[06:09] <Warbo> LdyVix: I've been away myself. Was I talking to you?
[06:09] <Warbo> paloyme: Click on Home
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> paloyme: Places > Anything, Home, whatever.
[06:10] <bert_> amphi: Ah, Alright, Well thanks for your co-operation. I will keep looking for a Debian based version of it.
[06:10] <LdyVix> Warbo: yes you were talking to me... as "My"
[06:10] <FlannelKing> ExcaliBer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:10] <FlannelKing> except, change thigns to breezy instead of dapper (we really not have one for dapper yet?)
[06:10] <Warbo> LdyVix: OK. Here is a screenshot of my Device Manager to show you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12577
[06:10] <amphi> bert_: google will know, no doubt - ##linux people might know
[06:10] <ExcaliBer> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[06:10] <ExcaliBer> this is to make it to dapper?
[06:10] <jmoncayo> does somebody know why when i use transparency with aterm and i change the background it stays with the oldder background?
[06:10] <CNAP> Excaliber: sudo apt-get update, first
[06:11] <Warbo> jmoncayo: What window manager?
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: Basically, if they don't know how to get Dapper, they probably shouldn't ;)
[06:11] <amphi> jmoncayo: because it's fake translucency
[06:11] <CNAP> Excaliber: then sudo apt-get update ubuntu-base
[06:11] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso: I suppose.
[06:11] <itsmike> have a portable computer for sale - $450 is the amount include ship. case, wireless router.  message if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if interested
[06:11] <jmoncayo> i am using fluxbox
[06:11] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso: except, it's in beta now, and apparently this beta is stable for english people
[06:11] <Warbo> jmoncayo: Sorry, can't help
[06:11] <monsterb> Hi All - Whats a good harddrive partition setup?  I have a 200GB - how much should I allow for /home  and  /  ??
[06:11] <jmoncayo> amphi, so it always happens like that
[06:11] <ExcaliBer> you mean sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop?
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: Is the beta actually out?
[06:11] <amphi> jmoncayo: your X server is not using real alpha-channel, aterm is faking it
[06:11] <CNAP> tonyyarusso: once he gets his sources updated he should be off and running. upgrading to dapper is quite easy with apt-get
[06:12] <paloyme> ok how do i extract a file to a directory using file browser without being told that i dont have permission?
[06:12] <ExcaliBer> then type this?
[06:12] <ExcaliBer> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[06:12] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso: or if nothing else, just because youre not familiar with linux/ubuntu doesn't mean you're not familiar with beta software n general
[06:12] <Warbo> monsterb: I have 250GB. I have 20GB /, 150GB /home/chris/Files and the rest to play with different OSs
[06:12] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso: yeah.  Or at least, the artwork seems to think so.
[06:12] <amphi> CNAP: someone was just complaining that everything was broken after a dist-upgrade ;)
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> CNAP: It's easy to do, but the knowledge that tells you how it's easy doesn't exist when not ready for a development release.
[06:12] <ExcaliBer> Flannelking:put this next sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[06:12] <ExcaliBer> ?
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: True, I suppose.
[06:12] <monsterb> Warbo, Thanks
[06:13] <paloyme> ok how do i extract a file to a directory using file browser without being told that i dont have permission?
[06:13] <CNAP> amphi: i've been running it for 4 days now straight and i haven't had any problems <fingers crossed>
[06:13] <CNAP> tonyyarusso: what do you mean?
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: I heard that earlier, before the 20th actually someone said it proclaimed beta.  Nothing on the -announce mailing list yet though.
[06:13] <Warbo> monsterb: I like to keep my prefs and configs seperate from my files, hence the Files folder (so I can use multiple OSs with the same files)
[06:13] <amphi> paloyme: by extracting it to a directory under $HOME
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> CNAP: Just that generally new users should use the stable release by recommendation.
[06:14] <CNAP> tonyyarusso: i agree, traditionally that's been the case. dapper drake is rock solid, especially for beta
[06:14] <bert_> Amphi: what is the debian unpackage code for terminal, is it "sudo dpckg -i file.deb" ?
[06:14] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso: besides, he'll test the upgrade process ;) we need them
[06:14] <CNAP> excaliber: sudo apt-get update
[06:14] <amphi> bert_: yes, if you lose the 'c'
[06:14] <pb> Hey everyone, no one seemed to have responded so here goes again anyway...firefox 1.0.8 now shows up in synaptic for update, and I have firefox 1.5 running smoothly (using the instructions in the wiki)... should I neglect the update and continue working, or shall I proceed with the update? Will it break my firefox 1.5 installation?
[06:14] <tritium_> zcat[1] : more or less...but not completely
[06:14] <amphi> zcat[1] : good to hear
[06:14] <ExcaliBer> ok i did that
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> CNAP: Can you confirm official beta out?  I've been wondering for the last 5 hours at what point today it would be.
[06:14] <beowuff> bert_ sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: True.
[06:15] <bert_> amphi: Do'H!... My bad... Thanks again :D
[06:15] <intelikey> CNAP if dapper is "rock solid"  i'd hate to see something you considered "shakey at best"
[06:15] <zcat[1] > this one I'm waiting for final though..
[06:15] <ExcaliBer> and then i did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base
[06:15] <CNAP> tonyyarusso: official beta? what do you mean?
[06:15] <Warbo> pb: If you don't use it then don'tupgrade it. No security flaws, etc will affect you if you are in 1.5
[06:15] <paloyme> where is xorg.conf located again?
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> pb: If you followed the wiki, it will be safe to upgrade.
[06:15] <ExcaliBer> im done
[06:15] <FlannelKing> oh
[06:15] <FlannelKing> oh
[06:15] <ExcaliBer> now what do i do?
[06:15] <FlannelKing> ExcaliBer: sttooopppp
[06:15] <CNAP> intelikey: what has your experience been with DD?
[06:15] <amphi> intelikey: heh
[06:15] <FlannelKing> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta?highlight=%28Dapper%29
[06:15] <LadyVix> Warbo: I cant run more than 1 program at a time or my system locks up
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> CNAP: The April 20th release.  All else has been alpha, not beta.
[06:15] <CNAP> Excaliber, yes
[06:15] <FlannelKing> few things down, apparently upgrading has been streamlined
[06:15] <FlannelKing> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta
[06:15] <Warbo> LadyVix: Really? Have you messed around with settings a bit or what?
[06:15] <beowuff> paloyme /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:15] <ExcaliBer> lol
[06:15] <ExcaliBer> so am i done?
[06:16] <amphi> paloyme: try 'locate xorg.conf'
[06:16] <paloyme> amphi: thanks
[06:16] <CNAP> tonyyarusso: yes, my bad...alpha not beta, and i've been using dapper drake flight 6 since april 16
[06:16] <LadyVix> Warbo: I didnt screw with anything... this got installed this morning before work... I just got home i havent touched ANy settings
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> CNAP: Ah.
[06:16] <ExcaliBer> i still want dapper
[06:16] <tritium_> #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussions please
[06:16] <Warbo> LadyVix: Hmmm. What kind of hardware? (how old is it?)
[06:17] <amphi> how hot is it? ;)
[06:17] <bert_> amphi: after installing a game such as "xbattle".. with the dpkg command, how do I go about launching it?.. where would it be?
[06:17] <zcat[1] > installed flight4 and been upgrading occasionally ever since.. the occasional glitch but upgrading again later has always brought things right again.
[06:17] <ExcaliBer> GOD YOU fucking bitches arent telling me shit!!!!!!!!!!
[06:17] <ExcaliBer> sorry
[06:17] <intelikey> CNAP my exp with dapper is people in here all the time saying "it hosed my X"  or  "last night's updates broke <blah>"    i've never used it my self.  but even the stable releases  hoary breezy  are not "rock solid"  imo
[06:17] <LadyVix> Warbo: it did that this morning too tried to have 2 firefox windows open and it locked up... left it that way and it was still that way when I got home
[06:17] <CNAP> excaliber: i just told you
[06:17] <zcat[1] > that's what I consider solid.
[06:17] <amphi> bert_: dpkg -L <package_name> will list the files it installed
[06:17] <CNAP> excaliber: sudo apt-get update
[06:17] <bert_> amphi: ok Thanks.
[06:17] <CNAP> excaliber: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base
[06:17] <CNAP> that's it
[06:17] <LadyVix> Warbo: how old is it... well bits and pieces are 3 years or more and others are only 6 months...
[06:18] <CNAP> excaliber: sudo apt-get upgrade ubuntu-base
[06:18] <amphi> LadyVix: what video card?
[06:18] <CNAP> excaliber:replace "install" with "upgrade"
[06:18] <Warbo> LadyVix: Sound a bit peculiar. Are you sure it is not just Firefox? (Sorry, but it may lock up again...) Hardware seems fine to run multiple progs.
[06:18] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta read third (?) item on that page.  that seems like the recommended upgrade path ,right? er.. CNAP, you too
[06:18] <LadyVix> have Nvidia 6200
[06:18] <LadyVix> ok... i'm going to put a link up....
[06:18] <amphi> LadyVix: driver problem?
[06:18] <FlannelKing> LadyVix: have you tried disabling IPv6?
[06:18] <LadyVix> it has my whole system specs
[06:19] <tritium_> CNAP: you might have noticed I removed him
[06:19] <zcat[1] > I have to admit lots of issues with xgl but that's not an official repo :)
[06:19] <LadyVix> FlannelKing: eh?
[06:19] <Warbo> amphi: Was going to suggest that. Would nvidia be more stable than nv?
[06:19] <FlannelKing> !ipv6
[06:19] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: Recommended, but probably because it's easier for less techy ppl.  Anyway, we're off topic, so that should probably be it for this thread.
[06:19] <itsmike> have a portable computer for sale - $450 is the amount include ship. case, wireless router.  message if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if interested
[06:19] <paloyme> how do i edit my xorg.conf? its on read-only:(
[06:19] <amphi> Warbo: dunno, I have an old radeon - I would trust the free driver more than the blob
[06:19] <jiping> ban itsmike
[06:19] <CNAP> tritium_: yeah just did
[06:19] <amphi> paloyme: you must have super cow powers
[06:19] <tritium_> itsmike: please don't advertise here
[06:20] <Warbo> paloyme: Do it as super user (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[06:20] <intelikey> paloyme / mounted ro ?   remount it.
[06:20] <zcat[1] > itsmike: will you ship to nigeria? my minister needs one!
[06:20] <CNAP> flannelking, yeah well that seems a little easier than what i did but i learned alot more
[06:20] <amphi> zcat[1] : heh
[06:20] <Warbo> amphi: I've had a few problems with ati cards.
[06:20] <CNAP> so what's the difference between "gksudo" and "sudo"
[06:20] <poikol> HI, How can I install dictionaries in OpenOffice ?
[06:20] <janinux2005> quien habla espaol
[06:20] <tritium_> !es
[06:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:21] <LadyVix> to all trying to help me... go here    http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=User.Profile&id=55570
[06:21] <bert_> Ugh!... Does anybody know where I can find a Debian Based WolfET... This is Exhausting trying to figure out how to install the WolfET.run files when it says it's missing a file!...
[06:21] <janinux2005> #ubuntu -es
[06:21] <amphi> Warbo: this one works pretty well with the xorg driver - 750-odd fps with glxgears, enough for celestia and stellarium
[06:21] <Warbo> amphi: Just checked, I'm in ati driver (could be fglrx, could be vesa, that's how stupid it's got)
[06:21] <LadyVix> FlannelKing: I've never used Linux before today. XP crashed and i dont have an install disk...
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> Grub is great, but are there any graphical bootloaders?  (Is that possible?)
[06:21] <Warbo> LadyVix: You can use pastebin you know...
[06:22] <amphi> tonyyarusso: what would they do?
[06:22] <LadyVix> I tried thats when I last locked up
[06:22] <Warbo> tonyyarusso: Smart Boot Manager seems to be a little graphical, but I couldn't get it to work (didn't do what I wanted anyway)
[06:22] <Warbo> LadyVix: Oh.
[06:22] <blindx> I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out?
[06:22] <Hexidigital> can someone ping my ftp server to see if they get a response? pm me if you can
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Just have a pretty menu, maybe icons for the choices, if possible mouse support, but that involves drivers and such that would be loaded later.
[06:22] <LadyVix> Warbo: lI've rebooted twice since i came into the IRC client
[06:22] <joshr> what audio player is good
[06:23] <blindx> xmms
[06:23] <titanium_platypu> xmms
[06:23] <titanium_platypu> ^_^
[06:23] <joshr> is mplayer in the repositories?
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> amphi: I've heard of, but not seen, this Boot Camp thing - maybe like that.
[06:23] <disco_stu> Do I have to reboot my router for firewall settings to be changed on it?
[06:23] <amphi> tonyyarusso: icons? ugh ;) all that wouldn't buy you much, really - grub has a shell, what more do you want?
[06:23] <CNAP> joshr: sudo apt-cache search mplayer
[06:23] <joshr> cnap how do i do that?
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Not so much for me as for Windows users that I can talk into dual-booting.
[06:23] <CNAP> go to your term
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> amphi: They're used to graphical stuff.
[06:23] <CNAP> joshr: go to your term
[06:23] <Warbo> LadyVix: Seems like a decent setup. What client are you in by the way (I find XChat crashes anyway)
[06:24] <amphi> tonyyarusso: grub looks like ncurses, should be graphical enough for anyone ;)
[06:24] <dts> I've been my random freezes almost every 1-2 hours of using my computer, is there some sort of test to see if  i have a faulty RAM or hard disk or something that might be causing this?
[06:24] <amphi> tonyyarusso: the winduhs bootloader isn't gui, is it?
[06:24] <amphi> dts: memtest86
[06:24] <bert_> amphi: I went to the location and double clicked the x-executable file, and it did nothing...?
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Windows only boots one thing, no choices offered there, it just goes.
[06:25] <amphi> bert_: time for TFM, I guess
[06:25] <intelikey> dts  also  badblocks
[06:25] <bert_> amphi: tfm?.. *Feels very stupid*
[06:25] <LadyVix> Warbo: I'm using Ubuntu version 5.04 right off the disk install... ran the auto updates and upgraded firefox thats all I had time to work with before I left for work this morning
[06:25] <Warbo> tonyyarusso: Give GRUB a nice background. That'll do. Although I have seen a boot disk with icons for different OS's. Still uses keyboard though (and looks like Win95 errr.)
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> Warbo: I've been looking into the grub-splash option.
[06:25] <Warbo> LadyVix: Which program are you in for IRC?
[06:25] <paloyme> what does this mean?
[06:25] <paloyme> (gedit:8403): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[06:25] <paloyme> (gedit:8403): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[06:26] <dts> intelikey, what's that?
[06:26] <blindx> I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out?
[06:26] <intelikey> dts man badblocks
[06:26] <LadyVix> *looks up* Warbo i'm in X-Chat {2.4.1}
[06:26] <amphi> tonyyarusso: ntldr can boot other OSes, I hear
[06:26] <amphi> bert_: try running it in a term, and see if it says anything
[06:26] <amphi> tonyyarusso: you could set up ntldr to boot linux also, and then blame windows for the ugliness of the menu ;(
[06:26] <amphi> er, ;)
[06:26] <joshr> cnap nothing happens when i sudo apt-cache search mplayer
[06:26] <amphi> !mplayer
[06:26] <ubotu> from memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:26] <tritium_> !tell joshr about repos
[06:27] <bert_> amphi: and the command for that would be?
[06:27] <amphi> bert_: the $ADJECTIVE_BEGINNING_WITH_F manual
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Not worth it.  I'll stick with grub.
[06:27] <amphi> bert_: the binary
[06:27] <CNAP> joshr: sudo apt-get update
[06:27] <joshr> i checked the repos for mplayer and dont get anythign
[06:27] <Warbo> LadyVix: Well, just in case I would say go into GAIM. I've had terrible problems with XChat but none with GAIM
[06:27] <bert_> amphi: you lost me...
[06:27] <amphi> bert_: something the package installed to /usr/bin most likely
[06:28] <bert_> amphi: ok so just type the package directory?
[06:28] <bert_> amphi: what do I type before it?
[06:28] <amphi> bert_: no; you should read the docs that came with the package, I think
[06:28] <LadyVix> Warbo: MSN<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:28] <jmoncayo> amphi, so i cant fix it? the aterm transparency stuff?
[06:28] <_jason> joshr: have you enabled breezy multiverse?
[06:28] <bert_> amphi: ok
[06:28] <dts> how do i memtest86? do i need to reboot
[06:28] <Warbo> LadyVix: IRC (I'm in GAIM right now)
[06:29] <tritium_> joshr: did you see the URL I had ubotu send you?  You need multiverse
[06:29] <amphi> jmoncayo: not unless you want to hack on the X server ;) I believe this xgl thing provides real alpha-channel amongst other eye-candy
[06:29] <joshr> no i haven't enabled breezy multiverse
[06:29] <jmoncayo> for what do i use memtest86?
[06:29] <bert_> amphi: thanks for your help I'll try another day, i need to learn more about Unix before I continue.. Thanks again..  I put in irc.freenode.net, username Warbo, no password and it log in fine. Am I an idiot?
[06:30] <CNAP> joshr, what do you see?
[06:30] <CarlFK> okee dokee... here goes...
[06:30] <dts> amphi, do i need to replace my memory?
[06:30] <amphi> dts: there's a kernel patch that lets you tell the kernel not to use certain addresses
[06:30] <jmoncayo> amphi, have you hacked the x server before?
[06:30] <amphi> jmoncayo: nope ;)
[06:30] <CarlFK> amphi: you talking about the BadRam patch?
[06:31] <amphi> jmoncayo: I imagine it's pretty horrifying in there
[06:31] <amphi> CarlFK: that's it, I think
[06:31] <jmoncayo> amphi, what file do i need to modify for doing that stuff?
[06:31] <amphi> jmoncayo: many, I expect
[06:31] <LadyVix> Warbo: ok I"m logged in... now what
[06:31] <CarlFK> amphi: there is BadRam and BadMem - forlks or something.  I could never get them to work with 2.6
[06:31] <jmoncayo> amphi, but i dont have that problem on my desktop, its only with this laptop
[06:31] <amphi> CarlFK: I haven't needed to use them, but I read about them
[06:32] <Warbo> LadyVix: First of all open gnome-system-monitor (I think it's in System Tools)
[06:32] <itsmike> have a portable computer for sale - $450 is the amount include ship. case, wireless router.  message if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if interested
[06:32] <amphi> jmoncayo: dunno - I don't like translucent terms, so I never paid them much heed
[06:32] <tritium_> itsmike: I told you not to advertise in here already!
[06:32] <blindx> I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )
[06:32] <CarlFK> amphi: I had a 256 meg laptop stick that had a few bad bits... could never get it to work, freind looked at it and said "forget it"
[06:32] <CarlFK> hmm, kinda worked: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12579
[06:33] <dts> how would i run badblocks on my primary partition?
[06:33] <amphi> CarlFK: I had some marginal ram in my old t22, but the errors 'moved around', so I just underclocked it a bit
[06:33] <CarlFK> I don't think firefox can deal with a 350k+ web page
[06:33] <LadyVix> Warbo: ok I have that open...
[06:34] <Warbo> LadyVix: What kind of levels are the CPU and RAM in Resources?
[06:34] <nickgarvey> what wolud be the command to compress a folder in tar.gz? I don't understand the man file
[06:34] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: im trying ndiswrapper again
[06:34] <amphi> CarlFK: I opened multi-megabyte html pages in ancient versions of mozilla
[06:34] <Warbo> nickgarvey: tar -xzcf folder (I think)
[06:34] <LadyVix> Warbo: CPU10% but it keeps changing Memory is 23%
[06:35] <Warbo> No!
[06:35] <jmoncayo> amphi, i have other question, i have a python script for my battery status and it seems that my battery is dying, because when i gets complitly charged it says it is at 80% and it used to say 100%
[06:35] <nickgarvey> Warbo: nope, can't be, the x means extract
[06:35] <Warbo> tar -zf archive foler
[06:35] <CarlFK> amphi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12579  the last line I see is # 1927 Apr1918:39:57debconf:<--0multiselectbackupprogresscancel
[06:35] <morfic> Warbo: not x and c, one or the other, c in his case
[06:35] <amphi> jmoncayo: you might need to run it down to recalibrate it
[06:35] <CarlFK> amphi: and then lots of 'emptyness'
[06:35] <Warbo> LadyVix:  OK, so your system isn't under any huge load
[06:35] <LadyVix> Warbo: CPU is 3% now
[06:35] <Warbo> LadyVix: That's normal
[06:36] <blindx> I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )
[06:36] <Warbo> LadyVix: It may have been XChat, I don't know
[06:36] <amphi> CarlFK: line numbers run out at 4941 here, but the file continues...
[06:36] <Warbo> LadyVix: Sadly any testing will result in a crash
[06:36] <LadyVix> Warbo: ok ... tell me the proper way to "upgrade" firefox in Ubuntu
[06:36] <nickgarvey> morfic: wait what shoud I be typing?
[06:36] <LTR2000> how do igive myself permissions to my OWN HOME FOLDER
[06:36] <LadyVix> Warbo: because i just downloaded another copy and extracted it
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> LTR2000,  Hmm.. what did you do that removed them?
[06:36] <nickgarvey> LTR2000: sudo chmod 700 /home/user if you want only ou to be able to see it
[06:37] <amphi> CarlFK: last line I see is "5 logical  378.3 MB   F swap       swap   , , Undo changes to partitions, Finish partitioning and write changes to disk"
[06:37] <morfic> nickgarvey: tar zcf thearchive.tgz thedirtobackup/
[06:37] <LTR2000> nickgarvey
[06:37] <nickgarvey> morfic: thank you
[06:37] <CarlFK> amphi: the file was made with head -n 4940 syslog >syslog4940  so thats about right
[06:37] <amphi> CarlFK: according to w3m it's over a meg
[06:37] <Warbo> LadyVix: System>Administration>Syanptic Package Manager. Reload then Mark All Upgrades then Apply
[06:37] <LTR2000> i want to copy a folder from my NTFS drive to my home folder to burn it
[06:37] <LTR2000> and it says i dont have permissions
[06:37] <blindx> how are you doing it, LTR2000 ?
[06:37] <CarlFK> amphi: the file was 350k - guess threre is a bit of overhead
[06:37] <Warbo> LadyVix: Downloading software from websites? Tsk, tsk. No GPG keys, no dependencies. That's such a windows way of working
[06:37] <morfic> nickgarvey: switch z to j for bzip2 and thus better compression, and now read man tar on those options again ;)
[06:37] <jmoncayo> amphi, well i think so but it means the battery is dying?i am using the /proc/acpi/battery/BATO/state file for this script?
[06:37] <LTR2000> drag and drop
[06:38] <joshr> is there a guide anywhere to uninstall just about everything that comes with ubuntu, like all the programs that are non essential
[06:38] <LadyVix> Warbo: it wouldnt let me said it was as "high" as it would go... and the only "force" was a lower one. and all the "extentions" for firefox woudlnt work with the version of the browser that came with Ubuntu
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> joshr,  check the wikis for ubuntu-light I think
[06:38] <joshr> thanks
[06:38] <cafuego> joshr: What's not essential for you may be for me.
[06:38] <intelikey> hmmm is there a line in /proc/ that contains the current cpu usage ?
[06:38] <joshr> i am trying to remove everything not essential to a media center used pc
[06:38] <Warbo> LadyVix: If you want Firefox 1.5 then there is a guide somewhere (anybody?) but it is also in Dapper
[06:38] <LadyVix> Warbo: *blushes*.. what a GPG?
[06:39] <cafuego> /proc/stat
[06:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell LadyVix about gpg
[06:39] <FlannelKing> !ff
[06:39] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, FlannelKing
[06:39] <FlannelKing> !ff1.5
[06:39] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:39] <amphi> jmoncayo: do 'cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info | grep capacity | head -n2' to see how moribund it is
[06:39] <Warbo> LadyVix: PGP=Pretty Good Privacy. GPG= GNU version. Checks keys to make sure stuff is genuine and from a trusted source
[06:39] <Smirker_L> :P
[06:39] <Warbo> How would LadyVix upgrade Firefox?
[06:40] <intelikey> cafuego danke
[06:40] <jmoncayo> design capacity:         65120 mWh
[06:40] <jmoncayo> last full capacity:      34040 mWh
[06:40] <blindx> I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )
[06:40] <Plitskin> Hi, is there a HOWTO on how to create a startup script? I just want to invoke a single command before X window starts up... I'm trying to disable mouse tapping...
[06:40] <amphi> jmoncayo: so it's degenerated somwhat
[06:40] <Warbo> blindx: I don't get the Bundle:: thing (is it obvious?)
[06:41] <xplore> petrus
[06:41] <blindx> that's the name of it
[06:41] <blindx> it's a perl module
[06:41] <LadyVix> Warbo: Pretty much my life has been "work work... play NWN for a few hours... work work....  Upgrading Firefox?
[06:41] <jmoncayo> amphi, why could it be for?
[06:41] <xplore> xpole
[06:41] <amphi> jmoncayo: Lion batteries just degenerate - heat accelerates the decay
[06:41] <Warbo> Something Ubotu knows?
[06:41] <intelikey> Plitskin put your command in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh  just before the  exit 0  at the bottom.
[06:41] <Madpilot> !tell Warbo about ff1.5
[06:41] <LadyVix> Warbo: all I use the browser for is to check the bank balance
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  some of that depends on the window manager.. Gnome has a  gnomerc file i recall - or ya could make a script and put it in the gnome 'session' thats gets ran at startup.. or a dozen other ways to do it.
[06:42] <Warbo> Madpilot: It's actually for LadyVix!
[06:42] <Madpilot> !tell LadyVix about ff1.5
[06:42] <Warbo> Madpilot: Thank you
[06:42] <amphi> jmoncayo: you can reduce heat a bit by undervolting the cpu
[06:42] <blindx> go with lynx for checking bank balances.
[06:42] <blindx> pwn
[06:42] <amphi> w3m
[06:42] <Madpilot> there we go - Warbo anyone can give the bot orders like that, btw
[06:42] <invisage01> Madpilot: what does that !tell stuff do?
[06:42] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: Thanks, will try that now...
[06:42] <Madpilot> invisage01, gets the bot to send pm
[06:42] <jmoncayo> amphi, so heat is the enemy here, that could be the problem this laptop was on for like three days in a row,
[06:42] <Warbo> madpilot: I didn't know what it was
[06:42] <Madpilot> s to people
[06:42] <zcat[1] > amphi: I tried. Not sure about heat but I managed to reduce stability quite a lot.
[06:43] <Madpilot> bleh, blasted Enter key :P
[06:43] <amphi> jmoncayo: the battery will lose capacity anyway - having them fully charged while not using them for long periods isn't good either
[06:43] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: do I need to restart my machine after I edit the file?
[06:43] <Warbo> blindx: Lynx? down, down, down, down, down....
[06:44] <blindx> lynx owns. lol
[06:44] <intelikey> links2 -g
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  depends on what you are doing exactly. Theres several ways you could do this.
[06:44] <Warbo> blindx: Lynx is good for finding out why X crashed
[06:44] <zcat[1] > google doesn't like lynx :(
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  exit out of X and relogin back in..  proberly is all ya need.
[06:44] <amphi> zcat[1] : heh - I use mprime in torture mode to find the minimum safe voltages, and it's been stable, even running povray for days at a time
[06:44] <Warbo> zcat: Acceppt the cookie and it's OK
[06:44] <intelikey> links
[06:44] <blindx> Wouldn't it be cool to have a piece of paper... as a web browser?
[06:44] <amphi> zcat[1] : google likes w3m
[06:44] <blindx> I'm going to invent it.
[06:44] <zcat[1] > depends on the version of lynx.. I keep getting refused
[06:45] <LadyVix> Warbo: pardon but now what?
[06:45] <Warbo> blindx: Not if I beat you to the patent office...
[06:45] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: thanks, I hope I wouldn't have to do any scripting at all though...
[06:45] <blindx> Warbo: gonna sue me? :P
[06:45] <jmoncayo> amphi, oh thats interesting, but in last few days i have been losing capacity extreamly fast
[06:45] <FlannelKing> too late guys, I already postmarked the idea to myself.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  its a 2 line 'script' ya could make so you got a GDM  menu item as well. :P lol.
[06:45] <blindx> I want to install a USB port right behind my ear.
[06:45] <zcat[1] >  Your client has issued a malformed or illegal request.
[06:45] <Warbo> LadyVix: Well if you have followed the guide then you should have got rid of your downloaded Firefox, which was probably causing those problems.
[06:45] <blindx> just plug in a flash drive..
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  or a 2 line .xinitrc file . if you want to use the console and 'startx'
[06:45] <blindx> learn things in an instant
[06:46] <blindx> omg, i'd install linux on my brain
[06:46] <zcat[1] > error 400..
[06:46] <Warbo> blindx: Well I'm sure Linux would support it. x86, m68k, ppc, brain...
[06:46] <intelikey> blindx not me.   i like linux.  but i'll keep the os i was born with....
[06:46] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: This whole thing is messing my brain... I hope I could find the time to read about that...
[06:46] <blindx> Well I'd keep the old one.
[06:46] <blindx> use grub
[06:47] <intelikey> lol
[06:47] <Warbo> blindx: Errr. Grub in my brain
[06:47] <zcat[1] > totally appropriate..
[06:47] <intelikey> only if lilo will work..... then i'll think about it.
[06:47] <LadyVix> Warbo: this is what it says libstdc++5 is already newest version
[06:47] <blindx> Anyways, I still need help. lemme doskey up to find my pastebin link.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  old skool way. :P  create a .xinitrc file for the user. have it run the command (with a & at the end) then run gnome-session.  Startx will startx and run that .xinitrc
[06:47] <Warbo> LadyVix: That means it doesn't need upgrading
[06:47] <blindx> ...I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )
[06:47] <biovore> Warbo: sounds like you need a wood pecker to peck on your head
[06:48] <Warbo> biovore: Well, it's full of holes already
[06:48] <intelikey> biovore  ^5
[06:48] <Plitskin> Dr_WIllis: is it legal to put a command after rm -f /tmp/.clean /var/run/.clean /var/lock/.clean
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,   you mean in the .xinitrc ?
[06:48] <rukuartic> Plitskin: put and && at the end? I think?
[06:48] <Plitskin> nope, the bootmisc.sh
[06:48] <biovore> intelikey: trign to get lilo installed?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> never messed with bootmisc.sh
[06:49] <Warbo> !tell me about ff1.5
[06:49] <paloyme> where can i find the linux source directory?
[06:49] <Warbo> COOL!
[06:49] <Phlosten> rm -r /tmp/.clean && rm -f /var/run/.clean etc
[06:49] <Plitskin> Actually, I'm gonna put it on another line...
[06:49] <paloyme> i mean the kernel sources
[06:49] <Warbo> Oh.
[06:49] <zcat[1] > should be OK to put a command anywhere between '#!/bin/bash' and 'exit 0'
[06:49] <Warbo> paloyme: Usually /lib/modules/kernelversion/build
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> be sure the command will EXIT and not 'hang' the shell..
[06:49] <blindx> Are there any graphical SQL programs out there? >_>
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> or spawn it to the bg with  &
[06:49] <paloyme> thanks warbo
[06:49] <LadyVix> Warbo: *shakes head* I have 2 copies of Firefox on my machine... version 1.08 which came with Ubuntu and version <IP_ADDRESS> which i downloaded. the 1.08 is the highest available to integrate.
[06:50] <Plitskin> hmmm... ok...
[06:50] <intelikey> Phlosten you know that  && only exec's 2 if 1 completes without error   1 ; 2    will run the both reguardless.
[06:50] <harisund> Does anybody have an idea why my sound input is not working? Ubuntu correctly identified my ESS Maestro3 PCI card, and I can hear all sounds, but it is refusing to record my input. Anything I should do?
[06:50] <Plitskin> sorry for being reduntant but...
[06:50] <Madpilot> LadyVix, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion, if you haven't already
[06:50] <Warbo> LadyVix: Yes. You should always use Ubuntu's packages. The only problem is that Breezy is a little out of date at the moment
[06:50] <Plitskin> should I put the   .xinitrc file in the init.d directory?
[06:50] <Warbo> LadyVix: Do you really need your plugins?
[06:50] <zcat[1] > intelikey: which means it won't happen if any of the .clean files are missing (and thus fail to be rm'd)
[06:50] <Plitskin> or should it be in my home directory?
[06:50] <Phlosten> intelikey, no i didnt, there ya go, I do now ;)
[06:51] <LadyVix> I'm getting So tired of that *shakes head from the fall*
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  TOTALLY wrong.. its a PER user file
[06:51] <harisund> Should I cofigure Line In or microphone or something? I realy want to use Skype and Ekiga and others..
[06:51] <intelikey> Phlosten also of note    1 || 2     2 only runs if 1 fails.    the inverse of &&
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  its read when the user starts X with 'startx'
[06:51] <LadyVix> Warbo: the browser is a side issue... I just want my sound to work... and it doesnt
[06:51] <Phlosten> intelikey, ooh more brain filling goodness
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  nothing to do with init.d or anythign else.
[06:52] <Warbo> LadyVix: If you want latest stuff then go the way of Dapper, but stability is important to us Linux folk (and security, which is intertwined with stability) and a major upgrade like 1.0 to 1.5 is not worth all of the debugging and stabilising so close to Dapper
[06:52] <Patrick_> Is there pornography in the latest version of Ubuntu?
[06:52] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: where should I place it then? I should be creating one right?
[06:52] <tritium_> no, Patrick_
[06:52] <zcat[1] > Patrick_: there is in mine!
[06:52] <LadyVix> *looks confused* I want my Windows back... i'm so confused here
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  its in the USERS home dir. :P
[06:52] <FlannelKing> Patrick_: no.  there hasn't been that for three versions
[06:52] <Patrick_> Sweet.
[06:52] <Warbo> LadyVix: OK, do you know who makes your soundcard and it's model? (maybe Device Manager?)
[06:53] <intelikey> Phlosten just thought you might want to know if you were playing around in scripts....    it's good to know how to read them...
[06:53] <tritium_> *sigh*
[06:53] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: thank you so much :D
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  same as wll the other .whatever files (note the .)
[06:53] <harisund> what is the difference between microphone and line in? Which should I enable to start chating on Skype, Ekiga etc/
[06:53] <Warbo> LadyVix: Linux is LOGICAL. There is a big difference between Linux and Windows
[06:53] <Phlosten> intelikey, its all good, I am slowly learning scripts etc, so it all helps
[06:53] <nickgarvey> line in is.. blue?
[06:53] <intelikey> Plitskin put your command in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh  just before the  exit 0  at the bottom.
[06:53] <harisund> And should I be using Alsa or OSS? /me is totally confused when it comes to audio input?
[06:53] <nickgarvey> I think?
[06:53] <LadyVix> Warbo:   http://www3.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=PSC724/17&scy=US&slg=en
[06:53] <LTR2000> how do i copy a folder to my desktop in terminal
[06:53] <intelikey> ^ that's a repete from the first time Phlosten asked.
[06:54] <Warbo> LadyVix: Oh yeah...
[06:54] <nickgarvey> LTR2000: cp /path/to/folder ~/Desktop
[06:54] <nickgarvey> LTR2000: wait no
[06:54] <nickgarvey> LTR2000: cp -are /path/to/folder ~/Desktop
[06:54] <LadyVix> Warbo the other is onboard soundchip with the Shuttle MB
[06:54] <nickgarvey> what?!
[06:54] <nickgarvey> LTR2000: cp -R /path/to/folder ~/Desktop
[06:54] <nickgarvey> do not auto correct me!
[06:54] <nickgarvey> so how are you
[06:54] <nickgarvey> I DID NOT TYPE THAT!
[06:55] <LadyVix> Warbo: I have had sound issues with drivers even with windows
[06:55] <LadyVix> but never with the onboard only the philips
[06:55] <paloyme> what does # in a terminal do?
[06:56] <nickgarvey> hmm... what is this midnight commander...
[06:56] <nickgarvey> paloyme: makes everything after it not part of the command
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> paloyme,  you really MAY want to goole for a bash tutorial or 3.
[06:56] <paloyme> so its like a comment?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> it is a comment.  Because of the Winfixer 2006 Your computer may have Registry errors.... message I just got looking for your driver
[06:56] <Plitskin> ok, edit the bootmis.sh is what I did... Now I will restart my system... thanks everyone...
[06:56] <paloyme> paloyme,  you really MAY want to goole for a bash tutorial or 3, whats a 3?
[06:56] <Warbo> :(
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  you dident put an X related command in there did ya?
[06:57] <intelikey> paloyme or even   man bash   and read it through.
[06:57] <King-of-no-pants> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found
[06:57] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: same thing happend to be..
[06:57] <zcat[1] > Warbo: go on.. click on it.. it's fun to see how far that stuff can get under wine :)
[06:57] <Plitskin> Dr_illis: this is the only command I put there... tpconfig --tapmode=0
[06:57] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: how did I fix it...
[06:57] <Phlosten> cyphase, i got them ;)
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  oh.. thats fine. :P
[06:57] <cyphase> lol
[06:57] <bert__> Ok, And I return... Still searching for a Debian Based Game, anyone have any idea?
[06:57] <harisund> Breezy has correctly identified my sound card ESS Maestro3 PCI. Sound output is awesome. However, it is unable to record my voice. Do i choose ALSA or OSS? Do I choose microphone or line in? What should I do to start using Skype, Ekiga etc?
[06:57] <LadyVix> Warbo: What is Winfixer? and registry errors? how can that be since this is a fresh wiped harddrive that i installed to
[06:57] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: Id love to know
[06:57] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: I hope I wouldn't crash my system :D
[06:58] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: have your kernel sources?
[06:58] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: ?
[06:58] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: all this trouble just to disable the touchpad lolz
[06:58] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: guess not, second
[06:58] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: you mean an install cd?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,   trivial really.
[06:58] <LTR2000> how come there is an X beside the folders
[06:58] <Warbo> LadyVix: No no, just a spam popup thing (wow, I can really get registry errors in Linux :)) Anyway I found a page from 2005 which said there are no drivers. Maybe there are now though
[06:58] <bert__> Can anybody find me a Debian Based version of Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, or any Multiplayer game, of the sort?
[06:58] <melaren> My computer seems to freeze up cold when playing music through rhythmbox.  How would I go about pinpointing the cause?
[06:58] <Plitskin> ok, brb
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  it will now take ya all of like 20 sec to do again if ya needed to
[06:59] <titanium_platypu> I am trying to learn Flightgear
[06:59] <zcat[1] > Plitskin: suggestion; lift keyboard; unplug touchpad; replace keyboard.
[06:59] <Warbo> LadyVix: Put the output of "lspci" into pastebin please
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> My Laptop has an OFF button on it next to the touchpad.
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:59] <titanium_platypu> the lat. and long. in the HUD doesn't change no matter what airport I go to
[06:59] <titanium_platypu> what the deuce?
[06:59] <eggzeck> apt-cache search <programname>
[06:59] <intelikey> trubble.... edit one init script, add one command.....   trubble ?
[06:59] <eggzeck> oops, sorry that was meant for somewhere else...
[06:59] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: did you compile your own or use ndiswrapper from the repositories?
[07:00] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i used ndiswrapper from the synaptic package manager
[07:00] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: I uninstalled it earlier today, because it was crashing my system
[07:00] <LadyVix> Warbo: try this one.... http://www3.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?scy=US&slg=AEN&cat=PC_AUDIO_CA&sct=SOUNDCARDS_SU&session=20060420010018_<IP_ADDRESS>&grp=MONITORS_PC_PERIPHERALS_GR&ctn=PSC724/17&mid=Link_Software&hlt=Link_Software
[07:00] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: are you comfortable compiling your own programs? its a breeze trust e
[07:00] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: I went through and deleted every thing that said ndiswrapper, just like the ndiswrapper wiki told me to
[07:01] <bert__> I take it as, Not a soul in here, can help me, out of almost 700 People, Nobody.. Well I guess I'm screwed.. :)
[07:01] <LadyVix> Warbo: and how do I do that? and where is lspci?
[07:01] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: if you can lead me through it, I'll do it
[07:01] <melaren> Help Please.  My computer seems to freeze up cold when playing music through rhythmbox.  How would I go about pinpointing the cause?
[07:01] <zcat[1] > bert__: what was teh question?
[07:01] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: good, apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils, rm -are /etc/ndiswrapper, rm -are /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[07:01] <Warbo> LadyVix: Open a terminal (Applications>Accessories>Terminal) and type lspci
[07:01] <nickgarvey> WHERE IT SAYS ARE PUT R
[07:01] <nickgarvey> (twitch)
[07:01] <nickgarvey> let me turn that off..
[07:02] <cowlikk> does anyone know how i can access my windows network
[07:02] <LadyVix> Warbo: *blinks* em... now what?
[07:02] <bert__> zcat[1] : I need to find a Debian based war game, LIke Wolfenstein: enemy territoriy, I did find WolfET, for Linux, but it's a .run file and it says that it failed the installation at this x86/glibc-2.1...so I figured I could find a Debian based one, and make things easier on myself.
[07:02] <FlannelKing> cowlikk: samba
[07:02] <nickgarvey> !tell cowlikk about samba
[07:02] <Warbo> LadyVix: It give you loads of crazy writing? copy it into pastebin please
[07:02] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ok is ndiswrapper gone?
[07:03] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: and you are sure you have the right drivers?
[07:03] <cowlikk> how do i get/use samba
[07:03] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: not yet, almost
[07:03] <nickgarvey> cowlikk: look at the link ubotu sent you
[07:03] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: yeah, ive got the right drivers
[07:03] <eneried> hello
[07:03] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ok tell me when ndiswrapper is gone
[07:03] <eneried> me now
[07:03] <LadyVix> how do i get to pastebin ?
[07:03] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: ok
[07:03] <nickgarvey> !tell LadyVix about paste
[07:03] <eneried> me again, sorry
[07:03] <nickgarvey> you better be sorry!
[07:03] <nickgarvey> looking for help in a support channel
[07:03] <nickgarvey> what's wrong with you
[07:03] <reter> how can one add java in hoary
[07:03] <Warbo> LadyVix: pastebin.com
[07:04] <SD> samba
[07:04] <zcat[1] > bert__: package management is good. search in synaptic and see what's already available. Much easier than trying to get some random installer to work.
[07:04] <nickgarvey> reter: hoary? sure you still want to run that?
[07:04] <mi> hi just a first run
[07:04] <reter> !tell reter java
[07:04] <eneried> er... did you know how the next ubuntu wwill be released? i read somewhere that they are planing to ship it in DVD format but i dunno
[07:04] <nickgarvey> !tell reter about java
[07:04] <tritium_> eneried: in June
[07:04] <nickgarvey> eneried: I'd say.. download
[07:04] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: invalid option -- a
[07:04] <bert__> zcat[1] : Ok, Do you have Step - by - Step on how to do this, FYI, This is my first day on Linux.. I'm slowly learning...So... Where do I begin? :)
[07:04] <invisage01> !tell invisage01 about java
[07:04] <eggzeck> eneried, or upgrade with apt
[07:05] <LadyVix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12582
[07:05] <eneried> hehe
[07:05] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: where it says "are" put "r" that was my autocorrenting IM
[07:05] <King-of-no-pants> nice
[07:05] <eneried> but now we're interested in the release form, because we want to work with ubuntu
[07:05] <LadyVix> Warbo: did you get that?    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12582
[07:05] <zcat[1] > alt-F2, type 'synaptic', enter your password..
[07:05] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: while removing ndiswrapper-utils, directory `/etc/ndiswrapper' not empty so not removed.
[07:06] <mikeo1> anyone here using xgl?
[07:06] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: put -r after rm
[07:06] <Warbo> LadyVix: You're root???!!!
[07:06] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: rm -r /etc/ndiswrapper
[07:06] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: rm -r /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[07:06] <eneried> and we want to have the packages for offline instalations, we want to use ubuntu with offline instalations, for example, in installations to schools and offices
[07:06] <nickgarvey> eneried: look into edubuntu?
[07:06] <Warbo> LadyVix: You better not be logged in as root grahically!
[07:06] <eneried> yes i looked edubuntu too
[07:07] <LadyVix> Warbo: *shrugs* i'll Unroot myself later
[07:07] <reter> whats wrong with hoary
[07:07] <zcat[1] > mikeo1: I was.. later updates broke it..
[07:07] <eggzeck> why can't she be logged in as root? :P
[07:07] <LadyVix> i'm not...
[07:07] <tritium_> nothing, reter.  There's just a newer stable release.
[07:07] <eneried> but i want to get ubuntu in dvds like we can do with debian, but peersonaly i preffer ubuntu over debian
[07:07] <LadyVix> Warbo: i'm logged in as user in the GUI
[07:07] <andreww> hello
[07:07] <Warbo> LadyVix: OK. First thing's first, don't be root. (OMG, do these Windows users know nothing? Downloading software and running it as root? Then asking why it crashes?)
[07:07] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: cannot remove `/etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper': no such file or directory
[07:08] <Warbo> LadyVix: Did you sudo -s -H or sudo -i?
[07:08] <eneried> ubuntu is more end-user oriented than any other linux distro, and even windows
[07:08] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: sounds good to me
[07:08] <zcat[1] > bert__: you got that far?
[07:08] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: apt-get install subversion
[07:08] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: me too
[07:08] <Warbo> LadyVix: Well it sees your AC 97 (as we knew)
[07:08] <andreww> has anyone got Ubuntu working with Bell Sympatico?
[07:08] <bert__> zcat[1] : no because I'm not logged in under root, so how would I do it in terminal, to get that far?...
[07:08] <LadyVix> Warbo: I didnt login as root... and i dont know how to do that.... I opened the terminal window it opened as root and asked for password *shrugs*
[07:09] <Warbo> LadyVix: Oh no...
[07:09] <zcat[1] > bert__: don't need to be root, just the first user (you're using ubuntu right?) in the gui
[07:09] <Warbo> LadyVix: You didn't use the dreaded Automatix did you?
[07:09] <LadyVix> Warbo: dont go having palpatations on me... and whats that?
[07:09] <nickgarvey> don't say that word Warbo!
[07:09] <FlannelKing> that's a no ;)
[07:09] <Warbo> LadyVix: Nothing nothing.....
[07:10] <Warbo> Speak of it and it shall install...
[07:10] <LadyVix> Warbo: I used the Ubuntu installer that came on the disk.... i installed  yesterday at about 9am...
[07:10] <bert__> zcat[1] : Yes, I am using Ubuntu, and it says this when I try to do what you said, "You must run this program as root user"
[07:10] <Warbo> LadyVix: OK.
[07:10] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: alright
[07:10] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: thats setup
[07:10] <melaren> What do you guys think about easyubuntu?  Any problems with it?
[07:10] <zcat[1] > bert__: I'm assuming a fairly normal ubuntu install, let me know if you chose server or kubuntu or did something else that breaks my assumptions :)
[07:10] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: copy this command
[07:10] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: "svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ndiswrapper/trunk/ndiswrapper ndiswrapper"
[07:10] <Madpilot> bert__, which tutorial are you following? URL, please?
[07:10] <Warbo> LadyVix: Well, for a start have you tried your speakers in the on board sound?
[07:10] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: without the "
[07:10] <intelikey> i had no idea there was so much software devoted to GAMEs in linux    apt-cache search game | less
[07:11] <eneried> does anybody know where to download DVDs or CDs with unioverse and multiverse?
[07:11] <bert__> madpilot: I'm not following any tutorial.. zcat[1]  is helping me.
[07:11] <Madpilot> intelikey, try Same Gnome, if you like puzzle games
[07:11] <cowlikk> how do i use samba
[07:11] <nickgarvey> !samba
[07:11] <bert__> zcat[1] : I did the workstation, and it's Dapper I think...
[07:11] <Warbo> eneried: Don't think it can be done
[07:11] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[07:11] <intelikey> Madpilot i've seen that/
[07:11] <LadyVix> Warbo: thats the first thing i did was switch my speakers to the output on the MB... but nada
[07:11] <nickgarvey> cowlikk: go there
[07:11] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: done?
[07:12] <zcat[1] > bert__: ok.. you probably want a desktop install first. not a lot of stuff (games in particular) is going to work from the console
[07:12] <intelikey> Madpilot actually i don't play games.....  hardly ever.    too old for such.
[07:12] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: yep
[07:12] <eneried> Warbo, so that DVDs doesn't exist?
[07:12] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: cd ndis(hit tab for autocomplete)
[07:12] <hupp3l> hey
[07:12] <hupp3l> how can I access files from my windows partition?
[07:12] <bert__> zcat[1] : are you kidding me.... ?... so I have to reformat it again?.. or is there another option that's less painful :)
[07:12] <kaha> *46 and plays games*
[07:12] <zcat[1] > solid_liq: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   .. and wait a few hours :)
[07:12] <mia> hey
[07:12] <Warbo> LadyVix: (wishing there was the Fedora Sound Test thingy on Ubuntu) well it's probably trying to use the soundin your Phillips stuff. Let's tell it to use AC 97 which works
[07:12] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: could not read status line: secure connection truncated
[07:13] <Madpilot> bert__, you can install the full desktop on top of the server/workstation install
[07:13] <Whyvas> hupp3l, google mounting ntfs ubuntu
[07:13] <intelikey> !tell hupp3l about ntfs
[07:13] <melaren> Warbo: what do you think about easyubuntu?
[07:13] <bert__> Madpilot: How do I do that?
[07:13] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: wait what? what did you do?
[07:13] <FlannelKing> easyUbuntu is good! auto- is bad!
[07:13] <Warbo> eneried: There is no DVD (AFAIK) of Universe and Multiverse, and Canonical would never make one to include with Dapper
[07:13] <King-of-no-pants> the svn co https
[07:13] <LadyVix> Warbo: and how do I do that?
[07:13] <Madpilot> bert__, at the command line, type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" w/o the quotes
[07:13] <zcat[1] > sorry
[07:13] <zcat[1] > bert__: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   .. and wait a few hours :)
[07:13] <Warbo> melaren: I haven't heard much bad about it. I use neither (I like Linux to be Linux)
[07:13] <bert__> Madpilot: Eh.. How long will that take...*scared*
[07:13] <Warbo> LadyVix: I'm getting to that
[07:14] <eneried> oh bad notice
[07:14] <bert__> zcat[1] : Oh ok
[07:14] <insta> Does anyone have an easy way, from a CLI machine, send an MP3 playlist to a ShoutCAST ( *not* IceCAST ) server?
[07:14] <FlannelKing> eneried: ubuntu isn't like debian where you can download oodles of packages on CD, although you can download the debs of the stuff you want, burn to CDs, and install them locally.
[07:14] <LadyVix> Warbo: I'm sorry i get grumpy when my computer doesnt work right... I havent killed any trolls in about a week because of it
[07:14] <hupp3l> thank you
[07:14] <melaren> Warbo: Ok cool.  Yeah, so the general consensus seems to be that automatix is evil?
[07:14] <Madpilot> bert__, it's a big batch of downloads - probably a few hundred Mb, I really don't know
[07:14] <Warbo> LadyVix: Simple thing to try first: Preferences > Sound
[07:14] <eneried> how good or bad is the idea of using Ubuntu with Debian packages?
[07:14] <bert__> Madpilot: uh.. error already..
[07:14] <zcat[1] > bert__: actually it will probably grab most of it off the CD
[07:15] <intelikey> any time hupp3l
[07:15] <zcat[1] > eneried: very very bad.
[07:15] <Whyvas> is there a gui to pick your default window manager???
[07:15] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: here we go
[07:15] <LadyVix> Warbo: thats the first thing i tried ws the in GUI preferences... but ok...
[07:15] <bert__> Madpilot: One second, I will try this.. it says to do this instead, apt get -f..
[07:15] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ok type uname -r and copy and paste the number here
[07:15] <Warbo> melaren: Yes. It does stuff without asking and crazy things like binding System Monitor to ctrl-alt-delete
[07:15] <intelikey> eneried bad idea.
[07:15] <eneried> bad? even using Debian release newer than ubuntu release?
[07:15] <Warbo> LadyVix: Do you get multiple options in the device box?
[07:15] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: wait, what about the cd ndis
[07:15] <bert__> Madpilot: Still didn't work.. Hm..
[07:15] <melaren> Warbo: k, thanks.
[07:15] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: you did it right?
[07:15] <King-of-no-pants> no
[07:16] <zcat[1] > ubuntu is sometimes compatable with debian packages.. but don't rely on it.
[07:16] <Madpilot> bert__, what's the full error message (pastebin if it's more than one line)
[07:16] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: do it, then paste what I told you
[07:16] <bert__> zcat[1] :
[07:16] <bert__> zcat[1] : ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[07:16] <bert__> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[07:16] <bert__> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:16] <bert__>   xbattle: Depends: xlibs (> 4.1.0) but it is not going to be installed
[07:16] <bert__> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[07:16] <insta> ideas?  anyone?
[07:16] <nickgarvey> !tell bert__ about paste
[07:16] <reter> chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[07:16] <intelikey> eneried yes, bad idea.  because just because it's a .deb  doesn't mean it's compiled against the same glibc
[07:16] <hupp3l> but i dont understand then it looks like it is already mounted in media
[07:16] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: no such file or directory
[07:16] <hupp3l> hda1 so why cant i access it
[07:16] <reter> i did this command and it doesnt find the downloaded file. chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[07:16] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: hit tab.. after ndis...
[07:16] <zcat[1] > bert__: sudo apt-get -f install   sounds like it might help :)
[07:16] <LadyVix> Warbo: under Sound i dont have much of a selection but nothing to select input or output
[07:17] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: autocomplete..
[07:17] <hupp3l> it asks me to be root
[07:17] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey:neato
[07:17] <Warbo> LadyVix: Hmmm...
[07:17] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: ok
[07:17] <hupp3l> but when i go sudo cd /media/hda1
[07:17] <bert__> zcat[1]  did that, and got the same error
[07:17] <Madpilot> bert__, pastebin! - but it looks like you've already got the desktop installed
[07:17] <hupp3l> it wont help
[07:17] <zcat[1] > hmmmm..
[07:17] <intelikey> it's   !borked    but i'm not rewriting that command.
[07:17] <LadyVix> Warbo: under Multimedia i have a selection
[07:17] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: now what?
[07:17] <Madpilot> bert__, in Ubuntu, do you have a graphical desktop, or just the command line?
[07:17] <Warbo> Dammit, no alsa-setup thingy like Debian
[07:17] <eneried> um, so working in that way is not recommended
[07:17] <eneried> so if use debian dvds was a not good idea, where we can get universe or multiverse for offline use?
[07:18] <gpd> my nvidia kernel verison is busted in dapper - is this known?
[07:18] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: wait I think I can do this a cool way
[07:18] <bert__> Madpilot: Graphical, I assume..(Mind ye', first day ever on Linux..speak Lamens) :)
[07:18] <tritium_> Warbo: it was buggy, and not maintained
[07:18] <LadyVix> Warbo: I tried Debian first... the night before last... but i kept getting Xwindow could not start
[07:18] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:18] <eneried> we found some at cargol.net, but there're not amd64 or mac packages :(
[07:18] <Warbo> tritium_: Yeah, but I don;t understand alsactrl
[07:18] <hupp3l> intelikey: it is already mounted in media/hda1
[07:18] <LadyVix> and it went to command promt...
[07:18] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: that would be pretty sweet if that command worked, which it looks like it will
[07:18] <intelikey> gpd not by those that claim that dapper is "rock solid"
[07:18] <Madpilot> bert__, do you have a brown desktop, and pretty stuff, or just a little text prompt?
[07:18] <hupp3l> why cant i access it though, i know i need to be as root
[07:19] <Warbo> LadyVix: I forgot Multimedia Selector is in Breezy actually! (I spent a while testing my webcam in Dapper, worked straight away in Ekiga)
[07:19] <cowlikk> argggg
[07:19] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: replace uname with my username?
[07:19] <bert__> madpilot: I already changed the background of the desktop, but it was a cool lookin' blue one at first, if that helps.
[07:19] <gpd> intelikey: nvidia driver was fine until yesterday - now i get version conflict  - i suppose it will be fixed soon :)
[07:19] <hupp3l> hupp3l@huplinux:~/Desktop$ sudo cd /media/hda1/
[07:19] <hupp3l> sudo: cd: command not found
[07:19] <bert__> Madpilot: I updated to dapper today
[07:19] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: no don't replace anything
[07:19] <Madpilot> bert__, if it was blue, you're probably running Kubuntu, yes?
[07:19] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:19] <Phlosten> xfce?
[07:19] <LadyVix> Warbo: eh? only the first sentence did i understand there...
[07:19] <intelikey> hupp3l gksudo nautilus       and browse there.
[07:19] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: put that exactly
[07:19] <Warbo> LadyVix: OK, you will get some options in Multimedia, but they all point to ALSA (eventually) and ALSA ain't working
[07:19] <paloyme> what could be missing from my firefox? i cant seem to find any plug ins that could help me browse in this site... www.eriworld.net, then go to "student logins"
[07:19] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: neato
[07:20] <bert__> Madpilot: I don't think so??... when it loads, it says Ubuntu..
[07:20] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: its going
[07:20] <LadyVix> Warbo: exactly
[07:20] <gpm> when's dapper coming out (or planned to come out)?
[07:20] <Phlosten> 1st june
[07:20] <hupp3l> huh gksudo nautilus????
[07:20] <intelikey> gpd yeah i hope,  i was taking a poke at another guy with the "rock solid"  comment.
[07:20] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: good
[07:20] <Madpilot> bert__, I think we're both confused... :P what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:20] <eneried> Dapper have the code of ubuntu 6.06 i think on june
[07:20] <Warbo> LadyVix: Doesn't matter (The Multimedia Selector is not in Dapper Drake version of Ubuntu which I use at home)
[07:20] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: tell me when its done
[07:20] <LadyVix> Warbo: Several months ago I installed Ubuntu and sound worked.... but it doesnt now...
[07:20] <chiwawa_42> why the hell did I get a ban on #ubuntu+1?
[07:20] <bert__> Madpilot: Actually it was Gold, As you said up there.
[07:20] <majd> Hi, i find that java uses a rediculous amount of memory...is this just my computer/java/or my installation?
[07:20] <cowlikk> is there GUI program to access network
[07:20] <Warbo> LadyVix: Same version?
[07:20] <chiwawa_42> could anyone check and remove the ban plz?
[07:20] <nickgarvey> chiwawa_42: probably because you did something stupid..
[07:21] <gpd> intelikey: worked it out... i am booted into an old kernel due to /boot being on my Breezy partition and having to update manually :)
[07:21] <Warbo> LadyVix: Did you have the Phillips card plugged in?
[07:21] <chiwawa_42> nickgarvey, certainly not
[07:21] <Madpilot> chiwawa_42, ban on who, for what?
[07:21] <bert__> Madpilot: Yes, I am lost, I am trying to get Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, on my computer, But it's mostly for Windows, well I found a Linux version, downloaded it, it was a .RUN, File... so I installed it, but it failed the install..
[07:21] <LadyVix> Warbo: no...its one i downloaded and burned to a cd it wasnt Hoary Hedgehog... was the one after it
[07:21] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, ban on me, no reason at all
[07:21] <Toma-> bert__: how did it fail?
[07:21] <Madpilot> bert__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[07:21] <bert__> Madpilot: so now I am searching for a Debian based Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, or at LEAST, a game related to FPS of that sort, taht will work on my Nixbox
[07:21] <Warbo> LadyVix: Well that might be the problem. Do you mind upgrading?
 hupp3l gksudo nautilus       and browse there.
[07:21] <LadyVix> Warbo: of course the philips card is plugged  in.... the speakers are plugged into the MB...
[07:21] <hupp3l> what is that?
[07:21] <Madpilot> chiwawa_42, here? unlikely to be "for no reason at all"...
[07:21] <mimm> hi, is there some way to get a kblayout switch key to the toolbar in fluxbox?
[07:22] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, on #ubuntu+1
[07:22] <eneried> then... nobody knows where to find universe or multiverse for offline use? maybe jigdo, torrent, DVD iso or something...
[07:22] <LadyVix> Warbo: I'm not sure I have the patience to download again... how long that take?
[07:22] <Warbo> LadyVix: I meant WERE they plugged in BEFORE (so AC 97 was used instead)
[07:22] <Phlosten> chiwawa_42, the ban probably isnt on your specifically, might be on a hostname that resembles yours?
[07:22] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, my last chat there was about network manager
[07:22] <paloyme> what do i use to open a .bin file?
[07:22] <ubuntu_> hello
[07:22] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: done
[07:22] <nickgarvey> eneried: you want to download the entire repositories?
[07:22] <Madpilot> chiwawa_42, sorry, I don't have ops for #ubuntu+1, afaik...
[07:22] <chiwawa_42> Phlosten, i hope so, but it's still anoying
[07:22] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: make && make install
[07:22] <intelikey> paloyme sh
[07:22] <ubuntu_> alguienhaba es apol
[07:22] <LadyVix> Warbo: no... had no other card at the time ... that was the only reason onboard was enabled anyway
[07:22] <intelikey> paloyme sh file.bin
[07:22] <eneried> nickgarvey, yes, we want to have them for offline use
[07:22] <Warbo> LadyVix: If you have simple install not long at all. Go in terminal as root (or even better use sudo) and do nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:22] <paloyme> thanks
[07:23] <chiwawa_42> Phlosten, i'm looking forward to give some feedbaclk about the new artwork on dapper
[07:23] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: make: command not found
[07:23] <paloyme> do you know any shortcut keys to open terminal?
[07:23] <Madpilot> chiwawa_42, actually, I do have ops there - just a minute
[07:23] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: bah ok
[07:23] <LadyVix> lol how do I get from root to user and i've never used Sudo so i dont know how
[07:23] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: apt-get install build-essential
[07:23] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, thanks
[07:23] <ubuntu_> alguien habla espaol
[07:23] <nickgarvey> !es
[07:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:23] <bert__> Madpilot: Without hesitation, You just solved my problem, it failed at the libgtkl.2 and now I can get that and try it again.
[07:23] <eneried> ubuntu_, try joining to #ubuntu-es chanel, and... yo hablo espaol :)
[07:23] <intelikey> paloyme that is wm specific and can be altered   so, no.
[07:23] <kaha> Holy carp, I just figured out that Rhythmbox is *excellent*.
[07:23] <Warbo> LadyVix: If you are root then use that. Type "nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:24] <bur[n] er> to all you comcast users out there, are you noticing crazy speed issues and connectivity problems?
[07:24] <Warbo> kaha: Haven't tried it for a while. Can it match Amarok yet?
[07:24] <bur[n] er> amarok > all... still
[07:24] <Warbo> bur[n] er: lol
[07:24] <LadyVix> Warbo: now what?
[07:24] <kaha> Warbo: dunno, haven't tried Amarok in quite awhile.
[07:25] <Madpilot> chiwawa_42, I can't see any ban in place at #ubuntu+1 that would keep you out - try again
[07:25] <eneried> nickgarvey: do you know where to download or get the entire repositories?
[07:25] <Warbo> LadyVix: Look for anything which says "hoary" and replace with "breezy"
[07:25] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, * Impossible de rejoindre #ubuntu+1 (Vous tes banni).
[07:25] <nickgarvey> eneried: that's a lot of stuff... I'd try the forums...
[07:25] <paloyme> intelikey: whats wm?
[07:25] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: done
[07:25] <Warbo> paloyme: window manager (metacity in GNOME)
[07:25] <bur[n] er> wm == window manager... for example... metacity, kwin, xfwm, fluxbox, etc.
[07:26] <intelikey> paloyme your wm (window manager) is probably gnome
[07:26] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: make uninstall
[07:26] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, anything on abo.wanadoo.fr ?
[07:26] <intelikey> or metacity    more specifically
[07:26] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, many lusers on this ISP...
[07:26] <Madpilot> chiwawa_42, nope, not on +1
[07:26] <nickgarvey> can you string commands, like "command && command2 && command3"? or will it only work with 2?
[07:26] <Warbo> LadyVix: If you are very adventurous (and you want firefox 1.5) then you MAY want to go for Dapper Drake. It seems stable, but still isn't finalised. Would save two upgrades
[07:26] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, well, i still can't join anyhow
[07:26] <intelikey> bur[n] er   :p
[07:27] <nickgarvey> Warbo: hoary to dapper isn't support I don't think
[07:27] <Madpilot> nickgarvey, you can go at least three with && - I've never tried deeper, but I suspect you could keep going...
[07:27] <eneried> we had the breezy universe and multiverse, because we're about to sell some computers with ubuntu installed, Now, we want to be ready for dapper :D
[07:27] <Warbo> nickgarvey: OK, thanks
[07:27] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: not all installed files are removed, run uninstall as many times as necessary until no removing messages appear...
[07:27] <LadyVix> Warbo: ok... how long of a download tho...
[07:27] <bert__> Madpilot: Ok, Thank you for your help, I think I figured it out, I'md ownloading it from that website there, and I installed the package already, and that's where it stopped last time, so we will see what happens :)
[07:27] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: no you are good
[07:27] <bert__> Madpilot: I will update you, as it happens.
[07:27] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: make && make install
[07:27] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: ok
[07:27] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, thanks for trying anyway, i hope it'll be dropped soon
[07:27] <Warbo> LadyVix: On 1Mb broadband maybe 1/2 hour? I'm not sure. Porbably less
[07:27] <tritium> chiwawa_42: there are no bans set that would prevent you from joining
[07:27] <Madpilot> chiwawa_42, yeah, the banlist for +1 is very short, and there's nothing I can see that would keep you out
[07:27] <majd> what's Xorg?
[07:28] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: error 2
[07:28] <Warbo> LadyVix: Once you have changed them press ctrl-x then "y" for yes and enter for filename
[07:28] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: damn paste it in the pastebin
[07:28] <intelikey> http://X.org
[07:28] <LadyVix> so change everything that i woulda have changed to breezy to Dapper Drake?
[07:28] <King-of-no-pants> cant
[07:28] <chiwawa_42> tritium, Madpilot who's the main OP on ubuntu+1?
[07:28] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: im on a different comp
[07:28] <FlannelKing> eneried: you can go through the process of mirroring, and then you'll have them locally, whether or not you mirror publically.
[07:28] <Warbo> LadyVix: apparently not. Just go with breezy
[07:28] <LadyVix> *shrugs* okies
[07:28] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: isnt there a way to override bans?
[07:28] <nickgarvey> LadyVix: I suggest you go to breezy then go to dapper
[07:29] <Warbo> nickgarvey: Yes
[07:29] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: I don't understand
[07:29] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, no idea - but like I said, the banlist at +1 is very short - only six or seven entries
[07:29] <chiwawa_42> Hobbsee, there is no legal (in the netiquette sense) way to do so
[07:29] <eneried> mirroring, ummm, it sounds good :)
[07:29] <tritium> chiwawa_42: there are a few of us
[07:29] <King-Of-Pants> alright
[07:29] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: well that's what i thought
[07:29] <King-Of-Pants> nickgarvey: where is the pastebin?
[07:29] <eneried> do you know where is the mirroring process described?
[07:29] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[07:29] <kaha> LadyVix: it's worth it. Dapper rocks.
[07:29] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:30] <beruic> Sometimes when I boot, my harddisk is checked for errors. Is there a way to see the log for this or to force it to do it again?
[07:30] <chiwawa_42> tritium, i'll try again when I'll move this afternoon, we have another ISP in our secondary office ;)
[07:30] <padre_scl> hola
[07:30] <nickgarvey> beruic: man fsck
[07:30] <LadyVix> kaha: maybe ...
[07:30] <nickgarvey> !es
[07:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:30] <blindx> anyone in here by the name of Luis Otavio?
[07:30] <LadyVix> Warbo: i've changed the word... now what?
[07:30] <beruic> nickgarvey: thx :)
[07:30] <intelikey> Q: upgrading  can you skip a version ?   i.e. 5.4 to 6.6 ?
[07:30] <chiwawa_42> blindx, avoid real names on IRC ;)
[07:31] <nickgarvey> intelikey: someone smarter than me said no
[07:31] <Warbo> LadyVix: OK, ctrl-x will exit. Press y to save changes and enter to keep filename
[07:31] <_jason> intelikey: safer not to
[07:31] <noaXess> can somebody check my xorg.conf http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/670751 , i want install dapper drake 6 fl6 on my asus notebook w1v, x starts but the monitor doesn't come up
[07:31] <nickgarvey> intelikey: I don't remember who, but someone that was smart said it heh
[07:31] <intelikey> :)
[07:31] <bert__> Madpilot: So far, So good, 17% Downloaded.
[07:31] <blindx> I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )
[07:31] <Madpilot> bert__, it's a massive download, but a cool game
[07:31] <King-Of-Pants> pasted
[07:32] <bert__> Madpilot: Got to love having a 200Kbps/Second Download Speed.. :)
[07:32] <FlannelKing> eneried: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarlGoetz/DebmirrorHowto describes it a little
[07:32] <FlannelKing> !mirror
[07:32] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: its binned
[07:32] <ubotu> mirror is, like, repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[07:32] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: link me
[07:32] <bert__> Madpilot: Very much indeed, I usually play it among all the other 15 Games I own, on Windows, But I love Linux more, so I wanted at least 1 awesome game to play on here.. and I knew it was possible, know of any other FPS's for Linux.. that I could get?
[07:32] <intelikey> well i think i may try it.   i have this box so tweeked out,  and i haven't reloaded in.... crap it's been over a week now..... i need to reformat, i might forget how.
[07:32] <King-Of-Pants> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12583
[07:32] <paloyme> how can i view internet explorer specific websites with firefox?
[07:32] <FlannelKing> eneried: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive there you go ;)
[07:32] <Madpilot> bert__, Americas Army
[07:32] <LadyVix> Warbo: how do I start the download now?
[07:32] <Warbo> paloyme: Complain to webmasters
[07:33] <FlannelKing> paloyme: get the user agent switcher extension
[07:33] <Madpilot> bert__, the ID FPSs run on Linux too
[07:33] <eneried> FlannelKing, thanks a lot
[07:33] <eneried> ;)
[07:33] <Warbo> LadyVix: "apt-get update" then "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[07:33] <bert__> Madpilot: I heard that wasn't that great of a game, you have any recommendations from experience?
[07:33] <Warbo> LadyVix: Then wait
[07:33] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: get it?
[07:33] <paloyme> flannelking thats the exact name? "user agent switcher"?
[07:33] <FlannelKing> paloyme: believe so
[07:33] <intelikey> Warbo both as root of course
[07:33] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: yes, let me look into it
[07:33] <eneried> i've to go now, too late for me to stay asleep :)
[07:33] <Madpilot> bert__, Americas Army? Haven't ever tried it; the screenshots look nice, but that's all I know...
[07:33] <eneried> thanks guys
[07:33] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey:  k
[07:33] <eneried> bye
[07:34] <bert__> Madpilot: Hmm, Ok, I might check it out, if I get interested and bored of WolfET, which is doubted, I own.. :)
[07:34] <Warbo> intelikey: For some reason Terminal asked for password (is this from Hoary, I never used it)
[07:34] <LadyVix> Warbo: Updating....
[07:34] <noaXess> org
[07:34] <noaXess> !xorg
[07:34] <ubotu> hmm... xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[07:34] <bert__> Madpilot: Thanks for your help I will discontnue bothering you, Until I have another problem<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if you would like to talk otherwise, Thanks again.
[07:34] <Warbo> LadyVix: Well, because it isn't windows you can still do what you want while it's going
[07:34] <sneex> to get onto the deve mirror all I need to change is breezy to dapper ?
[07:35] <intelikey> Warbo you lost me there ?    is what form hoary ?
[07:35] <padre_scl> how i can configuate evolution to recive hotmail
[07:35] <kaha> Warbo: careful, that little factoid freaks ppl out.
[07:35] <LadyVix> Warbo: its 41ish minutes...
[07:35] <Warbo> intelikey: Her (I'm assuming) terminal asked for password (gksudo), and became root. Is this because it is hoary?
[07:36] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: could you paste bin the following?  "more /proc/version" and "gcc --version"
[07:36] <intelikey> Warbo no.  gksudo will ask for the user passwd
[07:36] <Warbo> kaha: Well, I wouldn't recommend Quake4. (While it's downloading maybe, but not installing. Too slow)
[07:36] <LadyVix> Intelikey: I figured out what happened there for the root terminal thing... thats what i clicked... which is why it asked me for password
[07:36] <intelikey> Warbo ^ there you go.
[07:37] <LadyVix> Was accident they right next to each other on menu
[07:37] <Warbo> intelikey: But will a default Hoary install ask for password when you click on terminal? (or is there a Root Terminal option in menu?)
[07:37] <Warbo> Ah, thought so
[07:37] <kaha> Warbo: I usually do mahjongg
[07:37] <LadyVix> Warbo: *shrugs*
[07:37] <intelikey> no  not  terminal....   it will for  root terminal
[07:37] <King-Of-Pants> nickgarvey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12585
[07:37] <Warbo> kaha: Freecell (I prefer kpat)
[07:38] <noaXess> !aticonfig
[07:38] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noaXess
[07:39] <LadyVix> Warbo: how do i change GUI? this is just curiosity talking...
[07:39] <intelikey> well really it don't make any sense for me to upgrade though....   every thing works correctly here.
[07:39] <FlannelKing> LadyVix: like, installing KDE instead of gnome?
[07:39] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: that's why.. and that's not good
[07:39] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: poo
[07:39] <Warbo> LadyVix: To change theme go in Preferences. To use a completely different environment get KDE
[07:39] <LadyVix> FlannelKing: yes i saw pictures of KDE... looks more like the interface i'm used to
[07:39] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: what did I do?
[07:40] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: not you..
[07:40] <paloyme> can totem play wmv?
[07:40] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: what happened?
[07:40] <LadyVix> Warbo: that requires loging out then back in right?
[07:40] <Warbo> LadyVix: KDE can have a few cool effects, but very different to GNOME which I prefer
[07:40] <Warbo> LadyVix: Yes
[07:40] <nickgarvey> King-Of-Pants: "apt-get install linux-source$(uname -r)"
[07:40] <intelikey> LadyVix that would be   sudo apt-get install kdebase      or   kubuntu-desktop if you want all the kde apps
[07:40] <LadyVix> Warbo: would that interfere with the download?
[07:40] <Warbo> LadyVix: Although you could log in twice (keep your GNOME and open a KDE)
[07:41] <noaXess> in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-42bafbcee7a10ed50f2d9016555557b9874be252 there is the aticonfig tool.. but where to get this?
[07:41] <Warbo> LadyVix: Don't Log Out
[07:41] <paloyme> can totem play wmv files?
[07:41] <LadyVix> Warbo: i'm confused again...
[07:41] <Warbo> LadyVix: Also, you are using apt to download the updates. You should also use apt to get kde, and only 1 can be run at a time (to prevent conflicting situations)
[07:41] <Warbo> paloyme: If they are unencrypted
[07:42] <Warbo> paloyme: And WMV9 or lower
[07:42] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: do i need to download a more up to date release of ubuntu, reinstall, and try again?
[07:42] <chiwawa_42> christel, here?
[07:42] <LadyVix> nickgarvey: sorry
[07:42] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: do what I said
[07:42] <nickgarvey> King-Of-Pants: "apt-get install linux-source$(uname -r)"
[07:42] <intelikey> !tell paloyme about codecs
[07:42] <King-of-no-pants> oh, i didnt see that one
[07:43] <SD> ok can anyone please help me with connecting to a smb share from the commandline? I've followed the instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:43] <LadyVix> Warbo: okies
[07:43] <SD> ... and i get this error: 23662: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[07:43] <SD> SMB connection failed
[07:43] <SD> ...with $sudo mount -a
[07:43] <Warbo> LadyVix: Remember: Do everything with apt (Synaptic in Sys>Admin is a front-end to apt)
[07:43] <paloyme> !easysource
[07:43] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:43] <SD> i can connect successfully with Gnome
[07:44] <LadyVix> Warbo: how would someone install a game? the game i usually play in windows has a linux client
[07:44] <Warbo> LadyVix: You are on about NWN right?
[07:44] <mrkoje_> hello
[07:44] <FlannelKing> LadyVix: which game?
[07:44] <LadyVix> Warbo: yes Neverwinter Nights
[07:44] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: E: couldnt find package linux source <IP_ADDRESS> - 386
[07:45] <Warbo> LadyVix: Do you know if you need to buy the Linux one if you already have the Windows one?
[07:45] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[07:45] <LadyVix> Warbo: the linux one you download I can give you the URL if you want. but you need to purchase the Windows CD's for the CDkeys to install and to get the rest of the binaries
[07:46] <FlannelKing> Warbo: usually not.  or at least, from what Ive heard
[07:46] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: now were talkin!
[07:47] <intelikey> i really hope i didn't need getty for anything special....
[07:47] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  rm /sbin/getty
[07:47] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  sync
[07:48] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: alright
[07:48] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: done with that
[07:48] <Warbo> LadyVix: That's good of them. Anyway "Installing" usually just means copying stuff to the standard Linux directories (which, come to think of it, is the opposite of Windows which keeps them all together) so you should be able to get the binary and run it from where it is. To make a "command" for it you probably just have to make a link to it in /usr/bin
[07:48] <Kassah> Is there a way to get Title, Auther, Etc listed for Audio files in Nautalis?
[07:48] <LadyVix> Warbo: go here... this is my last URL....    www.nwvault.ign.com
[07:48] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: installed?
[07:49] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: yeah
[07:49] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: make && make install
[07:49] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: error 2
[07:49] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: (twitch)
[07:49] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: sure we dont want uninstall?
[07:49] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: yes.. its not even getting to the second part
[07:50] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[07:50] <Warbo> LadyVix: I've got Gish which says it should be run from inside it's own folder (ie. not split into the standard directories) and I've made a really simple script to run it (cd /directory; ./gish)
[07:50] <LadyVix> ick!
[07:50] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: wait no stop
[07:50] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: too late!
[07:50] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: apt-get install gcc-3.4
[07:50] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: heh let it go then
[07:50] <nickgarvey> not a probelm
[07:50] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: well, it didnt take
[07:50] <LadyVix> i'm having Processor spikes
[07:50] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: it said permission denied
[07:50] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: did it work?
[07:51] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: dont think so
[07:51] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: run sudo in front
[07:51] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: I thought you were logged in as root
[07:51] <LadyVix> Warbo: i hate that... i keep thinking its going to lock up again
[07:51] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: now im goin on the gcc 3.4
[07:52] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: im just sudo'ing everything
[07:52] <Warbo> LadyVix: You want to be using 100% if possible (why waste your processor?) and actually installing takes loads of resources
[07:52] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ok, let it go
[07:52] <King-of-no-pants> ok
[07:52] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: tell me when you got it
[07:52] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i have gcc
[07:52] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: and im root
[07:52] <LadyVix> Warbo: i have the processor monitor on top and it looks like an EEG machine
[07:52] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: do the other one again?
[07:53] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: make && make install
[07:53] <intelikey> Warbo hmmmm installing = cpu eater ?     i didn't know that.   i knew compiling was.
[07:53] <cens0red> this is weird.
[07:53] <Madpilot> LadyNikon, Gnome is pretty good at not actually locking up, even when something is working hard
[07:53] <Warbo> LadyVix: Leave it going, it's fine (but now you may get my previous comments that you don't want to berunning Quake 4 while it's installing)
[07:53] <Kassah> is there a linux app that I can change the tags on a file at the same time I can change their file name?
[07:53] <LadyVix> i only have a 1.? ghz processor...
[07:53] <Warbo> intelikey: I've found that it is. the downloading is fine
[07:53] <seraph> good afternoon all
[07:54] <LadyVix> my screen just went white you'll have to repeat that...
[07:54] <nickgarvey> ha its 2 am here
[07:54] <Warbo> (No, I never use Gentoo if that's what you're going to say)
[07:54] <nickgarvey> not afternoon for me ;)
[07:54] <seraph> I just upgraded my fresh install of breezy badger
[07:54] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: same here
[07:54] <seraph> and now it won't boot
[07:54] <seraph> no matter what kernel I use, I get an error after the pre-mount script
[07:54] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: is it working?
[07:54] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: yeah
[07:54] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: good
[07:54] <seraph> at the top-local or local-top (I forget which)
[07:54] <seraph> I get a circular dependency
[07:54] <LadyVix> arg.. i'm reloading Xchat
[07:54] <seraph> then the kernel SEGFAULTS
[07:54] <seraph> anyone know how to fix this?
[07:55] <seraph> I was thinking of removing the new kernel and installing a slightly older one
[07:55] <lgc> Hello: Can anyone help me? My keyboard doesn't work and I can't login to Breezy (I just made the upgrade)!
[07:55] <LadyVix> Pardon but thats getting a Hair annoying
[07:55] <nickgarvey> what is LadyVix?
[07:56] <cens0red> can't figure out why my linux system is still working. I have a linux system, with lots of critical stuff compiled for a celeron 1.1Ghz, on a p3 board. But I've just upgraded mainboard + CPU + RAM + Ethernet card and everything still works.
[07:56] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: done?
[07:56] <da3rX|Work> lol
[07:56] <nickgarvey> cens0red: lucky..
[07:56] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: not yet, this is a 400 mhz processor...
[07:56] <da3rX|Work> isnt it good that its working lol
[07:56] <romulo> hello, what is the default kernel shipped in dapper flight6?
[07:56] <Warbo> lgc: Can you get into a terminal (maybe rebooting into recover) and reconfiguringit there?
[07:56] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: oh haha ok, mine was done almost instantly so I wasn't sure how long yours would take
[07:56] <da3rX|Work> if its working, why bother :p
[07:56] <LadyVix> my screen goes completely white... if i pass my mouse over the screen hyperlinks appear... but then all text dissapears then i close the client and restart it
[07:56] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: you are doing it, too?
[07:56] <CNAP> romulo: Linux client 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Sat Mar 11 16:13:17 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:57] <Warbo> LadyVix: You mean XChat?
[07:57] <LadyVix> yes
[07:57] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: alright, its done
[07:57] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: nope, did it Monday though, which is why I am such an expert ;)
[07:57] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: cool
[07:57] <Warbo> LadyVix: What did I tell you about XChat...
[07:57] <romulo> CNAP, hmm 2.6.12? thats old.
[07:57] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: cd to the directory with your driver
[07:57] <intelikey> King-Of-Pants quit bragging about your cup....   mine's 100 mhz
[07:57] <CNAP> romulo, that's the build...
[07:57] <lgc> Warbo: I can login to a tty, but as soon as I get into the graphical session I lose the keyboard functionality (except for spaces and arrows).
[07:57] <LadyVix> my processor still looks like an eeg machine
[07:57] <romulo> CNAP, its latest dapper?
[07:57] <King-of-no-pants> alright
[07:57] <CNAP> flight 6
[07:57] <LadyVix> and my screen just went white again...
[07:58] <Warbo> lcg: Well to reconfigure X you type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:58] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: im there
[07:58] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ndiswrapper -I drivername.inf #(replace driver name with your drivers name)
[07:58] <romulo> hmm it should be shipping 2.6.16...no?
[07:58] <emile> romulo: flight 6 _with_ all updates gives me 2.6.15-20
[07:58] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: lowercase "i"
[07:58] <romulo> emile, hmm -_-
[07:58] <romulo> that sux
[07:58] <Warbo> LadyVix: Leave it to install. Turn off the monitor if it's annoying (I have one on my desktop and one in my panel)
[07:58] <LadyVix> 19 minutes ish
[07:59] <romulo> that means i will have to recompile my own kernel.
[07:59] <LadyVix> repeat that?
[07:59] <Warbo> LadyVix: I mean system monitor, but either would do
[07:59] <romulo> again
[07:59] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: mrv8000 is already installed, looks like I beat you too it
[07:59] <Warbo> LadyVix: Leave it to install
[07:59] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ndiswrapper -e mrw8000 then
[07:59] <lgc> Warbo: Do you know what to tweak in this case?
[07:59] <romulo> im wondering why 2.6.16 is on debian-amd64 and not in ubuntu, since ubuntu updates fastly
[07:59] <romulo> =P
[07:59] <LadyVix> *shakes head* ok by then... i'm headed to bed its 1am
[08:00] <Warbo> lgc: It would be the keyboard (well, duh) but I don't know what setup you have so I don't know what to give it
[08:00] <LadyVix> Warbo: thanks for the help... I'll be back later today..../ tonight
[08:00] <bert__> Madpilot: You still there?
[08:00] <Warbo> LadyVix: If I'm gone for a while I'm cycling home
[08:00] <CNAP> romulo, you're right. it's almost a year old
[08:00] <Madpilot> bert__, kind of
[08:00] <seraph> well
[08:00] <LadyVix> i didnt catch that it dissapeared before I could read it
[08:00] <seraph> so no one has any ideas?
[08:01] <Warbo> LadyVix: I should be in here later, if not then I'm cycling home (maybe 45 mins)
[08:01] <bert__> Madpilot: Ok, Great, It installed fine, THanks!!... But the problem now, is I need to do this.. for the maps... "sudo chown -R user:user ~/.etwolf/ and it says, No such file or directory...(yes I put in my User and User Group)
[08:01] <romulo> CNAP, the module for my network card is only present in 2.6.16
[08:01] <romulo> so i will have to compile it by hand like i said.
[08:01] <CNAP> romulo, no apt-get upgrade or anything like that huh?
[08:01] <LadyVix> if i cant sleep i'll probably be back 6-8am CST
[08:01] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: and "modprobe -r mrw8000" and also "rmmod ndiswrapper"
[08:01] <romulo> CNAP, well not using dapper yet.
[08:02] <Madpilot> bert__, you might have to run ET once, to get that directory created
[08:02] <romulo> CNAP, im on debian-amd64 and using 2.6.16 so its here, on 2.6.15 it wasnt working.
[08:02] <Madpilot> bert__, but it's been a while since I installed ET...
[08:02] <bert__> Madpilot: Alright, I will try that.. Thanks.
[08:02] <luisito> I have a friend that is new to linux, I'm new too but I know much more things than him and know much more how the system works. I tell him not to use Automatix because it isn't recommended, it isn't good for the system. But when he ask me why I don't know how to convince him? What should I say to him to understand?
[08:02] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 143
[08:02] <Warbo> romulo: Sure it would not be easier to only recompile the driver? (or am I in way over my head?)
[08:02] <Madpilot> bert__, just run it, then quit, you won't be able to do much until you complete that last set of setup
[08:02] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: you didn't do the command I said too..
[08:02] <romulo> Warbo, i dont know...seens i couldnt get it compiled with headers
[08:02] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i thought i did
[08:02] <romulo> didnt tried with source + working kernel.
[08:02] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: rmmod ndiswrapper
[08:03] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: then modprobe -r (drivername without the .inf)
[08:03] <lgc> Madpilot, are you familiar with resuscitating dead keyboards?
[08:03] <King-of-no-pants> module ndiswrapper does not exist in /proc/modules
[08:03] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: then ndiswrapper -e (drivername witout the inf)
[08:03] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: good, next
[08:03] <Warbo> luisito: Make up something complicated, tell him it will break it and by the time he's learnt that you were making it up he knows enough about Linux to not install it :)
[08:03] <bert__> Madpilot: Ok, Now I have to figure out how the Hell to run it... :|
[08:03] <Seveas> @reload exploitban
[08:03] <CNAP> what happens when i do an apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15 ?
[08:03] <romulo> hmm thinking of importing 2.6.16 deb from debian
[08:03] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: ok, I removed the driver
[08:04] <romulo> might be agood idea
[08:04] <Madpilot> bert__, it should be at Applications->Other->ET in Gnome's terminals
[08:04] <Warbo> romulo: might not...
[08:04] <nickgarvey> CNAP: I bet it fails?
[08:04] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ok now
[08:04] <bert__> Madpilot: I don't have an "Other" category.
[08:04] <romulo> Warbo, hmm why not
[08:04] <CNAP> nickgarvey: what fails?
[08:04] <nickgarvey> sudo ndiswrapper -i (driver.inf)
[08:04] <Warbo> romulo: Dunno, just might not
[08:04] <luisito> Warbo, the thing is, he have it installed.
[08:04] <nickgarvey> CNAP: you trying to apt-get, its not in the repos
[08:04] <Madpilot> bert__, then in the termial, just type 'et' w/o the quotes
[08:04] <romulo> Warbo, i have imported ubuntu kernels on debian before
[08:04] <romulo> and it worked like a charm
[08:04] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 143
[08:04] <bert__> Madpilot: Did that.. doesn't do anything but say no such directory or something
[08:05] <CNAP> nickgarvey: what's not in repos? linux-source-2.6.15 ?
[08:05] <bert__> Madpilot: Command not found, rather.
[08:05] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: should I be root@ubuntu?
[08:05] <Warbo> luisito: I think the damage has been done. Doesn't it change stuff irreversibly (for apt I mean, not manually)
[08:05] <OrTigaS> hi
[08:05] <Madpilot> bert__, try 'enemy-territory' to start it
[08:05] <nickgarvey> CNAP: yeah, I am pretty sure it sn't
[08:05] <OrTigaS> hows the channel
[08:05] <OrTigaS> can i ask
[08:05] <bert__> Madpilot: Command not found.
[08:05] <Madpilot> bert__, hmm, that should work - it's what works for me
[08:06] <CNAP> nickgarvey, no it's there. i just downloaded it. i wanted to know what's going to happen once i do it. will it upgrade my kernel?
[08:06] <bert__> Madpilot: Hmm..
[08:06] <intelikey> OrTigaS   fast and active.
[08:06] <Madpilot> King-of-no-pants, use sudo before commands, no need for root
[08:06] <OrTigaS> how can i disable the "PadLock" on start and after the Login?
[08:06] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i was doing that for a while, then just su'd myself...
[08:06] <bert__> Madpilot: Woops...I suppose it might help to actually install the game instead of just download it and leave it?
[08:06] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: does it matter?
[08:06] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ok do it then
[08:06] <nalioth> lgc: did the 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" not work?
[08:07] <romulo> can i use a amd64 kernel to run with 32bits binaries?
[08:07] <Madpilot> bert__, um... yeah... :P
[08:07] <nickgarvey> CNAP: oh it is? I don't see it.. oh well, and no I doubt it, thats only the sources
[08:07] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 143
[08:07] <Warbo> romulo: OK, so Debian wasn't dodgy enough?
[08:07] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: as long as it doesn't say that
[08:07] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: go into a root shell instead
[08:07] <Madpilot> bert__, "sudo chmod +x et-linux-2.60.x86.run" first
[08:07] <CNAP> nickgarvey, yeah you're right it does nothing but download the source
[08:07] <CNAP> nickgarvey, waste of 44mb
[08:07] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: what do you mean by that?
[08:07] <luisito> Warbo, I have seen really weird thing like, when choosing the keyboard language the USA works like Latinamerican and vice-versa.
[08:07] <bert__> Madpilot: Woops.. Kinda late :/
[08:08] <romulo> Warbo, yeah, that time i was missing stuff that was on ubuntu
[08:08] <romulo> like now
[08:08] <nickgarvey> intelikey: mm but I had that happen too, sudo didn't do I needed a root shell it seemed
[08:08] <Madpilot> intelikey, "no need to go to root@boxname" is what I meant... :P
[08:08] <OrTigaS> how can i disable the "PadLock" on Start-Up and after the Login?
[08:08] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: su
[08:08] <nalioth> nickgarvey: why?
[08:08] <Warbo> luisito: What I was saying was that if you want to put it back to normal you have to change it back yourself, getting rid of Automatix won't do it
[08:08] <nickgarvey> nalioth: good question
[08:08] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: ok
[08:08] <nalioth> King-of-no-pants: dont do it
[08:08] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: too late
[08:08] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i did that a while ago
[08:08] <Warbo> luisito: Anyway, if you use a USA keyboard the " and @ are in the wrong place :)
[08:09] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i dont usually do it
[08:09] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i usually sudo
[08:09] <Madpilot> bert__, well, if it's installing, then you didn't need the command I gave you, anyway
[08:09] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: but right now im su'd
[08:09] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: oh, thats the problem then, get out of that and use sudo
[08:09] <bert__> Madpilot: It's not, Same error I got last time.. Hmm
[08:09] <lgc> nalioth: sorry for the delay. I didn't know that. Let me see...
[08:09] <nickgarvey> I remembered one worked and one didn't
[08:09] <CNAP> romulo, how are you recompiling it? i've never actually have successfully recompiled a kernel
[08:09] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: do i have to close and reopen terminal?
[08:09] <bert__> Madpilot: Nevermind, There it goes.
[08:09] <intelikey> Warbo qwerty  ?
[08:09] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: no just type exit
[08:09] <nalioth> King-of-no-pants: su YOUR_USER_NAME
[08:10] <romulo> CNAP, ive recompiled it many times, doing make-kpkg --revision=something.0.1 kernel-image or linux-image
[08:10] <nickgarvey> that works too
[08:10] <OrTigaS> where can change/put IP address if i connect to other machine with own IP add?
[08:10] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 143
[08:11] <nalioth> King-of-no-pants: is the file complete and not damaged?
[08:11] <Warbo> intelikey: Sorry, just that so many LiveCDs use US keyboard I have got to know it's layout (on my UK keyboard). The most annoying is terminals, but next annoying is email"domain.com (@ and " are swapped)
[08:11] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: that was with sudo and not su?
[08:11] <romulo> OrTigaS, ip for your local interfaces?
[08:11] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: sudo
[08:11] <nalioth> King-of-no-pants: sudo won't work if the file integrity is broken
[08:11] <romulo> OrTigaS, sudo ifconfig ethX ip
[08:11] <OrTigaS> romulo yes
[08:11] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: damn, I had the same problem and I thought thats how I fixed it but I don't remember...
[08:11] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: it should be a good file, i downloaded it today
[08:11] <luisito> Warbo, yeah, but his keyboard is spanish, when he uses the latinamerican layout it uses the USA layout and when he uses the USA layout then the Latinamerican is the layout, it is a really weird thing.
[08:12] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: do you have your driver off your windows installation maybe?
[08:12] <OrTigaS> like if i have machine that has IP and i want it to connect thru internet or by direct connect by LAN cable
[08:12] <Warbo> luisito: Is this graphically (KDE or GNOME) or Xorg itself, or even terminals?
[08:12] <bert__> Madpilot: Next Error:... You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!
[08:12] <bert__>  Driver DLL used: libGL.so.1
[08:12] <bert__>  If this is intentional, add
[08:12] <bert__>        "+set r_allowSoftwareGL 1"
[08:12] <bert__>  to the command line when starting the game.
[08:12] <nickgarvey> !tell bert__ about paste
[08:12] <bert__> Sorry for the flood!
[08:12] <nickgarvey> :)
[08:12] <Warbo> bert: sounds like you need binary driver
[08:12] <bert__> Unintentional.
[08:12] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: no...
[08:12] <nalioth> bert__: please use a pastebin in the future
[08:12] <bert__> I will, My appologies.
[08:12] <Madpilot> bert__, no 3d drivers, it sounds like - ATI or Nvidia graphics card?
[08:12] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i dont use that card in any of my windows machines,
[08:12] <romulo> OrTigaS, can u be more direct?
[08:12] <bert__> Madpilot: AT
[08:12] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: crap.. what is the name of your wireless card?
[08:12] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i know thats the right driver
[08:13] <bert__> Madpilot ATI*
[08:13] <intelikey>  /etc/hosts   OrTigaS  ?    or /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[08:13] <Madpilot> !tell bert__ about ati
[08:13] <bert__> Madpilot: 9800 Pro to be Exact.
[08:13] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: re download it then
[08:13] <King-of-no-pants> will do
[08:13] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: or tell me where you got it so I can try
[08:13] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: or both heh
[08:13] <CNAP> romulo: there's a .deb file for the kernel?
[08:13] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: www.airnetusa.com
[08:13] <romulo> CNAP, for the one im using on amd64 now, there is
[08:14] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: AWD154
[08:14] <romulo> so i copied it and tomorrow when installing dapper, will use it
[08:14] <romulo> :D
[08:14] <OrTigaS> romulo, like this we have a machine/box here that we access by Internet or by Direct Cable thru rj45 but that box has a IP add.. where can i change my IP to access that box?
[08:14] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: PCMCIA?
[08:14] <Madpilot> bert__, got the pm from the bot?
[08:14] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: pci
[08:14] <CNAP> romula, where'd you find it? www.debian.org i assume?
[08:14] <bert__> Madpilot: Yes, following instructions now.
[08:15] <romulo> OrTigaS, why you wanna change the ip to access the box? subnet?
[08:15] <OrTigaS> in windows we do like "Networking--> Properties-->
[08:15] <intelikey> romulo is that kernel compiled against the same glibc  as dapper ?
[08:15] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: bah worked fine for me
[08:15] <romulo> OrTigaS, to change your ip type sudo ifconfig ethX xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where ethX is your interface
[08:15] <nickgarvey> Installing net5211
[08:15] <romulo> intelikey, probably, no.
[08:15] <romulo> oh wait
[08:15] <romulo> glibc, yes...probably
[08:15] <romulo> =P
[08:15] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: net5211         driver installed
[08:15] <romulo> dapper is on 4?
[08:16] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: ?
[08:16] <OrTigaS> can do it by not in Terminal, because probaly i'm not the one gonna use it, i just want to know so i can tell
[08:16] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: worked fine for me
[08:16] <caonex> I have installed successfully ubuntu before on my hp pavilion zv6000. However, I have performed about 4 clean installs and I am unable to get X going, any ideas?
[08:16] <nickgarvey> caonex: SAME AS ME!
[08:16] <LTR2000> how do i give myself permissions to my homefolder
[08:16] <nickgarvey> caonex: oh pick me pick me
[08:16] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: give me a minute
[08:16] <romulo> caonex, what sthe problem
[08:16] <luisito> Warbo, well, I tried graphically only, but considering that he doesn't mess around with the system, like installing weird programs and exploring the system trying to change things, then I thing the fault is because automatix.
[08:16] <romulo> OrTigaS, yes you can
[08:16] <OrTigaS> romulo where?
[08:16] <romulo> OrTigaS, Click gnome foot menu, administration->network
[08:16] <nickgarvey> caonex: edit xorg.conf, and under Devices, put Option    NoAccel
[08:17] <intelikey> LTR2000 sudo chown name:name /home/name     where name is you.
[08:17] <nickgarvey> caonex: but run dapper, it works much better
[08:17] <nickgarvey> caonex: does your wireless card work?
[08:17] <intelikey> LTR2000 sudo chown -R name:name /home/name     where name is you.
[08:17] <caonex> nickgarvey: I already did
[08:17] <caonex> nickgarvey yes I have
[08:17] <intelikey> own your home...
[08:17] <intelikey> own your own home.
[08:17] <nickgarvey> caonex: your wireless works?
[08:17] <caonex> romulo X is the problem
[08:17] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:17] <caonex> nickgarvey: yes it does
[08:17] <nickgarvey> caonex: ?! I couldn't get it working
[08:17] <romulo> caonex, and what output it gives to you?
[08:17] <romulo> what videocard
[08:17] <caonex> ndiswrapper does the trick, nickgarvey
[08:17] <bert__> My wireless works :D
[08:17] <bert__> Wireless internet :P
[08:18] <romulo> i hate ndis
[08:18] <romulo> it doesnt work here
[08:18] <romulo> =P
[08:18] <caonex> romulo: ati 200 Xpress
[08:18] <nickgarvey> caonex: yeah.. I tried, never got it working under dapper, I am running suse 10.0 right now
[08:18] <romulo> neither bcm
[08:18] <romulo> caonex, so whats the output?
[08:18] <romulo> caonex, installed ati proprietary drivers?
[08:18] <nickgarvey> caonex: you are running dapper?
[08:18] <romulo> my card is the one broken on bcm43xx =(
[08:18] <caonex> nickgarvey, romulo: yeah, using normal installation for suse does the trick....but I want ubuntu....suse is way too slow
[08:18] <LTR2000> what program can i use to extract a rar file
[08:18] <prgrmr> i can't change /etc/resolv.conf
[08:18] <nickgarvey> caonex: that was a yeah to dapper?
[08:18] <Warbo> luisito: Basically you set your locale (not entirely sure how to do this actually) for the whole system, including ctrl-alt-f1 terminals (if you don't know what that is then REMEMBER: ctrl-alt-f7) Then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will let you reconfigure Xorg language and finally KControl will let you reconfigure KDE, and System > Preferences > keyboard will do GNOME. Hope it helps
[08:19] <nickgarvey> !tell LTR2000 about rar
[08:19] <intelikey> LTR2000 unrar ?
[08:19] <caonex> romulo: I have.....done both in the past....like I said I have gotten it to work before
[08:19] <cquillen> what encryption program does ubuntu use to encrypt the password?
[08:19] <romulo> caonex, well in my debian system i used to load X with radeon driver or vesa and just install from the current X.org
[08:19] <caonex> romulo: yeah.....I tried putting the vesa and radeon as driver but did not work
[08:19] <caonex> for radeon I need xserver-xorg-radeon
[08:19] <caonex> or something like that
[08:19] <nickgarvey> caonex: dapper works beautifully...
[08:19] <caonex> romulo
[08:19] <romulo> luisito, to reconfigure your locale run sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[08:19] <Sp4rKy> hi all
[08:19] <prgrmr> i can't edit /etc/resolv.conf, what can i do?
[08:19] <caonex> nickgarvey: what is dapper?
[08:20] <romulo> prgrmr, use sudo
[08:20] <nickgarvey> !tell caonex about dapper
[08:20] <Warbo> caonex: What is this radeon driver? Is it a free or proprietory one?
[08:20] <romulo> Warbo, free.
[08:20] <caonex> Warbo: propietary one
[08:20] <Sp4rKy> i've some issue with swsusp2 on <IP_ADDRESS> kernel , if someone could help me ...
[08:20] <romulo> Warbo, the proprietary one is fglrx
[08:20] <cafuego> `radeon' is free, `fglrx' is proprietary.
[08:20] <caonex> Warbo: it has worked in the past not completly well, but has
[08:20] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: now its giving me errors while extracting
[08:20] <romulo> caonex, mine is workig very well(RAdeon x600)
[08:20] <Warbo> romulo: I know, but I thought the free was ati (I'm using on my dad's new graphics card)
[08:20] <nickgarvey> caonex: its the next ubuntu version, try the 64 bit live cd, the wireless won't work but everything else works fine, no stupid boot codes while installing or anything
[08:20] <caonex> Warbo: I get no 3d accel because it odes not use the appropriate libraries OpenGL
[08:21] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: unzip (file.zip)
[08:21] <caonex> romulo: yeah....the problem is with 200M
[08:21] <romulo> caonex, do ./ati-something --buildpkg Ubuntu/Version
[08:21] <CNAP> what's the switch to make dpkg verbose?
[08:21] <caonex> romulo: I have to make it use ram memory
[08:21] <can0n> Anyone know where I can get sound blaster live drivers for linux?
[08:21] <caonex> romulo: I did that
[08:21] <romulo> caonex, it will generate *.debs for your system.
[08:21] <cquillen> does any one know the program used by ubuntu to encrypt the login password?
[08:21] <romulo> caonex, and?
[08:21] <romulo> caonex, modprobe fglrx
[08:21] <caonex> romulo: I have been using ubuntu for a long time and debian as well.....I have done that and it wors
[08:21] <Warbo> caonex: So there is vesa<ati<fglrx. Where does radeon fit in?
[08:21] <romulo> *sudo modprobe fglrx
[08:22] <caonex> but.....romulo, not the way is supposed to
[08:22] <caonex> right now is not doing anything
[08:22] <romulo> caonex, yeah.
[08:22] <romulo> caonex, unfortunatly im still running debian
[08:22] <romulo> (till tomorrow)
[08:22] <romulo> so i cant say the proper way to do it.
[08:22] <romulo> =p
[08:22] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: now it wont download
[08:22] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ?
[08:22] <romulo> caonex, and if the "proper" way dont work with me, ill go the default one
[08:22] <stjepan> how to disable usplash?
[08:22] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: I dont know
[08:22] <romulo> cause the default one are always more updated than the "proper"
[08:22] <caonex> romulo: what is the gnome version of debian?
[08:22] <romulo> packagin takes time
[08:22] <caonex> you using stable, romulo?
[08:23] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: it just wont download, i click save to disk, and then it doesnt do shit
[08:23] <romulo> caonex, im using 2.14, developer here.
[08:23] <romulo> unstable.
[08:23] <Warbo> stjepan: Remove the bit "splash" in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:23] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: language please
[08:23] <romulo> im one of the new gnome-panel maintainers
[08:23] <caonex> romulo: cool....that is weird to see a debian developer in here
[08:23] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: sorry
[08:23] <prgrmr> romulo, i used sudo, i think the file is in +i
[08:23] <bert__> Madpilot: Rebooting, Be Back in a Few if need be, Thanks again for your help.
[08:23] <romulo> so im using gnome CVS HEAD
[08:23] <stjepan> Warbo: I want to use splashy instead of usplash
[08:23] <romulo> prgrmr, chmod it?
[08:23] <Sp4rKy> i've some issue with swsusp2 on <IP_ADDRESS> kernel , if someone could help me ...
[08:23] <Warbo> stjepan: That is, on the "kenel" line, not GRUB's splash
[08:23] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: right click the link, copy link location to clip board
[08:23] <nickgarvey> open terminal
[08:23] <stjepan> :(
[08:23] <romulo> caonex, its weird, cause im moving to ubuntu
[08:23] <Sp4rKy> swsusp2 works with text mode but not correctly  with fb mode
[08:23] <Warbo> stjepan: I think that is pretty complex (but not as complex as boot-splash)
[08:23] <romulo> tired of chroot's
[08:23] <nickgarvey> wget "(right click paste)"
[08:23] <romulo> :D
[08:23] <caonex> romulo, nickgarvey: let me try configuring X again, otherwise trying debian or dapper
[08:24] <Sp4rKy> does anyone could help me please
[08:24] <nickgarvey> :)
[08:24] <romulo> Sp4rKy, what u need
[08:24] <lgc> nalioth: /msg you're welcome, SS...
[08:24] <OrTigaS> romulo thanks! it works!
[08:24] <romulo> oh, and caonex , remember to disable radeon fb
[08:24] <romulo> OrTigaS, you welcome
[08:24] <OrTigaS> how can i disable the "PadLock" on Start-Up and after the Login?
[08:24] <OrTigaS> i always got wrong passwd because of that
[08:25] <Sp4rKy> romulo, i need help to make work swsusp2 with fb
[08:25] <Warbo> OrTigaS: I don't get you...
[08:25] <prgrmr> romulo, chmod -i etc/resolv.conf ?
[08:25] <intelikey> numlock ?
[08:25] <Sp4rKy> romulo, i've a <IP_ADDRESS> kernel correctly patched
[08:25] <romulo> Sp4rKy, dont even know whats that, sorry
[08:25] <Sp4rKy> ok
[08:25] <Sp4rKy> crimsun, could you help me now :D
[08:25] <caonex> romulo, you got framebuffer going?
[08:25] <intelikey> Warbo OrTigaS numlock ?
[08:25] <romulo> prgrmr, sudo chmod 644 /etc/resolv.conf
[08:25] <Warbo> intelikey: Maybe. Not on by default is it?
[08:25] <OrTigaS> PADLock
[08:25] <romulo> caonex, i dont use fb
[08:26] <caonex> nickgarvey....do you need the bios to use regular ram memory
[08:26] <OrTigaS> in my Laptop
[08:26] <caonex> romulo: can you do vga=0x317 without fb?
[08:26] <cello_rasp> help, i can't ` rm *.* `..., i tells me 'invalid option.
[08:26] <nickgarvey> caonex: what do you mean?
[08:26] <Warbo> OrTigaS: Do you mean typing in password for system things (gksudo)
[08:26] <romulo> caonex, no.
[08:26] <romulo> afaik
[08:26] <caonex> romulo: vga activates fb, right?
[08:26] <romulo> yes
[08:26] <nickgarvey> caonex: I didn't need to mess with anything for dapper to work
[08:26] <romulo> afaik too
[08:26] <romulo> =P
[08:26] <intelikey> Warbo i've never really ran a default ubuntu i don't guess....  idk
[08:26] <caonex> nickgarvey: are your running accelerated drivers?
[08:26] <romulo> the only thing i will want to get rid of my ubuntu is sudo
[08:26] <romulo> =P
[08:27] <nickgarvey> caonex: naw I gave up on my graphics card
[08:27] <cens0red> is there a way I can check my cpu temperature in linux?
[08:27] <romulo> caonex, ati's readme say to you not use the proprietary driver with framebuffers
[08:27] <nickgarvey> caonex: solitare for me
[08:27] <Madpilot> cens0red, yes
[08:27] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: now nothing will start
[08:27] <cens0red> assuming my board supports it?
[08:27] <caonex> romulo: me too, I got rid of it by doing.....sudo su........passwd
[08:27] <romulo> cens0red, if you have sensors, yeah
[08:27] <caonex> and got root to work, romulo
[08:27] <Madpilot> !tell cens0red about sensors
[08:27] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: open office said there was an internal error, i cant get firefox back up
[08:27] <caonex> romulo: I cannot stand using sudo
[08:27] <romulo> cens0red, try looking for sensors packages
[08:27] <caonex> romulo: I need my root user
[08:27] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: dude what the heck did you do?
[08:27] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: im not sure
[08:27] <romulo> caonex, same
[08:27] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: reboot!
[08:28] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i think i will
[08:28] <romulo> cens0red, apt-cache search sensor
[08:28] <nickgarvey> the old windows stand by, when in doubt, reboot
[08:28] <romulo> cens0red, look for some sensor package and if your kernel and mb supports it
[08:28] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: that doesn't even rhyme
[08:28] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: not supposed too
[08:28] <intelikey> romulo i'm with ya,  give me a full root shell and let every thing else go to ...... well never mind.
[08:28] <lgc> nalioth: to be or not to be: (in the middle of the reconfig process) "deadkeys" or "nodeadkeys" for a Latin American (Mexico) keyboard?
[08:29] <Warbo> nickgarvey: You'd love "The IT Crowd". Tech support guys who run a tape recorder that says "Have you tried turning it off and on.... Are you SURE it's plugged in?..." :)
[08:29] <cens0red> romulo apt-get install lm-sensors ?
[08:29] <romulo> intelikey, not with my router, firewall and iptables buddy ;)
[08:29] <romulo> cens0red, i believe yes
[08:29] <nalioth> lgc: none
[08:29] <nickgarvey> haha
[08:29] <OrTigaS> Warbo, the KeyPAD lock always on
[08:29] <caonex> nickgarvey: do you see the graphical boot now?
[08:29] <caonex> you have my laptop you said, nickgarvey?
[08:29] <romulo> intelikey, and even my 16 mixed character+numbers password :D
[08:29] <nickgarvey> caonex: I do
[08:29] <prgrmr> romulo, how can i change it into +i again?
[08:29] <Warbo> OrTigaS: Sounds Laptop specific, I don't have a (working) laptop
[08:29] <cquillen> does any one know the program used by ubuntu to encrypt the login password which is found in shadow
[08:30] <OrTigaS> after i install the automatix and run.. the KEYPADLock always on
[08:30] <caonex> nickgarvey: so you see the graphical boot ?
[08:30] <nickgarvey> OrTigaS: WHY! WHY DID YOU DO IT!
[08:30] <intelikey> romulo i'll go you one better,  there is no password on this system.   all accounts are locked.
[08:30] <OrTigaS> Warbo yes it laptop
[08:30] <lgc> nalioth: does it mean I will generate a space with every accent I type?
[08:30] <romulo> prgrmr, dunno, maybe chmod +i
[08:30] <nickgarvey> caonex: yup
[08:30] <OrTigaS> nickgarvey i dont know
[08:30] <romulo> intelikey, hehehe
[08:30] <caonex> nickgarvey: can you run glxgears, and tell me how fast it goes?
[08:30] <Madpilot> OrTigaS, yes, that's because automatix enabled the numlockx program
[08:30] <nalioth> lgc: no seh keyboards mexicano
[08:30] <caonex> nickgarvey: any problems so far?
[08:30] <nickgarvey> caonex: eek I'm runnig suse remember
[08:30] <OrTigaS> Madpilot how can i disable it?
[08:30] <Madpilot> OrTigaS, not sure
[08:30] <nickgarvey> caonex: I'd put in a live cd but that wolud mean no internet
[08:31] <romulo> caonex, sorry by interrupt, glxgears here gives me 3000fps
[08:31] <caonex> nickgarvey: with its condition....testing?
[08:31] <romulo> caonex, and fgl_glxgears gives me 800
[08:31] <Madpilot> OrTigaS, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock
[08:31] <lgc> nalioth: not that I want to make fun of your Spanish, but what do you mean?
[08:31] <caonex> romulo: what?
[08:31] <caonex> romulo: but then again you have a different card
[08:31] <intelikey> cquillen shadow  does that, afik
[08:31] <caonex> romulo: it works better for you
[08:31] <OrTigaS> i always to turn-off after booting and loging-in :(
[08:31] <romulo> caonex, yeah.
[08:31] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: whoops! I left the install cd in the drive, that freaked me out
[08:31] <caonex> romulo: you never had to enable the uma memory in the bios I bet
[08:31] <nalioth> lgc: disculpa, mi espaol es tex-mex
[08:31] <romulo> caonex, dont even know whats that
[08:31] <nickgarvey> OrTigaS: why did you run it.. why would you do that to your computer...
[08:31] <prgrmr> romulo, i get an error, chmod: invalid mode string: '+i'
[08:32] <romulo> prgrmr, so its not it
[08:32] <romulo> =P
[08:32] <romulo> let me search
[08:32] <bert_> Madpilot: did you get my PM?
[08:32] <romulo> googling
[08:32] <caonex> romulo: this ati cards come with the ability to use aditionally to its dedicated memory, ram memory
[08:32] <Madpilot> bert_, no
[08:32] <romulo> caonex, didnt know that...anyway that bios option is not avaible for me =P
[08:32] <caonex> in order to get the propietary drivers to work, you need to activate that in the bios....which sucks because I only have 512
[08:32] <bert_> Madpilot: Ok, Well, I tried all that, I rebooted, an' everything, and I got this error  You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!
[08:32] <bert_> , and I tried running it without it..
[08:32] <Warbo> caonex: ONLY?
[08:33] <cquillen> intelikey do you know how shadow encrypts it, which program is used?
[08:33] <caonex> romulo: see.....trust me this is aggrevating, but nickgarvey says it is working fine....
[08:33] <nickgarvey> caonex: oh cool, didn't know you could do that, I'll have to play around
[08:33] <caonex> Warbo: ?>
[08:33] <bert_> Madpilot: But it lagged so extremely bad, that It would be impossible to play, without it.
[08:33] <nickgarvey> caonex: use a dapper live boot cd
[08:33] <caonex> nickgarvey: so what was the result of glxgears?
[08:33] <Madpilot> bert_, those ati drivers should work for a 9800, not sure what to suggest
[08:33] <romulo> caonex, well i didnt set up this here, its a gateway laptop
[08:33] <nickgarvey> caonex: running suse!
[08:33] <romulo> caonex, 256mb of dedicated memory for card
[08:33] <romulo> 1gb system
[08:33] <bert_> Madpilot: Hmm...I don't even know where to begin to get it to work...
[08:33] <lgc> nalioth: no prob. You're helping a lot here!
[08:34] <romulo> argh i should be sleeping
[08:34] <ahmeni> Is there a way to install Ubuntu via an existing linux installation?
[08:34] <nickgarvey> caonex: but works fine on suse
[08:34] <caonex> nickgarvey: what version of firefox?
[08:34] <nickgarvey> caonex: 1.5
[08:34] <OrTigaS> nickgarvey i thought it will update for better
[08:34] <romulo> but i have no dreams when chatting neither trying to freakly install ubuntu from a usb pendrive
[08:34] <Warbo> ahmeni: debootstrap
[08:34] <Madpilot> bert_, the ATI drivers should just work, not sure why you're having problems - go over the instructions again, maybe?
[08:34] <Warbo> ahmeni: maybe
[08:34] <nickgarvey> caonex: on dapper you mean?
[08:34] <caonex> nickgarvey: I thought you said you had dapper
[08:34] <caonex> nickgarvey: yeah....on suse did not work as good
[08:34] <nickgarvey> caonex: I did, but I couldn't get wireless so I tried suse
[08:35] <bert_> Madpilot: I didn't miss a one, on the instructions on the first link you sent me, and I did all the commands needed to be done, and it said reboot so I rebooted, and still., nothing, I'll check again and see if I missed anything.
[08:35] <caonex> nickgarvey: suse does not have apt...and yast is sort of slow.....what do you get with glxgears in suse?
[08:35] <intelikey> cquillen crypt ?    i really don't.    but i think the shadow utils do all of it.
[08:35] <caonex> romulo: why don't use fb?
[08:35] <nickgarvey> caonex: a blue, red, and green gear, spinning
[08:35] <romulo> caonex, it says that it conflicts with ati proprietary drivers
[08:35] <caonex> nickgarvey: yeah....what is the the terminal saying?
[08:35] <Madpilot> bert_, good luck - I'm signing off in a minute or so - just ask again here for more help
[08:35] <caonex> romulo: that is true but suse installs it....very nice
[08:36] <nickgarvey> 3000 frames in 5.0 seconds = 600.000 FPS
[08:36] <romulo> caonex, the fb?
[08:36] <bert_> Madpilot: ok, Thanks for the help, Take care.
[08:36] <caonex> romulo that is slow right ?
[08:36] <romulo> caonex, yes.
[08:36] <nickgarvey> :(
[08:36] <romulo> caonex, very slow
[08:36] <caonex> romulo: see....
[08:36] <nickgarvey> I thought it was fine
[08:36] <macfast> Let me know how can i install bioperl on a ubundu system
[08:36] <romulo> caonex, my geforce 4 mx 400 used to show me 1000fps
[08:36] <romulo> and it was 64mb
[08:36] <caonex> romulo: nickgarvey this card has more potential.....
[08:36] <nickgarvey> caonex: yeah true..
[08:37] <caonex> nickgarvey: that is why I need to put ubuntu or debian back on
[08:37] <romulo> nickgarvey, please glxinfo
[08:37] <romulo> and check Direct Rendering
[08:37] <caonex> nickgarvey: look for Drivers
[08:37] <caonex> OPENGL
[08:37] <caonex> nickgarvey: it says libmesa
[08:37] <romulo> libmesa?
[08:37] <caonex> it should say fglrx, nickgarvey
[08:37] <romulo> then its not ati ;)
[08:37] <OrTigaS> so where can i edit to disable that PadLock(i think same as Numlock)
[08:37] <nickgarvey> caonex: not there, nothing on drivers
[08:37] <caonex> romulo: yeah.....it uses the wrong one....that is what I dislike about this card with propietary drivers
[08:38] <nickgarvey> says OPENGL though
[08:38] <nickgarvey> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[08:38] <caonex> romulo: see that......
[08:38] <nickgarvey> and then OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[08:38] <caonex> romulo: it is using libmesa
[08:38] <caonex> and I created a diversion using apt and still did not work
[08:38] <mike> who wants to remote into my computer and get my fglrx driver installed?
[08:38] <romulo> prgrmr, sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[08:39] <caonex> romulo: I even used lddconfig to change libmesa to fglrx
[08:39] <romulo> nickgarvey, your driver isnt working
[08:39] <nickgarvey> romulo: :(
[08:39] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 143
[08:39] <romulo> nickgarvey, you should install ati proprietary drivers
[08:39] <OrTigaS> where can i edit the sudoer?
[08:39] <mike> haha
[08:39] <nickgarvey> romulo: yeah.. I should
[08:39] <mike> it's impossible!
[08:39] <nalioth> OrTigaS: in a terminal, "man visudo"
[08:39] <mike> i have tried days on end to get it to work
[08:39] <OrTigaS> it wont accept psswd
[08:39] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: um.. not sure,, try the forums...
[08:39] <caonex> nickgarvey: the propietary ones do the same
[08:39] <prgrmr> romulo, 10X :)
[08:39] <romulo> well, heres how i do it: first i run it on X, then it install the kernel modules, then i run it ./ati-something --buildpkg Debian/experimental(what i have here) and install the *.debs
[08:40] <nalioth> OrTigaS: be very careful or you will mess up your system
[08:40] <firebird619> I am trying to install WW2D on Ubuntu 5.10. It will not install successfully and I have pasted the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12588          There are two files I have to use, the WW2D.jar file and JOGL-Inst.jar. Could someone take a look at the output and help me? Thanks.
[08:40] <caonex> romulo: they propietary do the same
[08:40] <romulo> prgrmr, yw
[08:40] <OrTigaS> oh yea
[08:40] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: alright, thanks for the help, ill try this tomorrow. i need sleep
[08:40] <OrTigaS> forgot that
[08:40] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: same ;)
[08:40] <caonex> nickgarvey: why not running dapper right now?
[08:40] <romulo> i have school in 2 hours
[08:40] <romulo> =P
[08:40] <nickgarvey> caonex: couldn't get wireless worknig
[08:40] <romulo> and i havent sleep anything yet
[08:40] <romulo> =P
[08:40] <caonex> nickgarvey: even with ndiswrapper?
[08:40] <nickgarvey> caonex: I might try again
[08:40] <mike> you have to uninstall bcmw4xx
[08:40] <nickgarvey> caonex: yeah.. thats what I used
[08:40] <mike> orsomething
[08:40] <King-of-no-pants> later all
[08:40] <nickgarvey> later
[08:40] <mike> and then blacklist it
[08:41] <caonex> nickgarvey: what driver?
[08:41] <nickgarvey> mike: yeah I did that...
[08:41] <lgc> nalioth: maybe I'm messing up since I'm working with irssi-text and it's giving me a hard time with flipping between channels...
[08:41] <nickgarvey> caonex: um bcmwl5.inf
[08:41] <caonex> nick I used something else I think
[08:41] <CNAP> romulo, just tried installing that linux-image 2.16 and ran into some problems. aparently dependencies didn't match. any idea what else i need to download along with the linux-image ?
[08:41] <nickgarvey> caonex: its working fine on suse
[08:41] <mike> then make sure you have wlan0 picked as your default gateway
[08:41] <blindx> So Descartes enters a bar and has a glass. When he finishes, the bartender says "hey, want another?" Descartes replies "I think not" and instantly vanishes in a poof of logic.
[08:41] <caonex> nickgarvey: using the same procedures?
[08:41] <nickgarvey> mike: ah but thats the problem!
[08:41] <blindx> gah wrong channel.
[08:41] <lgc> nalioth: what I mean is I hardly know how to operate it...
[08:41] <romulo> for (i=0;i<sizeof(long)*sizeof(long);i++) std::cout << "I hate ndiswrapper" << std::endl;
[08:41] <nickgarvey> it was detecitng it as eth0!
[08:41] <mike> yeah
[08:41] <romulo> CNAP, will check
[08:41] <nickgarvey> haha nice romulo
[08:42] <mike> make sure that you select wlan
[08:42] <ahmeni> Warbo: Ahh, debootstrap is in the gentoo repository too.  Thanks :)
[08:42] <nickgarvey> mike: I didn't pick it
[08:42] <romulo> or just while(1) std::cout << ...
[08:42] <caonex> nickgarvey: netbc64.inf
[08:42] <nickgarvey> when it detected the interface, thtas what it picked
[08:42] <nickgarvey> caonex: ? where did you get that?
[08:42] <caonex> romulo: I don't like it, but what other choice?
[08:42] <romulo> Depends: module-init-tools (>= 0.9.13), e2fsprogs (>= 1.35-7), initramfs-tools (>= 0.53) | yaird (>= 0.0.12-8) | linux-initramfs-tool
[08:42] <ahmeni> One must not hate ndiswrapper, but hate the network cards that use them!
[08:42] <Warbo> ahmeni: You can use it to give you basic Debian, then change that into Ubuntu
[08:42] <caonex> nickgarvey: some tutorials online
[08:42] <nickgarvey> ahmeni: :)
[08:42] <romulo> caonex, i dont have any choice, neither ndis, neither bcm works =(
[08:42] <intelikey> hmmmm i wonder if this is actually going to break something....    apt-get --purge remove passwd
[08:42] <mike> any luck?
[08:43] <nickgarvey> caonex: I read several, which is how I got the driver I have now
[08:43] <caonex> ok....I will try with drapper
[08:43] <romulo> ahmeni, you right, i hate my wireless card!!!
[08:43] <caonex> romulo: try debian or drapper?
[08:43] <nickgarvey> dapper*
[08:43] <mike> dapper rocks my balls off
[08:43] <romulo> caonex, i will install dapper tomorrow
[08:43] <romulo> caonex, im in conflict with amd64 distros
[08:43] <romulo> =P
[08:43] <romulo> is something like *i hate you*
[08:43] <caonex> nickgarvey: I will msg you if I ge tit working
[08:44] <caonex> romulo: I have gotten this 64 to work nicely
[08:44] <unforcer> ubuntu has confilict with all platfrom
[08:44] <unforcer> s
[08:44] <nickgarvey> good luck
[08:44] <caonex> romulo: the only thing is the card
[08:44] <romulo> my 64 is working good
[08:44] <romulo> everything except the wireless is working
[08:44] <romulo> but 64 bit system is not for me
[08:44] <mike> does anyone have any suggestions on why i can't get my fglrx driver installed properly
[08:44] <mike> ?