[03:15] <madprops> hi
[03:15] <madprops> if i install 15.04 alpha 2
[03:15] <madprops> would i be able to upgrade to the final release when it comes out?
[08:41] <catopett> Need help
[08:44] <catopett> Noen Norske her?
[08:47] <catopett> Noen Norske her?
[08:48] <TomyLobo_r> you know, i like kde... but why does "apt-get install konsole --no-install-recommends" get me aspell?
[08:50] <TomyLobo_r> also, kwin and xming dont work together very well :)
[08:51] <valorie> TomyLobo_r: recommends are one thing; dependencies are another
[08:51] <valorie> !info xming
[08:51] <valorie> huh
[08:52] <valorie> that would be why, I guess
[08:52] <TomyLobo_r> i'm running kwin on a trusty vagrant box, xming on windows
[08:52] <valorie> then how would they interact?
[08:52] <TomyLobo_r> X forwarding
[08:53] <TomyLobo_r> konsole looks a bit crappy on xming without kwin
[08:54] <TomyLobo_r> but still a ton better than xterm :)
[08:59] <TomyLobo_r> and the handling is better than anything i found for windows
[09:02] <TomyLobo_r> vagrant ssh -c 'konsole --nofork' :)
[09:02] <TomyLobo_r> now it sticks
[09:07] <valorie> nice, I'm glad you found a solution
[09:13] <TomyLobo_r> not really... it's still a ton of depndencies i dont really need and it's still looking windowsy
[09:13] <TomyLobo_r> oh well
[09:14] <catopett> Hi folks, someone that can help me with a problem?
[09:14] <TomyLobo_r> we cant know that until you state the problem
[09:15] <catopett> Ok, i have a sim card reader and looking for a program that can reset sim cards pin and puk
[09:15] <catopett> The sim card reader has PL2303 chipset
[09:16] <TomyLobo> first of all, that sounds like it might be applied to stolen sim cards and second, it doesnt sound like it has anything to do with kubuntu
[09:17] <catopett> It is NOT stolen, i did not remember pincode and did put in wrong puk
[09:18] <TomyLobo> so, instead of requesting a new one from the operator, you buy a sim card reader?
[09:18] <catopett> Yes
[09:19] <valorie> in any case, we have nothing that can do such things
[09:20] <TomyLobo> and if you misplace your mobile, you buy an imsi catcher, right? :)
[09:20] <valorie> this is off-topic for this chan
[09:21] <catopett> And other thing as well, i have KUBUNTU 14.04, and want to upgrade to 14.10 with apt-get, howdo?
[09:21] <valorie> and probably not good for #kubuntu-offtopic either
[09:21] <valorie> catopett: you have to make sure that the LTS flag isn't turned on
[09:21] <TomyLobo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_14.04_LTS
[09:21] <valorie> muon is probably the easiest place to do that
[09:21] <catopett> How do i turn it off?
[09:22] <valorie> I believe the page that TomyLobo
[09:22] <valorie> linked will show you
[09:22] <valorie> yep
[09:24] <TomyLobo> strange... for once it worked, now when i start konsole using "vagrant ssh -c 'konsole --nofork'", i get a segfault
[09:26] <valorie> :(
[09:29] <TomyLobo> rebooting and restarting the x server didnt help either :/
[09:30] <TomyLobo> you know what, i forgot to set DISPLAY :D
[09:37] <catopett> Is there a kubuntu distro for radiohams?
[09:47] <lhorace> I want to say... 30 people agree with me... I iknow the whole world.....hoopefull people can speak up
[09:47] <lhorace> Now I am at 100
[09:50] <lhorace> read the link
[09:56] <valorie> catopett: you mean an application?
[09:56] <valorie> I don't see why you would need a whole distro, although I guess there could be something
[09:56] <valorie> lessee if ubottu knows anything
[09:56] <valorie> !radio
[09:56] <valorie> nope
[09:56] <valorie> !ham
[09:57] <valorie> fooey
[09:59] <valorie> looky: http://www.shackbox.net/
[09:59] <valorie> catopett: ^^
[10:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:06] <valorie> !hamradio
[10:06] <valorie> piffle
[10:06]  * valorie gives us
[10:06] <valorie> up
[10:09] <lordievader> !info gnuradio
[10:09] <lordievader> ^?
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:20] <MoonUnit`> hi
[12:57] <TheBigDeal> when i install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop i lost my default kubuntu-desktop, and i will no longer see desktop options in the login screen, what should i do?
[13:10] <BluesKaj> TheBigDeal,it seems plasma5 has become your default desktop which it's supposed to do
[13:12] <TheBigDeal> BluesKaj: when i had plasma4, it was showing me 'Plasma Workspace', But it's not a problem, the problem is that i will see nothing except the old background when i login :(
[13:51] <doublex> Hello. I4m testing Nightly. I'd like to upgrade to Kubuntu. But it doesn't look so easy. Moreover, i fear that if I find a bud, it would be hard to say if it is a KDE or a Nghtky bug. Any Yoda here? ^^ <doublex>: Or Obi-wan?
[13:52] <doublex> (By the way. Leïa must be a Jedi Master, now ^^ )
[13:55] <BluesKaj> doublex, what do you want to do exactly? ...forget the star wars references and just answer the question
[13:58] <doublex> I'm alraedy testing Nightly. I ant to upgrade my 14.04 Unity to KDE. (Kubuntu, if i'm not mistaken). And test both Nightly and KDE. 1) Can I do that? 2) if yes, how?
[13:58] <doublex> Hey, BluesKaj!
[13:59] <doublex> You again!
[13:59] <Quintasan> doublex: No ide what Nightly is but you can install kubuntu-desktop to get KDE on your Ubuntu install.
[13:59] <Quintasan> idea*
[13:59] <doublex> I've already done several things
[14:00] <doublex> I can't go farther than login page
[14:01] <BluesKaj> doublex, just below the login there should be an option to choose unitry or kde
[14:01] <doublex> Nightly is FF38
[14:01] <doublex> (test)
[14:01] <BluesKaj> in the dropdown
[14:01] <doublex> ok
[14:02] <Quintasan> What BluesKaj said. The desktop environment is not really related to Firefox
[14:02] <doublex> I choose kde?
[14:02] <doublex> ok
[14:02] <doublex> So np
[14:02] <Quintasan> doublex: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/kdeoneiric03.png
[14:02] <Quintasan> Something like this
[14:02] <Quintasan> There you pick KDE and log in as usual.
[14:03] <doublex> I don't have tis IHM
[14:04] <doublex> Looks I have installed something more "gutsy"....
[14:04] <doublex> I've got a blue IHM
[14:04] <doublex> So
[14:05] <BluesKaj> IHM?
[14:06] <doublex> A solution would be reinstall 14.04, and do what you say? apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:07] <doublex> Interface Homme (man) Machine
[14:07] <doublex> In English?
[14:07] <Quintasan> doublex: If you have no idea what are you doing I propose that you just install Kubuntu
[14:07] <doublex> The full OS!!!!
[14:08] <BluesKaj> doublex, ctl+alt+F1-F6 login and  run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:08] <doublex> Tried already
[14:08] <BluesKaj> ok then sudo servivce lightdm restart
[14:09] <doublex> Can't I DL Kubuntu already prepared?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> service
[14:09] <doublex> ah
[14:09] <doublex> This one, I didn't tried
[14:10] <BluesKaj> it'll just bring you back to the login page
[14:11] <doublex> Shortly. No Kubuntu is already ready for download?  I didn't found how. I've searched. But I didn't found
[15:16] <lordievader> doublex: Make a live-cd or a live-usb, boot from it and install.
[15:17] <doublex> That's what I've searched
[15:19] <lordievader> doublex: That is what you need to do, not search.
[15:20] <BluesKaj> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu, download the iso and burn it to a dvd then install , doublex
[15:21] <lordievader> Or make a live-usb with unetbootin from the iso.
[15:21] <doublex> Iv've downloaded it. burned it into a dvd. After, I don't know how to do
[15:21] <doublex> To install it
[15:22] <BluesKaj> doublex, make sure your BIOS has cdrom as first boot in the boot sequence
[15:22] <doublex> Ah. OK. thx
[15:22] <doublex> Both of you.
[15:22] <doublex> :)
[15:36] <doublex> BluesKaj, i've got a dual boot. Installing Kubuntu will not erase my 8.1? (2 hd)
[15:41] <likemindead> I've installed all the latest upgrades for Kubuntu 15.04 & my windows are all borked. Anyone else?
[15:43] <doublex> By the way...
[15:44] <doublex> No. Step by step
[15:44] <BluesKaj> doublex, not just install it to the existing ext4/Linux partition. Do you have both / and /home ext4 partitions?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> not=no ,
[15:45] <MoonUnit`> libregeekingkid_, not with the latest updates vivid is usable for me (radeon tahiti)
[15:45] <MoonUnit`> gah
[15:45] <MoonUnit`> likemindead,
[15:45] <likemindead> Yo!
[15:45] <doublex> I've gor 2 hard drives
[15:45] <doublex> got
[15:45] <doublex> 1 SSD for Linux, and another one
[15:45] <MoonUnit`> likemindead, when i first installed it had to disbale colortiling but that seems to be fixed now
[15:45] <doublex> Ok$
[15:45] <likemindead> Hmm.
[15:46] <doublex> I think it will be OK.
[15:46] <likemindead> Thanks.
[15:46] <doublex> Ok
[15:46] <doublex> I do it
[15:46] <MoonUnit`> have noticed gtk icons missing from apps in kubuntu vivid
[15:47] <BluesKaj> doublex, do you want to save the data from your linux install like media/music/video/photos , if any ?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`, best to ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:48] <doublex> Thx, BluesKaj. For me, Linux is for serious things. To entertainment, I use Windows 8.1. (Games....)
[15:49] <doublex> Ok., BluesKaj. Here we go
[15:49] <BluesKaj> so you can jus6t reformat the existing linux partition and run the dvd installer , doublex
[15:49] <doublex> Yes, Master Jedi. :)
[15:50] <doublex> Waait
[15:50] <BluesKaj> heh
[15:50] <doublex> The DVD won't erase himself old datas?
[15:52] <doublex> Ok
[15:52] <BluesKaj> doublex, the installer will ask you where to install kubuntu , choose the existing linux partition
[15:52] <doublex> Time to go
[15:52] <doublex> Ok
[15:53] <doublex> That's all folks.
[15:53] <doublex> :)
[16:33] <knro> Who is working on Kubutu desktop polish?
[16:38] <BluesKaj> knro, polish? do you mean the language?
[16:39] <knro> BluesKaj: No I meant general polish, there a lot of things that could see improvement
[16:40] <BluesKaj> knro, you could ask in #kubuntu-devel , however it's really dead in there today :/
[16:40] <OerHeks> knro, take a look at plasma 5 i guess
[16:40] <knro> BluesKaj: Thanks, I'll check it out
[16:40] <BluesKaj> now that needs polish :)
[16:42] <knro> OerHeks: It's not about Plasma5, but the default kicker structure is not really user or noob friendly. It's been the same structure for years
[16:43] <BluesKaj> knro, whynot just use the quicklaunch widget and place your fav apps there
[16:45] <knro> BluesKaj: I'm talking about distro defaults. Of course I have no issues installing what I want
[16:52] <BluesKaj> knro, I thought you were being critical about the clunky access to apps thru the kicker
[16:55] <knro> BluesKaj: That's another story :-)
[16:55] <knro> BluesKaj: How would a new user know how much hard drive space they have and how much left? Someone completely new to Linux?
[16:59] <BluesKaj> knro, just have to check in dolphin at the botttom for space on the drive by righr clicking there and checking space information
[16:59] <Dhan> !wayland
[16:59] <Dhan> !Mir
[17:06] <Coldfusionstorm> How do i see what version of plasma im running?
[17:06] <knro> BluesKaj: no info here, it display # of folders, right click displays options to "unmount" etc.. but nothing on disk utilization.
[17:08] <yofel> Coldfusionstorm: System Settings > About System
[17:09] <BluesKaj> knro, at the bottom middle , rightclick
[17:10] <Coldfusionstorm> ah thanks
[17:10] <Coldfusionstorm> also, i have a "no updates are availbale" in muon
[17:10] <Coldfusionstorm> but the icon is yellow with a ! in the middle
[17:13] <Coldfusionstorm> Plasma 5 here i comes
[17:13] <Coldfusionstorm> well
[17:13] <Coldfusionstorm> i have some font error
[17:13] <Coldfusionstorm> from some time ago
[17:13] <Coldfusionstorm> some mslibfonts
[17:13] <Coldfusionstorm> should i be worred?
[17:13] <Coldfusionstorm> *worried
[17:14] <Coldfusionstorm> Also, Thanks yofel :)
[17:17] <knro> BluesKaj: Why isn't this the default?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> knro, dunno why, I'm not a dev...btw du -sh will how much space is in use on the drive
[17:23] <BluesKaj> on the / partition rather]
[17:25] <sekisushai> hello, i've got a problem with automatic load of a module : it's snd-aloop, when i load it with sudo modprobe snd-aloop, it's working. Thus I added it to /etc/modules, but at each boot it's not loaded.. i've got to reload it manually..
[17:26] <BluesKaj> aloop is a kernel module sekisushai?
[17:27] <sekisushai> yes
[17:27] <sekisushai> it's working perfectly, but i can just load it manually, adding it to /etc/modules doesn't have any effect on its automatic load at boot time
[17:27] <sekisushai> ..
[17:27] <BluesKaj> is it set as Card0 in alsamixer ?
[17:28] <sekisushai> no, Card2
[17:32] <BluesKaj> sekisushai, in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , copy this line and paste it at the bottom then save the file,' options snd_aloop index=0 ', that will make it Card0 and it should load as default after a reboot
[17:34] <sekisushai> i try, brb
[17:35] <BluesKaj> sekisushai, you might also need to set the card name at the top of the list in system settings>multimedia>music>device preference
[17:36] <sekisushai> works !
[17:36] <sekisushai> thanks
[17:37] <BluesKaj> ok sekisushai, good
[17:37] <BluesKaj> sekisushai, you might also need to set the card name at the top of the list in system settings>multimedia>music>device preference
[17:37] <sekisushai> in fact there is this line options snd_aloop index=-2 to prevent it to be the first sound card
[17:38] <BluesKaj> change that line from -2 to 0
[17:39] <BluesKaj> I wonder why it was = -2
[17:39] <sekisushai> to prevent it to be the first, it's written in comments
[17:40] <sekisushai> # Prevent snd-aloop from being loaded as first soundcard
[17:40] <BluesKaj> sekisushai, do you have other sound chips on that pc?
[17:40] <sekisushai> yes
[17:40] <sekisushai> the intern chip
[17:40] <sekisushai> and a usb one
[17:43] <BluesKaj> ok , so you might want to make the internal sound chip a -2 witht the same string , whatever the module might be , you check with cat /proc/asound/cards , the name of thedriver will be beside the ]: in the output
[17:53] <margee> stuck at login screen any help
[17:58] <soee> margee: whan Kubuntu version ?
[18:08] <Coldfusionstorm> Anybody have some good resources for updating to plasma 5?
[18:09] <richard28711> can someone help me with clementine...it says that it is missing a plugin and i uninstalled  package and reinstalled it but it did not help
[18:10] <margee> Its trusty
[18:12] <margee> with Linux 3.13.0-29-generic
[18:13] <richard28711> Margee r u talking to me
[18:13] <soee> Coldfusionstorm: upgradon onwhat Kubuntu version ?
[18:14] <soee> margee: what happens if you enter credentials ?
[18:14] <margee> Actually Soee replied to my post
[18:14] <margee> Soee it loop backs to login screen
[18:14] <richard28711> can someone please help mee
[18:15] <soee> margee: do you see th eloding screen ?
[18:15] <margee> soee what is eloding ?
[18:16] <soee> margee: thevloding screen
[18:16] <soee> *the loding screen
[18:17] <soee> crap :)  mean: the loading screen
[18:20] <margee> Soee: after typing password and hitting enter dialog box disappears only background remains for asecond and then black and blank screen for 3-5 seconds and then again  login screen with a dialog box type in userid and password.
[18:21] <soee> BluesKaj: any idea ? ^
[18:21] <Coldfusionstorm> soee, im on 14:10
[18:23] <soee> Coldfusionstorm: im not sure if it is safe atm. The next-ppa is outdated, you could use kubuntu-ci pacakages but they might break your system
[18:24] <Coldfusionstorm> well, if there is a high risk of breakage il think il wait unfortunately damn
[18:24] <Coldfusionstorm> thanks soee .
[18:24] <soee> i suggest to wait fill Aprlil and update to Vivid
[18:24] <Coldfusionstorm> Vivid?
[18:24] <soee> *till
[18:24] <soee> Kubuntu 15.04
[18:24] <soee> it will have by defautl Plasma 5
[18:24] <Coldfusionstorm> ahh
[18:25] <Coldfusionstorm> but that's so far away XD
[18:25] <soee> you can also download Alpha 2 and test it already
[18:25] <Coldfusionstorm> the tech nerd in me want plasma 5 the rational working dude says, dude, stop just wait
[18:25] <soee> im uwng Vivid since few weeks on my laptop and work machine and all works pretty nice and stable
[18:25] <Coldfusionstorm> i guess i could try it in a VM
[18:25] <Coldfusionstorm> proprely the best idea
[18:26] <soee> also, probably next week Plsama 5.2.1 will land in Vivid archive so a lot of bugs are going to be fixed
[18:26] <lordievader> I'm currently installing it to my PXE server.
[18:26] <lordievader> Diskless plasma5 :D
[18:27] <soee> oh you ... :D
[18:27] <Coldfusionstorm> psst, because everyone has a PXE standing XD
[18:27] <Coldfusionstorm> brb restart
[18:27] <lordievader> It's not very difficult. And if you want an easy image setup then you just extract the iso ;)
[18:35] <Coldfusionstorm> back
[18:35] <Coldfusionstorm> odd, My Ethernet does not seem to Auto connect in 14.10
[18:36] <lordievader> Network manager?
[18:37] <Coldfusionstorm> what about it?
[18:39] <lordievader> Do you use the Network Manger to manage your network cards?
[18:41] <Coldfusionstorm> i don't know
[18:42] <Coldfusionstorm> yes i would presume
[18:42] <Coldfusionstorm> to the network manager
[18:44] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: Is it set to autoconnect the ethernet connection?
[18:45] <Coldfusionstorm> yes
[18:45] <lordievader> Hmm, anything in the logging about network manager?
[18:45] <Coldfusionstorm> "Auto matically connect to this network when available"
[18:46] <Coldfusionstorm> wich logger?
[18:46] <lordievader> Syslog.
[18:46] <Coldfusionstorm> where do i access that
[18:46] <lordievader> Or dmesg, but then you are looking for the interface.
[18:47] <Coldfusionstorm> just inputting syslog does not work
[18:47] <BluesKaj> Coldfusionstorm, run sudo dhclient eth0
[18:47] <Coldfusionstorm> in terminal
[18:47] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: grep -i networkmanager /var/log/syslog
[18:47] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Shall we first try to find the problem?
[18:48] <BluesKaj> that will make a connection if the eth0 is turned off , lordievader
[18:48] <lordievader> BluesKaj: No it wont, it will throw an dhcp request over that interface.
[18:48] <Coldfusionstorm> the connection is online,it just does not auto connect
[18:49] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: No logging in the syslog?
[18:49] <Coldfusionstorm> http://pastebin.com/ARNQXp77
[18:49] <Coldfusionstorm> that is the output of grep
[18:49] <BluesKaj> yes lordievader and then it weill find the gatewway and connect
[18:51] <lordievader> BluesKaj: No, in order to have a successfull dhcp answer you already have a connection. But lets not dabble in details.  (What timecode)
[18:52] <margee> on trusty which piece of software does run after lightdm on kubuntu
[18:52] <Coldfusionstorm> no idea 5 minutes or so
[18:53] <BluesKaj> sudo service network-manager restart
[18:53] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: Here you go: (eth0): deactivating device (reason 'managed')
[18:53] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: Could you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces?
[18:54] <CrabFishes> Is there a specific channel to ask plasma5 questions?
[18:54] <madeti> CrabFishes: try #plasma
[18:54] <lordievader> CrabFishes: This one, #kubuntu-devel, #kde, #plasma. Have your pick ;)
[18:55] <Coldfusionstorm> yes
[18:55] <Coldfusionstorm> http://pastebin.com/EXsJ3RB2
[18:55] <Coldfusionstorm> im not sure i opened it the right way
[18:55] <Coldfusionstorm> to i took the console input too
[18:55] <CrabFishes> thanks guys, might be a KDE generic question, im looking to configure global media key shortcuts but cant seem to find any listed in the keyboard shortcut settings
[18:56] <alessandro> ciao
[18:57] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: What does /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf look like?
[18:58] <BluesKaj> had to boot into 14.10, konversation in plasma 5/15.04  was using almost 60% of my cpu ..6t5hat's 10X more than it should use
[18:59] <Coldfusionstorm> let me get it
[19:00] <Coldfusionstorm> http://pastebin.com/0mDt9w0R
[19:00] <Coldfusionstorm> This is the file
[19:00] <Coldfusionstorm> but imn getting this error from console
[19:00] <Coldfusionstorm> ** (gedit:3954): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-xyO5kXMsa1: Connection refused
[19:00] <Coldfusionstorm> when open them
[19:01] <Coldfusionstorm> *when i
[19:01] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: Gedit under KDE is strange, try using Kate.
[19:02] <Coldfusionstorm> kate gives same file output
[19:02] <Coldfusionstorm> but a different console error
[19:02] <Coldfusionstorm> QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave
[19:02] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: sudo or kdesudo?
[19:02] <Coldfusionstorm> i did not sudo
[19:03] <BluesKaj> the NM config file looks perfectly normal
[19:03] <Coldfusionstorm> just using sudo in front of kate drops alot of errors on me
[19:03] <lordievader> Yeah, I'm not really sure why NM disables the interface.
[19:03] <Coldfusionstorm> http://pastebin.com/vFz4NDkx
[19:04] <Coldfusionstorm> This is my console output from the last commands
[19:04] <Coldfusionstorm> okay, so im not just imagin things
[19:04] <BluesKaj> kdesudo for graphical files like kate and dolphin , Coldfusionstorm
[19:04] <Coldfusionstorm> it does not auto connect right?
[19:05] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: No, lines 193 till 205 from your syslog paste.
[19:06] <Coldfusionstorm> iẗ́s proprely that damn ALX driver
[19:07] <Coldfusionstorm> i read that the kernal have tons of problems with that
[19:07] <Coldfusionstorm> but at least my internet is somewhat stable now
[19:07] <Coldfusionstorm> so
[19:07] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: Is it a desktop or laptop?
[19:07] <Coldfusionstorm> Carrier down
[19:07] <Coldfusionstorm> Laptop
[19:07] <Coldfusionstorm> Gaming laptop
[19:08] <lordievader> Hmm. Else I would have suggested configuring the interface in /etc/network/interfaces but for a laptop that is very nasty.
[19:08] <Coldfusionstorm> Not sure if that matters
[19:08] <Coldfusionstorm> why is it nasty in a laptop
[19:08] <Coldfusionstorm> let me guess powermanagement controls ..../interfaces
[19:08] <steven__> hey need some help
[19:09] <lordievader> !ask | steven__
[19:09] <steven__> on kubuntu can teamspeak 3 be install
[19:09] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: No, those configuration files are ment for servers where there is ~allways a cable plugged in. On a laptop this is not allways the case and upstart will wait 2 minutes for that network connection.
[19:10] <Coldfusionstorm> ah
[19:10] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: What is the output of "grep eth0 /var/log/dmesg"?
[19:11] <Coldfusionstorm> http://pastebin.com/5stRMuY8
[19:11] <Coldfusionstorm> This
[19:12] <steven__> can i install teamspeak 3 on kubuntu
[19:12] <Coldfusionstorm> i thought my NIC was a QR something something
[19:13] <lordievader> steven__: Doesn't seem to be in the repos.
[19:14] <Coldfusionstorm> steven__,
[19:14] <Coldfusionstorm> http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads
[19:15] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: Hmm, you could be very nasty and write a small script in /etc/rc.local.
[19:15] <steven__> i download the  Linux one right
[19:15] <Coldfusionstorm> yes
[19:16] <Coldfusionstorm> you will properly have to google around a bit
[19:16] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: Check with ethtool if a cable is connected and then set up the connection.
[19:16] <steven__> i download it not sure how to get it to install
[19:16] <Coldfusionstorm> are you talking about a work around now lordievader ?
[19:17] <Coldfusionstorm> because the current workaround is just using the taskbar network manager to connect
[19:17] <lordievader> Most unfortunately yes. It makes no sense to me why NM is disableing the connection.
[19:17] <Coldfusionstorm> it's not a huge problem, but it should work out of the box
[19:17] <lordievader> Coldfusionstorm: Agreed.
[19:17] <Coldfusionstorm> alright, il try posting on forums
[19:17] <Coldfusionstorm> steven__, 2 sec, let me try installing it
[19:18] <lordievader> steven__: Is it a .deb?
[19:18] <Coldfusionstorm> no
[19:18] <Coldfusionstorm> it's a .run
[19:18] <lordievader> sudo sh ./<foo>.dun
[19:18] <lordievader> .run*
[19:18] <steven__> i download it to the kubuntu desktop
[19:19] <lordievader> steven__: Open a terminal: cd Desktop&&sudo sh ./<name-of-the-thing>.run
[19:20] <lordievader> Or ofcourse: sudo sh Desktop/<name-of-the-thing>.run
[19:20] <steven__> thank you
[19:20] <BluesKaj> Coldfusionstorm,were you connecting via wifi previous to try ing with the ethernet connection?
[19:20] <Coldfusionstorm> no
[19:21] <Coldfusionstorm> not today
[19:21] <BluesKaj> but you did so in the recent past
[19:21] <Coldfusionstorm> sure i change between wireless and    Cable depending on where in the house i am what am doing ect
[19:22] <Coldfusionstorm> but in this casei was just starting my computer
[19:23] <BluesKaj> Coldfusionstorm, but why? surely once you have a wifi connection setup it should work throughout the house and even outside
[19:24] <Coldfusionstorm> Why would i use wireless when i can use cable?
[19:24]  * BluesKaj shrugs , convenience ?
[19:25] <Coldfusionstorm> yeah, i play games so.. Latency
[19:25] <Coldfusionstorm> also i download lots of large files
[19:26] <Coldfusionstorm> Anyways,m Thanks for the help Everybody
[19:38] <steven__> is it  say the command not found
[19:38] <steven__> download linux teamspeak 3  in download
[19:39] <lordievader> steven__: What have you typed exactly?
[19:39] <steven__> open terminal
[19:40] <lordievader> steven__: What did you type into the terminal?
[19:41] <steven__> teamspeak3-client-linuxx86-3.0.16
[19:41] <lordievader> steven__: That is not what I said: sudo sh Desktop/teamspeak3-client-linuxx86-3.0.16.run
[19:42] <steven__> now it saying no such file or directory
[19:42] <steven__> teamspeak3  linux in download folder
[19:43] <lordievader> 21-20:18 < steven__> i download it to the kubuntu desktop
[19:43] <steven__> i am really new to this has just come way from windows xp
[19:44] <steven__> i just move it to desktop now
[19:50] <steven__> any way guy and girl some one add teamspeak3 in the software centre be so easy for me to click to get this towork
[19:53] <steven__> how do i get the teamspeak3 client -linux to install  dont no what command i need to put in
[19:55] <steven__> this what i go ok  it     \desktops\teamspeak3-client-linux x86-3-2  what command i need
[19:55] <chicken_> buckistan.myshopify.com
[19:58] <steven__> this what i go ok  it     \desktops\teamspeak3-client-linux x86-3-2  what command i need
[19:58] <steven__> to install this on kubuntu
[20:05] <BluesKaj> steven__, right click on the teamspeak file,  choose properties, then copy and paste the complete file name from the addressbar, and paste here , so we can look at it.
[20:07] <steven__> ok
[20:13] <lordievader> steven__: I already told you several times: sudo sh Desktop/teamspeak3-client-linux x86-3-2.run (or however the thing is called)
[20:14] <steven__> brb
[20:15] <Steven__> i am back here the info of where this is  ok
[20:18] <BluesKaj> lordievader, sh with a .run file ?
[20:18] <Coldfusionstorm> Steven__,
[20:18] <Coldfusionstorm> when you have packed the files out
[20:18] <Coldfusionstorm> dubble click ts3client_runscript.sh
[20:19] <BluesKaj> anyway bbl
[20:21] <Steven__> dubble click it
[20:22] <lordievader> bprompt_: Yes, look at the nvidia driver ;)
[20:22] <Steven__> and it got the scrips
[20:22]  * bprompt_ looks at the nvidia driver, it looks nice
[20:23] <Steven__> this where it is ok
[20:23] <Steven__> koshy@GCHQWING:~/Downloads$
[20:23] <bprompt_> ln -s bprompt_  BluesKaj
[20:26] <Steven__> koshy@GCHQWING:~/Downloads$ /TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_x86-3.0.16.run
[20:27] <Steven__> really going to need help on this
[20:27] <Coldfusionstorm> alright
[20:27] <dougl> LOL bprompt_
[20:27] <Coldfusionstorm> steven, Do you have a terminal open
[20:27] <Steven__> yep
[20:28] <Coldfusionstorm> go to downloads
[20:28] <Coldfusionstorm> with it
[20:28] <Steven__> yep
[20:28] <dougl> when you run stuff ./foo-run
[20:29] <Coldfusionstorm> akright
[20:29] <Coldfusionstorm> now  write
[20:30] <Coldfusionstorm> sh ./teamspeak name here
[20:30] <Coldfusionstorm> to make it easy
[20:30] <Coldfusionstorm> rename the file
[20:30] <dougl> or team<tab key>
[20:30] <Coldfusionstorm> yes but tab might not always work
[20:32] <Coldfusionstorm> can you get it to work Steven__?
[20:33] <Steven__> no luck
[20:34] <Coldfusionstorm> well, steven
[20:34] <Coldfusionstorm> i can tell you this
[20:34] <Coldfusionstorm> you need to exstract the file
[20:34] <Coldfusionstorm> with sh
[20:34] <Coldfusionstorm> i would google it
[20:34] <Coldfusionstorm> i have it working now
[20:34] <Coldfusionstorm> the same file you have
[20:34] <dougl> right, luck is never on your side.... copy and paste the 2 lines, what you typed adn what the response was Stern
[20:36] <Steven__> wish add teamspeak 3 to the sofware centre it be so easy for me
[20:36] <dougl> use mumble
[20:36] <Steven__> oshy@GCHQWING:~/Downloads$ /TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_x86-3.0.16
[20:37] <dougl> you forgot the "."
[20:37] <Steven__> where it goto go
[20:38] <dougl> ./TeamSp<tab key> enterkey
[20:39] <dougl> when you hit the tab key it completes to a point where you can make a choice again... so when you hit tab key if nothing happens hit it again and it will give you a list of options
[20:40] <dougl> if there is only one option it will fill in to the end of .run and you can hit enter then
[20:40] <Coldfusionstorm> The tab thing does not always work for me
[20:40] <dougl> if it is bash it will
[20:41] <dougl> and arent we assuming 14.10 or other lts distro - I am
[20:42] <dougl> anyway I did not want to jack the channel or any thing just hate to see my linux brothers struggling
[20:42] <Coldfusionstorm> no, feel free, do help him out
[20:43] <dougl> yep that's what we are all here for :)
[20:44] <Steven__> you wood think it linux program   teamspeak3  click and install
[20:44] <Coldfusionstorm> it is
[20:44] <Coldfusionstorm> you just can't figure out how to exstract it
[20:45] <dougl> Steven__, linux is case sensative and needs to be pointed at executables that are not in the defined path - even current dir you are in you have to point to that is the "."
[20:45] <Coldfusionstorm> rename the file to teamspeak3
[20:45] <Coldfusionstorm> the do from terminal
[20:45] <dougl> tar -xvf Team nm
[20:45] <Coldfusionstorm> sudo sh teamspeak3
[20:46] <Steven__> wish this desktop have remot link
[20:46] <dougl> it does
[20:46] <Steven__> be so dam easy
[20:47] <Coldfusionstorm> it IS easy
[20:47] <Coldfusionstorm> have you renamed the file you downloaded
[20:48] <Steven__> really sorry i hold you guy up known how busy you guy are some one walking way from windows  rip off  to linux
[20:48] <Coldfusionstorm> http://pastebin.com/HBbzCJM9
[20:48] <Coldfusionstorm> look at pastebin Steven__
[20:48] <Coldfusionstorm> see the folder i am in
[20:49] <Coldfusionstorm> and what there is in it
[20:50] <Steven__> rename the file to TeamSpeak3.run
[20:51] <Coldfusionstorm> yes
[20:51] <Steven__> click it i get TeamSpeak3.run kate come up
[20:51] <Coldfusionstorm> yes don't click it
[20:51] <Coldfusionstorm> in terminal
[20:52] <Steven__> ok
[20:52] <Coldfusionstorm> you are in the folder
[20:52] <Coldfusionstorm> then do
[20:52] <Coldfusionstorm> sh TeamSpeak3.run
[20:52] <Coldfusionstorm> you might have to do sudo sh TeamSpeak3.run
[20:52] <Steven__> koshy@GCHQWING:~/Downloads$
[20:52] <Coldfusionstorm> good
[20:52] <dougl> you kids and your point and click - hang in there Steven__
[20:52] <Coldfusionstorm> if you click dir
[20:52] <Coldfusionstorm> what do you get
[20:53] <Coldfusionstorm> write
[20:53] <Coldfusionstorm> *write dir
[20:53] <Steven__>  Command 'zwrite' from package 'zephyr-clients' (universe) *write: command not found koshy@GCHQWING:~/Downloads$
[20:53] <Coldfusionstorm> just
[20:53] <Coldfusionstorm> dir
[20:54] <Coldfusionstorm> "dir"
[20:54] <Steven__> type  dir  get this
[20:54] <Steven__> koshy@GCHQWING:~/Downloads$ dir TeamSpeak3..run
[20:54] <dougl> ls
[20:54] <Coldfusionstorm> great
[20:55] <dougl> ls is the linux dir command
[20:55] <Coldfusionstorm> This is wrong
[20:55] <Coldfusionstorm> TeamSpeak3..run
[20:55] <Coldfusionstorm> it should look like this
[20:55] <Steven__> fix it
[20:55] <Coldfusionstorm> TeamSpeak3.run
[20:55] <Coldfusionstorm> rename it again
[20:55] <Steven__> koshy@GCHQWING:~/Downloads$ dir TeamSpeak3.run
[20:55] <Coldfusionstorm> good
[20:55] <Coldfusionstorm> yes
[20:55] <Coldfusionstorm> now do
[20:55] <Coldfusionstorm> sh Teamspeak3.run
[20:56] <Coldfusionstorm> it will then ask you to press enter
[20:56] <Coldfusionstorm> press enter
[20:56] <Coldfusionstorm> and then Q
[20:56] <Coldfusionstorm> and then Y
[20:56] <Steven__> get this
[20:56] <Steven__> koshy@GCHQWING:~/Downloads$ sh Teamspeak3.run sh: 0: Can't open Teamspeak3.run koshy@GCHQWING:~/Downloads$
[20:56] <Coldfusionstorm> okay
[20:57] <Coldfusionstorm> try sudo sh TeamSpeak3.run
[20:57] <Steven__> now it ask for the password
[20:57] <Coldfusionstorm> GREAT!
[20:57] <Coldfusionstorm> put in password
[20:58] <lordievader> Is the executable bit set?
[20:58] <Steven__> Welcome to the TeamSpeak 3 Client for Linux on x86 installer  In order to install this software you are required to accept the license agreement, please press return to view the license.  You can scroll with the arrow keys and quit the viewer by pressing 'q'. [RETURN]
[20:58] <lordievader> And can't open sounds like a wrong argument.
[20:58] <dougl> lordievader, I would have chown or chmod
[20:58] <lordievader> Hmm, never mind.
[20:59] <Coldfusionstorm> Great, Steven__ , Press enter (the [return] button]
[20:59] <Coldfusionstorm> and then Q
[20:59] <Coldfusionstorm> a new folder with teamspeak in it should open
[20:59] <Steven__> shweet
[21:00] <dougl> right on
[21:00] <Coldfusionstorm> insinde the new teamspeak folder
[21:01] <Coldfusionstorm> there should be a file named ts3client_runscript.sh
[21:01] <Coldfusionstorm> just click it! :D
[21:01] <dougl> good show guys!!!
[21:01] <Steven__> click it
[21:01] <Coldfusionstorm> yes
[21:01] <dougl> but seriously why the TS love ?
[21:02] <Coldfusionstorm> because that is what his guild, or friends use
[21:02] <Coldfusionstorm> or whateverf
[21:02] <Coldfusionstorm> the point is he needs it
[21:02] <dougl> yep - k
[21:02] <Steven__> is it in stall now
[21:02] <Coldfusionstorm> you can use it from that folder now
[21:02] <Coldfusionstorm> it is not registered in the start menu unfortunately
[21:02] <Steven__> got the folder  with teamspea3 in it
[21:03] <Coldfusionstorm> yes
[21:03] <Coldfusionstorm> ts3client.sh
[21:03] <Coldfusionstorm> run that
[21:03] <dougl> what is the awesome game?
[21:03] <Coldfusionstorm> the precise name is ts3client_runscript.sh
[21:03] <Coldfusionstorm> just click it
[21:04] <Steven__> shweet it work
[21:04]  * Coldfusionstorm Drops a tear of sweat
[21:04] <Coldfusionstorm> nice!
[21:04] <Coldfusionstorm> Grats :D
[21:04] <Steven__> thank you guy very much for all of your hard work helping me
[21:04] <Coldfusionstorm> Sure ;)
[21:04] <Coldfusionstorm> Glad you got it working
[21:04] <Steven__> this lot bettbetter and ripoff windows lolol
[21:05] <Coldfusionstorm> be sure to have the right microphone setup
[21:05] <darthanubis> does amarok work for anyone?
[21:05] <dougl> two days of grief and a nervous breakdown and help from the chat room -> Linux always works
[21:05] <soee> darthanubis: sure
[21:05] <Steven__> lol
[21:05] <Coldfusionstorm> well it's getting better dougl
[21:05] <Steven__> i be working on this for 2 week
[21:05] <Coldfusionstorm> darthanubis, it does not work for me either
[21:05] <Steven__> working it out
[21:05] <Coldfusionstorm> just instantly crashes
[21:05] <dougl> oh yeah - I said 2 days... used to be two weeks
[21:05] <darthanubis> thats what is happening here
[21:06] <darthanubis> crash instantly
[21:06] <soee> with what errors ?
[21:06] <Coldfusionstorm> it just closes instantly
[21:06] <darthanubis> I using Clementine instead, but curious about the Amarok issue
[21:06] <soee> darthanubis: my suggestion: try to disable plugins you are not using
[21:06] <Coldfusionstorm> it throws a quick error and then closes
[21:06] <soee> like various services integration
[21:06] <Steven__> really hop  put teamspeak 3 on sofware centre
[21:06] <Coldfusionstorm> i actually get a error message now
[21:06] <darthanubis> dbus error mysql error is debug mode
[21:07] <Coldfusionstorm> Sorry, Ubuntu 14.10 has experienced an internal error
[21:07] <Coldfusionstorm> and amarok is listed in this
[21:08] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/RTLDH1Xf
[21:08] <soee> darthanubis: on 14.10 ?
[21:10] <darthanubis> yes
[21:10] <lordievader> darthanubis: amarok: Fatal IO error: client killed, what is the output of 'strace -eopen amarok'?
[21:11] <Coldfusionstorm> This is the amarok error i get
[21:11] <Coldfusionstorm> http://pastebin.com/c04wtSen
[21:12] <Coldfusionstorm> This is my Error report with the command Given
[21:12] <Coldfusionstorm> http://pastebin.com/snYs9LKx
[21:13] <Coldfusionstorm> im not trying to hihack here, just inputting my stuff too as it seems that we have the same error
[21:13] <lordievader> Hmm, "Could not parse stylesheet of widget 0x2930d40" sounds like it could cause trouble.
[21:13] <lordievader> Mamarok, werent you the maintainer of Amarok? You might want to take a look at the above.
[21:14] <darthanubis> Coldfusionstorm: I'm glad you piped up:)
[21:14] <Coldfusionstorm> yeah, it's good to know one is not alone with ones problems :)
[21:14] <darthanubis> exactly!:)
[21:19] <Coldfusionstorm> but that seems to be that :/
[21:19] <darthanubis> indeed
[21:19] <darthanubis> but maybe it takes a while to parse all that data
[21:19] <darthanubis> my output was a lot of debug stuff
[21:19] <Coldfusionstorm> it proprely does
[21:19] <Coldfusionstorm> but would be nice to know if anybody even looked at it
[21:20] <darthanubis> but it seems to be a dbus error, mysql, and it not liking the vlc phonon backend
[21:20] <darthanubis> but it crashed with the regular gstreamer backend
[21:20] <Coldfusionstorm> i wonder if VLC does it
[21:20] <Coldfusionstorm> mine amarok worked in the beginning
[21:20] <Coldfusionstorm> il try uninstalling VLC
[21:21] <darthanubis> mine worked upon installation and started crashing before I installed vlc backend. I installed vlc backend to fix the issue
[21:21] <darthanubis> Clementine is a better player anyway
[21:21] <darthanubis> Just like for everything to work
[21:21] <Coldfusionstorm> yeah did not seem to have effect either
[21:22] <Mamarok> lordievader: I am not a maintainer, no, just handling bugs and doing support
[21:23] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: whjat tdid you change before this happened?
[21:23] <Coldfusionstorm> nothing i can remember
[21:23] <Coldfusionstorm> *remember
[21:23] <Coldfusionstorm> amarok suddenlt just did not work
[21:24] <Coldfusionstorm> it did not work before the update to 14.10 either
[21:24] <Mamarok> weird, Kubuntu 14.10?
[21:24] <Coldfusionstorm> yes
[21:24] <Coldfusionstorm> i should note that this installation was originally a ubuntu installation
[21:24] <Coldfusionstorm> and i plugged KDE down on top of it
[21:25] <Mamarok> that shouldn't matter, did you do a system updated or something the like?
[21:25] <Coldfusionstorm> i do update my system now and then (with muon updater)
[21:25] <Coldfusionstorm> but nothing i noticed
[21:25] <Coldfusionstorm> like installing a update and then amarok stopped working
[21:26] <Mamarok> weird, whcih exact Phonon bac kend do you use?
[21:26] <Coldfusionstorm> How do i check that
[21:26] <Coldfusionstorm> GStreaner
[21:26] <Coldfusionstorm> *streamer
[21:26] <Mamarok> and could you please provide the output of amarok -d --nofork?
[21:26] <Coldfusionstorm> 4.7.80
[21:27] <Mamarok> well, the phonon-backend-gstreamer, yes, but which exact version of it?
[21:27] <Mamarok> ah, thx
[21:27] <Mamarok> same backend I use
[21:27] <Coldfusionstorm> np
[21:27] <Coldfusionstorm> http://pastebin.com/wjTzbqJh
[21:27] <Coldfusionstorm> it ended with a segfault
[21:28] <Coldfusionstorm> core dumped
[21:28] <Coldfusionstorm> http://pastebin.com/wjTzbqJh
[21:28] <Mamarok> do you use any external scripts?
[21:28] <Coldfusionstorm> no
[21:29] <Coldfusionstorm> ive hardly ever used Amarok
[21:30] <Mamarok> weird, something must have been changed on your system to cause a crash just like this, out of the blue
[21:30] <Coldfusionstorm> i do use serveral desktop widgets tho
[21:31] <Mamarok> irrelevant, you do use the regular KDE, you didn't trxy toisntall plasma 5 or some such?
[21:31] <Coldfusionstorm> no, i specifically did not try to update to Plasma 5
[21:31] <Coldfusionstorm> because the risk of breakage was too high
[21:32] <Mamarok> let's try to rule out, step by step, I suspect something was removed amarok does need to work correctly
[21:33] <Coldfusionstorm> alright
[21:34] <Mamarok> so let's remove the config files, do this:
[21:34] <Mamarok> rm $HOME/.kde/share/config/amarok*
[21:34] <Mamarok> don't erase anything else
[21:34] <Coldfusionstorm> okay
[21:34] <Coldfusionstorm> does this * need to be there
[21:34] <Coldfusionstorm> it's a wildcard correct
[21:35] <aspects2015> Hi
[21:35] <Coldfusionstorm> alright
[21:35] <Mamarok> yes, as there are 3 config files
[21:35] <Mamarok> and we try to restart with a clean config
[21:35] <Coldfusionstorm> alright, done
[21:35] <aspects2015> I lost my Kubuntu graphics any idea how can i fix this?
[21:35] <Mamarok> so run amarok -d --nofork again
[21:36] <Mamarok> aspects2015: which graphics? which Kubuntu version?
[21:36] <aspects2015> Mamarok: 14.10
[21:36] <Coldfusionstorm> Alright
[21:36] <Coldfusionstorm> that worked
[21:36] <Coldfusionstorm> i did have to do
[21:36] <Coldfusionstorm> amarok -d --nofork
[21:36] <Coldfusionstorm> instead of run
[21:36] <Coldfusionstorm> run gave me a command not found
[21:36] <aspects2015> Mamarok: I encountered some problems when i installed Plasma5
[21:36] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: I guess you had some script gone havoc
[21:37] <Coldfusionstorm> download of charts seems to have failed
[21:37] <aspects2015> Mamarok: so i decided to go back to kde
[21:37] <Mamarok> aspects2015: plasma 5 is not supported in current Kubuntu release anyway, it's not even beta yet
[21:37] <Coldfusionstorm> Alright
[21:37] <Coldfusionstorm> Well, Thanks
[21:37] <aspects2015> Mamarok: oh, :(
[21:37] <Coldfusionstorm> darthanubis,
[21:38] <Coldfusionstorm> Look above
[21:38] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: the free musci charts website was disabled a few months ago, but I doubt this should cause that
[21:38] <Coldfusionstorm> I fixed my Amarock
[21:38] <aspects2015> Mamarok: What to do to reset everything?
[21:38] <Mamarok> aspects2015: you need to ask somebody else, I never tried
[21:38] <aspects2015> hmm
[21:38] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: it's Amarok, not Amarock
[21:39] <Mamarok> no relation with Rock whatsoever
[21:39] <Coldfusionstorm> sorry XD
[21:39] <Coldfusionstorm> i know, it just sneaked in there
[21:39] <Mamarok> google for amarok by Mike Oldfield
[21:39] <aspects2015> Hey everyone, any idea how can i reset my graphics?
[21:39] <aspects2015> factory-default my graphics actually
[21:40] <Coldfusionstorm> hmm
[21:40] <Coldfusionstorm> well, Amarok shouldbe able to start even with faulty scripts
[21:41] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: awesome track, and it's worth listening into several times, as it was a protest against Virgin records back then
[21:41] <Coldfusionstorm> but thanks a ton Mamarok :)
[21:41] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: agreed, we disabled it upstream since quite some time, but Kubuntu would need to repackage and backport that
[21:42] <Coldfusionstorm> disabled the script thing?
[21:42] <Mamarok> anyway, I doubt it was that particular script, maybe a combination of other factors
[21:42] <Coldfusionstorm> or Amarok entirely
[21:42] <darthanubis> does amarok need to be run with the nofork switch everytime?
[21:42] <Mamarok> well, the script was removed quite some time ago
[21:42] <Mamarok> darthanubis: no, shouldn't be necessary, but it helps to identify problems
[21:43] <darthanubis> thanks
[21:43] <darthanubis> it has not crashed yet:)
[21:43] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: we are about to release 2.9 beta anyway
[21:43] <Coldfusionstorm> Cool :)
[21:43] <antoni_> rubsantoni
[21:43] <darthanubis> Mamarok: do you guys have an amarok ppa?
[21:43] <darthanubis> love ppas
[21:44] <Mamarok> nope
[21:44] <valorie> why would amarok need a ppa? it is a package
[21:44] <Mamarok> that^
[21:44] <m_tadeu> what can I use for parental control?
[21:45] <darthanubis> a different channel for testing before full release to mainstream?
[21:45] <Mamarok> darthanubis: we have git testers already since quite some time
[21:46] <Coldfusionstorm> brb restarting Xchat
[21:47] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: if you use KDE, try konversation as a chat client
[21:47] <lordievader> aspects2015: How do you mean reset your graphics?
[21:47] <darthanubis> Coldfusionstorm: if you like xchat you'll love hexchat!
[21:47] <Coldfusionstorm> i use hex on my windoze machine
[21:48] <Coldfusionstorm> i was not aware it ran on nix too
[21:48] <Coldfusionstorm> altho i did notice it the other day in the software center
[21:48] <Coldfusionstorm> Does anyone know of a good way to get icons to show nicely on the desktop
[21:48] <Coldfusionstorm> instead of getting that 70% transparant folder thingy
[21:50] <lordievader> How was the kde power management package called again?
[21:51] <lordievader> Was it the powerdevil package?
[21:51] <Coldfusionstorm> So darthanubis , i have hex chat now
[21:51] <Coldfusionstorm> they look similar
[21:51] <Coldfusionstorm> what should i like about it?
[21:52] <darthanubis> more options
[21:52] <darthanubis> sasl
[21:52] <aspects2015> lordievader: sorry :(, i messed everything up :(
[21:52] <darthanubis> finer control
[21:52] <Coldfusionstorm> alright, il let it rest on my machine but i will properly use xchat untill i need those controls
[21:52] <aspects2015> could you give my the command to purge the kubuntu next ppa please?
[21:53] <lordievader> aspects2015: ppa-purge <ppa-name>
[21:53] <darthanubis> cool
[21:53] <aspects2015> lordievader: What's the ppa name exactly, please.
[21:54] <lordievader> Hmm, power configuration says powermanagement ain't running. Startup and shutdown says it is running... -.-
[21:54] <darthanubis> waiting for amarok to populate my colletion from my freenas server via nfs
[21:54] <darthanubis> don't know if it is happening
[21:54] <lordievader> aspects2015: No idea, look at their ppa page.
[21:54] <aspects2015> lordievader: :(, i'm on the tty
[21:54] <Coldfusionstorm> uhnnn
[21:54] <Coldfusionstorm> Dolphin is so effing good
[21:55]  * bprompt uses mostly krusader
[21:55] <lordievader> aspects2015: I'm on a box without a browser ;)
[21:55] <Coldfusionstorm> gaah
[21:55] <Coldfusionstorm> hmm
[21:55] <aspects2015> lordievader: oh :(
[21:55] <lordievader> Does that powerdevil log to somewhere?
[21:55] <Coldfusionstorm> jhoawhat is good about krusader?
[21:56] <aspects2015> any one help us please :(
[21:57] <aspects2015> lordievader: got a phone :P
[21:58] <darthanubis> crashed again while scanning the nfs share
[22:01] <lordievader> aspects2015: I think: ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next
[22:01] <aspects2015> how to read all the channel topic when using a client like weechat or irssi?
[22:01] <lordievader> aspects2015: /topic
[22:01] <aspects2015> lordievader: ah, thanks :D
[22:04] <Coldfusionstorm> how do i make certain drives not show in Dolphin
[22:04] <Coldfusionstorm> i have a recovery drive from windows i don't want shown
[22:05] <Coldfusionstorm> i don't even think i want it to mount
[22:06] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: unmount it? Right click on it, and then change the mount options in your syystem settings
[22:06] <Coldfusionstorm> where in system settings
[22:07] <Coldfusionstorm> removable devices all options are greyed out
[22:10] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: normally windows drives don't show up there, I guess its in the nfs settings you choose, then
[22:10] <Mamarok> in Dolphin > Network
[22:11] <Coldfusionstorm> hmm
[22:12] <Coldfusionstorm> i don't see anything relevant in the network folder
[22:12] <Mamarok> but by default it should not be mounted anyway
[22:12] <Coldfusionstorm> and i don't have a network inside options
[22:12] <Coldfusionstorm> it's not a network mount btw
[22:12] <Coldfusionstorm> it's a local drive
[22:12] <darthanubis> Coldfusionstorm: are you playing your music file locally or over the network?
[22:12] <Mamarok> you said nfs
[22:13] <Coldfusionstorm> i said a windows drive
[22:13] <Coldfusionstorm> this pc is still a dual boot
[22:13] <Coldfusionstorm> so it has NFTS drives
[22:14] <Mamarok> you said nfs earlier :)
[22:14] <Mamarok> and nfs =! ntfs
[22:15] <Coldfusionstorm> nope
[22:15] <Coldfusionstorm> the nfs thing was darthanubis , who talked about some music
[22:15] <Coldfusionstorm> i think you mixed us together
[22:15] <Mamarok> ah, yes, you are right :)
[22:16] <Coldfusionstorm> :)
[22:16] <Coldfusionstorm> i looked a bit on the interwebz
[22:16] <Coldfusionstorm> and fstab seems to be the way to go
[22:17] <Coldfusionstorm> but it lists 2 drives
[22:17] <Coldfusionstorm> neither wich is nfts
[22:18] <Mamarok> well, Dolphin shows all available drives on the local machine, that doesn't mean it mounts it automatically
[22:18] <Coldfusionstorm> true
[22:18] <Coldfusionstorm> it's just the browser
[22:18] <Coldfusionstorm> im enabling the removeable drive handler
[22:18] <Coldfusionstorm> and seeing if i can fix it like that
[22:18] <Mamarok> right click on it and choose "Hide"
[22:19] <Coldfusionstorm> i have done that before
[22:19] <Coldfusionstorm> and i came again
[22:19] <Coldfusionstorm> also
[22:19] <Coldfusionstorm> it needs to not be mounted
[22:20] <Coldfusionstorm> well, it seems to list my system drive
[22:20] <Mamarok> hm, that would be a bug, then, you should file it against Dolphin on bugs.kde.org
[22:20] <Coldfusionstorm> well, BRB restarting to see if my system break
[22:20] <Coldfusionstorm> yeah!
[22:23] <afdg> okaay
[22:23] <afdg> so
[22:24] <afdg> that did not work
[22:24] <afdg> and
[22:24] <afdg> what happend to dolphin
[22:24] <afdg> God damnit
[22:24] <afdg> effing
[22:24] <afdg> ghost
[22:24] <afdg> command
[22:24] <Coldfusionstorm> Alright
[22:24] <Mamarok> clodplease do not swear in this channel
[22:25] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: ^
[22:25] <Coldfusionstorm> nono
[22:26] <Coldfusionstorm> i swear i might become a UI designer because.. alright i need a break
[22:26] <Coldfusionstorm> brb
[22:33] <Coldfusionstorm> that was weird
[22:36] <Coldfusionstorm> that was weird, Dolphin suddenly showed a different UI
[22:38] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: really? That sounds weird, never seen something like that
[22:40] <Coldfusionstorm> kwin crashed now
[22:40] <Coldfusionstorm> brb i need to restart
[22:42] <Coldfusionstorm> That was supreodd
[22:42] <Coldfusionstorm> :/
[22:42] <Coldfusionstorm> it's changed again
[22:42] <Coldfusionstorm> what is this soccery!
[22:42] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: you must have tweaked your system in a very strange way, I haven't seen a kwin crash in ages
[22:43] <Mamarok> if you are really using Kubuntu 14.10, then yomething is very wrong on your side
[22:43] <Mamarok> something*
[22:43] <Mamarok> do you have a screenshot?
[22:44] <Coldfusionstorm> http://imagebin.ca/v/1sSrm6mWcARd
[22:44] <Coldfusionstorm> when i restart
[22:44] <Coldfusionstorm> it opens the last sessions filemanager
[22:44] <Coldfusionstorm> except
[22:44] <Coldfusionstorm> it looks entirely different
[22:44] <Coldfusionstorm> as from another version
[22:44] <Coldfusionstorm> the right side is my normal filemanager
[22:44] <Mamarok> which is not Dolphin
[22:45] <Coldfusionstorm> manually opening Dolphin opens op the right side version
[22:45] <Coldfusionstorm> it is named dolphin
[22:45] <Coldfusionstorm> then what is it?
[22:45] <Mamarok> that on the left is not dolphin, definitely not
[22:45] <Coldfusionstorm> oh
[22:45] <Coldfusionstorm> yeha
[22:45] <Coldfusionstorm> what is it?
[22:46] <Mamarok> right click on it, try to activate the menu bar with Ctrl+M
[22:46] <Coldfusionstorm> i found a about it
[22:46] <Coldfusionstorm> it's just called "files"
[22:46] <Mamarok> no idea where that comes from, you also have Unity isntalled?
[22:47] <Mamarok> maybe from there
[22:47] <Mamarok> it's not KDE
[22:47] <Coldfusionstorm> http://imagebin.ca/v/1sSsp395TxFK
[22:47] <Coldfusionstorm> hh
[22:47] <Coldfusionstorm> this KDE is installed on top of a Ubuntu installation
[22:47] <Coldfusionstorm> i did a apt-get autoclean
[22:47] <Coldfusionstorm> but aprantly it did ont clean everything
[22:48] <Mamarok> that thing is not a KDE application, it doesn't fit
[22:48] <Coldfusionstorm> i think it's part of unity
[22:48] <Coldfusionstorm> properly
[22:48] <Mamarok> well, you can run Unity applications on KDE, it's just not very suited, as the theming is wrong
[22:49] <Mamarok> just close it
[22:49] <Coldfusionstorm> yeah properly the best
[22:50] <Coldfusionstorm> jesus just touching the defualt ubuntu stuff almost gave me a headache
[22:50] <Coldfusionstorm> KDE is just so muc better than any other desktop manager
[22:50] <NoOova> Hi guys!
[22:50] <NoOova> How to improve fonts in plasma 5.2?
[22:50] <NoOova> Fonts rendering is sharpness
[22:51] <NoOova> In gnome i use infinality. Here it works in half pf situations
[22:51] <Mamarok> NoOova: plasma 5.2 is not released yet... not even beta
[22:51] <Mamarok> in Kubuntu that is
[22:52] <NoOova> Maybe anobidy know how to fix that
[22:55] <soee> NoOova: fx what exactly ? Make them smoother ?
[22:55] <NoOova> No. I could not say what is wrong
[22:55] <NoOova> make fonts looks like better than now
[22:56] <soee> that says nothing, we dont know how they look now :D
[22:56] <NoOova> One moment =)
[23:01] <NoOova> http://img.ctrlv.in/img/15/02/21/54e90e419a0df.png
[23:02] <Mamarok> hm, how about using a different font? or a different IRC client? that doesn't look very Plasma related
[23:03] <soee> but hey Its about konsole font ?
[23:03] <NoOova> Maybe i want to smoother rendering, maybe more thickness
[23:03] <NoOova> Not only. But Firefox has nice fonts
[23:04] <Mamarok> use light gray instead of white, and you are comparing apples with oranges, Firefox is neither console nor is it plasma based
[23:04] <soee> NoOova: lay with antialiasing in System Settings
[23:04] <soee> *play
[23:05] <soee> also im using atm Driod font not Oxygen
[23:05] <Mamarok> I use Droid as well, but that doesn't extend to the console AFAIK, did you check?
[23:05] <Mamarok> GUI fonts are different to console ones
[23:07] <soee> true, NoOovaare you using some custom profile ?
[23:07] <NoOova> profile in Konsole?
[23:08] <soee> NoOova: yes, you can edit prfoiles, create new, switch them etc.
[23:08] <soee> sheck properties in menu
[23:08] <soee> NoOova: this is how fonts are rendered for me on Plasma 5 http://wstaw.org/m/2015/02/22/worksace9.png
[23:09] <Mamarok> soee: how does it look in konsole?
[23:10] <NoOova> soee: your fonts are beautiful
[23:10] <NoOova> they are clean
[23:11] <Mamarok> well, its an application, not the konsole
[23:11] <Mamarok> usually the sharpness in the konsole, espeically whe using white on black is the conttrast, so use light gray isntead of white
[23:11] <NoOova> How to setup same decoration of a windows?
[23:11] <NoOova> i have a similar but bigger
[23:12] <Mamarok> that is actually ahint I got from Nuno wo is a graphic designer
[23:12] <soee> Mamarok: konsole uses Oxygen mono: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/02/22/worksace10.png
[23:13] <soee> NoOova: in System Settings you can et various options for window decorations
[23:14] <Mamarok> hm, I set mine to Droid as well, and everything looks quite sharp
[23:14] <Mamarok> but as I said, never use whit on black, but light gray on black, better contrast ratio, no white bleeding
[23:14] <Mamarok> soee: yours does look like light gray on black as well
[23:15] <soee> Mamarok: i think it is defautl profile, but im not 100% sure as i did some changes when we had problems with konsole fw weeks ago
[23:15] <Mamarok> NoOova: your konsole font is not Droid anyway, and it is white
[23:16] <soee> NoOova: also for fonts i have antialiasing enabled : RGB + light (third option on the list)
[23:17] <soee> all fonts set to Droid 9px except second option (mono wher ei  have Oxygen mono) and im using 125 DPI on my laptop
[23:18] <NoOova> Mamarok: now i set Ubuntu mono for terminal
[23:20] <Coldfusionstorm> Hi, is there a way to make the desktop to show icons
[23:20] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: you mean like Windows?
[23:20] <Coldfusionstorm> yes
[23:21] <Mamarok> in the menu, right click on the application and choose "Add to Desktop"
[23:21] <Coldfusionstorm> wich menu?
[23:22] <Mamarok> how many Menues do you have on the panel, bottom left?
[23:23] <Coldfusionstorm> erm
[23:23] <Coldfusionstorm> 2?
[23:23] <soee> *probably change desktop type to Folder ? and point it ot Desktop in your home folder for example, there you can store fodlers or shortcuts (icons) to apps?
[23:23] <Coldfusionstorm> no not folder
[23:23] <Coldfusionstorm> that covers the wallpaper
[23:23] <Coldfusionstorm> Mamarok, what menu, im alittle lost here
[23:23] <Mamarok> the K icon
[23:24] <Coldfusionstorm> ahh
[23:24] <Coldfusionstorm> the kickoff luncher
[23:25] <soee> im not sure what you are trying to do than :D
[23:25] <Mamarok> well, it used to be called the menu button for years, and it shows you a menu
[23:25] <Coldfusionstorm> menu editor?
[23:25] <NoOova> http://wstaw.org/m/2015/02/22/Untitled.png
[23:25] <NoOova> How do you think - rendering is a same or different?
[23:26] <soee> NoOova: better imo
[23:26] <Mamarok> same, but you still use white, really, try to change the font color to light gray, it'd worth it
[23:26] <Mamarok> it's*
[23:27] <Coldfusionstorm> im still confused
[23:27] <Coldfusionstorm> what menu and what applicatoin
[23:27] <Coldfusionstorm> i can't find "add to desktop"
[23:28] <Coldfusionstorm> oh
[23:28] <Coldfusionstorm> i get it now
[23:28] <Coldfusionstorm> lol
[23:28] <Mamarok> right click, didn't I say so?
[23:28] <Coldfusionstorm> i tought i had to add a desktop mode or something like that
[23:29] <Coldfusionstorm> ehh
[23:29] <Coldfusionstorm> but
[23:29] <Coldfusionstorm> this is not even a folder
[23:30] <Mamarok> er, you said you didn't want a folder
[23:30] <Coldfusionstorm> true
[23:30] <Coldfusionstorm> i meant
[23:31] <Coldfusionstorm> i don't like the grey box the folder gives
[23:31] <Coldfusionstorm> i mean this default way KDE handles desktop i don't really like that
[23:32] <NoOova> http://wstaw.org/m/2015/02/22/Untitled1.png
[23:32] <NoOova> In gnome-terminal rendering is thicker...
[23:33] <Mamarok> Coldfusionstorm: well, you can change it to the way you want it to look
[23:33] <Coldfusionstorm> alright so i add the folder
[23:33] <Coldfusionstorm> set it to show folder desktop
[23:33] <Coldfusionstorm> and how do i get of the wigdet greybox
[23:34] <soee> Coldfusionstorm: no no :)
[23:34] <soee> right click on desktop and open Desktop settings
[23:35] <soee> there you should be able to set Layout to Fodler or something
[23:35] <bobert5432> Hi all. I'm having an issue and was hoping somone could help. I've got an HP sd320a portable harddrive. When I plug it in i can feel it spin up and the light on it blinks, but kubuntu wont recognize it. I tried googling to see if i could find out anything, but all the results only talk about installing kubuntu onto a harddrive. Anyone know why my computer wont see this HP?
[23:35] <soee> that allows you to point to some folder and whle desktop behaves like folder view
[23:36] <Coldfusionstorm> Ohh, soee , Thank you Magnificent!
[23:36] <Coldfusionstorm> and thanks for helping me too Mamarok
[23:38] <soee> bobert5432: i had never used any device liek thant, wont help here but it is worth trying to ask on #ubuntu
[23:39] <Coldfusionstorm> Thanks a mega ton soee :)
[23:39] <Mamarok> seems like google finds a lot of problems with that drive, even on windows
[23:39] <soee> Coldfusionstorm: np, enjoy Kubuntu
[23:40] <Coldfusionstorm> thanks :)
[23:40] <Coldfusionstorm> love it!
[23:51] <bobert5432> Hi all. I'm having an issue and was hoping somone could help. I've got an HP sd320a portable harddrive. When I plug it in i can feel it spin up and the light on it blinks, but kubuntu wont recognize it. I tried googling to see if i could find out anything, but all the results only talk about installing kubuntu onto a harddrive. Anyone know why my computer wont see this HP?


[00:04] <RAOF> Why hello, odd bug.
[00:05] <RAOF> Why isn't disconnect() being responded to?
[00:07] <RAOF> Oh, goodie. It's somehow a race?
[00:11] <RAOF> AAAaaaah.
[00:13] <RAOF> It's a race between mir_render_surface_release and mir_connection_release.
[01:27] <RAOF> Hm.
[01:27] <RAOF> Why do we ignore logical_width and logical_height for bufferstreams in mir_surface_spec_add_render_surface?
[01:27]  * duflu shrugs
[01:29] <RAOF> Ah.
[01:29] <RAOF> The reason why the tests don't *currently* deadlock in that race is because they race allocate_buffer instead.
[01:39] <duflu> RAOF: I think I'm overallocated for features this cycle. Do you want to take one of my major items off my hands?
[01:39] <RAOF> duflu: Whatta ya got?
[01:40] <duflu> (fbdev + osmesa || SimpleDRM kernel work)
[01:40] <duflu> The first one is just a Mir driver
[01:46] <RAOF> The second one is driving an already roughly-agreed-to patch through lkml.
[01:49] <duflu> Indeed, but it's been driving for a few years
[01:49] <duflu> Not sure how long to wait
[01:49] <duflu> Perhaps if we do nothing the feature will exist :)
[01:50] <RAOF> Patch set v5 got submitted by a drm guy in September.
[01:50] <duflu> To me fbdev would be fun to learn driver development. And it would work on any kernel... assuming osmesa works
[01:50] <duflu> But that's just me
[01:51] <RAOF> Why would fbdev involve learning driver development?
[01:52] <duflu> RAOF: Mir driver development
[01:52] <RAOF> Ah, right.
[01:53] <duflu> I know the basics... I was building something similar back in the early 90s before I got distracted
[01:56] <duflu> RAOF: I just figured you know all the parts. If we were to build a fallback driver to solve all the fallback problems before 17.04 you would be able to do it
[01:57] <duflu> And working in any VM out of the box would be awesome
[01:58] <duflu> It's assigned to me, but before then I need to finish client-side vsync and probably now do GL-based display cloning
[01:58] <duflu> So there's a reasonable risk I won't have all three features done before 17.04
[01:59] <RAOF> Seems reasonable.
[01:59] <RAOF> I'll see where SimpleDRM is at.
[01:59] <RAOF> Because if it's done, that's the cheapest option :)
[02:05] <RAOF> And, indeed, looks like simpledrm has landed.
[02:11] <duflu> Not in Linus' tree. Which one comes before that for DRM work?
[02:12] <RAOF> In whatever tree all the patches to drm-devel are applied to.
[02:12] <RAOF> I'm actually not sure what tree that is.
[02:14] <duflu> You always need to know who the second in command is, per component
[02:14] <duflu> The kernel docs say who
[02:18] <RAOF> Yeah, it's drm-misc. I thought so.
[02:18] <RAOF> Can't see it in there, though.
[02:20] <RAOF> Which is odd, because I see unrelated patches that patch simpledrm.
[03:36] <RAOF> Hey, cool! rr will now record mir_acceptance_tests!
[03:43] <duflu> And I thought Unix already took all the two letter names
[06:04] <duflu> RAOF: Is it intentional or incidental that streams use SurfaceIDs and SurfaceObservers?
[06:04] <RAOF> Incidental, mostly.
[06:04] <duflu> Oh I see. We started with just surface and it morphed incrementally into streams
[06:05] <RAOF> For the former, it might have made sense to have just a single “object ID” namespace.
[06:05] <RAOF> For the latter, SurfaceObserver basically makes sense with Streams, too. :)
[06:05] <duflu> Indeed
[17:44] <applemuncy_1> Greetings : )  Is this the right place to ask about mir_android_diagnostic testing and failures?
[17:58] <greyback> applemuncy_1: yep


[20:54] <arraybolt3> https://www.zdnet.com/article/patch-now-serious-linux-kernel-security-hole-uncovered/ I assume this is already patched in Ubuntu?
[22:21] <jjohansen> arraybolt3: yes this was fixed in our kernels in 5.15.0-53.59
[22:22] <jjohansen> and 5.19.0-16.16 for kinetic
[22:23] <jjohansen> this issue wasn't assigned a CVE until today so you won't find it in the CVE tracker just yet
[23:27] <JackFrost> sarnold: Merry Christmas, mate!


[10:01] <LtWorf> why require authentication to join this channel?
[10:01] <LtWorf> "authentication", the nickserver thing
[10:44] <alkisg> LtWorf: because of spam bots
[10:52] <LtWorf> i see
[10:55] <apw> they tend to flip that status back and forth depending how much spam there is
[13:28] <melodie> hi
[13:31] <melodie> one of our LUG's users meet with an issue with the system freeze while using it, with LO, with FF. She is a newbie however she managed to send a pic and a dmesg after a reboot with sysrq. kernel version : https://framapic.org/RTFfSMQExMex/nZ06GcR3LSZo.png and dmesg : https://paste.ubuntu.com/26494950/ - question : is there another kernel she could install to solve this issue? If yes which one?
[13:36] <LtWorf> i don't think a screenshot and a dmesg after a reboot are particularly useful
[13:38] <alkisg> melodie: I found 4.13 kernel highly problematic, and we switched a lot of schools here to 4.4, which appears a lot more stable
[13:39] <alkisg> apt install linux-generic => installs kernel 4.4, but she would need to manually select it from grub's advanced options, and see if it's more stable, and remove 4.13 if it is
[13:41] <melodie> alkisg I transmit on our ml, thanks
[13:41] <alkisg> np


[03:00] <eipi10> is having bad reallocated sectors a big deal?
[03:06] <eipi10> heard of any false positives with 14.04?
[11:14] <cimbakahn> I am having a major problem with Lubuntu.  See here ---->  https://paste.teknik.io/2444
[11:15] <cimbakahn> I have no idea what to do about this.  All suggestions will be appreciated.
[11:16] <bioterror> really?
[11:16] <bioterror> lubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[11:16] <bioterror> it can be removed
[11:16] <bioterror> it's mainly used to pull in all the neccessary packages needed for the "whole" Lubuntu experience
[11:18] <cimbakahn> But if 	lubuntu-desktop is removed it will take out lubuntu-core with it!
[11:18] <bioterror> yeah
[11:19] <bioterror> lubuntu-core is used when installing the basic lubuntu packages
[11:19] <cimbakahn> If it takes out the core, i will have a broken system, correct?
[11:20] <bioterror> it's just a package that has "few" dependencies
[18:49] <Vlado2> Hi, i have created a trouble ticket #1516616 on launchpad about a bug that prevents me to install lubuntu, but even after several weeks nobody gives a ... about that bug, any idea how to improve that bug report to attract some dev?
[18:52] <wxl> bug 1516616
[18:53] <wxl> Vlado2: i must say your bug is terribly confusing as it seems to relate to many problems, not just one.
[18:56] <Vlado2> i guess i can remove the sentence that 14,04 didn't recognize my wifi card as it is not related
[18:56] <wxl> and the other ones afterwards? as they suggest you CAN boot
[18:57] <Vlado2> i can boot only 14.04
[18:57] <Vlado2> 15.10 and xenial early builds can't boot
[18:58] <wxl> can't boot or take a long time to boot?
[18:59] <Vlado2> the bootup process is extremely slow, and it will eventually crash due to multiple errors during bootup (as mentioned in the bug report, like failed to insert module kdbus, failed to star load kernel modules)
[18:59] <wxl> these don't seem to be a problem based on testing. you say you checked the md5sum *AND* checked the media at the grub screen?
[19:00] <wxl> aww you're so mexican
[19:00] <Vlado2> yes, i checked the media at the menu
[19:01] <Vlado2> i beg you pardon!
[19:01] <wxl> ooops! wrong channel!!!!!
[19:01] <wxl> but were i to have directed that at you, don't take offense, as mexicans are very nice :)
[19:01] <wxl> anyways, did you check the md5 BEFORE you booted?
[19:02] <Vlado2> yes i did
[19:02] <wxl> that is utterly bizarre
[19:02] <wxl> afaik no testing has resulted in similar errors
[19:03] <wxl> have you tried different media? maybe usb rather than dvd?
[19:03] <Vlado2> after booting a menu shows up... install lubuntu, try Live, check CD and mem test
[19:03] <wxl> and you did "check CD." but did you check the md5 of the .iso image before burning it?
[19:04] <Vlado2> the medium is OK, i used the same one to try 14.04 and xenial early build
[19:05] <Vlado2> i checked everything, verified sha256 of the iso, check pgp signature of the sha256, then verification after burning and then check cd from the lubuntu menu
[19:05] <wxl> ok, did you try a different media?
[19:06] <Vlado2> no, but from that same media 14.04 worked
[19:06] <wxl> that's irrelevant
[19:06] <Vlado2> i have troubles beleiveing in that, why would then the CD check from lubuntu menu came as OK
[19:06] <Vlado2> ?
[19:07] <wxl> Vlado2: well, by the same logic, why would other people's tests succeed?
[19:07] <Vlado2> different HW?
[19:07] <wxl> …where yours failed
[19:07] <wxl> right
[19:07] <wxl> and that's what i'm suggesting
[19:07] <wxl> try different hardware (media)
[19:07] <Vlado2> did anyone tried Pentium M dothan?
[19:08] <Vlado2> i already tried to boot 15.10 on different machine and it booted just fine, i just came to different problem
[19:08] <Vlado2> bug #1516605
[19:09] <wxl> oh pentium m!
[19:09] <wxl> pentium m may be problematic. did you forcepae?
[19:10] <wxl> !pae | Vlado2
[19:11] <Vlado2> even on i386 builds???
[19:11] <wxl> yuuup.
[19:12] <Vlado2> let me try that, i'll get back to you in a minute...
[19:12] <Vlado2> more like 30 minutes... :)
[19:40] <Guest2> 14.04.3   Why is i get this message when i look for updates ? Failed to download repository information
[19:42] <wxl> Guest2: likely either an issue contacting the server or a general networking/internet issue
[19:43] <Guest2> Sometimes i get this message.
[19:43] <wxl> Guest2: do you have a connection to the internet at those times?
[19:44] <Guest2> Yes..
[19:45] <Guest2> Is this about the same problem ?   http://itsfoss.com/failed-to-download-repository-information-ubuntu-13-04/
[19:45] <wxl> Guest2: and can you give me the entirety of the output including the error in a pastebin?
[19:46] <wxl> Guest2: that may be the same problem, it might not. the totality of the output will tell us. either way, i'll help you fix it and help you learn how to read those errors to solve the problem youself in the future. ;)
[19:49] <Guest2> I am on another computer (windows) here and just finnish update the Lubuntu. I run it over again and then it works.. I dont have the output longer.
[19:49] <Guest2> It is true we learn when we read around.
[19:49] <wxl> Guest2: then it's likely a network issue. sometimes servers go down temporarily. little can be done to resolve that.
[19:50] <Guest2> Is Lubuntu update VLC and other programs also when there is any new not only firefox ?
[19:51] <wxl> Guest2: if you run an update, it will update any programs that have new versions for the current version of the operating system.
[20:29] <umdx> hi, how do i install the graphic driver for Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[20:30] <wxl> umdx: what makes you think you need it?
[20:30] <epictetus> i just installed the alpha/beta test version of lubuntu (16.04 opr whatever) and my brand-new intel Broadwell laptop had nice 3d support out of the box
[20:30] <epictetus> like intel-DRI etc for OpenGL was all automatically working
[20:30] <umdx> wxl i have the resolution but i lag watching videos
[20:30] <umdx> wxl and i tried chromium and Ff
[20:30] <epictetus> umdx: what kind of videos and what software are you using
[20:30] <epictetus> youtube?
[20:31] <umdx> twitch tv
[20:31] <wxl> umdx: do you have the same problems with static videos?
[20:31] <wxl> …cuz if not, the problem is likely not your drivers
[20:31] <umdx> no, only when watching games
[20:31] <epictetus> what CPU
[20:31] <umdx> Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[20:31] <epictetus> twitch ads might just be using too much CPU
[20:31] <umdx> it doesnt lag on windows tho
[20:31] <epictetus> especially if it's using flash
[20:31] <epictetus> flash on linux can be waaay laggier / crashier / slower than windows even with Chrome
[20:32] <wxl> technically, adobe flash isn't even supported on linux.
[20:32] <epictetus> maybe try an ad blocker / flash blocker that lets you block everything except the video screen?
[20:32] <umdx> i have ad block on
[20:32] <epictetus> what CPU though
[20:32] <umdx> nvm
[20:32] <umdx> it lags only when i have it on source
[20:33] <umdx> me
[20:33] <umdx> meh
[20:33] <epictetus> hehe
[20:33] <umdx> what  DE you guys use
[20:33] <epictetus> lxdw
[20:33] <epictetus> lxde
[20:34] <umdx> i installed i3 and was woindering something about the configs
[20:34] <wxl> that's what lubuntu is all about after all
[20:34] <umdx> for some reason it explodes when i try to copy someones style
[20:34] <wxl> ianorlin: Chicken_Wrap: don't you guys use i3 with lxde?
[20:35] <umdx> im thinking of changing pcmanfm
[20:35] <umdx> as well
[20:35] <umdx> probably installing ranger
[20:36] <Vlado2> wxl: back to that Petium M problem
[20:36] <Vlado2> forcing pae didn't help
[20:37] <wxl> Vlado2: then i'd try a usb and/or a different dvd and see if you can replicate
[20:37] <Vlado2> and btw. that problem mentioned on that web page affects only Banias cores, not Dothan as i have in laptop
[20:37] <wxl> Vlado2: barring that problem, it would be interesting to see if the same problem exists with other flavors like xubuntu, as otherwise it's not a lubuntu problem so much as an ubuntu one
[20:38] <Vlado2> well, that laptop booted just fine 14.04 from that same DVD drive and DVD medium (i use DVD+RW)
[20:41] <Vlado2> i can try ubuntu, but that will probably be the same story as Lubuntu
[20:44] <Vlado2> and btw. in the command line there are three dashes, not two as in that article


[08:14] <dholbach> good morning
[15:00] <mhall119> czajkowski: you're so anti-awesome
[15:00] <czajkowski> mhall119: yup loads of other words in the english language that convey things a lot better
[15:01] <czajkowski> plus I'm not 12 and watch cartoons :)
[15:01] <mhall119> there's nothing more awesome than 'awesome' though
[15:01] <czajkowski> there is!
[15:01] <czajkowski> manyother words but not going into this again
[15:01] <czajkowski> it;s an over used word
[15:03]  * mhall119 bookmarks http://thesaurus.com/browse/awesome for future conversations
[16:37] <bimanji23> hi
[23:47] <dedicated1> hi there
[23:52] <dedicated1> I might want to set up a local jam anytime soon but I can only find a place to set up a global jam, are there differences or are they the same?
[23:56] <pleia2> hi dedicated1, a global jam is a local event that happens at the same time as other jams
[23:57] <dedicated1> ahh now that clears some things :)
[23:57] <dedicated1> but am i right that there's no way to set up a local jam, only a global one?
[23:58] <pleia2> if you want it to be this weekend you use the global jam category
[23:58] <pleia2> you could do just some local get together for hacking on Ubuntu at any time, but that would be just a regular team event, not part of a specific global event
[23:59] <pleia2> there is no real "generic jam" category
[23:59] <dedicated1> yes I'd like to organise a regular team event, and hacking ubuntu? xD
[23:59] <pleia2> working on Ubuntu :)
[23:59] <dedicated1> haha
[23:59] <dedicated1> I'll remember that


[09:48] <igor_> Hi, I need to replace XP with Lubuntu on a very old pc with a 1GB of ram. It's working fine, but it is randomly freezing with a lines on the screen. Then, I need to restart whole PC. Can someone help me with that?
[10:25] <hateball> not now that you left, no :/
[10:30] <Laurenzo> lubuntu 16.04 LTS seems unstable
[16:38] <james1138> Hello all. Can I ask for help? For some unknown reason - when I go into Synaptic Package Manager and click on "Repositories" - nothing happens.
[16:44] <wxl> james1138: do you have problems using apt-get?
[16:47] <james1138> nope
[16:47] <wxl> james1138: so you can update/upgrade just fine?
[16:48] <james1138> Yes wxl. The only thing I can think maybe the problem was installing ICECAT browser... which may added Trisquel PPA/dependiences.
[16:51] <wxl> james1138: which synaptics should have no problem with. you might try reinstalling it
[16:52] <wxl> james1138: the other thing you can try to do is to run synaptic on the command line and see if it gives you any more obvious errors
[16:53] <james1138> Starting Synaptic is no problem - just seeing the repositories or adding new PPA appears the issue.
[16:53] <wxl> james1138: that's what i'm saying to diagnose. any program run on the command line should give you additional output for debugging purposezx
[16:53] <wxl> s/zx/s
[16:56] <james1138> WARNING:root:could not open file '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[16:56] <james1138> Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:56] <james1138>  File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in <module>
[16:56] <james1138> app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, options=options, file=file)
[16:57] <james1138> app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, options=options, file=file)
[16:57] <james1138> sorry - File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py", line 98, in __init__
[16:57] <james1138> SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir)
[16:58] <james1138> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 109, in __init__
[16:58] <james1138> self.reload_sourceslist()
[16:58] <james1138> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 599, in reload_sourceslist
[16:58] <wxl> ok
[16:58] <wxl> got it :)
[16:58] <james1138> There is a little more...
[16:58] <wxl> don't worry about it
[16:59] <james1138> ok... sorry
[16:59] <wxl> fyi:
[16:59] <wxl> !pastebin
[16:59] <wxl> use that to do `stat /etc/apt/sources.list`
[16:59] <james1138> ahhh
[17:00] <james1138> Me rookie... <frown>
[17:00] <wxl> all good
[17:04] <james1138> <crossing fingers and toes> I hope the answer does not involved backup and resintall everything.
[17:04] <wxl> it shouldn't
[17:13] <wxl> james1138: you got that pastebin for me?
[17:14] <james1138> Oh... sorry. stepped away... working on it right now...
[17:14] <wxl> np take your time. just wanted to make sure you weren't forgotten :)
[17:15] <james1138> Done. It is asking "download as text" - is that for me or you?
[17:16] <wxl> james1138: um. all i was saying is copy the result of `stat /etc/apt/sources.list` and paste them into pastebin and then put the url here
[17:17] <james1138> stat: cannot stat ‘/etc/apt/sources.list’: No such file or directory
[17:17] <wxl> oh!
[17:17] <wxl> THAT is a problem
[17:17] <wxl> it means that your repos are gone
[17:17] <wxl> what version are you running?
[17:18] <james1138> 14.04.4 kernal 4.5.2
[17:18] <wxl> k lemme see what i can figure out here
[17:19] <james1138> Gone?! This old dog messed up big time!
[17:20] <wxl> hm
[17:20] <wxl> i have a theory
[17:20] <james1138> Anyway to rebuild file?
[17:20] <wxl> first, create the file with `sudo touch /etc/apt/sources.list`
[17:21] <wxl> then reinstall apt with `sudo apt-get --reinstall install apt`
[17:21] <wxl> then look to see if there's anything in /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:21] <wxl> you should have default stuff in there
[17:22] <james1138> Reinstallation of apt is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[17:22] <wxl> ok
[17:22] <wxl> let's try one other thing
[17:23] <wxl> `sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt`
[17:23] <james1138> File is there but empty
[17:23] <james1138> Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.19-0ubuntu6.8) ...
[17:25] <james1138> james1138@james1138-ThinkPad-T43:~$
[17:25] <wxl> k
[17:25] <wxl> now is there anything in the file?
[17:27] <wxl> if not, i have another solution. you should have a saved version of it. this should fix it: `sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list.save /etc/apt/sources.list`
[17:27] <james1138> Sources.lst file is still empty but sources.d folder has stuff in it.
[17:28] <james1138> cp: cannot stat ‘/etc/apt/sources.list.save’: No such file or directory
[17:28] <wxl> oh jeez what did you do :)
[17:29] <wxl> there's also this idea: http://askubuntu.com/a/192388
[17:32] <james1138> Giving that a try
[17:47] <james1138> Still nothing but Y PPA Manager is showing repositories
[18:18] <swift110> hey
[18:25] <aladiah> After  a few Lubuntu 15.10 updates and a long term with out using pc, my dual boot laptop lubuntu 15.10/windows 10, keyboard dont work on login screen to insert password. On windows work perfectly. I tryed a usb lubuntu live persistent, but is same thing keyboard dont work.
[18:45] <swift110> hey al
[18:45] <swift110> anyone got a thinkpad here?
[18:51] <bioterror> I have few
[18:53] <swift110> which ones bioterror
[18:53] <bioterror> T420, T430 and I can run Lubuntu on USB pendrive on this X250
[18:54] <bioterror> and I have on L540 in my cars trunk :D
[18:54] <bioterror> one
[18:55] <aladiah> no one have same experience before ?
[18:55] <bioterror> aladiah, tried different usb port?
[18:55] <swift110> cool
[18:56] <swift110> I have a T420 which distro do you have on your's?
[18:56] <bioterror> it's one for changing
[18:56] <bioterror> lubuntu runs quite nicely on it
[18:56] <bioterror> s/changing/testing/
[18:58] <bioterror> sorry if my sentences doesnt make much sense, I slept 5 hours last night and just had 12h workday. but do you have anything else on your mind regarding lubuntu and thinkpad series laptops, swift110?
[18:58] <aladiah> bioterror yes i did
[18:59] <aladiah> and i tryed the stck on a different laptop with dualboot as well
[18:59] <swift110> yes
[18:59] <swift110> I have a T420 I plan on waiting for Linux Mint 18 to install linux on here
[18:59] <swift110> I will have completed my two week challenge on windows today lol
[19:00] <bioterror> why wait Mint 18, when you can install Lubuntu 16.04 today
[19:02] <swift110> thats true but I also dont have my ssd yet