[00:00] <nacc> Exterminador: a) why are you running as root? b) what does dmesg say after that (should have a trace of the SEGV)
[00:01] <Epx998> nacc: yeah I think it just built with 5.1.14 - at least how i did it
[00:01] <nacc> Epx998: i'd file a bug with debian then :)
[00:01] <Exterminador> last command i've done before git pull failure: cat /etc/letsencrypt/live/irc.ptirc.org/cert.pem | sudo tee -a /etc/postfix/cacert.pem
[00:01] <Epx998> vdfuse.c version 83 - dont know what the latest is
[00:02] <nacc> Epx998: you might request it in ubuntu too, but it'd be up to the virtualbox maintainers at this point
[00:03] <Exterminador> nacc: thats the only output i have on wget
[00:04] <nacc> Exterminador: nothing in dmesg?
[00:04] <Exterminador> erm, where's that?
[00:05] <nacc> Exterminador: run the command 'dmesg'
[00:05] <nacc> Exterminador: look for 'segfault'
[00:05] <nacc> Exterminador: e.g., dmesg | grep segfault or dmesg | less and search
[00:08] <Exterminador> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24093230/
[00:09] <nacc> Exterminador: those are OOMs, which wouldn't show up as segmentation faults
[00:09] <Exterminador> then what could be?
[00:10] <nacc> Exterminador: that was all that was in dmesg? or did you edit it?
[00:10] <Exterminador> thats all
[00:11] <nacc> Exterminador: otherwise i'm not sure; you could try running in gdb or so and debugging
[00:11] <Exterminador> its a vps
[00:11] <Exterminador> i cant try to reboot it
[00:11] <nacc> Exterminador: this is normal ubuntu? `lsb_release -a`, `uname -a` in a pastebin
[00:13] <Exterminador> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24093240/
[00:14] <nacc> Exterminador: that's not ubuntu
[00:14] <nacc> Exterminador: well, it is, but with an ancient kerenl
[00:14] <nacc> Exterminador: you should aks your VPS provider for support
[00:14] <tgm4883> sheesh
[00:14] <OerHeks>  2.6.32 .. looks like vagrant?
[00:15] <tgm4883> VPS is never straight ubuntu is it
[00:15] <nacc> tgm4883: i hate them all because of issues like this :)
[00:15] <nacc> tgm4883: makes Ubuntu look terrible :/
[00:15] <Exterminador> it was working untill very recently
[00:16] <tgm4883> nacc: exactly. And people wonder why Canonical goes after these VPS's that do this crap....
[00:17] <nacc> tgm4883: yep
[00:21] <tpw_rules> so i broke dns on my ubuntu 16.04 server after configuring my interfaces file to have multiple IPs. that file: http://pastebin.com/KVsrK6Q9 if the last four lines are commented out, it works great. with them there, i can't resolve anything. i can ssh in and ping by IP out so it's not like a complete failure of networking
[00:23] <effectnet> hello
[00:24] <lucas__> Hello everyone, i need help to create a custom kernel vertion, i want make focus in to security.
[00:25] <OerHeks> twp_rules i see no netmask ?
[00:26] <genii> tpw_rules: If you're using the same interface, after the first one is defined, I'm pretty sure following ones based on it need to be like ens18:1  ens18:2  and so on
[00:26] <OerHeks> lucas__, custom kernels, you build them yourself
[00:26] <tpw_rules> genii: i was told not to. it didn't seem to work when i did it that way, but i can try again
[00:26] <Exterminador> weird, that i have a vps with almost same kernel and all working great
[00:26] <tpw_rules> like it didn't work as in i had only one IP. the other two were ignored
[00:27] <genii> tpw_rules: This may have changed since I needed to use such things
[00:27] <tpw_rules> OerHeks: it's implied by the /24
[00:27] <OerHeks> lucas__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[00:28] <tgm4883> Exterminador: not sure why that's weird, we're not saying the kernel is the problem, just that your VPS screwed with the image so they need to support it
[00:28] <Exterminador> ohh, okay
[00:28] <tpw_rules> yeah if i do the colons it just doesn't work at all
[00:28] <tpw_rules> the other two IPs are ignored
[00:29] <lucas__> Thanks, i coming for this. I want custom the kernel for create a multilabel IPS.
[00:34] <Exterminador> erm.. using android phone to do the wget, get segmentation fault.. via pc terminal goes fine :O
[00:38] <SPeedY> anyone alive?
[00:38] <SPeedY> am trying to use the ping sweeper bash script, but wondering if its possible to scan a range of IPs with by requesting user input
[00:51] <gh0stpirate> test
[00:57] <qc170422> which package contain emacs manual in info format?
[00:58] <aelsilmare> I would apt list | grep emacs info
[00:58] <qc170422> i tried but no result i want
[00:58] <aelsilmare> maybe there's a ppa? not sure
[00:59] <aelsilmare> I men the standard installation of emacs23 comes with an extensive info file
[00:59] <aelsilmare> also you can try /usr/share/doc/emacs
[01:00] <qc170422> i am using emacs 25 and ubuntu 17.04
[01:00] <aelsilmare> a little above my league I stay with LTS
[01:00] <tgm4883> qc170422: then you should be in #ubuntu+1
[01:00] <aelsilmare> but any docs you need that arent in info are in /usr/share/doc
[01:02] <aelsilmare> what specifically is your question about emacs
[01:02] <aelsilmare> ?
[01:03] <jason_-> is the Xorg.0.log file for display 0?
[01:03] <qc170422> it is not in /usr/share/doc
[01:03] <aelsilmare> I think it's for all displays
[01:03] <aelsilmare> let me apt list a few things and get back to you qc
[01:04] <OerHeks> jason_-, no, logrotate gives that number, as it is an previous xorg.log
[01:04] <qc170422> thx
[01:05] <BlahBlahBlahBlah> qc170422: if you know where is the info file located. You can try with dpkg -S /path/to/emacs.info
[01:05] <aelsilmare> I mean you really should have an info file did you remember to type info -f emacs?
[01:06] <chu> qc170422: I have (for instance) the Gnus info manual in /usr/share/info/ - emacs25 on 16.10
[01:07] <tgm4883> assuming 25 is the same as 24, it's at /usr/share/info/emacs-24/emacs.info.gz
[01:07] <qc170422> BlahBlahBlahBlah: it shall be in /usr/share/info , but it isn't
[01:07] <tgm4883> qc170422: it's at /usr/share/info/emacs-25/emacs.info.gz
[01:08] <aelsilmare> I mean if you're missing the info file you could always apt-get remove and then apt-get install it again...maybe you just lost the info file
[01:08] <qc170422> tgm4883: there is only efaq.info.gz in that dir
[01:09] <tgm4883> qc170422: what's the output of 'dpkg -l | grep emac'
[01:09] <aelsilmare> I never installed a special doc package...as far as I know the info file comes with emacs...I mean it's possible that emacs25 is undocumented it's very new
[01:09] <tgm4883> aelsilmare: it's there
[01:09] <chu> Nah, I have emacs25 on 16.10 with the documentation - /usr/share/info/emacs.info.gz
[01:10] <qc170422> tgm4883: ii  emacs                  46.1ubuntu1      all              GNU Emacs editor (metapackage)
[01:10] <aelsilmare> oh cool so you got the info file?
[01:10] <qc170422> ii  emacs25                25.1+1-2ubuntu2  amd64            GNU Emacs editor (with GTK+ GUI support)
[01:10] <qc170422> ii  emacs25-bin-common     25.1+1-2ubuntu2  amd64            GNU Emacs editor's shared, architecture dependent
[01:10] <qc170422> ii  emacs25-common         25.1+1-2ubuntu2  all              GNU Emacs editor's shared, architecture independe
[01:10] <qc170422> ii  emacs25-el             25.1+1-2ubuntu2  all              GNU Emacs LISP (.el) files
[01:10] <qc170422> ii  emacsen-common         2.0.8            all              Common facilities for all emacsen
[01:10] <tgm4883> !pastebin | qc170422
[01:10] <tgm4883> aelsilmare: I'm looking at the package contents
[01:10] <tgm4883> aelsilmare: specifically, 	emacs25-common-non-dfsg
[01:10] <tgm4883> but he really needs to be in #ubuntu+1
[01:11] <aelsilmare> yeah yeah extract emacs.info.gc with tar xvzf
[01:11] <tgm4883> qc170422: you want to try that again in a pastebin
[01:13] <qc170422> !pastebin
[01:15] <qc170422> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24093454/
[01:15] <tgm4883> qc170422: you're missing 	emacs25-common-non-dfsg
[01:16] <aelsilmare> yeah qc try sudo apt-get check
[01:16] <aelsilmare> might fic it
[01:17] <tgm4883> he just needs to apt install it
[01:17] <aelsilmare> right prob not a dependency
[01:17] <qc170422> tgm4883: thank you , i got it
[01:17] <qc170422> thank you very much guys
[01:18] <tgm4883> qc170422: good. Now take future questions to #ubuntu+1
[01:18] <aelsilmare> np its wat were here for
[01:18] <qc170422> tgm4883: ok
[01:18] <aelsilmare> ya running a bleeding edge ubuntu like that...youre kinda asking for issues
[01:20] <aelsilmare> hey all can I get a vote on best minimal dm?
[01:20] <aelsilmare> I like fluxbox and afterstep
[01:21] <aelsilmare> I mean wm lol
[01:21] <tgm4883> !best | aelsilmare
[01:22] <aelsilmare> lxde is cool but its got problems
[01:22] <aelsilmare> I mean fluxbox is frikken so cool its very minimal
[01:26] <redrabbit>  /j #linux-wireless
[01:26] <redrabbit> oops
[01:29] <cheako> Launchpad is having a problem compiling binaries on precise.
[01:30] <cheako> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/309340316/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.dpkg_1.17.27_BUILDING.txt.gz
[01:31] <tgm4883> cheako: might want to ask in #launchpad
[01:31] <cheako> thnx
[01:37] <jason_-> can someone look at my .xsession-errors log? I'm stuck in a login loop in lightdm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24093544/
[01:37] <tgm4883> jason_-: does a guest session work?
[01:41] <europegirl> Israeli NGO Helping Migrant Boats Reach Europe's Shores, Instructs Them Where to Go ( https://youtu.be/e20uZBuGfvw )
[01:41] <europegirl> Nothing shocks me any more.
[01:42] <jason_-> I can't actually check at the moment I'm accessing remotely. If I login with x11 forwarding I can start graphical programs and they display fine.
[01:43] <only8520_> ？
 You have to get support from the people that make the distro you are trying to install
[01:56] <cfhowlett> aelsilmare, off-topic.
[01:56] <aelsilmare> lol off topic ok i guess...
[01:57] <Pythagoras_> im just trying to make sure im not ruining everything on my computer
[01:57] <Pythagoras_> if you guys would be so kind
[01:57] <Chiuoi> They say "the winner's write history," it is absolutely true, and the most egregious example in modern times has to be the mainstream (mis)understanding of Adolf Hitler and pre-WWII Germany.
[01:57] <tgm4883> Pythagoras_: by installing antix?
[01:58] <Pythagoras_> well
[01:58] <Pythagoras_> i have very little experience with terminal
[01:58] <cfhowlett> Pythagoras_, we were kind.  go to your distro's support channel for info on installing antix
[01:58] <Pythagoras_> and this linux distro uses a CLI installer
[01:58] <Pythagoras_> its all terminal or whatever
[01:58] <Pythagoras_> someone recommended this to me
[01:58] <tgm4883> Pythagoras_: and...?
[01:58] <Pythagoras_> i think they were messing with me
[01:58] <tgm4883> Pythagoras_: someone recommended antix to you?
[01:59] <Pythagoras_> and.... im pressing around in this terminal trying to install it and i dont know what 3/4 of it is
[01:59] <aelsilmare> ok so you corrupte your filesystem?  does it boot?
[01:59] <Pythagoras_> yea
[01:59] <Pythagoras_> well
[01:59] <Pythagoras_> yea
[01:59] <Pythagoras_> i changed the boot order to usb
[01:59] <Pythagoras_> first
[01:59] <Pythagoras_> im trying to install it from usb
[01:59] <tgm4883> Pythagoras_: well if you're trying to install antix, and you're in their environment. Why do you think you can get support in the #ubuntu channel?
[01:59] <Pythagoras_> idk if the OS would run if i changed it back
[02:00] <Pythagoras_> because no one in antix is responding
[02:00] <aelsilmare> ok...my best recommendation is to get a slackware linux boot image either on cd or usb...good diagnostic system
[02:00] <tgm4883> Pythagoras_: oh, nobody in their channel is responding. That's reasonable that you think that any other channel would do. Have you tried https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/contactus/
[02:00] <aelsilmare> first run "fdisk -l" which will list all your disks and parititions and their fs types
[02:01] <tgm4883> Pythagoras_: first rule of any OS. If you don't know what you're doing, use one that has a support base
[02:01] <karnisones> http://www.renegadetribune.com/federal-reserve-explained-3-minutes/
[02:01] <aelsilmare> I mean I use Slackware Linux boot cds for any computer trouble I have
[02:03] <aelsilmare> so run "fdisk -l", see what the filesystem type of your main partition is...if its anything other than ext4, you need a fresh install of some operating systen
[02:06] <aelsilmare> I know nothing about this a n t i x but to be honest I recomment you stay with ubuntu unless this os provides you with some amazing feature that ubuntu dosn't, which I doubt
[02:08] <gelei007> #git
[02:13] <scootergrisen_> When i change language in Unity settings it seems i have to drag and drop the language up into the top of the list. Is this correct?
[02:14] <Pythagoras_> do i need ext4? or is it ok i leave it deleted?
[02:14] <cfhowlett> if your OS needs ext4, it will format ext4 during installation
[02:19] <fishcooker> i have ASUS RS120-E3/PA2 with raid disk error i've got this http://vpaste.net/utKkb which disk should i take the left or the right one?
[02:20] <OerHeks> sdb fails
[02:22] <fishcooker> yes i have two slot disks.. then it should be the right one
[02:26] <coffeeguy> hi how are the ubuntu drivers for the gtx 1050?
[02:30] <Ben^> Hey. I think I may have accidentally deleted the wrong directory when I deleted something. My filesystem is ext3. Can anyone think of a way to recover the directory name? Not worried about the content (yet), just need to know what I deleted.
[02:30] <cfhowlett> why would you have ext3?  ext4 has been the default for years and for reason??
[02:31] <Kali_Yuga> hi I tried to install retropie... it didn't work so I uninstalled it and moved the leftover things from my home folder to the trash can. Now I can't empty the trash because it tells me access denied, which has something to do with dependecies that were missing. how do I empty my trash can now? http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=34721560
[02:31] <cfhowlett> if you deleted via terminal, check your history: up arrow
[02:31] <Kali_Yuga> dependencies*
[02:31] <Ben^> cfhowlett: Sorry, it is ext4.
[02:31] <tgm4883> retropie, doesn't look to be one of the supported flavors....
[02:31] <Ben^> cfhowlett: I deleted it using the web UI of my NAS
[02:32] <Ben^> cfhowlett: It doesn't have logs, I checked
[02:32] <cfhowlett> Ben^, ah, then I will be silent.  that is completely outside of my experience, but someone in channel should know
[02:32] <Bashing-om> coffeeguy: Depends .. what release are you running > see: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us now is the 375 version avail in the repo for you ? ' apt list nvidia-375 ' ; else, see: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[02:33] <Kali_Yuga> tgm4883: I installed retropie in ubuntu...
[02:33] <coffeeguy> thanks Bashing-om :)
[02:34] <tgm4883> Kali_Yuga: ah, sorry I thought it was only a distro
[02:34] <Ben^> Anyone? Possibility of recovering deleted file paths on ext4? Not so worried about contents
[02:35] <Kali_Yuga> i'll ask this way, how do I remove things from the trash can, when it tells me dependencies are missing...
[02:35] <Kali_Yuga> empty trash*
[02:36] <aelsilmare> apt-get check should fix all that...
[02:36] <tgm4883> what dependencies does it say are missing?
[02:36] <tgm4883> that seems weird to me
[02:36] <Bashing-om> coffeeguy: By the way - I also run nVidia card .. open source performs well ( in 16.04 / 17.04 )and I have no intention of installing a proprietary driver .
[02:36] <tgm4883> on the other hand, you could just delete the .trash folder
[02:37] <Ben64> Ben^: you just want the directories?
[02:37] <Ben^> Ben64: Yeah, as I'm not sure what it was I deleted
[02:37] <Ben64> use locate in a weird way
[02:37] <Ben^> O.o
[02:37] <Ben64> lets say you deleted something /var/www/html/buttercup
[02:38] <Ben64> locate /var/www/html/buttercup
[02:38] <Ben64> compare to what you see in the directory now
[02:38] <Ben^> I guess locate keeps a cache?
[02:38] <Ben64> theres a database that normally gets updated daily
[02:38] <Ben^> damn
[02:38] <Ben^> I don't have locate installed :/
[02:40] <Ben^> I'm not even positive I deleted anything. I right clicked on a directory and chose delete. The folder tree then re-rendered, as it does when something is removed, but the thing I deleted was still there; leading me to believe I clicked something else
[02:40] <just_jon> I bought a bunch of music through ubuntu one music store years ago, my backup device is gone,  can I get it from 7digital, or another source?
[02:41] <cfhowlett> I would assume you can from 7digital.  not sure how you would access your account there
[02:42] <santa_cruz> I have a quick questions which isn't entirely related to ubuntu, but maybe someone can help. I installed Elementary OS, and its awful. If I format the Elementary OS partition, can I just install Ubunutu on it. Will it mess with my MBR?
[02:42] <Kali_Yuga> I am also not able to restore the file to it's original location. An Error pops up with Access denied
[02:42] <sdjfsdfsdf> guys does this compromise the systems security?
[02:42] <sdjfsdfsdf> http://imgur.com/a/LmKxb
[02:42] <sdjfsdfsdf> is it safe?
[02:43] <gnomethrower> sdjfsdfsdf: Secure Boot is not what it sounds like
[02:43] <gnomethrower> it basically just stops you from running Linux properly
[02:43] <Kali_Yuga> santa_cruz: i think you can just format and reinstall
[02:43] <just_jon> I tried to do a google search for this issue, but I didn't see anything
[02:44] <sdjfsdfsdf> gnomethrower: so it doesnt matter?
[02:44] <sdjfsdfsdf> gnomethrower: you mean it wont compromise the security of my system?
[02:44] <santa_cruz> Kali, thanks
[02:45] <gnomethrower> sdjfsdfsdf: basically, no it won't.
[02:45] <gnomethrower> sdjfsdfsdf: It might help to know what it does - it restricts your computer in such a way that it can only boot signed bootloaders and firmware
[02:45] <Ben^> Awesome. I figured it out
[02:45] <Ben^> :D
[02:46] <gnomethrower> which apparently messes with third-party drivers
[02:46] <Ben^> I can live with deleting something by accident if I know what it was. It was the not knowing that was killing me!
[02:46] <gnomethrower> "Secure Boot prevents operating systems from booting unless they're signed by a key loaded into UEFI — out of the box, only Microsoft-signed software can boot."
[02:46] <RonWhoCares> My webcam keeps going out of focus.  Any suggestions?  It is a manual focus web cam
[02:47] <RonWhoCares> I don't understand why the focus should change; the lighting is constent
[02:48] <santa_cruz> Is it possible to check the integrity of a linux ISO on windows?
[02:48] <Ben^> RonWhoCares: Did you spill alcohol on it? :P
[02:48] <Kali_Yuga> would this work to force delete something in trash safe/secure ?  rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[02:48] <Ben^> Kali_Yuga: Secure? It would still be recoverable
[02:49] <sdjfsdfsdf> gnomethrower: perfect. Can you give me an example when it could effectively get compromise in terms of security?
[02:50] <Bashing-om> santa_cruz: See: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows .
[02:50] <Kali_Yuga> Ben^: I just have problems getting rid of something in the trash can. idc if its recoverable
[02:50] <Kali_Yuga> i'll just try
[02:50] <gnomethrower> sdjfsdfsdf: No, I cannot. Don't know enough about it to say.
[02:50] <gnomethrower> others in this chan may be of more help
[02:51] <Kali_Yuga> rm: cannot remove ‘/home/kali-yuga/.local/share/Trash/files/RetroPie-Setup/tmp/build/retroarch/memory/wii/mem2_manager.c’: Permission denied
[02:51] <Kali_Yuga> lot's of things that cannot be removed
[02:52] <Ben^> Kali_Yuga: Do it with sudo?
[02:52] <Ben^> Kali_Yuga: But if you do, specify the directory as /home/kali-yuga/.local/share/Trash/* (dont use ~)
[02:53] <Kali_Yuga> Ben^: dumb yeah sudo
[02:53] <Kali_Yuga> Ben^: sudo did the trick
[02:53] <Ben^> sweet
[02:53] <Kali_Yuga> thx sudo
[02:54] <Kali_Yuga> thx Ben^
[02:54] <Ben^> alias makeitwork='sudo'
[02:59] <RonWhoCares> Ben^: No.  The video starts off fine.  But goes gradually fuzzy
[03:00] <cfhowlett> RonWhoCares, is this cam internal/external?
[03:00] <RonWhoCares> cfhowlett: External USB
[03:01] <RonWhoCares> I just upgraded the processor from 2.0 GHz to 2.8 .  The problem remains
[03:01] <cfhowlett> my **guess** would be the driver
[03:02] <cfhowlett> but ... does if fail in all cam apps or not?
[03:03] <RonWhoCares> I'll try cheese right now
[03:03] <cfhowlett> or vlc
[03:03] <Kali_Yuga> usb cameras have drivers?
[03:03] <cfhowlett> some do, Kali_Yuga
[03:03] <KalEl> Hi... I am sorry but Ubuntu keeps showing an error message, I think it is failing some silent upgrade
[03:03] <RonWhoCares> This is happening in gucview
[03:04] <Speiros> Heya:)
[03:04] <iamfahad> Hello... :)
[03:04] <Kali_Yuga> KalEl: error messages would be helpful
[03:05] <Speiros> :)
[03:05] <cfhowlett> RonWhoCares, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#Testing_Your_Webcam_Using_Cheese
[03:05] <KalEl> It says something like "System problem detected"
[03:05] <Kali_Yuga> oh
[03:05] <Kali_Yuga> do this
[03:06] <KalEl> When I try to apt-get upgrade, it says "Try using -f"
[03:06] <KalEl> Should I paste what I see?
[03:06] <Kali_Yuga> KalEl: rm /var/crash/* with sudo
[03:06] <KalEl> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:07] <RonWhoCares> What I am using is an Asdom 615 HD
[03:07] <KalEl> libreoffice-style-elementary : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:5.1.4-0ubuntu1) but 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial1 is installed
[03:07] <KalEl> Ok
[03:07] <RonWhoCares> cfhowlett: So far Cheese is remaining focused
[03:07] <RonWhoCares> I will start a fresh video right now and let you know if Cheese works
[03:07] <cfhowlett> RonWhoCares, do some cheesy stuff to see if it holds up
[03:08] <KalEl> I just did what you said, and when I tried sudo apt-get upgrade the error message came back
[03:08] <KalEl> This time I could grab a screenshot: http://imgur.com/2U7p3eAl.png
[03:08] <Kali_Yuga> KalEl: seems like an dependency issue then... rm /var/crash/* only removes the crash reports
[03:09] <KalEl> Ok
[03:09] <harif_> e
[03:09] <KalEl> Should I remove libreoffice?
[03:09] <harif> whats up
[03:10] <KalEl> When I do apt-get upgrade -f it says "E: Invalid archive signature"
[03:10] <Kali_Yuga> so if i understand right, you tried an sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and this message pops up?
[03:10] <cfhowlett> KalEl, what exactly mentions libreoffice?
[03:10] <harif> Im new
[03:10] <harif> How are you
[03:10] <Kali_Yuga> hi harif
[03:10] <Speiros> Hi harif:)
[03:11] <KalEl> I don't know if pastebin is allowed on this channel but I uploaded it here: http://pastebin.com/v0JGrdQc
[03:11] <cfhowlett> harif, welcome.  this is the ubuntu support channel.  ask your questions here or jibberjabber in #ubuntu-offtopic.   That room is one I won't be visiting for a while.
[03:22] <mikeymop> theres no way to see what is was originally so it's a one way street
[03:22] <KalEl> Should I paste somewhere else? I hope google doc is okay
[03:23] <KalEl> I see this line: "libreoffice-style-elementary : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:5.1.4-0ubuntu1) but 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial1 is installed"
[03:23] <KalEl> (And the error message also popped up immediately)
[03:23] <Kali_Yuga> KalEl: no just be a little patient. since libreoffice seems to be broken anyway what happens if you try to remove libreoffice?
[03:24] <KalEl> Ok I will try "sudo apt-get remove libreoffice"
[03:25] <Kali_Yuga> i don't know what to do exactly either. I'm just guessing here
[03:25] <cfhowlett> purging LO is a legit experiment
[03:25] <allan_m> KalEl: perhaps because the version of the package causing the error is higher than your base libreoffice installation (<IP_ADDRESS>-rc2 vs <IP_ADDRESS> which is referenced in one of your msgs above) -- perhaps it requires a base install of the same version. (posted before but it was lost in the spam flood)
[03:25] <KalEl> Ok
[03:26] <KalEl> I wasn't successful in removing libreoffice by the way
[03:26] <KalEl> It says "libreoffice" not installed
[03:26] <KalEl> Nor did this work: http://anglehit.com/how-to-remove-libreoffice-from-ubuntu-linux-the-command-line-way/
[03:26] <reisio> maybe it's not installed
[03:27] <reisio> dpkg -l | grep -i office
[03:27] <KalEl> Ohh success
[03:27] <KalEl> "remove libreoffice-style-elementary" worked, I will check if there's any more errors
[03:27] <KalEl> Thanks!
[03:27] <OerHeks> try apt  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade #might fix your issue?
[03:28] <KalEl> apt-get upgrade now doesn't have any errors
[03:28] <KalEl> thanks
[03:28] <KalEl> it just says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[03:29] <Kali_Yuga> KalEl: good I'm glad
[03:29] <KalEl> thanks!
[03:30] <Bashing-om> KalEl: Also cheap insurance; ' sudo apt clean ' to remove the bad file from the cache .
[03:30] <RonWhoCares> cfhowlett: This appears to be just a uvcview problme.  Cheese worked fine.  (I don't know what guvcview has been smokin', but it's been some good stuff :p )
[03:31] <cfhowlett> RonWhoCares, fine detective work!
[03:31] <KalEl> Done... it didn't show any output though
[03:32] <KalEl> Interestingly LibreOffice is still installed. I can use it from menu
[03:32] <KalEl> I don't use it much though, I use Google Docs
[03:32] <KalEl> Would it break anything if I remove it? I have xubuntu
[03:32] <Speiros> What do you find the benefits/disadvantages, KalEl?
[03:33] <KalEl> I just didn't feel the need to use LibreOffice
[03:33] <cfhowlett> KalEl, won't break anything to purge LO
[03:33] <KalEl> Ok thanks
[03:34] <RonWhoCares> cfhowlett: Not more than a few months ago I switched to gucview because Cheese wasn't working right with my web cam
[03:34] <Bashing-om> KalEl: If there is no problem with a trminal command, there will be no response . the package " libreoffice-style-elementary " is not required ; see: ' apt show libreoffice-style-elementary ' . What you do with libreoffice is up to you .
[03:38] <RedPenguin> hello all
[03:38] <Aurorasaura> Can you copy a hard drive from Windows to Ubuntu server? Like physically putting the hard drive with the files onto a machine running Ubuntu server?
[03:38] <RedPenguin> I have a NIC Card bridge between two NICs, normally the connection works, but just had a power outage, PC could not connect with bridged TV Tuner until I rebooted again, anything I can do to fix?
[03:38] <RedPenguin> short power outage and PC rebooted I should say
[03:40] <RedPenguin> Though, the network DHCP server was still starting up as the PC rebooted, so no DHCP possibly caused?
[03:40] <mikeymop> what happens if I change the password for www-data
[03:40] <mikeymop> theres no way to see what is was originally so it's a one way street
[03:41] <Aurorasaura> Basically I have several 4tb drives full of movies that I put there on a windows machine and I want to just put the hard drives in the ubunbtu machine instead of transfering them over the network
[03:43] <Speiros> Aurorasaura Have you been able to access the files on the hard drive through other means?  I mean, separately to opening the Windows Operating System on the actual hard drive?
[03:44] <Speiros> Aurorasaura I mean, I use external hard drives, but I don't believe I have an operating system in the way to access them.  So I'm not 100% sure to say yes or now.
[03:44] <Speiros> no I mean
[03:44] <Aurorasaura> Yes on Windows I can see all the movies and stuff just fine. I just dont know if its possible to put it in the Ubuntu machine and copy them to the lvm.
[03:45] <Aurorasaura> I don't want to wait forever for a network transfer cause since it's just a file server I failed to remember to put a gigabit NIC in it.
[03:46] <Aurorasaura> Cause at this rate it will take 3 days to network transfer one drive :(
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> RedPenguin: perhaps ask the ##networking guys?
[03:49] <RedPenguin> lotuspsychje: will have to give that a try, hate to see the PC reboot when I am away and the bridged device not work all day until I return
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> mikeymop: playing with apache?
[03:52] <Speiros> Aurorasaura Yeah, I understand.  I don't know either, I'm sorry.  Someone else will hopefully have more experience there.
[03:53] <Aurorasaura> Thanks anyway Speiros :D
[03:54] <Speiros> :)
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> is there a trick on apt-cache to see the latest packages added on ubuntu repos?
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> would be nice to know what has been added new
[04:02] <reisio> lotuspsychje: probably /var/log/apt or someplace
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> reisio: i dont mean whats installed, also new packages to search right?
[04:04] <reisio> new packages in the repo?
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> reisio: yes
[04:34] <RonWhoCares> Another question
[04:35] <RonWhoCares> Is it better to have 8 gig of RAM @ 1066mhz OR 4gig of RAM @ 1600mhz
[04:35] <cfhowlett> !ping
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: ask in ##hardware
[04:37] <dax> 8GB of RAM at 1066mhz
[04:37] <dax> usually
[04:39] <carlyh> hru
[04:39] <carlyh> hey guys
[04:40] <carlyh> need some serious help on 2 totally different tasks
[04:40] <carlyh> First, I installed quassel last night to make coming to my favorite place (here) easier...
[04:40] <carlyh> It is a total disaster cant' acces the channels and the channserv bot keeps telling me I can't speak in some of the channels
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> dax: we thought you were lost in discuss, nice to see you back
[04:41] <dax> lotuspsychje: been taking weekends off recently, and not a huge amount of time for IRC in general
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> !register | carlyh
[04:43] <carlyh> lotuspsychje: Okay so that will allow me to register my name etc?
[04:43] <carlyh> and then I will pdate quassel with that registration info?
[04:43] <carlyh> \\
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> carlyh: yes, some channels need a register to enter
[04:43] <carlyh> great
[04:43] <carlyh> second issue i'
[04:44] <carlyh> am having is how the hell to set up quassel properly. I will get to that after I register.
[04:44] <carlyh> off  Igo, thanks guys
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> carlyh: hexchat is also pretty nice as client
[05:05] <guzzlefry> how can I fix a kworker thread that's using 100% CPU?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> guzzlefry: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[05:19] <carlyh> please tell me you guys can help me
[05:19] <carlyh> 1
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> carlyh: ask your question to the channel please
[05:19] <carlyh> wine is installed, need to download OneNote form microsoft
[05:20] <carlyh> and the tricks screen lists so many options i have no idea what to do
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> carlyh: there are some nice alternatives on ubuntu, did you try tomboy?
[05:22] <carlyh> I've already got wine installed, I just need it for a quick fix - to get an install of one item
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> carlyh: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2911
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> carlyh: download the setup, rightmouse install with wine
[05:23] <carlyh> lotuspsychje: i've got everything installed
[05:23] <jayjo> When I run sudo service jupyterhub start - i get no output whatsoever. Where can I inspect if this is doing anything at all
[05:24] <carlyh> but wine tricks isn't really giving me any option to instal microsoft products
[05:24] <guzzlefry> lotuspsychje: I'm on xubuntu 16.04
[05:24] <guzzlefry> It seems to be related to SD cards...
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> guzzlefry: system up to date to latest?
[05:24] <guzzlefry> It's been happening for a month or two.
[05:24] <carlyh> lotuspsychje: you say tomboy is a good alternative? i've deleted wine
[05:25] <guzzlefry> I think I did updates a little over 2 weeks ago.
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> carlyh: http://askubuntu.com/questions/303318/any-alternative-for-microsoft-onenote-in-ubuntu
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> guzzlefry: can you try sudp apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> *sudo
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> guzzlefry: after updates, try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your sd, check what kind of errors you getting
[05:27] <guzzlefry> lotuspsychje: how does full-upgrade differ from upgrade?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> guzzlefry: will get you to latest
[05:28] <silv3r_m00n> hi there i am running ubuntu 16.04 on server, and i created a file called vncserver in /etc/init.d/ directory and filled it with a vnc startup script, but when i do service vncserver start it says Failed to start vncserver.service: Unit vncserver.service not found.
[05:28] <silv3r_m00n> how do i fix this ?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> guzzlefry: lsb_release -a to check your version
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> silv3r_m00n: be carefull with vnc mate, try ssh instead
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | silv3r_m00n
[05:29] <silv3r_m00n> lotuspsychje: for now, i need vnc
[05:29] <silv3r_m00n> i just need to know how to fix that start error
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> silv3r_m00n: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might know more on it
[05:30] <guzzlefry> lotuspsychje: Is full-upgrade safe?
[05:30] <guzzlefry> This is my work box, can't risk anything going wrong with it.
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> guzzlefry: can you check lsb_release -a plz?
[05:31] <guzzlefry> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[05:31] <Guest35802> Hello
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> guzzlefry: you need to think the reverse way, when system is not updated your a risk
[05:31] <guzzlefry> eh
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> guzzlefry: but your on .2 thats already good!
[05:32] <Satyam2345> Ubuntu - OS for the retarded that can't configure debian. <3 DeaDSouL bipolar u0m3 CarlFK causative aotaointbin uks bac d0nn1e sicko Ricardus lewciie king1337-2 KsChoice beaver ilk ash_workz yabbes amonrahx stevenspasbo cyberspectre Wizek_ sorinello cnewcomer deathleff louiz marie1972 Delphin multi_io Aremis117 ssarah chrstphrchvz narindergupta raynold dv_ strive ritztech Spr1ng f10 kevinsan gcollura DenBeiren ehlim dax LinAGKar staplezebra ToeSnacks Muz
[05:32] <Satyam2345> Ubuntu - OS for the retarded that can't configure debian. <3 Southern_Gentlem hurricanehrndz l2y bcc milamber geoffb zzzgeoffb waltman antrax888 fyrril squig chuck_ DzAirmaX Pachurter Flannel Gzk^ SleePy n1ce rt flopsec shazzr hypnotic_ PaulW2U mewecoffeeX64 X-Rob Guest83605 YeahRight MidlandTroy71 singalaut Spydar007 PanosAsproulis[m Karunamon Katronix cbHXBY1D[m] Kyrios[m] M-FlorentVIOLLEA saintaquinas[m] MajorKong[m] Cypher100[m] mlhess M-JLuc marniko
[05:32] <Satyam2345> Ubuntu - OS for the retarded that can't configure debian. <3 cybervking[m] Soif[m] MushroomNZ yangm97 tomaw Sedo FinalX lauritzt[m] M8bit[m] olmari degenpoker vinod123[m] arlen domeus NickG365 sphrak fooctrl dannyLopez forkup koffeinfriedhof Cyph3r- Capprentice u__ Poster zonum sgen charlie_sanders lasantha[m] pandaadb Oatmeal doomlord M1K4 genpaku murphy rodsmith Granis dfused ashimema Xard nicomachus anto cwre ccosta Lynx_ linuxgecko josephz saige igor
[05:32] <Satyam2345> Ubuntu - OS for the retarded that can't configure debian. <3 whitekidney ming_lei macskay_ goo DarkAceZ wildc4rd seb_ GinoManWorks pirx sphenxes SupaYoshi ahoneybun Pelle` cjk arunpyasi jose mcphail messy nielsk fireball``` JanC timini l0rdkermit xcloud bhagyashris terrorci1e tdn vapa SuperLag_ c|oneman ffatman techmagus unknown_ branant wish^ sveinse mibo UNIcodeX_ bleomycin bray90820 dfgas armyriad taliptako rohan L0rdLaravel memphisw sgtnasty NoCode s
[05:32] <Satyam2345> Ubuntu - OS for the retarded that can't configure debian. <3 brainyron kingmanor loa masber ClassicBoy johnzorn _ruben SD_Ecliptica gnomethrower Carlos0611 gusnan y_sekino tonyt jaagr foddo j0nes111 karlthane sdx23 rhol_ Olufunmilayo Afforess jasondotstar bkuhl mhoney NightMonkey huff3r Joey__ medz KennosiS imm dhollinger styler2go jamesd acidchild netameta jonne Harry Random832 Stinky-Feet antonw [B] omnigoat wizonesolutions grauzikas fsi-mtakahas Ceber
[05:32] <guzzlefry> 0.o
[05:32] <gnomethrower> The irony of that statement is that it has slightly broken grammar
[05:33] <gnomethrower> the joke sounds much better in its semi-original form: "Ubuntu is an ancient African word which translates roughly to 'couldn't install Debian'"
[05:33] <Delphin> lol
[05:34] <Delphin> speaking of broken, my postfix continues to deliver status=deferred messages, saying "delivery temporarily suspended: mail for www.intertvnet.net loops back to myself"
[05:34] <ilk> why would someone come here and say that? what motivated that?
[05:35] <ilk> its some form of mentalillness i know that
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | ilk
[05:36] <ilk> ohhh i get it now....this channel is easily trolled
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Satyam2345 flooded at 6h32
[05:37] <dax> lotuspsychje: sigyn kicked them off the network already
[05:37] <Aliencristo> Hello
[05:37] <plgos> hello
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> dax: didnt drone remove the ban?
[05:37] <Aliencristo> I need some help
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Aliencristo
[05:38] <dax> lotuspsychje: there was a quiet, a ban, and a network ban / k-line set. the first was removed.
[05:38] <Aliencristo> https://imgur.com/NKssOXf
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> dax: kk cool
[05:38] <Aliencristo> I installed ubuntu and deleted windows
[05:38] <Aliencristo> As a fresh start
[05:38] <Aliencristo> i can't read my external HDD
[05:39] <Aliencristo> Of course I don't have access to windows in my computer what should I do?
[05:39] <qmr> throw it in trash and restore from backup
[05:39] <Aliencristo> Will there be any data loss?
[05:39] <qmr> no, because you are restoring from your known good, tested, working backup
[05:39] <qmr> ... right?
[05:40] <Aliencristo> No
[05:40] <Aliencristo> I don't have any backup I deleted all my HDD
[05:40] <qmr> well, don't do that then
[05:40] <Aliencristo> But my external HDD is what im worried about
[05:40] <Aliencristo> I can't mount it
[05:41] <Aliencristo> This is the message https://imgur.com/NKssOXf
[05:42] <Aliencristo> Is this f.u.b.a.r.?
[05:42] <qmr> did you read the error message?
[05:42] <Aliencristo> Yeah
[05:42] <qmr> the first thing you should do is back up the disk with dd.  then you should mount it read only, and see if you can copy your data
[05:42] <janbatis1> "Ubuntu is an ancient Nigger word which translates roughly to 'couldn't install Debian' - gnomethrower" <3 ToeSnacks Muzer telex markus_e92 ribasushi Southern_Gentlem hurricanehrndz l2y bcc milamber geoffb zzzgeoffb waltman antrax888 fyrril squig chuck_ DzAirmaX Pachurter Flannel Gzk^ SleePy n1ce rt flopsec shazzr hypnotic_ PaulW2U mewecoffeeX64 X-Rob Guest83605 YeahRight MidlandTroy71 singalaut Spydar007 PanosAsproulis[m Karunamon Katronix cbHXBY1D[m] K
[05:42] <janbatis1> "Ubuntu is an ancient Nigger word which translates roughly to 'couldn't install Debian' - gnomethrower" <3 genpaku murphy rodsmith Granis dfused ashimema Xard nicomachus anto cwre ccosta Lynx_ linuxgecko josephz saige igordcard imsurit davimore whitekidney ming_lei macskay_ goo DarkAceZ wildc4rd seb_ GinoManWorks pirx sphenxes SupaYoshi ahoneybun Pelle` cjk arunpyasi jose mcphail messy nielsk fireball``` JanC timini l0rdkermit xcloud bhagyashris terrorci
[05:42] <janbatis1> "Ubuntu is an ancient Nigger word which translates roughly to 'couldn't install Debian' - gnomethrower" <3 bkuhl mhoney NightMonkey huff3r Joey__ medz KennosiS imm dhollinger styler2go jamesd acidchild netameta jonne Harry Random832 Stinky-Feet antonw [B] omnigoat wizonesolutions grauzikas fsi-mtakahas Ceber arathi ddstreet Charlie79 c_smith Takumo lblume pizzaops meLon Whiskey andrex bildramer1 dellhem hypermist des_consolado atrius cmBloks noteness_ ch
[05:42] <janbatis1> "Ubuntu is an ancient Nigger word which translates roughly to 'couldn't install Debian' - gnomethrower" <3 tripkin Ben65 balaios d4rkmatter \9 ifro_ jamie_1 bauerj jason_- pkiller sirushti Deltanic OnTheLake askb TeKKiE_ estranger znf rory kode54 anbz wouter0100 setz3r Whisket gyre007 komorebi dunk RestingSmile DJones slamduck naf lucasrolff faithless_ blenderhead h12o_ luny Voltasalt bratchley wyggler2 Danzeel tobsterius Toris sven^ matti abra0 K1rk mwd
[05:42] <janbatis1> "Ubuntu is an ancient Nigger word which translates roughly to 'couldn't install Debian' - gnomethrower" <3 Exterminador wafflejock Swish Lkydiruw Anarchemist KeithIMyers barnex akxwi-dave Spec or4n bluszcz MadPsy bobe PugaBear beuker bynarie tonyyarusso chiluk sl4ppy franzer_ ayan thalin xol4r _Trullo ndk mhall119 yokel rumpole dougstew Ghosty x-fak Tempesta jelatta Anthaas farid_ woodjrx akaWolf kevy0 quintopia aloril_ Jikan mfisch davidj nisstyre Jonny
[05:42] <Aremis117> Funny enough I use arch cuntfuck I'm here to help people
[05:42] <qmr> then you can try CHKDISK in windows or fsck.ntfs
[05:42] <davidj> <3 :p
[05:42] <dax> sigh.
[05:43] <davidj> Thanks dax.
[05:43]  * elky gives sigyn botcookies
[05:43] <Aremis117> Looks like /g/ has nothing better to do at the moment
[05:43] <Bashing-om> Aliencristo: Try : ' sudo apt install ntfs-3g && sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb1 ' .
[05:43] <davidj> What's fascinating is the debian install process is no easier/harder. :p
[05:44] <gnomethrower> amusing that they took my quote and replaced "African" with "Nigger"
[05:44] <Aliencristo> 😞
[05:44] <Aremis117> just retalds out of th bargain bin
[05:44] <gnomethrower> and pinged me a bunch
[05:44] <gnomethrower> i feel so honoured
[05:44] <Aliencristo> I can't code for shit
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !language | Aliencristo
[05:45] <davidj> Debian's no slackwhere. :p
[05:45] <Aliencristo> I thought it'd be easier since HTML and php are way easier
[05:45] <davidj> err, slackware. C'mon brain, you can do better.
[05:46] <Ryan_> II seem to have borked something after playing around with drivers on 16.04, when I get to the login screen the cursor blinks a few times, stops, and I'm unable to move the mouse at all. Any ideas?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> Ryan_: move back to a previous driver?
[05:46] <davidj> Hm. @Ryan_ ctrl-alt f1 & restart lightdm. Does it fix it?
[05:46] <Aremis117> slack is bae
[05:48] <Ryan_> davidj, it completely freezes up
[05:48] <guzzlefry> oh
[05:48] <davidj> Is that any time you hit the login screen, or only after a suspend?
[05:49] <guzzlefry> lotuspsychje: https://downloadmirror.intel.com/26283/eng/SY_0052_ReleaseNotes.pdf Looks like a firmware issue. :)
[05:49] <Ryan_> Any time I hit the login screen
[05:49] <davidj> :/ Yeah. I'd move back to previous drivers if you can.
[05:49] <davidj> Someone else might be able advice on how to do that. First step'd be to get to a shell & apt-get remove your current drivers)
[05:50] <Ryan_> Appears it might not be completely frozen, but it sure as hell isn't responding to any input, the screen just timed out after a few minutes of being idle
[05:51] <Ryan_> Any way to list all drivers that are installed/
[05:51] <Ryan_> I've been at this for a few hours already and am running out of pudding, not a pleasant feeling
[05:52] <davidj> Depends on graphics card.
[05:52] <davidj> I'd do sudo apt list |grep nvidia in my case
[05:52] <davidj> (This probably isn't right, gimme a few seconds to google)
[05:53] <davidj> sudo apt list --installed | grep nvidia
[05:53] <davidj> for ex.
[05:53] <davidj> This is why I keep a spare computer around, sadly. For when I break my main one :)
[05:56] <Landeskog> was wondering if someone could help me im pretty new to nix.   Im tryin to get mesa12.1-dev on 16.04 i have a radeon r7 370 im told thats what people are using for steam games 100fps+     for some reason i dont see any additional video drivers just sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[05:56] <Landeskog> intel-microcode
[05:56] <Landeskog> lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'
[05:56] <Landeskog> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Curacao PRO [Radeon R7 370 / R9 270/370 OEM] (rev 81)
[05:56] <Landeskog> 	Subsystem: Dell Trinidad PRO [Radeon R9 370 OEM]
[05:56] <Landeskog> 	Kernel modules: radeon
[05:57] <Ryan_> Not sure what's making me more angry, my driver issues or the shitty trackpad drivers on the laptop I'm using for research
[05:57] <Bashing-om> Landeskog: AMD has gome full support for open source, there no longer is a proprietary driver . What you have in the kernel is what there is .
[05:58] <Landeskog> i was told that mesa12.1-dev i should use for video drivers Bashing-om
[05:59] <Ryan_> davidj, possible it's an issue with xserver? Would it be advisable to remove all versions of xserver and install one?
[05:59] <davidj> I wouldn't start there @Ryan_ — in my exp. it always comes down to graphics drivers.
[06:00] <davidj> otoh, sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop can't hurt @Ryan_
[06:01] <gnomethrower> Bashing-om: No more fglrx?
[06:01] <gnomethrower> When did this happen?
[06:03] <Landeskog> im to noob at nix and i cant figure out what i have to do to get mesa12.1-dev
[06:04] <Ryan_> Landeskog, are you looking to install that..?
[06:04] <Ryan_> apt-get install mesa12.1-dev
[06:04] <Landeskog> u gotta be kidding me lol
[06:04] <Landeskog> ty
[06:05] <Ryan_> davidj, now getting a shell when I boot
[06:05]  * Ryan_ strokes
[06:05] <Landeskog> E: Unable to locate package mesa12.1-dev
[06:05] <Landeskog> E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'mesa12.1-dev'
[06:05] <Landeskog> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'mesa12.1-dev'
[06:06] <Ryan_> davidj, so the thing is, the shell is at a very...appropriate resolution, so it appears as if there's some driver working
[06:06] <Ryan_> also when I enter my passphrase to unlock the disk at boot, it looks like(by the way it shows the graphic) that again, some driver is functioning
[06:07] <Bashing-om> Landeskog: Ya got some more homework to do. See : http://theleftcoastgeek.net/index.php/categories/12-possible-amdgpu-pro-supported-gpus-by-the-end . Then consider ' apt show vulkan-utils ' .
[06:08] <Ryan_> yeah it's definitely displaying at my native resolution
[06:09] <Ryan_> so I can either call it quits and just be happy with what I have and use a terminal-based web browser and buy a single bullet because lets be honest here, that's all I'll need, or I can brave into the wild and see what I've done to do this
[06:10]  * Ryan_ thinks it's X
[06:10] <Ryan_> yeah there's definitely no X
[06:10] <Landeskog> Bashing-om,   i see my vid cardi nthat list and sorry for the dumb question but what is vulkan utils
[06:11] <Ryan_> Landeskog, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/vulkan-utils
[06:12] <Ryan_> Landeskog, if you're new to the whole nerd-OS scene I'd probably get well acquainted with Google, the more basic questions tend to get ignored/overlooked in here
[06:13] <Bashing-om> Landeskog: AMD is working to lay another layer on top of amdpro driver . I "think" that is vulkam ?? // and looking to find your nesa package . what release are you on ?
[06:13] <Landeskog> uname -r
[06:13] <Landeskog> 4.4.0-64-generic
[06:13] <Landeskog>  16.04
[06:14] <Ryan_> Restarting with X now
[06:14]  * Ryan_ racks his shotgun
[06:14] <ramsRambo> I need help with software updater. If I run the software updater I am getting a list of items to be updated. After I authenticate to update
[06:15] <ramsRambo> I am getting a message "This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources."
[06:16] <ramsRambo> from there onwards it is getting stuck and not updating the software
[06:16] <ramsRambo> any suggestions
[06:16] <Ryan_> davidj, we have life! Removed and reinstalled x
[06:16] <Ryan_> (and reconfigured)
[06:16] <davidj> woooo! :)
[06:18] <Bashing-om> Landeskog: Not finding a match for mesa12.1-dev // this any help : " mesa-common-dev/xenial-updates 12.0.6-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> amd64 " ?
[06:18] <Ryan_> davidj, ok, Login screen is working but is now just throwing me back to login after entering my password
[06:18] <Ryan_> Better than before, shall do some research on this
[06:18] <davidj> Hm.
[06:18] <davidj> That's interesting.
[06:18] <davidj> Rebooted? Cliche, but just asking.
[06:18] <ramsRambo> I am getting a msg "This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources." from software updater
[06:19] <Ryan_> davidj, Yep
[06:20] <Bashing-om> Ryan_: Insure that "you" are authorized to access your desktop ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' .
[06:20] <Squarism> 17.04 is not LTS is it?
[06:20] <Ryan_> Bashing-om, haha....about that
[06:21] <Ryan_> Accidentally deleted them earlier
[06:21] <Bashing-om> Ryan_: At the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1  to gain a console interface .
[06:21] <Ryan_> Well, .xauthority
[06:21] <Ryan_> Ya i'm dropped into a shell now
[06:22] <Bashing-om> Ryan_: .Xauthority should be recreated . one can touch and chmod the file if required .
[06:22] <Ryan_> done
[06:22] <Ryan_> Not familiar with getting out of the shell and back to login though
[06:23] <davidj> ctrl-alt f1
[06:23] <Bashing-om> Ryan_: try ctl+alt+F7 .
[06:23] <davidj> it'll drop you to a shell
[06:23] <davidj> Or that.
[06:23] <Bashing-om> Ryan_: Generally the GUI runs in TTY7 .
[06:24] <Ryan_> Bashing-om, thank you, changed ownership on .Xauthority to my user and all is well now
[06:25] <Bashing-om> Ryan_: 2 heads better than 1 .. even if this one is a goat's head :P
[06:25] <ramsRambo> I am getting a msg "This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources." from software updater and it is stuck does not update anything
[06:25] <Ryan_> haha yeah
[06:25] <davidj> Fascinating Ryan_
[06:25] <davidj> @ramsRambo Which context?
[06:25] <davidj> That is, when?
[06:27] <Bashing-om> ramsRambo: Pastebin for the channel ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' so we see the errors in context .
[06:28] <ramsRambo> davidj, I am running ubuntu 14.01
[06:28] <Ryan_> I did end up installing a different open source driver, time to see if it makes a difference
[06:29] <Bashing-om> Ryan_: Annnddd .. you did purge the old driver prior to installing the new nvidia driver , yes ?
[06:30] <Ryan_> Bashing-om, AMD, but yes, I believe so
[06:30] <Ryan_> Feels like things are much better now, not sure if the map that was playing on the game server is as intensive as the one I got when testing before tho, gonna check
[06:31] <Ryan_> Either way the less painful solutino here is probably just to install Windows or a better supported OS for the drivers/game and just boot int that to play
[06:32] <Bashing-om> Ryan_: K ; :) .. just checking . What release is this as xenial kernel and above has no FGLRX anymore .
[06:32] <Ryan_> Bashing-om, ya 16.04 so no fglrx
[06:32] <Ryan_> performance is worlds better
[06:33] <ramsRambo> Bashing-on,  pastebin http://pastebin.com/HBSUE8NQ
[06:33] <Bashing-om> Ryan_: That is a fact .. no FGLTX . Nostly what the kernel provides is what you have unless you have a new release card .
[06:33] <ramsRambo> Bashing-om,  pastebin http://pastebin.com/HBSUE8NQ
[06:34] <Ryan_> Bashing-om, I'm now using oibaf's drivers(https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers)
[06:34] <Ryan_> seeems they're signifigantly better
[06:35] <ramsRambo> Bashing-om, how to update that expired key for mysql
[06:38] <Bashing-om> ramsRambo: see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/884798/why-mysql-repository-key-suddenly-expired ; https://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=85029 .
[06:39] <Bashing-om> Ryan_: Several have reported good results from the PPA :)
[06:40] <Ryan_> Bashing-om, yeah, it seems good, I'm not looking for stellar performance but just consistent, with old drivers I couldn't even attain a playable environment in 800x600 and this GPU should be able to(theoretically, without caps) run CS:GO at around 600fps in something like 800x600
[06:42] <hateball> Squarism: 17.04 will not be LTS, no
[06:47] <Ryan_> But at the very same time windows drivers for this GPU are borked in their own way with decoding video, and I don't seem to experience said problems on Linux drivers..so, Win some, lose some
[06:50] <Bashing-om> Ryan_: What card is this ?
[06:52] <Ryan_> Bashing-om, radeon hd 6870
[06:54] <Bashing-om> Ryan_: Pretty descent card .
[06:59] <hicoleri> How do I connect to an openvpn based vpn? I'm trying to use a vpn service from vpngate.net (I'm aware I shouldn't be using a free vpn service. This is just for testing), using kvpnc, but it returns an error saying that the connection was refused. The nm-applet interface also refuses to connect as well.
[06:59] <hicoleri> The L2TP based service from vpngate seems to work well on my android phone.
[07:36] <markus-k> Hi. I'm getting these kernel panics when starting the ubuntu installer: https://imgur.com/a/F4jvJ Tried both 14.04 and 16.04. Any idea what this is?
[07:37] <markus-k> I'm booting with the nolapic kernel parameter, if I boot without the screen just stays blank
[07:37] <alkisg> markus-k: is this a usb stick or cd? does it work in other computers?
[07:37] <markus-k> It's quite an old machine (2008ish) with two Xeon CPUs
[07:38] <markus-k> USB stick. The stick works on other machines, also tried to rewrite it
[07:38] <alkisg> How did you create the stick, which which software?
[07:39] <markus-k> converted the ISO to raw and dd'ed it to the stick. But the stick is fine, installed multiple systems with it without any problems
[07:40] <Ben64> converted the iso to raw?
[07:40] <markus-k> Also ran the memtest86+, no errors
[07:40] <linuxlove> hi guys
[07:40] <alkisg> markus-k: What do you mean "converted the ISO to raw"?
[07:42] <markus-k> alkisg: like this: http://askubuntu.com/a/382969/646919. This was also on the ubuntu website some time ago, can't find it anymore
[07:42] <markus-k> Just dding the iso to the usb doesn't work iirc
[07:43] <Ben64> are you installing onto a mac
[07:43] <markus-k> No, some supermicro server
[07:43] <Ben64> then don't do that
[07:43] <Ben64> also, don't do that for mac probably either
[07:44] <elias_a> markus-k: As alkisg said it would be good to know if the USB stick works in aome other computer.
[07:44] <markus-k> elias_a: Yes, I installed 7 other machines from the same stick no problem
[07:44] <alkisg> markus-k: the normal way is to just dd the iso to the usb and it should work
[07:44] <alkisg> Without hdutil etc
[07:47] <markus-k> Okay. Well, the Wiki says either use UNetbootin (awful) or convert it when creating the USB Stick on a mac. I can try if it works by directly dding the iso
[07:48] <Ben64> where does  it say that on wiki
[07:49] <markus-k> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[07:49] <markus-k> Which is linked from here: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-macos
[07:49] <Ben64> that says on macbook
[07:49] <Ben64> we already established you're not installing on to a macbook
[07:50] <elias_a> Ben64: You are not reading the wiki page, are you?
[07:50] <elias_a> Ben64: That describes the process of creating the bootable USB stick. :)
[07:50] <Ben64> you're not reading the title, are y ou?
[07:52] <elias_a> Ben64: Read the stuff under "Manual approach". That is most clearly a process how to make a bootable stick. :)
[07:52] <Ben64> "How to install Ubuntu on MacBook using USB Stick"
[07:57] <markus-k> I'll try the dd'ed iso
[07:58] <markus-k> But I don't see why its wrong when the converted works on other machines
[08:04] <markus-k> Okay, that makes no difference. But I just figured it starts without nolapic when i just leave it there for ages
[08:12] <alkisg> markus-k: it starts into the GUI mode? Then, check `dmesg` for a possible cause of the big delay
[08:12] <markus-k> But the installer can't mount the cd...
[08:12] <markus-k> It's booting to ncurses mode
[08:12] <alkisg> dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:12] <alkisg> This will upload your dmesg to a site, so that we'll see it
[08:12] <markus-k> But it takes 5 minutes or so to do so
[08:13] <markus-k> Detecting hardware was stuck for another 3-5 minutes, maybe something is wrong with the hardware
[08:16] <markus-k> Whoa, it detects hundreds of new USB devices... sadly I don't have internet on the machine
[08:17] <FMan> hi
[08:20] <laikrun> Hello!
[08:58] <hicoleri> (posting again) How do I connect to an openvpn based vpn? I'm trying to use a vpn service from vpngate.net (I'm aware I shouldn't be using a free vpn service. This is just for testing), using kvpnc, but it returns an error saying that the connection was refused. The nm-applet interface also refuses to connect as well.
[08:58] <hicoleri> The L2TP based service from vpngate seems to work well on my android phone.
[09:01] <Falc> Hello, I just installed keepalived on 16.04 and it seems the service was not installed...
[09:01] <Falc> okay nm typo on my end
[09:05] <fishcooker> is creating raid to disks will format disk low level ?
[09:30] <calamity> Hey all, I'm running ubuntu and I'm trying to upgrade to the latest version of node, but I seem to be stuck on v0.10.25
[09:33] <mvvvv> calamity, https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#debian-and-ubuntu-based-linux-distributions
[09:34] <calamity> thanks friend!
[09:38] <anddam> is there a way to have an ls command that automaticall paginate?
[09:38] <anddam> automatically*
[09:39] <anddam> also why doesn't less see terminal colors from ls output even using -r ?
[09:39] <B105PH3RE> without using | more not that i'm aware of
[09:40] <anddam> B105PH3RE: I'm not sure to get what you said
[09:40] <selckin> try less -FRSX
[09:40] <anddam> B105PH3RE: if I have to pipe then it's not automatic pagination
[09:40] <OerHeks> write an alias for ls | more
[09:41] <anddam> selckin: only -RX since the less colors and the pagination of ls are separate issues
[09:41] <anddam> why the choice of more over less?
[09:41] <selckin> why are you asking stuff you know already
[09:42] <B105PH3RE> whichever allows pagination
[09:42] <OerHeks> anddam, so: why the choice of more over less?
[09:42] <anddam> selckin: no, I don't. I'm asking why less -r (or -R or -RX) doesn't show the colors that are instead preent in ls --color
[09:42] <selckin> anddam: they often don't output colors when they detect a pipe
[09:43] <anddam> selckin: mm I see, so it's like a bug by design
[09:43] <selckin> man ls; search for --color=auto
[09:43] <selckin> no because ppl like to get ls output and do other things that'll break with the color codes in the stream
[09:43] <anddam> selckin: ah, 'always'
[09:43] <selckin> grep
[09:43] <k1l> which is called a feature, if its a "bug by design"
[09:44] <anddam> yep
[09:44] <k1l> you dont call it a bug, when your car stops when you put your foot on the brake
[09:44] <selckin> anything that doesnt work like his presious majesty wants is clearly a bug
[09:44] <B105PH3RE> plus it depends your ultimate objective there's multiple ways to do things
[09:44] <anddam> k1l: I had those "brake" removed from the vehicle, that was a very annoying behavior
[09:45] <anddam> sure, in this case I was looking for a ls "builtin" pagination (I know I can write an alias but chances are in some corner case I cannot think of now that will break), since I didn't found one tried with |less and then asked here
[09:45] <anddam> just to recap
[09:45] <theparadoxer02> i want to fetch some data by creating a session what libratu should i use in shell scripting ?
[09:46] <ducasse> anddam: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19718/how-to-activate-pagination-for-ls-command#19722
[09:46] <ducasse> anddam: there is a function there that does what you want
[09:46] <anddam> when I first saw the auto-pagination in git I found it annoying, but it's an acquired taste and is actually very useful
[09:46] <anddam> thanks all for the info, I'm set for now
[09:50] <theptr> Hi i want to update my ubuntu server 14.04.2 to 16.04 what is the best way to do it ? its a mail server
[09:51] <k1l> theptr: the command is "sudo do-release-upgrade". but i guess you want to make sure your backups are fine, for murphys law
[09:52] <theptr> k1l, the problem is that it is in a datacenter so i cant just use clonezilla..
[09:52] <bumbar> will "service lightdm force-reload" not close all windows like restart does?
[09:52] <k1l> theptr: see if the hoster has some recovery boot and backup space. or just copy it to your local place
[09:53] <k1l> bumbar: yes, it will close all programs
[09:53] <theptr> k1l, okay im going to contact them.
[09:53] <theptr> k1l, thanks for your time :)
[09:54] <bumbar> k1l, is there a way to reload? sometimes everything stops responding (mouse still works though, and ssh) and closing all windows is a major pita
[09:54] <k1l> bumbar: not really. kill the programs that is blocking. but reload will reload the xserver which means all programs are down
[09:55] <B105PH3RE> unless you can some stuff on console your soL you have to shutdown apps
[09:56] <B105PH3RE> is there any way to assign a specific keyboard and mouse to a specific terminal that can be assigned to a specific monitor on the same system?
[09:58] <bumbar> k1l, i've tried killing the app which i was using when it froze, but didn't seem to help. also, htop didn't show any process hogging cpu
[09:58] <ducasse> B105PH3RE: it's called 'multiseat'
[10:00] <akik> bumbar: you could try running "unity --replace" if you're using unity
[10:01] <hateball> bumbar: I'd ctrl+alt+f1 to tty1 and service restart lightdm, if you are fine with all apps closing
[10:01] <hateball> bumbar: you should try akiks suggestion first
[10:02] <bumbar> hateball, ctrl alt fN doesn't work, i have to ssh in. and i'd rather not all apps closing
[10:02] <Scoop7> Guys strange situation, I college of mind asked to remove password from a .docx document to order it to be editable. But on libre office I've already can edit it fully :D And when I converted it to .rtf and searched for password i didn't find it....
[10:03] <Scoop7> is it possible the password value is behind another name ?
[10:03] <hateball> Scoop7: You are probably better off asking in #libreoffice
[10:04] <hateball> bumbar: well if you ssh you cant attach to the running X session so you cant use akiks suggestion anyhow
[10:04] <B105PH3RE> ducasse: thanx I found the info I need now!! :)
[10:05] <hateball> bumbar: have you looked at your logs? ~/.xsession-errors for instance
[10:05] <hateball> bumbar: could be a gpu driver issue
[10:11] <ducasse> B105PH3RE: if you have not already found it - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_multiseat
[10:15] <theosvoitha> hello. How can i burn Ubuntu Minimal iso in pen drive? thanks in advance
[10:16] <theosvoitha> i dont want to burn a 700MB CD for 65 MB iso.
[10:17] <hellcook> Hi
[10:17] <olmari> theosvoitha: I have sometimes just used "dd" for that
[10:17] <B105PH3RE> should be no problem theosvoitha
[10:17] <theosvoitha> i am using Windows 7. :-(
[10:17] <rymax99> ..
[10:17] <B105PH3RE> recommend dd aswell theosvoitha as per olmari mentioned
[10:18] <olmari> theosvoitha: well physdiskwrite then in windows propably
[10:18] <olmari> I don't know the parameters, google propably wll
[10:18] <B105PH3RE> the use cygwin
[10:18] <rymax99> theosvoitha, http://bfy.tw/AOPt
[10:18] <theosvoitha> B105PH3RE: olmari dd doesnt work in windows (if am currect)
[10:19] <rymax99> being that it's a Linux utility, that'd be correct, but see the above link
[10:19] <theosvoitha> rymax99: ha ha ha. Correct.
[10:21] <theosvoitha> After flagging my USB bootable, I saved all my minimal ISO (unzipped) data to my pendrive and tried to boot through it but unable to. What do i lack?
[10:21] <Ben64> thats not how to do it at all
[10:22] <theosvoitha> :-(
[10:22] <EriC^^> theosvoitha: what minimal iso u talking about?
[10:22] <OerHeks> the wiki says rufus https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:22] <olmari> theosvoitha: you now have 3 options told... :)
[10:23] <theosvoitha> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD  Ubuntu 16.10 "Yakkety Yak" 55MB
[10:23] <rymax99> don't 'unzip' the iso
[10:23] <EriC^^> theosvoitha: do you already have ubuntu installed or a linux system?
[10:24] <theosvoitha> EriC^^: Nope. i deleted it for fresh install. Wanna try Minimal Install.
[10:24] <theosvoitha> installing along with Windows 7
[10:24] <EriC^^> theosvoitha: try linux live usb creator
[10:25] <rymax99> I've never had issues with Rufus in Windows
[10:26] <rymax99> theosvoitha, if you're installing alongside windows to try it out, I'd advise fully backing up your windows install
[10:26] <rymax99> (if you have anything on it you care about)
[10:26] <theosvoitha> rymax99: yes i will. thanks :-)
[10:26] <theosvoitha> EriC^^: Wow. this tool is great.  Why you mentioned that we shouldn't unzip iso's?
[10:28] <theosvoitha> thanks OerHeks also for mentioning 'Rufus'. it seems good too. :-)
[10:28] <coolserverguy> Hey all, im trying to get some help. Really confused about my ubuntu LXC setup.
[10:28] <rymax99> there's no reason to, an ISO isn't compressed, it's just an image
[10:28] <ducasse> theosvoitha: because iso images are not 'zipped' to begin with
[10:29] <coolserverguy> So I have setup iptables to forward external address to my lxc containers via NAT.. its working great.
[10:29] <rymax99> and most tools used to put the ISO on media won't take a folder, they only accept images(isos)
[10:29] <hateball> theosvoitha: when you unzip it wont put the bootloader bits where they need to be, it will just copy files out from the image
[10:29] <elias_a> markus-k: My guess is you have broken hardware.
[10:29] <coolserverguy> I've also blocked out ssh on the firewall to stop ssh access, it seems to work fine shows block on port scan and i cant connect either, but when i check my logs i can see other people are still managing to access ssh and attempt brute force
[10:30] <coolserverguy> How are they getting around iptables rules, its blocking me so why isn't it blocking them?
[10:30] <dupondje_> Damn.  It shouldn't find 2 new usb devices every second out of nowhere
[10:31] <theosvoitha> rymax99: i have actually been installing Non-Ubuntu distro in my USB by (1) Flagging pen drive 'bootable' (2) Saving unzipped DIstro iso's  (3) Installing and linking Bootloader. And i had been good to go.
[10:31] <k1l> coolserverguy: you might want to ask #lxcontainers for lxc issues
[10:31] <coolserverguy> thanks k1l not sure its lxc or iptables though
[10:31] <theosvoitha> rymax99: i admit i dont feel this the right way though
[10:33] <rymax99> theosvoitha, if it works it works
[10:34] <theosvoitha> rymax99: :-)
[10:34] <causative> just logged in to a 14.04 image that I hadn't used in a while, and ran all the updates... during the updates, grub failed to write itself to the drive.  should I be concerned, considering it rebooted successfully anyway using the grub that was already there?
[10:34] <EriC^^> causative: how many hdd's do you have?
[10:35] <causative> 2 plugged in to this computer
[10:35] <causative> both ubuntu, one 16.10 the other lubuntu 14.04
[10:35] <theosvoitha> rymax99: thanks though.
[10:36] <causative> grub was trying and failing to write itself to the drive with 14.04 on it
[10:36] <causative> what does that mean, just a software bug, a sign of impending drive failure, or a software bug that could mess things up?
[10:37] <EriC^^> causative: type "df -h"
[10:37] <EriC^^> and get the name of the disk that has your current ubuntu
[10:37] <EriC^^> like /dev/sda2  . .... "/"
[10:39] <causative> I can't send to this channel suddenly?
[10:39] <causative> nvm
[10:39] <causative> oh
[10:39] <causative>  /dev/sda5
[10:39] <causative> silly me, forgot the space :P
[10:39] <EriC^^> causative: ok, try sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[10:40] <causative> no error reported
[10:41] <EriC^^> causative: ok, try sudo update-grub
[10:41] <bumbar> hateball, .xsession-errors is only two lines: "openConnection: connect: No such file or directory \n cannot connect to brltty at :0"
[10:41] <causative> didn't get any errors with that either
[10:41] <EriC^^> causative: ok, try rebooting
[10:41] <causative> k
[10:44] <ducasse> bumbar: that has to do with braille devices, which you probably don't use
[10:45] <causative> everything is still working fine EriC^^ , this means there is no problem?
[10:45] <EriC^^> causative: yeah (Y)
[10:45] <causative> thanks!
[10:45] <EriC^^> causative: no problem
[10:46] <ducasse> causative: EriC^^ with two ubuntu installs, isn't removing grub from one of them a good idea?
[10:46] <EriC^^> *shrug*
[10:46] <causative> they're on two different drives
[10:47] <elias_a> markus-k: If it behaves like that you could check if the USB ports are connected to the mainboard with cables. Faulty cable causes similar phenomenon at least with Firewire devices.
[11:00] <hateball> bumbar: check dmesg and the regular Xorg log also
[11:06] <bumbar> hateball, dmesg has a bunch of lines like https://dpaste.de/pjn9 and not sure if that's the correct xorg log, since there's no timestamps, but it has some backtraces https://dpaste.de/sbnc
[11:07] <b100s> hi2all
[11:08] <b100s> i have trouble with sound: https://s.mail.ru/BjSA/8W3NWJjo4 but https://s.mail.ru/F61U/M7VjLRkmW
[11:17] <hateball> bumbar: what chipset are you using? it is possible the nvidia blob is a more stable experience than nouveau
[11:17] <hateball> bumbar: by possible I mean likely :p
[11:20] <bumbar> hateball, this: lspci | grep VGA          01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208 [GeForce GT 730] (rev a1)  ?
[11:24] <LACampbell> when I change my screen brightness with the media keys, it does 20% jumps. can I adjust this?
[11:25] <hateball> bumbar: yea
[11:26] <hateball> bumbar: I'd suggest you go into the software updater and click the drivers tab, try the nvidia blob, 367 or whatever it might be
[11:28] <hateball> bumbar: or if you want bleeding edge, use the !PPA: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-378
[11:37] <bumbar> hateball, cool, thanks. hopefully that'll fix everything! :)
[11:51] <hateball> bumbar: had a chance to try yet?
[11:57] <bumbar> no, i have to reboot the machine and am working currently
[12:17] <hateball> bumbar: which solution did you opt for? distro package or from PPA?
[12:17] <hateball> bumbar: at any rate, should it fail you need only apt remove nvidia-XXX and it'll remove the blacklist of nouveau etc itself
[12:23] <craptalk> guys, i edited the .bashrc file to add my PATH Variable, but i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/24095655/, please help me
[12:23] <craptalk> is it something that i typed it wrong?
[12:24] <craptalk> or duplicate path?
[12:24] <craptalk> i put it in my bashrc, because for my own use
[12:24] <Ben64> what did you put in exactly
[12:25] <bumbar> hateball, distro package
[12:25] <craptalk> my program editor
[12:25] <ducasse> craptalk: pastebin it, please
[12:25] <Ben64> you put "my program editor" into .bashrc?
[12:25] <craptalk> so that i could be accessible throughout my working dir
[12:25] <craptalk> ducasse: i did, look up
[12:25] <craptalk> ducasse: here is for you http://paste.ubuntu.com/24095655/
[12:26] <craptalk> i see some duplication path
[12:26] <Ben64> not the error man, the thing you did to break it
[12:26] <ducasse> craptalk: that is the error
[12:26] <craptalk> Ben64: what do you mean? the thing that i did, which caused this?
[12:27] <Ben64> yes
[12:27] <craptalk> Ben64: ah simple
[12:27] <craptalk> i do this
[12:27] <craptalk> PATH=$PATH:/path/to/mydir
[12:27] <craptalk> export $PATH
[12:27] <Ben64> what EXACTLY did you do
[12:27] <craptalk> and i source it
[12:28] <craptalk> Ben64: that is what i did
[12:28] <Ben64> i give up
[12:28] <ducasse> screw this, i'm not a dentist
[12:28] <Ben64> ducasse: i don't follow
[12:28] <ducasse> pulling teeth etc
[12:28] <Ben64> ah
[12:29] <craptalk> Ben64: i mean i gave you the point of why i am doing this, why you still dont get it?
[12:29] <Ben64> craptalk: because you can't get past step 1, i'm not wasting my time to help you
[12:29] <craptalk> Ben64: sure man, that would be wise
[12:30] <ducasse> craptalk: pastebin the file so we can see *exactly* what's going on. what you're giving us makes no sense.
[12:30] <Ben64> craptalk: read this before trying to get help on irc https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc/
[12:48] <kierqueen>  I have a queseiton, how do I delete the old repository? and do we need to register, before coming here ?
[12:48] <kierqueen> I can't register sometimes
[12:48] <k1l> kierqueen: what repo do you want to delete?
[12:49] <ppf> kierqueen: what do you want to register?
[12:49] <k1l> kierqueen: and no, you dont need to register or login to join this channel. sometimes its set temporally to regsitered users only, when there are spam bot attacks.
[12:49] <kierqueen> some bitmask repo that I added using add-apt-repository what's the equivalent of apt remove for repo
[12:50] <k1l> !ppa-purge | kierqueen
[12:52] <guzzlefry> Is anything likely to break if I switch my user shell to zsh?
[12:52] <barnex> things that depend on bash, like rvm or nvm would require reconfiguring
[12:53] <barnex> basically you'll need to port parts of your .bashrc to .zshrc guzzlefry maybe
[12:53] <guzzlefry> ah
[12:53] <barnex> and your prompt can look different
[12:53] <barnex> other than that it's safe imo
[12:54] <barnex> and even if anything breaks you can always just go back to bash
[12:54] <k1l> you can change to zsh with "chsh" after install. of course you will have to look at settings you need afterwards
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:59] <kbob> BluesKaj: hallo
[12:59] <BluesKaj> hey kbob
[13:00] <Hanumaan> was trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 suddenly monitor is not working .. but the I can access the computer via ssh .. how to know if the upgrade process is done so that I reboot it?
[13:01] <ppf> Hanumaan: i think the upgrader creates a screen session
[13:01] <ppf> screen -ls to verifyt
[13:01] <ppf> if so, you can attach to that session
[13:02] <Hanumaan> ppf, actually it is my wrong I should have used screen .. but did not used it .. and also screen is not installed in it .. and when I try to install it says another process is using it ..
[13:03] <Hanumaan> ppf, I also see this in ps "root      4264  2.1  2.7<PHONE_NUMBER>36 ?       Ss   11:37   3:12 /usr/bin/python3 /tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-2d7w7lv2/xenial --mode=server --frontend=DistUpgradeViewGtk3"
[13:04] <Aurorasaura> umm if mv is the move command what is the copy command?
[13:04] <ppf> the do-release-upgrade screen session is owned by root
[13:04] <ppf> Aurorasaura: cp
[13:06] <Hanumaan> ppf, but screen tool is not installed .. tried with sudo .. it says "screen: command not found"
[13:08] <Aurorasaura> ty ppf
[13:08] <Aurorasaura> would duppose there is an "{undo move" commnand haha
[13:09] <scottjl>  Aurorasaura: no
[13:11] <Aurorasaura> lol scottjl , I figured not
[13:11] <Aurorasaura> Ty guys!
[13:13] <Aurorasaura> When using the cp command it says ommiting directory /var/media/test
[13:13] <scottjl> if you want to copy a directory be sure to use -r (for recursive)
[13:14] <Aurorasaura> so... sudo cp -r /var/media/test var/media/test2
[13:16] <Hanumaan> is there a way to know via ssh that upgrade process is complete?
[13:16] <Aurorasaura> Awesome. but after doing that I can't delete the folder in windows. permission denied
[13:17] <Aurorasaura> do I have to set chmod on the new folder?
[13:21] <Aurorasaura> Sorry. After using the cp -r command the newly created folder has no read or write access..
[13:21] <scottjl> cp -rp will preserve permissions too.
[13:21] <Aurorasaura> Wait. I mean it has read access but no write access
[13:21] <scottjl> you should man cp and read all about it
[13:22] <scottjl> it will be set with your default permissions, so maybe read only, yes, you'll have to change the directory & files now
[13:22] <scottjl> man chmod
[13:22] <Aurorasaura> Your awesome. My boyfriend is the smart one haha
[13:23] <scottjl> you'll probably want something like chmod -R 644 test
[13:23] <scottjl> or 774
[13:23] <Aurorasaura> Ty so much scottjl :D
[13:27] <Aurorasaura> Yeah I will search for it haha cp -rp says invalid operation
[13:29] <Aurorasaura> I was retarded... I was using rm -rp haha
[13:30] <k1l> there is a "slight" difference in rm, mv and cp. better look at what you use
[13:32] <Aurorasaura> wouldnt rm be "remove" mv is "move" and cp is "copy" ?
[13:32] <scottjl> Aurorasaura: that's correct
[13:32] <anddam> on the new ubuntu system I didn't create any gnupg key, but ran a --list-keys. Now I'm carrying over my previous ~/.gunpg and I see current ~/.gnupg on ubuntu has a pubring.kbx file that the previous, on macos, didn't have
[13:32] <Aurorasaura> Haha "Slight difference"???
[13:32] <scottjl> i think k1l is referring to the differences in switches you can add. best to check the man pages for each command to see the differences
[13:33] <Aurorasaura> Ah haha
[13:33] <anddam> should I keep that .kbx file along with old keys and db or shold I toss it and it'll get recreated if needed?
[13:33] <Aurorasaura> Sorry scottjl . I am not understanding what you mean by man pages
[13:33] <Aurorasaura> I am a newbie
[13:34] <geirha> man rm
[13:35] <anddam> that sounds unlikely, I smell troll
[13:35] <ducasse> Aurorasaura: 'man pages' = 'manual pages', documentation for commands.
[13:36] <k1l> !man | Aurorasaura
[13:40] <donald> Hello.
[13:40] <dbarton> Hello donald
[13:42] <donald> How to make a size of a filesystem partition highter by diminuite the partition of a personal data partition *when we make multiboot* and *when the two partitions are not adjacents*?
[13:45] <anddam> and now, for another round of "Reassemble the sentence"…
[13:45] <Paddy_NI> Huh?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> google translate is not your friend
[13:46] <Paddy_NI> What exactly does not make sense?
[13:46] <Paddy_NI> Or are you just being wilfully dense?
[13:46] <donald> Hmmm.
[13:46] <Paddy_NI> BAH!
[13:47] <anddam> donald: if you're not using LLVM (or the like) the non-contiguous space cannot be assigned to the same fs (AFAIK)
[13:47] <Paddy_NI> Wrong channel
[13:47] <Paddy_NI> It seems I am the one being silly
[13:47] <donald> Udenrstand incrase instead of "make a size of a filesystem highter"
[13:48] <donald> That: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLVM ?
[13:49] <ducasse> donald: you need to move partitions around to make them adjacent.
[13:49] <ducasse> donald: he meant lvm
[13:49] <anddam> donald: no, it was a lapsus, I meant LVM
[13:50] <anddam> ducasse: how do you "move" partitions?
[13:51] <anddam> I mean GPT partitions still need to be physically (in LBA sense at least) contiguous, don't they?
[13:51] <anddam> ducasse: ^
[13:51] <donald> anddam has find my problem.
[13:52] <anddam> did I?
[13:52] <ducasse> anddam: gparted has an option for it iirc, i assume it deletes and copies etc.
[13:52] <anddam> ducasse: sounds dangerous
[13:52] <ducasse> anddam: of course it is :)
[13:53] <anddam> donald: provide some actual info about the problem, like "I have a disk formatted like this and I'd like this instead"
[13:53] <anddam> also you may want to check the French channel (I figure there's one)
[13:53] <anddam> I mean ubuntu French channel, not ##paris
[13:53] <donald> anddam: but not the answer yet;)
[13:54] <anddam> !fr
[13:54] <ducasse> donald: that is because you give us essentially no info
[13:55] <donald> I have reducted the size of a partion for the personnal data. I want to move the free space into the filesystem of another os installed in multiboot.
[13:55] <donald> How to move it?
[13:56] <anddam> donald: what's the partition table type?
[13:56] <ducasse> donald: the free space needs to be adjacent to the partition you want to merge it into
[13:57] <donald> ducasse: it si not... :/
[13:59] <donald> The partition tablke is extended
[13:59] <donald> as type
[13:59] <anddam> I have no idea about what that means
[13:59] <anddam> I expected either "It's MBR" or "It's GPT"
[13:59] <anddam> I assume you're using a PC
[14:01] <donald> it is MBR
[14:01] <donald> anddam
[14:02] <leeyaa> hi
[14:03] <donald> ducasse: did I give enough infos?
[14:03] <leeyaa> I have one Ubuntu Dapper server that I really need to upgrade to a non EOL release. (I need to keep it the way it is as I can't convert it or migrate it). is it still possible somehow to upgrade from dapper, to hardy, to precise and so on ?
[14:03] <anddam> donald: not at all, it's like extracting teeth from an unwilling person
[14:03] <leeyaa> I remember last year I did it for another server, but it is no longer working this way
[14:04] <anddam> donald: binpaste the output of       sfdisk --list /dev/sda
[14:06] <donald>  How to increase a filesystem size? I decreased the partition of a personal data partition *when I made multiboot*. I did it *when the two partitions are not adjacents*.
[14:06] <anddam> and that seals the deal
[14:06] <ducasse> leeyaa: i think you are unrealistically optimistic, tbh
[14:07] <iresf> i have installed openconnect on ubuntu 16.04 to before that i used  sudo /sbin/modprobe tun   and when i restart  the system it automatically connect to  cisco account
[14:07] <iresf> how to disable it  ?
[14:07] <iresf> now i dont want use tun
[14:08] <donald> https://paste.debian.net/917632/
[14:08] <leeyaa> ducasse: well I managed to pull it last year
[14:08] <leeyaa> the dapper repos are partially up, but it cant get upgrade pre reqs stuff
[14:10] <anddam> donald: sfdisk --version
[14:10] <donald> sfdisk de util-linux 2.25.2
[14:10] <donald> anddam
[14:10] <iresf> how to disable tun  on ubuntu  ?
[14:10] <donald> iresf: is tun a software?
[14:11] <iresf> donald : no  its a modul
[14:13] <donald> anddam: why do you need it?
[14:13] <anddam> donald: repaste using     sfdisk --list --unit S /dev/sda
[14:13] <anddam> donald: to figure what you're talking about, but I won't read CHS output
[14:13] <ducasse> leeyaa: maybe someone in #ubuntu-server has an idea, otoh they might just tell you to make a clean install. sorry, no other idea.
[14:13] <anddam> even better use --unit M
[14:14] <anddam> donald: ^
[14:14] <ducasse> donald: which ubuntu version is this?
[14:14] <anddam> how old is dapper, version-wise?
[14:14] <anddam> !dapper
[14:14] <anddam> wow
[14:14] <donald> https://paste.debian.net/917633/
[14:14] <anddam> EOL 2009, meaning it was like 2004-ish?
[14:15] <Aurorasaura> Note to self: Coffee filters IN basket prior to coffee grounds.
[14:15] <ducasse> anddam: 2006, actually...
[14:15] <donald> ducasse: I am changing size of the ubuntu partition from another os in multiboot
[14:17] <anddam> ducasse: seems like it's yours now
[14:19] <ducasse> anddam: don't want it :( especially as he's asking for ubuntu support for a non-ubuntu system
[14:19]  * anddam tags-you-re-it ducasse
[14:20] <donald> I use ubuntu in multiboot :)
[14:20] <anddam> I'm afk
[14:21] <ducasse> donald: if you do this from a non-ubuntu os, then get support from them.
[14:21]  * ducasse walks away
[14:21] <donald> ok
[14:21] <donald> no problem
[14:21] <donald> :/
[14:22] <leeyaa> ducasse: I'm sure someone somewhere has dapper repos for whatever similar silly to mine reasons
[14:22] <donald> I aam pretty sure I can get teh same reaction from the both non-ubuntu os es.
[14:23] <leeyaa> donald: most people give up when you ask them something unconventional ;p (like my case)
[14:23] <Aurorasaura> Asking for asking for submarine help when you have a plane?
[14:23] <ppf> !renault
[14:23] <leeyaa> I had many cases where I ask something, people tell me it is not possible and it ends up to be possible
[14:24] <ppf> ah, not an ubuntu factoid :(
[14:24] <leeyaa> !suzuki
[14:24] <ducasse> leeyaa: it is possible, i just don't know where they'd be if they aren't in old-releases
[14:24] <leeyaa> ;p
[14:24] <ppf> leeyaa: nolyc | I tried to buy a Renault in a Renault shop, but there were no salesmen available, so I came  into this Ford shop. Why won't you sell me a Renault?!
[14:25] <leeyaa> ducasse: they are, sort of. it fails on pre reqs
[14:25] <leeyaa> ppf: lol
[14:27] <ducasse> leeyaa: right, if something is missing i have no clue where it might be. which is why i suggested asking in #ubuntu-server, as they might know.
[14:28] <leeyaa> thanks ducasse I will ask there
[14:28] <sh0t> hi guys can anyone help...suddenly my audio does not work anymore
[14:28] <sh0t> ?
[14:28] <sh0t> I am on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[14:28] <ducasse> leeyaa: there is a channel for the repo maintainers as well, but i don't remember the name. you could ask !alis.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> sh0t, did upgrade packages?
[14:29] <sh0t> I only remember i desabled audio on a guest machine in vmplayer but i dont think that related
[14:29] <sh0t> yes i did an upgrade lately but the problem apperead after a few reboots from the upgrade
[14:30] <BluesKaj> sh0t, check alsamixer automute, if enabled then disable it
[14:31] <BluesKaj> and any relevant vol ctls that are muted (MM)
[14:32] <sh0t> BluesKaj, /usr/bin/amixer -c 1 sset "Auto-Mute Mode" Disabled i ran this but it still no audio
[14:32] <BluesKaj> sh0t, open alsamixer in the terminal for a visual
[14:33] <sh0t> BluesKaj, it seems everything is disabled and I can't enable anything
[14:36] <BluesKaj> everything in alsamixer disabled ? make sure it;s alsamixer, not amixer
[14:36] <sh0t> it is alsamixer
[14:36] <sh0t> how can i show you a screenshot?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> screenshot?
[14:36] <sh0t> yeah i d like to show you what i am seeing
[14:37] <BluesKaj> imgur.com
[14:37] <ppf> are you even using alsa?
[14:37] <ppf> isn't pulseaudio the appropriate place to look?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> ppf, we start with alsa first
[14:37] <ppf> bottom-up, fair enough
[14:40] <sh0t> BluesKaj, http://imgur.com/a/8doOX
[14:40] <ppf> sh0t: hit f6
[14:41] <sh0t> it does not do anything. I know it sounds stupid...but it does not
[14:41] <sh0t> maybe f6 is captured by another app let me restart with gnome
[14:41] <sh0t> i ll be back
[14:44] <sh0t> blueking,  ppf now it works both on gnome and awesome...don't know what happened
[14:44] <sh0t> ^^ BluesKaj
[14:44] <BluesKaj> sh0t next time, aplay -l in the terminal then in alsamixer F6 and choose that card
[14:45] <sh0t> Yeah but F6 would not do anything
[14:45] <BluesKaj> device )
[14:45] <BluesKaj> device 0
[14:45] <BluesKaj> you have to choose the device/card
[14:46] <BluesKaj> then sudo alsactl store
[14:47] <sh0t> for instance if i hit F2 i should get SYstem information
[14:47] <sh0t> BUT
[14:47] <sh0t> instead i get brightness increased
[14:48] <sh0t> that's why i think when i hit f6 it gets intercepted by the wm
[14:52] <BluesKaj> BBL
[15:02] <ducasse> sh0t: you can find out if the wm/de intercepts it with xev. if xev does not print the keysym when you hit the key, it is intercepted.
[15:03] <sh0t> thanks ducasse
[15:03] <sh0t> !
[15:04] <ducasse> sh0t: np :)
[15:05] <sh0t> so xev prints stuff on the terminal when i hit
[15:05] <sh0t> F6
[15:05] <ducasse> sh0t: does it print the keysym?
[15:06] <ducasse> sh0t: it should say something like 'keysym 0xffc3, F6' on the third line
[15:06] <sh0t> mmm it says: KeymapNotify event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x0,    keys:  2
[15:07] <sh0t> and a bunch of 0s
[15:07] <ducasse> sh0t: but no KeyPress event?
[15:08] <sh0t> nope! Only focusOut, focus In, and KeymapNotify
[15:08] <ducasse> sh0t: then it is intercepted
[15:09] <sh0t> by the wm? or By let's say the alsamixer program?
[15:09] <ducasse> sh0t: most likely by the wm
[15:10] <sh0t> by the wm i take it cause F7 and F8 behave similarly and they increase/decrease  the volume
[15:10] <sh0t> allright thanks ducasse...
[15:10] <comptekki> I have three ?'
[15:10] <comptekki> ?'s
[15:11] <k1l> comptekki: can you give more context?
[15:11] <comptekki> 1. How to get natural scrolling working on ubuntu gnome
[15:11] <comptekki> 2. no screen sleep when locking screen with ctl-alt-l
[15:12] <comptekki> this is with 17.04 beta 1
[15:12] <ducasse> !ubuntu+1
[15:12] <ducasse> comptekki: ^^
[15:13] <comptekki> ah ok. will go there thx
[15:14] <ducasse> comptekki: it's a development release, problems are to be expected.
[15:14] <comptekki> these issues seem to be problems in 16.x and previous also
[15:15] <comptekki> i'll ping the folks on +1 thx
[15:33] <BluesKaj> sh0t, which audio chip do you have ?
[15:36] <sh0t> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24096420/
[15:39] <kosta7> hello ubuntu
[15:40] <kosta7> i've just cleaned up 3GB of old kernels
[15:40] <kosta7> lately i have been changing kernels more often than I am changing shirts
[15:41] <k1l> apt autoremove will do that automatically since 16.04
[15:42] <BluesKaj> sh0t, sometimes after package upgrades in the audio section the snd-hda-intel driver is unloaded, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, will load the driver and a reboot is usually required
[15:43] <kosta7> well that's exactly what I am doing, I am running 16.04 LTS, who knew there would be so many kernels on LTS
[15:43] <k1l> kosta7: look at ubuntu.com/usn what security issues there are to be fixed.
[15:44] <BluesKaj> kosta7, run sudo apt-get autoremove once aweek or so should help keep / cleaned up
[15:44] <sh0t> BluesKaj, would I need to do that at every reboot?
[15:45] <kosta7> BluesKaj, yes maybe i should put it on my weekly cron
[15:45] <sulfyr> k1l: does it keep the last used kernel or wipe them all?
[15:45] <k1l> sulfyr: it will keep the last 2 kernels
[15:46] <sulfyr> nice, thanks!
[15:46] <BluesKaj> sh0t, not if you add the line , options snd-hda-intel index=0 to this file, /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[15:47] <kosta7> k1l, I still have 12 kernels after autoremove, maybe i should reboot and try again, i think i am not running the latest
[15:47] <sh0t> ok
[15:47] <sh0t> thanks BluesKaj
[15:47] <Frantic> Guys, I'm trying to figure out exactly what net.core.somaxconn does, but when I google for it I get a zillion articles about tuning connections and etc, but never the description of what it does
[15:48] <k1l> kosta7: are that ubuntu kernels from the repo?
[15:48] <Frantic> Any idea where I can find a man page or something similar of the sysctl values?
[15:48] <k1l> kosta7: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:48] <kosta7> k1l, yes, whatever came with automatic updates
[15:48] <kosta7> sure
[15:49] <kosta7> http://termbin.com/asl5
[15:49] <kosta7> that's pretty cool that you can redirect your output directly through a socket
[15:49] <BluesKaj> sh0t, hope it works for you , things are chnaging fast on the 'buntus so there's no guarantee
[15:49] <sh0t> yeah
[15:50] <sh0t> i can see that :)
[15:50] <EriC^^> kosta7: 3 kernels there still
[15:50] <EriC^^> kosta7: type uname -r
[15:50] <kosta7> EriC^^, i am currently on .63
[15:50] <BluesKaj> ok , got some snow to push here, ...big storm last night
[15:50] <BluesKaj> BBL
[15:51] <genii> Luckily none here
[15:51] <pavlos> kosta7, 63 appears removed (rc in the beginning
[15:51] <kosta7> BluesKaj, we were lucky, we just got a little bit of snow
[15:51] <BluesKaj> genii, I have 4ft snow drift across the driveway
[15:52] <kosta7> ohh that's what rc means haha
[15:52] <k1l> kosta7: only the "ii" ones are isntalled.
[15:52] <EriC^^> kosta7: dpkg -l | awk '$1 == "rc" && /linux-image/ {print $2}' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[15:52] <EriC^^> kosta7: oh, 63 has been removed btw
[15:52] <kosta7> why would it remove the kernel i am currently running ?
[15:52] <k1l> kosta7: rc only means that there are the config files left
[15:52] <EriC^^> kosta7: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-4.4.0-{62,64}-generic linux-image-4.4.0-63-generic+
[15:53] <kosta7> yes i got it now, thank you for clearning that out
[15:53] <kosta7> EriC^^, i don't want to risk that, i want to have at leats 3 kernels to choose :)
[15:54] <kosta7> I already know that my current kernel won't be there on the next boot
[15:54] <EriC^^> kosta7: first command will remove all rc ones, second will remove 62 and 64 and leave you with 65 and will reinstall 63 in case you need to boot into it after restarting
[15:54] <EriC^^> kosta7: ;)
[15:56] <multifractal> How do I find out where apt-get has put a package? I'm looking for a particular .so file called libsatlas.so
[15:56] <b4r> hello
[15:56] <EriC^^> multifractal: try "locate libsatlas.so"
[15:56] <b4r> is this where I report the issue pasted here? https://dpaste.de/x6eY can someone help report for me?
[15:57] <kosta7> EriC^^, I understand what they do :)
[15:58] <EriC^^> kosta7: then why'd you say EriC^^, i don't want to risk that, i want to have at leats 3 kernels to choose :)
 I already know that my current kernel won't be there on the next boot ?
[15:59] <kosta7> yes, i am talking about 63, my poor kernel is gone
[15:59] <EriC^^> yes i'm saying the command reinstalls it, the 63-generic+ at the end will actually install it
[16:00] <kosta7> ohh my bad, i am running 62
[16:00] <kosta7> need more coffee
[16:00] <EriC^^> :D
[16:01] <kosta7> so it literally kept my current kernel and last 2, smarty pants
[16:01] <EriC^^> yeah, not bad
[16:03] <kosta7> i think i am gonna go back to freebsd, i used to reboot every couple of years and if i needed any kernel changes i would use kldload
[16:05] <EriC^^> kosta7: never used freebsd, i like ubuntu though
[16:05] <compdoc> so its a bad to apply updates and then reboot?
[16:05] <kosta7> well Ubuntu has a good community, that's what I love about it
[16:05] <ducasse> multifractal: also 'dpkg -L packagename' or 'apt-file -F packagename'
[16:07] <k1l> kosta7: ubuntu/canonical offers free livepatching for the kernel for 3 machines
[16:08] <xangua> And doesn't redhat has a similar tool?
[16:09] <aotaointbin> rpm and yum?
[16:09] <xangua> aotaointbin: livepatch
[16:09] <aotaointbin> or are you talking about livepatching for the kernel :P
[16:09] <aotaointbin> sorry :P
[16:09] <k1l> redhat/oracle have ksplice but they dont offer a free service
[16:10] <akik> ksplice is free for ubuntu desktop and fedora
[16:10] <k1l> well, oracle is using ksplice, redhat/suse use kpatch/kgraft.
[16:11] <k1l> akik: the technology is open source, but you need to maintain the kernelpatches yourself. that is what canonical offers as a free service.
[16:12] <akik> "Oracle has made the kernel protections from Oracle Ksplice available for free to members of the Linux community for their desktop installations of Ubuntu and Fedora."
[16:14] <k1l> akik: oh, i see it on ksplice now do you know since when that service is there?
[16:15] <akik> k1l: no i don't remember but i tested it maybe 3 years ago
[16:16] <k1l> akik: it wasnt there for free end of 2016
[16:16] <kosta7> k1l, livepatch sounds pretty cool
[16:17] <akik> k1l: wikipedia says as of july 2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ksplice
[16:18] <k1l> akik: ok
[16:18] <kosta7> do you guys know any good ubuntu/linux magazines ?
[16:21] <ub_ubuntu> kosta7: Online resources are the best...
[16:24] <matteo_> ciaoo
[16:24] <scottjl> kosta7: online resources are going to be the most up-to-date.
[16:25] <jayjo> I'm trying to set up a system service to start on launch. I placed a script in /etc/init.d/jupyterhub, is that enough to run sudo service jupyterhub?
[16:25] <scottjl> jayjo: make sure it has eXecute set (chmod +x jupyterhub)
[16:26] <jayjo> OK - it has correct permissions. When I run sudo service jupyterhub start - is there a way to get verbose output? Is that part of my init.d script?
[16:27] <scottjl> your script would have to print any output you want it to have
[16:27] <scottjl> or you could /etc/init.d/jupyterhub start
[16:28] <jayjo> Is executing start just executing the do_start component?
[16:28] <scottjl> it should. did you write this script yourself or was it supplied with jupyterhub?
[16:29] <scottjl> most standard init scripts include a start, stop, restart, status command
[16:29] <jayjo> It was supplied - but I can dig in and make modifications. Here is the "guide" with the sript included https://github.com/jupyterhub/jupyterhub/wiki/Run-jupyterhub-as-a-system-service
[16:29] <jayjo> I don't see a status command
[16:29] <scottjl> probably just wasn't included
[16:31] <kosta7> jayjo, you can just create a shell script and put it in /etc/rc.local, unless you really want a service
[16:59] <rayn> how to know why is explorer.exe executing. i dont have wine installed. What else could be?
[17:02] <nacc> rayn: what makes you think it is executing? `pstree <pid>` may help
[17:05] <rayn> nacc: it is cosumming a lot of cpu. "ps -feww|grep explorer" -> "23041  2315  2 10:40 ?        00:00:33 C:\windows\system32\explorer.exe /desktop"
[17:06] <Rookiee`> hi
[17:07] <Rookiee`> I am a linux admin and i am interested to do any project to imrove my linux Availability or controlling cpu limit etc
[17:07] <Rookiee`> any one any idea?
[17:07] <scottjl> Rookiee`: maybe try #linux  ?
[17:07] <nicomachus> Rookiee`: you can limit cpu with cpufreq, idk what you mean by the rest of that.
[17:08] <nacc> rayn: are you on windows? you can't run a windows executable normally in linux
[17:08] <nacc> rayn: pstree will tell you what spawned that pid, but it seems buggy
[17:09] <matsaman> "problem resolver broke stuff" that's a good one
[17:10] <Rookiee`> matsaman: ??
[17:10] <matsaman> Rookiee`: correct
[17:11] <rayn> nacc no no windows. ubuntu 16.04. "pstree 23041" -> "explorer.exe───3*[{explorer.exe}]". Wnat other programs emulate windows programs?
[17:11] <Rookiee`> matsaman:  what ?/
[17:12] <nacc> Rookiee`: i assume matsaman is trolling and is ot anyways
[17:12] <nicomachus> rayn: only Wine... PlayOnLinux does, but it does it through Wine
[17:12] <nacc> rayn: what nicomachus said :)
[17:12] <nicomachus> o/
[17:12] <nacc> rayn: you may want pstree -p (to show pids) and then see what the topmost parent is
[17:13] <aotaointbin> wine is not [an] emulator
[17:13] <matsaman> Rookiee`: just a hilarious error from apt-get
[17:13] <aotaointbin> Rookiee`: man nice
[17:13] <Rookiee`> I said cpu laod as example
[17:14] <nacc> Rookiee`: cgroups generally is probably what you should learn about
[17:14]  * blueking shoots sh0t
[17:14] <Rookiee`> nacc:   aotaointbin any one have any idea about docker?
[17:14] <Rookiee`> what it does?
[17:14] <scottjl> i love docker
[17:15] <nicomachus> !info cgroups | Rookiee`
[17:15] <Rookiee`> scottjl:  what exactly it do and how its helps?
[17:15] <nicomachus> oops
[17:15] <aotaointbin> i'm not a fan of docker, but lots of other people love it.
[17:15] <rayn> nacc: it looks it is self executing? :\ "pstree -p 23041" -> "explorer.exe(23041)─┬─{explorer.exe}(23059)                    ├─{explorer.exe}(23060)                    └─{explorer.exe}(23061)"
[17:15] <scottjl> Rookiee`: go to docker.io and you can read more than you can stand about docker
[17:16] <scottjl> aotaointbin: if you need what it does, it does it well.
[17:16] <Rookiee`> scottjl:  can u give small example how I can use it ?/ so ,amy sy they love docker
[17:16] <nacc> Rookiee`: what docker does is offtopic here really -- they have their own channel and so much documentation online
[17:16] <aotaointbin> so, yes, in theory. say i want to containerize apache. but i always want security updates for apache.
[17:16] <Rookiee`> I am not able to join
[17:16] <aotaointbin> now what? :P
[17:16] <Rookiee`> i already tried
[17:16] <nacc> !register | Rookiee`
[17:17] <Rookiee`> oknye then
[17:17] <rayn> nicomachus: thanks. No no wine instaled "wine ->No command 'wine' found,"
[17:18] <Guest79359> Hello :)
[17:25] <aotaointbin> is the www-data user a system account?
[17:25] <rayn> why would upstart  start explorer? systemd(1)───lightdm(1242)───lightdm(2284)───upstart(2315)───explorer.exe(23041)─┬─{explorer.exe}(23059)├─{explorer.exe}(23060)└─{explorer.exe}(23061)
[17:25] <scottjl> aotaointbin: yes.
[17:25] <aotaointbin> thanks :)
[17:26] <nacc> rayn: upstart is the session manager still (iirc) for the DEs
[17:26] <scottjl> aotaointbin: pretty much any UID under 1000, and usually always under 500 is a system account. at least that's tradition
[17:26] <aotaointbin> and presumable the www-group is a system group?
[17:26] <k1l> rayn: i guess thats a wine thing
[17:26] <aotaointbin> scottjl: i know, but i'm working with an image that has the www-data user/group deleted. trying to recreate them correctly.
[17:27] <nacc> k1l: rayn says they do not have wine installed
[17:27] <scottjl> aotaointbin: yeah i discussed them with you yesterday. ;-) the group is www-data, both user and group are www-data, and uid/gid 33/33
[17:27]  * aotaointbin has terrible memory :P
[17:27] <scottjl> aotaointbin: it's ok
[17:27] <aotaointbin> does it need to be 33?
[17:28] <scottjl> aotaointbin: it should be 33, simply because any existing files with 33:33 need to be reattached to that uid/gid
[17:28] <aotaointbin> gotcha.
[17:28] <scottjl> ubuntu is expecting them to be 33:33
[17:28] <k1l> nacc: well, ubuntu doesnt use explorer.exe. that is clearly a wine thing.
[17:28] <nacc> k1l: agreed :)
[17:29] <scottjl> assuming it isn't a script or other program simply named "explorer.exe"
[17:31] <k1l> rayn: "apt policy wine* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[17:31] <nacc> scottjl: good point, you can also look at the pid's state in /proc, i guess
[17:33] <rayn> k1l: http://termbin.com/rozh
[17:33] <rayn> k1l thanks for that
[17:34] <ioria> rayn, wine-staging: is installed
[17:34] <k1l> rayn: "wine-staging:"
[17:34] <ioria> rayn, same issue here : https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=213220
[17:37] <rayn> ioria, k1l : thanks a lot my friends :) . time tu purge that thing
[17:37] <ioria> rayn, it's possible that it runs by itself also without any win apps running, mayb purge it
[17:42] <EEzzekiel> test
[17:42] <scottjl> #fail
[17:44] <su_> Hello
[17:44] <scottjl> hi
[17:45] <su_> hei
[17:46] <su_> chinaes
[17:50] <finexbeer> Lenovo N22-20 it good for programming
[17:50] <finexbeer> ??
[17:52] <Camron> OK, I am setting a ubutu server 16.04 up which i have done before but this time i am unable to get the static ip to work... any help
[17:53] <finexbeer> Lenovo N22-20 ist good for programming??
[17:53] <scottjl> Camron: where/how are you setting the ip?
[17:53] <compdoc> Camron, how are you setting it up?
[17:53] <nacc> !ot | finexbeer
[17:54] <Camron> under the /etc/network folder
[17:55] <scottjl> Camron: can you put your config file in a pastebin or something we can view it at? we can't just guess
[17:55] <compdoc> Camron, use pastebin.com, and show us your  /etc/network/interfaces file. thats the only one you should be changing
[17:55] <firesign> How can I disable the keyring for a certain user?  I don't want passwords being saved for that user.
[17:56] <scottjl> compdoc: well he could be setting it up in interfaces.d...
[17:59] <Camron> Here you go   http://pastebin.com/KXRb4cQ2
[18:00] <Camron> im using interfaces
[18:00] <RonWhoCares> How do I do this:   The suggested workaround is ti set <tt>intel_idle.max_cstate=1</tt> in the kernel parameters. So far the Lapbook works without freezes since I added this to grub startup routine.
[18:00] <scottjl> Camron: what does ifconfig ens160 show you?
[18:01] <compdoc> Camron, looks ok. does the interface ens160 exist? is network manager installed and fighting you?
[18:01] <k1l> !nomodeset | RonWhoCares
[18:01] <k1l> RonWhoCares: use that howto to test it, instead of setting nomodeset use your parameter
[18:01] <RonWhoCares> ok
[18:01] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: reboot the pc, hold shift, when you get grub press "e" , in the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz ..... quiet splash add it
[18:01] <RonWhoCares> That is the symptom I am having
[18:01] <k1l> RonWhoCares: do the "one time edit on grub menu pressing e" method for testing
[18:01] <EriC^^> then press ctrl+x to boot it as a temp boot
[18:01] <ioria> Camron, do you have  "auto lo"  and "iface lo inet loopback" in your interfaces file ?
[18:07] <BluesKaj> Camron, your dns nameservers should be set in /etc/resolv.conf
[18:07] <Camron> no i dont
[18:08] <Camron> ok, ill do that after i get a static ip to the server
[18:08] <BluesKaj> Camron, if you want static IP on your network then your interfaces file is fine , except the above
[18:09] <scottjl> BluesKaj: setting the dns in the interfaces file is perfectly valid.
[18:09] <Camron> i dont have a static ip.... just the loopback at the moment i will put te dns in the resolve.conf file hare i get the static ip working
[18:09] <BluesKaj> Camron, otherwise you'll need NM without the static setting
[18:10] <scottjl> Camron: what does "ifconfig ens160" show you?
[18:10] <Camron> I have added the dns in the interface file on every system I have used
[18:10] <ioria> rayn, yes, is fine ... why asking ?
[18:10] <scottjl> Camron: dns-nameservers is perfectly valid. resolv.conf will be updated appropriately.
[18:11] <BluesKaj> Camron, it doesn't hurt , but the best palce for nameservrs is in resolv.conf
[18:11] <Camron> ok will do that
[18:11] <scottjl> resolv.conf will be overwritten on boot, editing the file is pointless
[18:12] <ioria> Camron,  be sure the interface is up
[18:12] <ducasse> BluesKaj: it will be put in resolv.conf by the ifup scripts if listed in interfaces
[18:13] <BluesKaj> scottjl, it used to be with that dumb /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf  fiel, but it's been removed
[18:14] <scottjl> BluesKaj: it's still the behavior in 16.04.
[18:14] <Camron> http://pastebin.com/1t4uBtJb
[18:14] <BluesKaj> scottjl, hmm i thought it was removed
[18:15] <ioria> Camron,  please paste ' ip a'
[18:15] <scottjl> Camron: change your interfaces file from ens160 to eth0
[18:16] <shubjero> I just did kernel upgrades for about 100 servers. Was updating from 3.13.0-107 to 3.13.0-111 but for about two dozen servers I'm now only getting offered 3.13.0-110 from the ubuntu repository for Trusty. Anyone know whats going on?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> ok , I can't argue since I havent run 16.04 in almost a yr ...on 17.04 bata 1 atm :-)
[18:16] <Camron> the server is on a vmware server
[18:16] <nacc> shubjero: 111 is only in -proposed. Why are you running proposed on 100 servers?
[18:17] <scottjl> change your "ens160" in your interfaces file to "eth0"
[18:17] <shubjero> nacc: I'm not running proposed. Perhaps the ubuntu mirror accidentlly pushed -111 ?
[18:17] <shubjero> because its gone now
[18:17] <k1l> shubjero: do you have proposed enabled? that is not good because that is the testing bed for the automated testings
[18:17] <nacc> shubjero: that seems unlikely
[18:17] <k1l> !info linux-generic trusty
[18:17] <nacc> ah maybe it just migrated?
[18:18] <shubjero> # grep -i proposed /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:18] <shubjero> root@compute5-r5:~#
[18:18] <shubjero> nope!
[18:18] <nacc> rmadison says that's still in trusty-proposed, but the archive might be updating right now
[18:18] <Camron> when editing the file from default the ens160 was in place of eth0
[18:18] <shubjero> uname -a
[18:18] <shubjero> Linux compute5-r5 3.13.0-111-generic #158-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 22 16:12:03 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:18] <k1l> shubjero: different mirrors?
[18:19] <shubjero> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[18:19] <k1l> shubjero: -security enabled on all?
[18:19] <shubjero> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security main restricted universe multiverse
[18:19] <shubjero> we're using this repo consistently across all servers
[18:20] <Camron> i made a copy of the interface file if i copy it back it will work find using dhcp
[18:20] <shubjero> we noticed a change midway through our ansible runs of updating kernels that all of a sudden 111 was no longer being presented
[18:20] <aprell> Hi, whenever my ubuntu clients connects to my openvpn server, all network activity on the client slows down. Like getting a "resolving host" message in browser for 15 seconds before going through. This isn't even tunneling over the vpn; simply having openvpn running and connected causes this, and terminating it immediately fixes the problem.
[18:20] <k1l> can you compare a "apt-cache policy linux-generic" from one working server and one not working server?
[18:21] <scottjl> Camron: if your "ifconfig -a" doesn't show ens160 then that isn't the proper name of your interface. if it shows eth0, then that's what you should use in the config file
[18:21] <scottjl> Camron: it's possible the interface was renamed on you
[18:21] <shubjero> k1l: https://paste.ee/p/WVqYc
[18:21] <Camron> renamed from the begining of the install... this is a new install
[18:21] <akik> !cookie | scottjl
[18:22] <scottjl> akik: i'm on a diet.
[18:22] <k1l> shubjero: can you run apt-get update on that amchine that doesnt work and test it again?
[18:22] <xangua> No gluten cookie
[18:22] <aprell> On a windows client, no problem with the vpn. I had a sinilar problem before with another vpn service on linux and remember it was related to resolv.conf. Any ideas for diagnosing this?
[18:23] <k1l> shubjero: looks like there was pushed a 110 to security just 20 minutes ago
[18:24] <shubjero> k1l: yeah man, someones messing with the repo's lol
[18:24] <Camron> ens160 shows up
[18:24] <BluesKaj> systemd at work there
[18:25] <akik> Camron: how did ens160 show up? where did eth0 go?
[18:25] <Welastevil> hi
[18:26] <Welastevil> Im havin problem installing steamlauncher
[18:26] <arooni> anyway to uninstall tracker-minus-fs ?  it seems like it dominates cpu on each system startup.
[18:26] <BluesKaj> Camron, does, ip a | grep inet, show ens160 ?
[18:26] <scottjl> akik: it ran away with the cookie
[18:26] <Welastevil> Its short so Im not pastbin it ok?
[18:27] <Welastevil> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:27] <Welastevil> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:27] <Welastevil> y
[18:27] <ducasse> Welastevil: do you see the question in that error message?
[18:28] <ducasse> Welastevil: is another apt/dpkg running?
[18:28] <akik> Camron: are you trying to fix your problem on multiple channels? people use their time to help you
[18:29] <k1l> shubjero: you can ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[18:29] <shubjero> ok
[18:29] <Welastevil> yeas
[18:29] <scottjl> akik he's only in #ubuntu
[18:29] <Welastevil> but I dont know the answer
[18:29] <BluesKaj> unattended-upgrades no doubt
[18:29] <Camron> inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS> Mask:<IP_ADDRESS> int6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[18:29] <ducasse> Welastevil: are you running software center while installing in a terminal, for example?
[18:30] <Welastevil> mmm maybe!
[18:30] <Welastevil>  let me check
[18:30] <Camron> when I use VirtualBox it used wth0 when I use vmware it used ens160
[18:30] <Welastevil> nope
[18:31] <Camron> eth0
[18:31] <Welastevil> not that I can see
[18:31] <ducasse> Welastevil: ok, it could be an automatic repo update. try again in a minute or two.
[18:32] <Welastevil> ok
[18:32] <Welastevil>  and it its not working any way?
[18:32] <Welastevil>  any sugestions?
[18:33] <ducasse> Welastevil: if it still doesn't work, use pgrep and pkill to find the stray dpkg/apt process, and kill it.
[18:33] <akik> Camron: use the interface name that your system sees in the configuration file "ifconfig -a"
[18:33] <Welastevil> wow
[18:33] <akik> Camron: "ifconfig -a" lists all the network interfaces that your system sees
[18:34] <Welastevil> sorry man
[18:34] <Welastevil>  dont know how to use that
[18:35] <anddam> scottjl: how can you possibly know that?
[18:35] <aotaointbin> so, i have a user account where i can use sudo without a password.
[18:35] <ducasse> Welastevil: try 'pkill dpkg'
[18:35] <aotaointbin> but when i sudo -u otheruser, it prompts for a password.
[18:35] <scottjl> anddam: uhhh. /whois camron
[18:36] <anddam> scottjl: whois will only list the channels that you and the target share
[18:36] <aotaointbin> what do i do with sudoers to make it passwordless for other things?
[18:36] <Welastevil> ok!
[18:36] <Welastevil> now it works
[18:36]  * aotaointbin reads https://www.sudo.ws/man/1.8.13/sudoers.man.html
[18:36] <Welastevil>  but I got stuck on a screem
[18:37] <anddam> scottjl: that's on freenode, at least. It's been like that since several years due to security reasons
[18:37] <ducasse> Welastevil: that says what?
[18:37] <Welastevil> got it!
[18:37] <Welastevil>  got it
[18:37] <anddam> Aurorasaura: hint, "NOPASSWD"
[18:37] <Welastevil>  thank youuuu
[18:37] <aotaointbin> yea i see that already.
[18:38] <ducasse> Welastevil: np :)
[18:38] <anddam> Aurorasaura: wrong nick
[18:38] <arooni> spotify doesnt seem to obey media binding keys on ubuntu 16.04
[18:38] <scottjl> anddam: ah. a freenode thing then. because that's not rfc spec
[18:38] <aotaointbin> my user account is in sudoers with useraccount ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: SHUTDOWN_CMDS
[18:38] <Welastevil> oh no exactly
[18:38] <Welastevil> configuring stem
[18:38] <aotaointbin> trying to keep the permissions as narrow as possible
[18:38] <Welastevil>  at the terminal... but no key that I press passes it
[18:38] <aotaointbin> (i.e. trying to avoid useraccount ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[18:39] <ducasse> Welastevil: is it stuck or is there an error message?
[18:39] <anddam> aotaointbin: seems wise
[18:39] <Welastevil> no error
[18:39] <ducasse> Welastevil: where are you doing this, in ubuntu software or a terminal?
[18:40] <aotaointbin> ah, so, do i define a new alias Cmnd_Alias SUDO_CMD = /usr/bin/sudo
[18:40] <aotaointbin> and then just make it useraccount ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: SHUTDOWN_CMDS | SUDO_CMD
[18:40] <Welastevil> terminal
[18:40] <Welastevil> because could nou do from the sftware update
[18:40] <ducasse> Welastevil: pastebin the whole thing on paste.ubuntu.com
[18:41] <akik> i wish Camron would update his status with any debugging info
[18:42] <Welastevil> now its done!
[18:42] <Welastevil>  sorry disturbing
[18:42] <Welastevil> )))
[18:42] <Welastevil> my fault...
[18:43] <ducasse> Welastevil: ok, good.
[18:43] <Welastevil> now its installed
[18:43] <Welastevil> with a link at my desktop area bot not lounching
[18:44] <anddam>  I installed nfs-kernel-server and it pulled in keyutils libnfsidmap2 libtirpc1 nfs-common rpcbind
[18:45] <anddam> now I purged nfs-kernel-server but 'apt autoremove' isn't listing those as not needed anymore
[18:45] <anddam> how do I find non required package installed as dependencies?
[18:48] <ducasse> anddam: try looking at the reverse depends for nfs-common, as that probably drags in the rest
[18:48] <aotaointbin> so, regarding sudoers, how do i make NOPASSWD: CMD_ALIAS_1 + CMD_ALIAS_2
[18:49] <platz> odd behavior from a usb3 expresscard for my laptop: if I plug in a usb 2 device, it works, but if I plug in a usb 3 device, the whole system gets a cascading lag effect until i unplug the expresscard - but no messages in dmesg otherwise.
[18:50] <platz> strangely the same behavior happens when booting in windows.. so maybe a hardware issue?
[18:50] <scottjl> atomekk: user ALL=(root) NOPASSWD /some/command, /some/other
[18:50] <aotaointbin> so i'm looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers and it doesn't address this specific case
[18:50] <platz> on a t420 lenovo
[18:50] <aotaointbin> ah, comma?
[18:50] <scottjl> yes
[18:50] <scottjl> sorry. tab completed wrong
[18:50] <scottjl> oops. forgot my : too
[18:51] <scottjl> user ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /some/command, /some/other
[18:51] <ducasse> platz: try ##hardware?
[18:51] <aotaointbin> so, that's for commands, but not necessarily for Cmnd_Alias i think
[18:51] <scottjl> man sudoers   has lots of info
[18:51] <aotaointbin> i mean, the syntax checks out, but it doesn't work :P
[18:51] <platz> is there some other place i can look for log messages that would explain hard lags that wouldn't show up in dmesg?
[18:51] <aotaointbin> yea, man sudoers is a bit... complicated :P
[18:52] <aotaointbin> and i'm familiar with EBNF grammars, though very very rusty.
[18:52] <Welastevil> it says that some drivers are missing
[18:52] <rymax99> My general rule is I don't give anyone access to sudo unless I fully trust them to have root-level access on the boxc
[18:53] <scottjl> ohh misunderstood. two alises on the same line. hmm. if , doesn't work. then just do two separate lines.
[18:53] <BluesKaj> command aliases belong in bash_aliases
[18:53] <rymax99> ^
[18:53] <BluesKaj> er .bash_aliases
[18:53] <aotaointbin> oh. two lines won't just have one overwrite the previous?
[18:53] <scottjl> no
[18:53]  * aotaointbin tries
[18:53] <scottjl> sudoer's takes the first line that matches and stops. if it falls thru line 1 it will go to 2
[18:53] <akik> aotaointbin: there's a complex example at the end of "man sudoers"
[18:54] <aotaointbin> oh yay.
[18:54] <aotaointbin> i think that works.
[18:54] <aotaointbin> i can sudo sudo -u now, at least :P
[18:54] <aotaointbin> but wait...
[18:54] <scottjl> yeah. just something to keep in mind. the first line that matches wins. so if what you think isn't working, look above!
[18:54] <qwr> join #bountysource
[18:55] <aotaointbin> yea that didn't help, actually. nevermind. i'm being stupid, i think.
[18:55] <aotaointbin> so, i think i was asking the wrong question.
[18:56] <jason_-> hello I'm stuck in a login loop. I'm pretty sure it's related to graphics drivers/opengl/etc. Please halp. I've tried purging all drivers, reinstalling xorg everything, glx, etc.
[18:56] <anddam> ducasse: that's what I did, in fact but why didn't the removal of nfs-kernel-server triggered the autoremove of nfs-common?
[18:56] <aotaointbin> i have passwordless sudo for all commands, but when i sudo -u something, i get prompted.
[18:57] <aotaointbin> how can i make sudo -u not prompt? :P
[18:57] <scottjl> aotaointbin: user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[18:57] <scottjl> but make sure that line is before some other match for "user" in the file.
[18:58] <aotaointbin> it is, and it still prompts :\
[18:58] <ducasse> anddam: i told you, look at the reverse depends. something that was already installed wants it.
[18:59] <scottjl> aotaointbin:  log out and back in
[18:59] <aotaointbin> i just did, still prompting.
[18:59] <scottjl> check your file for any other reference to user. comment it out
[18:59] <BluesKaj> ao reboot
[18:59] <BluesKaj> aotaointbin,^
[19:00] <scottjl> aotaointbin: is this the box that you "security guy" borked up on you? hah. forget it.
[19:00] <aotaointbin> no other references by user (there's still a group reference further down, but it's also ALL=(ALL) ALL
[19:00] <BluesKaj> aotaointbin, reboot , logout/in doesn't cut it for sudo afaik
[19:00] <aotaointbin> scottjl: yea. he's insisting on keeping www-data deleted :P
[19:00] <aotaointbin> BluesKaj: will try that now.
[19:00] <scottjl> wtf? why?
[19:01] <aotaointbin> though, admittedly, reboot in the middle of an ansible task will be :(
[19:01] <scottjl> i won't expect anything on that box to work like it should.
[19:01] <akik> aotaointbin: this is from man sudoers:      When multiple entries match for a user, they are applied in order.  Where there are multiple matches, the last
[19:01] <aotaointbin> rebooting didn't help.
[19:01] <akik>      match is used (which is not necessarily the most specific match)
[19:01] <aotaointbin> akik: ah...
[19:02] <aotaointbin> let me check /etc/sudoers.d then.
[19:02] <aotaointbin> nothing there..
[19:03] <aotaointbin> so, the last match _should_ be   %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[19:03] <aotaointbin> unless that doesn't match sudo -u usage
[19:03] <aotaointbin> in which case it'd be %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[19:03] <scottjl> %sudo would refer to a group named sudo
[19:03] <aotaointbin> right, and user is in group sudo
[19:04] <scottjl> ok
[19:04] <BluesKaj> aotaointbin,, did you do, sudo visudo for, user ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[19:05] <aotaointbin> okay, yea, that's it. it's the sudo group.
[19:05] <BluesKaj> don't use the sudoers file directly
[19:05] <aotaointbin> i put 'user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL' at the end (after the sudo group lines) and that did it.
[19:06] <BluesKaj> usually it should be a the 2nd last line
[19:09] <aotaointbin> i think i found a workaround to mucking with sudoers.
[19:09] <aotaointbin> i'll just sudo sudo -u instead of just sudo -u
[19:09] <aotaointbin> root isn't in group sudo :P
[19:09] <scottjl> i don't envy you having to use this guy's systems. lol
[19:10] <aotaointbin> at least he provided me with his provisioning scripts so that i know what's broken.
[19:10] <scottjl> fix the script and give it back to him
[19:10] <aotaointbin> one man's fix is another man's security hole.
[19:11] <scottjl> removing www-data isn't fixing a hole. lol.
[19:11] <Nobabs27> PCG-41218L (Sony Vaio) driver support? IE switching in between GPUs
[19:11] <aotaointbin> i can basically imagine that conversation, though. "there shouldn't be any user accounts that aren't necessary. period."
[19:12] <scottjl> but you're adding it back because you need it, right?
[19:12] <aotaointbin> yup. and he'll say "good. if you install apache, you should create www-data, but not a minute before."
[19:13] <aotaointbin> oh yay. so i got this part working. now i have to figure out what kind of firewall lockdown he implemented.
[19:13] <Nobabs27> I guess im asking would that work or is basically not a thing a in Linux rn because Sony?
[19:13] <scottjl> iptables --list
[19:13] <scottjl> i'd say he's old school, but he sounds more like assh...
[19:13] <aotaointbin> $ sudo iptables --list | wc -l
[19:14] <aotaointbin> 173
[19:14] <scottjl> gak
[19:14] <scottjl> iptables --flush
[19:14] <scottjl> if he doesn't have any users, and he uninstalled all services, what does he need 173 rules for???
[19:15] <scottjl> to block logins for non-existing users to non-existing services?
[19:17] <arooni> how do i set up xbindkeysrc ; so that it works with a key combination; not just a single key?
[19:18] <meec> arooni, did you check autokey? it might help you
[19:18] <anddam> ducasse: ok, but then why wasn't nfs-common installed in first place? it got installed as dependency when I installed nfs-kernel-server
[19:19] <anddam> ducasse: that's also a cryptic way to say I don't know how to look for dependencies/reverse dependencies
[19:19] <p0llock> hello, can anyone help me with a bad sd card? fdisk does not find it
[19:19] <nacc> anddam: reverse-depends or apt-cache rdepends
[19:20] <Apachez> when did "Trashcan" change name to "Rubbish bin" in ubuntu ?
[19:20] <Nobabs27> You switched to British English?
[19:20] <Nobabs27> xD
[19:21] <ducasse> anddam: because it might for instance be a suggestion instead of a hard depend. a regular install of that package wouldn't drag in nfs-common, but it won't be automatically removed if installed later as it fills the suggestion.
[19:21] <anddam> anyway, I see systemd status for nfs-kernel-server is    Active: active (exited) since gio 2017-03-02 20:17:42 CET; 1s ago
[19:22] <anddam> is it normal for it to be (exited)? I ask as this is a kernel server so maybe the unit is only used as controller or so and the process is supposed to not stay around
[19:22] <anddam> ducasse: that's a good explanation, thanks
[19:24] <ducasse> arooni: 'xbindkeys -d' will print a default rc file with examples
[19:27] <ducasse> anddam: does it say 'status=0/SUCCESS' after main pid?
[19:31] <anddam> ducasse: all 0, I assume the lowest PID is the main one
[19:31] <anddam> no my bad, it's written right there
[19:31] <anddam> still 0 but it's clearly shown which one is the main
[19:32] <ducasse> anddam: ok, then you're good
[19:33] <anddam> what would be a proper point to mount a NFS share at?
[19:33] <anddam> I mean in hier
[19:33] <nicman23> hello, i uploaded a new source package in launchpad (2 second today - the first is built) and i got no mail since 4 hours ago.... what gives?
[19:34] <nacc> nicman23: probably better in #ubuntu-devel; but what package?
[19:34] <nicman23> sway the tilling wm for wayland
[19:34] <nicman23> the libs were built (wlc - the other package)
[19:34] <aotaointbin> anddam: probably under /srv ?
[19:35] <nicman23> anyways heading to the dev channel
[19:35] <aotaointbin> depends what it's used for, really.
[19:35] <anddam> aotaointbin: but I'm not going to serve anything from it
[19:35] <nicman23> @aotaointbin mostly ftp / http / whatever other server files
[19:36] <ducasse> anddam: tbh i couldn't care less, i use descriptive mountpoints like /backups, /storage etc as that is easy to remember
[19:36] <aotaointbin> anddam: /srv is not for data that's being served. please see fhs for more information.
[19:36] <aotaointbin> nicman23: sorry, was responding to anddam
[19:36] <anddam> in fact I'm mounting a backup share
[19:36] <ducasse> anddam: /exports used to be used often
[19:36] <aotaointbin> /srv/backup seems reasonable.
[19:37] <aotaointbin> but /exports isn't in fhs.
[19:37] <ducasse> who cares?
[19:37] <nacc> ducasse: :)
[19:37] <anddam> aotaointbin: description for /src on wikipedia says exactly "Site-specific data served by this system"
[19:38] <anddam> ducasse: I understand the hier-police won't come after me
[19:38] <aotaointbin> indeed, and that's the verbiage from fhs also.
[19:38] <nacc> yes, this whole exercise for aotaointbin has seemed rather pedantic -- from not wanting a www-user (even if someone else's requirement) to strictly following fhs
[19:38] <anddam> ducasse: that was just out of curiosity, since I'm at it
[19:38] <aotaointbin> that being said, /srv is typically where fhs-minded admins put their nfs shares.
[19:38] <anddam> btw mounting nfs is a breeze
[19:38] <genii> anddam: According to FHS, shareable variable data should be under /var. So something like /var/nfsmountname
[19:38] <anddam> waaay better then setting up samba
[19:39] <ducasse> anddam: they've probably got better wars to fight :)
[19:39] <aotaointbin> and /var is fine too. fhs doesn't really define where nfs mounts should go explicitly.
[19:39] <anddam> I was advised the other day to use NFS over samba since I was going to use linux/macos clients only
[19:39] <anddam> in fact /var was what came to my mind
[19:39] <anddam> will do /var/backups
[19:39] <anddam> actually I setup duplicty with deja-dup to use ssh so the ubuntu client won't even mount that
[19:41] <gogeta> anddam, samba is acully quit good in nix machines its on windows it drages to a crawl
[19:41] <gogeta> quite
[19:41] <anddam> gogeta: but the config file is a PITA
[19:41] <aotaointbin> i use /mnt for my nfs shares personally :P
[19:41] <aotaointbin> networking is unreliable, so nfs shares are inherently temporary imho :P
[19:42] <scottjl> if your network is unreliable you have bigger problems to solve
[19:43] <gogeta> anddam, if your running ubuntu/mac clients samba should not need any configs
[19:43] <aotaointbin> my pci bus doesn't have backhoes cut through it nearly as often as networks do :P
[19:43] <arooni> xmeetrying to set up .xbindkeyrc ; but doesn't seem to be working :|..
[19:43] <gogeta> anddam, they should just see one another asuuming you have a share set
[19:43] <BluesKaj> nice not to need nfs at all :-)
[19:43] <anddam> gogeta: what's a share set?
[19:44] <gogeta> anddam, just setting a foldar shared to the network
[19:44] <Cyber_Akuma> I booted into a ubuntu livecd to format a USB drive just in case it had Windows malware on it. When I clicked format the dialog box went away, and I can see the light on my usb drive blinking, but there doesn't seem to be any kind of progress window anywhere. How can I check on it's progress?
[19:44] <anddam> gogeta: no, I read it wrong
[19:45] <anddam> gogeta: you meant "a samba share already set up"
[19:45] <anddam> gogeta: I read "set" as noun
[19:45] <akik> Cyber_Akuma: for ext4 there's a kernel process called ext4lazyinit which you can see with iotop
[19:45] <anddam> that's what I don't like about samba, I use it seldom and I have to delve into the config file and docs to figure what's what, the options are not intuitive IMHO
[19:46] <Cyber_Akuma> akik: I am formatting it in fat
[19:46] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma, you can use gparted for a fancy gui
[19:46] <akik> Cyber_Akuma: well that should happen as soon as the command exits
[19:48] <Cyber_Akuma> akik: How can I tell how far it is or when it finishes though?
[19:49] <ragecraze> guys i cant boot my flash drive in linux ubuntu, what to do?
[19:49] <ragecraze> i made the boot options to boot from usb but it boots right to the OS
[19:49] <ragecraze> please i need help
[19:49] <akik> Cyber_Akuma: can you mount it?