[05:24] <bddebian> dabaR: If you aren't interested, you aren't interested.  You don't HAVE to :-)
[05:24] <linuxpoet> that would mean I am missing python-dev
[05:24] <linuxpoet> What does it mean with Ubuntu
[05:24] <sunrex> were do i get the drivers
[05:24] <bddebian> linuxpoet: So install python-dev
[05:24] <turkey> ok i'm having a problem connecting to the internet with ubuntu
[05:24] <Aerebus> dabar, should i follow the part about 'Adding outside repositories'?
[05:24] <dabaR> no, thats fine, you aer good now.
[05:25] <x55> Danar:  i haven't found anything worth complaining about
[05:25] <turkey> can someone PLEASE help me
[05:25] <bddebian> turkey: What is the problem?
[05:25] <dabaR> go into a terminal, and type in sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*
[05:25] <linuxpoet> thanks for the obvious ;) that worked
[05:25] <dabaR> turkey: tell more about the devices, and ISP.
[05:25] <bddebian> linuxpoet: NP :-)
[05:25] <golgor> can anyone tell me how to get root in gnome?
[05:25] <linuxpoet> gnome-terminal
[05:25] <linuxpoet> then sudo
[05:25] <dabaR> sunrex: did you say which drivers?
[05:25] <djm62> !root
[05:25] <ubotu> I guess root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:26] <golgor> i want to get root in the graphical interface
[05:26] <golgor> not in the terminal
[05:26] <Danar> i've been poking around in beep media player, and i don't see any advantages over xmms. i prefer xmms, and i see no reason to switch...
[05:26] <dabaR> golgor, I think still the site tells you.
[05:26] <sunrex> yea Sound Blaster LIBR! 24 bit..do i go to the website...or do i need special drivers from ubuntu?
[05:26] <djm62> golgor: I don't think gnome supports that
[05:26] <dabaR> it does.
[05:26] <Danar> yet apparently it's better somehow?
[05:26] <dabaR> I know exactly where in fact.
[05:27] <dabaR> golgor: why be root?
[05:27] <dabaR> in gui?
[05:27] <Danar> golgor: no you don't
[05:27] <x55> you know i hated winamp 3 on windows, and it seems thats the only release for linux, does anyone use winamp over xmms?  honestly, i just miss my shoutcast TV
[05:27] <golgor> dabaR, have to move some files and im to lazy to use the terminal
[05:27] <dabaR> ok, well disable it after, tho.
[05:27] <Aerebus> dabar, i redid apt-get install and there are three linesyou might want to see, notice or msg them to you?
[05:27] <Danar> golgor: never log in as root if you can help it. use sudo in the terminal
[05:28] <sunrex> ..were do i get the drivers......
[05:28] <dabaR> golgor: System>Admin>Login screen setup.
[05:28] <Danar> golgor: it's not a good idea to run gui apps as root
[05:28] <golgor> Danar, i have to move 2 files
[05:28] <dabaR> just disable after, tho, promise./
[05:28] <Danar> golgor: so 'mv source destination'
[05:28] <nalioth> golgor: using gui apps as root is bad, cuz some gui apps will ravage your system
[05:28] <golgor> :(
[05:28] <dabaR> Aerebus: did it install?
[05:28] <Danar> golgor: er, 'sudo mv source dest'
[05:28] <djm62> golgor: you realise you've spent longer in here talking about those two files than you would have moving them?
[05:28] <Aerebus> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:28] <Aerebus> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[05:28] <Danar> djm62: hah! :D
[05:29] <golgor> djm62, no i haven't, because i dont even know the command to move :P
[05:29] <Aerebus> oops
[05:29] <dabaR> for sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*?
[05:29] <Aerebus> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:29] <Aerebus> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[05:29] <sunrex> how do i get back the trash can...deleted it from the desktop...
[05:29] <Aerebus> balh
[05:29] <Danar> golgor: well, it's "mv"
[05:29] <golgor> Danar, thanks :P
[05:29] <dabaR> right click on a panel, add to panel, trash.
[05:29] <djm62> golgor: the command is mv.   used "mv start destination"
[05:30] <sunrex> but were do i get trash at...
[05:30] <Danar> golgor: you should look up a list of basic commands. you should at least know ls, mv, rm, mkdir, rmdir, sudo, man, grep, and so on
[05:30] <dabaR> oh from desktop?
[05:30] <dabaR> or from panel?
[05:30] <dabaR> at least grep, hey?
[05:30] <sunrex> i deleted it from desktop
[05:30] <sunrex> so were do i find it
[05:30] <golgor> Danar, haven't found any list of basic commands, haven't searched either
[05:30] <dabaR> ok, well, that is a little different.
[05:30] <dabaR> just a sec
[05:31] <Danar> dabaR: of course. it's very useful
[05:31] <Danar> golgor: well how do you expect to find one without looking?
[05:31] <dabaR> go apps>System tools>configuration editor, sunrex
[05:31] <bigfoot1> razor-x, please try mail-notification. I am able to get the applet to check my non-Gmail account, but it can't check my gmail account.
[05:31] <Trace> hello, when i used alsamixer, master and pcm is always 0, i can't up it, can anybody help me?
[05:31] <sunrex> thks
[05:31] <Danar> golgor: google.com/linux?q=~guide
[05:32] <gm78> Hey all
[05:32] <bddebian> Hello gm78
[05:32] <djm62> golgor: it's a linux thing...knowing the underlying base is occasionally useful.  if you're in the UK I can stick a reference card in an envelope
[05:32] <Danar> so no one knows any advantages of beep over xmms?
[05:32] <djm62> Danar: gtk versions are different, I think
[05:32] <dabaR> sunrex: then, go Apps>nautilus>desktop, its there.
[05:32] <IceDC571> Danar: beep is gtk2
[05:32] <nalioth> Danar: gtk2 over gtk1 (and some minor fixes)
[05:32] <djm62> Danar: and xmms is less maintained
[05:33] <Danar> djm62: does xmms _need_ to be maintained more? it plays all the audio i've put into it
[05:33] <bigfoot1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=228724&postcount=3 talks about a gDesklets gmail checker. WHere can i get this gDesklet?
[05:33] <dabaR> ya, I like xmms better, dunno, just more reliable.
[05:33] <ccc> xmms looks like 1991
[05:33] <IceDC571> Danar: they're working on xmms2 which is based on gtk2
[05:33] <dabaR> who is sending me messages all the time?
[05:33] <Danar> i like the look of xmms better. yes i got some skins for beep, but none quite like what i want
[05:33] <dabaR> ccc: true:)
[05:33] <Danar> IceDC571: sounds good :)
[05:33] <dashx> Hi guys, I have a question.
[05:33] <sunrex> thanks i got it now
[05:34] <pink-noob> Does anyone know if there is an ape and flac plugin for beep?
[05:34] <dabaR> welcome
[05:34] <djm62> Danar: if it gets bit-rot, it won't be cleaned...it's likely to get worse, even if it's ok now
[05:34] <dabaR> pink-noob: synaptic might know that.
[05:34] <x55> so i realize it would be worthwhile and educational to establish an ftp server through the terminal, but is there a good gui ftp program one could use to establish an ftp server?
[05:34] <IceDC571> pink-noob: i've found that the only flac plugin working is the one for xmms1
[05:34] <Danar> djm62: sorry?
[05:34] <dashx> I recently decided to use Ubuntu for a server box. I installed Ubuntu using "server" instead of regular install. How come it never asks me to assign a root password?
[05:34] <dabaR> establishing an ftp server is as easy as installing it
[05:34] <bddebian> dashx: Fire away, we'll answer if we can
[05:34] <pink-noob> Thanks, IceDC571.
[05:34] <bddebian> dashx: Ubuntu doesn't have root
[05:34] <bddebian> !root
[05:34] <ubotu> it has been said that root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:35] <dabaR> dashx that url will tell you .
[05:35] <djm62> Danar: for instance, if it stops playing nicely with a gcc update
[05:35] <dabaR> also the insatll told you.
[05:35] <x55> really?
[05:35] <dashx> the install never told me.
[05:35] <Danar> x55: check out vsftpd & pureftpd
[05:35] <dabaR> x55: yes, then, after that, you can connect to it using a GUI client, such as gftp
[05:35] <x55> i have them both, but the prompt still frightens my gui-lovin-ass
[05:35] <dashx> Thanks for the help guys.
[05:35] <Danar> djm62: that would only affect it if  you recompiled it
[05:35] <dabaR> you can not have two ft servers installed, so you dont.
[05:35] <Aerebus> dabar, ok i reran apt-get install and i see what it put out and there are 3 lines that might mean soemthing i dont know personally but here they are: No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. ... what do i do now?
[05:35] <x55> hehehe, pardon the language
[05:36] <djm62> Danar: if it works, great...you are free to use whatever you like.  but there are reasons not to
[05:36] <nalioth> x55 the prompt is your friend, it'll be with you after your gui says goodbye
[05:36] <dabaR> what was the apt-get install command Aerebus ?
[05:36] <sunrex> ok...now were do i get a driver update for Sound Blaster LIVE! 24 bit
[05:36] <djm62> Danar: binary incompatibility happens too, if you give it long enough
[05:36] <sunrex> i need to update it
[05:36] <dabaR> exadctly as you wrote it.
[05:36] <x55> i know, but as i said, i'm an addict to the intuitive little boxes
[05:36] <sunrex> couse it has NO sound
[05:36] <Aerebus> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-*
[05:36] <dabaR> sudo apt-get install that
[05:36] <sunrex> huh?
[05:36] <Danar> djm62: well if xmms2 is in the works i shouldn't have to worry
[05:36] <dabaR> aptitude is stupid like that(I dont know how to use it, anyhow)
[05:37] <x55> microsoft deeply implanted its vile seed within me, hahaha
[05:37] <Aerebus> sorry i said apt-get didnt i? lol well i'm new to all of this hehe
[05:37] <youth> someone said to me before that it is possible to get Photoshop 7.0 on here, but I need ..WINE, is this right?
[05:37] <Danar> Aerebus: that's slight overkill, don't you think?
[05:37] <dabaR> sunrex: it is not the driver, some other things are worng with it.
[05:37] <sunrex> all i want to know is HOW TO GET MY SOUND TO WORK lol
[05:37] <mephisto6> Any predictions on how ubuntu would work on an "antique" toshiba laptop? 810 MB HD, PII Processor 16 MB RAM, bum CD ROM
[05:37] <djm62> Danar: nobody told you to worry: you did ask what was wrong with just using xmms.  there's a lot right with it, but you didn't ask that ;)
[05:37] <nalioth> mephisto6: slowly and with a lightweight or no gui
[05:37] <sunrex> dabaR: well what can i do to fix it?
[05:38] <djm62> mephisto6: you would need to strip it down quite a lot
[05:38] <dabaR> you wrote the command different, so, did you do sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*, or aptitude?
[05:38] <Danar> youth: probably. wine is used to run windows apps on linux. there's also cedega which is oriented towards games. it's free if you compile it yourself. search cvscedega. wine should be in the repository
[05:38] <newbie> mephisto6 try damn small linux better
[05:38] <dabaR> sunrex: you can ask crimsun for help when he is here.
[05:38] <Aerebus> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-*
[05:38] <ultrahex> has anyone got Ventrilo to output on Linux?
[05:38] <Aerebus> thats what i used
[05:38] <youth> Ooh. I already started wine lol
[05:38] <Danar> djm62: i know. ;)
[05:38] <dabaR> ok, please do the apt-get instead, that will work.
[05:38] <djm62> mephisto6: it would take some skill to get ubuntu to be nice on that hardware
[05:38] <nalioth> mephisto6: i recommend the server install of ubuntu on the lappy
[05:38] <youth> I just wanted to know if that would help me
[05:38] <sunrex> well i got vidio to run...so at least i know that works =/
[05:38] <Aerebus> sudo apt-get  install gstreamer0.8-*  ?
[05:38] <nalioth> mephisto6: at that poing you can learn what kind of gui to put on it
[05:39] <mephisto6> nalioth: djm62: newbie: I was thinkin' dmsl. Will probably fix the cdrom to make it somewhat easier...
[05:39] <dabaR> yes, Aerebus ,
[05:39] <Danar> youth: no reason not to have both. sometimes one will run something the other doesn't
[05:39] <sunrex> brb all
[05:39] <Aerebus> ok its doing its thing
[05:39] <youth> Danar; OKay. Thank you :D
[05:39] <dabaR> aptitude does not work with the asterisks that way, I did not read the manual to learn how to do that.
[05:39] <nalioth> mephisto6: dsl is very screwed, as far as upgradeablity goes
[05:39] <Danar> youth: wine is more for general apps, cedega for games
[05:39] <mephisto6> nalioth: *laughs* server. maybe wifi backpack to go with?
[05:39] <nalioth> mephisto6: dsl is put together for compact size, not user upgradeability
[05:39] <mephisto6> nalioth: knoppix to test the waters, perhaps?
[05:40] <youth> Danar; Oooh. I don't play games so I won't worry about cedega.
[05:40] <djm62> mephisto6: liveCDs like memory
[05:40] <nalioth> mephisto6: how bout ubuntu live cd?
[05:40] <Moppin> nalioth, I agree, DSL HDD is a pain to upgrade
[05:40] <dabaR> x55: really, I am telling you, for an ftp server, just run sudo aptitude install proftpd(or whatever else you want
[05:40] <dabaR> )
[05:40] <youth> Danar; but my mom does get on here to play games on line.. games.com or whatever, and they won't play, do you know what I need to do to get them to?
[05:40] <mephisto6> nalioth: 810 mb hd sounds compact. think?
[05:40] <Danar> youth: nonetheless, some general windows apps are more graphical, and will only work in cedega
[05:40] <dabaR> and then after that, dont touch the server, just sonnect to it using gui clients.
[05:40] <Danar> youth: the ones that play in the browser?
[05:40] <ultrahex> Ventrilo.... any able to make it output or do i need to install anything ?
[05:40] <youth> danar; yes
[05:40] <djm62> mephisto6: there are floppy distros (even with graphics)
[05:40] <Danar> youth: get the flash & java plugins
[05:40] <dabaR> youth: java likely.
[05:40] <mephisto6> nalioth: djm62: will have to replace internal cdrom first
[05:40] <Danar> youth: you use firefox right?
[05:40] <Aerebus> dabar, it says E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[05:41] <Danar> dabaR: both, likely
[05:41] <youth> danar; yeah.
[05:41] <nalioth> mephisto6: here you go: www.linuxfromscratch.org
[05:41] <Danar> youth: yeh, there's a plugins faq on mozdev.org
[05:41] <djm62> mephisto6: the last time I saw a laptop that light running linux it was being used as a graphic equaliser with blackbox at a gig
[05:41] <youth> danar; thank you! i'll go check that out. and i'll probably be backl ol
[05:41] <Danar> youth: google firefox plugins, and you should find it
[05:41] <youth> k :D!
[05:41] <dabaR> wow, Aerebus do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and replace everything there with what is here: http://www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list
[05:41] <mephisto6> nalioth: I looked at that sight. Will take many moons at my skill level. but worth the experience methinks
[05:41] <Danar> youth: java can be a bit of a pain though, so pay attention :p
[05:41] <qt2> woot \o/
[05:42] <dabaR> Then, sudo aptitude update, and then the apt-get again.
[05:42] <youth> danar; euw :// kkz!
[05:42] <Danar> youth: uh... huh? lol
[05:42] <youth> danar; nothing O_o
[05:42] <Danar> heh
[05:42] <djm62> mephisto6: actually, you could get debian, and install blackbox or fluxbox, links, and emacs
[05:43] <dabaR> qt2: do mount, find the /dev/hd** of your gentoo partition, then tell me the fs type, and the /dev/hd**
[05:43] <dabaR> mount in a terminal and enter.
[05:43] <dabaR> no
[05:43] <mephisto6> djm62:  take it easy on the noob here. baby steps for me. I'm still in process on fiddling w/ 10 old boxes I scored from work, gratis. Gonna put linux variants on 'em all that still work and see what happens.
[05:43] <nalioth> mephisto6: actually it is well written
[05:43] <dabaR> sudo fdisk -l
[05:43] <Aerebus> dabar, itsdone
[05:43] <Imsdle> @#$@##$@ arrrggg damn evolution.. it has crashed and now won't start.. it just trys to open and my hard disk goes bizerk.. any ideas?
[05:43] <dabaR> Aerebus: now mp3s have to play.
[05:44] <rincewynd> arghhh why cant Totem Movie player play mmmoooooviieess?! *cry*
[05:44] <mephisto6> nalioth: djm62: copying and pasting recommendations as quickly as possible........Many thanks!!!!
[05:44] <djm62> nalioth: would he be as well doing a really basic debian install?
[05:44] <nalioth> djm62: on the small laptop? probably
[05:44] <dabaR> rincewynd: what does it do, that is needed to know why it does not do what you would like it to, tell us the error message.
[05:44] <djm62> debian is frugal by default :-/
[05:45] <nalioth> mephisto6: you must be more specific, c/p where to what?
[05:45] <mephisto6> *taking notes* nalioth: djm62:
[05:45] <Aerebus> dabar, oh after sudo aptitude update i run sudo apt-get update (again)?
[05:45] <nalioth> djm62: he can use a netinst floppy debian and start from there
[05:45] <dabaR> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*
[05:45] <Danar> rincewynd: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins totem-gstreamer
[05:45] <mephisto6> suggestions given from here to a plain text file to pour over later
[05:45] <punkrockguy318> how can I get the differences between two $file commands?
[05:45] <Danar> rincewynd: do that ^ and it will work
[05:45] <nalioth> djm62: of course he'd have a system with a kernel and apt-get only, lol
[05:45] <djm62> nalioth: worked for me, many moons ago, although it looks like he has CD not floppy
[05:45] <nalioth> mephisto6: enable logging in your irc client
[05:46] <mephisto6> nalioth: bustin' my balls for synaptic after your very own suggestion........*laughs*
[05:46] <nalioth> djm62: the netinst comes in cd and floppy images
[05:46] <nalioth> mephisto6: no big thing, bubba
[05:46] <djm62> nalioth: the equation being 14 windows CDs >> 3 'Potato' floppies
[05:46] <nalioth> we are always here
[05:46] <MrBiscuit> How do you connect using dialup with the terminal?
[05:46] <Imsdle> any ideas for evolution crashing
[05:46] <djm62> s/CD/floppie/
[05:46] <nalioth> djm62: or one mini-cd
[05:46] <Danar> Imsdle: switch to thunderbird? :p
[05:47] <Danar> Imsdle: reinstall?
[05:47] <mephisto6> nalioth: logging, yes. done. damn, this lernin' stuff is fun!
[05:47] <Danar> Imsdle: give the error in an irc chat room?
[05:47] <Imsdle> i tried to reinstall
[05:47] <nalioth> Danar: you should recommend wiping the .evolution dir first (or moving it somehwere other than your homedir, or renaming it)
[05:47] <djm62> nalioth: potato was before I had a CD drive, and that limitation was why I didn't reinstall windows (_from_floppies_)
[05:47] <Imsdle> what is the prefered program?
[05:47] <Aerebus> dabar, i ran sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* --fix-missing
[05:48] <dabaR> again?
[05:48] <qt2> well wtf, when i try to do the 'su -' command, it asks for the password, i enter the one i gave during install, and it says it failed...
[05:48] <Aerebus> relog into X?
[05:48] <Danar> nalioth: reinstalling shouldn't affecting anything... should it?
[05:48] <Danar> nalioth: just the binaries and stuff
[05:48] <dabaR> qt2: it is disabled.
[05:48] <qt2> why? o.O;
[05:48] <Danar> Imsdle: for email?
[05:48] <nalioth> Danar: Imsdle try renaming your .evolution folder in your home directory
[05:48] <dabaR> qt2: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/rootsudo will tell you.
[05:48] <qt2> how do i use the mount command then... :o
[05:48] <carl> I have a ide/ext2 fs drive in a usb case - I turn it on, and dmesg says:  scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery:
[05:49] <Danar> nalioth: oh, you mean before reinstalling. heh. haven't used evolution in a long time
[05:49] <dabaR> sudo fdisk -l please, and tell me what partition is the gentoo one. I mean, what it tells you about it, anyhow...
[05:49] <carl> I would like to try to fsck it, but I can't figure out what /dev it is... how do I tell?
[05:49] <nalioth> Danar: yes, its easier to rename the .evolution, and if that is it, he can start over with a new one
[05:49] <Aerebus> dabar, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* --fix-missing did the trick thankyou its working now :)
[05:49] <DekaPink> I'm on Ubuntu... Woohoo. :D
[05:50] <dabaR> Aerebus: good stuff, glad to hear that.
[05:50] <mephisto6> nalioth: djm62: got this error during upgrading with synaptic: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/curl/curl_7.12.3-2ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:50] <mephisto6>   MD5Sum mismatch
[05:50] <mephisto6> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgii/libgii0_0.8.5-2_i386.deb
[05:50] <mephisto6>   MD5Sum mismatch
[05:50] <mephisto6> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libggi/libggi2_2.0.5-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[05:50] <Imsdle> there is no error.. it just sits there with the evolution window not loaded proberly trying to open somehting and my hard disk goes flat out
[05:50] <mephisto6>   MD5Sum mismatch
[05:50] <eno> what is xwindows in relation to kde and gnome?
[05:50] <dabaR> mephisto6: remove the us. from the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:50] <djm62> eno: it lies underneath both
[05:50] <eno> right ;) thanks.
[05:50] <nalioths_dog> mephisto6: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:50] <eno> I am a noobie by the way
[05:50] <nalioths_dog> mephisto6: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[05:50] <djm62> eno: it is the blackboard, they are the diagrams
[05:51] <mephisto6> dabaR: thanks. am trying..............
[05:51] <nalioth> mephisto6: follow the dogs leads
[05:51] <Danar> eno: xwindows provides graphical type stuff. kde & gnome do window management
[05:51] <dabaR> whats with the dog, nalioth?:)
[05:51] <Danar> eno: that's why they're called window managers :p
[05:51] <bigfoot1> i'm downloading a deb file. how do i install it?
[05:51] <nalioth> dabaR: i'm tired of explaining the wonky repos
[05:51] <bddebian> bigfoot1: dpkg -i
[05:51] <djm62> eno: eventually you will understand why it's called a "server"...then your soul will be lost ;)
[05:51] <eno> Danar: oh thanks :P
[05:51] <Owl^> run the exe file?
[05:51] <dabaR> bigfoot1: dpkg -i package.deb, but, it may not work.
[05:51] <bigfoot1> dabaR, why not?
[05:51] <dabaR> cause its not a ubuntu package.
[05:52] <Danar> eno: if in doubt, check the man pages (aka, RTFM)
[05:52] <eno> dmj62: you're scaring me
[05:52] <eno> so I can't ask conceptual type questions on this channel?
[05:52] <djm62> eno: it's an old, old system with some odd nooks about it, but it has lasted well
[05:52] <IceDC571> i remember the first time i used mandrake.. my mouse cursor was an X the whole time, they didnt want to change it
[05:52] <nalioth> eno: ask away
[05:52] <dabaR> eno: ask anything, maybe you wont get an answer, tho.
[05:52] <Owl^> and search the package for viruses
[05:52] <bigredjoe1310> i can't change my screen resolution thru the regular means, is there any way to do it in terminal
[05:52] <bigfoot1> so not all deb stuff work in ubuntu? i thought they were related?
[05:52] <eno> I thought so.  I have found this to be the friendliest linux channel on irc
[05:52] <sunrex> GREAT i dont got sound...OK I CAN LIVE WITH THAT FOR AWHILE...i put in a dvd...nothing runs accept Xine.....then when it does run it has all these weird colors....its like a fuzzy TV accept with gaps showing some of the picture..
[05:52] <quantux> X draws the windows, kde and gnome decorate and manage them
[05:53] <dabaR> !resolution
[05:53] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:53] <nalioth> quantux: wonderful description
[05:53] <sunrex> *slaps head*
[05:53] <djm62> eno: the X server is the only application which touches the screen.  All other programs tell X what to draw
[05:53] <eno> so could I save memory if I didn't run gnome, or do I need it?
[05:53] <IceDC571> to tell you the truth.. X does nothing.. it just crashes gnome for fun
[05:53] <Owl^> big, you can chance resolution via regedit
[05:53] <Danar> Owl^: viruses? heh
[05:53] <nalioth> eno: a definite savings of memory
[05:53] <MrBiscuit> Ummm im having trouble connecting via dialup. It just sits at the logging onto network window and won't do anything else
[05:53] <eno> haha
[05:53] <nalioth> Owl^: regedit?
[05:54] <dabaR> Owl^: what are you speaking of?
[05:54] <eno> so how can I change my window manager?
[05:54] <djm62> eno: if you /just/ ran X. (and you can do this) you'd get a mouse pointer and a blank screen with grey hatching
[05:54] <sunrex> personaly....im just wondering if this Lunix is worth it or if i sould just go and buy one...would it be A.better for awhile or B.better in the long run..
[05:54] <Danar> sunrex: might need libdvdcss2
[05:54] <dabaR> fir run the exe, then viruses, now regedit...
[05:54] <eno> I have seen that before, it is infiuriating
[05:54] <IceDC571> eno: i think its a little too early for that.. whatever you do, dont change it to kde
[05:54] <sunrex> Danar: libdvdcss2?
[05:54] <stanford> How do I install a downloaded theme?
[05:54] <Danar> eno: edit your .xinitrc file
[05:55] <dabaR> !info libdvdcss2
[05:55] <djm62> eno: otherwise, when you login you can change the "session" before you put in your name and password
[05:55] <eno> why can't I change to kde?
[05:55] <IceDC571> stanford: go to the themes dialog and just drag the package into the window
[05:55] <Danar> sunrex: it may be because the dvd is encrypted...
[05:55] <djm62> eno: and you can change to anything you like
[05:55] <sunrex> Danar oohh LOL
[05:55] <stanford> idedc571 ok thanks
[05:55] <stanford> icedc571*
[05:55] <Owl^> well...we were speaking of the screen resolution...you can change it easili vie regedit...(just run search for screen resolution)
[05:55] <dabaR> stanford: for gnome? go check out the faqs at art.gnome.org
[05:55] <MrBiscuit> KDE is pretty :-D
[05:55] <bddebian> heh
[05:55] <djm62> eno: I have a soft spot for blackbox and fluxbox as window managers
[05:55] <sunrex> Danar: so were i get that
[05:55] <Owl^> *easily
[05:55] <eno> so if I go into re-whatever mode from grub, could I intialize an X server from the root prompt?
[05:55] <qt2> dabaR, /deb/hda3       /mnt/gentoo     reiserfs        noatime                           0   1
[05:55] <qt2> ;)
[05:56] <nalioth> MrBiscuit: KDE is pretty resource hungry
[05:56] <dabaR> qt2: :)
[05:56] <Danar> sunrex: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[05:56] <MrBiscuit> It's not that bad
[05:56] <IceDC571> kde is like an ugly Qt gone for a face lift and a lot of surgery
[05:56] <nalioth> MrBiscuit: not on a modern system
[05:56] <sunrex> Danar: thanks, ill tell you if it works or not
[05:56] <eno> my system is far from modern
[05:56] <djm62> eno: just log out of gnome without shutting down, but make sure you have installed some of the other window managers
[05:56] <dabaR> sunrex: he already knows it works:)
[05:56] <Danar> sunrex: if not, try the codecs
[05:56] <MrBiscuit> I bought my system... 6 months ago.. maybe thats why
[05:57] <Danar> heh
[05:57] <johntramp> hey I installed ubuntu on a pc with a 21" monitor and it set the resolution to something like 1280x1024 and now I have it running on a smaller monitor which cant handle that resolution.  Is there a way to have ubuntu reconfigure itself for this new monitor or do I have to edit config files by hand?
[05:57] <djm62> then you can log back in with other ones, and decide what you like about them
[05:57] <eno> then what do I do?
[05:57] <sunrex> Danar: root@Darkworks:/home/tyler #  sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[05:57] <sunrex> Reading package lists... Done
[05:57] <sunrex> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:57] <sunrex> libdvdcss2 is already the newest version.
[05:57] <sunrex> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[05:57] <sunrex>  ..
[05:57] <dabaR> Danar: oh, that wont work without backports.
[05:57] <sunrex> ?
[05:57] <dabaR> johntramp: yes, hoary?
[05:57] <Owl^> just use windows and be happy...(and curse all the errors)
[05:57] <johntramp> dabaR: yes
[05:57] <MrBiscuit> nalioth? Do you know anything about PPP connections
[05:57] <IceDC571> johntramp: you'll have to edit xorg.conf and type in your LCD frequencies
[05:57] <johntramp> IceDC571: its not lcd
[05:57] <nalioth> MrBiscuit: sorry, i use broadband, and havent used a modem in years
[05:58] <IceDC571> oh.. i mean monitor
[05:58] <MrBiscuit> Oh ok
[05:58] <dabaR> johntramp: well, I used this, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it is a little funny, cause it asks you all these things, but I enter through it except for the resolution part, youll see.
[05:58] <Owl^> heh, modem...what's that?
[05:58] <MrBiscuit> Lives 1800 feet from DSL *curses phone company!
[05:58] <sunrex> Owl^: no thanks, it cost me almost 200$ on just things to fix viriuses spyware and firewall
[05:58] <nalioth> johntramp: if taht doesnt work, come back and talk to me
[05:58] <djm62> eno: and try to get a shot of ssh X-forwarding...
[05:58] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: get a cable modem
[05:58] <IceDC571> :)
[05:58] <johntramp> ok thanks dabaR
[05:58] <djm62> eno: you might not need it, but it surely is cool
[05:58] <dabaR> MrBiscuit: I know it stands for point to point protocol
[05:58] <dabaR> welcome
[05:59] <MrBiscuit> Lives 30.2 miles from nearest cable line
[05:59] <sunrex> Danar: no it didint work
[05:59] <dabaR> sunrex: go read the following page.
[05:59] <eno> so if I have ssh can I log into my linux box at home from my crippled windows terminal pizza box at work?
[05:59] <dabaR> !restrictedformats
[05:59] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: lol, where the hell do you live?
[05:59] <Owl^> sunrex, there are plenty of free @virus softwares, (too bad they are almost useless)
[05:59] <ubotu> I guess restrictedformats is ""https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats"", or codecs
[05:59] <Danar> sunrex: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2
[05:59] <nalioth> eno: yes
[05:59] <bddebian> eno: Yes, use Putty
[05:59] <eno> awesome (H)
[05:59] <MrBiscuit> Sticks!
[05:59] <sunrex> thks..
[05:59] <djm62> eno: yeah, but windows doesn't run X-window-system
[05:59] <mephisto6> ok, next "technical" question. best way to get my ubuntu box recognized by my two Win xp boxen?
[06:00] <bddebian> djm62: Well it "can"
[06:00] <eno> I could get to a command prompt though?
[06:00] <MrBiscuit> Does anyone here remember what "Dialup" means?
[06:00] <Danar> sunrex: download that, extract it to /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[06:00] <djm62> bddebian: yeah, his work one definitely doesn't though
[06:00] <MrBiscuit> Or still uses it
[06:00] <djm62> eno: yep
[06:00] <bddebian> eno: Yes
[06:00] <bddebian> djm62: Good point :-)
[06:00] <Danar> sunrex: there's a readme file in there too though
[06:00] <sunrex> Windows sucks...im going to do this...wait till longhorn comes out...or just buy one of the best lunix system
[06:00] <MrBiscuit> Longhorn... heh
[06:00] <Owl^> dialup...was it something from the 80s?
[06:01] <MrBiscuit> Just another resource hog
[06:01] <Danar> sunrex: longhorn will just be even more evil :p
[06:01] <Owl^> heh
[06:01] <nalioth> eno: yes ssh is kewl
[06:01] <dabaR> sunrex: this is a good enough one, you just want to be spoon fed.
[06:01] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: i think dialup is when your hardware screams orgasms thru the phone line to connect to the internet
[06:01] <djm62> eno: you can have good fun getting it to talk to your SO if he/she's at home
[06:01] <sunrex> Danar: i know....but im sick of having to code lunix to =/
[06:01] <Danar> sunrex: IMO, ubuntu is "one of the best" linux distros
[06:01] <MrBiscuit> Hmmm
[06:01] <sunrex> i know i want to be spoon fed =)
[06:01] <MrBiscuit> I could use dialup fine without KDE
[06:01] <MrBiscuit> But when i got it im not sure where to go
[06:01] <Danar> sunrex: have you heard of ansi? cross-platform code
[06:01] <dabaR> who had a question above, I was gonna answer it
[06:01] <eno> djm62: yeah I could install one of those talker programs and make it say things :P
[06:02] <sunrex> Danar: um...no
[06:02] <IceDC571> html is cross platform
[06:02] <IceDC571> what if it wasnt :)
[06:02] <djm62> eno: I went with "why won't you stop playing solitaire?"  MrBiscuit use kde for cygwin while you're at it ;)
[06:04] <sunrex> Danar: no nothing like that...i just got about 50 games that dont support Lunix =/
[06:04] <nalioth> MrBiscuit: how powerful a system do you have?
[06:04] <Danar> trung: ah. that work out?
[06:04] <dabaR> That was a stupid sentence - mine above about m$
[06:04] <Danar> sunrex: that's what cedega is for
[06:04] <ColonelKernel> alrighty gonna give ubuntu a shot, wish me luck
[06:04] <Danar> sunrex: google cvscedega
[06:04] <|QuaD-> dabaR: they have though
[06:04] <MrBiscuit> nalioth: P4 @ 3.00 ghz w/ ht 512 DDR ram 200 GB HD
[06:04] <sunrex> Danar: i dont got a credit card thou.
[06:04] <Danar> sunrex: don't need one. google cvscedega
[06:05] <dabaR> |QuaD-: checked the sources.list to see if you changed the names right?
[06:05] <regeya> I found the solution to my rhythmbox problem.  it was stupid.  in the toplevel dir of my music dir, there was a file named .directory.  deleting that fixed everything.  no kidding.
[06:05] <IceDC571> i think ive seen ColonelKernel before, think he was a fedora user
[06:05] <dabaR> I mean, /topic
[06:05] <|QuaD-> dabaR: i have been using this since before the transition
[06:05] <dabaR> |QuaD-: you are about to break your system you know this, right?
[06:05] <eno> dmj62: do I use an output redirector to use festival, or how do I do that?
[06:05] <IceDC571> oh god, is someone upgrading to breezy again?
[06:05] <|QuaD-> dabaR: why?
[06:06] <|QuaD-> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/452
[06:06] <nalioth> MrBiscuit: you can use qemu
[06:06] <bigfoot1> does galeon work with Mozilla Extensions?
[06:06] <dabaR> |QuaD-: its not released...
[06:06] <djm62> eno: I can't remember the exact incantation, I think /usr/share/doc/festival/ has a quick-start guide inside it
[06:06] <MrBiscuit> qemu? What for?
[06:06] <|QuaD-> dabaR: i have been fine, it is fine
[06:06] <IceDC571> ack.. dont use qemu on a low end system
[06:06] <|QuaD-> just can't figure out this
[06:06] <MrBiscuit> *Wonders if he could emulate a broadband connection...
[06:06] <IceDC571> i had to learn the hard way
[06:06] <eno> thank you again
[06:06] <djm62> eno: in general, there are some goodies to be found in /usr/share/doc/<packagename>
[06:06] <dabaR> ok, good then, what is your question then?
[06:06] <|QuaD-> dabaR: why are soo many packages held back
[06:06] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: tried Netzero 3G? lol
[06:06] <nalioth> MrBiscuit: run winduhs and linux simultaneously
[06:06] <|QuaD-> that shouldn't be happeneing
[06:06] <sunrex> Danar: there is no folder called Codecs on lib
[06:07] <dabaR> so. you have breezy already?
[06:07] <|QuaD-> dabaR: yeah
[06:07] <MrBiscuit> Lol, Netzero 3G... That's like a really stupid piece of crap
[06:07] <qt2> does ubuntu use gdm?
[06:07] <eno> thanks I didn't know about that
[06:07] <Danar> sunrex: then make it: mkdir
[06:07] <trung> Danar, yes swap's size causes problem
[06:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> qt2: yes
[06:07] <djm62> eno: for X stuff, you're best to learn by playing...I'm off to bed now, have fun
[06:07] <MrBiscuit> So is AOL, MSN(gofigure) and all that other junk
[06:07] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: really? you might be fooled into thinking... its broadband... la la la
[06:07] <sunrex> danar: you mean make a folder called mkdir in lib?
[06:07] <MrBiscuit> Ha
[06:07] <MrBiscuit> Its just another image compresser that looks pretty
[06:07] <Danar> sunrex: no, i mean use mkdir to make a folder called codecs
[06:07] <dabaR>  ubuntu.pastebin.nl?
[06:08] <qt2> Kamping_Kaiser, so i can get kde from synaptic, and select it for use in gdm?
[06:08] <qt2> Kamping_Kaiser, or xfce?
[06:08] <dabaR> qt2: yes
[06:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> qt2 yes, click on sesions
[06:08] <sunrex> DanaR: lol...what is mkdir...im in the lib folder now
[06:08] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: try netzero for 30 days and receive free AOL trial for 5000 hours, plus a bonus enter to win fantastic 4 sweepstakes
[06:08] <dabaR> |QuaD-: was it ubuntu.pastebin.nl?
[06:08] <MrBiscuit> Lol, i have Juno thank you very much..
[06:09] <Danar> sunrex: that much should be obvious after my last comment. mkdir is the command to make a dir(ectory) :p
[06:09] <flask-> hey I'm getting a bunch of md5 checksum errors while using apt on ubuntu... there's a couple threads about it on the forums but it seems like a lot of them are going reported and unfixed for days... anyone else running into these?
[06:09] <|QuaD-> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/452
[06:09] <qt2> heh, except that there's no xfce in the default ubuntu repositories...
[06:09] <nalioth> flask-: the repos are wonky atm
[06:09] <MrBiscuit> Plus AOL is a resource hog, and Netzero partnered with Juno and stole all of their technologies
[06:09] <Danar> sunrex: in lib, run mkdir codecs
[06:09] <nalioths_dog> flask-: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[06:09] <flask-> nalioth: that's a shame... what's the sitch?
[06:09] <sunrex> DanaR: *slaps head* been away from ubuntu for awhile lol
[06:09] <nalioth> flask-: match your sources.list to the one the dog sent
[06:09] <MrBiscuit> Juno was like the first 1 gig of mail space, first dialup accelerator... etc etc
[06:09] <IceDC571> www.os-works.com has the latest xfce packages
[06:09] <mephisto6> flask: follow the dog......
[06:10] <dabaR> |QuaD-: dist-upgrade.
[06:10] <dabaR> but, I hope your system survives it:)
[06:10] <|QuaD-> dabaR: dist-upgrade removes too much
[06:10] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: i havent heard of juno for years
[06:10] <```bulldogg> hello
[06:10] <Owl^> hi
[06:10] <sunrex> DanaR: ok one how do i run MKdir 2.i tried to do it manualy....it wont let me
[06:10] <Danar> sunrex: here's a tip: use tab completion, both in irc and in the terminal
[06:10] <NoHope> hi all.
[06:10] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: where do you live?
[06:10] <Danar> sunrex: i didn't say MKdir. i said mkdir
[06:10] <dabaR> |QuaD-: well, then, man apt-get or something, I reallydont know, maybe there is a way to force everything,
[06:10] <MrBiscuit> Mountainous area of Virginia
[06:10] <Danar> sunrex: linux is case sensitive
[06:10] <flask-> mephisto6: and then just an apt-get update ?
[06:10] <NoHope> Hey, what is the ubuntu initialization script?
[06:11] <IceDC571> NoHope: hi, i'm hi, i'm hi.. i'm hi.. i'm hi.. hi..
[06:11] <sunrex> Danar: but how do i make it lol
[06:11] <```bulldogg> I would like to install this distro.... however it does not like my sata drive and I don't have the ability to disable the SATA on my Dell Dimension 4700 can anyone help?
[06:11] <mephisto6> yes or can use synaptic; also recommended by nalioth to me
[06:11] <Danar> sunrex:  you are in lib, right?
[06:11] <Danar> sunrex: run this: sudo mkdir codecs
[06:11] <NoHope> Do you know what is the ubuntu initialization script?
[06:11] <sunrex> Danar: im new to lunix..so im not sure...yes im in it
[06:11] <IceDC571> excuse me but why is hurricane daniels the main operator in this channel?
[06:11] <flask-> bulldogg: i have a dell 4700 at work, to get it to work under Gentoo I had to set the SATA controller to some kind of legacy mode in the BIOS
[06:12] <dabaR> IceDC571: what?
[06:12] <sunrex> Danar: wait u mean from terminal?
[06:12] <bddebian> ```bulldogg: Why doesn't it like the SATA drive?
[06:12] <dabaR> sunrex: yes
[06:12] <Danar> sunrex: yes... lol
[06:12] <MrBiscuit> Gesundheit!
[06:12] <```bulldogg> I don't have that option in my bios.....
[06:12] <flask-> bulldogg: it's in there, you just gotta look for it
[06:12] <```bulldogg> it says it can't find a partitional media
[06:12] <Danar> sunrex: how else are you gonna run commands? :p
[06:12] <dabaR> open terminal, type in cd /usr/lib was it?
[06:12] <IceDC571> partitional media? lol
[06:12] <freddy> hello!!!
[06:12] <Danar>  /usr/local/lib
[06:12] <IceDC571> freddy: welcome back
[06:12] <IceDC571> freddy: i want your cat
[06:12] <```bulldogg> I have auto or disable and disable says it won't see the drive
[06:12] <nalioth> ```bulldogg: is your drive mounted right now?
[06:12] <freddy> what is up man?
[06:12] <IceDC571> not much
[06:12] <dabaR> freddy: hi/
[06:13] <MrBiscuit> DOES ANYONE IN HERE USE DIALUP!?!
[06:13] <freddy> IceDC571, my cat? lol wtf?
[06:13] <IceDC571> we have new newbs
[06:13] <Danar> sunrex: so, 'cd /usr/local/lib' then 'sudo mkdir codecs'
[06:13] <sunrex> Danar: *SIGH* great...how do i open it up to that now =/ i mean what do i type to get there..
[06:13] <Xyc0> What is the graphical boot up project for gentoo called?
[06:13] <Danar> sunrex: you don't know how to get to a terminal?
[06:13] <sunrex> Danar: no i know lol
[06:13] <dabaR> Xyc0: /join #gentoo
[06:13] <sunrex> Danar: u just anserd my question
[06:13] <Danar> sunrex: what do you propose to type to get to a terminal, which is where  you type commands in the first place? :p should be right on the menu
[06:14] <IceDC571> lol.. for all your gentoo needs, ask us
[06:14] <Danar> heh
[06:14] <IceDC571> ebuild-myass
[06:14] <freddy> IceDC571, what cat man? lol
[06:14] <Xyc0> dabaR: Its an ubuntu project too
[06:14] <dabaR> he is high, he said.
[06:14] <MrBiscuit> *Here kitty kitty kitty....
[06:14] <IceDC571> ohhh
[06:14] <dabaR> Xyc0: dunno.
[06:14] <IceDC571> Xyc0: you mean splashy?
[06:14] <sunrex> Danar: we are all newbs at some point ok :P
[06:14] <freddy> i couldnt get splashy werking :(
[06:14] <dabaR> ok
[06:15] <sunrex> Danar: ok so now just copy and paist the folder right
[06:15] <Danar> sunrex: yeh. i've said that before. :)
[06:15] <nalioth> freddy: open a terminal and see a man about a cat
[06:15] <Danar> sunrex: er, no.
[06:15] <bddebian> MrBiscuit: My guess would be the answer is no, unfortunately
[06:15] <sunrex> Danar: ..
[06:15] <MrBiscuit> ....
[06:15] <Danar> sunrex: you shouldn't have permissions to the folder. still got that terminal window?
[06:15] <Xyc0> FBSplash, thanks IceDC571
[06:15] <freddy> nalioth, IceDC571 said "i want your cat"
[06:15] <sunrex> Danar: yes :P
[06:15] <MrBiscuit> .....*eaten
[06:15] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: sorry... i tried using Xine again and it blew up...
[06:16] <dabaR> wow, blew up.
[06:16] <trung> how update xchat to 2.4.3 ? i run software update but has no entry for it?
[06:16] <Danar> sunrex: k, go to ~ or wherever you put the file you downloaded
[06:16] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: amd64 users have lots of trouble with some things
[06:16] <MidNightRaVeN> yea.... kaboom...
[06:16] <Imsdle> my evoluiton has crashed.. can anyone tell me where the emails are stored?
[06:16] <sunrex> i put it on desktop..
[06:16] <MrBiscuit> Boom Boom
[06:16] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: you may wish to reinstall with an x86 arch
[06:16] <IceDC571> i dont think xine is good for just sound..
[06:16] <Imsdle> i need to back then up then reintall evolution
[06:16] <bddebian> OK gang, I have to get to bed, gotta catch a flight in the morning.  Take care and enjoy!
[06:16] <nalioth> Imsdle: ~/.evolution
[06:16] <MidNightRaVeN> how do i install with a x86 arch?
[06:17] <sunrex> Danar: so... CD /home/desktop/thename?
[06:17] <IceDC571> bddebian: Scooby dooby doo!!
[06:17] <bddebian> :-)
[06:17] <dabaR> bddebian: see ya.
[06:17] <Danar> sunrex: ok, 'cd ~/.desktop/'
[06:17] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: d/l a x86 install cd
[06:17] <MrBiscuit> Nalioth, qemu, where do i find that at
[06:17] <MidNightRaVeN> damnit lol
[06:17] <dabaR> why the .?
[06:17] <Imsdle> what does ~/. mean?
[06:17] <Danar> sunrex: er, ~/Desktop
[06:17] <IceDC571> because its hidden, just like my face
[06:17] <IceDC571> oh
[06:17] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: that means I'm gonna have to switch over to XP...
[06:17] <dabaR> ~/Desktop
[06:17] <Danar> Imsdle: ~ = home dir
[06:17] <trung> how update xchat to 2.4.3 ? i run software update but has no entry for it?
[06:17] <dabaR> who is hidden, desktop?
[06:18] <MrBiscuit> Xp... two evil letters....
[06:18] <sunrex> Danar: cd ~/Desktop/all-29950412.bz2_FILES ?
[06:18] <MidNightRaVeN> lol
[06:18] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: Athlon XP :)
[06:18] <eno> thanks for your help people, I will be back for more later :P
[06:18] <dabaR> trung: check backports if they have the version.
[06:18] <MrBiscuit> Well
[06:18] <MrBiscuit> Ok sorta kinda evil letters
[06:18] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: think that'll make everything pretty much go away compared to now?
[06:18] <dabaR> eXtreme Programming.
[06:18] <Danar> sunrex: you can't cd into a file. cd = change directory
[06:18] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: ask for opinons in here, i'm by far not the smartest fella
[06:18] <sunrex> Danar: oh....LOL
[06:18] <Imsdle> there is nothing in my home directory other then the user folder
[06:19] <Danar> sunrex: cd ~/Desktop
[06:19] <trung> dabaR, what is backports?
[06:19] <dabaR> ask ubotu
[06:19] <egi> imsdle: try show hidden files
[06:19] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: the x86 arches are far more developed than amd64
[06:19] <MidNightRaVeN> has anyone messed with amd64 a lot and found that x86_64 is worse or better than just x86 on it???
[06:19] <IceDC571> MidNightRaVeN: what are you trying to accomplish?
[06:19] <trung> ubotu, what is backports?
[06:19] <ubotu> trung: what are you talking about?
[06:19] <sunrex> Danar: root@Darkworks:/usr/local/lib # cd ~/Desktop
[06:19] <sunrex> bash: cd: /root/Desktop: No such file or directory
[06:19] <dabaR> !backports
[06:19] <ubotu> well, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[06:19] <sunrex> Danar: your talking to a almost 100% newb here remember lol
[06:19] <Danar> sunrex: then, sudo tar -jxvf filname /usr/local/codecs/
[06:19] <MidNightRaVeN> IceDC571: a solid OS that I can watch DVDs, browse, download, etc etc
[06:20] <Danar> sunrex: oh, you're root already. forget sudo then
[06:20] <Imsdle> found it
[06:20] <Imsdle> thanks
[06:20] <IceDC571> MidNightRaVeN: so whats your problem?
[06:20] <nalioth> !info backports
[06:20] <Danar> sunrex: you shouldn't be operating as root
[06:20] <sunrex> .
[06:20] <sunrex> Danar: o...
[06:20] <nalioth> !backports
[06:20] <ubotu> methinks backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[06:20] <Danar> sunrex: never log in as root, and don't run graphical apps as root.
[06:20] <Danar> sunrex: use sudo to run commands as root
[06:21] <sunrex> oh ITS RUNNING YAY lol.
[06:21] <misfit_toy> jok nerolinux looks great so far, testing a dvd / bin image
[06:21] <misfit_toy> -j
[06:21] <dabaR> who the dvd?
[06:21] <misfit_toy> dabaR, eh?
[06:21] <MrBiscuit> Hmmm.... Maybe i should move the phone company 1800 feet closer to my house and get dsl...
[06:21] <IceDC571> i can only see the top half of the women unless i sudo
[06:21] <MidNightRaVeN> IceDC571: as of right now whenever i use xine to play dvds it says there is an error that audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type. When nalioth tried to compile a library for me.... wouldn't work
[06:21] <dabaR> misfit_toy: q was for sunrex .
[06:21] <misfit_toy> ah
[06:21] <Danar> sunrex: if you make a mistake as root you can kill your system. root is the highest authority, and it will do whatever you tell it to do, even if you tell it to delete everything (rm -rf /) cause it assumes you know what you're doing.
[06:22] <sunrex> Danar:tyler@Darkworks:~/Desktop$ sudo tar -jxvf filname /usr/local/codecs/
[06:22] <sunrex> Password:
[06:22] <sunrex> tar: filname: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[06:22] <sunrex> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:22] <sunrex> tar: Child returned status 2
[06:22] <sunrex> tar: /usr/local/codecs: Not found in archive
[06:22] <sunrex> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:22] <sunrex> ..
[06:22] <IceDC571> MidNightRaVeN: thats a strange error, have you tried installing your graphic drivers?
[06:22] <nalioth> sunrex:  you missed a folder
[06:22] <Danar> sunrex: heh. you were supposed to substitute 'filename' for the name of the file, which i've forgotten
[06:22] <dabaR> sunrex: replace the filname for the name of the file you are untaring
[06:22] <Danar> sunrex: you can use tab completion too
[06:23] <MidNightRaVeN> IceDC571: well... yesterday i was helped by another Linux guru and I believe in the process of getting my sound card to work, we installed the video drivers... is there a way to double check cuz maybe not
[06:23] <nalioth> sunrex: missed "lib"
[06:23] <caskey> I've been trying to install libusb-dev and I keep getting an error: "MD5Sum mismatch", when wgetting the file http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libu/libusb/libusb-dev_0.1.8-17ubuntu2_i386.deb, and manually checking, it doesn't match
[06:23] <nalioth> sunrex: /usr/local/lib/codecs
[06:23] <caskey> However, when using the packages.ubuntu.com interface, I get the right md5
[06:23] <Danar> sunrex: yeh, missed 'lib' too
[06:23] <sunrex> Danar: ..*sweat drops*
[06:23] <nalioths_dog> caskey: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[06:23] <caskey> (from mirror.clarkson.edu anyway)
[06:23] <nalioth> caskey: match your sources.list to the one the dog sent
[06:23] <Danar> sunrex: heh. take it easy
[06:23] <nalioth> caskey: repos are wonky today
[06:23] <Danar> sunrex: one step at a time
[06:24] <IceDC571> MidNightRaVeN: sorry, i dont know much.. maybe someone else could help you, what type of video card do you have?
[06:24] <MidNightRaVeN> Nvidia 6800 gt
[06:24] <ZeXr0> I'm trying to install ubuntu via NetBoot, and I have some difficulties with TFTPD on Windows Xp. Someone can help me ?
[06:24] <caskey> nalioth, This has been the case for several days, I'll remove the 'us' from my archive set though and try again
[06:24] <Danar> sunrex: so, sudo tar -jxvf FILENAME /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[06:24] <dabaR> caskey: that will work.
[06:25] <dabaR> nalioth: who started the group thing?
[06:25] <nalioth> caskey: you can leave them that way, it'll just round-robin you to the next available server
[06:25] <sunrex> Danar: sould i rename that file..
[06:25] <nalioth> dabaR: me and Mez
[06:25] <MidNightRaVeN> IceDC571: a nvidia 6800 gt
[06:25] <Danar> sunrex: why?
[06:25] <Danar> sunrex: just use tab completion. type the first few chars and hit TAB
[06:25] <sunrex> Danar: all-29950412.bz2_FILES
[06:25] <IceDC571> MidNightRaVeN: i think it might be a video driver problem.. but i dont use nvidia so i cant help you there sorry
[06:25] <Danar> sunrex: uh, is that the actual filename?
[06:25] <caskey> nalioth, Well, whichever one I've been getting has consistently had the wrong checksum on that .deb.  Changing to just archive.ubuntu.com fixes allows me to apt-get the libusb-dev package though
[06:26] <dabaR> mez who?
[06:26] <sunrex> Danar: yes..
[06:26] <Danar> sunrex: should be all-blah.bz2
[06:26] <misfit_toy> MidNightRaVeN, what are you trying to do?
[06:26] <MidNightRaVeN> IceDC571: np =) thx for trying though
[06:26] <MidNightRaVeN> well... ok
[06:26] <sunrex> Danar: nvm...theres another folder in it..
[06:26] <nalioth> dabaR: a user in here with nickname of Mez
[06:26] <MidNightRaVeN> misfit_toy:  as of right now whenever i use xine to play dvds it says there is an error that audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type. When nalioth tried to compile a library for me.... wouldn't work
[06:26] <nalioth> dabaR: its on the page
[06:26] <dabaR> nalioth: so whats so special about the group?
[06:26] <MrBiscuit> Anyone in here use dialup?
[06:27] <dabaR> what is the difference when I am part, from right now?
[06:27] <MidNightRaVeN> misfit_toy: can't figure out basically how to get DVDs to play cuz Totem just stalls and Xine has errors
[06:27] <ukato> anyone here use fluxbox?
[06:27] <gp_aaron> is there a package for limewire in apt?
[06:27] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: i use my cell phone.. does that count?
[06:27] <ColonelKernel> is there a rescue mode for ubuntu? I seem to have put my root password in wrong
[06:27] <nalioth> dabaR: official recognition
[06:27] <MrBiscuit> Or have a basic understanding of PPP in linux
[06:27] <dabaR> ok, now all people with a sound problem in unison...
[06:27] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: isnt PPP only for dsl?
[06:27] <MidNightRaVeN> w00t!
[06:27] <dabaR> hi, crimsun.
[06:27] <egi> colonelkernel: see ubuntuguide.com
[06:27] <MidNightRaVeN> sound problem...
[06:27] <sunrex> ..
[06:28] <ColonelKernel> egi - thanks
[06:28] <sunrex> Danar: crap
[06:28] <MrBiscuit> IceDC571: Not really unless you have a modemattached to it
[06:28] <The_Vox> IceDC571: no, ppp is for dialup...pppoe is for dsl
[06:28] <gp_aaron> can someone check?
[06:28] <IceDC571> ohh i see
[06:28] <MidNightRaVeN> misfit_toy: any ideas?
[06:28] <sunrex> Danar: tyler@Darkworks:~/Desktop$ sudo tar -jxvf all-20050412 /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[06:28] <sunrex> tar: all-20050412: Cannot read: Is a directory
[06:28] <sunrex> tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now
[06:28] <sunrex> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:28] <sunrex> bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly;
[06:28] <sunrex>         perhaps it is corrupted?  *Possible* reason follows.
[06:28] <sunrex> bzip2: Invalid argument
[06:28] <sunrex>         Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
[06:28] <sunrex> It is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted.
[06:28] <sunrex> You can use the -tvv option to test integrity of such files.
[06:28] <IceDC571> wow.. um..
[06:28] <sunrex> You can use the `bzip2recover' program to attempt to recover
[06:28] <sunrex> data from undamaged sections of corrupted files.
[06:28] <sunrex> tar: Child returned status 2
[06:28] <sunrex> tar: /usr/local/lib/codecs: Not found in archive
[06:28] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: watch ubotu
[06:28] <sunrex> tar: Error exit delayed from FLOOD lol
[06:28] <nalioth> !ubguide
[06:28] <ubotu> [ubguide]  Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)
[06:28] <MrBiscuit> I ran pppconfig correctly with KDE,exactly like i ran it without it
[06:28] <IceDC571> its like im in an actual terminal of errors right now
[06:28] <nalioths_dog> egi: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[06:29] <MrBiscuit> And now i don't how to connect because it changed around alot of stuff
[06:29] <Danar> sunrex: yeh, sounds like it wasn't finished downloading
[06:29] <gp_aaron> anyone got a freesecond?
[06:29] <egi> nalioths_dog: thx
[06:29] <crimsun> gp_aaron: shoot
[06:29] <nalioth> sunrex: please do not flood in here
[06:29] <IceDC571> nalioth: do you have a cat?
[06:29] <mephisto6> follow the dog......lol
[06:29] <stanford> I don't understand how to install firefox update 1.04.  What do I do?
[06:29] <Danar> sunrex: delete it from the desktop, and in the terminal, run 'cd ~' then 'wget http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2'
[06:29] <ColonelKernel> ubuntuguide.com not found
[06:29] <sunrex> Danar:..great...it SAID finished...
[06:29] <sunrex> Nalioth: sorry
[06:30] <nalioth> IceDC571: every linux user has a cat
[06:30] <gp_aaron> thanks crimsun, can you check if limewire is in the apt repo for ubuntu?
[06:30] <ColonelKernel> ahhh sorry about that
[06:30] <dabaR> he can tell you without checking.
[06:30] <ColonelKernel> I had to google - my isp's dns servers are hurting right now
[06:30] <MidNightRaVeN> anyone have an nvidia system and 64 and no anything about the two together???
[06:30] <MidNightRaVeN> know*
[06:30] <dabaR> funny, you asked the right [person.
[06:30] <IceDC571> so.. who wants to show me pics of their cats?
[06:30] <gp_aaron> nalioth, I don't have a cat
[06:31] <nalioth> gp_aaron: sure you do, open a terminal and call one
[06:31] <dabaR> gp_aaron: try cat in a terminal
[06:31] <trung> hehe
[06:31] <dabaR> gp_aaron: limewire can be downloaded from their site, and then it runs, cause its Java.
[06:31] <gp_aaron> oh i thought you ment pet cat:P
[06:31] <MidNightRaVeN> blegh.... so tired... dieing.... wishes ubuntu would just work....
[06:31] <sunrex> Danar: am i supposed to do this in ROOT terminal
[06:31] <Danar> sunrex: also, i goofed the command. you should actually cd into /usr/local/lib/codecs, and run sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tar
[06:31] <Danar> sunrex: no
[06:31] <dabaR> MidNightRaVeN: ask crimsun.
[06:31] <Danar> sunrex: avoid root and use sudo
[06:31] <gp_aaron> dabaR, I know that, I just wondering if it is in the repo
[06:32] <dabaR> it is not.
[06:32] <gp_aaron> ok
[06:32] <gp_aaron> thanks
[06:32] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: are you busy?
[06:32] <dabaR> welcome
[06:32] <gp_aaron> I don't use ubuntu anymore so I don't know these things
[06:32] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: hi
[06:32] <Danar> sunrex: so, did it download?
[06:32] <Yuki> does anyone know what the command is for emerging things like KDE?
[06:32] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: i don't mean to bother you... but you think you might be able to help me?
[06:32] <sunrex> Danar: yes
[06:32] <crimsun> gp_aaron: you can check via http://package.ubuntu.com
[06:32] <dabaR> Yuki: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:33] <nalioth> Yuki: emerging? you mean d/l and installing?
[06:33] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: with?
[06:33] <Danar> sunrex: and ?
[06:33] <Yuki> yeah
[06:33] <IceDC571> oh god.. emerging in ubuntu
[06:33] <sunrex> Danar: and?
[06:33] <crimsun> gp_aaron: that's packages.ubuntu.com, sorry
[06:33] <dabaR> MidNightRaVeN: stop beating around the bush, ask the question,.
[06:33] <Yuki> I kinda don't want to use GNOME, I'd rather have KDE
[06:33] <IceDC571> pretty soon gentoo people will use the command evolve and think they're kool with KDE
[06:33] <mephisto6> Gotta crash. Many thanks dabaR, nalioth, naloths_dog!!
[06:33] <dabaR> :)
[06:33] <dabaR> see ya
[06:33] <sunrex> Danar: was i supposed to exstract it..
[06:33] <Danar> sunrex: did you cd to the codecs dir, and extract the files?
[06:33] <gp_aaron> crimsun, I got it thanks though, Yuki kubuntu-desktop
[06:33] <sunrex> Danar: oops...gotta redownload lol
[06:34] <packman_e> hello all
[06:34] <gp_aaron> thanks crimsun, dabaR
[06:34] <gp_aaron> bye now
[06:34] <dabaR> Yuki: see my command above
[06:34] <Danar> sunrex: what? again?
[06:34] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: i can't read DVDs cuz I get an error in Xine saying audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type and I dunno what to do about it... Totem just freezes if i try it and Xine as well keeps crashing Ubuntu
[06:34] <IceDC571> its like.. im a newb gentoo user how do i upgrade firefox?.... easy, use evolve firefox
[06:34] <sunrex> Danar: yup lol
[06:34] <Danar> sunrex: don't tell me you downloaded it just to delete it??
[06:34] <qt2> I have a geforce 4 mx440, should i get nvidia-glx?
[06:34] <Yuki> ok
[06:34] <Yuki> but is it possible to emerge KDE in ubuntu?
[06:34] <Danar> sunrex: then what was the point of downloading it? o.O
[06:34] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: does sound work in other contexts?
[06:34] <nalioth> crimsun: MidNightRaVeN is using amd64 arch
[06:34] <IceDC571> Evolving firefox... omg im freakin out!!
[06:34] <The_Vox> qt2: sure
[06:34] <qt2> Yuki, yet, cia synaptic.
[06:34] <ZeXr0> (Anyone ever install Ubuntu via NetBoot
[06:34] <Danar> sunrex: you were supposed to delete the old one :p
[06:34] <trung> qt2, why not?
[06:35] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: yea, it works fine with cds and such
[06:35] <dabaR> Yuki: like, compile it?
[06:35] <nalioth> ZeXr0: you can do it that way
[06:35] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[06:35] <nalioth> ZeXr0: takes a bit of work
[06:35] <sunrex> Danar: doesnt work
[06:35] <Danar> sunrex: cd to ~, and press up until you see the wget command again, and run it
[06:35] <dabaR> cause emerge means nothing in ubuntu
[06:35] <Danar> sunrex: what doesn't?
[06:35] <IceDC571> i just realized
[06:35] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: nalioth tried helping with that and compiling it from source... but couldn't get it to work cuz of my 64
[06:35] <ZeXr0> nalioth: else if there is any floppy that I can install ubuntu from, because I don't have cddrive
[06:35] <IceDC571> people say two point O instead of two point zero
[06:35] <IceDC571> thats neat!
[06:35] <sunrex> Danar: if i posed it here i would be banned for flooding
[06:36] <IceDC571> like 2.0
[06:36] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: so no it's not installed
[06:36] <Danar> sunrex: that's what pastebins are for
[06:36] <sunrex> ?
[06:36] <Yuki> yeah, I want to use KDE instead of GNOME
[06:36] <Yuki> is that possible?
[06:36] <BeefTube> just installed the ATI drivers and the control pannel... anyone know how I can open the control pannel? TIA :)
[06:36] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: it's available from deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
[06:36] <Danar> sunrex: /join #flood
[06:36] <nalioth> ZeXr0: got your pencil?
[06:36] <Danar> sunrex: you can paste in there
[06:36] <mig> hi, am using ubuntu live-cd, how do i make changes permanent?
[06:36] <dabaR> Yuki: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, again.
[06:36] <IceDC571> ack marillat?!?
[06:36] <Yuki> ah ok
[06:36] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: but how do i install it?
[06:36] <Yuki> tyty
[06:36] <nalioth> Yuki: yes, use synaptic to install "kubuntu-desktop"
[06:37] <Danar> mig: you'd have to install it to the hard drive. it's not a rewriteable cd
[06:37] <Ninwa> mig, I believe the idea of a live-cd is that it's not permanent.
[06:37] <Yuki> how long will it take?
[06:37] <dabaR> welcome
[06:37] <ZeXr0> nalioth :.. got a floppy drive and a NetWork card that's all
[06:37] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: sorry man, i'm very tired, i forgot marillat
[06:37] <Danar> Ninwa: no, that's an often useful sideaffect :p
[06:37] <dabaR> download times depend on download speed.
[06:37] <nalioth> ZeXr0: ok you ready to write (or log)
[06:37] <ZeXr0> yeah
[06:37] <mig> hmm, ninwa/danar...not possible to save some settings to HD?
[06:37] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: you should add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2
[06:37] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: not your fault. What is it?
[06:37] <Yuki> will it take 3 days like gentoo does?  XD
[06:38] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: follow crimsuns advice
[06:38] <Danar> mig: well, you could for certain apps, like firefox, but you'd have to configure it each time to use those settings
[06:38] <dabaR> crimsun: what is the aptitude equivalent of apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*?
[06:38] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: kk
[06:38] <Ninwa> Danar, Assuming the disc was rewritable, I suppose... disk-writing would be unbearably slow though.
[06:38] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: im bad at the whole source list thing... so let me try
[06:38] <sunrex> Danar:tyler@Darkworks:/usr/local/lib/codecs$ sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tartar: /home/tyler/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tar: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[06:38] <sunrex> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:38] <sunrex> tar: Child returned status 2
[06:38] <sunrex> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:38] <sunrex> tyler@Darkworks:/usr/local/lib/codecs$
[06:38] <dabaR> Yuki: less, there is no compilation involved.
[06:38] <IceDC571> Kopete ate my dog
[06:38] <nalioth> ZeXr0: go to debian.org and download the woody netinst floppy images
[06:38] <Yuki> how long do you think?
[06:38] <Ninwa> I didn't know people still used Kopete.
[06:38] <BeefTube> fglrx does nothing from commandline... how can I tweak my ATI settings? I installed a control pannel... TIA :)
[06:38] <dabaR> sunrex, please use http://pastebin.com
[06:38] <mig> runnig live-cd, i cannot see my 3 HDs installed on the box..???
[06:39] <Danar> sunrex: yeh, you ran the old command i told you. i had it backwards though
[06:39] <The_Vox> Ninwa: I use kopete...what's wrong with it?
[06:39] <IceDC571> Ninwa: what do people use for chatting in KDE then?
[06:39] <dabaR> yuki, again, I told you, download time depends on download speed.
[06:39] <stanford> How do I update firefox in ubuntu?
[06:39] <mig> i was hoping to save live-cd settings in a partition/..
[06:39] <crimsun> dabaR: the metapackage? gstreamer0.8-plugins? (or do you mean the syntax, which is identical to apt-get's in that context)
[06:39] <dabaR> you are downloading there.
[06:39] <Danar> sunrex: do it exactly like this...
[06:39] <Ninwa> The_Vox, Nothing I suppose. IceDC571, XChat and Gaim of course!
[06:39] <dabaR> yes, for a *
[06:39] <eskaypey> hey if i excidently deleted gnome system panel is there a way how to restore it?
[06:39] <Yuki> hm, so how big is the file then?  That'll answer my question better XD
[06:39] <reka> stanford: the ubuntu version already has 1.0.4's security updates
[06:39] <Danar> sunrex: after downloading the file in ~ cd to /usr/local/lib/codecs
[06:39] <nalioth> ZeXr0: make sure you get all the images (you'll be installing a very minimal debian)
[06:39] <dabaR> crimsun: if you dont get that, cause it was a little weird, aptitude does not recognize *
[06:40] <stanford> reka, so its a bug?
[06:40] <CaptainMorgan> ubuntu rocks
[06:40] <Danar> sunrex: then run sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tar
[06:40] <dabaR> yuki it gets a lot of files, please try, I have no clue
[06:40] <CaptainMorgan> worked out of the box for me
[06:40] <The_Vox> Ninwa: gaim looks ugly on kde and there's nothing practical that it has that kopete doesn't have, at least in what I use/need
[06:40] <Yuki> lol ok
[06:40] <dabaR> why do you think I would know the size of some file?
[06:40] <nalioth> ZeXr0: when you get this minimal debian (woody) installed, put this sources.list in place of the one that came with teh debian
[06:40] <Yuki> thanks though ^^
[06:40] <reka> stanford: what is?
[06:40] <stanford> reka, mozilla.org says i don't have .04
[06:40] <hondje> stanford: it's a feature
[06:40] <nalioths_dog> ZeXr0: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[06:40] <sunrex> Danar: how do i put the files in there thou
[06:40] <stanford> reka, and in "about firefox" it says 1.04
[06:40] <mig> hmm...so i guess it is much better to actually install ubuntu, than use live-cd??
[06:40] <nalioth> ZeXr0: the link the dog sent you
[06:40] <Danar> sunrex: oops. filename might be different. use tab completion
[06:40] <dabaR> crimsun: so, there is the metapackage for all gstreamers, then?
[06:40] <Danar> sunrex: what do you mean?
[06:41] <dabaR> welcome
[06:41] <CaptainMorgan> anyone have trouble with an Atheros card ?
[06:41] <reka> stanford: type about:config in the address bar
[06:41] <ZeXr0> okay :P
[06:41] <Danar> sunrex: it's an archive. that's what you're doing
[06:41] <dabaR> we need a !anyone
[06:41] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: like i said... i stink at the whole source list thing... how should it look in the source list file?? like ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ and something before and after it?
[06:41] <reka> stanford: then filter for "vendorsub"
[06:41] <nalioth> ZeXr0: at that poing, you can "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and have ubuntu
[06:41] <The_Vox> stanford: read what the whole page they pop at you says....it's an ubuntu/kubuntu package problem, and the solution is right on an URL in that page
[06:41] <reka> stanford: then change the value to 1.0.4
[06:41] <Danar> sunrex: i'm telling you how to extract the files into that dir
[06:41] <crimsun> dabaR: there's gstreamer0.8-plugins
[06:41] <dabaR> exactly as he said above, MidNightRaVeN .
[06:41] <sunrex> Danar: so all i type is this sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tar
[06:41] <ZeXr0> nalioth I can't do that now if I already have debian installed ?
[06:41] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: enter the entire deb line that I gave you
[06:41] <dabaR> ok, cool, so how about the asterisk thing, does aptitude do that?
[06:42] <nalioth> ZeXr0: if its woody, certainly
[06:42] <stanford> reka, ok i wasn't quite sure what it was saying.  I thought that would be called a bug
[06:42] <Danar> sunrex: er, type ~/all<tab> instead
[06:42] <sunrex> Danar: BINGO FOUND PROBLEM theres no TAR on end
[06:42] <egi> ColonelKernel, what was your question? :D
[06:42] <nalioth> ZeXr0: this method is not pretty at all from sarge/sid/etch
[06:42] <dabaR> cause you have the folder.
[06:42] <Danar> sunrex: that is, hit tab, not typing '<tab>'
[06:42] <sunrex> Danar:..
[06:42] <Danar> sunrex: well if you had listened to me, that wouldn't be a problem. i said before to use tab completion
[06:42] <eskaypey> is there a way how to restore original gnome panel?
[06:43] <reka> stanford: yes...but one with a solution :)
[06:43] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: does it matter that it says "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" ?
[06:43] <crimsun> dabaR: use ~
[06:43] <jasmuz> eskaypey: none that i know of...but you remember where things went, right?
[06:43] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: that doesnt matter
[06:43] <Danar> sunrex: for some reason there is on mine. it's firefox's fault
[06:43] <dabaR> eskaypey: you removed stuff from it? try right clicking, and add to panel what you want on it.
[06:43] <ZeXr0> nalioth okay :P thanks for the info, I will try this tomorow :P thank you :)
[06:43] <dabaR> crimsun: ah.
[06:43] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: see wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary
[06:43] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: kk
[06:43] <sunrex> Danar: the tab worked before...now it wont completion...and it still doent for for downloading
[06:43] <nalioth> ZeXr0: np
[06:43] <eskaypey> dabaR: no removed the actual panel
[06:44] <```bulldogg> okay what is the default root password for ubuntu
[06:44] <Danar> sunrex: how would tab completion "work" for downloading???
[06:44] <Danar> sunrex: what're you trying to do now?
[06:44] <Xyc0> Anyone know how to autosignin with GAIM on freenode?  It works on anything else...
[06:44] <sunrex> Danar: i mean  it wont pick up the file
[06:44] <dabaR> right click on a panel, new panel
[06:44] <dabaR> then add to the panel what you want on it.
[06:44] <egi> ```bulldogg, no root password is initially set
[06:44] <sunrex> Danar: sould i extract it on the desktop then use the thing?
[06:44] <dabaR> not sure if you can get the old one, tho.
[06:44] <eskaypey> k
[06:44] <```bulldogg> okay so how do I set it?
[06:44] <reka> ```bulldogg: more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RootSudo
[06:44] <nalioths_dog> ```bulldogg: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:44] <egi> ```bulldogg, use sudo all the time
[06:44] <turkey> anyone know anything about belkin pcmcia wired nic and an old laptop?
[06:44] <ZeXr0> nalioth i'll give you a feedback of that :P
[06:44] <Danar> sunrex: simply type sudo tar -jxvf ~/all<tab>
[06:45] <nalioth> ZeXr0: please do
[06:45] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: after install of libdvdcss it still gives same audio_decoder error...
[06:45] <sunrex> Danar: i am and nothings happening
[06:45] <Danar> sunrex: it should at least say not found
[06:45] <sunrex> Danar: do you mean ALL or do i put in somthing else...
[06:45] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: libdvdcss2, not libdvdcss
[06:45] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: did you check what sound output its using?
[06:45] <sunrex> Danar: it doesnt
[06:46] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: what are you trying to play?
[06:46] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: you mean xine or something else?
[06:46] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: a dvd
[06:46] <Danar> sunrex: i mean, type the first 3 chars of the filename, which are a, l, l. then hit tab
[06:46] <sunrex> Danar:i mean tab isint working like it was =/ wont pick up on anything
[06:46] <sunrex> Danar: i am...nothings happening
[06:46] <```bulldogg> figured it out thanks
[06:46] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: xine dosent play my dvd's correctly...i do it via Mplayer
[06:46] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: it was libdvdcss2... just forgot the 2 part
[06:47] <Danar> sunrex: clear everything on the command line, and type cd /et<tab>
[06:47] <HumbleBeefTube> anyone know how to launch the ATI control pannel from commandline?
[06:47] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: hmmm, what happened when you tried to play it in xine?
[06:47] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: what application?
[06:47] <Jormundgand> Beagle is indescribably awesome.
[06:47] <Danar> sunrex: substitute <tab> with the tab key, of course
[06:47] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: gave me the same error you have
[06:47] <sunrex> that worked..
[06:47] <dabaR> ok, later, Im out, Ubuntu to all of you:)
[06:47] <sunrex> Danar: that worked..
[06:47] <Danar> sunrex: then you probably had a space at the beginning or something
[06:48] <GigaClon> hi all
[06:48] <Danar> sunrex: try again
[06:48] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: if this works... o man will i be happy!
[06:48] <sunrex> sudo tar -jxvf ~/all<tab>
[06:48] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: try using mplayer, it did play my dvd
[06:48] <sunrex> danar:sudo tar -jxvf ~/all<tab>
[06:48] <Danar> sunrex: yeh.. subbing <tab> with the tab key
[06:49] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: just installed... going to try... pray for me!
[06:49] <sunrex> danar: you sure thats the correct command?
[06:49] <cleit0n> hi, how i mount cdrom or hd in user mode?
[06:49] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: use the menu, and select the chapter you want
[06:49] <Danar> sunrex: i'm telling you to use tab completion to complete the filename, so you don't make a mistake
[06:49] <Danar> sunrex: and also for ease, and efficiency
[06:49] <sunrex> Danar: and im telling u its not filling anything in....
[06:50] <jasmuz> cleit0n: sudo mount /dev/xxx /mountpointx
[06:50] <Danar> sunrex: then the file is not there, or you're not in the right directory
[06:50] <sunrex> Danar: right..
[06:50] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: how do i select the chapter?
[06:50] <sunrex> Danar:Darkworks:/usr/local/lib/codecs$
[06:50] <Danar> sunrex: either you forgot to redownload it, or you deleted it again, or you didn't save it there, or...
[06:50] <sunrex> Danar: the file is on desktop..
[06:50] <Danar> sunrex: yeh
[06:51] <Danar> sunrex: arg, you didn't listen
[06:51] <sunrex> Danar: ..sorry...just having truble following along lol
[06:51] <Danar> sunrex: this would have been done an hour ago if you had followed my directions :/
[06:51] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: left click on the screen, dvd->open dvd
[06:51] <Danar> sunrex: k, you never ran wget then
[06:51] <dabaR> Danar: he has a folder with teh extracted file in it.
[06:51] <sunrex> Danar: =/ i noticed *sigh*
[06:51] <dabaR> just mv it to the new location.
[06:51] <sunrex> Danar: wget...wget...huh..
[06:51] <buffbikedude> does anyone know of a self-contained script or x86 binary I can download that would convert a file from mp3 to flac?
[06:52] <Danar> sunrex: so the path you were specifying is wrong cause you didn't put it where i said. that's why tab completion failed
[06:52] <Danar> sunrex: yeh, at one point i said to wget <the url here>
[06:52] <jasmuz> buffbikedude: dont do that
[06:52] <Danar> sunrex: from ~
[06:52] <buffbikedude> jasmuz: for what reason? space or legality?
[06:52] <Danar> sunrex: that would have put it where i expected it to be. when you said you had finished downloading it again, i thought you did it with wget
[06:52] <sunrex> Danar:ok....so what i do...just give me a list LOL
[06:53] <Danar> sunrex: i did give a list. you skipped a few steps :p
[06:53] <sunrex> Danar:OH sorry
[06:53] <dabaR> danar write out a pastebin
[06:53] <Danar> heh
[06:53] <jasmuz> buffbikedude: you already lost the quality when it was recorded from the original to the mp3 (mp3 is Lossy, looses bits and pieces everywhere)
[06:53] <qt2> what's this 'aptitude' everyone is talking about, i have 'synaptic'... o.O;
[06:53] <dabaR> or a script even:)
[06:53] <jasmuz> buffbikedude: you should try from mp3 to ogg
[06:53] <Danar> lol, not a bad idea
[06:53] <DekaPink> I keep getting an error when I'm trying to apt-get stuff.... its in the pastebin. :3
[06:53] <sunrex> Danar:so...what do i do lol
[06:53] <dabaR> qt2: aptitude is just kinda like a command line synaptic
[06:53] <buffbikedude> jasmuz: well transcoding to ogg causes a further loss in quality, does it not?
[06:53] <qt2> ah
[06:53] <jasmuz> buffbikedude: ogg is lossy too but has a better compression scheme
[06:54] <dabaR> DekaPink: a md5sum error?
[06:54] <sunrex> Danar:cant you just remote accsess my computer? lol
[06:54] <DekaPink> dabaR: Yeah.
[06:54] <buffbikedude> jazmuz: but isn't it different enough that you cannot transcode from mp3 to ogg without a sharp drop in quality?
[06:54] <cleit0n> jasmuz: only ?
[06:54] <dabaR> DekaPink: remove us. from the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[06:54] <qt2> hm, does ubuntu run on xorg?
[06:54] <jasmuz> buffbikedude: not really...depends on how compressed you want it know...still the diference isnt easy to note
[06:54] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: i can't find where it says DVD...
[06:54] <dabaR> qt2: hoary does.
[06:54] <MrBiscuit> Anyone here now use dialup or understand PPP on Linux?
[06:55] <qt2> dabaR, does that mean i can just drop in the xorg config file from my gentoo install?
[06:55] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: left click says clearly DVD
[06:55] <DekaPink> dabaR: Thank you. :)
[06:55] <jasmuz> MrBiscuit: i do!
[06:55] <sunrex> Danar:so what do i do *crys*
[06:55] <buffbikedude> ok then, I'll repose the question. does anyone know where I can get a self-contained mp3 to ogg executable?
[06:55] <MrBiscuit> jasmuz: Do you use KDE?
[06:55] <dabaR> qt2: hopefully:) make a backup of the one that is there now.
[06:55] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: not on mine.... should i get the regular mplayer and not the one that says 64 ?
[06:55] <qt2> dabaR, oki ;)
[06:56] <jasmuz> MrBiscuit: no i use Gnome, but have used KDE
[06:56] <hosler> When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this?
[06:56] <dabaR> then if you screw up, go to the console alt+ctrl+f4 and rename the file again.
[06:56] <dabaR> backup-rename the current file
[06:56] <dabaR> then rename it back if it gets borged.
[06:56] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: what do you get when you run Mplayer?
[06:56] <Adross> I was at a lan the other day, and, as such, using Windows. Some kid brought a virus and, due to it really screwing me over, I had to format. Since the format however, GRUb won't allow me to boot into windows at all, instead presenting me an 'unknown partition type' error. Out of desperation, I formatted Ubuntu thinking that Grub would detect it as normal. This wasn't the case, as nothing was detected. So please, can somebody shed some light on t
[06:56] <Adross> he situation? As I have another lan to go to.
[06:56] <MrBiscuit> jasmuz: How did you set upand connect using KDE
[06:56] <reka> buffbikedude: mp32ogg
[06:56] <MrBiscuit> setup*
[06:56] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: just a little screen that looks like an audio file player
[06:57] <dabaR> local area network?
[06:57] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: doesn't have any open screen or anything
[06:57] <jasmuz> MrBiscuit: come again
[06:57] <MrBiscuit> How did you set up a PPP connection and connect to the internet using it on KDE?
[06:57] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: odd :/
[06:57] <Trace> Hello, when i use alsamixer to show my sound config, Pcm and Master are just 0, i can't up or down the sound , can anybody help me ?
[06:57] <dabaR> Adross: lan?
[06:57] <jasmuz> MrBiscuit: use kppp
[06:57] <egi> MrBiscuit, have u tried kppp?
[06:57] <MrBiscuit> Yea
[06:57] <buffbikedude> reka: I'm looking there. they're saying that it loses data, in red. I'm thinking maybe mp32flac would be a better solution for me.
[06:58] <MrBiscuit> It connects me
[06:58] <MrBiscuit> But stays at the screen Logging on to Network
[06:58] <Lufusol> Adross: use lilo :P
[06:58] <crimsun> Trace: cat /proc/asound/modules
[06:58] <MidNightRaVeN> as well... when i look at the Sounds and Audio tab and look at mplayer... it just has a little icon of a browser looking thing... no like icon
[06:58] <CaptainMorgan> imageshack is amazing.. I don't know how they remain free..
[06:58] <Lufusol> heh
[06:58] <jasmuz> Trace: what is your pc?
[06:58] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: as well... when i look at the Sounds and Audio tab and look at mplayer... it just has a little icon of a browser looking thing... no like icon
[06:58] <adwait> hey ppl
[06:58] <Adross> Lufusol, i don't think that would work, as it seems to be a partition error
[06:59] <jasmuz> MrBiscuit: did you check the protocol you are using to identify, it must be PAP
[06:59] <Adross> i have tried reformating windows to no avail
[06:59] <Trace> snd-intel8x0
[06:59] <dabaR> oh, hes back, cause i thought the join notice was false.
[06:59] <MrBiscuit> It is
[06:59] <MrBiscuit> But how would i use a connection i made in pppconfig
[06:59] <Trace> and my sound card is integrated.
[06:59] <adwait> dabaR: :p
[06:59] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: your mplayer is strange
[06:59] <dabaR> Adross: what is a lan?
[06:59] <Adross> local area network
[06:59] <MrBiscuit> Local Area Net
[06:59] <Trace> Silicon Integrated System, 1039:7012
[06:59] <dabaR> ok, why does one have to use windows on a lan?
[06:59] <Adross> computer party, we go over to each others house with our comps and play games
[06:59] <adwait> MrBiscuit: LAN connection in pppconfig? maybe u should use pppoe?
[06:59] <jasmuz> MrBiscuit: go to the run area, and type pon
[07:00] <Adross> for games, as i don't yet have cedega
[07:00] <adwait> *pppoeconfig
[07:00] <dabaR> aha.
[07:00] <MrBiscuit> adwait; No i have dialup
[07:00] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: when i get it from synaptic, it says amd64 - mplayer so maybe i dunno... is that the one you have?
[07:00] <Adross> anyone get any ideas?
[07:00] <adwait> ooh ok...
[07:00] <dabaR> so, what are you saying, you have one HD, Adross ?
[07:00] <crimsun> Trace: give me the lspci -v audio line
[07:00] <Adross> yes, partitioned
[07:00] <crimsun> Trace: paste the output to the pastebin in the topic
[07:00] <MrBiscuit> pon? How will i know if it's connected or not
[07:00] <dabaR> ok, and you have windows, and ubuntu installed?
[07:00] <buffbikedude> the mp32ogg page is funny, because it links directly to a page that says what mp32ogg allows them to do is generally a bad idea
[07:00] <hosler> When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this?
[07:00] <dabaR> and you had ubuntu, and reinstalled windows?
[07:00] <Adross> dabaR, yess
[07:00] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: no, but i dont have an AMD64 either
[07:01] <umar> hello all
[07:01] <dabaR> and ubuntu still works? you did not install windows right.
[07:01] <Adross> dabaR, yes, and just now, reinstalled ubuntu
[07:01] <jasmuz> MrBiscuit: you will know when you have internet connectivity
[07:01] <umar> any linux database programmer here?
[07:01] <Trace> 0000:00:02.7 Mulitimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated System[sis] 5513[IDE]
[07:01] <MrBiscuit> Ok, thanks
[07:01] <dabaR> after installing windows on top of ubuntu, ubuntu should not load.
[07:01] <MrBiscuit> I'll try it out
[07:01] <buffbikedude> what do you mean database programmer?
[07:01] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: yea... so maybe it's different cuz it's the 64 bit version...=/
[07:01] <dabaR> did it load, Adross ?
[07:01] <Trace> Subsystem: Unknown device 1849:7012
[07:01] <Lufusol> Adross: why did you reinstall ubuntu again?
[07:01] <Adross> ubuntu is working right now, after reinstalled windows, i came into no problems with ubuntu. I know, odd
[07:02] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: probably, i wouldnt know for sure
[07:02] <Adross> xp loaded right after install, then the grub would not load
[07:02] <dabaR> Adross: ya, did windows ever boot after the install?
[07:02] <dabaR> yeah, that should be like that.
[07:02] <umar> i mean to ask how can we have a database in linux and a prgramming language which provides us interface for that database
[07:02] <adwait> Adross: expected
[07:02] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: thx for the advice though cuz i'll try working a bit more on it
[07:02] <vaultspawn> Linux Newbie here..........downloaded realplayer install package........how do you install this on my computer appropriately???
[07:02] <dabaR> ok, so then you reinstalled ubuntu, and now grub comes up?
[07:02] <Adross> i reinstalled ubuntu just now because grub recahces all the os's installed. It was my last ditch efford
[07:02] <umar> like Visual Basic and SQL Server in windows
[07:02] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: you are wlcomed
[07:02] <Adross> no, thats it, ubuntu is the only detected os
[07:02] <dabaR> Adross: you could have just reinstalled grub.
[07:03] <Adross> i would of came to the same result
[07:03] <dabaR> but grub comes up, right?
[07:03] <jasmuz> vaultspawn: that plainly sucks.
[07:03] <MidNightRaVeN> does anyone have the canadian source list?
[07:03] <Lufusol> grub lives in the MBR - installing XP wipes it out - reinstalling Ubuntu puts it back...
[07:03] <MidNightRaVeN> or know where i can find it?
[07:03] <vaultspawn> yes it does
[07:03] <dabaR> MidNightRaVeN: just add ca. in front of all uurls.
[07:03] <Adross> no, it doesn't. at least it didn't when i first booted my new ubuntu install
[07:03] <jasmuz> vaultspawn: you should install it from the repositories
[07:04] <dabaR> ya, mayube you need to ress a button.
[07:04] <nalioth_zZz> Lufusol: no need to reinstall
[07:04] <vaultspawn> ok
[07:04] <sunrex> anyone know how to make a DVD normal looking and not fuzzy...
[07:04] <dabaR> or something during load to show grub.
[07:04] <dabaR> whats fuzzy?
[07:04] <MidNightRaVeN> dabaR: do you have just a simple source list then cuz mine has been altered so many times i just want a fresh one i guess you could say
[07:04] <Adross> hmm, in that case, it seems probable that xp, at least the disk i used, did not correctly write to the boot section
[07:04] <Lufusol> what i'm saying is WHEN he reinstalled, it put grub back
[07:04] <vaultspawn> dumb question......what is a repository??
[07:04] <Danar_> sunrex: sorry, guess i had connection trouble
[07:04] <sunrex> Danar:ah
[07:04] <Danar_> sunrex: did you carry out those commands?
[07:04] <Lufusol> how else would grub be loading after he reinstalled XP, unless he followed it with some other installation of linux that puts GRUB in the mbr?
[07:04] <nalioth_zZz> Lufusol: for whomever needs it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:04] <qt2> err, are there any more... well rounded... apt repositories...?
[07:04] <jasmuz> vaultspawn: is a server that hosts the sofware for the OS
[07:05] <dabaR> www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list add ca. in front of all urls, and try updating, the security.ubuntu.com may not work, so remove the ca. from it after.
[07:05] <vaultspawn> got it
[07:05] <sunrex> Danar:i need to know what i missed
[07:05] <nalioth_zZz> for whomever needs it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:05] <trung> "libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[07:05] <trung> ?
[07:05] <Lufusol> nalioth that section of the wiki is good, here is the GRUB manual also: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[07:05] <Fikrann> Hello everyone
[07:05] <nalioth_zZz> qt2 you should stick with official repos, or your system may suffer
[07:05] <Adross> i assure you i did not put it back, my guess is xp didn't take it away for some reason, perhaps it had trouble writing to the mbr
[07:05] <Danar_> sunrex: did you see the commands in #flood/
[07:05] <dabaR> install the .so thing.
[07:05] <Adross> this would explain a lot
[07:05] <adwait> trung: apt-get it maybe
[07:05] <adwait> ?
[07:05] <Razor-X> the Grub docs are awesome
[07:05] <dabaR> hi, Fikrann .
[07:05] <vaultspawn> jasmuz: thanks
[07:05] <jasmuz> !ubotu repositories
[07:05] <ubotu> methinks repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:06] <Razor-X> OMG, It seems I don't need to think to do emacs binds any longer ;)
[07:06] <sunrex> Danar: u mean from the list i posed
[07:06] <sunrex> Danar:POSTED
[07:06] <jasmuz> vaultspawn: use that link that ubotu posted
[07:06] <sunrex> Danar:i saw u join..dont see any commands
[07:06] <trung> adwait, what is name of it?
[07:06] <Razor-X> sunrex: please do not use caps to corret spelling errors
[07:06] <hosler> When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this?
[07:06] <Danar_> sunrex: no, i told you to look in #flood
[07:06] <Danar_> sunrex: then i posted a list of commands
[07:06] <vaultspawn> i will.....thanks for the help
[07:06] <dabaR> Razor-X: please dont be a nazi.
[07:06] <Danar_> sunrex: guess i was out longer than i thought
[07:06] <sunrex> Danar:no i didint see em
[07:06] <dabaR> bah
[07:07] <Razor-X> dabaR: it's common nettiquette, caps==shouting
[07:07] <Danar_> sunrex: k, look in flood again
[07:07] <adwait> jung: umm.....libgtk i guess?
[07:07] <dabaR> I am just getting on your case...
[07:07] <trung> jasmuz, i use synaptic and have many name match with libgtk
[07:07] <sunrex> Danar:k
[07:07] <Lufusol> Adross: well getting back to your problem.. just to confirm the situation.. grub loads, into what, command line mode or the menu?
[07:07] <IceDC571> why do people use slackware?
[07:07] <adwait> trung: uuh....no thts not it
[07:07] <dabaR> is there one that completely matches the one the program asked for, trung ?
[07:07] <Razor-X> IceDC571: because it's highly-configurable
[07:08] <Razor-X> and powerful
[07:08] <Adross> grub loaded into the normal menu. Ubuntu, memtest, and xp
[07:08] <Adross> loading xp would fail
[07:08] <Lufusol> ok.  And ubuntu works fine
[07:08] <Danar_> IceDC571: some people like it. why do you not?
[07:08] <Lufusol> what error does it give when you choose xp?
[07:08] <jasmuz> trung: what are you looking to install?
[07:08] <Adross> with it saying there was an ntldr error and partition was unreadbale
[07:08] <Adross> yes, ubuntu works fine
[07:08] <Lufusol> ahhhhhhh
[07:08] <Danar_> IceDC571: it's the oldest distro..
[07:08] <Razor-X> Adross: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst and put it on pastebin
[07:08] <IceDC571> i dont know, i mean.. do you have to build everything from source in slack?
[07:08] <jasmuz> IceDC571: because they like geezers
[07:08] <Adross> for 99% of the time, this is fine. But i'm going to a lan
[07:08] <Razor-X> or #flood, if you don't want to leave IRC
[07:09] <Danar_> sunrex: you can delete the file on your desktop
[07:09] <Adross> kk, #flood it is
[07:09] <trung> jasmuz, i don't know just error
[07:09] <sunrex> danar: k...so do i do each one at one time
[07:09] <Adross> hmm, no windows
[07:09] <jasmuz> trung: what is your issue?...multiple entries of the same file in synaptic?
[07:10] <dabaR> ha, I learned how to switch "windows" in irssi:P
[07:10] <Lufusol> Adross: "NTLDR is missing, press any key to restart"  ?
[07:11] <sunrex> Danar:DOWNLOADING
[07:11] <dabaR> jasmuz: his issue is that some program does not load, cause the program wants libgtk1.02.so or something like that.
[07:11] <Razor-X> #flood is a definite use for emacs
[07:11] <Danar_> sunrex: yeh, just one line at a time
[07:11] <trung> jasmuz,  yes
[07:11] <Razor-X> hmmm, i'm seeing why pastebin is more desired ;)
[07:11] <trung> jasmuz, what name of package that included libgtk-1.2.so.0
[07:12] <jasmuz> trung: what program is asking you for libgtk?
[07:12] <sunrex> Danar: k what after sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2
[07:12] <Lufusol> ADROSS: http://www.tinyempire.com/shortnotes/files/ntldr_missing.htm
[07:12] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: you'll really like irssi if you use it with "gnu screen"
[07:12] <Adross> that was the error, back when grub had windows
[07:12] <Adross> now it didn't detect it at all
[07:12] <Adross> can u still help me?
[07:12] <dabaR> what is gnu screen?
[07:12] <Razor-X> nalioth_zZz: anything is better with GNU screen
[07:12] <Danar_> !ops
[07:12] <ubotu> ops is probably bob2 daniels
[07:12] <Adross> i know what ntldr is
[07:12] <Yuki> is there an email client I can install?
[07:12] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: then, you can access your irssi from any where (library computer, etc) that has ssh
[07:12] <Adross> boot error
[07:12] <Razor-X> dabaR: it's a form of multiple-terminal management using the CLI
[07:13] <Danar_> can one of you kill my ghost nick? Danar
[07:13] <Razor-X> Adross: done?
[07:13] <Lufusol> Adross: that link isn't just telling you what it is
[07:13] <dabaR> why couldnt I now? its cli...
[07:13] <trung> jasmuz, purebasic.com
[07:13] <Lufusol> Adross: it tells you how to fix it
[07:13] <Adross> but now grub doesn't even detect it
[07:13] <qt2> nalioth_zZz, so... should i compile everything not in the official repositories...
[07:13] <Lufusol> Adross: or atleast how to diagnose the situation
[07:13] <qt2> ?
[07:13] <sunrex> danar:?
[07:13] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: you have to initiate screen, then start irssi inside it
[07:13] <Danar_> sunrex: after that, the files should be there, and hopefully xine will see them when you run it
[07:13] <Danar_> sunrex: try again
[07:14] <sunrex> Danar: k
[07:14] <dabaR> why could I not just do it with ssh?
[07:14] <Razor-X> Adross: got it saved to a file
[07:14] <Danar_> sunrex: xine or totem or whatever you're using
[07:14] <dabaR> its cli.
[07:14] <dabaR> you mean so I can have another terminal open?
[07:14] <sunrex> Danar: didint work
[07:14] <nalioth_zZz> qt2, first try for official binarys, 2nd use apt to build from official sources 3d, build by hand (use checkinstall in place of "make install")
[07:14] <Razor-X> dabaR: exactly
[07:14] <Adross> i think i may be able to fix it by getting another xp disk, installing, then reinstalling ubuntu
[07:15] <Adross> worse comes to worse, i have pata hdd spare
[07:15] <dabaR> ya, that makes sense, maybe I will do that when I have a use for that...Im fine now, tho,.
[07:15] <Razor-X> but, the best part about screen is, if you use screen remotely, it's de/attachable
[07:15] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: with screen, you can have 100s of terminals runnning inside one gnome-term window
[07:15] <Adross> thanks guys
[07:15] <dabaR> I can have that now.
[07:15] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: Razor-X can explain it better
[07:15] <Razor-X> without tabs
[07:15] <Adross> its people like you that got me to change over to linux in the first place. You're really doing yourselves proud
[07:15] <dabaR> But, I cant start gnome-term without -X
[07:15] <Razor-X> tabs take up GUI usage, and more memory usage than screen does
[07:15] <Danar_> sunrex: what're you trying to play, and what exactly happens?
[07:15] <Danar_> sunrex: and what're you playing with
[07:15] <Razor-X> dabaR: yeah, you can use screen without X
[07:15] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: screen runs in the text logins also
[07:16] <dabaR> ok, so gnome screen? cant be two words...
[07:16] <Razor-X> but, if you're X-less, I also suggest using twin
[07:16] <Razor-X> dabaR: screen
[07:16] <Razor-X> one word
[07:16] <sunrex> Danar:i see half the movie the other have is like a tv with no respetion....it was like this b/f to
[07:16] <Danar_> sunrex: what players have you tried? xine, vlc, mplayer?
[07:16] <dabaR> just screen, then,
[07:16] <dabaR> lets see.
[07:16] <Razor-X> your computing life will never be the same
[07:16] <Lufusol> Adross: http://www.tinyempire.com/shortnotes/files/fixntldr.iso try burning and booting from this
[07:16] <Razor-X> trust me
[07:16] <sunrex> Danar:Xine TOTEM totem just freezes thou
[07:16] <Danar_> sunrex: strange
[07:16] <Lufusol> follow instructions on that link i gave you
[07:16] <dabaR> not in repos...
[07:16] <jasmuz> Good night people
[07:16] <nalioth_zZz> Razor-X: anyone who listens to you will never be the same
[07:17] <cyphase> hmm..
[07:17] <jasmuz> Troll tonight
[07:17] <cyphase> Ubuntu Foundation..
[07:17] <nalioth_zZz> Razor-X: emacs can run your car, plug it in
[07:17] <Razor-X> nalioth_zZz: ;)
[07:17] <sunrex> Danar:i got no sound either
[07:17] <Razor-X> I only wish it could
[07:17] <Razor-X> I'm such a screen dedicated fan, I use emacs in screen
[07:17] <nalioth_zZz> !info screen
[07:17] <ubotu> screen: (a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 563 kB, Installed size: 972 kB
[07:17] <dabaR> misc?
[07:17] <Razor-X> i'm even more dedicated about screen than I am about emacs, I just don't spread the love as much
[07:17] <dabaR> I dont have that enabled, I dont think..
[07:17] <Fikrann> nalioth_zZz, Provided you can sacrifice 65% of your engine's power solely to keep emacs running.
[07:18] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: it might be default ( i dont remember)
[07:18] <Lufusol> I hope it helps... Other than that I am out of ideas.
[07:18] <Lufusol> good luck
[07:18] <Danar> sunrex:  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-esd totem-gstreamer
[07:18] <GigaClon> can anyone suggest a Linux tutorial?
[07:18] <nalioth_zZz> Fikrann: now i was just joshin with Razor-X. He's the one who wants to implant his sisters with emacs
[07:18] <Razor-X> I will!
[07:18] <nalioth_zZz> GigaClon: www.tldp.org
[07:18] <Danar> GigaClon: go to google.com/linux and search ~guide
[07:18] <Razor-X> from age 6, she'll learn C-x C-c
[07:18] <GigaClon> thanks
[07:18] <Danar> you'll find tldp.org and more
[07:19] <sunrex> Danar:0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[07:19] <nalioth_zZz> GigaClon: but stay away from ubuntuguide
[07:19] <Danar> sunrex: you already have them?
[07:19] <sunrex> Danar:i guess =/
[07:19] <Razor-X> nalioth_zZz: ubuntuguide has become deprecated?
[07:19] <Danar> sunrex: tried playing something else?
[07:19] <nalioth_zZz> !ubguide
[07:19] <ubotu> well, ubguide is Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)
[07:19] <sunrex> Danar:no...ill try that now..
[07:19] <sunrex> Danar: wait i cant
[07:19] <Danar> sunrex: ...
[07:20] <GigaClon> im really new to Linux, just install ubuntu today
[07:20] <sunrex> Danar:my 2 CD/DVD roms just froze and wont eject
[07:20] <sunrex> Danar:im going to restart BRB
[07:20] <nalioth_zZz> night, got early clients tomorrow
[07:20] <Danar> sunrex: wait
[07:20] <othernoob> sunrex unmount them
[07:20] <IceDC571> blah.. i feel like an ass using mandrake when i was 13
[07:20] <sunrex> Danar: ?
[07:20] <Danar> sunrex: you want to restart the computer?
[07:20] <IceDC571> i should of used something like.. freebsd
[07:20] <Danar> sunrex: just open the tray
[07:20] <Danar> sunrex: got a pin?
[07:21] <GNULinuxer> nalioth_zZz, what is UTFS?
[07:21] <Razor-X> IceDC571: you used Mandrake at 13?
[07:21] <sunrex> Danar:...wtf...it just ejected..
[07:21] <Danar> sunrex: actually.. oh. nvm
[07:21] <Razor-X> I plunged headfirst into Debian no-X (on mistake, of course)
[07:21] <jocco> I cant get blender to run,,, is there a way to install Blender 3.27a in 64bit hoary with apt-get or synaptic? TIA :)
[07:21] <sunrex> Danar:great my music disk wont eject..
[07:21] <Razor-X> now I reccomend it to all seriously wanting to learn Linux ;)
[07:21] <IceDC571> Razor-X: mm hmm.. i remember i couldnt make my mouse cursor something else instead of that stupid X
[07:21] <Razor-X> IceDC571: XD
[07:22] <Razor-X> i'm 15, ya know
[07:22] <Danar> sunrex: heh. run lsof|grep -i mnt
[07:22] <IceDC571> Razor-X: congrats, do you have a girl?
[07:22] <sunrex> danar:?
[07:22] <Razor-X> spend a week in the command-line, even the most experienced in terminals (bust still use X) would have a hard time
[07:22] <Razor-X> IceDC571: hell no ;)
[07:22] <Lufusol> I used mandrake 10 last, now this mandriva 10.2, i got the 1-cd ISO that downloads the rest on demand but I haven't tried it yet.. that feature wasn't very reliable on previous distros
[07:22] <IceDC571> Razor-X: so linux is better than sex, eh?
[07:22] <jocco> anyone here use blender 3d?
[07:22] <Razor-X> IceDC571: I don't do sex (long story there)
[07:22] <Lufusol> jocco: somewhat
[07:23] <Razor-X> Wikipedia "human asexual"
[07:23] <Danar> jocco: used it a couple times. not exactly a guru though :p
[07:23] <Razor-X> but yeah, better than being with a girl XD
[07:23] <Danar> jocco: there's good guides out there though
[07:23] <sunrex> Danar: what u want me to do
[07:23] <IceDC571> Razor-X: thats cool, what distro did you start out with?
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> Does anyone here understand the memory layout of Linux processes very well
[07:23] <Danar> sunrex: i told you: run lsof|grep -i mnt
[07:23] <jocco> ok, I will try to find the source and compile it...
[07:23] <sunrex> Danar: WTF OK NOW I got the DVD TO WORK...BUT IT KEEPS FREEZING
[07:23] <Razor-X> IceDC571: Debian
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> sunrex:  install xine
[07:24] <MidNightRaVeN> anyone have 64 here?
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> sunrex:  don't use totem.
[07:24] <Razor-X> Debian Unstable, IIRC
[07:24] <Danar> sunrex: sounds like you're doing stuff in the mean-time...
[07:24] <sunrex> im running Xine
[07:24] <jocco> I do
[07:24] <Razor-X> and my gfx card was being a bitch
[07:24] <jocco> I have AMD64
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> sunrex:  oh, well do you have glx acceleration
[07:24] <MidNightRaVeN> jocco: how long have you been using it?
[07:24] <Razor-X> through much hard experience, i've learned that the only thing that works well with that gfx card is xvesa
[07:24] <jocco> 20 minuets
[07:24] <sunrex> no
[07:24] <Danar> sunrex: first you ought to fix this. tell me the output from that command
[07:24] <Razor-X> the only xserver, rather
[07:24] <MidNightRaVeN> jocco: lol kk
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> sunrex:  don't make the window terribly large
[07:24] <jocco> yea, I cant get any 32 bit apps to work
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> sunrex:  witohut glx accel, it takes video players a lot to draw on the screen.
[07:25] <sunrex> Danar:it says command not found
[07:25] <Lufusol> jocco: blender is really, really complex and can do a lot more than it appears but i haven't found any REALLY good documentation for it yet
[07:25] <IceDC571> yeah i used mandrake first, then tried redhat.. didnt like it at all, switched back to mandrake.. tried fedora, stuck to fedora for a while, tried debian unstable.. didnt like my gfx card.. went back to fedora, tried ubuntu and now im never going back
[07:25] <sunrex> bluefoxicy: were do i get it
[07:25] <MidNightRaVeN> jocco: yea... i think i'm just goin to switch to x86 architecture right now....
[07:25] <bluefoxicy> sunrex:  from your video card drivers?  :P
[07:25] <Danar> sunrex: you ran exactly this: lsof | grep -i mnt
[07:25] <Danar> ?
[07:25] <IceDC571> but i still want to try freebsd again
[07:25] <Lufusol> just the official stuff... used it for a few months at one job where the boss wanted me to make 3D looking webpage layouts
[07:25] <sunrex> Danar:tyler@Darkworks:~$ lsof | grep -i mnt
[07:25] <sunrex> tyler@Darkworks:~$
[07:26] <dabaR> ok, wow, I found a new repo, misc
[07:26] <jocco> Lufusol yea, I have been useing it science version 1.75
[07:26] <dabaR> weird
[07:26] <sunrex> Danar: didint do anything =/
[07:26] <MidNightRaVeN> wooooooooo!!!!!
[07:26] <Danar> sunrex: arg. you mislead me
[07:26] <sunrex> bluefoxicy:so were do i get the thing..
[07:26] <MidNightRaVeN> oh geez... that's not good
[07:26] <jocco> MidNightRaVeN there is some way we install ubuntu for the 32bit under the 64bit somehow
[07:26] <sunrex> Danar:LOL
[07:26] <Danar> sunrex: no, it did what it was supposed to do. it did not say command not found, it had no output, which usually means success
[07:26] <Razor-X> ah hah, live the power of emacs macros ;)
[07:26] <MidNightRaVeN> jocco: what do you mean??
[07:27] <MidNightRaVeN> i think i just destroyed something...
[07:27] <youth> Does anyone know how I run wine?
[07:27] <Razor-X> i'm sorting through Adross's menu.lst removing all the IRC commands
[07:27] <jocco> somehow we have a 32bit system that we chroot to
[07:27] <MidNightRaVeN> really? =/
[07:27] <othernoob> is there a n64 emulator for linux?
[07:27] <jocco> we install 32bit apps there
[07:27] <othernoob> as well as a neogeo emu
[07:27] <Danar> sunrex: what it does is pipe the output from lsof (list open files) to grep, which you told to search for 'mnt'. to see if something was using a mounted drive/partition
[07:27] <MidNightRaVeN> well crap... how do we do that...
[07:27] <jocco> othernoob I think xmame will do n64
[07:27] <sunrex> Danar:....well is somthing?
[07:27] <Danar> sunrex: at the moment you ran it, nothing was using the drives, right?
[07:28] <jocco> othernoob Xmess I mean
[07:28] <Danar> sunrex: apparently not, as there was no output
[07:28] <Lufusol> Ice and whoever... hmm.. i think redhat 5 or 6 was my first successful linux distro.. then mandrake, then gave up on it when i couldn't get past debian install >_< then years later.. last year.. tried mandrake 10, and fedora core 2, and settled on suse 9
[07:28] <Razor-X> there we are, all the IRC is out of it
[07:28] <sunrex> Danar:nope...unless a CD that wont eject is called running =P
[07:28] <othernoob> jocco it does have a promissing name ;) thanks
[07:28] <Lufusol> now running overclockix and ubuntu
[07:28] <MidNightRaVeN> welll peeps... i just totally broke ubuntu lol
[07:28] <Danar> sunrex: what's mount say?
[07:28] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: goo job!
[07:28] <othernoob> MidNightRaVeN:  congrats
[07:28] <MidNightRaVeN> =D
[07:28] <Lufusol> both debian based.. finally i graduated to debian.. still a total noob though :)
[07:28] <youth> ..anyone? :/
[07:28] <MidNightRaVeN> lol you guys should help me fix it ;-)
[07:28] <sunrex> Danar: Audio Disk
[07:29] <Razor-X> Lufusol: why waste your CPU on stuff like Folding@Home, when you can use Progress Quest? ;)
[07:29] <Danar> youth: run 'wine program.exe' in a terminal
[07:29] <sunrex> Danar: dont know why i even put it in i got no sound..
[07:29] <MidNightRaVeN> it's not too bad...
[07:29] <youth> thankyou~
[07:29] <Razor-X> who cares about helping discover the protein folding configurations and aiding humans
[07:29] <MidNightRaVeN> lol
[07:29] <Razor-X> I want my character to be BADASS XD
[07:29] <Lufusol> Razor-X: haha
[07:29] <othernoob> youth you have to be in the directory of the app to do it
[07:29] <sunrex> Danar:Unable To Eject Media...and when i click eject my HD starts to load with that sound
[07:29] <Danar> sunrex: paste the output of 'mount' in flood
[07:29] <youth> where is it? 'cause i dont even know where it went
[07:29] <sunrex> Danar:what you mean
[07:30] <Razor-X> oddly enough, the shift of stuff is moving from pastebin to flood
[07:30] <othernoob> youth probably .wine/fake_windows/....
[07:30] <Danar> sunrex: i mean, run mount in a terminal, and paste the output in #flood
[07:30] <Razor-X> still, I deprecate using #flood only because it's cleaner in pastebin
[07:30] <MidNightRaVeN> can you use the history in Synaptic to reinstall stuff easily?
[07:30] <sunrex> Danar:whats the command to do that lol
[07:30] <Danar> youth: you cd to the dir of the program, and run 'wine program.exe'
[07:30] <Razor-X> surly: 'mount'
[07:30] <youth> danar; cd to it.?
[07:30] <Razor-X> errr
[07:30] <Danar> sunrex: ?! mount. for the fifth time: mount
[07:30] <Lufusol> Razor-X: overclockix is actually a rather nice distro aside from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>especially since it automatically discovers and mounts NTFS volumes and I run XP on both my machines here at home
[07:31] <Razor-X> sunrex: 'mount'
[07:31] <othernoob> youth: cd =change directory
[07:31] <Danar> youth: cd = the change directory command. you need to run it from the same directory the program is in
[07:31] <Razor-X> Lufusol: i'm just jokin with ya
[07:31] <sunrex> OH LOL
[07:31] <Lufusol> Razor-X: i know ;)
[07:31] <Razor-X> I know the guy who makes Overclockix
[07:31] <youth> oooooh
[07:31] <Razor-X> and have met the guy who makes Kanotix
[07:31] <sunrex> Danar:done
[07:31] <rob^_> too much X
[07:31] <MidNightRaVeN> ughh... well looks like i'm going to be reinstalling ubuntu...
[07:31] <Razor-X> helped the former add some packages to Overclockix ;)
[07:31] <Lufusol> Kanotix - another Knoppix variant?
[07:32] <Razor-X> Lufusol: it's one with a blazing-fast kernel
[07:32] <othernoob> Lufusol sort of
[07:32] <Danar> sunrex: woops. again, i wasn't in #flood
[07:32] <rob^_> I personally like xxx
[07:32] <sunrex> ,,
[07:32] <MidNightRaVeN> does anyone have a suggestion if i should use x86 or x86_64????
[07:32] <sunrex> LOL
[07:32] <Razor-X> rob^_: keep your wet dreams to yourself
[07:32] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: 64 if you can
[07:32] <budish76> helo
[07:32] <othernoob> MidNightRaVeN: that depends on your cpu
[07:32] <sunrex> Danar:done
[07:32] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: kk...
[07:32] <budish76> anyone install antivirus on ubuntu?
[07:33] <othernoob> budish76: what for?
[07:33] <Danar> budish76: not much point unless you're running a mail server or something, but if you want one: clamav
[07:33] <MidNightRaVeN> othernoob: i have 64 but was thinking of just using x86 for ease of use
[07:33] <budish76> clam av confused
[07:33] <Lufusol> MidNightRaVen: nah go for x86_64
[07:33] <budish76> need zlibc-devel
[07:33] <Lufusol> if you got it, flaunt it ;)
[07:33] <sunrex> Danar:anything wrong with it?
[07:33] <Danar> 64-bit = goodness
[07:33] <othernoob> budish76: clamav is a opensource antivirus prog. in fact, it's the best antivirus prog
[07:34] <Danar> sunrex: nope, but it tells me that your dvd & cd drives aren't mounted
[07:34] <budish76> already download the .gz file
[07:34] <budish76> confused to install
[07:34] <Danar> sunrex: which confirms that they're not being used, and you should have no problem ejecting them
[07:34] <budish76> find rpm package
[07:34] <sunrex> Danar:here...
[07:34] <reka> budish76: you're doing it the hard way
[07:34] <grphx> I'm trying to print something, but all my printer does is blink it's power light..
[07:34] <othernoob> budish76: you could install it via apt
[07:34] <budish76> hmmm
[07:34] <budish76> any address
[07:34] <budish76> for synaptic?
[07:34] <Danar> sunrex: if you can't eject them with the eject command, then stick a pin in the hole
[07:35] <reka> budish76: sys > admin > synaptic
[07:35] <budish76> for clamav
[07:35] <sunrex> Danar:UNABLE TO EJECT MEDIA - Eject: UNABLE TO EJECT LAST ERROR INVALID ARGUMENT
[07:35] <Lufusol> uh oh level one tech support time.. sir, is your printer plugged in to your computer?  sir, is the light on your monitor green or amber?
[07:35] <Danar> budish76: there's little point in having an antivirus for linux, but if you insist, run "sudo apt-get install clamav" or  search for clamav in synaptic
[07:35] <grphx> I don't thinkl linux reconizes my printer, it don't list it in the printer setup list
[07:35] <Lufusol> :P
[07:35] <othernoob> sunrex: unmount the cddrive
[07:35] <Danar> othernoob: it's not mounted
[07:36] <othernoob> Danar: weird
[07:36] <Danar> sunrex: push the eject button on the drives
[07:36] <pinko> question: anyone know how to (successfully) open an ssh server for remote access?
[07:36] <sunrex> Danar:did...doesnt work..
[07:36] <MidNightRaVeN> goodbye peeps for a short bit... going to reinstall ubuntu!! w00t w00t!!
[07:36] <sunrex> Danar:im going to restart brb
[07:36] <bob2> pinko: you don't have to do anything aside from install the openssh-server package
[07:36] <hyphenated> Danar: there's little point having antivirus to protect linux boxes. but sometimes, you want your linux box protecting windows ones (eg: mail server that filters bad attachments)
[07:36] <bob2> pinko: if you have a "firewall" between you and the world, you'd of course need to configure that, too
[07:36] <othernoob> grphx: www.linuxprinting.org for your printing needs :)
[07:36] <Danar> hyphenated: that's what i said...
[07:37] <Danar> hyphenated: almost exactly, only with less words
[07:37] <pinko> bob2: firewall is not the problem, though I'm trying to make it work with a forwarded port
[07:37] <bob2> pinko: then it is the problem
[07:37] <hyphenated> Danar: I guess I misread. I thought you were implying clamav was a waste of time installing :-)
[07:38] <Danar> hyphenated: i was. but i also said <Danar> budish76: not much point unless you're running a mail server or something, but if you want one: clamav
[07:38] <budish76> the problem is i already install by converting rpm using alien
[07:38] <budish76> but clamav cannot run
[07:38] <budish76> and i uninstall it
[07:38] <pinko> bob2: I think you're right.  any advice?
[07:38] <Danar> budish76: so uninstall it, then install it from synaptic
[07:38] <hyphenated> whoops, missed that bit, Danar
[07:38] <Lufusol> Bedways is rightways, now
[07:38] <Danar> hyphenated: np
[07:38] <budish76> how to find the installation on internet using synaptic
[07:38] <bob2> pinko: assuming it's a consumer "router" thing, none other than reading the manual to find out how to forward connections
[07:38] <Lufusol> later folks
[07:38] <bob2> budish76: you install clamav using alien?
[07:39] <budish76> find rpm package and install using alien
[07:39] <whiprush> bob2!
[07:39] <budish76> but not work
[07:39] <reka> budish76: click the search button in synaptic.
[07:39] <bob2> budish76: that's sick, just install clamav from ubuntu.  wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto.
[07:39] <bob2> whiprush!
[07:39] <bob2> fridge me!
[07:39] <Danar> budish76: in synaptic, click the clamav package, right-click on it, and choose complete removal. click apply
[07:39] <sunrex> Danar: well///that went well...and i got my cd out
[07:39] <reka> then type in clamav
[07:39] <Danar> budish76: then reinstall it with synaptic
[07:40] <whiprush> bob2: hmm, I need to nail down Mr. Dub and discuss.
[07:40] <whiprush> Time is catching up to us.
[07:40] <budish76> the installation source should be anywhere in internet
[07:40] <sunrex> Danar:what do i use so i can make my DVD a big screen>
[07:40] <budish76> anyone has clear address
[07:40] <bob2> whiprush: the elusive Mr Dub.  a nailgun might help.
[07:40] <budish76> i'm little confused using synaptic
[07:40] <hosler> When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this?
[07:40] <bob2> budish76: dude, use synaptic.  you're only digging your hole here deeper.
[07:40] <pinko> bob2: I have the port opened by my gateway, verified that it's open through scan.sygate.com
[07:41] <rob^> anyone know where I can get the kernel module for lufsmount to mount ftp servers?
[07:41] <bob2> pinko: that site sounds useless
[07:41] <sunrex> Danar: ?
[07:41] <whiprush> bob2: I was thinking more along the lines of an iron maiden, but yeah ....
[07:41] <bob2> pinko: can you ssh to your external ip from elsewere on the internet or not?
[07:41] <pinko> bob2: nope.  so far, I can only do it from within the network
[07:42] <bob2> pinko: then the router is still misconfigured
[07:42] <bob2> pinko: I assume this is the ip you're on irc from?
[07:42] <pinko> bob2: yes
[07:42] <bob2> pinko: it works fine
[07:42] <budish76> bob2: do you think that i can install rpm that i already download for other distro via synaptic?
[07:42] <sunrex> Danar: WTF MY DVD EVEN WHEN SMALL FREEZES
[07:42] <bob2> budish76: no, that's a terrible idea
[07:42] <IceDC571> budish76: use alien
[07:42] <IceDC571> budish76: what type of package?
[07:42] <bob2> budish76: use the ubuntu paclages
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> where can I find the pic used on my desktop in my install?
[07:44] <sunrex> Danar: U HERE
[07:44] <Danar> sunrex: and was unnecessary, but glad it worked
[07:44] <Danar> sunrex: i suggest you ask someone else for help, and/or search google, check the forums, etc. i should have been asleep hours ago. good luck, and good night
[07:44] <Danar> nite all
[07:44] <bob2> sunrex: please stop using all capitals, it makes you look obnoxious
[07:44] <Danar> sunrex: 'f' should make it fullscreen
[07:44] <Danar> sunrex: what freezes? xine?
[07:44] <Danar> nope
[07:44] <Danar> you?
[07:44] <sunrex> Danar: Xine laggs the movie like crazy
[07:45] <pinko> bob2: thank you.  I think I can guess what the trouble is, then.
[07:45] <budish76> or need to download from clamav web
[07:45] <budish76> also via synaptic?
[07:45] <Danar> sunrex: yet nothing else plays it, correct?
[07:45] <bob2> budish76: using synaptic
[07:45] <IceDC571> pshh.. xine never worked for me.. i never use it
[07:45] <bob2> xine works fine
[07:45] <IceDC571> oh wait i use totem, stupid me
[07:45] <IceDC571> lol
[07:45] <bob2> and does menus, unlike mplayer
[07:45] <sunrex> Danar: the DVDS wont play on anything else
[07:45] <Danar> does it play properly, albeit slowly?
[07:45] <sunrex> Danar: somtimes...and somtimes it freezes then starts going...its a 5 sec thing for the normal playback
[07:45] <drummer87> hey, how can i make my comp login automatically from the login shell?
[07:46] <Danar> sunrex: you may have a video card driver problem
[07:46] <Danar> but as i said, i should have gone to sleep hours ago...
[07:46] <budish76> IceDC571: rpm for mdk
[07:46] <reka> drummer87: sys > admin > login screen
[07:46] <sunrex> Danar: no...couse if i download a MP3 from the internet realplayer plays just fine
[07:47] <IceDC571> blah... especially any rpm for mandrake, dont use it
[07:47] <Danar> sunrex: how much ram do you have? might also have a small swap file
[07:47] <Danar> running anything else at the same time?
[07:47] <sunrex> Danar: about 350
[07:47] <sunrex> Danar:no
[07:47] <Danar> sunrex: ~350MB RAM? I doubt that :p
[07:47] <drummer87> reka, i'm not using gdm though.. just the shell (i want to set up a 2nd box as testing server but have it login and start linuxvnc by just pressing the on button)
[07:48] <sunrex> Danar? what i am
[07:48] <Danar> more likely 256 or 512...
[07:48] <sunrex> Danar: 350 about...i know
[07:48] <Danar> what size memory modules do you have in there?
[07:48] <reka> drummer87: i see...not really sure bout that one
[07:48] <sunrex> Danar: not sure lol =/
[07:49] <Yuki> bah
[07:49] <Danar> sunrex: is it 384?
[07:49] <Yuki> I forgot the command for installing kubuntu
[07:49] <Yuki> XD
[07:49] <sunrex> Danar: i think
[07:49] <Yuki> what is it again?
[07:49] <Danar> sunrex: that would be a 256 + a 128
[07:49] <Danar> should be plenty
[07:49] <drummer87> reka, thanks anyway, i think i've found something on the forums though :)
[07:49] <whyameye> sound stutters on many of my audio/video apps. I didn't really care until tonight because now I discover it stutters in Kino. I have tried OSS and ALSA.
[07:49] <DekaPink> There, my Ubuntu is all nice and set up, and it recognizes my camera... :D
[07:49] <Danar> whyameye: ubuntu uses esd
[07:49] <reka> drummer87: righto
[07:49] <sunrex> Danar:so then whats wrong
[07:50] <stanford> Ryhtmbox doesn't work... unexpectedly closes.  Help?
[07:50] <Danar> sunrex: not sure. possibly your video card driver. i don't have time to help now. must sleep
[07:50] <visor> hey folks do we have to umount first a usb drive before disconnecting it gnome 2.10? (usb 1.x) or simly removing it will do it?
[07:50] <drummer87> typing the q here just jogged my memory to something i'd read months ago.. all good now
[07:50] <Danar> g'nite people
[07:50] <adwait> gnite Danar
[07:51] <stanford> Ryhtmbox (music player) doesn't work... unexpectedly closes.  Help?
[07:51] <adwait> visor: i guess u better umount it....
[07:51] <IceDC571> stanford: type rhythmbox in the terminal, what does it say?
[07:51] <adwait> stanford: closes when? when u try to play/import/start?
[07:52] <stanford> adwait, when i open it lol
[07:52] <Yuki> my speakers don't even work...help?
[07:52] <visor> adwait: i've heard before that if is usb 2.0 and if you dont have anything like a mouse connected than you just unplugg it but yet im not quite sure if it harms the drive if you dont umount it
[07:52] <adwait> brb
[07:52] <stanford> icedc571, Ryhtmbox doesn't work... unexpectedly closes.  Help?
[07:52] <stanford> sorry
[07:52] <stanford> icedc571 wrong copy
[07:52] <qt2> irk... synaptic like... froze installing nvidia-glx...
[07:52] <stanford> icedc571, bash: rythmbox: command not found
[07:53] <adwait> visor: it cuoldnt harm the drive.....but whts the harm in letting linux know its not there anymore
[07:53] <adwait> stanford: rhythmbox is the spelling
[07:53] <stanford> adwait ok
[07:53] <Yuki> my speakers won't play sound...help?
[07:53] <IceDC571> stanford: its rhythmbox with two h's
[07:54] <adwait> visor: u can add the mounter to the the panel for easily mounting and umounting
[07:54] <stanford> icedc571 GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:141: failed to allocate<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes
[07:54] <stanford> aborting...
[07:54] <adwait> Yuki: no sounds  at all? hv u enabled sound server?
[07:54] <IceDC571> stanford: wow, sounds like a nasty memory error
[07:54] <IceDC571> adwait: what do you think?
[07:54] <Yuki> um, how?  XD
[07:54] <Yuki> me=linux n00b
[07:54] <Yuki> XD
[07:54] <visor> adwait: yeah, indeed there is an option on the menu when you right click on the drive, but i thought it was only needed to unplugg it (as long as you are not using it, say copying files or something)
[07:54] <balistic22> does anyone know how to connect ipod to ubuntu
[07:55] <Yuki> it plays sounds, but not music and stuff
[07:55] <stanford> icecd571, adwait, I didn't do anything to it, just installed ubuntu
[07:55] <Yuki> like, my music files don't work
[07:55] <IceDC571> balistic22: it should be plug and play.. ive listening to my ipod on ubuntu right now
[07:55] <Yuki> even though the player opens tem
[07:55] <Yuki> *them
[07:55] <stanford> lol two player issues
[07:55] <Yuki> lol
[07:55] <Yuki> yeah
[07:55] <balistic22> IceDC571, well when i had red hat it worked fine.. but for some reason its not recognizing the ipod is there a plug and play option i have to enable
[07:56] <IceDC571> balistic22: so when you plug in your ipod does it see anything?
[07:56] <stanford> icecd571, adwait, is there anything i can do to fix  this memory problem?
[07:56] <reka> Yuki: what prog are you using for music?
[07:56] <whyameye> Machine just crashed, so I got disconnected and don't know if anybody answered me. I am having troubles with stuttering sound in some audio/video apps. Specifically Kino is a problem which I would like to solve.  I need an .ai file verified.
[07:57] <stanford> i just can't open a rhythm box
[07:57] <Yuki> yes...
[07:57] <[Chameleon] > Anybody?
[07:57] <reka> Yuki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:58] <stanford> No suggestions on memory error with Rhythm box?  I'll check back in the morning
[07:58] <sunrex> what can be used to play games?
[07:58] <whyameye> is there an audio buffer setting somewhere that I can change for OSS and ALSA software?
[07:58] <sunrex> windows games
[07:58] <[Chameleon] > sunrex: WineX
[07:59] <[Chameleon] > it's spotty though
[07:59] <[Chameleon] > and not free
[07:59] <ColonelKernel> what package do I need to install for a C compiler?
[07:59] <[Chameleon] > sunrex: you could try the generic WINE
[07:59] <balistic22> would reformatting my ipod work ?
[07:59] <IceDC571> i doubt it but you can try
[07:59] <stanford> Is there an alternative to Rhythmbox?
[08:00] <IceDC571> stanford: try Muine
[08:00] <IceDC571> its very nice
[08:00] <stanford> ok
[08:00] <DekaPink> Damn, Ubuntu is sexy.
[08:00] <IceDC571> *almost* gapless playback too
[08:00] <GigaClon> damn straight
[08:00] <stanford> ubuntu is sexy
[08:00] <[Chameleon] > yep
[08:00] <IceDC571> the default human theme creeps me out tho
[08:00] <[Chameleon] > Ubuntu == Sexy
[08:00] <IceDC571> its like im part of ubuntu
[08:00] <DekaPink> If it were physically possible to make love to an operating system, I'm tellin' ya.
[08:00] <reka> ColonelKernel: gcc
[08:00] <GigaClon> what is Rhythmbox?
[08:00] <balistic22>  ughh i want to work with my ipod
[08:00] <hosler> When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this?
[08:01] <ColonelKernel> do I have to log out or anything after I install gcc?
[08:02] <hosler> balistic22: When I plugged in my ipod it worked instantly.
[08:02] <jocco> is there a backport for AMD64 hoary? I need blender version 2.37 or 2.37a TIA
[08:02] <reka> ColonelKernel: don't think so
[08:02] <crimsun> ColonelKernel, build-essential is the package
[08:02] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, thanks
[08:02] <littlered> I just posted my desktop in the Ubuntu Forum's gallery. :D
[08:02] <whyameye> hosler: what it esddsp and where can I get it? Will this help with stuttering audio in software that uses OSS or ALSA?
[08:02] <kkathman> evenin crimson..howzit goin :)
[08:03] <reka> whyameye, hosler :  crimsun's the resident sound guru. :)
[08:03] <kkathman> yep he is
[08:04] <whyameye> crimsun: can you help? I have sound stuttering issues in many audio/video programs. I am especially concerned about Kino right now...
[08:04] <hosler> whyameye: ubuntu uses esound to allow multiple programs use the sound device. But not all programs are compatible with esound, so esddsp allows those programs to use esound even if they are not programed to do so.
[08:04] <whyameye> hosler: esound == esd?
[08:04] <hosler> whyameye: you can download it with synaptic. I believe the package is called esound-clients or something like that.
[08:04] <crimsun> it's best to avoid esound if at all possible.
[08:04] <hosler> whyameye: esd = esound deamon
[08:05] <hosler> crimsun: what would you recommend as an alternative?
[08:05] <whyameye> okay. Yes when I use Kino for example I have to type killall esd in a terminal window first.
[08:05] <ColonelKernel> configure: error: zlib needed <-- what do I install to fix this error
[08:05] <IceDC571> just wait in a few years when M$ charages $700 for an operating system
[08:05] <crimsun> hosler, alsa directly
[08:05] <MrBiscuit> Anyone have dialup or have any knowledge on PPP?
[08:06] <IceDC571> welcome back MrBiscuit
[08:06] <hosler> crimsun: so if just disable esound alsa will kick in?
[08:06] <MrBiscuit> Gesundheit!
[08:06] <MrBiscuit> Oh yes Hi
[08:06] <MrBiscuit> Still no luck :-(
[08:06] <crimsun> hosler, esound currently is configured on ubuntu to run on top of alsa's oss emulation
[08:06] <MrBiscuit> Maybe i should go back to GNOME
[08:06] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: what modem do you have?
[08:06] <crimsun> hosler, if you disable esound, you have to configure the gnome applications to use alsa directly for their audio sink
[08:06] <MrBiscuit> Conexant HSF Modem
[08:06] <jasoncohen> ColonelKernel, apt-get install zlib1g zlib1g-dev most likely
[08:06] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: yes, indeed.. go back to gnome
[08:07] <MrBiscuit> But KDE is so pretty
[08:07] <hosler> crimsun: why do they use esound at all?
[08:07] <MrBiscuit> But it doesn't have Gnometris
[08:07] <IceDC571> kde is Qt with a huge facelift and major surgeries
[08:07] <MrBiscuit> Hmmm.. Decisions Decisions
[08:07] <IceDC571> go back to gnome..
[08:07] <jasoncohen> ColonelKernel, i'm almost positive you have zlib1g installed but you probably are missing the development files from zlib1g-dev
[08:07] <crimsun> hosler, it was the simplest way to support multiple sounds across the variety of sound hardware
[08:08] <MrBiscuit> Hmmm.. Linuxant is not free.. what a rip off..Good thing i have a beta driver :-D
[08:08] <ColonelKernel> jasoncohen, that would be it - thank you
[08:08] <hosler> crimsun: wait, doesnt alsa do the same thing?
[08:08] <littlered> Oi... What's that thing you can get for gaim that like, highlights the message windows when you're getting new messages? :3
[08:08] <crimsun> hosler, at the library layer, yes, called dmix.
[08:08] <MrBiscuit> OkIce, i mite be back later, to reinstall Ubuntu!
[08:08] <whyameye> okay so now I installed esddsp and run it and hear nothing using Kino.
[08:09] <Yuki> what's the command to install kubuntu?
[08:09] <hosler> crimsun: so if I dissable esound, will I be able to play a game which uses sound and listen to music at the same time?
[08:09] <jasoncohen> ColonelKernel, zlib1g is an essential library. if you tried to remove it ubuntu would warn you of grave danger ahead :)
[08:09] <jasoncohen> so, zlib1g-dev was a good bet
[08:09] <crimsun> hosler, more than likely, yes
[08:09] <reka> Yuki: kubuntu is a seperate distro :)
[08:09] <Yuki> o_o
[08:09] <reka> Yuki: i take it you mean KDE?
[08:09] <crimsun> hosler, certain games are still hard-wired to use oss, however.
[08:09] <rob^> when I try to build or modprobe the lufs modules in my 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel I get "lufs: Unknown symbol kill_proc_info
[08:09] <rob^> "
[08:09] <Yuki> yeah
[08:09] <whyameye> crimsun: any ideas about stuttering sound with ALSA and OSS?