[15:36] <arscariosus> Hello all. I have a question :)
[15:48] <arscariosus> Pano maging official member ng Ubuntu PH? :)
[16:02] <Terminus-> arscariosus: signing the code of conduct and joining the ubuntu-ph locoteam on launchpad.net is one of the first steps i think if you want more involvement with ubuntu. =)
[16:03] <arscariosus> Terminus- I tried two weeks ago, but I think it's still pending
[16:03] <Terminus-> arscariosus: https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct and https://launchpad.net/~loco-philippine-team
[16:04] <Terminus-> arscariosus: ah... you might want to try asking here when zakame is around.
[16:04] <arscariosus> Plus i'm still new at Launchpad. Is it like GitHub? :)
[16:04] <Terminus-> arscariosus: sorta. it's canonical's collaboration tool for software projects. =)
[16:05] <arscariosus> My account there is like 2 yrs old already kaso di ko pa nakakalikot hehe kaso ngayon since I founded a LUG at school, naisip ko maging involved :)
[16:11] <Terminus-> haha. my account there is almost 5 years old now and it's been mostly untouched. >-
[16:11] <Terminus-> 0 karma nga daw.
[16:12] <Terminus-> i think i only created the account for the purpose of submitting bug reports and answers.
[16:14] <arscariosus> I don't even know how to send bug reports :(
[16:14] <arscariosus> Nakakahiya aspiring developer and free software advocate pa naman ako :s
[16:17] <Terminus-> well, you can start by asking in support and the mailing list about issues that you may have. if they confirm that it's a bug, describe it in https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[16:18] <Terminus-> you can learn as you go. if you keep at it, you'll get proficient at reading log files and even using gdb if necessary.
[16:19] <arscariosus> Gdb is the gnu debugging tool right?
[16:19] <Terminus-> yep
[16:19] <arscariosus> Meron nun sa emacs e.
[16:19] <Terminus-> backtrace is a very useful command.
[16:19]  * Terminus- has never used emacs
[16:20] <arscariosus> I use it for school hehe.
[16:20] <Terminus-> i try every few years but i'm too invested in vim. hahaha
[16:20] <Terminus-> for projects that are too big for vim, i just use eclipse.
[16:21] <Terminus-> there was one instance in the past where i had 100 tabs open in vim and that was a pain to manage. that's when i started using eclipse.
[16:21] <arscariosus> In emacs it's easy to handle.. puro small projects palang din kasi sa school hehe
[16:21] <Terminus-> in any case, doesn't really matter what you use. hehe
[16:22] <arscariosus> Yup that's true :)
[16:23] <Terminus-> (=
[16:23] <arscariosus> Btw sir, im just curious, do you work at o&b too? :)
[16:25] <Terminus-> nope.
[16:25] <Terminus-> sometimes i visit when they host a release party though. =)
[16:26] <arscariosus> Dapat pupunta ako last time kaso nahihiya ako. Haha.
[16:26] <Terminus-> i had other things to do last time so i wasn't able to go.
[16:26] <arscariosus> Wala kasi akong kilala and im not sure if there are any fees
[16:29] <Terminus-> nah... it's just hanging out.
[16:56] <arscariosus> Terminus-, sir i have another question. i have been reading about the gdb
[16:56] <arscariosus>  does it only work with c/c++ ?
[17:07] <Terminus-> arscariosus: not necessarily. it will work on any native binary (ELF, COFF, etc.) and will infer the source language from debuginfo. the only requirement is that it's debugging machine code, not bytecode.
[17:09] <Terminus-> from http://www.gnu.org/s/gdb/, they mention other languages such as pascal and objective-c. one thing you'll notice is that all of these languages assemble into machine code.
[17:11] <arscariosus> Wow. :)
[17:11] <Terminus-> arscariosus: uh... did you miss my previous message?
[17:12] <Terminus-> wb btw. =)
[17:13] <arscariosus> I think i was able to read it. About gdb being able to handle any natve binary in machine code :)
[17:13] <Terminus-> repost: from http://www.gnu.org/s/gdb/, they mention other languages such as pascal and objective-c. one thing you'll notice is that all of these languages assemble into machine code.
[17:13] <Terminus-> yep.
[17:14] <Terminus-> so if you're writing perl, python, ruby, etc. they have their own debugging tools. gdb would only apply if you're debugging the interpreter itself for the language.
[17:14] <arscariosus> Ill read more later, its hard to browse, im usimg my mobile hehe
[18:02] <arscariosus> sir Terminus- what's the link for the code of conduct again?
[18:02] <arscariosus> sorry I was using my mobile a while ago :D
[18:18] <Terminus-> arscariosus: https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct
[18:18] <arscariosus> Terminus-, thanks :D