[18:32] <lordcirth_> OerHeks, he did say that he got 80MB/s raw on Windows, however.
[18:33] <lordcirth_> But I am doubting that was accurate, given how many caches modern systems have.
[18:33] <OerHeks> those numbers are an indication, start of copy goes fast, until the buffers are full
[18:35] <N00biette> No serisously it's very slow, dd ind
[18:35] <N00biette> indicates 1.5 MB/S
[18:36] <N00biette> a real pain :'(
[18:36] <OerHeks> interesting, just be patient :-)
[18:37] <N00biette> :/
[18:37] <lordcirth_> N00biette, either use a decent root device, or deal with the slowness
[18:37] <lordcirth_> And make sure swap is off
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> N00biette: There are a lot of contributing factors to the write speed of a USB drive. If you're not using a native linux file system, there is overhead for translating to the non-native format. The difference in OS's ability to cache data being written to the drive will affect perceived performance. Motherboard support for what you are doing will be a factor.
[18:39] <pragmaticenigma> N00biette: If you have booted from the USB drive, there is possibilty that the motherboards BIOS/Firmware drops the speed of the USB channel.
[18:40] <lordcirth_> Really? That's annoying
[18:40] <N00biette> I'm gonna swap off ok.
[18:40] <N00biette> and check the bios and uefi
[18:41] <pragmaticenigma> N00biette: If you're attempting to test the same drive that you booted from, you're going to have a huge bottle neck as well... you can't test the same media that you are running the application or operating system from
[18:42] <N00biette> ok
[18:44] <the2048> You can test read if you're booting from it but not write
[18:45] <the2048> However it won't do as good as you expect it to
[18:48] <deanc> I'm using xserver-xorg-video-dummy to create a fake screen on my ubuntu installation that has no monitor plugged in. Unfortunately even though I have changed the resolution of my conf file, when i reboot it doesn't pick up the higher res. https://pastebin.com/nnSiCGcx
[18:49] <tomreyn> N00biette: when comparing with your windows performance test, make sure that the OS runs from a different storage,a nd that the test methods are the same or very similar. what you primarily should compare are both writes (i.e. write larger files to the storage, ideally not to a file system but the raw device, and sync).
[18:50] <tomreyn> N00biette: if, with this setup, writes seem to be much faster with windows than with linux, come back, present your findings, and your system journal, and we can look more closely.
[18:55] <the2048> I'll leave this here for drive stuff: https://imgur.com/a/WU1eseT
[18:58] <gofio> ubi-console-setup crashed, what does it mean
[19:01] <OerHeks> gofio, it means the keyboard setup in the installer crashed, did you verify the download?
[19:01] <OerHeks> !verify
[19:01] <the2048> To be fair if you're on an unstable connection like mine you should always check MD5 hashes
[19:01] <gofio> I'm actually running it I believe since I'm trying to install from a live session
[19:03] <SlowJimm`> how do you make a bash script start right into the beginning of booting?
[19:04] <OerHeks> SlowJimm`, on what ubuntu version?
[19:04] <SlowJimm`> 18.04
[19:04] <SlowJimm`> desktop
[19:04] <OerHeks> such info is needed
[19:04] <ioria> SlowJimm`, define 'beginning'
[19:04] <OerHeks> why on boot, why not after login?
[19:04] <SlowJimm`> OerHeks: ty, ioria: right after boot
[19:05] <Xe> I'm trying to change the DNS on an ubuntu server. How do I make systemd stop using the old DNS server?
[19:05] <SlowJimm`> OerHeks: or such
[19:05] <ioria> SlowJimm`, and what you need exactly ? a gui env to run it or not ?  and what that script does ?
[19:06] <SlowJimm`> ioria I want to know if there is a folder i can move my script so it will be executed aftter log in or after boot or whatever
[19:07] <SlowJimm`> ioria: my script is putting iptables firewall rules
[19:07] <Xe> I have edited /etc/systemd/networkd/50-default.network so it no longer references the old DNS server, but running `dig` makes it use the old dns server
[19:08] <OerHeks> SlowJimm`, you could use a crontrab with '@reboot /path/to/script' https://www.kompulsa.com/run-a-program-on-startup-console-on-ubuntu-18-04/
[19:09] <SlowJimm`> OerHeks: sweet! This'll do nicely
[19:11] <ioria> SlowJimm`,  i'd say a systemd unit with  Before=network.target
[19:11] <SlowJimm`> ioria: even nicer!
[19:11] <dork> anyone know how to run a do-release-upgrade and not have it auto delete packages? i'm trying to do a release upgrade but it's uninstalling a package installed via dpkg -i *.deb
[19:11] <SlowJimm`> ioria: I mean even better! this'll do me nicely!
[19:12] <OerHeks> ioria, great answer, better than crontab
[19:12] <ioria> try it
[19:12] <SlowJimm`> OerHeks: espacially it's right before any connection
[19:12] <OerHeks> dork,  not, those packages are not compatible, so they are removed.
[19:13] <leftyfb> dork: you can probably reinstall them after the upgrade. But that is how the upgrade works.
[19:14] <dork> ok thanks
[19:27] <gofio> oops leftyfb, surprise https://i.imgur.com/MAyCqTr.jpg
[19:27] <leftyfb> gofio: ?
[19:30] <gofio> a backup image leftyfb, oops
[19:30] <Zabot> Are there any known issues with Enterprise wifi on ubuntu 14.04? I can't connect to an enterprise AP, I'm repeatedly asked for the password, but never connect. dmesg shows wlan1 authenticated and then immediately deauthenticates. I don't know if its the wifi or if my keyring is fubared and it can't save the authentication.
[19:31] <leftyfb> gofio: ok? Did you need our help with it in some way?
[19:31] <leftyfb> Zabot: Just FYI, Ubuntu 14.04 will be unsupported in 8 days from today.
[19:31] <gofio> thanks leftyfb but I'm afraid I'll be better of without it
[19:34] <Zabot> leftyfb: I'd love to upgrade, but its running on a robot with a bunch of undocumented os mods by the developer, so I don't have an option :/
[19:35] <OerHeks> Zabot, wait for the developer to support your upgrade target
[19:35] <leftyfb> Zabot: just know, you will not be able receive support in here in 8 days. Your organization does have the option of purchasing an addition 5 years support through Canonical's ESM product. https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/09/19/extended-security-maintenance-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr
[19:35] <qwebirc32239> Hello, I would like to report an issue in 19.04 which was there in 18.04 too. Since Gnome calculator is now installed via snap it is not a search provider and hence I cant say search 1+2 in the activities search panel. I use that feature a lot and probably other users too, so till snap packages provide a way for search integration with GNOME, shouldn't GNOME calculator be packaged via normal deb package
[19:36] <qwebirc32239> Where do I report this? ^
[19:36] <leftyfb> qwebirc32239: you could remove the snap and install from apt
[19:37] <qwebirc32239> leftyfb: Yeah did that, though I just think that by default, it should be installed normally and not via snap
[19:37] <lenny_lemon> hi, having again issue with my touchpad on laptop running ubuntu 16.04
[19:37] <lenny_lemon> cannot disable it
[19:37] <lenny_lemon> it's glitching
[19:37] <gepatino> hello guys!
[19:37] <pragmaticenigma> !bugs | qwebirc32239, try your luck
[19:38] <lenny_lemon> using xinput to disable it but for some time it enable itself
[19:38] <pragmaticenigma> !enter | lenny_lemon
[19:38] <ioria> qwebirc32239, which gnome-calculator
[19:39] <qwebirc32239> ioria: the default one in 19.04 .
[19:39] <gepatino> I'm creating some deb package for an internal project. The .deb contains some configuration files that will be installed under /etc/something/. I can't find how can I delete these configuration files in the hosts where the package is installed if I create a new version without one of those files.
[19:39] <ioria> qwebirc32239, run 'which gnome-calculator'
[19:39] <qwebirc32239> ubottu: Thanks! will report there.
[19:39] <gepatino> for example `package-v1.deb` includes /etc/something/a.conf and /etc/something/b.conf
[19:40] <gepatino> and `package-v2.deb` includes only /etc/something/a.conf, how can I make it delete /etc/something/b.conf when the package is updated?
[19:40] <pragmaticenigma> gepatino: For help with building applications, please check out the Ubuntu application developer channel. #ubuntu-app-devel
[19:41] <gepatino> thanks pragmaticenigma
[19:41] <ikonia> gepatino: creating packages which overwrite / fight for control with ubuntu packages is a bad idea
[19:41] <pragmaticenigma> gepatino: also, an installer should never delete files on an end user machine. It should show a conflict resolution (diff)
[19:42] <gepatino> it's intended to be used in a private application that is only istalled in a set of remote machines
[19:42] <ikonia> yeah, but it fights with control for ubuntu packages
[19:42] <ikonia> so that's just a bad idea
[19:42] <ikonia> create a seperate package that puts the config files in a different location to protect your users
[19:44] <pragmaticenigma> gepatino: But you are using a platform that involves a community that doesn't support that edge case, which would mean that there won't be an ability in the tool set to do that behavior.
[19:44] <gepatino> ikonia: I could do that, but it doesn't solve the issue: how can I delete a file the app doesn't need anymore when updating a deb package?
[19:45] <ikonia> gepatino: just put an rm in the post section
[19:45] <gepatino> think of an image file in /usr/images instead of a config file
[19:45] <ikonia> it's a bad idea as I say, but it's up to you
[19:45] <ikonia> gepatino: same thing - it's a bad idea
[19:45] <ikonia> but totally your call
[19:46] <gepatino> ikonia: I'd like to know before I screw something... why is it such a bad idea on a private package? it's going to be installed only in a set of controlled machines, not released to end users
[19:47] <ikonia> gepatino: as I say, fighting with anything that is in conflict with an ubuntu package will not end well,
[19:48] <ikonia> you need to build an alternative pakage, with alternative name that puts the files you want in a different location
[19:49] <gepatino> thanks ikonia I'll take a closer look at that alternative
[19:59] <minhngoc25a> Could you help with Grub4Dos screen?
[20:01] <leftyfb> minhngoc25a: grub4dos isn't supported here. We only support ubuntu.
[20:02] <minhngoc25a> but grub4dos is the reason I cannot boot to ubunto
[20:02] <alien64> You again
[20:02] <OerHeks> grub4dos is for iso's, not to boot an installed linux, AFAIK
[20:02] <leftyfb> minhngoc25a: install ubuntu properly and it will install grub properly and you'll be able to boot ubuntu and windows
[20:04] <ikonia> why would you have grub4dos on an ubuntu install
[20:05] <minhngoc25a> dual boot windows 10 and ubuntu, I want to prioritize windows 10 to boot first
[20:05] <ikonia> again how does grub4dos come into that
[20:06] <minhngoc25a> but when I edit the boot, i might have corrupted it
[20:06] <ikonia> how does grub4dos come into this
[20:07] <minhngoc25a> easybcd
[20:07] <OerHeks> use grub2 that comes with ubuntu, and the manual to set your priorities
[20:07] <OerHeks> !grub
[20:07] <ikonia> why have you used easybcd
[20:07] <leftyfb> minhngoc25a: install ubuntu after Windows and it's grub install will find and add Windows to the boot. Then you can edit grub to boot Windows first. Anything beyond that (easybcd, grub4dos) are unsupported here.
[20:08] <ikonia> I'm trying to understand why you didn't just install ubuntu and either tell grub to boot windows by default, or put grub on a seperate boot sector
[20:08] <minhngoc25a> when I select to boot to ubuntu, it only appear grub4dos window
[20:08] <minhngoc25a> ubuntu is already installed
[20:08] <ikonia> yeah, because you've used a bootloader not configured by ubuntu
[20:08] <ikonia> so why did you mess around with putting another boot loader on it ?
[20:08] <ikonia> right, and it installed grub
[20:09] <minhngoc25a> I normally use Windows 10, so I want the metro bootloader to load first, not GRUB2
[20:10] <JohnGavr> hello guys
[20:11] <vimar> Hello JohnGavr
[20:11] <minhngoc25a> I cannot even use "ls" to locate disks
[20:11] <ikonia> minhngoc25a: why
[20:11] <JohnGavr> minhngoc25a, ls locate files on filesystem
[20:11] <JohnGavr> lsblk locate disks
[20:11] <ikonia> minhngoc25a: what benifit do you have from metro loading
[20:11] <ikonia> rather than grub loading and booting metro straight away
[20:12] <minhngoc25a> now I'm stuck on the grub4dos
[20:12] <leftyfb> minhngoc25a: you use grub to boot Windows. That's it. There's no reason you can't deal with grub booting Windows.
[20:12] <ikonia> minhngoc25a: just follow the grub recovery steps and put a standard grub install on
[20:12] <ikonia> don't mess around outside of it
[20:12] <ikonia> !grub2 | minhngoc25a
[20:13] <leftyfb> minhngoc25a: you'll need to boot an ubuntu live cd/usb, chroot into the ubuntu install and run grub-install on your drive
[20:13] <minhngoc25a> Thanks for your support. I will read those and attempt.
[20:14] <JohnGavr> chroot saves your life
[20:15] <alien64> leftyfb: thought you said it wasn't supported? But here you are giving support. Make up your mind.
[20:15] <leftyfb> alien64: nowhere did I give support for grub4dos. I told them how to recover grub for Ubuntu.
[20:16] <leftyfb> alien64: do you need help with something?
[20:16] <OerHeks> alien64, nice try, we do help get grub back
[20:16] <alien64> Yeah whatever
[20:16] <AppXprt> ok sorry, I'm back...
[20:17] <AppXprt> anyone using ubuntu 18.04 Desktop on default WM GDM3?
[20:17] <JohnGavr> AppXprt, what happens?
[20:17] <OerHeks> AppXprt,  everybody with 18.04
[20:17] <AppXprt> Try this stupid BS... sudo service gdm restart
[20:17] <leftyfb> alien64: this isn't the first time you've offered your critical and unfounded advice here. Please stay ontopic and either ask for help if you need it or don't.
[20:17] <AppXprt> No that's not true, I'm on mate
[20:18] <JohnGavr> AppXprt, systemctl restart gdm.service
[20:18] <AppXprt> is that not the same as service gdm restart and if not so, why?
[20:18] <alien64> leftyfb: and who are you? The irc god
[20:19] <leftyfb> alien64: trolling is offtopic here. Feel free to rant in #ubuntu-ops
[20:19] <AppXprt> and why does sudo service gdm restart wig X11 out so much that you can't even get to any TTY's and GDM service tries to reboot a thousand times?
[20:20] <AppXprt> I think it finally stops trying around attempt 10000
[20:20] <AppXprt> Someone rode the short bus as a child...
[20:20] <leftyfb> AppXprt: please keep the offensive comments to yourself. This is a support channel
[20:21] <leftyfb> AppXprt: "service" is deprecated in favor of systemd's systemctl tools
[20:21] <AppXprt> OkAy..... Wacko Linux God's who decide horrible future's for Linux
[20:22] <AppXprt> So.... Replace Service with an alias to systemd?
[20:22] <AppXprt> so you don't do dumb stuff like keeping a broken service utility around?
[20:22] <leftyfb> AppXprt: what exactly do you need help with?
[20:22] <AppXprt> Whats the command to restart services now?
[20:23] <dax> systemctl restart whatever.service
[20:23] <lordcirth_> AppXprt, systemctl restart foo
[20:23] <lordcirth_> .service is optional
[20:23] <AppXprt> like centos and RH?
[20:24] <leftyfb> AppXprt: like most modern distros
[20:26] <alien64> leftyfb: been running Unix and Linux since before you were born. I just come here to watch helpers make fools of themselves. BTW I'm 63. And yeah my generation started the internet that you collage fools screw up.
[20:27] <dax> alien64: You're welcome to watch helpers make fools of themselves. You are not welcome to make comments about it, as we stick to support discussion here. Thanks.
[20:27] <leftyfb> alien64: Linux didn't exist before I was born. Try again
[20:28] <alien64> Yeah right
[20:29] <thagabe> linux is actually older than me #feelsbadman
[20:30] <OerHeks> please get back to support, thanks.
[20:30] <dax> probably best to move on :)
[20:31] <thagabe> alien64 *collage* noice
[20:33] <alien64> The Linux kernel is publicly announced on 25 August by the 21-year-old Finnish student Linus Benedict Torvalds. 1992
[20:34] <lordcirth_> !ot | alien64
[20:34] <AppXprt> Why in the world are you all so strict about IRC
[20:34] <AppXprt> Its.... IRC...
[20:35] <OerHeks> AppXprt, take that to #ubuntu-discuss
[20:35] <alien64> Cuz they are little boys
[20:35] <AppXprt> ^ ^ Point Proven
[20:36] <AppXprt> mute?
[20:36] <dax> AppXprt: yes
[20:37] <dax> Now, as said about 10 minutes ago, let's stick to support topics in here, thanks.
[20:38] <AppXprt> Ahhhh Mannnn
[20:38] <AppXprt> Okay...
[21:03] <creamme> Hi all, I have a problem loading Nvidia drivers, I install the suggested ones and I get a ASCII screen that ends with started GNOME display manager
[21:04] <lordcirth_> creamme, what Ubuntu version, nvidia card, and driver version?
[21:04] <lordcirth_> And suggested by who, and installed how?
[21:06] <creamme> Distro is the one that just came out, I'll have to get the computer to boot before I can tell you wich version it recommended, the card is GTX 1050
[21:07] <baako> hi guys, please help here
[21:08] <tomreyn> !ask | hi baako
[21:08] <baako> running ubuntu 18.10 and have no sound. I have install pulseaudio following https://docs.ubuntu.com/core/en/stacks/audio/pulseaudio/docs/install-pulseaudio to try and solve the issue
[21:08] <baako> and still no sound
[21:08] <tomreyn> baako: do you run ubuntu core then?
[21:09] <leftyfb> baako: those instructions aren't meant for a normal install of ubuntu. They're meant for Ubuntu core (snapy)
[21:09] <leftyfb> snappy*
[21:09] <creamme> ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[21:09] <tomreyn> !who | creamme
[21:09] <baako> sorry guys am running 18.04
[21:10] <AppXprt> is there an official route to get PHP 7.1 on ubuntu 18.04 server?
[21:10] <tomreyn> baako: please run this in a terminal and report the output   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[21:10] <tomreyn> AppXprt: no
[21:11] <tomreyn> !info php7 bionic
[21:11] <tomreyn> !info php-7 bionic
[21:11] <tomreyn> !info php bionic
[21:11] <AppXprt> so is ppa:ondrej/php trusted?
[21:11] <tomreyn> 18.04 comes with php 7.2
[21:11] <baako> tomreyn:
[21:11] <leftyfb> AppXprt: use php 7.2
[21:11] <AppXprt> right so what if you need 7.1...
[21:12] <AppXprt> yes, I agree, but it actually breaks some frameworks...
[21:12] <leftyfb> AppXprt: then fix whatever it is that requires 7.1 or use something else
[21:12] <lordcirth_> AppXprt, fix the app? Why would a minor version break it?
[21:12] <tomreyn> AppXprt: PPAs are generally not supported here. the ppa you pointed to is probably ok if you read and follow its manual-
[21:12] <AppXprt> Not my app?
[21:12] <baako> https://kopy.io/6WigB tomreyn
[21:12] <leftyfb> AppXprt: https://medium.com/@visualmodo/why-you-should-be-using-php-7-2-b89ceaaf1f5d
[21:13] <AppXprt> PHP 7.2 actually breaks Oxwall
[21:13] <leftyfb> AppXprt: run something else? Or, go the lazy way and run your php application in a 16.04 container
[21:13] <AppXprt> is 16.04 as secure as 18.04 by default?
[21:13] <AppXprt> err after updates/upgrades
[21:13] <leftyfb> AppXprt: https://developers.oxwall.com/forum/topic/41415?page=2  from over a year ago
[21:13] <lordcirth_> AppXprt, it's still supported, so assuming you update, yes.
[21:14] <tomreyn> baako: so you run Ubuntu Desktop or Server, not Ubuntu Core, ok. the manual you followed is for Ubuntu Core only. I recommend you remove the pulseaudio snap, make sure the pulseaudio apt/deb packages remain installed and reboot
[21:14] <AppXprt> yea I'm actually involved in that conversation...
[21:14] <AppXprt> and some of it is incorrect...
[21:15] <baako> tomreyn: yeah am running desktop and have apache2 running for local dev
[21:15] <tomreyn> baako: i see
[21:16] <AppXprt> 7.2 breaks Oxwall and they won't allow commits to their github for whatever reason
[21:16] <AppXprt> so 16.04 is the official route to run 7.1
[21:16] <leftyfb> AppXprt: sorry, we can't help with that. Maybe find another product that supports modern web technologies
[21:17] <tomreyn> !16.04
[21:17] <AppXprt> But that will have 7.1 in the repo's?
[21:17] <leftyfb> AppXprt: to be fair, 16.04 looks like it runs 7.0 by default
[21:17] <baako> tomreyn: running sudo snap remove pulseaudio will that remove all pulseaudio
[21:18] <tomreyn> baako: it will remove all of the pulseaudio snap you installed
[21:19] <lordcirth_> !pm | creamme
[21:19] <baako> tomreyn: lol i uninstall pulseaudio and sound is back lol
[21:19] <baako> just youtube sound not working
[21:19] <baako> spotify snap is playing music
[21:20] <tomreyn> baako: so this spotify snap apparently uses the standard pulseaudio daemon which comes with ubuntu desktop. as it should.
[21:21] <AppXprt> baako did you close chrome all the way out between switching audio device?
[21:21] <tomreyn> baako: i suspect that by "youtube sound", you refer to  a web browser (which?) playing back videos on youtube.com?
[21:21] <AppXprt> pkill chrome
[21:21] <baako> tomreyn: nope
[21:21] <AppXprt> actually have to execute that twice
[21:22] <baako> even weechat is giving me sound now when you tag my name
[21:22] <tomreyn> AppXprt: how do you know which web browser baako is using?
[21:22] <baako> and i didnt need to close that
[21:22] <AppXprt> yea man you can't switch audio device and expect a browser to catch the change, it has already started and set to whatever device / drivers were set at execution time
[21:22] <creamme> lordcirth_, mk.  Nvidia drivers 418 are not working, the display only shows ASCII, I have SSH access; any ideas to trouble shoot
[21:22] <baako> tomreyn: works now
[21:23] <baako> closed firefox and opened it again. Thanks for your help
[21:23] <AppXprt> it doesn't matter which browser he is using, but most people use chrome and he's already a google user being on youtube so pretty safe assumption
[21:23] <lordcirth_> creamme, the usual; look at logs. syslog, gdm, Xorg.0.log
[21:23] <tomreyn> baako: so by undoing the steps you did when you followed a manual not written for your operating system, you (re-)fixed sound.
[21:23] <OerHeks> creamme, ssh is text only, unless you fix this with screen forwarding.
[21:23] <baako> tomreyn: lol
[21:24] <AppXprt> so restarting firefox brought sound to it too?
[21:24] <AppXprt> it was bound to other device/driver...
[21:25] <tomreyn> baako: the documentation you followed is official, is from Canonoical (the company behind Ubuntu), but is not for Ubuntu Desktop but for Ubuntu Core, a minimal OS for a very specific use case (IoT), not for Desktops.
[21:25] <tomreyn> *Canonical
[21:25] <creamme> lordcirth_, thanks That will get me started
[21:35] <qwebirc62741> I need help, trying to install apache2 and now i have an error
[21:35] <kadiro> qwebirc62741, which error
[21:37] <qwebirc62741> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2jFH7WfHWk/
[21:39] <xamithan> What port is it trying to run on qwebirc62741
[21:40] <qwebirc62741> 80 and 443
[21:40] <blackflow> qwebirc62741: "The Apache error log may have more information"
[21:40] <OerHeks> hint: /var/log/apache/
[21:41] <xamithan> Yeah that's not very descriptive error
[21:42] <blackflow> systemd only knows the service failed but doesn't know why because apache is not (sys)logging or using sd notify. consult the apache logs for details on why it failed.
[21:44] <qwebirc62741> this is what i got in error.log in apache2 folder
[21:44] <qwebirc62741> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WcSXzf4D4k/
[21:45] <qwebirc62741> or is it better way to completely remove apache from my system (and if yes what is the best way for it) thanks in advance i am still learning this
[21:46] <OerHeks> https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-45/product_id-66/version_id-241078/Apache-Http-Server-2.4.29.html drop that version
[21:47] <blackflow> qwebirc62741: btw, it appears your first paste is truncated. can you please add --no-pager to that same journalctl command you did? line 1 seems to suggest the reason for failure
[21:51] <qwebirc62741> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QmkRNynX6H/ here you go the no pager one
[21:52] <OerHeks> qwebirc62741, how did you install that old apache2?
[21:53] <qwebirc62741> followed the tutorial but installed it as a root user
[21:53] <qwebirc62741> then i completely removed it ( watched another tut) and installed as admin with sudo power
[21:53] <OerHeks> qwebirc62741, and what ubuntu version is this?
[21:53] <qwebirc62741> 18.04
[22:08] <jcb2016> how well does powertop work in ubuntu?
[22:12] <jcotton> did freenode split?
[22:12] <dax> jcotton: yes
[22:12] <jcotton> ah
[22:14] <Tr1nk> hello
[22:14] <Tr1nk> im Starmax and i run Slackware :P
[22:14] <Tr1nk> Slackware64 14.2
[22:14] <OerHeks> Tr1nk, nice, format your hdd and install ubuntu
[22:15] <OerHeks> !ot
[22:15] <Tr1nk> OerHeks: it doesnt work like debian of whatever..onlhy slackware run this pc
[22:15] <OerHeks> oke, bye!
[22:16] <Tr1nk> netsplit ??
[22:17] <dax> Tr1nk: yes
[22:17] <Tr1nk> It think ill not stay
[22:17] <OerHeks> !netsplit
[22:17] <Tr1nk> im a netsplit
[22:17] <Tr1nk> very kwel
[22:33] <Deihmos> How much memory is this app using? It is 207MB? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wC8SMlkJ/Annotation%202019-04-22%20182933.png
[22:34] <hggdh> Deihmos: yes
[22:34] <OerHeks> + 42 mb bla bla like they tell you in #debian
[22:41]  * kadiro wondering from where those trollers come from
[22:45] <jeffrey_f> I have a laptop with ssd and a HDD.  I want to move my home folder to the empty HDD, need steps to do this (18.10, will be moving to 19.04) Alternatively, is there a way I can do this during the install process (more than happy to reinstall).
[22:51] <qwebirc99334> I am having some issues around ssh, and trawling google for answers has not been that successful.
[22:51] <qwebirc99334> In short, I have a server with a static IP on my network, which I can ssh to from windows machines, but not my linux laptop.
[22:51] <qwebirc99334> However, I can ssh from the server to my linux laptop. The linux laptop can ssh to my router, so ssh in itself is working.
[22:51] <qwebirc99334> All machines are sitting on the same network, and they are wired (I have the problem still if I go wireless).
[22:51] <hohum> auth-client-config is missing from 19.04.   Any hints on how to get LDAP authentication going without it?
[22:52] <qwebirc99334> If I nmap from the server to its own address, I get two ports open, 22 and 5432, which is expected.
[22:52] <qwebirc99334> If I nmap from the laptop to the server, I only get port 22.
[22:52] <qwebirc99334> I can telnet to both ports on the server from windows, but not from the linux laptop.
[22:52] <qwebirc99334> When I try to ssh from the laptop to the server, I get this "Apr 22 22:12:32 optimus sshd[18105]: Connection from <IP_ADDRESS> port 39708 on <IP_ADDRESS> port 22" "Apr 22 22:12:32 optimus sshd[18105]: Connection closed by <IP_ADDRESS> port 39708 [preauth]". If I telnet on 22, I can clearly see that it is up and running.
[22:53] <qwebirc99334> When I run scp on the server to copy files from the laptop, the connection often closes prematurely without any warning whatsoever.
[22:53] <qwebirc99334> When the laptop starts up, tcpdump shows loads of packets coming in from the linux laptop. None if telnet on 5432.
[22:53] <qwebirc99334> Any ideas?
[22:54] <hohum> what version of openssh is running on the laptop and what version of openssh is running on the server?   You may be running into issues with deprecated key and encryption methods
[22:54] <hohum> if the laptop is < 7.0 it's time for an upgrade
[22:56] <qwebirc99334> ok, let me check. the server should be alright, it was installed a week ago or so.
[22:56] <qwebirc99334> the client on both machines is OpenSSH_7.6p1 Ubuntu-4ubuntu0.3, OpenSSL 1.0.2n  7 Dec 2017
[22:57] <qwebirc99334> Let me check the version of sshd on the server
[22:57] <donofrio_> help what am I missing - http://paste.opensuse.org/90145537 (it's ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS running on PowerBookG4 A1010 - I know it works and I have it on ethernet but as of this netinstall it's not happy about networking)
[22:59] <qwebirc99334> OpenSSH_7.6p1 Ubuntu-4ubuntu0.3, OpenSSL 1.0.2n  7 Dec 2017 on the server as well.
[23:01] <tomreyn> donofrio_: there's #ubuntu-powerpc for this port.
[23:02] <donofrio_> yah my bad
[23:15] <shreds> hi! let's say I installed ubuntu budgie but I stopped using budgie for another DE. can I safely remove the meta packages for ubuntu-budgie without messing my system up? will it uninstall network-related stuff? I would like keep only my i3wm setup and get rid of the rest. But I fear it would mess up the entire system. Any suggestions? Thanks!
[23:17] <Noisette> blanchi
[23:17] <tomreyn> shreds: if you have the other DE's meta package installed and watch out that it doesn't get uninstalled as you remove the old DE's packages, you should be fine.
[23:18] <shreds> @tomreyn
[23:18] <tomreyn> oh, i'm not sure how you installed i3wm, oyu'd need to make sure you don't uninstall any of its dependencies.
[23:19] <shreds> thanks for the answer! my current DE has no meta package so would you suggest getting rid of ubuntu-budgie meta package and replacing it with another like xubuntu's or ubuntu's normal meta package?
[23:19] <shreds> FYI I'm on 18.04.2 LTS
[23:19] <shreds> tomreyn: I see ok; I compiled it
[23:20] <tomreyn> you can just keep ubuntu-minimal installed and make sure you keep the other packages your current DE depends on installed as you tear down budgie
[23:21] <tomreyn> when you're done, pretend to install ubuntu-desktop (but dont do it, use -s) to see what you're maybe missing out on
[23:21] <shreds> @tomreyn I wonder if it will uninstall my "login manager" (the UI thing that ask for user/pass)
[23:22] <shreds> @tomreyn good tip, thanks a lot for the help
[23:22] <tomreyn> possible, you should keep some  login manager installed
[23:22] <shreds> I guess this can't go too wrong in the end hehe
[23:23] <shreds> I'll take it one step at a time and see how it goes
[23:23] <tomreyn> apt logs are in /var/log/apt/ in case something goes wrong
[23:23] <shreds> good to know :P
[23:23] <jcotton> what is var even for?
[23:23] <jcotton> seems to be a misc folder
[23:28] <atheodo> hi i am looking for something like webex to work on ubuntu
[23:29] <atheodo> are you aware of a collaboration swite that will work?
[23:29] <atheodo> tried webex but it will not work
[23:29] <tomreyn> !fhs | jcotton
[23:29] <atheodo> why would you want to manipulate the file strcuture?
[23:30] <glick> hi does anyone know why the darktable icon is black instead of the typical colored wheel when i installed it just now?
[23:31] <gofio> I have installed xubuntu into a 16g usb from another usb with a live session. Now I understand I have to remove the usb with the live session and it will boot from the installed usb, isn't it
[23:31] <tomreyn> atheodo: vnc is the common utility for remote graphical login and desktop sharing. there is also x2go.
[23:32] <OerHeks> gofio, like you did tons of times before
[23:32] <gofio> u seem to know better about me than myself OerHeks but dunno what u're talking about, sorry
[23:33] <OerHeks> gofio, come on, you ask something you already did before... really
[23:33] <gofio> sure OerHeks, whatever u say
[23:34] <atheodo> scratch that, webex works just fine
[23:34] <atheodo> on 64 bit
[23:34] <atheodo> not sure why there are reports that only works on 32 bit
[23:46] <Kareem> Hello!
[23:46] <glick> hey does anyone know why the darktable application uses the dark icon instead of the colorful one?
[23:46] <glick> i just installed it form the store
[23:46] <Eickmeyer> !patience | glick
[23:48] <Kareem> I have a weird question! I installed a software on ubuntu, however, the software refused to run due to an error reading the license! ... when i tried to run the same software on a virtual machine or live disk of the same ubuntu it worked.... i tried to reinstall ubuntu too many times but it never works. Any suggestions?
[23:49] <glick> what software Kareem?
[23:50] <RandomGuyOnIrc> I have e1000e.ko in two places. The new version is: /lib/modules/4.18.0-15-generic/updates/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e1000e/e1000e.ko. How do I pass that path to depmod, to tell depmod to find this when I do a modprobe e1000e ?
[23:50] <Kareem> The error is exactly as follows.... flexnet license error -77 Bad version number - must be floating point number, with no letters
[23:51] <Kareem> The software is Design Compiler by synopsys
[23:52] <Kareem> The thing that's getting me crazy is that it works with the same license when installed in a virtual machine or live disk ...
[23:54] <RandomGuyOnIrc> ln -s /lib/modules/4.18.0-15-generic/updates/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e1000e/e1000e.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`   I think
[23:55] <Kareem> It works on the live disk, when i install it from the same live disk it shows the error
[23:55] <Kareem> I thought it might be something with my bios settings but all seemed ok
[23:55] <Kareem> I tried to change the network adapter settings and set its name to eth0 but still the problem wasnt solved
[23:56] <RandomGuyOnIrc> yep that worked
[23:57] <p0a> Hello how do I install the R programming language ?
[23:57] <p0a> I've tried apt-get install r-base but I don't know what command to run next
[23:58] <Kareem> May be just type r-base in a terminal? Or check ur software list
[23:58] <p0a> r-base doesn't do it
[23:59] <p0a> it's `R' ladies and gentlemen
[23:59] <p0a> capital R. lol
[23:59] <Kareem> Was about to say
[23:59] <Kareem> U can also find it in the menu under the name RStudio
[23:59] <p0a> cheers
[23:59] <glick> hey does apt-get install use snaps? or does only the store use snaps?


[06:35] <jtv> Hi blake_r — thanks for the review.  :)
[09:33] <trash> What would be the place to put custom post-install actions? In the preseed file or somehow (how?) use the already used cloud-init?
[09:34] <trash> The normal action would be to configure puppet and let puppet configure the rest of the servers for us.
[18:30] <blake_r> rvba: could I get a quick review of this https://code.launchpad.net/~blake-rouse/maas/bootresource-cleanup/+merge/231944
[18:30] <blake_r> rvba: just a change in the model
[18:30] <rvba> blake_r: sure
[18:30] <blake_r> rvba: thanks
[20:20] <onicrom> so neither nfs4 or autofs play well in lxc containers


[21:38] <bdx> happy sunday everyone! Can someone provide insight as to where and when the /etc/network/interfaces file is generated...?
[21:38] <bdx> Thanks
[21:39] <bdx> core, dev, openstack-charmers, openstack, charmers:^^