[16:57] <Guest34495> what drivers should i use for my ati hd4670
[16:57] <LargePrime> topher_: what is the file name
[16:57] <SoulBlade> thiebaude - delete it and then reinstall it or use soemthign else?
[16:57] <thiebaude> SoulBlade: i use the flash from the adobe site
[16:57] <SoulBlade> ah ok
[16:57] <topher_> LargePrime: abi-2.6.28.-11-generic
[16:58] <thiebaude> SoulBlade: i deleted it from synaptic, i had flash already installed
[16:58] <rolo> klown:  yeah, all fine yesterday
[16:58] <klown> rolo:  this is just a guess, try to run ifconfig eth0 down
[16:58] <klown> then, ifconfig eth0 up
[16:58] <rolo> klown:  been fine for months.  it did say there were updates this morning, although no connection to download them, so I think maybe something midway through an update knackered it
[16:58] <rolo> cool, trying now.
[16:58] <yoman1> Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,5) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu
[16:58] <yoman1> .lst "... failed
[16:58] <yoman1> Error 12: Invalid device requested
[16:58] <LargePrime> topher_: you  typed "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" and got abi-2.6.28.-11-generic  ??????
[16:58] <mabus> so the display on my eeepc is broken. Trying to connect to wifi using it. I have eth0 connected to a router I have, and it got an address on dhcp that I have been able to ssh to now using another system. I'm used to using the gui to set the wifi connection, but when I set essid on wlan0 to the network I want to use, it fails to get an address when I run dhclient. any idea how to get my wifi connected on the command line?
[16:59] <topher_> LargePrime: Yeah
[16:59] <rolo> klown:  okay, done that
[16:59] <ascheel> Can somebody tell me how to disable the GUI on boot so it boots straight to a terminal?
[16:59] <yoman1> so that's the problem
[16:59] <klown> rolo:  see if u have an ip now
[16:59] <john> what drivers should i use for my ati hd4670? I'm running Ubuntu Jaunty
[16:59] <rolo> klown:   no IP still :(
[17:00] <yoman1> what shall I do?
[17:00] <bazhang> mabus, wlan0 shows up in ifconfig?
[17:00] <thiebaude> ascheel: can you ctrl alt f2 before you get to a boot screen?
[17:00] <mabus> bazhang: yes it does
[17:00] <LargePrime> topher_: you  typed "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"  note that MENU.LST is the file name...
[17:01] <yoman1> create a partition in front of the disk and install grub in there?
[17:01] <topher_> LargePrime: Yes.
[17:01] <klown> rolo:  im not sure how it works, never tried it.  but in a post on liuxquestions.org someone is suggesting dhclient -r as root
[17:01] <bazhang> mabus, this is encrypted or not (the AP)
[17:01] <LargePrime> topher_: it does not seem possiable to open a file named MENU>LST and get a file named anything else to open
[17:01] <mabus> bazhang: network is not encrypted
[17:02] <bastidrazor> ascheel, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198049   posts 4 and 5 should help
[17:02] <yoman1> so any idea?
[17:02] <Hylian> hello guys, i need help, i need to set up a partition of ntfs for a computer, through the ubuntu live cd, how do i gain access to a partition editor?
[17:02] <rolo> klown: tried it, no dice.
[17:02] <Hylian> er a partition of fat32
[17:02] <bazhang> mabus, what does sudo dhclient wlan0 return ; if it is hidden you may need to associate the ap
[17:02] <Hylian> !partition
[17:02] <Baba_B00ie> edbian, you still around the kb ?
[17:03] <klown> rolo:  im still looking.
[17:03] <topher_> LargePrime: I'm running Ubuntu off a disc.
[17:03] <yoman1> any idea?
[17:03] <topher_> LargePrime: I think that's the problem.
[17:03] <rolo> klown: thanks :) really appreciate your help.  I'm gonna try uninstalling virtualbox, as that has a network interface listed and I think it may have been one of the updates
[17:03] <Hylian> is gparted on the live cd?
[17:03] <switch10_> Hylian: it's under system on the live cd
[17:03] <Hylian> awesome thank you
[17:03] <LargePrime> topher_: close the file.  then file>open
[17:03] <mabus> bazhang: tries a few intervals and times out
[17:03] <switch10_> Hylian: ya but they call It partition editor
[17:04] <bazhang> mabus, does iwconfig see it
[17:04] <Baba_B00ie> edbian, i tried putting the acpi=off but it didn't work. it still only boots from battery if i hit keys on the kb but boots fine with a/c power
[17:04] <LargePrime> topher_: on the left choose filesystem
[17:04] <yoman1> any idea?
[17:04] <armon> Hi, all .Anyone know  how to list the shared libraries that a process has loaded, Including staticly linked and dynamically opened with dlopen()?
[17:04] <john2> I have the ATI HD4670. What drivers should I use for it? How do I obtain these drivers... etc..
[17:04] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 mabus here is how to configure from the command line
[17:04] <mabus> bazhang: yes, it was not associated and then I did iwconfig wlan0 ap any and it associated, but still cant dhcp
[17:04] <topher_> LargePrime: Then select 'boot'?
[17:05] <klown> rolo:  dumb question, but have you tried to restart?
[17:05] <LargePrime> topher_: yep
[17:05] <LargePrime> topher_: see grub
[17:05] <topher_> LargePrime: Nope, same thing.
[17:05] <bazhang> mabus, that is odd, sometimes takes me a couple of tries to connect
[17:05] <rolo> klown:  yeah, many times, will do another now though as just removed virutalbox
[17:05] <thiebaude> SoulBlade: is your flash ok, now?
[17:05] <Uqbar> hello, I'm running 9.04 on i386. I have an Intel graphics card and I'm using the "X-Updates PPA" and "xorg-edgers PPA" packages to work around 9.04's regression. I've run an upgrade today and now X segfaults at startup with the intel driver. is there a new set of packages to grab somewhere?
[17:05] <bazhang> mabus, and no mac filtering on?
[17:05] <LargePrime> topher_: read to me what it says on the left when you hit open
[17:05] <klown> rolo:  you have a router, correct?
[17:06] <keanu> I'm trying to get pulseaudio working with HDMI.  pavucontrol is recognizing the HDMI output, and the volume meter there is showing that sound should be going through it
[17:06] <LargePrime> topher_: We need to select the hard drive on the left
[17:06] <john2> I have the ATI HD4670. What drivers should I use for it? How do I obtain these drivers..?
[17:06] <LargePrime> topher_: I think we are in the wrong filesystem
[17:06] <keanu> however, i'm not getting any sound.   There are some good ones
[17:08] <LargePrime> topher_: on the menu bar choose places
[17:08] <bastidrazor> LargePrime, have him mount it to /media/mountpoint .. that way it'll show on the desktop and will be easier to get around in
[17:09] <bazhang> billy, gnome-look.org
[17:09] <topher_> LargePrime: Wow, I'm lost now.
[17:09] <hotdog003> Hello! How do I get NetworkManager to ignore eth0? I put it in /etc/network/interfaces, but NetworkManager still wants to manage it.
[17:09] <klown> rolo:  try ifconfig etho <IP_ADDRESS> (assuming your gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>)
[17:09] <LargePrime> bastidrazor you make it sound Like I know how to do that?
[17:10] <LargePrime> topher_: close gedit
[17:10] <LargePrime> topher_: dont save
[17:10] <bastidrazor> LargePrime, find the /dev/sdX name then simply sudo mount /dev/sdX /media/mountpoint .. of course you'll need to create the directory in /media
[17:10] <john2> what drivers should i use for my HD4670 INSTEAD Of the proprietory ones?
[17:10] <LargePrime> bastidrazor: or just have him open places
[17:10] <mandel> hello, does anyone know a good tutorial to make deb packages for python apps?
[17:11] <topher_> LargePrime: Sorry, closed out of IRC
[17:11] <panfistmx> i'm trying to use gdb to get a backtrace of a program crash but i'm not quite sure how. the program's website offers this suggestion but i'm still a little confused: http://gopchop.sourceforge.net/report_bugs.php
[17:11] <rolo_> well, reset the router
[17:11] <rolo_> lol
[17:11] <LargePrime> topher_: did you change the sixe of the install partition?
[17:11] <rolo_> klown: reset router as well.
[17:11] <LargePrime> topher_: did you change the size of the install partition?
[17:11] <topher_> LargePrime: I didn't change anything.
[17:11] <topher_> LargePrime: I deleted it.
[17:11] <klown> rolo:  did you get my ifconfig msg, or did u restart before that.
[17:12] <rolo_> klown: reset before that
[17:12] <LargePrime> topher_: and did not reclaim the space
[17:12] <klown> rolo:  try an ip outside of your router.
[17:12] <klown> rolo:  try ifconfig etho <IP_ADDRESS> (assuming your gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>)
[17:12] <topher_> LargePrime: I'm just going to reinstall Ubuntu
[17:12] <topher_> LargePrime: Way faster.
[17:12] <mabus> bazhang: even when I set IP manually, and go to ping <IP_ADDRESS>, I get a reply from the router eth0 is connected to that destination net is unreachable, even though I set the default gw to <IP_ADDRESS>, which is what wlan0 should be associated with
[17:13] <topher_> LargePrime: Any suggested builds..? LinuxMint is good from what I hear.
[17:13] <LargePrime> topher_: ok.  but did you reclaim the space when you deleted your partition?
[17:13] <dude> gnome-shell is really neat :)
[17:13] <topher_> LargePrime: Yes, I did.
[17:13] <LargePrime> topher_: you are in an ubuntu forum
[17:13] <dayo> which command-line mail tool to u use, for automated mails from your server services, e.g. your proxy sending a mail to you.
[17:13] <john2> what drivers should i use for my HD4670 INSTEAD Of the proprietory ones?
[17:13] <LargePrime> topher_: then you prolly want a reinstall anyway
[17:13] <rolo_> klown:  Oooh!  That gives me an address in ifconfig...!...
[17:14] <rolo_> Still no routing though.
[17:14] <rolo_> Can you see these messages?
[17:14] <LargePrime> yes
[17:14] <albertico> my wireless is not working on ubuntu 9.04... hp pavilion laptop
[17:14] <klown> rolo:  what is your gateway?  is it <IP_ADDRESS>?
[17:14] <albertico> anyone with this same problem?
[17:14] <Bala> hi everyone
[17:14] <LargePrime> albertico: do you have a wireless switch on the laptop
[17:14] <rolo_> klown: <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:15] <Bala> anyone help me plz
[17:15] <john2> what drivers should i use for my HD4670 INSTEAD Of the proprietory ones?
[17:15] <Uqbar> well, I just dpkg -i'ed the previous xserver-xorg-video-intel package
[17:15] <rolo_> klown: infact, with that ifconfig command I can set to a real IP
[17:15] <ILMAN> ftp client for ubuntu
[17:15] <LargePrime> !help|bala
[17:15] <albertico> LargePrime: yep, turned on
[17:15] <ILMAN> ftp client for ubuntu
[17:15] <rolo_> klown: but still no routing
[17:15] <ILMAN> ?
[17:15] <klown> rolo:  that was the point :P
[17:15] <disappearedng> Hey is it possible to remove an entry in an iterable?
[17:15] <LargePrime> albertico: turn off, wait, turn on.  are you curretly wired?
[17:15] <dude> rolo: netstat -r or route should say how your routes are , if not there you need to add one :)
[17:15] <klown> rolo:  try ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:16] <rolo_> okay.  done that
[17:16] <bazhang> !ftp > ILMAN
[17:16] <Ti-dev> hi, I'm struggling to build mesa 7.4.4 to fix a bug with my drivers and I'm encountering errors. I'm not really sure what it is...any help? Please...Thanks..
[17:16] <john2> what drivers should i use for my HD4670 INSTEAD Of the proprietory ones?
[17:16] <klown> rolo:  nothing, still?
[17:17] <rolo_> nothing
[17:17] <bazhang> john2, the OSS one
[17:17] <rolo_> what do I do with netstat?
[17:17] <albertico> LargePrime: I am currently wired through a lan cable
[17:17] <john2> bazhang how do i get it
[17:17] <john2> bazhang I tried Googlin
[17:17] <bazhang> john2, from synaptic package manager
[17:17] <john2> what do i look for
[17:17] <LargePrime> albertico: can you see the network aplet on the panel?
[17:17] <Bala> gnome-ppp problem connecting help me anyone....................
[17:17] <Ti-dev> anyone?
[17:17] <albertico> LargePrime: yes
[17:18] <ascheel> bastidrazor: so if I 'update-rc.d -f gdm remove' it should prevent me from getting to the GUI altogether?
[17:18] <john2> bazhang X.Org X server -- ATI Radeon display driver ?
[17:18] <LargePrime> albertico: when you click on it does it show wired and wireless
[17:18] <bazhang> john2, it will list it as the Open Source version Radeon
[17:18] <LargePrime> albertico: networks
[17:18] <albertico> LargePrime: only Wired... no Wireless section shown
[17:18] <bastidrazor> ascheel, it will stop gdm from loading yes. the only way to get to a GUI would be to manually start it.
[17:18] <klown> rolo:  did you try to ping anything yet?
[17:18] <Bala> anyone usnig gnome-ppp ?
[17:19] <ascheel> bastidrazor: that's exactly what I"m lokoing for.  :)  Thanks!
[17:19] <LargePrime> albertico: right click on it.  Wireless enabled?
[17:19] <bastidrazor> ascheel, cool, enjoy.
[17:19] <trashbarg> Ti-dev, you could start giving a litle bit more information
[17:19] <heatmzzr> when I am using Ubuntu and trying to open a file on my other drive, I right click on open with sudo and nothing happens?????????
[17:19] <albertico> LargePrime: the Wireless Enable option is not shown
[17:19] <diddy> Hi folks, I have a question. I installed mysql on Ubuntu Linux and also installed the media wiki software. The software is working fine and I can see the DB under /var/lib/mysql. However, when I start the mysql client and issue: SHOW DATABASES; then I can only see "DATABASE" and "information_schema". Why is that?
[17:20] <albertico> LargePrime: if I do a lshw, I see my wired interface and another interface as "network DISABLED"
[17:20] <rolo_> klown: cant ping anything, or the gateway still
[17:20] <john2> bazhang I don't see one
[17:20] <heatmzzr> when I am using Ubuntu and trying to open a file on my other drive, I right click on open with sudo and nothing happens? I can get to the drive but I cant open any files?
[17:20] <prince_jammys> diddy: try at #mysql too
[17:20] <klown> rolo:  for the hell of it, try to ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:20] <panfistmx> is there a program that can help me break up a vob file into separate chunks? gopchop crashes for me all the time
[17:21] <diddy> prince_jammys, I already did.
[17:21] <klown> er. try ping -c 3 <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:21] <rolo_> klown: replies fine
[17:21] <klown> sorry
[17:21] <klown> t
[17:21] <rolo_> find again
[17:21] <klown> rolo:  try ping -c 3 www.aol.com
[17:21] <trashbarg> john2: radeonhd(4)
[17:21] <ILMAN> i am looking
[17:21] <ILMAN> for a
[17:21] <ILMAN> good!
[17:21] <rolo_> no dns
[17:21] <ILMAN> client
[17:21] <FloodBot2> ILMAN: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <ILMAN> for Linux
[17:21] <klown> hm.
[17:21] <ILMAN> somthing like FLashFXP
[17:21] <panfistmx> ilman put your question on one line please
[17:21] <klown> rolo:  try ping -c 3 <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:21] <bazhang> ILMAN, don't ues the enter key after one word
[17:22] <ILMAN> okay
[17:22] <Bala> klown do u know how to use gnome-ppp
[17:22] <rolo_> dest host unreachable
[17:22] <john2> bazhang X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI r5xx, r6xx display driver
[17:22] <klown> Bala:  never tried.
[17:22] <ILMAN> i am looking for a good FTP client , like FLashFTP but for Linux
[17:22] <bazhang> ILMAN, and you read the bot link I sent you?
[17:22] <ILMAN> i found some ugly
[17:22] <rolo_> ILMAN: FileZilla
[17:22] <Bala> klown no one can solve this problem
[17:22] <agruman> i just installed another dvd reader in my system and ubuntu links /dev/dvd1 to this (/dev/sr0) and /dev/dvd to the old (/dev/sr1). Where would i go to change that order? So my new gets used as default by all apps using /dev/dvd?
[17:22] <ILMAN> yes
[17:22] <ILMAN> this are ugly
[17:23] <ILMAN> i need comfort!
[17:23] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: ok...umm...well to start with, I issue the command, "make linux-dri-x86". It ends with some error messages that I can't seem to figure out. It ends like so, dri2.o returns Error 1, subdirs Error 1, default Error1 and linux-dri-x86 Error2...This isn't the actual the full set of errors though...
[17:23] <bazhang> ILMAN, stop with the enter key please
[17:23] <dude> rolo_: do a sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:23] <danbhfive> !ftp | ILMAN
[17:23] <LargePrime> albertico: I think you are beyond me
[17:23] <LargePrime> albertico: update?
[17:23] <trashbarg> Ti-dev: Scroll up and try to find out the first error message.
[17:24] <ILMAN> what sould i chose?
[17:24] <ILMAN> i need your recommand not the bot onme
[17:24] <dude> rolo_: if you don't have the default route in your route command or 'netstat -r'
[17:24] <ILMAN> one*
[17:24] <prince_jammys> ILMAN: filezilla is pretty popular.
[17:24] <bazhang> ILMAN, choose one yourself.
[17:24] <rolo_> dude: done that, still dest host unreachable
[17:24] <LargePrime> albertico: what pavillion?
[17:24] <rolo_> netstat -r now shows that default route with my gateway correctly, plus two "empty" ones.
[17:24] <rolo_> as I have two cards
[17:24] <thinkertinker> hi all
[17:25] <albertico> LargePrime: hp pavilion dv9000
[17:25] <rolo_> genmask is all zeroes though on the default
[17:25] <LargePrime> albertico: what wireless card?  Broadcom?
[17:25] <klown> rolo:  what is in your /etc/network/interfaces
[17:26] <albertico> LargePrime: its an Intel
[17:26] <rolo_> auto lo
[17:26] <rolo_> iface lo inet loopback
[17:26] <LargePrime> albertico" did it ever work under ubuntu?
[17:26] <mipnamic> hi folk, I'm trying to recovery deleted files from an external 400gb hard disk, I tried to use "testdisk" and I saw my files but I don't know "how to get them back"... anyone had suggestions?
[17:26] <albertico> LargePrime: I don't know the exact model...
[17:26] <albertico> LargePrime: It did worked on 8.04
[17:27] <klown> rolo_: ok.
[17:27] <dude> klown: think networkmanager would say that the 'Device is not managed' if there was something in interfaces. From my own exp.
[17:27] <dude> as opposed to 'Disconnected'
[17:27] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: dri2.c:117: error: ‘xDRI2ConnectReq’ has no member named ‘window’. Well that's the first line that starts with "error:" :D
[17:27] <FreeFull> How do I set the default browser to Firefox 3.5?
[17:27] <klown> dude: I'm wondering if its the second card, but rolo_ said its been working for months.
[17:28] <ILMAN> 10ס
[17:28] <ILMAN> 10x
[17:28] <ILMAN> now i have problem
[17:28] <ILMAN> with IRC server
[17:28] <edbian> FreeFull: System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[17:28] <FloodBot2> ILMAN: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <bazhang> FreeFull, system preferences preferred applications choose shiretoko
[17:28] <klown> rolo_: is the dns server correct?
[17:28] <rolo_> they're both onboard interfaces
[17:28] <rolo_> doesnt listit
[17:28] <LargePrime> albertico:  sorry.  I have nothing more.  you need better help than I have to give
[17:28] <ILMAN> i cant see hebrew on other IRC SERVER
[17:28] <FreeFull> edbian: I'm using fluxbox, not gnome
[17:28] <thiebaude> when is firefox 3.5 released for ubuntu?
[17:28] <rolo_> On my laptop irt shows gateway as the DNS server
[17:28] <edbian> FreeFull: Than I have no idea.
[17:28] <dude> well ifconfig would say what MAC-ADRESS it has, and the mac says what model it is :)
[17:28] <rolo_> But presumable that wouldn't stop me pinging the gateway
[17:28] <klown> rolo_: doesnt list dns?
[17:28] <bazhang> thiebaude, in the repos now, called shiretoko when installed
[17:28] <ILMAN> i cant see hebrew on other IRC SERVER
[17:29] <thiebaude> bazhang: thanks
[17:29] <rolo_> klown: ifconfig doedsnt list DNS
[17:29] <heatmzzr> What is the command to open a file browser as root?
[17:29] <albertico> LargePrime: thanks anyway!  :)
[17:29] <rolo_> on my broken one
[17:29] <edbian> heatmzzr: gksu
[17:29] <maxagaz_> how to use tcpdump ? each time i try it, it returns : tcpdump: no suitable device found
[17:29] <dude> rolo_: oh yeah, do you have anything in /etc/resolv.conf? :)
[17:29] <edbian> heatmzzr: gksu is for opening graphical apps as root.
[17:29] <klown> rolo_: its difficult to test, cus im using wicd
[17:29] <agruman> anyone here know what program creates the /dev/dvd symlink dynamically?
[17:29] <Ti-dev> trashbarg?
[17:30] <edbian> heatmzzr: "gksu nautilus" will open the file manager as root :)
[17:30] <FreeFull> How do I set the default browser to Firefox 3.5? (running fluxbox, not gnome)
[17:30] <gartral> maxagaz_: tcpdump eth0 (for wired) wan0 (wireless)
[17:30] <trashbarg> Ti-dev: There is some guy experiencing the same problem: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=501627
[17:30] <coz_> maxagaz,   http://openmaniak.com/tcpdump.php
[17:30] <rolo_> dude:  resolv.conf just has a comment line "Generated by networkmanager"and nothing else
[17:30] <dude> :)
[17:30] <edbian> agruman: udev does :)
[17:30] <heatmzzr> edbian: thanks
[17:30] <danbhfive> FreeFull: try a symlink?
[17:30] <edbian> heatmzzr: NP
[17:30] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: cool..thanks dude, i'll check it out..
[17:30] <Spad-XIII> gartral: shouldn't that be wlan0 ?
[17:30] <dude> rolo_: put in  <IP_ADDRESS> :)
[17:31] <FreeFull> danbhfive: Hmm, I will have to remove firefox 3.0 but it should work
[17:31] <rolo_> in resolv.conf?
[17:31] <agruman> edbian: ah ok, thanks alot, now i at least know what documentation to read :)
[17:31] <dude> yeah
[17:31] <gartral> Spad-XIII: Ive seen both... on some systems, both works :)
[17:31] <thiebaude> FreeFull: applications>system>admistration>gnome control center>preferred appllications, i dont know if you have that
[17:31] <dude> rolo_: it's your dns-list
[17:31] <edbian> agruman: Good luck! :)
[17:31] <FreeFull> thiebaude: I said fluxbox, not gnome
[17:31] <Spad-XIII> gartral: ah, i only have wlan0 and not wan0 .. and also wireless/wired networking trouble :)
[17:31] <thiebaude> FreeFull: i use openbox
[17:31] <dude> rolo_: oh you didn't get connection yet maybe? :) did you manage to ping your gateway?
[17:31] <rolo_> dude: done
[17:31] <rolo_> cant ping gatewayl, no
[17:32] <gartral> I seem too have "lost" the rotation setting for my gfz card (NVidia XFX GeForce 6200)
[17:32] <dude> :)
[17:32] <gartral> I seem too have "lost" the rotation setting for my gfx card (NVidia XFX GeForce 6200)
[17:32] <ianessex> just installed ubuntu to give it ago and im having trouble conecting wirelessly any ideas guys
[17:32] <gartral> ianessex: check the restricted drivers
[17:32] <coz_> maxagaz,  also run that as root  or   sudo tcpdump
[17:32] <maxagaz_> gartral, i still get this same message
[17:33] <klown> rolo_: add nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> to /etc/resolv.conf
[17:33] <coz_> maxagaz,   sudo tcpdump -v
[17:33] <gartral> maxagaz_: sudo tcpdump eth0/wlan0 isnt working?
[17:33] <dude> oh yeah, nameserver ;)
[17:33] <ianessex> hoe do i do that id the driver is restricted does that mean i cannot use my existing wireless set up to connect
[17:33] <gartral> coz hee needs too specify a device, IIRC
[17:33] <mobi-sheep> FreeFull: Quit breaking Firefox.
[17:33] <coz_> man tcpdump
[17:33] <coz_> darn
[17:34] <rolo_> okay, done
[17:34] <gartral> !wireless | ianessex
[17:34] <klown> dude: i had to pull up my /etc/resolv.conf to remember that :X
[17:34] <maxagaz_> gartral, thanks :)
[17:34] <FreeFull> mobi-sheep: How am I breaking it?
[17:34] <rolo_> still not shjowing anything in ifconfig for DNS...
[17:34] <velcroshooz> is cpu scaling broken in 2.6.28-13? running inxi or other hardware spec apps with 2.6.28-11 showed processor clocked at 1400 mhz to 2700 mhz .. now in 2.6.28-13, it just shows 1400 mhz, what gives?
[17:34] <ILMAN> i want to check
[17:34] <klown> try ifconfig eth0 down
[17:34] <ILMAN> if i am the root
[17:34] <ILMAN> !!
[17:34] <klown> then up.
[17:34] <mobi-sheep> FreeFull: ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
[17:34] <bazhang> !enter | ILMAN
[17:34] <Gevz> hi all
[17:34] <mobi-sheep> FreeFull: Change the symlink for firefox.
[17:34] <FreeFull> mobi-sheep: I already did  sudo ln -s /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 /usr/bin/firefox
[17:34] <ILMAN> pts/1
[17:34] <mobi-sheep> FreeFull: Alrigh. :>
[17:34] <rolo_> done
[17:34] <rolo_> no joy
[17:34] <Spad-XIII> hmm.. i just installed the linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-13-generic and now i have a wired-network connection again ... go figure?
[17:35] <klown> rolo_: i hate your computer :P
[17:35] <mipnamic> lol
[17:35] <gartral> I seem too have "lost" the rotation setting for my gfx card (NVidia XFX GeForce 6200) it used too have a section in the NVidia drivers... but now It's gone
[17:35] <rolo_> same at the mo!!!
[17:35] <rolo_> It was all fine for ages.
[17:35] <rolo_> I dont get what could have happened.
[17:35] <danbhfive> Spad-XIII: LBM has drivers in it
[17:35] <klown> rolo_: can u get to your router config, and verify that your dns is <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:35] <gartral> !enter | rolo
[17:35] <rolo_> Its fine on my laptop
[17:35] <rolo_> Which Im using now with jaunty
[17:35] <FreeFull> mobi-sheep: The only reason I had 3.0 still installed was some problem with flash that was caused by experimental GTK libs and is fixed now
[17:35] <ILMAN> when i am writing on terminal who am i it returns [mynick] pts/1 [date][time] (:0.0)
[17:35] <Spad-XIII> and my wiresless works as well.. for the first time !?
[17:35] <ILMAN> am i the root?
[17:36] <rolo_> alas, I think I need to reboot to my windows partition.  i normally just use it for music, but I need to cram for an interview tomorrow and time is running out
[17:36] <Spad-XIII> danbhfive: what do you mean? i'm still new to this stuff :) took me a while to figure out how to get the package without a network connection on the ubuntu-machine
[17:36] <rolo_> I just dont get whta could have hjappened.  must have been an update.
[17:36] <lomez> hi all- i installed mythubuntu on a desktop and everything is working great after some configuration and stuff, but im getting a SMART warning when i bootup. does anyone know a good disk imaging program where i can copy mythubuntu (and grub) to another HD?
[17:36] <gartral> ILMAN: sudo -s if it accept your password, ou may run as root
[17:36] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone here familiar with ispconfig or knows where i can get help with it?
[17:36] <klown> rolo_: do me one favor before u leave for good.  try to restart again
[17:36] <rolo_> THanks loads for your help though you two, it's wikkid of you to help.
[17:36] <rolo_> okay, doing now...
[17:36] <gartral> !firefox
[17:36] <tanath> "Hardware Drivers" doesn't see my video card driver.
[17:37] <Baba_B00ie> does ubuntu 810 and 904 have a acpi bug ?
[17:37] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:37] <gartral> !firefox-3.5 > gartral
[17:37] <tanath> i'm following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI to try fglrx
[17:37] <danbhfive> Spad-XIII: erm, I'm just telling you whats in the package (at least as far as I know).  All drivers in ubuntu are loaded via linux modules
[17:37] <tanath> but nothing shows up in "Hardware Drivers"
[17:37] <edbian> Baba_B00ie: Sorry about missing your message earlier.  There is no known bug.  Is this an old computer?
[17:37] <hxc__> hey! can somebody tell me, is Ubuntu 9.04 server GUI?
[17:37] <lstarnes> hc: no
[17:37] <mobi-sheep> hxc__: No.
[17:37] <rFalk> does compiz-fusion work on xubuntu?
[17:37] <edbian> hxc__: No
[17:37] <bazhang> tanath, you have the radeonhd card?
[17:37] <tanath> i'm having insane graphical glitches
[17:37] <lstarnes> hc: sorry, wrong nick
[17:37] <hxc__> ok, thats sad
[17:37] <edbian> hxc__: But you can install the OS and add a GUI
[17:38] <hxc__> o
[17:38] <tanath> bazhang, ati radeon 9800se
[17:38] <hxc__> how can i add?
[17:38] <bazhang> tanath, is that radeonhd?
[17:38] <lstarnes> hxc__: in most cases, you shouldn't use a GUI on a server for performance reasons
[17:38] <hxc__> what way i need to look?
[17:38] <Baba_B00ie> edbian, that's ok, and no. it's a dual core amd 64. to help ya better, it's hp dv6000 series
[17:38] <Spad-XIII> danbhfive: ok .. it's just weird that my wifi works all of a sudden .. i've been trying to get this to work for about a week .. installing the backports-modules seems to have done the trick
[17:38] <tanath> bazhang, i don't think so
[17:38] <dude> rolo_: for the fun of it just do a 'lshw | less' and then type /eth0 and press enter
[17:39] <mobi-sheep> hxc__: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[17:39] <lstarnes> hxc__: all packages available for the desktop edition are also available on the server edition
[17:39] <dude> rolo_: if you're still in linux
[17:39] <bazhang> tanath, if not then the non-proprietary driver is the only viable option for Jaunty
[17:39] <lstarnes> mobi-sheep: ubuntu-desktop might be a little heavy for a server
[17:39] <trashbarg> why would someone want to use ubuntu as a server?
[17:39] <tanath> bazhang, there are _no_ visible options
[17:39] <dude> rolo_: just to check that the card hasn't change or something
[17:39] <velcroshooz> is cpu scaling broken in 2.6.28-13? running inxi or other hardware spec apps with 2.6.28-11 showed processor clocked at 1400 mhz to 2700 mhz .. now in 2.6.28-13, it just shows 1400 mhz, what gives?
[17:39] <bazhang> tanath, in hardware drivers?
[17:39] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:39] <tanath> bazhang, yes
[17:40] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: according to the link you sent, it's something to do with xorg. I use Jaunty Jackelope which in turn uses xorg 1.6...required is 1.5. The dude with the prob seemed to have enabled "dri2" at compilation. To make a long story short, do I have to rebuild my xorg server??
[17:40] <danbhfive> Spad-XIII: oh yeah, and I think its better to say that it contains updated drivers, so you may have gotten an update that had a key bug fix or something
[17:40] <rolo_> dude: okay done that...
[17:40] <maxd> hello guild :>
[17:40] <mobi-sheep> lstarnes: Err. We should opt to tell him to use different kernels.
[17:40] <edbian> Baba_B00ie: Perhaps there is a bug.  What exactly is the error again?  Remind me of your situation.  I saw that the "acpi=off" option didn't work.
[17:40] <dude> rolo_: was the card correct?
[17:40] <rolo_> dude:  logical name: eth0.
[17:40] <rolo_> dude: looks like it
[17:40] <tanath> bazhang, but since i can barely read here due to the graphical glitches on my screen, i need to try fglrx
[17:40] <mipnamic> hi folk, I'm trying to recovery deleted files from an external 400gb hard disk [fs: ext3], I tried to use "testdisk" and I can see my files but I don't know "how to get them back"... suggestions?
[17:40] <Baba_B00ie> edbian, ok to private msg ?
[17:40] <Klowny> ok well i tried ubuntu on my mom's computer, it's just as slow as windows, i think something is up with her hardware, her hardware is better than mine but her machine makes a loud buzzing noise
[17:40] <edbian> Baba_B00ie: Absolutely
[17:41] <rolo_> netstat -r is blank again since reboot.
[17:41] <rolo_> I gotta call it a day now.  Thanks for your help chaps.
[17:41] <klown> good luck rolo_
[17:41] <dude> rolo_: yeah, networkmanager doesn't fix it somehow
[17:41] <Spad-XIII> danbhfive: sounds fun .. i'm just glad that it finally works :) reading almost hundreds of old forum posts (2005 - 2007) didn't help .. reading some pages on http://wireless.kernel.org got me further .. hehe, how ironic
[17:41] <edbian> mipnamic: try reading "man testdisk" :)
[17:41] <lensyap1011> Whoops I mounted something multiple times... does that matter?
[17:41] <rolo_> anyway I can apply the updates without a network connection?
[17:41] <dude> rolo_: check over the syslog next time, see if anything wierd pops out
[17:41] <Klowny> woah klown lol
[17:41] <Klowny> thought i was the only one that used the name klown on the net lol
[17:42] <klown> klowny:  no, not at all, theres tons.
[17:42] <Spad-XIII> might be a nice additional !command perhaps? !wireless .. try installing the linux-backports-modules-jaunty ..
[17:42] <Klowny> go figure lol
[17:42] <dude> rolo_: the command 'sudo tail -f /var/log/*' is kinda good for debugging
[17:43] <Klowny> anyone use frostwire on ubuntu?
[17:43] <dude> rolo_: yeah it's possible , just do apt-get upgrade, then copy that list, download the packages and install them
[17:43] <Klowny> my sister uses it so i need to get it working correctly
[17:43] <rolo_> thanks
[17:43] <fjordlord_> hello how do i choose a file to open automatically with a specific program?
[17:43] <maxd> hwo do i access the squid-cgi interface ? :)
[17:43] <tanath> bazhang, i take it there should be something there?
[17:43] <dude> rolo_: just use a usb-stick, copying the text-file with packages, downloading them with apt-get on the other comp, then you could use nautilus to install them later on
[17:44] <danbhfive> !frostwire > Klowny
[17:44] <trashbarg> Ti-dev: If you dont get a packages with the options you want enabled, you have to compile it by yourself
[17:44] <gartral> !bash > ILMAN
[17:44] <klown> the one thing thats bothering me about that problem, is you dont normally see a gateway ending in .254
[17:44] <dude> rolo_: think it's apt-get download <packages>
[17:44] <lensyap1011> lo loh well i umounted it now... hopefully my data will be fine. it's not that important anyway
[17:44] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone here familiar with ispconfig or knows where i can get help with it?
[17:44] <bazhang> tanath, for the fglrx? you can try it, but from all accounts unless you have the radeonhd it will be very problematic at best
[17:44] <klown> normally it starts at the beginning of the iptable.
[17:44] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter, ifconfig? what is ispconfig
[17:44] <tanath> bazhang, things are very problematic right now >.<
[17:44] <fjordlord_> for example i want AUDICIOUS for mp3s now it opens with Movie Player per automatique
[17:45] <Klowny> thanks for that dan but that doesn't help me, already been to that lol
[17:45] <trashbarg> Ti-dev: How do you come to compiling the module?
[17:45] <tanath> bazhang, my screen is fuzzy
[17:45] <bazhang> tanath, true, but the open sources one is less problematic at this point
[17:45] <tanath> bazhang, and text quickly becomes unreadable
[17:45] <Pirate_Hunter> bazhang: http://www.ispconfig.org/index.htm
[17:45] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: yeah, I think I got it...I think I missed an option for "./configure"..I'll try it now..thanks..I'm following this guide: http://www.mesa3d.org/autoconf.html
[17:45] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter, what are you trying to do
[17:45] <danbhfive> Klowny: are you using the sun-java?
[17:45] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: I'm sorry, didn't quite get you?
[17:45] <Klowny> yes frostwire runs just fine
[17:45] <bazhang> fjordlord_, in gnome?
[17:46] <fjordlord_> bazhang, yes
[17:46] <klown> rolo_: if u have free time later, verify your ip, and gateway.  and make the necessary changes to /etc/resolv.conf
[17:46] <Klowny> but when i pick the saved folder, i want it to be the music folder that comes on ubuntu but it keeps saying unable to
[17:46] <dude> rolo_: well it wasn't that easy :) apt-get -d install <packages>, the will end up in /var/apt/cache i think
[17:46] <bazhang> fjordlord_, system preferences preferred applications can set it?
[17:46] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:46] <neosupport> hola chantas
[17:46] <trashbarg> Ti-dev, you dont want to compile it for no reason. Maybe there is an easier way to solve you problem?
[17:46] <bazhang> neosupport, #ubuntu-es por espanol
[17:46] <fjordlord_> bazhang, doesnt work happens nothing althogh its in there
[17:46] <Pirate_Hunter> bazhang: I ahve compiled it succesfully but i cant login from browser says connection refused or there might be a problem with the network, second time compiling while following instructions from their homesite
[17:47] <rolo_> klown/dude: thanks - I will pick this up later.  Not going back to Windows as I got everything just right on Ubuntu.  Just very frustrating for it to suddenly break, and really badly timed in that I need my machine badly today.  Hope I can fix it.
[17:47] <fjordlord_> maybe need reboot
[17:47] <PSPUbuntu> im having trouble with qpsp manager found here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PSP
[17:47] <PSPUbuntu> i cant get it to compie the program
[17:47] <klown> rolo_: I understand, if you still have the problem tomorrow, we will continue :)
[17:47] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: not really, I'm trying to get 3D accel for the infamous mach64...no other way it seems...I used a different fix once. It worked but was for an older v. of ubuntu so it wasn't really successfull...
[17:48] <bazhang> fjordlord_, right click mp3 file choose properties open with choose audacious
[17:48] <PSPUbuntu> any 1 who could help me?
[17:48] <Klowny> "Invalid folder for saving files. Please use another folder or revert to the default." and this is just the regular music folder that comes with ubuntu fresh install
[17:48] <fjordlord_> ahhhhhhh
[17:48] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:48] <edbian> Klowny: What program?
[17:48] <fjordlord_> thanks alot bazhang !
[17:49] <Klowny> frostwire edbian
[17:49] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter, what does ispconfig do? ie what is your end goal here
[17:49] <edbian> Klowny: Have you tried other folders
[17:49] <Klowny> trying to make it so it downloads musci straight to my music folder so i don't have to copy from it's default to my music folder
[17:49] <Klowny> hmm edbian just the default let me try a different one here
[17:49] <edbian> Klowny: Ok let me know
[17:49] <Uqbar> I've just installed libprojectm2 and libvisual-projectm. now how do I use it?
[17:50] <Klowny> ok just tried Music, documents, and pictures edbian all say the same thing
[17:50] <Klowny> unable to save there yet i can copy and paste files there
[17:50] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:50] <Acorn> how can I get my wireless network card working in ubuntu?
[17:50] <edbian> Klowny: Yeah.  You could let frostwire have it's way and just create a soft symlink. Do you know what that is? (or how to make one?)
[17:50] <c_nick> hi
[17:50] <Klowny> lol edbian no man
[17:51] <frostburn> Klowny, what program are you running that can't write to that folder? it sounds like a permissions issue
[17:51] <Klowny> i just need this fixed for my sister because all she does is music and i don't want her mad at me for deleting windows lol
[17:51] <Klowny> frostwire frostburn
[17:51] <edbian> Klowny: This will work :) Ok tell frostwire it can use the folder it wants.
[17:51] <Klowny> ok i just told it out loud that edbian
[17:51] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:51] <Pirate_Hunter> bazhang: i want my server to be setup with it, supposed to make life easier controlling sites, changing file on apache/sql etc one of those all purpose application
[17:51] <Klowny> i'm a noob lol
[17:51] <edbian> Klowny: :P
[17:52] <frostburn> Klowny, can you run it in a terminal and output any errors it might display?
[17:52] <Klowny> sure if i knew how frost
[17:52] <mabus> how can I use NetworkManager on the command line?
[17:52] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter, not sure about 3rd party sites/apps; may be consider something from the repos for that
[17:52] <neosupport> dice chespi que estan todas impriendo
[17:52] <bazhang> neosupport, English here #ubuntu-es for espanol
[17:52] <liveCD> hi,  how can i edit sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    using  live CD
[17:53] <SuspectZero> whts a good defragmenter for ntfs file systems that i can run in ubuntu?
[17:53] <neosupport> #ubuntu-es
[17:53] <bazhang> SuspectZero, do it from windows
[17:53] <bazhang> neosupport, /join #ubuntu-es
[17:53] <SuspectZero> bazhang, cant i do it from ubuntu?
[17:53] <frostburn> Klowny, open a terminal, applications > accessories > terminal     then type frostwire
[17:53] <edbian> Klowny: What is the name the folder that frostwire accepts?
[17:53] <danbhfive> SuspectZero: all windows defragers require windows
[17:53] <Acorn> what steps can I take to get my wireless network card working?
[17:53] <SuspectZero> danbhfive, ah kk. thanks
[17:53] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:54] <Klowny> um /home/bobby/FrostWire/Saved is accepted for saving in frostwire no others that i can find
[17:54] <Pirate_Hunter> bazhang, i would but i already spent plenty of time on this do want to fix it so I can test it as well
[17:54] <liveCD> pls help.  hi,  how can i edit  /boot/grub/menu.lst    using  live CD
[17:54] <th0r> liveCD: you can't
[17:54] <liveCD> really
[17:55] <Klowny> btw it didn't give me any errors in the terminal though it gave that error inside frostwire
[17:55] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:55] <edbian> Klowny: Ok go to that folder in nautilus.  Right click on it and hit "make link"
[17:55] <liveCD> i changed it and now i cannot boot  ubuntu
[17:55] <th0r> liveCD: you need to have linux installed on a hard drive to edit menu.lst
[17:55] <Klowny> wait edbian what will that do? lol
[17:55] <edbian> Klowny: It will make a symlink.  Similar to a "shortcut" in windows
[17:56] <liveCD> th0r:  i have had already linux installed.  i just changed menu.lst  and now  i wanna edit it again with livecd
[17:56] <shivek> How can I reconfigure my dyndns host using terminal
[17:56] <Klowny> edbian ok i did that
[17:56] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:56] <switch10_> liveCD:  do you mean you have an install and you are using the live cd to change it?
[17:56] <edbian> Klowny: Now place that folder in /music (the link not the original)
[17:56] <liveCD> switch10_:  exactly
[17:56] <Klowny> ok i did
[17:57] <trashbarg> Ti-dev, sorry, i cant help you with that, but you should ask at #xorg. Comiling the server isnt a good idea, imo ubuntu is not the best system if you are about building your own binaries. But you could give it a try ;)
[17:57] <mabus> k so how do I use NetworkManager on the command line guise?
[17:57] <edbian> Now if you place a file in /home/bobby/frostwire/saved a shortcut to that file will show up in /home/bobby/music.
[17:57] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: hey I think I got it...I missed out some additional operators to include with "./configure" especially, "--with-driver=dri"
[17:57] <switch10_> liveCD  boot the live cd, mount your drive, and you're good to go
[17:57] <switch10_> hard drive
[17:57] <Klowny> that doesn't help me edbian because my sister burns music
[17:57] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: hehe yeah, but the xorg dudes are rather rude..
[17:57] <Klowny> and she will have everything messed up lol
[17:57] <edbian> Klowny: Frostwire is used to download music
[17:57] <Klowny> yes i know
[17:58] <Ti-dev> at least one or two of those tin's were..
[17:58] <edbian> Klowny: Maybe I don't understand your problem well enough.  Please explain
[17:58] <velcroshooz> is cpu scaling broken in 2.6.28-13? running inxi or other hardware spec apps with 2.6.28-11 showed processor clocked at 1400 mhz to 2700 mhz .. now in 2.6.28-13, it just shows 1400 mhz, what gives?
[17:58] <Klowny> perhaps a screenshot would be better edbian?
[17:58] <liveCD> switch10_:   but when i tyeeped this to terminal    sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    it shows just a blank page
[17:58] <edbian> Klowny: Maybe. Send me one :)
[17:58] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:59] <edbian> RocketLauncher: Are you using compiz?
[17:59] <RocketLauncher> edbian nope
[17:59] <RocketLauncher> edbian well i don't think...
[17:59] <C-S-B> velcroshooz: i think theres a module you may have to load..
[17:59] <edbian> RocketLauncher: Then you can't drag windows onto other workspaces
[17:59] <linuxguy2009> Is there any apps in the repos that can record or download streaming video from places like hulu.com etc?
[17:59] <RocketLauncher> edbian i mean dual screening
[17:59] <C-S-B> velcroshooz: i had trouble before, but i ended up compiling my own kernel...
[18:00] <edbian> RocketLauncher: Oohh!!  Then I have no idea lol.  Never set up a dual screen :(
[18:00] <liveCD> so how can i be super user  with live cd
[18:00] <RocketLauncher> awww
[18:00] <RocketLauncher> :(
[18:00] <switch10_> liveCD:  because you are trying to access the boot list from the cd.  you need to change the directory to your hard disk with the installation on it
[18:00] <Spad-XIII> is there a way to have tasque start up automatically and minimized ? i have the first step covered (via system -> prefs -> startup applications)
[18:00] <linuxguy2009> liveCD: with livecd you are super user.
[18:00] <Klowny> trying to send it to you edbian
[18:00] <velcroshooz> C-S-B: that would be extremely annoying, as cpu scaling worked out of the box in -11
[18:00] <Klowny> says waiting for transfer to begin
[18:00] <joel1> liveCD: you have to cd into your hard drive
[18:01] <liveCD> switch10_:   please  say me how can i change directory then
[18:01] <edbian> Klowny: I see it.  Mine says "starting..."
[18:01] <switch10_> cd= change directory
[18:01] <Klowny> odd let me just upload it to flickr lol
[18:01] <Ti-dev> velcroshooz: what version of ubuntu are you using? you *could* try a newer kernel?
[18:01] <edbian> ok
[18:01] <Ti-dev> you get em in *.deb format
[18:01] <C-S-B> velcroshooz: im not he be all and end of all of cpu scaling knowledge, have you tried to see if the cpu-scaler applet works?
[18:01] <edbian> Klowny: Still at 0% for me.  It's probably my network (I'm at work).
[18:02] <switch10_> liveCD  you cant just do it from the gui?
[18:02] <shivek> I have converted my pc into a web server. Now how to add files and all ?
[18:02] <om26er> how to calculate the write speed of a drive can any1 help me with that
[18:02] <velcroshooz> Ti-dev: 9.04, this is the new kernel im having problems with. newest in synaptic i should say.
[18:02] <switch10_> it will be easier for you
[18:02] <Spad-XIII> hmm.. i should read slower .. minimized -> hide/hidden.. starting up with --quiet makes it hidden at startup ..
[18:02] <Ti-dev> velcroshooz, you mean 2.6.28-13-generic?
[18:02] <velcroshooz> Ti-dev: correct
[18:02] <liveCD> switch10_:   in file system i enter the folder boot  and  then i cannot find any folder  named  grub
[18:03] <Ti-dev> you *can* try, 2.6.30 :D
[18:03] <om26er> !write
[18:03] <Out_Cold> Acorn, did you fix your wifi?
[18:03] <om26er> !speed
[18:03] <edbian> liveCD: Do you know how to mount a partition or what a partition is?
[18:03] <om26er> !disk
[18:03] <velcroshooz> Ti-dev: yeah im going to have to compile it from scratch though arent I? I mean its within my knowledge but man all that just to get cpu scaling back when 2.6.28-11 is was running fine? ugh
[18:03] <om26er> plz tell me how to test the write speed of a drive
[18:03] <liveCD> edbian:  yes but what is the connection
[18:04] <switch10_> liveCD  cd into /boot then type "ls"
[18:04] <switch10_> on your hard drive
[18:04] <Out_Cold> off-topic but funny as heck... http://xkcd.com/149/
[18:04] <Ti-dev> velcroshooz: no I mean the debian one
[18:04] <dust_t> hello i want to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 but / dir needs to have 2GB free space. How do I make free space in / ?
[18:04] <velcroshooz> Ti-dev: hows that? adding a debian repo?
[18:04] <Ti-dev> you just install it by typing, "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" after navigating to the dir you downloaded
[18:04] <switch10_> liveCD  ls = list
[18:04] <genii> !info bonnie++ | om26er
[18:04] <RocketLauncher> SOMEONE SAYS the reason a window doesn't drag all the way to the other screen (it gets stuck and doesn't go any further), is because of my window manager. Is this true? I'm running Jaunty, I just got xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd, my card is an ATI HD4670
[18:04] <Ti-dev> gimme a sec I'll give you the links to download?
[18:05] <edbian> liveCD: you are looking at the filesystem on the CD.  You have to mount the filesystem on the harddrive to change it :)
[18:05] <switch10_> it will list everything in the directory
[18:05] <h0dges> hi, how do i alter the number of increments in the brightness popup in gnome?
[18:06] <switch10_> liveCD  just boot into the gui????  it will be way easier for you
[18:06] <liveCD> edbian:  's filesystem in computer folder  belong to livecd
[18:06] <RocketLauncher> help my superduper is broken
[18:06] <Ti-dev> I use "axel", it's a high speed downloader..."axel -a -n 10 <url>" is the syntax I use...(-a, easier to understand output, -n, number of connections, 10 will divide one file to 10 parts, hence a faster download)
[18:06] <RocketLauncher> SOMEONE SAYS the reason a window doesn't drag all the way to the other screen (it gets stuck and doesn't go any further), is because of my window manager. Is this true? I'm running Jaunty, I just got xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd, my card is an ATI HD4670
[18:06] <edbian> liveCD: If you're running of the liveCD then yes
[18:07] <Ti-dev> you can install that through the repos, "sudo apt-get install axel"
[18:07] <liveCD> edbian:   how can i reach my real menu.lst  :D
[18:07] <CoolShorts> Hi all, I'm having a graphical problem with dual screen:  http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5526/visualdualerror.png
[18:07] <CoolShorts> I'm using compiz effects and the wallpaper just 'ends' there
[18:07] <CoolShorts> really odd
[18:07] <edbian> liveCD: in a terminal type "fdisk -l" to list all of the partitions available
[18:08] <liveCD> switch10_:   in gui  how can i reach my real  menu.lst
[18:08] <deeflex> Hi! I wish to have two keyboard layouts, but the problem is that my alt-gr key stops working after adding the second one in 'keyboard layots'.
[18:08] <ltcabral> how to i change owner of a directory and everything inside it?
[18:08] <mezquitale> how do you @#$! record yourself using your laptop????  I can hear myself on the mic but I can't record myself
[18:08] <switch10_> liveCD  mount the hard drive, then use nautilis to find it
[18:08] <th0r> ltcabral: chown -R
[18:08] <switch10_> easy
[18:08] <ltcabral> th0r: thanks
[18:09] <switch10_> liveCD  the hard drive might even mount itself, i cant remember
[18:10] <Ti-dev> velcroshooz: here are the url's...note that these are three different packages... http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/linux-headers-2.6.30-020630-generic_2.6.30-020630_i386.deb http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/linux-headers-2.6.30-020630_2.6.30-020630_all.deb http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/linux-image-2.6.30-020630-generic_2.6.30-020630_i386.deb
[18:10] <liveCD> switch10_:  ok perfect, i found it  and  do it   but  it says  You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file
[18:10] <RocketLauncher> When I DRAG a WINDOW to my OTHER SCREEN, the left side of that window gets stuck, doesn't move any further to my other screen.. I really want this to work. Someone told me it was my WM, which is Gnome. Is this true?
[18:10] <kmh27> how do I clean my ext3 devices that apparently are 'unclean' after a power failure?  I'm trying fsck /dev/sda4 but get a 'no such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda4/ message and info about superblock
[18:10] <switch10_> sudo
[18:11] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: ok my first prob was with "make linux-dri-x86" now it's the "make" command that follows "./configure"
[18:11] <CoolShorts> Anyone?
[18:11] <liveCD> switch10_:  but  you said im super user with live cd
[18:11] <liveCD> switch10_:   why cannot i have the permission to change it
[18:12] <Spad-XIII> liveCD: you kind of are, there's just no sudo password
 how do i alter the number of increments in the brightness popup in gnome?
[18:12] <Spad-XIII> liveCD: when using the live-cd that is
[18:12] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, why are you building??
[18:12] <RocketLauncher> When I DRAG a WINDOW to my OTHER SCREEN, the left side of that window gets stuck, doesn't move any further to my other screen.. I really want this to work.
[18:12] <switch10_> liveCD not if you're changing it on an install
[18:12] <liveCD> Spad-XIII:   i mounted my  hard dive and then found the  file  menu.lst   but  i cannot save it
[18:12] <Spliffster> hi all. i just got a dbus update in jaunty and now my desktop turned into a door stopper. dbus permission problems for network-admin, colume control, user manager (gnome) and probably more. all related to dbus permission problems. any hints how to fix this ?
[18:13] <bazhang> RocketLauncher, are you using compiz? you have dual screens set up?
[18:13] <switch10_> just do sudo dude
[18:13] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: now why does everyone ask this Q??? coz I want my blasted mach64 card to work?? :D
[18:13] <liveCD> switch10_:   im in gui  mode now
[18:13] <Spad-XIII> liveCD: use sudo to edit it .. should work, like switch10_ says
[18:13] <RocketLauncher> bazhang i have dual screen set up. i dont think i'm using compzi, how do i find out
[18:13] <om26er> can any1 tell me about eeebuntu ? does it install all the applications of the ubuntu
[18:13] <kmh27> is there a better forum for help with system administration?  I messed up my file system and raid config
[18:13] <bobbyd> hi
[18:13] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, well what's your make problem?
[18:13] <scampbell> RocketLauncher:  nvidia card?  r u using separate X screens or twin view. separate X will not allow you to drag accross.
[18:13] <bazhang> om26er, you have an eeepc?
[18:13] <switch10_> liveCD  sudo nautilus
[18:13] <switch10_> then find it
[18:13] <switch10_> again
[18:13] <dude> switch10_: don't sudo me! :)
[18:14] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, it also helps when someone is trying to help you when they know what you are trying to do
[18:14] <RocketLauncher> scampbell ati. i dont know what im using, i just went into display settings to do it.
[18:14] <switch10_> haha
[18:14] <bazhang> RocketLauncher, set appearances-->visual effects to none
[18:14] <Spliffster> who has experienced problems with the lates dbus update ?
[18:14] <bobbyd> does anyone know of an application nthat has the same tagging abilities as f-spot, but will efficiently deal with many thousands of images?
[18:14] <RocketLauncher> bazhang oh then it's off.
[18:14] <genii> switch10_: Don't recommend people to use sudo with graphical apps please
[18:14] <bdesham> hello all... any idea when firefox 3.5 will become the "main" firefox package under ubuntu?
[18:14] <bobbyd> I've found the file import is incredibly slow with f-spot
[18:14] <scampbell> RocketLauncher:  K, just offered the one I knew about :)
[18:14] <gartral> Spliffster: like what?
[18:14] <bazhang> bdesham, in the next release
[18:14] <liveCD> can i do  sudo gedit /media/disk/boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:14] <Spliffster> genii: sudo is better in gnome if /etc/sudoers is setup propper. gksu will not tolerate rules in /etc/sudoers ... just for the record
[18:14] <switch10_> liveCD  yup
[18:14] <Spad-XIII> liveCD:yes
[18:14] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: :D yeah, well I'm trying to build mesa and I get an error at the end after make. The errors are kinda long, private message?
[18:15] <Out_Cold> liveCD, gksu no sudo
[18:15] <sseiersen> um
[18:15] <liveCD> ok :D
[18:15] <bazhang> liveCD, no
[18:15] <bastidrazor> liveCD, gksudo instead of sudo
[18:15] <gartral> !firefox-3.5 | bdesham
[18:15] <mabus> how can I configure networkmanager from the commandline? it resets my wireless connection I configure manually due to my monitor recently breaking. alternatively, how can I stop networkmanager and then redhcp eth0 in one command soas not to lose connectivity and therefore ways of actually entering commands?
[18:15] <bazhang> switch10_, gksudo
[18:15] <sseiersen> Does Ubuntu 9.04 support dual processors?
[18:15] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, pastebin.com please
[18:15] <sseiersen> Cause both of mine aint showing up
[18:15] <Spliffster> mabus: check /etc/network/interfaces instead
[18:15] <bazhang> sseiersen, of course it does
[18:15] <Ti-dev> oh, ok..
[18:15] <bastidrazor> !gksudo > Spliffster
[18:15] <bdesham> bazhang: you mean the next major release of ubuntu?  thanks.  (I'm a relative newbie with linux package management)
[18:15] <sseiersen> hmm
[18:15] <Spliffster> mabus: this is one of the files network manager manages
[18:15] <genii> Spliffster: With the default setup, gksu is recommended
[18:16] <bobbyd> sseiersen: where are you looking? have you done cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[18:16] <Spad-XIII> !gksudo > Spad-XIII
[18:16] <CoolShorts> Hi all, I'm having a graphical problem with dual screen:  http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5526/visualdualerror.png
[18:16] <bazhang> bdesham, it is available now, called shiretoko when you install it
[18:16] <sseiersen> How do I see their status? Cause in System Monitor I only see one
[18:16] <cmcasper> boas, alguem me sabe dizer como posso criar passwords no webmin para os users ?
[18:16] <sseiersen> bobbyd, No I haven't
[18:16] <sseiersen> I will try that
[18:16] <liveCD> OK I DID IT :D   thank you everyone
[18:16] <bazhang> sseiersen, what kernel?
[18:16] <velcroshooz> is cpu scaling broken in 2.6.28-13? running inxi or other hardware spec apps with 2.6.28-11 showed processor clocked at 1400 mhz to 2700 mhz .. now in 2.6.28-13, it just shows 1400 mhz, what gives?
[18:16] <mfm> hi
[18:16] <bdesham> bazhang: I saw that, I was wondering when 3.5 would become the "default", branded version of firefox
[18:16] <bdesham> bazhang: thanks for the info
[18:16] <cmcasper> Anyone know how I can put passwords in users using webmin ?
[18:16] <bobbyd> sseiersen: I see one line in the graph per core I've got, if you can see them all under /proc/cpuinfo then they're all there
[18:17] <mfm> can you give me program msnger for gos
[18:17] <gartral> bdesham: in short, wait for Karmin Koala
[18:17] <sseiersen> 2.6.28-13-server
[18:17] <gartral> Karmic*
[18:17] <RocketLauncher> so i dont have compiz running. what else could be the problem?
[18:17] <dAnon> is there any possible way of getting decent flash player performance on Ubuntu?
[18:17] <bdesham> gartral: gotcha.  thanks!
[18:17] <mfm> can you give me program msnger for gos
[18:18] <fwaokda> anyone know how I can "boost" my sound in ubuntu jaunty? It comes out just a little lower than windows did...
[18:18] <Spliffster> hey folk s... the last debus updated fsck'ed on my system. permission problems all over the place. any fix known ?
[18:18] <bobbyd> jAnon: flash player 10 works well for me, I think it's maybe still in beta
[18:18] <bazhang> mfm, Gos?
[18:18] <Spliffster> *dbus
[18:18] <bobbyd> dAnon: tat was for you :)
[18:18] <gartral> dAnon: yea, run your web broser with -j 2 flag and only on a dual-core machine
[18:18] <dakarn> install flash-nonfree instead of adobe-flashplayer
[18:18] <mfm> gos (windows google)\
[18:18] <sseiersen> :O
[18:18] <sseiersen> Only one shows
[18:18] <bazhang> mfm, what is gos
[18:18] <sseiersen> And there's two in the server
[18:18] <dAnon> fwaokda: just buy a decent sound card, it's not expensive
[18:19] <switch10_> fwaokda:  right click on the sound thing in the top right, open volume controls
[18:19] <sebsebseb> hi
[18:19] <fwaokda> dAnon, tsk tsk tsk
[18:19] <mfm> http://www.thinkgos.com/index.html
[18:19] <fwaokda> switch10_, thanks the "front" settings were a little low works perfect now! ;)
[18:19] <mfm> http://www.thinkgos.com/index.html
[18:20] <switch10_> fwaokda  sure thing
[18:20] <bazhang> mfm, that is not supported here; find their channel or forums for support
[18:20] <dAnon> fwaokda sound blaster live is an awesome sound card and it's very cheap integrated sound is worthless
[18:20] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: http://pastebin.com/m25c37b59
[18:20] <AJC_Z0> Running compiz on 9.04. When I lower the resolution of my display (from 1920x1080 to 1280x800) with System > Display, the windows which were too big to fit (e.g. Firefox, Thunderbird, acroread) seem to have disappeared from my display, even when I change the resolution back. It makes no difference if they were minimised first. How do I get them back?
[18:21] <switch10_> dAnon  for some people integrated sound is fine.  including me
[18:21] <fwaokda> dAnon, well i guess that's up to opinion (the integrated sound being worthless, that is) because integrated sound is fine for me
[18:22] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, did your ./configure come out clean?
[18:22] <velcroshooz> Can anyone confirm, or deny cpu scaling working in 2.6.28-13 from the repos?
[18:22] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, i would like to see your ./configure pastebinn please
[18:23] <dAnon> integrated sound is worthless, period ;) It's always quiet, and always has poor quality
[18:23] <RocketLauncher> whenever i drag a window to my other screen, it doesn't drag all the way...... so i dont have compiz running. what else could be the problem?
[18:23] <iPoRn> i have a problem for quite some time now, i can't use teamspeak because when i speak, the other people, can't hear me...but i can hear them, i've tried with pulseaudio, and alsa...what could be wrong? besides me ;x
[18:23] <fwaokda> !grub
[18:23] <devil> i am using usb to boot ubuntu...system restarts exactly 4 times before a successful boot
[18:24] <gartral> devil:
[18:24] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: yup, it did... http://pastebin.com/d3f94cd12
[18:25] <devil> gartral:yes?
[18:25] <RocketLauncher> whenever i drag a window to my other screen, it doesn't drag all the way...... so i dont have compiz running. what else could be the problem?
[18:25] <gartral> devil: does it exhibit this behavior when booting from other media? (LiveCds, internal disk)
[18:25] <devil> gartral: yes using live cd it does exactly the same.
[18:26] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: could it be the "--with-drivers" operator?
[18:26] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, first problem "configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --with-drivers"
[18:26] <h0dges> hi, how do i alter the number of increments in the brightness popup in gnome?
[18:26] <Ti-dev> :D
[18:26] <Ti-dev> Jinx :D
[18:26] <Ti-dev> k I'll try again without it?
[18:26] <gartral> devil: do you have another computer handy to chat from?
[18:27] <devil> gartral: yes  i am chatting from anothr system
[18:27] <RocketLauncher> whenever i drag a window to my other screen, it doesn't drag all the way...... so i dont have compiz running. what else could be the problem?
[18:27] <gartral> devil: ok, im going too pm you, this is a hardware problem, and outside the scope of #ubuntu
[18:28] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, where are your instructions for this?
[18:28] <Ti-dev> you mean the guide I'm following?
[18:28] <mabo> ciao
[18:29] <Out_Cold> yes Ti-dev
[18:29] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: http://www.mesa3d.org/install.html and http://www.mesa3d.org/autoconf.html for more info on the operators for ./configure and stuff
[18:29] <mazda01> i installed phpmyadmin in jaunty and created the symlink to /var/www/ but when I use firefox and type in localhost/phpmyadmin it asks about either opening or saving a phtml file. here's the screenshot. http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2nrk.png
[18:29] <Spliffster> san someone give me a pointer how to reset dbus to it's initial configuration?
[18:29] <ttye0> Does anyone know of a way, with one command-line command, to get the number of new e-mails via alpine?
[18:30] <RocketLauncher> whenever i drag a window to my other screen, it doesn't drag all the way...... so i dont have compiz running. what else could be the problem?
[18:30] <grawity> ttye0: alpine -i might be useful
[18:30] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, try just running ./configure
[18:30] <grawity> ttye0: are you using /var/mail, or a maildir, or IMAP?
[18:30] <Out_Cold> see if you get errors then
[18:30] <ttye0> grawity: IMAP
[18:30] <slothish> RocketLauncher: check your display settings
[18:31] <ttye0> I'm trying to make a awesomewm widget that will display this information
[18:31] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: when I do that, "make" works but i get the same errors at "make linux-dri-x86"
[18:31] <ttye0> *an
[18:31] <Spliffster> ttye0: it might be simple to query an imap server with netcat or telnet
[18:31] <grawity> ttye0: you could use another IMAP client.
[18:31] <RocketLauncher> slothish check it for what? should i have edited a config file like it suggested
[18:31] <ttye0> grawity: Hm
[18:31] <slothish> RocketLauncher:  yes, check the xorg config file
[18:32] <slothish> does it work without compiz?
[18:32]  * grawity wants to try writing a mail checker in Python after he noms his food.
[18:32] <ttye0> Thanks for your advice :)
[18:32] <Leon_Nardella> Anybody recommends a maintained GTK irc client?
[18:32] <trashbarg> Ti-dev: seems to be --with-dri-drivers instead of --with-drivers
[18:32] <grawity> Leon_Nardella: Xchat?
[18:33] <Spliffster> ttye0: netcat is what you are looking for if you want some ways to check the state of an imap mailbox.
[18:33] <Leon_Nardella> Graviton,
[18:33] <Leon_Nardella> grawity, maintained?
[18:33] <grawity> No idea. I use irssi. (That's a command-line one though)
[18:33] <ttye0> Spliffster: I'll see if I can pull it off that way. I've never tried to use nc like that
[18:33] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: oh hi :D, I'm sorry I'm not quite getting what you mean..
[18:33] <RocketLauncher> slothish http://codepad.org/r2lqVKJ5 I used a CODE pastebin by mistake but it still showed up..
[18:34] <AncientSocrates> hello i would like to ask, if ubuntu live cd, and live cds of linux in general. load anything on the pc's hdd, or they just run using ram?
[18:34] <Leon_Nardella> grawity, I'll probably switch to irssi myself. :\
[18:34] <Spliffster> Leon_Nardella: xchat is quiet nice. if you are sitting here ally day irssi is more pwoerfull though
[18:34] <slothish> AncientSocrates:  it runs entirely from RMA
[18:34] <slothish> RAM
[18:34] <AncientSocrates> ok thanks
[18:34] <Spad-XIII> AncientSocrates: live-cd's don't make any changes to your harddrives, unless you want them to
[18:34] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, try ./configure with --with-dri-drivers yourdriverhere
[18:34] <AncientSocrates> just wanted to make sure
[18:35] <AncientSocrates> thanks
[18:35] <Spliffster> ttye0: good luck ... unless you must not use TLS it should be a piece of cake i guess
[18:35] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: oh, okay.
[18:35] <Leon_Nardella> Spliffster, I just don't feel comfortable using abandoned stuff when there're other choices.
[18:35] <ttye0> Spliffster: my netcat experience in that aspect is nada ;p
[18:36] <Spliffster> Leon_Nardella: it seems to work pretty well. you might try pidgin with irc, but its a horibly limited irc lcient (but maintained and GTK+)
[18:36] <ttye0> Spliffster: ssl and all
[18:36] <Spliffster> oh
[18:36] <bruenig> Leon_Nardella: irssi is the pro choice. Might as well.
[18:36] <Leon_Nardella> Spliffster, Yeah.. I've tried Pidgin already, but it lacks a lot of stuff you need on irc.
[18:36] <RocketLauncher> slothish here's a xorg paste from a better pastebin http://pastebin.com/dddaed41 i dont think the last one worked
[18:36] <slothish> RocketLauncher:  I'm sorry, I can't take a look at the config file now.  But, perhaps someone else can take a look at it for you.
[18:36] <RocketLauncher> oh
[18:37] <Spliffster> ttye0: i have never tried that ... you might be able to connect to IMAPS with nc but it probybly won't be worth the hassle. maybe you might use your scripting language of your choice ... python, perl, etc.
[18:37] <slothish> RocketLauncher:  Sorry, I'm going out in 10 mins, so I'm winding things up now.
[18:37] <RocketLauncher> ok
[18:37] <Spliffster> Leon_Nardella: on the other hand, xchat hast it all and works fine (is also quiet nicely integrated into the desktop [tray]) ... why would one not want to use it ?
[18:38] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: what do you think about "--with-x"? I'm not sure about that one though I put it..
[18:38] <Spad-XIII> is there a nice and easy way to configure/check those special laptop keys? the keys combined with an FN-key
[18:38] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, try with
[18:38] <Spad-XIII> besides the default working volume/brightness controls
[18:38] <twig11> I'm looking at directions for setting  up a wireless card here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo and I see that they say to list the WEP key as 0-F instead of 0-9. I entered mine as 0-9 and I've had a lot of trouble with it. Could that be part of the problem?
[18:38] <mabo> ciao
[18:39] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: okeydokey
[18:39] <mabo> !list
[18:39] <RocketLauncher> Could anyone else help me with my problem? Windows don't drag all the way onto my other screen.. Here's a pastebin of xorg    http://pastebin.com/dddaed41
[18:39] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, can't break a package that hasn't been built..
[18:39] <fwaokda> anyone else's mouse cursor "jitter" at random times?
[18:39] <Ti-dev> :D ahuh
[18:39] <twig11> !anyone
[18:39] <fwaokda> ?
[18:40] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: okay, configure worked and "DRI drivers:     mach64"
[18:40] <switch10_> fwaokda  is it a wireless mouse?
[18:40] <fwaokda> switch10_, yerp
[18:40] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, try make now
[18:40] <mazda01> i installed phpmyadmin in jaunty and created the symlink to /var/www/ but when I use firefox and type in localhost/phpmyadmin it asks about either opening or saving a phtml file. here's the screenshot. http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2nrk.png
[18:40] <Ti-dev> compliance :D
[18:40] <switch10_> fwaokda  my bluetooth mouse does a little, but not my logitech
[18:41] <mazda01> anyone else use phpmyadmin in jaunty and got it working?
[18:41] <Spliffster> some questions answered, may I ask myself now? My dbus just foobar'ed on me and i want to reset it to factory settings. sudo dpkg-reconfigure dbus didn't hel, any suggestions ?
[18:41] <fwaokda> mine's a microsoft keyboard/mouse wireless combo... conspiracy? ;)
[18:41] <switch10_> fwaokda   I bet
[18:41] <Spad-XIII> mazda01: i tried it myself as well .. didn't get it working so far.. was fighting the network-connection problems first
[18:42] <Spliffster> awww fsck it ... i am going to #debian
[18:42] <twig11> Is it important to enter a WEP key as 0-F instead of 0-9 when setting up a wireless card? Here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo  they state that it's necessary to enter the key as 0-F but I'm not even sure how to do that?
[18:42] <twig11> how to do that.
[18:43] <dcherniv> twig11: dont use WEP
[18:43] <dakarn> !wap
[18:43] <dakarn> or wpa
[18:43] <dakarn> !wpa
[18:43] <Pici> !wep
[18:43] <twig11> dcherniv: not my choice, I'm not the network admin
[18:43] <Spad-XIII> twig11: i have no idea .. i'm using wpa instead of wep .. why do you use wep ?
[18:44] <Pici> twig11: I believe it just means that you can use hex values, you aren't limited to just 0-9
[18:44] <RocketLauncher> Could anyone else help me with my problem? Windows don't drag all the way onto my other screen.. Here's a pastebin of xorg    http://pastebin.com/dddaed41
[18:44] <dcherniv> twig11: in case of WEP, 9 and F are different numbers
[18:44] <dcherniv> twig11: 9 is 9 in decimal F is 15 in decimal
[18:44] <twig11> Pici: dakarn: Please. I just posted a link to the place your sending me. I'm asking a question concerning their instructions.
[18:44] <dakarn> we recommended you use WPA instead of WEP
[18:44] <mazda01> Spad-XIII, it seems like jaunty has been a real regression!! there are so many problems! I can't even burn audio cd's from mp3's in Brasero!! Thats bogus. WHy would they include something that doesn't even work?
[18:44] <Pici> twig11: See my response afterwards.
[18:45] <dcherniv> twig11: and yes WEP keys are usually entered using HEX so 0-F is the right way
[18:45] <dakarn> and you can use any string you want
[18:45] <dcherniv> twig11: unless you're entering a wep passphrase
[18:45] <twig11> Pici: Thanks
[18:45] <Spad-XIII> dakarn: hehe, i haven't tried that at all .. ubuntu isn't on my main system (need games... :P )
[18:46] <RocketLauncher> Could anyone else help me with my problem? Windows don't drag all the way onto my other screen.. Here's a pastebin of xorg    http://pastebin.com/dddaed41
[18:46] <Spad-XIII> hmm, wrong person to reply to :P
[18:46] <dakarn> Spad-XIII: you can't play games on linux?
[18:46] <Spad-XIII> mazda01: hehe, i haven't tried burning cd's at all .. ubuntu isn't on my main system (need games... :P )
[18:47] <twig11> dcherniv: no, I don't think so. it's a ten-digit key. How do you enter the key using hex?
[18:47] <Spad-XIII> dakarn: sure can .. but it's alot easier to install and play games on windows
[18:47] <dakarn> Spad-XIII: just curious. and i'm not trying to start an OS war, but what game(s)?
[18:47] <linduxed> if ive got music in /home/linduxed/music and ive got a user (other than linduxed) and I make a symlink to the music folder called /public/music (for instance), how do i make the contents of the symlink viewable for the other user?
[18:47] <trashbarg> linduxed, chmod(1)
[18:48] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: no go...:'(
[18:48] <dakarn> linduxed: a better way would be to put all music in /usr/share/*** and then symlink it :)
[18:48] <linduxed> trashbarg: yes but chmod what
[18:48] <Spad-XIII> dakarn: steam games (hl2, tf2, etc), anno 1404, wow, things like that .. i'm starting to use ubuntu as my work os .. should be better than windows for sure
[18:48] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, have you read the file's README?
[18:48] <frostbite7> hey how's everyone?
[18:48] <unop> linduxed, a symlink takes the permission of the target file .. make sure your music is owned by a group that both users are in.
[18:48] <dakarn> Spad-XIII: wow runs better on linux than windows (for me) :)
[18:48] <dcherniv> twig11: just enter it. FF:00:54:14:FE or something like that'
[18:49] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: you mean within ~/Mesa-7.4.4?
[18:49] <Out_Cold> yes
[18:49] <RocketLauncher> Could anyone else help me with my problem? Windows don't drag all the way onto my other screen.. Here's a pastebin of xorg    http://pastebin.com/dddaed41
[18:49] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: Thats the prob, there isn't any :(
[18:49] <linduxed> unop: oh, thats right...
[18:49] <frostbite7> can someone please help me? i'm trying to install a mac theme but i keep getting error messages
[18:49] <Spad-XIII> dakarn: nice .. i know it should run on linux, but i've never played wow on linux .. haven't played it for a while
[18:49] <careta> hello
[18:49] <bobo> frostbite7: whats the error say?
[18:49] <Out_Cold> i'm not too sure then Ti-dev might be a crappy built source?
[18:49] <sseiersen> Is cairo dock in Ubuntu>
[18:49] <sseiersen> ?
[18:50] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, or you are missing strings or libraries
[18:50] <Pici> !info cairo-dock | sseiersen
[18:50] <bazhang> sseiersen, yes
[18:50] <dakarn> frostbite7: is it a gtk theme or a WM theme? i don't understand 'mac theme'
[18:50] <sseiersen> Thanks
[18:50] <frostbite7> it says that it isn't a valid theme
[18:50] <frostbite7> gtk theme
[18:50] <melinux> #ubuntu_it
[18:50] <careta> I have a clevo m746s with ubuntu 9.04 but my screen is at 800x600 instead of 1440x900. On screen properties it doesn't detect my screen... what can I do?
[18:50] <velcroshooz> Can anyone confirm, or deny cpu scaling working in 2.6.28-13 from the repos?
[18:50] <bobo> frostbite7: then, its not a valid theme. are you talking about when you drag the tar.gz file (or whatever it is) into the appearance window?
[18:51] <twig11> dcherniv: I don't know anything about hexadecimal numbers; if my key were "0123456789" for example would it make a problem with my card if it were just entered as plain numbers. If it's important, do you have a recommendation for a good place to learn how to use hex?
[18:51] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: first one = could be, second one, I thought so too and I recompiled "libdrm" which is a required set of libraries...
[18:51] <kowey> my computer has taken to hanging mysteriously (and more and more frequently) lately... [in particular, after I upgraded to 9.04, but a bit prior too]
[18:51] <dakarn> frostbite7: you should just unpkg it to /usr/share/themes
[18:51] <kowey> any troubleshooting tips?
[18:51] <nightrid3r> !skype
[18:51] <frostbite7> yes
[18:51] <h0dges> hey how do i sms in skype?
[18:51] <Pici> dakarn, frostbite7: If you are using gnome you only need to drag the archive over the theme window and it will install it.
[18:52] <dcherniv> twig11: first off where do you get that key? if it doesnt use any letters its still a valid hex, ie 11:22:33:44:55 or<PHONE_NUMBER> is still a valid hex number
[18:52] <frostbite7> okay cool thank you.
[18:52] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: hey there are 19 "README.*" files within ~/Mesa-7.4.4/docs :D
[18:52] <Eloff> I run Ubuntu in VritualBox, I installed the important updates today, including the kernel update, and now the display is buggered (everything is packed into a strip about 20px high) is there a way to boot up into a terminal (some kind of safe mode?) or with bare minimum settings/drivers/services ?
[18:52] <dakarn> frostbite7: it will have a subdirectory from the theme directory name that says gtk2.0 (if you manually do it -- i don't use gnome as a wm)
[18:52] <rootribal> #hackmeeting
[18:52] <bobo> ok well ive had that problem too, theres this thing in the repostiories thats called 'art manager' and it is really useful for themes. just sudo apt-get install art-manager to get it and its really easy to install themes with it
[18:52] <rootribal> #irc-hackmeeting
[18:52] <sseiersen> How do I tell apt-get to check another mirror?
[18:53] <sseiersen> Cause this one's stoped at 0%
[18:53] <frostbite7> okay thanks. appreciate it.
[18:53] <grawity> sseiersen: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:53] <frostbite7> later guys thanks for the help.
[18:53] <amnay> Hi
[18:53] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, i'd maybe read some more..
[18:53] <bobo> yep
[18:53] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, see if they have an install
[18:53] <amnay> How do I mute the sound that comes from the box?
[18:53] <Out_Cold> *readme
[18:53] <bobo> amnay: are you talking about the annoying beep?
[18:53] <amnay> no
[18:53] <bobo> nvm then
[18:54] <RocketLauncher> How do I find out which version of X I got
[18:54] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: there's an install.html if that'd be of use..
[18:54] <Out_Cold> bobo, i'll learn how to shut off sysbeep
[18:54] <amnay> like the one that comes out of speakers
[18:54] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, that might help ya
[18:54] <RocketLauncher> A
[18:54] <RocketLauncher> SS
[18:54] <sseiersen> 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)] << This is what I get.
[18:54] <RocketLauncher> HO
[18:54] <RocketLauncher> LE
[18:54] <FloodBot2> RocketLauncher: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:54] <sseiersen> ON Cairo-dock's install
[18:54] <bobo> amnay: im not sure what your talking about
[18:54] <bobo> amnay: gimme an example of when you hear it
[18:55] <th0r> RocketLauncher: less than 60 seconds from question to fit....new record
[18:55] <amnay> ia ; when I watch a movie , the sound comes from my speakers AND the box too
[18:55] <Out_Cold> amnay, type alsamixer in terminal and use the arrow keys to reduce sound.
[18:55] <bobo> by box, do you mean the computer?
[18:55] <RocketLauncher> th0r be quiet, wrong channel
[18:55] <amnay> bobo : yes
[18:55] <RocketLauncher> I haven't even been here before
[18:55] <bobo> ok
[18:56] <bobo> yeah listen to out_cold, i havent messed with sound if forever
[18:56] <bobo> in forever*
[18:56] <amnay> I want the sound to come only from speakers
[18:56] <bobo> amnay: opposed to what?
[18:56] <Out_Cold> lol
[18:56] <elementz> wie lasse ich mir die groupid einer bestimmten gruppe anzeigen?
[18:56] <sseiersen> Anyone know what the problem is for me? ON Cairo-dock's install I get this > 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[18:56] <elementz> ^sry wrong channel
[18:56] <bazhang> elementz, #ubuntu-de for German
[18:56] <Pici> !guidelines > RocketLauncher
[18:56] <amnay> Oh thank you bobo  , That fixed it
[18:57] <RocketLauncher> Pici you're a little late there
[18:57] <amnay> I muted "front"
[18:57] <twig11> dcherniv: The key comes from the network administrator, and I'm using it on other machines, so I know it works. From what you're saying I guess it's good the way it is. I'm still poking around for clues as to why I have to cycle my interface and reenter the network information with iwconfig every time I reboot.
[18:57] <oskar-> elementz:  grep group /etc/group  ;-)
[18:57] <RocketLauncher> I stopped talking, Pici.
[18:57] <bobo> oh yeah, that does it. i didnt do anything though hahah, sometimes you just gotta tinker with stuff for a while
[18:57] <Out_Cold> RocketLauncher, it's never too late to warn people
[18:57] <RocketLauncher> It's never too late to repeat
[18:57] <RocketLauncher> "Wrong channel"
[18:57] <dcherniv> twig11: some wifi cards are quirky like that
[18:57] <elementz> oskar-: lol thx
[18:58] <RocketLauncher> I'll repeat it again when someone posts the guidelines five minutes later
[18:58] <dcherniv> twig11: whats the chipset you're using?
[18:58] <oskar-> RocketLauncher:  what it you problem?
[18:58] <bobo> RocketLauncher: what are you talking about?
[18:58] <RocketLauncher> oskar- Windows don't drag all the way to my secondary screen, if that's what you're talking about
[18:59] <bobo> RocketLauncher: You gotta go into compiz preferences
[18:59] <RocketLauncher> bobo I'm not running compiz
[18:59] <Hilikus> how do i edit rules in ufw?
[18:59] <bobo> into the cube thing and...hold on i gotta check it
[18:59] <bobo> then nevermind
[18:59] <bobo> what are you running then?
[18:59] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: docs/install.html is the same as the one online....trying just, "./configure --with-drivers=mach64"
[19:00] <RocketLauncher> bobo Ubuntu Jaunty? I'm not really running anything..
[19:00] <durt> !ufw > Hilikus
[19:00] <RocketLauncher> I just set display settings to stop mirroring, and that's how I've come to this.
[19:00] <bobo> like ok, im not talking about the operating system
[19:00] <bobo> !compiz
[19:00] <luis_> hola
[19:00] <superGear> metacity maybe
[19:00] <bobo> possibly
[19:00] <luis_> hola
[19:00] <bazhang> luis_, #ubuntu-es for espanol
[19:00] <edbian> luis_: !hit
[19:00] <superGear> say Hello
[19:00] <ducky__> luis_:  hola
[19:01] <RocketLauncher> bobo Whatever's the default? I think it could be metacity
[19:01] <oskar-> RocketLauncher:  can you drag the mouse from one screen to the other?
[19:01] <edbian> luis_: hi
[19:01] <luis_> hola como estan
[19:01] <DerrickMorgentha> test
[19:01] <RocketLauncher> oskar- yes
[19:01] <bobo> if you have to monitors yeah
[19:01] <nightrid3r> !hardware
[19:01] <luis_> de donde son
[19:01] <RocketLauncher> oskar- when i drag a window, the left side of the window doesn't go any further onto the second screen, and i'm stuck there
[19:01] <bazhang> luis_, english here
[19:01] <edbian> !es | luis
[19:01] <bazhang> luis_, /join #ubuntu-es
[19:01] <Hilikus_> durt i know all that. i have a limit rule in ubuntu that i need to modify to change the threshold
[19:01] <superGear> luis_, goto #ubuntu-es
[19:01] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, also look for troubleshooting or other build READMEs
[19:01] <bobo> RocketLauncher: are you talking about another monitor? or a nother workspace?
[19:01] <RocketLauncher> bobo monitor
[19:01] <bobo> ok
[19:02] <superGear> 2 monitors
[19:02] <superGear> ?
[19:02] <dakarn> rocketlauncher: you using twin view?
[19:02] <bobo> thats not my forte
[19:02] <superGear> nvidia?
[19:02] <twig11> dcherniv:13b1:000b Linksys WUSB11 v4.0 802.11b Adapter
[19:02] <shader> is it possible to convert i386 ubuntu to lpia ubuntu?
[19:02] <RocketLauncher> dakarn I'm not sure. I just went into Display Settings, and since both screens were mirroring, I unselected "mirroring"..
[19:02] <fccf> RocketLauncher: I think you need to setup to use twinview ... rightnow you are running a virtual setup... which I have never heard of
[19:02] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: kk...hey I had downloaded a package from dri.freedesktop.org containing some mach64 drivers...will I need this?
[19:02] <RocketLauncher> fccf So how do i set that up
[19:02] <bazhang> !xrandr
[19:02] <legend2440> RocketLauncher: ati or nvidia card?
[19:02] <superGear> RocketLauncher, select twinview
[19:02] <edbian>  shader: O dpmt
[19:02] <RocketLauncher> legend2440 ati
[19:02] <superGear> if nvidia
[19:03] <om26er> plz any1 tell me which filesystem is fastest in ubuntu
[19:03] <RocketLauncher> superGear where?
[19:03] <dakarn> rocketlauncher: you should check your 2nd monitor setting and make sure 1) it's enabled 2) it uses a compatible resolution/refresh rate
[19:03] <superGear> ati i have no idea
[19:03] <shader> edbian: hmm?
[19:03] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: It's a drm driver...
[19:03]  * superGear uses nvida
[19:03] <edbian> shader: I don't think ubuntu supports architectures other than x86, amd_64, and powerpc
[19:03] <twig11> dcherniv: With the card plugged in, network-manager hangs and wifi-radar won't even start.
[19:03]  * superGear thinks ATI is evil
[19:03] <Ti-dev> okay, I *think*
[19:03] <dakarn> rocketlauncher: nvidia-settings
[19:03] <RocketLauncher> dakarn I changed the refresh rate on both monitors to 75, and it drags now...
[19:03] <wildc4rd> evening all
[19:03] <moltenbobcat> all we need now is gnome to let you have different wallpapers on each machine
[19:04] <superGear> dakarn, that wouldn't do him any good with ati
[19:04] <shader> edbian: it does, but I don't know how to convert it after the fact. They have separate installs, and there is supposedly a linux-lpia source package, but I don't know how to install it
[19:04] <om26er> which filesystem is fastest
[19:04] <superGear> NTFS
[19:04] <superGear> j/k
[19:04] <bazhang> moltenbobcat, that should be possible with compiz #compiz for more details
[19:04] <fccf> om26er: ext4 would be fastest if it is run natively ... although you could expierence problems as it is very new
[19:04] <legend2440> RocketLauncher: http://hobbylobby.wordpress.com/2007/09/08/dual-monitors-in-ubuntu-xorgconf-driver-ati-card/
[19:04] <superGear> ext3/4
[19:04] <moltenbobcat> bazhang: awesome I had no idea
[19:05] <om26er> fccf: so which other filesystem
[19:05] <dakarn> RocketLauncher: so it works now?
[19:05] <edbian> shader: I don't know :(
[19:05] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: if you ask me, some geek accidentally copied the whole mesa3d.org site into /docs/ :D
[19:05] <superGear> ext3 is stable
[19:05] <dcherniv> twig11: did you use ndiswrapper to install driver?
[19:05] <dakarn> i didn't see the ATI -- all i saw was everyone saying nvidia
[19:05] <superGear> so is reiserfs and others
[19:05] <Amber_Johnson> hello, I have 2 8800GT nvidia graphics cards in SLI, I cant seem to get 8.10 or 9.04 to recognise my video cards. when I boot up the Live CD's they drop me to tty1 when X starts up. thanks in advanced for any help.
[19:05] <dcherniv> twig11: from googling this adapter appears quirky
[19:05] <shazam> how do I stop an application from printing error messages to the console?
[19:05] <RocketLauncher> dakarn yup. but does this mean I can't have one monitor on 85hz and the other one on 75?
[19:05] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, wrong bud... some geek copied all of /docs/ into the website ;)
[19:05] <Ali_nz> If I connect and login to my ubunutu box via VNC, why when I go to the physical machine do I get the login screen vs's seeing myself actually logged in?
[19:05] <shader> edbian: unfortunately, it is hard to attract attention in this room ;)
[19:05] <Ti-dev> haha, good one! :D
[19:05] <Ti-dev> yeah more like it :D
[19:05] <superGear> shazam, find the error and fix it or smthin
[19:06] <edbian> shader: Sounds to me like you're going to have to install some sort of image-linux-2.6.28-lpia package.  Which would in turn basically be installing a new OS
[19:06] <Slart> Ali_nz: because vnc creates a new session when you connect
[19:06] <jrib> shader: redirect stderr to /dev/null
[19:06] <RocketLauncher> dakarn huh i just changed it to 85 and it works.. with different refresh rates.
[19:06] <jrib> arg
[19:06] <twig11> dcherniv: Yes I did. gogeta wrote me a simple script to automate the re-entering of all the information each time , but it still involves entering a sudo password in terminal, which is fine for me but not good for other users who "just want it to work."
[19:06] <jrib> shazam: redirect stderr to /dev/null
[19:06] <Slart> Ali_nz: it's not like remote desktop or whatever it's called in windows
[19:06] <RocketLauncher> my bad, it couldn't apply
[19:06] <Ali_nz> Slart: how do I see if that remote session is still running?
[19:06] <dakarn> RocketLauncher: it was likely set on a defunct refresh rate
[19:06]  * jrib ponders banning everyone who does not have the first three letters of their nick unique
[19:06] <dakarn> RocketLauncher: congrats =)
[19:06] <Slart> Ali_nz: if you want that you can use x11vnc.. that uses the currently running session
[19:06] <RocketLauncher> dakarn How do I have both monitors on different refresh rates? Not that I can get used to 75 oh my other monitor, but still
[19:07] <Slart> Ali_nz: not sure really.. "who" perhaps
[19:07] <dcherniv> twig11: you can create an exception for this script in /etc/sudoers so it doesnt ask for a password
[19:07] <shader> jrib: but then you could only have 26^3 users in the #ubuntu channel ;)
[19:07] <Ali_nz> Slart: yea because that "session" was running a big job - I am loath to start it again if I dont have to
[19:07] <dcherniv> twig11: and then run the script on login: xterm -e "sudo scriptname"
[19:07] <fccf> Ali_nz: the difference is shared vs. noshared .. in the vnc configs
[19:07] <jrib> shader: you make a good point, I guess I won't afterall
[19:07] <dcherniv> shazam: ./example.pl > /dev/null 2>&1
[19:08] <vadi> Hi i am new to ubuntu can any one help me please?
[19:08] <twig11> jrib: twig11 finds two other nicks with same first three letters and begins biting fingernails.
[19:08] <erUSUL> !ask | vadi
[19:08] <edbian> vadi: What is your issue?
[19:09] <Ali_nz> fccf: righto - will take a look at that for next time
[19:09] <twig11> dcherniv: REALLY!
[19:09] <dcherniv> twig11: yea sure
[19:09] <shazam> thx
[19:09] <dakarn> RocketLauncher: lol i have no idea bro. are you using identical monitors?
[19:09] <vadi> Audio is not working in my desktop
[19:09] <shader> jrib: you wouldn't happen to know how to convert ubuntu from i386 to lpia after it's been installed, would you? It seems that there is a linux-lpia package, but I don't know how to install it
[19:09] <vadi> 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)
[19:09] <vadi> 	Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a004
[19:09] <vadi> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
[19:09] <vadi> 	Memory at bfffc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[19:09] <vadi> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[19:09] <FloodBot2> vadi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <twig11> dcherniv: can you coach me through it?
[19:09] <jrib> shazam: you can also just do: ./example 2> /dev/null   which is a little shorter
[19:09] <dakarn> !paste |vadi
[19:10] <vadi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/218175/
[19:10] <jrib> shader: pretty sure that requires you to backup and reinstall
[19:10] <Ali_nz> i think my ubunutu box might be screwed
[19:10] <RocketLauncher> dakarn Oh nope.. One is a Compaq 15'' and the other is an AOC 17''. both CRTS
[19:10] <Ali_nz> it freezez occaisonally
[19:10] <edbian> vadi: Add the volume applet to your panel and increase the volume on all of the sliders.
[19:10] <superGear> evil CRT
[19:10] <shader> jrib: hmmm. which installer would you use?
[19:10] <superGear> time to move to LCD
[19:10] <RocketLauncher> CRTS = EYECANCER amirite
[19:10] <dcherniv> twig11: hang on
[19:10] <icedwater> Hey guys :) How do I change settings in GNOME so the desktop doesn't display contents of ~, but the contents of ~/Desktop instead?
[19:11] <dakarn> RocketLauncher: and those support 75hz? i figure they'd both be 60hz 1024/768 :)
[19:11] <RocketLauncher> dakarn the 17'' supports 85hz
[19:11] <superGear> my monitor supports 85 @ 1024x768 and it's a CRT
[19:11] <RocketLauncher> dakarn I think I have it working now. I don't know what the problem was, I pretty much just changed the refresh rates of both monitors to 75hz, then changed it back to 75hz on one monitor and 85 on the other.
[19:11] <vadi> edbian, Volume icon is allready in panel and i increased to 100
[19:12] <shader> how does one install a "source package"?
[19:12] <RocketLauncher> superGear I usually keep the 17'' on 1280x960.
[19:12] <edbian> vadi: Right click on the applet and click "Open Volume Control" then Hit the preferences button in the box that opens.  Add the PCM slider.  Turn that one up too.
[19:12] <dcherniv> twig11: add this line to /etc/sudoers ALL ALL=NOPASSWD:/path/to/yourscript
[19:12] <vadi> When ever i shutdown i hear a noise from mother board
[19:12] <superGear> mine is @ 1280x1024 60
[19:12] <dakarn> Rocketlauncher: such is the nature of the beast. congrats on debugging x =)
[19:12] <RocketLauncher> I got one CRT for free as a donation.... the other was $100 with a PC that broke in a month
[19:12] <jrib> !source > shader
[19:12] <edbian> vadi: That's called a system beep.  It's completely unrelated hardware to your soundcard
[19:12] <superGear> old Sont monitor
[19:12] <superGear> Sony*
[19:13] <superGear> 15"
[19:13] <superGear> :/
[19:13] <RocketLauncher> dakarn I feel a beard growing.
[19:13] <RocketLauncher> I'm off, I'll report any problems
[19:13] <superGear> i am going to buy a new monitor soon
[19:13] <velcroshooz> Can anyone confirm, or deny cpu scaling working in 2.6.28-13 from the repos?
[19:13] <edbian> vadi: Do you have specific questions regarding the system beep (pc speaker) ??
[19:13] <superGear> using cpufreq?
[19:13] <oskar-> velcroshooz:  why should it not work?
[19:14] <vadi> No i thought its related with sound problem
[19:14] <edbian> velcroshooz: It depends on your processor as well.
[19:14] <Eloff> that's twice I've had to give up and restore from most recent backup after downloading the "important security updates" I'm disabling all updates this time.
[19:14] <velcroshooz> oskar-: because it isnt, and it was in 2.6.28-11 ootb
[19:14] <twig11> dcherniv: gksudo gedit /etc/sudoers ?
[19:14] <edbian> vadi: It might be but I doubt it.   It's a completely different driver
[19:14] <edbian> vadi: Did you add the PCM slider?
[19:14] <jrib> shader: I'm not sure about your lpia question.  I guess you need to grab the ubuntu-mobile installer right?
[19:14] <edbian> What are you using to test sound?
[19:15] <dcherniv> twig11: yea
[19:15] <Ti-dev> if you want to disable the system beep, "gksudo gedito /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf", add "blacklist pcspkr" to the end and that's it for "BEEP" each time you shutdown and/or reboot :D
[19:15] <Ti-dev> *gedit
[19:15] <edbian> vadi: See what Ti-dev said? ^
[19:15] <velcroshooz> edbian: processor supports it, was working in 2.6.28-11, no go in 2.6.28-13
[19:15] <fwaokda> is there anyway I can get my Ubuntu Jaunty 32bit to pick up my complete 4GiB of ram instead of just 3.2GiB ?
[19:15] <iceroot> fwaokda: PAE
[19:16] <sseiersen> !join
[19:16] <vadi> I have SAA7134 (alsa mixer) and VIA VIA VT1708 (OSS MIXER)
[19:16] <edbian> velcroshooz: mmm.  That's odd. IDK.  Use the older kernel! :P
[19:16] <sseiersen> hmm
[19:16] <iceroot> fwaokda: your mainboard must support PAE, then you can use 4GB Ram (for one process)
[19:16] <Ti-dev> fwaokda: I've heard that only 64bit version, ubuntu will detect more than so much of ram...
[19:16] <sseiersen> How do you join the project?
[19:16] <jrib> shader: here you go: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/9.04/release/
[19:16] <vadi> PCM slider is in VT1708 and its enabled
[19:16] <twig11> dcherniv: can I make the script a hidden file so it doesn't clutter my home folder?
[19:17] <oskar-> velcroshooz:  and the module for frequency changing with the processor type is loaded?
[19:17] <iceroot> Ti-dev: no, ubuntu 32bit with PAE can also handle more then 4GB, but not more then 4GB for one process
[19:17] <jrib> sseiersen: you want to help with development?
[19:17] <edbian> fwaokda: The cut off is 3.5 GB.  A 32 bit OS can only handle 3.5 GB of ram.  to use more you need a 64 bit OS
[19:17] <sseiersen> I can test systems
[19:17] <sseiersen> More like hardware
[19:17] <jrib> !develop | sseiersen
[19:17] <sseiersen> :O
[19:17] <edbian> fwaokda: See what iceroot said ^ ^ as well
[19:17] <sseiersen> Thanks
[19:17] <diddy> Is Bastille not available for Ubuntu 9.04 yet?
[19:17] <Ti-dev> oh? coo...coz I asked this q on the forum coz I'm building a PC with 4GiB in the near future...
[19:17] <Slart> !contribute
[19:17] <velcroshooz> oskar-: do you know the name of it, is there only one?
[19:17] <dcherniv> twig11: i'd put the script in /bin
[19:18] <dcherniv> twig11: if its not just for you but other users
[19:18] <edbian> dcherniv: not /usr/local/bin ??
[19:18] <Amber_Johnson> !sli
[19:18] <fwaokda> edbian, ahh... what other benefits come with a 64bit OS other than that?
[19:18] <Pici> diddy: I see it in the repos.
[19:18] <vadi> You there edbian
[19:18] <fwaokda> edbian, I was told not to download it because it has more problems
[19:18] <Pici> !info bastille | diddy
[19:18] <oskar-> velcroshooz:  which type of processor is it? i will have a look
[19:18] <edbian> fwaokda: Supposedly increased speed.  It depends on if the person who wrote the program you
[19:18] <iceroot> Ti-dev: fwaokda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[19:18] <twig11> dcherniv: okay I'll do that. and I was given instructions to run it as ./path to script. Is that correct?
[19:19] <Slart> edbian, fwaokda: 64bit had some problems before.. these days most of them are fixed or worked around
[19:19] <Amber_Johnson> !hide porn from my husband
[19:19] <edbian> fwaokda: program you're using programmed it to work better on 64 bit system.  I don't know all the detail though.  I heard google does.
[19:19] <velcroshooz> oskar-: amd am2+ kuma 7750 BE
[19:19] <Pici> Amber_Johnson: Please don't abuse the bot.
[19:19] <edbian> vadi: Yes?
[19:19] <shane2peru_> hmm, my logs havn't logged anything recently, why is that?
[19:19] <dcherniv> edbian: yea /usr/local/bin would be an appropriate place but i dont think ubuntu puts /usr/local/bin in the PATH
[19:19] <Spad-XIII> is it possible to have both the wired and the wireless connection to have the same static ip address and then use either one instead of 'both'? or should i just unplug the cable and setup the wireless with a static ip address? (i'm using network manager)
[19:19] <diddy> Pici: I installed it and it gave me an error message: Basistille doesn't work on debian5
[19:19] <iceroot> shane2peru_: not using syslogd or ksyslogd?
[19:19] <shane2peru_> since June 24?
[19:19] <edbian> dcherniv: O, I think you're right.
[19:19] <Pici> diddy: On Ubuntu?
[19:19] <dcherniv> twig11: depending on where you put it. if its in /bin then /bin/script
[19:20] <diddy> Pici: Yes Ubuntu
[19:20] <shane2peru_> iceroot: I don't think I didn't anything to stop them
[19:20] <diddy> Pici: Weird error message, right?
[19:20] <fwaokda> iceroot, Slart, edbian, thanks ;)
[19:20] <Slart> edbian, fwaokda: the only think I've run into that didn't work was a proprietary web plugin that I needed to do my taxes online..
[19:20] <oskar-> velcroshooz:  look, if "lsmod" lists "powernow-k8", else load it
[19:20] <edbian> fwaokda: NP
[19:20] <diddy> Pici: It uses the debian packages it seems.
[19:20] <velcroshooz> oskar-: will do one sec
[19:20] <iceroot> Spad-XIII: no each device has its own ip
[19:20] <dcherniv> twig11: dont forget sudo, even if you create an exception to not require a password you still should run it with sudo, ie sudo /bin/script
[19:21] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: hey guess what? some mesa-dri packages are available via synaptic...I'll try that :D
[19:21] <diddy> Try to install it and you will set. sudo aptitude basitlle; bastille -x; and you will see the error
[19:21] <Pici> diddy: Take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bastille/+bug/373375 and the page that the fist comment links to.
[19:21] <iceroot> Spad-XIII: i a LAN,WAN and so on an IP is unique
[19:21] <twig11> dcherniv: sudoers says it must be edited using visudo as root. and "save" is greyed out in the gui of gedit.
[19:21] <bruenig> twig11: sudo visudo
[19:21] <Spad-XIII> iceroot: is it possible to set a priority of some sort in network manager ? that it would use wireless if possible and fall back on wired ?
[19:21] <amikrop> Hello. I am on Ubuntu 9.04, I run Pidgin 2.5.5 and Pidgin-Audacious 2.0.0 doesn't work. It just doesn't change my status.
[19:21] <edbian> twig11: YES!  Only edit sudoers with visudo!!  It gets messed up otherwise!
[19:22] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, i was gonna ask you if you checked the repos.. but i was distracted..
[19:22] <dcherniv> twig11: yea visudo, doesnt really matter. sudo gedit /etc/sudoers
[19:22] <amikrop> Any help, plase?
[19:22] <shane2peru_> iceroot: seems that sysklogd is not installed, shouldn't that be installed by default?
[19:22] <edbian> dcherniv: Are you sure you can do that??
[19:22] <legend2440> velcroshooz: right click top panel choose add to panel >CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor  do you have that?
[19:22] <Slart> !gksudo | dcherniv, twig11
[19:22] <bruenig> dcherniv: using gedit on /etc/sudoers is a bad idea. Visudo has syntax checking to make sure you don't completely mess up your sudo permissions settings.
[19:22] <iceroot> shane2peru_: i dont know what using, debian lenny is using syslogd, if i am correct ubuntu is using ksyslogd but dont know exactly
[19:22] <edbian> dcherniv: twig11: And BTW it should be gksu gedit
[19:22] <bruenig> if you mess them up, there is no getting them back, because it would require that you use sudo and well...
[19:22] <amikrop> I am on Ubuntu 9.04, I run Pidgin 2.5.5 and Pidgin-Audacious 2.0.0 doesn't work. It just doesn't change my status.
[19:22] <shader> jrib: ok, now that I've downloaded and auto built the linux-lpia package using apt-get -b source linux-lpia, what's next?
[19:23] <shane2peru_> iceroot: right, I didn't find syslogd in the repos, only sysklogd
[19:23] <velcroshooz> legend2440: cant scale if scaling isnt enabled, monitor will show me nothing.
[19:23] <balloooza> amikrop: you do not need to say it multiple times
[19:23] <dcherniv> bruenig: not if your $EDITOR is nano, which seems to be the case with ubuntu
[19:23] <twig11> dcherniv: bruenig: I'm not sure how to use visudo, so I might want a little help when I try this. Here goes.
[19:23] <amikrop> balloooza: excuse me
[19:23] <dcherniv> edbian: yea you're right gksudo
[19:23] <iceroot> shane2peru_: ps aux | grep log   is there anything like sysklogd or so?
[19:23] <velcroshooz> oskar-: module not found after modprobe, lsmod didnt list it, i dont understand heh
[19:24] <bruenig> twig11: it is just vim
[19:24] <edbian> dcherniv: twig11: I STRONGLY suggest you use visudo and not gedit
[19:24] <amikrop> balloooza: any help, by the way? :-)
[19:24] <Spad-XIII> Slart: i managed to get my wireless working by installing linux-backports-modules-jaunty .. after installing that, and a reboot, everything worked fine .. just no wpa2 though
[19:24] <legend2440> velcroshooz: in terminal   cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies   any results?
[19:24] <Slart> Spad-XIII: huh? think you're talking to the wrong person
[19:24] <bruenig> edbian++
[19:24] <shane2peru> iceroot: hmm, seems there is syslogd, gnome-keyring atop and klogd
[19:24] <balloooza> amikrop: is this audacious po=ligin a thing that says what song you are listening to by any chance?
[19:24] <dor_> Can anyone help with an ALSA/OSS problem on Intrepid?
[19:24] <legend2440> velcroshooz: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies   any results?
[19:25] <amikrop> balloooza: yes
[19:25] <iceroot> shane2peru: then there should be logs in /var/log/
[19:25] <Spad-XIII> Slart: you helped me a few days ago, right? at least, in the logs it says Slart :)
[19:25] <RocketLauncher> How do I extend my panels onto my other MONITOR?
[19:25] <oskar-> velcroshooz:  is it compiled in? i don't know. "dmesg | grep powernow-k8"
[19:25] <shane2peru> what is odd is that when I opened up the system logs, via the system file, they were all old
[19:25] <amikrop> balloooza: it is a pidgin plugin, btw, not an audacious one
[19:25] <shane2peru> iceroot: ^^^^
[19:25] <balloooza> amikrop: and you are listening to the music on audacious, and not rythmbox (right, kinda obvious)
[19:25] <Slart> Spad-XIII: oh.. sounds like me then... well... you're welcome, I guess =)
[19:25] <amikrop> balloooza: yes
[19:25] <shane2peru> iceroot: there are system logs, however in the gui log viewer, they was nothing dated after June 24
[19:25] <iceroot> shane2peru: please no counters-trike-kiddie-smileys :)
[19:26] <rnavarro> Hi all, for some reason I don't have any devices being created in /dev/mapper, any ideas how to rescan and create these devices?
[19:26] <diddy> Pici: ERROR: 'DB5.0' is not a supported operating system.
[19:26] <twig11> dcherniv: sudo visudo /etc/sudoers returns a list of options for visudo.
[19:26] <diddy> Pici: It doesn't work
[19:26] <Pici> diddy: Yes, thats what that bug says.
[19:26] <shane2peru> iceroot: ??? I forgot to add your nick to that text above
[19:26] <dcherniv> twig11: sudo visudo
[19:26] <diddy> Pici: Yes, and they didn't provide a way to fix it.
[19:26] <legend2440> RocketLauncher: they may know in channel   #ati   if you dont get answer here
[19:26] <edbian> twig11: Read the options.  It's telling you you'
[19:26] <fwaokda> iceroot, Slart, edbian, Think I'm gonna download 64bit verison - but - it says its ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso  Does it matter that I have a Intel processor?
[19:26] <shane2peru> iceroot: I tried to use ^ apparently that is a smiley of some sort?
[19:27] <velcroshooz> oskar-: output is here - http://pastebin.com/m2fc798e2
[19:27] <RocketLauncher> legend2440 alright
[19:27] <edbian> twig11: Read the options.  It's telling you that you're starting visudo wrong..
[19:27] <Slart> fwaokda: amd64 works on both intel and amd.. it's just a name
[19:27] <Slart> !amd64
[19:27] <fwaokda> Slart, k thanks
[19:27] <velcroshooz> legend2440: 2700000 1400000
[19:27] <edbian> fwaokda: The architecture is actually named "amd_64" because AMD patented it.  A 64 bit intel processor is an amd_64 architecture
[19:27] <Pici> diddy: Well, the first reply is from a Canonical employee, whose name I recognize so I don't know what else I can tell you.
[19:27] <balloooza> amikrop: I have not used this before, so I guess I can't help much, but a good way to figure out exactly what the problem is, is to go to the website for the project (google it will usualy do it) and then read how to set it up, and see where things start going wrong, if it is a pidgen PLUGIN, then you might need to change the settings in pigden
[19:27] <edbian> fwaokda: It does not matter
[19:28] <fwaokda> edbian, haha sucks for intel ... if they care just kinda a "haha pwnt" thing i suppose :)
[19:28] <amikrop> balloooza: I have set Pidgin to let this plugin to update my status but it doesn't do so. Anyway, I will look at their website, thank you. :)
[19:28] <dor_> how can i change the default behaviour of the system to output sound using OSS instead of ALSA?
[19:28] <twig11> dcherniv: Advice?  anthony@ubuntu-machine:~$ sudo visudo /etc/sudoers
[19:28] <twig11> usage: visudo [-c] [-q] [-s] [-V] [-f sudoers]
[19:29] <edbian> fwaokda: Intel actually tried to make a 64 bit architecture before AMD called "Itanium" It tanked cause it ran 32 bit apps so poorly
[19:29] <fwaokda> edbian, ouch
[19:29] <Pici> twig11: You don't need to specify the filename, just: sudo visudo
[19:29] <edbian> fwaokda: Yeah so they blew it! :)
[19:29] <balloooza> amikrop: just had an idea, if you go into pidgen, and then go to status (a drop down menu) is there an option for "my song"
[19:29] <dcherniv> twig11: the syntax is sudo visudo
[19:29] <rgz_> fwaokda: pwnt?
[19:29] <dcherniv> twig11: thats it
[19:29] <diddy> Pici: You mean Kees Cook? I don't understand his comment. What options is he talking about there?
[19:29] <legend2440> velcroshooz: i think this guide will help   http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/16/cpu-scaling-ubuntu-battery-life-and-you-how-to-scale-your-cpu/
[19:29] <twig11> Pici: Okay, so visudo is just for editing sudoers?
[19:30] <bruenig> twig11: tis
[19:30] <bruenig> visudo is really just a wrapper for an editor
[19:30] <bruenig> makes sure that you can't quit the editor until syntax is good
[19:30] <amikrop> balloooza: no
[19:30] <fwaokda> rgz_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwnt
[19:30] <amikrop> balloooza: Here is what I found, though: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin-audacious/+bug/217949
[19:30] <diddy> Pici: He recommends: Bastille is not recommended for Ubuntu.
[19:30] <diddy> Pici: I will not use it then.
[19:30] <Pici> diddy: Indeed. Okay
[19:30] <twig11> dcherniv: okay, in visudo I'm a little lost. if its like vi, I know I'll need help because I get confused in vi.
[19:31] <fwaokda> rgz_, i don't usually use the term but since I was referring to cpu company's it was my attempt at humor :(
[19:31] <twig11> dcherniv: like how do I get ready to add a line?
[19:31] <Pici> twig11: visudo on Ubuntu will use whatever $EDITOR is set to, which is nano by default I beleive.
[19:31] <diddy> Pici: Is there another hardening tools that _is_ recommended for Ubuntu?
[19:31] <dcherniv> twig11: ESC and press i
[19:31] <velcroshooz> legend2440: this was working out of the box with the stock kernel i dont understand how a slight kernel update from synaptic is going to completely break cpu scaling where i have to reset it up from scratch
[19:31] <Alan> has a load of broken updates been pushed to the repository?  i'm getting stuff like "libssl-dev: Depends: libssl0.9.8 (= 0.9.8g-15ubuntu3) but 0.9.8g-15ubuntu3.2 is installed."
[19:31] <twig11> Pici: dcherniv: okay, let me try.
[19:31] <edbian> twig11: It's more like nano than VI really.  If that helps ;)
[19:32] <Pici> diddy: I don't know enough about hardening Linux to provide an adequite answer for you, sorry.
[19:32] <balloooza> amikrop: read the second to last post in the launchpad
[19:32] <dcherniv> edbian: is it nano or vi?
[19:32] <Slart> Alan: what repositories are you using? 3rd party? proposed?
[19:32] <Alan> i've run apt-get update, and that hasn't helped...
[19:32] <fccf> Alan: do you have the updates repository enabled?
[19:32] <oskar-> velcroshooz:  the code seems to be running and have recognized your cpu. is it perhaps an application incompatibility? somewhere in /proc or /sys are files, with you can set cpu frequency settings manually, if you write special arguments to them  (like "echo xy > cpu_freq"). you could take a careful look in there to see, if it is generally working. then you could run the controlling app manually and see, if errors occur
[19:32] <snewp> anyone here knows how to install snap fonts ?
[19:33] <Alan> fccf: gah, how the hell did that get disabled? :| thanks!
[19:33] <Slart> snewp: what are "snap" fonts?
[19:33] <amikrop> balloooza: Yeah, I did so. I guess I won't get into such trouble, I 'll wait for an official fix. Thanks, though. :-)
[19:33] <alexnet> How do I give 2 owners to a file?
[19:33] <twig11> edbian: no it doesn't really. I don't know nano either.
[19:33] <diddy> Pici: NP, thx anyway.
[19:33] <Slart> alexnet: you can't
[19:33] <dcherniv> alexnet: you cant
[19:33] <snewp> Slart: type of fonts though .. .pcf kind of fonts
[19:33] <alexnet> how do i achieve a similar result?
[19:34] <velcroshooz> oskar-: thanks for the help, i will just revert back to 2.6.28-11 i think, this is nonsense
[19:34] <balloooza> alevine: you can be in the same group as the owning group
[19:34] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: Okay I'm installing all the seemingly necessary stuff via synaptic...any idea on how to enable hardware rendering? That *was* my objective...currently it's "software rasterizer"
[19:34] <twig11> dcherniv: ESC>i just indents the first line of sudoers
[19:34] <grawity> alexnet: add both users to a single group?
[19:34] <alexnet> thanks
[19:34] <grawity> twig11: on nano, you just press Ctrl-X to exit.
[19:34] <oskar-> velcroshooz:  ok, good luck
[19:34] <dcherniv> alexnet: to achieve a same effect give the file 770 permissions, create a group, add these soon to be owners to that group and change group ownership of the file, chmod user:commongroup file
[19:34] <twig11> dcherniv: on the upside, backspace puts it back :-/
[19:34] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, sorry bud haven't ever tried before
[19:35] <twig11> grawity: I'm using visudo
[19:35] <grawity> twig11: visudo just calls your default editor.
[19:35] <Ti-dev> velcroshooz: what happened to the 2.6.30 kernel?
[19:35] <sivel> does anyone know where I could get some php5.3 packages from jaunty?  is there a PPA for that?
[19:35] <grawity> twig11: does it say "GNU nano" on the first line?
[19:35] <Sly> My question is, It seems programs run as a normal user can not open ports below 1024??? Correct me if i am wrong. is there a way to allow any user to do this and not just su.
[19:35] <Slart> snewp: ah... wikipedia sayd bitmap fonts... just never heard of it.. thanks (I have no idea btw)
[19:35] <dcherniv> twig11: hm i dunno, i should cause vi to go into insert mode
[19:35] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: oh kk, I'll just dig around...thanks for all the help man...
[19:36] <snewp> Slart: np
[19:36] <balloooza> sivel: I think php is in the default repos, need no ppa
[19:36] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, hope you figure it out
[19:36] <sivel> balloooza: for PHP 5.2.x it is.  I am looking for 5.3
[19:36] <Ti-dev> thanks :D
[19:36] <twig11> grawity: *slaps forehead* yeah it does. But I don't know how to use nano either.
[19:36] <theilluminatic> Ok, so I installed the most recent updates this morning, and after restarting, Volume Control doesn't open.  This is a problem especially because my computer has this annoying thing where whenever you boot it up, the volume is reset to zero, and is muted.  Is there a way to make it so I can open Volume Control again, and/or set the default volume to max and not muted?
[19:36] <twig11> dcherniv: it's using nano
[19:37] <grawity> twig11: nano is the simplest one.
[19:37] <dcherniv> twig11: oh, well then its easy just go the bottom of the file with down arrow or pg down
[19:37] <grawity> twig11: just use arrow keys, and type. Use Ctrl-X to exit.
[19:37] <Slart> theilluminatic: what happens if you start gnome-volume-control from a terminal?
[19:37] <balloooza> sivel: do you need this for compatibility, because if it is not in the repositorys, it is most likely not stable enough, or widly used yet (basicly, I could go on, and tell you the dissadvantages of compiling)
[19:37] <dcherniv> twig11: and then paste this dcherniv@media-center:~$ cd /usr/share/locale
[19:37] <dcherniv> twig11: err ignore that ^
[19:37] <balloooza> sivel: I could help you if you need it
[19:38] <twig11> dcherniv: grawity: Yeah, now I just discovered that at last. duh!
[19:38] <dcherniv> twig11: paste this ALL ALL=NOPASSWD:/bin/yourscriptname
[19:38] <sivel> balloooza: I need to test compatibility with a product
[19:38] <sivel> balloooza: I installed the php 5.3 from dotdeb but it seems to be broken
[19:38] <silidan> pavucontrol gives out warnings:  gtk warning, failed to set text from markup due to error, what can i do about it?
[19:39] <twig11> dcherniv: to clarify, the script is written with just the commands separated by && no introductory stuff. is that definitely all that's needed for the system to know it's executable?
[19:39] <balloooza> sivel: that is exactly one of the things I would have said, somtimes those are maintaned less, you know there is a less noisy server channel called #ubuntu-server
[19:39] <theilluminatic> 'what happens if you start gnome-volume-control from a terminal?' I'm in xubuntu, and it says that the gnome one isn't installed, should I install it?
[19:39] <Amber_Johnson> twig11,  you can add gtksudo in your script to make things run as root, like this :gtksudo firefox, will run firefox as root
[19:39] <sivel> balloooza: I will head over there
[19:39] <sivel> thanks
[19:39] <dcherniv> twig11: does it have #!/bin/bash as a first line?
[19:39] <dcherniv> twig11: you also have to make it executable with sudo chmod +x /bin/scriptname
[19:40] <twig11> dcherniv: no it doesn't
[19:40] <Slart> theilluminatic: you can just put my nickname on the start of your message.. no need to repeat my question (although it did look kind of nice and easy to follow)... let me check something.. I'm not sure if xfce has it's own volume control app
[19:41] <Titan8990> twig11, without a shebang you have to specify which interpreter to use like: bash script.sh
[19:41] <Titan8990> twig11, or a python example: python script.py
[19:41] <dcherniv> twig11: add #!/bin/bash as first line, actually can you pastebin the script?
[19:41] <dcherniv> !pastebin | twig11
[19:41] <n0gear> whats the command to see who are logged in to my computer?
[19:42] <grawity> n0gear: 'w', 'who', 'finger'
[19:42] <icedwater> Hey guys :) How do I change settings in GNOME so the desktop doesn't display contents of ~, but the contents of ~/Desktop instead?
[19:42] <n0gear> grawity: ty
[19:43] <twig11> dcherniv: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5bfc0bee
[19:43] <alexnet> Continuing my group permissions issue earlier.... i created a group called "apacheandfriends" and then add the www-data user as well as myself to the group
[19:43] <erUSUL> icedwater: edit the variable in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[19:43] <balloooza> icedwater: I belive the desktop has a gconf somwhere, and ubuntu-tweak has a setting for that
[19:43] <gartral> icedwater: the default is too display the contents of /home/*/Desktop
[19:43] <showers> rythm box isn't making a sound
[19:43] <Apollo2366> Is there a way to have a certain sound play whenever the GDM Login screen starts up, and then have another sound played upon success or failure of login?
[19:43] <grawity> icedwater: I'm sure it's in gconf somewhere... let me check.
[19:44] <alexnet> How should my Chown look?  sudo chown www-data:apacheandfriends /file/ -R   ???
[19:44] <icedwater> erUSUL, balloooza, gartral, grawity: Thanks.
[19:44] <showers> I would like to play my mp3 files from the windows partition
[19:44] <balloooza> grawity: lol, that is what I said (I just went looking too)
[19:44] <grawity> icedwater: ah, /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home_dir
[19:44] <icedwater> balloooza: I wouldn't be able to check ubuntu-tweak though. Not just yet. Will keep that in mind.
[19:44] <showers> it is easy enought to navigate over there and open the files
[19:44] <geirha> icedwater: /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home in gconf-editor
[19:44] <showers> but then the silence begins
[19:44] <Slart> theilluminatic: ok.. try starting xfce4-mixer instead.. see if you get an error message
[19:45] <icedwater> grawity: Hm, OK. So I uncheck that one?
[19:45] <Pici> !enter
[19:45] <alexnet> How do I assign file permissions to a GROUP ?
[19:45] <grawity> icedwater: if you want ~, it should be off. if you want ~/Desktop, it should be on,.
[19:45] <icedwater> Is it possible to set it to another folder?
[19:45] <JamesHoldsworth> Hi everyone, this isn't a question pertaining to linux itself, but a tutorial about linux. I found it a while ago, cleaned out my internet history, and I cant remember where to find it. I've been searching google for days. It was a really long ebook, not quite a tutorial, it had over 40 chapters, and described hardware, and the origins of binary and ascii and all that too
[19:45] <alexnet> !groups
[19:46] <alexnet> !group
[19:46] <geirha> alexnet: chmod g+w file, will give write acces to the group, chmod g-w file will remove it etc...
[19:46] <dcherniv> twig11: alright put http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7e98a17c
[19:46] <theilluminatic> slart: thanks, that opened it and so I was able to set the volume to normal, do you know how I can make it default to being on?
[19:46] <alexnet> geirha chmod groupname+w /myfile/ ?
[19:46] <JamesHoldsworth> i know it's a little vague, I'm trying to think of more specific things to mention, like when I was looking for it I was looking for a terminal tutorial... I remember they showed a picture of a mobo, and it was really old lol. It was a grey drawing lol. lol.
[19:46] <showers> How do I download codecs for rythm player please
[19:46] <Slart> theilluminatic: nope.. no idea about that.. sorry
[19:47] <theilluminatic> ok, thanks anyway
[19:47] <Apollo2366> Is there any way to configure the sound to play at the login screen?
[19:47] <Nan0fire> i have a problem with my hard disk. i did something wrong with Gparted and it has something to do with gpt/mbr partitioning tables (i think) and also with the ext4
[19:47] <geirha> alexnet: No, first you need to run chgrp, to set the group as groupowner of the file
[19:47] <Pici> JamesHoldsworth: The linux terminal? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[19:47] <geirha> alexnet: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[19:47] <Nan0fire> anyone care to help?
[19:47] <alexnet> thanks geirha
[19:47] <JamesHoldsworth> Nonono
[19:47] <RocketLauncher> I'm having this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+bug/16894
[19:47] <RocketLauncher> any solutions as of NOW?
[19:47] <JamesHoldsworth> it wasn't a ubuntu specific one. it was more of an overall linux tutoral
[19:47] <grawity> icedwater: I found ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs - open it in a text editor, fix, then logout and login
[19:47] <Pici> JamesHoldsworth: Maybe ##linux could help better then
[19:48] <JamesHoldsworth> ok lol thank you
[19:48] <Le_Cador> bsr
[19:48] <sirakim> hi
[19:48] <Nan0fire> i messed up somewhere along the way with gparted and the problem is that i can only see a PART of my drive, 30gbs, when my drive is 120 gbs
[19:49] <Nan0fire> anyone has any idea ?
[19:49] <Slart> RocketLauncher: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:50] <john_decuir> good day all
[19:50] <sirakim> i search the room speaking french
[19:50] <Slart> !fr | sirakim
[19:50] <RocketLauncher> Slart JAUNTY
[19:50] <twig11> dcherniv: did that.
[19:50] <devill> Nan0fire: what did u do exactly
[19:50] <Nan0fire> i messed up my harddisk and now i can't see the whole disk, except in the livcd of jaunty
[19:51] <Slart> RocketLauncher: ouch.. a bug from hoary coming to life like in a bad horror movie
[19:51] <dcherniv> twig11: cool did you finish sudoers part?
[19:51] <Nan0fire> i don't know i did a couple of things many times
[19:51] <twig11> dcherniv: no sir/ma'm
[19:51] <dcherniv> twig11: hm, well save my version of the script in /bin/fixwifi
[19:51] <Nan0fire> devill: i did have ext4 partitions and i erased them with parted magic
[19:51] <RocketLauncher> Slart I coul always try a different WM besides Gnome, if I know for sure it will work :D
[19:52] <twig11> dcherniv: I saved it in /bin/connect
[19:52] <dcherniv> twig11: then put this line in /etc/sudoers: ALL ALL=NOPASSWD:/bin/fixwifi
[19:52] <dcherniv> twig11: /bin/connect is probably not a good idea
[19:52] <devill> Nan0fire: parted magc? then?
[19:52] <grawity> dcherniv: um, you forgot the username before this line.
[19:53] <twig11> dcherniv: why not? I'll change it but why?
[19:53] <dcherniv> twig11: as there might be a script that exists with that name in ubuntu repos
[19:54] <geirha> dcherniv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[19:54] <devill> Nan0fire:during live session are u able to see ur whole hdd?
[19:54] <Slart> RocketLauncher: I would suggest opening that bug again.. attach a screenshot of your own and information on ubuntu version, flavour and so on
[19:54] <Nan0fire> devill i saw only a part of my drive there, not the whole thing (i think because parted magic couldnt percieve the ext4) so i tried to do something new and used on the part i could see the gpt partitioning table
[19:54] <dcherniv> grawity: ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/bin/fixwifi
[19:54] <neoteny> here's a silly question:  on the volume control widget you scroll up to increase the volume if your mouse is in one location but when you mouse is in the other location you scroll down to increase the volume.  am i the only one who thinks they should be in sync?
[19:54] <dcherniv> grawity: is that right?
[19:54] <RocketLauncher> Slart that bug dates to 2005 holy
[19:54] <Slart> RocketLauncher: I can't verify the bug since I just have one monitor attached..
[19:54] <RocketLauncher> Slart and I will do that
[19:55] <Cube_> hey, how can i get a tablet to work with ubuntu!?
[19:55] <Neo_Selen> can someone helpy me with a dual boot issue im having?
[19:55] <Nan0fire> devill: in the livecd sessions of jjaunty yes, in parted magic, i only see what i see in windows (half of my disk!)
[19:55] <Slart> RocketLauncher: indeed it does.. but it's been playing peekaboo every now and then.
[19:55] <geirha> dcherniv: That will give all users access to run that command as root, except that you're missing a space after NOPASSWD:
[19:55] <Nan0fire> do you understand the prob or should i tell more?
[19:56] <dcherniv> geirha: yea thats the idea
[19:56] <RoyL> hi
[19:56] <twig11> dcherniv: ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD :/bin/fixwifi like that?
[19:56] <Cube_> anybody?
[19:56] <RocketLauncher> Slart damnit I just.. "scrot -m"
[19:56] <RocketLauncher> Slart and it takes a screenshot perfectly
[19:56] <dcherniv> twig11: ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /bin/fixwifi
[19:56] <RocketLauncher> Slart Only thing is I got to join this screenshot together with the one of the other half.
[19:57] <Radtoo> neoteny: In sync with...? If you want to suggest a feature that sounds more like a gnome bugtracker thing than ubuntu specifically.
[19:57] <Nan0fire> devill: any ideas?
[19:57] <Slart> RocketLauncher: ah.. but that's another app..  but still.. if that works for you.. great =)
[19:57] <devill> Nan0fire: use fdisk ..
[19:57] <Nan0fire> i tried already
[19:57] <devill> Nan0fire: what do u see
[19:58] <Nan0fire> i see all i guess.. i deleted all partitions with it, and i made a new ntfs with it ( with help of an irc buddy)
[19:58] <albertico> has anyone had any issues with the intel 4965 wireless on ubuntu 9.04??
[19:58] <devill> Nan0fire:u can recover the partition table ..if it hasnt lost already...
[19:59] <twig11> dcherniv: okay how do I save and quit visudo?
[19:59] <neoteny> Radtoo, it might be gnome.  when you click on the icon and it pulls up the slider when your mouse is on the icon scrolling up increases the volume.  however if you move your mouse up to the slider you scroll down to increase the volume. seems to the scrolling should be consistent.
[19:59] <dcherniv> twig11: ctrl+x
[19:59] <jbk`> twig11: same as quitting + saving in vim
[19:59] <RoyL> hi
[19:59] <twig11> dcherniv: and I added a comment before the line: #Allows all users to run the following script as root. I can do that right?
[20:00] <neoteny> Radtoo, right now i'm in the information gathering phase :)
[20:00] <dcherniv> twig11: yea thats fine