yes
[08:03] <r00tintheb0x> Sun hardware rocks.
[08:03] <MrMe01> can someone tell me how to create users from the console?
[08:04] <wers> the macbook I am going to install ubuntu on is intel
[08:04] <patbam> hi, i'm having a weird problem with my wireless card -- eth1 seems to have been renamed eth1:avahi, and i get messages like "The interface does not exist"
[08:04] <berent> MrMe01 : adduser
[08:04] <dawn_chorus> bullgard4, right.  looks to be scripts that are initiated after coming out of sleep/hibernate (or whatever, I don't use these functions).
[08:04] <MrMe01> thanks
[08:04] <MrMe01> now can I log in from the login window as a root user?
[08:04] <MrMe01> useing that user?
[08:04] <berent> MrMe01 : no
[08:04] <r00tintheb0x> patbam, "ln -s /dev/eth1:avahi /dev/eth1" may be a "dirty" fix.
[08:04] <berent> MrMe01 : yes
[08:05] <r00tintheb0x> MrMe01, use sudo for root privilages.
[08:05] <r00tintheb0x> you dont need to log in as root.
[08:05] <r00tintheb0x> you can "sudo -i" in a command shell to avoid reauthintication.
[08:05] <MrMe01> when it doesnt like my password for some hellbent reason?
[08:05] <UbuntuUSermen> spanish chat who is??
[08:05] <r00tintheb0x> or "gksudo" for GTK/Qt based programs.
[08:05] <Jordan_U> wers, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook But there are some differences when installing on a Macbook Pro
[08:05] <UbuntuUSermen> spanish ubuntu
[08:05] <r00tintheb0x> !spanis
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <r00tintheb0x> !spanish
[08:05] <UbuntuUSermen> chanel
[08:05] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:06] <berent> MrMe01 : what do u mean by not liking
[08:06] <wers> Thanks, Jordan_U!
[08:06] <MrMe01> I type in my password and it says auth failed
[08:06] <brad016> what is the wine channel
[08:06] <bullgard4> dawn_chorus: No, I disagree. One file of them is called 'sleep.sh', and this certainly is not initiated just after coming out of sleep.
[08:06] <berent> MrMe01 : for root?
[08:06] <MrMe01> I have turned off character repeat
[08:06] <MrMe01> yeah
[08:06] <richiefrich> Jordan_U: i see here  rEFIt
[08:06] <MrMe01> using sudo
[08:06] <r00tintheb0x> MrMe01, you sure thats your password?
[08:06] <MrMe01> yeah
[08:06] <r00tintheb0x> hmm...
[08:06] <r00tintheb0x> are you your user now.
[08:06] <Jordan_U> wers, I have a macbook pro and with Feisty Beta at least X failed to start on the LiveCD, if this is still the case I can help
[08:07] <r00tintheb0x> try "passwd" and change your password and try again.
[08:07] <MrMe01> I use the same password for my usual
[08:07] <MrMe01> its in a vm
[08:07] <brad016> how do you install wine 0.9.39
[08:07] <r00tintheb0x> Jordan_U, thats weird.
[08:07] <r00tintheb0x> brad016, "aptitude install wine"
[08:07] <wers> ues, it's the case, Jordan_U
[08:07] <berent> MrMe01 : what's vm
[08:08] <MrMe01> I am testing it out atm
[08:08] <wers> I just downloaded the 64 bit version and I'll try if it works
[08:08] <MrMe01> vmware
[08:08] <dawn_chorus> bullgard4, well, quite frankly, i just googled the directory name and looked around.  it's script concerning these or similar functions, etc.
[08:08] <Jordan_U> r00tintheb0x, No it's not, it used an ATI card :(
[08:08] <tom_> MrMe01: you'll need to get the wine ubuntu repo  off the website
[08:08] <tom_> MrMe01: for the latest wine
[08:08] <wers> the 32 bit version failed to start x, Jordan_U
[08:08] <SoulinEther> anybody wanna help me remap some partitions in fstab? :D
[08:08] <MrMe01> I dont want wine :S
[08:08] <berent> MrMe01 : :-)
[08:08] <xeby> :P
[08:08] <MrMe01> wrong person :D
[08:08] <tom_> MrMe01: sry wrong guuy lol
[08:08] <Jordan_U> wers, Ok, use ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a terminal...
[08:08] <r00tintheb0x> Jordan_U, what do the X.org.log logs say?
[08:08] <brad016> what is the wine help channel
[08:08] <brad016> network whatever
[08:08] <MrMe01> thanks for your help
[08:08] <r00tintheb0x> brad016, #wine
[08:08] <SoulinEther> hum
[08:08] <brad016> thank you in the butt
[08:08] <wers> is it better to use the 64 bit Feisty for the macbook?
[08:08] <r00tintheb0x> lol brad016
[08:08] <MrMe01> all I want to do is get rid of this gnome crap
[08:09] <MrMe01> KDE FTW
[08:09] <bullgard4> dawn_chorus: Thank you very much for trying to help me out.
[08:09] <r00tintheb0x> wers, if the Macbook is 64bit arch.
[08:09] <wers> I have not tried it yet.. I hope X does not crash there
[08:09] <r00tintheb0x> kde... heh.
[08:09] <SoulinEther> does anybody know... if i map a 62 gig partition to /home ... waht will happen with what's already in my current /home?
[08:09] <Jordan_U> r00tintheb0x, Don't remember, there is a bug filed somewhere, It seems X can only start with fglrx, not even VESA .
[08:09] <berent> MrMe01 : if you lose root password try reinstalling
[08:09] <r00tintheb0x> Fluxbox pwns KDE
[08:09] <MrMe01> or flux
[08:09] <GeekChick|> richiefrich, i found the bzip2 distribution of sun studio...
[08:09] <r00tintheb0x> dang Jordan_U
[08:09] <r00tintheb0x> That, i dont know.
[08:09] <berent> !flux
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <Appakot> yep, im screwed
[08:09] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: there you go
[08:09] <MrMe01> much better than freaking gnome tho
[08:09] <Jordan_U> MrMe01, If you loose your password you do *not* need to re-install
[08:09] <r00tintheb0x> Jordan_U, whats the model of your macbook?
[08:09] <dawn_chorus> bullgard4, no sweat man.  i like to learn tracking stuff down.
[08:09] <Appakot> is there any way to say......uninstall Linux?
[08:09] <r00tintheb0x> yeah MrMe01 i told you what to try.
[08:10] <r00tintheb0x> Did you change your password
[08:10] <r00tintheb0x> then try a "sudo -i"
[08:10] <GeekChick|> richiefrich, it's *REALLY* slow. 1.2 MB /sec.
[08:10] <Jordan_U> r00tintheb0x, Macbook pro 17'', core duo

[08:10] <patbam> r00tintheb0x: i'll try "ln -s /dev/eth1:avahi /dev/eth1" ; how can i undo that if need be?
[08:10] <SoulinEther> Appakot: good question... then again... is there any way to "uninstall" windows? :P
[08:10] <r00tintheb0x> Appakot, why are you screwed?
[08:10] <Shaddox> Hi everyone. Will the product at http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7366566&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat107700050013&id=1122653260124 support Ubuntu? I'm not sure if it does or not.
[08:10] <richiefrich> GeekChick|: yeah seems slow :|
[08:10] <MrMe01> its a vm, I can delete it and start again :P
[08:10] <Appakot> SoulinEther, touche, guess its call reformatting
[08:10] <r00tintheb0x> rm -f /dev/eth1 if there isnt already one.
[08:10] <MrMe01> so what do I do anyway?
[08:10] <Appakot> r00tintheb0x, because i overwrote my windows partition and lost all my files
[08:10] <berent> r00tintheb0x : even passwd needs old password
[08:10] <r00tintheb0x> Appakot, i'll pray for you.
[08:11] <r00tintheb0x> berent, try using your old passwd ther.
[08:11] <r00tintheb0x> there*
[08:11] <SoulinEther> Appakot: it won't be long now.  I tried and its giving me the blue screen with XORG couldn't start.
[08:11] <MrMe01> I think I have :S
[08:11] <MrMe01> nvm
[08:11] <dawn_chorus> couldn't you reset password using single user mode?
[08:11] <r00tintheb0x> hold Jordan_U im checkin it out.
[08:11] <MrMe01> thanks for you time guys
[08:11] <berent> r00tintheb0x : old password doesnt work for MrMe01
[08:11] <MrMe01> your*
[08:11] <Jordan_U> berent, Stop suggesting that, it is not necessary, he can boot in single user mode and change his password
[08:11] <r00tintheb0x> Jordan_U, it dosent have a NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics controller?
[08:12] <r00tintheb0x> right.
[08:12] <berent> Jordan_U : right i forgot that
[08:12] <Jordan_U> r00tintheb0x, No, mac*book* pro, not Mac pro
[08:12] <r00tintheb0x> ok
[08:12] <r00tintheb0x> i've got it.
[08:12] <berent> MrMe01 : try with single user mode
[08:12] <r00tintheb0x> http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
[08:12] <r00tintheb0x> ?
[08:12] <Jordan_U> r00tintheb0x, Yes
[08:12] <berent> MrMe01 : recovery mode
[08:12] <dawn_chorus> Shaddox, SanDisks are well supported.
[08:12] <r00tintheb0x> just add "single" to the end of the kernel line in the grub menu MrMe01
[08:12] <MrMe01> anyone know why ubuntu is more stable than kubunu? well I have tried both and ubuntu seems faster
[08:12] <Shaddox> dawn_chorus: Thanks.
[08:13] <r00tintheb0x> MrMe01, both are the same.
[08:13] <MrMe01> the esc key?
[08:13] <r00tintheb0x> its kde v.s. gnome there.
[08:13] <MrMe01> you sure?
[08:13] <SoulinEther> Gnome is lighter than KDE
[08:13] <MrMe01> oh
[08:13] <MrMe01> ok
[08:13] <r00tintheb0x> gnome is more light weight than kde in my opinion.
[08:13] <MrMe01> well it is a vm
[08:13] <SoulinEther> and xfce is lighter than gnome
[08:13] <r00tintheb0x> fluxbox is lighter than both.
[08:13] <SoulinEther> (i <3 xfce)
[08:13] <r00tintheb0x> ALL of em.
[08:13] <r00tintheb0x> w00t
[08:13] <SoulinEther> oh yeah? does fluxbox work with beryl? :D
[08:13] <binMonkey> how do i call the ubotu bot?
[08:13] <MrMe01> but gnome pisses the hell out of me
[08:13] <SoulinEther> if so, please, guide me :D
[08:13] <Jordan_U> wers, This proabably won't work as it didn't in beta but it's worth a shot now, run: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" and choose VESA as the driver
[08:13] <r00tintheb0x> Jordan_U, i dont see ATI anywhere on that page.
[08:14] <Frogzoo> MrMe01: gnome used to be slower - they've tightened the screws the last couple releases
[08:14] <dawn_chorus> binarydigit, /msg ubotu info
[08:14] <r00tintheb0x> have you tried "nv"?
[08:14] <MrMe01> the file navigator is so goddamned backward
[08:14] <SoulinEther> You might like Xfce, it's the clever balance between Gnome's simplicity and KDE's complicated configuration
[08:14] <SoulinEther> s
[08:14] <Jordan_U> r00tintheb0x, Believe me, it's ATI
[08:14] <MrMe01> buttons all over the place
[08:14] <binMonkey> dawn_chorus: thanks.
[08:14] <igxmyzt> I can't figure out how to get ubuntu to use my NEW graphics card to save my life. I tried and its giving me the blue screen with XORG couldn't start.
[08:14] <wers> okay, I'll try it, Jordan_U
[08:14] <r00tintheb0x> lol Jordan_U sorry man, you seem you know what you're talking about.
[08:14] <MrMe01> shall try that now
[08:14] <Frogzoo> igxmyzt: which vid card?
[08:14] <MrMe01> in recovery
[08:14] <CaptainMorgan> If I make edits to a text file or html file and then upload it to a Win machine, why is the Win machine showing a file that is obnoxiously spaced - horizontally? too many line feeds or carriage returns from the Ubuntu machine? how do I adjust this?
[08:14] <dawn_chorus> binMonkey, that'll give you a private ubotu channel you can call into
[08:14] <igxmyzt> Frogzoo: Radeon X1550
[08:14] <igxmyzt> Frogzoo: PCI
[08:15] <MrMe01> thats ati
[08:15] <r00tintheb0x> Jordan_U, install the alternate cd w/o a gui, and install ubuntu-desktop after the basic server install cd... so you can see the xorg logs.
[08:15] <MrMe01> I have an x1950
[08:15] <Jordan_U> r00tintheb0x, Ahh, I forgot they just came out with a new version about a week ago, that must come with Nvidia
[08:15] <r00tintheb0x> thats some amazing crap... i've never seen nothing not go to X in vesa mode.
[08:15] <igxmyzt> MrMe01: i'd like an x1950 too, but i dont have pci-e slots =/
[08:15] <Frogzoo> CaptainMorgan: before you move it to doze, run 'unix2dos' on it - nix terminates lines with /n - doze user /r/n
[08:15] <r00tintheb0x> ok Jordan_U
[08:15] <MrMe01> :P
[08:15] <Jordan_U> wers, Still there?
[08:15] <MrMe01> I have two
[08:15] <MrMe01> want one?
[08:15] <wers> yes
[08:15] <r00tintheb0x> Jordan_U, can you drop to an alternate terminal and check the boot, messages, and dmesg logs?
[08:15] <CaptainMorgan> thanks Frogzoo ;)\
[08:15] <igxmyzt> MrMe01: sure XD
[08:15] <CaptainMorgan> ill look into it
[08:16] <berent> MrMe01 : what two you have
[08:16] <brad016> I uninstalled wine and in the apps menu wine is still there
[08:16] <Appakot> real quick, when using beryl, when i go to the 3D Desktop, I'm viewing from 'inside' the box, is there any way to get on the 'outside' of the box?
[08:16] <r00tintheb0x> brad016, shows where?
[08:16] <MrMe01> *hands you my spare PCIE slot*
[08:16] <brad016> its own folder
[08:16] <Jordan_U> r00tintheb0x, Again, it works with fglrx and that is what I am currently using
[08:16] <r00tintheb0x> where?
[08:16] <bullgard4> English help wanted: What is the English name of the last menu item in the window that appears when you choose Gnome main menu System > Preferences > Sound (Sound Preferences) > Devices? Is it 'Given mixer trace'?
[08:16] <r00tintheb0x> oh it DOES work.
[08:16] <MrMe01> yeah
[08:16] <igxmyzt> MrMe01: You can add a slot without changing motherboards?
[08:16] <r00tintheb0x> my bad. i thought you said it didnt work at all.
[08:16] <brad016> when you click on the applications menu at the top left of the screen
[08:16] <wers> Jordan_U, I'm still burning the 64 bit Feisty
[08:16] <wers> I'll try it after a while
[08:16] <Jordan_U> r00tintheb0x, Yes, but the CD does not come with fglrx
[08:16] <MrMe01> another card for crossfire, yes
[08:17] <r00tintheb0x> yeah, i see what you're saying now.
[08:17] <Jordan_U> wers, I don't think that will help
[08:17] <MrMe01> its a crossfire board
[08:17] <brad016> \and I uninstalled it, it should be gone, no?
[08:17] <SoulinEther> anybody know what virtual server runs windows 98 SE well?
[08:17] <MrMe01> MSI K9a
[08:17] <berent> MrMe01 : well yeah
[08:17] <SoulinEther> vm?
[08:17] <r00tintheb0x> Thats weird though... again, i've never seen anything not go into X with the vesa module.
[08:17] <igxmyzt> Frogzoo: did you leave me?
[08:17] <wers> okay.. I'll just try the code you gave
[08:17] <r00tintheb0x> SoulinEther, i have many times.
[08:17] <r00tintheb0x> Whats up?
[08:17] <Appakot> can anyone help me with beryl real quick?
[08:17] <premier_> hey guys, who made the decision that the feisty cd won't boot on new ati cards unless you manually install fglrx?  Even the edgy cd didn't need that
[08:17] <r00tintheb0x> SoulinEther, in VMware?
[08:17] <Jordan_U> wers, And many things ( all proprietary like flash and codecs ) are harder to set up in 64 bit Ubuntu
[08:17] <berent> !vmware
[08:17] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[08:18] <r00tintheb0x> premier_, no idea... we were just taking about that.
[08:18] <SoulinEther> r00tintheb0x: yes, perhaps, if it's faster than .. VirtualBox, which has minimal support for Dos based windows
[08:18] <premier_> r00tintheb0x: it seems like a mistake
[08:18] <MrMe01> So I am in console now what do I do? (please hold my hand)
[08:18] <wers> so you think it's  better to use the 32 bit version??
[08:18] <MrMe01> safe mode I belive
[08:18] <premier_> if anything should "just work" its safe graphics mode feisty cd
[08:18] <r00tintheb0x> maybe the hardware came out after the stock feisty kernel was compiled.
[08:18] <r00tintheb0x> or maybe it'll be fixed in the newest kernel version.
[08:18] <berent> MrMe01 : passwd
[08:18] <yangyiyun> is there anyone?
[08:18] <MrMe01> ty
[08:19] <igxmyzt> I can't figure out how to get ubuntu to use my NEW graphics card to save my life. I tried and its giving me the blue screen with XORG couldn't start.
[08:19] <r00tintheb0x> But like i said, i've never seen "vesa" not work... unless the res was misconfigured.
[08:19] <wers> will it really be faster if I use the 64 bit version on a macbook pro?
[08:19] <Jordan_U> yangyiyun, Anyone what?
[08:19] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, is it a ATI card?
[08:19] <yangyiyun> body
[08:19] <MrMe01> well apparently it worked?
[08:19] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: yes
[08:19] <MrMe01> thanks
[08:19] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, i you have to use fglrx
[08:19] <yangyiyun> i firstyl user this
[08:19] <r00tintheb0x> or whatever.
[08:19] <premier_> r00tintheb0x: my ati card came out a year afo
[08:19] <premier_> ago
[08:19] <Appakot> Jordan_U, can you help me with beryl real quick?
[08:19] <berent> yangyiyun : body!
[08:19] <r00tintheb0x> oh premier_
[08:19] <Jordan_U> wers, For almost anything you would do with a Desktop machine, no
[08:19] <Perun> is there a flash plugin pkg for amd64 arch?
[08:19] <MrMe01> shutdown -r now still work?
[08:19] <berent> yangyiyun : which body
[08:19] <r00tintheb0x> premier_, whats the chipset?
[08:19] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: can't, i cant get the XORG to find it with dpkg-reconfigure
[08:20] <yangyiyun> my mplayer can't play mms
[08:20] <r00tintheb0x> yes Perun its on the Adobe site.
[08:20] <berent> MrMe01 : have patience everything works
[08:20] <premier_> r00tintheb0x: not sure... ati radeon X1400 mobility
[08:20] <MrMe01> thats the only command I seem to remember
[08:20] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, is it installed?
[08:20] <Jordan_U> Appakot, Maybe, but you will probably get better help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:20] <Perun> r00tintheb0x: oh ok thx
[08:20] <r00tintheb0x> sure thing Perun
[08:20] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: yeah, lspci said 2:0.00, but i dont know what to do
[08:20] <jimwhimpey> test
[08:20] <brad016> rfgbrwsgbsrgbsb
[08:20] <berent> yangyiyun : get mms plugin
[08:20] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: typing PCI2:0:0 didnt work in the reconfig
[08:20] <yangyiyun> hao can do that
[08:20] <Appakot> Jordan_U, ok, well its quite simple, all i want to do, is basically when I goto the 3-D Desktop, I view it from 'inside' is there anyways to view it from the 'outside'?
[08:21] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, is the module loaded?
[08:21] <yangyiyun> apt-get ??
[08:21] <wers> So does that mean that, if I was to choose between 32 and 64 bit Ubuntu versions, 32 bit still is more practical for the macbook pro?
[08:21] <berent> ask Jordan_U he has it
[08:21] <r00tintheb0x> lsmod |grep fglrx
[08:21] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: come again???
[08:21] <r00tintheb0x> is the module loaded.
[08:21] <r00tintheb0x> do this command.
[08:21] <r00tintheb0x> lsmod |grep fglrx
[08:21] <MrMe01> how do I get information in the cli, to stop after a page of info?
[08:21] <bharat862004> can someone help me install beryl and nvidia driver in ubuntu 6.06 LTS ??? :)
[08:21] <MrMe01> -p?
[08:21] <yangyiyun> why don't u user chinese ??
[08:21] <Jordan_U> Appakot, Yes, but I forget where the setting is in Beryl-settings
[08:21] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: i installed the restricted drivers before i did dpkg
[08:22] <yangyiyun> why don't u use chinese ??
[08:22] <berent> MrMe01 : more or less or pg
[08:22] <Jordan_U> bharat862004, It is *much* easier to install in Feisty
[08:22] <MrMe01> thanks
[08:22] <r00tintheb0x> what does "updatedb && locate fglrx" return?
[08:22] <premier_> Appakot: its on the second page, I think, with the desktop cube entry... outside is the default setting
[08:22] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt,
[08:22] <xenex> does anyone know how to make identd work?
[08:22] <MrMe01> is that before or after the command
[08:22] <bharat862004> Jordan_U: i dont have feisty :(
[08:22] <r00tintheb0x> question of the day goes to
[08:22] <r00tintheb0x> xenex,
[08:22] <r00tintheb0x> !
[08:22] <PurpZeY> xenex: You mean client side?
[08:22] <Perun> r00tintheb0x: hmm I see only this http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash but its for x86 not amd64
[08:22] <berent> cat <file> | pg
[08:22] <xenex> PurpZeY, yes
[08:22] <MrMe01> so shutdown less OR less shutdown?
[08:22] <berent> cat <file> | more
[08:22] <r00tintheb0x> Perun, http://frem.wordpress.com/2006/05/31/installing-flash-in-ubuntu-606-lts/
[08:22] <premier_> r00tintheb0x: it will search your entire hard drive for fglrx
[08:22] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: i'd have to reboot twice. im dualbooting, im on xp now
[08:23] <berent> latter
[08:23] <r00tintheb0x> premier_, it wont take long... its indexed.
[08:23] <bharat862004> Jordan_U: tell me how to install in my ubuntu ??
[08:23] <Jordan_U> bharat862004, I am suggesting that it would be easier and more stable to get it than install beryl on Dapper
[08:23] <MrMe01> sorry I used to play with redhat on ancient hardware and I have forgotten so much
[08:23] <premier_> r00tintheb0x: golly jesus... I misread your post
[08:23] <Cowfood> can anyone reccomend some cood widgets for the gnome desktop?
[08:23] <yangyiyun> can you tell me the plugin's name
[08:23] <bharat862004> Jordan_U: but i dont have that man... understand
[08:23] <Appakot> premier_, i dont see anything, can you be a little more specific please?
[08:23] <MrMe01> eww
[08:23] <xenex> PurpZeY, do you know how?
[08:23] <r00tintheb0x> or you can "find /usr/ -name "*fglrx*""
[08:23] <r00tintheb0x> or wherever the kernel modules dir resides.
[08:23] <PurpZeY> xenex: what makes you think it's not working?
[08:23] <xenex> PurpZeY, it's not.
[08:24] <Jordan_U> bharat862004, I don't know how to install it in Dapper, you might get better help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:24] <xenex> PurpZeY, * *** No identd (auth) response
[08:24] <berent> MrMe01 : I am there for you
[08:24] <r00tintheb0x> hey Jordan_U : http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_X1400
[08:24] <MrMe01> thanks
[08:24] <r00tintheb0x> Interesting info.
[08:24] <MrMe01> how do I get this to reboot?
[08:24] <bharat862004> Jordan_U: checking their also :(
[08:24] <PurpZeY> xenex: right, I have the same thing.
[08:24] <r00tintheb0x> xenex, are you behind a router or switch?
[08:24] <r00tintheb0x> Firewall?
[08:24] <berent> MrMe01 : reboot
[08:24] <xenex> r00tintheb0x, port 113 is open
[08:24] <berent> MrMe01 : init 6
[08:25] <MrMe01> *slaps forehead*
[08:25] <r00tintheb0x> xenex,  netstat -l |grep 113
[08:25] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: can you give me a full list of things to try? takes a lot of time to run one command and reboot again.
[08:25] <xenex> r00tintheb0x, no reply
[08:25] <troy-> anyone know why pam mount cant unmount a loop FS when logging in via SSH, but can using console?
[08:25] <Jordan_U> wers, Sorry about the delay, too many people asking questions :)
[08:25] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, thats all i've got man... its a known bug... check this page out http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_X1400
[08:25] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: why mobility?
[08:26] <wers> so, 32 bit is BETTER for the macbook pro?
[08:26] <r00tintheb0x> hmm
[08:26] <MrMe01> sorry *hides behind his monitor*
[08:26] <burnerx> good day !!
[08:26] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, im getting confused.
[08:26] <Perun> r00tintheb0x: I have 7.04 and amd64
[08:26] <r00tintheb0x> There's 6 people with ATI probs in here.
[08:26] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[08:26] <premier_> Appakot: Beryl-Settings>Desktop>Desktop Cube>Inside Cube... gnome optimized programs have such a counter intiutive layout in my opinion
[08:26] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: im on a desktop XD
[08:26] <Cowfood> can anyone reccomend some cood widgets for the gnome desktop?
[08:26] <r00tintheb0x> Perun, it doesn't matter.
[08:26] <MrMe01> 7
[08:26] <SEOmoz> anybody knows the reason that in firestarter appears an active conection without the program running that does not exist if i make a netstat, am i sure that this conection does not exist and firestarter shows false information ?
[08:26] <Jordan_U> wers, For a beginner, yes, much less hastle
[08:26] <r00tintheb0x> i dont understand igxmyzt
[08:26] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: Radeon X1550
[08:26] <Perun> r00tintheb0x: firefox says unkown plugin if I do it as writen on this site
[08:26] <MrMe01> brb
[08:27] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, the fglrx is working?
[08:27] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: can't get dpkg-reconfigure to set ubuntu to the new radeon from my old 9250
[08:27] <berent> fglrx has no problems
[08:27] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: i dont know, i installed the restricted drivers before i did dpkg
[08:28] <r00tintheb0x> Perun, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[08:28] <r00tintheb0x> !flash
[08:28] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:28] <r00tintheb0x> there you go Perun
[08:28] <MrMe01> WHOOOO! It worked!!!!!
[08:28] <Jordan_U> wers, To get X to start from the Live ("desktop") CD, go to a terminal and run this choosing "fglrx" as the driver when asked : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:28] <MrMe01> SORRY
[08:28] <MrMe01> ooops
[08:28] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, it doesn't matter... yuo dont need dpkg-reconfigure to put that in your xorg.conf file.
[08:28] <MrMe01> me needs sleep
[08:28] <brad016> Han<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[08:28] <brad016> * Crav<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
 r00tintheb0x: firefox says unkown plugin if I do it as writen on this site
[08:28] <brad016> * Crav<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu
 brb
 igxmyzt, the fglrx is working?
 r00tintheb0x: can't get dpkg-reconfigure to set ubuntu to the new radeon from my old 9250
[08:28] <brad016> * GeekChick| has quit ("Leaving")
[08:28] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 fglrx has no problems
 r00tintheb0x: i dont know, i installed the restricted drivers before i did dpkg
[08:29] <MrMe01> ?
 Perun, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
 !flash
 To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
 there you go Perun
[08:29] <Jordan_U> brad016, Stop
 WHOOOO! It worked!!!!!
 wers, To get X to start from the Live ("desktop") CD, go to a terminal and run this choosing "fglrx" as the driver when asked : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
 SORRY
[08:29] <r00tintheb0x> brad016?
 ooops
[08:29] <r00tintheb0x> wth
 igxmyzt, it doesn't matter... yuo dont need dpkg-reconfigure to put that in your xorg.conf file.
[08:29] <PurpZeY> !ops
[08:29] <Jordan_U> !ops
[08:29] <ubotu> Help!  Welcome!
[08:30] <igxmyzt> where were we?
[08:30] <r00tintheb0x> Perun, how many times do i have to explain to you what you need to do.
[08:30] <berent> lonely gimp
[08:30] <berent> why
[08:30] <r00tintheb0x> Perun, THIS INFORMATION IS FOR YOU!!!: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[08:30] <r00tintheb0x> !flash
[08:30] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:30] <MrMe01> what happened there?
[08:30] <MrMe01> I feel violated for some reason
[08:31] <r00tintheb0x> !Restricted
[08:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:31] <r00tintheb0x> !Gnash
[08:31] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[08:31] <r00tintheb0x> all thats for you Perun :)
[08:31] <Perun> r00tintheb0x: from this sit: "This doesn't work for amd64, since there's no 64-bit firefox plugin. "
[08:31] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: i dont know how to check the fglrx
[08:31] <bullgard4> English help wanted: What is the name of the last menu item in the 'Sound preferences' dialog Gnome main menu System > Preferences > Sound (Sound Preferences) > Devices? Is it 'Given mixer trace'?
[08:31] <berent> r00tintheb0x : lonely gimp ! who
[08:31] <r00tintheb0x> oh Perun im sorry.
[08:31] <pizza_fan> does anyone know how to get creative SB X-Fi running under ubuntu?
[08:31] <r00tintheb0x> Perun, have you checked ubuntuforums.org?
[08:31] <sivaji>  i  *cant* resize /dev/hd3 which is mounted at /   i wnat to resize that ple help me
[08:31] <crimsun> pizza_fan: only the X-Fi Extreme Audio will work.
[08:32] <Perun> r00tintheb0x: no, but I do it now
[08:32] <crimsun> pizza_fan: there are no existing drivers otherwise
[08:32] <pizza_fan> ah thanks crimsun
[08:32] <MrMe01> anyone have knowledge of installing vmware drivers?
[08:32] <r00tintheb0x> MrMe01, yes.
[08:32] <berent> sivaji : you can't do it
[08:32] <MrMe01> ahh
[08:32] <berent> sivaji : you can't do it on root
[08:32] <MrMe01> are all the paths ok?
[08:32] <r00tintheb0x> yes
[08:32] <MrMe01> I have read the install guide
[08:32] <r00tintheb0x> you need to install build-essential and kernel headers
[08:32] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: im very confused
[08:32] <sivaji> berent is there any way to resize that
[08:32] <r00tintheb0x> igx why?
[08:32] <Appakot> premier_, 1 more question, can ya help out?
[08:33] <MrMe01> and it needs to know the paths
[08:33] <MrMe01> are they the same
[08:33] <r00tintheb0x> MrMe01, have you tried hitting enter?
[08:33] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: because linux is harder than windows XD
[08:33] <premier_> Appakot: love to
[08:33] <sivaji> berent :
[08:33] <Jordan_U> MrMe01, Just go with the defaults
[08:33] <MrMe01> kk
[08:33] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, it'll get easier.
[08:33] <berent> sivaji : you have to create another partition and log in from there and then
[08:33] <premier_> !help | Appakot
[08:33] <ubotu> Appakot: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:33] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: not so sure about that, if i cant even get my vid card to work :(
[08:33] <PurpZeY> sivaji: That is the root partition you can't resize it while on it
[08:33] <premier_> not the help I was looking for
[08:33] <r00tintheb0x> Perun, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:33] <necro> stupid question: how do I add desktops?
[08:33] <PurpZeY> !ask
[08:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:33] <sivaji> berent  PurpZeY ok
[08:34] <r00tintheb0x> necro, I dont understand the question.
[08:34] <Jordan_U> necro, You mean virtual desktops?
[08:34] <PurpZeY> necro: You mean, more then one workspace/
[08:34] <necro> yes
[08:34] <r00tintheb0x> ooh
[08:34] <PurpZeY> h-size
[08:34] <necro> yes, I have 2 and want 4.
[08:34] <Appakot> premier_, ok so when i go to the 3D desktop, the windows i have on the desktop come off the actual desktop, but the desktops themselves have their edges touching, is there a way to get the desktops to zoom out as well??
[08:34] <MrMe01> where are the kernal header files?
[08:34] <r00tintheb0x> right click on the desktop swapper by the time necro \
[08:34] <Jordan_U> necro, Are you using Gnome or Beryl?
[08:34] <r00tintheb0x> MrMe01, "aptitude search header" and install the ones relevant to your running kernel.
[08:34] <jimwhimpey> testing
[08:34] <necro> Jordan: gnome
[08:34] <MrMe01> ahh
[08:34] <jimwhimpey> testing
[08:34] <PurpZeY> Appakot: I don't think so, but it seems to me that be a better question asked in #beryl
[08:35] <premier_> Appakot: I'm sure I've seen that somewhere on youtube, but I just don't know where to find it
[08:35] <igxmyzt> necro: right click the desktops at the bottom
[08:35] <MrMe01> amd64
[08:35] <necro> got it
[08:35] <necro> Thank you all so much, once again.
[08:35] <r00tintheb0x> you can tell your kernel version by doing a "uname -a" MrMe01
[08:35] <r00tintheb0x> good necro
[08:35] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[08:35] <Appakot> premier_, ok how do i join the #ubuntu-effects channel? what do i type?
[08:35] <necro> r00t: thanx
[08:35] <MrMe01> should I open a new terminal?
[08:35] <jimwhimpey> test
[08:35] <necro> take care guys, keep up the good support.  :)
[08:35] <premier_> Appakot: /join #ubuntu-effects
[08:35] <PurpZeY> Appakot: /join #ubuntu-effects and /join #beryl
[08:35] <r00tintheb0x> MrMe01, ctrl+alt+t
[08:35] <MrMe01> kk
[08:35] <BrainPower> helloo guys
[08:35] <Jordan_U> wers, Still here, again sory for the delay, I just keep getting distracted.
[08:35] <r00tintheb0x> sure thing necro
[08:36] <r00tintheb0x> oops
[08:36] <Jordan_U> wers, ?
[08:36] <berent> hi BrainPower : how much do u have
[08:36] <r00tintheb0x> hi BrainPower
[08:36] <jimwhimpey> test
[08:36] <Enyo> best torrrent client for nix that isn't as horribly mangled as azureus?
[08:36] <r00tintheb0x> test
[08:36] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: can you tell me what to do? lspci says its 2:0.0, and i tried PCI:2:0:0 in the dpkg plus a bunch of other stuff and i always get blue XORG failed screen except once i got black ubuntu login screen. sound played, but no graphics loaded. just black.
[08:36] <r00tintheb0x> Enyo, deluge
[08:36] <xenex> r00tintheb0x, any more ideas?
[08:37] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt... are you the one that cant change their driver because dpkg-reconfigure wont work?
[08:37] <MrMe01> none that match amd64
[08:37] <r00tintheb0x> xenex, refresh my mem... sorry. Juggling a lot.
[08:37] <xenex> r00tintheb0x, identd not working
[08:37] <MrMe01> there are generic ones
[08:37] <PurpZeY> xenex: why does it matter if identd works?
[08:37] <r00tintheb0x> oh yeah.
[08:37] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: im the one that changed their driver before doing dpkg-reconfigure, and now i cant get ubuntu to load on the new gfx card.
[08:37] <xenex> PurpZeY, because i would like it to work
[08:37] <berent> MrMe01 : install generic
[08:37] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, what do you mean you changed your driver? With dpkg?
[08:37] <MrMe01> is that the command?
[08:38] <r00tintheb0x> is what the command?
[08:38] <PurpZeY> xenex: You might just need to open the ports on your router
[08:38] <berent> no apt-get install <generic-,,,>
[08:38] <xenex> PurpZeY, i said above that i did
[08:38] <Itr0nic> iv downloaded ubuntu 5 times and i do a check on the cd and always get one defect , any ideas what i should do
[08:38] <MrMe01> I have never used aptitude before
[08:38] <r00tintheb0x> PurpZeY, netstat -l |grep 113 returns nothing.
[08:38] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: i installed the driver that Restricted Manager suggested for the card when i was on the old card, THEN i did dpkg-reconfigure, and i cant get it to work.
[08:38] <r00tintheb0x> the port isnt listening.
[08:38] <radioaktivstorm> hello, how does one change the default file manager?
[08:38] <binMonkey> Jordan_U: i installed bcm43xx-fwcutter and it works great.  but is there a command to check the actual speed of my connection?
[08:38] <berent> MrMe01 : so what
[08:38] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, you need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and replace the current driver with the right now.
[08:38] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: how?
[08:38] <Jordan_U> binMonkey, wget something from a beefy server :)
[08:39] <r00tintheb0x> bcm43xx has native support.
[08:39] <Jonie> I use gfxboot as suse in my ubuntu7.04, but it aways shows: graphics file "(hd0,1)/boot/grub/message.ubublown" missing, when i'm bootting. To tell you firstly, the message.ubublown file is really in the grub folder anyone here can help me out.
[08:39] <Jonie> of couse, I'd tell you that my /boot mount to sda2 and my gfxmenu entry is like: gfxboot (hd0,1)/boot/grub/message.ubublown. Thanks!
[08:39] <MrMe01> so how do I install?
[08:39] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, i've already told some...i believe yuo.
[08:39] <r00tintheb0x> scroll up
[08:39] <berent> MrMe01 : you would have never met a girl before but you have to start once right
[08:39] <Frogzoo> Itr0nic: burn 1/2 speed, also check the md5sum of the iso you're burning is correct
[08:39] <r00tintheb0x> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:39] <MrMe01> I have a girl
[08:39] <berent> apt-get install <name_of_the_generic-,,,>
[08:39] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[08:39] <Jonie> I use gfxboot as suse in my ubuntu7.04, but it aways shows: graphics file "(hd0,1)/boot/grub/message.ubublown" missing, when i'm bootting. To tell you firstly, the message.ubublown file is really in the grub folder anyone here can help me out.
[08:39] <Jonie> of couse, I'd tell you that my /boot mount to sda2 and my gfxmenu entry is like: gfxboot (hd0,1)/boot/grub/message.ubublown. Thanks!
[08:39] <Enyo> As of Feisty, Deluge is in Ubuntu's universe repository. DO NOT INSTALL THIS VERSION
[08:39] <Enyo> :|
[08:39] <binMonkey> Jordan_U: uhhhhhh.  i sort of know wget, but what is a beefy server? :)
[08:39] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: what do i change???
[08:39] <berent> MrMe01 : whats ur age
[08:39] <pizza_fan> is there a way to get more effects for beryl somewhere?
[08:39] <PurpZeY> xenex: I have some recollection of my ISP telling me that they don't have that port open, and had no interesting in opening it for me...maybe I forgot.
[08:39] <r00tintheb0x> find whatever "Driver" is by the name of your graphics card.
[08:39] <MrMe01> ahh thankyou r00t
[08:39] <MrMe01> 22
[08:40] <r00tintheb0x> and use "vesa" or "ati" or "nv" or whatever your card is.
[08:40] <r00tintheb0x> save it
[08:40] <Jonie> I use gfxboot as suse in my ubuntu7.04, but it aways shows: graphics file "(hd0,1)/boot/grub/message.ubublown" missing, when i'm bootting. To tell you firstly, the message.ubublown file is really in the grub folder anyone here can help me out.
[08:40] <berent> MrMe01 : good
[08:40] <Jonie> of couse, I'd tell you that my /boot mount to sda2 and my gfxmenu entry is like: gfxboot (hd0,1)/boot/grub/message.ubublown. Thanks!
[08:40] <r00tintheb0x> then do a /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:40] <MrMe01> why is that good?
[08:40] <Itr0nic> frogzoo: iv matched the hash's im going to try on some new cds iv got and burning at 4 speed
[08:40] <xenex> PurpZeY, uhh... i don't know why you told me that
[08:40] <berent> MrMe01 : 22 and only "a girl"
[08:40] <r00tintheb0x> you're welcome MrMe01
[08:40] <r00tintheb0x> MrMe01, alternatively you can use Synaptic
[08:40] <baconbits> Hey guys
[08:40] <PurpZeY> xenex: B/C perhaps your this is not an error on your side.
[08:40] <r00tintheb0x> located in your administrator menu.
[08:40] <Jonie> has anyone seen my question?
[08:40] <r00tintheb0x> hi  baconbits
[08:41] <Jordan_U> binMonkey, wget http://vp.video.google.com/videodownload?version=0&secureurl=sQAAAEUc3qANnjIJe6jJKSz_3TVau5ab6_zcgXjEXvw6qXkNxEwcgYlDv0wa9cDp0Il7jsAOfY2GiCR3v5p1WSLx9MQnI4-Au2mSt1VxL8PiFQDbnu5FRZYJiyCfBEn_V4GHjEqpaZB_HOaxXN-2f-AXDbBRtS2tWQ6WFYnbvIjPm_vYP_T9oMzWW1Y0wYqWGLHVE3MroIQ8ZRcbub-R5KuWXouh1urcxkyayn4RYPRBMHWNMygcrVZbBk2gI2RNpnCqoQ&sigh=hXVdSPV9pxSdL_v58dhDFhaql7E&begin=0&len=41167&docid=-5579393809564907064
[08:41] <xenex> PurpZeY, it works fine on windows
[08:41] <r00tintheb0x> Jonie, i'll hook.
[08:41] <r00tintheb0x> look too
[08:41] <Enyo> r00tintheb0x: whats wrong with the deluge that is in the universe repository?
[08:41] <MrMe01> please no more this is confusing as it is
[08:41] <Jordan_U> Wow, that was longer than I expected...
[08:41] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: will gedit load in recovery mode?
[08:41] <MrMe01> berent what do you mean?
[08:41] <firebird619> I just switched the HDD I have ubuntu on to a PC with a GeForce FX 5200. When I started it up, X failed, I reconfigured X and the same happened, so I deleted xorg.conf and now do not have that file at all. What can I do to reconfigure X so it works and has a xorg.conf file?
[08:41] <Jonie> r00tintheb0x, thanks
[08:41] <berent> MrMe01 : :-D
[08:41] <meisam> hi guys, KDE and Kubuntu are same ?
[08:41] <xenex> meisam, kubuntu uses kde
[08:41] <MrMe01> please elaborate
[08:41] <berent> Jordan_U : dont spam
[08:41] <PurpZeY> xenex: I stand corrected...just a thought.
[08:41] <berent> MrMe01 : nothing just was kidding
[08:41] <igxmyzt> meisam: KDE is a desktop environment, Kubuntu uses it, while ubuntu uses gnome.
[08:41] <r00tintheb0x> Jonie, boot from cdrom into single user mode, mount /boot as read write... and move message.ubublown to grub
[08:41] <MrMe01> kk
[08:42] <MrMe01> how old are you?
[08:42] <r00tintheb0x> or / as read write.
[08:42] <berent> MrMe01 : 26
[08:42] <MrMe01> ahh
[08:42] <berent> MrMe01 : why
[08:42] <r00tintheb0x> i believe its probably a single partition.
[08:42] <Jordan_U> berent, That wasn't spam, that was just an example of a test file from a serer with known high bandwidth
[08:42] <Jonie> r00, only that way to do so?
[08:42] <MrMe01> same reason you wanted to know y age
[08:42] <berent> Jordan_U : ok
[08:42] <igxmyzt> r00tintheb0x: will gedit load in recovery mode?
[08:42] <MrMe01> your*
[08:42] <meisam> xenex so if i install kde on ubuntu meaning i have to install kubuntu as well ? kde does not work on ubuntu ?
[08:42] <berent> MrMe01 : well
[08:42] <MrMe01> none :P
[08:42] <r00tintheb0x> Jonie, if the machine isnt working... i think thats probably your only choice.
[08:42] <r00tintheb0x> igxmyzt, i dont know.
[08:42] <baconbits> Ok, so I used ndiswrapper to install the driver for my wifi card.  The tutorial I used now says to reenable my wifi via the hotkey (Which I did), then uncheck "enable networking" (Which I did), then disconnect the ethernet (Which I did), then wait a few seconds and reenable networking (Which I did).  It says the wifi light should pop on and it should let me connect to networks...instead, the wifi light just blinks off and on every
[08:42] <baconbits>  few seconds, and doesn't seem to connect to anything.  How do I make it connect?
[08:42] <binMonkey> Jordan_U: sorry to be an idiot, but it tells me forbidden, even using sudo.
[08:42] <xenex> meisam, you could install kde on ubuntu but it would be easier if you just downloaded kubuntu
[08:43] <r00tintheb0x> i've never used recovery mode.
[08:43] <igxmyzt> meisam: if you want kde, install kubuntu, if you want gnome, install ubuntu
[08:43] <MrMe01> you have a "significant other"?
[08:43] <Jonie> thanks, r00tin, i'll try your way
[08:43] <berent> no
[08:43] <MrMe01> ahh
[08:43] <MrMe01> aww
[08:43] <r00tintheb0x> Jonie, do you know how to get into single user mode?
[08:43] <PurpZeY> baconbits: Link to tutorial?
[08:43] <berent> why
[08:43] <MrMe01> I dont know
[08:43] <MrMe01> I should come here more often
[08:43] <Shaddox> Hi everyone.
[08:43] <berent> why
[08:43] <meisam> xenex ok i got it fully, but now i have ubuntu on my machine, can i add kubuntu to it as well ?
[08:43] <Jonie> r00tin, you can tell me how to get into single user mode!
[08:44] <MrMe01> sure beats the shit out of web browsing
[08:44] <Shaddox> What is the best BitTorrent software for Ubuntu?
[08:44] <berent> right
[08:44] <xenex> meisam, you wouldn't add kubuntu to it, you would add kde
[08:44] <igxmyzt> meisam: only if you have another partition or another hard drive
[08:44] <PurpZeY> meisam: yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:44] <r00tintheb0x> xenex, still looking.
[08:44] <PriceChild> !best > Shaddox (see pm from ubotu)
[08:44] <Jordan_U> binMonkey, meh, strange, it does the same for me but I just copied the download link, try one of the free bandwidth checking sites I guess
[08:44] <baconbits> PurpZeY,  give me a second, I saved the html so I could look at it offline.  I do know that the guy that made the tutorial did it with the EXACT same laptop and wifi card as me though!
[08:44] <berent> you seem to be obsessed with porn
[08:44] <PurpZeY> !offtopic
[08:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:44] <r00tintheb0x> xenex, inetd or ident.
[08:44] <Shaddox> PriceChild: Then can you tell me which ones are there instead of that? I already knew that.
[08:44] <r00tintheb0x> identify correct>?
[08:44] <MrMe01> me obsessed with porn?