[06:26] <trevor_> I'll be back in a bit...
[06:27] <rickey> i have a folder  under   system media called  storage media , and under that i have floppy
[06:27] <rickey> is that what your talking about
[06:28] <trevor_> rickey:
[06:29] <trevor_> rickey: yeah..
[06:33] <pikkot> I can see only blank screen at text terminals, any help, please.
[06:34] <rickey> ok trevor wen i rigth click on that file  i see no mounting tab
[06:34] <rickey> wen i click on the floppy icon
[06:35] <rickey>  rigth click
[06:36] <JuJuBee> I am still fighting with my laptop to projector problem via ATI Radeon 9700. Been reading the online how-to's.  When I try to run aticonfig, it does not exist as a commnad.
[06:40] <emilsedgh> JuJuBee: do you have propertiary drivers of ati?
[06:40] <JuJuBee> I just downloaded 8.41
[06:40] <JuJuBee> and installed...
[06:41] <JuJuBee> I just want to get a dual head set up working properly.
[06:41] <JuJuBee> Worked with edgy, but since I installed feisty (clean install of laptop) not able to get it working correctly.
[06:43] <JuJuBee> OK aticonfig --initial -f seems to have worked.  Now how do i config dual head?  I would eventually like to span so i can work on my laptop without projecting... Use a left and right screen.
[06:45] <jhutchins_x> Sounds like a good plan.
[06:45] <JuJuBee> Yea, now if I can only get it to work.
[06:45] <jhutchins_x> I've got a box running XP here that does something similar, one head is the lobby display, one is on a KVM.
[06:46] <jhutchins_x> We don't do split screens though.
[06:46] <jhutchins_x> I'm sure there have to be pages out there about dual-heading ATI's on Kubuntu.
[06:46] <JuJuBee> I had mirroring working sort of, part of my desktop did not display on screen.
[06:59] <mikelima> Hi all
[06:59] <mikelima> I have a problem with networkmanager and kmail.
[07:00] <llp78> Hi all, I need some help please - i want to change so that hen i click a torrent it launches ktorrent instead of azurues - where abouts is the file assosation thing...?
[07:00] <bazhang> what's the issue mikelima?
[07:00] <mikelima> I can't make kmail check my mailboxes, since it thinks I'm off line.
[07:00] <mikelima> But I'm not.
[07:01] <mikelima> Is there a way to make kmail ignore whatever the networkmanager says?
[07:01] <mikelima> Actually knetworkmanager shows the connected icon, but kmail does not even try to connect to my servers...
[07:02] <bazhang> mikelima: I've never used kmail, so I'm not sure about that one; have you considered posting at #kmail?
[07:03] <mikelima> bazhang: no... but I think it's a kubuntu issue.
[07:03] <mikelima> or maybe the enterprise edition tries to be too smart...
[07:04] <mikelima> uhm, it does not look like there is a #kmail channel.
[07:05] <bazhang> llp78: have you tried right clicking on the file and choosing open with, or you could just uninstall azureus; alternately (are you using Firefox or Konqueror) you could specify in your browser which app to launch the torrent with as you download it
[07:06] <llp78> bazhang: i installed azures via apt-get - noticed that its mega memory hungry and removed it via apt-get but it still tries to open torrents with azures even though its not there..
[07:07] <llp78> bazhang im using konqueror - but havent found that option ?
[07:08] <bazhang> llp78: when you download the torrent in Firefox (or whatever), I believe you can specify how to open it, or just to save it to desktop, then check it a box that says something like 'do this every time' or such.
[07:08] <llp78> bazhang: nice work around but i thought we could fix this little bugger right now
[07:10] <bazhang> llp78: maybe this is not what you want to hear, but could you save it to a folder, then in Ktorrent settings you can load the plugin scan folder, which looks for net torrent files and the automatically loads them?
[07:10] <bazhang> net=new
[07:11] <weswh-> does anyone use pidgin for google talk?
[07:11] <llp78> bazhang: is there an apt-get command i can use to clean/wipe this azures of the pc - i have tried apt-get remove but still there
[07:12] <bazhang> llp78: how did you install it?
[07:12] <llp78> bazhang: apt-get install azurues
[07:13] <llp78> bazhang and removed it with apt-get remove azures
[07:13] <llp78> bazhang: tried autoclean option aswell - still nada
[07:14] <xenol> hello. i would like to ask how can i upgrade to gutsy?
[07:15] <bazhang> llp78: you can set ktorrent to scan a folder and load the torrents automatically--not sure how azureues really matters--is it crashing your machine, or does ktorrent refuse to launch? You can ask at the Azureus channel, though I don't see the big issue here.
[07:16] <bazhang> xenol: you should probably check out #ubuntu+1
[07:17] <llp78> bazhang: thanks for your help - i have now fixed the issue from within konqueror settings - the problem was that everytime i clicked a torrent download - i allways got "open with azures" but never gave me the option for ktorrent  - thanks for putting up with me got there in the end
[07:17] <bazhang> llp78: glad you got it figured; cheers!
[07:17] <xenol> bazhang: ty dude
[07:17] <bazhang> xenol: see you there...
[07:22] <Vermux> where is Kwrite?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> @ /usr/bin/kwrite
[07:26] <Vermux> cant find it
[07:27] <Vermux> DaSkreech: how do I find where is it
[07:27] <DaSkreech> Vermux: open a konsole and type which kwrite
[07:28] <mikelima> anybody knows where are the networkmanager configuration files?
[07:29] <mikelima> I'd like to zap them and see if eth0 can be made to work again.
[07:29] <frojnd> I have a Q. How can I checj what version of linksys wifi do I have ? here is the output of lspci but I can't find any linksys http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40087/  its's pci card...
[07:30] <llutz> frojnd: the RaLink one
[07:31] <frojnd> llutz,  OMG and I thought that it isnt :S And I've put rt61 and rt61pci module on blackist...
[07:31] <frojnd> llutz, maybe this is the reason that it freezes...
[07:32] <llutz> frojnd: it's the only wifi card listed ;)
[07:32] <llutz> frojnd: so if you don't have 2 wifis (one not listed) it is a card using ralink chipset
[07:36] <frojnd> llutz, I only have one wifi... so this one is ralink?
[07:36] <llutz> frojnd: yes
[07:36] <frojnd> llutz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsLinksys here is the list of supported wifi cards..
[07:36] <frojnd> but here is the output: 02:08.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[07:36] <frojnd> so do I have to or do I NOT have to put rt61 to a blackist?
[07:36] <frojnd> I'm confused here...
[07:37] <llutz> that linksys card uses a ralink rt61-chipset, so you shouldn't blacklist it's driver
[07:37] <frojnd> oh...
[07:37] <frojnd> lemme reboot :D
[07:37] <llutz> frojnd: blacklist rt61pci and try using rt61
[07:38] <frojnd> llutz, I write rt61pci into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist yes ?
[07:38] <llutz> frojnd: i think so
[07:41] <frojnd> llutz, but how can I use rt61 ?
[07:41] <frojnd> llutz, or does this automatically use it ?
[07:41] <llutz> frojnd: if rt61 isn't loaded automatically try "sudo modprobe rt61"
[07:42] <staviklotz> ee
[07:43] <frojnd> llutz, can I somehow do this that it will be loaded automatically ?
[07:50] <rickey> would someone like to help me , figure out  how to operate my floppy drive
[07:52] <nosrednaekim> rickey: sure..
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> rickey: whats the problem?
[07:54] <rickey> nosre just dont know how to do it
[07:54] <rickey> i broth some new floppys the other day
[07:55] <rickey>   and went to try to use them like i did in windows , and they didnt wrok
[07:55] <nosrednaekim> you put them in the drive and nothing happened?
[07:55] <rickey> work
[07:55] <rickey> yes
[07:55] <Vermux> DaSkreech: I opened the program, how do I found its location?
[07:56] <rickey> no icon came up on desktop
[07:56] <rickey> now
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Vermux: open a konsole and type which kwrite
[07:57] <nosrednaekim> !floppy
[07:57] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[07:58] <rickey>  i can go to system menu  and click no stroege media , and there i see a icon for floppy
[07:58] <rickey> but i cant make it copy from there
[07:58] <nosrednaekim> read that above ^^
[07:58] <Broc93> I've got a question: how can I save my files on a secondary Hard Drive without Operating System???
[07:58] <rickey> ok thank,s
[07:59] <Vermux> DaSkreech: thanks
[07:59] <CPrompt^> Broc93 : drive has to be formated at the very least
[08:00] <DaSkreech> Broc93: learn Assembly and write a firmware routine for the device
[08:00] <Broc93> CPrompt^: the drive is formatted in NTFS
[08:00] <DaSkreech> CPrompt^: Not really
[08:00] <CPrompt^> DaSkreech : really?  I didn't think you'd even be able to access the drive
[08:00] <DaSkreech> CPrompt^: Raw devices are useful and fun
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> !NTFS | Broc93
[08:01] <ubotu> Broc93: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:02] <Broc93> ok thank you
[08:09] <jpierre> salut a tous
[08:09] <crache> anyone know what the difference between compiz-compcomm-plugins-main and compiz-fusion-plugins-main is, which one is prefereable?
[08:11] <Scunizi> anyone run Korganizer and Evo?  Do you get scheduled events who's appointment time is changed automatically?
[08:12] <nosrednaekim> crache: I'd get the second
[08:12] <crache> ok I just reverted to it, after realizing the compcomm replaced the original, thanks for the second opinion though
[08:13] <nosrednaekim> crache: i've never heard of the first.
[08:14] <crache> thanks again
[08:14] <nosrednaekim> NP
[08:17] <rickey> nosre are you a bot or a real preson
[08:18] <nosrednaekim> lol... i'm a real person
[08:18] <DaSkreech> !bot
[08:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:19] <nanou> -ChanServ- [#ALSA]
[08:21] <eMaX> hi all
[08:22] <eMaX> Anyone ever seen this: "the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken"
[08:22] <quique_> hello people
[08:23] <boggystudios> I am having trouble with my laptop's wireless connection
[08:24] <boggystudios> I used to be able to hover over the knetworkmanager icon on the panel and see a list of wireless networks near me but now I can't see them
[08:24] <user_> someone can give me an idea\answer about alsa?
[08:25] <oxyman> can somebody tell me a wav -> mp3 converter. most likely a kde application of course :-)
[08:25] <jpatrick> oxyman: lame
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> oxyman: kaudiocreator
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> or something like tat
[08:25] <user_> yes audiocreator is good
[08:25] <oxyman> ok, thanks. i'll check that :-)
[08:25] <jpatrick> oxyman: soundKonvertor is my personal fav
[08:26] <oxyman> jpatrick: thanks, I'll take a look into it :-)
[08:26] <user_> I've got DELL9400 inspiron with Sigmatel Stac 9200....
[08:26] <user_> For monts I try to get sound working on SPDIF...
[08:27] <poison--> !pt
[08:27] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:27] <[ifr0g] > hpiod: unable to write data hp:/usb/Photosmart_C3100_series?serial=CN77BC53BM04KV: Resource temporarily unavailable io/hpiod/channel.cpp 63
[08:27] <user_> ...in ALSA-projec site and in many many sites, I don't understand if it's isue or if I'm wrong
[08:27] <[ifr0g] > HELP ^^
[08:29] <user_> I never have had problem with HP. I don't know ifrOg
[08:30] <user_> ...I'm using Kubuntu 7.10 now
[08:31] <nosrednaekim> user_: go to #ubuntu+1 if you are usiong gutsy
[08:31] <user_> no no, the problem is the same by many upgrade
[08:32] <user_> ...anyway I'll go #ubuntu+1. Thanks
[08:34] <boggystudios> how does one tell knetworkmanager to ignore a manual configuration?
[08:35] <selfsearcher[] > hi
[08:35] <nosrednaekim> boggystudios: not sure..
[08:36] <nosrednaekim> hey selfsearcher[]
[08:36] <selfsearcher[] > I need some info about KDE themes: I need to know where to put them since I'm not sure... thank you :D
[08:37] <nosrednaekim> !themes
[08:37] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:37] <elkang> do u use kubuntu selfsearcher[] ?
[08:37] <selfsearcher[] > er... ok I know where to find them but not how manually install them. Is there an how-to out there? ;)
[08:37] <DaSkreech> boggystudios: you mean get a dynamic IP ?
[08:38] <selfsearcher[] > elkang: yes I do. Feisty + kubuntu + kde suggested (maybe?)
[08:38] <selfsearcher[] > KDE 3.5.6
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> selfsearcher[] : yeah... there is a tutorial, just a sec.
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> !changethemes
[08:39] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[08:39] <boggystudios> DaSkreech: well when I click on the knetworkmanager icon on the panel it used to show a list of networks that I could connect to, now it doesn't
[08:39] <selfsearcher[] > I feel a bit lost. I found a LOT of themes (really a lot) but every theme is a different thing
[08:39] <DaSkreech> boggystudios: Right click?
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> there you go selfsearcher[]  ^^
[08:39] <boggystudios> DaSkreech: they both do the same thing in this instance
[08:39] <selfsearcher[] > nosrednaekim: thank you! I'll read it now
[08:40] <DaSkreech> boggystudios: really?
[08:40] <boggystudios> DaSkreech: yup
[08:40] <DaSkreech> The status dialog?
[08:40] <selfsearcher[] > ok! Bookmarked :D
[08:40] <boggystudios> DaSkreech: yup
[08:41] <DaSkreech> boggystudios: Funky. Did you update knetworkmanager?
[08:41] <boggystudios> I did a full upgrade of everything, however knetworkmanager wasn't one of the things that was upgraded
[08:42] <Rixxor> if i want to switch to kubuntu from windows, i'll need drivers for my pcmcia card to be able to connect to the internet. Will kubuntu have these drivers?
[08:42] <bazhang> Rixxor: which card?
[08:42] <Rixxor> 3g
[08:43] <Rixxor> HAUWEI
[08:43] <DevideZero> kubuntu 7.10 final\stable has been released already ?
[08:43] <elkang> nope
[08:43] <DaSkreech> Oct 18
[08:43] <thomas_> DevideZero: 10/18
[08:44] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | Rixxor
[08:44] <ubotu> Rixxor: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:44] <selfsearcher[] > DevideZero: i feel Gutsy still a bit too much in beta at the moment...
[08:44] <bazhang> Rixxor: here is a link: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/
[08:44] <Rixxor> thanks bazhang :)
[08:44] <bazhang> Rixxor: that is a very complete compendium of Linux drivers and vendors.
[08:44] <DevideZero> gusty will have compiz fusion repos ?
[08:44] <bazhang> Rixxor: no problem
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> DevideZero: it'll be in the repositories by default, yes
[08:45] <bazhang> DevideZero: they are part of Gutsy repos
[08:46] <Urcl> Sorry am a newbie to Ubuntu so i just installed it and cannot find the php and apache package
[08:46] <Urcl> what do i do thanks
[08:46] <bazhang> oops, sorry nosrednaekim.
[08:46] <Urcl> ?
[08:46] <DevideZero> cool , and if i will install compzi fusion it will automaticly install for me the driver for my video card ?
[08:46] <JuJuBee> OK, I have been messing with my video settings (trying to get ATI radeon 9700 to do dual head correctly). I tired the os drivers and the proprietary drivers with no success with either one.  How can I Uninstall all remnants of the proprietary drivers and go back to just the os drivers?
[08:46] <fay_elf> Urcl:sudo apt-get update
[08:46] <genii> Urcl: You installed the ubuntu server ?
[08:47] <Urcl> i installed the desktop edition
[08:47] <Urcl> but i use a modem so i cannot get online from the kernel
[08:47] <Urcl> am currently on windows to get online
[08:47] <Urcl> I need it for scripting
[08:47] <selfsearcher[] > DevideZero: Gutsy + Compiz fusion... someone said Gutsy will not have Compiz enabled by default. But Compiz will be in the repos
[08:47] <genii> Urcl: then you will not have by default php or apache, etc. after you update the application repositories, you can install ubuntu-lamp package which will provide you with apache2,php, and mysql
[08:48] <bazhang> Ubuntu will have it ; Kubuntu does not presently selfsearcher[]
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> JuJuBee: proprietary drivers from the repositories or from the .run file?
[08:48] <Urcl> sorry aren't we flooding the room
[08:48] <DaSkreech> !dualhead | JuJuBee
[08:48] <ubotu> JuJuBee: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[08:48] <Urcl> can u tell me privately <genii>
[08:48] <Urcl> ?
[08:49] <Urcl> am really new to it
[08:49] <selfsearcher[] > bazhang: yes you are right. But someone can still use Compiz in KDE with the script
[08:49] <fay_elf> Urcl:it is always flooded ;)
[08:49] <genii> Urcl: Here is fine, and educational.
[08:49] <Urcl> ok
[08:49] <bazhang> selfsearcher[] : that's a good point. very easy to set up.
[08:49] <Urcl> i didn't want to break any rules
[08:50] <genii> Urcl: Without internet from inside ubuntu, it will be problemmatic to set up apache,php etc
[08:50] <DaSkreech> !lamp
[08:50] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:50] <selfsearcher[] > bazhang: did I say I own a *+** ATI card? Hehehe... XGL doesn't work well with X800. I'll wait
[08:50] <fay_elf> Urcl:open konsole, type first : sudo apt get update
[08:50] <bazhang> selfsearcher[] : haha
[08:50] <genii> DaSkreech: There is also the ubuntu-lamp metapackage
[08:50] <DaSkreech> genii: add that to the factoid
[08:51] <fay_elf> Urcl: then sudo apt get install ubuntu-lamp
[08:51] <selfsearcher[] > yeah, gimme da card lo! ;) LOL
[08:51] <Urcl> ok
[08:51] <genii> fay_elf: He may need to set up a kppp profile for his dialup modem first
[08:51] <Urcl> but i can't get my linux online
[08:51] <Urcl> so i use windows for my internet stuffs
[08:52] <Urcl> or should i request a server CD?
[08:52] <psyhhix> how can i connect to my pc (win xp) with xfce? theres a switch between, with kde works fine, but xfce i cant
[08:52] <fay_elf> genii: it wont harm to do it any way, will it?
[08:52] <nosrednaekim> psyhhix: #xubuntu
[08:52] <genii> Urcl: If you are using dialup for main connection, yes, it is simpler to just order the server CD
[08:52] <psyhhix> i tryed
[08:53] <Urcl> Okay
[08:53] <Urcl> I think I should start a download of the cd package now
[08:53] <nosrednaekim> psyhhix: well, if its a XFCE problem, we really can't help... maybe try #xfce.
[08:53] <psyhhix> ok
[08:53] <psyhhix> ty
[08:53] <boerjesl> does anyone have any experience trying to play drm protected video (m4v) in ubuntu?
[08:53] <genii> !info ubuntu-lamp
[08:54] <ubotu> ubuntu-lamp: Packages for a LAMP setup. In component seveas-meta, is optional. Version 7.04-7 (feisty-seveas), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> boerjesl: if its DRMed,. i'd say its PROBABLY impossible
[08:54] <genii> Odd, 32K seems small
[08:54] <Urcl> yes
[08:55] <boerjesl> i've been trying to install itunes 7.3 with wine, but it seems to freeze on "publisihing product information"
[08:55] <DaSkreech> !itunes
[08:55] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[08:55] <Urcl> so should i download the ubuntu lamp? or download a new server edition of the Ubuntu OS?
[08:55] <fay_elf> Not if it's just config
[08:55] <[ifr0g] > hpiod: unable to write data hp:/usb/Photosmart_C3100_series?serial=CN77BC53BM04KV: Resource temporarily unavailable io/hpiod/channel.cpp 63
[08:55] <[ifr0g] > HELP ^^
[08:56] <nosrednaekim> genii: its a metapackage.. it doesn't count deps.
[08:56] <boerjesl> ubotu: i'm not a noob... i'm trying to view video that is only available through itunes and is drmed
[08:56] <genii> Urcl: If you can get your ubuntu using the modem, perhaps try the ubuntu-lamp first. Otherwise ordering the server CD from shipit seems prudent.
[08:56] <genii> nosrednaekim: Aaaaah OK
[08:56] <nosrednaekim> boerjesl: go to #winehq channel for wine issues
[08:56] <Urcl> Thanks genii
[08:56] <boerjesl> ok
[08:57] <genii> Urcl: You have kubuntu or ubuntu cd?
[08:57] <Urcl> the only way am sure i can get it online is maybe I will have to try an internet cafe using LAN cable
[08:57] <fay_elf> Urcl:kppp is in the kubuntu menu and very simple
[08:58] <fay_elf> I just did today a gprs connection in 5 minutes
[08:58] <Urcl> UBUNTU CD
[08:59] <Urcl> yes
[08:59] <Urcl> mine is GPRS
[08:59] <Urcl> am using a GPRS enable phone to connect top my telecom operate
[08:59] <genii> Urcl: Ah, OK. You are in KDE Ubuntu channel ( #kubuntu)
[08:59] <Urcl> they have GPRS services thats how i get online
[08:59] <Urcl> so i don't know how really to configure it on unbuntu
[09:00] <Urcl> cos it doesn't even detect the phone when its connect via USB
[09:01] <genii> Urcl: The standard Ubuntu CD will install Gnome desktop and not KDE, so you will have more help for getting the modem working and so on in #ubuntu instead of here where we would confuse you by referring to applications not existing on your setup :)
[09:01] <genii> eg: kppp
[09:01] <Thomasu> how can i get my kubuntu on danish =?=?
[09:02] <fay_elf> Urcl:try plugging the phone and test it using kppp with device /dev/ttyacm0. It sounds hard but completely graphical
[09:02] <DaSkreech> !gprs
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gprs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[09:02] <genii> fay_elf: He has Gnome
[09:02] <fay_elf> Or plug it, type dmesg in console and read the info which the kernel produces
[09:04] <genii> Urcl:  the regular ubuntu equivelent of kppp is gnome-ppp
[09:05] <direktorate> anyone speak romanian?
[09:05] <direktorate> whatever
[09:06] <borite1> hello
[09:06] <DaSkreech> !ro
[09:06] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> hello borite1
[09:07] <Thomasu> hello someone who can help me
[09:07] <borite1> can you say me why kdetv says: cannot detect video signal?
[09:09] <Urcl> how do i get on ubuntu channel?
[09:09] <fay_elf> Urcl:/join ubuntu
[09:10] <borite1> urcl: type /join #ubuntu
[09:10] <Urcl> yes but its not opening
[09:11] <Urcl> i even use #ubuntu and added it to my favourites channels
[09:12] <borite1> urcl: you have to type it from your ubutnu or freenode tab
[09:12] <borite1> and not from an other channel's tab
[09:15] <Urcl> #ubuntu unable to join channel (address is banned)
[09:15] <borite1> can you tell me why kdetv says why kdetv says: cannot detect video signal?
[09:15] <poison--> !samba
[09:15] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:15] <dhq> when is gutsy release
[09:16] <dhq> !schedule
[09:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:16] <nosrednaekim> borite1: is your capture card working?
[09:16] <borite1> urcl: maybe you have been banned from that channel??
[09:16] <borite1> nosrednaekim: my tv card is working in windows
[09:17] <nosrednaekim> fortunately ( or inyu case, possibly unfortunately) windows is not linux.
[09:17] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | borite1
[09:17] <ubotu> borite1: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:17] <nosrednaekim> look up your hardware on that list
[09:17] <borite1> yeah my card is supported in linux
[09:17] <borite1> its pinnacle pctv pro
[09:17] <Urcl> I never enter it before
[09:18] <borite1> I use ubuntu but I also installed kdetv, coz I like it
[09:18] <selfsearcher[] > borite1: Pinnacle shoult work fine with MythTV or similar... many years ago, I used it
[09:19] <dhq> when is the exact date for gutsy
[09:19] <bazhang> 10/18
[09:19] <borite1> selfsarcher: no mythTV doesn't support my card, but generally linux and so kdetv does
[09:19] <borite1> as I know and read about it
[09:19] <selfsearcher[] > i'm not holding my breath. I'll wait because the beta was... too beta. :D
[09:20] <borite1> I have installed more distributions and even ubuntu more times, and sometimes it worked sometimes not
[09:20] <nosrednaekim> dhq: 18th
[09:20] <nosrednaekim> of this omnth
[09:20] <ScorpKing> hiya poison--
[09:20] <oxyman> anybody knows an audio player like xmms, but for kde? it should be lightweight ( = not amarok)
[09:21] <poison--> yooooooo Scorpio
[09:21] <poison--> had to reinstall my kubuntu box ScorpKing
[09:21] <poison--> crap
[09:21] <ScorpKing> hehe
[09:21] <poison--> after a reboot i couldnt get to X
[09:21] <ScorpKing> :(
[09:21] <poison--> said couldnt find some fonts
[09:22] <dhq> cool
[09:22] <ScorpKing> lol. what did you change before it broke?
[09:22] <dhq> oxyman, amarok the best
[09:22] <ScorpKing> oxyman: i use xmms in kde
[09:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> xmms is obsolete anyway
[09:22] <selfsearcher[] > there is also a "Parted magic" love CD out there... incredible lol
[09:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> if you must got the winamp clone route, check out audacity
[09:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> go*
[09:23] <oxyman> amarok is not a lightweight application and xmms depends on gtk libraries
[09:23] <ScorpKing> audacity use more resources than xmms tho. it doesn't run too well on my box
[09:26] <JuJuBee> nosrednaekim : sorry, I had a parent come in to see me... (im a teacher).
[09:26] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing: try Exaile
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> JuJuBee: :) what was the problem again?
[09:27] <JuJuBee> I tried the os drivers included with ubuntu and couldn't get my desktop to display correctly,so i tried to insallt the proprietary ones and no luck there either.
[09:27] <ScorpKing> will do. ty
[09:27] <Thomasu> hi is here a guy who can help me??
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> JuJuBee: the proprietary drivers from where?
[09:27] <selfsearcher[] > Thomasu it depends: the question ?
[09:28] <ScorpKing> Thomasu: there might be.
[09:28] <JuJuBee> Sorry,crashed kopete...
[09:28] <TheDude> so why cant you su on kubuntu?
[09:28] <JuJuBee> The ATi site
[09:28] <nosrednaekim> TheDude: root account is disabled by defualt... use sudo -i instead
[09:28] <selfsearcher[] > TheDude: sudo is the answer
[09:28] <Thomasu> i have kubuntu and that is on english can i get over to danish ???
[09:29] <nosrednaekim> Thomasu: you didn't choose danish as your language when you installed?
[09:29] <Thomasu> yes
[09:29] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing: little underpowered there
[09:29] <selfsearcher[] > Thomasu "K"Menu --> Control Center --> Regional Settings (if I'm not wrong)
[09:29] <JuJuBee> norednaekim : I downloaded the drivers from ATI and gave them a test drive...still no luck.  I just want to get back to the start again .  I am afraid I have made so many changes they may be fighting each other.
[09:29] <TheDude> so does sudo -i have the same privilages as root?
[09:30] <TheDude> sudo
[09:30] <nosrednaekim> TheDude: mostly..
[09:30] <deviance> There are alot of deathmatch style first person shooters, but are there any terrorst vs cops, like cs?
[09:30] <Thomasu> ther can i only chose english not danish
[09:30] <nosrednaekim> TheDude: about the only thing you can't do is change frequency governors.(as far as i've found)
[09:30] <nosrednaekim> W00T!!! over 400 people!!
[09:30] <TheDude> so I can still patch modules, make installs etc?
[09:31] <nosrednaekim> TheDude: oh yeah.
[09:31] <TheDude> lot more to type then su
[09:31] <nosrednaekim> TheDude: if you encounter something you can't do... just enable root.
[09:31] <nosrednaekim> 5 characters ?
[09:31] <Thomasu> what can i do ??
[09:31] <ScorpKing> TheDude: sudo su will give you root
[09:31] <nosrednaekim> TheDude: like any good programmer, you are lazy ;)
[09:32] <TheDude> :)
[09:32] <elkang|away> Thomasu: you need to install danish.. its at the same place (regional settings)
[09:32] <TheDude> sudo su is still a lot to type ;)
[09:33] <elkang|away> on the bottom somewehre .... install new language
[09:33] <Thomasu> i get error when i try
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> what error
[09:33] <elkang|away> what error?
[09:33] <TheDude> adept updater is sllooooowwwwww...
[09:33] <selfsearcher[] > Thomasu: "K" --> Control Center --> Language etc... --> Upper Right button --> Select your region (north Europe?) then Danish
[09:34] <ScorpKing> oxyman: google for - lightweight audio players for linux - there is a few links that comes up.
[09:34] <DaSkreech> oxyman: how about xmms?
[09:34] <Thomasu> Command 'qt-language-selector --mode install' not found.
[09:35] <selfsearcher[] > Thomasu: if it gives you an error, before changing the language select the "danish support" for KDE (a package i think)
[09:35] <DaSkreech> deviance: sure
[09:35] <TheDude> !menu
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <deviance> Like?
[09:35] <selfsearcher[] > Thomasu: sorry but I'm lost. Did you install kubuntu or simply the KDE?
[09:36] <Thomasu> i install LInuxMce
[09:36] <DaSkreech> deviance: Assault or something like that
[09:36] <TheDude> heh, I will be drunk before adept updater gets done....reminds me of windows
[09:37] <DaSkreech> TheDude: try apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[09:37] <Thomasu> http://linuxmce.com/
[09:37] <uga> TheDude: salad, roasted chicken and choc cake
[09:37] <selfsearcher[] > Thomasu: ok but before using danish, you have to install the support for danish language. Try to find it with your package manager. I use Ubuntu + Kubuntu
[09:38] <deviance> Hmm, DaSkreech wherecan I find it
[09:38] <ScorpKing> oxyman: http://www.vorbis.com/software/#linux
[09:38] <TheDude> so using apt via console will see better transfer rates then throught the updater?
[09:38] <deviance> Ive google assault but nothing
[09:38] <DaSkreech> deviance: getdeb.net
[09:38] <DaSkreech> !games
[09:38] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:38] <nosrednaekim> TheDude: no.... if you want better throughput, switch to another mirror
[09:38] <deviance> Assault CUbe
[09:38] <deviance> Cube*
[09:38] <deviance> Dont I need the Cube origional
[09:39] <DaSkreech> deviance: that's it
[09:39] <DaSkreech> I don't think so
[09:39] <Thomasu> i think i use the same
[09:39] <deviance> Okay
[09:39] <DaSkreech> deviance: You could install Unreal
[09:39] <selfsearcher[] > Thomasu let me search... one second
[09:39] <carwash^> how can i specify apt to get a package from a specific repository (i want the medibuntuversion of ffmpeg)
[09:39] <deviance> Its woulnt be to fast
[09:39] <Thomasu> ok
[09:40] <deviance> I have it on another machine with TO:Crossfire, a CS style mod
[09:40] <DaSkreech> I love TO
[09:40] <uga> @magic8ball: when will gutsy be released?
[09:41] <uga> shame, ubotu doesnt' respond to those? :P
[09:41] <stdin> uga: when I say so :p
[09:41] <selfsearcher[] > Thomasu try a "sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-da"
[09:41] <uga> stdin: ah shame, only enabled on -offtopic channel, it seems
[09:41] <uga> heh
[09:41] <stdin> uga: no, it's gone all together for now
[09:41] <uga> oh shame
[09:41] <uga> it's a useful feature =)
[09:42] <stdin> blame Seveas, it's always his fault
[09:42] <selfsearcher[] > Thomasu please use the terminal so it gives you the errors
[09:42] <uga> stdin: lol
[09:42] <TheDude> heh, will adept patch my hosap module for injection? just a joke
[09:43] <uga> stdin: you were right :/
[09:43] <uga> tried in -offtopic and didn't respond
[09:43] <stdin> uga: you were surprised I was right?!?!? ;)
[09:43] <uga> no, I just hoped for once you were wrong
[09:44] <stdin> the earth didn't stop spinning, so there was no chance :p
[09:44] <Thomasu> linuxmce@dcerouter:~$ sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-da
[09:44] <Thomasu> Reading package lists... Done
[09:44] <Thomasu> Building dependency tree
[09:44] <Thomasu> Reading state information... Done
[09:44] <Thomasu> E: Couldn't find package language-pack-kde-da
[09:44] <uga> stdin: so what will be the next lottery number. quick! =)
[09:45] <stdin> uga: 2
[09:45] <uga> and hopes for earth not to stop spinning
[09:45] <phillipe> Temalgum brasileiro ai gente?:)
[09:45] <TheDude> I like pclinuxos apt manager better
[09:45] <stdin> !br | phillipe
[09:45] <ubotu> phillipe: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:45] <uga> !pt | phillipe
[09:45] <uga> oh
[09:45] <uga> too late
[09:45] <stdin> :)
[09:45] <selfsearcher[] > Thomasu use Synaptic. Enable main universe restricted multiverse repositories in the Preferences (sry but mine is in italian)
[09:45] <uga> ubotu: lazy bot =)
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lazy bot =) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <nosrednaekim> TheDude: you can get if you want it... its called "synaptic"
[09:46] <nosrednaekim> TheDude: its what ubuntu uses
[09:46] <selfsearcher[] > then Thomasu retry the apt command
[09:46] <Thomasu> how ?
[09:46] <uga> ubotu stdin's sister
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stdin's sister - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <uga> heh
[09:46] <TheDude> ya I thought so...it looked very similar
[09:46] <nosrednaekim> TheDude: thats what I personally use
[09:46] <selfsearcher[] > Thomasu "K" --> System --> ...Synaptic
[09:46] <Thomasu> what shall i wrigte
[09:47] <nosrednaekim> selfsearcher[] : he won't have that
[09:47] <stdin> uga: huwah?
[09:47] <uga> stdin: hey, I was testing if the bot was clever enough to give me the phone no
[09:47] <selfsearcher[] > nosrednaekim: lol no ? hmm....
[09:47] <nosrednaekim> thats a ubuntu thing.. tis called adept manager in Kubuntu
[09:47] <TheDude> its more strait forward
[09:48] <selfsearcher[] > Thomasu try a "sudo apt-get install synaptic" if it works
[09:48] <selfsearcher[] > I'm a bit lost with Adept. I use it only for updates
[09:48] <selfsearcher[] > THomasu sorry I installed too much WM... Gnome + KDE
[09:48] <TheDude> ohh...now worries....im installing it now :)
[09:48] <Thomasu> linuxmce@dcerouter:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:49] <Thomasu> Reading package lists... Done
[09:49] <Thomasu> Building dependency tree
[09:49] <Thomasu> Reading state information... Done
[09:49] <Thomasu> Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:49] <Thomasu> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:49] <Thomasu> is only available from another source
[09:49] <Thomasu> E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[09:49] <Thomasu> linuxmce@dcerouter:~$
[09:50] <selfsearcher[] > Thomasu sorry I cannot help you at this point. At least, not without messing with the repositories... and I don't know your ditribution
[09:50] <bazhang> linuxmce
[09:50] <selfsearcher[] > good riddance Thomasu
[09:50] <nosrednaekim> selfsearcher[] : hey!
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> !coc | selfsearcher[]
[09:51] <ubotu> selfsearcher[] : The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:51] <boggystudios> how do I get wireless networks to show in knetworkmanager?
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> *not* appropriate.
[09:51] <Thomasu> thanks
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> hey nosrednaekim
[09:51] <selfsearcher[] > nosrednaekim: is "good riddance" a bad conduct? LOL
[09:51] <selfsearcher[] > didn't know.
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> boggystudios: what does "iwlist <network device> scan" say?
[09:51] <deviance> Is synaptic better than adept, Ive heard alot of people saying it is
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> selfsearcher[] : certainly is... its rude.
[09:51] <stdin> selfsearcher[] : actually, it is
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: hey
[09:52] <selfsearcher[] > rude? Maybe my english is worse then... didn't jnow


[01:39] <plshelp> hey i tried to wipe a drive with the livecd i had but i keep getting an error
[01:39] <plshelp> on my mac it was "unable to write to the last block of the device"
[01:40] <plshelp> now it's "Input/output error (udisks-error-quark, 0)"
[01:40] <wxl> sorry not getting it plshelp (hehe) what are you trying to do with what how?
[01:42] <plshelp> trying to wipe/reformat an external hdd because it had permissions
[01:43] <plshelp> i read on a forum that linux could maybe finish formatting when mac couldn't
[01:43] <wxl> so you're trying to use a lubuntu livecd (which version?) on a mac (what type?) to format an external hdd (usb or firewire?) using what specific software? and what do you mean by "permissions?"
[01:47] <wxl> also plshelp this may be relevant https://askubuntu.com/questions/377253/unable-to-format-usb-drive-with-disks-udisks-error-quark-0
[02:29] <plshelp> 16.10 on late 2011 mbp (and then ibm thinkpad t43 w/ livecd) using usb2 a to b to hp personal media drive hd0000
[02:30] <plshelp> using accessories > disks on lubuntu
[02:37] <plshelp> um. how do i unmount the drive in lubuntu? sorry i'm disadvantaged
[02:46] <plshelp> Error formatting disk Error creating file system: Command-line 'parted -script "/dev/sdb" mktable msdos' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Error: (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[02:48] <lynorian> plshelp, is this 16 MB or is it bigger?
[02:53] <plshelp> 120gb hdd


[16:06] <Trevinho> hey, I'm still not getting emails for some upload (errors I guess) to ci-train PPAs...
[16:21] <cjwatson> Trevinho: hm, starting when?
[16:21] <Trevinho> cjwatson: I got it in the past, but looks like I'm getting it again now
[16:21] <Trevinho> not sure when it started, last night I think I got an "accepted" email
[16:22] <Trevinho> so during the night I got some reijections
[16:24] <cjwatson> Trevinho: Any chance of seeing some headers with Received lines?
[16:26] <Trevinho> cjwatson: so this is the one I got last night https://www.pastery.net/nntgbp/
[16:26] <Trevinho> the last one I got
[16:33] <cjwatson> Trevinho: That one is a bit unusual since it's a binary rejection, so comes from a different machine
[16:33] <cjwatson> (because the archive was apparently disabled before all the builds finished, or something)
[16:34] <Trevinho> cjwatson: that sure... But the one I should have got (and not received) should be a mismatch of orig size with the expected one
[16:34] <cjwatson> Trevinho: IS has found a missing bit of configuration after we moved the PPA publisher yesterday, and is fixing it
[16:34] <Trevinho> as I noticed it in deb-o-matic
[16:34] <Trevinho> ok
[16:40] <cjwatson> Trevinho: You should hopefully start getting emails as the queue clears
[16:40] <Trevinho> cjwatson: cool
[16:40] <Trevinho> ah just got one :)
[16:40] <Trevinho> acceptance, but still was blocked as well
[22:14] <Aaron> hey I have a question what's the purpose for translating for Ubuntu. if when I make a contribution they give me the points on launchpad and after a while, points come down. Why is that?
[22:18] <cjwatson> Karma is just a very (very!) rough measure of how active people have been recently.  It's not intended to be a system where you can rack up points permanently.
[22:18] <cjwatson> The purpose of translating for Ubuntu would be to make translations better, not to accumulate karma points.
[22:19] <cjwatson> https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/Karma
[22:26] <Aaron> is retard it that's why I end it up not translating any longer.
[22:27] <cjwatson> That's up to you.
[22:28] <Aaron> no joke.
[23:00] <RikMills> o_O


[00:11] <dean_> there's synth plugin #1 - like #20 somethin lol
[00:12] <dean_> it says I have hexter downloaded in the terminal but it doesn't show it there
[00:13] <dean_> nevermind got it working :D
[00:33] <dean_> I assume you can use a midi keyboard with ZynAddSubFX?
[00:40] <Pablo1> Yes
[00:41] <Pablo1> Use patchage or qjackctl to make connections in the alsa (=alsa midi) tab
[00:42] <Pablo1> I mean: in qjackctl, alsa tab. In patchage, green connections
[08:58] <meadhikari> i do not create music nor I am a designer but i really liked the screenshot of ubuntustudio am I thinking right of replacing Ubuntu 10.10 by ubuntustudio
[20:03] <thomasevd> having problems with usb logitech headset any solutions? thnx
[21:33] <holstein> hey thomasevd
[21:33] <holstein> plug it in
[21:33] <holstein> run lsusb in a terminal
[21:34] <holstein> see if you see the device listed
[21:34] <holstein> if you do, run
[21:34] <holstein> aplay -l
[21:34] <holstein> see if you see it there
[21:34] <thomasevd> thanks will try
[21:34] <holstein> and let us know... and we'll go from there
[21:36] <thomasevd> ok it shows up as card 4:
[21:37] <thomasevd> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 046d:0a0b Logitech, Inc. ClearChat Pro USB
[21:37] <holstein> thats good news
[21:38] <holstein> what about
[21:38] <holstein> aplay -l
[21:38] <holstein> there too?
[21:38] <thomasevd> yup
[21:39] <thomasevd> card 4: Headset [Logitech USB Headset], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
[21:39] <holstein> that usually means its 'use-able'
[21:39] <holstein> what are you trying to do with it?
[21:39] <thomasevd> anything really
[21:39] <holstein> if i were doing something normal
[21:40] <holstein> like skype or something
[21:40] <thomasevd> I use mobile pre usb for sound out
[21:40] <holstein> i would probably just try and choose it in the gnome sound manager
[21:40] <holstein> in pulse
[21:40] <holstein> if i were using JACK
[21:40] <thomasevd> but for editing, twinkle etc its useful to have phones ..
[21:40] <holstein> i would just select it like you did the mobile pre in JACK
[21:40] <holstein> IF you want to use multiple cards in JACK
[21:41] <holstein> you'll have to ask over in #opensourcemusicians
[21:41] <holstein> i know a couple guys there do that
[21:41] <holstein> i would probably just choose it in JACK
[21:41] <thomasevd> ok when i select it in soundmanager nothing happens ..
[21:41] <holstein> and try something with it
[21:41] <holstein> thomasevd: when you select it in soundmanager
[21:42] <holstein> what app are you trying to use?
[21:42] <holstein> maybe audacity?
[21:42] <holstein> or something easy...
[21:43] <thomasevd> ok so sound preferences select ClearChat
[21:43] <thomasevd> trying to play something in mplayer and no sound ...
[21:43] <thomasevd> works when i select back to M-Audio
[21:45] <holstein> interesting...
[21:46] <thomasevd> headset works fine with anything on my windows netbook ...
[21:46] <holstein> so we know the hardware works..
[21:47] <thomasevd> hm in sound preferences ..
[21:48] <thomasevd> clearchat does not show a speaker icon, while m-aduio etc. does
[21:48] <thomasevd> don't know if that has any meaning ..
[21:49] <holstein> OK
[21:49] <holstein> so you got 4 cards then?
[21:49] <thomasevd> yup
[21:49] <holstein> internal, the maudio, this head set, and?
[21:49] <thomasevd> one sec
[21:51] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601177
[21:51] <holstein> ^^ read that
[21:51] <holstein> dont do it yet though
[21:51] <thomasevd> listed as internal auio
[21:51] <thomasevd> ok
[21:51] <holstein> let me keep looking...
[21:52] <thomasevd> yeah i saw that ...
[21:52] <thomasevd> funny thing is before i was ubuntustudio, i had a straight debian installation
[21:52] <thomasevd> and it worked fine ...
[21:54] <holstein> hmmm
[21:55] <holstein> i dont really know what to do
[21:55] <holstein> unless we get into kernels
[21:55] <thomasevd> hm me neither
[21:55] <holstein> this really isnt an ubuntustudio thing though
[21:55] <holstein> so you could 'cast a wider net'
[21:55] <thomasevd> hm I understand
[21:56] <holstein> #opensourcmusicians too
[21:56] <thomasevd> I will keep an eye on the forum thread ...
[21:56] <holstein> lots of smart guys over there
[21:56] <thomasevd> ok thanks for all your help
[21:56] <holstein> good luck
[22:40] <thomasevd> groan! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469276
[22:41] <thomasevd> settings  where set at 0 for some reason on alsa mixer ....
[23:42] <ScottL> if he was talking about what i think, it's set at 0 to prevent people from blowing speakers


[12:04] <buhtz> s upstream maintainer of "Back In Time" I would like to ask for translation of a small 100-word text (not the whole application GUI!). The text is addressed to my users asking them contributing to the translation. :) "Slovenian" can be found here: https://translate.codeberg.org/translate/backintime/common/si/?q=hello


[06:00] <hikiko> Hi
[06:56] <pitti> Good morning
[07:02] <happyaron> morning hikiko seb128 pitti
[07:02]  * happyaron tries to press Tab while typing 'morning'...
[07:02] <hikiko> hello happyaron pitti seb128
[07:03] <pitti> hey happyaron, hey hikiko, how are you?
[07:08] <seb128> hey desktop, pitti happyaron hikiko
[07:08] <pitti> bonjour seb128 !
[07:21] <Sweet5hark> moin
[07:23] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark
[07:24] <Sweet5hark> seb128: heya
[07:28] <seb128> k, I'm having slightly shifted hours today, need to go for some hours
[07:28] <seb128> bbl
[09:03] <Laney> hi hi!
[09:03] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you?
[09:05] <Laney> pitti: great, thanks!
[09:05] <Laney> I can see zero clouds, and we're off for a long weekend tomorrow
[09:06] <Laney> feeeeeeeelin' good
[09:06] <Laney> how are you?
[09:07] <pitti> Laney: oh, I got a bit of a heart attack when you said "zero clouds"
[09:08] <pitti> Laney: quite well indeed! we saw a great show last night with the "Berlin Comedian Harmonists"
[09:08] <pitti> (singing the songs of the real Comedian Harmonists from the 1930s)
[09:08]  * pitti looks out of the garden, sees 10 cm of snow, and more is coming
[09:10] <Laney> cloud paranoia!
[09:11] <Laney> Calculating upgrade... Done
[09:11] <Laney> The following packages will be REMOVED: libpam-systemd systemd
[09:11] <Laney> The following NEW packages will be installed: init-system-helpers
[09:11] <Laney> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:11] <darkxst> Hey Laney pitti
[09:11] <pitti> err, what?
[09:11] <Laney> I don't understand this dist-upgrade (on my server, squeeze)
[09:11] <Laney> someone explain how that can happen please
[09:11] <Laney> :)
[09:11] <Laney> hi darkxst!
[09:11] <alexarnaud> hello everybody!
[09:11] <Laney> hey alexarnaud
[09:12] <alexarnaud> Does anyone know when lightdm implements a11y feature like hight contrast?
[09:33]  * darkxst slaps didrocks for breaking our plymouth theme! he got all the other flavours right ;(
[09:58] <Chipaca`> why does unity now insert new apps at random in the launcher? I've gotten used to <super>-N being an app I've locked there, and now transient apps are appearing at #1 and moving everything around :-(
[10:23] <Sweet5hark> doctors appointment bbl
[10:27] <Laney> Chipaca: xenial?
[10:27] <Chipaca> Laney, xenial.
[10:27] <Chipaca> unity 7 obvs
[10:27] <Laney> totes
[10:27] <Laney> Is it since the update yesterday?
[10:28] <Chipaca> Laney, no, I think it's from earlier
[10:28] <Chipaca> just was in the right place to figure out if it's a bug or a feature right now
[10:31] <Laney> Wonder why it doesn't happen for me
[10:31] <Laney> sounds annoying anyway
[10:31] <Laney> I'd file it and see what T_revinho or a_ndyrock have to say
[10:32] <Chipaca> will do
[10:40] <Chipaca> Laney, bug 1549730 fwiw
[10:40] <ubot5`> bug 1549730 in unity (Ubuntu) "launcher inserts new apps at #1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1549730
[10:41] <Chipaca> now doing the ubuntu-bug thing
[10:41] <Laney> neat
[11:54] <desrt> saluton, homoj!
[12:06]  * xnox feels like packaging guru "10 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 121 deletions(-)"
[12:11] <pitti> xnox: moved to "dh"? :-)
[12:11] <xnox> yeah, and things like that.
[12:12] <xnox> pitti, i wonder why we install plymouth on s390x.
[12:13] <xnox> surely, "just" systemd should be good enough, no?
[12:14] <pitti> xnox: dunno, slightly more pretty boot screen/fsck/password input?
[12:17] <xnox> ..... on serial consoles. i don't think so.
[12:17] <seb128> back
[12:47] <Sweet5hark> back
[12:48] <Laney> FRONT
[12:54] <seb128> left
[13:00] <Laney> seb128: can you take care of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream-data/+bug/1548157 please?
[13:00] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1548157 in appstream-data (Ubuntu) "Remove appstream-data from Ubuntu (xenial)" [Undecided,New]
[13:00]  * Laney didn't know that this had been done
[13:00] <seb128> Laney, sure can ... should we have something conflicting/breaking it to make sure it gets removed from installed systems?
[13:01] <Laney> I guess the kde discover thing could do that
[13:03]  * Laney commented
[13:05] <seb128> thanks
[13:05] <seb128> Laney, oh, you merged gtk, I hope I didn't do the update while you were already on it (/me hates wasting work)
[13:06] <Laney> sort of but I dropped some extra deltas so it wasn't all bad
[13:06] <Laney> the update part itself was trivial
[13:11]  * Laney goes to lunch it up
[13:11] <seb128> Laney, enjoy!
[13:44] <andyrock> Trevinho: https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/unity/format-option/+merge/283741 review
[13:45] <Trevinho> thanks
[15:02] <Laney> dodgy
[15:02] <Laney> fridge door just almost fell off /o\
[15:04] <Laney> #workingfromhomeproblems
[15:04] <seb128> :-/
[15:05] <Laney> fixed now I think/hope
[15:07] <pitti> Laney: you're working in your *fridge*??
[15:07] <pitti> well, given how cold it is again I have the feeling that I do too, thouhg :)
[15:07] <Laney> it is where my fuel comes from
[15:07]  * Laney has *white* tea :-o
[15:09] <pitti> Laney: ah I see, you have a different engine type then :) Mine is powered by chocolate bars and gummy bears
[15:13] <mvo> Laney: white tea, *yummy*
[15:15]  * Laney hugs mvo
[15:35] <seb128> Laney, not sure if you saw/replied to my comment from yesterday about g-s not listing evince ... any idea of that's g-s side or appstream one?
[15:35] <Laney> it's installed?
[15:37] <seb128> yes
[15:37] <seb128> but searching for it doesn't return it
[15:37] <seb128> the debug log states it's filtered out because it's a duplicate
[15:37] <seb128> which I don't understand
[15:38] <seb128> but there are other evince .desktop for specific mimetypes, I wonder if that can create confusion?
[15:38] <seb128> does it list it for you?
[15:39] <Laney> no, those are NoDisplay so they are ignored
[15:40] <seb128> (gnome-software:4452): Gs-DEBUG: ignoring duplicate evince.desktop
[15:40] <seb128> but it doesn't say what it's duplicate from
[15:41] <seb128> do you know how that dup logic is working?
[15:41] <Laney> duplicate of what?
[15:41] <Laney> no, that's on the gnome-software side
[15:42] <Laney> it works on that old version
[15:42] <Laney> same one as the uninstalled apps work on
[15:50] <seb128> roooobeeeerrrt
[15:58] <Laney> :)
[17:05] <tjaalton> seb128: the nvidia xserver bug has been fixed on the ppa, so it's good for migration. but I'm off today so let's do it early next week
[17:05] <tjaalton> off tomorrow I mean
[17:05] <seb128> tjaalton, wfm!
[17:30] <Laney> pitti: any idea what's up with adt/nemo/armhf?
[17:30] <Laney> could it be that cyclops-024 is down and took it? can't ssh to that one anyway
[17:30]  * seb128 shakes the fist at gtk
[17:31] <seb128> another incompatible change in gtk 3.18 creating issues for nautilus :-/
[17:31] <Laney> doh
[18:05] <Laney> off until tuesday, don't (do) break stuff!
[18:06] <Laney> would be good if adt/nemo/armhf could be unwedged per my last ping
[18:06] <Laney> byeeeeeeeEEEeeeEEeeeEEeeeEEeee
[18:11] <seb128> Laney, oh, right, enjoy your long w.e!
[18:12] <seb128> it's going to be quiet around here tomorrow...


[03:16] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[07:20] <marcoagpinto> Morning!
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> hey marcoagpinto
[07:21] <marcoagpinto> hey hey hey
[07:21] <marcoagpinto> :)
[07:22] <marcoagpinto> the good news is that the Professor kind of approved the most recent version of the thesis :) although I haven't finished it yet, and he said we will have a final version together :p
[07:23] <marcoagpinto> this "together" means we will spend a full day doing other things and in 5 minutes at the end the Professor will tell me what to add
[07:23] <marcoagpinto> :p
[07:47] <ducasse> good morning
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> hey TJ-
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: i was looking at this the other day aswell, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=394836
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399056
[11:04] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I saw those; that's related to not having the required media codec/container libraries installed
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> kk
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> so the mystery not solved yet?
[11:06] <TJ-> no - not had chance to revisit it so far
[11:07] <TJ-> was just looking for a QCAD channel but there doesn't seem to be one
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> im not gonna ask it :p
[11:19] <TJ-> not a bug - an /operator/ question for once :)
[11:23] <daftykins> TJ-: heya \o what do you use for convenient central update pushes to fleets of servers etc? I've given up on Landscape
[11:30] <TJ-> currently customised but... we're developing a much easier alternative to Kubernetes et al, with the configuration currently using Ansible groups
[11:34] <daftykins> hmm sounds like more work than i'm prepared to do :D i checked out cockpit but it doesn't combine all the updates into one view, just gives you the per-system view


[01:00] <gduarte> ogra: are you there?
[01:03] <gduarte> someonte interested in a pre-built VM  of Ubuntu karmic to compile/build/whatever your projects?
[01:03] <gduarte> *someone
[01:04] <gduarte> :S
[01:05] <gduarte> if someone wants it
[01:05] <gduarte> there is http://w3.impa.br/~gabrield/data/ubuntu-arm-development-rootfs.tar.bz2
[01:05] <gabrield> enjoy
[03:18] <ojn> Nice work on getting beagle going, guys.
[03:19] <ojn> Since OMAP can handle multi-board kernels, are there any plans on enabling some of the other options? ZOOM2/3 and gumstix are the ones that come to mind.    When is UDS?
[03:39] <Martyn> Yes .. I'm _still_ trying to reflash that damned lange board, even though I have three tegra2 boards, and more Cortex-A9 action than a small manufacturer
[03:40] <Martyn> I'll be out in europe from May 6 - 17th
[03:40] <ojn> 'k. I can probably drop something off (in NORTH austin) on the weekend. I don't know if I'm just home over the weekend or for the week yet. Too hard to plan much right now, given recent events
[03:44] <ojn> Martyn: Why are you picking up competitor's boards, btw? I thought you guys were developing your own SoC? Or have you switched to a plan B?
[03:45] <Martyn> Because I hack them apart, and turn them into what I need
[03:45] <Martyn> and I learn from them, of course
[03:45] <Martyn> Making linux better, faster, harder.
[03:45] <Martyn> (and in our case, much more power efficient on servers)
[03:45] <Martyn> nVidia is the first good example (tegra250) of a low power consumption A9 .. in a good process (45nm)
[03:46] <Martyn> I also recently got a quad-core A9 board from (undisclosable company)
[03:46] <ojn> Yeah, ok. It's just been my experience in the past that competing vendors are less than excited to sell you eval boards if you're going to compete. I guess you're aiming for different markets so they might be less restrictive.
[03:46] <Martyn> and that thing was made at Global Foundries .. in the 28nm process.   I think thats the way ARM chips will have to go.   2Ghz
[03:47] <Martyn> yeah, they don't care
[03:47] <Martyn> Or care much.  Also there are strategic alliances between our company and ARM that smooth the way
[03:47] <ojn> Yeah, it's a bit different than the PPC landscape
[03:47] <ojn> more small players too
[03:47] <ojn> etc
[11:40] <saeed> NCommander: ping
[12:20] <saeed> orga: hey
[13:20] <persia> saeed: Unless it's a private matter of some sort, you might ask a question generally.  No promises anyone can answer, but maybe :)
[13:21] <saeed> persia: hey
[13:21]  * saeed recalls what I wanted to ask
[13:22] <saeed> persia: I've prepare cofnig file for the fw_printenv
[13:22] <saeed> for dove db
[13:22] <persia> And you want to share it in hopes it gets into Ubuntu?
[13:23] <persia> I'd recommend filing a bug and attaching it.  That's usually the best way to track that sort of thing.
[13:23] <saeed> ok
[13:24] <saeed> peria: the fw config file is board specific
[13:24] <saeed> does the ubuntu loads the proper file depending on the board it runs on?
[13:25] <persia> I don't know offhand, but I suspect it can be made to do so.
[13:26] <persia> If it doesn't already, I'm unsure if the release managers would let it be made to do so for release in geneal, but it may be possible to do something special for just the dove image.
[13:27] <saeed> ok
[13:28] <saeed> btw, I fixed the slow ext2load in uboot, now it can load image + initrd in just 2 seconds
[13:28] <saeed> from sata
[13:39] <persia> Cool!
[13:40] <persia> I was looking at QNAP's server lineups yesterday, and building greater and greater anticipation for something that does ARMv7 :)
[14:11] <lool> saeed: ATM, we generate a config file during installation
[14:11] <lool> saeed: fast ext2load > cool!
[14:12] <saeed> lool: great, I'll upload the dove db config file
[14:13] <lool> saeed: apt-get source flash-kernel, see debian/flash-kernel-installer.postinst
[14:13] <lool> that's what it does for beagleboard ATM at least
[14:33] <saeed> lool: how should I report a bug for the flash-kernel? in launchpad it's said theat flash-kernel does not use Launchpad as its bug tracker
[14:35] <gabrield> ogra: did you see the changes at ARM/RootfsFromScratch?
[14:36] <lool> saeed: You need to report it against the Ubuntu package
[14:36] <lool> saeed: From an ubuntu system with flash-kernel, "ubuntu-bug flash-kernel"
[14:36] <persia> saeed: You need to use flash-kernel (Ubuntu): https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flash-kernel/+bugs.  The easiest way is probably `ubuntu-bug flash-kernel`
[18:37] <NCommander> saeed: pong
[20:28] <samuel_Sayag> hi,
[20:28] <samuel_Sayag> I'm looking for consol image displayer
[20:28] <samuel_Sayag> is there such a program ?
[20:34] <persia> Not really, on the raw console.
[20:34] <persia> svgalib can do some stuff like that.
[20:34] <persia> But that's accessing the framebuffer, rather than the console, as such.
[20:44] <samuel_Sayag> and what if i only load the X, can I then load just an Image ?
[20:44] <samuel_Sayag> I remmber that on the dos i had some image viewers ...
[20:51] <DanaG> mplayer can access framebuffer.
[20:56] <persia> vlc has an svgalib plugin as well.  zgv seems to be a dedicated image viewer.
[21:49] <jkridner> I finally tried the beagleboard netbook install today.
[21:49] <jkridner> I need to run to get a flash drive still.
[21:51] <persia> jkridner: How did it work for you?
[21:51] <jkridner> Despite the warnings, I tried to partition the installation disk (SD card) with the installer, but it complained about not being able to unmount /cdrom.  I thought it might stop me, but in creating the layout, but it didn't fail until the actual install attempt.
[21:51] <jkridner> Going to see if I can find a nice USB flash drive now to use.
[21:52] <jkridner> not sure exactly how that will work.
[21:52] <jkridner> since u-boot doesn't currently read from USB flash drives.
[21:52] <persia> No, it lets you shoot yourself in the foot to enable careful aim for large shoes.  If you happen to have partitioned the SD card in a way that has an *extra* partition separate from the area used for the installer, you can use that for data.
[21:53] <persia> The common method seems to be to boot from SD card with boot options that mount / on a USB drive.
[21:53] <jkridner> it seemed to let me specify one, but the install failed.
[21:53] <persia> rotary drives work too, if you're just playing around.
[21:53] <jkridner> if rotary drives were smaller, that'd probably be the way I'd go.
[21:53] <jkridner> just that I'm on the road.
[21:53] <persia> The install to your install-SD bit might still be a bit buggy.  I'm not sure many people use it, and I think only one or two people are looking at it (and not very agressively).
[21:54] <persia> Yeah, if you're travelling, flash is nice and compact :)
[21:55] <persia> I did an install once to one of the USB in-plug microSD readers, which worked, which almost looks like you don't have something attached.
[21:55] <persia> (although that was on a different board, but similar situation)
[21:55] <jkridner> know anywhere to pick one up near the San Jose Convention Center?
[21:58] <persia> Sorry, no.
[22:00] <DanaG> san jose?  isn't there a "fry's" around there somewhere?
[22:01] <jkridner> there is.
[22:01] <jkridner> just wanting something in walking distance
[22:02] <DanaG> ah.
[22:02] <DanaG> you could ask google-maps for electronics stores.
[22:04] <persia> Doesn't have anything within 30 minutes walk (already tried that)
[22:14] <DanaG> Dang.


[00:34] <xnox> teward: so you want us to ship a statically linked qemu-x86_64-static + all the libs + rar on all other arches as /usr/bin/rar?
[00:34] <teward> xnox: nope, I'd rather just yank `rar` out of the repos :P
[00:34] <teward> leave unrar, but yank `rar` :P
[00:35] <teward> *has a small but nagging hatred for proprietary specs for archives*
[00:35] <teward> xnox: i don't want static linked chaos if we can avoid it, i was curious where the archs were defined if they originated from Debain or otherwise, thank you cjwatson for pointing at the info.  and then me reading the license.txt file made me cringe mroe
[00:35] <teward> since it's basically winrar >.<
[00:37] <teward> xnox: it was more or less a question of "why wasn't this on other archs" so when i dug and saw the license is basically WinRAR's license, among other things, I just shivered and said "well that explains it"
[00:37] <teward> :)
[00:38] <teward> no qemu-*-static please :P
[00:38] <teward> got enough to deal with already with lubuntu images for the RPi 400 :P
[00:38] <teward> and Wimpress not doing his duty on his tools and handling merge requests to things like desktopify (so > 20.04 can't be 'installed' for GUIs with their tool)
[00:39] <xnox> teward:  i don't know if the times have changed, but i think removing rar that will unleash the wrath of like all of ex-USSR countries.
[00:39] <teward> xnox: well, I know removing `unrar` will bring the equivalent of tactical nukes on us all
[00:39] <teward> but I usually dont' see questions about "how do i make rars"
[00:39] <teward> just sayin.
[00:40] <teward> i'd like to know how much this'd affect things but.
[00:40] <xnox> silent majority
[00:40] <xnox> note that rar is the same command on windows and linux, and well command not found correctly suggests to install it too.
[00:41] <teward> yeah and when that fails hardcore on the ports i bet there's some people whining :P
[00:41] <teward> (ERR: `rar` not found, but referenced in other packages.)
[00:41] <teward> *shrugs*
[00:46] <teward> of course to quote cjwatson: "I think means nobody should morally support this format."
[01:51] <lathiat> Seems the AMD64 desktop daily-live for hirsute hasn't updated since January 21.. the arm64 and server ones seem up to date: http://www.cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[01:52] <cjwatson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1918929
[01:52] <cjwatson> lathiat: ^
[01:54] <lathiat> thx cjwatson
[15:45] <rbasak> cjwatson: do you have an ETA on reviewing my changes file/rich history proposal please?
[20:06] <vorlon> sarnold: wrt grub efi bugs, I've backburnered this because I was getting nowhere on understanding the failures