[01:44] <CTRL> my cd drive isn't working but it detects
[08:50] <iceroot> i am unable to find which package is the "keyboard and mouse" application in the settingsmenu (its not lxkeymap)
[09:02] <iceroot> lxinput (after greping the menu name in /usr/share) :)
[09:15] <AlesR> hi, I lubuntu 12.04 now stable enough to install it on your PC?
[09:15] <AlesR> *is
[09:15] <iceroot> AlesR: 12.04 is still a beta-release
[09:15]  * AlesR don't want to wait 19 more days ;)
[09:16] <AlesR> iceroot: sure, but is it good for a daily use?
[09:16] <iceroot> its working fine here but that does not mean that things will not break
[09:16] <iceroot> AlesR: as i said, its still a beta and betas are not designed for daily use
[09:16] <AlesR> is there going to be an upgrade to RC and later to Final version if I install it today?
[09:17] <AlesR> or is it better to wait?
[09:17] <AlesR> I installed Xubuntu 12.04 beta on my server few days ago and it's working great for now
[09:17] <iceroot> if you upgrade it later you will get the rc/finale
[09:18] <iceroot> and again, betas are NOT designed for important systems
[09:18] <AlesR> iceroot: ok, cool than I will install it today and upgrade to final when it's out
[09:18] <iceroot> if you want to use it, you are free to use it of course
[09:18] <AlesR> thanks
[09:19] <AlesR> I so don't need to reinstall it later... that's what is important
[09:19] <iceroot> yes you dont need to reinstall
[09:19] <AlesR> I can live with a few bugs until then ;)
[09:19] <AlesR> cool, thanks again iceroot for your response
[09:20]  * AlesR downloading latest Lubuntu now
[09:21] <AlesR> one more thing... I have an old laptop for this where Ubuntu 11.04 works slow (centino 1.6, 1Gb ram)
[09:21] <AlesR> I guess 12.04 would too...
[09:22] <iceroot> i am running 630mhz, 512mb ram and its very fine
[09:22] <AlesR> if you already have Ubuntu on and would like to lighten it up..
[09:22] <iceroot> ubuntu?
[09:22] <iceroot> this is lubuntu :)
[09:22] <AlesR> is there a Ubuntu -> Lubuntu or something?
[09:22] <AlesR> yes, I'm talking about Ubuntu now (while downloading Lubuntu) ;)
[09:23] <iceroot> so you have ubuntu (gnome/unity) running and want to use lubuntu with lxde?
[09:23] <AlesR> yes
[09:23] <iceroot> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[09:23] <AlesR> and that's it?
[09:23] <iceroot> and on 11.04 imo you need the multiverse repo enabled
[09:23] <iceroot> yes thats it
[09:23] <AlesR> aha, so it is in different repo
[09:24] <iceroot> no
[09:24] <iceroot> but one package lubuntu-desktop is reffering to is in the multiverse repo
[09:24] <AlesR> mhm
[09:24] <iceroot> its gecko-mplayer or something like that
[09:25] <AlesR> and the uses as much ram as Lubuntu does?
[09:25] <iceroot> ?
[09:25] <AlesR> I would guess more... because of the apps running in background
[09:26] <iceroot> i am not sure what you mean
[09:26] <AlesR> it is still Ubuntu with Lubuntu skin...
[09:26] <iceroot> no
[09:27] <iceroot> its lubuntu
[09:27] <AlesR> apps are changed too?
[09:27] <iceroot> on the login-screen you choose to use ubuntu or lubuntu
[09:27] <iceroot> if you run the apt-get install command you have then the apps from ubuntu and lubuntu in your menus
[09:28] <iceroot> but only the daemons needed for lubuntu are started when you choose lubuntu
[09:28] <AlesR> oh, great
[09:28] <iceroot> if you want to remove the ubuntu desktop and just run lubuntu use this
[09:28] <iceroot> !purelxde
[09:29] <iceroot> AlesR: but i would suggest to first install lubuntu-desktop and see if it fits your needs
[09:29] <iceroot> before removing something
[09:30] <AlesR> ok, good tips
[09:31] <AlesR> btw, what are the differences between Lubuntu and Xubuntu?
[09:31] <AlesR> I read Lubuntu is lighter
[09:31] <iceroot> lubuntu is using lxde, xubuntu is using xfce4
[09:31] <iceroot> yes lubuntu is lighter
[09:31] <iceroot> xfce4 is something like the old gnome2
[09:32] <AlesR> yea, I'm not liking it a lot xfce...
[09:33] <AlesR> I'm glad that I only access it through SSH ;)
[15:44] <crivera> how do i kill X? i'm trying to run lubuntu in a VM with terminal only
[16:00] <kanliot> crivera you u using amd drivers?
[16:00] <crivera> yup
[16:00] <crivera> wait, never mind.  not on this machine
[16:00] <kanliot> can you just log out?
[16:01] <kanliot> ok then do alt-prntscreen +k
[16:01] <kanliot> i actually i'm a little confused why you're doing this
[16:01] <kanliot> but good luck
[16:02] <crivera> i want to create a lightweight vm with our projects development environment
[16:03] <crivera> it's a pretty complicated setup process so I want to minimize the rampup time for new developers that join our team
[16:12] <kanliot> why is lxde.org down every week?
[16:21] <phillw> kanliot: is it?
[16:36] <Joshun> hi
[16:36] <Joshun> flash doesn't seem to be working on lubuntu
[16:36] <Joshun> on chromium it just says it has crashed
[16:37] <Joshun> this is on a fresh install, v11.10
[16:37] <Joshun> its really strange because it worked fine on ubunu/xubuntu, perhaps there is some other package that needs installing
[16:39] <Unit193> Joshun: You need to install adobe-flashplugin from the partner repo.
[16:39] <Unit193> !partner | Joshun
[16:39] <Joshun> i've tried both adobe-flashplugin from partner and the flash-plugin installer packages
[16:39] <Joshun> none of them seem to work
[16:39] <Joshun> google chrome's built in flash does however
[16:41] <Joshun> youtube on other browsers will just say 'Missing Plugin'
[16:43] <Unit193> I have none installed except adobe and working in FF.
[16:44] <Joshun> about plugins in ff reads:
[16:45] <Joshun>     File: libflashplayer.so    Version:    Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[16:45] <Joshun> the only other installed plugin is java
[16:46] <Joshun> if i have to i will re-install lubuntu and see if that works
[16:46] <Joshun> i only installed it yesterday anyway
[16:46] <Unit193> Shouldn't, but I don't remember how they fixed the issue.
[16:47] <Unit193> bioterror: You here?
[16:47] <Joshun> it just seems really odd
[16:47] <Joshun> worked fine with the same version of flash, same hardware, just xubuntu
[16:47] <Unit193> Yeah, but that's flash, not always the best.
[16:48] <Joshun> yeah terribly glitchy
[16:49] <Unit193> http://www.youtube.com/html5 That may help with youtube videos. :P
[16:49] <Joshun> is there a way to debug flash from the command line?
[16:49] <Joshun> i need flash for other sites though -_-
[16:50] <Unit193> You can open the browser and see output from it.
[16:51] <phillw> Joshun: ensure you have enabled lubuntu-restricted-extras, it will pull in the latest flash
[16:51] <bioterror> Unit193, I am
[16:51] <Joshun> there is no output
[16:52] <Joshun> not even with the -g flag
[16:52] <Joshun> restricted extras is installed
[16:52] <Joshun> i think
[16:52] <Joshun> "lubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version."
[16:52] <phillw> Joshun: what does dpkg -l  | grep flash give you?
[16:53] <phillw> dpkg -l  | grep flash
[16:53] <Joshun> ii  flashplugin-installer                  <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>             Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[16:53] <Joshun> ii  flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound         0.0.svn2431-3ubuntu1                    Adobe Flash Player platform support library for Esound and OSS
[16:53] <Joshun> ii  get-flash-videos                       1.24-2                                  Video downloader for various Flash-based video hosting sites
[16:53] <bioterror> Joshun, sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[16:53] <Unit193> sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[16:54] <bioterror> if you dont have partner repository already in use
[16:54] <Unit193> That first.
[16:54] <Joshun> i'll try that
[16:54] <bioterror> and if you dont have and you add that repository, remember to sudo apt-get update
[16:55] <Joshun> doesn't work either
[16:55] <bioterror> what doesnt work?
[16:55] <Joshun> "The following plugin has crashed: adobe flash"
[16:55] <Joshun> the partner one
[16:55] <bioterror> did you restart your browser?
[16:56] <Joshun> yeah
[16:56] <Joshun> killed it to make sure
[16:56] <Joshun> i cleared the cache too
[16:57] <bioterror> my youtube problems disappeared with adobe-flashplugin
[16:57] <Joshun> from chromium: Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[16:58] <Joshun> i could do a screenshot
[17:03] <Joshun> 1: http://imagebin.org/207106
[17:03] <Joshun> 2: http://imagebin.org/207107
[17:05] <Joshun> 3: http://imagebin.org/207109
[17:06] <Joshun> i think i'll re-install
[17:06] <Joshun> with the flash box ticked
[17:07] <Joshun> and if that doesn't work install the 12.04 beta
[17:38] <kanliot> if anyone wants to review my bug report, tell me if i messed up the report please bug 976088
[17:39] <smile4ever> kanliot: i think it's in debian repo's too. :) because I have also a crash when the volume is changed in some situations;)
[17:40] <kanliot> ty smile
[17:41] <smile4ever> you're welcome :)
[17:42] <smile4ever> what? :|
[17:42] <smile4ever> mplayer disappeared again :|
[17:43] <kanliot> really?
[17:43] <kanliot> i'm willing to put up with bugs when i'm hacking but not when i'm chillaxing
[17:50] <smile4ever> kanliot: yes. no reason, just disappeared :(
[17:50] <smile4ever> after about two minutes after playing the last file it closes :|
[17:52] <kanliot> yeah i have had some crashing on precise
[17:53] <kanliot> i guess i got used to the crashing.  wierd huh?  how you get used to it
[17:55] <smile4ever> yeah. ;) crazy things happen. it's normal 9.9
[18:03] <jarnos> Hello. I just installed 12.04 alternate dev i386 and it can not start the desktop, but I can log in a virtual console.
[18:04] <kanliot> thanks for reporting that.  you should file a bug and i cna help u
[18:06] <wxl> oh eayh i just had a volume icon crash. never had that happen before.
[18:07] <smile> jarnos: try startx? :)
[18:09] <phillw> it should be startlubuntu for a lubuntu installation
[18:11] <kanliot> wow i just learned what zsync does
[18:12] <phillw> kanliot: it's a very useful command
[18:12] <jarnos> kanliot, so is there some template for such a bug report?
[18:13] <smile> kanliot: cool isn't it ;)
[18:13] <smile> :D
[18:13] <kanliot> jarnos, make sure you get the right package in the bug report, and list everythign you need to reproduce
[18:13] <smile> I needed an Xubuntu image. Took ubuntu one and zsynced it :D
[18:14] <phillw> jarnos: take a read of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#Bugs
[18:15] <phillw> let us know if there is need for more information & we'll get it put on.
[18:17] <phillw> smile: yeah, zsync is pretty impressive :D
[18:17] <smile> phillw: I found it to difficult to use a few months ago :p
[18:17] <smile> but a week ago I needed Xubuntu
[18:18] <smile> so I learned zsync in one minute ^^
[18:18] <smile> :)
[18:18] <phillw> I found the description at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage to be enough for me :)
[18:19] <phillw> I've even got it on a CentOS server where I mirror the Lubuntu Iso's :)
[18:19] <jarnos> I installed using automatic partitioning, using entire disk, using encryption. There is some complaint about encrypted swap in boot.
[18:19] <smile> phillw: how to use zsync i google'ed :)
[18:20] <phillw> smile: I ensured it was put on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing  Our one stop shop for all things to do with testing :)
[18:20] <smile> phillw: i ctrl+D'd it ;)
[18:21] <smile> love firefox 14 8)
[18:21] <smile> phillw: Maybe I'll get involved later. :)
[18:21] <phillw> jarnos: I've never used encryption, just let people know that if you loose your p/w... you're up the creek minus paddle.
[18:22] <smile> phillw: Please have a look at Linux Mint Debian Xfce, it's done like LXDE with many more features and stability :) I'm using a few LXDE packages, though
[18:22] <phillw> smile: the final RC for all the 12.04's will land a couple of days before release day.
[18:22] <smile> Cool ;) And that's in mid april? :p
[18:23] <smile> I'll try it, but now i don't like it :( atm ;)
[18:23] <phillw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[18:23] <phillw> I think we get 7 days to check the RL.
[18:23] <Maximoto> is 12.04 out yet?
[18:24] <smile> not yet ;)
[18:24] <phillw> s/RL/RC
[18:24] <smile> Release candidate 9.9
[18:24] <phillw> Maximoto: see my post above, it's due 26th
[18:24]  * smile is leaving. good night everyone! :)
[18:25] <phillw> Maximoto: the Beta 2 is available from http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/210/builds
[18:25] <phillw> tc smile
[18:25] <smile> phillw: you're welcome
[18:26] <Maximoto> phillw: 12.04 is releasing on the 26th you say
[18:27] <phillw> Maximoto: http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com.es/2012/03/lubuntu-countdown.html :D
[18:28] <phillw> Maximoto: the beta 2 is so stable, we are expecting (and certainly hoping for) a smooth transition to final release.
[18:28] <kanliot> seriously is lxde.org not down for you europeans?
[18:29] <phillw> kanliot: it's down for me in UK
[18:31] <Maximoto> phillw: oh would like to see it has a better interface and functions in term of the browser
[18:31] <phillw> kanliot: there **is** a snapshot at http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://lxde.org/
[18:31] <kanliot>
[18:32] <kanliot> thanks
[18:32] <phillw> Maximoto: as we use Chromium by default, that is what you get :) But, you can install any browser you prefer :)
[18:33] <phillw> some of us have been playing with xxxterm Browser, pretty lean.
[18:35] <phillw> kanliot: I'm not sure if Mario is involved with the lxde.org hosting. If not, he would most likely know who is. feel free to ask him :)
[18:36] <kanliot> yea i know
[18:36] <kanliot> really i havent' built a relationship with mario at all
[18:36] <kanliot> even though he was kind enough to chat with me a week ago
[18:37] <kanliot> am i wrong to assume that i have to be the one to get the lxde.org website online?
[18:37] <kanliot> and i don't expect you to either
[18:39] <kanliot> but i am the kind of helpful person
[18:39] <kanliot> just last week i was out on a walk
[18:40] <kanliot> and i knocked on a persons door to let them know the headlights were left on on their truck
[18:40] <kanliot> lorry for you brits
[18:40] <jarnos> I still don't know how to report about this specific bug.
[18:40] <kanliot> yeah
[18:40] <kanliot> it was a problem with the graphical stuff not starting after a new install right?
[18:41] <kanliot> really I'd rather ask phillw about what package
[18:43] <kanliot> would the right package be to file this bug be "lubuntu-desktop" ?
[18:44] <jarnos> kanliot, can you help me reporting the bug?
[18:44] <phillw> jarnos: can you describe the bug? As in what installation you have and what happens. Best place it to mail it on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it can b quickly reviewed by people more knowledgeable than me :)
[18:45] <kanliot> are you running the installation that didn't install right now?
[18:46] <phillw> jarnos: if the desktop is not starting (from my reading history on here), you would report it against lightdm
[18:46] <jarnos> kanliot, installation finished without errors.
[18:47] <kanliot> can you open a web browser on that faulty machine?
[18:47] <jarnos> phillw, well, display manager starts and lets me give password, but it will not login to lubuntu desktop.
[18:47] <kanliot> if you can, you can just use the terminal to type "ubuntu-bug"
[18:48] <kanliot> ok you're stuck
[18:48] <phillw> jarnos: where do you end up logged in to?
[18:48] <jarnos> kanliot, I can not run graphical web browser there.
[18:48] <kanliot> https://launchpad.net/lightdm
[18:48] <kanliot> open that
[18:48] <phillw> or do you get thrown back to login prompt?
[18:48] <kanliot> and "report a bug" against it
[18:49] <phillw> is this the install with the encryption?
[18:50] <jarnos> phillw, yes
[18:50] <phillw> just encrypted /home?
[18:51] <jarnos> phillw, I chose encryption in the installation process. It may use also encrypted swap besides /home. I don't know.
[18:52] <Maximoto> how do i get the desktop panel to change wallpaper and no it's not on the screen
[18:52] <jarnos> phillw, yes, I get thrown back to login screen
[18:52] <kanliot> max, can you right click on desktop and select destop prefs?
[18:53] <Maximoto> kan: not there i have to use alt- f2
[18:54] <kanliot> i mean, the background
[18:54] <kanliot> can you right-click on that?
[18:54] <kanliot> you should get something
[18:54] <phillw> jarnos: that sounds like an issue with the encryption. I suggest asking on #ubuntu-beginners to see if anyone on there is familiar with encrypted /home, it's a bit quieter than #ubuntu for support. I really do not know about encryption over what it says on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[18:56] <phillw> normally we'd reset your .ICEAuthority, but I no idea how to do that on an encrypted area.
[18:57] <kanliot> so it's not a lightdm bug then, is it?
[18:57]  * kanliot masters the obvious
[18:58] <Maximoto> kan: and again it's not ther
[19:00] <kanliot> max:   please explain why you can't right click on the desktop
[19:01] <Maximoto> kan: the menu lists comes up instead
[19:01] <kanliot> openbox menu?
[19:02] <Maximoto> yes
[19:02] <kanliot> k
[19:02] <kanliot> i got ya now
[19:02] <kanliot> hold on a minute i have to google
[19:02] <Maximoto> oh
[19:03] <kanliot> jarnos: i tested the daily build and encrypted home whatever works. on my vm
[19:04] <bioterror> Maximoto, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Right-clicking_on_desktop_pulls_up_a_menu_that_is_missing_the_.22Desktop_Preferences.22_option_and_now_I_can.27t_change_my_wallpaper
[19:04] <kanliot> max try this let me know if you need more help
[19:04] <kanliot> http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=100661.0
[19:04] <kanliot> dammit bio
[19:04] <kanliot> grrr
[19:05] <kanliot> lol
[19:05] <bioterror> I did not start that faq for nothing ;)
[19:06] <phillw> bioterror: and like fankensteins monster, it's getting bigger :P
[19:06] <bioterror> phillw, luckily we have Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde in it ;)
[19:06] <bioterror> guide and work-a-rounds ;9
[19:07] <Maximoto> isn't helping
[19:07] <bioterror> what's not helping?
[19:07] <Maximoto> advices
[19:10] <bioterror> Maximoto, you said you get wrong menu when you right click the desktop and you cannot change wallpaper
[19:10] <bioterror> and that should help you
[19:10] <bioterror> it has been tested many times
[19:11] <Maximoto> can't see it
[19:12] <bioterror> you cant see what?
[19:12] <bioterror> that pcmanfm --desktop-pref ?
[19:12] <jarnos> kanliot, strange that it does not work here. Did you use automatic partitioning, use entire disk?
[19:12] <Maximoto> yes it's the one i couldn't remember
[19:12] <kanliot> yeah, i did
[19:13] <kanliot> did you use encrypted llvm?
[19:16] <kanliot> and i gotta ask, did you use beta 2
[19:16] <Maximoto> bio: in what file do i find the different wallpapers?
[19:16] <bioterror> Maximoto, /usr/share/lubuntu/wallpapers
[19:21] <Maximoto> bio: when yopur in desktop preferences and click advanced and unmarked the option there it doesn't work here
[19:22] <bioterror> works here
[19:22] <Maximoto> not there
[19:22] <Maximoto> not here
[19:23] <bioterror> unmark it
[19:23] <bioterror> and hmm
[19:23] <bioterror> restart your graphical environment
[19:23] <bioterror> sudo service lxdm restart
[19:23] <bioterror> ;)
[19:23] <Maximoto> oh ok
[19:23] <bioterror> if that doenst help
[19:24] <bioterror> then we have to think what's really broken
[19:24] <kanliot> max what version of lubuntu are you running?
[19:25] <jarnos> kanliot, i did not use encrypted llvm, I used daily iso.
[19:26] <jarnos> kanliot, please use my name tag
[19:26] <Maximoto> 11.04 now because i use the option of previous version
[19:30] <Maximoto> bio: what you know it did work
[19:30] <Maximoto> :)
[19:31] <Maximoto> kanliot: what version of lubuntu are you running?
[19:31] <kanliot> 12.04
[19:32] <Maximoto> oh so can anybody tell me what's the differents between them?
[19:33] <kanliot> well when 12.04 is released you should re-install
[19:33] <kanliot> more bugfixes
[19:33] <Maximoto> i intend to get it
[19:36] <Maximoto> i cant see crap on my screen (words) how do i make them better?
[19:37] <Maximoto> *bigger
[19:37] <kanliot> "customize look and feel"
[19:37] <Maximoto> next
[19:38] <Maximoto> front?
[19:38] <kanliot> ?
[20:02] <Maximoto> how do i change back 11.04 to 11.10. i already have 11.10
[20:02] <bioterror> reinstall
[20:02] <bioterror> what
[20:02] <bioterror> yes
[20:02] <bioterror> you want to downgrade
[20:02] <bioterror> and only way to do it is to reinstall
[20:04] <Maximoto> when the computer is booting up the pass something (can't remember what it is) to change your OS vision(French)
[20:06] <Maximoto> brb
[20:06]  * Maximoto is away: I'm busy
[20:07] <Unit193> Maximoto: Please disable that, thanks.
[20:07] <Maximoto> unit193: huh?
[20:08] <Unit193> The public away message.
[20:08] <Maximoto> why does
[20:08] <bioterror> becouse we do not like it
[20:08] <Maximoto> oh
[20:09] <Maximoto> what is lubuntu all about?
[20:10] <bioterror> providing a fast and flexible computer experience
[20:10] <bioterror> targetted for older computers
[20:12] <Maximoto> oh so i am using a 733 MHz is that old
[20:13] <bioterror> 733MHz P3 is about 10 years old
[20:14] <wxl> which, in computer terms, is like millenia
[20:14] <wxl> we might as well be talking about the pyramids
[20:15] <Unit193> So mine predates the pyramids? Wow...
[20:15] <wxl> yep. incan or something.
[20:15] <wxl> before that, there were only aliens. ancient aliens.
[20:16] <bioterror> wxl, alien vs predators? :D
[20:16] <Unit193> The Ancients, we know.
[20:16] <wxl> bioterror: you haven't seen the show ancient aliens? go search it.
[20:17] <bioterror> I think I dont want to
[20:35] <Maximoto> :D not funny
[20:36] <Maximoto> so what's the requirement to run lubuntu and xubuntu
[20:37] <bioterror> some wackos runs Lubuntu on 433MHz Celerons
[20:37] <bioterror> righ Unit193 ?
[20:37] <bioterror> +t
[20:38] <Maximoto> and the standard memory to run it is
[20:39] <bioterror> you can install it on 128MB using alternative installer
[20:39] <bioterror> with 192MB you can use graphical, but I would go with the alternative's text based
[20:40] <Maximoto> alternative's text based, what's that
[20:40] <bioterror> it's awesome!
[20:41] <bioterror> http://images.brighthub.com/51/d/51d8459626a33cf128f6ed4b9a89d004b4aee69e_large.jpg
[20:41] <bioterror> looks like that
[20:41] <bioterror> http://images.brighthub.com/a0/c/a0c8c345acf0e580957381a7102e899db8972a26_large.jpg
[20:41] <Maximoto> can you send the pic through file transfer
[20:41] <bioterror> no I can not
[20:42] <Maximoto> oh
[20:42] <phillw> Maximoto: text installer is not frightening, all steps are clearly explained,
[20:43] <bioterror> it's just next next next
[20:43] <Maximoto> sound's good
[20:44] <bioterror> actually, when you use text intaller, it's easier to choose to use LVM
[20:45] <Maximoto> how do i switch my os back to 11.10
[20:46] <bioterror> you said you have 11.10 and you want it back to 11.04?
[20:46] <Unit193> bioterror: Nope, I've got 500!
[20:46] <Unit193> (Also have 510M ram)
[20:46] <bioterror> :D
[20:46] <Maximoto> no i have both but i am using 11.04 but i want to use 11.10 now
[20:47] <bioterror> sudo do-release-upgrade -p
[20:48] <Maximoto> restarting my computer 1 min
[20:48] <Maximoto> wow TAIPEI is hard to play :D
[20:49] <bioterror> that's the brick game where you put those blocks on each other?
[20:49] <Maximoto> no the one where you match the tiles
[20:50] <bioterror> ahhh, it's mahjongg
[20:50] <Maximoto> mahjongg who
[21:02] <Maximoto> why can't the games maximized
[21:06] <Maximoto> who know the game name moppets
[21:08] <bioterror> I do not
[21:13] <Maximoto> oh this channel is boring, why can't i join the linux channel
[21:14] <wxl> Maximoto: try ##linux
[21:14] <wxl> not #linux
[21:15] <Maximoto> doesn't work
[21:17] <Maximoto> wxl: it said ":Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services"
[21:17] <Unit193> !nicksetup
[21:17] <Unit193> You need to register to join.
[21:18] <Maximoto> how do i
[21:19] <Unit193> Link right above.
[21:20] <Maximoto> oh later, got to go
[23:34] <Maximoto> how do i format my flash drive?
[23:37] <Unit193> Gparted isn't bad, if you hit the right one.
[23:40] <Maximoto> huh
[23:42] <Maximoto> can't i format my flash drive?
[23:43] <bioterror> install gparted and try with that, if that palimpsest doesnt work
[23:43] <bioterror> disk utilyt or what it is called
[23:43] <bioterror> utility
[23:45] <Maximoto> one sec
[23:52] <Maximoto> no doesn't seen to work (installing) couldn't i just use file manager?
[23:52] <bioterror> no
[23:53] <bioterror> with gparted you can delete the partition ean choose a correct file system
[23:53] <bioterror> and it mostly works without a problem
[23:53] <bioterror> I do all the formats and partition modifications with gparted
[23:54] <Maximoto> gparted you say
[23:56] <bioterror> but now I'm off to bed
[23:56] <bioterror> good night
[23:58] <Maximoto> oh good night


[03:33] <zul> tfheen: 2.6.17-xen for amd64 built and i have updated xrm to 2.6.17 as well
[06:32] <BenC> zul: any way I can get those amd64 .deb's?
[06:36] <fabbione> hey BenC
[06:39] <infinity> BenC: Until I push them through NEW, you can get them here:
[06:39] <infinity> https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/250675
[06:39] <infinity> Arguably and LP bug that stuff in queue/new is downloadable, but whatever.  Take advantage of it.
[06:39] <infinity> s/and LP bug/an LP bug/
[06:49] <fabbione> hey infinity
[07:46] <BenC> infinity: thanks
[11:05] <infinity> zul: xen-restricted-modules seems to build-dep on nonexistant packages.
[11:09] <ajmitch> the headers package, I presume?
[11:09] <infinity> Yeah.  It build-deps on a sketchy package name that I certainly never processed through queue/new. :)
[11:10] <ajmitch> I've modified xen-3.0 to build libxen3.0{,-dev}, which has 3 shared libs in it
[11:10] <ajmitch> that still ok?
[11:11] <infinity> Bundling libs in one package is okay if you're *positive* they will never bump SOVER independantly.
[11:12] <ajmitch> quite sure - I thought it'd be better than adding 6+ new binary packages
[12:14] <infinity> zul: Okay, I've mostly fixed up xen-restricted-modules for you (several bugs running around), but it still won't build because your headers package is missing the arch directory.
[12:15] <ajmitch> that problem was also in 2.6.16
[01:08] <tfheen> I fixed that in 2.6.16, though
[01:25] <tfheen> I just fixed it in git
[01:28] <infinity> tfheen: Any interest in uploading the fixed source, so I can see if xen-restricted-modules actually builds?
[01:28] <infinity> Colour me curious after wasting time earlier playing with it, for no reason I can now fathom.
[01:29] <tfheen> infinity: given that I'm trying to get 2.2 into unstable and then have a chat with a friend, not today.
[01:29] <infinity> Fair enough. :)
[01:30] <ajmitch> zul ought to be awake soon enough, I'm sure he's got nothing better to do on a sunday morning :)
[02:07] <AnAnt> how can I regenerate the splash screen ?
[02:07] <AnAnt> I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy
[02:08] <AnAnt> and the splash looks wierd
[02:29] <AnAnt> the splash screen is oriented towards the right instead of being centered
[02:29] <AnAnt> I suspect that it is some resolution issue or so, is there a way to regenerate the splash screen ?
[02:30] <AnAnt> here's /etc/usplash.conf :
[02:30] <AnAnt> xres=1280
[02:30] <AnAnt> yres=800
[03:32] <zul> hi
[05:57] <bernard_> does anybody know where the definitions of _syscall{0..6} have gone in recent linux-kernel-headers packages?
[06:17] <infinity> bernard_: Use syscall(), not _syscall magic numbers.
[06:20] <infinity> bernard_: For instance: http://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-cluster/2005-June/msg00127.html
[06:28] <bernard_> ahh, thanks infinity.
[07:18] <mjg59> BenC: Did you get the Broadcom patch I sent?
[07:19] <BenC> mjg59: Yeah
[07:20] <BenC> infinity: Any last minute ati/nvidia updates needed for lrm?
[07:31] <BenC> now this is going to take awhile
[07:33] <tfheen> BenC: if possible, I'd like a short blurb about new&shiny stuff in the kernel for the release announcement.  Just two-three lines about what great new stuff is in from dapper.
[07:34] <tfheen> s/from/since/
[07:34] <BenC> tfheen: ok
[07:34] <tfheen> BenC: email's fine, and there's no hurry with it, I just remembered.
[07:35] <BenC> mjg59: Could you create a bug about the bcm43xx patch...help me justify it
[07:41] <mjg59> BenC: It fixes the deadlocks with bcm43xx systems
[07:41] <mjg59> There's already a bug open
[07:52] <BenC> mjg59: ok


[01:39] <kadiro> hello
[01:41] <kadiro> I want help about lirc
[14:02] <djtravz> Hello, I am doing a new installation of xubuntu and installing windows alongside. I can't resize the partition more than 32 mb. Why is this?
[14:04] <diogenes_> djtravz, first install win then xubuntu
[14:05] <djtravz> I will need to resize the partitions after I install windows
[14:05] <djtravz> So I want to make sure that I can before I go through with too much effort in installation
[14:07] <diogenes_> install win the from win with the help of easeus partition manager create free space.
[14:09] <djtravz> Once I have them both installed, if I need more space in either one of them I want to make sure that I can still resize both of their partitions
[16:18] <hans_> got an old computer from 2005 running 17.10, a couple of months ago an update made the start menu and desktop icons disappear
[16:19] <hans_> i tested 18.04 in live, and 18.04 is also affected
[16:19] <hans_> it's running an ancient nvidia GPU, i tested both the nvidia legacy gpu driver and the X-org driver, didn't make a difference
[16:21] <diogenes_> hans_, and the question is?
[16:21] <hans_> any idea how to make the start-menu visible again?
[16:22] <hans_> (and the desktop icons)
[16:22] <diogenes_> by start menu you mean whisker menu?
[16:22] <hans_> sure, the 1 that opens when you press the windows button
[16:23] <diogenes_> right click on the panel > panel > add new item and look for whisker menu there
[16:23] <hans_> https://i.imgur.com/LvpgAmD.png
[16:24] <hans_> its configured, it's there according to the panel configuration thing
[16:24] <hans_> ... but it's not visible
[16:24] <hans_> i guess it crash while attempting to start or something
[16:24] <diogenes_> in terminal run: sudo apt intstall -f
[16:25] <hans_> 0 everything, 0 to update 0 errors ~
[16:26] <diogenes_> then you got no broken packages, i's assume it's some misconfigs and a good start would be if you create a new user and login as the new use and see if everything works there.
[16:27] <hans_> i don't think that will make a difference as the xubuntu live system was also affected, but ok i will check
[16:28] <diogenes_> i've never had a problem with the live system.
[16:28] <hans_> ok i made a new user and logged in, same issue.
[16:28] <hans_> (did n't
[16:28] <hans_> (didn't make a difference)
[16:29] <brainwash> share your ~/.xsession-errors log file via a pastebin service
[16:31] <hans_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Q524SCWm5G/
[16:31] <hans_> (that's from the brand new user, first time login)
[16:34] <brainwash> is xfce4-panel running as process? or xfdesktop
[16:35] <hans_> yes both of them, according to ps -A | grep -i xfce4
[16:35] <hans_> both of them are running
[16:38] <brainwash> ohh. the panel should be running, you only miss the menu.
[16:38] <brainwash> those wrapper-2.0 entries in the log file are related to whiskermenu
[16:38] <hans_> (i miss the desktop icons as well)
[16:39] <brainwash> desktop icons are handled by xfdesktop
[16:39] <brainwash> open a terminal window and run "killall xfdesktop; xfdesktop"
[16:39] <brainwash> see if that gives any output
[16:40] <hans_> as root or as logged in user?
[16:40] <brainwash> as user
[16:41] <brainwash> you can try with xfdesktop --enable-debug  too
[16:41] <brainwash> that will print additional debug output
[16:41] <hans_> error: no protocol specified
[16:41] <hans_> (without --enable-debug)
[16:41] <hans_> it said more than that but the rest is localized to norwegian
[16:41] <hans_> .. should i try to translate that back to english?
[16:42] <hans_> roughly translated: could not understand the arguments: could not open the screen
[16:43] <brainwash> for that you can use LC_ALL=C
[16:44] <brainwash> like this: LC_ALL=C xfdesktop
[16:44] <hans_> set that as an enviorment variable before starting xfdesktop?
[16:44] <brainwash> or export it beforehand
[16:44] <hans_> kk
[16:47] <hans_> now it said (xfdesktop:2679): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. \n Using the fallback 'C' locale. \n Failed to parse arguments: Cannot open display: (blank, but i get the feeling that it would put a display name/identifier here if it had 1)
[16:47] <hans_> oh sorry
[16:47] <hans_> i forgot a line
[16:48] <hans_> it also said: No protocol Specified
[16:48] <brainwash> mmh
[16:48] <hans_> on the line before it said "Failed to parse arguments"
[16:48] <brainwash> can you make it work by specifying the display?
[16:48] <brainwash> DISPLAY=:0 xfdesktop
[16:49] <hans_> yup
[16:49] <hans_> now it started but gave a lot of errors (but still running)
[16:50] <brainwash> errors or just warning?
[16:50] <brainwash> warnings
[16:51] <brainwash> I think xfdesktop tends to print quite some theming related warnings
[16:51] <hans_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sQQrtWDcNn/
[16:52] <hans_> that's what i got (but it's still running)
[16:53] <brainwash> I guess the next step would be to see what the xfce settings daemon does
[16:53] <brainwash> XFSETTINGSD_DEBUG=1 xfsettingsd --replace --no-daemon
[16:54] <brainwash> it's responsible for setting up the environment
[16:55] <hans_> sorry busy a bit, checking if Lubuntu 18.10 is affected
[16:55] <brainwash> lubuntu?
[16:55] <hans_> yes, much like Xubuntu it's an ubuntu-based distro based on... LXDE, iirc
[16:56] <hans_> (its
[16:56] <brainwash> I know that
[16:56] <brainwash> but why not check with xubuntu 18.10 or 19.04 (dev)?
[17:00] <hans_> because now i know that it's not XFCE-specific and not Xubuntu-specific: original Xubuntu 17.10 is not affected, fully up-to-date 17.10 is affected, Xubuntu 18.04 is affected, and Lubuntu 18.10 is affected
[17:03] <brainwash> probably not that easy to go back and try to reproduce the bug again
[17:03] <brainwash> as 17.10 is not supported anymore
[17:03] <hans_> right, but 18.04 is also affeccted
[17:03] <hans_> is Xubuntu 16.04 supported?
[17:04] <brainwash> the update history of the 17.10 installation could be useful
[17:05] <brainwash> Xubuntu 16.04 is supported for 3 years
[17:06] <hans_> meaning support ended like a couple of days ago?
[17:06] <brainwash> pretty much I would guess
[17:06] <brainwash> the Ubuntu core (main repository) has support for 5 years
[17:08] <brainwash> so, you need to somehow pinpoint the update which breaks the desktop
[17:09] <brainwash> also, the output of this command may give a hint:
[17:09] <brainwash> XFSETTINGSD_DEBUG=1 xfsettingsd --replace --no-daemon
[17:11] <brainwash> update history is located in /var/log/apt/
[17:11] <brainwash> if still present
[17:12] <hans_> is it normal that it use a long time to execute? xfsettingsd
[17:12] <hans_> it has printed a lot of info but then just kinda froze
[17:12] <hans_> still running but not outputting anything
[17:15] <hans_> here is what it has printed so far, but it's still running: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rHM2xX5n2B/
[17:16] <brainwash> it should keep running
[17:17] <brainwash> can you start xfdesktop now from another terminal window?
[17:17] <brainwash> without DISPLAY
[17:18] <brainwash> killall xfdesktop; xfdesktop
[17:19] <hans_> in the middle of a reboot but once it starts, sure
[17:20] <brainwash> I mean after starting xfsettingsd manually
[17:20] <brainwash> it seemed to launch fine according to the output
[17:20] <hans_> yup will do
[17:21] <brainwash> with that I assume that xfdesktop should launch without issues also
[17:23] <hans_> got no output when running xfdesktop
[17:23] <hans_> i assume it daemonized
[17:23] <hans_> yup its running in the background
[17:24] <brainwash> with icons visible?
[17:25] <hans_> no
[17:25] <hans_> icons are still invisible
[17:25] <hans_>  / not present
[17:25] <brainwash> maybe another
[17:25] <brainwash> killall xfdesktop; xfdesktop
[17:27] <hans_> i added -w to that command, but nothing
[17:27] <hans_> no output and no icons
[17:27] <hans_> (i have confirmed with thunar that there is a text file on the desktop that should be a dedicated icon, if nothing else)
[17:28] <hans_> (thunar can see the files there as it should, when running thunar from the terminal)
[17:30] <hans_> btw a long time ago i learned that as a general rule of thumb, it's a good habit to add -w to your killall command, because by default killall does not wait until it's actually dead, that's what the -w flag does, and commands like `killall xfdesktop; xfdesktop` may try to start a new instance of xfdesktop before the previous has exited
[17:32] <hans_> (reminds me of "avoiding race conditions" in multithreaded programs :p)
[17:32] <brainwash> not really sure what to suggest at this point
[17:33] <brainwash> any luck with checking the update history?
[17:33] <brainwash> 17.10 is dead, so it's not easy to check for changes online
[17:33] <brainwash> as info about that release has been removed mostly
[17:36] <brainwash> other than that, you could do some testing with a different distribution
[17:37] <brainwash> you mentioned that the computer is from 2005
[17:40] <hans_> |-/var/log/apt/term.log: text/plain: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/TIMQhYSyRG7lQ8j2ATvXhA/raw?password=FmzCPPTd1FESETA82_zv
[17:40] <hans_> |-/var/log/apt/history.log: text/plain: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/2YBhC~dq7OqCy3ba2NKy2A/raw?password=iFdnhC6RkoKWRO05GiIz
[17:41] <hans_> here is a list of everything in the folder but with a lot of noise.. i can decompress everything if there's interest: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/owozYhTHLDyctYJtEaMKoA/raw?password=-mW7Op8iqY4JKY37x2Ck&fbclid=IwAR3-KlfQOLk-pL_ZjtTM-dJMQIOOAjEoMUjlqx7dMX8yHMz-u5gyfUxxeCM
[17:41] <hans_> but..
[17:42] <hans_> both of those logs on show stuff after the problem occured, i have to decompress the other stuff and maybe it's in there
[17:42] <hans_> (logs from when the problem ocurred)
[17:42] <brainwash> indeed
[17:42] <brainwash> 2019-04-14
[17:42] <brainwash> that's not relevant
[17:43] <hans_> .. is there a command to just decompress every .gz file in a folder?
[17:43] <gnrp> hans_: `for file in *.gz; do gunzip "${file}"; done`
[17:43] <gnrp> ur `gunzip *.gz` should also work, I see...
[17:44] <brainwash> 17.10 was supported until july 2018
[17:45] <brainwash> that should be the last date for updates
[17:46] <brainwash> you installed a bunch of remaining updates today
[17:46] <brainwash> so, when was the last time you applied updates?
[17:47] <brainwash> I would assume before july 2018
[17:56] <hans_> yeah i installed all remaining updates today, hoping that would fix everything; it didn't
[17:57] <hans_> here is links to most of the logs if anyone is curious, but i cba atm, testing if debian is affected. https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/IGOUTuG37a3enuS8t2-~xw/raw?password=sXcjp3c7aefDTRx476H4&fbclid=IwAR2oe2ZH9Cdvv2oJalQZ-cMYxJUwbBAwfaQCVJF8Dd2l6NuE9DEccyKEABs
[18:03] <brainwash> history.log.1 2018-11-17
[18:04] <brainwash> the first thing I would try it to boot with an older kernel version
[18:04] <brainwash> from the grub boot menu
[18:05] <hans_> i will try that, it has a lot of older kernels unpurged
[18:05] <hans_> but right now it's busy resizing the ext4 partition
[18:07] <hans_> (.. to be fair, it said "this operation may take a long time, are you sure?")
[18:08] <brainwash> okay
[18:08] <brainwash> but why do that while still debugging the problem?
[18:11] <hans_> because i'm making a dedicated partition for a debian installation to see if debian is also affected. i was probably stupid to not just try the debian-live system, but i couldn't find a live-version of the "non-free/cd-including-firmware/"-builds of debian and.. stuff
[18:13] <hans_> ok the resize is finished and i aborted the installation and booted back to xubuntu, but it's either set to hide the ask-for-kernel-menu (yes, it's an option to hide the menu while still having a countdown, and on some ubuntu distros that's even the default behaviour, which i find.. stupid), or it's set to 0-second-timeout (instant boot without asking), i'm not sure which yet
[18:14] <brainwash> you have to press Shift after the BIOS phase
[18:14] <hans_> Shift, gotcha
[18:14] <brainwash> well, hold it
[18:15] <hans_> great now it asked me
[18:16] <hans_> got -16 -17 -19 -21 -25 -32 -39 -46
[18:16] <hans_> before that they are all 4.13.0-
[18:16] <hans_> and after that they are all -generic then 50% of them are (recovery mode)
[18:16] <hans_> guess i should just try -16 then?
[18:16] <brainwash> -46 was installed on 2018-11-17
[18:17] <brainwash> should be the one that potentially broke the desktop
[18:18] <brainwash> furthermore, intel-microcode was pulled in on that day too
[18:18] <hans_> that could be related, it has an intel cpu iirc (don't remember which)
[18:19] <hans_> Intel Core 2 6300 @ 1.86GHz according to /proc/cpuinfo
[18:21] <brainwash> removing intel-microcode may be something worth testing also
[18:21] <hans_> oddly the reboot sequence got noticably slower after the partition resize
[18:22] <hans_> (i didn't remove space from the start, i removed space from the end of the partition)
[18:22] <brainwash> I think it was added automatically in 2018 due to the recent intel vulnerabilities
[18:22] <brainwash> but that CPU is way too old for any new patches anyway
[18:23] <hans_> uhm
[18:23] <brainwash> does the older kernel make the desktop work?
[18:25] <hans_> is this a bad time to add that i added "nokaslr nopti" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub a long time ago? (long before the desktop broke)
[18:26] <brainwash> not quite sure what those two change
[18:26] <hans_> take away some of the overhead of the KAISER/SPECTRE mitigations, iirc
[18:26] <hans_> .. but is unsafe
[18:27] <hans_> (as in, makes it easier for a hacker trying to exploit those vulnerabilities)
[18:27] <brainwash> but for that mitigation to have any effect you would need the proper cpu firmware, no?
[18:28] <hans_> i think they're software solutions to hardware problems, unrelated to firmware
[18:28] <hans_> anyway, both the -16 kernel and the -39 kernel are affected still, they make no difference :(
[18:28] <kadiro> hello, I need to install an old kernel ( ex 4.8 ) but apt-cache gives me only 4.15 and so
[18:28] <hans_> brainwash, should i try `apt remove intel-microcode` ?
[18:28] <hans_> (and reboot?)
[18:29] <brainwash> hans_: sure. it's possible that the initramfs for -16 was updated to include the new microcode.
[18:29] <brainwash> but it would be pretty odd if that's the reason for the breakage
[18:30] <hans_> running that it wants to also remove linux-generic and linux-image-generic
[18:30] <brainwash> indeed
[18:30] <hans_> "the following additional blah blah"
[18:30] <hans_> should i continue?
[18:30] <brainwash> it's a new dependency
[18:30] <brainwash> you can reinstall linux-generic and linux-image-generic later
[18:30] <brainwash> those are meta packages
[18:30] <hans_> kk
[18:30] <hans_> ok i removed them, should i reboot now or
[18:31] <brainwash> right
[18:31] <brainwash> kadiro: why do you need 4.8?
[18:31] <hans_> i also removed the custom kernel boot options (on the basis that, as non-default configurations they're probably less tested)
[18:31] <kadiro> brainwash, for a specific module that was working but the new kernel replaced it
[18:32] <hans_> kadiro, named?
[18:32] <kadiro> hans_, lirc_serial was replaced with serial_ir
[18:33] <brainwash> I don't think that using an unsupported kernel version is the way to go
[18:34] <hans_> brainwash, come to think of it, the nopti option is automatically applied if the kernel bugs flags say they don't need it, iirc
[18:34] <kadiro> brainwash, the problem that i fellow all the guides, docs, helps without success
[18:34] <hans_> .. removing intel-microcode and the custom boot options did nothing, problem is still present :(
[18:34] <kadiro> i tried ir-keytable to replace lirc but nothing happen
[18:34] <hans_> brainwash, kernel cpu bugs flags*
[18:35] <hans_> ok, i guess i should go back to the debian test?
[18:35] <brainwash> probably
[18:36] <kadiro> I was thinking that my remote control is no longer work but the command mode2 still gives result also cat /dev/lirc0 and using my remote gives output and tested on windows just work out of a box
[18:37] <kadiro> I lost my mind
[18:37] <brainwash> you probably need to contact the module devs
[18:38] <brainwash> installing 4.8 in ubuntu 18.04 may be possible, but it may be a bad idea
[18:39] <brainwash> especially when you have that system connected to the internet
[18:39] <kadiro> yeah i know that but i have no choice
[18:40] <kadiro> 3 days without sleep trying to solve that problem and still no success
[18:40] <kadiro> thank you brainwash for your help
[18:42] <kadiro> In the docs they say that the new kernels can talk directly with any devices using ir-keytable but i can't make it happen
[18:44] <brainwash> kadiro: did you find this? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2403337
[18:46] <kadiro> brainwash, yes i did
[19:26] <hans_> brainwash, in case you're curious, Debian 9.8 with xfce desktop was also affected
[19:27] <brainwash> kernel version?
[19:28] <hans_> is there some easy-ish way to check from the kernel?
[19:28] <hans_> err, check from the iso*
[19:28] <brainwash> internet says 4.9
[19:30] <hans_> probably correct
[19:30] <hans_> found references to Package: btrfs-modules-4.9.0-8-686-di
[19:30] <hans_> in the iso
[19:30] <hans_> so 4.9 yeah
[19:31] <hans_> ok found this in the iso: Depends: kernel-image-4.9.0-8-686-di, crc-modules-4.9.0-8-686-di, md-modules-4.9.0-8-686-di
[19:33] <brainwash> not sure how much more time you want to invest into this
[19:33] <brainwash> you could test with a non debian based distro
[19:33] <brainwash> or with something from before 2018
[19:34] <brainwash> and then apply updates step by step
[20:51] <KernelP8901> Morning/Evening All. I have a Atom Intel stick. It's a 32 bit UEFI and a 64bit CPU. I managed to get the OS to live boot by adding the 32bit EFI files to the USB however it's failing to install grub during the install process. I have manually added pool\main\g\grub2\grub-efi-ia32_2.02+dfsg1-5ubuntu8_i386 to try and resolve the issue but installer fails. Any ideas/advice on how to get this installed? Thanks :)
[21:02] <hans_> you're installing ubuntu to a usb stick?
[21:02] <hans_> (well, xubuntu)
[21:02] <hans_> KernelP8901, ^
[21:02] <KernelP8901> @hans_ from
[21:03] <KernelP8901> Install media is USB and storage is EMMC
[21:04] <hans_> have you tried 32bit xubuntu btw? does that install cleanly? (xubuntu still has 32bit systems)
[21:05] <hans_> (probabky not what you want but it'd still be interesting)
[21:06] <KernelP8901> That's the ISO I was using. I am now trying the AMD64 Xubuntu Beta (19.04) and this time I was lucky enough to find my USB3 to HDMI, VGA, Ethernet, USB 2.0 adapter so it can get online and download packages not included in the ISO