[17:59] <Myrtti> not that it is any of my business, but...
[18:00] <Myrtti> Nafallo: I'm worried about -se-offtopic
[18:02] <Nafallo> Myrtti: sorry, not my channel. I believe hakanS is the correct contact.
[18:03] <Myrtti> Nafallo: I know, he is now. That seems to be the problem according to the residents of it.
[18:03] <Myrtti> but just so you know
[18:03] <Myrtti> the issue might be escalated anyway
[18:04] <Nafallo> well, my suggestion in the matter was to make the channel change name to something not ubuntu, and add an #. just fwiw ;-)
[18:04] <Myrtti> I know
[18:04] <Myrtti> or rather, guessed
[18:04] <Nafallo> :-)
[20:18] <pangolin> Seems -se-offtopic is big news today, just saw someone talk about it getting "stolen" in #freenode
[20:18] <pangolin> ircc ^
[20:19] <Myrtti> indeed
[20:19] <Nafallo> stolen?
[20:19] <Myrtti> not really
[20:19] <Myrtti> einand making ripples
[20:20] <Nafallo> yeah. what's that about. he just complained in -se.
[20:20] <Myrtti> colour me surprised
[20:21] <Nafallo> so far he only said one degrading line about HakanS, and then went quiet.
[20:22] <Myrtti> he also made the channel +im
[20:22] <Myrtti> then left
[20:22] <Nafallo> haha
[20:24] <pangolin> I just report the news. I make no claims to its veracity
[20:24] <pangolin> did I spell that right?
[20:24] <pangolin> I think I did.
[20:27] <popey> yes, it's T H A T
[20:28] <pangolin> thanks popey :)
[20:43] <einand> I need to speak to someone about the swedish leader HakanS and his strange, and abusive behavor
[20:43] <Myrtti> alright, what's up
[20:44] <einand> ok, here is the story, i have been running #ubuntu-se-offtopic for almost 2 years now
[20:44] <einand> and HakanS joined and asked if i could give it to the swedish comunity
[20:44] <einand> so i agreed
[20:44] <einand> he is the leader of the swedish ubuntu part
[20:45] <einand> so today
[20:45] <einand> he just made the channel invite only and put +m on it
[20:45] <einand> this after a lot of discussesions last 2 days
[20:46] <einand> that bceourse he said offtopic chat is not allowed in offtopic
[20:46] <Myrtti> looking at the channel logs, it looks like he says the +im part was a mistake
[20:46] <Myrtti> you left the channel before it was reversed
[20:46] <einand> yes, becourse i feelt no need to be in it
[20:47] <einand> when i couldent say anyting as he removed all my rights
[20:47] <Myrtti> fair enough
[20:47] <einand> and i belive you know a huge part of the channels latest few activtys
[20:49] <einand> peopel like him should not lead other persons
[20:49] <einand> he is doing misstake after misstake


[16:30] <KBar> woah just noticed. when i adjust the volume of a youtube video very frantically, there are crackling, popping, jarring sounds. anyone else having the same issue on focal?


[19:04] <Bashing-om> jose: The Fridge calendar is unpopulated. Is this something that you can attend to ?
[19:05] <Bashing-om> ^ https://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/
[19:19] <Bashing-om> UWN: Issue 684 up for review and edits ( note not final) pending is the Fridge calendar, table of contents, The hub's "Kubernetes at the edge".
[19:54] <kryten> Bashing-om: The calendar is working just fine here.
[19:55] <Bashing-om> kryten: Lemme try again :)
[19:56] <Bashing-om> kryten: Nope - the calendar does not populate for me :(
[20:00] <kryten> Bashing-om: What web browser is being stupid there again then?.. :3
[20:00] <Bashing-om> kryten: Beats me - the Fridge is the only site with an issue presently :(
[20:01] <Bashing-om> kryten: Be running a chromium spin "slimjet"
[20:02] <kryten> lol
[20:03] <Bashing-om> kryten: Are you where you can nomplete the "Upcoming Meetings and Events" section for UWN - so that I can move on ?
[20:03] <Bashing-om> complete*
[20:05] <kryten> Quite busy elsewhere right now.. :3
[20:06] <Bashing-om> kryten: I wait and see what chris can do :)
[20:06] <kryten> Yep, thought the same! :)
[20:33] <kryten> Bashing-om: Another option though would be to just add the Fridge calendar to your Google Calendar and use that instead of the website - which is what I've done earlier myself.. :)
[20:34] <Bashing-om> kryten: Lemme see what I can do with Google :) thanks -
[20:36] <kryten> Bashing-om: Does the plus button in the lower right of the calendar on the web page work for you at least then? :3
[20:45] <Bashing-om> kryten: No see that + button - but I seem to be making some progress that I can work with :)
[20:46] <kryten> Ok then.. :)
[21:11] <Bashing-om> UWN: Issue 684 up for review: pending is the video link for "Kubernetes at the edge" article in order to add to the issue: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue684


[00:08] <clepto1995> randomcpp, I'm going to bed, if you find anything send me an email (you can find it on github) or wait until tomorrow
[00:08] <randomcpp> ok sure :)
[00:08] <clepto1995> goodnight
[00:08] <randomcpp> goodnight
[00:20] <hakermania> Good night from me, too!
[00:43] <GuidoPallemans> just pushed my latest sources to github on my github app: https://github.com/brambram/GithubClient
[03:12] <rschroll> Is it possible to individually style the values in a ValueSelector?
[03:12] <rschroll> I'm trying to make a font selector, and it'd be nice for each option to be in that font
[06:52] <oSoMoN> good morning
[07:54] <gusch> oSoMoN: hi can you have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-unified-multi-pick/+merge/182278
[07:55] <oSoMoN> gusch: sure, will do
[10:26] <clepto1995> randomcpp, I find a workaround.. I changed the UI a bit :)
[10:26] <randomcpp> error on first launch file:///home/random/Projects/cnotes-ubuntu-touch/Storage.js:23: Error: no such table: notes Unable to execute statement
[10:28] <randomcpp> tip: in the creation page, the action "create"  should be something like "save"
[10:28] <clepto1995> randomcpp, did you get pasted the error?
[10:30] <randomcpp> tip: the add tags should a dialog no a pointless popup
[10:30] <clepto1995> randomcpp, why pointless? I prefer popup
[10:31] <randomcpp> clepto1995, I think a dialog is preferred by the HIGs
[10:31] <randomcpp> clepto1995, I can't save a new note
[10:31] <clepto1995> randomcpp, yes, for the user need to make a choice
[10:31] <randomcpp> file:///home/random/Projects/cnotes-ubuntu-touch/pages/CreateNotePage.qml:37: TypeError: Cannot read property '0' of undefined
[10:32] <randomcpp> I think that's caused by the first error
[10:32] <randomcpp> file:///home/random/Projects/cnotes-ubuntu-touch/Storage.js:23: Error: no such table: notes Unable to execute statement
[10:32] <randomcpp> no category has been loaded
[10:32] <randomcpp> and I can't add a new one either
[10:32] <clepto1995> randomcpp, wait a sec
[10:33] <clepto1995> randomcpp, comment line 156 in CNotes.qml
[10:33] <clepto1995> and run
[10:34] <randomcpp> oh now it works :)
[10:35] <randomcpp> category page is there yet, right?
[10:35] <clepto1995> randomcpp, for testing purposes close the app, uncomment the line and re-run
[10:35] <randomcpp> isn't*
[10:35] <clepto1995> randomcpp, its there but I don't if its works due to changes to the files structure and UI
[10:35] <randomcpp> clepto1995, it runs without errors, but I don't have the entry I've created
[10:36] <clepto1995> randomcpp, if you want to test the app properly please wait until the next upadte
[10:36] <randomcpp> okok
[10:36] <clepto1995> randomcpp, its all gone to work then except u1db and maybe links
[10:37] <dpm> hi m-b-o, good afternoon! We've got but we've got a session for Calculator & Weather at UDS today: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/2013-08-27/display? I'm telling you the same as I said to WebbyIT: if you are around and you'd like to participate, your input will be very useful! :)
[10:39] <m-b-o> hi dpm :)
[10:39] <dpm> hey :)
[10:40] <randomcpp> clepto1995, if you want you can test my app https://github.com/random-cpp/saucybacon
[10:40] <m-b-o> I'm at the office.. I'll try to follow on irc
[10:40] <randomcpp> I've got a really nice feature yesterday :)
[10:41] <clepto1995> randomcpp, I will as soon as I finished the convergence thing...
[10:46] <dpm> thanks m-b-o!
[11:41] <seb128> nic-doffay, hey
[11:41] <nic-doffay> seb128, hey
[11:41] <seb128> nic-doffay, do you have any news about the optionselector landing?
[11:41] <seb128> nic-doffay, we need it in other projects :/
[11:41] <nic-doffay> seb128, made another addition on friday
[11:42] <seb128> can't you just land it as it is and make addition in further iterations later?
[11:42] <nic-doffay> seb128, the subtext was one of the additions.
[11:42] <nic-doffay> Aswell as an icon for the wifi too.
[11:42] <nic-doffay> Which I assumed might be needed.
[11:42] <seb128> there is always stuff to improve/fix, that shouldn't block landing though
[11:42] <seb128> right, they are
[11:42] <seb128> but if they come later that's fine
[11:42] <nic-doffay> Either way kalikiana should be able to review it later today and it will land.
[11:43] <seb128> we better be blocked on some missing features than being blocked on starting using it at all
[11:43] <nic-doffay> As soon as he has a a moment.
[11:43] <seb128> ok, great
[11:43] <nic-doffay> seb128, I'll do my best to land it today.
[11:43] <seb128> thanks!
[11:43] <nic-doffay> the code is done at least.
[11:53] <GuidoPallemans> anyone here has any experience on changing the elements inside a repeater drastically?
[12:55] <clepto1995> is someone from the gallery app here?
[13:45] <GuidoPallemans> is it possible to set the background color of a page's title?
[13:55] <clepto1995> GuidoPallemans, try headerColor
[14:23] <GuidoPallemans> clepto1995: thanks!
[14:26] <GuidoPallemans> clepto1995: doesn't work
[14:30] <GuidoPallemans> I want my header bar to not be transparent, how can I do that?
[14:32] <clepto1995> GuidoPallemans, what you mean not to be transparent? It isn't
[14:33] <GuidoPallemans> it is :D
[14:33] <GuidoPallemans> I have a flickable that slides under the title
[14:33] <clepto1995> GuidoPallemans, thats another thing
[14:33] <GuidoPallemans> but it shouldn't, it should stop at the bottom of the title
[14:34] <clepto1995> GuidoPallemans, https://plus.google.com/101694416703170881163/posts/AGKekSoLTHw
[14:35] <GuidoPallemans> ah yes, thanks
[14:36] <clepto1995> :)
[14:37] <WebbyIT> dpm, thanks to help by boiko we have the fix for critical bug merged \o/
[14:37] <WebbyIT> https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/1179422/+merge/181010
[14:38] <dpm> \o/ WebbyIT, boiko, nice work!
[15:16] <GuidoPallemans> hey guys, join #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1
[15:46] <om26er> mhall119, hey, where can I see today's keynote ?
[15:46] <WebbyIT> hi christina :) Do you have a plot for the uds session or we will improvise?
[15:46] <mhall119> om26er: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21887/intro-and-keynote/
[15:47] <mhall119> om26er: if/when youtube is done processing it
[15:48] <om26er> mhall119, can you point me to a direct youtube link (if you can) youtube is blocked here so i'd use that link with a proxy
[15:49] <mhall119> om26er: http://www.youtube.com/embed/zMCxHYKjAx0
[15:49] <om26er> mhall119, thanks
[15:49] <mhall119> np
[15:49] <christina> WebbyIT, hello!!!
[15:49] <christina> WebbyIT, i have something prepared but we shall improvise :)
[15:50] <christina> WebbyIT, just something to go through how we came up with the concepts :) see you in a bit!
[15:50] <om26er> does anyone know how can I see which version of the touch image I have on my phone ?
[15:51] <WebbyIT> christina, sounds good :) See you soon!
[16:08] <dholbach> hello everybody - if you are interested in apps and hardware requirements, we're currently talking about it in http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21933/community-1308-app-story-hardware-requirements/
[16:08] <dholbach> and we're in #ubuntu-uds-community-1 as well
[16:10] <WebbyIT> christina_ dpm, can you send me a link for the hangout?
[16:11] <dpm> WebbyIT, done :)
[16:11] <WebbyIT> thanks dpm :)
[16:19] <hakermania> What signal should I catch in order to shutdown gracefully my application during shutdown? I can catch SIGHUP, SIGINT and SIGTERM, and I thought that these would be enough. When I use kill -15 PID my process exits gracefully, but not when I shutdown my pc normally
[16:20] <hakermania> I thought that SIGTERM (15) would be enough.
[17:13] <boiko> om26er: hi
[17:13] <om26er> boiko, hey
[17:13] <boiko> om26er: could you please give me some help understanding why this MR is failing: https://code.launchpad.net/~boiko/address-book-app/launch_dialer_and_messaging_reapply/+merge/182202
[17:14] <om26er> boiko, address-book-app : Depends: qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-telephony-plugin but it is not installable
[17:14] <om26er> that's cause of the failure on a maguro
[17:15] <boiko> om26er: ouch! the package changed name, sorry, I didn't notice that :/
[17:19] <om26er> boiko, what's the name of the new package ?
[17:19] <boiko> om26er: qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-telephony0.1
[17:20] <om26er> boiko, its fine till 0.1 (why the number in the package name btw?)
[17:20] <om26er> its like unity8  :p unity8 7.81 :D
[17:21] <boiko> om26er: well, that seems to be the naming scheme used by all qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-* packages
[17:25] <seb128> boiko, om26er: that's the abi version (the import number)
[17:25] <seb128> that's so we can do smooth transitions when the abi change
[17:25] <boiko> seb128: makes sense
[17:25] <seb128> by having different versions installed at the same time
[17:25] <seb128> what source has the issue?
[17:25] <seb128> boiko, I fixed dialer-app and messaging-app today
[17:26] <boiko> seb128: it is an MR on lp:address-book-app
[17:26] <boiko> seb128: already fixed it
[17:26] <seb128> or, address-book-app ... sorry, that one is not in the archive so we didn't catch it
[17:26] <seb128> boiko, great
[19:32] <boiko> om26er: hi, is this the test you fixed yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/1217307
[19:32] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1217307 in touch-preview-images "TestCommunicationPanel.test_send_button_disable_on_clear test failure on mako devices" [Undecided,New]
[19:32] <om26er> boiko, yes it is. Is that not fixed ?
[19:33] <boiko> om26er: I think it is, it is just missing a release
[19:33] <boiko> om26er: even if we are switching to the new apps for tomorrow image,we better get this fix released
[19:33] <om26er> boiko, how do we release a new package ?
[19:34] <om26er> there was auto release enabled for that project, not sure if it was re-enabled by francis as well
[19:34] <boiko> om26er: we have do debcommit a saucy series changelog entry, I'll do that and ask you to review/approve
[19:35] <boiko> om26er: it was in daily release, but we had to switch that off while libmessaging-menu from phablet was not yet in saucy
[19:35] <om26er> boiko, ah - ok
[19:35] <boiko> om26er: it could be re-enabled, but I don't think it is worth at this point
[19:35] <om26er> boiko, yeah, just do a manual release. I don't think there is going to be another release after this one
[19:36] <boiko> indeed
[19:40] <boiko> om26er: https://code.launchpad.net/~boiko/phone-app/release_0.59.24/+merge/182478
[19:41] <om26er> boiko, approved
[19:41] <boiko> om26er: thanks!
[19:49] <zyga> ok
[19:49] <zyga> mhall119: so let's talk here
[19:49] <mhall119> hi zyga!
[19:50] <mhall119> so I think we can safely assume python 2.7 for deployments of the api website
[19:50] <mhall119> I don't know about development environments though, I'd have to check what the 12.04 had
[19:50] <zyga> mhall119: you should fix your bzr author name
[19:51] <zyga> mhall119: you got one commit without your name I think
[19:51] <zyga> mhall119: it has 2.7
[19:51] <zyga> mhall119: so it's okay
[19:51] <mhall119> yeah, the one without my full name was probably done on a server
[19:51] <mhall119> my laptop is properly setup
[19:55] <zyga> mhall119: what's the license?
[19:55] <mhall119> zyga: AGPLv3
[19:55] <zyga> k
[19:56] <zyga> I'll add that too
[19:56] <zyga> mhall119: 3 or 3+?
[19:57] <mhall119> it's not specified yet, but 3+ would be best I think
[19:58] <mefrio> is there any gallery app developer?
[19:59] <mhall119> mefrio: try in #ubuntu-touch if they aren't in here
[19:59] <wellsb> i can't seem to change a gradient's colors dynamically by modifying a variable like I can a color.  Oh well.  There are other ways..
[19:59] <mefrio> mhall119, ok thanks
[20:00] <zyga> mhall119: first branch up
[20:00] <mhall119> \o/
[20:00] <zyga> mhall119: let me do a merge request
[20:01] <mhall119> it never fails, every time I start a new project the first contributions from other people are either a COPYING file or a setup.py file :)
[20:01] <zyga> https://code.launchpad.net/~zkrynicki/ubuntu-api-website/setup.py/+merge/182483
[20:02] <zyga> mhall119: I'll add COPYING now
[20:02] <mhall119> :)
[20:03] <zyga> mhall119: another branch up
[20:03]  * zyga loves using git-lp
[20:04] <zyga> https://code.launchpad.net/~zkrynicki/ubuntu-api-website/license/+merge/182484
[20:04] <zyga> mhall119: I'll do some basic code copyright cleanup and south work next
[20:04] <zyga> but now I need some food
[20:06] <mhall119> zyga: nice, thanks!
[20:08] <mhall119> zyga: both approved and merged
[20:13] <zyga> mhall119: cool
[20:15] <GuidoPallemans> mhall119: when will the new api website arrive?
[20:17] <mhall119> GuidoPallemans: when it's capable of replacing the static API docs we currently have
[20:18] <mhall119> before 13.10 I hope
[20:18] <GuidoPallemans> oh ok
[20:32] <GuidoPallemans> anyone ever had an error TypeError: Converting circular structure to JSON
[20:35] <GuidoPallemans> nik90_: do you work for ubuntu/canonical?
[20:59] <boiko> om26er_: is this a jenkins error or is it something else: https://code.launchpad.net/~boiko/address-book-app/launch_dialer_and_messaging_reapply/+merge/182202
[21:00] <om26er_> boiko, its different, internet stopped working on a device due to some reason
[21:00] <om26er_> i'll kick it
[21:00] <boiko> om26er_: thanks!
[21:03] <wellsb> Can somebody verify this bug report: Bug #1217578  I guess the temporary workaround is to create my own button w/ mousearea and rectangle
[21:03] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1217578 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Button does not reflect changes to GradientStop.color" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1217578
[21:06] <boiko> wellsb: if you are to create your own button, use an AbstractButton as a base, then you just need to implement the visual
[21:06] <boiko> wellsb: that until this gradient bug gets fixed
[21:07] <wellsb> Good idea
[21:34] <randomcpp> mhall119, ping
[21:34] <randomcpp> mefrio, ping you too
[21:34] <mefrio> randomcpp, pong
[21:35] <mhall119> randomcpp: pong
[21:36] <randomcpp> mhall119, do you have any documentation on how conditional layouts should be used?
[21:37] <mhall119> randomcpp: you mean from a design perspective or an implementation perspective?
[21:37] <randomcpp> implementation perspective, if there's a way it's mean to be coded
[21:38] <mhall119> http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/ubuntu-layouts.html has a 7-page walkthrough of how to do it
[21:38] <randomcpp> because at the moment I change some configuration simply based on a variable
[21:38] <mhall119> definitely read through all those pages I linkted to
[21:38] <mhall119> it's very comprehensive
[21:39] <mhall119> http://design.ubuntu.com/apps/get-started/responding-to-orientation has some design ideas
[21:40] <randomcpp> thanks
[21:41] <mhall119> np
[21:42] <randomcpp> because at the moment, in the recipe page view for example, I'm using a grid that changes the number of columns as the app width increment
[21:44] <mhall119> randomcpp: there's an example of doing exactly that I believe
[21:46] <randomcpp> yeah but I'm calculating the width of the children "manually", I shouldn't do this..
[22:11] <GuidoPallemans> does the scrollbar component work? I don't see it
[22:12] <GuidoPallemans> but it isnt giving any errors


[00:00] <len-dt> You should get a dialog window open up
[00:00] <ariel__> do you want a pastebin of the error messages?
[00:00] <len-dt> on the right side there is a buttom that says Interface
[00:01] <len-dt> is it still set to (default)?
[00:01] <ariel__> yes
[00:02] <ariel__> it's default
[00:02] <len-dt> To the right of that there is a > if you click that you will get a list of what jack sees for devices.
[00:02] <ariel__> yes
[00:03] <ariel__> hw:1 is the fast track pro
[00:03] <len-dt> That would be where yu select the USB device
[00:03] <len-dt> default is HW:0
[00:03] <ariel__> so i should pick hw:1 right?
[00:04] <len-dt> Yes.
[00:04] <ariel__> anything else?
[00:04] <len-dt> Then ok the dialog and start or restart jack
[00:04] <ariel__> ok
[00:04] <ariel__> now is working
[00:05] <len-dt> Does it have all the inputs and outputs?
[00:05] <len-dt> Open connections
[00:05] <ariel__> it has capture 1 and 2
[00:05] <len-dt> select the audio tab
[00:06] <len-dt> does it have playback as well?
[00:06] <ariel__> yes
[00:06] <ariel__> 1 and 2
[00:06] <len-dt> should it be 1-4?
[00:06] <len-dt> I don't know that unit at all
[00:06] <ariel__> it has 4 inputs
[00:07] <ariel__> but two of them are spdif
[00:07] <ariel__> i don't use them
[00:07] <len-dt> SO do you have all you need then?
[00:07] <ariel__> i think so
[00:08] <ariel__> one more question
[00:08] <len-dt> Good. You may need to remember that hw nunbers change from boot to boot sometimes.
[00:08] <ariel__> ah ok, it is normal that?
[00:08] <len-dt> So after a boot you may need to set the device in jack again.
[00:08] <ariel__> ok
[00:09] <len-dt> some video displays have sound outputs and most web cams do too.
[00:09] <len-dt> those can mess the setup up
[00:09] <ariel__> ok
[00:09] <ariel__> i will check then
[00:10] <len-dt> there is a way of setting the device up to have a name and select the name, but I don't remember how
[00:10] <ariel__> i also have a usb midi controller, a keyrig 49 that i use to play virtual instruments
[00:10] <len-dt> That should just work, mine does.
[00:10] <ariel__> how do i set it up?
[00:10] <ariel__> i have to make some moves with jack?
[00:11] <len-dt> plug it in and it should just show up in the ALSA window of connections.
[00:11] <ariel__> yes it is
[00:11] <ariel__> so its ready?
[00:11] <len-dt> If you have some stuff that uses jack midi, then run a2j to bridge them.
[00:12] <ariel__> a2j?
[00:12] <len-dt> If you can see the connector in qjackctl it is ready to use
[00:12] <ariel__> ok
[00:12] <len-dt> the connections window has two tabs called alsa and midi. a2j bridges them.
[00:13] <len-dt> So that all the midi connections in alsa show up in MIDI as well
[00:13] <ariel__> but i have to make a conection or there is no need?
[00:13] <len-dt> Some synths only show in the midi panel.
[00:14] <len-dt> Click on the source (you usb midi) and the program you want to connect it to.
[00:14] <len-dt> then hit the connect button.
[00:14] <ariel__> i just opened the foo yc20
[00:14] <ariel__> it only apears at the midi tab
[00:14] <ariel__> but my keyrig its in alsa
[00:15] <len-dt> in a terminal type a2j -e
[00:15] <ariel__> yes, now appears in midi also
[00:15] <ariel__> a2j
[00:16] <len-dt> click on the triangle
[00:16] <ariel__> yes
[00:16] <len-dt> You should see you midi IF
[00:16] <ariel__> midi through
[00:17] <len-dt> di you start a2j with the -e switch?
[00:17] <ariel__> yes
[00:17] <ariel__> i typed what you told me
[00:17] <len-dt> odd.. normally that works.
[00:18] <ariel__> what is supposed to happen?
[00:18] <len-dt> a2j should have both through and your IF in the MIDI tab
[00:19] <ariel__> oh
[00:19] <ariel__> can it be fixed?
[00:19] <len-dt> I am sure it can
[00:20] <len-dt> It is just that it just works for me :)
[00:20] <ariel__> so what should i do?
[00:21] <len-dt> I would try restarting a2j first
[00:21] <ariel__> ok
[00:21] <len-dt> you may have to stop it first
[00:21] <ariel__> yes
[00:22] <ariel__> how?
[00:22] <len-dt> a2j_control exit
[00:22] <ariel__> ready
[00:23] <len-dt> try a2jmidid -e
[00:24] <ariel__> error!
[00:24] <len-dt> opps.
[00:25] <ariel__> it says a2j_alsa_connect_from: can't subscribe to 16:0
[00:25] <ariel__> resource temporary unavailable
[00:25] <ariel__> port skipped: keyrig 49
[00:25] <len-dt> Instead of a2j lets try the jack midi driver.
[00:25] <ariel__> ok
[00:26] <len-dt> maybe do a killall -9 a2j just to be sure.
[00:26] <len-dt> then open the qjackctl setup again
[00:27] <len-dt> at the bottom, there is a midi driver box that right now says none
[00:27] <ariel__> i'm there
[00:27] <len-dt> it used to be on the left bottom but I see mine is on the right
[00:27] <ariel__> yes, in my case it is in raw
[00:28] <ariel__> maybe that is why a2j didnt work
[00:28] <len-dt> Ya.
[00:28] <ariel__> i will try again
[00:28] <ariel__> nop
[00:29] <ariel__> still doesnt who if
[00:29] <ariel__> midi if
[00:29] <len-dt> RAw should have already put your midi port in the MIDI tab with out a2j
[00:30] <ariel__> lets see
[00:30] <ariel__> midi capture
[00:30] <ariel__> 1 and 2
[00:31] <len-dt> One may be the through. Jack doesn't give nice labels like a2j
[00:33] <len-dt> They are numbered in the order they apear in the alsa tab
[00:34] <ariel__> in the output tab or input tab?
[00:36] <ariel__> on my left i have the output ports
[00:36] <ariel__> it says 14:Midi through
[00:36] <ariel__> 16:KeyRig 49
[00:37] <ariel__> 20:Fast track pro
[00:37] <ariel__> on my right just 14:midi through and then 20: fast track pro
[00:44] <len-dt> I'm sorry, I will have to go (family outing) do try #opensourcemusicians
[00:44] <len-dt> And maybe if ailo or holstein are around they can talk to you
[00:45] <ariel__> ok
[00:45] <ariel__> thank you!


[02:05] <holstein> jussi: you mind to update the topic, when you get a minute :)
[02:05] <holstein> the the other channel *
[05:17] <holstein> strange bird*
[07:26]  * abogani waves all
[07:26] <abogani> ailo: ping
[07:30] <ailo> abogani, pong
[07:31] <abogani> ailo: May I remove the 39-lowlatency kernel?
[07:34] <ailo> abogani, On my behalf, yes.
[07:35] <abogani> ailo: Ok thanks!
[07:35] <ailo> abogani, I believe there are other testers building their own anyway
[07:36] <ailo> And I was never able to get anyone suffering from irq share to test it, so..
[07:43] <abogani> ailo: Both are good reasons to delete it.
[15:13] <holstein> ailo: you have any ideas about how to fake IRQ problems?
[15:13] <holstein> i have a laptop
[15:13] <holstein> ha*
[15:13] <holstein> had*
[15:13] <holstein> it had the firewire port shared with a few USB ports
[15:13] <ailo> holstein, Good point. I never thought of that. Maybe it's possible to do with pci cards at least
[15:13] <holstein> but, i havent been able to make it boot
[15:14] <holstein> i think its totally dead
[15:14] <ailo> holstein, I believe abogani already removed the 39 kernel
[15:16] <ailo> holstein, But, if you have time, you could do some comparison testing between -generic and -lowlatency
[15:16] <holstein> ailo: yeah
[15:16] <ailo> holstein, Preferably 2.6.38-8
[15:16] <holstein> i'll make time for that*
[15:16] <holstein> im stoked to be zeroing in on whatever we are going to do for 12.04 :)
[15:17] <ailo> holstein, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/generic_vs_lowlatency_test_results
[18:44] <astraljava> ailo: That's interesting! How did you execute the test?
[18:45] <ailo> astraljava, Not very scientific https://wiki.ubuntu.com/generic_vs_lowlatency_testing
[18:46] <ailo> astraljava, Just running a simple ardour session while loading the CPU to max compressing a file and opening a graphic program
[18:47] <ailo> I would need to test more to confirm my results
[18:47] <ailo> Would be interesting to see more machines and sound devices
[19:12] <astraljava> ailo: Okay, thanks for that. I'll see if I can participate at some point.
[19:13] <astraljava> I thought I saw abogani talking about an automated test at some point, but I guess it hasn't realized yet.
[19:14] <ailo> astraljava, There's been talk about making a script to automate the test. I have used a puredata patch to stress the CPU, but the effect is the same as doing that manually by compressing a file and opening programs
[19:15] <ailo> A script could be handy. One could leave the computer for some hours to do the test.
[19:16] <ailo> astraljava, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/generic_vs_lowlatency_test_script
[19:17] <ailo> A guy with nick meganerd was interested in creating the script, but hasn't been around for a while
[19:18] <ailo> astraljava, I guess the biggest problem is getting people to participate in testing. A script could perhaps make that easier.
[19:26] <astraljava> ailo: Honestly, it would, and also it would make the test process more coherent and reliable.
[19:28] <ailo> astraljava, Here are some older tests
[19:29] <ailo> astraljava, As you can see, -generic was giving very different results at different times, using the same kernel 2.6.38-1
[19:29] <ailo> astraljava, something else than the kernel was causing a different performance for the -generic 2.6.38-1 kernel between updates
[19:30] <ailo> astraljava, To do reliable testing, I suppose we would need to do periodic testing over a lenghty period of time.
[19:31] <astraljava> ailo: That's what I'm thinking, and that's where the automation comes in handy. No human can do such with needed reliability and resilience.
[19:32] <ailo> astraljava, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime
[19:32] <ailo> Sorry, I missed I hadn't pasted the link
[19:33] <astraljava> ailo: Nevermind, I know that page too well. I was gonna say it's time to put my scripting skills under rehearsing, but then I've caved in to pressure from the outside so many times before, I feel it's not fair to the project to make any promises anymore.
[19:34] <ailo> Might be a good idea to test Natty and Oneiric both for 1/2
[19:34] <ailo> 1/2 year
[19:34] <ailo> astraljava, I would do it, but I'm not able right now
[19:34] <ailo> astraljava, In one or two months, mayve
[19:34] <ailo> maybe*
[19:36] <astraljava> Well, you seem to have ideas, so I hope you can at least be a part of the designing process at the start of this coming devel cycle.
[19:38] <ailo> astraljava, I'm writing a new version for ubuntustudio-controls, which I don't know whether it will be needed. I'll want to look at what falktx has done and see how that could be used in US. I will also work on documentation with ScottL, which is a big project as well
[19:40] <ailo> Right now I'm coding puredata patches for my band. We have some gigs coming up this summer
[19:43] <astraljava> ailo: Awesome! Wish I was doing stuff with music as well. Well, gonna try over the summer, but let's see how it goes.
[19:44] <ailo> astraljava, For me, what seems like a heart issue, is making sure anyone installing Ubuntu can make it audio friendly as easily as possible. Many posts on forums are about setting up the system for audio, and getting audio devices to work. I would like to remove some of those obstacles.
[19:45] <ailo> falktx has done some really nice work on some things on KXStudio, that I think deserve some attentions as well
[19:47] <ailo> astraljava, Have you seen this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
[19:48] <ailo> astraljava, ScottL has been working on some things to try make things easier for new users
[19:48] <scott-work> ailo: i whole heartedly agree with falkx doing good work and needing some more attention
[19:51] <astraljava> ailo: Yes I've seen that. And I agree with ya, audio is close to my heart as well, I find few things in life more precious than music. Also falktx, and many people involved with this project are doing a spectacular work.
[19:54] <ailo> I suppose most of the plans are covered here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/ReleasePlanning
[19:55] <astraljava> Good to remind me about that, haven't taken a look at that in ages.
[20:10] <scott-work> ailo: didn't you have a link at one time for the screen shot of edubuntu where it let the user choose applications to install?
[20:11] <scott-work> ailo: nevermind, found it :)
[20:11] <scott-work> http://www.edubuntu.com/sites/default/files/docimages/035-edubuntu-options-natty.png
[20:20] <ailo> scott-work, I haven't seen that before...
[20:21] <scott-work> maybe it was cory then
[20:21] <scott-work> i had seen it on planet ubuntu


[08:17] <RikMills> what build score do snap builds get compared to others? builds do not seem to show it
[08:18] <RikMills> just curious
[08:50] <ilasc> RikMills: I'm not an expert in the area but by looking at the code: currently snap builds get a score of 2510 plus any relative build score for their source archive
[08:54] <RikMills> thanks, so basically same as personal PPA
[13:24] <cjwatson> CSS and JavaScript assets are temporarily missing on bazaar.launchpad.net following a deployment; this was expected due to a change in the way we deploy that application, and we're just waiting for IS to update a symlink for us.
[13:53] <cjwatson> Fixed now (though now I notice a bug in how it reports its version at the bottom of the page, bah, will fix)
[14:54] <rbasak> So I started a second batch of universe imports today, and interestingly they're running three times faster than yesterday, for no apparent reason.
[14:54] <rbasak> But no matter - the pace is OK for me either way.


[08:05] <PCdude> I have problems with installing openstack on ubuntu, it fails when the installer uses JUJU an node to bootstrap
[08:05] <PCdude> anyone here who can help?
[09:52] <PCdude> I have problems with installing openstack on ubuntu, it fails when the installer uses JUJU an node to bootstrap
[09:52] <PCdude> anyone here who can help?
[14:14] <PCdude> http://askubuntu.com/questions/817572/openstack-fails-to-install-caused-by-juju
[18:37] <magicaltrout> anybody tried xenial maas on virtualbox?