[10:07] <primes2h> kwwii: Hi, I would like to ask you something about human-icon-theme, please :-)
[10:07] <kwwii> primes2h: sure, shoot
[10:08] <kwwii> I was thinking about the translation issues...to be honest my specialty is artwork and such, not internationalization
[10:08] <kwwii> there might be someone who could help you much more/quicker than I can
[10:09] <primes2h> When I build human-icon-theme (e.g. ./autogen.sh and make) it doesn't update automatically po files.
[10:09] <primes2h> I need to do it manually going to po/ directory giving make update-po. Is it normaò?
[10:09] <primes2h> normal?
[10:09] <kwwii> erm, exactly that kind of stuff is what I really don't understand
[10:09] <primes2h> ah, ok :-)
[10:10] <primes2h> who is a specialist of this ?
[10:10] <primes2h> ;-)
[10:10] <kwwii> someone in ubuntu-devel could help more (seb128 would be a good start)
[10:10] <kwwii> #ubuntu-devel
[10:10] <primes2h> ok, thanks. about icons I would like to ask you somrthing..
[10:10] <primes2h> different
[10:10] <kwwii> sure
[10:11] <primes2h> There is an emblems that in someway is broken.
[10:12] <kwwii> I can probably help with that :-) what is the exact problem?
[10:12] <primes2h> Hold on, I'll tell you the name...
[10:14] <primes2h> kwwii: stockmail-priority-high
[10:15] <primes2h> when you are dragging it no icon appears....
[10:16] <primes2h> it has the same icon as important emblems icon.
[10:16] <kwwii> let me look into it, one second
[10:16] <primes2h> the strange things is that it's not mentioned in scalable/emblems/
[10:17] <primes2h> it's not present in it.
[10:17] <primes2h> and there is an underline on the "m"
[10:18] <kwwii> my guess is that it is not included in the makefile and is therefor not installed when building the package
[10:19] <kwwii> sorry, I am doing three things at once, give me a minute
[10:19] <primes2h> no problem , I'll wait :-)
[10:21] <kwwii> hrm, this is not in the human theme
[10:21] <kwwii> maybe it is just a symbolic link, one second
[10:22] <kwwii> nope
[10:22] <kwwii> I am guessing that it is not in the human theme
[10:23] <primes2h> but it takes the same icon as important.
[10:23] <primes2h> "important"
[10:23] <primes2h> did you see?
[10:24] <primes2h> I faced it because using my patch, you get two identical  "important" emblems
[10:24] <primes2h> dupe
[10:25] <kwwii> the orange icon with an exclamation point?
[10:25] <primes2h> with "important" instead of "stockmail-priority-high in the text...
[10:26] <primes2h> yes.
[10:26] <kwwii> ahhh, now I see it in the interface
[10:27] <primes2h> As I was telling you, using my patch you get two exclamation point icons with "Important" in the text
[10:28] <kwwii> wow
[10:28] <kwwii> freakky
[10:28] <primes2h> Looking at the original version, I saw the issue...
[10:28] <kwwii> when I click on it, it changes to another icon I made for jockey which does *not* belong there
[10:29] <primes2h> yep
[10:29] <kwwii> this seems to be an issue for the interface and not the icons
[10:29] <kwwii> that is really wierd
[10:29] <kwwii> thanks for bringing this up
[10:29] <kwwii> can you create a bug and assign myself (kwwii) and seb128 please?
[10:30] <primes2h> ok, but we need to coordinate all to bring internationalization patch too.
[10:31] <kwwii> right
[10:31] <kwwii> you can file a bug for that as well
[10:31] <kwwii> :-)
[10:31] <kwwii> bugs are the way to push us canonical employees to get what you want :p
[10:31] <primes2h> it's already reported bug #172353
[10:31] <kwwii> oh right
[10:31] <kwwii> I forgot
[10:31] <primes2h> A last thing.
[10:32] <primes2h> Did you see a jockey icon when you push it?
[10:32] <primes2h> I see a sort of blank sheet
[10:33] <primes2h> of paper
[10:36] <kwwii> looks normal here
[10:36] <kwwii> I am guessing you changed the size and that icon does not exist at that size
[10:37] <kwwii> teh jockey icon does not belong there to begin with though :-)
[10:39] <primes2h> In fact when I click on jockey icons it appears the same sheet of paper too...
[10:40] <kwwii> very strange
[10:41] <kwwii> seems like some wierd name space error or such
[10:41] <kwwii> or perhaps just a mistake in the interface
[10:41] <kwwii> not sure
[10:44] <primes2h> There is another strange thing. There are some icons (Download, default etc.. ) that are not in scalable/emblems/directory but they are translated. It seems that they fallback from gnome-icon-theme (which has internationalization)
[10:44] <primes2h> But they are not broken..
[10:44] <primes2h> if you click on them the icon is correct.
[10:56] <kwwii> well, do they exist as pixmaps in the different dirs?
[10:57] <kwwii> there are quite a few human icons that we do not have scalable versions of
[10:59] <primes2h> oh, yes, they are.
[10:59] <primes2h> That's ok.
[11:00] <kwwii> dealing with icon themes can get quite tricky
[11:00] <primes2h> :-)
[11:02] <primes2h> I still don't understand why they fallback to gome-icon internationalization but it doesn't happen with the scalable ones.
[11:02] <primes2h> at least those with the same name.
[11:03] <kwwii> I don't understand that either
[11:03] <kwwii> internationalization is big and scary :p I know pretty much nothing about how it all works
[11:04] <kwwii> ouch, I get the feeling that seb128 is on vacation
[11:05] <kwwii> if you cannot find him in the #ubuntu-devel channel ask pitti
[11:06] <primes2h> ok, thanks. About the new bug, do i have to add seb128 or pitti instead?
[11:07] <kwwii> seb128 would be best as he works on the gnome desktop
[11:07] <kwwii> but pitti is a good fallback as he is seb's boss :)
[11:07] <kwwii> well, not boss, but technical lead
[11:07] <kwwii> so he can figure out who to push this on
[11:17] <primes2h> so , due to seb128 vacation, I'll put pitti and you on the new bug.. :-)
[11:18] <primes2h> or maybe both... ;-)
[11:18] <primes2h> pitti and seb128
[11:31] <kwwii> cool
[11:39] <primes2h> kwwii: I opened this bug #319991. Have a look and feel free to add any other special comment...
[11:39] <kwwii> primes2h: excellent, thanks
[11:40] <primes2h> kwwii: Thank you too!
[11:41] <kwwii> primes2h: it's really great that someone is interested in this stuff, I would never have noticed - I don't use emblems :p
[13:00] <primes2h> kwwii: I faced this because I'm a member of Italian Ubuntu Translator team, and It's bad to have some part of Ubuntu untranslated, like emblems :P
[13:01] <kwwii> primes2h: cool...in the meantime I have mentioned this to pitti so he has a heads up on what is coming
[13:03] <primes2h> kwwii: That's nice! Now I'm going to ask him about po regeneration issue..
[13:05] <kwwii> good idea, have fun!
[13:06] <primes2h> Thank you indeed for your help. It's nice to find collaborative people like you...
[13:07] <kwwii> :) I hope that there are many others just like me - or ubuntu won't keep being what it is today!
[13:07] <primes2h> I'm surprised once more about this Ubuntu spirit ;-)
[13:09] <primes2h> Oh, sure... a lot :-)
[13:17] <kwwii> mpt: wanna see a really wierd bug? right click on a folder and open the emblems tab, then select the stockmail-priority-high emblem
[13:17] <kwwii> oops
[13:17] <kwwii> wrong channel
[13:17]  * _MMA_ waves
[13:20] <kwwii> hey man
[13:20]  * kwwii gets lunch
[13:23] <primes2h> kwwii: I tried it but it seems normal...
[21:24] <tretle_> cimi?
[21:28] <tretle_> doesn anyone know if its possible to have two seperate colors for the input box's and the treeviews etc?
[21:31] <Cimi> ?
[21:33] <tretle_> yeah, I was going to ask you about gtk colors and the dialog box's, was thinking of leaving it on your site under feature requests but decided it would be much faster to just ask you on irc
[21:33] <Flaw> Hi, is anyone here 'good' with gradients?
[21:34] <tretle_> so do you know of any way of having seperate colors for treeviews and dialog box's? I would like the treeviews etc to use a dark color and bright text but I would like the dialog box's to use white bg color on black text to keep visual consistency with websites
[21:35] <tretle_> right now from the looks of it the treeviews and dialog box's share the same pallet
[21:36] <Flaw> http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9153/bodybgti3.jpg
[21:36] <Flaw> I need that but in green, would anyone be able to do that?
[21:45] <Cimi> tretle_, you just need to change base and text for gtkentry
[21:45] <tretle_> cool
[21:46] <SealV> Flaw you could just open it in Gimp and colorize it
[21:49] <Flaw> SealV: I don't have much experience with graphics, I usually only do coding on websites.
[21:50] <SealV> gimme a sec, let me try my luck. could you point to a green that you like/want?
[21:51] <Flaw> It just needs to be green (royal green would be a good choice) but in a gradient, light to dark, starting nearly white.
[21:51] <Flaw> Like the blue one.
[21:52] <Flaw> I've tried using colorize but I get blocks of colour, not a gradient
[21:56] <SealV> making an svg
[22:02] <SealV> http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9914/g3704ep6.png
[22:02] <SealV> colors are changable very easily now that its an svg
[22:07] <Flaw> SealV: what's the white on the side?
[22:08] <Flaw> this image is being repeated vertically, so it doesn't look too good
[22:10] <SealV> is the white part not supposed to be there? I just imported the png and worked from there, but no worries.
[22:10] <SealV> http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/651/rect2920py4.png
[22:11] <Flaw> SealV: sorry, i confused you.
[22:11] <SealV> no worries :)
[22:11] <Flaw> the white bit at the top is sup post to be there, just not the white bit on either side
[22:12] <SealV> no whit bit to the sides.. let me check
[22:12] <Flaw> on the first one you posted there was.
[22:12] <SealV> bloody strokes
[22:12] <Flaw> sorry!
[22:12] <SealV> hold on I see the prob
[22:13] <SealV> its the default setting of inkscape
[22:13] <Flaw> the white bit at the top is suppose to be there, just not the bit on either sides
[22:23] <SealV> http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7091/g3750qf7.png
[22:23] <SealV> try that
[22:26] <Flaw> thanks! that looks great.


 @The_LoudSpeaker [@tsimonq2 does this necessarily have to be together with nm-tray?], Not necessarily
 It may be
 @tsimonq2 [^ agaida's distro :P], Can I try it
[01:44] <wxl> i don't know. can you?
 @ItzSwirlz [Can I try it], +1
[06:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf28fd0d758c3: Add oxford comma] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf28fd0d758c3
[06:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL0b393fbdbbdb: Update wording of buttons on top right corner] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL0b393fbdbbdb
[07:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4f535b8cf689: Add how to reDecorate a window] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4f535b8cf689
[07:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa94e692eea33: Update Runner summary] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa94e692eea33
[07:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe96dd8d81b13: Add note about show on focused screen option of runner] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe96dd8d81b13
[08:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9ac8b9a323b5: Reword using shortcut] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9ac8b9a323b5
 https://github.com/lubuntu-dev
 Those lines below title
 😱
 wxl:
 We know
 It's a whole thing
 FOSSASIA claims they own the Lubuntu project when they don't contribute at all
 So when we told them to contribute or knock it off, they played the "you're harassing us because we're Asian" card
 Notice that none of us works for Canonical and yet they're trying to characterize it as a Canonical takeover
 If you were to even have a conversation with me you'd know how pro-community I am, let alone the rest of the team
 @tsimonq2 [If you were to even have a conversation with me you'd know how pro-community I a …], I know.
 @tsimonq2 [So when we told them to contribute or knock it off, they played the "you're hara …], Wtff!!!
 And how can they "own" Lubuntu? One of the founders?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [And how can they "own" Lubuntu? One of the founders?], Mario cofounded it with Julien but didn't contribute past like 2010?
 Gg
 Yeah, it's fun...
 But that description they put to there... Not for for new people searching Lubuntu on github.
 And such publicly mentioning wxl. Could have been done better.
 Agreed
 It seems very personal. I'd prefer whole team's name or our website name there.
 We should all then to remove wxl's name.
 We should request them to remove wxl's name.
 *murders the alive slide typing*
 Rey wxl: you sleeping or what? People here are telling me you are harassing them.
[18:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rQTERMWIDGETPACKAGING6c031a4cc1fd: Fix version in symbols] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rQTERMWIDGETPACKAGING6c031a4cc1fd
 @tsimonq2 @kc2bez @aptghetto ^ that could solve the symbols issue in libfm-qt?
 in ci
 yes, essentially the same process more or less. sorry I haven't had much time to dive into it.
 me neither, haven't even read about that. But this should/could solbve the issue or the same should be done form libfm-qt?
 the secret lies in the build log. it should indicate what symbols are missing.
[19:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T54: Properly implement different wallpapers for different monitors] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T54#2774
 Libfm-qt has its own symbols file, which you need to modify
 Maybe agaida fixed it in salsa.debian.org?
 good point! could be, but I believe that he onñy package releases for debian. Will look at it.
[21:11] <kc2bez> Oh wow 21:11 UTC
[21:12] <kc2bez> !standup
[21:12] <wxl> aw jeez
[21:13] <guiverc> o/
 \o
[21:16] <kc2bez> Shall we start wxl ?
[21:18] <kc2bez> Ok let's get going. guiverc what is new this week?
[21:18] <wxl> sorry work distractions but yes
[21:18] <kc2bez> no worries wxl
[21:18] <wxl> i've got an appointment coming any minute now
[21:18] <kc2bez> ok
[21:18] <guiverc> support as i see it, minor testing including a quirk where I've an old nvidia box that doesn't appear to like flurry?  (jerky) - nthing else
[21:19] <guiverc> not much to report sorry (or as usual)
[21:19] <wxl> bbl :/
[21:19] <kc2bez> Thanks Chris, your work is appreciated.
[21:19] <kc2bez> sounds good wxl
 All I have to report is that I started the nomination process for the Lubuntu Council
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/council-elections/202001/
[21:20] <kc2bez> Thanks @tsimonq2
[21:20] <kc2bez> You gave me something else to work on tonight ;)
 I have mainly just been editing
 Edited Window management … Edited Runner … many typo and stylistic fixes … work on lximage for styling buttons
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> You gave me something else to work on tonight ;)], Nicee
[21:22] <kc2bez> That is awesome lynorian ! Anything else to report?
 no just mainly been editing I don't really have a vm install of changes to 20.04 yet for some reason kvm modules are not enabling from my firmware and it is frustrating for running vms
 oh I just found a problem where I messed up and used the wrong screenshot
[21:25] <kc2bez> Thanks for your continued effort, the manual is fantastic!
[21:26] <kc2bez> Here is my paste.
[21:26] <guiverc> I second that (manual is fantastic)
[21:26] <kc2bez> * Was on BDLL for the Lubuntu challenge review 11/23/2019
[21:26] <kc2bez> * My notes from that are here https://notes.lubuntu.me/P1zIrfatQjWLFQJVadSOrw#
[21:26] <kc2bez> * Worked on welcome center to get it to compile. It does so now.
[21:26] <kc2bez> * Made comments on the task https://phab.lubuntu.me/T17
[21:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Write a Welcome Center: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T17
[21:26] <kc2bez> * Packaged Calamares for new upstream release <IP_ADDRESS> https://phab.lubuntu.me/D64
[21:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Package Calamares for new upstream release.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D64
[21:26] <kc2bez> * Created wallpaper contest post in discourse https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/focal-fossa-20-04-lts-wallpaper-competition/566
[21:26] <kc2bez> * And blogged about it https://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-focal-fossa-20-04-lts-wallpaper-contest/
[21:26] <kc2bez> * TODO
[21:26] <kc2bez> * Tweet/Toot/Telegram the wallpaper contest.
 * Put your name in for Lubuntu Council
 😆
[21:28] <kc2bez> I need to ammend that, yes :)
[21:28] <kc2bez> I wrote my paste before that came out.
[21:29] <kc2bez> That is it from me.
[21:29] <kc2bez> Anyone else?
[21:30] <guiverc> Thanks for your work kc2bez & lynorian
 hi
[21:40] <kc2bez> Hi Hans.
 should I speak?
[21:41] <kc2bez> Sure. Go for it.
 or someone else is in?
[21:42] <kc2bez> It has been quiet so go for it.
 ok bassically 2 things since I haven't attend in long time (because of protest here in Chile during this time I was normally comuting)
 first, I'm waiting for @tsimonq2 to retest redshift-qt packaging, we already have ITP and is in the changelog
 second, I did pull request for pcmanfm-qt so it can support multimonitor wallpaper.
 ;
[21:44] <kc2bez> That is fantastic! Thank you for your work!
[21:44] <guiverc> :)  on multimonitor wallpaper
 (Photo, 604x458) https://i.imgur.com/H3VRRAG.jpg this is how it will be handled
 actually desktop-preferences ui is having a major overhaul, there aren't the option to use wm menu on right-clik
 on advanced tab there is only the option to select which icons to show.
[21:53] <kc2bez> that is really cool
[21:54] <kc2bez> I know that will be well received.
[22:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2ee49a3af8fa: Fix broken screenshots for first boot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2ee49a3af8fa
[22:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1ca9518d0ff0: Fix broken screenshots for first boot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1ca9518d0ff0
 Now it's in tsujan hands..
[22:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL03226344184b: Add stub of Update notifier] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL03226344184b
[22:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6d19f38e9d9f: Add How to Launch section for Update Notifer] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6d19f38e9d9f
 @HMollerCl [Now it's in tsujan hands..], You got a thank you in your PR so that seems like a good sign.
[22:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9369ea9b5a7c: Start Usage of Update Notifier] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9369ea9b5a7c
[22:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4e00628f8a84: Add close button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4e00628f8a84


[16:57] <l3on> mdke: are you there?
[16:57] <mdke> l3on: (In case I'm not around at the moment, please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I get back)
[18:21] <LinuxMonkey> sup everyone
[18:24] <sommer> yo
[18:34] <LinuxMonkey> im bored.lol


[08:06] <Quantos> I have a problem that my USB headset doesn't work in LUbuntu 15.10
[08:06] <Quantos> My speakers work fine
[08:07] <Quantos> And the headset is recognized when I plug it in, I ran term and ran dmesg
[16:58] <poungi> hello friend


[07:45] <ePierre> Hi everyone
[08:59] <Odd_Bloke> Hello all. I'm hitting "No space left on device" when trying to build a binary image in a livefs.
[08:59] <Odd_Bloke> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/192466114/buildlog_ubuntu_vivid_amd64_daniel-thewatkins-test_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz is the buildlog in question.
[09:01] <Odd_Bloke> I'm trying to build a ext4 disk image; I was building the image directly in the chroot stage, but live-build only supports disk labelling in the binary pass.
[09:31] <wgrant> Odd_Bloke: Creating filesystem with 196351 4k blocks and 49152 inodes
[09:31] <wgrant> That's 766MiB.
[09:31] <wgrant> Is it conceivable that you're exceeding that size?
[09:32] <Odd_Bloke> wgrant: It is conceivable, yes; though that's about the size I would expect the image to be.
[09:35] <wgrant> Odd_Bloke: Perhaps tweak livecd-rootfs to create a bigger ext4 image.
[09:36] <Odd_Bloke> wgrant: It looks like it's live-build that does that sizing;
[09:36] <Odd_Bloke> Line 131 of lb_binary_hdd does a 'du -ms binary'.
[09:37] <wgrant> Odd_Bloke: I know very little about livecd-rootfs, I'm afraid, but perhaps it underestimates the required image size for your case.
[09:38] <wgrant> Consider hacking in a bit of a buffer to see if that works.
[09:38] <Odd_Bloke> wgrant: Thanks for the pointer; will have a play around and see what I can do. :)
[09:39] <wgrant> Let me know how it goes.
[11:02] <Odd_Bloke> wgrant: Doubling the size of the disk has fixed the issue.
[11:28] <Odd_Bloke> And after fixing another issue... Launchpad doesn't seem to have my binary HDD image as a built file.
[11:28]  * Odd_Bloke investigates.
[11:29] <cjwatson> You basically just need to cause it to emit a non-symlink file whose name starts with "livecd."
[11:29] <cjwatson> livecd-rootfs/live-build/auto/build does a bunch of copying to that end
[12:52] <sergio-br2> hello
[12:52] <sergio-br2> I'm having problem to build this package in launchpad
[12:52] <sergio-br2> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/192654684/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-armhf.libretro-gpsp_0.9%2Br200~3~ubuntu14.04.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[12:52] <sergio-br2> I can build it in one ARM board, but in launchpad it gets these can't resolve `.jit' {.jit section}  errors
[14:08] <dobey> sergio-br2: have you tried building locally under qemu?
[14:33] <sergio-br2> nope
[14:37] <dobey> sergio-br2: first suggestion would be to try that. if you get the same problem, maybe there's a bug in qemu that's causing it
[14:37] <sergio-br2> :/
[14:38] <sergio-br2> ok
[14:38]  * sergio-br2 needs to learn about qemu
[14:38] <sergio-br2> if I build locally, and send with dput, launchpad build again or it only take the binary + source ?
[14:39] <dobey> you can only upload source packages to launchpad, so yes, it will have to build again
[14:42] <teward> are there any plans to let Debian builds into the PPAs, or is that still not a thing yet?
[14:42] <teward> (at the very least i can spin up my own repo server for Debian builds, and build in `sbuild` schroots
[14:42] <teward> so that's not as huge a priority, but I was wondering)
[14:43] <dobey> i don't think it's being worked on yet
[14:43] <teward> that's what i assumed - i was just curious :)