[00:00] <mikeIsNew> nsadmin2, I don't know, but it used to work for previous ubuntu versions
[00:00] <CoJaBo> sure
[00:00] <nsadmin2> "for" is the first word in a BASIC for/next loop
[00:00] <dsnyders> rww, what?  Are you saying that the ip address can change depending on who logs in?
[00:01] <rww> dsnyders: sure, if for example you're using wifi and the users configured different networks to associate with
[00:01] <mikeIsNew> ActionParsnip: don't know if everything was sent here but i do see a wireless network interface here
[00:02] <nsadmin2> mikeIsNew, oh, then it could be that the firmware and/or firmware loader got lost in the upgrade?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> mikeIsNew: if you run:  dmesg | less     you can see the file it expects then see what provides it
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> mikeIsNew: I'd also run:  sudo apt-get install linux-firmware
[00:04] <mikeIsNew> ActionParsnip: linux-firmware is already installed
[00:04] <mikeIsNew> ActionParsnip: I don't really know what to make out of dmesg | less. What do I have to look for?
[00:05] <w30> dsnyders, I looked at the back of a terminal on a screen at the Mayo Clinic and I saw a list of about 75 network addresses, ha!
[00:05] <mikeIsNew> nsadmin2: I am afraid so. I already tried to install the windows wifi stuff through ndiswrapper, did not work either
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> mikeIsNew: the word firmware, anything about networks. Its very readable
[00:05] <w30> dsnyders, pick one
[00:05] <DeltaDrone> If I use Gparted in ubuntu to shrink an ntfs partition with data on it. will it do so in a way that preserves the data?
[00:06] <adzy> can anyone recommend a tool for burning avi to dvd ??? so i can play it in dvd player
[00:06] <adzy> ?
[00:06] <adzy> i know windows has converx to dvd
[00:06] <adzy> what about ubunt?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> DeltaDrone: it should, be sure your backups are sufficiently recent in case of catastrophe
[00:06] <DeltaDrone> adzy, a lot of dvd players will play divx these days
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> adzy: devede
[00:06] <w30> DeltaDrone, it tells you if you go too small
[00:06] <adzy> ActionParsnip, thanks
[00:07] <adzy> DeltaDrone, thanks
[00:07] <DeltaDrone> w30, the data maybe written all over the hard drive
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> adzy: it makes a DVD ISO from videos and then you can burn it slowly
[00:07] <DeltaDrone> w30, it may need to actively move files on the disk
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> adzy: even lets you make a menu screen etc
[00:07] <w30> DeltaDrone, recommend to defrag Windows first
[00:08] <adzy> ActionParsnip, that sounds pretty good!
[00:08] <mikeIsNew> ActionParsnip: well I guess that's the problem [   48.379243] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/ucode5.fw" not found
[00:08] <DeltaDrone> hmm, then i have a different question, how safe is it to write to ntfs from ubuntu
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> mikeIsNew: perfect, use it to find guides
[00:09] <DeltaDrone> i heard that the 3rd gen ntfs was quite good
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | mikeIsNew
[00:09] <DeltaDrone> but not sure how you make sure it is in use
[00:09] <w30> DeltaDrone, its been safe for a while, there was problems writing across networks
[00:09] <yeats> DeltaDrone: advice: try using Windows built-in "shrink partition" function and see if that buys you enough space
[00:10] <yeats> (assuming Vista/Win7)
[00:10] <DeltaDrone> i'm using xp pro x64
[00:11] <DeltaDrone> yeats: I'm using xp pro x64, keep forgetting to put names at the front
[00:11] <rww> I think XP Pro has it also.
[00:11] <mikeIsNew> ubottu: thanks, I'm trying this right now. Rebooting, hope this works, Bye for now.
[00:13] <arooni-mobile> hi folks... is there a way to auto sign me into chat accounts on 11.04;  i have to do it manually on every restart
[00:13] <yeats> arooni-mobile: with Epiphany?
[00:14] <arooni-mobile> yeats, ya
[00:14] <yeats> arooni-mobile: you mean starting the program or configuring the accounts every time?
[00:14] <arooni-mobile> yeats, accts have been configured;  this is for signing in to a parituclar chat acct
[00:15] <rww> yeats: empathy, not epiphany ;)
[00:15]  * rww gets them mixed up too
[00:15] <yeats> rww: arg - thanks
[00:16] <felipe_Brz> My question is here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55168/regarding-folder-synching-mapping   Thank you!
[00:16] <yeats> arooni-mobile: System -> Preferences -> Startup Programs (iirc) will let you add it there (if you mean you want empathy to start when you log in)
[00:16] <DeltaDrone> if i just do a standard "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/d" operation in the terminal, should this give me stable write access?
[00:16] <DeltaDrone> to ntfs?
[00:17] <DeltaDrone> or do i need some more complicated commands?
[00:17] <yeats> DeltaDrone: you might need 'sudo mount -t ntfs...'
[00:18] <DeltaDrone> it has mounted, but i don't know if it has done so in a stable writeable way
[00:18] <DeltaDrone> yeats, could you write out the whole command for me as i'm dense and affraid
[00:20] <yeats> DeltaDrone: I would try 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/d'
[00:20] <dsnyders> Okay, I deleted the Auto eth0 and moved the manual config data into eth0.
[00:20] <DeltaDrone> yeats, thanks
[00:20] <yeats> DeltaDrone: but no need for fear - your system will let you know if it's wrong ;-)
[00:20] <DeltaDrone> i just don't want to f up my file system
[00:21] <mikeIsNew> Hi I'm back, this time via WiFI!
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> DeltaDrone: just make sure backups are good and you have nothing to worry about
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> mikeIsNew: wtg :)
[00:21] <mikeIsNew> installing bcmwl-kernel-source did the trick
[00:23] <mikeIsNew> I'm just wondering why i had to install this myself, wireless used to work out of the box with previous ubuntu versions...
[00:24] <mikeIsNew> Anyways, thanks a lot for your effort, ActionParsnip, it's appreciated
[00:25] <adzy> !samba
[00:26] <mikeIsNew> oh while I'm at it. A friend of mine asked me yesterday what would be the most convenient way to mount a network share (samba) in  a linux fs
[00:26] <mikeIsNew> any ideas?
[00:26] <Ynodde_> mikeIsNew:smbmount ?
[00:27] <Ynodde_> mikeIsNew:in what way actually, form fstab ?
[00:27] <mikeIsNew> Ynodde_: hm.. I'
[00:28] <mikeIsNew> m n ot even sure about that
[00:28] <mikeIsNew> I  guess it would be mounted on demand
[00:28] <nsadmin2> mikeIsNew how do you mean "in a linux filesystem"?
[00:29] <Ynodde_> mikeIsNew: i usually just browse the windows network form linux for "on demand" mounts
[00:30] <Ynodde_> mikeIsNew:if i want a permamount i would add it to my /etc/fstab and give it a nice static place onder /mnt/sharename
[00:30] <dsnyders> Hi all!  How do you get ifconfig to display all the addresses on a multihomed interface?
[00:30] <rww> dsnyders: perhaps ifconfig -a
[00:31] <rww> oh wait no, that's all interfaces. hrm.
[00:31] <mikeIsNew> Ynodde_: Yeah, I usually browse through nautilus, but my friend asked how to actually mount a network share, and admittedly I didn't know a satisfying answer
[00:32] <Crash03> how to add my wlan driver i have it for ubuntu but dont know what to do with it
[00:32] <eoss> http://www.nydailynews.com/tech_guide/2011/07/29/2011-07-29_house_panel_approves_isp_snooping_bill_hr_1981.html
[00:32] <mikeIsNew> Ynodde_: I'm  not really following you with the fstab attempt, what would would you add there?
[00:32] <rww> !ot | eoss
[00:33] <Ynodde_> mikeIsNew:i will have to lookup exact command, since nautilus has such nice supprt i havent used it anymore ;-)
[00:33] <Crash03> any one tell what to do with my wlan driver to make it work please
[00:34] <mudcat> my pc won't boot up. fans turns on and then off while led in front stays lit. what's wrong?
[00:34] <mikeIsNew> Crash03: What exactly do you have? A binary executable?
[00:34] <Crash03> ya ita .bin file
[00:34] <mikeIsNew> Crash03: did you try to run it?
[00:35] <Gasseus> Umm... I can't get my microphone to work properly. Can someone help me?
[00:35] <Crash03> with what do i open it with
[00:35] <Syniq> 1
[00:35] <Syniq> 1
[00:35] <Syniq> grrrr
[00:35] <FloodBot1> Syniq: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:35] <Ynodde_> mikeIsNew:http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=2696 has a nice explanation to do it securely
[00:35] <mikeIsNew> Crash03: Start a terminal session; Go to the directory your executable is in, and run "./<filename>.bin
[00:36] <Syniq> Oh, right, because I'm deliberately missing the / key on purpose.
[00:36] <Crash03> ok
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> mikeIsNew: nautilus and pcmanfm can mount samba
[00:36] <Gasseus> Can someone help me with my microphone problems?
[00:37] <Syniq> Have I mentioned that I hate auto-response bots from the bottom of my heart?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: what is the issue?
[00:37] <mikeIsNew> ActionParsnip: But nautilus "forgets" the mount as soon as I close it, right?
[00:37]  * rww feeds some cookies to FloodBot1
[00:37] <Gasseus> ActionParsnip I'm trying to record from it, have tried everything I can, but the audio won't record.
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> mikeIsNew: add it as a bookmark, is is mounted til you unmount it or rebbot
[00:37]  * Syniq gives Big Brother a wide berth. TTFN.
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[00:38] <Ynodde_> mikeIsNew:Bookmarks are a nice solution for quick remounting
[00:38] <bluezone> Are the ubuntu devs planning on supporting python 3 in the near future (as default) instead of python 2?
[00:38] <Faustus2> some of my single-mouse-clicks are working like double-clicks. I think this is a registered bug, but is there a workaround? ubuntu 11.04
[00:39] <nsadmin2> bluezone, look at present debian unstable for clues; talk to the maint
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Faustus2: is the system set to single click open in mouse prefs?
[00:39] <bluezone> Faustus2, my stupid 2 cents: have you tried unplugging/ repluggin? :)
[00:39] <Faustus2> bluezone: yup :)
[00:40] <bluezone> damn! lol
[00:40] <rww> bluezone: It's not happening for oneiric. Things like that are decided at UDS every six months, so 12.04 and above aren't decided yet.
[00:40] <Gasseus> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655399/
[00:40] <Faustus2> ActionParsnip: mouse prefs? but only some single-clicks are working like double clikcs, and randomly :S
[00:40] <DeltaDrone> is there some reason why ubuntu doesn't seem to be able to play mp3s?
[00:40] <mikeIsNew2> ActionParsnip: Bookmarking is a great idea, i didn't even think of that
[00:40] <DeltaDrone> or download a plugin that would enable it to?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: ok run: gedit /tmp/alsa-info.txt.XWZk3hzpog    pastebin the text please
[00:41] <mikeIsNew2> wth did i get kicked and can't reconnect?
[00:41] <bluezone> rww, ah, well i should probably learn python 3 then, it would be a strike a bad luck if they don't
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Faustus2: is there a pattern> certain file types etc?
[00:41] <Gasseus> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655400/
[00:41] <rww> mikeIsNew2: your connection to freenode hiccuped, by the look of it
[00:42] <Faustus2> DeltaDrone:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted* clementine
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Faustus2: what make and model is the mouse? have you tried a different usb port?
[00:42] <mikeIsNew2> awesome
[00:42] <Faustus2> DeltaDrone: then use clementine to play mp3s
[00:42] <DeltaDrone> ah
[00:42] <Faustus2> ActionParsnip: tried different usb
[00:42] <DeltaDrone> Faustus2, i don't see it under applications
[00:42] <Faustus2> ActionParsnip: no pattern, is like this in all apps.
[00:42] <felipe_Brz> Could anybody answer me this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/55168/regarding-folder-synching-mapping
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: can you pastebin /etc/lsb-release    thanks
[00:43]  * rww bets natty
[00:43] <Faustus2> DeltaDrone: install it first
[00:43] <w30> Faustus2, have you  tried dfferent double click speeds
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> rww: the alsa script didn't pick it up, so we'll see ;)
[00:44] <Gasseus> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655401
[00:44] <rww> ActionParsnip: kernel version :)
[00:44] <Gasseus> its natty
[00:44] <Faustus2> w30 yup
[00:44] <w30> Faustus2, speeds in the config settings not hand speed
[00:45] <Paddy_NI> Does anyone know how I can create a bootable Windows XP USB Flash/Pen disk from Ubuntu... I am using a netbook
[00:45] <Gasseus> Paddy_NI Not legally
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image
[00:45] <Faustus2> w30: yup system > prefs > mouse
[00:45] <Paddy_NI> OH?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: why do you have 2.6.38-11 ?
[00:45] <qin> felipe_Brz: does symlinks do not work? inotify with rsync (either per user or as root)
[00:45] <Gasseus> ActionParsnip I use the upstream stuff
[00:45]  * rww bets -proposed
[00:45] <DeltaDrone> Faustus2, i'm running of the live cd
[00:46] <Paddy_NI> Gasseus:  You're joking man... :-(
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> rww: what is the support stance on proposed?
[00:46] <rww> ActionParsnip: approximately, "lol"
[00:46] <Gasseus> Paddy_NI Windows XP License
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> rww: nice
[00:46] <felipe_Brz> qin: I've never used either of those.. Do they solve my problem?
[00:47] <Faustus2> DeltaDrone: ahhh.. im not sure its possible then.. :(
[00:47] <Benkinooby> hi i want to use a compositing window manager. i read that kwin can be used standalone, but on log in i can not select it. any ideas?
[00:47] <Paddy_NI> Gasseus: Yeah several
[00:47] <Paddy_NI> Gasseus: All legit.. yes I am a Mug but I have to have them for my job
[00:48] <qin> felipe_Brz: Try "man ln" first, if this works, just add all users to ftp group and set right permissions.
[00:48] <Gasseus> Paddy_NI: Did you try ##Windows?
[00:48] <brandon> Hello, by any chance is anyone here a programmer that knows HTML and CSS?
[00:48] <Gasseus> brandon yeah why?
[00:48] <qin> brandon: /join #web
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: try adding: options snd-hda-intel model=asus position_fix=1 enable_msi=1   to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    but BEFORE that, boot to the STABLE kernel. Does it work there?
[00:48] <rww> ActionParsnip: (I checked the -proposed versioning, btw. It is indeed -11)
[00:48] <felipe_Brz> qin: ok I will. thanks
[00:48] <EEMPHASISS> New: Where is a samba mount mounted when I have an encrypted home dir... it's not .gvfs where I expected id.
[00:49] <Gasseus> ActionParsnip Stable kernel causes kernel panic D:
[00:49] <Paddy_NI> Gasseus: It's going to be a redirect I already know.. catch 22 I am running Ubuntu only on this netbook and asking in a windows channel
[00:49] <EEMPHASISS> *it*
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> brandon: try a web dev channel for html questions
[00:49] <qin> felipe_Brz: Or, "man inotify" "man rsync", so you can run "live" synchrinisation between folders.
[00:49] <Gasseus> Paddy_NI Eh, they'd likely be able to help
[00:50] <brandon> Okay, thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
[00:50] <Gasseus> Paddy_NI Don't say you use ubuntu, use wine for whatever they say to do
[00:50] <tomgeorge> hello everyone
[00:50] <rww> brandon: (e.g. #html, #css, #web)
[00:50] <ejo> Where's the best place to ask about Xinerama problems?  Is there a channel just for ubuntu video display questions?
[00:50] <tomgeorge> any place where I can find help on computer vision?
[00:50] <rww> ejo: no, there isn't
[00:50] <ejo> rww: thank you... so right here then?
[00:50] <rww> ejo: indeed
[00:51] <tomgeorge> rww any place where I can find help on computer vision?
[00:51] <tomgeorge> Specifically face recognition?
[00:51] <rww> tomgeorge: no idea
[00:52] <Ariel_Calzada> hi i've installed 11.04 and when my laptop restart with gnome , the conky font-size is too big, if i restart conky the font size looks good any idea???
[00:52] <tomgeorge> that's bizzare
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Ariel_Calzada: try adding a small sleep (delay) to the starting of conky
[00:53] <emmkai> i have a remote computer and a local computer, i want to get data from my remote computer
[00:53] <chalcedony> does anyone know if 11.04 will support nvidia GPU and Auzentech audio cards ?
[00:53] <ejo> rww: thanks.  So, 3 24" monitors rotated 90 degrees (portrait orientation) in Xinerama.  Same monitors are ultra sharp when horizontal (landscape).  When vertical, pixels on two of the three are jumpy, almost as if it were an analog connection (but all three are digital, DVI).  I need priorities for trying to track down the problem.  The monitors?  The video cards (HD Radeons)?  The driver?...
[00:53] <ejo> ...(ATI proprietary fglrx, somewhat suspect)?  Gnome Display Manager?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: nvidia gpu work great
[00:53] <chalcedony> i can't find it with google but maybe i'm not looking in the right place
[00:54] <rww> chalcedony: 11.04 (as the name implies) came out in April. If you mean 11.10, try #ubuntu+1 ;)
[00:54] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, thanks i thought so
[00:54] <k1rk> I have an odd question...
[00:54] <EEMPHASISS> when I have an encrypted home dir, where is a samba share mounted?...it's not .gvfs where I expected it.
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> emmkai: you can use openssh-server to give an SFTP service
[00:54] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, do we need drivers for it?
[00:54] <ejo> For the record, the two monitors which are pixel-wiggly when vertical under Xinerama are Samsungs and the one that is stable is a Dell.  All 24" widescreens.
[00:54] <emmkai> ok, ActionParsnip, what if i dont have access to the router of my remote network ?
[00:55] <k1rk> The last few times I've setup mdadm software raid, I've done it using the Ubuntu setup utility.  I need to make a new RAID.  I went into Disk Utility and Gparted to try to format the drives, but I can't find that "Use as RAID" type of format option that existed in the setup process.  How do I "format drives for RAID" without that setup process?  If this makes a difference, they're 3TB drives so I have to use GUID partition table.
[00:55] <k1rk> Are the "raid partitions" just empty partitions?
[00:55] <k1rk> What filesystem can I make them?
[00:56] <k1rk> Right now I have totally empty unprepared drives from manufacturer.
[00:56] <EEMPHASISS> .gvfs is empty? where are shares mounted when I have an encrypted home dir?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: nouveau drivers are in a default install, there is teh ability to install proprietary drivers if you desire
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> emmkai: then you are stuck, your router is doing it's job and keeping unwanteds out
[00:57] <args[0]> is ubuntu (32|64?) good for 128MB RAM VPS?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> emmkai: use TAB to complete nicks ;)
[00:57] <Ynodde> chalcedony:ubuntu will actually ask you right after a fresh install (nvidia/amd)
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> args[0]: 32bit will be fine
[00:57] <bluezone> args[0], should be okay
[00:57] <ejo> To clarify, what I mean by "pixels are jumpy when these monitors are in portrait orientation": everything is stable when no action is taken.  But every time I open a new window or follow a web page link or open a new browser tab (etc).  It's as if the display recalculates sub-pixel smoothing of text and fails to make a final decision.  Some characters render out a little bit "pinched".  And...
[00:57] <ejo> ...it's not repeatable, load the same page twice and text renders a little different.  Or scroll and then scroll back, and the problem is temporarily fixed.
[00:58] <args[0]> bluezone: ActionParsnip : I heard that 32 will consume a minimum of 80% of 128
[00:58] <unreal-dude> how stable should the 11.04 minimal CD install be?
[00:58] <emmkai> ActionParsnip: wait, does it make any difference whether the remote computer is connected via ethernet cable or wireless ?
[00:58] <args[0]> bluezone: ActionParsnip : 64 is worse for sure
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> unreal-dude: as stable as a full install
[00:58] <bluezone> args[0], where did you hear that
[00:58] <ejo> This display problem is one of those things, I'm afraid, where I would have some recourse on Windows, but on Linux the answer so far is "well, support for pretty much all of that is experimental, so cross your fingers."
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> emmkai: none, it is still behind the router
[00:59] <args[0]> bluezone: a friend, he actually has this..
[00:59] <emmkai> but, can i access my router through the ethernet cable ?
[00:59] <emmkai> to configure it ?
[00:59] <unreal-dude> i just installed with minimal 11.04, install finished fine, it rebooted, it showed ubuntus startup animation, then stopped on flashing cursor, htop shows that nothing is trying to run now
[00:59] <EEMPHASISS> >>>Samba<<< shares don't mount to >>>.gvfs<<< when I have an encrypted home dir... where is it mounted? ?
[01:00] <w30> Paddy_NI, ubuntu has a starupdisk creator that uses your iso. Have you got a wndows iso?
[01:00] <bluezone> args[0], this is your system ram or your video card ramn
[01:00] <args[0]> bluezone: system ram, no GUI for that VPS.. all on CLI
[01:00] <RenatoSilva> there is people saying non-LTSes are just betas, how about it
[01:00] <unreal-dude> o, i should add, this in virtual box with 32bit
[01:01] <g2bl33t> i want to move all my .pdf files to a dir called ebooks
[01:01] <g2bl33t> how do i do that with the terminal?
[01:01] <k1rk> mv *.pdf /home/user/ebooks
[01:01] <wslayer> gnome is looking like crap, it won't even alt-tab!
[01:01] <unreal-dude> mv /path/to/thefiles/*.pdf /path/to/ebooks/
[01:01] <k1rk> Or that. ^
[01:01] <g2bl33t> why didnt mv *.pdf  > ebooks work?
[01:01] <k1rk> I assumed you were already cd'ed into the folder with the pdfs. lol
[01:02] <EEMPHASISS> g2bl33t, try: find . -name \*.pdf -exec cp (or mv) {} ebooks \;
[01:02] <g2bl33t> yes lol
[01:02] <k1rk> > isn't part of the syntax for the command...
[01:02] <unreal-dude> > is not for outputing what you normally see, not moving files
[01:02] <ejo> because you don't mv x > y
[01:02] <wslayer> how do I reinstall gnome?
[01:02] <bluezone> args[0], well if its cli you really shouldn't have a problem, : Ubuntu Server (CLI) Installation  300 MHz x86 processor  128 MiB of system memory (RAM)
[01:02] <unreal-dude> *err, -n-o-t-
[01:02] <args[0]> can I run rsync on a server to call 2 different servers to sync each others? thanks
[01:02] <MXIIA> does anyone know what programs would be able to turn a USB piano input into midi?
[01:02] <bluezone> args[0], its right on the dot requirements, more ram is better but it should work fine
[01:03] <args[0]> bluezone: yeah it is working fine with him even with the min usage of 80% of 128MB RAM, thanks for your input.
[01:04] <wslayer> how do I reinstall gnome and gdm?
[01:04] <ejo> So no one knows about this problem with portrait-oriented monitors having subpixel text rendering problems (only in portrait orientation) --
[01:04] <ejo> Or even where I should look first
[01:05] <MXIIA> does anyone know what programs would be able to turn a USB piano input into midi?
[01:05] <ejo> I'm just hoping for a suggestion on whether to first pursue the video card, the monitors, the driver, GDM, or what.
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> MXIIA: timidity maybe..
[01:05] <MXIIA> hmm.
[01:05] <EEMPHASISS> Shares are not mounted to .gvfs when I have a shared drive.  anyone know where are they?
[01:05] <args[0]> can I run rsync on a server to call 2 different servers to sync each others? thanks
[01:05] <bluezone> ejo, is your video card any good?
[01:06] <ejo> It's a pair of HD Radeon 4870s, and everything is fine on the system if I use landscape orientation.
[01:06] <ejo> no crossfire, just 2 cards so I have enough DVI outputs for 3 monitors
[01:06] <bluezone> hmmm
[01:07] <EEMPHASISS> Shares are not mounted in .gvfs when I have an *encrypted* *home* *dir*.  anyone know where they are mounted?
[01:07] <ejo> So I know the system is fine with handling the resolution etc.  It feels more like someone might not have set up the monitors' internal product info to properly report the right frequencies when vertical... or something.
[01:07] <bluezone> ejo,  did you just install ubuntu now?
[01:07] <qin> args[0]: Assuming server have ssh: rsync -avz /source/ -e ssh user@box:/path/ --exclude=something
[01:07] <ejo> bluezone, a month ago
[01:08] <ejo> but just changed over to this monitor configuration
[01:08] <args[0]> qin: but both servers should be able to see each others.. ok
[01:08] <unreal-dude> meh, going back to straight debian, not wanting to deal with this
[01:08] <bluezone> lmao
[01:09] <Paddy_NI> w30: Are you sure that the Startup disk creator will work with a microsoft OS..
[01:09] <qin> args[0]: Make sure to not sync dot files between servers
[01:09] <ejo> unreal-dude, I've had some trouble with the latest VirtualBox crashing on my 11.04 host.  So far I've only tried Win7 32-bit as the guest OS.
[01:09] <bluezone> ejo, i can't say for sure, i heard that ati cards aren't well supported on lunux but that still shouldn't be the issue, i think it's a bug
[01:09] <args[0]> qin: ins't that a default?
[01:09] <bluezone> linux*
[01:10] <ejo> bluezone: thanks for your thoughts.  I just wish I knew if it was more likely to be a bug in... Xinerama... GDM... ATI's proprietary driver... or what
[01:10] <dinesh_> Hello friends i am using ubuntu 11.04...in the panel  clock, shutdown icon's  are all gone suddenly i dont know what i did.. can anybody help to bring it back
[01:10] <qin> args[0]: Well, running rsync from ~ or / is bad idea.
[01:10] <bluezone> ejo, did you try not using proprietary drivers?
[01:10] <args[0]> qin: i agree
[01:10] <ejo> I pretty much have to use ATI's driver if I want all 3 of these monitors standing vertically next to each other sharing a desktop.  But their proprietary "fglrx" driver is one they just sort of adapted from their FireGL cards and isn't particularly well supported
[01:11] <args[0]> qin: servers will be syncing raw files only
[01:11] <bluezone> nvm then
[01:11] <ejo> bluezone: It looks like on standard drivers (non-proprietary) I can only run a 2-monitor desktop max.
[01:11] <qin> args[0]: raw files?
[01:11] <ejo> I could switch to a tiling window manager like XMonad and that eliminates the multi-monitor-desktop issue, but that's another story.
[01:11] <args[0]> qin: image files
[01:12] <qin> args[0]: Any file.
[01:12] <ejo> I have this sinking feeling my issue is with ATI's driver and there's no recourse there other than beg them to update it.  But it would be awesome if I could just find out (for example) that I only need to tweak a pixel timer parameter in a config file somewhere!
[01:13] <args[0]> qin: i will be syncing raw image files only, and will not sync from ~ or /
[01:13] <bluezone> ejo, my best guess is gnome have you tried uhh, if i remember correctly i think it's metacity --replace or something? give me a min
[01:13] <EEMPHASISS> Where are samba shares mounted when I have an encrypted home dir? it's not under .gvfs where I expected.
[01:13] <ejo> bluezone: ooh okay, will gladly try any suggestion
[01:14] <bluezone> ejo, ah they changed it, terrible, DOES anyone know the code to reload gnome?
[01:14] <alex--> EEMPHASISS: #samba
[01:14] <OmegaForte> Window manager?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: didn't know you could reload gnome
[01:14] <EEMPHASISS> alex: thanks... trying there...
[01:14] <OmegaForte> bluezone The Window Manager you mean?
[01:15] <qin> args[0]: rsync have some regex, but better to control it by path, so /my/folder/with/images is better than *.jpg (or whatever)
[01:15] <alex--> EEMPHASISS: i already asked there
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: do you mean compiz / metacity...the window manager
[01:15] <bazhang> bluezone, choose classic , if thats what you mean
[01:15] <bluezone> Omega, ActionParsnip  nvm found it http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reload-the-gnome-or-kde-panels-without-restarting/
[01:15] <ejo> bluezone: I think I see what you're getting at... that would be great if simply reloading the display manager or window manager (now that my monitor configuration is as i want it) would fix this.
[01:15] <bazhang> !classic | bluezone
[01:15] <alex--> !unity
[01:15] <alex--> !gnome
[01:15] <bluezone> no no thats omg i'm getting spammed jesus lol
[01:15] <ejo> bluezone: Incidentally I am using classic Gnome.  This configuration crashes Linux under Unity.
[01:15] <Nisstyre> yes
[01:16] <args[0]> qin: sure, another question.. can rsync send/write to file a log and state whether sync was successful or not? (with some statistical data)
[01:16] <ejo> I mean, "crashes Ubuntu"... eh
[01:16] <alex--> !nas
[01:16] <OmegaForte> args[0], I don't know about stats, but it should be able to...Lemme hit the man.
[01:16] <alex--> !server
[01:17] <alex--> Is there some light-weight server system?
[01:17] <bazhang> alex--, /msg ubottu
[01:17] <OmegaForte> args[0], Try --stats
[01:17] <bluezone> ejo, well every time i have wierd problems like this i usually reinstall or do this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reload-the-gnome-or-kde-panels-without-restarting/
[01:17] <Ynodde> alex--:server is lightweight, mostly due to the fact there is no gui software
[01:17] <ejo> bluezone: Thanks, I'll give that a look.
[01:17] <args[0]> OmegaForte: its okay, you dont have to.. i will take a look at that later on, just thought someone got the answer aleady
[01:17] <alex--> Ynodde: ok :)
[01:18] <OmegaForte> args[0], I'm not doing anything, waiting on a finish to set.
[01:18] <args[0]> OmegaForte: :-)
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: so how does one reload gnome exactly?
[01:18] <bluezone> ActionParsnip, i was talking more about the panels: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reload-the-gnome-or-kde-panels-without-restarting/
[01:18] <OmegaForte> args[0], Yeah, that may do what you want.
[01:19] <ejo> bluezone: Oh.  Well all that is is restarting the window manager without having to reboot.  Since reboots don't solve my problem, that won't either.  But thank you!
[01:19] <owen1> ActionParsnip: done with memory test. all is good. is it possible that this laptop just incapable of ubuntu?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: ahh I see, you  should have said panels
[01:19] <OmegaForte> owen1,  What's it doing?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> owen1: not really they all can do it
[01:19] <args[0]> OmegaForte: rsync + cronjobs = awesomeness
[01:19] <bluezone> ActionParsnip, sorry haven't been on ubuntu in awhile :P i'm very forgetful
[01:19] <owen1> OmegaForte: the CD just run but never stop running. even when i chose 'try without install' or install.
[01:19] <OmegaForte> args[0], Totally.  Just hangs?
[01:20] <owen1> OmegaForte: the screen just show the menu. and the cd is doing something.
[01:20] <args[0]> OmegaForte: Can large corporations rely on rsync?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: its cool
[01:20] <owen1> Ynodde: this cd works with other laptop i have
[01:20] <Ynodde> owen1:is installing from usb not a option? is also faster then form cd
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> owen1: you could try the alternate ISO, it installs in text mode
[01:21] <OmegaForte> owen1, Well, if it's acting a ponce, try cleaning the drive out
[01:21] <qin> args[0]: Sure: Just > your rsync command to data file, like: rsync [all stuff here...] >  `date +%Y%m%d` , and you have your "log" file.
[01:21] <Ynodde> owen1:hmmm, dirty drive?
[01:21] <bobweaver_> join #kde
[01:21] <OmegaForte> args[0], We're not corperate size, It's just a minecraft server.
[01:21] <args[0]> qin: awesome,thanks
[01:21] <owen1> Ynodde: from some reason, i can't boot from usb
[01:21] <owen1> OmegaForte: Ynodde how to 'clean' the drive
[01:22] <OmegaForte> owen1, What's the laptop.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> owen1: CD head cleaners
[01:22] <speedrunnerG55> can someoe help me?
[01:22] <Ynodde> owen1: a q-tip and some alcohol, go oldskool
[01:22] <Ynodde> ^^
[01:22] <OmegaForte> speedrunnerG55, What do you need?
[01:22] <owen1> OmegaForte: sharp pc-mp30
[01:22] <args[0]> OmegaForte: oh okay
[01:22] <owen1> OmegaForte: Ynodde it behave the same with it's built-in cd rom and the usb one I just bought.
[01:23] <Ynodde> owen1:maybe there is some bios bug for your laptop?, is there a bios update available?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> owen1: tried a USB install?
[01:23] <Ynodde> owen1:i also missed what brand laptop it is
[01:23] <OmegaForte> owen1, Okay, well, If the disk works in another computer, it may not be able to load a kernel mode driver without derping. Might be a hardware conflict.
[01:24] <owen1> ActionParsnip: from some reason the laptop does not boot from usb. i checked in bios the option that say - usb boot, but still not working.
[01:24] <qin> args[0]: Whatever you do, read man rsync, it is very smart tool, and easy to use for complex tasks.
[01:24] <OmegaForte> owen1, It might be defective
[01:24] <owen1> OmegaForte: should i try debian
[01:25] <owen1> ?
[01:25] <OmegaForte> owen1, You are using debian.
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> owen1: try the alternate CD
[01:25] <OmegaForte> owen1, Just a different build.
[01:25] <owen1> ActionParsnip: isn't alternate CD similar to debian?
[01:25] <args[0]> qin: thanks, i've already used it for syncs over local network, this time i want to set a cron on a remote server to call 2 VPSs and sync b/w them, i will read man pages.
[01:25] <owen1> what about wubi?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> owen1: it uses text mode installer and gives a desktop OS
[01:26] <OmegaForte> owen1, No notes for it. I'd say go for it. Don't be afraid to try new stuff.
[01:28] <owen1> ok
[01:28] <speedrunnerG55> OmegaForte, i need hekllp with my dual monitors
[01:28] <OmegaForte> speedrunnerG55, Okay. GPU?
[01:29] <speedrunnerG55> i connected an lcd  and a crt monitor to my pc, via a nvidia gforce 6200, the lcd with a dvi cable and the crt with a vga cabble, i  tried to configure it with nvidia x server. drivers that donloaded automatically.
[01:29] <OmegaForte> speedrunnerG55, Okay. Uh..That's some age right there homie, but you'd need to go into X server Display in the program, and configure them there.
[01:30] <speedrunnerG55> age?
[01:30] <OmegaForte> speedrunnerG55, That's an old gpu.
[01:30] <speedrunnerG55> i know
[01:31] <speedrunnerG55> i needed something for agp
[01:31] <OmegaForte> speedrunnerG55, Anyway, just start the nvidia X configuration application, go to X Server Config, and define the monitors.
[01:32] <speedrunnerG55> OmegaForte, how do i di that?
[01:32] <OmegaForte> speedrunnerG55, System, Administration, nvidia X server configuration.
[01:34] <speedrunnerG55> i got thatere. then what
[01:34] <speedrunnerG55> there^
[01:34] <speedrunnerG55> thern what
[01:35] <predatore> Partial Update broke my UI. So: I need to get some help on stripping all compiz/metacity/unity components and starting from scratch.
[01:35] <OmegaForte_> speedrunnerG55, Define the displays. Click the one that's not activated, click ACTIVATE, then set it up, move it, and save it.
[01:35] <predatore> Partial update also took away my GUI boot options, can't boot into classic ubuntu anymore =\
[01:36] <Jose> JoseP
[01:36] <mattalexx> During an "apt-get install" download, where are the files downloded to?
[01:36] <JoseP> quick question
[01:36] <OmegaForte_> predatore, Okay, startx, then log out, and see if you can change it there.
[01:36] <JoseP> how do you reinstall a program?
[01:36] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, If it's gone, just apt-get packagename again.
[01:37] <JoseP> it's not gone
[01:37] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, okay, apt-get purge packagename
[01:37] <predatore> Ok thanks omega :) I'll give that a try.
[01:37] <JoseP> Ok thanks
[01:37] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, Then just reinstall it.
[01:38] <JoseP> I'm trying to remove CUPS because it's been very problemaic but this what what I get
[01:38] <JoseP> problematic*
[01:38] <JoseP> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:38] <JoseP>  cups
[01:38] <JoseP> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:38] <FloodBot1> JoseP: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:38] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, Why are you trying to remove CUPS!?
[01:38] <JoseP> o lawd
[01:38] <JoseP> so I can reinstall it later
[01:38] <JoseP> and
[01:38] <JoseP> I don't need it right now
[01:38] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, Oh, well okay, sudo apt-get purge cups
[01:38] <bazhang> JoseP, easy on the enter key, please
[01:39] <JoseP> that was the output
[01:39] <adminewb> ubuntu stock kernels are a royal pain wrt cpu clock & core voltage control: powernow-k8 is not modularized, nor the intel counterpart if that's what your system runs on; is it possible anyway to just customize a fid/vid table without rolling a whole custom kernel config for the purpose? using http://linux-phc.org/ for some guidance
[01:39] <JoseP> I got it, bazhang
[01:39] <JoseP> OmegaForte_ yea that didn't quite work
[01:39] <OmegaForte_> adminewb, I don't know, but you might wanna go ask over on the arch forums. If anyone would know, they would.
[01:40] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, What's it returning?
[01:41] <JoseP> It's returning:
[01:41] <adminewb> OmegaForte_, #ubuntu-i386 what you mean?
[01:42] <JoseP> Errors were encountered while processing: cups E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:42] <OmegaForte_> adminewb, if anyone would know a shortcut to kernel changes, it'd be the guys at Arch.
[01:42] <JoseP> ^ That's the output OmegaForte_
[01:42] <adminewb> OmegaForte_ as in Arch linux distro?
[01:42] <lfender> i know  this is a ubuntu room but is there annnny window 7 cell phone users i need help plz asap
[01:42] <JoseP> adminweb it is
[01:43] <OmegaForte_> adminewb, Yeah. A hardcore mode distro. Those guys are absolute pro's.
[01:43] <adminewb> ok thanks much
[01:43] <Troy^> im having a problem with gnome 2 im not sure what it is but it almost becomes completely unresponsive to my clicks acts strange.. i dont know how to explain it
[01:43] <bazhang> lfender, connected to ubuntu support in some way?
[01:43] <JoseP> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 11
[01:43] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, Can you install any dummy packages, or anything else?
[01:43] <JoseP> if I don't fix it I'll shoot it lol
[01:43] <magic1> Hello
[01:43] <lfender> not realy
[01:43] <JoseP> uhh what should I install?
[01:43] <JoseP> something simple?
[01:44] <bazhang> lfender, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:44] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, How about something tiny, like skype.
[01:44] <JoseP> ok let me try
[01:44] <magic1> is spamming allowed here?
[01:44] <bazhang> magic1, no
[01:44] <JoseP> sudo apt-get install skype
[01:44] <OmegaForte_> magic1, Why would spamming be allowed anywhere..
[01:44] <JoseP> oops
[01:44] <magic1> lol
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: nano is smaller ;) and open source too :)
[01:45] <JoseP> nano is a text editor, right?
[01:45] <JoseP> I use it
[01:45] <rww> JoseP: yes
[01:45] <JoseP> yea I use it
[01:45] <magic1> does someone here look like enrique?
[01:45] <OmegaForte_> I prefer Vi.
[01:45] <JoseP> especially over SSH
[01:45] <JoseP> I heard there's also Pico
[01:45] <bazhang> magic1, stop please
[01:45] <magic1> stop what? D:
[01:45] <OmegaForte_> Pico's good...I'll stick to vi though.
[01:45] <rww> JoseP: nano is a Free Software clone of pico.
[01:46] <JoseP> I should try vi sometime
[01:46] <spid3rnet> hi i need a help i have install xterm window and i was writing a script using it but when i try to run tow xterm window at the same terminal the second 1 dont open so any help
[01:46] <bazhang> magic1, the nonsense chit chat
[01:46] <magic1> =(
[01:46] <magic1> ok
[01:46] <bazhang> !ot > magic1
[01:46] <magic1> ok i'm sorry
[01:46] <Starcraftmazter> is it possible to choose gnome when installing ubuntu 11.04?
[01:47] <Starcraftmazter> or well the default gnome shell
[01:47] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, yes, choose classic
[01:47] <JoseP> ok OmegaForte_ this is interesting
[01:47] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, Just go to pastebin.com and give me a link.
[01:47] <Starcraftmazter> okies
[01:47] <JoseP> ok
[01:47] <bazhang> !classic | Starcraftmazter
[01:47] <spid3rnet> any help
[01:47] <OmegaForte_> spid3rnet, Do you need help?
[01:47] <spid3rnet> yaaaaaa
[01:48] <adzy> can anyone help me, when ever i leave my computer for about 1 hr and come back its just a black screen, with the caps lock key flashing and another light flashing
[01:48] <OmegaForte_> spid3rnet,  Okay, what's your problem?
[01:48] <OmegaForte> 'bout time.
[01:48] <spid3rnet> i have download the xterm window but i cant run xterm window at the same terminal
[01:48] <spid3rnet> tow xterm window at the same terminal
[01:48] <spid3rnet> *
[01:49] <JoseP> OmegaForte: http://pastebin.com/eQ7UdeXS
[01:49] <OmegaForte> spid3rnet, Okay, so you're using...What? Hang on a tick. I got you, I'mma try something to see if I can repeat it.
[01:49] <Troy^> would there be a reason im not able to get full bandwidth could it be a driver issue?
[01:50] <spid3rnet> so you can help me
[01:50] <JoseP> it gets stuck at those two last lines and that doesn't change for hours
[01:50] <OmegaForte> spid3rnet, I'm gonna try to replicate your issues.
[01:50] <spid3rnet> ok thanks
[01:50] <OmegaForte> JoseP,  Looks like you broke something. I can't tell what though.
[01:51] <JoseP> these problems started when I first installed cups
[01:51] <OmegaForte> spid3rnet, Uh, why are you using xterm instead of the default gnome terminal...
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade
[01:52] <spid3rnet> i need it on a script its like little pop up of /bin/bash so its look good for my script
[01:53] <OmegaForte> spid3rnet, What...? I don't even, what is this? Why don't you just use byobu? I think that's what you're going for...?
[01:53] <OmegaForte> spid3rnet, Are you trying to achieve a multiplexed terminal session?
[01:54] <spid3rnet> ya i now but xterm like i say its g00d for my scripts ok
[01:55] <FZombie> network-manager in gnome is flawed badly and lacks good features =(
[01:55] <spid3rnet> let be on the point what xterm does he help to run excute commad
[01:55] <spid3rnet> in a little /bin/bash window
[01:56] <FZombie> any better network manager for VPN? Like one that lets me select VPN only for giving applications access to the internet
[01:57] <seanmc98> dos anyone want to help me install heimdall on ubuntu 11.04 on 32 bit pc
[01:57] <tolpan> seanmc98 with wine?
[01:58] <spid3rnet> so any 1
[01:58] <spid3rnet> for help
[01:58] <seanmc98> no clue im a nooba dn installed ubuntu alongside windows with wubi
[01:59] <Ninjagamer> Hello.
[01:59] <tolpan> seanmc98 so....there is no problem.  I gues...
[02:00] <g2bl33t> Well, I made a script that opens up a new python document but I want it to open in python and not the text editor
[02:00] <owen1> i use alternate cd (rescue mode) to install ubuntu. here is the error i get: 'An error occured while mounting the device you entered for your root file system(/dev/sda1) on /target. please check the syslog for more information' any clues?
[02:00] <seanmc98> tolpan: what do you mean no problem. i dont have heimdall installed thats a problem
[02:01] <Ninjagamer> I've been having an issue in which I open a Libreoffice text document and it opens in another workspace. Anyone know how to stop this from happening? I want it to open in the same workspace that I am in.
[02:01] <tolpan> seanmc98: Do you have install wine? This is the first step! ;)
[02:02] <tolpan> seanmc98: sudo apt-get install wine
[02:04] <tolpan> seanmc98: Or, you can use synaptic.....
[02:05] <seanmc98> whats that
[02:06] <tolpan> seanmc98: http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/
[02:06] <yanick_> hi, I have an .avi and a .srt file that I try to view in Totem; the .srt seems to get loaded as I see that "Subutitle #1" is loaded, but there are no subtitles shown during playback. I can't seem to find anyone else on Google with this problem, or some other issue regarding .srt not get loaded at all (was resolved), but this is not my case. Anyone would know the problem of this?
[02:06] <yanick_> or rather a solution to this?
[02:07] <owen1> i use alternate cd (rescue mode) to install ubuntu. here is the error i get: 'An error occured while mounting the device you entered for your root file system(/dev/sda1) on /target. please check the syslog for more information'.  is my laptop's harddrive is damaged?
[02:08] <OmegaForte> owen1, It might not be able to load the controller driver...
[02:08] <owen1> OmegaForte: ok. any suggestions?
[02:08] <nsadmin> I don't help here, but I'll just point out the message asked you to check the syslog
[02:09] <owen1> nsadmin: how do i do that?
[02:09] <OmegaForte> owen1, He's right.
[02:09] <adminewb> if one's using the same logins on different distros sharing /home file system, it seems too easy to run into config conflicts; is there a common answer to this difficulty?
[02:09] <bazhang> yanick_, try mplayer? put them in the same folder? have the same name for both?
[02:09] <yanick_> hmm... I just tried opening the .srt file and overwriting it (saving as utf-8). it works now... weird, gedit could open the file just fine
[02:09] <nsadmin> again, I don't help here
[02:09] <owen1> OmegaForte: where is the syslog? how do i get into terminal?
[02:10] <JoseP> sorry ActionParsnip I stepped away
[02:10] <OmegaForte> owen1,  Uh, the last time I used a boot terminal was 1998. Uh...It'll be in /dev/ramfs I think?
[02:10] <JoseP> let me get you that output asap
[02:10] <yanick_> bazhang, thanks. I don't install mplayer because it usually doesn't work for me... I don't know why... perhaps it doesn't like my video card (O_o)
[02:10] <owen1> OmegaForte: but how do i launch a terminal?
[02:11] <nsadmin> I got ubuntu installed, I told it to forget about the boot loader... still running debian, I'll see if I can get it booted
[02:11] <bazhang> yanick_, I'd try it in future, more support and better features, plays everything
[02:11] <OmegaForte> owen1, If you're using a gui mode, try CTRL-ALT-T, that may work. But I'd try running it in terminal mode.
[02:12] <yanick_> bazhang, I usually never have any problem with Totem..... besides, the problem was really (and most probably) caused by the .srt file saved as cp1251.....
[02:13] <raginkestrel> Does anyone know how to adjust the screen brightness in Xfce?
[02:14] <owen1> OmegaForte: it's textmode. ct+alt+t didn't do anything
[02:14] <OmegaForte> owen1, Then you're in terminal.
[02:15] <owen1> OmegaForte: but i see the install menua
[02:15] <owen1> menu
[02:15] <nit-wit> raginkestrel, usually the fn - arrow keys
[02:15] <JoseP> ActionParsnip, you still here?
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: sup
[02:16] <JoseP> ok I got that output for you
[02:16] <JoseP> I'm preparing a pastebin
[02:16] <OmegaForte> owen1, Well, I'm not familar with the new textmode installs. Like I said, last time I used a boot terminal was 1998.
[02:16] <raginkestrel> nit-wit, doesn't seem to work.
[02:16] <tomgeorge> are there any good MUD clients for GNOME?
[02:17] <nit-wit> raginkestrel, mine don't work on my external monitor with a netbook, but s=do with the netbook scree.
[02:17] <owen1> OmegaForte: np. thanks
[02:17] <tomgeorge> any good MUD clients for GNOME?
[02:17] <owen1> how to access the terminal in alternate install?
[02:17] <JoseP> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Suppxqeb
[02:18] <vigilant> how can compiz be turned off? In xchat specially, when I drag a channel it shows this preview of the whole channel list, how can I Disable compiz plugins?  Like i said?
[02:19] <nit-wit> *if
[02:19] <seanmc98> no
[02:19] <seanmc98> it wont finish
[02:20] <JoseP> OmegaForte it seems that what ActionParsnip told me to do is working
[02:20] <Ninjagamer> does anyone know how to fix the issue where opening a libreoffice doc opens up in another workspace? not the one you're in.
[02:20] <vigilant> nit-wit: When I did, metacity --replace, it wouldn't kill it, rather it would hang my screen, I had to ctrl + C out of it
[02:20] <JoseP> ...I take that back
[02:20] <vigilant> nit-wit: do I have to wait for it to kill it for sometime?
[02:20] <tolpan> I can't get the problem! Do you have any error massage?
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: failing that then jump into /var/cache/apt/archives and force install the cups deb
[02:20] <nit-wit> vigilant, hmm well thats about my only suggestion.
[02:20] <JoseP> ok ActionParsnip... What's the command for that?
[02:20] <vigilant> okies
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: sudo dpkg --force-all -i filename
[02:21] <Cerrdor> Anyone know how to get the guestaddons iso on my desktop in Ubuntu?
[02:21] <AgentGREEN> cer - using virtualbox
[02:22] <AgentGREEN> ?
[02:22] <nit-wit> Cerrdor, the addons for virtual box are run in the guest, which version are yoiu running.
[02:23] <JoseP> ActionParsnip: I'm assuming filename is cups
[02:23] <nit-wit> Cerrdor, is ubuntu the guest>
[02:23] <Cerrdor> yes
[02:24] <JoseP> k
[02:24] <nit-wit> Cerrdor, in the top panel is the guest additions just clck to mount then run the linux set.
[02:25] <JoseP> ok ActionParsnip
[02:25] <JoseP> another problem
[02:26] <JoseP> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/1228gBUn
[02:26] <ghostnik11> can anyone tell me what this means in grub language: set root='(/dev/sda,msdos1)'
[02:27] <OmegaForte> Wow. I was going to help him....
[02:27] <OmegaForte> But he just /part'd
[02:27] <nit-wit> Cerrdor, here is a link that can help you find them if needed. http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbox-guest-addons.html  a little older but the basic info is there.
[02:27] <Cerrdor> I have clicked the mount three times
[02:27] <Cerrdor> it doesnt mount
[02:28] <ghostnik11> can anyone tell me what this means in grub language: set root='(/dev/sda,msdos1)'
[02:28] <seclm193> I don't know why, but this is the fourth installation of Ubuntu and it all of a sudden just freezes at the login screen.
[02:28] <OmegaForte> ghostnik11, Grub language huh? I didn't know grub was it's own language. Anyway, that means the root folder is defined as that drive's partition, and that's the type.
[02:29] <JoseP> tbh with you guys, I'm not happy with Natty
[02:29] <OmegaForte> JoseP, It actually sounds like your install is damaged.
[02:29] <zakkaufman> Natty is fine, it's just headed in a new direction. Unlike any other distro out there.
[02:29] <JoseP> well it was an upgrade from ubuntu 10, and ever since I've been having problems
[02:29] <ghostnik11> okay so that would mean root folder is at hd(0,0) or hd(0,1)
[02:30] <seclm193> Anyone familiar with the amd C-50?
[02:30] <JoseP> I can't really afford to downgrade though, OmegaForte
[02:30] <zakkaufman> Upgrades are always riskier than fresh installations.
[02:30] <ghostnik11> OmegaForte: Okay so that would mean root folder is at hd(0,0) or hd(0,1)
[02:30] <OmegaForte> ghostnik11, set root='(/dev/sda,msdos) SDA is the first drive in the list.
[02:31] <JoseP> indeed they are
[02:31] <seclm193> I give up on ubuntu.  anyone know of what has the best driver support?
[02:32] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Why are you giving up?
[02:32] <bluezone> seclm193, best driver support? windows, if your a gamer you might as well use it
[02:32] <ghostnik11> OmegaForte: msdos? thats the part i don't get like I know its suppose to be like /dev/sda1
[02:32] <zakkaufman> Try Fedora for more bleeding-edge stuff.
[02:32] <bluezone> if ever you want to try it again you can use it with virtual box or vmware
[02:32] <zakkaufman> Ubuntu is the easiest, though.
[02:32] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, where did you get that set?
[02:32] <owen1> i use alternate cd (rescue mode) to install ubuntu. here is the error i get: 'An error occured while mounting the device you entered for your root file system(/dev/sda1) on /target. please check the syslog for more information'.  here is the last part of my syslog: http://pastebin.com/iAqPQRjG
[02:33] <Guest72042> does vmware come with blackbuntu?
[02:33] <OmegaForte> ghostnik11, Well, it's documented in a man somewhere. Might want to start there. I'd assume sda1 is 0 0, since it's the first partion.
[02:33] <owen1> i see: FATAL: Module ext2 not found.
[02:33] <bluezone> Guest14087, not sure what that is but probably not, itsall the iso and use it for the installation with vmware
[02:33] <owen1> and umount: can't umount /target: Invalid argument
[02:34] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: from grub.cfg, i have been trying to get back into my ubuntu partition for couple of days now as i installed a fedora 15 along side but it took over mbr and is using grub 1, Omegaforte
[02:34] <bluezone> someone actually called their os blackbuntu lol?
[02:34] <JoseP> yea I'm looking at it
[02:34] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, you still have a OS with grub2
[02:34] <Coder7> Guest72042: vmware has pretty strict licensing - usually it can't be distributed
[02:34] <JoseP> "Penetration Testing Distribution"
[02:34] <ghostnik11> Omegaforte: okay so its hd(0,0)
[02:34] <JoseP> I'm not going to try Fedora any time soon
[02:34] <OmegaForte> ghostnik11, I don't see why it wouldn't be.
[02:35] <Coder7> Guest72042: vmware wants folks to register and get it from them directly
[02:35] <JoseP> a friend of mine screwed up his entire killer setup because of that
[02:35] <bluezone> Coder7, he can use virtual box thought
[02:35] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: well yeah my ubuntu 11.04 is grub2 by default and my fedora is grub 1, but the problem is my grub one doesn't see ubuntu
[02:35] <Coder7> bluezone: yes, he can use vmware too, but neither come pre-installed
[02:35] <Guest72042> that was my next question
[02:36] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, make it easy boot a Natty cd and follow this link to put grub2 in the mbr with natty in control.  set root='(/dev/sda,msdos1)'
[02:36] <Coder7> I know both virtual box and vmware work fine within ubuntu
[02:36] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, sorry this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[02:36] <JoseP> they do coder7
[02:37] <Guest72042> I already duel boot natty and windows, can I combined bbuntu with natty?
[02:37] <Coder7> JoseP: thanks for your agreement...
[02:37] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: thanks will do, and so that way ubuntu's grub will take over and see both operating systems?
[02:37] <Coder7> Guest72042: combine?
[02:38] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, it will if you haven't stuck grub legacy in natty while messing around, which is a easy fix.
[02:38] <JoseP> OmegaForte
[02:38] <Guest72042> so I have all the tools of blackbuntu in Ubuntu
[02:38] <JoseP> I'm force removing it
[02:38] <JoseP> it might work
[02:38] <witeshark> has anyone had incomplete updates from chromium?
[02:39] <agnesia1981> ada ang bisa ngajarri saya install nmap di ubuntu gak ya?saya coba pki command"sudo apt-get install nmap "kok gagal terus yah
[02:39] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: lets say grub legacy is stuck into natty will i be able to fix that?
[02:39] <OmegaForte> JoseP, Yeah, that'd work. Or just run a backup, and do a full install.
[02:39] <Coder7> Guest72042: sometimes you can add the repos for a seperate distribution and then add the packages
[02:39] <bazhang> !id | agnesia1981
[02:39] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: or a no go? for that one and i am royally screwed
[02:40] <JoseP> OmegaForte
[02:40] <Zeratul2k> Hi everyone!
[02:40] <Guest72042> repos? must I go through and add each tool?
[02:40] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, yes you will chroot in to natty and purge grub grub-pc grub-common the reinstall the last two.
[02:40] <JoseP> can I downgrade back to 10.10 doing a backup?
[02:40] <nit-wit> *then
[02:40] <bazhang> JoseP, no
[02:40] <OmegaForte> JoseP, there's your answer, faster than I could reply.
[02:40] <bazhang> JoseP, full reinstall
[02:40] <JoseP> damn
[02:40] <JoseP> I mean backup, full reinstall and what not
[02:40] <wslayer> KDE is not logging to my user
[02:41] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, that link the third option at the default is the chroot method.
[02:41] <JoseP> then load the files again
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: the file isn't called 'cups'   press TAB after you type cups and it will autocomplete
[02:41] <JoseP> would that work at all?
[02:41] <bazhang> wslayer, logging what
[02:41] <Coder7> Guest72042: hold on a second
[02:41] <JoseP> Okk thanks ActionParsnip
[02:41] <witeshark> i am thinking of going to 11.04, but i suppose i can't while update manager still has incomplete updates for GNOME and for chromium - is that right?
[02:41] <Zeratul2k> I have a little problem here, trying to solve it. There's this .jar file I need to run on different computers (on windows and ubuntu) that reads a file that's sitting on the same folder. The problem is, when i double click it in Ubuntu, the working directory seems to be the user's home directory, so the jar can't find the file and dies
[02:41] <bazhang> Zeratul2k, minecraft?
[02:42] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: okay thanks right now looking over steps for reinstalling and fixing grub2 with boot-repair, will do the third option as you say if i have put legacy grub on natty
[02:42] <Zeratul2k> any way i can specify the working directory WITHOUT having my user have to go into the command line?
[02:42] <Zeratul2k> nope, it's a password keeping app of sorts, with some xml files and other things
[02:42] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, if you just transfer the file using the link default be sure to use a natty cd, the chroot can be used with any ubuntu basically.
[02:42] <kingspider> hey any programmers out there delt with Boost and cmake
[02:43] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: looking for my natty cd right now
[02:43] <JoseP> ActionParsnip: these are the files I get when I press tab http://pastebin.com/yQfiCRQG
[02:43] <seclm193> OmegaForte, about to give up on linux on the laptop
[02:43] <JoseP> which one should I do?
[02:43] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Why? ATI integrated?
[02:43] <JoseP> seclm193: driver issue?
[02:43] <seclm193> not sure
[02:43] <wslayer> bazhang: i type my user and password and press enter but it doesn`t log
[02:43] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, sounds like you understand lots of people on the channel know this and help
[02:43] <kingspider> anyone for help with cmake and boost
[02:43] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Then why are you giving up
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: sudo dpkg --force-all -i cups_1.4.6-5ubuntu1.3_i386.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[02:44] <JoseP> thanks
[02:44] <Coder7> Guest72042: you shouldn't have to add everything individually. If you know the repositories and there is a high-level dependency package, you can install that package and everything else will follow
[02:44] <kingspider> i cant get cmake to link or detect BOOST
[02:44] <seclm193> JoseP, after my fourth install.  the system will run great for a few days, then start freezing at login
[02:44] <Coder7> Guest72042: for example, there is an ubuntu-studio package that installs all of the video/audio editing stuff
[02:44] <seclm193> OmegaForte, after my fourth install.  the system will run great for a few days, then start freezing at login
[02:44] <JoseP> seclm193 what laptop are you using?
[02:45] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Okay, are you messing with root at all?
[02:45] <seclm193> JoseP, Acer Aspire 5250
[02:45] <JoseP> hmm
[02:45] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, have you ever used the bootscript?
[02:45] <JoseP> I'm not sure
[02:45] <seclm193> omegaforte, nope
[02:45] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: if you say so, but only understand b/c i have been reading on spear for like 4 to 5 days on ubuntu and fedora forums looking for way to solve dilemma
[02:45] <seclm193> omegaforte, just installed virtualbox
[02:45] <JoseP> I have an HP Pavilion and it has all of the imaginable driver issues ever
[02:45] <Zeratul2k> any idea on how to make it so that a jar's working directory is where it sits, instead of the home directory? Need to run it from a USB from different computers, so copying it to home directory is not an option. User is linux-illiterate so running it from command line is no option either.
[02:45] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: no i have never used bootscript?
[02:46] <OmegaForte> seclm193, So, what are you doing during that time between it working and it not?
[02:46] <kingspider> anyone use cmake and boost
[02:46] <Guest72042> ah, I see, what are repositories?
[02:46] <wslayer> how do I create a new user on the command line?
[02:46] <xangua> !anyone | wslayer
[02:46] <bazhang> !repo > Guest72042
[02:46] <seclm193> omegaforte, just working on a project in windows in virtualbox mainly.  haven't had any time to do much more
[02:47] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, if you want to run it and pastebin it I can tell you if you will need to chroot. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[02:47] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Why aren't you using the in-built virtualbox-ose?
[02:47] <wslayer> xangua: what? I asked a real question.
[02:47] <seclm193> josep: my processor is an amd c-50 and graphics is a radeon 6250
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: is it working through now?
[02:47] <JoseP> yea IDK
[02:47] <JoseP> ActionParsnip... Nope :(
[02:47] <Guest72042> I see, that's great thank you
[02:47] <seclm193> omegaforte: i did.  used the ubuntu software to install
[02:47] <xangua> wslayer: was for kingspider sorry eeeee;)e
[02:47] <Zeratul2k> so nobody knows how to set the working directory for a .jar?
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: what does the apt-get -f install     output?
[02:47] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Well, there's one problem, ATI.
[02:47] <JoseP> it gets stuck on the preparing to replace cups 1.4.4
[02:48] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, the script generates a text file pastebin the whole thing if you want to.
[02:48] <seclm193> omegaforte, well... kinda can't change that
[02:48] <wslayer> so how do I create a new user?
[02:48] <JoseP> ok so I hit ctrl + c and this is what I've gotten so far
[02:48] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: okay downloading it now
[02:48] <OmegaForte> seclm193, The ATI drivers are notorious for being wonky. Try booting in safe graphics mode.
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: you will need to use the force install til you get the packages square. This is one of the massive weaknesses of package based systems
[02:48] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto wslayer
[02:48] <seclm193> omegaforte,  didn't install any ati drivers the last go around
[02:49] <seclm193> omegaforte, one thing i can do is login in failsafex
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: I'd also advise you run:   sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get upgrade   so that the packages are redownloaded and don't mix with the old versions
[02:49] <JoseP> ok
[02:49] <OmegaForte> seclm193, well then it looks like the xorg config is referencing a bad driver, or is just generally bork'd. Rebuild the xconf and try then.
[02:49] <JoseP> ActionParsnip the Upgrade is freeing disk space
[02:50] <JoseP> I'll try the apt-get -f install after this is done
[02:50] <seclm193> omegaforte, i'm kinda still in the newbie stage.  how would i go about rebuiding the xconf?
[02:51] <OmegaForte> seclm193, You'd boot recovery, failsafe graphic mode, and look for an option that says "x config" in it, and choose "build new xorg config" or something similar. I havent' done it in awhile, so I lack the specifics.
[02:52] <seclm193> omegaforte, i did that and no go on the reboot.
[02:52] <seclm193> omegaforte, is there a way to remove the graphic driver and make sure the opensource is loaded/
[02:52] <Zeratul2k> is the working directory problem OpenJDK specific or does the Oracle version have that problem as well?
[02:52] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Well, I don't know anything else to try. Other than failsafe, jockey, remove the driver, and install the open driver..
[02:53] <seclm193> omegaforte, jockey/
[02:53] <seclm193> ?
[02:53] <OmegaForte> seclm193, That's how you install and remove licensed drivers, jockey.
[02:53] <nit-wit> Cerrdor, hows it going?
[02:54] <seclm193> omegaforte, is it installed by default.  i'm not sure how to install the opensource driver
[02:54] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: here's paste bin, your going to probably say what i have been attempting when u see the results in the paste bin http://paste.ubuntu.com/655445/
[02:54] <Cerrdor> got it
[02:54] <Cerrdor> it actually mounted under the system folder not the desktop
[02:54] <Cerrdor> so I felt tarted
[02:55] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Okay, jockey is installed by default, as it's a system dependant. and you'll have to FIND the drivers and install them. I can't help you that far.
[02:58] <Zeratul2k> well, guess i'll advice my user to go back to windows or something, then...
[02:59] <Zeratul2k> while i find how to set that working directory
[02:59] <seclm193> omegaforte, going to try something.  i'll brb
[02:59] <bonhoffer> if i ssh into my ubuntu server, can i scp back to the host?
[03:00] <witeshark> is anyone familiar with chromium browser and language packages not updating rightly (and some GNOME languages as well)?
[03:00] <czervik_> Hi, just installed 11.04 on a new gateway sx2803. It has the Intel G43 Express chipset. The screen resolution is off, I can't see the left or bottom of the screen. I have it connected to a samsung dlp via HDMI. There are only 3 settings when I run the monitor app and they are all off. Can someone point me in the right direction? I don't have a xorg.conf file
[03:00] <bonhoffer> i am with a shared isp -- i always push out (scp out)
[03:00] <bonhoffer> i have no idea what my local ip is and don't think my firewall will let me scp a file backwards
[03:00] <bonhoffer> but i remember with ftp that i could push back to the host shell
[03:00] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, you have it in natty but I think your okay to just try the default on that link, to just load from the cd, you haven't gotten in and run a grub update to infect the grub2 files the grub-legacy is just sitting ther a sfiles as of now. Worse case scenario, you will chroot in and run sudo apt-get purge grub grub-pc grub-common; and  then run sudo apt-get install grub-pc grub-common, when asked where grub goes to it will be sda ise the spac
[03:00] <nit-wit> e key to mark it and don't worry about the ask for adding more to the kernel just leave as is.
[03:01] <bonhoffer> otherwise -- i could try to put the file in a public location and download via http
[03:01] <Coder7> bonhoffer: you can use rsync
[03:01] <bonhoffer> Coder7: why rsync, but not scp?
[03:01] <bonhoffer> it seems rsync uses ssh right?
[03:01] <Coder7> bonhoffer: you probably could scp, I'm just more familiar with rsync
[03:02] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, I'm going out for dinner in a half hour so others can help if needed if I'm not here.
[03:02] <Coder7> bonhoffer: rsync <user>@<host>:/path/to/file ./
[03:02] <Coder7> bonhoffer: that will copy your remote file back to the current directory locally
[03:02] <bonhoffer> got it -- i just have a file on my web-server and i am on a laptop behind a firewall, that is the problem -- there is no user@host . . .
[03:02] <Coder7> bonhoffer: how do you ssh into the remote host now?
[03:02] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: cool, u enjoy your dinner and have a good night, i will get everything working again thanks to your instructions
[03:03] <bonhoffer> Coder7: oh -- i get it -- sorry, my bad -- i just log out of the web server . . .
[03:03] <bonhoffer> stupdity . . . sorry
[03:04] <bajah> hey guys need some help with crossover
[03:04] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, no problem you can hardly mess up grub since it can be purged and reloaded.
[03:04] <nit-wit> *grub2
[03:04] <bazhang> bajah, try a crossover channel
[03:04] <rift345> @find wicked
[03:04] <rift345> @find pink
[03:04] <JoseP> yo ActionParsnip
[03:04] <JoseP> I think that worked
[03:04] <bazhang> rift345, not that kind of network
[03:04] <bajah> @do u know of any bazhang
[03:04] <seclm193> omegaforte, just rebooted into failsafe.  opened jockey and i have not activated the proprietary drivers
[03:05] <bazhang> !alis | bajah
[03:05] <seclm193> omegaforte, should i activate
[03:05] <bajah> thanks alot
[03:06] <seclm193> how do you check to see which graphic driver you are using/
[03:07] <bazhang> seclm193, lspci in terminal
[03:07] <bazhang> whoops
[03:07] <bazhang> seclm193, scratch that
[03:07] <JoseP> ActionParsnip, you here?
[03:07] <bazhang> seclm193, try jockey-gtk
[03:07] <rww> seclm193: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log, look for lines that start with e.g. "[    16.585] (II) RADEON(0):" (I'm using radeon)
[03:08] <JoseP> OmegaForte
[03:08] <JoseP> I was able to install and uninstall skype
[03:10] <seclm193> rww, you have radeon.  let me ask you a question.  my problem: after a few days, my computer freezes at login, but i can still boot into failsafex
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: sup
[03:11] <seclm193> rww, it seems to have something to do with the xorg config file.  do i need to use the drivers that came with ubuntu? or activate the proprietary driver
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: all square?
[03:11] <rww> seclm193: Unity + my ATI card + radeon = a mess. I use KDE instead and everything's fine.
[03:11] <JoseP> I think so
[03:11] <JoseP> what should I try next?
[03:11] <JoseP> I really need to fix the GUI on this thing
[03:11] <rww> I didn't try Unity + fglrx, because fglrx annoys me.
[03:11] <seclm193> rww, i tried kde on this machine and it seems a little laggy
[03:15] <seclm193> rww, found it.  it seems that i'm missing an xorg.conf file, but i do have a xorg.conf.failsafe file
[03:15] <JoseP> ActionParsnip should I try to remove CUPS?
[03:15] <nsadmin> what's the address part for a ubuntu package mirror
[03:15] <share> hi
[03:16] <share> do I need gvfsd-http ?
[03:16] <nsadmin> right now I'm using file:/mnt
[03:16] <share> it's making connections to Canonical servers in UK
[03:17] <rww> nsadmin: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[03:17] <nsadmin> perfect
[03:17] <share> barbadine.canonical.com
[03:17] <share> that.
[03:17] <nsadmin> thanks, I'll edit it now
[03:18] <seclm193> how do i configure Xorg
[03:18] <wslayer> quit
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: could do, don't think it will remove
[03:29] <kingspider> anyone devs use BOOST
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> kingspider: try in the channel for the language you are using
[03:31] <JoseP> YES
[03:31] <JoseP> I saved the server
[03:32] <JoseP> I got the GUI to work by going in safe mode
[03:32] <JoseP> actually
[03:32] <JoseP> ActionParsnip and OmegaForte saved my server lol
[03:32] <ed-always-jan> hi
[03:33] <JoseP> Thanks OmegaForte and ActionParsnip
[03:33] <JoseP> you saved my server
[03:33] <JoseP> I would've had to go through the painful task of reinstalling
[03:35] <speedrunnerG55> it still dosent work
[03:35]  * speedrunnerG55 cries
[03:36]  * st47 wonders what it is that doesn't work, and what you hope crying will do to fix it
[03:36] <JoseP> st47
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: packages all sq1uare now?
[03:36] <JoseP> sometimes staring at it long enough help
[03:36] <JoseP> ActionParsnip, how could I confirm that?
[03:36] <st47> lol
[03:37] <JoseP> As far as I've gone, it works fine
[03:37] <speedrunnerG55> my dual monitors
[03:37] <speedrunnerG55> they dont work properly
[03:37]  * speedrunnerG55 sniffs
[03:37] <JoseP> even the GUI in recovery mode, but it works the way I want it to work
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: sudo apt-get -f install     should say 0 packages
[03:37] <JoseP> now I'm in good terms with 11 I guess
[03:37] <JoseP> ok let me try that
[03:39] <Senix> I'm trying to use Mumble for Ubuntu 10.10, but adding a new server and trying to connect to it makes it crash.
[03:39] <Senix> Does anyone, anyone at all, know a fix to this?
[03:39] <JoseP> O lord I haven't dealt with Mumble in a while
[03:39] <JoseP> I'm still using TeamSpeak
[03:40] <JoseP> ActionParsnip: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 47 not upgraded.
[03:43] <speedrunnerG55> how can i run .inf files?
[03:44] <st47> speedrunnerG55: You're probably confused
[03:44] <st47> where did you get the inf file
[03:44] <st47> ?
[03:44] <speedrunnerG55> a cd
[03:44] <st47> is it a driver?
[03:45] <speedrunnerG55> install
[03:46] <st47> an inf file is just a text configuration file that can either describe how to install a driver on windows, or do autorun
[03:46] <st47> I've never needed to use them for linux
[03:46] <speedrunnerG55> oh
[03:46] <SxLan3> yes....it's just for information...
[03:46] <speedrunnerG55> can you help me install unreal tournament 2004?
[03:47] <st47> get wine
[03:47] <speedrunnerG55> i have wine
[03:47] <st47> then just use wine to run the setup.exe or whatever on the CD
[03:47] <speedrunnerG55> but it says on the box it worked with linux
[03:48] <SxLan3> try OpenArena
[03:48] <SxLan3> is for FREE
[03:48] <st47> crap, that's a call
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: you are square, you can now run:  sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[03:48] <SxLan3> and u can fin it in the Ubuntu Center
[03:48] <speedrunnerG55> is open arena good?
[03:49] <SxLan3> not like HALO ....but yes....
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> speedrunnerG55: openarena runs linux native, no need for wine
[03:49] <speedrunnerG55> are there viacles?
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> speedrunnerG55: OpenArena v0.8.1 Win/Lin/Mac Unified Zip from htp://openarena.ws
[03:50] <SxLan3> yes ....that's better!....
[03:50] <SxLan3> do u use Ubuntu?
[03:50] <speedrunnerG55> are there viacles?
[03:50] <speedrunnerG55> yes
[03:50] <JoseP> what would that do, ActionParsnip?
[03:50] <SxLan3> cause u can fin it in the Ubuntu Center....
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: with what?
[03:51] <SxLan3> and Download automaticly....
[03:51] <speedrunnerG55> ARE THERE VIACLES?
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> !info openarena
[03:51] <JoseP> sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> speedrunnerG55: what is a viacle?
[03:51] <speedrunnerG55> cars/tanks
[03:51] <speedrunnerG55> w/e
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: yes, that will upgrade you
[03:51] <witeshark> is there a way to clear or clean update manager 'partial update' issue on language packages?
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> speedrunnerG55: ohhh VEHICLES
[03:51] <speedrunnerG55> lol
[03:51] <SxLan3> haha
[03:51] <pangea> hi all
[03:52] <JoseP> ok
[03:52] <SxLan3> i don't play games a lot......but i played some times....and is nice.....
[03:52] <JoseP> now, ActionParsnip, I already ran sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:52] <JoseP> I'm running 11.04
[03:52] <JoseP> do I still have to run that? or should I?
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: cool then it's good to go
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: can't hurt, if its fully upgraded you wil be told :)
[03:53] <JoseP> ok I'll try that :D
[03:54] <alex220784> hello
[03:54] <dasschu> can anyone help with a   dual-boot install
[03:54] <pangea> anyone here know the ins and outs of setting up printers in ubuntu, specifically Dell printers
[03:55] <wildbat> dasschu: install WINDOWS ~ then ubuntu ~ done ~
[03:55] <dasschu> issue is I'm installing on a raid, the install dc's see it as 2 drives amd I tried wudi but that tells me it can't find the root.disk
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> pangea: if you run:  lsusb  you will see the 8 character hex ID which wuill help you find guides
[03:56] <progenitor> I installed the Ubuntu Minimal install disk and customized it to all my needs. I did all of this with a wires internet connection. I just want to know how to configure a wireless connection for my home and how to tether my android?
[03:56] <progenitor> wired*
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> pangea: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersDell
[03:56] <airtonix> progenitor: you're android needs to have the ability to connect to adhoc wifi points
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> pangea: usually those things are rebadged Lexmark printers
[03:57] <progenitor> @airtonix : yes it does... :) SE xperia X10 running stock Gingerbread ROM
[03:57] <airtonix> thether is stupid word anyway, like lag. it doesn't describe exactly what you mean
[03:57] <airtonix> tether*
[03:57] <dasschu> I've installed dial boot lots of tomes before but this is the first ti,e I'm trying yo install to a raid
[03:58] <progenitor> to tether my mobile broadband to my laptop... usb or wireless will do
[03:59] <airtonix> progenitor: just say, use my phone as a 3g wan connection
[03:59] <pangea> ActionParsnip: that's my problem it's not any of those models. It's a 2330dn on network with fixed ip
[03:59] <JoseP> it's all fixed now
[03:59] <JoseP> I'll try to work with Cups some other time
[03:59] <airtonix> progenitor: also, does your home have an operating system ?
[03:59] <JoseP> thanks ActionParsnip
[03:59] <progenitor> airtonix : yea exactly
[04:00] <JoseP> you deserve a freaking medal
[04:00] <JoseP> you and OmegaForte
[04:00] <pangea> ActionParsnip: it's painfully slow/unsuccessful printing pdf using the dell supplied ppd for my model. Especially changing orientation or pages per sheet - just doesn't work
[04:00] <JoseP> I'm gonna head out now
[04:00] <JoseP> Laters
[04:01] <rodd> Hi, I'm on ubuntu 11.04 and it crashes every time it builds the dependency tree (either when loading synaptic package manager, running apt-get, etc). Any idea of what may be causing this?
[04:01] <progenitor> airtonix : home, meaning my wireless router :)
[04:01] <witeshark> sigh.... well one last question... will the 11.04 upgrade explode with a chromium browser update, a GNOME and chromium language package in update manager limbo (partial update warning)?
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> pangea: is there a config for the network settings in the printer. I have an HP Deskjet 960c on a parralel wifi device and I had to set the print speed to slow to make it go fast
[04:03] <pangea> ActionParsnip: currently I'm using Generic PCL 5e Printer Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5e (recommended) driver which gives me reasonable pdf printing speed but none of the functions such as change orientation and page scaling
[04:03] <pangea> Actio
[04:04] <czervik_> posted details of my resolution prob here, would appreciate any help :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1815249
[04:04] <airtonix> progenitor: are you using a laptop, or a desktop computer? if a desktop computer then thedevice id of the wifi card which looks like 14e4:4315
[04:04] <airtonix> progenitor: you'll need to supply an id like that regardless though
[04:05] <pangea> ActionParsnip: yes there is a network menu on the printer, I can change things such as  PCL and PS switching on/off, NPA mode
[04:06] <dimas_> what is a good place to ask about website security?
[04:06] <progenitor> I am using a laptop. Acer 5742 with a broadcom wireless chip. usually when i had a full ubuntu install with open box as my session I had to type nm-applet and it would connect to the preconfigured wireless network. now I did install nm-applet but typing it does'nt give me any output
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> pangea: not sure then, are there bugs reported
[04:07] <pangea> ActionParsnip: not that I've been able to find, but then I'm reasonably new to ubuntu
[04:07] <hermes102-> Anyone know how to change apaches HTDOCs directory to a users home directory?
[04:07] <airtonix> progenitor: device id: lspci -nn
[04:08] <airtonix> hermes102-: sudo a2enmod userdir
[04:08] <hermes102-> Thanks :D
[04:08] <airtonix> hermes102-: then research that module on the apache2 documentation site
[04:08] <shalok> How do I enable root logins at the console?
[04:08] <st47> sudo passwd will allow you to set a root password
[04:09] <st47> you can also do sudo -i if you only need it once
[04:09] <rodd> christ
[04:09] <rodd> 4th time in a row that ubuntu crashes
[04:09] <alcidemar> how do i change xorg to xvesa on the xubuntu 11.04?
[04:09] <st47> that's a lot of x's
[04:10] <alcidemar> this pc are using now the xorg, but i want to change to xvesa
[04:10] <shalok> st47: Thanks. Is there anyway to let me create an empty password?
[04:11] <st47> for root
[04:11]  * st47 runs away and hides under a rock
[04:11] <rodd> for root's sakes
[04:12] <shalok> st47: For any user, including root.
[04:12] <SxLan3> hermes102: it's supposed to create that folder for save your publications...
[04:12] <st47> shalok: you really shouldn't do that
[04:12] <shalok> st47: Do you know how?
[04:12] <rww> !noroot | st47
[04:12] <SxLan3> why u want to change that?
[04:12] <st47> I'm looking
[04:14] <alcidemar> Please! how do i install the xvesa on xubuntu 11.04/
[04:15] <rodd> half moon forward, X, X, Circle
[04:15] <rodd> sorry, i have no clue
[04:16] <alcidemar> c'mon guys
[04:16] <alcidemar> nobody knows how do i change that shit?
[04:16] <bazhang> !helpme | alcidemar
[04:16] <bazhang> alcidemar, no cursing here
[04:16] <IdleOne> alcidemar: Please don't swear
[04:18] <al_nz1> cp from one machine to another (sshfs mounted source) keeps failing with no space left, yet df -h shows I have 36G left on /livemnt/boot ?
[04:20] <wildbat> al_nz1: the /boot partition over there don't have space may be
[04:20] <al_nz1> wildbat: I am copying to the machine I am on, and I have 36Gb free
[04:22] <wildbat> al_nz1: how about pastebin your cp line, mount, df
[04:23] <al_nz1> wildbat:  working on it!
[04:23] <shalok> st47: Apparently just remove _secure from nullok_secure in /etc/pam.d/common-auth.
[04:25] <rodd> cmon
[04:25] <rodd> this is annoying
[04:25] <rodd> I can't even load synaptic package manager anymore
[04:26] <rodd> first time it auto exit, second time crashes the system
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> rodd: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a
[04:27] <perturbo> leave #ubuntu
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> rodd: use a pastebin to hold the output
[04:27] <al_nz1> wildbat: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/screenshotubk.png/
[04:28] <rodd> ActionParsnip,  lsb_release: error: No arguments are permitted
[04:28] <al_nz1> wildbat: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/screenshot1ws.png/
[04:28] <rodd> above that, a list of urls
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> rodd: ok then:   sudo apt-get update; cat /etc/lsb-release
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> rodd: yes, use http://pastie.org   to give the output please
[04:30] <rodd> http://pastie.org/2297323
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> rodd: ok good so far. If you run: sudo apt-get -y upgrade    is it smooth (no errors)
[04:33] <rodd> let me see
[04:33] <Flannel> ActionParsnip, rodd: please don't use -y
[04:33] <AkivaII> I beg your pardon, I am trying to get this radio stream loop working in ubuntu, after trying a few things, I want to see if I am the only one having problems
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: why, it's upgrade, not dist-upgrade
[04:34] <AkivaII> can anyone else try this link, and see if it will stream for you? http://www.schiffradio.com/f/loop
[04:34] <al_nz1> wildbat: any clues?
[04:34] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: Because assuming yes is always a bad thing, it's a bad habit to get into, and if it prompts you if you're sure once, is that really that much of an inconveniece?
[04:34] <wildbat> al_nz1: i don't see the cp line yet and that is not ubuntu ;p
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: I gues, just makes life smooth
[04:35] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: This channel is about doing things properly, not taking potentially dangerous shortcuts
[04:35] <fission6> how can i show what would be upgraded if i were to run sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:35] <Flannel> fission6: --simulate
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> AkivaII: do you have a plugin for browser to connect with your media player, like mozilla-mplayer
[04:36] <AkivaII> I had the totem plugin I believe that came by default, and then I tried the mozilla vlc one
[04:36] <fission6> thanks
[04:36] <AkivaII> ActionParsnip: but that seems to not even activate
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> AkivaII: hmm, maybe having both is causing the issue
[04:37] <AkivaII> ActionParsnip: I will check synaptic, brb
[04:38] <MathiasRXubuntu> Good day all!
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> rodd: how's it going?
[04:38] <MathiasRXubuntu> Quite well
[04:38] <MathiasRXubuntu> Quite well
[04:39] <rodd> was brushing my teeth
[04:39] <rodd> says i gotta restart
[04:39] <rodd> brb
[04:41] <AkivaII> ActionParsnip: I took out the totem plugin and left only the vlc, and the vlc mozilla plugin still won't load. The totem will load, but it gives me a generic error message
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> AkivaII: did you restart mozilla to load the new plugin set?
[04:42] <AkivaII> couldn't find the plugin in the ff addon's
[04:43] <AkivaII> then again, could also not find the totems, but let me give it another shot
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> AkivaII: if you go to:    about:plugins    do you see one listed
[04:44] <AkivaII> ActionParsnip: yah, vlc is there, but it is still not loading. maybe though, I will try mplayer :P
[04:45] <rodd> seems fine now ActionParsnip
[04:45] <rodd> thanks
[04:45] <rodd> hopefully it wont happen again
[04:45] <shalok> Is there a bug in aptitude or something? When I use 'aptitude --schedule-only markauto' it sets everything as auto (as expected), but if I then use the aptitude gui to install xfce4 it removes the auto flag from all packages that xfce4 depends on... wtf?
[04:46] <nsadmin> theres no gpm?
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> rodd: sweet :)
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> rodd: CLI fixes all
[04:46] <rodd> ActionParsnip, So, was it something messed up
[04:46] <rodd> in the packages' source list?
[04:46] <rodd> or something like that?
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> rodd: most likely, but the gui crashed trying to read it, so cli steps in (as always) to save the day
[04:47] <rodd> yeah, weird though is that it also crashed when I tried to install a package through CLI
[04:47] <rodd> well thanks anyway
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> rodd: always a pleasure
[04:49] <nsadmin> so, I'm having a coupla problems, lets just deal with one, X doesn't seem to start properly
[04:49] <shalok> Perhaps there is a better way to do this... How do I set all packages on my system as automatically installed except a handful that I have selected?
[04:50] <teknova> anyone here have any experience with writing xorg files?
[04:50] <bsmith093> is it possible to restrart x clean without logging out?
[04:50] <AkivaII> ActionParsnip: No luck. I have tried the Gstreamer, Xine, and VLC plugin for http://www.schiffradio.com/f/loop , and none of them work
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> teknova: some
[04:50] <nsadmin> I installed xorg once I could get access to the CD content properly, this is a laptop with a synaptics touchpad... which is also why I asked about gpm earlier
[04:50] <Nobgul> bsmith093: Yes there is but i can't remember the command
[04:50] <AkivaII> ActionParsnip: does it work for your system?
[04:51] <nsadmin> aptitude does that already, as long as you use it all the time (instead of apt-get)
[04:51] <almoxarife> shalok: easy enough with synaptic, select all, remove the wanted and then flag them
[04:51] <almoxarife> un-wanted-
[04:51] <teknova> when someone has a min i need some help dual sreening with xorg
[04:52] <almoxarife> aptitude is kubuntu?
[04:53] <nsadmin> teknova: you shouldn't wait until someone has time,,, just be specific and informative, and ask your questions
[04:53] <shalok> almoxarife: Trying it now. For some reason it takes ages...
[04:57] <shalok> almoxarife: aptitude is ncurses version of synaptic.
[04:57] <shalok> more or less
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> AkivaII: i'm at work on XP right now so can't test. sorry
[04:57] <nsadmin> I guess they both use libapt
[04:58] <AkivaII> ActionParsnip: thanks anyways.
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> AkivaII: np man
[05:00] <teknova> I have an ATI Radeon HD 4200 on-board GPU and a GeForce 8400 GS pci 16x both with vga output and need to know how to dula screen like in windows xp. I am running Xubuntu 11.04
[05:01] <teknova> ps i am a liunx newbie
[05:01] <nsadmin> is ubuntu with kde a whole separate dist?
[05:01] <predatore> I have an error
[05:01] <shalok> almoxarife: How can I see the 'auto installed' mark in the table view? Having to check the tick in the menu is annoying...
[05:02] <nsadmin> I shot the error into the air,,, where it fell I knew not where...
[05:02] <predatore> Its in recovery mode: (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exhist, 0)
[05:02] <predatore> that is after running xstart
[05:03] <teknova> can anyone help me with my problem?
[05:03] <nsadmin> it's probably in some separate package
[05:03] <Nobgul> !question | predatore
[05:03] <almoxarife> shalok: in filters perhaps?
[05:03] <predatore> Gah, Sorry. I'm so bad at this.
[05:03] <nsadmin> can I ask to ask to ask?
[05:04] <bullgard4_> shalok: "[06:57]	<shalok>	more or less" <--  Rather less.
[05:04] <teknova> I have an ATI Radeon HD 4200 on-board GPU and a GeForce 8400 GS pci 16x both with vga output and need to know how to dual screen like in windows xp. I am running Xubuntu 11.04
[05:04] <almoxarife> shalok: yeap, a custom filter is avail
[05:05] <predatore> Can anyone tell me how to fix xserver with this error after typing in Xstart in recovery: error is "(EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exhist,0)
[05:05] <Nobgul> teknova: Have you checked google? i just did and i see the answer int he top 10
[05:06] <predatore> Followed by (EE) Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Razer BlackWidow Ultimate: Failed to initiate xinit: connection to x server was lost.
[05:06] <bullgard4_> predatore: You probably need to install an NVidia driver.
[05:06] <predatore> It was installed, This all happened right after I updated.
[05:07] <Nobgul> teknova: This is a little old but it should still work. http://vasir.net/blog/ubuntu/set-up-dual-monitors-with-ubuntu-804/
[05:07] <bullgard4_> !prefix | predatore
[05:08] <teknova> i will try that and get back to you
[05:08] <Nobgul> teknova: Ok.
[05:08] <teknova> but yes i scoured google
[05:08] <predatore> bullgard4: I have one installed already on it. I lost my ui. I can boot into it, but all I get is an app manager window and nothing else.
[05:10] <bullgard4_> predatore: The message "error is "(EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exhist,0)" seems to imply that you need to install a NVidia driver anew.
[05:10] <predatore> Bullgard4: I will do so. Thank You.
[05:10] <predatore> bullgard4: how ... lol
[05:13] <teknova> this envyng program was written for hardy i use natty does that matter?
[05:13] <bullgard4_> predatore: Try '~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-180-modaliaes'
[05:13] <predatore> Thank You
[05:14] <cypha> what's a good editor that can collapse blocks of code?
[05:15] <cypha> i was hoping gedit could, but guess not
[05:15] <Nobgul> teknova: As i said it is a bit dated but most programs should still work. I am sure there is a easier way to do it but i have such a large screen i do not need to use 2 so i am not sure
[05:15] <bullgard4_> cypha: Please tell me what it means to _collapse_ blocks of code.
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> cypha: i'd ask in the channel for the language you are coding in
[05:15] <teknova> ok
[05:16] <cypha> ActionParsnip: all purpose. like notepad++ for windows
[05:16] <cypha> i know vi can do it
[05:16] <Nobgul> bullgard4_: In programs such as eclipse ide etc you can colapse a block of code with the little +/- button
[05:16] <cypha> but I'm trying to avoid vi
[05:16] <cypha> cuz i hate the shortcuts
[05:16] <Darksmurf> nano ?
[05:16] <Darksmurf> nano/pico
[05:17] <st47> I don't think nano lets you collapse blocks of code
[05:17] <Nobgul> no it does not
[05:17] <cypha> Darksmurf: do they have normal (intuitive) keyboard shortcuts
[05:17] <Darksmurf> ah, I was thinking syntax highlighting
[05:17] <cypha> or are the shortcuts editable in a gui?
[05:17] <cypha> Darksmurf: i want that too
[05:17] <Nobgul> There is a plugin for nano that will do code hightlighting
[05:18] <Nobgul> with a slew of languages
[05:18] <Darksmurf> cypha they don't use the most common shortcuts, and I don't think they can be changed.
[05:18] <Darksmurf> and they are console apps
[05:18] <Darksmurf> example: CTRL+W for 'where', aka 'Find'
[05:18] <cypha> yeah, no console apps
[05:18] <cypha> cuz vi is good for that
[05:19] <cypha> it's just a bitch to setup vi
[05:21] <Nobgul> why not just use gedit though?
[05:21] <Nobgul> or Geany
[05:24] <teknova> why does everything in liunx have to be so damn difficult
[05:24] <Nobgul> teknova: It really is not that hard.
[05:25] <teknova> i cant get this package added to my software souces
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> teknova: it's not, you are just so used to Windows, anythng else is hard for you
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> teknova: what are you trying to add?
[05:27] <teknova> deb http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu//pool/universe/e/envyng-core/envyng-core_1.1.1ubuntu17_all.deb hardy-updates main universe
[05:27] <teknova> say 404 not found but the website works
[05:27] <rww> ...
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> teknova: envy isn't needed and hardy desktop support is dead
[05:27] <rww> and that's now how package sources work.
[05:28] <TITANO> it tries to download something
[05:28] <teknova> i am adding it to the souces list
[05:28] <TITANO> so the resource is there
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> teknova: what is the output of:  lsb_release -d   please
[05:29] <centr0> wow? my java environment is twice as fast here than win7
[05:29] <teknova> Ubuntu 11.04
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> teknova: then why add a hardy repo to a natty OS?
[05:30] <teknova> i neeed envyng
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> centr0: ubuntu uses fewer resources by default so will free up ram for your apps to thrive
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> teknova: what for?
[05:30] <teknova> dual sreens
[05:31] <teknova> screens*
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> teknova: which video chip do you have?
[05:31] <teknova> I have an ATI Radeon HD 4200 on-board GPU and a GeForce 8400 GS pci 16x both with vga output and need to know how to dual screen like in windows xp. I am running Xubuntu 11.04
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead
[05:32] <teknova> i know nither work with dissperate vid cards
[05:32] <KSHawkEye> Could anyone tell me how webhosts set up their linux to allow httpd to write to every user on the shared server with the file permissions being 755?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> teknova: 1. mixing debs between releases isn't advised or supported 2. Envy isn't advised even if Hardy was still supported
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> teknova: they can, you may need to form an xorg.conf though
[05:33] <teknova> one time when i ran off the live cd i got the treminal in my second screen but only once and not in real time together
[05:33] <teknova> that was my origanl question
[05:33] <teknova> i was advised to use envy
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> !envy
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> !envyng
[05:34] <rww> we deleted it because it's not recommended or needed any more, iirc
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> wow its not even an ubottu factoid its that out of date
[05:34] <rww> !search envy
[05:34] <rww> yup. * = deleted
[05:34] <teknova> wel if anyone has any ideas im open to suggestions
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> cool
[05:35] <teknova> i belive this would be best solved with editing my xorg file but im lost as to ho to do it and im not a native programmer
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> teknova: you will need to hunt on the web for sample xorg.conf files you can use. You will need to run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    to get write access, there are many samples around. The file isn't overly complex and don't put sections in regarding keyboards and mice as these are working ok
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> teknova: i'm not a programmer either, yet I can search to find sample files to copy sections from and try
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> teknova: http://blog.vinceliu.com/2009/02/setting-dual-head-displays-with-radeon.html
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> teknova: has a sample xorg.conf   you can change the names and drivers used to suit your setup
[05:40] <teknova> thank you
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> teknova: each screen is made up of 1 video card and one monitor
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> teknova: then the server is made up of the 2 screens
[05:40] <st47> >.>
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> teknova: obviously that is using the same device for each video card but you will change that as your setup is not like that
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> teknova: as you can see. I (a non programmer) found that using the internet
[05:43] <teknova> well i was looking for things speciffly for 11.04
[05:43] <overfiend> I've messed up my graphics card drivers and now my pc can't display anything. Would anyone be able to help?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> teknova: Xorg is Xorg dude don't get bogged down with versions too much
[05:44] <teknova> this is telling me to use binary drivers
[05:44] <teknova> i cant do that
[05:45] <teknova> because i cant install two binary drivers
[05:47] <teknova> can i?
[05:47] <teknova> can i install two binary drivers?
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> teknova: don't see why not
[05:49] <teknova> how would i go about it?
[05:50] <beanluc> Hi folks... I attached a drive to the Ultra ATA ribbon to try to copy stuff off it. But it doesn't appear in /dev so I can't mount it... Any ideas?
[05:50] <beanluc> it's jumpered as a slave so... I'm surprised
[05:51] <nsadmin> ok, I have ubuntu base and a few other packages installed, X is installed, not sure it's starting properly... how would I go about installing kde?
[05:52] <beanluc> nsadmin https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[05:53] <nsadmin> so the apt-get command has a greater number of chars than the url?
[05:53] <nsadmin> also, I don't have a browser installed
[05:54] <beanluc> nsadmin oh you just want to know what packages?
[05:54] <nsadmin> I suppose I could telnet
[05:54] <beanluc> nsadmin packages are called kde and kde-core
[05:55] <teknova> how do i nstall two binary video drivers
[05:55] <beanluc> nsadmin and you can get kubuntu-desktop too if you want the whole thing
[05:57] <ministerdude> sudo ? firefox update? new version?
[05:57] <st47> is there a question in there?
[05:57] <beanluc> LOL is that one question or three ministerdude
[05:57] <ministerdude> I need the whole command please :)
[05:58] <nsadmin> mmm, ok thank you
[05:58] <beanluc> ministerdude I'd just run firefox under su, then use the "update firefox" from the menu
[05:58] <beanluc> ministerdude you need CLI version for a reason?
[05:59] <beanluc> just asking
[05:59] <ministerdude> I just don't like the version I'm on. someone told me the newest is faster
[05:59] <centr0> chrome is faster..  but okay.
[05:59] <beanluc> ministerdude do it from the program's Help menu, don't do it from the command line
[06:00] <centr0> ^what he said.
[06:00] <rww> Ubuntu's firefox builds don't have Help menu updating enabled.
[06:00] <rww> !ff5
[06:00] <responce> hi, I just updated ubuntu from the downloadable image to the latest, however, my wireless card no longer works.
[06:00] <responce> any tips?
[06:00] <ministerdude> programs help? where
[06:00] <rcmaehl> is there a limit to how redundant of an ssh loop you can have?
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> Faster is he only way firefox can go
[06:02] <bombgame> ChanServ: should I even try on this IRC
[06:02] <rww> no.
[06:03] <ihsw> how do i update my rtorrent package
[06:03] <bombgame> rww: do you know what I am talking about
[06:03] <st47> ihsw: sudo apt-get install rww
[06:03] <st47> oops
[06:03] <st47> tabcomplete doesn't work like that
[06:03] <st47> ihsw: sudo apt-get install rtorrent
[06:04] <ihsw> curses, there's been no update recently
[06:04] <rww> !latest
[06:05] <ihsw> hmm, i'm tempted to compile it from source
[06:05] <beanluc> I need to get this Ultra ATA disk attached and mounted. It works fine with one disk, but an identical one never shows up in /dev so I can't mount it. Any ideas?
[06:05] <beanluc> I tested 2 disks to be sure it works
[06:05] <beanluc> but the stuff I need to copy is on the one that won't attach
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: could try a ppa
[06:07] <ihsw> ActionParsnip: forgive me, what's a ppa?
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[06:08] <zagrev> anyone faced this problem? BIOS sees my 160GB seagate HD but the ubuntu live cd doesnt :/
[06:09] <zagrev> "fdisk -l" doesnt show it either
[06:10] <orwell> Tried sudo rm -rf /
[06:10] <orwell> ?
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/ says latest stable is 0.8.9 and Natty has 0.8.6
[06:10] <orwell> I'm kidding.
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: what is so different in the new version...
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> orwell: don't kid like that please
[06:11] <girly_> orwell: that is dangeorus!!
[06:11] <teknova> what does that do?
[06:12] <beanluc> orwell you forgot the part where you tell 'em to man rm first
[06:12] <beanluc> teknova ^
[06:12] <girly_> teknova: delete the whole filesystem
[06:12] <teknova> lol
[06:12] <droidman101> boom, gone, goodbye
[06:13] <Lasers> teknova: "rm" = "remove"  -- Basically, it'll attempt to remove everything (with force).
[06:13] <rww> and fail, but still
[06:13] <Lasers> Yeah. Why are we even enforcing that factoid? o.O
[06:13] <teknova> yeah i got the rm it was the -rf option i was unfamilar with
[06:13] <Nobgul> recursive force
[06:14] <Nobgul> basically it wont ask anyquestions it just does
[06:14] <droidman101> -rf yes, kill it all
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> teknova: r == recursive  f == force
[06:14] <rww> teknova: -r means recursively delete subdirectories and files. -f means never prompt or warn
[06:14] <teknova> ahh ok
[06:14] <rww> Lasers: because this is a support channel, not a playground for trolls that don't know what they're doing
[06:14] <beanluc> and sudo means do it with extreme prejudice
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: I found a ppa with 0.8.8    if that's any good to you....
[06:15] <beanluc> sudo show my drive in /dev so i can fkn mount it
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: use:  sudo fdisk -l    and you'll see them
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: sudo can't show you anything, it's not it's job to
[06:16] <beanluc> No.
[06:16] <beanluc> It's not mounted, I said.
[06:16] <Lasers> rww: Good point.
[06:16] <beanluc> fdisk -l only shows sda devices
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: it doesn't need to be for fdisk to list it
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: I know what you said
[06:16] <beanluc> well I ran it anyway and that's what I got
[06:16] <teknova> ok what could i do to install to binary drivers
[06:16] <beanluc> only sda, no sdb's
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: yes then the system has detected 2 drives
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> oh
[06:17] <beanluc> no it hasn't
[06:17] <c0dege3k> hi, i just installed gnome 3 on 11.04 tonight, and i cannot for the life of me get the file manager to open. it shows up in the top bar for a bit, takes up some memory and then disappears. ideas?
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: then sdb isn't detected
[06:17] <beanluc> exactly
[06:17] <beanluc> parsnip
[06:17] <beanluc> that's my whole proble m
[06:17] <rww> c0dege3k: GNOME 3 isn't supported on 11.04 officially or in here.
[06:17] <beanluc> that's what i'm asking aobut
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: being detected and being mounted are very different
[06:17] <c0dege3k> rww: is there a channel that i can go to?
[06:17] <rww> c0dege3k: nope
[06:17] <beanluc> INOOOOOOOO
[06:17] <c0dege3k> k thanks
[06:17] <beanluc> lok sorry for shouting but scroll up
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: is it a hard drive? or an SD card?
[06:18] <beanluc> Ultra ATA on the 2nd ribbon
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: does it show in BIOS?
[06:18] <beanluc> an identical isk works doing this.
[06:18] <beanluc> computer is headless so I haven't bothered to drag it to where I can see BIOS
[06:19] <beanluc> anyway both these disks worked when i pulled em out another computer... but one of em can be detected and one of em can't
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: its the first thing to check, also avoid using cable select and set it to a master or slave etc
[06:19] <beanluc> they're slaves
[06:19] <beanluc> jumpered as slaves
[06:19] <teknova> you know i had a similar problem the other day when playing around with ext2fsd
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: if you have 2 slaves on the same controller it won't work
[06:19] <beanluc> NOOOOO
[06:19] <beanluc> they're not on there at tnhe same TIME
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: well I DON'T know that do I
[06:20] <teknova> partion magic would detec my ext4 disks
[06:20] <beanluc> you've been here the whole time I have parsnip
[06:20] <bdi_> What is this package called which installs all the good codecs needed?
[06:20] <beanluc> I said it before
[06:20] <teknova> wouldnt*
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: I'd make sure they are detected in BIOS first. Simply slinging them into a system and powering on without checking basic stuff like that isn't wise
[06:21] <teknova> i think he said bios detected it
[06:21] <beanluc> I guess I'll have to
[06:21] <beanluc> teknova bios detected the other disk
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> bdi_: unbuntu-restricted-extras
[06:21] <teknova> what? you didnt try that first?
[06:21] <beanluc> teknova i don't know what bios says about the one i WANT to connnect because it'
[06:21] <beanluc> the box is in the basement with no kvm
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> bdi_: if you use xubuntu or kubuntu  then change the package name accordingly :)
[06:22] <beanluc> just this terminal
[06:22] <teknova> oh
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> bdi_: also install vlc and gnome-mplayer (i assume gnome), you may also want to add the medibuntu repo and install w32codecs (i assume 32bit OS)
[06:22] <teknova> i would just use vlc
[06:23] <beanluc> anyway i was just hoping someone might have an idea whether there was anything to do BEFORE powering the m'er f'er down and carrying it up here where I can attach kvm
[06:23] <teknova> i dont care for gnome player
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> teknova: mplayer pulls in a tonne of goodness too
[06:23] <beanluc> vlc? that can get me a bios screen?
[06:23] <teknova> no resonding to a different person
[06:23] <beanluc> oh wait nevermind that wasn't for me
[06:23] <beanluc> k
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: no, you will need an iLo or DRAC card to see bios remotely (or similar technology)
[06:23] <beanluc> i guess i was thinking you were talking about vNc... @me
[06:24] <teknova> even for a non gnome distro?
[06:24] <beanluc> ActionParsnip: yes
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> teknova: smplayer will run in kde just dandy
[06:24] <teknova> what about xcfe?
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> teknova: gnome-mplayer will work according to http://wiki.xfce.org/recommendedapps
[06:27] <bdi_> ActionParsnip, how do i add the medibuntu repo?
[06:28] <wolfric> Is there anyway of storing my passcode for encrypting and decrypting files somehow? at the moment i normally do gpg -c to encrypt a file and gpg file to decrypt but was hoping there was some sort of method of storing it when i put it in the first time
[06:28] <vostro> has anyone installed crunch for aircrack-ng
[06:28] <girly_> vostro: Years ago
[06:28] <wolfric> i'd rather not create just one large encrypted file that i mount or something and prefer to encrypt the files individually and the encryption algorithm doesn't matter
[06:29] <nsadmin> beanluc, are you still around? qu3estion, I tried to install "kde" but it's not found... do I need to add a source specific to kde and to natty?
[06:30] <vostro> what sort of things do u do now girly
[06:30] <Lasers> nsadmin: Okay. How did you attempt to install kde in first place?
[06:30] <nsadmin> aptitude install kde
[06:30] <girly_> vostro: What do you mean?
[06:30] <Lasers> !info kde | nsadmin
[06:31] <nsadmin> oh, ok... hmm. what does?
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> anyone know an ipad channel on freenode?
[06:31] <beanluc> nsadmin did you try kde-core
[06:31] <Lasers> nsadmin: It does not exist. Use "sudo aptitude search kde" to find a list of packages -- then go from there.
[06:31] <nsadmin> no not yet
[06:31] <vostro> girly i mean what things do u do with linux now if you were hacking wep/wpa years ago
[06:31] <nit-wit> nsadmin, kubuntu-desktop is the command
[06:32] <nsadmin> oh ok
[06:32] <vostro> girly so u can install crunch but u have  to play your games on windows
[06:32] <vostro> girly have u notheard of wine
[06:32] <vostro> girly u must have
[06:32] <girly_> vostro: I was trying it on my own connection not stealing
[06:33] <girly_> vostro: Yes but trust me its not the same
[06:33] <namoamitafo> Hi guys
[06:33] <vostro> girly i use wine i do my own trusting
[06:33] <girly_> vostro: This is a support channel why don't we discuss non-support related in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:33] <namoamitafo> when I click 'shutdown' on gnome, it only logs out, not shut down
[06:33] <vostro> just tell me male or female girly
[06:33] <nsadmin> wo! heated discussion!
[06:33] <namoamitafo> How to solve it?
[06:34] <beanluc> LOL vostro
[06:34] <vostro> well i needed suppurt with ubuntu and installing crunch
[06:34] <beanluc> it's the internet...
[06:34] <girly_> namoamitafo: do you use gdm
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> namoamitafo: other users are still logged on?
[06:34] <namoamitafo> girly_: yes
[06:34] <girly_> vostro: female why and please don't flirt here
[06:34] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: only I'm using pc
[06:34] <vostro> girly no flirting
[06:35] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: I should click shutdown in gdm to shut
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> namoamitafo:did you try sudo halt in terminal?
[06:35] <nsadmin> flirting is scary...
[06:35] <beanluc> that's not a florty screenname or anything...
[06:35] <girly_> vostro: like it should make a difference to you
[06:35] <bdi_> ActionParsnip, how do i add the medibuntu repo?
[06:35] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: oh, awful
[06:35] <ivs> vostro: I've always found jtr's generation rules to be more flexible than crunch
[06:35] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: sudo halt, I'll use root euid to shutdown==
[06:35] <girly_> beanluc: Wasn't intended to be just my character
[06:36] <nit-wit> bdi, http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/linux-distributions/linux-distributions4-ubuntu/1656-how-to-add-medibuntu-repository-in-ubuntu-via-terminal-and-gui
[06:36] <vostro> ivs and is this compatible with aircrack-ng
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> namoamitafo:did you check system logs for shutdown errors?
[06:37] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: where? /var/log/*?
[06:37] <nsadmin> vostro: tias
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> namoamitafo:yes
[06:37] <ivs> vostro: well yeah - you can generate wordlists and then just use those when you call aircrack-ng
[06:37] <beanluc> well bye... i gotta shut this thing down so i can put kvm on it
[06:37] <nit-wit> bdi_, http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/linux-distributions/linux-distributions4-ubuntu/1656-how-to-add-medibuntu-repository-in-ubuntu-via-terminal-and-gui
[06:38] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: It's a problem between gnome-power-manager and gdm, I think
[06:38] <ivs> vostro: but you might want to check out pyrit if that's what you're focused on
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> namoamitafo: found similar bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/711571
[06:38] <teknova> can i activate two binary drivers with jockey?
[06:38] <nsadmin> brb
[06:39] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: oh, sorry for my bad english. I found a page describing my problem, but old: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=45771&start=0
[06:41] <no_face> could someone tell me the program name for installing proprietary drivers in ubuntu please?
[06:41] <no_face> ati drivers for instance
[06:41] <bdi_> nit-wit, thx :) and what are the win32 codecs called which are required to play wmv files?
[06:42] <girly_> no_face: restricted driver manager its installed by default
[06:42] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: is there any solution?
[06:42] <no_face> bdi ubuntu+restricted-extras
[06:42] <no_face> thanks girly_
[06:42] <teknova> can i activate two binary drivers with jockey?
[06:43] <no_face> i got minimal install girly
[06:43] <nit-wit> bdi_, w32 codecs I would look in synaptic.
[06:43] <girly_> no_face: You're Welcome
[06:43] <teknova> jockey-gtk to be pecific
[06:43] <teknova> secific*
[06:44] <teknova> specific*
[06:44] <Electroso> i have not tried this but i was wandering if you could run a virtual pc in a virtual pc on a pc?
[06:44] <teknova> lol
[06:44] <droidman101> itll run horribly
[06:44] <teknova> why?
[06:44] <no_face> girly_ could you find the actual name for me within the launcher... i don't see in repo's
[06:44] <droidman101> but im sure itll work
[06:44] <Electroso> just for the hell of it
[06:44] <girly_> no_face: 1 moment
[06:44] <teknova> lol
[06:45] <girly_> no_face: see this https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/hardware/C/restricted-manager.html
[06:46] <theadmin> Electroso: Technically possible.
[06:46] <theadmin> Electroso: A virtual PC thinks it's pretty real, so no restrictions apply there :D
[06:46] <Electroso> true true
[06:47] <Lasers> Electroso: How much RAM? :)
[06:47] <bdi_> when i try to play a video using vlc player i get this: No suitable decoder module:
[06:47] <bdi_> VLC does not support the audio or video format "MSS2". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
[06:47] <no_face> girly_ that is no help for me really
[06:47] <Electroso> i have 8 gig on the system
[06:47] <bdi_> i have also tried to installed restricted extras and w32codecs
[06:47] <bdi_> and played it with totem
[06:47] <Electroso> i figure 1.5 for eacxh
[06:47] <Lasers> Electroso: Go for it! (You must be bored!) :)
[06:47] <bdi_> it gives no image
[06:47] <theadmin> bdi_: Just read it, you can't fix that -- you have to wait for the new VLC version or upgrade yours if it ain't the latest
[06:47] <nit-wit> bdi_ install the restricted-extras for your desktop
[06:47] <bdi_> how can i then try to proceed?
[06:48] <theadmin> nit-wit: That's of no real help with VLC
[06:48] <bdi_> nit-wit, i have that
[06:48] <nit-wit> theadmin, if you say so.
[06:48] <bdi_> i dont care if its vlc or something else...
[06:49] <girly_> no_face: Why?
[06:49] <no_face> because i installed gnome manually
[06:50] <no_face> i have a low fat install =) girly_
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> namoamitafo:not sure sorry, you could also try remove logout applet from taskbar and retry adding it
[06:51] <Soulis77-SE> Hi all, My auth.log and syslog is after one week about 400 Mb big. Is this normal for a server without any trafic?
[06:51] <no_face> found it... sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[06:52] <theadmin> Soulis77-SE: Do you have logrotate installed?
[06:52] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=48644
[06:52] <theadmin> Soulis77-SE: If no you just have to get that.
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> Soulis77-SE: depends on repeated msges?
[06:52] <teknova> can i activate two binary drivers with jockey?
[06:53] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=66425
[06:54] <Soulis77-SE> In my auth  most is cron jobs:  CRON[ ]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user www-data by (uid=0)   CRON[ ]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user www-data CRON[ ]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user smmsp
[06:55] <Soulis77-SE> theadmin: No I haven't logrotate. I will install and set that up.
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> Soulis77-SE: you could try tail -f /var/log/syslog.log to realtime view whats happening
[06:56] <bkerensa> Soulis77-SE: Yeah tail your log as lotuspsychje suggested and consider logrotate
[06:58] <Soulis77-SE> If I pastebin some of my syslog, can someone have a look and see if there is something not installed correctly or something to worrt about?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> Soulis77-SE: i installed colortail and modified central logging conf to 1 logging file might be usefull for server too
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> Soulis77-SE: im sure someone could help with that on pastebin
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows an ipad support channel on freenode?
[07:02] <namoamitafo> What about lightdm in ubuntu?
[07:02] <Soulis77-SE> lotuspsychje: Thanks for the tip.
[07:02] <nsadmin> Soulis77-SE, you realize by asking that question you're asking someone to read every line...
[07:03] <admiralvorian> ok guys this one is really bothering me I hope someone here has experience with ACPI suspend
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> namoamitafo: i would try logging out/halt system tru terminal first to see if that works
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> !ask admiralvorian
[07:04] <nsadmin> take it in reverse... are you having one specific problem with one specific device that you think might be installed incorrectly?
[07:04] <admiralvorian> I can suspend my system fine, but when I resume I usually get a black, non-responsive screen. Sometimes I can get a password prompt, but it always declines my password, vibrates like I entered three wrong passwords then goes back to black
[07:04] <admiralvorian> !ask
[07:04] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: It said that muilt-user login is not real but the gdm thinks that is real.
[07:05] <admiralvorian> lotuspsychje I was just givin' yall a preface :D
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> :p
[07:05] <bidossessi> hi all
[07:05] <admiralvorian> I have tried a few things already and am at the end of my rope
[07:05] <admiralvorian> I'm running an asus UL50VT with a solid-state disk...I think it has something to do with my ssd because before I moved to this drive suspend worked fine
[07:05] <bidossessi> how can one revocer from this type of error. "unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists"
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: you can doublecheck bios ACPI settings first, then mess some with gconf-editor
[07:06] <admiralvorian> lotuspsychje, what kind of stuff am i looking for in gconf editor
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: energy settings
[07:07] <Guest50169> bidossessi: did you use sudo?
[07:08] <bidossessi> yes
[07:08] <admiralvorian> lotuspsychje, everything is fine with my acpi settings in the bios. I think the problem is ext4+ssd...it doesn't seem to mount the root filesystem properly
[07:08] <bidossessi> ok. i found out what was wrong
[07:08] <bdi_> what should i install on the server in order to be able to connct with gtkvncviewer?
[07:09] <wols_> bdi_: vino-server
[07:09] <wols_> bdi_: or any other vnc server. but why do you want to use vnc to connect to a server?
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: i also have ssd on natty, no problems here, my guess would be other settings not an ssd error
[07:09] <bdi_> wols_, its a media server, so need graphic interface
[07:09] <bdi_> wols_, or a media box
[07:10] <wols_> bdi_: no you don't
[07:10] <admiralvorian> lotuspsychje, it worked properly, i changed to an ssd and imaged my system over, then got this error. I then formatted and installed fresh, same symptom.
[07:10] <bdi_> wols_, what do i then need?
[07:10] <wols_> a media server _serves_ media, it doesn't show it necessarily
[07:10] <wols_> bdi_: is X already installed and running on the server?
[07:10] <bdi_> wols_, you are misunderstanding. it is not a server. it is a box connected to the television
[07:10] <theadmin> X on a server. lolwut.
[07:11] <wols_> bdi_: is X already installed and running on the server?
[07:11] <bdi_> wols_, yes it is
[07:11] <girly_> theadmin: not necessary it fact windows server is GUI not CL
[07:11] <bdi_> wols_, or i should think so...its running ubuntu 10.10 desktop ed.
[07:12] <Soulis77-SE> http://pastebin.com/hhfSvd8z   Here is part of my syslog. I know I'm missing mail account/settings but other than that is there something to worry about?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: i dont think its ssd related
[07:12] <wols_> bdi_: then enable vino server
[07:12] <wols_> !vion
[07:12] <wols_> !vino
[07:12] <theadmin> girly_: "windows server" is an oxymoron
[07:12] <wols_> vino-server
[07:12] <admiralvorian> lotuspsychje, the power settings seem correct, acpi is all fine in the bios. the system goes to sleep properly just doesn't wake properly. anything specific to look at?
[07:13] <wols_> admiralvorian: you have a swap partition big enough? is it for suspend or for hibernation or both
[07:13] <admiralvorian> wols_, my swap is the size of my ram. i thought suspend didn't use disk?
[07:13] <admiralvorian> i want suspend to ram
[07:13] <wols_> suspend to ram does not, hibernate does
[07:13] <bdi_> wols_, where do i do that
[07:14] <args[0]> what is a good music streaming software that can be installdd on ubuntu server vps?
[07:14] <admiralvorian> wols_, i don't use hibernate
[07:14] <wols_> bdi_: somewhere in the system settings
[07:14] <admiralvorian> wols_, but my swap partition is 1x ram i believe
[07:14] <wols_> bdi_: System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[07:14] <admiralvorian> one sec guys i'm going to test hibernate to see if this is an acpi issue
[07:15] <admiralvorian> actually it looks like hibernate is disabled
[07:15] <wols_> admiralvorian: with a SSD you should use hibernate. saves more bttery and SSD is fast enough to make it as fast as normal suspend
[07:15] <goddard> this might be to specific a question but how can i monitor the 2.4 ghz radio frequency?
[07:15] <wols_> goddard: kismet  for example
[07:15] <admiralvorian> wols_, it looks like hibernate is disabled, and i don't see my swap space in my fstab
[07:15] <wols_> goddard: depends what you want to do
[07:15] <wols_> admiralvorian: "free"  check if that sees your swap space
[07:16] <admiralvorian> command returns " swap 0 0 0"
[07:16] <wols_> admiralvorian: ok, then no swap is used. enable it. it could be the problem (not sure, but it could)
[07:17] <admiralvorian> wols_, is there a gui app i can use to enable swap
[07:17] <wols_> not that I know of. generally you edit your fstab
[07:17] <bdi_> thx
[07:17] <admiralvorian> since I'm using an ssd I generally have programs write temp files to ram instead of hdd
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: try gconf-editor apps/gnome-power-manager
[07:18] <goddard> wols_ wanted to do some testing on a device
[07:19] <admiralvorian> lotuspsychje, yes that's where i looked before everything seems ok
[07:19] <wols_> admiralvorian: if you control swappiness (I already guess you have enough RAM) then it's no problem with the ssd. it will never be used basically unless you hibernate. and that you can control
[07:20] <admiralvorian> wols_, so perhaps the acpi scripts are freaking out that there is no swap space even though i'm only doing suspend-to-ram...i'll add the line to my fstab
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: you could try installing ubuntu-tweak maybe some settings tweakable
[07:22] <admiralvorian> alright so I did swapon /dev/sda1 (where my swap space it)
[07:22] <admiralvorian> free shows a value now
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: what computer brand?
[07:25] <vorian> asus
[07:25] <vorian> ul50vt
[07:25] <Anubis> how can i install python2..5 on natty ?
[07:25] <admiralvorian> sorry i got ghosted trying to sleep haha
[07:25] <admiralvorian> yeah so it still doesn't work
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: could also doublecheck new flash fixes for asus
[07:26] <admiralvorian> flash fixes?
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> anyway breakfast bbl
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> flash bios
[07:26] <admiralvorian> ah
[07:26] <admiralvorian> strange
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> check official site
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> for flash fixes
[07:26] <admiralvorian> as I said it was working fine the other day
[07:26] <admiralvorian> but an updated bios is always good
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[07:28] <bkerensa> Anubis: Just use apt-get install python
[07:28] <bkerensa> Anubis: You can also install from the software center if you so prefer
[07:29] <Anubis> bkerensa
[07:29] <girly> One question that's always been on my mind what would sudo apt-get remove apt-get do?
[07:29] <bkerensa> Anubis: Yes?
[07:29] <theadmin> girly: It'd work, but render a pretty much unusable system
[07:30] <Anubis> i have already installed python2.6 and 2.7
[07:30] <theadmin> girly: Do not.
[07:30] <wols_> theadmin: not unusable at all
[07:30] <girly> theadmin: I won't !
[07:30] <Anubis> but i need python 2.5 to run a game
[07:30] <bkerensa> girly: It would break stuff hardcore :P
[07:30] <wols_> you still have aptitude, synaptic, update-manager...
[07:30] <wols_> bkerensa: it wouldn't break anything
[07:30] <theadmin> wols_: Synaptic uses apt-get, same for update-manager
[07:30] <bkerensa> Anubis: Hmm in that case you could downgrade?
[07:30] <theadmin> wols_: Not sure about aptitude though
[07:31] <wols_> theadmin: no it does not. dunno about u-m, but synaptic doesn't
[07:31] <bkerensa> wols_: It would break (remove) apt-get and anything else that relies on apt-get
[07:31] <bkerensa> hmm
[07:31] <wols_> bkerensa: no
[07:31] <theadmin> More hardcore? apt-get remove dpkg xD
[07:31] <bkerensa> :)
[07:31] <wols_> theadmin: do you know what libapt is?
[07:32] <Anubis> the game itself came with python2.5 but for some reason it gives me segmentation fault
[07:32] <wols_> theadmin: dpkg is needed yes, without it you WILL break your system very badly. same for debconf, debhelper, etc.
[07:32] <theadmin> wols_: Look, I'm an Arch user... So no, I don't even care actually :D
[07:32] <girly> hmm tried, suggest to remove apt-get, aptitude and all includin dpkg, python
[07:32] <theadmin> brb.
[07:32] <bkerensa> theadmin: update manager uses dpkg right? So does Software Center?
[07:32] <bkerensa> Anubis: Which game?
[07:33] <Anubis> freeorion
[07:33] <wols_> bkerensa: everything uses libapt normally which in turn uses dpkg to actually intall packages. apt doesn't install anything but only does downloading and conflict resolution/dependency handling
[07:33] <goddard> isn't arch a big waste of time?
[07:33] <bkerensa> wols_: I see :) good share
[07:34] <Lasers> goddard: Not really.
[07:34] <goddard> seemed like it to me when you want an xserver they had a long list of commands you had to enter
[07:34] <bkerensa> Anubis: Let me check real fast
[07:35] <ivs> is there a command line command to check the network interface's dns server?
[07:35] <wols_> ivs: nslookup google.com
[07:35] <bkerensa> Anubis: Whats the seg fault error exactly can you pastebin?
[07:37] <ivs> wols_: that checks the eventual dns server -- like I didn't setup my network interface to use OpenDNS servers for lookups, I'm pretty sure it's set to use my router to resolve, but my router is set to use OpenDNS, so when I do nslookup, I'm pulling from OpenDNS
[07:37] <overfiend> My computer that was running an Nvidia 8600gs died while running NVidia drivers. I put hard drive into new machine running GeForce 5500. It ran in low colour mode, so I uninstalled latest nvidia drivers that were used for 8600gs thinking that open source drivers would kick in. Now when I reboot, it says "no signal" straight after grub menu. I tried to delete the xorg.conf but I'm unable to find it. Can anyone help?
[07:37] <ivs> wols_: I'm wondering if there is a command to check the local DNS network settings
[07:38] <bkerensa> Anubis: I would suggest contacting the games developers although you could purge python and reinstall
[07:38] <rho1> how to do something like
[07:38] <rho1> sudo <command> | echo <password>
[07:38] <wols_> bkerensa: i wouldn't purge python at all, cause it will be a major breaking of your system
[07:38] <rho1> avoid user interaction
[07:39] <Anubis> bkerensa: here is the error: libpython2.5.so.1.0 => not found python2.5 missing. Using shipped version.PYTHONHOME=python2.5 Segmentation fault
[07:39] <wols_> ivs: yes. nslookup
[07:40] <pheonixman> hello, my smplayer is not able to play mp4 files...when i double click mp4 file smplayer opens and then only plays the audio...need help here..!!!
[07:40] <wols_> Anubis: and where are your libpython2.5*.so?
[07:40] <bkerensa> Hi Python1320
[07:40] <bkerensa> wols_: Would you suggest Anubis sudo dpkg --reconfigure python?
[07:40] <girly> pheonixman: Does it work with other players excluding vlc
[07:41] <pheonixman> girly, it does play in VLC ....and except that i have not tried anyother player
[07:41] <wols_> pheonixman: try to play it in mplayer via terminal. that should tell you what I swrong (afaik)
[07:41] <Anubis> i installed the game in my home directory, so the libpython2.5 is in the freeorion/application/python2.5/
[07:41] <girly> could you try something totem for instance ... VLC uses built in codecs
[07:41] <bkerensa> =o
[07:41] <wols_> girly: so does mplayer
[07:42] <girly> wols_: Is totem mplayer based
[07:42] <rho1> can't sudo <command> | echo <password> be done to avoid the user interaction
[07:42] <wols_> I don't know. but how playing it in totem helps with the user who asks about mplayer is your secret I guess
[07:43] <wols_> rho1: defeats the point of sudo utterly. what are you actually trying to accomplish?
[07:43] <rww> girly: no, it's gstreamer-based
[07:43] <pheonixman> wols_, i tried playing the file in mplayer via terminal...and it works
[07:43] <pheonixman> !!!
[07:43] <girly> wols_: That would help identify if fault is at codec level or player app