[02:21] <kgb> ugh o/ hi guys, just a little help pls: to install Java (WHAT is, even, the latest version - JRE 9?!), which one of the CMDs do i run, 1) sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jre, 2) sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer, 3) sudo apt-get install default-jre ?? Sun Java isn't needed with OPEN, right?.. but, what is the "default-jre" all about? o.0
[02:22] <Unit193> It's a dep package to pull in the recommended version.
[02:28] <kgb> Unit193: yes, ty!.. bt, is running the 'default' _somehow_ different o.0
[02:29] <kgb> *im so ignorant, omg. (sorz, it's mad-late, 4:30am)
[02:30] <kgb> & NO which won 2 run: openjdk-8-jre &/or default-jre :-0
[02:30] <Unit193> kgb: For the packages that need a runtime dep on java but it doesn't specifically matter which, they can depend on that.  Also means -9 can be in the repos, even if hardly tested or anything like that.
[02:31] <kgb> yessir, so it's just as i could understand it... ok, gotcha, tyvm!..
[02:53] <kgb> yay! \o/ http://i.imgur.com/3LSFNcb.png
[12:01] <xubuntu97d> hey guys
[12:01] <xubuntu97d> i got a possible drier problem when lauching a steam game
[12:01] <xubuntu97d> "missing basic opgl v1.o -> v2-0 required OpenGL functionality"
[12:02] <xubuntu97d> what would be the fix? xu 16
[12:12] <knome> xubuntu97d, for starters, xubuntu 16.04 is still beta, so expect breakage; additionally, you'd probably be better asking the steam support
[12:14] <xubuntu97d> I found it on arch, its the driver
[12:14] <xubuntu97d> A bug was introduced in nvidia 361.28 that prevents some games from launching with an error such as  "Missing basic OpenGL v1.0 -> v2.0 required OpenGL functionality."  You can update to 361.42 drivers
[12:15] <xubuntu97d> and 361.28 IS the newest driver you can have on xu 16
[12:26] <xubuntu97d> Hey guys, how do I install the new nvidia drivers from nvidia page?
[12:26] <xubuntu97d> aka 361.42
[12:26] <knome> xubuntu97d, you are running a beta OS; it's likely that the new drivers will land there sooner or later.
[12:27] <xubuntu97d> yes, xu 16
[12:27] <xubuntu97d> oh ok
[12:27] <knome> xubuntu97d, and fwiw, there is no "xubuntu 16", it's 16.04
[12:27] <xubuntu97d> yes yes, im just lazy
[14:35] <slee> hi, can someone with the app 'shutter' confirm that it can no longer upload to imgur.com? i've noticed the past 2 days it fails to upload
[14:35] <Unit193> xfce4-screenshooter can upload to imgur.
[14:40] <slee> i only see the option to upload to ZimageZ
[14:41] <Unit193> Trusty?
[14:41] <slee> yes
[14:42] <slee> version 1.8.1
[16:06] <xubuntu42w> Hello! I need install gala on xubuntu 14.04, but I can't. Because gala need depends libgala0 and others. How I do it?
[16:07] <xubuntu42w> How I install dependencies in xubuntu 14.04? libgala0 libplank0 and libgranite3?
[16:08] <xubuntu42w> Hello! I need install gala on xubuntu 14.04, but I can't. Because gala need depends libgala0 and others. How I do it?
[16:08] <xubuntu42w> How I install dependencies in xubuntu 14.04? libgala0 libplank0 and libgranite3?
[16:08] <knome> xubuntu42w, please
[16:09] <knome> xubuntu42w, we have heard your question, and are all volunteers, so please have some patience
[16:09] <xubuntu42w> I found that no one had seen, sorry!
[16:10] <knome> you waited for what, 2 minutes?
[16:10] <xubuntu42w> For more, if you need! I'm quiet now
[16:14] <knome> xubuntu42w, so where are you trying to install gala from anyway?
[16:15] <xubuntu42w> on xubuntu 14.04
[16:16] <xubuntu42w> I just wanted to know if there is such libs for this release. I've looked at several other places but did not.
[16:17] <xubuntu42w> libgala0 libplank0 and libgranite3?
[16:18] <knome> xubuntu42w, i asked where FROM?
[16:18] <knome> xubuntu42w, i don't think gala is in the 14.04 repositories if its dependencies aren't
[16:20] <xubuntu42w> haa. I try to instal using this repository sudo apt-add-repository ppa:elementary-os/daily
[16:20] <xubuntu42w> and sudo apt-add-repository ppa:elementary-os/testing
[16:21] <knome> xubuntu42w, ok, then please refer to the instructions the PPA maintainers are giving
[16:22] <xubuntu42w> I found this ppa in a tutorial. But ok! Thanks for you help. I think that I can't install gala on xubuntu 14.04, only xubuntu 12.02. But thanks again.
[16:25] <knome> you definitely can install it in 14.04 if it's in a PPA, but if you have a problem with that PPA, then the PPA maintainer is the best person to help you
[16:26] <xubuntu42w> Ok, thanks! I'm sorry for my haste!
[16:27] <xubuntu42w> Good job for you!
[17:07] <WangDang> Hi, at school where they use windows, I can ctrl-a ctrl-c in one programme (Rational Software Architect) to get a copy of the whole document, then crtl-v in another to paste it (word for example).  That appears not to work in xubuntu between Rational and Libreoffice.  Am I doing something wrong?
[17:09] <knome> WangDang, you could try hitting ctrl+c twice
[17:10] <WangDang> knome: ok, let me give that a try
[17:23] <adrian_1908> hello. Does anyone know if the common Thunar crashes have been fixed for 16.04?
[17:26] <knome> adrian_1908, it's being investigated.
[17:28] <adrian_1908> ok. it seems like this issue has been around forever, i hope the developers find a solution.
[17:28] <knome> me too, but since the source is yet unknown, it's a bit hard to come up with a fix
[17:30] <mrkramps> thunar seg faults?
[17:30] <knome> yes.
[17:31] <mrkramps> annoying
[17:42] <xubuntu866> hey guys, will it be possible to upgrade from xu 14 lts to 16 ?
[17:42] <mrkramps> yes
[17:42] <xubuntu866> sick, thanks
[17:43] <xubuntu866> is it advisable to wait a month to have all packages on it working well?
[17:43] <mrkramps> xubuntu866, personally i would recommend waiting for the first point release
[17:44] <xubuntu866> Okay, thanks!
[17:52] <WangDang> knome: no luck with a double crtl-c.  Any other suggestions?
[18:19] <nalbi> hi
[18:19] <nalbi> so, what's new in 15 ?
[18:20] <knome> there is no "xubuntu 15"
[18:20] <nalbi> been having some issues with the dropbox icon in 14
[18:20] <nalbi> hope thats resolved
[19:31] <Noneatme> so is there a date for the new lts?
[19:34] <krytarik> !16.04 | Noneatme
[19:43] <Noneatme> uuh nice
[20:42] <xubuntu574> just installed steam and this comes out when i try to run it on xu 14.04.... : ILocalize::AddFile() failed to load file "public/steambootstrapper_english.txt". [2016-04-05 22:40:39] Startup - updater built Nov 25 2013 18:07:05 SteamUpdateUI: An X Error occurred X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[20:42] <xubuntu574> fix?
[20:43] <knome> xubuntu574, looks like a steam issue
[20:43] <knome> xubuntu574, maybe the steam support could have an idea
[20:44] <xubuntu574> i read a fix to delete all nvidia drivers except oo and steam reboot and install those again
[20:44] <knome> if you are willing to do that, then you can try it
[20:45] <xubuntu574> theres no risk is there? just have to use some oo drivers for 2 mins
[20:45] <xubuntu574> *os
[20:47] <knome> the open source drivers should general work quite well, maybe not with same performance though.
[20:47] <xubuntu574> well i hope theyre enough to reconfigure this mess, thanks
[22:28] <xubuntu653> hey guys! how do i tweak the windows settings the way so if i move a window to a corner/edge i sticks there?
[22:29] <xubuntu653> *it
[22:29] <xubuntu653> xu 14
[22:29] <knome> there is no "xubuntu 14".
[22:29] <xubuntu653> 14.04
[22:30] <xubuntu653> pls can we leave out the semantics
[22:30] <knome> ok
[22:30] <knome> here's how you do it
[22:30] <knome> ...and that's it!
[22:30] <knome> i just left out a bit of the semantics as you saw (:
[22:30] <xubuntu653> cool cool any other further steps


[10:45] <clong> Hi all. I'm new to this chan and just back into irc after a 15 year break. Hi
[10:46] <clong> I'm currently commissioning a 32 node blade with maas and juju and having a few issues that I'm slowly working through and bit by bit I'm progressing.
[10:47] <clong> I'm hoping that there might be a few on here who had already successfully deployed a similar solution that would be able to help answer questions with facts and not just opinions.
[13:11] <clong> hi, is there anyone here who could help me with a maas-dns and maas-dhcp issue by any chance?


[01:32] <darkxst> jbicha, my monitors are going to sleep after ~5secs of inactivity ;(
[01:52] <jbicha> darkxst: I don't think I did that ;)
[01:54] <jbicha> dconf dump /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/power/
[02:04] <darkxst> "idle-dim-time=10" is that seconds or minutes?
[02:08] <darkxst> not that it has any effect anyway
[02:10] <jbicha> are you using the ricotz ppa?
[02:14] <darkxst> I have xorg-edgers, ricotz testing/staging and gnome3-staging
[02:15] <jbicha> ok I blame one of the first two ;)
[02:20] <darkxst> so essentially you blame ricotz then ;)
[02:21] <jbicha> well I don't have that problem on my computer and both of those ppa's are more bleeding edge
[02:22] <jbicha> actually the ricotz ppa's don't currently include g-s-d which would have been my first guess
[02:22] <jbicha> maybe the graphics drivers then?
[02:27] <darkxst> I guess, there was an update to nvidia package around the time it started happening
[14:44] <ricotz> darkxst, hi
[14:46] <ricotz> the wayland backend flags should only be added to the build of shared library of gtk
[14:47] <ricotz> jbicha, hi, ^?
[14:48] <jbicha> ricotz: hmm?
[14:49] <ricotz> jbicha, i guees, the udeb also will have the wayland dep too then
[17:01] <ricotz> darkxst, ah, i guess it mistaken you for Darxus :\


[00:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted elpa [armhf] (lunar-proposed) [2022.11.001-2]
[05:14] <vorlon> oh lovely, a botch autopkgtest that runs diff on json output to validate it
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[06:22] <vorlon> schopin, athos: fyi there's a high enough percentage of failed autopkgtests for python3-defaults that are specific to architectures where the tests had not yet been retried that I'm doing a mass-retry
[06:35] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: qt6 transition is caught up on llvm-toolchain-15 and therefore protobuf because libclang1-15 has a completely broken symbols file, listing the current version as a required dep for all symbols
[06:37] <vorlon> there's a chance disentangling works by downgrading llvm-toolchain-15 to 1:15.0.6-3build1 which was built with previous protobuf, so I'm going to give that a try
[06:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libvirt (focal-proposed/main) [6.0.0-0ubuntu8.16 => 6.0.0-0ubuntu8.17] (ubuntu-server, virt)
[07:21] <LocutusOfBorg> ack!
[09:00] <schopin> vorlon: I was investigating a gnarly gnat transition issue, but I'll pivot to python3-defaults instead.
[09:34] <LocutusOfBorg> bryyce, hello, is an nginx merge on your radar? I see debian did split some plugins, maybe the maintenance can be easier now
[09:34] <athos> I did retrigger some of the arch specific ones after your first ping, vorlon. Since you are handling mass rebuilds, I will focus on non-arch specific general failures now.
[11:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: liquid-dsp [amd64] (lunar-proposed/universe) [1.5.0-2] (no packageset)
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[11:27] <fheimes> dear @ubuntu-sru would you please remove zlib from the K, J and F unapproved queues? Since I would like to include another bug fix, that was recently reported on RH... [same for the zlib version that is currently in lunar-proposed, but I guess I have to ask in #ubuntu-devel for this one]
[11:28] <apw> fheimes, looking
[11:28] <apw> fheimes, for lunar you would just upload over it, right?
[11:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: liquid-dsp [arm64] (lunar-proposed/universe) [1.5.0-2] (no packageset)
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[11:29] <fheimes> apw, unsure about the best way - if that's possible it would be best (need to ask a sponsor, since I can't upload for main)
[11:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected zlib [source] (kinetic-proposed) [1:1.2.11.dfsg-4.1ubuntu1.1]
[11:30] <apw> fheimes, definatly can be uploaded over, and the version is gone in lunar either way because it is not in the queue
[11:31] <fheimes> apw, ok - thx!
[11:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected zlib [source] (jammy-proposed) [1:1.2.11.dfsg-2ubuntu9.3]
[11:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected zlib [source] (focal-proposed) [1:1.2.11.dfsg-2ubuntu1.6]
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[13:07] <apw> fheimes, ^ ok all three rejected.
[13:48] <bryyce> LocutusOfBorg, it wasn't on my radar, no, but I can add it
[13:54] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks!
[13:54] <bryyce> LocutusOfBorg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1993421
[13:54] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 1993421 in nginx (Ubuntu) "Merge nginx from Debian unstable for lunar" [Undecided, New]
[14:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libcanberra (kinetic-proposed/main) [0.30-10ubuntu1 => 0.30-10ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop)
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[15:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected alsa-ucm-conf [source] (kinetic-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3]
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[15:56] <athos> schopin, vorlon: I am working on python-glyphsets (this needs a delta). There were lots of duplicate re-triggers yesterday
[16:37] <vorlon> rolling back just-synced callibre for qt6 transition
[16:37] <vorlon> eh wait, no, not doing that
[16:37] <vorlon> I thought it was tied to python3-defaults but it's only tied to pyqt6
[16:37] <vorlon> so it's only waiting for autopkgtest results
[16:38] <vorlon> (so, only waiting now on s390x)
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 Yummy .
[02:01] <ducasse> Bashing-om: is that a regional thing, or pretty widespread in the us?
[02:07] <Bashing-om> ducasse: well. not real sure .. seems though that turkey in the US is a Thanksgiving thing, and ham for Xmas .
[02:10] <ducasse> Bashing-om: there are literally tons of regional traditions for christmas dinner here in norway, i'd guess ribs or something called 'pinnekjøtt' are the most common. i stick with the turkey, though - yum :)
[02:10] <ducasse> finished shopping etc?
[02:16] <Bashing-om> ducasse: yeah .. Finished up the shopping and buying last week . May take us another year to pay off the credit cards . Now is that not the American way ?
[02:18] <ducasse> hehe, heard on the news today that norwegians had bought xmas presents for ~60bn NOK so far in december...
[02:28] <Bashing-om> ducasse: The biggest shopping season ! What a web we weave for ourselves .
[02:29] <ducasse> insanity :(
[02:29] <ducasse> i got an amazing deal today!
[02:30] <Bashing-om> A 30" LCD monitor for a 100 bucks ?
[02:30] <ducasse> a really high-quality, nice big desk, ~£15. finally my dream of three monitors might come true!
[02:30] <ducasse> picking it up  on tuesday.
[02:31] <Bashing-om> nice :))
[02:32] <ducasse> so next time i get payed i'm ordering a third screen - i can't wait :) will also get a trackpad or similar, my wrist pain is killing me.
[02:33] <ducasse> *paid?
[02:35] <Bashing-om> paid, is correct . I wish . This living on the fixed income - retirement - is not all it was cracked up to be .
[02:36] <Bashing-om> where cracked up is " cracking eggs to make an omelet " kind of thing .
[02:39] <ducasse> well, i have a couple of disabilities  preventing me from working, so i feel your pine. not that i'm complaining, i live a good life and praise my lucky stars i  was born in norway.
[02:40] <ducasse> *your pain
[02:44] <ducasse> Bashing-om: do you know much about either nvidia gpus or monitors - especially the former?
[02:50] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Well a bit of knowledge of Nvidia GPUs, why ?
[02:51] <ducasse> my nephew is often here and wants to game, was thinking of getting a gpu that can handle basic gaming, but no idea where to start.
[03:07] <ducasse> gtg, brb
[03:28] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Well , I am very impressed with the GT710, has 2 Gigs of of on-board memory to take the load off the CPU, Reasonably priced at $38.00 USD for the EVGA product . No cooling fan but I can not believe how much cooler my box runs with this card .
[03:36] <ducasse> Bashing-om: i'll check that out, thanks :)
[03:39] <Bashing-om> ducasse: I did some homework before choosing this card . For the money I do not think you can beat it . I bet it does well in the less graphic;s intensive games . When it comes to gaming and graphic's cards, the sky is the limit cost wise !
[03:46] <ducasse> Bashing-om: this is just so hew can play some basic games, top performance not neccesary...
[03:46] <ducasse> *he
[03:47] <ducasse> got to hit bed, much too late for me!
[03:53] <Bashing-om> ducasse: N N .  :D
[22:37] <EriC^^> lol
[22:37] <EriC^^> well i was driving not that much
[22:38] <EriC^^> but she was going nuts on stuff like i'm to the left and there's a car to the right and i can't yet switch lanes and she'd flip out
[22:40] <EriC^^> she's pretty bossy
[22:41] <EriC^^> like i was lowering the window and she was bitching that it's freezing (it was like a perfect sunny afternoon)
[22:42] <EriC^^> she did something i sort of didn't like at all and made me wonder
[22:43] <daftykins> could be a sign she's worth friend-zoning!
[22:43] <EriC^^> she's fun most of the time, everything was going great til the last date we had
[22:44] <EriC^^> i was like O.o
[22:44] <EriC^^> plus she didn't like i wasn't into religious stuff
[22:44] <EriC^^> i dont know if that ticked her off or something
[22:45] <daftykins> hrmm
[22:45] <EriC^^> i'm kind of like sketchy of what she did, i'll explain in tj's channel
[22:45] <daftykins> *nod*


[17:44]  * genii makes a fresh pot of coffee
[17:54]  * BobJonkman sips coffee
[17:55] <genii> BobJonkman:  :)  Sammy just emailed a dropbox link for the photos he took. Like the smart aleck he is, also included a Windows 8.1 screenshot of his laptop.....
[17:55] <BobJonkman> :D Some people's kids...
[17:55] <genii> https://www.dropbox.com/sc/sin2z62ymee4gzx/kkj9nRiI8f
[17:56] <genii> He also CC'd Darcy in
[18:00] <BobJonkman> If you put the pix on http://pix.ie/ubuntuca they'll show up automagically on http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ca/
[18:17] <genii> Uploaded. Not many photos but Sammy was the only one taking them that night. I left out his Windows 8.1 screenshot :)
[18:18] <genii> Album is "Saucy Release Toronto"
[19:29] <BobJonkman> Looks good! I'll link to it in the October report https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/TeamReports


[16:16] <nebuchadnezzar> I setup an image building system with cdimage and now I would like to customize the F6 options on the ISO but I don't find how to do


[00:01] <Daviey> wait 1
[00:02] <Daviey> $brctl show
[00:03] <john__> john@john-feisty:~$ brctl show
[00:03] <john__> bridge name     bridge id               STP enabled     interfaces
[00:03] <john__> br0             8000.001a927d6b99       no              eth1
[00:03] <john__>                                                         tap1
[00:03] <Daviey> so eth1 is bridged into tap1
[00:03] <john__> yes
[00:04] <Daviey> ping <IP_ADDRESS> <-- doesn't work from any machine on your network either?
[00:04] <john__> let me try a windoze box
[00:05] <john__> i can ping it from a windoze box
[00:07] <john__> so i'm going to assume it's aproblem with my gutsy box
[00:09] <Daviey> i'm need to dash - good luck, want to hear about it - bbl
[00:09] <john__> i'm going to eat myself later
[00:11] <tgm4883>  don't eat yourself, cannibalism is not the answer
[00:24] <alexvd> Gentleman I am having difficulties getting channel icons.  I installed xmltv then did tv_grab_na_icons.  This downloaded channel icons for my area into /usr/share/xmltv/icons. This is where i am confused how do I properly import them via mythfilldatabase?
[00:25] <alexvd> Just another note I also have the master_iconmap.xml?format=raw file but when I run perl mkiconmap.pl it says it cant open
[00:30] <john__> ok i'm back
[00:33] <john__> what is the easiest way to remove eth0 and the bridge setup?
[00:56] <lime> john_ is now lime
[00:56] <lime> well the problem lies with the bridge setup
[00:56] <lime> the <IP_ADDRESS> address is being assigned by the router to the bridge interface
[01:09] <john__> lime is now john_
[01:09] <john__> well removing the bridge didn't help
[01:16] <rhpot1992> john__: I wasn't able to get a bridged network working right for virtualbox the last time I tried
[01:16] <rhpot1992> had the virtualbox working, but I lost the ethernet to my actual box
[01:18] <john__> I finally found that this command works for me i just have to issue it if i reboot the computer sudo VBoxAddIF vbox0 john br0
[01:20] <rhpot1992> whats the easiest way to verify what version a frontend is via cli?
[01:28] <john__> Daviey problem solved for the most part. I removed the tap1 interface.that still wouldn't allow me to connect. I plugged in the second nic card to the router and now i'm able to connect to the mythtv box
[01:28] <john__> don't ask me how or why but it works
[01:38] <john__> anyone here got nfs to work?
[01:41] <Trancecoder> Hi all. I'd like some help with setting up HDTV output from a Radeon HD2400. Only 640x480 seems to work. All custom modelines I've tried make the TV (Mitsubishi something with 1080i max) think that 480i is being sent, so the image is screwed up...
[01:42] <Trancecoder> Oh yeah, using 7.12
[01:46] <jcg42> Is it better (easier, less clutter) to install regular Ubuntu and then mythbuntu-desktop or Mythbuntu and then ubuntu-desktop?
[01:46] <Daviey> jcg42: If it's a mythtv box install mythbuntu first
[01:46] <Daviey> it mainly a desktop install ubuntu first
[01:46] <Daviey> IMO
[01:47] <jcg42> Is the setup process (wizards and stuff) the same either way?
[01:52] <Daviey> not quite, but pretty much
[01:56] <john__> Daviey i got everything working
[01:57] <Daviey> yah, i need to go to bed - nearly 2am
[01:57] <Daviey> tell me about it tommorrow - i'd love to hear
[01:57] <alexvd> Daviey can you help with channel icons issue
[01:57] <john__> will do later
[01:57] <alexvd> ok going to bed
[01:57] <alexvd> do it tomorrow then
[02:11] <john__> this my be a stupid ? but where do i change where the videos are under media library
[02:11] <Tari> it's under some settings menu (I don't know where, exactly)\
[02:13] <john__> i thought it was under the front end. I have a nfs share mounted at /mnt/movies
[02:13] <john__> when i went in thru the front end i changed the video location to /mnt/movies but when i go under media library then videos nothing shows up
[02:22] <john__> they are there if i go back to the desktop and use the file manager viewer
[07:26] <MythbuntuGuest21> i want to use a pc with only a vga attack with my lcd tv 32"
[07:26] <MythbuntuGuest21> can i with mythubuntu?
[07:27] <MythbuntuGuest21> the video card of the computer is an integrated sis i think
[07:37] <MythbuntuGuest21> hi wasikevin
[07:37] <wasikevin> MythbuntuGuest21: happy new year
[07:38] <MythbuntuGuest21> do you use mythubuntu?
[07:38] <MythbuntuGuest21> happy new year also for you
[07:38] <wasikevin> yes, but not frequently
[07:38] <wasikevin> it is still buggy
[07:38] <wasikevin> :-(
[07:39] <MythbuntuGuest21> wasikevin i want to use a pc with only a vga attack with my lcd tv 32"
[07:39] <MythbuntuGuest21> can i with mythubuntu? the videocard is an integrated sis i think
[07:39] <wasikevin> MythbuntuGuest21: and then?
[07:39] <MythbuntuGuest21> i'll have prroblems?
[07:40] <wasikevin> SiS could be a problem, I think
[07:40] <wasikevin> which model of SiS?
[07:40] <MythbuntuGuest21> hmm i don't know :(
[07:40] <MythbuntuGuest21> how i can see it?
[07:43] <MythbuntuGuest21> wasikevin are you?
[07:43] <wasikevin> MythbuntuGuest21: hold on
[07:43] <MythbuntuGuest21> ok excuse
[07:44] <wasikevin> MythbuntuGuest21: you should be able to get SiS model number from Videocard Spec.
[07:44] <MythbuntuGuest21> lol
[07:45] <MythbuntuGuest21> wasekin i don't have any more the sheet
[07:47] <wasikevin> :-(
[07:48] <MythbuntuGuest21> wasikevin but see mythubuntu through vga attack
[07:48] <MythbuntuGuest21> in a lcd tv 32" is bad ?
[07:49] <MythbuntuGuest21> the video quality i mean
[07:49] <wasikevin> sorry,beyond my knowledge
[07:49] <MythbuntuGuest21> i want to use mythubuntu to see movies
[11:41] <Aquahallic>  I'm trying to get lirc working correctly.... I went to uninstall it because I think something got jacked with the install previously... when I do apt-get remove lirc it wants to pull out my control center and all kinds of mess... is it possible that the package handler is jacked??? if so... is there a way to repair this??
[11:44] <DaveMorris> Aquahallic:  dpkg-reconfigure lirc
[11:44] <DaveMorris> it'll allow you to reconfigure the package
[11:44] <Aquahallic> did that
[11:44] <Aquahallic> still can't get the homebrew serial receiver working
[11:44] <DaveMorris> apt-get install --reinstall lirc should force a reinstall
[11:45] <Aquahallic> yeah... but I think something is jacked with the package handler itself
[11:45] <Aquahallic> like the db is hosed or something
[11:45] <DaveMorris> in what way?  it want's to pull out m-c-c because it depends on lirc
[11:47] <Aquahallic> I've done apt-get update and it goes through all the motions... but if I go into the remote setup in control center... and I select a remote that I see uses the serial driver.... it keeps telling me "The information about available software is out of date"
[11:48] <DaveMorris> laga: any ideas ^^
[11:48] <Aquahallic> when I do apt-get update... it looks like it goes through all the motions...
[11:49] <Aquahallic> it's almost like it's not really updating the package db or something
[11:49] <Aquahallic> maybe corrupted???
[11:49] <Aquahallic> is there a db I can blow away and make it re-create??
[11:49] <DaveMorris> the information about the remote isn't connect to apt-get update
[11:50] <DaveMorris> since apt-get update updates the list of packages
[11:50] <DaveMorris> have you run apt-get upgrade?
[11:50] <Aquahallic> hmmm
[11:50] <Aquahallic> nope
[11:50] <Aquahallic> just did
[11:50] <DaveMorris> upgrade upgrades the packages
[11:50] <Aquahallic> 0 upgraded
[11:52] <Aquahallic> when I'm in the remote setup.... if I go to apply a selected remote... it says.. "The information about available software is out of date" so I click ok to reload... it does its thing.. it's the same thing as if I was to go to update my packages
[11:53] <Aquahallic> then after I do it once.. I can apply the remote config and it lets me.. but the serial port still isn't setup
[11:53] <Aquahallic> and if I try to apply that remote again... I get the same thing "The information about available software is out of date" and have to reload it again
[11:53] <DaveMorris> strange, you sure your serail port is working
[11:54] <Aquahallic> yes... I had knoppmyth running on this same machine
[11:54] <DaveMorris> you can do tail -f /dev/ttyS0 and see the data been fed into it
[11:55] <Aquahallic> hmmm
[11:55] <Aquahallic> tail: error reading `/dev/ttyS0': Input/output error
[11:55] <Aquahallic> tail: `/dev/ttyS0' has become accessible
[11:55] <Aquahallic> tail: /dev/ttyS0: cannot seek to offset 0: Illegal seek
[11:56] <DaveMorris> might mean that it's been claimed by something, maybe lirc
[11:56] <Aquahallic> maybe ubuntu isn't setting up my serial port correctly
[11:56] <laga> no, no idea off-hand
[11:56] <Aquahallic> yeah... this is a good one
[11:56] <Aquahallic> lol
[11:56] <Aquahallic> one thing I do know.. my 5 yr. old was swinging around in her chair and shut my machine down abruptly
[11:57] <Aquahallic> so something might have gotten corrupted...:/
[11:57] <DaveMorris> yeah I get the same errors if I try and read a serail device which dosen't exist
[11:57] <laga> you could have mentioned that earlier ;))+
[11:57] <Aquahallic> I did mention I thought a db was corrupted
[11:57] <Aquahallic> :)
[11:57] <gandalfcome> I had trouble when ffwd on mytbuntu 7.10 (frontend) that it would crash. I had this trouble before. Anyone any idea?
[11:58] <gandalfcome> Ah yes i was watching livetv
[11:58] <laga> gandalfcome: does mythtv crash or does your box crash
[11:58] <gandalfcome> laga : mythfrontend ctrl alt backspace still worked
[11:59] <laga> gandalfcome: does it crash or does it freeze?
[11:59] <gandalfcome> laga: well freeze
[12:00] <laga> oh. look at the logs in /var/log/mythtv/ then
[12:00]  * laga gotta run
[12:00] <gandalfcome> laga: is that a common issue, I mean it only happened twice, so not very frequently
[12:00] <gandalfcome> laga: thans
[12:00] <gandalfcome> laga: thanks
[12:01] <frink__> I have a problem also, if I watch live tv and then immediately escape out of that before the picture appears, the backend crashes.
[12:01] <frink__> the logs say "oh no, not again.."
[12:02] <laga> try to get a backtrace (installing apport-gtk might be sufficient) and report a bug in launchpad
[12:02] <laga> ok, it's really time for breakfast now :)
[12:06] <gandalfcome> easy question: Whats the easiest way to give the channels channel numbers from 1 to x (im using dvb t). thanks
[16:11] <MythbuntuGuest35> hello can someone help me?
[16:12] <Dr_willis> depemnds on the issue
[16:12] <DaveMorris> sure ask your question and someone will try
[16:12] <tgm4883> !ask
[16:12] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:12] <MythbuntuGuest35> i installed mythubuntu and my usb stick but i cant find any transmiters
[16:13] <DaveMorris> MythbuntuGuest35: dvb-t/dvb-s/cable
[16:13] <MythbuntuGuest35> dvb-t
[16:13] <DaveMorris> uk?
[16:13] <MythbuntuGuest35> german
[16:13] <DaveMorris> pokes laga:
[16:14] <MythbuntuGuest35> i dont unterstand
[16:14] <DaveMorris> laga: is German so he might know if its a known issue over there
[16:15] <DaveMorris> but he doesn't seem to be around
[16:15] <MythbuntuGuest35> ok... the frequence i have and teh signalpower is there but it cant locked
[16:16] <DaveMorris> I assume you had a dvb-t signal before hand with what every equipment you already had?
[16:16] <MythbuntuGuest35> yes i have
[16:16] <DaveMorris> dvb-t is different to terrestrial though
[16:17] <MythbuntuGuest35> i have a win dvb-t receiver and it works...
[16:18] <DaveMorris> http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_novatpci.html 1 of those
[16:19] <MythbuntuGuest35> i have terratec usb reveiver
[16:19] <MythbuntuGuest35> and he say when i can scanning the frequence "multiplex 2.... locked" and when i wait some time he say timout -- no tables
[16:20] <MythbuntuGuest35> when i gibe him a frequence and when i make only a sear all over he cant lock but i think he find samething the signalpower goes about 70-90%
[16:21] <directhex|bsp> hm... invalid NIT?
[16:22] <MythbuntuGuest35> NIT? sorry
[16:26] <MythbuntuGuest35> whts the meaning of?!?
[16:27] <directhex|bsp> Network Information Table. they're one of the components of a DVB stream, they map audio and video streams into actual channels
[16:28] <MythbuntuGuest35> mhh i dont know, how can i test it?
[16:28] <directhex|bsp> one cable operator in the uk forces people to use their set-top boxes, by sending invalid NIT data that other things can't work with
[16:28] <directhex|bsp> dvbsnoop looks like a handy tool, that or wait for laga
[16:30] <MythbuntuGuest35> mhh do you mean a error of the dvb-t transmitter?
[16:31] <MythbuntuGuest35> a other dvb-t receiver works...that i dont think its an error an the transmitter, or i unterstand you wrong
[16:34] <MythbuntuGuest35> and then i make a all over scan he say scanning and then canning offset 1 wat is the meaining for this?
[16:37] <MythbuntuGuest35> dont you have an idear how i can tests this?
[16:40] <MythbuntuGuest35> please?
[16:42]  * Dr_willis has no idea. sorry.
[16:42] <Dr_willis> I dont get half the techy terms used when it comes to tvs :)
[16:44] <MythbuntuGuest35>  i dont know, too what i can test, that it works...mh :(
[16:45] <MythbuntuGuest35> am i have a othe rproblem, too. when i played a mpeg movie it have a low fps, but when i play it with a other video player it workds good. where is the problem?
[16:45]  * Dr_willis still isent sure what 720p vs 1080i means.. Other then the hot babes on tv in the 1080i commercials! :)
[16:45] <directhex|bsp> 1280x720 progressive, or 1920x1080 interlaced
[16:46] <directhex|bsp> interlaced is half the framerate and half the vertical res, depending on how you look at it.
[16:47] <MythbuntuGuest35> sorry dont know that you are meanning
[16:47] <DaveMorris> it's 1/2 the horizntal if you turn your TV 90 degrees ;)
[16:47] <Dr_willis> And how does this differ from the pc monitors with Higher res? - Oh wait.. half the framerate.. Hmm..
[16:47] <Dr_willis> Interlaced is 1/2 the framerate..but more res..
[16:48] <directhex|bsp> http://www.geniusdv.com/weblog/archives/Interlcaed.jpg is an interlaced image
[16:48] <directhex|bsp> every frame is really half the next frame and half the previous frame
[16:48] <Dr_willis> Ok the big Question is.. for the wife watching Lifetime Channel allday long.. will she be able to tell the differance? :)
[16:48] <directhex|bsp> split in alternating lines
[16:48] <directhex|bsp> 1080i ought to look better for slow-moving content
[16:48] <directhex|bsp> 720p better for fast action
[16:49] <directhex|bsp> both are much nicer than sd, though it depends on the material as to how much difference it makes
[16:49] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. ok.  so 1080i is NOT always the 'best' then eh?
[16:49] <Dr_willis> it just seemed the low end tv's were all 720p
[16:49] <MythbuntuGuest35> mhhh...dvb-t movie i thik is at mac 720?
[16:49] <directhex|bsp> 1366x768, technically, which is neither nor
[16:50] <Dr_willis> The HD tvs are getting  reasonable priced.  wife keeps wantingone.. i keep waiting.
[16:50] <directhex|bsp> MythbuntuGuest35, i'm talking to Dr_willis. the res is irrelevant to you
[16:50] <MythbuntuGuest35> i have a analog tv... no hd...
[16:50] <directhex|bsp> Dr_willis, £600 for 37" 1080p currently
[16:50] <MythbuntuGuest35> oh ok, sorry my english isnt the best :)
[16:51] <MythbuntuGuest35> an idear way are the same video have a too low fps and with VLC it works? when i can disturb your talk :)
[16:51] <Dr_willis> Im just trying to get my head around the big picture. - and how these all relate..and how they differe from what i see mentioned with PC monitors.  Like my NEW lcd monitor says   720P ready.  with hdcp Input  - but its not  a 1280x720 res lcd.
[16:51] <Dr_willis> its 1440 x 900.
[16:52] <Dr_willis> or am i missing somthing here. :) the #'s are not all matching up. :) Why dont we have PC monitors that are   1280x720 and 1920x1080
[16:54] <directhex|bsp> tradition
[16:54] <directhex|bsp> "hd ready" means it needs to have at least 720 vertical pixels, have an hdmi or dvi socket with hdcp, have a component input, and the ability to render 1080i and 720p content from either of the two previous inputs
[16:55] <Dr_willis> it just seems that if the pc monitor makers started  using the same  res/screens the lcd prices would be a bit cheaper.
[16:55] <directhex|bsp> 1440x900 is hd ready in that is's >720 tall. it's not exact, i.e. any input needs to be scaled to fit its res, which may damage sharpness
[16:56] <Dr_willis> Hmm. My Monitor dont have a component input.I wish it did.
[16:56] <Dr_willis> Ok..  I get it now. :) it has to 'at least have ....'
[16:56] <directhex|bsp> Dr_willis, does it have an HD Ready sticker?
[16:56] <Dr_willis> 'HDCP input' does not mean 'hd ready'
[16:56] <Dr_willis> I guess :)
[16:56] <directhex|bsp> indeed
[16:57] <directhex|bsp> now you know why - you don't have component in, so can't get the hd ready sticker
[16:57]  * Dr_willis looks for extra inputs
[16:57] <Dr_willis> none.. bummer :)
[16:57] <directhex|bsp> right, gohometime
[16:58] <Dr_willis> Debating wether to get a little HD tv.. or a PC monitor and use it as a tv. somehow.. :)
[16:58] <MythbuntuGuest35> notz... the dvb-t usb stick installed sucefully with a firmware version... but he dont find any programs
[16:58] <MythbuntuGuest35> sorry i think i dont wrote a private msg because i am not regersted
[17:00] <directhex|bsp> Dr_willis, depends whether you want size or definition
[17:00] <directhex|bsp> Dr_willis, you can get "full hd" (i.e. 1920x1080 or higher) res monitors at 24", but that res requires 37" for a tv
[17:02] <morfar> Hello, I'm trying to setup a Mythtv frontend, on Gutsy, with the mythbuntu packages installed, and I'm having some issues with gdm.. Perhaps someone can help ?
[17:02] <Dr_willis> directhex|bsp,  yea.. :) i can wait longer. Price is the big factor for me at this time.
[17:03] <directhex|bsp> Dr_willis, pick a budget
[17:03] <Dr_willis> directhex|bsp,  Thats it.. i need cash for a budget.. ehh heh.. wife spent too much at xmas.. looking tosave up for next xmas for her.
[17:03] <Dr_willis> Putting back a little every week.
[17:04] <directhex|bsp> right, gohometime
[17:04] <MythbuntuGuest35> notz ja tue ich, kann leider nicht privat chatten da ich nicht registriert bin. sagt er mir jedenfalls
[17:04] <morfar> The thing is when I start gdm (etc/init.d/gdm start) the login screen does not show on my TV, and X keep restarting..
[17:04] <directhex|bsp> morfar, invalid X config
[17:04] <Dr_willis> morfar,  what video card you have? You got a TV and PC monitor hooked up?
[17:05] <morfar> But when I run startx as root, gnome fires up almost perfectly.. the picture is just a bit bigger than my tv can handle..
[17:06] <directhex|bsp> morfar, invalid X permissions?
[17:06] <morfar> It is a via motherboard (EN10000GX) with onboad video card, i'm using the DVI port, to my Samsung 40"" LCD TV.
[17:06] <morfar> hmm, could be.. How do I check ?
[17:08] <MythbuntuGuest35> notz oh kannst emir die siete nochmal schicken bitte.....manuell habe ich sie auch shcon versucht einzutragen dann sagt er locked aber wiederrum scheint er trotzdem keien zu finden
[17:08] <morfar> .. And I have compiled and build the openchrome driver for the card, and it seems to be working ok.. again startx as root is working ..
[17:09] <MythbuntuGuest35> aber ich versuche den scan nochmal,, hast du die seite noch? da wir nicht privat chatten können, wiel ich nicht registriert bin, kann man sonst in nen anderen chennel gehen?
[17:09] <MythbuntuGuest35> danke
[17:14] <MythbuntuGuest35> ich probeire es gerade zu entpacken und zu kompilieren.. bin nicht der beste in linux
[17:18] <MythbuntuGuest35> notz so wie es aussieht scheintere ich schon am entpacken....
[17:20] <morfar> directhex|bsp, Dr_willis any ideas ?
[17:25] <Dr_willis> hmm
[17:26] <Dr_willis> ive hesard bad things bout some of the via stuff with built in video.
[17:26] <rhpot1991> same here
[17:29] <morfar> true, me to.. it is rather bitchy.. But also nice, cuz the board is fanless (no moving parts) and has very low power consumption, so it is cheap to have running 24/365..
[17:29] <rhpot1991> I did always want one though
[17:29] <morfar> And since it work with startx, i think/hope it would also work with gdm..
[17:31] <MythbuntuGuest35> notz danke, versucher gerade dvb-apps zu entzpacken sagt aber mit tar -xfj "error is not recoverable
[17:35] <MythbuntuGuest35> notz sorry meine linux kenntnisse sind nicht besonders.. mhhh habe das scanaid entpackt auf den desktop nun habe ich apt-get linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.1.tar.bz2 eingegeben udn auch nur llinuxtv-dvb-apps iengegeben sagt er konnte packet nicht finden
[17:38] <MythbuntuGuest35> notz ok danke nun scheniht er was zu machen...
[17:38] <MythbuntuGuest35> aktive device createt sagt er nun
[17:39] <MythbuntuGuest35> notz schade, du warst der einzigste der mir helfen kann...
[17:40] <MythbuntuGuest35> notz kannst emir noch sagen was ich noch machen soll schnell, oder kommste bald wieder?!?
[17:40] <MythbuntuGuest35> notz trotzem vielen dank für die hilfe
[17:42] <morfar> MythbuntuGuest35, who are you writing to ? I don't understand german :)
[17:43] <MythbuntuGuest35> notz ./Create_Scanning_Table wenn ich das wie beschrieben eingebe sagt er nur fehler illegal parameter... mhhh
[17:44] <MythbuntuGuest35> morfar i chat with notz private msg downst work because i am not registered
[17:44] <MythbuntuGuest35> n
[17:44] <MythbuntuGuest35> n
[17:44] <MythbuntuGuest35> n
[17:44] <MythbuntuGuest35> n
[17:44] <MythbuntuGuest35> sorry
[17:44] <morfar> MythbuntuGuest35, Ahh okay.. didn't catch that :)
[17:45] <morfar> MythbuntuGuest35, NP
[17:45] <Dr_willis> Like hearing the wife talk the phone.. only gettting 1 side of the conversation.. then she asks you 'what do you think of that!'
[17:45] <MythbuntuGuest35> tow keyboards to mutch for me...
[17:45] <MythbuntuGuest35> :)
[17:49] <morfar> lol
[17:57] <alexvd> hey cant find an easy way to restart the frontend in mythbuntu.
[17:58] <alexvd> I seem to have a bug that I have never seen in mythtv before.  If I rewind back to 0.00 on recording or in livetv( same thing right) it hangs the frontend
[18:47] <MythbuntuGuest35> mhh is my dvb-t usb stick installed correctly? he sayd initialzed and connectet but also it stays dvb-usb: recv bulk message failed: -110? @ all
[18:48] <MythbuntuGuest35> or what is the meaning an the error? has someone an idear?
[18:54] <MythbuntuGuest35> dont know someone, please?
[18:54] <MythbuntuGuest35> pherhabs my error is that the dvbt stick isnt installed correctly....mhhh
[18:55] <laga> MythbuntuGuest35: are you trying to use dvb-apps?
[18:56] <MythbuntuGuest35> he say no device found, but i cant scan for channels becausethe scipt dont work
[18:57] <MythbuntuGuest35> i have a channel list and than he say no device found or so
[18:57] <laga> does /dev/dvb/ exist?
[18:59] <MythbuntuGuest35> oh now i have a old firmeware version copy to now it seems to be work.... and yes it exist
[18:59] <MythbuntuGuest35> now he scan the channel.conf
[19:00] <MythbuntuGuest35> when he find a channel what must he say? tun to 754000000 ... pherhaps
[19:01] <MythbuntuGuest35> tune to ...
[19:02] <laga> maybe
[19:03] <MythbuntuGuest35> dumping lists (0 services found) wahts the meaning of? and the last channels he sayd warning tuning faild...
[19:05] <MythbuntuGuest35> and now he said device buisy when i scan again
[19:08] <laga> maybe mythbackend is running.
[19:09] <laga> anyways, unless you post precise messages (in a pastebin!) there#s no way to understand what you want
[19:09] <laga> i'm off, bye
[19:22] <MythbuntuGuest35> i an on a other pc there dosnt work paste....mhhhh anoybody here how can help me
[19:24] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest35: ssh into the box with the problem, then you can copy and paste stuff from it
[19:27] <MythbuntuGuest35> sorry, a ssh conect etablishing?
[19:37] <cosmic> HI @ ALL
[19:37] <MythbuntuGuest35> when i write mplayer dvb://sendername thten he saird dvb configuration is empty, exit... but mit strace mplayer dvb://sendername he found somethingand also when i wrote chown -R tv:users /dev/dvb/ it doesnt work. soemone an idear?
[19:37] <MythbuntuGuest35> hi cosmic^
[19:37] <dummkauf> Hello all
[19:37] <MythbuntuGuest35> hello
[19:37] <cosmic> hi MythbuntuGuest35 , hope youre fine
[19:38] <MythbuntuGuest35> i hope so too, thanks :)
[19:38] <dummkauf> I'm good....hoping someone can assist with some lirc issues
[19:38] <MythbuntuGuest35> i cant help i have enoght problmes that mythtv work sorry
[19:38] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest35:  good to read ,I am fine too thx
[19:39] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest35:  what for a prob ?
[19:39] <MythbuntuGuest35> he dont find any transmitters.... i tests it with mplayer...
[19:40] <MythbuntuGuest35> when i write mplayer dvb://sendername thten he saird dvb configuration is empty, exit... but mit strace mplayer dvb://sendername he found somethingand also when i wrote chown -R tv:users /dev/dvb/ it doesnt work. soemone an idear?
[19:40] <cosmic> dummkauf:  what for a device ?
[19:40] <MythbuntuGuest35> the device a correct installed i think....
[19:40] <dummkauf> I have an internal IR reciever that shows up under /proc/bus/usb/devices, however there is no /dev/lirc or /dev/lirc0, only the /dev/lircd socket.  I can load the modules lirc_mceusb2 and start the lirc dameon but every time I run irw it kills the daemon
[19:41] <cosmic> dummkauf:  thats hard , wrong lirc module ?
[19:41] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest35:  do you have kaffeine installed ?
[19:41] <MythbuntuGuest35> no
[19:42] <cosmic> what does your dmesg say ? do you have installed v4l-dvb ?
[19:42] <dummkauf> I've been trying other modules, but can't seem to get it working....and from googling around I am pretty confident that I should be using the lirc_mceusb2 module for that device
[19:42] <dummkauf>   iManufacturer           1 Topseed Technology Corp.
[19:42] <dummkauf>   iProduct                2 eHome Infrared Transceiver
[19:42] <dummkauf> thats what it's showing up as from a lsusb -v
[19:43] <cosmic> dummkauf:  poste ma dmesg
[19:43] <dummkauf> can I post a dmesg in here or should I be posting somewhere else?
[19:43] <cosmic> dummkauf:  please post me your dmesg
[19:43] <cosmic> somewhere else !°
[19:43] <cosmic> an give me the link
[19:44] <dummkauf> just checking :) ...been a while since I've been on an IRC channel
[19:44] <cosmic> use pastebin from TOPIC !
[19:44] <dummkauf> not sure how to do that, can I just post a URL for you?
[19:45] <rhpot1991> !pastebin
[19:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:46] <dummkauf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50632/
[19:47] <dummkauf> got it
[19:51] <cosmic> dummkauf:  whats that ? : lirc_mceusb2: no version for "lirc_get_pdata" found: kernel tainted.
[19:51] <cosmic> what for modules do you load ? lirc_dev
[19:51] <dummkauf> no idea...I'm hoping you know?
[19:52] <dummkauf> lirc_dev I didn't load, that was getting loaded by default after the install
[19:52] <cosmic> is it a pure Transceiver or receiver too ?
[19:52] <dummkauf> I was assuming that was needed for lirc
[19:52] <cosmic> lirc is from reposotories or compiled by youre self
[19:52] <dummkauf> repositories
[19:53] <dummkauf> and I am not sure whether it is a reciever or not
[19:53] <cosmic> dummkauf:  are youre german ?
[19:54] <cosmic> you
[19:54] <dummkauf> lol.....american but I have a lot of german blood in my family
[19:54] <cosmic> are you able to read german text ?
[19:54] <dummkauf> nope
[19:54] <cosmic> damn
[19:54] <cosmic> ;)
[19:54] <MythbuntuGuest73> mhhh i can tune in the channels but when i copy the channcels.conf to the mplayer it downt work he say configuration is empty, have someone an idear?
[19:55] <dummkauf> are you german cosmic?
[19:56] <dummkauf> also, this guy appears to have gotten this device working but the directions kind of suck
[19:56] <dummkauf> http://www.nabble.com/lirc-mce_usb2-add-device...-td13412387.html
[19:56] <dummkauf> maybe it makes sense to you?
[19:56] <cosmic> dummkauf:  YES I AM  ;) , try this one :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590909
[19:56] <cosmic> i will check your link , give me a moment
[19:57] <MythbuntuGuest73> cosmic hast du vielleicht noch eine idee?
[19:57] <MythbuntuGuest73> zu meinem problem?
[19:57] <dummkauf> I took german in high shcool but it's been years since and unt meine deutsch ist nicht ser gut
[19:57] <dummkauf> I think that makes sense anyway
[19:57] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest73:  ich kümmere mich gleich um Dich , poste mir deine dmesg über ein pastebin (siehe TOPIC)
[19:58] <cosmic> dummkauf:  thats good enough for me , and better then my english/american
[19:59] <cosmic> dummkauf:  the link , sounds good , do it and try out !
[20:00] <dummkauf> where is the mce_usb that guy is editing?
[20:00] <cosmic> its the module
[20:00] <dummkauf> the only module file I could find is a .ko which is binary
[20:01] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest73:  do you know how to do that ?
[20:01] <MythbuntuGuest73> paste kann ich nicht machen, da es an einem andern pc ist...er sagt in kurzvorm sucefulöly initialized and connect danach recv bulk message failed: -110 danach öfters could not submit URB no. 0 - get them all back
[20:01] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest73:  USB Receiver ?
[20:01] <MythbuntuGuest73> ja
[20:01] <cosmic> this Error Message is OK
[20:02] <cosmic> its a prob of the driver
[20:02] <MythbuntuGuest73> achso aber er würde trotzdem funktionieren?
[20:02] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest73:  how do you start mplayer
[20:02] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest73:  japp
[20:02] <MythbuntuGuest73> mbplayer dvb://sendername
[20:03] <MythbuntuGuest73> -b
[20:03] <cosmic> dummkauf:  i am searching , give me a mom
[20:03] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest73:  no device ?
[20:03] <MythbuntuGuest73> ich warte sonst, kümmere dich sonst ruhig erstmal in ruhe um den anderen....
[20:05] <cosmic> /lib/modules/<Kernel-Version>/misc/
[20:05] <cosmic> @ dummkauf
[20:05] <cosmic> where do you have the module from ?
[20:06] <dummkauf> I have that, but it is the lirc_mceusb2.ko file
[20:06] <dummkauf> there's no files that can be edited?
[20:07] <dummkauf> unless I'm supposed to be editing the binary??
[20:08] <cosmic> dummkauf:  whats with this one ? :http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2006-January/118097.html
[20:09] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest73:  Syntax from "$man mplayer" : mplayer dvb://[card_number@]channel [options]
[20:10] <MythbuntuGuest73> card_number?
[20:11] <dummkauf> cosmic: I don't have any lirc devices listed under /dev
[20:12] <dummkauf> cosmic: only the lircd socket
[20:13] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest73:  whats your error message ?
[20:13] <cosmic> dummkauf:  The guy from the link doesnt have it either , but its solved ? isnt it ?
[20:14] <MythbuntuGuest73> wenn ich mplayer dvb://0@sendername eingebe sagt er so weit das gleiche nur eben failed to open dvb://1@sendername udn davor dvb configuration is empty
[20:14] <cosmic> dummkauf:  sorry wrong link , thats the one : http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2006-January/118097.html
[20:16] <MythbuntuGuest73> davor could not connect to socket und connection refused faild to oben LIRC Support... das istz ja ok die ist inmoment nicht angeschloßen
[20:16] <MythbuntuGuest73> also die fernbediehnung
[20:17] <dummkauf> where is that LIRCD_OPTS, that looks like some kind of kernel setting to me?
[20:17] <dummkauf> I'd rather not compile a custom kernel
[20:17] <dummkauf> nm
[20:17] <dummkauf> found it
[20:17] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest73:  http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-dvb/2005-February/001605.html
[20:18] <cosmic> dummkauf:  yeah
[20:20] <MythbuntuGuest73> mhh i think meine channel liste ist ok, hab sie mir runtergeladen und mit einen anderen programm scheint er einige sender wohl auch zu finden, also mit linuxtv-dvb-apps
[20:21] <MythbuntuGuest73> mit nen scan befehl
[20:21] <MythbuntuGuest73> T 786000000 8MHz 2/3 NONE QAM16 8k 1/4 NONE <<< das ist doch im richtigen format, oder?!?
[20:22] <dummkauf> maybe i didn't find it..would that be the /etc/init.d/lirc file, or the /etc/lirc/hardware.conf file??  I can't find the LIRCD_OPTS in either
[20:24] <cosmic> /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[20:24] <MythbuntuGuest73> allerdings den rest mit der menu.con verstehe ich nicht so ganz, aber er muß sie ja auch kein menü anzeigen nur das er was findet...letztendlich will ich den mplayer garnicht zum tv schuan verwenden sondenr das myth programm...soll ja nur zum testen sein
[20:26] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest73:  Then scan with Myth
[20:26] <cosmic> myth-setup
[20:26] <MythbuntuGuest73> funktioniert ja leider nicht deswegen hatte mir einer geraten ich solle das erstmal so testen
[20:27] <cosmic> was machste dann im Myth ?
[20:27] <MythbuntuGuest73> also mit einen vollscan zeigt er zwar die sich wechselnde signalstärke an, aber er kann keien sender einlogen
[20:28] <cosmic> install kaffeine for testing
[20:28] <MythbuntuGuest73> wenn ich die requenz manuel eingebe sagt er immer table not found oder sowas, kann ich dir sonst gleich nochmal genau sagen
[20:28] <MythbuntuGuest73> ok mache ich
[20:28] <cosmic> ok bis gloich
[20:28] <MythbuntuGuest73> no irgend eine lib mit?
[20:30] <MythbuntuGuest73> ich nehem auch noch kaffeine-gstreamer und kaffeine-xine ja sowieso
[20:30] <cosmic> kaffeine is a real cool vid util
[20:31] <MythbuntuGuest73> ich hab damit noch nciht wirklich gearbeitet... so ist jetzt gestartet auf dem desktop der player
[20:32] <dummkauf> cosmic: that doesn't seem to be working either
[20:36] <cosmic> dummkauf:  whith version of Lirc ?
[20:37] <dummkauf> 0.8.2
[20:37] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest the start kaffeine go to the options ,chose  DVB -> chose your location (z.B. Hamburg) and then scan (with kaffeine)!
[20:39] <cosmic> dummkauf:  compiled by yourself ?
[20:39] <dummkauf> no
[20:39] <MythbuntuGuest73> mhh leichter gesagt als gteamn ich finde nur engine parameters oder configure kaffeine player und da finde ich nichts dvb und mein ort
[20:39] <cosmic> what a shame
[20:39] <dummkauf> ??
[20:39] <dummkauf> how so?
[20:40] <cosmic> dummkauf: mom plz
[20:41] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest73:  Oben in der Menü Leiste steht doch was mit DVB oder ?
[20:41] <MythbuntuGuest73> nein file view player playlist settings und help
[20:43] <cosmic> wenn da kein DVB steht , erkennt er anscheinend keine DVB Karte
[20:44] <MythbuntuGuest73> merkwürdig weißt du woran es liegen könnte?
[20:45] <cosmic> dummkauf:  i have compiled my lirc , cause i youse a homebrew receiver , and when i look in the setup script of the source package , i see your IR Device to select
[20:45] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest73:  falsche rechte ? geb das device ma frei für alle
[20:46] <MythbuntuGuest73> ach vielleicht liegt es daran hatte es vor kurzen mal installiert und da war es aujedenfall nicht richtig configuriert und da kam auch noch son fenster dvb not found nun beim erneuten installieren scheint es garnicht mehr zu kommen... vielleicht speichert er das noch von letztesmal, hatte es aber komplett wieder deinstalliert
[20:46] <cosmic> i just get something to eat , give me a mom guy's
[20:46] <dummkauf> Ill try compiling it myeslf, see what happens, be back in a bit
[20:46] <MythbuntuGuest73> chown -R tv:users /dev/dvb/ hab ich schon gemacht
[20:49] <MythbuntuGuest73> ohh jetzt jkappts ich habs nochmal eingegeben... warte mal
[20:49] <cosmic> lol
[20:49] <cosmic> :)
[20:49] <cosmic> dummkauf: good look, i think it should work , with your lirc version
[20:50] <MythbuntuGuest73> so nun scheint er zu scanne :))
[20:51] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest73:  zufrieden ?
[20:51] <MythbuntuGuest73> aujedefall schonmal nen stückchen näher :) es wäre natürlich schöner wenn das über myth geht
[20:52] <cosmic> nun geht das bestimmt
[20:53] <MythbuntuGuest73> mhhh aber er findet keine kanäle ... bzw logt die nicht ein....
[20:53] <MythbuntuGuest73> er läuft durch zeight die signalanzeige an dann bei lock ne grüne lampe aber in der liste sind keine
[20:54] <cosmic> MythbuntuGuest73: kein empfang ? , schlechter empfang ?
[20:54] <MythbuntuGuest73> mhh mal 23% und bei einigen kanälen 72...
[20:55] <MythbuntuGuest73> mal 87% sehe ich gerade
[20:55] <cosmic> pasive oder aktive Antenne ?
[20:55] <MythbuntuGuest73> passiv
[20:55] <MythbuntuGuest73> funktioniert aber in win bestens...
[20:58] <MythbuntuGuest73> mißte zu früh gefreut...
[20:59] <cosmic> kaffeine neu gestartet ? nach rechte änderung ?
[20:59] <MythbuntuGuest73> ja vorher ging das menü auch nicht, starte aber sonst den ganzen rechner neu...
[20:59] <MythbuntuGuest73> man weiß ja nie
[21:00] <cosmic> jo
[21:01] <cosmic> paste mir nomma deine dmesg
[21:01] <MythbuntuGuest73> so startet gerade neu, aber so hat das myth programm es auch gemacht beim vollständigen suchlauf, auschlag der signalstärke logt aber keine sender ein...
[21:02] <MythbuntuGuest73> ok gleich...fährt noch hoch
[21:03] <MythbuntuGuest73> mhh jetzt ist dvbt in kaffeine wieder weg das menü
[21:04] <cosmic> rechte !
[21:04] <cosmic> mach ma ein chmod -R a+rwx /dev/dvb*
[21:04] <MythbuntuGuest73> muß man die bei jeden neustart wieder setzen?
[21:05] <MythbuntuGuest73> ok
[21:05] <MythbuntuGuest73> mhh ne nun klappts nicht mehr und steht nicht mehr in kaffeine...
[21:06] <cosmic> verstehe ich jetzt gerade auch net , hmm , er legt das device ja jedes ma neu an !?! , vielleicht sollte dir anfangs ein einfaches startscript helfen
[21:06] <cosmic> kaffeine Neustart
[21:06] <MythbuntuGuest73> alles gemacht
[21:06] <cosmic> bei dir stimmt was ganz gewaltig nich ... oder ich raffs gerade nich ...
[21:07] <MythbuntuGuest73> so alt ist mien system eigentlich noch nicht und so viel kaputtgespielt werde ich glaube ich auch nicht gemacht haben....
[21:07] <MythbuntuGuest73> hoffe ich...
[21:10] <cosmic> haste ma n scan manuell ausgeführt ?
[21:10] <MythbuntuGuest73> wie meinste das?
[21:12] <cosmic> na du hast doch das tool "scan" um deine eigene channel.conf zu erzeugen oder ? war das nicht so ?
[21:12] <MythbuntuGuest73> nein das hat bei mir nicht funktiooniert bash hat nur fehler gemeldet
[21:13] <MythbuntuGuest73> deswegen eine aus dem netz gezogen
[21:13] <MythbuntuGuest73> und die hat dann mit den einen programm funktioniert da hat er scheinbar welche gefunden
[21:13] <cosmic> ???
[21:13] <MythbuntuGuest73> aber wieso geht kafeine nun imme rnoch nicht habs 20 mal oder so eingegeben.......
[21:13] <cosmic> naja , fang ma klein an un probier ma sowas hier oder so  : http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/archive/index.php/t-221218.html
[21:14] <cosmic> Da fehlt noch mehr
[21:14] <cosmic> bei dir stimmt , noch was anneres nicht , hab da heut nur leider keine zeit mehr ... muss morgen früh raus
[21:15] <MythbuntuGuest73> achso ok trotzdem dir veilen dank für deine hilfe
[21:16] <MythbuntuGuest73> aber vielleicht haste ja noch eine idee, bzw. weißt woran es liegt wenn ich ein mpeg video mit den vlc media player wiedergebe funktioniert es bestens, nur über das myth wiedergabe programm ruckelt es....
[21:18] <cosmic> bei myth , öffnest da mit lokal oder mit mplayer , des video welches ruckelt ?
[21:18] <MythbuntuGuest73> lokal von der festplatte, ist ein aufgenommenes mpeg video
[21:18] <cosmic> lokal = Myth eigener player
[21:18] <MythbuntuGuest73> bei myth ruckelt es
[21:19] <cosmic> findest in den einstellungen unter Video
[21:19] <MythbuntuGuest73> und da ruckelt es aber beui vlc wenn ich es local damit öffne nicht
[21:19] <cosmic> welches format mit welchen eisntellungen geöffnet werden soll
[21:19] <MythbuntuGuest73> ich schau gerade welches ist die select daste hab gerade keine fernbediehnung zur hant
[21:19] <MythbuntuGuest73> weißte das?!?
[21:20] <cosmic> ?
[21:20] <cosmic> enter
[21:20] <MythbuntuGuest73> kann dort nur kategorie... kidnersicheurng vover ec einstellen
[21:20] <cosmic> ???
[21:20] <cosmic> mom
[21:21] <MythbuntuGuest73> ah ok gib niochmal robrik video
[21:21] <MythbuntuGuest73> aber she ekeine auflösung oder sowas
[21:22] <cosmic> Mythfrontend -> Konfiguration -> Medien -> Videos -> Wiedergabe
[21:23] <MythbuntuGuest73> ok und was muß man da ändern?!?
[21:24] <MythbuntuGuest73> steht inmoment mplayer -fs -zoom -quit -vo xv %s
[21:24] <morfar> \q
[21:25] <cosmic> sorry , nicht WIEDERGABE , sondern Dateitypen
[21:26] <MythbuntuGuest73> bei mpg steht komando internal
[21:26] <MythbuntuGuest73> macht ncihts
[21:28] <cosmic> dann nimm mplayer
[21:28] <cosmic> ich muss jetzt sorry
[21:28] <MythbuntuGuest73> hab nun den standart player mal angeklickt nun hängt er macht nichts, vielelicht biste morgen ja wieder da?
[21:28] <cosmic> Cu @ all
[21:28] <cosmic> bis mrgen
[21:28] <MythbuntuGuest73> tschüüß und vielen dank
[21:29] <cosmic> gern
[21:29] <MythbuntuGuest73> bye at all
[21:53] <pdragon> http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/01/netflix-partner.html     would be nice if netflix just made a software package that does it instead of an appliance. could make it part of mythtv then! :)
[22:06]  * KjetilK is struggling to find the idVendor for his PVR-150 card
[22:06] <KjetilK> I'm trying to do what it says in http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Volume_Knob_on_Antec_Fusion
[22:10] <dummkauf> ok, I'm back, tried compiling lirc from source and that gave me /dev/lirc, however irw still killed the lirc daemon, and after a reboot I no longer have /dev/lirc, so I'm back to where I started
[22:33] <john__> where in mythtv do u change where the videos are located under media library? I changed the location in the front end but it doesn't work
[23:11] <JThundley> somewhere in the settings, I don't know off the top of my head
[23:11] <JThundley> maybe in the backend settings somewhere, probably in mythsetup
[23:12] <JThundley> some UTF8 stuff isn't working on my mythbuntu system
[23:12] <JThundley> it never displays weird characters correctly
[23:13] <JThundley> on my debian machine: Playing Motörhead/Ace of Spades/The Hammer.ogg.
[23:13] <JThundley> on my mythbuntu machine: Playing Mot�rhead/Ace of Spades/The Hammer.ogg.
[23:14] <JThundley> it's causing sendxmpp to barf in sending log files
[23:14] <JThundley> utf8 "\xF6" does not map to Unicode at /usr/bin/sendxmpp line 89, <STDIN> line 30.
[23:27] <john__> How do i turn the volume on the mythtv to max?
[23:45] <john__> also how do i change the default network name to another name?
[23:47] <JThundley> sudo hostname newname, I believe
[23:48] <JThundley> yeah, I just did it on my system
[23:48] <JThundley> if you're doing it for samba shares, you should restart samba too
[23:49] <john__> thanks