[00:56] <kodiak_f> I've read through all the man pages but I can't find an answer for this - with proxy settings for APT, I can't see how to set 'no_proxy' with APT.  This is needed for our proxy since hairpinning back to our local infra is not allowed
[00:56]  * Zayd478 Hello
[00:59] <leftyfb> kodiak_f: did you try: Acquire::http::Proxy "false";
[00:59] <Zayd478> Hello
[00:59] <kodiak_f> Hello leftyfb - Apologies - I should explain that I need proxy for upstream APT repos, but must not use proxy for local on-prem repos
[01:00] <leftyfb> kodiak_f: then that would be a configuration for the proxy server, not the client
[01:00] <leftyfb> !support | Zayd478
[01:01] <kodiak_f> leftyfb:  sometimes upstream proxy servers are out of the control of the Linux user or Linux sysadmin.  Red Hat variants are flexible and allow per-repo proxy settings.  I'm looking for the equivalent for APT.
[01:02] <leftyfb> kodiak_f: there is none as far as I know
[01:02] <kodiak_f> thanks, that is what I'm seeing within the man pages - I may just end up having to go upstream to the apt maintainers to see if there is a way to force APT to honor no_proxy env vars
[01:02] <leftyfb> kodiak_f: though, a quick google search turned this up. Maybe there is: https://askubuntu.com/a/715820/1151311
[01:04] <kodiak_f> ah interesting - thanks
[01:05] <kodiak_f> your google findings beat mine - and from yours I was able to find a possibly more detailed description here https://askubuntu.com/questions/364635/acquirehttpproxy-for-only-specified-repositories -- thanks very much
[01:15] <Doc-saintly31> Hi all. Can anyone guide me on how to update the kernel for a system with LUKS encryption? It appears the grub cfg edited in the booted OS is not the one use during decryption and booting
[01:17] <leftyfb> Doc-saintly31: I have a full LUKS encrypted drive on all of my workstations. Have for years. No issue with updating the kernel package like any other package during regular updates
[01:18] <Doc-saintly31> Im just using the option during install though, and updating the kernrl doesnt seem to affect it.
[01:18] <leftyfb> Doc-saintly31: what do you mean it doesn't seem to affect it? What version of ubuntu?
[01:19] <Doc-saintly31> In my booted system the grub.cfg points to 5.11.15, but when i look at the extra ext4 partition used to decrypt luks i see a grub file and kernel there hardcoded to 5.4
[01:19] <Doc-saintly31> 20.02l4
[01:19] <Doc-saintly31> 20.04*
[01:22] <leftyfb> Doc-saintly31: 5.11.5 is not a supported kernel on ubuntu 20.04
[01:23] <Doc-saintly31> Yes I used mainline to install it.
[01:23] <leftyfb> Doc-saintly31: why?
[01:23] <Doc-saintly31> But why does it work fine without disk encryption. But disk encryption forces an older kernel?
[01:23] <Doc-saintly31> I need support for 11th gen intel chip
[01:51] <pinkos> hi
[01:51] <pinkos> pardon does ubuntu 20.04 come with default firewall rules enabled?
[01:52] <pinkos> ufw doesnt seem to be pre-installed
[01:52] <pinkos> does that mean it has no firewall by default?
[01:52] <leftyfb> pinkos: there are no firewall rules enabled by default, no
[01:52] <pinkos> hmm
[02:00] <pinkos> are you sure there are no firewall rules enabled by default?
[02:00] <leftyfb> pinkos: yes
[02:01] <leftyfb> pinkos: you might want to ask for help with your issue and not what you assume is the cause
[02:01] <pinkos> well i can ssh an instance but not ping or reach its port
[02:01] <pinkos> its running in oracle cloud
[02:02] <leftyfb> pinkos: default images don't have a firewall by default. oracle cloud might have custom images and/or blocking you upstream
[02:03] <leftyfb> pinkos: contact oracle cloud for support. Your issue is more than likely unrelated to the OS you're running
[02:03] <pinkos> ok
[02:13] <CoolRock22> hi
[02:14] <CoolRock22> i have an iMac 2011 27" and on Elementary OS the screen brightness wont work, same thing with Ubuntu.
[02:51] <rome> Hi all. I'm on 18.04 LTS and trying to upgrade to 20.04. When I run do-release-upgrade I get the messages "Restoring original system state" and "Aborting" without any further details as to what went wrong. I've tried various things (e.g., removing external sources, setting my default Python interpreter to 3.x, etc.) but nothing has worked. Any suggestions? (It would be easier to debug with some more verbose output)
[02:54] <pinkos> i added the services http and https using firewall-cmd yet when i do --list-all i dont see http and https under services
[02:54] <pinkos> am i doing something wronig?
[03:02] <tomreyn> rome: there should be a log at /var/log/release-upgrade i think
[03:02] <guiverc> rome, usual reasons are 3rd party packages added (preventing upgrade) so removing them (ppa-purge) & ensuring default python (2 & 3) are unchanged are key.. there are logs but I forget where
[03:03] <Bashing-om> rome: 1st things first - what shows ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ?
[03:05] <rome> tomreyn: the log is `/var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log` but the only relevant line is `2021-04-17 19:40:30,752 DEBUG abort called` :-(
[03:06] <rome> guiverc: I did ppa-purge and tried with both Python 2 and 3 :-(
[03:07] <rome> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D3mWXM8BK2/
[03:09] <tomreyn> rome: this would provide yet more info:   sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1; sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[03:11] <rome> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/ir6a
[03:11] <tomreyn> also this: apt list --installed | grep 'local\]$' | nc termbin.com 9999
[03:11] <sware> Does anyone know if there is a place to download old PHP packages for i386 arch? I need a specific version that is no longer available.
[03:13] <rome> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/ehye do you think it would help to remove all these packages?
[03:14] <tomreyn> rome: possibly. we don't have any other clue so far
[03:14] <rome> tomreyn: Thanks! Let me try and ping you in a bit.
[03:15] <tomreyn> rome: can you also post the full /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log ?
[03:16] <rome> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/4lck
[03:18] <tomreyn> try installing the "screen" package
[03:21] <tomreyn> also, if you have files returned by this, say so:   ls -l /etc/apt/preferences{,.d/*}
[03:23] <tomreyn> rome: i think i'm seeing the problem. your python is python3, but 18.04 defaults to python2
[03:24] <rome> tomreyn: no files returned by ls -l /etc/apt/preferences{,.d/*}
[03:24] <tomreyn> you should never change the system python version
[03:25] <rome> tomreyn: When I first tried I was on Python 2. I only did an update-alternatives to try to see if that was the problem
[03:26] <rome> It failed after installing screen (and this was after switching back to Python 2)
[03:27] <tomreyn> what is "it" that failed after installing "screen"? and how did "it" fail?
[03:27] <rome> Apologies. do-release-upgrade failed after installing screen. It failed in the same way (though now it was running inside a screen session)
[03:28] <tomreyn> can you post /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log again?
[03:30] <rome> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/pgpoz
[03:32] <rome> Oh, it seems as though the Python version is still 3.x. I thought update-alternatives would fix that. Maybe I should just remove Python 3 entirely
[03:33] <tomreyn> maybe do-release-upgrade actually needs to use python 3, i'm just trying to clarify this
[03:33] <rome> BRB, reboot
[03:48] <tomreyn> rome: your /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log should indeed say: python version: '3.6.9 (default, Jan 26 2021, 15:33:00) [GCC 8.4.0]' - as yours does. the line where it says "abort called" is the problem. apparently do-release-upgrade fails to run some apt functions there. it would normally go on to report "MetaPkgs: ...", "Foreign: ...", "Obsolete: ..." packages and states there, then try modifying your sources.list.
[03:49] <rome> tomreyn: Gotcha. It might be easier at this point to just blow whatever's on the hard disk and replace it with a fresh install, unless you want to try anything in particular before I do so
[03:49] <rome> (Also, thank you for helping)
[03:51] <tomreyn> rome: i'm puzzled really, no idea what may have happened there.
[03:56] <rome> tomreyn: Thanks for trying. Have a good one!
[04:01] <JoeBk> what is the release date for 21.04?
[04:02] <JoeBk> apr 22. I googled it.
[04:09] <pytorch> how do i install certbot without using snapd?
[04:11] <guiverc> pytorch, you haven't provided release details; but https://packages.ubuntu.com/groovy/certbot
[04:36] <pytorch> guiverc: it seems like that certbot is older version than the current stable
[04:38] <guiverc> deb packages are built for a release.. it's a universe or community supported package, so they probably lack volunteers to re-package & SRU upgraded packages for stable releases... PPAs & 3rd party, or self-build are still options
[04:38] <guiverc> package for my release is 1.12.0-2; you never gave release details
[04:48] <THC_System\420> hey there, I've having a problem with my 18.04 LTS home server where systemd-networkd is continuously logging "Cannot assign requested address" errors when it tries to bind a dhcp ipv6 address
[04:49] <THC_System\420> the weird thing is that the same ipv6 address shows up in `ip address` output and I can ping it from another machine, so I'm not sure if this is a bug or a problem with me not understanding ipv6 :)
[04:52] <THC_System\420> I found this systemd issue in github where others reported similar error messages: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8686. The issue is still open and isn't pin-pointed to being a single specific problem, nor an issue with systemd necessarily. There's a good tip in that thread which shows how to enable debug logging with networkd, which I've done.
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> THC_System\420: you might wanna visit #ubuntu-server for likeminded experts
[05:35] <THC_System\420> ^ sounds good, thanks :)
[08:12] <blackyboy> Hi all
[08:12] <blackyboy> One of application user (user1) pushing files into a SFTP server. Once the SFTP server received the files it will be picked (CUT) by another application user (user2) for processing. Now the application team need to make a copy of those received files to be used by a different application user (user3). The frequency of pushing files to the SFTP is 5 minutes. How can i make the copy of those files?
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: ^ perhaps
[08:35] <thatpythonboy> leftyfb: hi i.imgur.com/NVPY9Vv.png what is vpnpassthrough
[08:36] <thatpythonboy> how can i open my router ports for ssh
[08:42] <rory> port forwarding is probably in Security there
[08:43] <rory> I believe VPN passthrough allows you to use IPsec or PPTP VPNs from machines behind NAT
[08:44] <rory> nice https://www.theedgyveg.com/2014/01/20/vegan-buffalo-wings-recipe/
[08:44] <thatpythonboy> why is everyone is #ubuntu obsessed with vegan buffalo wings
[08:45] <rory> I just saw it in that screenshot lol
[08:45] <thatpythonboy> oh clever
[08:47] <rory> on my router I have to first define a service "SSH" that is port 22, and then separately forward the port to that service
[08:47] <rory> but I've also used routers where the port forwarding just requires you to specify a port. so click around. but "port forwading" is what you are looking for.
[08:48] <thatpythonboy> how do those it guys tell windows users to install vnc but without router config manage to remotely control their windows machines, i'd like you to do that rory
[08:49] <rory> which IT guys? Are you sure it's a straight up VNC server and not some remote-access software that calls out to a central server to initiate the connection from behind NAT?
[08:50] <thatpythonboy> it's some remote access on the IT guys side
[08:51] <thatpythonboy> yup i mean from behind NAT or reverse-ssh
[08:51] <submariner> I dont recall much people using vnc in past years. Its usually something like Team Viewer, which exists for linux as well
[08:54] <submariner> I've used team viewer many times to assist windows users
[08:59] <thatpythonboy> https://i.imgur.com/IsbRV6b.png rory
[09:00] <rory> thatpythonboy, you will have to "add custom service" for SSH (port 22)
[09:03] <sabasedigh> Hello. I want to reduce the memory usage of gnome ubuntu. evolution-* is sucking lots of memory.
[09:03] <sabasedigh> what are they?
[09:04] <thatpythonboy> rory: https://i.imgur.com/389gxIW.png
[09:04] <thatpythonboy> <IP_ADDRESS> is my laptop but what is <IP_ADDRESS> it's not desktop=<IP_ADDRESS> and router is <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:05] <sabasedigh> how could I remove evolution-*.
[09:05] <rory> thatpythonboy, set those ports both to 22, and enable Use the same range for internal ports
[09:06] <rory> a phone maybe? or an IP address that previously got assigned and the router still remembers it even though it's not currently online?
[09:06] <rory> This is not really an Ubuntu support question
[09:06] <thatpythonboy> sabasedigh: https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/MemoryReduction https://linuxhint.com/memory_optimize_gnome/ no idea about evolution never used it
[09:06] <submariner> thatpythonboy, how old is your router ? have you considered flashing openwrt to it ?
[09:06] <thatpythonboy> rory: i get it but i am on ubuntu and ssh is basics of linux
[09:07] <thatpythonboy> i'd never use openwrt on netgear, instead bridge to desktop where i'd use openwrt
[09:07] <rory> set all that stuff to 22 and pick your correct IP and it will work - I don't know how to figure out what the other device is
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> thats more a ##networking question thatpythonboy
[09:14] <thatpythonboy> what's internal starting port
[09:15] <thatpythonboy> i.imgur.com/glkVcZw.png
[09:19] <thatpythonboy> https://i.imgur.com/n8HjiIJ.png now how to ssh
[09:19] <thatpythonboy> ssh user@ip now what's the global ip
[09:19] <thatpythonboy> ifconfig doesn't show the global ip
[09:20] <thatpythonboy> ssh startingport,endingport user@ip ;so what's the actual cmd
[09:20] <thatpythonboy> Apr 18 13:49:33 z sshd[2274]: Server listening on <IP_ADDRESS> port 22. rory
[09:21] <thatpythonboy> the router's port is different than ubuntu's port
[09:30] <rory> set those ports both to 22, and enable Use the same range for internal ports
[09:30] <rory> not 64123 unless you changed SSH server settings in ubuntu to that
[09:34] <thatpythonboy>  what's the ip for wan? ifconfig shows lan
[09:35] <rory> google "what is my IP" it tells you
[09:44] <wyoung> curl https://api.ipify.org
[10:21] <kristian_on_linu> cheers
[10:24] <kristian_on_linu> still no wifi with the t520 on 20.04 (Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205)
[11:07] <zen_coder> I have ubuntu 18.0 I started ubuntu in wayland, then switched back to normal x11 in ubuntu 18.04, now when I start firefox I get following eror: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2YzfCBmHnH/
[11:07] <zen_coder> can andybody help?
[11:07] <zen_coder> starting in safe mode also doesnt help
[11:08] <vmguy23m> Its trying to use Wayland
[11:10] <zen_coder> starting in wayland does not start it either
[11:10] <zen_coder> there I see a window, but it is all black
[11:49] <zen_coder> can anybody help?
[11:50] <xet7> zen_coder: help with what?
[11:51] <xet7> zen_coder: please give more details
[11:57] <zen_coder> xet7: this is my issue: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2YzfCBmHnH/
[11:57] <zen_coder> cannot start firefox anymore, after I started ubuntu with wayland compositor for one time
[11:58] <zen_coder> now firefox seems to try to start I am still under wanyland
[11:58] <zen_coder> thinks that I am under wanyland
[11:58] <mrkubax10> try reinstalling firefox
[12:02] <zen_coder> okay I will do
[12:02] <cbreak> try starting with an other profile?
[12:10] <ockid> How do I overclock my nvidia 1080 memory on ubuntu 20.04 lts?
[12:15] <wyoung> ockid: You work on yourself, grow up, and forget about overclocking.
[12:15] <ockid> wyoung nice projecting
[12:16] <wyoung> Any time ockid
[12:20] <zen_coder> after reinstalling it is starting again
[12:21] <zen_coder> so what is it with wayland?
[12:21] <zen_coder> it is still not working?
[12:22] <wyoung> ockid: but seriously, overclocking is what teenagers do.
[12:23] <wyoung> Trying to get more performance out of stock equipment, destroying it quickly and using more electricity / fuel.  Same as teenagers with cars.
[12:23] <ockid> wyoung but seriously, you don't understand why people oc memory so cba
[12:23] <wyoung> and boaring out cylinders and adding turbos
[12:23] <wyoung> ockid: I do understand, they are young and immature
[12:24] <ockid> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[12:30] <sabasedigh> considering other linux distros and even other desktop env's on ubuntu; FireFox mpv and java spawn too much processes with different pids causing much cpu and memory usage. A. Why? B. How to dail it down. Please advice me in this regard
[12:30] <sabasedigh> Thanks
[12:31] <wyoung> sabasedigh: I haven't experienced that.
[12:31] <wyoung> Have you installed any third party or custom java apps that startup at boot time?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:32] <wyoung> Hi BluesKaj
[12:33] <BluesKaj> hi wyoung
[12:33] <wyoung> What's the latest?
[12:33] <[VMGuy23]> Hello BluesKaj
[12:34] <BluesKaj> hi [VMGuy23]
[12:36] <sabasedigh> wyoung: when you play a movie with mpv how many mpv processes do you see in htop?
[12:36] <sabasedigh> I installed oracle java for running android studio
[12:36] <wyoung> sabasedigh: I use VLC
[12:37] <sabasedigh> wyoung: is it better?
[12:37] <sabasedigh> let say is it lighter?
[12:38] <[VMGuy23]> With visualisations on VLC, the sound sounds slightly out of tune (lower) when playing mp3s
[12:39] <wyoung> sabasedigh: I haven't experienced the resource issues you have mentioned if that is waht you mean
[12:39] <wyoung> [VMGuy23]: so use something else for playing music
[12:39] <wyoung> I use Spotify myself
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> keep things seperated guys
[12:40] <[VMGuy23]> wyoung: For mp3's most players work, Spotify is a bit too much for just MP3s
[12:41] <wyoung> Rhtymenbox is good
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> [VMGuy23]: wyoung keep this channel for support only please
[12:42] <[VMGuy23]> Yep, moving to another channel now
[12:44] <wyoung> lotuspsychje: OK
[13:28] <Iarla> I'm on a fully updated 20.04 machine which has Libreoffice 6.4. I was sent a presentation done with Libre Office 7.0 (on macos) and the layout is all over the place. Would upgrading the Ubuntu version to 7.x fix this, and should I go the snap route or ppa?
[13:39] <longshanks> hey all :)  I want to xfer my media from an internal hdd to a larger (new) hdd. my pc only has space for one internal 3.5 hdd as i have a 2.5 ssd (for OS) and a 3.5 hdd for media. i've attached the drive using a USB caddy. i partioned and formatted (ext4). I've mounted the new drive ok but i can only write files as root. what am i doing wrong?
[13:40] <longshanks> Obvioulsy some kind of permissions problem somewhere. In fact the error I'm getting is permission denied, unless I'm root
[13:41] <JoeBk> longshanks, shouds like you need to change ownership of destination directory.
[13:41] <JoeBk> man chown
[13:42] <JoeBk> s/shounds/sounds
[13:44] <longshanks> JoeBk: i did that
[13:46] <JoeBk> what does ls -ld <directory> show?
[13:47] <longshanks> Ah. think it's working. had to unmount and remount after changing the perms
[13:56] <Iarla> Seems my issue was font related. I'll ask in #libreoffice about that though since it's not Ubuntu related.
[13:59] <remline> Iarla: Good find. It may be appropriate to exchange PDFs instead of libreoffice presentations, depending on the needs and use case.
[14:01] <[VMGuy23]> Fonts crashes on launch
[14:07] <lucas-arg> any ideas how to check whats the proxy sever in the server im connected?
[14:09] <[VMGuy23]> What do you mean?
[14:12] <Iarla> remline: it was a collaboration in this case, but yes, pdf in all other cases makes sense. I'm looking now for a way to quickly get a list of fonts used in an LO document so I can quickly trouble shoot if this happens again.
[14:14] <remline> Iarla: Under File > Properties, Font tab, I see an option "Embed fonts in the document." Perhaps that would be useful for collaboration?
[14:15] <Iarla> remline: oooooh, nice find! I'll try that now and see what happens.
[14:24] <Iarla> remline: oddly, that didn't work. At least not with Impress. It's probably a bug though. Off to #libreoffice again I suppose :)
[14:34] <[VMGuy23]> Opera won't start, shows this: https://bpa.st/YQPQ then nothing happens until I ^C twice
[14:44] <ioria> [VMGuy23], probably an issue with snap and your (probably) installed AMDGPU-PRO
[14:48] <[VMGuy23]> It's the deb from the website
[14:49] <leftyfb> [VMGuy23]: remove it and install from snap. We can't support that here
[14:50] <[VMGuy23]> The snap is no different
[14:50] <ioria> [VMGuy23], for troubleshoot purpose, i suggest to boot with nomodeset and try to launch Opera
[14:51] <[VMGuy23]> What do you mean, boot with nomodeset?
[14:51] <leftyfb> [VMGuy23]: I just installed from the snap and it runs just fine
[14:51] <ioria> [VMGuy23], if you boot with the nomodeset parameters, the video drivers won't be loaded
[14:52] <ioria> the point is the driver, i guess, not the software pacaging
[14:52] <ioria> *packaging
[15:48] <FreeBDSM> hi. Ubuntu 20.04 has mpv 0.32.0, while mpv's stable version is a more recent one, whom to ask to push an update of mpv to ubuntu's repo?
[15:52] <mrkubax10> you can manually install deb with newer version
[16:11] <eelstrebor> what are these kernels in the repository that have a -oem on the end? (5.10.0-1014-oem) some have a star in the checkbox but they're not installed.
[16:12] <sabasedigh> hello
[16:12] <sabasedigh> hello again
[16:14] <sabasedigh> I want to use something alternative to click&clean for chrome browser! do you know one?
[16:17] <javi404> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1220175/how-do-i-get-the-grub-menu-to-show-on-a-macbook/1299955#1299955
[16:17] <javi404> fun times
[16:24] <javi404> why can't the shim just be uninstalled?
[17:15] <auxin> I am curious, how might I attempt to install a package from a previous ubuntu release. Can I add a depo somehow?the package in question is synergy 1.8.8-stable+dfsg.1-1 (arm64 binary) in ubuntu artful, note it's for arm64.
[17:23] <kristian_on_linu> jeremy31, tomreyn ... thanks for the help, turned out this moron was using the wrong pw :<
[17:34] <jeremy31> kristian_on_linu: I would put it back on 11n_disable=8 then as that should be the better choice
[17:37] <kristian_on_linu> options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 swcrypto=8 bt_coex_active=0 power_save=0
[17:37] <kristian_on_linu> and then just comment out the rest of this string?
[17:39] <jeremy31> kristian_on_linu: The rest probably doesn't matter as the 6205 shouldn't have bluetooth, the 6235 would
[17:39] <kristian_on_linu> I'll comment it out, then
 options iwlwifi 11n_disable=8 swcrypto=1 bt_coex_active=0
 I have this in my iwlwifi.conf
[17:40] <tomreyn> this was before changes, i think. note the value of swcrypto
[17:40] <tomreyn> 11n_disable=8 seems wrong, though
[17:41] <jeremy31> tomreyn: that enables aggressive TX and really helps with some chipsets
[17:41] <tomreyn> oh ok, i assumed it was a boolean
[17:41] <tomreyn> but you're right, it's 1..8
[17:42] <tomreyn> swcrypto is reported to be of type int, default 0 [hardware]
[17:42] <jeremy31> default for 11n_disable is 0
[17:44] <tomreyn> i'm just trying to help set these module parameters how they were, and to values that can make sense, didn't mean to suggest any specific values.
[17:45] <jeremy31> tomreyn: want the default list?
[17:45] <tomreyn> kristian_on_linu: modinfo -p iwlwifi    lists parameters and defaults, i think
[17:46] <jeremy31> If you remove what you add to iwlwifi.conf and remove/install driver it will go back to defaults
[17:47] <tomreyn> kristian_on_linu will work it out, i think.
[17:47] <kristian_on_linu> 11n_disable:disable 11n functionality, bitmap: 1: full, 2: disable agg TX, 4: disable agg RX, 8 enable agg TX (uint)
[17:49] <tomreyn> none of what i read so far seems to explain why you'd change swcrypto from 1 to 8
[17:53] <jeremy31> tomreyn: where was swcrypto set to 8?
 options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 swcrypto=8 bt_coex_active=0 power_save=0
[17:54] <jeremy31> Might have been a typo, I hope
[17:55] <kristian_on_linu> should I have it at 1 or 8?
[17:55] <kristian_on_linu> ah
[17:55] <kristian_on_linu> 8
[17:55] <jeremy31> swcrypto  is a boolean
[17:56] <jeremy31> Y/N or 1/0
[17:56] <kristian_on_linu> ah
[17:57] <kristian_on_linu> options iwlwifi 11n_disable=8 # swcrypto=1 bt_coex_active=0 power_save=0 <-- I have this line at the end of iwlwifi.conf now
[18:00] <jeremy31> kristian_on_linu: you can check the current setting with> grep [[:alnum:]] /sys/module/iwlwifi/parameters/*
[18:00] <_Sym_> kristian_on_linu, what iwlwifi chipset are you referring to?
[18:01] <kristian_on_linu> Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] (rev 34)
[18:02] <kristian_on_linu> Sym, is that not a Western alphabet S at the start of your name?
[18:03] <_Sym_> its an underscore
[18:13] <_Sym_> kristian_on_linu, I was just looking for the latest firmware update for your chipset and it says iwlwifi-6000g2a-ucode-<IP_ADDRESS>
[18:13] <kristian_on_linu> ah, no idea why hexchat is not showing that underscor
[18:13] <kristian_on_linu> *underscore
[18:14] <kristian_on_linu> the problem's been solved (it was just me using the wrong pw), so no reason to do more :)
[18:14] <_Sym_> ah ok
[18:16] <sabasedigh> I want to  export LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME=i965
[18:16] <sabasedigh> every boot and shell indepen.
[18:16] <sabasedigh> Where should I put it.
[18:17] <kristian_on_linu> but thanks anyway, _Sym_, I'm glad to see that #ubuntu is still a helpful place ;)
[18:29] <tomreyn> sabasedigh: /etc/environment
[18:33] <sabasedigh> tomreyn: should I made it executable?
[18:34] <tomreyn> sabasedigh: no
[18:38] <tomreyn> sabasedigh: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man7/environ.7.html
[18:38] <sappheiros> The topic's link leads to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SupportedHardware which is outdated: Is there a better resource to help me build an Ubuntu-compatible Ethereum node? Can someone here help me refine https://newegg.io/323bb6a or refer me to a better forum to ask? Should I ask at https://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=332 after checking the stickies?
[18:39] <sappheiros> I will replace that NVIDIA graphics card with an AMD one per a different website's recommendation...
[18:39] <tomreyn> we don't do hardware recommendations here, but #ubuntu-offtopic should work
[18:39]  * sappheiros stifles a tear
[18:40] <sappheiros> 'k thanks ...
[18:40] <leftyfb> sappheiros: this might be a good starting point for you: https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop
[18:40] <compdoc> sappheiros, try ##hardware too
[18:41] <sappheiros> leftyfb: I found that list of Dell, hp, and lenovo, but Dell seemed not to be sufficiently configurable (and required purchasing Windows) ... thanks
[18:42] <compdoc> what's needed on the OS side, just ubuntu and one or two software packages?
[18:43] <sappheiros> compdoc: for an Ethereum node? (i dunno.)
[18:44] <compdoc> sounds like a large learning curve
[18:44] <tatertots> sappheiros: fairly common knowledge that purchasing any of dell ubuntu offerings will cost more than the same computer shipped with windows
[18:45] <leftyfb> !ot
[18:55] <Roey> hi
[18:55] <Roey> can mp3splt split according to a timestamp list?
[18:56] <Roey> or, which linux utility can I use to do this?
[18:56] <Roey> thanks
[18:57] <s0ullight> hey, anyone who knows how to enable the mic of airpods pro on ubuntu?
[19:03] <tomreyn> s0ullight: https://superuser.com/questions/1588750/mono-mic-instead-of-stereo-sound-for-bluetooth-headphones-on-ubuntu sums up the sad situation regarding bluetooth devices on linux
[19:06] <tomreyn> you'd need to set those to a HSP or HFP profile (if supported), and, for the latter, patch pulseuadio, i think.
[19:07] <s0ullight> I can't seem to switch to HSP from A2DP
[19:07] <tomreyn> which ubuntu release are you running?
[19:08] <s0ullight> 20.04
[19:09] <tomreyn> https://askubuntu.com/a/1120106 may work then
[19:12] <s0ullight> trying it now
[19:13] <tomreyn> there's a comment "Didn't work for airpods pro" though.
[19:17] <s0ullight> it didn't
[19:20] <tomreyn> s0ullight: apprently, for airpods pro (there are two hardware versions, though, from what i read), you also need: https://askubuntu.com/a/1063582
[19:21] <tomreyn> so you may need "ControllerMode = bredr" in /etc/bluetooth/main.conf
[19:21] <s0ullight> did that already, doesn't help with mic
[19:22] <tomreyn> right, that's just about getting it to show up at all
[19:22] <vlm> trying to build a new profile with aa-easyprof /path/bin keep getting "ERROR: Invalid path for binary: /path/bin" any clue?
[19:22] <vlm> new apparmor profile that is
[19:22] <s0ullight> out of the box I could connect it and use as headphones, I'm trying to use them as a headset (mic included)
[19:22] <s0ullight> but that's rather tricky it seems
[19:23] <tomreyn> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508807
[19:26] <Roey> hello how do I split an mp3 album mp3 into smaller mp3s, according to a list of time stamps and track names?
[19:27] <tomreyn> Roey: did you try a web search on this, yet?
[19:28] <tomreyn> if you'd like to do it with a gUI, audacity is probably the easiest
[19:28] <eliocamp> Hello. I'm re-installing ubuntu over a previous install. Is it advisable / necessary to delete all the hidden config folders? I don't want to carry any config options.
[19:29] <leftyfb> eliocamp: why are you installing over it? Just reformat and reinstall. Then restore from backup
[19:30] <eliocamp> I have home in another partition, so I will be reformating the / partition.  I don't have an external HDD to do backups, unfortunately :(
[19:31] <tomreyn> cloud storage could also work, i guess
[19:33] <leftyfb> eliocamp: I would REALLY make backups your priority over anything else
[19:36] <eliocamp> Yeah, I'll get an external HDD in a couple of days. Perhaps also an old laptop to use as a back up server. But for the time being, I'm working with what I've got. My concern is that old config files would mess up apps installed with the new version of ubuntu if they have some changes between versions.
[19:37] <leftyfb> eliocamp: right, I start from scratch and pick and choose which configs I copy back over. I've been working on an ansible playbook to do all this for me for a while now.
[19:41] <ordos> Hi, does anyone here perhaps use the Roccat Ryos keyboard and if so does the T keys (T1, T2, T3) work by default out of the box or did you need to install custom drivers to use them in Ubuntu? Please ping my nickname if you reply. Thanks :-)
[19:44] <eliocamp> Thanks, leftyfb. I'd check which configs I want to keep.
[19:46] <matsaman> ordos: there does appear to be a driver specifically for it, which usually means it's worth having
[19:47] <ordos> matsaman, thanks I'll look into that. I'm busy researching it and have come across some drivers. Just wondering about out of the box support for now. But good to know that I at least have a plan B
[19:47] <matsaman> yeah, sorry <shrug>
[19:55] <Roey> tomreyn: thank you I'll look at that then
[20:19] <[VMGuy23]> i installed AMDGPU, then uninstalled because it didn't work on 20.10, and now my screen is stuck at default resolution (which is 1080p) and no other monitors are detected
[20:19] <[VMGuy23]> Any help?
[20:26] <glamboy> Hi, sorry if this is a sensitive topic, but I don't know where to ask it. I used to be an old Ubuntu user back in the Ubuntu 6.06 days, and now I find myself with technologies such as snap/flatpak and a whole lot of flame wars occurring around them. I am honestly very lost.
[20:27] <[VMGuy23]> glamboy: #ubuntu-discuss
[20:27] <glamboy> Thank you!
[20:28] <[VMGuy23]> no problem
[20:44] <fishbait> i need a bit of help does anyone have examples of nftables that runs ipv4 nat-masqueade and is ipv6 compatible?
[20:46] <fishbait> ive gotten as far as getting my test old-ass-ibook-g4 to get an ip but i need somewhere to start on the routing tables
[20:48] <fishbait> its quiet here....
[21:02] <fishbait> anyone out there active?
[21:03] <cbreak> we're all dead.
[21:03] <fishbait> oh thank god its just dead
[21:03] <petrj> talking dead
[21:04] <blahboybaz> I'm having some kind of problem with my nvidia card but the more I try to look for infos on it the more errors I get
[21:04] <fishbait> anyone know where i can find an nft example that runs ipv4/ipv6 dual stack and run ipv4 as masquerade?
[21:04] <fishbait> *nftables example
[21:04] <Maik> !patience | fishbait
[21:05] <blahboybaz> It won't work with obs (get an error), then I get an weird pcie bus error when I just close the lid on the laptop overnight, then some commands don't seem to work to get infos on it
[21:05] <fishbait> nah i thought my irc web client had borked
[21:05] <fishbait> and typed it again but made a typo
[21:05] <Maik> sure
[21:06] <blahboybaz> Is anyone familiar with nvidia driver?
[21:07] <leftyfb> fishbait: you might try #ubuntu-server. You issue is not ubuntu specific and a bit beyond the scope of questions regularly asked here
[21:07] <petrj> anyone tried installing ubuntu on m1 bare metal https://corellium.com/blog/linux-m1?
[21:07] <fishbait> ah okay i'll try that lefty THANK YOU!
[21:07] <petrj> i'll buy if it works :D
[21:08] <cbreak> why not use mac os?
[21:09] <leftyfb> petrj: it's not officially supported. You'll be on your own there
[21:09] <cbreak> it'll be so much better, since it actually has drivers for all the hardware
[21:09] <cbreak> even if linux "works", you probably won't have proper support for anything
[21:11] <petrj> drives on ubuntu work on intel-based mac flawlessly. m1 is new, so i guess it will take some time to get all drives working (if they aren't already)?
[21:11] <petrj> i prefer ubuntu over mac, unless it is not possible :)
[21:12] <leftyfb> petrj: then don't buy a mac
[21:14] <petrj> hardware is vendor's choice, software is user's. i think apple announced that they do not restrict users to install other os on m1.
[21:19] <cbreak> ... for now...
[21:19] <cbreak> petrj: but apple won't provide GPL drivers for their iGPU
[21:19] <cbreak> and I doubt they provide enough documentation to make it easy to write one from scratch either
[21:21] <petrj> bet, and they haven't followed standards even on the hardware side as corellium lab pointed out in that article.
[21:22] <petrj> i'll then wait for the next 'faster than m1 chip' non-man laptop :/
[21:24] <petrj> non-mac*
[22:01] <FreeBDSM> hi. Ubuntu 20.04 has mpv 0.32.0, while mpv's stable version is a more recent one, whom to ask to push an update of mpv to ubuntu's repo?
[22:02] <leftyfb> !latest | FreeBDSM
[22:02] <FreeBDSM> is it against some internal guidelines to publish updates to LTS branhes?
[22:02] <FreeBDSM> branches*
[22:03] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: Ubuntu is not a rolling release. Very few packages are kept updated to the latest. It's mainly bug and security fixes till the next release
[22:07] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: yeah, but did you just describe what's generally happening or are there some policies to not push updates?
[22:07] <FreeBDSM> because the goal of just keeping old version - is stupid
[22:10] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: is there a particular feature that you need that is in .33 as opposed to .32 which was release 7 months later?
[22:11] <leftyfb> also mpv .33 was released 7 months after the release of Ubuntu 20.04
[22:11] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: in fact, yes. Currently available version of mpv lacks a feature of not showing subtitles if they match audio language
[22:12] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: ok, and did you go to mpv's website that points you to their official PPA which has the version you're looking for?
[22:14] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: no, I did not, as I don't like this approach.
[22:31] <Biruwa> Hi there. We're trying to install Ubuntu Linux on a Macbook Air, 2020 Model number A2179. It's a last-gen Intel (x86_64) laptop (i.e. not the M1 chip). It has a T2 security chip on it, which I think is complicating the process. The installation fails every time at the GRUB bootloader stage. Does anyone have any advice?
[22:32] <Biruwa> The specific error message that I get is: "Executing 'grub-install/dev/nvme0n1 failed \n this is a fatal error"
[22:34] <jeremy31> Biruwa: Have you tried an install without connecting to the internet?
[22:35] <Biruwa> Yes, all install attempts were done without wireless connectivity.
[22:35] <Biruwa> I tried to specifically install Ubuntu 20.04, as well as the 21.04 beta. An earlier troubleshooting cycle has implied that there might be better compatibility with 21.04, because it has a more recent Linux kernel.
[22:36] <Biruwa> But unfortunately, 21.04 fails with the same error.
[22:36] <jeremy31> Biruwa: I just wondered as some updates to grub caused issues
[22:36] <jeremy31> You should consider reporting a bug
[22:37] <Biruwa> Ah, I see. I'll troubleshoot a bit more and dig through some older stackexchange/forum threads.
[22:37] <Biruwa> Hopefully someone else here would have some further insight and or ideas. I'm sure people have gotten Linux to work on a recent-series Apple before.
[22:37] <jeremy31> Might want to search bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[22:38] <Biruwa> Thank you.
[23:17] <basenode> how can i restart my bluetooth? restart bluetooth.service doesn't fix my problem
[23:17] <basenode> (which is that the bluetooth settings page isn't allowing me to turn on bluetooth, i can click the button but it appears to stay off)
[23:19] <Bashing-om> basenode: systemd try as ' systemctl start bluetooth.service ' .
[23:20] <basenode> Bashing-om: that was the first thing i tried like i mentioned above, but no dice
[23:20] <basenode> normally I would think that would be enough
[23:22] <basenode> ok modprob worked
[23:22] <basenode> *prbe
[23:22] <basenode> *probe
[23:22] <basenode> thanks ladies
[23:22] <Bashing-om> basenode: Humm .. if you run ' journalctl -f ' in another window. when starting bluetooth are there any hints in the journalctl output ?


[02:06] <nUboon2age> jtatum, jledbetter whats the thought for this month? I came last month but nobody else was there
[04:30] <nhaines> I have nothing on topic to contribute to the channel at the moment, so instead I come bearing a gift: http://i.imgur.com/s7tOH.jpg
[04:30] <darthrobot> Content type: [image/jpeg] Size: [119672]
[04:32] <pleia2> haha
[04:33] <nhaines> Actually I was fighting with Windows 8 in a VM earlier.  But VirtualBox 4.2 Beta 1 is a little broken too.  So I was fighting both of them.
[04:33] <pleia2> oh fun
[04:34] <pleia2> who won? :)
[04:34] <nhaines> I did, because I shut everything down and am playing Super Mario 3D Land instead.  :)
[04:34] <pleia2> nhaines++
[04:35] <pleia2> rww was at the ubuntu hour & debian dinner last night, he had his 3ds
[04:35]  * pleia2 learned this upon returning home :)
[04:36] <scientes> 3ds?
[04:36] <nhaines> Apparently there were some stages I had completed but without gold flags, so I am remedying this.  Also I can see the director of a Nintendo news site is playing New Super Mario Bros. 2 so I await a review.
[04:36] <nhaines> Haha, yes, he mentioned that to me and now I have his friend code.  :)
[04:36] <scientes> nhaines, why don't you use virt-manager + qemu-kvm?
[04:36] <scientes> its way better than vb
[04:36] <pleia2> scientes: nintendo handheld
[04:36] <nhaines> scientes: the Nintendo 3DS is an autostereoscopic handheld gaming device.
[04:36] <scientes> nhaines, except its more of a client with a rootkit
[04:37] <scientes> it searches out wifis to connect to when booting, and auto-downloads updates
[04:37] <scientes> and if it detects tampering it bricks itsself
[04:37] <scientes> get an openpandora
[04:37] <scientes> http://openpandora.org/
[04:37] <darthrobot> Title: [OpenPandora]
[04:38] <nhaines> Are we no longer talking about hypervisors?
[04:38] <scientes> we talk about everythin gin here
[04:38] <nhaines> Antecedents.
[04:38] <scientes> i was talking about the root-kit part of 3ds
[04:38] <nhaines> Signed auto-update from the manufacturer is not a rootkit.
[04:39] <scientes> its a manufacture-controller rootkit
[04:39] <scientes> cause you can't turn it off
[04:39] <nhaines> That's not what rootkit means and you can turn it off.
[04:39] <scientes> or rather, non-free controlling software
[04:39] <scientes> i've heard its impossible to turn off
[04:39] <nhaines> There's a switch on the side of the unit that disables wireless.
[04:40] <scientes> well you have to admit that even if that works its far from optimal
[04:41] <nhaines> I don't admit it.  Updates are downloaded automatically but not installed automatically anyway.
[04:41] <nhaines> Besides, I'm not interested in homebrew or piracy.  I bought the system to play Nintendo games.  If I wanted to do homebrew I'd just use an emulator.
[04:41] <scientes> http://hexus.net/gaming/news/3ds/26716-forced-nintendo-3ds-firmware-updates-combat-piracy/
[04:41] <darthrobot> Title: [Forced Nintendo 3DS firmware updates to combat piracy - 3DS - News - HEXUS.net]
[04:42] <nhaines> Meanwhile in 2012, updates are automatically downloaded but you are prompted to install, and then must read and accept an EULA before the install begins.
[04:44] <nhaines> I'm not the least bit interested in gaming on an OpenPandora device, but I would totally take this out drinking so I can code and drink.
[04:51] <scientes> what are the good games?
[04:56] <nhaines> scientes: There are a few, but Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy, Kid Icarus, The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX, Super Mario Bros., and The Legend of Zelda are my current favorites.
[04:58] <pleia2> I like 3D land a lot more than the regular SMB one
[05:02] <nhaines> pleia2: but it's a classic!
[05:03] <pleia2> yeah well :)
[05:03] <pleia2> perhaps I was just wanting something new
[05:08] <nhaines> pleia2: I would actually *love* to see Super Mario Bros. 2 on 3DS Virtual Console.
[05:09] <pleia2> I loved SMB2
[05:09] <pleia2> I got to play the princess :) she floats
[05:10] <pleia2> I have it for my Wii actually
[05:10] <nhaines> So do I, but I'd prefer it if I could play it on the go and also where no one can see me die repeatedly.  :)
[05:10] <pleia2> haha
[05:11] <pleia2> yeah, I have a massive TV, people across the street at the art school can watch me die
[05:11]  * pleia2 draws shade
[05:11] <nhaines> haha :)
[05:37] <bkerensa> oh duh
[05:37]  * bkerensa couldnt figure out why Pushover was not sending IRC notifications
[05:37] <bkerensa> =/
[05:37] <bkerensa> I flashed a new rom
[06:17] <nhaines> pleia2: Oh good, this just happened to me [NSFW - profanity]: http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/11/16
[06:17] <darthrobot> [503] Title: [503 Service Unavailable]
[06:17] <nhaines> Also darthrobot lies.
[06:17] <pleia2> Error 503 Service Unavailable :(
[06:17] <nhaines> pleia2: keep F5ing.  :)  It came up for me second try.
[06:19] <nhaines> pleia2: the newspost is also relevant: http://www.penny-arcade.com/2011/11/16
[06:19] <darthrobot> [503] Title: [503 Service Unavailable]
[06:19] <pleia2> it hates me
[06:19] <philballew> I tried and had nothing
[06:19]  * philballew runs away to his hole and cries
[06:20] <bkerensa> =o
[06:20] <nhaines> Now I will try world 7-[scary airship]
[06:20] <nhaines> Which should definitely be a Unicode codepoint.
[06:21] <pleia2> ah, friend has arrived! night all
[06:22]  * pleia2 go be social
[06:22] <philballew> Social, whats that?
[06:26] <nhaines> pleia2: have fun!  :)
[12:03] <Darkwing> bkerensa: ping
[15:34] <bkerensa> Darkwing: pong
[17:16] <pleia2> Darkwing: you need to start giving some context to these pings :)


[16:17] <zaki> wb pavlushka
[16:17] <pavlushka> zaki: ty
[16:18] <pavlushka> zaki: how are you?
[16:19] <zaki> pavlushka, I'm alright
[17:28] <zaki> pavlushka, installed lineage os 14.1 on Samsung SM-J700H
[17:28] <pavlushka> zaki: wow
[17:28] <zaki> it's cool, and very much faster then stock samsung rom
[17:30] <zaki> and you can chose which google apps to install with firmware from open gapps
[17:30] <zaki> so no unnecessary  apps


[03:02] <Lope> sdeziel, amazing, thank you!!!
[10:01] <Lope> When I read about LXC on btrfs and storage pools and so on, it said it would use a subvol per instance and so on
[10:02] <Lope> but it's just dropped the rootfs inside /var/lib/lxc/mycontainer/rootfs
[10:02] <Lope> and there's no subvol there at all.
[12:04] <PeGaSuS> guys, as a regular user is there a way that I can mount a remote folder so I can play mp3 files from that older like that if they were local?
[12:11] <ravage> yes
[12:17] <PeGaSuS> sshfs is a good idea?
[12:32] <ravage> it really depends on the situation. and you really did not much information. sshfs can work well
[12:34] <PeGaSuS> I just need to make a remote folder available (40Gb of music) so I can listen to it with VLC locally.. I just have 17Gb available on my system, so I really need this kind of hacks


[01:01] <jubo2> Konversation - Great Justice
[01:10] <monkeyjuice> hows it going jubo2
[01:22] <archetech> fresh kubu 15.04 alpha1  dhcp doesnt  receive an ip
[01:26] <jubo2> archetech: I hear of local DNSSEC
[01:26] <archetech> nm   dhcp server eroor
[01:26] <jubo2> EROOOOORRRR!! ÖRRR!!!
[01:29] <jubo2> Konversation - Great Justice
[01:30] <jubo2> I've been logging _everything_ with Konversation and it's only ~780MB
[02:19] <valorie> jubo2: what do you mean by "great justice"?
[02:19] <valorie> I agree that konvi rocks
[02:29] <militantpotato> Hey, I have a dual monitor setup, with a TV connected via an HDMI cable, and my monitor through DVI.  I'm having an issue with GRUB where it only displays on the Television, which is annoying because it is either off, or being used for something else.  What do I add/change in the grub config to force it to show on my primary display (monitor).  I'm using Kubuntu 14.04
[02:48] <Dragnslcr> militantpotato: that isn't specific to Kubuntu, so you can also try asking in #ubuntu. It probably isn't even specific to Ubuntu, so some general pages on the web about grub might work.
[02:50] <militantpotato> Dragnslcr: Thanks.  I've posted in #ubuntu and #grub, and have been googling for two days.   I THINK i may need to add an acpi command to grub, but I'm not finding much.
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> It might be a BIOS setting, too
[02:59] <militantpotato> My bios lets me choose between onboard or PCI-E as a default display device only :(
[03:10] <militantpotato> welp I'm attempting video=DVI-D
[03:10] <militantpotato> fingers crossed
[03:19] <bjrohan> Does anyone have experience getting a USB modem to work with Ubuntu? Trying to connect a Cricket ac1750
[03:24] <jimmy51v_> hello... i have a box i can't get to other than with ssh right now.  i need to access the UI (KDE) somehow to save quite a drive and a lot of hassle.  what can i do?  it's kubuntu 14.04 64-bit.  thanks
[04:03] <graft> hey folks, i don't seem to be able to suspend to disk from the K-menu, even though sudo pm-hibernate works just fine
[04:03] <graft> any idea how to fix this?
[04:04] <graft> fresh install of 14.10
[04:08] <valorie> sounds like you might need to search launchpad for bugs about that?
[04:08] <valorie> I think I've heard that before
[04:08] <valorie> !bugs
[04:23] <graft> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[04:23] <graft> apparently it is disabled by default for some reason
[07:19] <soee> good morning
[08:56] <rydhwan> hello
[08:56] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:58] <rydhwan> im in plasma 5 i update today but have :An error occurred while applying changes: /var/cache/apt/archives/kio-extras-data_4%3a5.1.95-0ubuntu1_all.deb trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/kio_mtp.mo', which is also in package kio-mtp 0.75+git20140304-1
[08:59] <lordievader> rydhwan: Install it with dpkg and the --force-overwrite flag.
[08:59] <rydhwan> ok
[09:06] <rydhwan> Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/kio-extras-data_4%3a5.1.95-0ubuntu1_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:08] <lordievader> rydhwan: Could you pastebin the full error?
[09:08] <lordievader> !paste | rydhwan
[09:10] <soee> rydhwan: updates comr kubuntu-ci, staging or the packagesd are already in vivid archive ?
[09:10] <rydhwan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9754647/
[09:12] <lordievader> rydhwan: As I said, install it with dpkg and the --force-overwrite option.
[09:14] <rydhwan> what command ? thanks
[09:15] <lordievader> rydhwan: "dpkg" and give it the "--force-overwrite" flag.
[09:16] <rydhwan> ok
[09:19] <rydhwan> dpkg kio-extras-data --force-overwrite   exact ?
[09:20] <lordievader> No, have you read the dpkg man page?
[09:20] <rydhwan> no
[09:21] <rydhwan> im new
[09:21] <lordievader> rydhwan: man dpkg
[09:21] <rydhwan> ok
[09:21] <klerik> Hello, how I can use separeted trash dir on every disk, which mount from fstab?
[09:21] <klerik> It possible?
[09:23] <lordievader> Trash is stored in your homedir, for as far as I know.
[09:24] <klerik> yes, but when I delete large move, system move it on my homedir. This is not OK
[09:26] <lordievader> Hmm, don't know if that can be changed. I allways use shift+delete.
[09:27] <hateball> klerik: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188032
[09:30] <klerik> thank, so... shift+delete
[09:32] <rydhwan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9754734/
[09:33] <lordievader> klerik: Note, that deletes things right away.
[09:33] <lordievader> rydhwan: kio-extras-data.deb does not reside in your home-dir.
[09:34] <lordievader> rydhwan: Its something along "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kio-extras-data-<version>.deb --force-overwrite".
[10:48] <Lynoure> BluesKaj: (sorry for massive delay, ~25h), yes, the digital clock widget shows calendar when clicked, a week on each row. And I cannot make the weeks to start on Monday, for some reason.
[10:48] <Lynoure> oops, damn, he is not here.
[10:51] <JunkHunk> I have a sh file where I write all the changes I do to the system...I created a shortcut on desktop but I cant change icon
[10:52] <JunkHunk> I cant change icon either to the folder shortcut on panel...it keeps the home folder icon despite being used to open other folders...how would I fix this?
[10:54] <JunkHunk> is there any kubuntu variant for docky or cairodock?
[11:10] <floown> hello
[11:10] <floown> kparted doesn't exist no more ?
[11:10] <floown> I seen only gparted and parted in deposit
[11:12] <floown> ok it's partitionmanager now
[11:15] <yossarianuk> floown: yo ucan install gparted also on kubuntu
[11:15] <yossarianuk> I would just use parted + gdisk/fdisk
[11:19] <hateball> Hmmm, I can't get this thing to output to a second monitor :|
[11:19] <hateball> got a laptop in a bay, normally using 1 external monitor. kscreen detects a second one which I can enable but it's "ghosted"
[11:19] <hateball> nothing gets output to it
[11:21] <hateball> xrandr shows it properly too
[11:28] <hateball> nice power outage, think it killed every FOT in existence
[11:28] <hateball> fuck sake
[11:29] <hateball> sorry for the language and wrong window :|
[11:34] <floown> yossarianuk: yep, thx
[11:51] <JunkHunk> hello I am trying to get rid of desktop panel using docky instead...but I dont really know how to add the start button and desktop button to docky could anybody help¿
[12:00] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:39] <techmadi> Hello. I am having trouble using TOR browser for Mint 16.
[12:39] <techmadi> can anyone provide assistance?
[12:40] <alvin> This is #kubuntu, but it will probably be the same. Just
[12:40] <alvin> !ask
[12:40] <techmadi> !patience
[12:42] <hateball> !mint
[12:42] <rudybotdog> techmadi:  mint 16 is eof  i think upgrade to mint 17 would help you. but ast in @mint
[12:42] <techmadi> thank you.
[12:44] <domedron> hi to all
[13:56] <wolfgang> hi
[15:25] <shyam_> l
[17:28] <Guest6440> ciao
[17:28] <Guest6440>  atutti
[17:30] <domedron> Ciao a tutti
[17:30] <domedron> c'è qualcuno che può aiutarmi a configurare Quasal in modo da connettermi in una web chat esistente?
[17:31] <mparillo> !it
[17:33] <Guest6440> joinààù
[17:47] <naftilos76> Hi, is there an app to fit a dual layer dvd into a single ?
[19:40] <dbz2k> hello is anybody online?
[19:45] <lordievader> o/
[19:48] <Crell> Hello folks.  After a recent reboot, my system font settings seem to be AFU.  I don't think I made any changes to the font configuration in, um, ever.  But everything appears jaggy, smaller, and non-anti-aliased.
[19:48] <dbz2k> hi ho do I delete items from the open with menu in dolphin. I got wine uninstalled, but "winebrowser" is still there and can't figure out to delete from open with menu
[19:48] <Crell> Any idea what got screwed up and how to un-screw it?
[19:48] <soee> dbz2k: check dolphin settings if there is some service related to wine
[19:49] <dbz2k> soee: tried but it not in any packages
[19:50] <dbz2k> soee: any idea where to manually delete from open with menu
[21:09] <itadmin> helloooooooooo


[01:30] <maveas> Hi guys.
[01:31] <maveas> Anyone with experience with MAAS?
[01:31] <maveas> I am trying to test MAAS in VirtualBox. The MAAS server is installed but nothing happens when I try to boot my node (PXE)
[01:32] <maveas> Installed maas-dhcp etc.
[01:33] <maveas> Debugged with wireshark. The node sends dhcpdiscover but there is no response from the MAAS. Have no idea what the problem is. The MAAS is totally open (no rules in iptables)
[01:38] <sarnold> maveas: is the networking on your system configured for the virtualbox clients to be able to talk with each other?
[01:38] <sarnold> s/clients/guests/
[01:39] <maveas> It might not (don't know) :)
[01:39] <maveas> If each VM is bridged on the same interface (eth0) should it really be a problem?
[01:40] <maveas> I am able to set a static IP on each VM and access the internet..
[01:41] <sarnold> maveas: hrm, there's the chance that the packets are leaving your local machine's nic...
[01:42] <maveas> local as in ?
[01:42] <sarnold> maveas: try setting up the MAAS master on another physical machine on the physical network? :)
[01:42] <maveas> guest or host?
[01:42] <sarnold> sorry, host.
[01:42] <sarnold> oof. :)
[01:42] <maveas> Ah
[01:42] <sarnold> Or it might be easier to fiddle with the networking to unbridge them
[01:43] <maveas> So even if I tried to setup maas on my host and then boot a guest it would not work?
[01:43] <sarnold> (and no, I don't know the lingo well enough to use the actual technical term then... :)
[01:43] <maveas> That's ok :)
[01:43] <sarnold> maveas: it may not, if the 'bridged ethernet' mode means packets leave your host nic without being subjected to routing 'internal' on the host.
[01:43] <maveas> I'll try with my desktop as a node
[01:43] <sarnold> maveas: woo. nice half-way testing point. :)
[01:44] <maveas> Thank you for your time sarnold. Appreciated :)
[01:44] <sarnold> please do repotr back, I've been meaning to fiddle with maas in kvm for ages now...
[01:44] <maveas> Always online @ irc?
[01:44] <sarnold> maveas: yes
[01:45] <maveas> Ok. I'll try again tomorrow (2:45am here) and report back with my discoveries :)
[01:45] <maveas> Caio
[02:35] <pndemc> is there something like htop where I can view live dl/ul stats?
[02:38] <sarnold> pndemc: I know I've seen something nicer than this: http://iptraf.seul.org/shots/iptraf-iptm1.gif
[02:38] <sarnold> pndemc: but man, I cn't remember the name :(
[08:59] <soren_> hallyn: Not that it matters to the problem at hand, but I'd avoid versioning the dependency from qemu-kvm to qemu-system.
[09:00] <soren_> hallyn: Also, qemu-kvm used to provide both system and user qemu's, didn't it? If so, I'd make qemu-kvm (the transitional package) depend on both, otherwise people using qemu-user will lose functionality in the upgrade.
[09:45] <eagles0513875> hey guys I am setting up a mixed setup environment. client computers are windows based and the server back end is going to be linux based. in terms of user authentication with the network from the front end is RADIUS sufficient for that purpose or is its purpose only for wifi authentication
[10:19] <vezq> it can be used but depending on amount of users, also think what database RADIUS will use for users, e.g. LDAP if there are a lot of users
[10:23] <vezq> also security is one aspect, see this: http://lists.freeradius.org/pipermail/freeradius-users/2012-April/059947.html
[10:34] <peterrus> when trying to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 I get:
[10:34] <peterrus> Exception during pm.DoInstall():  E:Could not perform immediate configuration on 'mysql-client-5.5'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[10:34] <peterrus> that package is not installed
[10:41] <tizz> hi everybody! where is an IP alias (eth0:0) defined if it is not in /etc/network/interfaces? I deleted everything in /etc/network/interfaces but still eth0:0 is up after each reboot, with a static IP assigned. where the heck could this be defined in? thanks a lot!
[10:42] <vezq> tizz: check this directory /etc/network/if-up.d
[10:42] <vezq> also can be some initscript
[10:44] <tizz> vezq, thanks a lot, saved my a lot of time! there was actually a bash script in /etc/network/if-up.d creating the alias.
[11:29] <jamespage> jdstrand, hey - I'm reviewing a MP for a new version of iptables for raring; its the same version as is Debian experimental (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[11:30] <jamespage> and thoughts on whether thats a good idea or not?
[12:00] <samba35> how do i get X windows on windows with xming ,what i have to change in putty
[12:03] <greppy> samba35: you need to use port forwarding, specifcally x11.  connection, ssh, x11, check enable forwarding.
[12:03] <samba35> ok
[12:13] <soren_> jamespage: Do you know why it's in experimental rather than in unstable?
[12:14] <soren_> jamespage: <IP_ADDRESS> is in unstable.
[12:15] <jamespage> soren_, you are quite correct  - I misread the output of rmadison
[12:18] <soren_> jamespage: Back when I maintained iptables, I don't recall ever having any reservations about pulling in new versions.
[12:18] <soren_> fwiw
[12:18] <jamespage> soren_, my reservation was really around it being in experimental still :-)
[12:23] <scalability-junk> hey I'm working on a kickstart file and I have issues with encrypted raid.
[12:24] <scalability-junk> I wanted to use --fstype and --encrypted and --passphrase within raid of the kickstart, but it says sees options are not supported.. any hints?
[12:27] <scalability-junk> am I right to assume that kickstart files are sort of not supported with ubuntu?
[12:41] <jdstrand> jamespage: right, so <IP_ADDRESS>-4 is in unstable. you'll be able to drop a patch or two iirc, so yeah, I think that would be fine
[12:41] <jamespage> jdstrand, ack
[12:42] <Daviey> jamespage: We should probably look at a rsyslog merge aswell soonly?
[12:43] <jdstrand> jamespage: before you upload it, can you at least 'sudo ufw enable' then reboot, then 'sudo ufw status' to make sure it still comes up?
[12:43] <jamespage> jdstrand, OK
[12:43] <jamespage> Daviey, most probably
[12:44] <jdstrand> I know there are a couple upstream bugs for things that iptables has deprecated. it might be noisy, but still work. I'll fix the noisy bits. if it doesn't work, pass it to me and I can fix ufw and upload both at the same time
[12:44] <jdstrand> jamespage: ^
[12:44] <jamespage> jdstrand, gotcha
[12:44] <jdstrand> thanks
[13:29] <hallyn> soren_: it was before oneiric that qemu-kvm provided qemu-user, though
[13:30] <hallyn> soren_: what would be the reason to avoid versioning the qemu-kvm -> qemu-system depend?
[13:31] <soren_> hallyn: You should generally only do versioned relationship if the version really does matter.
[13:31] <soren_> hallyn: ...and I don't see how it does here?
[13:31] <soren_> hallyn: The looser the relationship is, the easier things will be for apt.
[13:32] <hallyn> soren_: well an older qemu-system which doesn't have qemu-kvm wouldn't suffice, is all...
[13:32] <hallyn> but i can drop it
[13:32] <soren_> Oh. I thought qemu-system was a new binary.
[13:33] <hallyn> no qemu-linaro provides it now
[13:33] <soren_> But still:
[13:33] <hallyn> for qemu without kvm
[13:33] <soren_> Erm... /me thinks some more
[13:34] <hallyn> soren_: meanwhile last night i reproduced what i thought was the situation with some dummy pkgs ina container with private mirror...  and all worked fine
[13:34] <hallyn> so i'm going to go pour over the control file and look for another typo
[13:34] <hallyn> :(
[13:34] <soren_> Heh .
[13:34] <soren_> Enjoy.
[13:34]  * soren_ is of little use today due to some sort of flu
[13:35] <hallyn> thanks :)  I really should try to enjoy - it would be fun if i didn't feel like i was on a deadline
[14:20] <caribou> jamespage: howdy, did you see the not from scott Kitterman about the walinuxagent SRU ?
[14:21] <jamespage> caribou, yes - Daviey sorted things out with the SRU team I believe
[14:22] <caribou> jamespage: ah, ok. What was the private bug he was reffering to ? I don't remember seeing one
[14:22] <jamespage> caribou, there is one referenced in the change log
[14:22] <caribou> jamespage: I thought it was the public bug I was working on...
[14:43] <rbasak> smoser: busy? I've got a couple of tools that could go into cloud-utils that I'd like you to look at before I integrate it.
[14:44] <smoser> rbasak, fire away
[14:44] <caribou> jamespage: so looks like they removed the SRU for Quantal for walinuxagnet
[14:44] <rbasak> So the first one is the libvirt cloud-localds wrapper. It takes one of three subcommands, create, destroy and import.
[14:45] <rbasak> First you import <image_name> <filename>. image_name might be "raring", and filename would be your download of the raring cloud image. That'll stick it into libvirt in /var/lib/libvirt/images/raring
[14:46] <rbasak> Then "create <hostname> <base_image>" which will create a cow image /var/lib/libvirt/images/<hostname> and start it. It injects your ssh key, a hostname and avahi-daemon install into the localds
[14:46] <caribou> :12
[14:47] <smoser> rbasak, ok. i hope that we will have wonderful tools for doing the downloading by the end of this cycle, and also tools that will keep your local image  list up to date.
[14:47] <rbasak> After that "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>should work
[14:47] <smoser> so hopefully we can use that.
[14:47] <rbasak> We can add that. I haven't done it yet for a first iteration
[14:47] <smoser> right.
[14:47] <rbasak> destroy gets rid of it completely
[14:47] <rbasak> I have no idea what to call this tool!
[14:47] <smoser> why 'a' a hostname, and 'b' a avahi-daemon ?
[14:48] <smoser> rbasak, well, i started something very similar with lxc
[14:48] <rbasak> I figure that zeroconf is the easiest way to find machines in a test/dev environment. No messing with IPs then. ssh just works too.
[14:48] <smoser> and called it "lxc-cloud"
[14:48] <rbasak> So libvirt-cloud then?
[14:49] <smoser> well, i was thinking the other way.
[14:49] <smoser> localcloud <hypervisor>
[14:49] <smoser> lcloud
[14:49] <smoser> lcloud <kvm> import
[14:49] <smoser> lcloud lxc import
[14:49] <med_> caribou, sounds like the walinuxagent thing is being worked (various ways)
[14:49] <smoser> ?
[14:50] <rbasak> As a single tool or as a wrapper to call the other tools or don't care?
[14:51] <smoser> rbasak, what do yo uthink ?
[14:51] <rbasak> cloud-fingerprint has subcommands grep, import and fix. fix just wraps grep and import. grep filters console output for the cloud-init fingerprint printout. import takes that on stdin, calls ssh-keyscan, ssh-keygen, verifies fingerprint etc.
[14:51] <smoser> i think single python would be nicer.
[14:51] <caribou> med_: k
[14:52] <rbasak> So I can do "euca-get-console-output i-123|cloud-fingerprint fix <IP_ADDRESS>" and it just works
[14:52] <rbasak> I thought it was time to split that out as this is useful for both local and remote clouds
[14:52] <smoser> rbasak, right.
[14:52] <smoser> how are you doing networking with libvirt ?
[14:52] <smoser> is this on the system libvirt ig uess ? (qemu:///system)
[14:53] <rbasak> The tool currently hardcodes qemu:///system. That could be configurable.
[14:53] <smoser> and how do you create and delete images ? it requires sudo ?
[14:53] <rbasak> The domain xml is picked up from a template. I intend that to go in /etc and ~/.something so that the user could override.
[14:53] <smoser> hm.
[14:53] <rbasak> Using lxml to manipulate the template, changing disks and hostname only. Networking stays as-is.
[14:53] <smoser> k.
[14:54] <smoser> i just come to the realiszation that we poitentially have
[14:54] <rbasak> Using libvirt python binding to create and delete images. No sudo needed.
[14:54] <smoser> lcloud libvirt-kvm
[14:54] <smoser> lcloud kvm
[14:54] <smoser> lcloud libvirt-lxc
[14:54] <smoser> lcloud lxc
[14:54] <rbasak> I'm not sure about non-libvirt
[14:54] <smoser> (ie, with or without lxc in the middle).  apparently there are people that do not think libvirt-lxc is "the real lxc"
[14:54] <rbasak> We would then have to manage things about where the persistent information about images is kept, at which point we'll have reinvented libvirt
[14:55] <rbasak> for kvm
[14:55] <smoser> rbasak, i agree, but there are many annoyances on libvirt and kvm.
[14:55] <rbasak> For lxc, the lxc package already does this
[14:55] <rbasak> So that's OK
[14:55] <smoser> well, networking is different is the big thing.
[14:56] <rbasak> What networking can you not do with libvirt?
[14:56] <zul> jamespage:  ping http://paste.ubuntu.com/1416957/
[14:56] <smoser> rbasak, the biggest issue i have with libvirt is its insistence on root owning my images.
[14:56] <smoser> rbasak, just that the networking is different.
[14:56] <smoser> not insufficient, just idfferent.
[14:56] <jamespage> zul, in a bit - have my head in swift charms from adam_g ATM
[14:57] <rbasak> If you go through the API, then that is no longer an issue, since you can still create/delete etc without root. With a wrapper tool that understands the API, is it really needed for someone who just wants to use images?
[14:57] <zul> jamespage: okies its just more cloud-archive tooling
[14:57] <smoser> rbasak, how do you delete images through api ?
[14:58] <smoser> i guess i didn't realize you coudl do that.
[14:58] <rbasak> you can virsh vol-delete --pool default <image>
[14:58] <rbasak> There are definitely things you can't do via the API
[14:58] <smoser> if your'e telling me i dont have to be root, but just have qemu://system access, then that rocks.
[14:58] <rbasak> And the API is really annoying and tedious to use
[14:58] <rbasak> But with suitable well-designed wrappers that pain should go away
[14:58] <smoser> but what is '<image>' there?
[14:58] <smoser> a path to an image ?
[14:59] <rbasak> I'm not sure what will work. I use just the filename as it appears in /var/lib/libvirt/images
[14:59] <rbasak> The abstraction is that directory is a storage pool
[14:59] <smoser> right. but then how did you put the image there.
[14:59] <rbasak> virsh vol-upload
[14:59] <smoser> oh good night.
[14:59] <rbasak> (yes, it's a pain!)
[15:00] <smoser> i didnt realize that was there. wow.
[15:00] <smoser> i guess our end game would be that those full images would be synced/populated as root
[15:00] <smoser> and your instance images would be qcow deltas backed by those
[15:00] <rbasak> I do belong to libvirtd btw
[15:01] <smoser> and then you'd hvae to upload "full localds ISOs"
[15:01] <smoser> rbasak, well, generally, i really like what you're doing.
[15:01] <smoser> and i really want to have nice tools like this for kvm and lxc
[15:01] <smoser> as i want to use them for testing cloud-init :)
[15:01] <rbasak> I'd like to write juju providers for this too :)
[15:02] <smoser> rbasak, 'lc2' (local compute cloud)
[15:02] <smoser> ?
[15:03] <rbasak> I like it. Makes it sound like a product though!
[15:03] <smoser> at the moment, we're only repllicating *compute*
[15:03] <smoser> in the future, we'll have analogs for object store, block storage, networking
[15:03] <smoser> ...
[15:03] <smoser> :)
[15:03] <smoser> and then profit
[15:04] <rbasak> that sounds like quite an interesting stack of tools. I wonder what we could call the entire collection?
[15:05]  * smoser wonders how much VC money we can get based only on the IRC conversation above.
[15:06] <smoser> rbasak, one thing that i want to at least attempt to support is non-ubuntu
[15:06] <smoser> images
[15:06] <rbasak> So far nothing is specific to ubuntu, only cloud-init, I think
[15:06] <smoser> with, of course, cirros being the first set of non-ubuntu images.
[15:06] <smoser> so what all do you do in the guest ?
[15:06] <smoser> oh, and do you take user-data ?
[15:06] <smoser> it has to
[15:07] <rbasak> Oh, I am assuming that avahi-daemon exists and can be installed.
[15:07] <smoser> what does that get you?
[15:07] <rbasak> I'm creating user-data. Right now I don't have the ability to take anything supplied by the user
[15:07] <rbasak> avahi-daemon makes zeroconf work. I can ssh <hostname>.local and it finds it
[15:07] <rbasak> No messing with IPs then
[15:08] <rbasak> I've come to the conclusion that it's the cleanest way of finding ephemeral machines in local use
[15:08] <smoser> i think i'd rather mess with IPs if i can find a way to deal with it.
[15:08] <smoser> i really dont want to make assumptions about the guest.
[15:09] <smoser> other than possibly that it brings up eth0
[15:09] <rbasak> It's a standard, doesn't really depend on anything apart from IP networking, will work with IPv6 well, doesn't depend on the dnsmasq trick which always felt horrible to me
[15:09] <smoser> well, if you're doing libvirt, you can specify
[15:09] <smoser> right?
[15:09] <smoser> you can set the ip that it will get on dhcp based on its mac that you also specify
[15:09] <rbasak> Not sure of the details. I struggled the last time I tried. libvirt was a bit buggy with the network xml stuff then (oneiric maybe)
[15:10] <rbasak> Suddenly we need to have an IP allocation mechanism
[15:10] <rbasak> And know what it is and how to query it
[15:10] <rbasak> With zeroconf, it doesn't matter what the user's using. He could be bridged to his LAN and using his own dhcp server and I don't need to care - it'll still work
[15:11] <rbasak> I'm not saying that we shouldn't support an alternative, just that this is a very easy case that takes no effort to get started
[15:11] <smoser> all this in exchange for making grave assumptions on the guest
[15:11] <rbasak> And we could add options for other mechanisms in the future
[15:11] <smoser> and not supporting user-data
[15:11] <smoser> :)
[15:11] <rbasak> I'm doing three things in user-data currently
[15:11] <rbasak> I'm automatically grabbing your ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub and sticking that in
[15:11] <rbasak> I'm adding avahi-daemon
[15:11] <rbasak> And I'm setting your hostname based on what you asked for it to be called
[15:12] <smoser> id_rsa.pub can be meta-data not user-data
[15:12] <smoser> same with hostname
[15:12] <rbasak> Oh, OK
[15:12] <smoser> so avahi-daemon is the sticking point.
[15:12] <smoser> but libvirt probably makes this work, honestly.
[15:12] <rbasak> Well user-data is YAML, so it's easy enough to have options that manipulate user-supplied user-data
[15:12] <smoser> rbasak, well, its not guaranteed to be yaml
[15:12] <rbasak> Oh
[15:12] <smoser> and it sucks to merge.
[15:13] <smoser> well, anyway.
[15:13] <smoser> tahat can be solvve.d
[15:13] <rbasak> Well how about making it yaml if you want zeroconf, or if you supply non-yaml then you don't get that or have to do it yourself
[15:14] <smoser> rbasak, well, the thing you really need to do is use multi-part input.
[15:14] <smoser> one part comes from you, one from the user.
[15:14] <smoser> if you're doing that.
[15:14] <smoser> the issue then is that multipart cloud-config does not actually merge well, but you could use boothooks for your portions.
[15:14] <rbasak> I'm not familiar with the details of that. How would two yaml parts be merged? What if I want avahi-daemon installed and the user wants hello installed?
[15:14] <rbasak> OK
[15:14] <smoser> but then you're makign assuptions on the guest again (ie, you'd have to know to use 'apt-get' rather than 'yum install')
[15:15] <rbasak> Yes
[15:15] <smoser> hm..
[15:15] <rbasak> At some point, assumptions on the guest allow us to make the tool more useful and do more automatically, which for a command line tool like this I think is important.
[15:15] <smoser> lets table this for now. i think with libvirt and a network of our own we can make this work.
[15:16] <smoser> but, i'm ok with your solutio nfor now.
[15:16] <rbasak> I favour making it simple by default, but possible to turn off some of the automation in return for removing assumptions on the guest, so then it'll still work with non-ubuntu guests
[15:56] <eagles0513875> hey guys what is the group name for samba is it samba or something else as I created a share directory in /srv/samba/SHARE NAME it has right permissions and everything but I cannot add it to the samba group
[16:16] <eagles0513875> hey guys what is the group name for samba is it samba or something else as I created a share directory in /srv/samba/SHARE NAME it has right permissions and everything but I cannot add it to the samba group i get chgrp: invalid group: `samba when i try to change the group
[16:22] <SpamapS> eagles0513875: samba runs as root
[16:22] <SpamapS> eagles0513875: because it needs to map uids <-> samba users
[16:22] <eagles0513875> :-/ ok what i was planning on doing is restricting users to shares for their particular department
[16:22] <eagles0513875> does that mean i need to add each user to the root group?
[16:26] <eagles0513875> SpamapS: im a bit lost as to now go about setting up my permissions in terms of users :-/
[16:27] <SpamapS> eagles0513875: well you need to either tell samba what to set the user to in the share config, or tell samba how to map users.
[16:28] <eagles0513875> how do i go about doing that as there is no mention https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html about having to do that
[16:29] <eagles0513875> SpamapS: are you talking about what is mentioned here https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileprint-security.html in terms of the groups?
[16:30] <SpamapS> eagles0513875: there is, its just not obvious.    security = user
[16:30] <eagles0513875> I have that set
[16:30] <SpamapS> sudo mkdir -p /srv/samba/share
[16:30] <SpamapS> sudo chown nobody.nogroup /srv/samba/share/
[16:30] <SpamapS> pretty clear there
[16:31] <alex88> hi guys, I'm starting an fcgi daemon this way
[16:31] <alex88> exec su -c "spawn-fcgi -s /tmp/imageserver.sock -u www-data -g www-data -n -- /usr/bin/multiwatch -f 10 /bin/imagefogimageserver" www-data
[16:31] <alex88> inside an upstart script
[16:31] <alex88> but sometimes the socket doesn't get created… what can be the issue?
[16:31] <eagles0513875> SpamapS: if i have /srv/samba/product and another share at /srv/samba/product/123 can i change the permissions of that directory to have the group 123 and users samba
[16:34] <SpamapS> alex88: that looks good to me. no errors reported
[16:36] <alex88> SpamapS, in fact usually it works fine, now the service was giving 502, i've checked and the socket wasn't there, but service service name status gave the proc id
[16:37] <alex88> I've restarted and the socket still wasn't there, restarting service instead make it working
[16:39] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: can i ask you a question really quickly if i have a share /srv/samba/A and i create another share in its subdirectory /srv/samba/A/B can i on subdirectory B modify the permissions and group and ownership. ownership to samba and then the group to a particular department group?
[16:40] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: why not
[16:40] <eagles0513875> right now I cannot change the parent directory its set to nobody nogroup
[16:41] <eagles0513875> should the parent directory A in my example be changeable as well?
[16:41] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: I assume you get an error message when you try change ownership
[16:41] <Tm_T> and yes why not
[16:41] <eagles0513875> yes i get an error on the parent directory
[16:42] <eagles0513875> be it the user or the group i get chown: invalid user: `samba'
[16:42] <eagles0513875> i checked the group file and the group samba exists
[16:43] <Tm_T> "getent group | grep samba" would tell you something
[16:43] <eagles0513875> sambashare:x:112:jaquilina oops its samba shre
[16:43] <eagles0513875> my bad
[16:44] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: epic fail on my part
[16:47] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: this is exactly what is worrying me
[16:47] <eagles0513875> i just figured it out
[16:48] <Tm_T> you get clear error message, and yet...
[16:50] <eagles0513875> i got it
[16:54] <jamespage> adam_g, see MP's for comments on swift charms.
[17:17] <jamespage> adam_g, the only thing I did not manage to do was actually verify that swift was working :-)
[17:26] <hallyn> jdstrand: still no comments from upstream on the patches from lp:~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/raring/libvirt/libvirt-hugepages .  Do you think it would help if you commented on those threads instead of doing the bzr merge review?
[17:27] <jdstrand> hallyn: I plan on commenting
[17:28] <jdstrand> hopefully today, otherwise tuesday (it's at the top of my todo list after some MIR reviews)
[17:28] <jdstrand> s/tuesday/by tuesday/
[17:32] <hallyn> jdstrand: on the libvir-list ?
[17:32] <jdstrand> yes
[17:33] <hallyn> jdstrand: awesome, thanks.  have a good weekend
[17:33] <jdstrand> thanks, you too
[17:34] <jdstrand> hallyn: do you have packages with those patches somewhere?
[17:35] <hallyn> jdstrand: no, but i can push them to a ppa if it helps
[17:35] <hallyn> (i mean yes, but compiled locally on an instance)
[17:35] <jdstrand> hallyn: a source package on chinstrap would be fine
[17:35] <hallyn> k
[17:36] <jdstrand> hallyn: I noticed that '[PATCH 1/1] add vnc unix sockets to apparmor policy' does not include a test case in tests/virt-aa-helper-test. could you add one?
[17:37] <hallyn> jdstrand: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/libvirt_1.0.0-0ubuntu3ppa1.dsc  and http://people.canonical.com/~serge/libvirt_1.0.0-0ubuntu3ppa1.debian.tar.gz
[17:38]  * hallyn goes to look at how those testcases are done
[17:38] <jdstrand> hallyn: can you also add one for '[libvirt] add security hook for permitting hugetlbfs access (v2)'? that one would just be doing the equivalent call to virt-aa-helper that ApparmorSetHugepages() is doing
[17:39] <hallyn> jdstrand: what is that meant to test exactly?
[17:39] <jdstrand> hallyn: that virt-aa-helper is doing what you meant for it to do
[17:39] <hallyn> ok
[17:42] <jdstrand> it exited with the correct exit code. also, if you pass '-d' to virt-aa-helper-test, then you will get debugging output to visually inspect
[17:42] <jdstrand> hallyn: ^
[17:45] <hallyn> jdstrand: ok that test program looks grok-able, thanks for that :)
[17:45] <jdstrand> np
[18:08] <phunyguy_work> Hey folks, I am not on Ubuntu-server, but I need to write a script for some proxy settings, and I need some advice.  I have a script that currently checks to see if my LAN is pingable, and if not, try to connect via VPN, and if I am at home, it will disconnect the VPN.  What I want to accomplish is have it change system-wide proxy settings when I am away from home and connected VPN to proxy my web traffic through
[18:08] <phunyguy_work>  home, (including aptitude), and when I am home, stop using the proxy.   Any ideas hwo to accomplish the proxy changes dynamically?
[18:09] <phunyguy_work> (the reason I ask here is due to command-line stuff)
[19:05] <adam_g> jamespage: re swift review, i'd rather spend time doing a proper rewrite of that charm than working on the current bugs. i think the underlying design of how swift-proxy + storage are deployed with the current charms is broken, and we can do better
[19:18] <halvors> I ran chmod 6755 /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver wich conflicts with the setuid. How to revert it?
[19:19] <sarnold> halvors: "conflicts with the setuid"? do you want that file to be setuid or setgid or neither when you're done?
[19:19] <halvors> I want it back to default...
[19:38] <jamespage> adam_g, ack
[20:05] <ankushsachdeva> my wifi does not connect to adhocs :(
[20:50] <raub> Trivial question: how do I partition a hard drive during the server installation using command line?
[20:51] <sarnold> raub: look for commands cfdisk or gparted first, then fdisk.
[20:54] <raub> sarnold: cfdisk, gparted, and fdisk are not in the built-in shell offeredn during install. And I forgot how to add a package at that point
[20:54] <raub> shame on me
[20:55] <sarnold> raub: try find / -name '*fdisk*' ... it may be there, just under a different name.
[20:55] <sarnold> err
[20:56] <sarnold> raub: under a different _path_ than you may expect
[20:57] <raub> sarnold: hate to say only fdisk thingie it reports is a package (.udeb).
[20:58] <sarnold> raub: darn.
[20:59] <raub> I am going to dl a new iso just in case
[21:08] <raub> Still no nice. Even with a single ext4 partition
[22:08] <raub> sarnold: it seems I am not the only one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/802081
[22:10] <sarnold> raub: aha. Perhaps you can revive that bug... it never got the information hallyn asked for..
[22:10] <xnox> raub: sarnold: I thought this was fixed in lvm2 and SRUed.
[22:11] <raub> sarnold: thing is that it only happens during install
[22:11]  * xnox just had a dejavu moment.
[22:11] <raub> xnox: had that happen to you before?
[22:12] <raub> sarnold: If I run the livecd, I can partition it to my heart's content
[22:12] <xnox> raub: well. I never had the qemu problem myself, but I remember uploading fixes to resolve an approx similar problem you are discussing here.
[22:12] <raub> But if I try to install it it will go boink
[22:12] <raub> xnox: sounds like they were not committed?
[22:15] <jamespage> adam_g, still around?
[22:19] <adam_g> jamespage: yes
[22:20] <jamespage> adam_g, with regards to the rewrite of the swift charms; how long do you think that might take?  I'm concerned about the quanlity of whats in the charm store
[22:21] <jamespage> seriously considering whether we should unpromulgate it
[22:23] <adam_g> jamespage: im working on it now, hope to have it up for review before EOD mon? i'd +1 that idea. i dont know how those canonical-specific changes got in there to begin with
[22:24] <jamespage> adam_g, me neither
[23:52] <Daviey> adam_g: updates published
[23:52] <Daviey> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/cloud-archive-changes/2012-December/thread.html
[23:52] <adam_g> Daviey: danke
[23:53] <Daviey> adam_g / zul: Just a reminder to upload with debuild -v, to have a fuller log


[17:39] <luna_> Hello i think the ubuntu Women meeting is still not a thing anymore?
[17:56] <luna_> guessing not
[18:00] <luna_> nope cancelled today too


[12:13] <mdz> jbailey: perhaps I can just merge LTSP's code to accomplish this into another hook script in ltsp-client
[01:12] <mdz> jbailey: 0.11 looks great, thanks
[06:27] <fabbione> morning
[06:36] <fabbione> mdz: can you be so kind to allow a few hours between X uploads?
[06:37] <fabbione> mdz: i understand that you need it, but it makes * FTBFS on other arches ;)
[06:56] <fabbione> .12 is out
[08:23] <mdz> fabbione: FTBFS how/why?
[09:00] <fabbione> mdz: sorry i meant that without the latest X other pkgs are FTBFS
[09:00] <fabbione> because some pkgs becomes uninstallable
[09:03] <mdz> fabbione: oh, arch: all deps on arch: any?
[09:05] <fabbione> mdz: that too.. it's also versioned Depends
[09:05] <fabbione> so until the latest X is built,part of gnome and kde becomes uninstallable
[09:06] <fabbione> and binaries for older versions are automatically REJECTED by katie (correctly)
[09:06] <fabbione> even if they did build fine
[09:07] <fabbione> mdz: btw it would be an extremely good idea to ask infinity/elmo/lamont to start building main over main on a regular base
[09:07] <fabbione> at least on one test arch
[09:07] <fabbione> specially becuase of the X split
[09:08] <fabbione> universe would be a plus
[09:20] <fabbione> later
[03:49] <zul> morning
[03:50] <lamont> fabbione: that's breezy-autotest, and it's pending archive existance
[03:54] <jbailey> Heya Chuck, LaMont.
[03:54] <lamont> morning jbailey
[03:55] <jbailey> Is breezy-autotest some sort of continuous autobuilder?
[03:55] <lamont> hrm... wife's gonna be mad. :-(
[03:55] <lamont> breezy-autotest is the 'rebuild the world and throw away the bits' archive
[03:55] <jbailey> Go go go!!
[03:56] <lamont> build using only breezy bits, bitch about anything that is now ftbfs
[03:56] <jbailey> If your wife gets mad at you, she might stop letting you come play.
[03:56] <lamont> killing comes more to mind....
[03:56] <jbailey> Cool.  Once it's done, will it jsut automatically start over again?
[03:56] <jbailey> 'bye!
[03:56] <lamont> dunno if elmo will cron the archive flush, or if he'll manually do it.
[03:57] <lamont> but yeah, over and over.
[03:57] <lamont> breezy-test will be a bit more benign, since we'll just use it to abuse one change at a time, or some such.
[03:58] <lamont> right.  gone.
[04:00] <lamont>  /bin/sh: hppa64-linux-objdump: command not found
[04:00] <lamont> fix binutils (or linux-source-2.6.12). kthxbye
[04:05] <jbailey> What does the mapping from i.86->i386 usually?
[04:05] <jbailey> That's the big that needs to be tweaked for hppa64.
[04:10] <jbailey> s/big/bit/
[04:26] <lamont> jbailey: note that there is a binutils-hppa64 as well - and I think that's what's failing, dunno thought
[04:26] <lamont> s/t$//
[04:27] <jbailey> Ah, cool.