[03:31] <thoreauputic> nalioth: .au - but I have restricted funds here :)
[03:31] <bimberi> what was that "Men at Work" song :)
[03:31] <haja> You Can Dance...
[03:31] <huahauha> are you guys sure i can add my emoticons to gaim (msn)
[03:31] <gigaclon> Safty Dance
[03:31] <thoreauputic> Land Down Under?
[03:31] <huahauha> ?
[03:31] <bimberi> hehe
[03:31] <cafuego> hmm, toast&vegemite
[03:31] <nalioth> thoreauputic: i'm sure i or someone can send you a disk
[03:31] <Orunitia> Is there a way I can access my home folder from a live cd?
[03:31] <cafuego> Orunitia: yep, mount the partition.
[03:32] <thoreauputic> nalioth: thanks :) We'll see when the time comes I guess :)
[03:32] <ari_> can someone please help me with those video drivers?
[03:32] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: yeah, let one of us know; I'll be happy to send you the cd/dvd
[03:32] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: thanks to you too :)
[03:32] <bimberi> thoreauputic: i'd be more than happy to as well (domestic postage too)
[03:33] <IRCMonkey> hi i am new to ubuntu ... any one there can help me .. root password in ubuntu??
[03:33] <haja> How do I install .run packages?
[03:33] <thoreauputic> wow, three volunteers already...
[03:33] <apokryphos> maybe we could just start a thoreauputic-get-broadband-trust fund ;-)
[03:33] <thoreauputic> hahah
[03:33] <kevogod> !tell IRCMonkey about root
[03:33] <bimberi> thoreauputic: set up the paypal a/c now :)
[03:33] <Quinthius> is there any way to make the alt-tab list include ALL programs, not just current desktop?
[03:33] <apokryphos> registered charity, coming soon 8)
[03:34] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: soon,,, soon... I don't want to get it at the moment since I might need to move house (double connection fees...)
[03:34] <mebaran151> any tips on how to get vsftpd to work with openssl
[03:34] <cafuego> thoreauputic: which isp?
[03:34] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: yup, better not. Especially when you have kind people to send you them. :P
[03:34] <cafuego> thoreauputic: Ha. switch to Internode! They mirror ubuntu (free)
[03:34] <mebaran151> 500 OOPS: SSL: cannot load RSA certificate
[03:34] <thoreauputic> cafuego: I would probably go for Internode, indeed
[03:35] <thoreauputic> cafuego: that's the ISP I have been considering
[03:35] <apokryphos> cafuego: what speeds do you get on that?
[03:35] <huahauha> can i add custom emoticons in gaim?
[03:35] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: I'm moving out of an adsl2 area :(
[03:35] <cafuego> apokryphos: Up to 24M/sec down
[03:36] <thoreauputic> huahauha: Im sure it's possible, but no one here seems to know how
[03:36] <cafuego> apokryphos: I'll probably be getting 16 or so
[03:36] <apokryphos> wow
[03:36] <cafuego> apokryphos: it drops off with distance to exchange
[03:36] <Shikamaroo> how do i boot without yaboot?
[03:36] <cafuego> and your dsl modem needs a fast enough processor to handle it, too.
[03:36] <huahauha> :(
[03:36] <apokryphos> sure
[03:36] <HrdwrBoB> apokryphos: the main difference here in australia is that telstra adsl doesn't go above 1.5mbit
[03:36] <HrdwrBoB> and costs $texas
[03:37] <nalioth> HrdwrBoB: $texas   ?
[03:37] <apokryphos> Broadband in UK was super-expensive until late
[03:37] <HrdwrBoB> so if you upgrade to an adsl2 exchange you can get from 8mbit to 24, and it costs *LESS*
[03:37] <HrdwrBoB> nalioth: a lot
[03:37] <nalioth> Shikamaroo: you need yaboot or you're out of luck
[03:37] <apokryphos> fast bb, that is; standard has been dropping slowly.
[03:37] <nalioth> Shikamaroo: you can boot from teh liveCd and chroot, tho
[03:37] <cafuego> iinet do have a dsl2 dslam in my exchange
[03:37] <cafuego> but they kinda suck
[03:37] <HrdwrBoB> nalioth: I'm paying $70/month for 1.5mbit, if I change providers the same price gets mne a 24mbit connection
[03:37] <thoreauputic> cafuego: so I've heard
[03:37] <apokryphos> bimberi: good ol' Bulldog
[03:38] <nalioth> HrdwrBoB: and you're still on 1.5?
[03:38] <Shikamaroo> nalioth: how do i do that to boot my installed version?
[03:38] <cafuego> thoreauputic: Some friends of mine have iinet; half the time I cannot ssh from their place to home for some reason.
[03:38] <mebaran151> HrdwrBoB, could you help me setup of vsftpd with ssl
[03:38] <mebaran151> I keep getting an RSA cert error
[03:38] <HrdwrBoB> nalioth: yes because I'm about to move
[03:38] <HrdwrBoB> mebaran151: I've never done it
[03:38] <nalioth> Shikamaroo: you wont be able to boot your installed version w/o reinstalling yaboot (i'm assuming you're on a mac)
[03:38] <mebaran151> 500 OOPS: SSL: cannot load RSA certificate
[03:38] <HrdwrBoB> mebaran151: try running it with more verbosity
[03:38] <daveb_> Hi I really am in a bind. I tried doing a dual install with Ubuntu and Xp, having XP on one HD and Ubuntu on another. This failed completely and totally screwed my XP install. I asked for help here earlier and was told to do a windows repair, which i did, but resulted in me just gettting the blue screen of death over and over. Is there any way i can at least get into my XP files to back them up? I'm completely screwed and would appreciate a
[03:38] <daveb_> ny help
[03:39] <nalioth> Shikamaroo: however you can chroot into your installed linux via the liveCD
[03:39] <cafuego> nalioth: Not all exchanges have been upgraded by ISPs that don't suck. Having 24M is nice, but if it drops out ALL the time, 1.5M is nicer.
[03:39] <thoreauputic> cafuego: apparently the CEO of Internode belongs to the local LUG :)
[03:39] <mebaran151> I'm not sure it has more verbosity...
[03:39] <Vaske_Car> If I select SERVER during the installation process will it install GUI as well or just command line with server tools?
[03:39] <bimberi> Vaske_Car: the latter
[03:39] <Shikamaroo> nalioth: yes i am and every time i install it, it says it cant install yaboot
[03:39] <kevogod> daveb_: When you installed Ubuntu, did you repartition?
[03:40] <cafuego> nalioth: others do allow you adsl2 ion their equipment, but ONLY if you then use THEM for long distance phone calls as well.
[03:40] <nalioth> Shikamaroo: ah, more info
[03:40] <daveb_> I had two drives, one with XP installed and the other empty, I partioned the empty drive.
[03:40] <nalioth> cafuego: any ideas for Shikamaroo ?
[03:40] <Shikamaroo> nalioth: it is a g3 blue power pc
[03:40] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: Can you boot the rescue cd and log in?
[03:40] <kevogod> daveb_: Is GRUB your bootloader?
[03:40] <nalioth> Shikamaroo: we are out of my league now, sorry
[03:41] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: what rescue cd?
[03:41] <] BreliC[> Hey
[03:41] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: the install cd.   hold on, rewind, at what point in the install are you?
[03:41] <] BreliC[> does anyone here use NoCatAuth?
[03:41] <floam> are the xorg 6.9 RC's available in Ubuntu yet?
[03:41] <thoreauputic> cafuego: optus wanted to offer me adsl for a "special price" - download limit something like 1 gig - I just laughed at them ( I do more than that on dialup)
[03:41] <daveb_> it was till the windows repair, but it was erroring out every time. What I'm desperate to do now is get at my XP files and at least copy them somewhere safe
[03:41] <haja> Anyone got a guide for installing UT2004 on Linux?
[03:42] <kevogod> daveb_: Use the Windows XP CD and go to the Recovery Console. Enter 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot'. Is this what you did before?
[03:42] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: i get through the whole thing but when im installing yaboot it says it cannot install yaboot to the hard drive
[03:42] <cafuego> thoreauputic: <heh> tragic. Tesltra have recently DROPPED their limits as well. I'm just *amazed* people actually CHOOSE to use them.
[03:42] <floam> haja: you shouldn't need a guide
[03:42] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: Did you let the installer create partitions for you?
[03:42] <daveb_> no, I ran the normal repair graphical method
[03:42] <kevogod> !tell kevogod about NTFS
[03:42] <floam> haja: there's an installer on the disc
[03:43] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: yes
[03:43] <kevogod> !tell daveb_ about NTFS
[03:43] <floam> haja: assuming you have 3D working, it's easy as pie to get working.
[03:43] <thoreauputic> cafuego: a lot of people are going to get a nasty shock when they listen to/ watch streaming media
[03:43] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: Okay. Can you hit alt-F2 and run 'parted' ? The type 'print' and tell me whether you have a 1Mb partition in there...
[03:43] <armanmx> Ubotu: the Upgrade Line 'sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" could be type from my user terminal or must be done in a root terminal???
[03:43] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, armanmx
[03:43] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: but i made sure there was a boot partition since ive been having this problem for days
[03:43] <haja> its working, I assume I can't install it in GUI correct floam ?
[03:43] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: *nod* Does that boot partition have a name/label?
[03:43] <daveb_> Am I completely screwed?
[03:43] <Vaske_Car> Anybody familiar with partimage here?
[03:44] <floam> haja: which GUI?
[03:44] <haja> Gnome
[03:44] <kevogod> Vaske_Car: I am.
[03:44] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: do i have to go back into setup?
[03:44] <floam> haja: the installer that's on the disc is graphical
[03:44] <Vaske_Car> just one question
[03:44] <DewDude> will the linux disk partitoning utilities resize NTFS partitions or not?
[03:44] <floam> haja: make sure you install the latest patch once you have it installed
[03:44] <huahauha> can i add custom emoticons in gaim?
[03:44] <kevogod> daveb_: No, run the script I pointed you to with ubotu.
[03:44] <huahauha> :(
[03:44] <floam> haja: http://icculus.org/news/news.php?id=2337
[03:44] <apokryphos> DewDude: yes, but you should have backups ideally
[03:44] <haja> do I just run ./linux_installer.sh?
[03:44] <DewDude> hrmm
[03:44] <fblade> how do you save in nano
[03:44] <DewDude> meh
[03:44] <floam> haja: yes, as root
[03:44] <haja> ok
[03:44] <Logistics> anyone good with RAID systems?
[03:44] <] BreliC[> Has anyone here installed the NoCatAuth captive portal?
[03:44] <kevogod> daveb_: Download http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[03:44] <haja> Thanks... I'll give 'er a shot
[03:45] <haja> Just got my 3d working last night and I am so happy :P
[03:45] <DewDude> cuz i wnt to install ubuntu on my x86 machine too
[03:45] <floam> haja: :)
[03:45] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: is the setup hanging on a red screen or a menu now?
[03:45] <Vaske_Car> kevogod: it let me to store partition on network or restore an image from network. QUESTION: Does that network mean FTP or Samba protocol?
[03:45] <DewDude> and all my drives are NTFS
[03:45] <floam> haja: you'll need to have a decent video card to play the game
[03:45] <armanmx> Ubotu: to upgrade 4.10 to 5.04  I must ty this: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:45] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, armanmx
[03:45] <nalioth> DewDude: parted will shrink ntfs partitions
[03:45] <bimberi> armanmx: normal terminal will be fine (it's using sudo)
[03:45] <floam> haja: something at or over Geforce 4 level
[03:45] <kevogod> Vaske_Car: I do not believe it supports Samba.
[03:45] <haja> yeah, I got a 9800 Pro
[03:46] <Vaske_Car> so FTP?
[03:46] <DewDude> meh
[03:46] <floam> haja: ah, you're set
[03:46] <kevogod> Vaske_Car, Although I think it can be accomplished.
[03:46] <armanmx> bimberi: OK
[03:46] <floam> haja: a lot of Linux users seem upset when it doesn't work well on their Voodoo 2's :)
[03:46] <haja> 128mb, 1gb Pc3200 2600+ Mobile overclocked to 2.7ghz 215fsb
[03:46] <Marc> hi this is my first time to use irc so if im asking in the wrong place sorry, please point me in the right direction, i need help authenticating ubuntu with windows NT/2000 server
[03:46] <floam> "but quake3 runs!"
[03:46] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: it doesnt hang, it just gives me an error, then when i pressed continue after the error sed it couldnt install yaboot to hard drive it gave me a list of options and i chose continue w/o installing yaboot
[03:46] <haja> lol floam
[03:46] <Vaske_Car> kevogod: would you help me do that in case i decide to do it?
[03:47] <kevogod> "6. The network support allows to save an image file from a client, without having to configure both client and server NFS. (Network File System). When the multicast will be implemented, it will allow to restore X clients from 1 server, and DD can't do a such multicast copy."
[03:47] <bimberi> Marc: Hi and welcome!  Not sure what you mean by "authenticating"?
[03:47] <haja> What does this mean? root@MAIN:/media/cdrom # ./linux-installer.sh
[03:48] <haja> bash: ./linux-installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[03:48] <haja> root@MAIN:/media/cdrom #
[03:48] <haja> sorry
[03:48] <kevogod> Vaske_Car, Samba is planned for support, but not yet.
[03:48] <Vaske_Car> Any idea of when it could be?
[03:48] <Vaske_Car> I dont have expirience with NFS
[03:48] <Vaske_Car> :(
[03:48] <apokryphos> haja: don't paste in here, please.
[03:48] <haja> I kno... sorry. I thought it was going to go on one line
[03:49] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: is there a way of installing yaboot manually?
[03:49] <Marc> i posted this in the forums http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44700, but havn't had an answer, but basicly i'm trying to do a domain logon
[03:49] <Logistics> I have a software raid1 setup for 2 of my 4 hd's,  there is multi partitions on the raid1 drive, / , /boot , /share exist on them, upon boot /share is failing, is there anyway for me to get the data from that partition without a format, or removing anything from that spec. partition?
[03:49] <haja> Do I have to copy the installer file to my home dir?
[03:49] <kevogod> Vaske_Car, I am kind of working on an XSLT transformation right now so I do not have enough time to explain everything.
[03:49] <daveb_> Okay, how do I run it, from the terminal? then after that, what?
[03:50] <Vaske_Car> np
[03:50] <apokryphos> haja: sh linux-installer.sh
[03:50] <kevogod> daveb_: type sudo sh path/to/file
[03:50] <kevogod> err
[03:50] <kevogod> daveb_: type sudo bash path/to/file
[03:51] <Shikamaroo> can anyone help me? i need to know if i can install yaboot manually
[03:51] <haja> I see
[03:51] <haja> :D
[03:51] <kevogod> so I would cd to the directory and type: sudo bash winmac_fstab
[03:51] <Marc> does it sound do able? am i asking in the right place?
[03:51] <haja> I feel like such an idoit with Linux lol
[03:51] <kevogod> "idoit"
[03:51] <kevogod> ha
[03:52] <haja> I can't type very well :P
[03:52] <armanmx> Thanks for the help, upgrade did not work
[03:52] <Shikamaroo> can anyone help >.< i really need help getting ubuntu to work
[03:52] <apokryphos> armanmx: well, what was the problem?
[03:53] <haja> Thank you apokryphos and floam
[03:53] <armanmx> some resourse temporarily unavailable
[03:53] <daveb_> cool that worked, I'm able to access my files and will start backing up. I suppose i can't remove the live cd file while I'm running the live version correct?
[03:53] <bimberi> Marc: Unfortunately that's out of my league.  There might be others here who know so it could be the right place.  Otherwise you might go better in a samba channel or mailing list.
[03:53] <nalioth> Shikamaroo: yes you can
[03:53] <bimberi> Marc: I like how you included backup scripts in your post :)
[03:53] <apokryphos> armanmx: can you pastebin the error output?
[03:54] <kevogod> daveb_, Well... You might be able to unmount it and then eject it... but your experience might degrade.
[03:54] <Shikamaroo> nalioth: how?
[03:54] <nalioth> Shikamaroo: you need to follow this wiki up to the point of starting to install grub
[03:54] <nalioth> Shikamaroo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:54] <daveb_> I'll try it
[03:54] <Shikamaroo> nalioth: this will mork on mac?
[03:55] <TokenBad> hmmm
[03:55] <haja> I get this error when I try to eject the cd http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1941
[03:55] <TokenBad> this is still weird
[03:55] <kevogod> Boot loaders on a Mac?
[03:55] <nalioth> Shikamaroo: you need to chroot as in the wiki article, but we will be installing yaboot instead of grub
[03:55] <nalioth> kevogod: yes, yaboot
[03:55] <daveb_> no you can't. I' have a USB flash drive..it'll have to do
[03:55] <Marc> thanks bimberi, i have used the backup scripts a lot & i guess that anyone who trys to make this work will you them to, will try the samba channel thanks
[03:55] <mik3> anyone want to try to tackle my broken apt system?
[03:55] <Shikamaroo> nalioth: ok ill try this
[03:56] <apokryphos> mik3: no-one can without knowing the actual problem. :)
[03:56] <mik3> alright let me fire up the ubuntu past bin
[03:56] <kevogod> daveb_: Try: sudo umount -f /dev/cdrom from the terminal
[03:56] <TokenBad> has a new version of ubuntu been released?
[03:57] <kevogod> TokenBad, Colony 4 although it is not a RELEASE
[03:57] <armanmx> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)                                                             E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:57] <thoreauputic> TokenBad: October full release
[03:57] <apokryphos> armanmx: close any instances of synaptic
[03:57] <Pickle_Weasel> armanmx, do you have synaptic open? -_-
[03:57] <armanmx> yes
[03:57] <thoreauputic> armanmx: close whatever other instance of apt you are using
[03:57] <Pickle_Weasel> you need to close it
[03:57] <kevogod> Close it! :-)
[03:58] <TokenBad> ok so the colony 4 is out..but not an official release..next month will be a official full release?
[03:58] <thoreauputic> armanmx: synaptic uses dpkg/apt
[03:58] <kevogod> TokenBad, Yes.
[03:58] <apokryphos> TokenBad: October 13th, yes.
[03:58] <armanmx> oh my god, it's working :D
[03:58] <TokenBad> ok...
[03:58] <Pickle_Weasel> praise the linux gods \o/
[03:59] <tga> mm, new release
[04:00] <mik3> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1942 <----any ideas?
[04:00] <armanmx> mmm, I do not waht to be a guru, just learn little more, WHERE??? I'm tire from windows
[04:00] <Shikamaroo> nalioth: should i be doing the automatic or manual? and do i just replace grub with yaboot everywhere?
[04:00] <Prower> Hello everyone :> Maybe someone here might know...is there an apt-* command that you can use to remove stale dependencies (i.e. packages that were installed to satisfy dependencies of something that isn't installed any more?)
[04:01] <apokryphos> armanmx: wiki.ubuntu.com is a great place to start. The rute guide is also good
[04:01] <thoreauputic> Prower: install deborphan and debfoster
[04:01] <apokryphos> !rute
[04:01] <ubotu> somebody said rute was a great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/
[04:01] <daveb_> No, it said "device not mounted" but won't let me eject. I've got a 512 meg usb drive that'll work for now
[04:01] <nalioth> Shikamaroo: read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Yaboot
[04:01] <Prower> thoreauputic: Hmm...okay, thanks
[04:02] <armanmx> THANKS, the system is upgrating
[04:02] <apokryphos> =)
[04:02] <thoreauputic> Prower: alternatively use aptitude instead of apt for installing/uninstalling
[04:02] <nalioth> Shikamaroo: read this also: http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/yaboot/doc/yaboot-howto.shtml/
[04:02] <thoreauputic> Prower: it's smarter about dependencies
[04:03] <Prower> thoreauputic: Hmm...can you switch from one to the other without problems, or do you need to be using it from the start more or less?
[04:03] <kevogod> daveb_, I do not know where the CD mounts to since I have only briefly used the Live CD, sorry.
[04:03] <daveb_> it's cool, as long as I can get at the files and move them somehow, I'm a lot hoappier than I was before
[04:04] <thoreauputic> Prower: from what I see, you need to consistently use aptitude if you want all the advantages
[04:04] <thoreauputic> (apt doesn't know about what aptitude does)
[04:05] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: not always an advantage ;-), particularly when an app recommends language packs. You'll get every language possible. 8)
[04:05] <Prower> thoreauputic: Ahh, I see...thanks, I'll probably use the two previous programs then
[04:05] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: good pont
[04:05] <thoreauputic> *point
[04:06] <thoreauputic> Prower: persoanlly I use apt-get (more out of habit than anything)
[04:06] <apokryphos> apt-get also doesn't flood terminal by telling me *everytime* how many packs it's holding back for me :P
[04:06] <communico> cafuego: thanks for your excellent help, we've got the network all working now. Now we're just trying to figure out how to access the computers other harddiscs. there are six installed in total, four in a RAID configuration. when I click on places, my computer, should they all show up as separate icons?
[04:07] <DarkFuture> can u go inside ya hardrive with a live cd?
[04:07] <cafuego> communico: it's odd, but probably, yes. To access them, chosoe 'Filesystem' and then navigate to where you mounted the raid array.
[04:08] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: You can boot the cd with the rescue command, then access your install partition. There *is* one thing you will need to do before installing yaboot.
[04:08] <DarkFuture> is it possible to view the hard drive with a live cd
[04:09] <marccd> is mysql broken obn breezy?
[04:09] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: Once the rescue boot is up, you need to switch to terminal 2 and run the follwing command: mount -o bind /proc /target/proc
[04:09] <kevogod> DarkFuture, Yes.
[04:09] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: what is that i need?
[04:09] <kevogod> DarkFuture, At least the partitions on the hard drive.
[04:09] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: ok
[04:09] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: that will make /proc available in the rescue shell; it's required for finding the open firmware path to your boot partition, which yaboot needs.
[04:10] <armanmx> see you Guys, again THANKS FOR THE HELP (B)
[04:10] <DarkFuture> kevogod my windows hd got a virus and it wont start up but i need the info thats inside so how will i get into it with a the live cd
[04:10] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: It really SHOULD do that automatically, but the one here didn't last night...
[04:11] <spanglesontoast>  is there anything in doze and linux that you can connect to the sysklogd and read the stuff that gets added to certain logs?
[04:11] <kevogod> !tell DarkFuture about NTFS
[04:11] <mik3> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1942 <----any ideas?
[04:12] <mik3> !repositories
[04:12] <ubotu> repositories is probably probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:12] <marccd> is mysql broken in breezy?
[04:12] <NoHope> hello all
[04:13] <NoHope> hey, I updagraded my mozilla-thunderbird and it doesn't start no more!!! Have you heard something about it?
[04:13] <kevogod> DarkFuture: Download the winmac_fstab file from http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab and then from the terminal, cd to the directory that contains the script and run: sudo bash winmac_fstab
[04:13] <communico> cafuego: the drives were set up in the bios, but I don't think they've been mounted. i'm a little fuzzy on how I use the mount command
[04:13] <huahauha> can i add custom emoticons in gaim?
[04:14] <peanut> my wireless card doesent work
[04:14] <Jaivaz> Is there a way to skin Synaptic?
[04:14] <h17m4n> when running as chroot on terminal, does it show as root@ubuntu?
[04:14] <bur[n] er> anyone else finding that rhythmbox segfaults if you do a search for anything in breezy
[04:14] <mik3> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1942 <----any ideas?
[04:14] <Jaivaz> It looks odd when you compare it's brightness to the overall darkness of my screen
[04:15] <kevogod> DarkFuture: You get that?
[04:15] <huahauha> can i add custom emoticons in gaim? :(???
[04:15] <peanut> how do i get my wirelesscard working?
[04:16] <regeya> weekends are hell.
[04:16] <durt> peanut,  what kind of card?
[04:16] <peanut> acer ipn 2000
[04:16] <huahauha> mik3, just do apt-get update again
[04:16] <DarkFuture> kevogod yea but i cant find the installer(im kinda a linux newb)
[04:16] <Prower> huahauha: Yes, you can :> I'm not sure how offhand though, but there are emoticon packs out for it
[04:16] <NoHope> any thunderbird user? I'm having problems... thunderbird 1.0.6 doesn't start...
[04:16] <Freddy9517> hi, is there a way to get a binary clock that can be put as object to the panel?
[04:16] <huahauha> prower , but my contacts will see them?
[04:17] <cafuego> thoreauputic: ooer
[04:17] <bur[n] er> i'm a t-bird user... any error messages NoHope?
[04:17] <bur[n] er> NoHope: sure it's not already running?
[04:17] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: ok im in the shell now and i typed in what u told me to, now what?
[04:17] <NoHope> bur[n] er, yap. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1943
[04:17] <bur[n] er> NoHope: breezy?
[04:17] <Prower> huahauha: That I'm not sure about...I guess it would depend on whether or not their client can auto-download emoticons, I think the normal MSN client can
[04:17] <NoHope> no. Hoary.
[04:18] <thoreauputic> cafuego: I made a mistake removing a ban ;)
[04:18] <durt> peaut, have you tried ndiswrapper?
[04:18] <NoHope> bur[n] er, I don't know if Ubuntu has taken Breezy files when I upgraded.
[04:18] <bur[n] er> uhh... those image issues relate to an incomplete gtk theme?  try chaning themes?
[04:18] <mik3> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1942 <----any ideas? (repeating apt-get update, doing apt-get clean, does not fix it.)
[04:18] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: Now switch back to alt-F1 and install yaboot.
[04:18] <peanut> ihave a 64 bit
[04:18] <NoHope> bur[n] er, I will.
[04:18] <omp342> i'm downloading hoary right now.. what's a good program to burn the iso? :)
[04:19] <huahauha> prower , cause i know there are emoticons themes but what i want is something like i can add my own icons like in msn 6 i think
[04:19] <peanut> it wont install
[04:19] <bur[n] er> NoHope: where'd you get the 1.06 version from?  is it officially in hoary now?
[04:19] <cafuego> omp342: On what OS?
[04:19] <bur[n] er> omp342: graveman
[04:19] <omp342> cafuego: gentoo
[04:19] <h17m4n> when running as chroot on terminal, does it show as root@ubuntu?
[04:19] <Prower> huahauha: Yeah, I'm not sure whether or not you can do that...might be a good idea to ask in the gaim channel itself, they'd have a better idea :>
[04:19] <bur[n] er> omp342: gnomebaker, k3b, nautilus, command-line
[04:19] <cafuego> omp342: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc -v -eject -data hoary-i386.iso
[04:19] <NoHope> bur[n] er, I just opened synaptic and applyed the upgrades.
[04:19] <huahauha> ok
[04:19] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: how do i install it? >.<
[04:19] <omp342> cafuego: okay thanks
[04:19] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: 'apt-get install yaboot'
[04:19] <NoHope> bur[n] er, is hoary repos mixed with breezy repos?
[04:19] <huahauha> prower: im going to ask, ty
[04:20] <DarkFuture> kevogod: yea but i cant find the installer(im kinda a linux newb)
[04:20] <bur[n] er> NoHope: no, shouldn't be
[04:20] <NoHope> uhm...
[04:20] <durt> peanut, have you tried to install it?
[04:20] <NoHope> bur[n] er, I changed the theme, anything happens.
[04:20] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: apt-get: not found
[04:20] <peanut> yes it only is for i386
[04:20] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: woo!
[04:20] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: can it find 'dpkg' ?
[04:21] <durt> are you using a deb package peanut?
[04:21] <peanut> yes
[04:21] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: nope
[04:21] <NoHope> bur[n] er, is it possible to return to an older version? 1.0.2 have worked well.
[04:21] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: Ugh. Which terminal are you in? 1 or 2?
[04:21] <durt> then just compile from source peanut
[04:21] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: 1
[04:21] <fblade> i've lost my MBR can anyone help me fix it cus i cant loggin into linux or anything
[04:21] <peanut> im sort of a newbe how? durt
[04:21] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: Does '/usr/bin/dpkg' work?
[04:22] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: is it okay if i mounted in terminal 1?
[04:22] <bur[n] er> NoHope: find the .deb, it's not a painless task
[04:22] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: does /proc show up if you type 'df' in terminal 1?
[04:22] <NoHope> bur[n] er, right. thx.
[04:22] <bur[n] er> NoHope: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:22] <fblade> how can i fix my master boot recored
[04:22] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: no >.<
[04:23] <bur[n] er> fblade: re-run grub?
[04:23] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: No, that should have been typed into 2, not 1. 1 is *in* the chroot, 2 is outside it.
[04:23] <NoHope> bur[n] er, how to download breezy?
[04:23] <bur[n] er> NoHope: don't yet ;)
[04:23] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: so i haveto reboot?
[04:23] <peanut> fblade use your ubuntu cd
[04:23] <cafuego> NoHope: Not, if you don't know.
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> hey guys where can i find init file ? its not in / or sbin/init
[04:23] <peanut> and reinstall grub
[04:23] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: No, justt ype it into terminal 2.
[04:23] <NoHope> bur[n] er, cafuego, I know it's beta yet.
[04:24] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: type what?
[04:24] <NoHope> bur[n] er, cafuego, don't you think it's a good idea to test and report bugs?
[04:24] <bur[n] er> yeah, just wait a short while longer
[04:24] <h17m4n> I ran sudo mount -a and I got: mount: mount point /chroot/usr/share/fonts does not exist
[04:24] <h17m4n> Any ideas?
[04:24] <bur[n] er> NoHope: it is, but you may want to learn some more troubleshooting techniques first ;)
[04:24] <mik3> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1942 <----any ideas? (repeating apt-get update, doing apt-get clean, does not fix it.) this seems to be a large problem in the ubuntu community based on my google discoveries, does anyone have any insight for me?
[04:24] <durt> see this page peanut: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[04:25] <NoHope> bur[n] er, yap, you are right.
[04:25] <peanut> fblade this is how http://ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation
[04:25] <peanut> thanks durt
[04:26] <bur[n] er> NoHope: you can always try running thunderbird as another user to see if it's a problem with your profile?
[04:26] <bur[n] er> NoHope: also try chaning your gtk theme
[04:26] <NoHope> bur[n] er, uhm good idea. I will try with root. I tried changing my gtk theme, but anything happened.
[04:27] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: there is udpkg use this?
[04:27] <NoHope> bur[n] er, root can't run thunderbird, either.
[04:27] <angel12> hey, im currently running hoary on amd64, and whenever i try to write files to a usb drive, it doesnt stick, like it wont stay on unless i do it (copy the file) many times. This happens with my ipod, my usb sd card reader, and my external hd
[04:27] <NoHope> what's the differences between hoary and hoary-backports?
[04:27] <h17m4n> is ok for me to copy the /usr/share/fonts to /chroot/usr/share/fonts?
[04:27] <cafuego> Shikamaroo: udpkg should only be available in the installer, not on the system...*ponder*
[04:27] <h17m4n> is it*
[04:27] <Demon_stroke> hey guyz
[04:28] <Demon_stroke> I cant get my ubuntu on the internet
[04:28] <Demon_stroke> can someone walk me through it
[04:28] <angel12> Demon_stroke, what are you trying to use
[04:28] <omp342> Demon_stroke: what's so hard about downloading it?
[04:28] <h17m4n> Question: Is it ok for me to copy the /usr/share/fonts to /chroot/usr/share/fonts?
[04:28] <angel12> omp342, i think he means he cannot connect
[04:29] <omp342> oh
[04:29] <Demon_stroke> i meant, i got my DSL modem, and wen i plug it into the other comp, how do i get it to work
[04:29] <bur[n] er> NoHope: awww, if you're using backports, you can remove it from sources.list, remove thunderbird and reinstall using official hoary repos
[04:29] <omp342> never mind :)
[04:29] <omp342> i didn't read it good
[04:29] <FR500> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, my hoary cds just arrive
[04:29] <FR500> lol
[04:29] <angel12> nice
[04:29] <bur[n] er> FR500: just in time for breezy ;)
[04:29] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: the setup thing made me use some fallback shell, maybe this is y?
[04:29] <FR500> yes
[04:29] <durt> angel12: try unmounting before disconnecting
[04:29] <angel12> Demon_stroke, what do you mean?
[04:29] <ugo> is breezy out!!!?
[04:29] <omp342> Demon_stroke: are you using a router?
[04:29] <FR500> ugo: soon
[04:29] <dreamie> what is the package for xfce?
[04:29] <ugo> *hopeful*
[04:29] <dreamie> how can i install it
[04:29] <angel12> durt, that would be a great idea, lol, i actually never thought of that, lol thanks, will give it a try
[04:30] <ugo> k...
[04:30] <nalioth> dreamie: in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get install xfce4"
[04:30] <Demon_stroke> Ok, im used to windows, were i plug in my DSL modem into the computer, (directly plug dsl modem in), and it doesnt work,
[04:30] <ugo> how do i install the developer man pages
[04:30] <NoHope> bur[n] er, I see no "backports" in sources.list. Just multiverse, universe...
[04:30] <Demon_stroke> were as windows does it for me
[04:30] <angel12> Demon_stroke, it should work with ubuntu if you have it set up right, via dhcp
[04:30] <NoHope> bur[n] er, deb http://www.backports.org/debian stable ucf ?
[04:30] <omp342> Demon_stroke: i just plug mine into the router and it works
[04:30] <dreamie> hmm
[04:30] <omp342> cable
[04:30] <dreamie> can not find package
[04:30] <darksoul> is there a sudo command to get a flash maker on kubuntu
[04:31] <Demon_stroke> ok lemmi get a pen and a peice of paper, can u guyz walk me thorugh setting it up
[04:31] <Answer> To setup networking use commands  ifconfig iwconfig dhclient
[04:31] <peanut> demon Stroke, try rebooting
[04:31] <ugo> how do i install the developer man pages
[04:31] <dreamie> nalioth, couldnt find package xfce4
[04:31] <angel12> is it possible to run 32bit binaries on amd64 port?
[04:31] <ugo> aptitude ?
[04:31] <professor_chaos> Demon_stroke, go to System->Administration->Networking  and make sure your connection is set to DHCP
[04:31] <omp342> i tried xfce4 a few days ago, it was horrible :)
[04:31] <[Chameleon] > angel12: yes.
[04:31] <zcat[1] > dsl modem is network or USB?
[04:31] <nalioth> dreamie: enable your repos and update your apt
[04:31] <angel12> Demon_stroke, try ifup eth0
[04:31] <nalioth> !tell dreamie about sources
[04:31] <darksoul> ??
[04:32] <darksoul> is there a sudo apt-get install command for flash makers
[04:32] <skalpel> can someone give me an idea why amarok would sudenly stop playing my music files?
[04:32] <Demon_stroke> through the terminal
[04:32] <Answer> Network Config: ifconfig iwconfig dhclient
[04:32] <dreamie> nalioth, i am in console
[04:32] <dreamie> nalioth, how do i do it in console
[04:32] <Demon_stroke> interface etho is alredy configured
[04:32] <peanut> demon stroke, yes
[04:33] <darksoul> how do i get a flash maker thru sudo apt-get install commands
[04:33] <Demon_stroke> ok lemmi do that, so ill lose my connection in this irc for a momment
[04:33] <zcat[1] > assuming it's not a USB modem..
[04:34] <Demon_stroke> plugs into my ethernet card
[04:34] <zcat[1] > good
[04:34] <Demon_stroke> so just plug in and reboot and itll work automatically?
[04:34] <gusto5> hello #ubuntu
[04:34] <Answer> Demon_stroke: ifconfig iwconfig dhclient
[04:34] <Shikamaroo> cafuego: can u tell me how to setup yaboot using the live cd?
[04:34] <zcat[1] > Answer: iWconfig? for a network card?
[04:34] <gusto5> can anyone guide me through a samba setup?
[04:34] <Answer> zcat: ifconfig for ethernet, iwconfig for wireless
[04:35] <gusto5> other than directing me to ubuntuguide.org...
[04:35] <omp342> if i am installing the i386 version on an athlon 64 comp, would i need to change anything for it to work fine? :)
[04:35] <HrdwrBoB> !samba
[04:35] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[04:35] <Demon_stroke> brb
[04:35] <h17m4n> cp: omitting directory `/usr/share/fonts'
[04:35] <Answer> If ifconfig shows IP Address for ethN you are connected to the DHCP server (cable modem or routeR).
[04:35] <gusto5> thank you, HrdwrBoB
[04:35] <HrdwrBoB> no worries
[04:35] <NoHope> ubotu tell me about deb
[04:36] <h17m4n> thats what I got when running this: root@ubuntu:~# cp /usr/share/fonts /chroot/usr/share/fonts
[04:36] <h17m4n> !deb
[04:36] <ubotu> No idea, h17m4n
[04:36] <zcat[1] > If it's plugged in and serving dhcp, the box should get a lease exactly the same way Windows does.
[04:36] <NoHope> ops... some tip about how to install a local deb package?
[04:36] <[Chameleon] > NoHope: dpkg
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> !dpkg
[04:37] <ubotu> well, dpkg is the Debian Package Manager.  To install a local deb file, cd into the directory where it is located, then: 'sudo dpkg --install <package_filename.deb>'.  For more info on other dpkg options: 'man dpkg'
[04:37] <skpl> can someone tell me wy amarok would suddenyl stop playing music files?
[04:37] <NoHope> [Chameleon] , thx.
[04:37] <professor_chaos> NoHope, sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[04:37] <h17m4n> can anyone help me copy /usr/share/fonts to /chroot/usr/share/fonts?
[04:37] <h17m4n> how do I force it to cp?
[04:37] <blrich> anyone here use xfce on ubuntu? can you tell me where the Terminal app is?
[04:37] <nalioth> NoHope: the program you want isnt in the repos?
[04:38] <skpl> what is xfce?
[04:38] <zcat[1] > My first advice for getting any hardware working under ubuntu is "plug it in, and see if it's working already" - so often things are autodetected and just come up by themselves, even stuff that would need drivers installed for Windows
[04:38] <[Chameleon] > h17m4n: sudo cp -a /usr/share/fonts/. /chroot/usr/share/fonts/
[04:38] <[Chameleon] > skpl: an alternative graphical desktop environment.
[04:38] <NoHope> nalioth, yes it is. thunderbird 1.0.6, but it's not working for me. I'm trying to reinstall.
[04:38] <skalpel> [Chameleon] : how do i install it?
[04:38] <durt> it should be in one of the menus in xfce
[04:39] <h17m4n> wow thx [Chameleon] , that worked
[04:39] <Xorlev> Easier method of compiling kernels: put the kernels in the microwave for ~2 1/2 minutes, put in blender with water, then dump on PC. Its that simple.
[04:39] <[Chameleon] > h17m4n: groovy
[04:39] <zcat[1] > ubuntu surprised the hell out of me; my camera and mp3 player that took ages to figure out in debian just pop up in the desktop with ubuntu!
[04:39] <NoHope> bur[n] er, I download the deb package and now it's working very well. thx.
[04:39] <nalioth> NoHope: i dont think its the program, have you moved the ~/.thunderbird or ~/.mozilla-thunderbird to soemwhere else and tried again?
[04:40] <nalioth> NoHope: it may be an extension causing failure
[04:40] <NoHope> nalioth, no.
[04:40] <NoHope> nalioth, I reinstallled it, and now it's working welll...
[04:40] <Mr-Falkor> hum
[04:40] <Mr-Falkor> my XMMS is freezing alot
[04:40] <ugo> please could someone tell me the package for the developer manpage in ubtu
[04:41] <Mr-Falkor> when IM change to a song
[04:41] <bur[n] er> NoHope: good work :)
[04:41] <nalioth> NoHope: ah
[04:41] <Mr-Falkor> Can someone help me with my xmms ?:)
[04:41] <mik3> try beep-media-player
[04:41] <NoHope> Mr-Falkor, beep-media-player is a lot better than xmms.
[04:41] <durt> no its not
[04:42] <imterro> do you get banned if you say w1nd0ws?
[04:42] <NoHope> durt, it's relative. for me it is...
[04:42] <mik3> i think it is.
[04:42] <blunted> ok how do i change my Grub menu so that i can boot my win 98 hard drive
[04:42] <mik3> Mr-Falkor : sudo apt-get install bmp
[04:42] <Mr-Falkor> mik3, bmp ?
[04:42] <Mr-Falkor> mik3, ah
[04:42] <Mr-Falkor> nvm
[04:42] <NoHope> Mr-Falkor, beep-media-player
[04:42] <Mr-Falkor> gonna try it
[04:42] <mik3> i think that's the activator for beep-media-player, i may be wrong tho
[04:43] <bur[n] er> mik3: i think you're wrong ;)
[04:43] <NoHope> I'm not sure, but I think bmp works directly with alsa, while xmms works with oss.
[04:43] <Mr-Falkor> Apt could not find bmp
[04:43] <mik3> bur[n] er teehee
[04:43] <Mr-Falkor> ah
[04:43] <Mr-Falkor> found it
[04:43] <ezenu> wish i could get bmp to work ;(
[04:44] <blunted> yo
[04:44] <blunted> who can help me
[04:44] <mik3> i love bmp
[04:44] <blunted> so that i can boot my 2nd hard drive
[04:44] <Kyral> It should have done that on setup
[04:44] <blunted> i didnt have the disk on setup
[04:45] <ezenu> my OSS sound doesn't work. in BMP, the only available output is OSS. XMMS works for me cause I can use ALSA
[04:45] <Kyral> but beyond that I can't edit a grubconf to save my life
[04:45] <ezenu> so.. how do I change BMP to use alsa
[04:45] <Mr-Falkor> oh,.. bmp look just like xmms :D
[04:45] <ezenu> yea, but i can minimize bmp to system tray.. can't do that with xmms
[04:46] <ezenu> i sortof can, but it stays in window list thing at bottom
[04:46] <zcat[1] > I'm sure there's a plugin for docking xmms
[04:46] <ezenu> there is.. and mine is activated, but its window is still on bottom part
[04:47] <ezenu> even when it is 'docked' to sys tray
[04:47] <zcat[1] > hmm..
[04:47] <ezenu> someone on forums posted a solution... but it was for KDE & I don't know how to access those options with gnome
[04:47] <zcat[1] > I only ever shrink it down and leave it up the top of the desktop..
[04:49] <blunted> can anyone help me change my grub config?
[04:49] <blunted> !grub
[04:49] <ubotu> it has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:49] <[Chameleon] > blunted: I can
[04:49] <mik3> !gzip
[04:49] <ubotu> mik3: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:49] <durt> just get gxmms
[04:49] <blunted> ok
[04:49] <blunted> i have just added a new hd to this machine
[04:50] <blunted> it has windows on it
[04:50] <blunted> how do i make it so i can select it to boot
[04:50] <Mr-Falkor> Where can I find bmp skins ?:)
[04:50] <Mr-Falkor> Can I use xmms skins on bmp ?
[04:50] <blunted> its not on the grub menu
[04:50] <durt> blunted try system>admin>boot
[04:50] <regeya> Mr-Falkor, xmms and classic winamp skins will work in bmp
[04:51] <[Chameleon] > durt: would that work if he didn't have Windows present when Linux was being installed?
[04:51] <Mr-Falkor> regeya, thnx
[04:51] <blunted> the disk is mounted
[04:51] <blunted> so if i go to Places
[04:51] <[Chameleon] > blunted: that first link provided by ubotu will help you get it fixed.
[04:51] <blunted> then computer
[04:51] <Mr-Falkor> so,.. what bmp do that xmms cant do ?
[04:51] <ezenu> minimize to tray completely
[04:51] <Mr-Falkor> non-freezing ?:P
[04:51] <Mr-Falkor> oh,, two things
[04:52] <regeya> btw, the xmms-mad plugin has been ported to bmp; it just has the slight problem of having a goofy nonstandard i18n lib attached to it.  someone should take a look at it, and that someone should be someone who uses bmp on a regular basis. *wink*
[04:52] <durt> you can create a new boot image with boot manager cant you?
[04:53] <durt> has the mplayer plugin for xmms been known to work with bmp?
[04:53] <transparentdream> hey
[04:53] <transparentdream> need help
[04:53] <transparentdream> How do i tell if cupsd is working?
[04:53] <transparentdream> because i cant prin for some reason now
[04:54] <claint> any reason why my ubuntu thinks the hoary packages cannot be authenticated? did I lose my key or something?
[04:54] <ezenu> hmm. i just installed like 30 libs and other junk from synaptic & now bmp works
[04:54] <nalioth> claint: you may not be using correct repos
[04:54] <blunted> that link didnt help
[04:54] <blunted> it tells me how to increase the grub timeout for pressing ESC
[04:54] <ezenu> think it might've been the OSS ALSA wrapper.. where alsa actually does the work but appears to be oss
[04:54] <claint> nalioth: what are the correct repos then?
[04:55] <transparentdream> My printer isn;t working!! How do I check if CUPS is on?
[04:55] <Kyral> !cups
[04:55] <ubotu> Kyral: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:55] <claint> Kyral: ;-p
[04:55] <transparentdream> cups not found
[04:55] <durt> sys>admin>services
[04:55] <claint> transparentdream : check port 6700?
[04:55] <[Chameleon] > blunted: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  search for "#If you're reading this guide, you probably want this"
[04:56] <transparentdream> well it worked before, why would it stop now?
[04:56] <transparentdream> something with cupsd
[04:56] <transparentdream> is it like reboot cupsd
[04:56] <transparentdream> or what
[04:56] <Kyral> sudo cupsd start?
[04:56] <[Chameleon] > blunted: and durt is right... System > Administration > Boot    will be very helpful.
[04:57] <[Chameleon] > durt: thx
[04:57] <blahblahblah> ok new plan
[04:57] <claint> transparentdream : check your /etc/init.d, and see if cups is there.
[04:57] <blunted> i,
[04:57] <blunted> er
[04:57] <transparentdream> how do i do that?
[04:57] <blahblahblah> net wont work on it, nothing else is working, im getting mad
[04:57] <blunted> i dont have that in my System menu :\
[04:57] <blahblahblah> so how do i take it off
[04:57] <[Chameleon] > blunted: are you running Hoary or Breezy?
[04:57] <blunted> hoary
[04:57] <claint> transparentdream : ls /etc/init.d
[04:57] <Madpilot> well, that's cool - discovered that digicams work seamlessly in gThumb... good to know, esp. as the camera in question won't talk to Win98 at all...
[04:57] <aru> blunted: what are you trying to do?
[04:58] <[Chameleon] > blunted: oh, yeah, it's not in Hoary by default.
[04:58] <blahblahblah> hey ppl, how do i take ubuntu off my comp and install windows
[04:58] <transparentdream> cupsys is there
[04:58] <regeya> rofflecopters.
[04:58] <transparentdream> not cups
[04:58] <[Chameleon] > aru: add a Windows partition boot section in Grub.
[04:58] <blunted> im trying to make it where i can boot my windows hard drive
[04:58] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, it's unavailable
[04:58] <[Chameleon] > blunted: it's on that page man.
[04:58] <blahblahblah> its wut
[04:58] <Madpilot> blahblahblah: why would you want to do something like that?
[04:58] <aru> yeah boot isnt in that menu :)
[04:58] <bimberi> transparentdream: see if cups is running with "ps auxw | grep cupsd" (look for any result other than "grep cupsd")
[04:59] <blahblahblah> because ubuntu doesnt work like its supposed to, i dont know why, ive tried everything
[04:59] <[Chameleon] > aru: not in Hoary, but it is in Breezy
[04:59] <blahblahblah> maybe itsmy comp,
[04:59] <blahblahblah> i dunno
[04:59] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, it's 'by design' new ubuntu feature - sorry :)
[04:59] <aru> blahblahblah: lets start with what the problem is
[04:59] <[Chameleon] > aru: I actually installed that Boot manager in Hoary, but I think it's a bit much for blunted right now.
[04:59] <[Chameleon] > blunted: I'll walk you through editing your Grub config file in a private chat window.
[04:59] <aru> maybe
[04:59] <blahblahblah> first off, how do i trash ubuntu and get windows on
[04:59] <claint> transparentdream : you are better off asking your questions here and not personal messaging me. especially not flooding me with your messages.
[04:59] <bur[n] er> blahblahblah: try the #windows support channel ;)
[05:00] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, first please tell us what doesn;t work ?
[05:00] <Mr-Falkor> There is one thing I do NOT understand,.. Why is there so many distro ? I mean, its all the same packages and just a new logo !
[05:00] <blahblahblah> internet wont work on it
[05:00] <transparentdream> oh sorry
[05:00] <Teez> Hey everyone, Just curious -- how do I get my SoundBlaster Audigy 2 working under Ubuntu, what do I need?
[05:00] <ian> Mr-Falkor: free will?
[05:00] <bur[n] er> Mr-Falkor: more to it than that
[05:00] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, what kind of internet connectivity you got?
[05:00] <transparentdream> When I installed it, it printed a test page fine.
[05:00] <transparentdream> Now it doesnt want to work
[05:00] <bimberi> transparentdream: see if cups is running with "ps auxw | grep cupsd" (look for any result other than "grep cupsd")
[05:01] <aru> Teez: should work out of the box, mine does... do you get any sound at all?
[05:01] <Teez> Nope, no sound at all, tried messing with it via alsamixergui too.
[05:01] <blahblahblah> dsl,
[05:01] <bur[n] er> Teez: usb perchance?
[05:01] <transparentdream> cupsys is running
[05:01] <Teez> Nope...
[05:01] <aru> Teez: speakers plugged in :)
[05:01] <EricB> Hi, I heard that there is no root account in Ubuntu. I'm interested in running a server but I don't want users to be able to use the sudo command.
[05:01] <Mr-Falkor> OK :]
[05:01] <Teez> And yes, I just reformatted from windows, everything was working 100%
[05:01] <tritium> EricB, then don't give them sudo priveleges
[05:01] <aj_calrissian> damn I love linux!!!!
[05:01] <Madpilot> EricB: you can set users up w/o sudoer privs
[05:01] <bur[n] er> EricB: only users in the /etc/sudoers file can use sudo
[05:01] <aru> Teez: I have to ask, some times thats really the problem
[05:02] <Teez> heheh
[05:02] <EricB> Ok, thank you.
[05:02] <tritium> and don't add them to the admin group
[05:02] <aj_calrissian> I'm finally starting to get the hang of it!!!
[05:02] <bur[n] er> lol
[05:02] <bimberi> transparentdream: try checking the status of your printer via System -> Admin -> Printing
[05:02] <Mr-Falkor> hum,.. Iam boored,.. can somebody recommend me something to do ? (nothing with computers)
[05:02] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, ok its propably usb dsl modem?
[05:02] <transparentdream> it says ready
[05:02] <Teez> lspci shows 0000:02:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[05:02] <blahblahblah> no ethernet
[05:02] <tritium> Mr-Falkor, how can life possible afford anybody time to be bored?
[05:02] <blunted> lol
[05:02] <transparentdream> it also says open device failed
[05:02] <aj_calrissian> Mr-falkor, if you're bored of your computer you can give it to me!
[05:02] <Cashel> Anyone know about glade2perl or how I can get glade to write perl directly? Coulda sworn it did...
[05:02] <blunted> they can't help you with sound here dude
[05:02] <claint> Mr-Falkor : beer?
[05:02] <tritium> s/possible/possibly
[05:02] <blunted> i've tried
[05:02] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, hmmm then it should work without any problem
[05:03] <ian> Mr-Falkor: go for a walk
[05:03] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, you get IP with dhcp or you got static?
[05:03] <Mr-Falkor> tritium, dunno !:P
[05:03] <h17m4n> I got chroot working woot
[05:03] <anomaly> Mr-Falkor set up a paper cup 10ft away from you. then using only a rubberband and a quarter, find out how many times you can shoot the quarter into the cup with cup being vertical.
[05:03] <blahblahblah> i dont know
[05:03] <Mr-Falkor> aj_calrissian, nope ;)
[05:03] <bimberi> Mr-Falkor: beer while walking :)
[05:03] <blahblahblah> will it show here on my xp
[05:03] <aj_calrissian> ahh man!
[05:03] <Mr-Falkor> claint, dont drinking
[05:03] <aj_calrissian> :P
[05:03] <Mr-Falkor> ian, to lazy :P
[05:03] <Mr-Falkor> bimberi, hehe !:)
[05:03] <Mr-Falkor> :P
[05:03] <h17m4n> running AMD64 ubuntu and about to chroot 32 bit firefox with FLASH
[05:04] <bur[n] er> blahblahblah: you have a router? cable modem?
[05:04] <claint> Mr-Falkor : "dont drinking"? I think you have been already ;-p
[05:04] <transparentdream> Why isn;t my printer working? It says it's ready but oculd not open device
[05:04] <Mr-Falkor> claint, damn,.. you got me there !
[05:04] <blahblahblah> Cable modem
[05:04] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, first take a look on your windows config
[05:04] <bur[n] er> you have dhcp
[05:04] <Teez> So -- what should I try to get sound working? I've tried everything (under my limited linux driver knowlege) I can think of to get it working...
[05:04] <bur[n] er> 9 times out of 10, it's dhcp with cable modems
[05:04] <blahblahblah> static ip and ip subnet mask is shown
[05:05] <bur[n] er> well blow me down
[05:05] <Teez> I dont even hear ubuntu startup music etc
[05:05] <bur[n] er> ;)
[05:05] <bimberi> transparentdream: what type of printer (eg. usb)?
[05:05] <ian> Mr-Falkor: study english
[05:05] <red_> Has anyone setup xcopilot under ubuntu
[05:05] <transparentdream> USB Officejet K80
[05:05] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, write down its settings and then run ubuntu - and gnome network configuration tools
[05:05] <aru> Teez: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-18802.html
[05:05] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, and try to input these settings
[05:05] <Mr-Falkor> ian, nah,.. Im just happy that I can understand english !:)
[05:05] <Madpilot> transparentdream: HP officejet?
[05:06] <transparentdream> yes
[05:06] <bimberi> transparentdream: does show with "lsusb"
[05:06] <ian> Mr-Falkor: study greek
[05:06] <bimberi> s/s s/s it s/
[05:06] <transparentdream> what is that?
[05:06] <aj_calrissian> hey guys, I'm running Kubuntu but the conversation is a little dry over there. when I go into Kubuntu and click to upgrade for example OO.o does it get the latest (stable) version?
[05:06] <aru> Teez: I knew it was there somewhere, just couldnt remember
[05:06] <Mr-Falkor> ian, nah,.. Im just happu that I do not understand greek !:)
[05:06] <bimberi> transparentdream: a terminal command
[05:06] <Mr-Falkor> happy*
[05:06] <blahblahblah> says assigned by DHCP
[05:06] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, have you got ubuntu desktop installed? (of course your network doesn;t work but desktop should)
[05:06] <transparentdream> lemme try iy
[05:06] <ian> Mr-Falkor: find a woman
[05:07] <blahblahblah> wut do u mean
[05:07] <transparentdream> It just shows up as Hewlett-Packard
[05:07] <Madpilot> transparentdream: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-OfficeJet_K80
[05:07] <red_> has anyone used uclinux under ubuntu?
[05:07] <Mr-Falkor> ian, already have a woman friend friend !;)
[05:07] <bimberi> transparentdream: hm, that sounds ok then...
[05:07] <blahblahblah> wut do u mean by desktop should work
[05:07] <ian> Mr-Falkor: play with her
[05:07] <tritium> blahblahblah, the word is "what"
[05:07] <Teez> aru, where do I check "Analog / Digital Output Jack" at?
[05:07] <h17m4n> I ubuntu-kubuntu AMD64 Chroot 32!
[05:08] <transparentdream> well why won;t it print? It's a  local printer, but it always goes to network
[05:08] <blahblahblah> ok what do u mean
[05:08] <transparentdream> can i take it if of cups?
[05:08] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, I would like to know if you installed ubuntu and you got desktop or if you are trying to install and you cannot configure network during installation
[05:08] <transparentdream> off of cups**?
[05:08] <felipe_> Hi
[05:08] <ian> hello felipe
[05:08] <Mr-Falkor> ian, already done,.. But -- I wanna do something with my computer now :) humm,, lemme see, what can I do with my computer right now ?
[05:08] <blahblahblah> yes its all installed
[05:08] <h17m4n> fala felipe
[05:08] <bimberi> transparentdream: i doubt it, but i don't know for sure
[05:08] <ian> Mr-Falkor: wikipedia!
[05:09] <Madpilot> transparentdream: that linuxprinting.org page recommends the hp drivers - they're included in Ubuntu repos - my HP 5740 works fine
[05:09] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, so you got single computer with dsl modem connected via ethernet
[05:09] <transparentdream> yes the driver works fine
[05:09] <ian> Mr-Falkor: if you're able to compile code, I have something you could help with
[05:09] <Mr-Falkor> ian, Wikipedia`s keeps me more boored
[05:09] <transparentdream> thats not the problem
[05:09] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, and this is dual boot machine
[05:09] <blahblahblah> 2 computers,
[05:09] <Milk_> ohh.. no more extra step!! YEA!!
[05:09] <rahotep> I've got a noob boot-up question...
[05:09] <Mr-Falkor> ian, oh,.. lemme see !:P
[05:10] <blahblahblah> one with ubuntu and one with windows
[05:10] <transparentdream> When i installed the printer, it worked fine, printed and everything
[05:10] <Milk_> dies anyone know how to install true type fonts in ubuntu?
[05:10] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, and on your network config on windows says that you get IP via dhcp - right?
[05:10] <transparentdream> 3 days later, it wont print
[05:10] <blahblahblah> yes
[05:10] <ian> Mr-Falkor: get this compiled on ubuntu and note the steps  http://linuxadvocate.org/projects/roadster/
[05:10] <Madpilot> Milk_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[05:10] <rahotep> every time I boot, a number of windows are already open -- it's like a saved session or something is trying to restore -- anybody know how to stop that from happening?
[05:10] <h17m4n> !fonts
[05:10] <ubotu> I heard fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[05:11] <Milk_> Madpilot, thanks!! I think I only ever searched for true type.. haah
[05:11] <animepunkw> hey everyone
[05:11] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, do you need to do something like 'dial' to get connection on windows?
[05:11] <ian> Mr-Falkor: if you want to give it a try, feel free to private message me
[05:11] <blahblahblah> no its dsl, i just plug in the ethernet cable to the card and it works
[05:11] <Madpilot> Milk_: no prob; TTF fonts work fine in Linux, BTW...
[05:11] <transparentdream> How do I tell is cups is installed right
[05:11] <Teez> aru, where do I check "Analog / Digital Output Jack" at?
[05:11] <Mr-Falkor> ian, Im gonna download it now :!)
[05:11] <h17m4n> but its a PPPoE connection isnt it?
[05:12] <h17m4n> don't you have to log in?
[05:12] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, what country/provider?
[05:12] <blahblahblah> us/charter communications
[05:12] <transparentdream> CUPS has it as this: hp:/usb/OfficeJet_K80?serial=MY23BD614MOH
[05:12] <transparentdream> is that right?
[05:12] <odat> heya everyone
[05:12] <animepunkw> hey
[05:13] <odat> does anyone know how i put the trashcan back on the desktop?
[05:13] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, do you have something like ID and password to establish connection?
[05:13] <Madpilot> transparentdream: looks right - the linuxprinting pages have heaps of CUPS info on them
[05:13] <blahblahblah> nope
[05:13] <Cashel> odat, right click on the panel.. click add to panel, select Trash Can, and presto, there it is
[05:14] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, _are you sure_ ?
[05:14] <transparentdream> Well why isn;t it working? In the CUPs webpage I can;t login for some reason
[05:14] <blahblahblah> yes,
[05:14] <odat> cashel: no i want to put the trashcan on the desktop not on the panel
[05:14] <blahblahblah> im positive
[05:14] <transparentdream> It says Administratice tasks disbled
[05:14] <Cashel> odat, put it on the panel, then move it to the desktop
[05:14] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, you could provide this id and password only once and now it just works
[05:14] <Madpilot> transparentdream: System menu - Admin - Printing gets you the Gnome front-end to CUPS
[05:14] <animepunkw> blahblahblah , whats going on with your dsl ?
[05:15] <NoHope> is there a way to unrar a file without use [rar]  or [unrar] ?
[05:15] <blahblahblah> arg
[05:15] <rahotep> I'm sorry if I missed the post, but does anybody know how to keep previous programs from automatically starting on boot?
[05:15] <blahblahblah> this is getting me so irritated
[05:15] <blahblahblah> i use firefox and it just says couldnt find url
[05:16] <Madpilot> blahblahblah: try google.com or one of the giant sites that're always up?
[05:16] <durt> odat: your trash is in ~/.Trash, so make a launcher
[05:16] <blahblahblah> did that
[05:16] <Milk_> whats the problem blahblahblah?
[05:16] <animepunkw> are you connected to it right now ?
[05:16] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, hmm just a moment
[05:16] <blahblahblah> .....oviously no rofl
[05:16] <animepunkw> :P
[05:16] <Teez> Hey, could anyone help me real quick, someone pointed me to change from digital to analog for my soundcard, but when I go to the gnome mixer and try to change to analog, it crashes the volume controller
[05:16] <Mr-Falkor> ian, agh -- Could not autogen,..  got a error :P
[05:17] <Cashel> odat, ahh, just tried that myself.. apparently it can only exist on a panel... tho why that should be I have no idea...
[05:17] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, I'm googling but at the meantime I got another question
[05:17] <Teez> Is there a console application to change from digital to analog?
[05:17] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, you got only one computer - right? so you are on windows currently?
[05:17] <aru> Teez: did the same to mine...
[05:17] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, and you don't have internet when you are on ubuntu?
[05:18] <Teez> aru, Any idea how to fix that? :-\
[05:18] <blahblahblah> i got 2 comps, wen i plug my dsl modem into the one with ubuntu on it i dont get a connection
[05:18] <aru> thats why I didn't respond, I was playing with that... figured out how to get my mic working from the front though :)
[05:18] <ian> Mr-Falkor: are you getting my private messages?
[05:18] <animepunkw> do you get a connection with the other ?
[05:18] <Mr-Falkor> ian, nope
[05:18] <h17m4n> Question: How do I make a desktop icon of a chroot Firefox 32-bit?
[05:18] <blahblahblah> i thnk im gonna go windows
[05:19] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, haaaa
[05:19] <blahblahblah> seriosuly
[05:19] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, so you got machine with windows - and another machine with linux?
[05:19] <Teez> blahblahblah, I just came from windows, after you get the initial setup, linux is *ALOT* smoother
[05:19] <blahblahblah> yes
[05:19] <Teez> haha
[05:19] <Cashel> blahblahblah, are you trying to plug both in at once, or reusing the same cable? Is your network card installed under ubuntu? have you tried rerunning the dhcp bit of base-configure?
[05:19] <transparentdream> OK someone please help me with my printer problem!! It won;t print and I don;t know why, it printed 3 days ago but not anymore!
[05:19] <aru> Teez: should we try this? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1814905#post1814905
[05:19] <blahblahblah> same cable
[05:19] <blahblahblah> 1 comp at a time
[05:19] <h17m4n> hmm
[05:19] <h17m4n> try this
[05:20] <blahblahblah> how do i install my net card
[05:20] <Kyral> transparentdream, try posting on the forums
[05:20] <h17m4n> plug the modem cable into the ubuntu machine
[05:20] <Kyral> The channel seems too hectic right now
[05:20] <Teez> aru: I'll give it a try, I tried that before I tried a total reinstall tho, nothing was muted.
[05:20] <Mr-Falkor> ahg,.. its HOT here !
[05:20] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, there is a really big chance that your provider uses your mac to identify your network card
[05:20] <Mr-Falkor> *opens a window*
[05:20] <h17m4n> and turn of your modem for 5 secs, then turn it on again
[05:20] <Madpilot> transparentdream: it's USB, right? unplug it and replug it, see if that fixes the thing...
[05:20] <ian> Mr-Falkor: /j #roadster
[05:20] <animepunkw> if one computer works and the other dosn't could be that the mac of the one is recorded in the isp's router, and you'd need to release it before moving it to another
[05:20] <transparentdream> ok let me try
[05:20] <odat> hmmm someone showed me a command show trash desktop before but i can't remember
[05:20] <blahblahblah> so i turn it off?
[05:20] <blahblahblah> ..........
[05:21] <blahblahblah> or wut
[05:21] <h17m4n> it's because when the modem first turns on, it gets an IP for the mac adress on ur first card
[05:21] <animepunkw> if it's windows ipconfig /release
[05:21] <rahotep> When I boot -- a bunch of old windows are automatically open -- how do I stop that?
[05:21] <h17m4n> so you can't just unplug the cable and put it into another machine because it won't work
[05:21] <transparentdream> Madpilot: Ready: open device failed; will retry in 30 seconds...
[05:21] <Teez> aru, I fixed it.
[05:21] <blahblahblah> how do i get it to work then
[05:21] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, well if your provider identifies you with mac then you can try to restart modem - but in fact
[05:21] <h17m4n> but it will work when you plug it back to the machine it was plugged into when the modem came on
[05:21] <aru> how?
[05:21] <Teez> aru, Run alsamixer and go over to "Audigy Analog / Digital output jack"
[05:21] <Teez> Then it works when you unmute it
[05:21] <aru> woot
[05:22] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, it is really possible that you will have to contact your provider and tell them that you got another machine you want to use with your dsl
[05:22] <blahblahblah> yes
[05:22] <h17m4n> blablahblah, Try this: Plug the ethernet cable into the ubuntu machine, restart the modem and see what happens
[05:22] <blahblahblah> thats shit
[05:22] <blahblahblah> fuck
[05:22] <durt> odat: its somewhere in applications>systools>configuration editor
[05:22] <blahblahblah> lemmi unplug, turn it off
[05:22] <blahblahblah> turn it back on
[05:22] <blahblahblah> -.-
[05:22] <blahblahblah> brb
[05:22] <marcin_ant> blahblahblah, ok
[05:23] <animepunkw> I work for a dsl tech support :P we get stuff like that, just running a ipconfig /release normaly release's the mac on the isp side so you can plug in another computer
[05:23] <h17m4n> I had these same problems with 2 windows machines
[05:23] <h17m4n> its common
[05:23] <aru> where does this Sound Recorder program record from?
[05:23] <Xanthus7> anyone in here use hellanzb
[05:24] <Cashel> Aru: where ever you've set it up to..... system > preferences > multimedia selector
[05:25] <aru> yar
[05:25] <blah_sameguylol> ok
[05:25] <blah_sameguylol> still didnt work
[05:25] <blah_sameguylol> so windows will go back on it
[05:25] <blah_sameguylol> -.-
[05:25] <transparentdream> Yea that didnt work
[05:25] <transparentdream> OK someone PLEASE help me with my printer problem!
[05:25] <animepunkw> hey can anyone heal out a linux newb with a problem with xmms when ever i try playing a mp3 it comes up "couldn't open audio" please check that : your soundcard is configured properly, You have the correct output plugin selected, No other program is blocking the soundcard. any idea's .. sound dose work with other programs too
[05:25] <blah_sameguylol> ok so, i can install windows the same way i installed linux right?
[05:26] <nalioth> animepunkw: you've installed mp3 support, right?
[05:26] <Madpilot> blah_sameguylol: installing windows requires a blood sacrifice, and can only be done under a new moon. honest.
[05:26] <animepunkw> err i think i did
[05:26] <durt> odat: in the configuration editor, go to apps>nautilus>desktop and select trast_icon_visible
[05:26] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, ok sure you can install windows
[05:27] <blah_sameguylol> kewl how
[05:27] <nalioth> !tell animepunkw about restricted
[05:27] <blah_sameguylol> put in disk on reboot?
[05:27] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, the thing is that you propably won't have internet on this second machine on windows too ;)
[05:27] <nalioth> animepunkw: check and see, and if so, i have little idea about sound hardware stuff
[05:27] <transparentdream> OK someone PLEASE help me with my printer problem! It's connected via USB, printed a few days ago, won;t print anymore PLEASE HELP
[05:27] <blah_sameguylol> yeh but i cant watch porno on my linux without net because of codec issues, so windows i can watch porn
[05:28] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, and then _plaease_ tell us about that :)
[05:28] <animepunkw> ok thanks brb
[05:28] <rahotep> I had some apps open during shutdown a long time ago, but now they open every time I boot -- is there any way to stop that from happening??
[05:28] <blah_sameguylol> ok how do i get windows on
[05:28] <durt> i have the same problem blah_sameguylol :(
[05:28] <Cashel> codec issues? fix them!
[05:28] <hermit> what would cause my urxvt to not read settings from ~/.Xdefaults ?
[05:28] <blah_sameguylol> i tried for 4 hours with xperts,
[05:28] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, I don't know what are you talking about guys ;)
[05:28] <durt> newer WMVs wont play in linux
[05:28] <hermit> I use this same ~/.Xdefaults file on another machine and it works fine, but on ubuntu it's not working that way.
[05:28] <blah_sameguylol> OK, how do i reinstall windows
[05:29] <h17m4n> Question: How do I make a desktop icon of a chroot Firefox 32-bit?
[05:29] <Cashel> ... and then there was silence... lol
[05:29] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, I can watch in fact all porn I download ;)
[05:29] <transparentdream> OK someone PLEASE help me with my printer problem! It's connected via USB, printed a few days ago, won;t print anymore PLEASE HELP
[05:29] <hermit> transparentdream: put ink in it
[05:29] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, anyway I don't unsterstand why you keep asking about windows
[05:29] <durt> marcin_ant: are you downloading WMVs?
[05:29] <blah_sameguylol> i want to reinstall windows 95 on my comp
[05:30] <Lordphyn> hi, am having mystery samba "timeout" problems, any help
[05:30] <tritium> transparentdream, please quit repeating.
[05:30] <pussfeller> gstreamer0.8-faad: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[05:30] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, 1. we are not MS windows support, 2. just boot from windows CD and see what will happen
[05:30] <marcin_ant> durt, sure
[05:30] <pussfeller> what exactly does that mean
[05:30] <transparentdream> Well then will someone help me?
[05:30] <blah_sameguylol> i did and it loaded ubuntu
[05:30] <durt> marcin_ant: and do you have anything special other than w32codecs installed?
[05:30] <Cashel> pussfeller, you using non standard repositories? That happened to me that way...
[05:31] <Kyral> transparentdream, did you try to post on the forums?
[05:31] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, ehh believe me that we are not hardware support too....
[05:31] <Madpilot> blah_sameguylol: you probably need to set your bios boot order - CD first, then HD...
[05:31] <transparentdream> what forums
[05:31] <nalioth> howdy tritium
[05:31] <durt> ubuntu forums
[05:31] <Kyral> !forums
[05:31] <tritium> hi nalioth :)
[05:31] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, but I'll tell you - go to bios and set cd rom as boot device
[05:31] <transparentdream> !forums
[05:31] <transparentdream> what
[05:31] <Madpilot> transparentdream: http://ubuntuforums.org/
[05:31] <Kyral> www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:31] <marcin_ant> durt, I got codecs pack from mplayerhq.hu
[05:32] <tritium> transparentdream, what changed since the time when printing was working?
[05:32] <pussfeller> windows 95? heh
[05:32] <[Chameleon] > transparentdream: what printer?
[05:32] <marcin_ant> durt, what kind of player you use?
[05:32] <[Chameleon] > transparentdream: manufacturer/model ?
[05:32] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, anyway please don't leave us once you install windows
[05:32] <durt> mplayer, totem-xine, vlc, ive tried alot of stuff
[05:32] <dreamie> username is not in the sudoers file. how do i fix this?
[05:33] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, I really would like to know if you will have internet on your second machine :)
[05:33] <tritium> dreamie, add that user to the admin groujp
[05:33] <gusto5> !userguide
[05:33] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, gusto5
[05:33] <tritium> group
[05:33] <gusto5> or add the users to the sudoers list
[05:33] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, (and I really would like to hear that you don't ;) )
[05:33] <dreamie> tritium, i thought that it already was in admin group
[05:33] <dreamie> how do i add it?
[05:33] <durt> thanks marcin_ant, ill try these codecs
[05:33] <tritium> adduser <username> admin
[05:33] <blah_sameguylol> no internet on second machine
[05:34] <marcin_ant> durt, I use mplayer and totem-xine
[05:34] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, well - first install windows ;)
[05:35] <Madpilot> omp342: with Breezy in about a month, for Ubuntu
[05:35] <thrice`> omp342, tomorrow or the day after
[05:35] <thrice`> most is uploaded to breezy
[05:35] <ivan_ivan> hello there
[05:35] <thrice`> and no, it's not being released for ubuntu
[05:35] <dreamie> the group admin does not exist
[05:35] <marcin_ant> durt, you are right - totem-xine refuses to work with wmv files
[05:35] <marcin_ant> durt, but mplayer works ok
[05:35] <Cashel> is there supposed to be something spectacularly better in gnome 2.12??
[05:35] <tritium> dreamie, that sounds screwy
[05:35] <ivan_ivan> having some problems... where I can talk with someone about a problematic ubuntu installation?
[05:36] <thrice`> yes, cairo and gtk 2.8 of course
[05:36] <Cashel> here ivan_ivan , whats the problem?
[05:36] <dreamie> right Tritium
[05:36] <dreamie> what do i do about it
[05:36] <ivan_ivan> Hello there, Cashel. Here it goes:
[05:36] <blah_sameguylol> it wont let me install windows
[05:36] <Cashel> dont paste
[05:37] <ivan_ivan> I am installling a ubuntu hoary on a compac prosignia, very old indeed.
[05:37] <blah_sameguylol> i used a win95 on reboot
[05:37] <blah_sameguylol> didnt work
[05:37] <fort> can anyone help me
[05:37] <ivan_ivan> To do the installation, I had to put the debian-installer/framebuffer=off
[05:37] <ivan_ivan> option
[05:37] <fort> im trying to install ubuntu hoary from windows
[05:37] <fort> but
[05:37] <fort> i dont know how to do it with an ISO on my hard drive
[05:37] <h17m4n> !fonts
[05:37] <ubotu> fonts is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[05:37] <fort> instead of a cd
[05:37] <ivan_ivan> but, when the system reboots, the screen just freezes
[05:37] <fort> or from downloading from the internet?
[05:37] <fort> anyone help me?
[05:37] <blah_sameguylol> >.< im so confused!
[05:37] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, ehh
[05:38] <durt> marcin_ant: should i create a codecs directory in /usr/lib and put the codecs there?
[05:38] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, put your ubuntu CD to drive and reboot
[05:38] <blah_sameguylol> ok
[05:38] <ivan_ivan> I think that the problem is the framebuffer after the reboot, with base-config
[05:38] <Cashel> ivan_ivan, does it go thru the kernel stuff and freeze once it does, or does it freeze before that?
[05:38] <blah_sameguylol> live or hd install]
[05:38] <ivan_ivan> no, it freezes after the first reboot, after the kernel being loaded
[05:38] <fort> sorry to be rude, but can anyone help me?
[05:38] <dreamie> ok it wont recognize my username or password..why? how can i fix this?
[05:39] <marcin_ant> durt, nope
[05:39] <Madpilot> fort: what OS are you running right now?
[05:39] <ivan_ivan> i think just when base-conig tries to take over
[05:39] <dreamie> i can get into the computer but not into the softwares
[05:39] <fort> Windows XP
[05:39] <marcin_ant> durt, you need to put them when mplayer expects to have them
[05:39] <marcin_ant> durt, so /usr/lib/win32
[05:39] <fort> ive used the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows guide
[05:39] <fort> but
[05:39] <fort> i dont wanna re download the files
[05:39] <odat> does anyone have that really nice blue theme installed with blue trashcan  i can't seem to find it on gnome site. what is the name of it?
[05:40] <Cashel> ivan_ivan, ok, it sounds to me like your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is screwed... tried booting into safe mode?? Hopefuly they dont load gdm in safe mode.... or single user mode....
[05:40] <blah_sameguylol> UT OH
[05:40] <blah_sameguylol> NO
[05:40] <Madpilot> fort: to burn the actual ISO: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto - has XP instructions
[05:40] <blah_sameguylol> NO NO NO
[05:40] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, so it booted from CD - right?
[05:40] <blah_sameguylol> omg
[05:40] <blah_sameguylol> no it wouldnt boot
[05:40] <blah_sameguylol> nothig boots from cd
[05:40] <blah_sameguylol> *crys*
[05:40] <fort> nah the problem is i dont have a cd burner :<
[05:40] <ivan_ivan> single use is ok, and i have played with some xorg configurations. but even vesa or vga does not work!
[05:40] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, BIOS
[05:40] <blah_sameguylol> ok ill restart and enter bios
[05:40] <odat> does anyone have that really nice blue theme installed with blue trashcan  i can't seem to find it on gnome site. what is the name of it?
[05:41] <ivan_ivan> and if base-config does not continues, the installation is not complete and I have to install all the packages byt hand...
[05:41] <tritium> odat, no need to repeat
[05:41] <Madpilot> fort: you can order free CDs from Ubuntu...
[05:41] <blah_sameguylol> k bios open
[05:41] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, but anyway I'm curious how you installed ubuntu when your system doesn;t boot from cd :) ?
[05:41] <blah_sameguylol> it booted from cd wen i was on window
[05:41] <hermit> fuck what a useless channel
[05:41] <blah_sameguylol> windows*
[05:41] <Cashel> ivan_ivan, thats what I'd try anyways... boot into sing user or whatever, then cd /etc/init.d  then  rm gdm ... then reboot ... you should have a regular console after that.. then you'll need to tinker with xorg.conf until you can startx succesfuly....
[05:41] <blah_sameguylol> ok how do i config it to start
[05:41] <Cashel> ohhh
[05:41] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, go to advanced chipset settings
[05:41] <tritium> hermit, please be polite
[05:41] <kevogod> hermit, And what was your useless question?
[05:42] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, and you will have there something like 'first boot device' etc.
[05:42] <hermit> oh that's what it takes to get attention
[05:42] <Cashel> so you havent finished installing yet or are you talking about when you run base-config by hand?
[05:42] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, I don't know your bios so I need to guess
[05:42] <durt> i seems i already have those codecs installed :(
[05:42] <ivan_ivan> well, i can change that also at /etc/X11/default-display-manager... ok, thanks. let me see what happens...
[05:42] <ivan_ivan> thank you!
[05:42] <hermit> ~/.Xdefaults and ~/.Xresources will not read
[05:42] <fort> Madpilot: is there anyway to install from an iso on your hard drive?
[05:42] <hermit> does ubuntu use some other name
[05:42] <blah_sameguylol> boot sequence?
[05:42] <hermit> i have urxvt settings in those files and they aren't loading when x starts
[05:42] <animepunkw> nalioth , i tryied installing the gstreamer0.8-mad, akode-mpeg, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg, gstreamer0.8-plugins, libmad0 packages and also set xmms to use the output plugin to libesdout.so.. still same thing
[05:43] <tritium> hermit, you need to be polite in this channel please
[05:43] <hermit> i am
[05:43] <tritium> hermit, calling us useless is hardly polite
[05:43] <nalioth> animepunkw: then you need to get with some of these sound gurus in here
[05:43] <blah_sameguylol> is that it
[05:43] <odat> anyone know how to put the traskcan back on the desktop?
[05:43] <DrTiger> Hi! is there a program for ubuntu that can download a website for offline browsing?
[05:43] <blah_sameguylol> the boot sequence
[05:43] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, could be
[05:43] <Madpilot> fort: I have no idea
[05:44] <hermit> this channel is like 99% questions
[05:44] <durt> i get this error when i play a wmv in mplayer: "Too many video packets in the buffer: (1452 in 8396048 bytes)."
[05:44] <nerdy2> DrTiger, see wget or curl
[05:44] <hermit> everything from legitimate queries to moron questions
[05:44] <DrTiger> I mean recursively
[05:44] <hermit> and nary an answer to be found
[05:44] <blah_sameguylol> k set it to, CDROM,C,A, blah blah
[05:44] <hermit> it's just frustrating
[05:44] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, ok that's it
[05:44] <anomaly> any word on when Ubuntu may be releasing a hard copy book on its distro?
[05:44] <nerdy2> DrTiger, yea, wget -r will do it recursively
[05:44] <DrTiger> downloading the linked documents and java anything
[05:44] <nalioth> hermit: the more info you can give with your question, the easier it will be
[05:44] <rahotep> guys, does anybody know about "system restore"
[05:44] <nerdy2> DrTiger, man wget
[05:44] <hermit> and even after repeating myself again, after getting all eyes on me with an inflammatory remark, i still get no response
[05:44] <DrTiger> hmm but no external link?
[05:45] <blah_sameguylol> yeay ubuntu install thingy
[05:45] <nerdy2> Dr_Net, use the appropriate options
[05:45] <blah_sameguylol> now wut
[05:45] <kevogod> hermit, No, they do not exist.
[05:45] <rahotep> I've got what looks like an old "restore" that now pops up every time a boot
[05:45] <nalioth> hermit: if nobody knows about your problem, nobody will answer
[05:45] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, ok then replace CD's and install
[05:45] <h17m4n> how do I make a shortcut to a chroot program that needs 2 commands? from terminal I have to run "dchroot -d" and then "firefox32" . What would be the command for the shortcut?
[05:45] <zcat[1] > hermit: what was the question?
[05:45] <kevogod> hermit, That the answer you looking for?
[05:45] <hermit> kevogod: yeah thanks a lot man
[05:45] <hermit> i appreciate it
[05:45] <animepunkw> hmm any sound guru's in here that wanna lead a hand to a newb , when i try playing mp3's in xmms i get an error ""couldn't open audio" please check that : your soundcard is configured properly, You have the correct output plugin selected, No other program is blocking the soundcard"
[05:45] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, BTW don't you think that you could save some time just calling to your provider?
[05:45] <hermit> i hate these large channels where there's so much crap spewing by you can't hold a conversation
[05:45] <nalioth> animepunkw: have you been to wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary  ?
[05:46] <blah_sameguylol> im a kid
[05:46] <hermit> i can tell
[05:46] <transparentdream> Would someone like to help me with ym printer woes? Please PM me
[05:46] <animepunkw> nalioth yeah
[05:46] <zcat[1] > go joing #slackware. There's nobody in there usually :)
[05:46] <nalioth> hermit: if you preface your sends with someones nick, you'll get better response
[05:46] <blah_sameguylol> and i had to reboot the install woulnt wor
[05:46] <Quinthius> animepunkw: go into options, set output plugin to esd.. see if that helps
[05:46] <blah_sameguylol> work*
[05:46] <tritium> I told you to be polite already, hermit
[05:46] <animepunkw> Quinthius ok i'll try
[05:46] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, then you could know if you will have internet on second machine faster
[05:47] <blah_sameguylol> its already 500kb/sec
[05:47] <transparentdream> Would someone like to help me with my printer woes? Please PM me, and I will repeat as much as I need to in order to get help
[05:47] <kevogod> hermit, Sarcasm is not a right, it is a privilege.
[05:47] <fort> Ok here's my problem now.
[05:47] <DrTiger> thanks, wget works well it seems
[05:47] <fort> I have a 120gb HDD formatted for linux, how do i format it for windows?
[05:47] <blah_sameguylol> the windows 95 disk wont install it
[05:47] <blah_sameguylol> >.<
[05:48] <tritium> hermit, please read this for next time: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[05:48] <nalioth> fort: the windows installer will take care of it
[05:48] <animepunkw> Quinthius, i don't have an option for esd
[05:48] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, of course it wont
[05:48] <blah_sameguylol> if i use the linux install to format
[05:48] <blah_sameguylol> ok wut
[05:48] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, because win95 CD aren't bootable
[05:48] <blah_sameguylol> ......
[05:48] <transparentdream> Would someone like to help me with my printer woes? Please PM me, and I will repeat as much as I need to in order to get help
[05:48] <Quinthius> animepunkw: humm... what are the options? oss and alsa i assume... anything else?
[05:48] <fort> nalioth: i already have windows installed on my other HDD
[05:48] <blah_sameguylol> *slams head onto desk*
[05:48] <fort> but i want my other hdd formatted for it
[05:48] <fort> :/
[05:48] <h17m4n> Please, how do I make a line with 2 commands where the second one depends on the first one?
[05:48] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, try win98SE or 2000 or XP
[05:48] <LoneFreak> Can someone help, I messed ubuntu up :S
[05:48] <odat> anyone know how to put the trashcan back on the desktop?
[05:48] <zcat[1] > h17m4n: &&
[05:48] <tritium> transparentdream, you never answered me.  What has changed since it was last working?
[05:48] <blah_sameguylol> were can i steal those
[05:48] <animepunkw> Quinthius, disk sound and esound
[05:49] <Madpilot> transparentdream: flooding the channel will just get you kicked, not helped...
[05:49] <brettcar> h17m4n: commandone && commandtwo
[05:49] <kevogod> LoneFreak, What seems to be the problem?
[05:49] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, to run win95 installation you need floppy
[05:49] <Quinthius> animepunkw: esound is esd
[05:49] <Cashel> fort, mkfs.vfat /dev/####
[05:49] <Madpilot> later, all. need food.
[05:49] <tritium> blah_sameguylol, no warez discussions here please
[05:49] <animepunkw> Quinthius, ah yeah . lol sorry . no that's not working
[05:49] <blah_sameguylol> sorry
[05:49] <transparentdream> Oh im sorry,
[05:49] <transparentdream> nothing has changed
[05:49] <transparentdream> i turne doff and on the computer
[05:49] <nalioth> fort: i know how to do it if i see it, but i havent run windows in years and cant remember the names of the things
[05:49] <fort> kk
[05:49] <h17m4n> Let me check that.
[05:49] <blah_sameguylol> ok
[05:49] <Cashel> odat, you sure it ever was on the desktop? I dont think it can exist off the panel....
[05:49] <LoneFreak> Well, I was moving my menus about. And I put on in autohide at the bottom, with another one with no autohide and one of the menus gets stuck behind the other
[05:50] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, well can we do a kind of experiment?
[05:50] <LoneFreak> and neither work
[05:50] <AlinuxOS> :) hello what about GNOME 2.12, when?
[05:50] <Quinthius> animepunkw: go to system -> preferences -> multimedia selector... hit test on the output one... does it beep?
[05:50] <Cashel> at least, I havent been able to get it to..
[05:50] <zcat[1] > h17m4n: depends what you mean by 'depends on' -- && means 'if the first one worked'   | means take the output of the first one and use it as input for the next one
[05:50] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, you got ubuntu live - right?
[05:50] <odat> cashel: yes it can i had it on there before but i forget the command i did it with
[05:50] <LoneFreak> Maybe I should take a screenshot lol
[05:50] <kevogod> !tell kevogod about trash
[05:50] <blah_sameguylol> i already tried it with ubuntu live on net too still wouldnt work
[05:50] <tritium> transparentdream, make sure that when you power up the computer the printer is on (/etc/init.d/cupsys is run at boot, and needs to "see" the printer)
[05:50] <transparentdream> ok
[05:50] <h17m4n> The thing is that, I need to run dchroot -d and then Firefox32 in order to be able to use flash
[05:50] <transparentdream> let me reboot and try it them
[05:51] <tritium> transparentdream, wait
[05:51] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, have you tried live on this machine you are currently on?
[05:51] <intelikey> LoneFreak right click on the one menu and unlock it then move it elsewhere.
[05:51] <blah_sameguylol> no
[05:51] <blah_sameguylol> should i
[05:51] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, you could
[05:51] <kevogod> odat, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/faqsection_view?section=Using%20Ubuntu
[05:51] <blah_sameguylol> ill do it soon as i get this other problem taken care of
[05:51] <animepunkw> Quinthius, nope , failed to construct test piplinefor 'ESD enlightnment Sound Daeman'
[05:51] <h17m4n> dchroot -d, I believe, makes the terminal thing that /chroot/ is actually /, and runs stuff from there
[05:51] <kevogod> odat, Read the second part of that. It talks about the Trashcan on the desktop.
[05:52] <h17m4n> think*
[05:52] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, then you will know if your problems with internet on second machine are because ubuntu is not configured properly
[05:52] <Quinthius> animepunkw: ok... check one more thing... system -> pref -> sound ... is "start sound server" checked?
[05:52] <brettcar> h17m4n: If dchroot is anything like the regular chroot you can just append the full chrooted path to firefox after it.
[05:52] <kevogod> odat, "If you want to turn some of the special desktop icons back on, run Applications > System Tools > Configuration Editor, navigate to /apps/nautilus/general, and choose the icons you want to appear."
[05:52] <dreamie> why am i getting <username> is not the sudoers file? when i just logged into it
[05:52] <odat> kevogod: ok
[05:52] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, or because your provider blocks network card on second machine
[05:52] <blah_sameguylol> thats more than likly it because they had to register our ip i think
[05:52] <animepunkw> Quinthius, yes it is
[05:52] <Cashel> !tell cashel about trash
[05:52] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, each network card has it's unique identificator called MAC
[05:53] <blah_sameguylol> they did sumtin
[05:53] <kevogod> Cashel: Sorry, that does not work.
[05:53] <blah_sameguylol> because our old modem didnt work on this new comp
[05:53] <blah_sameguylol> and it was same isp
[05:53] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, and a s I said earlier
[05:53] <Cashel> so I see :)
[05:53] <Quinthius> animepunkw: ahh... i dunno what else to do but it sounds like a problem with drivers for your card or something...
[05:53] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, propably this is the reason why you don't have internet on your second machine
[05:53] <blah_sameguylol> ok a completely legal version of windows 98 has been but in and im rebooting
[05:53] <blah_sameguylol> put*
[05:54] <blah_sameguylol> will it boot on start?
[05:54] <h17m4n> Cool. Last time I tried that it actually run the 64 bit version of Firefox
[05:54] <h17m4n> Thx man
[05:54] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, of course I'm not sure - but I'll give 90%
[05:54] <marcin_ant> blah_sameguylol, it should
[05:54] <dreamie> anyone caught my question?
[05:54] <h17m4n> I don't think windows 98 will be able to format the linux partition
[05:54] <blah_sameguylol> it didnt, maybe cuz it wasnt 100% legal, not sure
[05:54] <hermit> dreamie: nope, too busy
[05:54] <hermit> too much banter
[05:54] <nalioth> dreamie: wait a few minutes tween asking. dont nag
[05:55] <blah_sameguylol> ok with my windows95. can a floppy work
[05:55] <nalioth> hermit
[05:55] <blah_sameguylol> o shit
[05:55] <blah_sameguylol> g2g
[05:55] <intelikey> dreamie if you add user accounts and want them to also have sudoer rights you will have to add them to /etc/sudoers   read up on it.
[05:55] <blah_sameguylol> sorry
[05:55] <animepunkw> Quinthius, yikes , maybe i'll try restarting since i just installed those packages , thanks for the help tho
[05:55] <h17m4n> lol
[05:55] <h17m4n> mom caught him awake
[05:55] <marcin_ant> have you got floppy drives on both machines?
[05:55] <odat> kevogod: thanx man apprieciate it
[05:56] <intelikey> dreamie the account that you installed ub with should have sudoers rights already.
[05:56] <kevogod> odat, No problem.
[05:56] <tritium> dreamie, you should also have an admin group
[05:56] <kevogod> Why does helping people feel so fulfilling?
[05:56] <h17m4n> brettcar, what about fonts? do I have to install them into the chroot path too?
[05:56] <nalioth> dreamie: intelikey is trying to help you
[05:56] <intelikey> kevo it does ?
[05:56] <kevogod> I'm evil at heart, yet it feels good.
[05:57] <hx10_> Ok i took a screenshot, but i couldn't reaccess this window
[05:57] <odat> kevogod: cuz everyone knows its the right thing to do
[05:57] <odat> lol
[05:57] <hx10_> http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5438/screenshot8na.png
[05:57] <hx10_> the menus are broke, and i dunno howto fix them
[05:57] <odat> anyway i can't for the life of me track down that one theme i got from art.gnome no more than three days ago  i don't know where it went
[05:58] <kevogod> hx10_, That is interesting, what were you doing before this happened?
[05:58] <hx10_> Well, I was just moving them around
[05:58] <intelikey> hx10 did you try right click on the menu and unlock it so you can move it ?
[05:58] <hx10_> I can't right click on them
[05:58] <hx10_> I can't move the, do anything
[05:58] <hx10_> them*
[05:59] <kevogod> hx10_, Have you restarted X or rebooted?
[05:59] <h17m4n> maybe restartx or gnome will fix that?
[05:59] <ian> is it possible to get the MySQL Embedded Server in an ubuntu package?
[05:59] <Cashel> odat, locate is your friend
[05:59] <hx10_> I've rebooted, it didn't work
[05:59] <tritium> hey thoreauputic
[05:59] <kevogod> odat, Don't listen to him. Beagle is your friend... but not in Hoary.
[05:59] <odat> cashel: i am on another computer that i installed gnome on so it was never on this system to begin with
[05:59] <kevogod> Cashel, :-)
[06:00] <thoreauputic> hi tritium :)
[06:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> I installed beagle but I don't know where it is
[06:00] <odat> what is beagle?
[06:00] <hx10_> Anyway to access the menu edtior from terminal?
[06:00] <marcin_ant> Carpe_Libertatem, run beagled from console
[06:00] <intelikey> hx10_ you can logout [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]  login to that console and do a rm .gnome* to reset your desktop.  then logout and [alt] +[f7]  back to the gui
[06:01] <marcin_ant> Carpe_Libertatem, and best with 'run program'
[06:01] <intelikey> hx10_ you can logout [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]  login to that console and do a "rm -rf .gnome*" to reset your desktop.  then logout and [alt] +[f7]  back to the gui
[06:01] <zcat[1] > zcat@fluffy:~$ apt-cache search beagle
[06:01] <zcat[1] > zcat@fluffy:~$
[06:01] <zcat[1] > What is beagle?
[06:01] <hx10_> ok but that would mean i have no gui?
[06:01] <intelikey> no
[06:01] <Carpe_Libertatem> Erors
[06:01] <noirequus> zcat[1] : its like "Spotlight" on tiger osx
[06:02] <anomaly> supposedly a search engine for linux
[06:02] <animepunkw> boo xmms is still not working :(
[06:02] <intelikey> all it will do is reset the desktop settings hx10_
[06:02] <candlelight> anyone in ubuntu security team?
[06:02] <haja> I am having problems installing mods for ut2004. Can anyone give me a hand?
[06:02] <hx10_> ok
[06:02] <evader> OK to move to breezy yet????
[06:02] <evader> when is the official release?
[06:02] <hx10_> Well i will try
[06:02] <setite> maybe ndiswrapper will work in breezy?
[06:02] <hx10_> don't suppose it can get anyworse
[06:02] <anomaly> evader I am hearing oct still
[06:02] <setite> i cant work it
[06:02] <dreamie> ok
[06:02] <setite> it errors
[06:03] <evader> anomaly: ok thanks
[06:03] <dreamie> but how do i get into the sudoers file
[06:03] <evader> but generally is it ok to move to Breezy now??
[06:03] <hx10_> oh great, the F1 key don't work
[06:03] <dreamie> /etc/sudoers what?
[06:03] <hermit> ndiswrapper works in hoary
[06:03] <evader> dreamie: vi /etc/sudoers
[06:03] <tritium> dreamie, sudo visudo
[06:03] <Cashel> ok NOW I'm mad.... I installed both qt3-designer and glade.... I know *ONE* of them had the option for outputting in perl.... neither seem to tho.... what gives? help! beg! plead! whine!
[06:03] <hermit> or whorey as i like to call it
[06:03] <Rhaymar> como configuro un apple ubuntu touchpad
[06:04] <tritium> Rhaymar, #ubuntu-es por favor
[06:04] <haja> I did /ucc-bin umodunpack -x file.ut2mod -nohomedir and then /ucc-bin umodunpack -l file.ut2mod -nohomedir there is a .sh file in the package but I don't know how to get to it...
[06:04] <dreamie> how do i get out of VI
[06:04] <dreamie> vi
[06:04] <kevogod> I can't for the life of me get my VPN connection working.
[06:04] <tritium> :wq
[06:04] <ian> Rhaymar: /j #ubuntu-es
[06:04] <Rhaymar> tritium : no usuarios
[06:04] <odat> evader i'm on breezy now
[06:04] <tritium> dreamie, you really don't have an admin group?
[06:05] <Rhaymar> no contestan nadies
[06:05] <Cashel> :q!  ... if he doesnt know how to get out, he probably didnt know how to edit the file either, best not to write :P
[06:05] <Quinthius> dreamie: type :wq to save & quit, :q! to quit and not save, :q to just quit if no changes have been made
[06:05] <tritium> Rhaymar, lo siento.
[06:05] <hx10_> trust me to get myself stuck lol
[06:05] <setite> anyone know why ndiswrapper is giving me an operation not permitted
[06:05] <intelikey> Cashel ....
[06:05] <hx10_> I can't do anything but run from terminal and loose my windows
[06:05] <animepunkw> well xine seems to be the only player that will play mp3's
[06:05] <Cashel> intelikey ....
[06:06] <setite> it gives me operation not permitted in or out of sudo and with su
[06:06] <Quinthius> animepunkw: can you look in xine options and see what audio output it is using?
[06:06] <setite> animepunkw: i used BMP
[06:06] <setite> use*
[06:06] <dreamie> ok i dont know if i had an admin group
[06:06] <evader> is Rhythmbox fixed in Breezy now???
[06:06] <dreamie> all i know is that the sudo commands are not working for me because it saids user is not in sudoers file
[06:06] <durt> does windows media player run well in wine?
[06:06] <MrSt0ne> hey
[06:06] <evader> durt: that is so evil to say
[06:06] <Carpe_Libertatem> durt: I highly doubt it.
[06:06] <intelikey> hx10_ what ?
[06:06] <kevogod> I prefer nano.
[06:06] <dreamie> do i just do vi /etc/sudoers and add my username?
[06:06] <tritium> dreamie, cat /etc/group | grep admin
[06:07] <jmhodges> anyone know how to get the menu bar to appear in gvim by default? i've somehow lost mine
[06:07] <durt> i need to watch my wmvs though!
[06:07] <setite> omg the chaos in here
[06:07] <thoreauputic> dreamie: no, use the visudo command
[06:07] <intelikey> dreamie no man sudoers  first.
[06:07] <evader> apt-get install w32codecs
[06:07] <hermit> setite: yeah
[06:07] <caonex> I have just installed my broadcom wireless nic; however, it does not seem to get a inet 4 address, what can I do?
[06:07] <tritium> dreamie, first try adding your user to the admin group.
[06:07] <MrSt0ne> i tried to upgrade to breezy, but it screwed up my sound and everything, I need help. Is there a way to rollback to hoary
[06:07] <setite> caonex: is your card working? how.. i cant get my broadcom working
[06:07] <HrdwrBoB> MrSt0ne: no
[06:07] <dreamie> lpadom:x:107:username
[06:07] <haja> Can someone give me a hand with installing Ut2004 mods...?
[06:07] <caonex> setite yes it seems to be working
[06:07] <durt> i have all the codecs, but the wmvs at videosz.com dont play like the other wmvs i have
[06:08] <tritium> dreamie, that's it?  Not a second line?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: not without much pain and frustration
[06:08] <caonex> setite i can scan the SSIDs
[06:08] <setite> caonex: what did oyu do... please help me.. i cant get it to work at all
[06:08] <dreamie> tritium, no second line
[06:08] <Cashel> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate  for me.. not that I need it..
[06:08] <tritium> dreamie, is this warty?
[06:08] <dreamie> warty?
[06:08] <dreamie> what is warty?
[06:08] <caonex> i compiled ndiswrapper
[06:08] <setite> caonex: i cant get the drver working... i installed the bcmwl5.inf
[06:08] <tritium> dreamie, the first ubuntu release
[06:08] <caonex> ndiswrapper.sf.net
[06:08] <setite> you compiled it
[06:08] <setite> ok that must be it... the ubuntu one is shit?
[06:09] <kevogod> setite, Language, please.
[06:09] <dreamie> thoreauputic, the visudo command doesnt work because it saids username is not in sudoers file
[06:09] <setite> ok chit
[06:09] <dreamie> tritium no
[06:09] <caonex> setite what do you mean?
[06:09] <thoreauputic> dreamie: right, catch 22
[06:09] <tritium> dreamie, by default, only the first user that you setup has sudo priveleges
[06:09] <thoreauputic> dreamie: you might have to boot in recovery mode to get a root prompt
[06:09] <setite> caonex: i have the ubuntu repo ndiswrapper installed.. and the module wont load on start.. errors out
[06:10] <dreamie> thoreauputic, i have root access
[06:10] <durt> ndiswrapper -m and put ndiswrapper in /etc/modules
[06:10] <thoreauputic> dreamie: then become root and run visudo
[06:10] <intelikey> dreamie you will have to use the user account that you installed ub with  it is the admin account...
[06:10] <setite> ive already done that i believe
[06:10] <caonex> setite you may need to compile it
[06:10] <setite> i can try again though
[06:10] <dreamie> oh thats my problem
[06:10] <dreamie> because i have root
[06:10] <MrSt0ne> thoreauputic: so what would you suggest?
[06:10] <setite> i get operation not permitted on sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
 thoreauputic, i have root access <--- or do it as root...
[06:11] <dreamie> where in sudoers do i add my username?
[06:11] <caonex> setite hmm...is the user you are using in the /etc/sudoers file?
[06:11] <setite> setite@ubuntu:~$ ndiswrapper -m
[06:11] <setite> modprobe config already contains alias directive
[06:11] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: well, Breezy is still in development - if it breaks "you get to keep the pieces"
[06:11] <setite> it should be.. everythign else works fine in sudo
[06:11] <intelikey> dreamie did you "man sudoers" ?
[06:11] <setite> i only have one user
[06:11] <MrSt0ne> thoreauputic: should i just reinstall everything?
[06:11] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: what are the problems?
[06:11] <durt> have the lights on your card ever come on?
[06:12] <setite> and "ndiswrapper" is at the end of my modules
[06:12] <animepunkw> Quinthius, can't find where it says it , only thing i could find said the audio driver was default
[06:13] <MrSt0ne> thoreauputic: I have no sound, i configured it yesterday and it worked like a charm. I just installed Ubuntu saturday, and im a semi linux noob
[06:13] <TokenBad> man problems with azureus all over the place it seems
[06:13] <animepunkw> setite , you use bmp ?
[06:13] <caonex> i have no idea, what could be setite
[06:13] <setite> animepunkw: yes beep media player
[06:14] <setite> caonex: im adding the ndis repo.. ill try that
[06:14] <thoreauputic> MrStone: you might want to write a question to the ubuntu-users mailing list -but if sound was working before, it should be possible to restore that condition
[06:14] <durt> setite: ubuntu might have tried to load a module that interfers with ndiswrapper
[06:14] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: have you tried running alsamixer to see if any channels need unmuting?
[06:14] <durt> anybody know how to list the loaded modules?
[06:14] <caonex> setite, sorry
[06:14] <animepunkw> Setite, can i apt-get that ?
[06:14] <setite> well i sorta have two drivers installed
[06:14] <MrSt0ne> Thoreauputic: no i havent. How would i do that? terminal: alsamixer?
[06:15] <intelikey> durt like lsmod  maybe ?
[06:15] <TokenBad> anyone know why azureus would start downloading a file to the dir you say...get so much of it downloaded...and then come up saying that the file or dir don't exist?
[06:15] <TokenBad> even though it does
[06:15] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: in aterminal, type alsamixer
[06:15] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: use "M" to mute/unmute
[06:16] <TokenBad> and it keeps trying to save to a dir I didn't tell it to save to
[06:16] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: arrow keys to change levels
[06:16] <arlington> hey guys. can i get the macromedia plugin for FF through synaptic/kynaptic?
[06:16] <MrSt0ne> thoreauputic: your a genious
[06:16] <odat> geez does anyone know where the entire gnome themes went on their site??
[06:16] <caonex> setite did you restart?
[06:16] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: ha - no I just know what sometimes works :)
[06:17] <arlington> (btw I'm running Kubuntu. but the roomd a little dry atm. )
[06:17] <MrSt0ne> thoreauputic: would you mind helping me with one more thing?
[06:17] <tritium> arlington, yes, make sure you have universe and multiverse repos enabled
[06:17] <arlington> ok
[06:17] <MrSt0ne> thoreauputic: and by one more i mean a few more
[06:17] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: if I can - remeber there are 330 people here ;)
[06:17] <arlington> will it also work if I just install it through FF when I get to a site that requires it?
[06:18] <tritium> arlington, better to install an ubuntu package
[06:18] <setite> ok im removing ndiswrapper now
[06:18] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: just ask and if someone can help they will
[06:18] <arlington> ok np
[06:18] <durt> setite: run "lsmod" and if you see anything related to broadcom or anything, "rmmod" it
[06:18] <MrSt0ne> thoreauputic: ok thank you very much
[06:18] <TokenBad> anyone know about that?
[06:19] <setite> ok because i installed two drivers i think
[06:19] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: so fire away :)
[06:19] <setite> that might be the issue
[06:19] <setite> i just uninstalled ndiswrapper
[06:20] <arlington> ok no luck so far finding the option to change to Universal/Multiverse Repos
[06:20] <TokenBad> anyone tell me whats up with azureus not working?
[06:20] <MrSt0ne> when i type in my sudo apt-get update, at the end theres a string that says "Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fHoary%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_hoary_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:20] <tritium> arlington, you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list if you're comfortable doing that
[06:20] <caonex> durt is it suppose to be a little slower, the connection because we are emulating windows to run those drivers?
[06:21] <aru> someone who knows audacity, msg me please :)
[06:21] <arlington> well I'm brand new but I don't mind giving it a try
[06:21] <MrSt0ne> and it tells me to run sudo apt-get update
[06:21] <tritium> arlington, what are you using now?  synaptic?
[06:21] <MrSt0ne> and when i do that it says the same thing (at the end of update)
[06:22] <arlington> yes
[06:22] <arlington> I can use either or though
[06:22] <tritium> up to you
[06:22] <arlington> synaptic's fine for now
[06:22] <MrSt0ne> what im asking: should i be worried that it says that?
[06:23] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # in front of the cdrom line, then update again
[06:23] <durt> what is it caonex?
[06:23] <setite> haha whats a yenta_socket
[06:23] <TokenBad> I have a couple problems in azureus..anyone help?
[06:23] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: or just remove that line
[06:23] <aru> on audacity I cant change my audio in, the box is blank
[06:23] <arlington> Tritium?
[06:24] <setite> hey i added the ndiswrapper repo
[06:24] <thoreauputic> arlington: /whois says tritium is away
[06:24] <setite> why is it not coming up
[06:24] <arlington> ok
[06:24] <bob2> TokenBad: way better to just ask your quetion
[06:24] <setite> is it purely source?
[06:24] <TokenBad> I did
[06:24] <bob2> setite: there's no "ndiswrapper repo"
[06:24] <MrSt0ne> thoreauputic: your 2 for 2
[06:24] <TokenBad> it still didn't get answered
[06:24] <MrSt0ne> thoreauputic: thank you very much
[06:24] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: :)
[06:24] <setite> bob there was a repo line at the site
[06:24] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: yw
[06:24] <bob2> setite: "the site"?
[06:25] <bob2> can you be more vague?
[06:25] <arlington> I was being helped by him/her to get the macromedia plugin through synaptic
[06:25] <setite> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/
[06:25] <TokenBad> anyone know why azureus would start downloading a file to the dir you say...get so much of it downloaded...and then come up saying that the file or dir don't exist?
[06:25] <bob2> setite: so, ignore that completely
[06:25] <setite> the site for the ndiswrapper.. i thought that was kinda a given
[06:25] <TokenBad> even though it does
[06:25] <bob2> setite: since you're using ubuntu, which includes ndiswrapper
[06:25] <TokenBad> and it keeps trying to save to a dir I didn't tell it to save to
[06:25] <bob2> setite: no, it's not a given, it's a mistake
[06:25] <MrSt0ne> one more thing and then i'll leave you guys alone for the night
[06:25] <setite> that one wont work
[06:25] <bob2> setite: "wont work" is not a description of a problem
[06:25] <arlington> forgive my ignorance but what is the method to do a private message?
[06:26] <setite> bob2: i cant get the ndiswrapper to load
[06:26] <kevogod> arlington, type /msg <nick> <message>
[06:26] <thoreauputic> arlington: /query or /msg - but ask first
[06:26] <bob2> setite: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:26] <arlington> or at least to pop up on a persons screen
[06:26] <setite> and a sudo modprobe ndiswrapper fails due to operation bot permitted
[06:26] <setite> not*
[06:26] <arlington> ok thanks
[06:26] <bob2> setite: perhaps it'd be eaiser if you mentioned that to begin with
[06:26] <bob2> instead of us having to talk for 5 minutes before you tell me what the problem is
[06:27] <TokenBad> bob2, thats the problem I am having
[06:27] <setite> im not a super noob.. i used that tutorial and the sudo modprobe failed
[06:27] <bob2> TokenBad: what did the azureus people say?
[06:27] <durt> setite use "sudo su"
[06:27] <bob2> setite: so, when asking for help and a step failed, you need to mention it
[06:27] <TokenBad> well had it working before..so now not sure whats going on
[06:27] <bob2> durt: how will that help?
[06:27] <setite> bob2:  i said it earlier... thought you caught it
[06:27] <MrSt0ne> I used to have my samba set up so that i can network with my windows system, but now its not there
[06:27] <TokenBad> all I did was reinstall ubuntu
[06:27] <aj_calrissian> ok one more stupid question. I registered my nick but forgot my password. how do I get that back?
[06:27] <durt> that sometimes works...
[06:27] <TokenBad> and did the stuff same as before
[06:28] <bob2> why on earth would you reinstall?
[06:28] <MrSt0ne> and also before, i had problems with my windows system getting into my linux
[06:28] <bob2> setite: go ask on the ndiswrapper list, I suspect that error means your hardware is not supported by ndiswrapper
[06:28] <h17m4n> !fonts
[06:28] <ubotu> from memory, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[06:28] <MrSt0ne> it would ask my windows for a user name and a password
[06:28] <MrSt0ne> and i have no idea what to put into it
[06:28] <bob2> MrSt0ne: so tell it to share things anonymously
[06:28] <kevogod> aj_calrissian, I believe you will have to wait 60 days when it drops.
[06:28] <thoreauputic> !tell MrSt0ne about samba
[06:29] <bob2> aj_calrissian: there's nothing on the freenode.net faq?
[06:29] <MrSt0ne> thoreauputic: thanks agian
[06:29] <TokenBad> bob2 just felt like it
[06:29] <setite> bob2: i get this everytime.. with su, sudo, sudo su and none
[06:29] <MrSt0ne> thoreauputic: your a lifesaver
[06:29] <setite> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:29] <bob2> setite: yes, I know
[06:29] <bob2> setite: do what I suggsted above
[06:30] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: I just use the bot to answer for me ;-)
[06:30] <setite> well if thats the case i suppose i will be getting linuxant or saying bugger all....
[06:30] <MrSt0ne> thoreauputic: haha that'll do it
[06:30] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: I actually don't use samba here (nfs instead)
[06:30] <MrSt0ne> thoreauputic: one more thing, how do you make your messages red like that?
[06:30] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: your client does that
[06:31] <bob2> setite: or you could just stop talking and actually go ask the ndiswrapper people
[06:31] <bob2> setite: perhaps all you need is a newer version
[06:31] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: presumably xchat - it highlights on your nick
[06:31] <aj_calrissian> I never thought to look on the freenode.net FAQ
[06:31] <f_newton> MrSt0ne, if they are addressed to you by name they show up red in your xchat window
[06:31] <MrSt0ne> f_newton: ok thank you
[06:32] <MrSt0ne> thoreauputic: good thing it has it, i probaly wouldnt have been helped
[06:32] <syx>  howdy, can anyone tell me what the system stats thing on the right of this is - http://distrowatch.com/images/screenshots/arabian-0.6-beta4.png - I would love to use it on my ubuntu laptop.
[06:32] <thoreauputic> MrSt0ne: you can configure colours/ beeps etc in settings
[06:32] <f_newton> yeah it says forbidden no permission to enter server
[06:33] <syx> oh
[06:33] <syx> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050905#1
[06:33] <syx> its there somwhere
[06:33] <syx> halfway down
[06:33] <Hoxzer> :E
[06:33] <setite> bob2: thats what im trying to do now.. how do i do that.. and what is the repo line at the ndiswrapper.sf.net for
[06:34] <bob2> apparently superkaramba
[06:34] <Hoxzer> Np: ac/Dc 06 -Rock Your Heart Out.mp3 [4:07]
[06:34] <bob2> as the screenshot says
[06:34] <bob2> Hoxzer: please turn that off
[06:34] <bob2> setite: no, ask the ndiswrapper people, first
[06:34] <Hoxzer> :D
[06:34] <Hoxzer> wrong channel to sing songs
[06:35] <bob2> wrong channel to have silly scripts running in
[06:35] <Hoxzer> I dont have script
[06:35] <syx> thannks
[06:35] <Hoxzer> I only use copy now playing and write np before it
[06:36] <thoreauputic> !msg
[06:36] <ubotu> please don't /msg people or start a personal message/ dcc chat without asking first in channel. People might be busy, and you have a better chance of an answer in the channel. Don't assume a particular user will be able to help you.
[06:37] <aru> in audacity I cannt change from mic to line in for recording device... if anyone has any ideas feel free to pinch my inner thigh
[06:37] <TokenBad> ok
[06:37] <TokenBad> got the error its giving
[06:37] <TokenBad> resume data save error fails
[06:37] <intelikey> aru aumix ?
[06:37] <synd> is ext3 the best for linux?
[06:38] <f_newton> I think so
[06:38] <holycow> its kinda the wrong question
[06:38] <f_newton> but there are many choices
[06:38] <aru> intelikey: ?
[06:38] <graeme> synd, it's a matter of taste, xfs is 'better' though.
[06:38] <holycow> it really should read: is ext3 the best choice for my needs
[06:38] <holycow> or in case, your needs
[06:38] <holycow> for me, i use reiser exclusively
[06:38] <TokenBad> bob2 does azureus have a irc channel for help?
[06:38] <synd> im talking about stability.
[06:39] <synd> stability is key.
[06:39] <f_newton> I think better should be defined in this case
[06:39] <holycow> synd thats a terrible question too
[06:39] <synd> i dont give a shit
[06:39] <graeme> synd are you upgrading or supporting an older system?
[06:39] <holycow> if a file system isn't stable, its not production ready, and it's not released
[06:39] <synd> whats the best for stability?
[06:39] <holycow> a file system CANNOT be unstable
[06:39] <synd> ive read that reiser is instable.
[06:39] <f_newton> holycow yes it can be and many have been
[06:39] <holycow> i.e. all filesystems are stable that are production ready
[06:39] <synd> and various others.
[06:39] <f_newton> reiser is not my first choice
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> ive herd of many people with problems with reiserfs.. I just use ext3
[06:40] <f_newton>  I prefer ext3 (ext2 with journaling) but Ive been told that xfs is also fairly good
[06:40] <holycow> i've read that too, but its just wrong
[06:40] <synd> ok thanks.
[06:40] <synd> peace kids
[06:40] <f_newton> basically it has to do with your partition and file size needs
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> and if you access a lot of little files, or a few BIG files.. ect.
[06:40] <f_newton> yes
[06:41] <f_newton> for almost every user they will find ext3 the best choice
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> so for general ussage - buy most 'common' people - i'd say stick with ext3
[06:41] <f_newton> but there are examples where xfs is necessary
[06:41] <thoreauputic> OK people - we don't really need a file system war - whatever works for you
[06:41] <graeme> f_newton, when is xfs neccessary, what does it do better?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> i have an add onfor  Windows XP that lets me use ext3 with it. :P
[06:41] <f_newton> thoreauputic, the man asked a reasonable question and should get reasonable answers
[06:42] <efunk> i'm new to linux, very new, and this is going to sound very dumb to most of you
[06:42] <efunk> but i have no idea how to install an rpm
[06:42] <f_newton> it handles really large volumes better
[06:42] <bob2> efunk: you don't, in general
[06:42] <bob2> efunk: what is it?
[06:42] <efunk> in general
[06:42] <holycow> efunk, its only a dumb question if you don't listen to the answers :)
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> efunk,  - ubuntu is not an rpm based disrto.
[06:42] <durt> rpms are fine
[06:42] <durt> just use alien
[06:42] <thoreauputic> f_newton: agreed - just that I've seen fs discussions turn into off-topic arguments :)
[06:42] <holycow> efunk, you can generally convert rpms to deb files with alien
[06:42] <bob2> in the sense that amputation if you have gangrene is "fine"
[06:43] <BadaBing> hello everyone
[06:43] <efunk> alright, so i need to get alien
[06:43] <f_newton> yeah well this room does happen to get populated by debian dweebs
[06:43] <bob2> efunk: in general, you don't, because ubuntu has basically everything you could want
[06:43] <graeme> efunk, it's often easier to find the same package as a deb though.
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> and safer
[06:43] <bob2> efunk: if it's a proprietary stuff that only comes as an rpm, tho, you can use alien
[06:43] <bob2> efunk: what specific case are you asking about?
[06:43] <setite> bob2: do you know how to remove drivers installed with ndiswrapper
[06:43] <efunk> well limewire for instance, or, well yeah, limewire is mainly what i want unless you guys can give me a better p2p for ubuntu
[06:43] <setite> bob2: or can i leave the two on that i have so far
[06:43] <f_newton> alien -d wont work with all rpms
[06:43] <bob2> setite: don't know
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> there is a summary of the various p2p clients and networks - on the ubuntu wikis
[06:44] <f_newton> while it will produce a .deb file it may not function
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Limewire is just one of many gnutella clients.
[06:44] <efunk> what would you guys recommend as a limewire subsitute
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Limewire also requires the offical sun java installed last i looked.
[06:44] <efunk> substitute*
[06:44] <f_newton> it is best to stick with adding from the official repos
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> efunk,  depoends on yoru needs - check the wiki and see what suits you.
[06:45] <efunk> do i just type in p2p in the search?
[06:45] <holycow> no read the wiki first
[06:45] <holycow> then search
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt read the wiki. :P
[06:45] <TokenBad> anyone know where I can get help with azureus?
[06:45] <holycow> what help do you need TokenBad ?
[06:45] <ugo> the most decent p2p client i know is edonkey
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> azureus --> yet another p2p client  ?
[06:46] <thoreauputic> ----> pizza
[06:46] <TokenBad> its giving errors after downloading only a little of a file
[06:46] <TokenBad> know its not space
[06:46] <TokenBad> have 18 gigs free
[06:46] <intelikey>  ------<    ooops
[06:46] <holycow> thats an issue for the auzerous channels and their support board TokenBad
[06:46] <durt> efunk: you dont need the rpm, you can use the "other" download of limwire
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> one good thing about all the different p2p clients.. if one fails.. try another.
[06:46] <TokenBad> thats why I asked about somewhere to get help
[06:46] <holycow> its a java app, its not even packaged for ubuntu
[06:47] <efunk> other download of limewire?
[06:47] <holycow> TokenBad, go to their website, look for forums, mail support, or references to irc channels
[06:47] <holycow> its quite a popular torrent client, there has to be other users with your error message
[06:47] <TokenBad> don't see any..thats why asked here
[06:47] <durt> on the download page click the "other" buttion
[06:47] <holycow> alternatively don't forget to google your error message
[06:47] <setite> bob2: thanks for your help... im gonna give up.. too much bs to work through
[06:48] <bob2> setite: ok
[06:48] <durt> setite: what do you want to do?
[06:48] <CrashBox> hey all, do u all know if flash is upported on the amd64 bit version of ubuntu or kubuntu?
[06:48] <Acktifujit> nope
[06:48] <bob2> ask Adobe to make an amd64 plugin
[06:48] <bob2> aka no
[06:49] <f_newton> adobe?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> CrashBox,  no flash on 64bit disrto at this time that i know of.
[06:49] <setite> well from what i gather i need to compile ndiswrapper because my errors are due to ndiswrapper being built for a different kernel
[06:49] <f_newton> macromedia makes flash
[06:49] <bob2> doesn't adobe own macromedia?
[06:49] <CrashBox> lol,f_newton, thats what i was thinking
[06:49] <holycow> TokenBad, i didn't even google and it turns out there is a #azureus channel
[06:49] <kevogod> bob2, Not quote yet.
[06:49] <killapop> f_newton: adobe aquired macromedia
[06:49] <holycow> why not try there?
[06:49] <Acktifujit> i've heard its possible to compile a 32bit version of firefox, then install the flash plugin into that...
[06:49] <bob2> setite: that's not the case, unless you installed random ndiswrapper modules from outside ubuntu
[06:49] <f_newton> setite you must use the right build of ndiswrapper for your kernel
[06:49] <bob2> Acktifujit: yes, but not trivial
[06:49] <durt> setite: download the source, extract it, "make", "make install"
[06:50] <f_newton> you can rebuild it to suit your kernel
[06:50] <setite> i used the one on the ubuntu repo... got the error
[06:50] <Kuolio> *krhm* there is the opengl-flash available for 64bit :)
[06:50] <bob2> setite: that error is not caused by a version mismatch
[06:50] <setite> seveas told me to install linux-k7... still erroring
[06:50] <f_newton> lol yeah
[06:50] <holycow> Kuolio, opengl-flash?
[06:50] <setite> ndiswrapper wiki says it is a mismatch
[06:50] <holycow> i gotta check that out :)
[06:50] <TokenBad> holycow, where did you see that?
[06:50] <bob2> setite: url?
[06:50] <setite> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/FAQ#When_I_run_.27modprobe_ndiswrapper.27.2C_I_get_.27Invalid_module_format.27_error._What_do_I_do.3F
[06:50] <f_newton> well you either have the wrong module of ndiswrapper or you will have to use an i386 vanilla kernel
[06:50] <holycow> TokenBad, dude, just do /join #azereus or whatever its spelled
[06:51] <intelikey> when in doubt /join #<what-ever-you-are-working-on>  and if you are the only one there.  then leave, or start a help channel on that app.
[06:51] <holycow> lol pretty much it indeed
[06:51] <setite> intelikey: my problem with that is the room is always dead
[06:52] <bob2> setite: that's not the error you got
[06:52] <durt> setite: do you have the kernel headers install?
[06:52] <bob2> setite: you had "permission denied"
[06:53] <f_newton> well have fun guyz... and remember debian is not a deity... just certain misguided braindeads think it is
[06:53] <bob2> wtf
[06:54] <holycow> *sigh*
[06:54] <setite> yea i know bob... i just figured that coulod be it since i got a kernel error]
[06:54] <TokenBad> holycow, thanks..will do that
[06:54] <bob2> "got a kernel error"?
[06:54] <holycow> TokenBad, no worries
[06:54] <setite> well it was somethign abotu the kernel
[06:54] <bob2> you need to remember that no one else can see your ocmputer
[06:54] <durt> setite: have you compiled ndiswrapper from source yet?
[06:54] <setite> im grabbing for straws here
[06:54] <setite> nope
[06:54] <Razor-X> hmmm, how would I create a list with Alphabetical outline items, like `A' and `B' in LaTeX?
[06:55] <durt> compile from source then
[06:55] <setite> dont know how... and im just a little ticked that the ubuntu repo one didnt work
[06:55] <bob2> Razor-X: an enumerated list with letters?
[06:55] <Razor-X> bob2: yeah
[06:55] <Razor-X> enumerate environment by default specifies numbers
[06:56] <dreamie> ok here it goes
[06:56] <durt> setite:  http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[06:56] <durt> ubuntu repos occasionally dont work btw
[06:56] <dreamie> when my computer boots i get all these errors usually of amixer commands that can't go through..anways it makes my computer beep. is there something i can do about this
[06:56] <Orborde> Awhile back I chmod'ed everything in /usr/bin to something weird. It has since caused all manner of problems, some of which I've fixed and some of which I haven
[06:57] <Orborde> t. Is there any way I can fix them en masse?
[06:57] <aru> what is Jack and how do I get it running? :)
[06:57] <TokenBad> how can I find a file on ubuntu?
[06:57] <thoreauputic> dreamie: possibly you need to paste the errors on the pastebin so people can read them
[06:57] <bob2> Orborde: reinstall every package that put binaries in /usr/bin/
[06:58] <TokenBad> or search the system for a file?
[06:58] <thoreauputic> !tell dreamie about paste
[06:58] <setite> for the record here are the two drivers ive installed so far
[06:58] <bob2> TokenBad: locate blah
[06:58] <setite> bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[06:58] <setite> netbc564        driver present, hardware present
[06:58] <bob2> TokenBad: which is updated daily
[06:58] <TokenBad> that didn't work
[06:58] <wickedpuppy> TokenBad, try find / -name "file-name" -print
[06:58] <Orborde> bob2: I don't suppose there's some cleverly efficient way of doing that?
[06:58] <setite> the bcm is what i should be using.. the netbc is the one that is buggering my i think.. its the error i see on load
[06:58] <bob2> Orborde: of course, it's one line of shell
[06:58] <aru> Places > Search for Files
[06:59] <aru> :)
[06:59] <Orborde> bob2: That being sudo rm -rf / ?
[06:59] <setite> durt: you are a god
[06:59] <bob2> Orborde: no
[06:59] <thoreauputic> aru: jack is a sound daemon and you can install it - search for jackd
[06:59] <bob2> that being be quiet while I write it for you
[06:59] <nickrud> and, when all else fails, packages.ubuntu.com ;P
[06:59] <durt> setite: what are you smoking?
[06:59] <Orborde> bob2: Genius. Thanks.
[06:59] <setite> well the modprobe took
[06:59] <aru> thoreauputic: it already is, now what?
[06:59] <setite> it was the extra driver that i needed to remove
[07:00] <durt> and the lights are on?
[07:00] <thoreauputic> aru: what are you using it for? ( what app etc ?)
[07:00] <aru> Ardour
[07:00] <setite> well im runnign through the next steps
[07:00] <bob2> Orborde: sudo apt-get --reinstall install $(dpkg -S /usr/bin/* | awk ' { print $1 } ' | sort -u | sed -e 's/:$//')
[07:01] <Orborde> bob2: Ouch. Thanks.
[07:01] <bob2> ouch?
[07:01] <thoreauputic> aru: ah - I haven't used ardour: jack has a man page, or you can find info probably on the ardour website
[07:02] <Orborde> bob2: That is long and complicated
[07:02] <thoreauputic> aru: I've only played with jack ( for midi support in Rosegarden4)
[07:02] <Orborde> bob2: And I only partially understand it.
[07:02] <bob2> Orborde: it should work
[07:02] <setite> durt: brb imma restart real quick..
[07:02] <thoreauputic> Orborde: copy paste it ;)
[07:02] <intelikey> -bash: sudo: command not found  <---- hehhe that is not an error so don't try to help me :)
[07:03] <bob2> Orborde: the only issue appears to be with symlinks
[07:03] <bob2> because they don't belong to a package
[07:03] <XhyldazhK> hi all
[07:03] <bob2> but their permissions don't matter, so you should be fine
[07:03] <nickrud> bob2, now that is a template I will save carefully, thanks
[07:04] <bob2> heh
[07:04] <XhyldazhK> my keyboard was in latin american layout, but now, in latest breezy, seems that 'la' means Laos instead of Latin America
[07:05] <intelikey> XhyldazhK try es ?
[07:05] <Orborde> bob2: Done this sort of recovery before, have you?
[07:05] <XhyldazhK> I am right now in 'es' layout, but the login screen still is in laos language
[07:05] <bob2> Orborde: no
[07:05] <bob2> just came up with it then
[07:06] <intelikey> install local-es ?
[07:06] <Razor-X> bob2: wow, you're versed in awk also?
[07:06] <Myrtti> good Morning everyone!
[07:07] <Myrtti> (emphasis on the morning, hence capital letter)
[07:07] <noirequus> Razor-X: bob2 knows everything
[07:07] <XhyldazhK> intelikey, i did that from the language selector
[07:07] <Razor-X> noirequus: meh ;)
[07:07] <Orborde> bob2: You > me
[07:07] <thoreauputic> hey Myrtti , haven't seen you much lately :)
[07:08] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: work and school :-(
[07:08] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: ah
[07:08] <aru> this jack thing is kind of dsumb :)
[07:08] <Myrtti> hmmm
[07:08] <Myrtti> oatmeal porridge awaits me
[07:08] <Orborde> bob2: Okay, I finished backing up files and tried it. It had some issues.
[07:08] <thoreauputic> aru: kind of hard to configure, I found
[07:08] <Razor-X> Orborde: you can't understand the script though?
[07:09] <Lichte> Hi all
[07:09] <bob2> Orborde: e.g.?
[07:09] <deFrysk> XhyldazhK, sude dpkg-reconfigure locales ?