[05:36] <Niglop> one that im not logged into
[05:36] <angelbaby> thats the only way?
[05:36] <abhi_nav> Vin73, go to bios and there is setting whether you want to enable sata support or not. set that setting to 'yes enable sata'
[05:36] <abhi_nav> Niglop, you have admin rights? then you can go to users and groups and change it from there
[05:36] <Niglop> ty
[05:37] <Vin73> abhi_nav: ok...let me try that...
[05:37] <abhi_nav> Vin73, ok
[05:37] <abhi_nav> Vin73, which version of buntu?
[05:37] <terry> prince_jammys: Yes, you will see hidden files in $HOME
[05:37] <th3Xfagtr> need suggestions for using SMS from comp to mobile
[05:37] <Smooch> prash did alfallenhope get it working?
[05:38] <terry> prince_jammys: ls -a $HOME
[05:38] <prash> Smooch, he did appear and disappear a few times.
[05:38] <prince_jammys> terry: but not necessarily in subdirectories of $HOME.
[05:38] <Smooch> prash: did it work then?
[05:38] <prash> Smooch, dunno
[05:38] <terry> prince_jammys: Yes you are correct.
[05:38] <Smooch> prash k
[05:38] <prince_jammys> my question was simply: are you sure that there are any dotfiles in your present dir?
[05:38] <Smooch> lol
[05:39] <abhi_nav> Vin73, i come back in 2 min.
[05:39] <Vin73> ABHI_NAV: latest version....btw how can I enable sata from bios, I am unable to find a related entry...ok, I'll wait
[05:39] <Vin73> abhi_nav:  latest version....btw how can I enable sata from bios, I am unable to find a related entry...ok, I'll wait
[05:39] <abhi_nav> Vin73, which laptop ?
[05:40] <Vin73> abh_nav: compaq nx91010
[05:40] <abhi_nav> Vin73, in the bios setting under somewhere hdd or like that you explore each and every option there it should be. enable sata
[05:41] <Vin73> abhi_nav: ok, let me see...
[05:41] <abhi_nav> Vin73, hmm
[05:42] <terry> prince_jammys: BTW, if you want to show ONLY hidden files you can do: ls -a|grep "^\."
[05:42] <Vin73> abhi_nav: no I don't see a setting related to hdd here...
[05:42] <abhi_nav> Vin73, in BIOS? how you go to bios while you are online? you know bios?
[05:43] <tonsofpcs> ok, i just got out of dep-hell.  Do I distupgrade and then reinstall X aand gdm and gnome and all thatt or do i reinstall them then distupgrade?
[05:43] <tonsofpcs> (at hardy now)
[05:43] <abhi_nav> Vin73, you have to restart your pc. then press some button may be esc, f10 etc different for each laptop. then blue screen with options appears that is BIOS
[05:43] <Vin73> abhi_nav: apparently I do...I can go to bios by using f2 at boot up
[05:43] <abhi_nav> Vin73, yes
[05:44] <abhi_nav> Vin73, you are not on the same pc where you have problem?
[05:44] <terry> tonsofpcs: Why not just install the version you want in the firt place.  But you should be able to just upgrade from where you are.  Right?
[05:44] <prash> Vin73, did you try to remove your disk just before reboot?
[05:45] <Vin73> abhi_nav: no I am on a different windows desktop...but the laptop is very nearby so I can try out things in no time
[05:45] <Vin73> prash: yes I did
[05:45] <abhi_nav> Vin73,  I see
[05:45] <tonsofpcs> terry: this is an existing system
[05:45] <terry> tonsofpcs: Ok, so, what are you trying to do?
[05:45] <tonsofpcs> i just got out of dep-hell
[05:45] <th3XfagtrMD> how do i send SMS or text messages from my comp to my cell phones?
[05:46] <tonsofpcs> in hardy.
[05:46] <tonsofpcs> i want a working system again
[05:46] <prash> Vin73, did you also try hitting enter key a few times?
[05:46] <terry> tonsofpcs: Try complete sentences and keep all of the conversation on one line.
[05:46] <prash> Vin73, these are just shots in the dark
[05:46] <tonsofpcs> I'm sorry, I tried that to start with and some users of the channel couldn't follow.
[05:46] <tonsofpcs> I temporally separated parts of the statement so that they could more easily follow.
[05:46] <Vin73> abhi_nav: I am afraid there is no option related to hdd that I can see in my bios....I just went inot the hard disk settings and had a look
[05:47] <Vin73> prash: yes I tried all that
[05:47] <abhi_nav> Vin73, anything written as SATA Or IDE?
[05:47] <terry> tonsofpcs: What is your situation?  Can you just do updates now? If not, why not?
[05:48] <Vin73> abhi_nav: There is a Type field at the top which is set to Auto
[05:48] <tonsofpcs> I just got out of dep-hell.  I'm on hardy, I am 'upgrading' all still-installed packages to latest.  To get out of dep-hell, I had to remove X and gnome and gtk and gdm.
[05:48] <WellDone> Vin73: Try the Advanced CMOS settings
[05:49] <WellDone> Vin73: It might be there
[05:49] <Vin73> Welldone: just a minute...let me see
[05:49] <abhi_nav> Vin73, there under ' Advanced ' tab there is two options onboard pata/sata adapters and onboard pata/sata configuratios try if you can set them both to sata
[05:49] <mneptok> tonsofpcs: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:50] <tonsofpcs> mneptok: did you read my question at all?
[05:50] <Vin73> WellDone: Under Advanced menu, I can see External Poiniting Device, Legacy USB support and Print Port Mode
[05:51] <tonsofpcs> trust me, i know the apt commands
[05:51] <tonsofpcs> I just spent 2.5 hours fixing apt.
[05:51] <mneptok> tonsofpcs: yes, you removed requisite elements of ubuntu-desktop. reinstalling it will pull in all its dependencies like X, gdm and gnome
[05:51] <warace> this is a total noob question but does anyone know where I can change the power output to my wifi card i just got an alfa 1000mw card if I am correct it is the TxPower
[05:51] <Vin73> abhi_nav: Under Advanced menu, I can see External Poiniting Device, Legacy USB support and Print Port Mode
[05:51] <tonsofpcs> >> ok, i just got out of dep-hell.  Do I distupgrade and then reinstall X aand gdm and gnome and all thatt or do i reinstall them then distupgrade?
[05:51] <mneptok> tonsofpcs: and that's exactly what i answered.
[05:51] <Vin73> abhi_nav, WellDone: that's all....nothing else
[05:51] <tonsofpcs> no it isn't
[05:52] <mneptok> yes, it is.
[05:52] <abhi_nav> Vin73, there are this options also there onboard pata/sata adapters
[05:52] <tonsofpcs> you first assumed i wanted ubuntu-desktop
[05:52] <abhi_nav> Vin73, :(
[05:52] <tonsofpcs> you also assumed my repo cache was out of date
[05:52] <Vin73> abhi_nav: looks like this enabling option is not provided in my bios
[05:52] <terry> tonsofpcs: You can probably do: apt-get install xorg
[05:52] <mneptok> tonsofpcs: the "all that" line and saying "i want a working system" sort of implies you want Ubuntu back the way it ships.
[05:52] <tonsofpcs> then you told me to upgrade all my packages which I just noted that I am doing now
[05:53] <terry> tonsofpcs: or sudo aptitude install xorg
[05:53] <warace> anyoine ever tried installing ubuntu on a UMPC?
[05:53] <prash> Vin73,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/539027 - not sure if it is related.
[05:53] <abhi_nav> Vin73, ok . then might me another issue. dont know. ok if your laptop in warranty then call center wll tell you how to do this
[05:53] <Vin73> prash: ok let me have a look
[05:53] <tonsofpcs> mneptok: right, and this shipped with ubuntustudio-desktop not ubuntu-desktop :)
[05:53] <tonsofpcs> [yes, this was installed with the ubuntustudio feisty CD]
[05:54] <warace> looking to buy one not sure what to invest in
[05:54] <mneptok> tonsofpcs: well, do i need to edit the line i gave you or are you clever enough to figure it out yourself?
[05:54] <Vin73> abhi_nav: no luck there as well....this is an old laptop which I am using as part of my research...it belongs to the institution
[05:54] <tonsofpcs> mneptok: I'm looking for a direct answer to the question I asked, not someone to try interpreting it as something completely unrelated
[05:54] <mneptok> tonsofpcs: so seek advice elsewhere. i'm done.
[05:54] <abhi_nav> Vin73, ohh. then dont know. you search for bug  if it is an bug or what.
[05:55] <bastidrazor> tonsofpcs: you are clearly too smart for this channel to help you.
[05:55] <tonsofpcs> also, if i'm installing then distupgrading, i'm making it work before i distupgrade otherwise i'm looking at more dephell
[05:55] <tonsofpcs> bastidrazor: apparently
[05:55] <tertl3> tonsofpcs, what is the question
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> 8 ball says : answer hazy
[05:55] <tonsofpcs> >> ok, i just got out of dep-hell.  Do I distupgrade and then reinstall X aand gdm and gnome and all thatt or do i reinstall them then distupgrade?
[05:55] <tertl3> tonsofpcs, didi it ship with rt kernel?
[05:55] <tonsofpcs> tertl3: yes.
[05:56] <tertl3> tonsofpcs, you dont like the studio additions?
[05:56] <tonsofpcs> it is running -rt right now, it also has -generic and one other variant installed
[05:56] <Vin73> abhi_nav: I am not sure how to proceed now...I had banked on getting a solution from this channel...I had assumed that someone would have faced this before
[05:56] <mneptok> tonsofpcs: BTW. Ubuntu Studio is not an official Ubuntu derivative, so we do not support it here.
[05:56] <tertl3> tonsofpcs, do you play guitar?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Ive  always heard to reinstall 'whatever-desktop' befor doing the dist upgrades.
[05:56] <thune3> warace: there may be a better way but: assuming device is wlan0 "iwlist wlan0 txpower" will show you available powers and "iwconfig wlan0 txpower <setting>" should apply changes.
[05:56] <Vin73> abhi_nav: as you can see, I am relatively new to Ubuntu
[05:56] <tonsofpcs> mneptok: actually, ubuntustudio was added to the official repos in hardy.
[05:56] <abhi_nav> Vin73, you get more info in bug reporting
[05:56] <tertl3> tonsofpcs, try #opensourcemusicians
[05:57] <tonsofpcs> tertl3: i'm fine with #video , thanks.
[05:57] <prash> Vin73, do you have any older ubuntu distros that you could try?
[05:57] <Vin73> abhi_nav: are you suggesting that I should raise a bug?
[05:57] <tertl3> theok
[05:57] <prince_jammys> "open source musicians", what a strange concept.
[05:57] <abhi_nav> Vin73, first search for bugs. if not found then submit a bug
[05:57] <tertl3> you use it for video?
[05:58] <tertl3> prince_jammys, i agree, the two things are unrelated
[05:58] <Vin73> prash: I do not have...but if I can download the previous or one of the previous versions....I could try with that
[05:58] <Vin73> abhi_nav: ok
[05:58]  * prince_jammys starts #open-source-pastry-chefs
[05:58] <prash> Vin73, does the laptop support usb booting?
[05:58] <tertl3> nonetheless there are people who fit both categories
[05:58] <tonsofpcs> tertl3: I use it to test video apps
[05:58] <tertl3> cool
[05:58] <tertl3> tonsofpcs, what is the question?
[05:58] <tonsofpcs> and test ubuntu's broken shipped package of VLC....
[05:58] <abhi_nav> Vin73, also try updating your bios software. hp proviedes it update
[05:58] <pooky> when using gnome, can anyone suggest a good tiling wm replacement for metacity?
[05:58] <tonsofpcs> >> ok, i just got out of dep-hell.  Do I distupgrade and then reinstall X aand gdm and gnome and all thatt or do i reinstall them then distupgrade?
[05:59] <Vin73> prash: no
[05:59] <pooky> I'm using awesome at the moment, but I keep having weird systray issues
[05:59] <Vin73> prash: only CD ROM
[05:59] <tertl3> what is dep-hell?
[05:59] <tonsofpcs> dependency hell
[05:59] <Vin73> abhi_nav: ok...
[05:59] <prince_jammys> tonsofpcs: why do you have to reinstall that stuff at all?
[05:59] <tertl3> tonsofpcs, I am not familiar with that package
[05:59] <tonsofpcs> when you have things trying to install or remove and they won't due to dependency issues but they lock your system because they're trying to install/uninstall
[05:59] <tonsofpcs> (you can't do anything else until they're fixed)
[05:59] <abhi_nav> how to install thunderbir? i dwonloaed .tar.gz and extracted it now what next?
[06:00] <tonsofpcs> prince_jammys: dep-hell.
[06:00] <mneptok> abhi_nav: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[06:00] <prince_jammys> abhi_nav: install it from the repositories, using apt.
[06:00] <tertl3> tonsofpcs, ubuntu doesnt really have that problem
[06:00] <abhi_nav> mnemon, prince_jammys i downloaded latest version. is latest 3.1 available in apt-get?
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> I would reinstall the apps, then do the dist-upgrade - thats how ive heard its supposed to be done.
[06:00] <tertl3> fedora is another story :)
[06:00] <tonsofpcs> tertl3: tell that to my machine here :)
[06:00] <prash> Vin73, I'd say try karmic. good luck with it.
[06:01] <prince_jammys> abhi_nav: if you build your own, you should follow whatever directions they provide.
[06:01] <tonsofpcs> apt crashed on isntalling a python package about a year and a half ago, i haven't used the system since then due to the issues
[06:01] <tertl3> tonsofpcs, it could be the studio ppa
[06:01] <abhi_nav> prince_jammys, i dotn build. i just downloaded. tar.gz now i dont now what to do next
[06:01] <prince_jammys> abhi_nav: consider installing it from repositories before you venture into this.
[06:01] <abhi_nav> can i check if a software i want to instal which version of it is available with apt-get?
[06:01] <prince_jammys> yes
[06:01] <abhi_nav> prince_jammys, i want latest
[06:02] <tonsofpcs> tertl3: no, it was a standard package that crashed during install due to a server update coincidental with the install
[06:02] <rww> abhi_nav: apt-cache policy packagenamehere
[06:02] <abhi_nav> rww, ok
[06:02] <tertl3> tonsofpcs, idk
[06:02] <tonsofpcs> (or a cron job interfering, it's really not clear)
[06:02] <tonsofpcs> anyway, that's fixed now
[06:02] <tertl3> tonsofpcs, give it a few days and then google it
[06:02] <tonsofpcs> tertl3: it happened a year and a half ago.
[06:03] <ghoti> Are HDMI/DVI-D cables bidirectional?  That is, if I have a cable that was used to take DVI output from a computer to send to an HDMI-capable monitor, can I use the same cable to connect a Beagleboard to a DVI screen?
[06:03] <tertl3> tonsofpcs, do what I did, install Fedora 13
[06:04] <rww> !ot | ghoti
[06:04] <Vin73> prash: ok...is that another version of Ubuntu?
[06:04] <abhi_nav> m back!!! ;)
[06:04] <ghoti> sigh
[06:04] <prash> Vin73, just the previous one (9.10)
[06:04] <abhi_nav> Vin73, previous release of ubuntu. lucid is latest
[06:04] <Vin73> abhi_nav, prash: thanks....
[06:04] <ghoti> Let's say I'm running ubuntu on my Beagleboard, and I'd like to get its output showing on a DVI-capable monitor...
[06:05] <Smooch> !ot |  smooch
[06:05] <prash> Vin73, sorry couldn't be of much help
[06:06] <Vin73> prash: that's OK....I guess nobody has faced this issue before....thanks for your time
[06:06] <Vin73> abhi_nav: thanks for your time
[06:06] <abhi_nav> oh yah Vin73 :)
[06:07] <warace> well the crapy alfa card said it would do 1000mw and it wont let me set more the 501mw heh
[06:08] <warace> feel shammed now
[06:10] <afroman> has anybody been able to enable multi touch gestures on an Alps Touchpad?
[06:10] <thune3> warace: i think recieve sensitivity decreases when you increase output power. 100mW for transmit power is huge. 10-20 would be typical. Unless you are trying to go 1000 meters, you have plenty of power.
[06:12] <warace> hmmm I am trying to increase the card to recieve a better signal from my brothers room which is all the way in the other side of the house a bit far
[06:14] <warace> recieving now but the card works better in windows with the driver the factory provided
[06:15] <thune3> warace: maybe also play with the iwconfig "sens" variable, change channels, and consider setting frag to 512.
[06:16] <warace> tried all channels on router he is on the cleanest one
[06:16] <warace> hmm i am guessing sens is for sensitivity
[06:17] <afallenhope> hey is there a way of stopping this blinking wifi thing..
[06:18] <prash> afallenhope, is that a dell.  BTW did dual boot work?
[06:18] <thune3> warace: reading up on it i'm not sure 'sens' really does anything anymore
[06:19] <abhi_nav> afallenhope, blinking 'wifi'?
[06:19] <warace> thune3 thanks
[06:19] <Smooch> afallenhope: did it install?
[06:19] <afallenhope> prash,  worked beautifully! helps when you try and boot into Windows and not the recovery ram drive.. and abhi_nav  yes prash  it's a HP dv7
[06:20] <Pondera> hey how do i enable shmconfig?
[06:20] <warace> I think I will buy a higher dBi antena
[06:20] <thune3> warace: if you are just surfing and stuff, wireless-b band tends to have better range (11M and less in rate setting)
[06:20] <abhi_nav> afallenhope, it blinks when there is data transmission. nothing odd in it
[06:21] <Random832> Pondera: were you told you needed to do that to configure your touchpad?
[06:21] <afallenhope> abhi_nav,  yeah but it's kinda annoying
[06:21] <ats> #python
[06:21] <abhi_nav> afallenhope, i like that ;)
[06:21] <afallenhope> abhi_nav, that's great but it should have an option to disable
[06:21] <warace> hmmmm just moved the antena and the strength went up quite a bit
[06:21] <abhi_nav> afallenhope, hmm
[06:21] <Pondera> no here but i figued thats why multi touch wasnt working random832
[06:22] <ats> hello can anybody help me out here in google authentication
[06:22] <warace> thune3 I guess this will do good enough heh
[06:22] <ats> hello can anybody help me out here in google authentication?
[06:22] <prince_jammys> ats: explain.
[06:22] <prash> afallenhope, Try this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/rtcvrn6L
[06:22] <ats> prince_jammys, I want to authenticate my websites to google
[06:22] <Random832> what tool are you using to try to set it up
[06:23] <Random832> see what settings xinput lets you set
[06:23] <prince_jammys> ats: seems outside of the realm of this channel
[06:23] <Pondera> the default one ii gues
[06:23] <prince_jammys> ats: surely google must provide some docs for this. and a way to search for them ;)
[06:24] <Pondera> only thing ive been able to do is 2 finger rightclick
[06:24] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[06:24] <ats> prince_jammys, Yes, I tried AOuth, But i could not get the results i wanted
[06:24] <raddy> I want to download some big stuff via git.
[06:25] <raddy> Is there a good GUI client to download stuff from git?
[06:25] <shafi> can't access my yahoo and facebook accounts from my workplace, how can I resolve this problem?
[06:25] <Roasted> at one point on my laptop, I had a monitor connected to it with dual screen. I no longer have the monitor connected, yet about 50% of the time I boot up, it still thinks its connected cause windows often launch on that window. Its an intel card. What can I do? It gets VERY old booting up to find my login screen is gone because its on the 2nd monitor that doesnt exist.
[06:25] <Random832> Pondera: what are you trying to do?
[06:25] <baltazor> hello, who update compiz to 0.9 on ubuntu 10.04?
[06:25] <abhi_nav> raddy, what is git?
[06:26] <afallenhope> prash, didn't work
[06:26] <raddy> abhi_nav: Do you know what is svn?
[06:26] <user1_> ikonia : u there?
[06:26] <abhi_nav> no
[06:26] <ats> prince_jammys, Yes, I tried AOuth, But i could not get the results i wanted
[06:26] <baltazor> ?
[06:26] <prash> afallenhope, sorry.  Then remove the file "sudo rm /etc/network/if-up.d/myStopBlink"
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> shafi:  learn how to setup ssh tunnles to your home pc.
[06:26] <ats> can anyone tell me where can i get a sample code for google authentication of a websites
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> shafi:  and hope you dont get fired.
[06:26] <baltazor> hello, who update compiz to 0.9 on ubuntu 10.04?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> baltazor:  there might be a compiz PPA that has newer versions. that would be the easy route
[06:27] <prince_jammys> ats: i don't know the solution, but this channel is unlikely the place to get an answer.
[06:27] <pooky> Anyone have experience using a tiling wm with gnome? I'm trying awesome but I'm having issues with getting my systray to work properly
[06:27] <ats> ok
[06:27] <shafi> Dr_Willis, haha, I have open-ssh on my home pc, what to do next?
[06:27] <afallenhope> They should have just put a setting that allowed you to enable / disable it
[06:27] <user1_> can someone help me with usb 3.0 partition? lucid seems to fail with 256gb pen drives
[06:28] <ats> quit
[06:28] <afallenhope> it's really annoying and from my understandign can burn out the LED
[06:28] <baltazor> Dr_Willis: what is PPA where is compiz 0.9
[06:28] <user1_> spent almost a night with gruelling pain all over
[06:28] <Roasted> no laptop video experts here?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> !ppa | baltazor
[06:28] <raddy> Can anybody help me?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> shafi:  read up on 'ssh tunnles' and set one up.
[06:29] <abhi_nav> afallenhope, partition using livecd?
[06:29] <shafi> Dr_Willis, ok, tnx
[06:29] <mikeds> does ssh tunnel allow you to see a GUI?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> mikeds:  it routes teh connection, so the local apps can use it for the network connection.
[06:29] <afallenhope> abhi_nav, huh? i did yeah.. everything worked now it's the stupid LED thing I'm trying to stop
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> mikeds:  Or you can ssh to a remote. run an app. and have it appear locally. If you set it up right
[06:30] <afroman> Roasted: not an expert, but I have had a few issues myself
[06:30] <abhi_nav> afallenhope, that wifi blinking led?
[06:30] <user1_> Dr_Willis: how do we find a solution to usb which partitions but doesnt retain data when unmounted
[06:30] <afroman> Roasted: what do U need?
[06:30] <afallenhope> abhi_nav, yes
[06:30] <Roasted> afroman,
[06:30] <Roasted> at one point on my laptop, I had a monitor connected to it with dual screen. I no longer have the monitor connected, yet about 50% of the time I boot up, it still thinks its connected cause windows often launch on that window. Its an intel card. What can I do? It gets VERY old booting up to find my login screen is gone because its on the 2nd monitor that doesnt exist.
[06:30] <abhi_nav> oh no sorry afallenhope i want to answer user1_
[06:30] <abhi_nav> user1_, try partitioning from live cd?
[06:31] <mikeds> Roasted: I guess the Function key was not the issue?
[06:31] <baltazor> Dr_Willis: not found :(
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  could be hardware related. Is this a USB flash drive or a usb hard drive?
[06:31] <abhi_nav> afallenhope, and for yor blinking led i dont know solution but i know that it will not burn your led.
[06:32] <Roasted> mikeds, well sometimes I boot and its 1 screen, but not the right resolution. that key doesnt fix the resolution on the fly. :(
[06:32] <ilhuicamina> Hello, i'm new using ubuntu, i installed it yesterday but, i think i have a bug....could someone help me?
[06:32] <user1_> abhi_nav : no live cds. i did partition from gparted on my lucid. it went through fine . i created a fat32 parition. then i mounted it and wrote some data. ejected and data is gone when mounted again
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> baltazor:  i got a hit when i googled for 'compiz ppa'
[06:32] <afroman> Roasted: did U try sys-->pref-->monitors
[06:32] <user1_> Dr_Willis: it is a kingston 256gb usb drive
[06:32] <Roasted> afroman, yes. But when I reboot, sometimes it doesnt hold the settings.
[06:32] <Roasted> Sometimes it does, other times it doesnt.
[06:32] <Loshki> afallenhope: just stick a bit of tape over it...
[06:33] <abhi_nav> user1_, in last month when i do very same thung as u gparted destroyed my pen drive. now it cant be detected
[06:33] <afroman> Roasted: it should hold the settings
[06:33] <devzero> hi i want to know if ubuntu netbook work with the wireless card Atheros AR5007EG chipset AR2425 without wifimad or ndiswrapper
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  take hd out of usb enclosure. try it on  a sata/ide connection and see if it still has same issue. It very well could be the hd is going bad.
[06:33] <abhi_nav> user1_, mine also same lucid
[06:33] <Roasted> afroman, it does not. Most of the time it does, but I sat here and rebooted 5 times and bingo - didnt hold the settings
[06:33] <afroman> Roasted: did U press apply?
[06:33] <Roasted> afroman, came back with 1024x768 resolution when native is 1280x800
[06:33] <Roasted> afroman, of course. :P
[06:33] <Roasted> afroman, I hit apply and just kept rebooting
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  unless you are meaning its a 256gb FLASH drive? thats a big big. :)
[06:34] <Roasted> it was fine.b ut then one time it came back with 1024x768. Had no idea why.
[06:34] <ilhuicamina> i have a problem with the go-home-applet
[06:34] <Roasted> its been doing this... not sure how to fix it.
[06:34] <user1_> Dr_Willis: its a flash drive. not a enclosure
[06:34] <Roasted> it started on 9.10, but I formatted and put 10.04 on it about 3 days ago. I have my partitions separate (home and root are separate) and I formatted root, but kept my home directory in tact.
[06:34] <Roasted> yet it STILL happens. even tho I formatted root.
[06:34] <afroman> Roasted: coz I know that just by going to pref-->monitors the settings usual adjust themselves automatically
[06:34] <Roasted> no idea why
[06:34] <user1_> Dr_Willis: that's the problem. but it's detected and everything is fine. the OS is not supporting it if i am not wrong
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  i dident even realize they made them 256 GB in size..
[06:34] <Pondera> ok is there a program for photos where its like a "tabletop" and i can manipulate the pictures like zoom with to finger, toss them to the side and move them around all using my touch pad ?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  thats possible.. but ive never seen/tried any that large.
[06:35] <Roasted> afroman, if it thinks Im in dual monitor mode (which I can tell by sliding the mouse over ot the far right, itll just keep going). and I go to sys pref monitors, it fixes itself right away.
[06:35] <devzero> hi i want to know if ubuntu netbook work with the wireless card Atheros AR5007EG chipset AR2425 without wifimad or ndiswrapper
[06:35] <user1_> Dr_Willis: the directory size is 16kb and not normal 4kb
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  try making a small partition at the front. try some 'other' os to partition it perhaps?
[06:35] <Roasted> afroman, BUT, sometimes it gives me 1024x768 resolution when I use 1280x800.
[06:35] <devzero> ?
[06:35] <devzero> is an aspire one
[06:35] <Roasted> afroman, that doesnt fix instantly. I have to re-set that.
[06:35] <Roasted> afroman, then of course it screws up my arrangement of things in the upper right corner of the panel.
[06:35] <Roasted> afroman, total pain... and shouldnt be that way... just trying to figure out if theres a fix.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> devzero:  most parts in netbooks are decently well supported.  - whats the specific # of aspire one? theres several out now.
[06:36] <afroman> Roasted: did U try to fix it throu xorg?
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> devzero:  for my Older AAO. it works  out of the box.
[06:36] <user1_> Dr_Willis: did all kinds of experiments. the problem is it writes and when re mounted it says the used space is that much but contents are empty
[06:36] <etyrnal> is there a way to change the step duration of Particle emission?
[06:36] <devzero> and old AOA110
[06:36] <etyrnal> (2.49a)
[06:36] <Roasted> afroman, I dont have a xorg.conf.
[06:36] <Roasted> afroman, I was told I didnt need a xorg.conf and the fact I dont have one means xorg.conf isnt the issue.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> devzero:  mine is about a year and a half old now - no issues with it.  You could always test with a flash drive and the netbook edition
[06:37] <Pondera> ok is there a program for photos where its like a "tabletop" and i can manipulate the pictures like zoom with to finger, toss them to the side and move them around all using my touch pad ?
[06:37] <afroman> Roasted: which one do U have?
[06:37] <ilhuicamina> i really need help here, could someone help me?
[06:37] <Roasted> afroman, which what? graphics card? An intel.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> !ask | ilhuicamina
[06:37] <afroman> if it's not xorg, which do U use instead?
[06:38] <Roasted> afroman, I never set anything up. I just installed ubuntu 10.04 and everything worked. I didnt install any video drivers - none were available. I assume theyre integrated in the kernel since its an intel and intel is pretty awesome with drivers.
[06:39] <devzero> so, just try live mode in ubuntu netbook if it work? // if it have to install the driver with madwifi or ndiswrapper what can i do if i havent a cable internet conexion?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> devzero:  i alwyas plug in a cable. :)
[06:40] <ilhuicamina> oh, sorry....you see...i have a problem but i don't know what is causing it, when i turn my computer on, and i try to open any apply...it umm minimizes, and send me to home
[06:40] <afroman> Roasted: try in a terminal "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and tell me what U see
[06:40] <devzero> i havent
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> devzero:  i havbe 1 laptop out of 4 that ive had to use a cable to get the drivers.
[06:40] <Roasted> afroman, I did that earlier - its blank
[06:40] <Roasted> afroman, I CD'd into /etc/X11 and xorg.conf didnt exist.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> devzero:  if not . then theres a little bit of work involved.
[06:40] <Roasted> I'm telling you - I do not have a xorg file. I just don't.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> devzero:  i found it easier to find a cable/connection.
[06:41] <devzero> jajaja
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> devzero:  but with my AAO's ive never had to do that
[06:41] <devzero> but if i add on a usb pen, the drivers and midwifi
[06:41] <alex87> i'm looking for an online ticketing system that handles some sort of workflow (osticket does not), any ideas?
[06:41] <devzero> but i have problems for compile it
[06:42] <devzero> to install the headers and others...
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> devzero:  ive not had to ever 'compile' the wireless drivers.   Ive heard of others just having to download the proper .debs and moving them over/installing. but never compiling
[06:43] <devzero> no no no for the drivers to compile the wifimad app to install driver
[06:44] <Pondera> ok is there a program for photos where its like a "tabletop" and i can manipulate the pictures like zoom with to finger, toss them to the side and move them around all using my touch pad ?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> devzero:  no idea.  You are getting ahead of yourself. its possible you wont need to do any of that . try a netbook cd/usb and see if it works.
[06:44] <abhi_nav> fspot?
[06:44] <devzero> ok
[06:45] <afroman> Roasted: xorg isn't a driver
[06:45] <devzero> if didnt work i come back here
[06:45] <devzero> xD
[06:45] <Roasted> afroman, I know.
[06:45] <Roasted> afroman, but its not like my desktop where I have an nvidia driver to install via hardware drivers.
[06:45] <Roasted> afroman, I did not install a driver, and I do not have a xorg file. period.
[06:45] <abhi_nav> Pondera, fspot?
[06:45] <afroman> Roasted: I got that
[06:46] <Pondera> f spot has a table top like feature abhi_nav
[06:46] <afroman> but U also need to understand that if U don't have xorg U must have another otherwise U would have an image
[06:46] <afroman> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
[06:47] <afroman> there are several types of X window system
[06:47] <abhi_nav> Pondera, dunno. but it is nice software!
[06:47] <abhi_nav> Pondera, check their features
[06:51] <afroman> Roasted: I did say I wasn't an expert, if U had xorg I could help U more but now...
[06:51] <afroman> sorry
[06:51] <Roasted> afroman, yeah, not sure man. I thought I should have one, but others said its not a big deal if I dont have oen *shrug*
[06:51] <Roasted> afroman, I guess it has something to do with me having an intel, since intel seems to have stuff integrated in the kernel since their drivers are typocally open source.
[06:52] <shauno> Roasted: xorg.conf used to be mandatory (it's the config file afterall).  it isn't anymore.  xorg will use it if it's there, or default to autodetect if it's not
[06:52] <user1_> which parition table should i create in my usb flash  drive. if i install msdos it will recognize only fat32 filesystem
[06:52] <shauno> so whether you have it or not, neither's 'wrong'
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  basically thats the only partition table ive ever used.
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  you may be able to use a differnt filesystem if you use fdisk instead of gparted (if thats what yiou are using)
[06:54] <afroman> shauno: so now how should Roasted proceed?
[06:55] <Roasted> yeah. it gets very old having to "reset" everything after a fresh reboot
[06:55] <Roasted> doesnt happen every time, but enough to make me go wtf?
[06:55] <SailorReality> what do you people think of Linux Mint?
[06:55] <Roasted> I like linux mint, but its so close to ubuntu, I have no idea why it really exists.
[06:55] <Roasted> however, theres a channel for mint discussion.
[06:55] <SailorReality> whatis it
[06:56] <Roasted> its a distro based on ubuntu
[06:56] <user1_> Dr_Willis: ok. but will i have to have a boot flag for one of partitions on flash drive so that it recognize others. and also a OS there!! this seems quite a research!
[06:56] <abhi_nav> !mint > SailorReality
[06:56] <shauno> afroman: (and Roasted,) if autodetect isn't doing what you want, it's probably time to switch to using an xorg.conf
[06:56] <SailorReality> i just installed it becuase my screen kept on fucking up in ubuntu i hope it doesnt happen
[06:56] <Roasted> shauno, how can I generate a xorg file
[06:56] <abhi_nav> SailorReality, take that to mint channel
[06:56] <abhi_nav> !language > SailorReality
[06:56] <SailorReality> k thanks
[06:56] <Roasted> G rated here man :P
[06:57] <Roasted> been banned several times for letting it slip
[06:57] <SailorReality> lol
[06:57] <shauno> Roasted: not entirely sure. it's been a while since I've used linux on a desktop.  personally, I'd start by looking to see if there's an example under /usr/share/doc somewhere
[06:58] <afroman> shauno: speaking of xorg, U wouldn't happen to know how to enable multi touch gesture on an alps touchpad?
[06:58] <shauno> Roasted: apparently xorg takes a -configure option that'll spit on out based on what it's autodetected so far
[06:59] <shauno> afroman: no idea.  use linux on servers, not laptops, sorry
[07:01] <afroman> shauno: cool. thx anyway
[07:03] <delfis> hello, how to change mac for ever? :)
[07:04] <Roasted> lol
[07:04] <Roasted> I googled and found the command to start a new xorg file
[07:04] <Roasted> evidently a server is already active
[07:04] <Roasted> too bad a xorg file doesnt exist
[07:05] <prince_jammys> you may use X -configure  for this
[07:06] <Roasted> ah wait
[07:06] <Roasted> I found another guide that says I needed to CTRL ALT F1 at login screen, stop GDM, then run the command
[07:06] <Roasted> I ran it just in regular mode and got the error
[07:07] <Roasted> yeahhh I got a xorg.conf now. gonna reboot like 10 times and see what happens :P
[07:07] <prince_jammys> good luck
[07:08] <Roasted> NOOOOOOO
[07:08] <ivano> #ubuntu-it
[07:08] <Roasted> I rebooted ONE time and my resolution showed up borked
[07:08] <Roasted> Wow
[07:09] <Roasted> Come on, Ubuntu. Fricken work.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> delfis:  you have to put some command to set the mac in some startup file i imagine. You dont reflash the network card to change the mac.
[07:09] <FloodBot1> Roasted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:09] <delfis> hmm
[07:09] <delfis> networs file or something
[07:09] <delfis> as i remember was good
[07:09] <prince_jammys> delfis: you're not doing something evil, are you?
[07:09] <delfis> choice for me
[07:09] <delfis> no, my network needs specific mac
[07:10] <prince_jammys> ah
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> theres some of the various if??? commands  that can set teh mac.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> but ive not had to do that in years
[07:12] <Roasted> however, once I ALT F8'd (my laptop hot key to switch the monitor) it DID bring back my resolution AND placed my icons properly... thats a +1 I didnt see before.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> Or one can google for 'change mac ubuntu' and get a good hit as #1 --> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/
[07:12] <Roasted> however, I just rebooted again, and I have no login screen. Why dont I have a login screen? Because it is on the 2nd monitor THAT DOESNT EXIST
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> Roasted:  what was the chipset anyway?
[07:13] <Roasted> an intel. sec. logging in
[07:13] <Roasted> Ill lspci it
[07:13] <Roasted> pretty sure its a GMA4500 I think??
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> Ah intel. Hmm. This is a laptop?  or a desktop with 2 video cards?
[07:13] <robertzaccour> when i use recordMyDesktop to record screencasts with cheese open I notice that the audio seems fine during the recording, but is behind afterwards. is there a way to fix it?
[07:13] <Roasted> laptop
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Roasted:  there is those special fn-XXX keys on laptops that toggle the external/lcd/ monitors. I had one weird laptop that would default o the external. Untill I hit those keys and set it to use the LCD. and only had to do that ONCE. after that  it worked fine :)
[07:14] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, Ill keep that in mind. Hopefully its all I have to do.
[07:15] <Vin73> hi, can someone tell me where can I find instructions on the old version of grub for Ubuntu (grub legacy)
[07:15] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, my big pet peeve before was  sometimes it wouldnt hit the right resolution. It would default to a lower resolution. So when I finally got the resolution reset, it would change the arrangement and palcement of my icons in the upper right corner.
[07:15] <IdleOne> !grub | Vin73
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> Roasted:  i thought display was borked.. but i heard the startup sounds.. so it had me confused for a long time.. THEN as a lark. i was going to hook up a external.. and  i plugged it in. but never plugged in the power to the external. :)  hit thise keys trying to get it enabled.. and the lcd started working
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> Roasted:  ages ago I had a Video card default to the TV out...
[07:15] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, I dont have ab ottom panel, I use docky, so I put the items in my bottom panel at the top panel, so I have more going on in my top panel than normal. As a result, I like things organized in a certain order. wifi icon, sound, battery, clock, show desktop, workspaces, etc.
[07:15] <prince_jammys> Vin73: if you still have it installed, you may also consult the manual for details.
[07:16] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, so it was just a PITA to reset everything because my laptop didnt find the right resolution. ya know?
[07:16] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, but since creating the xorg file, when I ALT F8, it finds the placement of icons just fine - which is weird...
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> gnome is annoying in how it likes to rearange things
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> ive gotten where i remove most things from my panels. :) and dont use docks much either
[07:17] <Roasted> I dont have a problem with gnome re-arranging it, per se. It only happens when the resolution si borked.
[07:17] <Roasted> It resets them based on the new resolution.
[07:17] <Roasted> so I reset it and it screws up.
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> that is gnome rearangeing them. :) then not rearangeing them back
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> I was suprised at how well my Netbook handled an external monitor.
[07:18] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, it rearranges fine w/ xorg being existent, though
[07:19] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, I hope what you said is the same in my case
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> again. i had to twiddle with the settings and the fn-KKeys the first time.. but after that if i reboot with monitor in. it uses it.. if not - it uses the laptops lcd.
[07:19] <Roasted> where hitting the key combo 1 time "sets in stone" that setting to my laptop
[07:19] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, I dont use laptops much - Im a desktop guy. I ALWAYS forget those keys exist - yet I work in IT. How lame?
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> Roasted:  i think it very much deopends on the chipset. Ive seen them default to internal, external, and in one case. tv out. :)
[07:20] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, but in each instance, once you "set" it, did it default to that setting?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Roasted:  theres been a dozen people in here we have had to 'explain' those keys to - over the years. :)
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Roasted:  it seemed to rember.
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> this is with  4+ different pc's and laptops. :)
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Roasted:  on an nvidia desktop system. it VERY mich depends on the exact chipset/video card.
[07:22] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, well in my experience, desktops dont tend to change much. For me, I travel w/ a laptop, but I like to dual screen when I'm at my desk at work, which is like twice a week.
[07:22] <Roasted> so I bounce through monitors now and then at work, whereas at home I have the same old 2 monitors connected since day 1
[07:22] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, those FN key combos are saved @ BIOS level, right?
[07:24] <ilhuicamina> Yesterday, my go-home-applet went wrong, it didn't worked anymore. When i restarted my laptop everytime i tried to open a application it send me back to the home page...and it does the same everytime i restart my computer...sometimes i can't make it stop. Do you know what can i do to repair it?
[07:25] <Roasted> oh no
[07:25] <Roasted> Dr_Willis
[07:25] <ikonia> user1_: did you want me
[07:26] <Roasted> just booted up, login screen isnt there. must be on "2nd montitor"
[07:26] <user1_> ikonia: yes. same problem
[07:26] <ikonia> user1_: same problem ?? what problem
[07:26] <user1_> ikonia:  even after creating usb partition
[07:26] <user1_> ikonia:  256gb usb flash drive
[07:26] <ikonia> user1_: please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l "
[07:26] <Roasted> I hit ALT F8 twice, it fixed it, and I logged in - but of COURSE I have 1024x768 resolution
[07:27] <Roasted> come the fk on ubuntu
[07:27] <Roasted> work. please. just work.
[07:27] <ikonia> Roasted: control your langauge
[07:27] <Roasted> lol
[07:27] <ikonia> I'm not laughing
[07:27] <Roasted> :)
[07:27] <student_> how do i autohide docky 2.1.0 in karmic?
[07:27] <student_> sorry if this is the wrong channel for this
[07:28] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, any idea?
[07:28] <student_> :/
[07:29] <abhi_nav> student, right click on docky icon there is option?
[07:29] <Tibman> happy 4th everyone!
[07:29] <student_> right click = settings
[07:29] <abhi_nav> hmm
[07:29] <student_> docky settings @ abhi-nav
[07:30] <student_> oh
[07:30] <student_> i see it !
[07:30] <student_> !_!
[07:30] <abhi_nav> !tab > student_
[07:30] <student_> it says hiding = none
[07:30] <maxime_> !fr
[07:30] <Tibman> probably not the best time to ask this, does anyone know how to make hard drives automatically mount at start up?
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Roasted:  not really. after i got the display working. it worked right after i rebooted then
[07:31] <opsec> i've eaten my own boogars, cum, scabs, tasted my own poop and piss too...
[07:31] <student_> thanks i overlooked the hiding feature
[07:31] <vlt> Tibman: Put a line in /etc/fstab
[07:31] <student_> since it wasn't a check off type thing
[07:31] <abhi_nav> student_ ok
[07:31] <geowany> lol
[07:31] <tasslehoff> the webpage says that 64 bit Ubuntu is "not recommended for daily desktop use". what exactly is it recommended for then? I have a Dell with a 64 bit i7, and think 64 bit sounds good on paper :)
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> tasslehoff:  then use it.
[07:32] <abhi_nav> !64
[07:32] <ilhuicamina> !es
 i have been using ubuntu for 2 days, how do I do that?
[07:32] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, hmm, well no luck here... Its one thing if I just need to FN F8 now and then to get it to reset, but what gets me is there are times even if I do that, it logs in with 1024x768 resolution instead of 1280x800.
[07:32] <Roasted> thats what bohters me
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> tasslehoff:  theres been bug reportsd files to try tio get that page changed
[07:33] <tasslehoff> Dr_Willis, good :)
[07:33] <tasslehoff> thanks
[07:33] <vlt> tasslehoff: I use it every day.
[07:33] <Tibman> tasslehoff: it means that not all applications are currently available for x64, so although it is about 5 or 10% faster than x86, you  may not find all the applications you will use in everyday use
[07:33] <tasslehoff> vlt, and you are happy? :)
[07:34] <vlt> tasslehoff: There's nothing that doesn't work (that would on x86).
[07:34] <abhi_nav> I use 64 lucid. I face no problem. not even of any aps. flash wors good too.
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> I can think of ONE appliction that ive used thats not ported to 64bit. :)
[07:34] <Tibman> vlt, i thought no current version of flash 10.1 was available for x64
[07:34] <abhi_nav> which one?
[07:35] <tasslehoff> Thanks guys. I will go with 64 bit then.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav:  zsnes - :) but theres other snes emulators that are
[07:35] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis, ohh ok
[07:35] <mneptok> tasslehoff: be aware, Adobe recently cancelled development of the 64-bit version of the Flash plugin, and pulled all downloads. to use Flash, you need to use the 32 bit version and a plugin wrapper.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav:  aparently it was written years back with large parts of assembly code. :)
[07:35] <abhi_nav> Tibman, its just closed temporaily they will release official 64 flashs sooon
[07:35] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis, hmm
[07:35] <vlt> Tibman: flash isn't available at all (it's closed source and binary only)
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> mneptok:  im not sure they actually 'cancled' it - last i check their offical  statement was 'its not cancled.. we just dont want to release any actual plans at this timne'
[07:36] <abhi_nav> nice application!! ;)
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> mneptok:  unless thers been changes in the last 2 weeks that ive not see
[07:36] <mneptok> abhi_nav: Adobe has not released any details about firther Flash x86-64 development, so saying "soon" has no basis in fact
[07:36] <mneptok> *further
[07:37] <abhi_nav> mnemon, they have used that work on that web site. I read it
[07:37] <abhi_nav> word*
[07:37] <mneptok> abhi_nav: so it should be no trouble for you to provide a URL
[07:37] <Tibman> I have only been using ubuntu for 2 days so can anyone explain how to make hard drives automatically mount at start up?
[07:37] <mneptok> !fstab | Tibman
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> tim__b:  2what filesystem is the hard drive in question?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> Tibman:  2what filesystem is the hard drive in question?
[07:38] <vlt> Tibman: Look at an example line in /etc/fstab. For the <source> field you can choose between a device name (like /dev/sdb1), a UUID (that's a random number assigned when formatting the file system you want to mount) or simly a LABEL (which can be assigned while creating the fs too or later using `tune2fs -L ...`)
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> Tibman:  technically you mount 'filesystems' not drives. :)
[07:38] <Tibman> DR willis: my filesystem is ext3 and the other ntsf
[07:38] <Niglop> how do i delete a user?
[07:39] <abhi_nav> mnemon, cant say. need to check. because i ddnt book mark it becuase its not available. but what I read meaning was or what I understood was = ' thy are not dropping whole 64 bit project they are just closing temporarily becaus ethey are doing major architecture changes in it. after that chagnes they wll release it officialy' let me see if i can find that url
[07:39] <abhi_nav> Niglop, again from users and group only
[07:39] <Tibman> why thank you dr for clearing that up
[07:39] <Niglop> kk ty ;p u still remember :p
[07:39] <mneptok> abhi_nav: i don't doubt that. but tell me where  you get the concept of "soon"
[07:39] <mneptok> abhi_nav: they could release the x86-64 version in 15 years and what you quoted will still be true
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Tibman:  for ext3 you want a normal fstab entry for them like the examples in fstab. for ntfs. you can try installing/running the ntfs-config tool and it should add the proper entries automatically, and have some check box's for other options
[07:40] <abhi_nav> mneptok, in that case it is 'soon' only because all knw that they will not take 15 years. 1year can be a 'soon' for me and it is ok
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Tibman:  learning how linux handles filesysmtes/fstab and how ntfs differs.. is worth learning about. :)
[07:40] <abhi_nav> i dont see any problem in 1ysr 'soon'
[07:41] <mneptok> abhi_nav: you do not know that. so please don't say "soon" when the developer has not said "soon"
[07:41] <vlt> Tibman: I prefer using LABEL=... entries because they can be self-descriptive and device names could change when replacing disks or other hardware
[07:41] <abhi_nav> mnemon, then? what should I say? leave 64 os because there is no 64 bit flash?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Tibman:  yea. Using Labels like vlt says  makes fstab look a lot neater. but you need to set lables on all the filesystems then.
[07:41] <abhi_nav> mnemon, its common sense. i have that guess from reading their web site. i am trying to find it
[07:41] <mneptok> abhi_nav: say exactly what you put in quotes above.
[07:41] <abhi_nav> ok
[07:42]  * Dr_Willis waits for flash to to the way of java.
[07:42] <Tibman> Dr. Willis, thank you for the pointers. I will read some tutorials.
[07:42] <mneptok> Dr_Willis: Orcale is not going to buy Adobe ;)
[07:42] <mneptok> *Oracle
[07:42] <Tibman> good night everyone
[07:43] <vlt> Tibman: No, you can mix LABEL entries and device entries in fstab (other than Dr_Willis said)
[07:43] <Niglop> why have i got to be root to remove stuff from my external device?
[07:43] <Niglop> lol
[07:43] <vlt> Niglop: Depends on the permissions
[07:43] <Zevs> join #aros
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> mneptok:  give it a year.. and we will see.. soon we will all be using 'realplayer' again i bet! :)
[07:43] <abhi_nav> Niglop, you can change permission and give authority to your standard account to act as admina account
[07:43] <Niglop> i made a new user and copied the exact same home directory over and one is 5g and the other is 12g :s?
[07:44] <vlt> Niglop: How did you copy it?
[07:44] <abhi_nav> mneptok, from my perception of view 1year is come under 'soon' and i tell him in that way. and I wll. I dont see any problem in 1yr
[07:44] <Niglop> through the folders
[07:44] <mneptok> Dr_Willis: Real Networks was the only job interview i actually walked out of.
[07:45] <mneptok> abhi_nav: one last time. Adobe *never* gave a time frame. ever. your "one year" assertion is all in your head.
[07:45] <vlt> Niglop: There are many folders that might be invisible in file browsers. I'd prefer rsync for this taks
[07:45] <Niglop> abhi_nav:  it says i have all privilages, but its not in the group "root" is that why?
[07:45] <vlt> *task
[07:45] <abhi_nav> mnemon, yes in my head
[07:45] <Niglop> vlt what files example please
[07:45] <Niglop> i might not need them
[07:45] <mneptok> abhi_nav: go look at the Wikipedia entry for Duke Nukem Forever
[07:46] <abhi_nav> Niglop, you goto users and groups edit your account there is third tab something called 'adcaned' or like there is second option 'administor the system' select that
[07:46] <vlt> Niglop: In *nix systems file names starting with "." are hidden (if you not explicitely tell your "ls" command to show them)
[07:46] <Niglop> third tab is user privilages
[07:47] <Niglop> vlt i know but what files ?
[07:47] <vlt> Niglop: I don't understand your question.
[07:47] <abhi_nav> mnemon, so you want me to recommend newcomers that' hey atleast 15 years for 64 bit flash. leave your 64bit os right now. go for 32 bit'
[07:47] <abhi_nav> ???????
[07:48] <Niglop> vlt what type of files are the "invisible" ones?
[07:48] <Niglop> abhi_nav:  the third tab is user privilages
[07:48] <vlt> Niglop: Those beginning with a dot
[07:48] <Niglop> i know they are hidden..
[07:48] <Niglop> but are they important?
[07:48] <abhi_nav> Niglop, yes there only select second option 'administrator the system'
[07:48] <Niglop> abhi_nav:  its already checked
[07:48] <abhi_nav> Niglop, :(
[07:49] <vlt> Niglop: Depends on your setup. Programs usually store their whole config in such directories
[07:49] <abhi_nav> mneptok, , so you want me to recommend newcomers that' hey atleast 15 years for 64 bit flash. leave your 64bit os right now. go for 32 bit'
[07:49] <abhi_nav> ;)
[07:49]  * Dr_Willis goes back to CP/M
[07:49] <vlt> Niglop: .kde for example or .gnome ...
[07:49] <Niglop> its okay, i made new config files
[07:49] <ivano> #ubuntu-it
[07:49] <abhi_nav> ivano, /j #ubuntu-it
[07:49] <Niglop> yes thats why i made a new user :p i wanted to start gnome from fresh
[07:49] <Niglop> but thanks
[07:50] <mneptok> abhi_nav: one last time. say what you said in quotes above. nothing more.
[07:50] <abhi_nav> mnemon, :(
[07:50] <vlt> Niglop: I've seen programs like kooka storing all scanned images in a hidden directory ...
[07:50] <Niglop> i dont know what kooka is lol
[07:50] <Niglop> i dont scan
[07:50] <Niglop> abhi_nav:  how can i fix it :p?
[07:51] <abhi_nav> Niglop, what? i was not here? what was the issue?
[07:51] <Niglop> admin thing is already checked
[07:52] <abhi_nav> Niglop, i am confused that, you are talking about your default admin account itself or you want to add power to your standard account? I dont understand that because if problem in admin account itself then i dont know.
[07:53] <Vin73> what does LVDS stand for?
[07:53] <Niglop> i made a new account abhi_nav  and it has all privilages but i still have to sign in as root to edit files on my external device :s?
[07:55] <abhi_nav> Niglop, add it to admin group. actualy I am in now my standars account so cant give you exact details.
[07:55] <shauno> Vin73: not sure the exact letters, but it's a signalling system most commonly used for LCDs
[07:56] <user1_> ikonia : are you here>
[07:56] <Niglop> kk ty abh
[07:56] <ikonia> user1_: yes
[07:56] <Vin73> can someone tell me how to disable kms at boot time?
[07:56] <user1_> ikonia: how do you look at the usb problem?
[07:57] <ikonia> user1_: as I explained to you in pm, I don't wish to help at this time
[07:57] <ikonia> but I can say it in the channel if that helps. "I don't wish to help at this time"
[07:57] <user1_> ikonia: which time is suitable for helping community members
[07:58] <ikonia> user1_: there are plenty of people in the channel who may be available to help
[07:58] <user1_> ikonia: everyone failed . you seem to have some ideas
[07:58] <bazhang> user1_, address the channel, don't target individuals
[07:59] <user1_> bazhang: ok
[08:00] <Vin73> hello?
[08:01] <abhi_nav> what is kms Vin73 ?
[08:02] <Langdon666> hey
[08:02] <abhi_nav> !hi | Langdon666
[08:02] <Langdon666> njjhfig
[08:02] <Langdon666> ??
[08:03] <abhi_nav> Vin73, here they given process to turn on kms. see if you can just revers it to tun it off? http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-turn-on-kms-at-ubuntu-jaunty-and.html
[08:07] <preved_medvedik2>  Hi all
[08:09] <user1_> bazhang & ikonia : http://pastebin.com/8kfjFq5G  . this is o/p of fdisk -l
[08:11] <bazhang> user1_, please explain your issue with some greater detail to the channel; if someone knows they will certainly help
[08:13] <sonicbomb77> How do I switch view of mail accounts in evolution if I have multiple accounts setup? I am only able to view the inbox for one account.
[08:13] <user1_> i am unable to retain the data on usb flash drive on remounting it. it is around 256gb . have tried partitioning it as primary, extended and all sizes. but there is some problem which is happening even though used space is shown to be the size of object copied
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  just as a 'test' you have tried teh same drive on a windows machine?
[08:15] <user1_> Dr_Willis: on xp yes. not on vista or windows 7. but shouldnt lucid be far better than them?
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  no idea. Its a test as i said.
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  this is a 256GB USB flash drive right?
[08:16] <user1_> Dr_Willis:yes
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> so you were able to make a 256gb NTFS partition on it in XP? that seemed to work?
[08:17] <user1_> Dr_Willis: no it doesn't retain data there either
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  so under XP it also fails to  work.
[08:17] <user1_> Dr_Willis:yes
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> Track down a Vista/Win7 box and see if it also fails for them. Its sound more and more like some odd hardware issue to me.
[08:18] <robertzaccour> how do i record video with recordMyDesktop without audio?
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  so has this thing worked on ANY os  in any way?
[08:19] <prash> user1_, just out of curiosity what make is this drive?
[08:19] <user1_> prash: kingston data traveller
[08:19] <pepee> I'm trying to make the 64bit plugin work in firefox
[08:19] <user1_> prash: firmware version 3.0
[08:19] <prash> user1_, did you google and see if anyone else has this issue?
[08:19] <pepee> it isn't. however, the 32bit one works just fine
[08:20] <prash> user1_, also, did you update the firmware from their website (if applicable)?
[08:20] <user1_> prash: update firmware ! how?
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> ive never even heard of flashing firmware for a usb flash thumbdrive
[08:20] <user1_> does lucid have any packs?
[08:22] <prash> user1_, sorry missed the flash drive part.  Thought it to be the USB HDD
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> prash:  yea. ive never seen a 256GB USB flash drive either. :) that would be high $$$
[08:23] <prash> Dr_Willis, I am still in the 16GB, 32GB flash age . lol.
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> prash:  yep. Im waiting for 16gb's to get reasonable
[08:24] <dean[w]> I added my msn contact list to empathy, im online
[08:24] <dean[w]> but how do i bring up the contact list?
[08:26] <jan-pieter> In gnome you can switch user. Then you end up back at the login screen and the account you are coming from remains logged in. I want to do the same thing from the command line. Is that possible?
[08:26] <noobuser> hey guys, i uninstalled gdm on my ubuntu 10.04 partition, now i cant boot, im on liveUSB at the moment is there away i can chroot and reinstall it?
[08:27] <ikonia> noobuser: why can't you boot it - what's theerror
[08:27] <ikonia> the "error"
[08:28] <Jordan_U> noobuser: Yes, just mounting your Ubuntu partition, chrooting into it, and "apt-get install gdm" should work.
[08:28] <ikonia> he shouldn't need to
[08:28] <ikonia> gdm will not stop it booting
[08:28] <noobuser> ikonia, there is no error..., i had problems with booting prior (i had to boot through recovery mode -> restart x option) so i wanted to reinstall gdm to see if that helped, instantly my computer shutdown, now it wont boot into gnome
[08:28] <ikonia> noobuser: do you get a command prompt when you boot ?
[08:29] <noobuser> Jordan_U, could you pm me a list of commands?
[08:29] <A[D]minS> Hello , How i can show remaining unused space of Physical Disk ?
[08:29] <noobuser> ikonia, no
[08:29] <ikonia> noobuser: then gdm is not your problem
[08:29] <A[D]minS> fdisk -l not helpful , any other idea?
[08:29] <ikonia> noobuser: so re-installing it will do nothing.
[08:29] <ikonia> noobuser: what do you get on your screen
[08:29] <ikonia> (when you boot)
[08:29] <Jordan_U> noobuser: What exactly happens when you boot?
[08:29] <prince_jammys> A[D]minS: df
[08:30] <chrisdone> anyone know why the left Windows key on a Das Keyboard does nothing on Ubuntu? it doesn't trigger super_L or hyper_L
[08:30] <noobuser> ikonia, if i install gdm i will be able to boot with the recovery mode option atleast, then fix the other problem
[08:30] <A[D]minS> prince_jammys: unused space of Physical Disk  "Not Formated"
[08:30] <ikonia> noobuser: no you won't
[08:30] <ikonia> noobuser: what do you see on the screen when you boot
[08:30] <prince_jammys> A[D]minS: ah, sorry.
[08:30] <noobuser> it just loops
[08:30] <ikonia> what lopps
[08:30] <noobuser> as in shutsdown after grub
[08:30] <ikonia> what's on the screen
[08:30] <ikonia> no it doesn't
[08:30] <noobuser> black
[08:30] <ikonia> explain what you see
[08:31] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:31] <noobuser> i see grub, press enter on the first entry, get a black screen for a few seconds, then see the computer acer startup thing, then grub again
[08:31] <ikonia> noobuser: ok - so that's nothing to do with gdm
[08:32] <noobuser> i know, thats my other problem
[08:32] <noobuser> so i try recovery mode
[08:32] <ikonia> noobuser: installing gdm won't make it boot
[08:32] <noobuser> and restart x which normally works, but because gdm isnt installed restart x option doesnt work
[08:33] <noobuser> ikonia, installing gdm will let me boot into graphical recovery mode
[08:33] <prash> user1_, One last format from XP and then I guess it is time for an RMA/return.
[08:33] <ikonia> noobuser: I disagree
[08:33] <noobuser> there are two problems, i cant boot, i dont have gdm thus i cant boot recovery
[08:33] <ikonia> noobuser: if you cant boot the OS (which you can't) you won't be able to boot recovery mode, and if you can boot recovery mode, you don't need gdm
[08:33] <user1_> prash : ok i will try it
[08:33] <solifex> noobuser: Sounds to me like the kernel doesn't start up, even if X fails to start you should end up at the command line.
[08:33] <prash> user1_, FWIW, do exactly like:  http://www.kingston.com/support/howtodt/default.asp?type=x3
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  as a last ditch efford. you could 'zero' the thing with the proper dd command.  and then try to repartition it.
[08:34] <ikonia> solifex: it hardware reboots, so X won't make a difference
[08:34] <Gumby> does a touchpad mouse usually show up in lspci?
[08:34] <prash> user1_, You can try what Dr_Willis suggested.   But you may have to re-create the partition table.
[08:34] <noobuser> solifex, if i choose the command line option from recovery mode then i can login and command line and such
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> You definatly will. :)
[08:35] <user1_> Dr_Willis: what is the proper dd command?
[08:35] <solifex> noobuser: Can you start X from there then?
[08:35] <noobuser> i dont know howto
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/WHATEVERDONTGETTHISWRONG   bs=1024
[08:35] <prash> user1_, first make sure /dev/sdb is your flash drive
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  that will Totally zero out the whold drive. deleteing everything
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  i had to do that once ages ago to a 4gb flash
[08:36] <chirpis> Hi guys.  I have an Asus wl-130g wireless card in an old desktop on which I just installed kubuntu.  It seems to recognize the card, but it shows no available networks.  Do I need a different driver?
[08:37] <chirpis> I'm running kubuntu 10.04, amd64.
[08:37] <solifex> noobuser: You could try the command "startx", if that does not work you need to edit the .xinitrc file and add "exec gnome-session"
[08:37] <user1_> Dr_Willis: is it not equivalent of deleting and formatting partitions of drive which i have done so many times
[08:37] <noobuser> startx didnt work
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  this is lower level then formating/deleting
[08:38] <prash> user1_, It is more than that.   I suggest trying 'fdisk' to partition the drive.  then reboot.. THEN reformat.
[08:39] <Jordan_U> noobuser: Do *not* do what solifex suggested.
[08:40] <Jordan_U> solifex: That will log him into gnome as root.
[08:40] <prince_jammys> huh?
[08:40] <user1_> Dr_Willis: ok. format to what - fat32 or ext3?
[08:40] <solifex> Jordan_U: Not unless he's running as root that is?
[08:41] <chirpis> Anybody? Do I need to give more info ro something?
[08:41] <user1_> Dr_Willis: never did ext3 got recognized
[08:41] <Jordan_U> solifex: Which, since he's in recovery mode, he is.
[08:41] <Jordan_U> noobuser: "apt-get install gdm" from that shell, then "service gdm start". But I agree with ikonia that you have bigger problems than GDM.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  try vfat i guess.
[08:41] <chirpis> Hi guys. I have an Asus wl-130g wireless card in an old desktop on which I just installed kubuntu. It seems to recognize the card, but it shows no available networks. Do I need a different driver?
[08:41] <chirpis> I'm running kubuntu 10.04, amd64.
[08:42] <user1_> ok.
[08:42] <noobuser> Jordan_U, i cant, i dont have internet connection from that shell. im using a wireless adapter
[08:43] <noobuser> i need to chroot and install gdm. i dont know how
[08:44] <chirpis> What do I need to tell in order for my question to be acknowledged?
[08:44] <vlt> noobuser: `chroot /your/root` and there run `aptitude install gdm`
[08:45] <Pirate_Hunter> chirpis, maybe going to #kubuntu and asking their might help
[08:45] <noobuser> what do i replace, your root with, /dev/sda1?
[08:45] <chirpis> kubuntu is dead.,
[08:46] <chirpis> I doubt this issue is specxific to kubuntu.
[08:46] <robertzaccour> chirpis, when did kubuntu die? its more widely used than Xubuntu and Xubuntu ain't dead
[08:46] <shauno> noobuser: a path, not a device.  so wherever the disk is mounted
[08:46] <chirpis> I mean #kubuntu, the channel.
[08:46] <robertzaccour> oh ok
[08:47] <Pirate_Hunter> chirpis, its not dead but neither alive its zombified and yeah it may not be specific to kubuntu,h however I can't help
[08:47] <student> ....
[08:47] <robertzaccour> kde has more of a windows desktop look than the others
[08:47] <vlt> noobuser: Depends on where your root fs is ;-)
[08:47] <student> 2222
[08:47] <bazhang> !cn | student
[08:48] <chirpis> Is ndiswrapper something that is still used?
[08:48] <bazhang> student, /join #ubuntu-tw
[08:48] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, yes
[08:49] <chirpis> Would it be worth trying?
[08:49] <psycho_oreos> what is the chipset of your wireless card?
[08:49] <chirpis> rt2560f
[08:50] <psycho_oreos> humm check dmesg, you might be missing firmware or firmware is incompatible (though I very very highly doubt it)
[08:52] <noobuser> how do i find where my root filesystem is mounted
[08:52] <vlt> noobuser: What exactly did you do before?
[08:52] <vlt> noobuser: I mean, are you running from a live cd?
[08:53] <noobuser> yes
[08:53] <chirpis> I'l be back in a while.
[08:53] <vlt> noobuser: Then you have to mount it yourself
[08:53] <noobuser> i did
[08:53] <vlt> noobuser: What does `blkid` tell you?
[08:54] <vlt> noobuser: Aah, then look at the output of `mount`
[08:54] <noobuser> nothing
[08:55] <vlt> noobuser: You need root permission to get a useful result from `blkid`
[08:55] <noobuser> woot i did it
[08:55] <noobuser> i chrooted in thanks
[09:01] <Ranger91> hi everyone
[09:02] <Ranger91> does anyone here run Windows7?
[09:02] <Vroomfondle> On occasion. Why?
[09:03] <Ranger91> well im trying to delete the flat map pack and replace it with the one freshly posted in the repository, whats the best way to go about removing the old one?
[09:04] <kraut> moin
[09:04] <Flannel> Ranger91: In Windows Seven?
[09:05] <Ranger91> right
[09:05] <Flannel> Ranger91: ##windows would be the best place to ask that
[09:05] <Ranger91> alright ill give them a shot, first time using this chat thing so kinda noobish
[09:05] <Flannel> Ranger91: No worries.  `/join ##windows` will get you there
[09:06] <Ranger91> alright
[09:06] <zipper> hi any1 knows how to install vmware on linux?
[09:07] <zipper> hi any1 knows how to install vmware on linux?!?!?@?!??!
[09:07] <iceroot> zipper: go to the vmware site and donwload the deb, maybe thing about using virtualbox which is supported from ubuntu and in the repos
[09:08] <zipper> iceroot, i have checked
[09:08] <jan-pieter> does anyone know how to automatically login a user that is hidden from the list of user on the login screen?
[09:08] <zipper> iceroot, there is no deb there i just downloaded something that can be installed in linux but not able to install it
[09:09] <iceroot> zipper: vmware has a deb
[09:09] <zipper> iceroot,  i can also install virtualbox right?
[09:10] <iceroot> zipper: sure, virtualbox can also read vmware-images
[09:10] <zipper> iceroot, i can install it from ubuntu software centre right?
[09:10] <Vin73> hi any idea which is the config file used by apt-get
[09:10] <zipper> iceroot is the appl called virtualbox ose?
[09:10] <iceroot> zipper: yes, the one in the ubuntu repos doesnt have usb-support, only the non-free version
[09:10] <iceroot> zipper: yes
[09:10] <Vin73> I need to set the http_proxy there
[09:11] <zipper> iceroot, thanks
[09:11] <Vin73> doesn't work if I set the same on the bashrc
[09:12] <Vin73> Hello?
[09:16] <Firstgear> Anybody know how to get midi working on ubuntu. I got my soundfont copied into /usr/share/sounds/sf2 and I loaded up the soundfont with qsynth but I still get no midi playback. Anybody know what else I could check?
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> !vmare | zipper
[09:17] <Gevz> hello
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> !vmware | zipper
[09:17] <zipper> THANK YOU Dr_Willis i missed u
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  you may want to use virtualbox these days instead
[09:17] <Gevz> i have a problem with history in Google Chrome, can somebody help me?
[09:18] <pitcher> hello, ive problems with a Fritz Wlan N stick. I get only a 54 mbit connection (lucid 64bit). is ar9170usb limited to 54 mbit?
[09:18] <koshie> Hi all
[09:18] <koshie> Anybody know what is the process "backend" ?
[09:19] <koshie> He take 98% of my CPU :/
[09:19] <koshie> I don't like it...
[09:19] <zipper> Dr_Willis, do we need to have to windows cd to setup the virtual xp thingy?
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> koshie:  winff is a 'frontend' to the ffmpeg program as its 'backend'
[09:19] <koshie> And I need root to kill him.
[09:19] <koshie> I'm not sur to understand.
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  to install windows in a vm. you need a cd or iso file and  a valid serial# same as a real machine.
[09:19] <koshie> sure*
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> koshie:  ive never heard of a program called 'backend'
[09:20] <koshie> Me too
[09:20] <koshie> It's a bug Dr_Willis !
[09:20] <koshie> Info from the ubuntu-fr forum :)
[09:20] <zipper> Dr_Willis, i have the valid serial but i dun have the cd =(
[09:21] <koshie> It's when you run a test of the system on Uubntu
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  how were you expecting to install 'xp' without a copy of xp?
[09:21] <zipper> zipper, yea something like that =.="
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> huh?
[09:23] <chirpis> I'm back.  I didn't notice anything amiss in dmesg, but I didn't really know what to look for.  I noticed it calls my card rt2500pci, which seems correct.
[09:23] <Gevz> Google Chrome not save history, why?
[09:24] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, pastebin your dmesg output
[09:24] <Gevz> and I can't sync my account
[09:24] <Gevz> what the problem?
[09:24] <chirpis> Ok, hold on.  It'll take a while because my desktop isn't online. :)
[09:25] <wessel_> dumela
[09:25] <funcrush> Hi, I got WD my passport essential 500GB (extenal drive), but it is not recgnized in Kubuntu and it sounds just tik, tik, tik,... anybody help me?
[09:25] <Vin73> hello can anyone tell me how to set the proxy for apt-get
[09:25] <wessel_> anyone have a vuvuzela??
[09:25] <pitcher> hello, ive problems with a Fritz Wlan N stick. I get only a 54 mbit connection (lucid 64bit). is ar9170usb limited to 54 mbit? how can i force draft n?
[09:26] <psycho_oreos> funcrush, that's a hardware related issue, the drive either does not have adequate power or is dying
[09:26] <bazhang> !ot | wessel_
[09:27] <Shady31748> Çäåñü åñòü ðóññêèå?
[09:27] <psycho_oreos> pitcher, if the AP also supports 802.11n, you might be able to enable n on the device
[09:27] <bazhang> Shady31748, /join #ubuntu-ru
[09:28] <pitcher> psycho_oreos 802.11n is enabeled on the ap, win7 connects with 160 mbit from the same computer (dualboot)
[09:28] <funcrush> psycho_oreos: well.. do u mean that I can't resolve it ?
[09:29] <psycho_oreos> pitcher, you might want to try iw phy phy0 info
[09:30] <NeoCicak> hi... i'm having problem with my soundcard (Creative X-Fi) on ubuntu 64... has anyone experienced the same problem?
[09:30] <psycho_oreos> funcrush, you might, but its not really related to ubuntu or kubuntu
[09:30] <Beelsebob> so… something weird is going on here… http://paste.lisp.org/display/112154 <— this is the first time I've logged into this box in over two days, so it's not like sudo timed out… why on earth did it not ask for my pw the first time?
[09:31] <funcrush> psycho_oreos that's too bad.... anyway thanks you :)
[09:31] <psycho_oreos> funcrush, no worries, you might want to try ##hardware
[09:31] <Beelsebob> psycho_oreos: #hardware is not for supporting random driver issues on random platforms
[09:31] <Beelsebob> it's for discussing hardware
[09:32] <Beelsebob> said platforms' channels are where driver issues are dealt with
[09:32] <psycho_oreos> Beelsebob, that isn't a driver issue afaik, that's a hardware issue if the hard drive clicks
[09:32] <Beelsebob> (i.e. here)
[09:32] <Guest83036> got linux on my nintendo ds.  What problems will I run into if I add karmic repos to sources.list on lucid?
[09:33] <funcrush> Dr_Willis: it is usb powered.
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> konryd:  very bad idea. could totally make a ubnbootable system
[09:33] <funcrush> psycho_oreos : thank you very much, I'll search a help in there.
[09:34] <konryd> Dr_Willis, sounds like a problem indeed, thanks :)
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> funcrush:  on some of my USB powered drives - they had special cables that had 2 usb conectors on one end. (the end that went to the pc) that gave them extra power. If i did NOT use that 3 headed connector cable. thye wouldent work properly
[09:34] <zipper> Dr_Willis, i can download the windows installation thingy from microsoft website right?
[09:34] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, looking at the logs I can see there was hardly any dramas with the driver, so you're saying that it wouldn't list any APs or the device cannot be seen?
[09:34] <pitcher> psycho_oreos: iw phy phy0 info detects bitrates up to 54 mbit but the ap ist definitivly configured to b,g,n mode
[09:34] <funcrush> Dr_Willis: whatis 3 headed cable?
[09:34] <chirpis> It won't list APs, but I know they're there.
[09:35] <pme> Guest83036: Nice, how'd u do that?
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> funcrush:  2 cables taht go into the pc. one that goes into the hd. like i just described
[09:35] <NeoCicak> hmmm apparently X-Fi doesnt work on lucid 64 bit
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> funcrush:  3 usb conectors total. 2 for pc. one for HD.
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> funcrush:  like  the letter 'Y'
[09:35] <psycho_oreos> pitcher, there's the issue right there :) iw phy phy0 info shows the info for the connected device (or the first detected wireless device), so in that case, the driver is limited to 54Mbps
[09:36] <funcrush> Dr_Willis: i see.
[09:36] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, hmm go into terminal and try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[09:37] <zipper> Dr_Willis, u thereeee?
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  hmm?
[09:37] <zipper> Dr_Willis, i can download the windows installation thingy from microsoft website right?
[09:37] <chirpis> No change. :(
[09:37] <funcrush> Dr_Willis : Can i use any cable ('Y')? well... i mean the HD depend on specify cable.
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  download windows from microsoft? No idea.
[09:37] <psycho_oreos> I thought the rules of ubuntu topics were strictly enforced :) if not then I'm presuming in funcrush's case, it might also be unpowered USB hub, or underpowered USB hub, or using the front USB ports of the computer where the power supply maybe insufficient
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> funcrush:  my usb HD came with such a cable. If you have one. try it.
[09:37] <zipper> Dr_Willis, because i do not know isit this 1 or not can u check for me .. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310994
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  i dont plan on doing any microsoft research. try #windows
[09:38] <funcrush> psycho_oreos, Dr_Willis: thank you for helpming me. I'll try  :)
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> psycho_oreos:  yea. ive had to use the 2 ends of the cables on differnt usb ports and other places on one pesky HD.
[09:39] <pitcher> psycho_oreos: ok, so the module ar9170usb is not limited to 54mbit? its caused by the driver ar9170.fw? thnx for ur support
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> I cant figure out why only some external USB Hd's use the Y cables and not others.
[09:39] <valium> hi all - i have a 64bit 10.4 Ubuntu server here that wont reboot.  It looks like its getting stuck on starting a service.  Im completely lost with the new UPSTART system, what can i do to see whats failing
[09:39] <psycho_oreos> Dr_Willis, hehe, had that happening on me other portable hard disk, also USB1.1 ports usually don't provide enough power at times
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> valium:   services shouldent be hanging  the system really.
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> valium:  theres the 'text' option that should show all the text messages at boot up.
[09:40] <psycho_oreos> pitcher, no the ar9170.fw is simply a firmware.. I'm presuming its just the driver itself that is restricting to 54Mbps
[09:40] <funcrush> psycho_oreos, Dr_Willis: maybe it resolved. I used extension line for the HD. After remove the line, it works well :) thanks
[09:40] <chirpis> psycho_oreos: I tried that, but it didn't change anything.
[09:41] <valium> Dr_Willis - what do you thinki could be hanging it?
[09:41] <psycho_oreos> funcrush, sounds like overpowered hence clicking, had that happening as well
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> valium:  hard to tell. you can edit the grub menu for a 1 time test  you wan tto change a line like the following -->  linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic root=UUID=83bc3df7-b039-445c-82c9-e0c5ff235044 ro nofb
[09:41] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, ok, try disabling networkmanager temporarily from managing wireless and after executing that command, try sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning
[09:42] <funcrush> psycho_oreos: Thank you :)
[09:42] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, if that yields nothing, check the last few lines of dmesg, it may show why
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> to be  linux .... yadda yadda....  text               (instead of the nofb/quiet/whatever) at the end
[09:42] <valium> Dr_willis - I would but its grub2
[09:42] <psycho_oreos> funcrush, no worries, though you should thank Dr_Willis as well
[09:42] <Mrono> i'm having a problem trying to install linux-image-2.6.31-20-generic
[09:42] <funcrush> psycho_oreos Yup :)
[09:42] <funcrush> Dr_Willis: Thank you, again :)
[09:43] <kaushal> hi
[09:43] <kaushal> can someone please guide me about my post on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-July/004402.html
[09:43] <Mrono> more specificly, trying to install tcl
[09:43] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, how do I disable networkmanager?
[09:43] <psycho_oreos> pitcher, if you're desperate, you might, might be able to enable 802.11n using ndiswrapper, but don't hold your breath and don't expect perfection either
[09:43] <Mrono> http://pastebin.com/spam.php?i=h03zutj0
[09:44] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, right click on network manager icon and uncheck the box labelled `enable wireless'
[09:44] <pitcher> psycho_oreos: the n stick is directly supportetd by the kernel (out of the box) . according to the wiki the module ar9170 schould be able to handle draft n. perhaps i will give the ndiswarpper a chance
[09:45] <psycho_oreos> pitcher, yeah it is supported by kernel but that doesn't mean you will necessarily get 802.11n capability straight out of the box either.. I have one other card that doesn't have 802.11n capability yet even though it has a native driver available
[09:45] <Mrono> Sorry, didn't look at the page, http://pastebin.com/h03zutj0 is what i'm getting with apt-get install tcl
[09:47] <tomatto_> hi
[09:47] <MattoD> Hi all, a bit of a newb question, I am currently using server 9.04 do you strongly recommend upgrading to 10.04
[09:48] <tomatto_> please, do have ubuntu 10.04 drivers for intel graphics card for playing games on ibm lenovo s10e netbook?
[09:48] <gueest> Mattod, anserw is: why not?
[09:49] <psycho_oreos> MattoD, I'd read the release notes of 10.04 prior to upgrading.. and I'd advise against upgrading as it is hardly ever done cleanly
[09:49] <MattoD> ah right, i did try to upgrade via the desktop to 9.10 and that failed
[09:49] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, no scan results.  dmesg says, ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready.
[09:50] <MattoD> so that was unclean
[09:50] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, hmm and you have made sure networkmanager is not managing wireless at all?
[09:51] <psycho_oreos> MattoD, in my past experiences I have had failed upgrades so I refused to go down the upgrade path.. if I were to put a new version, I'd do a clean install
[09:52] <MattoD> ok will do thx psycho_oreos
[09:52] <psycho_oreos> MattoD, no worries
[09:52] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, how do I check?
[09:53] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, by going through the same process as disabling wireless on network manager but not unchecking the box
[09:54] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, I thought unchecking the box is how you disabled it?
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> valium:  that text option is new in 10.04 and works with grub2
[09:54] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, correct and you repeat the same process except you don't check the box, you just make sure by seeing if the box remains unchecked
[09:55] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, ok, it's still unchecked, and I get the same results.
[09:55] <tomatto_> please, do have ubuntu 10.04 drivers for intel graphics card for playing games on ibm lenovo s10e netbook?
[09:55] <mataks> how to add a program in start up that needs root
[09:55] <abhi_nav> hey m back!!!
[09:55] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up && sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> mataks:  depends on the program and whats its doing
[09:55] <valium> Dr_Willis - i only can get into the system via recovery mode now. ;(  its got a whole financial departments info on it
[09:55] <anang> hai...
[09:56] <valium> how does ubuntu paid support work?
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> valium:  the 'text' option basically just disables plymouth and gdm, so you can see whatever boot up messages.
[09:56] <toyman61> Ubuntu 10.04: Windows has an excellent video editing program called Pinnacle. With this it is possible to load a DVD-video (VOB) (i.e. recordings from a DVD-recorder taken from a TV channel), remove the commercials and then save it back as a DivX-movie (suitable for playing over the network on a home theater unit). This is done as a one-pass operation. Is anything similar possible on Ubuntu 10.04 ?  I have tried avidemux, but I'm not ful
[09:56] <toyman61> ly satisfied. Wine does not run Pinnacle.. :-(
[09:56] <valium> Dr_Willis - what file do i edit to add the text option
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> valium:  its a GRUB menu line you can edit to try it the first time
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> valium:  from teh grub menu. not a file.
[09:57] <abhi_nav> valium, http://www.canonical.com/consumer-services/support
[09:57] <A[D]minS> How i can show remaining unused space of physical disk  "Not Formated"  ? fdisk -l not helpful. any ideas?
[09:57] <valium> Dr_Willis - when i hold down the shift key all i get is recovery mode and stardard kernel mode
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> line like -->  linux /vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic     <OTHERSTUFF>  quiet text
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> valium:  and theres an EDIT option at that screen
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> valium:  its a grub feature
[09:58] <psycho_oreos> A[D]minS, try df -h
[09:58] <abhi_nav> A[D]minS, just delete that partition
[09:58] <A[D]minS> psycho_oreos  "Not Formated"
[09:58] <A[D]minS> abhi_nav: , psycho_oreos i want to know the size of unformated space!
[09:58] <psycho_oreos> A[D]minS, ah, thought it was mounted, my bad
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> A[D]minS:  you mean what 'unallocated' space remains?
[09:59] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, still no results
[09:59] <abhi_nav> A[D]minS, yes u wll. use gparted
[09:59] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, do you have some other wireless manager software running? such as wicd, etc?
[09:59] <valium> Dr_willis - ill reboot and check it out
[09:59] <A[D]minS> abhi_nav: is there any tool through CLI
[09:59] <abhi_nav> A[D]minS, duuunnnooo
[09:59] <psycho_oreos> A[D]minS, probably parted
[09:59] <psycho_oreos> gparted is the frontend of parted
[10:00] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, nop, I don't think so.
[10:00] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, not convincing when you say you don't think so, hmm
[10:00] <A[D]minS> woooow psycho_oreos well done :) parted
[10:00] <A[D]minS> thx alot
[10:01] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, how do I check?
[10:01] <psycho_oreos> A[D]minS, no worries, though abhi_nav solved the other part
[10:01] <valium> Dr_Willis - ok I have edited it - will Ctrl-X write to file
[10:01] <abhi_nav> :)
[10:02] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, that is the part that I'm looking at right now, in the meantime, I'd try and trace back what you installed.. did it used to work before?
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> valium:  its not writingot a file. its a 1 time thing
[10:02] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, it has never worked.  This is pretty much a fresh install.
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> valium:  do the changes.. ctrl-x to exit/boot
[10:03] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, weird, because in one sense it does not seem to be a driver issue (which can be apparent if you're running 64bit), on the other hand I do recall you said you installed 64bit version
[10:03] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, well, it worked in an older version of ubuntu, maybe 8.
[10:04] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, yeah, it's 64 bit.
[10:04] <tomatto_> please, is some graphical application to mounting iso files?
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> tomatto_:  thers one in the repos i saw that adds a mount iso.. to the context menu. but its trivial to do it by hand
[10:04] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, ok, run iwevent and let it sit there for about 5 minutes
[10:05] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, actually once you done that, and am waiting for 5 minutes, tell me
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[10:05] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, with networkmanager still disabled?
[10:05] <Gorlist> hi, quick question. I want to secure my tmp and var/tmp directorys. Is using a loopback just as good as making a new partition?
[10:05] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, for wireless part, yes
[10:06] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, ok, it's running.
[10:06] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, open up another terminal and type in sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor
[10:07] <valium> Dr_Willis it gets to a point where it says running scripts /init/bottom then the graphics card drops in and the screen clears then a small cursor onthe top left appears.  Blinking.  but the system halts.  If i hit ALT+CTRL+DEL is begins shutdown
[10:07] <tomatto_> Dr_Willis: do you remember name of application?
[10:07] <andy_> ubuntu 10.04 won't reboot (when I use the reboot menu item from the panel and when I hit ctl-alt-del). When I click on either of these, nothing happens, anyone had this before?
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> valium:  if you do the recovery mode it doesd go to a console then?
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> tomatto_:  nope.
[10:07] <mataks> how to add a program in start up that needs root
[10:07] <valium> Dr_Willis - no same thing
[10:08] <rww> !boot | mataks
[10:08] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, it says it's busy.
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> valium:  and it started doing this when exactly
[10:09] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, ok, do this: sudo ifconfig wlan0 down && iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor && ifconfig wlan0 up
[10:09] <prash> tomatto_, right click the iso and use archive mounter to mount it.
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> mataks:  clarify what the program is doing and that will  let us know 'where' it needsd to start at. "startup" is a little vague.
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> prash:  i dont think archivemounter is installed by default.
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> !find archivemounter
[10:10] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, ok, that worked, and it showed up in iwevents.
[10:11] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, hmm ok, do the same thing except replace the word monitor with managed, and then wait
[10:11] <mataks> Dr_Willis, im trying to run a keylogger in start up called linux logkeys which needs root
[10:12] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, ok.
[10:12] <valium> Dr_Willis - i just rebooted this afternoon.  The machine is only a couple of weeks old
[10:12] <valium> Dr_Willis - when i rebooted it just failed to come up
[10:12] <Megaviv> Hello
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> valium:  Hmm . thers been a lot of updates this week. can you ssh into the box? (if you have ssh installed)
[10:13] <chiiiiiz_> Hello!!
[10:13] <Megaviv> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook OS on my Lenovo 3000 N200 Laptop
[10:13] <valium> Dr_Willis - its starting
[10:13] <asehdev> hey, i have read the troubleshoot guide, i cannot get the scroll function to work on my laptop from the keypad. Can anyone help??
[10:13] <Megaviv> So I thought it'll be good asking for some help in here
[10:13] <valium> Dr_Willis - Failed to load Nvidia Kernel module is the message now
[10:14] <Megaviv> I've tried reconfiguring the BIOS's Boot Order to begin with the USB drive, but it failed to work
[10:14] <Megaviv> and so it passed on to the OS on the hard drive
[10:14] <pseud0cod3r> hello guys my gwibber client doesnt work with ubuntu
[10:14] <devzero> hi guys
[10:15] <devzero> i have a problem
[10:15] <s3r3n1t7> Megaviv, Try to keep it on one line. This channel is rather busy so filtering out what you said over multiple lines takes quite some time and efford
[10:15] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, any updates so far?
[10:15] <valium> Dr_Willis - please PM me your paypal account and I will make a donation
[10:15] <Megaviv> Forgot telling the Ubuntu is currently being held in an SD memory Card
[10:15] <devzero> http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/481/pantallazogg.png
[10:15] <pseud0cod3r> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/sm1ThUM4 here is the report
[10:15] <devzero> here is the shootscreen
[10:15] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, no, it just showed that the mode was changed.
[10:15] <veleno> hello. i'm looking for a software solution to easily manage a cluster of pc machines. the softwar should allow wake-on-line, PXE, deploying linux/windows images and some basic reservation system. Suggestions? i've found http://www.fogproject.org but it only deploys windows images apparently
[10:16] <psycho_oreos> chirpis, my guess is that it could be an issue with the driver, you might also want to try your support in #linux-wireless.. but before you do that, try the backports.. I presume you're running lucid right?
[10:16] <pseud0cod3r> anyone could help
[10:16] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, right
[10:16] <AdrianBroher> I'm currently trying to set up a network installation with a preseed file for a multi-boot system. When partitioning the hard drive the installer complaints about the fact, that the ntfs partition is not mounted to a mount point. How can I suppress this warning?
[10:17] <cha0xm1nd> heya all
[10:17] <devzero> cannot get volume.fstype.alternative
[10:17] <devzero> :S
[10:17] <pseud0cod3r> !help
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> valium:   Hmm. sounds like you may need to reinsatll the nvidia drivers. or perhaps move/rename the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get it to  try  the older drivers/settings
[10:17] <G_G> I upgraded my ubuntu from 9.4 to 9.10 but i am having issues with my graphics drivers
[10:18] <G_G> i need to reinstall them, what is the easiest way?
[10:18] <chirpis> psycho_oreos, how do I try the backports?
[10:19] <Megaviv> OK, Sorry... I'll tell it all over again, as a complete post: I have a Lenovo 3000 N200 and an SD card on which an Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Version OS is held. Nothing happened when I inserted the card into the slot when Windows was on, and so I tried reconfiguring the BIOS's boot order to try booting form the Memory Card's slot as first, but this method failed, and the BIOS passed on to the regular Windows OS.
[10:19] <Megaviv> What can I do?
[10:19] <blacktortilla> how do i authenticate if my account doesnt use a password to login and im admin
[10:20] <Megaviv> hello?
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> blacktortilla:  if you mean the account 'autologins' thats diffrent then not having a password
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> blacktortilla:  you can still autologin and have a password
[10:20] <blacktortilla> whats the password then
[10:20] <blacktortilla> i dont remember setting one
[10:20] <Megaviv> Is there anybody out there who's read my post?
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> blacktortilla:  whatever you set it at the install.
[10:20] <blacktortilla> and if i dont remember?
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> blacktortilla:  then you got some learning/work to do - to reset the password
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> !password
[10:21] <andy_> hello, I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and I cannot get it to reboot using any UI options. Last friday, I had to type "sudo shutdown now" at the command prompt to get it to shut down. When I use any of the UI methods, i.e. click on shutdown or restart, nothing happens. Can anyone help?
[10:21] <devzero> heeeeeeeeeeeelp plz
[10:21] <blacktortilla> lol my bad thank you doc
[10:21] <devzero> my devices dont work
[10:22] <sxp> Hi I would like to know a add-on for firefox, to download audio from Web Pages
[10:22] <devzero> no pendrive
[10:22] <linux_> why
[10:22] <devzero> no usbhd
[10:22] <sxp> not video with audio but, alone audio
[10:22] <devzero> no card reader
[10:22] <sxp> And sorry for my english...
[10:22] <linux_> exit
[10:22] <pseud0cod3r> ops plz help
[10:22] <devzero> when i insert a pendrive or usb hdd
[10:22] <devzero> it say cannot get volume.fstype.alternative
[10:23] <s3r3n1t7> !enter | devzero
[10:23] <pseud0cod3r> !ops
[10:23] <lhavelund> pseud0cod3r: Can we help?
[10:23] <jpds> pseud0cod3r: Hi.
[10:23] <pseud0cod3r> yes gwibber doesnt work with ubuntu
[10:23] <lhavelund> That's something you want to ask the channel about; not the ops :)
[10:23] <pseud0cod3r> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/sm1ThUM4 here is the report
[10:24] <s3r3n1t7> pseud0cod3r, and why exactly are you calling in the ops for that?
[10:24] <pseud0cod3r> ohh sorry
[10:24] <lhavelund> s3r3n1t7: We all make mistakes. ;)
[10:24] <lhavelund> !guidelines | pseud0cod3r
[10:24] <lhavelund> Have a look at those, too :)
[10:24] <finemann> Hi, i just installed cgoban. Since it runs in the X-Window system the fonts are displayed very poorly. Any way i can fix this?
[10:24] <pseud0cod3r> hmm thanks
[10:24] <s3r3n1t7> lhavelund, i'm well aware of that. I'm not blaming him or anything, but I would still like to know
[10:25] <Megaviv> OK, Sorry... I'll tell it all over again, as a complete post: I have a Lenovo 3000 N200 and an SD card on which an Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Version OS is held. Nothing happened when I inserted the card into the slot when Windows was on, and so I tried reconfiguring the BIOS's boot order to try booting form the Memory Card's slot as first, but this method failed, and the BIOS passed on to the regular Windows OS. As a result I tried using th
[10:25] <lhavelund> s3r3n1t7: Well, lesson learned. :)
[10:26] <Megaviv> ubottu, can you help me with this issue?
[10:26] <sxp> http://www.parasaber.com/formacion/aprender-ingles/nivel-0/audio/days-months-and-years/6403/
[10:26] <sxp> this is the link
[10:27] <Megaviv> OK, you havenow made me confused...
[10:27] <sxp> anybody check it please!
[10:27] <rww> Megaviv: I note that your message cut off at "As a result I tried using t"
[10:27] <Megaviv> sxp, is this link intended for my post, or another's?
[10:27] <rww> Megaviv: also, ubottu is a computer script
[10:27] <Megaviv> Cut of?
[10:27] <devzero> help me please my devices dont work... no cardreader, no usbhdd, no pendrive... when i insert one it say: Cannot get volume.fstype.alternative
[10:27] <rww> Megaviv: yes. IRC has a message length limit. You hit it :(
[10:28] <Megaviv> maybe that's the reason why it started making sounds of repeating knocking every key I typed...
[10:28] <Megaviv> OK
[10:28] <Megaviv> I'll fix it
[10:28] <Megaviv> Because I can see the whole message
[10:28] <Megaviv> Wait a min, thanks
[10:28] <sxp> Megaviv, is another thing
[10:29] <sxp> I want to download that sound file and convert it to mp3
[10:29] <sxp> And I do not know how to do that!
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> sxp:  step1 download it. :)
[10:29] <Megaviv> As a result I tried using the built-in feature in the Ubuntu installation window menu which should "help me boot from the CD", nut it had an exception at the end, and the error made it all go in vain. What can I do?
[10:29] <Megaviv> Can you see it now?
[10:29] <Megaviv> it's the remaining part of the message
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> sxp:  downloadhelper firefox extension let me download it. (i think, its still downkloading)
[10:30] <sxp> I have DownloadHelper installed in my PC
[10:30] <Megaviv> rww, are you still there?
[10:31] <devzero> wops
[10:31] <sxp> But I need another plugin... wait me please
[10:31] <valium> Dr_Willis - i think i may have pressed a key that told the system to skip the item that was causing the stall - do you know what key this is?
[10:31] <militan> someone have realbasic 2009r2?
[10:31] <sxp> downloadhelper is working well but I need the plugin to load the Audio
[10:31] <Megaviv> devzero, are you capable of technical knowledge to help me with my issue?
[10:32] <Megaviv> Hello? Is there anybody over there? It;s pretty depressing...
[10:32] <asehdev> the sound is not working on my laptop via ubuntu. Any ideas?
[10:32] <devzero> no man i have problems too
[10:32] <delfis> hello, where is the best place to install program?
[10:32] <root123> erwrw
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> sxp wget http://www.parasaber.com/parasabermedia/ingles/media/200804/17/20080417psainl_1_Aes_LAU.asf
[10:33] <Megaviv> OK, then, I'll try someone else, thanks :)
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> valium:  never noticed such a key.
[10:33] <Megaviv> is there anyway to PM someone through IRC?
[10:33] <root123> hai
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> sxp:  i right clicked on it. had it play in totem. then copied the loction from the playlist.
[10:33] <root123> oh,my god
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> Megaviv:  /msg foo hello
[10:33] <root123> haha
[10:33] <root123> hi
[10:33] <sxp> ok Dr_Willis I will try!
[10:34] <bycarisma> slm
[10:34] <sxp> thanks!
[10:34] <sxp> My problem is solved
[10:34] <sxp> I downloaded the audio with download helper
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> valium:  it could be the thing is fscking the filesystems. there was some key to skip that. Theres often an issue with Plymouth not proerly showing the 'fscking the disks....' messages
[10:35] <rww> Megaviv: oh, sorry, I wandered off for a sec
[10:36] <Megaviv> OK, rww, it's all fine, thank you! So, hve you read the rest of my message?
[10:36] <rww> Megaviv: Do you remember what the exception was that Windows gave?
[10:36] <Megaviv> Ahm, it said there were some missing installation files
[10:36] <Megaviv> It pointed me to the log which has just said the same
[10:37] <quietone> I've just started using ssh and get this error "/home/<X>/.local/share/applications/gnome-system-monitor.desktop for panel launcher: No such file or directory." But X is not a username on either machine. why?
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  using ssh how exctly?
[10:38] <valium> Dr_Willis - or anyone for that matter.  Does Ubuntu 64bit have a problem with AHCI mode for sata disks?
[10:38] <quietone>  Dr_Willis: Hi, ssh -X<EMAIL_ADDRESS>"gnome-panel"
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  im not sure starting gnome-panel that way is a good idea. try starting somtjhing simpiler like gnome-terminal first.
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> valium:  not thast i have ever heard mention of.
[10:39] <rww> Megaviv: Hrm. How did you get the install image onto the SD card?
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> is it ssh -x to enable X forardiong or -X ? one prevents it. :)
[10:39] <delfis> so where to install program? in which folder? i don`t think that /home
[10:40] <valium> Dr_willis - is it okay to use compatible mode ?
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> valium:  not sure what you mean by compatable mode. what is asking to use that?
[10:40] <erUSUL> valium: linux works best with ahci mode in sata controllers.
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> delfis:  depends on what it is. and how you are installing it.
[10:41] <wookienz> hi, i have a fakeraid raid 0 array from a previous version on Windows 7. Now that ihave switched to ubuntu i want to get the array back up and running again... I am having no luck getting it to recognise the array any longer. Any one can help?
[10:41] <Megaviv> rww: I used the instructions at the Ubuntu.com website, which guided me to download universal USB installer and use it to transferr the ISO file I've downloaded into the SD card
[10:41] <erUSUL> !fakeraid | wookienz
[10:42] <erUSUL> wookienz: dmraid is the command to activate fakeraids in linux
[10:42] <delfis> dr_willis but where is the best folder for programs?
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> delfis:  it DEPENDS
[10:43] <delfis> pvbrowser
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> delfis: there is no 'best'
[10:43] <delfis> i will install like this:
[10:43] <delfis> tar -zxf pvb.tar.gz
[10:43] <delfis> cd pvb
[10:43] <delfis> ./clean.sh
[10:43] <delfis> ./build.sh
[10:43] <delfis> su
[10:43] <FloodBot1> delfis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> delfis:  and what does it do? you want it for a single user or system wide? is it source you are compiliong? or a single file or what exactly?
[10:44] <delfis> sorry
[10:44] <delfis> single user
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> then put it somewhere in the users home dir
[10:44] <Pondera> anyone know if i can play games with windows users on skype ?
[10:44] <delfis> ok thanks
[10:44] <wookienz> erUSUL: read all those links - i am trying to re build the array as not to lose the info already on it. So most of those links dont help. I can get the array re built is my issue
[10:44] <abhijain> hello everone i installed windows vista just after ubuntu 10.4 lts and now i am unable to find the grub of ubuntu 10.4 . how can i resolve this problem
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> and make a link to the binaries it makes to the users /home/usernames/bin/whatever   location
[10:44] <rww> Megaviv: hrm. I don't see anywhere where it says that would work with an SD card necessarily?
[10:44] <lxsys> I'm getting a kick-ass four 3.2 GHz xeon processor workstation delivered today, but it has no graphics card. I'm not an expert at graphics. Would anybody be able to advise me on a suitable card? It has AGP and PCI slots, no PCI express. I require something with two VGA outputs and at least 256mb of graphics ram. Thanks in advance.
[10:45] <ujvarosya> hey, what can I do, if I want to copy files form local network through in wired network cable(cross); I'M using the net with wifi, and now it's copying with wlan..
[10:45] <rww> I haven't done it myself, I use a USB stick generally.
[10:45] <erUSUL> wookienz: that would be something to handle in the bios of the array or maybe in the especific tool the motherboard vendor ships ( for windows surely )
[10:45] <linxeh> lxsys: surely it depends on what you want to doo
[10:46] <abhijain> grub issue with vista dual boot and ubuntu 10.4 lucid . unable toa ccess ubuntu .
[10:46] <linxeh> lxsys: this belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic btw
[10:46] <wookienz> erUSUL: it is reporting as fine in the bios - linux just cant see it and mount it
[10:46] <lxsys> linxeh: sorry, i'm going over there now
[10:46] <tomasz> Hi all
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> lxsys:  a new pc that has no pci-express slot?  about any card these days should fit your criteria. IF you can find agp cards :)
[10:46] <abhijain> help plz
[10:47] <abhi_nav> !ask | abhijain
[10:47] <tomasz> I have problem with wine
[10:47] <Megaviv> rww: OK, I'll try it on a USB. I'll simply transfer my USB files to the SD and make the same process with the USB as I've done with the OS to put the ISO and install, probably that's the only solution meanwhile. Thanks, and bye bye.
[10:47] <tomasz> I Install GTA SA but when i run i dont see titles in menu only boxes
[10:48] <tomasz> when i run game it crash
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> tomasz:  check the wine app datasbase for specific games/issues and fixs
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | tomasz
[10:48] <erUSUL> wookienz: when you do « sudo dmraid -ay   » the array does not appear in /dev/mapper/* ???
[10:48] <abhijain> abhi_nav: installed window vista after ubuntu 10.4 and now unable to find the grub of ubuntu . how can i recover it
[10:48] <tomasz> ok thx
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> tomasz:  you may also want to check out the 'play on linux' tool. it can help tweak wine to get some games going
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | abhijain
[10:49] <abhi_nav> !grub2 | abhijain
[10:49] <quietone> Dr_Willis, (gnome-terminal:10216): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_map_unlock_path: assertion `entry != NULL && entry->lock_count > 0' failed"
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  that tells me exactly nothing...
[10:49] <quietone> Dr_Willis, me too
[10:49] <abhi_nav> also abhijain see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:49] <wookienz> erUSUL: no - nothign in dev mapper except "control". dmraid -r gives "/dev/sdb: pdc, "pdc_fhdeecgf", stripe, ok, 486328064 sectors, data@ 0"
[10:50] <jindal> Ubuntu 10.04 supports 5.1 channels with ALC888?
[10:50] <quietone> Dr_Willis, but ssh works both ways. It is freaky having an old username appear in the error msg
[10:50] <abhijain> abhi_nav: i am onn 10.4 lucid
[10:50] <abhi_nav> abhijain, yes go thro that
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  so gnome-terminal works? but gnome-panel dosent?
[10:50] <erUSUL> wookienz: and you do not have a /dev/mapper/pdc_fhdeecgf file?
[10:50] <wookienz> erUSUL: but dmraid -ay outputs "ERROR: pdc: wrong # of devices in RAID set "pdc_fhdeecgf" [1/2] on /dev/sdb" and rhen removes the raid set
[10:50] <wookienz> erUSUL: no, nothing.
[10:50] <abhi_nav> abhijain, you have to restore grub2.
[10:51] <quietone> Dr_Willis, they both work.
[10:51] <erUSUL> wookienz:  wrong # of devices in RAID set  [1/2] it seems to think that there is only a single hard disk in there ...
[10:51] <erUSUL> wookienz: verified that none of the sata cables are loose (power and data) ?
[10:51] <wookienz> erUSUL: my htoughts, but it is built via the bios with sda and sdb
[10:52] <wookienz> erUSUL: ill pastebin fdisk and see what you think
[10:52] <erUSUL> wookienz: something in dmesg about the missing disk ?
[10:52] <wookienz> erUSUL: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/wKCahUu1
[10:52] <jindal> Is 5.1 channel sound (and replication of 2 channel to 6 channel) supported through 3 audio jacks (ALC888)?
[10:52] <erUSUL> wookienz: dmesg | grep -i sd
[10:53] <abhi_nav> abhijain, first go here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[10:53]  * rumpsy after a long break
[10:53] <tomasz> i found the script for playonlinux to gta sa but how it run ?
[10:54] <wookienz> erUSUL: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/AWwyDW4d
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> tomasz:  you instasll PlayOnLinux and use it.
[10:54] <wookienz> sdc is OS on a SSD
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> tomasz:  PlayOnLinux has docs/guides on its ussage..
[10:55] <tomasz> oki i found command to install thx
[10:56] <mataks> how to add a program in start up that needs root
[10:56] <xor> Hi there.
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> mataks:  that !startup factoid mentioned some ways. You could put it in /etc/rc.local
[10:57] <erUSUL> wookienz: well sda seems to have a odd partitionning... dmesg does not show any partitions ( but tshows this odd line [    1.590402]  sdb: sda1 ) and fdisk shows /dev/sda1p1 and /dev/sda1 ... really dunno what may have happened.
[10:57] <xor> Does anyone know if Ubuntu 10.10 will have the yahoo search engine as the default on Firefox?
[10:57] <wookienz> erUSUL: i think sdb has an EFI partition in there for some reason what ever that means.
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> xor:  i doubt if anyone knows at this time.
[10:58] <erUSUL> wookienz: can you paste « sudo parted /dev/sda print » ?
[10:58] <erUSUL> wookienz: sda show efi too ( GPT )
[10:58] <erUSUL> wookienz: ohh no
[10:58] <abhijain> abhi_nav: i am new for ubuntu can u help me step by step . i have live cd
[10:58] <wookienz> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/gazuyXAj
[10:59] <erUSUL> wookienz: you are right. sdb efi sda normal msdos ...
[10:59] <abhi_nav> abhijain, are you on same computer?
[10:59] <xor> Dr_Willis: Right, a definite answer is of course difficult to get. How's the alpha though?
[10:59] <abhijain> abhi_nav: yeah
[10:59] <wookienz> erUSUL:  and http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ueyz0KnF
[11:00] <erUSUL> wookienz: Error: Invalid partition table - recursive partition on /dev/sda.   <<< so as i said something odd going on eith the partittioning in sda ...
[11:00] <abhi_nav> then I can only tell how. i can be with you on each step? abhijain ? because to implement all this you have to restart ,logoff etc?
[11:00] <abhi_nav> abhijain, i try wait
[11:00] <blackthor> hello.  i am trying to figure out if ubuntu works fine on a HP ML150 G6 (which is "pretty" now but not 'bleeding edge')  however, on the canonical site, the HP compatibility list looks outdated  (no mentioning of 10.04), is there anybody that did a successful 10.04 install on that machine (incl raid ctrller)
[11:01] <wookienz> erUSUL: is i possible that linux is seeing both disks and not the one the disk that the bios should be presenting?
[11:01] <xor> I guess I'll see when it comes out.
[11:01] <blackthor> whow, wookienz, recursive partitioning that sounds more like statistics in math than an fdisk problem
[11:01] <abhi_nav> where he goes now?
[11:02] <wookienz> blackthor: god knows how it happened!
[11:02] <erUSUL> wookienz: it is seing both. the disk the bios pressents /dev/mapper/pdc_whatever and the individual disks. there is nothing wrong with that. the problem is that one of the disks of the array has a bad/odd partition table so linux warns that the array is not ready and wont mount it
[11:03] <wookienz> erUSUL: ok that makes sense - it is a raid 0 array so obviosuly it needs it, and I NEED IT!! Can i manually fix it? By the way , should have mentioend it earlier, it was a NTFS fs.
[11:04] <abhi_nav> abhijain, what happend where were you been gone?
[11:04] <abhijain> abhi_nav: n/w probem
[11:04] <abhi_nav> abhijain, I see. so can we continew now?
[11:04] <abhijain> abhi_nav: yeah
[11:04] <blackthor> wookienz: sw raid? or hw raid?
[11:05] <abhi_nav> abhijain, ok so you are using 10.04?
[11:05] <abhijain> abhi_nav: yeah lucid 10.4 wubi
[11:06] <abhi_nav> wubi? what is wubi to do with grub restoration?
[11:06] <wookienz> blackthor: SW raid -
[11:06] <NeverCast> abhi_nav, That is something I have always wondered, Does wubi just use the Windows boot loader? or install the GRUB loader?
[11:07] <NeverCast> I understand 'install' wouldn't be a correct term in this case, but you get what I mean.
[11:07] <abhi_nav> NeverCast, how wubi can use grub? its INSIDE windwos naa? I mean its like an normal aps to win? how can it edit mbr?
[11:07] <BPower> Hey everyone. I'm on Ubuntu Lucid and apache2 won't start and is giving no errors (in logs or otherwise)
[11:07] <NeverCast> abhi_nav, Well the kernel images are in the windows partition sure.
[11:08] <NeverCast> abhi_nav, But it isn't like a Virtual Machine, the kernel is actually loaded
[11:08] <NeverCast> abhi_nav, I would believe Wubi would use GRUB bootloader
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> windows chanloads grub somehow to boot wubi. (i hate wubi. so dont use it) :) so imay be wrong
[11:09] <NeverCast> Dr_Willis, When you install 'wubi' it creates some virtual hard drive images which are mounted by the kernel, which sit on your windows partition, then it loads GRUB into your MBR, and sets it up for either Ubuntu kernel, or NTLDR on boot.
[11:10] <NeverCast> .. I could be long, but I believe that's how it works.
[11:10] <erUSUL> wookienz:i'm looking google for ways of restoring a gpt partition table ...
[11:10]  * Dr_Willis knows that it often works poorly
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> :)
[11:10] <wookienz> erUSUL: thanks i appreciate it! I have been trying for days to get it working...
[11:10] <NeverCast> Dr_Willis, Agreed, I have Ubuntu installed on my Laptop, no windows anywhere, none of this Wubi stuff, no dual boot
[11:10] <NeverCast> If I want to run windows, I'll just do it Virtually.
[11:10] <abhi_nav_> I was disconnected
[11:11] <abhi_nav_> I lost all msgs.
[11:11] <NeverCast> abhi_nav, that's okay it was just chit-chat.
[11:11] <abhi_nav_> NeverCast, Ok. :)
[11:11] <BPower> Hey everyone. I'm on Ubuntu Lucid and apache2 won't start and is giving no errors (in logs or otherwise) -- Where should I start debugging?
[11:11] <BPower> (sorry, I forgot to finish the question)
[11:11] <NeverCast> BPower, wanna paste bin the errors for us?
[11:12] <rww> NeverCast: the ones that he said he didn't get?
[11:12] <abhi_nav> rww, :D lol
[11:12] <NeverCast> rww, Uhh.. LOL
[11:12] <NeverCast> rww, My bad
[11:12] <NeverCast> BPower, Sorry mate, misread your message.
[11:12] <rww> no worries, we all do it :)
[11:13] <BPower> NeverCast, no problem. :)
[11:13] <rww> BPower: no apache processes in "ps aux", I take it?
[11:13] <BPower> rww,  nope
[11:14] <BPower> none
[11:14]  * NeverCast ponders to himself. 'should set up an svn'.
[11:14] <wookienz> erUSUL: is it possible the NTFS partition has been marked dirty and linux wont mount it? I did see someone usingi "ntfsfix" to re move the dirty flag on the partition,,,but so far have been unsure how it will permantly affect the partitions..
[11:14] <Talu> Can anyone tell me how to open the root window?
[11:14] <erUSUL> wookienz: problem is we do not have a partition to ntfsfix ...
[11:14] <cpf> BPower, Try reinstalling it?
[11:14] <abhijain> abhi_nav: sorry . bsnl sucks here
[11:14] <abhi_nav> Talu, open terminal and there type sudo su
[11:15] <rww> BPower: is it writing to its log files at all?
[11:15] <abhi_nav> abhijain, yah its ok :) tell me you are using wubi?
[11:15] <rww> BPower: even without errors, there should be a couple of lines in there, I think
[11:15] <abhijain> abhi_nav: yeah 10.4
[11:15] <Talu> That didnt work
[11:15] <NeverCast> rww, log start times hopefully
[11:15] <abhi_nav> abhijain, then wubi is nothing to do with grub resoration. what exactly you want to do?
[11:15] <erUSUL> wookienz: the best i found http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/repairing.html
[11:15] <abhi_nav> Talu, what ddint work? you want to login to root account?
[11:16] <Talu> I want to open a root window were i can copy paste stuff.
[11:16] <NeverCast> Talu, Right click, Paste ;)
[11:16]  * abhi_nav confused.
[11:16] <abhijain> abhi_nav: i want to recover grub of linux . i installed windows vista after ubuntu and windows hide the grub of ubuntu
[11:16] <NeverCast> abhijain, It didn't exactly hide it
[11:16] <NeverCast> abhijain, More of Destroyed it
[11:17] <abhi_nav> abhijain, do you mean you install windows fully and you also installed ubuntu fully? in real hdd? in real partition?
[11:17] <abhi_nav> :(
[11:17] <NeverCast> abhi_nav, I'm not sure if he used wubi
[11:17] <NeverCast> abhi_nav, regardless, Wubi still uses the GRUB loader
[11:17] <Talu> You need an ubuntu CD and then boot it from it. When your on the virtual ubuntu you can fix the grub problem by reinstalling it.
[11:18] <abhi_nav> NeverCast, yah that is what I try to clear
[11:18] <abhi_nav> NeverCast, yes but id dont messes with mbr?
[11:18] <abhi_nav> ahh??
[11:18] <erUSUL> wookienz: i have to go for a while.
[11:18] <BPower> rww, strange - i'm getting two errors now.  "unable to start piped log program '/usr/bin/cronolog -S /var/log/apache2/xemzi_access_log -P /var/log/apache2/xemzi_access_log.prev /var/log/apache2/access_log-%Y%m%d': No such file or directory and "Unable to open logs"
[11:19] <BPower> I know what to do... i think
[11:19] <NeverCast> abhi_nav, What do you mean doesn't mess with the MBR, GRUB is written to the MBR.
[11:19] <wookienz> erUSUL: ok thanks - ill have a look
[11:20] <abhi_nav> NeverCast, I am totally confused. I never used wubi. but tell me that if one installed ubuntu inside windows i.e. wubi right? so it install under windows like any other ap? then how it can manipulate real mbr?
[11:20] <Talu> I need some help. I want to move a game from File system to my external HD. But it wont allow me to paste it there.
[11:21] <abhi_nav> Talu, sudo mv <source> <destinatin>
[11:21] <Talu> Hmm i try that then
[11:21] <NeverCast> abhi_nav, It doesn't install inside windows, It just convinces the average windows user that it has, so they can remove an entire oper' from Add/Remove.
[11:21] <abhi_nav> Talu, you do this thing from that account in which account that game was owned.
[11:22] <abhi_nav> NeverCast, ok. Still not understood. but is ok. leave it. lets see if we can help him.
[11:25] <NeverCast> abhi_nav, IF he can get back lol.
[11:25] <abhi_nav> NeverCast, :D lol really. yes it is here really a problem of broadband connection. I am also just lost you see? like that
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav:  it just has some 'tools' in windoss that let it be easially insatlled/removed with the windows add/remove program files applications/system :)
[11:26] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis, so it doesnt act like a regular windows application?
[11:26] <NeverCast> abhi_nav, Nope it's not an application
[11:27] <abhi_nav> NeverCast, Dr_Willis ok. thanks.
[11:27] <NeverCast> abhi_nav, It just has an Application for adding and removing the distro (:
[11:27] <abhi_nav> NeverCast, I see
[11:27] <BPower> It's fixed now.
[11:27] <BPower> Thanks all!
[11:27] <blackthor> wookienz,  i would surely recommend reading the last paragraph of that URL
[11:28] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:28] <blackthor> i'd backup copy the disks (byte per byte) first before messing with it
[11:28] <gamerx> hey, how do i check for wireless drivers i might need
[11:29] <gamerx> my wireless isnt working
[11:29] <blackthor> mmm... trying to figure out if ubuntu works fine on a HP ML150 G6 (which is "fairly new", not 'bleeding edge')  however, on the canonical site, HP compatibility list looks outdated  (no mentioning of 10.04), is there anybody that did a successful 10.04 install on that machine (incl raid ctrller) ?
[11:29] <abhi_nav> !wifi | gamerx
[11:29] <slow-motion> hi
[11:29] <gamerx> thanks abhi_nav
[11:30] <Ex-Opesa> Guys/gals, I installed sensor-applet
[11:31] <Ex-Opesa> also the command 'sensors' give me the output of temperature
[11:31] <Samara> hi, I have some problems after I update to 10.04 version. Grub cant start windows xp...somebody help me?
[11:31] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis,
[11:31] <Ex-Opesa> But I can't see 'Hardware Sensors Monitor' when I right click on panel and do "add to panel".
[11:31] <abhi_nav> ohhh sorry nothing it was my mistake
[11:32] <jf1976> lo all a mate just handed me a half dead win7 laptop but ubuntu 10.04 live cant find the harddrive? any clues, im just grabbing a knoppix cd as well
[11:32] <Ex-Opesa> Do I need to restart gnome?
[11:32] <Talu> Does anyone know how i open the Copy/paste Root window?
[11:32] <Samara> hi, I have some problems after I update to 10.04 version. Grub cant start windows xp...somebody help me?
[11:32] <Ex-Opesa> Nevermind, my problem is solved ^^
[11:32] <abhi_nav> Talu, doesnt that command worked?
[11:32] <Talu> I cant get it to work.
[11:32] <jf1976> im guessing GPT? but the recover software is unable to find any partitions in fact it cant find the drive at all, but the windows recovery does start
[11:32] <Talu> Would be easier if i just can open the root window.
[11:33] <abhi_nav> Talu, what exact error it give while trying to copy paste?
[11:34] <Talu> I copy the folder and then when i try paste it in my HD the paste option is grayed out.
[11:34] <Mraii> Can anyone tell me what is the filename of the spanish console fonts? Under /usr/lib/share/consolefonts/
[11:34] <abhi_nav> Talu, tried doing this from admin account?
[11:34] <Talu> This is the admin account.
[11:35] <abhi_nav> Talu, tell me the location of the file and the location of the external hdd
[11:35] <abhi_nav> Talu, e.g. /home/user/filename etc
[11:35] <Talu> The location of the file is in my home folder and my external hd is at usb0
[11:36] <abhi_nav> Talu, can you give me exact location in proper format as I illustrated in e.g.?
[11:36] <gamerx> hi, i installed ubuntu minimal install and slim, and want to have it load on boot
[11:37] <Talu>  file 1 /home/talu/World of Warcraft and then my external hd is at usb0, dont know the location for it.
[11:37] <abhi_nav> Talu, try doing this sudo chown <fullfilenamewithproperaddress> and then try to copy paste
[11:38] <ivano> #ubuntu-it
[11:38] <Samara> hi, I have some problems after I update to 10.04 version. Grub cant start windows xp...somebody help me?
[11:39] <Jordan_U> Samara: What happens when you try to boot windows?
[11:39] <abhi_nav> Samara, http://www.ubuntux.org/node/9390
[11:40] <klax0n> سلام
[11:41] <jf1976> Samara: when you say update to 10.04 can you explain more about the original config before the update, im guessing dual boot 9.10 and xp ?
[11:41] <Guest84383> i am looking for help with finding an image resizer that works on ubuntu.  i tried to install vso but it is not trusted.....any help would be appreciated
[11:42] <syeki> Hello there. I am wondering how to start troubleshooting the freezes and crashes I am experiencing with my (Ubuntu 10.04) machine. Can anyone suggest where I should start?
[11:42] <Jordan_U> !ir | klax0n
[11:43] <iflema> Guest84383 The Gimp search gimp in the software centre
[11:43] <blackthor> Guest84383: you can resize images commandline using  imagemagick (convert)
[11:43] <Alice32> hi i have problem cant load ubuntu 9.10. and the info i  get when i try to load ubuntu is "cant find system files" how to sort it out? i had this sort of problem before i used command to scan systme files and than it worked i forgot what command i used before. any help?
[11:43] <Samara> jf, yes ubuntu is installed in external hd and windows an internal...quem i was using 9.10 both systems work fine...now when i select windows on grub menu it does not run...
[11:44] <Samara> jf1976, yes ubuntu is installed in external hd and windows an internal...quem i was using 9.10 both systems work fine...now when i select windows on grub menu it does not run...
[11:44] <Moult> my computer running ubuntu is connected to the internet via an ethernet cable. I would like other devices to connect to the internet by sharing its connection via wifi. is there a guide to do this?
[11:44] <jf1976> so you had ubuntu on external windows on internal and you boot were?
[11:44] <Jordan_U> Samara: Can you run this script: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/  and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces?
[11:44] <Archana> Hi.
[11:44] <klax0n> I khow but i want who iranian
[11:44] <Archana> Hello Am i visible ?
[11:45] <abhi_nav> yes Archana
[11:45] <blackthor> Moult: i suggest you could cheat of http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=livecdrouter
[11:45] <Archana> Hi abhi_nav I cannot mount any of my windows drives
[11:45] <Guest84383> iflema - thank you - i have gimp - do you know how to use it to resize?
[11:45] <abhi_nav> !mount | Archana dunno more than this ;)
[11:45] <Guest84383> blockthor - thank you - how do i do that/get that?
[11:45] <Samara> before that grub was installed on external hd...
[11:46] <Moult> blackthor: sorry, not very useful, even though it does do what i want.
[11:46] <jf1976> running http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ sounds like a plan ;) should find the location at least nice tool
[11:46] <scar_> how do i display the grub menu in lucid?
[11:46] <Jordan_U> scar_: Hold shift during boot.
[11:46] <Alice34> hi i have problem cant load ubuntu 9.10. and the info i  get when i try to load ubuntu is "cant find system files" how to sort it out? i had this sort of problem before i used command to scan system files and than it worked i forgot what command i used before. any help?
[11:47] <Archana> I get this when i try to open my windows drives . http://paste.ubuntu.com/459417/  Please see this. I reinstalled ntfs-3g using apt-get install --reinstall ntfs-3g and still of no use. How cam i do it now ?
[11:47] <jf1976> Archana: you need to use sudo or give your account the correct privs
[11:47] <jf1976> sudo mount
[11:48] <Archana> jf1976,
[11:48] <iflema> Guest84383 click on the image menu and select scale, once you have an image open
[11:48] <Ex-Opesa> I don't see hddtemp in hardware sensors applet in gnome, how to fix this problem?
[11:48] <Archana> jf1976, but it always used to work without sudo. I just used to click from places and it just worke
[11:48] <jf1976> check your group membership
[11:48] <Guest84383> iflema - yep, got that far....what then?  how do i know what scale to type in?  i just want to make images smaller to upload onto the net?
[11:48] <Archana> jf1976, I now use the admin account
[11:49] <syeki> I suspect my problem could be some thing to do with the graphics subsystem. How do I start toubleshooting? Are ther logs I could look at etc...
[11:49] <iflema> Guest84383 theres a percentage option say 50%?????
[11:50] <jf1976> admin account ? if your using ubuntu then there is a root account + an account (the first) you created that have higer privs but please dont login to you systems as root, just sudo
[11:50] <iflema> Guest84383 percentage of width and height
[11:50] <blackthor> Guest84383: http://www.imagemagick.org/www/mogrify.html
[11:50] <Guest84383> blackthor - thanks will look into it
[11:51] <blackthor> Guest84383: first command = resize to a certain % and overwrite the original file
[11:51] <Archana> jf1976, this is the account that was created during installation
[11:51] <jf1976> kk thats cool then
[11:51] <Archana> jf1976, 'cool' ?
[11:52] <Guest84383> iflema - can't see a percentage option.....and sorry - i don't understand your last comment....not overly computer literate!  what do you mean 'first command'?  i just opened the program, then clicked image and then scale image.
[11:53] <jf1976> use a shell [applications] --> [Accessories] --> [Terminal] and use #sudo mount {DEVICE}
[11:53] <scar_> thanks Jordan_U, google also told me to use shift but looks like i was just too slow ;) ps: i tried nouveau and it caused my pc to hang. I've now managed to switch back a semi-working nv driver
[11:53] <syeki> does anyone know of tools that could help me analyse a crashdump?
[11:53] <iflema> Guest84383 instead of 'pixels' select 'percentage' of width and height
[11:54] <sKeiths> i have a machine with tow netcards. sometimes after boot only one card works. it does not appear in ifconfig, it does not appear in lspci and it does not appear in dmesg. after reboot if appears everywhere its supposed to be. ubuntu version is hardy 8.04.2 kernel 2.6.22-14-server.
[11:55] <agajwani> quick question can you modify an existing symlink?
[11:55] <Samara> Jordan_U, ok, it produced a very long text, i didnt  get any about this...
[11:55] <spY|da> del +create new one?
[11:56] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Samara
[11:56] <blackthor> sKeiths: i'd say, try replacing one of the netcards
[11:56] <vindu> Hello, for some reason my computer just won't boot the Ubuntu 10.04 x86 disc, but it wants to boot the x64 disc.
[11:56] <erUSUL> sKeiths: that looks like  hardware error ... maybe the card is loose on the pci slot ?
[11:57] <imgx64> Bash question: I have files that have spaces in their names, "for i in *" processes these files as two (example: "file one" as "file" and "one"), how do I make it treat them as one file?
[11:57] <erUSUL> imgx64: quote the name
[11:57] <Guest84383> iflema - thank you! didn't even see that option - cheers!
[11:57] <sKeiths> thanks blackthor and erUSUL. i'll make my 1st stop replacing the hardware.
[11:57] <erUSUL> imgx64: for file in *; do ... "$file" ...; done
[11:57] <shomon> hi, I don't have a "write to disk" option in nautilus, when I'm in "burn:///"
[11:58] <shomon> how do I get one? do I have to install a package?
[11:58] <erUSUL> !info nautilus-cd-burner
[11:58] <iflema> Guest84383 no dramas
[11:59] <Samara> this is the link :http://paste.ubuntu.com/459421/
[11:59] <imgx64> erUSUL: Oh, thanks. That's kinda unexpected.. But thanks for the help!
[11:59] <blackthor> i'm still trying to figure out if ubuntu works fine on a HP ML150 G6 (which is "fairly new", not 'bleeding edge')  however, on the canonical site, HP compatibility list looks outdated  (no mentioning of 10.04), is there anybody that did a successful 10.04 install on that machine (incl raid ctrller) ?
[11:59] <erUSUL> imgx64: well is expected if you know how the shell works ;P
[11:59] <shomon> cool, installing. Thanks erUSUL - how do you know these things?
[12:00] <stevecam> blackthor, i find that you have more chances of getting ubuntu working on a PC then windows
[12:00] <shomon> do I have to restart nautilus now though?
[12:00] <shomon> I just apt-get upgraded
[12:01] <shomon> I mean installed, oops
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