[03:30] <terranwannabe> nickrud - I have a laptop with a built in sound chipset AND a usb audio adapter that goes out to a separate set of speakers. I use the built in chipset to power the built in speakers, and the usb to power the external speakers.
[03:30] <terranwannabe> continuing...\
[03:30] <HrdwrBoB> boredofthesane: it may be that your chipset is not well supported and dma does not work
[03:30] <HrdwrBoB> boredofthesane: what is your motherboard
[03:31] <boredofthesane> hrdwrbob: not sure, its a new hp pavilion
[03:31] <HrdwrBoB> jbm__: yes you can do that
[03:31] <terranwannabe> I'd like to have ALSA use the USB audio adapter unless it's unplugged, in which case it would use the laptop chipset.
[03:31] <terranwannabe> however, Ubuntu has it so that it always uses the laptop chipset by default and I can't get it to switch.
[03:31] <jbm__> HrdwrBoB can you point me at a howto please?
[03:31] <boredofthesane> hrdwrbob: leme check 1 sec
[03:31] <terranwannabe> any advice?
[03:31] <HrdwrBoB> jbm__: administration->login screen setup
[03:31] <SaMRoX> whatthe best MSN client? (I dont want aMSN or gaim) help!!
[03:31] <HrdwrBoB> from there you can allow remote connections to GDM
[03:31] <HrdwrBoB> wher eyou can login
[03:31] <SaMRoX> whats the best MSN client? (I dont want aMSN or gaim) help!!
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> SaMRoX: once is enough
[03:32] <SaMRoX> HrdwrBoB, I corrected the spelling mistake
[03:32] <nickrud> terranwannabe, that's _far_ over my head, but there's a couple of people here that probably can tell if you if it's possilble
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> ah, so you did
[03:33] <HrdwrBoB> anyway, gaim is generally held to be very good
[03:33] <^vir^> SaMRoX,  gaim is your best bet for webcam support
[03:33] <^vir^> gaim-vv
[03:33] <terranwannabe> someone did it on Ubuntu for me before, but I forgot how and now that I've reinstalled, I need to do it again
[03:33] <terranwannabe> at least it's possible
[03:33] <jbm__> HrdwrBoB I see i can configure remote login there but what is command to login to gdm from foreign terminal? can i just ssh in and then startx?
[03:33] <terranwannabe> all on channel - has anyone been reading my messages and thought of a solution?
[03:33] <boredofthesane> hdrwrbob: is there a system command that will spit it back to me?
[03:34] <nickrud> terranwannabe, that'll teach you about backups and written logs :)
[03:34] <terranwannabe> yeah, I just enabled logging in Xchat. Forgot about it the first time around :;
[03:35] <xMaximex> is it possible to mount ntfs FW?
[03:35] <xMaximex> RW
[03:35] <HrdwrBoB> terranwannabe: you can put the module for the usb audio in blacklist
[03:35] <HrdwrBoB> jbm__: no it's a bit more complicated than that
[03:36] <nickrud> terranwannabe, that, on rereading, was a pretty flippant thing to say, and I apologize
[03:36] <boredofthesane> thanks for all your help guys!
[03:36] <boredofthesane> bye!
[03:38] <SaMRoX> do you know why the aMSN sometimes gets "tilt" or it even doesn't opens?
[03:38] <Predshowah> bugs with 2.6
[03:38] <Predshowah> kernel
[03:38] <SaMRoX> any fix?
[03:38] <Cowlike> You cannot make NTFS
[03:38] <Cowlike> writable with Linux tools only. There is a driver called captive-ntfs,
[03:38] <Cowlike> which uses the original Windows driver. But NTFS-write access is not
[03:38] <Cowlike> recommended.
[03:39] <Cowlike> sorry, found that on a web page... didn't paste well!
[03:40] <terranwannabe> not a problem, nickrud
[03:40] <terranwannabe> not when I've thought the same thing myself
[03:40] <xMaximex> Is it possible to mount ntfs partition with write permission ??
[03:40] <terranwannabe> but I'm surprised that with 502 people on this channel no one has responded...
[03:40] <terranwannabe> anyone on channel up for an ALSA question?
[03:41] <^vir^> Cowlike, paragon ntfs
[03:41] <Veritas> Should I create a Linux Swap Partition for Ubuntu?
[03:41] <Cowlike> supposedly you can compile write access into the kernel, after which you can use "rw" in the mount command
[03:41] <nickrud> an offtopic question, but I'm new to irc, and I'm wondering why I'm getting port probes from proxyscan.freenode.net
[03:41] <HrdwrBoB> nickrud: they are checking you are not an open proxy
[03:41] <^vir^> http://www.ntfs-linux.com/
[03:41] <nickrud> HrdwrBoB, thanks
[03:41] <HrdwrBoB> jbm__: ok
[03:41] <kyncani> Veritas: yeah
[03:42] <HrdwrBoB> jbm__: as long as you have enabled XDCMP in gdm (in the login screen setup I mentioned before)
[03:42] <HrdwrBoB> and allowed remote logins etc
[03:42] <Predshowah> Veritas, downloaded already=
[03:42] <Predshowah> ?
[03:42] <HrdwrBoB> what you so is start X with -query server
[03:42] <HrdwrBoB> where server is the server running gdm
[03:42] <b0urn3> does anyone know how how to mount an ipod shuffle?
[03:42] <tarvid> new ubuntu user looking for help setting up via mii 10000 system
[03:42] <Cowlike> ntfs writing is always written about wiht disclaimers about how broken it is and how you have a chance to hose your data. (wtih the free solutions anyway)
[03:42] <Veritas> Yes, Pred.
[03:42] <tarvid> dvd playback is choppy
[03:42] <xMaximex> ok
[03:42] <Veritas> I have a DVD iso that has the instal/Boot disc
[03:42] <HrdwrBoB> tarvid: do you know if DMA is enabled
[03:43] <tarvid> how would i check that?
[03:43] <Veritas> Vir: I'm not interested in pay $70 for that :P
[03:43] <^vir^> :P
[03:44] <Veritas> How much space do people generally put on swap partitions?
[03:44] <jbm__> HrdwrBob thanks ill look into xdcmp and see how she works!
[03:44] <kyncani> Veritas: about 50-100% ram
[03:44] <nickrud> 2Xphysmem
[03:44] <Veritas> Cool, thanks Kyn.. What exactly is the purpose of a Swap Partition?
[03:44] <terranwannabe> 2xphysmem is a rule only applicable to older or lower-mem computers
[03:44] <kyncani> Veritas: unused memory will go to swap
[03:45] <nickrud> terranwannabe, got me :)
[03:45] <terranwannabe> if you're above 256 or so, 1x or 0.5x physmem is fine
[03:45] <HrdwrBoB> tarvid: assuming your DVD is hdc
[03:45] <kyncani> Veritas: that if you have enough ram of course (and you should)
[03:45] <HrdwrBoB> tarvid: sudo hdparm /dev/hdc
[03:45] <HrdwrBoB> to enable DMA hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[03:45] <tarvid> /dev/hda:
[03:45] <tarvid>  multcount    =  0 (off)
[03:45] <tarvid>  IO_support   =  1 (32-bit)
[03:45] <tarvid>  unmaskirq    =  1 (on)
[03:45] <tarvid>  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[03:45] <tarvid>  keepsettings =  0 (off)
[03:46] <tarvid>  readonly     =  0 (off)
[03:46] <tarvid>  readahead    = 256 (on)
[03:46] <tarvid>  geometry     = 58168/16/63, sectors =<PHONE_NUMBER>8, start = 0
[03:46] <Veritas> I have 512 megs of high quality Corsiar... And a 60 gig HD (I gave my Linux partion 10 gigs, so I assume another 512 from my windows partition will be succifient)
[03:46] <fightingfortofu> i dont understand why im getting this error when i sudo apt-get install java-package fakeroot
[03:46] <nickrud> tarvid, pasting here like that is not advisable :)
[03:46] <fightingfortofu> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:46] <fightingfortofu> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:46] <terranwannabe> do you have synaptic open, fightingfortofu?
[03:46] <fightingfortofu> yes :(
[03:46] <nickrud> fightingfortofu, you either have synaptic open somewhere, or killed something
[03:46] <HrdwrBoB> tarvid: ok that looks good
[03:47] <terranwannabe> that's the problem
[03:47] <fightingfortofu> it works now!! thank you
[03:47] <tarvid> HrdwrBoB, the through put looks low 10.83 MB/Sec, I would expect 30
[03:48] <hybrid> hello all
[03:48] <terranwannabe> hello
[03:48] <Veritas> Ahoy.
[03:49] <hybrid> hey nomasteryoda!!!!!!
[03:50] <hybrid> long time no see
[03:51] <terranwannabe> seriously, does anyone know anything about ALSA?
[03:52] <hybrid> terrawannabe: i know it sux
[03:52] <hybrid> esd is better
[03:52] <gfoxiness> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=117356&postcount=34 , on this page to model for smart link i need it to get my modem work but the i can not access the url on "http://apqi.com/ubuntu/sl-modem-modules-2.6.10-5-386_2.9.9a-1ubuntu2+2.6.10-34_i386.deb" and "http://apqi.com/ubuntu/sl-modem-daemon_2.9.9a-1ubuntu2_i386.deb" to download it any help please
[03:52] <tarvid> i am a turkey, dma is off on the dvd drive, how would i turn it on?
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> tarvid: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/device
[03:53] <HrdwrBoB> :)
[03:53] <tarvid> is that permanent?
[03:54] <nickrud> tarvid, take a look at /etc/hdparm.conf, you can make it permanent there
[03:57] <gfoxiness> http://apqi.com/ubuntu/sl-modem-modules-2.6.10-5-386_2.9.9a-1ubuntu2+2.6.10-34_i386.deb , can any one send this to my e-mail please
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> hey hybrid
[03:58] <FeJaOr> a question in here....
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> i am still using ubuntu
[03:58] <FeJaOr>  I dont know what's going on with my desktop but this is the second time this happened
[03:58] <hybrid> wow
[03:58] <FeJaOr> I don't have any program in there where Im supposed to have Computer, Trash, etc....
[03:58] <FeJaOr> and this happened without doing anything in special
[03:59] <FeJaOr> and I right click over the desktop and nothing happens
[03:59] <FeJaOr> whats up with that???
[03:59] <Cowlike> did you just reboot after doing a system upgrade?
[04:00] <Veritas> When burning the Ubuntu DVD with Nero should I burn with DVD-ROM (iso) or DVD-ROM (boot) ?
[04:00] <Veritas> There is no image with the download, the files were already extracted it seems.
[04:00] <CarlK> l-fy: but is wrong to not have /usr/local/lib in ld.so.conf
[04:00] <CarlK> hoary dosn't
[04:01] <CarlK> anyone know if it should/shouldn't why it isn't?
[04:01] <FeJaOr> Cowlike, are you asking me?
[04:01] <Veritas> Can someone please help me? :x
[04:01] <FeJaOr> Cowlike, I didn't do any upgrade...........
[04:02] <gunny> Veritas where did you get that download?
[04:02] <FeJaOr> I dunno.......I didn't installed anything new
[04:02] <FeJaOr> and I've restarted like 2 or 3 times
[04:03] <hybrid> if i downgrade will i lose anything besides newest packages?
[04:03] <FeJaOr> Cowlike, I mean, when I first start ubuntu everything's normal...but after a while, this happens.....and had happened 2 times
[04:05] <KingArthur> question, what do I have to kill in order to get sounds to work on games?  Someone told me, and I forgot to write it down, and I'd like some sound to my games.  lol.  I'll write it down this time, promise ;-)
[04:05] <dcraven> FeJaOr: Sounds like nautilus died. You can restart it and see what happens.
[04:05] <gunny> kingarthur:esd
[04:06] <KingArthur> so, gunny, it is killall esd ?
[04:06] <FeJaOr> dcraven, I click on the logout option and there's nothing showing up
[04:06] <FeJaOr> :S
[04:07] <gunny> KA: yes
[04:07] <dcraven> FeJaOr: can you open a terminal?
[04:07] <KingArthur> awesome.  thanks bunches.
[04:07] <gunny> de nachos
[04:07] <FeJaOr> dcraven, yes
[04:07] <dcraven> FeJaOr: GNOME right?
[04:07] <FeJaOr> dcraven, yes
[04:07] <dcraven> FeJaOr: type "nautilus&" in a terminal and see what happens.
[04:08] <FeJaOr> dcraven, [1]  10334
[04:08] <dcraven> FeJaOr: that's it? hehe
[04:08] <FeJaOr> yeap
[04:09] <FeJaOr> dcraven, and with sudo....it shows this
[04:09] <aka_daemon> hi
[04:09] <dcraven> FeJaOr: can your right-click on the desktop now?
[04:09] <FeJaOr> dcraven, [1]  10370
[04:09] <aka_daemon> does anyone know whether irc requires the auth port to be open?
[04:09] <FeJaOr> dcraven, noup but the folder root just popedup
[04:09] <brenton> anyone here have openoffice base (2.0 beta)?
[04:09] <DeadDrunk> hmm...
[04:09] <Veritas> There is no image with the download, the files were already extracted it seems.
[04:09] <dcraven> FeJaOr: you can stop running it now.. You've probably got plenty of nautilus sessions running now.. lol
[04:09] <Veritas> When burning the Ubuntu DVD with Nero should I burn with DVD-ROM (iso) or DVD-ROM (boot) ?
[04:09] <FeJaOr> dcraven, I opened the Desktop folder but nothing's there
[04:10] <FeJaOr> dcraven, i better reboot
[04:10] <dcraven> FeJaOr: That folder is empty in a new install.
[04:10] <Veritas> Someone. Please. I want to get this burned
[04:10] <DeadDrunk> i am trying to load ubuntu on a a64 laptop... when i get to the file zlib1g during the install base system portion i get a return value 1 error
[04:11] <jubei> how can I make my udev rule execute on startup?
[04:11] <gunny> got kicked Veritas, did you answer my question?
[04:12] <dcraven> Veritas: The DVD download is not an ISO?
[04:12] <gunny> that's what I'm wondering, where did it comefrom?
[04:12] <dcraven> DeadDrunk: did you check the md5sum of that image you burned?
[04:12] <SpookyET> hi
[04:12] <SpookyET> to whom should /boot/grub/menu.lst belong? it belongs to root, yet I always have to type configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst at boot
[04:13] <SpookyET> it does not do it automatically
[04:13] <SpookyET> hidemenu is commented out
[04:13] <dcraven> SpookyET: yeah it's root's... rw-r--r--
[04:13] <SpookyET> it's roots
[04:13] <SpookyET> but why does not it load it by default?
[04:14] <Predius> =(
[04:14] <Predius> Breezy is still buggy as hell.
[04:14] <mvelasco2> hi, I want to setup an email server...anybody have any good links on this?
[04:14] <nickrud> 'just how buggy is it'
[04:14] <gunny> as hell apparantly
[04:14] <dcraven> SpookyET: I've never heard of this "configfile" thing.. SOrry.
[04:14] <HrdwrBoB> Predius: hah, well it's still early days
[04:14] <Predius> I can't get my email from fetchmail
[04:14] <HrdwrBoB> Predius: nothing on hoary is really out of date anyway
[04:14] <RastaMahata> mvelasco2, have you made a search for "linux mail server" in google?
[04:14] <Predius> my boot is FULL of errors
[04:15] <rillian> yay, the live cd worked. is there an easy way to do an install from there, or should I just download the install image?
[04:15] <FeJaOr> does anybody know how to mount a NTFS partition in order to get it in the desktop as an mountable/unmountable device such as the CD roms??
[04:15] <dcraven> Predius: no doubt you were warned ;P
[04:15] <mvelasco2> RastaMahata: I was looking for something more specific to ubuntu
[04:15] <SpookyET> configfile loads the grub config file
[04:15] <abarbaccia> hey guys - anybody here use beagle and know if it supports thunderbird email yet?
[04:15] <SpookyET> the menu
[04:15] <dcraven> rillian: you should get the install disk.
[04:15] <RastaMahata> FeJaOr, if you mount them in fstab, im quite sure you can unmount them with a right click
[04:15] <ryman> hello, I installed nmap but when I open it it say i'm not root so some options aren't available. how do I log in at root ?
[04:16] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, fstab?? what or wheres that?
[04:16] <nickrud> ryman, sudo nmap
[04:16] <aka_daemon> ryman: sudo nmap
[04:16] <RastaMahata> mvelasco2, ubuntu is based in debian, and when installing sarge, there's an option to say "I want a mail server" :P
[04:16] <ryman> nickrud|   , aka_daemon  thanks
[04:16] <RastaMahata> FeJaOr, look in the forums www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:16] <aka_daemon> disconnect
[04:16] <mvelasco2> RastaMahata: OK, thanks
[04:16] <RastaMahata> www.ubuntuguide.org has some tips for it too
[04:16] <rillian> dcraven: gar. thanks.
[04:16] <Veritas> dcraven: No, it's not an ISO
[04:16] <Veritas> it's straight files
[04:17] <gunny> Veritas: I wouldn't trust that or install it
[04:17] <dcraven> Veritas: I'd guess that the iso option in Nero would be the incorrect choice then?
[04:17] <dcraven> Veritas: I'm with gunny.
[04:17] <RastaMahata> FeJaOr, for example, this is my line to mount my Windows partition in Ubuntu:
[04:18] <RastaMahata> /dev/hda1       /media/Windows    ntfs    auto,user,exec,umask=0222     0      0
[04:18] <jubei> I still cant get my mouse to go 800cpi on startup. I have to unpug it and plug it back in to get it to work. Can anyone help?
[04:18] <Predius> The download I linked you was an ISO.
[04:18] <KingArthur> ok, Horay claims to work on 24MB of ram, but when I try to install it on my system with 32MB of Ram, it won't finish installing.  It always stops at the part where it is loading the module for my NiC firmwware
[04:18] <Veritas> Gunny: It's from the official ubuntu website
[04:18] <gunny> Veritas: Ubuntu is distributed in ISO format
[04:18] <gunny> Veritas, do you happen to have winrar on your pc?
[04:19] <hams> for iptables, what ports do i have to open for NFS?
[04:19] <Veritas> http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/dvd/current/
[04:19] <KingArthur> it just keeps trying and trying to load the module, stops loading it, then trys again.
[04:19] <RastaMahata> gunny, apt-get install rar unrar
[04:19] <Veritas> That's where I got it from
[04:19] <Veritas> YEs, Gunny
[04:19] <nickrud> KingArthur, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2376.html
[04:19] <Veritas> I extracted it with WinRAR
[04:19] <Predius> ...
[04:19] <Predius> Don't.
[04:19] <RastaMahata> oh, windows
[04:19] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, let me take a look on my lines
[04:19] <Predius> Use the ISO.
[04:19] <gunny> veritas: there is your problem
[04:19] <Predius> And burn it as an image on Nero.
[04:19] <RastaMahata> FeJaOr, ok
[04:19] <gunny> veritas: just open nero, nad chose burn image, then chose the iso
[04:20] <Veritas> Oh.
[04:20] <Veritas> Oops.
[04:20] <nickrud> lol
[04:20] <Veritas> Thanks :P
[04:20] <RastaMahata> FeJaOr, http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[04:21] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, and with that line it mounts in the way Im telling you??
[04:21] <nickrud> FeJaOr, no offense, but you really need to start reading some documentation yourself
[04:21] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, yeah, that's the way I got them mounted.....the ubuntuguide way....
[04:22] <RastaMahata> well, have you tried to right click on the hard drive in the computer window, and then click on unmount?
[04:22] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, but somehow, the last time I started ubuntu, they just appear in my desktop and that was the way I like them to be....but I restart my computer and they were gone :(
[04:23] <RastaMahata> oh
[04:23] <RastaMahata> I see
[04:23] <RastaMahata> ok, then do this
[04:23] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, I don't have them on the computer menu either
[04:23] <RastaMahata> see where it says umask=0222?
[04:23] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, and that's where I want them to be too
[04:23] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, yess
[04:23] <RastaMahata> FeJaOr, see where it says umask=0222?
[04:24] <RastaMahata> FeJaOr, replace for "auto,user,exec,umask=0222"
[04:24] <RastaMahata> without the "
[04:24] <FeJaOr> sure
[04:24] <FeJaOr> done
[04:25] <RastaMahata> now mount -a
[04:25] <RastaMahata> sudo mount -a
[04:25] <FeJaOr> ok
[04:25] <FeJaOr> perfect
[04:25] <RastaMahata> now, if you see them in the computer, reboot and cross your fingers
[04:25] <Predius> Haha, I rock.
[04:25] <RastaMahata> ;)
[04:25] <FeJaOr> they're in the computer screen
[04:25] <Predius> I fixed the fetchmail.
[04:26] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, are they, hopefully, gonna be in the desktop as well after I reboot??
[04:26] <Predius> The mailing list scares me.
[04:26] <RastaMahata> yes
[04:26] <RastaMahata> hopefully ;)
[04:26] <FeJaOr> ok
[04:26] <Predius> I had to unsubscribe because the amount of mail I got was to much.
[04:26] <RastaMahata> reboot and good luck
[04:26] <FeJaOr> I will restart then and let you now
[04:26] <FeJaOr> thanks
[04:26] <RastaMahata> no problemo
[04:27] <nickrud> So, what was needed to fix fetchmail :)
[04:27] <Predius> I just downgraed, =D
[04:27] <dcraven> Predius: sort the mail with procmail and it will seem more manageable :)
[04:27] <Predius> I do.
[04:27] <nickrud> pool is good :)
[04:27] <Predius> It's still too much.
[04:27] <dcraven> Predius: Nevermind then.
[04:27] <Predius> My connection is 128k.
[04:28] <Predius> If I get 40+ mails every time I download, It takes a while.
[04:28] <dcraven> Predius: Ahh I see.
[04:28] <dcraven> Predius: I gotta say I love my mail server.
[04:28] <Predius> haha.
[04:28] <Predius> Do you have a domain name'
[04:28] <Predius> ?
[04:28] <nickrud> considering I lived at a 3k pipe for a year, I have no sympathy
[04:28] <dcraven> Predius: Just dyndns.
[04:28] <Predius> Ah,
[04:29] <Predius> 3k?
[04:29] <Predius> As in 3000 or 3k?
[04:29] <Predius> How did you survive?
[04:29] <nickrud> as in 3.3kiilobits
[04:29] <Predius> How did you survive?
[04:29] <nickrud> well, my debian system did suffer a bit of bitrot
[04:30] <Predius> why did you have to go on 3.3k?
[04:30] <nickrud> maillists, overnight :)
[04:30] <fightingfortofu> how do you run java.jar files in llinux? i should have java installed, java file.jar brings Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: NeurosDBM/1/48/jar
[04:30] <nickrud> I lived in a rural area, with 40 year old wires
[04:30] <Predius> javac
[04:30] <Predius> Ah.
[04:30] <hyphenated> fightingfortofu: java -jar blah.jar
[04:30] <Predius> yeah, follow what hyphenated said.
[04:30] <Predius> ;P
[04:31] <fightingfortofu> excellent! thanks!
[04:31] <nickrud> 212k now, and I am happy
[04:31] <hyphenated> if that doesn't work, it wasn't packaged as an executable .jar file, or it depends on other .jar files being in your CLASSPATH
[04:31] <Predius> Moved?
[04:31] <hyphenated> (in which case, you usually want a wrapper script to set that and execute the java program correctly)
[04:31] <nickrud> how else? You think the phone company would help?
[04:31] <nickrud> lol
[04:32] <Predius> Where'd you live=
[04:32] <Predius> ?
[04:32] <nickrud> outside santa maria, california
[04:32] <Predius> Ah.
[04:32] <Predius> Don't you have better choices?
[04:32] <Predius> I mean, I have no more than 128k for this price.
[04:32] <nickrud> I had to have the phone co come install a filter so I didn't get radio over the voice part of the line :)
[04:33] <Predius> I can get to 600k at about 300 dollars.
[04:33] <nickrud> and that is no hyperboly
[04:33] <hybrid> how do i downgrade back to hoary?
[04:33] <nickrud> lol
[04:33] <Jogariga> how can i update firefox?
[04:34] <Predius> you don't
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> LOLROTF
[04:34] <nickrud> reinstall
[04:34] <Predius> Yeah.
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> yup, reinstall
[04:34] <Predius> or remove packages
[04:34] <Mahl> running ubuntu on a 3ghz 512 MB ram...200 gb hdd, 21 inch monitor, Nvidia fx 5700 and a 10 MB line
[04:34] <Predius> and change apt
[04:34] <Mahl> works great
[04:34] <hybrid> how do i remove packages
[04:34] <Predius> apt-get remove <kkk>
[04:34] <] BreliC[> this may seem like a silly question, but is there a command line function that will return my external IP?  I want to determine the external IP, not the internal one, as given to me by 'ifconfig'
[04:34] <bob2> you can't
[04:34] <Predius> www.whereismyip.com ?
[04:34] <nickrud> hybrid, if you're serious, change your sources, and work your way through the dependencies with aptitude
[04:34] <Mahl> http://www.whatismyip.com
[04:35] <bob2> you need to ask ano external machine, like www.whatismyip.com
[04:35] <Predius> Damnit.
[04:35] <Lydon> ipchicken.com
[04:35] <bob2> you could write a simple script to extract it from there
[04:35] <Predius> lawl hack me plz
[04:35] <Predius> <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:35] <hams> anyone know what ports to open for NFS?
[04:35] <] BreliC[> ok, thanks everyone, i'll check it out
[04:35] <hybrid> well i have been with out a gui and i decided to d/g but nooooooo
[04:35] <hybrid> grrr
[04:35] <^thehatsrule^> ] BreliC[, you can just dns yourself using mirc commands!
[04:35] <^thehatsrule^> or your own whois
[04:35] <^thehatsrule^> w/e
[04:36] <bob2> hams: you can't really firewall a machine using nfs
[04:36] <nickrud> grc.com gives back your isp, if you're lazy
[04:36] <hams> bob2, why not?
[04:36] <hybrid> well bbl
[04:36] <nickrud> s/isp/ip
[04:36] <^thehatsrule^> ] BreliC[, your ip is <IP_ADDRESS> ...
[04:36] <bob2> hams: because the portmapper picks random ports
[04:37] <hams> bob2, totally random? there's no ranges?
[04:37] <] BreliC[> thanks ^thehatsrule^ :)  I guess what I wanted to do was more along the lines of what bob2 was suggesting.  When and if my ip changes (which it does on occasion, but not as often as other dynip providers), I want cron to email/sms me the new IP
[04:38] <^thehatsrule^> ah yes, i use rogers myself
[04:38] <] BreliC[> thought maybe there was a command i could use and pipe it to email, but a script based on whereismyip.com sounds about right
[04:38] <^thehatsrule^> changes every 1/2 year or so
[04:38] <bob2> hams: you can set the range
[04:38] <] BreliC[> exactly :)
[04:38] <bob2> hams: not sure where tho, I'd imagine /etc/default/portmap or so
[04:38] <steven_> as a newbie is there anyone who can giveme hand
[04:39] <Predius> argh
[04:39] <Predius> why are so many people joining and leaving?
[04:39] <Jogariga> how do i know the name of the package firefox?
[04:39] <Predius> mozilla-firefox
[04:39] <nickrud> Jogariga, apt-cache search firefox
[04:39] <Predius> what, steven_?
[04:39] <^thehatsrule^> ] BreliC[, you can use an irc script :P
[04:40] <steven_> i set up the system as a dual boot Predius but how do I switch back to windows
[04:40] <Predius> reboot?
[04:40] <^thehatsrule^> use the grub
[04:40] <Jogariga> how can i install firefox 1.0.3? Using apt-get i get 1.0.2
[04:40] <^thehatsrule^> or, if somehow it dont work, change the boot sequence in your bios
[04:40] <gbhat> anyone using both GNOME and KDE with Hoary?
[04:40] <^thehatsrule^> Jogariga, maybe change to testing?
[04:41] <FeJaOr> I didn't work :(
[04:41] <Predius> Jogariga, there should be a red blob on the top left of firefox
[04:41] <gbhat> I have got a mishmash of either apps in the menus. How do I change that in GNOME?
[04:41] <steven_> is the grub automatically installed
[04:41] <Predius> click on it.
[04:41] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, it didn't worked....
[04:41] <] BreliC[> ^thehatsrule^, how?  and run it through something like epic?
[04:41] <^thehatsrule^> dunno... heh, just a suggestion :P
[04:41] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, they are mounted in computer but not mounted in the desktop
[04:41] <] BreliC[> hehe
[04:41] <Quinn_Storm> gbhat: the way it works in debian-based systems is that all the X11 apps get menu entries in all the X environments (gnome, xfce, kde, etc.)
[04:41] <nickrud> Jogariga, 1.0.2 is the latest version available to ubuntu
[04:42] <^thehatsrule^> i personally dont need it... as everywere says your ip
[04:42] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, plus I got some other device "mounted" called usb0 which I dunno what that is
[04:42] <] BreliC[> ^thehatsrule^, yes, but not when you're not at home and it changes
[04:42] <gbhat> Quinn_Storm, not apparently in my system. the entries from the other desktops are selective
[04:42] <^thehatsrule^> hmm
[04:42] <RastaMahata> w0rd :)
[04:42] <nickrud> gbhat, do you have the package menu installed?
[04:42] <Quinn_Storm> gbhat: yeah it doesn't contain 100% of everything b/c the .desktop files can contain "show-in" type entries that say only show in kde or gnome or whatever
[04:43] <gbhat> nickrud, package menu?
[04:43] <RastaMahata> FeJaOr, at least they get mounted on boot :S
[04:43] <Quinn_Storm> gbhat: its all part of the debian menu system & the freedesktop.org stuff
[04:43] <IIIEars> Fejar - If you have a Western Digital drive it could be a "Data Rescue" partition copy of the part table.
[04:43] <nickrud> gbhat, yeah, that's debian's catchall menu program
[04:43] <ryman> hmm my keyboard didn't respond after I install the upgrade of OpenOffice . I had to restart
[04:43] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, they were getting mounted on boot though....but I liked that they are now mounted on the computer :D
[04:43] <^thehatsrule^> ] BreliC[ do you have a direct connection to the internet with 1 computer?
[04:43] <FeJaOr> IIIEars, I don't have western digital :S
[04:43] <gbhat> nickrud, what is the name again?
[04:43] <] BreliC[> ^thehatsrule^, nope, both behind the router
[04:44] <^thehatsrule^> ah thats why...
[04:44] <gbhat> package-menu?
[04:44] <^thehatsrule^> mine has 1 as a main server
[04:44] <nickrud> it's part of 'policy' that programs create a file that menu can read and create an entry in any window manager
[04:44] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, but is there anyway to do wath I wanted??
[04:44] <nickrud> apt-get install menu
[04:44] <RastaMahata> get them in places? Not that I know of, and I think gnome wasnt designed for that
[04:44] <dracflamloc> hm
[04:44] <etzerd> Hello room I need some help
[04:44] <gbhat> lol
[04:44] <dracflamloc> anjuta just decided to start crashing every time i start it
[04:45] <dracflamloc> anyone ever have that happen?
[04:45] <sproingie> etzerd: just ask
[04:45] <gbhat> so how do I invoke it nickrud?
[04:45] <Lydon> I was looking at some screen shots the other day and saw an RSS Reader that displayed the text on top of the desktop wallpaper, anyone know what it was?
[04:45] <hybrid> sigh
[04:45] <RastaMahata> dracflamloc, I hate it when programs get their period
[04:45] <Quinn_Storm> Lydon: probably something like gdesklets or karamba/superkaramba
[04:45] <gbhat> bash: menu: command not found
[04:45] <IIIEars> etzred - no need to ask if you can ask - linux questions are what we are here for. :)
[04:45] <etzerd> I went to Ubuntuguide.org and I copy the link that install RealPlayer 10 then I have this error message "Connecting to myosc.org[<IP_ADDRESS>] :80... connected.
[04:45] <etzerd> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
[04:45] <etzerd> 22:43:10 ERROR 403: Forbidden.
[04:45] <etzerd> "
[04:45] <nickrud> gbhat, just what are you doing, that'll shorten this (I hope :)
[04:45] <digitalfox> does Ubuntu use a modified Clearlooks engine?
[04:45] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, Is like the same as you insert a cd
[04:46] <gbhat> I wanted to remove KDE entries from GNOME menu
[04:46] <RastaMahata> FeJaOr, yeah, when you insert a cd, it gets mounted. hehe
[04:46] <sproingie> etzerd: looks like a problem with myosc.org
[04:46] <etzerd> Well I don't know
[04:46] <dracflamloc> i tried removing and reinstalling but no luck
[04:46] <nickrud> gbhat, that is not at all what I expected :0
[04:46] <dracflamloc> tried deleting the .anjuta directory too
[04:46] <RastaMahata> look, there was a command, I dont know now, look in the forums, that was a workaround to this... and that command made the hard drives shown in places
[04:47] <gbhat> lmfao! yeah now I have a cute little Debian menu added :)
[04:47] <nickrud> I haven't a clue, other than removing the kde programs
[04:47] <Lydon> ah... thanks Quin_Storm
[04:47] <RastaMahata> im going to bed now, So i cant help you...
[04:47] <etzerd> It seems like the repositories files is not working
[04:47] <IIIEars> kb3 gave me a little excitement - spit out the disk and continued working on an empty drive - lol - the disk worked tho - grin
[04:47] <gbhat> how can GNOME not ahve a menu-editor is beyond me
[04:47] <dracflamloc> lol
[04:47] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, and it gets displayed in the desktop....how come those partitions cant??
[04:47] <dracflamloc> gbhat i know
[04:47] <Predius> 'Cause Fluxbox is better, gbhat. =D
[04:47] <nickrud> gbhat, they had one, they thought it wasn't good enough, so they dropped it
[04:47] <nickrud> google gnome-menu-editor
[04:48] <RastaMahata> cause they're partitions, not "media" ;)
[04:48] <gbhat> alright another question, whenever I log into Hoary, I have to go to Volume COntrol and uncheck the box for "switches->IEC598 Capture Monitor" to get sound to work. How can I make this change permanent?
[04:48] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, well...thats weird cause as I told you, that justa happened
[04:48] <RastaMahata> you connect an usb drive, its media. you insert a cd, it media...
[04:48] <FeJaOr> but Im happy with what I got :)
[04:48] <IIIEars> kb3 - made a coaster before changing to "Joliet" from linux's "rockRidge" extension - windows hates RockRidge - in fact windows hates rock anything especially rock stable rock steady etc.
[04:49] <RastaMahata> FeJaOr, yeah, it used to happen to me too
[04:49] <RastaMahata> FeJaOr, but im happy with this, it feels more "pro" ;)
[04:49] <RastaMahata> more mac alike too! xD
[04:49] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, weeiiiirrrdd.......hey let me ask you 2 more questions....how come I get two messages on boot that my HP PSC 1210 is configured??
[04:50] <Veritas> My Ubuntu swap partition came out named SWAPSPACE2, is that regular?
[04:50] <RastaMahata> is it a laptop?
[04:50] <IIIEars> "PSC 1210"?
[04:50] <Veritas> Yes
[04:50] <Veritas> It's a Laptop
[04:50] <Predius> Are you on Linux now?
[04:50] <Veritas> No
[04:50] <Veritas> I'm on my PC
[04:50] <] BreliC[> ^thehatsrule^, well, i wrote a little script that works, but very crude at the moment... guess I"ll keep plugging away at it
[04:50] <FeJaOr> yeap
[04:50] <^thehatsrule^> heh at least it works :P
[04:50] <gbhat> HP PSC 1210 works like a champ with Linux. ONly shame is it cannot be used as a network printer.
[04:50] <IIIEars> Ugh- Windows = Install, Connect, reinstall, repeat.
[04:51] <RastaMahata> well.. there oyu go
[04:51] <gbhat> alright another question, whenever I log into Hoary, I have to go to Volume COntrol and uncheck the box for "switches->IEC598 Capture Monitor" to get sound to work. How can I make this change permanent?
[04:51] <FeJaOr> its working fine for me but just wondering why in boot is "mounting" it twice??
[04:51] <RastaMahata> as far as I have read, Ubuntu has some configuration files/scripts for laptops... ;) so dont worry :D
[04:51] <nickrud> hey, don't badmouth the psc1210, it only takes 5 minutes per page
[04:51] <Veritas> So it is regular with a laptop
[04:51] <Veritas> To have SWAPSPACE2
[04:52] <RastaMahata> FeJaOr, what port do you use to connect it?
[04:52] <gbhat> nickrud, atleast it aint a piece of junk like the Lexmarks that have little or no Linux support
[04:52] <RastaMahata> Veritas, sudo fdisk -l
[04:52] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, usb port
[04:52] <gbhat> nickrud, can you help me with my sound problem?
[04:52] <Lydon> yeah, it's a bia getting a lexmark to work in Linux
[04:52] <w00tw00t> if I want to run a command at startup where would I put it?
[04:52] <nickrud> gbhat, I've had one of those too. I used it as a copier
[04:52] <nickrud> gbhat, maybe
[04:52] <RastaMahata> FeJaOr, well, thats it, I bet it appears after hotplug
[04:53] <gbhat> alright nickrud , whenever I log into Hoary, I have to go to Volume COntrol and uncheck the box for "switches->IEC598 Capture Monitor" to get sound to work. How can I make this change permanent?
[04:53] <FeJaOr> it is working though....i think so :S
[04:53] <FeJaOr> jajajjaa
[04:53] <RastaMahata> si hablas espaol, esto hubiese sido un poco mas facil quizas xD
[04:53] <w00tw00t> if I want to run a command at startup where would I put it?
[04:53] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, si claro...mucho mas facil
[04:54] <nickrud> gbhat, why ask me a simple one :)
[04:54] <gbhat> w00tw00t, you using GNOME?
[04:54] <RastaMahata> at what startup? boot? gnome?
[04:54] <w00tw00t> startup
[04:54] <RastaMahata> FeJaOr, suerte con tu instalacion de Ubuntu. Nos vemos.
[04:54] <gbhat> if using GNOME, System->Prefernces->Sessions
[04:54] <FeJaOr> RastaMahata, hasta luego y gracias
[04:54] <RastaMahata> Good night channel!
[04:55] <nickrud> gbhat, last I heard, aumix successfully saved all alsa settings for reboot YMMV
[04:55] <gbhat> nickrud, while logging off I see a message that says aumix will not touch the settings
[04:55] <w00tw00t> thanks
[04:55] <w00tw00t> I will see if that is what I want
[04:55] <w00tw00t> :-D
[04:57] <Janux> how do i change my desktop manager from Gnome to Fluxbox?
[04:57] <ubuntu_> 5/1
[04:58] <ubuntu_> mmmm
[04:58] <ubuntu_> hola
[04:58] <ubuntu_> necesito ayuda
[04:58] <ubuntu_> las X no jalan en el portatil
[04:58] <HrdwrBoB> no
[04:58] <ubuntu_> alguien tiene idea de que hacer
[04:58] <HrdwrBoB> english please
[04:58] <ubuntu_> ok
[04:58] <ubuntu_> sorry
[04:58] <ubuntu_> the system X no run in notebook
[04:59] <ubuntu_> Dell inspiron
[04:59] <ubuntu_> T video= extreme grahics intel 2
[04:59] <nickrud> gbhat, I have no answer ;(
[04:59] <ubuntu_> the screen is in black
[04:59] <IIIEars> did you tweak the framebuffer setting?
[04:59] <dracflamloc> hm
[04:59] <Janux> how do i change my desktop manager from Gnome to Fluxbox?
[04:59] <ubuntu_> ok
[04:59] <ubuntu_> xD
[05:00] <ubuntu_> thanks
[05:00] <gbhat> darn!! the creator of PhOS just quit :(
[05:00] <IIIEars> laptops don't treat the display the same way they treat a CRT
[05:00] <ubuntu_> probare con frame buffer
[05:00] <nickrud> gbhat, you might point this to hrdwrbob
[05:00] <Balistic22> can i get some help
[05:00] <HrdwrBoB> yo
[05:00] <Balistic22> i cant get my soudn to work on ubuntu
[05:00] <gbhat> point what to HrdwrBoB ?
[05:01] <IIIEars> << (Confirmed Linux user 120 hours)
[05:01] <hybrid> i cant get my gui to work
[05:01] <Balistic22> I need some sound help =)
[05:01] <nickrud> your sound question :)
[05:01] <gbhat> ahhh
[05:01] <Balistic22> i cant get the sound to work
[05:01] <gbhat> alright nickrud , whenever I log into Hoary, I have to go to Volume COntrol and uncheck the box for "switches->IEC598 Capture Monitor" to get sound to work. How can I make this change permanent?
[05:01] <IIIEars> running a live CD from RAm - lol fresh outta RAM - brb
[05:01] <Predius> Janux, you download it.
[05:01] <gbhat> heh fogot to change name :D
[05:01] <Predius> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[05:01] <Predius> then logout.
[05:02] <Predius> And click on Session.
[05:02] <Balistic22> =(
[05:02] <Balistic22> i could use some help
[05:02] <gbhat> HrdwrBoB,  whenever I log into Hoary, I have to go to Volume COntrol and uncheck the box for "switches->IEC598 Capture Monitor" to get sound to work. How can I make this change permanent?
[05:02] <gbhat> ask your q Balistic22
[05:02] <Janux> Predius: yes I did, then?
[05:02] <nickrud> gbhat, yeah, that's the question. He's picked up for me more than once, he's probably used to it :)\
[05:02] <Janux> Predius: okay
[05:02] <Predius> logout and click on session
[05:02] <Janux> o..have to logout..ic ic....okay...
[05:02] <fightingfortofu> whats recommended for converting avi to mpeg and authoring vcds?
[05:02] <Balistic22> im running ubuntu on a Dell Optiplex Gx 1 and i just finished installing ubuntu and im wondering what i have to do
[05:02] <HrdwrBoB> gbhat: hrm.. I'm not 100% sure
[05:03] <gbhat> Balistic22, sound no worky?
[05:03] <Balistic22> yeah
[05:03] <Balistic22> doesnt work
[05:03] <Taggz> Can someone tell me how to install my display drivers I just downloaded from nvidia.com and put into my home folder?
[05:03] <gbhat> what sound card you got Balistic22 ?
[05:03] <Balistic22> i think its a crystal semiconductor
[05:03] <HrdwrBoB> Taggz: you don't want to do that
[05:03] <gbhat> Taggz, why not just apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[05:04] <Taggz> er.. ok, how can I do the apt-get install thingy
[05:04] <Balistic22> so..?
[05:04] <Balistic22> what should i do
[05:04] <gbhat> open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:04] <nickrud> Balistic22, how about doing 'lspci', and something there will tell you the exact sound card, which will help us
[05:04] <drcode> hi al
[05:04] <drcode> hi all
[05:05] <drcode> I Have navida 2 , some boot the linux load with 640x480 and some time it load with 1024x680
[05:05] <drcode> any idea why?
[05:05] <w00tw00t> I was asking about running something at boot, I need to do it before X starts
[05:05] <nickrud> Balistic22, did that make any sense to you
[05:05] <Balistic22> nickrud: i dont see anything that is related to sound there
[05:06] <Balistic22> yes it does
[05:06] <Taggz> " open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" ok that worked and did stuff, how can I tell it installed the right drivers? Or does it do it auto?
[05:06] <Predius> auto
[05:06] <^thehatsrule^> ] BreliC[ i just found an idea, your dns is always the same eh? so you could just do a dns lookup
[05:06] <gbhat> Taggz, just log out and log in again
[05:07] <drcode> thanx
[05:07] <drcode> I Will try it
[05:07] <w00tw00t> how do I run a command at startup?
[05:07] <gbhat> w00tw00t, what command do you want to run?
[05:07] <gbhat> and do you mean a service?
[05:08] <w00tw00t> it is a resolution patch
[05:08] <SiRrUs> hello
[05:08] <w00tw00t> I am trying to get a widescreen monitor working
[05:08] <fightingfortofu> system, preferences, sessions will allow you to set a command on startup i thnk, w00tw00t
[05:08] <gbhat> ummm... is it a one time patch or what?
[05:08] <w00tw00t> yeah
[05:08] <gbhat> Taggz, did it work? did you see the NVidia splash screen?
[05:09] <Taggz> nope :(
[05:09] <drcode> where I Can see what is the right driver it installed?
[05:09] <w00tw00t> supposed to run at boot
[05:09] <Taggz> and I cant set my rez any higher either
[05:09] <w00tw00t> I can run the patch and restart X and it works
[05:09] <w00tw00t> but I don't want to type it in everytime I boot
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> drcode, make sure you see it using
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> lsmod
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> lsmod | grep nvidia
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> it should be loaded
[05:10] <gbhat>  look at the post by yusufk for widescreen solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26284&page=2
[05:10] <drcode> k
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> if not, sudo modprobe nvidia
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> or similar
[05:10] <w00tw00t> thanks
[05:10] <drcode> k
[05:10] <drcode> let me check
[05:11] <drcode> it load as module?
[05:11] <Taggz> hmm I dont have a widescreen though...
[05:11] <Predius> brb
[05:11] <drcode> k
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> drcode, nvidia takes care of that usually, but you need to check to see
[05:11] <drcode> lsmod didnt show me it
[05:11] <drcode> I did use modprobe
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> ah, then try the modprobe
[05:11] <gbhat> Taggz, http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=21984
[05:11] <drcode> now it s on
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> now start x
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> or restart
[05:12] <drcode> k
[05:12] <drcode> I Will put it in bot time
[05:12] <drcode> I Dont remmber
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> it should be there automagically
[05:12] <drcode> etc/modules
[05:12] <drcode> k
[05:12] <drcode> let me checl
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> I have never had to mod that
[05:13] <drcode> it is not in /etc/modules
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> for nvidia
[05:13] <drcode> k
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> you used the binary installer?
[05:13] <drcode> k
[05:13] <Taggz> gbhat, thanks, but how do I do this "Open up to... /etc/X11/"
[05:13] <drcode> yes
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> it might be somewhere else
[05:13] <drcode> U think its there
[05:13] <drcode> k
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> i don't know on ubuntu
[05:13] <drcode> I Will try to reboot now
[05:13] <drcode> k
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> mine works fine
[05:13] <drcode> k
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:13] <drcode> I Will try to reboot
[05:13] <drcode> bye for now
[05:13] <Janux> Predius: wow..fluxbox is nice and super fast....my god..I love it....but one more question, how do I resize a window?
[05:14] <hugedisk> sorry for this, but I seem to have forgotten how to become root in ubuntu... what's the secret?
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> Janux, bottom right window
[05:14] <bob2> hugedisk: not doing so at all is the secret
[05:14] <bob2> hugedisk: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:14] <gbhat> Taggz, open a terminal and 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg/conf'
[05:14] <gbhat> Taggz, open a terminal and 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[05:14] <hugedisk> bob2, ah, excellent... thank you sir
[05:15] <Predius> Janux, you should play around with keys file
[05:15] <Taggz> gbhat thanks mate
[05:15] <Predius> I "WinKey + X" and opens Xchat
[05:15] <pixil9> Someone needs to setup a ?? bot
[05:15] <gbhat> lol
[05:15] <Predius> I "WinKey + R" opens aterm.
[05:15] <gbhat> why arent there Ubuntu newsgroups?
[05:15] <Janux> Predius: ic ic...where does that file locate so I can put shortcut key?
[05:16] <Predius> ~/.fluxbox
[05:16] <bob2> gbhat: gman.org mirrors the lists to nntp
[05:16] <Balistic22> anyone have experience with a dell optiplex gx1 im having some sound issues
[05:17] <gbhat> bob2, can you elaborate on that please?
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> Balistic22, no sound?
[05:17] <Balistic22> yeah no sound =(
[05:17] <Balistic22> my computer isnt recognizing my sound card for some reason
[05:17] <Virion[LNX] > hi, i'm a network admin from Cuba, i has installed Ubuntu last week. I try to run Mambo (the CMS from www.mamboserver.com) but it was impossible due to an error when i try to reset the passwd for mysqladmin using mysqladmin -u db_usr password ticktacktoe
[05:17] <Virion[LNX] > i get an error message
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> Balistic22, in terminal run alsamixer
[05:17] <bob2> gbhat: on which part? gmane.org mirrors lots of things to nntp.
[05:17] <Virion[LNX] > someone could help me on pv??
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> Balistic22, look for mm
[05:18] <nomasteryoda> means mute
[05:18] <Virion[LNX] > someone could help me on query??
[05:18] <Predius> Virion[LNX] , they have net admins in Cuba, ;)
[05:18] <gbhat> bob2, I use SBC Yahoo DSL and I see no newsgroups for Ubuntu on its nntp servers.
[05:18] <Virion[LNX] > Predius of course
[05:18] <Balistic22> umm ok
[05:18] <Predius> I know, I'm kidding.
[05:18] <Predius> I'm from Peru.
[05:18] <bob2> gbhat: yes, indeed, use gmane.org's one
[05:18] <Predius> Anyway, what's the error?
[05:18] <Virion[LNX] > Predius i work for the ntnl sea aquarium
[05:18] <bhearsum> is there a quick way to mark a package for removal in synaptic?
[05:19] <gbhat> bob2, gmane.org = nntp server?
[05:19] <Balistic22> sm22@ubuntu22:~$ alsamixer
[05:19] <Balistic22> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[05:19] <Balistic22> sm22@ubuntu22:~$
[05:19] <Predius> apt-get remove package?
[05:19] <bob2> gbhat: www.gmane.org has the details
[05:19] <bhearsum> Predius: i'm doing a ton at once
[05:19] <bhearsum> its easier to go through the list and click them than type them all
[05:19] <gbhat> ty bob2 already there
[05:19] <bhearsum> i don't want have to right click and hit remove on every one
[05:20] <bob2> how do you want to select them, then?
[05:20] <bhearsum> i want to hit the checkbox, and have it toggle removal
[05:20] <Predius> - key should do iy
[05:20] <w00tw00t> How do you install a .deb package in the terminal
[05:20] <bhearsum> - doesn't do it
[05:20] <Predius> dpkg -i <file .deb>
[05:20] <bhearsum> w00tw00t: dpkg -i somepack.deb
[05:20] <nomasteryoda> dpkg -i pkg.deb
[05:20] <hybrid> dpkg - deb
[05:20] <Janux> Predius: but I wanna resize my window
[05:20] <hybrid> **-i
[05:21] <Predius> Put your pointer on the bottom right
[05:21] <Predius> Look and it will change, click and move.
[05:21] <bored2k> trying to compile MPlayer gui, I get "Error: The GUI requires GTK devel packages (which were not found).". What's that package?!
[05:21] <bhearsum> no, it really doesn't
[05:21] <Predius> try getting it from the debain repositories.
[05:21] <bhearsum> bored2k: you need libgtk1.2-dev
[05:22] <Predius> *no, not debian
[05:22] <brenton> anyone here have openoffice base (2.0 beta)?
[05:22] <deang> is there a way to move the menu when the bar is "full" of icons?
[05:22] <bob2> bored2k: why are you compiling it to begin with?
[05:22] <chillywilly> from packages?
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> brenton, yea
[05:22] <chillywilly> brenton: from packages?
[05:22] <bored2k> bob2 just bored i guess :\
[05:23] <gbhat> bob2, so I cannot use a newsreader like pan to access gmane?
[05:23] <chillywilly> brenton: I have 1.9.95 installed right now by converting the rpms with alien but the unbuntu packages are too old for my tastes
[05:23] <bob2> gbhat: sure you can...
[05:23] <bored2k> bob2 : I get unmet dependencies [using backports, multi/uni and marillat
[05:23] <fightingfortofu> how do i put icons in the menus linked to commands?
[05:23] <bob2> bored2k: yes, don't use backports at all
[05:23] <bob2> bored2k: and get rid of marillat from your sources.list, the mplayer packages there are broken on hoary
[05:23] <gbhat> ahh bob2 darn !! I am slow today :D
[05:23] <nickrud> gbhat, use news.gmane.org as your nntp server. That's how I read debian
[05:24] <nickoli> has anybody here have a working wireless adapter on their box
[05:24] <bob2> nickoli: tens thousands of people do
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> nickoli, yes
[05:24] <nickoli> bob2 i want to put one in my box but im afraid of driver issues
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> built in as well as pcmcia or usb
[05:24] <bored2k> bob2 : thnx , just removed jdong's backports and now its kicking
[05:25] <gepp1> Is it possible to revert to older versions with dpkg?
[05:25] <Janux> Predius: no, it's not changing, any clue?
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> nickoli, get a card with Atheros chipset or Ornoco
[05:25] <jubei> why isnt /dev/input/event2 created on boot?
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> with prism
[05:25] <nickoli> nomasteryoda ahh oronocos are so much
[05:25] <Predius> Try clickin on the bottom right corner.
[05:25] <bhearsum> nickoli: they are good :)
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> yea
[05:25] <IIIEars> (makes note Atheros or Orinoco)
[05:25] <Predius> Just click there.
[05:25] <gbhat> zoinks!! gmane is free?
[05:25] <nickoli> bhearsum true
[05:25] <bhearsum> i have a dell truemobile 1150, orinoco gold chipset
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> I got my atheros for $10 us
[05:25] <bhearsum> external antenna connector
[05:25] <bhearsum> its lovely
[05:25] <nickrud> gbhat, :)
[05:25] <gbhat> it is cool!!
[05:25] <nickoli> nomasteryoda what brand has ateros in it
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> bhearsum, lol nic
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> e
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> the ATT 6700G
[05:26] <Janux> Predius: right and left click both don't work
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> is just one
[05:26] <Predius> ...
[05:26] <Predius> try getting 0.9.12
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> D-link has them too
[05:26] <Predius> and make make install
[05:26] <Predius> www.fluxbox.org
[05:26] <IIIEars> << lives in an apartment complex 'prolly filled with unsecured access points with linux is going to be feared - lol
[05:27] <nickoli> what who me
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> kan anyone say kismet, boys and girls?
[05:27] <HrdwrBoB> IIIEars: I live in an apartment building and my AP is unsecured
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:27] <HrdwrBoB> no-one else but me has ever connected to it though
[05:27] <nickoli> wep is to much work
[05:27] <IIIEars> << Erm - maybe i should the temptation
[05:27] <Ni7r0> hi I have just installed GCC-3.4 with kynaptic, but where is it located? i try <which gcc> but it can't find it, i must have it for installing vmware tools :'(
[05:27] <Janux> Predius: how do I check my fluxbox version?
[05:27] <IIIEars> *avoid
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> nickoli, for the security, wpa is the preferred opton... and lots of problems getting that working
[05:28] <Taggz> gbhat, whats was that command to edit the xorg.conf file?
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> wepkey can be cracked in seconds
[05:28] <Predius> The one they give is .11, or 10.
[05:28] <nickoli> nomasteryoda encryption is overated
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> yup
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> heck, the md5 was cracked
[05:28] <Predius> Just get the devel version which is very stable from the flux site.
[05:28] <K_Dallas> Janux, look in synaptic or apt-get, it should give you the installed version
[05:28] <nickoli> anybody ever use an edimax wifi adapter
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> eeeewwwww
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> hear that one sucks
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> with linux that is
[05:29] <nickoli> nomasteryoda its under 20
[05:29] <gbhat> Taggz, open a terminal and 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> yea
[05:29] <jubei> There is no event in my devfs for mouse on boot. Why is this? Why wond udev make one?
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> bargain
[05:29] <Taggz> gedit, thanks gbhat
[05:29] <nickoli> nomasteryoda yes im poor
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> nickoli, i understand
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> I dumpsterdive for my parts
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> really
[05:29] <Janux> ic ic...thank you very much
[05:30] <nickoli> nomasteryoda haha also im replacing my p4 so im short on money
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[05:30] <IIIEars> jubei - i have had that trouble on install also - used a kvm to switch away during install.
[05:30] <nickoli> nomasteryoda i broke the pins on it while swapping cases
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> yea, IRC you never know
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> ouch
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> way ouch
[05:30] <nickoli> nomasteryoda what about a Trendnet card
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> IIIEars, yes kvm must be switched to the system during the video detection...even on startup or it will have low resolution... ymmv
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> nickoli, looking
[05:31] <IIIEars> IWhat companies base their cards on Atheros?
[05:31] <nickoli> nomasteryoda kk
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> several
[05:31] <jubei> I am not using a kvm
[05:31] <jubei> so why dont I have one?
[05:32] <Janux> Predius: so only 0.9.12 supports resizing windows?
[05:32] <jubei> i want the node /dev/input/event2 for evdev
[05:32] <Predius> I guess so.
[05:32] <Predius> I'm running it and am resizing windows.
[05:32] <jubei> but i have to make it manually each time I boot
[05:32] <qqnluaq> still trying to figure out how to get my res up to 1280.  kubuntu seems to be stuck at 1024. i've modified xorg.conf appropiately, but no dice...
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> I just got a PCI card from newegg for 35... it has atheros chipset
[05:32] <jubei> what is the best way to make /dev/input/event2 on startup?
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> and it is a 108mb card
[05:32] <nickoli> nomasteryoda which one
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> just sec
[05:32] <jabra> can anyone help me setup cups I have been working on it for 2 day
[05:33] <nickoli> ahh no run cups
[05:33] <IIIEars> Wow - thats cool!
[05:33] <Janux> Predius, but I cannot apt-get it? then that means I cannot uninstall it later?
[05:33] <gbhat> wow gmane rocks
[05:33] <nickrud> qqnluaq, take a look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, it will have comments about your resolution, that may help
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> DLINK|DWL-G520 2.4G
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> that's a D-link
[05:33] <qqnluaq> oki doke nickrud
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> their PCMCIA model has it too
[05:33] <Predius> yeah.
[05:33] <jabra> pleaese I relaly need cups helpl
[05:33] <Predius> Janux, you just apt-get remove it later.
[05:34] <Predius> This install will just change the old files.
[05:34] <Predius> It will work as if apt-getted.
[05:34] <nickrud> jabra, I hate cups, but ask way :)
[05:34] <Janux> Predius, o...ic ic...is it in .gz package?
[05:34] <Predius> yeah
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> http://www.atheros.com/news/linux.html
[05:34] <jabra> nickrud: wat do you use instead?
[05:34] <jubei> Should I ask about my problem in #kernel? Where else can I ask questions about devfs and udev?
[05:35] <nickrud> jabra, I use cups
[05:35] <jabra> ok did you write docs or rember how you set it up?
[05:36] <nickrud> jabra, I've set up  cups for a half a dozen printers over the last few years, and actually do like it. It's just the last printer ....
[05:36] <Mestapheles> hi
[05:36] <ish>  /window close
[05:36] <ish> oops :)
[05:36] <jabra> nickrud: can I pm you?
[05:36] <Mestapheles> about a week ago there was someone here wanting to know how to do an upgrade from debian to hoary.   But when I applied all the settings and said Program will now reboot
[05:40] <tbasten> any dual monitor users
[05:40] <Veritas> it did
[05:40] <Veritas> But it says, "Error loading operating system"
[05:40] <nickoli> tbasten right here
[05:40] <dracflamloc> is there anyplace anjuta would save my settings except for in ~/.anjuta?
[05:40] <Veritas> What happened, how do I now install Ubuntu?
[05:40] <tbasten> nickoli, do u use dual head card ofr 2 single cards
[05:40] <nickoli> tbasten dual-head
[05:41] <tbasten> :'(
[05:41] <nickoli> tbasten y
[05:41] <tbasten> :S need help with dualing with 2 cards
[05:41] <nickoli> tbasten not too difficult
[05:41] <Veritas> Can someone PLEASE help me
[05:41] <nickoli> tbasten bout the same as doing a dual-head
[05:42] <IIIEars> Wireless is not only easier than stringing long runs of cables it is as fast and almost less expensive.
[05:42] <Janux> in synaptic, it shows that I have gcc4.0-base and gcc installed but when I do ./configure for fluxbox, it has no gcc, any hints?
[05:42] <Predius> Guys, g'night.
[05:42] <nickoli> k
[05:42] <Predius> School tommorow. >=)
[05:42] <Predius> >=(
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> have fun Predius
[05:43] <Predius|sleep> Amazing the amount of help someone can give in 4 hours in this channel.
[05:43] <IIIEars> not going to miss the snarl of cat5 one bit.
[05:43] <Predius|sleep> I feel like a school councelor.
[05:43] <Janux> in synaptic, it shows that I have gcc4.0-base and gcc installed but when I do ./configure for fluxbox, it has no gcc, any hints?
[05:43] <Predius|sleep> apt-get install build-utils
[05:44] <drcode> hi all
[05:44] <Janux> Predius|sleep, okay....
[05:44] <drcode> I hope nvidia work now
[05:44] <drcode> I Load module at /etc/modules
[05:44] <drcode> I Put nvidia
[05:44] <drcode> and did reboot it seems to wokr
[05:44] <tbasten> nickoli, ok, first of all i cant get my s3 card working on this kernel (2.6.10)
[05:45] <nickoli> tbasten what kind of cards are you using
[05:45] <drcode> any way IF I want to add hebrew support so I can right in hebrew at open office any idea?
[05:45] <Nalioth> howyd y'all
[05:45] <Nalioth> i just installed Tiger and hosed my yaboot.
[05:45] <tbasten> nickoli, main one is nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 and secondry is s3 trio64
[05:45] <drcode> I use nvdia 2 i
[05:45] <Nalioth> Fixed my yaboot, but hosed the part that says "Mac OSX"
[05:45] <drcode> it old p333
[05:46] <drcode> it seems to work quit well
[05:46] <Predius|sleep> nite
[05:46] <Nalioth> and fun, too
[05:46] <nickoli> tbasten s3 well then...
[05:46] <Veritas> Does linux support WPA:AES?
[05:46] <drcode> btw:if I Use p220 with 64mb for server mode is it ok/
[05:46] <Janux> Predius|sleep, thanks good night
[05:46] <Veritas> I'm ion the network config stage
[05:46] <tbasten> nickoli, ? sorry\
[05:46] <Predius|sleep> worked?
[05:46] <devnull> is there a way to still have gnomes features but a different window manager ?
[05:47] <nickoli> tbasten well im sorry to inform but, i have never stepped outside of nvidia
[05:47] <nickoli> tbasten s3 who makes that
[05:47] <Janux> Predius|sleep, no...haha...it can't find it
[05:47] <Veritas> No one ever answers me :(
[05:47] <Predius|sleep> apt-cache search builf
[05:47] <Predius|sleep> apt-cache search build
[05:47] <Eighth> i'm trying to install hoary and i just got a red screen w/ error: installation step failed: configure timezone
[05:47] <Eighth> wtf?
[05:48] <Predius|sleep> it does, Veritas
[05:48] <Veritas> It says enter the WEP key
[05:48] <Predius|sleep> bad cd, Eighth?
[05:48] <Veritas> and when I enter my WPA key it says failed
[05:48] <Eighth> negative
[05:49] <Eighth> md5sum'd all the way from the server to the disc
[05:49] <Quinn_Storm> Veritas: that might be because WPA and WEP aren't the same thing
[05:49] <Veritas> It says invalid
[05:49] <Veritas> because it doesn't fallow the WEP syntas
[05:49] <terranwannabe> anyone feel like fielding an ALSA question?
[05:49] <Veritas> syntax
[05:49] <Janux> Predius|sleep, did you mean buildtool?
[05:49] <Predius|sleep> yeah, probably
[05:49] <Predius|sleep> Veritas, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto
[05:50] <Predius|sleep> damnit guys, google a little, ;)
[05:50] <Predius|sleep> ok, sleep.
[05:50] <nickoli> google owns
[05:50] <drcode> how I put hebrew support in xfce?
[05:50] <Predius|sleep> googled?
[05:50] <drcode> k
[05:51] <drcode> btw two linux can talk betwwen them ?
[05:51] <drcode> with NFS or samaba
[05:51] <drcode> by default thay config to see each other
[05:51] <Predius|sleep> two linux NFS
[05:51] <jackmacokc> anyone in here setup vsftpd? i need some help getting it going
[05:51] <Predius|sleep> win linux samba
[05:52] <Predius|sleep> what, jackmacokc ?
[05:52] <jackmacokc> vsftpd..i need some help configuring it
[05:52] <Predius|sleep> it should work automatically from the reps
[05:52] <zaofreek> does anyone have a suggestion for decent DVD ripping in ogg theora?
[05:52] <Tsjoklat> jackmacokc you need to edit the vsftpd.conf in etc
[05:52] <jackmacokc> maybe for anonymous, but i dont want anonymous
[05:53] <jackmacokc> Tsjoklat, I did...I'm not sure how to add a user for it
[05:53] <Tsjoklat> jackmacokc, set anonymous to NO
[05:53] <Tsjoklat> local enabled yes
[05:53] <Predius|sleep> vsftpd.users
[05:53] <Tsjoklat> mask 22
[05:53] <jackmacokc> Tsjoklat, I did..so how do I add a user
[05:53] <jackmacokc> ah
[05:53] <rosh> I have the install-iso, and I am currently running linux with lilo, how do I boot to the iso without burning it?
[05:53] <jackmacokc> in /etc?
[05:53] <Predius|sleep> then add the user, should work
[05:53] <Tsjoklat> write/read yes
[05:53] <Predius|sleep> yeah
[05:53] <Tsjoklat> yeah in /etc/
[05:53] <jackmacokc> cool..i'll go look and brb
[05:53] <Predius|sleep> qemu., rosh?
[05:53] <Tsjoklat> I never had to add a user jackmacokc
[05:54] <rosh> Predius|sleep, qemu?
[05:54] <Predius|sleep> wan't to install from that, or try it?
[05:54] <jackmacokc> i dont see a vsftpd.users..do i create it
[05:54] <Tsjoklat> no
[05:54] <rosh> Predius|sleep, I do want to install it on the hard disc, not emulate
[05:54] <Tsjoklat> jackmacokc, I never had to do it
[05:54] <memepelle> hello!!!
[05:55] <memepelle> maybe someone can help me here
[05:55] <Tsjoklat> jackmacokc, pm me and I'll give you some settings
[05:55] <jackmacokc> i installed through apt...but i dont see /etc/vsftpd.users
[05:55] <nickoli> memepelle maybe
[05:55] <rosh> I just want to launch the installer from my current lilo instead of burning the disc
[05:55] <jackmacokc> ok thx
[05:56] <memepelle> i'm new in ubuntu, i used Debian and other distros
[05:56] <nickoli> memepelle continue
[05:56] <Predius|sleep> http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[05:56] <memepelle> the problem i have is that i can't listen my mp3 in my ubuntu system
[05:56] <Predius|sleep> try reading that, rosh
[05:56] <marc74> can anyone help me with jre install?
[05:56] <Predius|sleep> ...
[05:56] <Predius|sleep> did you read the guide?
[05:56] <memepelle> you can download it in sun.java.com
[05:56] <Predius|sleep> he has it
[05:57] <marc74> is that the best way?
[05:57] <marc74> i learn better "hands on"
[05:57] <nomasteryoda> how do I add fonts to Ubuntu??
[05:57] <memepelle> i read some tips in Google and i install some packages, like gstreamer-mp3 and others
[05:57] <rosh> Predius|sleep, thanks, I will read it
[05:57] <Predius|sleep> argh
[05:57] <Predius|sleep> night now.
[05:57] <nickoli> well i decided to risk buying a trendnet card
[05:57] <memepelle> but neither xmms and mplayer seem to work with them
[05:57] <Tsjoklat> memepelle, you got gstreamer-mad?
[05:58] <memepelle> yes
[05:58] <memepelle> nothing
[05:58] <zaofreek> memepelle, read http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[05:58] <marc74> ok i'm past alien, what next?
[05:58] <zaofreek> i think that's the proper link
[05:58] <marc74> anyone?
[05:58] <zaofreek> does your other sound work?
[05:58] <memepelle> i actually get gstremar-lame but nothing
[05:58] <nickoli> marc74 what are you doing
[05:58] <pixil9> !a guide Unofficial Ubuntu Guide - http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:58] <marc74> nickoli, trying to set up jre
[05:58] <nickoli> marc74 oh that i went through that
[05:58] <marc74> nickoli, for firefox
[05:59] <marc74> nickoli, help me
[05:59] <Nalioth> memepelle, read the restricted formats page mentioned
[05:59] <Nalioth> memepelle, it will fix you right up
[05:59] <nickoli> marc74 oh well sorry buddy cant help you, i just did it to run java apps on the desktop
[05:59] <memepelle> the strange thing is that wavs and other formats seems to work
[05:59] <marc74> somebody help me
[05:59] <memepelle> what's wrong marc74??
[05:59] <marc74> i rmp'd it and went through alien
[06:00] <Nalioth> marc74, always chancy
[06:00] <marc74> memepelle, how do i get firefox to recognize it?
[06:00] <pixil9> !a guide Unofficial Ubuntu Guide - http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:00] <pixil9> !a guide Unofficial Ubuntu Guide - http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:00] <memepelle> java??
[06:00] <zaofreek> Marble2, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[06:01] <pixil9> !! guide
[06:01] <uhelper> [1/1]  guide Unofficial Ubuntu Guide - http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:01] <memepelle> someone of latin america here??
[06:01] <marc74> i'm LOST
[06:01] <jabra> anyone have any idea of to fix "client-error-not-possible" with cups
[06:01] <memepelle> it would interesting to find someone of latin america
[06:01] <marc74> maybe someone can help me here
[06:01] <pixil9> !! guide jabra
[06:01] <uhelper> [1/1]  guide Unofficial Ubuntu Guide - http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:01] <pixil9> hmm
[06:01] <marc74> i just wanna get "java runtime environment" going
[06:02] <marc74> jre
[06:02] <zaofreek> i actually have a question about java as well
[06:02] <pixil9> !! guide pixil9
[06:02] <uhelper> [1/1]  guide Unofficial Ubuntu Guide - http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:02] <zaofreek> how do i add a folder to my java classpath?
[06:02] <bur[n] e1> nice :)  there's a bot for ubuntuguide finally
[06:02] <marc74> mkdir?
[06:02] <bur[n] e1> :)
[06:02] <nickoli> nomasteryoda thank you for your help, i have now found a card
[06:02] <pixil9> bur[n] e1, I dunno if i like this one
[06:03] <pixil9> I'm trying to find a good script for it
[06:03] <memepelle> i guess CLASSPATH=yourfolder but i'm not sure
[06:03] <marc74> i have serious problem and i'm looking for help
[06:03] <transgress> wow it's a good thing i have a cool boss
[06:03] <memepelle> whats's the problem
[06:03] <marc74> i follow the instructions and it don't work
[06:03] <transgress> because i so just fell asleep while working and he's just like "no problem"
[06:03] <Nalioth> memepelle, just wait a few minutes or go to #ubuntu-es
[06:03] <marc74> should i reformat and reinstall or something?
[06:03] <zaofreek> memepelle, doesn't CLASSPATH have to include all of them?
[06:04] <zaofreek> i haven't actually gotten that to work
[06:04] <pixil9> !a root Info on setting, changing, enabling or disabling root password - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#setchangeenablerootpassword
[06:04] <pixil9> !! root
[06:04] <uhelper> [1/1]  root Info on setting, changing, enabling or disabling root password - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#setchangeenablerootpassword
[06:04] <memepelle> all of what??
[06:04] <bob2> ew
[06:04] <marc74> i'm gonna destroy both of my computers haha
[06:04] <pixil9> Anyone know the name of the ?? bot script?
[06:04] <] BreliC[> dammit
[06:04] <pixil9> I don't like this !! one
[06:05] <] BreliC[> anyone know how to get rid of a < in a string?  It keeps giving me problems
[06:05] <bob2> please don't bring any more bots in here
[06:05] <] BreliC[> it's treating it as a reserved character
[06:05] <bob2> ] BreliC[: the tr tool can do that
[06:05] <pixil9> bob2, We can't run a helper bot????
[06:05] <bur[n] e1> !! RestrictedFormats
[06:05] <bur[n] e1> :)
[06:05] <memepelle> language??
[06:05] <] BreliC[> bob2, hmm, ok, thanks.
[06:05] <bur[n] e1> need that one
[06:05] <marc74> someone help me
[06:06] <marc74> plz
[06:06] <bob2> pixil9: there's already one
[06:06] <memepelle> guys, please help that dude,
[06:06] <marc74> i'm a noob
[06:06] <bob2> marc74: you haven't actually asked a question yet
[06:06] <memepelle> i tried buy he doesn't tell me what's the problem
[06:06] <marc74> bob2, what do i do after i used alien?
[06:06] <memepelle> i guess he haven't :)
[06:06] <Nalioth> marc74, please tell us the problem exactly in the order you stepped into it
[06:06] <bob2> marc74: ew, don't use alien
[06:07] <bob2> marc74: also, you still haven't told us what happened...
[06:07] <marc74> bob2, what should i do?
[06:07] <memepelle> i think that's he's the alien :)
[06:07] <marc74> bob2, i'm lost totatlly, give it to me from the start
[06:07] <] BreliC[> bob2, hehe, well, sometimes alien is the only solution (i.e my stupid printer drivers only come in rpm)
[06:07] <marc74> bob2, i have the file, but what do i do?
[06:07] <bob2> marc74: you're asking how to use alien?
[06:07] <bob2> marc74: what's your native language?
[06:08] <memepelle> alien *.rpm
[06:08] <marc74> bob2, no how do i get jre to work?
[06:08] <memepelle> sudo alien *.rpm
[06:08] <jabra> anyone know how to fix client-error-not-possible on cups?
[06:08] <helio7> googling debian source for gaim-otr (encryption plugin) I found this http://www.artfiles.org/ubuntu.com/archive/pool/universe/g/ which shows the index of /ubuntu.com/archive/pool/universe/g;  Is it logical to assume if I add /ubuntu.com/archive/pool/universe/g to my sources.list I'll be able to apt-get gaim-otr?
[06:08] <marc74> i'm past that, what next?
[06:08] <marc74> how do i get firefox to recoginze it?
[06:08] <bob2> helio7: no, that won't work
[06:08] <|QuaD-> marc74: why are you installing java with an rpm?
[06:08] <memepelle> you mean a plug-in for firefox
[06:08] <memepelle> java plug-in
[06:08] <marc74> i'm doing whatp people told me on here
[06:09] <bur[n] e1> gaim-otr == gaim-encryption?
[06:09] <marc74> what*
[06:09] <bob2> helio7: gaim-encryption is in hoary
[06:09] <helio7> bob2: and you use that?
[06:09] <marc74> i just want JRE to work
[06:09] <bob2> helio7: no, I don't use gaim at all
[06:09] <memepelle> guys, any good package to edit videos??
[06:09] <marc74> who can help me?
[06:09] <memepelle> ok
[06:09] <bob2> marc74: please
[06:09] <bob2> you're being very annoying
[06:09] <bob2> and inefficient
[06:09] <memepelle> i have done it, but in old mozilla
[06:09] <bur[n] e1> helio7: i use it
[06:10] <|QuaD-> marc74: sudo mv jre1.5.0_02/ /usr
[06:10] <nickrud> mark, did you do the make-jpkg method I told you about?
[06:10] <marc74> i have the file, what do i do next?
[06:10] <|QuaD-> plah
[06:10] <bob2> marc74: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[06:10] <bob2> marc74: follow those instructions
[06:10] <marc74> bob2, ok
[06:10] <|QuaD-> marc74: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[06:10] <memepelle> he wants to install a java plug-in in firefox
[06:10] <bob2> then why doesn't he or she say that?
[06:10] <pixil9> bob2, Which bot is it? and can I have access to add keys?
[06:10] <helio7> bur[n] e1: cool; I'm using it now... thanks;
[06:10] <bob2> and why does he or she keep avoiding answering questions?
[06:11] <memepelle> i don't know i assume that
[06:11] <DmD> is there a way to update xchat through the terminal?
[06:11] <fitheach> marc74, do yourself a favour and use the method which uses the package java-package ... works nicely.
[06:11] <bob2> DmD: you mean the package?
[06:11] <DmD> yeah
[06:11] <DmD> i have 2.4.1
[06:11] <nickrud> marc74, the method three on the page bob2 gave you
[06:11] <DmD> and 2.4.3 is the newest
[06:11] <marc74> fitheach, where is that?
[06:11] <Nalioth> DmD, doesnt apt-get work in a terminal?
[06:11] <memepelle> you know what, google it
[06:11] <marc74> fitheach, i searched the ubuntu package for it
[06:12] <DmD> Naliot: yes, but i'm not sure what the link iks
[06:12] <DmD> is*
[06:12] <memepelle> some people is getting tire of that
[06:12] <bob2> DmD: then wait until breezy comes out
[06:12] <DmD> breezy?
[06:12] <bob2> pixil9: do not /msg me
[06:12] <nickrud> marc74, one last time: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java method 3
[06:12] <bob2> pixil9: I have nothing to do with the silly bot at all
[06:12] <pixil9> !a java http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[06:13] <bob2> please stop being annoying
[06:13] <pixil9> !a jre http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[06:13] <fitheach> marc74, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java15 and there the second section titled "Installing Sun's Java on Hoary (expanding on Gabriel Bauman's comment from above)"
[06:13] <bob2> good lord
[06:13] <bob2> pixil9: enough
[06:13] <pixil9> I sit in here helping all day lol
[06:13] <memepelle> well, is java, or a java plug-in for firefox, make up your mind
[06:13] <bob2> pixil9: if you insist on hammering the bot, do it in /msg
[06:13] <pixil9> I'm adding keys so I can _help_ people
[06:13] <fitheach> marc74, you have to add multiverse oder universe in order to install java-package and fakeroot.
[06:13] <bob2> pixil9: then do it in /msg
[06:13] <pixil9> ok
[06:14] <Nalioth> Dmd would you not use apt-get to update the program?
[06:15] <zerokarmaleft> DmD, what do you need in xchat 2.4.3 that's not available in 2.4.1?
[06:15] <memepelle> first time use this shit and i'm loving ir
[06:15] <drgalaxy> I have been installing programs from universe.  How can I make the GNOME Applications menu show my new packages?
[06:15] <memepelle> it, sorry
[06:15] <jabra> win 11
[06:15] <jabra> oops
[06:15] <DmD> i don't know, i was just wondering if i should update it
[06:15] <zerokarmaleft> DmD, then you don't need to worry about updating it
[06:16] <DmD> alright, thanx :)
[06:16] <|QuaD-> one thing i wonder. most of the ubuntu developers are also debian developers. i wonder what os they are actually running
[06:16] <helio7> What are the best places to look when my system crashes for clues?  I haven't had the time to really troubleshoot this periodic system hang Mouse frozen/crash thing since I upgraded to Hoary; I need as many clues as possible to narrow it down
[06:16] <nickrud> drgalaxy, apt-get install menu (preferred for now) or google gnome-menu-editor
[06:16] <|QuaD-> helio7: first i would try to figure out if it is x crashing or your whole system
[06:16] <|QuaD-> and then take it from their
[06:16] <drgalaxy> nickrud: thanks! I had used menu before, didn't realize I had to install it
[06:16] <nickrud> drgalaxy, the programs you have installed will appear under a Debian menu entry if you install menu
[06:17] <drgalaxy> awesome, thanks nickrud
[06:17] <helio7> |QuaD-: and how would you ascertain that?  alt-cntrl F6 doesn't get me anything if that's telling...
[06:17] <nickrud> drgalaxy, I like questions I can answer :)
[06:18] <|QuaD-> helio7: that wouldn't work if x crashed, do you have another box?
[06:18] <Nalioth> Dmd if it's working , don't mess with it
[06:18] <memepelle> thanks guys
[06:18] <memepelle> I CAN PLAY MP3 NOW
[06:18] <helio7> |QuaD-: yes I have a laptop that runs hoary flawlessly
[06:19] <|QuaD-> helio7: you can try sshing into it. if it ssh's in, it is x crashing not your whole system
[06:19] <helio7> |QuaD-: ok thanks;
[06:19] <memepelle> someone here uses a USB Wireless card device
[06:20] <memepelle> i need some help with that
[06:20] <|QuaD-> if it isn't ssh'ing in, you can try saving logs like dmesg, messages, etc to a file and view those after a crash
[06:22] <helio7> |QuaD-: just typing dmesg after a crash will work right?
[06:23] <|QuaD-> helio7: no... dmesg is a log file (like a txt file), you need to always be saving the contents of that to another file (like tail -f dmesg > somelog.txt) because on reboot, dmesg is cleard (iirc)
[06:23] <TheKark> ugh, xboxs are annoying
[06:24] <|QuaD-> TheKark: you running linux on it?
[06:24] <TheKark> i would, i just need to fix one...
[06:24] <TheKark> gentoox wosn
[06:24] <TheKark> owns
[06:24] <|QuaD-> helio7: its a pain, but if your comp is crashing alot, it might be worth it until you figure it out
[06:25] <|QuaD-> helio7: you might also want to try to reproduce the crash, see why it is happening
[06:25] <TheKark> hmm, should I install hoary tonight on my old machine?
[06:25] <|QuaD-> TheKark: when you say old, how old
[06:26] <|QuaD-> TheKark: i bet you could install it in <30 minutes
[06:26] <helio7> |QuaD-: can I set some cronjob to run "tail -f dmesg > somelog.txt" ?
[06:26] <TheKark> my 486 in my closet
[06:26] <TheKark> lol
[06:26] <TheKark> p3 600 mhz, 256 ram
[06:27] <|QuaD-> helio7: that would show what happened right before the crash though, so you would want to run that right after you boot up so its always saving the log
[06:27] <nickrud> TheKark, I run it on a p2 466 256, go for it
[06:27] <|QuaD-> TheKark: yeah, that should be fine
[06:27] <|QuaD-> how do you guys think ubuntu will run on a p2 400 with 64 mb ram?
[06:27] <TheKark> i know in warty it worked great, until I installed on my main machine
[06:28] <helio7> |QuaD-: how often do you think I should run this dmesg > log job to adequately show what was happening before the crash?
[06:29] <nickrud> helio7, the dmsg file is created at boot, an not altered, so only once at each boot is enough
[06:29] <|QuaD-> helio7: you need to run it all the time.... because you want it running when it crashes
[06:29] <|QuaD-> nickrud: what log file am i thinking of then?
[06:29] <nickrud> /var/log/messages ?
[06:30] <|QuaD-> nickrud: dmesg changes after boot
[06:30] <|QuaD-> i am looking right now
[06:30] <sig> tail -f /var/log/messages
[06:30] <TheKark> hmm, this sucks... I have to reboot
[06:30] <|QuaD-> ok messages :)
[06:30] <TheKark> brb
[06:30] <|QuaD-> that was the other one i said to monitor
[06:30] <nickrud> lol
[06:32] <nickrud> |QuaD-, sorry about laughing, but I've sucked today at helping, so I needed the relief :)
[06:33] <Censorydep> anyone feel like helping me troubleshoot apm not starting?
[06:33] <|QuaD-> nickrud: i have been up for 20 hours, doing work all day, i am shot, and i wanna get a rough draft of my undergraduate thesis to my advisor tomorrow..... so basically i am majorly sucking
[06:33] <nickrud> |QuaD-, as they say, life sucks
[06:34] <nickrud> what's the thesis?
[06:34] <jubei> Why does quake run glitchy when I have other tasks idling?
[06:34] <|QuaD-> nickrud: want the topic?
[06:34] <nickrud> |QuaD-, yeah, I am interested
[06:35] <nickrud> I like the people here, you're all doing interesting thins
[06:35] <amonkey> bawls = a good thing at this point
[06:35] <DmD> i got a Linux newb question..i'm trying to install a program in a tar.gz archieve and i've already extracted it to my desktop, but when i do make isntall it says No Rule to make install -- Stop
[06:36] <DmD> the prorgam is torsmo
[06:36] <nickrud> DmD, you must do ./configure && make before make install, and don't do make install, use checkinstall
[06:37] <|QuaD-> nickrud: i developed a testbed to implement Acoustic Location Detection by Belief Propogation. basically it is a fancy way of saying i built a system that accurately detects locations using acousic sound, and it is EXTREMELY Efficient interms of battery life, hardware costs (accuracy of sensors isn't that important). basically it blows the other similar type systems away. rarely reports false errors
[06:37] <jubei> what does make checkinstall do?
[06:37] <|QuaD-> realy scalable, decentralized, etc etc
[06:37] <DmD> configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[06:37] <DmD> after i typed that cmd
[06:37] <helio7> so to get this straight, good things to monitor for crash data are: Once on bootup capture dmesg, then periodically (like how often?) capture "/var/log/messages"? correct?
[06:37] <nickrud> |QuaD-, ah, gunshot detectors
[06:38] <|QuaD-> nickrud: it doesn't have to use acoustic sound, thats just what we chose to use, but it will work with anything that we can get a sensor for (or build a sensor for)
[06:38] <DmD> then i tried checkinstall - command not found
[06:38] <|QuaD-> like ultrasound, light, rf, ir (if ir strength is measureable, not sure)
[06:38] <tandy> does anyone know if the latest ubuntu release cds have been shipped yet?
[06:39] <nickrud> |QuaD-, actually I understand that, my professional background is in instrumentation, and I can think of a lot of applications
[06:39] <Censorydep> |QuaD-: not to but in, but could you use 802.11 signals to do location?
[06:39] <nickrud> DmD, you need to apt-get get it
[06:39] <Censorydep> it would make laptop hide and seek a lot of fun...
[06:39] <|QuaD-> Censorydep: haha, i guess you could, its just an rf signal
[06:40] <|QuaD-> nickrud: yeah, its pretty cool, it helped when on job interviews
[06:40] <nickrud> |QuaD-, I just want to know what I believe has to do with it :)
[06:40] <Censorydep> |QuaD-: nice, not that I have the experience, but something like that sounds like it would be fun to implement
[06:40] <|QuaD-> nickrud: what you believe?
[06:41] <nickrud> |QuaD-, not much, anymore
[06:41] <DmD> ok i installed checkinstall
[06:41] <DmD> and i cd into the dir
[06:41] <DmD> then checkinstall and i got this
[06:41] <DmD> ****  Installation failed. Aborting package creation.
[06:41] <DmD> Cleaning up...OK
[06:41] <DmD> Bye.
[06:41] <DmD> sry abou the flood ;x
[06:41] <|QuaD-> Censorydep: its a bitch to implement, cuz of the efficiency and cost. and syncing everything up, etc
[06:42] <nickrud> DmD, the basic routine is ./configure (this is where the intended program looks around, and figures out what it needs to
[06:42] <nickrud> compile.
[06:42] <DmD> configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[06:42] <DmD> hmm
[06:42] <crimsun> install build-essential
[06:42] <crimsun> and skip checkinstall
[06:42] <|QuaD-> Censorydep: and i am programming computers the size of a quarter, and the only output they really have is via led or RF or i can connect it to a base station and send messages like that throguh uart. its hard to test :(
[06:43] <Fasc> My left foot has fallen asleep, while the right is tapping to unheard tune. My feet never seem to be fully functional first thing in the morning.
[06:43] <nickrud> crimsun, I've been told that checkinstall is useful, am I misinformed?
[06:43] <crimsun> nickrud: it's useful, but never to make proper Debian packages.
[06:44] <Censorydep> |QuaD-: sorry to hear it is so difficult to work with.  Good luck with your thesis!
[06:44] <nickrud> crimsun, that I've never believed
[06:44] <nickrud> debian packaging, I dreamed about it once, but woke up.
[06:45] <crimsun> it's not difficult, particularly with cdbs nowadays
[06:45] <|QuaD-> Censorydep, nickrud: bascially, i was cheap labor last summer, free labor this school year, so my profs like that part of it, i basically did the easy/tedious stuff, and now, they can pay a phd candidate to do the more hardcore research and development of the system
[06:45] <|QuaD-> my thesis is basically worthless
[06:45] <crimsun> a thesis is never worthless
[06:45] <Censorydep> nor is the experience
[06:46] <nickrud> yeah, I've seen a lot of packages change over to cdbs over the last couple of years, but still, I will find other ways to contribute
[06:46] <|QuaD-> crimsun: its not worthless, i learned a lot, and i did a lot of good research and development, but the document itself really isn't that important, and doesn't really hold that much value
[06:46] <Fasc> QuaD, surely if you conducted the thesis under a university institute, the work cannot be taken over without consent of the original author?
[06:46] <Nalioth> nickrud, checkinstall is da bomb!
[06:46] <crimsun> |QuaD-: the document itself isn't _that_ crucial, the experience is
[06:46] <nickrud> |QuaD-, welcome to the adult world
[06:47] <|QuaD-> Fasc: taken over? i don't really own any rights. when you do research for a university/college (in america atleast) they make you sign something that basically says they own the work
[06:47] <crimsun> I never had to sign something like that
[06:48] <|QuaD-> crimsun: i didn't have to for my thesis project, but when i started and they paid me i did
[06:48] <Fasc> Must be different up here in sunny Scotland then; you have to sign saying its your work, and that any false information etc represented in the work is yours, and doesnt not represent that of the university.
[06:48] <|QuaD-> and plus, the funding for all the equipment is through grants from nsf, navy, etc, so they have stipulations also
[06:48] <crimsun> interesting, |QuaD-
[06:48] <Nalioth> later, i'm gonna find out if my homemake yaboot.conf works...
[06:48] <nickrud> Fasc, here the prof's can patent/sell their work, so they want the rights
[06:48] <Nalioth> later is now
[06:49] <crimsun> yeah, ours was through dod
[06:49] <Nalioth> bye
[06:49] <|QuaD-> nickrud: do they get 100% of the rights? or is it 60/40
[06:49] <Fasc> Hah, I dont think I would much like to be in your country, anyway. ;)
[06:49] <nickrud> |QuaD-, they sign contracts too
[06:49] <|QuaD-> at my school professors get either 60% or 40% of the rights to patent
[06:49] <Nalioth> nickrud, checkinstall is great, keeps your system tidy (deb install as opposed to "make install"
[06:50] <nickrud> Nalioth, I can't tab complete your name:) about the only thing I compile these days are gnome, and I use jhbuild for the cvs
[06:50] <Fasc> Only just recently ordered my copies of Ubuntu; on Slackware at the moment, but word on the grepvine is that its going down the pan soon, so I thought ubuntu would be a nice change of scenery for me to jump ship.
[06:50] <crimsun> that's because he parted, nickrud
[06:50] <|QuaD-> basically what i am doing is great for research in wireless adhoc networks. have a feeling i left a great groundwork for future research and development, but its not something that wouldn't be easy to duplicate
[06:51] <nickrud> missed it :)
[06:51] <Censorydep> anyone want to help me troubleshoot apm?
[06:52] <Fasc> Besides, who could resist a name like Breezy Badger? ;)
[06:52] <borgista> a question: I ran 'ndiswrapper -m' w/a bad driver...and now i want to do undo that action. how would i?
[06:53] <borgista> i was following the wiki for NdisWrapper
[06:53] <Eighth> when I install hoary from cd (md5 verified), my machine locks up at the initial boot after install
[06:53] <crimsun> Censorydep: what exactly?
[06:53] <Eighth> saying something about loading GRUB, please wait
[06:53] <Censorydep> crimsun, it is in my /etc/modules and acpi has been removed from the system, but it still won't start.
[06:54] <Censorydep> crimsun, at the suggestion of someone on here about 16 hours ago I tried >sudo modprobe apm
[06:54] <Eighth> how can i make my system boot?
[06:55] <Censorydep> crimsun, I get the following error: FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): No such device
[06:55] <zerokarmaleft> Eighth, that sounds like grub wasn't successful installing itself on to the MBR
[06:55] <nickrud> Eighth, did you md5sum the iso you downloaded, or the cd itself?
[06:55] <Eighth> well, the third time i installed it (yesterday), i booted into knoppix after installing and /boot did not exist
[06:55] <borgista> i want to undo 'ndiswrapper -m' since i plan to use another driver, any ideas?
[06:55] <Eighth> this time, i set it as a different partition
[06:56] <Eighth> and i verified the download and burn
[06:56] <crimsun> Censorydep: hmm, what was the intent?
[06:56] <crimsun> (and what hardware)
[06:57] <Censorydep> crimsun, of the modprobe, or in general? and Dell Inspiron 3700
[06:57] <AvvY> ...
[06:57] <nickrud> Eighth, I've been told that md5sum /dev/cdrom is the ultimate test of your burn?
[06:57] <eggy> p;o;
[06:57] <crimsun> Censorydep: of replacing acpi with apm, but you answered my question indirectly
[06:58] <Eighth> nickrud, i'm pretty sure that's what k3b does when it verifies data
[06:58] <tom_neo> 1.32, 1.87, 2.14 <-- much?
[06:58] <Censorydep> crimsun, acpi wasn't performing quite right, and I had apm working with Warty, so I thought I would go back to it
[06:58] <nickrud> Eighth, was wondering if you burned in windows, so I'll just shut up
[06:59] <thr1ce> what does ubuntu require to install k3b; a bunch of KDE stuff?
[06:59] <tom_neo> KKKKKKKKK3b
[06:59] <tom_neo> no wonder?
[06:59] <thr1ce> well, I mean amarok takes like 10 packs
[06:59] <thr1ce> nothing on gnome can even compare
[06:59] <AvvY> i think its dodgy that certain programs need either gnome or kde to run. shouldnt programs be universal?
[07:00] <Eighth> so do you have any ideas?\
[07:00] <nickrud> thr1ce, try installing evoution under kubuntu, and you'll change your tune :)
[07:00] <thr1ce> not when they're built off gnome / kde libs
[07:00] <tom_neo> AvvY: maybe but every application would be 10 times bigger
[07:00] <crimsun> Censorydep: would you enumerate the issues with acpi?
[07:00] <thr1ce> nickrud: nah, not nearly as bad
[07:00] <AvvY> tom_neo: really? i dont see why. as it is, most linux progs seem to really small compared to win versions
[07:00] <Veritas> Ack. I just finished installing ubuntu
[07:00] <Eighth> i read that ubuntu's installer sometimes doesn't make partitions right and that you have to make them manually (fdisk, cfdisk, etc) and then assign them to mount points during install
[07:00] <Veritas> and when I launched it said
[07:01] <Veritas> veritas@ubuntu:~$
[07:01] <Eighth> but how do i make them manually when my box doesn't boot?
[07:01] <tom_neo> AvvY: because they have dependencies
[07:01] <Veritas> you have 1 new message
[07:01] <Eighth> i've tried it from livecds but they won't write to the drives
[07:01] <nickrud> Eighth, that's the only way I've done an ubuntu install, to preserve old debian installs, so  maybe ....
[07:01] <tom_neo> Eighth: you can enable write access in live cds
[07:01] <AvvY> tom_neo: oh ok. i still think its kinda stupid. i mean, linux is great, but i see so many flaws in its logic and its opperations
[07:01] <fasc> Hmm. Anyway, later all.
[07:01] <thr1ce> nickrud: only 4 libs or so, plus gal, is it?
[07:02] <tom_neo> well... i'm busy -/
[07:02] <Veritas> What do I do to finalize and boot?
[07:02] <nickrud> thr1ce, I figure 20 - 25 not installed under kubuntuy
[07:02] <Censorydep> crimsun, coming back from lid suspend would come back, then suspend again, and require a touch of the power button to bring back again.
[07:02] <thr1ce> nickrud: and, it seems as though the breezy guys haven't gotten evolution down :(
[07:03] <Censorydep> and, my PCMCIA wireless card wouldn't come back up without a reboot
[07:03] <thr1ce> nickrud: ooh...right; I was compiling on my slack kde box :)
[07:03] <Veritas> What's the command to boot into Ubuntu once I get to the command prompt?
[07:03] <crimsun> thr1ce: they're all busy at UdU :)
[07:03] <Veritas> veritas@ubuntu:~$ _
[07:03] <nickrud> thr1ce, yeah, I was wondering how that was going, i figured breezy was worth a laugh right now :)
[07:03] <thr1ce> I thought that was over soon?
[07:03] <pixil9> ?? nvidia
[07:03] <uhelper> nvidia: To install the nvidia binary video driver for xorg go here: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[07:04] <thr1ce> nickrud: oh no; I use kmail anyways; but yeah, it ran decent
[07:04] <thr1ce> I could tell it wasn't being focused on
[07:04] <AvvY> how long does it usually take to ship ubuntu cds?
[07:04] <crimsun> thr1ce: see all these @intern146.lnk.telstra.net? :)
[07:04] <nickrud> thr1ce, it is focused on, just not from the end users perspective. Ever do software development?
[07:05] <thr1ce> nickrud: no, not at all; I meant that the focus wasn't really on progressing the OS yet...it seems as though decisions and goals still must be made and set
[07:05] <nickrud> 'till it's ready'
[07:06] <thr1ce> yeah yeah
[07:06] <thr1ce> :)
[07:06] <Veritas> How do I log onto root?
[07:06] <Veritas> So I can boot...
[07:06] <thr1ce> personally, I think software updates, security or not, are always important
[07:06] <nickrud> and I am awed by the 'release often' and get flamed mentality today
[07:06] <Veritas> Seriously, can someone PLEASE help me.
[07:07] <drcode> any one know how I can install nvidia?
[07:07] <drcode> so it will be 3d and so?
[07:07] <pixil9> ??faq veritas root
[07:07] <uhelper> veritas: (root) To set change or enable your root password - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#setchangeenablerootpassword
[07:07] <drcode> is there step by step?
[07:07] <nickrud> Veritas, use sudo whenever you can, and where you can't, use sudo -i
[07:07] <Veritas> I jsut finisihed my installation
[07:07] <battledragun> ok, finally got it installed and working somewhat, but GDM isn't setup right, is there a utilitiy to automattically setup gdm for hoary?
[07:07] <tom_neo> bye
[07:07] <crimsun> drcode: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:07] <Veritas> and it loaded for the first time and said veritas@ubuntu:~$
[07:07] <Veritas> you have one new message
[07:08] <Veritas> than a command prompt came up
[07:08] <drcode> thanx
[07:08] <TechLord> is there any route planning software for linux?
[07:08] <jabra> anyone know how to fix Unable to connect to IPP host: Success with cups?
[07:08] <crimsun> Censorydep: please paste the output of lsmod onto http://pastebin.com
[07:09] <indigirl1>   how do i convert *.wma to *.mp3 or *.ogg ?
[07:10] <drcode> btw:can I tell apt-get not to check new wine ver in some site?
[07:10] <crimsun> indigirl1: vlc, mplayer, kaffeine
[07:10] <Censorydep> crimsun, done
[07:12] <Kaiser_Karl> how can you search synaptic for source packages only?
[07:14] <crimsun> Censorydep: ok, presuming you have apmd installed, correct?
[07:14] <aspro> eek!
[07:14] <aspro> sound problems!
[07:15] <thr1ce> kopete in gnome?  wow
[07:15] <aspro> I tried to play a avi file in totem, it crashed for some reason, but now, I get mad fuzz coming through the speakers
[07:15] <DmD> hi, i'm trying to setup a webserver and the tut i'm following says to type mysqladmin -u root -p password "new password here" and it says mysqladmin command not found...i did try to apt-get mysqladmin but couldn't find it as well
[07:15] <Quinn_Storm> aspro: try killall esd
[07:16] <DmD> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25722.html
[07:16] <thr1ce> do you  have mysql installed?
[07:16] <DmD> that's where it is
[07:16] <aspro> there is still sound coming through, as if I turn the speakers off (but leave the sub) I can here the bass line, but the speakers only faintly have the music compared to the fuzz
[07:16] <DmD> i think so
[07:16] <aspro> I have restarted the computer
[07:16] <aspro> to no avail
[07:16] <DmD> aspro, my old soundcard did the same thing
[07:16] <aspro> the speakers are fine, my ipod plays perfectly
[07:16] <thr1ce> aspro: run alsamixer, and turn down PCM to about 75%
[07:16] <DmD> there's like static right?
[07:16] <nickrud> aspro, you need to unplug, been there :)
[07:16] <indigirl1> aspro, lower the volume on master and pcm levels to 75 on each in alsamixer
[07:17] <aspro> okay
[07:17] <DmD> a friend suggested to get a new soundcard, and all the fuzz is gone
[07:17] <thr1ce> master can stay up; lower PCM
[07:17] <jabra> anyone wanta help with a problem with cups
[07:17] <indigirl1> jabra, ask
[07:18] <DmD> what's the package name for mysql?
[07:18] <jabra> any idea how to fix Unable to connect to IPP host: Success with cups
[07:18] <DmD> cus i tried apt-get mysql and it didn't install
[07:18] <thr1ce> search in synaptic
[07:18] <indigirl1> DmD, apt-cache search mysql
[07:18] <Censorydep> crimsun, yes
[07:18] <aspro> okay, nothing happened, i lowered everything to 75 or less
[07:18] <jabra> indigirl1: that is wat I get in the log file
[07:18] <crimsun> DmD: mysql-server
[07:18] <thr1ce> ok; save it and exit
[07:19] <jabra> indigirl1: both windows and linux clients can connect to it
[07:19] <thr1ce> hm...try another sound daemon in xmms or something, to see if that could be the problem
[07:19] <thr1ce> like switch to OSS, alsa, esound, etc.
[07:19] <indigirl1> crimsun, in mplayer man page i don't see how to convert audio formats
[07:19] <pepperpot> Do I need to do anything special to get ubuntu to recognize 1gig RAM? "top" says I have 906656k
[07:19] <DmD> usermin-mysql - A mysql module for the usermin web-based administration tool
[07:19] <DmD> should i try installing that for a webserver?
[07:19] <aspro> it happens while linux is on, ive switched gstreamer around but the static is always going
[07:21] <indigirl1> pepperpot, it won't show exactly 100000k
[07:21] <nickrud> ?? root
[07:21] <uhelper> root: To set change or enable your root password - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#setchangeenablerootpassword
[07:21] <thr1ce> Mem:    904504k total,   258000k used,   646504k free,    47704k buffers
[07:21] <DmD> sudo apt-get mysql-server
[07:21] <DmD> E: Invalid operation mysql-server
[07:21] <DmD> what's that all about?
[07:21] <crimsun> DmD: install it
[07:21] <nickrud> ??faq pixil9 root
[07:21] <uhelper> pixil9: (root) To set change or enable your root password - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#setchangeenablerootpassword
[07:21] <pixil9> sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[07:22] <thr1ce> sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[07:22] <indigirl1> DmD, apt-get *install*
[07:22] <DmD> ah there
[07:22] <DmD> lol
[07:22] <indigirl1> DmD, too many answers? ;)
[07:22] <DmD> heh no
[07:22] <DmD> i want to learn Linux
[07:22] <DmD> i'm determined to :D
[07:23] <DmD> i'm setting up a webserver for a friend to leech off of me
[07:23] <Veritas> after I'm logged into root
[07:23] <Veritas> what is the command to boot into the OS?
[07:23] <DmD> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[07:23] <DmD> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[07:23] <DmD> Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[07:23] <indigirl1> DmD, *web*server may not be best solution
[07:23] <DmD> i entered the password
[07:23] <DmD> oh
[07:24] <aspro> dang, this sucks
[07:24] <indigirl1> DmD, mysql needs to be running
[07:24] <DmD> web server is http, right?
[07:24] <indigirl1> DmD, yes http.
[07:24] <Censorydep> DmD, yes
[07:24] <DmD> damnit
[07:25] <DmD> i went through all fo this
[07:25] <DmD> of*
[07:25] <DmD> haha
[07:25] <DmD> ;x
[07:25] <indigirl1> DmD, use ftp or nfs, samba, etc
[07:25] <marc74> ok no more fucking with the shell
[07:25] <marc74> time to chat
[07:25] <TheKark> anyone know what an error 15 is in grub?
[07:25] <crimsun> Censorydep: ok, just to double-check: you booted using apm=on ?
[07:25] <marc74> yeah right
[07:25] <marc74> i can't give up
[07:25] <DmD> alright i just installed Samba
[07:26] <crimsun> Censorydep: (i.e., it's in your /boot/grub/menu.lst, and you've blacklisted shpchp and pciehp)
[07:26] <DmD> * Starting Samba daemons..
[07:26] <Censorydep> crimsun, # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=normal apm=on
[07:26] <DmD> so does that mean it's running?
[07:26] <Censorydep> and yes, those are blacklisted
[07:26] <indigirl1> DmD, yes
[07:26] <marc74> i'm addcited to computes
[07:26] <marc74> computers*
[07:26] <DmD> alright
[07:26] <crimsun> Censorydep: ok, and you ran update-grub after editing menu.lst?
[07:26] <DmD> so i need to add a user now then
[07:26] <Veritas> Chillins
[07:26] <Veritas> LISTEN UP.
[07:27] <Veritas> I just finished installation
[07:27] <Censorydep> crimsun, I think so, but I can run it again
[07:27] <Veritas> And now, it said to remove the CD and boot from the harddrive
[07:27] <indigirl1> DmD, or just point to your folder maybe
[07:27] <Veritas> So, now I'm there... and I'm logged into root
[07:27] <DmD> the folder is mounted on an ntfs partition that can't write, but it can read...can he still download files from me?
[07:27] <Censorydep> Veritas, I think you just reboot *shrug* dunno.  Did you try typing "help"?
[07:28] <indigirl1> DmD, yes
[07:28] <Veritas> Yeah. Help jsut gave a big command prompt of like 910 commands
[07:28] <DmD> alright, i added his account to my userlist
[07:28] <DmD> so what's next to setup the fpt?
[07:28] <DmD> ftp even
[07:28] <Censorydep> Veritas, and did you try rebooting?
[07:29] <Veritas> Yes.
[07:29] <indigirl1> DmD, just choose one, not all
[07:29] <Veritas> I'm at the same place
[07:29] <Veritas> It says
[07:29] <indigirl1> DmD, ftp may be easier to setup than samba
[07:29] <Veritas> after I log into my username
[07:29] <marc74> can anyone give me direct answer of what i have do do after i decompress a file and install it,  i.e. jde
[07:29] <Censorydep> crimsun, once I update grub, do I need to reboot?
[07:29] <DmD> hmm
[07:29] <Veritas> vertias~ubuntu:~
[07:29] <Veritas> veritas@ubuntu:~ _
[07:29] <DmD> so apt-cache search ftp then or?
[07:29] <Veritas> you have 1 new mail message
[07:29] <indigirl1> marc74, j*r*e?
[07:30] <indigirl1> DmD, yes, or ftpd
[07:30] <marc74> indigirl1, java runtime environment
[07:30] <indigirl1> DmD, for daemon
[07:30] <DmD> alright
[07:30] <Censorydep> Vieritas, ummm dude, Linux is running...
[07:30] <DmD> ok ftpd is installed
[07:30] <Veritas> alright, well how do I get into the OS then
[07:31] <marc74> hold on, i'm gonna stick my foot in my asss
[07:31] <marc74> ass*
[07:31] <Veritas> I'm just at a command prompt
[07:31] <nickrud> Veritas, type 'whoami'
[07:31] <Veritas> root
[07:31] <indigirl1> DmD, try to login on your machine eg, ftp <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:31] <Censorydep> Veritas, you are *IN* the OS, not sure what you were looking for...
[07:32] <indigirl1> DmD, user: anonymous, password<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:32] <nickrud> Veritas, did you do a server install (bear with me, I'm trying to catch up with you)
[07:32] <Veritas> Yes, I did.
[07:32] <Censorydep> Veritas, Linux is a command prompt OS
[07:32] <Echylo> btw what Veritas is saying, that "1 new mail message", how do you check that?
[07:32] <Censorydep> Echylo, >mail
[07:32] <Echylo> ok :)
[07:32] <Censorydep> =)
[07:32] <Echylo> thx
[07:32] <Censorydep> np
[07:32] <Veritas> I'm not in the OS
[07:32] <marc74> don't mind me
[07:33] <crimsun> Censorydep: yes
[07:33] <Veritas> I'm in a command prompt..
[07:33] <Veritas> Like, THAT'S ALL
[07:33] <Censorydep> Veritas, if you can type the command "whoami" and have it give you an anwer, you are IN THE OS.
[07:33] <Veritas> I've used Redhat before... I know what Linux is like
[07:33] <Censorydep> yes, a command prompt is ALL
[07:33] <marc74> i'm new at linux and getting pissed
[07:33] <Censorydep> Ummm, I think you are thinking of XWindows, which is an application that runs on Linux, it is not the OS
[07:33] <jabra> any idea how to fix Unable to connect to IPP host: Success with cups
[07:34] <Censorydep> crimsun, back in a sec, thanks!
[07:34] <Veritas> Censory: .. Quick being stupid, I'm trying to get this to work. You're not being funny.
[07:34] <marc74> i'm sure there is some logic behind it
[07:34] <DmD> hm, it just keeps loading
[07:34] <marc74> am i right?
[07:34] <DmD> but nothing happens
[07:35] <Agrajag> potkettleblack
[07:35] <nickrud> Veritas, did you do a server install?
[07:35] <Veritas> Yes Nick
[07:35] <Censorydep> Veritas, if you installed a server version of Ubuntu, you probably did not install XWindows, so a command prompt is all you get...
[07:35] <Agrajag> Veritas: then you did not install a graphical server
[07:35] <indigirl1> crimsun, in mplayer man page i don't see how to convert audio formats
[07:35] <marc74> what logic should i use?
[07:35] <Veritas> Ugh.
[07:35] <indigirl1> marc74, sarcasm?
[07:35] <Veritas> Well, is there a way to change my installation?
[07:36] <brenton> has anyone here installed OOo2 Base??
[07:36] <marc74> indigirl1, no
[07:36] <nickrud> Veritas, apt-get install x-window-system
[07:36] <marc74> indigirl1, i just wanna learn it
[07:36] <Veritas> http://www.theopencd.org/ubuntu/img/ubuntu1.png
[07:36] <nickrud> that'll get you the basics
[07:36] <indigirl1> marc74, what is your question?
[07:36] <crimsun> indigirl1: search for "oac"
[07:36] <nickrud> then apt-get install fluxbox or ubuntu-desktop or whatever
[07:36] <marc74> indigirl1,same thing as before
[07:36] <DmD> i tried to login -- ftp://anonymous:test<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but it didn't work
[07:37] <marc74> indigirl1, but i rpm'd it and ran alein
[07:37] <Veritas> Nick... You lost me
[07:37] <mojo> howdy folks!  i was wondering... what command or tools can i use to completely copy a partition from one hdd to another?  I have this spiffy 80Gb drive that I just got and want to move some stuff from a 30Gb drive over to it.  Any suggestions?
[07:37] <marc74> indigirl1, what do i do next?
[07:37] <brenton> mojo, i once used a program called partimage... it worked nicely
[07:38] <mojo> partimage?  okay lemme see if it's on the repositories...
[07:38] <marc74> how do i set it up?
[07:39] <DmD> how do i set ftpd up ?
[07:39] <indigirl1> marc74, one sec
[07:39] <marc74> how do i get firefox to work for java?
[07:39] <marc74> indigirl1, ok
[07:39] <DmD> www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:39] <Echylo> http://www.ubuntuguide.org marc74
[07:39] <brenton> mojo, get a burn an image of systemrescueCD or ultimatebootCD
[07:39] <indigirl1> DmD, /etc/init.d/ftpd start
[07:39] <indigirl1> DmD, then attempt to connect on your local machine first
[07:39] <DmD> /etc/init.d/ftpd: No such file or directory
[07:39] <marc74> Echylo, seriously that will help me?
[07:40] <Censorydep> crimsun, no luck :/
[07:40] <Echylo> marc74, with a little sarcasm, everything will help you
[07:40] <Censorydep> DmD, is ftpd installed?
[07:40] <Echylo> btw anyone knows an alternative for pcdj , so a mix program on linux?
[07:40] <crimsun> Censorydep: where is it bombing?
[07:40] <fulldisclosure> :/
[07:40] <DmD> apt-get install ftpd
[07:40] <DmD> Reading package lists... Done
[07:40] <DmD> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:40] <DmD> ftpd is already the newest version
[07:40] <marc74> Echylo, sacrcasm bad truth good
[07:41] <indigirl1> DmD, ftp <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:41] <marc74> impatience = a killer
[07:41] <DmD> i just tried, it keeps loading but nothing happens...
[07:41] <indigirl1> marc74, searching ubuntu.org or google will probably help you faster than me
[07:41] <DmD> ftp://anonymous:test<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:41] <marc74> maybe i should reformat and reinstall
[07:41] <Censorydep> crimsun, not sure, is there a log for that I can check?
[07:41] <indigirl1> ubuntu has some good guides
[07:41] <crimsun> Censorydep: /var/log/dmesg
[07:42] <marc74> why isn't there a definate answer?
[07:42] <indigirl1> DmD, try from the command line
[07:42] <indigirl1> marc74, because i haven't found it yet
[07:42] <indigirl1> marc74, i don't think you want to wait for me to find it
[07:42] <indigirl1> marc74, have you tried...
[07:43] <marc74> i wanna make this work
[07:43] <Censorydep> crimsun, apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac)
[07:43] <Censorydep> apm: overridden by ACPI.
[07:43] <DmD> no such file or dir
[07:43] <DmD> ;x
[07:43] <indigirl1> marc74, going to a website that requires java and installing through firefox?
[07:43] <indigirl1> cens0red, use acpi instead of apm
[07:43] <marc74> i have the file and done steps
[07:43] <indigirl1> oops cesnorydep not censored
[07:43] <transgress> i keep getting bad lag spikes... grar
[07:43] <marc74> but how do you set it up and integrate it with firefox?
[07:43] <Censorydep> crimsun, weird, I uninstalled acpi using synaptic. do you think I should disable it in the bios?
[07:44] <crimsun> Censorydep: thought so. Yes.
[07:44] <indigirl1> marc74, have you tried going to a website that requires java and installing through firefox?
[07:44] <fitheach> marc74, does java -version give output?
[07:44] <indigirl1> marc74, using firefox
[07:44] <marc74> i know this isn't impossible
[07:44] <crimsun> Censorydep: (ACPI is compiled as "y", so you can't really remove it, only disable it on boot)
[07:44] <marc74> indigirl1, it says to manually do it
[07:44] <Censorydep> indigirl1, nope, I am my own self.  And, I tried acpi, but was having some difficulties with it.  Since apm worked for me under Warty, I decided to go back.
[07:45] <stuNNed> acpi=off a
[07:45] <marc74> it's like a loop in a program
[07:45] <stuNNed> -a
[07:45] <indigirl1> Censorydep, ok. then   sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:45] <pixil9> ?? jrefirefox
[07:45] <uhelper> jrefirefox: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[07:45] <marc74> i did many suggestions of ppl in here
[07:46] <marc74> rpm and alien
[07:46] <Censorydep> indigirl1, got that, and I have apm=on on the #kopt line
[07:46] <marc74> what next?
[07:46] <indigirl1> marc74, try uhelper's link
[07:46] <Censorydep> crimsun, how do I disable acpi on boot?
[07:46] <indigirl1> Censorydep, add acpi=off
[07:46] <marc74> how did you do it?
[07:46] <pixil9> ?? jrefirefox > marc74
[07:46] <DmD> anyone have any suggestions of how i can get ftpd to work?
[07:46] <Censorydep> following apm=on?
[07:46] <indigirl1> Censorydep, yes
[07:46] <tbasten> dazzed, hey dude
[07:47] <indigirl1> marc74,  http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[07:47] <Censorydep> stuNNed, what does the "a" do following acpi=off?
[07:47] <tbasten> Anyone here use fluxbox?
[07:48] <indigirl1> tbasten, of course
[07:48] <indigirl1> Censorydep, probably a typo
[07:49] <tbasten> indigirl1, ok. I want to add my own icon into the main menu when i right click. How do i do that
[07:49] <Censorydep> indigirl1, cool, thanks.  going to reboot and give it a try.
[07:49] <Censorydep> crimsun, thanks, will reboot and be back
[07:49] <pixil9> !learn add grub-boot-menu This file is located in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:49] <borgista> a question w/ndiswrapper. Why would 'ndiswrapper -l' say i have the wrong driver if i grabbed it from the CD for the wireless card?
[07:49] <DmD> is there a tut on how to run ftpd?
[07:50] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[07:50] <marc74> i'm about ready to give someone su rights and install it for me
[07:51] <indigirl1> marc74, did the link not work for you?
[07:51] <marc74> indigirl1, no
[07:51] <DmD> i'm gonna try PureFTPd
[07:51] <marc74> indigirl1, i have a serious problem
[07:51] <indigirl1> borgista, don't use driver from the cd
[07:52] <borgista> indigirl1: where should i put the driver from then?
[07:52] <indigirl1> borgista, which cd do you mean?
[07:52] <da_bon_bon> hey, the ubuntu live cd is SLOW .. man takes ageeess to start :P
[07:52] <borgista> the CD which came with the card
[07:52] <indigirl1> borgista, use the driver from winxp
[07:52] <marc74> indigirl1, i should click on it and it should take me there riight?
[07:52] <pixil9> ** jre
[07:52] <uhelper> Found 1 matches. Sorted: jrefirefox. (0.0s)
[07:52] <borgista> indigirl1: do i search under winxp for it?
[07:52] <indigirl1> marc74, just type the url into your browser
[07:53] <marc74> indigirl1, ok
[07:53] <indigirl1> uhelper, i don't have a jrefirefox package
[07:53] <marc74> indigirl1, can you type it again?
[07:54] <borgista> indigirl1: would you know how to undo 'ndiswrapper -m' with the previous driver i put in?
[07:54] <da_bon_bon> whats jrefirefox ?
[07:54] <indigirl1> marc74, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[07:54] <indigirl1> marc74, the same page someone told you last night
[07:54] <benplaut> Yippeeee! getting a zaurus :^))
[07:55] <borgista> I'm sorry indigirl1but I'm at a loss as to _where_ to get the driver from.
[07:55] <indigirl1> borgista, if not an uninstall, then manually delete
[07:55] <fulldisclosure> why debian users hate ubuntu?
[07:55] <indigirl1> borgista, i remember a website. google for it
[07:55] <marc74> indigirl1, ok i'm there where do i look for the install?
[07:55] <borgista> i have...been most sites that come up seem sketchy.
[07:55] <benplaut> fulldisclosure: because it removes debian's "macho" look?
[07:55] <borgista> at best.
[07:56] <DmD> can anyone help me with ftpd?
[07:56] <indigirl1> marc74, it should be right under your nose. if not do a find in the webpage for jre
[07:56] <crimsun> DmD: which ftpd?
[07:56] <marc74> i'm about ready to give someone su and let them set it up for me
[07:56] <pixil9> I don't understand the program with the link
[07:56] <indigirl1> borgista, it will be sketchy
[07:57] <pixil9> It explains _exactly_ how to get java working.
[07:57] <indigirl1> borgista, that's where ndis is
[07:57] <fulldisclosure> hehehe
[07:57] <DmD> Setting up ftpd (0.17-18) ...
[07:57] <DmD> Installing new version of config file /etc/ftpusers
[07:57] <borgista> o.k.
[07:57] <marc74> this is fucking difficult
[07:57] <borgista> will try then.
[07:57] <fulldisclosure> benplaut, yes, maybe that the only and big reason
[07:57] <DmD> i installed it using apt-get
[07:57] <borgista> one last question indigirl1: but where would i go to uninstall the binding of wlan0 with the previous driver?
[07:57] <benplaut> fulldisclosure: i wouldn't doubt it for a minute...
[07:57] <indigirl1> marc74, i'm looking at it on the webpage right now     Q: How to install J2SE Runtime Environment (JRE) with Plug-in for Mozilla Firefox?
[07:57] <darGor> fulldisclosure, yeah that's fucking right and i cannot understand TOO!
[07:58] <indigirl1> marc74, do you not see this same spot?
[07:58] <benplaut> marc74: watch the language ;^)
[07:58] <crimsun> DmD: purge it and install vsftpd
[07:58] <JerryLoko> :P
[07:58] <indigirl1> borgista, maybe the new install will overwrite
[07:58] <DmD> alright
[07:59] <DmD> so alt-get install vsftpd
[07:59] <DmD> ?
[07:59] <JerryLoko> holaaaaaaaaaa
[07:59] <indigirl1> borgista, i think it requires a recompile of your kernel too. are you prepared to do that?
[07:59] <crimsun> DmD: apt-get --purge remove ftpd
[07:59] <crimsun> DmD: then, apt-get install vsftpd
[07:59] <JerryLoko> nadie habla espa;ol :D
[07:59] <borgista> recompile then use ndiswrapper again?
[08:00] <fulldisclosure> benplaut, I used debian for 3 years. And since 1 month I am using Ubuntu 5.04 because Gnome2.10 and Xorg 6.8.2 etc... I never understand me as 'debian user'. Indeed I used that distro because I like it the most, and now, but I am a 'f soft user'.  I like it so much :-)
[08:01] <marc74> lmao @ myself
[08:01] <indigirl1> borgista, try to find a guide on the web, maybe at tldp.com or whatever. it might calm your nerves to setup ndiswrapper
[08:02] <DmD>  Starting FTP server: vsftpd
[08:02] <DmD> so i take it it's installed now
[08:02] <borgista> thank you indigirl1. will do.
[08:02] <Censorydep> indigirl1, that worked, thanks
[08:02] <indigirl1> yea!
[08:02] <Censorydep> crimsun, thanks to you too!
[08:02] <crimsun> np
[08:03] <Censorydep> They must have turned acpi on in the kernel between Warty and Hoary, I didn't have to specifically disable it with Warty
[08:03] <indigirl1> marc74, learning to take the first step as a baby was probably difficult too
[08:03] <pixil9> !learn add forums Official Ubuntu Forums - http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:03] <Censorydep> either that, or it just magically worked before...
[08:03] <marc74> can't someone give me a rundown of what i have to do?
[08:03] <marc74> i'm seen the link a million times
[08:03] <pixil9> marc74, Right click your desktop and open console
[08:03] <pixil9> type everything there
[08:03] <indigirl1> marc74, please tell me you've done what's on the web link
[08:04] <marc74> indigirl1, i have mozilla open
[08:04] <pixil9> Well for one I'd suggest restarting it after you did whats in the link :P
[08:04] <DmD> crmisun, so now how do i add users to the ftp so they can login?
[08:04] <indigirl1> marc74, now go to ubuntuguide.org
[08:04] <DmD> crimsun*
[08:04] <marc74> indigirl1, errrr firefox
[08:04] <Censorydep> exit
[08:04] <stuNNed> Censorydep: nothing, add to the commented out line (keep it commented out) 'acpi=off apm=on' then run 'update-grub' and verify your changes are still there.
[08:04] <indigirl1> marc74, under addon applications, click # 3.
[08:05] <crimsun> DmD: vsftpd is geared toward anonymous usage, but you can easily add virtual users. Please see the documentation.
[08:05] <Censorydep> stuNNed, thanks, will do.
[08:05] <DmD> sudo vsftpd
[08:05] <DmD> 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[08:05] <pixil9> !learn add ntfs To mount and unmount windows partitions (ntfs, fat) - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[08:05] <indigirl1> DmD, vsftpd is probably already running
[08:06] <indigirl1> DmD, two copies can't run simultaneously
[08:06] <crimsun> DmD: no, use the initscript
[08:06] <DmD> alright
[08:06] <DmD> how can i read the doc?
[08:06] <crimsun> DmD: /etc/init.d/vsftpd
[08:06] <DmD> alright
[08:06] <indigirl1> DmD, /usr/share/doc/vsftd...
[08:06] <DmD> so /etc/init.d/vsftpd start?
[08:06] <indigirl1> yes
[08:06] <DmD> ah
[08:06] <indigirl1> or status to see where it's at
[08:06] <fightingfortofu> how would you uninstall kubuntu?
[08:06] <DmD> what would i do i if didn't find this channel ;)
[08:06] <undre6k> hello all,   Has anybody tried to plug thier PSP in their box with ubuntu
[08:07] <indigirl1> fightingfortofu, sudo apt-get remove kubuntu
[08:07] <fightingfortofu> thanks!
[08:07] <MuStR> anyone know if there is trash for the root user deleting with nautilus?
[08:07] <MuStR> g
[08:07] <DmD>  tarting FTP server: vsftpd
[08:07] <DmD> Starting*
[08:07] <DmD> so it's running
[08:07] <DmD> ..
[08:08] <indigirl1> MuStR, only if setup before the oops deletion
[08:08] <elcu> MuStR: sudo nautilus maybe?
[08:08] <MuStR> yes
[08:08] <pixil9> !learn add bootload To edit services executing on boot please 'man update-rc.d'. Ie. 'update-rc.d -f cron remove' | If you would like to remove the program completely search for it in the synaptic package manager or use dpkg -l |grep <name> followed by apt-get remove <name>.
[08:08] <DmD> /usr/share/doc/vsftd: command not found
[08:08] <MuStR> I'm thinking there is still a way to recover the files
[08:09] <MuStR> my HD space is the same before the deletion
[08:09] <MuStR> *the same as
[08:09] <pixil9> Why don't you load vsftpd in inetd?
[08:09] <crimsun> pixil9: no. bad. idea.
[08:09] <pixil9> o.
[08:09] <DmD> * Starting FTP server: vsftpd
[08:09] <DmD> it's already running i think
[08:10] <DmD> i tried to open the doc but it wasn't found
[08:10] <crimsun> DmD: the documentation is in /usr/share/doc/vsftpd/
[08:10] <indigirl1> DmD, that wasn't a command, /usr/share/doc is the folder for documentary for all your programs. under that should be a folder for vsftpd-version
[08:10] <crimsun> (s/-version//g)
[08:10] <indigirl1> crimsun, i doubt he knows regex
[08:11] <DmD> alright i'm in the dir
[08:11] <elcu> MuStR: try sudo nautilus, and then type in trash:
[08:11] <elcu> in the address bar
[08:11] <DmD> i did dir and i see README in there..
[08:13] <DmD> so how would i open the readme file in the terminal?
[08:13] <pixil9> !learn add memory To see total available memory or memory usage per process goto Applications --> System Tools --> System Monitor. Also see 'free' and 'top' in your console if you prefer no GUI.
[08:13] <crimsun> DmD: less, or $EDITOR
[08:14] <MuStR> WHOA I got it
[08:14] <MuStR> elcu: how do you get an address bar?
[08:14] <MuStR> thanks for your help, by the way ;)
[08:14] <elcu> it worked?
[08:14] <elcu> right-click on a folder and select browse folder.
[08:15] <pixil9> !learn add space To check available diskspace type 'df -h' in console. To see the usage of a specific directory type 'du -sh'
[08:15] <DmD> so is it $EDITOR README?
[08:15] <jabra> know how to fix this error from cups "Unable to connect to IPP host: Success"
[08:16] <crimsun> DmD: sure. Try vim, emacs, ...
[08:16] <netsniper> can someone help me get SSHv1 working on an OpenSSH server?
[08:16] <pixil9> Where is the ATI driver instructions?
[08:16] <elcu> DmD: or gedit :)
[08:16] <MuStR> elcu: I clicked places, then seleced trash, but your inout at that moment made me look there
[08:16] <MuStR> elcu: thanks
[08:16] <elcu> np
[08:16] <sm22> hey'
[08:17] <indigirl1> pixil9, on the ati website maybe
[08:17] <DmD> alright i did vim readme and i see a bunch of - lines
[08:17] <sm22> i just put in a soundblaster card in my cpu how do i enable it
[08:18] <pixil9> !learn add ati To install the binary ati drivers please see http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:18] <crimsun> sm22: which sb?
[08:18] <sm22> sound blaster audigy
[08:18] <indigirl1> ubuntu does hardware detection on boot right?
[08:18] <crimsun> sm22: hotplug will handle that for you.
[08:18] <sm22> so what do i do
[08:18] <crimsun> sm22: all you'll have to do is adjust the mixer volumes.
[08:18] <stuNNed> hmmm, does hoary installer have ntfsresize built in?
[08:19] <DmD> i see a bunch of ~ lines in the readme doc
[08:19] <sm22> i just put it in.. and i started it up
[08:19] <sm22> and it didnt say anything
[08:20] <DmD> how do i exit vim?  i used to know at one time
[08:20] <sm22> ahh what do i do
[08:20] <crimsun> DmD: ZZ
[08:20] <sm22> whats hot  plug crimsun
[08:20] <danko123456> escape, then ZZ
[08:20] <netsniper> DmD: or :q!
[08:20] <danko123456> Or, :wq
[08:20] <crimsun> sm22: the system takes care of it. All you have to do it boot.
[08:21] <netsniper> wq will write to file
[08:21] <danko123456> or :quit! if you cant exit otherwise.
[08:21] <danko123456> right.
[08:21] <topyli> if you launch vi, you're stuck. you can't exit :)
[08:21] <mpq> dammit
[08:21] <crimsun> sm22: is boot, rather
[08:21] <mpq> my flash is wonky
[08:21] <DmD> neither of those didn't work ;lx
[08:21] <danko123456> none>?
[08:21] <DmD> nope
[08:21] <danko123456> you have to be able to :quit!
[08:21] <mpq> the sound is delayed
[08:21] <crimsun> DmD: that's uppercase ZZ, btw
[08:21] <danko123456> thats an override.
[08:21] <DmD> :wq
[08:21] <DmD> :quit!
[08:21] <DmD> i tried those 2
[08:22] <indigirl1> DmD, wq!
[08:22] <danko123456> you go :, then on the bottom, there will appear:.
[08:22] <indigirl1> :wq!
[08:22] <danko123456> then, you type in quit!, and enter.
[08:22] <DmD> just goes to a new line
[08:22] <DmD> ;x
[08:22] <danko123456> or wq, if you are able, and willing to write the file.
[08:22] <sm22> crimsun what do u mean
[08:22] <DmD> i'll close the terminal
[08:22] <indigirl1> :q!
[08:23] <danko123456> :!!!!
[08:23] <danko123456> :)
[08:23] <indigirl1> or do Ctrl-C or Ctrl-Z
[08:23] <topyli> hrm.
[08:23] <danko123456> hey, crimsun...
[08:23] <sm22> i plugged in the soundblaster
[08:23] <danko123456> why would my sound stop working, by itself?
[08:23] <sm22> how do i know it works
[08:23] <danko123456> I checked the cords, they are fine.
[08:24] <danko123456> All sound is turned on...and playing..
[08:24] <ayen> good day
[08:24] <DmD> hm
[08:24] <danko123456> Then, also, my stereo(which is what I hook it up to...) plays music, on other channels...
[08:24] <bodaciousb> hey everyone, anyone ever used Trillian? its a program that puts AIM, yahoo, msn, icq, all in one program, im looking for something comparable in linux
[08:24] <ayen> can i ask anyone? i have a question
[08:24] <ayen> :P
[08:24] <danko123456> Any idea what I should try?
[08:24] <sm22> ughhh
[08:24] <pixil9> ayen, ask.
[08:24] <sm22> im so lost
[08:24] <sm22> i wish i knew what to do
[08:24] <danko123456> Gaim, bodaciousb
[08:24] <cens0red> ?
[08:24] <ayen> anyone who uses toshiba tecra510cdt?
[08:24] <topyli> bodaciousb: gaim
[08:24] <cens0red> someone called?
[08:24] <danko123456> gaim.sourceforge.net
[08:24] <bodaciousb> it does it all
[08:25] <ayen> i like to install ubuntu
[08:25] <bodaciousb> i didnt know that hehe
[08:25] <danko123456> yup
[08:25] <danko123456> You use that, right?
[08:25] <bodaciousb> well ill give it a try =)
[08:25] <pablo928>  bodaciousb, try gaim
[08:25] <bodaciousb> i thought it was jsut AIM, i never fired it before though
[08:25] <mpq> I need help
[08:25] <danko123456> whats up?
[08:25] <topyli> bodaciousb: it does them all
[08:25] <bodaciousb> wow, thanks guys
[08:25] <ayen> it;s just that i cannot boot it up from my cd rom
[08:25] <ayen> :(
[08:25] <mpq> flash doesn't work right on my computer
[08:26] <danko123456> and you installed it how?
[08:26] <crimsun> sm22: well are your speakers plugged into it?
[08:26] <bodaciousb> Very soon im going to move windows to my lowly 40gig second harddrive... and jsut use it for lan parties
[08:26] <bodaciousb> im almost converted!
[08:26] <crimsun> sm22: or at least headphones?
[08:26] <sm22> my speakers are attached to my monitor
[08:26] <ayen> hello? anyone can help me?
[08:26] <danko123456> mpq: this way: http://ubuntuguide.org/#flash-mozilla ?
[08:26] <sm22> my computer doesnt even recognize the card yet
[08:26] <sm22> is tehre some sort of command
[08:26] <crimsun> sm22: and how are the speakers attached to the sound card?
[08:26] <danko123456> ayen, what, your CD dont boot?
[08:26] <daile> ayen: have you change your BIOS setting to boot CD first?
[08:26] <danko123456> whats the CD?
[08:26] <sm22> to the monitor
[08:27] <sm22> oh theres a cord
[08:27] <sm22> that plugs into the monitor
[08:27] <sm22> and the sound card
[08:27] <sm22> but the problem is
[08:27] <ayen> hi daile
[08:27] <sm22> i dont see the sound card on the output of lspci
[08:27] <daile> ayen: hi
[08:27] <ayen> it does not have that option
[08:27] <ayen> just hdd and fdd
[08:27] <ayen> :)
[08:27] <ayen> :(
[08:27] <daile> ayen: Oh I c!!!!
[08:27] <mpq> it didn't work
[08:27] <danko123456> try alsamixer, sm22...play arounf withthe little columns in it...and it may work...
[08:28] <ayen> thats why
[08:28] <danko123456> that did not work?
[08:28] <ayen> if only i can boot it with my cd
[08:28] <danko123456> mpq: the ubuntuguide instructions did not work?
[08:28] <sm22> isnt there a plug and play
[08:28] <topyli> what a sucky bios
[08:28] <sm22> danko
[08:28] <sm22> like a command that looks for new hardware
[08:28] <danko123456> sory, lost you there.
[08:28] <daile> ayen: that's weird, are you sure you already read the BIOS manual for your mother board?
[08:28] <mpq> it said there wasn't a package
[08:28] <pixil9> mpq, Did you restart firefox?
[08:28] <danko123456> oh, no...it all gets automatically comfigured, as far as I know.
[08:29] <mpq> yes
[08:29] <ayen> daile , it was just given to me
[08:29] <mpq> same problem
[08:29] <crimsun> sm22: what exact model sb is it?
[08:29] <Raskall> I have a potential customer asking for the minimum requirements for running Ubuntu. Anyone know where I can find a link and send to him?
[08:29] <ayen> it's an old model
[08:29] <danko123456> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories, mpq...
[08:29] <ayen> but it runs win 95
[08:29] <mpq> I already have universe enabled
[08:29] <danko123456> is it a PC, mpq?
[08:29] <sm22> Soundblaster Audigy sb1394
[08:29] <topyli> ayen: the older the better, it's bound to be supported :)
[08:29] <mpq> yes
[08:29] <danko123456> k, add the repos, and try again.
[08:29] <sm22> what are repos
[08:29] <ayen> hi topyli
[08:30] <danko123456> it is known to work, to the best of my knowledge...
[08:30] <rixth> Ubuntu will not install. It complains something about bsdutils. Wtf. I downloaded the ISO TWICE fro differnet mirrors cause I thought it might be mme.
[08:30] <ayen> that's why i want it to be a linux laptop
[08:30] <ayen> heheheeh
[08:30] <danko123456> sm22: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories,
[08:30] <ayen> anyone knows toshibe hardware?
[08:30] <daile> ayen: hehe, yeah some old model is hard to change the setting to boot CD first, but yeah you should search for your model of motherboard online and search google for CD booting problem. Maybe there will be some help from some posts in some discussion forum.  What is your issue?
[08:31] <danko123456> probably
[08:31] <ayen> but do they support older hardware?
[08:31] <danko123456> thats cool
[08:31] <Dreamer3> ok
[08:31] <sm22> crimsun are you sure
[08:31] <Dreamer3> how is breezy?
[08:31] <sm22> my soundblaster wont work
[08:31] <Dreamer3> should i upgradE?
[08:32] <topyli> no
[08:32] <daile> ayen: how old is your computer? 5 years old?
[08:32] <crimsun> sm22: if the _sole_ transport is ieee1394, then no, the card is not supported.
[08:32] <confused_in_ct> Hi - I'm just installing Ubuntu on my very old Dell laptop.  Video is correctly recognized but only 640x480 and 800x600 resolution are displayed  This card/display should show 1024x768.  any advice?
[08:32] <ayen> hmm. i dont know
[08:32] <sm22> dude thats bull crap
[08:32] <ayen> its a toshiba tecra510cdt
[08:32] <danko123456> sound stopped working, everything hooked up...my alsamixer looks fine...my sound works for other music on the same speakers(an amp I hook it up to..)
[08:32] <Quinn_Storm> confused_in_ct: try a lower color depth?
[08:32] <crimsun> sm22: if however the card is a usb or a pci one that happens to have 1394 connectors additionally, then it will work
[08:32] <confused_in_ct> where is that color depth choice made?
[08:32] <sm22> oh
[08:33] <sm22> should i try reinstalling ubuntu
[08:33] <danko123456> the songs play in xmms, and all
[08:33] <Dreamer3> confused_in_ct: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?