[00:03] <MonoL> Oh man I got it to run but I have no idea what I'm doing
[00:04] <MonoL> It's like I have to start conda environments and then install things and run from within them
[00:05] <MonoL> Dam it I wish I wasn't born dumb as a bag of hammers
[00:05] <Guest70> its working though, rite?
[00:05] <MonoL> yee
[00:06] <MonoL> but I don't want to ruin any programs that might depend on python
[00:08] <MonoL> I don't really know what I'm talking about but I think people setup walled environments in python to stop you from messing around with other programs that might depend on the python base install
[00:10] <Guest70> maybe join #python
[00:11] <MonoL> I could be pulling this info from thin air.. It's just what I've kinda gathered from my limited cognitive ability
[00:11] <MonoL> yeah
[00:12] <MonoL> If I wasn't so dumb I'd probably have joined #python first lel
[00:12] <MonoL> Sorry everyone
[03:15] <fabio_> hi
[04:33] <soreau> Hi, I'm on 22.04. How can I disable the notifications about snap upgrading firefox and chromium via cli?
[04:40] <Bashing-om> soreau: So far as I am aware - ^ -- a works in progress: https://ubuntu.com//blog/snaps-better-refresh-notifications
[04:42] <bougyman> soreau: uninstall snap.
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> bougyman: plz dont advice users to uninstall snap, its a part of ubuntu now
[07:49] <Chipzzz> quit
[07:52] <Chipzzz> quit
[08:30] <lux> hhi
[08:31] <lux> hi guys
[08:31] <murmel> hi lux
[08:31] <lux> hi
[08:31] <lux> how are you doing
[08:34] <murmel> !support | lux
[08:34] <murmel> eh
[08:34] <murmel> !offtopic | lux
[09:31] <ksy> !help
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> what can we do for you ksy
[09:34] <ksy> lotuspsychje: thank you. I just tried the help command to see what the bot can do
[10:04] <elwisp> pending update on discord snap, every day i get this notification several times, how do i get rid of it?
[10:04] <elwisp> it tells me to restart discord, and i have, i have even restarted the machine
[10:07] <ogra> elwisp, the notification is buggy (being fixed atm) and should tell you to stop the app and run "sudo snap refresh" ...
[10:08] <ogra> make sure to refresh the app manually while it is not running and the notification will go away
[10:19] <alkisg> Upgrading my 20.04 server to 22.04 removes the ldap-account-manager package. Upgrade logs: https://termbin.com/k00f
[10:19] <alkisg> I have a snapshot I can retry the upgrade if I can find a way to avoid it. Maybe installing php-json beforehand will help the apt resolver there?
[10:25] <elwisp> ogra: what does refreshing the app manually mean?
[10:25] <elwisp> because i have tried sudo snap refresh already
[10:25] <elwisp> i shall try again, perhaps i left it running that time
[10:26] <elwisp> I think that did it
[10:26] <elwisp> time iwll tell, thanks for the help ogra
[10:49] <alkisg> Indeed `apt install php-json` before `do-release-upgrade` worked around the issue
[11:53] <manwhowouldbekin> Hi all! I am wondering if someone can help me figure out what packages or settings I am missing here? I am trying to install dependencies for a Python project on Ubuntu 22.04. One package called uWGSI fails to install with the following stacktrace: https://pastebin.com/sm5eKqBu
[11:55] <brkcore> manwhowouldbekin, have you tried first sudo apt update && sudo apt-get upgrade --fix-missing -y
[11:55] <manwhowouldbekin> brkcore, I have not.
[11:56] <brkcore> manwhowouldbekin, also try apt-cache depends package_name
[11:57] <murmel> manwhowouldbekin: additionally, why are you trying to install a software which is probably not maintained anymore (as the copyright says 2016)
[11:57] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, It is used by a project I am using as template. I do not know much about it (uWSGI)
[12:00] <manwhowouldbekin> brkcore, Those commands didn't help. What package name?
[12:01] <murmel> can you give the whole output of command + log?
[12:01] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, Which command?
[12:02] <murmel> manwhowouldbekin: which you ran to get to this point
[12:02] <murmel> I assume that error didn't just appear out of nowhere ;)
[12:02] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, The command was 'pipenv install --sequential
[12:03] <murmel> manwhowouldbekin: oh I just realized, it needs python2, which is not available on 22.04
[12:04] <murmel> holy moly, it's still in the repo :X
[12:04] <murmel> oh well
[12:04] <murmel> did you install python2?
[12:07] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, This is the entire log of the command: https://pastebin.com/q1dZag9H
[12:08] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, I have not installed Python2 on my system, AFAIK.
[12:09] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, What is still in the repo?
[12:09] <murmel> python2
[12:12] <murmel> manwhowouldbekin: just a quick test in a vm, after installing all the python2 stuff, uwsgi is installable :S
[12:13] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, I see! What is the best way to install it? I typically use Conda for my Python needs.
[12:13] <murmel> can you install python2 with conda? no idea on that part
[12:15] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, I doubt it. Does this seem reasonable? `sudo apt install python2`
[12:15] <murmel> manwhowouldbekin: but honestly, I would isolate that stuff as much as possible in a vm or so. if you do, just follow the official instructions on how to install it
[12:16] <murmel> manwhowouldbekin: yes, but I would definitely not install it on a system you actively use
[12:16] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, What stuff? The project? Or the Python 2?
[12:16] <murmel> both
[12:16] <murmel> python2 was deprecated like 12 years ago?
[12:16] <murmel> and out of support for like 3 or so
[12:16] <murmel> with uwsgi, at least their github repo still sees some work, but no idea how well it's maintained
[12:18] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, Right. Seems outdated.
[12:19] <murmel> manwhowouldbekin: good luck ;) will be offline for a couple hours
[12:19] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, Thanks!
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:31] <poisone> hi
[12:31]  * poisone loading zm...
[12:36] <BCB> anyone familiar with composer in here?  My google fu is failing me.  I'm getting an unexpected 'use' syntax error and don't know why.  Thank you.
[12:37] <ravage> BCB try #php or the channel of the framework you use like #symfony
[13:03] <Guest60> any irc group for UT5 game engine?
[13:56] <Y05hito__> offtopic, if it's not open source, no.
[13:57] <Y05hito__> try ask on #libera or /list somewhere else
[14:01] <ravage> (the user left long ago)
[14:02] <Y05hito__> ok.
[14:18] <larslu> Every once in a while, gnome-screensaver and it's relatives mate-screensaver/xfce4-screensaver/cinnamon-screensaver have a bug to where it's easy to get around a locked session either by crashing it or some other way. How quickly does ubuntu backport and patch their distros in such an incident? Because it's getting me a bit paranoid if I can trust
[14:18] <larslu> any desktop environment at all to not be easy to circumvent. jwz is very proud of his xscreensaver and always reminds everyone how the rest suck.
[14:21] <ravage> larslu, if there is a security related problem it should be fixed pretty fast. also depends on i which repo your package is. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[14:22] <larslu> gnome-screensaver is under universe, which means its community supported. Can I trust the community will fix it within a very short amount of time?
[14:22] <ravage> no
[14:23] <larslu> If I was paying for ubuntu pro, would I be getting the security patch (even for universe) directly from canonical (and in a very short amount of time) rather than rely on the community?
[14:24] <ravage> for Ubuntu Pro related questions you would have to contact Canonical
[14:24] <ravage> Ubuntu Pro is not a community project
[14:24] <larslu> Okay. Thank you.
[14:27] <bancroft> can you enlarge a raid0 array with mdadm?
[14:29] <bancroft> raid0
[14:57] <mfoolb_> lame question of the day: don't know how messing around with AMD driver did it but I don't have 'terminal'
[14:57] <mfoolb_> listed in the gnome context menu
[14:57] <mfoolb_> how can I add it back to it?
[14:57] <mfoolb_> 22.04 LTS
[15:00] <murmel> yeah waiting ~1m helps to get support xD
[15:03] <jhutchins> murmel: Sometimes all you have to do is post the question to the internet and the answer becomes so obvious you're embarassed to stick around.
[15:05] <murmel> jhutchins: but not even 1 min? idk
[15:06] <Intelo> What do I need to use double shock usb 2 game controller on ubuntu in steam?
[15:07] <Intelo> and driers?
[15:07] <Intelo> and dri ers?
[15:07] <Intelo> and drivers?
[15:07] <murmel> are we talking about official dual shock 2 controllers?
[15:07] <respawn> did you check in steam settings
[15:09] <jfsimon1981_b> Hi seen this one :
[15:09] <jfsimon1981_b> https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/get-game-controllers-running-linux/
[15:17] <Intelo> murmel this one https://youtu.be/9QX1shkfPUM?t=114
[15:22] <murmel> Intelo: oh now it gets definitely way harder, as those third party controllers most of the time have very bad drivers (even on windows)
[15:24] <Intelo> murmel ok
[15:48] <fenrirjk> hi there
[15:48] <fenrirjk> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 22.10 from 22.04
[15:48] <fenrirjk> I have trouble loading my signed modules: "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'vboxdrv': Key was rejected by service"
[15:48] <fenrirjk> My MOK key is enrolled, I can see it in dmesg or with `mokutil --list-enrolled`
[15:48] <fenrirjk> mokutil --sb-state returns `SecureBoot enabled`
[15:48] <fenrirjk> sudo mokutil --test-key MOK.der returns: `MOK.der is already enrolled`
[15:49] <fenrirjk> I have this behavior since I am using the kernel v5.19.x, I am currently using kernel v6.0.6
[15:49] <fenrirjk> With kernel v5.15.x I was able to load my signed modules without any problem
[15:49] <fenrirjk> Can someone help be debugging this issue ?
[15:51] <tomreyn> fenrirjk: hmm, there is no kernel v6.0.6 for 22.10, from what i can tell
[15:52] <tomreyn> are you building this yourself, or obtaining it from a third party, or using the unsupported test kernels?
[15:53] <fenrirjk> tomreyn: I installed it with mainline (Ubuntu Mainline Kernel Installer)
[15:53] <fenrirjk> But I have the same behavior with the 5.19.17 (installed during the release upgrade)
[15:53] <tomreyn> so it's an unsupported test kernel, i see
[15:54] <tomreyn> does it also happen with kinetics current default kernel, 5.19.0-23 ?
[15:55] <fenrirjk> How can I install this one ?
[15:55] <tomreyn> install any pending updates
[15:56] <tomreyn> !uptodate
[15:56] <fenrirjk> !uptodate
[15:56] <fenrirjk> ok
[15:56] <fenrirjk> my system is up to date (via `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`
[15:57] <fenrirjk> doing `apt full-upgrade` right now
[15:58] <fenrirjk> there is indeed: `128 upgraded, 12 newly installed, 5 to remove and 0 not upgraded.` ... I hope that will fix my issue.
[16:00] <tomreyn> fenrirjk: you'd also need to boot into the default (5.19.0-23) kernel. such as by manually bringing up the grub menu and selecting this kernel from the "Advanced" submenu. Or by configuring grub to boot to this kernel by default. Or by removing any higher version kernels.
[16:02] <tomreyn> or by choosing the respective menu entry once (which is not easy), using grub-reboot
[16:02] <fenrirjk> Well I only have two kernels installed: ls /boot/vmlinuz* gives `/boot/vmlinuz  /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-52-generic  /boot/vmlinuz-5.19.17-051917-generic  /boot/vmlinuz-6.0.6-060006-generic  /boot/vmlinuz.old`
[16:03] <fenrirjk> (full-upgrade is completed)
[16:03] <tomreyn> this seems to list three kernel images
[16:04] <fenrirjk> ok, but how can I be sure if there is a v5.19.0-23 ?
[16:05] <tomreyn> hmm, i'm surprised that you have /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-52-generic but not /boot/vmlinuz-5.19.0-23-generic on kinetic (22.10)
[16:06] <tomreyn> apt policy linux-image linux-image-generic     says what?
[16:06] <tomreyn> !paste | fenrirjk
[16:07] <tomreyn> the easiest option to share this output is probably to run:    apt policy linux-image linux-image-generic |& nc termbin.com 9999
[16:08] <fenrirjk> https://dpaste.com/7UZ9TB9GR
[16:11] <fenrirjk> How can I check if a kernel is correctly signed for my secure boot ?
[16:11] <tomreyn> fenrirjk: oh, you just don't have linux-generic installed. you should have, though.
[16:11] <fenrirjk> Yes, i just installed it, thanks tomreyn.
[16:13] <tomreyn> so you now have the default Ubuntu 22.10 kernel image installed, and should boot into that (see above).
[16:14] <fenrirjk> Before I used to sign my kernels manually with my MOK keys, I can now skip this step ?
[16:14] <tomreyn> you should also test whether the out-of-tree vboxdrv kernel module can be built and it can be loaded.
[16:15] <tomreyn> i *think* that both the virtualbox packages probvided by oracle (which i would recommend using) as well as the ones provided by ubuntu in the (community maintained) "universe" repository build the kernel modules using DKMS
[16:15] <tomreyn> so it should happen automatically.
[16:16] <tomreyn> i assume that both are also secure boot compatible, but there i'm not really sure.
[16:16] <tomreyn> you may want to read up on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot/DKMS
[16:16] <murmel> tomreyn: compatible yes, but they still need to be signed, otherwise sb will throw a fit
[16:17] <tomreyn> out of tree modules always need to be signed with your own MOK key, and this key needs to be imported to the uefi firmware managed key store.
[16:18] <murmel> yes i know. I just hope that rh will get to a point to finally upstream the kernel drivers :S vbox is such a pain to "support" because of sb
[16:18] <tomreyn> DKMS has provisions for signing those automatically, and there is also a mechanism to automatically generate and import a locally generated MOK during the Ubuntu installation process (and possibly later, not sure)
[16:18] <tomreyn> rh?
[16:19] <fenrirjk> afaik to sign modules automatically you just need to edit /etc/dkms/framework.conf to give your own keys.
[16:20]  * tomreyn would not know. good luck!
[16:21] <fenrirjk> ok rebooting now, I'll try this 5.19.0-23 kernel. brb.
[16:27] <jhutchins> I wonder if we're having a problem with less software testing because a greater proportion of users are using Linux systems to do work, rather than play with the software.
[16:39] <murmel> tomreyn: redhat works onto upstreaming the kernel modules
[16:42] <fenrirjk> tomreyn: With kernel v5.19.0-23 I managed to load vboxdrv and run virtualbox. Thank you very much.
[16:59] <Sven_vB> hi :) I'm using Ubuntu focal's apt to install winehq. is there an easy way to get a list of all the URLs apt had to download in order to install winehq?
[17:03] <Sven_vB> oh. I should have searched for URI, not URL. trying --print-uris.
[17:21] <x7upLime> I'm trying to build a snapd snap using snapcraft..
[17:22] <x7upLime> Just installed channel 4.x snapcraft and ran snapcraft on this https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/blob/master/build-aux/snap/snapcraft.yaml
[17:22] <x7upLime> The output:
[17:22] <x7upLime> launch failed: Unable to find an image matching "core". Please use `multipass find` for supported remotes and images.
[17:22] <x7upLime> An error occurred with the instance when trying to launch with 'multipass': returned exit code 2.
[17:22] <x7upLime> Ensure that 'multipass' is setup correctly and try again.
[17:24] <x7upLime> "multipass find" shows core and this works as well "multipass launch -n snapTest -m 2G -d 12G core". Also journalctl logs for snapd and snap.multipass are not useful..
[17:24] <x7upLime> am I missing something?
[17:25] <murmel> x7upLime: pretty sure #snappy is the better channel for such things, as ogra is definitely in that channel. but not sure if he is available on the weekends
[17:26] <x7upLime> thanks murmel, I
[17:26] <x7upLime> 'll try
[17:32] <memsworth> Hello folks
[17:34] <murmel> hi memsworth
[17:38] <memsworth> Glad to be hre :)
[18:05] <jhutchins> murmel: Just FYI (offtopic) since fairly early in the Red Hat project, certainly after they reorganized into RHEL and Fedora, they have provided proprietary drivers that are not true Open Source and are not shared with the community.  Only paying customers get access to those.
[18:05] <jhutchins> There's not a process where they "evolve" to open source and move upstream.
[18:09] <murmel> jhutchins: yeah I know. but thanks for pointing out. but as rh themselves said, they talked to oracle to get to a point where the modules are stable enough to get them upstreamed
[18:11] <tomreyn> fenrirjk: glad it worked out with the default kernel.
[18:12] <tomreyn> murmel: i see, i didn't know redhat cooperates with oracle on upstreaming vbox modules
[18:23] <Intelo> murmel did I missed your last message?
[18:25] <murmel> Intelo: idk? but did you look into the link somebody posted?
[18:26] <Intelo> ya its solved.
[18:26] <x7upLime> does multipass image snapcraft:core still exists? (core16)
[18:30] <tomreyn> x7upLime: you may want to ask this in #multipass or #ubuntu-cloud (preferrably during business hours)
[18:35] <x7upLime> thanks ':)
[19:04] <tommix> Hello there! My Ubuntu works so well that it is almost boring. No reasons to fix it, cos it ain't broken in any ways.
[19:05] <ravage> tommix, great. so stay around to help others or come back any time when you run into a problem. if you just want to chat about ubuntu there is #ubuntu-discuss
[19:05] <tommix> ah, ok. I will return if there is some reason.
[19:05] <raub> `When I set the qterminal colours, where does it pick them up? Would that be in /usr/share/qtermwidget5/color-schemes/?
[19:07] <ravage> raub, google says yes
[19:08] <raub> ravage: Are those colours GRB?
[19:08] <raub> er, RGB
[19:08] <raub> I can't see what I am typing right now, it is washed with a light blue background and white text
[19:09] <raub> hence m desire to change it. in LXterminal I can edit one thing but it seems qxterminal I have to create a new colorscheme file
[19:12] <ravage> Color=196,160,0 looks RGB
[19:14] <raub> ravage: thanks. I will run all the colours again in the colorscheme file to see if I can find the one that is annoying me
[19:39] <raub> Found it: it was Color4
[19:40] <Useer> hello
[19:43] <Useer> i love irc
[19:43] <Useer> so clean
[19:44] <Useer> no junk ad's
[19:56] <jpmh> I installed screen - when I try an run it I get a permission issue with /run/screen - it seems that the directory is being created as owned by root with rwx------ permissions.  I have truied changing it, and it does then work.  However, if I leave screen then the problem comes back when I next boot
[20:06] <tomreyn> jpmh: here, /run/screen is: drwxrwxrwt  2 root       utmp         40 Oct 19 22:44 screen
[20:07] <tomreyn> (of course, you may be running something completely different)
[20:07] <jpmh> tomreyn: I know that that is what it needs to be and if a change it to that then all works.  But next time it will be created incorrectly again
[20:08] <jpmh> as to what I am running - I am running what came from the repository
[20:08] <tomreyn> same here, som a specific ubuntu releases' "main" repository
[20:08] <jpmh> Screen version 4.08.00 (GNU) 05-Feb-20
[20:08] <tomreyn> s/som/from/
[20:09] <tomreyn> you could compare the permissions on your system to that of another of the same release
[20:11] <ravage> and /run ist temp anyway.
[20:11] <jpmh> tomreyn: that is sort of what I did.  /run is 755 and it makes /run/screen as 700 - I change it and all is OK tell...
[20:11] <ravage> https://p.haxxors.com/1pj0z8lm.txt
[20:12] <ravage> so even if mess up the rights it fixes itself after a reboot
[20:12] <jpmh> ravage: yes - I know and that is why screen is making /run/screen
[20:12] <ravage> this is a newer version of screen though. so i guess you maybe use 20.04?
[20:12] <jpmh> ravage: and infact it MESSES up after boot, making the /run/screen with the WRONG permissions
[20:13] <tomreyn> but, i suspect, only on your system
[20:14] <EriC^^> jpmh: what permissions does it create
[20:15] <tomreyn> and what is "it"
[20:15] <jpmh> tomreyn: I'm not sure that I understand what you are saying, but also sort of agree - on the HUNDREDS (literally) of other systems that I access there is no issue.  It is just on this NEW laptop
[20:15] <jpmh> EriC^^: it creates 0700
[20:15] <jpmh> EriC^^: owned by the root with group as root too
[20:15] <tomreyn> so is this a fresh installation from an ubuntu installation iso? which version?
[20:16] <EriC^^> jpmh: please type "sudo rm -r /run/screen && sudo apt-get install --reinstall screen"
[20:16] <jpmh> tomreyn: installed maybe two weeks ago 22.04 (minimal)  - And I will NEVER do minimal again - I have wasted so much time adding back things I lost
[20:17] <tomreyn> jpmh: great, that's the kind of basic information that's always good to provide when you have questions
[20:18] <ravage> but then the screen version is irritating
[20:18] <ravage> i have 4.09.00 (GNU) 30-Jan-22
[20:19] <kostkon> !info screen
[20:19] <ravage> !info screen jammy
[20:19] <tomreyn> "apt policy screen" may clear this up
[20:22] <ravage> his output is what you get on 20.04
[20:22] <ravage> just checked
[20:22] <tomreyn> jpmh's screen from a yet unknown package reports it is --version "Screen version 4.08.00 (GNU) 05-Feb-20". jammy's 4.9.0-1 package version would report that it is --version "Screen version 4.08.00 (GNU) 05-Feb-20"
[20:23] <Mentos> lol had to share this discovery in no mans sky -- https://prnt.sc/C0dRSG6F6fXM
[20:23] <tomreyn> jpmh: so what does    apt policy screen    say?
[20:24] <tomreyn> !ot | Mentos
[20:37] <jpmh> EriC^^: sorry for the delay I lost internet for a few - tried the remove and re-install - no change - even did a reboot
[20:38] <EriC^^> jpmh: ls -ld /run/screen gives what?
[20:39] <EriC^^> jpmh: which ubuntu version is this?
[20:40] <Useer> 22.10
 jpmh: so what does    apt policy screen    say?
[20:42] <Mentos> sorry tomreyn was meant for there
[20:42] <EriC^^> jpmh: what happens if you do 'sudo chown root:utmp /run/screen && sudo chmod 1777 /run/screen'
[20:43] <jpmh> EriC^^: as long as I manually FIX the permissions all works fine.    But I am setting the permissions
[20:45] <EriC^^> you're settingg 1777?
[20:47] <tomreyn> EriC^^: jpmh is saying that they are running a GNU screen which reports it is version "4.08.00 (GNU) 05-Feb-20", on a freshly (2 weeks ago) installed ubuntu 22.04. but 22.04 provides 4.9.0. something's not adding up.
[20:48] <EriC^^> ah tomreyn
[20:48] <jpmh> tomreyn: remember that I did need to install screen - which I did with apt install screen
[20:49] <tomreyn> jpmh: from where?
[20:49] <jpmh> and I did just reinstall
[20:49] <EriC^^> jpmh: run 'apt-cache policy screen | nc termbin.com 9999'
[20:49] <jpmh> tomreyn: no idea from where - wherever the system defaulted to
[20:50] <EriC^^> policy should clear it up i think
[20:50] <tomreyn> jpmh: it would have installed version 4.9.0 then
[20:50] <tomreyn> that's why i asked for the policy output 3 times. ;)
[20:51] <jpmh> tomreyn: and EriC^^ thanks to your input I removed screen - rebooted, installed screen and now have the right version and more to the point IT WORKS!  TY
[20:51] <jpmh> I really appreciate you guys and it is help like this that makes me love Ubuntu
[20:52] <tomreyn> good that it works now
[21:29] <morgan-u2> yes now that I can work it the ubuntu 22.04 copy all or part of the screen does work better than before, ease.....
[21:30] <jhutchins> raub: Yeah, it's a perpetual problem with vim, dark blue on black.
[21:30] <jhutchins> Ah yes, the scrollbuffer.
[21:54] <brkcore> is it possible to change the gnome screencast saving the videos in mp4 instead of webm?
[23:17] <olle> Any tips for text to speech apps? That's not the "standard" robot voice, but actually something better.
[23:17] <olle> Lots of paid websites with good voices, but
[23:19] <olle> Hm, some google results
[23:19] <ravage> festival sounds kind of ok https://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/onlinedemo.html
[23:21] <ravage> the voices are all in extra packages
[23:26] <olle> ravage: yeah, found a link here https://askubuntu.com/questions/53896/natural-sounding-text-to-speech
[23:26] <olle> Just have to make it read pdf somehow
[23:27] <olle> Or copy-paste in some easy way
[23:28] <olle> Or read from the x window buffer :d
[23:30] <olle> bash can fetch the copy buffer with a tool. then pipe it to festival perhaps
[23:42] <olle> echo "(SayText \"$(xclip -selection clipboard -o)\")" | festival  '(voice_cmu_us_slt_arctic_hts)' --pipe
[23:42] <olle> That's the one
[23:42] <olle> :)
[23:42] <ravage> :)


[01:11] <pleia2> MarkDude: geeknic announcements? :)
[01:12] <MarkDude> Uh, I may have a hicup with needing to take Gma to baseball game
[01:12] <MarkDude> Sorta no fun here
[01:12] <MarkDude> It is a double header, and the person that was going to take her - cant
[01:12] <pleia2> wanna skip it and pour our effort into linux picnic next month?
[01:12] <MarkDude> Possibly
[01:12] <MarkDude> Will know tonight
[01:12] <pleia2> ok
[01:13]  * grantbow waves from Ubunt Hour
[01:13]  * MarkDude 's life has been revolving around going to OSCON and CLS
[01:13] <MarkDude> and hopefully finding an awesome job
[01:14]  * MarkDude thinks his effort to market himself as cutrate jo no Bacon and Karsten Wade will work
[01:14] <MarkDude> With a bit of Joe Pesci thrown in for good measure :D
[01:15]  * MarkDude still thinks you should wear Leia Dress from end of Star Wars movie, as well as play the award song from the movie at wedding
[01:15] <MarkDude> Even if you don't we should tell folks you will
[01:16] <pleia2> lol
[01:16] <pleia2> mj would not approve :)
[01:16]  * MarkDude will edit a few pictures to make it appear that way
[01:16] <pleia2> I did try to talk him into eloping though
[01:16] <MarkDude> Fair enough, don't want to upset the mammoth hunter ;D
[01:17] <MarkDude> I think he would be ok with just pretending - and telling folks that is your plan
[01:17] <MarkDude> Tell folks that I am performing the ceremony- and you are deciding whether I am dressing like Obi Wan, or R2D2
[01:18] <pleia2> lol
[01:18] <MarkDude> Well you can elope- and just have a party after to invite friends
[01:19] <MarkDude> Non- Star Wars , if you must
[01:19] <pleia2> we're probably getting married back east and then having a party out here
[01:19] <MarkDude> Good deal
[01:19] <MarkDude> Better than trying to do it twice
[01:19] <MarkDude> I have had friends do it that way- they got overwhelmed
[01:19] <pleia2> two weddings?
[01:19] <pleia2> crazy people
[01:26] <MarkDude> I know
[01:27]  * MarkDude is helping friends plan theirs - it takes all sorts of work
[01:27]  * MarkDude is minister for it. It will be my 1st time doing so
[01:27] <MarkDude> They keep asking my opinion, most answers from me are -- idk
[01:28]  * MarkDude just has to help with the vows, and smartly decided that Courtney makes the other decisions
[01:29]  * MarkDude deciding bridesmaids dresses? That is not a good thing XD
[01:29] <pleia2> Courtney is also helping, or getting married?
[01:29] <MarkDude> How big will your ceremony be?
[01:29] <MarkDude> She is helping- It is my friend Sara getting married- her and Colin were at the geeknic
[01:30] <pleia2> aaahh ok
[01:30] <MarkDude> Courtney wont get married for a while I am guessing
[01:30] <pleia2> I don't know how big, I think we were shooting for 100 or so (oh gods, scary, I can't think about this)
[01:30] <MarkDude> Besides, she needs a bf 1st :)
[01:30] <pleia2> pfft, overrated
[01:30] <MarkDude> You will do fine
[01:30] <MarkDude> lol
[01:31] <MarkDude> I mean you already got a cool dude, that is the most important part
[01:31] <MarkDude> MJ is lucky it appears also ;)
[01:31] <MarkDude> 100 is actually manageable - much bigger than that can be a real hassle
[01:31] <pleia2> yeah, we both done good
[01:31] <MarkDude> +1
[01:32] <grantbow> +1
[01:32] <MarkDude> All of it is important, dont get stressed
[01:32] <MarkDude> It does not have to be perfect, accept that from the start, and you both will be able to enjoy it a bit more
[01:33] <MarkDude> The seating thing is the biggest hassle- accept that, and the rest falls into place
[01:33] <MarkDude> Pawn it off on someone else, and then you will be set
[01:33]  * MarkDude suggests maybe playing the cantina song for one of the songs during
[01:34] <MarkDude> Disco version if you dare
[01:34] <philipballew> there are so many versions of that song.
[01:37] <MarkDude> True.
[01:38] <MarkDude> All joking aside pleia2 , I have had folks suggest it is good to look at it like a dinner you must do, the work beforehand is important, its like setting the table
[01:38] <MarkDude> Dont go crazy with the details
[01:39] <MarkDude> Dont worry about it, it will work out fine
[01:39] <MarkDude> :)
[01:54] <pleia2> well, it was just me and grantbow at the Ubuntu Hour, ah summertime :)
[02:49] <rww> "Maybe I should go to San Francisco. Maybe I should sleep. sf... sleep... sf... SLEEP... sf... ZZZZZZZZZZZ"
[02:50] <pleia2> sleep++
[05:50] <jyo> So the two people who tweeted about the Ubuntu Hour were the two people who showed up?
[05:56] <pleia2> yep :)
[18:14] <MarkDude> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2011/07/brian-wilson-skin-tight-tuxedo-espys/1
[18:14] <MarkDude> So much for my plans to wear a skin tight tux to CLS
[18:20] <seidos> bummer, sounds kind of like my plans to wear the batsuit
[18:24] <MarkDude> That would be epic seidos
[18:25] <seidos> there are always problems though
[18:25] <pleia2> MarkDude: word on geeknic?
[18:25]  * pleia2 haz weekend to plan! :)
[18:25] <seidos> started with batman, then nightwing, sooner or later, ends up being robin
[18:25] <MarkDude> lol
[18:25] <seidos> then there's the whole ambiguously gay aspect of batman and robin...
[18:26] <seidos> iheartubuntu: http://fiverr.com/users/seidos/gigs/grow-a-potato
[18:27] <iheartubuntu> hahaa!!! french fries!
[18:27] <seidos> got some ff with nephew yesterday at the mall
[18:27] <seidos> had to return microphone @ radioshack
[18:27] <iheartubuntu> ohh yah?
[18:28] <seidos> yah, need an amplifier it turns out
[18:28] <seidos> so went to local music store, they're going to call me with a price for a set up
[18:28] <MarkDude> I dont think its a go pleia2
[18:28] <MarkDude> <sad face>
[18:28] <pleia2> MarkDude: ok
[18:28] <seidos> btw, hello princess leia
[18:28] <pleia2> g'day seidos
[18:29] <seidos> what's the weather like in sf?
[18:29] <seidos> supposed to go this saturday
[18:29] <pleia2> 50s, partly cloudy
[18:29] <pleia2> same old same old
[18:30] <seidos> better bring a jacket
[18:30] <seidos> need to buy one
[18:30] <seidos> left jacket and hoodie at old place
[18:31] <MarkDude> http://gabeweb.tumblr.com/post/7620638671/star-wars-fan-builds-giant-r2d2-model-from-the << pleia2 just an idea for the after party
[18:31] <MarkDude> Use it as a cooler
[18:31] <pleia2> thank goodness that's not brian wilson in a skin tight penguin costume
[18:32] <MarkDude> I know
[18:32] <MarkDude> Although wearing it would be a for sure job opportuniyty
[18:32]  * seidos hands philipballew a robin costume
[18:33] <philipballew> I hope it fits
[18:33] <seidos> that's usually the problem isn't it?
[18:34] <philipballew> most super hero costumes are to small. because there in kids sizes
[18:34]  * seidos ponders how many push-ups robin can do
[18:35] <seidos> philipballew: this one isn't http://media.80stees.com/images/products/Bat_Man_Robin_Woman-Costume.jpg
[18:35] <philipballew> would i look good in that?
[18:36] <seidos> nah, doesn't fit
[18:36] <philipballew> dang!!1
[18:36] <pleia2> ok, this is worse than brian wilson
[18:36] <seidos> depends what is meant by "i", really
[18:36] <iheartubuntu> do it!
[18:37] <seidos> was looking through super hero cards awhile back (Marvel) and all super heroes are 5'11"+
[18:37] <seidos> average is like 6' or 6'1"
[18:37] <seidos> o_o
[18:38] <philipballew> its the steroids that make them short
[18:38] <iheartubuntu> i guess im a dwarf hero
[18:38] <seidos> tall?
[18:38] <seidos> apparently captain america's steroids made him taller
[18:39] <seidos> lol
[18:39] <seidos> the guy from breaking bad looks like Gordon Freeman from Half-Life
[18:39] <seidos> how absurd, Obiwan is 5'9"
[18:40] <seidos> so, yeah, if shorter than 6', better learn the force
[18:40] <iheartubuntu> seidos - your potato growing venture is worth a tweet :)
[18:40] <seidos> iheartubuntu: good idea
[18:41] <iheartubuntu> i hope it helps you! just imagine the $5 rolling in. i hope your farm is ready for the influx
[18:42] <izdubar> iheartubuntu, have you seen pics of plants recently?
[18:42] <izdubar> I have big plants now
[18:43] <izdubar> Nixie Pixel may be getting one of the tomato plants
[18:52] <iheartubuntu> of tomatoes? potatoes?
[18:52] <iheartubuntu> you have pics?
[18:58] <izdubar> Yep
[18:59]  * MarkDude will find them
[19:29] <MarkDude> pleia2, bonus points for MJ. Much style on how he did things. Looks like it took some imagination and work on his part.
[19:29] <MarkDude> +1
[19:29] <pleia2> yeah, he did an amazing job :)
[19:30] <MarkDude> Better than proposing using text on sign at baseball game :D
[19:31] <pleia2> lol
[19:31] <MarkDude> You would have to text back , nope- try harder next time
[19:31] <pleia2> yes :)
[22:12] <philipballew> pleia2, am I free to like the womens page or is that a gender only thing?
[22:12] <pleia2> philipballew: anyone can like it :)
[22:13] <philipballew> sweet!
[22:13] <pleia2> no gender restrictions anywhere in the project
[22:14] <pleia2> even our goal, while is women-focused, often drifts into generic diversity and accessibility things
[22:23] <philipballew> is there a ubuntu-mens group or is the thought that women and more a minority so they need a own group? just wanna know so i can join it to if there is one
[22:23] <rww> in short, no
[22:24] <philipballew> i see rww
[22:24] <philipballew> oh well...
[22:25] <pleia2> someone could start a men's group if they felt that men were under-represented in the community and needed their own group
[22:25] <pleia2> but thus far everyone who has done such a thing is trolling us
[22:25] <pleia2> apparently picking on minorities is fun for them
[22:25] <pleia2> attacking women, woo
[22:25] <philipballew> seemes like an odd way to pick on someone
[22:25]  * pleia2 does not understand trolls :(
[22:26] <philipballew> pleia2, I agree, whats the point
[22:47] <rww> philipballew: I wish everyone shared that mindset, then there wouldn't be >300 bans in #ubuntu ;(
[22:48] <philipballew> what do they do to get banned?
[22:49] <rww> trolling, cussing up a storm, spamming "where is channel for stock" repeatedly, letting their cat walk over the keyboard, asking for help with non-Ubuntu distros and not listening when we redirect them, bizzare stalkerish comments, notice flooding people with anti-semitic rants... and that's just stuff from the past week :|
[22:51] <philipballew> its easy for them to say that because they are not face to face with the people
[23:09] <nhaines> The invention "punch to the face via TCP/IP" will revolutionize the Internet.
[23:10] <rww> /ctcp luser PUNCH


[00:02] <saptech> wxl, thanks for the reply. around September I installed 18.04, don't remember seeing it or not. I've since upgraded to 18.10
[00:02] <wxl> saptech: that also may be an additional confounding factor. you basically have lxqt installed on top of lxde. that's going to be.. problematic.
[00:04] <saptech> hmmm, I thought I followed a guide on upgrading
[00:06] <wxl> which one? there's one that will get you close to what 18.10 should be, but even then may have some rough edges
[00:06] <saptech> let me go through bookmarks
[00:10] <saptech> I guess I didn't bookmark it
[00:11] <saptech> wxl, this is not it but it was similar to these instructions
[00:11] <saptech> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes
[00:11] <saptech> "Upgrading from Ubuntu 18.04" section
[00:12] <wxl> that's not for lubuntu
[00:12] <wxl> did you read the release notes for 18.10 *l*ubuntu?
[00:13] <saptech> yes
[00:14] <wxl> you didn't see the big warning at the top?
[00:14] <saptech> here is link
[00:14] <saptech> https://manual.lubuntu.me/D/upgrading.html
[00:15] <wxl> "The most major and notable problem is that upgrading Lubuntu from 18.04 to 18.10 causes a fair amount of issues. Therefore, we are not officially supporting this upgrade path at this time, however we have prepared a page in the Lubuntu Manual which can help address the problems that arise after the upgrade."
[00:15] <saptech> upgrade from commandline section
[00:15] <wxl> ^^ from the release notes
[00:15] <saptech> ok
[00:15] <saptech> well my issue is that virtual keyboard
[00:15] <wxl> note "can help" and not "works flawlessly"
[00:16] <wxl> i would look into the way ibus and/or fcitx is setup
[00:16] <saptech> ok
[00:20] <saptech> looking through the link on upgrading, it mention removing some programs, assuming most are lxde programs
[00:20] <saptech> it mentions xfburn, what replacing it?
[00:23] <wxl> they're all *gtk* programs
[00:23] <saptech> yes, but I can't find a replacement for xfburn
[00:24] <saptech> would I need to install one?
[00:24] <wxl> i'm pretty sure we have one just don't remember what it was
[00:25] <wxl> k3b
[06:02] <xdruppi> hi i got this warning while running apt-get upgrade https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KcmvFVZGmh/
[06:02] <xdruppi> i was wondering if it's seomthing i should be worried about
[08:44] <Shawn|i3-350M> so why does the new lubuntu 18.10 LXQt variant download with missing tools?
[08:45] <Shawn|i3-350M> no ifconfig, not sure how to get the address to wifi in the new old school terminal configuration for networking
[08:46] <Shawn|i3-350M> no ethernet cable at disposal
[08:46] <Shawn|i3-350M> connecting to wifi on lxde was not as problematic as this new LXQt
[08:46] <Shawn|i3-350M> on this IBM thinkpad r40
[08:47] <Shawn|i3-350M> not even a network setting option in the freakin configuration center
[08:48] <Shawn|i3-350M> looks like someone in lubuntu's dev team hates connections to non broadcasting wifi channels
[08:50] <Shawn|i3-350M> well, tried connecting to a foreign wifi channel, copied the device address to my connection profile, and its not connecting to the non broadcasting wifi channel >.<
[09:02] <Shawn|i3-350M> is this new release even stable?
[09:37] <Shawn|HD5650M> why is there no 18.10 LXDE variant?
[09:41] <Shawn|HD5650M> at least it supports a P4M
[09:41] <Shawn|HD5650M> Pentium 4m
[09:44] <guiverc> as I stated in #ubuntu - LXDE is pretty much dead (it continues).   LXQT works on pentium M, pentium 4 - I've tested it on QA-testing (i386) including 19.04 Lubuntu
[09:45] <guiverc> ifconfig has been relegated for ages (you can download it if you want; but it's not been a default for some time; ip addr; ip link, ip route etc. has been default)
[09:48] <guiverc> i tested 18.10 (& now 19.04) on thinkpad t43; but thinkpads of a single model didn't all have the same wifi cards added (they were options; 3 available for t43 for exampple; at least two for my r50p;  I can connect to hidden wifi on 18.10 & 19.04, but it's likely related to your chipset used by wifi
[09:54] <guiverc> Shawn|HD5650M, this may help with 'newer' (GNU/Linux; it's not just Lubuntu) network config commands - https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html.en   (ps:  yeah I hated changing too...)
[09:57] <Shawn|HM55> I gave up on 18.10, and went back to 18.04
[09:57] <Shawn|HM55> to me 18.10 LXQt is crap for old machines
[09:58] <guiverc> Shawn|HM55, if I may ask, how much ram do you have?
[10:03] <Shawn|HM55> 2GB
[10:03] <guiverc> either way, Lubuntu 18.04 LTS gives you three years of support (from 2018.April) anyway...  I find LXQt (Lubuntu) runs fine on 1gb pentium m in my QA-testing..  however I avoided testing it with GTK+ programs (ie. old LXDE or gnome lib apps) as that'd need extra ram (like running Qt apps on a LXDE machine)
[10:03] <Shawn|HM55> I like GTK+ programs, they run fine
[10:04] <Shawn|HM55> I maxed the ram on this IBM Thinkpad R40
[10:04] <Shawn|HM55> I even upgraded the optical drive to a floppy drive :3
[10:04] <guiverc> LXDE may be better for you; LXQt desktop will use Qt libs, so you'd be wasting ram running GTK+ based apps on LXQt  (of course waste will vary on app)
[10:05] <Shawn|HM55> how long till the problems with LXQt be fixed?
[10:08] <Shawn|HM55> for some reason, the installer window, during install only showed up black for me
[10:08] <Shawn|HM55> wouldn't show a status like LXDE
[10:08] <guiverc> what problems?   LXQt is stable & default from 18.10 onwards.  (https://lubuntu.me/cosmic-released/)
[10:08] <Shawn|HM55> well, they took away the connect to hidden wifi channels option
[10:08] <Shawn|HM55> which pits me
[10:09] <Shawn|HM55> 18.04 LXDE runs on hidden wifi fine
[10:09] <guiverc> The different wifi-widget thingy (sorry not sure of name) I took some getting used to also (LXQt/18.10), but I found it worked fine was I worked out my wifi's network name..
[10:10] <Shawn|HM55> do you run hidden wifi?
[10:10] <guiverc> ps: my network has a hidden ssid too
[10:10] <Shawn|HM55> how the hell did you get it to work?
[10:11] <Shawn|HM55> I copied the wifi device address, and plugged it into my new wifi profile, with everything
[10:11] <Shawn|HM55> it refused to take a connection
[10:12] <guiverc> if you give me time, I wrote some notes I can upload to somewhere..
[10:12] <Shawn|HM55> okay
[10:12] <guiverc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KT36dw58tb/
[10:12] <Shawn|HM55> I prefer the new LXQt theme too, not too bright, and very size comfortable
[10:13] <Shawn|HM55> whats ncurses?
[10:13] <Shawn|HM55> you entered wlp3s3, without the serial address?
[10:14] <guiverc> i wrote it as a possible first-draft for lubuntu.me (or wiki etc), but it wasn't wanted..  (lubuntu 18.10)  .. ncurses is (new curses) is a toolkit to move cursor & draw neat boxes & stuff on a terminal screen (curses I learnt at uni long ago (1980s))
[10:15] <Shawn|HM55> why post your wifi pass D:
[10:15] <guiverc> yep - wlp3s3 is what my dell d610 laptop has as it's device name (and no that's not my password; it was chosen as it was to be read as if it was a password)
[10:16] <Shawn|HM55> oh xD
[10:17] <Shawn|HM55> when I tried to highlight with my keys it closed the terminal session >.<
[10:17] <Shawn|HM55> so I just used the trackpad
[10:17] <guiverc> I use only the joystick thingy
[10:17] <Shawn|HM55> your lucky you got that nice network connection notification :P
[10:18] <Shawn|HM55> the nipple?
[10:18] <Shawn|HM55> I have a keyboard nipple too
[10:18] <guiverc> (and tab a lot) - yeah nipple..
[10:18] <Shawn|HM55> lol
[10:18] <Shawn|HM55> its very sensitive
[10:22] <Shawn|HM55> so, is Qt superior to LXDE?
[10:22] <Shawn|HM55> in performance on older machines?
[10:23] <guiverc> Qt is a toolkit like GTK+ is...  Each has it's pro's & con's.   As a user, you're likely to not care; and what will matter most to you is the apps you want to use are written for that toolkit (esp. with limited ram; ie. <4gb)
[10:24] <Shawn|HM55> ah
[10:24] <Shawn|HM55> wonder how many GTK programs will be ported to Qt
[10:24] <guiverc> Qt is used by KDE, and Android.  It's corporate owned (but free for GNU/Linux, not free for phones/tablets, or windows).   GTK+ is GNU based (for ethical reasons, they didn't like a company owning Qt)
[10:25] <guiverc> the word free I used then is more $cost free (not debian's free versus non-free)
[10:25] <Shawn|HM55> ah
[10:26] <guiverc> (though of course, it was the free versus non-free as used by debian that caused gimp-toolkit (gtk) to become gtk+ (gimp-gnome-gnu toolkit) ... etc)
[10:27] <guiverc> historical stuff you can ignore .. I'm old & like my history :)
[10:27] <Shawn|HM55> well, I will try again tomorrow when I wake up
[10:28] <Shawn|HM55> it seems the installation on this new to me PATA HDD is not working as expected
[10:28] <Shawn|HM55> being larger capacity
[10:28] <Shawn|HM55> 40GB instead of 30GB
[10:28] <guiverc> Good luck - and enjoy whichever you decide to use.
[10:28] <Shawn|HM55> PATA SSD's are expensive ._.
[10:29] <guiverc> my machines still have spinning-rust  (not ssd)
[10:29] <Shawn|HM55> they aren't rusting
[10:29] <Shawn|HM55> one day I may afford buying a PATA SSD for this machine :3
[10:31] <guiverc> i haven't used a r40(p) in a long-long time.. I loved it; so I can't recall issues with bios & disk space sorry..
[10:34] <guiverc> also re: this room, some of the main people in this room are US based; so are sleeping right now (why it's quiet),  [I'm in au]
[10:35] <Shawn|HM55> gnight folks
[10:35] <guiverc> night :)
[21:20] <Shawn|i3-350M> anyone here have trouble with a WPA2 personal AES hidden broadcast connection on the new lubuntu?
[21:21] <tsimonq2> Not at all.
[21:21] <tsimonq2> Works fine here.
[21:21] <wxl> you're using aes?
[21:21] <tsimonq2> I think so
[21:21] <tsimonq2> Dunno, it's hidden WPA2 personal :)
[21:22] <tsimonq2> I don't know much about networking yet
[21:22] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:22] <wxl> there's aes, tkip, or both essentially
[21:22] <wxl> might be reasonable to check what your router is serving up
[21:47] <Shawn|i3-350M> tea
[21:47] <Shawn|i3-350M> *yea
[21:48] <Shawn|i3-350M> when I try to connect, by adding my own wifi network connection profile, it doesn't try to automatically connect
[21:48] <Shawn|i3-350M> wxl, I tried connecting with what I have always been able to connect with in lubuntu 18.04
[21:49] <Shawn|i3-350M> for the installer in 18.10, is it supposed to show a black screen during install?
[21:49] <Shawn|i3-350M> or a black window
[21:49] <Shawn|i3-350M> not a black screen
[21:54] <wxl> nope. might be a graphics issue. you may need to install the proprietary drivers to get wireless and graphics to work properly. to be fair, it's a common issue Shawn|i3-350M. proprietary software sucks.
[21:55] <guiverc> Shawn|i3-350M, after I enter details (of new wifi), I then left click the icon [bottom left] & select the created profile on the networking widget
[21:55] <guiverc> (first time only anyway)
[22:09] <Shawn|i3-350M> wireless drivers are working
[22:09] <Shawn|i3-350M> qualcomm altheros chipset in my laptop is using the ath5 drivers
[22:10] <Shawn|i3-350M> what has changed with graphical drivers between 18.04 and 18.10
[22:12] <Shawn|i3-350M> *atheros
[22:13] <Shawn|i3-350M> okay that was weird, I went fullscreen, and the window is readable now
[22:43] <Shawn|i3-350M> set up the profile after installing to the hdd, no connect attempt made
[22:43] <Shawn|i3-350M> is there a setting I have to check somewhere to tell it its hidden?
[22:54] <Shawn|i3-350M> ath5k*
[22:58] <guiverc> Shawn|i3-350M, I didn't tell mine it was a hidden ssid; just made sure the details I entered were correct..
[23:01] <Shawn|i3-350M> well my details are correct
[23:01] <Shawn|i3-350M> I tried changing from client to access point, still no network movement
[23:05] <Shawn|i3-350M> why do they throw WPA and WPA2 into the same thing, that should not be done!
[23:06] <Shawn|i3-350M> it aint even trying to use WPA2
[23:09] <Shawn|i3-350M> I guess what the devs have changed betweeo 18.04 and 18.10 is extremely mysterious
[23:09] <Shawn|i3-350M> *between
[23:09] <Shawn|i3-350M> or beyond mystery
[23:10] <Shawn|i3-350M> is there something someone may want me to pastebin for helping me figure out?
[23:20] <Shawn|i3-350M> it says Security: wpa-psk, which is very incorrect
[23:26] <Shawn|i3-350M> I might as well downgrade, since I can't fix it
[23:29] <guiverc> sorry Shawn|i3-350M, I'm only sometimes around, but I rarely use wireless so have never learnt it (beyond the notes of what worked for me)
[23:30] <Shawn|i3-350M> oh -_-
[23:31] <Shawn|i3-350M> I tried using nmcli, and no avail either
[23:32] <guiverc> if you `lshw -C network` (list hardware class networking) does it look like you're using the correct 'driver' for your chipset; the same as detected & used by 18.04 for example (none of my current machines have wifi so I can't advise currently or compare)
[23:33] <guiverc> ps: you may need `sudo lshw -C network`


[01:54] <murmel> JanC: sounds to me like one more reason to use noscript ;) honestly most of the time my browser struggles to reach 2GB with something like 10 tabs
[01:55] <JanC> I have plenty more tabs than that, and many sites don't work without JS of course...
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> good morning


[03:06] <mIk3_08> anyone here?
[03:06] <mIk3_08> Thus Pilipinas is alive in ubuntu?
[10:54] <mIk3_08> anyone here?