[08:42] <bobby_> Zaggynl: i cant check that right now since im at my job, but i get decent frame rates playing WoW in my Ubuntu
[08:42] <fydo> JamieBE: thats nice, but does your sound card *driver* have support for more than 2 channels?
[08:42] <drEAm> no worry rag, neither i :)
[08:42] <Zaggynl> bobby_, ah okay
[08:42] <JamieBE> fydo: 3x3.5 stereo jacks for Front, Rear, Sub/Centre
[08:42] <Ramunas> hey, I'm on edgy, using nv driver with my ge force 6100, whjch tutorial should I use for XGL + Compiz?
[08:42] <jcooke> Gotti, same method as in Dapper?
[08:42] <rag> drEAm, what other thing , only possible sound or more? please
[08:42] <MasseR> Gotti: Hold on, finding it
[08:42] <JamieBE> fydo: How do I check?
[08:43] <fydo> google.com
[08:43] <JamieBE> fydo: As far as I can tell, I am using the default driver.
[08:43] <Gotti> jcooke, not at all...give me a second i'll find your answer
[08:43] <drEAm> i got that problem width 1 mb.... so it is hint... try it...
[08:43] <drEAm> do not know ... rag... now...
[08:43] <MasseR> Gotti: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1684452
[08:43] <jcooke> Gotti, currently in dapper using ndiswrapper
[08:43] <fydo> there isn't a 'default' driver, just as there isn't a 'default' sound card
[08:43] <c0ol> Is it possible to use linux as a network bridge between a wireless device and a non-wireless device? I have this setup using windows XP but for obvious reasons I would prefer this linux computer to do that task.
[08:43] <rag> drEAm, i have a 192 mb ram on one computer, and other 512 mb
[08:44] <JamieBE> fydo: what do you suggest I do?
[08:44] <JamieBE> fydo: My driver is snd-intel8x0,i810_audio
[08:44] <drEAm> 4 this 192 u have u use alternate (u count vga memory) or xubuntu...
[08:44] <Tim90> lexmark z600 driver ?
[08:44] <Gotti> jcooke, you'l' notice that there are two ndiswrappers in the repos in edgy...i believe that you use the ndiswrapper-1.1 .. secondly it will spit out something about a missing ko file...use apt-file to figure out which package contains that file...install that...and use ndisrapper as you would on dapper
[08:45] <Pensacola> are there other kernels available for edgy?
[08:45] <anette_> can someone help me with mounting a lvm-volume??
[08:45] <Gotti> MasseR, looking now...
[08:45] <drEAm> 256mb is min 4 classic install non counting vga memory (onboard if u have)....
[08:45] <jcooke> Gotti, I'll probably just compile from source like I did on Dapper, thanks for confirming though :D
[08:45] <MasseR> Gotti: Thanks :)
[08:45] <GaiaX11> Tim90: Lexmark belongs to the dark side of the power and it will not work under linux. Sell it and buy a HP or Epson
[08:46] <JamieBE> fydo: As I won't be buying a new sound card, will I have to be reverting to Windows?
[08:46] <nathansnook7> artsd is crashing with error of cpu overload
[08:46] <anette_> can someone help me with mounting a lvm-volume??
[08:46] <nathansnook7> anyone offer some help
[08:46] <bobby_> JamieBE: what people here is suggesting is for you to check out your driver documentation to see if your driver supports more than 2 channel, because even if your sound card supports 2 billion channels, software cant access it if your driver cant.
[08:46] <jhaquo> im installing kde (in gnome) and my menus (aplications palces systems and the bar at the bottom screen) froze
[08:46] <JamieBE> fydo: Something I really want to avoid, for so many obvious reasons.
[08:46] <jhaquo> how can i deblock them?
[08:46] <Gotti> jcooke, ... yes source will work nicely...i just never had the patience...:P MasseR, no problem...i've read about this somewhere else on the forums..a solution was provided...let me see if i can find it...as im using wireless i can't tell you off the top of my head how to fix it
[08:47] <drEAm> Anyone from Croatia?
[08:47] <JamieBE> bobby_ I have "googled" snd-intel8x0,i810_audio and it returns no specific matches
[08:47] <fydo> bobby_: exactly
[08:47] <JamieBE> Ill BBS - If anyone has any solutions can they please PM me with them. I would REALLY appreciate help on this. Thanks.
[08:47] <sidewalk> can anyone recommend a tv-viewer for Linux?
[08:47] <jcooke> Gotti, you on a pavilion dv8k ?
[08:48] <MasseR> Gotti: I tried moving the source, but the problem still occurred.. So I'm thinking I did something wrong.
[08:48] <fydo> JamieBE_BBS:  here is the Alsa page on intel sound: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Intel#matrix
[08:48] <MasseR> Gotti: One solution was to install old bcm4400 drivers but I didn't get it to compile
[08:48] <_Brandon_> i've installed acx100 drivers but now i can't see the device with iwconfig/ifconfig
[08:48] <rag> drEAm, pleaes put rag before , please
[08:48] <cpl-tnt44> BRANDON !  I LOVE YOU ! what card do u have ?
[08:49] <cartucho> great xgl and ati are playing very nice ?)
[08:49] <cartucho> :)
[08:49] <cpl-tnt44> Dlink 650+ ?
[08:49] <_Brandon_> 520+
[08:49] <donfilipo> coz_ are you still there?
[08:49] <drEAm> i always do rag, when i talking 2 u :)
[08:49] <cpl-tnt44> is it the same chipset i think
[08:49] <cpl-tnt44> how did u installed the ndiswrapper with that ?
[08:49] <Gotti> jcooke, pavillion zv5000...same hardware
[08:49] <clyrrad> Does anybody know what install switches can be used during install?  Like 'server' or the like?  I want to install the OS with out having to boot the Live CD image first - does anyone know how to do this - or what options are available??
[08:50] <Gotti> MasseR, what was the error at compile time?
[08:50] <fydo> JamieBE_BBS: also ensure you're using an app that supports 5.1 sound to test your card/drivers... I'd personally recommend playing a dvd with mplayer
[08:50] <jokesrus> hello ppl. Has anyone "found" the missing shutdown button from gnome with xgl/beryl ?
[08:50] <MasseR> Gotti: Didn't find sources/headers even though they were there
[08:50] <jcooke> Gotti, you have any trouble with getting the ATI card working as well?
[08:50] <tapas> does ubuntu use hotplug?
[08:50] <_Brandon_> cpl-tnt44: i've not used the ndiswrapper
[08:50] <Electronbeam> Hi there
[08:50] <jcooke> Gotti, with full 3d acceleration rather
[08:51] <rag> drEAm , ok 192 install alternate or xubuntu
[08:51] <D0wn> Is /dev/hdb to read a cd and not burn?
[08:51] <Gotti> jcooke, yeah...but it seems we have different cards. I have an nvidia. sorry :/ ATI's are a royal pain in the royal arse...royally.
[08:51] <Electronbeam> im having an unknown interrupt or fault at EIP error when trying to start the 6.10 live CD? and clues as to how to fix that?
[08:51] <rag> drEAm, thanks a lot
[08:52] <Gotti> MasseR, .... hmm...the kernel sources im assuming?
[08:52] <MasseR> Gotti: Yes
[08:52] <cpl-tnt44> How do i switch betwenn lang in ubuntu ?
[08:52] <cpl-tnt44> How do i switch betwenn lang in ubuntu ? any button combo ?
[08:52] <anette_> can someone help me with mounting a lvm-volume??
[08:52] <Gotti> Masser, that's odd...are you sure all *dev related packages were installed?
[08:52] <donfilipo> coz_ are you still there?
[08:52] <MasseR> Gotti: I think so
[08:53] <fatig>    ???
[08:53] <Gotti> MasseR, double check that...that's usually the problem with those sorts of errors.
[08:53] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: can you type the full message?
[08:53] <MasseR> Gotti: Like what dev packages?
[08:53] <MasseR> It complained about missing linux/config.h and such
[08:53] <Gotti> MasseR, I'd have to see the actual error :P
[08:53] <Electronbeam> yes, i first need to make the error happen again and write it down
[08:53] <Electronbeam> PSUSI, one moment
[08:53] <bobby_> MasseR: probably installing linux-headers ?
[08:54] <MasseR> bobby_: I installed linux-headers
[08:54] <cpl-tnt44> How do i switch betwenn lang in ubuntu ? any button combo ?
[08:54] <D0wn> heh
[08:54] <MasseR> But installing bcm4400 gave me that
[08:54] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: also what kind of hardware are you using?  is it an amd64?
[08:54] <Electronbeam> no.
[08:54] <cheesy> What does this measn: Disk error 20, AX=4200, drive 9F
[08:54] <PSUSI> ok, so you are using the i386 livecd?
[08:54] <Electronbeam> an intel x86 Celeron D
[08:54] <Electronbeam> yes
[08:54] <PSUSI> k
[08:54] <Gotti> MasseR, btw...are you running a 64 bit ubuntu?
[08:55] <mjelva> ubuntu fails at mounting samba shares on startup. i'm able to mount it by bashing 'mount -a' as root. how can i automate this process?
[08:55] <Electronbeam> ill go get the error msg PSUSI
[08:55] <MasseR> Gotti: 32
[08:55] <PSUSI> cheesy: you get that trying to boot?
[08:55] <cheesy> yes
[08:55] <Gotti> MasseR, okay...just checking...64bit always fubars things...i though that might be it...
[08:55] <cheesy> to boot with the cd
[08:55] <moolcool> is the only diffrence between kde and gnome the interface? or do you get diffrent function?
[08:55] <TeemuR> hi Im using dapper how can I update my Firefox 1.5.7 to 2.0?
[08:56] <Zaggynl> bobby_, do you have Fast Writes enabled?
[08:56] <moolcool> test
[08:56] <PSUSI> cheesy: trying to boot from the cd you get that?  hrm... is this before you get the boot menu or after?
[08:56] <cheesy> after
[08:56] <Maggotin> Hello
[08:56] <MasseR> Gotti: Hold on I'll give you the error
[08:56] <MasseR> !pastebin
[08:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:56] <PSUSI> cheesy: try choosing the disk test option from the menu
[08:56] <cheesy> ok
[08:56] <Maggotin> I have a realtek HD audio sound card, how can I get the sound working on ubuntu?
[08:56] <cpl-tnt44> anyone knows how i change between hebrew and english keyboard in ubuntu ?
[08:56] <PSUSI> cheesy: but it sounds like either the drive or the disk are damaged
[08:57] <Gotti> Maggotin, ...you ever fix that Compiz Xserver bug?
[08:57] <cheesy> thx PSUSI
[08:57] <MasseR> Gotti: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29422/
[08:57] <gnu2it2> why is there not any webmin for edgy on amd64?
[08:57] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows howto get Fast Writes enabled? it is enabled in my BIOS, but in Ubuntu it won't be enabled :(
[08:57] <PSUSI> cheesy: if you have another system you can try the disk in, if it works there, but not in this one, then try swapping the cdrom drives cause that one looks to be busted
[08:58] <Maggotin> Yep gotti :D
[08:58] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: Unknown interrupt of fault in 00000060 c01002b1 000002b0
[08:58] <ianmacgregor> !webmin > gnu2it2
[08:58] <Zaggynl> !fastwrites
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fastwrites - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <Maggotin> Fixed everything, and now I have xgl+beryl working :D
[08:58] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: hrm... and what do you see before that?
[08:58] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: loading linux kernel dialog
[08:58] <TeemuR> hi Im using dapper how can I update my Firefox 1.5.7 to 2.0?
[08:58] <cpl-tnt44> anyone knows how i change between hebrew and english keyboard in ubuntu ?
[08:59] <Gotti> MasseR, /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18mykernel ... why is the "mykernel" there? Anyway...try simlinking the actual kernel sources dir to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18mykernel
[08:59] <donfilipo> coz_ are you still there?
[08:59] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: ok... add the nosplash boot option and see what you get
[09:00] <MasseR> Gotti: Because I've compiled multiple kernels
[09:00] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: im a noobie when it comes to linux, how exactly do i do that?
[09:00] <Gotti> Maggotin, glad to hear it! XGL/Beryl is the one thing I miss after switching to fluxbox...but a worthit sacrifice
[09:00] <Maggotin> :D
[09:00] <Maggotin> Now I just need to get the sound working
[09:00] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: iirc there is a prompt on the livecd boot process that says press some key ( F4 or something ) for advanced options
[09:01] <jjazz> I am trying to playback a DVD.  In both xine and vlc, I get audio but the video is replaced by a bright blue screen.  No video errors are displayed.  Anybody know how to fix that?
[09:01] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: it will then prompt you to enter kernel command line parameters.... type "nosplash" and hit enter
[09:01] <Electronbeam> ok
[09:01] <Gotti> MasseR, ah...okay...just never seen that before...and these errors continue? Whats the last thing she spits out?
[09:01] <teclo-> Hello, I have upgraded to edgy. Everything is working except that when I install the proprietary nvidia kernel drivers, I get the following error in /var/log/nvidia-installer.log:    /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: not found
[09:01] <D0wn> Is /dev/hdb to read a cd and not burn?
[09:01] <teclo->    make[3] : *** [__modpost]  Error 127
[09:01] <MasseR> Gotti: Wait a minute :)
[09:01] <TeemuR> jjazz: have you installed the dvd codec?
[09:01] <Gotti> MasseR, alrighty
[09:02] <jjazz> TeemuR: I believe I have played DVDs on this box before.  What package is the DVD codec?
[09:02] <MasseR> Gotti: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29423/
[09:02] <TeemuR> jjazz:it's the libdvdcss2
[09:03] <cheeseruler> windows just pwns
[09:03] <jjazz> TeemuR: That's installed, yes.
[09:03] <cheeseruler> saves me lotsa time
[09:03] <henry_> hi does anyone here use vmoviedb?
[09:04] <VividHazE> QUESTION: How do I alter my port settings to allow aMSN to send my webcam feed?
[09:04] <TeemuR> jjazz: that's really wierd it should play then
[09:04] <cheeseruler> just install windows
[09:04] <cheeseruler> then ur cam works 100%
[09:04] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: same EIP error
[09:04] <glitch-> cannot connect to wifi network (I got double boot notebook, windows wifi works fine) using Dapper
[09:04] <Gotti> MasseR, ... i gotta say man...this isn't anything i've seen before...have you gone back to dapper in the meantime? i suggest filing a bug with the devs and waiting for them...
[09:04] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: EVen when i tried the nosplash option
[09:04] <cheesy> PSUSI: doesn't do the test...same error
[09:04] <VividHazE> "just install windows?" Boy this Linux advice gets more detailed and helpful every day
[09:04] <VividHazE> hehe
[09:04] <VividHazE> :D
[09:04] <VividHazE> jk
[09:04] <tortho> is it normal after a dist-upgrade to eft that there is a lot of python packages held back?
[09:04] <MasseR> Gotti: I've been considering that but it seems like giving up and .. Well you know :P
[09:05] <MasseR> tortho: Yes
[09:05] <LjL> cheeseruler: right, that's not quite reasonable advice...
[09:05] <Evil_Bill_Gates> all buy Windows
[09:05] <Electronbeam> Damn i hate windows
[09:05] <jjazz> TeemuR: Is the blue screen an indication that css isn't working right?
[09:05] <Evil_Bill_Gates> LaughingoutLoud
[09:05] <Gotti> MasseR, I'll look at it more later and give you a message on the forums...but Work calls!
[09:05] <MasseR> tortho: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:05] <MasseR> Thanks :)
[09:05] <KillerDemon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1wj1rKgKG0  <-- lol :D
[09:05] <john> QUESTION: My wireless card (Belkin F5D7000 rev03) installs fine, but is still unuseable, anyon have any ideas why?
[09:05] <aldur1973> !dist-upgrade
[09:05] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: ok, but do you see more information leading up to the crash?
[09:05] <Gotti> MasseR, and yes I know...I HATE having to give up.
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <Electronbeam> yes
[09:05] <Electronbeam> i need to write
[09:05] <PSUSI> cheesy: try the cd in another machine if you can
[09:05] <Electronbeam> one moment
[09:05] <aldur1973> !dist-upgrade
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <VividHazE> Electronbeam: Write a tutorial on changing port settings in Ubuntu
[09:05] <VividHazE> i'll give you 10 minutes
[09:05] <VividHazE> :D
[09:05] <VividHazE> hehe
[09:05] <VividHazE> jk
[09:05] <PSUSI> cheesy: how did you burn the cd btw?
[09:06] <cheesy> iso
[09:06] <markeib> hey, i got a problem updating to edgy
[09:06] <PSUSI> cheesy: I mean how did you burn the iso?  from a windows install on this same machine?
[09:06] <PSUSI> and in this same drive?
[09:06] <markeib> the update stop and only shows: * Stopping Bluetooth services...
[09:06] <markeib> for a while now
[09:06] <MasseR> Well I'll try compiling 2.6.15 in the meantime
[09:06] <aldur1973> markeib how do you do an upgrade
[09:06] <markeib> can i try to stop that manually?
[09:06] <Evil_Bill_Gates> damn just install windows, then all ur hardware works like a charm
[09:06] <cheesy> from dapper from the same machine
[09:06] <Maggotin> I'm trying to use alsaconf, but it's not working, what can be wrong?
[09:07] <PSUSI> cheesy: ok, boot back into dapper and run md5sum /dev/cdrom
[09:07] <aldur1973> Evil_bill_gates lol
[09:07] <PSUSI> cheesy: should take a while, but it should spit out... hold on, let me look it up...
[09:07] <markeib> aldur1973 gksu "update-manager -c"
[09:07] <aldur1973> guys is there a command to run that will cause the upgrade to start
[09:07] <aldur1973> sudo apt-get dist-update does notinh
[09:08] <LjL> aldur1973: the one markeib just gave you
[09:08] <Evil_Bill_Gates> buy windows, and support the bill gates foundation for childeren with disabilities
[09:08] <MasseR> aldur1973: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:08] <jjazz> aldur1973: apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:08] <nashnash> hello im trying to connect my printer to my network , i use ubuntu 6.10 and the rest of the network use Windows XP , i already fixed my printer in my own pc, it works here and i marked "Share Printers" and im networked with the other pcs, i think the problem is they cant connect to my pc even in the network itself, only i can connect to their pc, i think its because the ubuntu has password and it doesnt work when i press it on the po
[09:08] <nashnash> pup there , please help ^^
[09:08] <badcel> hi, where can i define which sound driver gdm is using to play the sound which is played before the login
[09:08] <LjL> Evil_Bill_Gates, come on, stop trolling ;-)
[09:08] <henry_> nashnash, just get ubuntu on your other computers :)
[09:08] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: i see Loading casper/vmlinuz and casper/initrd.gz and then the loading linux kernel dialog, after that the evil EIP error :(
[09:08] <Evil_Bill_Gates> LaughingoutLoud
[09:09] <henry_> Rolling on the floor laughing
[09:09] <PSUSI> cheesy: b950a4d7cf3151e5f213843e2ad77fe3  ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[09:09] <kyja> I just had to restart my lappy to get the bcm4206 to work again. what is up with that. 606 did not die on uptime.
[09:09] <highneko> lmao, roflmao
[09:09] <PSUSI> cheesy: if that is the iso you used, md5sum should spit out that number... if it does not, it did not get burned correctly or the drive isn't reading it correctly
[09:09] <glitch-> cannot connect to wifi network (I got double boot notebook, windows wifi works fine) using Dapper..anyone?
[09:10] <markeib> so do you know how i can get the upgrade to go on?
[09:10] <aldur1973> how do you check if you have upgraded
[09:10] <markeib> Preparing to replace bluez-utils 2.24-0ubuntu6 (using .../bluez-utils_3.7-1ubuntu4_i386.deb) ...
[09:10] <markeib>  * Stopping Bluetooth services...
[09:10] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: could you run the disk check too then? ;)
[09:10] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: running disk check now
[09:10] <VividHazE> Anyone fancy helping me with webcam port settings in aMSN?
[09:10] <Evil_Bill_Gates> ok ill be honest
[09:10] <Evil_Bill_Gates> http://static.flickr.com/96/281193199_519775b141.jpg
[09:10] <VividHazE> Or even anyone who could tell me how to change my port settings in Ubuntu
[09:10] <MasseR> VividHazE: man iptables
[09:11] <tortho> MesseR: why is this happening, i also had faults (start failed) on acpid and acpi-support
[09:11] <MasseR> tortho: Me?
[09:11] <markeib> please tell me how to stop bluetooth services manually !
[09:11] <LjL> Evil_Bill_Gates, that's funny, but please move jokes to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:11] <nashnash> henry_ , lol ;)
[09:11] <VividHazE> MasseR: thanks, giving it a shot
[09:11] <tortho> Messer: the python.... held back
[09:11] <nashnash> i would like to do that, but my family dont want it, their loss
[09:11] <henry_> mine too hehe
[09:11] <nashnash> but anyway i need to connect my printer to the rest of the network ^^
[09:11] <MasseR> tortho: Ah, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:11] <henry_> nashnash, i'm a noob
[09:12] <MasseR> tortho: It has some conflicting packages
[09:12] <MasseR> That fixes it
[09:12] <tortho> Messer: ok, thanks, do you also know something about this acpid..
[09:12] <MasseR> tortho: No, I had acpi trouble myself but no idea how I fixed 'em
[09:12] <aldur1973> do I have to change my sources.list file at all
[09:12] <nashnash> lol henry_
[09:12] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: tried running the CD defect check, the same error (eip) occurs
[09:12] <Zaggynl> Does anyone know howto get 'Fast Write' working?
[09:12] <badcel> hi, where can i define which sound driver gdm is using to play the sound which is played before the login
[09:12] <MasseR> tortho: And try pressing ma<tab> :P
[09:13] <MasseR> I'm masser and not messer
[09:13] <nashnash> henry_ im a beginner too its ok ^^
[09:13] <LjL> VividHazE: first time i'm touching amsn, but, i can see Tools / Preferences / Other / Configure webcam
[09:13] <mjelva> ubuntu fails at mounting samba shares on startup. i'm able to mount it by bashing 'mount -a' as root. how can i automate this process?
[09:13] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: hrm.... do you have another machine or a working OS installed on this one already you can use to test?
[09:13] <tortho> MasseR: :-) Thanks, it's been a long time since i used irc.
[09:13] <VividHazE> LjL: Thanks for giving it a shot but thats just for setting what cam you want, it has to do with Restricted NAT or something.
[09:13] <VividHazE> blocked ports I have to open to send the actual images
[09:13] <aldur1973> !UPDATE
[09:13] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[09:14] <LjL> VividHazE: ah, so you don't know what ports you need to forward?
[09:14] <VividHazE> found something about NAT in that man iptables, but its like a needle in a haystack, and you don't end up finding a needle but a balloon
[09:14] <VividHazE> :D
[09:14] <VividHazE> yup LjL, or even the commands to even do that
[09:14] <VividHazE> lol
[09:14] <LjL> VividHazE, if you're behind NAT, it's not a problem with your system, but with the system that's implementing the NAT
[09:14] <ompaul> ubotu tell about mjelva samba
[09:14] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: i have the machine im working on now, and the one i am installing on  the one i am installing on does not currently have a working OS
[09:14] <john> anyone know how to get a BCM4306 rev03 wireless pci card working in 64bit ubuntu?
[09:14] <LjL> i.e. your router, i would assume, VividHazE
[09:14] <nashnash> hello im trying to connect my printer to my network , i use ubuntu 6.10 and the rest of the network use Windows XP , i already fixed my printer in my own pc, it works here and i marked "Share Printers" and im networked with the other pcs, i think the problem is they cant connect to my pc even in the network itself, only i can connect to their pc, i think its because the ubuntu has password and it doesnt work when i press it on the po
[09:14] <nashnash> pup there , please help ^^
[09:15] <VividHazE> LjL: Yea, its a BT Home Hub, and i've no idea how to access that from linux :S
[09:15] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: ok... the machine you are on now, is it running linux or windows?
[09:15] <LjL> VividHazE: just as you would from Windows, i'd assume. it'll have a web interface possibly.
[09:15] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: windows, unfortunatly
[09:15] <tops> if I have the same username and password on two machines, is there a way to let me ssh from one to the other without entering my password?
[09:15] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: then you can either google for a win32 port of md5sum, or just reboot the machine off the cd and run the disk test
[09:15] <VividHazE> no BT Home hub has this software you install on Windows and you can access the features of it, I looked in all the network stuff I could find in Ubuntu but nothing about that.:S
[09:16] <MasseR> tops: Yes, google ssh-keygen -t rsa
[09:16] <VividHazE> I have an old modem that has a web interface but then we lose the Wireless stuff with the Home Hub
[09:16] <VividHazE> suck
[09:16] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: if that machine has the same problem, then it is likely that the disk is bad
[09:16] <ehehehe> the link for pan_0.117_i386.deb is dead ont he official site, anyone has a mirror please?
[09:16] <Gotti> im off to work...talk to you all later!
[09:16] <domecq> Anyone could please give me a hint on how to verify if my TV card is working? My computer has a PCI Pinnacle PCTV Stereo, lspci outputs "01:07.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 10)". My computer is running with Ubuntu Edgy.
[09:16] <ompaul> VividHazE, first what is your current ip?
[09:16] <LjL> VividHazE, are you sure it doesn't also come with a web interface? (it's really a stupid router if it only can be controlled with Windows software...!)
[09:17] <Electronbeam> this machine runs the same edgy CD fine. What is the disk check and how do i get it
[09:17] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: when burning isos, try limiting the burn speed to 8x.... some hardware doesn't like cds burned at 52x or whatever insane speed they are doing these days
[09:17] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: I thoguh you said you already tried it on this other machine?
[09:17] <Electronbeam> yes
[09:17] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: choose the disk check option from the boot menu
[09:17] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: try doing that in the machine you are on now
[09:17] <VividHazE> LjL: Well, I've never used it before :S I should maybe look for that in the manuals before I go any further because if that exists then there isn't a problem.
[09:18] <moolcool> I just read an article about the advantages between gnome and kde, can you run gnome apps on kde and kde apps on gnome? how does that work>
[09:18] <VividHazE> I know what i'm looking for I think, I just don't know where it is in the firs tplace
[09:18] <VividHazE> lol
[09:18] <Electronbeam> sorry, but i cant do it now...but i will check it soon
[09:18] <Stormx2> moolcool: Yes.
[09:18] <Stormx2> moolcool: You can, but they look different.
[09:18] <john> anyone know how to get my Belkin F5D7000 rev03 wireless pci card working in ubuntu?
[09:18] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: ok... when you do if the same thing happens, it looks like a bad burn... so try burning a new one at lower speed
[09:18] <moolcool> so basicly the main diffrence between gnome and kde is the look of it?
[09:18] <Electronbeam> ok, thanks much for the info PSUSI
[09:18] <LjL> VividHazE: do you know your router's IP?
[09:19] <VividHazE> <--- Knows nothing
[09:19] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: if the disk check on this machine comes back fine though, then you might want to file a bug report with full hardware specs on the machine where it crashes
[09:19] <VividHazE> <--- peroid
[09:19] <VividHazE> lol
[09:19] <VividHazE> AH, I gotta go now my brother needs a lift anyway :S I'll probably be back later anyway
[09:19] <markeib> how do i force bluez-utils to stop?
[09:19] <VividHazE> you've given me some ideas though I'll try and work on them :D
[09:19] <D0wn> I need some help. When I stick a Blank CD in my drive, nothing will read/write it. I've tried mounting /dev/hdb but that didn't work
[09:19] <moolcool> so basicly the diffrence between gnome and kde is the look of it?
[09:20] <LjL> VividHazE: type "route" and paste the output on the pastebin please
[09:20] <john> anyone know how to get my Belkin F5D7000 rev03 wireless pci card working in ubuntu?
[09:20] <jjazz> moolcool: They're two different desktops with two different approaches.  Install them both, try them and use the one you like better.
[09:20] <markeib> how do i kill bluez-utils ?
[09:21] <D0wn> markeib: killalll bluez-utils
[09:21] <john> anyone know how to get my Belkin F5D7000 rev03 wireless pci card working in ubuntu?
[09:21] <VividHazE> LjL: just route?
[09:21] <D0wn> John: Install the drivers
[09:21] <jjazz> markeib: Have you tried /etc/init.d/bluez-utils stop ?
[09:21] <LjL> VividHazE: yup
[09:21] <VividHazE> hey isn't giving you my IP address like bad cause you'll hack me or something :D
[09:21] <VividHazE> hehe
[09:21] <victorh> hi, how can I change/update the kernel if I don't have acces to the internet?
[09:21] <markeib> yes jjazz
[09:21] <markeib> it won't work
[09:21] <john> Down: already tried that
[09:21] <markeib> but i killed it now and the upgrade goes on ^^
[09:21] <markeib> thank you anyways
[09:21] <john> tried with ndiswrapper and no luck there
[09:21] <LjL> VividHazE: your IP address is <IP_ADDRESS> - anybody can see that right from IRC
[09:22] <D0wn> Hmm..
[09:22] <moolcool> what do you mean by desktops and approches? Is it like a theme with diffrent layouts and looks but all the same function?
[09:22] <VividHazE> lol shows how much I know
[09:22] <VividHazE> GAH my bro is shouting at me now to go :P
[09:22] <VividHazE> LjL i'll be back in the next hour if your really want to help, sorry about that :S
[09:22] <azcazandco> can anyone help me with what permissions my /var/ dir should have? I can no longer browse it since upgrading to edgy
[09:23] <method|> hey when i first got ubuntu i did a dkpg something that allowed me to configure my fonts anyone know what that command is?
[09:23] <azcazandco> chmod o+r ?
[09:23] <donfilipo> LjL are you still there i have tried to fix my stream playing reading the how to page but nothing works...my avi files play from HDD my wmv play from HDD even ram files play in real player if put link there directly but i have troubles with usual stream files...nothing works
[09:23] <D0wn> I need some help. When I stick a Blank CD in my drive, nothing will read/write it. I've tried mounting /dev/hdb but that didn't work
[09:23] <jjazz> azcazandco: 755, owned by root
[09:24] <azcazandco> okay
[09:24] <azcazandco> jjazz: thanks
[09:24] <jjazz> D0wn: I don't think you can mount it.  There's no filesystem if it's blank.
[09:24] <pak-x> hi
[09:24] <jjazz> azcazandco: np
[09:25] <azcazandco> jjazz: still cant get it via nautalis
[09:25] <Hoxxin> if it wasnt for all the games i want to play i'd change to ubuntu completely a long time ago. About Cedega, is it as good as they say? i mean can i play the most games with it?
[09:25] <D0wn> jjazz: if I don't mount it, then how can anything recognize it to burn?
[09:25] <pak-x> i have a hard problem with the nvidia drivers, everytime i install them, they works, but after a reboot, he has a conflict with the versionnumbers and can not exec the kernel. what can i do
[09:25] <jjazz> D0wn: just stick it in the drive and whatever you're using to burn will take care of it
[09:25] <neonempyr> * Has anyone made a Festalon 0.5.5 package?
[09:25] <jjazz> azcazandco: I don't know anything about nautilis.  Try the command line.
[09:26] <DigitalNinja> How well does Ubuntu run on the core 2 duo?
[09:26] <D0wn> jjaxx: Eh, well that's not working
[09:26] <LjL> donfilipo: i know, problem is that page apparently isn't up-to-date for Edgy... i've asked the documentation team to look at it. i can't do much about it myself, since i'm using KDE and haven't even tried installing codecs anyway
[09:26] <azcazandco> i did, nautalis is just the file browser
[09:26] <pak-x> also in xgl i can only choose us language for my keyboard, this sucks for a german
[09:26] <boldii> hi
[09:26] <der0b> folks, is there a way to browse printers on a windows server with nautilus?
[09:26] <jjazz> azcazandco: Can you read the dir as root?
[09:26] <boldii> anybody here already built wormux 0.8 for ubuntu edgy??
[09:27] <Arjen> Question: How do I prevent having to run "dhclient" every time I start Ubuntu to get my internet connection to work?
[09:28] <geokok> can someone help me verify what i believe to be a bug in OO base in edgy?
[09:28] <petri_l> Anyone gotten a Broadcom 4311 working on Ubuntu?
[09:28] <Lynoure> Arjen: do you already have dhcp in your /etc/network/inferfaces for that network card?
[09:28] <St0n3-C0l> hey I have a problem....whenever I start my computer and boot Ubuntu...after booting n all...the sound of gnome appears n the system hangs !! and when I go to Windows and after that I reboot and then come to Ubuntu..it works..what's the problem ? I am on Edgy!
[09:29] <geokok> can someone help me verify what i believe to be a bug in OO base in edgy?
[09:29] <azcazandco> jjazz: yest
[09:29] <donfilipo> LjL so you are saying somebody is aware of the problem....but maybe you can tell me one thing...how can i convince my real player to start on ram files and not to start mplayer plugin? do i realy need to download a ram file to my disk or is there a shorter way?
[09:29] <tritium> geokok: you need to describe it, and not repeat
[09:29] <Arjen> Lynoure, let me check.
[09:29] <azcazandco> I can browse it as my user too but not if I select computer from the places menu
[09:30] <jjazz> azcazandco: sudo chmod 755 /var
[09:30] <LjL> donfilipo, you need to change the file associations i suppose... but i can't really help you, because this kind of things is different in KDE
[09:30] <Hoxxin> cedega, is it really as good as it sounds?
[09:30] <squidly> hello.. anyone know where I need to chagne the password for nagios's web frust end
[09:30] <geokok> ok sorry. I try to create a form with the wizard but when I hit finish nothing happens. If I replace FSF java with SUN JAVA then the specific wizard wont start at all
[09:30] <squidly> Hoxxin: yes
[09:30] <azcazandco> jjazz: drwxr-xr-x  16 root root  4096 2006-10-26 23:55 var
[09:30] <Hoxxin> squidly woah, sounds nice :D
[09:30] <ploom> hi - yesterday I still had my time correct (appeared to correctly adust the daylight saving time), wonder how today it's back in the one-hour-before time?
[09:31] <Arjen> Lynoure, it appears to ask DHCP for an IP-address (I checked in System > Administration > Network tools)
[09:31] <jjazz> azcazandco: That the correct perms
[09:31] <squidly> Hoxxin: ive used cedega
[09:31] <azcazandco> i know, is wierd :(
[09:31] <St0n3-C0l> hey I have a problem....whenever I start my computer and boot Ubuntu...after booting n all...the sound of gnome appears n the system hangs !! and when I go to Windows and after that I reboot and then come to Ubuntu..it works..what's the problem ? I am on Edgy!
[09:31] <Lynoure> Arjen: just in case, check the actual file, or put it in a pastebin
[09:31] <Hoxxin> squidly: have you tried several games and they all have worked?
[09:31] <alecjw> ploom: do this in a terminal: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[09:31] <squidly> Hoxxin: pretty much yea
[09:31] <Hoxxin> nice
[09:31] <jjazz> azcazandco: If a user can't read /var and /var has those perms, something is seriously messed up.
[09:31] <azcazandco> hmmm
[09:32] <squidly> Hoxxin: yea it rocks, CS worked very well, for me and I know of about 75 games that work very will under it
[09:32] <geokok>  the problem appears in the live cd as well
[09:32] <donfilipo> LJL ok thanks anyway i will have to look for it for myself.....but have you heard that the problem exists so that i do not repeat the installation for nothing and the problem remains the same?
[09:32] <klm-> how can I take a snapshot on mplayer?
[09:32] <ploom> thanks alecjw, but already did it - added servers of my local ISP even and checked that timezone is still Europe/Tallinn
[09:32] <squidly> damn I used to know that
[09:32] <evilmegaman> Is ubuntu able to resize NTFS partitions? Like during the install?
[09:32] <Hoxxin> squidly: i will give it a try :) if it works i can leave windows forever :P
[09:32] <squidly> evilmegaman: iirc no
[09:32] <azcazandco> jjazz: is strange, I can get into /var if using something likle bluefish
[09:33] <ompaul> evilmegaman, yes it can
[09:33] <jjazz> azcazandco: ls /var
[09:33] <azcazandco> i can browse it with my ftp client etc too
[09:33] <ompaul> evilmegaman, takes time
[09:33] <Arjen> Lynoure, I'm looking at "eth0", it's twice in the file.
[09:33] <squidly> anyone konw where I need to look to change the nagios password for the webfront end?
[09:33] <squidly> and the nagios user name?
[09:33] <ploom> alecjw - weird - now did it second time and its showing the right time again :-)
[09:33] <Arjen> Lynoure, mistake! Once in the file.
[09:33] <azcazandco> jjazz: backups  games  local  log   opt       run    tmp cache    lib    lock   mail  packages  spool  www
[09:33] <evilmegaman> ompaul, oh okay. But it works okay? and is it reliable?
[09:33] <arepie> hello, i have some error everytime i try to install something
[09:33] <ploom> thanks anyways :-)
[09:33] <jjazz> azcazandco: OK, so obviously you can read /var
[09:33] <arepie> --> E: clamav-base: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:33] <Arjen> Lynoure, it only sais: "auto eth0"
[09:33] <alecjw> that's ok, ploom
[09:33] <DigitalNinja> How do the core 2 duo's work under Linux?
[09:34] <geokok> anyone having the same behaviout I described earlier in OO base?
[09:34] <squidly> DigitalNinja: iirc pretty good
[09:34] <LjL> donfilipo, i hear a lot of people complaining about multimedia codecs and such, but i can't say for sure that i've seen the same problem that you're having
[09:34] <Lynoure> Arjen: no dhcp?
[09:34] <azcazandco> jjazz: so what do you think is up?
[09:34] <ompaul> evilmegaman, to get the best result from that defrag the windows partition allot space defrag it again allot all the spare space and yes it is reliable
[09:34] <Arjen> Doesn't seem like it!
[09:34] <azcazandco> I am at a loss
[09:34] <St0n3-C0l> anybody here to solveout my prolem ?
[09:34] <jjazz> azcazandco: What is it you are trying to accomplish that you cannot?  I don't understand your problem
[09:34] <St0n3-C0l> problem?
[09:34] <ogamiitto> what packages do I need to develop simple c programs? do I need anything else than gcc and gdb?
[09:34] <Arjen> Lynoure, nope.
[09:34] <DigitalNinja> squidly: Do you have to any fancy config stuff to get it working?
[09:34] <boink> !build-essentials
[09:34] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:34] <evilmegaman> cool thanks ompaul :)
[09:34] <ompaul> DigitalNinja, on dapper you have to tell it which kernel to use on edgy it does it itself
[09:34] <razormade> I have a problem with the ' mythtv' user. It has no access rights in MySQL. How can I fix it?
[09:34] <razormade> I'd like to have Mythtv running in Ubuntu. Some one can help????
[09:34] <squidly> DigitalNinja: iirc no.. but then I donte have a core duo
[09:34] <lars__> having problem with adding a local directory as an apt source (won't find packages). can anyone help me? :]
[09:35] <arepie> anyone know how to solve this problem?? --> E: clamav-base: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:35] <Hoxxin> one more question, what irc client you ppl use?
[09:35] <jjazz> razormade: mysql has a grant command.
[09:35] <squidly> Hoxxin: i use irssi
[09:35] <wildchild> what is the command if u wanna search for a part of rile for example NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9625-pkg1.run
[09:35] <ClayG> Hoxxin, Xchat or irssi if in cli
[09:35] <ompaul> Hoxxin, that question will not be answered by 1100 plus
[09:35] <azcazandco> jjazz: okay, at the top of my screen I have Applications, Places, System menus... if I select places > computer and browse to / I only get media home data & sda3 which are mounted drives etc
[09:35] <lars__> hoxxin: xchat (standard breezy :>)
[09:35] <pak-x> i have a hard problem with the nvidia drivers, everytime i install them, they works, but after a reboot, he has a conflict with the versionnumbers and can not exec the kernel. what can i do
[09:35] <sylwia> hi im new here what's up?
[09:35] <Lynoure> Arjen: then that's almost certainly the cause
[09:35] <boink> I use irssi here
[09:35] <Arjen> Lynoure, it does seem to have that stuff for eht1 and eth2, even wlan0, should i just delete that stuff?
[09:36] <squidly> ClayG: i prefre irssi over xchat sence I started useing irssi ^^
[09:36] <razormade> jjazz: how does that work? Example...
[09:36] <donfilipo> LjL ok it's not the codecs problem cause codecs do their work if filed are on HDD it's the broswers problem
[09:36] <Hoxxin> ompaul : i didnt expect that either :D
[09:36] <DigitalNinja> ompaul: ARe the core 2 duo's like amd 64? Do we get core 2 duo libraries like we do for amd 64?
[09:36] <sylwia> everyone have a problems...lol
[09:36] <azcazandco> jjazz: I need to be able to browse my /var/www folder
[09:36] <sioux> where I get a secure guide for nvidia in edgy?
[09:36] <Lynoure> Arjen: I'd rather just add that to eth0 first
[09:36] <lars__> azcazandco, chmod +x /var/www
[09:36] <jjazz> razormade: Google it.  Plenty of examples out there.
[09:36] <boink> !nvidia
[09:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:36] <jjazz> azcazandco: ls /var/www
[09:36] <ompaul> DigitalNinja, afik the smp part ofthe kernel just grabs the job and works with it
[09:36] <Arjen> Lynoure, add "iface eth0 inet dhcp"? (I notice now it's already in)
[09:36] <ClayG> squidly, I like it but prefer a gui for irc
[09:37] <wildchild> how can I find file named: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9625-pkg1.run
[09:37] <ClayG> of coarse it's prime when you are at work and want to jump on real quick through a screen/ssh
[09:37] <Geoffrey2> um, how much does Cedega cost?
[09:37] <azcazandco> jjazz: i get the contents
[09:37] <Owner> helo everyone...i am new to ubuntu.....
[09:37] <razormade> jjaz: I'll Google and have a look at the MySQL website! Thanks. I''l give it a try.
[09:37] <squidly> ClayG: YKINMK ^^
[09:37] <menko> wildchild: find | grep example* from the root of the directories you wanna search. it will show all files which start with example. To make it un case sensitive add -i to grep.
[09:37] <sioux> ubot that seems for dapper... edgy ios the same?
[09:37] <Lynoure> Arjen: sorry, I got confused now. Yes, add if it's missing
[09:37] <lars__> azcazandco, thats what ls is made for
[09:37] <foobark> oh oh - I have an nvidia question too!
[09:38] <ClayG> squidly, ?
[09:38] <jjazz> azcazandco: So when you point nautilis at /var/www, what happens?
[09:38] <Arjen> Lynoure, it's already in! Sorry my mistake, I didn't notice at first.
[09:38] <Zaggynl> foobark, fire away
[09:38] <DigitalNinja> ompaul: Lets see if I understand correctly. No extra libraries are needed. Just grab the extra kernel and everything should work just ifne. I get 100% core 2 duo stuff.
[09:38] <squidly> ClayG: your kink is not my kink ^^
[09:38] <Lynoure> Arjen: that's why pastebin is so handy...
[09:38] <foobark> I two video cards - the onboard intel i810 is working great. Then I have a 7900gs that  is not working so great. Actually when I set it as the default I get a kernel panic on boot
[09:38] <Hoxxin> ompaul anyway it seems like most ppl use irssi or xhat, im quite new to all this linux and stuff and ive tried irssi a couple of times but have never really got into it. as an old MIRC user
[09:38] <segfault_> !nvidiabeta | wildchild
[09:38] <ubotu> wildchild: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[09:38] <azcazandco> I cant even see anything other than 4 folders if I click on filesystem
[09:38] <Arjen> Lynoure, my bad, my bad, want me to post one now?
[09:38] <jjazz> azcazandco: I have yet to understand your problem, btw.  AFAICT, everything is working as it is supposed to.  Perhaps you could clearly say what behavior you're expecting and how it differs from what you're getting.
[09:38] <foobark> So i've been trying to start it up as a secondary display
[09:38] <ClayG> squidly, true
[09:38] <LjL> donfilipo: ok well, still not much i can say... i do have firefox installed (though i never use it), and the places i'd look at are Edit / Preferences / Contents / File types / Manage and, failing that, the "about:config" URL
[09:39] <squidly> lol ^^
[09:39] <scamboy> question: how do i activate bluetooth on my ubuntu??pls help...
[09:39] <squidly> now to get nagios working ^^
[09:39] <sioux> what's best compiz or berly?
[09:39] <squidly> afk a sec
[09:39] <Lynoure> Arjen: have you checked the logs for dhcp activity at the boot time?
[09:39] <segfault_> sioux, beryl
[09:39] <ClayG> i haven't tried skype in a while, is it still slow on ubuntu?
[09:39] <azcazandco> jjazz: I used to be able to browse the whole filesystem using the file browser but can now only see mounted drives and my home dir
[09:39] <ompaul> Hoxxin, I suggest if you use a gui X-Chat2
[09:39] <foobark> Is there any way to start up the x-server in a 'foreground' and then maybe I can try running it just for the nvidia card or soemthing?
[09:39] <Arjen> Lynoure, I don't have a clue how to do that, so no...
[09:39] <pak-x> i have a hard problem with the nvidia drivers, everytime i install them, they works, but after a reboot, he has a conflict with the versionnumbers and can not exec the kernel. can someone help me please? thanks
[09:39] <sioux> hu some says compiz other berly... I get confused
[09:40] <Geoffrey2> ok, I have multiple email accounts I want to access through evolution...I saw a screenshot that showed each account with it's own set of boxes (inbox, sent, draft, etc), but I can't figure out how to set that up...can anyone help me?
[09:40] <Lynoure> Arjen: (I might have to go soon, I'm not yet adjusted to the winter time, so I'm very tired already)
[09:40] <scamboy> ??
[09:40] <pak-x> beryl and compiy are both verz good. i use beryl, because compiz isnt working
[09:40] <Shish> sioux: compiz is the standard branch; beryl is compiz + loads more features
[09:40] <jjazz> azcazandco: OK, well it's not a permissions thing.  If you can get all that stuff from the command line, it's not a perms problem.  I guess it's a nautilus problem, but like I said, I don't know anything about nautilus.
[09:40] <Arjen> Lynoure, no problem, thanks for your help so far!
[09:40] <ClayG> Geoffrey2, nice spelling ,very D&D, secondly in thunderbird it's done by not selecting "global mail box" , i would imagine it's the same in evol
[09:40] <azcazandco> jjazz: thanks for trying
[09:40] <Hoxxin> ompaul ok
[09:40] <jjazz> azcazandco: np
[09:41] <killown> after compile kernel I get error during boot FATAL: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu1/modules.dep.temp for writing: no such file or directory That folder does exist  what I do to fix it?
[09:41] <azcazandco> jjazz: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:41] <Hoxxin> how many ppl are here really? many
[09:41] <Zaggynl> aaagh
[09:41] <jjazz> azcazandco: dapper
[09:41] <azcazandco> ok
[09:41] <Zaggynl> what's that feature that autoplays songs when you hover over them?
[09:41] <ploom> Hoxxin: 1111 users currently here ;-)
[09:41] <ClayG> Zaggynl, wow, i hate the "feature"
[09:41] <Hoxxin> woah
[09:41] <fuoco> can anyone suggest a simple audio editor, i need to divide a single wav file to several tracks
[09:41] <azcazandco> jjazz: can you go to places > computer > filesystem and tell me what you see
[09:41] <Zaggynl> ClayG, me too now, It's stuck after I deleted the files D:
[09:41] <ClayG> Zaggynl, but I think that is done through you "window" settings
[09:41] <jjazz> azcazandco: No, I can't.  I don't use gnome
[09:41] <Zaggynl> ClayG, where can I change that setting?
[09:41] <foobark> It would be real cool if this irc had a conversation queue :)
[09:42] <ClayG> lemme check
[09:42] <Elements> fuoco, Audacity
[09:42] <Lynoure> Arjen: try   dmesg  , it should have a line with eth0 somewhere and maybe even dhcp
[09:42] <lars__> when i upgrade to 6.10 using apt-get, the package "volumeid" causes an error because one of its files also exists in "udev"
[09:42] <Zaggynl> azcazandco, dapper ftw ;)
[09:42] <lars__> how to solve this?
[09:42] <ryanakca> why is everything slow when I come back to the computer after it has idled a while (24 hours...)?
[09:42] <Zaggynl> It's stuck on stuck on scatman - scatman's world now xD
[09:42] <[BTF] Chm0d> man this edgy upgrade is slllllloooooowwww
[09:43] <Lynoure> Arjen: or actually   dmesg | grep eth0
[09:43] <Zaggynl> stay away from the edgy
[09:43] <fuoco> Elements: ok, thx. i heard of the name jokosher - is that related?
[09:43] <ClayG> Zaggynl, agreed on the edgy ting
[09:43] <Elements> never heard of it
[09:43] <LjL> Zaggynl: don't give blanket advice.
[09:43] <ClayG> ok open up a window, click places then home
[09:43] <Elements> Audacity works pretty well for me
[09:43] <markeib> my upgrade won't continue it stopped here: * Starting Bluetooth services...  hcid sdpd
[09:43] <Zaggynl> I love the effort people put in edgy, but it's not as stable as dapper, so lots of problems occur
[09:44] <Arjen> Lynoure, got 5 lines back from the grep. Want me to open a pastebin?
[09:44] <foobark> I'm going to have to get a real irc client for this channel... miranda-im isn't cutting it.
[09:44] <LjL> Zaggynl: Edgy is not experimental anymore, it's released, it might not work well for you, but having Edgy sported on the ubuntu.com page, and then people saying to stay away from it in the official support channels isn't really a good idea
[09:44] <Lynoure> Arjen: and   dmesg | grep dhc  (as I cannot remember if the dhcp client will mention the interface name)
[09:44] <pak-x> i cannot install nvidia drivers correctly... after install he gets a kernel versionnumber problem and cannot load
[09:44] <Lynoure> Arjen: that would be nice
[09:44] <Zaggynl> LjL, well we do need people testing so okay
[09:44] <Arjen> Lynoure, grepping for dhc yielded no results.
[09:44] <blabla> how to set user permissions to file
[09:45] <Zaggynl> Is there a way to stop the autoplay feature of gnome ?
[09:45] <Lynoure> Arjen: or just message me, but as I'm going soon, pastebin will let others to help you further
[09:45] <ukubuntu> Any Fridge editors around? If you are interested GRAMPS 2.2.1 has just been released with a significant interface upgrade. It is geneology reporting software
[09:45] <ClayG> then EDIT>PREFERENCES>
[09:45] <ClayG> then goto the preview pane
[09:45] <ClayG> or tab, whichever it is "really" called
[09:45] <ClayG> got that Zaggynl
[09:45] <Zaggynl> ah
[09:45] <LjL> Zaggynl: not a matter of testing, it's supposed to have been tested already. sure, it may still have some problems - like everything.  you can most certainly tell people that Dapper has the advantage of sporting "Long Term Support", and also that if they're already using Dapper and it works well, there is no need to fix what is not broken.
[09:45] <Geoffrey2> ClayG, I used to use Thunderbird and I remember that's how it was done, but I don't see any option like that in Evolution
[09:45] <Zaggynl> ClayG, got it, thanks
[09:45] <Zaggynl> uagh, it keeps playing
[09:45] <DigitalNinja> Should I get an amd 64 or a intel core 2 duo?
[09:46] <Zaggynl> hah, got it
[09:46] <ClayG> DigitalNinja, I would have said amd 64 before getting a core 2 duo
[09:46] <Zaggynl> mpg-something
[09:46] <p_masho> Have upgraded to edgy. DOes anyone know how I can change the "startup screen" to chow the services etc as they start ? instead of just the progress bar ?
[09:46] <ClayG> but remember, lol this is comign from a guy who hasn't used amd 64
[09:46] <pak-x> after install he sazs, that he cannot load the kernel, because the kernel version is 1.0.xxxx and the xserver version is 1.0.xxxx but i have installed the newest drivers
[09:46] <DigitalNinja> ClayG: What do you use?
[09:46] <scamboy> how 2 install bluetooth???
[09:47] <jcole> nyone here familiar with mapping joystick buttons to system commands?
[09:47] <ClayG> DigitalNinja, for which? email or cpu's?
[09:47] <scamboy> driver??
[09:47] <ClayG> oh never mind
[09:47] <DigitalNinja> ClayG: cpu's?
[09:47] <ClayG> didn't see you were the same person
[09:47] <ClayG> i use core 2 duo on a lappy i just got
[09:47] <scamboy> clay can u help me??
[09:47] <ClayG> but before buying it i would have said get amd
[09:47] <Arjen> Lynoure, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29428/
[09:47] <ClayG> if i didn't have the money to blow i would have got the AMD
[09:47] <nashnash> there is a way to search for a file in ubuntu?
[09:47] <howieson26> !de
[09:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:48] <ClayG> scamboy, help you? with what?
[09:48] <LjL> p_masho: you can edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the kernel parameters so that they don't contain "quiet" anymore
[09:48] <scamboy> how 2 activate bluetooth on my ubuntu..thanks..
[09:48] <coz_> nashnash, yes go up under the places menu and click search
[09:48] <ClayG> scamboy, honestly haven't done that yet, just got my lappy 2 days ago and that hasn't coem up yet
[09:49] <coz_> scamboy have you googled   ubuntu blue tooth how to
[09:49] <ukubuntu> http://gramps-project.org/ if anyone is interested. Does anyone have a mail address or contact for the fridge management team?
[09:49] <scamboy> clay, thank anyway..
[09:49] <ClayG> scamboy, but it is something i need,so ill try to do it and wecan learn together (sounds gay, but i'm sure you rather that then me say "google it", i hate when people do that)
[09:49] <ClayG> heheeh oops, sorry coz_
[09:49] <MasseR> \o/ I got the mmc working
[09:49] <nashnash> oh right coz_ , lol , i missed it ^^
[09:49] <nashnash> thanks
[09:49] <coz_> ClayG,  it is always good to have people google for answers especially BEFORE they come into the forums
[09:49] <scamboy> coz yes...even checked the web....still same..
[09:50] <scamboy> hey clay...thanks..
[09:50] <coz_> scamboy, ok hold on
[09:50] <ClayG> coz_, yeah but the problem with that is people on forums say google it, and when you do a google search you have 1000's of pages that when you goto them have people telling others to google it
[09:50] <CarinArr> is there an easy way to prioritise network traffic, so for example, ssh is always prioritised over down.uploads etc
[09:51] <ClayG> in irc, you act as if you were in a conversation, you wouldn't tell someoen to goto the library because it has the info if you were talking to someone face to face would you?
[09:51] <scamboy> i am using an externel bluetooth adapter..
[09:51] <kmaynard> !offtopic
[09:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:51] <coz_> ClayG, yes that is called sifting through the information for yourself
[09:51] <kmaynard> coz_ and ClayG, take it up in /msg
[09:51] <coz_> scamboy, what device are you wanting to connet to
[09:52] <coz_> connect
[09:52] <ClayG> hehehhe
[09:52] <ClayG> kmaynard, sorry about that
[09:52] <dustin> ahhh     what can i use aside from part image to "ghost my computer?
[09:52] <scamboy> a notebook to my usb bluetooth..
[09:52] <markeib> how can i skip a step in the upgrade process?
[09:52] <gnu2it2> ianmacgregor: did webmin get replace by some other tool? I have a headless sparc server for samba imap and apache
[09:52] <kmaynard> dustin:  http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
[09:53] <scamboy> ...
[09:53] <coz_> scamboy, i am the wrong peson for that keep asking about it though
[09:53] <MuPp3t> My new laptop should be arriving tomorrow, I want to dual boot XP and Ubuntu on it, thing is I've never partitioned a hard drive before, could anyone tell me if it is best to format and then create the partitions or just create another without formatting (XP will come preinstalled)?
[09:53] <ClayG> MuPp3t, just partition
[09:54] <Xzyx987X> hmm... who can tell me why the ntfs drives I mounted in ubuntu are showing up as empty?
[09:54] <Lynoure> Arjen: Nothing there to give any hints, I'm sorry. I think I really must sleep now. If all else fails you can do a post-up for it in the interfaces file but that's an ugly fix. there is bound to be a true solution.
[09:54] <MuPp3t> Okay, thanks ClayG
[09:54] <Xzyx987X> cause I'm pretty sure they're not...
[09:54] <ryanakca> why is everything slow when I come back to the computer after it has idled a while (24 hours...)?
[09:54] <ClayG> MuPp3t, be carefuly, i flattened and when i went ot rebuilt i used xp pro instead , it has been a btch to get the drivers
[09:54] <Arjen> Lynoure, I appreciate your help, thanks alot!
[09:54] <ClayG> MuPp3t, is it a HP?
[09:54] <ClayG> the laptop
[09:54] <MuPp3t> No, Alienware
[09:54] <scamboy> coz thanks anyway..
[09:54] <age6racer> my navigation bar in nautilus is missing. I just upgraded to Edgy. Does anyone know how to get it back?
[09:55] <jcole> age6racer: ctrl-l?
[09:55] <Lynoure> Arjen: Good luck. I'll be here awake again in less than 12h, but I'm betting your problem is solved by that time :)
[09:55] <sam_> anyone know about capturing video / installing raw 1934???
[09:55] <scamboy>  just hope some one can help me on the bluetooth..
[09:55] <Arjen> Lynoure, I hope so! :)
[09:56] <ianmacgregor> gnu2it2: Not sure, I always just use cli for that stuff
[09:56] <scamboy>  any kind people here>>??
[09:57] <Moodles> I updated to Edgy the proper way, now grub is broken, I have to manually change it from hd(2,0) to hd(1,1) and now all it gets to is "waiting for root filesystem"
[09:57] <Farm_Fresh> Having a problem with firefox.  Once launched it runs fine for a while, (less than 10 min) then the whole computer lockes up needing a hard reboot.  If I don't run firefox, I have no problems at all.
[09:57] <kmaynard> scamboy: what device is it again?
[09:58] <kmaynard> Farm_Fresh: is it the ubuntu build?
[09:58] <ryanakca> why is everything slow when I come back to the computer after it has idled a while (24 hours...)?
[09:58] <scamboy> its a usb bluetooth which is not functioning on my laptop..
[09:58] <kmaynard> Moodles:  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, correct it there
[09:58] <crane> hello
[09:58] <Moodles> what about the "waiting for root filesystem" thing
[09:58] <Farm_Fresh> kmaynard:  I think so... I just did the edgy upgrade
[09:59] <Xzyx987X> seriously, I'm getting tired of how practically everything I want to do in edgy takes either a hack, workaround, or installing a series of buggy packages...
[09:59] <nashnash> where is the ports.conf should be? i want to make listen to my pc so my lan windows pcs can connect to my printer?
[09:59] <crane> i am very new to Ubuntu
[09:59] <crane> hoping someone might help me
[09:59] <Xzyx987X> I used to think the design of windows was convoluted, but I guess I hadn't seen anything yet...
[09:59] <optimusprime> how do you upgrade a Kernel?
[09:59] <kmaynard> Farm_Fresh: try running the official mozilla release
[09:59] <nashnash> where is the ports.conf should be? i want to make listen to my pc so my lan windows pcs can connect to my printer? plz someone help ;)
[09:59] <optimusprime> or can some one direct me to a link that'll show me how
[10:00] <sam_> any kino users here?
[10:00] <pkilgore_> optimusprime, I believe new kernel releases are in apt
[10:00] <kmaynard> Moodles:  also look at  /boot/grub/device.map  make sure your drives are setup right
[10:00] <dnite> ok, this is annoying... i set the gnome-power manager thing to never blank my screen.. and i even setterm -blank 0 .. but my screen still blanks.. how do you stop your screen for turning off?
[10:00] <pkilgore_> If you're feeling particularly brave (it doesn't hurt, I swear), you can compile your own
[10:00] <segfault_> optimusprime, when u run normal upgrades ur kernel should get upgrade with any other pkgs if an update is available
[10:00] <gnu2it2> what is the best IMAP server ? ease of setup/management and secure ?
[10:01] <pkilgore_> The gentoo tutorial is good for that
[10:01] <cirvin> i try "sudo apt-get install mjpegtools" yet it tells me there isnt a package there
[10:01] <tag> edgy is released?
[10:01] <optimusprime> so the latest for Dapper is 2.6.15-27
[10:01] <segfault_> optimusprime, i think so
[10:01] <kmaynard> cirvin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=jpeg&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[10:02] <segfault_> tag, read the topic
[10:02] <kmaynard> tag: where have you been? :)
[10:02] <tag> in a cave apparently
[10:02] <tag> no wonder I haven't had any updates lately
[10:02] <cirvin> >< upgrade time
[10:02] <cirvin> though it should be in dapper
[10:02] <segfault_> tag, edgy being released should not affect whether ur dapper install gets updates or not
[10:02] <crane> i installed ubuntu this morn, and everything was going swimingly, but now my mouse continues to freeze up.  I am extremely new to this, and I'm at a lose as to what to do.
[10:03] <Xzyx987X> while, we're at it, how do you set the locale?
[10:03] <tag> segfault_: it might keep my dapper install from getting the latest and greatest softwares though?
[10:04] <cirvin> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/graphics/mjpegtools
[10:04] <segfault_> tag, ur dapper install will not get any newer software than it had when u installed it, it will only get bugfix/security updates (backports excluded of course)
[10:04] <LjL> tag: it *will*. no release of Ubuntu gets new versions of software, only bugfixes and security fixes. you can activate the (at-your-own-risk) backports repository to get some updated packages
[10:04] <cirvin> this states that mjpegtools is avalible to dapper, though its not working
[10:04] <cirvin> ive tried updating sources, but that hasnt worked either
[10:05] <Pacifist> When I'm booting from the CD and select "Start or Install ubuntu" it freezes right before it finishes loading.
[10:05] <tag> LjL: I prefer not to.  Edgy doesn't have firefox 2 does it?
[10:05] <rkd> tag: yes, it does
[10:05] <killown> how I get gnome 2.16 in apt-get?
[10:05] <Moodles> my ubuntu is fucked, updating to edgy has ruined it.. I can't even mount the filesystem.. all I get is this prompt: (initramfs)
[10:06] <Moodles> which i cant do anything with
[10:06] <nixternal> anyone have issues with "6.10 alternate" install with the keyboard dying
[10:06] <nixternal> !language
[10:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:07] <rawrness> holy crap
[10:07] <[GuS] > Guys... could someone tell me how to regenerate all conf. files and rules inside /etc/X11/xkb? because i've deleted cause of xkb layout problem.. but when i reinstall xkb-data does not regenerate/install all rules and conf inside there
[10:09] <killown> when I compile kernel I need make initrd image?
[10:09] <compudaze> killown: yes
[10:10] <Teltariat> greets folks
[10:10] <killown> compudaze how make it?
[10:10] <segfault_> killown, unless u have compoiled all of the drivers u need to boot into ur kernel
[10:10] <Teltariat> how can I check what version of Ubuntu I have?
[10:10] <Teltariat> Is there a "ubuntu versioning" file in /etc or something?
[10:10] <kmaynard> uname -a
[10:10] <killown> segfault_ I compile modules
[10:10] <kmaynard> no, that aint it
[10:10] <killown> I get Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root
[10:10] <Teltariat> no, it ain't.
[10:10] <kmaynard> you use gnome?
[10:10] <Teltariat> yes
[10:11] <segfault_> killown, then yes make an initrd
[10:11] <luz> hi. how to start metacity without gnome?
[10:11] <killown> segfault_ how make it?
[10:11] <kmaynard> look in the System menu..there's an About Ubuntu section
[10:11] <ZirJoker> is kopete compatible with gnome?
[10:11] <compudaze> it'll work
[10:11] <Teltariat> D'oh
[10:11] <Teltariat> so obvious
[10:11] <Teltariat> thanks kmaynard
[10:11] <segfault_> killown, use kernel-package to build ur kernel, read the associated docs that will help
[10:11] <kmaynard> np
[10:12] <killown> ?
[10:12] <segfault_> killown, use kernel-package to build ur kernel, read the associated docs that will help
[10:12] <compudaze> when u install kopete from the premade ubuntu package it'll install the requred libs and will work under gnome
[10:12] <killown> segfault_ but I yet build it
[10:12] <segfault_> compudaze, yes
[10:13] <compudaze> was answering ZirJoker
[10:13] <harleypig> I'm trying to upgrade to kubuntu edgy ... is this the right channel?
[10:13] <compudaze> theres a #kubuntu channel specific to kubuntu
[10:13] <harleypig> thanks
[10:13] <Farm_Fresh> kmaynard:  how do I do that?
[10:13] <segfault_> killown, install the pkg kernel-package, read the docs and man make-kpkg, that can do what u want
[10:14] <henry_> yoyoyo
[10:14] <henry_> kekekeke
[10:14] <henry_> i is teh 1337
[10:14] <compudaze> not really
[10:14] <henry_> h4xxxxxxxxx0r1z3r
[10:14] <blastermaster> how do i make flash 9 use alsa?
[10:14] <finalbeta_> Anyone here who users the "Terminal server client" to connect to a VNC server? When the VNC server has a password, a box comes up, but it doesn't allow you to type anything.
[10:14] <compudaze> just type and press enter
[10:14] <kmaynard> Farm_Fresh: go to mozilla.com, download the linux version. put in in /opt and unpack it there. then run /opt/firefox/firefox and see if it still fubars on you
[10:14] <finalbeta_> Can someone confirm that?
[10:14] <compudaze> nothing will actiually show up
[10:14] <aaronc> anyone else using NVIDIA driver with dual head xinerama after Edgy update successfully?
[10:14] <henry_> UR MOM IS
[10:15] <henry_> USE WINDOWS 95 NOW
[10:15] <henry_> USE WINDOWS 95 NOW
[10:15] <segfault_> !ops
[10:15] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[10:15] <henry_> USE WINDOWS 95 NOW
[10:15] <pir4> what do i lose if i reemplace my amd64 system with a 32bits one? is it worth it ?
[10:15] <henry_> USE WINDOWS 95 NOW
[10:15] <henry_> USE WINDOWS 95 NOW
[10:15] <henry_> USE WINDOWS 95 NOW
[10:15] <eobanb> moron.
[10:15] <Amaranth> lmao
[10:15] <apokryphos> heh
[10:15] <compudaze> pir4: you'll gain for software u can install
[10:15] <Farm_Fresh> nice
[10:15] <aaronc> anyone else using NVIDIA driver with dual head xinerama after Edgy update successfully?
[10:16] <compudaze> pir4: preformance is still good, i have amd64 but run x86
[10:16] <finalbeta_> compudaze, ah, only the big enter works on my keyboard, and it doesn't show any input *, how utterly crappy.
[10:16] <killown> segfault_si what I  do with make-kpkg?
[10:16] <linescanner> aaronc: yep
[10:16] <Farm_Fresh> kmaynard:  haha.. I can't stay online long enough to get it from mozilla
[10:16] <kmaynard> lol
[10:16] <segfault_> killown, read the docs with that pkg, if u still have questions after doing so then i will attempt to help u
[10:16] <kmaynard> hang on
[10:17] <killown> ok
[10:17] <aaronc> linescanner: do you know what version of the NVIDIA binary you are using?  and do you have two cards or a Quadro?
[10:17] <killown> thanks
[10:17] <kmaynard> will send a link
[10:17] <linescanner> one card
[10:17] <eliasz> is there a way to pass ftp a user and password when calling it form the command line, ala ftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[10:17] <navaburo> Issue: Ubuntu freezes with a black screen after i tell it to reboot/shutdown/hibernate/suspend or even "end my session"
[10:17] <Riot777> I'm curious what's the deal with those UUID's in fstab and grub config ? If I will modify some partition I should "generate" new UUID to make it work or what ?
[10:17] <mcphail> eliasz: user:pass@server
[10:17] <aaronc> linescanner: hmmm...  that sucks... X keeps crashing with a backtrace for me
[10:18] <pir4> compudaze,  you sure?
[10:18] <variant> finalbeta_: terminal services and vnc are different
[10:18] <kmaynard> Farm_Fresh: wget http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-2.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
[10:18] <linescanner> aaronc: hold for the version
[10:18] <aaronc> linescanner: thanks
[10:18] <variant> finalbeta_: use rdesktop to connect to terminal server
[10:18] <variant> finalbeta_: not vnc
[10:18] <Farm_Fresh> kmaynard: thanks
[10:18] <finalbeta_> variant, it works now, that interface allows you to select the protocol, normall I just use the commandline anyway.
[10:18] <kmaynard> Farm_Fresh: that may cause probs tho...
[10:18] <kmaynard> i'll get a better link
[10:18] <linescanner> aaronc: 8776.  works a treat
[10:18] <variant> Riot777: those are sysfs identifiers, more unique than just /dev/hda etc
[10:18] <Simian__> i need to convert some ogg files to mp3, what would you guys recomend?
[10:19] <ltr^^^> Hello Hello, how do i install the latest version on my ubuntu edgy machine
[10:19] <ltr^^^>  I have the older version, the offical repos didn't update it yet..
[10:19] <variant> finalbeta_: ok
[10:19] <kmaynard> Farm_Fresh: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/
[10:19] <aaronc> linescanner: how'd you get that newer version?  when I try to install through apt I get 8774
[10:19] <killown> segfault_,  I m using make-kpkg -rev Custom.1 kernel_imag
[10:19] <segfault_> Riot777, ive read those are to make fstab more resilliant to system changes, as too the second part of ur question i would think so but i do not know for sure
[10:19] <linescanner> aaronc: direct from nvidia site
[10:19] <Riot777> if I will modify my disk partitions Ubuntu will make new UUID or I will need to make one somehow ?
[10:19] <aaronc> linescanner: ok... I'll go that route
[10:20] <aaronc> thanks
[10:20] <Farm_Fresh> kmaynard:  what is that second link to?
[10:20] <variant> Riot777: they are generated from information taken from the device it's self
[10:20] <segfault_> killown, man make-kpkg u also need the option for --initrd
[10:20] <Riot777> ok, fair enough
[10:20] <variant> Riot777: they will always be the same for that device
[10:20] <eliasz> mcphail that dont seam to be working for me...
[10:20] <variant> Riot777: you can get it from /sys/device/
[10:20] <linescanner> aaronc:  It aint hard.
[10:20] <Falstiu1> hi, my University wants me to use their binary only cisco compatible vpn client ... is their a vpn client in the repos that can read .pcf files?
[10:20] <ianmacgregor> I use Evolution for email. Is there an app/applet that will let me know when I have new mail even if Evolution isn't open?
[10:20] <Riot777> variant: even if I will f.e. resize partition ?
[10:21] <variant> kmaynard: use wget -c to continue the download if it is interupted.. thats what you were needing right?
[10:21] <kmaynard> Farm_Fresh: the mozilla ftp site
[10:21] <mcphail> ianmacgregor: there used to be, but i think gnome dropped it a couple of years ago
[10:21] <Farm_Fresh> oh thanks
[10:21] <ianmacgregor> mcphail: :(
[10:21] <tat> Falstiu1: try vpnc
[10:22] <segfault_> Falstiu1, i have used ciscos vpn for something similar, iirc there is a linux version available, but i donot believe u will find it in the repositories
[10:22] <variant> Riot777: thats a good question actualy, there are a bunch of different ways to id a device in sysfs, you can use any ofh them.. take a look
[10:22] <Evil_Bill_Gates> ow wrong channel, this isnt #windows :S
[10:22] <Riot777> :)
[10:22] <Farm_Fresh> wow 1100 people in here today... must be a lot of problems.. lol
[10:22] <daniel1983denmar> Hi all
[10:22] <linescanner> aaronc:  there is a good set of steps on the ubuntuforums site  You need to clean up all the old stuff you tried via apt first
[10:22] <aaronc> linescanner: ok
[10:22] <variant> Falstiu1: your better off using the client they reccomend, vpn's are dodgey if you mix software
[10:22] <Simian__> what do i need to install to play mp3
[10:22] <aaronc> linescanner: I'll go reread that stuff and see if I missed something
[10:22] <optimusprime> if I type "sudo apt-get install linux-686" will that update to the latest Kernel?
[10:23] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Simian__ about mpe
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <aum> hi - is dapper->edgy update safe yet?
[10:23] <segfault_> !mp2 | Simian__
[10:23] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Simian__ about mp3
[10:23] <apokryphos> Simian__: read the FAQ first please
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <Falstiu1> segfault_: variant, thanks.
[10:23] <optimusprime> which I think is 2.6.18
[10:23] <segfault_> !mp3 | Simian__
[10:23] <ubotu> Simian__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:23] <killown> segfault_, make-kpkg -rev Custom.1 kernel_image --initrd
[10:23] <Farm_Fresh> kmaynard:  that was a setup.exe link?
[10:23] <apokryphos> dear ubotu doesn't understand please :P
[10:23] <Falstiu1> tat: I looked at vpnc, it doesn't seem to handle the config files.
[10:23] <segfault_> killown, that sounds about right
[10:24] <variant> Farm_Fresh: when it locks up can you not use ctrl alt backspace to kill your gui session?
[10:24] <killown> ok
[10:24] <Newbi8> What's pastebin?
[10:24] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[10:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:24] <linescanner> aaronc: what card you got ?
[10:24] <ploom> eliasz: isn't it<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but man ftp should help
[10:24] <daniel1983denmar> anyone using Ubunto in VMWare ? I can't install the VM ware tool's ?
[10:24] <aaronc> linescanner: nVidia Corporation NV44 [Quadro NVS 285]
[10:24] <Farm_Fresh> variant:  no
[10:25] <variant> Falstiu1: seriously, your just going to give your self a headache if you don't use what they reccomend
[10:25] <aaronc> it worked before I went from 6.06 to 6.10
[10:25] <tat> Falstiu1: i think you need to rewrite the config to vpnc format, shouldnt be that much of a problem.
[10:25] <aaronc> so its been a frustrating morning because of that
[10:25] <variant> Falstiu1: have you tried other browsers? like konqueror or epiphny
[10:25] <variant> Falstiu1: it may not be firefox, perhaps some java component that is present on the system
[10:25] <LjL> apokryphos: actually, it does
[10:26] <variant> tat: the config tey have given him is a binary
[10:26] <tat> ah..
[10:26] <apokryphos> ubotu: please tell LjL about foo
[10:26] <prophet> im having an issue connection to my windows share needs authentication but im not sure what to enter cn someone help?
[10:26] <linescanner> aaronc: you have it working under dapper ?
[10:26] <navaburo> any idea why ubuntu crashes when i logout ?
[10:26] <apokryphos> LjL: oh, indeed; interesting.
[10:26] <variant> prophet: get the password from your network admin
[10:26] <prophet> i dont have a network admin
[10:27] <aaronc> linescanner: yeah... 6.06
[10:27] <prophet> i installed the edgy and now it wants authentication, i never really set a password or anything to access that share
[10:27] <valberg> i need some serious help
[10:28] <prophet> where do i change that? win machine or ubuntu?
[10:28] <variant> prophet: dunno
[10:28] <variant> valberg: you dont want my comedy help? :(
[10:28] <prophet> very much help,
[10:28] <valberg> i updated from dapper to edgy using apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:28] <daniel1983denmar> leave
[10:28] <nashnash> when i try to scan with xsane it scans me a blue paper although the paper is wight, how can i change the option to scan on black and white only? thanks alot for the help i appriciate it
[10:28] <valberg> and now it doesn't even want to connect to the net, not alone start X
[10:28] <segfault_> prophet, u likely need to use ur windows login/pass
[10:29] <prophet> i dont have a login/pass for windows
[10:29] <LjL> !nickspam | WindowzPwnz
[10:29] <ubotu> WindowzPwnz: changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu can get you removed - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users, the same goes for using noisy away see (/msg ubotu away) for more details "/away reason" sets your client away silently, thanks
[10:29] <segfault_> valberg, if u would have readthe instructions on upgrade u would see u must do apt-get updatye && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:29] <WindowzPwnz> sorry
[10:29] <Xzyx987X> ok, ok, here's an easy one. how do you set programs or commands to automatically run when a user logs in?
[10:29] <Music_Shuffle> on KDE or Gnome?
[10:30] <Xzyx987X> kde
[10:30] <nashnash> when i try to scan with xsane it scans me a blue paper although the paper is wight, how can i change the option to scan on black and white only? thanks alot for the help i appriciate it
[10:30] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Xzyx987X about startup
[10:30] <ianmacgregor> Xzyx987X: System -> Preferences -> Sessions, go to the Startup Programs tab
[10:31] <segfault_> Xzyx987X, kde has a folder ~/.kde/Autostart, anything executable in there will be ran
[10:31] <Simian__> i've looked through the FAQ and the ubuntu wiki and I'm haveing trouble finding the package to intall for MP3 playback, any ideas?
[10:31] <linescanner> aaronc:  I feel you may be in for a night of playing :)
[10:31] <segfault_> !mp3 | Simian__
[10:31] <ubotu> Simian__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:32] <aaronc> linescanner: ahhh... nah... I think I just found something I was missing... make prepare scripts in the kernel headers dir.... here's to hoping
[10:32] <Simian__> lol that is the page i have just read through
[10:32] <segfault_> Simian__, that page will answer ur question
[10:32] <Mirro> "you dont have permission to write to this folder"..... what should i do?? is there any "sudo" for this??
[10:32] <linescanner> aaronc:  fingers crossed
[10:32] <Maggotin> My sound is not working, I have a Intel HD audio card, how can I make it work?
[10:33] <segfault_> Mirro, man chod
[10:33] <aaronc> linescanner: I'll be back
[10:33] <segfault_> Mirro, sry man chmod
[10:33] <linescanner> aaronc: :)
[10:33] <valberg> anyone want to help me get my net back after upgrading to edgy ?
[10:33] <nashnash> when i try to scan with xsane it scans me a blue paper although the paper is wight, how can i change the option to scan on black and white only? thanks alot for the help i appriciate it
[10:34] <earthian> !info dmraid
[10:34] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 117 kB, installed size 460 kB
[10:34] <nashnash> !info xsane
[10:34] <ubotu> xsane: GTK+-based X11 frontend for SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy). In component main, is optional. Version 0.99+0.991-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 280 kB, installed size 780 kB
[10:34] <earthian> :(
[10:34] <earthian> still old
[10:34] <Mirro> segfault_: is there any "sudo xcopy this-file that-place" - command??
[10:34] <segfault_> Mirro, cp
[10:34] <earthian> need upgrades of dmraid to work with edgy!!!!!!! \o/
[10:34] <earthian> plz plz
[10:34] <segfault_> Mirro, u can use sudo in fromt of any cmd to run that cmd as root
[10:34] <Pupeno> Does anybody have any idea how to make work the TV out feature of a SiS video card ?
[10:35] <mcphail> segfault_: not _any_ command :)
[10:35] <Falstiu1> Mirro: us 'cp -a' to keep the username and permissions the same (instead of being transfered to the copier such as root)
[10:36] <earthian> how do i get free hdd space?
[10:36] <xst> The mga driver in edgy seems to be broken. Does anyone know when a fix for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-mga/+bug/58721 is available? (Apparently it is fixed in the debian/unstable repository)
[10:36] <mikefoo> Anyone know of a test suite? I just replaced a hard drive and sata controller in a few servers. I want to burn them in for a few days before putting into production. Anyone have a recommendation?
[10:36] <Falstiu1> earthian: from the command line, df -h
[10:37] <earthian> ok thanks
[10:37] <MuPp3t|Eating> Could anyone point me in the direction of a good guide explaining hard drive partitioning? I'm planning to dual boot Ubuntu and XP on a new system.
[10:37] <sam_> OK daftest question ever - how do  i post to the ubuntu forum?
[10:37] <sam_> i cant find the submit/post button anywhere!
[10:37] <ianmacgregor> Ahh, gkrellm has an in-built mail checker
[10:37] <ianmacgregor> :)
[10:37] <landmark> Hello, when i boot ubuntu 6.10 from cd can
[10:38] <landmark> Hello, when i boot ubuntu 6.10 from cd can't start, x server failed on intel 945GM
[10:38] <sam_> where is the post/ submit button on this page pls? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=73
[10:38] <sam_> i am logeed in
[10:39] <MuPp3t> new thread? sam_
[10:39] <linescanner> aaronc: you winning ?
[10:39] <MuPp3t> directly under the last topic, to the left?
[10:39] <sam_> yes
[10:39] <MuPp3t> click "New Thread"?
[10:39] <sam_> thx
[10:39] <Maggotin> Please, how can I make Intel HD audio card work?
[10:39] <MuPp3t> np
[10:40] <terrorblade> hy every1!
[10:40] <nashnash> when i try to scan with xsane it scans me a blue paper although the paper is wight, how can i change the option to scan on black and white only? thanks alot for the help i appriciate it
[10:40] <ryanakca> why is my system very slow after I leave it idling overnight? (well, not idling, boinc runs, but when I don't physically use it)
[10:40] <terrorblade> is it safe to upgrade to edgy?
[10:40] <fm> hi
[10:41] <coastermaster_> i installed the java runtime by going to Applications -> Add/Remove.....and installing Sun Java 5.0 Runtime, but when I type in "java <classname>" it runs using gli
[10:41] <coastermaster_> how do I change this so it runs with java's official interperter?
[10:41] <ezenu> what is the name of the mono c# compiler?
[10:41] <coastermaster> whoops
[10:41] <Bicchi> Q: Are we only going to have generic kernels now?
[10:41] <ryanakca> terrorblade: I would say so... I've been using it since july... just make back ups in case something goes wrong...
[10:41] <fignew> ryanakca: depends on how much you messed with edgy :P
[10:41] <fm> I fucked up my xorg installation, is there a way to brutally reinstall everything related to xorg to have a fresh graphical innstallation, with DRI running and all?
[10:42] <Wodger> ryanakca program "leaks" maybe but at a guess ram used up?
[10:42] <LjL> ryanakca: possibly things get swapped out from RAM to disk. though that's probably not the right explanation, unless the slowness is only initial, when you start tinkering again with the applications you had open
[10:42] <LjL> !language | fm
[10:42] <ubotu> fm: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:42] <terrorblade> 10x
[10:42] <LjL> fm: please elaborate on how you... messed it up
[10:42] <fignew> whoops
[10:42] <fm> trying to install nvidia beta drivers
[10:42] <fm> Xorg complains about API mismatch
[10:43] <fm> I tried to deinstall the beta drivers
[10:43] <LjL> fm: uh, uhm. no idea what that would be :-P
[10:43] <fm> and install xorg-glx instead
[10:43] <Murrlin> where might I find the network card settings? mainly link speed (100/10 half/full)
[10:43] <LjL> ah, the nvidia beta drivers
[10:43] <fm> yes..
[10:43] <ryanakca> fignew: <sarcasm> Oh, I just installed it and looked at it </sarcasm> :D lol, I messed with it, often...
[10:43] <Murrlin> and the ability to change them
[10:43] <fm> I spent an hour trying to get things back to normal, reading the logs and all
[10:43] <Centaur5> I tried upgrading from Dapper but it crippled the system so I want to do a fresh install but it won't boot from text mode or the live cd.  What are my options?
[10:43] <ryanakca> Wodger: ram isn't used up
[10:43] <valberg> when i run "dhclient eht0" i recieve this: "SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied\n SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied\n SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied\n" together with "send_packet: Network is down\n receive: Network is down"
[10:43] <LjL> fm: try this "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx; sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[10:44] <apecat> why won't php work in my apache2? I've installed php5 and its apache module, and enabled it
[10:44] <LjL> fm: (and then re-enable the nvidia driver if that needs be)
[10:44] <fm> ok thx I'll try
[10:44] <fm> pray for me
[10:44] <segfault_> apecat, how doesnt it work
[10:44] <fm> I'm sad of the blue scrren
[10:44] <fm> *sick
[10:44] <fm> reminds me of the good old BSOD
[10:44] <segfault_> valberg, must run as root
[10:45] <aaronc> linescanner: well... no go
[10:45] <apecat> segfault_: doesn't output anything from php code
[10:45] <Music_Shuffle> Lol...BSOD...
[10:45] <aaronc> linescanner: I'm going to google some of the backtrace information
[10:45] <valberg> segfault_: i am running it as root :S
[10:45] <linescanner> aaronc:  hmmm.  what you getting ?
[10:45] <LjL> fm: ah, and remove the nvidia-beta repository from your sources.list, if you have it there
[10:45] <ryanakca> LjL: that's what I thought, and then it took a while to get it back into RAM... but no... even starting new applications, restarting the old ones... moving the mouse, everything is slllooowww for about 15 minutes... (gradually getting faster)... after that and it's back to speed
[10:45] <LjL> fm: (before doing what i said)
[10:45] <fm> I downloaded it from nvidias website direcltly
[10:45] <ryanakca> LjL: just another reason to save up money for a new system :)
[10:45] <apecat> and when i try to open my /phpmyadmin the browser just offers to download the phtml file
[10:46] <LjL> ryanakca: ah, well, then i still think it's a swap issue
[10:46] <DShepherd> hi
[10:46] <LjL> ryanakca: you can tweak the kernel's policies for swapping though
[10:46] <segfault_> valberg, try ifconfig etho up first
[10:46] <LjL> ryanakca: google for /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[10:46] <aaronc> linescanner: something almost exactly like this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200851&highlight=signal+11
[10:46] <ryanakca> LjL: build a custom kernel?
[10:46] <ryanakca> kk
[10:46] <donfilipo> anyone expert in media streams on Edgy? I have troubles watching streams... files from HDD play well avi,wmv,even ram files no problem but clicking on a hidden link on the web stream files usualy end with error...anyone can help????
[10:47] <segfault_> apecat, u have to set apache to see those files as code by extensions, i think the php module just uses .php
[10:47] <linescanner> aaronc:  don't you just hate find a match but with no answer :(
[10:47] <Maggotin> Can anybody help me installing alsa?
[10:47] <LjL> ryanakca: no, you can just change the "aggressiveness" of swapping using that /proc file -- basically it decides how likely the kernel is to swap *programs* out of memory in favor of *data* (i.e. file cache)
[10:47] <aaronc> linescanner: yep
[10:48] <ryanakca> LjL: ah, kk
[10:49] <aaronc> linescanner: how could I purge everything Xserver-Xorg related ?
[10:49] <LjL> ryanakca: i think setting it to "0" means processes *never* get swapped out of RAM to make space for caching, while 100 is the most aggressive setting. i could be swapping this, though
[10:50] <linescanner> aaronc: hmmm not sure
[10:50] <aaronc> linescanner: ok
[10:50] <LjL> ryanakca: err, and the pun was not intended =)
[10:50] <linescanner> aaronc: hold on let me dig back through something I book marked
[10:50] <hot_wheelz> hi guys I am trying to setup MythTV but it comes with an error (error processing mythtv-database exit status 1)
[10:51] <rcmiv> on a fresh install of 6.10 I cannot get a terminal with ctrl-F2, I just get the splash screen
[10:51] <dusk> if i wanted the lightest weight install (from scratch), could I get the server release and build up as I go?
[10:52] <Kyral> dusk: yes
[10:52] <linescanner> aaronc:  can you just force a reinstall of Xserver ???
[10:52] <rcmiv> anyone experiencing similar?
[10:52] <Flannel> dusk: you'll want to swap out your kernel to the normal desktop ones
[10:52] <aaronc> linescanner: tried that
[10:52] <necosi_> hello
[10:52] <linescanner> aaronc: hmmmm
[10:52] <necosi_> i have nvidia
[10:52] <Moodles> what happened to "Disks" that was in Dapper, but not in Edgy?
[10:52] <dusk> flannel: then couldnt I just get the Desktop CD version and install it as a server?
[10:53] <necosi_> and i have spend 4 days to install compiz :(
[10:53] <statters> I have a 80GB hard drive 30 GB  is devided between hda1 and swap space,,, I have 50 GB free space but cannot seem to create afat32  partiton using qtparted ,some error about device busy and possible data corruption,,, I assumued it would be possible to create a partiton whilst logged......any ideas as to how I can create this partition?
[10:53] <ryanakca> LjL: ok, it's set to 60, I'm guessing I'd want to reduce it to 45? or would I want to make it 75?
[10:53] <rcmiv> Moodles, it is gone, not being developed anymore
[10:53] <linescanner> aaronc:  you got the 8776 driver ?
[10:53] <GnarusLeo> hi! why cant you get the latest amarok release in edgy? I want to add http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/dists/ to my repos .. but it only has edgy ..
[10:53] <aaronc> linescanner: yep
[10:53] <Flannel> dusk: you don't have that option in the desktop CD, but from the alternate CD, yes.  But, from the server install, installing the desktop kernel is no big deal either.
[10:54] <Moodles> rcmiv: so I have to mount drives manually by commandline now?
[10:54] <samuel> sup all
[10:54] <rcmiv> Moodles, I guess...ticked me off as well
[10:54] <dusk> Flannel: ok thanks
[10:54] <Flannel> dusk: the alternate CD has a 'server' install option, which just installs a GUIless system, the 'server' CD installs a special server kernel (and gives you the LAMP preinstall option),
[10:54] <LjL> ryanakca: you'd want to reduce it, again if i'm not getting this wrong. how much RAM do you have? i'd set it to like 30, with half a gig, but that's just me, there has been heated debate among the kernel developers themselves about what a "good value for everyone" is, i think
[10:55] <statters> I even created a partiton using ranish partition manager from a boot cd but it wont show in qtparted just says the space is free :(
[10:55] <samuel> im going to try port the new gnome-system-tools that ubuntu has in edgy-eft to archlinux... can someone tell me please the new name of the package? is it still gnome-system-tools?
[10:55] <samuel> the user admin and similar
[10:55] <samuel> tools
[10:55] <coastermaster> I imagine that once I've installed the .deb files, I don't have to hold on to them, correct?
[10:55] <dusk> Flannel: im looking for a system with just fluxbox and some assorted gtk themes
[10:55] <dusk> Flannel: not much more
[10:55] <Flannel> dusk: are you on dialup? or is bandwidth not an issue?
[10:55] <dusk> Flannel: fios
[10:55] <linescanner> aaronc:  you cleaned out all this stuff nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-xconfig etc
[10:55] <Zyfo> When I've got autohide on a panel I need to hold the mouse over it for a while until it shows. How can I decrease the time needed to show the panel?
[10:55] <LjL> ryanakca: just look at here http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000 (and no, i think i got it right -- lower number = less aggressive swapping)
[10:55] <towsonu2003> statters, you shouldn't partition a mounted drive. you could use something like this http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:55] <blastermaster> anyone having problems with flash 9 beta and alsa?
[10:56] <Daviey> is this channel logged?
[10:56] <LjL> Daviey: yes
[10:56] <dusk> Daviey: im logging it
[10:56] <blastermaster> anyone?
[10:56] <LjL> !anyone
[10:56] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:57] <Flannel> dusk: fios?  well, the server CD is 400mb, the ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu alternate CD is ~700mb, those come with the desktop, and some additional packages ontop of those.  All three of the latter have 'server' install options.
[10:57] <Daviey> LjL, dusk, where can i view the log?
[10:57] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Daviey about logs
[10:57] <statters> towsonu2003:  I used Ultimate boot disk to create partiton (live CD) but still it does not show in disk manager, just reports it as free space
[10:57] <Daviey> !logs
[10:57] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[10:57] <dusk> Flannel: heh, fios is verizons fiber connection
[10:57] <statters> thanks for info ill chk it out
[10:57] <blastermaster> ok bye
[10:57] <Daviey> LjL, thank you
[10:57] <rcmiv> on a fresh install of 6.10 I cannot get a terminal with ctrl-F2, I just get the splash screen
[10:57] <dusk> Flannel: so I could get the alternative install and build from server?
[10:58] <rcmiv> anyone experiencing similar?
[10:58] <terrorblade> blastermaster , I have problems wit flash
[10:58] <dusk> Flannel: and not have to worry about that pesky "root" problem
[10:58] <terrorblade> but alsa works fine
[10:58] <Flannel> dusk: certainly.  the 'server' option will install a normal GUI-less linux install
[10:58] <aaronc> linescanner: yep
[10:58] <LjL> rcmiv: well, it should be *alt*+f2 (or ctrl+alt+f2 if you start from inside X), not ctrl
[10:58] <aaronc> linescanner: AFK for a few moments
[10:58] <jcanfield> Looks like the LDAPcleintauth documentation is wrong, how do I fix it?
[10:58] <linescanner> aaronc:  ok
[10:58] <blastermaster> do u know a work arroung terrorblade
[10:59] <rcmiv> Ljl, oh yeah, my mistake, ctrl+alt+f2....still doesn't work, all i get is the splash
[10:59] <LjL> rcmiv: same with the other terminals? F1 F3 etc?
[10:59] <rcmiv> yep
[10:59] <earthian> rcmiv i get tty2 console
[10:59] <Flannel> jcanfield: which documentation?
[10:59] <ryanakca> LjL: yeah, that's what I was looking at :)
[10:59] <alecjw> does anyone know how i can get amarok to use gstreamer rather than xine?
[10:59] <rcmiv> i should try booting nosplash
[10:59] <terrorblade> nop .... sorry
[11:00] <LjL> ryanakca: unsurprising, since it's google's i-feel-lucky for "swappiness" ;-)
[11:00] <rcmiv> earthian, yeah that's what I should be getting
[11:00] <aaronc> linescanner: well... hello TwinView, bye bye Xinerama
[11:00] <dk0r> How do I uninstall ubuntu from a partition on my powerbook? I cannot find any documentation :(
[11:00] <aaronc> linescanner: working now
[11:00] <ryanakca> LjL: lol :)
[11:00] <LjL> rcmiv: tried ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X, and then ctrl+alt+f2 again?
[11:00] <jcanfield> Flannel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication
[11:00] <Flannel> dk0r: just format it to whatever else you want
[11:00] <rcmiv> Ljl, yep
[11:00] <dk0r> Flannel: How?
[11:00] <n1gke> Good evening folks.
[11:00] <Flannel> jcanfield: that's wikified, so log in and change it
[11:00] <dk0r> Flannel: Do I need the ubuntu live disc?
[11:00] <rcmiv> f7 works, but no go on f2..3..4.. etc
[11:00] <jcanfield> Flannel, k
[11:00] <Flannel> dk0r: whatever partition tools are on OSX, or you could use a liveCD, sure.
[11:01] <Flannel> jcanfield: and, thanks for your help ;)
[11:01] <rcmiv> weird...i did notice the splash didn't finish (the ornage line)
[11:01] <dk0r> Flannel: The osx native partition tool is called disk utility, it does not recognize the ubuntu partition.
[11:01] <dusk> heh
[11:01] <linescanner> aaronc:  doh.  Me being Blonde.  I didn't read your first post properly.  Mine is Twinview Xinerama sucks
[11:01] <dk0r> Flannel: So I guess I am forced to use the ubuntu live disc, right ?
[11:01] <dusk> where the h is the bt dl
[11:01] <Flannel> dk0r: should still be able to partition it, even if it's an unknown filetype
[11:01] <rcmiv> they should have called it buggy instead of edgy
[11:01] <Shadow_mil> gdm and Xorg are running, but I don't see anything
[11:01] <jcanfield> Flannel, I'm catching hell with the new nss_ldap.
[11:01] <linescanner> arronc:  sorry.  Been a long day
[11:01] <mikeconcepts> any current howto for vnc into edgy with beryl?
[11:01] <aaronc> linescanner: heheh...  Xinerama does suck... thanks for the help
[11:02] <ryanakca> LjL: ok, so this guy says that he has 100 because he feels swapping out is "bad"... so is my problem that it doesn't swap out enough (meaning that I want a lower number) or that it swaps out too much which means it takes longer to load back into ram (which means I want a higher number)
[11:02] <linescanner> aaronc: np
[11:02] <Daviey> .whowas yango
[11:02] <mikeconcepts> any x11vnc users with edgy and beryl?
[11:02] <rambo3> j #php.se
[11:02] <eliasz> is there any command i can run, to return the date in a YYYYMMDD format? without having to write a complicated script to parse output form date?
[11:02] <linescanner> arronc:  Once you have 2 displays working, it is soooo crap going back to one
[11:03] <ehird> My X problem happens again after a reboot.
[11:03] <LjL> ryanakca: uhm no, as i read it, he's set it at 100 because he feels swapping is *good* - "My point is that *decreasing* the tendency of the kernel to swap stuff out is *wrong*"  (emphasis mine)
[11:03] <dk0r> Does anyone know where the removal of ubuntu from a powerbooks partition is documented?
[11:03] <ehird> I'm just going to use windows.
[11:03] <LjL> ryanakca: but, as others have objected, on an interactive system the user might dislike waiting too long for applications to come up after they've been swapped out -- which is why you should try setting it to a *low* value
[11:03] <ehird> It may suck but it works.
[11:03] <ryanakca> LjL: ah... kk, ty
[11:03] <dusk> does anyone know the most active torrent for ubuntu?
[11:04] <ryanakca> LjL: I have a feeling he's a non-xorg+aiglx+beryl type of guy :)
[11:04] <Flannel> dk0r: if disk manager can't do it, then boot up a liveCD, partition it to free space, or to something that disk man. can read, like... maybe fat or something
[11:04] <LjL> ryanakca: hehe yeah, i guess the same :)
[11:05] <nashnash> i cant set my printer to print more than 1 page, when i try to print from the lan from anoter window computer, plz help
[11:05] <datil> can anyone confirm that Edgy Eft release supports intel ICH8 sata controller and JMicron pata controller? (asus p5b motherboard)
[11:05] <ryanakca> LjL: of course, I could fix all my problems by getting a new machine with more ram... (12mb free ram left... *gulps*)
[11:05] <PeeCee> I just installed Xgl, Corpiz and Beryl - it seems to work fine, but when i press the Arrow Down key, ubuntu starts Evolution - do anybody know how to remove this shortcut?
[11:06] <LjL> ryanakca, i don't think so (i mean, that you have "12mb left") -- how did you look at the RAM you've left?
[11:06] <coastermaster> how do I recover from a botched package installation?
[11:06] <earthian> datil you can try that with ubuntu edgy eft livecd
[11:06] <Flannel> PeeCee: you might ask in #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl
[11:06] <coastermaster> i can copy and paste the terminal info from the install, but I don't know where to paste it
[11:06] <alecjw> can anyone help me work out what packages i need to play mp3's with the xine engine please?
[11:06] <killown> I cannot get kernel <IP_ADDRESS> in apt-get , what repository has it kernel?
[11:06] <ryanakca> LjL: top... 11640k free,  (unless I've forgotten how to convert 'k' into 'mb')
[11:06] <datil> earthian, yeah well.. but before wasting another dvd-r (6.06 LTS freezes when loading the livecd)..
[11:07] <PeeCee> Flannel.. ok.. i'll try that
[11:07] <TGPO> killown compile it
[11:07] <killown> TGPO I want binary
[11:07] <toulouse> hey i forgot, how to i join another room?
[11:07] <Flannel> killown: Edgy has 2.6.17, you won't find 2.6.18 in it
[11:07] <LjL> ryanakca: no, you didn't forget anything. it's just that it's normal -- linux caches aggressively. most of that "used up" memory is really going to be freed up as soon as a program requests it
[11:07] <segfault_> killown, none
[11:07] <Flannel> toulouse: /join #[room]
[11:07] <TGPO> killown then you have to wait for them to distribute it
[11:07] <LjL> ryanakca: i've got 8mb "free" myself
[11:08] <ryanakca> LjL: ouch, how much ram in total?
[11:08] <TGPO> killown the only way to get it right now is do it yourself
[11:08] <coastermaster> i screwed up installing jedit (downloaded the .deb file and ran 'sudo dpkg -i jedit_4.3pre6_all.deb') and it didn't install correctly and now I can't undo what I've done
[11:08] <exhale> i installed libxine-extracodecs and amarok still cant play mp3s, anyone got any ideas?
[11:08] <earthian> datil use cdrw :)
[11:08] <coastermaster> I tried dpkg --purge jedit, but that didn't work
[11:08] <datil> heh
[11:08] <pir4> h6w can i set up my super key ? can someone help me ?
[11:08] <meh> l
[11:08] <TGPO> exhale xmms
[11:08] <earthian> datil btw i believe ubuntu livecds are not dvds
[11:08] <mkruskamp> Im trying to connect my wireless to the Network at school and am running into some issues. It is a radius server running on Windows domain.. it is using dynamic WEP with 2 stage authentication MSCHAPV2 and PEAP. Anyone know how to connect to it?
[11:08] <killown> Flannel edgy has packs current?
[11:08] <LjL> ryanakca: half a gig
[11:08] <killown> edgy is the best?
[11:08] <Shadow_mil2> how do I install xgl on ubuntu edgy?
[11:08] <ryanakca> LjL: 375mb here... :S
[11:08] <dusk> er, its been awhile since I dual booted a computer.. do I install windows first THEN linux?
[11:09] <datil> earthian, well, there're those dvd releases that include both the livecd part and the alternate installs,etc part if i'm not wrong
[11:09] <Shadow_mil2> dusk: yes
[11:09] <TGPO> killown yes
[11:09] <Flannel> killown: what? yes, edgy is the most recent kernels you'll find
[11:09] <killown> ok thanks
[11:09] <Shadow_mil2> how do I install xgl on ubuntu edgy?
[11:09] <Flannel> dusk: that's easiest, if you do it the other way around, you'll need to reinstall grub after windows overwrites it
[11:09] <pir4> Shadow_mil,  #ubuntu-xgl
[11:09] <alecjw> dusk: hat would be a good idea, otherwise windoze takes over your mbr and you can't get to grub/boot ubuntu
[11:09] <mkruskamp> Im trying to connect my wireless to the Network at school and am running into some issues. It is a radius server running on Windows domain.. it is using dynamic WEP with 2 stage authentication MSCHAPV2 and PEAP. Anyone know how to connect to it?
[11:10] <PeeCee> Shadow_mil.. I followed this guide: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/XGL/Compiz_Nvidia_32bit
[11:10] <Shish> dusk: if you're installing two OSes on one disk, make sure that the windows partition doesn't use up all the space
[11:10] <LjL> ryanakca: it's still fine. now i don't quite remember what's the correct way to see the amount of memory that's just used by caching, but i *think* it should be the "cache" column when you type "vmstat" -- it's going to be a big value, i think
[11:10] <LjL> ryanakca: which really can be considered (again, if i'm correct that it's the right number to look at) as free memory
[11:10] <earthian> LjL you can use top cmd to see memory status
[11:10] <dusk> Shish: I have a giant ntfs onboard raid.. all my files will be there
[11:10] <spawn> hello everyone
[11:11] <earthian> or use gnome-system-manager that shows free memory without caches
[11:11] <ryanakca> LjL: 109880k... not bad... :D
[11:11] <okiweb> et ta mr-er
[11:11] <LjL> earthian: alright, but what is the figure that tells me what the caching is? "Cached" under the "Swap" row?
[11:11] <LjL> (don't have gnome)
[11:11] <ryanakca> LjL: I'll let you know if having it set to  '45' instead of 60 makes any difference tommorow when I come back :)
[11:11] <earthian> oh
[11:12] <LjL> ryanakca: well, i've got 190Mb. fits with the fact that i have >100mb more RAM than you
[11:12] <variant> LjL: try vmstat -a
[11:12] <spawn> Hey Im new to linux.. can anyone tell me how can I log in as root..? I need to delete some files that are only editable by root?
[11:12] <gevaudan82> Hello all...has anyone installed network-manager-gnome on Ubuntu? I have but there's no shortcut on Gnome's panel and I have no idea what the binary is called...any ideas?
[11:12] <variant> spawn: sudo -i
[11:12] <Farm_Fresh> ugg... still having the lockup issue.. Now when epifiney (sp*?) and firefox...  I hasn't happened with any other programs that I am aware of
[11:12] <spawn> thanks variant
[11:12] <gevaudan82> spawn: either use sudo or enable root by typing sudo passwd root
[11:12] <LjL> ryanakca: i'd set it to at least 30, or less. even try 0 for kicks -- that's probably exaggerate, but if you want to be sure you see an effect...
[11:12] <Zyfo> When I've got autohide on a panel I need to hold the mouse over it for a while until it shows. How can I decrease the time needed to show the panel?
[11:12] <variant> gevaudan82: yes, it is a service that is started automatically
[11:13] <coz_> spawn, I can but unfortunaltey most of the users in here will tell you NOT to log in as root
[11:13] <LjL> ryanakca: really, i'd just try 0 for one night, at least you'll know for sure if you've pinpointed the problem
[11:13] <coz_> but if you want to know i can tell you
[11:13] <variant> gevaudan82: killall gnome-panel and it will restart
[11:13] <gevaudan82> variant: isn't there supposed to be an icon in the tray though? it looks like it according to the website
[11:13] <Flannel> spawn: you use sudo, no need to set a root password
[11:13] <gevaudan82> variant: ahh ok, thanks
[11:13] <coz_> spawn, but if you want to know I can tell you
[11:13] <coastermaster> how would I go about fixing this error I get when trying to do anything related to packages:
[11:13] <coastermaster> woah, didn't paste
[11:13] <LjL> variant: uhm, that gives me an "inact" column instead of a "buff" column... how would i interpret that?
[11:13] <phillip> can someone help me set up wine
[11:13] <Flannel> coastermaster: don't paste ;)  use pastebin
[11:13] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell phillip about wine
[11:13] <coz_> spawn, you still want to know?
[11:14] <TGPO> phillip apt-get install wine
[11:14] <necosi_> hello, i have installed 6.10 now, and i have nvidia no legacy and i have make apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:14] <TGPO> phillip wone-cfg
[11:14] <earthian> LjL better use some value up to 5 ... having 0 might cause out of memory problems.. and some low value would allow system swap stuff anyway (thats my point of view)
[11:14] <spawn> im looking for you name for priv.
[11:14] <TGPO> phillip wine-cfg
[11:14] <necosi_> nvidia-..... enable
[11:14] <necosi_> but busid = 0:5:0 so it have crash
[11:14] <variant> LjL: active memory and inactive memory, am i not on the same wavelength as you guys or what?
[11:14] <coz_> spawn, is your nic registered
[11:14] <LjL> earthian: the system will *still* swap out applications AFAIK, it just won't swap them out in favour of file caching
[11:14] <mrdude> anyone know alot about XGL ?
[11:14] <ryanakca> LjL: kk
[11:15] <j-swim> hey folks, is it really necessary to use mythtv to use a tv-tuner card (pvr 150)?
[11:15] <necosi_> later nvidia-... disable but gdm have problem to restart...
[11:15] <Flannel> mrdude: try #ubuntu-xgl
[11:15] <mrdude> its plaguing me
[11:15] <gevaudan82> variant: i just did a killall gnome-panel and it refreshed but still no icon...do i need to reboot or something?
[11:15] <mrdude> sounds good
[11:15] <mrdude> thanks
[11:15] <ryanakca> !xgl | mrdude
[11:15] <ubotu> mrdude: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:15] <variant> gevaudan82: no, definately not
[11:15] <coz_> spawn, that is ok I can tell you if you want to know
[11:15] <coz_> spawn, open a terminal
[11:15] <phillip> thanks everyone. another Q. im on breezy atm. should i upgrade to edgy eft or am i fine where i am. if so is there an scrip to update automatically
[11:15] <variant> gevaudan82: thats odd, i get the icon in my notification area, you will need that to be part of the panel
[11:15] <ryanakca> LjL: any other cool things about tweaking linux that I should know?
[11:16] <LjL> variant, basically ryanakca was worried that he had "only 10mb of free memory", and i explained that much of the "taken up" memory is really just used for caching, and will be freed at once when needed -- i just wasn't sure of which figure to look at to actually find out what the "really free" memory was (or, conversely, how much memory was taken up by caching)
[11:16] <ryanakca> LjL: automaticly I'm typing faster than it shows up on the screen...
[11:16] <coz_> spawn, let me know when you have it
[11:16] <gevaudan82> variant: i had notification area added b/c i use checkgmail which relies on that...after killing all even that doesn't show up
[11:16] <variant> LjL: i see
[11:16] <Geoffrey2> phillip, you can only upgrade to Edgy from Dapper
[11:16] <LjL> ryanakca: that's a bit generic ;)
[11:16] <Flannel> phillip: if you're upgrading from breezy you'll want to upgrade to dapper first.  And, you'll probably be satisfied with dapper.  In six months breezy won't be supported anymore, just... so you know long term
[11:16] <bimberi> phillip: breezy is still supported, so that's fine.  Upgrade if you're wanting later versions
[11:16] <ryanakca> LjL: well, sorry
[11:16] <ryanakca> :P
[11:16] <bimberi> !upgrade | phillip
[11:16] <ubotu> phillip: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[11:16] <coz_> spawn, you still there guy?
[11:17] <gevaudan82> variant: got checkgmail back by running the binary again but still no network-manager
[11:17] <variant> ryanakca: if you want to really speed up your swap space you can have two small fast hard disks both swap and set priority=0 for both of them in fstab, kinda like a swap raid :) makes them twice as fast
[11:17] <spawn> I send u a prive coz
[11:17] <variant> gevaudan82: just a sek
[11:17] <magyar> hi all
[11:17] <coz_> spawn is your nic registered?
[11:17] <j-swim> hey folks, is it really necessary to use mythtv to use a tv-tuner card (pvr 150)?
[11:17] <nashnash> i cant set my printer to print more than 1 time printing, when i try to print from the lan from anoter window computer, plz help
[11:17] <spawn> no
[11:17] <LjL> ryanakca: well, i guess i might know some more "tricks", but i'm not sure i could think of them out of my head, without a specific topic being brought up... anyway, the /proc and /sys filesystems are always interesting. and dangerous at times, too ;)
[11:17] <alecjw> what plugins do i need to play mp3's im amarok?
[11:17] <ryanakca> LjL: what if I told you ever 2-3 seconds, 4-5 lines just popped up ini my channel windows instead of 1 line at a time ?
[11:17] <valberg> i have a problem regarding the removal of a failed installation of samba
[11:17] <spawn> i just installed xchat
[11:17] <^Ocean^> j-swim: i use one called TV time
[11:17] <dusk> spawn: now uninstall it and use irssi
[11:17] <valberg> when i try to remove samba or samba-common it just fails
[11:17] <alecjw> !mp3
[11:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:18] <gevaudan82> alecjw: install w32codecs and then when you try to play an mp3 file, amarok should automatically install the other dependency
[11:18] <ryanakca> LjL: ooh, danger... now, I'm going to make that number bigger, this is being a pain...
[11:18] <^Ocean^> but its just a basic tv tuner software nothing fancy
[11:18] <LjL> ryanakca: i'd tell you it's the same here
[11:18] <valberg> and when i try to run apt-get -f install it also fails
[11:18] <TGPO> irssi ??? if you want broke
[11:18] <pedrocr> I'm trying to join 4 disks in RAID5 and then run LVM on them. The installation went fine using the edgy server image but now I can't get lilo to install anywhere. I've tried /dev/md0 /dev/sda and /dev/sda1
[11:18] <bimberi> valberg: put the error message on a pastebin
[11:18] <coz_> spawn, don't worry about it I can tell you here
[11:18] <donfilipo> oho hi coz_ you're here again remember my troubles with streaming videos...i did everything on that how to site but the problem seems to be deeper
[11:18] <bimberi> !pastebin
[11:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:18] <watson540> hrm, anyone know if i can change the framebuffer (console) resolution from within it, i know how to change it at boot through grub but i want to change it on the fly
[11:18] <LjL> ryanakca: there must be some server lag (and my Konversation's scrolling is a bit harsh as well)
[11:18] <variant> gevaudan82: ok, sorry you need to run nm-applet
[11:18] <coz_> donfilipo, ah oh
[11:18] <LjL> ryanakca: why's it a pain?
[11:18] <coz_> donfilipo, that is not good
[11:18] <pedrocr> is putting every partition inside LVM inside RAID5 supported?
[11:18] <j-swim> ^Ocean^: ok, so you didn't have to install mythtv then to get it to work right?
[11:18] <valberg> something about a dangling symlink
[11:18] <variant> gevaudan82: bear in mind htat I have had hellish problems with networking in edgy
[11:19] <ryanakca> LjL: beryl isn't running smoothly anymore, mouse gets stuck in places, etc
[11:19] <coz_> donfilipo, what is happenin now
[11:19] <variant> gevaudan82: different network managers fighting over the ip address etc.. its a big mess (for me
[11:19] <j-swim> ^Ocean^: what tv-tuner card do you have?
[11:19] <spawn> coz_ can u c my priv I send u?
[11:19] <coz_> spawn, no maybe because you nic is not registered
[11:19] <gevaudan82> variant: hmm, this is kind of my experience over the weekend...thought i'd give network-manager another go around...i can run the applet but it says no networks have been found...not really anything else i can do it looks like
[11:19] <LjL> ryanakca: i'd give it some minutes to settle down -- perhaps it's just swapping in stuff that it'd swapped out, now.
[11:19] <alecjw> thanks, gevaudan82
[11:19] <donfilipo> listen coz_ my avi,wmv,and even ram files work from HDD in almost any player but no stream works in browser...so it's not codecs
[11:19] <LjL> ryanakca: if it's still like this in 5 minutes or so, then set it higher
[11:19] <elriah> 6.10 rocks
[11:20] <variant> gevaudan82: do you use wireless? fixed ip/ dhcp?
[11:20] <ryanakca> LjL: kk
[11:20] <variant> gevaudan82: i can probably help you fix it
[11:20] <coz_> donfilipo, well adk around here someone might have the answer for you
[11:20] <gevaudan82> variant: i'm on wireless now but i use both...at my apartment i use static ips, at work dhcp
[11:20] <coz_> donfilipo, I am sorry I couldn't help you more
[11:20] <variant> LjL: what is he "setting"?
[11:20] <beau> hi
[11:20] <xerophyte> I am aware kde has Kdevelop for GUI Programming env, is there anything like that for the gnome ??
[11:20] <variant> gevaudan82: and nothing is working reliably?
[11:20] <ryanakca> variant: kk, aka, 800mb and 4gig?
[11:20] <spawn> so how do I register my nick?
[11:20] <bimberi> xerophyte: anjuta
[11:20] <mcphail> xerophyte: anjuta
[11:20] <ryanakca> variant: /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[11:20] <variant> ryanakca: what?
[11:21] <variant> ryanakca: ok
[11:21] <coz_> spawn, well right now lets get your root thing settled
[11:21] <coz_> spawn, are you ready?
[11:21] <spawn> ok
[11:21] <ryanakca> variant: for the faster swap...
[11:21] <spawn> yeah
[11:21] <coz_> spawn, first open a terminal
[11:21] <beau> so im having some problems accessing my windows files through a live cd ubuntu
[11:21] <gevaudan82> variant: i'm on my laptop running ubuntu now so networking is fine...i just want to use nm-applet to manage my connections instea do fhte Networking app under the System menu...currently i'm using that and wifi radar
[11:21] <spawn> its open
[11:21] <donfilipo> coz_ can you confirm anyone has working streams on edgy with gnome...if that is the case i will reinstall
[11:21] <coz_> spawn, the type this in sudo passwd root  that is not mispelled
[11:21] <bimberi> beau: problems?
[11:22] <LjL> variant: /proc/sys/vm/swappiness -- leaves the system on all night (with BOINC running, also), and the day after the system is quite slow for some 15 minutes. i think aggressive swapping out of processes in favor of filecaching by the kernel may be the culrpit
[11:22] <variant> ryanakca: yeah, i was thinking a partition at hte start of each of your hard disks made to swap (the fastest part of the disk is the outside edgy) and set all the priorities to 0
[11:22] <coz_> donfilipo, I use streaming stuff in firefox all the time
[11:22] <spawn> ok its asking me for unix pass
[11:22] <beau> yeah i am pretty new to ubuntu, ive got some linux distros on some old machines but i dont really use them for more than browsing
[11:22] <coz_> spawn, put in your password then I usually use the same password for the root account as well
[11:22] <donfilipo> coz_ you have edgy and gnome?
[11:22] <halorgium> if i have an ICH8/R chipset, am i screwed?
[11:22] <coz_> donfilipo, yes i do
[11:22] <Juanpablo> (()) info
[11:22] <LjL> ryanakca: but anyway, a setting of 0 or even 5 probably *is* a bit excessive (though i'm sure on that kerneltrap link, or similar pages, you'll see plenty of people using it) -- i'm really just suggesting that you try it for one night. then set it to 30 or something
[11:22] <gevaudan82> donfilipo: best bet is to install mediaconnectivity..it's a plugin for firefox that lets you launch all media in its native viewer without relying on plugins...you might have better luck than relying on embedded video
[11:23] <variant> LjL: thats cool, i hav eused gnu/linux but i never new about /proc/sys/vm/swappiness :) although i think i heard it mentioned back when i was a noob and it flew over my head :P
[11:23] <beau> im wondering if there is a way to access my windows files through the live cd
[11:23] <spawn> it said passowrd updated successfully
[11:23] <coz_> donfilipo, I suggest that you don't use automatix next time i haven't tested that wiht edgy yet
[11:23] <variant> LjL: i have used gnu/linux for years * i ment to se
[11:23] <bimberi> beau: ok, but please give us some more details on the problems if you're after some help
[11:23] <variant> say
[11:23] <coz_> spawn, where are we guy
[11:23] <bimberi> beau: where are the files
[11:23] <bimberi> ?
[11:23] <variant> beau: yeah, just mount the disk
[11:23] <gevaudan82> beau: yes by following the guide concerning ntfs at ubuntuguide.org...if it's fat32 however you can just mount it
[11:23] <spawn> it said now passoword updated successfuly
[11:23] <variant> gevaudan82: he can just mount it if its ntfs
[11:23] <beau> yeah it's fat32 on hda0
[11:24] <coz_> spawn remeber that pasword ... you now have a root account but now we have to allow root to log in
[11:24] <gevaudan82> variant: even to write?
[11:24] <spawn> ok
[11:24] <earthian> hmm.. i just happened to think of a question: i have 2 SATA HDDs that are connected to my SATA RAID controller which is a software one.. I have used dmraid utility to make the RAID0 array usable in dapper. I have partitioned the RAID disk into 3 partitions (boot, swap and root). Now dmraid is not working with edgy. Do you know if if i install edgy on a single PATA HDD would i be able to reuse my SATA RAID later? i.e. mount it somewhere or so. ??
[11:24] <coz_> spawn, go to system administrator login window
[11:24] <beau> mount /hda0 ?
[11:24] <variant> beau: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt (presumably its 1)
[11:24] <apecat> I earlier mentioned a problem with php and phpmyadmin on apache. Now i can load and execute .php files, but when i try to access my phpmyadmin directory my browser throws a download dialogue for a phtml file in my face. what should i do?
[11:24] <variant> beau: then ls /mnt
[11:24] <beau> kk thx guys
[11:24] <coz_> spawn, are you there
[11:24] <phillip> i love you guys :D so much info
[11:24] <variant> beau: you might need to use sudo to mount it
[11:25] <spawn> yeah
[11:25] <spawn> im reading u
[11:25] <Hoobly> I've got very dumb questions about getting ubuntu installed on an old imac.  Who can help?
[11:25] <gevaudan82> beau: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda0 /mnt/location
[11:25] <coz_> now go under the security tab
[11:25] <variant> gevaudan82: no, i guess not. but thats not what he asked :)
[11:25] <earthian> maybe somebody could suggest me an alternate way to use my partitioned RAID under edgy without dmraid and keeping all data there ?
[11:25] <coz_> spawn, go under the security tab and tick the allow adminstrator log on
[11:25] <variant> gevaudan82: you dont need to speciy hte format
[11:25] <bimberi> Hoobly: oldworld imac?
[11:25] <TGPO> spawn with this much traffic it helps to use the persons name when you start typing
[11:25] <earthian> its around 300gigs of used spave /o\
[11:25] <coz_> spawn, did you do that
[11:25] <earthian> space*
[11:25] <Hoobly> bimberi: aye!
[11:25] <gevaudan82> variant: isn't that what the -t is for?
[11:25] <bimberi> !oldworld | Hoobly
[11:26] <ubotu> Hoobly: For installation on Old World PowerMacs see this URL https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[11:26] <spawn> coz_ yes i did
[11:26] <Hoobly> bimberi: os 9.2
[11:26] <donfilipo> gevaudan82 thanks i will try that...coz if that does not work i will probably reinstall this was a upgrade from dapper and first time i messed with real player installation i probably should have used the sudo and after that i was lost
[11:26] <variant> gevaudan82: yeah, you DONT need to use it :)
[11:26] <coz_> spawn,  ok now all you have to do is log off log in with root and the passowrd you used
[11:26] <variant> gevaudan82: mount guesses the filesystem 99.9999% of the time correctly
[11:26] <gevaudan82> variant: err, i misread you, thanks for pointing this out
[11:26] <spawn> coz_ thanks
[11:26] <alecjw> is there any way of making amarok automatically sync it's collection with my portable media player?
[11:26] <coz_> spawn, no problem be careful in that root account
[11:26] <variant> gevaudan82: note that i made up the 99.99999%  ;)
[11:27] <LjL> variant: well, i think it's only been there in the 2.6 kernels anyway, it was hardcoded in 2.4 IIRC, so you haven't lost it for too long i suppose ;-) anyway myself i just happily leave it at the default (i'm not using this computer for background tasks much, or leaving it on at night, etc, anyway)
[11:27] <Hoobly> bimberi: thanx
[11:27] <Hoobly> !oldworld
[11:27] <ubotu> For installation on Old World PowerMacs see this URL https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[11:27] <coz_> donfilipo, so what are you going to do reinstall?
[11:27] <bimberi> Hoobly: yw :)
[11:27] <spawn> coz_ are you always here?? cause I wanted to know more things about linux if you have the time?
[11:27] <alecjw> !amarok
[11:27] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[11:27] <alecjw> damn
[11:27] <phillip> is upgrading to edgy as easy as it is to dapper?
[11:27] <coz_> spawn, well I am in and out but honestly there are more knowledgeable people than myself
[11:27] <Lubix> ! GTK
[11:27] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
[11:27] <donfilipo> coz_ the whole OS
[11:27] <coz_> spawn, but yess i am here on occasion
[11:27] <samuel> what package contains the nice user admin tool in edgy?
[11:27] <Lubix> !ubuntu
[11:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[11:27] <beau> it is telling me it doesnt exist
[11:28] <variant> LjL: how do you interpret the value? mine is 60 at the momment
[11:28] <Feldegast> philip i found the edgy upgrade easy....
[11:28] <Lubix> !gcc
[11:28] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:28] <variant> phillip: just make sure your system is in a sane state before you do it
[11:28] <coz_> donfilipo, well i reinstall frequently  if i screw up I reinstall if  driver screws up I reinstall lol
[11:28] <spawn> coz_ one more question... How can I use my svideo on linux?
[11:28] <LabThug> I have an app (ColdFusion MX) that still uses libc.so.6.  Upgrading to Edgy seems to have removed this file, how do i get it back?
[11:28] <adie> phillip: upgrade horror for the masses ;)
[11:28] <LjL> variant: 0 means "never swap out processes in favour of caching", 100 is the most aggressive setting (i suppose it means "whenever you're out of memory for caching, just swap out applications with no respect", not sure though)
[11:28] <coz_> spawn, well there you see, I am the wrong person for that question...lol.. you may wnat to ask someone else about that one
[11:29] <spawn> lol
[11:29] <kalikiana> Why did edgy alter my fstab?
[11:29] <LabThug> I have /usr/lib/libc.so, but when I make a symlink to that, Cold Fusion whines about invalid ELF headers
[11:29] <variant> phillip: before editing your sources.list do apt-get upgrade and make sure everything is fine (no errors or warnings) then procede to edit your sources.list and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:29] <spawn> coz_ thanks anyway i'll brb
[11:29] <coz_> spawn,  just becareful , again, in that root account
[11:29] <LjL> variant: basically, a lower value is "better" for systems where you value speed for interactive things (GUIs, for instance), while a higher value is "better" for having speed in data-crunching situations
[11:29] <spawn> coz_ thanks
[11:29] <coz_> spawn, also do not gon the internet while in the root account
[11:29] <spawn> no problem
[11:29] <adie> phillip: make sure you're not running a custom kernel as well!
[11:29] <coz_> spawn, enjoy
[11:29] <variant> LjL: so, for a server system you would have hight values if there was little conections and high load?
[11:30] <Hoobly> bimberi: So what you're telling me is, it's not easy
[11:30] <spawn> coz_ ok thanks i just need it to erase a file
[11:30] <alecjw> anyone? how can i make amarok sync my collection with a portable media device?
[11:30] <donfilipo> well coz_ you know someday maybe the system will be waterproof ...until then we will have to reinstall a lot
[11:30] <LjL> variant: probably. though as i mentioned, there was much debate about kernel people about "what's a good swappiness value". just google "swappiness" and you'll see ;)
[11:30] <variant> LjL: you set it with echo "whatevernumberhere" > /proc/sys/vm/swappines?
[11:30] <kalikiana> Why did edgy alter my fstab?
[11:30] <variant> LjL: lol ok :)
[11:30] <LjL> variant: yes, but you need to be root. and, oh, it doesn't survive reboots