[04:36] <nul> yeah, service network-manager is up
[04:36] <rww> Daemonik: no
[04:36] <bonjoyee> nul: check under /etc/NetworkManager/ ...right click the nm-applet and click edit connections..
[04:37] <nul> k
[04:37] <KB1JWQ> !uptime
[04:37] <synical> WindowsVista Uptime: 18wks 12hrs 39mins 59secs Best: 18wks 12hrs 39mins 59secs
[04:37] <mopo> nobody? :O
[04:37] <bazhang> synical, disable that
[04:37] <nul> bonjoyee: oh I only have ssh right now to configure it anywa
[04:37] <nul> anyway*
[04:37] <dfcnvt> Whatis uptime
[04:37] <dfcnvt> !whatis uptime
[04:37] <dfcnvt> !man uptime
[04:37] <bazhang> dfcnvt, try it in your terminal
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> dfcnvt: its the amount of uptime a system has snce last reboot
[04:38] <KB1JWQ> dfcnvt: Google is your friend.  die.net has all of the man pages.
[04:38] <nul> bonjoyee: in nm-system-settings.conf, [ifupdown] is managed=false.. I assume it's not using it then
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> dfcnvt: people think its clever to spam channels with useless stuff like that but the fact is, nobody cares
[04:38] <bonjoyee> nul: no..thats for ifaces not managed by network-manager..
[04:39] <nul> k
[04:39] <imon> anyone know about ircd-hybrid?
[04:40] <bazhang> imon, try in their channel?
[04:40] <bonjoyee> nul: else if you want to just change the DNS for trial, edit /etc/resolv.conf . NM will reset it on the next startup
[04:40] <imon> no... did not think of it lol, thx for point out the overlooked obvious  :)
[04:41] <nul> bonjoyee: k
[04:41] <nul> bonjoyee: can you put 2 nameservers in resolv.conf?
[04:41] <bonjoyee> nul: as many as you want..but the first one is tried first..
[04:41] <nul> k
[04:43] <bonjoyee> nul: if you want to try different DNS without changing and files...use "dig yahoo.com @newdnsserver"
[04:43] <nul> k
[04:43] <bonjoyee> nul: that will be the best way to see the response time for various dns providers...
[04:44] <nul> k
[04:44] <hilarie> I am trying to update a program called the-powder-toy what would I type into terminal?
[04:45] <voglster> apt-get upgrade
[04:45] <hilarie> sudo apt-get upgrade the-powder-toy?
[04:45] <bazhang> hilarie, sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:45] <bazhang> hilarie, no
[04:45] <bazhang> hilarie, was this from the repos or some 3rd party
[04:45] <Taffy> sudo apt-get program/name update
[04:46] <hilarie> I added a 3rd party repository
[04:46] <Nertil> my ipv6 on ubuntu is unstable
[04:46] <bazhang> hilarie, then as I just suggested
[04:46] <virtus> Are you people even alive?
[04:46] <virtus> =/
[04:46] <bazhang> hilarie, when a new version is available their repos will provide it
[04:46] <Virtus> !ping
[04:46] <bazhang> Virtus, ubuntu support question?
[04:46] <hilarie> okay, thank you
[04:46] <Virtus> bazhang: I've asked it four times.
[04:47] <Virtus> Is there some sort of software, where I can plug in my USB mic, and use my computer as a virtual amplifier to my speakers.
[04:48] <Taffy> sound recorder
[04:49] <RedXIII> Hey, I recently installed ubuntu 10.10, but when I turn on my computer it doesn't give me the grub bootloader
[04:49] <RedXIII> It just boots right into windowws
[04:50] <RedXIII> How can I reload grub bootloader?
[04:50] <bazhang> RedXIII, hold shift at boot
[04:51] <RedXIII> o_O.
[04:51] <bazhang> RedXIII, change the timeout
[04:52] <bazhang> !grub2 | RedXIII please have a read
[04:53] <heslam> hey guys. what happens if you accidentally copy a file into a directory like
[04:53] <heslam> cp foo.dat /etc/bar
[04:53] <heslam> what happens to the /etc/bar directory?
[04:54] <rww> heslam: the same thing as if you did cp foo.dat /etc/bar/foo.dat
[04:54] <_jesse_> heslam: it'll copy it into the directory
[04:54] <RedXIII> bazhang: Shift doesn't do anything o-o
[04:54] <heslam> rww & _jesse_: thank god. i accidentally pressed enter on a command too early and was worried i had flattened some important system files :)
[04:54] <bazhang> RedXIII, then reinstall grub if sudo update-grub does not pan out? did you read the wiki linked to you yet?
[04:55] <RedXIII> I just saw it
[04:55] <_jesse_> heslam: ;)
[04:55] <RedXIII> so its open now
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> heslam: not much, if the file exists and you copy over it, it could cause issues. Writing to folders outside $HOME will require sudo
[04:55] <RedXIII> But I think I set something wrong in the installer.
[04:56] <bubbles|> hi
[04:56] <heslam> ActionParsnip: i was using sudo, yeah - thankfully i don't think it overwrote anything though
[04:56] <dm_> Привет
[04:57] <bubbles|> i'm having troubles to create and properly install an ssh-keypair .. could someone walk me through it?
[04:57] <bazhang> !ru | dm_
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> heslam: you can check with:  dpkg -S filename
[04:58] <heslam> ActionParsnip: it says file not found, so i must've done something wrong anyway :P i can't even get my commands wrong properly
[04:58] <ocelot> bubbles|  can you be more specific about your problem?
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> heslam: if it wasnt found then its not part of a package :D, all is well
[04:59] <bubbles|> ocelot i installed the public key on the remote system, but it still prompts me for a password
[04:59] <ocelot> the public RSA key, bubbles| ?
[04:59] <bubbles|> http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/ssh/ <- this is what id did - except that local and remote system are the same machine
[04:59] <bubbles|> id_rsa.pub
[04:59] <heslam> ActionParsnip: excellent, thanks ;)
[05:00] <heslam> (that was meant to be a smiley, not a wink - a wink seems a bit weird)
[05:02] <Virtus> Taffy: I'm talking Real-Time
[05:02] <red2kic> !noroot | Guest5942
[05:02] <Virtus> Not recorded, then played later.
[05:02] <Virtus> =/
[05:02] <ocelot> bubbles| you need to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config if you want to disable password authentication. take a look here: http://goo.gl/eJgjV
[05:02] <ocelot> and you might want to try man sshd_config
[05:03] <bubbles|> ok
[05:03] <Virtus> No offence.  He couldn't use sudo anymore because he changed a file, forgetting to re-add himself to sudoers.
[05:04] <bubbles|> ah, trouble seems to have been that id_pub wasn't int the local user's .ssh folder
[05:04] <Virtus> You guys told him a re-install was the only way to fix that -- But, if you had a root password set.. Then, that'd be solved easy.
[05:06] <heslam> i know how to list PCI devices, but is there any way of figuring out which drivers are driving which devices?
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> Virtus: having it disabled is better than setting a password
[05:06] <ocelot> Guest5942 if you boot into the recovery mode from grub you will be in a root shell
[05:07] <kuttans> hi everybody, having problem with virtualbox installation, anyone to help me pls?
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> Virtus: if you mess with visudo (which would cause that) you can boot to root recovery mode and undo the change
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> kuttans: details please
[05:08] <mopo> anyone want to help me with this issue?? http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10426373
[05:08] <kuttans> i upgraded to the newer kernel and i have kernel headers installed for the latest kernal im running, but when i do /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup its saying that the kernal headers in /usr/src/linux is not matching the running kernal
[05:09] <hot_wheelz> Hi i have a dvb driver and would like to see if it can be included who can i talk to to about this?...Thx
[05:09] <bardyr> kuttans, reboot
[05:09] <kuttans> yeah i did that
[05:10] <LethalLemming> I'm looking for help submitting a bug report (or advice) relating to the unity interface
[05:10] <kuttans> there are two places the log files are created , one in the /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox/make.log
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> kuttans: if you run:  uname -r   are you running the new kernel?
[05:10] <sacarlson> arcimboldo_: I saw your openvpn return,  I didn't see at the bottom that I would expect to see and I saw some errors that I'm not sure of
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> hot_wheelz: I suggest you log a bug with your driver
[05:12] <hot_wheelz> ActionParsnip a bug why?
[05:12] <arcimboldo_> sacarlson: ok, thanks. I have also mailed that file to the OpenVPN support.
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> hot_wheelz: well there is an issue, no driver. but you have a fix, the driver
[05:12] <arcimboldo_> Will see whether someone might have an idea
[05:12] <sacarlson> arcimboldo_: cool,  I looked at that site too but didn't see any free trial
[05:13] <sacarlson> arcimboldo_: oh I thought you would send it to strongvpn
[05:13] <arcimboldo_> sacarlson: No free trial, but money back within seven days after registration.
[05:13] <kuttans> there in make.log it says that linux/autoconf.h missing but the error was due to the problem which is stated in /var/log/virutalbox-install.log
[05:13] <kuttans> yeah
[05:13] <arcimboldo_> sacarlson: oops sorry ...
[05:13] <kuttans> im running the new kernel 2.6.38-1-generic-pae and i have the header package in the /usr/src/ directory
[05:13] <kuttans> Makefile:178: *** Error: /usr/src/linux (version 2.6.38-rc2) does not match the current kernel (version 2.6.38-1-generic-pae).  Stop. ==this is the error in the /var/log/vbox-install.log
[05:13] <FloodBot1> kuttans: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:13] <arcimboldo_> sacarlson: yes, to StrongVPN support.
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> kuttans: that kernel isnt supported here
[05:13] <sacarlson> arcimboldo_: ok
[05:13] <digirak> ping
[05:14] <digirak> can someone help me here
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> digirak: ask away
[05:14] <bazhang> digirak, with what
[05:14] <hendra> ada yang tau gimana setting pad di ubuntu
[05:14] <digirak> i am getting a cmake error
[05:14] <AbhijiT> while i was editing the open office presentation electricity gone. when i restarted pc now that .odp file gives error general error. general input/output error. is this file fully gone and corrupted? or is there still any way i can recover it?
[05:14] <AbhijiT> hgelp
[05:14] <bazhang> hendra, english please
[05:14] <kuttans> oh ok..but i guess its not the problem of kernel version, its the problem of vbox not able to identify the kernel header in that directory
[05:14] <digirak> ActionParsnip: i need some help with how the gcc lnk works
[05:14] <bazhang> kuttans, #vbox
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> kuttans: if you boot to the maverick kernel, is it ok
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image maverick
[05:15] <arcimboldo_> sacarlson: in any case, I appreciate your help so far!
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> kuttans: if you use <IP_ADDRESS>  is it ok?
[05:15] <kuttans> yeah it was ok just before the kernel im using now,
[05:16] <kuttans> even for 38.1 it was ok
[05:16] <digirak> my local gcc
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> kuttans: then your issue is with an unofficial kernel which we cannot possibly support
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> kuttans: if you use 3rd party kernels your support isnt here
[05:16] <digirak> bazhang: hey can u help me with a gcc issue
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> kuttans: i suggest you ask in #vbox
[05:16] <kuttans> okie actionparsnip
[05:16] <bazhang> digirak, with what exactly please explain
[05:17] <kuttans> yeah i will do that. bcoz i solved the same kinda issue before but now i just forget how i did it
[05:17] <kuttans> it was all about changing some symlinks and fool the vbox installer
[05:17] <kuttans> anyways i wil check with vbox irc
[05:17] <digirak> bazhang: ok ... my cmakekde compiler tells me that the gcc link is broken
[05:17] <digirak> but actually when i go an look it up
[05:18] <bazhang> digirak, you are compiling kde4?
[05:18] <digirak> bazhang: it seems that that gcc doesnt exist but is linking to gcc-4.4
[05:18] <digirak> bazhang: no but i am build the kde build environment
[05:18] <bazhang> digirak, explain exactly what you are trying to achieve please
[05:18] <AbhijiT> where is open office user profile is stored?
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> AbhijiT: ~/.openoffice
[05:19] <digirak> bazhang: i am trying to build dependencies for kde
[05:19] <AbhijiT> ActionParsnip, i delted that folder but my issue is not solved
[05:19] <bazhang> digirak, why? they are in the repos, handled by the package manager
[05:20] <red2kic> AbhijiT: ~/.config/.open~1 (I'm lazy)
[05:20] <digirak> bazhang: no thats not how i want to do it, because i want to make sure i have all the packages where i want them. so that i dont get into problems when actually using the build environment
[05:20] <AbhijiT> red2kic, in ./config there is no folder for open office
[05:20] <bazhang> digirak, you could try #kde I suppose
[05:21] <digirak> bazhang: i thought this seems more like an ubuntu issue
[05:21] <discojesus_> Evening all.  I have a mysterious sound problem where all of my output sounds like it's being filtered, any troubleshooting ideas?
[05:21] <bazhang> digirak, ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde4, both use the package manager to handle dependencies
[05:21] <red2kic> AbhijiT: Try "sudo updatedb && locate openoffice | grep $HOME"
[05:22] <AbhijiT> red2kic, ok
[05:23] <digirak> bazhang: the error this gives is that of a broken compiler
[05:23] <digirak> which is not correct
[05:23] <p009> i am on a live cd tring to mount sda2 does anybody know how to do this here is the output when i run "sudo fdisk -l" http://pastie.org/1527318
[05:23] <Mindkontrol> Sup all
[05:23] <bazhang> digirak, its not the supported method of installing dependencies. you can ask in #kde
[05:24] <Mindkontrol> !hi
[05:24] <digirak> alright thanks bazhang
[05:24] <mopo> can anyone hear me?
[05:25] <em0ral> k
[05:25] <bazhang> mopo, yes
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> mopo: huh?
[05:25] <mopo> hmm my question must be too hard haha
[05:25] <mopo> asked a q a few times
[05:25] <Mindkontrol> hi
[05:25] <mopo> hi! :)
[05:25] <RedXIII> Can I use vmware to virtualize my win7 partition from within ubuntu?
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> mopo: wassup? was rebooting some servers
[05:26] <Mindkontrol> sup dzup1
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> RedXIII: i'd ask in #vmware
[05:26] <kuttans> ActionParsnip : can you tell me about this error in a makefile in /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/.0.2/build/make.log says this fatal error: linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory
[05:26] <Taffy> how come the color is gone from the directories and the prompt is just a $
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> kuttans: not sure, i dont use virtualbox
[05:26] <mopo> i put the issue into a forum thread -> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10426373
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> Taffy: your ~/.bashrc sounds damaged, copy the one from /root and chown it to your user
[05:27] <p009> ActionParsnip, i am on a live cd tring to mount sda2 does anybody know how to do this here is the output when i run "sudo fdisk -l" http://pastie.org/1527318
[05:27] <iShock> Okay, so I know this is the wrong channel by far, but honestly .. You're the biggest geeks I know, and no one else has been able to help me.
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> iShock: if your issue is ubuntu based then ask away
[05:28] <iShock> ActionParsnip: It's not, but I need geek help, and I can't think of a place with smarter geeks. :|
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> iShock: then its offtopic here, try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:28] <iShock> ##networking is dead :<
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> mopo: is the device usb based?
[05:28] <mopo> its a pci device
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> mopo: then run:  lspci    you will see the chip used and you can copy the output and use it to find guides
[05:30] <rww> #ubuntu-offtopic isn't a support channel :<
[05:30] <p009> i am on a live cd tring to mount /dev/sda2 does anybody know how to do this here is the output when i run "sudo fdisk -l" http://pastie.org/1527318
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> rww: its a good place to ask geeky questions which aren't ubuntu based though
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> p009: does it not show in the places menu?
[05:31] <rww> not if you want accurate answers
[05:31] <mopo> Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
[05:31] <gpc> ActionParsnip: we have been trying to move the offtopicness to less support type talk in there.
[05:31] <mopo> but i followed the directions in the link i pasted
[05:31] <mopo> still not working
[05:32] <p009> ActionParsnip, it does show  in the places menu but wont munt i get an error
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> p009: whats the error?
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> gpc: i see, understood
[05:33] <gpc> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> mopo: ok then that is what you need to search for, the make and model is fairly worthless
[05:34] <mopo> hmm ok
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> mopo: i suggest you add that to your forum post too ;)
[05:34] <DiSTORT3D> http://pastebin.com/9bHbtJxT
[05:35] <p009> ActionParsnip, when i click on it after 30min or so it says it was not able to mount
[05:35] <miyamoto> i am using ubuntu n i have problem in wireless my wireless chipset is rtl8187l
[05:36] <miyamoto> i can connect to ap but i cant browse
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> p009: ok then mount it at command line, make a folder in /media and mount the partition there, you should get more detailed output
[05:36] <bazhang> !wifi | miyamoto please have a read
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> miyamoto: when you are connected, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:36] <miyamoto> searching in google and forums i have doubt that there is driver conflict.
[05:36] <RedXIII> What's the difference between using virtualbox and vmware?
[05:37] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: just a min
[05:37] <heslam> hey guys. i'm trying to add a script to start when a user logs in - not when the machine boots up. which is /etc/rc.local good for, again? and if that's not the one i want, what is?
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> RedXIII: manufacturers for one, vmware doesn't have an open source version
[05:37] <venus> any updates on 11.04?
[05:37] <venus> when is stable ;aunching?
[05:37] <xangua> !natty  | venus
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> heslam: rc.local will run as root before the login screen shows
[05:37] <venus> i mean launching
[05:37] <rww> !schedule-#ubuntu+1 | venus
[05:37] <Taffy> RedXIII i think about $200.00
[05:37] <bazhang> venus, #ubuntu+1 please
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> venus: natty is discussed in #ubuntu+1
[05:37] <p009> ActionParsnip, do u know the command for mounting?
[05:37] <venus> Yeah.. Natty.. when stable is out?
[05:38] <gpc> venus: April
[05:38] <venus> Ok thanks
[05:38] <rww> 11.04. year dot month. 04. april.
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> p009: sudo mount /dev/partuition /mount/point
[05:38] <heslam> ActionParsnip: so that's not the one i want, then... i'm trying to get synergy (a screen sharing-esque tool) to run but i don't think having it before the login is appropriate
[05:39] <venus> i am not sure whats wrong with my ubuntu 10.10 .. theirs  some problem with my bootloader.
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> heslam: then add it in the startup apps in the applications -> preferences (or admin, not sure0
[05:39] <venus> which is the best opensouce partition manager?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> venus: there is no single best app for a situation
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> venus: well, ANY situation
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> venus: it's like asking "what is the best colour?"
[05:40] <heslam> ActionParsnip: ah, okay, thanks. i was hoping for a command line way but i'll hunt for the program
[05:40] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, "what is the best colour" awesome
[05:40] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: ping sends Request to <IP_ADDRESS> but no reply
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: makes it easier to understand for folk
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> miyamoto: ok can you ping the routers internal IP?
[05:41] <Loki^> i recently lost my tty1-6 terminals and my powersaving governor doesnt work anymore (sysfsutils), is it possible that this has something to do with adding a fix for my mouse to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/file ??
[05:41] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: same prob
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> venus: in short, try a few and use what you like. you are using an OS which emphasises choice and freedom, yet you are asking strangers what you should use...smacks of Microsoft don't you think
[05:42] <p009> ActionParsnip, the mount is taking a while, is it suppoed to do that?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> p009: is this an NTFS partition you are mounting?
[05:43] <Snakkah> I can't delete a folder. It keeps giving an "input/output error" for the contents of the folder, even though nothing is displayed in there.
[05:43] <Snakkah> How do I get rid of it?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> miyamoto: is the OS fully updated?
[05:43] <p009> ActionParsnip, sorry i am not sure
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> Snakkah: is the pwd in the folder or a subfolder?
[05:43] <pattman> how do i install ubuntu server on ubuntu 10.10
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> p009: sudo parted -l   will tell you
[05:44] <miyamoto> yes
[05:44] <Snakkah> ActionParsnip, pwd?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> pattman: you can tell the OS to boot to text only mode and you will have the same difference
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> Snakkah: present working directory
[05:44] <j0sh> i installed linux-image via apt-get but im not sure where it went
[05:44] <j0sh> like, where'd it get installed into
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> Snakkah: if you run:   pwd   it will tell you the path you are currently standing in
[05:44] <Snakkah> It's a subfolder on my external hard drive.
[05:45] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: yes. actually i used to use realtek rtl8185 chipset. and now i changed to rtl8187. does this arise driver conflict?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> Snakkah: ok is the partition healthy? If it is NTFS was it gracefully unmounted when it was last removed from a system
[05:45] <mopo> hmm i have no /dev/video0
[05:45] <mopo> ActionParsnip:
[05:45] <venus> how is GPARTED?
[05:45] <p009> ActionParsnip, sudo parted -l  http://pastie.org/1527357
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> miyamoto: you may want to blacklist the driver you don't want to use
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> venus: its fine
[05:45] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: also. as soon as i connect, i can browse for a moment. just about a minute or so. after that i cant.
[05:46] <Snakkah> ActionParsnip, the partition is fine. I'm thinking when transferring my files it may have gotten moved around though.
[05:46] <pattman> what do i do to install ubuntu server on ubuntu 10.10 without iso
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> p009: ok, which partition are you mounting?
[05:46] <Snakkah> I just don't want to transfer them all again. I'd like to just delete this one folder because that's the problem folder.
[05:46] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: oh... before it was wlan0 now its wlan1. so if i blacklist wlan0 it may work.
[05:46] <miyamoto> ?
[05:46] <venus> ActionParsnip: thanks
[05:46] <p009> ActionParsnip, the second partition
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> miyamoto: no, blacklist the realtek driver you don't want
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> p009: ok I suggest you fsck it to make sure it's healthy
[05:47] <miketomdool> pattman there might be a package ubuntu-server i think
[05:48] <p009> ActionParsnip, what is the command for fsck?
[05:48] <pattman> can i install ubuntu sever without the iso
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> p009:http://linux.die.net/man/8/fsck
[05:49] <Loki^> i recently lost my tty1-6 terminals and my powersaving governor doesnt work anymore (sysfsutils), is it possible that this has something to do with adding a fix for my mouse to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/file ?? cant find good solutions in google either except configuring a framebuffer
[05:49] <bazhang> pattman, do you have a net connection?
[05:49] <heslam> hate to be so annoyingly persistant, but does anyone know the terminal way of setting start up applications on login? something that's desktop agnostic
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> pattman: if you boot with the boot option:   text   the x server will not run and you will have the server OS in essence
[05:49] <j0sh> actually where can i get a version of the kernel image on my system with debug symbols
[05:49] <bazhang> !lamp | pattman have a read please
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> heslam: you can create a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart   and it will run in any DE
[05:50] <pattman> can i use the terminal to install ubuntu server
[05:50] <heslam> ActionParnsip: thanks, that sounds perfect :)
[05:51] <ExplodingPiglets> !ops
[05:51] <rww> ExplodingPiglets: yes?
[05:51] <bazhang> ExplodingPiglets, what?
[05:51] <ExplodingPiglets> I am having trouble with my sound card
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> hehe
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> wow!
[05:51] <dhruvasagar> Hi guys, I am trying to kill a process it shows as <defunct> in the ps -ef, but it is not getting killed, what do I do ?
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> pattman: what do you understand to be the difference between the desktop and server Ubuntu?
[05:52] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: is the driver only rtl8180 or rtl8180 - [phy0] ?
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> miyamoto: whichever you do not want to load, blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> miyamoto: the syntax is:   blacklist modulename
[05:53] <slie> ping
[05:53] <dhruvasagar> anybody ??
[05:53] <slie> pong
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: you need to kill the parent process
[05:53] <miketomdool> pattman: what part of ubuntu server do you want?
[05:53] <thorbj0rn> dhruvasagar: look for it's PPID
[05:53] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: parent id is 1...that's the init process
[05:53] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: ok. thanks, i will try.
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: yikes
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: sounds like a reboot is needed then, not sure any other way. Maybe others can contribute
[05:54] <thorbj0rn> dhruvasagar: if it isn't using resources, you can likely ignore it until next reboot
[05:54] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: ok
[05:54] <dhruvasagar> thorbj0rn: hmm
[05:54] <dhruvasagar> thorbj0rn: but I needed to restart that process...
[05:55] <thorbj0rn> dhruvasagar: killall didn't help you?
[05:55] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: sorry. it didnt work. :(
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> miyamoto: you'll need to reboot to tes
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> *test
[05:55] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: yes i rebooted
[05:56] <pattman> im just trying to install ubuntu server
[05:56] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: i can open the google homepage as soon as i connect but cant browse anything after that.
[05:56] <dhruvasagar> thorbj0rn: no, neither did sudo kill -9
[05:56] <thorbj0rn> pattman: the only difference between ubuntu server and ubuntu with LAMP is that the server has no gui
[05:57] <thorbj0rn> pattman: install LAMP, login with term, ???, profit.
[05:57] <slie> hello
[05:57] <pattman> why
[05:58] <student> quit
[05:58] <rww> why what
[05:58] <student> who wre you
[05:58] <miketomdool> pattman: ubuntu server is a thing that installs many packages.... wich packages do you need?
[05:58] <student> werwr
[05:59] <pattman> all packages
[06:00] <john___> hi,
[06:00] <john___> I need some help
[06:00] <john___> It's about conky
[06:00] <Ciphermagi> Q: After installing, when I try to boot, I get an NVIDIA Boot Agent, which runs a mac address line, and then fails to boot. Is this a failure in Grub2?
[06:00] <john___> Does anyone uses ConkyWizard?
[06:01] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076 john___ here is very good begiiners guide
[06:01] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: has there been reports about such issues? changing wifi card and getting problems?
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> miyamoto: ok try:  gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf   delete ALL text and add this:  nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>     save the new file and close gedit and all browsers. Then reopen your browser and try the web, it it ok?
[06:01] <miketomdool> well what are you trying to accomplish with ubuntu server?
[06:02] <john___> I have read a lot of guides but with no answer..
[06:02] <slie> Any one here program any websites?
[06:02] <bazhang> john___, please have a look at that one
[06:02] <KB1JWQ> slie: What's your real question?
[06:02] <john___> I want to use conky forecast using conkywizard
[06:02] <bazhang> slie, care to ask a clear question?
[06:03] <john___> Has anyone done this ?
[06:03] <bazhang> john___, did you read the guide I linked you yet?
[06:03] <slie> KB1JWQ: I am having a hard time sifting through all of the "use what ever you feel like to program your website"
[06:03] <john___> This is a guide for conky, not conkywizard!
[06:04] <KB1JWQ> slie: It really comes down to personal taste.
[06:04] <slie> I want the full functionality of a full blown power of a language.
[06:04] <bazhang> john___, try #conky then perhaps
[06:04] <thorbj0rn> slie: nano or bust.
[06:04] <miketomdool> pattman: do you know what a server is?
[06:04] <john___> With conky I can do it
[06:04] <slie> kb1jwq: yeah that is my problem that is what every one says
[06:04] <bazhang> john___, no idea what you want with conkywizard
[06:04] <slie> thorbj0rn: nano or bust?
[06:04] <bazhang> !html | slie
[06:04] <john___> The problem is that I want to use it on conkywizard
[06:05] <john___> and I cannot find anyway to set it up
[06:05] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: doesnt work.
[06:05] <bazhang> john___, conkywizard is an app from the repos?
[06:05] <john___> not
[06:05] <slie> ubottu: yeah i know html but i need that to access something more powerful like python
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> miyamoto: ok, well that file is generated so if you disable wireless then re-enable it you will put the file back :)
[06:05] <slie> thorbj0rn: I prerfer VIM :)
[06:06] <g_0_0> slie, python.org
[06:06] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: so.. what should i do?
[06:06] <john___> Has anyone used ConkyWizard?
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> miyamoto: not sure, maybe others can contribute
[06:07] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: ok..
[06:07] <bazhang> john___, that is a google code app
[06:07] <slie> g_0_0: thanks got that would you reccomend learning one of those apis? like mod_python? or does java script have that power
[06:07] <john___> Ok,
[06:07] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: btw i have same problem in my laptop too. i bought two usb dongles. and in my laptop it uses bcm4313 chipset. i disabled the driver in the laptop. same problem. :(
[06:08] <g_0_0> slie, I'm not sure I follow you
[06:08] <john___> I will use simple conky configuration
[06:08] <bazhang> john___, check their support forums. no idea why you'd need it as the conky guide I gave you can do all that
[06:08] <john___> thanks anyway
[06:08] <miketomdool> linux has poor wifi support for many older cards
[06:09] <Ciphermagi> Is there a better channel specifically for assistance with installs? I'm not sure my bootloader is actually loading up.
[06:09] <g_0_0> slie, I thought you wanted to learn python
[06:09] <slie> g_0_0: mod_python is a module that integrates with apache, and will allow me to write my page with python
[06:09] <g_0_0> slie, http://learnpythonthehardway.org/static/LearnPythonTheHardWay.pdf
[06:09] <bazhang> Ciphermagi, please describe the issue with clarity
[06:09] <AbhijiT> miketomdool, nope. its not linux fault. its vendor fault they dont upgrade themselve to open standards
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> miyamoto: those cheap broadcoms are super easy to get working, just hook up a wired link and run the hardware driver app
[06:09] <g_0_0> slie, yeah you write python scripts
[06:10] <jschall> I have a USB bluetooth adapter that is 2.0+EDR (0e5e:6622 Conwise Technology Co., Ltd. CW6622). I can plug it into my kubuntu desktop and it immediately detects it and works, however, when I connect a2dp headphones to it, the audio stutters (on for one second, off for one second, on for a second, etc.) Are there any tweaks i can make to make it work? The headphones work fine on my kubuntu netbook with built-in bluetooth
[06:10] <magnums> #join documentfoundation
[06:10] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: i mean, i used broadcom. and now i am throwing it and replacing with rtl8187 dongle. so got same problem here too.
[06:10] <miyamoto> ActionParsnip: anyway thank you very much for trying to help me
[06:10] <slie> yeah i'm just trying to see if i should do that or not.
[06:10] <miketomdool> Abhijit: true :)
[06:10] <Ciphermagi> On boot, after 'Verifying DMI Pool Data .............' an NVIDIA boot loader runs, and can't find a bootable partition.
[06:11] <AbhijiT> brb
[06:11] <Ciphermagi> I tried putting an old boot disk for windows in, and rebooting, and the disk can't be read (obviously), but it sends me to a grub rescue> prompt.
[06:11] <slie> g_0_0: yeah i'm just trying to see if i should go down that road or if there is something better. I think that is really why i'm questioning myself
[06:12] <g_0_0> slie, http://docs.python.org/howto/webservers.html
[06:12] <g_0_0> slie, do you mean using python or php etc ?
[06:13] <slie> g_0_0: haha thanks yeah i read that server page and all of the CGI possibilities
[06:14] <slie> g_0_0: yeah do you reccomend a certine mixture of languages like, javascrips with html or php. if i go with python will i need php jscript or anything like that
[06:14] <Ciphermagi> I'm actually looking at the grub manual, and it suggests breaking into the menu for the early stage loader, but I don't know how to do that.
[06:15] <miketomdool> Ciphermagi: what BIOS does your computer have? on one of my laptops i kept getting grub rescue> cause i had a crappy bios
[06:16] <riaku> umm any chance i could get some help?
[06:16] <slie> g_0_0: thanks for that pdf i will have fun with that thing
[06:16] <Ciphermagi> miketomdool: I'm not sure, but I can reboot to read the text on the BIOS if you'll give me a minute.
[06:17] <bazhang> riaku, with?
[06:17] <riaku> I sort of have a problem, but i doubt it has anything to do with ubuntu, it seems something to do with a local part of my network which has gone haywire
[06:17] <Ciphermagi> "Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG"
[06:18] <Ciphermagi> "12/30/2008-NV-MCP61-6A61KG0AC-00"
[06:18] <riaku> the ip adress is <IP_ADDRESS> and i think the <IP_ADDRESS> means it is a local object
[06:19] <bonjoyee> riaku: its a private ip...whats the issue?
[06:19] <DiSTORT3D> http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2742/5ghz.png
[06:19] <riaku> the issue is a high ping sorry xD
[06:19] <riaku> over 100ms
[06:20] <riaku> on average that is
[06:20] <Ciphermagi> miketomdool: I have an exact shot of what's going on now, that I can type out to you, if you'd like.
[06:21] <bonjoyee> riaku: what is the network topology? i.e how are the various machines in the local network connected?
[06:22] <bruce_> hi
[06:22] <riaku> cable to modem, modem to router, router wirelessly to 3 PCs, and 2 wired lines to PCs
[06:22] <bots> my phone has some weird name when its mounted in ubuntu how can i change it?
[06:22] <bots> it has some weird characters
[06:22] <venus> i want to use Apache in Ubuntu.. guys what i need?
[06:23] <bazhang> !lamp > venus
[06:23] <DiSTORT3D> xampp
[06:23] <bazhang> DiSTORT3D, thats not supported here use lamp
[06:24] <DiSTORT3D> sorry :(
[06:25] <bonjoyee> riaku: so this ping issue is for local addresses only? or for all ips?
[06:25] <blahsphemer> I tried uploading an  HD(1080p) video to youtube. While it looks awesome on VLC it looks like crap(Pixellation at 1080p, Lag in the video...). Should I convert the video to some other format and upload it
[06:25] <foormea> hi, i'm back on ubuntu after a while of using gentoo. i notice that some services don't show up under sysv-rc-conf and should be instead modified with the command service. any wiki/doc on that or any tips? any tool like sysv-rc-conf to easily and conveniently manage them?
[06:25] <riaku> bonjoyee: local I believe, but ill send you the traceroute if you wish
[06:25] <venus> lamp is fine?
[06:25] <bazhang> !upstart | foormea
[06:25] <bazhang> venus, yes
[06:25] <foormea> oh thanks bazhang
[06:26] <bruce_> hi venus
[06:26] <bonjoyee> riaku: try with some wan ips ..
[06:26] <venus> bazhang:  thanks
[06:26] <venus> ubottu: thanks
[06:26] <bruce_> ok
[06:26] <bruce_> can u tell me how to use skype on ubuntu?
[06:27] <AbhijiT> !skype | bruce_
[06:27] <bruce_> how about yahoo messenger
[06:27] <bazhang> bruce_, tried pidgin?
[06:27] <twitch> bruce_: empathy can do yahoo accounts and msn etc etc
[06:27] <p009> ActionParsnip,  when i run sudo file -sL /dev/sda2 i got http://pastie.org/1527405 do u think its possible to recover the drive?
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> bruce_: install it from the partner repo
[06:28] <riaku> bonjoyee: I PMed you
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> p009: ok then websearch for the journal recovery bit, see how its fixed
[06:28] <bonjoyee> riaku: yep..got it
[06:29] <AbhijiT> hey guys
[06:29] <AbhijiT> i try to install libre office from their ppa and now it is first removeing open office. is that normal?
[06:29] <AbhijiT> cant i have both at same time?
[06:30] <abhinav_singh1> is any one of you using 10.10..? is there any issue in 10.10 as i want to upgrade to 10.10 from 10.04
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> abhinav_singh1: yes you can only have one or the other
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | abhinav_singh1
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> abhinav_singh1: use the server method (it's easier imho)
[06:31] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, I think you meant AbhijiT
[06:32] <AbhijiT> ActionParsnip, ??
[06:32] <AbhijiT> ActionParsnip, may i know why the reason? why we only have either LO or OO?
[06:32] <Daemonik> Does Ubuntu Netbook Edition have LPIA (Low Power Intel Architecture) optimizations?
[06:32] <abhinav_singh1> i know how to upgrade ...but i wanna ensure that 10.10 has no or less issues ..more ever 10.04 is long term support while 10.10 is not ActionParsnip
[06:33] <AbhijiT> at a time that is.
[06:33] <gunndawg> abhinav_singh1, I have had no issues with 10.10 after about 2 weeks of using it
[06:33] <vish> AbhijiT: why do you want both at the same time?
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> AbhijiT: no idea, I'd ask the devs
[06:33] <abhinav_singh1> kool gunndawg
[06:33] <asep> hee
[06:34] <AbhijiT> vish, i dont want to looste stability of OO as I am in lucid. i want to test LO
[06:34] <AbhijiT> ActionParsnip, ok
[06:34] <vish> ah!
[06:34] <AbhijiT> vish, ??
[06:35] <vish> AbhijiT: not very sure either, i guess package was uploaded to replace rather than to co-exist , like Firefox and Minefeild
[06:35] <twitch> abhinav_singh1: i've been using 10.10 as my main desktop for a couple of months .. love it
[06:36] <AbhijiT> vish, yeah. but i mean the reason is political or technical?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> abhinav_singh1: you'll get different issues, more issues or fewer issues. There's no real guaruntee
[06:36] <vish> AbhijiT: not sure what you mean by "political" , but it might have just been that no one saw the necessity for co-existing
[06:36] <AbhijiT> Abhinav1, and abhinav_singh1 you both are same?
[06:37] <AbhijiT> vish, okay
[06:37] <vish> AbhijiT: you can just remove the ppa and downgrade back to OOo , if you have issues..
[06:37] <AbhijiT> vish, yah now installing LO it first removed my OO. let see hows this LO!!! :)
[06:38] <abhinav_singh1> no
[06:38] <AbhijiT> my OO - means my Open Office!!!! :P :D (what you where thinking? :P )
[06:38] <AbhijiT> abhinav_singh1, ok
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> abhinav_singh1: do you use all the components of the office suite?
[06:40] <abhinav_singh1> not really..i use my system for programming purposes ActionParsnip
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> abhinav_singh1: then you can remove it and save 300Mb of space :D
[06:40] <Guest74074> so what do you need office for then
[06:41] <abhinav_singh1> yup ActionParsnip :)
[06:41] <devkorcvince> My GPU is 53C is this normal?
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> devkorcvince: what  processes are running?
[06:42] <ny3blpb> hi can someone help me ??
[06:42] <devkorcvince> ActionParsnip nothing Just a terminal ang chrome
[06:43] <AbhijiT> ny3blpb, ask
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> devkorcvince: any flash items in the web pages?
[06:43] <Guest74074> devkorcvince yu sure whats ps aux show
[06:43] <devkorcvince> nope just webchat.freenode.net
[06:43] <ny3blpb> where i turn on my ubuntu , there is no password or login input
[06:43] <devkorcvince> ActionParsnip Just webchat freenode
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> devkorcvince: hmm not sure personally
[06:44] <twitch> ny3blpb: what comes up on your screen when you load ubuntu then?
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> ny3blpb: sounds like you turned on autologin
[06:45] <ny3blpb> nothing
[06:45] <ny3blpb> thats the problem
[06:45] <Guest74074> define nothing
[06:45] <ny3blpb> it shows the background and thats all
[06:45] <twitch> ny3blpb: do you see the kernel start up and modules and services loading?
[06:45] <ny3blpb> but that pc have a login and password
[06:46] <ny3blpb> no
[06:47] <twitch> ny3blpb: what happens if you hold control+alt+f1 .. do you see a tty?
[06:47] <Guest74074> ny3blpb you need to go into single user and change the run leevel to 3 and see if you can boot....
[06:48] <gardenia> I have 9.10 server. I don't know how to use it so I downloaded xubuntu 9.10. I would like to see all my 20 pcs through this server. They're all wireless. If I ping a certain PC, my server sees it but how do I know they are networked?
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> gardenia: you can use nmap to scan the subnet
[06:50] <gardenia> ok il try that now.
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> gardenia: if you can ping it, they are networked
[06:50] <devkorcvince> hahaha i if it rise up to 70C i will bomb hp
[06:50] <bazhang> devkorcvince, pardon?
[06:51] <Guest74074> other than what Action has said you need to start ggogling networks and servers
[06:51] <devkorcvince> bazhang my dv6t has GPU temp 52C idle
[06:51] <DiSTORT3D> building new kernels take so many time, getting sleepy
[06:51] <gardenia> Is there any way I can see all the 20 pcs. in my gui the xubuntu?
[06:52] <Guest74074> google is your friend
[06:52] <twitch> !samba | gardenia
[06:52] <DiSTORT3D> google is chaos :o
[06:52] <bazhang> Guest74074, dont suggest that here please
[06:52] <Guest74074> hil hitler
[06:53] <bazhang> Guest74074, thats not appropriate. please stop
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> !google | Guest74074
[06:53] <culb> Results for | Guest74074 on Google:
[06:53] <culb> --
[06:53] <gpc> !google | test
[06:53] <culb> Results for | test on Google:
[06:53] <culb> --
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> gardenia: if they aren't sharing services then why would you want to?
[06:53] <Guest74074> bazhang wast an ubuntu question was for xbuntu and isnt os its networks yet you tell me for sugesting google
[06:53] <ny3blpb> but what does CTRL + ALT F1
[06:54] <gardenia> i am supposedly the laboratory manager but I don't have the technical skills that's why Im groping in the dark and frequently googled but sometimes I couldn't find the answers
[06:54] <DiSTORT3D> 2.6.38-rc3-PAE almost done building about 30 mins to go i think :|
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest74074: if it was appropriate, we'd just tell everyone to google wouldn't we. What sort of mentality do you have?? If you can't help directly at least give some direction
[06:55] <neo_> zend
[06:55] <gardenia> I own the 20 pcs. and I want to see them. I could them share if I want to but the thing is I don't know how
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> DiSTORT3D: using that kernel renders issues not supoprted here as it isnt an ubuntu official kernel, plus you compiled it yourself
[06:55] <Guest74074> Action if its a question worth answering as long as the question is specific and detailed enough
[06:56] <Guest74074> and if its on topic
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> gardenia: why would you want to if they aren't giving any services. What does it achieve?
[06:56] <DiSTORT3D> I dont ask for support right ?
[06:56] <Guest74074> maybe Ive spent to log working as an admin
[06:56] <Guest74074> lomg*
[06:56] <Guest74074> long*
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> DiSTORT3D: unless you are using the offical kernels it is not possible for us to support
[06:57] <gpc> Guest74074: this is not a debate, we are telling you what our channel policy is, telling people to google is not acceptable.
[06:57] <gardenia> so that each of the 20 pcs. could use my printer.  I#'m sure they are aware of websearching
[06:58]  * ActionParsnip is glad s/he went
[06:59] <gardenia> I agree with you ActionParsnip. I google a lot but sometimes its just not enough
[07:00] <gardenia> I have so many problems with regards to networking computers, computer repair and many others
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> gardenia: if systems are sharing folders they will show in the places -> network     window
[07:03] <silver4e>  /server irc.all4y.net
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> gardenia: if a system isn't providing any service then its pointless to see it as it doesn't achieve anything. You could install some form of SNMP system to poll the systems to make sure they are up and have a diagram of the up / down ones
[07:07] <gardenia> Do I need to install samba in each of my 20 pcs. so that they can print in my printer? The thing is all of these 20 pcs. are used everyday. We only have one printer. What we do now is save it on a usb then go to my desk then print it. I want a system that will allow them to just click print
[07:08] <matsuura> yes
[07:09] <twitch> !cups | gardenia
[07:11] <fraga> эт че я получается irc настроил?
[07:11] <darkic> !ru | fraga
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> gardenia: no, you already have smbclient which can print to shared samba printers or you can use cups raw and it will work
[07:15] <Starminn> How do I make Banshee the default music player in Ubuntu 10.10?
[07:15] <bruce_> how to install yahoomessenger on ubuntu
[07:15] <scotty^> You mean without removing Rhythmbox?
[07:15] <pdtpatrick> @bruce install pidgin .. sudo apt-get install pidgin. Then you can add your yahoo account
[07:15] <Starminn> bruce, use Wine. I suggest using Pidgin though.
[07:15] <will_> hello! i'm compiling a driver for a wireless card following instructions by the manufacturer. at one point they say "run sudo make and ensure that has no any error message for compiler", then if all's well, go ahead with sudo make install. ...only i DO get errors. am i screwed unless I learn C and fix the errors myself?
 have it linux version?
[07:16] <Starminn> scotty, Either way.
[07:16] <bruce_> yes
[07:16] <twitch> Starminn: Right clic on mp3 > Properties > Open With > Add > Banshee
[07:16] <Starminn> How about for the little speaker icon on the panel though?
[07:16] <gpc> Starminn: System > Preferences > Preferred Apps either select banshee or select custom and add /usr/bin/banshee in the command box
[07:17] <Starminn> gpc, Already done it.
 Search yahoomessenger deb package
[07:17] <gpc> Starminn: it should already be in the volume icon
[07:18] <twitch> !empathy | bruce_
 or install pidgin. it supports yahoo
[07:18] <Starminn> gpc, Nope. It's running right now (listening with it currently) and it is in the Notification tray (place with internet connections and such), but the speaker icon only gives me the option to open Rhythmbox
[07:19] <gpc> Starminn: you might have to go into banshee prefs and check the show in sound menu box
[07:19] <Starminn> bruce, Yep. Empathy comes default and worked fine with my Yahoo!. Currently I am using Pidgin with my Yahoo! (and what I'm in this chat with at the moment), but it's ultimately your choice.
[07:20] <Starminn> gpc, Bahaha, you are a genius, my friend.
[07:20] <gpc> glad to help
[07:20] <will_> this driver i'm trying to compile seems intent on creating a directory in /etc/Wireless, but /etc/Wireless isn't a directory. ...what could i possibly do now?
[07:20] <gardenia> I will work on your suggestions. Thanks. In the meantime, may I ask another question. As laboratory manager of the school, one of my problems is that the students instead of doing their hands-on is opening facebook which is not related to their task. How can I as the server limit what they are viewing without using my router configuration. I tried using my router but it can't read anymore my yahoomail.
[07:21] <Starminn> Another question though. I reliaze this has to do with my theme (the ever-popular SlicknesS), but in the sound menu, user switch menu, and power options menu (though not the message menu) the text is black on a black background.
[07:21] <abhinav_singh> any help with this http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?4a1ceae654.png
[07:21] <Starminn> Any easy fixes or just go through to the theme in my system and manually edit the source to give it white text?
[07:22] <gpc> Starminn: I think you answered your own question
[07:22] <bazhang> abhinav_singh, what version of ubuntu
[07:23] <abhinav_singh> 10.04 bazhang
[07:23] <bazhang> abhinav_singh, what were you trying to do that generated that message
[07:23] <Starminn> gpc, Ah, well I was honestly hoping for some type of simple GUI I didn't know about. :D Ah well, time to fix that little text problem. :)
[07:23] <abhinav_singh> trying upgrading to 10.10 bazhang
[07:24] <gpc> Starminn: you should be able to edit the theme from the theme manager but I really couldn't say. I use default theme
[07:24] <bazhang> abhinav_singh, please pastebin your sources.list
[07:25] <Ghost_> hey ppl, i need some help: the thing is that my computer was stolen. And there are a lot of sensetive information on it on /home. It was encrypted by the Ubuntu default option - is there possibility that the guy who stole it will be able to get to information on that partition?
[07:26] <twitch> Ghost_: wa the user logged in at the time?
[07:26] <twitch> was*
[07:26] <abhinav_singh> bazhang http://pastebin.com/7z1BUyxg
[07:26] <Ghost_> nope the laptop was turned off
[07:26] <Ghost_> twitch:
[07:27] <gpc> Ghost_: it is possible.
[07:27] <Ghost_> gpc: so the only way is to use different ways of encryption - right?
[07:28] <Ghost_> gpc: and where is the hole for this system breaking?
[07:28] <gpc> Ghost_: well if they really want to get the info and with enough time and the right tools they can but it isn't simple
[07:28] <MHz128> hiya
[07:29] <twitch> Ghost_: hopefully you had a pretty stong password, if you did .. I wouldn't worry
[07:29] <MHz128> How can I enable Totem, or other windows, to take focus when run? example: when I run totem from by executing a movie in Nautilus, it always appears beneath the other windows
[07:29] <Ghost_> gpc: the thing is that they aren't just amateurs - they knew what they are doing, and the laptop was stolen on purpose
[07:30] <gpc> Ghost_: then you may want to consider changing your passwords to sensitive sites.
[07:30] <gpc> like bank and credit card companies and such
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Mhz128: devilspie can take actions when new windows appear. Grab gdevilspie from googlecode to make co
[07:31] <Ghost_> gpc, twitch: The passphrase was pritty big, i think something like 30bits
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Config easier
[07:31] <Ghost_> gpc: is it just broodforcing? Or rainbow tablets? Or there is really a security issue with default encryption of the home partition?
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Mhz128: gdevilspie is a python based app so doesn't need co
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Compiling
[07:32] <lewix>  i cant read dvd
[07:32] <MHz128> ActionParsnip, its from googlecode?? weird
[07:32] <lewix> what player do you use
[07:32] <gpc> Ghost_: there is no security issue with the encryption used in Ubuntu. The issue is not securing your laptop
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> !dvd
[07:32] <bazhang> !dvd > lewix
[07:33] <lewix> !dvd > bazhang
[07:33] <Ghost_> gpc: there is always possibility like that - that someone can break in your apartment when you're not home and take what they need
[07:33] <bazhang> lewix, I know it already
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Mhz128: only the gui. Devilspie is in the repo. If you want to learn the config file be my guest
[07:34] <gpc> Ghost_: true. what I am saying is that the level of encryption is a moot point now. the laptop is gone, your next move is protecting your data from being accessed after the encryption is broken.
[07:34] <lewix> bazhang, so do I
[07:34] <twitch> Ghost_: if your password was 30 char's long they wont brute force it .. and rainbow tables doesnt apply to this
[07:35] <MHz128> ActionParsnip, thanks guy!!!
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> Mhz128: i use it to auto
[07:35] <MHz128> auto?
[07:35] <Ghost_> gpc: so if they want to break my home partition it will take quite a while with default encryption (i mean a couple of years at least?). And i think they won't be able to get any sensitive internet information as i'm not storing it on the hard drive.
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> Mhz128: automaximize my irc window named '#ubuntu' ;-)
[07:36] <Ghost_> twitch: so theoretically they won't be able to get the information from the home partition for a while ... ?
[07:36] <tensorpudding> what's a good way to restart per-user pulseaudio?
[07:37] <twitch> Ghost_: bruteforcing a 20 char password will take<PHONE_NUMBER>846285 years
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> tensorpudding: kill the user's pulseaudio process
[07:37] <twitch> Ghost_: look up brute force calc
[07:38] <lolcat> How do I install chrome?
[07:38] <Ghost_> twitch, gpc: ok thx for that! I've just getting paranoid about what might happen to the info )))
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Ghost_: do you have lau
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Launch codes for nukes?
[07:39] <matsuura> no
[07:39] <matsuura> don't do that
[07:40] <almoxarife> lolcat: first time install ?
[07:40] <twitch> Ghost_: np's
[07:40] <lewix> hi again
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> Lolcat: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[07:40] <lolcat> almoxarife: Yep
[07:40] <elisH> hello
[07:40] <lolcat> ActionParsnip: THanks, I did chromium and got some weird game
[07:40] <lewix> bazhang, the thing is even though i installed that library I cannot read dvds...strange
[07:40] <elisH> what GTH server
[07:40] <elisH> T?
[07:40] <almoxarife> lolcat: the answer is above or directly from the web site
[07:41] <elisH> you can me gave /.?
[07:41] <bazhang> lolcat, its chromium-browser
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> Lolcat: there is a daily build ppa too if you want the latest feat
[07:41] <darkic> !info chromium
[07:41] <twitch> lolcat: lol got some weird game .. giggle
[07:41] <almoxarife> chrome
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Lolcat: *features
[07:42] <lolcat> ActionParsnip: Meh, my firefox died so I just need a browser to check if I have mail
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> !info chromium-browser
[07:43] <twitch> if u download the chrome deb from google and install it doesn't it add it automaticaly to the repo's?
[07:43] <red2kic> twitch: Probably.
[07:43] <bazhang> twitch, no
[07:43] <twitch> ahh ok
[07:43] <twitch> i dont use it .. sry :P
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> Twitch: yes but its not the daily which has less tracking stuff and beta features
[07:44] <probme> Recovery Mode is not working after install kdebase-workspace and removed GDM.How can fix this problem please?
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Probme: ca
[07:45] <twitch> ActionParsnip: ahh ok .. thanks for the info
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Can you boot to root recovery mode with networking
[07:46] <probme> ActionParsnip, sorry i did not get you
[07:47] <probme> ActionParsnip, ca mean?
[07:47] <trond-> is it still best to do clean install of a new ubuntu version, or is upgrade working even better now? Considering moving from .04 to 10.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Probme: hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode, select root with networking
[07:47] <bazhang> trond-, both are fine.
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Probme: ca means my phone is touchscreen and i'm on a bus
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> trond-: i always clean install personally
[07:49] <probme> ActionParsnip, But i am not getting such a option (That is my problem)
[07:49] <Ciphermagi> Is there anybody that can tell me how to force bios to look in /dev/sdb for my bootloader?
[07:49] <twitch> trond-: i always do a clean install on every OS
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> Probme: then grub2 is at fault. Removing gdm etc will not affect that
[07:50] <arcsky> dropbox for shell does that work?
[07:50] <probme> ActionParsnip, May be. Can i fix it?
[07:51] <twitch> arcsky: I use dropbox in gnome and works great
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> arcsky: works here. I even made a script to install it so dropbox is DE independent
[07:51] <Guest80998> ActionParnship..can you pls tell me what i should do if i have to learn kernel programming??
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Probme: boot to live cd and you can reinstate grub2
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest80998: never done it, try in #kernel
[07:53] <sss> What is Lucid?
[07:53] <Guest80998> thank you..
[07:53] <rigved> !lucid | sss
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> !lucid
[07:53] <probme> ActionParsnip, I can login as default x GUI but console and recovery mode is not working anymore
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Probme: then login and reinstall gdm
[07:55] <probme> ActionParsnip, But i don't want the gdm
[07:55] <Bazy> Hi guys, is there anywhere I can find deb packages for mysql 5.5.8? I'm running lucid
[07:55] <probme> ActionParsnip, Console as default is good for me
[07:55] <root> anybody home
[07:55] <screen-x> !root |root
[07:55] <bazhang> probme, this is GHH right? you were trying to modify gdm yesterday
[07:56] <Guest49325> anybody here
[07:56] <screen-x> hmm, that wasnt quite what I wanted..
[07:56] <probme> bazhang, Yeah
[07:56] <twitch> Guest49325: sup?
[07:56] <bazhang> probme, sounds like it created some issues'; did you try to remove plymouth?
[07:57] <Ciphermagi> Is there anyone that can help me figure out how to boot from /dev/sdb?
[07:57] <bazhang> screen-x, its rootirc
[07:57] <probme> bazhang, Yeah apt-get remove plymouth but it ask to remove everything(a lot of apps)
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest49325: running an irc client as root is massively foolhardy
[07:57] <screen-x> bazhang: ahh :)
[07:58] <neriko> Good evening. Not sure where to ask about this problem: Flashplayer has video, but no audio
[07:58] <bazhang> probme, and you were warned not to do that, correct?
[07:58] <Guest49325> waht
[07:58] <Guest49325> action parsnip ftw?
[07:58] <probme> bazhang, Yeah Y/N and i typed N at least
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest49325: you are running your irc client as root. Its a really bad idea
[07:59] <Guest49325> y?
[07:59] <sss> In what language Ubuntu softwares are programmed?
[07:59] <Ciphermagi> Because IRC isn't secure. Someone could take over your computer.
[07:59] <twitch> Guest49325: becuase someone might be able to exploit your irc client
[07:59] <Guest49325> its ok
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest49325: its bad for security
[08:00] <Guest49325> they can try
[08:00] <screen-x> sss: most of them :)
[08:00] <Guest49325> i think so too
[08:00] <sss> screen-x, Does Ubuntu have an API or something like that?
[08:00] <Guest49325> but thats the way i do it
[08:00] <hilarie> Is there an equivalent to msconfig for ubuntu? it seems alot of the random crap I installed runs in the background.
[08:00] <screen-x> sss: if you want to get started, try quickly
[08:00] <probme> bazhang, ?
[08:01] <screen-x> !info quickly
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest49325: i'm guessing you are using backtrack too
[08:01] <Guest49325> yeah
[08:01] <twitch> ActionParsnip: LOL!
[08:01] <Guest49325> how bout you
[08:01] <sss> screen-x thanks
[08:02] <neriko> My FLash player has video, but no audio. Anyone know how to fix?
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest49325: your OS isn't supported here. I'm on eclair right now
[08:02] <sss> Where can I find a tutorial about making batch files?
[08:03] <Guest49325> ok thats nice
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Sss: its a bash script in Linux
[08:03] <twitch> go andriod! :P
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Twitch: andchat ftw
[08:04] <hilarie> No, really, is there a way? To control what services are ran upon startup?
[08:04] <screen-x> !abs |sss
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> !boot
[08:04] <bazhang> hilarie, system preferences startup apps
[08:04] <scotty^> hilarie: System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications
[08:05] <sss> ActionParnsip, thanks
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest49325: in short backtrack is fi
[08:05] <goddard> whats the point of having ftp and an ssh server?
[08:05] <Guest49325> waht fi?
[08:05] <hilarie> @BazHang @Scotty^ That doesn't seem to have what I am looking for, there is nothing new there, somehow my ram usage went from 800 or so mb, to nearly 2gb, although there is nothing new under startup apps
[08:05] <Guest49325> fck it?
[08:06] <rigved> can anyone tell me how to register a nick in empathy?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Fine to use as a tool. But to use for your dailies is a really bad idea
[08:06] <Guest80998> can anyone tell me how to register for the irc
[08:06] <goddard> dont u just msg the nick server
[08:06] <rww> ubottu: tell Guest80998 about register
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> !register
[08:06] <Guest49325> yeah
[08:06] <jink> /msg nickserv help
[08:06] <twitch> !sshd goddard
[08:06] <Guest49325> but its a good tool though
[08:06] <twitch> !sshd | goddard
[08:06] <wisevoyager> hilarie: use boot up manager, run this command on terminal "sudo apt-get install bum"
[08:07] <goddard> twitch not really my question
[08:07] <hilarie> @wisevoyrager ty
[08:07] <twitch> goddard: so you dont want to remotly connect to your box>?
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest49325: yes but to irc from it and web browse and email from it is dumb
[08:07] <goddard> twitch i am asking why have a ftp server if you have an openssh server?
[08:08] <Guest49325> i dont use this in browsing email
[08:08] <scotty^> hilarie: OK, then see the info above from !boot
[08:08] <Guest49325> or anything
[08:08] <Guest49325> im just testing this on the irc
[08:08] <twitch> goddard: well some people dont have shell accounts so they have to use s/ftp
[08:08] <wisevoyager> hilarie: no prob.. :D
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest49325: its the same as any other irc client. Irc is a defacto standard
[08:09] <goddard> twitch sftp uses openssh server or ftp server?
[08:09] <Guest49325> ok..
[08:10] <twitch> ok ftp :P
[08:10] <screen-x> goddard: in my understanding sftp uses ssh, ftps is ftp+ssl
[08:10] <goddard> screen-x then why have ftp at all?
[08:10] <Guest49325> so you guys i believe dont use windows?
[08:10] <goddard> is it more limited?
[08:11] <KirkMcDonald> goddard: No such thing as anonymous sftp.
[08:11] <goddard> KirkMcDonald so its only useful if you want to login anonymously?
[08:11] <bazhang> Guest49325, lets take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:11] <screen-x> goddard: I wouldnt use ftp unless forced, ssh ftw
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Guest49325: i do at work, otherwise no i don't personally
[08:12] <Rabito> Hello
[08:12] <goddard> screen-x me to was just curious
[08:12] <KirkMcDonald> goddard: And even then, you can usually get by with http.
[08:12] <red2kic> ActionParsnip: You poor baby. :(
[08:12] <Guest49325> yeah i think mswindows sucks
[08:12] <KirkMcDonald> goddard: FTP is not terribly useful these days.
[08:12] <screen-x> I used to hate the hp drivers site, as it required the use of ftp, and messed with my firewall :(
[08:12] <bazhang> !ot
[08:13] <goddard> KirkMcDonald what about resources is ssh or ftp better?
[08:13] <KirkMcDonald> goddard: In what sense?
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Red2kic: doesn't bother me. I just get on
[08:13] <probme> bazhang, you there?
[08:13] <bazhang> probme, yes
[08:14] <red2kic> goddard: When you factor in security, it always take extra little resources. That's expected.
[08:14] <probme> bazhang, cant you help me please?
[08:14] <Rabito> which debian based distribution would you recommand for an old Thinkpad R51?
[08:14] <bazhang> Rabito, this is ubuntu support
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Rabito: what cpu speed and ram amount?
[08:15] <rigved> Rabito: debian squeeze will work fine, i think. that's the latest one. you should ask in #debian
[08:16] <Rabito> I said debian based. Isnt Ubuntu Debian based?
[08:16] <bazhang> Rabito, ubuntu support. try ##linux for more than that
[08:16] <matsuura> my cat now belongs to yakuza
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Rabito: if you answer I can recommend an ubuntu flavour
[08:17] <Rabito> ok bazhang
[08:17] <Rabito> thanks anyway
[08:17] <rafal__> hello
[08:17] <bazhang> matsuura, interesting but offtopic
[08:18] <neil_d> I have a 10.4 server where I setup xrdp.. it was working fine.... but now I need to reset the server all the time to get it to work for a while... can anyone help me find out why it stops working?
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> neil_d: when it stops, read your logs
[08:19] <MindTaker> .
[08:20] <probme> Really i need help to solve problem
[08:20] <bazhang> probme, fixing gdm? what did you do ?
[08:21] <neil_d> ActionParsnip: I looked in syslog and auth there was nothing I could see that related at all.. the connection log displayed on the window stops at 'sending login info to sesman' .... restarting the xrdp service does nothing.
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> neil_d: are there any bugs logged?
[08:22] <probme> bazhang, Need to solve the Recovery or console mode login . I do not like to use gdm but if it is impossible without gdm or kdm then i can use kdm instead gdm
[08:22] <bazhang> probme, you removed it?
[08:23] <probme> bazhang, Yeah i remove GDM and currently have the KDM
[08:23] <bazhang> probme, please pastebin the exact errors you are receiving
[08:24] <probme> bazhang, Perhaps i need to take picture of the error because it is not starting anymore
[08:27] <Sir_Rusty> Hi all, anyone out there that can help an Ubuntu newbie with missing resolutions in x server (I suspect a driver is not installed correctly, maybe monitor?) Trying to get 1920x1280, max is 1360x720 which is horrible on my monitor
[08:27] <neil_d> ActionParsnip: not that I have found... in sesman.log there is just one message when I try to login... [20110204-19:24:51] [INFO ] scp thread on sck 9 started successfully... the number (9) is incrementing each time I try.
[08:27] <como22> ciao
[08:27] <como22> !lista
[08:28] <Starminn> I have deleted Rhythmbox, set my preferred application to Banshee (as that is what I prefer), etc., etc., but Rhythmbox still appears in my sound menu in Ubuntu 10.10. Suggestions on killing it?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Sir_rusty: what video chip?
[08:28] <Sir_Rusty> 9800gt
[08:28] <Sir_Rusty> (Nvidia)
[08:29] <Sir_Rusty> It seems to have only loaded very simple resolutions, I can view in X Server it says I have a 9800, my monitor however shows as CRT:0 I think
[08:29] <Sir_Rusty> CRT-1 maybe
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Sir_rusty: ok run: sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings
[08:30] <Sir_Rusty> to open Xserver, right?
[08:30] <rkhshm> if i have to build ubuntu(UCE) where should i look for the source code ?
[08:30] <rkhshm> I beleieve its already ported to ubuntu ?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Sir_rusty: set the res to something then click 'save to x config file'
[08:31] <Sir_Rusty> I have already done that before, once I switched from 1024 res to 1368
[08:32] <Sir_Rusty> so when I reboot defaults to 1368x720 but I can't choose any higher
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> Sir_rusty: then run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:32] <Sir_Rusty> have also done, how should I modifiy it?
[08:32] <Sir_Rusty> fyi ubuntu 10.10
[08:32] <Sir_Rusty> I'm not sure which lines to add/modify
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Sir_rusty: and manually edit the res in the screen section. Save the file and reboot
[08:33] <Sir_Rusty> Have also done that, and that is about as far as I have gotten
[08:33] <Sir_Rusty> but still no difference
[08:34] <rkhshm> any ideas guys ?
[08:34] <Acid190> driver update?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Sir_rusty: so you set it to the res you wanted?
[08:34] <Sir_Rusty> should my Identifier show 'Screen0' and Monitor "Monitor0' or should it show a specific description
[08:34] <Acid190> sometimes nvidia has more info on they're website about linux drivers
[08:34] <Sir_Rusty> yup, set to res I wanted Option         "metamodes" "1920x1280 +0+0" saved the file and rebooted
[08:35] <susundberg> Huh shouldnt you look at log why its not showing the 1920x resolution in the list
[08:36] <susundberg> and what driver are you using -- nouveau works fine for me (nvidia gts250)
[08:36] <Acid190> The one time that happened to me, i never clicked Apply after/before saving xconf
[08:36] <Sir_Rusty> it's not just 1920 missing, I'm missing heaps of resolutions, I have only two widescreen res' 1360x768 and 1152x864
[08:36] <tartanpion> hi
[08:36] <tartanpion> hi
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Sir_rusty: hmm that's all i got. Maybe others can help. I gotta sleep. Its late/early here
[08:37] <Sir_Rusty> I've def applied, have tried many, many times
[08:37] <tartanpion> why is the mac address useful, why the ip isn't enough ?
[08:37] <Sir_Rusty> ty anyway
[08:38] <Sir_Rusty> just finding driver, not very good with Ubuntu yet (Windows user for years, shoot me).
[08:38] <susundberg> yeah i agree
[08:38] <bc81> hullo.  any recommendations for a good download manager (i need to be able to throttle & resume).  i'm looking at fatrat, uget, and multiget, but can't really decide
[08:38] <Sir_Rusty> ok, I don't know how to check my video driver, still really new
[08:38] <susundberg> did you say you had fresh install with native drivers -- not self installed from nvidia website?
[08:39] <Sir_Rusty> I had to install 3rd party
[08:39] <red2kic> bc81: aria2. Just a thought.
[08:39] <susundberg> chech /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:39] <Sir_Rusty> well it said I did (obviously replacing the generic it was using
[08:39] <bc81> red2kic: GUI is preferred, but thanks for the suggestion
[08:39] <susundberg> 3rd party drivers == problems
[08:39] <Sir_Rusty> chech command not found
[08:40] <Sir_Rusty> It told me I have to use 3rd party I think
[08:40] <susundberg> oh sorry, i meant check out with some text editor
[08:40] <susundberg> like notepad or kate or gedit
[08:40] <Sir_Rusty> kk
[08:40] <susundberg> but you installed them from package manager, not download from nvidia.com ?
[08:40] <susundberg> thats fine
[08:40] <Sir_Rusty> package manager
[08:41] <susundberg> you should see on the log file information about the driver
[08:41] <probme> bazhang, Here is small jpg. Sorry i have taken it by my mobile http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/8809/spa0029j.jpg
[08:41] <Sir_Rusty> just looking for driver info in the log now, it's a rather big log
[08:41] <knottie> how do I connect to an implicit ssl ftp site from the command prompt?
[08:42] <susundberg> Yeah its kombined X (graphics) log
[08:42] <Sir_Rusty> is this what I want (scanning this log for a version is tricky for me) NVIDIA GLX Module  260.19.06
[08:42] <susundberg> you should see there somethign like "(II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation""
[08:43] <susundberg> (you can search for nvidia in the file and ignore other lines)
[08:43] <bazhang> probme, why not just do what actionparsnip recommended?
[08:43] <probme> bazhang, Have you got this please? After these a lot of message it is not starting anything
[08:44] <bazhang> probme, I'm not clear what you have modified and removed, etc. why not follow actionparsnip 's advice
[08:44] <Sir_Rusty> this perhaps? Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[08:44] <Sir_Rusty> [    14.490] 	compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[08:44] <Sir_Rusty> [    14.490] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[08:44] <knottie> how do I connect to an implicit ssl ftp site from the command prompt?
[08:45] <Acid190> Sir_Rusty: checked Administration/Hardware Drivers? Updates?
[08:45] <probme> bazhang, installing gdm?
[08:45] <bazhang> probme, yes.
[08:45] <Sir_Rusty> I don't have Administration/Hardware Drivers
[08:45] <Sir_Rusty> if I got admin/additional drivers it says I have the latest
[08:46] <bazhang> Sir_Rusty, its additional drivers
[08:46] <jadahl> knottie: you mean using a terminal ftp client that supports ssl?
[08:46] <susundberg> Sir_rusty, mayby you could upload the log file say in pastebin.com and i can check it out
[08:46] <probme> bazhang, But i like only kde even if it is start as startx then it is more good(kde startx command for gui)
[08:46] <knottie> jadahl: well, yes. the terminal ftp client that comes doesn't support ssl, and I'm not sure ftp-ssl does implicit either
[08:46] <jadahl> knottie: try "lftp"
[08:46] <bazhang> probme, okay, then no idea, sorry.
[08:47] <knottie> jadahl: what is the switch for implicit with lftp?
[08:47] <leapy0yo> hi
[08:47] <Sir_Rusty> ok, thanks, back soon
[08:47] <jadahl> i dont know, but lftp supports pretty many options so maybe it can do what you want as well
[08:47] <knottie> jadahl: Well, I have it and I've read man lftp and I didn't notice an implicit ssl switch
[08:48] <leapy0yo> i do not have high resolution available on my netbook, is there a way to make icons lots smaller and make it appear similar to if i had high resolution?
[08:48] <bazhang> leapy0yo, change the icon size?
[08:48] <pppZero> irc.freenode.net
[08:48] <jadahl> knottie: AFAICS it supports ftps both explicit and implicit
[08:49] <leapy0yo> the icon sizes and the toolbar at the top for ubuntu...if i can make it appear as if i had high resolution
[08:49] <Sir_Rusty> http://pastebin.com/uathg3MA    I'm taking a guess that's how I link it (haven't used before, cool idea though).
[08:49] <sss> http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1662/folderscreenshot.png - It changed to gray, how do I restore to default colors?
[08:49] <bazhang> leapy0yo, what resolution do you have currently?
[08:50] <knottie> jadahl: I don't see how.
[08:50] <bazhang> sss, seems you need to change the theme via the theme manager
[08:50] <jadahl> have you tried just entering ftps:...?
[08:50] <leapy0yo> bazhabng, about 1079 something i think
[08:50] <red2kic> sss: If you're in root, it'll be default.
[08:51] <knottie> jadahl: Ah, you mean putting it in that cotext so open the ftps:blah?
[08:51] <sss> bazhang, I am using Ambiance theme and It is still selected
[08:51] <jadahl> knottie: yes something like that
[08:51] <bazhang> leapy0yo, not sure about icon size, I think the netbook remix is somewhat locked down in that respect
[08:51] <knottie> jadahl: open: ftps: Name or service not known
[08:53] <jadahl> knottie: did you enter the whole address including port? > open ftps://IP.NUMBER:PORT ?
[08:54] <knottie> jadahl: ahah! thanks a lot
[08:54] <knottie> I was doing ftps://IP.NUMBER PORT
[08:54] <knottie> not ftps://IP.NUMBER:PORT
[08:54] <jadahl> ah :)
[08:54] <jadahl> so it works?
[08:54]  * knottie nods
[08:54] <jadahl> great!
[08:55] <sveinse> If I'm writing a service as an upstart job, what is the best approach for running the process as non-root? I can use su, but can I do it directly?
[08:55] <leapy0yo> the whole turn off touch pad while typingf does not work for me, is there an additional program to help with this?
[08:58] <sss>  http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1662/folderscreenshot.png - I am using Ambiance and for some reason it changed gray
[08:59] <abhinav_singh> I need help with this ..when I am trying to upgrade to 10.10 from 10.04 ..i am getting this http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?4a1ceae654.png  ..here is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/7z1BUyxg
[09:02] <twitch> abhinav_singh: edit sorces.list and take out everything that is not 100% ubuntu
[09:02] <twitch> then apt-get update
[09:03] <twitch> n try again
[09:03] <bc81> abhinav_singh: yea looks like you might comment out the php-fpm stuff
[09:03] <twitch> with apt-get install -f
[09:03] <sss> How do I update using the terminal?
[09:04] <bc81> sss: sudo apt-get update
[09:04] <sss> bc81, thanks
[09:04] <abhinav_singh> twitch what is 100 % ubuntu..you mean I will have to comment out mongo db and php lines
[09:06] <twitch> abhinav_singh: yeah
[09:07] <zenghui> 有懂中文的没?
[09:09] <bc81> !cn | zenghui
[09:09] <sl33k_> The update manager before beginning to update shows low memory. Why is it such? (I am on dual booted 10.04 LTS)
[09:09] <abhinav_singh> okay twitch i have run apt-get update ..whats apt-get install -f ?
[09:10] <twitch> fix borken
[09:10] <twitch> broken too
[09:11] <bc81> sl33k_: what is the exact error message? need more details
[09:13] <newlife> hi
[09:13] <sl33k_> bc81: After clicking install updates, window pops up showing "not enough disk space" "empty some disk space"
[09:14] <bc81> sl33k_: pastebin the output of       df -h
[09:14] <newlife> i need help using my net i can't see my hdd plugged into the usb port of my router linksys
[09:14] <twitch> sl33k_: goto a console and type df-h ... look ya space
[09:14] <twitch> df -h
[09:15] <sl33k_> bc81: http://pastebin.com/PERZxXyV
[09:15] <twitch> newlife: this is a ubuntu spoort channel not a router device
[09:16] <twitch> suport too
[09:16] <twitch> meh /me bed
[09:16] <newlife> twitch: sorry may u tell me where i can find support for this problem?
[09:16] <bc81> sl33k_: you have ~90MB available it seems...you need to free up space, or expand your partition
[09:17] <newlife> twitch: 'cause even the ubuntu net see the hdd
[09:17] <twitch> newlife: i dont know of any router you can plug  your hdd into and share unless it's a NAS but still not a router
[09:18] <newlife> twitch: sorry.... linksys had a usb stogage port to use about but.... i don't know how to see it
[09:18] <sl33k_> bc81: how difficult is it to expand the partition?
[09:19] <bc81> sl33k_: well, i would boot into a live cd, and use gparted to expand the partition...depending on how many partitions/operating systems you have, it can be very easy to quite time consuming
[09:19] <twitch> newlife: sounds like a linksys/cisco thingo man .. try over there
[09:20] <newlife> twitch: i tried but no solutions
[09:20] <twitch> !ot | newlife
[09:21] <twitch> it's a linksys thing bro
[09:21] <newlife> -.-    twitch
[09:21] <sl33k_> bc81: i have a live cd of 9.x. my other partition is xp via wubi.
[09:21] <sss> Where is my python interepter installed?
[09:22] <twitch> sss: type CLI whereis python
[09:22] <Loshki> sss: if it's not in /usr/bin I'll eat my hat...
[09:22] <bc81> sl33k_: then you can probably shrink the xp partition (defrag first) and expand the ubuntu partition
[09:24] <timmillwood> is 11.04 stable enough play about with yet?
[09:24] <timmillwood> and is unity in there yet?
[09:24] <Jordan_U> bc81: There is no need to defrag first.
[09:24] <twitch> timmillwood: it's development .. so no
[09:25] <twitch> !lucid | timmillwood
[09:25] <Loshki> !11.04 | timmillwood
[09:25] <twitch> !maverick | timmillwood
[09:26] <bc81> sl33k_: Jordan_U the gparted documentation recommends it http://gparted.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=help-manual&lang=C#gparted-advanced-partition-actions  besides, it won't hurt any to do so
[09:27] <Jordan_U> bc81: And the ntfsresize (the tool gparted actually uses to resize ntfs) explicitly states that it is not necessary.
[09:28] <Jordan_U> bc81: *ntfsresize man page.
[09:28] <sss> I installed a software using Ubuntu Software Center. It says it's installed, where do I find it?
[09:28] <Loshki> sl33k_: make sure you have backups of anything important before you start, just in case....
[09:29] <timmillwood> thanks Loshki  & twitch
[09:29] <timmillwood> shame Unity doesn't play nice in virtualbox.
[09:30] <bc81> Jordan_U: ok, maybe not xp..but for vista resizing, where space is a factor, defrag before shrink can recover more unused space
[09:30] <sl33k_> Loshki: how to backup important s/ws and all
[09:30] <sss> How do I run software I installed with Ubuntu Software Center
[09:30] <twitch> sss: thorugh the gnome/kde/etc meno or command line
[09:31] <Antonis> Hello. I am running ubuntu 10.10 desktop edition and would like to get rid of the menubars of each and every application and instead get them on the gnome-panel
[09:31] <Antonis> the same goes for titlebar and close,maximize,minimize button
[09:31] <sss> twitch, Can you explain?
[09:31] <Loshki> !backup | sl33k_
[09:31] <twitch> menu
[09:31] <Antonis> could you please provide me with a link or something or if there are applets for the panel, give me the names so I can look them up?
[09:32] <Loshki> sl33k_: sorry, doing backups turns out to be a big subject...
[09:32] <lewix> hi
[09:32] <lewix> there
[09:32] <JenniferB2> I can't install ubuntu.. it keeps going into the live disc and it takes forever!
[09:32] <lewix> whats a good videomaker
[09:32] <DPx> Could anyonne give me a hand with Firefox, can't stop it from crashing or freezing every 2minutes. Then it comes back and freezes 2minutes later and so on
[09:32] <JenniferB2> I have a previous installation of ubuntu server on it that I want to clear
[09:32] <pvl1> Antonis, what are you trying to do?
[09:32] <pvl1> lewix, a director
[09:33] <lewix> pvll, a app
[09:33] <sss> twitch, Can you explain please?
[09:33] <Antonis> pvl1, I want to get rid of the menubars and titlebars of applications and instead load them on the panel whenever I maximize an app. like the netbook edition but on my desktop
[09:33] <iqpi_> DPx: run firefox trough the console
[09:33] <pvl1> JenniferB2, before booting a live cd, edit the string and take off the last bit, you should get a lot of debug info
[09:33] <twitch> JenniferB2: in the install when it comes to parts do u select use entire disk
[09:33] <JenniferB2> edit the string ?
[09:33] <Bazy> guys, where can I edit to modify PATH for all users on the system?
[09:33] <rileyp> grub is installed on wrong drive how can i fix it
[09:34] <JenniferB2> twitch: I get the screen to choose language and then I select install ubuntu
[09:34] <bc81> lewix: depends on what you want to do.  pitivi is a lot like windows movie maker, and avidemux is similar to virtualdub
[09:34] <JenniferB2> and end up in the live disc stuff anyway
[09:34] <Loshki> !manual | sss:
[09:34] <lewix> thank u
[09:34] <pvl1> Antonis, you mean just use the right click to change the maximize and such
[09:35] <twitch> JenniferB2: keep following install and it will come to the disk stuffz :D
[09:35] <ag24sas> need help for internet sharing 10.10server proliant ml350 eth0 ip static internet and etho ip static lan; gui help
[09:35] <Antonis> pvl1, on the gnome-panel (the panel at the top) I want to get the menubar (like XChat, View, Server, Window, Help) on XCHat, every time I maximize it, instead of having it on the app
[09:35] <JenniferB2> twitch: I don't even get that far
[09:35] <Antonis> like the netbook edition has.. globalmenu etc.
[09:36] <twitch> JenniferB2: ok how far u get
[09:36] <sl33k_> bc81: for how long can i go without updating ubuntu?
[09:36] <iqpi_> Bazy: in the .bashrc confof each user you can do it, just type and the end of the file: PATH="dir:ahotherdir:and_so_on"
[09:36] <DPx> iqpi_ same result im thinking its only todo with flash player, working okay on everything but psx-scene. Im using flash-aid.
[09:36] <JenniferB2> twitch: the language stuff doesn't always come up but I end up going into live disc without being prompted for language or the install menu twitch( also live disk option)
[09:36] <pvl1> Antonis, http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/
[09:36] <ag24sas> need help for internet sharing 10.10server proliant ml350 eth1 ip static internet and eth0 ip static lan; gui help
[09:36] <pvl1> ag24sas, whats the problem
[09:37] <bc81> sl33k_: lol some people run very old systems and never update...depends on how comfortable you are with potential security holes
[09:37] <ag24sas> what are need settings? pvl1
[09:37] <JenniferB2> twitch: I am going to try to wipe my harddrive using the ubuntu server edition... rm -f * ?
[09:37] <DPx> iqpi_ (<unknown>:2072): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[09:37] <twitch> JenniferB2: ok well i cant help you sry .. i have had that problem befoew .. i kept rebooting and trying until it [passed .. (lame but working answer lol)
[09:37] <pvl1> ag24sas, gimme a second
[09:38] <ag24sas> pvl1, may I pm you?
[09:38] <pvl1> ag24sas, yea sure
[09:38] <Antonis> pvl1, I went to that website earlier but in the installation section there is no ppa for lucid or maverick :\
[09:38] <trond-> JenniferB2, seems to me that the boot options are set to cd then disk, change to disk (harddisk) then cd.. and you won't boot into live cd.
[09:39] <pvl1> Antonis, just get the source and compile it
[09:39] <twitch> JenniferB2: e.g. i had a laptop and it took like 10 cold reboots until ubuntu would fully instal;l once it was on it worked fime but i cant TS installs
[09:39] <Antonis> pvl1, ok.. let me see how it goes :p brb
[09:40] <iqpi_> DPx: it seems to be an error according the propietary radeon driver
[09:40] <BLuEGoD> hi
[09:40] <bc81> sl33k_: example, if you have a "work horse" machine that maybe only encodes video 24/7 or renders 3d sequences, never has a need to connect to the net..you can run this system indefinitely without updating
[09:41] <bc81> hi BLuEGoD
[09:41] <DPx> thanks iqpi_ will have a look into it
[09:41] <BLuEGoD> I've succesfuly upgraded my php version in hardy manually to 5.3, however, I don't know how to "update" apache to get the new php working... google didn't help me on this.. could anyone point me in the right direction?
[09:42] <sl33k_> bc81: so its ok if i delay this a bit
[09:43] <twitch> !ot > BLuEGoD
[09:43] <Tm_T> twitch: if he's discussing about ubuntu packages and alike, it's not offtopic
[09:43] <Loshki> sl33k_: any machine exposed the internet should probably take security updates, at a minimum...
[09:43] <BLuEGoD> oh I don't think I would do the same in Ubuntu, FreeBSD or Windows, so I don't think it's unrelated
[09:44] <twitch> Tm_T: 5.3 is supported?
[09:44] <Tm_T> twitch: I have no idea, you didn't state why it would be offtopic
[09:44] <bc81> BLuEGoD: sl33k_ that's entirely up to you..and how much you value the security of your data.  on a personal note, i set up a laptop for my parents, and disabled updating (and all the problems that come with it)  so i only update once or twice a year and they are not complainging (then again they only use the computer for light browsing and email/games etc
[09:44] <twitch> it's not in stable .. ?
[09:44] <sl33k_> Loshki: how much disk space will be freed by deleting temporary files? and how to free it?
[09:45] <BLuEGoD> Current PHP 5.3 Stable: 5.3.5 source: php.net
[09:45] <JenniferB2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/531027
[09:45] <BLuEGoD> I've already installed php5.3 in hardy, I'm just looking a way to reflect this in Apache, I dont know how to do this in ubuntu
[09:46] <Tm_T> BLuEGoD: if you're installing outside of ubuntu package repositories, it's relatively hard for us to help you
[09:47] <aethelrick> BLuEGoD: did you install the apache PHP module? or just PHP?
[09:47] <BLuEGoD> just php
[09:47] <twitch> Tm_T: syr going to bed to annoyed as a pissed person :P
[09:47] <BLuEGoD> I got the previous version of the module
[09:47] <Loshki> sl33k_: unless you've been working with very large files (e.g. video) I don't know that you'll save much space 'deleting temporary files'. How much data are we talking about?
[09:47] <twitch> err missed /msg sry
[09:47] <Tm_T> twitch: np, sleep well
[09:47] <bc81> sl33k_: bleachbit for linux, ccleaner for windows
[09:47] <BLuEGoD> is there a way to update that module ? is not included in the php tarball ?
[09:48] <sl33k_> bc81: apt-get install bleachbit?
[09:48] <kFj> Hi.. i want to install ubuntu server that will be used for TWiki. i have a hp proliant with 2 72gb sas drives. what is the best solution? raid using the server raid array, or software raid in ubuntu? also. the setup still reads them as separate drives, even they are setup in raid 1+0 in the server raid array
[09:48] <Tm_T> kFj: that's prolly best asked in #ubuntu-offtopic as it's more of an opinion
[09:48] <aethelrick> BLuEGoD: the module just needs to be in the right directory and configured in apache.
[09:49] <sl33k_> bc81: will it give problems when installing modules to other partitions?
[09:49] <kFj> Tm_T ok. thanks. ill do that:D
[09:49] <bc81> sl33k_: yes, but you only have about 6 gig for your entire linux installation.  please consider shrinking windows, and expanding linux partition by 20 or more GB
[09:49] <Antonis> pvl1, do you maybe know how to do the same for the min,max,close buttons? I mean get them on the panel?
[09:49] <bc81> sl33k_: i don't know..what do you mean by modlues?
[09:49] <BLuEGoD> aethelrick: ok! so do you think the module is in the php tarball already ?
[09:50] <sl33k_> bc81: like checking out from a repository.
[09:50] <pvl1> Antonis, uhm, unless you wanna hack the source code, no idea
[09:50] <pvl1> Antonis, but then again, i dont see why that would be so difficult
[09:50] <aethelrick> BluEGoD: gimme a sec... checking
[09:50] <BLuEGoD> thanks!!
[09:50] <UbuntuNub> hello, i was wondering if anyone was willing to help me with a problem
[09:51] <AbhijiT> hey
[09:51] <twitch> bc81: modules are like drivers that get loaded drom the kernel to run our "other devices"
[09:51] <AbhijiT> LO looks promising!! :)
[09:51] <Antonis> I will let you know if I find anything =)
[09:51] <Antonis> thanks for helping!
[09:52] <aethelrick> BLuEGoD: did you build from source?
[09:52] <UbuntuNub> i was wanting to get Ubuntu for my laptop (not netbook) and was wondering if I am supposed to use the Desktop version
[09:52] <aethelrick> UbuntuNub: yup, full edition is great on notebooks :)
[09:53] <UbuntuNub> ok cheers for that
[09:53] <UbuntuNub> and also, does ubuntu install all of your drivers (for USB ports, WiFi cards, Graphics cards etc?)
[09:54] <xiong> I believe in automated backup but I have an issue with it on my laptop; it always seems to kick in right when I wake up the machine and want to do something, right then. How can I adjust the cron job so that it only runs during idle time?
[09:57] <llutz> xiong: using anacron you could adjust the offset to a later point (man anacrontab)
[09:57] <devcorkvince> whos using dv6t quad here any problems on temp i have CPU 54C , HD 54C, GPU 48C? is this normal?
[09:57] <xiong> llutz, Thanks. I'll look at that.
[09:59] <bc81> UbuntuNub: yes, unless the driver is restricted or the device is unsupported.  for the former you can check System >> Administration >> Additional Drivers
[10:00] <devcorkvince> any one using ubuntu on dv6t quad... any temp problem? i have both CPU and HD 56C-60C and GPU 48C-53C
[10:00] <bc81> UbuntuNub: the only way to know for sure is to try it out :-)  once booted, you can test @ System >> Administration >> System Testing
[10:02] <UbuntuNub> Thanks for all of your help guys
[10:02] <aethelrick> BLuEGoD, did you install from source??
[10:03] <bc81> UbuntuNub: good luck, and enjoy Ubuntu
[10:06] <guest9> how to install firefox 3.5 in ubuntu 10.10 ?
[10:09] <kai> hi folks
[10:10] <Rish> Hi
[10:13] <rileyp> I need to reinstall grub as its on a disk I wish to remove from my system Do I need to set the boot flag in gparted on the drive Im keepingthat contains the os??
[10:14] <rileyp> I dont have a boot partition and my fist partition on th edrive is swap
[10:16] <AbhijiT> !fixgrub | rileyp
[10:16] <rileyp> AbhijiT,  It is grub2
[10:16] <furi> is there a way to issue a command from a tty to the main screen?
[10:17] <AbhijiT> rileyp, karmic that is 9.10 onwards we have grub2
[10:17] <rileyp> AbhijiT,  Im usingthe os at present that has the drive I wish to remove
[10:17] <AbhijiT> rileyp, no idea. i am not getting you.
[10:17] <rileyp> its lucid and grub2 I know that bit
[10:17] <rileyp> And it works but only if I maintain my old drive in to allow it to boot
[10:18] <rileyp> when that drive is removed it does not boot
[10:18] <AeSix> I'm trying to run XFCE in VNC on a headless server (ubuntu 10.10 server). I have VNC working, but it is connecting to a plain old X desktop. How can I have XFCE be used?
[10:19] <AeSix> wait, it appears xubuntu-desktop didn't get installed
[10:19] <rileyp> Aesisx you can ssh -X<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:19] <rileyp> and then just type the program you want
[10:20] <rileyp> eg thunar!
[10:20] <AeSix> rileyp, I'm wanting a full desktop. I'm a Windows guy normally, and I find I work much more effeciently in a GUI. :S
[10:21] <AeSix> that aside, where do I type "ssh -X username@addy"?
[10:21] <rileyp> terminal
[10:21] <AeSix> I'm using Windows as my desktop, so I guess I'd type that in my putty SSH session?
[10:21] <rileyp> do you have ssh installed ?
[10:22] <felichas> hi,   tail -f   works as expected locally, but I experience buffer problems when tailing log files in a mounted cifs filesystem (windows eol)
[10:22] <felichas> sometimes new lines don't show up, but can be seen with tail -n though.  Any hint?
[10:22] <rileyp> ahh -x wont work in windows without lots of fiddling sorry
[10:22] <red2kic> AeSix: You would have to install Windows X11 app. I don't know the name of it but you'd need one.
[10:23] <rileyp> red2kic,  IS ON THE MONEY
[10:23] <AeSix> red2kic - thought that's pretty much what VNC was doing?
[10:23] <furi> is there a way to issue a command from a tty to the main screen?
[10:23] <red2kic> AeSix: VNC stream out everything that's on the "screen" -- where ssh is just CLI, but could bring you an X11 application to work on.
[10:23] <rileyp> furi selected a bad screen res?
[10:23] <rileyp> lol I did that yesterday
[10:24] <furi> rileyp, nah, just have an opened up fullscreen program and would like to get rid of it
[10:24] <alpinestars_2002> Hello
[10:24] <alpinestars_2002> First time on irc
[10:24] <alpinestars_2002> Rather interesting
[10:24] <red2kic> AeSix: It is more of a preference that he is offering you. That's all.
[10:24] <rileyp> then just kiol the program from the tty screen
[10:24] <rileyp> eg killall xbmc]
[10:25] <furi> you mean, that works?
[10:25] <furi> if i'm logged in as that user
[10:25] <AeSix> red2kic - like I stated, i've got VNC working, but I've got the plain old X desktop. I know it's possible to have VNC connect to XFCE, but don't know how to do it in this scenario
[10:25] <milamber> furi: F11 will usually take the program out of full screen
[10:25] <rileyp> yes
[10:25] <furi> wow, thought it involved connecting to the X program or something
[10:25] <furi> idk, i'm not really... savvy
[10:25] <bc81> AeSix: what vnc server are you running?
[10:25] <red2kic> AeSix: I never really messed around with VNC much myself. Sorry. :O
[10:25] <Drue192> Hey, My video is kinda laggy on the latest release of ubuntu. 10.10 i think. Anyway my computer is a HP Pavilion ZE5600 series, what do i have to do to upgrade? Thanks.
[10:26] <AeSix> bc81 tightvncserver
[10:26] <furi> thanks
[10:26] <rileyp> Drue192,  no one know what video adaptor you have that migt help
[10:26] <bc81> AeSix: i have had the same trouble with it, have you tried x11vncserver?  or vino server works well too
[10:26] <AeSix> I attempted to duplicate a config I had on a previous server. The main difference though is that machine had a GUI desktop, this one does not.
[10:26] <rileyp> is its nvidia or intel or ati
[10:27] <AeSix> I just don't know what I'm not doing
[10:27] <rileyp> AeSix,  just install linux instaed of windows on the client machine and all problems fixed
[10:27] <rileyp> :D
[10:27] <AeSix> You going to buy me a new computer I can use for gmaing, rileyp?
[10:28] <dylanioop> whats the australian room?
[10:28] <AeSix> #2,000
[10:28] <AeSix> sorry
[10:28] <rileyp> furi go back to tty7 and alt +tab out of it (only possible if another program is running'
[10:28] <AeSix> that was wrong of me.
[10:28] <rileyp> Im skippy :D
[10:29] <bc81> AeSix: try installing vino then starting it with /usr/lib/vino/vino-server see if that works
[10:29] <red2kic> AeSix: How are you connecting to the VNC? I'm thinking you're using root account if you're getting a plain display X11 thing.
[10:29] <rileyp> Ae no it was wrong of me :D
[10:29] <rileyp> Windows shits me these days
[10:29] <Aethelrick> AeSix, I have to ask... erm, why you running an X environment on your server? (I came to the conversation late, so I may have got the wrong end of the stick)
[10:29] <red2kic> rileyp: Language. :)
[10:29] <AeSix> bc81 it's not tightvnc not working, that's working, I just do not know how to make XFCE get into the mix
[10:29] <Drue192> rileyp, How would i check  under ubuntu it is the only OS on this PC and i am a Ubuntu noob.
[10:29] <rileyp> everytime I go to copy and paste  by highlighting and clicking mouse and it dont work
[10:30] <red2kic> AeSix: Did you install xubuntu-desktop? How did you install it? Server Iso?
[10:30] <AeSix> Aethelrick - cause I need a GUI to be able to work. I'm a Windows guy normally, but the Windows VM we had set up failed miserably with KVM
[10:30] <mawi__> hi
[10:30] <Aethelrick> AeSix, what's running on your X desktop, can you simply launch XFCE? perhaps edit startx?
[10:31] <AeSix> Aethelrick I don't know.
[10:31] <AeSix> That's why I'm here
[10:31] <mawi__> i try to create an unattended install of ubuntu 10.10 with crypto disk
[10:31] <rileyp> Drue open google and type in model of your pc and find out its specs or look in dmesg from a terminal screen
[10:31] <Aethelrick> AeSix, what do you see on your VNC screen?
[10:31] <AeSix> and there's nothing running on the X VNC session other than the X cursor
[10:31] <mawi__> how can i preseed a passwd for crypto ?
[10:31] <red2kic> AeSix: Start from the beginning. You installed it... how?
[10:31] <red2kic> AeSix: If you want XFCE, install xubuntu-desktop.
[10:32] <AeSix> red2kic I did
[10:32] <red2kic> AeSix: Presumbly from server iso?
[10:32] <AeSix> no from apt-get
[10:32] <bc81> AeSix: try startxfce4 or xfce4-session
[10:32] <AeSix> I don't have access to the server
[10:32] <bc81> oh
[10:32] <red2kic> AeSix: Did you reboot after you installed it?
[10:32] <AeSix> all I have to do is get XFCE to start and VNC will connect to it?
[10:33] <mawi__> hmm
[10:33] <mawi__> nevermind already got i working ;x
[10:33] <mawi__> i missed a line in the .seed file
[10:33] <AeSix> I'll be back
[10:33] <daniel34> Hi, I am updating my computer. (Dell XP1710) running latest Ubuntu 10. This may be a hardware-question. But will alternative #2 and #3 work for my computer. : http://paste.ubuntu.com/562457/
[10:33] <bc81> AeSix: that's what i was saying earlier about tightvncserver, even with xfce running, you will still get the x screen..so do try using vino or x11vncserver
[10:34] <AeSix> bc81 - and that's exactly what I told you did NOT happen on my old server
[10:34] <AeSix> and I will be back
[10:34] <rileyp> Drue ATI MOBILITY RADEON 4X AGP and 3D architecture
[10:34] <red2kic> daniel34: ##hardware -- Try that.
[10:35] <rileyp> Drue192,  ATI MOBILITY RADEON 4X AGP and 3D architecture
[10:35] <bc81> AeSix: well, xubuntu 9.04 had no trouble with tightvncserver, but for some reason 10.10 did..all i got was the x desktop
[10:35] <Class> hello guys we have a web hosting there is installed php4 and 5 on the server someone is using php5 and others php4.  Now i want a user list who are using php4 an php5 from where can i get this information ?
[10:35] <leonard> Aikar, how to install vmware workstation 7 ??i am use ubuntu 10.10 maveerik
[10:36] <moldy> hi
[10:36] <red2kic> Class: "man lsof"
[10:36] <leonard> AeSix, how to install vmware workstation 7 ??i am use ubuntu 10.10 maveerik
[10:37] <moldy> when i try to upgrade a system from 10.04 to 10.10, i get a "Resolve generated breaks" error. i guess this is caused by some "unofficial" package that is installed. how do i reliably determine which unofficial packages are installed? i remove all from origin "local" in synaptic, but that didn't solve the issue
[10:38] <Tm_T> moldy: are you using do-release-upgrade ?
[10:38] <moldy> Tm_T: yes
[10:38] <leonard> moldy , how to install vmware workstation 7 ??i am use ubuntu 10.10 maveerik
[10:38] <Tm_T> moldy: that's all I had to know to know I don't know (:
[10:38] <Drue192> rileyp, I looked on Google and it says i have ATI Radeon Xpress 200. How would i go about updating the drivers via the Terminal? Thanks.
[10:38] <Class> red2kic, can you be more specific how can i use lsof in this situation ?
[10:39] <red2kic> Class: Try "lsof /path/to/bin"
[10:40] <marcin__> hello
[10:40] <Class> red2kic, i understand the syntax but as i guess i need to do this for all users ?
[10:40] <rileyp> Drue I dunno I would google it myself eg use search terms lucid ati insatll
[10:40] <rileyp> I always use nvidia
[10:40] <rileyp> sorry
[10:40] <red2kic> Class: It have USER column.
[10:41] <marcin__> BatckTrack 4 file /etc/inittab
[10:41] <marcin__> help
[10:41] <Drue192> rileyp, Thanks man, i found something on the Ubuntu Docs
[10:41] <marcin__> im poland
[10:41] <bc81> !pl | marcin__
[10:42] <rileyp> Drue look in synaptic rather than terminal . But you may need to add a repo first thats why I suggest doing a search
[10:42] <rileyp> Drue192,  no probs ...cheers
[10:51] <red2kic> clear
[10:51] <Tiven> hi, ifconfig keeps showing network interfaces that i removed in network/interfaces and did networking restart
[10:51] <red2kic> Whoops.
[10:52] <erUSUL> Tiven: well it shows them unconfigured; isn't it?
[10:52] <riaku> anyone here good at debugging networks?
[10:52] <Tiven> no it shows that they are up, i ifdown them and it says that they arent active
[10:53] <Tiven> and i try to make a new interface with their IPs, etc (trying to ipv6 tunnel) and i get some odd error about buffer that trully means interface in use or something
[10:53] <erUSUL> Tiven: paste the output of « ip a » ina pastebin
[10:54] <adok> v
[10:54] <adok>
[10:54] <adok>                                        i have bt4 installed, win7 and want to install macosx...is that going to overwrite grub loader settings?
[10:54] <adok> sorry for long post
[10:54] <Tiven> erUSUL http://pastebin.com/GMikMQWM
[10:55] <Tiven> the only available conf on interfaces right now is eth0 and eth0:0
[10:55] <Tiven> which is my 2 IPv4 addresses starting with 109
[10:55] <venilsurya> Does anyone here know some chemistry software that draws molecular orbitals? Not 3d molecules
[10:56] <erUSUL> Tiven: i see the others DOWN or UNKWON which looks resonable ( given than most are "virtual" ifaces )
[10:56] <bullgard4> When booting Ubuntu reported: "EXT3-fs mounted filesystem with ordered data mode". What does "filesystem with ordered data mode" mean? https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Changelog: "Ordered data mode loosely means any system that prevents garbage or stale data blocks after a crash." How can  Ubuntu prevent garbage or stale data blocks after a crash?
[10:57] <Aethelrick> venilsurya, you may find something here... http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~noel/linux4chemistry/
[10:57] <venilsurya> Aethelrick: Thanks, I had that page open
[10:57] <Tiven> erUSUL i have to dash for a couple hours see u later mate
[10:58] <venilsurya> Was just checking to see if anyone was already using something of the sort
[10:58] <sss> I am using a laptop with a small screen. Some application jump up and down when I click them
[10:58] <erUSUL> bullgard4: ext* filesystems support three modes of operation one is ordered data ( the others are writeback and journal ) you can find more details about them in « man mount » ( and probably in wikipedia and other net resources )
[10:59] <bonjoyee> sss: your resolution is not properly set..check system>>pref>>monitors
[11:00] <erUSUL> bullgard4: ordered data is the one that offers more data warantees of no data  loss in a crash becouse it logs the data not only the metadata in the journal
[11:02] <sss> bonjoyee, It's the highest resulution
[11:04] <yuvateja> iam installed 10.04 os in my laptop.there is no sound while playing medis files what i should do?
[11:05] <bonjoyee> sss: but is it the native resolution supported by your screen?
[11:06] <sss> bonjoyee, I think it is.
[11:06] <bullgard4> erUSUL: Understood. --  Thank you very much for your excellent help.
[11:06] <erUSUL> bullgard4: no problem
[11:07] <sss> bonjoyee, I mean it shows and hides the title of the window, causing everything in the window go up and down
 iam installed 10.04 os in my laptop.there is no sound while playing medis files what i should do?
[11:08] <babar_> hey there i need help
[11:08] <bonjoyee> sss: yeah i got that..it happened to me after i got a new monitor..but setting the screen resolution resolved it..
[11:08] <sss> bonjoyee, When I use a lower resolution everything is too big
[11:08] <bjaanes> Hello. Quick question. I have a bash script that does a tar job. How would that work if the tar was run with verbose and executed in the background with "nohup ./script.sh &"?
[11:09] <bjaanes> What happens?
[11:09] <bonjoyee> sss: wait...do you mean the title bars of the windows or the panels hiding?
[11:09] <babar_> i had configured an ldap server and my ubuntu client can tawk to ldapserver but users are not authenticated
[11:09] <sss> bonjoyee, the title bars of the windows.
[11:09] <yuvateja> bonjoyee: where screen resoultion setting are present?
[11:10] <bonjoyee> yuvateja: system>pref>monitors
[11:10] <sss> bonjoyee, the title bars of the windows, only in certain application
[11:11] <bonjoyee> sss: oh..ok...sorry don't know then :(
[11:11] <Aethelrick> bjaanes, I take it you're concerned about the output from your command? if so, then redirect the output to a file
[11:11] <sss> bonjoyee, ok
[11:11] <ircvivek> 1
[11:11] <bjaanes> Aethelrick: ah! ofc! Why didnt I think of that? xD Thanks a ton!
[11:11] <DiagonalArg> Installing Ubuntu over a previous install, which was on a RAID1. Only option on Alternate Installer is "Erase Drive".  Took 30 hours for 168G???  There has _got_ to be a better way!  (Please tell me there is.)
[11:12] <Aethelrick> bjaanes, e.g. ls > ls.txt puts output from ls into a file called ls.txt :)
[11:13] <yuvateja> bonjoyee: i went to monitors then next what?
[11:13] <bonjoyee> yuvateja: select the resolution and apply!
[11:14] <bjaanes> Aethelrick: idd :) Worst of all, i know this, and have used it quite a lot for logging with my automatic scripts -_-  But for some reason I didnt think of it now ^^
[11:14] <madsailor> hello, I'm making some new plymouth themes.  What is the best way to take a screenshot/video of them so people can tell what they are like before installing?
[11:14] <red2kic> DiagonalArg: I never had used RAID1 -- but Erase Drive should be really really quick.
[11:15] <bonjoyee> madsailor: run them in a VM and get screenshots/videos!:)
[11:16] <madsailor> ahh...of course.  Thanks bonjoyee.
[11:16] <DiagonalArg> red2kic: Nope, "Erase Drive" seems to have zeroed out the whole drive, at ... 100MB/s
[11:17] <yuvateja> bonjoyee :iset 16:10 but there is no voice?
[11:17] <bonjoyee> yuvateja: voice?
[11:17] <DiagonalArg> red2kic: oops, no.  I forgot a factor of 60.  So that's 1.6MB/s
[11:18] <madsailor> bonjoyee, any recommendations for a screen video capture program (rather than plain screenshots)
[11:18] <DiagonalArg> What the??
[11:18] <yuvateja> bonjoyee : i install ubuntu 10.04 while opening media files there is no voice.
[11:18] <bonjoyee> madsailor: never used myself..but gtkrecordmydesktop, xvidcap seem good!
[11:18] <red2kic> DiagonalArg: You could ask in #ubuntu-server -- The traffic is slow but you might get some decent answers.
[11:19] <bonjoyee> yuvateja: just when opening media files? or otherwise as well?
[11:19] <DiagonalArg> Ok, thanks red2kic!  Appreciate it.
[11:19] <milamber> !screencast | madsailor
[11:20] <madsailor> thanks milamber
[11:20] <milamber> madsailor: np
[11:21] <Nietecht> After 'a while' after startup, programs begin to randomly stall/freeze temporarily, not all at the same time. Sound and video becomes slow and stutters. I have to reboot to get rid of it.  Any clues?
[11:21] <Nietecht> (Ubuntu 10.10, fairly new to it)
[11:22] <yuvateja> while playing any movies and songs atleast there is no booting sound
[11:22] <bonjoyee> Nietecht: i'd do a memory scan with memtest..
[11:22] <bonjoyee> !sound | yuvateja
[11:22] <yuvateja> bonjoyee:while playing any movies and songs atleast there is no booting sound
[11:23] <verac> Nietecht: check /var/log/messages for issues. run "top" to see obvious errors
[11:23] <Nietecht> bonjoyee: Thanks, I'll do that. I also fear for my hard drive. A possibility?
[11:24] <bonjoyee> Nietecht: possible..also check the logs as verac says..
[11:24] <yuvateja> bonjoyee: while executing command !sound
[11:25] <yuvateja> bonjoyee: while executing command !sound | yuvateja  it shows error event not found.
[11:25] <AbhijiT> hi
[11:25] <AbhijiT> ubuntu no more ships free cds?
[11:26] <bonjoyee> yuvateja: thats not a command...those are links to guides you have to refer..
[11:26] <yuvateja> ubottu: where is the volume applet present?
[11:26] <AbhijiT> i needed them to distribute at my seminar to all teachers and students
[11:27] <YankDownUnder> Download 1 ISO image, make copies of that image?
[11:27] <milamber> AbhijiT: http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[11:27] <AbhijiT> milamber, ohh ok
[11:27] <yuvateja> ubottu: where sound preferncesare present?
[11:29] <milamber> yuvateja: what version of ubuntu?
[11:29] <bonjoyee> ubottu: don't lie..come on..tell him!
[11:30] <sneezebay> I'm looking to install ubuntu on my MBP and every time I have to connect it to the ethernet because it doesn't have the packages for my wireless card. Is there anyway I can download it to a flash drive and install later?
[11:30] <ionut> how can i see what permission has a folder from terminal ?
[11:31] <bonjoyee> ionut: ls -l
[11:31] <yuvateja> milamber,  10.04
[11:31] <AbhijiT> is there anyone handling ubuntu free cd to whome i can talk about a thing?
[11:32] <erUSUL> ionut: ls -ld directory
[11:33] <ionut> erUSUL: i see this " drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2011-02-04 12:22 gogs " please can you help me to understund it ?
[11:33] <erUSUL> !permissions | ionut
[11:33] <Aethelrick> AbhijiT, if you have a question, go ahead and ask it :) you don't need to ask if you can ask!
[11:33] <ionut> erUSUL: thanks a lot
[11:34] <erUSUL> ionut: no problem
[11:34] <AbhijiT> Aethelrick, ok
[11:34] <sneezebay> I'm looking to install ubuntu on my MBP and every time I have to connect it to the ethernet because it doesn't have the packages for my wireless card. Is there anyway I can download it to a flash drive and install later?
[11:34] <bonjoyee> sneezebay: whats an MBP?
[11:35] <Aethelrick> bonjoyee, maybe Mac Book Pro
[11:35] <erUSUL> !offline | sneezebay
[11:36] <JetBoyJetGirl> yo yo yo
[11:39] <howoriginalAU> Hi everyone :)
[11:42] <iqpi> hi howoriginalAU
[11:43] <howoriginalAU> iqpi: hi :)
[11:44] <howoriginalAU> I'm pondering whether or not I should attempt to give up games and completely install Ubuntu over windows (I want to, but I keep thinking about Fallout 3 and going back to it, haha)
[11:44] <iqpi> hahaa
[11:45] <iqpi> perhaps you are lucky and you could run that game over ubuntu with wine
[11:45] <devcorkvince> howoriginalAU: do whats best the game or productivity?
[11:45] <howoriginalAU> devcorkvince: well that's what I've been thinking - unfortunately I don't have a job (but I'm trying to find one), so I'm trying to break the habit before I get one
[11:46] <howoriginalAU> Just so it's an easier transition..
[11:46] <red2kic> howoriginalAU: Get another hard drive. Keep things separate. :)
[11:46] <howoriginalAU> A bit of a silly question to ask in a Ubuntu forum, but I've never really used Linux before and was directed to Ubuntu as a beginner's distro...would you agree with this?
[11:46] <red2kic> howoriginalAU: Yes. I concur.
[11:47] <iqpi> howoriginalAU:  yes, ubuntu is a good one for beginners, but linux mint is even easier
[11:47] <Aethelrick> howoriginalAU, I would suggest ubuntu to anyone looking to run linux, newbies and pros alike :) convenience is not just for newbs :P
[11:47] <howoriginalAU> iqpi: I read something about Linux Mint as well, but I like the idea of support (which after a bit of reading, Ubuntu looks like it has more direct support to offer)
[11:47] <ionut> guys one problem. i have this folder that contains some files and other folders... i applied chmod and changed the permission for folders but not also for files. how can i grant persmission to all users from the terminal ?
[11:48] <sagaci> Of course you can
[11:48] <bullgard4> When I switched on my Lucid computer this morning it reported: "fsck: T43root had been mounted 51 times without check. Check enforced." The result fo the check on the screen has been overwritten. Where can I find the result of this fsck check in some log file?
[11:48] <devcorkvince> ionut: chmod -R
[11:48] <howoriginalAU> Aethelrick: Well I guess everyone so far seems to concur, so I think I will download it
[11:48] <iqpi> howoriginalAU: linux Mint is based on ubuntu, so everything what's capable for ubuntu, will be also capable for Mint too
[11:48] <howoriginalAU> Anyway, I should stop talking about this and detracting from people with actual problems haha
[11:49] <ionut> devcorkvince:  what -R stands for ?
[11:49] <bonjoyee> bullgard4: /var/log/fsck
[11:49] <sagaci> Recursive
[11:49] <multiplatinum> hey guys, upon booting i get randomly disconnected and reconnected for 15 mins, then i stay connected to my wifi, help plz
[11:49] <th_> hello all
[11:49] <devcorkvince> ionut: recursive\
[11:49] <howoriginalAU> iqpi: Oh is that so? Does that mean everything will be the same in terms of commands etc (or something?)
[11:49] <ionut> devcorkvince: but what does this command do ?
[11:49] <devcorkvince> ionut: eg. chmod 755 -R /dir
[11:50] <iqpi> howoriginalAU:  that is
[11:50] <howlymowly> hi poeple..  short question: any idea,  when chromium 9 will be in the ubuntu repositories?
[11:50] <bullgard4> bonjoyee: /var/log/fsck does not exist.
[11:50] <devcorkvince> ionut: it will apply the permission on the dir and all the content inside it
[11:50] <multiplatinum> howlymowly,  a few days after chrome 9 stable came out
[11:50] <howoriginalAU> Well thank you all for helping me make my decision - perhaps I should document the transition hahaha
[11:50] <ionut> devcorkvince: good , thanks
[11:50] <howlymowly> kk multiplatinum thx..
[11:50] <sagaci> When it's packaged
[11:50] <iqpi> perhaps the only change wil be the repositories name, the other things, always the same
[11:50] <bonjoyee> bullgard4: its a folder..checked inside it?
[11:51] <devcorkvince> ionut: no prob
[11:51] <iqpi> shit, i am running out of battery
[11:51] <th_> haha
[11:51] <Aethelrick> ionut, you can also use a combination of find and chmod if you want a little more precision e.g. find -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; or find -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; for instance (change the find part to suit your needs)
[11:52] <coz_> iqpi,   I think you meant to say  "Caca... I am running out of battery"  << family friendly
[11:52] <milamber> yuvateja: system >> preferences >> sound
[11:52] <erUSUL> bonjoyee: bullgard4 the results are lost since the change to upstart ....
[11:52] <iqpi> coz_: well, more than caca, mierda should be a better expresion to show what i feel
[11:52] <bullgard4> bonjoyee: In /var/log/fsck there are 2 files. Both are dated 2010-09-18 and do not include today's information.
[11:52] <coz_> iqpi,   :)
[11:53] <sagaci> Charge it
[11:53] <erUSUL> bonjoyee: bullgard4 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/513644
[11:53] <bullgard4> erUSUL: I see. --  Thank you very much for your information.
[11:53] <howoriginalAU> Okay - the same friend who just referred me also said that I should ask whether or not I should download something called LTS or the non-LTS version (sorry I don't really know what he means)
[11:53] <bonjoyee> bullgard4: well that was the best place to look into...
[11:53] <red2kic> !lts | howoriginalAU
[11:53] <Aethelrick> howoriginalAU, LTS = long term support
[11:53] <iqpi> that happens when you trust on your 10.5 h battery-life-capable-netbook and you use it without charging it for 9 hours xDDD
[11:54] <ionut> Aethelrick: good point . that was what i wanted to do.i applied chmod 777
[11:54] <howoriginalAU> Oh right, so that seems to be what I want since I hate reinstalling
[11:54] <Aethelrick> howoriginalAU, use long term support release if you value stability over newness
[11:54] <iqpi> then yes howoriginalAU
[11:54] <red2kic> howoriginalAU: Regular cycles are six months apart.
[11:55] <bonjoyee> iqpi: actually its ubuntu....it makes people forget more important things in life!;)
[11:55] <howoriginalAU> Decisions decisions, haha - you'll have to forgive a Windows user for being out of his comfort zone.....
[11:55] <iqpi> sorry bonjoyee i haven't undertand that, english is not my native language
[11:56] <bonjoyee> iqpi: not mine either:-D
[11:56] <iqpi> howoriginalAU: you could try a rolling release distro
[11:57] <milamber> howoriginalAU: you can download the live cd and try it before you commit
[11:57] <bullgard4> erUSUL, bonjoyee: I added a comment to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/513644. --  Thank you again.
[11:57] <iqpi> bonjoyee: then i guess you wanted to say that they are more worried in programs versions than in use them?
[11:58] <milamber> howoriginalAU: also, you will be automatically notified when the next LTS is out
[11:58] <howoriginalAU> milamber: Oh I see, so I can just update to it when it comes out?
[11:58] <zhangqi> ddsfsdf\
[11:58] <replicasex> Can anyone help me with a very irritating font problem?  I installed the kubuntu-desktop package on a whim and upon my deleting it my fonts in Chrome and FF have been totally messed up.  I have no idea what it's using but it's very ugly and not at all how it used to be.
[11:58] <Aethelrick> howoriginalAU, yup indeedy, upgrading to next release is basically a click...
[11:58] <iqpi> howoriginalAU:  yes you can, but i don't advise you to do it
[11:58] <zhangqi> anybody here?
[11:59] <sagaci> Yes
[11:59] <milamber> howoriginalAU: yes. you can set the option to upgrade to each new release or just the lts releases. it is always recommended to back up your data though :)
[11:59] <sagaci> 1450 people
[11:59] <replicasex> anybody know how i would get back to the original gnome font configuration after kde had its way with me?
[11:59] <iqpi> replicasex: in the kde control panel you can manage fonts
[11:59] <replicasex> iqpi, I've already deleted kde.
[12:00] <iqpi> then purge it
[12:00] <replicasex> This is a post-deletion issue.  It's had its way with my fonts and gone and left me.
[12:00] <iqpi> sudo apt-get -purge kde
[12:00] <iqpi> purge
[12:00] <iqpi> not -purge
[12:00] <replicasex> iqpi, I thought I did, there doesn't seem to be anything left.
[12:00] <zhangqi> How many people is chinese
[12:00] <howoriginalAU> Haha a couple of conflicting opinions - milamber I maintain what I hope is a thorough backup system (which touch wood will continue to work). Aethelrick - seems like it's an easy process, but do things often go wrong (or is it just a precaution to ensure my files are all safe)
[12:01] <replicasex> iqpi, doing that removed a few things but the fonts are still very, shall we say, painful.
[12:01] <bullgard4> zhangqi: 1.2*10^9
[12:01] <iqpi> perhaps if you reinstall kde you could manage fonts from there
[12:01] <howoriginalAU> I'm just looking at rolling releases someone suggested earlier (thanks wikipedia)
[12:01] <replicasex> in a guest account for example everything looks fine
[12:02] <howoriginalAU> It looks quite tempting to constantly upgrade without a reinstall
[12:02] <howoriginalAU> I'm guessing Ubuntu doesn't have this feature though
[12:02] <red2kic> replicasex: Try this. "killall firefox ; mv ~/.fonts.conf ~/.fonts.conf.bak"
[12:02] <zhangqi> 一二三四五六七八
[12:02] <replicasex> i'm not using firefox.
[12:02] <iqpi> lol
[12:03] <zhangqi> 快速的放假啊速度放假啊类似的就法拉快速的法律框架阿迪所了疯狂加为饿哦就速度哦精彩哦
[12:03] <zhangqi> 叫阿送到了窥间伺隙联盟
[12:03] <red2kic> replicasex: Okay. Just execute it. I guess.
[12:03] <YouKay> !cn | zhangqi
[12:03] <iqpi> @_@ zhangqi  please, western characters
[12:03] <popey> howoriginalAU: we don't do rolling releases, no
[12:03] <VCoolio> howoriginalAU: ubuntu (and debian) are quite slow on implementing updated software, but you can always add repos that have newer stuff; most users only need new versions of just a few apps, you can have that in ubuntu too
[12:04] <zhangqi> join #ubuntu-cn
[12:04] <replicasex> So no ideas?  Is there no file I can delete and regenerate to get out the clutter?
[12:04] <howoriginalAU> Oh right
[12:04] <iqpi> zhangqi:  put like this ---/join #ubuntu-cn but without ----
[12:05] <howoriginalAU> I'm thinking it's probably best if I just start with the newest edition of Ubuntu and then learn from there, all of this is a bit overwhelming so far heh
[12:05] <sagaci> 10.10
[12:05] <JeroenDeDauw> I put in a new disk in my pc (already had one in there) and just formatted it as ext4. It's not showing up anywhere. I figured I needed to mount it, but when I do mount /dev/sdb1 (got the name from fdisk -l), I get an error. Am I doing it wrong? :p
[12:05] <milamber> howoriginalAU: i have had pretty good success with updates. but as was stated. proper backups are always important
[12:06] <VCoolio> JeroenDeDauw: what error? you'll need root permissions, and to make it permanent add a line to /etc/fstab
[12:06] <iqpi> JeroenDeDauw: you have to mount in a mount point. For example, create a folder called:
[12:06] <iqpi> Jordan_U: second-disk
[12:07] <iqpi> in you home
[12:07] <iqpi> then execute : sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /home/your-user/second-disk
[12:07] <Guest17739> hello
[12:07] <iqpi> and you will have your disk available from second-disk  folder
[12:08] <muppis> I want to use hostwappable sata in server. How I make it automounted like usb-keys in desktop ?
[12:08] <howoriginalAU> milamber: well I always remember to do backups whenever I do anything important, so I think you might have sold me on Ubuntu (along with all the other comments from all these other helpful people :) )
[12:09] <howoriginalAU> Oops
[12:10] <howoriginalAU> Well as much as I like playing games on Windows, I think I might give them away to pave way for productivity
[12:10] <howoriginalAU> Thanks for the help guys, I guess I'll try and get on here again after the install
[12:10] <milamber> howoriginalAU: if when you download the !livecd make sure to follow the instructions closely, check the sums, and burn slowly.
[12:10] <SchopfeR> what do you think of Unity ?
[12:10] <iqpi> you could try nexuiz on linux, you will get addict xDD
[12:11] <milamber> howoriginalAU: there is always the !dualboot option
[12:11] <gordonjcp> howoriginalAU: depending on which games you play, you might find there are Linux native ports, or they work just fine in Wine ;-)
[12:11] <howoriginalAU> milamber: thanks for the tips, ubuntu looks it has some good instructions on the websites
[12:11] <gordonjcp> howoriginalAU: I like HL2, works perfectly in wine
[12:11] <gordonjcp> howoriginalAU: the framerate is a bit slow and the rendering is a bit buggy in places but I blame my eldery Geforce 7300 for that ;-)
[12:11] <gordonjcp> *elderly
[12:12] <howoriginalAU> gordonjcp: well the problem is not so much the individual games as a whole, it's also part of a personal project to give up video games - but we'll see how well I go. I have HL2 so if I falter I might put that on there. I also read that Amnesia was actually a Linux native game before it became available for Windows, so that might be worth getting
[12:12] <howoriginalAU> Anyway, I'll be back soon I hope!
[12:12] <gordonjcp> howoriginalAU: if you *really* want to be sure, go and buy a new hard disk and do a totally clean install
[12:12] <iqpi> if you play idsoftware games, there are original native support forr linux
[12:12] <gordonjcp> hard disks are cheap
[12:12] <replicasex> iqpi, apparently renaming .fonts.conf was all I needed to do.
[12:13] <Wipster> afternoon all, from the to time my laptop screen when I am rotating my deskop cube will freeze and I cant even switch to a lower run level, its in that state currently and I am SSH'd into it, the i915_error_state says no state collected and Xorg.0.log doesn't say anything odd. What else can I look at to debug it? I am runing ubuntu 10.04.2 with xorg-edgers ppa installed mesa 7.11-devel
[12:13] <iqpi> that was so easy that i did not thought about it. Congratulations for show us (at least to me) new information :D
[12:13] <howoriginalAU> gordonjcp: unfortunately being recently unemployed has left me with no money at all haha, so I guess I'll have to do a good format or something
[12:13] <howoriginalAU> I'm assuming that option is available in the install
[12:14] <milamber> !livecd | howoriginalAU
[12:14] <cryptodira> no errors on install of 64 bit google earth for ubuntu, it will NOT launch... any suggestions?
[12:14] <iqpi> I have 2% remaining battery OMG
[12:14] <iqpi> 10 min xD
[12:14] <howoriginalAU> milamber: Oh I'll be trying it first don't worry :)
[12:14] <sagaci> Cya mate
[12:15] <milamber> howoriginalAU: excellent
[12:15] <Aethelrick> cryptodira, try launching from the console and see if there are no errors there
[12:15] <JeroenDeDauw> iqpi: VCooli: thanks :)
[12:16] <howoriginalAU> Alright, be back soon I guess! Thanks everyone
[12:16] <iqpi> np =)
[12:16] <iqpi> bye howoriginalAU
[12:17] <fooz> Hi, i have a list of bad blocks fetched from badblocks. How can i use fsck to repair the specified blocks and add them to the bad list in the hdd?
[12:18] <PowerTopUser> How can i make the powertop suggestions permanent? :)
[12:19] <iqpi> fooz: i don't know if with fsck you could do that, read the man page, try also with hdparm
[12:19] <iqpi> i would like to help you, but i have run out of battery
[12:19] <iqpi> just one minute left
[12:20] <Drue192> Hey, I have another question. Is ATI Radeon 2100 supported in the latest Ubuntu Disto?
[12:20] <fooz> iqpi: ok i understand :) well i have read that it would be possible with the -t switch and ntfs "fsck -t ntfs"
[12:21] <iqpi> well guys, 0% left, perhaps i have just few second to say you, good bye guys
[12:21] <sagaci> Probably is
[12:21] <Gwar_Trolle> Hey guys, I need some help :'( I have a USB dongle that wont connect to my router. A different adaptor connects to the router just fine, so it's not a router problem. :'( The Dongle is a Ralink 3070 chip
[12:21] <sagaci> Nice, gwar
[12:21] <Gwar_Trolle> Oh, it's U!
[12:21] <Gwar_Trolle> :P
[12:21] <Gwar_Trolle> Help me in twil damiNt sagaci ;)
[12:22] <PowerTopUser> How can i make the powertop suggestions permanent? :)
[12:22] <milamber> Gwar_Trolle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1547195&highlight=3070
[12:24] <sacarlson> Gwar_Trolle: I'm not sure this will work but seems you need to blacklist rt2800usb as seen in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1312068
[12:24] <Gwar_Trolle> sacarlson: I tried that. That let me see the wireless network, but it keeps failing to connect
[12:24] <sacarlson> Gwar_Trolle: ok progress, is your net encrypted?
[12:25] <Wipster> can I increase the dmesg buffer as a boot parameter?
[12:25] <Gwar_Trolle> sacarlson: Yup. WPA. My Wireless card on this connects just fine. (I am talking now ;))
[12:25] <sacarlson> Gwar_Trolle: try the wpa-gui
[12:26] <Gwar_Trolle> sacarlson: What's that? o.0
[12:26] <sacarlson> Gwar_Trolle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=347269
[12:27] <smallfoot-> o
[12:27] <sacarlson> Gwar_Trolle: it's a gui package that uses wpasuplicant so any wifi should work
[12:28] <landingonwater> hmm.. any help to get here. installation issue
[12:28] <sagaci> What issue
[12:29] <landingonwater> well.. win 7. want to install 10.10 alongside it. worked great on my vista laptop. but on my win 7 laptop the ubuntu on the usb stick cana see win 7
[12:30] <landingonwater> is this normal ?
[12:31] <sacarlson> landingonwater: can't see the win 7 partitions?
[12:32] <rams> how can i create flash presentations in ubuntu?what is the s/w needed?
[12:32] <landingonwater> sacarlson: i can see the ntfs partition, but the install wizard dont cath It, so no option to resize
[12:32] <landingonwater> sacarlson: i just thought in 7 used the same bootloader as vista
[12:33] <red2kic> rams: Slideshow? Applications --> Office --> OpenOffice (Impress).
[12:33] <AbhijiT> !flash