[01:00] <iq> Hi, I'm new to Kubuntu. I've been trying to change color theme for Konversation. But for some reason the chat screen stays bright. Is there an easy way to make it dark as well like rest of the UI?
[01:31] <iq> Hello
[02:31] <user|75> Hi, I am using 21.04, installed "Authy" using snap but it seems to be hanging up the system everytime I use it.
[02:32] <user|75> Anyone else using Authy successfully ?
 Any one have link to their community (re @IrcsomeBot: <Mamarok> as I said, you can always ask the vlc people, I bet they have a channel as well)
[03:56] <mybalzitch> #videolan on libera maybe on freenode too
 ??? (re @IrcsomeBot: <mybalzitch> #videolan on libera maybe on freenode too)
[04:23] <mybalzitch> for vlc
[09:08] <sacarde> hi
[09:08] <sacarde> in kmail5, where can I found maildir path?
[11:21] <Guest22> Hello, I have an old version of Kubuntu, how can I update my os ?
 Yes (re @IrcsomeBot: <mybalzitch> for vlc)
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:17] <www> hello
[12:17] <www> hello?
[12:17] <www> okay
[12:18] <Mekaneck> sigh
[12:19] <BluesKaj> heh, expects instant gratification :-)
[12:20] <Mekaneck> just when i wanted to type they left.... :)
[15:48] <lmx> hello guys
[17:02] <IrcsomeBot_> <Mohamed Ikbel> Hello everybody
[17:02] <IrcsomeBot_> <Mohamed Ikbel> I am posting my problem, i am trying to solve it for many days ..
[17:02] <IrcsomeBot_> <Mohamed Ikbel> I upgraded to KDE Plasma 5.22 on Kubuntu 21.04 with this cmd:
[17:02] <IrcsomeBot_> <Mohamed Ikbel> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[17:02] <IrcsomeBot_> <Mohamed Ikbel> Then
[17:02] <IrcsomeBot_> <Mohamed Ikbel> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:02] <IrcsomeBot_> <Mohamed Ikbel> During the upgrade I have this error msg
[17:02] <IrcsomeBot_> <Mohamed Ikbel> Err :7 http://ppa.launchpad.net/jstaf/onedriver/ubuntu hirsute Release
[17:02] <IrcsomeBot_> <Mohamed Ikbel>  404  Not Found [IP : <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[17:02] <IrcsomeBot_> <Mohamed Ikbel> After thar, i can't use my Google Drive in Dolphin anymor ... :( and i need this very much :( :( :(
[17:02] <IrcsomeBot_> <Mohamed Ikbel> Can any one help me plzzz.
[17:03] <diogenes_> Mohamed Ikbel, what are you trying to do?
 That 3rd party PPA has no packages for hirsute, hence the error
 Also this is completely and utterly unrelated to the backports PPA
[17:08] <IrcsomeBot_> <Mohamed Ikbel> Can i back to the old version ??? (re @RikMills: That 3rd party PPA has no packages for hirsute, hence the error)
[17:09] <genii-core> !ppapurge
[17:10] <tomreyn> ppa-purge will fail if the repository does not exist (or does not exist for the configured release).
[17:11] <tomreyn> a onedrive client which works is in ubuntu, called "onedrive"
[17:11] <tomreyn> https://packages.ubuntu.com/hirsute/onedrive
 You can try changing the hirsute in the sources list to focal for that onedrive PPA. The library versions the focal package depends on in it's control file do not seem to have changed (re @Mohamed Ikbel: Can i back to the old version ???)
 A better option would be the PPA owner building a package for hirsute
 Or has been mentioned, use another onedrive client
 Hi
 On manjaro KDE connect was smooth and flawlessy, on kubuntu it doesnt work properly what could i di? (re @DarinMiller: Is the manual option not available on the disk selection tab?)
 On manjaro KDE connect was smooth and flawlessy, on kubuntu it doesnt work properly what could i investigate? (re @DarinMiller: Is the manual option not available on the disk selection tab?)
 Can you specify what function on KDE Connect is failing?
 And which version of Kubuntu?
 I'm switching from w10 to Linux
 I'm without a USB drive, so I used the UNetbootin tool
 So I followed this tutorial accordingly
 https://linuxhint.com/install-ubuntu-without-usb/
 Then I got to the Windows Boot Manager screen with the options to select between W10 or UNetbootin
 When I select the UNetbootin, a error appears
 \ubnldr.mbr 0xc000007
[18:10] <diogenes_> Axis4sx UNetbootin шы тщ пщщвб екн уесрукю
[18:10] <diogenes_> damn
[18:10] <diogenes_> i said UNetbootin is no good, try etcher.
 The version of kubuntu that I want to install is the latest, 21.04
 Ooh
 Also on the error screen, it appears a Options to go to the UEFI settings
 Also on the error screen, it appears a Options to go to the UEFI settings
 Or return to the OS selection tab
 And okay (re @IrcsomeBot: <diogenes_> i said UNetbootin is no good, try etcher.)
[18:51] <soundee2222> Hello! My settings in Kubuntu 21.04 are begaving in a strange way. I cannot reach the configure event and notifications actions.
[18:51] <soundee2222> i wanted to turn off some annoying notifications, but the settings are gone
[19:35] <akselmo> Hi guys, im pretty new-ish to linux. If I wanna give xfce a try, should i just install xubuntu or can i just install xfce in kubuntu without messing everything up?
[20:25] <valorie> akselmo: personally, I would install Xubuntu in a VM
[20:25] <valorie> it's not difficult to create a virtual machine
 also (re @IrcsomeBot: <diogenes_> i said UNetbootin is no good, try etcher.)
 can i boot the iso with out a Pendrive? on the etcher
[20:43] <soundee2222> ehm... i lost connection. I am missing the settings for notifications in Kubuntu. I must have or I might not have done something to my installation. I cacnot find the answer on Google
[20:44] <soundee2222> like is there a spearate package for notifications in system settings?
[20:47] <valorie> soundee2222: it sounds like something in ~/.config is corrupted
[20:48] <soundee2222> @valorie like what? please, tell me where to look\
[20:48] <valorie> the files in .config are just text -- you can remove (or more safely, rename) them and they will be recreated
[20:48] <valorie> ~/ means HOME
[20:49] <valorie> so whatever is your username
[20:49] <soundee2222> I know whete to find ~/.config
[20:49] <soundee2222> what file should I rename?
[20:49] <valorie> open it up, and look through the folders
[20:49] <valorie> see if something jumps out at you
[20:50] <valorie> it should be something about plasma I would think
[20:51] <valorie> I have a folder in there called plasma-workspace
[20:51] <valorie> I would look in there
[20:52] <soundee2222> there arejust two empty dirs in there
[20:54] <valorie> hmmmm, same for me
[20:54] <valorie> I would go ask in #kde-plasma
[20:54] <valorie> or maybe it's just #plasma
 Could i get help please?
 there is a channel for helping newbies installing the OS?
[20:55] <valorie> although be warned, it's late and the weekend
[20:56] <valorie> @Axis4sx | !iso
[20:56] <valorie> hmmm
 !iso
[20:56] <valorie> !iso
 ?
[20:56] <valorie> sorry
 is there a way of booting the ISO without a CD/Pen-Drive
[20:57] <valorie> yes, if you are using a VM
 oh
 only via a VM
[20:57] <valorie> you just choose the file in your hard drive from in the VM
 but, im planning on switching from W10 to Kubuntu
[20:58] <valorie> not seeing your point
[20:58] <valorie> a thumb drive (or as it used to be, a CD or DVD is the easiest way
[20:59] <valorie> also you can test in a live session before installing
 i meant running the OS installer WITHOUT the use of a pendrive or a CD
 only using the PC alone
[20:59] <valorie> yes, in a VM
 but, its a virtual machine
[21:00] <valorie> I can't think of another way
 im talking about an real machine
[21:00] <valorie> yes, VMs are commonly used for testing
[21:01] <valorie> there are tools to install from the internet directly but.... that is not for a beginner
 i just want to switch from Windows 10 to Linux
 i just want to switch from Windows 10 to Kubuntu
[21:02] <valorie> !windows
[21:03] <valorie> piffle
[21:03] <valorie> well, that's easily done
[21:03] <valorie> you can burn a DVD/thumbdrive in Win
[21:03] <valorie> and then install over windows or next to it
[21:03] <valorie> !burn
 I Meant, replace the windows 10 OS WITH Kubuntu
 not a dual boot
[21:04] <valorie> right
[21:04] <valorie> that is what I have done
[21:04] <valorie> I do have an old Win VM
[21:04] <valorie> but I've not used it for a couple of years
[21:05] <genii-core> If you do this, you should record your Win10 serial number first and store it somewhere safe so that later you can reinstall it if the machine needs to either go back for servicing, or be sold
[21:06] <valorie> got rid of Win in.... 2001
[21:06] <valorie> and only set up the VM to run one program
[21:06] <valorie> which no longer exists
[21:06] <valorie> lol
[21:07] <valorie> I found a Win ISO online
[21:07] <valorie> from MS, so it's not pirated
[21:07] <genii-core> You can download Win 10 image directly from Microsoft to reinstall, if you still have a valid key for it
[21:08] <genii-core> Also Win 7
[21:08] <genii-core> ( but not anything earlier than that now)
[22:05] <akselmo> valorie: just tried it in vm, glad i did. kinda like it but i think i prefer kde for now
[22:08] <valorie> akselmo: cool!
[22:09] <valorie> now you have a VM you can use for all sorts of things, including testing
[22:09] <valorie> :-)
[22:29] <akselmo> yea im not new in world of vm's, you reminded me that i could do that instead lol :'D


[06:58] <shadeslayer> debfx: ah yes, my bad
[06:59] <shadeslayer> ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/98629/
[07:24] <bambee> morning
[07:40] <mvo> quick question to the kubuntu people, is "DESKTOP_SESSION" defined there (i.e. does echo $DESKTOP_SESSION print something)? and if it does, what exactly? kde? kubuntu?
[07:42] <shadeslayer> since i'm in neon, it gives me project-neon
[07:44] <bambee> it gives me "kde-plasma" here
[07:44] <bambee> it seems to be the current running desktop...
[07:49] <bambee> and apparently it is set by the login manager
[07:50] <shadeslayer> i'd say its set by the xsession entry
[07:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: rbelem do you have a idea where i can find a driver for the Ardeno 220 GPU ?
[07:50] <bambee> shadeslayer: not found into Xsession scripts
[07:51] <bambee> ahh found into kdm code :)
[09:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no
[09:22] <apachelogger> mvo: you want to go by KDE_FULL_SESSION
[09:22] <apachelogger> which is true whenever the present session was started by startkde
[09:22] <apachelogger> which covers all shell versions of KDE etc.
[09:29] <apachelogger> !find a52.h
[11:39] <dpm> hey apachelogger. We've been sorting out the KDE templates in LP and I think we've got everything figured out. May I ask you to do a sanity check on this sheet -> http://goo.gl/iaUcA ? I just want to make sure that: a) some of the templates formerly in konq-plugins are now part of kde-baseapps (should konq-plugins go away?) and b) The source_package/template combinations highlighted in yellow should be disabled
[12:03] <apachelogger> dpm: yes, konq-plugins was merged into kde-baseapps
[12:03] <apachelogger> kappfinder was removed
[12:11] <apachelogger> kde rev 1118724
[12:12] <apachelogger> dpm: kcminfoslave also removed as per kde rev 1118725
[12:13] <apachelogger> dpm: kcm-parition removed a sper kde rev 1092773
[12:13] <apachelogger> dpm: same for kcmsolidproc, same revision
[12:14] <apachelogger> dpm: kwrite moved to kate source package
[12:19] <apachelogger> as for the konq-plugins in particular: crashesplugin removed as per kde rev 1104131, sidebarmediaplayer and metabar as per kde rev 1199467
[12:20] <apachelogger> the desktop file should be merged into desktop_kde-baseapps
[12:21] <dpm> apachelogger, excellent, that's exactly what I wanted to know
[12:21]  * dpm hugs apachelogger
[12:21]  * apachelogger hugs dpm right back
[12:21] <apachelogger> dpm: if you need anything else you know where to find me :)
[12:21] <dpm> great, thanks ;)
[12:24] <dpm> apachelogger, actually, there is something else, re: kate. I didn't see any kate templates, and looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/kate it seems there hasn't been any upload yet? Or am I looking at the wrong source package?
[12:25] <apachelogger> dpm: right, apparently shadeslayer didn't fix it into uploadable condition yet
[12:25]  * apachelogger pokes shadeslayer with a phonon
[12:25] <shadeslayer> ScottK was reviewing kate
[12:25] <dpm> apachelogger, ok, gotcha
[12:25] <shadeslayer> it had a bit of copyright issue
[12:25] <shadeslayer> working it out with upstream authors
[12:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: re: Adreno 220, i did manage to find a fb driver for it
[12:27] <apachelogger> real men use rs232 anyway
[12:28] <shadeslayer> yeah, have fun playing ASCII Portal on it
[12:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: any ideas what the daily limit on the card  is?
[12:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no
[12:32] <debfx> shadeslayer: I've started reviewing gwenview's copyright file:
[12:33] <debfx> tests/imageloadbench.cpp doesn't have a licensing header
[12:33] <debfx> agateau: could you please fix that? ^
[12:33] <debfx> lib/flowlayout.* is GPL 2 or 3
[12:35] <debfx> lib/splittercollapser.* is LGPL 2.1 or 3 or later approved by KDE e.V.
[12:35] <debfx> lib/libjpeg-62 and lib/libjpeg-80 are completely missing
[12:37] <shadeslayer> debfx: ah i have a question about repacking the tarball
[12:37] <shadeslayer> do you want me to patch the tarball and reupload it or add a patch in debian/patches
[12:38] <debfx> and the authors of doc/index.docbook are missing
[12:39] <shadeslayer> debfx: do you have the latest git sources?
[12:39] <shadeslayer> because authors are fixed in git afaik
[12:39] <debfx> shadeslayer: the tarball needs to be patched but maybe we should wait until tests/imageloadbench.cpp is fixed
[12:39] <debfx> shadeslayer: yes, they need to be added to the copyright file
[12:40] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[12:40] <shadeslayer> i can fix that right now
[12:41] <debfx> shadeslayer: let me push my changes first :)
[12:41] <debfx> ok, done
[12:41] <shadeslayer> sure
[12:53] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/gwenview] Rohan Garg * 14 * debian/copyright * Add copyright holders for docbook
[12:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: since the Touchpad is missing GPU drivers, does it still make sense to buy one?
[12:55] <apachelogger> which?
[12:56] <apachelogger> and again, it depends on what you want to do with it
[12:56] <shadeslayer> i'd like to run plasma active
[12:56] <shadeslayer> and i don't get the previous question
[14:24] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtruby] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control copyright) resync with debian and update to rc2
[14:24] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtruby] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/changelog fix changelog
[14:51] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/korundum] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) resync with debian and update to rc2
[16:36] <debfx> does anyone use rekonq on oneiric?
[16:37] <debfx> it would be good to have some more testing with qtwebkit 2.2
[16:40] <debfx> I've uploaded it to https://launchpad.net/~debfx/+archive/experimental
[17:07] <apachelogger> debfx: you have time to ppa package qt 4.8 alpha/beta/rc/something/whatever?
[17:09] <shadeslayer> iirc that was postponed according to the blueprint
[17:12] <apachelogger> PPA
[17:13] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[17:34] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Philip Muškovac * 133 * debian/ (4 files) rc2 update and symbol file refresh
[17:37] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 522 * debian/ (changelog control libkwineffects1abi2.symbols) Merge branch lp:~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace
[17:39] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 523 * debian/changelog fix changelog
[17:40] <bambee> :D
[17:40] <debfx> apachelogger: nope, don't have time for that
[17:42] <yofel> bambee: while the branch is fine, your ppa package is NOT. What's debian/patches/debian-changes-4\:4.6.95-0ubuntu1~ppa2?
[17:42] <apachelogger> anyone got time for Qt 4.8 ppa build?
[17:43] <bambee> yofel: arrff damnit
[17:43] <bambee> yofel: fixing
[17:46] <bambee> what the hell is this patch? I did not modify something... o_O
[17:48] <yofel> from the log message in the patch it happened during your resync with bzr
[17:48] <yofel> probably some manually applied patch of the ones that were dropped?
[17:51] <bambee> yofel: fixed
[17:59] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[18:04] <yofel> btw. anyone an idea what happened to kdm's SessionsDirs ?
[18:04] <yofel> natty: SessionsDirs=/usr/share/xsessions,/var/lib/menu-xdg/xsessions,/usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions
[18:04] <yofel> oneiric: SessionsDirs=/etc/kde4/kdm/sessions,/usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions
[18:05] <bambee> build failure for kde-workspace but it will be solved when kdepimlibs will be finished :)
[18:11] <yofel> BTW: we have kdevelop packages in ninjas that need testing. Both oneiric and natty
[18:17] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 524 * debian/not-installed put python 2.7 files into not-installed too
[18:24] <debfx> yofel: let me guess, we have a patch that changes SessionsDirs which didn't survive the kde 4.7 update
[18:25] <yofel> no idea, I did a short check but couldn't find one. genkdmconf.c isn't exactly easy to understand...
[18:25] <yofel> or I don't know where to look
[18:28] <debfx> so close, it didn't survive the merge
[18:29] <debfx> yofel: it's 07_kdmrc_defaults_kubuntu.diff
[18:32] <yofel> bah, I didn't check the series file
[18:39] <sheytan> Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey :D
[18:39] <sheytan> Will the new PIM be released with kde 4.7, guys?
[18:39] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 181 * debian/ (changelog control) Merge branch lp:~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps and add libtidy-dev to build-deps
[18:42] <yofel> sheytan: probably not, at least not without some testing. I'll mention kdepim in the announcement for 4.7 once the PPA package are done (will probably be 4.7.0)
[18:43] <yofel> rbelem: thanks for your plasma mobile merge request for kde-runtime, but since that has no changelog entry I can't make any sense of it
[18:43] <sheytan> yofel ok
[18:43] <yofel> bambee: did you file a merge request for kde-runtime?
[18:44] <bambee> oh not yet
[18:44] <bambee> doing it now
[18:49] <rbelem> yofel, those patches needs to be updated
[18:50] <rbelem> yofel, i will do that after the kubuntu mobile meeting tomorrow
[18:50] <rbelem> :-)
[18:53] <bambee> yofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime/+merge/68440
[19:08]  * Mamarok wonders why Ubuntu writes KDE configuration files in /usr/share/kde4/.config/ instead of $HOME/.kde/share/config/:  http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=96032&p=200271&e=200271 (in French)
[19:17] <debfx> yofel: are you taking care of resurrecting the kdmrc patch?
[19:18] <yofel> yes, I'll have a look at it later
[19:26] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 220 * debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) Merge branch lp:~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime and merge unreleased changelog entries
[19:28] <yofel> bambee: suggestion: can you use 'ppa/merge' instead of ppa/bzr if you've a merge request pending? Makes things easier to track. I merged kde-(workspace|runtime|baseapps) for now
[19:32] <bambee> yofel: ok
[19:39] <yofel> great, kdm defaults are nonsense:
[19:39] <yofel> Default: *KDMDATA "/sessions"
[19:39] <yofel> Instance: */KDMCONF "/sessions," KDMDATA "/sessions"
[19:39] <yofel> if that's the default, shouldn't that be the same o.O?
[19:44] <yofel> well, was like that before already, so at least nothing new...
[19:54] <sheytan> apachelogger ping
[19:54] <sheytan> apachelogger any progress on the lightdm stuff?
[19:56] <apachelogger> Mamarok: usr/share/kde4/config is the global config
[19:56] <apachelogger> installed by amarok
[19:56] <apachelogger> sheytan: no
[19:56] <apachelogger> on video playing though
[19:56] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/xhB3U.png
[19:56] <apachelogger> now painted using opengl
[19:56] <sheytan> apachelogger well, that's what happens with cool things :(
[19:57] <apachelogger> ldm is not any cooler than kdm from what I know
[19:57] <apachelogger> that said there are various implications surrounding the entire display manager business that need addressen
[19:57] <apachelogger> addressing even
[19:57] <sheytan> apachelogger well, can you code the mockup to work with kdm? If yes, then there's no need to change kubuntu to ldm, right?
[19:58] <apachelogger> I did not look into it
[19:58] <apachelogger> don't have time for that
[19:59] <apachelogger> sheytan: you could poke sreich in #kde-devel
[19:59] <apachelogger> he is doing plasma for kdm
[19:59] <apachelogger> so he should be able to wip up that ui
[19:59] <sheytan> heard about it
[20:01] <Mamarok> apachelogger: well, apparently that user only had this config settings and not the one in $HOME/.kde/share/config, that folder seemed not to exist on his computer
[20:02] <sheytan> apachelogger what's the player for? To replace dragon?
[20:02] <Mamarok> unless he didn't tell me the truth...
[20:03] <apachelogger> *shrug* perhaps he has some stuff installed that messed with his configs in there
[20:03] <apachelogger> sheytan: no, my gsoc project
[20:04] <apachelogger> incidentially enough there is also a top secret fork of that player which is going to become the better dragonplayer :P
[20:11] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 525 * debian/ (changelog patches/kdmrc_defaults.diff patches/series) Re-enable kdmrc_defaults.diff and update it for new kdm data path
[20:27] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 526 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) wrong patch, use the right one


[03:28] <LaserJock> nixternal: ping
[03:40] <nixternal> LaserJock: pong?
[03:40] <LaserJock> nixternal: I submitted my first fridge item
[03:40] <LaserJock> care to take a look?
[03:40] <nixternal> will do right now
[03:42] <nixternal> submitted
[03:44] <LaserJock> thank you sir
[09:36] <LaserJock> ok, so MOTU are having an open Q&A time and a Universe HUG day in the next week
[09:37] <LaserJock> do those sound fridge worthy?
[09:48] <mdke> you could tweak dholbach's text for the q&a announcement
[09:58] <LaserJock> I was going to sort of push both into one "In MOTU this week" kind of thing
[09:58] <LaserJock> in general Fridge seems to have a lot of "after the fact" news
[09:58] <mdke> LaserJock: sounds like a good plan
[09:58] <LaserJock> is it bad for me to do more "announcing X"
[09:59] <LaserJock> sort of marketing events rather than reporting on them after the fact
[10:00] <mdke> no, of course not; that sounds great
[10:01] <LaserJock> ok, I just don't want to break Fridge mojo
[10:01] <LaserJock> but I got like 3 times as many hits on my Behind MOTU blog since putting it on Fridge
[10:01] <LaserJock> than even putting it on Planet
[10:02] <mdke> that's pretty cool
[10:02] <mdke> we need to do more docteam publicity there :)
[10:03] <LaserJock> mhm
[10:31] <LaserJock> hmm, did something happen in fridge last night?
[10:31] <Burgundavia> why doy ou ask?
[10:32] <LaserJock> well, when I log in things are different
[10:32] <LaserJock> I don't see the submission queue anymore
[10:32] <LaserJock> and the administer section is greatly reduced
[10:33] <Burgundavia> likely somebody took some privs away from you
[10:33] <Burgundavia> let me poke
[10:34] <LaserJock> looks like it
[10:34] <LaserJock> which is fine, if that's what's needed
[10:34] <LaserJock> but it is nice to see the submission queue
[10:35] <Burgundavia> hmm, I don't see why
[10:35] <mdke> he's not an "administrator"
[10:36] <mdke> along with beuno and Madpilot
[10:36] <mdke> and popey
[10:36] <mdke> god knows how that distinction was arrived at
[10:37] <Burgundavia> I looked at access control, but I cannot figure out which of the obscurely named check boxes he woudl need
[10:37] <LaserJock> ok, so I was an administrator and now I'm not, correct?
[10:37] <Burgundavia> maybe
[10:37] <mdke> it's at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/admin/user
[10:38] <mdke> I'll make everyone an administrator until we actually have proper processes which make the distinction
[10:38] <mdke> make sense?
[10:39] <LaserJock> well, I can kinda see if you had like 50 "reporters" you'd maybe want to make a distinction
[10:39] <mdke> I think ultimately we should look to have a group of people contributing stories, and a group of editors. It will be easier to do when it's possible for anyone to post stories
[10:40] <LaserJock> exactly
[10:40] <Burgundavia> that works
[10:41] <mdke> Burgundavia: have you reviewed my changes to the planet spec?
[10:42] <Burgundavia> yep, looked at them
[10:42] <mdke> all ok?
[10:42] <Burgundavia> they look good except for one thing: clearly illegal content includes canonical employees spilling, non-canonical emplolyees spilling and other stuff
[10:43] <mdke> sorry, I don't follow
[10:44] <Burgundavia> there are two cases of concern here: illegal stuff and annoying stuff
[10:44] <Burgundavia> the latter is like the \sh issue
[10:44] <Burgundavia> the former is like the dell leak
[10:45] <mdke> yes, that's right
[10:45] <mdke> doesn't the spec say that?
[10:46] <Burgundavia> the rationale is a little bit more biased towards the "only canonical side"
[10:48] <mdke> you mean because the sentence about 1 is longer than the sentence about 2?
[10:48] <Burgundavia> no, the sentence about leaks only talks about canonical, in the rationale
[10:49] <Burgundavia> there is the very real possibility, as the commercial ecosystem grows, that it could be a system76 employee, for example
[10:49] <mdke> "or subsequently a community member"
[10:49] <mdke> ah, I'm with you now
[10:49] <Burgundavia> just changed it
[10:50] <mdke> I'm not sure it's necessary, given that planet is only open to members, I think "community members" covers it, myself
[10:50] <mdke> still, I know what you mean, at last :)
[10:51] <Burgundavia> I work for Userful. What if I break embargo and blog about something?
[10:51] <Burgundavia> how does Userful get my post off Planet Ubuntu?
[10:52] <mdke> yes, I understood
[10:53] <Burgundavia> ok, cool :)
[11:01] <LaserJock> ok, I got a story in the queue, if somebody could check it
[11:06] <Burgundavia> post meeting, yep
[11:33] <LaserJock> Burgundavia, mdke: do you guys know if \sh's post was ever removed
[11:33] <LaserJock> I believe he took it off himself, but I don't know for sure
[11:33] <mdke> yeah, corey removed his blog; \sh requested it
[11:34] <Burgundavia> I removed his blog from planet, as he requested
[11:34] <LaserJock> ok, but there wasn't any "we're removing your blog" thing
[11:34] <LaserJock> no "censorship"
[11:34] <LaserJock> I think that might be something that needs to be cleared up in this case
[11:34] <LaserJock> I get the impression that some people think Canonical took his blog away from him  or something
[11:35] <Burgundavia> no
[11:37] <LaserJock> bah, big deal over not much of anything
[11:38] <mdke> Burgundavia: did you email him about removing it from planet?
[11:38] <Burgundavia> yes, if I got his email right
[11:39] <Burgundavia> let me reemail him, because it went to his @ubuntu.com addy
[11:39] <Burgundavia> which may no longer be redirecting
[11:40] <mdke> thanks