[00:03] <Tann> filo1234: You still there?
[00:03] <filo1234> yes
[00:03] <Tann> You want to disable the bell in Konsole correct?
[00:03] <filo1234> yes but temporally
[00:04] <filo1234> i remember something with pcspkr
[00:04] <Tann> filo1234: Well, you can always just disable it then re-enable it.
[00:04] <vonkleist> DaSkreech, I'm running konversation, which has not been coded on KDE4
[00:04] <filo1234> Tann: i want disable it only for some session not for ever
[00:05] <DaSkreech> vonkleist: Umm..
[00:05] <Tann> filo1234: ok
[00:05] <DaSkreech> That has little to do with being in a KDE3 Environment :)
[00:09] <filo1234> Tann: i ca remove pcspkr module  i think
[00:10] <filo1234> can*
[00:10] <Tann> ok.
[00:10] <Tann> I was going to say you can go to the settings menu of konsole then to configure notifications.
[00:11] <Tann> and then disable the bell from there, and re-enable it when you want it again.
[00:11] <filo1234> Tann: sure but i remember wich was a command for to do it
[00:12] <Tann> oh.
[00:12] <Tann> ok
[00:17] <W8TAH> hi folks -  -can someone tell me where i can find the program kdeworldclock?  i cant seem to find it in the repos etc
[00:18] <filo1234> thanks to all bye
[00:21] <NamShub>  how can I change my kde3 settings from a kde4 environment?
[00:23] <Tann> NamShub: I think you might be able to run the command: "kcontrol"
[00:26] <DaSkreech> boubbin: I guess so
[00:26] <DaSkreech> boubbin: I know for sure there is no kubuntu-desktop-kde3
[00:27] <NamShub> kcontrol is not available in intrpid anymore
[00:29] <NamShub> the only thing that really bothers me, really, is quanta being associated with .html file.... so clicking on links in konversation (the only kde3 app i use) open quanta (the other only kde3 app I have installed, but sometimes need
[00:30] <garcia_> hola
[00:31] <vonkleist> DaSkreech, I'm not saying I'm on a KDE3 environment
[00:31] <DaSkreech> vonkleist: Ah thought that's what you were saying
[00:31] <DaSkreech> NamShub: Change the priority
[00:31] <DaSkreech> !hi | garcia_
[00:31] <NamShub> DaSkreech: yea.... where? :)
[00:32] <DaSkreech> NamShub: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> HTML
[00:33] <NamShub> DaSkreech: but theres no kde3 konqueror...
[00:34] <DaSkreech> in Ibex?
[00:35] <NamShub> yea...
[00:35] <DaSkreech> It's not shipped with kdelibs4 ?
[00:36] <NamShub> yes ii  kdelibs4c2a                                4:3.5.10-0ubuntu6
[00:37] <boubbin> interpid must suck so bad with all these new kde things...
[00:37] <boubbin> no kcontrol etc.
[00:37] <W8TAH> boubbin, na -- kubuntu is great
[00:37] <boubbin> kubuntu is great i thank god hardy is LTS no hurry to upgrade...
[00:38] <W8TAH> intrepid is great too
[00:38] <W8TAH> im in the beta and love it
[00:38] <boubbin> i think i stay in hardy and test interpid on its own partition...
[00:38] <boubbin> yeah, whats really better in there? :P
[00:38] <boubbin> changelog gives me nothing.
[00:38] <boubbin> new kernel, new xorg, i dont need those
[00:38] <W8TAH> the UI is much improved -- the graphics rendering is 50% better than kde3 -- its very smooth and easy to use
[00:39] <boubbin> yeah in kde4 ?
[00:39] <W8TAH> fusion just works
[00:39] <W8TAH> the new network manager is smooth
[00:39] <boubbin> i also hate kde4 :P
[00:39] <DaSkreech> Why?
[00:39] <W8TAH> then i am wasting my time
[00:39] <boubbin> yeah.
[00:39] <NamShub> because he hasnt run it ;)
[00:39] <DaSkreech> likely but it's instructive to knwo
[00:39] <DaSkreech> know
[00:39] <boubbin> ive tryed 4.0
[00:39] <boubbin> at t
[00:40] <boubbin> :/
[00:40] <DaSkreech> 4.0 sucked but what didn't you like?
[00:40] <boubbin> it takes like a 4year for 4.0 to get to the position 3.5* is now...
[00:40] <boubbin> but well i have to go now... see ya and hope the 4.1 is really great
[00:41] <DaSkreech> 4.2 should be nice :)
[00:41] <DaSkreech> 4.3 should be better!!
[00:41] <DaSkreech> ^_^
[00:43] <bdizzle> hi, quick question
[00:44] <DaSkreech> quick answer
[00:44] <DaSkreech> Maybe
[00:44] <bdizzle> what is the command line phrase for uploading a file over ssh to a remote computer?
[00:44] <NamShub> the new kopete is much improve (ui-wise), konqueror is smoking fast, dolphin does the job, plasma is cool, kwin effects *are* pretty, kate is soo much better now (treeview for file browser in 4.2!), konsole is still great, the games now look gorgeous, runner (alt+f2) makes so much more sense... seriously whats not to like? ;)
[00:45] <NamShub> bdizzle: sftp source_file user@server.com:/path/target
[00:45] <bdizzle> ah, thank you
[00:46] <bdizzle> um, no, is there another one?
[00:47] <bdizzle> not sure if its ssh, though I'm pretty sure it is
[00:47] <NamShub> rsync -ave ssh source target
[00:47] <pookito> Good evening everyone
[00:47] <NamShub> ooh sorry not sftp
[00:47] <NamShub> scp
[00:48] <NamShub> :P
[00:48] <bdizzle> scp
[00:48] <bdizzle> yeah
[00:48] <pookito> I know that within 8 days the servers are going to be really busy for ubuntu upgrade.  I would like to upgrade now, how can I do that?
[00:48] <bdizzle> ubuntu upgrade?
[00:48] <bdizzle> already?
[00:49] <pookito> please
[00:49] <NamShub> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[00:49] <NamShub> but there will be a lot of new packages to download until the final
[00:49] <NamShub> so Im not sure thats really a reason to upgrade now
[00:49] <NamShub> a good
[00:49] <pookito> so you are saying that I should wait a little longer?
[00:50] <pookito> not a problem
[00:50] <pookito> Thanks
[00:50] <NamShub> well its still beta
[00:50] <DaSkreech> NamShub: Have you seen QuickSand?
[00:50] <NamShub> DaSkreech: no what is it?
[00:50] <DaSkreech> pookito: YOu can do it now
[00:50] <DaSkreech> Then upgrade on Wednesday next week
[00:51] <DaSkreech> NamShub: More usable Krunner
[00:51] <pookito> Can I, I thought by now the next version was a little more stable
[00:51] <pookito> But I can wait
[00:51] <NamShub> Oh yea I think ive seen blog post... but its something you gotta try to really get the feel...
[00:52] <NamShub> its available?
[00:52] <pookito> gotcha
[00:52] <pookito> ;-)
[00:54] <DaSkreech> pookito: It's stable but they do tweaks so you get lots of new packages
[00:54] <DaSkreech> should slow down massively from tonight
[00:54] <pookito> understood
[01:02] <DaSkreech> NamShub: why do you need A KDE 3 konqueror
[01:02] <NamShub> I dont need a kde3 konqueror. I just want to alter kde3 settings
[01:02] <NamShub> konversation (kde3) opens links in quanta
[01:03] <NamShub> this is annoying (and makes no sense...)
[01:03] <bdizzle> what is the shortuct for renaming a file?
[01:03] <NamShub> F2
[01:03] <bdizzle> no, on CLI
[01:03] <NamShub> mv :)
[01:03] <bdizzle> thanks
[01:06] <bdizzle> and to pull up processes list?
[01:07] <NamShub> top
[01:07] <NamShub> ps
[01:09] <bdizzle> k
[01:09] <bdizzle> I'm slowly trying to re-learn what I learned of command line over the summer
[01:09] <NamShub> print a cheat sheet
[01:10] <bdizzle> heh, pretty much
[01:11] <DaSkreech> !commands
[01:13] <bdizzle> and what is the command line name for OpenOffice Spreadsheet?
[01:14] <bdizzle> oocalc?
[01:18] <arrrghhh> so i installed intrepid.  it seems pretty polished, but system settings doesn't run at all.  how do i manually run it in the konsole so i can see what's wrong?
[01:19] <NamShub> systemsettings
[01:20] <bdizzle> when we upgrade to intrepid, do all of the settings automatically migrate, or do you have to do a fresh install?
[01:20] <bdizzle> I remember having problems with Hardy where it only gave me a partial install over Gutsy and I had to wipe and restart
[01:25] <arrrghhh> bdizzle, they migrate for the most part.  depends on the settings i guess.
[01:25] <arrrghhh> nvm
[01:26] <arrrghhh> NamShub, says i don't have it installed...?
[01:26] <arrrghhh> there's kde-systemsettings and just systemsettings.  i don't understand how i don't have a vital component such as system settings.  the menu entry is there, but it does not run.
[01:27] <NamShub> weird. try reinstaling the package..?
[01:28] <arrrghhh> i'm assuming the package i want is systemsettings instead of kde-systemsettings?
[01:29] <NamShub> probably (i dont have kde-systemsettings installed and everything works fine)
[01:29] <NamShub> ii  systemsettings                       4:4.1.2-0ubuntu11                    KDE 4 System Settings
[01:30] <arrrghhh> i don't get it.  i can run systemsettings from the terminal now, but system settings link in the favorites menu still doesn't work.  this is mind boggling.
[01:31] <arrrghhh> hrm.  works from the computer menu.  perhaps the link in favorites menu is borked.
[01:39] <freeksh0w86> Where does Kate store its syntax files globally (not per-user)?
[01:40] <freeksh0w86> oh wait i found it :/
[01:43] <mike-solidus> hey, guys, i installed apache2 and php5 but i don't think php is bieng loaded in apache, how can i check?
[01:48] <NamShub> create an index.php with <? phpinfo(); ?>
[01:50] <dennister> howdy all...having trouble installing hardy with alternate cd, and sincerely believe it's a problem with the 40G laptop drive, although w2k installed fine on first 10G of it
[01:50] <dennister> does anyone know what DRDY means?
[02:04] <vit> bghgggbf
[02:04] <vit> holacomo
[02:04] <vit> vghhfjgyg
[02:05] <vit> kjloppopooppppppoooo[ooooo
[02:05] <dr_willis> cat on the keyboard...?
[02:06] <NamShub> or head banging? ;)
[02:19] <dennister> dr_willis: do you know anything about this DRDY issue? what it means, for instance? I did google it, found ppl r were having this prob with hardy and not other versions, but I'm having it with gutsy's alternative cd too
[02:20] <dr_willis> DRDY? Never heard of ti.
[02:21] <dennister> can't seem to install because of it...stops at 33% of file system creation
[02:22] <dr_willis> This is on 8.04 or 8.10 ?
[02:22] <dennister> it was 8.04.1, but now there's the same problem with 7.1
[02:24] <dennister> someone gave me a pentium 3 laptop, which was a lot better than my old p2 tecra, so I added more ram, swapped the hdd for a 40G one someone else had given me, installed the w2k no problem...
[02:26] <dennister> is the swap area raw disk space?
[02:26] <dr_willis> swap partition is a specific partition,
[02:27] <dr_willis> you use the mkswap command onit to 'format' it as swap space
[02:28] <dennister> dr_willis: yes, i know its a specific partition, but I was wondering how it was formatted, if at all
[02:29] <dr_willis> its formated as swap :)
[02:30] <dennister> ok...no way does this installation want to create any filesystem in this space...not even swap
[02:31] <ubuntu__> =)
[02:33] <Wharfedale> Hi there
[02:33] <Wharfedale> Anyone good with graphics problems, cant get my Geforce 2 mx 440se
[02:33] <Wharfedale> working on kde4
[02:34] <keanne> I just tried kubuntu, and is konqueror freezing when browsing youtube a known problem? what is the fix for this? im using kubuntu 8.04 LTS
[02:36] <dennister> BluesKaj: hey there :)
[02:36] <BluesKaj> hi dennister, how goes it ?
[02:37] <dennister> BluesKaj: well, better now that I've got a lawyer to deal with the appeal, and I can get back to my pc-rebuilding :)
[02:38] <dennister> a friend gave me a pentium3 laptop last night, and I'm having trouble installing *ubuntu
[02:39] <BluesKaj> dennister,  appeal ?
[02:39] <dennister> yeah...i got evicted "for own use" (no fault type) because of their lies that I can now prove, so I'm appealing it
[02:40] <BluesKaj> ok
[02:40] <dennister> 3 lawyers and legal aid have all agreed that I got railroaded :(
[02:40] <dennister> anyway...back to computers :)
[02:40] <BluesKaj> right  :)
[02:41] <dennister> u ever seen DRDY messages before when trying to install?
[02:41] <dennister> i have no idea what that means
[02:46] <nejode> dennister: I've had similar problem with P3 motherboards, sis and intel chipsets
[02:48] <barb> i need to know how to open a port through a "windstream" dsl modem ?
[02:48] <dennister> well, from my googling, DRDY errors are related to hdd's, and now, while trying to restore the mbr with my w2k disk, i've just been told there is no hard drive at all!
[02:49] <dennister> heheheh, i think it became loose from the connection, as it just started a low rattle
[02:50] <dennister> nejode: i like p3s myself, take up way less in terms of resources
[02:50] <dennister> anyway, bbs...gotta go to the other room where my screwdrivers are
[02:51] <barb> anyone ?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> barb, modem or router ...most modems don't have port options
[02:54] <genii> She left already
[02:54] <dennister> genii: :)
[02:54] <marcio> hlo, need help to connect kopeye do msn protocol, i,e, it does not connect!
[02:54] <genii> Hi dennister
[02:54] <dennister> do u know why DRDY errors are?
[02:55] <genii> dennister: No, but they don't sound good
[02:55] <BluesKaj> yeah din't notice til after I hit enter
[02:55] <nejode> dennister: those errors come mostly because a module is not being loaded...
[02:55] <marcio> pls, why kopete does not connect?
[02:56] <dennister> great...put it in more firmly and now i'm getting bios parameter errors
[02:56] <genii> marcio: Are you using some firewall software?
[02:56] <marcio> no one! direct!
[02:56] <genii> dennister: I think I'd toss that drive, sounds flakey
[02:56] <nejode> piix in intels and ide_generic, ide_disk,ide_cd in SIS
[02:56] <dennister> nejode: a module is never going to load if the OS isn't even isntalled yet
[02:57] <genii> marcio: Please have patience. If someone knows how to assist you, they will
[02:57] <dennister> genii: yes, I think ur right
[02:57] <marcio> tks!
[02:58] <marcio> To depict the problem: Firefox is navigating, so as this IRC and skype...
[02:58] <dennister> well, i do have the original drive that came with the laptop...it's only 12G, so that's why I swapped it for this 40g one
[02:58] <dennister> back to the screwdriver room....
[02:58] <nejode> Sorry, but the kernel needs to load modules that are needed to be able to talk to the disk
[02:58] <marcio> kopete and other msn protocol software simple do not log on!
[02:59] <genii> marcio: Is it asking you for a Kwallet password at all?
[03:00] <marcio> yes, it did once, and ...
[03:00] <nejode> dennister: but if you already know the problem, go ahead
[03:00] <marcio> ... operation not suported on logon
[03:01] <genii> marcio: You put for your full hotmail or msn  email address as your account name?
[03:01] <marcio> yes i did
[03:02] <powertool08>  does anyone know how to connect to wpa networks via cli?
[03:03] <dennister> i guess i didn't waste my time installing w2k + all updates on original drive before swapping it after all :)
[03:04] <gustavo> alguien habla español
[03:04] <dennister> now i just have to shrink that 12G partition down to 2G and I'll still have room for kubuntu, heheheh
[03:04] <genii> marcio: In Settings...Configure...Behaviour... You have the box beside "Connect automatically at startup" checked off?
[03:05] <marcio> thanks genii, will try it now
[03:05] <gustavo> alguien me puede sacar dudas de kubuntu
[03:05] <dennister> genii's the best...
[03:06] <powertool08> !es > gustavo
[03:06] <marcio> genii, its checked off
[03:06] <genii> marcio: OK.
[03:07] <genii> !es | gustavo
[03:07] <marcio> I guess it means manual connect
[03:07] <genii> powertool08: Apologies, did not see your same instruction to them
[03:07] <powertool08> genii: np
[03:08] <via> testing
[03:08] <DarkTan> hmm, od.
[03:08] <powertool08> !test | via
[03:08]  * shibz tested
[03:08] <powertool08> :)
[03:08] <genii> marcio: I don't normally use Kopete but have just set up my msn identity on it now for testing and seems to connect all right.
[03:08] <DarkTan> I have an issue, during install, the software install failed. i now have a text ubuntu os
[03:09] <DarkTan> how do i got about getting KDE?
[03:09] <genii> marcio: Unfortunately I do not know the intricacies of it enough to effectively help you, other than what I have already suggested
[03:09] <powertool08> DarkTan: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <genii> DarkTan: First however do: sudo apt-get update
[03:09] <DarkTan> that will get to where it would had the install not failed?
[03:10] <genii> DarkTan: The install wants the CD, the package manager will use the internet to get it
[03:10] <DarkTan> ok
[03:10] <marcio> thanks, genii, my other notebook worked fine too, cant mean what s happening to this one... maybe the 64bit thing...
[03:11] <genii> marcio: Perhaps try install package     ia32-libs                 it allows many 32 bit applications to work properly under 64bit install
[03:11] <genii> Firefox for instance
[03:11] <marcio> ops! that s new
[03:12] <marcio> wil try now
[03:12] <DarkTan> update didn't do anything, and installing "kubuntu-dekstop" asks for the cd
[03:12] <DarkTan> is this normal?
[03:13] <genii> powertool08: As far as I understand you need wlassistant. Then you can use something like iwconfig to issue the actual connection command
[03:14] <genii> DarkTan: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list                then put a # before the line which has the cdrom entry. Then hit ctrl-x to exit, Y when asked to save changes and Enter key for same name to save it as. Then reissue the two commands previously given.
[03:15] <powertool08> genii: thanks, you wouldn't happen to know if iwlist/iwconfig + wpa_supplicant is still the preferred connection method or if something newer/better is out would you?
[03:16] <genii> powertool08: Offhand no idea
[03:16] <DarkTan> um, well it's at 80% installing from the CD right now
[03:16] <DarkTan> make that 90
[03:16] <genii> DarkTan: Well, might succeed yet then
[03:16] <DarkTan> i have been having strange issues lately
[03:16] <DarkTan> like the kernal panic last time
[03:17] <DarkTan> also: i did a complete install with no problems to a SCSI drive on a PCI SCSI card, when booting, i kept getting "No OS found."
[03:17] <DarkTan> could the fact that is is a Hot Swap PCI card from an old server?
[03:18] <genii> DarkTan: PErhaps your SCSI adapter is set to boot to a different SCSI ID number than the one to which you installed the system or grub to
[03:18] <DarkTan> well, there is only one drive
[03:19] <DarkTan> meh, whatever
[03:19] <DarkTan> can i remote control kubuntu from a windows PC?
[03:20] <genii> DarkTan: With the Seagate adapters you can usually use ctrl-A to gain the bios and check settings that way
[03:20] <DarkTan> yeah, I went through everything in there, couldn't get it to boot
[03:20] <DarkTan> yanked it, installed to IDE
[03:20] <DarkTan> 100gb is good enough for now
[03:21] <DarkTan> I fiddle with it later, or use it to fix my other server that won't allow an install
[03:21] <genii> DarkTan: Is the drive terminated?
[03:21] <DarkTan> i think so, it was working in the computer i took it out of, and would ty to boot to windows before i formatted it
[03:22] <genii> eg: Does it have the SCSI terminating resistors on it, or the cable which attaches it has another plug past it which has a SCSI terminator plugged into it
[03:23] <genii> Holy netsplit batman
[03:24] <coreymon77> weeeee!
[03:24] <DarkTan> indeed
[03:24] <DarkTan> it has the term on a connector just past the drive
[03:24] <coreymon77> WEEEEEEEEEEEE!
[03:24] <coreymon77> netsplits are fun!
[03:25] <mchris> Hello there.. I hage gparted open and look like to get help resizing partions
[03:26] <DarkTan> hmmm....it unpacked a whole lotta crap, and then went to a black screen
[03:26] <DarkTan> nvm, screen saver
[03:26] <DarkTan> didn't know it had one
[03:28] <martin_> hi, Im having issues, while using nvidia-settings, I cant save my Xconfig
[03:28] <coreymon77> yay! another netsplit!
[03:29]  * coreymon77 accidentally pressed the netsplit button again
[03:29] <DarkTan> ok, went throgh the whole unpacking process, got one error at the end
[03:30] <\Kira> Grid Wars2's sound doesnt work unless im running compiz, but when I run compiz the superkaramba and kbfx apps flicker in and out making gameplay difficult and graphics annoying, but the game just isnt that entertaining without the sounds to match the flashy lights :) Any help?
[03:30] <DarkTan> Sub process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:31] <DarkTan> well, lets see if it works, How do i start the desktop from the command line?
[03:31] <genii> DarkTan: Further up in the scroll may be a better clue to exact failure
[03:32] <genii> DarkTan: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start                              or if kde4    then kdm-kde4
[03:32] <DarkTan> i can't scroll
[03:32] <genii> DarkTan: shift-pageup    usually in console does it
[03:32] <JoseBravo> All my GTK applications in KDE, including FireFox appears very ugly. How can I fix that?
[03:32] <DarkTan> crap, got a ton of errors
[03:33] <DarkTan> gonna try that other thing you said
[03:34] <genii> DarkTan: Want me to repost it?
[03:34] <DarkTan> i got it
[03:34] <genii> OK
[03:34] <genii> DarkTan: You have internet connectivity on the box yet?
[03:34] <DarkTan> i get "nano: command not found"
[03:35] <DarkTan> i think so, it went throgh the network setup during the install
[03:35] <genii> Hm
[03:36] <DarkTan> ya know this thing is kinda old, how might i install Xfce?
[03:36] <genii> DarkTan: nano should be on the cd. Try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nano              then the other instruction from before
[03:36] <martin_> hi, Im having issues, while using nvidia-settings, I cant save my Xconfig
[03:37] <DarkTan> update is not checking the internet, only the CD
[03:41] <genii> DarkTan: Since nano should be able to install from cd hopefully we can get it then proceed to use it from there to edit the file
[03:42] <genii> Likely vi is there but a pain for new users
[03:42] <powertool08> genii: vi isn't too terrible, I taught my classmate today and he was able to edit, save and quit within 10 minutes without problems
[03:42] <DarkTan> ok, will try, but might fall asleep before nano fnishes
[03:44] <powertool08> genii: I'm a recent vi convert myself, I was wondering why backspace works on some machines and on others it gives me ^?
[03:44] <genii> powertool08: I think it's one of those settings in bashrc
[03:45] <nelsonstreet> Does anyone know exactly what the lowest ram is need for Kubuntu?
[03:45] <WTW1> how do I work out what MTA is installed in kbuntu 8.10?
[03:45] <gcontrer> WTW1, the default MTA installed on Ubuntu is postfix
[03:45] <genii> It's usually exim and sendmail by default
[03:45] <gcontrer> uh?
[03:45] <gcontrer> :P
[03:46] <WTW1> gcontrer thanks.  that makes my life easier
[03:46] <nelsonstreet> Can I install Kubuntu on a machine with just 64 megs of ram
[03:46] <nelsonstreet> Its an old laptop I got here
[03:46] <gcontrer> genii, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[03:46] <dennister> genii: I'm still serious about getting that pxe install server going, hopefully with your help, but I'm going to wait a few weeks until intrepid comes out, possibly hose the one server I have left with intrepid (have everything transferred now, so no biggy), and start from scratch
[03:47] <WTW1> I'm also having a problem with static ip on eth0.  I've edited the interfaces file but the machine keeps grabing a dhcp address and I have no idea why.
[03:47] <gcontrer> nelsonstreet, I think you *can* install it, if you don't install KDE on it... :P
[03:47] <powertool08> genii: ok, i'll check that out, thanks
[03:48] <\Kira> Grid Wars2's sound doesnt work unless im running compiz, but when I run compiz the superkaramba and kbfx apps flicker in and out making gameplay difficult and graphics annoying, but the game just isnt that entertaining without the sounds to match the flashy lights :) Any help?
[03:48] <gcontrer> WTW1, post your interfaces file on paste.ubuntu.com
[03:49] <dennister> nelsonstreet: I agree with gcontrer;  it's going to be difficult because kde is the biggest pig for ram memory needs
[03:49] <vonkleist> nelsonstreet, may be you can go for ubuntu+windowmaker :P
[03:49] <vonkleist> I think xfce will not do better there...
[03:50] <dennister> you might want to start off with xfce/xubuntu first
[03:50] <genii> vonkleist: I am corrected on default MTA, apologies
[03:50] <nelsonstreet> I think I will just grade to more ram in it, I found another stic k of 128
[03:50] <WTW1> gcont http://paste.ubuntu.com/61327/
[03:50] <dennister> nelsonstreet: much better :)
[03:51] <dennister> although kde really wants 256...xfce is still a good starting point
[03:51] <nelsonstreet> Thanks I will try that
[03:51] <CYREX> who here has tried the new kde 4.1.2 and what does he/she think about memory/cpu usage. On another note, who loves to stick with kde 3.5.10 rather than 4.x.x
[03:51] <WTW1> is postfix installed by default or do I need to install it first?  Also, does anyone know where to find instructions to set it up to use a forward relay?  I have to deposit my mail in to my ISPs smtp server.
[03:52] <vonkleist> WTW1, I got to go... maybe someone else can help you...
[03:52] <nelsonstreet> I have and personally I thought it was a bug bag OS
[03:52] <vonkleist> WTW1, no daemons are installed by default on ubuntu
[03:52] <nelsonstreet> 4.1.2 that is
[03:52] <vonkleist> you have to install them
[03:52] <vonkleist> sudo apt-get install postfix
[03:52] <vonkleist> sudo kate /etc/postfix/main.cf
[03:52] <WTW1> vonkleist thanks
[03:53] <vonkleist> look for the relay_host line and set it up according to what you need
[03:53] <vonkleist> given you don't need any authentication stuff
[03:53] <dennister> i prefer 3.5 too, but the kde team want to stop supporting 3.5, so we might as well get used to 4x
[03:53] <BluesKaj> I upgraded from 1 to 2G memory ...seems a bit faster
[03:54] <martin_> i must be doing something wrong since i see no difference
[03:54] <dennister> installing the kernels always seems to take a long time :(
[03:54] <WTW1> vonkleist thanks.  I'm already using postfix on my clarkconnect box to do the same thing so i should be right.  I just didn't know what I was looking for on the conf file as I use a gui on cc to configure the mta.
[03:56] <WTW1> vonkleist what do you think of that interface file?  I can't see any problems in it personally
[03:56] <vonkleist> WTW1, I neither
[03:56] <vonkleist> Maybe you have another process sending dhcp packets
[03:56] <WTW1> vonkleist crap... that wasn't the answer I was looking for ;)
[03:57] <WTW1> vonkleist all I've done so far is the basic install.  I can't think what wold be firing off a dhcp request
[03:57] <WTW1> vonkleist I did use the alternative iso though.  I wanted raid1
[03:57] <DarkTan> i have only one line in the sources, the CD drive
[03:57] <vonkleist> Got to go... good luck on that...
[03:58] <WTW1> thanks for ya help
[03:58] <DarkTan> any way to test my net connection?
[03:58] <usuario> hola
[03:59] <elvira> hola
[03:59] <genii> !es | elvira
[03:59] <elvira> hello
[03:59] <elvira> i need to put my cam
[04:01] <genii> !webcam
[04:01] <dennister> DarkTan: your installation has serious problems if you only have one item in sources.list and nano isn't even installed
[04:01] <rmiranda> hi
[04:01] <genii> elvira: Have you tried the websites which the bot suggests, above?
[04:02] <dennister> nano is standard, comes with the base installation, so I'm wondering if it's even worth your time to try and complete this installation
[04:02] <martin_> Is there a way to know what kde version you have.
[04:03] <DarkTan> well nano is installed now
[04:03] <DarkTan> i had a error at the "Installing Software" stage
[04:03] <favro> open any app and click about martin_
[04:04] <seektherapy> CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH THIS
[04:04] <DarkTan> well, i try my xubuntu CD tommorow, right now: sleep.
[04:04] <DarkTan> thanks for the help
[04:04] <genii> seektherapy: Please,not all in uppercase! Also you have not yet stated what your issue is
[04:04] <martin_> it only tells me what version of kubuntu i have, i want to know if KDE 4.1.2 was installed succesfuly
[04:05] <CYREX> @Martin - Just open any application for Kde then find the about of it
[04:05] <seektherapy> genii yes i did
[04:05] <CYREX> tipically the about of any kde app will tell you 2 things, one the version of the app and two the version of the kde
[04:05] <seektherapy> about 3 hours ago
[04:06] <seektherapy> and since then i have been trying to figure this out
[04:06] <genii> seektherapy: Please restate your issue so that those who have arrived in the past 3 hours may see if they can assist with it
[04:06] <martin_> ok i dont get it i installed kde 4.1.2 but it still say 3.5.9
[04:06] <genii> martin_: You need to explicity choose kde4 as your session type when logging in
[04:07] <seektherapy> sure....I am using kubuntu and my audio driver isnt working
[04:08] <genii> seektherapy: Please report the reulst of the command in Konsole of:  lspci | grep Audio
[04:08] <seektherapy> huh
[04:09] <mr---t-> he meant results
[04:09] <genii> seektherapy: Open up the application which is called Konsole. Then in the application window of Konsole, type in:   lspci | grep Audio                 and then tell us here what it says to you
[04:11] <martin_> genii: I only have 3 choice default(previous), KDE witch i used but still loging in KDE3, and failsafe
[04:12] <seektherapy> trying to find it
[04:12] <seektherapy> i am new to linux
[04:12] <genii> martin_: Did you restart kdm since you did the kde4 install?
[04:13] <seektherapy> and i am leaning more towards windows after this
[04:13] <genii> seektherapy: Kmenu button ... System...Konsole
[04:13] <martin_> genii: yes i installed last week
[04:13] <genii> seektherapy: Whichever operating system you use is up to you. Linux is not for everyone
[04:14] <seektherapy> i found this during my 3 hour wait
[04:14] <seektherapy> http://connect.creativelabs.com/linux/Lists/Driver Issues/AllItems.aspx
[04:14] <genii> martin_: By something like:   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop                 or some other method?
[04:14] <guille> hi!
[04:14] <martin_> genii: i used adept manager
[04:15] <guille> I have just install kde 4.1.2 and I start trying to get a lot of eye candy into it =)
[04:15] <genii> seektherapy: That url seems to be giving me a 404 error. However, you have some Soundblaster card?
[04:15] <guille> I got a little problem thougn, I can't no longer resize any window. is that a know problem?
[04:16] <genii> martin_: Hmm. Does: apt-cache policy kubuntu-kde4-desktop                        show it as installed?
[04:16] <martin_> seektherapy: are you trying to install soundblaster with linux?
[04:16] <seektherapy> i dont have konsole
[04:16] <Agent_bob> i need an ssh guru to tell me what will cause this error message: ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 12222: Connection refused    ?
[04:17] <Agent_bob> doesn't that mean that the box is "just saying NO"
[04:17] <genii> seektherapy: Do you see another application called "Terminal" ?
[04:17] <martin_> genii: no iit dont, guess ill use apt-get
[04:17] <powertool08> Agent_bob: did you use -vvv it gives debug info and will tell you where the connection fails
[04:18] <Agent_bob> powertool08 good call.
[04:18] <seektherapy> yes an i am in it and it tells me
[04:18] <seektherapy> seektherapy@seektherapy-desktop:/$
[04:18] <seektherapy> i used the command you gave me and nothing
[04:18] <guille> basically, I want to use compiz with kde-4.1.2; so far I got 2 problems when getting compiz to work with kde: windows can't be resized and the windows decoration is fixed to plastik ( even when ozone is selected )
[04:18] <genii> seektherapy: OK. You are using regular Ubuntu then and not Kubuntu. But aside from this. What does:     lspci | grep Audio                             tell you?
[04:19] <Agent_bob> powertool08 problem is that the output doesn't change much.
[04:19] <powertool08> guille: There is a resize option in ccsm that has to be checked to resize windows
[04:19] <powertool08> Agent_bob: pastebin?
[04:19] <genii> seektherapy: OK, no result then from that command, just a return to command prompt?
[04:20] <Agent_bob> powertool08 i can post in here. only three lines.
[04:20] <guille> powertool08: thanks! I'll check it now
[04:20] <seektherapy> yes
[04:20] <powertool08> Agent_bob: ok
[04:20] <Agent_bob> debug1: Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> [<IP_ADDRESS>] port 12222.
[04:20] <Agent_bob> debug1: connect to address <IP_ADDRESS> port 12222: Connection refused
[04:20] <Agent_bob> ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 12222: Connection refused
[04:21] <powertool08> Agent_bob: did you use all three v's? ie: ssh -vvv user@host gives more info than ssh -v user@host
[04:21] <Agent_bob> yep
[04:21] <Agent_bob> but the output is same with -vv and -vvv
[04:21] <mr---t-> Agent_bob heya:
[04:21] <genii> Agent_bob: You specified in /etc/ssh/sshd_config               the port as 12222               and restarted the ssh server?
[04:21] <Agent_bob> mr---t-
[04:22] <Agent_bob> genii yes
[04:22] <genii> Agent_bob: ssh localhost -p 12222                  works?
[04:22] <Agent_bob> genii yes
[04:22] <guille> powertool08: yeap... that did the trick =) thanks!
[04:22] <seektherapy> so genii i am assuming you dont know either
[04:22] <Agent_bob> also the refusel is instant.
[04:23] <powertool08> guille: np
[04:23] <genii> seektherapy: OK. I am a bit distributed but still trying to assist you. 1 minute
[04:23] <martin_> yay it works now
[04:23] <powertool08> Agent_bob: which form of authentication are you using?
[04:24] <genii> seektherapy: The pastebin is a website to post large txt to. Please run in Terminal:   lspci                             and then highlight with the mouse the output,right click to copy it, then put in pastebin website and give here the URL it tells you. Then we can see what devices you have there and what might be the issue.
[04:24] <genii> !pastebin | seektherapy
[04:24] <DaSkreech> nelsonstreet: #fluxbuntu :)
[04:24] <elvira> pleaseeeeee
[04:25] <bAgent_bo> the ip keeps changing.
[04:25] <marcio> Hi room...anyone available to help a confused rookie?
[04:25] <bAgent_bo> each time i get kicked off irc like that.  the ip changes
[04:25] <powertool08> bAgent_bo: huh?
[04:25] <bAgent_bo> powertool08 what's my ip   changes.
[04:26] <martin_> anyone knows anything about nvidia-setting
[04:26] <genii> elvira: You were kicked from channel for flooding. Put what you were trying to copy into here into a pastebin instead and then tell us the URL it gives you. The pastebin address is given above by the ubottu
[04:26] <guille> powertool08: do you know why when activating compiz on kde with desktop-effects-kde4 then the window decoration falls back to "plastik" and doesn't stick with the previously selected one ( "ozone" )
[04:26] <bAgent_bo> powertool08 you did get my reply "it doesn't get to any form of auth"  ?
[04:27] <powertool08> guille: no, sorry, I don't use compiz
[04:27] <powertool08> bAgent_bo: do you have the denyhosts daemon running?
[04:27] <bAgent_bo> powertool08 no.  dont think so.
[04:28] <genii> marcio: Still kopete is not connecting to msn?
[04:28] <powertool08> bAgent_bo: I've had it block my ip, check /etc/hosts.deny and if delete it if its there
[04:28] <marcio> having plenty of trouble on my Toshiba A215 AMD64 using kubuntu amd64.....anyone
[04:28] <guille> powertool08: mmm... you use the built-in desktop effects of kde4?
[04:28] <bAgent_bo> powertool08 hosts.deny is blank
[04:28] <marcio> hi genii: nope....not working yet...
[04:29] <marcio> and this is not my main concearn right now...
[04:29] <deftone> marcio: Use amsn
[04:29] <powertool08> guille: I just use boring kde 3.5.10, I've changed the window decorations but nothing fancy, I'm trying to transition to a tiling window manager actually
[04:29] <martin_> can some one tell me how to be able to save my xconf in nvidia-settings?
[04:30] <genii> seektherapy: Still with us?
[04:30] <bAgent_bo> powertool08 any more thoughts on this ?
[04:30] <powertool08> bAgent_bo: I'm thinking but I'm not really a guru
[04:30] <nelsonstreet> macro : I have a compaq 800mhz amd 64 here I am no now
[04:30] <marcio> deftone: Ive tried amsn, emesene and even joose.
[04:30] <DaSkreech> elvira: Pretty
[04:31] <nelsonstreet> runs very good
[04:31] <marcio> hey nelson:
[04:31] <nelsonstreet> yup
[04:31] <seektherapy> it wont let me paste the damn code
[04:32] <marcio> got all your drivers to work properly?
[04:32] <DaSkreech> seektherapy: Just highlight it with the mouse then you can middle click to paste it
[04:32] <seektherapy> I did
[04:32] <nelsonstreet> yeah and the video, wifi everything works great
[04:32] <seektherapy> something is not right with my machine
[04:32] <nelsonstreet> But java is still a problem
[04:32] <genii> seektherapy: You can also try rightclick...paste    method
[04:32] <powertool08> Agent_bob: maybe change your sshd_config to the most basic config without any authentican and if that works add security back one step at a time?
[04:33] <Agent_bob> powertool08 but that would affect ssh localhost too would it not. and localhost is fine.
[04:33] <marcio> damn...I have no wi-fi (atheros 5007), no mic, no bluetooh, and my ethernet adapter is working with a different driver..
[04:34] <marcio> and still havent test the webcam
[04:34] <DaSkreech> seektherapy: does lshw -C Audio give you anything ?
[04:35] <powertool08> Agent_bob: Could it be a firewall blocking it?
[04:35] <Agent_bob> there is something about the "remote ip"/isp that is throwing the error.
[04:35] <Agent_bob> powertool08 if it is it's not local.
[04:35] <nelsonstreet> oh the webcam err not working here either
[04:35] <guille> powertool08: I guess that will be Window Maker? I like very much KDE4 even when I end up using most of the time konsole =)
[04:36] <nelsonstreet> I tried both usb and firewire cams neither worked
[04:36] <genii> Agent_bob: The machine running sshd has an external IP ?
[04:36] <powertool08> guille: window maker?
[04:37] <guille> powertool08: well, isn't window maker a window manager that provides tiling?
[04:37] <guille> powertool08: or what do you mean with tiling?
[04:37] <marcio> nelson: its a shame, got a supposed "great machine". It was supposed to make me happy.....LOL
[04:37] <bAgent_bo> genii kubuntu.boxen---adsl.modem---world
[04:38] <seektherapy> genii: for some reason my browser isnt working like it did in ubuntu ..i am using konqyeror
[04:38] <seektherapy> konqueror
[04:38] <DaSkreech> seektherapy: Use Firefox then?
[04:38] <Agent_bob> genii and as you may have guessed that was another isp side reset of some kind,  my ip just changed again.
[04:38] <CYREX> firefox sucks
[04:38] <seektherapy> How
[04:38] <CYREX> use internet explorer
[04:39] <genii> Agent_bob: I had a weird similar before which required modem to be in bridged mode with an intermediate router
[04:39] <marcio> at least someone knows how to make grub to recognize a different OS prevously installed?
[04:39] <CYREX> lol  Joking
[04:39] <nelsonstreet> macrio: at least its not win****
[04:39] <DaSkreech> seektherapy: Are you in KDE now?
[04:39] <CYREX> @Marcio - If you have not yet removed the previously installed partition then you can still detect it
[04:39] <genii> CYREX: If you have Kubuntu tech support question please ask it. Don't rant in ere, etc
[04:39] <powertool08> guille: is window maker a tiling manager? I'm using awesome on my laptop. instead of having different windows you can drag around and cover others up with, when you do a certain key combo, it splits the screen in half into 2 terminals, then splits one terminal in half into 3 total across the screen and so on, so nothing is covered
[04:39] <seektherapy> i think so
[04:40] <marcio> nelson: sure it is not..but Iḿ still sadly linked to that desaster for a while,,
[04:40] <DaSkreech> seektherapy: What happens when you press Alt+Space ?
[04:40] <Agent_bob> genii but could you irc through it? and surf the web?  and update the system?   i'm doing all of that.  just can't ssh
[04:40] <CYREX> @Genii - Am helping several people via private messages and while you have noticed that a lot come with frustrations in here every once in a while a joke is good
[04:40] <seektherapy> an icon appears
[04:40] <guille> powertool08: well... that sounds very interesting
[04:41] <marcio> Cyrex:can you pls tell me how do I find it on grub?
[04:41] <genii> Agent_bob: Specifically in this case... everything but ssh and the voip based telephones worked. Putting the router inbetween somehow worked for this (on advice of the tech support from the voip company)
[04:41] <seektherapy> katapult
[04:41] <genii> CYREX: Ok, yer forgiven :) Just looked like trolling at first
[04:41] <DaSkreech> seektherapy: ok type adept when it comes up and press enter
[04:41] <CYREX> @genii - Thank you hehe, np buddy
[04:41] <DaSkreech> SHould ask for your password
[04:42] <Agent_bob> genii recall howto ?
[04:42] <seektherapy> ok
[04:43] <seektherapy> in there
[04:43] <Agent_bob> genii i just examined the adsl modem again, it has one switch.  power on/off   ;/
[04:43] <powertool08> guille: here is a youtube video of xmonad, its similar to awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZAmMdRBRjs&feature=related
[04:44] <genii> Agent_bob: This modem was a Speedtouch 510, it had in web gui the option for bridged mode. Then the router was some cheap Dynex or so. Used it to do the pppoe login to ISP. Then assigned by MAC same internal IP to server and forwarded 22 to it
[04:44] <Agent_bob> windstream here ;/
[04:44] <nelsonstreet> SMC static here
[04:45] <genii> Agent_bob: Has some web control panel?
[04:48] <martin_> how can i change my Xorg.conf
[04:49] <martin_> im sick of changing witch screen comes on when i boot in linux
[04:49] <powertool08> martin_: edit it with kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf or other preferred editor
[04:49] <Mike804> I have a sound issue anyone good with HDA intel or tascam USB?
[04:49] <genii> !intelhda
[04:50] <genii> bAgent_bo: Man, yer having terrible connection probs
[04:50] <powertool08> martin_: You might want to make a backup copy before changing it, could leave you in a totally command line environment if something gets messed up
[04:50] <Agent_bob> genii yeah
[04:50] <george> Is there a Ubuntu/Kubuntu client optimized for gaming (running the least possible crap, bare minimum as processes are concerned.)
[04:50] <martin_> powertool08: Im going to use what nvidia-settings wants to write but can't for some reason
[04:51] <genii> george: These are games you're running in wine or native linux games?
[04:51] <dennister> all done: kubuntu gutsy installed with dual boot on a compaq armada e500 :) and on a tiny 12G hdd
[04:51] <Agent_bob> genii i'm expecting that the isp is "krap"  anything that starts with "win" throws red flags...
[04:51] <genii> Agent_bob: hehe, true
[04:51] <george> Included basic preinstalled applications (email client, I.M. Client, web client) none of the un-needed software
[04:51] <george> genii> both mostly native linux
[04:52] <DaSkreech> george: That would be failsafe on the Login Prompt
[04:52] <Mike804> can someone walk me through getting sound?  Otherwise I may as wekk dump Ubuntu
[04:52] <Mike804> can someone walk me through getting sound?   Have you tried yet the instructions for your Intel HDA adapter that the bot had suggested, above?
[04:53] <DaSkreech> !sound
[04:54] <Mike804> Genii: I would love to - but I am not even advanced enough to understand them
[04:54] <Mike804> !sound
[04:55] <nelsonstreet> Yeah that sound fix worked great for me
[04:55] <genii> Mike804: The webpage is fairly straight forward in it's instructions. Perhaps try, and then if you are having problems, ask here how to do the next step it requires, until you are done
[04:55] <genii> !intelhda | Mike804
[04:56] <martin_> powertool08: how do i backup?
[04:56] <Mike804> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument
[04:57] <DaSkreech> !backup
[04:57] <Mike804> I get that error testing all sound
[04:57] <DaSkreech> >_<
[04:57] <Mike804> How can I tell what version of ALSA I have -
[04:57] <powertool08> martin_: just make a copy "cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak"
[04:57] <martin_> DaSkreech: not my system, I want to backup my xorg
[04:58] <DaSkreech> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/orig.xorg.conf.bak
[04:58] <powertool08> martin_: throw a sudo on the front of that or it will fail
[04:59] <martin_> thats what i thought
[04:59] <DaSkreech> powertool08: Mine works :)
[04:59] <powertool08> Or you can use DaSkreech's method, mine puts it in the same place as the original, DaSkreech's puts it in your home drive so no sudo needed
[05:00] <martin_> i've used the sudo aproach
[05:00] <powertool08> DaSkreech: I noticed ;) I tend to backup xorg's where they are though, not sure why...
[05:00] <DaSkreech> and keeps it in an annoying enough place that if the changes work you have reason to clean up after yourself
[05:01] <DaSkreech> !paste > seektherapy
[05:01] <martin_> wow now that i try to save kate crashed :(
[05:01] <powertool08> martin_: so if you break your gui just use sudo mv xorg.conf.bak to xorg.conf and it will overwrite the b0rked config with your original
[05:02] <DaSkreech> martin_: did you open it with kdesudo ?
[05:04] <martin_> now i have and am affraid to try
[05:04] <martin_> brb stating x
[05:04] <mike-solidus> hey, my firefox is broken with php files, it keeps asking if i want to download them
[05:04] <genii> Mike804: in Konsole:   alsactl -v                        should tell you what version of alsa you are using
[05:05] <martin_> WOOHOO!!! i finaly got my linux the way i wanted it
[05:06] <martin_> Thx guys
[05:06] <powertool08> martin_: lol, is that possible? Mine has been in a constant state of improvement since it was installed
[05:06] <martin_> wow firefox looks horrible in KDE 4
[05:06] <nelsonstreet> hehe
[05:06] <nelsonstreet> kde 4
[05:06] <genii> martin_: Well, most GTK apps do
[05:07] <martin_> powertool08: im too new at this to know what i want other than my screens properly independant and not 1 big desktop
[05:08] <powertool08> martin_: I just meant that its kind of a hobby os, there will always be something you are trying to fix, not necessarily because its broken, just because you want to try it a different way
[05:08] <DaSkreech> genii: ok so when lspci and lshw -C audio show nothing is that a hardware issue?
[05:08] <genii> DaSkreech: It could be a USB one
[05:09] <genii> But lshw shoulda showed that
[05:09] <genii> DaSkreech: Is it some onboard sound which could have accidentally been disabled in bios or so?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> seektherapy: do You know what kind of sound card you have?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> That's the next step I was looking at
[05:10] <Guest28041> g'day to all
[05:10] <DaSkreech> !au
[05:10] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:10] <nelsonstreet> !ca
[05:10] <Guest28041> a kubuntu beginner here
[05:10] <DaSkreech> Welcome to Kubuntu!
[05:11] <Guest28041> thanks daskreech
[05:11] <nelsonstreet> !java
[05:11] <martin_> powertool08: i know and understand, but since day 1 4 months ago i've been trying to figure out this problems and finaly managed it
[05:11] <genii> DaSkreech: I find it amusing that at least those 2 other ubuntu english channels when everyone just ends up here that speaks english
[05:12] <martin_> no one wanted to help me with this don['t know why
[05:12] <Guest28041> is this the place to ask for help
[05:12] <nelsonstreet> !Multiverse
[05:12] <DaSkreech> and badly needed language channels aren't created :(
[05:12] <mr---t-> !ask
[05:12] <martin_> but now it's done and time to change it the wan i want
[05:13] <DaSkreech> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61347/ anything sticks out to you?
[05:13] <genii> DaSkreech: Reading, 1 minute
[05:13] <genii> DaSkreech: Other than they are running as root? ;)
[05:14] <martin_> Im off later
[05:14] <nelsonstreet> wow awesome link :)
[05:14] <Guest28041> curious if there is a web cam that works good in kubuntu
[05:14] <nelsonstreet> !webcam
[05:15] <Guest28041> thanks mate
[05:15] <DaSkreech> genii: The MB seems ot have a number of "memory slots"
[05:16] <genii> DaSkreech: I see it now. I'll snip and repastebin the relevant section
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Why would it not be exposing what the controllers are actually doing?
[05:18] <DaSkreech> genii: X-Fi ?
[05:18] <genii> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61351/
[05:18] <genii> Yes
[05:18] <\Kira> How could I stop kubuntu from using a wireless device, but still have it enabled for a virtualbox OS to use?
[05:19] <DaSkreech> \Kira: Don't assign it an ip address?
[05:19] <genii> DaSkreech: "unassigned" usually means could not be given an interrupt
[05:19] <DaSkreech> You mean UNCLAIMED ?
[05:20] <genii> Hehe Maybe...it's getting late here and short on coffee
[05:20] <genii> DaSkreech: A dmesg dump might be useful
[05:20] <nelsonstreet> genii: warm cokes works best
[05:21] <genii> nelsonstreet: Thanks for the recommendation
[05:22] <marcio> anyone knows if CYREX will be back?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> genii: Does Creative still think that Linux is FTL ?
[05:23] <mr---t-> ftl?
[05:24] <DaSkreech> !FTW ?
[05:24] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[05:24] <nelsonstreet> macio: yes he lives here
[05:24] <genii> Faster Than Light ?
[05:25] <nelsonstreet> marcio: yes he lives here
[05:25] <marcio> thanks nelson...if I cant find him tonight I´ĺl find him tomorrow
[05:26] <DaSkreech> genii: Not For the Win
[05:26] <mr---t-> oh
[05:27] <shea> weird
[05:27] <shea> death note
[05:28] <rogan> why wont kaffeine play a dvd?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> !dvd
[05:29] <genii> seektherapy: Do you know EXACTLY what X-Fi you have? There seems to be about 13 different ones
[05:29] <DaSkreech> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61355/ What are we looking for?
[05:29] <genii> DaSkreech: 1 minute, reading
[05:34] <elvira> CYR
[05:35] <elvira> CYR
[05:35] <nelsonstreet> !Just-In-Time Compiler
[05:35] <elvira> CYR+
[05:35] <nelsonstreet> !Just-In-Time
[05:35] <elvira> HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[05:35] <nelsonstreet> Yes
[05:36] <DaSkreech> elvira: With?
[05:36] <nelsonstreet> !CYR
[05:36] <mr---t-> stop yelling
[05:36] <nelsonstreet> !CYR+
[05:36] <elvira> cyre
[05:37] <elvira> O ALGO ASI, NO RECERDOOOO
[05:37] <nelsonstreet> elvira no need to yell
[05:37] <mr---t-> !es
[05:37] <DaSkreech> What's CYR?
[05:37] <nelsonstreet> never heard of it
[05:37] <mr---t-> apparently it's somthing to yell about
[05:38] <elvira> HE
[05:38] <DaSkreech> elvira: CYR is a person ?
[05:38] <elvira> CYRET
[05:38] <DaSkreech> CYREX ?
[05:38] <elvira> SI
[05:38] <DaSkreech> Cyrex isn't here right now. What can we help with?
[05:39] <elvira>  i need read mi mail, hotmail
[05:39] <elvira> i need put my webcam
[05:39] <nelsonstreet> !webcam
[05:40] <DaSkreech> elvira: Hotmail doesn't like Konqueror use Firefox
[05:40] <elvira> cant
[05:40] <DaSkreech> Why?
[05:41] <elvira> i know
[05:41] <genii> DaSkreech: Weird. Dmesg output does not even have 0000:05:09.0   in it anywhere which is where the X-Fi is apparently sitting according to the previous lshw dump.
[05:41] <nelsonstreet> you know why, please tell
[05:41] <elvira> but, cant install firefox
[05:42] <DaSkreech> why?
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Does it give an error?
[05:42] <genii> elvira: in Konsole:    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:42] <DaSkreech> genii: The nVidia card turns up?
[05:42] <elvira> done
[05:43] <genii> DaSkreech: I wasn't looking for the video card :)
[05:43] <elvira> but, i cant read mail
[05:43] <DaSkreech> genii: Doesn't the nForce ship with an nVidia audio solution?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> used to be HD till Intel got all up in there
[05:43] <elvira> why cant read mail?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> elvira: Go to hotmail in firefox it will tell you that you can't
[05:44] <DaSkreech> The last link in that message lets you read it anyway
[05:44] <elvira> whos cyrex?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> then read your mail
[05:44] <genii> DaSkreech: Not sure. But Creative's site says beta linux drivers for X-Fi are available. Except when you follow the link you now need to choose from an array of about 15 models. So knowing EXACT model would be useful
[05:45] <genii> DaSkreech: eg: http://support.creative.com/Products/Products.aspx?catid=209&catName=X-Fi
[05:45] <elvira> whats amsn?
[05:45] <DaSkreech> elvira: Like WIndows Live Messenger
[05:45] <DaSkreech> it lets you talk to people on Hotmail
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Not check mail
[05:46] <memeemeee> anyone use vnc4viewer?
[05:47] <nelsonstreet> vlc
[05:47] <genii> elvira: You may need java for Hotmail
[05:47] <memeemeee> no vncviewer
[05:47] <nelsonstreet> java I hate
[05:48] <nelsonstreet> !java
[05:48] <genii> nelsonstreet: It's a neccesary evil
[05:48] <elvira> i know linux
[05:48] <nelsonstreet> yeah I know
[05:48] <elvira> i mad for linux
[05:48] <nelsonstreet> java is pssing me off
[05:48] <elvira> i don know linux
[05:48] <genii> nelsonstreet: Email complaints dept at Sun ;)
[05:49] <nelsonstreet> lol
[05:49] <rogan> How do I play a dvd? I installed medibuntu and mplayer is not working
[05:49] <elvira> o
[05:49] <elvira> o
[05:49] <elvira> no
[05:50] <ardchoille> is Kubuntu 8.04 an LTS release?
[05:50] <genii> elvira: Which Kubuntu you have? 7.10? 8.04? 8.10?   other?
[05:50] <nelsonstreet> rogan: try this  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[05:50] <mr---t-> yes
[05:50] <DaSkreech> elvira: I'm in Hotmail now in Firefox
[05:51] <mr---t-> ardchoille:  yes
[05:51] <ardchoille> mr---t-: Ah, good
[05:51] <vonkleist> genii> elvira: You may need java for Hotmail <---- what for?
[05:51] <genii> mr---t-: I'm pretty sure it's Not LTS btw
[05:52] <mr---t-> my upgrade says it is
[05:52] <elvira> learn me
[05:52] <genii> vonkleist: Some of the sections on Hotmail use java applets, like opening up the Compose window
[05:52] <mr---t-> my play box asked if I wanted to upgrade to 8.04 lts
[05:53] <vonkleist> genii, do you mean java or javascript?
[05:53] <elvira> well, i love you
[05:53] <elvira> see you tomorrow,
[05:53] <elvira> thank for be so swety
[05:54] <vonkleist> genii, I'm right now composing an email at hotmail, and it didn't use a java applet
[05:54] <elvira><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:54] <genii> mr---t-: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-December/002099.html         for more info
[05:55] <elvira> besos
[05:55] <vonkleist> in fact I don't even have the java plugin for firefox
[05:55] <elvira> bye
[05:55] <vonkleist> elvira, dulces sueños
[05:55] <elvira> Gracias , mi vida
[05:55] <nelsonstreet> way to go  Synatic Package managerr it fixed my java problem
[05:56] <ralpho> mine too
[05:59] <rogan> Still unable to play a DVD have tried VLC (disc starts running then vlc closes down) Mplayer starts to read disk (can hear music form dvd start to play then gives me some sort of connection error) Kaffine player does not work
[05:59] <genii> vonkleist: Weird, when I hover on it it says in the link bar at bottom some java gibberish on mine
[05:59]  * genii wonders if the site autodetects whether it's installed or so
[06:01] <nelsonstreet> rogan try disabling mplayer I had to do this to make Kaffeine to work
[06:02] <nelsonstreet> go to add/reove
[06:02] <nelsonstreet> remove
[06:02] <rogan> I installed mplayer after kaffeine refused to work but i will give it a try
[06:03] <niklauz> !synaptiv
[06:03] <niklauz> !synaptic
[06:03] <nelsonstreet> yes use synaptic
[06:03] <nelsonstreet> its a great help
[06:04] <mr---t-> ardchoille: my bad kubuntu is not LTS Ubuntu 8.04 is but not Kubuntu
[06:04] <ardchoille> mr---t-: Oh, ok, thanks for the info
[06:05] <mr---t-> sorry for the mis info
[06:05] <ardchoille> no worries :)
[06:05] <powertoo108> Does anybody use wpa_supplicant? I'm getting this error: ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported <next line> WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0
[06:06] <ardchoille> Has anyone reported a problem when using nvidia drivers that logging out doesn't actually log you out but leave you with a black screen on tty7?
[06:06] <rogan> nelsonstreet: still nothing..
[06:07] <monica0519> hello, i just installed kubuntu 8.04 on my laptop, and it cannot detect my wireless device, how do i fix this?
[06:07] <nelsonstreet> rogan: did you try looking through Synaptic?
[06:07] <nelsonstreet> look in System
[06:07] <nelsonstreet> Synaptic package manager
[06:08] <nelsonstreet> !wireless
[06:08] <ardchoille> !nvidia
[06:08] <ardchoille> I forgot there was a bot here, lol
[06:09] <monica0519> ;)
[06:09] <nelsonstreet> I want to kiss this bot, its saved me a few times
[06:09] <monica0519> wow
[06:10] <monica0519> is there anyway someone could help me thru this?
[06:10] <monica0519> err, walk me thru it
[06:10] <monica0519> :)
[06:10] <genii> vonkleist: http://i36.tinypic.com/2rp2mtc.png            bottom left on browser some javascript crap
[06:10] <vonkleist> genii, java != javascript
[06:11] <vonkleist> genii, javascript != java applet
[06:11] <genii> vonkleist: Ah right I keep forgetting
[06:11] <nelsonstreet> monica do you happen to know what your wifi card is
[06:11] <monica0519> how can i find out?
[06:11] <nelsonstreet> System. SysInfo
[06:11] <genii> vonkleist: java= language javascript = built-in old Netscape browser extensions
[06:11] <crashedata> Help please... I am using a laptop with both Gnome and KDE installed. I perfer KDE, but it only gives me about 10 minutes of battery time. On the same laptop, I get about 2 hours of battery time out of Gnome.
[06:12] <vonkleist> genii, not at all
[06:13] <vonkleist> genii, javascript is a language too
[06:13] <vonkleist> genii, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript
[06:13] <DaSkreech> crashedata: That's by far the widest margin of strange I've every heard
[06:13] <rogan> nelsonstreet: needed libdvdcss2 fyi
[06:13] <vonkleist> genii, read "Not to be confused with Java (programming language)."
[06:13] <genii> vonkleist: I recall vaguely something about Navigator pioneering it into html or so. But then again I'm exhausted at 1:13AM here without coffee
[06:14] <crashedata> I know. I am amazed that this could happen. Same laptop. I ran tests using both desktops, each with full battery when started.
[06:14] <nelsonstreet> monica0519: did you go to this web site : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:14] <crashedata> My laptop is an HP Pavilion dv6000. I don't think that should matter though.
[06:15] <vonkleist> genii, javascript is heavely used today on almost every webpage you got... a lot more than java applets
[06:15] <monica0519> nelsonstreet: yeah, i am dl'ing the restricted extras to see if that helps, what do you recommend?
[06:16] <vonkleist> genii, but well... it's not on channel's topic, so let cease this... :)
[06:16] <genii> vonkleist: Which makes me wonder about the poor woman who couldn't read her hotmails again ;)
[06:16] <monica0519> i should add that the website is like chinese to me, lolz
[06:16] <nelsonstreet> Read about Ndiswrapper
[06:16] <monica0519> ok, brb =)
[06:16] <genii> Better yet the manpage for smb.conf
[06:16] <seektherapy> ok
[06:16] <seektherapy> genii
[06:17] <seektherapy> its been 6 hrs now
[06:17] <genii> seektherapy: Yes?
[06:17] <seektherapy> sound card
[06:17] <seektherapy>  SB X-Fi
[06:17] <crashedata> DaSkreech: I have tried everything I can think of to get it fixed, but nothing seems to be working. I even replaced the battery, and still the same problem.
[06:17] <genii> seektherapy: Yes, you have which EXACT model, do you know? Creative has beta linux drivers but specific model is needed to choose which driver
[06:17] <nelsonstreet> monica0519: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper/FAQ
[06:18] <DaSkreech> crashedata: Bring that up in #kde I've never heard of anything like that but  maybe you have some crazy Superkarmab applet that's purpose is to test battery depletion that I've never heard of
[06:18] <seektherapy> i gave YOU that info
[06:18] <seektherapy> remember
[06:18] <monica0519> yeah, i'm reading the info now ;)
[06:18] <genii> seektherapy: I'll scroll up and look
[06:19] <DaSkreech> seektherapy: There seems to be quite a number of those
[06:20] <genii> seektherapy: I went back 4 hours in scroll and i can definitely tell you that you did not relay to me the exact model of your X-Fi card
[06:20] <seektherapy> Creative Labs screws Linux users
[06:21] <genii> seektherapy: Did you try to private-message it to me? Because if so I would not have gotten the message if your username is not registered yet at Freenode
[06:25] <geek> hmm
[06:26] <nelsonstreet> humm
[06:26] <geek> would a 5 gb partition be enough for a fairly basic kubuntu install?
[06:26] <nelsonstreet> yes
[06:26] <geek> including swap, for a 384 mb ram system
[06:26] <nelsonstreet> yes
[06:27] <geek> cool
[06:27]  * geek wants to throw a kubuntu install on one of the older shared boxen at home since i can't stand working in windows now
[06:27] <geek> i'm spolit ;p
[06:27] <ardchoille> geek: I would think 5Gb is overkill
[06:27] <nelsonstreet> lol
[06:28] <geek> ardchoille: what's the minimum?
[06:28] <nelsonstreet> 2 g maybe
[06:29] <ardchoille> geek: last I read it wasn't much
[06:29] <ardchoille> looking..
[06:29] <geek> ardchoille: neat
[06:31] <monica0519> nelsonstreet: are you still here?
[06:32] <ardchoille> geek: I can't find the page now. But if you have a 5gb hdd, then you shold be good to go unless you download/store a lot of media
[06:33] <geek> ardchoille: not likely. i have a file server for that ;p
[06:33] <DaSkreech> seektherapy: Would you recognize the card if you saw a picture of it?
[06:33] <nelsonstreet> geek: read this page http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu.devel.kubuntu/2006-06/msg00000.html
[06:33] <nelsonstreet> monica0519: yes
[06:34] <ardchoille> geek: I installed Kubuntu yesterday and "df -h" reports for /dev/sda1 = 2.5 gigs
[06:34] <monica0519> pm plz?
[06:34] <nelsonstreet> sure
[06:34] <geek> ardchoille: good enough
[06:34] <monica0519> ty
[06:34] <monica0519> ;)
[06:34] <ardchoille> geek: and I installed a lot of apps from the repos too
[06:35] <geek> ardchoille: i just need a basic set up. only thing i'd add on is firefox
[06:35] <ardchoille> should be ok then
[06:35] <ardchoille> now I'm thinking that I'm wasting 65 gigs on this hdd, lol
[06:35] <geek> media is stored on SMB shares on another box ;p
[06:35] <ardchoille> smart move :)
[06:35] <geek> actually since i got my fileserver up i feel the same way
[06:36] <geek> ardchoille: i started off setting a irc server. i procrastinated. next thing i know, i have torrentflux, webdav and samba installed and set up ;p
[06:37] <ardchoille> :)
[06:39] <geek> (and i need something to use while i backup and  try out intrepid on my main box)
[06:41] <ardchoille> geek: you can always use a livecd that has PartImage on it to make a disk image of your main install just in case
[06:41] <ardchoille> I do that weekly as part of my backup scheme
[06:41] <ardchoille> geek: PM?
[06:41] <geek> ardchoille: naw. g4l
[06:42] <faileas> ardchoille: sure
[06:42] <aliang> what are you talking about
[06:44] <DaSkreech> tackat: Hi
[06:44] <aliang> HI
[06:44] <faileas> aliang: oh, i'm setting up a secondary linux box so that i don't suffer while i prep my box for backup ;p
[06:45] <aliang> good
[06:53] <nelsonstreet> !mazaika
[06:53] <Wind67> bye
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Bye
[06:53] <DaSkreech> !bye
[07:03] <monica0519> could a wifi pci card be disabled in BIOS?
[07:04] <nelsonstreet> !bio update
[07:04] <nelsonstreet> !bio
[07:04] <nelsonstreet> !bios
[07:04] <monica0519> pooey
[07:05] <DaSkreech> monica0519: no
[07:06] <nelsonstreet> DaSkreech: can you help with Monica's wifi
[07:06] <monica0519> plz
[07:06] <genii> monica0519: Yes, many bios allow you to disable the wifi in there. some laptops also have a small exterior physical switch which can also do this
[07:06] <DaSkreech> What's the problem?
[07:06] <monica0519> oh boy
[07:06] <DaSkreech> you can disable a addin card from the BIOS?
[07:06] <monica0519> its a doozy
[07:07] <DaSkreech> Unless I'm reading it wrong
[07:07] <genii> DaSkreech: Ah, PCI probably not :)
[07:07] <monica0519> i just installed 8.04 on my lappy, but it doesnt recognize my wireless device
[07:07] <monica0519> i have an Atheros multiband wifi card
[07:07] <monica0519> pci
[07:08] <monica0519> i installed ndis gtk
[07:08] <monica0519> madwifi
[07:08] <monica0519> everything bcant find themut the windows drivers, as i
[07:08] <monica0519> :(
[07:08] <monica0519> wth did i type
[07:08] <monica0519> lolz
[07:09] <monica0519> srry i must have hit the pad
[07:09] <monica0519> lolz
[07:09] <genii> !enter | monica0519
[07:09] <monica0519> ok, i'm sorry
[07:11] <DaSkreech> so you followed the help in the bots links?
[07:11] <monica0519> yes, thanks to nelsonstreet
[07:11] <DaSkreech> And your lappy has the kill switch on?
[07:11] <monica0519> yes
[07:12] <DaSkreech> can you see the card in ls* output?
[07:12] <monica0519> lspci? yes
[07:13] <monica0519> Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[07:18] <monica0519> hello?
[07:18] <DaSkreech> trying to find what I can about that
[07:18] <monica0519> oh, ty so much
[07:22] <DaSkreech> Which laptop?
[07:25] <monica0519> umm
[07:26] <monica0519> ok, how do i pull up the model info?
[07:26] <DaSkreech> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=902860
[07:26] <DaSkreech> That looks useful
[07:27] <monica0519> thats for a AMD64, i have an Intel i386
[07:28] <monica0519> ok, the drivers i blacklisted earlier, how do i enable those?
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Do you remember how you blacklisted them?
[07:29] <monica0519> yea, brb
[07:29] <powertoo108> Anyone care to take on another wifi problem?
[07:29] <monica0519> echo -e "blacklist bcm43xx\nblacklist b43\nblacklist b43legacy\nblacklist ath_pci\nblacklist ath_hal\nblacklist ssb" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[07:30] <powertoo108> I have a wpa_supplicant connection error ioctl[siocsiwauth] operation not supported
[07:31] <DaSkreech> monica0519: open /etc/modprobe/blacklist and take out the bottom  lines starting with bcm34xx
[07:32] <monica0519> kk, just a sec
[07:35] <powertoo108> DaSkreech: Any ideas on my error?
[07:35] <DaSkreech> !wpa
[07:35] <DaSkreech> Best I can give
[07:36] <DaSkreech> They have WPA specific page
[07:36] <powertoo108> DaSkreech: thanks, i'll check again, maybe I can find something I missed earlier :/
[07:56] <rogan> !wifi
[07:57] <DaSkreech> monica0519: There should be no difference in the instructions for i386 and AMD64
[07:59] <faileas> DaSkreech: er... you mean EMT64 and AMD64? ;p
[08:00] <faileas> cause i suspect AMD64 assembler has some stuff thats not in 386
[08:00] <DaSkreech> faileas: No It's compiling from source it will compile for the arch it's on
[08:00] <faileas> ahh
[08:00]  * faileas misunderstood
[08:07] <rogan> how can I get Amarok to read id3v2 tags and play m4a format
[08:36] <rogan> How can I get Amarok to play M4a format and correctly display/read id3v2 tags?
[08:40] <JackWinter> how do i disable scanning of file systems at bootup ?  it might be very inconvinient if it would happen at the wrong moment when i'm in a hurry for some  reason.  big partitions can take a lot of time...
[08:56] <JackWinter> i just installed kcmpureftpd into kubuntu 8.04 / kde 3.5.10.  where do i find it in the menu structure ?  or how do i execute it ?
[08:57] <rogan> try #ubuntu .. its a bit more lively tonight than this channel
[09:06] <powertoo108> JackWinter: try whereis kcmpureftpd
[09:07] <powertoo108> JackWinter: usually the d on the end means daemon so you can probably control it with sudo /etc/init.d/kcmpureftpd {start|stop|restart}
[09:08] <powertoo108> JackWinter_: and try whereis kcmpureftpd to find the binary in your system
[09:09] <zer0o> hi guys i use wicd, i dunno what ive done but i have three icons of wicd on the icon tray, how do i remove two of em just keeping one? thanks
[09:10] <JackWinter_> powertoo108: it says that it's a kde control panel.  then i don't have to edit files in /etc, no ?  the problem is i don't know what the executable is called either :)
[09:10] <powertoo108> zer0o: in a terminal run "ps aux | grep wicd" if you see 3 instances running then kill 2 of them
[09:11] <powertoo108> JackWinter_: hmm the end "ftpd" looks like a ftp server
[09:12] <powertoo108> JackWinter_: was it in the repos or did you compile it?
[09:12] <JackWinter_> this is a kde inteface for setting up and controlling pure-ftp
[09:13] <JackWinter_> powertoo108: it's from the repositories.  that's why i'm suprised not being able to find it somewhere in kde :)
[09:13] <powertoo108> JackWinter_: did you try autocomplete with kcm <tab>?
[09:14] <JackWinter_> powertoo108: good idea :)
[09:15] <JackWinter_> powertoo108: no combination of kcm and capitalization will find it...
[09:15] <powertoo108> hmm
[09:16] <JackWinter_> oh, well maybe i'll load the gnome utility instead :)
[09:17] <powertoo108> JackWinter_: are kcminit kcminit_startup and kcmshell related to it?
[09:18] <assa9er__> hello all
[09:18] <JackWinter_> powertoo108: don't know, i'll go investigate
[09:18] <powertoo108> hello assa9er__
[09:19] <assa9er__> fine powertoo108
[09:19] <assa9er__> thanks
[09:20] <rogan> How can I get Amarok to play M4a format and correctly display/read id3v2 tags?
[09:21] <zer0o> powertoo108: there are three of them running but one is daemon.py one is monitor.py and one is wicd-client.py, if i go into that folder /usr/lib/wicd/wicd whic one i keep? and which one i delete? thx
[09:24] <powertoo108> zer0o: hmm, I'm not sure you want to delete any of them
[09:24] <JackWinter_> powertoo108: thanks, kcmshell got me going!
[09:24] <powertoo108> JackWinter_: no problem
[09:24] <Kohl^Uni> I have a problem with my sound in 8.04. I can play sounds fine after booting, but after resuming from Suspend I can't hear any sounds, though the programs in question don't show any errors.
[09:25] <zer0o> powertoo108: but i think if i have 3 same icons on the tray at every boot it's because of this 3 files, so if i delete 2 of em one is gonna remain anyway
[09:25] <Kohl^Uni> Also, unloading the sounddriver via modprobe -r tells me that it is "still in use", though I shut down the ALSA soundserver and stopped all programs using sound
[09:26] <Kohl^Uni> This is on a laptop with a "hda-intel" soundchip
[09:26] <powertoo108> zer0o: are all 3 icons equal? since the 3 scripts have different names I would guess that they have different functions
[09:28] <powertoo108> zer0o: I wouldn't delete them just yet, maybe you could rename them or move them to another directory and see if they still start and if not did you lose any functionality, then if everything still works delete them
[09:30] <zer0o> i can always like backup them before removing and then boot 2-3 times and c if it works
[09:30] <zer0o> alright thanks powertoo108
[09:30] <powertoo108> zer0o: np
[09:31]  * powertoo108 sleeps for 5+ hrs
[09:33] <JackTop> how do i updatefrom hardy to interprid beta ?
[09:45] <Woody86> does anyone know where I can download the 64 bit version of Kubuntu 8.10??
[09:54] <powertool08> Woody86: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[09:55] <powertool08> Woody86: whoops, looks like 8.10 isn't on there
[09:55] <Woody86> powertool08 -  yeah, that's what I noticed :(
[09:56] <powertool08> Woody86: under the start download link click the link that says complete list of download locations
[09:56] <nelsonstreet>  Is it on distrowatch maybe
[09:57] <powertool08> I don't know which mirror is best for you so I can't give you a direct link
[09:57] <powertool08> Woody86: ^
[09:58] <nelsonstreet> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[09:58] <Woody86> powertool08 -  aha!
[09:58] <Woody86> powertool08 -  you are a genius!
[09:58] <Woody86> I wound up clicking on the mirror, and then the 8.10 folder, and they have 64 bit there :)
[09:58] <powertool08> Woody86: thanks, but after fighting my wifi card for 10 hours I don't feel like one :P
[09:59] <nelsonstreet> Wow it says its there but its not listed
[09:59] <Woody86> powertool08 -  fighting, what are you talking about? Mine works flawlessly out of the box :P
[10:00] <nelsonstreet> http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[10:00] <powertool08> Woody86: I have arch on the lappy, kubuntu on the desktop
[10:01] <lup0_> shouldn't the RC be released today?
[10:01] <powertool08> Woody86: and i insisted on doing it the hard way, cli all the way, no gui
[10:01] <Woody86> yeah, I have Ubuntu on my laptop (hard wireless to get working) Kubuntu on my desktop (wireless works out of the box)
[10:01] <nelsonstreet> Nice speed on the d/l,  4.9 M/sec
[10:01] <Woody86> go figure
[10:02] <Woody86> powertool08 -  /forehead/slap
[10:02] <nelsonstreet> wow that was a fast d/l
[10:02] <powertool08> Woody86: thats odd, I had gutsy on my laptop for a bit and it worked ootb after enabling the restricted driver
[10:03] <Woody86> powertool08 -  I had to work forever on mine, but when I upgraded it to 8.10 **luckily** all the wireless configuration stayed working
[10:03] <powertool08> Woody86: I like cli, and when I break my gui horribly I don't have to freak out because I can still do everything except look at images until I get it working
[10:04] <Woody86> powertool08 -  i wish i knew anything besides "reboot" on the cli :(
[10:04] <Woody86> I'm a mouse addict
[10:04] <Ratchet4620> hey guys i need some help getting my video camera to work through Firewire
[10:04] <Woody86> too many years under windows
[10:04] <powertool08> Woody86: just pick one app, find a lighter weight version and switch, continue until you favor cli more
[10:04] <powertool08> Woody86: for example, I'm using irssi for irc, not xchat
[10:04] <chris__> I've got a problem with Wine.. can you help me please?
[10:05] <powertool08> Woody86: I switched from amarok to mpd(music player daemon)+ncmpc which controls it
[10:05] <Woody86> powertool08 -  yeah but I would have no idea where to start, and I usually am only on the internet
[10:05] <powertool08> keldrona: I don't know anything about wine... I can't ever get stuff to work right with it
[10:06] <Woody86> powertool08 -  or uploading pics, that's about it :(
[10:06] <powertool08> Woody86: elinks, links, lynx, links2, w3m? there are tons of text browsers
[10:07] <Woody86> powertool08 -  ok, maybe I'll give it a go on my laptop :)
[10:07] <powertool08> Woody86: I switched to finch for aim, I did file editing with nano then switched to vi, file management (moving copying deleting) via cli with mv cp rm
[10:07] <Woody86> powertool08 -  I don't think it would be worth it to build a $1200 rig, and use it in CLI, though :D
[10:08] <powertool08> Woody86: Just take small tasks, try it both ways, some are better gui, some are much faster with cli, the file management commands are a good place to start, then move to editing config files in a terminal
[10:08] <powertool08> Woody86: I also use sudo aptitude install <package> over synaptic
[10:08] <Woody86> I've become used to gedit, but that's about it for file managing
[10:09] <Woody86> powertool08 -  what browser would you recommend?
[10:10] <powertool08> Woody86: I switch around... I usually use firefox because I like the addons but opera is nice, epiphany is very lightweight and fast but few addons :(
[10:10] <powertool08> I've been using links -g on my laptop lately, my goal is to be as minimalistic on it as possible
[10:11] <Woody86> powertool08 -  sry, I meant text-only ones?
[10:11] <Woody86> ah, ok
[10:11] <powertool08> Woody86: oh, I mainly use elinks but honestly I don't use text only browsing often
[10:12] <powertool08> Woody86: links is text and links with the -g switch is a lightweight gui version
[10:13] <powertool08> Woody86: actually its kind of a hybrid, it does graphics but to open a page you push "g" and it opens a box to enter the url and you can use it with or without the mouse
[10:13] <assa9er__> i wwant to enter to other chanels?
[10:13] <Woody86> powertool08 -  hmm.... I may have to give it a try :) see how it works
[10:14] <powertool08> assa9er__: type "/join #<channelname>
[10:14] <powertool08> "
[10:14] <powertool08> Woody86: awesome, you may find you like it better :)
[10:15] <Woody86> powertool08 -  hopefully, I'm a minimalist at heart, so it might just work out :)
[10:15] <assa9er__> "join #help
[10:15] <assa9er__> "join #help"
[10:15] <assa9er__> "/join #help"
[10:16] <powertool08> Woody86: hopefully, I enjoy minimalism but I also recognize there is a difference between being lightweight and efficient and doing it for the sake of claiming minimalism
[10:16] <powertool08> assa9er__: no ""
[10:16] <Woody86> assa9er__ -  try it without the quotes ""
[10:16] <powertool08> assa9er__: sorry, I didn't mean to confuse, I meant it as type whats in the quotes
[10:17] <assa9er__> yes thanks it works now
[10:17] <Woody86> powertool08 -  ah, very true, the "when is enough enough" conundrum
[10:18] <powertool08> Woody86: Really the only thing that truly makes cli so difficult is that its a lot of memorization of key combos which relate to specific commands
[10:19] <powertool08> Woody86: with a gui you don't have to read man pages you just look around for a minute until you find the button/menu/etc you're looking for
[10:19] <Woody86> powertool08 -  yeah, that's one thing I've notced, too. It seems like everytime I try to use the CLI I forget what command to use, and then try to google it, and then give up and do it in a gui :)
[10:19] <Woody86> but then again, I've always been a very visual learner my entire life, so it fits a little better for me
[10:20] <powertool08> Woody86: almost every terminal command has the -h or --help switch and will give some insight to the options which go with the command, if that doesn't help "man whatever command you want to run" will tell you more, if its not there, there's google and irc, or the gui version
[10:21] <powertool08> Woody86: I've also come to love screen, i can start irssi with screen, go somewhere else, ssh into my box and detach the session from the terminal and attach it wherever i am, then i can talk and its like i never left my room
[10:22] <Woody86> powertool08 -  heh, well i defiantly want to become more proficient with the cli, so I guess there is no better way than to just use it
[10:22] <powertool08> Woody86: or whenever X crashes programs running in screen don't close
[10:23] <Woody86> powertool08 -  that's pretty neat
[10:23] <Woody86> why use screen instead of just installing and using irssi from the computer you're on?
[10:24] <powertool08> Woody86: yep, you grab screen from aptitude and the instead of running $ irssi, run $ screen -S irssi irssi which is -S <- give the session a name <session name> <command to run>
[10:24] <powertool08> Woody86: screen is kinda like a container, irssi runs inside of it
[10:26] <powertool08> Woody86: then you can detach it with ctrl+a then release and hit d, then it goes back to the terminal prompt but irssi is still running
[10:26] <Woody86> yeah, but what are the advantages of using screen rather than just installing irssi onto the computer you're on?
[10:27] <powertool08> Woody86: say I go to my university's computer lab, its a windows box and i want to run some program that won't run on windows (i think irssi has a windows version)
[10:29] <powertool08> Woody86: I can use putty to ssh to my box at home, normally if irssi was running when i left I would have to start a new instance, or kill the process then start a new instance, with screen, i just detach it from my home desktop, reattach to my current putty session, i can scroll up and see whats been said since i left my house or whatever else
[10:29] <Woody86> powertool08 -  ah, I see. Luckily the only time I'm away from my main rig, I have one of my 2 laptops with me, so I don't think I'd ever have a reason to ssh, but that's pretty cool :)
[10:30] <powertool08> and since I have 4 programs I always have running, i can start them all, detach them and close my terminal windows so i don't have to minimize them while i don't work in them
[10:31] <nelsonstreet> kewl K3B works pretty good as a burner
[10:31] <Woody86> powertool08 -  well that's pretty cool. Is there any way to get files off your home computer? That might be something I may need one day
[10:32] <powertool08> Woody86: yes, you can use scp, i haven't quite mastered that one yet, i tried to copy a file from my school account back here but it couldn't find the directory on the school computer
[10:32] <Woody86> powertool08 -  is that a program?
[10:32] <powertool08> Woody86: but its basically scp user1@host1:file1 user2@host2:file2
[10:33] <powertool08> Woody86: yes, it probably has a gui frontend as well
[10:34] <powertool08> Woody86: and I think at least one has to have a ssh server and the other can get away with just the client
[10:35] <Woody86> powertool08 -  what's an ssh server?
[10:35] <powertool08> Woody86: secure shell, its like telnet but encrypted
[10:36] <powertool08> Woody86: so basically its remote login but you only get a command prompt
[10:37] <Woody86> powertool08 -  ah, and I need a server for it? I can't just go from someone else's home network to my home network?
[10:37] <powertool08> Woody86: it can also do x forwarding to do graphical stuff but i'm not sure how it works with a windows computer
[10:37] <Woody86> powertool08 -  oh, and I found secpanel, which is a gui for ssh and scp
[10:38] <powertool08> Woody86: well if you run an ssh server on your home box, then you can go to your friends house and log in to yours either with the ssh user@host command from linux or with putty from windows
[10:39] <powertool08> Woody86: but its also a nice open doorway for hackers if improperly configured so if you look into it I'd suggest publickey authentication with a passphrase on your private key file, ssh v2 only, no root logins, no keyboard interactive logins
[10:40] <powertool08> Woody86: and if you know you'll only use it at certain places you can tell it to only allow certain ip's, but i left mine open because i never know where i'll be when i decide to use it, oh, and i don't run it on the default port of 22 either
[10:41] <Woody86> powertool08 -  so is this the same process for scp? or is it different?
[10:41] <powertool08> changing the port helps alot with protecting against automated scans/attacks
[10:42] <powertool08> Woody86: i'm not sure... I set up ssh before I found scp so it might be required
[10:42] <Woody86> powertool08 -  hmm... well thanks for the tips :D I'm going to have to do a little research on this
[10:43] <powertool08> Woody86: I'm thinking you have to have the ssh server to do scp
[10:46] <powertool08> Woody86: looks like there's a program out there called scponly which doesn't allow the shell access
[10:46] <powertool08> Woody86: There is also sftp but I don't know anything about that
[10:47] <Woody86> powertool08 -  so I could get files, and not have the extra security risk of the ssh being open?
[10:47] <ZmAY> hello, how do i install .package file
[10:48] <powertool08> Woody86: possibly, however the link right below it is scponly: Multiple vulnerabilities — Gentoo Linux Documentation so you might want to check that out first before implementing
[10:48] <powertool08> ZmAY: what program is it?
[10:48] <ZmAY> amsn
[10:48] <Woody86> powertool08 -  haha, always a good sign ;)
[10:49] <ZmAY> amsn-0.97.2-1.tcl85.x86.package
[10:49] <powertool08> Woody86: although ssh has had tons of vulnerabilities over the years as will any heavy used remote login program
[10:50] <powertool08> Woody86: they are discovered, patched, upgraded, etc so as long as you keep up with it its safe
[10:50] <Woody86> powertool08 -  very true
[10:51] <powertool08> ZmAY: try sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.package
[10:52] <ZmAY> dpkg-deb: `amsn-0.97.2-1.tcl85.x86.package' is not a debian format archive
[10:52] <ZmAY> dpkg: error processing amsn-0.97.2-1.tcl85.x86.package (--install):
[10:54] <powertool08> ZmAY: you know there is amsn in the repo's I think its the same think you're wanting sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install amsn
[10:54] <assa9er__> i want to install a messanger soft can someone tell me tthe est one?
[10:55] <ZmAY> on this old pc i use 6.06, how do i update repos, i mean, if i install it that way it installs old version
[10:55] <powertool08> ZmAY: if not since dpkg didn't handle it you'd probably have to use a program called alien, I don't know how to use it just that it exists
[10:56] <powertool08> assa9er__: pidgin is a good multi-protocol messenger, it does aim, msn, yahoo, irc
[10:57] <powertool08> ZmAY: well you can update your /etc/apt/sources.list to pull from hardy repo's, but if you do sudo aptitude dist-upgrade it will try to upgrade you to feisty, then gutsy, then hardy so be mindful not to do that unless you really want to
[10:57] <assa9er__> tthanks powertoo108
[10:57] <powertool08> assa9er__: np
[10:59] <ZmAY> noop, i just want repo's to be upgraded, is that possible, without upgrading distro
[10:59] <powertool08> ZmAY: if thats not an option i'd look into building from source if you're up to it, or trying to find a .deb file which will install with the dpkg -i
[11:00] <powertool08> ZmAY: yes, if you edit the /etc/apt/sources.list it will give you programs from the newest repo's, its just dangerous because it opens the possibility to do the full distro upgrade
[11:00] <ZmAY> ok thanks, i won't risk
[11:02] <powertool08> Woody86: it was nice talking to you, I'm off to bed for real this time
[11:03]  * powertool08 sleeps (I really mean it! its 5 am)
[11:03] <assa9er__> take car powertoo108
[11:05] <assa9er__> you were so helpful
[11:19] <microchipv420> how do i change the kdm theme?
[11:20] <Gord0n> RTFM
[11:20] <daleslx> that is the same q i have been asking for 20y
[11:20] <microchipv420> so....?
[11:21] <daleslx> to me kde is the most hardes to theme
[11:21] <microchipv420> the only thing that has stumped me is the kdm theme
[11:22] <daleslx> yep and no one will give you a strat awnser ether
[11:22] <microchipv420> i see
[11:23] <microchipv420> daleslx: hey, check this out
[11:23] <microchipv420> http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=40
[11:26] <daleslx> i will play around with that see if it works . cool
[11:28] <ratchet4620> how do i install "mjpegtools" ?
[11:30] <Woody86> powertool08 -  ok, nice talking to you, too :D take care
[11:30] <Guest76690> HI
[11:30] <Woody86> Hi, what's up?
[11:31] <blip-> hi all,  where can i get a list of all non-standard repositories so i can add them to sources file... e.g. Medibuntu, Opera, and others ?
[11:31] <Guest76690> have msn?
[11:31] <blip-> the ones mentioned here for medibuntu don't work    http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#sources.list
[11:51] <faileas> blip-: why not get it straight from the medibuntu site?
[12:08] <assa9er__> how can i decomresse a .bz2 file
[12:08] <assa9er__> ?
[12:09] <rogan> assa9er: http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/tarball.html
[12:10] <blip-> faileas: there aren't worldwide mirrors for medibuntu repos like there is for the kubuntu repos, am i right ?    At least there is no mention on mirrors on their website
[12:10] <faileas> blip-: no, there's one mirror
[12:10] <rogan> assa9er: use winrar
[12:10] <blip-> faileas: ok thanks
[12:11] <faileas> assa9er__: bzip2/bunzip from cli, ark will do it if you have the bzip2 package
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> !ubottu
[12:20] <romero> aloha everybody
[12:22] <wouter> ello
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:31] <Wind67> ...
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> ...
[12:33] <faileas> _ _ _
[12:34] <JP-sNL3> O_o
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> ***
[12:34] <assa9er__> where can i get the unziped files
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> assa9er__: unziped files of what?
[12:35] <JP-sNL3> assa9er__: probably where the .bz2 is too
[12:35] <assa9er__> .bz2 file
[12:36] <JP-sNL3> yeah
[12:38] <JP-sNL3> and uuh, assa9er__... get/learn mc   (midnight commander): with that file manager you 'step into' a compressed file as if it was a directory and that makes easy copying files from it
[12:39] <Wind67> bye
[12:39] <manish> Has any body ever used Lotus notes 8 Beta.. There is no information available on google regarding how to setup gmail IMAP and Yahoo (Ymail) IMAP ... Can some body please help me with that
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> manish: i think you can run it via wine
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> manish: you can also use the web interface
[12:45] <manish> It is available as a linux package
[12:45] <manish> and i have installed the deb files
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> manish: sudo apt-get install wine
[12:45] <szalonna> does anybody know whats up with freedestop.org?
[12:46] <manish> now i just want to setup my Gmail and Yahoo (Ymail) Imap accounts
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> manish: thunderbird is good at google
[12:47] <manish> ActionParsnip: I know, I just want to see other available options as you suggested the other day... I dont want to use thinderbord ... It gives too  many problems on my PC
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> kmail, pine
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> evolution
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> there millions
[12:48] <manish> K mail does not work when i connect internet from my REliance data card nither does ne KDE app except Konversation and Kopete
[12:49] <manish> only thunderbird and other thirdparty clients.
[12:50] <manish> ActionParsnip: So now you see why i was trying to install zimbra and now Lotus notes
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> manish: lotus note i dont believe is free
[12:51] <manish> Actionparsnip: I have donwloaded it from the ibm site. its 8 beta is free for ubuntu ... and other linux distros like redhat and suse
[12:51] <manish> you just need to register on the ibm site
[12:53] <manish> ActionParsnip: so how do i configure gmail Imap on it . i have entered the basic settings and now its showing " Server settings not correct or unavailable"
[12:53] <manish> it did not get connected even once
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> manish: then go to the accounts menu and check settings
[12:56] <manish> ActionParsnip: I have put all the settings according to different help sections and my knowledge but the same reply... Is there any help section where i could ask this or any link you can think of ...?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> manish: what are you trying to set up specifically
[12:59] <manish> gmail with IMAP
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> manish: in what client?
[13:00] <manish> Lotus notes
[13:00] <manish> IBM Lotus notes
[13:00] <manish> 8.0 beta
[13:00] <manish> thats what it says
[13:02] <manish> ActionParsnip: did you get it ???
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> just websearching
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> manish: google dont use standard pop and smtp ports you know
[13:04] <manish> for imap we need to use port 993 instead of regular 995 port
[13:04] <kosmofield> Hi, is it possible to access a encrypted partition (dm-crypt) with only a live-cd ? :/
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> !encryptfs
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> !find encr
[13:04] <manish> i have put that in place and the other settings also seem to be correct but still the prob is not rectified
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> manish: http://uts.fiu.edu/Email/inotesfaq1.htm
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> manish: thats all i got
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> manish: id have a look at the ports google uses, i think they are quirky
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> manish: plus you may need some ssl encryptioon for traffic either way
[13:07] <manish> i have enabled that too .. and thanks for your time. if i get a workaround i will post it on my blog at www.jackofallmarketing.wordpress.com
[13:08] <manish> that way you will know it too...
[13:08] <manish> thanks again and bye
[13:09] <giolatalpa> ciao a tutti
[13:10] <giolatalpa> sono nuovo del canale e di kubuntu
[13:10] <giolatalpa> spero di fare presto amicizia
[13:10] <faileas> !it
[13:51] <blip-> hi, i don't know what happened I just restarted my system and is presented with a text login.   I can run openbox,.   but KDE was somehow uninstalled... i reinstalled kdebase-bin.   what happened ?  How can i start KDE ?   thanks
[13:52] <blip-> kubuntu 8.04
[13:52] <blip-> i spent the last 3 days customizing it... i really don't want to reinstall if possible
[14:17] <aotianlong> any body use `sshpass`
[14:17] <aotianlong> why sshpass cost a lot of cpu.
[15:02] <GaMbi_DK> I get keyboard delays when my system has been on for 3-6 hours ~(with no real reason - app wise) and wont go away untill I reboot...Now I discovered that if I unplug the keyboard from my front USB port and plug it in the back the problem goes away without rebooting. so I figured that the problem lies in my front USB port... is this fixable? my cord isnt long enough to be plugged in the back of my puter
[15:04] <becker> hi fellow unixers....i am having some trouble....i resized my vista partition (merged two partitions using gparted) im now unable to boot vista ....am currently using kubuntu ...however NEED my vist system back ....can someone give me a few ideas on how to resore my vista please?
[15:05] <martin_> GaMbi_DK: you'd be better off getting a usb extension cord, or check if the connector in the motherboard is properly seated
[15:09] <GaMbi_DK> martin_,  I dont need an extension,, I need my front USB to work :) and yes.. it is properly seated.. never had this problem on XP.. also found a few others on google with same problem (no fix is found thought)
[15:11] <martin_> GaMbi_DK: did you try using the other front usb port?
[15:20] <JackTop> what channel for kubuntu 8.10rc ?
[15:20] <trappist> #ubuntu+1
[15:22] <martin_> witch package is easier to install . RPM .deb or tar.gz
[15:28] <rogan> What do I need to do to get Amarok to play m4a format and properly id id3v2 tags?
[15:37] <eagles0513875> !multimedia | rogan
[15:39] <rogan> well my problem ubottu is some m4a play but others will not play and there tags are not read... so I have about 2000 songs that just show a title .. when you go to play that song it reads an error and randomly changes the title of that song to some random name (diferent each time)
[15:39] <pnutbrain> hi there, i'm quite new to kubuntu. i have a rather annoying problem. i use kubuntu 8.10 and i use the intel 3945ABG wireless card. knetworkmanager says wireless is "activated" i guess that means connected, but i have still no internet.. is this a known problem, with a known solution?
[15:39] <pnutbrain> tried to use google, but nothing i found proved effective
[15:39] <faileas> ... heh
[15:50] <eagles0513875> !vpn
[15:51] <eagles0513875> hey
[15:54] <eagles0513875> has anyone setup vpn wiht this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD and been successful
[15:55] <jose__> hi
[15:57] <jose__> I have problem with my wireless network
[15:57] <martin_> hi i just installed amsn from adept but i cant find it in the Kmenu
[15:58] <jose__> I have problem with my wireless network I can't connect
[15:58] <eagles0513875> martin_: dump amsn and use kopete
[15:58] <gm04030276> martin_ try using alt+F2 and typing amsn. It sometimes takes a bit of time to appear in the menu
[15:59] <gm04030276> martin_: or pidgen! Kopete won't keep connection for me but pidgen does! Is pidgen the kde4 one?
[15:59] <martin_> ok thx
[15:59] <jose__> I again ask for the password
[16:00] <gm04030276> jose__: your wireless connection is asking you for a password?
[16:00] <jose__> yes
[16:00] <faileas> er pidgin has nothing to do with KDE4 i think its GTK based >_>
  yes
[16:00] <martin_> gm04030276: I don't like pigden and kopete feel weird so i didnt try it in KDE4
[16:01] <eagles0513875> martin_: kopete actually grows on u
[16:01] <eagles0513875> martin_: amsn lacks the development at this point in time
[16:02] <eagles0513875> if someone could improve it then i might consider it
[16:02] <martin_> eagles0513875: at least it lets me send offline messages and receive them
[16:02] <faileas> martin_: as a stopgap try launching it from the console
[16:03] <martin_> witch is one thing pigden wont let me do
[16:03] <eagles0513875> martin_: it should be under internet or do as faileas said above
[16:03] <martin_> faileas: i got it, did know about the alt-F2 thing
[16:06] <eagles0513875> any vpn experts on here
[16:14] <amerigo__> !paste
[16:14] <eagles0513875> amerigo__: ?
[16:18] <gm04030276> failes: oh right...ok...well i like it cause it works!
[16:24] <jameswf-home> has anyone expierienced a double plazma deal in their top right corner on kde4
[16:25] <eagles0513875> jameswf-home: there is one but thats normal both top right and bottom right
[16:26] <jameswf-home> I have 2 overlapping top right
[16:26] <jameswf-home> any idea of a process name?
[16:26] <eagles0513875> jameswf-home: no i dont
[16:26] <eagles0513875> jameswf-home: u on hardy remix or hardy wiht 3.5 and 4 installed with
[16:27] <eagles0513875> or intrepid
[16:27] <jameswf-home> hardw with kde4 in parallel to kde 3.5
[16:31] <eagles0513875> jameswf-home: cant help ya im like that as well 4 parallel with 3.5 but i dont have that issue
[16:33] <marcio> afternoon guys...I'm an absolute beginner with dual boot problems, among a few, hehehe. anyone available to help?
[16:33] <Tm_T> !helpme
[16:33] <Tm_T> or, just ask
[16:33] <marcio> txks
[16:34] <faileas> marcio: be more specific ;p
[16:34] <marcio> wasnt able to find windows on grub yesterday and cyrex helped me on that
[16:35] <marcio> but now i find it and when I click on it  grub returns   BOOTMGR MISSING
[16:37] <marcio> this is a tishiba a215 amd 64 with kubuntu amd64 and winxp
[16:37] <marcio> toshiba
[16:38] <eagles0513875> marcio: try run grub-install
[16:38] <eagles0513875> !grub-install
[16:38] <eagles0513875> !grub
[16:38] <eagles0513875> marcio: click on first link restorgrub
[16:39] <marcio> ok...done...
[16:39] <marcio> konqueror openned a how to
[16:41] <marcio> will do the steps on it...  brb
[16:43] <dinesh> hiiiiii
[16:43] <dinesh> anyone there????
[16:44] <dinesh> hellooooooooo
[16:44] <dinesh> anyone want to chat with me??
[16:44] <Wind67> yes
[16:44] <Wind67> hello
[16:44] <Wind67> where is bryan ?
[16:44] <dinesh> hellloooooooooooo
[16:44] <Wind67> hi
[16:44] <dinesh> wind67
[16:44] <dinesh> h r u??
[16:45] <Wind67> i am fine and you ?
[16:45] <dinesh> me also fine
[16:45] <dinesh> what is ur name?
[16:45] <Wind67> oguz
[16:45] <dinesh> from where you are?
[16:46] <eagles0513875> Wind67: dinesh what is  both of yalls native languages
[16:47] <dinesh> whats your mean???
[16:47] <dinesh> i can't understand
[16:48] <mereandor> hi! I have a freshly installed kubuntu 8.04 on a computer but it has a kernel version that does not ship a driver for my ethernet card (igb). so how can I update the kernel w/o network access?
[16:49] <dinesh> hello to everyone??
[16:49] <faileas> mereandor: got another kubuntu box? then you can use aptoncd
[16:50] <mereandor> faileas: no other kubuntu box :(
[16:50] <DarthFrog> eagles0513875: Best to use proper English when chatting with a non-native speaker of Englis. "Yall" is not proper English.  It's proper Southernese, though. :-)
[16:51] <mereandor> any other suggestions?
[16:51] <faileas> mereandor: or ubuntu...
[16:51] <eagles0513875> dinesh: what language is your first language
[16:51] <eagles0513875> ty for reminder DarthFrog
[16:51] <dinesh> hindi
[16:51] <Wind67> ez
[16:51] <mereandor> faileas: yeah that was included - only gentoo here ;)
[16:51] <Wind67> re
[16:52] <dinesh> and then english
 from where you are? FRANCE
[16:52] <dinesh> no
[16:52] <jameswf-home> well ill be upgrading soon anyway main goal was to see if i could live with kde5
[16:52] <dinesh> india
[16:52] <eagles0513875> Wind67: what language do u speak
[16:52] <jameswf-home> *kde4
 Wind67: dinesh what is  both of yalls native languages French and turkish
[16:52] <deftone> lol
[16:52] <faileas> mereandor: owwie...
[16:52] <eagles0513875> Wind67: english here
[16:52] <eagles0513875> !OT
[16:52] <dinesh> only english
[16:53] <faileas> mereandor: a little tricky then. which kernel?
[16:53] <mereandor> faileas: is it possible to download the .deb-files manually
[16:53] <Wind67> [17:52] <eagles0513875> Wind67: english here <<< I know, i am free no ?
[16:53] <eagles0513875> Wind67: ?
[16:53] <mereandor> faileas: currently 2.6.24-19-generic for x86_64
[16:53] <Wind67> what ?
[16:53] <dinesh> any one know language "HINDI"
[16:53] <faileas> mereandor: no idea
[16:53] <dinesh> any one know language "HINDI"
[16:54] <mereandor> faileas: thanks anyway for trying ;)
[16:54] <GOTFrog> crap i cant remmeber my nickserve pass
[16:54] <dinesh> i am a new user on this  ubuntu
[16:54] <dinesh> so plz help me.
[16:54] <mereandor> how can I download .deb-files (from the official repos) manually to install them on another box?
[16:54] <faileas> !help
[16:54] <love> help
[16:55] <faileas> er...
[16:55] <faileas> thats not what its supposed to say ;p
[16:55] <faileas> love: be more specific
[16:55] <love> failes; what is ur mean??
[16:56] <eagles0513875> love: give more details about what you need help with
[16:56] <love> i want to make new friend
[16:56] <love> any one there??
[16:56] <love> to be my friend
[16:56] <love> ?????
[16:57] <nelsonstreet> love: this is not a chat channel only help with Kubuntu
[16:57] <faileas> mereandor: its... hard... if you know where it is EXACTLY you may be able to download it straight off the repos
[16:57] <eagles0513875> !ot | love
[16:57] <love> really
[16:57] <love> but i don't know about this
[16:58] <mereandor> so there is no way to "browse" the repositories ?
[16:58] <love> can i get help here
[16:58] <eagles0513875> love: yes u can
[16:58] <mereandor> aren't they simple http mirrors?
[16:58] <love> for software instalation
[16:58] <talles> ajuda com kurumin ng
[16:58] <eagles0513875> yes just ask your question with details and if someone knows they will respond love
[16:59] <faileas> mereandor: they are. but you need to know where in the pool they are
[16:59] <love> i want to know that how can i install a player
[17:00] <nelsonstreet> which player
[17:00] <faileas> mereandor: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/
[17:00] <nelsonstreet> name
[17:00] <faileas> i can't be arsed to go any deeper than this. also, you may need some dependancies as well. its gonna be a bit of a pain
[17:01] <mereandor> faileas: I guessed as much - but thanks for the link
[17:01] <love> vlc plzyer
[17:01] <love> vlc player for ubuntu
[17:02] <nelsonstreet> !vlc
[17:02] <love> .tar.bz2 file
[17:02] <love> ya vlc
[17:02] <faileas> love: open up a console and type in "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[17:02] <mereandor> is there a difference between .udeb and .deb files?
[17:03] <GOTFrogqc> love: just get it from adept
[17:03] <faileas> mereandor: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2000/12/msg02118.html
[17:03] <love> there is an error
[17:03] <love> command not found
[17:03] <faileas> enlightenment ;)
[17:04] <GOTFrogqc> love: no quotes
[17:04] <love> quotes mean
[17:04] <faileas> GOTFrogqc: ... i didn't think of that
[17:04] <faileas> quotes mean i was quoting a command ;p
[17:04] <love> sir i tell u that
[17:04] <love> i m a user of window
[17:05] <love> but i instal ubuntu 1st time
[17:05] <GOTFrogqc> love: DO IT FROM THE ADEPT INSTALLER
[17:05] <GOTFrogqc> love: add/remove program in your kmenu
[17:05] <love> where can i found this ADEPT INSTALER
[17:06] <love> but  how ??
[17:06] <GOTFrogqc> you know that blue button lower left corner
[17:07] <GOTFrogqc> click on it and look for add/remove program
[17:07] <nelsonstreet> brb
[17:07] <GOTFrogqc> if you have KDE4 mouse over aplicatiion
[17:08] <love> i found it
[17:08] <love> but now wat can i do
[17:08] <GOTFrogqc> now in the search field type vlc
[17:09] <eagles0513875> any vpn experts in here
[17:09] <eagles0513875> or anyone experienced with vpn in linux
[17:09] <enzo_> finnaly i' m on irc
[17:09] <enzo_> finnaly
[17:09] <enzo_> :D I'm so happy
[17:09] <GOTFrogqc> now it should apear in the squares under the search field, click on the box,  then click on aply changes lower right corner
[17:10] <GOTFrogqc> enzo_: lol
[17:10] <Meeso_OS> hey
[17:10] <Meeso_OS> is there a installation guide
[17:10] <melkart> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidIbex/RC/Kubuntu <--- this site states that the "beta" is the release candidate. can that be? where can i download the release candidate?
[17:10] <Meeso_OS> do I just burn the ISO and boot it?
[17:10] <enzo_> thanks, yo does any body here make music with linux in general?
[17:11] <love> but a error is also occure
[17:11] <melkart> Meeso_OS https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[17:11] <enzo_> yo does any body here make music with linux in general?
[17:11] <GOTFrogqc> love: got it?
[17:12] <love> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.
[17:12] <GOTFrogqc> close adept
[17:12] <Meeso_OS> melkart: thanks :)
[17:12] <love> Cannot install 'vlc'
[17:12] <love> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'vlc' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[17:12] <love> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.
[17:12] <GOTFrogqc> now open kmenu and go in the system tab
[17:12] <love> Cannot install 'vlc'
[17:13] <love> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'vlc' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[17:13] <love> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.
[17:13] <GOTFrogqc> !paste love
[17:13] <mereandor> faileas: it worked!
[17:13] <love> excuse me sir
[17:13] <faileas> love: i think posting that once is enough
[17:13] <love> what is this kmenu
[17:13] <faileas> mereandor: yay.
[17:13] <GOTFrogqc> the blue button
[17:13] <jeroen2> help, we connected the kubuntu hardy PC to the flat screen TV with s-video -- when X/KDE is not yet started, it works, but we have a black screen when KDE is started!
[17:14] <love> but there is no blue bttone
[17:14] <love> button
[17:14] <faileas> mereandor: just curious, any other deps/
[17:14] <deftone> eagles u there?
[17:14] <enzo_> anyone using lmms here?
[17:14] <GOTFrogqc> love: lower left corner
[17:15] <Meeso_OS> !!!!> To download this bot, please visit http://www.ybbot.com.
[17:15] <Meeso_OS> oops
[17:16] <love> hello sir
[17:16] <Wind67> hello
[17:16] <Wind67> love you are dinash
[17:16] <Wind67> ?
[17:16] <Wind67> you are arab ?
[17:16] <deftone> newbie question here........when i open up konsole it has a default of a huge window....how can i make it default to open a smaller window?
[17:16] <love> yes
[17:16] <love> not dinash
[17:16] <love> dinesh
[17:17] <love> i am indian
[17:17] <faileas> deftone: try settings -> size
[17:17] <Wind67> ok sorry love
[17:17] <love> its ok
[17:17] <faileas> though personally i recommend taking a look @ yakuake
[17:17] <enzo_> any one working with multimedia here?
[17:18] <love> how can i install vlc on ubuntu
[17:18] <faileas> love: are you on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[17:18] <deftone> love: adept installer
[17:18] <enzo_> never used vlc
[17:18] <love> but why???
[17:19] <faileas> deftone: did that work?
[17:19] <love> ubuntu
[17:19] <deftone> no size under settings
[17:19] <love> 8.04
[17:19] <faileas> love: wrong channel then. try #kubuntu
[17:19] <faileas> love: wrong channel then. try #ubuntu even
[17:19] <jeroen2> help, we connected the kubuntu hardy PC to the flat screen TV with s-video -- when X/KDE is not yet started, it works, but we have a black screen when KDE is started!
[17:19] <love> what its mean #ubuntu
[17:20] <love> where i try it
[17:20] <faileas> deftone: mine had it between scema and history
[17:22] <dand> hi
[17:22] <dand> i got a problem with kopete on kde 3.5.10
[17:22] <Wind67> hi
[17:22] <dand> it doesn't connect to msn
[17:22] <dand> i found lot of people with the same problem onthe forums
[17:23] <dand> but no solution
[17:23] <deftone> faileas: i'm not 8.10 and there's not option there....weird
[17:23] <faileas> deftone: maybe they changed it with KDE4 >_>
[17:24] <dand> kopete versionis 0.12.7
[17:24] <eagles0513875> !ipv6 | deftone
[17:28] <Wind67> ...
[17:55] <dand> hi, where can i find the offline mode option in konqueror, if any?
[17:55] <dand> it seems it's set up, since it cannot browse the web
[17:55] <Lynx-O> !dragonplayer
[17:56] <Lynx-O> anyone here know about dragonplayer
[18:03] <eagles0513875> !info dragonplayer | Lynx-O
[18:03] <Lynx-O> eagles0513875: so why can't I get it in adept...
[18:04] <pat_> Does anyone have any experience using the mythtv-frontend install from the package manager?
[18:04] <eagles0513875> Lynx-O: r u on kde 3.5.10
[18:04] <Lynx-O> good question.
[18:04] <eagles0513875> Lynx-O: once u answer that question we will go from there
[18:05] <Lynx-O> andLinux Beta 1 (04/21/2008) lol which is a Kubuntu distro don't know which though it doesn't say and I don't know where to look.
[18:06] <Lynx-O> says gusty
[18:06] <Lynx-O> that's all I know.
[18:06] <eagles0513875> Lynx-O: time for major upgrade
[18:06] <eagles0513875> latest release is hardy
[18:07] <eagles0513875> and on 30th october intrepid
[18:07] <Lynx-O> nice....
[18:07] <eagles0513875> Lynx-O: there might be in the repos for gutsy kde4 in there
[18:07] <Lynx-O> I don't know
[18:08] <Lynx-O> I'm ganna try updating my distro with adept
[18:08] <eagles0513875> !upgrading
[18:08] <Lynx-O> see if it crashes my andlinux.
[18:08] <eagles0513875> Lynx-O: you could always save the time
[18:08] <Lynx-O> and?
[18:08] <eagles0513875> Lynx-O: download hardy remix that has kde4 already and do a clean install
[18:09] <Lynx-O> I'm running andlinux inside of windows.
[18:09] <eagles0513875> Lynx-O: what is andlinux
[18:09] <Lynx-O> www.andlinux.org
[18:09] <Lynx-O> I like kde programs but wine won't play ffxi.
[18:10] <Lynx-O> which I play in most of my spare time.
[18:10] <eagles0513875> Lynx-O: they have wine version 1.01
[18:10] <eagles0513875> Lynx-O: if ur duel booting i would get rid of linux partition thats there and use it for kubuntu
[18:10] <eagles0513875> unless ur using gutsy wiht wubi
[18:11] <Lynx-O> look at andlinux.org
[18:11] <Lynx-O> there is no partition
[18:11] <Lynx-O> lol its inside a fat32.
[18:11] <eagles0513875> ewwwwwwww
[18:11] <Lynx-O> well in a folder on a fat32
[18:11] <Lynx-O> lol
[18:11] <eagles0513875> Lynx-O: thats like what kubuntu has known as wubi
[18:12] <eagles0513875> !wubi | Lynx-O
[18:12] <Lynx-O> I know that
[18:12] <eagles0513875> i never got wubi to work right
[18:12] <Lynx-O> but ffxi won't run properly with wine.
[18:15] <eagles0513875> Lynx-O: i would try latest version of wine
[18:16] <Lynx-O> I did
[18:16] <dand> '++
[18:16] <GaMbi_DK> what unreal tournament is the coolest ? (that can run on linux)
[18:16] <Lynx-O> my server computer runs hardy
[18:16] <eagles0513875> !ot | GaMbi_DK
[18:18] <Lynx-O> I use it for my documents
[18:19] <jerome_> hi hall
[18:19] <jerome_> je cherche le salon franais
[18:19] <jerome_> français pardon, pouvez vous me donner le lien
[18:19] <jerome_> merci d'avance
[18:19] <genii> !fr | jerome_
[18:20] <jerome_> thanks
[18:33] <nemanja> hi everyone... i have a little stupid question, i've just installed kubuntu kde4 and i dont have a volume icon in the systray... what package should i install ?
[18:38] <genii> nemanja: They may be able to properly assist you in the channel #kubuntu-kde4
[18:56] <thefish> what is kubuntu's desktop search?
[19:01] <giolatalpa> ciao a tutti
[19:03] <istihza> thefish:Strigi...
[19:04] <istihza> ciao, come stai?
[19:05] <thefish> thanks istihza, and decent interface for it? i see i have strigiclient
[19:06] <batti5> anybody kow abou c++?
[19:06] <batti5> know about c++
[19:07] <batti5> i followed a c++ traning, i do every thing it sais, but it would-ent complie
[19:08] <batti5> can anybody help
[19:09] <istihza> thefish: Actually I am used to using slocate for searching tasks... You might wish to check http://strigi.sourceforge.net/ for information on Strigi. Hope it helps
[19:09] <thefish> cool, thanks istihza
[19:10] <digitalpsyko> wow dis new kde4 is so purty
[19:11] <batti5> whare can i find a actual c++ training, for free?
[19:11] <istihza> batti5, I am not a c++ programmer, but maybe if you tell us how you are trying to compile we can help...
[19:14] <axel_> Konversation/ KMail seems that it has emptied my whole IMAP inbox. Are these E-Mails really lost or are they stored somewhere but aren't displayed?
[19:40] <wolfjb> Hello, I'm starting to develop an application for myself and was trying to setup kdevelop. I thought to get the kdeapi docs installed, and so installed kdelibs5-doc which, I thought, would actually give me documentation - but it doesn't is there a package that I can install for the kde api docs (especially that I could import into kdevelop?)
[19:41] <wolfjb> I've tried techbase.kde.org, but it seems to assume that you have downloaded the source for both kde and qt and have setup specific users, etc. I'd just like to use the packages that come with kubuntu
[19:41] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: link?
[19:42] <wolfjb> JohnFlux: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Set_up_KDE_4_for_development#KDevelop
[19:44] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: i'll have a look, but one way is to simply go to  kde:kapplication    etc in konqueror
[19:45] <axel_> wolfjb: Thank you for your effort but I didn't do that. I Just use the compiled Kontact-/ QT-Packages that come with Kubuntu.
[19:45] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: hmm, kdelibs5-doc  contains nothing!
[19:45] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: it's a useless package
[19:46] <wolfjb> JohnFlux: yep
[19:46] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: might be worth filing a bug
[19:46] <wolfjb> JohnFlux: ok
[19:46] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: I think that means that the doxygen documentation isn't there then
[19:47] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: you could try 'kassistant'  (comes with kdevelop iirc)
[19:47] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: but anyway most people just use the website :-)
[19:48] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: just do   alt+f2 and type   kde:klineedit  into
[19:48] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: just do   alt+f2 and type   kde:klineedit
[19:48] <wolfjb> JohnFlux: I could just use the website, but thought it would be nice to have in kdevelop
[19:48] <emilihouse> what is the program to extract file.rar
[19:48] <JohnFlux> emilihouse: command line wise, there's  unrar
[19:48] <JohnFlux> emilihouse: apt-get install unrar
[19:49] <JohnFlux> emilihouse: then:  unrar x file.rar
[19:49] <JohnFlux> emilihouse: there's probably a gui way to do it too
[19:49] <wolfjb> JohnFlux: neither kassistant nor klineedit work, tried from the console, which often suggests packages to install for missing pgms, but not this time
[19:50] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: if you go to konqueror and type:    kde:klineedit    does that work?
[19:50] <emilihouse> ok I understand
[19:50] <emilihouse> thank you
[19:50] <Colonel_Panic> I'm having a damn hell ass of a time repartitioning this hard drive
[19:50] <wolfjb> JohnFlux: yep that works. that is kinda cool
[19:51] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: klineedit is just a random kde class
[19:51] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: kde:kapplication  etc
[19:51] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: are you sure you actually tried what I said? :)
[19:51] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: press  alt+f2  and type kde:klineedit
[19:51] <wolfjb> JohnFlux: Ah, didn't do the kde: part, I just typed the klineedit... my ba
[19:51] <wolfjb> s/ba/bad
[19:51] <JohnFlux> ah okay :)
[19:52] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: also you can do  qt:qlineedit   for the qt docs :)
[19:52] <wolfjb> JohnFlux: cool, thanks for the tips
[19:52] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: to be honest, you'll probably be reading the qt docs a lot more than the kde ones anyway
[19:52] <xico> hi ppl
[19:53] <wolfjb> JohnFlux: now, I just have to learn kde/qt again - haven't done anything with it since kde2
[19:53] <JohnFlux> Riddell: as wolfjb found out, kdelibs5-doc    is pretty much an empty package.  presumably something went wrong when building it
[19:53] <wolfjb> JohnFlux: I thought the kde api was the way to go for cross platform issues ?
[19:54] <xico> bye
[19:55] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: it's nothing to do with cross platform
[19:55] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: there's a few classes that you should use the kde versions of, but mostly it's just a few differences
[19:56] <JohnFlux> wolfjb: use kapplication instead of qapplication, etc.  but anyway, 95% of your code will be with qt classes :)
[19:57] <wolfjb> JohnFlux: alrighty, thanks for the info
[19:57] <lacero> please...someone help me with atheros ar5005 driver...
[20:00] <Riddell> JohnFlux: yes that looks broken
[20:02] <wolfjb> JohnFlux: Riddell: I'd file a bug, but I'm not sure how to do it, I don't see anything on the FAQ or in the community & support section to indicate where I should go from the kubuntu.org website
[20:03] <JannoTT> !8.10
[20:03] <wolfjb> wait, found bugsquad on the wiki
[20:04] <Riddell> wolfjb: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+filebug
[20:06] <JannoTT> There is no 8.10 cd download?
[20:08] <girao> ubuntu portugues alguem sabe
[20:08] <PhilRod> !pt
[20:08] <girao> Tanks
[20:12] <Guest70138> boas
[20:13] <Guest70138> anyone portuguese?
[20:13] <DarthFrog> !pt
[20:14] <Guest70138> #ubuntu-pt
[20:14] <DarthFrog> Guest70138: /join #ubuntu-pt
[20:15] <wolfjb> JohnFlux: Riddell: bug #288298 for kdelibs5-doc
[20:15] <Riddell> thanks wolfjb
[20:15] <wolfjb> Riddell: np
[20:15] <bruno> help
[20:15] <bruno> i need help
[20:16] <wolfjb> bruno: you need to ask your question to get help
[20:16] <Guest1228> i wanna install some apps in my ubuntu
[20:16] <Guest1228> this is bruno
[20:16] <Guest1228> like google earth
[20:16] <Guest1228> where can i get help in portuguese?
[20:17] <wolfjb> !pt
[20:17] <wolfjb> Guest1228: you can probably use synaptic to find googleearth and install it
[20:19] <wolfjb> Guest1228: or you could use adept (the kde package tool) or you could use apt-get from the command line
[20:21] <Guest1228> are u there?
[20:21] <wolfjb> Guest1228: if you need portuguese, try /join #ubuntu-br or /join #ubuntu-pt
[20:22] <Guest1228> i'm on the channel
[20:29]  * nelsonstreet yawns
[20:32] <blip-> is there any way to open the Manager Repositories without running Adept manager ?   I don't like Adept Manager at all, i'm using Synaptic instead
[20:32] <blip-> thus i want to uninstall it along with Adept notifier
[20:33] <posiyans> hello
[20:34] <posiyans> тоесть привет
[20:36] <nelsonstreet> posiyans: Engish only please in this channel
[20:37] <nelsonstreet> !ru
[20:42] <posiyans> !ru
[20:42] <posiyans> и как туда перейти
[20:48] <LordCrc> hi
[20:48] <LordCrc> i installed some package updates and did a reboot and now i cant get kde to work with vnc4server...
[20:48] <LordCrc> if run "startkde" from within the vnc session, it just kills the vnc session
[20:51] <LordCrc> log file mentions "XIO fatal IO error (resource temporarily unavailable)"
[20:58] <LordCrc> ah
[20:59] <LordCrc> note to self... kde Autostart goes for vnc too
[21:09] <sourcemaker> why question is off-topic... but is there a channel for java developers? #java does not work
[21:11] <Guest49999> Bonjour ! J'aurais besoin d'aide, quelqu'un peut-il m'aider ?
[21:14] <axel_> Kontact/ KMail seems that it has emptied my whole IMAP inbox. Are these E-Mails really lost or are they stored somewhere but aren't displayed?
[21:16] <arun_> hiiii everyone
[21:16] <arun_> is kbuntu 8.10 out
[21:18] <barb> hello
[21:19] <barb__> french ?
[21:20] <the_darkside_986> What is the name of packages for Amarok mp3 playback?
[21:21] <the_darkside_986> I don't have any mp3s here to trigger the package prompt so I need to install it manually.
[21:21] <the_darkside_986> (The radio streams do not trigger it)
[21:24] <the_darkside_986> Is Kubuntu ever going to put the Kubuntu logo in its default KDE setup?
[21:40] <glauco> hello!
[21:46] <jerome_> join #ubuntu.fr
[21:46] <jerome_> join #ubuntu.fr
[21:47] <jerome_> join #unbuntu.fr
[21:47] <jerome_> join #ubuntu.fr
[21:48] <jerome_> arf quelqu'un peut me donner le lien pour le salon français
[21:49] <jerome_> je suis désolé mais pas moyen de le paramétrer correctement
[21:49] <jerome_> je fais join #ubuntu.fr
[21:49] <jerome_> mais çà passe pas
[21:50] <mr---t-> join/#ubuntu
[21:50] <trappist> /join #ubuntu-fr
[21:50] <jerome_> il y a pas grande discution ici, personne n'a de probleme visiblement
[21:51] <deftone> how can i make my windows catch on fire when i close them? i checked the box in the settings but nothing happens
[21:51] <jerome_> merci trappist
[21:51]  * mr---t- whoops / in the wrong place
[21:59] <microchipv420> heys guys, i need some serious help getting my girlfriend's wifi card working on her lappy, i installed 8.04 last night, everything is perfect except for her card
[22:02] <crimsun> microchipv420: more specifically?
[22:04] <microchipv420> i cannot get the wifi card enabled, it isnt recognized by the OS
[22:04] <microchipv420> it acts as if it isnt there
[22:10] <vote_4_Obama> !wifi
[22:10] <vote_4_Obama> !ndiswrapper
[22:11] <vote_4_Obama> !ndiswrapper
[22:11] <vote_4_Obama> !madwifi
[22:11] <vote_4_Obama> hmm
[22:30] <deitarion> My brother's freshly-installed computer has an RTL8111/8186 onboard NIC and, according to Google results, I have to build and install the driver. However, for some reason, my Hardy setup builds a .ko which is incompatible with his... and I can't build on his without downloading the kernel headers... which I can't do because the NIC isn't working.
[22:30] <deitarion> Solution?
[22:31] <vonkleist> deitarion, for some reason, the modules format for 2.6.x kernel is .ko
[22:31] <deitarion> vonkleist: You must be misunderstanding me. Both computers run Hardy. One needs a NIC driver. The other builds an incompatible one and I can't build on the one that needs the driver because it can't download the dependencies. Solution
[22:32] <deitarion> I'm assuming the incompatibility stems from kernel upgrades which were pushed out since the Kubuntu Hardy install CD was finalized.
[22:33] <brian_> I need to remove all options from the shutdown menu other than Logoff for a group of users
[22:34] <deitarion> Is there a way to make apt-get generate a list of required packages I can manually copy over from another computer using SneakerNet?
[22:34] <dekkong> hello can anyone help me with elisa media center?
[22:34] <dekkong> how can I get elisa to locate files that are on a different partition?
[22:35] <dekkong> the default search path for videos is /home/video
[22:36] <vonkleist> deitarion, can't get why getting a .ko module isn't compatible with hardy
[22:36] <vonkleist> but, yes
[22:37] <deitarion> vonkleist: Apparently it depends on symbols which were added to the kernel since the version distributed on the install CD.
[22:37] <vonkleist> if they have a different kernel version, it will be incompatible
[22:37] <vonkleist> but it's not because of the .ko format, but because of being a different kernel version
[22:37] <deitarion> I *KNOW*.
[22:38] <vonkleist> may be you can boot up to the same kernel version on the other PC and try to compile that
[22:38] <deitarion> I use Gentoo every day. All I need to know is how to make apt-get not fight me!
[22:38] <deitarion> vonkleist: My Kubuntu system doesn't have that kernel version anymore.
[22:40] <vonkleist> deitarion, it's an ugly solution, but what if you install a virtual machine with the same Kubuntu version from your brother's computer and compile from it?
[22:40] <deitarion> vonkleist: That'd take FAR too long.
[22:40] <deitarion> It'd be quicker to run upstairs and down alternating between checking what apt-get is trying to retrieve and manually copying it with a thumbdrive!
[22:42] <deitarion> Aha! I finally thought to use SneakerNet OR "Sneaker Net" in a google search and I found what I was looking for.
[22:42] <deitarion> --print-uris
[22:44] <wayneward> ive been running kubuntu  64 on a amd 3000 with kde 4  its seems a bit slow on games using wine I have a 256 nvidia and a gig of ram any ideas why it might be a bit laggy
[22:45] <Mixed432> wayneward, try gnome, that is the main reason I am giving up on KDE, kde is a resource hog, and forget about compiz@!
[22:45] <wayneward> yes ive disabled compiz
[22:45] <wayneward> it was fine on  kde 3.5.9 im sure it was better
[22:53] <wayneward> im thinking ill install ice wm and log into that to play games that might be a solution
[22:53] <wayneward> or go back to kde 3.5.10
[22:53] <wayneward> anyone else having slow performance with games on kde 4
[22:55] <dekkong> hello can anyone help me with elisa media center?
[22:55] <dekkong> how can I get elisa to locate files that are on a different partition?
[22:59] <snikker> hi, i've got a problem with minicom. it don't accept keyboard input... can you help me?
[23:00] <deftone> does kubuntu have a repo for songbird?
[23:07] <ballzee_> i just installed ubuntu 8.04 and i can go to google and serch but cant go past it and apt-get just hangs up anyone know why ?
[23:08] <TimS> I get a notice some of my packages have been kept back when I apt-get upgrade, how do I resolve this?
[23:09] <deftone> dekkong: how did you get Elisa Media Center to work?
[23:10] <TimS> deftone: My elisa worked straight after an install.
[23:10] <TimS> Have you got the repo for it?
[23:10] <wilfried> slt
[23:11] <deftone> mine only shows a black screen...did u install elisa from Adept Installer?
[23:11] <deftone> i installed it from Adept Installer
[23:11] <wayneward> i have read some forms and they wrecon installng ATI graphics card will be faster than the nvidia with kde 4?
[23:11] <conanius> hi all
[23:11] <Guest41517> What's the proper way to switch to the nVidia binary drivers if a network driver issue (now solved) prevented restricted-manager from being run on login?
[23:11] <wayneward> is it worth a try i have a spare!..
[23:12] <TimS> dekkong: You could link them with a link
[23:12] <TimS> deftone: Yeah
[23:12] <conanius> Im having real issues with connecting to my wireless using Ubuntu. I'm using the laptop I have put it on now using a wired connection and it works fine. The wifi card is detected, can scan for networks etc... but the 'switch to network' is greyed out
[23:12] <TimS> Have you got the correct graphics drivers
[23:12] <conanius> can someone give me a hand sorting this out please? :)
[23:13] <deftone> what version of ubuntu do you have conanius?
[23:13] <conanius> ubuntu ultimate 1.8 I think
[23:13] <conanius> might be 1.9
[23:13] <deftone> hmmm...didn't know ubuntu had an ultimate
[23:13] <conanius> ive just got all the updates (184!!) so its bang up to date
[23:13] <TimS> I use a different wireless manager, begins with W but can't remeber it
[23:14] <deftone> is that a distro someone fluffed up or something?
[23:14] <TimS> deftone: Its a distro, not official
[23:14] <conanius> deftone:  - have a search for it, its got all sorts on it
[23:14] <deftone> i'm having trouble with my elisa
[23:14] <conanius> Tim - I can try adding in the details using the wireless manager
[23:14] <deftone> the graphics are all messed up and it looks like crap
[23:14] <conanius> but its having none of it
[23:14] <oobe> conanius, get familar with wireless-tools cmd line apps and /etc/network/interfaces
[23:14] <oobe> conanius, man interfaces
[23:14] <oobe> conanius, man iwconfig
[23:15] <oobe> conanius, man iwlist
[23:15] <oobe> gui apps will never be as stable
[23:15] <conanius> sorry oobe... but you're speaking a different language for me im afraid
[23:15] <conanius> im just using this to try and get into it all, maybe in a few months Ill know what you just said
[23:15] <conanius> progress peaked for me at cd ..
[23:15] <conanius> :P
[23:15] <conanius> or dir /w
[23:15] <oobe> ok fair enough
[23:16] <TimS> Gui always worked for me
[23:16] <deftone> wow that ultimate looks hot!
[23:16] <oobe> i was just saying that there are command line tools available that kick arse compared to gui tools
[23:16] <deftone> 1.9 is the latest?
[23:16] <TimS> deftone: try wicd
[23:16] <ardchoille> How do I replace a word in the kate editor with a word and a new line? I tried replace "test" with "test\n" but that just replaced test with the text "test\n".
[23:16] <oobe> and that you can find out more by reading the man pages
[23:17] <TimS> !wicd