[00:15] <Jakal> can i get tested for DCCExploit so i can get back into #ubuntu
[00:22] <LjL> sure
[00:23] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow, you were a near miss...
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> What did I miss
[00:23] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow: i was almost exploit testing you
[00:23] <LjL> Jakal, you're good
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> I am numb... not much can phase me at this point
[00:26] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, how is everyone?
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> We are all good thanks...   JUst stressed...
[00:26] <ompaul> :-) great stuff
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> exhausted and all that
[00:26] <ompaul> kick back and have a tea not coffee
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Good idea...
[00:27] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, you better sleep well cos for the next 18 years you won't ;-)
[00:28] <PriceChild> Has Jack_Sparrow shared some good news/
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Cute..  thankfully, in a few days they go home with their mother....  Wife and I will settle back into our lives...  Niece /adopted daughter has the chore for the next 18
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> 6 lb girl
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> everyone is doing fine
[00:29] <PriceChild> :)
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> we adopted all 5 of wifes sisters kids after their fathers helicopter went down many many years ago...  we did our part
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> May not be around much over the next couple weeks but will pop in and out when I can..
[00:46] <Jakal> oh thanks LjL
[00:51]  * tonyyarusso wonders why he fails so much with css...
[00:54] <tonyyarusso> methinks I don't understand the hierarchy of the cascade, mostly
[00:59] <ompaul> !supportroot
[00:59] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[01:01] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, can you show that to nickrud next time you see him
[01:01] <ompaul> please
[01:01] <ompaul> I fear I will be in bed before he comes back
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> if I remember, sure
[01:11] <ompaul> just kfwarded from #ubuntu have a look you will see why
[01:16] <nalioth> how lovely
[01:16] <ompaul> nalioth, thought you might so I did
[01:17] <ompaul> nalioth, obvious troll given then nick and the +Q
[01:18] <PriceChild> jimmygoon, wols_, can I help you?
[01:21] <jimmygoon> no, should I leave?
[01:22] <nalioth> jimmygoon: if you don't have immediate business here, please  :)
[01:23] <jimmygoon> okay
[01:53] <PriceChild> Hmm crashed like that a few times :/
[01:58] <PriceChild> I wonder if i remove that module i built for the media keys, if it'll stop
[02:13] <LjL> PriceChild: you haven't crashed for 12 minutes, want a forkbomb?
[02:14] <PriceChild> LjL, I thought I was just about to... lag going off the scale
[02:14] <PriceChild> Not sure what's the problem...
[02:14] <PriceChild> I think I've solved the computer hard locks after removing that module
[02:15]  * PriceChild touches wood
[02:15] <LjL> PriceChild: ping something and see if every packet goes through for a couple of minutes
[02:19] <PriceChild> LjL, wierd, lagging again now, but ping is working fine
[02:20] <PriceChild> i blame the wifeless network
[02:20] <PriceChild> gah
[02:20] <PriceChild> wireless
[02:20] <LjL> PriceChild: hm. check logs and VT for any lost interrupts or something...
[04:03] <crush_groove> hello .. I recieved the exploit msg and changed port to 8001 .. I am still getting the msg
[04:05] <crush_groove>  I have been using this same router since I have been coming onto the server .. some weeks now .. I havent seen this msg before ..
[04:05] <crush_groove> waits
[04:06] <nalioth> hi crush_groove
[04:06] <crush_groove> hello nalioth
[04:08] <nalioth> crush_groove: thanks for your patience, you can rejoin #ubuntu now
[04:08] <crush_groove> ty
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> We need help with ushdfgakk:    in ubuntu
[05:26] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: the irc council obviously had a private discussion abou tit
[05:27] <Amaranth> That's kind of scary
[05:27] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: htey have a mailing list.  like teh CC does
[05:41] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, we do have to weigh options in private to avoid having 10 others piping up and complicating things to the point where no decision gets made
[05:50] <Myrtti> tonyyarusso: nickrud is online ;-)
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> !supportroot > nickrud
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> that should work
[05:56] <Myrtti> I would've done it myself, but didn't know if you already had nor the necessary background
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> nope
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> and I'm off to bed now
[05:57] <Myrtti> sleep well
[06:05] <Myrtti> Taggard: did you have anything else than asking about ubuntu membership?
[06:44] <tritium> nalioth: Yurivilca is spamming multiple channels with political garbage.  Is possibly a bot...
[06:49] <Madpilot> I just banned him/it from #u & -offtopuc
[06:49] <Madpilot> offtopic, even
[07:01] <Myrtti> k-line him
[07:02] <Myrtti> now he's going thru loco channels
[07:05] <Myrtti> banned as a precaution from -women
[07:05] <ardchoille> I just banned him/it from #kubuntu
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> #kubuntu-devel seems to be next
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> !staff | Yurivilca<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:07] <ubotu> Yurivilca<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2 or Christel,  I could use a bit of your time :)
[07:08] <Myrtti> informed -irc
[07:08] <Myrtti> he visited -fi aleady :-C
[07:08] <Myrtti> didn't suspect it at all
[08:31] <ubotu> scguy318 called the ops in #ubuntu (hotsauce_drinker)
[09:09] <jussi01> LjL: just out of curiosity, who/what is metabot?
[09:13] <ompaul> jussi01, it is a bot that reads the questions and does strange stuff like paste them in its own channel - it parses questions and works out if they are questions comments or whatever - it has been around a long time
[09:14] <ardchoille> Sounds quite useful
[09:14] <jussi01> ompaul: ahh, thanks. :)
[09:14]  * Gary yawns
[09:14] <ompaul> ardchoille, I find it easier to sit in the channel and answer questions
[09:15] <ardchoille> Ah, true
[09:15] <ardchoille> I enjoy that too :)
[09:15]  * ompaul shoves two wheatabix and some warm milk into Gary and a coffee _ get to helping dude :P
[09:15] <Gary> I have a cold :'(
[09:15] <ardchoille> hehe
[09:16] <jussi01> hehe, there are some really funny factoids out there... :D
[09:16]  * ardchoille hands Gary an herbal tea with honey
[09:16] <ompaul> !supportroot
[09:16] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[09:16] <jussi01> !overshare | ompaul
[09:16] <ubotu> ompaul: Um thanks... We *really* did not need to know that...
[09:16] <ompaul> !botabuse | Jucato
[09:16] <ubotu> Jucato: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[09:16] <ompaul> !botabuse | jussi01
[09:17] <ubotu> jussi01: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[09:17] <ompaul> !enter | ompaul
[09:17] <jussi01> hehe
[09:17] <ompaul> jussi01, you know the story it pms me when I do that
[09:17] <Gary> !ompaul | ompaul
[09:17] <ubotu> ompaul: ompaul is well ompaul, don't get me started about that guy
[09:17] <ompaul> Gary, ya ya ya
[09:18] <jussi01> !pici | Gary
[09:18] <ubotu> Gary: pici is stuck in a factoid factory! Help!
[09:18] <Gary> lol
[09:18] <Gary> phew
[09:18] <Gary> no Gary or GazzaK's
[09:19] <jussi01> quick ompaul, add one!!
[09:19] <ompaul> !search gary
[09:19] <ubotu> Found: ops-#ubuntu-uk, hungary
[09:19] <jussi01> heh
[09:20] <Gary> woo I'm added to the ops in -uk, wow :p
[09:20]  * ompaul pokes jussi01 with a long stick
[09:21] <jussi01> !gary
[09:21] <Gary> how is hobbsee? :p
[09:21] <ubotu> Gary is as Gary does, on the other hand four fingers and a thumb!
[09:21] <ompaul> run forrest run
[09:21] <Gary> eh, that makes no sense
[09:21] <jussi01> !hobbsee
[09:21] <ubotu> I phear the stick so shhhhh
[09:21] <ompaul> Gary, it makes sense if you are not you
[09:22] <jussi01> !1337 | ompaul
[09:22] <ubotu> ompaul: 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[09:22] <Gary> ompaul, I just want to see hobbsee, as she keeps beating me up in here, as I could only get her back in -offtopic :p
[09:25] <jussi01> can we get the people who are actually op a voice in here? who can do that?
[09:26]  * jussi01 steals ompaul's stick and pokes him back
[09:27] <ompaul> best to get LjL to do that
[09:27] <ompaul> or pricey
[09:28] <Myrtti> I think I need more aliases with cool functions
[09:28] <jussi01> ahhh, cause it would be nice to know when people enter who are supposed to be here... and ardchoille could do wit a voice...
[09:28] <jussi01> Myrtti: hehe... like empcannon?
[09:29] <Myrtti> I've already got /crimson which also bans
[09:29] <jussi01> Myrtti: LOL
[09:29] <jussi01> poor crimsun...
[09:29] <ardchoille> Yes, give me voice please :)
[09:30]  * jussi01 kicks ardchoille ... shhh, Im asking for you... :P'
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> Myrtti: Shouldn't /crimson be more like /say There are many different factors involved in audio problems.  Unless you have clearly documented all of the chipset information under the sun, go away.
[09:30] <ardchoille> jussi01: Thank you
[09:31]  * jussi01 just noticed the difference between crimson and crimsun ...
[09:31] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: and that should be !crimsun
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> right...
[09:32] <jussi01> lol
[09:34] <Myrtti> tshih
[09:34]  * jussi01 is heading to ideapark today...
[09:35] <Myrtti> jussi01: HA-HA
[09:35] <jussi01> Myrtti: seriously...
[09:36] <Myrtti> jussi01: <evil snicker />
[09:36] <Gary> whats ideapark
[09:36] <Myrtti> jussi01: it's only halfway to Valkeakoski from Tampere
[09:37] <jussi01> Gary: http://www.ideapark.fi/opencms/opencms/ideapark/eng/index.html
[09:37] <Myrtti> the biggest shopping centre in the nordic countries, I think
[09:37] <jussi01> yeps
[09:37] <jussi01> Myrtti: thankfully I have a car,.... :)
[09:37] <jussi01> Myrtti: Im in Orivesi atm...
[09:38]  * Jucato scratches his head...
[09:38] <jussi01> Jucato: ??
[09:39] <Myrtti> and the post-Christmas sales start today
[09:39] <Jucato> jussi01: ompaul highlighted the wrong "ju" :)
[09:39] <Myrtti> jussi01: you must be out of your freaking mind
[09:39] <Myrtti> totally bonkers
[09:39] <jussi01> Myrtti: hehehe
[09:39] <Gary> nice
[09:39] <Myrtti> if you leave now, you might get a parkinglot
[09:40] <Myrtti> notice: *might*
[09:40] <Gary> I'm hiding indoors today
[09:40] <Gary> my damn throat is really bad :'(
[09:41] <Myrtti> ok, I renamed the alias to hellokitty
[09:42] <Gary> whats it do
[09:42] <Myrtti> /alias hellokitty say well now, you were warned, $0;/wait 200;/say /me takes her Hello Kitty® emp cannon, points at $0 and flips it on *BWUUUUUP*;/msg chanserv op $C $N;/wait 100;/quote remove $0 :*sssssspppppppffffKAAAABOOOMMMM*;/ban $0;/wait 50;/msg chanserv op $C -$N
[09:42] <Gary> oh dear :p
[09:42] <ompaul> Myrtti, kill me with it here :)
[09:43] <Myrtti> well now, you were warned, ompaul
[09:43] <Myrtti> /me takes her Hello Kitty® emp cannon, points at ompaul and flips it on *BWUUUUUP*
[09:43] <Myrtti> oh, it is.
[09:43] <Myrtti> *snif* This thing is heavy!
[09:43] <Myrtti> damn, not working
[09:43] <Myrtti> it's not?
[09:43]  * ompaul is here
[09:43] <Myrtti> it's not working.
[09:43] <ompaul> and now I talk
[09:43] <Myrtti> damn.
[09:44] <Gary> thats 'cos you have a voice
[09:44] <Myrtti> needs a fix
[09:44] <ompaul> ;-)
[09:44] <ompaul> Myrtti, do it in -offtopic
[09:44] <Myrtti> ah, channel missing
[09:45]  * jussi01 wishes he understood irssi theme files... they never do what I want them too...
[09:46] <ardchoille> jussi01: irss.org has some notes on that, those helped me when I wrote a few themes
[09:46] <Myrtti> default.theme has all you need
[09:47] <jussi01> ardchoille: hmmm, ok, Ill have another look through them.
[09:47] <ompaul> jussi01, can you see if you can help that <Volvagia356> in the mean time I have to go for a couple of hours
[09:47] <ompaul> or anyone else for that matter he may have some nasties waiting to jump him next is read his fstab if it fails
[09:47] <ompaul> gtg
[09:48] <Myrtti> *snif*
[09:48] <Gary> mwhahaha
[09:48] <Myrtti> sucks.
[09:48] <Gary> your /'s are showing
[09:48] <Gary> /me etc etc
[09:48] <jussi01> ardchoille: Im off soon also...
[09:48] <ardchoille> jussi01: Ok
[09:48] <jussi01> got to get a Parking spot...
[09:48] <jussi01> ;)
[09:49] <Myrtti> /me is very aware about them showing
[09:49] <Gary> Myrtti, can you lose the preceeding space?
[09:49] <Gary> give it another go, and i'll try to not remove you first?
[09:50] <Myrtti> Gary: preceeding space?
[09:50] <Tm_T> /me doesn't undestand what's this fuss is about
[09:50] <jussi01> Tm_T: ?
[09:50] <Myrtti> about my /hellokitty
[09:50] <Gary> the space before the /me ?
[09:50] <Myrtti> Gary dear
[09:50] <Myrtti> /alias me say /me
[09:50] <Myrtti> :-P
[09:50] <Myrtti> I've disabled it
[09:51] <Gary> ahhh
[09:51]  * Gary tickles Myrtti
[09:51] <Tm_T> Gary dear, you should not thread people with removing without proper reason, it's rude
[09:52]  * jussi01 goes... bye
[09:52] <Gary> Tm_T, I had reason :p
[09:52] <Myrtti> Tm_T: :-Å
[09:52] <Myrtti> jussi01: fairwell ;-)
[09:52] <jussi01> :D
[09:52] <Myrtti> farewell, even
[09:52] <Gary> it was me or her :-)  self defence
[09:52] <Myrtti> jussi01: I'll write you a nice necrologue on FullCircle
[09:53] <Tm_T> Myrtti: what's :-Å ?
[09:53] <Myrtti> a typo
[09:53] <Tm_T> I see
[09:57] <Gary> arghh, I'm to ill to figure out how to unban myself :'(
[10:00] <Myrtti> I unbanned you already
[10:00] <Myrtti> welcome back, luv
[10:00] <Tm_T> .
[10:03] <Gary> I am so not unbanned :p
[10:03] <Myrtti> I did!
[10:04] <Myrtti> swear to Gaia!
[10:04] <Myrtti> now?
[10:05] <Gary> Cannot join #Ubuntu-Offtopic (You are banned)
[10:10] <Myrtti> grrhhhmmm
[10:11] <tomaw> Thu 10:17:49 [freenode] [!] 0 - #ubuntu-offtopic: ban<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[by  Myrtti!i=myrtti@wikipedia/Myrtti, 1376 secs ago]
[10:11] <Myrtti> now?
[10:11] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[10:12] <Myrtti> @login
[10:12] <ubotu> OK
[10:14]  * Gary cries
[10:16] <Myrtti> it ... doesn't... show up... in ... bantracker
[10:17] <Myrtti> now I'm honestly saying WTF
[10:17] <Gary> lol
[10:18] <Myrtti> ok, this is why I don't do bans
[10:18] <Myrtti> /me removes all the banning aliases
[10:19] <Gary> yeah, alias' can be fun
[10:20] <ardchoille> Myrtti: auto_bleh.pl
[10:29] <ubotu> Jamesinator called the ops in #ubuntu (Amazing_139460)
[10:29] <Myrtti> he had already left
[11:29] <Jordan_U> Not sure why I am being forewarded to #ubuntu-read-topic, my router has never been susceptible to the DCC exploit before
[11:31] <Jordan_U> Can anyone unban test and unban me from #ubuntu?
[11:35] <Essope> how can i recover my password?\
[11:37] <Jordan_U> Essope, For your nick on freenode or for your computer? ( I assume the former )
[11:38] <Essope> Jordan_U: freenode
[11:38] <Essope> apparently it's not what i thought it was.
[11:39] <Gary> Essope, I can help you with that
[11:40] <Essope> ok
[11:43] <Jordan_U> Gary, Can you unban me from #ubuntu and hopefully tell me why I was banned? ( at least AFIK I have never been vulnerable to the DCC exploit )
[11:44] <Gary> Jordan_U, no, you will have to speak to a ubuntu* op
[11:45] <Essope> Essope: he's fine, please unban him
[11:45] <Essope> Gary: ^
[11:45] <Jordan_U> Essope, Gary isn't an ubuntu op apparently
[11:46] <Gary> I know he is, but I am not a ubuntu op, I could, but a ubuntu op should do unbans
[11:46]  * Essope sighs
[11:46] <Gary> ping Myrtti :-)
[11:47] <Myrtti> huh
[11:47] <Myrtti> *blink*
[11:47] <Jordan_U> Myrtti, Can you unban me from #ubuntu and hopefully tell me why I was banned? ( at least AFIK I have never been vulnerable to the DCC exploit )
[11:47] <Essope> Jordan_U: done
[11:47] <Essope> Jordan_U: was set by floodbot.  is that not obvious enough?
[11:48] <Myrtti> ok, I'm totally lost
[11:48] <Jordan_U> Essope, No, why was I banned by floodbot?
[11:48] <Myrtti> /me continues to read about taxation
[11:48]  * Essope would assume you were banned by floodbot, due to leaving with a specific quit message during the flood
[12:26] <Pici> !test
[12:26] <ubotu> Failed.
[14:05] <Pici> Gah, I look away for a minute and people are spamming.
[14:36] <ompaul> Pici, he is not coming back for a long time methinks
[14:40] <LjL> meagrees
[14:41] <ompaul> LjL, can you add a livingdaylight nick ban I can't remember the short hand on this box for it
[14:41] <ompaul> then we can remove the ip
[14:41] <ompaul> I have a real name ban
[14:42] <LjL> ompaul: meh, /ban livingdaylight!*@*
[14:42] <LjL> shortcuts are for losers y'know
[14:42] <Pici> I'll do the same in -offtopic.
[14:42] <ompaul> there is that
[14:42] <ompaul> Pici, +1
[14:45] <Pici> arg, banlist full
[14:45] <LjL> in offtopic, yeah
[14:47] <sysdef> how large is a +L banlist? unlimited?
[14:47] <Gary> sysdef, 500
[14:48]  * jussi01 arises from the dead...
[14:48] <sysdef> :O thx
[14:48] <ompaul> LjL, pm
[14:48]  * ompaul gets busy
[14:49] <Pici> ompaul: thanks, I think I lagged out while trying to query ubotu and unban simultaneously
[14:49] <ompaul> ack
[14:49] <jussi01> and, what, pray tell is a necrologue? sigh...
[14:50] <Gary> why don't you beg for a +L banlist for ubuntu* ?
[14:51] <ompaul> Gary, no way
[14:51] <ompaul> Gary, case by case basis only
[14:51] <ompaul> that would be nutx
[14:51] <Pici> +Ls are costly.
[14:51] <Gary> it'd get a bit unmanageble though
[14:52] <Pici> Forcing us to prune the bans isnt so terrible.
[14:53] <ompaul> there are layers and levels
[14:53] <Gary> yeah, you get rid of old ones to be sure
[14:53] <ompaul> Gary, not always
[14:53] <LjL> Pici, the bans in -offtopic are kind of non-redundant though
[14:53] <ompaul> there is one guy on the #ubuntu list
[14:53] <ompaul> who has been banned for over two years
[14:53] <Pici> LjL: Oh, indeed.
[14:53] <ompaul> he is on my personal list of ban on sight any channel
[14:54] <ompaul> that says #ubuntu*
[14:54] <Pici> Who is that?
[14:54] <ompaul> and the great thing is that cos of sagan no one knows except maybe nalioth and seveas
[14:55] <LjL> cyorxamp?
[14:55]  * ompaul feels his blood run cold
[14:55] <Gary> sore subject
[14:55]  * ompaul warms the plasma ray gun
[14:55] <Gary> too muh sci-fi channel ompaul
[14:55] <ompaul> and a few termo nuclear devices
[14:56]  * jussi01 is so fresh he has _no_ idea what this discussion is about...
[14:56] <ompaul> thermonuclear
[14:56] <ompaul> even
[14:56] <ompaul> jussi01, be happy
[14:56] <jussi01> :)
[14:56] <jussi01> ompaul: ^^
[14:56] <ompaul> the happy button
[14:56] <ompaul> jussi01, be happy
[14:56] <ompaul> hehe
[14:56] <jussi01> ^:D
[15:09] <GoldenPony> just ban Gary
[15:09] <Tm_T> .
[15:09] <Gary> i'll ban you good
[15:09] <jussi01> GoldenPony: what do you have against poor Gary ?
[15:10] <Gary> she fancies me but knows i'll never return the affection :p
[15:10] <Gary> now now
[15:10] <GoldenPony> whoever made him staff.  really!
[15:10] <Tm_T> erm
[15:11] <Tm_T> kids, behave
[15:11] <GoldenPony> jussi01: because he's a gazzak
[15:11] <jussi01> GoldenPony: hehe, ok
[15:11] <jussi01> LjL: ping?
[15:11] <Pici> gary is staff?
[15:11] <GoldenPony> jussi01: intercepted pong
[15:12] <GoldenPony> Pici: unfortunately
[15:12] <Tm_T> Pici: yes he's very stiff
[15:12] <Tm_T> and in stuff
[15:12] <GoldenPony> we should all become staff too
[15:12]  * Pici blinks
[15:12] <GoldenPony> then maybe someone will be able to approve the gcf
[15:12] <jussi01> GoldenPony: ok, just wanted to make sure ardchoille got a voice in here...
[15:13] <jussi01> !nickspam | NorwegianBlueDea
[15:13] <ubotu> NorwegianBlueDea: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[15:13] <Pici> Dead dead dead!
[15:14] <jussi01> :P
[15:14]  * jussi01 cries and repents...
[15:15] <Tm_T> kids, behave
[15:15]  * Pici hides in the corner
[15:15] <LongPointyStick> oy!  you stay away from that corner!
[15:15]  * LongPointyStick knows what you're hiding in that corner...
[15:15] <jussi01> !hobbsee | Pici
[15:15] <ubotu> Pici: I phear the stick so shhhhh
[15:16] <ompaul> LongPointyStick, howya doin anyway?
[15:16] <Pici> Good advice.
[15:16] <LongPointyStick> ompaul: dead.
[15:16] <PriceChild> oh dear
[15:16] <ompaul> LongPointyStick, not very convincing, care to nail yourself to a perch and hang upside down?  (mind you upside down --- you are in .au ,,.....)
[15:17] <LongPointyStick> i wish
[15:17]  * ompaul makes LongPointyStick a tea
[15:18]  * LongPointyStick does not drink tea.
[15:18] <LongPointyStick> depends what it's got in it though
[15:18]  * jussi01 hands LongPointyStick a long island iced tea...
[15:19] <Gary> bully :'( :p
[15:20] <ompaul> Gary, shadup
[15:20]  * Gary mutes Gary
[15:20] <LongPointyStick> poor Gary.
[15:21] <LongPointyStick> he so deserves it, though
[15:21] <ompaul> LongPointyStick, ohh stop it
[15:21] <ompaul> :)
[15:21] <ompaul> come along children have some tea and scones
[15:21]  * ompaul rofl
[15:22] <Gary> I tested stuff in my channel just after getting this cloak, and got told off by Phil :p
[15:22] <Dave2> :o
[15:22] <Dave2> how rude!
[15:22] <Gary> meh
[15:22] <Dave2> so much kicking :o
[15:23] <Gary> Dave2, yeah, tell her off then :p
[15:23] <LongPointyStick> oh, meh.
[15:23]  * LongPointyStick gives Gary a BOOT TO THE HEAD.
[15:23]  * Gary parts :p
[15:24] <LongPointyStick> oh dear.  we lost him.
[15:24] <ompaul> LongPointyStick why not remove some bugs ;-)
[15:24] <LongPointyStick> who to abuse now?
[15:24]  * LongPointyStick already did some
[15:24] <ompaul> abuse lp and remove more
[15:25] <ompaul> go for the highest level of one line fixes in one day
[15:25] <ompaul> or something
[15:25] <LongPointyStick> hmmm
[15:25] <jussi01> LongPointyStick: go fix bug 1
[15:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[15:25] <LongPointyStick><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:25] <LongPointyStick>  status fix released
[15:25] <LongPointyStick>  status fixreleased
[15:26] <ompaul> you wish
[15:26] <jpatrick> don't we all
[15:26] <jussi01> LongPointyStick: is there a reasoin you are up at this ungodly hour?
[15:26] <LongPointyStick>  status wontfix is better?
[15:26] <LongPointyStick> jussi01: i'm dead, therefore have no concept of time.
[15:26] <ompaul> na
[15:27]  * LongPointyStick is about to go to the restaurant at the end of the universe.
[15:27] <jussi01> LongPointyStick: heh..
[15:27] <ompaul> status temp patch
[15:27] <Pici> Belgium!
[15:27] <LongPointyStick> the fjiords of norway!
[15:27] <ompaul> Pici, if it was not so true it would be funny
[15:27] <LongPointyStick> the fjords of norway!
[15:27] <ompaul> LongPointyStick, pining for the fjords
[15:27] <LongPointyStick> yup
[15:27] <Pici> Poor Slartibartfast
[15:28] <ompaul> no actually he was very well paid
[15:28] <LongPointyStick> in sleep?
[15:29] <ompaul> sleep 5million years
[15:29] <ompaul> where is the cost in that
[15:29] <ompaul> only the mice could afford it
[15:30] <Pici> I hope he had a good rate on his savings account
[15:30] <ompaul> hehehe
[15:31] <jussi01> grrr... I hate my memory...
[15:32] <jussi01> whats the command to list the ops in a channel... :( I cant find it in /help (or at least dont recognise it)
[15:32] <LjL>  /cs access #channel list
[15:32] <Pici> jussi01: the current ops? or people who have access?
[15:32] <Pici> /names -ops works too in irssi, (for current ops)
[15:32] <jussi01> Pici: all those who have access...
[15:33] <Pici> jussi01: listen to LjL
[15:33] <jussi01> LjL: yeah, thats what i was looking for
[15:33] <jussi01> thanks
[15:33]  * jussi01 goes and writes it down...
[15:33] <LjL> there is no command to list people with +o in a channel, pici's is irssi specific. of course /names works though
[15:34] <jussi01> LjL: as I use irssi, all is well ;)
[15:35] <ompaul> LjL, to list who are opped or have the ability?
[15:35] <LjL> ompaul: there is no command to list those who are opped. there definitely is a command to see who's got the ability, /cs access list
[15:36] <Pici> ompaul: You missed it, it was /names -ops for irssi
[15:36] <ompaul> ack
[15:36] <ompaul> I had the internet broke on my end
[15:55] <Pici> hot_girl, aka Greg Moore back in #ubuntu fyi.
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> YEa, I see him
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning pici
[15:57] <Pici> well, I wasn't telling just you, but good morning as well :)
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> I know you were not telling anyone in particular...
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Just waking up here waiting for coffee to perk
[16:43] <Myrtti> ach
[16:45] <Seeker`> lo
[16:45] <Pici> Welcome back
[16:47] <Myrtti> thanks
[16:48] <Myrtti> I almost got an IRC hangover
[16:48] <Myrtti> then I came for some pickmeup ;-)
[16:48] <Seeker`> an IRC hangover?
[16:48] <Myrtti> an addict is an addict
[16:55] <Myrtti> I feel so pathetic :-P
[16:57] <Pici> :(
[16:57] <somerville32> I dream about IRC when I sleep
[16:57] <somerville32> I kid you not
[16:57] <somerville32> I have IRC conversations in my sleep
[16:57] <somerville32> and it is _disturbing_
[16:58] <Myrtti> ok, somerville32...
[16:58] <Pici> I've done the same thing.
[16:58] <Myrtti> you just proved I'm not a basket case :-P
[16:58] <somerville32> The weird thing is that they're so _real_
[16:58] <somerville32> I can remember them when I wake up
[16:58] <somerville32> and I can clearly read the text and everything in my dream
[17:00] <jpatrick> somerville32: a dream is more powerful than a 1000 experiences
[17:00] <somerville32> I also work on packages and stuff in my dreams. It is boring watching packages compile while you sleep :S
[17:00] <somerville32> I often wake up from boredom
[17:01] <Myrtti> on the other hand
[17:01] <Myrtti> I don't remember seeing any dreams
[17:05] <jpatrick> how do I /remove from irssi?
[17:05] <PriceChild> somerville32, i think you need to get out more
[17:05] <Myrtti> /quote remove nick :reason
[17:05] <jpatrick> ah, thanks
[17:05] <PriceChild> jpatrick, /quote remove nick...... meh Myrtti
[17:05] <Pici> Yes
[17:05] <Myrtti> might want to do an alias for it
[17:05] <Pici> /quote remove $0:$1
[17:06] <somerville32> PriceChild, Yea. I haven't dreamt about IRC/Ubuntu since last week when I started doing holiday stuff, haha
[17:06] <Myrtti> /alias remove quote remove $0:$1
[17:06]  * somerville32 no longer spends his days chatting on IRC, packaging, and hacking on Python 2.6 and 3.0 - he actually talks to people *cheers*
[17:07] <Myrtti> somerville32: so you've got my past life and I've got yours
[17:07] <PriceChild> well then i think you need to talk to some different people if you're still dreaming of packaging and irc
[17:17] <jussi01> Myrtti: I came back alive ;)
[17:17] <Myrtti> ohmy
[17:17] <Myrtti> was it horrible?
[17:18] <jussi01> Myrtti: actually no - it was busy, but not _busy_
[17:18] <jussi01> Myrtti: we had a park withing about, mmm, 1 min?
[17:18] <jussi01> -g
[17:19] <jussi01> only thing was I didnt buy what I went for... :P
[17:19] <Myrtti> haha
[17:19] <jussi01> ended up coming home with like 1 million rockets....
[17:20] <jussi01> and not the radio controlled aircraft I was supposed to get...
[18:02] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !timevault is <reply> TimeVault is a graphical backup tool for GNOME. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeVault and http://launchpad.net/TimeVault
[18:03] <PriceChild> !timevault is <reply> TimeVault is a graphical backup tool for GNOME. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeVault
[18:03] <ubotu> But timevault already means something else!
[18:03] <PriceChild> !timevault
[18:03] <Pici> ...
[18:03] <ubotu> TimeVault is a graphical backup tool for GNOME. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeVault and http://launchpad.net/TimeVault
[18:04]  * Pici larts spec
[18:04] <PriceChild> wait a minute...
[18:04] <jussi01> Pici: what do you think about root_ in #k ? seems to be coming and going all the time, and ircing as root...
[18:05] <Pici> Yes, Spec has editor privleges, I dont know why.
[18:05] <MenZa> jussi01: ouch
[18:05] <Pici> jussi01: probably clueless
[18:05]  * jussi01 sighs
[18:06]  * MenZa giggles.
[18:06] <MenZa> That's a pretty bad mistake.
[18:06]  * Pici facepalms @ #ubuntu
[18:06] <nalioth> jussi01: it is not your place to govern other people
[18:07] <jussi01> nalioth: ok
[18:08] <nalioth> we should look for behaviour that goes against our policies
[18:08] <jussi01> nalioth: a good point.
[18:08] <Pici> jussi01: throw them a rootirc perhaps, but beyond that there really isnt anything we can do.
[18:09] <jussi01> Pici: done
[18:09] <nalioth> how do you know that he didn't just put "root" in his 'real name' field, just to screw with all the "we must protect you from yourself" type people?
[18:10] <nalioth> there is far too much tending to other peoples business in this world
[18:10] <nalioth> if it's not hurting anybody, let it be
[18:10] <Pici> We dont.
[18:10] <nalioth> you are trying to 'protect root from ircing as root" OHH SOO DANGEROUS!!!
[18:11] <nalioth> it's his box
[18:11]  * Pici gives nalioth a cookie
[18:11] <nalioth> if it starts spouting crapola, then we action it
[18:11] <nalioth> if not, leave the user alone
[18:12] <LjL> nalioth, people doing stupid things are root impact *me* and *my* computer. zombie machines anyone?
[18:12] <LjL> s/are/as/
[18:12] <nalioth> LjL: read what i said.  windows machines don't count
[18:16] <LjL> nalioth: like irc wars shell accounts are on windows machines, huh?
[18:16]  * jussi01 crawls into a corner
[18:16] <Pici> wols: Would it be possible for you to be nicer to our users?  They are not all computer experts.    Often they are confused and aren't sure of the correct technical terms to use.
[18:17] <nalioth> LjL: those get klined permanently (and rarely will you see "root" from a shell account)
[18:17] <LjL> nalioth: no, but the shell account was obtained by hacking the unix box of someone who didn't give a crap about security
[18:18] <jpatrick> jussi01: "root_" told me he is still setting up his system
[18:18] <Pici> I'm not siding with any particular party here, but I've seen my share of people ircing from irssi on a singler user session because they dont know any better.
[18:18] <jussi01> jpatrick: ahh, ok
[18:20] <nalioth> actions speak louder than words (or nicks or idents)
[18:20] <nalioth> all i'm saying
[18:21]  * Pici actions
[18:46]  * Pici needs a break
[18:47] <jussi01> wth? intelikey with root?
[18:51] <Myrtti> what, where, who, how
[18:52]  * jussi01 hugs Myrtti ... ( #k )
[18:54] <ompaul> jussi01, wel he is banned from #ubuntu or should be
[18:54] <Myrtti> that nickname tickles my nervous system somehow
[18:54] <Myrtti> ah
[18:55] <jussi01> ompaul: why? ( I thought he has been helpful previously)
[18:55] <ompaul> did he not attack someone earlier today?
[18:55]  * ompaul scrolls back
[18:55] <ompaul> I could be confused but don't think so
[18:55] <Pici> I think you banned him yesterday ompaul
[18:56] <jussi01> ompaul: hmmm, weird, Ive always seen him as a helpful guy.
[18:57] <ompaul> bantracker is slllllllow
[18:57] <Myrtti> it is
[18:58] <Myrtti> like a limping sloth
[18:58] <Pici> Ooh.. very descriptive
[18:58] <Myrtti> I'm the master of visual descriptions
[18:58] <Myrtti> especially if they're about pain
[18:58] <ompaul> Myrtti, hehe
[18:59] <Pici> Ooh, do one.
[18:59] <Myrtti> like the headace I get when I don't wear my glasses
[18:59] <Myrtti> feels like someone tries to dig up my eye with a spoon dipped in liquid nitrogen first
[18:59] <jussi01> Myrtti: OUch!
[18:59] <ompaul> jussi01, he came on with a nice bit of piracy rubbish
[19:00] <ompaul> so I asked once and banned once
[19:00] <ompaul> you should have known better would not have cut it
[19:00] <jussi01> ompaul: ahh, ok then.
[19:16] <ikonia> evening gents
[19:16] <Pici> Afternoon ikonia
[19:16] <ikonia> hi Pici
[19:17] <ikonia> I hope everyone has had a delightful christmas break
[19:17] <Pici> I had 1 day off.
[19:17] <ikonia> 1 is better than none
[19:17] <Pici> Indeed.
[19:17] <ikonia> I trust is was a good one
[19:17] <Pici> Very relaxing nonetheless
[19:18] <ikonia> excellent, thats great to hear
[19:18] <ikonia> just as it should be at christmas
[19:32] <PriceChild> Yay random extra € & $ keys are working
[19:32] <Pici> I think we need a macedonia loco team, or somewhere to punt all these people
[19:32] <ompaul> €€€€€ lots of it
[19:33] <ikonia> do you have a big need for euro keys ?
[19:33] <PriceChild> Now all I have left is the webcam which'll never work, and the multimedia keys which have been hardlocking the machine when I add the module
[19:34] <PriceChild> ikonia, nope... but they were there not working... so I made them work
[19:34] <ikonia> very nice
[19:34] <ikonia> PriceChild: do you have a seperate key for £, $ and Euro ?
[19:34] <ikonia> or have you replaced a £ for euro ?
[19:34] <Pici> PriceChild: Did dumpkeys work? or did you do something else?
[19:34] <PriceChild> I tell a lie... the module doesn't hardlock the machine... but it seems that the machine eventually hardlocks when only if the module is loaded
[19:34] <PriceChild> Pici, xev and xmodmap... easier than I thought
[19:35] <Pici> !-supportroot
[19:35] <ubotu> supportroot has no aliases - added by ompaul on 2007-12-27 01:59:26
[19:35] <Pici> !-noroot
[19:35] <ubotu> noroot has no aliases - added by ompaul on 2007-06-23 15:35:34
[19:35] <PriceChild> only tricky thing was working out a € is "EuroSign"
[19:35] <Pici> ompaul: duplicating yourself?
[19:35] <ompaul> no
[19:35] <ompaul> we had not told nickrud afik
[19:36] <Pici> Well, which do you like more, because I think both factoids should point to the same thing.
[19:38] <ompaul> !noroot
[19:38] <ubotu> Regardless of your choice: Please do not advise against user security policy and create a root password, please see !rootsudo
[19:38] <ompaul> !forget noroot
[19:38] <ubotu> I'll forget that, ompaul
[19:39] <ompaul> they do different jobs
[19:39] <ompaul> and one if them is now redundant
[19:39] <ompaul> Pici, get out of the factoid factory please :)
[19:49] <ikonia> is there an FAQ page in the online documentation
[19:50] <Pici> ikonia: #ubuntu /topic perhaps?
[19:50] <ikonia> eg: each ubuntu release has a set of common questions, such as the intel sound card issues, compiz etc etc.
[19:50] <Pici> Oh.
[19:50] <ikonia> nah, the common questions are more ubuntu specific
[19:50] <ikonia> rather than release specific
[19:50] <jussi01> ikonia: the release notes?
[19:50] <ikonia> jussi01: not quite what I had in mind
[19:51] <ikonia> I'm considering writing a common fix page for gutsy
[19:51] <ikonia> just wondering if anything existed
[19:51] <ikonia> I've seen a load of guys make a mess of the intel sound driver / alsa
[19:51] <ikonia> and a few other things
[19:51] <ikonia> it's only a thought prompted by a user post in #ubuntu just now
[19:51] <ikonia> just wondering if anything exists
[19:52] <jussi01> ikonia: Im sure there is more
[19:52] <ikonia> yeah, I would expect there to be one, but I've just been glancing and couldn't see one
[19:52] <jussi01> cant think of it at the moment tho
[19:52] <ikonia> no, no, thats fine.
[19:52] <ikonia> nice if there is one to update rather than start from scratch.
[19:54] <jussi01> ikonia: understandably...
[19:54] <ikonia> I'll continue browsing
[20:07] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !vimtutor is <reply> vimtutor is an excellent tool for learning how to use vim. It can be found in the vim-full package, among others.
[20:08] <Pici> you're already here.
[20:08] <MenZa> I am ?
[20:08] <MenZa> :(
[20:08] <MenZa> irssi bothers me right now. Doesn't join all my channels. h8.
[20:08] <MenZa> :<
[20:09] <MenZa> brb
[20:10] <Pici> !vimtutor is <reply> vimtutor is an excellent tool for learning how to use vim. It can be found in the vim-full package, among others.
[20:10] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Pici
[20:15] <PriceChild> right so acerhk loaded, lets see if the lappy locks randomly after being fine all day
[20:16]  * MenZa nibbles Pici
[20:20] <Daviey> MenZa: Clearly irssi is joining the ones worth being in :)
[20:22] <LjL> Pici: making life complicated 101? :P
[20:22] <LjL> (i guess, if you use vim...)
[20:22] <Pici> LjL: I didnt do it!
[20:23] <LjL> Pici: no but i was talking about the factoid
[20:23] <LjL> !no vimtutor is an excellent tool for learning how to use vim. It can be found in the vim-full package, among others.
[20:23] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[20:23] <MenZa> Daviey: not #latex or #ubuntu-ops :(
[20:23] <Pricey> Guess what happenned :)
[20:23] <Pici> Pricey: You randomly locked?
[20:23] <LjL> Pricey: you stumbled on the power cable?
[20:23]  * Pricey awards Pici 10 brownie points
[20:24] <Pici> Yay, brownies.
[20:24]  * Pricey steals all LjL's brownie points
[20:25]  * LjL didn't have any
[20:25] <Pricey> sucks to be you
[20:31] <Gary> sucks to be him too, keeps on kicking his lan cable out
[20:33] <LjL> indeed
[20:47] <ubotu> graft called the ops in #ubuntu (^^barbi^^)
[20:47] <ikonia> little help in ubuntu please.
[20:47] <ikonia> ^^barbi^^ being a pain, flooding with random
[20:48] <crdlb> that's the second time he's been removed today btw
[20:49] <Myrtti> next one will surely be worth a ban
[20:49] <ikonia> and he's back
[20:49] <ikonia> doing the same again
[20:49] <ikonia> thank you
[20:49] <Myrtti> there, see?
[20:49] <Myrtti> ;-)
[21:02] <jussi01> hello Seveas :)
[21:02] <ardchoille> hi Seveas
[21:03] <LjL> hi-light seveas
[21:03] <Seveas> ola
[21:03] <jussi01> heehe
[21:04] <MenZa> evening Seveas
[21:04] <Gary> oh no it's Seveas
[21:10] <Myrtti> not tonight dear, I've got a headache
[21:10] <Amaranth> *cough*
[21:10] <Amaranth> That reminds me of a joke
[21:11] <Amaranth> Guy walks into the bedroom carrying a glass of water and two aspirin, his wife asks "What's that for?" "Your headache", he says. "But I don't have a headache." "Gotcha!"
[21:11] <MenZa> hahahahaha
[21:11] <ardchoille> lol
[21:11] <ardchoille> Amaranth: Good one
[21:11] <Seveas> :D
[21:12] <jussi01> Ok, Im a little unsure of protocol here, we have a guy in #k (plukin) who is joining an parting many times (maybe ~20 in 15 mins) - its quietend off now, but Id like to know for next time.
[21:12] <Myrtti> ask him if he's got a problem with the connection
[21:12] <Amaranth> jussi01: Did it look like connection problems?
[21:12] <Myrtti> or if he's trying out a irc client script or like?
[21:13] <jpatrick> "Client quit"
[21:13] <jpatrick> jussi01: i'd !away
[21:13] <Amaranth> So he was screwing with something
[21:13] <Myrtti> ^
[21:13] <Myrtti> or if he'd need som ehelp with his client
[21:13] <jussi01> ok.
[21:13] <Myrtti> I'd assume good faith first :-)
[21:13] <Myrtti> good will, even
[21:13] <Myrtti> Idunno
[21:14] <Myrtti> let me get that aspirin
[21:14] <MenZa> This is where it would look really bad if I did a /me hands Myrtti an aspirin, right?
[21:15] <Myrtti> dear, I've got my stash of drugs always with me
[21:15] <Myrtti> traveling sickness pills, allergy, headache, whatnot.
[21:17] <ikonia> guys total bad language freak in #ubuntu
[21:18] <ubotu> Flare183 called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[21:18] <MenZa> ahh, the beauty of !ops
[21:18] <Myrtti> if only they'd use the pipe
[21:19] <Dave2> it has beauty?
[21:19]  * MenZa always does that.
[21:19] <MenZa> wtf
[21:19] <MenZa> a Dave2 in MAH ubuntus?
[21:19] <Dave2> I've been here for quite a while, y'know
[21:19] <MenZa> Still feels wrong :(
[21:19] <Gary> good things always feel wrong
[21:19] <Dave2> pft.
[21:20] <Myrtti> I'm not particularly happy with the conduct of one JimmyDee (currently ClutzyDee) at -ot
[21:21] <Myrtti> he's tiptoeing on the border of !o4o all the time
[21:21] <Myrtti> on the edge, even
[21:23] <Myrtti> and probably just me being tiresome old windbag complainin about irrelevant things
[21:38] <jussi01> LjL: having bot issues?
[21:39] <LjL> who me?
[21:40] <jussi01> LjL: bestbot has joined and left from #k several times...
[22:08] <ikonia> anyone free to keep an eye on what's going on in #ubuntu
[22:08]  * PriceChild looks
[22:09] <ikonia> thanks ! keep an eye on naudiz
[22:10] <ikonia> thanks, the advice he was giving out was too dangerous
[22:10] <LjL> [23:10:07] <naudiz> thanks you just made me decide to uninstall ubuntu and to install Fedora 8
[22:10] <LjL> [23:10:14] <naudiz> You dumb asshole
[22:10] <ikonia> great,
[22:10] <Pici> People are so rude
[22:10] <ikonia> let #fedora deal with him
[22:10] <Myrtti> that reminds me of someone last week
[22:10] <ikonia> yes, people are rude for no reason apart from being a child.
[22:12] <Gary> fedora 8 is out, great, I'm outta here :p
[22:14] <Gary> :'(
[22:14] <Gary> don't do that, please, i'll get told off :p
[22:14] <ompaul> Gary, then don't troll :P
[22:14]  * ompaul runs
[22:15] <LjL> Gary: do you think that really encourages me to stop doing it?
[22:15] <Gary> LjL, but think of the cloak being kicked into other channels eh
[22:16] <LjL> Gary: meh, i hadn't even noticed the cloak before i kicked you. and, good excuse to be in one more channel to monitor. hope you haven't parted yet.
[22:16] <Gary> I did, they scared me :p
[22:16]  * LjL barely keeps from laughing at gary's cloak anyway
[22:16] <PriceChild> Gary, you'd get told off for being kicked?!
[22:16] <Gary> PriceChild, no idea :p
[22:17] <PriceChild> LjL, well there you go then
[22:17] <LjL> yeah... well, i guess he gets told off for anything and everything
[22:17] <LjL> PriceChild: still thinking of responding to the blog appeal? :)
[22:17] <Myrtti> /me tries to cuddle up in her own cloak and shivers
[22:17] <LjL> i'm not
[22:18] <PriceChild> hehe
[22:18] <PriceChild> I can see you turning into a good nalioth, LjL.
[22:19] <LjL> PriceChild: maybe, but it would require being told off *by* nalioth some 1000 times before achieving that. and, he still manages to do that *anyway*, so...
[22:19] <PriceChild> Hehe I think he's given up on telling me off now :)
[22:20] <Gary> nalioth makes a good teacher :p
[22:20]  * Gary sucks up
[22:56] <danzigrules> Could someone help/tell me why I am bannned from #ubuntu? Thank you kindly
[22:57] <LjL> second
[22:57] <LjL> Gary: ok, my turn to refresh now
[22:58] <LjL> 2007-12-27T16:46:17 <ompaul> !test
[22:58] <LjL> 2007-12-27T16:46:17 <danzigrules> [ Rule 3 ] I did a very good job ;p
[22:58] <Pici> !test
[22:58] <LjL> danzigrules: bots and talking scripts aren't allowed in #ubuntu
[22:58] <ubotu> Failed.
[22:58] <danzigrules> [ Rule 2 ] Mark needed me to fix his script
[22:58] <danzigrules> ok. I didn't even know I had that still on, thats what I get for helping friends out.
[22:59] <danzigrules> I will look for it
[22:59] <danzigrules> thank you much
[22:59] <LjL> danzigrules: i'll unban you when you tell me it's disabled
[23:01] <danzigrules> I believe it is off
[23:01] <ompaul> !test
[23:01] <ubotu> Failed.
[23:01] <ompaul> looks like it is
[23:02] <ompaul> danzigrules, the ban is lifted
[23:02] <danzigrules> Sorry about that, Thank you
[23:03] <ikonia> really nice to see someone apologise then say thank you
[23:03] <Gary> yeah
[23:03] <Gary> I got thanked loads today :-)
[23:04] <ikonia> arn't you the lucky one
[23:04] <LjL> Gary: unthanks
[23:04] <Gary> mind you, all mine are for cloaks, so it is when the users want you to do something for them
[23:06] <LjL> Gary: can you give me a cloak for my bot? i don't remember the bot's name though, but i remember it's registered by someone else. oh and i don't want to give anyone my email. by the way, could you make me an op in a channel i've never joined?
[23:06] <Gary> LjL, sure thing
[23:07] <ikonia> Gary: please make my dinner while you are taking requests
[23:07] <Gary> yeah, I do get a lot of spam too
[23:08] <LjL> gary, can you unban me from efnet?
[23:08]  * Gary gives up :'(
[23:12] <rob> /msg efnet please unban LjL
[23:12] <LjL> wow, *that* guy must get a lot of spam.
[23:12] <rob> I guess :)
[23:13] <rob> but thats about a freenode staffer's limit of power on efnet
[23:14] <tomaw> LjL: unban you on efnet?
[23:14] <LjL> tomaw, i'm perfectly free to enter efnet, i was just fooling around with gary :P
[23:14] <tomaw> bah :(
[23:14] <tomaw> I thought there could be some interesting story about you getting yourself glined
[23:16] <LjL> well, i used to be unable to join several networks (especially IRCNet) due to my ISP being silly and giving me a NAT IP instead of real IP of my own
[23:16] <LjL> but that's not even the case anymore most of the time
[23:16] <tomaw> ah
[23:30] <nalioth> LjL: we DO have requests from folks to unban them from other networks
[23:32] <LjL> nalioth: yes, i've seen that in #fn
[23:39] <tomaw> we also sometimes have the contacts to see them through ;)
[23:56] <Rufus_> the other channel said to ask to be tested?
[23:56] <Rufus_> im sure that its fixed now


[00:25] <temperature> How to enable cpufreq on 8.10 server. "$cpufreq-info" gives " analyzing CPU 7:
[00:25] <temperature>   no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU"
[00:28] <MatBoy> mhh, ubuntu has an old clamav :S
[00:35] <giovani> MatBoy: distributions don't release instant updates -- the scanner doesn't need to be new ... it's the signatures that do
[01:38]  * Nafallo wonders how much he'll loose in speed to install a cgi php rather than a module.
[01:38] <ScottK> MatBoy: What release are you on?
[01:38] <Nafallo> hardy
[01:38] <Nafallo> drupal box.
[01:38] <ScottK> Current clamav is in hardy-backports
[01:38] <Nafallo> oh
[01:39] <Nafallo> that wasn't for me :-P
[01:39] <ScottK> No, that's why I said MatBoy.
[01:39] <ScottK> ;-)
[01:39] <Nafallo> yea. just require me reading as well ;-)
[01:41]  * Nafallo looks at the manually selected packages he have and frowns
[01:41] <Nafallo> drupal5, php5-cgi, php5-pgsql, postgresql, postgresql-client-8.3
[01:42] <Nafallo> I should probably check into suphp as well, no?
[01:44] <Nafallo> god damn postfix... jesus.
[01:49] <hads> Language
[02:08] <temperature> anybody any idea why cpu temp raises 10° just from upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 server?
[02:10] <stainer> there is a bug about temps https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/67906
[02:29] <giovani> Nafallo: what's wrong with postfix?
[02:31] <lamont> Nafallo: it's called Reverse Polar Notation, not postfix. :-p
[02:31] <Nafallo> giovani: drupal requires and MTA for whatever random reason ;-)
[02:31] <Nafallo> lamont: ha! :-P
[02:31] <giovani> why on earth would you use drupal?
[02:31] <giovani> it's awful
[02:31] <Nafallo> lamont: I wanted to ask you about something anyway!
[02:32] <Nafallo> giovani: because my customer wants it.
[02:32] <giovani> get better customers
[02:32] <Nafallo> lamont: still around?
[02:32] <giovani> or convince them not to use it
[02:32] <Nafallo> giovani: *shrugs* do not care.
[02:34] <temperature> anybody know how to get coufreq running on 64-bit xeons? Other than recompiling the kernel I find no answer through google.
[02:38] <giovani> temperature: referencing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/163398 ?
[02:38] <giovani> seems it's just passed down from the debian kernel -- since there's a debian bug for the same problem
[02:38] <temperature> ....
[02:38] <giovani> enough people have confirmed it that it's clearly just a bug ... either wait for it to get fixed, or, like you said, compile your own kernel
[02:38] <ScottK> giovani: We don't get our kernel from Debian.
[02:39] <giovani> ScottK: kernel patches aren't copied from debian at all?
[02:39] <ScottK> It may be from time to time, but Ubuntu takes it's kernel from upstream directly.
[02:40] <ScottK> We're generally on a newer version of the kernel than they are.
[02:40] <giovani> newer than what's in sid?
[02:40] <giovani> anyway, it's here in debian as well: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=489058
[02:41] <giovani> the official cpufreq site states xeon support from what I can tell -- so it seems odd the same bug would be present in both if it's not an upstream bug
[02:41] <giovani> just what I could find, do with it what you will :)
[02:42] <ScottK> Could be an upstream bug in common.
[02:42] <lamont> Nafallo: sup?
[02:42] <lamont> bouncing back and forth
[02:43] <Nafallo> lamont: on the master dns server. I can use the same database file for multiple zones, right? :-)
[02:43] <Nafallo> lamont: it's the same data in them anyway :-)
[02:43] <lamont> same file?
[02:43] <lamont> see named.conf.local in the deb. :-p
[02:43] <Nafallo> lamont: same zone file :-)
[02:43] <lamont> all rfc1918 zones share 'db.empty'
[02:43] <Nafallo> ah. fair enough :-)
[02:43] <temperature> well...  I'll tell my customer ;-)
[02:48] <lamont> dig ns mmjgroup.com <-- I had to tell my registrar to make the .no host happy
[02:49] <Nafallo> gaah. your damn domains just remind me I'm lacking IPv6 still :-P
[02:53]  * Nafallo slapped a one-liner in terms of xhtml ;-)
[02:56] <lamont> giggle
[02:57]  * lamont goes back to the movie
[03:53] <AJ247> is ther a minimalist DM for ubuntu running 640MB ram?
[03:57] <hads> DM?
[04:06] <giovani> hads: Desktop Manager, I presume
[04:06] <giovani> AJ247: XFCE is widely chosen for being pretty lean, yet featureful, and not "ugly" like many people feel options like fluxbox are
[04:07] <giovani> xubuntu packages XFCE automatically, of course you can install the packages on another install
[04:07] <hads> screen :)
[04:07] <AJ247> giovani: yes.
[04:08] <giovani> AJ247: is something like XFCE what you're looking for?
[04:08] <AJ247> Yes. XFCE will be fine.
[04:09] <AJ247> how do i install on ubunut-server?
[04:09] <giovani> AJ247: the easiest way would be to 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[04:09] <AJ247> Alrihght.
[04:09] <giovani> which will essentially "convert" your minimalist server install to a full xubuntu install
[04:09] <giovani> you can, however, install individual xfce packages manually if you want
[04:10] <giovani> in the future, you can do a xubuntu install initially using this: http://www.xubuntu.org/
[04:10] <AJ247> Well, i only have 640MB installed, so im looking for performance
[04:11] <giovani> is this system to be used as a server, or as a desktop?
[04:11] <AJ247> Server
[04:11] <giovani> then why do you want a graphical interface?
[04:11] <ScottK> But help with dealing with Xfce is OT here.
[04:11] <giovani> there's no advantage on a server install
[04:11] <AJ247> to easily manage via command line
[04:12] <hads> huh?
[04:12] <giovani> AJ247: I recommend you look at remotely managing your server via ssh from a desktop -- it'll give you the option of virtual terminals within a gui -- without bloating your server
[04:13] <AJ247> i have, im using putty.
[04:13] <giovani> then that's the best way to manage your server -- do not install a gui of any kind
[04:13] <AJ247> well i was just thinking if it would be best to do so, thank you.
[04:14] <giovani> ok, the answer is definitely not :)
[04:14] <giovani> good luck
[04:14] <AJ247> lol
[04:14] <AJ247> ?question,
[04:14] <AJ247> do you know how to clear mbr from a hard drive?
[04:16] <giovani> be careful, but dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/XXX bs=512 count=1
[04:16] <giovani> replace XXX with your HD device
[04:17]  * giovani &
[04:18] <AJ247> k.
[04:22] <mrUnagi> can anyone help me with info on vpns?
[04:22] <twb> giovani: that will kill the partition table, too
[04:22] <twb> giovani: you want bs=446 or so
[04:23] <mrUnagi> =/
[04:33] <JanC> twb: as the partition table is part of the MBR, that shouldn't be a surprise  ;)
[04:34] <giovani> twb: yeah ... MBR = 512
[04:35] <Deeps> a lot of people dont realise the partition table is part of the MBR
[04:36] <Deeps> the kind of people that would ask in here, for example, may not realise that
[04:36] <danny723> anyone home?
[04:37] <giovani> danny723: plenty, as you can see
[04:42]  * lamont has been home for about 2 hours
[05:56] <danny723> hello
[07:05] <twb> JanC: well sure, but I'd want the reader to be sure they wanted to blow away the partition table, and not just the bootloader.
[09:20] <substr> hi, is ubuntu-9.04.2-server stable enough to use it in a soho environment?
[10:47] <twb> substr: there's no simple answer to that question.
[10:49] <twb> substr: by stability, do you mean "will it crash", or "will it receive feature updates (which tend to introduce bugs)", or "can I 'deploy and forget' in three-year cycles" or something else?
[10:50] <twb> Are you comparing it to, say, Microsoft SBS, or Debian, or OpenBSD?
[10:51] <twb> *I* wouldn't be too worried about an Ubuntu server, but the guy who sits next to me worries because (unlike RHEL) Ubuntu doesn't have a "proven track record" in the server space, and Canonical clearly places first priority on the desktop.
[10:52] <twb> ...but then I have enough Debian experience to fix most issues I encounter.
[13:42] <cemc> any good bittorrent tracker in ubuntu hardy?
[14:09] <substr> twb: sorry, I was away when you answered..
[14:10] <substr> well.. my first task is to set up a small fileserver. later on it might also get used as database server and whatever will be needed further on
[14:12] <substr> thinking about which distibution to choose, my first ifea was gentoo because its very tiny.. but even hard to setup
[14:14] <substr> next idea was kubuntu, because im using it on my workstation and its very fast and easy to setup... but due to the old hardware I actualy got its running very slow
[14:14] <substr> (i tried with the live-cd)
[14:15] <substr> so im looking for something thats not too hard to setup and even small enough to run on crappy hardware
[14:47] <gkahla> anyone know if Alfresco's compatibility issues will be fixed with 9.04 server edition?
[14:47] <gkahla> or, for that matter, what the exact compatibility issues are?
[14:48] <gkahla> Alfresco won't work on 8.10
[16:41] <danny723> hey guys
[16:56] <sozob> help...I am new to server...I just installed ubuntu x64 and I really wanted gnome..just no games/gimp/openoffice/etc. Is there a good way to add gnome/synaptic/gpanel-goodies to the ubuntu server?  I am going to add virtualbox to the machine so I will need all that stuff.  I also want to add firefox..but that is about it....Thank you.
[17:00] <giovani> sozob: you can install the individual packages
[17:01] <giovani> but there's no easy metapackage that won't install the other utilities you'd like to avoid
[17:02] <Deeps> and it's also off topic, GUI related stuff is best asked in #ubuntu
[17:02] <sozob> darn...thanks...
[17:02] <giovani> well, but the question is in reference to a server install, and adding packages to it?
[17:02] <giovani> but ok
[17:02] <sozob> thats why I tried here
[17:02] <sozob> ;)
[17:02] <ScottK> giovani: Once you talk about Gnome, you aren't talking about Server.
[17:03] <ScottK> err sozob...
[17:04] <sozob> theres lots of services that a server could be used for that would need a gui....
[17:05] <giovani> sozob: not really
[17:05] <sozob> websphere has a gui
[17:06] <giovani> that's required?
[17:06] <giovani> just because a product offers a gui doesn't mean that it's recommended
[17:06] <sozob> all the installs I've done require it
[17:07] <sozob> no matter the os
[17:07] <giovani> and what graphics toolkit does it use?
[17:07] <sozob> well it uses java, which uses....
[17:07] <giovani> what a mess
[17:07] <giovani> use rhel then
[17:07] <giovani> they like guis on their servers
[17:07] <sozob> no...I like ubuntu
[17:08] <sozob> ;)
[17:08] <sozob> no worries, I will get it going...I may be better off starting at desktop...yuck!!!!
[17:08] <giovani> well you can install a gui on top of ubuntu server ... but nobody here recommends it
[17:09] <sozob> i am sure you don't
[17:09] <sozob> i don't either
[17:09] <sozob> but there are occasions
[17:09] <Deeps> recommended or not, GUIs are outside the scope of this channel, and you're better served asking in #ubuntu
[17:09] <sozob> wonder if the server kernel will play nice with all that "desktop"ish stuff on it....any ideas
[17:13] <danny723> sup
[18:15] <slogger_> hi, I installed ubuntu server 8.10 yesterday, added bare minimum X to system so I could look stuff up on websites while configuring
[18:15] <slogger_> The groups listed for my user by the id command are different depending on whether I'm logged in a VT or a gui.
[18:16] <slogger_> Namely, under GUI, my membership in the group 'users' is not recognized
[18:16] <slogger_> While it is from the VT terminals
[18:17] <slogger_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1083539
[18:21] <Deeps> slogger_: GUI related issues are off topic here, and are best served in #ubuntu
[18:22] <slogger_> okay, I thought it might be related to using server version, but I'll check #ubuntu, though they usually just post links to stupid wiki pages I've already looked at.
[18:25] <Noah0504> Should I take the time to upgrade my server box from 256MB of RAM to 512MB?
[18:27] <giovani> Noah0504: if you want to, sure
[18:28] <Noah0504> Well, I have the RAM, but don't really feel like pulling it out.  Ha.  I know last night it stopped responding to the network.  It's headless, so I don't really know what was happening.  I did have rTorrent running though.  I thought maybe it was a RAM issue and it wasn't liking life.
[18:29] <giovani> sigh ... well, nobody here has a magic 8 ball
[18:29] <giovani> so that's simply up to yo
[18:29] <giovani> you*
[18:29] <Noah0504> Ha.  Perhaps I was just looking for the motivation.
[18:29] <Noah0504> :)
[18:39] <cemc> Noah0504: run a memtest
[19:09] <yann2> nijaba > thx for rabbitmq in jaunty, very good idea :)
[20:56] <Derander> I've completely borked up my mysql install to the point where I want to start over completely.  Is there a way to get aptitude to reinstall the original test & mysql tables?
[21:21] <MatBoy> what are you guys doing with dcc on intrepid ? it's not in there anymore ofcourse
[21:29] <giovani> not using it
[21:29] <giovani> although it is odd, unless there's a specific reason that it's disappeared
[21:30] <giovani> oh, I see -- it's a security issue
[21:34] <Davedan2> what are ppa packages and is it safe to use them? for example: https://launchpad.net/~onestone/+archive/ppa
[21:35] <giovani> Davedan2: Personal Package Archie
[21:35] <giovani> Archive*
[21:35] <cemc> Davedan2: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[21:35] <giovani> they're totally unsupported by ubuntu, they're packages built by the user you see in the url, use them if you like, but, they're "unofficial"
[21:36] <cemc> maybe not the best link...
[21:36] <Davedan2> giovani: thanks. ubuntu packages are great but sometime take months to get updated... :(
[21:37] <giovani> Davedan2: there are reasons behind those policies, newer software often introduces new, untested code, with a higher probability of security vulnerabilities in it
[21:37] <giovani> it's a delicate balancing act -- you have to decide what risks you're comfortable with
[21:37] <Davedan2> ok
[21:38] <giovani> as a general rule of thumb, unless you need a feature/bugfix that's only present in the newer release, there's no good reason to be using a newer release
[21:40] <Davedan2> giovani: I developed a module that works with the newer release but didn't know it'll take months to have a package
[21:40] <giovani> Davedan2: most distributions use a policy of only fixing bugs once there's a release
[21:40] <giovani> since there's a release every 6 months in Ubuntu (roughly) ... the software is usually pretty new
[21:41] <Davedan2>  giovani: so maybe I can count on jaunty
[21:41] <giovani> you can look up what upstream version is in use in jaunty
[21:41] <giovani> what package is this?
[21:41] <MatBoy> giovani: ok :)
[21:42] <Davedan2> ejabberd
[21:42] <Davedan2> on Jaunty it is the latest
[21:42] <MatBoy> giovani: I thought it was a "closed source" issue
[21:44] <giovani> MatBoy: ah, did the license change? I found reference via google that it was related to a bugfix that couldn't be backported
[21:44] <giovani> (at least for debian)
[21:44] <giovani> dantalizing: intrepid includes 2.0.1 -- seems quite new to me
[21:44] <MatBoy> so it should also for ubuntu I guess in that case
[21:44] <giovani> err, Davedan2
[21:44] <MatBoy> intrepid also includes the new clamav... finally :)
[21:45] <giovani> Davedan2: the newest release is 2.0.3 which jaunty does include, yes
[21:45] <giovani> you wrote a module that will only work with 2.0.3 but not 2.0.1?
[21:45] <Davedan2>  giovani: yes
[21:46] <giovani> heh
[21:46] <giovani> ok
[21:46] <giovani> maybe you'd be better off running a source-based distro :)
[21:46] <Davedan2>  giovani: I'll build it from source and use the package when Jaunty is up. probably take some months
[21:46] <giovani> jaunty is up
[21:46] <Davedan2>  giovani: thanks
[21:46] <giovani> it's in alpha
[21:46] <giovani> you can try to use the package -- but be ready for potential dependency messes
[21:47] <Davedan2> giovani: from experience using alpha means alot of truble
[21:47] <MatBoy> giovani: source based ?? man gentoo suck big time... perios
[21:47] <MatBoy> *period
[21:47] <giovani> MatBoy: not if you want the absolute newest versions of everything -- then it's quite ideal
[21:47] <giovani> or desire a lot of fine-grained control
[21:48] <MatBoy> hehe, fine-frainded ? we don't live in the 386 time anymore :)
[21:48] <MatBoy> bleeding edge :S
[21:48] <giovani> I know a number of enterprises using gentoo in large clusters
[21:48] <giovani> they see benefit in it
[21:48] <MatBoy> I also... hyves
[21:48] <giovani> and their admins are not inexperienced in the least
[21:48] <MatBoy> with 2200 servers :S
[21:48] <Davedan2> but we live in the web 2.0 times...
[21:48] <MatBoy> hehe
[21:48] <giovani> Davedan2: ... what does web 2.0 have to do with anything?
[21:49] <giovani> "bleeding-edge" is relative
[21:49] <MatBoy> not with gentoo
[21:49] <giovani> many upstreams do a lot of careful bug-checking before releases -- many do not
[21:49] <MatBoy> whole gentoo is bleeding edge
[21:49] <giovani> you can't generalize
[21:49] <Davedan2> giovani: everything moves fast so you can't wait 6 months for a package when a new feature is already out
[21:49] <giovani> it's all dependent on the upstream
[21:49] <MatBoy> nah, not really
[21:50] <giovani> yep
[21:50] <giovani> for all of our security software (read: snort), we HAVE to have the latest, yesterday bug fix
[21:50] <MatBoy> version issues between packages are not upstream dependent
[21:50] <giovani> so, we make our own packages
[21:50] <MatBoy> hehe, how relative is that ?
[21:50] <MatBoy> making a deb is not difficult at all :D
[21:50] <MatBoy> rpm the same
[21:50] <giovani> how relative?
[21:51] <giovani> who said it was difficult?
[21:51] <giovani> maybe you're misunderstanding me
[21:51] <MatBoy> yes, all people that say "we make our own packages" most of the time say this because they think everyone uses debs because they can't install a system
[21:51] <giovani> all people that say?
[21:51] <giovani> you need to learn to stop generalizing
[21:51] <MatBoy> no reallyu
[21:52] <MatBoy> not here in general;
[21:52] <MatBoy> but centos is like it
[21:52] <MatBoy> gentoo
[21:52] <MatBoy> uhm
[21:52] <MatBoy> the users there :)
[21:52] <MatBoy> in #vmware we don't even support gentoo :)
[21:52] <MatBoy> bbl.. need to fix an issue
[23:00] <cemc> what's the correct way to change the editor crontab -e uses?
[23:00] <cemc> the default is nano on my Hardy but I would like vi
[23:01] <cemc> man says the $EDITOR or $VISUAL gets used, or if those aren't defined, /usr/bin/editor is used (which is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/editor -> nano)
[23:01] <MatBoy> cemc: just edit crontab with vi ?
[23:01] <cemc> I could do that, of course. but I would like to try the correct way :)
[23:02] <cemc> with crontab -u <user> -e
[23:02] <MatBoy> ah ok
[23:02] <MatBoy> you need to do it for users
[23:02] <MatBoy> mhh
[23:02] <MatBoy> I like nano so much :)
[23:02] <cemc> yep. not the main /etc/crontab
[23:04] <MatBoy> aha, sounds logical
[23:05] <cemc> ok, I've got it
[23:05] <cemc> update-alternatives --config editor
[23:05] <MatBoy> :)
[23:05] <MatBoy> ah nice
[23:05] <cemc> and you can select from the available installed editors
[23:06] <MatBoy> aha :)
[23:06] <MatBoy> hehe, I'm figuring out how to use amavis using mysql
[23:06] <MatBoy> :S
[23:06] <cemc> ;)
[23:06] <cemc> maybe you wanna try maia mailguard
[23:07] <cemc> = amavis + spamassasin + mysql + some web gui to manage it
[23:08] <MatBoy> no, no maia !!
[23:08] <MatBoy> ouch
[23:08] <cemc> ;)
[23:08] <MatBoy> webavis is nicer
[23:08] <MatBoy> but, I can't find any docs how amavis pulls it's info from a db
[23:09] <MatBoy> amavis already runs
[23:09] <hads> If you want it system wide then update-alternatives, per user then use the VISUAL/EDITOR env vars
[23:09] <twb> Of course, you don't need antivirus scanners in the first place unless you have Windows users...
[23:10] <cemc> MatBoy: http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/README.sql.txt - maybe this will help ?
[23:10] <MatBoy> cemc: that might do :)
[23:10] <MatBoy> even google didn't came up with that !
[23:10] <MatBoy> thanks !
[23:47] <Davedan2> when building a software from source using ./configure, make, make install    do I need to be root and use sudo ?
[23:48] <cemc> Davedan2: I think you only need to be root when doing 'make install', and only if you're installing somewhere a normal user does not have write access to
[23:49] <ScottK> Davedan2: It generally works out better if you learn enough to package stuff for yourself so you can use the packaging system even for self done stuff.
[23:49] <Davedan2>  cemc: is it better to create a package locally instead with sudo checkinstall -D make install
[23:49] <Davedan2> sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[23:51] <Davedan2>  ScottK: how do you package a source?
[23:51] <ScottK> That's a whole discipline of it's own.
[23:51] <ScottK> !packagingguide
[23:51] <ScottK> Has information on it.
[23:52] <Davedan2> thanks


[01:05] <ventrik> Scott
[01:05] <ventrik> It was me
[01:06] <ventrik> ScottL sorry, didn't see that L lol.
[23:36] <peregrinator_six> Good night virtu. \o/
[23:52] <virtu> hi


[13:39] <dmart> Hi all ... can anyone update me on the new builds on the Dove platform?  NCommander was having a GCC internal error problem a few days ago...
[13:41] <ogra> he didnt expand on that and i dont think he actually looked into it
[13:42] <ogra> he went on a long thanksgiving weekend
[13:42] <ogra> so no new info (from him at least) before monday
[13:45] <dmart> Since we don't have one of those boards here right now, I was wondering if one could be set up for remote access?  It could be useful if the bug proves to be stubborn.
[16:48] <Shirase> hi everybody
[16:49] <Shirase> could I install ubuntu in the lg viewty?
[22:25] <yigal> has anyone here succesfully gotten a "usb" touch screen to work
[22:26] <yigal> I'm attempting to get a t91mt's touchscreen working
[22:26] <yigal> I found that unlike the t91 where hal picks the screen up as evtouch the multitouch touch screen appears as a usb device
[22:27] <yigal> I've loaded usbtouchscreen
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