[10:54] <cfhowlett_> varikonniemi, for contact with the  ppa team see the ppa page and go direct.   this is not the place
[10:55] <CodeGosu> bekks: switched to sandy bridge gpu [g530 cpu]
[10:56] <CodeGosu> bekks: it did work on integrated before i had discrete gpu
[10:56] <bongisngis> how to download youtube videos guys?
[10:56] <bekks> CodeGosu: which is an optimus one, and not supposed to work with the stock nvidia driver
[10:56] <bekks> !optimus | CodeGosu
[10:57] <piyushmishra> hi I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on my 64-bit asus laptop via USB. Got till the screen http://i.stack.imgur.com/3N7PW.png
[10:58] <piyushmishra> I read http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it/162076#162076 but I cant seem to make much sense of what I should do next to try :-/
[10:58] <doyle> hi
[10:59] <doyle> i was trying to find the xubuntu channel
[10:59] <bekks> doyle: which is #xubuntu
[10:59] <piyushmishra> doyle:  http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/chat
[11:00] <piyushmishra> can anyone help me with the black screen of death during install?
[11:00] <bongisngis> hi everyone..how do i download youtube video guys?
[11:00] <bekks> !nomodeset | piyushmishra
[11:00] <jorijn_> so this (http://i.imgur.com/NbH08Qx.jpg) happens to me on a hidpi screen (14.04), how do i get the rest of the interface on 2.0 as well?
[11:00] <jak2013> i installed postfix and dovecot and squirrelmail, when try acces to squirrelmail i get this error: squirrelmail error connecting to imap server localhost. 111 connection refused
[11:01] <llutz> jak2013: and your imap-server listens on localhost?
[11:01] <piyushmishra> bekks: I am on this screen http://i.stack.imgur.com/3N7PW.png
[11:01] <llutz> jak2013: sudo lsof -i :143
[11:01] <piyushmishra> sorry for the noobness but I have no idea how to change stuff from there :-/
[11:01] <bekks> piyushmishra: Did you read the article given yet?
[11:01] <jak2013> no results
[11:02] <bekks> jak2013: So no imap server is running
[11:02] <llutz> jak2013: check dovecot,
[11:02] <llutz> jak2013: using imaps?  sudo lsof -i :993
[11:02] <jak2013> llutz dovecot service not started not
[11:03] <jak2013> i have results on: sudo lsof -i :993 command
[11:03] <jak2013> testing again
[11:03] <llutz> jak2013: then you have to tell squirrelmail to use imaps not imap
[11:03] <bongisngis> hey everyone is there a youtube downloader for this distro?
[11:04] <llutz> !info youtube-dl | bongisngis
[11:04] <bongisngis> how do i download?
[11:04] <llutz> bongisngis: sudo apt-get install ...
[11:05] <cfhowlett_> bongisngis, software center
[11:05] <jak2013> llutz: i access now squirrelmail webpage, when try send email i get this error: Message not sent. Server replied:  and of course the email wasnt sent
[11:05] <llutz> jak2013: check logs
[11:05] <jak2013> tail /var/log/mail.log right?
[11:06] <llutz> jak2013: wherever you configured logging to
[11:07] <piyushmishra> bekks: I hit "e" to edit on the previious screen and I am met with a screen similar to this http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png now I have to try things to get it to work. Again, I am sorry for my noobness but do I just add the lines on top?
[11:07] <bekks> piyushmishra: fix that misspelling please, it needs to be "nomodeset".
[11:08] <bekks> piyushmishra: Then just follow the instructions at the boot for booting.
[11:09] <piyushmishra> bekks: that is not my exact screen. well let me try and take a picture of the screen I see with my phone and upload sec.
[11:10] <bekks> piyushmishra: It's a waste of time to paste "similar" images, while not pasting what you are actually seeing. ;)
[11:11] <TopBloke> what is the best and simplest rsync command to check if new files have been modified or added, I'm looking to save time or does rsync do this automatically
[11:11] <bekks> TopBloke: "rsync source target" - as the documentation for rsync suggests.
[11:11] <llutz> TopBloke: use incron to monitor the directory, on change run rsync
[11:13] <llutz> TopBloke: or just run rsync every x minutes, it will sync new/changed files or just quit if there were no changes
[11:14] <piyushmishra> bekks: I was trying to say which screen I am on from the article :D bad idea I see. Here is my screen exactly on the edit mode. http://i.imgur.com/RhGvCAS.jpg  Tell me if you cant read :)
[11:14] <yan2014> Hello. How can I donate to Ubuntu wihtout using credit card and PayPal?
[11:15] <bekks> piyushmishra: add "nomodeset" after "splash" and before "--". Then follow the instructions on the bottom of the screen to boot.
[11:15] <TopBloke> llutz: Thanks I'm confused with all the azv options, I'm dyslectic and things dont come easy to me. Will the following work for me rsync -av /public/Videos /media/usb0/serverBackup  :)
[11:15] <piyushmishra> yup ok :)
[11:16] <llutz> TopBloke: should work
[11:16] <bekks> TopBloke: All you need is "-av"
[11:16] <TopBloke> thank you both
[11:17] <piyushmishra> bekks: nope :( still dead so I keep trying all the options from the article between "splash" and "--"?
[11:18] <dupingping> Hello guys.
[11:18] <dupingping> I had already solve my problem was in Ubuntu12.04.04.
[11:19] <dupingping> It is about selinux and lightdm.
[11:20] <bekks> piyushmishra: Do not try "all the options". Add "nomodeset" between "splash" and "--".
[11:20] <piyushmishra> bekks: I did and still Black screen of death
[11:20] <bekks> piyushmishra: which graphics chipset do you have?
[11:22] <yan2014> How can I donate to Ubuntu wihtout using credit card and PayPal?
[11:23] <yan2014> How can I make account able to read memory cards?
[11:25] <piyushmishra> bekks: Chipset > Intel® HM55 Express Chipset Graphics > Integrated Intel® GMA HD laptop> https://www.asus.com/Commercial_Notebook/P52F/#specifications
[11:25] <dupingping> Hi guys
[11:26] <dupingping> What is the best afp server project in ubunut?
[11:26] <bongisngis> hello guys i have a problem when downloading youtube videos using youtube-dl,its says KeyError: 'sig'...any idea guys..
[11:27] <canis_> which software is best for downloading software in ubuntu?
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> bongisngis  i have that too, in 12.04, not sure what causes it, tho
[11:27] <llutz> !best | canis_ dupingping
[11:27] <k1l> canis_: what software?
[11:27] <dupingping> canis_: ah, no.  best atpserver.
[11:27] <piyushmishra> yan2014: I dont think you can, all articles I could come up with say that PayPal is the only option
[11:27] <dupingping> canis_: ah, no.  best atpserver. expect netatalk
[11:28] <cfhowlett_> llutz, seems the bots have been reviewed recently.  several old favorites - like !best are no no more
[11:28] <canis_> atpserver
[11:28] <bongisngis> can someone help us..
[11:28] <dupingping> llutz: what?
[11:28] <llutz> cfhowlett_: i just wondered where it went... thx
[11:28] <k1l> canis_: use the ubuntu package system with the ubuntu repos
[11:28] <dupingping> please help me
[11:28] <cfhowlett_> bongisngis, try the youtube downloader plugins instead
[11:28] <yan2014> piyushmishra, are You sure that there is no option to send money from a credit union?
[11:28] <canis_> but how to use it
[11:28] <bekks> dupingping: There is no "best".
[11:29] <bongisngis> where do i find plugin?
[11:29] <dupingping> bekks: oh, please teach me, what is best?
[11:29] <bekks> bongisngis: In the plugin store of your browsr.
[11:29] <cfhowlett_> bongisngis, youtube > tools > addons
[11:29] <bekks> dupingping: There is no best.
[11:29] <dupingping> bekks: do you play with me?
[11:29] <bongisngis> ok thks..
[11:29] <dupingping> bekks: what is the afpserver name on ubuntu.
[11:29] <bekks> dupingping: No.I just keep answering the same answer for the same questions.
[11:30] <cfhowlett_> dupingping, he's not playing.  what's "best" is the one you know, the one that works and the one you use.
[11:30] <bekks> dupingping: netatalk
[11:30] <dupingping> bekks: it's my mistake,
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> dupingping  "best" is the one you prefer
[11:30] <dupingping> bekks: any one expect netatalk?
[11:31] <bekks> dupingping: No.
[11:31] <dupingping> Ah, Yes, Sorry and sorry and very sorry. It's my mistake. HHHHHHHHHHHmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
[11:31] <dupingping> bekks: really?
[11:31] <bekks> dupingping: Yes.
[11:31] <dupingping> bekks: thanks for your time.
[11:35] <canis_> hi
[11:37] <piyushmishra> bekks: any idea what might be the issue?
[11:39] <bekks> piyushmishra: you could try to boot into recovery mode, and install the graphics driver for you chipset.
[11:39] <bekks> piyushmishra: I cant help you with that, since I never used integrated chipsets.
[11:39] <piyushmishra> bekks: I have win 7 installed already, trying to get this as dual boot LTS
[11:40] <red234324> Hi all, how can I get a print out of the details of my laptop (CPU/RAM/GFX etc) ?
[11:40] <bekks> red234324: lshw
[11:41] <red234324> thx bekks, that worked, is there a more graphical version, say that prints to a html page rather than terminal ?
[11:41] <bekks> no
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> red234324  lshw -html > hardware.html
[11:44] <bekks> ah, good to know.
[11:45] <red234324> sudo lshw -html > sudohardware.html
[11:45] <red234324> thx bekks + MonkeyDust - that looks like the info I wanted and looks good too :)
[11:46] <piyushmishra> bekks: I am trying to follow things from here. can you help me make some sense out of them? http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it/162076#162076
[11:46] <piyushmishra> bekks: I am on Point 3 "Black screenor"you need to load kernel first" and "can not read file/cd0" errorswhen installing to an UEFI capable machine:"
[11:47] <bekks> piyushmishra: get into the boot menu, and remove "quiet" and "splash" to see whats going on.
[11:47] <piyushmishra> bekks: ok
[11:47] <piyushmishra> bekks: add nomodeset or not?
[11:48] <bekks> piyushmishra: First try it without
[11:50] <piyushmishra> bekks:  both Black screens :-/
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> red234324  also try    sudo dmidecode         -- read man dmicode for details
[11:57] <red234324> thx, sudo dmidecode > sudodmihardware.txt - seems like similar info to lshw but a little different which could be useful to find those code nums you sometimes need for hw
[12:03] <bekks> red234324: most likely, all you need is lspci -k and lsusb -v
[12:03] <GJPMiningco> hey all i am trying to mod a script that builds a set of files into a dir of the Current Version but in the build file i have to keep modding the Version= line
[12:03] <GJPMiningco> what is the command that i can put on that Version= to make it use the Current Date as the version number
[12:03] <bekks> GJPMiningco: Can you be a bit more precise, not that generic please?
[12:04] <bekks> GJPMiningco: Which entry in which file do you want to turn into what entry?
[12:06] <funbox> Hello :)
[12:06] <red234324> bekks, thx, the more the merrier :)
[12:06] <funbox> Can anyone tell me if i can completely remove Unity?
[12:07] <cfhowlett_> !notunity|funbox,
[12:07] <cfhowlett_> !nounity
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> funbox  if you don't like unity, install and use a different DE -- logout, switch, login
[12:08] <funbox> I'm on 12.04
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> funbox  me too
[12:09] <funbox> I haven't used Linux before,I'm sorry
[12:09] <funbox> Just downloaded Manual for it
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> funbox  then first get a bit more familiar with it
[12:09] <GJPMiningco> bekks, i have a .sh file that builds over 3,000 files as part of an OS
[12:10] <GJPMiningco> and this is a daily build thing
[12:10] <funbox> Is it possible to switch the options of minimize,close to the right corner or the bar?
[12:10] <llutz> GJPMiningco: sed -ri "s/(Version\=).*/\1$(date +%x)/" file
[12:10] <bekks> GJPMiningco: And? Which string do you want to replace with which other string?
[12:10] <funbox> Can you please tell me how do i copy shortcuts on the desktop? like Firefox?
[12:11] <GJPMiningco> in that file it is using a manually set version= line to date the dir that everything is in
[12:11] <GJPMiningco> can i do Version-$DATE
[12:11] <newhoa> Has anyone here ever used the Hauppauge HVR-1800?
[12:11] <bekks> newhoa: I bet peopl did.
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> funbox  start with the basics
[12:12] <cfhowlett_> !anyone|newhoa,
[12:12] <cfhowlett_> newhoa, statistically speaking: yes.  now what is your REAL question?
[12:12] <funbox> Okay,I guess manual would come handy now xD,Thanks for the help tho
[12:13] <funbox> Now i don't think i have use of the "windows" key on my keyboard
[12:15] <newhoa> Haha, well, it may be specific to people who have experience. Anyway, from what I read the Analog inputs (S-video + L & R Audio) didn't work for some time. But most sources I've read haven't been updated in almost two years. So I was wondering if anyone knew if they worked - AND if the S-video allowed raw/framegrabber mode.
[12:16] <bekks> newhoa: "does anyone use..." is unspecific to everyone. And the age of the sources is specific to age of the hardware, which is about 2 years old now.
[12:17] <newhoa> Well thanks for that.
[12:18] <GJPMiningco> I got it Nevermind bekks
[12:18] <GJPMiningco> thanks for the help
[12:20] <Munster> Hello
[12:35] <MrPPS> Bekks - solved it
[12:35] <MrPPS> Ended up being my fstab entries for Windows partitions
[12:35] <MrPPS> Weird, as they haven't caused issues before
[12:37] <Dureiken> Hi there, I would like to know if I can add a second argument to a daemon ? sudo service toto restart tata for example ? thanks
[12:40] <ogra_> Dureiken, see "man service"
[12:40] <Dureiken> ogra_ ok thanks
[12:41] <ogra_> (and man initctl)
[12:41] <ogra_> (the latter might be more interesting)
[12:41] <Dureiken> do I have to define numbers of argfs ?
[12:41] <Dureiken> because $1 works but $2 seems not
[12:42] <llutz> Dureiken: it depends on the init-script i'd guess
[12:42] <ogra_> yes
[12:42] <ogra_> you can pass KEY=VALUE ... as man initctl describes ... but indeed the upstart job needs to be able to do something with it
[12:43] <llutz> Dureiken: example: /etc/init.d/ssh   has a line: ....  if [ -n "$2" ]; then SSHD_OPTS="$SSHD_OPTS $2" ....     /etc/init.d/ntp hasn't, it would ignore $2
[12:44] <ogra_> llutz, /etc/init.d is unused
[12:44] <ogra_> the jobs live in /etc/init/
[12:44] <llutz> ogra_: service is a sysV-init tools
[12:44] <llutz> tool*
[12:46] <Dureiken> hum
[12:46] <ogra_> service calls initctl for nearly all jobs (there are admittedly a few coming from debian in universe that still forcefully use sysvinit and the upstart compat layer)
[12:46] <Dureiken> I don't understand what you say, I'm really beginner in linux
[12:46] <ogra_> butu these are really few
[12:46] <ogra_> Dureiken, post your job to a pastebin
[12:46] <Dureiken> I made a daemon first time last week seeing tutorial, I just would like to add a second argument
[12:46] <Dureiken> http://pastebin.com/qnnS0t1b
[12:46] <spispopd> can someone help me
[12:47] <spispopd> somehow my default screen resolution is set to 1024x768
[12:47] <javaholic> can someone explain to me what is meant by model in the last comment in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1524287.html
[12:48] <ogra_> so you could use a global var called "ARG2", read that in your script and parse it
[12:48] <Dureiken> ogra_ where do I define ARG2 ? I don't see where ARG1 is
[12:49] <ogra_> initctl toto restart ARG2=groestl
[12:49] <ogra_> and instead of:
[12:49] <ogra_> case "$2" in
[12:49] <ogra_> you use:
[12:49] <ogra_> case "$ARG2" in
[12:49] <compdoc> javaholic, its a setting in the file
[12:50] <ogra_> something like that might work
[12:50] <javaholic> which file?
[12:50] <ogra_> Dureiken, but i would suggest using an upstart job instead of a sysvinit script
[12:51] <ogra_> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ has documentation how to write one
[12:51] <Dureiken> ogra_ oh :) I have to learn a lot
[12:51] <compdoc> javaholic, the settings are mentioned: "model=basic"  "model=eeepc-p901" . The file is "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
[12:51] <javaholic> options snd-hda-intel model=generic ?
[12:51] <Guest86802> What to do so that Ubuntu will detect USB connected Canon Printer ?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> Dureiken  and learning something new can be frustrating, don't let that discourage you
[12:51] <compdoc> cant say, just look in "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
[12:52] <Dureiken> ogra_ I tried ARG2, doesn't work
[12:52] <Dureiken> sudo service mineur restart ARG2=groestl and case "$ARG2" in
[12:52] <ogra_> Dureiken, might not work with old sysvinit
[12:53] <ogra_> Dureiken, try: export ARG2=groestl;  sudo service mineur restart
[12:54] <Dureiken> same :(
[12:54] <ogra_> well, then write an upstart job :)
[12:54] <ogra_> it sdefinitely supports this ... (used all the time in ubuntu)
[12:55] <javaholic> what other models are possible besides generic?
[12:56] <pulsar78_> is trusty alpha upgradable to the beta? or does it have massive complications and should i wait on the beta ?
[12:56] <javaholic> model=AD1988B would work?
[12:56] <javaholic> if I had been using it before?
[12:56] <javaholic> (AD1998B)
[12:57] <compdoc> maybe. worth a try
[12:57] <ogra_> pulsar78_, runs fine here (and yes, if you regulary update you should get the beta)
[12:58] <ogra_> just make sure to always use the update-manager, it cares for some migrations apt doesnt do on its own
[12:58] <javaholic> what could I do to make sure I have the right model?
[12:58] <pulsar78_> ogra: awesome, its upgrade time then ..
[12:59] <zakaria> hi
[12:59] <pulsar78_> ogra: did you have any problems regarding bluetooth ?
[12:59] <zakaria> hello
[12:59] <zakaria> oo
[12:59] <ogra_> pulsar78_, i must admit i dont use BT much ... so i cant tell
[12:59] <zakaria> u?
[12:59] <zakaria> ok
[13:00] <ogra_> pulsar78_, you could check launchpad for bugs ;)
[13:00] <perlsaiyan> I just upgraded to a 4k monitor (Dell P2815Q) and now I have supertiny fonts
[13:00] <pulsar78_> ogra_, well are going to find out then =)
[13:00] <ogra_> perlsaiyan, 14.04 has some wayss to handle this now
[13:00] <perlsaiyan> Oh?
[13:00] <ogra_> (on older releases you are most likely out of luck)
[13:01] <perlsaiyan> Ah, I'm fairly power user -- safe enough to upgrade for a simple browser/terminal box?
[13:02] <piyushmishra> bekks: if is it of any help, I was able to boot into linux mint live without any issues at all :-/
[13:06] <perlsaiyan> Going to try 14.04, wish me luck :)
[13:09] <piyushmishra> perlsaiyan: best of luck!!!
[13:14] <plepzz> If you're about to design a server setup, which program do you use to visualise the setup? Like how nginx mysql memcached etc are connected. I've heard about Microsoft Visio, but I'm looking for another alternative for either Ubuntu or OS X.
[13:15] <ogra_> perlsaiyan, once you are there, there is a slider in the display settings in the unity-control-center where you can adjust the UI scaling factor
[13:15] <perlsaiyan> Nice, that will sort the wife out, I'll have to find something similar for i3wm
[13:30] <yepoo> Can any one tell me what's the difference between " dhcpd.conf"  and " /etc/init/isc-dhcp-server.conf" and which one i should put my configuration in ???
[13:32] <ogra_> yepoo, files in /etc/init are upstart jobs that start and stop services ... not configuration files
[13:33] <LeartS> Hi guys. I just wanted to say that Unity is awesome. I've just found out about the Ctrl + Alt + num (numpad) shortcut, awesome. In the middle of all the hate you got because of it, I just wanted to say that I honestly think is't the best DE Shell at the moment, period.
[13:34] <yepoo>  <ogra_> can you provide me with links to learn more about using isc-dhcp-server in ubuntu ?
[13:34] <ogra_> LeartS, hold donw your windows (super) keyy for a bit on an empty screen, thne Unity lists even more key kombos
[13:35] <LeartS> ogra_: yes, that's how I found out that key. Most of the others I already knew (Ctrl + SUper + up is another I didn't know though)
[13:35] <LeartS> and it doesn't need to be on an empty screen btw, it works for me anywhere
[13:35] <LeartS> *everywhere
[13:36] <ogra_> yepoo, well, there should be a manpage for dhcpd.conf ... and usually debian and ubuntu packages ship README files in /usr/share/doc/<packagename>/ with some info too
[13:36] <ogra_> LeartS, ah, great, i never tried it on a screen that has something on it :)
[13:37] <Korkel> Hey, booting from an USB with Ubuntu 13.10 gives a black sceen.. ideas?
[13:37] <perlsaiyan> Hrm, do-release-upgrade -d died :(  Continuing with apt-get -f install
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> perlsaiyan  that -d means develop, maybe it's not what you want
[13:39] <perlsaiyan> Nah, think it's fine -- it looks like it tried to do something while install-docs wasn't installed
/usr/share/doc/isc-dhcp-server/ is empty there is no README files ?
[13:41] <Yakisoba-> Hi! when i try write SMBTREE in terminal, i got Unknown socket option SO_SNDB$   What i doing wron g?
[13:41] <jjavaholic> how can i reinstall xorg?
[13:41] <yepoo>  <ogra_> never mind i found it !!
[13:42] <jjavaholic> (safely)
[13:43] <cisconinja> good morning folks
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> 2.45 pm here
[13:44] <cisconinja> MonkeyDust: i am so happy for you !
[13:45] <cisconinja> I lefet a tail -f /var/log/auth.log running over night, and to my shock i saw a bunch of field password attempt for root from different ip source ?
[13:46] <jjavaholic> is "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg" safe?
[13:46] <LeartS> jjavaholic: what do you mean by safe?
[13:47] <cisconinja> and they are all from china
[13:47] <jjavaholic> low risk of things going wrong?
[13:49] <LeartS> based absolutely on nothing: I think ctrl alt f1 -> your command should be pretty safe
[13:50] <cisconinja> I lefet a tail -f /var/log/auth.log running over night, and to my shock i saw a bunch of field password attempt for root from different ip source ? and they are all from china. how can i stop this
[13:50] <perlsaiyan> cisconinja: I use fail2ban for that
[13:51] <cisconinja> perlsaiyan: do i take one before bed and one after i wake up ;)
[13:51] <cisconinja> perlsaiyan: sorry it sounded like a real med :)
[13:51] <perlsaiyan> heh
[13:54] <rommel> will the daily build of 14.04 upgrade to lts or will you need to reinstall
[13:54] <andry> why did i never use pidgin for irc ;P its actually great
[13:54] <vishal> any one there plz help
[13:54] <cisconinja> perlsaiyan: thank you for that tip, do i need to apt-get install it or there is a special way
[13:54] <LeartS> andry: real pros use weechat or irssi!
[13:54] <LeartS> :P
[13:54]  * cisconinja googling fail2ban
[13:55] <perlsaiyan> cisconinja: pretty sure it's packaged in ubuntu for a long time
[13:55] <jmztaylor> cisconinja, i use csf to ip ban brute force attempts
[13:55] <rommel> vishal, ask a specific question , if anyone knows they will help you
[13:55] <LeartS> cisconinja: or you could just disable password access for root
[13:55] <vishal> i want to install ubuntu while installing along side option not coming plz help ,and in some other option its coming only one drive but in windows i have 3 drives
[13:55] <LeartS> vishal: there are 1504 people here
[13:55] <dylan> does anyone here know web design?
[13:56] <Yakisoba-> help please: when i run "smbtree" in terminal = result nothing
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> dylan  how is that ubuntu related?
[13:58] <rommel> vishal, i have to say that installer was a bit dissapointing... for me it saw win7 and i choose to install with it but it was unbootable after
[13:58] <rommel> vishal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[13:59] <rommel> vishal, and here is another search hit http://askubuntu.com/questions/116883/ubuntu-alongside-windows-not-available-how-to-install-it
[13:59] <Yakisoba-> i wanna set up Samba to watch folders of other PC in my Ubuntu
[14:01] <dylan> MonkeyDust, I can't find a web design chat that is active, do you know of any?
[14:01] <LeartS> Yakisoba-: you may want to try asking your question in #samba
[14:01] <LeartS> if nobody answers here
[14:01] <Yakisoba-> LeartS: ok
[14:01] <faqih_dan_kucing> ._. hello ._.
[14:02] <cisconinja> LeartS: and if i disable root , will that also disable the used with sudo
[14:02] <LeartS> dylan: do you need a chat? I think there is a web design stackexchange
[14:02] <LeartS> and stackexschanges are usually pretty good
[14:03] <LeartS> cisconinja: disabling root login does not disable root operations with sudo. Also note that I said disable *password* root login, not all root login - you could leave SSH key root login enabled
[14:03] <chinkung> hello
[14:04] <LeartS> but the best way is to disable root altoghether and make users use sudo to do root operations: that way you know who did what
[14:04] <LeartS> and there are other advantages
[14:04] <chinkung> I have a problem on ubuntu 12.04 when I ticked "Use this connection only for resources on its network" while connect to VPN, I can't connect to internal network
[14:05] <alakulihal> Hello all
[14:06] <LeartS> cisconinja: http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/1s1lsm/linux_admins_sudo_vs_root/
[14:06] <alakulihal> Ubuntu 14.04 use unity 7 or 8 for default?
[14:06] <faqih_dan_kucing> Unity 7 sir :3
[14:07] <alakulihal> haha
[14:07] <faqih_dan_kucing> tehe :3
[14:07] <rommel> i think 8 was tied in with the release of mir
[14:07] <faqih_dan_kucing> yepz, yu right rommel
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> dylan  start in #html
[14:08] <LeartS> alakulihal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnityNextSpec#Roadmap
[14:09] <luby> !list
[14:09] <LeartS> lol
[14:10] <alakulihal> I use trusty tahr, but shortcuts not work,
[14:10] <alakulihal> Ex: screenshot
[14:10] <faqih_dan_kucing> ._. I still used that shortcut ._.
[14:10] <alakulihal> ex: media player rythmbox.
[14:10] <perlsaiyan> Okay, 14.04 installed, time to reboot, happy thoughts
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> alakulihal  maybe because 14.04 isnt ready yet, support in #ubuntu+1
[14:12] <LeartS> faqih_dan_kucing: I don't think they don't work *by choice
[14:12] <finga> is there a dedicated ubuntu mobile/phone channel on freenode?
[14:12] <faqih_dan_kucing> so ? ._.
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> !phone | rich-
[14:12] <LeartS> finga: #ubuntu-touch
[14:13] <rommel> must be #ubuntu-touch
[14:13] <LeartS> faqih_dan_kucing: so you will be able to use that shortcut..
[14:13] <LeartS> It's not going anywhere
[14:13] <finga> LeartS: thx
[14:13] <faqih_dan_kucing> ._. wat ? ._.
[14:14] <alakulihal> MonkeyDust thanks
[14:16] <clyfe> my apache does not serve any requests, I can't seem to debug it ..
[14:17] <perlsaiyan> Okay, 14.04 works great.  And I found the slider, which helps everything except the fonts in menus and on webpages and such
[14:17] <clyfe> trying to set a local development env
[14:17] <LeartS> clyfe: what error code?
[14:17] <clyfe> LeartS: Error code: ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> clyfe  ubuntu server? if yes: there's also #ubuntu-server
[14:18] <erriq> can you help me
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> erriq  let's hear it
[14:18] <erriq> i want to install tor for ubuntu
[14:18] <clyfe> MonkeyDust: it's ubuntu desktop actually but trying to do server stuff
[14:19] <OerHeks> !tor | err
[14:19] <LeartS> 1) is apache running? `status apache` or `service apache status` or something of the sort
[14:19] <perlsaiyan> xdpyinfo still shows 96dpi, but changing it to 168 didn't change any font sizes
[14:20] <clyfe> LeartS: /etc/apache2$ sudo service apache2 status
[14:20] <clyfe>  * apache2 is running
[14:20] <cassio> hello. if I install beta 14.04 on a machine
[14:21] <cassio> can they then upgrade to final when it is out?
[14:21] <cassio> or what will happen?
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> cassio  ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:21] <cassio> sorry monkeydust
[14:21] <cassio> thanks
[14:24] <LeartS> clyfe: 2) is it accepting connections on that port? (I assume you tried 80): 'lsof -i:80`
[14:25] <LeartS> or `netstat -l`
[14:26] <jjavaholic> my xorg.0.log is flooded with these help please: http://i.imgur.com/Hj20iAm.png
[14:26] <andry> that font gave me cancer
[14:26] <LeartS> lol really, what is that? :P
[14:27] <LeartS> I should use it when coding!
[14:27] <jjavaholic> no one seems to like the font
[14:27] <jjavaholic> I don't get it I spend hours and probably days trying out fonts
[14:28] <jjavaholic> it looks real nice in the terminal as well
[14:28] <LeartS> jjavaholic: just different tasted :)
[14:29] <LeartS> but you should use a monospace font in the terminal, at least..
[14:30] <LeartS> *tastes
[14:30] <jjavaholic> ocd uniformity is a *****
[14:30] <Guest73887> i just installed kde desktop using sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , now i cant login
[14:30] <en4> i cannot successfully complete a unity --reset command and have no desktop (halts after "Setting Update "run_key"" with a bunch of Warn messages). what to do? i've tried reinstalling a lot of graphical packages but can't reset unity or compiz
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> Guest73887  whaqt happens when you try?
[14:31] <Guest73887> nothing
[14:31] <Guest73887> it erases the login
[14:31] <clyfe> LeartS: dropbox 4317 clyfe   29u  IPv4  22702      0t0  TCP <IP_ADDRESS>:54539->snt-re2-8d.sjc.dropbox.com:http (ESTABLISHED)
[14:31] <clyfe> LeartS: dunno what that means, its the lsof output
[14:32] <LeartS> clyfe: that means that apache isn't listening on port 80 (the default port for http connections), or you would've see it there
[14:33] <clyfe> LeartS: I have "Listen 80" in /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[14:33] <en4> also, trying to run /usr/bin/ccsm from tty halts at "Loading icons..."
[14:33] <clyfe> LeartS: And "Include ports.conf" in /etc/apache2.conf
[14:35] <Guest73887> i just installed kde desktop using sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , now i cant login
[14:36] <Guest73887> am i asking this in the wrong channel?
[14:36] <faqih_dan_kucing> Hei, Guest73887  no, you right :)
[14:37] <faqih_dan_kucing> em, you can enter the console mode ? ._.
[14:37] <en4> hmm, if i sudo service lightdm start and then login as guest, unity desktop works great. any way i can get those settings conf files to my home folder?
[14:37] <Guest73887> dont see an option for console
[14:38] <faqih_dan_kucing> ctrl + alt + f1 :)
[14:39] <Guest73887> im getting login incorrect
[14:40] <faqih_dan_kucing> loh ._.
[14:40] <Guest73887> tried username and sudo
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> Guest73887  ctrl alt F1, can you login there?
[14:41] <Guest73887> thats where im trying
[14:41] <LeartS> sorry clyfe the lsof command is not returning apache to me neither even thoug it works for me. Try this one: `netstat -t -l -n`
[14:42] <LeartS> You should see a line with the local address field ending in :80
[14:43] <clyfe> LeartS: https://gist.github.com/clyfe/e1580b28b37a79b8f96d
[14:43] <clyfe> LeartS: I asume "0 :::80" it's apache
[14:43] <Guest73887> i keep etting login incorrect
[14:44] <Guest73887> i know my password
[14:44] <cisconinja> sorry if this is a silly question , how to i tail two files at the same time i.e tail -f /var/log/auth.log && taol -f /var/log/fail2ban.log <--- will this work ?
[14:44] <LeartS> clyfe: yes
[14:44] <cisconinja> *tail
[14:44] <cisconinja> s/taol/tail/
[14:45] <Guest73887> sis there something else i should be using to login
[14:45] <LeartS> clyfe: so it is listening. Maybe it doesn't accept connections from <IP_ADDRESS>/localhost? How did you test the connection, <IP_ADDRESS> in thge browser?
[14:46] <bychance> i want to remap ctrl+alt+T to terminator frm gnome-terminal
[14:46] <clyfe> LeartS: I just typed it. I also tried telnet localhost 80
[14:46] <clyfe> LeartS: I'm thinking it's a permissions issue son /var/www
[14:47] <LeartS> uhm my /var/www is root:root and yet it works..
[14:48] <Guest73887> o if i never set a ubuntu password, is there a default
[14:48] <Guest73887> kubuntu i mean
[14:48] <en4> hi, running ubuntu 12.04LTS and have no desktop unless i login as a guest account. any ideas where i can start?
[14:48] <Joel> LIbreoffice is giving me "don't know how to handle video/quicktime" from impress when trying to play an embeded MOV. thoughts on what I'm missing?
[14:48] <LeartS> clyfe: did you check the error log?
[14:49] <clyfe> LeartS: tail /var/log/apache2/error.log is kind of empty
[14:49] <LeartS> /var/log/apache2/error.log and access.log
[14:50] <clyfe> LeartS: just start stop stuff
[14:50] <LeartS> and access?
[14:51] <clyfe> LeartS: access empty
[14:51] <clyfe>  /var/www$ ls -l /var/www/index.html
[14:51] <clyfe> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 177 Oct 17 18:52 /var/www/index.html
[14:51] <bychance> trying to remap ctrl+alt+T from gnome-terminal to terminator
[14:51] <clyfe> LeartS: wonder if permissions are ok on that file
[14:52] <LeartS> I have the same permissions omn the file and apache works form me
[14:53] <rypervenche> clyfe: I came in a little late. What command are you running to check to see if Apache is accepting reqeusts?
[14:53] <LeartS> access.log empty makes me wonder if apache did actually ever get the request, I think not
[14:53] <clyfe> rypervenche: telnet localhost 80
[14:53] <erriq> how i can start vidalia
[14:54] <clyfe> rypervenche: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[14:54] <clyfe> rypervenche: telnet: also trying in chrome
[14:54] <Guest73887> how can i find what login to use? ive tried everything
[14:54] <rypervenche> clyfe: From your netstat output it's only listening on localhost, and only on IPv6 for that matter.
[14:55] <erriq> someone help me
[14:55] <rypervenche> clyfe: what does "telnet ::1 80" give you?
[14:56] <clyfe> rypervenche: Connected to ::1
[14:56] <rypervenche> clyfe: Let's take this to a private message so we don't spam everyone.
[14:56] <bychance> trying to remap ctrl+alt+T from gnome-terminal to terminator help me
[14:57] <kev999> Can anyone help resolve an install problem with wkhtmltopdf
[14:57] <kev999> unable to connect to x server
[14:57] <kev999> http://fedir.github.io/web/blog/2013/09/25/install-wkhtmltopdf-on-ubuntu/
[14:58] <clue_h> bychance, maybe remove the old key map in settings>keyboard>shortcuts and create a custom one there
[14:58] <bychance> @clue_h tried does not work even tried remapping in dconf does not work
[15:02] <kev999> I'm getting xvfb-run: error: Xvfb failed to start
[15:03] <momo_> bjr
[15:04] <bychance> trying to remap ctrl+alt+T from gnome-terminal to terminator
[15:05] <momo_> do you speak french,
[15:05] <LeartS> kev999: I assume you are on a server without X?
[15:05] <llutz> !fr | momo_
[15:06] <LeartS> because if you aren't there is no need of doing all that, just install wkhtmltopdf and then call wkhtmltopdf <page> <output>
[15:06] <clyfe> LeartS: thanks for your help
[15:07] <streulma> hello, I have an Acer, is there a way to setup keyboard sensitivity in Ubuntu?
[15:07] <LeartS> clyfe: did you solve with rypervenche ?
[15:07] <kev999> LeartS yes - virtual server with shell access
[15:08] <clyfe> LeartS: yeah, it seems my apache only listens on ipv6
[15:08] <kev999> LeartS when I run just wkhtmltopdf I get wkhtmltopdf: cannot connect to X server
[15:09] <LeartS> kev999: try adding the "-e /dev/stdout " parameter to xvfb-run to see more debugging info
[15:09] <kev999> did that but to temp file and get : [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
[15:10] <kev999> don't know if that's a problem or info message
[15:10] <LeartS> yeah, I don't think it's a fatal problem that prevents it from starting neither..
[15:10] <kev999> and other similar messages
[15:11] <LeartS> if you wait a moment I'll try the instructions on my vps
[15:11] <kev999> https://github.com/mikehaertl/phpwkhtmltopdf   seems to indicate work arounds - but I don't fully understand
[15:11] <kev999> Thanks LeartS
[15:12] <kev999> FYI - installed both wkhtmltopdf and xvfb by 'apt-get install' on an ubuntu 12.04LTS
[15:13] <rypervenche> LeartS: Yeah, he's good now.
[15:15] <bychance> someone help me
[15:15] <LeartS> kev999: installed wkhtmltopdf and xvfb with apt on 13.10, command `xvfb-run --server-args="-screen 0, 1024x768x24" /usr/bin/wkhtmltopdf www.google.it out.pdf` worked
[15:16] <kev999> is that meant to make me feel better :-)
[15:17] <LeartS> kev999: did you also create the .sh in the instructions? have you tried my command (without the .sh thing for now)
[15:18] <kev999> I created the .sh and lined it - shall I get rid ?
[15:18] <kev999> linked it
[15:19] <LeartS> ig you linked it in /usr/share/local/bin no need, just try my command that uses the real executable in /usr/share/bin
[15:19] <LeartS> *if
[15:19] <LeartS> ops, /usr/bin the real one
[15:19] <kev999> it's catching - will do ...
[15:21] <kev999> LeartS - that worked - can you explain why ? happy, but confused
[15:22] <LeartS> kev999: I don't know, maybe you just made an error when creating the .sh file?
[15:23] <kev999> it's just one line of code: xvfb-run --server-args="-screen 0, 1024x768x24" /usr/bin/wkhtmltopdf $*
[15:24] <kev999> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root          72 Mar 23 14:39 wkhtmltopdf.sh
[15:26] <dupingping> hey guys
[15:26] <SwashBuckla> Hi there, I am having an issue with X displaying a black screen after I log in at the Ubuntu login prompt. I have tried deleting .Xauthority but it just generates a new one and black-screens again
[15:26] <dupingping> kev999: send it to pastebin.
[15:26] <dupingping> Hi guys
[15:26] <dupingping> just a question
[15:26] <kev999> hi
[15:26] <dupingping> kev999: hi
[15:27] <SwashBuckla> !ask | dupingping
[15:27] <bychance> Hi ping
[15:27] <dupingping> SwashBuckla: what?
[15:27] <kev999> dupingping - paste which bit, or the whole sequence / results
[15:27] <dupingping> bychance: Hi
[15:28] <dupingping> kev999: Oh, I see.
[15:28] <bychance> someone help me with binding ctrl+alt+T to teminal
[15:28] <dupingping> just a question.
[15:28] <bychance> *terminator
[15:28] <dupingping> I run ubuntu as root.
[15:28] <kev999> LeartS - are we done ?
[15:29] <LeartS> kev999: I tried creating the .sh file and linking it too, and it works for me
[15:29] <dupingping> But I can save preferences of ibus with root.
[15:30] <LeartS> wait a moment
[15:30] <dupingping> How can I save it?
[15:30] <dupingping> But I can't save preferences of ibus with root.
[15:30] <dupingping> How can I save it?
[15:30] <kev999> thanks - can't understand why that bit's not working
[15:31] <SwashBuckla> !ask | dupingping
[15:31] <dupingping> !quiet | SwashBuckla
[15:31] <dupingping> !scam | SwashBuckla
[15:31] <LeartS> kev999: what does ll /usr/local/bin/wkhtmltopdf gives?
[15:32] <LeartS> or ls -l if you do not have the ll alias
[15:32] <dupingping> SwashBuckla: why do you ...?
[15:33] <k1l> dupingping: stick to the guidelines in here, thanks
[15:33] <kev999> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Mar 23 14:37 /usr/local/bin/wkhtmltopdf -> /usr/bin/wkhtmltopdf.sh*
[15:34] <dupingping> I can't save preferences of ibus with root.
[15:34] <dupingping> please help me!
[15:34] <rypervenche> dupingping: And why are you running it as root?
[15:34] <k1l> dupingping: dont ever run xServer as root.
[15:34] <ogra_> dupingping, dont run graphical stuff as root
[15:35] <kev999> LeartS - are you thinking that wkhtmltopdf is not calling the script ?
[15:35] <dupingping> Ah,
[15:35] <dupingping> everybody:
[15:36] <dupingping> Now I am developing some software.
[15:36] <LeartS> kev999: I honestly don't know: the fact that for you my command works and the script doesn't doesn't make sense.
[15:36] <dupingping> And It is easy that develop with root user.
[15:36] <SwashBuckla> Regarding the question I asked earlier about X starting with a black screen -- you know what was wrong? I was playing with xmonad defaultConfig! Sorry about that, X is actually working just fine
[15:36] <dupingping> But
[15:36] <k1l> dupingping: no.
[15:37] <dupingping> k1l: why no?
[15:37] <ogra_> dont do that
[15:37] <ogra_> develop as a user
[15:37] <llutz> dupingping: stupid it is, not easy. work as user, only use sudo/root if really needed or don#t ask for help here
[15:37] <ogra_> use sudo if you need to copy something into some system place
[15:38] <kev999> LeartS - now this bit IS beyond me - how do I know if wkhtml2pdf is calling the shell script ? or how can I prove it?
[15:38] <LeartS> kev999: `which wkhtmltopdf`
[15:38] <heyla> Hi, i have ubunu desktop installed , will dhcp server work on it or i have to install ubuntu server ???
[15:39] <llutz> heyla: it would work
[15:39] <kev999> LeartS - the o/p from that is: /usr/local/bin/wkhtmltopdf     ...   does that mean it's not linked?
[15:39] <LeartS> heyla: ubuntu desktop can do everything that ubuntu server can
[15:41] <LeartS> no, it's correct, if oyu combine that with the output of `ll /usr/local/bin/wkhtmltopdf` you'll see that it is the script getting called
[15:41] <ice9> how to install kernel module from file using modprob?
[15:42] <llutz> ice9: local file? sudo insmod foo.ko
[15:42] <ice9> thanks llutz
[15:43] <LeartS> kev999: My onle 3 remaining options are: 1) if you try calling wkhtmltopdf now it works (did you try?) 2) the script is wrong (`cat /usr/bin/wkhtmltopdf.sh`) - 3) it's a problem related to what shell is invoked for the script
[15:44] <kev999> LeartS - many thanks for your help - I'm going to go away and try a few things. You have hopefully given me enough to resolve. You online for much longer?
[15:45] <LeartS> I don't know.. probably yes, some hours
[15:45] <TheOtherGuy> If I wanted to figure out how to run a server and I couldn't find a book called "Servers for Dummies", where should I start?
[15:45] <kev999> Great stuff - hopefully I'll report back some good news
[15:46] <LeartS> TheOtherGuy: the internet
[15:46] <llutz> TheOtherGuy: a server for what?
[15:46] <TheOtherGuy> Keywords, anything? It's hard seeing who the authority is when I'm completely new
[15:47] <rypervenche> TheOtherGuy: The word "server" is very ambiguous here. What would you like to do with said server?
[15:47] <LeartS> Well, what kind of server do you want to run? what do you want to do with it? every pc connected to the internet can be considered a server..
[15:48] <TheOtherGuy> I have digital ocean but I'm basically handicapped to whatever tutorials they have
[15:48] <TheOtherGuy> I want to store things, run a VPN, host a spider
[15:48] <LeartS> oh, digital oceans vps are cool, I have one too.
[15:49] <llutz> TheOtherGuy: google "openvpn server ubuntu" and read the documentation
[15:49] <jrib> TheOtherGuy: read official distro docs, official software docs, and your vps provider docs.  When they disagree, figure out why.
[15:49] <TheOtherGuy> OpenVPN documentation is blocked in China
[15:49] <jrib> TheOtherGuy: well, use your vps...
[15:50] <llutz> TheOtherGuy: learn to use ssh-tunnels, if you already have a vps
[15:50] <TheOtherGuy> Which I'm trying to set up... but...
[15:50] <jrib> TheOtherGuy: ssh -D 1080 vps; then setup firefox with a socks proxy to that port
[15:50] <LeartS> TheOtherGuy: first of all: do you know how to connect to your vps?!
[15:50] <TheOtherGuy> I can connect through Putty
[15:51] <LeartS> well, first of all ditch putty, you are on Ubuntu and you don't need that. You have to start accustoming yourself to the command line if you want to use a vps
[15:51] <llutz> TheOtherGuy: http://www.adamfowlerit.com/2013/01/05/using-firefox-with-a-putty-ssh-tunnel-as-a-socks-proxy/
[15:52] <jrib> TheOtherGuy: what OS are you connecting from?
[15:52] <ogra_> TheOtherGuy, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html
[15:52] <TheOtherGuy> W7
[15:52] <llutz> TheOtherGuy: once you got that working, you can read the internet. and that is, what you'll have to do: look for a service you want to run and read the documentation
[15:53] <TheOtherGuy> llutz: still trying to set up the VPN...
[15:53] <TheOtherGuy> I have connected, didn't set up the VPN.
[15:53] <LeartS> Oh, I assumed you were on Ubuntu. Sorry
[15:54] <TheOtherGuy> I have no idea how to use it, I'm trying to figure out where to start.
[15:54] <llutz> TheOtherGuy: the link i gave you, shows you to openthe way to openvpn-documentation. go for it
[15:57] <momo_> do you speak fr
[15:57] <llutz> !fr | momo_
[15:57] <momo_> jvou bz
[15:57] <momo_> lov
[15:57] <prainworker> hey someone can help me with my wacom tablet
[15:58] <prainworker> i did read there there is a new ppa out that support the new models with touch funktion
[15:58] <prainworker> i have my on sitting for some weeks allready would be burning to try it out
[16:00] <katana-> which are the best computers to run ubuntu on?
[16:01] <ikonia> katana-: any with hardware that has good linux support
[16:01] <clue_h> most of them, or system76 models
[16:02] <Pinkamena_D> my computer continues to freeze at resume from suspend. How can I view a log of what happened after I resumed before I hard shutoff the computer?
[16:02] <katana-> ikonia that's what im asking
[16:03] <llutz> !hardware | katana-
[16:03] <Walex> Pinkamena_D: you configure all your applications and the log service to do that.
[16:04] <Pinkamena_D> if you have a moment, could you expand on that a bit?
[16:04] <ikonia> katana-: what is what you are asking ?
[16:04] <Lihis> Pinkamena_D: I guess /var/log/pm-suspend.log,. Am I right?
[16:04] <Pinkamena_D> does the log service have a name which I could man/google to get further help?
[16:04] <Walex> Pinkamena_D: that's difficult, because you decide which applications and services you run, and could ve hundreds.
[16:04] <katana-> !ops
[16:05] <katana-> ikonia is trolling
[16:05] <katana-> and being rude to me
[16:05] <ikonia> what ?
[16:05] <prainworker> can some help me with that please
[16:05] <prainworker> http://askubuntu.com/questions/378087/wacom-tablet-intuos-cth480s-dont-work
[16:05] <IdleOne> katana-: no he isn't. please ask a more specific ubuntu question.
[16:05] <katana-> why are you defending him
[16:05] <k1l> katana-: dont do that. he was asking to make a more specific question. we dont know what the "best" is, since its depends on your needs
[16:05] <Walex> Pinkamena_D: logging is not "automatic" in the sense that everything gets logged and then you need to find where.  Those have been the only ones I manually started up when this error is happening.
[16:06] <katana-> yes he is
[16:06] <Walex> Pinkamena_D: I doubt that very much. Those applications rely on many, many others to work at all.
[16:07] <IdleOne> katana-: Alright let us move on.
[16:07] <Pinkamena_D> I see what you mean.
[16:07] <Walex> Pinkamena_D: note that you have't asked how to diagnose why your suspend fails. You have asked how to look at the logs of what happened between resume and crash.
[16:08] <lenzeor> Hey there. I have a .wv and a .cue file and I want to split it up into mp3s. What's a good (preferably GUI) program for that?
[16:08] <Pinkamena_D> the real issue, (because finding the logs seems to be more complicated then I at first imagined) is an IBM docking station. When the laptop is run without ever using the dock, it works fine, using the dock, seems to generate the resume freeze. Do any of you know what process would be assiocated with this?
[16:09] <Pinkamena_D> I suppose if I knew which process that was I could indeed enable the log as you suggest.
[16:09] <Walex> Pinkamena_D: most logs as someone else said are under '/var/log'; if you want to expand the amount of logging that's a manual operation.
[16:09] <Walex> Pinkamena_D: but those under '/var/log' are only the logs for the applications that by default enabled logs, and the default level.
[16:09] <llutz> lenzeor: if you find no gui, shntools/cuetools
[16:09] <lenzeor> Ok, can you walk me trough that?
[16:10] <lenzeor> I got some errors when working with shntools
[16:10] <prainworker> walex could you help me for a sek
[16:10] <prainworker> please
[16:10] <llutz> lenzeor: cuebreakpoints foo.cue | shnsplit -o flac foo.wv
[16:11] <llutz> !info wavpack
[16:11] <Walex> Pinkamena_D: but given your description of the situation it is rather likely that the driver of one of the devices in the dock is buggy during suspend-resume and that has nothing to do with applications or services running at the time.
[16:11] <katana-> which are the best computers to run ubuntu on?
[16:11] <llutz> lenzeor: needs wavpack being installed, i guess
[16:11] <ogra_> katana-, you really need to ask a bit more specific
[16:12] <katana-> i want it to be stable
[16:12] <crahan_> Hi, are there settings anywhere to suppress the 'networks available' or 'disconnected from network' messages on the lightdm login screen?
[16:12] <Pinkamena_D> I am really sorry to take up your time, but would you recommend I continue this by posting on ubuntuforums or Is there some immediate driver troubleshooting you can think of that I could do?
[16:12] <ogra_> katana-, then get something with ubuntu preinstalled ... like one from system76 or a dell XPS13 or some such
[16:12] <jpds> katana-: Pick any major brand and make sure the components are all from Intel.
[16:12] <lennart_> katana: are you looking for laptops, desktops, servers...?
[16:12] <crahan_> I know you can use dconf to disable those messages as a user, but I can't find any settings to disable this at the lightdm login screen
[16:13] <katana-> laptop or desktop
[16:13] <Walex> Pinkamena_D: if you are a kernel developer you know how to do driver troubleshooting...
[16:13] <jpds> katana-: Lenovo Thinkpad.
[16:13] <katana-> I got a dell preinstalled with ubuntu 5 years ago and it freezes when you try to change brigtness
[16:13] <Pinkamena_D> heh
[16:13] <jpds> katana-: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[16:13] <clue_h> jpds, is that foolproof, making sure it's all intel? i just hope for the best
[16:13] <lenzeor> llutz "cannot open non-existent file [*.flac]"
[16:13] <jpds> clue_h: Most of the Intel stuff has open-source drivers.
[16:13] <Walex> Pinkamena_D: do you seriously expect to be able to fix that situation?
[16:13] <katana-> thanks jpds
[16:13] <k1l> !hcl
[16:14] <llutz> lenzeor: typo?
[16:14] <yellabs> why are there no other languages for ubuntu tour ? http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/
[16:14] <lenzeor> ah sry
[16:14] <lenzeor> got it slip up
[16:14] <jpds> yellabs: Some local communities translated it on their own websites.
[16:14] <prainworker> please need some help installing my wacom tablet !!!
[16:14] <llutz> lenzeor: after this you'll have a bunch of flac-files to work with
[16:14] <mikehaas763> How can I upgrade my ubuntu 12.10 server if running do-release-upgrade says the command cannot be found?
[16:14] <Pinkamena_D> I suppose not
[16:14] <yellabs> could not find nl - dutch version
[16:14] <lenzeor> How do I convert .wv to mp3/or flac now? llutz
[16:14] <ogra_> mikehaas763, install update.manager-core
[16:14] <ogra_> err
[16:15] <ogra_> update-manager-core
[16:15] <yellabs> translation is read ( pushed the last 17 strings
[16:15] <yellabs> ready
[16:15] <mikehaas763> Perfect, thank you
[16:15] <inq_> I cant copy and paste from this stupid terminal
[16:16] <llutz> lenzeor: "cuetag.sh foo.cue split-*.flac"   then the single flac-files get tagged.
[16:16] <yellabs> cant build my own version , due to some python bug
[16:16] <inq_> 'Aterminal' im using
[16:16] <inq_> I cant drag and drop I cant right click it
[16:16] <inq_> WTF!
[16:16] <llutz> lenzeor: why mp3 in times hdd cost nothing, flac is the better choice (imo)
[16:16] <inq_> Fuck Linux
[16:17] <ogra_> isnt aTerminal an OSX app anyway ?
[16:17] <Pinkamena_D> inq, you just ctrl+shift c or v to copy and paste from terminal
[16:17] <lenzeor> Yeah, I'll just leave them as a .flac. My iPod/Windows-friends just constantly complain when I share music with them because they cannot deal with flac.
[16:17] <Pinkamena_D> as opposed to just crtl without the shift
[16:17] <prainworker> pikamena can you help me for a sek please
[16:18] <kev999> LeartS - are you still there ?
[16:18] <Pinkamena_D> hmm?
[16:18] <llutz> lenzeor: shnsplit can't produce mp3 directly afaik, you might use lame to convert flac->mp3 later
[16:18] <Guest63967> hey guys, seem to be having problems dual-booting Win7 and Ubuntu on a new build with UEFI. I installed Ubuntu alongside Win7, and then I couldn't boot into Win7 using the boot menu.
[16:19] <lenzeor> shnsplit cannot even produce flac for me atm but thanks I got it now :) llutz
[16:19] <Guest63967> Used boot-repair and now there's 2 entries for Win7 at boot
[16:19] <prainworker> i am  know 20 min in this channel and not 1 person did ask me even what kind of problem i have!
[16:19] <prainworker> really nice
[16:19] <clue_h> prainworker, what problem do you have?
[16:19] <llutz> lenzeor: needs flac/libflac being installed
[16:19] <lenzeor> prainworker: what kind of prblem do you have?
[16:19] <hvn2> hi, running 12.04, after a kernel installation the boot ends with "alert /dev/diskby-uuid does not exist". I found several solutions for it, like adding rootdelay=, but this doesnt work. Any clue how this can be fixed ? (I can boot back into the old kernel.)
[16:20] <kev999> anyone know how to find the order of executable paths on an Ubuntu server
[16:20] <Walex> Pinkamena_D: ah you are being realistic :-). Suspend/resume relies on both devices and drivers not being buggy while doing some very subtle state saving and restoring. It is inherently risky.
[16:20] <Pinkamena_D> I notice that when some people get into a heated conversation, yuo may have to repeat your question a few times. I don't mean spamming, but maybe once every 10 minutes is no one at all replies.
[16:20] <prainworker> i am new to linux and i would like to get my wacom tablet runnig if possible
[16:20] <Walex> hvn2: which kernel did you install?
[16:20] <prainworker> i found allready informations about  it but i dont know how to work it of
[16:21] <hvn2> Walex: custom kernel 3.10.18
[16:21] <Walex> prainworker: the Linux philosophy is either to buy supported hardware or to write your own driver for unsupported hardware... :-)
[16:21] <hvn2> Walex: installed it using dpkg
[16:21] <Pinkamena_D> the only drivers I have ever had to install in linux was once a video card driver. Usually every other device I used just worked.
[16:21] <prainworker> walex there is a pkg called  input-wacom-0.20.0 thats all i need
[16:22] <ogra_> prainworker, what doesnt work exactly ? (there is even a gui tool shipped to configure your tablet in ubuntu)
[16:22] <clue_h> i see it in settings
[16:22] <ogra_> right
[16:23] <Walex> hvn2: if you compile custom kernels, you are a very advanced system developer and you know how to sort out the Ubuntu specific aspects of your kernel build...
[16:24] <katana-> prainworker, why don't you try to install input-wacom with apt-get or synaptics
[16:24] <arcimboldo> Hi all, since a few days, my Ubuntu saucy cannot *see* any usb disk anymore. They don't show up even in lsblk or lsusb.
[16:24] <Walex> prainworker: there is something resembling that in the 'lts-saucy' backports of the X Window packages.
[16:24] <hvn2> Walex: i did build custom kernel (same one) for arm, which went fine. But for Ubuntu x86 it's the first time
[16:25] <k1l> prainworker: which ubuntu are you running exactly?
[16:25] <angelo_> hola
[16:25] <prainworker> 12.04 lts
[16:26] <k1l> prainworker: install xserver-xorg-input-wacom-lts-saucy
[16:26] <k1l> with apt-get install or the softwarecenter
[16:27] <hvn2> Walex: actually not the first time...first custom kernel on 12.04 was 3.5.7...had no problem with that one.
[16:28] <angelo_> !list
[16:29] <jaapio> I got a problem with some images that are shown pink and green, I thought it would be a driver issue but I can't find any solution
[16:29] <Pinkamena_D> how can I pipe stdout to clipboard?
[16:29] <prainworker> k1l  i am in software center and its installed
[16:30] <ogra_> Pinkamena_D, not sure sthere is a way, but you can use pastebinit to pipe it to a pastebin
[16:30] <jaapio> Pinkamena_D:  echo "sometext" | xclip -sel clip -i
[16:30] <ogra_> ah
[16:30] <ogra_> :)
[16:30] <Pinkamena_D> awesome
[16:30] <clue_h> handy
[16:31] <airia> hello ubuntu folks
[16:31] <airia> how is mir going for you guys?
[16:31] <ogra_> arietis, awesome :)
[16:32] <ogra_> (but i use it on tablets and phones)
[16:32] <airia> what you use for your machine orgra_
[16:33] <ogra_> arietis, nexus 4 and nexus 7 (2013 model)
[16:33] <arietis> ogra_: wrong nickname
[16:33] <airia> all good i figured you had meant me
[16:33] <ogra_> arietis, oops, sorry :)
[16:34] <airia> it's been a while since i had unbuntu installed so had been curious how mir was progressing
[16:34] <ogra_> well, Mir is not included in the desktop installs yet
[16:35] <ogra_> that will happen earliest in 14.10 ... (more likely 15.04) for the first time
[16:35] <airia> yea wayland isnt default for us yet either
[16:35] <LeartS> !help
[16:35] <is-mw> hi I have a problem with ubuntu 13.10 on my dell inspiron notebook with broadcom wlan adapter. I cant get my wlan to work. the wlan light in front of my laptop is not glowing but I have no idea how to switch it on. I already tried to deinstall the bcmwl kernel source and installed b43-fwcutter + firmware but nothing changed
[16:36] <ogra_> is-mw, have you tried Fn+F2 ?
[16:38] <is-mw> ogra_, yes but then only bluetooth gets actived / deactivated
[16:39] <airia> is-mw does the device show up on ifconfig?
[16:39] <is-mw> airia, no it doesnt.. only lo and eth0 (cable)
[16:39] <airia> sounds like a driver isnt resolved
[16:40] <airia> **possible**
[16:40] <jaapio> I just found something is wrong with my account settings. Some pictures are shown pink instead of green, Anyone knows where to look?
[16:40] <airia> hold on I'm gonna pull up a thread from the arch forums that was similar for you is-mw
[16:41] <is-mw> airia, orga_ wait, after I did some changes there is a lxcbr0 device
[16:42] <ogra_> that sounds like you are using an lxc container
[16:43] <is-mw> orga_ I have docker installed.. that may be the cause
[16:43] <jr_> Hey all. I am trying to run a script from if [[ -z "$version" ]]; then
[16:43] <jr_> echo "Please define version before calling `basename $0` or use a wrapper like opencv_latest.sh"
[16:43] <jr_>         exit 1
[16:43] <jr_> fi
[16:43] <jr_> if [[ -z "$downloadfile" ]]; then
[16:43] <jr_> echo "Please define downloadfile before calling `basename $0` or use a wrapper like opencv_latest.sh"
[16:43] <unopaste> jr_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:44] <jr_> unzip $downloadfile
[16:44] <jr_> else
[16:44] <jr_> tar -xvf $downloadfile
[16:44] <jr_> fi
[16:44] <jr_> cd opencv-$version
[16:44] <jr_> mkdir build
[16:44] <jr_> cd build
[16:45] <jr_> cmake -D CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=RELEASE -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local -D WITH_TBB=ON -D BUILD_NEW_PYTHON_SUPPORT=ON -D WITH_V4L=ON -D INSTALL_C_EXAMPLES=ON -D INSTALL_PYTHON_EXAMPLES=ON -D BUILD_EXAMPLES=ON -D WITH_QT=ON -D WITH_OPENGL=ON ..
[16:45] <jr_> make -j 4
[16:45] <jr_> sudo make install
[16:45] <jr_> sudo sh -c 'echo "/usr/local/lib" > /etc/ld.so.conf.d/opencv.conf'
[16:45] <jr_> sudo ldconfig
[16:45] <jr_> fuck
[16:45] <cfhowlett> jr_, STOP!!!
[16:45] <bluenemo> hi guys. i want to get a tablet, kind of like the nexus 10 and install ubuntu on it. is there an extra chanel for that?
[16:45] <cfhowlett> paste
[16:45] <jr_> sorry guys
[16:45] <ogra_> is-mw, right ... well if the lwan led is not on you need to find the hardware switch that enables it (Fn+F2 was just a guess, probably it is a different combo on your model)
[16:45] <cfhowlett> !paste
[16:45] <ogra_> *wlan
[16:45] <airia> is-mw is it able to connect now?
[16:45] <cfhowlett> !touch|bluenemo,
[16:45] <is-mw> orga_ no fn + f2 is correct ( it works under windows)
[16:46] <clouder> how do I get skype to launch from the launcher or search? if I type skype in console it works fine, but not through gui
[16:46] <prainworker> ogra
[16:46] <ki7rw> heh, i had to remove the fglrx stuff to get my ati radeon to work
[16:46] <solsTiCe> hi. When my laptop wake up from sleep, the laptop screen is visible and not hidden while the other one (the lcd monitor) shows the login dialog. isn't that a bug that the whole is visible ? even if I can't do anything in it with the mouse.
[16:46] <is-mw> orga_ if I hit that combi, the flight mode gets enabled and disabled
[16:47] <ogra_> is-mw, try: rfkill unblock all
[16:47] <ogra_> see if that changes anything
[16:47] <ogra_> (or rfkill list all, to seee if wlan is even blocked)
[16:48] <is-mw> orga_ seems rfkill only lists my bluetooth devise
[16:48] <is-mw> device
[16:49] <prainworker> ogra i am now in the the directory from the new wacom file can you help me with the ./configure its not working like explaint in the document
[16:50] <ogra_> prainworker, why are you running a ./configure at all, did you not follow what k1l said ?
[16:50] <prainworker> yes i was in sofware center and the pkg was installed
[16:51] <ogra_> prainworker, install the xserver-xorg-input-wacom-lts-saucy package, there is nothing you need to compile
[16:51] <ads_> hi
[16:52] <ads_> hi
[16:52] <ogra_> prainworker, so that is the 0.20.0 version of the wacom driver ... there should be nothing for you to do but plug in the tablet and configure it in the system settings
[16:53] <prainworker> ogra
[16:53] <is-mw> orga, airia: if i run software-properties-gtk and switch to the additional drivers tab, I can see sth like: source code for broadcom 802.11-linux-sta-wireless driver from bcmwl-kernel-source ( I had to translate it from german so not sure if it is word by word)
[16:53] <prainworker> ok than can you please tell me how to list the  loaded wacom modules
[16:54] <valera5505> Hello
[16:54] <ogra_> prainworker, it should be shown somewhere in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:54] <airia> hello valera
[16:54] <bekks> prainworker: lsmod
[16:55] <valera5505> What wrong with this shadow? http://i.imgur.com/EHQX8ar.png
[16:55] <airia> you could try compiling it and building it is-mw if it is for the card you are using
[16:55] <prainworker> ok they are not there i need 2 modules how are called w8000 w8100 and than it works i hat the same thing on my mint distro some weeks ago and it crashed so i went to ubuntu
[16:56] <bekks> valera5505: Is there something wrong?
[16:57] <valera5505> Yes, edges looks cut
[16:57] <SunilJoshi> Hello, how can i increase the boot speed of Ubuntu 13.10 its really slow ..
[16:57] <sudormrf> hey guys.  I am trying to mount a network share at startup not as root.  can someone help me out?
[16:57] <LeartS> Buy an SSD
[16:57] <airia> e4rat suniljoshi
[16:57] <sudormrf> LeartS: LOL.
[16:57] <cfhowlett> SunilJoshi, define "really slow"
[16:57] <ogra_> prainworker, so you did a completely new install of the OS to get your tablet to work ?
[16:57] <LeartS> no, seriously: the difference is amazing
[16:57] <sudormrf> oops
[16:57] <bekks> sudormrf: depending on the filesystem, specify the user it should be mounted as.
[16:58] <sudormrf> So yeah.  I am trying to mount a network share at startup, but not as root.  I have an fstab entry for it right now, but the permissions on the directory says root:users
[16:58] <SunilJoshi> cfhowlett: it takes more than 2 minutes to come to login screen
[16:58] <airia> suniljoshi e4rat is a great tool it preloads files so the boot is faster
[16:58] <sudormrf> I think I need to chown the dir
[16:58] <sudormrf> bekks: cifs
[16:58] <LeartS> I went from 40 seconds to basically 5
[16:58] <cfhowlett> SunilJoshi, are you running encryption?
[16:58] <LeartS> SSDs are amazing
[16:58] <bekks> sudormrf: Which is wrong then. You have to specify the mount option to mount it as the user desired.
[16:58] <ogra_> prainworker, if you did, why did you not use a newer ubuntu then, 12.04 is 2 years old ... i am very sure that 14.04 will work out of the box with that tablet
[16:59] <SunilJoshi> cfhowlett: not sure, how can i check this? IIRC, i have never enabled it
[16:59] <prainworker> ok no problem
[16:59] <cfhowlett> !encryption
[16:59] <bekks> sudormrf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[16:59] <sudormrf> bekks: I am trying to use a program that needs access to this and it doesn’t have permissions.  If I try to write a file to the directory I can’t unless I am su
[16:59] <prainworker> i will use 14.04 i only went to this version to be sure to get some help
[16:59] <prainworker> but ok no problem i have ubuntu installed in 8 min
[16:59] <is-mw> airia, orga_  two or three things I have to mention: While installing ubuntu 13.10 first my wlan has the same status like now: it is not working and I dont see any Access points in the list - but after stepping though the first 2 or 3 installation steps, suddenly my wlan is working.. after installing ubuntu my wlan *was* working but the I destroyed my bootsector (grub) and run a repair installation of ubuntu.. that caused the problem with my wlan
[16:59] <bekks> sudormrf: you need to mount it as the user desired. Please read the article provided.
[17:00] <prainworker> would be done allready long time i
[17:00] <sudormrf> bekks: checking.  will come back with questions if I have them :).
[17:00] <is-mw> airia, orga_ here is my lsmod, maybe you can see something strange there: http://pastebin.com/8t7LxpAZ
[17:00] <SunilJoshi> cfhowlett: i have never done this
[17:00] <Umbrage> Hi!  I have a 2012 System 76 "Performance Pangolin" laptop running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, I went to bed the other night with it working fine, put it to sleep by shutting the lid, next day the screen doesn't appear to work (after standard put into case and backpack, drive to work).  Made sounds like running, seemed to change as normal when I typed in my password, but I couldn't see anything on screen.  Forced shut down, now doesn't seem to boo
[17:00] <cfhowlett> SunilJoshi, OK - so it's no encryption
[17:00] <bekks> !512 | Umbrage
[17:01] <SunilJoshi> i am on dual boot i.e. Windows 7 and Ubuntu 13.10 (initially i have installed ubuntu using wubi)
[17:01] <bekks> Umbrage: you post was cut off at "seem to boot". Can you pleas shorten it up?
[17:01] <LeartS> Guys can someone please highlight or query me in a minute? I'm testing a plugin for weechat
[17:01] <Umbrage> Nothing else, just "Any ideas?"
[17:01] <Umbrage> Sorry, trying to get all the standard questions out in one post
[17:02] <airia> suniljoshi i can say one more time to look into e4rat... but even though it would help you im not gonna keep trying to suggest it
[17:02] <cfhowlett> SunilJoshi, this ^^^
[17:02] <bekks> Umbrage: Then define "doesnt seem to boot" please. Does it boot but you dont believe it? Does it not boot, and you can see that? Does it boot but you cant see it?
[17:02] <bekks> !details | Umbrage
[17:02] <SunilJoshi> airia: thanks for your suggestion! i have started reading about it :) !
[17:03] <solsTiCe> LeartS: there was a bot in #test some time ago for that
[17:03] <sudormrf> bekks: looks like that sorted it.  was just missing uid
[17:03] <sudormrf> thanks :)
[17:03] <Umbrage> Power on, the blue power light comes on, the yelllow "no wifi" light comes on, no other lights on, no sound of spinning drives.  Perhaps "seems to" was imprecise
[17:03] <Umbrage> it doesn't boot
[17:03] <bekks> Umbrage: Did you power it off completely, including pulling the cable?
[17:04] <Umbrage> yes
[17:04] <Umbrage> and removing battery
[17:04] <bekks> Umbrage: Looks like you have a hardware issue then, no ubuntu issue.
[17:04] <Umbrage> yes
[17:04] <Umbrage> possible
[17:04] <Umbrage> sorry
[17:06] <LeartS> solsTiCe: oh, double thanks (suggestion + highlight :D)
[17:07] <daveid> hi, uhm
[17:07] <sudormrf> bekks: does a www user need to be created for apache?
[17:07] <bekks> sudormrf: No. You just have to install apache.
[17:08] <sudormrf> bekks: hmm. ok.
[17:10] <daveid> i got laptop, no cd, no harddrive, trying to boot ubuntu from usb, however, ubuntu live cannot store files running live cd, right? (what distro is small enough to fit usb drive and still can store files? (got terminal working however, cannot run desktop)
[17:10] <cfhowlett> !persistence|daveid,
[17:11] <Sepix> wtb 32gb nano sized thumbdrive
[17:11] <ki7rw> actually, my video problem was an "out of range" message on my monitor after downloading and installing the proprietary drivers - there's probably a way to fix it by editing a file but i chose the easier path
[17:12] <onado> Can you please tell me the difference between the two commands "dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcpd/dhcpd.pid at0" and " dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf at0 " ??
[17:12] <sudormrf> bekks: looks like I sorted my problem out :).  thanks again!
[17:12] <abaday> how do I exclude /mnt when wanting to make backup of / with rsync?
[17:13] <bekks> abaday: rsync has a --exclude option.
[17:13] <abaday> bekks: thanks
[17:13] <interweb> Hello , when I run wireshark , It says there is no interface . Should I run it under root ?
[17:14] <bekks> interweb: You cannot capture traffic as user.
[17:14] <is-mw> orga_ just found another blog entry how to get b43 module working.. it tells me I can run modproble wl but I get an error : module wl not found? may that be the cause?
[17:14] <interweb> bekks, So I should use this command ? sudo wireshark ?
[17:14] <SchrodingersScat> !gksudo | interweb
[17:15] <bekks> interweb: No. gksu wireshark
[17:15] <bekks> or gksudo - but not sudo.
[17:15] <interweb> bekks, thanks
[17:16] <abaday> bekks: what options would u chose to make a complete copy of / ?
[17:17] <bekks> !backup | abaday
[17:17] <Walex> abaday: -axHO --del -i
[17:21] <Sepix> suniljoshi: e4rat more what you are looking for?
[17:21] <itwasme> i posted a question about two commands a minut ago but i got disconnected , any answers ??
[17:22] <bekks> itwasme: Can you post it again please?
[17:24] <SchrodingersScat> itwasme: or the name you used before
[17:25] <Tollo> ciao
[17:25] <itwasme> whats the diffrence between "dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcpd/dhcpd.pid at0" and     "dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf at0"
[17:25] <chillibite> how can i tell if i've been hacked? all the files and folders on my desktop dissapeared, which is really upsetting because some of the files are my house plans (.dwg) and photos of my child! is there anyway to recover the files. what could have caused this?
[17:25] <bekks> itwasme: the first defines a pid file, the second doesnt.
[17:26] <chillibite> this cannot possibly be a bug can it/
[17:26] <chillibite> ?
[17:26] <Sepix> chillibite : for starters you can probably rule out being hacked :)
[17:26] <bekks> chillibite: What did you do besides suspecting you've got hacked?
[17:26] <itwasme>  <bekks> and what is the pid file if you may
[17:27] <chillibite> bekks: nothing except running some emacs lisp code (it was just for editing text files and not on my desktop)
[17:27] <bekks> itwasme: a file containg the process id of the running process.
[17:28] <Sepix> they are not in your desktop folder in you file manager by chance and just not showing up are they?  are any other files mising from various home folders?
[17:29] <chillibite> Sepix: files are missing from the Downloads folder and Desktop - not showing up ls -a in the shell or in the file manager
[17:29] <A1Recon> http://imgur.com/xljSo9A My Laptop is showing an additional "Unknown Display" .... why? Is it because of the NVIDIA GPU that my laptop has?
[17:30] <chillibite> ALL folders and files in Downloads and Desktop, it's only Desktop that's bothering me, in downloads it was just textbooks that i've already printed
[17:30] <loonix103> im trying to boot ubuntu from a usb using unetbootin. I've got unetbootin downloaded on the usb im kind of lost as to what to do next.
[17:30] <chillibite> this is so bizarre, i'm sure someone hacked me and deleted my files
[17:30] <daftykins> A1Recon: probably. it's not doing any harm though right?
[17:31] <Sepix> chillibite and you are of course in the correct username etc i will assume.  not in a trash folder ? (these would all make it easy)
[17:31] <loonix103> the computer im trying to run it on is a windows xp
[17:31] <Sepix> chillibite those were 2 seperate questions
[17:31] <cfhowlett> loonix103, you need to INSTALL unetbootin on your computer, then use to copy the ISO to your USB and make it bootable
[17:32] <cfhowlett> chillibite, highly unlikely
[17:32] <loonix103> ok let me check the usb and see if i have an ISO on it
[17:32] <Sepix> not intended to sound rude chillibite --them being removed just sounds highly unlikely to be a bug even for ubuntu
[17:32] <chillibite> nothing in trash, and i am logged in
[17:33] <cfhowlett> loonix103, download the ubuntu iso from ubuntu.com
[17:33] <A1Recon> Hey daftykins!! Well its not showing any problem...because I disabled it. But during the login screen ....my mouse can go way to the right... And I am like "where did this go??"
[17:33] <chillibite> with my user - the only user
[17:33] <daftykins> A1Recon: haha
[17:33] <daftykins> A1Recon: /var/log/Xorg.0.log could show some hints
[17:34] <Janusz> Hello
[17:34] <loonix103> ok
[17:34] <Sepix> hello janusz
[17:34] <chillibite> jesus - i might have messed up one of my shell or elisp scripts and done something unintentional
[17:35] <Janusz> Will the be celebration for release of 14.04?
[17:35] <ki7rw> what a difference speedtest servers and test arrangements make
[17:35] <ki7rw> anyway, here's the allo results: Download Speed: 64931 kbps (8116.4 KB/sec transfer rate) - Upload Speed: 62367 kbps (7795.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
[17:35] <ki7rw> of course, my tests are thru a 11n router so there's some loss
[17:35] <cfhowlett> !trusty|Janusz,
[17:36] <daftykins> Janusz: yep but line up early 'cause the cake goes fast
[17:36] <Janusz> No problem. I'll set my own event :)
[17:36] <Sepix> wow hard to believe i start using ubuntu at 6.04 ...  hadnt known then it was only 2 years old
[17:37] <chillibite> well thanks anyway but i still have no idea what happened here
[17:38] <loonix103> does unetbootin not download an ISO though?
[17:38] <Sepix> no
[17:38] <abaday> theres no need to backup /dev and /proc, right
[17:38] <Sepix> unetbootin should only allow you to mount an iso on a thumb drive
[17:38] <OerHeks> loonix103, it can, but t can also use a local iso
[17:38] <arcimboldo_> hi all, my ubuntu saucy suddendly stopped seeing any usb drive I put in it. Nothing in dmesg, nor in lsusb or lsblk.
[17:39] <loonix103> i think i did cause my usb has a folder called isolinux
[17:40] <Sepix> isnt that just a boot loader?
[17:40] <cfhowlett> loonix103, if it doesn't say UBUNTU then it's not an ubuntu ISO...
[17:40] <daftykins> arcimboldo_: laptop?
[17:40] <loonix103> ok
[17:41] <Sepix> cfhowlett: help mine says archlinux o_O what do i do?
[17:41] <Sepix> :)
[17:41] <cfhowlett> Sepix, not following your thread - state your intentions
[17:41] <daftykins> that's a bad Sepix
[17:43] <FapFlop> Hey guys. I'm having an issue with a drive not mounting before other programs that depend on it loading. I've put an entry in fstab to automount, but apparently that's not enough.
[17:44] <nicey> Hi can i run another ubuntu os using virualbox ?? with only 512 of ram ??
[17:44] <Sepix> nicey I dont see why not
[17:44] <daftykins> 512MB isn't even enough to run a good host OS
[17:44] <cfhowlett> nicey, nope.
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: its the min requirement :-)
[17:44] <daftykins> it'll swap like a fiend
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Nicey: i'd use LXDE and you'll use a lot fewer resources
[17:45] <kev999> LeartS earlier problem with wkhtml2pdf - caused by program being kepf in memory - resolved by reboot. I can only think because I ran it once before adding Xvfb it got saved in memory - thanks - signing off now
[17:45] <Sepix> nicey i would even suggest after install editing you xinit and using a light weight window manager instead of a full DE if you want to get the most out of the vm
[17:46] <cfhowlett> nicey, you can probably run server without too many problems ...
[17:46] <daftykins> haha, it's still not going to help
[17:46] <daftykins> just let that system die, perhaps bury it in your garden
[17:47] <nicey> can i run ubuntu as live from usb  in virtualbox ??
[17:47] <bekks> nicey: No.
[17:48] <bekks> nicey: vbox doesnt support booting from USB. And having 512M RAM for host AND guest is far too less RAM.
[17:48] <DJones> nicey: You can install Ubuntu in virtualbox from a live usb
[17:48] <Sepix> nicey oh a 512mb host... thoought you meant just the vm
[17:48] <Zombie__> Anyone know where  Valve/Steam games dump their logs? Trying to troubleshoot a game crash
[17:48] <DJones> Oh, but not with that little memory
[17:49] <bekks> DJones: With the workaround of creating a raw vmdk only, since vbox doesnt support booting from USB natively.
[17:50] <daftykins> love it when someone asks a question then quits
[17:50] <Sepix> nicey : install dos 6.00 and use dosshell :) your machine will be fast
[17:51] <thom_> I can't get google chrome to install.
[17:51] <bekks> thom_: Why not?
[17:51] <loonix103> im still confused where to get the ubuntu iso im on the site and they are telling me to use universal usb installer the select the iso, but it didnt tell me where to download the iso
[17:52] <thom_> "The installation or removal of a software package failed"
[17:52] <thom_> that is the error I get
[17:52] <cfhowlett> loonix103, download the ubuntu ISO.  do NOT download the installer
[17:52] <Sepix> loonix just download the desktop iso and mount that on the usb stick
[17:52] <emrah> ı have trouble with my comp voice help
[17:52] <bekks> thom_: When doing what...?
[17:53] <OerHeks>  Sepix ,mount that on the usb stick ?
[17:53] <cfhowlett> loonix103, how much ram?
[17:53] <thom_> bekks, I downloaded the .deb file from Google's website. Double click on it and it will open the software center. I've tried multiple times with the same results every time.
[17:54] <emrah> i have trouble with my comp voice
[17:54] <bekks> thom_: Which deb exactly?
[17:54] <bekks> thom_: And which ubuntu exactly are you on?
[17:54] <loonix103> k ive found the iso
[17:54] <emrah> heeeeeey
[17:54] <ibm_Endymion> Okay, now I have an honest question.  Is there anything akin to Windows' System Restore Points built into Ubuntu, in case I install an update my hardware can't handle?
[17:55] <OerHeks> ibm_Endymion, no
[17:55] <thom_> google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[17:55] <thom_> I'm on 14.04
[17:55] <bekks> ibm_Endymion: you hardware will handle all updates.
[17:55] <xangua> !14.04 | thom_
[17:55] <bekks> !backup | ibm_Endymion
[17:56] <emrah> heeeeeeeeeelp
[17:56] <Doctor_N1ck> no
[17:56] <cfhowlett> !patience|emrah,
[17:56] <bekks> emrah: Form a full, understandable question then, please. Instead of yelling "heeeeeelp".
[17:56] <osbinas> hello got problem with wifi :) swithed on laptop and when disonecting from the network  wifi button still flasing blue  and cant any more swith on wifi
[17:56] <DJones> bekks: Hadn't thought of that, I think last time I created a vbox install, I probably went from a dvd or a raw iso, can't remember which
[17:57] <emrah> no voice  in my comp  when i open a music or movie
[17:57] <ibm_Endymion> bekks: You don't know my hardware.  This thing has had problems with Windows security updates.
[17:57] <Doctor_N1ck> osbinas: have you tried googling "[laptop model] wifi ubuntu"?
[17:57] <ibm_Endymion> Either way.  Wish me luck.
[17:57] <bekks> ibm_Endymion: If you have a hardware issue, then you should fix it.
[17:57] <osbinas> Doctor_N1ck tryed some thing like that nothing
[17:57] <Doctor_N1ck> ibm_Endymion: I curse you and all those that come after you!
[17:58] <bekks> !sound | emrah
[17:58] <maujhsn> cfhowlett How are you today?
[17:58] <cfhowlett> maujhsn, good
[17:59] <maujhsn> cfhowlett Do you use the unzip tar tool very often?
[17:59] <arcimboldo> After a few upgrades, my ubuntu saucy doesn't *see* any usb disk anymore. dmesg is silent, lsusb, lshw and lsblk do not show the device.
[17:59] <bekks> maujhsn: Either unzip or tar?
[17:59] <arcimboldo> Device is working fine on macosx though (same computer), so I guess no hw problem
[18:00] <maujhsn> cfhowlett,  i.e  tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[18:00] <cfhowlett> maujhsn, command line for that kind of stuff
[18:01] <maujhsn> cfhowlett,  I know!
[18:01] <maujhsn> cfhowlett,  How do you reverse the process if you use the command that I showed you?
[18:02] <bekks> maujhsn: "rm"
[18:02] <cfhowlett> maujhsn, ^^^^ carefully
[18:02] <bekks> maujhsn: there is no "reverse command" of "unpack that specific archive" besides "remove the unpackes files manually".
[18:02] <rigo88> hi. can i install on Linux cubieboard-server 3.4.43 #1 PREEMPT Wed May 29 13:37:24 CST 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux the .deb kernel files from kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?
[18:02] <bekks> rigo88: No.
[18:03] <maujhsn> bekks I tried that but this is a slow painstaking manual process...WHY?
[18:03] <cfhowlett> rigo88, linuxcubiboard?  that doesn't sound like something we support on this irc
[18:03] <bekks> maujhsn: Because thats how things work?
[18:03] <rigo88> i c. i tought ubuntu-ubuntu :)
[18:03] <bekks> maujhsn: If you unpack an archive, and you want to remove the unpacked files, remove them.
[18:03] <cfhowlett> rigo88, are you running ubuntu?
[18:04] <maujhsn> bekks This is beyond belief!
[18:04] <rigo88> it has this image cb_ubuntu-13.03-server-v1.0
[18:04] <rigo88> yes
[18:04] <cfhowlett> rigo88, lsb_release -a   output please
[18:04] <bekks> maujhsn: I know. It is reality.
[18:04] <maujhsn> Yes sir!
[18:04] <maujhsn> Thanks!
[18:04] <rigo88> just a sec, need to install pastebinit
[18:05] <rigo88> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7142316/
[18:06] <rigo88> i update and upgrade the tiny board since 15:00 :D
[18:06] <cfhowlett> rigo88, for that you need to ask in #ubunt+1    trusty hasn't been released yet so not supported on this channel
[18:06] <DJones> rigo88: Thats 14.04 which is in development, support for that will be in #ubuntu+1 until its released
[18:06] <rigo88> ok thank you
[18:06] <Wolf480pl> Hello. Why isn't java fx included in openjdk-7 packages?
[18:07] <cfhowlett> Wolf480pl, you'd have to ask the package maintainer
[18:07] <bekks> Wolf480pl: Because it isnt part of the default java distribution.
[18:08] <maujhsn> bekks Next question: How do I change the default text events in xchat? so far I know setting>advanced>text events
[18:08] <bekks> maujhsn: I havent used xchat for the last decade, I dont know.
[18:08] <maujhsn> Want to change display text!
[18:08] <maujhsn> Ok!
[18:08] <guyneedinghelp> I need help, i wanna replace netrunner with ubuntu and keep windows 8 but i dunno how 2 partision. Im currently booted on a live usb!
[18:09] <ac500> my ubuntu server box is churning HD like crazy
[18:09] <ikonia> guyneedinghelp: you've asked about this 10 times and been told 10 times
[18:09] <bychance> i want to map ctrl+alt+t to terminator
[18:09] <ac500> iotop shows "sendmail" running in a loop
[18:09] <guyneedinghelp> WELL IT NEVER HELPED
[18:09] <ac500> do i have some kind of spam mailer malware?
[18:09] <guyneedinghelp> CUZ THE INSTALLER DIDENT SAY ANYTHING
[18:09] <ikonia> guyneedinghelp: you just need to boot the ubuntu livecd - install ubuntu over the net running partitoin and you're done
[18:09] <ikonia> guyneedinghelp: typing in caps won't help
[18:09] <guyneedinghelp> WELL WHAT PARTSION
[18:09] <guyneedinghelp> AND WHAT ABOUT THE SWAP AND STUFF
[18:09] <k1l> guyneedinghelp: please dont use caps to get attention,
[18:09] <cfhowlett> guyneedinghelp, you need to stop now
[18:09] <ikonia> guyneedinghelp: what about it ?
[18:09] <guyneedinghelp> ok
[18:09] <ikonia> guyneedinghelp: this was explained to you,
[18:09] <guyneedinghelp> sorry
[18:09] <ikonia> what's not actually clear to you ?
[18:10] <guyneedinghelp> i just dont get it cuz im a noob really
[18:10] <ikonia> guyneedinghelp: what don't you get ?
[18:10] <ikonia> what's not clear ?
[18:10] <guyneedinghelp> First i dont know what partision to use and second what about the swap and stuff
[18:10] <ac500> GAH its back again
[18:10] <ac500> sendmail is churning disk io
[18:10] <cfhowlett> ac500, #ubuntu-server
[18:10] <ikonia> guyneedinghelp: 1.) the partiton you use is the netrunning one, 2.) you can chose to format swap if you wan't, but you don't have to
[18:10] <ac500> oh ok sorry
[18:11] <guyneedinghelp> Oh. Okay! Thanks! Ill hope for the best and sorry for being so angry1
[18:11] <Wolf480pl> bekks: I've read that javafx is part of jdk since jdk7u6. Is it not the same thing as being part of default java distribution? Is there a separate javafx package?
[18:11] <guyneedinghelp> Thanks guys =3
[18:11] <bekks> Wolf480pl: Whatever you've read was/is wrong then. JavaFX is not part of the default Java distribution.
[18:12] <Wolf480pl> what is "default java distribution"
[18:12] <Wolf480pl> ?
[18:12] <jhutchins> !java
[18:13] <Wolf480pl> it doesn't say antything about javafx
[18:13] <EndymionM> Doctor_N1ck: That was rude
[18:13] <erriq> plz some one help me how i can install tor
[18:14] <bychance> how can i map ctrl+alt+t to terminator? Any HELP
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Erriq: https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian
[18:14] <EndymionM> Either way, followup question now.  How do I install a driver specific to my hardware (say, graphics)?
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> !tor
[18:16] <arcimboldo> bychance,  you mean you want to create a shortcut to start terminator whenever you press ctrl+alt+t? Are you using unity?
[18:17] <bychance> arcimboldo yes and now ctrl + alt + t start gnome terminal but i want to remap it to terminator
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> http://askubuntu.com/questions/70540/how-can-i-set-default-terminal-used-in-unity bychance
[18:17] <bekks> Wolf480pl: The Java Reference Implementation.
[18:17] <vmusr> what screen capture software is best for tutorial?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> vmusr: try a few, see which you like.
[18:18] <arcimboldo> bychance, settings -> keyboard -> shortcut. Add a new shortcut in "custom shortcuts"
[18:18] <vmusr> ActionParsnip, I'm looking for something quick and easy, only requirement is to be able to capture part of the desktop
[18:18] <arcimboldo> it will ask if you want to replace the current one
[18:19] <arcimboldo> (I mean, if you want to reassign the chosen shortcut from terminal to your command)
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Vmusr: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/simplescreenrecorder-powerful-screen.html
[18:20] <bychance> ok let me try, i will come back
[18:20] <vmusr> ActionParsnip, 10x
[18:20] <nicey> I am downloading VirtualBox , what's the command to install it after it finish ??
[18:21] <ikonia> nicey virtual box is in the ubuntu repos, so you should be able to just download and install it at the same time from the ubuntu package manager
[18:21] <bekks> nicey: Thats described in the installation section of the virtualbox manual. :)
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Nicey: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose ,you don't need to manually download anything.
[18:23] <nicey>  <ActionParsnip>but i need to choose i386
[18:23] <bekks> nicey: And?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Nicey: you can run a 32bit guest in the 64bit virtualbox....
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> nicey: i don't see your point....
[18:24] <arcimboldo> I have a very strange problem: my ubuntu doesn't recognize any usb disk anymore. It used to work until a few days ago, and disks are fine.
 i got E: Unable to locate package virtualbox-ose
[18:24] <Wolf480pl> bekks: Is there a separate package for javafx?
[18:25] <bekks> Wolf480pl: yes.
[18:25] <Wolf480pl> where?
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> arcimboldo: can you manually mount it? What file system does it use? When you last ejected it, did you safely remove it before physically unplugging it
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> !info virtualbox-ose | nicey
[18:26] <Guest48923> x
[18:26] <bekks> Wolf480pl: On the official Oracla Java FX site. Just read this:
[18:26] <bekks> Wolf480pl: http://www.wikihow.com/Install-JavaFX-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> !info virtualbox
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Ayyyy
[18:26] <arcimboldo> ActionParsnip, no I cannot mount it, I don't see it in dmesg, lsusb, lshw nor lsblk
[18:26] <arcimboldo> ActionParsnip, I tried multiple disks, mostly FAT or hfs+
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> arcimboldo: do you see it in: sudo fdisk -l
[18:27] <Wolf480pl> bekks: is there no way to install javafx without oraclejdk ?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Nicey: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[18:27] <arcimboldo> ActionParsnip, I only see /dev/sda which is my internal disk
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> arcimboldo: have you tried different USB ports?
[18:27] <bekks> Wolf480pl: Oracle Java is the reference implementation. Either you go with that, or you find some JavaFX implementation for OpenJDK.
[18:28] <arcimboldo> ActionParsnip, yes, and if I reboot in macosx both ports work
[18:28] <Wolf480pl> bekks: so reference impl. of JDK7 is OpenJDK, but reference impl. of JavaFX is Oracle JDK?
[18:28] <arcimboldo> I also tried to reboot with a previous kernel, nothing happen.
[18:28] <arcimboldo> it's a mac, btw.
  Done , do i need to install some additional stuff after installing vbox in order to work ?
[18:29] <bekks> Wolf480pl: Yes. Because JavaFX is developed by Oracle, for Oracle Java.
[18:29] <Wolf480pl> mhm
[18:29] <Wolf480pl> thanks for explaining
[18:29] <kitez> afternood gents.
[18:30] <arcimboldo> ActionParsnip, any idea?
[18:30] <rabbitnightmare> nicey, if vbox doesnt work try boxes
[18:31] <rabbitnightmare> nicey, vbox is horrible, and if you dont like boxes, try vmware player
[18:31] <bekks> vbox works perfectly, while vmware palyer has to be patched to get it installed on Ubuntu.
what do you mean by  horrible  ??
[18:31] <rabbitnightmare> vbox may work on Ubuntu, but it has massive issues with Windows
[18:32] <rabbitnightmare> it wont run cad
[18:32] <rabbitnightmare> like alias autodesk cad, it wont work with wacom tablets
[18:32] <rabbitnightmare> maya ... forget running maya
[18:32] <rabbitnightmare> if you have any real work to do, vbox is really really annoying
[18:33] <rabbitnightmare> I swear its like the blind leading the blind... *walks off*
[18:33] <bekks> Yeah, that was really "a blind leading...".
[18:35] <EndymionM> Okay, simple question here.  ATI doesn't provide the "radeon" driver on their website, neither do Lenovo or IBM.  How on Earth do I install the blasted thing so I can play a game?
[18:36] <bekks> !ati | EndymionM
[18:38] <kitez> !smxi
[18:42] <EndymionM> bekks: That doesn't actually explain anything to me, like how to make sure that the open-source radeon driver is installed and up to date.
[18:44] <OerHeks> EndymionM, the open source one is installed standard, that url gives the closed source one
[18:45] <OerHeks> EndymionM, it is all explained on that page
[18:47] <bekks> EndymionM: "apt-cache search radeon"
[18:52] <thom_> I'm trying to install Google Chrome through the terminal. sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64, is the terminal command I have been trying. Does anyone know of a different command that might work?
[18:53] <Fuchs> well, that obviously only works if there is said file in that directory, I assume it isn't, but without you giving us an error message: just a guess
[18:53] <OerHeks> thom_, that should work, what error do you get?
[18:54] <thom_> cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[18:54] <EndymionM> bekks, OerHeks: This is the card I have: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_7500 ; as far as I can see fglrx doesn't support it, but radeon shouldn't be giving me the hassle it is in OpenTTD.
[18:54] <thom_> it is saved in my downloads folder
[18:54] <KyouReeUs4nfo> thom_: does it have .deb as the extension?
[18:54] <Fuchs> thom_: is there a file with that name in the current directory?  (Doubtful, if there is one, it probably ends on .deb)
[18:54] <OerHeks> thom_, then the deb is not in your current path, use full path
[18:55] <thom_> let me try it again
[18:55] <OerHeks> or cd /to/folder
[18:55] <RhubarbSin> My "aptitude update; aptitude upgrade" on Ubuntu 12.04.4 is stuck at "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-60-generic"; I've tried killing it and restarting but it keeps hanging there. I've soon several forum posts about similar issues but they don't address this problem. Can anyone help?
[18:55] <thom_> dpkg: error processing archive google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb (--install):
[18:55] <thom_>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[18:55] <thom_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[18:55] <thom_>  google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[18:56] <RhubarbSin> ^soon^seen
[18:58] <EndymionM> bekks: What spooks me out most is that when I go into System Settings -> Details -> Graphics, it tells me that the driver is"Unknown".
[18:59] <pvl1> hey where can i get libglew 1.9 only 1.8 is in repos
[18:59] <bekks> EndymionM: Just take a look at Xorg.0.log to see which driver is in use.
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> pvl1  use anything from outsie the repos at your own risk, not supported here
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> outside*
[19:01] <pvl1> figured
[19:01] <EndymionM> bekks: Where can I find that?
[19:01] <pvl1> thanks MonkeyDust
[19:01] <Beldar> pvl1, What release are you using?
[19:02] <pvl1> Beldar: saucy
[19:03] <RhubarbSin> any help on update-initramfs?
[19:03] <bekks> EndymionM: In /var/log/
[19:05] <Beldar> pvl1, In synaptic, in saucy, I see 1.9.0is1.80-Oubuntu2 (saucy) Not sure if maybe the naming is what is incorrect.  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-November/036110.html
[19:05] <whitsan> I'm trying to permanently add a private key for ssh, so I start "ssh-agent /bin/bash", and I add the key "ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa". Works great. But, when I log out and log back in, ssh-agent isn't running, and the key needs to be re-added. Any ideas on how to make this permanent?
[19:09] <EndymionM> bekks: Where do I find which one is active?  It looks like it loaded in both 'ati' and 'radeon', and then tried to find fglrx - and failed because it's not installed.
[19:10] <bekks> EndymionM: Xorg.0.log is active.
[19:10] <EndymionM> No, I mean... how can I tell which it picked to use out of 'ati' and 'radeon'?
[19:10] <pvl1> Beldar: your right, its the libglew-dev package methinks
[19:11] <bekks> EndymionM: There is no "ati" driver. The drivers for ATI are called "radeon" and "fglxr". Since the latter doesnt support your hardware, the first one is loaded.
[19:13] <EndymionM> bekks: Okay, so, then, why does the GUI show that the driver is unknown, and how do I make sure it's set properly?
[19:14] <pvl1> bekks: hm perhaps not, i dont see a .so
[19:14] <bekks> EndymionM: As long as you can see something, it is setup correctly. And "unkown" refers to the fact, that "radeon" is not a closed source binary driver, but an opensource one.
[19:16] <RhubarbSin> thanks for the help, guys; https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2082989&p=12349332#post12349332 helped me, though
[19:16] <maujhsn> bekks Sorry to trouble you again! On a new liveUSB ubuntu is the default host & owner. How do I grant myself either ownership permission, or full administrive permissions to do what ever I want?
[19:16] <Beldar> pvl1, Nothing like package and name changes to make it fun eh. ;)
[19:16] <EndymionM> bekks: Okay... so the slowdown in OpenTTD is because Ubuntu is simply inferior to WinXP, then?
[19:17] <bekks> maujhsn: On a liveusb, you are logged in as "ubuntu".   Different OS.  One runs beautifully, one... doesn't.  Why?
[19:17] <bekks> EndymionM: No. It is because your graphics hardware belongs to the National Museum of Ancient Technologies, in fact.
[19:18] <EndymionM> bekks: Again, how come it runs, again, perfectly and without this slowing, on the same hardware, on another OS?
[19:18] <locodir-user> how do i install ubuntu on hp running windows 8 run wubi & keeps saying im uninstalling it
[19:18] <Beldar> EndymionM, Getting beyond thinking in dichotomies is in the cognitive development scale. ;)
[19:19] <OerHeks> locodir-user, wubi is not going to work on win8
[19:19] <bekks> EndymionM: Thank ATI that they do not ship drivers for old hardware on linux. And XP is out of question, it is going to be EOL very very soon.
[19:19] <locodir-user> how then
[19:19] <OerHeks> !uefi| locodir-user install side-by-side, you may need this manual
[19:20] <OerHeks> locodir-user, except if your HP is an 32 bit CPU, then the answer is no, not possible to run linux on 32 bit cpu/uefi/win8
[19:20] <EndymionM> bekks: As long as it still functions, I don't care about the age.  And by no means is the functional OS out of the question.
[19:21] <EndymionM> Beldar: Pretty hard not to see a dichotomy between working | not working.
[19:21] <bekks> EndymionM: By all means it is, as long as it isnt Ubuntu, which is the only OS supported in here.l
[19:21] <maujhsn> bekks So far this true! I have also noticed that you don't even need a password! But how does anyone protect themselves from the evil outside world?
[19:21] <Beldar> EndymionM, Really, well best of luck.
[19:21] <bekks> maujhsn: By the fact that a live cd isnt writeable, and isnt designed to be used for daily, productive work.
[19:22] <EndymionM> bekks: Okay... are there other graphics modules whose settings might be affecting this?  I know that on both systems it runs on SDL - could that be an issue?
[19:22] <bekks> EndymionM: No, there arent.
[19:22] <maujhsn> bekks My liveUSB is writeable and I do have persistence!
[19:23] <bkfitz> How do boot to terminal... I messed up my gui
[19:23] <bkfitz> by editing a css
[19:23] <bekks> maujhsn: Thats a persistent USB then, not a LiveUSB.
[19:23] <KingPrawn> does using the option of installing Ubuntu 'alongside' Win7 create a new partition for Ubuntu using free space on the Win7 partition?
[19:23] <Beldar> bkfitz, How far does it boot now, can you get a TTY?
[19:24] <maujhsn> Ok..so how do I go about protecting my investment!
[19:24] <bkfitz> ? It just goes to a black screen with mouse
[19:24] <Munger> Hi. I am having trouble preventing line-in playing back through line-out on my SBLive card. I have muted the AC97 channel, which ISTR has something to do with it
[19:24] <bkfitz> Running gnome shell but that shouldn't matter
[19:24] <Beldar> bkfitz, what is "css"
[19:25] <maujhsn> bekks, Ok..so how do I go about protecting my investment from backdoor hackers!
[19:25] <bekks> maujhsn: By stopping to shout all the time.
[19:25] <bkfitz> There is a gnomeshell Chas that I edited, must have screwed it up just need to edit it with vi
[19:25] <bekks> maujhsn: And which "inveestment" do you refer to?
[19:25] <bkfitz> css
[19:26] <bkfitz> to fix the typo
[19:26] <Beldar> !nomodeset | bkfitz try this
[19:26] <emrah> hi guy when start any audio production program ,system sound goes off what can i do
[19:27] <OerHeks> emrah, ubuntu studio ?
[19:27] <bkfitz> Isn't there a key to make it boot to terminal instead of booting x
[19:28] <bkfitz> Just need to edit that file
[19:28] <emrah> yes
[19:28] <OerHeks> emrah, you don't want systemsounds mixing with recordings
[19:28] <bekks> bkfitz: Get into the grub menu, boot into recovery mode.
[19:28] <OerHeks> emrah, so it is a feature
[19:28] <raj__> How could I rotate my bash history of users on my system ? Is is possible to do with logrotate ?
[19:28] <maujhsn> bekks Sorry don't mean to shout!
[19:28] <bekks> maujhsn: You just shouted again. Stop it. One more time, and I will not answer you again.
[19:29] <Beldar> bkfitz, You can chroot or modify the kernel or, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[19:29] <emrah> my problem is that when i run any of this pro.   sound completely dies
[19:29] <syadnom> hi all.  got a weird issue.  I'm try to install 12.04.4 on a pair of 4TB disks in raid1.  I'm in the paritioner in the installer and when I try to create a primary partition  'physical valume for RAID', I can't mark it bootable....
[19:29] <emrah> when i open any music there is no sound
[19:30] <bekks> syadnom: you have to create a bootable partition (on each disk), and a RAID partition.
[19:30] <Beldar> bkfitz, See if at that post boot cursor black screen if ctrl-alt-f1 brings up a working TTY as well.
[19:30] <syadnom> bekks, a non-raid?
[19:31] <Munger> emrah, Are you using jackd & pulseaudio?
[19:31] <HondaJer> both browser has aw snap and crashes... is it malware in ubuntu ?
[19:31] <bekks> syadnom: Yes.
[19:31] <syadnom> bekks, so partition1 /boot as ext3 bootable....but what about if that disk fails?  I was sure I had setup a raid1 for /boot before from the installer
[19:31] <emrah> dont know tthat
[19:31] <Beldar> bkfitz, If you tap esc on the boot you will see text.
[19:32] <ceekryt> emrah  I've had an issue where alsa-mixer somehow muted itself.  Is yours showing mute
[19:32] <bekks> syadnom: After setting up your system, you mirror those partitions too ;)
[19:32] <bkfitz> Ok into recovery editing the file need find in vi
[19:32] <syadnom> bekks, did this change?  I'm seeing guides that say doing exactly what I'm trying to do from the installer
[19:33] <emrah> maybe but sometimes ive had this trouble although i dont run this pros i think its about os
[19:34] <Beldar> bkfitz, Cool, if you need my help, type part of my nick and complete with the tab key, that informs me of your post.
[19:35] <Munger> emrah, Assuming you are only using one sound card, you can route pulseaudio through JACK and rewire things in patchage so that system sounds bypass your recording program
[19:35] <emrah> ceekryt which os are you using
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> emrah  what's the output of   /etc/issue
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> ceekryt   what's the output of   /etc/issue
[19:37] <emrah> im on it
[19:37] <syadnom> note here https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html  number 8 says to mark the raid volume bootable
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> ceekryt   what's the output of   cat /etc/issue (pfoo, i made it)
[19:37] <ceekryt> emrah - I'm currently on DreamStudio.  I had an issue with alsa on an ubuntu 12.10 box in the past.
[19:37] <bkfitz> Ok now vi says cant open file for editing in recovery
[19:38] <bkfitz> even :x! Doesnt save
[19:38] <bkfitz> found the typo though
[19:38] <emrah> ceekryt i run ubuntu studio what should i do
[19:40] <ceekryt> emrah:  Do you know what audio suite you are running? (pulseaudio, jackd, alsa?)  If you are running alsa you should be able to type alsamixer from the command line.
[19:40] <syadnom> bekks, so, looks like a known bug in the debian installer :/
[19:41] <balor> To upload to a PPA, rather than using "dput" can I just scp the ".dsc, .changes, .tar.gz" and ".deb" files to ~<your_launchpad_id>/<ppa_name>/ubuntu/
[19:41] <emrah> i dont know how to look at that
[19:42] <ceekryt> emrah:  Can you get to a command line window?
[19:42] <emrah> yes
[19:43] <__raven> hi
[19:43] <ceekryt> emrah: type alsa (and then tab for autocomplete.  Hopefully alsamixer is there)
[19:44] <bkfitz> So why cant I edit this css file when in recovery terminal
[19:44] <bkfitz> its in usr share gnome shell theme
[19:44] <bkfitz> and I'm root
[19:44] <emrah> yep i find that whats next
[19:45] <ceekryt> emrah:  If it is, select the line you want and hit <m> key to unmute
[19:45] <ceekryt> emrah:  This should bring your sound back
[19:45] <Beldar> bkfitz, Did you read this on the mounting? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[19:46] <ceekryt> emrah:  I'm not familiar with Ubuntu studio so I don't know if the program you were trying to run had a conflict and is causing the issue but hopefully it gets your sound back.
[19:47] <bkfitz> Sorry missed that thx
[19:47] <__raven> ubuntu 13.10: random system freezes with wlan chipset zd1211b on 3.11.0-12-generic - any modules missing?/how to debug?
[19:49] <emrah> thanks ceekryt
[19:51] <lodz> Anyway to go directly to the desktop similiar to Win key + D in windows? In Linuxmint i could add a shortcut at the keyboard settings, but i can't find anything like that in ubuntu
[19:57] <ceekryt> UPTIME
[19:59] <sim_> hi, >>> ubuntu 12.04.4 amd64 - stuck at preparing to install <<< any ideas how to solve this?
[20:01] <Beldar> sim_ Tell us how you got there, exactly, and any actual error.
[20:01] <__raven> ubuntu 13.10: random system freezes with wlan chipset zd1211b on 3.11.0-12-generic - any modules missing?/how to debug?
[20:01] <Beldar> more details in other words
[20:03] <sim_> Beldar: USB boot, try without installing, ubiquity --debug, hdd is partitioned with 4 primaries, network is cat5, no error output on syslog
[20:03] <nitero> how do i fix alsamixer...
[20:03] <nitero> my volume control is whack
[20:03] <Beldar> sim_, If this is a msdos 4 primaries is the limit.
[20:03] <nitero> i was thinking of just getting some other kind of audio application
[20:04] <sim_> Beldar: I know, these are for the planned installtion.
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> nitero  in a terminal, type     alsamixer     if you see MM, go there and press m
[20:05] <Beldar> sim_, Not sure what this is, "try without installing, ubiquity --debug" and why
[20:06] <Beldar> sim_, So a manual install I assume? from  made in the installer, mount is /
[20:06] <sim_> Beldar: try without installing = live option at boot menu, ubiquity --debug = trying to get an error log, been reading: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1080701
[20:07] <Beldar> sim_, I would just do a net install with a mini.
[20:08] <nitero> MonkeyDust,  i appreciate the help, thanks.  terminal brings up "alsamixer v<IP_ADDRESS>" but i don't know what you mean by MM and pressing m doesn't have any effect
[20:08] <sim_> Beldar: okay, will try that. what do you know about this bug though?
[20:10] <Beldar> sim_, Nothing here I have not ran into it myself. I see fixes, not sure why you are having this issue, could be a sum problem showing here.
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Beldar: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[20:13] <sim_> Beldar: have 2 laptops with failed install due to this issue, 3rd laptop worked, desktop computer worked ... it's persistant too!
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> nitero: see my above command
[20:15] <sim_> Beldar: Some say it's a partman issue or "unclean partitioning", others the slide show on the install screen
[20:16] <AfraidToShootStr> Would you recommend installing Ubuntu alongside my Windows or making a partition exclusively for the Ubuntu?
[20:16] <AfraidToShootStr> Pros/Cons?
[20:17] <nitero> ActionParsnip, it just said please inform the person helping you
[20:17] <daftykins> AfraidToShootStr: both options you just stated are the same to me
[20:19] <nitero> ActionParsnip,  ah it won't let me copy the output either
[20:19] <average> hey
[20:19] <AfraidToShootStr> daftykins: Check step 4 http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-desktop-latest
[20:19] <average> why does msmtp depend on postfix in Ubuntu ?
[20:19] <average> this makes absolutely NO sense
[20:19] <average> what's the deal here ?
[20:19] <average> anyone ?
[20:19] <average> hello ?
[20:20] <average> nobody, great
[20:20] <average> this is great
[20:20] <bekks> !enter | average
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> average: got patience....?
[20:20] <bekks> average: Please be patient and do not use enter as a punctuation sign.
[20:20] <kostkon> AfraidToShootStr, the 2nd option will obviously delete windows, so you are only referring to the 1st option
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> average: are there any bugs reported?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> average: not replied ywt
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> average: this is great
[20:20] <average> ActionParsnip: tell me where to report the bug, and I'll do that right away
[20:20] <average> ActionParsnip: launchpad ?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> average: yes
[20:21] <average> ok great(!) I'll do that now
[20:21] <AfraidToShootStr> kostkon: The 3rd option is to create a partition of my HDD allocate solely for the Ubuntu. The first alternativ is to "blend" Ubutun and Win7. Which option would you recommend? Any pros/cons?
[20:21] <kostkon> AfraidToShootStr, no. it's the same
[20:22] <nitero> ActionParsnip,  when i click to highlight the text it just goes back to regular terminal
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Nitero: copy the whole command as one, it will make a URL which you can paste in here
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> AfraidToShootStr: i suggest you dont use Wubi. Its awful. Resize your NTFS and install to the free space
[20:23] <nitero> ActionParsnip,  i used select all from the menu and then copied... i'll just put it in pastebin (i don't know what you mean by "copy the whole command as one" and never saw a URL for the output...)
[20:24] <AfraidToShootStr> ActionParsnip: You mean I reserve some part of my HDD and install Ubuntu on that?
[20:24] <AfraidToShootStr> kostkon: kostkon: Having Ubuntu running alongside Win7 on my, say, 100 GB HDD is different from running Win7 on a 50 GB partition and Ubuntu on another 50 GB partition of the same HDD, right?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> nitero: ok put it in pastebin :-)
[20:24] <kostkon> AfraidToShootStr, actually, the only difference being that the 1st option will create the partitions for you, you won't need to do it manually
[20:24] <daftykins> AfraidToShootStr: yeah alongside = partition
[20:24] <AfraidToShootStr> kostkon: Oh really? Ok I thought it was going to let Windows and Ubuntu live together in the same, say, 100 GB of spaces.
[20:24] <AfraidToShootStr> space*
[20:25] <nitero> ActionParsnip,  i see the URL now... http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=c0a8cee769dbf5a7c8188a3c631df3a75f0bc184
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> nitero: perfect
[20:25] <awlkdjla> how can I make money using ubuntu?
[20:25] <kostkon> AfraidToShootStr, what you are referring to is called wubi and it's not part of the installer
[20:25] <AfraidToShootStr> kostkon: Ok, I was not aware of that. Thank you, I'll read up on it
[20:25] <awlkdjla> how do people make money using ubuntu?
[20:25] <nitero> awlkdjla,  think creatively
[20:25] <awlkdjla> my friend told me he made 10,000 last month using ubuntu
[20:26] <nitero> awlkdjla,  and hard work
[20:26] <nitero> awlkdjla,  ask your friend and tell me =)
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> nitero: does the system have a make and model?
[20:26] <nitero> ActionParsnip,  it's xubuntu 13 for armhf
[20:26] <awlkdjla> CAn I sell ubuntu to people?
[20:26] <nitero> ActionParsnip,  on an odroid u3
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> awlkdjla: yes absolutely
[20:27] <awlkdjla> Can I promise them that they can make money using ubuntu?
[20:27] <kostkon> awlkdjla, yes
[20:27] <OerHeks> awlkdjla, you can try
[20:27] <LtRipley> you can promise a lot :)
[20:27] <LtRipley> you can promise that ubuntu will help your virility
[20:27] <awlkdjla> Ok but what if Ubuntu is offered with a magazine can I do that?
[20:27] <kostkon> awlkdjla, by charging for instlalation and support for example
[20:27] <nitero> ActionParsnip,  ah, is there a terminal command to find out all that info
[20:28] <nitero> ActionParsnip,  or is that enough
[20:28] <awlkdjla> I say you buy my magazine and you get ubuntu
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Nitero: are you wanting to use HDMI audio?
[20:28] <awlkdjla> and there is a DVD with ubuntu in it
[20:28] <nitero> ActionParsnip, hdmi audio doesn't work
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> awlkdjla: yes there is a DVD ISO
[20:28] <nitero> ActionParsnip,  so i use regular computer speakers for the audio
[20:29] <awlkdjla> can I use ubuntu to hack into other computers for educational purposes?
[20:29] <average> ActionParsnip: it was mutt(not msmtp) . I reported the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutt/+bug/1296389
[20:29] <awlkdjla> or does the license not allow it?
[20:30] <average> chey can someone have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutt/+bug/1296389 please ?
[20:30] <bekks> awlkdjla: No license in this world allows "hacking".
[20:30] <OerHeks> awlkdjla, what answer do you like?
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> awlkdjla  how legal is what you want to do?
[20:30] <awlkdjla> bekks what is the command to hack into another computer?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> average: the devs will check it over in time. Bug reports are not replied to in real time. You have zero patience. Its really quite comical.
[20:31] <average> ActionParsnip: nobody has patience
[20:31] <average> this is 21st century
[20:31] <awlkdjla> MonkeyDust I am just testing my laptop ubuntu from my workstation
[20:31] <average> I am appreciative if the devs look at it
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> awlkdjla: the license says the software is free. You can sell ubuntu as you wish but few will as it is free
[20:31] <average> ActionParsnip: ofc I don't expect this to be real-time
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> average: i do, most people do.
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> awlkdjla  what do you mean by "hack"?
[20:32] <awlkdjla> how can I work for ubuntu?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> average: if you dont expect it to be realtime why post the link in here
[20:32] <average> ok you're right
[20:32] <average> I just wanted to advertise the bug
[20:32] <average> so people know about it
[20:32] <OerHeks> awlkdjla, you can pay ubuntu to work for us.
[20:32] <trism> average: it doesn't depend, only recommends, you don't have to install it, --no-install-recommends
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> average: yes the bug report lets people know about it
[20:32] <Flannel> average: So, couple of things.  It doesn't depend on postfix, it depends on a virtual package (actually, two of them), so if you want something else, have at it.  Second, it's a recommends anyway.
[20:32] <nitero> ActionParsnip, ok i'm going to go eat some food, i'll bbs
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> awlkdjla: there is a job section on the ubuntu site like any company site
[20:33] <average> Flannel: well, in debian there's really no (in)direct dependency on postfix
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> nitero: could try the latest mainline kernel. May help but its good to test
[20:33] <average> Flannel: and I really don't see why ubuntu should have this dependency
[20:33] <average> Flannel: what do you suggest as an alternative ?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> average: if it is deemed superfluous it will be changed
[20:34] <Flannel> average: Ubuntu has decided that it's default mta is postfix.  You're free to install something else if you'd like, but if you have no preference, then postfix will be installed.
[20:34] <average> trism: well now, do you expect people to type --no-install-pfff for each package they install ?
[20:34] <Flannel> average: Any one of these: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/mail-transport-agent
[20:34] <average> Flannel: thank you
[20:34] <average> Flannel: I would like to suggest msmtp-mta
[20:34] <average> I think it's a very robust and flexible mta
[20:35] <Flannel> average: and actualy, debian does *exactly* this same thing.  Their default-mta is exim4-daemon-light and not postfix, but other than that, these are exactly the same situation.
[20:35] <trism> average: no, only for the packages where you don't want recommends
[20:35] <unixresources> hy
[20:36] <average> Flannel: well, be things as they may, postfix is quite an insanely heavy-weight dependency by default and I really think it's unreasonable
[20:37] <Flannel> average: It's only 4x the size of exim4-daemon-light, so I'm not sure that's worth arguing over.
[20:38] <average> this is a typical case of http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/debian_main.png
[20:38] <average> but really in that comic, debian, should be replaced with ubuntu
[20:38] <average> anyway, that's my oppinion
[20:39] <Flannel> average: again, it's not a dependency at all, it's recommende, so *all* MTAs could be skipped.  Even if you choose not to, you can pick any MTA not just postfix, to satisfy the recommends.
[20:39] <average> Flannel: if I read e-mail on my laptop with mutt, would I want to install postfix ? no, I would not. That is my point
[20:39] <bekks> average: the point is, postfix is not a dependency, but a recommend.
[20:40] <Flannel> average: If you're just reading email, you wouldn't want any MTA, so don't install any MTA.
[20:40] <average> bekks: yes, but as I said above, --no-install-recommends is a good option, but how many people write that whenever they install a package? not many(I know I don't)
[20:40] <bekks> average: By default, no recommends are installed.
[20:40] <Flannel> bekks: No, that's not true.
[20:41] <average> Flannel: you are very pedantic, of course I also need to send e-mail. but would I need postfix to do that ? I do not think so
[20:41] <bekks> Flannel: Since when?
[20:41] <Flannel> bekks: A few years ago, big discussion about recommends by default
[20:41] <t1mp> hello
[20:41] <average> let's have another discussion now about recommends by default
[20:41] <average> I can have it right now
[20:41] <emrah> lmms dont work
[20:41] <average> like right now
[20:41] <bekks> average: you need a MUA to send email using the MTA your mutt uses. Not a locally installed MTA.
[20:41] <Flannel> average, bekks, lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, it's not on topic for this channel.
[20:42] <bekks> Flannel: agreed.
[20:42] <t1mp> I'm running trusty, and since today (or perhaps since some days ago, I don't reboot often), after rebooting, I get lightdm, but when I login I get an empty screen
[20:42] <average> ok let's go in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:42] <t1mp> compiz or unity won't start..
[20:42] <t1mp> does anyone have a similar problem or know if there is a new bug (and how to work around it?)
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> t1mp  trusty support in ubuntu+1
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> emrah: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue ,and what is the issue with LMMS? 'don't work' tells us nothing....
[20:43] <t1mp> MonkeyDust: what do you mean?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> T1mp: trusty is only supported in #ubuntu+1 til support day
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> t1mp  i mean, type /join #ubuntu+1 and ask there
[20:44] <t1mp> MonkeyDust, ActionParsnip ah thanks. I didn't realize that ubuntu+1 was a channel name.
[20:44] <emrah> generally freezes and  no sound
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> emrah: and the output of: cat /etc/issue
[20:46] <emrah> terminated unexpectedly
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> emrah: did you run it in a terminal?
[20:47] <kostkon> emrah, lmms you mean
[20:47] <emrah> yes
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> emrah: there is a space between 'cat' and '/etc/issue'
[20:48] <dako_ug_bisong> what's the matter if my distro is not being supported anymore?.
[20:48] <emrah> what is it i dont understand that technicals
[20:48] <dako_ug_bisong> what would be the risk?
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrade | dako_ug_bisong
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> emrah: its copying and pasting text. Youan do that right?
[20:49] <OerHeks> dako_ug_bisong, no updates, no support
[20:49] <jhutchins> dako_ug_bisong: The main thing is no security patches.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> emrah: copy the command I gave an press CTRL+ALT+T and paste the command to the terminal. Press ENTER and copy the output. Paste in the channel
[20:50] <jhutchins> dako_ug_bisong: It also gets harder to get a clean upgrade as it gets older, and problems with upgrades are not supported.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> emrah: nothing technical at all, copying and pasting text is hardly technical
[20:50] <dako_ug_bisong> what about the browser like firefox,it can't update the latest one?\
[20:50] <kostkon> dako_ug_bisong, nope
[20:51] <emrah> i wanna die at all
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> dako_ug_bisong: you wont get updates from the repos. They wil be turnd off. You may be able to download it from the Mozilla website but you probably wont satisfy deps and it wont run
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> emrah: if you can get the output of the command, we can proceed
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> dako_ug_bisong  in short: upgrade to a supported release
[20:52] <guntbert> cisconinja: thx for reporting back, glad you got the ssh issue fixed
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> dako_ug_bisong: if you clean install Trusty you will get LTS up to April 2019
[20:53] <dako_ug_bisong> if i upgrade to latest distro,how can that affect my 10yr old machine?..run slow?..
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> dako_ug_bisong: you can use Xubuntu and use fewer resources than traditional Ubuntu
[20:55] <dako_ug_bisong> what about lubuntu,lxle which is better among them?i'm being confuse..
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> dako_ug_bisong  yes, you can try that too
[20:56] <jhutchins> dako_ug_bisong: you can have either xfce or lxde or both.
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> dako_ug_bisong  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[20:58] <jhutchins> dako_ug_bisong: Which is better is up to you.
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: funny how it lists Unity as a DE
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  guess it simply stresses appearances
[21:01] <netameta_> how can i shorten the time it takes for a http request to timeout ? like i make a request if i dont get a response within 3 second shut the request down
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Netameta: in what application?
[21:03] <netameta_> well i was sure its a ubunutu 's feature but for node
[21:05] <howtech> Hi
[21:05] <howtech> I need help
[21:05] <miloe> salut
[21:05] <howtech> does the Intel® Graphics Installer 1.0.4 for Linux work on Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:06] <howtech> it says it works on ubuntu 13.10
[21:06] <bekks> howtech: No, it doesnt.
[21:06] <howtech> k :(
[21:06] <howtech> should i use the older version?
[21:06] <lagay> hi guys..do i need cleaner like ccleaner?
[21:06] <bekks> howtech: You should state the actual issue you are having?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> lagay: are you low on disk space?
[21:06] <howtech> Im trying to update my graphics card driver
[21:06] <howtech> let me get the card name
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> lagay  there's bleachbit
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> howtech: omgubuntu has a howto for installing it
[21:07] <howtech> Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12)
[21:07] <bekks> howtech: Then run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[21:07] <howtech> k
[21:08] <kostkon> howtech, what is your kernel version
[21:08] <lagay> not quite  ..i'm running with win7 on other side..i use 15GB for linux..
[21:08] <howtech> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[21:08] <bekks> howtech: thats your ubuntu version, not your kernel version.
[21:08] <kostkon> howtech, with e.g. uname -a
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> lagay: then why do you want to clean the OS if you are not low on space?
[21:09] <howtech> k how do i check the kernal version
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> howtech  uname -r
[21:10] <howtech> 3.11.0-18-generic
[21:10] <howtech> also the other command does not work
[21:10] <howtech> i got this error
[21:10] <kostkon> howtech, nvm then
[21:10] <howtech> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:  xserver-xorg-video-intel : Depends: xorg-video-abi-11                             Depen
[21:10] <guntbert> !paste | howtech
[21:10] <lagay> like windows i have cleaning software i'm just asking if i can do that in linux
[21:11] <bekks> howtech: Then read this article closely, on how to et the LTS enablement stack for X: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> lagay: yes, bleachbit exists. Be careful with it
[21:11] <bekks> lagay: You can, but it isnt necessary.
[21:11] <howtech> reading it
[21:11] <kostkon> lagay, already told you about bleachbit
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> lagay  there's bleechbit and there's ubuntu-tweak janitor (not in the repos)
[21:12] <howtech> ubuntu 12.04 has what name? Like saucy salamander, Precise, ect
[21:12] <Data_> What is The Topic
[21:12] <bekks> howtech: precise.
[21:12] <howtech> k tnx
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> Data_  type /topic
[21:12] <bekks> howtech: and the latest stable ubuntu is saucy.
[21:12] <OerHeks> Data_, type: /topic
[21:12] <Data_> ty
[21:13] <Data_> Can i install with Sudo
[21:13] <howtech> ok thnaks
[21:13] <Data_> Files
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Data_: install what?
[21:14] <Data_> a Media player
[21:14] <howtech> I cant find a command for installing the precise version, so should i just replace the version on the command with precise?
[21:14] <CountryfiedLinux> Hey y'all
[21:14] <CountryfiedLinux> got an issue here
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Data_: ubuntuncomes with totem by default.
[21:14] <Data_> aww Right
[21:14] <kostkon> Data_, and rhythmbox
[21:14] <CountryfiedLinux> I attempted this https://gist.github.com/lewisgoddard/6223985
[21:14] <lagay> is there a risk on bleachbiit?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Data_: vlc and gnome-mplayer are 2 examples of available media players. There are others
[21:14] <CountryfiedLinux> Then I got this
[21:14] <CountryfiedLinux> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> lagay: yes, you can remove settings you want to keep
[21:15] <CountryfiedLinux> So do I need to downgrade some packages or is Midori just too "deprecated" now days?
[21:15] <kostkon> lagay, of course there is, especially when ran in admin mode, be careful with it
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> CountryfiedLinux: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:16] <lagay> ok.thks guys..
[21:16] <CountryfiedLinux> 12.04 ActionParsnip
[21:17] <Data_> How do you again access to root with sudo on your own computer
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> CountryfiedLinux: all that isn't needed, just install flashplugin-installer and younwill get flash. You don't need nspluginwrapper
[21:17] <bekks> !sudo | Data_
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Data_: sudo -i
[21:17] <Data_> Okay
[21:18] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks ActionParsnip
[21:18] <Data_> thanx alot ActionParsnip
[21:18] <Rubas> Can i dropbox my www folder?
[21:19] <techie123> helo
[21:19] <OerHeks> Rubas, depends on the free space in your dropbox, but basicly you can,
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Rubas: sure, you can make a symlink in your dropbox folder to /var/www and it will be sync'd
[21:19] <techie123> OerHeks can you read me?
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> techie123  it works, we see you
[21:20] <Rubas> OerHeks, ActionParsnip: would it be clever?
[21:20] <Data_> Idk what to ask
[21:20] <celroc> Rubas: ActionParsnip and OerHeks got it :-)
[21:20] <techie123> terrific thanks.
[21:20] <bekks> Rubas: Most likely, no.
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> Rubas: sure, why would it not?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> Rubas: if you have the dpace on dropbox, why not...
[21:20] <techie123> I am using xchat on the linux environment but would accept advise from others with better irc clients
[21:20] <celroc> Rubas: It can be.  Dropbox is a great way to back stuff up and keep it synced on a bunch of computers
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> techie123: there is no better, or best. There is just what you like..
[21:21] <bekks> Rubas: Having files in those directories containing personal data like passwords, etc. - you might dont want to put them on dropbox
[21:21] <techie123> ActionParsnip you make a lot of sense!
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> techie123: if you like xchat, use it
[21:22] <celroc> techie123: I personally kinda like Pidgin myself.
[21:22] <techie123> Just recently installed foresight linux and I am still learning the ropes with this.
[21:22] <sydney> Hello, Is there a simple way to disable the guest account,or put a time limit on it?
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> techie123  "best" simply depends on what you prefer
[21:22] <Rubas> bekks: thanks, :)
[21:22] <Rubas> thanks for all the answers, I think I'll stick to git :)
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> sydney: do you mean a time limit on the time it can be logged in?
[21:22] <techie123> Very true <MonkeyDust>. Is there anybody in here familiar or using foresight Linux or is this mostly ubuntu
[21:23] <Rubas> Thanks to, OerHeks, ActionParsnip, celroc, bekks :)
[21:23] <techie123> or is foresight linux part of ubuntu?
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> sydney  http://www.howtogeek.com/117994/how-to-disable-ubuntus-guest-session-account/
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> techie123: this is ubuntu only support. Other distros will have their own support chanels