[05:31] <ubuntoonoob> aah, scunizi , the second drive isn't mounted, yet
[05:31] <Evanlec> webmaster position at a small computer sales place
[05:31] <MasterShrek> =P
[05:31] <Evanlec> lol
[05:31] <ubuntoonoob> shall i mount it and do "mount" again ?
[05:31] <MasterShrek> cool
[05:32] <sipior> ^brandon^: i take it this card is plugged into a cable modem or so?
[05:32] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: that's ok..
[05:32] <Evanlec> yea, interview went well but...
[05:32] <ubuntoonoob> ok, then I'll just do blkid
[05:32] <Evanlec> at the end he told me the pay-rate ... i was not impressed
[05:32] <urthmover> sometimes I just watch iptraf like the matrix
[05:32] <cberlo> Hi folks.  Anyone know if the profile editor sabayon works properly in either Feisty or Gutsy?
[05:32] <ferronica> i have one .iso image in ubuntu 7.04 gnone, now i wanna to add some file in it is it possible to do it if yes how ?
[05:32] <^brandon^> sipior yeah its plugged into the cable modem, in that paste the modem was plugged into eth0, nothing was plugged into eth1
[05:32] <ubuntoonoob> Scuzini: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40397/
[05:33] <Innomen> !audio
[05:33] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:33] <MasterShrek> ferronica, apparently there is, i wouldnt have any idea how to though
[05:33] <Innomen> !players
[05:33] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[05:33] <sipior> ^brandon^: might try looking at your cable modem logs, if you can get to them. does the link work under windows?
[05:33] <Evanlec> ferronica, u should be able to open up that iso in archive manager and extract it, then add ur file(s) and repackage it as an iso (the latter part im not sure on, give it a search probly easy)
[05:33] <KlrSpz> CyberAway: yeah i realize that, just not sure what daemon to go with
[05:33] <MasterShrek> ^brandon^, have you cycled the power on you cable modem?
[05:33] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok.. try mounting the drive and doing blkid again.. I only see 2 partitions on one drive..
[05:34] <belgarath_> Hi!   is there a way to list all the packages i've installed on my ubuntu-pc?   I want to clone it to my laptop.
[05:34] <dgjones> !cloning | belgarath_
[05:34] <ubotu> belgarath_: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[05:34] <lee__> ok better qyestion, if i have a 64 bit machine how do i upgrade online to the 64 bit version of any thing?
[05:34] <MasterShrek> belgarath_, i think synaptic can export the package lists also
[05:34] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, what do u do just curious
[05:34] <ferronica> Evanlec: i did , but when i copy file and paste option is dim :(
[05:34] <sipior> ^brandon^: yeah, that's a good point. if you've switched cards, some modems get confused by the new MAC
[05:34] <lee__> eh either festy or gutasy?
[05:34] <^brandon^> sipior : as far as whether or not DHCP server is listening?  I have no idea as i dont know much about this stuff, i dont this its a prob with the modem as i am using the same cable right now, just switching it back and forth from computer to computer when needed
[05:34] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, nothing, im going to college :)
[05:34] <belgarath_> wow ... thanks!  (try to do that with windows)   :)
[05:35] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, nice
[05:35] <Hypergraphe> i've some problems with gutsy. Actualy on my laptop when i try to use my headphone output, it works but without disabling the main output .. I try many things but it doesn't work. Any idea ?
[05:35] <sipior> ^brandon^: ah, then try MasterShrek's suggestion. bet your modem is confused by the changed card
[05:35] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi : blkid shows the same, but mount now has another line ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40398/ )
[05:35] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, computer engineering...tough major
[05:35] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, ooh yea i bet
[05:36] <^brandon^> sipior : sorry I missed MasterShrek's suggestion and I cant seem to find it
[05:36] <lee__> MasterShrek, is there a commandin line in the up date that can allow you to up date to a 64 bit version of either feisty or gutsy?
[05:36] <sipior> ^brandon^: power cycle your cable modem
[05:36] <MasterShrek> lee__, its the same as 32 bit
[05:36] <MasterShrek> ^brandon^, unplug it and wait like 30 seconds, then plug it back in
[05:36] <lee__> really?
[05:36] <lee__> wierd
[05:37] <MasterShrek> wait lee__ are you running 32 bit right now?
[05:37] <MasterShrek> and u want to upgrade to 64?
[05:37] <lee__> yes and i need 64 bit
[05:37] <MasterShrek> youre better off reinstalling
[05:37] <lee__> yes
[05:37] <^brandon^> alright, ill be right back!
[05:37] <lee__> and i am out disks lol
[05:37] <MasterShrek> :(
[05:37] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: what's weird is your drives are showing up as hd?? and not sd??.  My Feisty install shows all my drives as sd?? even though they are a mix of SATA and IDE.. no problem though.  Now we need to create a mount point for the drive.  Type sudo mkdir /media/hdb1
[05:37] <lee__> and money lol
[05:38] <MasterShrek> i just preordered my gutsy cds :)
[05:38] <jrib> lee__: why do you need 64bit?
[05:38] <Evanlec> lee__, shrek is right, u cant just "upgrade" to 64-bit , it wont work
[05:38] <MasterShrek> nobody NEEDS 64 bit
[05:38] <cberlo> lee__: There's a way to netboot ubuntu to install -- do you have another machine you could setup to do that?
[05:38] <lee__> because i have tatsed its power and i love it
[05:38] <lee__> i have a second hdd
[05:38] <Evanlec> from what i've read, it seems that 64-bit only gets taken advantage of in certain situations
[05:38] <lee__> i can swap
[05:39] <cberlo> Is 64-bit actually desktop-usable yet?  Web plugins, multimedia, etc.?
[05:39] <kuch3n> can i get help for the compiz-extra package here?
[05:39] <lee__> ahh ok
[05:39] <Evanlec> lee i'd say give it a shot, but you will need a 64-bit iso image
[05:39] <jrib> lee__: you realize there is no 64bit sun java plugin and flash?
[05:39] <kuch3n> want to install it but there is a error...
[05:39] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi , done. It asked for a password. I typed my userpw, was that correct ?
[05:39] <Evanlec> cberlo, there's ways to hack around just about every problem, the question is whether u want to spend the effort
[05:39] <lee__> yes i know
[05:39] <MasterShrek> cberlo, i use it for everything, multimedia is no issue, flash and java are the only things u really have to worry about, and they arent nearly as hard to install as they used to be
[05:39] <heguru> kuch3n: try #ubuntu-effects
[05:39] <wers> how do I set the compose key on gnome?
[05:39] <kuch3n> thx
[05:40] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: yes that's correct.  Are you also dual booting? It looks like your main install is on hdd1 instead of hda1
[05:40] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, ur runnin 64-bit?
[05:40] <cberlo> Evanlec: No, I want simple to use.  I'll stick with 32 until it's "plug and play" for 64-bit.  And then I'll enjoy the "free" upgrade.
[05:40] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, yep
[05:40] <MasterShrek> gutsy 64bit
[05:40] <HealthyElijah> how many of you are running vmware?
[05:40] <lee__> i have a 64 bit but it has one error in 1 file
[05:40] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, did u try the 32-bit first?
[05:40] <MasterShrek> not i HealthyElijah, qemu/kvm
[05:40] <sipior> wers: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layout Options
[05:40] <lee__> and it stos loading at 53 percent
[05:40] <Evanlec> HealthyElijah, Im running virtualbox ... similar thing
[05:40] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, ive used ubuntu since 4.10 (first release) so yea ive used 32 bit
[05:41] <Scunizi> HealthyElijah: I'm running vmware server.
[05:41] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, when/why did u decide to jump to 64?
[05:41] <Innomen> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2992&package_id=2933 <---<can this be made to work on ubuntu? (i have no idea how to compile, but am willing to learn)
[05:41] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, when i got a 64 bit processor :)
[05:41] <HealthyElijah> Scunizi: Are you happy with it?
[05:41] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi : I have no idea what dualbooting is, I think Ubuntu is only on hdd1
[05:41] <Scunizi> HealthyElijah: yes very..
[05:41] <wers> sipior, thanksi!
[05:41] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, lol...ive had one for a while, its an intel tho so its not displayed on the box everywhere
[05:41] <HealthyElijah> Scunizi: I am thinking of getting VMware for my home system
[05:41] <heaven> heguru: yes i did install UDF tools but where do i run it or how do i enable it?
[05:41] <lee__> eh i dc a hdd i don't dual boot
[05:42] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, but ive heard varying opinions about 64-bit ubuntu, some say dont bother, others say how could u not?!?
[05:42] <lee__> so how do i do this net thing?
[05:42] <Innomen> !compile
[05:42] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:42] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok.. please type gksudo gedit /etc/fstab and then copy and paste the contents to pastebin
[05:42] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, its personal preference, why wouldnt you though, get the most out of the hardware i guess
[05:42] <Scunizi> HealthyElijah: it works good..
[05:43] <MasterShrek> Innomen, sudo apt-get install build-essential   << this will install compilers and stuff for you
[05:43] <lee__> ok ok its an editing thing when working with vids
[05:43] <Innomen> MasterShrek: Thank you :)
[05:43] <heaven> !seen criosoft
[05:43] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, well besides the obvious issues (flash/java) whcih i know can be worked around, there's a lot of other more obscure things i think i'd run into, like Wine for instance, no 64-bit version rite?
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen criosoft - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <heguru> Innomen why do you want to use this software? it looks outdated
[05:43] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40400/
[05:43] <lee__> use one for editng and the other for what ever  use lol
[05:43] <heaven> heguru: yes i did install UDF tools but where do i run it or how do i enable it?
[05:44] <Innomen> heguru: it is the one and only thing that will play voc files, or so it seems
[05:44] <heguru> heaven: do you want to write to UDF or read?
[05:44] <heaven> read
[05:44] <umop-apsidn> anyone got a clue for me? i have a buncha iptables commands (rules), and i want them to run when the system boots. how do i do so?
[05:44] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, no 64 bit version of wine, but u can run the 32 bit, and if u think about it, u wouldnt want a 64 bit version of wine, because it would be like using x64 windows, which i dont know how good that is
[05:44] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok.. we need to find the uuid of hdb.  Try blkid /dev/hdb
[05:44] <MasterShrek> umop-apsidn, put the commands in: /etc/rc.local
[05:44] <heguru> Innomen: looks like mplayer can do that too
[05:44] <lee__> ohh yes there ios a 64 bit vwesion of wine...this i do know lol
[05:44] <Innomen> heguru: sox claims it will convert and play them but its command line and i'm just opposed to cli software, on principal
[05:45] <npnuf1> I just installed kubuntu 7.10 RC, it stuck at busy box and I used modprobe ide-generic +^D.  Now it is booted.  But the result is sluggish, high Disk Activity Desktop.
[05:45] <Innomen> heguru: let me test
[05:45] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, i see, so how hard is it to run 32-bit apps? or is it just a matter of simply running it in 32-bit mode...rather than trying to force it to 64...and theres no real problems?
[05:45] <npnuf1> What can I do to improve my system.
[05:45] <kuch3n> how can i force apt to overwrite existing files?
[05:45] <murlidhar> well there is an application called linkage that i have installed by compiling the source . Now when i start the the application nothing is visible to me except the windows
[05:45] <lee__> the cd ro i have at least boots up and i have seen it
[05:45] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, you run them just as you would any other program
[05:45] <heguru> heaven: cd /media/udf && sudo mount -t udf your.udf /media/udf
[05:45] <MasterShrek> kuch3n, i think it automatically does
[05:45] <heguru> heaven: correction: sudo cd /media/udf && sudo mount -t udf your.udf /media/udf
[05:45] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: doesn't do anything
[05:45] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, really? so any app that doesnt have 64-bit version will run in 32-bit mode no prob?
[05:46] <kuch3n> nope it doesnt, because the file is allready  written by an another package
[05:46] <MasterShrek> yes Evanlec, i have 32 bit firefox installed along with 64 bit, i used to use the 32 bit for flash and java before i had it set up in 64
[05:46] <lee__> well in the gutsy version there is a 64 bit version of wine.. i really seen it
[05:46] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok.. we'll try it the Dapper way.. hang on.
[05:46] <MasterShrek> lee__, its 32, its maybe in the repos for 64, but its 32 bit wine, there is no 64, im almost positive
[05:46] <Miles> how do i start ubuntu in text mode with no framebuffer or anything?
[05:47] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, and it worked fine? why do i keep hearing that 64-bit isnt "ready" for desktop use yet
[05:47] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: is the drive partitioned and formatted? What type of formatting?
[05:47] <geefinator> Anyone here familiar with ncpfs that could help me with something?
[05:47] <lee__> no the disk that I down loaded had it in it
[05:47] <MasterShrek> Miles, remove 'splash' from your kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:47] <jrib> Miles: there is
[05:47] <Miles> MasterShrek: from a live cd
[05:47] <lee__> it wasnt in to rpos..that I know for sure
[05:47] <Evanlec> Miles, disable gdm in your boot options, you will boot to a tty
[05:47] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, runs fine, just perfect :)
[05:47] <jrib> MasterShrek: there is
[05:47] <Miles> i'm trying to install
[05:47] <heguru> Miles: use the alternate cd
[05:47] <Miles> the machines doesn't have enough ram for x
[05:47] <morryer> Whats the ubuntu command for editing php.ini?
[05:47] <lee__> but your maybe right maybe it is a 32 and they are laoding it onto the system any ways
[05:47] <geefinator> Use the alternate cd Miles.
[05:48] <MasterShrek> Miles, you want ubuntu server then probably
[05:48] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: It should be formatted and partinioned to one ext3 partition (did it with GNOME Partition Editor)
[05:48] <Miles> MasterShrek: it'll start fine from the hard disk
[05:48] <heaven> heguru: sudo: cd: command not found
[05:48] <Miles> when it's installed
[05:48] <jrib> !wine > lee__ (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:48] <lee__> oooops
[05:48] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, bah...methinks i must do 64-bit, but just to make sure, when u have a 32bit app, what do u have to do specifically to run it in 32bit mode?
[05:48] <Miles> i just want to install from a sorta minimal environment
[05:48] <heguru> heaven: my bad its: mkdir /media/udf && sudo mount -t udf your.udf /media/udf
[05:48] <lee__> eh I just reaslised someting
[05:48] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok.. hang on. I'm going to add a line to your fstab and repaste it to paste bin.
[05:48] <heguru> heaven: add sudo before mkdir
[05:48] <murlidhar> well there is an application called linkage that i have installed by compiling the source . Now when i start the the application nothing is visible to me except the windows
[05:49] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, nothing, they just run
[05:49] <heguru> morryer: sudo nano /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[05:49] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, but you dont want to install a bunch of 32 bit apps, kinda defeats the purpose of running 64 bit os
[05:49] <Miles> is there a nox kernel param or something?
[05:49] <Miles> no?
[05:49] <kuch3n> nobody can help me???
[05:49] <lee__> Its kunbutu lol......ugggg its not ubuntu thats why the difference in look erg
[05:49] <morryer> heguru: Thanks, how do i restart apache 2?
[05:49] <geefinator> What was your question kuch3n?
[05:50] <heguru> morryer: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:50] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, well of course, anything that had 64bit version id use the 64...but i know not everything does
[05:50] <lee__> I thaught something looked off
[05:50] <morryer> heguru: Thanks :)
[05:50] <sipior> murlidhar: is it a java application, by any chance?
[05:50] <lee__> I must have clicked the wrong link for an iso down load
[05:50] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, yea, but you shouldnt have problems loading 32 bit apps in 64
[05:50] <kuch3n> i want to install the package "compiz-extra" while installing there comes the error that a file is allready written by an another package
[05:50] <murlidhar> sipior: no it based gtk++
[05:50] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, interesting, and u were able to hack the flash/java plugins to ur 64bit firefox?
[05:51] <heaven> !seen criosoft
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen criosoft - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <geefinator> lee__:  if you want you can install ubuntu-desktop and get rid of KDE
[05:51] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, yea they run fine
[05:51] <sipior> murlidhar: and no errors at compilation?
[05:51] <MasterShrek> !nspluginwrapper
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <geefinator> !ncpfs
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncpfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <lee__> hmm sure taht will work but how do I do that?
[05:51] <MasterShrek> !info nspluginwrapper
[05:51] <ubotu> Package nspluginwrapper does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:51] <murlidhar> sipior: sorry libgtkmm there were warnings
[05:51] <lee__> on the phone with my mom
[05:51] <geefinator> lee__: go to a command line and do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu desktop
[05:51] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, well ubotu doesnt apparently know about it, but its nspluginwrapper
[05:52] <kuch3n> no help for me there?
[05:52] <sipior> murlidhar: fix those, then :)
[05:52] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: just cut and paste the contents into your fstab file and save but leave the editor open. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40401/
[05:52] <Miles> can i not even disable the splash screen? o.o
[05:52] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, interesting, u running gutsy too?
[05:52] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, yes
[05:52] <geefinator> lee__ once you instal you can do sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop.
[05:52] <MasterShrek> !flash64
[05:52] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:52] <murlidhar> sipior: do i have to uninstall it first to fix them?
[05:52] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: done
[05:52] <geefinator> lee__: ah ubuntu desktop should have a hyphen, so ubuntu-desktop.
[05:53] <sipior> murlidhar: i don't know. probably rebuilding and reinstalling would be fine
[05:53] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok now unmount the drive
[05:53] <sipior> kuch3n: does removing the offending package not work?
[05:53] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: now type sudo mount -a
[05:53] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: wait
[05:54] <pjz> anyone know where/how I can get firefox 1.5 to install on my ubuntu box? ( I need it for some backcompat testing)
[05:54] <|dream> hey guys, just installed ubuntu. Internet isn't working. it's wireless. any thoughts?
[05:54] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: when I try to unmount the disk via the GUI it says "Cannot unmount disk. Disk is not mounted"
[05:54] <Scunizi> pjz, Dapper repos
[05:54] <geefinator> |dream: what version of ubuntu did you install?
[05:54] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: Any cmd to do this via the terminal? :P
[05:54] <|dream> geefinator, the beta one
[05:54] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, okay im going to grab the 64-bit gutsy image, last time i tried i couldnt boot to a gui with the 64 livecd so that kinda put me off the 64 thing
[05:54] <skyhook> hi, does anyone know how to set the default sound device?
[05:55] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok.. yep .. sudo mount -a.  for a 1st try.
[05:55] <geefinator> |dream: Ok,  does ubuntu even see your wireless card?
[05:55] <pjz> Scunizi: any way to make multiple firefox versions coexist on one machine?
[05:55] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, good luck :)
[05:55] <Scunizi> pjz, I don't know the answer to that one.
[05:55] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, but i have since upgraded my graphics card to nvidia, so im hoping things will be different
[05:55] <umop-apsidn> i have a buncha iptables commands (firewall rules), and i want them to run when the system boots. how do i do so?
[05:55] <Evanlec> pjz, definitely
[05:55] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: ok, now what?
[05:56] <pjz> Evanlec: how?
[05:56] <heguru> umop-apsidn: are you on dapper or feisty?
[05:56] <juaniv_a> put them then on the file rc.local
[05:56] <Evanlec> pjz, for example swiftfox will run alongside firefox no problem even tho its technically a seperate app
 sudo umount  [path of the mounted disk]
[05:56] <pjz> Evanlec: right, but I want to be able to run both firefox 2.x and also firefox 1.5
[05:56] <|dream> geefinator, i supopse it does. i type "iwlist" and it shows some stuff, and my chipset "broadcom"
[05:56] <murlidhar> well i did a make check the error show this  and what does this mean ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40402/
[05:56] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: lets see if we can look at the folder.. using the gui go to "places" then "computer" and see if you can locate the drive.
[05:56] <pjz> Evanlec: I suspect that if I just do like a --force-install of firefox it's going to downgrade me
[05:56] <Evanlec> pjz, well im not entirely sure, probly just have to configure it so that they're not installed to the same directories
[05:57] <heguru> umop-apsidn: just use the /usr/share/doc/iptables/examples/oldinitdscript
[05:57] <cit1> anyone sing irssi?
[05:57] <MasterShrek> pjz, install 2.x from the repos, and download 1.5 from mozilla.com
[05:57] <Scunizi> cit1 sometimes
[05:57] <cit1> (in terminal)
[05:57] <pjz> MasterShrek: I can't find where on mozilla.com to download it from :)
[05:57] <geefinator> |dream ah I think there are some issues with Broadcom and 7.10.  One second.
[05:57] <Evanlec> pjz, u dont wanna use apt-get then, download a .deb or maybe even source
[05:57] <pjz> Evanlec: yeah, I figured
[05:57] <cit1> Scunizi: do you use it in terminal?
[05:57] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know how to make the backgrounds of my windows translucent, like the effect terminal has????
[05:58] <CheeseGardener> As in, to make all my windows like that.
[05:58] <Scunizi> cit1: it's a terminal program,  it's also useful to use it with "screen"
[05:58] <umop-apsidn> juaniv_a: i don't think prvmsg is the place for helpful info, k? try explaining it in channel, maybe i won't auto-ignore you
[05:58] <heguru> !compiz | CheeseGardener: you will need compiz,
[05:58] <ubotu> CheeseGardener: you will need compiz,: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:58] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: Says I don't have permission
[05:58] <cit1> Scunizi: I am running with screen, very nice, although how to I connect to a channel on a different server while maintaining my connection in here?
[05:58] <murlidhar> MasterShrek: could u take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40402/
[05:58] <lee__> Ok I go it....I have to meet my mother..her "Windows " is broken
[05:58] <juaniv_a> ok
[05:58] <lee__> lol
[05:58] <Scunizi> cit1: not sure.. sorry.
[05:58] <|dream> geefinator, okay.
[05:59] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Hi all! Panic help needed! By some reason the keyboard shortcuts for Sound is gone, and the Sound title isnt expandable... i really want my multimedia linux pc to work as well as possible when the guests arrive in 30 minutes!!! (Im controlling it usin an ATI remote wonder)
[05:59] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok .. now in a terminal type chmod -R 777 /media/hdb1
[05:59] <geefinator> |dream:  could you pastebin your iwlist for me?
[05:59] <MasterShrek> pjz, i dunno, they must not have it on there anymore
[05:59] <murlidhar> MasterShrek: when i open the application only the window is visible . nothing inside is visible
[05:59] <|dream> geefinator, yes. one second please
[05:59] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: then try again.
[05:59] <lee__> I am going to try to talk her into getting linux..but I need to know can works be read in the text ? can it be translated?
[05:59] <juaniv_a> to put commands on boot, wirte on terminal sudo gedit /etc/rc.local and write your commands there
[05:59] <devasura> ubuntoonoob: do you have permission to use sudo??
[06:00] <MasterShrek> murlidhar, did u run ./configure ?
[06:00] <lee__> well Iam aout a here lol ttyl
[06:00] <ubuntoonoob>  Operation not permitted
[06:00] <ubuntoonoob> chmod: /media/hdb1/lost+found: Permission denied
[06:00] <murlidhar> MasterShrek: yes i was working fine
[06:00] <cit1> lee__: for the love of got keep that woman off linux
[06:00] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: sorry do the same thing again and preface it with sudo
[06:00] <MasterShrek> i dunno murlidhar
[06:01] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: done
[06:01] <geefinator> |dream: Strange, broadcom should be supported in 7.10...
[06:01] <murlidhar> MasterShrek: well ....... i am in a trouble
[06:01] <murlidhar> now
[06:01] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: now use the gui and see if you can open it.. If you can try dragging a small file to it as a write test.
[06:02] <tommygj> does anyone know if valve is going to make a linux-supported version of Steam?
[06:02] <|dream> geefinator, ubuntu is not recognizing my usb pen drive, i can't take the text file to show you >=(
[06:02] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, what do u think, 7.10-rc-alternate-amd64 or 7.10-rc-desktop-amd64 ?
[06:02] <ubuntoonoob> Sunizi: still no permission to open the damn disk
[06:02] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, id go desktop and if it doesnt work use the alternate
[06:02] <Pici> !gutsy
[06:02] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[06:02] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, i prefer alternate install but the desktop one will let me know initially about hardware support
[06:02] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: try a blkid again and see if it shows up.
[06:02] <geefinator> |dream hmm, ok.  So does it just have no internet connection when you try to use it?
[06:03] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, gotcha
[06:03] <|dream> geefinator, yes.
[06:03] <|dream> geefinator, youre correct
[06:03] <ubuntoonoob> scunizi: nope
[06:03] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: try a df -h
[06:03] <geefinator> |dream:  What is the actual full card name?
[06:04] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: paste the output of df -h
[06:04] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40403/
[06:04] <|dream> geefinator, one second, i just rebooted.
[06:04] <keito> is there a way to check your HDD's health (ie tell me how many bad sectors I have and if it's about to die) in ubuntu?
[06:04] <geefinator> |dream:  ok.
[06:04] <|dream> geefinator, also, it's a laptop if that makes a difference.
[06:05] <geefinator> |dream:  it shouldnt.
[06:05] <|dream> geefinator, and i have to boot using noapic, acpi=off
[06:05] <devasura> ubuntoonoob: can u also paste output of mount
[06:05] <Evanlec> !info testdisk
[06:05] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[06:05] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: how large is this drive .. 8 gigs?
[06:05] <Evanlec> !info testdisk | keito
[06:05] <ubotu> keito: please see above
[06:05] <igge> when I press the buttons on my touchpad it doesn't "stay pressed", I can't drag anything.. any ideas?
[06:05] <keito> !testdisk
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40404/
[06:05] <Evanlec> igge, your touchpad?
[06:06] <ubuntoonoob> yes, 8GB
[06:06] <DM|> Anyone have an easy prgram to get mouse buttons working?
[06:06] <CheeseGardener> heguru, I already have compiz, I'm on gutsy gibbon already.  So I have compiz fusion.  But I want to make the backgrounds of my windows translucent, with the text being clear.
[06:06] <geefinator> |dream:  ok, when you go to the Restricted Drivers Manager on your computer, is there anything in there for broadcom?
[06:06] <heguru> CheeseGardener: you cannot
[06:06] <Evanlec> DM|, u mean extra ones like side buttons? havent been able to get those working either
[06:06] <keito> Evanlec: cheers 4 the headsup
[06:06] <igge> Evanlec: yes, on my laptop... or actually the buttons below the touchpad
[06:06] <Evanlec> keito, np
[06:06] <heguru> CheeseGardener: you can make the whole window gradually transparent
[06:06] <DM|> Evanlec i had them working perfectly till gutsy borked my xorg
[06:06] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ya gotta use my nick in responses otherwise your answers get lost in the noise.. ok.. try sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1
[06:06] <TriGz_> Halp! i forgot my windows password :( cant remember the admin one either :'(!
[06:07] <DM|> Evanlec now i cant remember what i had as the xmodmap
[06:07] <igge> Evanlec: using the actual touchpad for pressing and dragging works fine, but not the buttons
[06:07] <heguru> !windows | TriGz_
[06:07] <ubotu> TriGz_: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:07] <Evanlec> igge, ohh i see, most of those touchpads are made by synaptics (not to be confused with the ubuntu package manager)
[06:07] <geefinator> TriGz_:  I don't think anyone can help you here...
[06:07] <TriGz_> Lol, true that heguru :P
[06:07] <Wuzi> hellu
[06:07] <CheeseGardener> heguru, I don't want to whole window transparent, only the background.  Like the effect terminal has, but for my IMs and text windows.
[06:07] <|dream> geefinator, yes, but i cannot enable it
[06:07] <Wuzi> anyone in here got any 1on1 action with the windows installer?
[06:07] <TriGz_> geefinator: i know, but i thought there might be a tech guru in here that might know :P
[06:07] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is already mounted on /media/hdb1
[06:07] <Evanlec> DM|, didnt make a backup of your xorg? u might check if there is a backup copy in the folder
[06:07] <|dream> geefinator, gives me a popup error
[06:07] <heguru> CheeseGardener: you cannot do that
[06:07] <keito> dpkg: failed to open package >>> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) --- sounds like the disk is already dead YIKES!!!
[06:07] <geefinator> |dream:  whats the error say?
[06:07] <igge> Evanlec: ok... so where can I start to look for a solution?
[06:08] <Evanlec> !touchpad | igge
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <|dream> "the software source for the package bcm43xx-fwcutter is not enabled
[06:08] <CheeseGardener> heguru, oh I thought there was a way... I thought I saw a desktop like that once.
[06:08] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: can I PM you?
[06:08] <devasura> ubuntoonoob: u want to un mount or read the disk?
[06:08] <Evanlec> igge, i'd say ubuntu forums search, look for someones xorg file u can look at
[06:08] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: I dunno, can you?
[06:08] <geefinator> |dream: ok, one second.
[06:08] <|dream> geefinator, i also see my nvidia driver here, which i also cannot enable
[06:08] <DM|> Evanlec i made many, but i was in between backups last time i fixed it : (
[06:08] <igge> Evanlec: ok.. will try that
[06:08] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: do you see a private channel that's opened?
[06:09] <amishninja> Anyone here have experience with using VMWare?
[06:09] <keito> Evanlec: is there any livedisc with that on?
[06:09] <geefinator> |dream:  Ok, have you enabled all of the repositories?
[06:09] <Evanlec> CheeseGardener, you're probably referring to compiz/fusion ...
[06:09] <keito> Evanlec: it won't install as dpkg fails to open package
[06:09] <heguru> Evanlec: no he's not :)
[06:09] <ubuntoonoob> scunizi: no i don't
[06:09] <Evanlec> keito, sudo apt-get install testdisk??
[06:09] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: are you using xchat?
[06:09] <keito> yep
[06:09] <keito> oh
[06:09] <amishninja> Compiz Fusion is so awesome
[06:09] <keito> deart
[06:09] <keito> dear
[06:10] <Evanlec> heguru, well thats the only way to get "true" transparency
[06:10] <|dream> geefinator, not sure i know how.
[06:10] <MasterShrek> amishninja, what about vmware?
[06:10] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: excactly
[06:10] <geefinator> |dream:  System -> Administration -> Software Sources I belive if you are using Gnome.
[06:10] <AoLara> good day
[06:10] <amishninja> Shrek: I'm just wondering how to emulate a second installation of Ubuntu using VMWare.
[06:10] <heguru> Evanlec: well he needs transparent background with contents intact in all applications
[06:10] <keito> Evanlec: thats what I did :0|
[06:10] <SirronTM> I know this is off topic... but are there any danish people here that know how to do an anonymous phone call there? ^^
[06:10] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: look in the box on the left or bottom that shows the channels that you're in.  You should see my nick listed.
[06:10] <|dream> geefinator, ok one second. its booting up
[06:11] <MasterShrek> and just for the record, compiz, compiz fusion, beryl, and all the derivatives, are pointless, wasted hardware resources for people to be like "ooh" and "aww" over an os that is already superior to anything that has cool little visual effects
[06:11] <Evanlec> heguru, yea i see, and so far only gnome-terminal wants to do that properly
[06:11] <Pici> !ot | SirronTM
[06:11] <ubotu> SirronTM: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:11] <amishninja> SirronTM: use IP-relay
[06:11] <Evanlec> keito, are u running off livecd? what was your error output
[06:11] <SirronTM> ok, cheers
[06:11] <geefinator> Agreed totally Mastershrek
[06:11] <keito> Evanlec: had to manually run a load of fsck's during boot time recently after system crashes.  plus my drive goes into read-only mode?!
[06:11] <keito> Evanlec: not a livecd
[06:11] <Gosha> How do I check what kind of RAM i have?
[06:11] <MasterShrek> amishninja, you just need an ubuntu iso or cd, and just load it in vmware, have you used vmware before?
[06:11] <keito> Evanlec: i wondered if there was a livecd with testdisk already on
[06:11] <stiev3> shot in the dark: where would I find the settings files for syntax highlighting in gedit?
[06:11] <Naitse> some one knows how to put a screensaver or a video as wallpapper?
[06:11] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: do you see it?
[06:12] <keito> Evanlec: I'm 99.9% sure my disk is f**k*d
[06:12] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, im gonna have to disagree somewhat with you on that, compizfusion while mostly eyecandy, DOES give added functionality and features for accessibility
[06:12] <|dream> geefinator, alright. i see a bunch of options here. check them all?
[06:12] <amishninja> Shrek: Compiz Fusion does have pointless visual effects, but I actually do find parts of it to be useful, so I disagree partly on that
[06:12] <pike_> stiev3: /etc? :) actually its prob in .gconf or soemthing
[06:12] <geefinator> |dream: yep.
[06:12] <ubuntoonoob> scunizi : no, but i opened one myself
[06:12] <amishninja> Shrek: yes but it was a long time ago
[06:12] <Evanlec> keito, im not sure about a livecd with testdisk already on it
[06:12] <Naitse> i read a lot of threads but does not work
[06:13] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: by clicking on my nick and choosing private chat or Dcc chat?
[06:13] <heguru> stiev3: /usr/share/gedit-2/taglist
[06:13] <geefinator> |dream:  After you do that it should tell you it needs to reload.  After it is done, see if you can enable the drivers.
[06:13] <MasterShrek> a wobbly window, or a desktop on a cube is not really useful, although cool to look at, its pointless
[06:13] <|dream> geefinator, yea i got that
[06:13] <keito> Evanlec: don't think I need the confirmation now as I'm resigned to the fact I need a new HDD & Power Supply
[06:13] <|dream> geefinator, but it also says i need an internet connectionf or that'
[06:14] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, there are a whole buncha other things tho, in particular the zoom plug-in, helpful for ppl with vision problems obviously, but also quite useful if im on my bed with wireless keyboard
[06:14] <geefinator> |dream ah crap, i forgot lol.  Is there any way you can wire it?
[06:14] <amishninja> MasterShrek: The cube desktop is awesome to look at; If you're gonna switch around you desktops you might as well have it set up like that if your computer can handle it. Eye of the beholder and all. Aside from that, the window scaling is useful.
[06:14] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: I am sorry to disappoint you, but I have to go now. Maybe I'll cu later, bye. And thanks for the help anyway
[06:14] <Evanlec> keito, you can test for bad sectors with any windows disk too i believe
[06:14] <MasterShrek> if u want visual effects use vista =P
[06:14] <Evanlec> keito, might also wanna try super grub disk
[06:14] <|dream> geefinator, i can try. give me a sec. gotta take it to where the router is
[06:14] <amishninja> Lol. Vista is behind both mac and linux in terms of visual effects, though.
[06:14] <geefinator> |dream:  Ok.
[06:14] <gustavonarea> Hi. Just a dump question: I have a 64-bit computer, but I don't want to face problems with a 64-bit distro (flash, among others)... So, may I install a 32-bit distro under a 64-bit computer?
[06:14] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: good luck.. :)
[06:15] <heguru> gustavonarea: you can do that
[06:15] <MasterShrek> gustavonarea, of course, it probably came with a 32 bit os on it
[06:15] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, vista's visual effects are SAD compared to compiz
[06:15] <remarK-> that vista comment made me giggle a bit.
[06:15] <amishninja>  /agree evanlec
[06:15] <devasura> gustavonarea: ya i installed 32 bit one
[06:15] <keito> Evanlec: I think its the power supply that is knackering these disk's as this is the 3rd one in 1 year (though one got sent back and returned which is probably the same one zero-filled and sent back to me)
[06:15] <gustavonarea> oh, okay, thank you, !
[06:15] <Stormx2> remarK-: Why? it's absolutely correct.
[06:15] <genii> Interesting. Dell Sales tells me they are going from 7.04 to 8.04 but here says different: http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/08/dell-preps-for-next-linux-desktop-release/
[06:15] <MasterShrek> yea i know Evanlec im just kinda trolling, but i still think compiz is not worth the hassle of having your xserver crash every couple hours
[06:15] <skyhook> hi, does anyone know how to set the default sound device?
[06:15] <remarK-> The part where vista is graphically better than mac and linux?
[06:15] <remarK-> that is correct?
[06:16] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, well some ppl have hard time with it, i did too with ATI card, i got an nvidia card and have had 0 problems
[06:16] <MasterShrek> not at all remarK-
[06:16] <amishninja> If your X server is crashing every couple of hours then that's a problem on your end...
[06:16] <keito> vista graphically better than linux LMAOROFL
[06:16] <remarK-> i didn't think so either.
[06:16] <Evanlec> remarK-, no way
[06:16] <|dream> geefinator, alright its downstairs. it worked for the Nvidia, but not broadcom
[06:16] <remarK-> which is why i giggled, a lot.
[06:16] <amishninja> I have a totally worthless vid card and it runs fine for me *shrug*
[06:16] <CheeseGardener> Evanlec, is compiz fusion able to make the window backgrounds transparent while keeping the text at 100% opacity?
[06:16] <keito> that is some funny shizzle
[06:16] <geefinator> |dream:  That is real strange.  You may need to get the driver from broadcom.  Other than that I am out of ideas.
[06:16] <keito> vista is like a stain on your pc
[06:17] <remarK-> ha.
[06:17] <Evanlec> CheeseGardener, i wanna say no, but there might be a way to do that, there's a LOT of plug-ins/options in it
[06:17] <keito> wipe and clean
[06:17] <nickrud> skyhook: asoundconf list to get a list, asoundconf set-default-card <card> to set
[06:17] <|dream> geefinator, alright. ill give it a shot. thanks for all the help! :)
[06:17] <MasterShrek> |dream, what kind of card is it?
[06:17] <geefinator> |dream:  you are welcome :)
[06:17] <MasterShrek> 43xx?
[06:17] <craig> www.chata-aussie.com :P
[06:17] <keito> !offtopic | craig
[06:17] <ubotu> craig: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:17] <tuxcrafter> how do i create a list of installed packages that are larger than 2 MB?
[06:17] <geefinator> MasterShrek, yeah thats the card he has.
[06:18] <Evanlec> heguru, it does have useful interface improvements, i'll admit i dont use em that much, but nevertheless they are not all just for effects
[06:18] <foug> is there a list of problems that are in 7.10 atm, unfixed ones?
[06:18] <MasterShrek> geefinator, how were u trying to set it up, sorry i wasnt paying attention, ndiswrapper?
[06:18] <MasterShrek> foug, not really, its more case-by-case i guess,but so far 7.10 seems very stable to me
[06:18] <heguru> Evanlec: if its usability vs stability/performance atm compiz sucks
[06:18] <skyhook> nickrud: thanks!
[06:18] <Evanlec> heguru, and really for eyecandy it blows Vista out of the water, which i think is impressive for an OS thats not designed for flashyness
[06:18] <geefinator> MasterShrek, well no, I was just seeing if he could use the restricted driver manager since he is using 7.10
[06:18] <MasterShrek> ah
[06:18] <remarK-> foug, you'll find more support/info in #ubuntu+1
[06:18] <|dream> MasterShrek, broadcom 4311
[06:19] <foug> MasterShrek: good to hear, i'm interesting in switching now :)
[06:19] <geefinator> MasterShrek,  I have never messed with ndiswrapper
[06:19] <foug> remarK-: ok thank you
[06:19] <keito> cheers guys, adios
[06:19] <remarK-> foug: no problem.
[06:19] <MasterShrek> |dream, thats the card i have, ill help u set it up
[06:19] <Evanlec> heguru, well i think it really depends on hardware/configuration/environment , for some people like me its pretty damn stable, for others not so much
[06:19] <|dream> MasterShrek, thank you so much
[06:20] <MasterShrek> |dream, http://www.mediafire.com/?bqn8x4eancv  get the file there and extract it to /lib/firmware
[06:20] <|dream> MasterShrek, not sure i have much time though, i have a job interview soon =(
[06:20] <MasterShrek> |dream, it will only take 3 minutes
[06:20] <MasterShrek> at most
[06:20] <heguru> Evanlec: if a software's stability differs from machine to machine then it is unstable :)
[06:20] <Evanlec> heguru, and as far as performance is concerned, i think its silly if you have a powerful 3d card that u only take advantage of when you're playing games, so in that way you're not losing performance because its hardware accelerated, your gfx card is doing most of the work
[06:20] <MasterShrek> if i was there id do it in 30 seconds lol
[06:20] <|dream> MasterShrek, alright. one problem though, ubuntu is not recognizing my usb pen drives when i insert the
[06:21] <Evanlec> heguru, okay well perhaps, im not as familiar with the term "unstable" but i guess that makes sense
[06:21] <stiev3> heguru: /usr/share/gedit-2/taglist has 4 foo.tags.gz collections, the gedit color settings are contained within?
[06:21] <MasterShrek> |dream, that could be something completely different, can u get online with ubuntu using wired?
[06:21] <|dream> MasterShrek, yes i know it's different, but its the only way i can trasnfer the driver over there. and yes, i can get online if i hook up the wire
[06:22] <heguru> stiev3: it contains tags and keywords that are highlighted
[06:22] <devasura> |dream: if you can post the o/p of dmesg
[06:22] <MasterShrek> |dream, hook up the wire, download that file and thats all youll need
[06:22] <MasterShrek> |dream, just change to the directory where u download that file then run: tar -xjvf bcm4311_firmware.tar.bz2 && sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware
[06:22] <AoLara> sorry exist in ubuntu a similar directory "/etc/X11/Xmodmap"
[06:22] <AoLara> i have problem to mapping a lcd crt switcher
[06:23] <INTit> :(
[06:23] <INTit> lost my usb
[06:23] <MasterShrek> AoLara, i made a file ~/.Xmodmap  and use xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
[06:23] <mrec> hi, kdb is included in the gutsy kernel isn't it?
[06:23] <Scunizi> !mp3
[06:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:24] <devasura> INTit: I lost mine too
[06:24] <devasura> INTit: cheer up
[06:24] <McTw1st> got a question about ubuntu and games i wonder if Stepmania runs under ubuntu and warcraft 3 frozen throne if they will even run under ubuntu and if i need wine?
[06:25] <MasterShrek> McTw1st, youll definately need wine, they should run
[06:25] <WJIRC-Test> course ya need wine
[06:25] <Baikonur> when you need wine, you should run
[06:26] <McTw1st> i know ther is another win emu program out there just dont remember what its called
[06:26] <MasterShrek> cedega
[06:26] <|dream> MasterRa, ok, extracted
[06:26] <McTw1st> thats it
[06:26] <WJIRC-Test> cedega is just a cheap rip off of wine
[06:26] <Chriswaterguy> I'm finding that Xubuntu is taking a lot of fiddling - a lot of things don't work without serious messing around. I'll do what I need to learn Linux, but if there's a smoother distro, I'll switch. QUESTION: Should I upgrade to Gutsy, switch to Ubuntu Gutsy (with Gnome), or switch to a different distro (OpenSuse sounds good). Suggestions?
[06:26] <MasterShrek> |dream, did u run the other command? sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware
[06:26] <|dream> devasura, i can, one second
[06:26] <MasterShrek> Chriswaterguy, kubuntu
[06:27] <|dream> MasterShrek, no i will now.
[06:27] <McTw1st> what would u chose if u want StepMania and WC3 To work? cedega or wine?
[06:27] <MasterShrek> |dream, then sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[06:27] <MasterShrek> McTw1st, cedega, but u have to pay for it, so i never use it lol
[06:27] <remarK-> Chriswaterguy: I found ubuntu (gnome) to be pretty intuitive. Maybe give that a go on the gutsy release?
[06:27] <AstroBlack> anyone know any good education resources for easily learning how to use ubuntu ?
[06:27] <|dream> MasterShrek, The extracted files are in a folder called broadcom inside the folder firmwae
[06:28] <WJIRC-Test> wine works fine for most games
[06:28] <MasterShrek> |dream, i dont think the can be, i have mine just in /lib/firmware
[06:28] <genii> Chriswaterguy: since underneath the window managers, the core parts are the same. If you have some issue on xubuntu (unrelated specifically to window manager) same issue will exist also on kubuntu or regular ubuntu (gnome)
[06:28] <TheRepacker> I've been running Gutsy since tribe 2, been very stable
[06:28] <abadtooth> Hey everyone
[06:28] <|dream> MasterShrek, all the files scattered inside that folder?
[06:28] <Chriswaterguy> remarK: intuitive for a geek...? a lot of what Linux people call easy is actually not clearly explained at all.
[06:28] <MasterShrek> |dream, yes, thats what i use, i dont know if they can be in a subfolder or not
[06:28] <BrianMH> Hi again.  Having problems.  Earlier tried to install on laptop and it froze at hardware install.  That was on my second hard disk.  Now I am trying again but the disk isn't showing up at all.
[06:28] <McTw1st> wine isnt that free? =)
[06:29] <MasterShrek> McTw1st, yes
[06:29] <WJIRC-Test> yes
[06:29] <McTw1st> everything thats free is fine by me :P
[06:29] <WJIRC-Test> almost all linux software is free
[06:29] <McTw1st> well in this internet era were living in everything is free in some way
[06:29] <remarK-> Christwaterguy: I wouldn't call myself a geek except for the area of gaming. I couldn't tell you anything really like these guys can. Just giving you a little tip that seemed to work for me.
[06:29] <AstroBlack> i mean easy - i'm a new user and am used to using Windows OS
[06:29] <Chriswaterguy> In Xubuntu, I've had stuff like Trash not working (and didn't find out till I deleted hundreds of photos accidentally due to a touchpad glitch - thankfully I have backups, though some are on a CD in another country)
[06:29] <|dream> MasterShrek, alright. another thing, inside the firmware folder, there was already a file named bcm43xx_microcode11.fw
[06:29] <heguru> McTw1st: wine is free, cedega is not, cedega is wine customized to run win32 games
[06:29] <MasterShrek> |dream, overwrite it
[06:30] <abadtooth> I have a question, I can't boot 7.10 off the cd without going into the shell and typing "sudo startx" but I want to install it... there doesn't appear to be an option to install anywhere. thanks.
[06:30] <AoLara> thank MasterShrek..
[06:30] <Chriswaterguy> remarK: okay thanks. I think you're right, Ubuntu is a bit more intuitive than Xubuntu.
[06:30] <MasterShrek> Chriswaterguy, ive never used xubuntu, but it seems a little too dumbed down
[06:30] <WJIRC-Test> cedega really isn't even much better anymore. as far as i know they have no progress on DX10 reproduction/etc
[06:30] <heguru> abadtooth: asking in #ubuntu+1
[06:30] <MasterShrek> AoLara, for what?
[06:30] <McTw1st> heguru so if u just extract the source code from cedega and rewrite wine ul get the same thing? ^^
[06:30] <heguru> *ask
[06:30] <abadtooth> heguru: okay. thanks.
[06:30] <amishninja> As far as user-friendliness in Linux goes, Ubuntu is up there.
[06:30] <WJIRC-Test> cedega isn't open source, far as i know
[06:30] <MasterShrek> cedega is not open source
[06:30] <McTw1st> ah
[06:30] <McTw1st> ok :)
[06:31] <remarK-> I mean, if dell users are trusted to use ubuntu, I'm sure it can't be THAT bad. :P
[06:31] <heguru> McTw1st: yes
[06:31] <BrianMH> any idea why my second hard disk is now missing when it showed up and I could install on it earlier?
[06:31] <amishninja> Hahaha
[06:31] <WJIRC-Test> lmao, exactly remarK
[06:31] <tag> anyone use TKIP with ubuntu?
[06:31] <negluf> Hi all, hola a todos.
[06:31] <|dream> MasterShrek, what does sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware do?
[06:31] <heguru> MasterShrek: cedega does publish modified wine that it uses
[06:31] <amishninja> Are you serious, Dell users using Ubuntu? I wouldn't go that far...
[06:31] <remarK-> Uh...
[06:31] <MasterShrek> |dream, it would move all of the extracted files to /lib/firmware
[06:31] <WJIRC-Test> dell.com
[06:31] <remarK-> it's being pre-loaded onto Dell comps as we speak.
[06:31] <WJIRC-Test> go "build" a new computer
[06:31] <amishninja> It is...?
[06:31] <AoLara> MasterShrek because on ubuntu-it i have not an answer
[06:31] <|dream> MasterShrek, ok theyre already there
[06:31] <remarK-> Yes sir.
[06:32] <amishninja> Well, I don't keep up on my Ubuntu geek news, sorry!
[06:32] <MasterShrek> |dream, now sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[06:32] <McTw1st> om testing the windows installer to see if it works any good
[06:32] <McTw1st> im*
[06:32] <|dream> MasterShrek, ok i did the modprobe
[06:32] <MasterShrek> |dream, did the led for your wifi card come on? if u have one?
[06:32] <remarK-> Hehe. No worries. My knowledge is extremely limited. I'm just a news junkie.
[06:32] <MasterShrek> |dream, type: sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[06:32] <|dream> MasterShrek, i don't know. its a laptop, it's internel
[06:32] <MasterShrek> that will scan for networks
[06:32] <MasterShrek> oh
[06:32] <MasterShrek> well, try that scan command |dream
[06:33] <amishninja> It's cool... I like calling people dumb and then telling them to open up a science book to look up something obscure that the average person shouldn't know
[06:33] <Chriswaterguy> MasterShrek: Is switching to Kubuntu likely to make much diff for stuff like the Trash glitches, and problems with sound and video often not working on my laptop?
[06:33] <amishninja> ... not really. but uh... yeah, that's cool.
[06:33] <stiev3> heguru, I see, so in order to alter my highlighting colors I'd have to overwrite these collections.  Is it common to find different templates in these formats on the net?
[06:33] <|dream> MasterShrek, says "no scan results"
[06:33] <Chriswaterguy> Or is genii right - basic probs will be the same?
[06:33] <MasterShrek> Chriswaterguy, im guessing yes, those seem like xfce problems, but i could be wrong
[06:34] <MasterShrek> |dream, you may need to reboot so it picks up on some things, but it should be workign after that
[06:34] <Chriswaterguy> MasterShrek: ok, including sound & vid?
[06:34] <negluf> Someone who can to say me a channel of help?
[06:34] <genii> Chriswaterguy: By underlying problems i mean things like hardware not setting up correctly etc.
[06:34] <heguru> stiev3: I guess so, never needed to add anything to it myself
[06:34] <MasterShrek> Chriswaterguy, well sound is run by artsd in kde, so it may work, it may not, its hard to say, depends on your hardware and software setup i guess
[06:34] <MasterShrek> negluf, help for what?
[06:34] <heguru> negluf: help with what?
[06:35] <twisties> !samba
[06:35] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:35] <|dream> MasterShrek, alright will try
[06:35] <negluf> i need to find a file in my ubuntu lol
[06:35] <Chriswaterguy> MasterShrek: I've got a Lenovo Thinkpad - which should be easy to setup with Linux.
[06:35] <MasterShrek> locate filename
[06:35] <heguru> negluf: locate filename
[06:35] <negluf> yes yes.. i dont know the filename
[06:35] <MasterShrek> negluf, then you are in trouble
[06:36] <negluf> is a personal certificate
[06:36] <PipHog> typical ubuntu problems
[06:36] <MasterShrek> Chriswaterguy, well i would give ubuntu or kubuntu a try, xubuntu is realy only for slow systems
[06:36] <negluf> thanks piphop
[06:36] <twisties> anyone have any idea why my windows workgroup "WORKGROUP" is not being seen in feisty?
[06:36] <MasterShrek> !tab | negluf
[06:36] <ubotu> negluf: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:36] <twisties> I want to access my shared folders
[06:36] <user934> How can i modify my screen resolution .. currently it only allows up to 1024x768
[06:36] <MasterShrek> !resolution
[06:36] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:36] <Chriswaterguy> MasterShrek: I liked the idea of super-speed, but I'm getting too many hassles :)
[06:37] <user934> I am looking for 1125x768 I think.
[06:37] <twisties> user934: what size monitor do you have?
[06:37] <user934> 15 inch LCD.
[06:37] <MasterShrek> Chriswaterguy, you can get good speed in ubuntu or kubuntu, you just have to know how :)
[06:37] <Chriswaterguy> genii: I guess that includes hardware not working consistently. Do you have suggestions for a distro that would give less hassles?
[06:37] <twisties> 1024x768 is the highest / native res
[06:37] <user934> no 17 inch actually ;-)
[06:37] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, u know a way to get xchat to bind a key to insert the nick of the last person u talked to? i know Konversation can do this
[06:37] <twisties> you can go any bigger
[06:37] <twisties> oh
[06:37] <xload> hello, my ubuntu resets after uncompress the kernel, con somebody help me???????????????
[06:37] <krabador> hi, people, someone can help me with an hd choice?
[06:37] <twisties> then 1280x1024 is the highest
[06:37] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, no idea
[06:37] <user934> er.. thats widescreen
[06:37] <twisties> is it a 4:3 or 16:10 ratio?
[06:37] <Evanlec> Chriswaterguy, ubuntu has some of the best hardware support of any distro
[06:38] <user934> my monitor is 4:3
[06:38] <Chriswaterguy> MasterShrek: I'm willing to spend a couple of hours tweaking, but I'd like to know which are the approved, safe tweaks. (and if they're approved and safe... why aren't they the default?)
[06:38] <twisties> 1280x1024 is 4:3
[06:38] <user934> It auto detected last time..
[06:38] <user934> now its not working
[06:38] <twisties> and is the largest res on a 17inch
[06:38] <remarK-> Chriswaterguy, I would go for Ubuntu also.
[06:38] <|dream> devasura, here is my dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/734331
[06:38] <MasterShrek> Chriswaterguy, its all user preference
[06:38] <user934> 1280x1024 is 16:9 im pretty sure
[06:38] <twisties> no
[06:38] <twisties> im VERY sure
[06:38] <twisties> it IS 4:3
[06:38] <heguru> user934: no its not
[06:38] <MasterShrek> i gotta run, time for class...
[06:38] <twisties> im using it right now
[06:38] <heguru> MasterShrek: bye :)
[06:39] <Evanlec> Chriswaterguy, try out the livecd, its likely that you can boot to a desktop and all of your hardware will work out of the box
[06:39] <MasterShrek> goodbye all you penguins :)
[06:39] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, lates ;p
[06:39] <user934> But can my monitor do 1125x768?
[06:39] <negluf> So someone knows where ubuntu install the personals certificates? i want to do a secur copy.
[06:39] <user934> what do i edit with nano
[06:39] <genii> Chriswaterguy: Your laptop may be listed in here as far as someone testing it or known issues with ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam  Other decent distributions are Damn Small Linux, PuppyLinux, Knoppix
[06:39] <WJIRC-Test> actually 1280x1024 is 5:4
[06:39] <WJIRC-Test> 1280x960 is 4:3
[06:39] <user934> i remember something like X11/etc/xorg.conf
[06:39] <user934> is that right?
[06:39] <heguru> negluf: personal certificates for what application?
[06:39] <twisties> is 1125x768 some weird widescreen res?
[06:39] <Chriswaterguy> Evanlec: Boot to a desktop?
[06:39] <negluf> mozzilla
[06:40] <WJIRC-Test> 1280x800 is 16:9
[06:40] <user934> oh
[06:40] <user934> my misteak
[06:40] <WJIRC-Test> 1024x768 is 4:3 so 1125 would be probably 5:4
[06:40] <negluf> heguru firefox
[06:40] <Evanlec> Chriswaterguy, yes, the ubuntu livecd boots you to the ubuntu desktop, albeit its running off the CD but its still close to what you'd experience had you installed ubuntu
[06:40] <Chriswaterguy> genii: Tried puppy, seemed super-bare and a bit unstable.
[06:40] <twisties> basically user934. the res you want to aim for is 1280x1024
[06:40] <user934> yes 5:4
[06:40] <twisties> unless you are blind and cant read it at that high
[06:40] <user934> can i edit that in
[06:40] <twisties> then go for something smaller
[06:40] <user934> because currently ubuntu only gives me 3 options
[06:41] <WJIRC-Test> 1280x1024 is a nice balanced resolution which is native for most LCDs but 1280x960 has more software support
[06:41] <Chriswaterguy> Evanlec: ah, *that* desktop :)
[06:41] <amishninja> Speaking of res... does anyone have experience tweaking resolution under Feisty?
[06:41] <Evanlec> Chriswaterguy, yea, that one
[06:41] <genii> Chriswaterguy: At http://distrowatch.com        you can see quite a few distributions listed by popular ranking
[06:41] <negluf> or where can i get help..
[06:42] <Evanlec> !resolution | amishninja
[06:42] <ubotu> amishninja: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:42] <devasura> |dream,  whats the size of ur usb disk??
[06:42] <heguru> negluf: firefox certificates are stored in an internal certificate database, you can view installed certs by viewing preferences -> Advanced -> Encryption -> view certificates
[06:42] <amishninja> ubotu: thank you.
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank you. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <negluf> ok wait
[06:42] <|dream> devasura, 120mb. i rebooted with it in and it recognized it though
[06:42] <amishninja> oh, he's a bot...
[06:43] <Azzkikr> lol
[06:43] <Evanlec> yes amishninja
[06:43] <amishninja> hahaha
[06:43] <devasura> |dream,  so no problem now!!!
[06:43] <Evanlec> its okay you're not the first one to thank ubotu
[06:43] <heguru> ubotu your brain sucks
[06:43] <amishninja> I guess that's why he has "bot" in the name
[06:43] <Evanlec> some people try to have conversations with ubotu lol
[06:43] <Chriswaterguy> genii: thanks for the links
[06:43] <amishninja> durrrr!
[06:43] <psnak> does anyone know how to restore /dev/null?
[06:43] <Badpenguin86> Appr. how much do I need to download to update my system to gutsy when it comes out?
[06:43] <negluf> yomismo?
[06:43] <|dream> devasura, hoorah !!!
[06:44] <Azzkikr> Badpenguin86: probably by a sudo apt-get dist upgrade, but not sure
[06:44] <Evanlec> !gutsy | Badpenguin86
[06:44] <ubotu> Badpenguin86: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[06:44] <Chriswaterguy> Ubotu: the way you talk is turning me on
[06:44] <Evanlec> lol
[06:44] <[mayh3m] pt> Chriswaterguy, the way you talk is turning me on.
[06:44] <Pici> psnak: check out the manpage for makedev  I dont know the exact syntax.
[06:45] <Evanlec> haha
[06:45] <devasura> |dream,  in dmesg you can see the problems if any realated to usb?? u have to search through it though!!
[06:45] <heguru> [mayh3m] pt: Chriswaterguy: the way you two are talking is making me send the !ot message
[06:45] <heguru> !ot
[06:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:46] <Chriswaterguy> sorry!
[06:46] <|dream> devasura, gotcha. thanks for the tip. im new to linux =[
[06:46] <Evanlec> Chriswaterguy, its okay, heguru spends too much time in here ;p
[06:46] <genii> Badpenguin86: I've done it 3 times now and somewhere around 500Mb seems average from Feisty to Gutsy
[06:46] <cyrano> Hi. I need help. I run thunderbird under ubuntu. After updating my inbox was suddenly empty. Still, my inbox file in .thunderbird folder is still 2.6 GB... and growing when i start to download new mails from my inbox. Its a lot of mail i can't access anymore. please help
[06:46] <negluf> heguru in what aplication? in firefox? preferences -> Advanced -> Encryption -> view certificates
[06:47] <[mayh3m] pt> Chriswaterguy: So you wanna come back to my channel? Maybe have a few drinks, and do stuff we'll regret the next morning?
[06:47] <heguru> negluf: in firefox, click at Edit menu then preferences
[06:47] <devasura> |dream,  I too was a few months ago!! Have patience, one u learn u will get to like it!!!
[06:48] <Evanlec> cyrano, 2.6GB of EMAIL? good god man
[06:48] <cyrano> :P
[06:48] <Evanlec> youve got more than a spam problem lol
[06:48] <cyrano> i don't wanna loose it. Its backup from a couple of gmail accounts
[06:48] <|dream> devasura, im sure :D
[06:49] <cyrano> i got 40k mail excluding spam. But i do not want to lose it all. lot of it is important
[06:49] <|dream>
[06:49] <Evanlec> cyrano, you know im not sure how to access old mailboxes, i never understood how an email was stored as a file...id suspect under thunderbird try the import option
[06:49] <heguru> cyrano: thunderbird Inbox file is just a normal mailbox format file, you can mv it to .bak and touch Inbox
[06:49] <user934> ????????/
[06:50] <Pici> cyrano: I believe that thunderbird2's information is in a .thunderbird2/ directory.
[06:50] <Evanlec> heguru, what does "touch" do again? lol
[06:50] <namiwawa> any help with windows emulator installation
[06:50] <Azzkikr> man touch
[06:50] <Evanlec> righto
[06:50] <Chriswaterguy> [mayh3m] pt:man... what an invite... but I've already talked dirty with one person this evening.  Thanks people - and I'll be back!
[06:50] <devasura> Evanlec,  it creates an empty file
[06:50] <Azzkikr> basically, it 'touches' a file. If the file does not exist, it is created
[06:50] <Azzkikr> if the file exists, the date-timestamp is updated.
[06:50] <Evanlec> devasura, why would u want to do that in this case?
[06:51] <cyrano> ok... but how do i touch?
[06:51] <devasura> Evanlec,  i havent followed all ur questions before!!
[06:51] <heguru> Evanlec: he can move the Inbox to .bak and touch Inbox to create a blank Inbox, all his old email will stay in Inbox and he can view them using mutt or even a text editor
[06:51] <heguru> Evanlec: s/stay in Inbox/stay in Inbox.bak
[06:52] <Evanlec> heguru, sounds like he would rather use thunderbird tho
[06:52] <cyrano> so you are saying i can import my inbox file... to show the e-mails
[06:52] <cyrano> ??
[06:52] <cyrano> i'm not familiar with this so i would need some specific instructions
[06:52] <theDtTvB2> Hello, how do I turn off gnome-panel?
[06:52] <heguru> cyrano: you mentioned that you Thunderbird is showing blank inbox? With a 2.6GB Inbox, I am suggesting you move it to .bak and create a new blank inbox with touch
[06:52] <sense> turn off ??
[06:53] <cyrano> what is touch?
[06:53] <Evanlec> im suggesting you relax with the e-mails, 2.6gb ... is ridiculous lol
[06:53] <heguru> cyrano: hm, it creates an empty file
[06:53] <UbuntuGuy> just upgraded to gutsy, trying desktop effects. tells me "can't enable". i180 cihipset, tried both i8109 and intel drivers.  What can I do?
[06:53] <theDtTvB2> Yeah.
[06:53] <theDtTvB2> Looks like gnome-panel forces at least one panel to be on the screen.
[06:53] <UbuntuGuy> s/8109/810/
[06:53] <coco> hi
[06:54] <cyrano> heguru: but how do i "touch" ehat button or terminal command do i do?
[06:54] <theDtTvB2> I want to turn it off. What should I do?
[06:54] <heguru> cyrano: its a terminal command: type touch Inbox
[06:54] <coco> how can i install a ATI X1900 driver
[06:54] <heguru> !ati | coco
[06:54] <ubotu> coco: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:54] <cyrano> but first move the inbox to .bak
[06:54] <heguru> cyrano: yes
[06:55] <genii> UbuntuGuy: comment out any DRI settings in xorg.conf
[06:55] <cyrano> so. step by step: I rename my inbox file "inbox.bak"
[06:55] <cyrano> access .mozilla-thunderbird folder through terminal and type "touch inbox"??
[06:55] <UbuntuGuy> genii including Section DRI?
[06:56] <genii> UbuntuGuy: You may also need to add a section for Composite Extension in there if it doesn't exist already
[06:56] <efx2k3> hey guys i am abs. a noob at linux... how do i install a program that comes in a tar.gz file?
[06:56] <heguru> cyrano: yes absolutely, you can try accessing your Inbox.bak by typing mutt -f Inbox.bak at the terminal
[06:56] <genii> UbuntuGuy: Yes, including section DRI in its entirety
[06:56] <UbuntuGuy> genii: Oh, so how do you do that?
[06:56] <nickrud> efx2k3: what program?
[06:56] <orionr> if i install ubuntu server edition is there a gui with that by default?
[06:56] <UbuntuGuy> genii: composite section I mean
[06:56] <genii> UbuntuGuy: One moment i'll find you a link of what to add
[06:57] <nickrud> efx2k3: it'll depend on what's in that tar.gz
[06:57] <efx2k3> just anything in general b/c ive tried to download many things and they all come in tar.gz files
[06:57] <cyrano> i really don't feel sure if i've udnerstood....
[06:57] <efx2k3> oh
[06:57] <heguru> efx2k3: usually sources come in tar.gz you have to compile them
[06:57] <efx2k3> what is the most used way?
[06:57] <efx2k3> ok using the terminal?>
[06:57] <nickrud> efx2k3: usually you'd look for the same package in the synaptic package manager and install it that way
[06:57] <heguru> efx2k3: you should use System -> Administration -> Synaptic to search and install most programs
[06:57] <bankster> Hi
[06:57] <Pici> efx2k3: What program?
[06:57] <heguru> !hi | bankster
[06:57] <ubotu> bankster: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:57] <espenel> interest
[06:57] <efx2k3> ok cool
[06:57] <Stormx2> dhcp-helper: cannot bind DHCP server socket: Address already in use <--- i need to find out which port this is, and what is using it. Any suggestions?
[06:57] <efx2k3> well some things i need is a dc++ client
[06:58] <spartan> How do I install a VNC viewer in Xubuntu?
[06:58] <Pici> !p2p > efx2k3 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[06:58] <nickrud> efx2k3: search in synaptic for the it, there are several
[06:58] <efx2k3> c and java compilers and development software
[06:58] <orionr> spartan: search for it apt-cache search vncviewer
[06:58] <Pici> !software > efx2k3 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[06:58] <nickrud> efx2k3: all there. synaptic is your one stop source for nearly all software
[06:58] <orionr> does anyone know if i install ubuntu server edition if that has  a gui by default?
[06:58] <Evanlec> synaptic will make your life better ;)
[06:59] <heguru> Stormx2: dhcp-server uses udp port 67, this message means dhcp is already running
[06:59] <efx2k3> ok is it the add/remove thing in ubuntu?
[06:59] <Pici> orionr: No.
[06:59] <heguru> Stormx2: or something else is running on udp port 67
[06:59] <spartan> I mean: How do I install VNC as host on Xubuntu?
[06:59] <orionr> Does anyone know what the best way to secure a computer from brute fore ssh attacks?
[06:59] <bankster> de kub
[06:59] <nickrud> efx2k3: that's a subset of what's available, there's nearly 8000 software packages available in synaptic
[06:59] <src> hello
[06:59] <theDtTvB2> How to stop gnome-panel from launching automatically on login?
[06:59] <Pici> efx2k3: Either the Synpatic Package Manager from System>administration or Add remove programs from Applications (this will probably be easier for you)
[06:59] <Evanlec> efx2k3, thats the "dumbed down" version of synaptic, u can use that but its limited, synaptic is more powerful
[07:00] <heguru> spartan: if you're using gnome and want to share your logged on sessions then just goto System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[07:00] <bankster> Im from Thailand
[07:00] <[mayh3m] pt> How do I install automatix?
[07:00] <cyrano> heguru: ok now i touched the inbox and nothing happened...
[07:00] <bankster> just install  it
[07:00] <efx2k3> thanks guys! :)
[07:00] <heguru> !automatix
[07:00] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:00] <theDtTvB2> bankster: #ubuntu-th ?
[07:00] <bankster> http://www.getautomatix.org
[07:00] <nickrud> [mayh3m] pt: with tongs and not on any machine you want to upgrade later
[07:00] <keito7812> HELP!!!! my drive wont mount and now at boot I get a black srceen telling me initramfs I loaded a livecd to see if my data is intact and the disk wont mount error is as follows mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or other error
[07:00] <bankster> ummm ubuntu-th it's me
[07:01] <[mayh3m] pt> are you saying automatix isn't good?
[07:01] <Pici> [mayh3m] pt: Correct.
[07:01] <nickrud> yes
[07:01] <Evanlec> not if u want to upgrade
[07:01] <[mayh3m] pt> Why is that?
[07:01] <devasura> theDtTvB2,  system->preferences->sessions --- tab of current session
[07:01] <DM|>  /set irc_conf_mode 1
[07:01] <efx2k3> another small question: can anyone recommend a good dc++ client?
[07:01] <heguru> !automatix | [mayh3m] pt
[07:01] <ubotu> [mayh3m] pt: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:01] <nickrud> [mayh3m] pt: read that link the ubotu message
[07:01] <Evanlec> because it doesnt follow ubuntu guidelines for software installation
[07:01] <valahogy> hello hungary
[07:01] <Icekuma> Evening folks
[07:01] <[mayh3m] pt> oh ok
[07:01] <theDtTvB2> devasure: Oh, I am now at the sessions properties
[07:02] <Icekuma> Anyone else have problems with firefox locking up?
[07:02] <genii> UbuntuGuy: Bah.no decent links.Anyhow, att to bottom of xorg.conf 3 lines, like so: Section "Extensions"     new line then:    Option "Composite" "Enable"  then new line again and finally: EndSection
[07:02] <heguru> Icekuma: while using flash?
[07:02] <Evanlec> efx2k3, there's only really one i think that u'd wanna use, its under add/remove programs
[07:02] <devasura> theDtTvB2, remove gnome-panel from there !! i think that should do it
[07:02] <Icekuma> I try to go to youtube and similar sites
[07:02] <Icekuma> I always LOCK up
[07:02] <efx2k3> thanks evan
[07:02] <Icekuma> myspace works okay until I go to a site with videos
[07:02] <Evanlec> yep i get crashes with flash
[07:02] <heguru> Icekuma: thats a flash problem
[07:02] <scrumpyGums> Is there any way of setting the default width of a terminal window?
[07:02] <Icekuma> so what's the fix?
[07:02] <theDtTvB2> Ok, I will try.
[07:03] <Evanlec> flash 9 for linux seems a little flakey to me
[07:03] <heguru> Icekuma: wait for adobe to release a better version for linux
[07:03] <Icekuma> ohh lol
[07:03] <theDtTvB2> Ok, it works for now.
[07:03] <bankster> Can you tell me how can I backup my ubuntu
[07:03] <keito7812> HELP!!!! my drive wont mount and now at boot I get a black srceen telling me initramfs I loaded a livecd to see if my data is intact and the disk wont mount error is as follows mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or other error
[07:03] <theDtTvB2> Now do I logout?
[07:03] <devasura> theDtTvB2, go to tab current session
[07:03] <keito7812> how do I retrieve the data??????
[07:03] <bankster> and restore it when can not startx
[07:03] <AlxR_> jakarta
[07:04] <devasura> theDtTvB2,  no idea
[07:04] <theDtTvB2> devasura: Oh, OK.
[07:04] <Evanlec> keito7812, werent u the one looking for a disk checking software?
[07:04] <UbuntuGuy> genii: I found that I can say Composite "1" and get the same result
[07:04] <keito7812> Evanlec: yes
[07:04] <neverblue2> why would my crontab -e not run, for my user?
[07:04] <Evanlec> keito7812, werent u saying u thot u needed a new HD?
[07:04] <devasura> theDtTvB2, you can restart x server by cntl-alt-backspace
[07:05] <keito7812> Evanlec: now it has gone bigtime
[07:05] <theDtTvB2> Uhmmm
[07:05] <devasura> theDtTvB2, you will go to the log in window
[07:05] <Evanlec> keito7812, well i think you may have proved your point ...
[07:05] <theDtTvB2> Yeah.
[07:05] <Lenway> #ubuntu-fr
[07:05] <keito7812> Evanlec: is there anyway to fix this error and get it to mount so I can get the data back
[07:05] <theDtTvB2> Is there an application name for the logout window?
[07:05] <heguru> neverblue2: are you getting any errors?
[07:05] <UbuntuGuy> How can I control/disable the file indexing feature of Gutsy?  Every startup the disk goes crazy for 5-10 minutes -- didn't happen on feisty
[07:05] <Evanlec> keito7812, there may be, you could try Super Grub Disk, or fsck
[07:06] <keito7812> Evanlec: super grub disc?
[07:06] <valahogy> sos
[07:06] <keito7812> Evanlec: whats that then ;0)
[07:06] <Evanlec> !sgd | keito7812
[07:06] <neverblue2> heguru, the cron running should be indicated in /var/log/syslog, but I am seeing nothing, which leads me to believe the cron isnt running
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sgd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <genii> UbuntuGuy: Same result meaning it's equivelent to "Enable" or same result as in you still can't enable desktop effects?
[07:06] <Evanlec> bah
[07:06] <K-42> Hi, when i try to run a program with wine, it gives me error msg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/833/ does anybody know how to help me?
[07:06] <keito7812> lol
[07:06] <valahogy> hy i am not english
[07:06] <nickrud> UbuntuGuy: look for beagled or trackerd in system-prefs-sessions startup programs
[07:06] <UbuntuGuy> genii: equivalent to Enable -- desktop effects now working!
[07:06] <Evanlec> keito7812, google super grub disc, and fsck is the equivalent of chkdsk in windows
[07:07] <genii> UbuntuGuy: Good :)
[07:07] <heguru> neverblue2: ls /var/run/cron*
[07:07] <BrianMH> when someone is free for some advice let me know please
[07:07] <keito7812> Evanlec: this is not a good situation there was about 80gb not backed up
[07:07] <heguru> neverblue2: if you get crond.pid then cron is running
[07:07] <keito7812> Evanlec: how many times do I have to learn that lesson?
[07:07] <neverblue2> heguru, I see a crond.pid
[07:07] <superflymug> hello everyone
[07:07] <drewzf> When one uses --message with an svn commit where is this data stored?
[07:07] <superflymug> I need help
[07:07] <heguru> neverblue2: then cron is running
[07:07] <Evanlec> keito7812, i just lost about that much data, but that was my own stupidity
[07:08] <genii> BrianMH: A better approach is to just openly ask your question and see if someone responds
[07:08] <neverblue2> heguru, but the cron is to turn my display off
[07:08] <keito7812> Evanlec: this is pretty stupid of me to be fair
[07:08] <nickrud> UbuntuGuy: and possibly what you're seeing is updatedb , it gets run once a day, from /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate something
[07:08] <keito7812> Evanlec: Ie had at least 6 drives die over the years
[07:08] <heguru> neverblue2: to further confirm you can do ps aux | grep cron
[07:08] <keito7812> Ive
[07:08] <superflymug> can anyone help me
[07:08] <keito7812> Evanlec: do I ahve to use sgd to boot then fsck or what?
[07:08] <neverblue2> heguru, and look for ?
[07:08] <Evanlec> keito7812, wow, bad luck, never had a drive die on me really, well one or two, but i had my data backed up on usb drive, accidentally intalled ubuntu somehow on my usb drive lol
[07:09] <neverblue2> !anyone | superflymug
[07:09] <ubotu> superflymug: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:09] <heguru> neverblue2: a line ending with /usr/sbin/cron
[07:09] <drewzf> When one uses --message with an svn commit where is this data stored?
[07:09] <Evanlec> keito7812, super grub disk has its own tools, you can boot off it and look, fsck u can run from the recovery console off the livecd
[07:09] <neverblue2> heguru, does crontab -e not output results to /var/log/syslog, which would be the same as /etc/crontab ?
[07:09] <cyrano> heguru: I had to rebuild the index. That solved the sunderbird problem
[07:09] <xxx> b u
[07:09] <xxx> hohola
[07:09] <xxx> hola
[07:10] <keito7812> Evanlec: that looks like my first port of call then.. trust me, you really wanna back up your shizzle
[07:10] <heguru> neverblue2: crontab -e just opens the users crontab file for editing
[07:10] <cyrano> all my 2.6 GB of e-mails are back :D
[07:10] <cyrano> c u
[07:10] <neverblue2> heguru, that doesnt answer my question :)
[07:10] <keito7812> Evanlec: Im a bit dubious as to the state my data will be in after this
[07:10] <foxiness> am on beta version ,and using vbox 1.5 OSE, when i installed it am on other version what am on it now ,and seems that  sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup not work and point me to log file? any tips?
[07:10] <superflymug> I have just gotten ubuntu and I need to get to the internet with it
[07:10] <superflymug> I cant connect though
[07:10] <heguru> cyrano: good :D i would still backup Inbox if i were you
[07:10] <neverblue2> superflymug, wired, wireless, modem ?
[07:10] <keito7812> superflymug: ethernet or wifi or usb?
[07:10] <keito7812> superflymug: modem???
[07:10] <Evanlec> keito7812, yea i hear ya
[07:10] <heguru> neverblue2: crontab -e does not output anything to syslog, it only opens the users crontab for editing
[07:10] <superflymug> belkin wirless usb
[07:11] <nickrud> foxiness: for 6 more days, gutsy questions on #ubuntu+1
[07:11] <UbuntuGuy> nickrud: I think its trackerd -- I did ctrl-alt-backspace and it went crazy after I logged in
[07:11] <keito7812> superflymug:Evanlec: thanks again for the headsup Il give it a shot
[07:11] <superflymug> thanks
[07:11] <theDtTvB2> Oh, great, gnome-session-save --kill --gui
[07:11] <nickrud> UbuntuGuy: sounds right. you should be able to uncheck it in that session dialog
[07:11] <foxiness> nickrud: k thanks
[07:11] <keito7812> superflymug: wireless can be a pain
[07:11] <superflymug> oh yeah I know
[07:12] <keito7812> superflymug: if it was speedtouch I could help you
[07:12] <neverblue2> heguru, ok, allow my to rephrase for you, as I obviously made a mistake, does the 'users crontab' write to /var/log/syslog, when something is executed within that 'users crontab' ?
[07:12] <drewzf> When one uses --message with an svn commit where is this data stored?
[07:12] <keito7812> superflymug: I had to alter my modprobe.d to get my wifi to work
[07:12] <BrianMH> did that earlier and got no response so thought I would try that method.  Anyway here we go:  I was doing an install earlier on dev/sdb when it froze at installing hardware.  I used xp to delete those extra partitions and booted up to try again.  Now all that is showing is dev/sda and dev/sdb is missing.  I want to try the install again on that drive but can't.
[07:12] <keito7812> superflymug: youe gonna need to do some hardcore research me thinks
[07:12] <BrianMH> sorry used vista to delete
[07:12] <superflymug> I've done research but cant seem to find a solution
[07:13] <neverblue2> superflymug, forums?
[07:13] <superflymug> oh yeah thousands
[07:13] <heguru> neverblue2: when something is executed then yes it writes to sysloh
[07:13] <keito7812> superflymug: i personnaly
[07:13] <heguru> *syslog
[07:13] <keito7812> superflymug: personally don know that card mate
[07:13] <neverblue2> heguru, then why would I not see results posted to /var/log/syslog then?
[07:14] <UbuntuGuy> I've got desktop effects enabled on gutsy,  How do I get to the fancy stuff (like in compiz-beryl) for cube, wobbly windows etc?
[07:14] <neverblue2> heguru, for my 'users crontab'
[07:14] <superflymug> I believe my usb wirless card uses rt73 not for sure though
[07:14] <neverblue2> !gutsy | UbuntuGuy
[07:14] <ubotu> UbuntuGuy: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[07:14] <heguru> neverblue2: perhaps because it never ran?
[07:14] <nickrud> UbuntuGuy: for six more days :)
[07:14] <neverblue2> heguru, if I add to /etc/crontab, I see it run for root
[07:15] <superflymug> keito7812: how do you make that ding
[07:15] <neverblue2> heguru, is there something else I might be missing?
[07:15] <UbuntuGuy> nickrud: do you mean that the fancy stuff is not available yet?  I did upgrade to gutsy the other day
[07:15] <keito7812> superflymug: eh? ding?
[07:15] <nickrud> UbuntuGuy: no, 6 more days of not asking gutsy questions here
[07:15] <bqmassey> are there any applications available that will check yahoo, gmail, and hotmail email accounts?
[07:15] <superflymug> nothing
[07:15] <keito7812> superflymug: I have NO idea lol
[07:15] <UbuntuGuy> oic
[07:15] <coco> anyone knows waht is a run file
[07:15] <heguru> neverblue2: well can't say, unless you've added cron.allow or cron.deny
[07:16] <heguru> coco: did you download the ATI driver?
[07:16] <keito7812> superflymug: wish I could be of more assistance but I gotta go sort my HDD before it explodes! peace
[07:16] <coco> yes
[07:16] <coco> how do i install it
[07:16] <superflymug> later thanks anyway
[07:16] <BrianMH> bqmassey: do you mean check for email?
[07:16] <bqmassey> BrianMH: yep
[07:16] <alex_ajt> Hi folks - has anyone managed to enable kde4 in the new rc?
[07:16] <superflymug> Can anyone help me with getting internet to work on my ubuntu
[07:17] <heguru> !ati | coco: you should follow the instructions here
[07:17] <ubotu> coco: you should follow the instructions here: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:17] <superflymug> I'm using a wireless belkin usb
[07:17] <coco> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html
[07:17] <nickrud> coco: and try the ones provided by ubuntu first, before messing with that one
[07:17] <BrianMH> well gmail offers pop3 so basically any email client
[07:17] <coco> ok
[07:17] <coco> i will
[07:17] <BrianMH> hotmail and yahoo offer pop3 for a fee
[07:17] <nickrud> coco: I'm fairly savvy, and that is a rough road
[07:17] <neverblue2> heguru, thanks for trying to help
[07:18] <coco> im very new to unix and im not good with the commands
[07:18] <Stormx2> Hmm. I need someone to help me through getting internet connection sharing working - I've been trying for a while now but with no cigar. I'm using a wireless card for internet connectivity, and plugging and xbox into my NIC.
[07:18] <grimborg0> hi
[07:18] <bqmassey>  BrianMH: well i was looking for something like Gmail Notifier, that will work for all three
[07:18] <alex_ajt> I was looking for any tips on how to make kde4 show up in the sessions option
[07:18] <heguru> Stormx2: do you know the interface names for your Wireless and wired NIC?
[07:18] <nickrud> coco: you've come to the right place for linux then, this distro keeps all the complexity but has good front ends for it, until you are ready
[07:18] <bqmassey> BrianMH: I don't want to download the emails, I just want to be notified when I have a new one .. and have it open up to webmail to see them
[07:19] <Stormx2> heguru: Yeah. wlan0 and eth0, respectively.
[07:19] <chippy> !ping
[07:19] <ubotu> pong
[07:19] <BrianMH> found one for gmail http://lifehacker.com/photogallery/Lifehacker-Top-10-Ubuntu-Apps/1960239
[07:19] <coco> thank you
[07:19] <BrianMH> looking for one for all 3 if I can find one
[07:19] <coco> ill start reading
[07:20] <coco> :)
[07:20] <grimborg0> i have installed the nvidia proprietary drivers on gutsy and then i could get only low-res Xorg. i tried to revert to the ubuntu drivers, reinstalling nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel, but it always appears in low-res. i only get hi-res with the unaccelerated nv driver. is there a way to cleanly install again the ubuntu nvidia drivers ? thanks
[07:20] <bqmassey> BrianMH: cool, thanks for the help.. im looking too
[07:20] <tatters> !fusion-icon
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fusion-icon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <superflymug> Can anyone help me I'm new to linux
[07:21] <spartan> How do you set up a VNC server on Xubuntu with xfce?
[07:21] <chippy> !anyone
[07:21] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:21] <superflymug> I'm trying to connect to the internet with ubuntu I have a wireless usb belkin card
[07:21] <chippy> bqmassey, gmail also does rss, so can use email reader
[07:21] <BrianMH> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+question/5692 post from emmet hickory offers a possible solution for you
[07:21] <tatters> what best way to stop n start compiz on gutsy
[07:21] <heguru> Stormx2: sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward && sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE
[07:22] <heguru> heguru: then just set default gateway on Xbox to the ip of eth0
[07:22] <Stormx2> heguru: Hmm. The xbox is returning "No DNS server addresses were received from DHCP"
[07:22] <nickrud> tatters: I use compiz --replace && emerald --replace to start, metacity --replace to stop
[07:22] <Stormx2> heguru: Talking to yourself again? :)
[07:22] <bqmassey> chippy, BrianMH:  awesome.. thanks guys
[07:23] <tatters> nickrud thnx ill give it shot
[07:24] <grimborg0> it says "API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7185, but
[07:24] <grimborg0> this X module has the version 1.0-9639.
[07:25] <bqmassey> i'm running 7.10-RC Live CD... it's incredibly slow... i assume that's because it's a Live CD.. correct?
[07:25] <Stormx2> heguru, when i manually set the DNS servers to my computer, my router, or openDNS, I get "DNS Servers could not be reached". maybe ip forwarding isn't working?
[07:25] <Pici> bqmassey: yes.  Further questions in #ubuntu+1 please.
[07:25] <heguru> Stormx2: sorry went to answer the door
[07:25] <chuy_max> what does ro and quiet mean in menu.lst file?
[07:26] <Stormx2> heguru, no prob :)
[07:26] <heguru> Stormx2: you should not use DHCP on xbox, but static IP
[07:26] <chippy> superflymug,  have you looked at the wiki? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs there may be some walk throughs there for your particular card
[07:26] <Stormx2> heguru, I've set up the IP address aquisition to be static. That works fine. But it complains that it hasn't received any DNS servers from the DHCP server.
[07:27] <Stormx2> heguru: i guess that's dnsmasq's fault, I'll look into it
[07:27] <heguru> Stormx2: well I don't have Xbox in front to test, but the error suggests xbox is using DHCP for DNS which it should not
[07:27] <heguru> Stormx2: you should set the DNS server address manually
[07:28] <Stormx2> Hmm.
[07:28] <Stormx2> Hold up :)
[07:28] <Stormx2> heguru, when i manually set the DNS server to the OpenDNS servers (what this machine also uses), it says it can't reach the servers.
[07:29] <Stormx2> So... maybe the packets aren't being forwarded to wlan0?
[07:29] <amishninja> Anyone know how to specify a disc image for VMWare to use for booting a virtual machine?
[07:29] <maxb> dput just surprised me and uploaded a package to upload.ubuntu.com instead of my private repo. Who should I contact to explain and ask for it to be dropped?
[07:29] <heguru> Stormx2: did you get any error running the command I gave you? do you have any firewall running?
[07:30] <Stormx2> heguru: No errors. Firestarter is running, but it won't actually start the firewall.
[07:30] <Stormx2> heguru: Ah, it will now. Wasn't working earlier.
[07:31] <heguru> Stormx2: you have to disable firestarter or atleast create some exceptions for this work
[07:31] <tatters> emerald --replace    gives me errors "Checking for Xgl: not present." and it seems to fail to load  90% of plugins
[07:32] <Stormx2> heguru: interesting. When I start firestarter, it can't locate the network gateway. I'll disable it again.
[07:32] <aunes> I have a theme set up where everything is white on black. Anyone have a suggestion on how to force pidgin (gaim) to display the incoming messages to a dark background instead of white? (grey on white is hard to read)
[07:33] <bqmassey> :  <3's  Ubuntu
[07:33] <bqmassey> there
[07:33] <cherva> how can i change the resolution of the login screen because it is a little longer than my normal resolution (1024x768)
[07:33] <aunes> nm. fixed.
[07:33] <erle64> where can i find out the differences between ubuntu kernels and kernels from kernel.org?
[07:33] <seapiggy> cherva, I would thing you could make it the default in the xorg.conf file and that would take care of it
[07:33] <Stormx2> heguru: uhg. I enabled firewall and got that error. Disabling it again doesn't fix it... meh. i need to eat, be back later.
[07:34] <Tilllinu1> heya.... is there any way to replace the goom visualization effects?
[07:34] <heguru> Stormx2: you would have to run the command i wrote above again, once you're back that is
[07:34] <ShakaGoldSaint> hi there, i'm trying to recover my grub after a windows install...
[07:35] <ShakaGoldSaint> i'm trying with a liveCD and the chroot method but when i get to the "setup (hd0)" part it says in the end: "error 22: no such partition"
[07:35] <DM|> shakagoldsaint type in terminal "mount"
[07:35] <ShakaGoldSaint> done
[07:35] <DM|> shakagoldsaint and pastebin it
[07:36] <DM|> !pastebin | ShakaGoldSaint
[07:36] <ubotu> ShakaGoldSaint: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:36] <amishninja> Does anyone know VMWare?
[07:36] <seapiggy> I am using the desktop cube compiz pager. For some reason, when i do a <ctl><alt><arrow key> it is shifting two desktops over, not just one. Has anyone seen this?
[07:37] <cherva> seapiggy: my desktop (after the login is 1024x768), but the login screen has diferent i don't thing there is an option for the login screen resolution in xorg.conf
[07:37] <amishninja> What's better about virtualbox?
[07:37] <amishninja> meh
[07:38] <ShakaGoldSaint> DM|, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40411/
[07:38] <amishninja> Well, my question is: does anyone know how to specify a disc image for VMWare to use in booting up a virtual machine?
[07:38] <rockets> amishninja, you mean like an iso?
[07:39] <DM|> ShakaGoldSaint umm, what disk are you trying to mount?
[07:39] <cherva> !lostgrub
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lostgrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <amishninja> yes, rockets. iso = disc image :)
[07:39] <cherva> !grub
[07:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:39] <rockets> amishninja, just edit the settings for the cdrom
[07:39] <rockets> amishninja, its right in there
[07:39] <ShakaGoldSaint> DM|, sda6 in my ubuntu partition
[07:39] <amishninja> k
[07:39] <ShakaGoldSaint> is*
[07:39] <ShakaGoldSaint> it's mounted
[07:40] <DM|> ShakaGoldSaint well its now showing its even mounted :(
[07:40] <ShakaGoldSaint> is that a bad thing?
[07:40] <DM|> ShakaGoldSaint well for you yes, you can chroot something that isnt mounted
[07:40] <DM|> Shakagoldsaint why are you trying to chroot out of curiosity
[07:40] <seapiggy> cherva, There is not a special area of the xorg.conf that controls just the login screen and post login desktop. its all the same to the x server.  Do you think you used gnome to change your desktop resolution?? thats the only thing i can think of that would cause that
[07:41] <user934> I am confused about configureing new resolution.. there is no resolution higher than 1024x768 option
[07:41] <ShakaGoldSaint> to run grub-install with my grub settings :P
[07:41] <tatters> sing a nvidia fx5200    compiz --replace && emerald --replace   returns "checking for Xgl: not present and then fails to load plugins"
[07:41] <DM|> shakagoldsaint in the GUI do u see your HDD mounted? Places>Computer
[07:41] <ShakaGoldSaint> yep
[07:41] <seapiggy> cherva, if so, just make the xorg.conf's default resolution be 1024x768 and you should be good
[07:41] <ShakaGoldSaint> i'm trying to recover my grub
[07:42] <cherva> seapiggy: 1024x768 is the default res but the res isn't the same in the login screen
[07:42] <DM|> Shakagoldsaint when u right click it, does it give the option to mount?
[07:42] <croese> got a quick question for you guys
[07:43] <ruz322> croese: go for it
[07:43] <ShakaGoldSaint> DM|, it gives the unmount volume option
[07:43] <DM|> Shakagoldsaint which version of liveCD are u running
[07:43] <seapiggy> cherva - how do you know that? does your monitor have On-Sceeen-Display that tells you what the current resolution is or does it just feel different?
[07:43] <ShakaGoldSaint> feisty
[07:43] <ShakaGoldSaint> i386
[07:43] <kermit_dude> Hi! How can I make my VLC program play my mkv files?
[07:44] <croese> i just built my new comp and when i try to install 7.04, i get the menu and select the install option and it appears to start intalling and then my video suddenly cuts out
[07:44] <croese> i also tried the safe graphics option, same result
[07:44] <ruz322> croese: alternate install cd? sounds like your having some video problems
[07:44] <kermit_dude> Hi! How can I make my VLC program play my mkv files?
[07:44] <cherva> seapiggy when i i move the mouse to the right the login screen scrolls and the clock shows
[07:45] <DM|> ShakaGoldSaint do this "ls -ld /dev/sda7"
[07:45] <belgarath_> What is wrong?  I install nvidia-driver (propert) and got X working... after reboot it fails to start X and I got a message that the kernel module version is wrong...
[07:45] <junkeR> hey, will I notice a big jump in performance going from 512MB RAM to 2GB?
[07:45] <seapiggy> ShakaGoldSaint, this is what i have done in the past - boot from cd, mount root drive. chroot into root drive. run the grub install scripts. exit chroot. unmount root partition. reboot. not sure if that is what you have already tried or not
[07:45] <ShakaGoldSaint> /dev/sda7: No such file or directory
[07:45] <croese> before it happens, i get a msg at the bottom of the screen about the kernel being mapped or some such. this normal?
[07:45] <ruz322> junkeR: yes, definitely
[07:45] <seapiggy> junkeR, yes
[07:45] <ShakaGoldSaint> i have no sda7 partition
[07:45] <kermit_dude> Hi! How can I make my VLC program play my mkv files?
[07:45] <junkeR> usually past ram upgrades haven't been all that noticeable for me
[07:46] <DM|> ShakaGoldSaint ok tell me what u have been trying ( the line for chroot ) in terminal ?
[07:46] <ruz322> croese: are you using the normal cd or the alternate install cd?
[07:46] <seapiggy> cherva, are u running gdm or kdm?
[07:46] <DM|> shakagoldsaint IOW what code have u been entering
[07:46] <cherva> gdm
[07:46] <croese> since i'm not sure what the alternate one is, i'm going to say normal
[07:46] <ShakaGoldSaint> seapiggy, yep, that's what i'm trying to do right now, it's just that when i run grub-install /dev/sda, it says "/dev/sda7: Not such file or not a block device" or something like it, i have no sda7 partition, :S
[07:46] <seapiggy> cherva, I am guessing the login isnt' in the middle of the screen then?
[07:47] <kermit_dude> Hi! How can I make my VLC program play my mkv files? Anyone please help....thanks
[07:47] <ruz322> croese: download the alt install cd iso, and try that, it installs in an all text mode that should work, after you get it installed, if it still dont work, we can troubleshoot the xorg file
[07:47] <cherva> seapiggy no it's just wider
[07:47] <cherva> than 1024x768
[07:47] <croese> k, where's the alternate, same place i got the normal?
[07:47] <seapiggy> ShakaGoldSaint, have you tried skipping the grub install script and just using the grub command to install it?
[07:47] <user934> I am confused about configureing new resolution.. there is no resolution higher than 1024x768 option
[07:47] <ruz322> croese: yes, should be int he same directory
[07:48] <ldiamond> Can any1 tell me how to exit rdesktop when its full screen?
[07:48] <folki> hi all, can anybody  give me advice how can i tell to automount in ubuntu what name of mount point i want to use for my usb disk. for example when i plug an usb disk in, it will be automatically mounted into directory called disk-1. But I do not want use that name. How can i solve this problem? thanks for your replies.
[07:48] <seapiggy> user934, what modes are listed in your xorg.conf?
[07:48] <user934> i tried to edit it .. but even after adding it still doesnt give different modes in gui
[07:49] <bsdunix> is there any proposed relationship between ubuntu and google? <i heard rumor...
[07:49] <user934> in xorg.conf there originally were only 3
[07:49] <ruz322> croese: when you go to "get ubuntu" on the ubuntu website, there is a checkbox at the bottom of the page where you pick your download location that you check to get the alt install
[07:49] <user934> ;-)
[07:49] <croese> yeah, i just found it
[07:49] <seapiggy> cherva, i have no idea - I have never seen that. perhaps you should paste your xorg.conf in the pastebin???
[07:49] <ruz322> croese: k
[07:49] <superflymug50> Hello can someone help me with getting my Ubuntu on the Internet I'm using a belkin wirless usb
[07:49] <croese> btw, i do get the same issue when i try checking the cd also
[07:49] <seapiggy> user934, what video card do you have?/
[07:50] <user934> installed ubuntu feisty on previous pc and it auto gave me best mode..
[07:50] <user934> now using nvidia
[07:50] <user934> different story
[07:50] <ShakaGoldSaint> seapiggy, yep
[07:50] <ruz322> croese: wat do ;you mean checking the cd? md5sum it?
[07:50] <seapiggy> are you using the nvidia driver or the nv driver?
[07:50] <cherva> seapiggy http://pastebin.com/dbbbba90
[07:50] <seapiggy> k
[07:50] <ShakaGoldSaint> seapiggy, in the last step, setup (hd0) gives me this error in the end: "error 22: no such partition"
[07:50] <superflymug50> Hello can someone help me with getting my Ubuntu on the Internet I'm using a belkin wirless usb
[07:50] <croese> no, the md5 sum was good, i mean the checking option on the boot-up menu
[07:50] <ldiamond> Can any1 tell me how to exit rdesktop when its full screen?
[07:51] <d90> for ubuntu and linux generaly what is better graphic card ATI or Nvidia?
[07:51] <croese> where you can verify the cd image, i guess
[07:51] <ruz322> croese: oh you might just have a bad disc, just try the alt cd and see what happens
[07:51] <cherva> d90 Nvidia
[07:51] <croese> alright, thnx
[07:51] <seapiggy> cherva, how did you configure the xorg?
[07:51] <user934> gfx card doesnt show up in devman
[07:52] <croese> of course, this one's d/ling at a snail's pace...just when i need it
[07:52] <user934> some nvidia 7800 something or other
[07:52] <danroj> http://danroj.obolog.com
[07:52] <cherva> seapiggy nvidia-xconfig and a little nvidia-settings after that
[07:52] <user934> anyone?
[07:53] <seapiggy> are you sure you need the metamode line?
[07:53] <seapiggy> line 66?
[07:53] <seapiggy> is it twin view?
[07:53] <cherva> seapiggy twin view is curently disables
[07:53] <cherva> disabled*
[07:54] <seapiggy> you have 1600x1200, 1280x1024 listed as modes on 69.
[07:54] <seapiggy> are those for the second screen?
[07:54] <cherva> my second screen is a tv
[07:54] <seapiggy> ah
[07:54] <superflymug50> Hello can someone help me with getting my Ubuntu on the Internet I'm using a belkin wirless usb
[07:54] <seapiggy> i would remove "1600x1200" "1280x1024" from line 69, restart x and see if that takes care of it
[07:55] <cherva> i'll comment it sec
[07:55] <seapiggy> those modes arn't  for a tv anyway ;-)
[07:55] <seapiggy> k
[07:56] <defendguin> i have an ongoing issue where i deleted a partition from my drive but the file system check keeps trying to check it during boot and drops me into a rescue shell during boot and this is truly annoying   how can i stop this and configure what drives are checked during boot?
[07:56] <Evanlec> WTF i change my gfx card (300$) and ubuntu 64 liveCD still gives me squat when i try to boot it
[07:56] <ldiamond> Can any1 tell me how to exit rdesktop full screen mode?? Im using a VM so ctrl+alt+enter aint working :(
[07:56] <seapiggy> defendguin, is the partition still in your fstab?
[07:56] <cherva> FIXED :)
[07:57] <folki> hi all, can anybody  give me advice how can i tell to automount in ubuntu what name of mount point i want to use for my usb disk. for example when i plug an usb disk in, it will be automatically mounted into directory called disk-1. But I do not want use that name. How can i solve this problem? thanks for your replies.
[07:57] <cherva> seapiggy thx
[07:57] <seapiggy> np
[07:57] <skunkworks> anyone seen this?  http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/GLXGEARS1.png
[07:57] <defendguin> seapiggy: yeah
[07:57] <cherva> folki i'm not shure about it but look at /etc/fstab
[07:58] <fuzzyhair> If I am downloading something and I have a really good connection it will mess with the connections of others in the network. How can I limit my bandwidth so I won't affect others?
[07:58] <cherva> skunkworks what about it ?
[07:58] <riotkittie> if you are going to mess with fstab, back it up first :P
[07:58] <skunkworks> cherva: 7.10 seems to have issues with opengl
[07:59] <Evanlec> fuzzyhair, newer routers have QoS support
[07:59] <nickrud> folki: after you mount the disk, right click the icon on the desktop and select properties. There's an option for setting the displayed mount name there
[07:59] <okeefenokee> Folks, my media center running ubuntu has crashed - I suspect a broken motherboard. WHat would happen if I got a new one, different model with different processor, but kept all the other components? Would my Ubuntu installation still worek, or would I have to do it all over again?
[07:59] <cherva> skunkworks well they have 6 days to fix them :)
[07:59] <Evanlec> okeefenokee, should work no problem
[07:59] <skunkworks> cherva: Yeck ;)
[07:59] <rockets> okeefenokee, if it doesnt work, you can just copy the /etc/ directory, reinstall ubuntu, and overwrite etc with the old directory
[08:00] <rockets> that would restore the vast majority of your configuration
[08:00] <skunkworks> cherva: I posted here if it is the right place  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=573980
[08:00] <nickrud> folki: mount point under volume
[08:01] <folki> nickrud:thanks. and do you know what config file i should edit if do not have gui?
[08:01] <rockets> gutsy seems to work just fantastically for me . . . ive got the crazy compiz fuson stuff running on Xgl with no issue skunkworks
[08:01] <okeefenokee> evanlec, rockets: Thank you, sounds good. I guess I'll start surfing for a new mboard then!
[08:01] <silent_> any tips on customizing my applications/places/desktop menus in gnome? never really tried it, as they're organized so well, but something i installed wasn't added :/
[08:01] <seapiggy> defendguin, why don't you just remove it from fstab? do you need it in there for some reason?
[08:01] <rockets> okeefenokee, :-D
[08:01] <mayeco> is there a channel for Ubuntu Planet?
[08:01] <defendguin> seapiggy: yeah just did that
[08:01] <rockets> silent_, just right click on the applications menu and click edit
[08:01] <seapiggy> kewl
[08:01] <nickrud> folki: nope.
[08:02] <silent_> rockets, thanks
[08:02] <rockets> silent, be thankful. before alacarte, it was a total pain in the ass to edit gnome menus
[08:02] <rockets> you had to edit a bunch of text files
[08:02] <nickrud> folki: the option I'm talking about is kept as part of the gui config. You might look for information about hal, the hardware abstraction layer.
[08:02] <bqmassey> Q:  I'm running a Live CD... how do I figure out how much free space is available for an NTFS partition I have
[08:02] <Evanlec> okeefenokee, yea, u might wanna just check and see if there are ones that work nicely with ubuntu, tho most should
[08:02] <rockets> bqmassey, df -h
[08:02] <mayeco> how is the planet ubuntu admin?
[08:02] <silent> rockets, hehe, I'm thankful for a lot of things in linux that weren't before
[08:02] <rockets> bqmassey, you have to mount it first though
[08:03] <silent> rockets, getting very close to an all-purpose desktop system without cli
[08:03] <rockets> silent, yeah. ubuntu is just great in that way.
[08:03] <Evanlec> anyone else able to boot the 32-bit liveCD but never even get past the first screen on a 64-bit liveCD ?
[08:03] <desertc> Question, recently, I occasionally have problems getting a DHCP address with my desktop computer.  When I run "sudo dhclient", it seems to be successful, but still no addr set to the eth0 card.  What's a good way to start troubleshooting this problem?
[08:03] <bqmassey> rockets: how do i go about mounting it?
[08:03] <riotkittie> ew. dont say 'without cli'. that. is. so. wrong.
[08:03] <bqmassey> ill see if i can figure it out
[08:03] <user934> Could anyone please help me configure my screen resolution?
[08:03] <silent> rockets, I'm actually running debian (taboo?), but its all the same, I run ubuntu on another system as well... really just wanted to try to build my own system from the base up
[08:03] <okeefenokee> evanlec: Aye. Any particular recommendations? I'd like to have Wake-On-Lan and nvram wakeup (or wuzzitcalled)
[08:04] <bulmer> folki: man udev
[08:04] <seapiggy> desertc, have you checked syslog and messages when this happens?
[08:04] <rockets> bqmassey, mount -t ntfs /dev/whatever /mount/me/here
[08:04] <rockets> silent, nothing wrong with debian. if it wasnt for  debian thered be no ubuntu
[08:04] <silent> rockets, yep
[08:04] <desertc> seanw, no -- I will do that next time.  ty
[08:04] <folki> nickrud, bulmer: thanks
[08:04] <amishninja> I am in need of advice; I need to test a website using a php4-based lamp setup. I already have php5-based lamp installed (Ubuntu of course), and I don't want to deal with the confusion of having both php4 and php5 on here because I understand it's messy. so my idea is to use virtualization to install a separate linux and put the php4-based lamp stuff on there to test and run.
[08:04] <rockets> silent, basically debian is like ubuntu, but more stable, and harder to configure. thats the only difference really
[08:04] <amishninja> Question is: what is the best, lightweight distro for doing this?
[08:04] <doogers> ciao a tutti
[08:05] <Evanlec> okeefenokee, mm, i'd recommend my board cuz it works, but its a couple years old, its an intel 955X based board....i'd definitely go for dual-core processor, Amd or Intel is fine, and wake-on-lan should be on most boards
[08:05] <amishninja> I'm not looking to download 2.5 GB's worth of ISOs if possible
[08:05] <riotkittie> !it | doogers
[08:05] <ubotu> doogers: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:05] <croese> evanlec: i'm alos having trouble w/ the 64-bit one
[08:05] <silent> rockets, yeah, I had a limited amount of hard drive space as well.. so not installing the multitude of software that comes with ubuntu was helpful
[08:05] <rockets> amishninja, uh . . . ubuntu? you can install php4 just fine on another box
[08:05] <meek> could anyone please help me change screen resolution?
[08:05] <meek> my screen needs to go to higher resolution
[08:05] <rockets> silent, actually you can do a "command line install" off the alternate cd, which installs basically nothing. and then just add what you want via aptitude/apt-get
[08:05] <meek> ubuntu feisty only gives 3 resolutions
[08:05] <doogers> Oh... please. I thought that I was to Italian Chan :D
[08:05] <Evanlec> croese, yea? i cant get any 64-bit liveCD to do a damn thing, cd-rom just spins for a couple minutes and then stops...no output to screen whatsoever
[08:05] <seapiggy> meek - what is you video card?
[08:05] <okeefenokee> evanlec: And, oh yeah, micro-at would be nice
[08:06] <rockets> rockets, only differences i can tell between cmd line install and server install is one uses the desktop kernel other uses the server kernel
[08:06] <silent> rockets, good to know, haven't looked into that. I might try that on another system.
[08:06] <meek> seapiggy: nvideo 7800
[08:06] <meek> I think
[08:06] <seapiggy> Evanlec, are you sure you are on a 64-bit box?
[08:06] <Evanlec> okeefenokee, micro-at ... u building a shuttle? ;p
[08:06] <riotkittie> :D
[08:06] <croese> evanles: i get to the menu and then as it starts installing, my video cuts out
[08:06] <amishninja> I unfortunately don't have another box to work with at the moment; Is there a minimal Ubuntu installation I can get then? Like just command line? I guess I should also mention that the website I'm testing is running live on a Fedora Core 4 box.
[08:06] <Evanlec> seapiggy, its a pentium D, it HAS to be
[08:06] <hjmills> does anybody know how to get the raw characters from a caca output as text?
[08:06] <silent> rockets, I'm good for now though, getting an hp laptop released 6 months ago to get wireless access/sound functionality is no small feat
[08:06] <krish> hi
[08:06] <seapiggy> Evanlec, just thought I would ask ;-)
[08:06] <bqmassey> rockets: I think that it's already mounted
[08:06] <riotkittie> amishninja: you can go with a ubuntu minimal install and
[08:06] <Evanlec> croese, starts installing? it should be booting to a desktop first...
[08:06] <okeefenokee> evanlec: micro-atx, sorry
[08:06] <meek> ?
[08:06] <genii> amishninja: Yes, install from Alternate CD for a minimal/commandline installation
[08:06] <croese> no, i mean i choose to install it from the bot-up menu
[08:06] <okeefenokee> It's a media center bo, I'm trying to keep it small
[08:06] <seapiggy> meek can you paset your xorg.conf?
[08:07] <Evanlec> okeefenokee, not sure if micro-atx is like small or really small
[08:07] <meek> ok
[08:07] <meek> where?
[08:07] <mayeco> how is the planet ubuntu admin?
[08:07] <rockets> bqmassey, then just do df -h
[08:07] <seapiggy> meek, - also, what resolution are you getting and what do you want?
[08:07] <okeefenokee> Running vdr on it. Not really small, 18x18 cm (about)
[08:07] <adrian`> Where can I set the default position at which new windows should be displayed (GNOME)?
[08:07] <bqmassey> rockets: where do i do that
[08:07] <Evanlec> okeefenokee, but if its the really small kind, i'd definitely search around and find one thats well supported cuz those tend to be less "mainstream"
[08:07] <seapiggy> meek, - read server message
[08:07] <rockets> bqmassey, a terminal . . .
[08:07] <amishninja> genii: okay. do you think it's a good idea to do this if my goal is to test a website that runs on a Fedora Core 4 system? It will essentially run the same, right?
[08:08] <okeefenokee> Well, the previous one (that crashed) worked A-OK. It was El Cheapo, lacked the wakeonram and so on, but served its purpose. Now I'd like to go the whole hog ;)
[08:08] <silent> rockets, Odd thing, the menu editor says I have gimp in graphics
[08:08] <silent> rockets, I'll try to restart x
[08:08] <Cpudan80> Hey all
[08:08] <genii> amishninja: web stuff is (supposedly) platform independent. If you need some box to test the fedora box from, perhaps just run livecd
[08:09] <Cpudan80> Is there a way to see all activity going through SSH? Specifically SFTP
[08:09] <seapiggy> meek - the url for pasting is in the server message - - -
[08:09] <bqmassey> how do i open up a command line in Ubuntu
[08:10] <seapiggy> http://pastebin.com/
[08:10] <linux4me> anyone here setup lvs-dr on ubuntu fiesty and can point me to some docs?
[08:10] <rockets> silent yeah thats a bug sometimes things dont show up. its seems to have been fixed in gutsy though
[08:10] <soulfreshner> I upgraded to gutsy and now my text consoles don't work
[08:10] <amishninja> genii: okay. well perhaps I can find a minimal fedora core 4 installation image and be done with it.  :)
[08:10] <soulfreshner> I specify vga=0x317, but since the upgrade the screen is just blank
[08:10] <adrian`> bqmassey: open the "run command" window with ALT + F2 and type "gnome-terminal" (just an example)
[08:11] <soulfreshner> funny thing is, I'm using the same kernel version ??
[08:11] <linux4me> found this http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ultramonkey.htm, but is was for debian sarge
[08:11] <bqmassey> thanks adrian`
[08:12] <silent> rockets, well I'm running etch
[08:12] <silent> rockets, ;P
[08:12] <genii> linux4me: Most debian install instructions will also work on Ubuntu
[08:12] <soulfreshner> anybody else have the same problem with gutsy on a laptop?
[08:12] <brun0_|laptop> I have  a problem with subversion !
[08:12] <rockets> silent, ah right. then you should be asking in #debian
[08:12] <brun0_|laptop> I get "Unrecognized URL scheme" with https urls
[08:12] <pt> Can someone tell me what could be the problem here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40416/
[08:12] <brun0_|laptop> from today oni
[08:12] <brun0_|laptop> on
[08:12] <silent> rockets, no need, the x restart fixed it. I'm not to worried about it
[08:12] <brun0_|laptop> last update ...
[08:12] <rockets> ah ok
[08:13] <aguiar> # goalunited.pt /
[08:13] <LogicalDash> The smooth scrolling on gutsy's release of Pidgin is very slow. Anyone else having this problem?
[08:13] <silent> rockets, approximately when will gutsy go stable?
[08:14] <rockets> silent, october 18th
[08:14] <adrian`> silent: on october 18th ;)
[08:14] <rockets> silent, but they've already put out a release candidate.
[08:14] <waldo323> party on the 18th :)
[08:14] <silent> rockets, ok, I'll install it then...
[08:14] <rockets> silent, I've been running it with very few issues for the last two days, as production
[08:14] <rockets> waldo323, the 18th is also my birthday :-D
[08:14] <ibt> i'm a little confused on the proper place to define something like the environment variable JAVA_HOME.. /etc/environment doesn't seem to be loaded for /bin/sh scripts
[08:14] <genii> waldo323: At your house? i'll bring the beer...
[08:14] <silent> rockets, mine on the 5th
[08:14] <aguiar> plz how to join another channel
[08:14] <waldo323> rockets, double party for you then
[08:14] <rockets> genii, i'll drink your beer.
[08:14] <rockets> waldo323, totally\
[08:15] <meek> seapiggy: i am getting to pastebin now
[08:15] <Gandalf84> hi
[08:15] <Gandalf84> can somebody help me please?
[08:15] <waldo323> genii, theres a release party in ann arbor, mi i'll be going to
[08:15] <Gandalf84> i had installed ubuntu and XP on my HD
[08:15] <rockets> im hoping ubuntu-newyork does something
[08:15] <Gandalf84> now i installed Vista too
[08:15] <genii> aguiar: //join #channelname
[08:15] <silent> waldo323, they have release parties?
[08:15] <waldo323> yup!
[08:15] <Evanlec> lol
[08:15] <Gandalf84> and it rewrite the MBR and i cannot access to ubuntu
[08:15] <aguiar> thanks genii
[08:15] <silent> waldo323, that's almost lame... but kinda awesome
[08:15] <Gandalf84> can you help me please?
[08:15] <seapiggy> meek - k, brb
[08:15] <genii> aguiar: /join #channelname       rATHER
[08:15] <ron_asheton> cups root password doesn't work using the live cd, even doing a 'sudo passwd'. what can I do?
[08:15] <rockets> silent, a word of warning. HAL seems to crash on me sometimes, at boot. if it does just pop open a terminal and do sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[08:15] <genii> Bah capslock
[08:15] <aguiar> ok , nice
[08:15] <waldo323> it'll be at the ann arbor brewery
[08:16] <silent> rockets, I'm not even sure what HAL is
[08:16] <genii> waldo323: There may be one here in toronto, have to checl local LUG
[08:16] <rockets> silent, its the thing that automounts external hard drives and CDs and does some other stuff
[08:16] <rockets> silent, also theres still a bug where the usplash just shows up as blank, so dont think that its not booting just cuz the screen is blank.
[08:16] <silent> rockets, ah I see
[08:16] <rockets> silent, if you think it isnt booting, in grub, edit the boot params and remove splash
[08:17] <waldo323> there are a lot of ubuntu local groups around as well as lugs
[08:17] <silent> rockets, chances are I'll have to use vga=0x317 option as well.. needed it for my laptop
[08:17] <J-_> I'm just in the process of installing Xubuntu 7.04, and with this machine and another one, while hte boot process goes, it says something about ACPI - unable to locate RSDP
[08:17] <J-_> Is this a big issue?
[08:17] <dunno> what is the latest ubuntu out now?
[08:17] <J-_> Can I correct it?
[08:17] <rockets> silent, whats that do
[08:17] <soulfreshner> my screen boots up blank if I specify any other resolution than the default...
[08:17] <soulfreshner> it's very annoying
[08:17] <aguiar> 7.10 beta
[08:18] <helpme> I just got ubuntu and I need help connecting to the internet can someone help me
[08:18] <meek> seapiggy: http://pastebin.com/d799bed5f
[08:18] <LiMaO> aguiar: 7.10 RC1, to be exact
[08:18] <LiMaO> it's out of beta alreayd
[08:18] <dunno> thnx aguiar :)
[08:18] <silent> rockets, sets a basic resolution I think...
[08:18] <meek> helpme: whats the prob?
[08:18] <aguiar> soon at 18 i believe comes out
[08:18] <rockets> silent, to what though
[08:19] <helpme> I have a belkin usb wirless
[08:19] <helpme> and I cant get it to work
[08:19] <genii> helpme: How is the machine to be connected? LAN cable to router then ADSL/Cable out? Dialup modem? wireless?
[08:19] <neopsyche> hmm
[08:19] <helpme> wirless
[08:19] <silent> rockets, wiithout it the system is blank, with it, console resolution goes up. I think it adjusts for screen dimensions
[08:19] <neopsyche> lots of configurating!
[08:19] <neopsyche> ;-)
[08:19] <neopsyche> :-)
[08:19] <Scunizi> For anyone using Openoffice in Kubuntu.  When inserting and image, the dialogue box in kde allows for choosing a specific partition but I can't figure out how to choose a folder within that partition.  How do I do that? (Kubuntu Feisty)
[08:19] <helpme> can you help
[08:20] <neopsyche> Good news.. wireless devices seem to work better than softmodems for example ;-)
[08:20] <neopsyche> apparently
[08:20] <pt> What does this mean? "configure: error: Cannot find flex."
[08:20] <soulfreshner> helpme, is ubuntu already installed?
[08:20] <helpme> thats real good
[08:20] <neopsyche> what are you connecting to?
[08:20] <helpme> yes I have both it and xp
[08:20] <neopsyche> i know you need to get on the internet
[08:20] <rockets> silent, ah. is your laptop widescreen
[08:20] <neopsyche> seapiggy: pasted to paste bin
[08:20] <helpme> yes I do lol
[08:20] <neopsyche> but.. what device
[08:21] <neopsyche> are you connecting to/through
[08:21] <neopsyche> is it a wireless router?
[08:21] <genii> ScunziI'm pretty sure you don't want to try and pull a file off something like /dev/sd5 or so without mounting it into a directory first someplace
[08:21] <silent> rockets, it sure is
[08:21] <J-_> !lvm
[08:21] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:21] <helpme> a linksys router that is at my bros
[08:21] <neopsyche> does your ubuntu install recognize the device?
[08:21] <pwndrian> Where can I set the default position at which new windows should be displayed (GNOME)?
[08:21] <genii> Scunzi:  I'm pretty sure you don't want to try and pull a file off something like /dev/sd5 or so without mounting it into a directory first someplace
[08:21] <soulfreshner> helpme, if you take a look at /etc/networking/interfaces, you should set the ssid with preup - I had the same problem, for some reason feisty didn't like setting the sessionid once the interface was up
[08:21] <helpme> no it doesn't
[08:21] <helpme> that I know of
[08:21] <rockets> silent, maybe thats my problem. but it used to work fine without doing that
[08:21] <Scunizi> genii: the drive is mounted.  there just doesn't seem to be a directory option.
[08:21] <helpme> let me try
[08:21] <silent> LVM is godly. merged 3 hard drives to create a 1tb mount
[08:22] <seapiggy> neopsyche, looking...
[08:22] <neopsyche> Check system> prefs >  hwinfo
[08:22] <igge> anyone who knows how to disable the scrollwheel?
[08:22] <neopsyche> seapiggy: thanks
[08:22] <silent> rockets, its a new laptop so I'm not sure as to the history of the issue
[08:22] <neopsyche> helpme: Check system> prefs >  hwinfo
[08:22] <aguiar> see if lnksys is set as ACCESS POINT
[08:22] <seapiggy> what resolution are you wanting?
[08:22] <neopsyche> wanting 1125x768 i think
[08:22] <neopsyche> that is what i had last time i think
[08:23] <neopsyche> Ubuntu worked ok on ATI
[08:23] <genii> Scunizi: Since it's running with local user priveleges, OO will only be able to see directories to which that user running it has rights to. So unless there is a directory owned by that user, it won't see much there
[08:23] <neopsyche> now nvidea on other machine
[08:23] <seapiggy> neopsyche, so this is an nvidia card?
[08:23] <neopsyche> I would like to have the option to change modes if i need to
[08:23] <neopsyche> yes
[08:23] <neopsyche> nvidia yes
[08:23] <helpme> ok I put the /etc/networking/interfaces in and it said no such file or directory
[08:23] <neopsyche> hangon
[08:23] <seapiggy> have you tried the "nv" driver?
[08:23] <neopsyche> pastebin .. original xorg.conf
[08:23] <neopsyche> oh
[08:23] <neopsyche> no
[08:24] <neopsyche> how do i get that?
[08:24] <seapiggy> neopsyche, you are using vesa...
[08:24] <soulfreshner> helpme, there are several versions of the problem as I recall - here's another: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/48153
[08:24] <Scunizi> genii: entire drive is owned by me..
[08:24] <neopsyche> yes
[08:24] <neopsyche> vesa yes
[08:24] <genii> helpme: just network not networking   in that path name
[08:24] <seapiggy> neopsyche, just change vesa to nv
[08:24] <seapiggy> and restart x
[08:24] <neopsyche> hmm
[08:24] <neopsyche> in xorg.conf?
[08:24] <soulfreshner> helpme, so you may need to google a bit - but I'm 90% sure you'll fix it with a preup somewhere :/
[08:24] <neopsyche> ok
[08:24] <seapiggy> neopsyche, - how are you editing the file?
[08:25] <genii> Scunizi: Can you ls the contents of the mountpoint in terminal/console?
[08:25] <seapiggy> neopsyche, do a <ctl><alt><F1> and edit it there  - if X doesnt' start back up you can still edit
[08:25] <neopsyche> seapiggy: nano
[08:25] <neopsyche> ctrl alt f1?
[08:25] <seapiggy> good
[08:25] <seapiggy> yeah
[08:25] <neopsyche> whats that do?
[08:26] <seapiggy> its a non-x tty
[08:26] <Blue89> does ubuntu have any remote control apps out-of-the-box?
[08:26] <Scunizi> genii, oh yea.. from every where else in the system it works.  Even in OO I can "save-as" to that partition.
[08:26] <Blue89> I am trying to help a n0b over IM and he wants me to see for myself
[08:26] <Blue89> n00b*
[08:26] <silent> Blue89, ssh
[08:26] <helpme> ok I have good news it recongnizes the router but it will not connect
[08:27] <jc-denton> hi all
[08:27] <genii> Scunizi: Ah, OK. No other ideas offhand then
[08:27] <soulfreshner> helpme, explain - how does it recognise the router?
[08:27] <junkeR> does anyone know where to find a xubuntu 7.10 changelog?
[08:27] <neopsyche> ok
[08:27] <neopsyche> back
[08:27] <silent> soulfreshner, what do you mean?
[08:27] <helpme> it can see it and try to connect but it wont
[08:27] <neopsyche> so now ctrl alt backspace?
[08:27] <genii> junkeR: They might know in #xubuntu
[08:27] <neopsyche> seapiggy:  so now ctrl alt backspace?
[08:27] <Scunizi> genii: it's frustrating.. OO channel says it's not an OO problem.
[08:27] <neopsyche> going to try
[08:27] <seapiggy> neopsyche, sure
[08:28] <soulfreshner> silent, nick helpme, not helpme help me... :P
[08:28] <neverblue2> anyone know of a site for small audio clips ?
[08:28] <silent> soulfreshner, I see
[08:28] <genii> Scunizi: Did you ask in #kubuntu yet?
[08:28] <krish> mp3?
[08:28] <pike_> neverblue2: smallaudioclips.com