[10:02] <kidbuntu> chuckyp: no icon shows up. and neither in terminal. but i've succesfully done "sudo apt-get install eclipse-jdt"
[10:02] <Shaye> Hehe, well I will just keep looking, thanks
[10:02] <TVFAR> codezero: there is a driver for Broadcom 4318 wireless in ubuntu but it never worked for me. Ndiswrapper, however works fine for me
[10:02] <xopher> Anyone willing to help me set up a 32bit pbuild env. on my amd64 box running edgy amd64?
[10:03] <kadre> Hi! I installed Ubuntu Edgy via VMWare in Windows since I don't have a working CD/DVD-rom. Installation to the partition went fine, but when I boot my PC it boots directly to Windows XP. Any ideas on how I can install a bootloader? I've got a 100GB HDD, split into three partitions where the 1st is XP, 2nd is Ubuntu and 3rd is swap-space.
[10:03] <chuckyp> kidbuntu, type which eclipse in terminal
[10:03] <Bobrobyn> Does anyone know the difference between 2.6.17-10-386, 2.6.15-27-386, and 2.6.15-23-386 on the GRUB menu?  Because 2.6.17-10-386 won't load...it stalls when it tries to startx, and I'm stuck with a black screen.  However, with the other two, startx works perfectly.  (I just updated to Edgy, btw)
[10:03] <Geoffrey2> ok, would I have any problems installing Edgy from the Desktop CD over top of Dapper?
[10:04] <chuckyp> kadre, well installing it in vmware is a virtual machines
[10:04] <kidbuntu> chuckyp:what do you mean which eclipse?
[10:04] <YBH_1> kadre try c:\boot.ini do a google serach for grub boot.ini
[10:04] <chuckyp> Geoffrey2, not if dapper is up to date.  There is a script in the root of the cd to do it.
[10:04] <chuckyp> kidbuntu, open a terminal and type in which eclipse
[10:04] <cherubiel> !grub | kadre
[10:04] <ubotu> kadre: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager.  I didn't search "waiting for root file system edgy"....
[10:05] <chuckyp> Geoffrey2, check it out first then you could try upgrading to it if you like it.
[10:05] <tim167> hello, I have a problem with my screen going on standby, I made all settings in System>preferences>Power Management and also xset s off, xset -dpms...etc, but still screen is put to sleep after a while
[10:05] <chuckyp> kidbuntu, can you just type it for me and paste the output here.
[10:06] <Tarandus> Could someone please give me a link to a .torrent of Edgy installation CD?
[10:06] <chuckyp> tim167, perhaps the hardware is doing it.  Or a setting in the bios?
[10:06] <kidbuntu> chuckyp: whats the exact command? is it "which eclipse"?
[10:06] <chuckyp> tim167, my monitor does it as well stupid energy start crap.
[10:06] <flo> when i login i get no upper panell ,can someone help me startit?
[10:06] <chuckyp> kidbuntu, yes
[10:06] <chuckyp> flo, gnome-panel
[10:07] <kidbuntu> chuckyp: nothing shows up on terminal.
[10:07] <chuckyp> Tarandus, hold up what type of cpu do you have?
[10:07] <chuckyp> Tarandus, and do you want the desktop cd or the alternate iso?
[10:08] <Shaye> MY current partition is 10 GB and I want to add to it another 10 GB that I have free but Gnome partition editor won't let me resize it, any other way how to do it? I tried using the Live CD Partition editor as well but I still can't.
[10:08] <osama> lol ... I have a package called python-eunuchs ....
[10:08] <chuckyp> kidbuntu, which eclipse-jdt     try that
[10:08] <flo> chuckyp ,i get this error message
[10:08] <flo> I've detected a panel already running,
[10:08] <flo> and will now exit.
[10:08] <Kim^J> Is there a way using apt-get install <package> -d to place them somewhere I decide?
[10:08] <thee> after upgrading to edgy azureus has NAT error.
[10:08] <kidbuntu> chuckyp: still nothing shows up on terminal
[10:08] <salim> hi
[10:08] <Shaye> Kim^J,  there is a way obviously :)
[10:08] <phab> nautilus keeps eating up 40% of my cpu any time i launch it. has anyone had similar issues? (i'm running the amd64 version, 6.10)
[10:08] <tim167> chyckyp: I'll check the bios, if I dont find a solution I have to write a script that moves the mouse now and then, anyone know how I can do this ? thanks
[10:08] <eztk> !fixres
[10:08] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:09] <chuckyp> thee, download the azureus from their site and copy the Azureus2.jar to /usr/share/java
[10:09] <osama> salim: salam
[10:09] <salim> /etc/fstab is with UUID and I dont know anything about it, whatever, the point is I reformatted another partition to another filesystem and now I cant mount it anymore
[10:09] <Tarandus> chuckyp: found http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent and I think this is it
[10:09] <salim> osama salaam :-)
[10:09] <ripper> !bigiron
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bigiron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <chuckyp> Tarandus, yeap
[10:09] <chuckyp> lol
[10:10] <thee> chuckyp, let me see.
[10:10] <Shaye> MY current partition is 10 GB and I want to add to it another 10 GB that I have free but Gnome partition editor won't let me resize it, any other way how to do it? I tried using the Live CD Partition editor as well but I still can't.
[10:10] <FRET> salim, what filesystem?
[10:11] <salim> from jfs to reiserfs
[10:11] <salim> it is another partition where I put some stuff in
[10:11] <FRET> salim, then simply change that in /etc/fstab
[10:11] <salim> the point is, he cant mount it because I guess the uuid is wrong
[10:11] <glick> hey does anyone know what the smallest linux distro is? i mean i want no fancy stuff on it
[10:11] <glick> no X, no servers, etc, etc
[10:12] <mAIJK> Hi! I have the old 6.06 Dapper and whant to upgrade to the new Ubuntu version. Do I have to reinstall everything or is it possible to make an upgrade?
[10:12] <macd> glick, prolly DSL.
[10:12] <salim> mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/d5152d3b-3a94-4e0f-bd82-4711b1a2ab02 does not exist
[10:12] <macd> mAIJK, you can upgrade
[10:12] <FRET> mAIJK, have a look at the channel topic
[10:12] <macd> gksudo update-manager -c
[10:12] <glick> also, can laptops boot without their screens?
[10:12] <macd> glick, sure
[10:12] <macd> headless.
[10:12] <glick> coo
[10:13] <michaels_> my keyboard's sleep button suddenly works since I upgraded to Edgy. How do I make it not work like it used to?
[10:13] <macd> haha
[10:13] <FRET> salim, why dont you just use /dev/hdx or /dev/sdx ?
[10:13] <macd> michaels_, dont press it?
[10:13] <salim> its not my fault, ubuntu did it
[10:13] <glick> that saves a ton of battery juice too i bet
[10:13] <kidbuntu> chuckyp: still nothing shows up on terminal
[10:13] <chuckyp> kidbuntu, how did you install eclipse?
[10:13] <chuckyp> !info eclipse
[10:14] <michaels_> well, macd, the problem is I had it remapped to start a terminal and I use it almost unconsciously now...
[10:14] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[10:14] <FRET> salim, then try to change it
[10:14] <kidbuntu> chuckyp: from the add/remove programs.
[10:14] <salim> ok
[10:14] <FRET> obvioulsy it's wrong
[10:14] <salim> yupp its changed
[10:14] <chuckyp> kidbuntu, try sudo apt-get install eclipse
[10:14] <macd> michaels_, then remap it again?
[10:14] <lwizardl> should hostname -f still say localhost?
[10:15] <salim> its a fresh ubuntu 6.10 I'm using right now
[10:15] <salim> I like it
[10:15] <salim> no I love it :-)
[10:15] <FRET> same here :-)
[10:15] <michaels_> macd, the problem is that it's not mapped in any place I know. not in the regular Keyboard Shortcuts and not in gconf metacity...
[10:15] <salim> ok thx for help
[10:15] <macd> michaels_, well you can change the action of it in power management settings
[10:15] <macd> so that when you press it at least it wont do anything
[10:16] <kaffeewoller> hi
[10:16] <michaels_> nope, can't do that. no such option.
[10:16] <macd> edgy?
[10:16] <kaffeewoller> can ubuntu use the dvi port of an lcd?
[10:17] <chuckyp> kaffeewoller, sure if your vid card can.
[10:17] <michaels_> yep, edgy
[10:17] <thee> chuckyp: that didn't help.
[10:17] <macd> kaffeewoller, sure, youll need to configure it though if its an nvidia or ati youll need to install the driver and make a second card entry
[10:17] <shawty> after upgrading i have lost all my ntfs drives and know my fstab has UUID in it ?? wta the deal ??
[10:17] <macd> michaels_, yes I see that the option is gone now, intresting
[10:17] <macd> michaels_, give me one second and I'll see something
[10:17] <kidbuntu> chukype: that worked. is there anything that i have to edit before using eclipse. so i will not have future problems using it
[10:17] <chuckyp> thee, what didn't?
[10:17] <kidbuntu> chukyp: that worked. is there anything that i have to edit before using eclipse. so i will not have future problems using it
[10:18] <chuckyp> !ntfs > shawty
[10:18] <kaffeewoller> macd: oh. can you point me to some doc on how to do that?
[10:18] <kaffeewoller> i got an ati card
[10:18] <phab> Does anyone else have nautilus eating up 50% CPU constantly?
[10:18] <thee> copying azureus2.jar to /usr/share/java
[10:18] <macd> kaffeewoller, sure goto the ubuntu forums and search for dvi in xorg
[10:18] <chuckyp> shawty, you can still use /dev/hda# in fstab for your ntfs partition
[10:18] <kaffeewoller> ok
[10:18] <macd> and stick your gfx card chipset in there somewhere
[10:18] <kaffeewoller> going.
[10:18] <macd> like nvidia dvi xorg
[10:18] <chuckyp> thee, how did you install azureus?
[10:19] <thee> chuckyp: followed instructions from ubuntuguide.org
[10:19] <michaels_> macd, I'll be right back, trying a little solution I thought up (giving the key a new keysym)
[10:19] <chuckyp> thee, with apt-get/synaptic or did you build from source?
[10:19] <glick> pentium 2 laptops without a screen and no cdrom drive or floppy doesnt require alot of power right?
[10:19] <mirak> phab: I have seen that happen to me
[10:20] <chuckyp> thee, you need the java runtime installed as well.
[10:20] <phab> mirak, have you resorted to killing it each time it does that?
[10:20] <shawty> chuckyp is there a new way of handling ntfs drives in edgy ??
[10:20] <thee> chuckyp: yes i am DLing it now.
[10:20] <mirak> phab: last time I killed it yes
[10:20] <chuckyp> thee, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin   and after that is done sudo update-alternatives --config java Then choose the option that corresponds to J2SE (usually 3rd option).
[10:20] <chuckyp> [edit]
[10:21] <mirak> phab: like I kill explorer when needed ...
[10:21] <phab> mirak, are you on the amd64 version?
[10:21] <mirak> phab: no
[10:21] <chuckyp> shawty, no they just changed fstab to use uuid instead of the /dev/hda# format but you can still add /dev lines in there.
[10:21] <mirak> phab: I have a amd64 though
[10:21] <thee> chuckyp: thanks.
[10:21] <xopher> Is there a way I can disable my system going to suspend by pressing the sleep key of my keyboard? Ive been using it to 'lock screen' before, and I rather liked it that way
[10:22] <chuckyp> shawty, sudo fdisk -l    will get you the list of partition so you can see which /dev/hda# it is
[10:22] <michaels_> not a huge success. got anything for me, macd?
[10:22] <macd> michaels_, I just tried to make a new shortcut
[10:22] <chuckyp> xopher, pop the key off did you check in System > preferences > Power management     general tab?
[10:22] <macd> which would work, but Im not sure of the xblahblah the sleep key uses
[10:22] <xopher> chuckyp, *checking*
[10:23] <michaels_> XF86Standy, macd?
[10:23] <macd> like 0xb2 and 0xb1 are volume
[10:23] <michaels_> oh
[10:23] <bony> i get this error when ever i log in to gnome "unable to determine the address of the message bus" and "Gnome will still try to restart the settings daemon next time you log in".
[10:23] <michaels_> that's keyboard dependant
[10:23] <macd> so sleep outta be 0xsomething
[10:23] <chuckyp> !shortcuts > xopher
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shortcuts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <chuckyp> !shortcut > xopher
[10:23] <michaels_> macd, open a true console, press the key, and look for it in the error message
[10:23] <xopher> chuckyp, wasnt that one, and in gnome-keyboard-shortcuts, nothing has changed
[10:24] <bony> and when i log in with another user the for of the clock changes. I changed the locale settings but i don't remember what i did then ;-(
[10:24] <macd> michaels_, your the one that wants todo it ;P
[10:24] <FRET> chuckyp, where can I get some information about the new fstab-format?
[10:24] <eclectro> What is the minimum system requirements for ubuntu to run well? i.e. processor speed and ram
[10:24] <chuckyp> xopher, system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts   ???
[10:24] <macd> eclectro, p3 of 700mhz and a 32mb gfx card and Id say 128mb ram
[10:24] <macd> should be fine
[10:24] <shawty> chuckyp , thanks for that wat does the uuid actually do ??
[10:24] <xopher> eclectro, it runs, just choose the WM/DE according to your system capabilities
[10:24] <xopher> chuckyp, yes
[10:24] <macd> above spec were for gnome!
[10:24] <kidbuntu> how do i install the latest firefox version
[10:25] <chuckyp> shawty, its just a different way of referencing it.
[10:25] <chuckyp> kidbuntu, are you runing edgy?
[10:25] <eclectro> thanks, just needed ballpark
[10:25] <kidbuntu> chuckyp: no
[10:26] <FRET> chuckyp, where can I find some informatoin about this new method of referencing harddrives?
[10:26] <michaels_> damn key went off on me even in true console
[10:26] <chuckyp> kidbuntu, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283162&highlight=firefox%202
[10:26] <michaels_> macd, ever seen this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27039?
[10:26] <macd> michaels_, honestly I'd file a bug with "no way to disable sleep key
[10:26] <michaels_> *this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27039 ?
[10:27] <macd> havent seen the post but Im familiar with the methods therein
[10:27] <michaels_> I guess I'll do that and get me a new Term key for now... =\
[10:27] <chuckyp> FRET, http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:pM7b0dhtbqcJ:www.linux.com/article.pl%3Fsid%3D06/09/18/1623244+ubuntu+UUID&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10&client=firefox-a
[10:27] <macd> I use alt+t
[10:28] <macd> crtl alt t rather
[10:28] <geniusvicks> When I try to create a symbolic link to java plugin I get an error saying "Operation not permitted"
[10:28] <macd> alt t by itself would be bad ;P
[10:28] <macd> geniusvicks, sudo
[10:28] <FRET> chuckyp, thx
[10:28] <krpano> anyone here uses bluetooth ?
[10:28] <geniusvicks> macd I did that too
[10:28] <kidbuntu> how do i upgrade from 6.06 LTS to 6.10 edgy through the net?
[10:28] <krpano> i cant find the Bluetooth Manager
[10:28] <chuckyp> FRET, yeah if you scroll down a bit there is a discussion about it.
[10:28] <chuckyp> !upgrade > kidbuntu
[10:29] <chuckyp> kidbuntu, /topic
[10:29] <geniusvicks> This is what I typed :sudo ln -s /media/hda4/java/jre1.5.0_06/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[10:29] <macd> geniusvicks, well that make no sense at all, can you pastebin your exact error.
[10:29] <newbie001> so... after some google I found some people having the "waiting for root filesystem" problem in some systems
[10:29] <Foc> kidbuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[10:29] <macd> geniusvicks, what are you linking it to ;P
[10:29] <newbie001> so I rebooted and see what happened
[10:29] <geniusvicks> to /media/hda4/firefox/plugins
[10:29] <rwscold> ok guys i was just in here and was asking about my ati card and the drivers i was told to install the fglrx drivers i did and they dont work! What can i do btw I am running edgy
[10:29] <geniusvicks> this is the output: ln: creating symbolic link `./libjavaplugin_oji.so' to `/media/hda4/java/jre1.5.0_06/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so': Operation not permitted
[10:30] <[bash] > I installed apache, php and mysql from synaptic package manager. Now I started Apache, and I tried to open a php page but it dosn't open.
[10:30] <chuckyp> krpano, bluez-utils   ??? is that what you are looking for?
[10:30] <newbie001> after a while I was dropped to a strange bash (initramfs or something like that)
[10:30] <chuckyp> !bluetooth > krpano
[10:30] <macd> geniusvicks, you cant create a link to a file that already exists
[10:30] <savvas> hello :\ i can't see my gnome bars, i tried restarting, but still the same
[10:30] <krpano> chuckyp, ill chekc it ou
[10:30] <geniusvicks> macd what does that mean?
[10:31] <|thunder-away> savvas; try alt-F2 then 'killall gome-panel'
[10:31] <newbie001> the thing is this: my root file system doesn't get mounted when booting with generic kernels
[10:31] <rwscold> ok guys i was just in here and was asking about my ati card and the drivers i was told to install the fglrx drivers i did and they dont work! What can i do btw I am running edgy
[10:31] <macd> that means you cant link /path/to/file to /path/to/file
[10:31] <macd> your destination of the link cant exist yet
[10:31] <chuckyp> geniusvicks, man ln
[10:31] <anilruby> I want to upgrade from my current breezy to dapper, I have dapper live install cd, my net connection is 64kbps, how?
[10:31] <macd> chuckyp, that too ;P
[10:31] <newbie001> the /var/log isn't mounted... so there are no logs
[10:31] <chuckyp> anilruby, /topic
[10:32] <geniusvicks> chuckyp, I want to get java plugin into firefox
[10:32] <savvas> ah cool you saved me from a reformat
[10:32] <|thunder-away> macd; your confusing people. you mean a link is created to an already existing file.
[10:32] <savvas> :)
[10:32] <chuckyp> !java > geniusvicks
[10:32] <krpano> chuckyp , i have that...but i dont see the BT manager
[10:32] <|thunder-away> savvas; worked ?
[10:32] <anilruby> chuckyp, tell me how?
[10:32] <macd> no I mean you cant create a link to an already existing file
[10:32] <baliw> !java
[10:32] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:32] <osama> azureus says DEBUG::Sat Oct 28 11:34:58 AST 2006::org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.Initializer::run::304:
[10:32] <osama>   java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/gnu/gtk/IconTheme
[10:32] <|thunder-away> macd; bull.
[10:32] <anilruby> I want to upgrade from my current breezy to dapper, I have dapper live install cd, my net connection is 64kbps, how?
[10:32] <baliw> !macromedia
[10:32] <chuckyp> krpano, not sure I don't use it I know it shows up in edgy by default I believe hold up let me check something
[10:32] <|thunder-away> macd; thats what its for
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macromedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <macd> no its not!
[10:32] <newbie001> should I file a bug?
[10:32] <anilruby> chuckyp, tell me how
[10:33] <krpano> chuckyp , oki doki
[10:33] <macd> you cant link a existing file to another existing file
[10:33] <macd> thats not what a link is
[10:33] <anilruby> chuckyp, tell me
[10:33] <baliw> how do I change my browser and install macromedia?
[10:33] <savvas> |thunder-away: yep, but i did it with alt-f3 (custom shortcut to run terminal). it couldn't find a process to kill, so i just executed gnome-panel and it reappeared
[10:33] <|thunder-away> macd; no? I have a soft link on my desktop pointing to my music on a fat32 drive.  it existed before I installed ubuntu
[10:33] <|thunder-away> savvas; sweet. :)
[10:34] <savvas> alt-f2 doesn't work though
[10:34] <anilruby> tell me how should I upgrade from breezy to dapper
[10:34] <macd> |thunder-away, I guess your not understanding
[10:34] <anilruby> I want to upgrade from my current breezy to dapper, I have dapper live install cd, my net connection is 64kbps, how?
[10:34] <savvas> (it does now that it's back to normal:P)
[10:34] <savvas> thank you thank you thank you lol
[10:34] <macd> if the destination of the linked file already exists as a file the link will not be created
[10:34] <chuckyp> krpano, I can't find it I know its in Administration > services  Unless you disabled it or you don't have it.
[10:34] <michaels_> well macd, here it is: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/68800
[10:34] <chuckyp> anilruby, tell you what?
[10:34] <anilruby> hey all, please answer
[10:34] <eztk> hmmm. has anyone had luck getting Beryl to work with Edgy?
[10:34] <anilruby> I want to upgrade from my current breezy to dapper, I have dapper live install cd, my net connection is 64kbps, how?
[10:34] <Rookie_> !upgrade
[10:34] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[10:34] <|thunder-away> macd; guess not. hence the afforementioned 'confusing'
[10:34] <|thunder-away> im outtie
[10:34] <baliw> anybody? what's a good browser to use?
[10:34] <krpano> chuckyp , ok....thx
[10:34] <macd> I thought my wording to be completely clear, but to each their own
[10:35] <chuckyp> anilruby, I did answer you read the /topic of the channel type in /topic as your next message
[10:35] <macd> nice@ michaels_
[10:35] <chuckyp> !upgrade | anilruby
[10:35] <osama> baliw: firefox
[10:35] <ubotu> anilruby: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[10:35] <AlanHaggai> baliw try Opera or Firefox
[10:35] <Rookie_> !upgrade > anilruby
[10:35] <co_bdg> alo
[10:35] <macd> I think anilruby is complaining about his download speed moreless
[10:35] <AlanHaggai> I am having a problem with Firefox
[10:35] <baliw> thanks. my problem is, it needs macromedia. i'm not sure how to install it
[10:35] <chuckyp> !flash > baliw
[10:36] <baliw> i tried, and obviously failed (since it doesnt work)
[10:36] <ripper> baliw use automatix or automatix2 :)
[10:36] <baliw> !flash
[10:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:36] <osama> my firfox icon just changed to the real one ... click ..... it's 2.0
[10:36] <chuckyp> baliw, no don't use automatix
[10:36] <anilruby> thanks chuckyp
[10:36] <chuckyp> ripper, don't use automatix
[10:36] <chuckyp> anilruby, np
[10:36] <AlanHaggai> when I type any text in textboxes in Firefox, my cursor gets replicated
[10:36] <osama> homepage says Welcome to Ubuntu 6.10, Edgy Eft!
[10:36] <osama> :)
[10:36] <anilruby> !upgrade
[10:36] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[10:36] <jhaquo> what are good html/php editors like dreamweaver but for linux please? (with auto completion)
[10:37] <chuckyp> jhaquo, NVU
[10:37] <macd> jhaquo, komodo
[10:37] <anilruby> hi
[10:37] <chuckyp> macd, whats the fish one
[10:37] <jhaquo> thnaks
[10:37] <Kameli> Why my installation stops, it has maked my home about half hour now, home is 135gb and root 50gb and it did root under one minute, and when it's making home PC Speaker says "BEEB" and prosents don't move.
[10:37] <baliw> will check out the links. thanks guys.
[10:37] <macd> blufish
[10:37] <macd> bluefish is pretty lightweight
[10:37] <camilo> hi there
[10:37] <AlanHaggai> when I type any text in textboxes in Firefox, my cursor gets replicated. Why is it so?
[10:37] <chuckyp> baliw, np I don't recomend using automatix can bork some stuff
[10:38] <chuckyp> AlanHaggai, replicated?
[10:38] <baliw> noted chuckyp
[10:38] <Madeye> should ubuntu detect new upgrades when I insert Edgy cd?
[10:38] <chuckyp> baliw, if you checkout the desktop guide that will help you installing most stuff
[10:38] <baliw> is it possible to play gunbound with this? i havent' found any document about it
[10:38] <mirak> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:38] <mirak>  /var/cache/apt/archives/v4l-conf_3.95-4ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:38] <AlanHaggai> chuckyp , when I type, there is no problem. But when I go back through the text with the arrow keys, my cursor gets replicated
[10:39] <macd> mirak, you can force it to install, but thats not the recommended way.
[10:39] <nbound> how do i mount an extra hard disk in edgy? the hard drive thing in admin from dapper is gone :S
[10:39] <chuckyp> baliw, https://help.ubuntu.com/
[10:39] <chuckyp> baliw, the desktop guide
[10:39] <mirak> macd: it's not normal it's failing
[10:39] <macd> nbound, its still there new name
[10:39] <cherubiel> !mount
[10:39] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:39] <eztk> did anyone have lucky getting beryl to work with ubuntu edgy ?!
[10:39] <macd> mirak, then man dpkg and see howto force it.
[10:39] <macd> eztk, yes with nvidia.
[10:39] <eztk> seems to lose window decorations when I run it.. and it freezes
[10:39] <camilo> listen, i have a usb to serial converter,  anybody know how to make it work ???
[10:39] <macd> the beryl wiki has a very good howto.
[10:40] <baliw> chuckyp> thanks so much. I'm new with ubuntu, and I sure appreciate your help
[10:40] <mirak> macd: no I mean it's not normal that ubuntu devs let this kind of bug happen
[10:40] <eztk> macd: i have to presumably use aiglx as it comes with edgy, and I also have an nvidia card
[10:40] <ripper> macd what is the new name for the disk management?
[10:40] <nbound> macd, cherubiel, no thats not there :S
[10:40] <macd> eztk, aiglx is for ati
[10:40] <eztk> macd: well, i followed the wiki to the letter.. it didnt help
[10:40] <chuckyp> baliw, anytime
[10:40] <eztk> macd: AHhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:40] <nbound> ripper, thats what im after too :(
[10:40] <eztk> macd: why the hell couldnt they make that clear
[10:40] <valehru> Hey guys, I have just bought a AMD Turion 54 Laptop, I take it that Ubuntu 64 bit image would support this better?
[10:40] <macd> I wrote half the wiki
[10:40] <macd> I hope its clear
[10:40] <lillpelle> macd: I use aiglx and beryl with my nvidia card without problems
[10:40] <baliw> thanks everyone, i'm off on a reading spree. be back later ;)
[10:40] <valehru> also does the open flash libs work in ubuntu 64?
[10:40] <jhaquo> the latest php is 5 or 6 ?
[10:40] <macd> lillpelle, theres no need to
[10:41] <eztk> macd: ok, well it needs to make clear the difference between aiglx and xgl
[10:41] <macd> beryl runs on xorg
[10:41] <valehru> jhaquo, 6
[10:41] <ripper> i wonder if beryl will work on an onboard i810 chipset
[10:41] <chuckyp> baliw, cya definately check out that guide will answer plenty of questions
[10:41] <eztk> macd: i thought aiglx was a better version of aiglx that came as standar with edgy
[10:41] <macd> there is no need for xgl or aiglx
[10:41] <Zoolie> hi a quick question sry but i dont have time to check it,is edgy eft use xgl or aixgl in default?
[10:41] <chuckyp> ripper, /j #ubuntu-xgl
[10:41] <eztk> macd: i mean glx
[10:41] <lillpelle> macd: oh, cool
[10:41] <macd> theres no need for it
[10:41] <macd> xorg 7.1
[10:41] <valehru> jhaquo, 6 is in development, 5 is the current version.
[10:41] <macd> beryl runs without xgl
[10:41] <nbound> what is the new name for the disk management?   I was looking for it as well.
[10:42] <camilo> how do i make a usb to seria converter work on dapper ??
[10:42] <macd> ripper, not on the poo ati card ;P
[10:42] <Zoolie> and beryl is default in edgy? out of box? and can spin desktop?
[10:42] <macd> eztk, did you read the wiki, b/c you need more than that....
[10:42] <jhaquo> ok thx valehru
[10:42] <ripper> macd yeah it is pretty poo poo
[10:42] <eztk> macd: doesnt seem to help.. when i run beryl-manager it loses window decorations (gnome) and freezes
[10:42] <nbound> chuckyp, damn i need it... my backups on another hard disk =O, can u get it from synaptic?
[10:42] <macd> eztk, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[10:42] <macd> read that.
[10:42] <eztk> macd: ill have another look. i managed to get compiz to work and beryl in dapper....
[10:42] <mirak> couldn't apt invoke meld for exemple to merge graphically differencies in configuration files
[10:42] <eztk> macd: thanks
[10:42] <macd> np.
[10:42] <macd> pay close attention to the final steps
[10:42] <chuckyp> camilo, http://www.google.com/search?q=serial+to+usb+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[10:43] <epsilon[HU] > lol :D
[10:43] <chuckyp> camilo, or try the forums for more specific hardware questios
[10:43] <chuckyp> epsilon[HU] , like that.
[10:43] <chuckyp> :)
[10:43] <jhaquo> zomg i installed apache AND php, im so leet(...)
[10:43] <leafw> anyone on powerpc can comment on apps taking 15 minutes to launch after waking up from sleep ?
[10:44] <CarinArr> hey, i'm on a desktop machine with a 64bit atlon processor.. i'm running ubuntu 32 bit though, and i've always used k7 kernel, i notice it's now "obsolete" and referring to the generic one instead, so should i be using that one rather than 386?
[10:44] <macd> does anyone actualy have usplash working in edgy?
[10:44] <macd> or does everyone get the blackness?
[10:44] <chuckyp> CarinArr, yes if you want to stay 32bit use linux-image-generic
[10:44] <macd> CarinArr, just use the generic, everything has been merged.
[10:44] <Madeye> I just downloaded the CD, is it better to upgrade or fresh install ?
[10:44] <chuckyp> CarinArr, it will pick the appropriate kenrel for your cpu
[10:44] <leafw> macd : usplash works here (powerbook)
[10:44] <chuckyp> Madeye, I always fresh install but you can upgrade using the cd if you wanted.
[10:45] <macd> leafw, mind pasting your grub?
[10:45] <ivx> what does everyone think of the new version?
[10:45] <camilo> chuckyp i've googled a lot, but no clue
[10:45] <chuckyp> ivx, it is the work of satan
[10:45] <CromagDK> created in ANGER!
[10:45] <chuckyp> camilo, I would post in the forums or search there.  forums.ubuntu.org
[10:45] <eztk> macd: just blackness
[10:45] <CarinArr> chuckyp, macd: thanks:)
[10:45] <ivx> chuckyp why do you say that
[10:45] <leafw> macd : yaboot here
[10:45] <music_man_nz> Hi. I can't delete a program from my menu. It is under "Other". The program has been deleted but still appears
[10:46] <camilo> chuckyp, thnx, ill try
[10:46] <macd> leafw, ahh yes....
[10:46] <madscience> Can someone help me with an error I get trying to run a script for acpi?
[10:46] <music_man_nz> Any ideas please?
[10:46] <macd> music_man_nz, system -- preferences --menu layout
[10:46] <chuckyp> music_man_nz, System > Preferences > Menu Layout
[10:46] <chuckyp> macd, lol
[10:46] <macd> to slow ;P
[10:47] <pradeep> macd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28817/
[10:47] <chuckyp> macd, well I had to find the >
[10:47] <macd> but I like the >'s
[10:47] <chuckyp> lol jk
[10:47] <RVman> hi all
[10:47] <music_man_nz> Menu layout?
[10:47] <leafw> anyone on a laptop with edgy experiencing this 15 minute delay before apps can be launched after waking up from suspended?
[10:47] <pradeep> hi RVman
[10:47] <music_man_nz> Menu and Toolbar preferences?
[10:47] <macd> music_man_nz, we just told you exactly what todo
[10:47] <chuckyp> !anyone > leafw
[10:47] <ivx> leafw no but still no broadcom 4318 support!
[10:47] <CarinArr> another thing.. i've noticed that my desktop machine (unlike my laptop) seems to be running fsck every single time i boot (always finds disks clean tho..), and adding a chunk to the boot time
[10:47] <macd> pradeep, and you get usplash in edgy?
[10:47] <leafw> chuckyp ?
[10:47] <pradeep> macd, yes
[10:47] <CarinArr> can i check the frequency of fsdk?
[10:48] <chuckyp> ivx, feisty is going to focux on laptops a lot and wireless alegedly
[10:48] <macd> nice, thx
[10:48] <CarinArr> er fsck
[10:48] <music_man_nz> Sorry I don't get it. I go to System -> Menu and Toolbar Preferences, and then what?
[10:48] <RVman> is it true that its a bit... problematic... to get edgy?
[10:48] <chuckyp> CarinArr, yeah tune2fs
[10:48] <CarinArr> ta chuckyp
[10:48] <leafw> chuckyp : I did ask the "real" question in that sentence and in the previous.
[10:48] <ivx> chuckyp what is feisty
[10:48] <macd> Im still waiting to see whos going to get on the file and settings transfer form windows to ubuntu >:)
[10:48] <macd> ivx, the successor to edgy
[10:49] <retry> feisty fawn
[10:49] <chuckyp> !feisty
[10:49] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu will be codename Feisty Fawn it should be released in April 2007 and so have the release name 7.04. Until released it is beta. Today it is not even alpha. ;-)
[10:49] <macd> that sound so well you know
[10:49] <macd> fiesty fawn
[10:49] <macd> lol
[10:49] <retry> what's G gonna be ?
[10:49] <music_man_nz> Maybe we are on a different version... I can't see a way to delete the entry under "Ohter"
[10:49] <macd> haha
[10:49] <ivx> macd by sucessor you mean what?
[10:49] <chuckyp> gilbert godfrey
[10:49] <macd> ivx, the next release.
[10:49] <macd> I was thinking goofey godfrey
[10:50] <ivx> macd when is that suppost to come out
[10:50] <macd> ivx
[10:50] <macd> !feisty
[10:50] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu will be codename Feisty Fawn it should be released in April 2007 and so have the release name 7.04. Until released it is beta. Today it is not even alpha. ;-)
[10:50] <chuckyp> music_man_nz, do you see the menu layout under system > preferences?
[10:50] <music_man_nz> No
[10:50] <macd> music_man_nz, dapper or edgy?
[10:50] <blind> I'm having a problem upgrading when it gets to x11-common-1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb -- just says error processing it.
[10:50] <music_man_nz> Dapper
[10:50] <chuckyp> what was the name of the menu editor
[10:50] <music_man_nz> I tried to install Edgy but it froze the 4 times I tried
[10:50] <chuckyp> can't remember hold on it will come to me.
[10:50] <macd> blind, use dpkg to force that package then proceed
[10:50] <CarlU> Does anybody know how to install Wormux in Breezy Badger?
[10:50] <ivx> i have to wait till april :(:(
[10:51] <blind> macd: how?
[10:51] <macd> blind man dpkg
[10:51] <macd> read ;)
[10:51] <blind> oh gee thanks
[10:51] <macd> well you wanna be a end user forever or learn?
[10:51] <retry> so i tried to upgrade to edgy and got the perl locales error thing over and over...
[10:51] <retry> how do I avoid that?
[10:51] <macd> retry, thats no problem.
[10:51] <retry> it's not?
[10:51] <macd> just look the other way
[10:51] <macd> no since it still works.
[10:51] <music_man_nz> So you cannot remove menu items in Dapper?
[10:52] <retry> well mine didnt
[10:52] <retry> xserver failed on reboot for one
[10:52] <macd> music_man_nz, use the alacarte menu editor
[10:52] <retry> and I couldnt even get to a tty prompt
[10:52] <music_man_nz> That does not remove entries
[10:52] <chuckyp> music_man_nz, you can i'm trying to remember the name of the app
[10:52] <Shaye> The version of ubuntu that I downloaded, 6.10 Edgy, is a desktop version? there is a different version for servers? how it's working exactly?
[10:52] <retry> and I'm not saying I think the two are related...
[10:52] <macd> retry, that has nothing todo with the perl locales
[10:52] <retry> I know I know
[10:52] <macd> music_man_nz, sure alacarte does! uncheck the box.
[10:52] <retry> well ok good to know that's one less problem then
[10:52] <chuckyp> macd, was that the one that was installed by default?
[10:52] <music_man_nz> It means it doesn't display, but I would like to get rid of it (deletE)
[10:53] <macd> chuckyp, yessir
[10:53] <CarlU> I'm new to Linux, I am trying to install something and the instructions were "Under Linux, enter the Wormux directory, then simply type:" can someone please clarify
[10:53] <chuckyp> macd, I thought it was called somethign else
[10:53] <retry> there was some file it failed to install on upgrade...had to ctl-c past it
[10:53] <chuckyp> macd, gotcah
[10:53] <CarinArr> does anyone know what might cause: tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda2
[10:53] <retry> it continued the install, but then failed out
[10:53] <retry> upon reboot, I had a dead machine
[10:53] <retry> I'm back on dapper now
[10:53] <music_man_nz> btw, does anyone know the command for updating to Edgy?
[10:53] <chuckyp> CarlU, you need to open a terminal then follow the instructions  what are you trying to install by the way?
[10:53] <macd> CarinArr, bas entry in fstab? like ext2 when should be ext3 or resier?
[10:53] <macd> music_man_nz, see the topic
[10:53] <shinobi2> i downloaded 6.10, will the cdrom give me the option to upgrade? currently running 6.06
[10:53] <chuckyp> !upgrade > music_man_nz
[10:53] <retry> music_man_nz, topic
[10:53] <CarlU> thanks chucky, I am trying to install Wormux
[10:53] <macd> why do we even have a topic ?
[10:53] <chuckyp> shinobi2, there is a script in the root of cd
[10:53] <macd> ;)
[10:53] <Shaye> The version of ubuntu that I downloaded, 6.10 Edgy, is a desktop version? there is a different version for servers? how it's working exactly?
[10:53] <chuckyp> !info wormux
[10:54] <ubotu> wormux: A funny fight game on 2D maps. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.4-1 (edgy), package size 381 kB, installed size 1272 kB
[10:54] <music_man_nz> Thanks. Sorry to be pedantic, but I would just like to remove this entry, had a messy uninstall of a program
[10:54] <macd> Shaye, sure install dapper server.
[10:54] <macd> then upgrade to edgy
[10:54] <chuckyp> CarlU, enable universe repo then just sudo apt-get install wormux
[10:54] <CarinArr> macd, could it be because they're fat?
[10:54] <MrRothstein> hi
[10:54] <macd> but Id just use dapper on a server, its much more well stable.
[10:54] <leafw> how to map the command/apple key to control in powerpc? My .xmodmap is ignored, and the Preferences>Keyboard lists only "swap win/*" keys (which in a powerbook is not of any use)
[10:54] <macd> CarinArr, maybee
[10:54] <chuckyp> CarlU, or just use synaptic and search for wormux   you just need to enable universe first.
[10:54] <MrRothstein> anybody find firefox fonts wierd after upgrade?
[10:54] <Shaye> macd, I can't just download Edgy server directly?
[10:54] <shinobi2> chuckyp, i had a problem using apt-get earlier, trying to upgrade, so i ended up downloading the iso.  hope this will not be a problem when i run this script you are talking about
[10:55] <chuckyp> MrRothstein, they are bigger
[10:55] <macd> Shaye, I wouldnt use edgy on a server, its  bad idea.
[10:55] <CarinArr> macd, just wondering as i haven't touched fstab since i installed system
[10:55] <retry> macd, any idea what will happen to the freecontrib PLF repos?
[10:55] <CarlU> I'm trying to install on Breezy though, dun dun :-(
[10:55] <chuckyp> shinobi2, well you should acutally update dapper first then use "update-manager -c"  instead of apt-get
[10:55] <macd> retry, dont use em so I couldnt tell you
[10:55] <retry> why are youon breezy?
[10:55] <blind> This isn't working >:|
[10:55] <Shaye> macd, well OK, thanks
[10:55] <chuckyp> !info wormux breezy
[10:55] <retry> ok macd, thanks anyway
[10:55] <ubotu> Package wormux does not exist in breezy
[10:55] <MrRothstein> are they bigger only in firefox?
[10:55] <CarinArr> anyway
[10:55] <CarinArr> thanks alot
[10:56] <MrRothstein> i mean to get it back to how it used to be should i change the size in firefox?
[10:56] <macd> CarinArr, ohh I didnt see your fstab hasnt been touched
[10:56] <chuckyp> CarlU, well after opening a terminal you use cd to change directory as in cd /path/to/folder   just like in dos
[10:56] <shinobi2> chuckyp, yes, updating dapper failed, that's what i was doing eariler
[10:56] <anilruby> tell me how ubuntu is better than gentoo?
[10:56] <anilruby> tell me how ubuntu is better than gentoo?
[10:56] <macd> CarinArr, how familiar are you with linux?
[10:56] <CarlU> thanks man
[10:56] <jhaquo> is there a usenet client ?
[10:56] <chuckyp> anilruby, don't have to compile every damn thing you want.
[10:56] <macd> anilruby, it installs in under a hour rather than a week?
[10:56] <eztk> jhaquo: I like PAN
[10:56] <jhaquo> you can grab binaries with it?
[10:56] <macd> plus you can roll optimized /debs for everything
[10:56] <chuckyp> anilruby, If I want a new app I don't have to sit there and wait to make it.
[10:56] <music_man_nz> thanks for your help :) I'm going to try install Edgy now
[10:56] <osama> anilruby: :) ask in #gentoo :)
[10:57] <chuckyp> lol
[10:57] <macd> lol
[10:57] <eztk> lol
[10:57] <macd> flamewar ho!!
[10:57] <chuckyp> i'll go ask
[10:57] <macd> I like my use flags dammit!
[10:57] <retry> gentoo is for control freaks that rather tweak their computers than use them to do things
[10:57] <retry> that is the difference
[10:57] <macd> gentooligans
[10:57] <macd> notice the TOOL
[10:57] <blind> Worst upgrade *ever*
[10:57] <anilruby> but gentto performance is very good and better for development, right?
[10:58] <osama> blind: ??? why?
[10:58] <jeeves_Moss> blind:  are you talking about 6.06?
[10:58] <retry> anilruby, prove it
[10:58] <shinobi2> chuckyp, i have 6.06 on /dev/sda6, if i install 6.10 on /dev/sda7, will that work?  my 6.10 is screwed so much that, it will take lots of effort for me to back up my /home for 6.06
[10:58] <macd> anilruby, if you can count thousands of a second then yes
[10:58] <chuckyp> Well they didn't like that in #gentoo
[10:58] <macd> but I sure cant
[10:58] <osama> anilruby: doesn't matter anymore ..... speed difference is not measurable
[10:58] <leafw> anilruby : gentoo is great if your time is worth nothing. That used to be true for all linuxes, until ubuntu and redhat came along.
[10:58] <retry> you can set the same gcc optimizations in any linux OS
[10:58] <anilruby> If you go to #gentoo they everybody will prove it, why should I prove?
[10:58] <retry> and get the same 'performance'
[10:58] <macd> yep
[10:58] <blind> jeeves_Moss: from 6.06 to 6.10
[10:58] <osama> in 386 days it was important to optimize everything
[10:58] <macd> and you can roll your own debs if your that hardcore.
[10:58] <retry> you can customize the kernel to your heart's content in any linux distro
[10:58] <giz--> hi, i used live cd of edgy to install my laptop, but at the grub-update step its freeze, i tried in a terminal and got same freeze, any ideas ?
[10:59] <jeeves_Moss> blind:  how is 6.06?  I'm still threating my laptop with distruction if it dosen't upgrade.
[10:59] <macd> jeeves_Moss, honestly Id stick with dapper
[10:59] <macd> edgy shouldnt really be used on something you plan to use everyday
[10:59] <chuckyp> shinobi2, yeah you could install on a seperate partition.  Also you may want to try moving your /home to a seperate parition if you are really worried bout it.  You could probably do it from a live cd.
[10:59] <macd> unless you are the guru status. ;)
[10:59] <retry> jeeves, my laptop upgrade to 6.10 failed hard
[10:59] <retry> I'm back on dapper for now
[10:59] <retry> gonna dl and burn the live cd and see how it works out
[10:59] <blind> jeeves_Moss: 6.06 is great. i had no problems with 6.06
[10:59] <chuckyp> retry, did you have third party software installed?
[10:59] <retry> then maybe take another stab
[11:00] <retry> uhhh
[11:00] <blind> upgrading to 6.10 is giving me problems out the ass
[11:00] <blind> err.. sorry for the language
[11:00] <retry> nothing of consequence chuckyp
[11:00] <macd> I use automatix (shudder, scream and yell) my upgrade went smooth
[11:00] <kidbuntu> by default. does Eclipse supports the language "Javascript"?
[11:00] <macd> but I actualy know what automatix does ;P
[11:00] <Kameli> How i can update my BIOS?
[11:00] <jeeves_Moss> blind:  ok, thnaks.  as I said, I'm threatining my lappy with a crowbar and a hammer to make it install
[11:00] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, if you don't have third party software installed and if dapper is up to date.  & if you follow the directions i.e. gksu "update-manager -c"  it will work fine.
[11:00] <ROBOd> hello
[11:00] <jhaquo> any way to use nzb files under linux?
[11:00] <macd> Kameli, consult your motherboard manufacturer website.
[11:00] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  you're STILL in here?  WOW!
[11:00] <ROBOd> will firefox 2 bebackported to dapper?
[11:00] <ROBOd> *be backported
[11:00] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, lol I slept a lil bit.
[11:00] <retry> i heard no
[11:00] <macd> ROBOd, I do think so
[11:01] <retry> oh
[11:01] <ROBOd> macd: when? :)
[11:01] <chuckyp> !ff2.0
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ff2.0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <macd> thats something I dont know
[11:01] <retry> well on a forum thread they seemed to think not
[11:01] <geniusvicks> How do I use compiz
[11:01] <blind> !compiz
[11:01] <retry> !firefox 2
[11:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:01] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  awww, and to think I went out with the guys drinking since I last talked to you.  Right now I'm wandering around on Yonge st in downtown Toronto
[11:01] <compudaze> which is better right now? compiz or beryl?
[11:01] <macd> beryl
[11:01] <macd> it doesnt require xgl
[11:02] <macd> runs ontop of xorg 7.1
[11:02] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, I didnt' that last night tonight i'm trying to stay up thats why i'm still here I have to switch to midnight shfit tomorrow.
[11:02] <macd> chuckyp, that bites
[11:02] <kidbuntu> by default. does Eclipse supports the language "Javascript"?
[11:02] <compudaze> does both work with kde?
[11:02] <macd> I went to work thursday at 7am and didnt get home till about midnight fri.
[11:02] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  that reminds me.  as to the update problem I was having, I found that if I launched a second update manager while the first one was displaying the error, I could force it to d-load those 600 or so packages.
[11:02] <macd> jeeves_Moss, it didnt get a lock error?
[11:02] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, lol thats cool.
[11:03] <giz--> which problem can i have to get ubuntu edgy freeze at the grub-update step ? :s
[11:03] <jeeves_Moss> macd:  nope.  I ran both as root.
[11:03] <macd> interesting
[11:03] <retry> oh neat beryl doesn't need XGL?
[11:03] <retry> I didnt know that
[11:03] <macd> retry, yep
[11:03] <zsh> !xgl
[11:03] <retry> will it run on a p3 you think?
[11:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:03] <macd> so it performs extremely well
[11:03] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  I did find out that a loaded BB pistol in your belt is a GOOD thing to have @ 4am downton Toronto!
[11:03] <chuckyp> retry, maybe ask in #ubuntu-xgtl
[11:03] <macd> beryl is really just quinn-compiz hacked up ;P
[11:03] <chuckyp> retry, maybe ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:03] <sacater> hello all, i installed dapper drake, and i want to go to edgy, i did full updates from synaptic, but what now
[11:04] <shinobi2> chuckyp, trying to moving /home using nautilus, froze the laptop.  i'll just use /dev/sda7 then copy /dev/sda6's /home directory over, then delete /dev/sda6 to recover space, however, grub resides on /dev/sda6, does ubuntu live cd have grub recovery?
[11:04] <macd> sacater, read the topic
[11:04] <retry> sacater, topic link
[11:04] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, nah toronto isn't that bad.  I like that city very clean.
[11:04] <jeeves_Moss> sacater:  hold your breath, then beat your computer with a hammer
[11:04] <sacater> kk ty
[11:04] <macd> yeah toronto is nice
[11:04] <macd> I reall ylike seattle
[11:04] <chuckyp> !grub > shinobi2
[11:04] <chemaja> it seems the NVIDIA TNT chipset does not work with either XGL or AIGLX. is this true?
[11:04] <macd> but you know I get the wierd feeling so close to redmond
[11:04] <ubuntux> hi everyone
[11:04] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  lol, well, on church and Queen, it's kinda rough
[11:04] <chuckyp> shinobi2, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[11:04] <jhaquo> ive installed mysql but i cant access it, it says could not connect to host localhost
[11:04] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, yeah.
[11:04] <macd> I threw my ornange badge into a cesspool of college grads ;)
[11:04] <chuckyp> !mysql > jhaquo
[11:04] <jeeves_Moss> jhaquo:  have you tried restarting it?
[11:05] <chemaja> !nvidia > chemaja
[11:05] <retry> this is a mysql help channel now?
[11:05] <chemaja> heh
[11:05] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  are you in T.O?
[11:05] <macd> if its on ubuntu it is ;P
[11:05] <ubuntux> i am trying to compile and install a text editor called Code-Browser in Ubuntu Breezy... the README file says the prerequisite to compile it...
[11:05] <retry> jhaquo, read the error log
[11:05] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, no U.S.  I've just been to toronto a few times.
[11:05] <ubuntux> is that i must have GTK+ >= 2.4
[11:05] <kidbuntu> can eclipse support Javascript Editing?
[11:05] <osama> jhaquo:  /j #mysql .... unless it's a proglem after edgy :)
[11:05] <ubuntux> how will i know if i have it installed?
[11:05] <phab> (/lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory) I'm getting that error when I try to install VMware Server. Any ideas?
[11:05] <macd> ever been to victoria?
[11:05] <jeeves_Moss> lol, cool.  I can wake up in the morning and see the tower (before the smoge coveres it)
[11:05] <Chousuke> ubuntux: you have that.
[11:05] <jhaquo> ok
[11:05] <chuckyp> !info eclipse > kidbuntu
[11:05] <macd> real nice around those parts, denali and whatnot
[11:06] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[11:06] <Chousuke> ubuntux: you just need the -dev packafe too
[11:06] <Fei-Hai> Hi friends
[11:06] <ubuntux> ic.. so what do i need to install then?
[11:06] <blind> I don't know how to force this.. I checked man dpkg and dpkg --force-help and i can't figure it ou
[11:06] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  has any one looked into the "-c" switch on the update page of Ubuntu's upgrades?
[11:06] <blind> t
[11:06] <Chousuke> ubuntux: search for GTK 2 dev with APT
[11:06] <ubuntux> Chousuke, which dev package?
[11:06] <macd> jeeves_Moss, as in?
[11:06] <jeeves_Moss> blind:  how did you do the upgrade to 6.06?  was it the update manager?
[11:07] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, what do you mean looked in to it?
[11:07] <chemaja> so no-one runs a TNT NVIDIA anymore? :-(
[11:07] <Chousuke> it gives something like libgtk2-dev
[11:07] <blind> jeeves_Moss: yes
[11:07] <compudaze> anyone know if http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf will be back up??
[11:07] <macd> chemaja, not I
[11:07] <jeeves_Moss> macd:  when I tried the -c optioin, it says it's not available as a command switch
[11:07] <macd> jeeves_Moss, say what ?!?!!?
[11:07] <chuckyp> compudaze, dunno not an official ubuntu repo
[11:07] <blind> you have to put it in quotes, jeeves_Moss
[11:07] <blind> gksu "update-manager -c"
[11:07] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, you need the quotes
[11:07] <ubuntux> i tried searching for "gtk" at synaptic and it lists so many items and most of the list have the phrase "gtk" on it
[11:07] <macd> if you use gksu
[11:08] <ubuntux> i
[11:08] <chuckyp> ubuntulog, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:08] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  can you tell macd all about the issues I've been having with invoking hte update manager from the command window?
[11:08] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  I DID have the ""s on it
[11:08] <macd> or just the gist of them
[11:08] <ubuntux> Chousuke, i'll try libgtk2-dev
[11:08] <macd> jeeves_Moss, have you tried using aptitude?
[11:08] <macd> to clean things up a bit?
[11:08] <Fei-Hai> I have small problem with WINE and Ubuntu, if anyone has good knowledge with WINE, please PM me :)
[11:08] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, macd that was hours ago and many people ago.  You probably better off starting with where you are at now with macd
[11:09] <chuckyp> Fei-Hai, just ask in here.
[11:09] <jeeves_Moss> macd:  I just forced the update manager, and then once it errors out, I forced a second update manager, and got it to d-load the 600 updates!!!
[11:09] <macd> jeeves_Moss, yeah I got that part, but what if you try apt-get dist-upgrade?
[11:09] <chuckyp> !ask | Fei-Hai
[11:09] <ubotu> Fei-Hai: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:09] <ubuntux> Chousuke: installing libgtk2-dev and dependencies now
[11:09] <macd> and just use a lil sed to change your sources.list to edgy?
[11:09] <jeeves_Moss> macd:  yep, and it says there is nothing to update.
[11:09] <Fei-Hai> Oh
[11:09] <macd> did you change your sources.list?
[11:10] <macd> replace the dappers with edgy
[11:10] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, cat /etc/issue
[11:10] <macd> and apt-get update then dist-upgrade?
[11:10] <ubuntux> Chousuke: will try to compile again as soon as i finish installing it
[11:10] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  5.something.
[11:10] <macd> chuckyp, funny cause my edgy actualy still said dapper ;P
[11:10] <lotusleaf> Fei-Hai: /join #winehq
[11:10] <chuckyp> macd, loll
[11:10] <macd> its been the same box since hoary
[11:11] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, what did it say whne you cat /etc/issue
[11:11] <Fei-Hai> I'm not sure if this is correct place but, I will ask. I keep getting this error while loading Steam in WINE 0.9.9 (WINE crashes thereafter.)
[11:11] <Fei-Hai> err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x7ffdcce4 "loader.c: loader_section" wait timed out in thread 000f, blocked by 0009, retrying (60 sec) err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x7ffdcce4 "loader.c: loader_section" wait timed out in thread 0010, blocked by 0009, retrying (60 sec) err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x7ffdcce4 "loader.c: loader_section" wait timed out in thread 0011, blocked by 0009, retrying (6
[11:11] <macd> Fei-Hai, next time use pastebin please.
[11:11] <welp> o.O
[11:11] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp: Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[11:11] <macd> Fei-Hai, and ask in #wine ;P
[11:11] <Fei-Hai> Oh, thank-you friend.
[11:11] <Fei-Hai> I am noobie :)
[11:12] <Fei-Hai> Forgive me.
[11:12] <macd> jeeves_Moss, does /etc/apt/sources.list have breezy in it or edgy?
[11:12] <mirak> my grub can't put the right device name when updating menu.lst ???
[11:12] <jeeves_Moss> macd:
[11:12] <jeeves_Moss> macd: Breezy
[11:12] <macd> change the breezys to edgy
[11:12] <macd> uncomment all the repos
[11:12] <macd> and run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[11:13] <macd> and I'll bet it goes fine :)
[11:13] <chuckyp> Fei-Hai, follow the instructions here http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554  you can ignore the part about installing wine from source since you already have wine installed.
[11:13] <mAIJK> Hi. My mousewheeldown and mousewheelup have changed with the mouse 4 and mouse5 on my IE3.0 since I upgraded. anyone know how to fix?
[11:13] <chuckyp> Fei-Hai, also make sure you have drivers for your video card installed so that direct rendering is supported.
[11:13] <macd> chuckyp, you seen the ies4linux?
[11:13] <mirak> isn't that a huge bug that my menu.lst is messed for LVM when updating GRUB ?
[11:13] <macd> pretty nice, comes with a wine profile already, real slick
[11:14] <music_man_nz> I have an edgy CD in the computer and I did the cdupgrade command. It still wants to go online and download packages!?
[11:14] <chuckyp> haven't really played with it yet.  I was going to check it out.
[11:14] <macd> not that anyone wants ie6 on linux, but hey webdevs need it ;)
[11:14] <jeeves_Moss> macd:  is there a better WiFi manager?  I find the one installed with this thing SUCKS, and is slower than my mother using the computer.
[11:14] <chuckyp> music_man_nz, it will want to get some probably.
[11:14] <macd> jeeves_Moss, dapper/edgy has netwoprk-manager
[11:14] <macd> which is nice
[11:14] <daniel15> Wifi? I use NetworkManager
[11:14] <music_man_nz> But I already downloaded some 700Mb!
[11:14] <macd> alot like good ole windows zeronconf
[11:14] <chuckyp> music_man_nz, its other stuff that you have installed that isn't on the cdrom
[11:14] <macd> now if I could only learn to type typo free
[11:15] <daniel15> I think I found a bug in the Ubuntu Dapper --> Edgy upgrade
[11:15] <macd> daniel15, welcome to the club
[11:15] <chuckyp> lol
[11:15] <music_man_nz> Hang on. So I could install Ubuntu if I loaded the CD as a live CD and clicked install, and yet I can't install it only off the CD if I load it from within Dapper?
[11:15] <marten_71> anyone that konws how to set ut tor
[11:15] <ubuntux> i have another question...
[11:15] <daniel15> When it installs the new kernel, it doesn't detect the root partition properly
[11:15] <Fei-Hai> Dear chuckyp: I already have successfully installed ATI drivers with support from Ubuntu ATI Wiki. I also checked with the command shown in the tutorial. Would there still be a problem with this?
[11:15] <macd> ask away
[11:16] <jhaquo> Cannot load mysql extension. Please check your PHP configuration. - Documentation <= i get this after installing mysql and phpmyadmin, i cant load phpmyadmin
[11:16] <macd> Dear Fei-Hai , sorry I just couldnt resist using Dear someone
[11:16] <ubuntux> what application program in Ubuntu is available for converting movie format to another format?
[11:16] <macd> ubuntux, I use avidemux
[11:16] <chuckyp> Fei-Hai, no you should be fine with those drivers just continue with the walkthrough.
[11:16] <macd> or DVD::RIP
[11:16] <ubuntux> macd: does avidemux has a GUI?
[11:16] <chuckyp> macd, do you know of a good one for avi to dvd?
[11:17] <chuckyp> macd, I also have to join to avi files into one.
[11:17] <daniel15> Does anyone know how to fix my getty's?
[11:17] <macd> ubuntux yessir
[11:17] <music_man_nz> On Dapper I can't upgrade to Edgy without a huge download (even though I have the 698Mb CD in the computer) and I can't remove menu items
[11:17] <daniel15> When I press CTRL+ALT+F1, nothing happens :(
[11:17] <music_man_nz> I suppose that is good usability
[11:17] <macd> chuckyp, yeah avidemux works
[11:17] <chuckyp> macd, cool i'll have to check itout.
[11:17] <ubuntux> macd: possible to convert quicktime movie to divx?
[11:17] <macd> ubuntux, dunno havent tried that yet
[11:18] <chuckyp> music_man_nz, what happens if you don't let it connect to the internet?
[11:18] <ubuntux> macd: what have you tried converting with avidemux?
[11:18] <retry> music_man_nz, you probably didnt add the cd path to your sources
[11:18] <chuckyp> retry, he's using the script ont he cd.
[11:18] <dxdemetriou> is there any program to make a disk image from my installed ubuntu?
[11:18] <marten_71> what is a good text program
[11:18] <music_man_nz> The DVD Rom drive started going when I did the command
[11:19] <chuckyp> dxdemetriou, linux ghost
[11:19] <retry> hmm
[11:19] <Robert_Town> Hello, does anyone know what changed from 6.6 to 6.10 that would make a wireless card not work when it did before. I did a fresh install of both and on 6.10 my wireless card does not work, on 6.6 it worked on fresh install and showed op once as r01 and in 6.10 itshows up twice once as Wmaster and once as Mlan. In device manager it shows the wireless card and it has 2 entries one as unknown...
[11:19] <Robert_Town> ...device and one as Network Interface. Anyway if I try to configure the card it doesnt see the wireless network though I know my network is up and working as I am using it now on my laptop
[11:19] <retry> i thought you had to use the alt.install disk to upgrade
[11:19] <GnarusLeo> hi! Does anyone know a good replacement for azureus? My azureus is just plain dead! Nothing to do about it ... I need another torrent client :)
[11:19] <music_man_nz> I'll try without having an internet connection. Though I am not looking forward to hours of more downloads when I reconnect. Why should I have to download so much more after install!?
[11:20] <dxdemetriou> chuckyp, the linux ghost isn't for servers with network? I heard about partimage but I don't know if it is good.
[11:20] <retry> GnarusLeo, wine + utorrent :D
[11:20] <ubuntux> macd: how about a gui program to convert an audio format to another audio format (eg. ogg to mp3)
[11:20] <GnarusLeo> retry, hehe, that works?
[11:20] <chuckyp> dxdemetriou, yeah prolly check out partimage
[11:20] <retry> sure does
[11:20] <retry> i think the footprint is STILL smaller than azureus too
[11:20] <GnarusLeo> ok, Ill try it :) Thanks
[11:20] <macd> ubuntux, audacity
[11:20] <chuckyp> music_man_nz, so that your system is up to date.  You could always format and reinstall
[11:20] <music_man_nz> up to date
[11:20] <retry> ubuntux, or sox
[11:20] <vorbote> GnarusLeo: ktorrent
[11:20] <music_man_nz> Edgy was release like 2 days ago and there are already like 500Mb of updates
[11:20] <retry> sox is a great cmdline tool for audio
[11:21] <Sikon> how to make OOo use system font rendering?
[11:21] <retry> it's the ImageMagick of audio
[11:21] <macd> music_man_nz, thats why its the edgy release ;P
[11:21] <chuckyp> music_man_nz, you have applications that are installed that are outside of the cdrom debs.  stuff from universe and multiverse etc... that stuff is not on the normal cd.
[11:21] <macd> if you want stabiility use dapper
[11:21] <leafw> music_man_nz : did you see the bug list? It's endless
[11:21] <vorbote> GnarusLeo: And there are others. I don't recommend the rtorrent version in the repositories though.
[11:21] <music_man_nz> Sigh
[11:21] <retry> the ubuntu release cycle is based on every forth being stable
[11:21] <music_man_nz> I am happy to stay with Dapper so long as I can delete this blasted menu item
[11:22] <leafw> music_man_nz : even though, this is the best ubuntu ever (regarding sleep/awake, boot time, app integration, keyboards)
[11:22] <retry> the one immediately following the stable release is the most unstable
[11:22] <retry> dapper was the latest stable build
[11:22] <chuckyp> music_man_nz, alcarte uncheck the damn thing already
[11:22] <retry> edgy is bleeding edge
[11:22] <music_man_nz> I would like it Gone, not Hidden
[11:22] <ubuntux> ok thanks macd and sox
[11:22] <Sikon> on my computer, OOo doesn't use subpixel rendering
[11:22] <chuckyp> ;jkl ; jdsjk ;a jk;ja sk; lj'asase as l ;atu 3uiop [ asdf
[11:22] <music_man_nz> In Windows it is right click -> delete
[11:22] <ubuntux> and retry
[11:22] <ubuntux> sorry lol
[11:22] <macd> music_man_nz, then goto ~/.gnome/
[11:22] <Sikon> even though it's enabled in both GNOME and KDE
[11:22] <retry> i think the ubuntu team ought to make it more clear
[11:22] <macd> and delete it from the menu
[11:22] <retry> if you are a linux noob, you should stick to dapper
[11:23] <macd> yes@ retry
[11:23] <daniel15> Anyone know how to fix the problem with my getty terminals? When I press CTRL+ALT+F1, I don't get a terminal login prompt
[11:23] <music_man_nz> macd: Thanks, I'll go look
[11:23] <macd> someone give that man/woman a beer!
[11:23] <retry> who was asking about a way to ghost their system?
[11:23] <marten_71> if i like to opend a file in the terminal what do i do
[11:23] <blind> So beryl runs on top of X 7.1.1? So I don't need XGL anymore?
[11:23] <retry> one line of tar will do it ...
[11:23] <retry> that's what macd said blind
[11:23] <leafw> what is the package name for wireless roaming?
[11:23] <music_man_nz> macd: what do I look for?
[11:23] <retry> but the beryl installation wiki says you gotta get XGL
[11:23] <retry> or this other one
[11:23] <chuckyp> marten_71, what kind of file?
[11:23] <macd> music_man_nz, one sec lemme see
[11:24] <Fei-Hai> macd: It still output the same err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection etc. after that tutorial. This was the first tutorial I came to when I tried troubleshooting this over the past week. Sad to say, I'm stuck with no idea.
[11:24] <chuckyp> !wifi > leafw
[11:24] <macd> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[11:24] <blind> retry, well i have XGL & beryl now, but if it just runs on top of X 7.1.1.....
[11:24] <jhaquo> please i need help,when i try to click on a php file on my local server, it downloads it as a file instead of displays it
[11:24] <macd> yes I kinda meant to say xgl
[11:24] <music_man_nz> I have: gnome-vfs ->.trash_entry_cache
[11:24] <macd> or I had a brainfart?
[11:24] <macd> I dunno
[11:24] <macd> I know xgl is merged into xorg7.1 now
[11:24] <retry> jhaquo, that's not an ubuntu issue
[11:24] <retry> that's more apache/php generic webdev
[11:24] <music_man_nz> thats it. I'm doing a fresh ubuntu installation
[11:24] <music_man_nz> sigh
[11:24] <blind> nstall/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL05:22:54
[11:24] <blind> From Beryl Wiki
[11:24] <blind> Jump to: navigation, search
[11:24] <marten_71> chuckyp it is a config
[11:25] <blind> There is currently no text in this page
[11:25] <blind> lol.
[11:25] <chuckyp> marten_71, a plain text file?
[11:25] <jhaquo> well, its configuring ubuntu :p
[11:25] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  hey, it's amazing!!! my laptop runs on fumes!!!  or the software dosen't know anything about my battery!
[11:25] <Robert_Town> So should I just go back to 6.6 for now, or is there an easy way for me to get the driver that I need? Or what ever it is I need to get wireless working seemlessly like it was on 6.6
[11:25] <macd> blind, the link I posted?
[11:25] <retry> no it's configuring a package on ubuntu
[11:25] <daniel15> @jhaquo: Is PHP installed properly
[11:25] <chuckyp> marten_71, nano /path/to/filename
[11:25] <retry> it's not an ubuntu specifi issue
[11:25] <blind> yeah, macd
[11:25] <macd> hmm
[11:25] <retry> you probably need to set up the mime type for php
[11:25] <Nameeater> my nautilus is running at 90% after dist-upgrading to edgy, is there a bug?
[11:25] <macd> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[11:25] <macd> that one
[11:25] <music_man_nz> thanks for your help :)
[11:25] <macd> the url ends after XGL
[11:25] <jhaquo> well it was a few minutes ago, i could load the config file in my browser, then i installed php my admin and mysq, and now it doesnt work anymore, i tried restarting apache
[11:25] <jeeves_Moss> macd:  guess what!!!  My laptop runs on fumes!
[11:25] <macd> so you can take the timestamp out ;P
[11:26] <macd> hehe
[11:26] <macd> jeeves_Moss, did that work?
[11:26] <kaiwai> hi
[11:26] <kaiwai> how do you get mp3 encoding working with ubuntu 6.10?
[11:26] <macd> !mp3
[11:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:26] <geniusvicks> from wehre do I download aiglx?
[11:26] <kaiwai> using sound juicer
[11:26] <chuckyp> !codecs > kaiwai
[11:26] <macd> !aiglx
[11:26] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[11:26] <ubuntux> Chousuke, thanks for the help. i successfully compiled the text editor. Thanks!
[11:26] <kaffeewoller> that DVI problem persists, the dvi output from the ATI 9200 SE doesn't work
[11:26] <jeeves_Moss> macd:  it's still running, but as I said, the software that reports the current battery charge says my battery is dead, but the laptop still runs!!!  LOL
[11:26] <kaiwai> which is useless
[11:26] <macd> lol@jeeves
[11:26] <kaffeewoller> couldn't get it running.
[11:27] <kaiwai> that doesn't help me
[11:27] <marten_71> chuckyp
[11:27] <macd> yes my macbookpro does that on dapper
[11:27] <kaffeewoller> i installed frglx, no avail
[11:27] <IndyBC> freecontrib.org is down, so packages.freecontrib.org can't be fetched from apt-get update. Any solutions? Should I wait, or do something else? (the server is down since yesterday)
[11:27] <chuckyp> kaffeewoller, did you try searching the forums for your card model and DVI
[11:27] <marten_71> chuckyp thanks
[11:27] <macd> kaiwai, you want sound juicer to rip to mp3?
[11:27] <kaiwai> yeap
[11:27] <chuckyp> IndyBC, freecontrib is not ubuntu server you may want to ask them.
[11:27] <retry> indyBC, freecontrib for ubuntu is dead
[11:27] <chuckyp> marten_71, np
[11:27] <kaiwai> I have a creative mp3 player
[11:27] <kaiwai> 'I'd use Ogg, but it doesn't support it
[11:27] <macd> kaiwai, one sec, I'll get you the link
[11:27] <retry> just remove it from your source.list (or comment it out til further notice)
[11:27] <macd> its pretty easy
[11:27] <IndyBC> retry: ok
[11:28] <IndyBC> retry: but what about easyubuntu?
[11:28] <retry> what about it?
[11:28] <jeeves_Moss> macd:  this is the most disctrpitive error msg that I've ever recived!!!
[11:28] <macd> kaiwai, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-957.html
[11:28] <chuckyp> IndyBC, easyubuntu and automatix are not recomended
[11:28] <kleinlappies> hello there. can anyone tell me if the xgl help from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions is any good
[11:28] <chuckyp> IndyBC, just use the desktop guide
[11:28] <macd> kaiwai, keep in mind thats old so youll need to use the newer versions of the aforementioned packages
[11:28] <retry> man easyubuntu sucks
[11:28] <jeeves_Moss> macd:  "a unresolaveable error has occured.  please report this bug"
[11:28] <chuckyp> IndyBC, help.ubuntu.org
[11:28] <macd> lol
[11:28] <macd> where is that from jeeves?
[11:29] <chuckyp> IndyBC, err help.ubuntu.com
[11:29] <IndyBC> chuckyp: ok
[11:29] <chuckyp> IndyBC, step by step instructions for stuff.
[11:29] <IndyBC> chuckyp: I see. Thank you.
[11:29] <axeeOo> hi. I have installed XGL Compiz and its acting really weird, I want to uninstall it but I cant find a guide, could anyone help me please :)
[11:29] <chuckyp> axeeOo, /j #ubuntu-xgl
[11:29] <macd> axeeOo, sudo apt-get remove <packagename here>
[11:30] <kaiwai> ahg, got it working :)
[11:30] <macd> kaiwai, pretty easy eh ;P
[11:30] <kaiwai> do you have a link to a place which does an intro on making packages
[11:30] <axeeOo> macd, thanks.
[11:30] <macd> kaiwai, yes man dpkg
[11:30] <kaiwai> the gnomad2 package is ancient and lacking mtp support; I've built one manually, but I'd love to share the love
[11:30] <kaiwai> :)
[11:30] <macd> kaiwai, you tryint o compile to make a package or convert from rpm?
[11:30] <kaiwai> make a package
[11:31] <kaffeewoller> chuckyp: no. i just found out i can install the newest version of the ati driver. i am doing that.
[11:31] <davidwinter> hi all. is it ok to install the i386 version of Edgy on an AMD64 processor?
[11:31] <kaiwai> I assume its no worse than rpm?
[11:31] <macd> use dpkg to make it
[11:31] <ianmacgregor> kaiwai: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[11:31] <chuckyp> davidwinter, yes
[11:31] <davidwinter> thanks chuckyp
[11:31] <macd> ianmacgregor, good call.
[11:31] <chuckyp> davidwinter, If you don't want 64 bit
[11:31] <ripper> macd he could use alien to go rpm > .deb
[11:31] <ianmacgregor> madness: :)
[11:31] <macd> ripper, thats what alien does ;)
[11:31] <ripper> yes i know this.
[11:31] <chuckyp> davidwinter, after you do that I would install the linxu-image-generic  will be more specific for your cpu but wont' have 64bit support
[11:32] <jeeves_Moss> macd:  so, want to take a "stab" @ getting this thing to upgrade?
[11:32] <davidwinter> the only reason I'm using i386 is because when I try to install the AMD64 version, the upstart Ubuntu logo is all in grey :/ not in colour
[11:32] <macd> the 64bit ubuntu can run 32 bit apps anywho
[11:32] <ianmacgregor> ripper: I know that lots of fooks use alien, but it's not the proper way to do it and can break things.
[11:32] <Sikon> okay, another question
[11:32] <TC`> howto switch betweet language on keyboard letters? ;]
[11:32] <macd> jeeves_Moss, you edit your sources.list ?
[11:32] <davidwinter> has anyone else encountered the grey upstart logo?
[11:32] <jeeves_Moss> macd:  what am I editing out again?
[11:32] <Sikon> I did dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig and now, whenever I disable subpixel hinting, I experience graphical glitches
[11:32] <davidwinter> with AMD64?
[11:33] <chuckyp> macd, you want the sed command?
[11:33] <Sikon> like text randomly disappearing and reappearing
[11:33] <macd> jeeves give me one second and I'll give oyu one command todo it all
[11:33] <ianmacgregor> !/query ubotu
[11:33] <jeeves_Moss> macd:  ok, thnaks.
[11:33] <macd> yeah I was gonna get that sed command out of my pocket ;P
[11:33] <ianmacgregor> !alien | ripper Have a look at the last line of this:
[11:33] <ubotu> ripper Have a look at the last line of this:: rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[11:33] <chuckyp> macd, sudo sed -i s/whatever/newvers/ /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:33] <macd> 'sudo sed -i -e "s/breezy/dapper/" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[11:33] <macd> that should do it all.
[11:34] <retry> dont forget global keyword
[11:34] <howieson26> !de
[11:34] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:34] <Robert_Town> what is the best forum for wireless support on the site?
[11:34] <Tarandus> !fi
[11:34] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[11:34] <retry> 'sudo sed -i -e "s/breezy/dapper/g" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[11:34] <retry> don't you need the g ?
[11:34] <michaels_> how do I detect where in /dev/ my palm is?
[11:34] <chuckyp> retry, no
[11:34] <macd> nope
[11:34] <yaniv> does anyone know how to get hibernation working with the nvidia driver?
[11:34] <macd> but the -e is a good plan ;P
[11:34] <howieson26> hello warum komme ich nicht ins deutsche forum
[11:34] <macd> yaniv, not possible.
[11:35] <hype> anybody having issues with gij-4.1 ? (some friend sent me some lame animated smiley, then my system went "slow" and i spotted this prosess)
[11:35] <macd> yaniv, you should petition nvidia.
[11:35] <howieson26> kann mir jemand helfen beryl funktionerit einwandfrei aber die leisten werden nie gendert?
[11:35] <gemeindebau> hello folks. the sound in my ubuntu 6.1 stopped working (did work in the beginning). i played around with the settings in system/preferences/sound and i get a testbeeeep on all events when using OSS but playing a mp3 file or avi file doesn't give me any sound. can anybody point me to what i can do about that?
[11:35] <yaniv> macd: at all? I remember following a howto that made it work for dapper...
[11:35] <xipietotec> I have two questions: How do I get grub to display what its doing on boot, and 2.) How do I switch the grub-splash back to ubuntu's splash? (I have both ubuntu and kubuntu installed)
[11:35] <chuckyp> 1de
[11:35] <chuckyp> !de
[11:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:36] <macd> yaniv, to my knowledge it doesnt wpork at all, its a problem with the kernel and some hooks nvidia uses into userspace memmory
[11:36] <ripper> !ru
[11:36] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:36] <jpduyx> hello anybody knows where i can find information about mounting a smb device in /etc/fstab ? when booting the smb lines that are in fstab are ignored -- or somehow not mounted only when i issue the command  " sudo mount -a " the smb  shares  are mouted
[11:36] <ripper> that pwnz!
[11:36] <chuckyp> xipietotec, edit /boot/grub/menu.1st and remove the quiet line from your kernel
[11:36] <ripper> !cz
[11:36] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[11:36] <macd> lol@pwnz
[11:36] <retry> jpduyx, probably your fstab mounts are sourced before samba is activated
[11:36] <macd> he spammor!
[11:36] <chuckyp> xipietotec, also to switch back to gdm instead of kdm you just sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:37] <ripper> wow ubotu speaks quite a few langs
[11:37] <yaniv> macd: right, then I guess its apt-get remove nvidia-glx for me...
[11:37] <retry> a dirty fix would be to add a mount -a in rc.local
[11:37] <macd> chuckyp, or you can use .xsession and make a new entry ;)
[11:37] <ripper> !jp
[11:37] <IndyBC> Once, I installed GVim, but I have uninstalled it. However, each time I right click on a text file, it has the option "Open with GVim". How will I remove that?
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <mAIJK> Hi my mousewheelup and mousewheeldown have changed functions with my mouse4 and mouse5. Does anyone how to change this?
[11:37] <ripper> !ch
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <macd> yaniv, that or just leave it on of power off, whats 10 seconds to boot?
[11:37] <chuckyp> ripper, cn
[11:37] <ripper> !cn
[11:37] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[11:37] <xipietotec> chuckyp: You're referring to this line right?: ## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
[11:37] <xipietotec> ## alternatives
[11:37] <xipietotec> ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
[11:37] <xipietotec> # defoptions= (quiet) <---i removed this>splash
[11:38] <enano> Hi! When I'm entering GRUB Loading Stage, it says: GRUB loading, please wait ... then Error 15 pops up. Used to work before, but now I only get this error. Anyone know what it means? Thanks!
[11:38] <ripper> what other langs does he speak?
[11:38] <yaniv> macd: its not 10 seconds... not for me
[11:38] <chuckyp> xipietotec, no the line that has ro quiet splash    remove the quiet
[11:38] <ianmacgregor> !botabuse | ripper
[11:38] <ubotu> ripper: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[11:38] <jpduyx> retry: is there  a easy way to change that ? or is there an easy way to put it in /etc/init.d/mountsambadevicesinfstab
[11:38] <chuckyp> xipietotec, back up your menu.1st file before you make changes though just in case you dleete something you don't want to.
[11:38] <macd> yaniv, ohh well you should write nvidia nasty emails about distributing a binary blob and tainting the wonderful ubuntu kernel ;P
[11:38] <chuckyp> xipietotec, sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.1st /boot/grub/menu.1st.bak
[11:39] <IndyBC> Hello. I installed GVim, but I have uninstalled it. However, each time I right click on a text file, it has the option "Open with GVim". How will I remove that?
[11:39] <chuckyp> IndyBC, purge gvim
[11:39] <chuckyp> IndyBC, how idd you install gvim?
[11:39] <IndyBC> chuckyp: thanks :-)
[11:39] <IndyBC> chuckyp: apt-get
[11:39] <chuckyp> IndyBC, sudo apt-get remove --purge gvim
[11:39] <retry> jpduyx, I dunno I'd rather do it in rc.local and not add custom init scripts if I dont have to
[11:39] <ianmacgregor> IndyBC: you on Edgy?
[11:39] <retry> esp since it's one line
[11:40] <IndyBC> iamtheobject: yup
[11:40] <IndyBC> chuckyp: $ sudo apt-get remove --purge gvim
[11:40] <IndyBC> Reading package lists... Done
[11:40] <IndyBC> Building dependency tree
[11:40] <IndyBC> Reading state information... Done
[11:40] <IndyBC> Package gvim is not installed, so not removed
[11:40] <IndyBC> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 29 not upgraded.
[11:40] <apokryphos> IndyBC: please do not paste in here
[11:40] <IndyBC> apokryphos: sorry
[11:40] <chuckyp> IndyBC, sudo aptitude purge gvim
[11:40] <ianmacgregor> IndyBC:  sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove gvim
[11:41] <hype> retry , when removing quiet, its ok to leave splash?
[11:41] <kelten> I just installed edgy from the 6.10 amd64 iso, but at grub it says 2.blahblah generic. Is this right?
[11:41] <retry> uhh what?
[11:41] <ianmacgregor> --auto-remove is a new switch to apt-get. that new version of apt-get is only in Edgy
[11:41] <jpduyx> retry: tnx, i'll do that for now, but i should think samba shares should be able to without dirty quick fixes in Ubuntu
[11:41] <chuckyp> kelten, generic is the new way
[11:41] <retry> jpduyx, probably can...I'm giving you the 10 second answer
[11:41] <leafw> why the gnome-cups-icon is constantly burning 3.5 % of chip resources? Looks like a waste of battery time
[11:41] <retry> not the 30minute rtfm answer
[11:41] <skunkwerk> greetz macd
[11:41] <IndyBC> chuckyp: Dapper Drake used to recognise my USB mp3 player, but Edgy Eft does not. Why? :-/
[11:42] <retry> kelten 2.6 is the linux kernel version
[11:42] <skunkwerk> ;]
[11:42] <jpduyx> retry :)
[11:42] <retry> not the ubuntu distro version
[11:42] <macd> skunkwerk, greetz
[11:42] <kelten> But, it doesnt state that its amd64
[11:42] <chuckyp> IndyBC, dunno
[11:42] <macd> skunkwerk, c0re?
[11:42] <IndyBC> Dapper Drake used to recognise my USB mp3 player, but Edgy Eft does not. Can anybody help, please?
[11:43] <marten_71> is there anyone that konws anything about the program tor and can help me
[11:43] <richee> hey folks what does the alternate cd of edgy 6.10 contain
[11:43] <xipietotec> chuckyp: The only place I see any mention of quiet splash in menu.list is here: # defoptions= quiet splash
[11:43] <ianmacgregor> !repeat | IndyBC
[11:43] <ubotu> IndyBC: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:43] <macd> IndyBC, is it possible its treating it as a removable disk?
[11:43] <kelten> 2.6.17-10-generic <- running 64bit?
[11:43] <marten_71> !tor
[11:43] <macd> kelten, negative.
[11:43] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[11:43] <kelten> hmm
[11:43] <kelten> So what do I need to do to run 64 bit on edgy?
[11:43] <macd> kelten, for the time being Id stick with 32bit
[11:44] <skunkwerk> macd ya brudda, it's your coconut nizzle for shizzle.
[11:44] <EmxBA> !language > shunkwerk
[11:44] <hype> retry , when removing the "quiet" option from my kernel in menu.lst, is it ok if i leave the splash option?
[11:44] <kelten> okay, but for later. Is it easy to upgrade to 64bit?
[11:44] <EmxBA> !language > skunkwerk
[11:44] <macd> kelten, kind of.
[11:44] <skunkwerk> ok ok
[11:44] <retry> hype, dunno, but probably
[11:44] <hype> ok
[11:44] <hype> :)
[11:44] <kelten> alright
[11:44] <kelten> 32bit it is
[11:44] <hype> backed up anyway ^^
[11:45] <GnarusLeo> can anyone describe why my firefox 2.0 is crashing? Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
[11:45] <GnarusLeo> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
[11:45] <GnarusLeo> Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
[11:45] <GnarusLeo> Error: Aborting: no font found
[11:45] <macd> I dont think that was offensive language.
[11:45] <retry> good man
[11:45] <sulo> Hi, what command should I give to ls to copy all files and dirs which names begin with a '.' into another dir?
[11:45] <IndyBC> macd: When I had Dapper Drake, I just put it in the USB port, and it made a window of the contents appear. But now nothing happens, i think not only it is not automounted, but it does not see it as well.
[11:45] <hype> bbl
[11:45] <retry> if I hadn't tarballed my system this evening, I'd be installing dapper from scratch right now
[11:45] <marten_71> is there anyone that konws anything about the program tor and can help me
[11:45] <macd> IndyBC, interesting, try it as root.
[11:45] <retry> marten, what about tor?
[11:45] <macd> retry, in the future you should mount /home on its own partition
[11:45] <IndyBC> macd: ok, I will try
[11:45] <richee> sulo: cp -r .* <dest?
[11:45] <macd> Id use ext3, resiser might just go away ;P
[11:45] <richee> sulo: cp -r .* <dest>
[11:45] <marten_71> retry i cant get it to work
[11:46] <macd> pun intended.
[11:46] <retry> macd, there's more that I want to keep than just /home
[11:46] <retry> I care more about confs than anything
[11:46] <retry> anyway I lost nothing in my home dir
[11:46] <macd> retry, true that
[11:46] <ianmacgregor> macd: reiserfs has too mch overhead.. with the dead bodies and all
[11:46] <macd> how about backup manager?
[11:46] <ianmacgregor> :)
[11:46] <macd> ianmacgregor, indeed!
[11:46] <sulo> rich that will copy all content of current directory into <dest>
[11:47] <macd> Id rather xfs anywho ;P
[11:47] <IndyBC> macd: /media contains only: cdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0
[11:47] <sulo> richee, not only dot-files
[11:47] <richee> sulo: yup
[11:47] <macd> IndyBC, thats wierd
[11:47] <retry> and I can always rm -rf everythinb but home then fresh install and not partition if I had to
[11:47] <IndyBC> :(
[11:47] <macd> IndyBC, tried looking at dmesg?
[11:47] <sulo> richee: so.... can it be done?
[11:47] <IndyBC> macd: absolute path?
[11:47] <kelten> Whats a good mp3 player for ubuntu?
[11:47] <macd>  /var/log/dmesg
[11:47] <IndyBC> thx
[11:47] <sulo> kelten: xmms
[11:47] <retry> i like play, kelten
[11:47] <richee> sulo: do u want to copy all the files and dir starting with . to a dest
[11:48] <macd> IndyBC, or just type dmesg ;P
[11:48] <sulo> richee: yes
[11:48] <richee> sulo: then this should work
[11:48] <ianmacgregor> kelten: xmms, bmp, rhythmbox
[11:48] <retry> find -name '*.mp3
[11:48] <retry> oops
[11:48] <tim167> trying to backup a folder to DVD I get 'some files have invalid names (invalid UNICODE ??.p) how fo I find and delete/rename these files ?
[11:48] <richee> sulo: then make sure ur in that current dir
[11:48] <retry> find -name '*.mp3' -exec play {} \;
[11:48] <xipietotec> Anyone have any suggestions? I was told to remove the line quiet from # defoptions= quiet splash in order to get grub to display what it's doing...I did that but It still doesn't show anything
[11:48] <sulo> richee it doesn't. it copies _everything_ into <dest>
[11:48] <IndyBC> macd: the two last lines: [17183072.900000]  sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda
[11:48] <IndyBC> [17183072.900000]  sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[11:48] <macd> then look in /dev/sda
[11:48] <Robert_Town> is there anything wrong with going back to 6.6 until 6.10 is stable?
[11:48] <richee> sulo: oh
[11:48] <macd> Robert_Town, not at all
[11:48] <IndyBC> macd: ok, I will
[11:49] <retry> Robert_Town, probably better off with 6.6
[11:49] <macd> its been real people, but its 5am.
[11:49] <retry> later macd
[11:49] <ianmacgregor> macd: laters
[11:49] <retry> thanks for your help and advice
[11:49] <macd> np np
[11:49] <blind> It's working smoothly, now, though.
[11:49] <IndyBC> macd: $ cd /dev/sda
[11:49] <IndyBC> bash: cd: /dev/sda: Not a directory
[11:49] <Robert_Town> ok good deal only problem with 6.6 is I can't reboot, but thats more liveable then no internet lol :)
[11:49] <retry> blind what complications ?
[11:50] <sulo> is Skype 1.3.53_3 working properly in Ubuntu 6.10?
[11:50] <richee> sulo: dunno dude
[11:50] <retry> you tell me :)
[11:50] <richee> sulo: need to check
[11:50] <blind> retry: had an issue with the new X
[11:50] <macd> IndyBC, hmmm, thats odd but Im outta here, maybee one of the resident gurus can help, sorry youcaught me at 5am !
[11:50] <retry> blind, me too mate
[11:50] <retry> how'd you get around it?
[11:50] <blind> retry, i forced the install
[11:50] <IndyBC> macd: ok, thanks anyway :-)
[11:50] <sulo> richee: still talking about 'ls' syntax?
[11:50] <izmaelis> hello
[11:50] <kelten> ugh, now to get my sound working
[11:50] <richee> sulo: hmmm
[11:51] <xipietotec> Anyone have any suggestions? I was told to remove the line quiet from # defoptions= quiet splash in order to get grub to display what it's doing...I did that but It still doesn't show anything
[11:51] <retry> indybc, /dev/ is for devices...it's not really the filesystem
[11:51] <retry> you have to mount a device ...
[11:51] <IndyBC> retry: so, what should I do?
[11:51] <izmaelis> how do I start vncserver to be able to connect to exsisting X session?
[11:51] <ianmacgregor> xipietotec: No, you have to remove the "splash" to get grub showing verbosely
[11:51] <retry> what is it a scsi drive?
[11:51] <richee> xipietotec: do we need to do update-grub after that
[11:51] <blind> izmaelis: vncserver :0
[11:51] <juve> Hi, how do i get my current FSB-speed without using sudo (cpu: Athlon XP) ?
[11:51] <JosefK> xipietotec: you need to add a comment before 'hiddenmenu' near the top of the file
[11:51] <richee> xipietotec: I guess we have to do that
[11:52] <izmaelis> blind: ty I'll try it right away
[11:52] <xipietotec> okay....um....I was just told 3 different things
[11:52] <JosefK> xipietotec: do you want to see what grub's doing (ie. the menu), or what your system's doing when it boots?
[11:52] <ianmacgregor> xipietotec: If you remove the word "splash" you will see a list of the things the system is doing when it boots.. and you won't see the splash pic
[11:53] <xipietotec> JosefK: I want it to show what grub is doing, like in 6.06
[11:53] <retry> i like seeing both the splash and the list
[11:53] <retry> dapper does it
[11:53] <enano> Anyone know what the Error 15 in grub loading stage means? I really can't boot my PC and I can't find any info on that error on ubunutu.com ... thanks!
[11:53] <JosefK> xipietotec: I think removing 'quiet' is what you want
[11:53] <richee> !help
[11:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:53] <retry> !grub
[11:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:53] <Rambo> hello
[11:53] <xipietotec> JosefK: So then I just need to run update-grub ?
[11:54] <ianmacgregor> xipietotec: No, just reboot
[11:54] <JosefK> xipietotec: if you removed it from the kopt line, then yes
[11:54] <retry> screw grub...back to lilo everybody
[11:54] <xipietotec> because I had removed "quiet" and nothing happened
[11:54] <tim167> anyone know how I prevent screen standby, already tried System>preference>Power Management, also xset s off, but it still goes in standby
[11:54] <JosefK> xipietotec: either way, running update-grub can't hurt
[11:54] <ianmacgregor> JosefK: He doesn't need to run update-grub and removing the "quiet" doesn't help
[11:54] <HanzZ> sorry for bad question.... but ubuntu.com is down?
[11:54] <zsh> !firefox
[11:54] <JosefK> ianmacgregor: if he only removed quiet from the kopt=, commented line, then yes, he does need to run update-grub
[11:54] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:55] <kelten> Whats the command to open up the alsa config?
[11:55] <Grover3> tim167, isnt that infuriating? mine did something screwy and I had to reset my monitor
[11:55] <retry> hanzz, it is not down
[11:55] <JosefK> ianmacgregor: I asked if he wanted to see what happens when his system's booting, apparantly not, so leave splash in.  removing quiet shows what grub does before it starts booting the kernel though
[11:55] <ianmacgregor> JosefK: No, he doesn't. I have done that on several boxes and never need to run update-grub.
[11:55] <retry> kelten, open a term type alsa and hit tab 2x
[11:55] <JosefK> ianmacgregor: you really do..
[11:55] <xipietotec> this is where I removed it from: ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
[11:55] <xipietotec> # defoptions=  quiet splash
[11:55] <IndyBC> retry: http://pastebin.ca/226133
[11:55] <JosefK> xipietotec: run update-grub then
[11:56] <IndyBC> retry: that's dmesg
[11:56] <ianmacgregor> jodNo, you don't , I've been doing this for years and update-grub is not needed.
[11:56] <JosefK> ianmacgregor: for a test, add something to the commented line, examine the rest of the file.  then run update-grub and examine the rest of the file
[11:56] <kelten> retry, alsa command not found
[11:56] <retry> kelten, type alsa and press TAB 2 times
[11:56] <GnarusLeo> can anyone describe why my firefox 2.0 is crashing? Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
[11:56] <tim167> Grover3: I need to be able to turn of monitor standby for a presentation longer than 'idle after...' time
[11:56] <Robert_Town> thanks for the help all found a thread on the forums that might help will try it :) again thank you all
[11:56] <Robert_Town> night
[11:56] <kelten> oh im dumb
[11:57] <retry> i get alsamixer and alsactl
[11:57] <atlas95> hello
[11:57] <nikodll> Hit3k, can someone check english text document for language errors please (a bit linux-related)?
[11:57] <JosefK> ianmacgregor: look, I just ran a test to be absolutely sure, and you absolutely, definitely do need to run update-grub
[11:57] <retry> then type man alsamixer, man alsactl alsamixer -h etc
[11:57] <nikodll> can someone check english text document for language errors please (a bit linux-related)?
[11:57] <Grover3> tim167, why not just turn it off, or turn off the screensaver entirely]
[11:57] <ianmacgregor> JosefK: Please stop, I know what I'm doing.
[11:57] <retry> IndyBC
[11:57] <JosefK> ianmacgregor: as do I
[11:57] <atlas95> i've a little problem, when i plug my usbdisk, i don't have write acces on
[11:57] <yaniv> macd: I got hibernation (but not suspend) working by adding "option   "NvAGP"    "1"" to the device section in xorg.conf
[11:57] <retry> what happens if you type fdisk -l /dev/sda
[11:57] <atlas95> how to resolv this please?
[11:57] <ianmacgregor> JosefK: Pleaced you on my ignore list.
[11:57] <tim167> Grover3: i did: xset s off
[11:58] <Jimmey> Which xorg version does Edgy use?
[11:58] <JosefK> ianmacgregor: ignore someone who tells you the correct way to do it, fine..
[11:58] <JosefK> can I get a witness? ;)
[11:58] <tim167> also did xset s noblank
[11:58] <xipietotec> okay....rebooting to see what changes
[11:58] <kelten> Do I need to install something special to play xvid, x264, etc etc?
[11:58] <IndyBC> retry: http://pastebin.ca/226137
[11:58] <Grover3> tim167, alrighty then
[11:59] <tim167> its hard to test because it only happens after 2 hour or so :s
[11:59] <retry> whoa fat16
[11:59] <retry> what is it?
[11:59] <retry> IndyBC mount it
[11:59] <FallenHi1okiri> i have 2 systems running edgy. if i install a gtk2-theme from gnome-look.org (http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42697 for example) and select it in the theme-manager it draws the ugly "default gtk2 theme" every theme shiped with ubuntu works - every theme i install doesn't work. what can i do?
[11:59] <IndyBC> retry: /dev/sda1 ?
[11:59] <retry> yeah
[11:59] <retry> do you have a mount point for it ?
[12:00] <retry> mkdir /mnt/whateveryouwantittobecalled
[12:00] <retry> then mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/whateveryouwantittobecalled
[12:00] <ianmacgregor> FallenHi1okiri: How are you installing the themes?
[12:00] <AguazZ> hi all!
[12:00] <retry> if that throws an error you might have to explicitly set the filesystem type
[12:00] <Jof> i have a problem with open irc links in firefox
[12:00] <Jof> with xchat
[12:01] <Jof> xchat opens, but it does not connect to the server
[12:01] <FallenHi1okiri> ianmacgregor: i drag and drop them in the theme-manager (extracting them to .themes) doesn't work too (i tryed both ways) on a archlinux- system the themes work - so i don't think that they are broken
[12:01] <IndyBC> retry: mounted ;-)
[12:01] <retry> cool
[12:01] <IndyBC> retry: thanks a lot. but how will I make automatic?
[12:01] <retry> fat16 huh?
[12:01] <retry> add it to your /etc/fstab
[12:02] <Roberto> Buenos dias :)
[12:02] <ianmacgregor> FallenHi1okiri: Ok, if you're dragging and dropping them into ~/.themes and they still don't work, then it isn't the fault of the themes installer, something else is wrong. My advice won't help you, then.
[12:02] <retry> add a line like /dev/sda1   /mnt/blahblah fat16  defaults,noatime 0 0
[12:02] <enano> Okey, so I red https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows . And enterted the "rescue" command when booting from the CD. But it stops during load and says: Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)
[12:02] <marten_71> is there anyone that knows anything about the program tor and can help me
[12:02] <retry> you'll want to edit /etc/fstab as root
[12:02] <FallenHi1okiri> iamtheobject: thankts anyway :)
[12:03] <tim167> how can I write an automation script moving the mouse to prevent monitor sleep ?
[12:03] <Jimmey> tim167, wouldn't it be easier just to tell the computer not to put the monitor to sleep?
[12:03] <retry> hehehe
[12:03] <lotusleaf> tim167: kaffeine does something like this
[12:03] <kidbuntu> how do you add the Javascript plugins on ECLIPSE
[12:03] <tim167> Jimmey: i did tell it that but it still goes to sleep
[12:04] <Jimmey> tim167, try "System > Preferences > Power manager"
[12:04] <Jimmey> tim167, oh.
[12:04] <stsquad> Can anyone tell me why apt is keeping back a bunch of xorg updates as I've upgraded from Dapper to Edgy? My X is currently borken
[12:04] <XoR> who know any linux organizer (for example korganizer) with database support (mysql or postgresql) ???
[12:05] <savvas> how can i disable the warning in automatix2? :\
[12:05] <Keyseir> Is there anyone here who uses VMware on Dapper?
[12:05] <ianmacgregor> savvas: automatix is not supported in this channel
[12:05] <tim167> lotusleaf: do you have a link to kaffeine ?
[12:05] <ianmacgregor> !automatix | savvas: automatix is not supported in this channel
[12:05] <FallenHi1okiri> XoR: korganizer, evolution, sunbird, ... they should all be able to sync with a database / backend
[12:06] <Keyseir> !automatic
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <ianmacgregor> !automatix | savvas automatix is not supported in this channel
[12:06] <savvas> :P
[12:06] <Keyseir> !automatixx
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatixx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <ianmacgregor> !automatix | savvas
[12:06] <Keyseir> !automatix
[12:06] <ubotu> savvas: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[12:06] <IndyBC> retry: ok, what should I write to fstab?
[12:06] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[12:06] <XoR> FallenHi1okiri: how can i add backend database to korganizer?
[12:06] <retry> add a line like /dev/sda1   /mnt/blahblah fat16  defaults,noatime 0 0
[12:06] <Keyseir> Is there anyone here who uses VMware on Dapper?
[12:06] <FallenHi1okiri> XoR: i don't know if you can direktly sync with a database or if you need a connector for syncml for example
[12:06] <IndyBC> retry: thx a lot ;)
[12:07] <retry> np mate
[12:07] <kidbuntu> how do you add the Javascript plugins on ECLIPSE
[12:07] <XoR> Fackamato: i need sync form job and home my organizer calendar....
[12:08] <Jof> i have a problem with open irc links in firefox
[12:08] <Jof> with xchat
[12:08] <Jof> xchat opens, but it does not connect to the server
[12:09] <IndyBC> retry: I put the usb in, but it didn't work :/
[12:09] <retry> usb?
[12:09] <retry> oh this is a usb device?
[12:10] <pielgrzym> hello everyone :)
[12:10] <retry> it should automount usb devices
[12:10] <pielgrzym> I've got a little problem
[12:10] <retry> that's handled by the usb subservice
[12:10] <IndyBC> retry: I know, Dapper did it.
[12:10] <Keyseir> pielgrzym: Shoot and people may try to help
[12:11] <retry> i see
[12:11] <retry> well more bugs in edgy ?
[12:11] <retry> I dunno
[12:11] <IndyBC> retry: :PpPpPp
[12:11] <IndyBC> retry: ok :p
[12:11] <pielgrzym> my edgy is only half translated, though the translation is full, I get some parts in enlish and some in polish :(
[12:11] <savvas> pielgrzym: start translating then :P
[12:11] <pielgrzym> I tried reinstalling language packs but it did't seem to help
[12:11] <IndyBC> retry: so, what should I do?
[12:11] <retry> mount manually when you need it ?
[12:12] <pielgrzym> savvas: well, it's already done :]  but my system seems to like a half polish half english comunicates
[12:12] <suston3d> hi all : does anyone know how my XServer could stop crashing after rendering a scene couple times in Maya 8.0 .....  ?
[12:12] <IndyBC> retry: ok
[12:12] <IndyBC> retry: But this bug should be reported.
[12:12] <retry> probably already has been
[12:12] <retry> go read the forums
[12:12] <IndyBC> retry: ok
[12:12] <savvas> pielgrzym: i meant to group up with some friends and translate the other half :]
[12:13] <retry> maybe others with the same prob have found abetter answer
[12:13] <pielgrzym> savvas: the translation IS READY. It's my system issue
[12:13] <savvas> oh
[12:13] <Keyseir> Anyone here have experience with VMware?
[12:13] <tim167> can anyone tell me how to automate mouse movement in a script on ubuntu (like AutoIt3 for windows ) ? thanks
[12:13] <savvas> pielgrzym: which packages did you reinstall?
[12:14] <pielgrzym> all language related, shall I list them?
[12:14] <izmaelis> blind: when i'm trying to run vncserver :0 it tells me that vncserver is already running on this display although I'm sure that there is no running vncserver
[12:15] <vorbote> pielgrzym: have you checked the status of the unstranslated applications in Rossetta?
[12:15] <pielgrzym> savvas: languague-pack-pl, languague-pack-pl-base languague-pack-kde-pl, kde-i18n-pl
[12:15] <pielgrzym> vorbote: yes I did
[12:16] <vorbote> pielgrzym: and what is the language defined for your sytem?
[12:16] <vorbote> (do a locale -a at a terminal)
[12:16] <pielgrzym> polish
[12:17] <marten_71> is there anyone that knows anything about the program tor and can help me
[12:17] <atlas95> :(
[12:17] <vorbote> That tells me nothing. I want to know if your locale is set right.
[12:17] <lotheac> I upgraded to edgy a few days ago and I even after posting to the forums I don't have a clue what's broken. Everything else is fine, but I can't type accented letters () in applications using wine (or even winecfg). I'm using the same .deb as I was with dapper and had no problems until upgrading.
[12:17] <pielgrzym> ok
[12:17] <atlas95> anyone for help me? :(
[12:17] <Zyfo> ?ati drivers
[12:17] <IndyBC> Others have probs with USB in Edgy, too, where it worked in Dapper. I saw it in forums.
[12:17] <pielgrzym> vorbote: a minute - I'll put it to pastebin
[12:17] <atlas95> I have yet my usbdisk write problem
[12:17] <vorbote> OK
[12:17] <Zyfo> !drivers
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <IndyBC> But in the search, I just see the posts, not the answers.
[12:17] <atlas95> i've try pmount -t vfat --umask 007 /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk
[12:17] <atlas95> but this don't work
[12:18] <spyke112> well... maybe it's an ntfs partition... then you have read-only rights...
[12:18] <savvas> pielgrzym: some programs have their own locale files: apt-cache search language | grep -i pack | grep -i pl
[12:18] <pielgrzym> vorbote: here is the sudo locale -a output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28831/
[12:18] <xipietotec> okay....splash displays what grub is doing now...but the kubuntu splash is still what loads
[12:19] <pielgrzym> savvas: I know, but I get kde system setting half in polish and half in english. Adept is fully english etc.
[12:20] <sashimi_> yop
[12:20] <tim167> when I put a blank DVD in the dvd writer ubuntu asks 'create dvd?' but then it dissapears again? any ideas ?
[12:21] <pielgrzym> I have to go now :) thanks for support guys :)
[12:21] <vorbote> Well, you do have polish enabled. Now, do a quick check. Type "locale" at a terminal. LANG should be pl_PL.utf8 (and depending on how was your system set up, all other variables except LC_ALL may have the same value).
[12:21] <pielgrzym> ok
[12:21] <pielgrzym> vorbote: everything is pl_PL
[12:21] <suston3d> hi all : does anyone know how my XServer could stop crashing after rendering a scene couple times in Maya 8.0 ..... is tehre some sort of cache retter or memory retter ?
[12:21] <xipietotec> also in /usr/share/gnome/help/desktopguide/sample/ there's a file that reccomends this option: # menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
[12:21] <xipietotec> #            grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
[12:21] <xipietotec> #            grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
[12:21] <xipietotec> #            and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.
[12:21] <xipietotec> splashimage (hd0,1)/boot/grub/images/ubuntu.xpm.gz
[12:21] <pielgrzym> vorbote: but still the system is not fully translated
[12:22] <pielgrzym> vorbote: LC_ALL is empty
[12:22] <xipietotec> There's not a /grub/images/ folder right now, I'm assuming that you'd create one if you wanted to use your own images?
[12:22] <Godsey> how do I do a minimal install w/ 6.10?
[12:22] <Godsey> I don't see how to boot: server or minimal?
[12:23] <vorbote> Hmmm... If the parts that are now unstranslated were previously, that smells like a bug that you should report to launchpad (they could have mistagged the language in the last language pack update or something).
[12:23] <pielgrzym> vorbote: ok, I'll do that :) thanks for support :)
[12:24] <marten_71> is there anyone that knows anything about the program tor and can help me
[12:24] <IndyBC> So, If the developers could fix that bug (auto-detect and auto-mount usb devices), it would be great.
[12:24] <igorzolnikov> I have removed /etc/java-1.5.0-sun... How can i restore it.
[12:24] <igorzolnikov> ?
[12:25] <FRET> marten_71, what do you want to know?
[12:25] <v3l0ct> igorzolnikov, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[12:25] <Kulez> hi, i just installed edgy. any ideas why starting update-manager gives an invalid syntax error? http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4684/
[12:26] <xipietotec> I want to create a new directory in a root locked directory how would I do that?
[12:26] <eXistenz> Hello. What is the WineHQ repository address for edgy?
[12:26] <igorzolnikov> v3l0ct, and what?
[12:26] <Innu> Hey, I switched to urxvt + zsh. Im trying to change terminal colors. How i reload .Xdefaults without Xserver restart?
[12:26] <v3l0ct> follow it
[12:26] <FRET> xipietotec, sudo mkdir <directory>
[12:26] <xipietotec> thankye =)
[12:26] <igorzolnikov> v3l0ct, i have errors...
[12:27] <Godsey> when I hit escape I get the boot
[12:27] <v3l0ct> you didn't say that previously
[12:27] <Godsey> boot: prompt but it says server and server-expert are not found
[12:27] <v3l0ct> what kind of errors
[12:27] <orion2012> Innu: xrdb
[12:27] <v3l0ct> is this on edgy/dapper/breezy
[12:27] <marten_71> FRET i like to know how to get it working
[12:28] <dell> hi i can't make gaim connect to ICQ, icq on my other comp gets disconnected but here i get a connection broken? is there a firewall setting i need t change?
[12:28] <marten_71> FRET i have installed it but it is not working
[12:28] <lei> ?
[12:29] <marten_71> FRET and i an very new at linux and not good at the terminal
[12:29] <igorzolnikov> I have removed /etc/java-1.5.0-sun... How can i restore it?
[12:29] <orion2012> eXistenz: WineHQ is independent of Ubuntu, if they haven't produced packages for Edgy yet, then there isn't one.
[12:29] <FRET> marten_71, then learn how to get good at the terminal... ;-). Alright, you have to start the tor daemon
[12:30] <eXistenz> !eclipse
[12:30] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[12:30] <FRET> marten_71, that is done with sudo /etc/init.d/tor start
[12:30] <marten_71> Fret how do i do that
[12:30] <FRET> marten_71, and it can be stopped with /etc/init.d/tor stop
[12:30] <marten_71> FRET ok
[12:31] <ivx> hey i have the broadcom 4318 and i can't get it to work. i can see me wifi network but when i try to connect it just twirls and won't connect
[12:31] <marten_71> FRET ok done
[12:31] <FRET> marten_71, what application to you want to use with it?
[12:32] <marten_71> FRET firefox
[12:32] <orion2012> marten_71: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2275/
[12:32] <FRET> marten_71, then you will need privoxy as well
[12:32] <ivx> does anyone have any ideas
[12:32] <FRET> good point orion2012 :-)
[12:32] <orion2012> marten_71: very useful after you get things working
[12:32] <FRET> haven't thought about it
[12:32] <xipietotec> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
[12:32] <xipietotec> Testing for an existing GRUB menu.list file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:32] <xipietotec> Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
[12:33] <nikodll> can someone check english text document for language errors please (a bit linux-related)? I need to check for something that "sounds bad" for native english speakers...
[12:33] <orion2012> FRET: didn't mean to steal your thunder, just interjecting :)
[12:33] <xipietotec> where would I edit to direct it to a splash image?
[12:33] <marten_71> FRET i hve privoxy on my comp and the firefox button too
[12:33] <FRET> orion2012, it was a good point.... ;-)
[12:33] <asdfr> I've just installed edgy and it's broken EVERYWHERE :(
[12:33] <Godsey> nikodll: sure, url?
[12:34] <FRET> marten_71, have a look at the firefox-plugin orion2012 mentioned
[12:34] <orion2012> asdfr: OK, how so?
[12:34] <marten_71> orion2012 have that it did work before i upgrade to edgy
[12:34] <nikodll> orion2012, http://yurisconsult.com/files/text.doc
[12:34] <marten_71> FRET have that plugin
[12:34] <orion2012> marten_71: works for me in Edgy.
[12:34] <nikodll> orion2012, thank you alot
[12:34] <abhinay> how to join two VOB files ?
[12:34] <orion2012> nikodll: I don't like Microsoft documents
[12:35] <orion2012> nikodll: If you have something plaintext, I'll take a look
[12:35] <marten_71> orion2012 how did you set it up
[12:35] <Godsey> nikodll: maybe a photo where you don't look pissed off :)
[12:35] <xipietotec> anyone, how would I edit menu.lst (in grub) to direct it to a specific image for splash?
[12:35] <igorzolnikov> I have removed /etc/java-1.5.0-sun... Result -> could not open `/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/lib/i386/jvm.cfg
[12:35] <orion2012> marten_71: Just installed the extension from the addons site, nothing to setup.
[12:35] <nikodll> please %) http://yurisconsult.com/files/Koval_N_O-detailed-EN-v2.5.odt
[12:35] <orion2012> xipietotec: grub has nothing to do with usplash
[12:36] <nikodll> Godsey, 8-)
[12:36] <xipietotec> okay....how would I change the upsplash for grub?
[12:36] <orion2012> xipietotec: unless you are referring to grub-splash
[12:36] <nikodll> orion2012, it ok - Oasis Open Document (odt) ?
[12:36] <sorush20> hi..
[12:36] <kent> igorzolnikov: remove the java-package from the system with either synaptic  or Add/Remove Programs in the Program menu.  Then re-install it with the same program, and it should be recreated automaticly.
[12:36] <xipietotec> yes, the splash that displays with grub during the mounting process
[12:37] <CorpseFeeder> anyone know how to make ekiga call a real land-line phone?
[12:37] <sorush20> I just want to know whaty i'm in bsybox now after upgrading to edgy
[12:37] <marten_71> orion2012 in my firefox it say tor enable but i still see my ip
[12:37] <orion2012> xipietotec: you need to set "splashimage=" in menu.lst
[12:37] <davidwinter> I've followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia on how to install the Nvidia drivers. I have a GeForce 6200 PCI Express card. When I do the last step to restart X server, I get the following error:
[12:37] <Zyfo> I've got troubles launching a game called Warsow. I installed the latest ATI-drivers. Start log: http://pastie.caboo.se/20020 Any idea on what I could do?
[12:38] <xipietotec> do I need to specify an hda?
[12:38] <davidwinter> NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance BusID PCI:3:0:0) found
[12:38] <davidwinter> No devices detected.
[12:38] <davidwinter> Fatal server error: no screens found
[12:38] <eXistenz> How is it that in Windows, programs don't need so much dependencies when installing any exe program?
[12:38] <igorzolnikov> kent, i tried... but dpkg: error processing sun-java5-bin (--configure):
[12:38] <xipietotec> splashimage (hd0,1)/boot/grub/images/ubuntu.xpm.gz <---i found this in a help file under /gnome/help
[12:38] <igorzolnikov> kent, Error: could not open `/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/lib/i386/jvm.cfg'
[12:39] <CorpseFeeder> the ekiga help page just says go to #ubuntu for help, so here I am. Anyone know how to make the Ekiga PC-to-Phone work?
[12:39] <orion2012> marten_71: I followed a ubuntu wiki entry to configure it intially, I can't find it now though
[12:39] <kent> igorzolnikov: but you have tried to remove it with synaptic right, and then to re-install it? becaus. that way it should work.  unless you are using some 3rd party version of suns java
[12:40] <orion2012> xipietotec: yes, you need to specify the drive/partition in that manner, not hda, hdb, etc.
[12:40] <asdfr> orion2012, sorry upgraded to even.  It has messed up configuration files (evolution, gnome panel); qiv keeps crashing and I've had half a dozen crash screens with other apps too - .  Bootsplash doesn't display properly (it's off the rhs of the screen coming back on the left) and lots of key maps have been changed
[12:40] <marten_71> orion ok mine is not working at all
[12:40] <Grover3> i just watched the movie "the departed"
[12:40] <Grover3> wow
[12:41] <Grover3> thats a great movie
[12:41] <igorzolnikov> kent, sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-bin... next sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[12:41] <Zyfo> !libgl
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <orion2012> Grover3: yes it was, but please use #ubuntu-offtopic :-)
[12:41] <Grover3> ugh - sorry - I hit the wrong tab
[12:42] <igorzolnikov> kent, it did't work...
[12:42] <CorpseFeeder> I must be doing something wrong cos every number I dial I am just getting "security check failed" what's up with that?
[12:42] <orion2012> Grover3: no problem
[12:42] <igorzolnikov> kent, it didnt work...
[12:42] <marten_71> !pastebin
[12:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:42] <asdfr> orion2012, flash doesn't display either on many websites; it brings up a message saying that "This SWF file is known to trigger bugs in swfdec decoder"
[12:43] <Confoodled> I think I screwed things up big time.. When I tried to update Edgy, it didnt fully manage it. Now it doesnt boot up. says there is something wrong with xorg.conf but I cant see anything wrong with that.
[12:43] <kent> igorzolnikov: do you get the error while removing, or installing?  try  apt-get remove  --purge   sun-java5-bin   to remove everything
[12:43] <CorpseFeeder> this ekiga pc-to-phone thing sucks. it doesn't work.
[12:43] <marten_71> orion2012 this was what i did get when i started tor deamon http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28839/
[12:44] <igorzolnikov> kent, installing...
[12:44] <orion2012> marten_71: you have a latent ToR running
[12:45] <Os390> good morning i install dhcp3-server but i obtain a failed when started i use edgy server wher i can find a dhcp log
[12:45] <orion2012> marten_71: /etc/init.d/tor stop
[12:45] <orion2012> marten_71: ps aux | grep tor
[12:45] <marten_71> orion2012 dont know maybe
[12:45] <orion2012> marten_71: tell me if that returns anything
[12:45] <Paul1> Hey guys, i have a problem for you guys. I installed my wireless dongle onto 6.06 and it ran pretty smoothly, and went under the ndiswrapper name of netwg111 and was known as wlan0. when I upgraded to edgy, though the terminal tells me that wlan0 does not exist anymore, and my wireless card does not work. does anyone here possibly know what could be wrong?
[12:45] <v3l0ct> Confoodled, to upgrade to edgy it requires two 'apt-get dist-upgrades' and some people had to pull xorg manually after that to get it working.  It's always best to clean install.
[12:45] <marten_71> orion2012 ok
[12:46] <kent> igorzolnikov: well then,  try removing it with --purge (from synaptic, choose remove completly. this will remove all files. Then a re-install should work since its like a fresh install then)
[12:46] <lasse> hi. when ive installed network manager, how do i start the application?
[12:46] <Confoodled> v3l0ct: it seems to have screwed up then, can I do a restore using the CD atall? as I dont want to lost any personal data
[12:46] <sorush20> how do I get out of busy box?
[12:47] <v3l0ct> Confoodled, as long as you don't reformat your /home (if separate) you could
[12:47] <marten_71> orion2012 this is what it said http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28840/
[12:48] <igorzolnikov> kent, thx... all ok with --purge remove
[12:48] <orion2012> marten_71: yeah, tor is still running, do kill -9 5384
[12:48] <Confoodled> v3l0ct: though it doesnt let you skip the partition options, what should I do at that point ?
[12:49] <Paul1> anyone?
[12:49] <v3l0ct> Confoodled, it will go through the partitioning.  just do it manually and don't let the installer do it.  it should ask you where you want your partitions and if you want to format them.  just don't format /home
[12:49] <orion2012> marten_71: if you ignore the portions about adding new repositories to sources.list, this is pretty much what I followed to get ToR running: http://corvillus.com/2006/09/18/how-to-set-up-tor-and-privoxy-on-ubuntu-linux/
[12:50] <icoo> guys i ave a question...I just installed Edgy..all is working great..even my WiFI card...but I added the battery monitor to my panel and it's showing that I my running on a power cord....but I'm not...only battery
[12:50] <orion2012> marten_71: actually, I only had to configure privoxy, I think everything else just worked
[12:50] <Confoodled> v3l0ct: so if I chose manual, it will still come up with partitions, but those should be the ones that are already there ?
[12:50] <tim167> hi, anyone know how to automate the mouse with a script ? (need to turn off screen sleep, but power management or xset dont work)
[12:51] <asdfr> icoo, I have that problem too; it's just borked
[12:51] <wk_> hello, does the radeon driver support the ati mobility radeon 9000 (M9)
[12:51] <marten_71> orion2012 i have killed it now i think
[12:51] <orion2012> tim167: why not just disable dpms and/or the screensaver?
[12:51] <Bassetts> can someone help me, on the live cd my graphics crash the instant the desktop tries to load, so i installed using the alt version, the login screen appears but then the graphics crash again
[12:51] <marten_71> orion2012 hoe do i config privoxy
[12:51] <v3l0ct> Confoodled, right, you don't have to recreate them, they are there. you just want to select the labels and format them all but /home
[12:51] <icoo> will it be fixed with one of the updates?
[12:51] <lasse> icoo: have you tried to connect the cord, then let it run on batteries?
[12:51] <orion2012> marten_71: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28841/
[12:51] <tim167> orion2012: i did with xset, but still after 2 hours display goes to sleep
[12:52] <Confoodled> v3l0ct: what if I dont want to format them since there is already data on them I require ?
[12:52] <icoo> willtry that ASAP
[12:52] <v3l0ct> icoo, yes, there's a launchpad bug on it already
[12:52] <tim167> only way to be sure is if i can automate mouse movement to keep it awake
[12:52] <Confoodled> v3l0ct: unless home is where all my stuff is?
[12:52] <lasse> bassets: what kind of graphics card have you got?
[12:52] <Bassetts> lasse, ati radeon 9550
[12:52] <tim167> have to make a video installation running tonight
[12:53] <orion2012> tim167: then DPMS must still be enabled
[12:53] <v3l0ct> Confoodled, /home has all your files unless you have data you purposedly placed elsewhere.  all your settings are in /home
[12:53] <asdfr> icoo, you can try replacing your DSDT file maybe, that's what I saw on the bug report filed against dapper.... but as it's been broken 4+ months who knows
[12:53] <magicnorri> hi when i tried to upgrade to 6.10 and it failed i tried to run apt-get again and kept getting error
[12:53] <tim167> orion2012: i did xset -dpms
[12:53] <Confoodled> v3l0ct: ok, I hope things go alright then :)
[12:53] <reiki> wow.... Edgy is really just a bit too "edgy" at this point. An upgrade attempt was a complete disaster resulting in an unuseable machines. A clean install is working but now I'm back to trying to get java working and all that stuff again.
[12:53] <v3l0ct> Confoodled, did you create a /home partition when you installed dapper?
[12:53] <lasse> Bassetts, do you know your way around the terminal
[12:53] <Belping> can anyone tell me how i can do a search for files created the last 24 hours?
[12:53] <Bassetts> lasse, sort of, not well
[12:53] <Confoodled> v3l0ct: I assume it would have done that by default as I wouldnt have changed anything
[12:53] <Tjoels> how can you change between different video player plugins in firefox?
[12:54] <v3l0ct> Confoodled, the installer creates a swap and /, not a /home
[12:54] <tim167> hard to check, because its only after a long time it happens, so i want to be sure and let a script move the mouse every 15 minutes or so, can anyone tell me how I do this ? thanks
[12:54] <v3l0ct> Confoodled, you have to manually partition to create a /home
[12:54] <wickedpuppy> reiki, my upgrade went fine without a hitch ... including nvidia
[12:54] <blind> So yeah, I just upgraded to edgy, can't log in. Something wrong with the xserver? Same problem a lot of people are having?
[12:54] <icoo> the power cord trick is not working, damn we havo to wit for an upadate
[12:55] <Confoodled> v3l0ct: /home would already be there if I was using it surely
[12:55] <v3l0ct> Confoodled, /home is there but it is not it's own partition
[12:55] <orion2012> tim167: try xset q | grep DPMS
[12:55] <lasse> ok. when booting Ubuntu press ctrl alt f2 to get to a terminal. hurry and type sudo killall gdm a couple of times so you are sure you dont start gdm (gnome desktop manager, also X)
[12:55] <asdfr> reiki, is it running stable from a clean install? I am considering fresh installing 6.06 instead because it has broken my system so bad
[12:55] <reiki> wickedpuppy, I was hoping mine would as well. I got modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17010.386/modules.dep. No such file or directory
[12:55] <tim167> orion2012:  DPMS (Energy Star):  DPMS is Enabled
[12:56] <Confoodled> v3l0ct: therefore if its not its own partition, I should get out the vodka
[12:56] <v3l0ct> Confoodled, the installer creates /home inside the / partition, manually i have my /home in a separate partition so i can reinstall without wiping my data
[12:56] <tim167> hmm how do I disable it then ?
[12:56] <orion2012> tim167: then DPMS is enabled :-)
[12:56] <reiki> asdfr, it's running fine from a fresh install
[12:56] <v3l0ct> Confoodled, yep
[12:56] <orion2012> tim167: do you run some sort of Desktop Environment?
[12:56] <lasse> Bassetts, then you install fglrx (the ati drivers), by typing, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:56] <tim167> manual xset says its xset -dpms to disable it
[12:56] <Confoodled> v3l0ct: is there a way to copy /home out, and then back into a partition ?
[12:56] <orion2012> tim167: xset -dpms is the correct way, but some power-manager or something may be changing it
[12:57] <Noah0504> I have a torrent running.  If I lower my laptop screen the download rate drops; if I raise it, it rises again.  However, my signal strength stays at 82%.  It does it every time, it has to be more than a coincidence.  Does anyone have anything to say about it?
[12:57] <Bassetts> lasse, ok i shall try that
[12:57] <reiki> asdfr, in fact it's running GREAT from a fresh install. Just the upgrade was .... well... not fun. Glad I tried it on a spare drive and not my main drive which still has Dapper on it
[12:57] <tim167> not sure what you mean by desktop manager, its ubuntu dapper, with tefault desktop
[12:57] <neopsyche> Hi, microsoft wheelmouse doesnt seem to be moving, it is serial 1.1 on COM port.. can anyone help me with this?
[12:57] <Belping> can anyone tell me how i can do a search for files created the last 24 hours?
[12:57] <v3l0ct> Confoodled, yes, you'll have to google that information.  I know it can be done but I don't know all the steps.  you'll have to use the command line
[12:57] <orion2012> tim167: then please go to the Main Menu and click system->Prefernces->Power Manaagement
[12:57] <Confoodled> v3l0ct: actually there must be an easier way to this.. if I boot up and go into terminal mode, there must be something I can do to sort it out ?
[12:58] <orion2012> tim167: sorry for awful spelling
[12:58] <tim167> orion2012: i did that too, set everything to 'never'
[12:58] <asdfr> reiki, yeah I through caution to the wind and thought "well, if they've made it an official release then it must be in good shape"... arg
[12:58] <neopsyche> Hi, microsoft wheelmouse doesnt seem to be moving, it is serial 1.1 on COM port.. can anyone help me with this?
[12:58] <reiki> good morning apokryphos
[12:58] <asdfr> threw even
[12:58] <Godsey> Belping: find / -mtime 1
[12:58] <v3l0ct> Confoodled, you can boot, do another apt-get dist-upgrade and see what happends
[12:58] <apokryphos> reiki: hey
[12:58] <reiki> asdfr, I am fortunate to have a second physical drive. I will not try the upgrade on my main
[12:59] <neovyse> lut
[12:59] <Confoodled> v3l0ct: you mentioned pulling xorg manually, how would I do that ?
[12:59] <Belping> thanks Godsey
[12:59] <v3l0ct> Confoodled, try the apt-get dist-upgrade first and see if that resolves it
[12:59] <orion2012> tim167: in that case, I'm sorry, I'm not sure why it's still going to sleep
[01:00] <Godsey> Belping: you can add -ls to get more details
[01:00] <Confoodled> v3l0ct: just incase it doesnt and I cant get back on here, what would I do to pull it
[01:00] <v3l0ct> aptitude install xorg-server
[01:00] <tim167> ok, thanks anyway, I have to look for a way to automate mouse movement
[01:00] <Belping> ok thanks!
[01:00] <neopsyche_> Hi, microsoft wheelmouse doesnt seem to be moving, it is serial 1.1 on COM port.. can anyone help me with this?