[01:45] <roryy> tim167: hrm.  not sure how to help there, sorry
[01:46] <GrimReeper> How can I make a partition on a 2nd harddriver from within Ubuntu 7.04?  Disk is beeind recognized though it is not know as a volume
[01:46] <tim167> roryy, it also doesnt work in fluxbox...
[01:46] <wols_> GrimReeper: run a fdisk program on it to create a partition, format partition, add it to fstab
[01:47] <BigToe7000> I just lost the game :(
[01:47] <Madsy> Why doesn't Feisty support WPA security out of the box? :\
[01:47] <rambo3> GrimReeper, gparted
[01:47] <GrimReeper> can I run fdisk from within the GUI of Ubuntu ?   though it was an Application only on the win98 boot disk
[01:47] <VenusianTreen> wols_: please can you elaborate? Is that a web page, a command line tool?
[01:47] <wols_> !pastebin
[01:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:48] <rambo3> GrimReeper, gparted  is GUI for fdisk
[01:48] <Madsy> GrimReeper: What partition type do you want to make?
[01:48] <GrimReeper> K, trying to install/run it now
[01:48] <rambo3> GrimReeper, you have also cfdisk
[01:48] <VenusianTreen> wols_: Just answered my own question - seems to be a webpage: pastebin.com
[01:48] <GrimReeper> Just for storage. I got a 80GB and a 160GB maxtor harddisk, the 160GB is useless at the moment
[01:48] <GrimReeper> so it should be a EXT3 if I am correct?
[01:48] <wols_> VenusianTreen: that woN#t work well. will take ages to load
[01:48] <wols_> do not use it
[01:48] <wols_> GrimReeper: yes
[01:49] <kurisu> i have an intel WM3B2200BG wifi card that is not recognised, lspci & lshw do not show it... dmesg says that i have 2 buses hidden behind others
[01:49] <Kalisto> reiser the "killer" fs :D
[01:49] <kurisu> anyone got any ideas how i would fix this?
[01:49] <mha_666> Hi everyone..
[01:50] <wols_> kurisu: paste the full lspci output please?
[01:51] <mha_666> I'm new to linux and I got a small problem... after the installation everthing was fine but after the second restart the ubuntu is stuck at a resolution 640x480
[01:51] <wols_> it's kinda unlikely a intel wifi card enabled PC (notebook) has more than one PCI bus...
[01:51] <mha_666> how can I change it back to 1280x1024
[01:51] <wols_> !resolution
[01:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:51] <VenusianTreen> wols_: I can't even paste my output, I get a database error when I try and do so. Any other suggestions as to how I should dump my output?
[01:51] <timmyw29> funny, i have the same question with that 1280x1024
[01:51] <wols_> VenusianTreen: get a DB error on what site?
[01:52] <wols_> timmyw29: when X is not running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:52] <VenusianTreen> wols_: on pastebin.com
[01:52] <kmag> Will upgrade-manager force me to reboot after dist-upgrading from Dapper to Edgy?  The last time I upgraded to Edgy, my system would crash about 50% of the time before giving me a login.  I'd rather go right into an upgrade from Edgy to Feisty without attempting a restart in Edgy.
[01:52] <kurisu> wols_, can i print lspci to a file?
[01:52] <Geeerd> I installed new drivers for gforce 6150 from nvidia and now beryl dont respond
[01:52] <wols_> kurisu: lspci > file
[01:53] <phazeman> are there any issues with geforce 7600 and ubuntu ?
[01:53] <timmyw29> xubuntu logged me off last time i tried that dpkg command
[01:53] <timmyw29> a friend tipped me onto it
[01:53] <timmyw29> i'll have another crack right now though
[01:53] <timmyw29> just to doublecheck
[01:53] <wols_> timmyw29: then you didn't do it right. did you do it in a console? without X running at all?
[01:53] <GrimReeper> how can I stard Gparted as Root in Feisty /
[01:53] <wols_> GrimReeper: sudo
[01:54] <mrigns__> use gksudo instead
[01:54] <GrimReeper> so   sudo  /bla bla bla /gparted ?
[01:54] <GrimReeper> gksudo  /sdfsdfsd/gparted ?
[01:54] <excellent> GrimReeper, System -> Administration -> Gnome partition editor
[01:55] <GrimReeper> K, didn't find it there the 1e time I looked "woopsy"
[01:55] <GrimReeper> ;-)
[01:55] <kmag> Are any of you running Feisty on AMD64?
[01:56] <Kalisto> AMD128 pwned!
[01:56] <tim167> how do i upload a folder with its content with ftp ?
[01:56] <GrimReeper> Do I make it as primairy because it is the 1e and only one on that harddisk, or not because there is a primairy already on the 1e harddisk?
[01:56] <mha_666> the screen resolution dialog is showing only 640x480 how can I get the 1280x1024 back...can someone help me
[01:56] <wols_> tim167: a client which has recursive upload/download
[01:56] <GrimReeper> I keep forgetting if there is 1 primair for each harddisk or for each system :+
[01:56] <ipx> GrimReeper: only "sudo gparted" should work
[01:56] <wols_> GrimReeper: neither.
[01:56] <tim167> (the put command can only send one file at a time, it has no -r option afaict)
[01:56] <nblracer> How can i have it so i can remotly connect to the computer, even when no one is loged on?
[01:56] <tim167> wols: can you recommend one ?
[01:57] <wols_> there is room for a max of 4 primary partitions
[01:57] <mrigns__> ipx you shouldn't use sudo with gui based apps.
[01:57] <wols_> or you make up to 3 primaries and an extended
[01:57] <GrimReeper> @wols_ : how do U mean?  I can either choose Primairy or Extended?
[01:57] <mrigns__> gksudo oder kdesu
[01:57] <ipx> mrigns__: how come? it works perfectly fine?
[01:57] <Kalisto> nblracer, apt-get install ssh; /etc/iniit.d/ssh start
[01:57] <wols_> tim167: I only use console based ones and I doubt you like them
[01:57] <mrigns__> ipx it coudl break you system
[01:57] <GrimReeper> K, so primairy should be sollected?
[01:57] <ipx> T_T
[01:57] <LjL> !fixres > mha_666    (mha_666, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:58] <wols_> nblracer: X or console?
[01:58] <nblracer> X
[01:58] <nblracer> im using vnc right now
[01:58] <wols_> nblracer: same session or different one?
[01:58] <phazeman> !fixres > phazeman
[01:58] <nblracer> but i first have to login on to ubuntu then connect with vnc
[01:58] <tim167> wols_ yes, i use 'ftp' now, text interface, i do like it :), its just i cant get it to send more than one file at a time..
[01:58] <wols_> tim167: lftp or ncftp
[01:58] <kurisu> wols_, sent my lspci output to you
[01:58] <VenusianTreen> wols: ubotu: Sorry, guys, I missed your link to the ubuntu pastebin. I've now managed to paste my output.
[01:59] <xororand> what's the standard way of getting a newer kernel version (than 2.6.15-28) on ubuntu without building my own? is there a newer prebuilt one?
[01:59] <wols_> kurisu: how?
[01:59] <Kalisto> wow i just updates from dapper to feisty one distro at a time. nearly done. wish me a good restart and hope nothing is too broken :D
[01:59] <wols_> kurisu: there are pastebins you know
[01:59] <tim167> wols_ ah ncftp is already installed, i'll look at that then thanks
[01:59] <wols_> xororand: install as you install all other programs
[02:00] <VenusianTreen> Kalisto: Here's the result of my attempt to connect to wireless via command line: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22677/. Can you see if I'm missing something?
[02:00] <wols_> xororand: add/remove programs. that is if you run feisty or any other current ubuntu version
[02:00] <xororand> wols_: i can't find a newer version than 2.6.15-28
[02:00] <Taxman> xororand: if there's a newer package available use that, otherwise it's build you own
[02:00] <wols_> xororand: what ubuntu version do you run?
[02:00] <xororand> wols_: it's the installation of a friend, and the version is DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS"
[02:01] <xororand> 6.06 dapper
[02:01] <rambo3> VenusianTreen, sudo dhclient wlan0
[02:01] <wols_> VenusianTreen: dhclient wlan0
[02:01] <wols_> VenusianTreen: bfore ifconfig
[02:01] <stefg> !backports | xororand
[02:01] <ubotu> xororand: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[02:01] <xororand> thanks
[02:02] <stefg> xororand: but i can tell you already that you'll probably have to bake your own kernel if you want anything different from 2.6.15
[02:02] <stefg> in dapper
[02:02] <Taxman> what's the chance of splitting up this channel so there's not 1200 people in one room with all the flood?
[02:02] <wols_> tim167: none
[02:03] <wols_> Taxman: ^^^
[02:03] <LjL> Taxman: zero, and also, it would work much better if we kept on topic
[02:03] <xororand> stefg: i'll try to upgrade to edgy then
[02:03] <kurisu> wols_, link of pastebins?
[02:03] <stefg> xororand: any particular reason you need a newer kernel? and why edgy? Feisty is current.
[02:04] <Kalisto> VenusianTreen, yes try dhcpd or dhclient
[02:04] <GrimReeper> I have succesfully made a 160GB Ext3 partiation. Now the only question remains, how can I add it to /home or make a other dir for it (which can be used and accesed for storage by all users)?
[02:04] <xororand> stefg: better wlan driver support in newer kernels
[02:04] <xororand> stefg: can i upgrade directly from dapper to feisty?
[02:04] <melange> How do you change you default shell?
[02:05] <Kalisto> xororand, i did it step by step
[02:05] <Taxman> GrimReeper: create a mountpoint /usr/home/storage and mount it there
[02:05] <xororand> Kalisto: edgy than feisty?
[02:05] <xororand> s/than/then/
[02:05] <kurisu> wols_, http://paste.uni.cc/15824
[02:05] <Kalisto> xororand, yes just to check what would be broken after edgy
[02:06] <wols_> kurisu:you did not send anything to me. and the proper way to do what you want to do is pasting it in a pastebin and paste the link to that
[02:06] <stefg> xororand: no, that's not supported.... edgy is an upgrade problem-child. So i'd consider a fresh Fesity install on a different partition and copy over what's needed. see !clone
[02:06] <Kalisto> brb restart.. wish me luck!! feisty here i come
[02:06] <sirzwoep> i want beryl to start up when i log in in ubuntu. what's the command in sessions?
[02:06] <aboyousif> any emacs users here ?
[02:06] <Taxman> GrimReeper: that's the easiest way to add it in, though you can move all of usr/home over too
[02:06] <kurisu> wols_, http://paste.uni.cc/15824, sorry still early here
[02:06] <stefg> !clone xororand
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clone xororand - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <xororand> stefg: okay thank, though i can't expect this from my friend
[02:06] <stefg> !clone | xororand
[02:06] <ubotu> xororand: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[02:07] <rendi> hello can help me
[02:07] <wols_> kurisu: I don't see a wifi card nor any outout about additional PCI busses
[02:07] <rendi> how to install digital clock and show on desktop ?
[02:07] <Taxman> rendi: just ask what you need
[02:07] <rendi> what file i must install ?
[02:07] <ferronica> (cairo-dock:9399): librsvg-CRITICAL **: rsvg_handle_get_dimensions: assertion `handle' failed
[02:08] <rendi> anyone can help me
[02:08] <Taxman> rendi: you mean other than what's in the upper right corner of your screen?
[02:08] <GrimReeper> @taxman: where can I mount and or dismount those things?  Did not find that option in Gparted so I susspect I need a diverent App for it.
[02:09] <stefg> xororand: http://dev.osso.nl/herman/blog/2007/04/01/will-there-be-a-new-update-to-ubuntu-606-lts-with-a-new-kernel/
[02:09] <kurisu> wols_, thats the problem, dmesg says that i have 2 hidden PCI busses
[02:09] <rendi> yes Taxman
[02:09] <rendi> can help me Taxman ?
[02:09] <Taxman> GrimReeper: you don't need anything added in gparted, you just add a line to /etc/fstab that sets the new partition to mount automatically
[02:09] <wols_> kurisu: where and how does it say that? paste the line please?
[02:09] <GrimReeper> K i'll try ;-)
[02:09] <rendi> Taxman what file i must injstall >
[02:09] <wols_> kurisu: have you disabled wlan in BIOS for example?
[02:10] <Geeerd> I installed the new Nvidia drivers and now wine seems not to work, what can be done to fix this?
[02:10] <xororand> stefg: thanks, i'm reading it
[02:10] <Kalisto> sweet Feisty works :) have to redo ati prop. drivers and thats about it!!!
[02:10] <rendi> anyone there ?
[02:10] <kurisu> wols_, no is enabled in bios
[02:11] <timmyw29> i just ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but still don't have the option for resolutions larger than 1024x768
[02:11] <timmyw29> so not sure what's up with that
[02:11] <Geeerd> I am getting X error of failed request , when i run wine cfg
[02:11] <rambo3> you finaly found your way out of the well
[02:11] <askand> Help! I cant write swedish letters anymore :o
[02:11] <dave-ubu> feisty has always worked, its was some of the older bugs that made it less user friendly :P
[02:11] <rambo3> ?
[02:12] <lizili> how can i set my screen from 24bit to 16 bit please?
[02:12] <rambo3> askand, change keyboard layout
[02:12] <rendi> hello
[02:12] <rendi> how to show digital time on left
[02:12] <Geeerd> I installed new Nvidia drivers and Wine is not working
[02:12] <GrimReeper> @taxman: File looks scarry ;-)   There is a comment line HDE1 which mentions the first harddisk, then a commecnt say HDE5 which names all "external" devices.  My guess now is that I have to put the line staigh under teh HDE1 mount. Strangly though, in the file like it does not mention the /home dir for hde1
[02:12] <rendi> what file i must get
[02:12] <askand> rambo3: how_
[02:13] <Geeerd> I am getting X error of failed request , when i run wine cfg
[02:13] <rambo3> askand, if its in  gnome only system -> Preferences -> keyboard
[02:14] <rambo3> !locales | askand, (if in whole system then )
[02:14] <ubotu> askand, (if in whole system then ): To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[02:14] <jburd> xfce4 rules. :
[02:14] <jburd> :)
[02:14] <askand>  rambo3: do I have to restart gnome_
[02:14] <lizili> hello i have a problem,how can i change the screen from 24bit to 16bit in ubuntu7.04 ?
[02:14] <rambo3> askand, i dont think so
[02:14] <kurisu> wols_, http://paste.uni.cc/15825
[02:15] <askand>  rambo3: hrm it doesnt work...>*
[02:15] <askand> :(
[02:15] <timmyw29> i'm with you Grim.
[02:15] <lizili> :(who can help me ?
[02:15] <aMMuNix> how can I see the real current refresh rate? all I see in the screen resolution window is 50Hz
[02:15] <timmyw29> Xubuntu is my first linux experience... just started with it today.
[02:15] <VenusianTreen> Kalisto: rambo3: wols_: dhclient! That was the command I was trying to remember. Unfortunately, it doesn't help. It seems there are two problems - 'unknown hardware address type 801', and 'No DHCPOFFERS received'. My latest attempts can be found on: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22678/
[02:16] <AnAnt> anyone logs on a windows domain (active directory) from linux here ?
[02:16] <ikonia> AnAnt: I have done in the past
[02:16] <AnAnt> Hello, when I am  logged to a windows domain (ActiveDirectory) from Ubuntu, I cannot access their USB drives, how can I solve that ?
[02:16] <ferronica> (cairo-dock:9399): librsvg-CRITICAL **: rsvg_handle_get_dimensions: assertion `handle' failed
[02:16] <Hobbsee> timmyw29: you may want to look into #xubuntu irc channel, for xubuntu-specific help, if you dont get it here
[02:16] <rambo3> askand, under layout ? Generic 105-key (Intl) PC nad Sswedish should be chosen
[02:16] <AnAnt> also when I su to a local user I get this error: libnotify-Message: Unable to get session bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[02:16] <timmyw29> oh, i wasn't aware of one! thanks hobbsee
[02:16] <stefg> xororand: wouldn't it be an option to save the /home-dir (maybe portions of /etc) and the package list on thumb-drive and just reinstall feisty? is this a heavily customized dapper, or something that was just installed and used?
[02:16] <GrimReeper> Looking into the Fstab file now. File looks scarry ;-)   There is a comment line HDE1 which mentions the first harddisk, then a commecnt say HDE5 which names all "external" devices.  My guess now is that I have to put the line staigh under teh HDE1 mount. Strangly though, in the file like it does not mention the /home dir for hde1
[02:17] <AnAnt> ikonia: you know solution to any of those problems ?
[02:17] <ikonia> AnAnt: sounds like your pam rules are borked. You have to setup some pretty specific pam rules for that to work
[02:17] <AnAnt> ikonia: how ?
[02:17] <uber_newb> hey all, i'm having issues with burning dL dvd's w/ k3b i have dvdrw-+tools
[02:17] <Hobbsee> timmyw29: no problem
[02:17] <aMMuNix> how can I see the real current refresh rate? all I see in the screen resolution window is 50Hz and can choose to set 57 or 58
[02:17] <ikonia> AnAnt: you'll have to research pam if this is the problem as there are a LOT of rules that need changing
[02:18] <aMMuNix> (my screen supports 75Hz
[02:18] <AnAnt> ikonia: a LOT ?
[02:18] <aMMuNix> )
[02:18] <AnAnt> ikonia: for disk access ?!
[02:18] <ikonia> AnAnt: yes, a lot
[02:18] <rambo3> VenusianTreen, you need to add route for dhclient
[02:18] <stefg> uber_newb: please be specific about ubunt-version and error-messages you got
[02:18] <ikonia> AnAnt: its not disk access - its generic authentication rules that need to be changed,
[02:18] <rambo3> VenusianTreen, also iwconfig needs channel
[02:19] <ikonia> AnAnt: you may also want to look at the windows policy rules as depending on your setup (I've not done this part) you can get it to use the windows policy
[02:19] <kurisu> _wols, i am using a cf-18 toughbook, i have read that ubuntu should pick up all of the hardware
[02:19] <James_> What do I need to install for Totem to play VCDs?
[02:19] <timmyw29> lol the xubuntu channel is a ghost town compared to here
[02:19] <uber_newb> i have ubuntu feisty, using k3b 3.5.6 and the error i get is
[02:19] <AnAnt> ikonia: sounds like some real headache
[02:19] <uber_newb> dd if=/dev/zero of=/0bits bs=20971520   # bs=20m
[02:19] <uber_newb> rm /0bits
[02:19] <uber_newb> whoops
[02:19] <ikonia> AnAnt: it can be
[02:19] <ikonia> AnAnt: it takes a while to get it all setup - but then its easy to mass deploy to machines
[02:19] <uber_newb> It is not possible to add files bigger than 4.00 gb
[02:20] <xororand> stefg: it's not my installation but i think he changed some stuff
[02:20] <timmyw29> is anyone available to help me install my ati drivers and/or get some better resolution options with xubuntu?
[02:20] <ikonia> uber_newb: yes its fine to add big files
[02:20] <uber_newb> i'm attempting to burn a backup created from g4l
[02:20] <stefg> xororand: anyway... Firefox 2.0 should be a motivation to update
[02:20] <ikonia> !ati >timmyw29
[02:20] <uber_newb> the error in k3b is such
[02:20] <uber_newb> i'ts bz compression
[02:21] <jburd> ubuntu.users.size() - xubuntu.users.size() = 1100
[02:21] <jburd> :P
[02:21] <uber_newb> i'm about to try using dd to create an iso that is gz and try to burn that
[02:21] <timmyw29> cheers ikonia
[02:21] <uber_newb> but i know the size will be greater than 7gb
[02:21] <ikonia> uber_newb: you don't use dd to create an iso
[02:21] <uber_newb> ~7.5
[02:21] <stefg> uber_newb: hmmmm , a k3b temp-folder on a fat32-filesystem ?
[02:21] <nnacht> Hey, anyone has experience with an external monitor for desktop extension under unbuntu?
[02:21] <jburd> However, I'm starting to prefer xfce4 more over gnome simply because it's fast and lightweight.
[02:21] <ikonia> uber_newb: you also can't burn .gz isos
[02:21] <jburd> Runs pretty smoothly.
[02:21] <jburd> Applications launch much faster.
[02:22] <ikonia> jburd: thats just personal opinion
[02:22] <Kalisto> VenusianTreen, are you sure you have the correct driver installed?
[02:22] <stefg> uber_newb: or too little temp-space for k3b
[02:22] <uber_newb> ok let me get this straight
[02:22] <jburd> ikonia, well, the personal opinion is my choice, but the statement about it being comparatively lightweight and faster is fact.
[02:22] <uber_newb> dd can't make *.iso
[02:22] <ikonia> jburd: nope
[02:22] <jburd> Why?
[02:23] <uber_newb> and k3b won't burn *.iso.gz
[02:23] <ikonia> uber_newb: no, dd is a block level file replication
[02:23] <ikonia> uber_newb: ooh it will burn it, just not as an iso image
[02:23] <uber_newb> dd if=/dev/hdc of=/home/sam/mycd.iso bs=2048 conv=notrunc
[02:23] <stefg> uber_newb: afaik k3b needs to prepare an image first, and needs as much temp-space as the media will hold
[02:23] <uber_newb> i've been doing this for quite a while
[02:23] <NuclearMailman> If ubuntu is installed on a separate hdd than windows, and grub is on ubuntu's hdd, could i format the ubuntu hdd and still have windows start normally and whatnot?
[02:24] <uber_newb> i've got the temp space
[02:24] <uber_newb> i'm not using windows
[02:24] <ikonia> uber_newb: thats not an iso image, thats just ".iso" extension
[02:25] <stefg> NuclearMailman: no... grub will sit in the first hdd's MBR, no matter where ubuntu is installed
[02:25] <uber_newb> i'm confused.  i can mount -o that file...
[02:25] <CokeNCode> when it says 'you have new mail' when i login as root. How can I read that mail ?
[02:25] <krustig> What the name of the graphic interfac of the FTP basic software on ubuntu pleased ?
[02:25] <ikonia> uber_newb: you can mount that file ?
[02:25] <NuclearMailman> How would I go about removing ubuntu and grub to restore it to normal booting then?
[02:25] <kurisu> is anyone here using ubuntu on a Toughbook?
[02:25] <hermann> y
[02:25] <ikonia> NuclearMailman: just boot from a windows cd and use fixmbr
[02:25] <uber_newb> mount -o loop
[02:26] <uber_newb> yep
[02:26] <ikonia> uber_newb: I'm VERY surprised by that
[02:26] <stefg> NuclearMailman: you have to get to a win-konsole and run win's fixmbr command from there
[02:26] <ikonia> uber_newb: maybe dd has evolved but I don't see how that will work
[02:26] <NuclearMailman> I don't have a windows cd
[02:26] <ikonia> NuclearMailman: get one
[02:26] <James_> How do I play VCDs?
[02:26] <nevalja> help pls
[02:26] <nevalja> hi to all
[02:26] <uber_newb> yes, for example so i won't have to use a cd rom to play a game i make an image of it and mount it via loop
[02:26] <mahmoud__> wols_, feisty uses upstart instead of sysVinit (/etc/event.d)
[02:26] <nevalja> Checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6... no
[02:26] <nevalja>         gtk+ >= 2.6 not found.
[02:26] <nevalja>         Note: You might have the lib but not the headers
[02:26] <nevalja>
[02:26] <NuclearMailman> Some sort of windows boot cd, or a windows install cd?
[02:27] <akyra> j #italia
[02:27] <stefg> NuclearMailman: a win98 floppy will do, too. use fdsik /mbr then
[02:27] <ikonia> nevalja: if you don't understand that you shouldn't be trying to use ./configure
[02:27] <NuclearMailman> no floppy drive
[02:27] <ikonia> uber_newb: but thats just a block level copy so I don't see how it can make an iso image
[02:27] <nevalja> ikonia ./configure what
[02:27] <uber_newb> i'm so confused... maybe it's a matter of semantics but the language is confusing
[02:28] <ikonia> nevalja: your running ./configure
[02:28] <uber_newb> the first command i learned w/linux was dd
[02:28] <stefg> NuclearMailman: freedos on CD
[02:28] <rambo3> nevalja,  i am guessing you need gtk+- dev package
[02:28] <uber_newb> second was cdrecord
[02:28] <r00tintheb0x> word
[02:28] <nevalja> yes
[02:28] <r00tintheb0x> uber_newb, thats a good 1st command to learn :)
[02:29] <ikonia> nevalja: so a.) you shouldn't be doing that unless you have a real need to b.) you shouldn't be doing it if you don't know what it does c.) are you aware it will break your ubuntu package manager dependency tree
[02:29] <uber_newb> i've been dd cd's to iso to burn them to cd's w/ cd record for years
[02:29] <VenusianTreen> Kalisto: I'm using the rt73usb module that was provided with Ubuntu 7.04. If it isn't the correct driver, how am I able to see all the wireless networks in my neighbourhood? Or are you suggesting that perhaps the driver is only good for seeing APs, but not connecting to them?
[02:29] <nevalja> oooooo
[02:29] <rambo3> nevalja to nevalja
[02:29] <r00tintheb0x> yeah
[02:29] <uber_newb> so when cdrecord grabs an iso made by dd it's just a trick to make cdrecord think it's an iso
[02:30] <r00tintheb0x> yep uber_newb
[02:30] <r00tintheb0x> :D
[02:31] <uber_newb> my god, my commands are tricking each other will the social engineering ever stop!!!
[02:32] <VenusianTreen> rambo3: I used iwconfig to set the channel, didn't help. Please can you elaborate on how I should a. discover the route to the DHCP server, given that I have an existing ethernet connection, and b. set the route in dhclient.
[02:32] <NuclearMailman> could i use a ubuntu livecd(which i already have) to fix the master boot record on the main hdd?
[02:32] <uber_newb> ok, my modus operandi, is to use the following... but make an iso.
[02:32] <ipx> Anyone knows the solution to why cedega gives 3d-acceleration: failed with ATI-cards?
[02:33] <uber_newb> dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 conv=sync,noerror | gzip -c | ssh -c blowfish<EMAIL_ADDRESS>"dd of=ubuntu_backupFiesty5262007.gz bs=512"
[02:33] <uber_newb> no if i renamed it ubuntu_backupFiesty5262007.img or .iso would it really matter?
[02:34] <stefg> uber_newb: all in all it sounds like you are dealing with file-system issues, not hardware issues. I#m not sure iso9660 supports files over 4GB size (anyone can tell?). you gotta use UDF then
[02:34] <mjr> iso9660 doesn't
[02:34] <uber_newb> udf
[02:34] <rambo3> VenusianTreen, it should be specified in your router something like 192.168.0.X or 10.0.0.X  .example :  sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:34] <uber_newb> aaaaaaaaah
[02:34] <uber_newb> one for ubuntu overlords
[02:35] <uber_newb> what's the name of the "official" bot on this channel
[02:35] <soundless> Hi could someone forward me to a channel where people MIGHT help me learning to program
[02:35] <stefg> !ubotu | uber_newb
[02:35] <ubotu> uber_newb: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:35] <predaeus> soundless, what language?
[02:36] <NuclearMailman> it seems i should have backed up my mbr, but i don't recall doing that, is there a way to fix my mbr now?
[02:36] <r00tintheb0x> soundless, what kind of programming do you want to do.
[02:36] <r00tintheb0x> Per, Python, C?
[02:36] <r00tintheb0x> Perl*
[02:36] <Frogzoo> NuclearMailman: is the machine still up?
[02:36] <soundless> I don't know I'm a total noob I know the basics and I did some 'scripting in Second Life' but I just want to start to learn some programming doesn't matter which language
[02:36] <uber_newb> NuclearMailman.. have you lost bootability
[02:36] <rambo3> Visual Basic!
[02:36] <rambo3> .net
[02:36] <soundless> visual basic on linux?
[02:36] <NuclearMailman> It still boots, but ubuntu and grub are still installed
[02:37] <r00tintheb0x> soundless, i'd sugguest Perl or Java. I use a lot of perl for network adminstration tasks.
[02:37] <uber_newb> assembly, all superlinux gurus program in assembly
[02:37] <NuclearMailman> i'd like to uninstall ubuntu, as it's kind of useless to me. it was okay to poke around in, but i could use the space it takes up for other stuff
[02:37] <soundless> which one is easier to learn?
[02:37] <VenusianTreen> rambo3: would this be the address listed in the 'Gateway' column for the 'default' row in the output of the 'route' command?
[02:37] <uber_newb> i can barely spell so that rule me out
[02:37] <NuclearMailman> frogzoo: yeah, i'm still using it right now
[02:37] <Frogzoo> NuclearMailman: sudo update-grub
[02:38] <stefg> NuclearMailman: so what? boot to win, get a concole there, fixmbr , grub is nuked... then you can safely remove the ubuntu-partition
[02:38] <thug> why when i click to extract the files from a rar or tar doesnt do anything ?
[02:38] <r00tintheb0x> soundless, perl is fairly straight forward.
[02:38] <r0bb4n_> i have installed tcl / tk 8.5 from source, but when i try to install amsn from source it cannot find the tcl language, suggestions please ?
[02:38] <r0bb4n_> "configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl"
[02:38] <r00tintheb0x> thug, you probably dont have rar supoport installed.
[02:38] <soundless> I do :P
[02:38] <uber_newb> using dd to back up the MBR use the following
[02:38] <uber_newb> dd if=/dev/hda of=backup-of-hda-mbr count=1 bs=512
[02:38] <NuclearMailman> I'm running windows now, but do you mean boot with some sort of windows install cd?
[02:38] <kurisu> does anyone know  how to resolve this please: PCI: Bus #06 (-#09) is hidden behind transparent bridge #01 (-#01)
[02:39] <uber_newb> dd rocks
[02:39] <Frogzoo> NuclearMailman: oh if you're in windows, you'll need to boot a cd
[02:39] <r00tintheb0x> yeah it does uber, you can do a lot of stuff with it.
[02:39] <Frogzoo> !grub | NuclearMailman
[02:39] <ubotu> NuclearMailman: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:39] <soundless> omg lol -.-
[02:39] <r0bb4n_> did not get eny error on ./configure, make & make install, need som expert to look at it ;)
[02:39] <thug> r00tintheb0x course i have ... it does extract the file but only when i select the files ... it doesnt if i select the whole directory from that archive ...
[02:39] <r0bb4n_> any*
[02:39] <ikonia> r0bb4n_: whats the problem ?
[02:39] <soundless> anyway ty r00t I'll try PERL then ty ^_^
[02:39] <r00tintheb0x> thug, it being file roller? Or are you using a command line?
[02:39] <VenusianTreen> soundless: You're on the verge of starting a religious war here, asking what language. I'm going to add fuel to the fire with my recommendation: Learn Python. Certainly far easy to learn than Perl, and it's certainly much easier to read and understand your programs if you come back and look at them a day later.
[02:40] <thug> r00tintheb0x ark
[02:40] <NuclearMailman> Is ther some sort of Windows repair CD, or just a general windows install cd?
[02:40] <r0bb4n_> ikonia: cannot build amsn, it conplain about not finding tcl / tk
[02:40] <r00tintheb0x> thug, is the file type you're trying to extract accociated with Ark?
[02:40] <ikonia> NuclearMailman: you've been given tons of options
[02:40] <uber_newb> chao, i'll be back via privproxy and tor... grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
[02:40] <rambo3> Perl sucks btw
[02:40] <r0bb4n_> i did build tcl / tk from cvs right
[02:40] <ikonia> r0bb4n_: why are you not using the one out of the ubuntu repo's
[02:40] <Frogzoo> rambo3: lies - perl rox
[02:40] <r0bb4n_> the fonts look awful
[02:40] <soundless> well venesian a lot of people recommend python... you could be right...
[02:41] <ikonia> r0bb4n_: well you've totally messed up your ubuntu dependency and package manager tree
[02:41] <ProN00b> can anyone tell me how to completely encrypt the / partition ?
[02:41] <r00tintheb0x> thug, you can also start ark from the command line and get a lot more information on what is going on and why it isnt opening your files. That's what I'd sugguest you do.
[02:41] <davidjxyz> q
[02:41] <soundless> but I can't join that channel for some reason :P
[02:41] <ikonia> ProN00b: you can't really as it will be unusable
[02:41] <Kalisto> thats what i like to see baby: OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. ;D
[02:41] <nevalja> rambo3 pomoc
[02:41] <ProN00b> ikonia, why ?
[02:41] <ikonia> ProN00b: as it won't be readable
[02:41] <ikonia> ProN00b: so won't boot
[02:42] <r00tintheb0x> brb, going to install on a different hard drive
[02:42] <Frogzoo> well you could have a separate /boot & encrypt /
[02:42] <rambo3> Perl GUI programs rox  .
[02:42] <Slart> My firefox has started crashing every now and then with an error message "Floating point exception (core dumped)".. anyone experiencing this?
[02:42] <r0bb4n_> ikonia: hm, i will google, find a way around this
[02:42] <ikonia> r0bb4n_: there are plenty of ways
[02:42] <VenusianTreen> soundless: and Python is more lightweight than Java. Quick, before anyone fills your head with confusing and conflicting advice :). Go look at the tutorial on http://docs.python.org/tut/
[02:42] <rambo3> nevalja, whats the problem?
[02:42] <ikonia> r0bb4n_: but you've pretty much messed up your ubuntu install
[02:42] <r0bb4n_> ;)
[02:42] <ProN00b> theres a way to do it without leaving /boot unencrypted, i think luks can do that
[02:43] <ikonia> Frogzoo: where would he keep the encyption tools binaries
[02:43] <nevalja> i wont instal linuxdcpp
[02:43] <Frogzoo> ikonia: you'd have to build that into initd
[02:43] <saymeanickname> i need a nickname
[02:43] <ikonia> Frogzoo: exactly so if he does something like a kernel update he'll be screwed
[02:43] <ikonia> as I said its not worth the effort
[02:43] <r0bb4n_> ikonia: ;) just installed ubuntu so it's not a big thing but thx for your comment
[02:43] <soundless> VenusianTreen, I did look at it I did follow it but it doesn't really help... I mean I need to learn some build in functions cause I've found out that it's a lot easier to learn while trying.. just reading doesn't help... that's why I need support
[02:44] <ikonia> r0bb4n_: why are you not using amsn from the repos
[02:44] <Frogzoo> ikonia: no, just need to recreate the initrd image - but that's usual
[02:44] <ikonia> Frogzoo: yes, with the encyption tools
[02:44] <r0bb4n_> ikonia: because the fonts look awful, not antialiasing
[02:44] <rambo3> nevalja, ok it s pretty simple if you  check out configure output.  use "apt-cache search" for missing   dev packages
[02:44] <VenusianTreen> soundless: You mean you are trying to learn how to implement your own functions, or trying to learn what built-in functions Python offers?
[02:44] <r0bb4n_> ikonia: looks like linux did 1997
[02:45] <thug> r00tintheb0x it does open the files if i double click it ... its just doesnt extract the whole directory from the archive with all the files inside .. i have to select the files myself and extract ...
[02:45] <ikonia> !offtopic > venusiantreen
[02:45] <nevalja> ok thx
[02:45] <Qball> is enderson maia in here?
[02:45] <soundless> VenusianTreen, the built-in functions.. cause I know the basics..
[02:45] <ikonia> Qball: have a look
[02:45] <ferronica> how to change icon size in inkscape
[02:45] <r0bb4n_> ikonia:  14px size of the fonts, not that nice
[02:45] <Qball> dunno if he uses a diff. nick?
[02:45] <ferronica> from 128 pixel to 48 pixel
[02:45] <ikonia> r0bb4n_: just change the fonts ?
[02:45] <Kalisto> umm im using gnome panel. and my App, Places and System tags are located to the very right ON the bar, how can i move them to the left?
[02:45] <r0bb4n_> ikonia: it's about the tcl
[02:46] <soundless> VenusianTreen, + I could use some GUI help I really want to start building GUI's (tried glade with no suc6 0,0)
[02:46] <r0bb4n_> ikonia: tcl 8.5 will do it, ubuntu provide 8.4
[02:46] <ikonia> r0bb4n_: fair enough, you seem reasonable confident in what your doing
[02:46] <r0bb4n_> ikonia: thx mate,
[02:46] <override> Hello guys. I have problem with Ubuntu 7.04. I booted CD, I choose "Start or Install Ubuntu", but Installation did not starting. Login windows starts only. Login: root, pass: root dont work. Any ideas?
[02:47] <ikonia> override: why do you need to login as root ?
[02:47] <ikonia> override: why are you not logging in as the user your created during the install
[02:47] <rambo3> nevalja, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193984
[02:47] <soundless> I think he meant the installation didn't start
[02:47] <VenusianTreen> soundless: Oh, by the way, here's a free book I found invaluable when I was learning Python (still do, for that matter): http://www.diveintopython.org/. Mark Pilgrim starts by posing some real world problems he faced, and shows how he solved them in Python.
[02:48] <ikonia> soundless: so whats the "logging in as root" stuff he's on about ?
[02:48] <ikonia> only the login window starts ??
[02:48] <override> ikonia - so what i should do to start install?
[02:48] <CokeNCode> oh jeeze
[02:48] <override> yeap
[02:48] <CokeNCode> firefox is being a buggy resource hog again
[02:48] <ikonia> override: click the icon
[02:48] <soundless> VenusianTreen: wow thnx I'll try the book ty ^_^
[02:48] <override> What icon?
[02:48] <ikonia> the one that says "install" on the desktop
[02:48] <soundless> ikonia, no clue about that :P
[02:48] <override> But i cant login
[02:48] <ikonia> override: you login as the user you created during the install
[02:48] <azamat> does anyone know a program that generates daily/weekly/monthly statistics from the gnome-system-monitor?
[02:49] <override> NO, i even cant INSTALL, i booted up a CD, and Login window show up
[02:49] <ikonia> azamat: not that I'm aware of as system-monitor is real time - non-logging
[02:49] <anticlockwise_> override: this should not happen, there shouldn't be a login in window during installation
[02:49] <Frogzoo> CokeNCode: couple of things - you enabled pipelining? disabled ipv6? set a path & size on your cache?
[02:49] <ikonia> override: then you have the wrong cd as the live cd auto logs you in
[02:49] <jawee> I killed my root password on accident, so I'm on a Puppy Live cd. Is there any way to recover it?
[02:49] <jawee> Well not killed, I forgot what I changed it to
[02:49] <override> I downloaded yesterday from Ubuntu Site... BTW Thanks for all help ;p
[02:50] <nevalja> ramo3 ty
[02:50] <VenusianTreen> soundless: Oh. I don't have much experience with GUIs myself. What little I do have, I learnt by tinkering with wxWindows, or wxPython. Let me see if I can find a link for you. I do know, though, that the SPE python editor comes with the wx packages, and all the documentation; I just can't remember if there were any examples.
[02:50] <nevalja> rambo3 ty
[02:50] <ikonia> jawee: why are you not using the ubuntu cd b.) why did you change your root password
[02:50] <rambo3> nevalja, nema problema
[02:50] <jawee> ikonia: I couldn't find one on me, I have always used root I just changed it and apparently wrote it down wrong
[02:50] <Rodel> Which flash is better to get, the one for tar and gz or the one for rpm?
[02:50] <ikonia> !flash >rodel
[02:51] <ikonia> jawee: get the ubuntu cd and boot recovery/safe mode
[02:51] <soundless> VenusianTreen, wxPython, I've read something about that but wasn't that for windows? (sorry if I'm wrong)
[02:51] <Frogzoo> Rodel: the one from the repos
[02:51] <jawee> ikonia: There is no file to fix it from here?
[02:51] <ikonia> jawee: yes there is - but if you don't know how to you shouldn't be using the root account
[02:51] <anticlockwise_> soundless: wxPython is cross-platform
[02:51] <soundless> anticlockwise_ didn't knwo that ty
[02:52] <ikonia> anticlockwise_: most interesting
[02:52] <anticlockwise_> soundless: wxPython is just a Python binding for wxWidgets
[02:52] <jawee> ikonia: I've used Linux for years and I'm used to it. I simply made one mistake. I've fixed it in the past I just can't remember the file
[02:52] <jawee> I thought I could drop in for a second and get it
[02:52] <ikonia> jawee: you can also just boot your ubuntu install - login as you and use "sudo" to change the password
[02:52] <stevej> !nx
[02:52] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[02:52] <ikonia> jawee: if you don't know the file to use to change a password your should not be using the root account
[02:53] <ikonia> jawee: a user who has been using linux for years as root should know the password file to change
[02:53] <jawee> ikonia: This is my first time with ubunutu so it was the first thing I did
[02:53] <anticlockwise_> soundless: if you want to build GUIs with Python, try PyGTK or PyQT~~
[02:53] <jawee> ikonia: I know, but I forgot the thing. I've done it in the past.
[02:53] <ikonia> jawee: login as yourself on ubuntu and use sudo passwd root
[02:53] <ikonia> jawee: you don't forget the password file
[02:54] <soundless> anticlockwise_ , seems like there's a whole range I can choose of.. why? I mean what's the difference between them? the design?
[02:54] <ikonia> !offtopic >soundless
[02:54] <anticlockwise_> soundless: The design is just one of the factors, popularity I guess is the main difference, heh
[02:55] <VenusianTreen> soundless: Here's a fairly hefty demo using wxPython: http://pythonide.blogspot.com/. This also seems to be the home page for the editor. You can install the editor using ubuntu's package manager. Also check out this page for more info on SPE: http://www.serpia.org/spe
[02:55] <soundless> anticlockwise_ hehe ok ty for all your help
[02:55] <ikonia> !offtopic | VenusianTreen
[02:55] <ubotu> VenusianTreen: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:55] <anticlockwise_> soundless: np :)
[02:55] <MenZa> I have this problem; I keep losing the connection to my wired internet---a reboot fixes it on every single occassion. sudo dhclient does nothing.
[02:55] <soundless> ikonia, srry 'bout that
[02:55] <ikonia> not a problem
[02:55] <ikonia> just been going on for a while
[02:55] <ikonia> best to move it to the right channel
[02:55] <soundless> VenusianTreen, ty again you're a really great help :)
[02:56] <ikonia> MenZa: does your syslog report anything such as the dhcp address being dropped, when it dies if you do an ifconfig does your card still have an address?
[02:56] <VenusianTreen> ikonia: ubotu: whoops, sorry guys. I was just passing the time while waiting for responses.
[02:56] <MenZa> ikonia: I've checked neither of those, honestly
[02:56] <pepe> holas
[02:56] <MenZa> ikonia: I'll do that the next time I have that problem
[02:57] <MenZa> !es | pepe
[02:57] <ubotu> pepe: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:57] <ikonia> MenZa: I not a problem, have a quick glance at it, and let me know the results if you want to walk if through
[02:57] <pepe> alguien sabe porque un lsusb no muestran nada y se bloquea la consola???
[02:57] <oriez> why i can't turn off my computer in XGL mode
[02:57] <ikonia> VenusianTreen: its not a problem, don't worry
[02:57] <MenZa> shall do, ikonia
[02:57] <shawn34> i have a list of the display modes my monitor can use incl. frequencies. can anyone help me set up my xorg properly?
[02:57] <MenZa> pepe: please go to #ubuntu-es for Spanish support
[02:57] <MenZa> O.o
[02:57] <ikonia> MenZa: sorry, my typing was terrible then
[02:57] <stefg> MenZa: avahi has a record for causing problems like that, iirc
[02:57] <MenZa> ikonia: I got the point ;)
[02:57] <MenZa> avahi, stefg?
[02:57] <stefg> !info avahi | menza
[02:58] <ubotu> menza: Package avahi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:58] <MenZa> hmm
[02:58] <VenusianTreen> soundless: I've joined #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to ask any more questions.
[02:59] <ikonia> VenusianTreen: good man, thanks. I wish more people where as reasonable as that
[02:59] <MenZa> stefg: I appear to have a tabcomplete for "avahi-"
[02:59] <MenZa> ahh
[02:59] <MenZa> avahi-autoipd and avahi-daemon
[02:59] <Hylk0r> Hello :-)
[02:59] <stefg> MenZa: avahi is linux' idea of bonjour (auto-discovering of network-services)... apt-cache serach avahi-daemon
[03:00] <MenZa> I have avahi-daemon installed :/
[03:00] <soundless> VenusianTreen tyvm I'll try to read this stuff before I ask anymore questions
[03:00] <MenZa> hmm
[03:00] <MenZa> mDNS/DNS-SD daemon
[03:00] <stefg> MenZa: get rid of it if you don't use it and see if the problem persists
[03:00] <MenZa> I'll do that; thanks
[03:00] <MenZa> Wait
[03:00] <aLeSD> hi all
[03:00] <MenZa> Which network services are we talking about here?
[03:00] <sadadsad> !help
[03:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:00] <aLeSD> someone could suggest me an application to record the video from my webcam ?
[03:01] <MenZa> sadadsad: State your question :
[03:01] <MenZa> :)
[03:01] <stefg> MenZa: google is you friend :-)
[03:01] <MenZa> stefg: ahh, I'll check; thanks :)
[03:02] <MenZa> stefg, I'm just mildly scared that I'll lose connection entirely if I remove it---I won't, will I?
[03:02] <MenZa> I'm assuming dhclient is what gets my dynamic IP initially
[03:02] <sadadsad> !<factoid>
[03:02] <stefg> MenZa: no, dhcp and avahi are two differrent things... do you need your x-box 360 to automatically see the printer on your ubuntu-box ?
[03:05] <Hylk0r> how can I install pyopengl docs?
[03:05] <shawn34> I created a modline for my monitor. best display res should be 1680*1050 refresh at 60hz. However no matter what I do when I goto prefs>resolution, i only have refresh rates of 50 & 54. No 60. how do I fix this?
[03:07] <stefg> shawn34: run a nvidia-card by chance?
[03:07] <shawn34> stefg, yes
[03:07] <subzero2000> join ##php
[03:07] <subzero2000> oops
[03:08] <stefg> shawn34: sudo nvidia-xsettings (nvidia own tool to set screen properties). gnome's applet sometimes gets fooled or has too conservative values
[03:08] <Tomatix> Does it exists any guides on how I can develop an Java application for my cell phone?
[03:08] <ikonia> Tomatix: this is ubuntu support only
[03:08] <Tomatix> maybe wrong channel
[03:08] <ikonia> yes
[03:08] <ikonia> wrong channel
[03:08] <shawn34> stefg, don't have that command, guess i have to install it first or should i already have it ?
[03:08] <Tomatix> was yo use off-topic sorry
[03:08] <speedy> Hello everybody! I have a problem, i have install ubuntu 7.04 but when i start a 3d game full screen i have a black screen but i listen sound, i have install the nvidia driver but i don't know what is the problem, can you help me???
[03:09] <stefg> shawn34: *nvidia-xconfig* , sorry
[03:09] <Hylk0r> does nobody know how I can install the pyopengl docs?
[03:09] <mahmoud__> apt
[03:09] <stefg> shawn34: *nvidia-setiings* , sorry, no i got it straight
[03:09] <shawn34> stefg, it does it itself? didn't give me any options or anything just wrote the xorg. that right?
[03:10] <Hylk0r> mahmoud_: but there isn't a package called pyopengl-docs listed in synaptic
[03:10] <stefg> shawn34: these are all named too similar... that's the gui-tool
[03:10] <shawn34> stefg, bash: nvidia-setiings: command not found
[03:10] <stefg> shawn34: nvidia-settings
[03:11] <shawn34> oops
[03:13] <nevalja> rambo3 u there
[03:16] <Kalisto> well i guess it is possible to upgrade from Dapper to feisty without breaking your system :D
[03:16] <ikonia> no its not
[03:17] <ikonia> you need to go to 6.0.6 --> 6.10 ---> 7.04
[03:17] <mahmoud__> Kalisto, how?
[03:17] <Kalisto> ikonia, yea it is. i just did it this morning.
[03:17] <MrMiste1> evolving wings is possible
[03:17] <MenZa> stefg: My net completely broke now :S
[03:17] <ikonia> and if your doing that you may as well just install
[03:17] <ikonia> reinstall sorry
[03:17] <Kalisto> ikonia, thats what i meant
[03:17] <Kalisto> i went from 6.0 to 6.10. to 7.04
[03:17] <Kalisto> took only 2 hours
[03:18] <stefg> MenZa: so go to the network settings, you might have to reenter the information manually again (IP, netmask, gateway)
[03:18] <Kalisto> ikonia, can't reinstall too many apps and stuff i dont want to spend setting up again
[03:18] <MenZa> stefg: I'm on a dynamic IP
[03:18] <MenZa> I'm on a livecd atm
[03:18] <ikonia> backup configs - re-install
[03:18] <stefg> MenZa: so you have adsl via pppoe?
[03:18] <jramsey> what's the package name for the app that will play real media files?
[03:19] <mahmoud__> Kalisto, i thought that you've done an upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04 without installing edgy
[03:19] <Frogzoo> vlc plays most everything
[03:19] <exopoxis> hello, i'm new to ubuntu, i have this question: why if i want to remove mozilla-firefox apt tries to remove ubuntu-desktop...? in what way does ubuntu-desktop depende on mozilla-firefox? =S
[03:19] <wols_> jramsey: search for "helix"
[03:19] <jramsey> wols_, ok txs
[03:19] <MenZa> stefg: I have absolutely no clue
[03:19] <MenZa> stefg: It's definitely an ADSL connection
[03:19] <wols_> exopoxis: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[03:20] <MrMiste1> exopoxis: i think firefox is part of a metapackage
[03:20] <MrMiste1> right, wols
[03:20] <wols_> MenZa: you probably need PPPoE
[03:20] <MenZa> hrm.
[03:20] <exopoxis> i figured it out, wols_, so is there a way to safely remove firefox?
[03:20] <MenZa> And.. I'd do that how, now_
[03:20] <Pelo> MenZa, whas is your issue ?
[03:20] <stefg> MenZa: try to run sudo pppoeconf in a terminal,
[03:20] <exopoxis> becouse if there is not............
[03:20] <wols_> exopoxis: yes. apt-get remove as you just attempted
[03:20] <MenZa> right, stefg, let me just boot my laptop and regular system
[03:20] <MenZa> bbias
[03:20] <aryah> removing the metapackage shouldnt harm anything
[03:21] <aa_> hi, I have this continuing problem of a usb device that sometimes appears on /dev/input/event2 and sometimes on /dev/input/event4. When its on event2 it works, but when its on event4 it doesn't work. By doesn't work I mean cat /dev/input/event4 yields nothing, and so nothing else works, X drivers etc. Anyone seen a weirdness like this before?
[03:21] <exopoxis> ok, let's see, thanks
[03:21] <MrMiste1> does removing a metapackage remove all of its subsidiaryies?
[03:21] <speedy> Hello everybody! I have a problem, i have install ubuntu 7.04 but when i start a 3d game full screen i have a black screen but i listen sound, i have install the nvidia driver but i don't know what is the problem, can you help me???
[03:21] <stefg> MenZa: and while you are at it... if you don't need it disbla network-manager, too
[03:21] <graveson> can ubuntu be used as a firewall and antivirus for the network and can this be managed  with a graphical tool
[03:21] <jramsey> wols_, do i need to close/reopen firefox before it recognized helix as an rm player? i've instalelled it but firefox doesn't give me the option
[03:22] <aa_> this is on feisty, edgy doesn't move the device around, but seems the kernel module is broken in the 2.6.17 kernel, so it's no use
[03:22] <Kalisto> haha neveball is the coolest Linux game!!! awsome
[03:22] <MrMiste1> graveson: is it's just a specific firewall machine, try m0n0wall
[03:22] <stefg> graveson: yes, although there might be distros which are more targetted to being used as gateway/firewall
[03:23] <graveson> mrmistel: no i use it as a desktop
[03:23] <Pelo> MrMiste1,  no it does not ,  meta pacakge is just a way for the programmer to save some work with the installer,  all other programs are set as dependeices of the meta pacakge so yo only need to install the meta and all the others are automaticaly intalled because the meta "needs" them ,  removing a package does not remove it's dependencies so you can remove the meta package safely
[03:23] <MrMiste1> ah, thanks pelo
[03:23] <graveson> stefg: can you recommend any ?
[03:24] <stefg> graveson: it's sort of a paradoxon to have firewall and desktop on the same machine. What exactly are you trying to do?
[03:24] <MrMiste1> graveson:  smoothwall
[03:24] <kurisu> arrg...  When I try to enable desktop effects it says that they can't be enabled. Somebody please help.
[03:27] <MenZa> stefg: It couldn't establish a connection
[03:27] <TOoSmOotH> so I am installing from a USB thumb drive
[03:27] <TOoSmOotH> when I go to mount /dev/cdrom it can't find the fob
[03:27] <ejack_> Errr...this is actually after I install and boot for the first time.
[03:27] <TOoSmOotH> or thumb drive
[03:27] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH,  can you just not use the enter key as punctuation, this is a busy chanel it makes it hard to follow you
[03:27] <jramsey> anyone; i've installed helix but firefox doesn't recognize a real media file with the totem movie player (default); helix isn't in the list of options and i've installed the firefox helix plugin
[03:28] <ultrajumboshrimp> Somebody please answer my question.
[03:28] <ultrajumboshrimp> I'm relatively new to Ubuntu.
[03:28] <ultrajumboshrimp> and Linux.
[03:28] <TOoSmOotH> ok
[03:28] <stefg> graveson: you will still need an access scanner on the win-boxes. although you can have Linux act as firewall, and scan mail for malware nothing on a linux-server will prevent a malicious site to exploit a IE6 vulnerability (except an on-access-scanner on the very machine)
[03:28] <ultrajumboshrimp> When I try to enable desktop effects it says that they can't be enabled. Somebody please help.
[03:28] <ipx> ultrajumboshrimp: it's impossible to answer a question like that with such little information :/
[03:28] <ultrajumboshrimp> ipx: what information do you need?
[03:28] <ultrajumboshrimp> ipx: I'll get it for you.
[03:29] <ipx> imagine me asking you why my car isnt working. What would you answer?
[03:29] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH, usb thumb drive won'T be in /dev/cdrom,  try using gparted to see what drives are connected and what their devtree is
[03:29] <bahram> hi everybody...i have installed ubuntu on my amd64 x2 laptop...but my cpu fan always works at middle speed...what can i do?
[03:29] <ipx> ultrajumboshrimp: sorry im not a linux-guru either
[03:29] <LordTureis> ultrajumboshrimp: what is the error message it says?
[03:29] <AnAnt> ikonia: hello, I'm the one with windows domain problem, you know what to search for to solve my problem ?
[03:29] <TOoSmOotH> I am following the instructions here:
[03:29] <por_fueg0> what is your windows domain issue ?
[03:29] <TOoSmOotH> ok will try that
[03:29] <ikonia> AnAnt: you'll have to learn about pam
[03:29] <MenZa> stefg ?
[03:29] <ultrajumboshrimp> LordTureis: "Desktop effects could not be enabled."
[03:29] <AnAnt> ikonia: how's that ?
[03:30] <Pelo> ultrajumboshrimp,  is is possible that you donT have enough hardware to run it but I doubt it,   what is your video card 6
[03:30] <exopoxis> what's your video card, ultrajumboshrimp
[03:30] <Pelo> ?
[03:30] <ikonia> AnAnt: based on your desription, pam is not setup right
[03:30] <AnAnt> ikonia: it is
[03:30] <AnAnt> !activedirectory
[03:30] <ubotu> You can learn more about ActiveDirectory intergration at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[03:30] <stefg> MenZa: so are you behind a router?... i need to know how you are connected before i can help any further
[03:30] <AnAnt> ikonia: I set it up according to instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[03:30] <ikonia> AnAnt: so why are you asking me how to fix it if I've told you I believe pam is setup wrong
[03:31] <LordTureis> ultrajumboshrimp:  that's it?  ...try running system > administration > Restricted Drivers Manager
[03:31] <exopoxis> ultrajumboshrimp: glxinfo | grep direct
[03:31] <AnAnt> ikonia: well, I dunno what to look for
[03:31] <ultrajumboshrimp> exopoxis: what does that do?
[03:31] <MenZa> stefg: I'm connected through a switch
[03:31] <dnigmig> /JOIN #ubuntustudio,
[03:31] <jramsey> anyone know helix and how to install with firefox?
[03:31] <AnAnt> ikonia: I don't understand PAM, I just followed instructions in the site
[03:31] <MenZa> stefg: so it's not that blocking it
[03:31] <ultrajumboshrimp> exopoxis: it answers "Yes" in terminal
[03:31] <ikonia> AnAnt: so don't be so quick to say its setup fine
[03:32] <kurisu> toughbooks are amazing laptops, i dont want to ruin it by having to put windows on it, just need my wifi working
[03:32] <Moduliz0r> Is there any software for Ubuntu that does biometric authentication, with AuthenTec chips?
[03:32] <AnAnt> ikonia: I didn't say it is fine, I just said that I set it up according to the site
[03:32] <exopoxis> what's your video card?, ultrajumboshrimp
 ikonia: it is
[03:32] <AnAnt> ikonia: I mean, that's what I meant
[03:32] <Pelo> Moduliz0r,  search biometric in synaptic
[03:32] <stefg> MenZa: so no pppoe... does 'sudo dhclient eth0' get you an IP?
[03:32] <exopoxis> nvidia?, ultrajumboshrimp
[03:32] <Moduliz0r> Pelo: I did but there was nothing
[03:32] <AnAnt> ikonia: ok, I didn't understand you then
[03:32] <MenZa> stefg: it does yeah
[03:32] <VenusianTreen> ejack_: Anyone answered your question yet? Check out the page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx. Basically, you will have to install the fw_cutter package.
[03:32] <MenZa> stefg: I'm back online
[03:33] <ultrajumboshrimp> exopoxis: i dont know
[03:33] <Pelo> Moduliz0r, alternate keywords ? but if you know of another such prog for linux, you can still install it in ubuntu with the source code
[03:33] <Moduliz0r> ok
[03:33] <stefg> MenZa: see, so now go to the Admin-network applet and set dhcp as your configuration (to make it work permanently
[03:33] <AnAnt> ikonia: so, how to learn about pam ?
[03:33] <exopoxis> ultrajumboshrimp: lspci will help
[03:33] <VenusianTreen> ejack_: If you install it using the package manager GUI under Feisty, the package will fetch and extract the relevant firmware for you as it's been configured.
[03:33] <ultrajumboshrimp> LordTureis: it says my hardware doesnt need restricted drivers
[03:34] <ikonia> AnAnt: read
[03:34] <AnAnt> ikonia: read what ?
[03:34] <LordTureis> ultrajumboshrimp: great!  never mind
[03:34] <ikonia> the docs
[03:34] <aryah> ultra, glxinfo shows information about how your the AGLX  system that connects your X window system and OpenGL for 3D effects, the pipe sign | passes that information to the next command, and grep filters that information searching for the word stated after it , in this case "direct"
[03:34] <Pelo> Moduliz0r, if it exists for linux you can install it in any distro,  it's just easier if you have it in the package manager already, but it's not mendatory
[03:34] <graveson> stefg: do you have any recommendations on what the best way to go about his
[03:34] <graveson> mrmistel: do you have any recommendations on what the best way to go about his
[03:34] <AnAnt> ikonia: pam & hal/dbus are related ?
[03:34] <ejack_> VenusianTreen: I can only actually boot up into recovery mode. How do I do this all text based?
[03:35] <VenusianTreen> ejack_: been --> being
[03:35] <Pelo> ultrajumboshrimp,  the ppl in #ubuntu-effects might be better equiped to help you with this issue
[03:35] <AnAnt> ikonia: what docs ?
[03:35] <AnAnt> ikonia: I can't find any /usr/share/doc/pam*
[03:35] <stefg> graveson: you won't like the answer: ditch win for a OS that doesn't need virus-scanners or pay your way through vendor-traps :-\
[03:35] <MenZa> stefg: now it's not resolving
[03:35] <AnAnt> ikonia: and man pam gives me info about a image format called pam
[03:36] <ikonia> AnAnt: searc the net
[03:36] <ikonia> search
[03:36] <ultrajumboshrimp> Pelo: thanks
[03:36] <MenZa> stefg: it gives me an IP
[03:36] <MenZa> stefg: but I can't connect to Jabber, use Firefox or download packages
[03:36] <stefg> graveson: althought there's decent (beer-) free AV-solutions for windows
[03:37] <stefg> MenZa: who's administering that network?
[03:37] <MenZa> stefg, I am
[03:37] <SoulChild> UBUNTU IS AN OLD AFRICAN WORD FOR: "I CAN'T CONFIGURE DEBIAN" LOL
[03:37] <stefg> MenZa: so the 'switch' is a router actually?
[03:37] <aryah> rofl SoulChild :)
[03:37] <SoulChild> hehe :D
[03:37] <graveson> stefg: until i can capture and encode videos efficiently with linux, i cannot make the move right now .thanks anyway for your help
[03:37] <exopoxis> SoulChild: specially becouse debian being so hard to configure =SSSSSS
[03:38] <aryah> but I used debian before ubuntu, it was fine , only this is better :)
[03:38] <MenZa> stefg, nope, it's just a switch. Distributes the connections; that's all it does. It doesn't even have host software.
[03:38] <TOoSmOotH> Pelo: when I boot from the USB thumbdrive I don't have gparted as an option. I am using the alternate install since the intel_agp locks up the live cd install. From the ubuntu instructions I am using you are supossed to trick the installer by mounting the thumb drive as /cdrom so that the installer will see it and move forward. The instructions I am using are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[03:38] <SoulChild> exopoxis: yeah,... that's why i don't understand why i should use ubuntu if there is debain ,..
[03:38] <ipx> "Distributes the connections" makes it sound like a router ^^
[03:39] <MenZa> ipx: no forwarding, no rules, no firewall, no nothing
[03:39] <feniks> hello why i cant get wireless connection in knetworkmanager
[03:39] <exopoxis> that's what free software is about, choices, SoulChild
[03:39] <MenZa> It's pretty much a "stripped down" router, I guess; but it has no control of the network. At all.
[03:39] <exopoxis> SoulChild: dont start a flamewar =S
[03:39] <MenZa> !ops
[03:39] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:39] <feniks> hello why i cant get wireless connection in knetworkmanager
[03:39] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH, I think I get you now,  this is not an installed ubuntu system yet,  you are trying to install ubuntu using the usb stick as the installation cdrom ? right ?
[03:40] <TOoSmOotH> Pelo: That is correct
[03:40] <aryah> in my case, it was the stable branch, 3.1 since I had that on DVDs and only a dialup conection. So with time, all my libraries were very old, and I got broadband in the meantime, and ubuntu was all the hype at the time, so I decided to give it a try :)
[03:40] <stefg> MenZa: DNS isn't working it seems... use the applet to set everything to dhcp, then reboot. this should make the DHCP-server on the other end give you a DNS-server -IP again
[03:40] <elkbuntu> SoulChild, feel free to use debian if you wish. i believe their channel is #debian
[03:40] <jramsey> i've a redhat pkg; how can in install it on ubuntu?
[03:40] <MenZa> stefg: it was set to dhcp already
[03:40] <MenZa> Thank you Hobbsee
[03:40] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH, ok this is another  story altogether, cna you link me to the instructions so I can have a look , I've never done this bit before
[03:41] <TOoSmOotH> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[03:41] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: *hugs* :)
[03:41] <MenZa> stefg: rebooting
[03:41] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH, give me a minute
[03:41] <TOoSmOotH> No problem
[03:41] <MrMiste1> !metabot
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metabot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH, which step are you at right now, , it's a big page
[03:42] <VenusianTreen> ejack_: Eeeeh! Now you're asking! Does "sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter" work in recovery mode?
[03:42] <TOoSmOotH> "Mounting the Flash drive as /cdrom"
[03:42] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH, k old on
[03:43] <ipx> I recently installed a new ATI-Driver(8.36.5), but a well-known problem on the older ATI-Driver i had (8.28.8) still remains. How come? Could there be old modules left there still in use?
[03:43] <MenZa> stefg: whee, I'm back online ^_^
[03:43] <MenZa> thank you
[03:44] <r00tintheb0x> hi all, i have a sony cpd-520gs 21 inch monitor that i cant get the resolution correct on. i've already "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to no avail.
[03:44] <nub19> hey
[03:44] <MrMiste1> !ping
[03:44] <nub19> how can i access a shared folder on windowsxp from xubuntu?
[03:44] <ubotu> pong
[03:44] <jramsey> ok rm help pls; i installed mplayer and it reads the .rm file (audio only), and plays it but i hear nothing on my speakers; is there a config option??
[03:44] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH, ok I assume you have booted from the usb stick,   run all those command in root, ie     prefix each command line with the word   sudo as in     sudo mkdir /cdrom /dev/cdroms
[03:44] <ipx> nub19: smbclient
[03:44] <nub19> is that program?
[03:44] <r00tintheb0x> Any clue as to why it wont go into 1280x960?
[03:44] <ipx> nub19: for example, first make a "smbclient -L *servername*"
[03:45] <tux_wears_a_tux> Hi. I'm trying to create a guest account. Is there a way to have no password on it?
[03:45] <ipx> nub19: yes, in the terminal, "sudo apt-get install smbclient".
[03:45] <ikonia> tux_wears_a_tux: set it to ""
[03:45] <ikonia> eg: nothing
[03:45] <ipx> nub19: after uve done it u see all the maps that this computer shares. Then you write "smbclient \\\\*servername*\\*one of the folders*
[03:45] <MrMiste1> !botsnack
[03:45] <tux_wears_a_tux> ikonia: does "" make it have no password?
[03:45] <TOoSmOotH> Pelo: Yes I get Mounting /dev/sdb1 on /cdrom failed: No such Device
[03:45] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:45] <nub19> what if i dont know the name of the folder?
[03:46] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH, hold on
[03:46] <d2812> Has anyone here used sshfs in /etc/fstab? I need to use a custom port and i'm not too sure how to pass sshfs options in /etc/fstab
[03:46] <ipx> nub19: just told u how to get the foldernames?
[03:46] <ipx> nub19: read the first line i wrote
[03:46] <TOoSmOotH> Pelo: I have tried mounting and sdx with a number attached
[03:46] <nub19> oh ok
[03:46] <stefg> nub19: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:46] <tux_wears_a_tux> ikonia: what does that do?
[03:46] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH, which command gives you that error msg ?
[03:46] <nub19> another weird "bug"
[03:46] <nub19> if i do su
[03:46] <nub19> and type in the root pass it dont match
[03:47] <tux_wears_a_tux> How do you get a user account to have no password, such as a guest account
[03:47] <nub19> but sudo works
[03:47] <TOoSmOotH> Pelo: mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /cdrom
[03:47] <aryah> there are GUI clients for smb, i dont recall exactly, it used to be something like lin neighbourhood
[03:47] <ipx> nub19:  u need to create a root-account first before using su in ubuntu
[03:47] <nub19> k
[03:47] <r00tintheb0x> No ideas on the resolution issue eh?
[03:48] <ipx> I recently installed a new ATI-Driver(8.36.5), but a well-known problem on the older ATI-Driver i had (8.28.8) still remains. How come? Could there be old modules left there still in use?
[03:48] <tommie-lie> nub19: if you need a root shell for whatever reason, use "sudo -s"
[03:48] <MrMiste1> !fixvideoresolution
[03:48] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:48] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH,   are you in the gui mode ? switch to the gui mode,    in the menu > system > admin >  gnome partition editor, find out what the actualy  devtree of your usb stick is
[03:48] <TOoSmOotH> Pelo: is it possible to build the kernel with jmocron support from another ubuntu box since the issue is fixed in 2.6.18+ ?
[03:48] <tux_wears_a_tux> How do you get a user account to have no password, such as a guest account?
[03:48] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH, I have no idea on that one
[03:48] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH, brb,
[03:49] <Sonderblade> how do you list all installed packages?
[03:49] <hashier> hi
[03:49] <nub19> whats the shortcut to show me the inputwindow to start a program?
[03:49] <tux_wears_a_tux> How do you get a user account to have no password, such as a guest account
[03:49] <tux_wears_a_tux> ?
[03:49] <MrMiste1> !passwor
[03:49] <tux_wears_a_tux> If you know, please answer. I need to set up a guest account.
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about passwor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <MrMiste1> !password
[03:50] <ikonia> tux_wears_a_tux: just set an empty password
[03:50] <aryah> sonderblade , in the synaptic manager, select 'status' then 'installed'
[03:50] <tux_wears_a_tux> ikonia: it won't let me - it says I need at least 6 characters
[03:51] <makuseru> would somthing i did in a term before i logged in be in the system logs?
[03:51] <ikonia> tux_wears_a_tux: use "sudo password $user_name" after its created
[03:51] <tux_wears_a_tux> ikonia: ooh! maybe that'll work
[03:51] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH,  I'm back , what did yo find out ?
[03:51] <TOoSmOotH> Pelo: The GUI install won't load as there is a problem with the p5b and the agp chipset. I will just have to go pick up a SATA dvd drive to do the install
[03:51] <ikonia> tux_wears_a_tux: its just the gnome-tool thats stopping you
[03:52] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH, that might be easier ,
[03:52] <TOoSmOotH> Pelo: Thanks for your help
[03:52] <tux_wears_a_tux> ikonia: wat's the gnome-tool? and password isn't a command
[03:52] <timmyw29> is there a command i can use to see whether i'm using 3d accel or not?
[03:52] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH, try this,   type parted
[03:52] <TOoSmOotH> command not ofund
[03:52] <ikonia> tux_wears_a_tux: its "passwd" sorry
[03:52] <tux_wears_a_tux> ikonia : ok. h/o
[03:52] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH, go for the boroewed dvd then
[03:53] <TOoSmOotH> Pelo: It;s a stripped down shell during the isntall
[03:53] <ikonia> timmyw29: man glxgears
[03:53] <TOoSmOotH> Pelo: Thanks Again!
[03:53] <Pelo> TOoSmOotH,  best of luck
[03:53] <tux_wears_a_tux> ikonia: it still needs a password
[03:53] <edgy> if I used my arrow keys to reach a command from history and deleted it using BACKSPACE and exit the shell, I expected it would be deleted from history but it didn't, why?
[03:54] <ejack_> VenusianTreen: yeah, I just went and tried it. I don't get the error anymore but now it just hangs in the middle of startup... *shrug* I've even had problems with this wireless adapter in windows. Guess I shouldn't have been suprised.
[03:54] <MrMiste1> tux_wears_a_tux: Do you only have the one account
[03:54] <tux_wears_a_tux> MrMiste1: i just set up a guest account. the one I'm using is my regular account.
[03:54] <ikonia> tux_wears_a_tux: I see, well you can either edit the password policy in /etc/login.defs or edit /etc/shadow directly to remove the password
[03:54] <tux_wears_a_tux> ikonia: how do I do that?
[03:54] <James> I typed 'free the fish' and now I can't get rid of him, anybody know how?
[03:54] <tux_wears_a_tux> James: what is that/
[03:54] <ikonia> tux_wears_a_tux: edit the file /etc/login.defs to change the policy
[03:55] <ikonia> tux_wears_a_tux: or empty the password field in /etc/shadow
[03:55] <MrMiste1> t_w_a_t: "sudo gedit /etc/login.defs"
[03:55] <tux_wears_a_tux> ikonia: how do I do that?
[03:55] <Pelo> James,  kill the process
[03:55] <ikonia> tux_wears_a_tux: I've just told ou
[03:55] <makuseru> would somthing i did in a term before i logged in be in the system logs?
[03:55] <aryah> ejack, i think wireless can often be a problem, yes, often solvable, often not trivially so....
[03:55] <MrMiste1> jeez
[03:55] <James> tux_wears_a_tux: press Alt-F2, type 'free the fish' and a fish appears and floats about
[03:55] <ikonia> MrMiste1: whats with the language
[03:55] <James> Pelo: It doesn't seem to be there
[03:55] <MrMiste1> apologies
[03:55] <tux_wears_a_tux> ok. I see. Thanks.
[03:55] <MrMiste1> !language
[03:55] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:56] <ikonia> MrMiste1: I feel your frustration
[03:56] <tux_wears_a_tux> James: how do you get rid of that?
[03:56] <MrMiste1> click on it
[03:56] <r00tintheb0x> Hi. I've got a Sony CPD-520GS 21" CRT that im trying to get a higher resolution out of. I've already reconfigured xorg and checked my xorg.conf file... but i cant get any higher than 1004x768. Any ideas?
[03:56] <MrMiste1> !xorg
[03:56] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:56] <James> tux_wears_a_tux: That is my question
[03:56] <tux_wears_a_tux> James: oh.
[03:57] <ikonia> tux_wears_a_tux: perhaps read before typing random commands you have no idea
[03:57] <MrMiste1> click on de fish
[03:57] <James> tux_wears_a_tux: clicking just makes him go to the side of the screen
[03:57] <r00tintheb0x> brb
[03:57] <tux_wears_a_tux> James: "killall free the fish" in terminal should help
[03:57] <ubuntu> hum
[03:57] <MrMiste1> mine disappeared
[03:57] <aryah> :)
[03:57] <ubuntu> I deleted a file accidientaly on reiserfs
[03:57] <MrMiste1> try kill free the fish
[03:57] <Pelo> r00tintheb0x,  you might need to change the horizsync value  make the end one higher,  and you actualy need to restart X for the changes to take effect
[03:57] <r00tintheb0x> Okay.
[03:57] <James> tux_wears_a_tux: thx
[03:57] <ubuntu> in fatI moved one over one other
[03:57] <ubuntu> cn I recover it ?
[03:57] <r00tintheb0x> Pelo, i've changed that in xorg.conf to the monitors exact specs and have even rebooted.
[03:57] <r00tintheb0x> :(
[03:58] <Paumad> hello all
[03:58] <VenusianTreen> ejack_: I also have a bcm43xx card, and I, too, have had no end of problems under both Windows (even with supported drivers) and under Linux.
[03:58] <ikonia> r00tintheb0x: are you using an nvidia card by any chance ?
[03:58] <jramsey> what terminal cmd do i use to display the ubuntu version?
[03:58] <Pelo> r00tintheb0x,  ware yo sure you have the right video card ?
[03:58] <ikonia> jramsey: lsb_release -i (or -a)
[03:58] <makuseru> r00tintheb0x: have you tried "sudo dpkg-recongifure xserver-xorg"?
[03:58] <gb__> hi guys
[03:58] <jramsey> ikonia, ty
[03:58] <r00tintheb0x> here's my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/raw/513928
[03:58] <Paumad> im having problems with beryl
[03:58] <r00tintheb0x> yes makuseru i have.
[03:58] <gb__> got a query
[03:58] <ikonia> r00tintheb0x: are you using an nvidia card by any chance ?
[03:58] <r00tintheb0x> ikonia, no, its a i915 with a i810 driver
[03:58] <gb__> Lilacor: hey mate
[03:59] <MrMiste1> !nvidia
[03:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:59] <ikonia> r00tintheb0x: got you
[03:59] <gb__> Lilacor:  know anything bout vsftpd?
[03:59] <VenusianTreen> ejack_: If the output from the 'lspci' command matches '08:0a.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)', it means trouble.
[03:59] <r00tintheb0x> i do gb__
[03:59] <nub19> another bug, the autohide of my startbar wont work :s
[03:59] <r00tintheb0x> what do you want to know.
[03:59] <nub19> is this fixable?
[03:59] <gb__> r00tintheb0x: hi sir
[03:59] <Paumad> i have all the right drivers
[03:59] <r00tintheb0x> hi
[03:59] <Paumad> and for like 10 minutes it worked
[03:59] <makuseru> r00tintheb0x: and what happened when you chose somthing abver 1024x768? (i have a 15inch crt running 1280x1024)
[03:59] <jramsey> ikonia, so i have dapper 6.06 and get no sound; any suggestions? i see alsa modules loaded when i enter lsmod | grep snd
[03:59] <tux_wears_a_tux> James: did it work?
[03:59] <MrMiste1> !beryl
[03:59] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:59] <James> tux_wears_a_fish: no
[03:59] <ikonia> jramsey: no
[03:59] <MrMiste1> blasted ubotu
[03:59] <Pelo> r00tintheb0x,  it look fine to be , I donT' see what could be the problem sorry I can'T help
[03:59] <gb__> r00tintheb0x:  if hosts.allow or hosts.deny file go missing , will ftpd stop working?
[03:59] <Paumad> but then it crashed and since then it hasnt been working at all
[03:59] <timmyw29> harharhar!!
[03:59] <r00tintheb0x> i dont have the option in the resolution gui switches in gnome.
[03:59] <Pelo> later folks
[03:59] <gb__> those files were there before
[04:00] <gb__> cant see them now
[04:00] <r00tintheb0x> it only goes to 1024x768
[04:00] <tux_wears_a_tux> James: try restarting GNOME. press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. but be aware that all open apps will close
[04:00] <Paumad> but it doesnt give me any error message
[04:00] <timmyw29> i have t3h d1r3ct r3nd3r1ngz
[04:00] <ikonia> r00tintheb0x: you may need 915resolution
[04:00] <gb__> so i copes 1 from sample and edited it to my liking
[04:00] <r00tintheb0x> Should i try 16bit color pelo?
[04:00] <gb__> still it wont work
[04:00] <jramsey> anyone good with ubuntu sound devices? i get no sound with dapper
[04:00] <timmyw29> tyty
[04:00] <r00tintheb0x> maybe so ikonia
[04:00] <VenusianTreen> ejack_: I've seen threads where people have managed to get a broadcom driver to work, but not if they had this version. After a week of frustration trying to get this model working, I eventually went out and bought another USB wireless dongle.
[04:00] <makuseru> r00tintheb0x: i asked you if you did the "sudo dpgk-reconfgre xserver-xorg"
[04:00] <timmyw29> i could also use some help with the resolution stuff
[04:00] <ikonia> r00tintheb0x: thats a common issue I've had with 915's
[04:00] <ikonia> timmyw29: what's the problem
[04:00] <makuseru> r00tintheb0x: you can choose your res through that
[04:00] <r00tintheb0x> makuseru, i said yes.
[04:01] <r00tintheb0x> makuseru, i've pasted my xorg.conf file.
[04:01] <makuseru> well why are you complaning about GUI's?
[04:01] <gb__> so any ideas r00tintheb0x ?
[04:01] <timmyw29> just missing all the resolutions above 1024x768
[04:01] <r00tintheb0x> All the questions you're asking are answered there.
[04:01] <r00tintheb0x> gb__, your answer is no
[04:01] <aryah> re reiser and undeleting, I never used it but google seems to think it can be done, sometimes, heres something about it http://antrix.net/journal/techtalk/reiserfs_data_recovery_howto.comments
[04:01] <ikonia> timmyw29: did you read the instructions in the ati page I sent you
[04:01] <James> in terminal type 'apt-get moo' lol
[04:01] <timmyw29> a friend helped me out by editing my xorg.conf and having me restart it, but when i used those higher resolutions i found a lot of rendering issues
[04:01] <MrMiste1> !resolution
[04:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:01] <timmyw29> and yep been through the page
[04:01] <r00tintheb0x> gb__, the linux machines host.allow and host.deny, or vsftpd's?
[04:01] <MrMiste1> ah
[04:02] <gb__> vsftpd's
[04:02] <gb__> will it stop working
[04:02] <gb__> thing is
[04:02] <makuseru> would somthing i did in a term before i logged in be in the system logs?
[04:02] <ikonia> timmyw29: if you can't use higher res's its potentially a problem with your drivers/video card compatability
[04:02] <timmyw29> i have 3d rendering... just makes me sad having such a tiny desktop
[04:02] <gb__> i cant login from here with local account as anon. blocked
[04:02] <MrMiste1> have you mooed today
[04:02] <gb__> but my friends cant
[04:02] <MrMiste1> have you mooed today
[04:02] <James> MrMistel: yeah hehe
[04:02] <xenox> salve
[04:02] <MrMiste1> didn't they change that in feisty
[04:02] <James> nope
[04:02] <James>  apt-get moo
[04:02] <James>          (__)
[04:02] <James>          (oo)
[04:02] <James>    /------\/
[04:02] <James>   / |    ||
[04:02] <MrMiste1> something else cow related
[04:03] <James>  *  /\---/\
[04:03] <James>     ~~   ~~
[04:03] <James> ...."Have you mooed today?"...
[04:03] <makuseru> James: no flooding!
[04:03] <James> sry
[04:03] <MrMiste1> !flooding
[04:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:03] <ikonia> James: off topic and a channel flood
[04:03] <ikonia> not good
[04:03] <MrMiste1> !o4o
[04:03] <ubotu> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[04:03] <James> ikonia: Very sorry
[04:04] <r00tintheb0x> brb
[04:04] <gb__> oh well
[04:04] <aryah> so, teleporting is a contraversial topic :) why the -removing oneself from the planet' euphemism?
[04:05] <blizz> hi. any idea how i could bridge a managed mode wlan interface together with a normal ethernet interface so that the hosts on the second interface can access the internet over the wireless connection?
[04:05] <tuxben> tuxben test
[04:05] <por_fueg0> blizz: wouldn't that be controlled by the subnet ?
[04:05] <Hadron> anyone know if there is a utility to install the nvidia settings utility into the menus correctly?
[04:05] <mirak> is it possible to recover reiserfs deleted file ?
[04:06] <Regnus> Just installed 7.0.4 on a Dell Latitude D820.  I cant get my resolution over 1280x1024.  How do I get max resolution?
[04:06] <MenZa> Hadron: I believe you need to use the driver from NVIDIA
[04:06] <MenZa> Hadron: from nvidia.com
[04:06] <MenZa> !resolution | Regnus
[04:06] <ubotu> Regnus: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:06] <por_fueg0> Regnus, what video card do you have ?
[04:06] <Hadron> MenZa: I do. On Feisty and there is no utility on the system menu.
[04:06] <r00tintheb0x> figured it out, i wasn't going high enough
[04:06] <tikka> I have a usb, serial converter and when i connect it dmesg says that its connected then disconnected.. anyone able to assist?
[04:06] <r00tintheb0x> i needed 1280x1024
[04:06] <r00tintheb0x> =)
[04:06] <Regnus> I have the Nvidia quadro FX 120M
[04:06] <blizz> por_fueg0: it doesn't really work at the moment, i even lose the working wlan connection as soon as i bridge it
[04:06] <tikka> [ 4457.152284]  usb 1-4: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by ftdi_sio while 'brltty' sets config #1
[04:07] <aryah> perhaps using binary drivers?
[04:07] <shawn34> jscal doesn't save my calibration settings after reboot, how can I prevent this?
[04:07] <MenZa> Hadron: You installed the one from nvidia.com then
[04:07] <por_fueg0> blizz, for the 2 computers to see each other, they're going to have to be on the subnet. that's controlled by the router
[04:08] <Hadron> MenZa: aha I see. No I used the new "restricted driver" settings which supposedly are the nvidia ones.
[04:08] <blizz> por_fueg0: yes, they're on the same subnet already. but only one box is connected to the router via wireless
[04:08] <blizz> the second box is connected to the wireless box, so it would be something like a forwarding access point
[04:08] <Hadron> MenZa: I am loath to fiddle with them now they are working.
[04:08] <MenZa> Hadron: That is correct, but only the drivers from nvidia.com install the configuration utility in the menu
[04:08] <Hadron> MenZa: that sucks.  I'm so going with an nvidia card from now on.
[04:09] <MenZa> Hadron: you can create a menu item for it
[04:09] <timmyw29> ATI isn't worth the hassle.
[04:09] <Hadron> MenZa: ok. lets do that.
[04:09] <r00tintheb0x> man that SO much better
[04:09] <MenZa> right, Hadron
[04:09] <MenZa> Right click the application menu and choose "Edit menus"
[04:10] <Hadron> k
[04:10] <MenZa> (give me... one second)
[04:10] <Tomatix> How can I restore a deleted file?
[04:10] <MenZa> Tomatix: go to the system tools menu item and add a new item
[04:11] <Tomatix> uhh
[04:11] <MenZa> Hadron: for the icon, choose /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/nvidia-settings.png if it exists
[04:11] <wols_> Tomatix: non ext3, you basically can't
[04:11] <MenZa> er
[04:11] <MenZa> Tomatix, that was meant for Hadron
[04:11] <MenZa> ;)
[04:11] <MenZa> Hadron: see above
[04:11] <dooglus> Tomatix: is it in the recycle bin?
[04:11] <Tomatix> wols_, I am using Ext3
[04:11] <Tomatix> no it isn't
[04:11] <wols_> Tomatix: uthen undelete is not possible
[04:12] <Tomatix> okay
[04:12] <dooglus> Tomatix: then undelete can be expensive
[04:12] <Tomatix> it isn't that important
[04:12] <wols_> Tomatix: backups
[04:12] <MenZa> Hadron: Are you following so far?
[04:13] <j1tters> anyone know if there is a window blind effect anywhere in gnome?
[04:13] <Kjellviz> whats the best way to go about getting "video calls" on ubuntu ?
[04:13] <Ar-Pharazon> Hi everyone, can someone answer a quick question about partitions please?
[04:13] <Hadron> no probs. Its ok, I just did the locate for nvidia-settings. Problem is that my new menu items are not sticking for some reason.
[04:13] <Kjellviz> meaning i can show my windows using parents video from my webcam
[04:14] <kmag> Ar-Pharazon: just ask, don't ask to ask
[04:14] <MenZa> Hadron: not sticking?
[04:15] <macpo3> I've managed to disable the shutdown, suspend and restart options using "system->administration->login window", but the hibernate option still shows, does anyone know where I can disable hibernate?
[04:15] <Hadron> MenZa: dont apepar for some reason in the menu editor after I confirm closure of the new menu-item dialog. This might be linked to a bug in gnome wher eI cant change the date and time either from the clock applet.
[04:15] <MenZa> Hadron: huh O.o
[04:15] <kmag> Ar-Pharazon: what's your partition question?
[04:15] <Ar-Pharazon> Ok , so I'm installing Kubuntu, I need a partition. It should be Logical and Ext3, correct?
[04:15] <Hadron> MenZa: thanks for your time, but its ok. Maybe I just try to install the nvidia drivers anyway.
[04:16] <aryah> it doesnt have to be logical
[04:16] <Hadron> I'm familiar with comamnd line and X to fix it if it screws up.
[04:16] <Ar-Pharazon> Should it be?
[04:16] <MenZa> Hadron: hmm, it sounds odd if you can't create a launcher
[04:16] <aryah> depends. if youve allready got a lot of primary partitions, yes
[04:16] <tommy> i installed my wireless(DWL-510, with ndiswrapper), but its not working propperly. It hangs on a random basis. But whenever im transiffering any larger file, i lose connection when i have transiffered about 20MB.
[04:17] <Ar-Pharazon> I have 2 windows partitions so I guess that's a yes?
[04:17] <aryah> i think so
[04:17] <kmag> Ar-Parazon: I like to use 3 partitions, (ext2 for /boot, ext3 for /, and ext3 for /var)
[04:17] <aryah> but a swap as a primary partition would be nice
[04:17] <Ar-Pharazon> I'm not sure I quite follow.
[04:18] <Ar-Pharazon> And what's the difference between logical and primary, anyway?
[04:18] <kmag> Ar-Pharazon: DOS partitions (the system usually used on x86 disks) are recursive
[04:18] <aryah> its technical. the partition table has an index of partition, the primary partitions are on the first 'page' of this index. the last entry is the pointer to the next pages. those on the first page are called primary, those on other are logical
[04:18] <blizz> asdasdasdsa
[04:19] <kmag> Ar-Pharazon: you can only have 4 primary partitions
[04:19] <bbrazil> Ar-Pharazon: you can only boot from primary. logical are inside primary or logical
[04:19] <frank_> does anyone know a program that visualizes mouse clicks with a red circle or something?
[04:19] <bbrazil> Ar-Pharazon: you can only have 4 partitions in a drive/logical/primary
[04:19] <aryah> though grub can boot from anywhere
[04:19] <kmag> Ar-Pharazon: the logical partitions are actually sub-partitions of one of the primary partitions
[04:19] <frank_> I'm using pyvnc2swf to make videos of my desktop but vnc does not send inforamtion when where a mouse is being clicked
[04:19] <blizz> whoops, sorry for the spam
[04:19] <frank_> as said in the manpage of pyvnc2swf i should use a addiational tool to visualize mouseclicks
[04:19] <marc> ola
[04:19] <gcosmin> Failed to find entry for user root.
[04:19] <gcosmin> Failed to modify password entry for user root
[04:20] <frank_> does anyone have a porogram name for me?
[04:20] <Kjellviz> whats the best way to go about getting "video calls" on ubuntu ?
[04:20] <marc> alguien espaol?
[04:20] <Ar-Pharazon> I see.
[04:20] <gcosmin> can some one help me?
[04:20] <erUSUL> !es | marc
[04:20] <ubotu> marc: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:20] <Ericc> gutten morgen
[04:20] <erUSUL> Kjellviz: ekiga, skype
[04:20] <marc> porke?
[04:20] <Ar-Pharazon> So what's the point of having them in the first place?
[04:21] <Kjellviz> erUSUL: thought skype didnt support video calls in linux?
[04:21] <erUSUL> Kjellviz: my bad confused it with ip phone calls
[04:22] <Kjellviz> aha :P
[04:22] <erUSUL> Kjellviz: ekiga can do video calls though
[04:22] <kmag> Ar-Pharazon: partitions give you independence between sets of data.  I put /var in its own partition so that all of the data churn in /var doesn't adversely affect other partitions (fragmentation, running out of space, etc.)
[04:22] <Kjellviz> but, im not locked to using the same app for video as calls, i could put up a webcam stream maybe?
[04:22] <kmag> Ar-Pharazon: I also like to have an encrypted home partition
[04:23] <Kjellviz> erUSUL: ok, im gonna check it out, but do you know if it can place calls to windows comps ?
[04:23] <Ar-Pharazon> What's in /var?
[04:23] <erUSUL> Kjellviz: it uses standar protocols afaik
[04:24] <Kjellviz> i see theres a windows version on their website
[04:24] <erUSUL> Ar-Pharazon: VARiable data ;P
[04:25] <Ar-Pharazon> So it's user created stuff.
[04:25] <callidusfox> I asked this question yesterday and do not know if there was a response as I closed the computer without looking. Anyway.
[04:25] <stifler> hi :)
[04:26] <gabe> does anyone have an 8800 here?
[04:26] <MrMiste1> !ask
[04:26] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:26] <d2812> Is there anyway to remove the password for the Keyring Manager? I'd like to have my laptop to be able to connect to the wireless network before I have signed in, i.e. if i turn it on, then leave it for 5 mins to make a coffee.
[04:26] <aMMuNix> where can I set my refresh rate? in the screen resolution window I can only choose 50 57 and 58, which seems weird, my screen usually supports 60 and 75...
[04:26] <gabe> what?
[04:27] <callidusfox> Does Exaile database suck or is it me doing something wrong? I have lost all my music ratings, because I moved my Music folder from one hard drive to another. When I rescanned the Music folder, the only music that showed up was the one I rated, and all with 1 star rating, the rest of the music collection was not there.   SO Does Exaile suck? I cannot move my mu
[04:27] <callidusfox> sic directory? It has to be permanent ?
[04:27] <stifler> doen anyone know if the game:pirates of the caribbean works under ubuntu?i want to buy it
[04:27] <callidusfox> sorry worng channel
[04:27] <Ar-Pharazon> um, one more thing, is it a good idea to make my swap partition primary if I have two windows primaries?
[04:28] <aMMuNix> stifler that game sucks but sorry I have no idea :P
[04:28] <gabe> How do I set up 3d acceleration with my 8800 GTS?
[04:28] <stifler> have you played it?
[04:28] <aMMuNix> yes on windows
[04:28] <mirak> hi
[04:28] <silvertip257> I'm looking at installing k/x/ubuntu on a USB drive, but I'm not sure how I should configure it for read/write access ... so that it doesnt eat the memory cells a live in an hour
[04:28] <callidusfox> stifler: look into wine databse
[04:28] <mirak> hdparm doesnt work on serial ata drives ?
[04:28] <Kjellviz> erUSUL: ok, i think it'll be easier (for my parents) if i set up a stream, you know any programs/sites that work with linux ?
[04:28] <nuu> Ar-Pharazon, as long as you don't have more than 4 primary partitions on the same disk, it doesn't matter
[04:28] <stifler> it's a new game, it's not yet listed
[04:28] <Ar-Pharazon> Oh ok then.
[04:29] <aMMuNix> stifler I'd say it isn't worth paying for
[04:29] <Ar-Pharazon> Thanks for the help.
[04:29] <callidusfox> stifler: then you be the first one
[04:29] <aMMuNix> but if you really want to..
[04:29] <nuu> np
[04:29] <ferronica> how to open .icon in ubuntu 7.04
[04:29] <ferronica> where .icon located
[04:29] <aMMuNix> where can I set my refresh rate? in the screen resolution window I can only choose 50 57 and 58, which seems weird, my screen usually supports 60 and 75...
[04:29] <stifler> aMMuNix: have you played the:at world ends?
[04:29] <aMMuNix> yes stifler
[04:30] <aMMuNix> haven't finished, plot might be good, but gameplay seemed lame imo
[04:30] <stifler> oh, i thouth it was a fantastic game..but never played :P
[04:30] <ferronica> how to open .icon directory in ubuntu 7.04
[04:30] <gabe> How do I set up my 8800 GTS for 3D acceleration??
[04:30] <stifler> ....installing drivers?
[04:31] <gabe> no, you cant use the regular nvidia drivers because its too new and direct x 10
[04:31] <MrMiste1> !drivers
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <MrMiste1> !nvidia
[04:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:31] <gabe> when I go to that site there is a "python error"
[04:32] <stifler> gabe:  how can the nvidia drivers on the nvidia website do not work?i think it's impossibile
[04:32] <MrMiste1> stifler: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:32] <gabe> 7.04
[04:32] <stifler> feisty
[04:32] <gabe> oh sorry
[04:33] <MrMiste1> sorry
[04:33] <MrMiste1> feisty has this new restriceted binary hoojamaklunk doesn't it?
[04:33] <gabe> well, when I go to the nvidia site and download the drivers as a .run thats fine, but then it says to type "sh <driver name>" but it doesnt do anything
[04:33] <Pelo> anyone know why I have so many ALARMS ? and what I can do to get rid of them ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22697/
[04:33] <MrMiste1> try using envy
[04:34] <MrMiste1> "sudo apt-get install envy"
[04:34] <MrMiste1> (i think you might need to add a repo) i'll just check
[04:34] <gabe> do I have to go to text mode if I do sh <driver name>?
[04:34] <fargiolas> anyone using or knowing something about edubuntu^
[04:34] <fargiolas> ?
[04:34] <dabide> hi, i'm using ubuntu edgy server, as a print and file server, but i would like to use it as an "emergancy internet terminal", is it possible to install a lightwight desktop envirement,which i can start from the terminal when i need it? - which desktop enviroment should i install? (i'm very new to linux) thx for advice
[04:34] <Pelo> fargiolas,  try in #edubuntu
[04:35] <Kjellviz> can i install Noatun on a gnome desktop ?
[04:35] <MrMiste1> dabide: i recommend fluxbox "sudo apt-get install fluxbox"
[04:35] <Penguinista> dabide:  You can install any of them.  Do a quick google search to find one that you like and install with apt.
[04:35] <Pelo> dabide,  if you want light,  fluxbox seems popular
[04:35] <MrMiste1> good advice, penguinista
[04:35] <Penguinista> Excellent suggestion, MrMistel.
[04:35] <Kjellviz> or put simpler, can i install and use programs written for KDE even if im running Gnome ?
[04:35] <dabide> kk ill try fluxbox, thx
[04:35] <Lamego> Kjellviz, yes
[04:35] <Pelo> dabide, xcfe is also light,  and in the reps ,just type    sudo apt-get intall xubuntu-desktop
[04:36] <MrMiste1> Kjellviz: if you have qt libraries installed, synaptic should handle it.
[04:36] <faileas> i'm setting up a ubuntu 7.04 system on a laptop, just wanted suggestions on what FS to use, EXT3 or XFS
[04:36] <MrMiste1> ext3
[04:36] <Pelo> Kjellviz,  yes you can , instll it from synaptic and the appropriate dependencies will be installed as well
[04:36] <EmuAGR> Hola a tod@s
[04:36] <Pelo> faileas, ext3 is the current ubuntu standard
[04:36] <phazeman> is there any problem with reiserFS on ubuntu or it's just people won't use it at all anymore ? i can see people install only with EXT3 mostly.
[04:36] <Kjellviz> MrMiste1: ok thanks, any tips on what mp3 player to use? theres like 15 of them on ubuntu repo =P
[04:36] <linos> can someone help me with .bashrc file ubuntu 6.10 edgy eft
[04:37] <gabe> Is there anything else that I can try for my 8800 GTS?
[04:37] <faileas> phazeman: personal bad experience with reiser
[04:37] <vegar_> Hi, I'm trying to play back some video files on an smb share from an ubuntu machine. It seems like nautilus doesn't mount the smb network like for example fusesmb and VLC can't open smb:// urls
[04:37] <phazeman> faileas: reiser is much efficient then ext3
[04:37] <timmyw29> wow
[04:37] <timmyw29> just wow
[04:37] <MrMiste1> KJellviz: sure, I think totem is installed by default, it's very good, try and play an mp3 and you should download the right codecs for it
[04:37] <MrMiste1> (in feisty)
[04:37] <timmyw29> i've got 1280x1024 reso!
[04:37] <timmyw29> <3
[04:37] <phazeman> linos: you need anything specific ?
[04:37] <vegar_> they SMB support in Totem is very bad.. videos play very choppy on smb shares
[04:37] <MrMiste1> sweet
[04:37] <silvertip257> k/x/ubuntu USB install help/tips
[04:37] <vegar_> they = the
[04:38] <MrMiste1> i know, i'm using mplayer for videos
[04:38] <Kjellviz> MrMiste1: ye totem is indeed installed, dint like the gui though =\
[04:38] <faileas> phazeman: i had it die on me twice. i don't trust it
[04:38] <Pelo> !install | silvertip257
[04:38] <ubotu> silvertip257: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[04:38] <MrMiste1> it also handles everything, just like it's friend VLC
[04:38] <jet_> I installed ubuntu 7.04 on a laptop with a rt2500 wireless card works good but when i change it to roaming it wont connect ? how can i fix this ?
[04:38] <phazeman> faileas: WOW ! i've been running it for years... nothing ever happend. thats weird...
[04:38] <Kjellviz> MrMiste1: ohh forget that, that was rhytmbox i was testing lol
[04:38] <Mikeh> Hi all, I am using aMSN for webcams, but I would like to use Kopete instead, as aMSN is a bit hard to deal with.
[04:38] <MrMiste1> ah. lol
[04:38] <silvertip257> ty Pelo =)
[04:38] <sjapbnc5> Guys i have kubuntu
[04:38] <Rett> Hi all who may help me with compilling? pls pm
[04:38] <MrMiste1> Kopete should handle your webcam fine on the msn protocol
[04:38] <sjapbnc5> if i install XFCE
[04:38] <sjapbnc5> will it broke?
[04:38] <Pelo> sjapbnc5,  #kubuntu
[04:39] <Lamego> Rett, as on the channel please
[04:39] <Mikeh> My problem is even though Kopete rcognizes the webcam, none of the invites ever process
[04:39] <linos> phazeman:  how come when I type a command like "gedit" in the shell, the program opens, but there is no alias setup in my .bashrc file
[04:39] <faileas> ....
[04:39] <faileas> ACK
[04:39] <MrMiste1> no, should be fine, just choose your session at login | sjapbnc5
[04:39] <Pelo> sjapbnc5,  you'll jus thave both desktop environement,s  you can select which one you want freom the login screen
[04:39] <faileas> deleted the wron partition
[04:39] <d2812> Is there anyway to remove the password for the Keyring Manager? I'd like to have my laptop to be able to connect to the wireless network before I have signed in, i.e. if i turn it on, then leave it for 5 mins to make a coffee.
[04:39] <Lamego> linlin, because gedit is a program on your path, you don't need aliases for that
[04:39] <phazeman> faileas: whats really buggering me ist that i can't choose reiserfs from the live cd install.. i just can't understand why they did't include it there when the text based installer does allow you to install on reiser
[04:40] <faileas> erm
[04:40] <faileas> phazeman: its there on mine
[04:40] <MrMiste1> timmyw29, did you get it to go full-res?
[04:40] <omha> phazeman, you can install with reiser on live
[04:40] <phazeman> linos: it's because the command you are typing is a program, that is located under one of the directories that is in the PATH
[04:40] <omha> i did it
[04:40] <timmyw29> i got it to go the res that i'd used on windows for who knows how long
[04:40] <phazeman> omha: just tried today. it's not there
[04:40] <timmyw29> it's sweet now
[04:40] <MrMiste1> sweet
[04:40] <fastlikeacat> i installed a external hd, a western digital 250gig, on my computer only to realize it was a FAT32 format ie no files bigger than 4gigs so i took it to my friends house to try and convert it to NTFS as it already had 100gigs on it so we couldn't convert it so i just told him to format it and now i brought it back and don't have permission to write/create on it and when i try to set permissions it says this is a read only de
[04:41] <fastlikeacat> vice
[04:41] <Rett> ok I use ubuntu server & I wont compil drivers for wifi adaprot.. I get this error: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-server/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[04:41] <linos> phazeman:  thank you
[04:41] <timmyw29> lol i screwed up the refresh rates in the xorg configure at one point before and had to use recovery mode to fix it >_>
[04:41] <fargiolas> Pelo: i've asked at edubuntu with no answer
[04:41] <timmyw29> redo the xorg configure tool thing
[04:41] <omha> phazeman, its in my egdy and feisty cd's
[04:41] <phazeman> linos: echo $PATH will show you the full path
[04:41] <`3DGuy> hello
[04:41] <sjapbnc5> What theme do you guys recommend
[04:41] <phazeman> omha: i'm speaking about feisty. i didn't see it there today
[04:41] <sjapbnc5> on kde
[04:41] <`3DGuy> this is my first time installing ubuntu
[04:41] <`3DGuy> and i have a problem
[04:42] <faileas> how big a swap for 1 gb ram?
[04:42] <Mikeh> Hi all, I am using aMSN for webcams, but I would like to use Kopete instead, as aMSN is a bit hard to deal with. My problem is even though Kopete rcognizes the webcam, none of the invites ever process.
[04:42] <Sonderblade> faileas: 0
[04:42] <faileas> Sonderblade: no need for it?
[04:42] <linos> phazeman:  great, thank U
[04:42] <phazeman> linos: YW
[04:43] <`3DGuy> Whenever I boot the cd and choose option 1. Start or Install Ubuntu, the ubuntu logo then shows, then after a few mins of loading, it goes to a blank screen as if it was loading, but nothing happens
[04:43] <Sonderblade> faileas: no need
[04:43] <faileas> thanks
[04:43] <Mikeh> faileas, at that size you *shouldn't* need swap. But a good rule of thumb if you want one is the same size as your RAM
[04:45] <tinh> Mikeh, swap should be twice as the RAM size?
[04:46] <faileas> no way i'm getting a gig of swap for a 10 gig partition ;p
[04:46] <phazeman> Mikeh: not when you have a gig of RAM... when you have 256 Mb - yeah.. twice a ram
[04:46] <MikeS__> HELP
[04:46] <`3DGuy> Whenever I boot the cd and choose option 1. Start or Install Ubuntu, the ubuntu logo then shows, then after a few mins of loading, it goes to a blank screen as if it was loading, but nothing happens <-- does anyone experience this?
[04:46] <rachyandco> Hi any keyring experts here?
[04:46] <Mikeh> tinh, there are many opinions but it is all transitory
[04:46] <MikeS__> my drives are coming out Sd vs. Hd
[04:46] <MikeS__> grub wont boot
[04:47] <MikeS__> error 17!
[04:47] <tinh> Mikeh, I read it somewhere on the net
[04:47] <Mikeh> famous last words tinh ;)
[04:47] <Spyrock> quel server :o
[04:47] <rachyandco> why do we always have to give another password when using wep in wifi with network manager
[04:47] <tinh> Mikeh, I have 2GB RAM, should i have 4GB swap?
[04:47] <Mikeh> no
[04:47] <deviantintegral> I'd just like to confirm that if I use mdadm --grow on a raid5 set, that lvm can then use the additional space?
[04:47] <Mikeh> that's far more than you need
[04:47] <Spyrock> pas petit le server :p:p:p:p
[04:48] <tinh> I don't think I need 4GB swap ;)
[04:48] <Sonderblade> if you have that much ram you don't need any swap at all
[04:48] <Mikeh> I have two gigs as well, I set a 2gig swap, and so far the only time I've used ANY of it was while buring DVDs
[04:48] <faileas> well
[04:48] <ubuntu> spanish??
[04:48] <faileas> this is my test system
[04:48] <faileas> she runs XP, vista and ubuntu
[04:48] <faileas> maybe solaris, i haven't decided ;p
[04:49] <Sonderblade> if a program starts swapping it is probably because of a memleak and you would be better off with the kernel killing the process
[04:49] <phazeman> faileas: your test system really should feel miserable... like a salad :)
[04:49] <MikeS__> Any reason my Xbuntu sees my drives as SCSI when they are IDE?
[04:49] <faileas> phazeman: its shitty
[04:49] <phazeman> faileas: LOL :)
[04:50] <`3DGuy> hmm nevermind seems like nobody can help me here
[04:50] <faileas> its a packard bell, hour and half battery life. screws come loose randomly, gets scratched despite the fact its sitting at home most of the time
[04:50] <Heag> Gwar - Linux Penguin Attack.mp3
[04:50] <phazeman> Mikeh: if they are STATA, they probably would be seen as sdX, but IDE.... - may be some issue with the CDRW ?
[04:50] <Lhademmor> Hello please help: I want to start firefox, but it says it's already running...  This behaviour of requiring all applications to implement the smb protocol to open files over the network is absolutely ludicrous
[04:51] <Kjellviz> someone please tip me about a mp3 player that has a browsable media library like the newest windows media player, itunes, and latest winamp
[04:51] <Kjellviz> for linux :P
[04:52] <Lhademmor> "firefox: no process killed"...?
[04:52] <phazeman> Kjellviz: amarok ?
[04:52] <lolman> Lhademmor: do the same for firefox-bin
[04:52] <phazeman> Lhademmor: ps -ef | grep mozilla
[04:52] <phazeman> ahh.. firefox-bin... my mistake :)
[04:52] <MikeS__> phase: if  you are talking ot me, the are in fact IDE NOT scsi, or sta
[04:52] <Kjellviz> phazeman: ok ill check that one out =)
[04:52] <Nom-> Evening :)  Can anyone suggest a nice front-end for vpnc/pptp ?  I'd like an easier way to manage vpn connections
[04:53] <faileas> hmm
[04:53] <Lhademmor> You mean "killall firefox-bin; firefox-bin;" ?
[04:53] <vegar__> Nom: network manager plugin
[04:53] <phazeman> Mikeh: yeah, i was... weird. what do you see about it in the dmesg ?
[04:53] <faileas> dosen't ubuntu give you a choice of desktop environments  when you install from livecd? o0
[04:53] <lolman> Lhademmor: you don't need the end bit, just killall firefox-bin
[04:53] <phazeman> Lhademmor: killall firefox-bin, then try to run mozilla firefox from the menu
[04:53] <lolman> Then you can start firefox normally :)
[04:54] <TehRealNexGe1> faileas; no
[04:54] <faileas> bleh
[04:54] <Lhademmor> Working! :)
[04:54] <faileas> i didn't need a wired connection then
[04:54] <ompaul> !envy
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <Nom-> vegar__: hmm, that does seem to be installed, but i don't see any options?
[04:54] <lolman> !info envy
[04:54] <ubotu> Package envy does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:54] <MikeS__> phast: i'm mikeS not mikeH...  and I've been reading about error 17 in grub for hours.... and here is what i've found.
[04:55] <Nom-> vegar__: Ah, scratch that, just found the plugins for it
[04:55] <mpupu> where do I configure ubuntu to stay in the same directory when I exit mc?
[04:55] <Kjellviz> phazeman: ye that seems more like it :)
[04:55] <linos> phazeman:  quick question about $PATH.  what file or is it the OS that initailizes that uses $PATH
[04:55] <MikeS__> i go into grub, try root (hd1,0) it says: no drive
[04:55] <Pepsi> Hey guys
[04:56] <MikeS__> I try root (sd1,0) it says error parsing
[04:56] <shiryu> please someone can tell me how to print in a lexmark? i send a archive to be print but nothing happens
[04:56] <UberPsyX> hi guys, i have a wireless internet connection running with a belkin wireless desktop card, it has a bcm4318 chipset and im only getting an 82% connection rating. i have had it running at a 100% before but it dropped when (for reasons i will not go into) i reinstalled ubuntu it lost the 100% connection. any ideas on how to get it working better?
[04:56] <Pepsi> I seem to be having a problem with my wireless usb adapter and anm I noob in linux
[04:56] <shiryu> please someone can tell me how to print in a lexmark? i send a archive to be print but nothing happens
[04:56] <phazeman> linos: it's the shell that uses path and knows to search programs that you are trying to run
[04:56] <shiryu> please someone can tell me how to print in a lexmark? i send a archive to be print but nothing happens
[04:56] <MikeS__> grub root cannot recognize anything it seems
[04:57] <Pepsi> I seem to be having a problem with my wireless usb adapter and anm I noob in linux
[04:57] <shiryu> please someone can tell me how to print in a lexmark? i send a archive to be print but nothing happens
[04:57] <shiryu> please im desesperate
[04:57] <phazeman> MikeS__: thats odd. i was gonna tell you to check your /etc/fstab but grub is prior to that
[04:57] <Pepsi> lol
[04:57] <shiryu> please someone can tell me how to print in a lexmark? i send a archive to be print but nothing happens
[04:57] <mx-zoom> shiryu: stfu
[04:57] <Pepsi> Shiryu stop spamming
[04:57] <shiryu> mx-zoom what?
[04:58] <Pepsi> He said
[04:58] <Pepsi> Shut the fuck up
[04:58] <faileas> shiryu: its polite to ask once than wait. if someone knows, they will pipe up
[04:58] <zoom> lol
[04:58] <MikeS__> phase: grub wont even boot the XP drive, I believe the error is in the detection of Sd vs. Hd
[04:58] <AdministratorX> shiryu: What Lexmark printer do you have?
[04:58] <phazeman> MikeS__: did you do something with your HD's lately ? what could cause the problem to appear ?
[04:58] <shiryu> x2350
[04:58] <Nom-> vegar__: I was right the first time, can't see anything in (what i assume) is the right place  ... System => Administration => Network ?
[04:59] <Pepsi> Im anxious to use linux but my belkin54g usb isn't working any ideas?
[04:59] <phazeman> MikeS__: did you touch cables ? switch anything ?
[04:59] <AdministratorX> Have you downloaded the linux drivers from Lexmark?
[04:59] <shiryu> no where i download it?
[04:59] <AdministratorX> If so have you installed them?
[04:59] <MikeS__> phase: I am first intall on this computer. I've installed ubuntu on 3 other computers, this is my first install of xbuntu, I recentnly installed the additional HD
[04:59] <daurn> hi all
[04:59] <AdministratorX> Lexmark.com
[05:00] <shiryu> ok thanks
[05:00] <daurn> AFAIK, I need to apply an "ATA passthrough" patch
[05:00] <daurn> anyone know about this?
[05:00] <phazeman> MikeS__: and since you installed the additional HD yo uahve that problem ?
[05:00] <AdministratorX> look for Support / Drivers
[05:00] <MikeS__> phase : I'm an electrical engineer, so i'm confident the drives are installed correctly
[05:00] <Pepsi> Anyone have a wireless usb or card?
[05:00] <stelki> Is there any site to check out supported/unsupported hardware? I'm having certain issues with a P5N32-SLI motherboard.
[05:00] <ompaul> !language | Pepsi
[05:00] <ubotu> Pepsi: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:00] <Pepsi> Sorry?
[05:00] <Pepsi> !language
[05:00] <ompaul> about two minutes ago
[05:00] <Pepsi> Oh okay.
[05:00] <AdministratorX> That how I installed my Lexmark c522n
[05:01] <Pepsi> sorry
[05:01] <phazeman> MikeS__: you installed ubuntu, everything was just fine and then you installed a new HD and it won't start up now ?
[05:01] <MikeS__> phaseman: gpartition did not work, so I used UBCD to partition and format the new drive
[05:01] <Slart> stelki: there are sites that list compatible stuff and sites that list incompatible stuff.. I don't know the url's by heart.. google might be useful
[05:01] <user_> cristyiiii
[05:01] <daurn> ok... so... someone: I need to remove an ATA password from a sata drive on my laptop
[05:01] <luigi> hola
[05:01] <phazeman> MikeS__: are you sure you partitioned the correct drive ?
[05:01] <ompaul> !it | luigi
[05:02] <ubotu> luigi: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:02] <daurn> I've tried: sudo hdparm --security-unlock MYHDDPASSWORD /dev/sda
[05:02] <Slart> stelki: here's one http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/
[05:02] <MikeS__> phaseman: no, this particular computer has never had ubuntu on it  before, its an older computer, and xubuntu things the drives are scsi, hence it lables them sda and sdb
[05:02] <luigi> alguien me dice como configurar correo y amule?
[05:02] <daurn> but I get:
[05:02] <stelki> Slart: Thanks, appreciate it
[05:02] <daurn> Problem issuing security command: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[05:02] <daurn> Error: 25
[05:02] <ompaul> !es | luigi
[05:02] <ubotu> luigi: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:02] <daurn> anyone able to help?
[05:02] <MikeS__> phaseman: yes, correct drive, it shows ext3 and swap correctly
[05:02] <AdministratorX> No Problem
[05:02] <nub19> i have no "soundmixer" in my fluxbox :s
[05:02] <Slart> stelki: here's another http://www.linux-drivers.org/
[05:02] <luigi> ok
[05:03] <MikeS__> phaseman: maybe I will just remove grub and boot via bios...
[05:03] <phazeman> MikeS__: i just don't understand you. did you just install an xubuntu on a clean drive (when wiped it out with some tool) and it won't startup on you and never did startup ?
[05:03] <nub19> so i how can pump up the volume?
[05:03] <shiryu> administratorx i find the driver but it only work in windows
[05:03] <stelki> Slart: sweet.
[05:03] <daurn> is it possible to use hdparm on a sata device?
[05:03] <AdministratorX> what that model number again?
[05:03] <daurn> hdparm -I works...
[05:03] <phazeman> MikeS__: if you type "phaz" and press tab your IRC client will complete my nickname correctly ;-)
[05:04] <phazeman> MikeS__: It's _phazeman_
[05:04] <shiryu> x2350
[05:04] <MikeS__> phaseman: it's an older drive, I installed by removing partition and let xubuntu partition, ok, will do phas tab
[05:04] <phazeman> otherwise i can't see you type to me..
[05:04] <AdministratorX> hold a sec, let me check
[05:04] <phazeman> MikeS__: phaZ
[05:04] <MikeS__> phazeman: OHHH
[05:04] <phazeman> ;-)
[05:04] <nub19> i have no "soundmixer" in my fluxbox :s can i install this?
[05:04] <phazeman> lol
[05:04] <daurn> anyone listening to me?
[05:04] <dooglus> daurn: I'm not
[05:04] <tyro> :D
[05:05] <nub19> i have no "soundmixer" in my fluxbox :s how can i make the sound go higher?
[05:05] <pjl3dm> is there anyway to convert the Live CD ubuntu into alternate cd (text based installer)
[05:05] <tyro> dunno
[05:05] <phazeman> MikeS__: do yo uhave a dualboot on that drive or only ubuntu/xubuntu ?
[05:05] <vlitzer> nub19: start a console and type alsamixer
[05:05] <MikeS__> phazeman: wow, this is great! ok, sorry, i'm new to this irc.
[05:05] <phazeman> MikeS__: hehe
[05:05] <cr3> how to make cpufreq to show more frequencies to choose? it shows only 2.8 Ghz and 2.4Ghz
[05:05] <daurn> dooglus: then how did you see my msg to reply to? ;)
[05:05] <Slart> daurn: as far as I know hdparm only works on pATA disks.. not SATA
[05:06] <Slart> daurn: try with sdparm instead.. it's designed for scsi disks
[05:06] <daurnimator> Slart: hdparm -I works though
[05:06] <daurnimator> oh
[05:06] <MikeS__> phazeman: I have two drives, the original XP and the new (used but correctly partitioned) drive, installed xbuntu on the new drive.
[05:06] <phazeman> MikeS__: ok, when you installed, where did yo utell it to install the GRUB ?
[05:06] <Slart> daurnimator: yes.. some stuff works.. like timings etc.. but most of the stuff doesn't
[05:06] <cr3> how to make cpufreq to show more frequencies to choose? it shows only 2.8 Ghz and 2.4Ghz
[05:07] <daurn> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install sdparm
[05:07] <daurn> Package sdparm is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:07] <daurn> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:07] <daurn> is only available from another source
[05:07] <MikeS__> phazeman: that might be the problem, I went to advanced then said to install on sd1 vs. the default of sd0
[05:07] <daurn> slart: where do I get the thing? :P
[05:07] <Slart> daurn: google it.. it's out there.. I dl'ed and compiled it yesterday for another reason
[05:08] <AdministratorX> Looks like there is no Linux driver for you system, do you see a close match?
[05:08] <phazeman> MikeS__: looks like it. i think you have to reinstall GRUB, but you better ask some other users since the last time i ussed linux was about a year ago
[05:08] <cr3> how to make cpufreq to show more frequencies to choose? it shows only 2.8 Ghz and 2.4Ghz
[05:08] <MikeS__> phazeman: I was thinking the sd1 issue might be a problem, but grub comes up, I went to the file and it seems there are references to Hd0 and Hd1
[05:08] <phazeman> cr3: can't you just google ? geees... you asked 4 times already and i've found the howto in 1 second on google...
[05:08] <phazeman> cr3: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/CPUFreq
[05:08] <shiryu> close match? sorry but english is not my native language what is that administratorx
[05:09] <daurn> ok, I've got it
[05:09] <Slart> cr3: you might not be able to.. I don't think cpus can scale frequencies as they wish.. there are some steps available.. I only have 3 diff frequencies
[05:09] <phazeman> MikeS__: sd1 means it's sata or scsi...
[05:09] <MikeS__> phazeman:there are also references to Sd0 and Sd1
[05:09] <gabe_> How do I exit X server?
[05:09] <phazeman> when you installed on sd1 - this is the odd thing if you tell me that you have only ide
[05:09] <MikeS__> phazeman: yes, I understand the Hd vs Sd
[05:09] <faileas> cntrl alt backspace i think
[05:09] <daurnimator> Slart/ anyone: how can I remove a hdd password with sdparm
[05:10] <phazeman> gabe_: you want to restart or go to different runlevel ?
[05:10] <MikeS__> phazeman: think the issue is why xubuntu thinks my drives are Sd vs. Hd
[05:10] <phazeman> MikeS__: thats very odd....
[05:10] <AdministratorX> When you check under System > Adminitration > Printing, is there a model number close to your printer model number?
[05:10] <Slart> daurnimator: I have no idea.. I didn't even know you could have passwords on harddrives..
[05:10] <MikeS__> phazeman: it seems to confuse xubuntu. And I think the core of my problem is this confusion
[05:10] <phazeman> MikeS__: did you try installing the original ubuntu and not xubuntu ?
[05:11] <MikeS__> phazeman: I was thinhking of doing that... but will have to 'get' that version... which is about what I'm thinking will have to be done
[05:11] <shiryu> no administratorx
[05:11] <MikeS__> phazeman: I have had success with Ubuntu and this  is the fist attempt at install of Xubuntu
[05:12] <shiryu> but thanks i think i must go to windows to print this, thanks
[05:12] <MikeS__> phazeman: i WAS thinking the lower requirements of X would be better for this machine
[05:12] <cox377> hey all, does anyone user NCFTP?
[05:12] <nub19> @vlitzer alsamixer is the shiznick ;)
[05:12] <phazeman> MikeS__: you know that you always can isntall flux or kde or anything you want. it's easy with ubuntu
[05:12] <phazeman> MikeS__: but i always prefer to install the oroginal distro as a main base
[05:12] <faileas> yay KDE ;)
[05:12] <vlitzer> it is posible to install kubuntu from ubuntu just apt-get the kubuntu meta package?
[05:13] <JoeR> hey
[05:13] <vox754> !kubuntu
[05:13] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[05:13] <Myrtti> vlitzer: yes.
[05:13] <vlitzer> nice, thanks
[05:13] <JoeR> I got ubuntu loaded up anyone know about fixing wireless issues?
[05:13] <Myrtti> vlitzer: the metapackage being kubuntu-desktop
[05:13] <JoeR> Id donate 5$ :P for a solution
[05:13] <neopsyche> greetings
[05:13] <neopsyche> question .. does anyone know if vista runs on 32 bit chips?
[05:13] <faileas> yes
[05:13] <faileas> it does
[05:13] <zbrown> MikeS__: Ubuntu and Xubuntu have the same core, whether your drives are labeled sd* or hd* is irrelevant, both will do the same when setting up your system.
[05:13] <JoeR> yes it does
[05:13] <zbrown> neopsyche: yes they do
[05:14] <JoeR> Can anyoe help me?
[05:14] <jtole_> hey guys
[05:14] <MikeS__> phazeman: I will first try to remove grub and see if booting off the bios works. I'll lose the dual boot option... Yes, I was thinking that should be irrelevant... however..
[05:14] <zbrown> JoeR: what wireless card/
[05:14] <rick_> Hello, can someone please help me with external usb hard drive?
[05:14] <jtole_> real quick, is there a command I can run to tell if I have a package installed on my system?
[05:14] <rollerskatejamms> What's a good app for converting movie files to dvd format?
[05:14] <AdministratorX> You might want to try any base JetInk printer then, It does not look like there is a All In One driver that works for your printer under linux
[05:14] <JoeR> Its wireless USB adapter belink54g
[05:15] <neopsyche> hmm
[05:15] <neopsyche> wow thats cool
[05:15] <jtole_> rollerskatejamms, ffmpeg, mencoder
[05:15] <MikeS__> phazeman: I was researching this and someone said the error 7 was because ubuntu did not understand the correct drive paramethers
[05:15] <rollerskatejamms> jtole_, gui apps?
[05:15] <rick_> Hello, can someone please help me with external usb hard drive?
[05:15] <neopsyche> Im thinking of changing chip from turion 64 x 2 to a core duo t2300
[05:15] <jtole_> rollerskatejamms, don't know but ffmpeg is one of the best
[05:15] <MikeS__> phazeman: and hwen they put them in some file, it suddently started working...
[05:15] <neopsyche> then i will get an ati 1600 gfx
[05:15] <neopsyche> 128mb ram
[05:15] <neopsyche> onboard
[05:15] <JoeR> Any idea zbrown?
[05:15] <neopsyche> as opposed to geforce 7200 with 64 onboard
[05:15] <gabe> When installing the lastest nvidia drivers in text mode after shutting down X server, I get "no precompiled interface found to match your kernel"
[05:16] <MikeS__> phazeman: I cant seem to get to be able to edit the necessary file
[05:16] <zbrown> JoeR: yup, private message?
[05:16] <JoeR> Sure
[05:16] <rick_> Hello, can someone please help me with external usb hard drive?
[05:16] <rollerskatejamms> I'm going to try devede
[05:16] <Lilacor> I'd say roughly half of the questions on this channel are related to wireless.
[05:16] <MikeS__> phazeman: how can I get permission to edit? I think I need sudo edit
[05:16] <Lilacor> rick_: what seems to be the trouble?
[05:16] <faileas> hmm
[05:17] <rick_> When I plus it in and ntfs-3g is installed I get an unable to connect
[05:17] <MikeS__> phazeman: oh, I can install the edit, then go to terminal and start the edit pgrm with sudo edit
[05:17] <faileas> if i need root, i use sudo with the first user's password right?
[05:17] <rick_> Unclean shutdown
[05:17] <omha> faileas yes
[05:17] <zbrown> JoeR: Are you identified with the nickserver?
[05:17] <daurnimator> ANYONE know how to remove an ata password?
[05:18] <rick_> Do I need to scan the hard drive>?
[05:18] <Lilacor> rick_: then boot the box in windows, and shut the box down cleanly with the usb drive connected
[05:18] <wladimir> does anyone knows a good pdf reader for the terminal, which makes use of the framebuffer?
[05:18] <rick_> Can I not scan it with linux?
[05:18] <cox377>  and i run get -R XXX directory all it does it download the folder names and not the files with them, anyone got any ideas?
[05:18] <Lilacor> rick_: no
[05:18] <gabe> Any ideas on my "no precompiled interface found to match your kernel" error?
[05:18] <faileas> omha: thanks, used to distros with root, and windows so, wanted to check
[05:18] <Lilacor> rick_: boot it with windows and safely remove the device
[05:18] <rick_> Why not, what is restricting this operation?
[05:19] <wladimir> does anyone knows a good pdf reader for the terminal, which makes use of the framebuffer?
[05:19] <Lilacor> rick_: you yanked the HDD's usb cable without a "safe removal"
[05:19] <omha> faileas, you can also use sudo -i its the same as su but using user pw
[05:19] <JoeR> zbrown i need to register
[05:19] <JoeR> one sec
[05:19] <zbrown> JoeR: ok, thats what I was hoping
[05:19] <rick_> How do I do it safely in linux env?
[05:19] <Yorkshire> hello can anyone help me with a little problem please :D
[05:19] <Lilacor> rick_: mount... umount
[05:20] <silvertip257> what's up Yorkshire - ask =)
[05:20] <rick_> ok thanks Lilacor
[05:20] <daurn> :(
[05:20] <wladimir> does anyone knows a good pdf reader for the terminal, which makes use of the framebuffer?
[05:20] <faileas> omha: sudo will do, i'll just need to get used to it, swapping over from another distro so there's a little learning curve
[05:20] <Lilacor> rick_: with ntfs-3g.. ntfs-3g, umount
[05:20] <silvertip257> sorry no wladimir
[05:20] <wladimir> mhh, :
[05:20] <arthanix> are there any workaround for the devfs problem?
[05:20] <Yorkshire> Ive downloaded the drivers for my geforce 6 series but i can install because it says the xserver is running....
[05:20] <rick_> I have to mount and unmount with ntfs-3g?
[05:20] <rick_> What is I make the fs ext3?
[05:21] <Lilacor> rick_: if you want rw access to the volume, yes
[05:21] <silvertip257> ok Yorkshire ... I've read about this, but have not personally done it yet
[05:21] <Nom-> ok 2 things if anyone has any ideas:  1. The terminal is sending through some wierd stuff when I do things like alt-leftarrow (3D for instance) anyone know how to fix that?
[05:21] <rick_> if
[05:21] <Floker> yorkshire: loop up your query
[05:21] <Nom-> Acutally 2 i can find for myself, just need the page on > 3 button mice :)
[05:21] <rick_> Can I scan it with linux if damage occurs?
[05:21] <Lilacor> rick_: then you can mount it without ntfs-3g
[05:21] <Yorkshire> floker: eh
[05:21] <jonaskoelker> ... question
[05:21] <jonaskoelker> I'm trying to build iwlwifi
[05:21] <Lilacor> rick_: of course, it's native to linux
[05:21] <jonaskoelker> when I try, I get "Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/source'"
[05:21] <iehova> Hi everyone. This is probably really n00bish, but i'm trying to get my friend's ipod to connect to her feisty computer, and nothing happens when the ipod is plugged in, except the screen brightens for a second.
[05:22] <rick_> Can you give me an example of the command?
[05:22] <jadacyrus> Is there a way to install linux-restricted-modules w/out nvidia-kernel-common ?
[05:22] <iehova> It isn't recognized or mounted by ubuntu
[05:22] <silvertip257> Yorkshire:  you will most likely need to install the drivers via terminal ...
[05:22] <Lilacor> rick_: you can scan the ntfs disk with your ntfs utilities but I haven't had any luck with having  it cleaned up without the use of windows
[05:22] <iehova> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[05:22] <Floker> why is that?