[06:57] <unko> YankDownUnder, ok thanks for the advice im gonna try it and see what happens
[06:57] <YankDownUnder> nyuszika7h, Um...have you bothered to read the grub2 documentation?
[06:57] <unko> and bcbc2 i'll look at that also
[06:57] <nyuszika7h> YankDownUnder: I don't even know where's it :/
[06:57] <YankDownUnder> unko, When you go looking for the HIrens CD, make sure you get version 9.9 -> the new versions don't have all the great utils that 9.9 has...
[06:58] <unko> YankDownUnder, ok so get 9.9 only
[06:58] <YankDownUnder> !grub2 | nyuszika7h
[07:00] <unko> YankDownUnder, daym... Hirens liveCD is now at V13.1 should i still go with 9.9?
[07:00] <oddie> ? list
[07:00] <YankDownUnder> unko, Yeah mate...best one yet...(I've tried them all, have to always check 'em cuz I use 'em for biz)
[07:01] <unko> ok, if this works man i owe you one
[07:02] <gogglesdonada> is there any reason why my maverick upgrade should take 12 hours to finish? looking at the system monitor my cpu in use is @ 20% (both cores), and about 400MB/4GB in use. This is for installing not downloading..
[07:03] <unko> gogglesdonada, check terminal out put for hangs
[07:04] <unko> YankDownUnder, hey can you point me to a legit 9.9 download? googles not giving me much to work with and if im gonna download it i have to make sure it works im on a android tethered network and it's well... not the fastest 100kBs max haha
[07:04] <saganbyte> where can i get a netbook with ubuntu pre-installed?
[07:07] <marvin> i set up a dual boot with windows with a third partition for file sharing between them but i want it to auto mount and i am not sure if /etc/fstab or gigolo would be better or how to do so on either one
[07:08] <raido> marvin: do it in fstab and set it to auto, easypeasy
[07:09] <starkiller> 11.04 is slow!
[07:09] <starkiller> better 10.10
[07:09] <BestKeptSecret> starkiller what's your specs?
[07:09] <awkisopen> Occasionally, when resuming from sleep, my laptop crashes about 10 seconds in (e.g. I get to the unlock screen but eventually it freezes up). Is this a common problem? Is there a known solution? Thanks :)
[07:09] <raido> starkiller: 10.04 will be the last good Ubuntu... I fear.
[07:09] <BestKeptSecret> !commands
[07:09] <awkisopen> Currently running 10.04.2
[07:10] <BestKeptSecret> !man
[07:11] <awkisopen> Additionally, even though it crashes on resume, I can still do things like turn on/off my network card (and indeed the network card shows activity during that time)
[07:12] <starkiller> unity has bugs
[07:12] <BestKeptSecret> they should try to ship with no bugs
[07:12] <BestKeptSecret> you know... be perfect
[07:12] <Saphiresurf> Would someone mind helping me? When I try to log in as root using sudo I get this error "sudo: must be setuid root".
[07:12] <centHOGG> features
[07:12] <Saphiresurf> BestKeptSecret, No product is like that.
[07:13] <BestKeptSecret> Saphiresurf, i was joking
[07:13] <urgodfather> i have a simple question, how do i remove the original install 2.5-35-22 from the system?
[07:13] <marvin> what should the drive letter be?
[07:13] <Saphiresurf> Oh Haha
[07:13] <Saphiresurf> I will be right back.
[07:13] <YankDownUnder> unko, Mate, I'll find something after I eat dinner mate
[07:14] <awkisopen> I've been searching the forums and it seems like all the forums about crashing on resume have all been abandoned :(
[07:14] <marvin> well... not letter but sda1 sdb2...
[07:16] <unko> YankDownUnder,  im downloading V13.1 since i couln't find 9.9
[07:16] <alibaba> bonjour, la version 10.04 est elle plus stable que la 10.10?  merci
[07:18] <awkisopen> Holy crap I guess running Ubuntu on an HP Pavilion dv6 is just hopeless
[07:18] <awkisopen> I've been able to find zero details about any of my problems
[07:19] <BestKeptSecret> ubuntu doesn't like you
[07:19] <awkisopen> BestKeptSecret: Is there anywhere I can go for advice/help? So far the forums and this have resulted in nothing
[07:19] <Saphiresurf> Nevermind I think I figured out my problem
[07:20] <BestKeptSecret> awkisopen, hmm this is the best place for solutions... Forums might be a bit better if you ask educatedly
[07:20] <awkisopen> I asked a different question on the forums, listed all the solutions I tried... nothing so far, maybe it just takes a while?
[07:20] <awkisopen> fwiw that was about brightness not working
[07:20] <BestKeptSecret> awkisopen, when did you post?
[07:20] <awkisopen> About a day ago. I imagine it takes longer for something this complicated
[07:20] <BestKeptSecret> Wait for at least 1-2 full days
[07:21] <awkisopen> But yeah, I'm not in IRC for the same question
[07:21] <BestKeptSecret> yeah a bit... if it's extremely complicated... then the amount of users decrases that can answer that question
[07:21] <loyulinux_> join #XDA-Atrix
[07:21] <BestKeptSecret> and to have problems on a certain laptop... that's even more harder to answer... ifyou don't have thatmodel
[07:21] <BestKeptSecret> ask the question more generically
[07:22] <BestKeptSecret> entice someone into helping you
[07:22] <awkisopen> Here's a simpler one though: I added acpi_osi=Linux to the kernel boot options (b/c that was one of the solutions to my earlier problem) and have since removed the option. Could it still be messing things up? Is there a minimum amount of times I need to reboot?
[07:22] <BestKeptSecret> don't entice me
[07:23] <awkisopen> that was to the channel in general =/
[07:23] <awkisopen> not you
[07:23] <BestKeptSecret> oic
[07:23] <BestKeptSecret> I'm not that tech savvy
[07:23] <centHOGG> welcome to linux
[07:23] <BestKeptSecret> anyone know how to use sed/cut to get text from 1 point to another point?
[07:24] <gray2> rather...quick question, just installed ubuntu, ran update manager, and there's >300 updates. Are those updates for installed programs or arbitrary 3rd party programs that are popular amongst the community?
[07:24] <raido> gray2: the former. do the updates
[07:25] <SkrappJaw> any one using 11.04 beta?
[07:25] <h4xx0r> nah, im still on the 10
[07:25] <Saphiresurf> I used it, but it wasn't very usable :p.
[07:25] <jingqq5210> me
[07:25] <h4xx0r> but I heard 11 is going to be kick-ass
[07:25] <h4xx0r> dont really think so though
[07:25] <Saphiresurf> Looks like it will
[07:25] <h4xx0r> I dont find much difference between 11 and 10
[07:26] <Saphiresurf> Except the fact that it's using unity :p
[07:26] <samira-t> who can help me to run an embedded web server?
[07:26] <h4xx0r> and ill be using 11 only once its stable and released completely (not beta)
[07:26] <raido> h4xx0r: maybe if your in 4th grade
[07:26] <SkrappJaw> what is unity?
[07:26] <h4xx0r> lol
[07:26] <h4xx0r> unity is new desktop I think
[07:26] <h4xx0r> :S
[07:26] <h4xx0r> or something like that
[07:26] <gray2> raido: thank you
[07:26] <SkrappJaw> ahh.
[07:27] <SkrappJaw> I have the iso and vbox. gonna test out an install wit hit.
[07:27] <SkrappJaw> it*
[07:27] <sampson> hey - just installed ubuntu for first time - my display is all wack. really low resolution
[07:27] <jingqq5210> SkrappJaw: that's a bad idea
[07:27] <sampson> when i go into monitor - i can't select the native resolution anyway
[07:28] <olx69> I've some network trouble with lxc and static ip (ubuntu container created from template by lxc-create)- my lxc should have a static ip but got one by dhcp : http://codepad.org/I5lPT2wx - what wrong?
[07:28] <olx69> Anyway,change he /etc/network/interfaces works for static, but there is no default route! I have to add them manually and than works http://codepad.org/w4ClJy08 Any ideas?
[07:28] <SkrappJaw> why is that a bad idea?
[07:28] <liuz> nihao
[07:28] <liuz> wei
[07:28] <liuz> sdf
[07:28] <raido> gray2: np
[07:28] <jingqq5210> liuz: 你好
[07:28] <SkrappJaw> its virtual box.
[07:29] <liuz> 这是什么阿
[07:29] <liuz> 刚装linux
[07:29] <liuz> 不会
[07:29] <liuz> 有没有懂的阿
[07:29] <snowrichard> thought this was an english channel
[07:29] <liuz> 求助
[07:29] <FloodBot3> liuz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <jingqq5210> liuz: pease join #ubuntu-cn
[07:29] <jingqq5210> liuz: Please join #ubuntu-cn
[07:30] <samira-t> who can help me to run an embedded web server?
[07:30] <starkiller> black ways??¡¡¡¿¿¿????
[07:30] <solozm> hello every body
[07:30] <solozm> I am a new guy
[07:30] <SkrappJaw> Currently installing 11.04 in a vbox
[07:30] <jingqq5210> solozm: welcome to linux
[07:31] <solozm> thanks
[07:31] <jingqq5210> SkrappJaw: would your vbox support 3D
[07:31] <SkrappJaw> jyea
[07:31] <SkrappJaw> yea*
[07:32] <SkrappJaw> I have a debian and an xp guest.
[07:32] <m4t1> hello all
[07:32] <m4t1> i have problem webcam :( any can help me
[07:32] <solozm>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[07:32] <jingqq5210> m4t1: hello
[07:32] <olx69> no network specialized here?
[07:33] <m4t1> hello jingqq5210
[07:33] <olx69>  /join #ubuntu-de
[07:33] <gray2> question: ubuntu didn't have me setup a root password on install. and the account that i did setup seems to have root privliges...is that normal? is that the root acct? do most people generally then setup a standard user acct for general use?
[07:33] <gray2> privileges*
[07:34] <arand> gray2: Yes, first user is setup with sudo, that is the default
[07:34] <arand> !sudo | gray2
[07:34] <raido> gray2: Its the Ubuntu way of dealing with the root account and is normal for Ubunto, see Ubottu comment
[07:35] <gray2> arand, ubottu, raido: thank you. sorry for the trouble, somewhat new to *nix and entirely new to ubuntu
[07:35] <SkrappJaw> you can get to the root terminal in the applications > system tools or use "sudo su" in the normal terminal
[07:35] <jingqq5210> gray2: no root user on ubuntu
[07:36] <m4t1> jingqq5210: hello
[07:36] <gray2> jingqq5210: understood, ty
[07:36] <jingqq5210> m4t1: :-)
[07:36] <jingqq5210> gray2: ^_^
[07:37] <raido> jingqq5210: there is a root user, its just not given a PW by default. Its the way Ubuntu does things.
[07:37]  * SkrappJaw natty-guest install 75%
[07:37] <m4t1> jingqq5210: hey my webcam is benq C350 and i cant make work on my ubuntu 10.10
[07:37]  * SkrappJaw is curious
[07:37] <samira-t> who can help me to run an embedded web server?
[07:38] <jingqq5210> radio :yes~~
[07:38] <jingqq5210> raido: yeah~~
[07:38] <jingqq5210> m4t1: I'v no idea about webcam
[07:39] <m4t1> jingqq5210: -.- ok ty anywhy
[07:40] <gray2> question: so each command you would want to run with root privileges would have to be piped into sudo?
[07:40] <m4t1>  webcam  benq C350 can´y make work on my ubuntu 10.10
[07:40] <raido> gray2: piped is the wrong word, but yes
[07:40] <jingqq5210> gray2: use commond   sudo -i     or sudo su
[07:41] <jingqq5210> see what happened~~~
[07:41] <awkisopen> Made a script, want to execute it as root using a shortcut key - typed sudo sh /path/to/script.sh into shortcuts, assigned key - nothing happens.  T.T
[07:44] <administrator> hello
[07:44] <yzxlax> sdf
[07:47] <awkisopen> I'm using the keyboard shortcuts utility, btw
[07:49] <sury> hi
[07:49] <jingqq5210> sury: hi
[07:49] <raido> awkisopen: what is the key combination you are using? Are you sure those keys are recognized? Do they work for another function?
[07:51] <elisa87> have you worked with "SoC encounter" or "Design Compiler"?
[07:51] <awkisopen> raido: F2 and F3; yes, I've tested them with other shortcuts a minute or so ago
[07:51] <sury> Christie: hi
[07:52] <raido> awkisopen: what does the script do? how are you sure its not working?
[07:52] <frybye> hi - in gparted how do i set up the mount point on a new partition??
[07:53] <awkisopen> raido: the script increases/decreases the brightness of the screen. it works if I execute it in Terminal, but not if I assign it to a shortcut key, nor if I create a launcher for it (unless I label it "Application in Terminal")
[07:55] <starkiller> blakcways?
[07:55] <gray2> raido, jingqq5210, ubottu, arand: restart time, then time for zzz's. thanks again for the help! probably see you around with more questions down the road >.> <3
[07:56] <jingqq5210> ~~
[07:58] <Dan9550X>
[07:58] <raido> awkisopen: Ive seen this, I dont know the answer but is has to do with the wah you session in running in the shell and the script not running from a actual virtual terminal (like havint to choose "run in terminal" when making a launcher). I think you can get around it by changing the way the script works but im not sure.
[08:00] <awkisopen> raido: Okay, thanks. In the meantime I figured out how to assign the shortcut key to open up a terminal and execute the command, although it unfortunately prompts me for a password (since it's run as sudo) =/ but still better than nothing
[08:00] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! is there a way to have Audacious not to create a new instance when a new call is made to it? I read the FAQ where it is stated that this does not use any more memory, but my question has to do with the fact that my taskbar is being populated by Audacious and eventually I have to killall; I am on Ubuntu 10.04, Audacious 2.3 [for the record, I had to reinstall my system recently, but Audacious behaviour prior to that was the des
[08:01] <bcbc2> frybye: you do that in the installer, not gparted
[08:01] <raido> awkisopen: you can use visudo to edit the sudoers file to give your user access to that particular command, then it wont need to be interactive and your script may work
[08:02] <awkisopen> raido: Wow, thanks! That's awesome. Trying that now.
[08:02] <awkisopen> Where is the sudoers file?
[08:04] <awkisopen> Actually, more importantly than that, how do I add the access for that command?
[08:04] <raido> awkisopen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132821
[08:04] <pcman> hello
[08:04] <pcman> can any one help me
[08:05] <awkisopen> raido: Thanks for all your help!
[08:05] <raido> awkisopen: np
[08:05] <pcman> i have a problem
[08:06] <pcman> i installed julinux
[08:06] <pcman> i cant boot into my windows 7
[08:06] <SilentDis> For some reason, my Blu-Ray drive has stopped recognizing blu-ray disks (it was working just fine before).  Nothing is showing up in the system log upon disk load, where else can i look?
[08:07] <SilentDis> I should note, it sees CDs, DVDs and burns disks without issue.
[08:07] <SilentDis> I haven't tried to load a blu-ray disk since last kernel, maybe something goofy there?
[08:08] <ruan> perhaps. you can boot into the old kernel to check
[08:08] <SilentDis> still, it should show something in some log somewhere, right?
[08:10] <smiley7> hey guys i need some help...right now ubuntu is downloading something and i dont know what..
[08:10] <smiley7> i dont have no browsers open..
[08:11] <jasonwryan> you auto-updating?
[08:11] <smiley7> no...but the lights on my modem is going crazy...
[08:12] <smiley7> what is ubuntu doing ?
[08:12] <jasonwryan> netstat -tav ?
[08:13] <aperson> is there a better way to get all the available x displays other than xauth list "$DISPLAY" ?
[08:14] <aperson> I have a script that relies on a display being available, but my $DISPLAY variable changes from time to time, so I'd like to be able to set it automatically
[08:14] <smiley7> i cant read all of the netstat output...
[08:15] <smiley7> i have the Gnome system monitor open...and on the network page..it is downloading something
[08:15] <perlmonkey> netstat -tav | more
[08:16] <benzaldehyde> SilentDis: do you by any chance use dumphd
[08:16] <raido> smiley7: aren't you using IRC?
[08:16] <SilentDis> benzaldehyde: makemkv, and I already checked, it's not running
[08:16] <smiley7> yes,but it was doing it Before i started Irc
[08:17] <raido> smiley7: it could be the update manager refreshing the apt-cache
[08:17] <staar2> hello how to make the tar extraction of certain folder, mark the extract folder in tar  ?
[08:17] <benzaldehyde> SilentDis: i need to see about getting mine to run, i briefly read about using dumphd which is why i mentioned it
[08:17] <smiley7> update manager is not running.....and it wouldent take that long...
[08:18] <SilentDis> benzaldehyde: I have no problems performing a blu-ray rip... just for some reason I popped in Tron Legacy and it refuses to even recognize it now.  I have no idea why.  CDs, DVDs, read-write burns are just fine...
[08:18] <smiley7> it dont do it in linux Mint
[08:19] <jasonwryan> Networking puzzle: I can't access any sites serving data from EC2 in FF or other graphical browswers. Can ping them and retrieve pages with w3m and Lynx. Any ideas?
[08:20] <smiley7> well somethings funny.....
[08:20] <smiley7> the netstat in windows...i could see the Websites.
[08:21] <SilentDis> is there a way to force a 'reset' of some sort on an optical device?  (specifically, /dev/sr1)?
[08:23] <benzaldehyde> SilentDis: newer encryption possibly, did u try a different BD
[08:23] <SilentDis> benzaldehyde: already tried that.  I personally ripped Avatar off this drive a few months ago... won't recognize the disk now
[08:26] <SilentDis> bbiab, gonna dbl check bios settings on this stupid thing, make sure nothing decided to go all wonky
[08:26] <staar2> how to make to tar to extract from certain dir ? like inside tar i got /home i want only the home´s content
[08:26] <dr3mro> why not to consider pychess instead of glchess for ubuntu ???
[08:27] <benzaldehyde> SilentDis: cdfreaks forum is good for that type of stuff, though i don't know if there are any linux gurus, other than that i do not know
[08:28] <raido> staar2: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_node/extract-dir.html#SEC28
[08:31] <smiley7> why guys what is dns.admin.google com
[08:31] <\DSAFEW\> hi there, to update a kernel, what is the package in the repo?
[08:32] <smiley7> anybody ?
[08:32] <atlef> anyone with a recommendation for a good cd - ogg ripper?
[08:34] <smiley7> Anybody have an anser ?
[08:34] <\DSAFEW\> atlef, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-ripping-and-encoding-audio-files/
[08:35] <Innxis> A bit of a situation here. I have a folder in which I upload files via FTP. All files uploaded have the default permission set to 700. Is there a way to change it to 755?
[08:35] <smiley7>  i guess not
[08:36] <bullgard4>  /var/log.boot.log reports: "Starting mDNS/DNS-SD daemon" but System Monitor does not show such a daemon. How come?
[08:36] <atlef> \DSAFEW\: thx
[08:36] <galerien> Hi ! I'm using ubuntu 11.04 since yesterday and I was wondering if I should install my Nvidia drivers, because I can only run gnome 2 without them... (G 210M)
[08:37] <galerien> Meaning : is it going to work or crash
[08:38] <\DSAFEW\> galerien, nvidias are pretty good with linux, and you can always go back to the old one if it fails
[08:38] <atlef> !natty | galerien
[08:38] <\DSAFEW\> galerien, you should use the software manager though, don't install it from a website
[08:39] <galerien> So the automated driver installer ? (the motherboard icone thing ?)
[08:40] <galerien> atlef: I don't care if I crash, I just prefer not to reinstall
[08:41] <Innxis> The Bournemouth Incident
[08:41] <Innxis> Oh sorry
[08:41] <Innxis> Wrong box
[08:41] <atlef> galerien: #ubuntu+1 is for discussing beta releases
[08:41] <GVal> hi guys
[08:42] <Innxis> A bit of a situation here. I have a folder in which I upload files via FTP. All files uploaded have the default permission set to 700. Is there a way to change it to 755?
[08:42] <GVal> may someone help me with device.map of grub ? thanks
[08:42] <galerien> atlef : ok, thanks
[08:42] <lizard1> hi all
[08:42] <atlef> hi
[08:42] <Innxis> :|
[08:43] <lizard1> sorry for writing here, please help me
[08:43] <GVal> may someone help me with device.map of grub ? thanks
[08:43] <lizard1> i can't start X
[08:43] <coz_> lizard1,  what is the issue?
[08:44] <lizard1> here from weechat
[08:44] <Innxis> lizard: startx ?
[08:44] <lizard1> yes
[08:44] <coz_> lizard1,  do you have a black screen with blinking cursor
[08:44] <Innxis> lizard1: what error are you being given?
[08:44] <lizard1> at first i look conn not found /usr/bin/X
[08:45] <lizard1> after that i type apt-get install xinit ubuntu-desktop
[08:45] <lizard1> so i get error: nvidia drivers not found
[08:46] <Innxis> lizard1: what version of ubuntu are you trying to run?
[08:46] <lizard1> if i type apt-get install nvidia-current i agan get error: /usr/bin/X not found
[08:46] <lizard1> ubuntu 10.10
[08:46] <coz_> lizard1,  did you install this with a live cd ?
[08:46] <lizard1> no
[08:46] <lizard1> from ditrib
[08:47] <Innxis> lizard1: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:47] <Innxis> lizard1: What do you mean from ditrib?
[08:47] <coz_> lizard1,  I dont understand  that either
[08:47] <ari> hello !  I have Ubuntu 10.10, after connecting to VPN server, it blocks all internet traffic. How to get it working ?
[08:48] <coz_> lizard1,  what is your native language ?
[08:48] <lizard1> russian but instead rus-letters i have white squares
[08:49] <lizard1> sorry for bad english (
[08:49] <coz_> lizard1,  no problem
[08:49] <Innxis> A bit of a situation here. I have a folder in which I upload files via FTP. All files uploaded have the default permission set to 700. Is there a way to change it to 755?
[08:49] <userdel> which is the best platform for developing sis files?
[08:49] <lizard1> from distributin ean that i dowload ubuntu10.10.iso and install this
[08:50] <Innxis> lizard1: have you tried what I've suggested you?
[08:50] <coz_> lizard1,  you downloaded the ico on another system ? and then installed directly from the iso?
[08:50] <YankDownUnder> Innxis, Have you checked the ftp server configuration to see if it will automagically set the perms to 755 ?
[08:50] <lizard1> yes i try, packages downloading now
[08:50] <GVal> who can help me with grub ?
[08:51] <coz_> GVal,  I am not expert in grub,,, #grub may be helpful if no one here can help,, what is the issue ?
[08:51] <Innxis> YankDownUnder: My FTP server sets all the file permissions automatically to 700.
[08:51] <Innxis> I want to change that to 755.
[08:51] <GVal> i have
[08:51] <lizard1> yes, download under WinXP
[08:51] <alex88_> GVal: ask your question..and if someone knows the answer will help :)
[08:51] <GVal> to change the boot device that all
[08:52] <lizard1> chmod +x?
[08:52] <coz_> GVal,  change it from which to what?
[08:53] <GVal> from dev/sdb1
[08:53] <bullgard4>  /var/log.boot.log reports: "Starting mDNS/DNS-SD daemon" but System Monitor does not show such a daemon. How come?
[08:53] <GVal> to sda1 where my linux os is located
[08:54] <coz_> GVal,   where you type here,, type    /join #grub    they will likely be able to help
[08:54] <GVal> have a look guys http://paste.ubuntu.com/591626/
[08:54] <atlef> GVal: a lot of info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[08:56] <daVinciIT> hi all! I'm looking for a software that save a screenshot programmatically every 5seconds... do you know something? thank you.
[08:56] <lizard1> Innxis, coz_, after install nvidia-glx syste ask me for installing nvidia-current
[08:57] <YankDownUnder> Innxis, Um...ok...so have you thought about changing the server settings so that the perms for uploaded files will be set to 755?
[08:57] <jasonwryan> Networking puzzle: I can't access sites with content served from Amazon's cloud servers (quora, bitbucket) with FF or graphical browser. Ping & text browsers work fine. Any ideas?
[08:57] <GVal> atlef i am talking about grub1
[08:57] <Innxis> YankDownUnder: That's what I'm trying to do
[08:57] <bullgard4> daVinciIT: You can solve your problem by writing a cronjob in a script.
[08:58] <Innxis> YanDownUnder: Just that I don't know exactly how to do it
[08:58] <daVinciIT> cronjob?
[08:58] <lizard1> daVinciIT: crontab -l
[08:58] <daVinciIT> bulgard4: thank you.
[08:58] <daVinciIT> lizard1: thank you.
[08:59] <meofi> hi~ Which lib package is the gtkdoc one
[08:59] <shocktop> is there anything for ubuntu that simulates the goodness of cocaine? :>
[09:00] <bullgard4> shocktop: Stop trolling.
[09:00] <daVinciIT> .. I've a problem... crontab execute job every 1minute....
[09:00] <daVinciIT> I need every 6 seconds... :D
[09:00] <userdel> which is the best platform for developing sis files?
[09:00] <shocktop> er, whati mean is, what's some good software to install on a fresh installation?
[09:00] <lizard1> daVinciIT: 1-60/6
[09:00] <Seveas> daVinciIT, then run it as a daemon that fires off the job every 6 seconds
[09:01] <YankDownUnder> Innxis, What server are you using?
[09:01] <daVinciIT> ok I try thank you all.
[09:01] <lizard1> daVinciIT: 1oy, sorry by script, for() sleep(600)
[09:01] <Innxis> YankDownUnder: Ubuntu Server 10.10
[09:01] <lizard1> daVinciIT: and run script every minute
[09:01] <Seveas> lizard1, that's 10 minutes, not 6 seconds.
[09:02] <staar2> how to install ff3.6 to if i have ff4 ?
[09:02] <YankDownUnder> Innxis, I'll assume you've been to the Ubuntu Server home page and looked through the documentation online?
[09:02] <Seveas> staar2, download tarball, install in /usr/local
[09:03] <om26er> !test
[09:03] <ruan> staar2: how did you install ff4?
[09:03] <shocktop> man these live cd's pwn.
[09:04] <ruan> staar2: if you want to have both, you'll need to download the tar.gz from mozilla.org
[09:04] <stimpie> I 'need' to install ubuntu on a laptop with windows (and a recovery partition) what is the best way to do this? use wubi? repartition and use grub?
[09:05] <lizard1> Innxis: i get error can not found /usr/bin/X again :(
[09:06] <tvalladon> Running Ubuntu 10.10 server on a vps I am getting the error "tasksel: debconf failed to run" when trying to run tasksel as root. No other error messages are offered. I did a apt-get clean and apt-get update. Aptitude runs and installs fine, apt-get installs and runs fine. I have googled but the only suggestion I see is sudo, but I am running as root.
[09:06] <Innxis> YankDownUnder: Yes, and the solution to the problem I encountered is not in there
[09:06] <staar2> ruan well i added repo and updated the ff
[09:06] <Seveas> stimpie, boot the livecd, start the installer, do partitioning from within there. Also let it install grub
[09:06] <tvalladon> Only modification to default install so far is moving sshd to a different port.
[09:07] <Seveas> basically, all the default actions :)
[09:07] <[Spooky]> Is there a equlaizer for Rythmobox?
[09:07] <Innxis> YankDownUnder: Also, i've found the same problem on this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161547 . No solution there either.
[09:09] <lizard1> Innxis: i get error can not found /usr/bin/X again :(
[09:09] <stimpie> Seveas, thats exactly what I was thinking about but wubi looks interesting
[09:10] <Innxis> lizard1: I have no idea what you could do, sorry.
[09:10] <lizard1> Innxis: thank for try.
[09:10] <Innxis> lizard1: To be honest with you I'm running Mac, I'm only using a linux server with no graphical interface.
[09:10] <benzaldehyde> wow, printing in ubuntu seems almost vengeful. my system locked up on my first test page print in ubuntu. it rebooted and immediately reprinted the document to my dismay
[09:10] <lizard1> Innxis: may be you can help me with squares instead letters?
[09:11] <Innxis> lizard1: You have to install the russian language pack
[09:11] <benzaldehyde> i have a stylus r280 printer that prints on CDs, does anyone know how to use that feature in linux, thanks
[09:11] <xevious> I've put the Ubuntu 10.10 LiveCD ISO on a USB stick. Is there any way to convert it to a permanent install where software I install to it remains installed between reboots?
[09:12] <lizard1> Innxis: trouble in that: i have screen not 80:20
[09:12] <Innxis> lizard1: fix the screen, then, fix the language pack
[09:12] <lizard1> Innxis: in normal screen i have normal letters
[09:12] <Innxis> lizard1: or reinstall ubuntu using the english language as default
[09:13] <lizard1> but i don't know how it return
[09:15] <benzaldehyde> xevious: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[09:15] <[deXter]> Hi all, does anyone know of a Hardware Compatibility List for known working USB headsets for Ubuntu? Thanks.
[09:16] <YankDownUnder> Innxis, What is the server (ftp) that you're running - is it vsftpd?
[09:16] <lizard1> anyone can help me fix "can not found /usr/bin/X"?
[09:17] <Innxis> YankDownUnder: What else could it be?
[09:17] <ikonia> lizard1: what are you doing thats giving you that error
[09:17] <YankDownUnder> Innxis, Mate, I don't know, and I can't second guess...that's why I'm asking you...
[09:17] <benzaldehyde> [deXter]: http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/
[09:18] <[deXter]> benzaldehyde: Thanks!
[09:18] <lizard1> ikonia: try upgrade my system to 11.04
[09:18] <tuhin> which is the BEST laptop power management tool?
[09:18] <ikonia> lizard1: 11.04 is not stable or supported
[09:18] <ikonia> lizard1: you can disscuss it in #ubuntu+1 channel
[09:19] <lizard1> ikonia: nut system not begin upgraded because "you have hold packeges, solve it and try again"
[09:20] <ikonia> lizard1: yes, 11.04 is not supported at this time as it's not stable, you can discuss it in #ubuntu+1 channel
[09:20] <lizard1> ikonia: system also say me , that for this i need reboot in recovery mode and run dpkg -f
[09:20] <lizard1> ikonia: after that i lose X
[09:20] <ikonia> lizard1: listed to what I've just said
[09:21] <lizard1> ikonia: i have 10.10 now
[09:21] <ikonia> lizard1: you've tried to upgrade to 11.04
[09:21] <riverwalker> hah
[09:21] <ikonia> lizard1: that process is not supported as 11.04 is not stable yet, please discuss it in #ubuntu+1
[09:21] <riverwalker> you ren ma
[09:21] <lizard1> ikonia: it's not begin
[09:21] <ikonia> lizard1: that process is not supported as 11.04 is not stable yet, please discuss it in #ubuntu+1
[09:21] <jasonwryan> Networking puzzle: I can't access sites with content served from Amazon's cloud servers (quora, bitbucket) with FF or graphical browser. Ping & text browsers work fine. Any ideas?
[09:21] <lizard1> ikonia: simple update not begin by this ptrouble
[09:22] <ikonia> lizard1: that process is NOT SUPPORTED you can discuss it in #ubuntu+1
[09:22] <riverwalker> us?
[09:22] <lizard1> ikonia: sorry, ok.
[09:22] <riverwalker> talk in english ?
[09:22] <pooky> Is it possible to have ldap authentication without using remote home directories?
[09:22] <ikonia> riverwalker: channel is English language, yes
[09:23] <ikonia> pooky: sure is
[09:23] <pooky> ikonia: do you know how to ignore the homeDirectory attribute?
[09:23] <tuhin> which is the BEST laptop power management tool?
[09:23] <riverwalker> which contry are you from ?
[09:23] <pooky> ikonia: I set this up so long ago and I just want to use /home
[09:23] <ikonia> riverwalker: many different countries in this channel
[09:23] <Innxis> YankDownUnder: I've managed to fix it, thanks anyway
[09:24] <riverwalker> England?
[09:24] <ikonia> pooky: you have to null it within the schema, so it falls back I think
[09:24] <ikonia> riverwalker: many different countries, however we only allow ubuntu support chat in here
[09:24] <YankDownUnder> Innxis, Roger that.
[09:24] <pooky> ikonia: mmm, on the server itself? I still need it set for other machines, it's just on this ubuntu box that I want to use /home/uid
[09:24] <riverwalker> Americans?
[09:25] <ikonia> pooky: ah, not sure how you could do that
[09:25] <pooky> ikonia: the net latency is too high and makes using the box a pain. I'll set up unison to synch to the network drive.
[09:25] <ikonia> pooky: I can see that being a problem
[09:25] <ikonia> riverwalker: many places, please stop asking
[09:26] <riverwalker> me? stop asking
[09:26] <riverwalker> sorry
[09:26] <ikonia> riverwalker: yes
[09:26] <pooky> ikonia: been trying to look at things like nss_map and such
[09:27] <pooky> ikonia: most of the solutions are for using a different mount point :/
[09:27] <ikonia> pooky: oooh, isn't there an ldap schemea entry the same as auto_home for nis ?
[09:27] <ikonia> I wonder if you could use that to override it
[09:27] <riverwalker> i just want to know more imformations about this
[09:27] <ikonia> riverwalker: sorry, we only talk about ubuntu support in here
[09:28] <cinnabarisland12> potential ubuntu user here, just need help with a pesky wifi card
[09:28] <DirtyDawg> cinnabarisland12: best advice is to state your issue, maybe someone can help
[09:29] <ejina> тест
[09:29] <example92> goodmorning! i need your help!!
[09:29] <pooky> тест?
[09:29] <cinnabarisland12> DirtyDawg: ok problem is this, I have a Ralink RT3090BC4 card in my laptop and it just won't work with Ubuntu
[09:30] <ejina> проверял настройку локали))
[09:30] <ikonia> !english | ejina
[09:30] <atlef> !ru | ejina
[09:31] <Goooo> Hi, I'm beginner with ubuntu and I just need to install a soft in console but I need help, someone can help me ?
[09:32] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 card not working, any ieas? I've tried Markus Heberling's driver but it's hit & miss whether it works or not
[09:32] <ikonia> !software | Goooo
[09:33] <example92> ubottu can you help me with something?
[09:33] <ejina> Люди, скажите, куда мог подеваться индикатор переключения раскладки? тот, что на панели в правом верху
[09:33] <ikonia> ejina: stop, english only please
[09:34] <Goooo> ikonia : I need to  symlink to the headers of the kernel you are running now in    /usr/src/, How can I do this ?
[09:34] <ejina> ok
[09:34] <ikonia> Goooo: ln -s is the symlink command
[09:35] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 card not working, any ideas? I've tried Markus Heberling's driver but it's hit & miss whether it works or not
[09:35] <Goooo> Ok and what do I need to put after that ?
[09:35] <tuhin> today i m first time in this irc
[09:36] <tuhin> which is the BEST laptop power management tool?
[09:36] <Goooo> I think taht the name of the symlink nedd to be : linux-2.6.35-22-generic
[09:36] <example92> anybosy to help me with my webcam?
[09:36] <example92> *anybody
[09:37] <asd2> How can I make "sudo fancontrol" command be executed at startup?
[09:37] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 card not working, any ieas? I've tried Markus Heberling's driver but it's hit & miss whether it works or not
[09:39] <YankDownUnder> cinnabarisland12, Have you checked to see if the driver is being blacklisted in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ??
[09:40] <cinnabarisland12> YankDownUnder: yeah I've looked in there before there isn't anything about Ralink at all
[09:41] <YankDownUnder> cinnabarisland12, It's not going to be listed as Ralink - but something like RT309 or so...does the NIC work when you use a liveCD ?
[09:41] <cinnabarisland12> YankDownUnder: NIC? Should've mentioned i'm somewhat of a noob
[09:41] <Sivert3> got "INFO: task pdflush:5483 blocked for more than 120 seconds." (in dmesg) during a archive unpack on ubuntu 9.10
[09:43] <YankDownUnder> cinnabarisland12, network card (NIC)
[09:44] <sungji> hm how do I get the IP of my router in ad-hoc mode?
[09:44] <cinnabarisland12> YankDownUnder: Yes and no, sometimes it works and I connect to the network but on reboot it doesn't connect and sometimes it outright won't work
[09:45] <cinnabarisland12> YankDownUnder: I should probably also mentione i'm on Windows at the moment
[09:45] <bullgard4>  /var/log.boot.log reports: "Starting mDNS/DNS-SD daemon" but System Monitor does not show such a daemon. How come?
[09:47] <YankDownUnder> cinnabarisland12, Mate, an idea would be to boot with a liveCD, see if the network works - if SO, then you'll be able to find out what driver is being loaded for yer card...THEN you can move ahead and get yer Ubuntu installation fixed up...
[09:48] <cinnabarisland12> YankDownUnder: not too sure that'll work but I'll give it a shot, thanks :-)
[09:49] <sungji> I've got an ethernet connection to my router and I get the IP <IP_ADDRESS> from it. Now I'd like to access the router's config website, but how do I get its IP?
[09:49] <amalgama> does anyone know a good program for changing the "encoding" of a file, eg video or text, and provide a password for that?
[09:51] <kingspider677> hello everyone
[09:55] <apc_> Peddy, who are you?
[09:57] <khaaan> hi i just installed 10.04 and am getting a file not found error with grub
[09:58] <khaaan> did some weird partitioning this time cause the storage medias i'm using are too small to hold ubuntu on one of them.. so that might be it dunno
[09:59] <ari__> what causes VPN to block all net traffic ? Any ideas ?
[10:01] <s3r3n1t7> ari__, the very basic of VPN causes that. It's to prevent any leaks or breakin on the private connection of VPN.
[10:01] <AzizLight> Hi everybody
[10:03] <daVinciIT> hi all. Ubuntu Netbook. how to connect automatically Empathy account? thank you
[10:04] <s3r3n1t7> daVinciIT, add it to your session (system - preferences - session)
[10:04] <s3r3n1t7> daVinciIT, apology, startup application instead of session
[10:04] <daVinciIT> I try thank you.
[10:04] <rajvi> hi all on 10.10 on a dell netbook .. my Ubuntu is becoming sluggish i have a installed a progarm BIONIC long time back and uninstalled it long time back .. But after 3 months today i realished that
[10:05] <rajvi> contd .. That The Bionic Process was still running .. Please HELp
[10:05] <ari__> s3r3n1t7: I doubt that. VPN purpose is to provide secure pipeline to VPN server and then reach net from it. That's the way it work when firing up the other OS. Ubuntu connects correctly to server but does not expose the pipeline to apps
[10:06] <rajvi> anyone tried BIONIC on Ubuntu
[10:06] <bullgard4> amalgama: Why do you want to change the encoding of a file? This normally will make your file unfunctional.
[10:07] <amalgama> bullgard4, as protection for the file from unwanted view
[10:07] <s3r3n1t7> ari__, and to make sure the private network you're connecting to stays private, it blocks all open net connection. If the server you're connecting to doesn't support an internet connection going out then effectively VPN will block all net traffic.
[10:07] <amalgama> of course, i want to be able to reverse the procedure
[10:07] <amalgama> :)
[10:08] <rajvi> i quit .. bye all i think this room is not for newbies
[10:08] <bullgard4> amalgama: A better solution is to narrow the access rights for this file.
[10:08] <avinashhm> Hi, can we launch some applicatoins at start of ubuntu .. like i want to launch xchat at the boot of ubuntu .. any way ?
[10:08] <s3r3n1t7> avinashhm, add the program to your startup applications --> system - preferences - startup applications
[10:08] <eyadof> hi all in ubuntu 10.10 i tryed to install gnome 3 i add the reposity and run apt-get update but when i try to install gnome-desktop3 i receive an error :unable to locate package gnome-desktop3 can anyone help.please?
[10:09] <benzaldehyde> if sungji comes back tell him it is cat /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases
[10:09] <amalgama> bullgard4, i dont think that would work if the file is in a hard drive and can be connected in any computer
[10:09] <smash420> right, i need a media player that i can use to sync audio to my mp3 player. which work at it?
[10:09] <avinashhm> s3r3n1t7, thanks .. this will work for me .. just wandering , any command line way ..
[10:09] <bastidrazor> eyadof: that would mean 'gnome-desktop3' is not the name of the package for it. look at the page you used to add the repo
[10:09] <s3r3n1t7> avinashhm, a commandline way to add programs to be launched when you login graphically? I'm sure there is but i've never used it.
[10:10] <varis2> hi - I have a usb install of ubuntu, which often asks for a password... "user" with empty password doesn't seem to work
[10:10] <avinashhm> s3r3n1t7, no problem .. thanks for your time buddy .. i ll check out in the runlevel scripts .. thanks agian
[10:10] <bullgard4> amalgama: In that case a solution is to put that file in a directory and encrypt the access to this directory.
[10:11] <amalgama> bullgard4, hmm... let me check
[10:12] <varis2> any idea what to try to use the system?
[10:13] <atlef> smash420: have you tried rhythmbox?
[10:14] <smash420> atlef: yeah it seems to work its magic quite happily but when i disconnect the mp3 player there's no music on it
[10:14] <bullgard4> varis2: Such schemes often do not work with an empty password for security reasons. So you better adopt a password which is not empty.
[10:14] <benzaldehyde> varis2: You can set a password during a LiveCD session by opening a terminal, and typing in:
[10:14] <benzaldehyde> varis2: $ sudo passwd ubuntu
[10:15] <dee|dee> hi all, how to make ubuntu run on text mode?
[10:15] <benzaldehyde> varis2: omit $
[10:15] <rajvi> hello u guys BOINIC issue figured it out myself :)
[10:15] <dee|dee> I don;t find gdm on rc2.d
[10:15] <benzaldehyde> varis2: but also help says to leave both fields blank and press enter or wait for it to time out
[10:15] <varis2> how do I open a terminal - it seems the consoles don't activate?
[10:16] <bullgard4> dee|dee: Open a terminal. then you will be able to run Ubuntu in text mode.
[10:16] <the_holstar> what the command to change the password?
[10:16] <the_holstar> I am a newbie
[10:16] <the_holstar> :(
[10:16] <Kawohi> I learned how to stream my music from my laptop to here, my desktop. this is great !
[10:16] <benzaldehyde> varis2: try ctrl+alt+f1
[10:16] <varis2> benza: yes that didn't work :-/
[10:17] <bullgard4> the_holstar: Please read 'man passwd'.
[10:17] <benzaldehyde> varis2: try alt+f1
[10:17] <dee|dee> bullgard4, i mean i don;t want gdm start on startup
[10:17] <dee|dee> just CLI
[10:17] <varis2> benza: to be exact, it gives me the console view but no shell/login
[10:17] <varis2> just... blinking white cursor on black screen
[10:17] <Flannel> bullgard4: Please don't tell people to rtfm.
[10:18] <benzaldehyde> varis2: try ctrl+c
[10:18] <ari__> s3r3n1t7,  For me the whole purpose to use this vpn service is to access internet without operator restrictions. And I can access net unrestricted trough this vpn service using win on my other pc. But ubuntu in laptop does not work correctly  and i can't access anything with vpn. without vpn I can.
[10:19] <bullgard4> dee|dee: If you do not login to gdm, the program gdm will not start.
[10:19] <varis2> benza: that is no use... but it has a text "authentication failure" printed a few times on the screen...
[10:19] <Flannel> the_holstar: System > Preferences > About Me, then "Change Password" ( https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/keeping-safe/C/passwords.html )
[10:19] <varis2> ctrl+d and a few others are no help too
[10:20] <s3r3n1t7> bullgard4, i think what you mean is, when you don't login to GDM then GDM will not start the startup applications. In order to login to GDM, it will have to be running
[10:20] <benzaldehyde> varis2: what were your parameters, you are working with a usb live version of desktop 10.04? 10.10? is it a custom build
[10:21] <varis2> it's pretty vanilla... how old is 10.04? I made this in dec or jan I think
[10:21] <varis2> and no special parameters of any kind afair
[10:21] <varis2> I just grabbed an image and made the usb
[10:21] <dee|dee> bullgard4,  I think u did't got the point. I don't want gdm stuff  start on startup. which mean no login with GUI stuff.
[10:22] <Kawohi> hey guys how do I uninstall openOffice?
[10:22] <coz_> deegee_,  you want automatic login ...yes?
[10:23] <s3r3n1t7> deegee_, so remove the executable bit from /etc/init.d/gdm
[10:23] <coz_> deegee_,  if automatic login is what you want,, open /system/administration/login screen
[10:24] <coz_> deegee_,  you can set the system to log in automatically from there
[10:24] <coz_> deegee_,  that should buypass gdm screen
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> dee|dee:  the 'text' option to the kernel can also start straight to console, no gdm, no plymouth.
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> but if you want login to X automatically. thats a gdm setting.
[10:27] <eamon> dee|dee: in /etc/rc.conf # out the line with /etc/xdm
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> or rename /etc/init/gdm.conf (i think) to be like gdm.DONTRUN
[10:29] <varis2> how long does it take for this dialog to time out, it's been sitting there for a few minutes?
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> varis2:  clarify what you mean. You got a 2nd irc nick here that you are waiting to die?
[10:30] <benzaldehyde> varis2: if i were you i'd try shutting down and go again but then let the password time out, if that sill does not do anything i don't know. i have never used a live cd. if there is a pre-boot like kboot to it you might try typing sh to get a shell and fsck the removable drive. not sure what to tell you. possibly do a badblocks scan on it from sh
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> If its a reg'd nick - you can kill it with the proper nickserv commands.
[10:31] <benzaldehyde> Dr_Willis: no
[10:31] <benzaldehyde> Dr_Willis: he is using the live cd
[10:31] <benzaldehyde> Dr_Willis: it asked him for a password and he left it blank and hit enter but nothing happened
[10:31] <varis2> hm sh as init might work :)
[10:32] <varis2> I'll try that, thanks
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> ive seen bad cd/iso/usb installs ask for a password for ubuntu on the live setup. but the password is blank. You could go to the console and set a password if you wanted
[10:32] <bouma> is the start of the drive faster? or the end? for the swap part?
[10:32] <bouma> the start is the outside isnt it?
[10:32] <benzaldehyde> Dr_Willis: so now he is trying to let it time out. when he tries to get to a shell it does not give a prompt and all attempts to ctrl+c or ctrl+d won't give him an area tologin
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  these days i dont think it matters that much. If you are using swap - thats a bigger slowdown then the drive speed differances.
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> by a HUGE factor.
[10:33] <bouma> so doesnt the platter move at a constant angular vel, hence faster linear at the outside?
[10:33] <bouma> Dr_Willis: right, but which ?
[10:33] <bouma> Dr_Willis: cause im partitioning for an install
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  the speed differances would be perhaps a few % vs a  HUGE hit when you do use swap.
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  its not really worth bothering about these days. I put swap at the end. its easier to work with there.
[10:34] <raven_> hi
[10:35] <varis2> oh dear, just added init=/bin/sh and now it says it disconnected from boot status daemon
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> (boot)(/)(/home)(Swap)
[10:35] <raven_> running 11.04 beta in virtualbox tells me hardware does not support unity. will this be fixed running it on a real machine?
[10:35] <benzaldehyde> varis2: i assume you are a he
[10:35] <benzaldehyde> varis2: if not sorry
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  unity needs 3d support. there is a Unity in the gdm login listing that does not need 3d.
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  check #ubuntu+1 channel for 11.04 support.
[10:35] <varis2> yes, np :)
[10:35] <raven_> ok
[10:36] <bouma> Dr_Willis: did a benchmark with "disk utility" and the graph goes from 70mb/s peak to 35mb/s, but the indepenent axis is 100%, what does that graph show exactly ?
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  no idea.
[10:37] <varis2> interesting, got some more errors, it says "sudo: unknown user: ubuntu"
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> could be its measuering speeda at the start/end.. but raw speed tests are often not very good mebchmarks.
[10:37] <bouma> Dr_Willis: thats the blue joined plot, there is a bunch of green points too for the right hand scale which is in ms not mb, i guess for seek time
[10:38] <bouma> Dr_Willis: so minimum 34mb/s, max 72mb/s, that seems worth choosing one over the other
[10:38] <varis2> there's casper-premount which is run during boot
[10:38] <varis2> hey cool, now I seem to have a shell
[10:39] <jamshid> hi
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  i doubt if you will notice any differance..  go ahead and do what you want.
[10:40] <jamshid> hello
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  if you are using swap at all. that will be a MUCH bigger hit on preformace then  where the swap is at. If you really want to optmize swap. Put it on a differnt hard drive.. or on several hard drives.
[10:40] <bouma> Dr_Willis: also its an old computer with only 512meg ram, so im a bit more concerned that its an extremely simple way of improving the worst case situation by not a few % but over 100%
[10:40] <jamshid> do you hear
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> jamshid:  we see you.
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  you would gain much more preformace by upping the ram if you can track more  down.
[10:41] <coz_> oy
[10:41] <bouma> Dr_Willis: consider if swap was on flash (which ive never tried) that is said to make a significant difference. i mean consider people say ssd's are the single biggest improvement theyve seen in years
[10:41]  * Dr_Willis has a large box of old ram collected from deat pc's
[10:41] <benzaldehyde> bouma: it has always been my impression that the disk spins faster the farther you get from the center
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  on my machines im rarely ever hitting swap.
[10:41] <coz_> bouma,  ah wouldnt that slow things  down
[10:42] <dee|dee> Dr_Willis, where should I put that option? I'm not  familiar with grub2 config
[10:42] <benzaldehyde> bouma: if you have ever burned a cd you might notice your drive quick up a few times nearing the end
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> dee|dee:  replace the 'quiet splash' option with 'quiet nosplash text' (or perhaps just text)
[10:42] <benzaldehyde> *kick up
[10:42] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  unfortunately I hit swap when edition large image files  120mets are larger
[10:42] <coz_> editing
[10:42] <coz_> 120megs
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> cd's can actually spin faster/slower. I think HD's are constant RPM.
[10:42] <coz_> darn fingers
[10:43] <bouma> Dr_Willis: true, but it would be second hand ram, cause its not made anymore, and ive had trouble finding any on ebay. and for some reason "vintage" stuff has now got a premium, you seen how much a good agp video card goes for, far more than what its worth vs the cheapest pcie card which is several times better
[10:43] <s3r3n1t7> Dr_Willis, close, when HD's are in use their RPM is constant, no matter where it's being read
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  ive tossed/given away all my old hardware. :) had to many
[10:43] <s3r3n1t7> Dr_Willis, however, a HD can be spin down when not in use
[10:43] <bouma> benzaldehyde: right but a cd starts from the inside, i know that. what im asking is, does a hdd start from the outside? i'm not sure
[10:43] <coz_> bouma,  whoa not agp cards arent that expensive right now  I bought one for one of my systems  6700gt for about $30
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> I DO think theres some newer 'green' hd's that can slow down partially also..
[10:43] <rajenfcy> I had installed Ubuntu 10.10 inside windows 2003. in WIndows I had a malware scan (spybot) followed by virus scan (Avira). Now the is not detected in BIOS. Disk had 3 partitions and other two partitions contain valuable data. Can anybody suggest how to overcome this problem. Thanking you. Rajen
[10:44] <coz_> bouma,  and that was new in the box
[10:44] <dee|dee> right, for grub 2 , what is the config file?. something like 'menu.lst' file on previous version
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> rajenfcy:  clarify that problem. I think somthing got lost in translation.
[10:44] <bouma> coz_: far out i would kill to get that exact card for that price. what country? i guess australia is a smaller market. perhaps it might be worth paying international postage on top, but i generally look locally and .. i'll look right now
[10:44] <coz_> bouma,  US
[10:45] <dee|dee> I just see a script on /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> dee|dee:  you can edit the boot line in the grub menu and replace the 'quiet splash' with 'text' or edit /etc/default/grub and rerun update-grub
[10:45] <s3r3n1t7> bouma, coz_, would you mind taking the chat about graphic cards to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> dee|dee:  notice the words at teh top of grub.cfg   *do not edit that file* :)
[10:45] <coz_> s3r3n1t7,  sorry  I know better
[10:45] <bender> hi, when i turn on the PC i notice that Ubuntu is ready in few seconds and my adsl modem is still wakeing up. So Ubuntu doesn't connect to the lan and never try again and in order to connect to the lan i have to say it manually and that's annoying. Can I do something to make Ubuntu 10.10 to scan for network cable periodically?
[10:46] <bouma> Dr_Willis: this isnt mine, its my uncles computer who doesnt want to spend any money on fixing it, and its over 10years old. but actually does everything he needs, runs linux beautifully, new 22" samsung lcd monitor mind you. torrent dont down load that fast that you need a core2 vs an old P4
[10:46] <dee|dee> Dr_Willis, got it
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> bender:  you could put a command in /etc/rc.local to restart networking after 15 sec or so perhaps.
[10:46] <atlef> dee|dee: a lot of useful info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[10:47] <ljsoftnet> how can i disable window grouping in dockbarx?
[10:47] <bender> Dr_Willis, thanx but how? You know that windows recognize a network when you plug and unplug the whire but ubuntu doesn't is it a bug or can i solve it some way?
[10:47] <rajenfcy> After doing malware and virus scan in windows. HDD failed to detected in BIOS. I have to discard the disk. Bu I am worried about the stored data
[10:47] <bouma> s3r3n1t7: ok, im not talking about that. i just wondered if anyone knew if the start or end of a hdd was faster. i just benchmarked and got min 34meg/s vs 72meg/s max and need every bit of speed i can on a 512meg ram p4. im partitioning now so im trying to proceed with the install. but if nobody knows.. i did try googling first but didnt get anywhere
[10:47] <benzaldehyde> bouma: i would not imagine the start sector starting at the outside in if that is what you are asking but i suppose it is possible
[10:48] <benzaldehyde> bouma: if you find out let me know
[10:48] <s3r3n1t7> bouma, i'm not talking about your benchmarking, that is a support question. However, you were also talking about the graphics card. I was only asking if you would take that subject to offtopic.
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> bender:  put  a command like 'sleep 20 && service networking restart' in /etc/rc.local
[10:48] <bouma> benzaldehyde: well the outside should be faster so it makes sense to me that in a hdd where the end is likely to be empty, so design them to use the outside first, ie the start of the drive.
[10:48] <bouma> s3r3n1t7: np
[10:49] <benzaldehyde> bouma: this might be mythbuster-worthy
[10:49] <bouma> benzaldehyde: but i dont actually know
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> if you got swap at one end.. and your datas at the other end.. and its accessing both..  that may make some cases worse.. then if swap was in the middle. :)
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> I recall huge threads on the topic of where to put swap years and years ago..
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> Put swap at both ends. :)
[10:49] <bender> Dr_Willis: ok, so what does this command do?
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> bender:  it restarts networking...
[10:50] <coz_> you can put swap on another drive,, not sure if that speeds things up
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> swap on a differnt HD would be a better case in most setups.
[10:50] <bender> Dr_Willis: each 20 seconds automatically?
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> bender:  speep 20 = waits 20 sec to restart networking..
[10:51] <bouma> Dr_Willis: ah but so far im thinking that the swap should go in partition 1, then the rest so that would actually be better according to the good point you just raised. whereas putting the swap at the end, a convention which i admit i generally used to do before this instance, would be the case of seeking from the /bin;/usr;... and swap, backwards and forwards from the start to the end
[10:51] <bender> Dr_Willis, ok I'll give a try :) thank you
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> rc.local is ran Once at boot up.. so the system boots..  then in the background  a few sec later.. networking will get restarted.. and hopefully your modem will be ready by then
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  now you know why It probetly wont matter. :0 theres to many other vbariables.. so it will depend on what the user is doing.
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> moar ram would boost system by reduceing swap used.. AND cacheing other data on the disk..   thats why moar ram is such a bonus.
[10:53] <rajenfcy> Dr. Willis: After doing malware and virus scan in windows it was shut down. Thereafter it could not restart. HDD failed to be detected in BIOS. I am forced to discard the disk. But am worried about the stored data
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> rajenfcy:  try putting the HD in a usb enclosure, or other machine, see if it can be seen/data revovered
[10:54] <coz_> Dr_Willis,   that wo uld be my suggestion as well
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> rajenfcy:  theres other tools out that can  try to recover data also.. unless you just want to trash it :)
[10:54] <benzaldehyde> Dr_Willis: swap is kind of like the blackbox of air travel, why not make the entire plane out of the black box if it is the only thing that survives the crash, 100 swap :D
[10:54] <benzaldehyde> *100 percent
[10:55] <coz_> rajenfcy,  are you worried about security  with the files on that drive?
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> benzaldehyde:  black box's can get destroyed..
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> and they are Bright Orange also..
[10:55] <varis2> bouma: 10 year old computers probably don't have the bus types required by modern ssd/hdd, which would otherwise increase swap performance quite a bit
[10:56] <rajenfcy> Dr. Willis: Thanks Dr. Willis. I tried that also. Today I tested HDD at two other machines and in an external USB drive using USB and later ethernet connections. It did not work.
[10:56] <coz_> rajenfcy,  are these files important or yyou are just concerned about them?
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> rajenfcy:  so.. whats the actual question/problem thjen? its dead... and...
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> take it apart. get some really really strong fridge magnets.. and some shiney mirrors. :)
[10:58] <coz_> rajenfcy,  if you are worried about the content on the drive and not the need to recover them..  use the platters for  a mobile..the platter separators as finger rings and the aluminum case can be taken to the junk yard and you will get about $1.00  for it :)
[10:59] <rajenfcy> Coz: files are important for my teaching and research related works. Its not their security but their utility. I have to redo many things.
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> rajenfcy:  so you WANT to recover the files.. you are saying?
[11:00] <coz_> rajenfcy,  ah ok... that is going to be an issue then,,, if it does get recognized via external u sb  connection... I dont have a solution..i know there are devices that can take the platters and read the content but I dont know of anyone in my area that owns one of them
[11:00]  * varis2 wonders if saying "halt" in init is a clean way to exit...
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> theres comercial data revovery serices also.
[11:00] <varis2> erm, saying exit
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> but those can be big $$
[11:00] <varis2> a clean way to reboot that is
[11:00] <coz_> for sure  Dr_Willis
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> varis2:  or the reboot command?
[11:01] <WaltherFI> Hello folks, what was the natty channel again?
[11:01] <atlef> ubuntu+1
[11:01] <WaltherFI> thankyou
[11:02] <coz_> rajenfcy,  when you get through this... keep in mind that if you are not ready to reinstall at an given moment,, its likely you didnt back up important information,,  I have been t hrough situations like this... painful at best
[11:02] <varis2> dr_willis: well none of those did anything .. I hope it synced :_)
[11:02] <rajenfcy> Dr. Willis: Yes recovering the data is my major concern. If there could be some way out. Thanks
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> rajenfcy:  comercial data recovery services.. and in teh future buy a few spare hd's for backup.. and online data backup services...
[11:03] <sporedi> there are 3 nic 1st is 3com = eth0 (100mb) 2nd id realtek =eth1 (100mb) 3rd is intel= eth3 giga (1000mb),
[11:03] <sporedi> i want change intel card to be assign as a eth0
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> 'a hard drive can die at ANY time' data wrth keepng is worth backingup.
[11:03] <coz_> just call me chopped liver :)
[11:03] <ljsoftnet> how can i disable window grouping in dockbarx?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> ljsoftnet:  check the settings? I thinkits in there.
[11:03] <varis2> hm so what happened to his drives?
[11:03] <atlef> rajenfcy: if you can get it detected in an usb enclosure, there is photorec/testdisk program that can help
[11:03] <varis2> not just lost partition table?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> ljsoftnet:  its also possible its a feature in newer versions of dockbarx.
[11:03] <sporedi> how do i chage nic id
[11:04] <ljsoftnet> Dr_Willis how do i do it?
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> ljsoftnet:  right click on the thang. chck its menus.  check its homepage/docs also..
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> !info dockbarx
[11:08] <van7hu> gnullib vs gnu C lib?
[11:08] <benzaldehyde> Dr_Willis: dogh mow are E got tow
[11:08] <benzaldehyde> *dough
[11:08] <benzaldehyde> mister ubottu
[11:09] <nixjr> i vaguely recall reading something about html5 and browsers passing the load onto the gpu not the cpu, does anyone know the same of the feature needed by your gfx card to support this?
[11:09] <rajenfcy> Dr. Willis: Yes, I used to back up on CD,s and DVDs but this time it was long pending.
[11:12] <MopperWhite> 请问这是什么状况？http://paste.pocoo.org/show/368396/
[11:12] <Ben64> So I was wgetting a large (8GB) file. I accidentally deleted it without realizing, and now its almost done, but the file is deleted, but still sort of there. Is there any way I can make a hard link to it given the inode number? it's still opened by wget so the inode is easy to find.
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> rajenfcy:  with the cheap cost of online storage these days. Its worth using
[11:14] <bouma> hey, in the alternate installer there are these choices of typical usage of a partition, there is news/standard/large/large4, what is standard ? it says what the others are ? also what is the typical size of file on a fresh system partition? i guess its bigger than news which is one inode per 4k block
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  if you knwo the inode, i think ln can use that info.. but ive not ever tried it.
[11:14] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: i couldn't find anything on the subject in the man page
[11:15] <nixjr> I've answered mny own question with some googling, the graphic card must support Direct3D 10.1 and/or Direct3D 10 Feature Level 9
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  i seem to recall it somewhere in the books i read ages ago. but I may be thinking of some other command.
[11:15] <bouma> btw i found that the first cylinder is the outside of the drive/fastest part, for what its worth.
[11:15] <ks07> hey guys, a while back I backgrounded a continuous loop on my server... just realised it's still running!  I have a sort of solution by copying it from /proc/<stuff> to another partition, but i wonder if theres an easier way since it already exists on one drive.
[11:16] <ks07> fg says no such job, its odd
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> ks07:  perhaps you started it in a differnt shell. check the jobs command perhaps.
[11:17] <ks07> nothing coming from jobs either... what did I do?! xD
[11:18] <rajenfcy> Atlef: Thanks for this information let me try photorec/testdisk.
[11:19] <atlef> rajenfcy: good luck
[11:19] <benzaldehyde> Dr_Willis: i was pretty suprised to see my printer didn't need a driver to print, even in windows i need to go to epson and download a driver and a bunch of software. it is one of those print to cd printers and apparently gimp does print to cd so no need for epson print cd software
[11:21] <coe> ma can't used my desktop effect am used lenovo g460
[11:21] <coe> anyide for my problem...
[11:21] <coe> this troble, make me so hard work
[11:21] <benzaldehyde> coe: no idea
[11:22] <coe> Desktop effects could not be enabled
[11:22]  * van7hu is using g450 :)
[11:22] <coe> please help
[11:23] <van7hu> coe: what is your problem, maybe I could help
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[11:24] <coe> van7hu, am used ubuntu 10.10 and this my proble Desktop effects could not be enabled < am used lenovo g460>
[11:24] <Deadglow> i was trying to install ubuntu and on the partition resize screen it just freezes.  any way round this?
[11:24] <coe> this problem be for can i solve it, but am not make documentation of it.
[11:24] <coe> please van7hu help me...
[11:25] <ljsoftnet> how do i uninstall dockbarx?
[11:26] <coe> van7hu, am used ubuntu 10.10 and this my proble Desktop effects could not be enabled < am used lenovo g460>
[11:27] <adana1>  hi people, i use redhat enterprise version, i forget my root password, i tried to recovery from console. i change root password. now i can login X window and all commands, when i try pass GUI screen kde and gnome i put my password and username that i changed, but it doesnt login desktop, how can i fix this problem ? none answer in linux and redhat channel this is why i ask this question in this chan.
[11:27] <van7hu> coe try this first: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/desktop-effects/C/compiz-configure.html
[11:27] <van7hu> I am using 10.04, so I could not test it
[11:28] <oCean> adana1: it's still offtopic here
[11:28] <coe> van7hu, all my grafich brokend
[11:29] <manitu> hi there.. a friend of mine updated his system and now he can't choose 1280x1024 on one of two screens (he uses KDE, also asked in #kubuntu)
[11:29] <coe> am still can't used my desktop effect couse my vga not support may be...
[11:29] <coe> am used intel vga
[11:29] <zarbula> Do you guys know of a way, if I have two SSH connections to my server, if I want to reconnect to a running application, like irssi how to I switch back into a running terminal application? (does that make sence?)
[11:29] <coe> i think
[11:30] <coe> ikonia, am need you ide, for my ubuntu 10.10 am can't used my desktop effect and am used ubuntu 10.10
[11:30] <ikonia> coe: ?
[11:30] <ikonia> coe: I'm a bit busy at the moment, sorry
[11:31] <adana1>  hi people, i use redhat enterprise version, i forget my root password, i tried to recovery from console. i change root password. now i can login X window and all commands, when i try pass GUI screen kde and gnome i put my password and username that i changed, but it doesnt login desktop, how can i fix this problem ? none answer in linux and redhat channel this is why i ask this question in this chan.
[11:31] <coe> oke ikonia that fine
[11:33] <h4xx0r> .
[11:33] <van7hu> coe: I am sorry, I don't know :), I don't use much graphic
[11:33] <coe> van7hu, that fine thank for you respond me...
[11:34] <coe> h4xx0r, you may be can help me...
[11:34] <staar2> why i cannot not do this sudo cp /var/lib/backuppc/* ~ ?
[11:34] <ljsoftnet> how do i uninstall dockbarx?
[11:34] <patryk_> cze
[11:34] <patryk_> Hello
[11:34] <patryk_> siema
[11:34] <patryk_> jest tu kots?
[11:34] <coe> ljsoftnet, sudo apt-get remove dockbarx
[11:34] <patryk_> ????????????
[11:34] <patryk_> ?
[11:35] <FloodBot3> patryk_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <patryk_> ??
[11:35] <oCean> !pl | patryk_
[11:35] <patryk_> ?
[11:35] <patryk_> ?
[11:35] <patryk_> ?
[11:35] <patryk_> /
[11:35] <patryk_> ?
[11:35] <FloodBot1> patryk_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <FloodBot3> patryk_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <coe> h4xx0r, you are real hacker kekeeke please test my site : www.acehdev.net kekekekek
[11:35] <ikonia> coe: please don't ask for that sort of thing here
[11:36] <h4xx0r> hahahah
[11:36] <h4xx0r> lol
[11:36] <coe> ikonia, oke oke, am so sure see h4xx0r on chanell ikonia
[11:36] <coe> l0l
[11:36] <ikonia> coe: yes, it's just a nickname
[11:36] <bsod1> hi, I have 6gb memory but 32bit ubuntu shows 3gb, is there a way to use all of my memory in 32bit ubuntu or do I have to install 64bit?
[11:37] <ljsoftnet> how do i uninstall dockbarx?
[11:37] <coe> ikonia, sorry am sorry
[11:38] <meisth0th> hello
[11:38] <coe> meisth0th, hello
[11:38] <oCean> !pae | bsod1
[11:38] <coe> !
[11:38] <bsod1> oCean, thanks
[11:38] <meisth0th> if i install natty beta and update when natty is out, will i get stable natty?
[11:39] <atlef> meisth0th: yes
[11:39] <coe> yes
[11:39] <oCean> !final | meisth0th
[11:39] <galerien> hi, witch program would you use to write html / Php ?
[11:39] <meisth0th> thanks
[11:39] <meisth0th> galerien, geany, gedit
[11:40] <meisth0th> i would give geany a try, it's very good
[11:40] <galerien> I hate gedit, I'll try geany (I just want to avoid kate, because of Kde packages)
[11:41] <student3> can sb say how to add panel to ubuntu by terminal?
[11:41] <meisth0th> galerien, there is also another option: komodo edit, which is also free -as in freedom-
[11:41] <meisth0th> galerien, it's not packaged by has a very easy installer and auto-update feature
[11:41] <meisth0th> s/by/but
[11:42] <galerien> komodo, let's see
[11:42] <meisth0th> galerien, not komodo, it has two version with name komodo, komodo edit and komodo ide. komodo edit is the free one
[11:43] <galerien> ok, thanks
[11:44] <userdel> is there any package which will determine root of mobile phones including it's operating system?
[11:44] <meisth0th> you're welcome
[11:44] <ljsoftnet> coe, cannot find package
[11:46] <coe> package what ljsoftnet
[11:46] <userdel> is there any package which will determine root of mobile phones including it's operating system?
[11:47] <ljsoftnet> coe, when i sudo apt-get remove dockbarx, it says cannot find package
[11:47] <galerien> I'll install netbeans instead
[11:50] <coe> ljsoftnet, try google am no ide for that... sorry
[11:50] <ljsoftnet> coe ok
[11:51] <spirals> userdel, what are you trying to accomplish?
[11:51] <userdel> spirals : i want to know os of mobile.
[11:51] <spirals> userdel, what mobile
[11:52] <ljsoftnet> how do i uninstall dockbarx?
[11:53] <userdel> spirals : i have 3-4 mobiles.
[11:53] <spirals> userdel, google their models to find the os?
[11:54] <spirals> userdel, tuxmobil.org is a phone oriented distro, dunno if that's relevant
[11:55] <spirals> userdel, if the phones are on the wireless LAN you could also nmap them and maybe get vendor/OS id that way
[11:55] <userdel> spirals: they are on bluetooth
[11:56] <userdel> spirals:  can i know where they will be mounted if on bluetooth. i just installed kmobiletools
[11:56] <fi8er1> !test
[11:57] <spirals> userdel, not sure for KDE
[11:57] <coe> oke no ide for my problem...
[11:57] <sharkk> hi, do someone knows how to disable a function key on a notebook? i'm too frustrated to try to make it work... damn samsung
[12:02] <coolmego> any GRUB developer????
[12:03] <coolmego> am trying to make graphical boot loader like SUSE...helping hands needed
[12:04] <coolmego> its for ubuntu
[12:04] <coolmego> maverick
[12:04] <ljsoftnet> how do i uninstall dockbarx?
[12:05] <coe> help
[12:05] <coolmego> <ljsoftnet : use google lol
[12:05] <ry> what is an option for cloning a drive in ubuntu (not the system drive sata->usb drive) but not bit for bit, just the used areas -- or can that be done with dd? -- partimage and partclone i've had issues with
[12:05] <coe> am need you help for fix my Desktop effectk
[12:05] <coolmego> coh  : what happened
[12:05] <ljsoftnet> coolmego i already did
[12:06] <coe> yest, not alll problem can solve with google.com kekekeke
[12:07] <coolmego>  ljsoftne: which flavor u using???
[12:07] <anfab> hi all, am new to ubuntu and have to stupidly modified the /etc/environment files on my fresh ubuntu 10.04 install..now i cant login..it just comes back to login screen after entering the password..can anyone please guide me if this can be fixed or not?
[12:08] <JEEB> anfab, can you log in via ctrl+alt+f1 or f2?
[12:08] <JEEB> as in tty1 or tty2
[12:10] <anfab> was not aware of that option..however i tried with gnome failsafe at the botton and tried with recovery mode to modify the environment file again but it din let me
[12:10] <ljsoftnet> how do i uninstall dockbarx?
[12:10] <anfab> am sorry if i sound silly, always been on windows earlier
[12:10] <coolmego> ljsoftnet which distro u using???
[12:11] <ljsoftnet> ubuntu
[12:11] <JEEB> anfab, just log in in a way you can log in (if failsafe works then it, otherwise tty)
[12:11] <ljsoftnet> coolmego i mean xubuntu
[12:11] <bobusumisu> Anyone that can help with a boot-issue that occured after updating 10.10 -> 11.04?  ALL tips are welcome.
[12:11] <JEEB> then sudo nano or vim or whatever text editor you use and edit /etc/environment to remove your modifications :P
[12:11] <muneeb> Please help! xsane: error while loading shared libraries: libgimp-2.0.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[12:12] <muneeb> i have another program that requires 32bit libgimp
[12:12] <anfab> JEEb, failsafe does not work..let me try tty..
[12:12] <coolmego> ljsoftnet : if it has its software center in Applications...search foe the package and uninstall it
[12:12] <JEEB> anfab, you _do_ remember what the eff'd up, right?
[12:12] <Syria> Hello, How can I update my current version of gnome to the latest version? Meerkat 10.10
[12:12] <JEEB> s/the/you/
[12:12] <ljsoftnet> coolmego its not in software center
[12:13] <anfab> yes..i remember what i messed up
[12:13] <atlef> ljsoftnet: sudo apt-get remove dockbarx
[12:13] <JEEB> anfab, can you use vim or nano?
[12:13] <JEEB> as in, some command-line text editor?
[12:13] <anfab> yes i can use vim
[12:13] <JEEB> ok
[12:13] <JEEB> then just log in via tty1 if only possible
[12:13] <ljsoftnet> atlef it says ...cannot find package...
[12:14] <anfab> jeeb, okay..feel even more dumb asking this..how do i login via tty1?
[12:14] <coolmego> ljsoftnet did u used terminal???
[12:14] <JEEB> anfab, ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't bring you to a black screen with the login prompt?
[12:14] <ljsoftnet> coolmego yes
[12:14] <coolmego> sudo apt-get remove dockbarx
[12:15] <ljsoftnet> coolmego it says ...cannot find package...
[12:15] <anfab> need to try that..am on windows login now ..let me try that
[12:15] <anfab> thanks jeeb
[12:15] <atlef> ljsoftnet: try sudo apt-get remove DockbarX
[12:16] <ljsoftnet> atlef still the same
[12:16] <Kawohi> Hey can anyone help me install Global Menu http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/wiki/InstallingonUbuntu
[12:16] <krishnasut> Hi all
[12:16] <kleopatra> Can anyone tell me where i should put an .vimrc file? I dont know what path it should have
[12:17] <swatto> Please can someone recommend a good book for learning bash scripting or shall I stick to python scripting?
[12:17] <iceroot> kleopatra: in your home
[12:17] <iceroot> swatto: #bash
[12:17] <atlef> ljsoftnet: try apt-cache search dockbarx, if it is not there, then it is not installed through apt
[12:18] <ljsoftnet> atleft i installed it by ./setup.py
[12:18] <kleopatra> iceroot: simply create a   ~/.vimrc file?
[12:18] <iceroot> kleopatra: yes
[12:18] <kleopatra> iceroot: thx
[12:18] <iceroot> kleopatra: if you dont want a global vimrc
[12:19] <kleopatra> no i dont want to change the /etc/.vimrc
[12:19] <Kawohi> "Open System → Administration → Software Sources and press Third Party Software" I can't find it
[12:19] <atlef> ljsoftnet: look here: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/there-is-no-setuppy-uninstall/
[12:21] <Syria> @gnome
[12:21] <Syria> !gnome
[12:23] <Benkinooby> hi, might be this is ot but I'll give t a shot: does anyone know if there is ubuntu software for small scale businesses... for keeping control of stock etc.
[12:24] <phonex01> hello guys
[12:24] <phonex01> how can i connect my laptop to TV using S-video port ? im using ubuntu
[12:25] <phonex01> i connected the cable but nothing on the TV
[12:25] <phonex01> !
[12:26] <giraffro> Hey, I have a quick question - Is the update notifier show supposed to show in the notification area when logged in as a desktop user?
[12:28] <manOwl> does anyone here make use of evolution calendar
[12:28] <manOwl> like seriously
[12:28] <manOwl> i'm trying to use it
[12:28] <manOwl> and it's not super intuitive
[12:28] <manOwl> i could use a quick start
[12:29] <giraffro> manOwl: I do. What do you want to know?
[12:29] <manOwl> giraffro: on the right pane I have "tasks"
[12:29] <manOwl> giraffro: how can I designate a block of time to one of those
[12:29] <manOwl> or is that more of a todo
[12:29] <manOwl> should I use appointments for this?
[12:31] <AntiSociaL> hmm
[12:31] <hasnain> i need help to remove permissions in x11vnc please help
[12:32] <hasnain> i cant connect remotely due to permissions
[12:32] <manOwl> hasnain: what error?
[12:32] <JEEB> hmm, the default CJK font in Ubuntu was changed back to a crappy Chinese one (that isn't exactly readable in the terminal) in 10.10 , how can I make it use the older font (used in 9.10 and 10.04 -- and on the Japanese locale in 10.10)?
[12:33] <giraffro> manOwl: I use it as a todo. You can add start and due dates, but it doesn't show up in the calendar.
[12:34] <manOwl> giraffro: where's the new calendar button?
[12:35] <giraffro> It's in the dropdown list to the right of the "New" button
[12:35] <manOwl> ah
[12:36] <manOwl> didn't even see that
[12:36] <manOwl> thanks!
[12:37] <ars3n1c> hey, how would I go about moving just a single user's /home to a new partition? i've found the guides for moving the entire directory (therefore all users), but in my case this needs to be for a single user, hopefully not in a way that will cause any issues installing new software and such. assuming, of course, it's even possible?
[12:37] <giraffro> manOwl: np
[12:37] <extor> I've got some process with a file lock on a partition that I want to unmount, is there a command that can help me find the PID which has that lock so I can kill the PID?
[12:37] <placki4ever> Hello. Can someone help me compile m560x driver for my camera? Make errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/591689/   I've got Lubuntu 10.10
[12:38] <anonops666> boh
[12:38] <swatto> Hello, how do you move the system tray in ubuntu 10.10? atm ive got my Xchat icon, bluetooth and LAN icons at the top but i want them at the bottom and dont appear to be able to move them?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> extor: try:  lsof | grep something       change 'something' to something like the mount point or somesuch, also make sure your pwd is NOT in the mount point as this will lock it too
[12:39] <extor> yeah pwd isnt in the mount point
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> swatto: right click the item -> unlock item then right click and move
[12:39] <extor> Im trying to think like wtf could be doing this besides a stale ssh session since this box has 66 days uptime
[12:39] <cyril_> Hello, I would like advice about memory required to install ubuntu server 10.04 + apache tomcat with mediawiki / phpBB3 / subversion. I want a test server for developing web apps in java. Is 2Gb of RAM enough for such a test server?
[12:39] <Peddy> in Pidgin, is it possible to get a notification when a buddy signs in?
[12:39] <kun> ？？？
[12:40] <kun> 水在呢阿
[12:40] <extor> yes you can have pidgin do a buddy pounce
[12:40] <rr0hit> Peddy, extor Buddy pounce sends a message to the user, i guess. not provide u a notification
[12:41] <swatto> ActionParsnip: Thankyou :) i dont see the seperators very well because of my theme
[12:41] <hasnain> how to remove permission to connect on x11vnc
[12:42] <hasnain> how to remove permission to connect on x11vnc
[12:43] <apassi> hi, is there a way to install new latest ubuntu from current ubuntu to new partition, without restarting with installation disk etc.
[12:43] <redlin3e> Anyone know what is the maximum core support in ubuntu 10.04?
[12:43] <Peddy> rr0hit, thanks, the libnotify plugin does what I need.
[12:44] <JEEB> redlin3e, whatever the used kernel can support?
[12:44] <rr0hit> Peddy: that gives u a notification for all buddies. not any particular one. right?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[12:45] <Peddy> rr0hit, yeah, and that's what I needed. Buddy Pounces requires a lot of configuration, but is more powerful I suppose
[12:45] <hasnain> how to remove permission to connect on x11vnc
[12:45] <rr0hit> Peddy: buddy pounce sends the user a message as and when he logs in. its not difficult to configure at all !!
[12:46] <rr0hit> Peddy: but thats not what u want i suppose
[12:46] <hasnain> how to remove permission to connect on x11vnc
[12:46] <ylmfos> hello
[12:46] <redlin3e> JEEB: well then it should be 64 :/ Any idea why i only get 20 cores with HT. Should be 6 cores on each cpu so then it would show 24 cores but only shows 20.
[12:47] <schnoomac> Hello all. I have ubuntu on a VM on my mac system. I have shared a few drives and they all show up in /mnt/hgfs/** i was wondering the proper way to mount them into my home folder. I cant remember the exact correct mount command
[12:47] <anfab> hi
[12:48] <erUSUL> redlin3e: which cpu is this?
[12:48] <Tagah> Salut
[12:48] <Tagah> #ubuntu-fr
[12:49] <brandonc503_> so did you all see my password up there?
[12:49] <redlin3e> erUSUL: xeon e5620 2.4 ghz
[12:49] <BluesKaj> schnoomac, this gives write permissions as well, mount -o remount,rw /path/to/drive
[12:49] <benzaldehyde> redlin3e: awesome
[12:50] <brandonc503_> test
[12:50] <pocoyo> brandonc503_: 中国一留学生去美国打工的当过报童，不带计算器，习惯动作抬头望天时心算找零。顾客大为惊讶，纷纷掏出计算器验证，皆无误，也抬头望天，惊恐问：云计算？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=267605 :-)
[12:50] <schnoomac> BluesKaj: You are not telling it where to mount to though
[12:50] <erUSUL> redlin3e: 8 cores on each cpu ( 4 * 2 ) according to docs.
[12:51] <anfab> am new to ubuntu and am trying to get jdk installed but facing issues..on synaptic package manager i get this error " Depends: sun-java6-bin but it is not going to be installed" on terminal when i try i get "sun-java6-jdk: Depends: sun-java6-bin (>= 6.24-1build<IP_ADDRESS>) but it is not going to be installed "
[12:51] <schnoomac> damn internet.... Yeah and idea how to BluesKaj
[12:51] <anfab> please helo
[12:51] <anfab> help*
[12:52] <erUSUL> !java | anfab
[12:53] <anfab> ubottu : thanks..let me try that
[12:53] <benzaldehyde> domo arigato mister ubottu
[12:53] <redlin3e> erUSUL: oh, i thought it was 6 cores on each cpu. But then it should be 8 threads on each cpu and should show 16 cores in ubu but shows 20 :)
[12:53] <rushabhtechie55> help needed on ubuntu..
[12:53] <rushabhtechie55> where to go?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> schnoomac, sudo mount -t filesstem -o force /dev/sdaX /mnt
[12:54] <benzaldehyde> rushabhtechie55: here, the forums, the main site, take your pick
[12:54] <anfab> it throws this error.."sun-java6-plugin: Depends: sun-java6-bin (>= 6.24-1build<IP_ADDRESS>) but it is not going to be installed "
[12:54] <atlef> !ask | rushabhtechie55
[12:54] <rushabhtechie55> ohk...cool thanks
[12:54] <rushabhtechie55> allright
[12:55] <Looksvivek> hello
[12:57] <ljsoftnet> when i "sudo cat files.txt | xargs rm -rf" why doesn't it get deleted, it says "Permission Denied"
[12:57] <anfab> ubottu : getting an error..http://pastebin.com/2tJMFr9r
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: does sudo transcend the pipe?
[12:57] <benzaldehyde> anfab: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner
[12:57] <derango> hey people, can someone give me a hand in disabling x in startup?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> derango: add the boot option:  text
[12:58] <benzaldehyde> anfab: for /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:58] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip i didn't get what you said
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: could cover all by running: sudo -i    then run your command
[12:58] <anfab> benzaldehyde : did that..still getting the errro
[12:58] <anfab> error*
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: for example:  cat "text" > /usr/bin/file   will NOT work, sudo does not transcend the > character, the correct way is:  cat "text" | sudo tess /usr/bin/file
[12:59] <benzaldehyde> ljsoftnet: probably because you do not have sudo in the wrong spot
[12:59] <benzaldehyde> *do
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: this puts sudo on the left side of the operator, do you know if pipes need similar treatment??
[12:59] <benzaldehyde> ljsoftnet: try it on the other side of |
[12:59] <Z0f> Hi all - I already have ubuntu installed, and use LUKS full disk encryption - I want to install backtrack linux (dual boot) ; can this be done without reinstalling ubuntu?
[12:59] <derango> ActionParsnip could you give me some guides for that? which file do I have to modify?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> derango: /etc/default/grub    add it in the quotes with:   quiet splash    save the new file and run: sudo update-grub    you could have found that with some very basic websearches....
[13:00] <derango> ActionParsnip thanks
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> derango: if you try and websearch a little based on the directio rather than immediately asking, you will learn your OS faster :D
[13:01] <derango> ActionParsnip I did
[13:02] <apassi> anyone? is there a ubuntu installer in ubuntu?
[13:02] <DavidJonas> anyone with experience on installing ipmitool on 10.10 Server Edition and getting it work properly?
[13:03] <anfab> please help me install jdk on ubuntu 10.04 am getting http://pastebin.com/2tJMFr9r when i use the cmd line.. and error while doing it throug the synaptic manager as well..i have updated the repositories as well
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> apassi: how do you mean?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> anfab: is that after adding the partner repo?
[13:04] <apassi> ActionParsnip: i have a ubuntu, where i like to run this installer, which install newer version to other partition
[13:04] <anfab> ActionParsnip: yes
[13:04] <cykonax> кря всем=)
[13:04] <dr0id> can someone explain me what this is exactly -> http://pastie.org/private/bcsbx4uoeytcxlwr8pw ?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> apassi: I believe you will need to boot to an install CD
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> anfab: I suggest you log a bug then
[13:05] <dr0id> hi ActionParsnip
[13:05] <cykonax> Hello. Who speak russian?
[13:05] <jrib> !ru | cykonax
[13:05] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip it worked it deleted dockbarx
[13:05] <dr0id> !ru | dr0id
[13:05] <anfab> ActionParsnip : i am new to ubuntu and linux ..am just not sure if am doing something wrong or it is a bug
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: you just connected to an SSH server, the text you see is you accepting the key used to encrypt your future sessions with as far as I'm aware
[13:05] <jrib> DavidJonas: you should just tell us your question/problem
[13:06] <apassi> ActionParsnip: that is sad..
[13:06] <dr0id> hmm
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> anfab: try:   sudo apt-get -f install
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> apassi: why?
[13:06] <dr0id> ActionParsnip: so there's that key on my PC and on the server that is matched everytime I do anything via SSH to make sure no one is trying to cheat/haxor ?
[13:06] <raylee> hi i have an problem with flash on ubuntu 9.10
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: everytime you use that particular server it will use the key you just got. If you connect to other servers you will get the key there too.
[13:07] <anfab> ActionParsnip : done that as well
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: it's use to encrypt all the data you send, hence secure-shell
[13:07] <Abhijit> hi
[13:07] <dr0id> ok, thanks
[13:08] <atlef> !flash | raylee
[13:08] <Abhijit> how/where to find mac address? i have to assign it to my laptop and mobile?
[13:08] <raylee> hi i need help with my ubuntu linux please
[13:08] <Abhijit> !details | ray24
[13:08] <Abhijit> raylee, ^^^^
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> anfab: try:   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[13:08] <apassi> ActionParsnip: because there shouldnt be any limits to install latest versio to second partition online
[13:08] <raylee> hi i am have ab
[13:08] <mah454> Hello  ...
[13:08] <dr0id> ...
[13:09] <mah454> I need gnome3 repository .
[13:09] <raylee> hi i have an problem with flash i am using ubuntu 9.10 when i open up my web broswer its keep crashing
[13:09] <ameen> hallo semuanya....
[13:09] <bunower> how to install Grub2 without destroying mbr?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> apassi: I can't think of an OS you can do that in, technically it should be be possible as the liveCD is just ubuntu running in RAM but I'n not sure it's doable. You could make a VM and install a test ubuntu to a portion of a virtual drive, then try running ubiquity to then install to the other part
[13:10] <dr0id> raylee: upgrade, lol
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> apassi: if it works, do the same on your own PC.
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> raylee: can you give the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l | grep flash      Thanks
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> raylee: use a pastebin to hold the text
[13:10] <DavidJonas> well. I just got this server to admin... I am an experienced dev but new to admin. I installed ipmitool and it cant find the device. So I think I have to load modules ipmi_devintf and ipmi_si. That means reboot right? I am on remote and 100Km away. If it doesn't boot I have to travel. is there a way to load the modules without a reboot?
[13:10] <ameen> good night for all...
[13:11] <ameen> i am from Indonesia...
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> DavidJonas: sudo modprobe modulename
[13:11] <anfab> ActionParsnip : did that..getting this now..
[13:11] <anfab> http://pastebin.com/9RND0zuw
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> DavidJonas: if you put the module name in /etc/modules   it will be loaded at boot too :)
[13:11] <DavidJonas> ActionParsnip, thanks a lot!
[13:12] <Greenthy> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu/linux and just installed 11.04, however it doesn't look like how the live demo looked (it doesn't have the side bar but a bottem bar) how can i change it ?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> !natty | Greenthy
[13:12] <Greenthy> k ty
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> DavidJonas: you can remove modules with:  sudo modprobe -r modulename
[13:13] <DavidJonas> ActionParsnip, you're awesome :)
[13:14] <Abhijit> how to find and change mac adress of my laptop running lucid 64 ibt?
[13:14] <Abhijit> bit
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> DavidJonas: thanks 8-) spreading the love
[13:14] <apassi> ActionParsnip: it is possible already in usb cd, i can start a ubuntu from it, and there is this installer program at desktop. There is no need to create VM and play with those, because there is already working installation software, but it is on installed CD, now why it is not distributed with APT?? I have already installed ubuntu distros to own LVM partitions, many years now, and now i like to install 10.10 to its own paritition, from my current 10.04
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/
[13:14] <mah454> I need gnome3 repository .
[13:14] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, thanks
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> mah454: which release do you have?
[13:15] <apassi> ActionParsnip: and i am installing distors to own paritition, because i dont start to play with upgrade, if it mess my settings, i have a hell of job to fix it..
[13:15] <Abhijit> mah454, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/gnome-3-released-to-be-available-for-ubuntu-11-04-via-ppa/
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: thats for natty only
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> mah454: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/    is for maverick
[13:15] <Abhijit> okay
[13:15] <Fox`> when you click on a website link linking to a virus, your antivirus alerts you before you actually download it. what is the antivirus actually scanning; headers?
[13:16] <jrib> Fox`: not an ubuntu question
[13:16] <Abhijit> !ot | Fox`
[13:16] <mah454> tnx :)
[13:16] <Fox`> i don't believe there's an antivirus channel
[13:16] <bouma> giday does anyone know why during install (w/ alternate cd) it says its downloading some updated packages yet once installed it needs many updates?? why cant it be fullying uptodate on first boot? it would be more secure!
[13:16] <jrib> Fox`: not sure how that's relevant...
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> bouma: i'd say it was of the same security
[13:17] <Fox`> why does it matter? it's not that busy in here
[13:18] <bunower> How to install Grub2 without destroying MBR? Cause i have windows and MacOS, and one Partition with Linux but Windows owerrite MBR, now i want to reinstall GRUB 2, i wanna boot all 3 OS
[13:19] <dusf> notes i leave on dirs' properties using nautilus are not saving, how can one remedy this?
[13:19] <dusf> there is no apparent save button...
[13:19] <Gatuno> hello
[13:19] <bouma> bart! ActionParsnip drops some bs and leaves, sigh. its clearly insecure to install with many security updates needed
[13:20] <suigeneris> !find mail
[13:20] <Gatuno> I'm having some troubles getting my Ubuntu USB HDD to boot properly
[13:20] <Gatuno> can someone help me with that?
[13:20] <bunower> no one?
[13:21] <Abhijit> Gatuno, whats the error?
[13:21] <Elvisnake> I don't yet use HDD
[13:22] <awaad> Why Ubuntu will remove GNOME in the new releases ??????
[13:22] <Gatuno> The thing is, On my computer where the external is the only HDD, it is given the (hd0) mapping, but on other pc's its given numbers like (fd0), (hd1) or(hd2)
[13:23] <Gatuno> rendering grub unable to find the following stages
[13:23] <bunower> How to install Grub2 without destroying MBR? Cause i have windows and MacOS, and one Partition with Linux but Windows owerrite Grub 2, now i want to reinstall GRUB 2, i have installed rEFIt too
[13:24] <Ben64> bunower: you can't have two bootloaders in the mbr
[13:24] <bunower> because of that i installed Grub 2 to a partiton
[13:24] <Ben64> that should work
[13:24] <bunower> but now when i start ubuntu i get blacksreen and a white cursor
[13:25] <Ben64> well i don't know much about refit, but that is probably the problem
[13:26] <Gatuno> any ideas?
[13:26] <bunower> but without rEFIt i cant boot windows and MacOs
[13:27] <Ben64> you might be able to get it to boot linux directly
[13:27] <Ben64> again, not sure how it works
[13:28] <suigeneris> I use echo "test message"|mail -s "subject"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>on the command line but<EMAIL_ADDRESS>doesn't receive it and the e-mails ends up in the sender's inbox. any ideas?
[13:31] <ferrer3> hi. how to reduce brightness on sony vaio desktop @ ubuntu?
[13:32] <dusf> notes i leave on dirs' properties using nautilus are not saving, how can one remedy this? there is no apparent save button.
[13:32] <bullgard4>  /var/log.boot.log reports: "Starting mDNS/DNS-SD daemon" but System Monitor does not show such a daemon. How come?
[13:34] <becky> hi all, ubuntu on dell mini 10v....resolution used to be 1024x600 but something happened..now i get edid error and screen is 1024x768...no xorg.conf to edit in 10.10....any suggestions
[13:37] <Gatuno> Ubuntu on USB HDD... boot fine on a machine without internal HDD, fails to boot on any other machine
[13:37] <l333jie> what's this?
[13:38] <improveupon> hello. i feel like this question should be really easy... i upgraded to ubuntu 10.o4 kernel version 2.6.32-30 and now NetworkManager and nm-tool are not showing wlan0, only the wired connection. however, i tried to reinstall the driver for the wireless adapter from the live cd and they are showing already installed
[13:38] <improveupon> do i need to add the driver to the new kernel version in some way
[13:38] <zee313> how to install multi-language keyboard in ubuntu?
[13:38] <Abhijit> hi
[13:39] <Abhijit> the mac address allocated by ubuntu to eth0 and wlan 0, is it safe enouth to keep as it is? or is it recommended to change to custome?
[13:39] <Abhijit> help
[13:39] <Abhijit> !ibus | zee313
[13:39] <histo> Abhijit: the mac address is set on the card not by ubuntu
[13:40] <histo> Abhijit: do you mean the ip address?
[13:40] <Abhijit> histo, i see. no i mean mac address
[13:40] <bob__407> becky: are you getting any help?
[13:40] <histo> Abhijit: ?
[13:40] <improveupon> you can change the mac address other machines see
[13:40] <becky> improveupon i have had similar issue in the past....try googling as I cant remember steps to solve....but i think it had something to do with adding notifications area back or something
[13:40] <Abhijit> histo, so my mac address for my wlan and eth comes assigned from the manufacturer?
[13:40] <becky> bob_407 no one yet
[13:40] <histo> Abhijit: mac addresses are hard coded into the cards by the manufacturer
[13:40] <shuai> hello everyone
[13:40] <shuai> good
[13:40] <histo> Abhijit: yes
[13:40] <Abhijit> histo, okay. thanks.
[13:41] <mah454>  I have problem for Opening launchpad.net with firefox in ubuntu-10.10 .
[13:41] <mah454> receive this message : " I have problem for Opening launchpad.net with firefox in ubuntu-10.10 ."
[13:41] <becky> bob_407 i believe that if i had an xorg.conf with the right info for my screen 1024x600 would show up on list
[13:41] <histo> Abhijit: what are you trying to do?
[13:41] <bob__407> becky: try system/admin searching for drivers and see if it recommends a video driver for your system
[13:41] <histo> Abhijit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address
[13:41] <histo> Abhijit: the ip address is different
[13:41] <mah454> receive this message : "The connection was interrupted "
[13:42] <improveupon> becky: google "ubuntu 10.04 networkmanager add notifications area" then?
[13:42] <becky> bob_407 i have done that....no drivers....problem is that edid doesnt send all info or is corrupted
[13:42] <mah454>  I have problem for Opening launchpad.net with firefox in ubuntu-10.10 .
[13:42] <mah454> receive this message : "The connection was interrupted "
[13:42] <improveupon> nm
[13:42] <Abhijit> histo, i was just want to know that the default mac address assigned by manufature is enoush secure? because if we get combination permutation then there will be limited number of addresses? (as we end with ip address) so then it may happen that two or more devices may have same mac addresses?
[13:42] <Abhijit> histo, i know
[13:42] <becky> improveupon yes, maybe "lost network manager icon ubuntu 10.10 upgrade"
[13:43] <Abhijit> histo, i am not talking about ip i am talking about mac
[13:43] <histo> Abhijit: it doesn't matter in that regard
[13:43] <improveupon> it wasn't the maverick upgrade, just a kernel version
[13:43] <bob__407> becky: sorry that is all I know as I did that for my nvidea - I am not an expert, just a user
[13:43] <histo> Abhijit: unless you have trillions of network devices all on the same network
[13:43] <becky> ok thanks bob_407
[13:43] <improveupon> also, it isn't just the notifications area. nm-tool is not seeing the wireless adapter at all, only the nic
[13:43] <Abhijit> histo, okay
[13:44] <histo> Abhijit: your mac address isn't sent out over the net. The routers is
[13:44] <Gatuno> Can someone help me?
[13:44] <histo> Abhijit: then the router redirects the traffic when it gets back
[13:44] <Abhijit> histo, ok
[13:44] <Abhijit> yeah
[13:44] <becky> improveupon have u run hardware drivers while connected via wired ethernet
[13:45] <histo> Abhijit: 2 to the 48th power mac address availible
[13:45] <improveupon> no but synaptic says the driver for the wireless adapter is installed
[13:45] <Abhijit> histo, yeah
[13:45] <bunower> hi: i need help, to install Grub 2 without destroying MBR, because i am using, MacOS and windows
[13:45] <improveupon> bcmwl it's called
[13:46] <becky> try hardware drivers....also what kind of pc
[13:46] <improveupon> the pc is a dell laptop with an internal wireless adapter
[13:47] <schnoomac> Is there a different way of installing lamp-server in 10.10 seeing as tasksel isnt installed by default anymore
[13:47] <improveupon> i'm on the same one now but using windows
[13:47] <becky> so using sta broadcomm driver? or bw?
[13:47] <improveupon> sta
[13:47] <improveupon> yes
[13:47] <jfabrizio> !list
[13:47] <os4> hi
[13:48] <becky> i would try to stop using the driver....then logout back in and then reinstall from hardware drivers...
[13:48] <os4> please someone tell me how to change a login screen  for ubuntu 10.10 ??
[13:48] <improveupon> so go into synaptic, uninstall the package, reinstall it, and reboot?
[13:49] <Abhijit> os4, get ubuntu tweat - easy gui way
[13:50] <os4> ok will try
[13:50] <improveupon> i will try that but something tells me it won't work
[13:51] <jfabrizio> !list
[13:52] <phoenixsampras> when i change the ip address on gnome... it doesnt change?? is that a bug?
[13:52] <bonhoffer> after i added a hostname and typed useradd foo i get sudo: unable to resolve hostname, what does this mean?
[13:53] <dusf> notes i leave on dirs' properties using nautilus are not saving, how can one remedy this? there is no apparent save button.
[13:54] <phoenixsampras> BUG!! when i change the ip address on gnome network manager ... it doesnt change??  i do ifconfig eth0 and still the old address
[13:55] <Baron> What if i know others who know me
[13:56] <becky> improveupon, im suggesting from hardware drivers....not synaptic
[13:57] <mah454> I can not open launchpad.net in ubuntu-10.10 ...
[13:57] <mah454> why ?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> phoenixsampras, your gateway/router assigns the IP address,unless you change it in the router page
[14:00] <BluesKaj> phoenixsampras, NM can't change the IP afaik
[14:04] <mah454> can you open https://launchpad.net in firefox ?
[14:07] <phoenixsampras> BUG!! when i change the ip address on gnome network manager ... it doesnt change??  i do ifconfig eth0 and still the old address
[14:09] <iqpi> phoenixsampras: perhaps you have to do it as root
[14:09] <bonhoffer> how do i make bash the default shell for a new user
[14:10] <iqpi> bonhoffer: by adding the option -s /bin/bash
[14:10] <toluene> hi! I'm using ubuntu 10.10 with the kernel 2.6.35-22-server, is it possible the apt-get the kernel source tree that currently running on my server ? I can't find the source using apt-cache search
[14:11] <bonhoffer> iqpi: option to what?
[14:11] <iqpi> to create a user you have to do sudo useradd [options] newuser
[14:11] <iqpi> one of that options is -s to define the default shell
[14:11] <bonhoffer> got it -- so i just created the user
[14:11] <bonhoffer> already
[14:12] <iqpi> then usermod -s /bin/bash user
[14:12] <iqpi> wait one second
[14:12] <DavidJonas> anybody knows how to monitor/alert for hard disk failure in a hardware RAID system for ubuntu? tried megaraid but can't find a version for Ubuntu amd64
[14:13] <iqpi> bonhoffer: i was right, sudo usermod -s /bin/bash user
[14:13] <iqpi> DavidJonas: perhaps with hdparm?
[14:13] <iqpi> have to leave
[14:13] <toluene> I got it the package name is linux-soource
[14:14] <bonhoffer> iqpi: thanks!
[14:14] <iqpi> toluene: go to kernel.org and downloads the sources you want
[14:14] <erUSUL> DavidJonas: maybe the hardware raid maker has a special utility.
[14:15] <PeDor> Hi, gwibber it's duplicate in menu, I couldn't find any solution for it in foruns or launchpad, I'm using ubuntu maverick
[14:15] <toluene> iqpi, I think ubuntu have patched the kernel. That is the thing I want.
[14:17] <erUSUL> toluene: sudo apt-get install linux-source ?
[14:17] <erUSUL> !info linux-source
[14:17] <toluene> ubottu, thanks!
[14:18] <DavidJonas> iqpi, hdparm seems to only check the devices on the OS which are ok even if a hard drive fails
[14:18] <xtv> hi.. can someone tell me in ubuntu 1104 the binary packages i686 are built with which compilerflags.. -march -mtune -O?
[14:18] <alqaysar> hey
[14:21] <DavidJonas> erUSUL, the hardware maker has megacli on their site. anybody running it on Ubuntu amd64?
[14:21] <LarsTorben> #linuxsnowlinux
[14:21] <erUSUL> DavidJonas: not me, sorry.
[14:21] <DavidJonas> erUSUL, thanks anyway :)
[14:24] <achillion> So here's the thing. My screen wont dim automatically (i.e., by setting dim screen when on battery, or when idle). It DOES dim when I use my laptop's brightness controls (Fn+up/dn), however, the brightness popup doens't appear, as it does for volume. It used to be fine on Fedora, before I switched to Ubuntu. Any ideas? (Laptop: Lenovo Y560)
[14:24] <damno> f
[14:28] <sudipta> is it safe to install kde 4.6 in ubuntu 10.10 via backport?
[14:28] <mah454> How i can enable ssl in firefox ?
[14:29] <damno> I haven't tried
[14:30] <xtv> su -
[14:30] <erUSUL> mah454: should be already enabled
[14:30] <damno> mah454, look in  Edit>Preferences>advenced>encryption tab
[14:31] <mah454> no ... not enable ..
[14:31] <pooky> can anyone recommend a mpd client that auto populated via last.fm or something?
[14:31] <damno> mah454, look in  Edit>Preferences>advenced>encryption tab
[14:31] <pooky> sorry, that autopopulates playlists
[14:31] <damno> check the check box right to SSL
[14:31] <sudipta> is it safe to install kde 4.6 in ubuntu 10.10 via backport?
[14:32] <BlouBlou> sudipta: safe? anything is safe 100% via backports
[14:33] <sudipta> BlouBlou:r u using it?
[14:33] <VAIO> hay guys, I am having problems configuring my ZTE USB modem for CDMA in ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 beta1, it works fine in windows, ubuntu does not detect it
[14:33] <BlouBlou> no, I'm not
[14:33] <damno> BlouBlou, what is blackport?
[14:33] <damno> backport
[14:34] <BlouBlou> damno: backports are new software updates, instead of old ones patched
[14:34] <BlouBlou> instead of firefox 3 patched, you would be able to update firefox to firefox 4, but it's not 100% safe
[14:34] <damno> BlouBlou, ooh. but can I switch btwin kde and gnome then ?
[14:35] <BlouBlou> damno: if you have both, yes
[14:36] <sudipta_> is anyone using kde4.6
[14:36] <VAIO> hay guys, I am having problems configuring my ZTE USB modem for CDMA in ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 beta1, it works fine in windows, ubuntu does not detect it, i think its something wrong with usb mode switch
[14:36] <marcelc> hello, if I wish to install kde, apt-get install kde-full is okay?
[14:36] <iceroot> marcelc: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:37] <damno_> BlouBlou,  and choose while login?
[14:37] <sudipta_> is anyone using kde4.6?
[14:37] <marcelc> kubuntu-desktop have some tweak's for speed&custom settings or just customization's as wallpaper, logo?
[14:38] <damno_> btw, gnome3 will be released nxt week
[14:38] <marcelc> damno_, cool! :)
[14:38] <BlouBlou> damno_: Yes, you'll be able to swicht between them in login-screen
[14:38] <damno_> there are prtty hype abt gnome3
[14:39] <marcelc> how can be the console font changed in ubuntu, when you press ctrl+alt+F1/F2,F3?
[14:39] <arand> damno_: It's already out, fyi
[14:39] <damno_> aranr, really?
[14:39] <krux> yep
[14:39] <BlouBlou> marcelc: it will open a fullscreen-terminal
[14:40] <sudipta_> hey ,is anyone using kde4.6?
[14:40] <marcelc> mm
[14:40] <BlouBlou> are called "tty"
[14:40] <damno_> sudipta, try gnome3
[14:40] <damno_> is it out  really?
[14:40] <marcelc> okay, I;ll google later for tty settings
[14:41] <damno_> the scrshots are lookin awesome
[14:42] <marcelc> I saw that ubuntu boot's very diffrent from other distro;s as fedora, slack, gentoo, debian, freebsd etc. I mean, when you boot them usually see a lot of text running on screen, but in ubuntu dektop there are just some dot's blinking. why is that? dose have some connection with init script's?
[14:43] <arand> marcelc: fedora uses a graphical boot as well... It is related to plymouth
[14:43] <damno_> marcelc, they want to make it seem less forrible to casual users :)
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> marcelc: it's called a graphic startup screen, gdm
[14:43] <damno_> horrible
i will but right now i'm thinking kde to give a try
[14:44] <marcelc> hmmm plymouth
and it sounds promising this time
[14:44] <damno_> for me kde in kubantu was too slow :(
[14:44] <BlouBlou> damno_: you're right
that's why i want to know the review
[14:45] <damno_> no ubuntu build :(  http://www.gnome3.org/tryit.html
[14:45] <elprado> ciao
[14:45] <elprado> qualche italiano?
r u using kde 4.6?
[14:45] <BlouBlou> !it | elprado
[14:45] <damno_> sudipta_,  no
[14:46] <damno_> BlouBlou,  can suse build be of gnome3 used in ubuntu?  m feeling neg. :(
i herad its faster than the prev. version
[14:46] <BlouBlou> damno_: No idea about suse
[14:47] <snowrichard> suse is rpm based distro
[14:47] <LarsTorben> okay can somebody say me how to join channels
[14:47] <BlouBlou> LarsTorben: /join <#channel>
[14:47] <nyuszika7h> Hi! I've got an SRS Premium Sound program for my ASUS K50AF series laptop, but it's only compatible with Windows. Is there any way to get something similiar on Ubuntu? (Yes, I've installed the sound drivers.)
[14:48] <LarsTorben> : /join <#linuxsnowlinux>
[14:48] <damno_> bloublou, look here:  http://www.gnome3.org/tryit.html
[14:48] <daicazzo> guys, i've tried everything i read on ubuntu forums and so, but jockey still say that driver for my nvidia 8600 is installed but not in use
[14:48] <arand> damno_: The way to install gnome3 in ubuntu is to run natty, and use a PPA.
[14:48] <LarsTorben> dont work
[14:48] <BlouBlou> at least it supports 32 bit
[14:48] <BlouBlou> damno_: seems fine
[14:48] <damno_> hmm :(
[14:49] <damno_> BlouBlou,  what?
[14:49] <arand> LarsTorben:       /join #channel
[14:49] <LarsTorben> :       /join #snowlinux
[14:49] <BlouBlou> damno_: But I don't have any idea about if it will work in suse or not, as I said, I have any idea about suse
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> LarsTorben: dant forget the slash
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> o
[14:49] <krux> damno_, those are live dvds of opensuse and fedora with gnome 3 built in so you can test it out
[14:49] <daicazzo> someone may help me trying to fix that?
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> daicazzo: what is 'that'?
[14:50] <daicazzo> what i wrote up
[14:50] <snowrichard> i tried the fedora 15 with gnome 3 and after it did 512 or so updates the network disappeared
[14:50] <daicazzo> trouble with nvidia 8600
[14:50] <damno_> krux, oh
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> daicazzo: run: sudo apt-get Install nvidia-current; sudo nvidia-xconfig        then reboot to test
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> daicazzo: put everything in one line, so we do not have to scroll back
[14:50] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, i've done that lot of time
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> daicazzo: does the nvidia-xconfig   not make it fly?
[14:51] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, but, when I do nvidia-xconfig all i have i the console
[14:51] <LarsTorben> dont work
[14:51] <damno_> krux,  but they read gnome3.iso; not suse
[14:51] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, no, jockey still say that drivers are installed but not in use
[14:51] <damno_> so I cant upgrade to gnome3 from 10.10?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> daicazzo: in the console, run:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log    it will show you what's shaking
[14:52] <krux> yeah that's just what they named those .iso files
[14:52] <daicazzo> i've do that and it say that can't load nvidia module
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> damno_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/
[14:52] <damno_> I think I'll try out natty
[14:52] <BlouBlou> damno_: you can, but you should wait to 11.04
[14:53] <damno_> vanilla build
[14:53] <snowrichard> 11.04 in beta whats the expected release date?
[14:53] <LarsTorben> hello i have a question
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: ask away
[14:53] <LarsTorben> 11.04 28. @snowrichard
[14:53] <LarsTorben> well
[14:53] <LarsTorben> I have got a emachines EL 1850
[14:53] <damno_> snowrichard, 11.04 is the date
[14:53] <LarsTorben> Ubuntu 10.10 shows me the PC name !! EL1850 in the installer ubiquity in the host pc name
[14:53] <damno_> i mean 04.11
[14:54] <damno_> bo
[14:54] <damno_> no
[14:54] <damno_> 11.04
[14:54] <FloodBot3> damno_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:54] <damno_> sorry
[14:54] <LarsTorben> Ubuntu 10.10 shows me the PC name !! EL1850 in the installer ubiquity in the host pc name
[14:54] <LarsTorben> Ubuntu 10.04 didnt do
[14:54] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, this is what log says about nvidia error http://pastebin.com/21RV1XBc
[14:54] <Polah> !repeat | LarsTorben
[14:54] <BlouBlou> LarsTorben: that's surelly because you set it
[14:54] <LarsTorben> i think Ubuntu 10.04 has not got quite the right drivers for my pc
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: it justsees the system name better than the older version
[14:55] <LarsTorben> ActionsParsnip
[14:55] <LarsTorben> yes and can it be so that the new version is better for the pc
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> daicazzo: you need the rest, to see what caused it to be unloaded
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: it seeing the system name is quite trivial
[14:55] <LarsTorben> and momentally i have a green Hard drive with 5400 upms/min
[14:55] <sherorox> Hey guys. I found a labtec usb webcam laying around and plugged it into my system (Ubuntu 10.10) Im having a little trouble getting it to work. Help?
[14:55] <damno_> ActionParsnip,  thanks for the link
[14:55] <LarsTorben> is a hard drive with the 7200 better ?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: it spins faster, check seek times for the drives is a better comparison
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: install and run cheese, do you see yourself/
[14:56] <LarsTorben> ActionParsnip, so i should buy a 7200 hard drive ?
[14:57] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, this is it http://pastebin.com/jxQBEWYi
[14:57] <damno_> did you gys like the global menu?? I didn't like it from the vdos I saw
[14:57] <LarsTorben> damno_ yes
[14:57] <Da|Mummy> 卐
[14:57] <Da|Mummy> that is all
[14:57] <LarsTorben> ActionParsnip, so i should buy a 7200 hard drive ?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> damno_: it's ok
[14:58] <sherorox> actionparnsip: source?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: usually they are faster but check the seek time to compare if it will help
[14:58] <LarsTorben> ok
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: use software centre.....
[14:58] <suprb> May I ask a Noob question?
[14:58] <LarsTorben> yes suprb:
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> suprb: ask away
[14:58] <sherorox> k nvm
[14:58] <suprb> How do you update to gnome3?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: its a package in the repos, you can install it with software centre. What is there to 'nvm' about...
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> suprb: what release are you using?
[14:59] <sherorox> the code. i just installed it
[14:59] <daicazzo> suprb, use gnome3 team ppa on a natty install
[14:59] <suprb> 2.3
[14:59] <sherorox> i mean from software centre
[14:59] <chris__> hello everyone, I have a problem with my ubuntu 10.04.  Yesterday morning everything was wonderful.      It loads up but I cannot do anything in it.  KDE works find though and Im using that now.
[14:59] <Daniel0108> suprb: do you use 10.04, 10.10 or 11.04?
[14:59] <Da|Mummy> 卐
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: easy stuff huh
[14:59] <suprb> 10.10
[14:59] <oCean> !ops | Da|Mummy
[14:59] <sherorox> srry man
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> suprb: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/
[14:59] <daicazzo> suprb, no way on 10.10
[14:59] <damno_> suprb , its not so safe yet
[14:59] <suprb> o
[15:00] <suprb> so i need to go to 11.04
[15:00] <White-Horse> After I installed the ATI Driver and messed around whit some scripts and editing of some config files my shutdown and startup screen is still really messed up any help please on this
[15:00] <Daniel0108> suprb: no, you don't have to, I know how to install on 10.10
[15:00] <BlouBlou> oCean: why did you do it?
[15:00] <Daniel0108> I'm currently running gnome3 on 10.10!
[15:00] <arand> suprb: In general, ubuntu does not focus on using gnome3
[15:00] <damno_> Diacazzo, look here : http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> suprb: its not in natty, it needs a ppa
[15:00] <suprb> is it worth it?
[15:00] <Daniel0108> suprb: it works on 10.10 :)
[15:00] <arand> suprb: It is possible with a bit of poking though
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> suprb: its not stable yet, if you want to try it you can
[15:00] <White-Horse> very nice to see you ActionParsnip :)
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> White-Horse: howdy
[15:01] <mrdeb> Daniel0108: is it good
[15:01] <Daniel0108> mrdeb: yes, I really like it and it's stable for me
[15:01] <mrdeb> cool
[15:01] <daicazzo> damno_, uh, ok sorry suprb, I know only gnome 3 ppa for natty
[15:01] <suprb> daniel0108: how do you do it?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: do you see yourself in cheese?
[15:01] <Daniel0108> suprb: I show you :)
[15:01] <damno__> my network !!
[15:01] <suprb> np
[15:01] <sherorox> actionparnsip: ya it works ty. ill try it in the browser now
[15:01] <chris__> how do I repair gnome?
[15:01] <Daniel0108> suprb: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gnome3-builds && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop3
[15:01] <damno__> Daniel, gnome3?
[15:01] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, have you take a look to my log? have you any idea?
[15:02] <mrdeb> cool
[15:02] <Daniel0108> damno__: yes, it got released yesterday
[15:02] <LarsTorben> can i have gnome 3 or Unity under Ubuntu 10.04
[15:02] <White-Horse> os[Linux 2.6.35-28-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "maverick" 10.10] cpu[3 x AMD Phenom(tm) II N850 Triple-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 5.6GB, 90.6% free] disk[Total: 1.3TB, 94.4% free] video[ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI]
[15:02] <Daniel0108> LarsTorben: yes, try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gnome3-builds
[15:02] <Daniel0108> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop3
[15:02] <LarsTorben> ok
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: http://techienotes.info/2010/09/05/install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-lucid/
[15:02] <LarsTorben> can i remove it later maybe if it isnt good ?
[15:02] <damno__> Daniel, ya..but is it stable>?
[15:03] <bob__678> I tried natty with that gnome but wiped the disk and reinstalled 10.10 - if I wanted a full desktop I would have stayed with windows
[15:03] <suprb> ok
[15:03] <damno__> yet?
[15:03] <Daniel0108> LarsTorben: yes, with ppa purge
[15:03] <ari__> Hi! does anyone know why establishing a VPN connection (pptp) is blocking all traffic in Ubuntu 10.10, Lenovo T400?
[15:03] <Daniel0108> damno__: for me, yes
[15:03] <Visuex> damno__, it is not officially stable
[15:03] <suprb> im gonna try it
[15:03] <suprb> ty daniel0108
[15:03] <LarsTorben> and how can i test unity
[15:03] <LarsTorben> under ubuntu 10.04
[15:03] <Visuex> it is for the most part stable but they have notices around it saying that it isnt 100% tested
[15:03] <popey> LarsTorben: in a VM
[15:03] <Daniel0108> LarsTorben: netbook edition uses unity
[15:04] <bob__678> suprb: natty worked for me but I hated it
[15:04] <damno__> I need to get back my wired net bfore gtting gnome3
[15:04] <damno__> currently on a 2.5g gprs conn :(
[15:04] <mrdeb> yes 11.04 is not stable
[15:04] <mrdeb> but gnome 3 is stable?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> daicazzo: you are using natty,which isn't supported here yet
[15:04] <LarsTorben> how can i test unity
[15:04] <LarsTorben> under 10.04
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: officially, no
[15:05] <mrdeb> live usb
[15:05] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, it's the same with maverick
[15:05] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, same things, same errors
[15:05] <Daniel0108> LarsTorben: virtual machine, live usb/dvd/cd, netbook edition
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> daicazzo: your release isn't supported here, ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:05] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, ah, ok
[15:05] <LarsTorben> no without formatting
[15:05] <maxud> Hi guys, i just installed LAMPP, how to create DATABASE in LAMPP? When I was on windows i just opened phpmyadmin, but on linux it is different :(
[15:05] <chris__> ok so, yesterday everything is wonderful.  I do some auto updates in ubuntu 10.04. I turn off the computer and later when I turn it back on... GNOME no longer works correctly! KDE is good.. How do I repair gnome?
[15:05] <LarsTorben> can i type : apt-get install unity ??
[15:05] <Oldgram> hello! I'm using windows and I downloaded ubuntu (file: ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso) and I want to create a USB installation. I extracted the file and ran usb-creator.exe but I'm unable to choose the "Source disk image" - I click the "other" button, choose ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso"ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso", click "open", but nothing adds to the list. What should I do? thanks! :=)
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> !info unity unity
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[15:06] <oCean> maxud: what is different? You also installed php-myadmin?
[15:06] <damno__> Daniel, did you get it through the ppa they released ?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: http://digitizor.com/2010/05/10/how-to-install-unity-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[15:06] <DavidJonas> anybody using openManage from Dell? Can it be used to manage LSI hardware RAID controllers?
[15:06] <LarsTorben> !info unity lucid
[15:06] <maxud> ohh.. so apt-get install php-myadmin, but it will install to LAMPP dir automatically?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: I simply websearched and found that guide
[15:06] <LarsTorben> !info lucidc unity
[15:07] <LarsTorben> !info lucidcunity
[15:07] <damno__> I'm thinking of trying !#
[15:07] <LarsTorben> !info unity lycid
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: use the link I gave
[15:07] <LarsTorben> !info unity lucid
[15:07] <damno__> anybdy use it here?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> damno__: thats offtopic here
[15:07] <damno__> anybdy use #! here?
[15:07] <damno__> ok
[15:07] <ysk> hi... i changed myusename password and i forget it i was drunk... how can i retrieve it i cant update my ubuntu lucid now
[15:07] <oCean> maxud: it defaults to /usr/share/phpmyadmin I think
[15:07] <sherorox> actionparsnip: camera doesnt work in anything other than cheese?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: but it does work in cheese?
[15:08] <sherorox> yes
[15:08] <ysk> hi... i changed myusename password and i forget it i was drunk... how can i retrieve it i cant update my ubuntu lucid now
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: cool, thats a good sign
[15:08] <LarsTorben> mh
[15:08] <ysk> can anyone help me plz
[15:08] <sherorox> webcam vs flash?
[15:08] <damno__> ysk :D
[15:08] <White-Horse> so does anyone here know how i can fix the low screen res that  happens after installing the ati driver ?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> ysk: boot to root recovery mode and run:  passwd foo      change foo for your username, then reboot by running: reboot
[15:09] <coz_> ysk,   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-recover-password-under-ubuntu.html
[15:09] <maxud> is there any difference where to install in lampp dir or anywhere else? :)
[15:09] <ysk> thanks mate
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: thats all I know dude, I don't use webcams. I think they are creepy
[15:09] <oCean> maxud: what?
[15:09] <Oldgram> my message went a bit up the chat ;-) do you have any idea why can't I create a usb installation?
[15:09] <sherorox> haha thats fine thnx anyways
[15:09] <mrdeb> ysk: you should only operate ubuntu when sober
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> White-Horse: you may need an xorg.conf file if udev isn't picking stuff up
[15:09] <damno__> ActionParsnip,  what does nomodset really do?
[15:09] <ysk> hehe
[15:10] <ysk> yeah i get a lesson now
[15:10] <bob__678> how do you boot in recovery mode in an all ubunto system - there are no prompts on boot?
[15:10] <ysk> :)
[15:10] <maxud> should i install it to opt/lampp or no matter?
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> bob__678: it's in the grub
[15:10] <coz_> bob__678,  when booting  hold the left shift key down to get to the grub menu
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> damno__: http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?30,92915,92923 may show
[15:10] <maxud> srr i dont know how use msg
[15:10] <oCean> maxud: just let it default to wherever it wants to install
[15:10] <maxud> ok
[15:11] <bob__678> thanks, you 2 and probably more
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> bob__678: it's Ubuntu too, not Ubunto
[15:11] <damno__> somebody asked a seminoob to join his team for building a linux distro :D
[15:11] <White-Horse> actionParsnip how do i do that and is there anything we do in the term. to see whats going on ?
[15:11] <maxud> thanks!
[15:11] <oCean> maxud: after installing phpmyadmin, the software will be in /usr/share/phpmyadmin, but in /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf should be an alias to that directory.
[15:11] <Brett3826> I am running ubuntu 10.10 on my server and trying to get torrentflux working. Torrents download fine, but whenever it switches to seeding, no one can connect. I have tried to disable all firewalls, but still not working. Other computers on the same network can seed, UPnP works, but I never see this server create any UPnP ports from the router frontend. Any ideas?
[15:11] <maxud> and how to do that O_o
[15:12] <oCean> maxud: if you install from repos, you have nothing to configure afterwards. It should just work
[15:12] <rodhash> Hello Guys.. what does /dev/dm-0, /dev/dm-1, etc mean when I issue "fdisk -l" on Ubuntu? I believe it doesn't matter the distribution.. anyway, any idea?
[15:12] <maxud> ok :D
[15:12] <oCean> maxud: have you installed LAMP currently?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> White-Horse: you can run:  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   you can find sample files online to try
[15:13] <maxud> i installed lamp not from repos
[15:13] <maxud> or srr i think i misunderstood :)
[15:13] <maxud> you mean just now?
[15:14] <oCean> maxud: you can use "tasksel" to install all required packages for a LAMP server
[15:14] <maxud> oh ok
[15:14] <maxud> so tasksel phpmyadmin?
[15:14] <oCean> maxud: 'sudo tasksel install lamp-server' will do
[15:14] <maxud> oh ok :)
[15:14] <maxud> thanks a lot!
[15:14] <chris__> ok so, yesterday everything is wonderful.  I do some auto updates in ubuntu 10.04. I turn off the computer and later when I turn it back on... GNOME no longer works correctly! KDE is good.. How do I repair gnome?
[15:14] <White-Horse> ActionParsnip thank you i will work on this and come back later cause now i have to undo everything i did from what i found on google
[15:15] <LarsTorben> sudo apt-get remove gnome sudo apt-get install gnome @ chris__
[15:15] <damno__> OpenOff  is  too buggy
[15:15] <LarsTorben> hi damno_
[15:15] <White-Horse> if i can even find the same pages again lol
[15:15] <BajK> lol what happens if you don't update your machine since november? 530 packages will be upgraded :D (it's my mom's old machine which I now use as media center in my living room)
[15:15] <chris__> larstorben ok thans Ill try that now
[15:16] <Oldgram> even if I run "usb-creator.exe --iso=ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso" the list of images is empty. what can I do? thanks!
[15:16] <rodhash> Hello Guys.. what does /dev/dm-0, /dev/dm-1, etc mean when I issue "fdisk -l" on Ubuntu? I believe it doesn't matter the distribution.. anyway, any idea?
[15:16] <chris__> larstorben anything I need to do other than that?
[15:16] <LarsTorben> no
[15:16] <LarsTorben> ;)
[15:16] <damno__> hey lars
[15:16] <phoenixsampras> BUG!! when i change the ip address on gnome network manager ... it doesnt change??  i do ifconfig eth0 and still the old address
[15:16] <erUSUL> rodhash: device mapper devices. the one creted for example when you do software raid or lvm volumes or whole encrypted disks
[15:17] <chris__> larstorben um this is weird it says gnome is not installed on my system? yet it is?
[15:17] <damno__> is libre office bttr anyway than open off?
[15:17] <LarsTorben> damno__ yes
[15:17] <LarsTorben> chris__ yes its really mystery
[15:18] <LarsTorben> try sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop sudo apt-get install desktop
[15:18] <rodhash> erUSUL: Thanks
[15:18] <damno__> LasTorben, what way?
[15:18] <damno__> chris, dont do that!
[15:18] <chris__> dammo im listening
[15:18] <LarsTorben> me 2
[15:19] <LarsTorben> why not
[15:19] <chris__> sudo apt-get gnome install was weird.
[15:19] <damno__> LarsTorben, u crazy?
[15:19] <LarsTorben> it isnt dangerous
[15:19] <damno__> chis, u want to do what?
[15:19] <mrdeb> ubuntu-desktop will remove all programs
[15:19] <marienz> chris__: "gnome" doesn't directly install anything, it just pulls in (depends on) a ton of other packages that together form a complete gnome desktop
[15:19] <chris__> dammo I ran an update in 10.04 recently now gnome doesnt work.
[15:20] <chris__> dammo gnome loads up but I cant do anything in it.
[15:20] <marienz> chris__: if you have most or all of the packages "gnome" depends on installed already you'll have a functional gnome desktop even if "gnome" isn't installed.
[15:20] <chris__> im trying to fix it,
[15:20] <chris__> marien ok how do I fix a broken gnome?
[15:20] <aeon-ltd> damno__: libreoffice and oo are basically the same at this time, in a few months-years you'll see some diffs , but at the mo libreoffice is just debranded oo