[03:48] <spiky25> It's not so up-to-date but it's really decent and fast ...
[03:49] <Quan-Time_> you can start removing other packages you dont need.. such as gimp, openoffice, etc.
[03:49] <jsilver> spiky nice
[03:49] <rodgerr> nytek_: SKYPE works like a champ so far - able to configure it and talka nd listen to the test messages - video is slow but working
[03:49] <Quan-Time_> you might save some space.. but remember that many of the packages are required to function properly
[03:49] <nytek_> rodgerr, congrats, thats good to know. it was probably because i wasnt using ubuntu at the time :D
[03:49] <spiky25> Quan-Time linux can be lighter than windows and run way faster but you need proper knowledge for that ...
[03:50] <Obsidian1723-2> Anyone know of a 3dmf viewer (3-D Metafile) for Ubuntu?
[03:50] <Kind_bud> Does ubuntu have a 3d desktop feature like windows vista or windows 7?
[03:51] <Obsidian1723-2> kind_bud. yes
[03:51] <Quan-Time_> spiky25: yes.. i agree. and anyone asking in here if they can get it down to 1gb (probably) hasnt done the full research on it.
[03:51] <Kind_bud> HOw do you access it?
[03:51] <Obsidian1723-2> Look on YouTube for "Ubuntu vs Vista" and it shows it. It's called Compiz
[03:51] <Obsidian1723-2> You can get Compiz from the repositories
[03:52] <Quan-Time_> next ubuntu release is rumored to have "aero" effect.. RGBA
[03:52] <Quan-Time_> which is nice.. wanky.. but nice
[03:52] <ShadeS> i'm tired of these downloads ont going through correcvtly/win 20
[03:52] <spiky25> Kind_bud > compiz but I prefer to work without it, I love my linux fast but I use compiz on my demonstration live cds or dvds
[03:52] <losha> williamchan: doesn't grub have some commands you can run to list the files it can see? I forget the details...
[03:52] <aboucher> can anyone help me?
[03:52] <Obsidian1723-2> Anyone know of a 3dmf viewer (3-D Metafile) for Ubuntu?
[03:53] <losha> !ask | aboucher
[03:53] <spiky25> RGBA come from kde developpement don't expect too much as kde 4 was just decent after 4.2
[03:53] <Quan-Time_> !grub2 | losha
[03:53] <aboucher> well, i already tried that and everyone ignored me
[03:53] <Quan-Time_> might helr
[03:53] <Quan-Time_> help
[03:53] <losha> Quan-Time_: williamchan is running grub1, but thanks...
[03:54] <spiky25> aboucher don't ask to ask, just ask your question politely ...
[03:54] <Quan-Time_> !grub | losha
[03:54] <Quan-Time_> try that instead ;)
[03:54] <losha> aboucher: that generally means no-one knows the answer...
[03:54] <jacquesdupontd> hi guys
[03:54] <spiky25> if someone know how to help you, they will do it ...
[03:54] <aboucher> anyway, when i go to run wubi off of the 9.10 disk i can't run the autoplay program or wubi
[03:54] <airtonix> Quan-Time_, what do you mean next release will have rgba... i assume it already does rgba
[03:55] <jacquesdupontd> i'm searching for a good thing to record my desktop cause record my desktop is not doing good videos and i have a really good computer so i don't understand
[03:55] <spiky25> grub2 isn't needed grub or lilo do also well ...
[03:55] <Quan-Time_> airtonix: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/lucid-to-get-aero-style-rgba.html
[03:55] <williamchan> losha: gonna try and build a 64-bit deboostrap isntead
[03:56] <losha> aboucher: yeah, I don't know the answer to that. wubi isn't used as much as regular ubuntu install....
[03:56] <williamchan> losah: wondering if its cause im trying to ruan a 32-bit domU inside a 64-bit host
[03:56] <airtonix> Quan-Time_, this is without compiz then?
[03:56] <aboucher> wow
[03:56] <Quan-Time_> airtonix: no idea.. not spoken to the devs about it
[03:57] <Quan-Time_> but its gtk+ so i strongly suspect it WONT be compiz
[03:57] <Quan-Time_> but standalone
[03:57] <jacob_> I've been having trouble getting some packages such as usb-creator.   We mostly answer questions like: how do I click using the mouse...
[03:57] <mynickstaken> quick question ubuntu peeps
[03:57] <Quan-Time_> losha: woooh thats fairly advanced there buddy
[03:58] <mynickstaken> how do i tell 9.10 to not start x on boot
[03:58] <aboucher> spiky i already know that
[03:58] <mynickstaken> removed gdm from the runlevel, it still starts
[03:58] <aboucher> i've been running ubuntu for a few years and am trying to install it on a family computer
[03:58] <textex> this is funny
[03:58] <textex> ok now i tried a tip form google.
[03:58] <textex> just using 1 screen at a time
[03:58] <textex> the vga screen works fine
[03:58] <jacquesdupontd> ok vlc seems to be perfect
[03:59] <textex> but when trying the dvi screen, i get "failed to restore crct configuration"
[03:59] <spiky25> aboucher wubi isn't a decent ubuntu installation even for a beginner cause it has many lacks like security ...
[03:59] <trism> mynickstaken: you need to disable /etc/init/gdm.conf, I've heard moving it to /etc/init/gdm.conf-disabled will work, haven't tested it yet
[03:59] <textex> "intelfb_restore"
[03:59] <textex> any idea?
[03:59] <mynickstaken> trism: word, thanks
[03:59] <jacquesdupontd> please i'm seing like desklet on a video but i don't remember what it is can someone tell it to me ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOM8pnSA9fc  The one on the right : thx
[03:59] <losha> mynickstaken: I usually mv /usr/sbin/gdm to /usr/sbin/gdm.orig and I do the same with gdm-binary. I'd like to punch the gdm developer...
[03:59] <jacob_> I've been having trouble getting some packages such as usb-creator.  I'm new to ubuntu, but not a too dumb.  I think the problem is that I have a dell given kernel, which locks me out of some of the major features.  Can't upgrade from 8.04 (software sources doesn't have the option to change release type) and I can't even get the usb-creator package to get reinstall the OS.  Any suggestions?
[04:00] <aboucher> what is there to lack
[04:00] <textex> can another screen fuck up the whole os?
[04:00] <airtonix> jacquesdupontd, are you talking about the white text on the right?
[04:00] <trism> losha: it is more upstart having no standard way of disabling services at this point than gdm
[04:00] <textex> or is that it is trigging another driver?
[04:00] <spiky25> aboucher do you can read in french ???
[04:00] <Quan-Time_> textex: gpu ?
[04:00] <syk> !language
[04:00] <aboucher> no
[04:01] <greezmunkey> spiky25, The one benefit it does have is that you can get used to Ubuntu, and even save config files etc. for use later in a full install.
[04:01] <jacquesdupontd> yes
[04:01] <airtonix> jacquesdupontd, if so that is called conky
[04:01] <jacquesdupontd> airtonix,
[04:01] <textex> Quan-Time_ i didnt understand that one?
[04:01] <airtonix> !info conky | jacquesdupontd
[04:01] <jacquesdupontd> conky comes with the application ?
[04:01] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[04:01] <jacquesdupontd> i think i have it
[04:01] <Quan-Time_> textex: you are having screen issues ?
[04:01] <jhonyok> alguien por ahì
[04:02] <jhonyok> español
[04:02] <nytek_> conky <3
[04:02] <jhonyok> hola
[04:02] <jhonyok> buenas
[04:02] <jhonyok> si hola
[04:02] <FloodBot1> jhonyok: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:02] <maco> !es  jhonyok
[04:02] <maco> !es |  jhonyok
[04:02] <spiky25> aboucher if you read french > www.ubuntu-fr.org documentation and forums and www.framasoft.org for ubuntu pdf book to help you ...
[04:02] <Quan-Time_> #ubuntu-es ?
[04:02] <jhonyok> ocuh perdon
[04:02] <textex> Quan-Time_ Well i installed ubuntu now. It works fine on my VGA screen, but i want to use it as a media center so i tried connecting it to my tv using a dvi card and dvi-hdmi converter. But now it gets weird
[04:02] <aboucher> spiky i can't read french
[04:02] <jacquesdupontd> airtonix, how comes my alt+f2 is not working to launch an app
[04:02] <jhonyok> how are you
[04:02] <jhonyok> i need help
[04:03] <Quan-Time_> textex: ok.. GPU.. ie: what video card.. ati or nvidia ?
[04:03] <airtonix> jacquesdupontd, are you running compiz?
[04:03] <maco> jhonyok: state your problem
[04:03] <textex> Its a ibm card
[04:03] <Quan-Time_> jhonyok: ask your question.. dont ask to ask a question
[04:03] <textex> using intel chipset i think
[04:03] <Quan-Time_> textex: on board video ?
[04:03] <ne171pro> I can't uninstall in software, it says "waiting for other software managers"  Help me?
[04:03] <ne171pro> any*
[04:04] <textex> Quan-Time_ no, its a standalone card that followed the pc, the vga is onboard
[04:04] <Quan-Time_> ne171pro: tried restarting your session ?
[04:04] <airtonix> ne171pro, try logging out then back in
[04:04] <maco> ne171pro: if you have other synaptics or something open, close them
[04:04] <ne171pro> i did :(
[04:04] <spiky25> there is also the ubuntu pocket guide pdf freely availaible somewhere for english readers ... french community is better structured than english ubuntu community, weird but true, they are almost more advanced than www.ubuntu.com website ...
[04:04] <jhonyok> i do wish make whit virtual box, load my HD c: how are this?
[04:04] <maco> ne171pro: maybe its checking for updates right now?
[04:04] <greezmunkey> textex, you may have fewer issues if you start you computer with your tv attached, just a thought from a tutorial I read.
[04:04] <aboucher> how can they be more advanced than ubuntu.com?
[04:04] <maco> jhonyok: it can't. you have to install inside virtualbox. it cant load your existing windows install
[04:04] <spiky25> try www.ubuntu1501.com and www.ubuntumini.com it should help you a lot ...
[04:05] <textex> Quan-Time_ no, its a standalone card that followed the pc, the vga is onboard
[04:05] <losha> spiky25: sometimes these things are due to the efforts of just one dedicated individual...
[04:05] <maco> aboucher: very very organized
[04:05] <Quan-Time_> textex: OK.. so what is plugged into what ? you have your onboard plugged into your htpc ?
[04:05] <aboucher> i am officially switching to another distro
[04:05] <losha> aboucher: which one?
[04:05] <textex> Quan-Time_ i think its something about "intelfb"
[04:05] <maco> aboucher: have fun
[04:05] <aboucher> slackware and fedora
[04:05] <Quan-Time_> textex: need to explain your config / setup clearly.. before we can start trouble shooting it
[04:05] <textex> Quan-Time_ Well first i had my regular vga screen plugged into the onboard vga card. It worked fine
[04:05] <losha> aboucher: slackware's a bad idea, but fedora looks ok....
[04:06] <Quan-Time_> textex: yup.. go on
[04:06] <aboucher> what's wrong with slackware
[04:06] <textex> Quan-Time_ Then i tried unplugging the vga screen.
[04:06] <jhonyok> I would like to load, the data I have on my hard x loaded into virtual box
[04:06] <losha> aboucher: it's off-topic, can't talk about it here...
[04:06] <spiky25> aboucher better documentation with a book maded for each ubuntu release and a custom made live usb setup with portables applications for windows and mac, persistent datas and shared profiles for firefox, thunderbird and pidgin ...
[04:06] <Quan-Time_> aboucher: try linux mint.. might go ok.. else look on distrowatch for what takes your fancy
[04:06] <ne171pro> What could be running? keeping from installing or uninstalling
[04:06] <textex> Quan-Time_ And connecting the tv to the dvi-i card
[04:06] <adm1> aboucher, slackware used to not track dependencies
[04:06] <adm1> aboucher, not sure if that's still the case
[04:07] <textex> Quan-Time_ When trying to start ubuntu now, i get that error.
[04:07] <jhonyok> maco where your from?
[04:07] <losha> adm1: it still doesn't. I tried building Handbrake on it. Oy vey...
[04:07] <madPJKfan> hey everybody - quick Q - if I install Ubuntu from the online installer - does this automatically dual-boot windows, or does it wipe the doze installation - I have XP...
[04:07] <Quan-Time_> uh.. ok.. textex.. i think it could be your cable config, OR in your bios on your computer.. its telling the hardare what to use...
[04:07] <maco> jhonyok: the best you can do is install something inside virtualbox then set up a shared directory and copy data over
[04:07] <adm1> losha, that's a cluster .....
[04:07] <jacquesdupontd> airtonix, right
[04:07] <maco> jhonyok: im from estados unidos
[04:07] <spiky25> linux mint, ultimate edition and super os could be decent ubuntu variations for beginners also ...
[04:08] <jacquesdupontd> airtonix, and i'm on kubuntu don't know where to set shortcuts
[04:08] <Quan-Time_> textex: i HATE to not finish this, but i have a matter i gotta step out for thats just popped up.. so i cant finish helping.. but im sure others can
[04:08] <Quan-Time_> goodluck
[04:08] <Quan-Time_> <-- afk
[04:08] <jacob_> what would cause the terminal to fail to find a package when the command is correct and the package exists?
[04:08] <textex> Quan-Time_ thanks for trying
[04:08] <airtonix> jacquesdupontd, sorry i can't help you. I'm not familiar with kde
[04:08] <grandpapc> Hi. I have a problem. I'm using UNR Karmic on an MSI WindTop AE1900W, and when it returns from suspend the brightness is low. ACPI doesn't seem to work right, the brightness and volume buttons don't function at all. BUT, pm-suspend --quirk-s3-bios works great, the brightness is great returning from suspend
[04:08] <maco> jacquesdupontd: what about kde?
[04:08] <aboucher> jacob, you need the uh
[04:08] <aboucher> jacob, i forgot what it's called
[04:09] <textex> anyone else got any input on this+
[04:09] <jhonyok> jeje i do speak spanish, but treat of write english thank maco
[04:09] <aboucher> jacob, you need to repo source
[04:09] <pyrophelia> is there a tool to check the consistancy of ext4 volumes?
[04:10] <jacob_> and how would I do that?
[04:10] <maco> pyrophelia: fsck
[04:10] <losha> jacob_: a typo in the package name?
[04:10] <spiky25> grandpapc some troubles like this can come from a different bios version, my dell inspiron 1501 need a specific bios version to have all fonctions without patching ...
[04:10] <maco> jacob_: if new install, you might need to run "sudo apt-get update" first
[04:10] <pyrophelia> what's the difference between fsck and e2fsck?
[04:10] <madPJKfan> helloooo...
[04:10] <nalsa> kind of a weird new issue for me, when installing ubunu from a live CD it the computer keeps freezing; I have tried multiple different disks- same result
[04:10] <maco> pyrophelia: fsck just calls the right one
[04:10] <grandpapc> spiky25 thtat is good advice i will check the msi support site once more to see if there is a fix
[04:11] <madPJKfan> can anyone tell me does the windows installer wipe your windows installation, or does it set it up for dual boot?
[04:11] <maco> jacquesdupontd: #kubuntu may help
[04:11] <textex> anyone else here got problems with intelfb?
[04:11] <jacquesdupontd> that's ok thx
[04:11] <maco> madPJKfan: wubi? it dual boots without partitioning
[04:11] <jhonyok> thank you maco " mi idolo XD "
[04:11] <jacquesdupontd> maco, it was to have the launcher
[04:11] <madPJKfan> maco: cheers
[04:11] <maco> jacquesdupontd: which?
[04:11] <jacquesdupontd> alt + f2 shortcut, compiz + kubuntu
[04:11] <jacquesdupontd> kde
[04:11] <maco> jacquesdupontd: ah ok krunner
[04:11] <textex> anyone else here got problems with intelfb?
[04:11] <airtonix> maco, madPJKfan : wubi isn't really dual boot like you would traditionally be expecting
[04:12] <maco> airtonix: i *said* "without partitioning"
[04:12] <mr_frostee> I suggest just wiping windows all together
[04:12] <spiky25> textex the only thing I know about dvb is that mine need a firmware but I never get it working so I can't help you, check mythbuntu or mythtv documentations, forums and irc channels and mostly hope to be lucky ...
[04:12] <maco> airtonix: its still 2 OSes, option at boot, etc.....just without partitioning
[04:12] <madPJKfan> maco, airtonix:  I just saw it "formatting swap" and got scared
[04:12] <jacob_> ah...that might be the problem...  sudo apt-get update only checks a dell url.  is there a way to change where to get updates from?
[04:12] <madPJKfan> last real time I used linux was redhat 8ish...
[04:12] <maco> jacob_: system -> administration -> software sources
[04:13] <airtonix> madPJKfan, if you use wubi to install ubuntu, then the health of your ubuntu install depends on the health of your ntfs windows partition. (since wubi installs ubuntu into a disk image file on the windows partition)
[04:13] <pyrophelia> maco, I'm trying to build a 20TB volume but I can't extend it past 10TB with e2fsck saying file to large
[04:13] <Newbie-Widget> hey guys, does (x)ubuntu have the same issue as windows that if you install the OS on 1 machine, xfer the HDD to another machine, you will get problems ???
[04:13] <maco> pyrophelia: WOW
[04:13] <airtonix> madPJKfan, so don't go deleting your windows partition after install ubuntu via wubi
[04:13] <jacob_> what url should I use to get the updates?
[04:13] <pyrophelia> maco: any advice?
[04:13] <maco> pyrophelia: nope
[04:14] <madPJKfan> airtonix: sweet - that'll do me for the moment.  There is a bit of a lack of documentation on the download ubuntu page.  There is heaps on the wubi page that I am now reading - much obliged.
[04:14] <maco> jacob_: there should be checkboxes....
[04:14] <jacob_> there isn't...
[04:14] <jacquesdupontd> maco, thx working i set that in compiz commands
[04:14] <luist> hey guys i need some help here.... i have a delegate that overrides the paint function, and inside that delegate i emit the signal itemSelected(), but i cant connect it from outside the delegate... what am i doing wrong? http://pastie.org/741010
[04:14] <spiky25> man if ubuntu was like archlinux for packages, we could stay on it more easily for a lifetime ...
[04:14] <luist> ops wrong channel sry
[04:14] <pyrophelia> :( it needs to be 54 TB.  grrrr
[04:14] <maco> jacob_: there's not checkboxes for univere, multiverse, etc? and a tab with checkboxes for choosing updates, security, or proposed?
[04:15] <jacquesdupontd> wow conky is not working that well with compiz
[04:15] <mikeru> is there a Mac OS X-like character palette for ubuntu
[04:15] <airtonix> jacquesdupontd, no it won't.
[04:15] <mikeru> not the ugly applet?
[04:15] <airtonix> jacquesdupontd, you need to run it in a non compositing mode
[04:15] <maco> mikeru: i have no idea what osx does it like, but theres gucharmap
[04:15] <madPJKfan> maco, airtonix - thanx for the info.
[04:15] <madPJKfan> ...gone
[04:16] <maco> jacquesdupontd: it *can* work...i just have no idea how i made it work that one time i got it to
[04:16] <mikeru> maco: it shows all unicode characters
[04:16] <spiky25> maco www.ubuntu-fr.org click on sources.list and follow the instructions if you read french a little it will be easier ...
[04:16] <mikeru> maco: from 0000 to FFFF
[04:16] <jacob_> nothing for those.  I have an updates, 3rd party software, and authentication tab
[04:16] <pj> Hi everyone, I recently upgraded my kernel to 2.6.32-020632rc8-generic in order to get a webcam to work (and it does work with this RC kernel), but now the 3d driver for my ATI graphics chipset is disabled and won't reinstall (when I try to activate it from the hardware drivers window it simply does not change to active), can someone help me to get graphics accelleration back?
[04:16] <maco> spiky25: jacob_ you mean
[04:16] <JustMozzy> hey there, I am writing a shell script. how can I assume root credentials for commands in the script? I tried sudo echo "bla bla bla" > /etc/apache2/includes/something.conf but it didn't work
[04:16] <spiky25> oups
[04:16] <spiky25> sorry
[04:17] <mikeru> maco: http://blogs.atlassian.com/developer/2008/11/02/Character%20Palette.jpg
[04:17] <airtonix> JustMozzy, you should have a lookt at some of the nautilus-scripts to see how they do it
[04:17] <maco> jacob_: er maybe this has changed since i last used ubuntu then. i use kubuntu now
[04:17] <Newbie-Widget> hey guys, is there much difference between 8.04 and 8.04.1 ?
[04:17] <iKernel> 732.34 MB of data have to be downloaded
[04:17] <JustMozzy> airtonix: where would I find those?
[04:17] <iKernel> 64 MB of data will be freed
[04:17] <iKernel> <3
[04:17] <airtonix> JustMozzy, http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/
[04:17] <jacquesdupontd> to kill a proccess in the terminal ?
[04:17] <Andrew12> o.o
[04:17] <jacquesdupontd> !kill
[04:17] <maco> mikeru: ive never seen anything like that, sorry. i like the "related characters" though
[04:17] <JustMozzy> airtonix: thanks :)
[04:17] <scunizi> Newbie-Widget: there were a lot of fixes and upgrades with the .1 version
[04:17] <Mizuno> identify 123456
[04:17] <greezmunkey> Newbie-Widget, the reasons for problems with that in windows is a matter of hardware. Without abstracting the hardware you will have issues moving hard drives between machines with different hardware sets.
[04:17] <Newbie-Widget> ok cool, thnc scunixi
[04:18] <echotone> i coudnt use the live cd to install ubuntu. i made an alternate disk and could install it. but when i try to boot into it, the same problem happens and it freezes at a black sscreen for ever. and ever.
[04:18] <Newbie-Widget> scunizi*
[04:18] <Kind_bud> man, I need to get a 3d card
[04:18] <grandpapc> spiky25 i can't find a bios update on google or the msi support/download page for the model, is there a way to make the s3bios quirk "stick" in karmic? I've tried several and none work so far. I even installed s2ram and s2disk but the result is the same. only pm-suspend --quirk-s3-bios from the command line works
[04:18] <greezmunkey> Newbie-Widget, The short answer is yes if the hardware is substantially differant
[04:18] <spiky25> 8.04 , 8.04.1 .2 or .3 are just updated versions
[04:18] <mikeru> quite sad···
[04:18] <scunizi> Newbie-Widget: which brings to mind.. if you install that don't up grade to 10.04 LTS until it's 10.04.1
[04:18] <airtonix> jacquesdupontd, if you want to find out more about conky then have a browse through the crunchbang forums. several good threads about conky there
[04:19] <mikeru> at least gucharmap looks acceptable
[04:19] <Newbie-Widget> greezmunkey: does that mean if i were to install ubuntu on a hdd and move it to another pc, ill get the same problem ?
[04:19] <sebsebseb> scunizi: don't upgrade untill 10.04.1  if doing 8.04 LTS, why?
[04:19] <jacquesdupontd> killall
[04:19] <jacquesdupontd> works fine thx airtonix
[04:19] <jacob_> maco: i'm running 8.04, which sites give a walk-through on how to upgrade.  The features that those ask me to change are not on my software sources.  I'm trying to set up a bootable usb to wipe and reinstall, but I can't get the usb-creator package mentioned on ubuntu support's walkthrough.
[04:19] <jacquesdupontd> airtonix, i'm reading help
[04:20] <airtonix> jacquesdupontd, http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/59/my-conky-config/
[04:20] <jacquesdupontd> should work good thx
[04:20] <scunizi> sebsebseb: on an lts release the .1 is like a large service pack.. they've ironed out the upgrade bugs and other things.
[04:20] <spiky25> grandpapc maybe a patch will do check a little www.ubuntu1501.com search bios and seek what it say and check for your computer model by google after ...
[04:20] <maco> jacob_: usb-creator-gtk maybe? i dont know, sorry
[04:20] <sebsebseb> scunizi: are you sure about that?
[04:20] <mikeru> maco: is there anyway you can insert control characters with it ?
[04:20] <grandpapc> spiky25 i have googled extensively for days to solve this and tried many things and come up with only the command line that works...
[04:20] <pj> jacob_: I think usb_creator was not available in 8.04.
[04:21] <scunizi> sebsebseb: that's what's happened to me in the last upgrade.. things just get more stable after .1
[04:21] <Newbie-Widget> basically my laptop cd drive is dead, i cant boot from usb and i have no floppy :S ,,, i took out the hdd from the laptop, connected it via USB to my main tower, installed ubuntu, took it out and put back in my laptop.. it loads to desktop (though touchpad doesnt work)
[04:21] <mikeru> maco: nevermind
[04:21] <spiky25> LTS just mean better for servers but for normal peoples almost every stable release will do well ...
[04:21] <maco> jacob_: for the sources, http://paste.ubuntu.com/340310/ try putting that in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:21] <sebsebseb> spiky25: yeah that's the kind of thing I am thinking as well
[04:21] <Newbie-Widget> i got some links last night in this IRC chat, but Im not very skilled enough and dont really understand it :S
[04:21] <datakid> I've just downloaded the ubuntu 9.10 desktop cd to install with, but it's not recognised on reboot? The cd drive is the first boot device, but nada
[04:22] <scunizi> spiky25: releases between lts releases aren't always stable
[04:22] <datakid> md5sums is correct too
[04:22] <pj> Newbie-Widget: I would install ubuntu-minimal on the HDD, transfer it back to the laptop, then complete the install from there (you can install the ubuntu-desktop package once it is back in the laptop).
[04:22] <echotone> datakid: try making an alternate cd.
[04:22] <maco> mikeru: you should be able to enter unicode characters by hitting ctrl+shift+U (itll then show an underlined u) and typing the codepoint in hex and hitting enter
[04:22] <zhane> how to make vlc as the default player to play http://www.mediacorpradio.sg/mediaplayer/player_yes.asp?varKey=01045393001 in firefox?
[04:22] <spiky25> grandpapc build a sh script and make it launch at every boot if you don't see another solution ...
[04:23] <mikeru> maco: sure, but it's nice to see which one is which
[04:23] <jacquesdupontd> ok i'm recording the desktop with vlc i'm gonna see what it looks like
[04:23] <Newbie-Widget> pj: that's what i tried to do, but im not 100% sure when to stop the installation. Do I stop after the copying files process ?
[04:23] <mikeru> maco: View->By Unicode Block
[04:23] <spiky25> usb-creator is 9.04 and more only as I remember
[04:23] <maco> mikeru: i meant for when you get a few memorized ;)
[04:23] <jacquesdupontd> thx for all the advice i was finding at the same time :)
[04:23] <sebsebseb> maco: what are the point releases for LTS about is it true what scunizi  said  things become more stable etc ?
[04:23] <Kind_bud> how much video ram do you need to run compiz?
[04:23] <mikeru> maco: (:
[04:23] <grandpapc> spiky25 how would it interrupt the normal suspend procedure? do you mean turn off suspend in power management and run a script that runs suspend when user activity stops? Sorry I'm not a linux expert
[04:23] <maco> sebsebseb: they're just the updates to that point packaged up and put on a cd
[04:23] <spiky25> maybe there a ppa for it in lauchpad ...
[04:24] <sebsebseb> maco: so not just security updates? ,but other updates as well?
[04:24] <maco> sebsebseb: believe so
[04:24] <grandpapc> spiky25 it has to be easy this pc is for my 86 year old grandfather to learn how to email and browse the web
[04:24] <Newbie-Widget> unless anyone knows where to download a CD that allows me to boot from USB devices ? ive only seen tutorials on how to make em
[04:24] <maco> sebsebseb: but i dont roll the cds, so im not 100% positive
[04:24] <scunizi> sebsebseb: and you doughted me.. :)
[04:24] <spiky25> sebsebseb LTS is made for servers or little linux users only mostly ...
[04:24] <scunizi> little linux users?
[04:24] <arghh2d2> thus the nick grandpapc, it all makes sense now
[04:25] <scunizi> spiky25: what's a "little linux user"..
[04:25] <airtonix> scunizi, people like me who rummage through the sewers for muck
[04:25] <arghh2d2> i thought maybe we were talkin about an i386 or a commadore 64
[04:25] <spiky25> grandpapc I'm not an expert also, I just tell you what I know that could help you even just a little ...
[04:25] <sebsebseb> scunizi: well I already knew that your an LTS fan,  and I am not sure if it's the best advice to tell people not to get the latest LTS untill a point release.  Surely an LTS is good when it comes out?  or well meant to be
[04:25] <datakid> echotone, thanks
[04:25] <rodgerr> nytek_: SKYPE - spent the last hour trying to find my profile for skype to edit it - turns out the linux version does not give access to the profile!!!
[04:25] <mr_frostee> C64
[04:26] <scunizi> airtonix: I thought he was saying I was short or something :)
[04:26] <spiky25> little mean not often just sometimes if you prefer ...
[04:26] <airtonix> scunizi, no just calling us peseants
[04:26] <sebsebseb> scunizi: and maco  seems to know about that kind of stuff, hence why I asked her
[04:26] <scunizi> sebsebseb: no.. I run lts, 8.10 and 9.10
[04:26] <maco> sebsebseb: we certainly dont get nearly enough testers til after release, so a LOT of updates come through the first month
[04:27] <arghh2d2> 9.10 isnt lts is it?
[04:27] <scunizi> sebsebseb: 9.10 I run ubuntu and kubuntu.. I rather like kubuntu now.. very slick
[04:27] <maco> scunizi: 8.10 and 9.10 arent lts
[04:27] <scunizi> maco: I know.. that's why I made the differentiation
[04:27] <pj> Newbie-Widget: you can get cd's that you can use to boot to a usb stick, but that requires that you have a working cd drive.
[04:27] <maco> scunizi: ahhh ok
[04:27] <bazhang> Newbie-Widget, unetbootin to write a ubuntu iso to usb stick for booting
[04:27] <maco> scunizi: i misparsed
[04:27] <grandpapc> Can anyone help me? The MSI Wind Top AE1900w (UNR karmic) suspends fine, but the brightness isn't set correctly when returning. Running pm-suspend --quirk-s3-bios from the command line works, but I'm not sure how to make it stick, I've put it in /etc/acpi/sleep.sh and tried disabling the code that removes the quirks from /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d but nothing works
[04:28] <grandpapc> I also edited /etc/default/grub and added i915.modeset=0 to the defaults.
[04:28] <pj> Hi everyone, I recently upgraded my kernel to 2.6.32-020632rc8-generic in order to get a webcam to work (and it does work with this RC kernel), but now the 3d driver for my ATI graphics chipset is disabled and won't reinstall (when I try to activate it from the hardware drivers window it simply does not change to active), can someone help me to get graphics accelleration back?
[04:28] <zhane> how to make vlc as the default player to play http://www.mediacorpradio.sg/mediaplayer/player_yes.asp?varKey=01045393001 in firefox?
[04:28] <airtonix> Newbie-Widget, i assume : 1) you're using karmic 2) you've already tried usb-creator-gtk ?
[04:28] <scunizi> sebsebseb: no matter what release.. try running your everyday stuff from a TTY sometime.. without the gui.. now that can be a learning experience :)
[04:29] <sebsebseb> maco: maybe if the first beta wasn't in March for 10.04, but earlier instead, that would have helped quite a bit with bug testing,  anyway off topic now
[04:29] <jacquesdupontd> vlc is mervelous to record desktop on the computer
[04:29] <jacquesdupontd> it works perfectly
[04:29] <ne171pro> I cannot figure this out, cant uninstall or add software.  I tried rebooting
[04:30] <maco> sebsebseb: in 10.04 the beta was moved 2 weeks earlier, i think. and we're having 2 of them
[04:30] <spiky25> I run Slitaz 2.0 on an old ibm thinkpad 240 laptop that seem like a netbook or ultraportable, archlinux 64 bits on an i7 desktop and ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS 32 bits on a dell inspiron 1501 (for 32 bits repositories not available for 64 bits users and stability for my work laptop mostly)
[04:30] <arghh2d2> scunizi: i run 90 % of my linux box in cli
[04:30] <ne171pro> It tells me "waiting for other softwarere managers to close........
[04:30] <maco> sebsebseb: basically the last alpha was renamed "beta 1"....because people are allergic to the word "alpha" :P
[04:31] <darkscrypt> what packages do i need installed on ubuntu server inorder to do x11 forwarding, but not actually run an xserver
[04:31] <spiky25> zhane use mplayer plugin it will do better with proper codecs ...
[04:31] <darkscrypt> i want to forward x11 traffic through putty to another machine
[04:31] <zhane> spiky25: vlc player no gd?
[04:31] <sebsebseb> maco: the scheduled says March 18th for beta 1, but this is off topic now also
[04:31] <scunizi> arghh2d2: fun isn't it?
[04:31] <maco> sebsebseb: there has historically been only 1 beta. 10.04's beta 1 is a few weeks earlier than beta normally is...at the time that the last alpha normally is
[04:31] <rCX> ne171pro: Well there's a bug report about this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/444168
[04:32] <spiky25> mplayer outperform vlc cause vlc don't use codecs so mplayer will show a better output mostly ...
[04:32] <sebsebseb> maco: oh ok
[04:32] <sebsebseb> maco: thanks
[04:32] <arghh2d2> scunizi: yeah, keep it all in gnu screen and log in/out start/stop X and never miss a beat..i love it
[04:32] <Newbie-Widget> sry back,, my CD drive "kinda" works, I can put discs in and it picks them up. a Ubuntu disc it can load to the initial screen and u choose to do mem tests, install ubuntu (text mode) ect.. just reading the files n such
[04:33] <spiky25> sudo pacman -Ss mplayer > what in ubuntu cli ???
[04:33] <Flannel> spiky25: What does pacman -Ss do?
[04:33] <Flare-Laptop> Isn't pacman for Arch Linux?
[04:33] <arghh2d2> pacman is arch lol
[04:33] <Newbie-Widget> i cant boot from USB though as the laptop doesnt give the option.. i only have option  to boot from HDD / CD / Network (network setup too much for my brain)
[04:33] <rCX> ne171pro: Try the suggestions in the comments section of the report.
[04:33] <echotone> Can i disable my splash while my hdd is mounted from puppy linux? I am having trouble logging in to ubuntu9.10
[04:33] <SuperMiguel> beside eclipse is there any other good C IDE??
[04:33] <spiky25> search a package or named like it ...
[04:33] <Flannel> SuperMiguel: Check out anjuta
[04:34] <Flannel> spiky25: apt-cache search [foo]
[04:34] <arghh2d2> spiky25: wrong channel?
[04:34] <Mizuno> Who can take a afternoon tea with me at Shanghai today？
[04:34] <Flare-Laptop> SuperMiguel: I like CodeBlocks
[04:34] <scunizi> arghh2d2: mutt, finch, irssi, links2, lynx or w3m.. what else is there? oh.. nano, vi, etc
[04:34] <Newbie-Widget> Ubuntu version 9.04 is what i have atm (for etsting) but im gonna put on 8.04 (which i think is hardy)
[04:34] <Newbie-Widget> i hear that one's pretty good
[04:34] <Newbie-Widget> laptop is pretty old too.
[04:34] <robbmunson> spiky25: sudo aptitude search mplayer
[04:34] <Flannel> arghh2d2: No, right channel.
[04:34] <spiky25> yep I'm mostly an Archlinux user so I wanna give him the ubuntu cli commands ...
[04:34] <Flannel> robbmunson, spiky25: you don't need sudo to search.
[04:34] <robbmunson> Flannel: well, yeah..I kinda went overboard, caught my mistake after I hit return
[04:34] <spiky25> thanks !!!
[04:35] <Newbie-Widget> atm i cant find anything in the mouse options about the Touchpad.. its non responsive
[04:35] <arghh2d2> Flannel: ? right channel?  he's on ubuntu suggesting arch package manager
[04:35] <robbmunson> Flannel: thanks for spotting my glitch in typing ;)
[04:35] <Flannel> arghh2d2: No, he's asking for the equivalent in Ubuntu.
[04:35] <scunizi> Newbie-Widget: 8.04 will be end of life next year.. so will 9.04.. whichever you want.. but you'll be forced into an upgrade next year for security updates regardless.
[04:35] <arghh2d2> i see
[04:35] <robbmunson> spiky25: sure :)
[04:35] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: try 9.04 :)
[04:35] <spiky25> I'm always on my root account on Archlinux that why I forgot about sudo ...
[04:35] <Flannel> Newbie-Widget, scunizi: 8.04 lasts until April of 2011
[04:35] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: 8.04 is a bit to old now in a way, for  a lot of us, and jauntey is a pretty good release
[04:36] <echotone> I cant use ubuntu. it doesnt get past the white ubuntu logo. does anybody know anything about that?
[04:36] <Newbie-Widget> how well does the new stuff run on old laptops though
[04:36] <robbmunson> spiky25: yeah, but you dont need sudo to search for packages with aptitude ;)
[04:36] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: if that doesn't work properly for you then sure you could try 8.04
[04:36] <Newbie-Widget> im not really going to be using it full on, just a lil media players
[04:36] <Newbie-Widget> played*
[04:36] <robbmunson> spiky25: just to install :)
[04:36] <Newbie-Widget> player**
[04:36] <squidbilly> Newbie: or try xubuntu
[04:36] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: How much RAM?
[04:36] <scunizi> Flannel: ah.. I was wrong.. I thought one LTS replaced the other.. but it is 3 years not 2 so there's some overlap.. merry christmas by the way?
[04:36] <rCX> echotone: Are you trying to use a live cd?  Or is it installed?
[04:36] <scunizi> !
[04:36] <scunizi> Flannel: by the way!
[04:37] <Newbie-Widget> only 256 atm but i have more and a 2nd slot, gonna test out other 256 sticks to take it to 512
[04:37] <Flannel> scunizi: Yeah, three years on the desktop precisely so there's overlap.  You get a year to plan you're upgrade.  Merry Christmas to you too.
[04:37] <Newbie-Widget> Aquid, yeh i want to mainly put xubuntu on but the xubuntu IRC always seems dead, so i came heer
[04:37] <sebsebseb> squidbilly: Newbie-Widget  or LXDE or whatever, there are loads of light waight things that can be run
[04:37] <exploreralex> hi, i just downloaded a theme. it is a .tar.gz file. now i don't know how to install it. it opens in archive manager.
[04:37] <Newbie-Widget> i mean Squid :p
[04:37] <sebsebseb> Fluxbox etc
[04:38] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: How much RAM?
[04:38] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: ok 256MB
[04:38] <echotone> rCX: i cant use a live cd. i made an alternate cd and it installed but i had the same problem of it freezing after the white ubuntu logo.
[04:38] <scunizi> exploreralex: in most releases open the theme manager and just drag and drop the tar.gz to it
[04:38] <Newbie-Widget> sebsebseb: 256mb atm
[04:38] <Newbie-Widget> but can upgrade
[04:38] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: 9.04 should run with 256MB RAM, and  it will with 512MB
[04:38] <Newbie-Widget> add to 2nd slot
[04:38] <exploreralex> scunizi: okay thanks. i
[04:38] <exploreralex> ll try
[04:39] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: the other hardware should be alright, well it's a desktop PC, how old?
[04:39] <echotone> if anybody can help me with my problem, please move to #xubuntu
[04:39] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: it is a desktop isn't it?
[04:39] <spiky25> Newbie-Widget: forget the extra ram if you use 9.10 install lubuntu-desktop then remove ubuntu-desktop correctly
[04:39] <Newbie-Widget> nah, Laptop
[04:39] <Newbie-Widget> 1.4ghz
[04:39] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: have you tested an Ubuntu Live CD on there already nope?
[04:39] <pj> Can anyone help me with this?  I recently upgraded my kernel to 2.6.32-020632rc8-generic in order to get a webcam to work (and it does work with this RC kernel), but now the 3d driver for my ATI graphics chipset is disabled and won't reinstall (when I try to activate it from the hardware drivers window it simply does not change to active), can someone help me to get graphics accelleration back?
[04:39] <Newbie-Widget> maybe 7yrs roughly
[04:40] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: RAM might not be an issue, but wireless could be
[04:40] <Newbie-Widget> sebsebseb: can't, cd rom dopesnt work properly
[04:40] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: USB works though?
[04:40] <Newbie-Widget> USB works, but cant boot from USB devices
[04:40] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget:  hmm which leaves a netinstall and wubi  for installing Ubuntu hmm, unless you put the hard disk in another computer and do it
[04:41] <LaHire> hello everyone
[04:41] <spiky25> Newbie-Widget: lubuntu-desktop is a set of ubuntu packages that will use lxde desktop manager instead of gnome and that use less ram ...
[04:41] <LaHire> Questio: Does anybode tested 9.10 on a Lenovo T60?
[04:41] <sebsebseb> spiky25: seems we got another issue now, how are they going to get Ubuntu on there in the first place
[04:41] <spiky25> that doesn't mean desktop as desktop computer and can be used on a laptop without trouble
[04:41] <pyrophelia> is there a command to make sure u installed the x64 version?
[04:41] <Newbie-Widget> sebsebseb: I have the option to Net boot in the laptop BIOS, but i dont know how to get it up and running, i checked the tuts but cant work it out
[04:42] <boomernang> pyrophelia, _, uname -a
[04:42] <sebsebseb> !install | Newbie-Widget
[04:42] <wgrant> pyrophelia: dpkg --print-architecture
[04:42] <Newbie-Widget> spiky25: thanks, ill check it out.. i was gonna use xubuntu as i hear is more lighter then the others
[04:42] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: not sure if it mentions the net install, I guess it does
[04:42] <spiky25> he could install ubuntu by the minimal cd ...
[04:42] <LaHire> Question: Does anybode tested 9.10 on a Lenovo T60? :D
[04:42] <spiky25> lubuntu is way lighter than xubuntu but less known
[04:42] <Newbie-Widget> sebsebseb: it does mention many ways, but i still dont understand it. the ones i found in there require a Floppy drive, which i dont have for it :S
[04:43] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: LXDE/lubuntu is probably more light waight then XFCE/Xubuntu
[04:43] <scunizi> chrunchbang spiky25 .. check it out
[04:43] <pj> Newbie-Widget: look here for different install options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[04:43] <lakotajames> Hi guys.  I'm trying to install linux on my wii, and it involves coping a filesystem to an sd card.  The file system is in a tar file.  When I try to extract it from the terminal, it gives me errors about "No such file or directory" for almost every file.  if I do it with the file roller program, I get errors about not being able to move special files.  help please?
[04:43] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: it's got Windows on there at the moment?
[04:43] <pyrophelia> arg this is frustrating. why won't e2fsck check a 20TB volume? it keeps saying, file to large
[04:43] <karma_police> how hard is it to network ubuntu?
[04:43] <b00tsRandolph> Seems like the weight of different Ubuntu installs was discussed on Lifrehacker recently. Lemme see if I can find the article...
[04:43] <spiky25> try Slitaz 2.0 live cd if you wanna try lxde first a little without installing it > 30Mb live cd isn't too much ...
[04:43] <sebsebseb> !details |  karma_police
[04:43] <LaHire> Hi everyone! Question: Does anybode tested 9.10 on a Lenovo T60? :D
[04:44] <Newbie-Widget> pj: checked that last night, the ones i saw require a floppy, otherwise somthing about installing grub
[04:44] <rCX> echotone: The live cd would not work and you installed it anyways?
[04:44] <spiky25> karma_police try samba for network drives with windows computers on linux
[04:44] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: has it got Windows on it at the moment?
[04:44] <pj> Newbie-Widget: does your CD drive work at all, or is it completely toast?
[04:44] <Mizuno> who can tell me ubuntu can be installed at levono x200
[04:44] <Newbie-Widget> sebsebseb: nah, no windows.. earlier i took it out of the Laptop, connected via USB in my tower and installed that way.. i got it installed, but am having issues with devices
[04:44] <Mizuno> who can tell me ubuntu can be installed at levono x200
[04:45] <echotone> rCX: the live cd wouldnt work so i made an alternate cd and it worked. but my machine wont boot into ubuntu
[04:45] <karma_police> i want to set my ubuntu 9.10 to share music files over the network for other ubuntu computers and possible windows pc's also
[04:45] <LaHire> Mizuno: thinkwiki, maybe? :3
[04:45] <Random832> pyrophelia, there are issues with filesystems over 16TB
[04:45] <Newbie-Widget> pj: dont think it "completely" toast.. it can still boot the discs ok, just cant read the data needed to copy
[04:45] <sebsebseb> !samba |  karma_police
[04:45] <spiky25> xubuntu is big as ubuntu and kubuntu so don't use xubuntu for it's no use ...
[04:45] <karma_police> does samba need to be on the windows pc's too?
[04:45] <sebsebseb> karma_police: no
[04:45] <pj> Newbie-Widget: try the minimal CD install method, it just needs to boot the CD and will download all the packages from the internet.
[04:45] <karma_police> can the linux boxes use samba to communicate too or do i need nfs for that also?
[04:46] <lakotajames> Hi guys.  I'm trying to install linux on my wii, and it involves coping a filesystem to an sd card.  The file system is in a tar file.  When I try to extract it from the terminal, it gives me errors about "No such file or directory" for almost every file.  if I do it with the file roller program, I get errors about not being able to move special files.  help please?
[04:46] <sebsebseb> karma_police: Did you buy the music?
[04:46] <spiky25> lubuntu is now installable on ubuntu 9.10 variants with the lubuntu-desktop package so it should be way better than xubuntu ...
[04:46] <LaHire> dos anybody have a Lenovo T60
[04:46] <LaHire> ?
[04:46] <pj> the CD image is only 12MB for minimal install, so chances are your "not completely toast" cd drive can read it.
[04:46] <karma_police> lol.. no  i have about 300gb of bought and dl'ed music
[04:46] <lakotajames> I'm having a problem extracting files from a tar to a sd card.  Help?
[04:46] <rCX> echotone: Oh I see.  Does it print any errors? By the way you should try asking this at the http://ubuntuforums.org as well
[04:46] <sebsebseb> !piracy > karma_police
[04:47] <rCX> LaHire: I have a T43
[04:47] <spiky25> lubuntu is normaly 32 bits only but ubuntu 9.10 has 64 bits version so it's better to install by the ubuntu minimal cd if you're good enough for that ...
[04:47] <Newbie-Widget> pj: thanks, i might give that a shot... though roughly what's the size of the packages ? i got little data left for the month, otherwise will have to try at work
[04:47] <sebsebseb> karma_police: to share files with Windows,  samba on the Linux box, shared folders on Windows
[04:47] <arghh2d2> spiky25: who are you talking to?
[04:48] <LaHire> well, i have issues with Ubuntu 9.10 with a lenovo T60, anybody can help around?
[04:48] <SuperMiguel> how good is cc for compiling?
[04:48] <rCX> rCX: It's very similar to a T60
[04:48] <echotone> rCX: good call. but there are threads of my same problem and nobody seems to offer any solution...i guess i could still pot my own.
[04:48] <pj> Newbie-Widget: probably about 500 meg or so, give or take.
[04:48] <echotone> rCX: my machine puts out some page of text but then it goes away, i cant read it. it doesnt seem to be an error but it must be fif my system doesnt work huh?
[04:48] <rCX> echotone: It's worth a try. Good luck
[04:49] <Newbie-Widget> pj: hmm,t hanks :)
[04:49] <pj> Newbie-Widget: yw :-)
[04:49] <spiky25> arghh2d2: someone was asking about xubuntu and was thinking about adding more ram for nothing so I suggest him that solution ...
[04:49] <pj> Newbie-Widget: and FYI, I had a similar situation a while back and the minimal install CD method worked for me.
[04:50] <arghh2d2> spiky25: crunchbang is another solution
[04:50] <rCX> echotone: what type of computer do you have?
[04:50] <spiky25> crunchbang take too long to learn, lxde is better suited for beginners ...
[04:50] <LaHire> Hi everyone! Question: Does anybode tested 9.10 on a Lenovo T60? :D
[04:50] <lakotajames> Please help me.
[04:51] <sly__> hello
[04:51] <spiky25> openbox is for middle or advanced linux users mostly ...
[04:51] <Newbie-Widget> pj: any ideas on the Touchpad ?
[04:51] <arghh2d2> lxde sucks imo
[04:51] <scunizi> LaHire: probably not since they haven't responded in the last 5 times you've asked
[04:51] <sebsebseb> !ask |  lakotajames
[04:51] <sebsebseb> arghh2d2: no it's alright
[04:51] <spiky25> lakotajames: don't ask to ask, just ask your question !!!
[04:51] <LaHire> scunizi: i know, but people keep comming in  :P
[04:51] <b00tsRandolph> At long last I find the article I was looking for regarding use of resources and different Ubuntu versions. 'Twas in Linux Mag--not Lifehacker. Duh. http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7520/1.html
[04:51] <lakotajames> sebsebseb: I did ask, and no one answered. ;_;
[04:52] <arghh2d2> sebsebseb: no, it sux
[04:52] <sebsebseb> lakotajames: well you repeate
[04:52] <TeslaTony> arghh2d2: What do you prefer for a lightweight desktop environment? (I use LXDE)
[04:52] <sebsebseb> lakotajames: aftert a while if that happens
[04:52] <lakotajames> Hi guys.  I'm trying to install linux on my wii, and it involves coping a filesystem to an sd card.  The file system is in a tar file.  When I try to extract it from the terminal, it gives me errors about "No such file or directory" for almost every file.  if I do it with the file roller program, I get errors about not being able to move special files.  help please?
[04:52] <pj> Newbie-Widget: what about the touchpad?
[04:52] <rCX> LaHire: I tested 9.10 on my T43 (which is an older version of the T60) and had few issues.
[04:52] <scunizi> LaHire: try googleing ...  Words swimmingly.
[04:53] <Newbie-Widget> pj: doesn't work at all... not sure if its missing a driver or maybe needs a configuration or somthing
[04:53] <b00tsRandolph> *Works
[04:53] <bashir> and the link from distrowatch is down
[04:53] <sebsebseb> arghh2d2: what  spiky25 said I guess
[04:53] <bashir> this is really unusual
[04:53] <datakid> I have now tried both install cds - Desktop and Alternate, neither works
[04:53] <datakid> ?
[04:53] <Newbie-Widget> pj: i know it's physically fine though
[04:53] <spiky25> nope 9.10 images are availables ...
[04:53] <scunizi> bashir: use www.ubuntu.com and you'll find it.. torrent and iso download
[04:53] <pj> Newbie-Widget: it should, "just work", try your re-install first and see if it comes to life, otherwise it could be a hardware problem.
[04:53] <sebsebseb> arghh2d2: except for how I would normalley use Gnome
[04:53] <sebsebseb> with some KDE apps etc
[04:54] <JustMozzy> weird... following sudo echo "<IP_ADDRESS> test.local" >> /etc/hosts gives me a permission denied error :s
[04:54] <Newbie-Widget> pj: hmm, ok, ill give re-install a shot, thnx :)
[04:54] <bashir> scunizi i tried, see http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[04:54] <pj> Newbie-Widget: it could be because you installed ubuntu on a different computer, so it didn't install the touchpad drivers because it didn't detect the touchpad at the time.
[04:54] <LaHire> rCX: i have checked that page, but i just wanted to ask if anyone had some issues with firefox on that notebook, 'cos it's eating up my cpu
[04:54] <bashir> scunizi there isnt a link for 64 bit
[04:54] <arghh2d2> spiky25: crunchbang's install configuration isnt hard to learn and is a hundred times better than lxde, takes the good lx stuff and leaves the lame out
[04:55] <Newbie-Widget> sry, what was the name of the other ubuntu.. lxubuntu or somthing ?
[04:55] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: right ok so touchpad not working in 9.10
[04:55] <scunizi> bashir: I'll look
[04:55] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: yes?
[04:55] <b00tsRandolph> lubuntu is one of 'em
[04:55] <spiky25> touchpad settings are in xorg.conf if I remember well check it out ...
[04:55] <Newbie-Widget> sebsebseb: using 9.04
[04:55] <sebsebseb> !touchpad | Newbie-Widget
[04:55] <Newbie-Widget> sebsebseb: thnx :)
[04:56] <sebsebseb> Newbie-Widget: I haven't been on that link yet ( or not that I remember anyway ) , but I guess it wil help
[04:56] <bashir> i cant believe it is so difficult to find an architecture disk for the most popular linux distro on the planet
[04:56] <scunizi> bashir: under the "download location" link there is another link for "alternative" downloads.. click that and you'll see the 64 bit version
[04:56] <spiky25> arghh2d2 just understand that beginners don't know enough about linux to start straight with openbox so lxde is decent and was maded for them ...
[04:56] <sebsebseb> spiky25: openbox hmm
[04:57] <sebsebseb> or Fluxbox etc
[04:57] <bashir> scunizi ah thanks.  they really should change that
[04:57] <rCX> LaHire: Hmm firefox worked fine for me.  If you are really having problems you could dowgrade from 3.5 to 3.
[04:57] <sebsebseb> spiky25: true though not many beginers using those to begin with
[04:57] <scunizi> bashir: yea.. it use to be easier
[04:57] <bashir> scunizi ya i expected it to take less than 10 seconds as usual
[04:57] <arghh2d2> spiky25: lxde isnt realy that user friendly, it tries to be and just ends up being lame
[04:57] <SuperMiguel> beside eclipse is there any other good C IDE? that i can compile and run the program inside the program?
[04:58] <sebsebseb> !ot |  arghh2d2
[04:58] <LaHire> rCX: well, maybe downgrading... i shall try that
[04:58] <spiky25> lame but decent for speed that's why many distros begin to use it ...
[04:58] <arghh2d2> sebsebseb: thats fcking hilarious coming from you when you were just arguing off topic with me...hipocrit
[04:58] <sebsebseb> arghh2d2: yeah I know :D
[04:59] <sebsebseb> arghh2d2: I did think about doing it to the three of us, but then nah
[04:59] <spiky25> linux need 500 Mhz to run well we have way more now so no need for the lightest if it mean harder for almost nothing that's all ...
[04:59] <sebsebseb> !ot |  arghh2d2 spiky25  sebsebseb
[04:59] <hoxha> i need help
[05:00] <JustMozzy> does anyone know why I can't just sudo echo "something" >>  /etc/hosts   ?
[05:00] <sebsebseb> !ask | hoxha
[05:00] <spiky25> it's like having a 4000$ computer for a grand-mother that just talk on msn, it's no use ...
[05:01] <sebsebseb> arghh2d2: that I was off topic
[05:01] <sebsebseb> hoxha: ok what do you want help with?
[05:01] <hoxha> what dose it mean when it says you dont have permission
[05:02] <sebsebseb> hoxha: depends on what your doing
[05:02] <spiky25> sebsebseb it's not offtopic it's a matter of choice and needs ...
[05:03] <spiky25> hoxda permission for ???
[05:03] <sebsebseb> spiky25: it's off topic, it's not Ubuntu support
[05:03] <hoxha> im trying to put a skin on amsn
[05:03] <hoxha> and i have to put the folder in a file
[05:03] <spiky25> hoxha >gksudo nautilus
[05:04] <hoxha> and it asks me you dont have permission
[05:04] <spiky25> be careful that way you won't need permissions but it's not recommanded ...
[05:04] <pyrophelia> Random832, what kind of issues? I amusing ext4. it should be able to check and resize a 20TB volume with ease
[05:04] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  hoxha
[05:04] <Madpilot> hoxha, the system parts of your Linux install are owned by the system, not by your user
[05:04] <spiky25> open your terminal for that > applications > accessories > terminal
[05:05] <Random832> pyrophelia, I am not sure if all the tools have been updated for it. If the tool you are using says it's too big, it probably hasn't.
[05:05] <pyrophelia> dkfkjfkdjg
[05:05] <pyrophelia> well fudge
[05:05] <hoxha> wow thanks dam!
[05:05] <sebsebseb> hoxha: be careful with that
[05:05] <sebsebseb> hoxha: also open it with gksudo also
[05:05] <sebsebseb> always open with gksudo
[05:06] <gotmilk82> bump
[05:06] <theadmin> sebsebseb: Or, rather, gksu... gksudo is just an alias
[05:06] <datakid> when I boot up, neither of the cds Alternate or Desktop will boot. When I go into the BIOS, there's the line (not present) next to the CDROM option. Despite the fact that once the current ubuntu install (8.10) is loaded, cd-drive works fine?
[05:06] <pyrophelia> random832, why the heck would they make ext4 the default fs if they can't even use it right?
[05:07] <spiky25> hpxha nothing I learned that way, if you want a graphical gksudo use PCmanFM to do it faster ...
[05:07] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: oh dear your using for a 20TB volume?
[05:07] <pyrophelia> huh?
[05:08] <spiky25> you won't have to remember gksudo that way but remember to be careful cause as root you could easily destroy your linux setup in no time at all ...
[05:08] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: oh looking at scroll back uhmm
[05:09] <airtonix> spiky25, or you could use a natilus script to do the same thing
[05:09] <Dyinglight12> hi
[05:09] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: Don't use Ext4 for large amounts of important data! Data might get currupted even,  that's mentioned in the 9.10 release notes.
[05:09] <Dyinglight12> i need majoir help
[05:09] <robbmunson> !ask | Dyinglight12
[05:09] <spiky25> sebsebseb what would be the best way to install ubuntu offline and get my wireless working directly without an internet access ?
[05:09] <pyrophelia> sebsebseb, it needs to be 60TB but I'm having trouble getting past 16. ubuntu must not have updated the e2fsck tool
[05:10] <Dyinglight12> i need help with unetbootin
[05:10] <Dyinglight12> if anyone knows wat that is :P
[05:10] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: XFS would probably be a better choice in your case, it's been around much longer, so way more stable.  etc
[05:10] <robbmunson> Dyinglight12: just ask your question, im sure someone will be able to help..
[05:10] <theadmin> Dyinglight12: Well, not a place to ask... PM me, I can help.
[05:10] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: or maybe even Ext3 in your case, but I woudn't trust Ext4 for what your doing
[05:10] <pyrophelia> yea but not as fast
[05:10] <theadmin> Dyinglight12: Unetbootin is hardly related to Ubuntu at all, you see :D
[05:10] <gotmilk82> pyrophelia: I run XFS and it works really well..
[05:11] <pyrophelia> sebsebseb, ext3 doesn't support volumes larger than 16TB
[05:11] <spiky25> airtonix: yep on linux there's almost everytime many ways to do something more than 10 ways sometimes so I just tell the easiest to peoples ...
[05:11] <gotmilk82> I use it to record two movies, convert 2/3 more and play one....works fine
[05:11] <netyire> hello! how do I set the owner of a folder?
[05:11] <gotmilk82> chown
[05:11] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: and I quite like Ext4 myself, well I did with Ubuntu 9.04,  I got speed improvements when / was done  in it, but wasn't perfectly stable there.  with 9.10 it seems Ext3 and Ext4 for just standard install it doesn't really matter.
[05:11] <robbmunson> netyire: chown
[05:11] <netyire> thank you!
[05:11] <gotmilk82> np
[05:12] <spiky25> 16 TB omg big server !!!
[05:12] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: it's a server?
[05:12] <pyrophelia> technically 60TB
[05:12] <sebsebseb> !reiser |  pyrophelia
[05:12] <airtonix> spiky25, its easy : 1 ) http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/nautilus-scripts/Execute/Misc/root-nautilus-here 2) save as : ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/root-nautilus-scripts
[05:12] <pyrophelia> na, just my home theater system.
[05:12] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: don't know if resier would be a good choice, but yeah XFS,  riser, etc
[05:13] <spiky25> 60 TB omg I would be ok for a lifetime with this or almost ...
[05:13] <gotmilk82> pyrophelia that is exactly what I am doing here....xfs seems to do fine
[05:13] <pyrophelia> hmmm
[05:13] <scunizi>  spiky25 backups would be a pain
[05:13] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: Ext4 is  not exactly 100% stable yet, or as far as I know anyway, let's put it that way
[05:13] <pyrophelia> and actually no I was kidding, this is for a hd video production server
[05:14] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: hence why I woudn't trust it with big data files that I really want to be sure to keep
[05:14] <spiky25> airtonix > PCmanFM = apt://pcmanfm in firefox (ubuntu variants only)
[05:14] <pyrophelia> so speed is very important to me
[05:14] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: at this time
[05:14] <airtonix> spiky25,why do i want another file manager when nautilus does it?
[05:14] <yadudoc> Hi, I just copied an ubuntu repository from a mirror onto my external drive. Does anyone know how to add it to synaptic ?
[05:14] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: the release notes for 9.10 even mentioned a possible data curruption bug, last time I looked
[05:14] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: with Ext4
[05:14] <Random832> pyrophelia, are you on 32-bit or 64-bit?
[05:14] <pyrophelia> think I might have to change, thanks for the input
[05:14] <pyrophelia> 64
[05:15] <Random832> I'm finding some stuff online that implies that fsck supports >16TB only on 64
[05:15] <sebsebseb> !notes | pyrophelia
[05:15] <Random832> but i guess that's wrong or something - who knows
[05:15] <shaun> anyone know where to find good co-location deals ?
[05:15] <pyrophelia> I've read that as well but I'm on a 64bit system
[05:15] <shaun> :O
[05:15] <rww> !ot | shaun
[05:16] <iflema> yadudoc: a line of text begining with deb? if so >> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:16] <airtonix> !info nautilus-gksu | hoxha
[05:16] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: well people say that, can get all the proper advantages of Ext4 with XFS
[05:16] <pyrophelia> amazon C2 offers ubuntu 9.10 cloud support, but its kinda pricy
[05:16] <gotmilk82> sebsebseb do you know anything about laptops and ubuntu?
[05:17] <sebsebseb> gotmilk82: not much other than how wireless is usually an issue for people, oh and maybe sound as well
[05:17] <Geoffrey2> can anyone point me to documentation about the indicator applet?  supposedly it's installed, but it's not being displayed
[05:17] <hoxha> when i type in gksudo  what is that do?
[05:17] <rahilm> I want to merge two adjacent NTFS partitions, anyone knows how to do it
[05:17] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: Ubuntu Desktop Edition or Server?
[05:17] <pyrophelia> server
[05:17] <sebsebseb> ok that's what I thought
[05:17] <airtonix> hoxha, have a read oif the sudo page at help.ubuntu.com
[05:17] <airtonix> !sudo | hoxha
[05:17] <sebsebseb> !server |  pyrophelia
[05:17] <sacarlson> how do you configure dibbler-server to setup address range?
[05:17] <gotmilk82> sebsebseb lol....do you know if ubuntu saves any information about the different docking stations it encounters?
[05:18] <Kage_Jittai> qustion, is there a command in dpkg to check and make sure all files are setup correctly?
[05:18] <sebsebseb> gotmilk82: no
[05:18] <spiky25> nautilus is heavy more than pcmanfm that's all ...
[05:18] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: maybe you should be on 8.04 really
[05:18] <airtonix> hoxha, if you want to be able to right click and gain root access to a folder in nautilus then you need the nautilus-gksu package
[05:18] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: 8.04 with XFS maybe?
[05:18] <Kage_Jittai> I deleted a file by accident, no idea what package it belongs to, and now some programs won't run correctly
[05:18] <pyrophelia> I'm just going to reformat with xfs. ext4 is still to buggy
[05:18] <spiky25> still a matter of choice tough ...
[05:18] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: then you would need a seperate /boot partition for the old Grub as well, since you used XFS
[05:19] <airtonix> spiky25, moot point since it's already installed
[05:19] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: /boot  in Ext3  that will do it
[05:19] <pyrophelia> how so? the boot disk isn't connected to the raid what so ever
[05:19] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: oh I am on about the desktop version here, but I assume it's also the case for the server
[05:19] <gotmilk82> sebsebseb pyrophelia my home theater box is on  8.10 ubuntu with mythtv on it
[05:19] <sacarlson> any one have any luck with dibbler-server for dhcpv6 serving?
[05:19] <gotmilk82> with xfs
[05:20] <spiky25> airtonix I use minimal everytime so I choose all my softwares between all ubuntu variants as I want and need ...
[05:21] <airtonix> spiky25, so you're assuming that others do to?
[05:21] <sebsebseb> pyrophelia: I guess do what  gotmilk82 says :D
[05:21] <sacarlson> or know where to go to ask about dhcpv6 on another IRC or web?
[05:22] <spiky25> airotnix nope I suggest a way that's all
[05:22] <gotmilk82> okay...what keyboard is a US m a b?
[05:22] <spiky25> try ext2 for /boot as it don't need journalizing, 32 to 100 Mo should be enough depending or your needs ...
[05:23] <sebsebseb> spiky25: pyrophelia   Ext2 for boot that sounds more like it
[05:24] <hoxha> look what i am doing is trying to get a skin for amsn, when i download zip package and try to move it to my file system it says You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "file:///usr/share/amsn/skins"
[05:24] <sacarlson> sudo nautilus is what I used that is the command in botton on top my screen
[05:24] <sebsebseb> hoxha: AMSN hmm
[05:24] <hoxha> yes
[05:24] <sebsebseb> !msn |  hoxha
[05:24] <sebsebseb> no wrong stupid factoid
[05:24] <Newbie-Widget> i read 9.10 isnt that great, some place reviewed it and it always crashed .. is that the case now ?
[05:24] <sebsebseb> hoxha: Kmess and Emesene are also nice
[05:24] <airtonix> hoxha, http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[05:25] <spiky25> emesene now accept webcams also you could try it ...
[05:25] <spiky25> kopete will be better suited for kde users ...
[05:25] <sebsebseb> hoxha: I haven't tried emesene yet or did I, but forgot. anyway I will soon, and not in Ubuntu, and I have been told it's good by quite a lot of people
[05:25] <sacarlson> Newbie-Widget: I got it running ubuntu 9.10 in vertualbox ok
[05:26] <hoxha> yes it is
[05:26] <spiky25> without a webcam need, pidgin and empathy seem more decents to use ...
[05:26] <pyrophelia> what package do I need to install to format, grow, shrink xfs volumes?
[05:26] <sacarlson> Newbie-Widget: but I think I had problems on my laptop when I tried it there something with the video drivers
[05:26] <airtonix> hoxha, sacarlson reasons why you don't use sudo on graphical apps mentioned in the link i posted
[05:26] <hoxha> im just trying to get a skin thats all
[05:26] <hoxha> yeah
[05:26] <airtonix> hoxha, did you install nautilus-gksu ?
[05:26] <Newbie-Widget> sacarlson: ic..ic, thnx :)
[05:27] <sebsebseb> there should be a factoid that mentions the programs that can do MSN on Ubuntu,  that's what I wanted earlier, but there isn't one it seems
[05:27] <ne171pro> VENUS PROJECT
[05:27] <ne171pro> ?
[05:27] <hoxha> hold on not yet
[05:27] <airtonix> hoxha, i am assuming of course that you are running standard ubuntu with gnome
[05:27] <sebsebseb> hoxha: it might be a bit buggy, it's closed source only made by one guy, and written in Java, but there's also Mercury Messenger, which can do most MSN features and it's own stuff here and there
[05:27] <spiky25> sacarlson if you have an old ati before ati radeon hd2000 stay with the open source drivers if using ubuntu 9.04 or more
[05:28] <hoxha> i guss i am
[05:28] <hoxha> yes
[05:28] <sebsebseb> hoxha: that's also not in the repo
[05:28] <sebsebseb> !ot |  ne171pro
[05:28] <sacarlson> spiky25: seems I had a few other problems with ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop even with all open source
[05:29] <sebsebseb> ne171pro: not sure what your after also
[05:29] <spiky25> mercury has it made a lot better in 2 years cause it wasn't so good before ?
[05:29] <Newbie-Widget> can anyone give me some names of pre made USB boot cd;s ?
[05:29] <airtonix> hoxha, 1) install nautilus-gksu 2) log out then back in 3) navigate to /usr/share/amsn4) right click skins folder and choose 'open as administrator 5) do your stuff with your skins files
[05:29] <sacarlson> spiky25: even when I tried just vga
[05:29] <yadudoc> iflema, no its not a line of deb... I have an entire mirror copied..
[05:29] <sebsebseb> spiky25: I haven't used it recently
[05:29] <hoxha> ok
[05:29] <yadudoc> iflema, hence there are lots of folders and I think packeages from intrepid onwards are there
[05:30] <iflema> yadudoc: are you going to use on a machine with ni inet?
[05:30] <iflema> no
[05:30] <sacarlson> anyone know where to find info on dhcpv6 server?
[05:31] <spiky25> sacarlson I will never buy an ati or intel onboard chipset again, I'm sold to nvidia you can put a price tag on me ... lol
[05:31] <nightfrog> sacarlson: google.com?
[05:31] <sacarlson> spiky25: yes I like nvidia that's what I have also
[05:31] <iflema> yadudoc: itll be a line in /etc/apt/sources.list that is required
[05:31] <sebsebseb> spiky25: $1 ?
[05:32] <bodi> good evening all
[05:32] <sacarlson> nightfrog:  tried that, that's why I'm here
[05:32] <datakid_> I still can't seem to upgrade to Karmic. Neither disk works during boot, and after boot I get "An upgrade from 'intrepid' to 'karmic' is not supported with this tool."
[05:32] <sebsebseb> datakid_: you have to upgrade through 9.04 first
[05:33] <reactor> guys how to add delay to startup application?
[05:33] <wgrant> datakid_: You cannot upgrade directly to Karmic. You must first upgrade to Jaunty.
[05:33] <spiky25> lol put 1000$ on a nvidia card worth 100$ I will buy it even if you give me a 3000$ worth ati card ...
[05:33] <iflema> yadudoc: or system/administration/software sources
[05:33] <datakid_> sebsebseb, wgrant I'd rather just reinstall. But they karmic disks are not being discovered ?
[05:33] <sacarlson> datakid:  I'm sold on ubuntu 8.04,  I only play above that version in vertualbox
[05:34] <bodi> ? when you have time thanx
[05:34] <yadudoc> iflema, okay... will something like deb file:////media/Data/ubuntu karmic main universe restricted multiverse    work ?
[05:34] <datakid_> bodi, did you have a question?
[05:35] <bodi> yes
[05:35] <sebsebseb> datakid_: md5sum/sha1sum your ISO
[05:35] <sebsebseb> datakid_: to make sure the ISO is good
[05:35] <iflema> yadudoc: yeah... im lookin it up now... good question....
[05:35] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | datakid_
[05:35] <datakid_> sebsebseb, both md5sums have been perfect
[05:35] <iflema> yadudoc: ya can have http ftp cdrom etc
[05:35] <sebsebseb> datakid_: burn the CD a bit slower, and make sure your burning the contents of the ISO to CD, not the ISO itself
[05:36] <datakid_> sebsebseb, I burnt it as slow as possible, and it's not a disc with an .iso file on it :)
[05:36] <sebsebseb> datakid_: what is it then USB?
[05:36] <sebsebseb> datakid_: oh nevermind
[05:36] <sebsebseb> datakid_: make sure the computer is able to boot from CD drive, also you could install from USB etc
[05:36] <bodi> i just installed ububtu 9 and noticed there are not many dvd riping programs avaliable for distros so tried all of the ones on the drop down and not one works any suddestions
[05:36] <datakid_> no, it's a disc created _from_ the iso, but is not a disc with ubuntu-desktop.iso as the only file :)
[05:37] <yadudoc> iflema, honestly isn't that kindof lame.... they are not supporting anything besides cdroms for local file system
[05:37] <sacarlson> datakid_: you can install the ISO file direct into vertualbox and try it out to see if it works before you burn a disk
[05:37] <datakid_> bodi, k3b?
[05:37] <sebsebseb> datakid_: ok that's probably the problem then
[05:37] <iflema> yadudoc: nah.. ya can do what you ask.... just i forget
[05:37] <sebsebseb> datakid_: I meant the contents of the ISO, if  you have any other files on there as well
[05:37] <yadudoc> iflema, i think I need to download packages.bz also from the mirror .. but i wonder what if the packages on the mirror changed in between
[05:37] <Baconheart> where are the netbook remix IMG files?  I can only find ISO
[05:37] <datakid_> sebsebseb, what is? oh, yeah, the cdrom is filled with files - it looks like an install disk
[05:38] <sebsebseb> datakid_: right, and only Ubuntu's files yes?
[05:38] <iflema> yadudoc: why... may i ask you wan twhole mirror
[05:38] <datakid_> sebsebseb, yep
[05:38] <researcher1> how to uninstall a program?
[05:38] <spiky25> sacarlson when you're stucking yourself on a ubuntu LTS version like that it's time to learn better, try Archlinux by Chakra live cd, you will have the most up-to-date distro, lightweight and fast, you will learn a lot more about linux and even if you return to another distro that knowledge will follow you for a lifetime ...
[05:38] <sebsebseb> datakid_: should boot up then, as long as your computer is able to boot from CD's still
[05:38] <bodi> yes i tried it and ot locks up on start
[05:38] <datakid_> when I go into the bios it tells me that the cdrom boot option is first, but that it is (not present)
[05:38] <sebsebseb> researcher1: sudo apt-get remove programname or if you want to do config files as well  sudo apt-get purge programname
[05:38] <qwebirc95333> howto install driver modem usb ZTE mf628 on ubuntu 9.10
[05:38] <Baconheart> anyone know where are the netbook remix IMG files are?  I can only find ISO downloads.
[05:39] <airtonix> researcher1, how did you install it?
[05:39] <sacarlson> spiky25: ok I'll try that on vertualbox too
[05:39] <spiky25> bodi no linux software rip protected dvds that's maybe your problem ... (as I know for now ...)
[05:39] <jacquesdupontd_> hi
[05:39] <sacarlson> I like to try them all but I don't want to bring down my network when I play
[05:39] <jacquesdupontd_> i'm searching somethings to paste .xtm
[05:39] <bodi> is k3b as capable as dvd fab also?
[05:40] <yadudoc> iflema, I "have" the whole mirror something past some 100Gb
[05:40] <researcher1> installed through synaptic
[05:40] <jacquesdupontd_> like xtremsplit but i'm not finding at all, and the version given on the site is not working
[05:40] <iflema> yadudoc: one can generate a packeges file if so needed... but is it really
[05:40] <airtonix> researcher1, then thats where you'll uninstall it from
[05:40] <jacquesdupontd_> please help me it makes 20 minutes i'm doing it
[05:40] <sebsebseb> researcher1: ok well you can remove in synaptic,  or remove using the terminal with the command/s  I gave
[05:40] <researcher1> ok.
[05:40] <bragoo> dose anyone know if there is a channel for Debris-Linux?
[05:40] <iflema> yadudoc: yeah... why?
[05:40] <bodi> ok thanks
[05:40] <spiky25> sacarlson archlinux isn't good for virtualbox virtual machine as I remember ...
[05:40] <airtonix> researcher1, either using synaptic or like was previously mentioned : using apt-get remove <package-name>
[05:40] <researcher1> ok
[05:40] <yadudoc> iflema, i copied the mirror when I went to IITM that institution has a mirror, just the matter of an ftp download
[05:41] <spiky25> too lightweight and slipstreamed maybe ...
[05:41] <airtonix> researcher1, remember that using apt-get remove will require sudo infron of it
[05:41] <iflema> yadudoc: yeah but it goes stale
[05:41] <yadudoc> iflema, I'm getting a local mirror in my college...
[05:41] <iflema> just use web.......
[05:41] <sebsebseb> researcher1: and synaptic can't be open when using those commands, or you will get an error message
[05:41] <researcher1> can removing a package affect the other, i mean shared files as in Windows XP?
[05:41] <Baconheart> this is making me suicidal.  why hide the IMG files?
[05:41] <scunizi>  /quit
[05:41] <iflema> yadudoc: oh fun..... you have some homework to do
[05:41] <sebsebseb> researcher1: shoudn't do
[05:42] <researcher1> thats nice to hear
[05:42] <sebsebseb> researcher1: well if you remove samba for example, you woudn't be able to access   files on XP like that etc
[05:42] <yadudoc> iflema, no... most packages don't change often right... u can take a diff and update the ones that need to be changed.. there must be some way to do that
[05:42] <spiky25> how to remove a package/software/game the command line (CLI) way in the terminal > sudo apt-get remove packagename
[05:42] <losha> bragoo: google says no. but there is a user forum...
[05:42] <researcher1> but other prgrams will work?
[05:43] <iflema> yadudoc: gotta step for min....
[05:43] <bragoo> losha: tnx
[05:43] <sebsebseb> researcher1: normalely if you remove a program from Ubuntu, it won't effect other programs
[05:43] <sebsebseb> researcher1: well unless they are in the same group or whatever as in dependancies one needing the other etc
[05:43] <researcher1> that really very good
[05:43] <rob_> hello, I'm looking for a cusomizable chat program for ubuntu that doesn't use the MSN network, yahoo, or google chat, are there any good recomendations for person to person chat programs/networks like this?
[05:43] <sebsebseb> researcher1: oh and sometimes if removing programs it might want to remove ubuntu-desktop as well, but  that's ok to do,  it's just when your doing an upgrade to a later version of Ubuntu you might want that installed,  so you get all of the next one
[05:44] <sebsebseb> researcher1: if I am correct about that second bit anyway
[05:44] <rob_> *that are also usable by someone using windows XP
[05:44] <spiky25> sebsebseb: is there a way to install a wireless drivers and firmware without internet ???
[05:44] <sebsebseb> spiky25: yes
[05:44] <bragoo> rob_: have u tried Pidgin?
[05:44] <sebsebseb> spiky25: or no
[05:45] <sebsebseb> spiky25: ,but ndiswrapper can be done on the Live CD, if I remember correctly
[05:45] <researcher1> how do i determine dependencies? autochecking possible?
[05:45] <datakid_> sebsebseb, the disk installs fine on the virtual box. Does that mean I have a problem with my bios (ie, not finding cdrom drive during boot)
[05:45] <spiky25> how ? do broadcom-wl or broadcom STA still included and working after install on 9.10 as 9.04 was ?
[05:45] <sebsebseb> rob_: Empathy is the default mutli protocall network program, there's also Pidgin and Kopete
[05:46] <sebsebseb> rob_: Empathy the default  for Karmic/9.10
[05:46] <sebsebseb> datakid_: you probably need to go into the bios and change the boot order then
[05:46] <rob_> I think more I'm looking for a network that isn't msn yahoo or google
[05:46] <sebsebseb> datakid_: so it boots from CD first then if it can't find one the hard disk
[05:46] <chilli0> Hello , For some reason my other ubuntu computer isnt showing up in my network
[05:46] <chilli0> Noting is only my self
[05:46] <datakid_> that's what I was saying - the boot order is correct, but for some reason, next to 1. CDROM it says (not present)
[05:46] <sacarlson> spiky25: bummer about not working in virtualbox but I see it has a USB flash disk version.  I might like to try that.
[05:47] <spiky25> I checked but some bugs seem to talk about it so I wanna be sure to be ok ...
[05:47] <rob_> I liked Galaxiam, but I seem to miss a lot of msgs that come through the msn netword
[05:47] <rob_> network*
[05:47] <sebsebseb> rob_: I am not sure what that is, but if it's a WIndows program which I assume it is, you may be able to Wine it
[05:47] <ranjan_> hello every body .. i am wondering with one thing is there any rss reader in ubuntu 9.10 that can use lib- notifiction demon for displaying any notification ... any wor's could be of great help for me ....;)
[05:48] <researcher1> I have a computer lab with 30 pcs. I want to do networking 1 as server ( teacher terminal). Shall I go for Samba or what?
[05:48] <spiky25> sacarlson I said to you that Archlinux and Chakra (Archlinux live cd installer project) don't work in virtualbox ...
[05:48] <sebsebseb> researcher1: Samba is for file sharing, and there's NFS and SCP and what not as well.  and then other programs for other types of networking
[05:48] <sacarlson> spiky25: yes I saw that. but It says it works on USB disk
[05:49] <bodi> thats a live boot i thik
[05:49] <researcher1> I just want italc to work initially and moodle
[05:49] <sacarlson> spiky25: is the usb disk version working on your Archlinux?
[05:49] <bllz> Does anybody have experience with mythbuntu and IR blaster configuration (everybody is afk in #ubuntu-mythtv)?
[05:49] <sebsebseb> researcher1: you want to do what exactly?
[05:50] <researcher1> Im teaching to 30 studnet sin my computer lab
[05:50] <spiky25> try your luck then, archlinux is worth a lot of troubles as it work really well after and it's a rolling release so no version change just update it ...
[05:50] <researcher1> they occupy individual pc and do program in c or autocad
[05:50] <rob_> thanks for all the msgs, I think I'll see what else pidgen can do for me :)
[05:50] <sacarlson> researcher1: samba is cool for shareing files.
[05:50] <researcher1> these pcs r in XP
[05:50] <researcher1> Im on one terminal
[05:51] <sebsebseb> !ssh > researcher1
[05:51] <sebsebseb> !vnc  > researcher1
[05:51] <researcher1> wanna see their desktops and talk to them thrugh headphone
[05:51] <sebsebseb> researcher1: ah ha
[05:51] <sebsebseb> yeah
[05:51] <sebsebseb>  ok
[05:51] <sebsebseb> VNC then
[05:51] <sebsebseb> or FreeNX
[05:51] <FloodBot1> sebsebseb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:51] <researcher1> Im in a small lab which ic simpe LAN
[05:51] <sebsebseb> !vnc > researcher1
[05:51] <researcher1> LAN is already done
[05:52] <researcher1> ubottu I have seen ur message n will work accordingly
[05:52] <sebsebseb> researcher1: ok if it's over a LAN, you don't need to do it over SSH,  it's when using over the Internet VNC should be done over VNC to make secure
[05:52] <sacarlson> researcher1: ya VNC is what you want so you can see what the student('s) is doing
[05:52] <acer_> yo yo
[05:52] <sebsebseb> researcher1: done over VNC,  uhmm done over SSH when using over Internet
[05:52] <researcher1> but then what type of networking server do i install to enable VNC to work?
[05:52] <dpic> My webcam seems to work fine other than using it with flash. After allowing a website to access my webcam through flash, it works for a second, but there's no sound. Then the image freezes, and the webcam doesn't work until i reboot my machine. Any ideas on what's causing this?
[05:53] <sebsebseb> researcher1: a VNC client on Windows
[05:53] <researcher1> ok
[05:53] <sebsebseb> or uhmm the server uh
[05:53] <bllz> dpic:  linux generally does not play nice with flash
[05:53] <researcher1> shall I b able to see more desktops at a time?
[05:53] <spiky25> but vinaigre vnc software isn't preinstalled on ubuntu ?
[05:53] <sebsebseb> researcher1: yes
[05:53] <dpic> bllz: yet i can't find this specific internet on google or the forums
[05:53] <researcher1> thats great
[05:54] <researcher1> I think my issue is almost solved
[05:54] <bllz> dpic:  you can't find what?
[05:54] <researcher1> Im not in lab now but on working day I will do it soon
[05:54] <sebsebseb> spiky25: yes it is
[05:54] <bllz> researcher1:  for what it's worth, ive always been happy with tightvnc
[05:54] <spiky25> dpic update to the latest flash beta or alpha and cross your fingers ...
[05:54] <sacarlson> researcher1:  I know I've used one of the ubuntu (not default install) packages to vnc to windows XP before.
[05:54] <dpic> spiky25: already done
[05:54] <researcher1> whats tightvnc?
[05:54] <bllz> researcher1:  its a vnc client for windows
[05:54] <sebsebseb> researcher1: a VNC client/server or uhmm both for Windows one of them
[05:55] <bllz> they also have a server, I believe
[05:55] <cfedde> see also ultravnc
[05:55] <sebsebseb> vnc 4 viewer for WIndows or whatever it is, that's good
[05:55] <researcher1> sacarlson please clarify further
[05:55] <sebsebseb> the free edition
[05:55] <nodakotor> PUlseaudio gives some problem in gaming, is there any way to tell an application to use alsa-oss instead?
[05:55] <sacarlson> researcher1: tightvnc is one that I have used I think on XP
[05:55] <researcher1> studnets should not be able to control my desktop but vice vers should be possible
[05:55] <sebsebseb> researcher1: yes of course
[05:56] <sebsebseb> researcher1: you connect to their computers etc
[05:56] <bllz> researcher1:  yeah just make sure the vnc server is on the student's computer and not yours lol
[05:56] <spiky25> researsher tightvnc is the best app for that his choice can't be better for both ...
[05:56] <researcher1> by VNC?
[05:56] <spiky25> vnc = virtual network connection
[05:56] <researcher1> howw do i find tightvnc? install?
[05:56] <bllz> google
[05:57] <bllz> researcher1:  google tightvnc
[05:57] <silverfin> how do i use IRC commands with empathy?
[05:57] <researcher1> command line? for tightvnc?
[05:57] <spiky25> www.google.com/linux search it there
[05:57] <sebsebseb> researcher1: there are a few vnc clients for Windows, looks like you should do a bit of research
[05:57] <silverfin> Entering them on the input box doesn't seem to work
[05:57] <bllz> researcher1:  i must have hopped in on this issue a bit late.  Your studens are all on ubuntu?
[05:57] <researcher1> ok spiyk25
[05:57] <silverfin> anybody?
[05:57] <iflema> yadudoc: nice project ya got going, there are official ways... good luck
[05:57] <airtonix> researcher1, http://marc-abramowitz.com/archives/2006/02/17/tightvnc-on-ubuntu/
[05:57] <researcher1> my studnets on XP
[05:57] <itamarjp1> someone can explain for me how to install the new version of transmission in ubuntu ? I need to edit sources.list ?
[05:57] <silverfin> anybody here using empathy?
[05:58] <sebsebseb> ardchoille: uh the date in the url?
[05:58] <airtonix> researcher1, you also have freenx as an alternative option
[05:58] <airtonix> !search freenx
[05:58] <sebsebseb> ardchoille: wrong one
[05:58] <researcher1> i dont know freenx
[05:58] <bllz> researcher1:  then you would google tightvnc and install the server executable to each computer
[05:58] <airtonix> !info freenx
[05:58] <sebsebseb> airtonix: see above that was for you
[05:58] <researcher1> compared to tightvnc hows it?
[05:58] <spiky25> itamarjp can I suggest you to try deluge software first ?
[05:58] <bllz> researcher1:  and you'll be using ubuntu, then?
[05:58] <sacarlson> researcher1:  I think I used xtightvncviewer on my Ubuntu side so to install #apt-get install xtightvncviewer
[05:58] <itamarjp1> spiky25: how ?
[05:59] <researcher1> how
[05:59] <spiky25> apt://deluge in firefox
[05:59] <bllz> researcher1:  if you're using ubuntu, i'd recommend the default vnc client
[05:59] <itamarjp1> spiky25:  I am running ubuntu in sheevaplug , there are no firefox
[05:59] <researcher1> whats deluge?
[05:59] <bllz> !deluge|reseacher1
[06:00] <n8tuser> !hamachi | researcher1
[06:00] <bllz> and it's a damn good one too!
[06:00] <researcher1> i too feel vnc would be gud though I know neither vnc nor freenx
[06:00] <spiky25> ok rtorrent will be more suited for cli commands for it
[06:00] <sacarlson> researcher1: bllz:  I think bllz is correct as far a viewer I think the built in one will work too.
[06:00] <silverfin> Anybody here on empathy?
[06:00] <airtonix> researcher1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[06:00] <researcher1> bllz is for what?
[06:01] <sebsebseb> researcher1: well find out about the vnc clients and servers for WIndows that's a start
[06:01] <spiky25> deluge is the more near to an open source utorrent if you prefer but I don't do in command line ...
[06:01] <bllz> researcher1:  don't make this complicated because it's really not =)  Install the tightvnc server on the student's computers and then use the default vnc client in ubuntu to control them
[06:01] <bllz> researcher1:  and bllz is a corruption of "balls"
[06:01] <researcher1> ok bllz
[06:01] <itamarjp1> spiky25: any other suggestion ?
[06:02] <spiky25> silverfin try pidgin if empathy is too hard for you ...
[06:02] <researcher1> i will try it in labs tomorrow n report here. Can i pm the sucess to you personally
[06:02] <bllz> researcher1:  I understand the temptation to want to carefully compare all your options, but really, vnc clients are all the same
[06:02] <itamarjp1> spiky25: I am using sheevaplug (openplug.org)
[06:02] <bllz> same with servers
[06:02] <bllz> and the default ubuntu one is great
[06:02] <researcher1> right bllz
[06:02] <silverfin> spiky25: It's not that anything is hard, I just can't seem to find where to enter IRC commands.
[06:02] <researcher1> agree with hat off to care n concern
[06:02] <bllz> haha =)
[06:02] <spiky25> itamarjp1 for the sheeva plug as it use cli commands only try rtorrent or transmission ...
[06:03] <silverfin> spiky25: IRC commands on the input box doesn't seem to work.
[06:03] <spiky25> rtorrent is more used in cli mostly
[06:03] <itamarjp1> spiky25: I want to use transmission because of the webpage
[06:03] <bllz> itamarjp1:  they have a webUI for rtorrent too
[06:03] <airtonix> itamarjp1, rtorrent has web interfaces too
[06:03] <n8tuser> bllz-> i dont believe the default one allows for resumable vnc session
[06:03] <silverfin> spiky25: may I know how I can send IRC commands?
[06:03] <spiky25> rtorrent also have a web UI
[06:03] <itamarjp1> airtonix: ok, I just want transmission 1.7
[06:04] <airtonix> itamarjp1, in fact transmission, deluge both have their own web interfaces
[06:04] <spiky25> silverfin I don't use empathy sorry
[06:04] <sacarlson> ok no one can help me with my dhcpv6 configuration problem?   I think I'm back to google.
[06:04] <bllz> airtonix, spiky25:  do you know if rtorrent supports socks proxies for trackers yet?
[06:04] <silverfin> Anybody here using empathy?
[06:04] <pshr_> hello, After i click on upgrade in update manager it starts to download files and all of a sudden i get this error Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server.
[06:04] <bllz> silverfin:  nope, i'm so used to pidgin i just installed that
[06:04] <itamarjp1> airtonix:  ii  transmission-daemon                    1.51-0ubuntu3
[06:04] <silverfin> Afterall it's the default IRC client.
[06:04] <itamarjp1> airtonix:  I just want the version 1.7
[06:04] <bllz> pshr_:  did you add any 3rd party repositories?
[06:05] <spiky25> airtonix deluge won't do as a sheeva plug a lightweight 100$us server without a GUI interface ...
[06:05] <spiky25> is
[06:05] <pshr_> yeah bllz i do have third party repos
[06:05] <pshr_> like that of googles and few more i guess
[06:05] <airtonix> spiky25, sheeva-what-now?
[06:05] <bllz> pshr_: then most likely you didn't import a gpg key for those servers so ubuntu is warning you that you have no way of ensuring that the packages are, indeed, coming from said servers
[06:06] <itamarjp1> airtonix: http://openplug.org/
[06:06] <bllz> pshr_:  the solution is to go over your 3rd party repos and add the relevant GPG keys.  There are usually instructions on the repository's homepage
[06:06] <spiky25> sheeva plug > google it
[06:06] <airtonix> itamarjp1, what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[06:06] <pshr_> is there a way to over come that... like can i make it through upgrade with out those errors
[06:06] <bllz> pshr_: the most common culprits are winehq and medibuntu
[06:06] <airtonix> spiky25, why do i want to google it?
[06:07] <pshr_> thanks bllz
[06:07] <pshr_> :)
[06:07] <itamarjp1> airtonix:  cat /etc/debian_version -> 5.0
[06:07] <spiky25> it's for your knowledge mostly
[06:07] <airtonix> itamarjp1, lsb_release -d
[06:07] <bllz> np, pshr_
[06:08] <itamarjp1> airtonix:  Description:	Ubuntu 9.04
[06:08] <spiky25> any bug report for broadcom b4311 rev 01 on ubuntu 9.10 ???
[06:09] <flexible> hey, i just installed cairo dock
[06:09] <spiky25> itamarjp1 rtorrent should be better for you as more used worldwide ...
[06:09] <flexible> how do i launch it
[06:10] <bllz> flexible:  try alt+F2 and type "cairo"
[06:10] <bllz> i think that's it
[06:10] <flexible> cairo-dock
[06:10] <flexible> thanks
[06:10] <o2o> hello
[06:11] <o2o> anyone here
[06:11] <helllllllo> who can say story
[06:12] <qwebirc95333> howto install driver modem usb ZTE mf628 on ubuntu 9.10
[06:12] <spiky25> story !!!
[06:12] <helllllllo> story...
[06:12] <airtonix> itamarjp1, http://www.getdeb.net/software/Transmission
[06:12] <spiky25> usb modem ? outch
[06:12] <helllllllo> story,story,say story
[06:13] <airtonix> itamarjp1, but its for 9.10. also not sure why you want transmission on a headless machine
[06:13] <spiky25> hello ? enough ok ?
[06:13] <hoxha> how do i start the hole paltalk installing  for ubuntu, because am trying to get paltalk on ubuntu?? anyone knows how to look for the best way to get it
[06:13] <bllz> hellllllllo:  go to #troll please
[06:14] <flexible> does ubuntu have much support for laptop's wireless cards? is there a site that has this information?
[06:15] <bllz> flexible:  you should look up your specific adapter on the community documentation page
[06:15] <spiky25> helllllllo: go to #ilovebeingadickhead it's better !!! omg ...
[06:15] <SuperMiguel> flexible, what card you have?
[06:15] <bllz> !wifi|flexible
[06:15] <bllz> flexible:  once you've taken a look at the information there, we'll be able to help you mroe because you'll likely have some more specific questions =)
[06:15] <flexible> i don't - i'm planning on buying a laptop and want to make sure i buy one that has full support for the card, as it will be used at uni next year
[06:15] <spiky25> flexible > google.com/linux linlap
[06:16] <flexible> alright
[06:16] <flexible> thanks
[06:16] <bllz> spiky25:  I think #unfunny might actually be where he belongs lol
[06:16] <spiky25> if you know the terminal do lspci and tell the network card line here only
[06:17] <_madruga> spiky25, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[06:17] <o2o> hello, in ubuntu, i wrote a C++ program that use STL vector, but it compiles error
[06:17] <bllz> flexible:  ever look at system76 computers?
[06:17] <spiky25> bllz: true true !!! (budweiser publicity)
[06:17] <lucas___> i cant start gdm on boot... this is what i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/340348/
[06:18] <flexible> no i haven't
[06:18] <hoxha> dose anyone how do to start installing paltalk on to ubuntu, because i am trying to get paltalk on to it
[06:18] <lucas___> i think ive modify something wrong on gdm... http://paste.ubuntu.com/340348/
[06:18] <bllz> flexible:  Full disclosure -- I own one but i'm not affeliated witht he company
[06:18] <bllz> flexible:  they make compuers (including laptops) that are designed around ubuntu
[06:18] <bllz> and they write drivers if open source drivers aren't available or adequate
[06:18] <spiky25> flexible > dell mini 10v > www.ubuntumini.com the best choice for you ...
[06:18] <flexible> ah really
[06:19] <bllz> flexible:  www.system76.com  maybe you'll find something you like
[06:19] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[06:19] <flexible> ugh..
[06:19] <flexible> wonderufl
[06:19] <SuperMiguel> ?
[06:19] <goose> !ops | tex is DCC spamming
[06:20] <spiky25> it run windows xp, 7, linux, osx86 and even google chrome OS nice for a netbook ...
[06:20] <ShadeS> hey, I don't know if there is a #ubuntustudio but it shouldn't matter at this stage of the install. I have a hard disk that I split in half (win32/ubuntustudio). I plan to encrypt this disk. I'm not sure if I should go ahead and do that with true crypt in windows or if I have other options to explore..?
[06:20] <syn-ack> !ops Tex | spamming
[06:20] <flexible> anyway bllz: thanks for the suggestions, i'll look into whether they sell them in australia anywhere...
[06:21] <spiky25> flexible check for the dell model that I said
[06:21] <nameless|> Can we get a ban on Tex for spamming dcc sends?
[06:21] <itamarjp1> airtonix: thanks
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[06:21] <celthunder> tex kid stop bein an idiot
[06:21] <River_Rat> Is there an ops channel for this channel?
[06:22] <celthunder> nameless|, yeah he just did it to me too
[06:22] <tt> hehe
[06:22] <syn-ack> River_Rat, #ubuntu-ops
[06:22] <ne171pro> send me a cool theme If u got one
[06:22] <lucas___> pleeease cant access ubuntu!! http://paste.ubuntu.com/340348/
[06:22] <spiky25> just ignore him > /ignore username
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[06:23] <lucas___> pleeease cant access ubuntu!! http://paste.ubuntu.com/340348/
[06:23] <bllz> hello?
[06:23] <bllz> yay!
[06:23] <spiky25> ne171pro > www.ubuntumini.com check there ...
[06:23] <locatesri> Hi, I am new to Ubuntu, Installed Ubuntu 8.04 some time back, when Iam trying to view movies from websites the system hangs up, I  have to restart my machine using the restart button,Can anyone help me with this
[06:24] <bllz> locatesri:  are they flash videos?
[06:24] <locatesri> no it is not flash
[06:24] <locatesri> normal movies
[06:25] <bllz> locatesri:  hmm. you'll have to give us a better description of the problem.  run your web browser from a terminal and recreate the crash conditions, then post the errors you get in the terminal to pastebin
[06:25] <spiky25> locatesri youtube ???
[06:25] <bllz> spiky25:  he said it wasn't flash
[06:25] <bllz> but then again, some people aren't clear on what flash is =)
[06:25] <spiky25> websites like youtube are flash videos ...
[06:25] <bllz> wow, the floodbot army has arrived
[06:26] <bllz> locatesri:  yeah what website was it?
[06:26] <locatesri> let me get the link
[06:26] <spiky25> some use silverlight sometimes but you could use moonlight for that ...
[06:26] <ShadeS> anyone catch my question?
[06:26] <Voss> bllz, some people dont know the difference between windows and office. I had people telling me that had Windows 2007!
[06:26] <eclipse_> who is tex?
[06:26] <bllz> Voss:  lol you make a good point
[06:26] <Dasda> is it better to install ubuntu then windows xp or install windowsxp and then ubuntu? I am looking to dual boot on a new hdd
[06:26] <bllz> eclipse_:  tex is successful troll
[06:27] <bllz> Dasda:  windows then ubuntu
[06:27] <spiky25> if not sure, use the mplayer plugin with the good codec and it may work ...
[06:27] <eclipse_> I just got a dcc flood from him. ><
[06:27] <wgrant> Dasda: Windows then Ubuntu, as otherwise Windows will overwrite your MBR and leave you unable to boot Ubuntu.
[06:27] <bllz> Dasda:  grub will automatically detect the XP installation and autoconfigure the boot options
[06:27] <spiky25> xp then ubuntu
[06:27] <iflema>  ShadeS: do you plan on encrypting the linux half?
[06:27]  * silverfin "test"
[06:27] <spiky25> no grub setup to do that way ...
[06:27] <bllz> ShadeS:  I missed it, can you repeat?
[06:28] <bllz> eclipse_:  i think he's already been manhandled
[06:28] <flexible> what is the difference in the package manager between removal and complete removal?
[06:28] <the_file> um
[06:28] <wgrant> flexible: Complete removal (aka. purge) also removes configuration settings.
[06:28] <the_file> is running photoshop cs4 on ubuntu possible without vm?????????
[06:28] <bllz> flexible:  complete removal removes config files as well
[06:28] <bllz> the_file:  did you look into wine?
[06:28] <wgrant> flexible: Although note that it's only *system* configuration settings. Your personal settings will remain.
[06:28] <Dasda> aaah ok guys, Is there a page on the site that explains how to do it? I can ofcourse google it if it seems im lazy but I thought i'd ask if someone has a good guide on how to do it. I've never dual booted before. I have a really crappy computer and love the fact ubuntu is safe on internet
[06:28] <Hajuu> Hi, i'm trying to setup samba, but when I try to connect from my windows 7 computer, it seems like even though as my username I enter 'hajuu' it tries to use 'MICHAEL1\hajuu' as my username. Which is wrong obviously.
[06:28] <svs`> help..a recent upgrade has borked my laptop keyboard and touchpad. anyone else have the same issue? any possible fixes? I get an error "Could not find core pointer device" in Xorg.0.log
[06:28] <Hajuu> Any ideas?
[06:28] <spiky25> removal = software only, complete = software + configuration
[06:29] <locatesri> http://www.tubekolly.com/
[06:29] <locatesri> This is the site
[06:29] <wgrant> Dasda: Just install Windows then Ubuntu. The Ubuntu installer will walk you through it.
[06:29] <bllz> Dasda:  don't bother.  Install XP, and then when you install ubuntu, pick the option to resizze your drive and install ubuntu next to xp.  the rest will be done automagically.  it's that simple
[06:29] <Voss> svs, go back to the earlier kernel in the grub menu
[06:29] <svs`> i am on karmic
[06:29] <skellington> hey guys, im sure some of you know of jolicloud, a variant of ubuntu directed at netbooks. well i tried it out and it feels too barebones for my taste, however it has working drivers for my wifi card. is there anyway i can get these drivers into ubuntu?
[06:29] <locatesri> From this site I was trying to play some live tv channels, when my system hangs
[06:29] <spiky25> cs4 work on ubuntu but is a pain to setup with wine ...
[06:29] <svs`> Voss...thanks
[06:29] <svs`> will try that
[06:29] <Dasda> wgrant and bllz, thanks guys
[06:29] <the_file> !wine
[06:29] <bllz> Dasda:  no problem!
[06:29] <bllz> the_file:  there it is =)
[06:30] <ploceidae> skellington, which wifi card?
[06:30] <spiky25> svs' > check xorg.conf settings
[06:30] <skellington> atheros something. i dont remember exactly.
[06:30] <bllz> the_file:  i recommend you check google for tutorials
[06:30] <Voss> skellington, did you try ubuntu netbook remix and it not have the drivers?
[06:30] <Voss> skellington btw, which netbook do you have
[06:30] <ploceidae> ploceidae, which netbook do you have?
[06:30] <spiky25> skellington > ndiswrapper + windows drivers
[06:31] <hackel> Anyone else have a problem with Ubuntu's icedtea6-plugin not showing up in Firefox 3.6?
[06:31] <skellington> voss yes, ive tried many distros, unr being one of them, and the only ones that have worked so far were jolicloud and moblin
[06:31] <Brandon> hello ubuntu dwellers!!! I have an interesting topic for you. during the installation of Virtualbox, I get a funny little error, but it completes the installation like it's nobody's business.  the error code is "no suitable module for running kernel found." this package is being installed to a custom live cd via THIS guide. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[06:31] <skellington> voss asus eeepc 1000ha
[06:31] <Brandon> Any ideas would be helpful
[06:31] <ShadeS> hey, I don't know if there is a #ubuntustudio but it shouldn't matter at this stage of the install. I have a hard disk that I split in half (win32/ubuntustudio). I plan to encrypt this disk. I'm not sure if I should go ahead and do that with true crypt in windows or if I have other options to explore..?
[06:31] <skellington> spiky i tried that it didnt work.
[06:31] <spiky25> locatesri > flash and moonlight could be used check the documentation ...
[06:31] <Voss> skellington, http://www.eeebuntu.org/
[06:32] <opticon> webmin has to be one of the coolest things ever
[06:32] <opticon> this the place to talk about it?
[06:32] <datakid> skellington, I'm using ubuntu nbr on eeepc 1000H - wifi works fine
[06:32] <bllz> opticon:  + 1 internets to you
[06:32] <datakid> skellington, which version of ubuntu aree you using?
[06:33] <spiky25> webmin user here !!! thumb up dude !!!
[06:33] <skellington> datakid i was using netbook remix. wifi was the only thing that didnt work
[06:33] <ploceidae> skellington, kernels later than 2.6.30 should contain ath9k, which is the driver you need
[06:33] <datakid> skellington, what ploceidae said is true
[06:33] <augten> hi all, is there any shortcuts for rhythmbox as pressing z/x/c/v to choose play/pause/forward/backward ?
[06:34] <dark_and_twisty_> I don't know if i'm in the right place but I recently got a new laptop and I don't want to necessarily get rid of my old one but i won't be able to upgrade it to windows 7 so I was thinking of using ubuntu on it. any suggestions etc?
[06:34] <spiky25> skellington for your netbook what you need of a linux distro ?
[06:35] <the_file> if you are reading this:   do you know any1 that has run or is running adobe cs4 on ubuntu without vm??
[06:35] <Voss> dark what do you want to do with your old laptop
[06:35] <skellington> ill try unr again and if it doesnt work, ill report back.
[06:35] <nikhil_> dark_and_twisty_: use linux mint, www.linuxmint.com. based on ubuntu + has codecs etc
[06:35] <the_file> dam
[06:35] <skellington> spiky25 what do i need? i need a fairly fast booting system.
[06:35] <Dyinglight12> i have a question about booting something from a usb
[06:35] <Brandon> hello ubuntu dwellers!!! I have an interesting topic for you. during the installation of Virtualbox, I get a funny little error, but it completes the installation like it's nobody's business. the error code is "no suitable module for running kernel found." this package is being installed to a custom live cd via THIS guide. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[06:35] <skellington> spiky25 but i dont want to feel limited to a silly webapp repository.
[06:36] <Dyinglight12> can i have someone pm me
[06:36] <dark_and_twisty_> well i'm not sure what I want to do with it, it's really not that good, but i was considering just using it for my hubs, ie always having it connected to the hubs and using my new laptop for most things, though I'm open to suggestions
[06:36] <spiky25> the_file I have done it before ...
[06:36] <ploceidae> Dyinglight12, ask here in a concise and straightforward manner
[06:37] <Voss> dark and twisty what are the specs of your old laptop?
[06:37] <skellington> also, darn eeebuntu is ugly
[06:37] <spiky25> skellington check Slitaz 2.0 and Archlinux maybe xpud
[06:38] <Lasthope106> I'm looking for a graphic calculator program.  Is there such thing for Ubuntu?
[06:38] <the_file> Im sure there is
[06:39] <spiky25> skellington Archlinux by Chakra live cd all the way for you, hard but good for a lifetime
[06:39] <ploceidae> skellington, have you tried Ubuntu proper? it may not boot as fast as the netbook versions but you'll have working WiFi and you can remove startup programs that you don't need.
[06:39] <Newbie-Widget> does anyone know if Internode hosts Lubuntu ? I had a look but can't see the iso's.. just artwork
[06:39] <skellington> spiky25 with such a low memory footprint, i assume these distros would not have my drivers
[06:40] <iflema> dark_and_twisty_ install ubuntu on old laptop.. give it a fair run.. realise how limited you are under windows and then install onto new laptop..... for better peformance.... yeah.
[06:40] <skellington> plodeidae i have, it did not work. the problem isnt missing drivers but faulty drivers it appears. i should have specified that before
[06:40] <dark_and_twisty_> my new laptop is a macbook, primarily for the size and portability. i'm just checking the specs of my old laptop, its been so long since i've used it that i've forgotten lol
[06:41] <ubuntu> Hey guys. Something's come up, for some reason grub no longer detects a file system to boot from. Don't think I made any changes, and don't think there were any updates recently (recently being past day)
[06:41] <spiky25> Newbie-Widget: just install any ubuntu 9.10 variant then add lubuntu-desktop package from repositories of canontical/ubuntu ...
[06:41] <iflema> ittl do
[06:41] <skellington> when i try to connect to any access point, i cannot. they are detected, but i cant connect..
[06:41] <ploceidae> skellington, what version of Ubuntu? what Linux kernel version?
[06:41] <ubuntu> Fortunately my /home partition is still there
[06:41] <Newbie-Widget> spiky25: oh ic, ty :)
[06:41] <spiky25> skellington you will have to install it manualy but Arch is worth the trouble
[06:42] <skellington> ploceidae oh gosh, i dont remember. ill try out the new ones tomorrow and see if they work, if not ill just come back here.
[06:42] <spiky25> 9.10 and more only Newbie-Widget
[06:43] <skellington> spiky25 yes ive heard great things about it but im not a very motivated person
[06:43] <spiky25> it take a while before new stuff is added to ubuntu repositories ...
[06:43] <Newbie-Widget> spiky25: ahh k
[06:43] <hackel> Anyone know of a PPA building an icedtea6-plugin that is compatible with Firefox 3.6?
[06:43] <ploceidae> skellington, the only reason i ask is i'm using an EeePC with Ubuntu Karmic, 2.6.31 kernel and had no problems with WiFi
[06:44] <dark_and_twisty_> bah my old laptop is still turning on.
[06:44] <skellington> ploceidae what model?
[06:44] <dark_and_twisty_> so what do you guys like best about ubuntu?
[06:44] <ploceidae> 900A
[06:44] <spiky25> skellington just try it by the Chakra live cd on a desktop computer first but it take a while to be perfect with it ...
[06:44] <ploceidae> so it's actually using a different driver: ath5k
[06:44] <ploceidae> but still, i don't think there should be issues with ath9k
[06:44] <iflema> do ya wanna keep the old windows?
[06:44] <spiky25> icedtea ??? use adobe flash or gnash ...
[06:45] <ubuntu> If I'm running from a Live session, how can I get fsck to run on my hdd's main boot partition?
[06:45] <spiky25> dark_and_twisty_: nothing ...
[06:45] <iflema> dark_and_twisty_: do ya wanna keep the old windows?
[06:45] <dark_and_twisty_> spiky25: you don't like it?
[06:45] <dark_and_twisty_> um no not really
[06:45] <skellington> ploceidae i know there shouldnt be issues. but i know that ive had issues with it. ill just try out a few fixes later and see how it goes
[06:45] <spiky25> I would stay on Archlinux if the proprietary softwares where supported well ...
[06:46] <skellington> spiky25 maybe someday..
[06:46] <ploceidae> skellington, best of luck :)
[06:46] <adante> hi guys
[06:46] <skellington> ploceidae thanks.
[06:46] <adante> when i mount a samba share and it times out is there a way to not make it cock up my system?
[06:47] <SuperMiguel> when is trim support comming to ubuntu?
[06:48] <spiky25> skellington Archlinux is always up-to-date and you don't need to reinstall it again for a lifetime like gentoo, it accept packages and sources (emerge style) ...
[06:48] <holmser> why does truecrypt only offer 256 bit encryption?
[06:48] <holmser> seems a bit light
[06:48] <iflema> dark_and_twisty_: OK..... 1. software free (almost always) = no demos, cracks, keygens = less chance of virus/malware
[06:49] <spiky25> holmser try ubuntu alternate cd it offer encrypted partition creation at installation ...
[06:49] <wgrant> holmser: I think you're confusing the key lengths of the various algorithms.
[06:49] <ubuntu> Oh noes, gparted shows my old / as "unknown file system", does this mean what I think? Would there be any way of bringing it back?
[06:49] <dark_and_twisty_> iflema: okay cool thanks lol
[06:49] <wgrant> holmser: While 256-bit is not strong for RSA, for AES it is very strong.
[06:49] <wgrant> holmser: they are completely different types of keys.
[06:49] <holmser> ok
[06:49] <holmser> that makes sense
[06:50] <spiky25> Check the documentation to see how cause it make a long time for me, too much to help you a lot ...
[06:50] <microlith> wgrant: wasn't AES over 128-bits found to have a weakness making it equivalent to 119 bits?
[06:50] <dark_and_twisty_> okay laptop finally on... my laptop is vista home premium, intel core 2 duo, 1.83 ghz, 2gb ram and its 32bit os
[06:51] <wgrant> microlith: Yes.
[06:51] <ubuntu> Mmm, ok, so I found my old / through gparted, but I can't see it in /dev, what am I looking for?
[06:51] <absentia> hello.  I upgraded to ubuntu 9.10 ... my sound was working fine before -- now it's all garbled.  any suggestions -- short of a complete reinstall of the entire os -- that I could do in order to try to fix the sound?  I'm not an ubuntu expert.  thanks!
[06:51] <spiky25> vista omg everything is better even then that ...
[06:51] <dark_and_twisty_> i know its so crap
[06:51] <dark_and_twisty_> i hate it
[06:52] <dark_and_twisty_> and i know this is unrelated but the fan only works if i have speed fan open.
[06:52] <dark_and_twisty_> which i forgot about and the computer hadn't been turning on because i forgot to open speed fan haha
[06:53] <spiky25> just try Slitaz 2.0 from the live cd you will forget vista after that ...
[06:53] <songer> hello, how can i install Network Manager whitout internet?
[06:53] <songer> on ubuntu studio?
[06:53] <absentia> anyone have any ideas about the sound issue?
[06:53] <spiky25> use wicd download it from the ubuntu packages website songer ...
[06:54] <hoxha> http://express.paltalk.com/
[06:54] <ubuntu> Yikes, scary amount of fsck problems here
[06:54] <hoxha> see if any one has paltalk
[06:54] <greezmunkey> songer, did you have it before?
[06:54] <hoxha> i wanna see if anyone can sin in good
[06:55] <nalsa__> i think i am having the same issue- I am unable to complete an install from the live CD it just keeps freezing on the installer-- any advice?
[06:55] <songer> no
[06:55] <dark_and_twisty_> i <3 my new laptop but i don't like shakespeer (the only real option for dc use) and would also like to have it always open so i can log mainchat, so i think thats one of the things i'd like to use my old laptop with ubuntu for , as well as just to play around, experiment and indulge my inner nerd.
[06:56] <bazhang> nalsa__, did you md5 the iso; burn at very low speed then do the disk integrity check?
[06:56] <bazhang> !md5 | nalsa__
[06:56] <iflema> (17:52:35) dark_and_twisty_: inner nerd you say.... can that thing boot from cd? http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download
[06:56] <dark_and_twisty_> yeah
[06:57] <bazhang> nalsa__, if all those successfully complete and you are still stuck you should consider using the text only alternate installer; it does well when the live cd cannot in certain cases
[06:58] <ubuntu> I think ext4 full died on me or something
[06:58] <nalsa__> thanks for the response-- yes the image is good-- I have booted it up fine and installed without issues on alternate machines
[06:59] <greezmunkey> songer, You can go here and download the package. Move it to Ubuntubox with a thumb drive or w/e: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager
[06:59] <absentia> hello ?
[06:59] <dark_and_twisty_> iflema: thanks so much. i'm going to start there. I didn't want to jump into it the wrong way :)
[06:59] <iflema> dark_and_twisty_: 32bit or 64bit you say.......
[07:00] <dark_and_twisty_> 32bit
[07:00] <nalsa__> and as far as doing text only install im sure that will work-- but all my issues in the first place have been with gui- (freezing/no being able to click on things)
[07:00] <spiky25> 64 bits if you have a 64 bits cpu
[07:00] <iflema> dark_and_twisty_: you can maybe google you laptop stats for compatibility or dive in...
[07:00] <Zeikfried> Has anyone compiled intel drivers for a 950 gma that can help me out?
[07:01] <absentia> fucking useless
[07:01] <nalsa__> im pretty sure it is a video card issue at this point-- kinda at a loss
[07:01] <iflema> dark_and_twisty_: dive in...... come here for q&a
[07:01] <dark_and_twisty_> okay cool thanks!
[07:01] <maco> wow, rage quit!
[07:01] <spiky25> and don't use ext4 for now stay on ext3 except for partition without important data or that you can lose ...
[07:01] <Church> nalsa: try downgrading maybe?
[07:02] <nalsa__> downgrading?
[07:02] <HardDisk> why?
[07:02] <HardDisk> ext4 seems to be fine
[07:02] <HardDisk> if it wasn't it wouldn't be the default for new karmic installations.
[07:03] <HardDisk> or included in new kernels for other linux distro's
[07:03] <Church> oh, you are speaking about initial install
[07:03] <TheRufus> help please
[07:03] <spiky25> ext4 still outperformed by ext3
[07:04] <nikhil_> Audio:     Card Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller driver HDA Intel
[07:04] <nikhil_>            Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Version 1.0.20
[07:04] <spiky25> and ext4 isn't a standard yet and ubuntu always putted new stuff before others with a little risk ...
[07:04] <TheRufus> run out of space, mysql db dead due to that fact, need to uninstall useless programs, how do I remove stuff. is it apt-get remove <application> ?
[07:04] <spiky25> yes rufus
[07:05] <spiky25> don't forget sudo before ...
[07:05] <spiky25> use sudo !! if you have forgot
[07:06] <spiky25> nikhil oh man not that sound card !!!
[07:06] <louis> lpw
[07:06] <steveness> hey, im on kubuntu, and i installed nautilus, now the whole machine looks like ubuntu, and is replaced with gnome, how do i get it back
[07:06] <shyam_k> know of any desktop blog editors that support page option of wordpress?
[07:07] <airtonix> steveness, with great difficulty
[07:07] <spiky25> steveness > package : kubuntu-desktop
[07:07] <spiky25> remove ubuntu-desktop after
[07:07] <bazhang> spiky25, that wont do it
[07:08] <iflema> steveness: have you install all of gnome and logged into it?
[07:08] <bazhang> steveness, you want pure gnome or pure kde
[07:08] <steveness> idk, it looks exactly like ubuntu
[07:08] <steveness> i want pure kde
[07:08] <bazhang> !purekde | steveness
[07:08] <iflema> steveness: maybe log out.. change window manaer and log in again
[07:08] <bazhang> spiky25, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage alone, removing will do nothing
[07:09] <steveness> how do i change window manager
[07:09] <airtonix> steveness, follow the link bazhang gave you first
[07:09] <bazhang> steveness, back to dolphin?
[07:09] <iflema> steveness: @ log in prompt...
[07:09] <steveness> nautilus is gone, but it is the same
[07:10] <[SilverFox]> anyone here have a  ati 4890?????????
[07:10] <bazhang> steveness, then check the link I gave you
[07:10] <steveness> hey, stay on here, imma log out for a sec
[07:11] <steveness> !purekde
[07:11] <the_file> I am trying to get internet explorer 6 running on my ubuntu
[07:12] <Andrew12> o_o
[07:12] <iflema> the_file: no................
[07:12] <spiky25> the_file try wine-doors or ies4linux
[07:12] <flexible> how do i make a second x-screen
[07:12] <the_file> and
[07:12] <the_file> um
[07:12] <iflema> the_file: try firefox
[07:13] <the_file> does microsoft word doesen't work for ubuntu?
[07:13] <airtonix> ...
[07:13] <iflema> the_file: well
[07:13] <spiky25> the_file are you a webmaster ?
[07:13]  * airtonix does a facepalm
[07:13] <iflema> the_file: not ver 6
[07:13] <flexible> aha
[07:13] <spiky25> if not internet explorer on linux will be worthless
[07:13] <silv3r_m00n> I have a netbook with ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix  , and have to show a presentation using a projector , will ubuntu work with external projectors ?
[07:13] <the_file> lols
[07:14] <the_file> those were just jokes
[07:14] <Twisted_Little_J> hi
[07:14] <Twisted_Little_J> please tell me that every one here ( talks !!!! )
[07:14] <spiky25> use firefox, opera, chromium or google chrome depending of your needs ...
[07:14] <flexible> anyone know how to set up a seperate x-screen?
[07:14] <spiky25> !ask
[07:14] <Twisted_Little_J> this is a geek thingy
[07:15] <Twisted_Little_J> hello ( once again ) hoping someone will answer
[07:15] <Andrew12> ask a question
[07:15] <spiky25> !ask > Twisted_Little_J
[07:15] <iflema> lol
[07:15] <Twisted_Little_J> well i dont have a question
[07:15] <Andrew12> epic syntax
[07:15] <Twisted_Little_J> actully once again , i want to ask
[07:15] <mnn> lol
[07:15] <the_file> ...
[07:16] <Andrew12> If you have a question, then ask it.
[07:16] <Twisted_Little_J> where can i find , the hacking " channels " ?
[07:16] <Twisted_Little_J> :D
[07:16] <Andrew12> o.0
[07:16] <airtonix>  #telstra-help-desk
[07:16] <the_file> there is not 'hacking' channel
[07:16] <the_file> *no
[07:16] <bazhang> Twisted_Little_J, not on this server, unless you mean kernel hacking.
[07:16] <spiky25> lol
[07:16] <Twisted_Little_J> well
[07:16] <Twisted_Little_J> i want to know more about hacking
[07:16] <spiky25> open source hacker here ...
[07:16] <bazhang> its offtopic here Twisted_Little_J
[07:16] <Twisted_Little_J> open source hacker , sounds good
[07:16] <Andrew12> hacking can mean a lot of things
[07:16] <Twisted_Little_J> so anyone can help me ?
[07:17] <Twisted_Little_J> yes i know
[07:17] <bazhang> Twisted_Little_J, no
[07:17] <spiky25> but I don't hack to do bad things sorry ...
[07:17] <Twisted_Little_J> i mean hacking by ( understanding everything )
[07:17] <bazhang> Twisted_Little_J, wrong channel, wrong network
[07:17] <Twisted_Little_J> i dont want to do bad things
[07:17] <iflema> define bad
[07:17] <Twisted_Little_J> you misunderstood me
[07:17] <airtonix> iflema, things i don;t like
[07:17] <Twisted_Little_J> bad = hacking and stealing and doing illegal things
[07:17] <bazhang> Twisted_Little_J, then clarify, on a single line
[07:17] <Twisted_Little_J> right ?
[07:18] <the_file> Twisted_Little_J ackass
[07:18] <spiky25> I do harware hacking also sometimes ...
[07:18] <bazhang> the_file, that is not needed
[07:18] <Twisted_Little_J> jackass you know where to shove it ( your little hole )
[07:18] <sinchan> Twisted_Little_J : hacker never do that
[07:18] <klear> I'm having problems with static IP -- I can ping from within the box but I cannot ping or connect to the box from outside... says timeout
[07:18] <spiky25> hardware ...
[07:18] <iflema> hack ya head maybe
[07:18] <Twisted_Little_J> listen you little geeks
[07:18] <the_file> hardware=kernel
[07:18] <airtonix> i smell a troll
[07:18] <Twisted_Little_J> can you help me or not ?
[07:18] <bazhang> Twisted_Little_J, please stop
[07:18] <Twisted_Little_J> BrB
[07:19] <steveness> i need the interface to become plasma
[07:19] <steveness> i am in kde
[07:19] <silv3r_m00n> how to switch off the bluetooth on ubuntu ?
[07:19] <spiky25> 5% of hackers are bads, most of them are open source developpers, IT technicians and so on ...
[07:19] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[07:19] <klear> can anyone help with networking please?
[07:20] <iflema> klear: of....
[07:20] <steveness> i need help with my kde being gnome, i think plasma is not default any more
[07:20] <laocoon> anyone know how to force a screen resolution? I installed radeonhd driver and the screen resolution doesn't go up to where xserver-xorg-video-ati had it set
[07:20] <spiky25> Twisted_Little_... ask without illegal stuff and I maybe will answer you dear ...
[07:21] <bazhang> steveness, did you follow the link I sent you
[07:21] <steveness> can someone point me to where plasma is located
[07:21] <steveness> bazhang
[07:21] <spiky25> klear lan or wlan (wifi) ?
[07:21] <klear> i have ubuntu server configured with static IP and all works fine except I can't ping the box from outside -- this is LAN
[07:21] <Zeikfried> Steveness - Open a terminal/Konsole and type in    kwin --replace
[07:21] <spiky25> laocoon > xorg.conf
[07:21] <steveness> the windows are regular
[07:22] <steveness> i need plasma, where is it located?
[07:22] <bazhang> steveness, please answer my question
[07:22] <steveness> yes
[07:22] <steveness> that isn't what i am looking for
[07:22] <laocoon> spiky25 I tried through that but it didn't change my options... do I have to set a default resolution in there?
[07:23] <iflema> klear: #ubuntu-server..... maybe
[07:23] <klear> ok, i'll check, thank you very much guys!
[07:24] <spiky25> laocoon you could stick one default resolution there if I remember ...
[07:24] <laocoon> spiky25 I'll look through the xorg.conf help again... I tried specifying the modes in a subsection under the section "screen" but will dig a bit further
[07:25] <steveness> i found where plasma is and now i am good
[07:25] <rance94> hey can somebody help me with ftp servers
[07:25] <error404notfound> can i hide desktop icons?
[07:25] <steveness> rance94, i could
[07:25] <rance94> steveness : that would be great if u could
[07:25] <iflema> steveness: you on 9.10? all good? i havent done the kde thing on ubuntu lately
[07:26] <rance94> steveness could u help right now??
[07:26] <steveness> rance94, tell me what you need
[07:26] <andresmh> my webcam stopped working for some reason (it's a builtin one on a thinkpad). The LED indicator turns on but I do not see anything. I tried on cheese and gstreamer-properties. How can solve this? I'm running an up to date 9.10
[07:27] <rance94> steveness, i want to connect to a remote ftp server with like telnet but idk how or a server to connect to?
[07:27] <steveness> what would it be for
[07:28] <four> hi i am trying to move some files around on my computer but when i try to send a file to the trash i get this error: 'could not display"/home/lint/downloads/etc, the location is not a folder
[07:28] <andresmh> i've noticed a decrease in the response rate in the Ubuntu forums. I wonder if my questions are getting harder or the forums are getting busier so attention is hard.
[07:28] <four> can anyone help me
[07:28] <rance94> steveness i am learning sockets in python and i made a localhost client and server but the book im reading talks about connecting remotly and telnetting to it
[07:28] <iflema> four: ask away
[07:28] <steveness> ouch, python, i am not touching that
[07:28] <four> hi i am trying to move some files around on my computer but when i try to send a file to the trash i get this error: 'could not display"/home/lint/downloads/etc, the location is not a folder
[07:28] <rance94> why not
[07:29] <steveness> i am horrible at it
[07:29] <klear> four: maybe your user doesn't have access to remove files?
[07:29] <four> klear, it didnt mention anything about permissions
[07:29] <rance94> steveness i just want to mess around with a remote server do u know how or were i could do that??
[07:29] <steveness> you need a remote server ready to connect to
[07:30] <iflema>  four: "could not display" sounds odd
[07:30] <steveness> i think you need 2 computers or a loopback
[07:30] <rance94> steveness yes i need one lol
[07:30] <rance94> ahh
[07:30] <steveness> idk how to loop back
[07:30] <four> iflema, i think it has something to do with the style of sidebar i am using, i have it as tree and not just showing folders but files as well
[07:30] <rance94> ahh well i better find somebody w/ a remote server
[07:30] <airtonix> rance94, use a virtual machine
[07:30] <bastid_raZor> error404notfound: yeah, delete them.
[07:30] <Alan502> Do you know what this error is about: error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1    i got it trying to install pygame
[07:30] <steveness> airtonix good idea
[07:31] <error404notfound> bastid_raZor, thanks, really helped me...
[07:31] <rance94> airtonix idk how to do that i tried but couldn't get it to work because i need the windows disk and some stuff like that that i dont have
[07:31] <steveness> use virtualbox
[07:31] <bastid_raZor> error404notfound: how else would you hide an icon on the desktop?
[07:32] <rance94> steveness i dont know how lol and yes i used google
[07:32] <steveness> go to applications > add and remove
[07:32] <error404notfound> bastid_raZor, i was looking for something like "computer_icon_visible" on gconf-editor > apps > nautilus
[07:32] <iflema>  four: maybe do the work in nautilus....
[07:32] <steveness> and search up virutalbox
[07:32] <rance94> steveness i already have it downloaded
[07:32] <steveness> i gtg
[07:32] <rance94> ahh ok
[07:33] <steveness> srry
[07:33] <rance94> its k
[07:33] <hipitihop> Dell laptop using dual screen with ATI FGLRX driver and after a reboot I can no longer get it to enable the external monitor. Can someone help ?
[07:33] <rance94> airtonix can u help me wit the vm
[07:33] <terriblesarcasm> what is the channel for people developing linux apps, but not developing ubuntu itself?
[07:33] <Diverdude> Does Ubuntu ship with thunderbird? Or do you recommend another mailprogram?
[07:34] <hipitihop> Diverdude, Ubuntu ships with Evolution
[07:34] <rance94> airtonix can u help me wit the virtual machine
[07:34] <airtonix> rance94, got your ubuntu live cd there ?
[07:34] <Diverdude> hipitihop, ok...and Evolution is better than thunderbird?
[07:34] <airtonix> rance94, or iso
[07:34] <Madpilot> terriblesarcasm, many apps have their own channels, either here on Freenode or on other IRC networks
[07:34] <bastid_raZor> error404notfound: but honestly, what would be the point of having icons on the desktop that you are just going to hide?.
[07:34] <iflema> Diverdude: if ya happy with thunderbird its a few clicks away.... evolution can be a bit buggy....
[07:34] <rance94> airtonix i have ubuntu 9.04 on a usb is that good??
[07:34] <gh0s7> can anyone help me with a nessus install?
[07:34] <airtonix> rance94, preferable that you have the ISO file
[07:35] <terriblesarcasm> Madpilot: any ideas of where to try if i would like to be pointed in the right direction toward starting to program for linux?
[07:35] <Diverdude> iflema, ok....well i dont know...i never used either..only MS outlook hehe
[07:35] <rance94> airtonix sooo go to thepiratebay,org ??
[07:35] <error404notfound> bastid_raZor, Disabling them will make my wallpaper look good :P, and i would still be able to navigate to them using ~/Desktop :P
[07:35] <airtonix> rance94, ? no
[07:35] <iflema> Diverdude: evolution is most intergrated into gnome... thus the bugs
[07:35] <hipitihop> Diverdude, those sort of questions are subjective and depends on how you measure better, try it and see what you think
[07:35] <rance94> airtonix well were should i go??
[07:35] <gh0s7> can anyone help me with nessus?
[07:35] <Diverdude> okthanks