[00:00] <minus_> yagoo, Thanks!
[00:01] <yagoo> ctl-z doesnt turn it off.. if u want to see list of background apps in bash.. "jobs" shows..
[00:01] <he||phyre> hey everybody
[00:01] <minus_> yagoo, I see. Awesome.
[00:03] <yagoo> (ctl-z suspends, application is frozen) .. but if you want to kill if you can use "kill -9 <processid>" for what its worth..
[00:03] <minus_> yagoo, Is there a way to put programs in the background wihtout suspending them?
[00:04] <yagoo> minus_, if u typed ctl-z, you can type "bg %#" (# as for the number from the jobs list)
[00:04] <th0r> minus_: bg?
[00:04] <minus_> yagoo, I actually looked in top to see if mencoder was stuck in something. But I guess I didn't look hard enough :P
[00:04] <yagoo> (type "help fg" or "help bg" .. fg/bg are bash-builtin commands)
[00:04] <minus_> yagoo, th0r: I'll try that out.
[00:05] <yagoo> minus_, i believe u can type "bg <command>" as well...
[00:05] <minus_> Damn.. How have I missed the "help" command.  Now that is something :D
[00:08] <minus_> yagoo, too bad mplayer had 6758 rows :P
[00:08] <yagoo> minus_, /usr/share/doc/packagename is also locations where there can be examples for example -- (mencoder package is it?-- /usr/share/doc/mencoder)
[00:08] <allowoverride> what is the hotkey/cmd to pull up gnome panel without a mouse? to select with keybrd? i forgot lol thanks!
[00:08] <intel_ix> Is there anyone who can tell me how to check if the root.disk file is damaged, and/or how to fix it from windows.
[00:09] <yagoo> allowoverride, look up your keyboard shortcuts.. should be in there.. it may be ctl-esc or with superwin key
[00:09] <Kopiko> Hi - I have a computer with Ubuntu Server 10.04 running on it with CSF, but weird things are happening.
[00:09] <Kopiko> For example, even if I specify port 7465 in UDP_OUT in /etc/csf/csf.conf, it still gets blocked and shows up in
[00:09] <Kopiko> ./var/log/messages.
[00:09] <Kopiko> Does anyone know why?
[00:09] <yagoo> intel_ix, screwn windows.. just boot the ubuntu grub livecd and do an e2fsck
[00:09] <allowoverride> yagoo: um, thats on the panel
[00:10] <nightrid3r> allowoverride so just explain your mouse doesn't work
[00:10] <allowoverride> someone know its for sure, i asked about a year ago lol
[00:10] <yagoo> allowoverride, no clue.. maybe look up anything to do with 'accessibility'
[00:10] <allowoverride> its a simple hotkey, its like standard, my gawd
[00:10] <allowoverride> i just forgot it
[00:10] <yagoo> allowoverride, then that's old a year.. something else for sure must of come along the way
[00:11] <allowoverride> yagoo: you obviously dont know it, anyone else
[00:11] <worstadmin> allowoverride, Love that name
[00:11] <yagoo> allowoverride, well X is for mice primarily.. so i dont see how you are expecting anyone to know
[00:11] <yagoo> to not use the mouse.. people look into "accessibility" features..
[00:12] <allowoverride> welp, its not fnc-esc lol. thats puts desktop to sleep lolol
[00:12] <allowoverride> worstadmin: yours too ;)
[00:12] <allowoverride> its from apache conf
[00:12] <minus_> allowoverride, What do you mean by "pull up gnome panel" ?
[00:12] <kiichiro> How do I set it up so my xubuntu box doesn't have a login screen and set it up so teamviewer automatically opens upon startup
[00:12] <allowoverride> yes minus without a mouse, its my screen is too big lol
[00:13] <allowoverride> actually that reminds me, there is also a hotkey for window size something +
[00:13] <allowoverride> ugh... i should right this stuff down
[00:13] <allowoverride> i used to have a cmd book, but i lost it during last move
[00:13] <allowoverride> maybe page up/down
[00:13] <yagoo> allowoverride, you're swarming with the wrong things.. you said it was a year ago. Maybe it's not in ubuntu anymore. I'd say you ask in #gnome..
[00:13] <minus_> allowoverride, Hang on. I'll check if there is a keyboard shortcut somewhere
[00:14] <allowoverride> thanks
[00:14] <minus_> allowoverride, Do you have a menubutton on your keyboard?
[00:14] <minus_> should be between alt-gr and right-ctrl
[00:14] <allowoverride> its like a standard hotkey, kinda like cntrl-P ya know
[00:14] <minus_> ok
[00:14] <allowoverride> gr?
[00:14] <allowoverride> greece?
[00:14] <allowoverride> heheh
[00:15] <grell> hey
[00:15] <allowoverride> ctrl-alt arrows move between desktops
[00:15] <grell> hi there!
[00:15] <minus_> allowoverride, ctrl-alt-tab?
[00:15] <allowoverride> im looking for what pulls up the gnome menu so ican mouse around
[00:15] <minus_> "move between the panel and the desktop"
[00:15] <allowoverride> nope
[00:15] <allowoverride> that moves between open windows
[00:16] <grell> hey someone there knows how to install de phpmychat?!
[00:16] <minus_> allowoverride, You sure? When I press ctrl-alt-tab, I can go to the panel
[00:16] <allowoverride> actually so does alt-tab then shirft to go backwards
[00:16] <grell> hey someone there knows how to install de phpmychat?!
[00:16] <szal> !repeat | grell
[00:16] <allowoverride> nope, not me
[00:16]  * yagoo thinks allowoverride is asking on how to set "focus" on the panel.
[00:16] <allowoverride> its lke ctrl esc f1 something like that
[00:16] <yagoo> Yah there's a shortcut for that.. if you asked the question properly..
[00:17] <allowoverride> with alt--F2 where can i find window for mappings per suggestion earlier
[00:17] <grell> Oh well
[00:17] <yagoo> allowoverride, alt-d, or maybe ctl-d tapped twice
[00:17] <kiichiro> How do I set it up so my xubuntu box doesn't have a login screen and set it up so teamviewer automatically opens upon startup
[00:17] <allowoverride> nope that will close a window
[00:17] <allowoverride> or shell
[00:17] <grell> see you!
[00:17] <minus_> I can at least focus the panel with ctrl-alt-tab
[00:17] <allowoverride> good greif
[00:17] <allowoverride> ill be back
[00:17] <yagoo> allowoverride, look at your keyboard list
[00:18] <yagoo> as i said long long long ago
[00:18] <minus_> Though: I'm running JoliOS which is built on Ubuntu
[00:18] <allowoverride> yagoo: thats on the friggen panel,,, silly
[00:18] <allowoverride> lolol
[00:18] <yagoo> allowoverride, can you confirm my belief what you want?
[00:18] <yagoo> allowoverride, you want "focus" on the panel or not?
[00:18] <allowoverride> for furture ref
[00:18] <allowoverride> http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/2289.html
[00:18] <minus_> allowoverride, You could always press alt-f2 and start gnome-control-center
[00:19] <yagoo> allowoverride, cuse u sure aren't asking the question properly
[00:19] <minus_> and check your own keyboard binds
[00:19] <allowoverride> ok, just so you all know who didnt,,, its alt-F1 try it ;) thats what i wanted
[00:19] <allowoverride> im out, l8
[00:19] <minus_> alt-f1 starts a terminal for me
[00:20] <minus_> that doesn't really "focus" the panel
[00:20] <minus_> o.O
[00:20] <yagoo> minus_, i think he was trolling
[00:20] <yagoo> lol
[00:20] <yagoo> told him twice to check his own keyboard settings
[00:20] <Centallith> Ctrl+alt+f2 start Superterm. Ubuntu's master terminal.
[00:22] <BDR> ??bison
[00:24] <BDR> !info bison
[00:24] <quittix3> hello, I need help with something on ubuntu. I've downloaded testdisk from here: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download And I don't know how to start it up and use it. How do I?
[00:25] <jimubao> what is a good ide for php development on ubuntu ?
[00:25] <leeloo_> I have something writing to my SSD at 300k/s and cannot find what file it is - tried iotop, iostat, etc.  Any ideas?
[00:26] <szal> !info testdisk
[00:26] <goober12> q
[00:27] <szal> quittix3: forget about your download & run 'sudo apt-get install testdisk'
[00:28] <szal> quittix3: rule #1: when looking for software, first look in your favourite package management application
[00:28] <quittix3> When I do it gives me this: :~$ sudo apt-get install testdisk Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package testdisk
[00:29] <van7hu> hello
[00:29] <van7hu> could my dell machine run ubuntu?
[00:29] <szal> quittix3: what *buntu version?
[00:29] <quittix3> 11
[00:30] <quittix3> is testdisk compatible with 11? I have an old ubuntu 9 live cd around somewhere if it isnt compatible with the newer version
[00:31] <fuho> quit
[00:32] <DynamicFail> i'm currently unable to update my system
[00:33] <sorak> anybody know whats up with Realplayer? i think i need it to make hangouts on google+ work, but their site says its discontinued. very unhappy.
[00:33] <DynamicFail> Not all updates can be installed
[00:33] <ctmjr> quittix3, you need to add the universe repo to get testdisk
[00:33] <quittix3> I have that enabled\
[00:33]  * szal finds it highly unlikely that some install would come w/ universe not enabled
[00:34] <szal> van7hu: "Dell machine" is a wide field comprising a host of different hardware from >20 years of manufacturing history
[00:35] <ctmjr> szal, then he is screwing up some where else it is in universe and he cannot install it where would you start
[00:35] <kierge> how do i both download and upload photos to and from facebook using ubuntu ?
[00:35] <Barnabas> kierge, using FireFox?
[00:36] <kierge> Barnabas, thank you.  what extension ?
[00:36] <Barnabas> kierge, why would you need an extension for uploading a picture ?
[00:37] <szal> quittix3: 'grep -i universe /etc/apt/sources.list' -> paste to pastebin
[00:37] <kiichiro> How do I set it up so my xubuntu box doesn't have a login screen and set it up so teamviewer automatically opens upon startup
[00:38] <szal> kiichiro: define 'doesn't have a login screen'
[00:38] <kiichiro> doesn't require a login
[00:38] <quittix3> szal: what do you mean by pastebin?
[00:39] <szal> !paste | quittix3
[00:39] <th0r> kiichiro: under System-LoginWindow set up for an automatic logon. Then put teamviewer in the autostart programs for the user that is automatically logged on.
[00:40] <quittix3> you want me to type grep -i universe /etc/apt/sources.list into that patebin thing?
[00:40] <kiichiro> it says show the screen for choosing who will login, has log in as (gray box) automatically
[00:41] <szal> quittix3: lol, no, what use would that have..
[00:41] <quittix3> oh nvm into the terminal then paste what it teels me into pastebin
[00:41] <Barnabas> quittix3, ctrl+alt+t
[00:41] <th0r> kiichiro: on the Security tab check Enable Automatic Login and then choose the user
[00:41] <szal> quittix3: I want you to type that in the terminal & paste the output (preferably including what you entered) into the pastebin
[00:42] <Barnabas> a black box will appear called a terminal
[00:42] <Barnabas> type it in there
[00:42] <RenatoSilva> how to exclude filters in synaptic? exclude button doesn't work, so I need to hack into the files...
[00:42] <Barnabas> paste the output to pastebin
[00:42] <szal> Barnabas: unnecessary effort, he already had a terminal open for apt-get ;)
[00:42] <Barnabas> ok
[00:42] <Barnabas> anyways
[00:42] <kiichiro> how do I find the security tab?
[00:42] <Barnabas> he did not seem to realize :-)
[00:43] <Infernet> hey all
[00:43] <th0r> kiichiro: under System-LoginWindow set up for an automatic logon.
[00:43] <szal> quittix3: then give us the URL the pastebin gives you
[00:43] <quittix3> ok, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/646128/
[00:44] <kiichiro> There is a gray box under the auto login
[00:44] <kiichiro> how do I find the security tab to allow me to set that account for autologin
[00:44] <KM0201> quittix3: what are you tring to do?
[00:45] <szal> quittix3: unusually condensed, but should work, unless there is a maximum number of arguments apt can parse as repository descriptors
[00:45] <quittix3> KM0201: im trying to install testdisk
[00:45] <KM0201> !info testdisk
[00:45] <szal> KM0201: apparently his apt system doesn't find the package, even though universe is enabled
[00:45] <szal> !info testdisk maverick
[00:45] <KM0201> szal: way i look at it, universe is NOT enabled
[00:46] <szal> KM0201: see the upper half of the paste
[00:46] <ctmjr> gee go figure
[00:46] <KM0201> hmm, thats wierd, its in there twice
[00:46] <szal> ctmjr: ?
[00:47] <szal> KM0201: I suspect someone manipulated the sources.list by hand; it's not the default appearance, afaik
[00:47] <KM0201> quittix3: try removing all the # signs you see there, and see if that will let you install it
[00:47] <KM0201> szal: definitely
[00:47] <Barnabas> apt-get update then upgrade
[00:48] <KM0201> ?
[00:48] <Barnabas> after editing the sources.list
[00:48] <szal> Barnabas: why upgrade?
[00:48] <Barnabas> or apt-get install
[00:48] <KM0201> Barnabas: well, yeah... apt-get update.. i did forget that, then apt-get install testdisk
[00:49] <Barnabas> anyways, if anything new turns up the auto update tool will pick up on it anyways
[00:49] <quittix3> KM0201: What # signs and where?
[00:49] <KM0201> quittix3: you don't see the # signs in that paste?
[00:49] <quittix3> yes
[00:49] <KM0201> quittix3: all the ones in front of a line that starts with "deb"
[00:49] <kiichiro> on the system login I cannot choose my account to auto sign in
[00:49] <quittix3> what about them?
[00:49]  * pappa_bear Joins and waves hello!
[00:49] <sputnick> hi there
[00:49] <BDR> thanks ctmjr and others for your help over the last few days - I'll come back once I can reintroduce myself to Linux + Internet connection.
[00:49] <KM0201> quittix3: remove the # signs... (nothing else) then run sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install testdisk
[00:50] <sputnick> anyone can send me the output of "ping acsid.net" please ?
[00:50] <szal> KM0201, quittix3: well, yes, the whitespace following the # as well
[00:50] <sputnick> doesn't work @home
[00:50] <ministerdude> is there a trick to doing a straight instal/dual boot of windows?
[00:50] <quittix3> KM0201: What # signs? Where do you want me to get rid of them from?
[00:50] <KM0201> szal: that shouldn't be necessary
[00:51] <KM0201> quittix3: are you looking at your pastebin you gave us?
[00:51] <pappa_bear> can someone tell me where the X configuration file is?
[00:51] <quittix3> yes
[00:51] <KM0201> quittix3: do you see lines 10-15, how there's a # sign, at the beginning of each line?
[00:51] <szal> sputnick: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/acsid.net
[00:51] <quittix3> yes, i do
[00:51] <KM0201> quittix3: you need to delete those pound signs.
[00:51] <Barnabas> sputnick, unreachable from here
[00:51] <zackary> hey
[00:51] <sputnick> thnaks szal
[00:51] <zackary> hello
[00:51] <quittix3> ok
[00:52] <KM0201> (and the space, which is a good point)... so that it lines up w/ the ones above)
[00:52] <sputnick> thnaks Barnabas
[00:52] <Barnabas> have you enabled ICMP ping to your router
[00:52] <sputnick> not sure
[00:52] <KM0201> quittix3: are you saying you dont know how to do that
[00:52] <sputnick> I will purge iptables
[00:52] <kiichiro> I'm at the login screen and am wondering how to set my account to auto login, I set it to not ask for password
[00:52] <arfbtwn> sputnick: same as Barnabas' result, though I get an IP reply for it
[00:52] <jipsy> how to have two sata in one computer?
[00:52] <arfbtwn> sputnick: starting to get replies now
[00:52] <Barnabas> sputnick, IP too here
[00:52] <KM0201> kiichiro: that's under "Login Window"...
[00:53] <Barnabas> but without an ICMP allow a ping is not possible
[00:53] <arfbtwn> 64 bytes from ns38938.ovh.net (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_req=84 ttl=50 time=71.7 ms
[00:53] <szal> pappa_bear: unless you have installed a proprietary driver, X is configured on-the-fly & usually doesn't have a configuration file..  if it does have one, however, it's either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or split into several files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[00:53] <Barnabas> eventough web / ftp may be open
[00:53] <KM0201> sputnick: i get nothing...
[00:53] <Barnabas> or other
[00:53] <kiichiro> I don't have a thing under system called login window
[00:53] <kiichiro> I only have a login screen
[00:53] <sputnick> arfbtwn can ping oO
[00:53] <KM0201> kiichiro: ... ok, then login screen
[00:53] <kiichiro> this is while signed in under the system tab
[00:53] <quittix3> KM0201: I dont see how this will help, but here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/646131/
[00:54] <jipsy> how to have 2 sata in one computer?
[00:54] <KM0201> quittix3: now, sudo apt-get update
[00:54] <sputnick> arfbtwn: do you have dnsmasq or such ?
[00:54] <ministerdude> How do I partition my drive for a dual boot?
[00:54] <kiichiro> it will not let me select my own account for auto login
[00:54] <KM0201> quittix3: wait a second... did you remove the #sign from your source list, or from the pastebin?
[00:54] <centHOGG> ministerdude: you got paypal?
[00:54] <ministerdude> I do... why
[00:54] <arfbtwn> sputnick: I'm behind a wireless router, so it's just talking to Orange's DNS servers
[00:54] <quittix3> pastebin
[00:54] <szal> centHOGG: what's that question for?
[00:54] <KM0201> quittix3: lol.. thats a good one..
[00:54] <centHOGG> hire me :)
[00:54] <seahunter> can someone point me in the right direction for reading material for linux+ certification by chance???
[00:55] <KM0201> quittix3: you need to remove the # signs from your source list!
[00:55] <arfbtwn> sputnick: I get a response from ssh too
[00:55] <Barnabas> sputnick, perhaps its a DNS setup change that have not replicated globally yet
[00:55] <jipsy> how to connect two sata in one computer?
[00:55] <quittix3> I cant..
[00:55] <sputnick> Barnabas: no change made
[00:55] <aeon-ltd> jipsy: two sata what?
[00:55] <quittix3> i just typed in "
[00:55] <KM0201> ..
[00:55] <KM0201> quittix3: why can't you?
[00:55] <jipsy> two hard disks in one computer
[00:56] <KM0201> editing the source list is very simple
[00:56] <KM0201> jipsy: of course you can, but thats not really ubuntu related
[00:56] <szal> centHOGG: this is (1) not helpful, and (2) iirc, advertising commercial services is not allowed on Freenode
[00:56] <jipsy> how can I manage that using linux?
[00:56] <jipsy> can you guide me?
[00:56] <quittix3> (sorry for the 2 lines, accidentally pressed enter) i just typed in "grep -i universe /etc/apt/sources.list" and it gave me what i showed you in the pastebin
[00:56] <centHOGG> ok ok... ministerdude google it for free then
[00:57] <ministerdude> I just need to dual boot so I can use itunes
[00:57] <Barnabas> jipsy, first of all how did you connect your two drives to your motherbord / disk controller
[00:57] <jipsy> done
[00:57] <KM0201> quittix3: ok, so you don't know how to edit your source list...  type this in a terminal  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:57] <KM0201> quittix3: lemme know when it opens up
[00:57] <ctmjr> !mount > jipsy
[00:57] <Barnabas> jipsy, can you see your drives in your BIOS
[00:57] <szal> centHOGG: this is not helpful either
[00:58] <quittix3> KM0201: Now what?
[00:58] <jipsy> I used two cables to connect to the motherboard and another two for power
[00:58] <KM0201> quittix3: do you have your source list open?
[00:58] <Barnabas> jipsy, cool
[00:58] <jipsy> thnx! what's next?
[00:58] <Barnabas> jipsy, if you can then see your drives in your bios, you can probably already see them in linux as well
[00:59] <Barnabas> only linux does not know how to mount the new second drive
[00:59] <jipsy> hmmm you know the path in bios where I can see it? the raid in bios is disabled by the way
[00:59] <KM0201> quittix3: do you ahve your source list open?
[00:59] <samuel> hello guys
[01:00] <sputnick> is acsid.net works now ?
[01:00] <Barnabas> jipsy, the path in bios ?
[01:00] <samuel> anyone know if some sort of program that monitors a device via ping and sends an email alert if its not found???
[01:00] <quittix3> KM0201: The terminal just said a whole bunch of stuff, but it doesnt say sourcedisk anywhere
[01:00] <jipsy> I can go to bios alright.. then go to advance... from there im lost.
[01:00] <sputnick> samuel:  look nagios
[01:00] <Manhose> Is it true you guys have a bot with chat macros for everything
[01:00] <KM0201> quittix3: can i PM you, cuz you're not following
[01:00] <quittix3> yes?
[01:00] <KM0201> and your source list is screwed up enough
[01:01] <sputnick> samuel: or for a very simple need it's easy to script
[01:01] <sputnick> what do you want to test ? samuel ?
[01:01] <Barnabas> jipsy, bios'es are quite different from make to make, but look for a menu item called disk or hard disks
[01:01] <Manhose> Guys? Is it true you guys have a bot with chat macros for everything?
[01:01] <jipsy> ill be right back!
[01:01] <sputnick> see ya
[01:01] <sputnick> jipsy.
[01:01] <ctmjr> !bot
[01:02] <Manhose> Thanks
[01:03] <sputnick> samuel: in crontab
[01:04] <sputnick> ping &>/dev/null -c1 foobar.tld || ping -c1 | mail -s "alert, foobar.tld don't ping anymore !" --<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:04] <samuel> sputnick, just check an ip camera if its working, however I want a more complete solution. I have a script that does just that, however I am thinking about putting up some more cameras and other devices so I am looking for something that might be easy to expand upon in the future
[01:05] <sputnick> samuel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Nagios
[01:05] <samuel> sputnick, thanks very much
[01:05] <sputnick> samuel: can you ping acsid.net for me please ?
[01:05] <samuel> sure
[01:05] <samuel> hold on
[01:05] <sputnick> :)
[01:06] <sadi> hello
[01:06] <sputnick> hi sadi
[01:06] <sadi> sputnick hi
[01:07] <sadi> sputnick can u help me please
[01:07] <samuel> sputnick, ns38938.ovh.net time about 180
[01:07] <sadi> :)
[01:07] <samuel> sputnick, although I am in mexico
[01:07] <sputnick> ok, thanks
[01:07] <sputnick> sadi: don't ask to ask
[01:07] <samuel> :)
[01:07] <samuel> just ask
[01:07] <samuel> :)
[01:09] <sadi> sputnick I've  problem with sound.I dont get sound through the speaker but get sound through the headphone what to do now?
[01:09] <samuel> alsamixer
[01:09] <samuel> make sure that its not muted
[01:09] <seahunter> can someone point me in the right direction for reading material for linux+ certification by chance???
[01:09] <sadi> I use ubuntu 10.04 sputnick
[01:09] <sputnick> http://pastie.org/2229289 sadi
[01:10] <sadi> Samuel I already do that
[01:10] <sputnick> sadi: do all the things in my URL and give us the reply for point 8
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> hmmmm
[01:13] <sadi> sputnick for 8 it says, Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
[01:13] <sputnick> sadi: I don't care, did you ear something ?
[01:13] <sputnick> =)
[01:13] <sadi> not at all
[01:14] <sputnick> is the ghetto blaster "on" ?
[01:14] <kierge> is there an ubuntu application that will assist me in arranging or adding/removing photos from facebook ?  i'm not very good using facebook website itself.
[01:14] <sadi> ghetto blaster?? where I found it??
[01:14] <sputnick> kierge: curl or better : perl + WWW::Mechanize
[01:15] <kierge> i was looking for something with a gui and easy to use
[01:15] <sputnick> that needs some time to know how to use it, but after you will be a poweruser !
[01:15] <sputnick> :)
[01:16] <sadi> sputnick there is no alsaconf at ma laptop
[01:16] <sputnick> sadi: install alsa alsa-utils
[01:16] <sputnick> sudo apt-get install alsa alsa-utils
[01:16] <sputnick> or use synaptic
[01:16] <sadi> I've does alsabase ,alsamixer,alsa-utilites
[01:17] <sputnick> ?
[01:17] <sadi> sputnick I've those alsabase ,alsamixer,alsa-utilites
[01:18] <sputnick> you need "alsa-utils" package
[01:19] <sputnick> is the sound have had works or you have a fresh install sadi ?
[01:19] <josepablo> juegos
[01:20] <RenatoSilva> I just did crap, it did exist /root/.bashrc but I created one under /root/something/.bashrc, then there I moved it up overwriting the original .bashrc!!!! How to recover from this?!!!
[01:20] <Owner> Hey I was just on here
[01:20] <sadi> My sound have had work on only at headphone nt at its speaker
[01:20] <sadi> I already checked it now again
[01:20] <Owner> and I restarted my computer after setting it to not require a password and I forgot my username, is there any way I can get my username without logging in
[01:21] <RenatoSilva> how a standard ubuntu /root/.bashrc look like?
[01:21] <sadi> sputnick My sound have had work on only at headphone nt at its speaker .I already checked it now again
[01:22] <sputnick> RenatoSilva: did you mad some improvements in .bashrc or you just want a fresh one ?
[01:22] <sadi> sputnick is there any thing that can open all the channel at a time?
[01:22] <sadi> by using command line??
[01:23] <sputnick> RenatoSilva: sudo cp /etc/skel/.bashrc /root/.bashrc
[01:23] <HackerII> i like what you said at the bottom sputnick   rok on man.
[01:24] <sputnick> sadi: try this http://pastie.org/2229324
[01:24] <Owner> is there a way I can get my username on linux, I forgot what it was since it's been set
[01:24] <sputnick> whoami
[01:24] <sputnick> Owner...
[01:24] <eagleserver>   Owner.. thats probly ure name
[01:25] <RenatoSilva> sputnick: I don't recall customizing it, so a fresh one from a reliable source is pretty welcome!!!
[01:25] <eagleserver> if thats what it called when u logged into xchat
[01:25] <RenatoSilva> sputnick: hmmm!!!!
[01:25] <szal> Owner: ls -lA /home/ <- the user dirs are named after the users
[01:25] <RenatoSilva> sputnick: are you sure that's the root version???
[01:25] <BillClinton> hi there. I am trying to get scim set up so I can type in Pinyin but when I try to install the Simplex pinyin package from set up it freezes
[01:25] <eagleserver> szal, assuming he can log into it at all :)
[01:25] <BillClinton> and when I try to install it from command line
[01:25] <szal> Owner: unless you have a user without a home dir, but that's a highly unlikely configuration for a general-purpose user
[01:25] <sputnick> or "echo $USER" Owner
[01:26] <BillClinton> I get scim has exited abnorally.
[01:26] <BillClinton> abnormally"
[01:26] <BillClinton> halp please
[01:26] <szal> eagleserver: if he can't, he can still use a live CD to look at the home dir or partition ;)
[01:26] <sputnick> RenatoSilva: that's the same for everyone I think
[01:26] <eagleserver> BillClinton, is it a .deb or are you compiling from source?
[01:26] <BillClinton> .deb, eagleserver
[01:27] <Owner> so in other words I'm up the creak without a paddle, aka in trouble
[01:27] <sadi> sputnick for command 3, amixer set 'Front',0 90%,90% unmute  amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Front',0
[01:27] <sputnick> RenatoSilva: nope, on debian that's not the same, sorry
[01:27] <eagleserver> BillClinton, if you are using the correct tags, try redownloading the file.
[01:27] <RenatoSilva> sputnick: well but root is often an exception to things you know....
[01:27] <szal> Owner: why so?
[01:27] <RenatoSilva> sputnick: aaaaaaa!!!
[01:27] <BillClinton> eagleserver, should I purge the program first?
[01:27] <Owner> I don't have anyother accounts to login to
[01:27] <sputnick> RenatoSilva: http://pastie.org/2229334
[01:27] <BillClinton> Before going for a fresh install I mean.
[01:28] <szal> Owner: as I said, use a live medium to identify the user's home folder, then you have the name
[01:28] <sputnick> that's debian one
[01:28] <Owner> what would a live medium be for example
[01:28] <szal> Owner: any live CD you can come up with
[01:28] <Owner> so another xubuntu cd
[01:28] <sputnick> "[03:23] <HackerII> i like what you said at the bottom sputnick   rok on man." whar are you talking about ?
[01:28] <szal> Owner: e.g.
[01:28] <szal> Owner: but why 'another'?
[01:28] <sputnick> sadi: do you have tested one more time sound system ?
[01:29] <Owner> I don't know where my original one is
[01:29] <RenatoSilva> sputnick: that's skel or root's?
[01:29] <sputnick> root
[01:29] <szal> Owner: no loss; burn another one ^^
[01:29] <RenatoSilva> sputnick: yours?
[01:29] <sadi> yap sputnick but still don't work
[01:29] <sputnick> from debian
[01:29] <Yukinoroh> hello
[01:29] <sadi> no sound at ma speaker
[01:29] <Owner> true, and yay for freeness known as linux
[01:29] <sputnick> RenatoSilva: default debian one
[01:30] <RenatoSilva> sputnick: can you $diff -U 0 /etc/skel/.bashrc /root/.bashrc please?
[01:30] <RenatoSilva> sputnick: you're on Debian?
[01:30] <Yukinoroh> how do I force an application to run in 32bit mode? is there a command for that?  I have one and it just won't run, it ends in a segmentation fault
[01:31] <sputnick> sadi: search google about "lspci | grep -i aud" output
[01:31] <tertl3> what app?
[01:31] <sputnick> http://pastie.org/2229344 RenatoSilva
[01:32] <Yukinoroh> tertl3: mugen
[01:32] <RenatoSilva> sputnick: man that's a big diff hehe
[01:32] <mehmet> Hello.
[01:32] <Yukinoroh> it's the linux vesion but it will just segfault in ubuntu 64bit
[01:32] <mehmet> Anybody using ruby 1.9.2 on Ubuntu 11.04 without RVM ?
[01:32] <sputnick> kierge: maybe http://download.cnet.com/Photo-Uploader-for-Facebook/3000-13455_4-10971765.html is a clue
[01:32] <RenatoSilva> sputnick: you're on Debian? because I want just the Ubuntu version
[01:32] <sputnick> RenatoSilva: yes, this is not the same
[01:33] <Yukinoroh> How do I force a program to run in 32bit compatibility mode?
[01:33] <Owner> alright booted into the xubuntu 11.04 disc, now what do I do
[01:33] <sputnick> RenatoSilva: I think that's the same while ubuntu is a debian tweak
[01:33] <tertl3> Yukinoroh, it should be automatic
[01:33] <RenatoSilva> sputnick: yes for debian, you're using debian?
[01:33] <Yukinoroh> tertl3: it's obviously not for this application
[01:34] <Yukinoroh> and I have no other clue why it'd segfautl
[01:34] <sputnick> RenatoSilva: I use archlinux on my desktop, debian for my servers (ovh and backup one) and ubuntu in a VM for developpement
[01:34] <RenatoSilva> sputnick: so in ubuntu they're different but not in debian?
[01:34] <Owner> szal, after loading the disc what do I do afterwords
[01:34] <mehmet> Hello.
[01:34] <centHOGG> h
[01:34] <sputnick> RenatoSilva: do you mean differences ?
[01:35] <petedunhamm> Anybody using ruby 1.9.2 on Ubuntu 11.04 without RVM ?
[01:35] <RenatoSilva> sputnick: yes
[01:36] <szal> Owner: find out what partition contains your /home/ folder, mount that & look at it
[01:37] <szal> Owner: if in doubt, just mount all partitions, doesn't hurt ;)
[01:38] <min|dvir|us> Any way to do something on USB disconnect?
[01:39] <Owner> wait so I choose to boot from first hard disk correct
[01:39] <szal> Owner: if you have only 1 partition, you will find a /home/ directory there containing the users' personal directories; if you have a separate partition for /home/, you will see the users' directories directly there
[01:39] <szal> Owner: no, you boot from the CD
[01:39] <Owner> I put the disk in and have the following options: Install xubuntu, check disc for defects,test memory, boot from first hard disk, and rescue a broken system
[01:40] <szal> Owner: is that a live CD or an alternate CD?
[01:40] <Owner> it's the copy I burned to originally install xubuntu
[01:41] <sputnick> min|dvir|us: in a terminal : while grep &>/dev/null /mount_point; do sleep 2; done; echo "DO SOMETHING, usb is disconnected"
[01:41] <sputnick> sorry, incomplete :
[01:41] <HackerII> nvm sputnick  i was thinking something else
[01:41] <sputnick> while grep &>/dev/null /mount_point /etc/mtab; do sleep 2; done; echo "DO SOMETHING, usb is disconnected"
[01:41] <szal> Owner: wait a sec, I'll boot a live CD
[01:42] <Owner> okay, it's 11.04 xubuntu
[01:42] <szal> Owner: it's an alternate CD, get a live CD
[01:42] <min|dvir|us> sputnick: That's a great way to DoS a system.
[01:42] <min|dvir|us> I'm thinking more like udev-type shiznit.
[01:42] <sputnick> min|dvir|us: no
[01:42] <RenatoSilva> can I safely do a sudo cp /etc/skel/.bashrc /root/.bashrc in Natty (11.04). Are they the same file in Natty????
[01:42] <reddelicious49> Does anybody know if upgrading an Ubuntu OS on a dual boot computer requires any special procedure?
[01:43] <sputnick> min|dvir|us: I agree : that's quick and dirty. Now if you know udev, goo looking "man -k udev"*
[01:43] <sputnick> *go*
[01:43] <dli> reddelicious49, how do you 'upgrade'? but unless you want to do something fancy, no, ubuntu can handle dual boot auto
[01:43] <rww> !upgrade reddelicious49
[01:44] <rww> !upgrade | reddelicious49
[01:44] <rww> reddelicious49: those instructions should work fine, nothing special to do
[01:44] <fatkittyasfaafgg> how do i use this program to join a different Server? I cant find a server list or anything of the sort,
[01:44] <reddelicious49> ok. Thank you all
[01:44] <rww> fatkittyasfaafgg: /connect address.of.server, probably
[01:44] <fatkittyasfaafgg> i use xchat gnome
[01:44] <fatkittyasfaafgg> or something
[01:45] <fatkittyasfaafgg> i'll try that. thank you :)
[01:45] <Owner> okay where do I get a live cd
[01:45] <Derpadong> is it a good idea to runs windows along side ubuntu?
[01:45] <szal> !download | Owner
[01:46] <infobit> Owner, read all the instructions on get Ubuntu page
[01:46] <szal> Owner: you need one that says 'desktop' in the filename
[01:46] <Owner> mkay thank you very much
[01:46] <KM0201> don't use wubi!
[01:46] <fatkittyasfaafgg> .connect
[01:47] <fatkittyasfaafgg> no luck
[01:47] <Owner> wow got to get this all fixed by tomorrow, GREAT
[01:47] <fatkittyasfaafgg> nothing appears to be happening.
[01:47] <Derpadong> im not going to use wubi. im going to do it via live cd.
[01:47] <infobit> fatkittyasfaafgg, use xchat 2.8.8 there in the startup of xchat you get network list
[01:47] <rww> fatkittyasfaafgg: .connect isn't /connect
[01:47] <fatkittyasfaafgg> i tried it with /connect
[01:48] <fatkittyasfaafgg> i figured maybe command was wrong after trying several times
[01:48] <fatkittyasfaafgg> so i figured . or , might work.
[01:48] <Ms_Darkangyl> hi all
[01:48] <infobit> Ms_Darkangyl,   hi whats up
[01:49] <szal> Owner: gotta grab some sleep, be back around 0900 UTC, just in the unlikely case you won't find other assistance here
[01:49] <Ms_Darkangyl> not much
[01:50] <sputnick> min|dvir|us https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=119111
[01:53] <RenatoSilva> is this the only diff between /etc/skel's and /root's .bashrc? http://pastie.org/2229416
[01:54] <szal> RenatoSilva: the stuff in /etc/skel/ is templates
[01:55] <reddelicious49> I'm still running 9.04. Is there a reason I can't upgrade through the update manager?
[01:56] <[THC]AcidRain> im running 9.04 as well
[01:56] <rww> !eol | reddelicious49
[01:56] <[THC]AcidRain> you cant update because we are unsupported
[01:56] <rww> (second link)
[01:56] <[THC]AcidRain> we have been left behind
[01:56] <[THC]AcidRain> forgotten as children to fail in our todays society
[01:56] <rww> [THC]AcidRain: 1) go read the documentation I had ubottu link, 2) stop being melodramatic :P
[01:57] <Owner> alright so I should choose to boot frmo cd
[01:57] <[THC]AcidRain> lol :)
[01:57] <szal> Owner: right
[01:58] <RenatoSilva> szal: so?
[01:58] <pappa_bear> szal, i figured it out. it was exactly where you said. i just had to edit the starting resolution. thanks for your help
[01:58] <groll> why does ubuntu stops loading when i click restart ? i get the screen with dots, and it just stops there. have to manually shut down, and restart.  But an automatic shut down from gnome desktop will make it stop loading
[02:00] <ender> I am attempting to add a graphics card to my ubuntu system. I am currently running 11.04 build with an AMD IG chip and am upgrading to an Nvidia GT 520
[02:00] <KM0201> ender: well, ask your question
[02:00] <ender> Ok
[02:00] <[THC]AcidRain> where is the issue in this?
[02:00] <KM0201> ender, ... slightly off topic, do you post on GT?
[02:00] <[THC]AcidRain> i have an nvidia card
[02:00] <ender> So I put in the card, and hope.... maybe that ubuntu will detect it
[02:01] <[THC]AcidRain> KM0201: actually his question relates to ubuntu
[02:01] <KM0201> ender: it should detect it just fine
[02:01] <groll> shouldn't he get the 10.04 if he's new with ubuntu ?
[02:01] <groll> the LST
[02:01] <KM0201> [THC]AcidRain: i know that...  i was asking hi a question not related to ubuntu
[02:01] <KM0201> lol
[02:01] <Derpadong> are you doing this while its loading up?
[02:01] <[THC]AcidRain> lol
[02:01] <ender> I start up my system and it gets to the ubuntu logo
[02:01] <ender> but
[02:01] <ender> then i get an error
[02:02] <[THC]AcidRain> ender: write a suspence movie lol
[02:02] <rww> !behelpful
[02:02] <ender> "skipping profile in /etc/apparmor.d/disable: usr.bin.firefox
[02:02] <ender> "
[02:02] <[THC]AcidRain> i dont think that has anything to do with the new gfx card...
[02:02] <KM0201> ender: that won't keep the machine from booting
[02:02] <ender> sorry i was manually typing it in
[02:02] <RenatoSilva> what's  /etc/bash.bashrc?
[02:02] <rww> ender: That's not an error, it's an informational message about something that's set by default.
[02:02] <rww> RenatoSilva: the systemwide bash configuration file
[02:03] <ender> well how do i get past this screen to the splash?
[02:03] <ender> it seems to be stuck lol
[02:03] <ender> <---noob
[02:03] <Owner> in the xubuntu live cd what does rescue a broken system do?
[02:03] <[THC]AcidRain> hmmm
[02:04] <ctmjr> ender,  it hangs after that message?
[02:04] <[THC]AcidRain> restore
[02:04] <ender> it doesnt hant, i can still do commands
[02:04] <ender> but it also doesnt proceed to the splash
[02:04] <ender> i never had this issue until i inputting my new card today
[02:04] <ender> hault*
[02:05] <ctmjr> ender, so it just sends you to a terminal prompt?
[02:05] <ender> yes
[02:05] <ender> just a blank flashing _
[02:05] <Owner> hey Im running the live cd for xubuntu, and was woandering what to type into the boot options to be able to see the names of all users on the partition
[02:05] <[THC]AcidRain> ender: you didnt see a message about detecting new software?
[02:05] <[THC]AcidRain> i mean hardware
[02:06] <RenatoSilva> rww: doesn't serve as replacement for lost /root/.bashrc, right?
[02:06] <c00p> Anyone got a good howto for ubuntu server and a Windows 2008 domain? I can't get a 11.04 box to join a domain ...
[02:06] <ender> a lot of content went by fast, i dont think i did
[02:06] <c00p> *ubuntu server running samba
[02:06] <ender> i tried booting into safe mode
[02:06] <ender> and installing the drivers
[02:06] <ender> which worked
[02:06] <ender> but
[02:06] <FloodBot1> ender: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:06] <ender> i restarted and go tthe same issue
[02:06] <c00p> only want to do file sharing
[02:06]  * rww kicks FloodBot1
[02:07] <c00p> ads is failing and rpc results in 'Could not initialise lsa pipe'
[02:07] <szal> Owner: nothing special, just start the live system (in your case likely: "Start Xubuntu"), wait till the desktop is there, then use file browser to look through the hard drive partitions to find either /home/ or the user dir(s) (in the former case the user dir(s) will be in /home/)
[02:07] <ender> voice please
[02:07] <rww> ender: please don't overuse your return key, you're making our bots mad.
[02:07] <[THC]AcidRain> lol. floodbot1 gave ender owner privaledges
[02:07] <[THC]AcidRain> hax
[02:07] <ender> lol
[02:07] <rww> [THC]AcidRain: No, FloodBot kickbanned ender.
[02:07] <ender> =/
[02:08] <RenatoSilva> is /etc/bash.bashrc intended asreplacement for a lost /root/.bashrc? see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1185571
[02:08] <ender> like i said i got into safemode and was able to install the nvidia drivers, but when i installed it sent me to the same old prompt and error(?)
[02:08] <RenatoSilva> s/asre/as re
[02:08] <ender> is there a command to run the splash?
[02:09] <ctmjr> ender, startx
[02:09] <ctmjr> see what error you get
[02:09] <ender> no sudo required?
[02:09] <ctmjr> no
[02:09] <rww> do not use sudo with startx.
[02:09] <ender> nothing happened rww
[02:09] <rww> RenatoSilva: just use /etc/skel/.bashrc. They're not different in any way that matters.
[02:10] <Derpadong> he might need root access to do startx
[02:10] <rww> Derpadong: startx does not require root access. Running sudo startx sometimes has the fun side-effect of breaking the permissions on the dotfiles in ~/
[02:10] <RenatoSilva> rww: ok checcking in natty, it seems root just removes an alert alias and comments some /etc/bash_completion related 'if'
[02:11] <Derpadong> just saying
[02:11] <ctmjr> ender, do you have a terminal prompt or just a little flashing line
[02:11] <ender> flashing line
[02:11] <RenatoSilva> rww: I'm about to replace with one from another buddy which is just like I described. Thanks!
[02:11] <ctmjr> rww, yes it does
[02:11] <rww> ctmjr: What?
[02:12] <Derpadong> sudo startx is a way to start x-org files.
[02:12] <ctmjr> rww, your comment about running sudo startx
[02:13] <rww> "sudo startx" is liable to break things. I recommend we move on before I start kicking people for recommending commands that break things.
[02:13] <Derpadong> its the same for arch, xubuntu, ubuntu, etc
[02:13] <ender> ok well i am still stuck
[02:13] <RenatoSilva> what are default permissions of /root/.bashrc? because afaik mv overwrites permissions too and I just mv'd over that file. I've got a new file now want to adjust permissions
[02:13] <ender> clearly my new card is affecting my system, it will not allow me to go to the splash screen from start up
[02:14] <rww> RenatoSilva: It doesn't really matter. If you want a suggestion anyway, owner root, group root, permissions 600
[02:14] <RenatoSilva> rww: ok thanks
[02:15] <ctmjr> ender, that little flashing line is not a terminal prompt your system is hanging you need to boot into rescue mode and fix it
[02:15] <Derpadong> rww: when did sudo startx start breaking stuff?
[02:15] <ender> how do i do that ctmjr?
[02:16] <anadon> hey, how do I manually add a windows entry and how do I find what that entry needs to be?
[02:16] <ministerdude> Configure gtkpod anyone?
[02:16] <Owner> mkay thank you sz__
[02:16] <Owner> er szal
[02:17] <quittix3> who was helping me just a little bit ago?
[02:17] <rww> quittix3: KM0201
[02:18] <KM0201> quittix3: ?
[02:18] <quittix3> KM0201: Sorry to bother again, but what do I have to inter into the terminal to get that text file up to edit the sources?
[02:19] <KM0201> quittix3: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:19] <Derpadong> i was about to say that KM0201 lol
[02:20] <malv> this new openssh update for 10.04 broke my system
[02:20] <malv> something to do with debconf and frontend
[02:20] <malv> frontend segfaults making it impossible to finish the openssh upgrade
[02:23] <quittix3> By intering some code into my terminal, it totally destroyed my ubuntu on my hard drive, and it deleted all my stuff in home. All that was there was a file named mythtv. I tried recovering my files but testdisk says they are corrupt
[02:23] <ray__> Hey fellas, I just installed Ubuntu 11 narwal, and when I try to use streamtuner, it disappears, it closes, what is the problem? thanks
[02:24] <anadon> hey, how do I manually add a windows entry and how do I find what that entry needs to be?
[02:25] <RenatoSilva> my root folder permission is 655, is that right?
[02:26] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: / should be 751 i think
[02:27] <quittix3> KM0201: I edited that file and did what I did last time, I tried installing testdisk and it said could not locate
[02:27] <KM0201> quittix3: then you didn't edit it properly
[02:28] <KM0201> did you type sudo apt-get update
[02:28] <KM0201> to update your source list
[02:28] <ctmjr> ender sorry for the delay but i need to go state your problem again and maybe someone else can help you. again am sorry
[02:28] <quittix3> ah yes, i forgot :P
[02:28] <KM0201> if you don't reload yoru source list, it won't find it
[02:28] <KM0201> :)
[02:28] <RenatoSilva> celthunder: it's 755 actually
[02:28] <dli> RenaKunisaki, my / is 755
[02:29] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: dli kk i didn't look was just going off memory
[02:29] <celthunder> 755 sounds more right than 655
[02:30] <dli> RenatoSilva, I wonder what happens you chmod / to 655
[02:31] <celthunder> dli: probably not much unless you add -R
[02:31] <rww> probably bad things
[02:31] <rww> let's save the speculation for a non-support channel :P
[02:31] <dli> celthunder, no, with -x for /, you can not open / folder, so, can not open any folder at all, not even chmod to chmod
[02:32] <celthunder> dli: supposedly but that goes like saying rm -rf / in theory rm should be deleted pretty fast ...
[02:33] <RenatoSilva> dli: I wonder why 755, why allow others to read/execute from root, /root should be totally, recursively, xx0 I think
[02:33] <quittix3> KM0201: I edited the text file right, updated the thing in terminal, and it still wotn let me install testdisk. could I be missing something?
[02:33] <dli> celthunder, better not to mention such thing in a support channel. still it's different, since linux uses copy-on-write, so rm itself is no issue
[02:33] <KM0201> quittix3: obviously you are... gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    and pastebin the contents of that file.
[02:33] <KM0201> !pastebin | quittix3
[02:34] <dli> RenaKunisaki, to open a folder, you need 'x' permission
[02:34] <RenaKunisaki> dammit RenatoSilv
[02:34] <RenaKunisaki> a
[02:34] <dli> RenaKunisaki, and all user must be able to open the folder /
[02:34] <RenaKunisaki> people keep highlighting me instead of you XP
[02:34] <celthunder> dli: yeah but that does'nt stop it from getting rid of stuff you need to remove stuff ( rm was just an example didn't think it through)
[02:34] <rww> Alrighty, I think we're done discussing "how do I break my Ubuntu" now, thanks.
[02:35] <celthunder> rww: it's easy to break...gotta break to fix :)
[02:35] <quittix3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/646169/ alot of the text seems to be missing from like last time
[02:35] <Centallith> ubuntu is actually really fragile. I've broken mine 4 times for different reasons. Kubuntu is surprisingly stable though.
[02:36] <RenatoSilva> in short, what should be the permissions of /root, including recursively? I wonder if my Ubuntu got messed after so many upgrades and no fresh install since years
[02:37] <celthunder> /root should be 710 i think
[02:37] <celthunder> user all execute group nothing for all others
[02:37] <rww> 700 or 710 is fine. Again, it doesn't matter much.
[02:38] <rww> since you're not using the root user, since #ubuntu doesn't support that configuration, right... :\
[02:39] <quittix3> When I try to enter: sudo apt-get update,  It gives me this: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? (at the end of a bunch of stuff)
[02:39] <celthunder> quittix3: do you have a lock file left over or another package manager running?
[02:39] <rww> quittix3: You have another package manager running (e.g. synaptic, update-manager, aptitude, apt-get). Close it.
[02:39] <dli> quittix3, do you have dpkg running? ps aux|grep 'apt|dpkg'
[02:40] <RenatoSilva> for example this is my odd root http://pastie.org/2229563
[02:40] <celthunder>  I e-er ort..."
[02:40] <celthunder> er oops
[02:40] <rww> RenatoSilva: As I attempted to hint above, #ubuntu does not support unlocked root accounts or offer help with them. It appears you have one.  Besides, I've never touched /root's permissions, so if something is wrong with them, it's because of bug[s] in upgrade processes
[02:42] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: so what's wrong with it far as i saw at a quick glance you gave a few extra permissions but overall it should still work
[02:42] <quittix3> when I enter: sudo apt-get install ubuntu it still wont install it, even though I did everything I was suposed to...
[02:42] <RenatoSilva> celthunder: just worried about the 755 on root itself, and ANY permission at all for 'other' in some stuff
[02:42] <quittix3> this is so random.. it worked a litytle bit ago
[02:43] <celthunder> quittix3: apt-get install ubuntu???? apt-get won't work unless you already have ubuntu (or debian/smoe other distro that uses apt-get but not that point)
[02:43] <RenatoSilva> celthunder: should I be fine if I at least chmod /root o-rwx?
[02:44] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: so take off the "other" permissions
[02:44] <RenatoSilva> celthunder: recursively or just on /root as I said?
[02:44] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: yeah..
[02:44] <celthunder> doesn't matter much
[02:44] <rww> RenatoSilva: It doesn't matter, given that if /root can't be accessed by other, then nothing inside of /root can.
[02:44] <poseidon> Any suggestions for a good mp3 play which isn't made by apple?
[02:45] <RenatoSilva> celthunder: hmmmm.... I suspect it does matter friend...
[02:45] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: how? if other can't open the folder in the first place (changing /root to no permissions to other) they really can't do much in it either...unless you do something stupid like use userdir from apache and turn it on for root too...but that's another issue
[02:45] <RenatoSilva> rww, celthunder: that's why I want to touch only /root, being less intrusive, since everything under it will also be inaccessible as rww said
[02:46] <RenatoSilva> poseidon: player?
[02:46] <kierge> poseidon, tomahawk player uses playlists similar to genius playlists the are automatic playlists based on what you define.  it works best on KDE for which it was intended.
[02:46] <poseidon> sorry, hardware
[02:47] <celthunder> poseidon: mpd is perfect...and any android phone makes for a great hardware player
[02:47] <poseidon> audio player which plays on it's on.  For driving/running
[02:47] <poseidon> celthunder: I use mpd :)
[02:47] <quittix3> celthunder: lol. I ment to say testdisk, not ubuntu
[02:47] <RenatoSilva> celthunder: didn't get anything after userdir. So I'm just ok with chmod o-rwx only in /root, right?
[02:47] <poseidon> Yea, I'll have to look into an new phone
[02:47] <celthunder> poseidon: ok that aside the Sansa Fuse i've heard good things about
[02:48] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: sure
[02:48] <celthunder> quittix3: what's the error?
[02:48] <quittix3> celthunder: me... thats what, I was missspelling it\
[02:49] <celthunder> lol well least you got it working now
[02:49] <Derpadong> audio players you say?
[02:49] <celthunder> poseidon: how much space you need? sdcard? battery life?
[02:49] <RenatoSilva> celthunder: ok thanks friend. Would that make my root a non-"unlocked root accounts", if you ever know what it means?
[02:49] <ssfdre38> how can i comment out Unity from login?
[02:49] <RenatoSilva> ssfdre38: comment out?
[02:49] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: he means don't use root for x...
[02:49] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: and no ...it doesn't
[02:50] <ssfdre38> RenatoSilva: i want to get Unity off my system
[02:50] <celthunder> ssfdre38: what display manager?
[02:50] <celthunder> comment it out from the display manager or delete it?
[02:50] <RenatoSilva> ssfdre38: I wanted it too, it's just selecting classic session or something (after you choose/type an user)
[02:51] <ssfdre38> i know but i want to remove it off the system where i dont even see it on the login
[02:51] <RenatoSilva> ssfdre38: it seems you can't uninstall Unity, but as I said you can stop using it
[02:51] <kierge> ssfdre38, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop then you can remove ubunutu-desktop if you wanted.  just switch your DM at login
[02:51] <celthunder> ssfdre38: delete it from gnomes scripts there should be a Unity.Desktop file that you can delete somewhere...searching one sec
[02:52] <celthunder> er gdm scripts not gnomes whatever ...if you're~ using it
[02:52] <RenatoSilva> what's an unlocked root account?
[02:52] <RenatoSilva> celthunder: for x?
[02:52] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: one that has a password (any normal person has one...)
[02:52] <celthunder> the dumbest thing to do with root is run X from it (or the obvious stupid stuff)
[02:52] <rww> !classic
[02:53] <RenatoSilva> celthunder: how did he deduce mine was unlocked? how can he know without looking at my /etc/passwd?
[02:53] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: he doesn't...he was guessing because you're using roots home folder...
[02:53] <ministerdude> Why does ubuntu suck? Because it's harder then hell to get anything to work right on it
[02:53] <kierge> RenatoSilva, your paranoia is getting the best of you
[02:54] <quittix3> is it a bad idea to use testdisk on an ubuntu live cd to copy my files from a deleted partition on a hard drive to my phones memory chip?
[02:54] <RenatoSilva> celthunder: s/passwd/shadow
[02:54] <celthunder> ministerdude: it sucks because it has shoddy defaults and gives no choices .
[02:54] <RenatoSilva> celthunder: he thought I was using the desktop as root? ah ok, he failed
[02:54] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: same answer
[02:54] <ministerdude> Thank you for agreeing.  Let #ubuntu-offtopic know how well it bounces.
[02:55] <celthunder> ministerdude: lol video it
[02:55] <Zimsky> How do I use gnu screen?
[02:55] <celthunder> Zimsky: to do what?
[02:55] <RenatoSilva> kierge: sorry?
[02:56] <ministerdude> I'm still trying to sync my iphone with this damn thing so I can transfer ALL my music. not just part of it
[02:56] <Zimsky> I have a process with a console running on my server and I am connected to it via SSH, I need to be able to view that console from my SSH client
[02:56] <kierge> ministerdude, ubuntu doesn't suck.  all my hardware "works with it"  it does everything i can expect it to do.
[02:56] <celthunder> Zimsky: screen with no arguements works to open a screen session screen <progname> runs program in a screen session that is then opened...screen -r <session resumes> screen -x connect to an already connected display
[02:56] <RenatoSilva> kierge: it wasn't a paranoia dude, actually a bit of yours heh
[02:56] <ministerdude> My hardware (iphone) don't work with it
[02:57] <Jordan_U> Zimsky: The best solution is to have started whatever process you need to watch in a screen session. Are you familiar with screen?
[02:57] <rypervenche> ministerdude: Use Windows or iTunes or a VM with Windows.
[02:57] <kierge> ministerdude, apple is to blame not ubuntu.
[02:57] <Zimsky> Jordan_U: no
[02:57] <RenatoSilva> kierge: I wasn't worried, just curious how could he know whether I have a password set for root or not, like is he some kind of magician?  That I'll never use again
[02:57] <quittix3> I dont really think of ubuntu as "difficult".. I just think of it as annoying because If I want to do one simple thing on ubuntu it takes like a half hour when I could be using windows and it would take me just minutes..
[02:57] <RenatoSilva> celthunder: I KNOW! you told me!
[02:57] <CaptWho> anyone out there  have a link for eeebuntu?
[02:57] <rww> This is obviously a problem with Ubuntu and not with iPhones. It's inconceivable that they could deliberately be set up by Apple to stop people from being able to sync from them with non-iTunes programs.
[02:57] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: lol :)
[02:58] <RenatoSilva> celthunder: just answering (23:53:32) kierge: RenatoSilva, your paranoia is getting the best of you
[02:58] <rypervenche> quittix3: Then don't use Ubuntu. Problem solved.
[02:58] <quittix3> thats the plan
[02:58] <RenatoSilva> quittix3: I use both
[02:59] <RenatoSilva> quittix3: I'm about 1h or more trying to recover my .bashrc of root
[02:59] <kierge> rww, wow, you got away with that explaination.   amazing :)
[02:59] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: ROFL? just take one from /etc/skel like the rest of the world
[02:59] <quittix3> ive already broken ubuntu so many times im scared to touch everything.. lol im just trying to rescue everything off my hard drive before ubuntu makes it implode
[03:00] <celthunder> RenatoSilva: or make a new one...
[03:01] <RenatoSilva> quittix3: now I just remembered of my beloved PS1 I just lost with my bashrc replacement. I closed the last terminal with it. Now I need more two hows or so on remembering how that thing of colors work :D
[03:02] <RenatoSilva> celthunder: I mostly took the skel version, just that 1. I saw a little diffs then used them rather 2. my beloved PS1 is gone and I'm on the way to recall how it was!
[03:02] <quittix3> oh nooo nautilus has closed unexpectedly!
[03:02] <quittix3> whats that? o_o
[03:03] <Zimsky> I'm still having trouble with connecting
[03:04] <celthunder> quittix3: a file browser...among other things
[03:04] <seangrove> Hey all, I have a setup with lxc running on ubuntu, and I'm trying to mount a loop device in the container via `mknod -m660 /dev/loop0 b 7 0', but I'm getting an error: mknod: `/dev/loop0': Operation not permitted
[03:04] <Zimsky> The console i'm trying to connect to is bukkit
[03:04] <seangrove> (this is as root)
[03:04] <celthunder> Zimsky: did you start it in a screen session
[03:04] <seangrove> I thought it was perhaps a permissions issue, but I think it's actually a kernel problem
[03:05] <seangrove> I don't have modprobe in the container though, so I'm wondering how I can get the container to be able to mount loop devices
[03:05] <seangrove> I know this is probably a bit technical - any suggestions?
[03:06] <celthunder> seangrove: worked for me...
[03:06] <seangrove> What do you mean?
[03:07] <Zimsky> eh, nvm
[03:07] <celthunder> seangrove: i just tried making a loop device like that works fine...note if it is a kernel issue i'm not likely using the same one as ubuntu does
[03:07] <quittix3> aghh
[03:08] <KM0201> quittix3: whats wroong now?
[03:08] <quittix3> I copyed my home folder to my downloads folder on accident and now it wont let me delete it
[03:08] <Reikoku> sudo rm -rf foldername
[03:08] <KM0201> yup.
[03:08] <Reikoku> within your downloads folder
[03:08] <KM0201> just pay attention you don't remove /home
[03:08] <quittix3> umm.. im not sure exactly how to get there
[03:08] <Reikoku> cd ~/Downloads
[03:09] <celthunder> uhm shouldn't it not let you move /home to /home/use/downloads
[03:09] <KM0201> celthunder: i was thinking the same thing
[03:09] <quittix3> i copyed, not move
[03:09] <KM0201> that should rip a hole in the space time continuum
[03:09] <Reikoku> You can't move it there, he probably hard linked it
[03:09] <KM0201> quittix3: even copy, i don't think it should let you do that
[03:09] <quittix3> i used testdisk to copy an older home folder on my hard drive
[03:09] <celthunder> same thing you can't copy a folder to a subfolder of itself...you can link it but..
[03:10] <Reikoku> KM0201: I think it hard links it if you try
[03:10] <Reikoku> Instead of actually copying it
[03:10] <KM0201> hmm
[03:10] <seangrove> celthunder: do you have the loop module loaded?
[03:10] <Reikoku> Can't confirm as I don't have Nautilus installed
[03:10] <Reikoku> Haven't used Linux for a while :P
[03:10] <quittix3> lol i cant delete my home because im using a live cd.
[03:11] <celthunder> seangrove: of course
[03:11] <Reikoku> Oh lol
[03:11] <celthunder> seangrove: kernel 2.6.39
[03:11] <seangrove> Yeah, there's something happening in lxc here..
[03:12] <celthunder> seangrove: lxc just makes a chroot no?
[03:12] <Reikoku> Umm, so I'm going to blaspheme here but, how portable is unity? :P
[03:13] <celthunder> seangrove: try making one without lxc
[03:13] <rww> Reikoku: what do you mean by "portable"?
[03:13] <celthunder> Reikoku: ? i don't think it's usable on a desktop...doesn't look / from what i tried feel too usable for a portable system either
[03:14] <seangrove> celthunder: I can do it in the host, but not in the container - it's piggybacking off of the host kernel of course, but I'm getting this: mknod '/dev/loop6' 7:6 060660' failed: Operation not permitted
[03:14] <celthunder> though if you mean canyou copy your settings from 1 comp to another type of portable ...yeah sure
[03:14] <quittix3> wow. when you run out of space in ubuntu it gets unstable and freezes up. lovely.
[03:14] <Reikoku> rww: I mean, how easy is it to port to another distro/unix-based OS?
[03:14] <celthunder> quittix3: don't fill up / ? and i have systems with like 1 MB of free space that have been running for months
[03:14] <Reikoku> celthunder: Felt gorgeous on my laptop, but Linux is a bit too power hungry for me to run on there
[03:14] <rww> Reikoku: shouldn't be too hard, if your destination supports the current version of compiz
[03:15] <Reikoku> I'm running NetBSD, I do have compiz
[03:15] <mrdeb> what changes do you think will be in next lts
[03:15] <Reikoku> Not sure how current it is :P
[03:15] <wolf9s> Morning!
[03:16] <celthunder> Reikoku: lol netbsd is usually not SUPER far behind ...comparatively...upstream...yeah usually it's not the most current
[03:16] <celthunder> wolf9s: evening
[03:16] <rww> mrdeb: The UDS for 12.04 hasn't happened yet, so there's nothing to base speculation on. #ubuntu-offtopic for baseless speculation.
[03:16] <wolf9s> ^_^
[03:16] <mrdeb> ok
[03:17] <wolf9s> I want to study TCP/IP 。 How?
[03:17] <Centallith> But just to be sure Thunderbird AND chrome are both default packages in 11.10 right? Wanted to make sure that wasn't also speculation.
[03:17] <celthunder> Centallith: chrome and thunderbird are in the repo's yeah...
[03:17] <rww> Centallith: #ubuntu+1 for oneiric discussion (but I believe the answer is "yes thunderbird, no chromium"
[03:17] <celthunder> wolf9s: what about it?
[03:18] <Reikoku> celthunder: I think it's one of the 0.8.4 compiz builds
[03:18] <audreyr> hi, can someone recommend a good rss reader for ubuntu?
[03:18] <celthunder> wolf9s: tcp/ip the entire network stack? routing? what about it tcp/ip in itself is kind of useless without the rest around it
[03:19] <rww> audreyr: liferea on GNOME, aKregator on KDE, Google Reader on the web
[03:19] <pokoko222> how do i get started with opengl in ubuntu?
[03:19] <Reikoku> I like Simple RSS
[03:19] <wolf9s> I don't know how to start, or where to start.
[03:19] <Kazilla> wolf9s: each computer is given a number. there, you've learnt it
[03:20] <rww> audreyr: oh, newsbeuter on command-line
[03:20] <celthunder> wolf9s: pick up a networking book ...
[03:20] <Reikoku> Kazilla: That doesn't really explain TCP/IP :P
[03:20] <celthunder> Kazilla: rofl
[03:20] <celthunder> Kazilla: that also describes udp and a bunch of other stuff
[03:20] <Reikoku> wolf9s: http://www.w3schools.com/tcpip/default.asp
[03:20] <wolf9s> Kazilla: What number?
[03:21] <jbermudes> Has anyone ever had their .bashrc file interpret a colon in a path declaration as a literal colon instead of a delimiter? I'm not using an escape character but it's still doing it :(
[03:21] <Reikoku> pokoko222: What are you trying to do with OpenGL?
[03:21] <audreyr> rww, Reikoku: thanks for the tips. trying liferea now :)
[03:22] <celthunder> audreyr: newsbeuter i've heard good things about snownews i've used and isn't terrible
[03:22] <pokoko222> Reikoku i will work through a book on graphics and it uses it
[03:22] <h00k> wolf9s: studying TCP/IP isn't an Ubuntu related question, perhaps try a networking channel
[03:22] <h00k> !alist | wolf9s
[03:22] <h00k> !alis | wolf9s
[03:22] <Reikoku> pokoko222: You're trying to program for opengl?
[03:22] <Reikoku> or you're trying to make it run? :P
[03:22] <wolf9s> 3Q everyone.
[03:23] <pokoko222> Reikoku i want to simply use opengl for graphics apps :)
[03:23] <audreyr> celthunder: cool, will try those too. I'm curious about if I'd like a command line rss reader
[03:23] <pokoko222> to write graphics stuff what else
[03:23] <Reikoku> pokoko222: If you want to write opengl you'll need some hefty books :P
[03:24] <Reikoku> If you just want to run stuff it should run natively on either proprietary driver or I believe ati opensource
[03:24] <pokoko222> Reikoku yeah but what library, what do i install on ubuntu
[03:24] <pokoko222> i guess then i should go to windows for this
[03:24] <Reikoku> Whichever proprietary video driver should work
[03:24] <Reikoku> They install their own implementations of libgl
[03:24] <Reikoku> You don't need to go to windows
[03:25] <jamescarr> the application launcher will not slide away
[03:26] <jamescarr> how can I make it slide away?
[03:26] <jamescarr> it is frustrating
[03:26] <kroq-gar78> hey guys. I think my laptop's HDD is dead. Is there any way to check? I'm on an uck-costomized Live Image running off a USB Card reader. can u help please?
[03:26] <jamescarr> it obstructs my view
[03:26] <kroq-gar78> jamescarr: do you have libreoffice open?
[03:26] <jamescarr> no
[03:27] <kroq-gar78> jamescarr: are you running 11.04 and Unity?
[03:27] <celthunder> kroq-gar78: e2fsck?
[03:27] <jamescarr> yes
[03:27] <jamescarr> kroq-gar78, yes
[03:27] <kroq-gar78> celthunder: how do I do that?
[03:27] <kroq-gar78> jamescarr: what programs do you have open? I remember libreoffice and 2 other programs cause that problem
[03:28] <kroq-gar78> though I can't remember the names of the other 2
[03:28] <rsyring> Just re-installed nvidia drivers after kernel upgrade, now my second monitor is not detected correctly.  Suggestions?
[03:30] <kroq-gar78> celthunder: ok my hdd doesn't even show up when I do "ls /dev/ | grep sd"
[03:30] <kroq-gar78> or in GParted?
[03:30] <Reikoku> Sounds phooked :(
[03:30] <jamescarr> damn it
[03:30] <kroq-gar78> jamescarr: ?
[03:30] <kroq-gar78> Reikoku: as in dead?
[03:30] <jamescarr> that app launcher
[03:31] <jamescarr> annoys the F out of me
[03:31] <klaxian> i did an update today and somehow my package management is now broken.  every apt-get command I do gives me something like "update-alternatives: error: alternative link /usr/share/man/man1/nvidia-xconfig.1.gz is already managed by x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf"
[03:31] <jamescarr> it will not go away unless I restart X
[03:31] <kroq-gar78> jamescarr: ah.... what programs do you have open?
[03:31] <Reikoku> kroq-gar78: Sounds like it :S
[03:31] <jamescarr> xchat, intelliJ, terminal and gvim
[03:31] <klaxian> everything gives me that alternatives error and i can't install or remove anyting
[03:31] <klaxian> any ideas?
[03:31] <kroq-gar78> jamescarr: ok, none I have ever encountered... try doing a quick google search: "unity launcher won't hide"
[03:31] <Jordan_U> kroq-gar78: Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[03:32] <klaxian> any way i can repair dpkg and/or apt?  apt-get -f doesn't help
[03:32] <Centallith> klaxian have you checked your software sources in the Ubuntu software center.
[03:33] <kroq-gar78> Jordan_U: sorry for the dumb question, but how do I pastebin? is there a "!pastebin" message that ubottu recognizes here in IRC?
[03:33] <kroq-gar78> !pastebin | kroq-gar78
[03:33] <klaxian> yes.  sources are good.  i did install nvidia-current from xswat ppa.  perhaps that caused the problem?
[03:33] <klaxian> tho now i can't remove it, can't change anything
[03:33] <klaxian> i tried installing nvidia-current from ubuntu repo and got the same problem
[03:34] <klaxian> i tried reinstalling libmesa and got the same error again
[03:34] <klaxian> i can't do anything with apt or dpkg without that error
[03:34] <kroq-gar78> Jordan_U: here is the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/646188/
[03:35] <hylian> anyone know why gnome 3 refuses to let you add programs to your favorites list in 10.04?
[03:36] <rww> hylian: GNOME 3 isn't in the official repositories for any current version of Ubuntu, and thus is not supported in #ubuntu.
[03:36] <Jordan_U> kroq-gar78: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -lu"?
[03:37] <hylian> rww, but i didn't have to install it, it is on ubuntu 10.04 vanilla... they have on the distro something they don't support?
[03:37] <rww> hylian: GNOME 3 is not on Ubuntu 10.04 vanilla.
[03:37] <hylian> rww, all you have to do is type gnome-shell --replace. don't have to download a thing.
[03:38] <rww> hylian: "gnome-shell" and "GNOME 3" are different things
[03:39] <hylian> rww, strange, this is a vanilla install, and when i type the command i geta very "gnome 3" ish looking gui. maybe i am getting somehting mixed up here?
[03:39] <rww> and in answer to "why doesn't gnome-shell 2.28 let you add programs to your favorites list", I say "I have no idea, but gnome-shell 2.28 is old and from back when gnome-shell was horrible, so don't use it"
[03:39] <kroq-gar78> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/646193/
[03:39] <rww> hylian: GNOME Shell is the default user interface for GNOME 3. The version of gnome-shell in lucid is from GNOME 2.28, when it wasn't default and was also terrible. gnome-shell is also not installed by default in Lucid, though it is in the repositories and thus supported here.
[03:39] <kroq-gar78> hylian: just for curiosity, run this: dpkg -s gnome-shell | grep Version
[03:40] <kroq-gar78> hylian: oh nevermnd
[03:40] <hylian> kroq-gar78, Version: 2.28.1~git20091125-1ubuntu0.2
[03:41] <kroq-gar78> hylian: yeah it's the default from lucid
[03:41] <hylian> kroq-gar78, well thanks for the help. hmm. i just wanted to try out gnome 3, since i am not a huge unity fan.
[03:41] <Centallith> doesn't sudo apt-get install gnome-session from a recovery console solve all of this or am I missing the point?
[03:42] <hylian> Centallith, yeah, i cna get back, but I am not trying too. :) i want to see what gnome 3 is like.
[03:42] <Klevi|PC> This is something that should be damn simple but i've never managed to figure it out. How can I execute a desktop shortcut on a computer I'm SSHing into?
[03:43] <Centallith> It's nice, I used it for a while hylian. Now I am on kde and loving it.
[03:43] <hylian> ok thanks all for letting me pick ur brains! :)
[03:44] <hylian> Centallith, if i could somehow get kde3, then maybe. i ran to gnome from kde4 because of how prettified it is. if i could somehow remove all the pretty from kde 4, then i would be happy again.
[03:44] <kroq-gar78> hylian: unity isn't in 10.04, unless you want to upgrade to 11.04 or 10.10 )netbook)
[03:44] <rww> StarSky_1: FloodBot1 is not sentient.
[03:44] <hylian> kroq-gar78, yeah, not interested. i like to stay with the lts's. i hate unity, which is why I am trying out gnome 3.
[03:45] <Centallith> if you are not looking for pretty then Gnome 3 isn't the answer. It is more prettified than KDE 4.
[03:45] <kroq-gar78> hylian: ah cool
[03:45] <Neoncamouflage> In terms of function over looks, Gnome 3 better than Gnome 2.x?
[03:45] <hylian> Centallith, yeah, but i have limited choices here. i am not willing to go lxde, for instance. gnome 2 is here for a finite time only.
[03:45] <RenatoSilva> thanks all
[03:46] <kroq-gar78> hylian: there's also xfce4 and kde. I prefer xfce
[03:46] <Centallith> hylian have you tried Enlightenment 17? it is not as pretty.
[03:47] <hylian> Centallith, yeah, not my first choice either. to be honest the one i hate the least is currently gnome 3. If i  could leave it gnome 2 forever, that would be fine with me.
[03:47] <rww> wait for Ubuntu 11.10, install GNOME Shell, enable GNOME 3 Fallback
[03:48] <Centallith> Yeah, as of right now Gnome 3 is a bad option. Super unstable. Wait for oneric.
[03:48] <rww> at which point it will be slightly less super unstable
[03:48] <hylian> rww, good idea, but i am gonna wait till 12.04. i like the lts versions the best.
[03:48] <rww> that works too
[03:48] <hylian> thanks all for heaing me out.
[03:49]  * hylian wishes gnome 2 would be picked up by some peeps, and re named so i can use it 4 ever.
[03:50] <MidnightFox> allo folks
[03:51] <MidnightFox> i have a question if any one might be up to the task in helping me with it
[03:51] <rww> best to ask it and see if anyone is :P
[03:52] <MidnightFox> ok i'm a windows user, go on laugh at me but i'm mainly a gamer and most of my games require windows, how ever it's taht time of year where i need to do a full reinstall of everything to clean out the computer of all it's junk files.
[03:53] <Centallith> Go on...
[03:54] <peayness> is there a help channel
[03:54] <aku_> apakah ada yang bisa membaca tulisanku?
[03:54] <Centallith> You found it.
[03:54] <MidnightFox> i have 2 HDD's one is a 1.5TB HDD the other is a empty 250GB HDD. can i take a short cut and change the boot order in the bios so that the 250GB HDD is read first so i can just install Win7 on there w/o having to wipe out the win7 instal thats on the 1.5TH HDD
[03:54] <rww> !id | aku_
[03:54] <mnewton> Can someone help me with security on Ubuntu. How do i make it so a program cant use the internet? Does ubuntu have a firewall preinstalled or do i need to get one?
[03:55] <rww> !ufw
[03:55] <peayness> is there any utility availiable to give more control over a laptop touchpad
[03:55] <Centallith> Or download firestarter. Good firewall GUI with an install wizard and everything.
[03:56] <peayness> running ubuntu
[03:56] <aku_> bagaimana cara mendapatkan brouser conkueror KDE?
[03:56] <rww> aku_: English here, please.
[03:57] <rww> Zimsky: please don't CTCP our bots, btw. It makes them angry. You won't like them when they're angry.
[03:57] <Guest89868> :bn
[03:57] <aku_> why to the KDE brouser
[03:57] <MidnightFox> i only ask cause if i can take this short cut, it would save me hours in moving and burning files to DVD
[03:58] <rww> MidnightFox: Perhaps you're looking for ##windows?
[03:59] <MidnightFox> i didn't know that channel was there, forgive me.
[04:00] <peayness> i need mouse help
[04:00] <peayness> is there any utility availiable to give more control over a laptop touchpad
[04:01] <Chiku|dc> hi I got problem with make install http://www.pastie.org/2229786
[04:01] <LordDragon> hey all
[04:02] <LordDragon> i am using ubuntu on my mac. it seems 11.04 has built in HFS filesystem drivers. i can read files and stuff off my mac drive
[04:02] <LordDragon> however, some stuff i cant access
[04:02] <LordDragon> certain folders are locked
[04:02] <LordDragon> how can i access them?
[04:03] <LordDragon> i think the last time i went through this, i had to change the user permission number on my ubuntu install partition to make it recognize apple's premission number or smoething
[04:04] <Centallith> sudo nautilus and then change permissions.
[04:04] <Centallith> Just don't do it to /var
[04:04] <xangua> !gksu | Centallith
[04:05] <LordDragon> Centallith, what do i change the permissions on? everything except /var in ubuntu ?
[04:05] <Centallith> On EVERYTHING? Well in that case you would need to make your account root.
[04:05] <Centallith> You can do so in user account settings.
[04:06] <starlon> What tool can I use to check my hard drive for errors?
[04:06] <eagleserver> fsck
[04:06] <LordDragon> i think last time i rebooted the computer into root, then globally changed the permission level number on my ubuntu partition to match the mac's drive permissions
[04:06] <LordDragon> but i dont remeber what number that is
[04:07] <eagleserver> starlon, man fsck in terminal
[04:07] <starlon> kk
[04:07] <kalinka> hi, I'm having problem with ld command, although I have put library path to both /etc/ld.so.conf.d/mylib.conf and the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable into .bashrc and run the command sudo ldconfig. ld still cannot find my library
[04:07] <kalinka> the library name is libcuda.so
[04:07] <kalinka> in /usr/lib/nvidia-current
[04:08] <kalinka> I can see it clearly there
[04:08] <Jordan_U> starlon: Fsck will check the *filesystem*, which may be what you want. smartctrl will check the drive (as in check for hardware problems with the drive).
[04:08] <starlon> Oh yeah that's what I want to do; check the hardware for problems. Thanks.
[04:09] <starlon> Do I need to run that from the live cd?
[04:09] <Jordan_U> starlon: No. And if you prefer a GUI you can use "Disk Utility", which comes with Ubuntu.
[04:09] <starlon> kk thanks :)
[04:09] <Jordan_U> starlon: You're welcome :)
[04:10] <LordDragon> how can i change the userID on an account from a root shell? whats the command
[04:13]  * RenatoSilva has recovered his PS1, pretty much like it was originally.  What does this do?
[04:14] <rww> Neoncamouflage: "done" is the closing statement of a bash "do" loop.
[04:15] <plustax> having an issue. I click skype to open it and use it. The icon with an x in it goes to my taskbar and Im not able to use the program or launch its interface
[04:15] <rww> (used with for, while, until, etc.)
[04:15] <Neoncamouflage> See, stupid question. :P Thanks rww.
[04:15] <RenatoSilva> Neoncamouflage: not sure but done is end of while statement, for example
[04:15] <plustax> I tried uninstalling skype and reinstalling to no avail
[04:16] <Neoncamouflage> I have one of the scripts up looking at it and there is a do loop in it, so that makes sense.
[04:16] <RenatoSilva> Neoncamouflage: you sounded like a single done alone at the end of file out of nothing :P
[04:17] <Neoncamouflage> RenatoSilva: That's what I thought they were, I had no idea why people were putting them there. Not very far into bash scripting just yet myself.
[04:17] <rww> Neoncamouflage: fyi, #bash is probably more useful for bash questions
[04:18] <Neoncamouflage> I didn't know that channel existed, will join now. Thanks. :)
[04:18] <plustax> anyone help me?
[04:18] <goma> Hello. I'm configuring ufw with gufw and I want to Deny everything Outgoing except HTTP and SSL - how do i do this?
[04:19] <nit-wit> plustax, never used skype personally but I assume you can make a launcher
[04:19] <nit-wit> plustax, if it is installed corectly.
[04:19] <plustax> it is indeed.
[04:19] <plustax> I just cant run it
[04:20] <nit-wit> plustax, do you know how to make a launcher
[04:20] <plustax> yeah I made one
[04:20] <plustax> still doesnt work
[04:20] <plustax> even opening it from terminal doesnt work
[04:20] <plustax> It puts the skype icon in my taskbar but its gray and has an x through it.
[04:20] <nit-wit> plustax, is it/usr/bin/skype
[04:20] <plustax> I can screencap if need be
[04:21] <goma> hello
[04:21] <goma> !ufw
[04:21] <plustax> nit-wit, I just looked
[04:21] <plustax> its not in there
[04:22] <nit-wit> plustax, I'm not familiar with skype so the lauch I suspect is nopt there, sorry  don't really know.
[04:22] <nit-wit> *not
[04:23] <punkinhell> HEY GUYS, HERE IS A PROBLEM THAT I WOULD NEED HELP FOR......I HAVE A SET OF FILES IN SERVER1 AND SAME SET OF FILE BUT WITH UPDATED DATA IN SERVER2....I NEED TO SYNC BOTH THE SET FO FILES...HOW DO I DO THAT....R8 NOW I JUST FTP INTO IT AND JUST COPY THE FILES...... I'M SURE THERE MUST BE AN ELEGANT SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM SINCE I JUST HAVE TO UPDATE THE SET OF FILES INSTEAD OF COPYING THEM IN WHOLE....
[04:23] <goma> I'm setting up the firewall. I don't want to allow everything out. What should I whitelist? I tried whitelisting ports 443 and 80 - but I couldn't access the internet. Why?
[04:24] <rww> punkinhell: I strongly recommend you toggle your capslock key off.
[04:25] <punkinhell> rww : i just wanted to highlight my question
[04:25] <alexleon> hello i think i have a java problem in my firefox nd i go to java website nd it says i need to update
[04:25] <Neoncamouflage> punkinhell: That's not highlighting, that's making people not read it.
[04:25] <Centallith> Well that is the wrong way to do it.
[04:26] <RenatoSilva> yay http://i.imgur.com/3hEQf.png
[04:26] <punkinhell> Neoncamouflage : should i repost the question then??
[04:26] <nit-wit> plustax, I found this link you may find it helpul, not sure. http://ubuntuguide.net/install-skype-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-3264-bit
[04:26] <Centallith> Revise it a bit, reduce the yelling, then sure.
[04:27] <RenatoSilva> how to run a command after a sudo automatically?
[04:27] <Neoncamouflage> ^This
[04:27] <LordDragon> hey all
[04:27] <LordDragon> how can i tell if im running the 64 bit version of ubuntu or the 32 bit version?
[04:28] <rww> LordDragon: What's the output of uname -m?
[04:28] <LordDragon> i686
[04:28] <rww> LordDragon: 32-bit
[04:28] <LordDragon> 32 bit i guess then
[04:28] <LordDragon> are there are advantages to running 64 bit version?
[04:29] <Centallith> Minor increase in processing power and speed I believe.
[04:30] <prt1990> hey
[04:30] <prt1990> hii
[04:30] <LordDragon> oh ok. i didnt think i could get more than 4gb of ram in 32bit
[04:30] <LordDragon> but it seems to show all 12Gb
[04:30] <rww> !pae
[04:30] <rww> Ubuntu detects RAM size and installs the PAE kernel if it's useful.
[04:30] <LordDragon> oh. i must be using the PAE then
[04:31] <LordDragon> coolness
[04:31] <LordDragon> brb
[04:32] <jonathon> What is the best way to burn an *.mkv file to DVD? I tried Devede but the formating wasn't right, my DVD player read disc error and computer played empty file.
[04:32] <Neoncamouflage> rww, So if Ubuntu automatically installs the PAE kernel, there's really no point in installing 64 over 32, right? As you take advantage of the extra RAM regardless.
[04:33]  * Descriptioned Good Morning.
[04:33] <BryanWB> how can i disable multiple system services at once? i knew how to do this w/ sysv init scripts but no idea for upstart jobs
[04:33] <rww> nothingspecial: for most users, there is no noticible difference in performance between 32-bit with PAE and 64-bit, no.
[04:34] <rww> nothingspecial: sorry, mistab
[04:34] <rww> Neoncamouflage: ^^
[04:34] <Neoncamouflage> lol
[04:34] <BryanWB> $ sudo update-rc.d -f service_name remove   # but how to do the same for upstart jobs?
[04:35] <rww> BryanWB: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[04:36] <BryanWB> rww, ouch that's pretty crude, tks
[04:51] <bullgard4> What is the function of my Natty directory /tmp/virtual-<username><6-digit_random_ID>? It is empty.
[04:55] <majuk_> Hey all. General question: I have a collection of MP3s, most are VBR but some aren't. Anyone know a command line tool that can tell me which are encoded in VBR?
[04:55] <shareef> hi everyone.. can anyone tell me what would be the best appleIIgs emulator for ubuntu?
[04:55] <majuk_> 'file' just says they're 128kbps
[04:58] <weda> hi
[04:58] <m0n> hi guys. Wondering if i could get some help with ubuntu 11.04 and bluetooth/wireless issue on my laptop. Wireless works fine, but the bluetooth side of the wireless card does not work. Any help at all would be much appreciated. Laptop is a Toshiba NB550D
[05:05] <syclopse> is anybody having good experience is qt.?
[05:06] <syclopse> I am facing problem in displaying image captured from the webcam in qt
[05:11] <Jordan_U> syclopse: #qt would be a better place to ask.
[05:12] <syclopse> jordan_u: can i have link for that.?
[05:13] <tripelb> Hi, I found lxdream_0.9.1_i386.deb the Dreamcast emulator on a web page. What is the correct method of installing it? I normally use apt-get
[05:14] <Jordan_U> syclopse: You are on a chat network with multiple channels. Right now you are in the channel "#ubuntu", which is for Ubuntu support questions. This is another channel, "#qt", for qt support. To join the channel #qt type "/join #qt" into your client (without the quotes).
[05:16] <C_Smith> hey, I can't start Transmission, and I on the System Monitor, I notice Transmission starts up as "Transmission GTK", and I also have a process called Transmission GT that I can't kill (it had been labeled as "Zombie" before I even tried ending the process), is there anything short of relogging that can fix this?
[05:17] <C_Smith> I'd prefer not to relog because I'm installing a bunch of software.
[05:18] <tertl3> C_Smith, sudo system-monitor, then kill it
[05:18] <C_Smith> ok
[05:19] <tertl3> that work?
[05:19] <mr_as_khan> hi guys
[05:19] <mr_as_khan> i need help
[05:20] <saptarshi> Ex-Chat
[05:21] <mr_as_khan> when i call from skype my system stop working  (work very slowly) could you help me
[05:21] <k_sze> What GUI text editor is there for Xubuntu that supports multiple character encodings?
[05:21] <k_sze> e.g. GB18030, Big5, etc.
[05:21] <mr_as_khan> i  also tells you this is happening after i install updates
[05:23] <C_Smith> well, sudo system-monitor does nothing, and sudo gnome-system-monitor brings it up, but only shows the processes that are root.
[05:24] <C_Smith> in other words, sudo doesn't fix this,
[05:24] <C_Smith> I tried killing it via Terminal naming it's pid, and that did nothing.
[05:24] <intlkleinblue> I just reinstalled Evolution after uninstalling it yesterday
[05:25] <intlkleinblue> never tried it before, I assumed it was as bloated as it was when I tried it ~10 months ago
[05:25] <intlkleinblue> but after looking for alternatives and getting discouraged, I reinstalled it
[05:25] <intlkleinblue> however, the whole message thing in the notification area is gone now
[05:25] <intlkleinblue> how do I bring it back for Evolution now?
[05:27] <m0n> intlkleinblue, did you install evolution-plugins? there should be a notifications/indicator plugin for it.
[05:27] <tripelb> what does THIS do?   sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[05:27] <m0n> tripelb, that installs a debian package
[05:27] <m0n> i believe
[05:28] <C_Smith> tripelb, that installs a .deb package via dpkg.
[05:28] <m0n> :)
[05:29] <m0n> i'm going to repeate myself, but i haven't received a response to this question yet...
[05:29] <m0n> hi guys. Wondering if i could get some help with ubuntu 11.04 and bluetooth/wireless issue on my laptop. Wireless works fine, but the bluetooth side of the wireless card does not work. Any help at all would be much appreciated. Laptop is a Toshiba NB550D.
[05:29] <uRock> !bluetooth
[05:29] <tripelb> ok mon mOn m0n  I want to install ... lxdream_0.9.1_i386.deb .. It's a Dreamcast emulator.  [guess everthing runs fine so I'm stepping out.]
[05:30] <tripelb> ubottu's bluetooth link does not work
[05:30] <uRock> shame on ubottu
[05:30] <tripelb> oops works the second time
[05:30] <tripelb> shame on me
[05:30] <uRock> lol
[05:30] <tripelb> or ?
[05:31] <uRock> WorkForMe(TM)
[05:32] <tripelb> how do I install lxdream_0.9.1_i386.deb  .. someone on #reddit said do  sudo dpkg -i package.deb  --- my experience is sudo apt-get ----- so I'm branching out.
[05:32] <uRock> the sudo dpkg command looks correct
[05:32] <dunbar> what happened when you sudo dpkg -i lxdream_0.9.1_i386.deb?
[05:33] <m0n> tripelb, what you would do is sudo dpkg -i lxdream.0.9.1_i386.deb
[05:33] <C_Smith> so, I couldn't get sudo gnome-system-monitor to show the transmission-gt process, but when run regularly, the process is still there, any other suggestions?
[05:33] <m0n> depending on the installer you may need some extra options but generally that should do it.
[05:33] <C_Smith> like I said, I tried killing it via command line, and that didn't do anything.
[05:33] <tripelb> ah so.. m0n
[05:34] <tripelb> ty m0n
[05:34] <m0n> ;)
[05:34] <uRock> C_Smith: do you have htop installed
[05:34] <C_Smith> not to my knowledge, no.
[05:34] <uRock> it is like top, but prettier and makes killing things via CLI much easier
[05:34] <uRock> to install it just run sudo apt-get htop
[05:34] <m0n> uRock, i've run through that... it has a bluetooth module installed, bluez is installed etc etc, it's just that the bluetooth module does NOT work. Says bluetooth is disabled, click on the turn on bluetooth button it blanks out.
[05:35] <C_Smith> well, I'd install it if I didn't have 45 games installing via the software center.
[05:35] <m0n> i've read somewhere that the ID for the bluetooth module loads the incorrect (toshiba_bluetooth) module when it should load the ath3k module
[05:35] <tripelb> m0n it "cannot access archive" (It's on a webpage not in an archive.)
[05:35] <C_Smith> and it's tough to stop that many.
[05:35] <uRock> m0n, I own no bluetooth stuffs, so I can't be of much help there
[05:36] <m0n> fair enough. *sigh* funny thing is it works perfectly fine in xubuntu.... :(
[05:36] <uRock> eek, that is a lot of stuff to have going at the same time in USC
[05:36] <C_Smith> 45 packages including mostly games, and the Kubuntu and Xubuntu desktop environments.
[05:36] <m0n> tripelb,  you will need to save the deb package to your computer
[05:36] <m0n> then run the command
[05:36] <uRock> C_Smith: do you have a SNickers bar, you aren't going anywhere for a while
[05:36] <C_Smith> guess I'll wait till tomorrow, restart, and see if this persists,
[05:37] <tripelb> m0n at what location will the dpkg package expect to find the file of interest. Ie where should I put it.
[05:37] <m0n> c_smith i find that using cli for installing packages to be MUCH quicker and more descriptive than the software centre gui
[05:37] <C_Smith> I know, it's getting late here, so I'll just let it run overnight, hopefully it aint still running that torrent.... kinda doubt it as the process is labeled as zombies.
[05:37] <m0n> anywhere.... more than likely save it to your downloads folder
[05:38] <C_Smith> I'm not afraid to use command line (if that's what you're talking about) IF I know the package I'm looking for,
[05:38] <m0n> then start up terminal, go to your downloads folder and run the package.
[05:39] <C_Smith> but for just browsing, I use software center, I just use command line for installing everything else, VB, SBM, etc.
[05:39] <m0n> fair enuff C_Smith, if i find a package i like, i generally put it into a text file, and when i rebuild my box i have a recollection of software i like and can quickly do it via CLI
[05:39]  * m0n shrugs
[05:39] <C_Smith> same here,
[05:40] <C_Smith> sometimes I have to use the net to find the repo if the repo changed, though, but I tend to use apt-get, A LOT.
[05:40] <C_Smith> well, I'm off, gonna see if this process persists in not being killable tomorrow.
[05:41] <dunbar> so did it install tripelb?
[05:42] <bullgard4_> What is the function of my empty Natty directory /tmp/virtual-<username><6-digit_random_ID>?
[05:42] <tripelb> dunbar, I dont know where to put it so that dpkg will find the file. Do you know where?
[05:43] <dunbar> where is it now
[05:44] <m0n> tripelb,  download the file to your downloads directory (eg /home/<yourusernamehere>/Downloads
[05:44] <tripelb> NP will do that m0n
[05:44] <sunit> I am giving sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.4 restart and getting sudo: must be setuid root. please help
[05:44] <thomi> Does anyone know how I can find out "what packages were updated on my system yesterday"?
[05:45] <m0n> then go to your terminal and type in cd /home/<yourusernamehere/Downloads press enter, then type in sudo dpkg -i <thefileofthe.deb>
[05:46] <navigator76> ciao
[05:46] <Jordan_U> thomi: Look in /var/log/dpkg.log
[05:46] <thomi> Jordan_U: thanks
[05:46] <Jordan_U> thomi: You're welcome.
[05:47] <tharaka> hi I need a help on installing apc. I tried sudo pecl install apc. but it gives me an error saying sh: phpize: not found
[05:47] <tharaka> ERROR: `phpize' failed
[05:47] <tharaka> what is the reason for that
[05:47] <tharaka> can anyone help me please
[05:50] <tharaka> hi can anyone help me please???
[05:52] <tripelb> m0n, success (it's happening) but: I downloaded it and still It could not find it. Then I looked and I couldnt find it either. So I was clicking on the download link at the bottom of the webpage to see if there were 2 folders named Downloads and it started installing. (no argueing with success bu it's baffeling)
[05:52] <bullgard4_> thomi: Use Synaptic > File > History > July2011 > 07/17/2011
[05:53] <`blackmk4> would someone mind answering a few questions about briding adapters under linux?
[05:53] <m0n> tripelb, cool. Once it's fully downloaded try using terminal to run the package install ;)
[05:53] <Lasers> bullgard4_: How will you do it once synaptic is phased out of default installations (in the future)?
[05:54] <tripelb> I clicked install on the gui thing already.
[05:54] <tripelb> m0n
[05:54] <m0n> ah or that will do
[05:54] <m0n> heh
[05:54] <m0n> i'm a CLI kind of guy ;)
[05:54] <bullgard4_> Lasers: I will install Synaptic by hand.
[05:54] <punkinhell> is there any command in FTP to transfer only the updated portions of files like the rsync command???
[05:55] <thomi> punkinhell: No, I'm pretty sure there's not.
[05:55] <Dulak> punkinhell: no, for ftp you have to retransmit the entire file to get updates
[05:55] <arunkumar413> synaptic not showing the latest version of chromium browser inspite of reloading. The installed version is 12 and the latest version is 14
[05:55] <tyl> hi is it possible to use httpd.conf instead of apache.conf?
[05:56] <punkinhell> but i see that rsync is much slower than normal FTP
[05:56] <tyl> the default configuration forces apache2 to use apache2.conf instead of httpd.conf
[05:56] <fips4d> hi
[05:56] <tripelb> m0n do I have to start it from terminal. I suppose I need to learn that for myself. My camera doesnt work in skype unless I start skype from terminal.  My cam does work in omegle as I found out. they should call it "bag o' dicks" tho. I could tell they could see me. They kept clicking off. Or askig for boobs. I kept clicking off too. It waa boring.
[05:56] <m0n> so in looking for a fix for my bluetooth it seems that ubuntu assigns my bluetooth the incorrect driver. It tries to use toshiba_bluetooth when it should be using ath3k (being a AR3011 bluetooth card). Any one know how to get this working?
[05:56] <tripelb> Oh a0n , apologies for off-topic. hangs head
[05:56] <bullgard4_> punkinhell: I grepped for »update« in 'man ftp' and got no output.
[05:57] <punkinhell> well thanks guys, just thought i should ask around b4 reinventing the wheel
[05:57] <m0n> tripelb not sure. probably not. i've never really had to install a deb package tbh ;)
[05:58] <fips4d> i'm getting this error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/441240/
[05:58] <fips4d> what's the issue?
[05:58] <tripelb> m0n, now how do I start it? will it be in the menus?
[05:59] <arunkumar413> hi friends, i'm unable to update the chromium browser. plz help
[06:00] <tripelb> m0n, it's not in wine. I think I'll go look at the help pages. THanks.
[06:00] <tripelb> arunkumar413, it updates itself.
[06:04] <bhuey> what's an easy way of setting up NAT on my machine ? URL ?
[06:04] <madmn> is there a centos channel i have a problem trying to connect my wireless
[06:06] <madmn> is there a centos channel i have a problem trying to connect my wireless
[06:06] <bullgard4_> bhuey: You usually do not set up NAT on  your machine but rather on your router.
[06:06] <dunbar> its #centos
[06:07] <bhuey> bullgard4_: I prefer my machine for better networking control
[06:09] <ozatomic> hi guys, when i start my system i get the message "mountall: disconnected from plymouth" what is this from
[06:09] <thomi> Hi, on the 15th I installed the latest updates, which included a new Qt version,  linux kernel, and video drivers, end ever since then my window decoration theme in unity looks really ugly. Has anyone here heard about this before? Does anyone know what the issue might be?
[06:09] <tripelb> m0n, can I pm you?
[06:10] <eagleserver> madmn, whats problem?
[06:10] <m0n> sure
[06:10] <m0n> sorry at work so doing 2 things at once
[06:10] <madmn> i am trying to connect my wireless in centos i have the live cd but i am not having any luck
[06:10] <madmn> i am back in ubuntu trying to get info on how i can do that
[06:11] <soulis77-SE> Hi all, a very basic question. I'm installing a new VPS server and want to disable root login. Now before that I need to set up a new user account. I want to know which permissions the user should have? I also would like to be able to edit files, install software and reboot system.
[06:12] <madmn> why would you not want root soulis77-SE
[06:12] <bhuey> anybody here know about setting up static interfaces directly ? is /etc/network/interfaces deprecated ?
[06:13] <Autodidactite> Does anyone know why in 10.04 the "Keep Aligned" option is still stuck on
[06:13] <Autodidactite> ?
[06:13] <astraljava> bhuey: If you use NetworkManager, then yes. You need to do that by using the nm-applet.
[06:13] <bhuey> what about via command line remotely ?
[06:13] <Myrtti> madmn: ubuntu has root disabled
[06:14] <Autodidactite> madmn, sudo is your friend
[06:14] <soulis77-SE> madmn: Easier to hack, or well they know the username. It is a server, remote host, not my local computer.
[06:14] <Dulak> bhuey: it's not deprecated, but any interface setup in /etc/network/interfaces won't be managed by network manager.
[06:14] <fips4d> i'm getting this error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/441240/
[06:14] <fips4d> what's the issue?
[06:14] <Dulak> bhuey: so it's either/or, not deprecated.
[06:15] <madmn> what would your user that create need to do then soulis77-SE
[06:15] <bullgard4_> bhuey: Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation. Having done so, please put here in this channel a more specific question.
[06:16] <Flannel> bullgard4_: I don't think that's relevant.
[06:16] <madmn> soulis77-SE, you can set the permissions for the new user that you make and give any access to that user that you want that user to have
[06:16] <bullgard4_> Flannel: Ah! What do you think is relevant?
[06:16] <soulis77-SE> madmn: install, remove software, edit most files, reboot system, setting up LAMP. So Sudo is needed
[06:17] <madmn> its pretty easy to give that kinda access to a user
[06:17] <sloth> Can someone tell me how to scan my network for the ip adresses of the other users?
[06:17] <madmn> just be carefull who you give access to what
[06:18] <soulis77-SE> madmn: Yes but I then want to disable root login but don't want to lock myself out from the system by mot be able to edit the sshd_config
[06:18] <Autodidactite> sloth, nmap
[06:18] <bullgard4_> sloth: nmap
[06:18] <Flannel> bhuey: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/net-fixed-ip-address.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html#static-ip-addressing gives you GUI and manual methods of setting static IPs (it still uses /etc/network/interfaces)
[06:18] <Dulak> sloth: arp -n
[06:18] <KeLv_MaNu> Sloth, access your router and you can view the ip
[06:18] <Autodidactite> Yes arp also
[06:18] <sloth> yes but how do i see their PC names?
[06:18] <sloth> it only shows me there are 3 active hosts
[06:18] <sloth> not whos who
[06:18] <madmn> as far as i know soulis77-SE root is disabled by default
[06:18] <Autodidactite> Some don't do that KeLv_MaNu
[06:19] <Dulak> sloth: find the ip, then run 'smbclient -L ip.address.here'
[06:19] <madmn> the user that you made when you installed should be close to root
[06:19] <KeLv_MaNu> ah ok
[06:19] <madmn> then you can do such commands
[06:19] <sloth> I can't find the ip
[06:19] <soulis77-SE> madmn: No this is a VPS server set up by a Service Provider. My only way of access is the root at the moment.
[06:19] <madmn> and if the need be you can use su do for the stuff you need
[06:19] <Autodidactite> sloth, I believe nmap will tell you there computer names, even the OS type
[06:19] <sloth> whats the nmap command to list them, if there is
[06:20] <KeLv_MaNu> with my router i can view the ip addresses of the pcs that are connected to my network
[06:20] <madmn> is this ubuntu box soulis77-SE
[06:20] <WarOp> Just curious with ubuntu 10.10 are you still able to configure the login window wallpaper
[06:20] <sloth> It does Autodidactite but i can't isolte their IPs
[06:20] <Autodidactite> Cool, KeLv_MaNu is it a Netgear?
[06:20] <soulis77-SE> madmn: 10.04
[06:20] <KeLv_MaNu> nope, D-Link
[06:21] <Autodidactite> I don't know exactly what you mean sloth
[06:21] <WarOp> I know if you went into Login Window in 8.10 then it'd allow you to install custom login windows
[06:21] <sloth> ok, I want to find the ip adress of my brothers computer
[06:21] <Autodidactite> Cool KeLv_MaNu, yes I have seen that in D-Link also
[06:21] <bullgard4_> sloth: For example ~$ nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24 obtains with me the hostnames also.
[06:22] <sloth> i'
[06:22] <sloth> i'll try it
[06:22] <Autodidactite> Can you sit at your brothers computer sloth?
[06:22] <sloth> I can, but thats not the point
[06:22] <sloth> i want to know how to do it remotely
[06:22] <Autodidactite> Sure of course
[06:23] <Dulak> I told you how to do it.
[06:23] <WarOp> Use a sniffer
[06:24] <Dulak> bullgard4_ also gave you a good way to do it
[06:24] <bhuey> Flannel: what about command line ? this is a remote machine
[06:25] <Flannel> bhuey: See the second link, the serverguide one.
[06:26] <bullgard4_> What is the function of my empty Natty directory /tmp/virtual-<username><6-digit_random_ID>?
[06:27] <Autodidactite> So no one knows why the "Keep Aligned" option is still stuck on in 11.04?
[06:28] <ossnoss> Couldn't get my d-link wifi to work at all. Had to plug right in.
[06:28] <Autodidactite> That can happen
[06:29] <Autodidactite> I have found D-Link to be very buggy
[06:29] <m0n> i've found alot of manufacturers to have very buggy linux support
[06:29] <m0n> atheros, d-link to name a few.... :P
[06:29] <KeLv_MaNu> thats true m0n
[06:30] <Autodidactite> True m0n but Modems/ Router are OS agnostic
[06:30] <KeLv_MaNu> linux always left behind
[06:30] <fips4d> i'm getting this error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/441240/
[06:30] <fips4d> what's the issue?
[06:30] <ossnoss> I haven't used linux in years, just installed this ubuntu now on my windows box. I'm liking what I see so far.
[06:31] <m0n> Autodidactite, this is true.
[06:31] <saikat> hi all
[06:31] <Autodidactite> It's all in the browser
[06:31] <Autodidactite> Hi there saikat
[06:31] <KeLv_MaNu> hi saikat welcome
[06:31] <Autodidactite> Cool ossnoss
[06:32] <Autodidactite> I only use Ubuntu Linux nowadays
[06:32] <saikat> I have a problem in ubuntu 11.04
[06:32] <Autodidactite> I just got sick of dealing with Windows hoo har
[06:32] <Autodidactite> What problem is that saikat?
[06:33] <KeLv_MaNu> Winsucks
[06:33] <KeLv_MaNu> xD
[06:33] <Autodidactite> Microshaft Windblows
[06:33] <saikat> Is there any way to recover the user passwd in ubuntu 11.04?
[06:34] <Autodidactite> Not that I am aware of saikat
[06:34] <Dulak> saikat: you can boot recovery mode and then change the password, but it'd be really hard to recover the password
[06:34] <saikat> i have forgotten the passwd & also not able to log in in single user mode as the menu is in hidden option
[06:35] <Autodidactite> saikat, any other accounts on the system?
[06:35] <saikat> no
[06:35] <Dulak> saikat: hold down left shift as it boots to get the grub menu
[06:35] <KeLv_MaNu> log in as root if you know the pass
[06:35] <saikat> root user has not created
[06:36] <KeLv_MaNu> the root user is always there
[06:36] <KeLv_MaNu> i guess
[06:36] <sunit> I am trying to run postgres and getting error as Insecure directory in $ENV{PATH} while running with -T switch at /usr/bin/pg_ctlcluster line 63.                                                                          [fail]
[06:36] <Flannel> saikat: LiveCD
[06:36] <Dulak> it's there just locked with no password
[06:37] <Autodidactite> I didn't know you could do that KeLv_MaNu. Nice one, I have never had to that
[06:37] <terxx> \quit
[06:38] <saikat> in recovery mode there i found a option....its root.,...Drop to root shell promt
[06:38] <KeLv_MaNu> hehe
[06:38] <saikat> i think i can change the passwd now
[06:38] <KeLv_MaNu> its like login as admin in windows to erase the user pw
[06:38] <Autodidactite> Cool
[06:38] <Autodidactite> I must remember this
[06:39] <saikat> thanks every one
[06:40] <saikat> i change the user passwd now
[06:40] <soulis77-SE> When disable the root login, Can I still log in as another user and then thange to root? Or to use su command for root account?
[06:40] <KeLv_MaNu> nice saikat ;-)
[06:40] <KeLv_MaNu> soulis, i guess you can use su command
[06:41] <Blue1> you prolly want to use su -
[06:41] <Myrtti> soulis77-SE: use sudo for everything
[06:41] <Myrtti> soulis77-SE: not su
[06:41] <KeLv_MaNu> yes sudo
[06:41] <KeLv_MaNu> su is for login as super user
[06:42] <Blue1> KeLv_MaNu: yes - but there is a diff between su and su -
[06:42] <KeLv_MaNu> i didnt knew that blue
[06:42] <Dulak> sudo -i
[06:42] <Myrtti> Blue1: and su - is not encouraged either
[06:42] <Dulak> not su, not su -, use 'sudo -i'
[06:43] <KeLv_MaNu> and the "-i" is for?
[06:43] <Dulak> interactive shell
[06:43] <al_nz1> whats wrong with sshfs<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-p 443 /mnt/windows ? I get mssing host error?
[06:43] <KeLv_MaNu> oohh
[06:44] <Dulak> it gives you a properly configured root shell, which su doesn't always do.
[06:44] <Blue1> Dulak: yes
[06:44] <soulis77-SE> ok, but I want to disable root login from ssh but still be able to access the account. Can I login as xxxx and the su - to root ?
[06:44] <KeLv_MaNu> good to know that blue, thx
[06:44] <fips4d> i'm getting this error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/441240/
[06:44] <soulis77-SE> Or will it be locked since i disable root loginb?
[06:44] <fips4d> what's the issue?
[06:45] <Blue1> al_nz1: not sure but isn't 443 used by samba?
[06:45] <Lasers> fips4d: "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" -- and you tried to use Debian package on Ubuntu system.
[06:45] <sloth> so... how do i reveal the active ips through a scan?
[06:45] <KeLv_MaNu> soulis you can still use the sudo command
[06:46] <Dulak> soulis77-SE: if you disable root in sshd_config, you can still be root, you just can't login directly as root.  If however you lock root with system tools, you cannot use su, and would only be able to use sudo
[06:47] <soulis77-SE> Ok, thanks everyone. I'm disable root login in sshd_config and login as another user and then change to su - whenever needed.
[06:47] <soulis77-SE> eeShe6ai!
[06:48] <soulis77-SE> is not a good passoword for a root account. Or how many signs do you all use?  10, 15 or more?
[06:49] <Myrtti> soulis77-SE: ubuntu doesn't come with root password enabled
[06:49] <lonix> soulis77-SE: dont use a root password
[06:49] <wildbat> soulis77-SE: why not just sudo -i or -s ~?
[06:50] <Dulak> enabling root is just opening an attack vector for no good reason
[06:50] <Autodidactite> Yes I agree totally, sudo -i all the way
[06:50] <KeLv_MaNu> soulis you can use the same pw of your user account
[06:50] <KeLv_MaNu> if you want
[06:50] <Autodidactite> Yes it is very easy once you know how
[06:51] <Dulak> KeLv_MaNu: that's very horrible advice
[06:51] <KeLv_MaNu> well its better than not assign a pw at all
[06:51] <Autodidactite> What?
[06:52] <Dulak> KeLv_MaNu: just because it's less crappy than another option isn't a good reason to give 'less crappy' advice.
[06:52] <soulis77-SE> hey i changed it to 20 characters and then user account is different.
[06:52] <KeLv_MaNu> haha
[06:52] <soulis77-SE> And the root will be disabled when I set up some more stuff on the server.
[06:52] <Autodidactite> I thought you people were talking about doing sudo or sudo -i
[06:52] <KeLv_MaNu> just saying
[06:52] <bullgard4_> What is the function of my empty Natty directory /tmp/virtual-<username><6-digit_random_ID>?
[06:52] <KeLv_MaNu> sorry if you didnt liked it
[06:53] <KeLv_MaNu> if you have a good pass you can use it for both accounts
[06:53] <Autodidactite> I don't know KeLv_MaNu
[06:53] <KeLv_MaNu> anyone have to know that
[06:53] <Autodidactite> Oops I meant bullgard4
[06:53] <KeLv_MaNu> sorry, not anyone have to know that*
[06:54] <Autodidactite> I don't know bullgard4
[06:54] <fips4d> Lasers: no, vice versa, actually...ubuntu packages on a debian system...
[06:54] <Autodidactite> bullgard4, have you tried to search engine it?
[06:54] <fips4d> Lasers: are you able to retrieve this key?
[06:55] <lonix> what was the battery info command again ?
[06:55] <Dulak> KeLv_MaNu: please stop giving bad advice
[06:55] <Lasers> fips4d: No. I didn't bother to look for it. >_>
[06:55] <Autodidactite> Was there mention of enabling the root account?
[06:56] <Dulak> yes
[06:56] <KeLv_MaNu> i just want to keep it simple
[06:56] <bullgard4_> Autodidactite: If you had a closer look at the problem you would have seen that this problem is not amenable to googleing.
[06:56] <tuxx-> lonix: acpi -b
[06:57] <Autodidactite> Yes the mysterious folder, I was just checking your process so far
[06:57] <Dulak> KeLv_MaNu: it's bad advice, if a password is compromised, regardless of how good it is, you lost 2 accounts, including root, for the price of 1 password.  It's just not a good idea.
[06:57] <KeLv_MaNu> i know that risk
[06:57] <lonix> tuxx-: thanks mate
[06:57] <Autodidactite> Why not just use sudo and sudo -i?
[06:58] <tuxx-> monday mornings >_>
[06:58] <lollab> hello, I mounted an external harddrive through smbmount, but arabic characters are showed with ???? marks, anybody can help?
[06:58] <tuxx-> my head feels like its gonna explode
[06:58] <tuxx-> i hope it doesnt
[06:58] <Autodidactite> lollab sounds like corruption to me.
[06:59] <KeLv_MaNu> a good advice? use 2 different pw with numbers, letters and symbols
[06:59] <Lasers> Or leave root with random password. Use sudo -i for everything.
[06:59] <wildbat> lollab: smbmoun to mount external HDD?~ you mean windows share right?
[06:59] <Autodidactite> Don't have the root account enabled at all?
[06:59] <lollab> wildbat, yes the harddrive exports data via windows share
[07:00] <Dulak> KeLv_MaNu: that's alright, but the best advice is to leave root locked and use sudo -i to get a root shell when you need it
[07:00] <lollab> Autodidactite, no, I don't think so, I see english characters normally
[07:00] <KeLv_MaNu> that can be a better choice
[07:00] <lollab> wildbat, Autodidactite file names with arabic names seen as ????.doc
[07:01] <wildbat> lollab: you didn't set the character set
[07:01] <Autodidactite> lollab, then I would say that there is some sort of corruption going on.
[07:01] <Dulak> lollab: that's a codepage issue, you need to set the character set correctly
[07:01] <KeLv_MaNu> but if you forgot the user pw, logining as root could help when you want to recover or erase the forgotten pw
[07:02] <rahul_> currently I am using ubuntu 11.04, is there any way I can downgrade it to 10.10 without formatting my Hard Disk
[07:02] <Autodidactite> Very true KeLv_MaNu, good point
[07:02] <Dulak> KeLv_MaNu: you boot recovery mode for that, passwordless root access.  It's just better to leave root locked.
[07:02] <Lasers> !downgrade | rahul_
[07:03] <wildbat> lollab: mount with mount option "iocharset=utf8"
[07:03] <KeLv_MaNu> root access without pw?
[07:03] <Lasers> rahul_: Use 10.04 LTS
[07:03] <kierge> anyone have experience with acidrip ?  i just encoded a movie but there was no video output.  i selected xvid and set abr:br=256 for sound.
[07:03] <rahul_> Lasers : what do you mean by that?
[07:03] <Lasers> kierge: Handbrake works well for me.
[07:03] <kierge> or can anyone recommend a easy way to rip to xvid retail dvds from ubuntu ?
[07:03] <Dulak> rahul_: not really, though you can save your prefs by backing up your home dir before you wipe it.  And keep /home on a seperate partition to make it a much easier thing to do in the future
[07:04] <kierge> Lasers, handbrake no longer writes to avi in its latest versions
[07:04] <Lasers> rahul_: In other words, you can't downgrade. Just backup /home/rahul/ and /etc/
[07:04] <saikat> Hi all
[07:04] <lollab> wildbat, oh thank you, I seen this in the man page, but didn't know what iocharset
[07:04] <lollab> wildbat, let me try , few mins
[07:04] <saikat> I have a question
[07:04] <rahul_> Lasers : why should I backup /etc/
[07:04] <Lasers> kierge: Start using mkv?
[07:05] <kierge> i could do that.  what would i use for mkv ?
[07:05] <os_> Which port does Evolution mail use for sending mails via smtp.gmail.com by default?
[07:05] <saikat> How to install Tamil Language pack in ubuntu 11.04
[07:05] <kierge> need an easy solution
[07:05] <Lasers> rahul_: You don't have to -- but it won't hurt. It's only 10MB at most. Your systemwide settings.
[07:05] <Dulak> KeLv_MaNu: yes, recovery mode boots a single user root shell, without a password.  The idea is that if someone has physical access to the machine, you are boned without encryption anyways.
[07:05] <Lasers> kierge: What do you mean? Easy solution? Most computers with VLC can run MKV just fine.
[07:05] <rahul_> Lasers : okay. thanks
[07:06] <Dulak> mp4 runs much better for me, vlc mkv support isn't awesome yet
[07:06] <Lasers> rahul_: /etc/apt/sources.list (and among many things) are under /etc/ -- Sometimes we make changes and forget to keep them.
[07:06] <KeLv_MaNu> at least physical access is required
[07:06] <os_> Can someone please suggest how can I find the default port being used by Evolution for sending mails
[07:06] <kierge> Lasers i meant the encoding
[07:06] <Dulak> i'm on a netbook though, on a good cpu you prolly wouldn't notice the difference
[07:06] <rahul_> Lasers : thats why it is necessary?
[07:06] <KeLv_MaNu> but isnt secure at all
[07:06] <Autodidactite> I have recently changed my video player preference from VLC back to Movie Player
[07:07] <Dulak> os_: sending mail is port 25 or 587 for email
[07:07] <mojz> hello i dont know how to set permissions for ftp clients
[07:07] <Myrtti> os_: depends on your email provider, smtp uses 25
[07:07] <lollab> wildbat, unfortunately, didn't work out
[07:07] <trevorj> Isn't there a package that puts /etc in a versioning system of sorts?
[07:07] <lollab> wildbat, the command accepted however
[07:07] <Dulak> KeLv_MaNu: it's not a big deal, if they boot a livecd they can just mount the hdd and have root access anyways.
[07:08] <trevorj> I remember a project to do such and I remember there being a package for it that was dead easy to use
[07:08] <Dulak> KeLv_MaNu: but you can encrypt the data on disk that is sensitive, for level of protection against physical access.
[07:08] <Lasers> rahul_: Necessary or not. It's an option. I mean, you don't have to back up your home directory too. -- But you want to. It's up to you.
[07:08] <lollab> wildbat, this is the command: smbmount //<IP_ADDRESS>/users /media/HD_users/ -o username=xyz,password=abc,iocharset=utf8
[07:08] <os_> Well, if I don't give any port the mails are sent just fine to my id on gmail.com. But if i set the port to 25, 587 or 465 the sending mail fails.
[07:08] <KeLv_MaNu> true
[07:08] <wildbat> lollab: what version of windows you use ~? you may have to try other codepages.
[07:08] <os_> the server being used is smtp.gmail.com
[07:09] <rahul_> Lasers : I have got about 150+GB data in my home directory and I dont wanna lose it
[07:09] <Viking667> 'llo. does anyone have any issues when they ping www.google.com? My Ubuntu machines (natty) all seem to wait for five seconds between each ping reply...yet if I ping the IP directly, I get responses every second, like normal.
[07:09] <pratz> whats the best pdf writer for linux ??
[07:09] <Viking667> hm. I use Openoffice, probably LibreOffice would do the same.
[07:09] <Dulak> os_: outbound email is typically blocked by residential isps, I'm guessing it's maybe using port 80, but that's kinda weird
[07:09] <KeLv_MaNu> the pws are encrypted and saved in a database file, right?
[07:10] <lollab> wildbat, the harddrive doens't run windows, its an external disk with network interface and people just get into share and find files. I'm trying to mount in order to copy the files to my system
[07:10] <Dulak> pratz: you can print to pdf from any application, so 'best' is kinda hard to define.
[07:10] <Lasers> rahul_: Wow. Back them up. I generally keep hard drives separated so reinstalling any OS is relatively easy for me. :)
[07:10] <Dulak> KeLv_MaNu: they are hashed, not encrypted, but yes
[07:11] <KeLv_MaNu> oh ok
[07:11] <rahul_> Lasers : I dont have any other HardDisk with me, I dont know how I am going to backup my data...but I will surely arrange something soon
[07:11] <j-r> Hi I want to allocate an array of files. I have seen the sytax: FILES=(*.jpg) but it is not correct. I use the bourne shell.
[07:11] <Autodidactite> kierge, I used to do this really easily and well
[07:11] <pratz> Dulak: i am asking for a pdf writer
[07:11] <wildbat> lollab: can't gnome nautilus automount it ?
[07:11] <Viking667> pratz: what are you wanting to put into the pdf writer? text? Pictures? html?
[07:11] <Dulak> pratz: hit print, choose 'print to file' then 'pdf'.  Pdf written.
[07:12] <lollab> wildbat, actually no gnome installed , I have ubuntu server
[07:12] <robinsch> I want something
[07:12] <pratz> Viking667: almost all of that
[07:12] <lollab> wildbat, do you suggest to install one?
[07:12] <os_> with port 587 i get 'connection reset by peer' error. Is is coz my ISP is doing something fishy here.. :-/
[07:12] <Lasers> rahul_: Meanwhile, use 11.04 until you have something in place. I guess. I'd recommend you to use multiple hard drives as to keep OS and 150GB~ data of personal consumption separated. :)
[07:12] <Autodidactite> So do I robinsch
[07:12] <robinsch> sorry, wrong window
[07:12] <Dulak> pratz: you can do that from just about any application in linux, so the app you use depends on what you want in the pdf
[07:13] <Viking667> Dulak: what apps support that? I haven't seen a "printer driver" that outputs pdf.
[07:13] <KeLv_MaNu> Someone read about Ubuntu apps running on webOS HP Touchpad?
[07:13] <Dulak> Viking667: it's been built into cups for about 7 years now.
[07:13] <Lasers> Viking667: Just print something. You'll see it there. "Ctrl + P"  Select PDF.
[07:13] <rahul_> Lasers : do you know any good themes 11.04?
[07:13] <Viking667> weird... I wasn't aware cups had that by default.
[07:13] <Lasers> Viking667: "Save to file" -- Something. I'm not quite sure. :)
[07:13] <Dulak> Yeah it's nifty.
[07:13] <Viking667> ... given I come from the lpd era, it's been ... a while.
[07:13] <Lasers> rahul_: I use Shiki-Colors Fat.
[07:13] <lollab> wildbat, I will try to use mount -t cifs
[07:14] <Lasers> rahul_: Flat*
[07:14] <pratz> any pdf editor actually
[07:14] <Juozas> os_ have you opened the port in router if you have one
[07:14] <rahul_> Lasers : can you tell me from where I can download it?
[07:14] <os_> Juozas: oh thanks for the pointer. Lemme check it out.
[07:14] <Dulak> pratz: pdf is not supposed to be an editable file.   It's a digital printout, not an editable document.
[07:14] <Lasers> rahul_: http://goo.gl/VKq5y
[07:15] <rahul_> Lasers : downloading it
[07:15] <Lasers> rahul_: Cool.
[07:15] <Juozas> also os_, check your firewall for ports too (ether windows one or on linux (iptables probably))
[07:16] <lollab> wildbat, ops!  I figured that I'm on the directory mounted, I was umount while I'm in the directory itselt :)
[07:16] <Dulak> pratz: so lets say you want to make a flyer.    You design the flyer, then you save it as an editable graphics file.  Then you print to pdf to get a pdf version.
[07:16] <rahul_> Lasers : how to install it?
[07:16] <wildbat> lollab: so it worked?
[07:16] <lollab> wildbat, iocharset worked correctly, thank you!
[07:16] <KeLv_MaNu> you can convert the pdf file to doc file then edit it and save it as pdf
[07:17] <bullgard4_> What is the function of my empty Natty directory /tmp/virtual-<username><6-digit_random_ID>?
[07:17] <Lasers> rahul_: Install it in ~/.themes
[07:17] <Lasers> rahul_: Just plop it there, really.
[07:17] <wildbat> lollab: lol~ good for you , i think they should have make utf8 as default by now ~ but oh well ~
[07:17] <rahul_> Lasers : directly the .zip file?
[07:17] <Dulak> KeLv_MaNu: you lose all the formatting, and sometimes words, depending on what charset it is.  It's not made to be directly editable.
[07:17] <Lasers> rahul_: No. Bunch of Shiki folders.
[07:18] <KeLv_MaNu> thats the risk
[07:19] <Lasers> bullgard4_: Search Engines said it comes from gvfs
[07:19] <rahul_> Lasers : this theme will not look as intended because the required window manager theme 'Shiki-Colors-Flat-Metacity' is not installed" what should I do?
[07:19] <rahul_> Lasers : "This theme will not look as intended because the required window manager theme 'Shiki-Colors-Flat-Metacity' is not installed" what should I do?
[07:20] <Lasers> rahul_: Dun dun dun. Try other themes. I don't think that's the theme you wanted.
[07:21] <rahul_> Lasers : the theme is looking good but there are many things missing....how to install this theme in metacity?
[07:22] <ossnoss> I got these USB headphones by cyber acoustic. I plug them in, the power comes on but they don't work. Is it possible to get them working?
[07:23] <Lasers> rahul_: I use compiz. Unsure about metacity. You should do this -- "sudo apt-get install gnome-colors" for icons.
[07:24] <bullgard4_> Lasers: Thank you.
[07:25] <rahul_> Lasers : you are using ubuntu 11.04 or 10.10?
[07:26] <intlkleinblue> m0n: I'm downloading package right now and will test it soon
[07:27] <Lasers> rahul_: I'm not using Ubuntu -- but I'm using Gnome.
[07:27] <Lasers> rahul_: I like giving out candies and supports.
[07:28] <rahul_> Lasers : thats good man. I am using 11.04 but without unity.
[07:28]  * YankDownUnder feels sorry for anyone running 11.04
[07:29] <saikat> how to install Tamil Language pack in Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[07:29] <rahul_> YankDownUnder : thats funny
[07:29] <YankDownUnder> rahul_, Actually, it's rather sad, my friend...
[07:30] <Voting> Hi, folks. Trying to use gparted to convert a 3TB USB drive which came formatted w/ NTFS to ext4. Not seeing the /dev/sdb1 device and don't know how to get it to show up (nor do I now how to convert to ext4 w/o gparted off hand.) Thanks!
[07:30] <rahul_> YankDownUnder : Its very sad. I am suffering badly.  Nothing on it I care about.
[07:32] <Voting> Lasers: thinks. I'm just going to use it to back stuff up.
[07:32] <YankDownUnder> Voting, Well my friend, you can very nicely just use gParted to blow out the existing partition and start afresh...
[07:32] <Voting> Lasers: thanks, rather. How do I make it show up in gparted
[07:32] <flexy> How do I set sda to have deadline scheduler right at boot, so that the rest of the disks still get cfg scheduler? (I have ssd as sda, other drives are normal spindles...)
[07:32] <Lasers> Voting: I'm guessing you ought to umount it first and refresh gparted?
[07:32] <Voting> YankDownUnder: how do I do it? I'm not seeing the device.
[07:33] <YankDownUnder> Voting, It might not show up if, repeat IF it was formatted "dynamically" by MS Windows...
[07:33] <YankDownUnder> Voting, are you comfortable using fdisk from the terminal?
[07:33] <llutz_> Voting: you need to set partitiontable type to "gpt", not msdos
[07:34] <rahul_> can anyone please help me install this theme http://tinyurl.com/6hhgvyh I am using ubuntu 11.04
[07:34] <Voting> llutz, don't know how to do that.
[07:34] <Voting> llutz_: how do I reset to gpt?
[07:35] <YankDownUnder> Voting, Question: do you see the device when you open a term and type: sudo fdisk -l => you'll get a listing of devices that are seen by the system...
[07:35] <Voting> devices only has the main hard drive.
[07:35] <llutz_> Voting: not sure if gparted can do, parted would work
[07:36] <llutz_> YankDownUnder: afaik fdisk cannot handle gpt-drives (drives >2TB) correctly
[07:37] <s7nf> guys where can I check which network card am I using?
[07:37] <Voting> fdisk -l   =>
[07:37] <Voting>   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:37] <Voting> /dev/sdb1<PHONE_NUMBER>36<PHONE_NUMBER>    7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:37] <YankDownUnder> llutz_, Hmmm....roger that...
[07:37] <llutz_> s7nf: lspci | grep -i net
[07:37] <YankDownUnder> Voting, Is *that* the drive?
[07:37] <nkh> hi every body! any one can help me for an easy way to upgrade my gcc to 4.6 in Lucid ?
[07:38] <Voting> YankDownUnder: yes, fdisk sees it.
[07:38] <s7nf> llutz, thx
[07:38] <nkh> I'm in a hury unfortunately :|
[07:38] <YankDownUnder> Voting, Right. So then you'd want to use fdisk to blow the partition (/dev/sdb1) and then you'd be able to re-partition and then reformat...are you ready to try this?
[07:38] <nkh> Is there any repo to add and apt-get it to do all? I also need g++ to be the same version
[07:39] <nkh> So gcc and g++ 4.6
[07:39] <nkh> any help!?
[07:39] <flexy> nkh: source...
[07:39] <flexy> nkh: install from source...
[07:39] <Voting> llutz_ how do I set the partitiontable type to "gpt" ? Is that what I need to do next?
[07:39] <flexy> How do I set sda to have deadline scheduler right at boot, so that the rest of the disks still get cfg scheduler? (I have ssd as sda, other drives are normal spindles...)
[07:39] <flexy> I know the elevator=deadline line to /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT... but it changes the default elevator. The rest of the disks get the same elevator. I could echo to /sys/block/... at boot time, but then when usb hdds are attached, they too get the deadline elevator...
[07:39] <lollab> wildbat, yes it worked, yes it should be by default
[07:40] <nkh> flexy: Ok which sources I should get !? for both g++ and gcc ?
[07:40] <lollab> wildbat, thanks
[07:40] <nkh> flexy: can you lead me a link?
[07:40] <flexy> nkh: sure, compile and install
[07:40] <flexy> nkh: no, but google is your friend
[07:40] <llutz_> Voting: seems fdisk learned to use >2TB-drives, just try to partition it to your needs
[07:40] <Voting> YankDownUnder: I'm happy to blow the partition if that is the right next step, yes.
[07:40] <flexy> nkh: there might be a repo also, but I don't know about those
[07:40] <nkh> flexy: yes you right I'm in hury and I can't think on what i say :D
[07:41] <nkh> flexy: Hmmm tnx
[07:42] <Voting> llutz_: HOW should I do the partioning? I'm trying to do it w/ gparted and the devices menu still does not have the /deev/sdb1 device in there.
[07:42] <llutz_> Voting: use fdisk
[07:42] <YankDownUnder> Voting, Right oh. So, do: fdisk /dev/sdb => and then you can type "d" to delete the partition => it will show you the partitions. Then you can type "w" to write the partition table (this will be an empty partition now), and "q" to quit fdisk. At this point, you should be able to run gParted and actually SEE the device...if not, then we can use fdisk again to create a partition and then format it after that, eh?
[07:43] <Voting> YankDownUnder: THANKS!
[07:43] <YankDownUnder> Voting, Roger that.
[07:43] <llutz_> Voting: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb "t" to change type of sdb1 to "83"
[07:43] <Voting> YankDownUnder: sadly, I'm stupid about disk partioning so I was hoping to do it all in a graphical UI.
[07:43] <nkh> flexy: one another Q ! does g++ have another source for itself ? or gcc contains g++ ?
[07:43] <ghufran> hi. is there a way to get some of the applets from older versions back? like the inhibiter applet .. or force quit applet ..
[07:43] <YankDownUnder> Voting, Follow what I just wrote - when you're done, you might be surprised.
[07:43] <llutz_> Voting: "w" "q" done, then "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1 "
[07:44] <flexy> nkh: don't know about that.
[07:44] <llutz_> Voting: err*  "sudo mkfs.ext4 -m0 /dev/sdb1 "
[07:44] <nkh> flexy: Thanks
[07:44] <Voting> YankDownUnder: should I start with   sudo fdisk /dev/sdb "t"    ?
[07:45] <YankDownUnder> Voting, No. Just do as I suggested. "d" for delete, then partition "1". Then "w" (write) and "q" to quit. Then fire up gParted and see what you can see. IF gParted doesn't see it, we'll use fdisk to create a new partition, eh?
[07:48] <HackNewton> hi
[07:48] <HackNewton> can anybody know a good download manager for Gnome Ububtu which i can attach with chrome ?
[07:50] <YankDownUnder> HackNewton, You want to chrome plate a download manager? Hmmm...
[07:50] <s7nf> guys, can I do (tagged) vlan between two computers directly connected over ethernet (without router/switch)?
[07:50] <Lasers> More of Chrome Extension question than Ubuntu.
[07:50] <HackNewton> YankDownUnder, I mean google chrome browser
[07:51] <YankDownUnder> HackNewton, ;)
[07:51] <HackNewton> YankDownUnder, nice one though, you know any ?
[07:52] <YankDownUnder> HackNewton, Um, no. I just use it straight outta the box...however, there appears to be 22,600,000 returned search results for what you're asking... ;)
[07:53] <kz3> can anyone please help me install this theme http://tinyurl.com/6hhgvyh
[07:53] <kz3> I am using ubuntu 11.04
[07:53] <HackNewton> YankDownUnder, yeah i googled it but... they are out of my need
[07:53] <Voting> YankDownUnder: I'm worried, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/646285/    - When I typed "w" it dumped me out w/o my having to quit. Did it work right or did something go wrong?