[12:54] <ahayzen> Hey, I've recently become an Ubuntu Member and was wondering how one acquires an Ubuntu Cloak? This is my lp page https://launchpad.net/~ahayzen
[12:54] <k1l> this is the right channel :) now we need to wait for some IRCC member to confirm and then for a staffer to set the cloak.
[12:55] <k1l> congrats ahayzen btw :)
[12:55] <ahayzen> k1l, cool, thanks :)
[13:39] <Fuchs> we could prod Pici with a very pointy stick
[13:39] <Pici> Fuchs: Wouldn't help if I can't find a staffer
[13:43] <Fuchs> aww, mean staffies, are they hiding again
[13:43] <Fuchs> then we could try poking Pricey with a terribly pointy stick, or something :p
[13:43] <Pricey> staffers are always around!
[13:44] <Fuchs> See?
[13:44]  * Fuchs eats the pointy stick
[13:46] <Fuchs> (now I just hope that people are not only around but actually get the cloak done!)
[13:47] <Fuchs> (else the pointy stick was pointless)
[13:53] <Pici> Pricey: could you please grant ahayzen an ubuntu/member/ahayzen cloak?
[13:54] <Pici> thanks :)\
[13:56] <Pricey> ahayzen: Congratulations!
[13:56] <ahayzen> Pricey, thanks :)
[13:56] <Fuchs> yay! Congratulations ahayzen, thanks P-people
[13:56] <Pricey> P-people are the best.
[13:56] <ahayzen> thanks do i need todo anything else?
[13:56] <Pricey> ahayzen: sasl ftw. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nocloakonjoin
[13:57] <Fuchs> /nick Phuchs
[13:57] <ahayzen> Pricey, cool i'll have a look into that thanks :) and do i need to join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-cloaks ?
[13:58] <Fuchs> they will put you in there, usually
[13:58] <Fuchs> (them being, in this case, Pici)
[13:58] <Pricey> I haven't a clue, freenode doens't manage that.
[13:58] <ahayzen> ah cool :)
[14:03] <Pici> ahayzen: I'll throw you in that group as soon as my computer starts behaving (don't worry, its running Windows)
[14:04] <ahayzen> Pici, awesome thanks :)
[14:09] <ahayzen> Pricey, hmm i get "SASL is supported but there is no authentication information set for this network(ubuntu servers)." when XChat connects :/ (i've probably done something obvious wrong)
[14:11] <Fuchs> ahayzen: you have to  /sasl set  it for the correct network  (case sensitive)
[14:11] <ahayzen> what would the network be? 'ubuntu servers' or 'freenode' or ?
[14:11] <Fuchs> ahayzen: whatever is written in your XChat Server dialogue
[14:12] <Fuchs> freenode would be the correct name, but chances are, from that error message, that XChat calls it ubuntu servers
[14:15] <Fuchs> ahayzen: in general it's recommended to use HexChat, it's an XChat fork, so you get the same UI, all the same features but some additional ones, including out of the box SASL support
[14:15] <Fuchs> which requires a bit less awkward configuration and has cute GUIs for it
[14:16] <ahayzen> ah that maybe better then :) it doesn't seem to like the space when trying to use set lol
[14:34] <ahayzen> Yey got it all setup thanks folks :)
[14:38] <Fuchs> You're welcome ♥
[14:40] <Pici> yay
[15:18] <Mikaela> I am still worried by XChat being shipped with all distributions or being available in the repos and every distribution adding their own set of patches to it. I have voiced my concern in bug report and question, but I feel like they are ignored and I am worrying it looks like I am attacking the packagers or something.
[15:18] <Mikaela> Another commonly occurring SASL issue is using DH-something instead of PLAIN.
[15:34] <Pici> Mikaela: If you're not getting a response in Ubuntu's bug tracking, you could always try going upstream to Debian
[15:35] <Mikaela> that would probably require installing Debian for reportbug or something and I am not sure how things work on that side
[15:38] <Pici> I'm pretty sure you can just send an email.
[15:42] <Pici> Or just contact the maintainer and see what they say about it
[15:44] <Mikaela> I don't know, I hope they will visit the Ubuntu tracker sometime


[05:05] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[05:06] <Kilos> power might go again this morn. dunno if they did yesterday what they said they were gonna do today
[06:05] <superfly> morning Kilos
[06:23] <Kilos> hi henkj Superhuman
[06:23] <Kilos> Maaz, wb
[06:23] <Maaz> Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend
[06:24] <Kilos> i wonder why he didnt get a tail
[06:33] <henkj> hi Kilos
[06:54] <superfly> morning Maaz
[06:54] <superfly> *maiatoday
[06:54] <superfly> eish
[06:56] <Kilos> hehe hiya maiatoday
[07:03] <superfly> Kilos: you don't even say hi to me anymore!
[07:04] <Kilos> 07.05 Kilos> morning superfly and others
[07:05] <superfly> gah
[07:05] <Kilos> how can i forget you superfly ?
[07:05] <superfly> I missed that
[07:05] <Kilos> i forgive you
[07:05] <Kilos> hehe
[07:05] <superfly> Thank you :-)
[07:05] <Kilos> old age and min sleep
[07:06] <superfly> that it be
[07:08] <Kilos> have you looked at debian kde superfly ?
[07:09] <Kilos> i was thinking of maybe using night surfer next month to get it if its good because of the deb-delta factor
[07:10] <Kilos> just on one drive though. wont give up ubuntu and will keep hoping Symmetria and Fanie get us a deb-delta server going
[07:11] <superfly> Kilos: I have a Debian KDE virtual machine, it's a lot like Kubuntu, but without all the Ubuntu/Kubuntu extra bits
[07:11] <superfly> and it's more difficult to get things like nVidia drivers (they aren't in the repository)
[07:11] <Kilos> ouch
[07:12] <Kilos> ty maybe ill leave it then
[07:12] <superfly> For most people, Ubuntu or Kubuntu are more than they need
[07:12] <tumbleweed> superfly: erm, Debian has Nvidia drivers in non-free
[07:13] <superfly> tumbleweed: oh, do they?
[07:13] <tumbleweed> but you'll probably find Kubuntu has newer KDE much faster
[07:13] <tumbleweed> superfly: yeah, lways has
[07:13] <superfly> OK, I did some Googling, and it looked like you needed to add a 3rd party repo
[07:13] <tumbleweed> personally, I use nouveau, though
[07:13] <superfly> I've used nouveau and found it unstable
[07:14] <Kilos> is it not hard to setup etc.. i dont use fancy stuff. mainly the basics
[07:15] <Kilos> muon makes it easy
[07:17] <Kilos> tumbleweed, you talking about 13.04 kubuntu being faster?
[07:18] <tumbleweed> Kilos: no
[07:19] <Kilos> oh all kde in ubuntu then?
[07:21] <tumbleweed> I'm saying that Ubuntu manages to get the latest KDE into Ubuntu quite quickly. In Debian, these things can take some time
[07:24] <Kilos> ah ty
[07:30] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[07:31] <Kilos> we missed you at the meeting last night maiatoday
[07:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peeps
[07:49] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[08:10] <superfly> aloha ThatGraemeGuy
[08:10]  * ThatGraemeGuy waves
[08:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> working from home today
[08:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> flies are driving me MENTAL
[08:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> but still better than being at the office
[08:15] <Vince-0> haai
[08:21] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[08:34] <superfly> hi Vince-0
[08:34] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: but I thought that there was no official work from home policy?
[08:34] <Vince-0> work work wub wub
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> you know how it works here, "official" is very loosely defined
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> plus given the choice between me taking the day off and working from home, they chose the latter
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> there's a possibility that work from home might be an official option once we move, holding thumbs on that
[08:42] <superfly> you're moving?
[08:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> black river business park in Obs
[08:43] <superfly> ah, nice
[08:43] <superfly> back to obs
[08:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> nice for some, less nice for others
[08:43] <superfly> are DE moving with you guys?
[08:43] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: true, more of a pain for you
[08:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> nope, they're moving elsewhere in century city
[08:44] <superfly> ah, OK
[09:07] <inetpro> good evening
[09:08] <Kilos> lo inetpro
[10:37] <Kilos> hi not_found
[10:37] <Kilos> drubin_, hoe gaan dit met jou?
[10:52] <inetpro> Uh-oh!
[10:53] <inetpro> Pretoria zoo's two-metre black mamba has escaped from its enclosure, and staff have been unable to find it
[10:53] <Kilos> uh oh thats a nasty snake
[10:54] <Kilos> very deadly
[10:54] <Kilos> deadley
[10:54] <Kilos> ai!
[10:54] <Kilos> Maaz, spel deadly
[10:54] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[10:54] <Kilos> Maaz, spell deadly
[10:54] <Maaz> Kilos: Yup, that's a word all right
[10:55] <Kilos> and that size can travel the spead of a horse
[10:55] <Kilos> speed
[10:56] <inetpro> eish!
[10:56] <inetpro> but they say: "There was no need for hysteria, he said, as the black mamba was in all likelihood preparing for hibernation, and was in a constricted area, with little chance of it reaching any member of the public."
[10:56] <inetpro> “It would have to get through three doors before coming into contact with the public.”
[10:57] <inetpro> http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/gauteng/pretoria-zoo-s-black-mamba-missing-1.1488592
[10:57] <Kilos> ah
[10:58] <Kilos> theres lots there near mage
[11:00] <Kilos> get between one of them and their nest and they go through you not around
[11:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> snaaaake! snaaaaaaake! oooohhhh it's a snaaake!
[11:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> badgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadger mushroom! mushroom!
[11:54] <Kilos> lol
[12:56]  * Kilos wonders where jurgy is today
[12:56] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[12:57] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[12:57] <Kilos> school out for the day?
[12:58] <theblazehen> yea. ends at 2
[12:58] <Kilos> lekker enjoy it while you can
[12:58] <theblazehen> I will :)
[12:58] <Kilos> at 2 other peeps still got 3 hours to go
[12:58] <theblazehen> yea
[13:00] <Kilos> are you gonna study computer science after school
[13:00] <theblazehen> Think so.
[13:00] <Kilos> good thats where the brains and money are
[13:00] <theblazehen> Yea :)
[15:02] <TaraLS> hiya all.
[15:02] <TaraLS> nuvolari:  :)
[16:07] <Kilos> hi simeon
[16:07] <tumbleweed> lol https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1157263
[16:09] <Kilos> is that a joke or does unity really do that?
[16:09] <tumbleweed> that'll be current unity
[16:10] <Kilos> eeek
[16:10] <Kilos> they will sort that quickly
[16:11] <Kilos> hi eyesonlyhack
[16:12] <eyesonlyhack> ello
[16:12] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[16:24] <Kilos> hi Cantide
[16:24] <Cantide> hey Kilos :)
[16:34] <Kilos> eyesonlyhack: do you need help or you just visiting
[16:34] <Kilos> tell us about yourself
[16:41] <Kilos> wb nuvolari
[16:58] <Kilos> hmm... chatty chap
[16:58] <Squirm> lo
[16:59] <Kilos> lo Squirm
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:06] <Squirm> worst season finale ever
[17:16] <Kilos> what?
[17:39] <magedroid> Evening all
[17:39] <Cantide> hey magedroid
[17:40] <magedroid> O/
[17:41] <magedroid> does anyone know who is charge of the ubuntu-za facebooonpage?
[17:41]  * Cantide doesn't
[17:41] <magedroid> Facebook page rather
[17:42] <superfly> uh, let me see...
[17:44] <magedroid> I am stuck on gprs and no quassel tonight , electricity has been off from 05:30
[17:45] <superfly> magedroid: I don't see a Facebook page, but I do see a group, which I am an admin of
[17:45] <magedroid> Ohh okay thats cool then
[17:47] <superfly> magedroid: need something?
[17:47] <magedroid> I was thinking that the invooved page of ubuntu-za also needs some work, thats where i saw the facebook link
[17:48] <magedroid> Involved
[17:48] <superfly> ah
[17:49] <Kilos> hi magedroid
[17:49] <magedroid> Hey Kilos no quassel i feel a bit cut off
[17:50] <Kilos> aw  thats no good magedroid
[17:50] <Kilos> the power business really sucks
[17:51] <Kilos> we off next tuesday all day again'
[17:51] <magedroid> Planned?
[17:53] <magedroid> superfly did you run something like ubuntu one for the n900?
[17:53] <superfly> nope
[17:54] <Kilos> yeah they notified us
[17:56] <Kilos> they are actually very efficient. they cut power then go to where they are making a new connection and start planting poles and stringing wires then trench through the road then get to main line and connect and then restore power
[17:56] <Kilos> fools
[17:58] <magedroid> Yup supposed to be doing something similar here today
[18:03] <Kilos> one would think they would first do all the work on the new line up to main line then cut power and connect
[18:04] <magedroid> yup but such is not the way
[18:09] <inetpro> good evening
[18:09] <magedroid> superfly did you ever try a debian package on your n900?
[18:11] <magedroid> Hi inetpro
[18:14] <Kilos> lo inetpro im really starting to enjoy kde
[18:14] <Kilos> even played hangman
[18:14] <inetpro> eventually he's seeing the light
[18:14] <inetpro> \o/
[18:15] <Kilos> there is so much to it
[18:15] <Kilos> how they fit it all on the cd i dunno
[18:16] <Kilos> im sorry i didnt make a kde 12.04.2 cd instead of unity now
[18:16] <inetpro> nuvolari: you really desperate to change that logo? :-)
[18:17] <Kilos> inetpro: and you need to update the topic bar hey
[18:17] <magedroid> kde guys are you using kubuntu?
[18:17] <Kilos> yeah
[18:17] <inetpro> magedroid: yes sir
[18:18] <Kilos> i have kubuntu on 2 drives lubuntu+mate on one and maverick on 2
[18:18] <magedroid> Is there a difference between kubuntu and 'pure' kde?
[18:18] <Kilos> all working
[18:18] <Kilos> w000t
[18:18] <magedroid> Thats cool Kilos
[18:19] <Kilos> but now you have to help unity peeps
[18:19] <Kilos> what i dont see dont exist
[18:20] <magedroid> I help from google, not what i am using, do not really know/remember that much
[18:23] <Kilos> google gives me info that crashes my pc
[18:23] <magedroid> The reason why i ask the kde question is i have an old laptop the run 10.04 okay but think kubuntu would be too much for it
[18:23] <Kilos> then the fly fights with me
[18:23] <Kilos> how old magedroid ?
[18:23] <Kilos> specs wise
[18:24] <magedroid> So was thinking of doing a server install and trying the various desktops out
[18:24] <magedroid> Not too sure specs but at least 4 years and probable closer to 6
[18:24] <magedroid> Let me check quickly
[18:25] <Kilos> how without power?
[18:26] <magedroid> Has battery
[18:26] <Kilos> oh lappy?
[18:26] <magedroid> It is a compaq nx6110
[18:27] <magedroid> Yup
[18:28] <magedroid> Intel celeron m 1500 Mhz 1536 MB ram
[18:28] <Kilos> if you got 2g cpu and 2g ram it will work
[18:28] <Kilos> maybe even with those specs
[18:28] <Kilos> just be a bit slow to boot
[18:29] <Kilos> i will try one drive on old p4 morrow and let you know
[18:29] <Kilos> 1.7g cpu and 640m ram
[18:29] <Kilos> runs maverick lekker
[18:30] <magedroid> 10.04 is lucid lynx i think
[18:30] <Kilos> yes
[18:31] <Kilos> was also good but needed work to get 3g going
[18:31] <Kilos> no usb-modeswitch installed as default
[18:32] <magedroid> Never use a 3g modem never even had a look
[18:32]  * inetpro used the wiki for the agenda of our next meeting while the LoCo Team Portal is broken - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20130415
[18:33] <Kilos> who broke it?
[18:33] <Kilos> not me
[18:34]  * Kilos pleads innocence
[18:34] <Kilos> magedroid: when youve installed kde try konversation
[18:34] <Kilos> very lekker
[18:34] <Kilos> but no core for fones like quassel
[18:35] <Kilos> but it can bloep
[18:35] <magedroid> Will check it out
[18:35] <Kilos> heaps of config stuff
[18:35] <magedroid> Indeed
[18:36] <Kilos> hey inetpro that command you gave to check cpu showed a single core here
[18:37] <Kilos> but the net says the intel R 3gig is 2 cores
[18:37] <inetpro> Kilos: uh-oh, what command?
[18:37] <Kilos> whew was a month or so back
[18:38] <Kilos> cpu info
[18:38] <superfly> magedroid: "try a debian package"?
[18:39] <magedroid> superfly i found testdisk and photorec for the n900, and that made me think, could you install .deb onnthe n900?
[18:39] <nuvolari> o/ g'evening
[18:39] <Kilos> lo nuvolari
[18:39] <superfly> magedroid: not quite
[18:39] <superfly> magedroid: they have to be compiled for the N900's ARM processor
[18:40] <nuvolari> is it possible to change the visibility of a google+ post later on?
[18:40] <Kilos> ask Vince-0 thats his domain
[18:40] <magedroid> Ahh right,  would that be the main probablem?
[18:40] <magedroid> o/ nuvolari
[18:41] <inetpro> nuvolari: no and yes
[18:41] <inetpro> nuvolari: no but you can copy and paste into a new share
[18:41] <nuvolari> the uncertainty principle
[18:41] <nuvolari> :P
[18:41] <inetpro> :-)
[18:41] <magedroid> nuvolari i heard that was a bit like the wild west in ballito tonight?
[18:42] <Kilos> no man van der merwes speak like that
[18:42] <Kilos> ja/nee
[18:42] <inetpro> nuvolari: that is why I suggested a google docs document
[18:42] <nuvolari> magedroid: eh? not that I know of
[18:42] <nuvolari> I heard on the radio last night
[18:42] <magedroid> Schrodingers cat
[18:42] <magedroid> Taxi stuff apparently nuvolari
[18:43] <inetpro> no Schrödinger's cat
[18:43] <magedroid> Indeed
[18:43] <Vince-0> nuvolari, I think you can change the perms on a post
[18:43] <magedroid> Was not sure
[18:44] <Vince-0> actually doesn't look like it from edit
[18:44] <nuvolari> magedroid: good thing I'm not *in* ballito during the day, but I saw the caspers and some police vans patrolling
[18:44] <inetpro> Vince-0: no, you can't
[18:45] <nuvolari> trying to create gdrive drawing from the svg just now
[18:47] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[18:47] <nuvolari> ugh, my net is bad
[18:47] <nuvolari> or it's just all google traffic that seems off
[18:47] <nuvolari> off as in bad
[18:47] <magedroid> Brb
[18:48] <nuvolari> Sorry, we are unable to generate a view of the document at this time. Please try again later.
[18:48] <nuvolari> :'(
[18:48] <Kilos> ai!
[18:55] <nuvolari> ok, I'm kind of discusted with googledocs tonight
[18:55] <nuvolari> I never had this issues before
[18:55] <magedroid> hey still cannot connect to the shop dns update not working right
[18:56] <magedroid> power is back in hluhluwe
[18:58] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:58] <inetpro> looks like the LoCo Team Portal was updated today
[18:58] <nuvolari> svg fails, odg fails, raw svg fails, eps fails
[18:59] <nuvolari> eps works, but it's empty
[18:59] <magespawn> right now this is better
[18:59] <magespawn> nuvolari: png?
[18:59] <nuvolari> magespawn: can't really modify png :P
[19:00] <nuvolari> wanted to have something so people can modify the vectors
[19:00] <magespawn> are you using inkscape?
[19:00] <nuvolari> magespawn: yeah, tried to import a file to google drive
[19:01] <inetpro> eish! After posting the 2nd agenda Item I get Internal Server Error... so frustrating to use that system!!
[19:02] <Kilos> inetpro: fix it
[19:02] <inetpro> Kilos: me fix it? How?
[19:03] <Kilos> i dunno, in reverse of how you broke it
[19:03] <magespawn> nuvolari: you can't use gimp to save it? literally open and then save
[19:03] <Kilos> run fsck -f
[19:04] <Kilos> who maintains it?
[19:04] <nuvolari> magespawn: eh?
[19:04] <magespawn> seem to remmeber there was something that inkscape did to svg files that google did not like
[19:04] <nuvolari> ah
[19:04] <nuvolari> I'll try
[19:05] <Kilos> whats a svg file?
[19:05] <magespawn> was a will back, and did not take note off it, was when i trying to add graphics to my google apps site
[19:05] <magespawn> scaler vector graphics
[19:05] <magespawn> s/will/while
[19:06] <Kilos> isnt there a converter to some thing google will accept
[19:07] <Kilos> what type of file does google wanna see
[19:07] <magespawn> who knows?
[19:08] <Kilos> nuvolari: what kind of file is google happy with
[19:09] <nuvolari> google hates me
[19:09] <magespawn> lol
[19:09] <nuvolari> I should just go apple and get lost
[19:11] <magespawn> ha from the most open to the most closed
[19:11] <nuvolari> Kilos: after tonight and what they're doing with Reader, I'm pretty sure that steve jobs turned around in his grave and is molesting google's servers
[19:11] <Kilos> wb eyesonlyhack
[19:11] <Kilos> hehe
[19:12] <nuvolari> drive is just not working!!!!
[19:12] <nuvolari> oh @#$^$%^#$%^#$%^#$%^#$%^#$%^#$%^!
[19:12] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:12] <nuvolari> *rage*
[19:12] <magespawn> shame nuvolari
[19:13] <nuvolari> that was me having a tantrum
[19:13] <magespawn> lol
[19:14] <magespawn> i am of to bed, good night all
[19:14] <Kilos> night magespawn sleep tight
[19:14] <nuvolari> 32 defunct chromium-browser processes...
[19:15] <inetpro> Kilos: ^^
[19:15] <Kilos> well done inetpro ty
[19:15] <Kilos> is the logs the minutes of last meets
[19:15] <inetpro> I didn't post all the details as per usual
[19:16] <nuvolari> load average: 17.47, 13.33, 7.15
[19:16] <nuvolari> :-/
[19:16] <nuvolari> I'm crashing
[19:17] <Kilos> you or the pc nuvolari
[19:17] <inetpro> Kilos: I guess I should post the minutes of the previous meeting under "Meeting Minutes:"
[19:17] <Kilos> ya
[19:17] <nuvolari> Kilos: I think both of us at this pace
[19:17] <Kilos> im not far behind
[19:19] <inetpro> fixed...
[19:19] <nuvolari> ugh, .ps doesn't work (displays though)
[19:21] <Kilos> well done inetpro
[19:21] <Kilos> night guys sleep tight
[19:21] <nuvolari> night oom Kilos
[19:22] <inetpro> Kilos: goeie nag
[19:22] <inetpro> nuvolari: so maybe just use plain g+
[19:32] <nuvolari> I don't know what happened to the internet. it's horribly broken
[19:33] <nuvolari> I'm sure I came across a collaborative vector drawing app some time ago
[19:33] <nuvolari> but now I can't find anything of use
[19:44] <Squirm> hi
[19:49] <Squirm> so I just got a friend invite on facebook
[19:49] <Squirm> Tresor Yodi
[19:49] <Squirm> Went to institut saint Eric
[19:49] <Squirm> Lives in Kinshasa
[19:49] <Squirm> Knows French, Lingala
[19:49] <Squirm> Male
[19:55] <Squirm> night people


[00:00] <Saj0577> I going to redirect it as it has all the changes which show people doing their tests. now back to work on other wiki page lol
[00:13] <Saj0577> is it me being silly or is there not a wiki page for pidgin?
[00:48] <Rocket2DMn> Saj0577, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin
[00:49] <Saj0577> yeah found it. doing 4 wiki pages atm im on a roll :D
[00:49] <Rocket2DMn> were you looking on wiki.ubuntu.com?
[00:49] <Saj0577> yeah but now i learnt tyo look on both
[00:49] <Rocket2DMn> the community docs are at h.u.c/community
[00:50] <Rocket2DMn> w.u.c is the team wiki, there is some documentation there, but wiki help documentation is really supposed to be on the community docs
[00:50] <Saj0577> but i can only edit wiki pages and then people will make then help pages if there good yes?
[00:50] <Rocket2DMn> you can make new pages, but most stuff already has documentation
[00:51] <starcraftman> Saj0577, no, ya can edit huc pages directly. I think thats what your asking. Same login with lp to access.
[00:51] <Saj0577> oright okays. well i doing wiki.ubuntu atm
[00:51] <Rocket2DMn> Saj0577, if it doesnt have the /community, then you are looking at html versions of the syste mdocs
[00:51] <Rocket2DMn> those you cant edit directly
[00:52] <Saj0577> okay.
[00:52] <Saj0577> so anything in wiki.ubuntu.com/page_name yeah?
[00:53] <Zachk18> Saj0577, correct
[00:53] <Saj0577> sweet :)
[00:53] <starcraftman> Saj0577,  These you can edit via login > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging < note community after slash.
[00:53] <starcraftman> These are snapshots of sysdocs > https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[00:54] <Saj0577> If i write for the wiki it is helping though yeah?
[00:55] <starcraftman> Saj0577, well, write what? If it's community documentation should be on huc, wiki.ubuntu per my understanding is now nothing more than a scratch pad for doc contributors and a dumping ground for proposals, team organization and miscellaneous.
[00:55] <Saj0577> argh right okay.
[00:56] <Saj0577> well if i write in the wiki it means at least i making progress for the team
[00:56] <Zachk18> starcraftman, i agree. the huc is more of the actual help nowadays....the wiki seems to be like you said...a dumping ground
[00:57] <starcraftman> Saj0577, can I see what content ya writing on wiki.ubuntu, then I can tell easy if it should be there.
[00:57] <Saj0577> starcraftman: Geany   been working on that before lost computer going to resume work on it
[00:59] <Saj0577> its pretty basic atm as it was just a quick writing before went to bed so knew what i needed to do
[01:01] <Zachk18> Saj0577, https://help.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWithFirebirdDatabase that's one i'm doing...of a few different ones...check it out
[01:01] <Saj0577> hang on
[01:01] <Saj0577> Zachk18: nice.
[01:02] <Zachk18> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuWithFirebirdDatabase there's the actual link
[01:02] <Saj0577> i found it
[01:02] <Zachk18> oh ok
[01:02] <Zachk18> i forgot the /community is all
[01:02] <Saj0577> ye sure
[01:03] <starcraftman> Saj0577, k, well as ya like. But once finished be sure to move the page to HUC and delete the wuc page.
[01:03] <Saj0577> yeah okay. sounds good.
[01:55] <Zachk18> starcraftman, hey!
[01:56] <starcraftman> Zachk18, Hey back at ya.
[01:57] <Zachk18> starcraftman, what's up?
[01:57] <starcraftman> Zachk18, Too many things, that's what. Up is a busy direction, same as down. Left and right by far less busy.
[01:58] <Zachk18> starcraftman, haha.....hey...did you see i'm a bt member now?
[02:00] <starcraftman> indeed, twas quick, welcome aboard Zachk18. :) Don't let learning stop once ya out of paddy status, and remember to do wiki work or else....
[02:00] <Zachk18> starcraftman, yes.....
[02:01] <starcraftman> Zachk18, the else is making tux cry. Nobody wants that.
[02:01] <Zachk18> starcraftman, i'm actually working on a doc page for Project UDSF as we 'speak"
[02:02] <starcraftman> Zachk18, good, I gotta relax now. Feeling tad tired.
[02:02] <Zachk18> starcraftman, ok....talk to you later my mahn
[07:21] <rr72> lol I just realized why I was the only one in xubuntu-dev hehe.
[07:39] <Zachk18> rr72, why...
[08:23] <korin43> hi everyone. I'm trying to write a manual in docbook format, but I'm having trouble finding a way to view what I'm writing. Is there a simple way to convert it to HTML?
[17:57] <rr72> Zachk18~ because I was looking for devel not dev
[22:34] <mdke> nhandler: thanks for the quick reply :) Shall I reject the merge for now?
[22:34] <nhandler> mdke: Yes, that would be fine.
[22:34] <mdke> ok, thanks
[22:35] <mdke> let us know how things go in the future
[22:35] <nhandler> mdke: Will do. If you want, feel free to join the ~packaging-docs team on LP and subscribe to the mailing list.
[22:36] <mdke> I'll probably have a look at the archive every now and again :)


[00:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> @teward001 Yikes! Been there done that!
[00:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: I gotcha. My testing results were pretty much no-gos.
 Eickmeyer: Indeed.  But even so, it's not super severe, it's just enough to cause other negative symptoms.
 so a full IV drip bag was enoug hheh
[19:05] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: aside from not working :) what did you think of the new layouts?
[19:07] <OvenWerks> The width seems to be forced by the width of the headphone device
[19:19] <OvenWerks> I think the dev selection across the top is right.
[19:21] <OvenWerks> but I am thinking of changing what is below. There are three columns so just the hide button in the first column, The two chan counts in the centre and the three device settings on the right.
[22:11] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: I couldn't even get the application to run.
[22:52] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: when run from command line did you get some errors? It has been running here. Mind it could be that error you merged... though that ran for me too.
[22:53] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: I got the error that I merged, but then it still failed from both command line and no-op'd from icon. The terminal output is in Issue #33.
[23:00] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Sorry for merging that, btw. :(
[23:35] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: I have plugged a USB midi device in and yes that happens here
[23:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Ok, so perhaps the proc directory needs to check to see fit he stream0 directory is even there before it tries?
[23:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> *if
[23:42] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: :) yeah, just did that. I did for internal devices (codec#0) but because with USB we look for something else first it wasn't.
[23:42] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Oh, ok. That makes sense.
[23:47] <OvenWerks> the midi device does not show in any of the pull downs already, I guess because there are no sub devices.Just checking autojack to make sure it is ok.
[23:55] <OvenWerks> huh, in autojack, it has to have a subdevice it looks like.
[23:57] <OvenWerks> and USB plug detect looks for at least one subdevice too.
[23:57] <OvenWerks> I guess I already had to fix this in autojack :)