[04:01] <Warbo> I mean manually :)
[04:01] <timalot> programcode: follow that... if u run into any probs or have a question ask me
[04:01] <dave__> mandeep yes I have limewire working
[04:01] <dave__> when xserver starts
[04:01] <mandeep> did u get  adeb pckg for it
[04:01] <Warbo> dhan: Is it the only USB/SATA/SCSI drive in your computer?
[04:01] <TheGateKeeper> mc|amb: log out
[04:01] <dave__> but im stuck in shell
[04:01] <scrappy_> astro_-: i do "ls -t /dev | head" sometimes
[04:02] <dhan> yup
[04:02] <dhan> its already plugged
[04:02] <dave__> i went to the limewire site and downloaded the deb package yes
[04:02] <bmanisk> Tomaze: ok can you point me to some documentation?
[04:02] <Warbo> dhan: Then in a terminal run "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -o uid=yourusername" (where yourusername is actually your Ubuntu username) and then look in /mnt
[04:02] <ed1t> !java
[04:02] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:03] <mc|amb> TheGateKeeper; that doesn't work i've had that problem for a week or two(i've restarted a lot of times) sorry
[04:03] <timalot> azureal: dmesg
[04:03] <Shinzetsu> someone?
[04:03] <Alexander> i deleted my networkmanager icon out of the task bar thing, how do i get it back?
[04:03] <dave__> actually mandeep
[04:03] <VanessaE> did anyone see my question?
[04:03] <mandeep> ?
[04:03] <dave__> I use the java versionb
[04:03] <mandeep> o
[04:03] <mandeep> im trying to configure it right now
[04:04] <mandeep> so hopefully it workks
[04:04] <dave__> and I have a link that says java -jar limewire.jar
[04:04] <azureal> timalot: i have an alias that tails /var/log/messages
[04:04] <mandeep> i tried frostwire but it would never load for me
[04:04] <Warbo> VanessaE: I saw it but don't know anything about SATA
[04:04] <Alexander> i deleted my networkmanager icon out of the task bar thing, how do i get it back?
[04:04] <azureal> timalot: i think this time it said SCSI device sdb... perhaps it's on /dev/sdb
[04:04] <VanessaE> oh ok
[04:04] <azureal> timalot: how do i confirm this
[04:04] <ed1t> !java
[04:04] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:04] <dave__> i swear to god NVIDIA and ubuntu dont get along
[04:05] <timalot> azureal: dmesg will print the device name assigned to the usb device...
[04:05] <dhan> it says it is a directory
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> cwraig im a little confused
[04:05] <Warbo> mandeep: Try gtk-gnutella, it's really fast and doesn't need java
[04:05] <dave__> gnutella is horrible
[04:05] <azureal> timalot: yea, true, just before you wrote this, I found sdb1 in dmesg output =P
[04:05] <dave__> the p2p network is crap
[04:05] <mandeep> whats bad about it
[04:05] <DJAdmiral> dave__: neither do ATI and ubuntu lol
[04:05] <mandeep> o
[04:05] <TheGateKeeper> mc|amb: sounds like something is broken not sure how you fix it. Should be shut dwon safely using terminal and entering: shutdown now
[04:05] <dave__> uhh try never getting a download over 12kb/s
[04:05] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: thanks. it's working-ish now.
[04:06] <dave__> limewire i rarely have anything less than 200kb/s
[04:06] <VanessaE> it's weird, I made the changes to my (compiled) kernel to allow for SATA, rebooted with it, copied the system over from my old IDE disk to the new SATA disk, made the usual changes to fstab to get it to run from the new disk, and it just worked fine
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> i dont think any graphics card works without having to learn linux inside out
[04:06] <Alexander> i deleted my networkmanager icon out of the task bar thing, how do i get it back?
[04:06] <bmanisk> Is anybody using ubuntu-calender? I installed it using synaptic and now I cant find it
[04:06] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: sorry, no clue what's wrong... hmmm... time for a hardware upgrade?
[04:06] <VanessaE> so I guess that means the kernel included with the dapper CD is just broken?
[04:06] <thejusticecow> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH <-- how do i fix this?
[04:06] <dave__> DJADMIRAL: do you find that everytime you run updates your xorg.conf gives you errors
[04:06] <Warbo> The latest MLDonkey (2.7.7) has fixed gnutella support, so it can be used for donkey, overnet, bittorrent, gnutella, gnutella 2, regular http/ftp and I think a few others
[04:06] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: i know you had nice intentions and all but I don't think I'll touch my video card settings again until I get a new laptop :)
[04:06] <VanessaE> justice: apt-get install build-essential
[04:06] <thejusticecow> thanks
[04:07] <mandeep> mldonkkey??
[04:07] <DJAdmiral> dave__: erm, no my xorg.conf is fine - now
[04:07] <Warbo> mandeep: mldonkey.sourceforge.net (DON'T use the mldonkey-server package in Ubuntu, it's broken)
[04:07] <dave__> Mine hasnt changed and suddenly today I cant boot again
[04:07] <mandeep> ill give it a try if limewire fails
[04:07] <miza> what means "No DHCPOFFERS received." "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping." ?
[04:07] <dave__> donkey is worse than gnutella
[04:08] <Warbo> mandeep: However, you can use "sudo apt-get build-dep mldonkey-server" to get everything needed to compile mldonkey
[04:08] <dave__> mandeep just install the java jre package
[04:08] <programcode> timalot: request your help again, I followed there steps, log out click xgl log in, takes a second then it takes me back to the login screen
[04:08] <mandeep> i have it
[04:08] <mandeep> thats why im confused why nothing works
[04:09] <azureal> timalot: so thx =)
[04:09] <scrappy_> dave__: so everythings crap? :-)
[04:09] <dave__> and what happens when you run java -jar <limewirefile.jar>
[04:09] <Warbo> Donkey has older/rarer files than gnutella. Gnutella would probably be better for illegal stuff though
[04:09] <timalot> azureal: np
[04:09] <Warbo> dave__: Limewire is gnutella isn't it?
[04:09] <programcode> timalot: request your help again, I followed there steps, log out click xgl log in, takes a second then it takes me back to the login screen
[04:09] <dave__> no
[04:09] <dave__> and no
[04:09] <timalot> programcode: ok ... 1st try using ctrl-alt-backspace to restart the x server... then check out /var/log/xorg.0.log
[04:09] <Warbo> dave__: Then why does gtk-gnutella connect to Limewire users?
[04:10] <dave__> I download alot of music from limewire.. movies torrents (azureus) is best
[04:10] <dhan> warbo whats next?
[04:10] <Warbo> dhan: It should be in /mnt (Places>Computer>Filesystem?mnt)
[04:10] <Warbo> >mnt
[04:10] <mandeep> god damn java doesnt work
[04:10] <dave__> damnit mandeep what error do you get
[04:10] <dhan> it doesnt appear there
[04:10] <mandeep> no error
[04:10] <mandeep> when i open it
[04:10] <mandeep> its just a blank gray screen
[04:10] <Warbo> dhan: What does "mount | grep mnt" say?
[04:10] <timalot> programcode: sorry checkout ~/.xsession-errors
[04:11] <dhan> its empty
[04:11] <mandeep> it shows limewire border
[04:11] <dave__> in the terminal you type java -jar and the app
[04:11] <mvrick> how do i i add  hotkeys in ubuntu?
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone help me fix grub on ubuntu with knoppix
[04:11] <dave__> brb
[04:11] <Warbo> dhan: It musn't be sda1 then. Was there an error when you ran sudo mount blahblah
[04:11] <Warbo> ?
[04:11] <programcode> timealot: I tried that and I can't find that log there is not log of even folder there
[04:11] <dhan> none
[04:11] <Warbo> !tell mvrick about keyboard
[04:11] <timalot> programcode: how bout ~/.xsession-errors
[04:12] <Terminus> mandeep: are you using sun java or gcj? if you're running limewire, running sun java will give you the least amount of trouble.
[04:12] <Warbo> dhan: Can you put the output of "dmesg | tail" into the pastebin please?
[04:12] <mandeep> i installed the java from automatix
[04:12] <Warbo> !tell dhan about pastebin
[04:12] <programcode> Nope
[04:12] <dhan> i dont know that
[04:12] <dhan> i dont know how
[04:12] <mandeep> o
[04:12] <Wanderer> hmm, last nights upgrades really screwed up my firefox fonts
[04:12] <Warbo> dhan: ubotu should have just told you
[04:13] <dhan> yes he/she told me already
[04:13] <programcode> timalot: I have a Nvidia Geforce 2 MMX, so this xgl should be able to work with it...right?
[04:13] <VanessaE> hm, looks like the ULI/SATA problem started upstream somewhere in Debian's realm...
[04:13] <Warbo> dhan: Then run dmesg | tail and copy/paste it's output into the pastebin website
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> Warbo could u help me fix my ubuntu drive as i lost my windows drive with the bootloader now i can only boot live cds
[04:13] <gnomefreak> !easysource > ed1t
[04:14] <timalot> programcode: according to http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL#nVidia_Cards , you should
[04:14] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: I have lost several drives recently. I wasn't able to fix any
[04:14] <YoussefAssad> quick procmail/maildir question: I must specify in my rules the maildir target with a trailing slash, yes? Like "subs/ubuntu/" for maildir where mbox-style would have been "subs/ubuntu" ? Is this correct?
[04:14] <dhan> where will i run that in the terminal?
[04:14] <programcode> maybe its the driver
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Warbo are they permanently screwew
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> *screwed
[04:14] <timalot> programcode: u are using method A from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl ?
[04:14] <programcode> how do I update my driver in Ubuntu for my video card
[04:14] <programcode> yes
[04:15] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: got a windows CD?
[04:15] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: Maybe. I wouldn't like to say
[04:15] <programcode> I may need to update my driver how do I update my nvidia geforce 2 mmx in ubuntu?
[04:15] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[04:15] <timalot> programcode: make sure u have made /usr/bin/startxgl.sh executable ... and that u have pasted in what says on that page
[04:15] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper i have a windows cd
[04:15] <Warbo> programcode: I think geforce2 uses "legacy" driver
[04:15] <dave___> ok anyone get the error invalid connectedMonitor string "monitor"
[04:15] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: try fixing the MBR
[04:15] <programcode> how would I update them in the termainl?
[04:15] <programcode> *terminal
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper the windows drive is screwed
[04:16] <timalot> programcode: there is a another wiki for that somewhere
[04:16] <Warbo> programcode: If you have it installed already then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will upgrade it, along with everything else
[04:16] <Terminus> works fine AFAIK
[04:16] <dhan> it says usb disconnected
[04:16] <johnm1019> whenever i start my computer totem loads, well i apt-get remove'd totem and its still coming up on boot -- thoughts?
[04:17] <programcode> Terminus how did you update your drives
[04:17] <Terminus> programcode: just install nvidia-glx.
[04:17] <dhan> warbo
[04:17] <Warbo> johnm1019: Look in System>Preferences>Session
[04:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Paddy_EIRE i had ubuntu on seperate drive and i would like to save it if possible
[04:17] <Terminus> programcode: if that doesn't work, use nvidia-glx-legacy
[04:17] <programcode> Terminus: how do I do that, I am new to linux?
[04:17] <Paddy_EIRE> the win cd wont fix ubuntu
[04:17] <timalot> programcode: if u want latest drivers from NVIDIA use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[04:17] <Warbo> dhan: Have you put it into pastebin so I can have a look?
[04:17] <TheGateKeeper> !grub
[04:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:17] <Terminus> programcode: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:18] <johnm1019> Warbo, its not listed under startup programs :-\
[04:18] <TheGateKeeper> !grub > Paddy_EIRE
[04:18] <dhan> not yet beacause the usb was disconnected
[04:18] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper this doesnt tell me what i need to know
[04:18] <kingrayray> boot a livecd, chroot, grub-install
[04:18] <kingrayray> right?
[04:18] <YoussefAssad> !ubuntu > YoussefAssad
[04:18] <Paddy_EIRE> kingrayray can i do it with the current knoppix live cd im in
[04:18] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: have you looked in the ubuntu forums?
[04:18] <programcode> Terminus: I checked I got the latest
[04:19] <dave___> is archive.ubuntu.com down?
[04:19] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper very few answers
[04:19] <kingrayray> Paddy_EIRE: probably, i don't know specifically what to do though.. haven't had to do it since i used gentoo.
[04:19] <dave___> nvm
[04:19] <dave___> just slow
[04:19] <Terminus> programcode: looks like you don't need to update then. :)
[04:19] <YoussefAssad> oh dear; I tripped up procmail
[04:20] <programcode> Timealot: whenever I do the  gksudo gedit on the startxgl.sh I get this warning
[04:20] <programcode> (gedit:22148): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:20] <programcode> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:20] <programcode> \
[04:20] <timalot> programcode: thats ok
[04:20] <programcode> okay well I did everything exactly with that page
[04:21] <programcode> But still can't log into xgl session
[04:21] <gnomefreak> programcode: use pastebin to paste things please
[04:21] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: can you mount your hard disk in knoppix, save your data then reinstall?
[04:21] <timalot> programcode: u installed the xserver-xgl
[04:21] <timalot> package
[04:21] <programcode> timealot: yeah says installed
[04:21] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper cannot boot from live cd with windows drive plugged in so i have nothing to save to
[04:22] <thejusticecow> su: authentification failure <--- should this just be the same as my sudo apt-get pw?
[04:22] <dhan> waah!!!!!!!!!1i cant make it!
[04:22] <programcode> timealot: I just checked its installed
[04:23] <kingrayray> here's something i've wondered..
[04:23] <kingrayray> does sudo passwd root
[04:23] <kingrayray> count as a vulnerability?
[04:23] <NET||abuse> !bcm
[04:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about bcm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:23] <NET||abuse> !broadcom
[04:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper i would like to reinstall anyway as i didnt want my fs to be ext3
[04:23] <Warbo> dhan: There is a basic page about mounting stuff manually at help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount if it's any help
[04:23] <timalot> programcode:  ok when something goes wrong during an xsession (the point after u login) ... all errors go to .xsession errors ... but u cant login in again (in non-xgl mode) coz it will overwrite .xsession-errors... so u got to go to a terminal and look at it to see what error it is giving
[04:23] <Snake007uk> ok guys, i want to know if anyone has done this, i have 3 LCD screens connected via 2 cards one Nvidia and one ATI, all screen have same resolution etc...  I want to install ubuntu as my base OS and still ahve 3 displays (possibly with XGL) would this be possible ?
[04:23] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Rescue_FAQ
[04:23] <timalot> programcode:  ~/.xsession-errors
[04:24] <dhan> wait ill try again
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper grub is not mentioned
[04:24] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: you can't fix the MBR on your windows disc and boot into that?
[04:24] <dhan> after pasting the files whtas next??
[04:25] <shides> ciao
[04:25] <shides> sono italiano
[04:25] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper windows drive is dead i think
[04:25] <dron> Hi, im forwarding application window from servidor to clients, and on some clients the font of that application are looking good but on other it looks bad, all clients are ubuntu, server suse, where should i search?
[04:25] <shides> vorrei il link del server italianjo
[04:25] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper halts the comp
[04:25] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: and your ubuntu drive?
[04:25] <miza> can someone tell me whats wrong when ifup ra0 output looks like this? http://pastebin.ca/115311
[04:25] <Paddy_EIRE> ubuntu drive fine but no boot record
[04:25] <kingrayray> dron: i could be wrong, never done remote Xsessions, but do all the clients have the same fonts installed?
[04:25] <Warbo> dhan: After you click send, copy the address and paste it into here
[04:25] <azureal> shides: #ubuntu-it
[04:26] <scrappy_> Snake007uk: youre clearly insane ;p
[04:26] <shides> grazie
[04:26] <dron> kingrayray Yes! it is
[04:26] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: got data on it that you need to recover?
[04:26] <Snake007uk> scrappy_: http://www.linuxcraft.co.uk/room.jpg
[04:26] <Snake007uk> check out that link
[04:26] <dron> the same package fonts
[04:26] <dhan> then automatically the files woulb be in my usb?
[04:26] <mumbles> ok im getting fedup now
[04:26] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah my hard work at getting ubuntu to run at descent level of satisfaction
[04:26] <Warbo> dhan: That will let me see what the error message says
[04:27] <Paddy_EIRE> alot of hours/days/weeks
[04:27] <dhan> ok wait
[04:27] <mumbles> I am getting problems installing ubuntu base
[04:27] <dron> when am forwarding an application to client, wich fonts are using? from server? or client?
[04:27] <mwe> Paddy_EIRE: can't you install grub?
[04:27] <thejusticecow> i am not on a network i am the only user and installer, i use my password for sudo commands but it does not work for su, does anyone know why?
[04:27] <Paddy_EIRE> mwe how?
[04:28] <mwe> Paddy_EIRE: boot a live cd
[04:28] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: use that FAQ to backup what you can then reinstall
[04:28] <programcode> timealot: I type that in terminal gives me a error
[04:28] <mwe> Paddy_EIRE: you don't need to reinstall I think
[04:28] <scrappy_> Snake007uk: very nice
[04:28] <Krafturinn_> hi all
[04:28] <thejusticecow> !su
[04:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about su - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:28] <Paddy_EIRE> mwe im running from knoppix right now
[04:28] <mwe> Paddy_EIRE: yes
[04:29] <programcode> timealot: if I type ~/.xsession in my terminla says file not found
[04:29] <Warbo> thejusticecow: su only works for super users (sudo su will work for example)
[04:29] <mwe> Paddy_EIRE: then run grub. make sure menu.lst on your ubuntu parition is setup correctly
[04:29] <timalot> programcode: sorry it
[04:29] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper i can hardly backup my installed progs and customizations
[04:29] <dhan> an address will appear?
[04:29] <timalot> programcode: it's ~/.xsession-errors
[04:29] <mwe> !grub
[04:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:29] <thejusticecow> Warbo: but i have only gave this computer one password.. how can i not know the password for su ?
[04:30] <Paddy_EIRE> mwe where is grub to run
[04:30] <neviedais> !damn
[04:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about damn - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:30] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: do what mwe says
[04:30] <mwe> Paddy_EIRE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:30] <neviedais> !dpkg
[04:30] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[04:30] <timalot> !whoami
[04:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about whoami - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:30] <mwe> Paddy_EIRE: read that. it applies to you as well
[04:30] <programcode> timealot: still no such file or directory, where is that at
[04:30] <neviedais> Sweet...
[04:30] <miza> can someone tell me whats wrong when ifup ra0 output looks like this? http://pastebin.ca/115311
[04:30] <Warbo> thejusticecow: The password will not work regardless of what it is. Su is disabled for non-super users, just that the error it gives is "wrong password"
[04:30] <kingrayray> programcode: open the file in a text editor.
[04:30] <kingrayray> i.e. gedit ~/.xsession-errors
[04:30] <Krafturinn_> i have been trying to install yelp again
[04:30] <Krafturinn_> no luck
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> i cant restore the original boot record from the other drive as it isnt working and ive read these tutorials guys
[04:31] <thejusticecow> Warbo: how do i become a super user?
[04:31] <dxdemetriou> for 64bit processors, each program from apt is 64bit?
[04:31] <funkmaster> hi there i have a problem when i use sudo i get: funky1 is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[04:31] <funkmaster> how can i fix this?
[04:31] <programcode> kingrayray: I can't even find the file....  I have a problem. I'm installing a LAMP (Linux/Apache/MySQL/Php), but when I go to Firefox and try to execute my test script, an error message "call to undefined function mysql_connect() appears", what configuration file do I need to touch ?
[04:31] <Warbo> thejusticecow: sudo
[04:31] <Krafturinn_> E: The package yelp needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:31] <thejusticecow> Warbo: k, thanks
[04:31] <mwe> miza: it's probably misconfigured. is it wireless?
[04:32] <neviedais> marce59, try: # apt-get install apache2 php5 php5-mysql mysql-client mysql-server mysql-admin phpmyadmin
[04:32] <miza> mwe: yes, wireless
[04:32] <longwave> marce59: have you installed the php5-mysql package?
[04:32] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: package name?
[04:32] <marce59> neviedais: thanks
[04:32] <mwe> miza: fix /etc/network/interfaces. paste it at the pastebin if you have to
[04:32] <Krafturinn_> thegatekepper: I am trying to install yelp
[04:32] <marce59> longwave: yes, thanks
[04:32] <timalot> programcode: it's at /home/<your username>/.xsession-errors this can be abbreviated to ~/.xsession-errors ... it is  a text file containing the errors
[04:33] <programcode> timealot: Well it keeps give me file not found
[04:33] <Warbo> dhan: Sorry I missed you. The address in the location bar will change when you click send
[04:33] <Paddy_EIRE> mwe i cannto mount ubuntu drive with the ubuntu cd, although i can with knoppix
[04:33] <miza> mwe: here http://pastebin.ca/115322
[04:34] <timalot> programcode: how bout u make me a login on your machine and ill take alook :)
[04:34] <jimcooncat> is there a quick way to purge a new installation back down to the basic server level? maybe "sudo aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop"?
[04:34] <funkmaster> hi there i have a problem when i use sudo i get: funky1 is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. how can i fix this, i could use sudo b4, but i think i probably changed it somehow...
[04:34] <programcode> timalot: how do I do that?
[04:34] <dhan> here :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19692
[04:35] <Warbo> jimcooncat: aptitude gets rid of unneeded dependencies, but I think each major package is installed "manually" (ie. they are not counted as merely dependencies of ubuntu-desktop)
[04:35] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: apt-get install yelp should do it, suggest you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:35] <dhan> warbo
[04:35] <Paddy_EIRE> mwe is there anyway i cna put supergrub on usb stick and then boot from that and restore
[04:35] <dhan> i sent the address
[04:36] <jimcooncat> Warbo, how about purging xorg?
[04:36] <Warbo> funkmaster: Make sure you are in the group "admin", and make sure admin can use super user priviledges in visudo
[04:36] <Warbo> jimcooncat: purging just removes config files. Removing xorg would probably get rid of loads of stuff
[04:36] <jimcooncat> I want an environment like I did a server install
[04:37] <Warbo> jimcooncat: debfoster lets you REALLY control what stuff is installed (but on a system with loads of packages installed it can take a while)
[04:37] <dxdemetriou> I think to buy one 64 bit cpu, but I don't know what happens with the 32 bit programs. In synaptic are all 64 bit?
[04:37] <dhan> dude!!
[04:37] <programcode> timalot: how do I create it where you could have remote user to my machine, so maybe you could fix it
[04:37] <sproingie> great, now the uk archive is hanging.  anyone got an ubuntu archive that works?
[04:37] <Warbo> dhan: Ah, got it :) (I am doing stuff on other desktops, sorry)
[04:37] <jimcooncat> Warbo, I got time, I'll check out debfoster, thanks
[04:37] <dhan> so what will i do?
[04:38] <ed1t> do i need packages and sources in my sources.list?:
[04:38] <Warbo> dhan: What you seem to have done there is give me a list of your music files. It would be more useful if I could see "dmesg | tail" :)
[04:39] <programcode> Hey how do I mount a .cue or a .bin file in Linux?
[04:39] <daunt> is there an Ubuntu repository with tools for setting up a dyndns configuration?  i want to be able to access my new ubuntu machine from home ..
[04:39] <Warbo> !iso > programcode
[04:39] <trappist> programcode: use bchunk to convert it to a .iso
[04:39] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19693
[04:39] <dhan> what im doing is i need to transfer my music files to my usb
[04:39] <daunt> mount somefile.iso /mnt/somemountpoint -o loop,ro
[04:39] <dhan> how will i do that?
[04:39] <programcode> I want to just mount it in linux? how can I do that?
[04:39] <timalot> programcode: i was joking , look i dont know whats going on ... basically what https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl tells u to do is 1. add the needed repos + install needed software , 2. make a file called /usr/bin/startxgl.sh that starts the xgl server  and a gnome-session .... 3. make a file /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop that points to the file in step 2 ... then u login ... if it doesnt work dont log in again....
[04:39] <Warbo> dhan: Yes, but showing me your music will not tell me why your USB drive is not mounting
[04:40] <daunt> programcode, see above
[04:40] <trappist> programcode: as I said, convert it to an iso.  then mount the iso as daunt said.
[04:40] <dhan> how is dmseg?
[04:40] <Warbo> dhan: Run "dmesg | tail" in a termianl and it will tell you stuff. Pastebin that stuff
[04:40] <daunt> anyone got a line on other repositories that are not mainstream?  like, i need dyndns and all that ..
[04:41] <timalot> programcode: pastebin /tmp/pasteme to show others whats going on
[04:41] <sproingie> ok, us.archive.ubuntu.com and uk.archive.ubuntu.com are now both hopeless
[04:41] <trappist> daunt: dyndns is a service, not a piece of software.  several packages that ship with ubuntu support dyndns.
[04:41] <sproingie> i'm starting to wonder if i shouldn't go back to solaris
[04:41] <daunt> trappist, i can't find any packages that offer dyndns service ..
[04:41] <trappist> daunt: apt-cache search dyndns
[04:41] <dhan>  what is the line between the dmesg and tail??
[04:41] <Warbo> sproingie: What about gb.archive.ubuntu.com?
[04:42] <daunt> dhan, its the pipe symbole:  |
[04:42] <trappist> daunt: dyndns offers the service - these package just automate the maintenance
[04:42] <programcode> timealot: I don't understand how to pastbin please explain little more detailed, somewhat new to linux thx :)
[04:42] <sproingie> Warbo: i'll give it a try.  i need to find some kind of archive status page
[04:42] <Tomze> trappist: what package?
[04:42] <dhan> pipe symbol??
[04:42] <daunt> trappist, i've searched for dyndns with synaptic ..
[04:42] <Warbo> dhan: dmesg is huge, so tail only looks at the last bit. The line makes a "pipe" and it is above the \ for me (UK keyboard)
[04:42] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone give me a simple way of installing grub so i can boot back into ubuntu again
[04:42] <dhan> what is that and where id that?
[04:42] <trappist> Tomze: the ones returned by apt-cache search dyndns
[04:43] <timalot> !pastebin
[04:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:43] <Tomze> trappist: bahhh.. you really want me to go to a new screen and type... damn your tough ;)
[04:43] <trappist> daunt: see pmsg
[04:43] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: put this into terminal and tell me what it return please: cat /etc/issue
[04:43] <timalot> i wonder how many times !pastebin has been typed in this channel
[04:43] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  it says " Ubuntu 6.06 LTS \n \l "
[04:44] <dhan> got it
[04:44] <dhan> just wait for the address
[04:44] <sproingie> Warbo: also hanging.  i'm starting to suspect my isp, since sourceforge has been hanging too
[04:44] <VanessaE> question:  suppose I mount the dapper ISO via loopback..  is there a proper place to put a new kernel image or two so that I can re-burn the ISO and boot it with the new image?
[04:44] <ced_> Hey there. Since the update this morning, suddenly my sound support stopped working in 6.06. Before, everything was working superb. I have no clue where to start troubleshoot. I also searched the forums, without success. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[04:44] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: well no wounder you have got it mainly pointing at breezy repos
[04:44] <programcode> tiemalot: here is my pastbin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19695
[04:44] <Warbo> sproingie: I've been using gb all day on and off. Not got any 404s or even long download times
[04:45] <sproingie> Warbo: hanging on connect, to pretty much every mirror.  but it's just ubuntu mirrors, beerorkid and security work just fine
[04:45] <dhan> heres the address
[04:45] <dhan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19694
[04:45] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  so, how do i fix this ?
[04:46] <sproingie> Warbo: i wonder if they're doing that proprietary ECN hack that linux did
[04:46] <killaman> hey i wondered if someone could help me. im installing ubuntu, and im at the partition screen, i wanna dualboot with windows,so i resized that partition, now i go to make the swap partition, but do i select Primary or Logical :S
[04:46] <frogzoo> ced_: run volume control - there will be a mute on the PCM or PCM-2
[04:46] <geekdom> 1)How do I take x out of the default startup
[04:46] <geekdom> 2)How do I forward the x to the system I am really on ?
[04:46] <Warbo> dhan: Looks like the drive was plugged in fine, then unplugged
[04:46] <TheGateKeeper> !easy ubuntu
[04:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about easy ubuntu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:46] <frogzoo> geekdom: install & man ssh
[04:46] <TheGateKeeper> !easyubuntu
[04:46] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:46] <maxx1> hi there... i just updated my kernel and it overwrote the lines in menu.lst which allow me to dual boot with windows..... can someone who also dual boots please let me have a look at their menu.lst?
[04:46] <dhan> wait
[04:46] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  : put drapper instead of breezy
[04:46] <trappist> is us.archive.ubuntu.com dead
[04:46] <timalot> programcode: its too hard... u need to use linux a bit longer ... come back to try getting xgl to work
[04:46] <geekdom> yboard of.
[04:47] <YoussefAssad> trappist: was not working for me, but that was some weeks ago
[04:47] <incandenza> killaman: you can use either...  but you can only have a max of 4 primary partitions
[04:47] <geekdom> How do I get the "X" out of the default bootup ?
[04:47] <dhan> i alreadt unplugged then plugged it
[04:47] <Paddy_EIRE>  TheGateKeeper cna i not just install grub on the knoppix drive the guides i have been givin do not appy
[04:47] <dhan> whats next?
[04:47] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: the version it has returns suggests that you already have dapper installed
[04:47] <killaman> well as far as i know dont i only need to make swap parttion and then main ubuntu parition?
[04:47] <incandenza> killaman: yes
[04:47] <Warbo> dhan: Are you in GNOME, KDE or XFCE (or something else)? *ie. Ubuntu, Kubuntu or Xubuntu)
[04:48] <marce59> i installed these packages. But it doen't work. I think the problem is about config files. The message is "Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/apache2-default/prueba2.php on line 5
[04:48] <killaman> ohh right, cheers mate :)
[04:48] <frogzoo> killaman: you only want to create 3 primaries & 1 extended - & then make as many logical partitions as you need in the extended
[04:48] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  : yes I have drapper installed, but how do I point to the drapper packages instead of breezy
[04:48] <ced_> frogzoo: unfortunately there is no mute! thanks for the tip, though.
[04:48] <dhan> ubuntu
[04:48] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: not sure never had to do it
[04:48] <incandenza> killaman: so if all you have is windows, swap, and linux root, you can just use 3 primary partitions, if you want
[04:48] <dhan> xfice
[04:48] <killaman> cool :)
[04:48] <TheGateKeeper> !easyubuntu > Krafturinn_:
[04:49] <frogzoo> ced_: well it's worth checking again - try volume control -> file -> change device
[04:49] <Warbo> dhan: I don't see why it isn't working automatically then. Anyway run "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -o uid=dhan" and if there is any output then pastebin it
[04:49] <TheGateKeeper> !easyubuntu > Krafturinn_
[04:49] <gdb> Krafturinn_: "Dapper"
[04:49] <sproingie> oh well, us mirror responds now after long delays
[04:49] <ced_> frogzoo: nope, everythig is "on"
[04:49] <frogzoo> ced_: check the 'alsa' & the 'OSS' devices...
[04:49] <ced_> frogzoo: is there a command how I could test the sound card in raw mode..
[04:49] <yggdrasil> does anyone know how i can conver ogg to mp3 ?
[04:50] <Warbo> !info soundconverter
[04:50] <ubotu> soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB
[04:50] <frogzoo> ced_: aplay's as good as any - or just go to sound preferences & test
[04:50] <daunt> apt-cache search dyndns <---- returns nothing.  is there some repository i don't have in place properly, or are these dyndns apps only available thorugh some other debian repos?
[04:50] <yggdrasil> warbo. i got that up and running but the mp3 button will not work ?
[04:50] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: read the PM or do this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories PLF repos need correcting info here --> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[04:50] <Warbo> I am pretty sure there is a dyndns updater in Ubuntu (but for me it tried to update my address to <IP_ADDRESS> :) )
[04:50] <incandenza> daunt: looks like they are mostly in universe
[04:51] <Warbo> yggdrasil: You may need some more gstreamer0.8 codecs/plugins
[04:51] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  okay. thanks
[04:51] <dhan> whats the word after /mnt?
[04:51] <daunt> incandenza, universe?  i don't think i have it ..
[04:51] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: yw :-)
[04:51] <incandenza> daunt: check /etc/apt/sources.list, it should be there but commented out by default
[04:51] <ced_> frogzoo: neither aplay nor the preferences test did work
[04:51] <Warbo> dhan: a hyphen, a lowercase O, then uid=dhan
[04:51] <marce59> neviedais: can you help me ?
[04:52] <Paddy_EIRE> In windows this would be solve already and id be working again now im on here reading guides that dont even apply to my prob which should be straight forward, I feel like ive been lied to by the linux community as i was led to believe that linux would be simple to maintain all i want to do is put a boot record on my ubuntu drive so i can boot my os
[04:52] <dhan> ok
[04:52] <yggdrasil> warbo is there some other converter lib i need to get installed ?
[04:52] <Paddy_EIRE> in windows fixmbr would do the trick
[04:52] <daunt> oh, damn.  okay, i've uncommented the universe repo's from my sources.list, doing an update, and will try again .. thanks ..
[04:52] <yggdrasil> paddy just boot from the live cd and then run grub
[04:52] <frogzoo> ced_: well try alsamixer
[04:52] <Warbo> yggdrasil: I think it may be a subliminal way to promote Ogg. I usually use command line tools like lame, ogg123 and stuff (dump to wav, then to MP3)
[04:53] <incandenza> daunt: yup, that should do it...  np
[04:53] <Paddy_EIRE> yggdrasil where do i run grub ????
[04:53] <yggdrasil> cmd line
[04:53] <programcode> can someone help me to get the bchunk command to work. I am trying to convert a .bin to .iso?
[04:53] <dhan> is there a space bet sudo mount and /dev?
[04:53] <yggdrasil> i think its called grubconf
[04:53] <Paddy_EIRE> just type grub
[04:53] <VanessaE> grub...eh *shudder*
[04:53] <Warbo> dhan: Are you chatting on your Ubuntu computer?
[04:53] <VanessaE> think I'll stick with lilo :)
[04:53] <arkangelp> Hello everyone
[04:53] <daunt> programcode, man bchunk
[04:53] <dhan> yup
[04:54] <programcode> daunt I got bchunk, how do I use it
[04:54] <Warbo> Then select this: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -o uid=dhan        then press middle mouse button in a terminal
[04:54] <ced_> frogzoo: you're my hero! in alsamixer, the PCM channel was muted. but in the gnome volume application everything was ok. how did this happen??
[04:54] <gdb> VanessaE: What value does lilo add that grub does not?
[04:55] <yggdrasil> warbo i just got an mp3 player my old player was an ogg player so now i have a ton of oggs :(
[04:55] <VanessaE> gdb: well it's not that it may or may not add value...but for some reason, lilo just seems simpler to me :)
[04:55] <Warbo> yggdrasil: Serves you right :)
[04:55] <yggdrasil> got it cheap
[04:55] <sproingie> gdb: inability to read a filesystem, requirement of reconfiguring every time the boot sector is updated, why wouldn't everyone want lilo?
[04:55] <marce59> I've already remove the ; in front of extension=mysql.so in php.ini, but i don't know why the function call to mysql_connect() is undefined
[04:55] <yggdrasil> lets see then what is this grub conf
[04:55] <gdb> VanessaE: It is simpler, because it's far far less capable.  It's also, despite the simplicity, harder to manage.
[04:55] <Paddy_EIRE> yggdrasil command not found
[04:55] <VanessaE> but then again, I've been using it for years and only messed with grub maybe twice.
[04:55] <sproingie> VanessaE: what's simpler than grub?  you don't have to rerun it every time you install a new kernel
[04:55] <yggdrasil> paddy are you on the live cd ?
[04:56] <sryan__> Are the servers in apt-get update having issues?
[04:56] <sryan__> I'm seeing timeouts.
[04:56] <frogzoo> ced_: did you check both devices in volume control? both alsa & oss? they're on different screens
[04:56] <arkangelp> Hello everyone
[04:56] <Warbo> LILO is good if you want to remove Linux, since it is self contained
[04:56] <incandenza> sryan__: yes, word is they are overloaded
[04:56] <sproingie> sryan__: so it's not just me.  the us and uk mirrors both are hanging
[04:56] <arkangelp> does anyone knows the channel where I can go to het help on nickserv and chanserv?
[04:56] <sryan__> incandenza: Oh, no big deal.  I wonder why the overload?
[04:56] <ced_> frogzoo: yeah i did!
[04:56] <yggdrasil> paddy_eire msg me
[04:56] <sproingie> sryan__: they'll respond if you give 'em a minute or so per connect
[04:56] <Paddy_EIRE> yggdrasil im running from the Knoppix Live DVD
[04:56] <yggdrasil> hate to see anyone discouraged so bad
[04:56] <dhan> this is the msg
[04:57] <incandenza> sryan__: dunno.  "sudden spike in ubuntu popularity" is all I've heard :)
[04:57] <yggdrasil> oh knoppix huh
[04:57] <gdb> "Well, I don't know what value the car adds to my life, I think I'll just stick with my horse and buggy!"
[04:57] <ced_> ah great
[04:57] <dhan> dhan@cameron:~$  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -o uid=dhan
[04:57] <dhan> mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[04:57] <dhan> dhan@cameron:~$
[04:57] <Paddy_EIRE> yggdrasil only because i was told that i may need it
[04:57] <ced_> frogzoo: .... PCM was under "Recording" and not under "Playback"
[04:57] <yggdrasil> well thats the equivvelant of running a 98 cd to fix a windows xp proboblem
[04:57] <frogzoo> VanessaE: read the grub docs - once you know what's going on, grub's really nice
[04:57] <Warbo> dhan: Are you SURE it is plugged in?
[04:57] <yggdrasil> just msg me
[04:57] <sryan__> incandenza: That may be true... :)  It's surely gaining traction fast..
[04:57] <dhan> yup
[04:57] <VanessaE> frog: I might do that some time :)
[04:57] <ced_> frogzoo: i never checked the "Playback" section of the volume manager.. why should i have? :o)
[04:57] <gdb> VanessaE: Seriously, you'll be doing yourself a favor by learning grub.
[04:57] <Paddy_EIRE> yggdrasil oh so i wont listen to that guy again
[04:57] <sproingie> incandenza: last update i did included a new kernel source, which is 44 megs.  i think ubuntus mirrors arent quite as bandwidth-endowed as debian's
[04:57] <ced_> frogzoo: thanks for your friendly help!
[04:58] <gdb> VanessaE: lilo is ancient "dustbin of history" technology. ;-)
[04:58] <frogzoo>  ced_ no probs, have fun
[04:58] <VanessaE> hehe
[04:58] <dhan> waah
[04:58] <Warbo> dhan: try "sudo modprobe usb-storage" then try again (pressing up will go to the previous command)
[04:58] <dhan> i surrender
[04:58] <ced_> frogzoo: you too, good-bye
[04:58] <incandenza> sproingie: yeah, maybe that is it
[04:58] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19697
[04:58] <azureal> lo, was wondering if stopping the output of "tail -f" could somehow be done by hitting 'q'... is it relatively easy to expand an alias to accomplish this?
[04:58] <yggdrasil> paddy you can use it . but you need to know how to do it. just like if you were doing the the 98 flppy to fix a xp problem
[04:58] <sorush20> why do I keep getting these x errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19697
[04:58] <dhan> maybe i will do it next time
[04:58] <programcode> hey how do I mount a iso in ubuntu, daunty I lost what you type?
[04:58] <gdb> VanessaE: To be fair, when it was being introduced, my first thought was, "wth is this?  lilo works just fine!"
[04:58] <VanessaE> yeah I know, but then again so are my computing skills in general (I come from a very short line of Commodore users...at least back in "the day" :D )
[04:58] <dhan> thanks for the time and effort warbo
[04:58] <dhan> tc
[04:58] <sproingie> incandenza: they really need to add bittorrent to apt.  considering dapper ships with it, there's no excuse
[04:58] <yggdrasil> paddy whats the real problem are you trying to remove linux or did you some how bork up your boot record ? or dual boot
[04:58] <Warbo> dhan: Maybe file a bug if you are sure it is pluged in. Include output from "dmesg | tail" and "mount"
[04:59] <frogzoo> !iso
[04:59] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:59] <gdb> Commodore brought us the Amiga!
[04:59] <incandenza> sproingie: hmm, that could be interesting.  could get a bit complicated, though
[04:59] <sproingie> incandenza: it would be a lose for small files, but it'd save bandwidth
[04:59] <Paddy_EIRE> yggdrasil i had windows on primary hd and ubuntu on secondary, windows drive died all of a sudden and now i cant boot ubuntu drive
[05:00] <VanessaE> at any rate...sooner or later I'll learn grub...I just keep putting it off :)
[05:00] <yggdrasil> ohhhh k.... let me think about that one.
[05:00] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: load up grub from a live cd
[05:00] <Paddy_EIRE> so people keep saying
[05:00] <yggdrasil> frogzoo hes only got aknoppix disk
[05:00] <marce59> hi, folks ! anybody can help me ? the question is : the error message "Call to undefined function mysql_connect() ", why Apache or php can't find mysql_connect in my system ?
[05:00] <Paddy_EIRE> i have ubuntu aswell
[05:00] <sproingie> incandenza: it should do a content negotiation, so if the mirror wants to, it could send back a torrent instead of the actual file
[05:00] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: d/l RIP
[05:00] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  it fixed this yelp thingie thx again
[05:00] <frogzoo> ... or the live cd, but RIP is quick 2 d/l
[05:00] <yggdrasil> paddy_eire what version ?
[05:01] <Paddy_EIRE> i have official ubuntu live cd
[05:01] <Paddy_EIRE> dapper
[05:01] <yggdrasil> oh well wtf are you doing boot that up
[05:01] <VanessaE> ah 12 seconds and my copy of knoppix will be in...
[05:01] <incandenza> sproingie: there'd have to be a way to arrange for you to stay on the torrent after the apt-get is done
[05:01] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: yw :-) gald to hear you are back in  buisness
[05:01] <Paddy_EIRE> yggdrasil iwas told that it wouldnt do it so i reboot to knoppix
[05:01] <yggdrasil> warbo i just figured that its because mp3 isnt a free format it has restrictions on distribution.
[05:02] <yggdrasil> paddy_eire .. sorry . just boot up the live cd and you should be good to go in a bit
[05:02] <dave_dan> Hello I was hoping someone knew how to maintain desktop settings such as background between boots
[05:02] <sproingie> incandenza: you'd just configure it in apt.conf, Apt::Get::Torrent
[05:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Im gonna boot ubuntu cd again then use gaim :( to talk on this chan
[05:02] <yggdrasil> Warbo can i msg you ?
[05:02] <yggdrasil> paddy_eire .. my msg is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:02] <yggdrasil> uh msn
[05:02] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  I still have a little error in my sources.list
[05:03] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: which is?
[05:03] <yggdrasil> frogzoo whats the cmd from the live cd to install grub ?
[05:03] <Krafturinn_> lemme put on pastebin i just installed webboard
[05:03] <frogzoo> yggdrasil: I just boot the OS & reinstall grub from there
[05:03] <sproingie> incandenza: probably include a dpkg-reconfigure wizard to do the settings.  it's something i should try doing myself, but it's probably easier to keep it out of the fetch process and just use it to build an offline mirror
[05:03] <yggdrasil> is it apt-get install ?
[05:04] <yggdrasil> frogzoo
[05:04] <TheGateKeeper> !grub
[05:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:05] <incandenza> sproingie: yeah, that could work
[05:05] <sproingie> incandenza: would be hard to get the adoption rate needed for it to be worth it tho
[05:06] <sproingie> incandenza: building it into the distro and on by default seems the only way
[05:06] <daunt> thanks for your help dudes .. its outta here time ..
[05:06] <frogzoo> yggdrasil: 'root hd(0,0) ; kernel /boot/vmblah<tab complete>xxx root=/dev/hda ro   ; initrd /boot/init<tab complete>xxx ; boot '   & you're away
[05:07] <yggdrasil> yea reading it...
[05:07] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i19698
[05:07] <yggdrasil> ill try and help the dood out.
[05:07] <neopsyche> hello
[05:07] <yggdrasil> just hurts me to see peopl get bitter at lin
[05:07] <neopsyche> can someone please help me with an email header question
[05:07] <neopsyche> I would like to know if there is a way to download only email headers using mozilla mail and then delete the ones that are spam.. sort of the same way a person could if they are using a usenet server.
[05:07] <neopsyche> can anyone help with this issue..
[05:08] <sproingie> neopsyche: mozilla's spam filter requires the body.  best solution is to run antispam on the server side
[05:08] <neopsyche> hmm.. im unsure about spamfilters..
[05:08] <sproingie> neopsyche: you can always set it to download headers only and manually delete subjects.  or use the lousy filter mechanisms
[05:09] <neopsyche> YES how do i do that?
[05:09] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: who didn't read the last bit of my message :-) need to correct PLF repos look here ---> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[05:09] <neopsyche> how do i download headers only?
[05:09] <sproingie> neopsyche: havent used it in a while, but i think the headers-only setting is in the properties for the mail account
[05:09] <neopsyche> not on Usenet but on pop
[05:09] <neopsyche> servers
[05:09] <sproingie> neopsyche: and it's for IMAP.  i doubt it will work on pop
[05:09] <neopsyche> thanks
[05:09] <neopsyche> will check it out
[05:09] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: see where it says: he none-free repos should corrected to be as follows:   ?????
[05:10] <Snake007uk> can i run XGL on a Silicon motion graphics cad
[05:10] <sproingie> Snake007uk: probably not.  it's for specific nvidia and ati cards only ATM
[05:11] <Snake007uk> ok i see
[05:11] <Snake007uk> thnx
[05:11] <Snake007uk> Nvidia FX550 should be supported though ?
[05:11] <Snake007uk> Nvidia Quadro
[05:11] <marce59> warbo, can you help me >
[05:11] <neopsyche> hmm dont seem to see any obvious options
[05:12] <sorush20> hi guys is there a package called libatk-bridge around?
[05:13] <frogzoo> sorush20: there's bridge-utils ...
[05:13] <zsh> the default speed for writing a cd is set to maximum possible on gnome/nautilus. how do i change that
[05:13] <incandenza> sorush20: there's a libatk1.0-0, maybe that includes it?
[05:13] <sproingie> Snake007uk: look at the xgl docs and see if it's on the list.  if not, it won't work
[05:13] <sproingie> !xgl > Snake007uk
[05:14] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: have to scoot, be back shortly :-) correct your PLF repos and you should be fine or comment them out by putting a # at the begining of the line
[05:14] <marce59> i've installed apache mysql and php, but when i go to firefox and browse to my script file prueba2.php (it tries to connect to a mysql database) the error is call to undefined function mysql_connect()
[05:14] <frogzoo> zsh: you can set speed using k3b &/or cdrecord
[05:14] <Snake007uk> sproingie:  got a link ?
[05:14] <Paddy_EIRE> im back now in ubuntu  livecd
[05:15] <zsh> frogzoo, r those programs i need to install.
[05:15] <incandenza> is there a way, from the command line, to see the list of files installed by a particular package?
[05:15] <sproingie> Snake007uk: check out the wiki link ubotu gave you.  it's a great starting point
[05:15] <frogzoo> zsh: not just you, everyone needs to install k3b, they just don't know it yet :D
[05:16] <frogzoo> incandenza: dpkg -L package_name
[05:16] <Lacasito> one of the options of apt-get, i don't know which one, look the man pages
[05:16] <VanessaE> I don't - our only burner is in my husband's box and he already has k3b ;)
[05:16] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  : it works now :)
[05:16] <clever> how do i get a network card to start working using a certain kernel module?
[05:16] <zsh> Fracture, thats a kde program, i'm on gnome
[05:16] <incandenza> frogzoo: ah, nice, thanks.
[05:16] <zsh> Fracture, sorry i meant frogzoo
[05:17] <incandenza> frogzoo: what about for one that's not installed yet?
[05:17] <frogzoo> zsh: it comes with its own libs, but it's pretty sizeable
 are u here...
[05:17] <VanessaE> clever: load the module ("modprobe xxxxxxx") and configure the devide using "ifconfig" and/or "route"
[05:18] <VanessaE> device..
[05:18] <clever> ive allready loaded 3c589_cs.ko and i dont know what cmd to use with ifconfog/route
[05:18] <VanessaE> usually something like:  ifconfig eth0 up  <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>   will get you started
[05:19] <VanessaE> (change the IP address to suit you)
[05:19] <Sammylvz>  hi
[05:19] <clever> eth0 is allready up on the main network card
[05:19] <Paddy_EIRE> this has gone on maybe a little to long bad suggestion back to windies then
[05:19] <clever> and eth1 doesnt appear to exist
[05:19] <VanessaE> ok, then use eth1
[05:19] <VanessaE> hm
[05:20] <gdb> clever:
[05:20] <gdb> er
[05:20] <gdb> clever: What does 'ifconfig eth0' say?
[05:20] <frogzoo> clever: usually just editing /etc/network/interfaces should get your nic up with 'sudo ifup ethx'
[05:20] <clever> it shows the ip for the internal network card
[05:20] <clever> i currently have 2 network cards in the laptop
[05:21] <Sammylvz> i 4got how 2 get on 2 offtopic plz can some1 help me plz xx
[05:21] <gdb> clever: So you have eth0 working but not eth1?
[05:21] <clever> yeah
[05:21] <frogzoo> clever: so copy the exsting i/f defintion in /etc/network/interfaces & make a new one for the new i/f
[05:21] <VanessaE> sammy: for G-D sakes don't type in IM speak
[05:21] <gdb> Sammylvz: If you're going to talk like a 23 year old on AOL, I'm afraid I can't help you get to offtopic.
[05:21] <gdb> er 13 year old
[05:21] <YoussefAssad> heh
[05:21] <clever> root@laptop:/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia# ifup eth1
[05:21] <clever> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.ost
[05:21] <gdb> clever: Are they the same type of hardware?
[05:22] <clever> eth0 is internal to the laptop
[05:22] <clever> eth1 is a pcmcia card
[05:22] <gdb> clever: Or different brands?  ie; two Intel EtherExpress, or one NE2000 and one 3COM?
[05:22] <Sammylvz> gbim not 23 im 14
[05:22] <clever> i think there both 3com
[05:22] <VanessaE> clever: anything in dmesg that reacted to the modprobe for the other card?
[05:22] <clever> and i had them both working before on breezy badger
[05:22] <incandenza> Sammylvz: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:22] <frogzoo> clever: oh, pcmcia - not sure how that works
[05:22] <gdb> incandenza: Did you really have to do that?
[05:22] <clever> ive loaded pcmcia.ko and root@laptop:/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia# ifup eth1
[05:22] <clever> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.ost
[05:22] <clever> ops wrogn paste
[05:23] <incandenza> gdb: is that a problem?
[05:23] <Sammylvz> gdb: Im not talking lik a 23 year old im only 14 xx
[05:23] <VanessaE> sammy: even worse - we can help but for your own benefit, type like you learned to in English class, not like you learned off those IM programs please
[05:23] <gdb> Sammylvz: I said 13.
[05:23] <clever> ive loaded pcmcia.ko and 3c589_cs.ko and the card is a 3c589D
[05:23] <gdb> incandenza: Yes.  AOL-speak is the height of annoying.
[05:23] <clever> and it worked fine in breezy badger
[05:23] <incandenza> gdb: easier to just answer his question and let him leave than get in a big argument
[05:23] <gdb> incandenza: I'm in both channels, so he's not "leaving" from my perspective. :-(
[05:24] <incandenza> gdb: well...  there's always /ignore :)
[05:24] <Sammylvz> gdb: no u did not read wat u said
[05:24] <gdb> Sammylvz: No, you obviously didn't.
[05:24] <gdb> 10:21 < gdb> er 13 year old
[05:24] <gdb> Sammylvz: please review your scrollback buffer.
[05:24] <gdb> incandenza: Good idea on the /ignore.
[05:25] <sorush20> connecting to ubuntu archive.ubuntu.com is taking a long time..
[05:25] <sorush20> is there something wrong?
[05:25] <Rensato> hey can someone help me install ubuntu? i couldn't get pass trough the partition thingy xD
[05:25] <Sammylvz> gdb:it says 23 i not think incandenza:im not he im she
[05:25] <gdb> sorush20: There have been a number of folks experiencing delays with updates, package installations, and the like over the last few days.
[05:26] <sorush20> gdb: thanks..
[05:26] <sorush20> is there anywhere I could check the status..
[05:26] <incandenza> Sammylvz: sorry, "she"
[05:26] <gdb> sorush20: Yeah, not sure what the issue is.  You can "work around it" by changing the prexing country codes in /etc/apt/sources.list.
[05:26] <Sammylvz> kk
[05:26] <yggdrasil> paddy eire got busy sorry...
[05:26] <gdb> Sammylvz: I said "not if you talk like a 23 year old" and then "er, I mean 13 year old"  Wrap your brain around it, m'kay?
[05:27] <yggdrasil> padd_eire <frogzoo> yggdrasil: 'root hd(0,0) ; kernel /boot/vmblah<tab complete>xxx root=/dev/hda ro   ; initrd /boot/init<tab complete>xxx ; boot '   & you're away
[05:27] <gdb> sorush20: Are you trying to use us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:27] <scheuri> hi al
[05:27] <scheuri> all
[05:27] <Sammylvz> gdb: ok by the im 14
[05:28] <gdb> Sammylvz: Great, glad to hear it.  I apologize for not caring.
[05:28] <Sammylvz> gdb: ok
[05:28] <scheuri> anyone tried to install freeciv (with aptitude) and actually play it? I dont find the the appropriate command to do so ("freeciv" or alike is NOT existant)
[05:28] <mikeubuntu> My gosh I like ubuntu - been doing computers as a business since 1992 - full time all windows till now - this is great
[05:29] <shriphani> hey did the ubuntu owner make a trip to space in 2002
[05:29] <neom> I was just watching Episode 1x18 of Veronica Mars, and they had a huge debate about OS X vs Ubunti...!
[05:29] <mikeubuntu> to the man running quality at ubuntu - you the man
[05:29] <gdb> scheuri: If the package name is "freeciv" you can look for appropriate commands with "dpkg -l freeciv | grep bin" -- that's liable to turn up something for you.
[05:29] <h3sp4wn> scheuri: dpkg -L freeciv (you will find the executable somewhere in /usr/games probably)
[05:29] <gdb> shriphani: Yes
[05:29] <neom> *Ubuntu
[05:29] <shriphani> wow
[05:29] <gdb> shriphani: Not really the "owner", but the founder of Canonical, yes.
[05:29] <shriphani> cool
[05:29] <gdb> yeah, dpkg -L, not -l
[05:29] <scheuri> gdb and h3sp4wn.
[05:30] <miza> whats wrong when my ifup ra0 output looks like http://pastebin.ca/115311 and my /etc/network/interfaces looks like this http://pastebin.ca/115322 ?
[05:30] <scheuri> gdb and h3sp4wn: thanks alot...quite hard to find if the bins are called "civ-client-gtk"...;)...thanks a lot
[05:30] <gdb> shriphani: His name is Mark Shuttleworth, he's South African, and is a self-made millionaire.
[05:30] <gdb> scheuri: sure thing!
[05:30] <shriphani> wow
[05:31] <mikeubuntu> Mark Shuttleworth is the quality guy? Great job!
[05:31] <gdb> shriphani: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth -- Is an interesting bio of him.
[05:31] <lnx^> hey, is there some alternative for the built-in VNC system in ubuntu? when i use my box remotely, the screen doesn't always update
[05:31] <Awesome-o2000> what the hell - is there a new release out or something?
[05:31] <gdb> mikeubuntu: No, that's Simon Law.
[05:31] <lnx^> i.e. 'old stuff is left on the screen'
[05:31] <mikeubuntu> ok
[05:31] <gdb> lnx^: I use freenx from seveas' respository.
[05:32] <kidbuntu> are the ubuntu servers are still overloaded?
[05:32] <distanceisdeath> hello, was their a bug with the broadcom drivers with the release of dapper?
[05:32] <gdbuntu> I'm just trying to fit in.
[05:33] <YoussefAssad> archive.ubuntu.com is giving me pain, so yea, looks like it
[05:33] <kidbuntu> distanceisdeath: why did you say that? is there a problem?
[05:33] <gdb> prefix a different country code.
[05:33] <kidbuntu> YoussefAssad: yeah me to. its preeeeeetty slowww
[05:33] <sfkhooper> hey all
[05:33] <sfkhooper> hey is this the right channel to get tips on how to resolve a compiler problem in ubuntu?
[05:33] <Seveas> !reposdown
[05:33] <ubotu> There are bandwith issues causing problems with security.ubuntu.com (and sometimes archive.u.c) -- please use a mirror
[05:33] <distanceisdeath> kidbuntu: i heard something about it and i cannot get wireless with dapper...although i never had wireless breezy was released
[05:33] <lnx^> gdb: thanks looks good. how do you connect to a host that has freenx?
[05:33] <CarlFK> I have mplayer installed - how do I make it the default app for .pls files?
[05:33] <lnx^> I guess xvncclient doesn't work?
[05:34] <kidbuntu> distanceisdeath: never heard that before. i never tried it also.
[05:34] <gdb> lnx^: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:34] <gdb> lnx^: I don't know, I don't like VNC.
[05:34] <distanceisdeath> kidbuntu: well it is sucking
[05:34] <gdb> lnx^: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> what is the cli command that will tell you what installed packages, if any, rely on the named package
[05:35] <lnx^> thanks, gotta RTFM
[05:35] <gdb> lnx^: Actually, I can send you my freenx.list file you can put it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[05:35] <gdb> lnx^: one sec
[05:35] <YoussefAssad> frogzoo: bad
[05:35] <frogzoo> sfkhooper: seems you've arrived @ the right place
[05:35] <frogzoo> YoussefAssad: think bigger picture dude
[05:35] <lnx^> gdb: thanks, that'd be great!
[05:36] <gdb> lnx^: http://circe.inetdb.com/~cbell/freenx.list - put that file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d (it's a directory), then run 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get install freenx'
[05:36] <gdb> lnx^: sure thing
[05:36] <YoussefAssad> frogzoo: I am
[05:36] <frogzoo> overloaded repos means unexpected growth... & capacity can always be added
[05:36] <gdb> lnx^: you'll need the freenx client on your other machine, also.  If that machine is Windows, you can get it from http://www.nomachine.com/
[05:36] <YoussefAssad> frogzoo: in the bigger picture there's droves of n00bs seeing timeout errors which they don't understand
[05:36] <sfkhooper> frogzoo: saweet! help!!! my kdevelop says
[05:36] <sfkhooper> configure: error: Your Installation isn't able to compile simple C++ programs.
[05:36] <sfkhooper> Check config.log for details - if you're using a Linux distribution you might miss
[05:36] <sfkhooper> a package named similiar to libstd++-dev.
[05:36] <YoussefAssad> frogzoo: unexpected growth == bad. Growth == good
[05:36] <lnx^> gdb: thanks a lot, with that information i'll get quite far! ->
[05:37] <frogzoo> sfkhooper: please don't paste in to channel - it's a big no no - use pastebin instead
[05:37] <gdb> lnx^: sure thing!
[05:37] <frogzoo> !pastebin > sfkhooper
[05:37] <sfkhooper> yeah I just got that. sorry - newbie
[05:37] <frogzoo> sfkhooper: have you installed build-essential ?
[05:37] <sfkhooper> there's a package called build-essential?
[05:37] <azureal> ...
[05:38] <azureal> sfkhooper...have you ever used apt-cache search before?
[05:38] <frogzoo> sfkhooper: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[05:38] <UltraMagnus> hi, am having problems migrating my profile information from windows to linux (ubuntu) i have copied the contents of my windows profile to the "profile" folder in etc\firefox\ but now it only uses the imported settings when i run firefox with sudo
[05:38] <sfkhooper> just found it in KPackage, cool to install from there?
[05:39] <ZenMasterJG> hey all, i recently heard that ubuntu has built-in support for broadcom wireless chipsets, is this true?
[05:39] <peace-keeper> what should i install to play mp3s ?
[05:39] <frogzoo> UltraMagnus: use a firefox backup tool to backup your profile, just copying stuff willy nilly spells trouble
[05:39] <rki> amarok
[05:39] <ZenMasterJG> I've been struggling to get my wireless to work on FC5 for about a week now, and if it would just work on ubuntu, i would almost certainly switch distros
[05:39] <ColdDeath> peace-keeper: xmms
[05:39] <shawnr_> no amarok
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> XenMasterJG: What wireless chipset ?
[05:40] <shawnr_> if you want simplicity, rythbox
[05:40] <CarlFK> !tell me restricted formats
[05:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell me restricted formats - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:40] <ZenMasterJG> but i cant seem to find a compatability list anywhere on the website
[05:40] <UltraMagnus> frogzoo: uh, where is the backup tool?
[05:40] <ColdDeath> I haven't tried amarok, is it good?
[05:40] <frogzoo> ColdDeath: is the pope a catholic?
[05:40] <marce59> ! call to undefined function mysql_connect()
[05:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about call to undefined function mysql_connect() - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:40] <ZenMasterJG> h3sp4wn: its a Broadcom, 4318, IIRC
[05:40] <Dimensions> hi how do i configure my Hp printer i have got all driver files for it via wlan card
[05:40] <ZenMasterJG> 4*** series, certainly
[05:40] <ColdDeath> frogzoo: :) Does it work OK on GNOME?
[05:40] <CarlFK> !restricted formats
[05:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:41] <frogzoo> ColdDeath: oh yes
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> ZenMasterJG: It won't just work you will need the firmware
[05:41] <frogzoo> !amarok > ColdDeath
[05:41] <ColdDeath> frogzoo: Cool, I'll have to get it right away!
[05:41] <CarlFK> um.. .whats the trick to have ubotu msg someone?
[05:41] <frogzoo> ColdDeath: indeed you will
[05:41] <sfkhooper> frogzoo: ok, I installed build-essential
[05:41] <azureal> lo; do drives get mounted when the user logs in or @bootup?
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> !bcm43xx
[05:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:41] <ZenMasterJG> h3sp4wn: any idea where i could get that in any kind of easy way? Broadcom linux drivers deem to not exist
[05:41] <frogzoo> !ubotu > CarlFK
[05:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about > CarlFK - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:42] <h3sp4wn> ZenMasterJG: There is a a wiki page about it under the wifidocs (get the recommended firmware file - that it mentions you will need for 2.6.17 and above)
[05:42] <azureal> (btw, one great thing about ubuntu is that it auto-detected my wireless card..)
[05:43] <ZenMasterJG> h3sp4wn: cool, that looks like it'll be a lot easier then dealing with ndiswrapper under FC5... i'll give it a shot. Thanks! :)
[05:43] <azureal> you don't know the hell i went through in gentoo....
[05:43] <ColdDeath> frogzoo: Ok, its downloading now, with dependencies its over 90MB :)
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> ZenMasterJG: Alternatively if you update you fc5 to 2.6.17 - then the bcm43xx is part of the kernel (soft mac version)
[05:44] <hubba42> googling "ubuntu <question>" always brings up threads on the ubuntu forums.  this is the best way to start looking for ubuntu answers imho
[05:44] <azureal> hubba42: i agree
[05:44] <frogzoo> ColdDeath: which version ? 1.4.1 is latest available
[05:44] <forevertheuni> hi this is what I want to do. I don't have network in a computer for a moment so I want to download all the packages needed by alexandria to a directory and then to install it on the non-internet computer how can I do that? in a easy way
[05:44] <ZenMasterJG> h3sp4wn: cool, i'll check that out too.
[05:44] <azureal> sometimes i'm not sure what to search for, so i come here =)
[05:45] <peace-keeper> argh why on ubuntu everything is about half as fast as on win xp
[05:45] <ColdDeath> frogzoo: I'm not certain. I just did: sudo apt-get install amarok
[05:45] <gidim> Wow.
[05:45] <peace-keeper> eclipse takes 100 years to load
[05:45] <azureal> peace-keeper: liar!
[05:45] <peace-keeper> nah it's true
[05:45] <mikeubuntu> I wanted to be able to view CNN videos, installed Automatix, wow, really nice
[05:46] <azureal> well eclipse is an intense prog...
[05:46] <peace-keeper> opening windows, starting programs, everything slower than on windows
[05:46] <hubba42> if you dont know the right question how can you look for the right answer ;) i'll stop the socrates act, one of the key traits of a linux user is knowing where to find information that they need an answer to on the web, but irc is good too :-)
[05:46] <frogzoo> ColdDeath: that will work, but read the linkie for 1.4.1 instructions
[05:46] <peace-keeper> linux should stay a server os :)
[05:46] <gdb> It's not that it's "intense" it's Java.
[05:46] <azureal> peace-keeper: kde?
[05:46] <peace-keeper> gnome
[05:46] <azureal> still =)
[05:46] <gdb> peace-keeper: Stop trolling.
[05:46] <ColdDeath> frogzoo: Ok, thanks for your help!
[05:46] <gidim> Hi. :)
[05:47] <gdb> gidim: Howdy, what's up?
[05:47] <frogzoo> ColdDeath: yw
[05:47] <yunosh> hi, where can i browse the repositories? the website is very sparse about that
[05:47] <azureal> peace-keeper: if you want speed, you would look for speed
[05:47] <azureal> *cough* fluxbox*
[05:47] <peace-keeper> i'm just wondering
[05:47] <frogzoo> yunosh: synaptic's very useful
[05:47] <peace-keeper> no offense, i like linux, but as a desktop os it's always slower than windows
[05:47] <gidim> gdb: Well, after lots of shopping around, talking to "experts", I've settled on Ubuntu as my freedom from WinXPhome.
[05:47] <yunosh> frogzoo: not from inside ubuntu, looking for a web site or ftp server
[05:47] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: firstly, you running the 386 kernel?
[05:47] <azureal> peace-keeper: but actually my gnome is pretty fast...your trolling is really vague
[05:47] <yorukaze> linux slower?
[05:47] <sfkhooper> frogzoo: installing build-essential solved all my problems - thanks so much ;)
[05:47] <gdb> gidim: ::-D
[05:47] <azureal> peace-keeper: first you have to tell us all the mistakes you made =)
[05:48] <peace-keeper> :)
[05:48] <peace-keeper> dont know
[05:48] <ColdDeath> gidim:  Good choice :)
[05:48] <frogzoo> sfkhooper: glad to here it, cheers
[05:48] <gidim> gdb: So, like, I'm clueless newb.
[05:48] <peace-keeper> kernel: 2.6.15-26-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT
[05:48] <peace-keeper> is that wrong ?
[05:48] <gdb> peace-keeper: Yes, because if you find Ubuntu slower than Windows, you've made a heck of a lot of mistakes / misconfigurations.
[05:48] <yhonatan> someone use kguitar?
[05:48] <hubba42> peace-keeper, i disagree, i administer over a hundred PC's and they become seriously slow after 6 months of usage
[05:48] <azureal> gidim: yes! i love clueless noobs
[05:48] <gdb> gidim: Good, you don't have any bad habits to break then. ;-)
[05:48] <peace-keeper> i configured nothing, just installed it, what could i have done wrong ?
[05:48] <sorush20> I'm using kubuntu what package should I install for gnome desktop to be install as well?
[05:48] <yorukaze> i'm a noob too
[05:48] <Avdi> linux desktops can be slow.  The difference is that youi have the option of running XFCE, or IceWM, or Ion, or wmii, or Fluxbox... etc. if you want great performance.
[05:48] <gidim> Okay, so I'm downloading the AMD64 desktop torrent, be done in an hour.
[05:49] <Dimensions> grrrrrrrrr how can i install my print on ubuntu laptop ??
[05:49] <gdb> peace-keeper: You've done something!
[05:49] <gidim> I have to find a CD to burn it to.
[05:49] <asdfkp> is there a way to check to see if you have nvidia or ati from the command line?
[05:49] <wermut> Question: Is it adviceful to have the home directory only not readable by others and how can that be accomplished?
[05:49] <Avdi> whereas there is no ROBUST way to strip down the windows desktop
[05:49] <yhonatan> need help with midi,someone can help me?
[05:49] <hussam> peace-keeper, even if linux is slower than windows xp, remember that winxp was released late 2001 when PCs were slower. and currently ubuntu is a lot faster than Vista
[05:49] <gdb> Dimensions: System > Administration > Printing
[05:49] <azureal> peace-keeper: how much swap did you make...how muchc ram do you have?
[05:49] <asdfkp> is there a way to check to see ifyou have nvidia or ati from the command line
[05:49] <Dimensions> gdb:  the printer tobe configured without wires
[05:49] <gidim> I've heard things about Vista that scare me.
[05:49] <frogzoo> wermut: sudo chmod 700 /home/dude
[05:50] <incandenza> wermut: it can be, if you have other users on your system that you don't want to see it.  and 'chmod 700 ~'
[05:50] <ColdDeath> frogzoo: Thanks for showing me Amarok, it looks great and works well :)
[05:50] <DShepherd> is something up with the ubuntu servers?
[05:50] <mikeubuntu> I'm investigating installing XGL on my dapper, anybody like it? Good idea?
[05:50] <mcphail> DShepherd: yes
[05:50] <peace-keeper> swap: ram 768 mb, swap dont know
[05:50] <frogzoo> ColdDeath: & it gets better once you figure things out...
[05:50] <peace-keeper> i mean:
[05:50] <peace-keeper> ram 768 mb
[05:50] <peace-keeper> swap dont know
[05:50] <DShepherd> mcphail: do you know what exactly?
[05:50] <ColdDeath> frogzoo: Cool, I'm gonna fiddle with its options for a bit
[05:51] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: swap -s
[05:51] <peace-keeper> what does the k7 mean in my kernel name? is that bad ?
[05:51] <asdfkp> is there a way to figure out what kind of graphics card you have from the terminal
[05:51] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: swapon -s
[05:51] <Bison> hi
[05:51] <dserban> asdfkp: lspci
[05:51] <Dimensions> gdb: ??
[05:51] <zsh> asdfkp, lspci | grep nVidia
[05:51] <mcphail> DShepherd: no, but the british server is really crippled. i have changed my sources.list to point to the dutch servers
[05:51] <peace-keeper> 2gb swap
[05:51] <gidim> K7 always reminds me of Athlon.
[05:51] <Bison> What package contains normal microsoft fonts (times new roman, courier new, etc.)
[05:51] <zsh> asdfkp, lspci | grep ATI
[05:51] <gdb> Bison: msttcorefonts
[05:51] <peace-keeper> yeah i have athlon
[05:51] <Bison> gdb:thanks bunches
[05:51] <yggdrasil> does anyone know how to get soudconverter to convert to mp3s ? its blanked out or something
[05:51] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: means you're running the 64bit kernel - 64 bit can be painful, because there's more support for 32bit apps
[05:51] <gidim> I love AMD.
[05:51] <peace-keeper> but really, firefox, eclipse, thunderbird... everything about half as fast as on win xp
[05:52] <DShepherd> mcphail: ok. thanks for the info
[05:52] <gdb> Bison: I can't remember if it's in universe or multiverse, I think multiverse -- it depends on cabextract, another package that will install alongside it.
[05:52] <gidim> I have a new AMD64 2GHz, so I thought I'd get a 64-bit OS.
[05:52] <asdfkp> zsh that command didn't do anything?
[05:52] <mcphail> DShepherd: these things usually sort themselves out after a day or 2
[05:52] <azureal> your firefox is slow?!
[05:52] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda
[05:52] <sloncho> hi. using breeze. enabled muliverse and universe. it can not find rar. any ideas? or link to the package?
[05:52] <DShepherd> mcphail: yeah. i would thinks so too
[05:52] <zsh> asdfkp, so you dont have nvidia, try the next one
[05:52] <peace-keeper> hda is my winxp
[05:52] <asdfkp> zsh neither command did anything
[05:52] <gdb> sloncho: I think it's called something else in Breezy, but I can't recall what it is.  Have you done an apt-cache search rar after running apt-get update?
[05:53] <sloncho> gdb: no. i'll do
[05:53] <gidim> I made the switch to Opera8, 9, 9.1 from Firefox 1.5, so... :)
[05:53] <gdb> sloncho: kk
[05:53] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: so whichever is your linux drive
[05:53] <dmb> yo, is something wrong with archive.ubuntu.com ?
[05:53] <zsh> asdfkp, so you dont have nvidia nor ati
[05:53] <gidim> I'm happy.
[05:53] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: sudo hdparm -d /dev/hd#
[05:53] <rioter> hi, im trying to build a opengl app, GL/glut.h is still missing, ive installed the mesa and gl1 libs, anyone shed some light?
[05:53] <asdfkp> zsh so does that mean i'm out of luck for xgl?
[05:53] <wermut> incadenza: Doesn't it need to be recursive?
[05:53] <peace-keeper> /dev/hdc: using_dma    =  1 (on)
[05:54] <incandenza> wermut: no, if someone can't read the top directory, they can't read anything within it
[05:54] <mikeubuntu> lunch time, bye all
[05:54] <zsh> huh, try lspci alone and see what vga card you have
[05:54] <yggdrasil> does anyone know how to get soudconverter to convert to mp3s ? its blanked out or something
[05:54] <peace-keeper> guess i just have to buy a new pc... as always when u try a new OS :)
[05:54] <zsh> asdfkp, i have to go. good luck
[05:54] <asdfkp> zsh, thx
[05:54] <FurryNemesis> yggdrasil, I have same problem
[05:54] <m_0_r_0_n> quit The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
[05:54] <wermut> incadenza: thank you for the information
[05:54] <iloadmin> helo ever0one
[05:54] <FurryNemesis> think it's to do with codecs
[05:54] <gdb> I admit, I run Ubuntu on 2 pretty beefy machines. :-(  But they're all I have!
[05:55] <yggdrasil> furrynemesis can i msg you ?
[05:55] <incandenza> wermut: no problem
[05:55] <gidim> As I said, I've got a 2GHz AMD64, also got 1GB of DDR400... I'm hoping I have no visible slowdown. :D
[05:55] <FurryNemesis> yggdrasil, you can try
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> yggdrasil/FurryNemesis : lame (from multiverse)
[05:55] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: what's your cpu % atm - from 'top' ?
[05:55] <FurryNemesis> ] ooh
[05:55] <peace-keeper> 0.07
[05:55] <FurryNemesis> ok, will try that
[05:55] <FurryNemesis> ty
[05:55] <pwuertz> Hi, anyone installed ubuntu on a dmraid system? does the installer work this way? problems?
[05:55] <FurryNemesis> mm, got lame already
[05:55] <marcel__> how do I print in uBUNTu?
[05:55] <peace-keeper> i have an athlon500, guess thats just too slow nowadays
[05:56] <peace-keeper> but still it's strange that winxp is so much faster on it
[05:56] <gidim> Yeah, it's not too expensive to upgrade.
[05:56] <h3sp4wn> pwuertz: You will need the text based installer
[05:56] <FurryNemesis> h3sp4wn, does lame support batch conversions?
[05:56] <pwuertz> h3sp4wn, the graphical installer will break?
[05:56] <DShepherd> nixternal: ping
[05:56] <mcphail> peace-keeper: use a lighter desktop manager than gnome
[05:56] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: you run xp on this ??? & it's 2x faster than gnome? o.O
[05:56] <VanessaE> my Athlon64x2 3800+ box cost about $600 or so
[05:56] <gidim> I got an ASUS board for about $60 on NewEgg, the chip was pricey at like $150.
[05:56] <peace-keeper> yep
[05:56] <h3sp4wn> pwuertz: Is it hardware or software raid (I would expect the live cd installer to not work properly)
[05:57] <peace-keeper> maybe it's the graphic card drivers..
[05:57] <mcphail> frogzoo: windows (in all its incarnations) runs well on lower spec machines
[05:57] <pwuertz> h3sp4wn, its a fake-raid.... so I have to install dmraid on the live-system first
[05:57] <VanessaE> built mine starting with pricewatch and ended up at SMK Superstore for the actual hardware.
[05:57] <abhinay> anybody help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19700
[05:57] <frogzoo> mcphail: so does linux, only better
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> pwuertz: I think the alternative installer will work fine
[05:58] <yunosh> so, can anybody tell me where i find a repository browser online?
[05:58] <mcphail> frogzoo: _modern_ linux has large system requirements. Fair enough if you want to strip a lot of things out
[05:58] <pwuertz> h3sp4wn, do I have to install the alternative installer first?
[05:58] <gidim> Last time I went to the doctor, they found a chip in my head and took it out, now I don't hear Gates' voice telling me to use Windows anymore... I've had such good nights' sleep. :)
[05:58] <h3sp4wn> pwuertz: Its the other iso image that is available (not the desktop one)
[05:58] <peace-keeper> whats the lightest desktop manager out there ?
[05:59] <gidim> So, am I going to run into any problems reformatting and such?
[05:59] <kidbuntu> peace-keeper: i think its the one that xubuntu uses
[05:59] <VanessaE> lightest?  twm :)
[05:59] <mumbles> I cant get ubuntu base to install
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> peace-keeper: ratpoison
[05:59] <dreamthief> xfce ;)
[05:59] <VanessaE> but if you want features, maybe afterstep or xfce
[05:59] <dreamthief> fluxbox?
[05:59] <dreamthief> ^^
[05:59] <peace-keeper> i go try xfce
[05:59] <peace-keeper> cu
[05:59] <Avdi> Ion!
[05:59] <peace-keeper> :D
[06:00] <h3sp4wn> peace-keeper: ratpoison (is good it you want a really light window manager)
[06:00] <frogzoo> mcphail: agreed, peace-keeper's best option with 500MHz would probably be xfce
[06:00] <gidim> Both my OS drive and my storage drive are formatted in NTFS. :/
[06:00] <mcphail> frogzoo: You couldn't run GNOME and openoffice on the 32MB 300MHzPII i ran Win98 and Office97
[06:00] <YoussefAssad> erm. Icewm is ugly, but light as heck.
[06:01] <yggdrasil> s3sp4wn i tried that ... still doesnt go
[06:01] <VanessaE> sure you could, if you have enough swap ;)
[06:01] <gidim> A friend told me that my OS drive should be in EXT2 and my storage in EXT3, but... clueless newb. :)
[06:01] <VanessaE> and lots of patience :)
[06:01] <DShepherd> mcphail: xfce and abiword may be good enough
[06:01] <gidim> Ironically, both drives are at around half capacity right now.
[06:01] <frogzoo> gidim: no, swap should be formatted with 'mkswap'
[06:01] <VanessaE> gidim, my OS is on an ext3 partition and works fine
[06:02] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[06:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:02] <gidim> mkswap?
[06:02] <incandenza> gidim: I think you can upgrade ext2 -> ext3 in place, can't you?
[06:02] <yggdrasil> h33sp4wn i tried that ... still doesnt go
[06:02] <gidim> Don't ask me, clueless.
[06:02] <VanessaE> you can with tune2fs
[06:03] <frogzoo> gidim: say your swap partition's name is /dev/hda3, then to setup swap on it 'sudo mkswap /dev/hda3; swapon /dev/hda3'
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> gidim: reiserfs 3 is pretty stable
[06:03] <gidim> My friend told me to partition magic my drives and start swapping data until my 300GB storage is all EXT3.
[06:03] <VanessaE> (just tune2fs -j /dev/whatever should do it, and tweak your fstab of course)
[06:03] <Dimensions> can any one help me install my hp printer on my laptop ?
[06:04] <incandenza> VanessaE, gidim: right...  so you can easily switch it to ext3 if you want
[06:04] <FurryNemesis> Dimensions, you should have the drivers preinstalled with the os
[06:04] <h3sp4wn> yggdrasil: Find out what encoder it uses by default (and if ubuntu's version is crippled) - I know k3b can rip things with lame pretty easily
[06:04] <Awesome-o2000> k3b rules.
[06:04] <gidim> I'm just very nervous anytime the words "format" and "personal data" are in the same sentence. I've got 150GB of files I don't want to lose in the conversion.
[06:05] <VanessaE> gidim: don't have access to a dvd burner or a spare hard drive for a quick backup?
[06:05] <kyefun> w
[06:05] <npster> How do I run Thunderbird mail form Run a program ?
[06:05] <yggdrasil> h3sp4n i just got thru dealing with this on fc5 ... kind of.
[06:05] <gidim> VanessaE: Nope. The 300GB is my backup.
[06:05] <Dimensions> FurryNemesis: may be i have already installed it ... but how do i make it work ?
[06:05] <frogzoo> gidim: usb drive if your data's really important
[06:05] <VanessaE> hrm..
[06:05] <yggdrasil> maybe i can do a um.. dpkg reconfigure on sndconverter
[06:06] <incandenza> gidim: the tune2fs thing is actually not that scary an operation...  ext3 is just kind of some added structure on top of ext2
[06:06] <VanessaE> that's the only sane way to do it, gidim... find a way to back your data up and just re-partition/re-format the disk
[06:06] <npster> How do I run Thunderbird Mail from "Run a program" ?
[06:06] <gidim> frogzoo: Don't have one of those either. :)
[06:06] <npster> Argh...
[06:06] <gidim> Kinda why the repartitioning has to go off without a hitch.
[06:07] <frogzoo> gidim: playing with your data while doing an install, especially if you're just starting out, can go badly wrong - a proper backup's the only correct way forward
[06:07] <lnx^> gdb: can you use freenx to view the current desktop that is shown on the computer's screen?
[06:07] <VanessaE> gidim: do you have a friend on the net someplace that would let you NFS mount one of their disks?
[06:07] <dserban> Anyone familiar with populating your /dev directory to have your kernel successfully boot?  All i've got in there currently is /dev/.static.  If I boot with the livecd, how do I get MAKEDEV to create everying in /dev/ (just for a successful boot so that udev can take over)?
[06:07] <ryanakca> how do you make firefox open links in a new tab? like example, I click on a link in konversation and it opens in a new tab of an allready running browser window. How do I make it open in a new tab? the command isnt "firefox " nor is it "firefox %s"
[06:08] <gnomefreak> abhinay: is there a reason you sent a link to my pm?
[06:08] <npster> HOW DO I run "Thunderbird Mail" from "Run Program" ???
[06:08] <gidim> Well, the thing is my OS drive is only 20GB, so it's kinda hard to use for backup...
[06:08] <incandenza> ryanakca: there's an option in the preferences under 'Tabs'
[06:08] <VanessaE> dserban, try cp -a /dev /targetdrive while booted from the livecd
[06:08] <gnomefreak> npster: mozilla-thunderbird
[06:08] <h3sp4wn> dserban: just build the kernel with make-kpkg
[06:08] <ColdDeath> Wooo Amarok rocks!
[06:08] <VanessaE> (after you mount /targetdrive of course)
[06:09] <frogzoo> see gidim - the way this (alas) often pans out - people ask for help with an install, & due to the imperfections of irc, the instructions get garbled - they lose their data & get cranky at linux - we'd prefer that not happen, so a proper backup's really the only suggestion we can make
[06:09] <lnx^> apparently that isn't possible. is there any working alternative for remote assistance (VNC)? i'm having problems with updating the screen using VNC
[06:09] <npster> gnomefreak TNX A LOT
[06:09] <ryanakca> incandenza: no.... open a link from say XChat or Konversation, and have it open in a new tab in firefox... not open a link from firefox
[06:09] <PingunZ> How can I save flash movies I see in firefox ?
[06:09] <incandenza> ryanakca: yes, that's what I mean...  an option in firefox forces external links into new tabs
[06:09] <gidim> frogzoo: I can follow directions. :)
[06:09] <kidbuntu> archive.ubuntu.com is still overloaded.
[06:10] <shaka> hello, need help with ubuntu 6.06 server, how can i change screen resolution?? pm me
[06:10] <Tamale> kidbuntu:  Is it just really popular or is there a problem?
[06:10] <ryanakca> incandenza: ty
[06:10] <frogzoo> YoussefAssad: wine?
[06:10] <incandenza> ryanakca: np
[06:10] <yggdrasil> ok guys got it .... gstreamer0.8-lame maybe...
[06:10] <ryanakca> shaka: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:10] <frogzoo> Tamale: it's just popular
[06:10] <shaka> dont have xserver
[06:10] <YoussefAssad> frogzoo: that's an option of course, but I can actually use evolution with the OWA. But that is a little hackish unfortunately
[06:10] <h3sp4wn> shaka: vga= kernel boot line
[06:11] <shaka> how?
[06:11] <gidim> frogzoo: Though I'm just going to start with a reformat of the 20GB... or a re-partition, and just install Ubuntu.
[06:11] <Tamale> frogzoo: Is there a graph showing ubuntu popularity / repository load averages over the past months or so?
[06:11] <kidbuntu> Tamale: its a problem for me. i stil have so many applications needed to be installed but the download speed is really slow
[06:11] <gidim> I hear it can read and write NTFS, but not create new files on it.
[06:11] <frogzoo> Tamale: I for one would really like to see mrtg graphs on the repo traffic, but alas, no such exists
[06:11] <VanessaE> supposedly there's an NTFS library out that has full support
[06:11] <VanessaE> (including creating new files)
[06:12] <Vlet> Is there a way to create a symlink to, for example ~/somefile in a non home directory (/usr/local/bin/somefolder/somefile for example) so when someone accesses the file in /usr/local/... it points to the copy of 'somefile' in the current users home?
[06:12] <frogzoo> !fuse
[06:12] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:12] <Tamale> i know personally i know several people who are just now finding out about ubuntu
[06:12] <medfly> should i force dpkg to build something thats for i386 if i use amd64? will that work? :-)
[06:12] <gidim> Right, I won't mess with unsafe. :)
[06:12] <yggdrasil> furrynemesis ,h3sp4wn gstreamer0.8-lame might do it of course havign the dam reps working properly would also help
[06:12] <Tamale> it seems to be taking off in popularity
[06:12] <Frankenstein> !mirrors
[06:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:12] <VanessaE> Vlet: as root,   ln -sf /path/to/original  /path/to/new/link
[06:12] <Tamale> have the chat rooms become much more active than normal recently?
[06:12] <h3sp4wn> shaka: change it in /boot/grub/menu.lst (add it to kopt) vga=somenumber google will tell you the different numbers for the various resolutions then sudo update-grub
[06:12] <VanessaE> when someone accesses /path/to/new/link they'll be looking at /path/to/original.
[06:12] <incandenza> there's also ntfs-3g, which is supposed to be full read/write (unlike fuse, which sometimes fails to create files, etc.)
[06:12] <gidim> Well, 30 minutes left on my Ubuntu torrent. :)
[06:13] <kidbuntu> Tamale: ubuntu is getting popular. thats why the servers are overloaded. even the backports
[06:13] <sloncho> ok, with breeze there is onlu unrar-free, which does not support ver. 3 rars. what are my options? i need it badly
[06:13] <yggdrasil> furrynemesis ,h3sp4wn gstreamer0.8-lame defenetly got it !!!! :)
[06:13] <shaka> ok thx h3sp4wn
[06:13] <Tamale> kidbuntu:  I just wish there was a good way to see HOW popular...  how's the counter project going?
[06:13] <frogzoo> medfly: #ubuntu regularly had 1000 peeps when dapper was released - that was june, & it's been steady 800+ since
[06:13] <Tamale> hmm
[06:13] <medfly> frogzoo, ok :-) are you reading my mind?
[06:13] <Vlet> Thanks VanessaE
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> yggdrasil: I think xine sounds better (at least with my soundcard)
[06:13] <dserban> VanessaE: Thanks, I'll try that.
[06:14] <GTX> Hello, I have setup a Counter Strike Source Server on Ubuntu, It's only getting 50 FPS and cannot go over, I know this is down to the kernel its using, does anyone know which one doesn't have such a limit?
[06:14] <VanessaE> good G-D...I'm used to seeing a couple dozen people at most on the channels I used to hang out on :)
[06:14] <yggdrasil> h3sp4wn.. you need that to get it to convert out..
[06:14] <gidim> My only general concerns in making the switch to Ubuntu was my ability to do all the things I do now: chat, web, that's easy, but playing certain games... that took a little longer to find. :)
[06:14] <GTX> Think its something to do with kernel clock or somehting
[06:14] <dserban> h3sp4wn: nothing will build unless I start binding mounts which I see as unecessary.
[06:14] <medfly> GTX, you said youre running the server, not the client.. ?
[06:14] <GTX> medfly, I am running server, Its the tickrate not FPS sorry
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> dserban: What is the problem with that ?
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> dserban: just bind /dev /sys /proc
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> dserban: build the kernel with make-kpkg
[06:16] <praxnar> hi all
[06:16] <dave__> hey how do I mount a usb disk from the terminal (pmount <something> /media/usbdisk) whats the something?
[06:16] <praxnar> can someone help me with a video card driver?
[06:16] <Tamale> what's the problem praxnar
[06:16] <medfly> dave__, mount -t msdos /dev/sda /media/usbdisk (or another location). i dont know whats with pmount.
[06:16] <dserban> h3sp4wn: I just don't see the point as I'm just missing my /dev tree
[06:16] <h3sp4wn> dserban: If you want to build your own kernel (against the ubuntu toolchain) anything other than make-kpkg will cause you problems
[06:17] <dave__> ok
[06:17] <gidim> I gotta go find a CD to burn to.
[06:17] <dserban> h3sp4wn: I don't want to build the kernel ;)
[06:17] <praxnar> i have an older Toshiba laptop, with a S3 Virge/MX card, and my display is set to 480X600 and that is all i get :(
[06:17] <incandenza> at this point, ntfs-fuse is actually safe, IMO...  it's just that it refuses to perform certain operations in a semi-random fashion
[06:17] <dave__> pmount works better lol
[06:17] <dave__> pmount is for removable media
[06:17] <dave__> (i think)
[06:17] <Tamale> oof... i'm not sure there.  have you googled   "linux s3 virge"    yet ?
[06:18] <Tamale> you might not find ubuntu-specific help for your card.
[06:18] <praxnar> yes, but cant seem to find one
[06:18] <praxnar> so what do i do?
[06:18] <Tamale> dave_:  Is a flash drive technically removable media?
[06:19] <dave__> Tamale <good question> I have no idea
[06:19] <yggdrasil> ok now ... i need a wma to mp3,ogg converter ? anyone got a clue on that ?
[06:19] <Tamale> i think removable is for a drive which can have the media taken out, like a cd drive or floppy drive
[06:20] <incandenza> Tamale: a flash drive is considered removable
[06:20] <h3sp4wn> dserban: I don't understand what you are attempting to do
[06:20] <dave__> damn nvidia I hoped my xorg on the usb disk would work... still xserver error
[06:20] <Tamale> incandenza:  Really?  interesting.
[06:21] <longwave> pmount is a wrapper around mount that means you don't have to use sudo or edit your /etc/fstab all the time
[06:21] <dserban> h3sp4wn: I'm trying to boot my machiene.
[06:21] <incandenza> Tamale: yeah, it's designed to be plugged in and unplugged on the fly, so...
[06:21] <sloncho> there was a wrapper package which include refs to all needed for compiling stuff. what was the name?
[06:21] <sloncho> in breeze
[06:21] <longwave> sloncho: build-essential
[06:21] <h3sp4wn> dserban: with which kernel ?
[06:21] <medfly> if i use amd64, will forcing dpkg to install a i386 package work? :-)
[06:21] <tich> has anyone had problems suspending (to ram or disk)? my computer pops up a warning: suspend2ram failed on uploading 'usb_storage' (and i don't even have a usb storage connected right now)
[06:21] <h3sp4wn> medfly: no
[06:22] <Tamale> incandenza:  doesn't that just make it hot-plugable ?  not removable?
[06:22] <dserban> h3sp4wn: it has a kernel, it just panics that devfs is missing, which I've found out to be missing /dev/console
[06:22] <yggdrasil> ?? wmv
[06:22] <yggdrasil> ?? wma
[06:22] <[Yoni] > Hi all
[06:22] <dave__> what !?!?! error in locking authority file?
[06:22] <longwave> Tamale: hot-pluggable and removable are the same thing, surely?
[06:22] <dave__> man this problem is just getting worse
[06:22] <Tamale> longwave:  I honestly didn't think so
[06:22] <sloncho> longwave: thanks
[06:22] <h3sp4wn> dserban: built yourself or linux-image-2.6.15 ?
[06:22] <incandenza> Tamale: well, not according to the terminology of the pmount man page, anyway
[06:22] <longwave> Tamale: the only non-removable devices are things like hard disks that can't be switched out after booting
[06:22] <Tamale> cool
[06:22] <Tamale> well i'm really just learning all this, so i could be wrong
[06:23] <yggdrasil> whats the website for realplayer flash and all that other stuff ?
[06:23] <[Yoni] > I've installed on my primary hard drive Ubuntu 6.06 with Grub & on my secondary H.D I installed Windows XP, where can I find a tut about setting Grub to give me Windows XP as boot option?
[06:23] <Tamale> i just figured you always have a "cdrom" device
[06:23] <longwave> !flash
[06:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:23] <incandenza> Tamale: it refers to "USB, FireWire, or MMC devices" as removable
[06:23] <Tamale> sometimes it's just not mounted 'cause there's no media in it
[06:23] <viller> I tried installing e17 by this howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&page=15&highlight=enlightenment+howto
[06:23] <viller> but it's impossible
[06:23] <longwave> !grub > [Yoni]
[06:23] <viller> it says package has no available version
[06:23] <dserban> h3sp4wn: linux-image-2.6.17-1-amd64-k8-smp
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> dserban: On edgy ?
[06:24] <dave__> exit
[06:24] <[Yoni] > Thanks longwav :)
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> dserban: If so please join #ubuntu+1
[06:24] <yggdrasil> thanks
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> dserban: If not you need a newer udev / sysutils backported from edgy and to rebuild it against dapper
[06:24] <Tamale> so what is a device with no disk in it called?
[06:25] <Tamale> like an empty flash card reader?
[06:25] <gidim> w00t! Found a blank CD. :D
[06:25] <gidim> And it's even Ubuntu orange! :D
[06:25] <longwave> Tamale: that is just a device - the media is the bit you mount, so that's the removable part
[06:26] <Zambezi> Anybody know if I have to write something special to activate SSL when I try to connect to a FTP with gFTP?
[06:27] <Tamale> longwave:  So a USB flash drive is a device that ubuntu mounts the media automatically for, correct?  I guess this is what I was calling "Hot-pluggable"
[06:27] <r000t> someon here know how i change the size of the font in console
[06:27] <longwave> Tamale: yes
[06:27] <longwave> the flash drive and the media are the same thing in that case
[06:27] <longwave> ubuntu notices you plugged in a new usb device that contains some media, so it mounts that for you
[06:27] <Tamale> sweet...  cool.
[06:28] <borstalbreakout> i have a question, i read all the faqs but i'm a complet n00b when it comes to linux
[06:28] <Plouj> borstalbreakout: you didn't have to say that
[06:28] <longwave> !ask
[06:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:29] <borstalbreakout> i want to install ubuntu to the harddrive alongside windows, and be able to open ubuntu by booting from a cd that just tells the computer ot load ubuntu from the harddrive instead of running a live cd
[06:29] <frogzoo> r000t: ctrl - & ctrl +
[06:29] <borstalbreakout> i know there's a way to do it, but i don't know how.
[06:29] <longwave> why do you want to boot ubuntu from a cd? you can boot it from the hard drive directly
[06:29] <Tamale> grub can do that for your, borstal... you don't need a boot cd
[06:29] <HellDragon> brb
[06:29] <longwave> !dualboot
[06:29] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:30] <borstalbreakout> i want it to boot up windows whenever i turn the computer on, but have a special cd to load ubuntu from the harddrive when i want to use that
[06:30] <borstalbreakout> isnt that the only way to run them both?
[06:30] <Tamale> yeah
[06:30] <Tamale> that's exactly what grub can do
[06:30] <r000t> frogzoo: in the console after i do ctr-alt F1 for instance
[06:30] <incandenza> r000t: do you mean the actual text console (outside of X)?  if so, check the console-tools package
[06:30] <borstalbreakout> oh ok
[06:30] <Tamale> it's a boot loader
[06:30] <longwave> borstalbreakout: you can set grub so it boots windows by default, but still shows you a menu that lets you select ubuntu
[06:30] <r000t> incandenza: exactly
[06:30] <r000t> incandenza: ok thanks
[06:30] <k31th> god bless wifi
[06:30] <k31th> im taking a shit right now
[06:30] <borstalbreakout> alright
[06:31] <incandenza> r000t: pretty sure it's something in there, not sure of the exact command though
[06:31] <longwave> !language
[06:31] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:31] <r000t> incandenza: ill try it out thanks
[06:31] <Tamale> k31th:  Aren't you technically leaving something behind, not 'taking' something?  ;]
[06:31] <goonies> i need help installing my wusb54gv4 usb adapter on dapper, ive tried various howtos, one i came across uses ndiswrapper to load the windows driver, i did this the other day and ndiswrapper loaded the driver fine, i did a new install today and am following the same instructions but now ndiswrapper reports rt2500usb invalid driver =\
[06:31] <geekdom> I need a very light desktop and did a apt-get install desktop-xubuntu.      This is for a server and all I need is a very small and light window manager like twm and no extra apps.
[06:32] <goonies> anyone help would greatly be appreciated
[06:32] <k31th> Tamale: haha technically
[06:32] <goonies> any*
[06:33] <nikin> hy
[06:33] <longwave> geekdom: just uninstall the packages you don't want
[06:33] <nikin> just a question: is there a Wirless LAN adapter, PCMCIA or UBB what is out of the box supported by debian and redhat based distros?
[06:34] <goonies> this is very fustrating since i have to keep rebooting into windows to get help since on ubuntu im networkless
[06:34] <longwave> geekdom: it may remove xubuntu-desktop but that is only a metapackage that includes the standard xubuntu packages, it is not needed on its own
[06:34] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone know of a batch image converter (i.e. png -> jpg) with a GUI?
[06:34] <FunnyLookinHat> I'd rather not open everything up in GIMP and resave it, have tons of files
[06:34] <Graig> my package manager is not getting all the repositories. is there something wrong with it?
[06:34] <geekdom> There are a lot of packages.   Can I find and install twm for debian ?
[06:34] <geekdom> Where would I find that ?
[06:34] <longwave> FunnyLookinHat: the gimp has batch mode, but i believe you have to script it
[06:35] <optik_knight> anybody here?
[06:35] <longwave> geekdom: twm is available in the universe repository
[06:35] <longwave> geekdom: generally everything in debian is also in ubuntu somewhere
[06:35] <geekdom> OK, what is a universe repository
[06:35] <longwave> !repository
[06:35] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:35] <incandenza> r000t: ah, yeah, it's "consolechars -f <font>", and the fonts are in /usr/share/consolefonts
[06:35] <sotired> im installing ubuntu with xfce on an old dell laptop. I installed and i was unable to change my resolution fronm 540X480. I am re-installing from the live cd. i have the same problem when booting the live cd, unless i use "safe graphics mode", in which case my resolution is normal. Any fixes?
[06:36] <geekdom> How do you reply to me ?   the text is in red and it is reaally cool
[06:36] <r000t> incandenza: :D was just getting to that .. thanks man ..wanting to get rid of those horribly big things
[06:36] <geekdom> longwave:  is this highlighted ?
[06:36] <sotired> geekdom: by typing your name
[06:36] <longwave> geekdom: yes
[06:36] <longwave> most irc clients auto-highlight if your name is mentioned
[06:36] <Tamale> gaim must not
[06:37] <geekdom> geekdom:  this is a test to me :)
[06:37] <Tamale> how can you turn this on in game
[06:37] <geekdom> cool
[06:37] <geekdom> thanks
[06:37] <Tamale> i would like to see lines with my name in it highlighted
[06:37] <longwave> i don't use gaim for irc, sorry
[06:37] <optik_knight> I'm trying to mount my initrd, which I've already gunzip-ed, and mount wants me to specify a filesystem type... isn't it ext2?
[06:37] <Tamale> longwave, what do you recommend for irc
[06:37] <Krafturinn_> hi
[06:38] <Krafturinn_> i have mdf file i would like to mount in ubuntu
[06:38] <Krafturinn_> is this possible ?
[06:38] <longwave> Tamale: x-chat or irssi
[06:38] <rki> Krafturinn_, use mdf2iso
[06:38] <sotired> or Konversation in kde
[06:38] <Krafturinn_> rki : hold on
[06:38] <rellim> anyone had any luck with dual booting? i need to for work, so i repartitioned the drive and install windows on the empty space and now i can't seem to get my grub config right to be able to boot the windows partition.... any thoughts?
[06:39] <goonies> can someone download a file for me and then send it over, for some reason it keeps disconnecting for me
[06:39] <goonies> its a driver =\
[06:39] <longwave> rellim did you read the dualboot howto?
[06:39] <longwave> !dualboot
[06:39] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:40] <kidbuntu> how do i mount /dev/hdc1?
[06:40] <sotired> sudo mount /dev/hdc1
[06:40] <rellim> longwave: yeah, just talked about installing windows and then linux, i did it the other way around and for some reason grub won't pick up on the other partition and i know it works because i can get to it with a boot cd
[06:40] <rellim> boot disk*
[06:40] <h3sp4wn> rellim: see the windows example in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:40] <kidbuntu> sotired: it said /dev/hdc1 is not available in /etc/fstab?
[06:40] <longwave> rellim: you will have to add the section to menu.lst manually i guess, but it still should work
[06:40] <rellim> i did add it
[06:41] <rellim> i've just never had to deal with a dual boot, been linux only for years
[06:41] <Cyorxamp> I need to un-blacklist 'dmfe' (a NIC module) so my system stops automatically using 'tulip' which don't work... back in 2.4 kernel i'd have to edit the hotplug thing... this is using 2.6/udev now - how would I go about it?
[06:41] <incandenza> rellim: does it show up in the list when you boot?
[06:41] <rellim> yes
[06:41] <kidbuntu> longwave: what problems are you encountering?
[06:41] <rellim> incandenza: but it just won't boot, says i need a path to the kernel
[06:42] <sotired> im installing ubuntu with xfce on an old dell laptop. I installed and i was unable to change my resolution fronm 540X480. I am re-installing from the live cd. i have the same problem when booting the live cd, unless i use "safe graphics mode", in which case my resolution is normal. Any fixes?
[06:42] <kidbuntu> rellim: what problems are you encountering
[06:42] <longwave> kidbuntu: i think you got me mixed up with someone else, i'm not having any problems right now :)
[06:42] <incandenza> rellim: can you pastebin the section of your menu.lst that refers to windows?
[06:42] <kidbuntu> longwave. yeh sorry.
[06:42] <rellim> incandenza: yeah ... hold on
[06:42] <rellim> kidbuntu: claims i need a path to the kernel
[06:43] <kidbuntu> sotired. how do i mount /dev/hdc1 to media?
[06:44] <sotired> kidbuntu: sudo mount hdc1 /dev/hdc1/
[06:44] <sotired> its prolly just hdc
[06:44] <Cyorxamp> I need to un-blacklist 'dmfe' (a NIC module) so my system stops automatically using 'tulip' which don't work... back in 2.4 kernel i'd have to edit the hotplug thing... this is using 2.6/udev now - how would I go about it?
[06:44] <madville> help me pls. When i'm going to install linux my keyboard halts
[06:44] <TheGame> sup
[06:44] <kidbuntu> sotired how do i type it again to specify my filesystem. the filesystem is extended 3
[06:45] <TheGame> anybody know of a good msn client besides amsn
[06:46] <h3sp4wn> TheGame: centericq is pretty good
[06:46] <TheGame> what clients does it support
[06:46] <philipacamaniac> Is the dapper-updates totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin package broken for anyone else? Thought I'd ask before I mention it to the maintainer. totem-gstreamer was updated, but totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin wasn't, so it won't install with the new totem-gstreamer.
[06:46] <tich> are the repositories down?
[06:46] <rellim> incandenza, kidbuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19710
[06:47] <frogzoo> TheGame: I believe gaim does msn
[06:47] <TheGame> it does?
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> TheGame: ICQ2000, Yahoo!, AIM, IRC, MSN, Gadu-Gadu and Jabber
[06:47] <rellim> TheGame: yes, it does
[06:47] <frogzoo> tich: just slow
[06:47] <justifier> GAIM does do msn
[06:47] <TheGame> how do i set it up
[06:47] <kidbuntu> can someone give me a link on automounting a partitions
[06:48] <BobSongs> Gaim does do MSN.
[06:48] <Rookie-> fstab kidbuntu
[06:48] <longwave> !fstab
[06:48] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[06:48] <tich> frogzoo, i tried to install something but it timed out before it could even start.
[06:48] <TheGame> msn isnt under the plugins list in gaim
[06:48] <justifier> TheGame,  it doesn need to be
[06:48] <justifier> open accounts
[06:48] <Rookie-> hows the support for webbcam and gaim ?
[06:48] <TheGame> oh
[06:48] <incandenza> rellim: I think maybe you have to hide the first partition ("hide (hd0,0)") or so...  because windows wants to be on the first partition only
[06:49] <justifier> click add
[06:49] <incandenza> rellim: not totally sure, because I've never had it partitioned that way
[06:49] <tich> can anyone help me set up suspend?
[06:49] <TheGame> oh i got it\
[06:49] <TheGame> thanks
[06:49] <frogzoo> tich: you might like to try a different repo
[06:49] <kidbuntu> Rookie- how do i include /dev/hdc1 to fstab automatically
[06:49] <lostman> Hola, From Mexico
[06:49] <brent123> does anyone know of a good webcam that *just works* in ubuntu?
[06:49] <Rookie-> edit the file fstab
[06:49] <Rookie-> lays under /etc
[06:49] <Devec> hi
[06:49] <rellim> incandenza: ohhh ... ok, yeah ... i didn't want windows, but my boss told me i can develop on whatever i want, but if i am doing something cross platform i have to test on both so it was just kinda a last minute "oh shit, i need windows" thing, not at all planned out
[06:49] <lostman> there is a way to restart the task bars on Ubuntu??
[06:49] <brent123> and what's the best program for chatting with a webcam?
[06:50] <Rookie-> wondering the same brent123 .....
[06:50] <tich> frogzoo, i thought that there was one specific ubuntu repo. are there more? how do i find them?
[06:50] <kidbuntu> Rookie- theres nothing there for /dev/hdc1
[06:50] <longwave> kidbuntu: just add another line in the same format as the other ones
[06:50] <incandenza> rellim: yeah, check this out: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#DOS_002fWindows
[06:50] <brent123> Rookie: i tried kopete and aMSN, but they were really finicky with my no name webcam
[06:50] <BobSongs> Restart taskbars: Alt+F2 > xkill > click taskbar
[06:50] <incandenza> rellim: see the part about hiding partitions
[06:50] <Rookie-> you have a hdd named hdc1 ? but its not in the file fstab ? well, you might want to put it there ;)
[06:50] <frogzoo> tich: wget cc.ubuntu.com   where cc= a random country code
[06:51] <rellim> incandenza: ok, thanks
[06:51] <Tamale> lostman:  killall gnome-panel
[06:51] <frogzoo> tich: wget cc.archive.ubuntu.com   where cc= a random country code , or just ping come to think of it
[06:52] <tich> frogzoo, how/what do i ping?
[06:52] <TheGame> anybody know how i can fix the nvidia driver so i can use programs like limewire
[06:52] <Krafturinn_> damn
[06:52] <fdsd> does anyone know if holding down the Option key or C key on a intel mac will all me to boot a x86 ubuntu disk?
[06:52] <vdepizzol> can I install ubuntu without install grub?
[06:52] <Krafturinn_> i can't remember how to mount
[06:52] <TheGame> its the alt key i thought
[06:53] <Rookie-> Krafturinn_ - man mount
[06:53] <kidbuntu> rellim: where did the CD installer of ubuntu come from??
[06:53] <rellim> kidbuntu: huh?
[06:53] <Rookie-> best command in linux is man and apropos
[06:53] <fdsd> TheGame, im just wondering if it will boot with no issues
[06:53] <Tamale> vdepizzol: you have to install SOME boot loader
[06:53] <Tamale> vdepizzol: either grub or lilo
[06:53] <kidbuntu> rellim: what are you trying to do?  do you have 2 OS on your computer?
[06:53] <vdepizzol> Tamale: I want to boot from floppy
[06:54] <TheGame> why dont u use the mac ubuntu cd
[06:54] <incandenza> vdepizzol: if you use the alternative install CD I think you can do that
[06:54] <rellim> kidbuntu: nothing ... incandenza helped me, thanks though :)
[06:54] <Tamale> vdepizzol: why are you wanting to boot from a floppy?  you could put grub on the floppy.
[06:54] <kidbuntu> rellim: ok thats good
[06:55] <incandenza> er, alternate install CD, I mean
[06:55] <vdepizzol> Tamale: I already have putted grub on the floppy, so I don't want to install ubuntu with grub
[06:55] <TheGame> u dont need grub to install ubuntu
[06:55] <PMantis> I'm running Dapper on my HP laptop... With kernels 2.6.15-24-686 or 2.6.15-25-686 it is *really* slow. animations on webpages never play unless I wiggle the mouse. With 2.6.15-23-686, all is great. Any chance that 2.6.15-26-686 addresses this?
[06:55] <isabelgc> hola
[06:55] <isabelgc> q tal
[06:56] <vdepizzol> isabelgc: hi. Talk spanish in #ubuntu-es
[06:56] <isabelgc> jejeejejejejjeejejejeej
[06:56] <B1zz> 0_o
[06:56] <Tamale> o_O
[06:56] <incandenza> PMantis: I think so-- make sure you have 2.6.16-26.46 (the newest one that just came out yesterday), it has some fixes related to that
[06:57] <vdepizzol> Tamale: so I can't install ubuntu without grub?
[06:57] <incandenza> PMantis: 2.6.15-26.46, I mean
[06:57] <TheGame> vdepizzol: yes you can
[06:57] <lostman> Tamale: Thanks, Works prety fine
[06:57] <TheGame> but i think youll need a floppy to put grub on so u can boot into it
[06:58] <gidim> Yay! Torrent done! :D
[06:58] <vdepizzol> TheGame: I already have a floopy-grub.
[06:58] <TheGame> so then use it
[06:58] <vdepizzol> But how i don't install grub when I install ubuntu?
[06:58] <Krafturinn_> i was trying to convert mdf file to iso using mdf2iso ... UNL-FWC06.mdf is already ISO9660. can I mount the file then ?
[06:58] <TheGame> oh
[06:58] <incandenza> PMantis: I had similar problems on my notebook, and it seemed to get better with that kernel
[06:59] <TheGame> can u not tell it to not install
[06:59] <Paddy_EIRE> !easyubuntu
[06:59] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:59] <incandenza> vdepizzol: use the alternate install CD and it will give you a choice
[06:59] <brent123> hey is there a way to upgrade to the edgy eft knot 1 from dapper drake?  would it be correct to just change every instance of "dapper" to "edgy" in my sources.list and just do a "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[06:59] <TheGame> brent why do  u want to try edgy
[07:00] <brent123> to file bugs
[07:00] <vdepizzol> I don't have the alternate cd :(
[07:00] <brent123> early on in development
[07:00] <incandenza> vdepizzol: you can download it...  same place as the regular one
[07:00] <PMantis> incandenza, I'm running apt-get now, and it's getting 2.6.15-26-686 now...
[07:00] <longwave> brent123: join #ubuntu+1 for better help with edgy questions
[07:00] <drnick> brent123 the 2nd would be dist-upgrade, but it will go to the most current version, maybe not necessarily knot 1
[07:00] <brent123> ahh gotcha
[07:00] <brent123> thats exactly what i want
[07:00] <vdepizzol> incadenza, my internet conection is really bad
[07:00] <brent123> thanks
[07:01] <ubuntuuuuu> does breezy badger still ship?
[07:01] <ompaul> ubuntuuuuu, you can download it if you want it
[07:01] <ubuntuuuuu> shoot
[07:01] <longwave> why you would want it when dapper is out is a good question though :)
[07:01] <ubuntuuuuu> that would take me 3 days...
[07:01] <posu> Hi everyone
[07:01] <ompaul> ubuntuuuuu, dapper is what you can get from shipit
[07:01] <posu> how to install ubuntu to a PC without cdrom?
[07:01] <ubuntuuuuu> dapper dosn't like my laptop
[07:02] <drnick> posu, do you have windows curently?
[07:02] <Dimensions> how do i configure my Wlan adaptar
[07:02] <posu> is there a way to make a bootable usb?
[07:02] <longwave> then in all likelihood, breezy won't either
[07:02] <posu> drnick, nope
[07:02] <maddler> anyone using vmware on dapper (64bit)?
[07:02] <maddler> vmware client basically...
[07:02] <vdepizzol> posu, download the .iso and mount it
[07:02] <ompaul> ubuntuuuuu, try this, press F6 (if I have it right for extra options) then type vga=771 at the ned of the command line that may help
[07:02] <PMantis> maddler, ok, is that "VMWare Player" or "VMWare Workstation"?
[07:02] <ubuntuuuuu> every time I go to Install dapper It gets to the time zone section and hangs
[07:02] <FurryNemesis> !vmware
[07:02] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[07:03] <incandenza> vdepizzol: dunno, maybe the shipit people will send you the alternate if you make a special request...  not sure
[07:03] <posu> vdepizzol, mount where?
[07:03] <longwave> ubuntuuuuu: what laptop? have you looked at the laptop testing pages?
[07:03] <ompaul> !bootoptions > ubuntuuuuu
[07:03] <maddler> PMantis: I need to use vmware-server-console
[07:03] <ompaul> ubuntuuuuu, read that page I just have ubotu sent you as a message
[07:03] <VanessaE> bbl, storms moving in..
[07:03] <maddler> it was working until yesterday's update...
[07:03] <ubuntuuuuu> longwave, dell inspiron 1100 and no
[07:03] <maddler> and since then I have rectangles instead of text...
[07:03] <PMantis> maddler, Ok, ok. I havve it working on my laptop, but that's not 64 bit
[07:04] <PMantis> VMWare player, however... is being a big PITA
[07:04] <PMantis> Only runs with 2.6.15-23
[07:04] <maddler> PMantis: eh... the stangest thing is that if it is invoked from firefox (mui) text looks ok, but Images in menus and dialogs are not shown...
[07:04] <PMantis> Perhaps it'll run with -26 .. ?
[07:05] <ubuntuuuuu> longwave, what laptop test pages?
[07:05] <drnick> post, look here for floppy install
[07:05] <longwave> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron1100
[07:05] <drnick> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[07:06] <longwave> ubuntuuuuu: that suggests breezy worked on an 1100, so dapper should too, but maybe try the alternate install cd
[07:06] <vmlemon> When is Ubuntu Edgy Eft coming out?
[07:06] <incandenza> vmlemon: october
[07:06] <ubuntuuuuu> longwave, I had only one cd shipped to me
[07:06] <ubuntuuuuu> and that was the livecd
[07:06] <subpar> my ubuntu keeps freezing up, and I can't find anything about it in the kernel log or the xorg log, any suggestions to where else to look?
[07:06] <vmlemon> incandenza: Thanks
[07:06] <Tamale> will edgy offer a lot of improvements over dapper?
[07:08] <longwave> Tamale: some of the improvements are noted in launchpad: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+specs
[07:08] <TheGame> any1 know of a good ubuntu wallpaper site
[07:10] <ardchoille> TheGame:  http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/  ?
[07:11] <iloadmin> anybody has setup kiosk mode
[07:11] <TheGame> i guess thatll wokr
[07:11] <ardchoille> TheGame: You can find lots of ubuntu stuff at  http://gnome-look.org too
[07:12] <gidim> Alrighty, got bao0995, writing to CD. :)
[07:12] <subpar> I usually just browse the deviantart gallery
[07:12] <gidim> I hope this works.
[07:12] <budluva> is anyone aware of a good bittorrent client? something thats light like uTorrent?
[07:12] <fdsd> god I love making bash scripts that make my job easier
[07:13] <ardchoille> fdsd: :)
[07:13] <gidim> Speaking of DeviantArt: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28020114/
[07:13] <gidim> I love that one.
[07:14] <fdsd> darosan!
[07:14] <fdsd> lol
[07:14] <subpar> my ubuntu keeps freezing, and I can't figure out why
[07:14] <fdsd> subpar, hmm, do hdparm -t /dev/hda
[07:14] <fdsd> subpar, as root
[07:15] <geekdom> What does this mean :
[07:15] <geekdom> This module can be found as the module 'app/twm' at :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/xorg
[07:15] <geekdom> How do I get the file and is it a .deb. rolled up and ready to go ?
[07:16] <subpar> Timing buffered disk reads:  184 MB in  3.00 seconds =  61.33 MB/sec
[07:16] <kernco> Has anyone had problems with sound lagging behind?  I've noticed that the sound is maybe a second or so behind the video on YouTube, and also when I'm playing games like Chromium.
[07:16] <subpar> is what it returns
[07:16] <fdsd> subpar, okay that is good
[07:16] <fdsd> subpar, what freezes?
[07:16] <subpar> the whole system
[07:16] <fdsd> subpar, can you ssh in or anything like that?
[07:16] <subpar> I'll have to press the reset button on the box
[07:16] <fdsd> subpar, does the mouse lock up or does it still move when it freezes?
[07:16] <subpar> I haven't tried, I don't have another box to try it from
[07:16] <incandenza> geekdom: that's a CVS source repository...  lets you pull down development source code
[07:17] <subpar> it locks, I have the system moniter going, and it freezes too
[07:17] <geekdom> Can I get to it from a browser ?
[07:17] <subpar> if any media is playing, it'll just repeat a half second
[07:17] <fdsd> subpar, so no movement in the mouse?
[07:17] <subpar> correct
[07:17] <longwave> geekdom: you will have to use the cvs client
[07:17] <fdsd> subpar, if that is so the hardware is most likely at fault
[07:17] <subpar> hmm
[07:17] <geekdom> OK.
[07:17] <nicnacs> I have 6 P500, 192MB of RAM 10GB hdd. Thinking of putting ubuntu on them to donate to a homeless shelter. Having trouble finding whether or not the memory is going to be an issue?
[07:17] <fdsd> subpar, check memory, check cpu, check cooling..
[07:17] <subpar> it never freezes in windows
[07:17] <subpar> right
[07:18] <fdsd> subpar, well windows isnt optimized for your machine like ubuntu is
[07:18] <subpar> hehe
[07:18] <justifier> nicnacs,  it should be fine
[07:18] <incandenza> geekdom: it looks like you can browse the source from the web...  but I doubt that's what you want
[07:18] <longwave> nicnacs: 192mb is supposed to be enough to install though gnome might be a bit slow, it may be worth running xubuntu instead
[07:18] <subpar> I'll do a memtest next time I reboot
[07:18] <kernco> nicnacs, what are you going to be using these machines for?
[07:18] <fdsd> subpar, a different os can find faults in hardware
[07:18] <fdsd> subpar, good idea
[07:18] <geekdom> I was looking to install it :)
[07:18] <fdsd> subpar, also check dmesg
[07:18] <nicnacs> the tenants of the shelter will likely use them for internet browsing, emailing and perhaps resume/skills building?
[07:19] <fdsd> subpar, see if there is anything crazy going on
[07:19] <subpar> k
[07:19] <Ademan> hrm my video card won't output through svga to my big screen, i could do this on windows. interestingly enough it seems that it works fine untill X starts, do i need to add a monitor or something to my xconf?
[07:19] <fdsd> subpar, also if you can ctl + alt + backspace to kill X when it freezes it might not be hardware
[07:19] <incandenza> geekdom: is it twm, the window manager?
[07:19] <fdsd> subpar, what type of video card?
[07:19] <subpar> nvidia
[07:19] <subpar> and I have the glx installed
[07:19] <fdsd> subpar, are you using nvidia drivers?
[07:19] <subpar> right
[07:19] <fdsd> subpar, or nv?
[07:19] <subpar> nvidia
[07:19] <fdsd> subpar, does it happen with the nv drivers?
[07:20] <nicnacs> kernco: think that should work?
[07:20] <danblake> Does anyone know where can I change my boot sequence at the begining?
[07:20] <subpar> it didn't before I switched over, but it didn't start right after I switched
[07:20] <subpar> of course, I guess that really means nothing
[07:20] <fdsd> subpar, no extra machines around so you can check to see the problem with ssh?
[07:20] <kernco> nicnacs: it depends on what sort of programs you are going to be running.
[07:20] <subpar> no sir
[07:21] <fdsd> subpar, that sucks:)
[07:21] <frogzoo> danblake: /boot/grub/menu.lst - but most of the entries are auto-generated
[07:21] <subpar> yeah I know
[07:21] <subpar> I have extra misc. hardware laying around
[07:21] <danblake> thanks
[07:21] <fdsd> subpar, i have like 20 so I can normally pull stuff out of them or try to log in remotely
[07:21] <subpar> but not a complete system
[07:21] <subpar> lucky
[07:21] <subpar> I used to have three
[07:21] <subpar> but my laptop went out
[07:21] <subpar> and one was stolen
[07:21] <subpar> and the other died
[07:22] <fdsd> subpar, my machine has been up for 23 days since my last reboot, no freezing or anything.  But its been over 1 year since I installed this OS and I use it daily
[07:23] <subpar> well here's the other tricky part about it, it seems to usually do it only after I update using synaptic
[07:23] <subpar> and it'll freeze, reboot, freeze, reboot, then work fine
[07:23] <gidim> Alrighty, wrote fine. I'll be taking off now to install Ubuntu. Later all. :D
[07:23] <subpar> sometimes adding in another cycle
[07:24] <hadi57> Hi all, any body can help me install a .tgz file pls? i am new to linux
[07:25] <fdsd> subpar, werid
[07:25] <subpar> yeah
[07:25] <fdsd> weird
[07:25] <FurryNemesis> hadi57, use the archive manager
[07:25] <hadi57> where is that?
[07:25] <incandenza> hadi57: what are you trying to install?
[07:26] <FurryNemesis> that's a better question
[07:26] <subpar> well, I'lll grin and bear it for now, and keep looking for the problem
[07:26] <hadi57> a switch for my siemens laptop to activate wifi
[07:26] <Cicero> hello, does anyone around know why a normal crontab entry ist not executed ? I entered it with crontab -e and it should run ever 10 minutes. but it didnt worked. the entry in the crontab of my user is : */10 * * * * /usr/bin/fetchmail -akv -m "/usr/bin/procmail -d %T"
[07:27] <hadi57> my wifi is acitvated by software switch
[07:27] <fh|killy> could anybody advise me with setting up TV-out with XGL with geforce7800gt? nvtv doesn't detect a support device, and I can't find good documentation for an alternative method
[07:27] <Cicero> any idas ?
[07:28] <ardchoille> Cicero: The */10 part of the crontab is wrong.
[07:28] <ardchoille> !cron > Cicero
[07:28] <Mdog> hey everybody.  "apt-get install rrdtool" says "no installation candidate"....any suggestions?
[07:29] <Cicero> ardchoille: thanks for your help
[07:29] <incandenza> Cicero: I think */10 is the wrong syntax
[07:29] <ardchoille> Cicero: You're welcome
[07:29] <goonies> can someone help me install this driver please, http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[07:29] <Paddy_EIRE> Hey Guys installing ubuntu 6.06 LTS with livecd and screen res is 640x480, I cannot see the bottom half of the windows inorder to install (click next and the like) need another way
[07:30] <goonies> where does ubuntu place modules =\
[07:30] <ardchoille> Paddy_EIRE: ALT+left click and drag the window around so you can see the other portions
[07:30] <susanne2256> can i run msn??? if i have linux? and hov???
[07:30] <subpar> fdsd: actually, I think I found the problem
[07:31] <subpar> it was doing fine until i started azureus
[07:31] <Paddy_EIRE> ardchoille doh, i never thought of that one now : P
[07:32] <hadi57> what is a good archiving manager?
[07:32] <ardchoille> Paddy_EIRE: :)
[07:32] <mp3guy> what user/pass does I use for CUPS admin stuff?
[07:32] <Paddy_EIRE> ardchoille cheers mate
[07:32] <syntaxx> susanne2256: install gaim
[07:32] <incandenza> Cicero: hmm, never mind, I think that's OK
[07:33] <subpar> hadi57: ubuntu has one called synaptic
[07:33] <Cicero> ardchoille: uhmmm are you sure about that ? cause at the ubuntu wiki and serveral other sites it is written differently ? or are there different versions of cron ?
[07:33] <subpar> err I read package manager for some reaosn
[07:33] <Mdog> does anybody here use rrdtool?
[07:34] <goonies> =*(
[07:34] <harisund> Hello .. do people here use info along with man? A lot of commands the man page says "see info page for more documentation" but the info and man page both show the same thing? Do I have to install the info package on ubuntu?
[07:34] <ardchoille> Cicero: Yes, I'm sure that "/" isn't allowed in the time sections of a crontab
[07:34] <abhinay> how to integrate Rythembox with nautilus ?
[07:34] <incandenza> ardchoille: actually it is, I just checked...  (although I had never seen that before)
[07:34] <hadi57> how to use synaptic to install a .tgz file?
[07:35] <Cicero> ardchoille: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto what about that ?
[07:35] <Cicero> ardchoille: btw. thats where i "stole" my information :)
[07:35] <harisund> hadi67 a .tgz file is a source file. You will have to probably compile it. What package is that anyway?