[00:00] <pythonirc101> ubluntu: isn't there a gui to edit this
[00:00] <shawn1> not precisely
[00:00] <vsync_> but shawn1 do: cat /var/log/kern.log | grep fallen
[00:00] <shawn1> let me look at the log
[00:00] <html> robin0800,  i have no idea what to do with the info u gave me
[00:00] <shawn1> I entered  cat /var/log/kern.log | grep fallen and nothing happened
[00:00] <ubluntu> pythonirc101: im not really familiar with virtualbox but if it was an ati/nvidia card then yes...
[00:01] <vsync_> ok, so it's not a similar problem. But I never found a solution why it hardlocked. But I think it was faulty hardware.
[00:01] <vsync_> however, the solution to your "only one core" problem, could be to enable either SLI or MultiGPU mode in xorg.conf
[00:02] <pythonirc101> ubluntu: is there a sample somewhere for the xorg file?
[00:02] <vsync_> or alternatively you can have nvidia-xconfig to make the conf for you... you have to use a switch... check details with man nvidia-xconfig or nvidia-xconfig --help, and look for the multigpu or sli switch
[00:02] <ubluntu> pythonirc101: here is mine granted its for a regular install with two seperate video cards but you can see the layout here.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/789283/
[00:02] <L1nuxRules> happy new year (UTC) and Uk
[00:03] <vsync_> and oh shawn1 i suppose you are using proprietary drivers
[00:03] <yumbo> Happy new year, GMT-countries :)
[00:03] <shawn1> I tried SLI on and SLI off and neither worked
[00:03] <vsync_> try the multigpu
[00:03] <shawn1> where's that
[00:03] <shawn1> ?
[00:03] <vsync_> sec
[00:03] <L1nuxRules> This is the new year of the internet :)
[00:04] <L1nuxRules> internet time is UTc
[00:04] <shawn1> I'm not using any proprietary drivers on my system
[00:04] <pythonirc101> ubluntu: so I create two screens or two monitors as well?
[00:04] <vsync_> So you're using nouveau?
[00:04] <ubluntu> pythonirc101: two screens + two monitors I believe
[00:05] <vsync_> shawn1 ?
[00:05] <shawn1> uhmm
[00:05] <shawn1> NVidia accelerated graphics driver (current version)
[00:05] <shawn1> I'm using what Ubuntu automatically selected for my machine
[00:05] <vsync_> well, that is proprietary
[00:05] <shawn1> oh, okay
[00:05] <shawn1> is that part of the problem?
[00:06] <cypher-neo> Anyone here good with shell scripting? I have a couple questions.
[00:06] <vsync_> shawn1 no, the open source drivers are fubar as of now
[00:06] <L1nuxRules> shawn1 if your cards fairly new drivers probably wont support that card
[00:07] <L1nuxRules> or have nvidi drivers improved?
[00:07] <L1nuxRules> *a
[00:07] <shawn1> huh?
[00:07] <shawn1> I think I have a 270 version
[00:07] <shawn1> and I'm using a GTX 295 and a GTX 460 SE
[00:08] <urgh> HELLO ALL: HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!
[00:08] <vsync_> shawn1 you can get nvidia-xconfig to build the conf for you, run sudo nvidia-xconfig --multigpu=on
[00:08] <vsync_> and then just restart X to see whether it activates
[00:09] <tjiggi_fo> html, see your PM
[00:09] <shawn1> okay
[00:09] <shawn1> how do I restart X
[00:09] <shawn1> just 'restart X'
[00:09] <shawn1> ?
[00:09] <ubluntu> shawn1: sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[00:09] <vsync_> you can do it via services... sudo service Xdm restart
[00:09] <vsync_> replace Xdm with whatever display manager you use
[00:10] <milamber> !x
[00:10] <vsync_> obv he found a way
[00:12] <L1nuxRules> service kdm stop doesent seem to work on kubuntu though
[00:13] <vsync_> well there's initscripts still in place. Dunno if the whole service-system is just a frontend for initscripts
[00:13] <robin0800> L1nuxRules: did you use sudo?
[00:13] <vsync_> which would make no sense
[00:13] <L1nuxRules> robin0800 of course :)
[00:14] <L1nuxRules> robin0800 it was someone at work who overwrit my ubuntu install with kubuntu so might not be general
[00:15] <haylo> if you installed that kubuntu desktop just delelte everything
[00:15] <L1nuxRules> kubuntu had updated grub so although I hvent used kubuntu I suspect it should modify the boot loader?
[00:15] <L1nuxRules> kubuntu hadnt*
[00:15] <haylo> I know right? you dont want all that
[00:15] <robin0800> vsync_: its the change to upstart that has depreciated the initscripts
[00:15] <haylo> yeah it will mess with everything
[00:16] <haylo> just make a copy of your data and apps and reinstall
[00:16] <thebobwithquesti> looking to upgrade Freespire 2.0 based on shipjack fiesty to ubuntu 11.10...having install issues...is this the right forum
[00:17] <robin0800> L1nuxRules:a clean install is always to be preferred if possible
[00:17] <shawn1> Okay
[00:17] <L1nuxRules> so a reinstall is the only option to revert to ubuntu and not replace packages modify boot scripts etc, I havent had time to do that yet but thats the way I like to fix stuff :0
[00:17] <shawn1> it just left me with a blank screen
[00:17] <shawn1> so I turned it off
[00:18] <shawn1> and tried attaching one screen to each card
[00:18] <shawn1> then it started up
[00:19] <shawn1> it still only detects one core
[00:20] <haylo> L1nuxRules, yea you can get rid of that stuff but it si going to require some work to fully purge your system of the kde desktop
[00:21] <L1nuxRules> haylo cool I will take the long way its not my regular desktop and its triple booted , I like the real hacker life :)
[00:21] <haylo> yeah keep the install as long as you can
[00:22] <haylo> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop did nothing for me
[00:23] <L1nuxRules> haylo I tried stopping kde and starting gnome but iirc gnome told me it was already running and stopping kde it was still runnning
[00:23] <L1nuxRules> I work with servers not desktops so my knowledge of guis and x11 is limited
[00:24] <haylo> well id imagine alot of ubuntu staff are enjoying the new year. but if i can help i will
[00:24] <haylo> did you go into the software center and romve kde sttuff?
[00:24] <haylo> remove
[00:25] <angela-> hi i have ngircd running now and it not yet configgert what to do i note good addit
[00:27] <thebobwithquesti> like your style brither haylo...I am too new ....looking to see what this forum is all about....was that a cloud server you just helped with?
[00:27] <L1nuxRules> haylo software center no , I do everything from bash
[00:27] <haylo> no he just has problems with removing kde desktop
[00:28] <haylo> sudo apt-get remove kde-desktop?
[00:28] <L1nuxRules> its not kde desktop someone installed kubuntu over my ubuntu install at work
[00:29] <haylo> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[00:29] <L1nuxRules> thats kde only is that all that differs with kubuntu and ubuntu?
[00:29] <thebobwithquesti> I think my whole system is KDE based....and am not sure what bash is but it is extremely common on the command line
[00:29] <L1nuxRules> Im a RH man
[00:29] <haylo> yes but the kubuntu is different then plain kde
[00:30] <stepnjump> hi guys, I have a question... I am starting to run out of room here on my partition sda7 but thepartition before sda6 has plenty of room. I went to gparted and tried to widen sda7 but I get the warning from gparted: http://pastebin.com/2WW1zN7h If someone could help, I would appreciate it.
[00:30] <haylo> its customized ubuntu base with a custom kde desktop
[00:30] <L1nuxRules> so theres much more than removing kde to revert it to ubuntu then, thought so?
[00:30] <angela-> das anyone no what the ip adres are of the ngircd ?
[00:31] <L1nuxRules> I want to hack it back to ubuntu though not reinstall
[00:31] <haylo> bash means:bourne agian shell
[00:31] <haylo> do aot-get remove and apt-get purge
[00:31] <haylo> use the disk janitor on your machine and restart-
[00:32] <stepnjump> I thought it didn't matter since the partition keeps it's same name, thus sda7.. Is it true it will mess up my boot loader?
[00:32] <mininessie> i need help i am trying to install ubuntu on an evga 780I motherboard but it won't boot the cd and the cd is good it got to the installer but froze and now it won't boot at all
[00:33] <_rb> I have a choice of rpm based distribution or debian based distribution for a driver. Which one is Ubuntu?
[00:33] <Fudge> just sudo restart lightdm also works
[00:33] <haylo> why dont you just acess the partition with nautilus and save yuour files in a special folder there on the other operating system
[00:33] <Stanley00> _rb: it's deb
[00:33] <_rb> Stanley00 thanks!
[00:33] <NictraSavios> Hello. Is there anywhere I can give feedback on the fact that the Ubuntu Software Center is as fast as maple syrup in the arctic.
[00:33] <Stanley00> _rb: you are welcome ;)
[00:33] <mininessie> i need help i am trying to install ubuntu on an evga 780I motherboard but it won't boot the cd and the cd is good it got to the installer but froze and now it won't boot at all
[00:34] <stepnjump> stanley00, sorry for yesterday, I ran out of power on my laptop, that's why I dropped so fast
[00:34] <NictraSavios> And froze 17 times while trying to install 7 programs...
[00:34] <urlin2u> L1nuxRules, look at playing around bottom left panel. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/  and yeah we get it you know servers.
[00:34] <ubluntu> mininessie: did yoiu  md5 check the iso
[00:34] <Stanley00> stepnjump: :)
[00:35] <urlin2u> stepnjump, if you change in fstab to a /dev/sdaX instead of the uuid it will boot.
[00:35] <NictraSavios> Like seriously.... I don't think that should happen. Like.... thats quite a severe lack in quality.
[00:35] <mininessie> ubluntu: it worked about a week ago but then i left the disk at my brother's house and reburnt it with the same iso file i had
[00:35] <stepnjump> I know i must have looked like another ungrateful *** here but it wasn't the case... So again sorry Stanley00 - btw, it worked good with gunzip file.gz
[00:35] <stepnjump> urlin2u oh ok! that's interesting! Thank you very much my friend
[00:36] <Stanley00> stepnjump: dont worry about that :D
[00:36] <urlin2u> stepnjump, no problem. :D
[00:36] <stepnjump> well, may Stanley00  and urlin2u  have a great 2012!
[00:36] <L1nuxRules> urlin2u troubleshooting I spent 5 secs looking , If you were commenting on my skills, I fix anything when I have too for myself always have. Was only asking for quick advice if it was a known isue
[00:36] <mininessie> ubluntu: you there
[00:36] <stepnjump> and the rest of all of you
[00:37] <urlin2u> stepnjump, you to.
[00:37]  * NictraSavios is completely ignored.
[00:37] <Stanley00> stepnjump: thanks, the same to you
[00:37] <haylo> happy new year linux users!
[00:37] <stepnjump> thanks urlin2u and Stanley00 !!
[00:37] <L1nuxRules> happy new year to those -1
[00:37] <stepnjump> I could use it a lot!
[00:38] <ubluntu> mininessie: first thing i'd do is check the md5
[00:38]  * NictraSavios . . .
[00:39] <osmosis> Im having difficulty understanding how encrypted home dirs work. The process is so transparent, so I have no idea what its doing.
[00:43] <caffine> how do i find the /dev device to which a usb device has been bound? apparently, usbcore registered my device with snd-usb-audio, but i'm not sure where or how to find it to use on the command line with mplayer. i can see the video at /dev/video0 but don't know where to find the audio. here are the relevant entries from dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/789239/ here's lsusb:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/789240/ here's what i'm trying t
[00:46] <mongy> osmosis: encryption is in (I believe) .ecryptfs folder.  It's transparent because that's how it works.
[00:46] <osmosis> mongy, but where do my actual files get saved?
[00:47] <L1nuxRules> lagggggggggggggggggggg
[00:48] <mongy> osmosis: in the encrypted folder
[00:48] <L1nuxRules> your actual files will be in /home/user
[00:48] <mongy> but you will see you files as usual, as long as you are logged in
[00:49] <osmosis> which is actually a symlink to  /home/.ecryptfs
[00:49] <mongy> not logged in, you won't see anything but junk
[00:49] <osmosis> mongy, are things encrypted in real time?  if my server goes offline, are the files still encrypted?
[00:50] <mongy> yes
[00:50] <mongy> everything is encrypted.
[00:50] <dyess002> Hi Guys I have just run out of space on my hard drive and I started looking around and seen a 32.9 ENCRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FWZNm  folder and I didn't encrypt anything. Is this something to be worried about?
[00:51] <osmosis> when i look in the .ecryptfs dir, I dont see a disk image or a single large file. Where are my files stored?
[00:51] <L1nuxRules> if the server goes offline the files arent accessible :)
[00:51] <dyess002> 32.9gig that is
[00:51] <mongy> osmosis: if you want more encryption, use the alternate cd to enable full drive encryption
[00:55] <stepnjump> ok urlin2u, I replaced uuid with /dev/sda7 and previously backed up /etc/fstab to fstab.bk we'll see what happens. I won't have time to come back to let you know but I'm sure it will work fine. Thanks again
[00:55] <urlin2u> stepnjump, no problem.
[00:56] <angela-> how do i remove ngircd he dont any proces of it?
[00:58] <cypher-neo> Can someone help me with a bash script I'm having trouble with? I'm trying to pull my uptime from /proc/uptime and write a script to tell me how long I've been up in H:M:S. Here's what I have written so far. http://pastebin.com/jNTD0HkN Currently all it seems to do is freeze CLI.
[00:58] <dyess002> gota go I may post my question later again
[00:58] <mongy> angela-: sudo apt-get purhe ngircd
[00:58] <mongy> angela-: sudo apt-get purge ngircd
[00:58] <mongy> my typos, ugh
[00:59] <DrPenguin> cypher-neo: #bash
[00:59] <pnorman> cypher-neo: my initial thoughts would be to strip stuff you don't want out of the results of uptime
[00:59] <cypher-neo> DrPenguin, Thank you. Going now. :)
[00:59] <cypher-neo> pnorman, I tried that, but I had a trailing comma that just wouldn't leave!
[01:00] <cypher-neo> pnorman, So I decided to take the longer, but possibly more satisfying route (once it's complete that is) of writing a H:M:S calculation
[01:05] <L1nuxRules> cypher-neo why dont you just get the output of uptime?
[01:08] <L1nuxRules> then grep it xargs whatever awk and sed it to what you want
[01:09] <angela-> ok i have removed ngircd
[01:11] <mongy> congrats
[01:12] <quiescens> cypher-neo: first things first is you should probably count your opening and closing parenthesis
[01:13] <angela-> dont no how whas helpen me in prived whit ngircd?
[01:13] <Teratogen> ircd?  you setting up an irc network?
[01:13] <angela-> i try to
[01:13] <Teratogen> you linking to efnet?
[01:14] <angela-> i have don nothing yet
[01:15] <angela-> i cant do it on me one
[01:15] <skilz> angela-: What are you trying to do?
[01:16] <angela-> to set up a ircd server
[01:16] <skilz> angela-: What IRCD are you using? Unreal IRCD?
[01:17] <angela-> i have don nothing yet
[01:17] <angela-> i can using unrealircd yes
[01:17] <skilz> angela-: Well I recommend you try Unreal IRCD. A few config files to edit but fairly simple.
[01:19] <angela-> it for my not esy to do
[01:19] <skilz> angela-: Just read the manuals and help provided online. Good luck! :)
[01:20] <angela-> thanks
[01:20] <dadnaskjnfksjdfd> hello
[01:21] <dadnaskjnfksjdfd> k
[01:21] <sintrigue> hi
[01:21] <L1nuxRules> Ubutu are doing a good job of spreading our OS but its still not 100% for noobs yet but then again neither is win...
[01:23] <L1nuxRules> Ubuntu*
[01:23] <skilz> L1nuxRules: Why would you want to make Linux for 'n00bs'? The fun of using Linux is learning all the little bits and peices that make you a compitent sysadmin.
[01:24] <sintrigue> agree with skilz. all part of the fun ;)
[01:24] <DrPenguin> skilz: because if its not "easy" people give up to easy.. because they are lazy
[01:24] <sintrigue> let 'em go then.
[01:24] <html> theres os for everyone here,,, 2000 ,, but about 100 youll hear about
[01:24] <L1nuxRules> skilz I agree 100% with that but I would like to see M$ have a down fall. Then again since Linux has progressed micro shit have took the step up on open source.
[01:25] <skilz> DrPenguin: Then Linux is not for them, Linux is for intelligent, patient people that wish to learn the ins and out's of computing.
[01:25] <DrPenguin> skilz: oh I agree
[01:25] <L1nuxRules> so if we quitened down the bill cunt might shut up
[01:25] <pangolin> !language | L1nuxRules
[01:25] <bfrazier_> skilz, yup, but it is worth it
[01:26] <Teratogen> I really like kids who run ircd with one server in the entire network
[01:26] <skilz> If you don't have the patients, time and dedication to actually learn Linux, use another OS and don't fuss over it.
[01:26] <L1nuxRules> sorry for language peeps
[01:26] <aBound> Personal preference when it comes to OS's.
[01:27] <Teratogen> I used to fire up BeOS and QNX occasionally
[01:27] <Teratogen> ah, those were the days!
[01:27] <mebigfatguy> is it possible to put sudo .... in a unity launcher desktop file?
[01:27] <bfrazier_> mebigfatguy, yes
[01:27] <html> aBound,  and needs ...
[01:27] <milo_> Hey everybody.
[01:27] <sintrigue> heya
[01:27] <html> hi
[01:27] <aBound> html, Depends they all can pretty much do the same thing yet some are better in certain areas.
[01:27] <aBound> :P
[01:27] <milo_> Still trying to get my wireless working. Anybody got any suggestions?
[01:28] <freenodiz> Happy new year!!!!!!
[01:28] <mebigfatguy> bfrazier_, how does it prompt you for password?
[01:28] <mebigfatguy> bfrazier_, because it doesn't seem to work
[01:28] <DrPenguin> mebigfatguy: your better off using gksudo, or adding the program in question to sudoers so it doesnt require a password, the former is safer
[01:29] <mebigfatguy> DrPenguin, gksudo seems to work thansk
[01:29] <bfrazier_> mebigfatguy, http://pastebin.com/360jiThC
[01:29] <mebigfatguy> i am trying to get eclipse to launch java (debug) with sudo powers
[01:29] <DrPenguin> mebigfatguy: the problem you are encountering with sudo is that sudo is a cli tool, gksudo is a graphical one ^^
[01:30] <Orthebox> Hi guys just wondering what's the use of amd64+mac in the releases
[01:30] <mebigfatguy> and hoping if i run eclispe with sudo, the programs it launches will be to
[01:30] <Orthebox> I currently have a macbook pro that i wanna boot with ubuntu so do i use tat?
[01:30] <osmosis> when i look in the .ecryptfs dir, I dont see a disk image or a single large file. Where are my files stored?
[01:31] <L1nuxRules> orthevox none unless your using a mac
[01:31] <mebigfatguy> nice that worked thanks DrPenguin
[01:32] <aBound> Orthebox, AMD64 is just the architecture name for x86-64 yet AMD came out with it first they renamed it. Just means 64-Bit.
[01:32] <Orthebox> L1nuxRules: As in should I use the amd64+mac.iso file?
[01:32] <L1nuxRules> ^^ then yes its your updated kernel
[01:32] <Orthebox> Since it says like "+mac" lol
[01:32] <Orthebox> Cos I dled the other one (i386) and then the wireless and everything is a little bit tipsy
[01:32] <Orthebox> So I should get it eh? Thanks :)
[01:33] <L1nuxRules> oh your downloadinf=g dist ehn yeah thats the iso you need
[01:33] <DrPenguin> aBound: didnt intel come up with 64bit first? I thought the itanium 64 was first, but AMD's duron 64 was mucho more successful and much more usuable than itanium was
[01:33] <mebigfatguy> thansk bfrazier_   works
[01:33] <milamber> !amd64
[01:33] <bfrazier_> mebigfatguy, no problem
[01:33] <aBound> DrPenguin, x86-64 is an extension of the x86 instruction set. It supports vastly larger virtual and physical address spaces than are possible on x86, thereby allowing programmers to conveniently work with much larger data sets. x86-64 also provides 64-bit general purpose registers and numerous other enhancements. The original specification was created by AMD, and has been implemented by AMD, Intel, VIA, and others
[01:34] <lego> any one know how the initrd on the install cd mounts the cdrom? udev rules ?
[01:34] <L1nuxRules> I havent a clue about mac hardware though so listen to these guys
[01:34] <DrPenguin> aBound: I know what 64bit is..
[01:34] <aBound> After launching the architecture under the "x86-64" name, AMD renamed it AMD64 in 2003
[01:34] <lego> i'm running on mac hardware
[01:34] <aBound> It's just a name for the architecture.
[01:35] <DrPenguin> aBound:  forget it
[01:35] <Reggie> Hey folks can Ubuntu be set up to be used as a NAS with a Web Frontend like freenas or openfiler?
[01:35] <aBound> Blah! :P
[01:35] <pp7> Reggie: why not just use apache?
[01:35] <bfrazier_> Reggie, good question...I was wanting to know that one as well
[01:35] <L1nuxRules> Are there Mac versions of Ubuntu?
[01:36] <aBound> I'm sure Intel came out with 64-Bit first but the architecture name is usually AMD64 to notify people that it's 64-Bit.
[01:36] <pp7> L1nuxRules: LOL
[01:36] <lego> yep, there is a special live cd for mac
[01:36] <Reggie> no mac verss as of yetion
[01:36] <Reggie> it doesnt work
[01:36] <Orthebox> lego: Which one?
[01:36] <L1nuxRules> lol
[01:36] <Reggie> I tried on my macbook pro, missing certain drivers
[01:36] <aBound> DrPenguin, Yet it'd be easier for them to just label it 64-Bit. :P
[01:36] <Orthebox> Yup and the brightness is weird
[01:36] <pp7> Reggie: why do u need a mac version?
[01:36] <L1nuxRules> I started on red hat before it was enteprise
[01:37] <Reggie> wifi and temp sensors not working
[01:37] <pp7> Reggie: just install the AMD64 version on a macbook pro
[01:37] <Orthebox> Reggie: Same prob
[01:37] <Orthebox> Reggie: Did you fix it?
[01:37] <L1nuxRules> so not really kept up to date with certain things
[01:37] <pnorman> aBound: There's a difference between being 64 bit and amd64. Not all CPUs are based on x86
[01:37] <Reggie> no didnt have the patience to track down drivers
[01:37] <lego> Reggie, for wifi to work you most likely need to download the wifi firmware separately because of licensing issues
[01:37] <aBound> x86 is 32-Bit. :P
[01:37] <lego> looking up the name of the cd and where to get it know
[01:37] <spaoc> UBUNTU!
[01:38] <Orthebox> Does anyone know how to fix a brightness problem?
[01:38] <pp7> Reggie: i'm using ubuntu amd64 on a macbook pro as we speak with ZERO issues
[01:38] <Reggie> I am trying to convince a dev to create a special Ubuntu remix to include all of the latest drivers , not sure how far along he is at this point
[01:38] <Orthebox> Like when I try to turn up the brightness it dims down and I can't see anything
[01:38] <aBound> x86-32 that is. :)
[01:38] <keithclark> I'm having an issue with Thunderbird freezing up all the time.  I have 3 imap accounts on it and one is a gmail account.  Any ideas?  I never had that with evolution.
[01:38] <Orthebox> Reggie: I hope that goes thru it's real hard for macs to install
[01:38] <spaoc> Ubuntu in the MIX
[01:38] <Reggie> pp7 like I said I tried it on the latest macbook pro and the wifi drivers were not available
[01:38] <aBound> Running an intel quad-core processor on AMD64 Ubuntu.
[01:39] <Orthebox> AMD64 + Mac is good I think gonna give it a try
[01:39] <pnorman> aBound: x86 can also be 16 bit
[01:39] <Reggie> no the installation is a breeze with Ubuntu if you dont mind having your macbook plugged to ethernet cable and your processor eventually frying from lack of fans
[01:39] <aBound> pnorman, Indeed that's why I implied x86-32 afterwards.
[01:40] <L1nuxRules> keithclark if your connecting to, an exchange server using Evouloution using owa is better than thunderbird imap
[01:40] <aBound> It can be 8-bit too.
[01:40] <lego> Reggie, there are several intel mac cd images here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.10/release/
[01:40] <lego> Reggie, i used this one ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[01:40] <aBound> But the architecture name is usually denoted.
[01:41] <keithclark> L1nuxRules, so switch back to evolution?  Why did ubuntu ever change????
[01:41] <Reggie> lego unless these images have been updated like in the last month I dont think I will see a difference
[01:41] <lego> Reggie, ok.. which version of the macbook pro do you have ?
[01:41] <L1nuxRules> keithclark nothing to do with changes just updates to protocols
[01:42] <Reggie> the latest one with the thunderbolt port
[01:42] <Reggie> I read that Ubuntu did not have the wifi drivers available since the hardware was brand new
[01:42] <L1nuxRules> or the usual user error
[01:42] <aBound> Reggie, Depends on your machine.
[01:43] <lego> ok, i have a macbook 5.2 so i just needed to download the broadcom firmware to get wifi working
[01:43] <aBound> Reggie, I have a week old laptop that worked with Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 wifi flawlessly.
[01:43] <keithclark> L1nuxRules, by whom?
[01:44] <Reggie> well I dont remember the designation for this model macbook pro but I'm fairly certain that drivers were not available for this model
[01:44] <Reggie> shame too I have to say Ubuntu with Unity looks absolutely glorious on the 17th screen
[01:44] <Reggie> 17inch *
[01:44] <L1nuxRules> keithclark windows will always update things that Linux has to update to use there exchange service
[01:45] <jen> I need hep!
[01:45] <jen> help*
[01:45] <freenodiz> I'm using lucid as my server of choice.what would you say if i install lucid lts 10.04 as my DESKTOP of choice?
[01:45] <jen> so Im still trying to install sai paint...
[01:45] <Reggie> aBound I think these macs have broadcom installed
[01:45] <jen> and I am having trouble
[01:45] <aBound> Reggie, I can't say if this command works on your Mac. But you can type: lspci | grep Network. To check what your network controller is using.
[01:45] <Reggie> so a Broadcom driver would be needed
[01:45] <DrPenguin> !ask | jen
[01:46] <bfrazier_> how do you grep several values....for example, if I was looking for every instances of the word, "button" and "attributes"...would I use the following: 'grep -R button & attribute /var/www/'
[01:46] <geirha> freenodiz: Go for it. I stick with LTS for desktop too.
[01:46] <Reggie> anyway I came to find out if anyone has a working Ubuntu box working as a NAS device with a web frontend
[01:46] <bonhoffer> how do i switch to zsh in ubuntu?
[01:46] <freenodiz> geirha,nice :)
[01:46] <DrPenguin> Reggie: whipping up an Apache web service frontend is cake
[01:47] <geirha> bonhoffer: Run chsh
[01:47] <L1nuxRules> if you need to switch to z shell why you need to ask. If you do dont!
[01:47] <bonhoffer> i'll look into it
[01:47] <lego> Reggie, tou most likely have a BCM4331 wifi chip in your mac
[01:47] <Reggie> really DrPenguin
[01:47] <jen> well Im not sure what to do, I try to install it and it tells me I need to be administrator and I am admin, Im not sure of what question to ask.
[01:47] <DrPenguin> Reggie: I have an Arch Linux ARM Server that hosts an SVN and I gave it an HTTP frontend
[01:47] <bonhoffer> L1nuxRules, on mac -- i switched and am used to it there
[01:47] <DrPenguin> jen: install what?
[01:47] <Reggie> are the frontends pre-made
[01:47] <L1nuxRules> Im PC Linux
[01:48] <jen> sai paint, its for windows vista and up but Im trying to use wine for it
[01:48] <aBound> I'm a Mac. :P
[01:48] <Reggie> or would I have to design from Scratch
[01:48] <DrPenguin> Reggie: pretty much, its just your basic File System structure, nothing fancy
[01:49] <Reggie> aBound which version of Mac are you using, meaning which model?
[01:49] <aBound> Reggie, No Mac here I was messing around. I'm running a System76 machine bud.
[01:49] <jen> I dont want to use gimp I want to try sai
[01:49] <Reggie> I know this may be off topic but does anyone in here think that OSX lion is an epic fail especially on the Macbook
[01:49] <aBound> Reggie, If you're using a broadcom wireless network controller you will have to install the drivers.
[01:50] <DrPenguin> Reggie: maybe? it is :P but yeah lion sucks
[01:50] <freenodiz> jen,coder designers can't really stick with only ubuntu,you need adobe,thus you need also a mac/or win
[01:51] <Reggie> i've never seen anything suck up power like Lion
[01:51] <lego> Reggie, yeah lion doesn't really improve anyting.. i went back to snow leopard
[01:51] <aBound> You can use WINE for Photoshop can't say how smooth it'll run though.
[01:51] <Reggie> since I can't use Ubuntu I'm forced to use win 7 all the time
[01:51] <L1nuxRules> PC user and Linux user we are 100% in control of OUR OS
[01:51] <lego> but working on installing ubuntu on my primary disk, running from usb drive now
[01:51] <Reggie> I can get 5 hours out of the MAc with win 7 and maybe 2 hours with lion
[01:51] <keithclark> L1nuxRules, I still don't understand
[01:52] <jen> Ive used virtualbox and I am having trouble with that X_X I might just put it on moms computer when she gets hers. I need windows somewhere
[01:52] <aBound> L1nuxRules, With all the Linux control we can still break are systems. :-)
[01:52]  * freenodiz is waiting for canonical do the deal of the millenium and support adobe apps natively.
[01:52] <L1nuxRules> keithclark as its new year im well too drunk now
[01:52] <aBound> 100% Windows free <<
[01:53] <keithclark> L1nuxRules, Got you and the same here!  Happy New Year!
[01:53] <lego> Reggie, 10.04 looks like it lacks some patches in the kernel to make wifi working without ndis-wrapper but the firmware will be missing even if those patches would be in the kernel
[01:53] <L1nuxRules> aBound thats all that breaks Linux though the user :)
[01:53] <lego> Reggie, i meant 11.04
[01:53] <aBound> No carlories added. lol
[01:53] <Reggie> ok
[01:53] <aBound> L1nuxRules, I broke grub and did a reinstall. :-)
[01:53]  * freenodiz thinks canonical must hire some bomb shell blondies to pay a visit to adobe's chef executives///lol
[01:54] <L1nuxRules> aBound you should have fixed grub though
[01:54] <Reggie> as much as I would like to see Ubuntu work I guess I can wait until at least they get the temp sensors working
[01:54] <pangolin> !guidelines > freenodiz
[01:54] <Zeraphing> temp senors for what?
[01:54] <lego> Reggie, have you looked at this page ? http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/06/install-ubuntu-1104-on-macbook-pro-81.html
[01:55] <aBound> L1nuxRules, When you're a newcomer and barely any experience with Linux fixing grub is a downfall. :P
[01:55] <aBound> Does anybody know how I get rid of this orange box in ubuntu? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/21/orangeboxq.png/
[01:55] <Zeraphing> can't you just use supergrub to fix grub?
[01:55] <freenodiz> Ohhh c'mon mate,it's new year!!!!
[01:55] <pangolin> freenodiz: there are still rules that need to be followed. Happy new year.
[01:55] <Reggie> hey lego I will give it a read
[01:55] <DrPenguin> aBound: the orange box when you go to highlight an area?
[01:55] <aBound> Zeraphing, Haven't a clue.
[01:56] <aBound> DrPenguin, It just magically appeared when I accidentally pressed some buttons on my touchpad/keyboard.
[01:56] <Reggie> funny thing is Pear OS was released but it will not work on a MAc? lol I never understood that
[01:56] <L1nuxRules> aBound I know where your coming from but I do work in 2nd line support and before that I mwas always good/or quick to fix stuff
[01:56] <Zeraphing> Well I had a problem with grub and it lost my kernel, I just booted from the Supergrub disk and it found everything and put it back in place.
[01:56] <Reggie> many Ubuntu Mac clones that dont work on a MAC what's the point
[01:56] <aBound> L1nuxRules, I probably wouldn't have any issues if I had the right books.
[01:57] <freenodiz> What would you say about vagrant running virtual machines in a linode
[01:57] <milo_> Hey there. Can anybody tell me how to remove Wicd network manager 1.7 and install 1.6 or something else that might work?
[01:57] <L1nuxRules> books are boring learn by doing
[01:57] <aBound> L1nuxRules, Learning shell scripting by a tutorial just doesn't work for me.
[01:57] <Zeraphing> yea reading is for the rich...
[01:57] <aBound> Zeraphing, lol
[01:57] <DrPenguin> L1nuxRules: books are most definitely not boring! Levar Burton makes reading fun
[01:57] <jen> okay so can someone help me with virtualbox?
[01:57] <L1nuxRules> aBound what you struggling with ?
[01:58] <Zeraphing> @JEn, whats up?
[01:58] <html> jen,  ?
[01:58] <jen> one sec, I have to get it loaded
[01:58] <Zeraphing> ok. i have some experience with it.
[01:58] <L1nuxRules> Dr I was talking about non-fic
[01:58] <aBound> L1nuxRules, Nothing as of right now just gotta get rid of this orange box. But figures learning shell scripting through tutorials that are so poor are a pain.
[01:58] <freenodiz> is there some ubuntu-chitichat channel?
[01:58] <DrPenguin> !ot | freenodiz
[01:59] <aBound> Figures, I'd have to log out to get rid of the orange box.
[01:59] <jen> I need someone with a LOT of patience too....this is what it says when I go to startup windows
[01:59] <jen> http://pastebin.com/Q3gcvzx5
[01:59] <lego> any one know how the livecd transitions from initrd to running from the cdrom? cant find from which script the cdrom is mounted..
[01:59] <freenodiz> woww...nice tips dude #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:59] <L1nuxRules> aBound I learned shell scripting by playing with it . Yes read but inbetween reading play around with it!
[02:00] <DrPenguin> aBound: shell scripting isnt hard, I can teach you if youd like
[02:00] <freenodiz> what about a channel for lucid lts 10.04?
[02:00] <aBound> L1nuxRules, I agree to an extent reading is boring but try learning Physics without a textbook or some kind of a math book it'll be tough.
[02:00] <L1nuxRules> Shell scripting is only automated bash
[02:00] <Zeraphing> @Jen let look real quick.
[02:00] <Reggie> jen if you never installed the OS then you will need to relink the ISO so Vbox can run the OS
[02:01] <DrPenguin> L1nuxRules: not necessarily, theres also POSIX, ZShell, TCSHell, KORN, etc etc
[02:01] <aBound> I know and uses a bunch of commands I used Ubuntu like 7 years ago. :P
[02:01] <Zeraphing> Cant you boot to disc in Vbox?
[02:01] <L1nuxRules> I do and alaways learn for myself its not that hard
[02:01] <aBound> Bash/Zsh.
[02:01] <jen> relink? how must I do that?
[02:01] <aBound> brb
[02:01] <Zeraphing> This may sound stupid but what exactly is shell programming?
[02:02] <jen> so what do I have to do to get it working again?
[02:02] <Reggie> Jen someone would have to run teamviewer or webex to show you
[02:02] <Reggie> too much typing for me to explain
[02:02] <Barnabas> Zeraphing, writing software / functionality in a language that is interpreted and not compiled
[02:02] <DrPenguin> Zeraphing: its writing scripts that can be directly executed in your command interpreter or shell
[02:02] <freenodiz> #lucid
[02:02] <L1nuxRules> I do work in 2nd line support and am more naturallt talented than the boys with degrees who are usueless
[02:03] <Zeraphing> is it difficult to do? or just time consuming?
[02:03] <jen> okay I can do that, can someone take a look?
[02:03] <aBound> Back.
[02:03] <DrPenguin> Zeraphing: its neither
[02:03] <Barnabas> Zeraphing, same as all other languages
[02:03] <Zeraphing> its not difficult or time consuming?
[02:03] <aBound> Shell scripting is supposed to make your life easier. :P
[02:03] <Reggie> do you have teamviewer?
[02:03] <jen> yes I do
[02:03] <Zeraphing> doesn't it just automate stuff?
[02:03] <Reggie> ok one sec
[02:03] <Barnabas> Zeraphing, what is "time consuming" in your terms .-)
[02:03] <DrPenguin> Zeraphing: thats the basic idea
[02:04] <jen> whomever wants to try and fix it just private chat me
[02:04] <Zeraphing> i guess i don't a good definition of 'time consuming'. i have zero experience with shell programming
[02:04] <DrPenguin> Ive written some useful scripts.. like one to make it easier to create things like Projects or Virtual Devices for Android
[02:05] <Reggie> ok jen what's your numbers
[02:05] <Zeraphing> I am going to school for network securities and there are a few programming classes and they are making me really nervous. so i was just asking about it.
[02:05] <L1nuxRules> aBound yeah ity is, what you need help with again?
[02:05] <Reggie> partner ID?
[02:05] <DrPenguin> Zeraphing: no need to be nervous ^^ programming is not hard
[02:05] <aBound> L1nuxRules, I got rid of the orange box by logging off.
[02:05] <Barnabas> Zeraphing, to my experience, shell programming is faster in the sense you can immediately execute your code, without the code->compile->test cycle
[02:05] <Barnabas> hence faster turn around
[02:06] <aBound> Zeraphing, There's always Perl scripting too. :P
[02:06] <L1nuxRules> whats that got do do with .sh lol?
[02:06] <Barnabas> but aside from that the process is the same
[02:06] <Zeraphing> hrmm ok. whats Perl scripting?
[02:06] <DrPenguin> Zeraphing: scripts written in Perl
[02:06] <DrPenguin> theres also Python Scripting
[02:06] <Barnabas> I strongly suggest python / ruby
[02:06] <Zeraphing> is that just a different editor? whats the difference between all the different editors
[02:06] <L1nuxRules> I am very drunk at the min
[02:06] <aBound> L1nuxRules, Hacker elite. lol
[02:07] <DrPenguin> Zeraphing: the command interpreters will be different and different syntax
[02:07] <Zeraphing> syntax?
[02:07] <DrPenguin> Zeraphing: yes, syntax refers to what the interpreters or compilers lexer/parser understands so it knows how to execute the code
[02:08] <Zeraphing> does it require a different type of code? or just how it executes commands?
[02:08] <Barnabas> Zeraphing, thats a science in itself
  might also be a very good social reverse engineer and could be a good hacker
[02:08] <Zeraphing> this is all starting to sound very difficult and confusing! lol
[02:08] <aBound> #!perl use strict; use warnings; @countdown_to_new_years = ("5", "4", "3", "2", "1"); print @countdown_to_new_years; :P
[02:09] <Zeraphing> @L1nuxRules...you never know...
[02:09] <aBound> Zeraphing, ^^ is perl's syntax.
[02:10] <DrPenguin> Zeraphing: Parsers/Lexers is a huge topic in it of itself. If youd like to learn about Compilers and how they parse the Language we know into language it knows, check out the Dragon book
[02:10] <Zeraphing> The Dragon book?
[02:10] <DrPenguin> Zeraphing: Si, thats the name, the Dragon book
[02:11] <L1nuxRules> he is a hacker as he learnt his programming the way I did
[02:11] <Zeraphing> hrm ok.
[02:11] <Barnabas> Zeraphing, if you want to just write some functionality in something that resembles spoken language I suggest python
[02:11] <Barnabas> forget about compiler theory for startes ;-)
[02:12] <Barnabas> starters
[02:12] <Zeraphing> python? ill check that out.
[02:12] <aBound> This keyboard is getting on my nerves I keep hitting the touchpad.
[02:12] <Barnabas> its way beyond what you want
[02:12] <L1nuxRules> hackers artent the same as crackers meither
[02:12] <aBound> Zeraphing, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_%28programming_language%29
[02:12] <DrPenguin> Zeraphing: Python is a lovely language. I am fluent in it and can teach ya if yad like
[02:13] <aBound> Python is built into Ubuntu. :P
[02:13] <L1nuxRules> Python is built into Linux
[02:13] <Zeraphing> I'd be happy to learn some stuff.
[02:13] <Barnabas> in fact is is the basis of many of the gui apps you use in gnome / kde etc
[02:13] <aBound> True that.
[02:13] <DrPenguin> Some of Ubuntus tools are actually written in Python, like Software Center
[02:13] <lego> aBound, you have to use "my" or "our" if you have 'use strict;' :D
[02:13] <DrPenguin> L1nuxRules: that is incorrect, some distros do not use Python, like Arch Linux, so its not built in
[02:13] <aBound> lego, I know I made a mistake. lol
[02:14] <L1nuxRules> Arch Linux is BSD based though
[02:14] <DrPenguin> L1nuxRules: Nope.. Arch Is a derivative of Crux
[02:14] <Zeraphing> so how do i even open python?
[02:14] <aBound> Arch Linux is Linux.
[02:14] <aBound> :P
[02:14] <aBound> Zeraphing, Open a terminal and type: python.
[02:14] <aBound> Zeraphing, To view python's man pages open a terminal and type: man python.
[02:14] <DrPenguin> Zeraphing: by typing "python", or if you have it, idle, its the graphical Python interpreter. It refers to Eric Idle, famous for Monty Python
[02:15] <Barnabas> Zeraphing, if you are on a ubuntu box it should be installed - on windows I belive Iron Python is a good alternative
[02:15] <Barnabas> But I am not an expert in matters Microsoft
[02:15] <DrPenguin> isnt Iron Python a combination of C / Python?
[02:15] <L1nuxRules> Arch doesent follow ~Linux so it isnt in my eyes
[02:15] <aBound> lol
[02:15] <DrPenguin> L1nuxRules: it does follow Linux.. the only BSD'ee thing in it is the Initscripts
[02:16] <aBound>  Now gentoo is a real linux. j/k
[02:16] <Zeraphing> im on ubuntu 11.10
[02:16] <aBound> Portege is inspired by BSD's port system on Gentoo.
[02:16] <L1nuxRules> drpenguin well as soon as I saw init or rc scripts werent working thats why I didnt like it
[02:17] <DrPenguin> L1nuxRules: Arch is a mans Linux ^^ its my distro of choice
[02:17] <L1nuxRules> I have used slackware for years and sorry Arch is going BSD
[02:19] <aBound> Arch going to use the BSD kernel?
[02:19] <DrPenguin> no.. Arch is Linux.. not BSD.. and its not going to BSD
[02:19] <L1nuxRules> probabbly not but they still use there defaults
[02:19] <Zeraphing> I gotta split guys. Thanks for all the help. See ya around.
[02:20] <L1nuxRules> Arch is a Linux distro based on BSD
[02:20] <aBound> I know Debian can use a BSD kernel.
[02:21] <L1nuxRules> Linux can use anything
[02:21] <Barnabas> in fact you can run debian linux in a freebsd jail using a bsd core ..
[02:21] <DrPenguin> Dude L1nuxRules, the only thing BSD like about Arch is its init. its LINUX, not BSD
[02:22] <L1nuxRules> in fact Linux is the kernel but the other kernels are unix/linux and wqould work if they didnt you need to know how to fix
[02:22] <L1nuxRules> not other kernels meant file systems
[02:22] <jen> thank you all! <3 I got virtualbox working
[02:23] <aBound> Woot, jen.
[02:23] <Barnabas> linux is a kernel .. BSD is .. a license ? potatoes and tomatoes
[02:23] <Barnabas> imho
[02:23] <DrPenguin> BSD is a Unix Like OS
[02:23] <Barnabas> no it is a license
[02:23] <Barnabas> first and foremost
[02:23] <osmosis> is there some kind of desktop widgit for ubuntu to track my CPU and RAM use?
[02:24] <jen> but I still cant get itunes to work T_T
[02:24] <Barnabas> FreeBSD has their kernel same as openbsd
[02:24] <Barnabas> or netbsd
[02:24] <aBound> OpenBSD is just a modified bsd kernel.
[02:24] <DrPenguin> Barnabas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution tell me im wrong
[02:24] <Barnabas> aBound, I think a few bsd ppl would disagree with you on that one
[02:24] <Stanley00> osmosis: there is monitor indicator and screenlet
[02:25] <osmosis> Stanley00, how do I get it?
[02:25] <aBound> Barnabas, They'll be outta their minds given there's no reason to rebuild an entirely new kernel.
[02:25] <L1nuxRules> I have always lovecd Linux and coding but Ive never followed the crap
[02:25] <Stanley00> osmosis: search it in Ubuntu Software Center, and there is also conky :D
[02:25] <Stanley00> !info conky | osmosis
[02:25] <aBound> Barnabas, OpenBSD is a Unix-like computer operating system descended from Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD), a Unix derivative developed at the University of California, Berkeley. It was forked from NetBSD by project leader Theo de Raadt in late 1995
[02:26] <aBound> OpenBSD was forked from NetBSD and NetBSD was forked from FreeBSD.
[02:26] <Barnabas> aBound, I know
[02:26] <aBound> :P
[02:26] <aBound> Same kernel.
[02:26] <Barnabas> not anymore
[02:26] <Stanley00> hey guys, I think it is somehow off-topic here
[02:26] <Barnabas> the scheduler is vastly different between openbsd and freebsd
[02:26] <jen> anyone think they can get my itunes to work on virtualbox?
[02:26] <aBound> Barnabas, That's why I used the term: modified.
[02:27] <DrPenguin> jen: why not?
[02:27] <Barnabas> again potatoes and tomatoes
[02:27] <aBound> hehe
[02:27] <L1nuxRules> arch linux > 2&>1 /dev/null
[02:27]  * Barnabas have fiddled a lot with things bsd
[02:27] <aBound> Mac OS X uses partial BSD sockets code.
[02:27] <Barnabas> yep
[02:28] <Barnabas> due to the license
[02:28] <jen> DrPenguin, well I think I have everything installed that it needs it just wont bring it up anymore when I plug in my ipod, it works on ubuntu side but not windows
[02:28] <aBound> It'd be hard not to think that all these other forks from FreeBSD aren't using the BSD kernel.
[02:28] <Barnabas> GPL ruled linux out there
[02:28] <L1nuxRules> mac os is unix based like Linux is but it isnt Linux
[02:28] <Stanley00> !ot | Barnabas aBound
[02:28] <DrPenguin> jen: you need to forward the ipod to the Virtual Session
[02:28] <aBound> We gotcha stanley. :P
[02:28] <Barnabas> check
[02:28] <jen> DrPenguin, how do I go that?
[02:29] <jen> do*
[02:29] <aBound> Barnabas, We better shut it before we get the boot. lol
[02:29] <DrPenguin> jen: theres a device manager in virtual box, look at that
[02:29] <overclucker> yo udon't have to shut it, just continue in off topic
[02:30] <Barnabas> hmm am not really using ubuntu / unity but ubuntu / gnome3 - is there a group for that ?
[02:30] <Barnabas> perhaps I should go there
[02:30] <Barnabas> channel
[02:31] <jen> DrPenguin, so add a usb filter?
[02:31] <Stanley00> Barnabas: I think many people here use gnome3 too :D
[02:31] <Barnabas> you should really make two channels
[02:31] <DrPenguin> jen: I guess? I dont relaly use virtual box I use Workstation
[02:31] <jen> whats workstation?
[02:31] <L1nuxRules> Loves Linuxand hates windoes
[02:32] <DrPenguin> jen: VMWare Workstation
[02:32] <L1nuxRules> and is very drunk lol
[02:33] <jen> hung dont see that, well if anyone can help me I would be thankful
[02:33] <DrPenguin> jen: yeah I suppose a USB Filter will work
[02:34] <aBound> L1nuxRules, I might reinstall Ubuntu for new years.
[02:34] <jen> I need guest additions and I have no idea why it wont download it >:O
[02:35] <aBound> Even though that's crazy.
[02:35] <L1nuxRules> aBound Linux doesent work like windows
[02:35] <aBound> I know haha
[02:35] <DrPenguin> jen: you have a guest additions iso.. Windows doesnt have a native iso mounter (maybe win 7 does im not sure)
[02:35] <aBound> Just for the hell of it. hehe
[02:35] <jen> but but but oii
[02:35] <aBound> Probably won't do it it'll make me to tired.
[02:35] <Barnabas> jen : daemon tools as far as I recall
[02:36] <jen> is workstation easier =_=
[02:36] <L1nuxRules> lmaso good new year aBound :)
[02:36] <aBound> haha
[02:37] <aBound> Would of been nice if 12.04 were released for a new year.
[02:37] <aBound> :P
[02:37] <_rb> will ubuntu 32 run on a 64 bit machine?
[02:37] <DrPenguin> yes
[02:37] <Orthebox> Why does ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso not mount on mac?
[02:38] <agamemnus> hello again
[02:38] <L1nuxRules> dont know really I drug deal day to day
[02:38] <jen> DrPenguin, is workstation easier?
[02:38] <DrPenguin> Orthebox: thats not very help ful
[02:38] <DrPenguin> jen: I love workstation, but it aint free
[02:38] <agamemnus> I need just one library now but I don't know what it's called.. any suggestions?
[02:38] <Orthebox> DrPenguin: ?
[02:38] <agamemnus> The error in my compiler is: " ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient"
[02:38] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: um, that doesnt really help, theres MANY libraries
[02:38] <jen> awww shoot I'll wait for Ken XD
[02:38] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: oh thats helpful
[02:39] <agamemnus> any ideas for mysql libs?
[02:39] <agamemnus> just client libs
[02:39] <agamemnus> i don't need a whole server
[02:39] <DrPenguin> maybe lib-mysql? or libmysql? dunno you can search symaptics for packages
[02:39] <agamemnus> what would the syntax on this be?
[02:39] <Barnabas> agamemnus, or install aptitude
[02:39] <agamemnus> (I downloaded getlibs btw)
[02:39] <aBound> Alright guys have a happy Ubuntu year I'm off to wonderland. :)
[02:39] <Barnabas> aptitude search mysql
[02:40] <Barnabas> should give you a list of all things mysql
[02:41] <agamemnus> now i need to install aptitude
[02:41] <Barnabas> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[02:41] <trism> agamemnus: libmysqlclient-dev
[02:41] <agamemnus> thanks
[02:41] <DrPenguin> you can also do apt-cache search mysql
[02:41] <agamemnus> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:41] <miccoli1> does anyone know how i activate focus follows mouse?
[02:41] <agamemnus> I'll try that, trism
[02:41] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: sudo !!
[02:42] <agamemnus> oh, ok
[02:42] <L1nuxRules> Happy new year evryone one Linux FTW!
[02:42] <L1nuxRules> good night
[02:42] <Barnabas> yeah happy 2012
[02:42] <Barnabas> may it be a good one
[02:43] <miccoli1> anyone? im using ubuntu/fluxbox
[02:43] <agamemnus> that actually installed, trism
[02:43] <agamemnus> crap
[02:44] <Barnabas> agamemnus, what happens if you type mysql in a terminal ?
[02:44] <agamemnus> "ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so when searching for -lmysqlclient ............ ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.a when searching for -lmysqlclient"
[02:44] <Barnabas> should be the terminal client
[02:44] <agamemnus> hold on hold on
[02:44] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: you probably needd the one for the right architecture
[02:44] <Barnabas> mysql -u <user> -p
[02:44] <agamemnus> I need it for a 32-bit compiler
[02:44] <Barnabas> as far as I recall
[02:45] <agamemnus> I'm using a 64-bit Ubuntu build
[02:45] <agamemnus> ok, so what now?
[02:45] <Barnabas> you tell us :-)
[02:46] <agamemnus> Barnabas: it tells me where the program can be found
[02:46] <jen> does itunes work in wine?
[02:46] <DrPenguin> jen: not too well im afraid
[02:46] <jen> why so?
[02:46] <agamemnus> i'll try to install the client package
[02:46] <DrPenguin> jen: couldnt tell you, Ive used it in wine and it doesnt work right
[02:46] <agamemnus> but i suck at this
[02:47] <Barnabas> The program 'mysql' can be found in the following packages:
[02:47] <Barnabas>  * mysql-client-core-5.1
[02:47] <Barnabas>  * mysql-cluster-client-5.1
[02:47] <agamemnus> sudo apt-get mysql-client-core-5.1 doesn't work
[02:47] <jen> does it get music on the ipod?
[02:47] <Barnabas> something like that
[02:47] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: sudo apt-get install
[02:47] <agamemnus> oh, oops
[02:47] <DrPenguin> jen: it doesnt even run
[02:47] <jen> oh
[02:47] <jen> well ima try it anyways
[02:48] <agamemnus> guys, still the same error now but with more stuff:
[02:48] <agamemnus> oh no wait
[02:48] <agamemnus> yes, the same errors
[02:48] <agamemnus> i'll try the other one
[02:49] <milo_> Hey guys
[02:49] <_rb> I am trying to create a bootable on a USB but disk creator on ubuntu 10.04 tells me installation failed and nothing more.
[02:49] <jen> whats best to put music on my apple ipod touch?
[02:49] <Barnabas> _rb, is the stick large enough for the image ?
[02:49] <milo_> Trying to install a network manager for Kubuntu. If you guys have any recommendations...
[02:49] <agamemnus> now I just get "ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient" again.
[02:50] <_rb> Barnabas It shows 3.7 Gig
[02:50] <agamemnus> i did sudo apt-get install on both of those , the client-core and cluster-client
[02:51] <jen> does anyone know?
[02:51] <agamemnus> i just did aptitude search mysql
[02:51] <agamemnus> that's a lot
[02:51] <Vaelstrom> Dinner time, brb.
[02:51] <ertyuiop99> "Failed to open device (/dev/input/event3): Failed to open device /dev/input/event3 (13)
[02:51] <ertyuiop99> "  Same with event 2,1, and 0.  Any way to fix this?
[02:51] <jutnux> so confused
[02:51] <agamemnus> this is terrible
[02:52] <Barnabas> agamemnus, could you post an output of uname -a
[02:52] <rectec> Quick question. Have any of you been updated to Firefox 9 yet? It's been out for weeks and I still haven't recieved an update. When is it coming?
[02:52] <Barnabas> I think you have some 32 / 64bit confusion going on
[02:52] <agamemnus> Linux ubuntu 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:52] <agamemnus> but the compiler is 32-bit
[02:53] <bunnyfun> does Linux 2.6.32-37-generic x86_64 identify the kernel or the hardware?
[02:53] <Barnabas> why would you want a 32 bit compiler for a 64 bit platform
[02:53] <Barnabas> unless cross compiling
[02:53] <rileyp> when I type this from a terminal it works but in a script it doesnt whats wrong?  echo -e "VOLM20  \r" > /dev/ttyUSB0
[02:53] <mgokay> jen: i use xp as a virtual machine on virtualbox. Connect my ipod this virtual machine and transfer music from itunes.
[02:53] <agamemnus> it's the only one that's available
[02:53] <agamemnus> perhaps libmysqlclient16
[02:53] <Barnabas> ? gcc is 64 bit
[02:53] <agamemnus> I'm using FBC
[02:54] <Barnabas> aah ok
[02:54] <agamemnus> though, it may be using gcc there actually
[02:54] <Barnabas> don't know that compiler
[02:54] <agamemnus> actually I do have an option to compile with gcc but it's really buggy
[02:54] <agamemnus> i'll try it
[02:54] <bunnyfun> what is the command to identify a running kernel?
[02:54] <Barnabas> buggy .. i would say a 32 bit compiler on a 64 bit platform is basically buggy :-)
[02:54] <bunnyfun> (as 32 or 64)
[02:55] <DrPenguin> bunnyfun: uname -r
[02:55] <agamemnus> " error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set" :|
[02:55] <Barnabas> you will have issues executing the code on your 64 bit platform as well
[02:55] <bunnyfun> thanks
[02:55] <DrPenguin> -m not -r
[02:55] <bunnyfun> lol ok
[02:55] <bonhoffer> in a control that i am calling via remote: true, how do i prevent the js.erb from being rendered
[02:56] <jen> mgokay, well I cant it wont recognize my ipod when I plug it in
[02:56] <bonhoffer> for example if a user is adding things repeatedly
[02:56] <Barnabas> for executing 32 bit code on a 64 bit platform you need the ia32 libs afaik
[02:56] <agamemnus> I already haves it
[02:56] <Barnabas> but just dont do that :-)
[02:56] <agamemnus> i have to.
[02:56] <Barnabas> why
[02:56] <agamemnus> because!
[02:56] <Barnabas> well then
[02:56] <bonhoffer> i can check in the view if the fields exist via jquery, but rails knows there is no change -- i typically would do a redirect_to :back or something, but here the method was called via ajax
[02:57] <Barnabas> I suggest using a 64 bit compiler that fits your execution  platform
[02:57] <agamemnus> it won't compile with the gcc option... and when I set the -fpu option it says it doesn't know what that option is :|
[02:57] <Barnabas> man gcc
[02:57] <agamemnus> this is the only compiler
[02:57] <Barnabas> nonsense :-)
[02:57] <rectec> Quick question. Have any of you been updated to Firefox 9 yet? It's been out for weeks and I still haven't recieved an update. When is it coming?
[02:57] <agamemnus> for Freebasic
[02:57] <agamemnus> :|
[02:57] <Barnabas> ahh
[02:57] <Barnabas> ok
[02:58] <Barnabas> xbasic?
[02:58] <trism> rectec: it is in proposed, it will likely land in updates soon
[02:58] <Barnabas> I thought we where in c / c++ realm
[02:59] <agamemnus> we are, sort of
[02:59] <agamemnus> I don't really know how the compiler works, to be honest.
[02:59] <rectec> trism: Alright. Is there a page with the status of the release or something?
[02:59] <rileyp> when I type this from a terminal it works but in a script it doesnt whats wrong?  echo -e "VOLM20  \r" > /dev/ttyUSB0
[02:59] <agamemnus> i think it asks for a c++ library and somehow adds it in
[02:59] <agamemnus> or rather, C.
[03:00] <agamemnus> libmysqlclient16 isn't it.
[03:00] <itsnotabigtruck> agamemnus: what's the problem again?
[03:00] <itsnotabigtruck> do ls /usr/lib/*mysql*
[03:00] <agamemnus> when I try to compile, my compiler gives me a missing library error: "ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient"
[03:00] <_rb> maybe the problem I am having with startup disk creator is file permission. What is the least restrictive file permission I can have?
[03:01] <Barnabas> itsnotabigtruck, the basic compiler hes using on a 64 bit platform is a 32 bit one
[03:01] <Barnabas> hence it cannot find the correct runtime libraries
[03:01] <itsnotabigtruck> Barnabas: ohh...is this 11.10? sounds like a multiarch apt problem
[03:01] <itsnotabigtruck> i was just reading earlier today about how that tends to screw everything up
[03:01] <Barnabas> itsnotabigtruck, dont know
[03:01] <agamemnus> libmysqlclient16 should be it though, right?
[03:02] <Barnabas> itsnotabigtruck, do not code anything on 32 bit or in basic
[03:02] <agamemnus> :[
[03:02] <agamemnus> it all works great in windows, but I need to get this on a server
[03:02] <rectec> trism: nvm I found a thread on the Forums about it. Thanks!
[03:02] <itsnotabigtruck> agamemnus: ok, so, what version of ubuntu is it
[03:02] <Barnabas> well the allocation size is beside the point - nothing in basic ..
[03:03] <agamemnus> i dunno, I downloaded it a few days ago
[03:03] <agamemnus> how do I even check?
[03:03] <itsnotabigtruck> oh, also, http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/amd64/libmysqlclient16/filelist
[03:03] <agamemnus> wait I got it
[03:03] <agamemnus> It's 11.1
[03:04] <rileyp> when I type this from a terminal it works but in a script it doesnt whats wrong?  echo -e "VOLM20  \r" > /dev/ttyUSB0
[03:04] <agamemnus> 11.10
[03:04] <itsnotabigtruck> ok, so it looks like it's supposed to be -lmysqlclient, as you already have, agamemnus
[03:04] <Barnabas> agamemnus, where did you get your linux basic compiler?
[03:04] <itsnotabigtruck> 11.10 allows you to install amd64 and i386 packages at the same time
[03:04] <agamemnus> Barnabas: http://superb-sea2.dl.sourceforge.net/project/fbc/Binaries%20-%20Linux/FreeBASIC-0.23.0-linux.run
[03:04] <Barnabas> aarh the plot thickens ..
[03:05] <Barnabas> that package is probably 32 bit
[03:05] <Barnabas> or "package"
[03:05] <jen> anyone good with virtuabox?
[03:05] <Barnabas> not really a package is it?
[03:05] <agamemnus> yeah, like I said, they haven't compiled it for 64.
[03:05] <agamemnus> It's a linux.run file.
[03:05] <Barnabas> its a shell run file
[03:05] <agamemnus> There are three different ones actually
[03:05] <itsnotabigtruck> agamemnus: oh lovely...ok, so download the source
[03:05] <itsnotabigtruck> compile that
[03:05] <Barnabas> preciscely
[03:05] <itsnotabigtruck> before you do that, purge everything related to freebasic you have now
[03:06] <Barnabas> agree
[03:06] <itsnotabigtruck> also, you might need to do some configure stuff to make it install to /usr/local and not /usr
[03:06] <agamemnus> I don't know how to compile it.
[03:06] <itsnotabigtruck> ./configure, make, make install :D
[03:06] <itsnotabigtruck> jen: what about it?
[03:06] <agamemnus> so there would be absolutely no way as it is now to get the mysql client lib working then?
[03:06] <itsnotabigtruck> i've only used it on windows
[03:06] <agamemnus> because of the 64/32-bit incompatibility?
[03:06] <jen> well...I cant get my itunes to work on it
[03:07] <itsnotabigtruck> agamemnus: even if you did it wouldn't be a good idea
[03:07] <jen> it will not recognize my ipod
[03:07] <agamemnus> why not?
[03:07] <itsnotabigtruck> putting binaries on a linux system, that aren't for your specific distro, is a really bad idea, usually
[03:07] <itsnotabigtruck> because of things like this
[03:07] <agamemnus> oh, not only that..
[03:07] <agamemnus> but I'm going to put it on CentOS
[03:07] <agamemnus> Mouahahahahaha
[03:07] <agamemnus> Total fail?
[03:07] <itsnotabigtruck> jen: did you turn on usb redirection
[03:08] <itsnotabigtruck> agamemnus: ffs, then go load up centos and test with that :p
[03:08] <itsnotabigtruck> you could use virtualbox or something
[03:08] <itsnotabigtruck> and in the future, avoid freebasic like the plague, heh
[03:08] <agamemnus> I actually downloaded it, but I don't think centOS would be as user-friendly as ubuntu
[03:08] <jen> i hav no idea what that means
[03:08] <agamemnus> because.. i like... have no idea what to do with it
[03:09] <agamemnus> i have this image file
[03:09] <agamemnus> of centOS
[03:09] <itsnotabigtruck> jen: well, in the menus, you can tell it to hook a usb device up to the vm, right
[03:09] <agamemnus> and.. that's it
[03:09] <itsnotabigtruck> so you go and select the ipod in the menu
[03:09] <itsnotabigtruck> and it'll connect the ipod to the vm
[03:09] <itsnotabigtruck> agamemnus: the image file is an ISO, right?
[03:09] <jen> nnnya? I dont know where that is, it says usb
[03:09] <agamemnus> umm yes probably.
[03:09] <itsnotabigtruck> jen: in the menus
[03:09] <Barnabas> agamemnus, have you googled (hard) for a real FreeBasic ubuntu repo?
[03:09] <itsnotabigtruck> agamemnus: you burn it to a disc, boot off of it, install it
[03:10] <itsnotabigtruck> if you use virtualbox, you can go into the properties of the virtual machine, and load the iso file
[03:10] <agamemnus> Barnabas: that's how I went from 20 compile errors to 1
[03:10] <itsnotabigtruck> and it'll look like a real cd to the virtual machin
[03:10] <jen> I have device filters?
[03:10] <Barnabas> agamemnus, what you have now (your sh file) is not a debian / ubuntu repo
[03:10] <Barnabas> it is actually anything else
[03:10] <agamemnus> I think I actually loaded it, but not sure. Someone has to hold my hands
[03:11] <siloxid> what command can I run to see how much RAM I have?  I have ubuntu 10.10
[03:11] <agamemnus> the sh file?
[03:11] <Zeraphing> Whats a good program to share my desktop with another user?
[03:11] <agamemnus> what sh file lolz?
[03:11] <DrPenguin> siloxid: free or cat /proc/meminfo
[03:11] <jen> itsnotabigtruck, I dont really know what you are talking about
[03:11] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: an "sh" file is a POSIX shell script
[03:11] <Barnabas> your "run" file
[03:11] <agamemnus> Ah
[03:12] <Barnabas> is anything else than an ubuntu repo
[03:12] <Barnabas> file
[03:12] <agamemnus> I'll try installing one of the other versions
[03:12] <Barnabas> and if you installed it removing it could be tricky
[03:12] <itsnotabigtruck> jen: maybe it looks different in the linux version...but after you start the virtual machine
[03:12] <agamemnus> And hope
[03:12] <itsnotabigtruck> in the menus, one of them lets you select usb devices
[03:12] <Barnabas> hope - something you do in Church on sundays ..
[03:12] <jen> oh yes, it doesnt even say theres something hooked up
[03:12] <agamemnus> that's pray :X
[03:12] <agamemnus> i might pray too
[03:12] <Barnabas> same thing ..
[03:13] <Barnabas> it will not help you
[03:13] <Barnabas> you need to 1) find a compatible repo to add to your system for installing in debian / ubuntu
[03:13] <jen> itsnotabigtruck, it says no usb attached
[03:13] <Barnabas> 2) compile from scratch
[03:13] <Barnabas> but firstly remove what you have already installed
[03:13] <itsnotabigtruck> jen: oh...no idea
[03:14] <itsnotabigtruck> Barnabas: 'cept i don't think one exists
[03:14] <itsnotabigtruck> freebasic looks like a dead project
[03:14] <jen> aiiiii =_=
[03:14] <agamemnus> :|
[03:14] <itsnotabigtruck> libfreebasic used to be in debian and ubuntu, then it got dropped
[03:14] <itsnotabigtruck> i bet it was dead before ubuntu was a big deal
[03:14] <agamemnus> we don't have a lot of devs
[03:14] <agamemnus> it's new!
[03:14] <agamemnus> ish
[03:14] <agamemnus> started in about 2005
[03:14] <Barnabas> itsnotabigtruck, well installing a 32 bit "run" file on a 64 bit platform and hoping for a linker to figure that out is a dead end imho
[03:15] <itsnotabigtruck> ok, the freebasic repo is getting commits, so it's not dead
[03:15] <itsnotabigtruck> but they aren't taking ubuntu support seriously then
[03:15] <agamemnus> a few people have tried it but all the library dependencies keep changing
[03:15] <itsnotabigtruck> which is surprising
[03:15] <agamemnus> and I guess no one has used mysql yet with ubuntu
[03:15] <agamemnus> and freebasic.
[03:16] <itsnotabigtruck> agamemnus: anyway, read up about compiling stuff on linux...it's easy
[03:16] <itsnotabigtruck> lose the run file
[03:16] <Barnabas> agamemnus, your prime problem is the basic platform compability
[03:16] <itsnotabigtruck> well, it can be easy
[03:16] <agamemnus> the target of fbc is a gcc front end
[03:16] <itsnotabigtruck> since the actual target isn't ubuntu anyway, just forget about this entirely
[03:16] <itsnotabigtruck> you seem to be just creating problems for yourself w/ this
[03:16] <agamemnus> No,
[03:16] <agamemnus> I mean the development target
[03:17] <agamemnus> oh
[03:17] <agamemnus> but yes
[03:17] <agamemnus> but i think it will work with centos anyway
[03:17] <agamemnus> :D
[03:17] <agamemnus> Gotta try at least.
[03:17] <Barnabas> agamemnus, listen to itsnotabigtruck on this :-) you ARE creating problems for yourselves :-)
[03:17] <agamemnus> Or at least.. gotta try somewhere
[03:17] <itsnotabigtruck> wtf, sending a notice to the channel gets you banned?
[03:17] <skilz> itsnotabigtruck: Spam counter measures.
[03:18] <agamemnus> No one has tried compiling fbc on centos
[03:18] <Romance> Hey, while i tried to boot 10.04 it said "cannot write: broken pipe" , i thini i just crashed the system
[03:18] <agamemnus> or fbc p rograms
[03:18] <agamemnus> programs.
[03:18] <agamemnus> but.. yeah.. i might try :|
[03:20]  * Barnabas thinks the 32 bit compability facility in 64 bit ubuntu is a mistake
[03:20] <Barnabas> it should just fail hard ..
[03:20] <jen> =_= virtualbox channel is no help
[03:21] <html> jen,  what do you need?
[03:22] <jen> I cant get my ipod to work on virtualbox, no one can figure it out
[03:23] <Romance> whn i tried to boot it said "could not write: broken pipes"
[03:23] <html> u know theres apps that well work with your ipod?
[03:23] <jen> no I do not
[03:23] <DrPenguin> jen: you can just use gtkpod
[03:23] <Romance> and after run the recovery mode, i am suddenly in Xfce
[03:23] <jen> I have no idea how X_X
[03:24] <jen> it doesnt recognize the files I use or something
[03:25] <karmeeko> is there a software that changes the quality of video when it streams?
[03:25] <karmeeko> for ubuntu
[03:25] <html> so which lol of the many ipods ,do you have?
[03:26] <karmeeko> i just want to down convert some movies so i can stream to my phone when at work
[03:26] <goddard> Happy New year my ubuntu breathren
[03:26] <jen> I just have my ipod touch
[03:27] <Serraphyn> Hi, I'm trying to figure out a way to share my webcam on my linux laptop with a local only webserver, I want to have it in my window to watch people outside from another computer. I've installed webcamd but I'm getting ioctl: VIDIOC_G_STD(std=0x0 []): Invalid argument repeating when i run webcamd start. I'm using ubuntu 11.10 64-bit, everything works fine I can see the camera in Camarama fine.
[03:27] <totesmuhgoats> ubuntu bretheren eh
[03:27] <goddard> brasco disc burner refuses to start after running once
[03:27] <totesmuhgoats> that is truly creepy
[03:28] <Bonno> lose that FloodBot seriously ikonia
[03:28] <goddard> totesmuhgoats: i was speaking directly to you when i said it
[03:28] <jen> yeah I dont like repeating blue XD
[03:28] <totesmuhgoats> goddard: i kinda figured, i have that effect on people
[03:28] <goddard> totesmuhgoats: haha
[03:29] <html> jen,  theres like 4 version of the ipod ,  and other info...
[03:30] <Serraphyn> or can anyone suggest another way to setup my webcam to work were I can do Http://192.168.x.x/ and see my webcam from my local network?
[03:30] <jen> ohh ipod touch 4th gen
[03:31] <agamemnus> ok, thanks for the help guys. happy new year. *sniff*
[03:31] <html> jen,  go to the ubuntu software center and search ipod,,,
[03:31] <goddard> i had an ipod but then didn't like how i had to do all this extra crap to put songs on and off the device
[03:31] <goddard> not good for linux users any way
[03:31] <jen> i have gtk
[03:32] <html> jen,  does it work?
[03:32] <jen> last time I tried to use it it didnt recognize a file format or something idk
[03:33] <caffine> how do i find the /dev device to which a usb device has been bound? apparently, usbcore registered my device with snd-usb-audio, but i'm not sure where or how to find it to use on the command line with mplayer. i can see the video at /dev/video0 but don't know where to find the audio. here are the relevant entries from dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/789239/ here's lsusb:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/789240/ here's what i'm trying t
[03:33] <html> just a sec
[03:33] <html> well try again so i can get the error
[03:34] <iiu7>  I'm using newspost to post on Usenet, but I wonder if there exists a tool for Ubuntu for creating NZB files (not gui)?
[03:34] <html> jen,
[03:35] <jen> hold on
[03:35] <ubuntu> is there a way that I can have a persistance file larger than 4 gb, mine is limited with startup disk creator (32 gb sd card)
[03:37] <spaoc> no.
[03:38] <jen> I dont think its working
[03:39] <ubuntu> is there a way with a different program?
[03:40] <jen> html, no it doesnt work
[03:40] <html> jen,  so what is the error it gives you?
[03:40] <jen> it just doesnt do anything when I try to sync a song
[03:41] <html> did you make sure you have the codecs to run the app?
[03:42] <jen> codecs?
[03:42] <jen> whats that?
[03:43] <Pazooza> It's the descramblers.
[03:43] <Pazooza> Hey, can KDE and gnome coexist friendly?
[03:43] <html> its the  jen
[03:44] <html> its the  jen http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/multimedia/f/codec.htm
[03:44] <jen> the what?
[03:44] <jen> Im not sure
[03:46] <html> jen its what computer and devices that can tell what a fill is,, from a song/or a rss feed(mp3) to a youtube video or a dvd
[03:46] <jen> I beleive so?
[03:46] <html> file*
[03:46] <helli0n> hello
[03:46] <jen> yeah it says its an mp3
[03:48] <html> the check the boxes in the gtkipd app  ,, check all the boxes
[03:48] <Pazooza> How do you get a list, /list don't seem to do nothing with this Qwebirc.
[03:49] <html> the check the boxes in the gtkipd app  ,, check all the boxes jen
[03:49] <SachinDey> Computers are illiterate and they need to learn,
[03:49] <SachinDey> Codecs are a sort of libraries that tell the computer what to do with a specific multimedia file
[03:49] <pangolin> !alis | Pazooza
[03:49] <jen> wait where the heck are these boxes?
[03:50] <SachinDey> Codecs teaches the computer how to read those multimedia files
[03:51] <html> jen,  do you know where you got the program?
[03:51] <jen> oh under prefereences
[03:51] <Bunie> Hey guys! I've been considering switching my server machine over to ubuntu, had a quick question
[03:51] <jen> all the plugins?
[03:52] <html> well try it
[03:52] <helli0n> whats your question?
[03:52] <Bunie> well, it's not only a server machine, it's also what i use from time to time as a personal computer. :P anyways, it has 4GB of ram, was wondering if i should go for a 64-bit build or not
[03:52] <html> under "more info" its there
[03:53] <Bunie> I tried a 64-bit ubuntu a while back and had a bad experience with it, i like Wine and such
[03:53] <Bunie> harder to find drivers, etc.
[03:54] <jen> okay i have all the plugins done and stuff
[03:55] <html> jen, ok it might take a bit to kick in...
[03:55] <Bunie> also if i dont like the new Interface, is there an alternative distro, or an easy way to get the old interface back?
[03:55] <jen> okie doke
[03:56] <jen> stll doesnt work
[03:56] <jen> can you take a look?
[03:56] <html> jen,  just in case u mught need to restart
[03:57] <html> jen,  i though i was ,,, or you mean something else?
[03:57] <jen> teamviewer or something
[03:58] <html> jen,  just to be clear you want to play a song or something?
[03:58] <jen> I will play the song
[03:59] <jmscomtech> wats withh #ubuntu-unregged? im already registerd but iot keeps asking if im a bot
[03:59] <jen> it works
[03:59] <jen> the song works
[04:00] <Resistance> jmscomtech:  are you identified?
[04:00] <jen> but syncing doesnt
[04:00] <jmscomtech> yes
[04:00] <jmscomtech> always identified upon login
[04:00] <Resistance> jmscomtech:  are you identified before trying to join the channel?
[04:00] <Resistance> :p
[04:00] <jmscomtech> yes
[04:00] <Resistance> jmscomtech:  you might've been caught in the throttles
[04:00] <Resistance> i.e. the join throttle
[04:00] <jmscomtech> hmm maybe
[04:00] <html> jmccrohan,  its been doing that today , ,, but just go with it
[04:01] <jen> html, well the song works
[04:02] <html> jen,  so did it work before i helped you, or just now?
[04:02] <jen> the song works but I cant get anything on my ipod
[04:03] <jen> im prolly doing something wrong
[04:03] <Bunie> Cmon someone help out a linux nub Q~Q
[04:04] <jen> watcha need bunie?
[04:04] <jen> html, improlly doing something wrong
[04:04] <html> jen,  im still thinkin its the codecs ,,,, so google ipod codecs .... and see what you get
[04:05] <Bunie> Does wine have a 64-bit build?
[04:05] <Bunie> and if not, is 4GB of ram fine for a 32-bit build of Ubuntu?
[04:05] <DrPenguin> Bunie: wine works on 64bit
[04:05] <jen> Bunie,  i think it all depends on your computer, wine will work with anything im sure
[04:05] <html> Bunie,  of course ,,,  lot  but i will get you the hope ,,,
[04:06] <jen> my ipod has mp4 or 3 or what not, its the app
[04:06] <Bunie> i had a bad experience with 64-bit ubuntu a long while back, with drivers and such. if i were you, with 4GB of ram, wich would you go with?
[04:06] <html> jen,  just a sec
[04:06] <rileyp> Is there an easy way i can send commands to my serial port via irexec
[04:07] <rileyp> Is there an easy way i can send commands to my serial port via a script
[04:07] <DrPenguin> rileyp: naively, you should just be able to send data to the port by echoing to the device node
[04:07] <Bunie> if you were me* lols
[04:08] <Bunie> and wich is faster/better, XFCE or LDE? :P
[04:08] <DrPenguin> Bunie: imho LXDE
[04:08] <Bunie> faster/more ram efficient.. Basically wich one serves its purpose better
[04:08] <rileyp> yeah I know i can use this in terminal and it work s echo -e "VOLM18  \r" >/dev/ttyUSB0
[04:08] <rileyp> Bunie but in a script it does not
[04:09] <DrPenguin> rileyp: whether its in a script or in terminal, that will work the same
[04:09] <rileyp> no it s not for me
[04:09] <Bunie> trying to pick out wich ubuntu distro is for me :P are they all well supported? I've also wondered, i know Ubuntu gets system updates, However, when something such as, ubuntu 12 comes out, will i be updated to it, or will i need to reinstall?
[04:09] <rileyp> my script contains exact same text and when i run the script i get an err
[04:09] <DrPenguin> rileyp: well that doesnt make sense.. whats the error
[04:10] <rileyp> but from terminal the tv responds and say ok
[04:11] <html> http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/specs.html   jen is this urs
[04:11] <Bunie> is Lubuntu ran/handled by the same team as Ubuntu? Updates and support and such?
[04:12] <Resistance> Bunie:  i think they have their own dev team...
[04:12] <Resistance> but sometimes they show up in here
[04:12] <html> jen, ?
[04:12] <jen> the black one yes
[04:12] <Resistance> !lubuntu | Bunie
[04:12] <jen> html, the black one yes
[04:12] <html> !ipod
[04:12] <Resistance> Bunie:  that should sufficiently answer your question, but feel free to ask away in here.
[04:12] <html> jen would u like to pm?
[04:13] <jen> yeah
[04:13] <rileyp> I know its crazy echo -e "VOLM18  \r" >/dev/ttyUSB0 works to change volume on my tv when ran from a terminal directly. when I creat a script that contains exact same text and make it executible it does not work
[04:13] <DrPenguin> rileyp: that doesnt help. you need to tell us WHAT is going wrong
[04:13] <html> !RockBox
[04:14] <Bunie> Resistance: Thanks :D I joined their a second ago. I'm really interested in switching over to a linux distro, but like any windows user, i need to be weened lols
[04:14] <rileyp> I even added a line echo this is crazy and the text comes up
[04:14] <DrPenguin> rileyp: dude. stop being cryptic. stop with the side tracking. just TELL us whats wrong
[04:14] <html> jen,  ok im pming u
[04:14] <Resistance> Bunie:  heh, well all the Ubuntu distros are decent, but imo, 11.10 has a mess of problems with it, bugs and what not.
[04:15] <Resistance> Bunie:  and fwiw, i'm a KDE user, and i help GNOME users here :P
[04:15] <Resistance> case-in-point for non-GNOME users showing up in the standard ubuntu channel
[04:15] <Bunie> Resistance: I think i've chosen lubuntu as my distro, it looks the most windows like and i've been told by a complete stranger that it has the highest performance
[04:16] <rileyp> so the script runs but the tv responds with err when I view the serial port using cat  I dont know waht other info i can provide
[04:16] <Resistance> Bunie:  IMO performance is dependent on hardware and use-case of an OS
[04:16] <Resistance> Bunie:  most techies will agree with that
[04:16] <DrPenguin> rileyp: i dont know maybe the error would be nice...
[04:17] <rileyp> DrPenguin,  the tv volume doesnt change and the tv responds via the serial port err
[04:17] <Bunie> Resistance: the pc im installing it on has a poor graphics card, i dont think it'd handle all that pretty stuff gnome does too well
[04:17] <DrPenguin> rileyp: ok, your dancing around the issue, your not answering my quesitons, im done with you . figure it out on your own
[04:17] <Resistance> Bunie:  xfce's relatively low resource, fwiw
[04:18] <rileyp> DrPenguin,  I'm sorry i want help but I dont know how to find the problem
[04:18] <Bunie> Resistance: Sorry for spamming you guys lol but like, i use Firefox nightly, from here http://nightly.mozilla.org/ will this be a simple install as it is on windows? (is that linux build compatable, i mean)
[04:18] <Resistance> Bunie:  standby, got to fix one of my bots in one of my projects' channels
[04:19] <rileyp> DrPenguin,  i really appreciate your help I thought it may be syntax error in the way echo needs to used in a script rather than from a terminal
[04:20] <freenodiz> > hi,I have a noobquestion.Imagine i set my hostname to "plato" andthe domainused to make the FQDN is "mydomain.com".It'srecommended the use of the "domain.com"toserve web pages in the server?Or should ihave tocreate vhosts?what i don#t really get isthedifference in the usage of the FQDN and domains that are set with the vhosts...
[04:21] <freenodiz> arghhh...sry,i hate ice chat...if i copy and paste the text get togheter
[04:25] <bluezone_> What the succes rate in upgrading to 10.10?
[04:25] <bluezone_> should i bother backing up my files?
[04:26] <mebigfatguy> yes
[04:26] <Resistance> bluezone_:  the success rate is irrelevant for backing up your files.  ***ALWAYS*** back up your files
[04:27] <bluezone_> Resistance: well i dont really have anything important on here... hmmmm
[04:27] <Resistance> bluezone_:  you should always back up your files, but note that 10.10 is almost EOL, only a few months left in its lifespan (if i recall correctly)
[04:27] <brophat> anyone have any recommendations for an email notifier?
[04:33] <edusachs> hi...
[04:34] <edusachs> happy new year...
[04:34] <brophat> I am sitting tight for the new great year
[04:35] <edusachs> :)
[04:38] <rileyp> echo -e "VOLM20  \r" > /dev/ttyUSB0 works from a terminal to adjust volume on my tv  in a script I get an error back from my tv and the volume does not change can anyone help
[04:39] <rileyp> is it the way > is handled in a script as opposed to in the terminal ?
[04:51] <pconwell> Question: When installing ubuntu server, there is an option to install the package "virtualization host" (or something similar)... What is it installing?
[04:51] <pconwell> KVM?
[04:52] <TheAncientGoat> Hi, I installed openjdk-7-jre and openjdk-6-jre:386 successfully, and then tried installing openjdk-7-jre:i386 which gave me errors, so I uninstalled all of my java packages
[04:52] <TheAncientGoat> that still didn't work, so I reinstalled all the java packages
[04:53] <TheAncientGoat> and now they show up as installed, but when I enter java into the command line, it says that it isnt installed
[04:53] <TheAncientGoat> I can see the java binaries
[04:53] <TheAncientGoat> but It isn't linked into /usr/bin
[04:53] <pconwell> TheAncientGoat: what happens if you try update-alterntives... or whatever the command it?
[04:53] <TheAncientGoat> yeah, says there arent any alternatives
[04:54] <pconwell> where do they show up installed? Symentic?
[04:54] <TheAncientGoat> yeah
[04:54] <TheAncientGoat> and in apt-get
[04:54] <TheAncientGoat> and yes, I did try re-installing them
[04:54] <pconwell> and what happens if you try to re-uninstall them?
[04:54] <TheAncientGoat> hmm, lemme try purging them
[04:55] <pconwell> yeah, I was about to say try sudo aptitude remove --purge blah blah
[04:56] <skilz> In firefox is there anyway to customize the Downloads window as to remove the search bar and or 'Clear List' button?
[04:56] <TheAncientGoat> I should actually reinstall
[04:56] <TheAncientGoat> because I selected btrfs as my root partition
[04:56] <TheAncientGoat> :|
[04:56] <rileyp> echo -e "VOLM20  \r" > /dev/ttyUSB0 works from a terminal to adjust volume on my tv  in a script I get an error back from my tv and the volume does not change can anyone help
[04:56] <TheAncientGoat> that is a friggin huge issue with the installer
[04:57] <TheAncientGoat> it takes like 5 minutes to boot
[04:58] <TheAncientGoat> pconwell: ok, cool, that worked
[04:58] <TheAncientGoat> sudo apt-get purge openjdk*
[04:58] <TheAncientGoat> and then just reinstall
[04:59] <TheAncientGoat> gaaah
[04:59] <TheAncientGoat> Exception in thread "main" java.awt.HeadlessException
[04:59] <pconwell> well... that's not as good...
[05:00] <ParkerR> Happy New Year!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:01] <pconwell> one more hour...
[05:01]  * fxhp lols
[05:04] <TheAncientGoat> biz freaking zarre
[05:04] <phong_> happy new year everyone
[05:05] <pconwell> phong_: you are everywhere!
[05:05] <puff_> the floodbots are annoying
[05:06] <pconwell> puff_: yes, but also entertaining
[05:06] <pconwell> ...sometimes
[05:06] <TheAncientGoat> ok, on openjdk-7 it doesn't give the error
[05:07] <TheAncientGoat> but minecraft then gives elf errors
[05:07] <puff_> hey bot, how do you instantiate a class in java
[05:07] <aritra> byeeeeeee
[05:07] <puff_> ooo minecraft
[05:07] <puff_> I just built a new server for my son to run his minecraft server on
[05:08] <DrPenguin> puff: thats not really a question for here..
[05:08] <puff_> it is top of the line state of the art 64bit amd
[05:08] <DrPenguin> but I can answer java questions, im fluent in java
[05:08] <pangolin> ##java
[05:08] <puff_> oh I was just pokin fun at the bawts
[05:08] <mark_> hi is there a driver for a canon mx 420
[05:08] <puff_> I am too
[05:09] <puff_> I prefer C++ though
[05:09] <puff_> I do like ubuntu so far
[05:09] <dr_willis>  !printers
[05:09] <puff_> just settling in doing updates etc
[05:09] <ThomasBoxley> puff_: !off-topic
[05:09] <ThomasBoxley> puff_: !offtopic
[05:09] <ThomasBoxley> puff_: !ot
[05:09] <ThomasBoxley> idk
[05:09] <ThomasBoxley> <_<
[05:09] <mark_> lol
[05:09] <pangolin> ThomasBoxley: the syntax is
[05:10] <pangolin> !offtopic
[05:10] <mark_> hi is there a driver for a canon mx 420
[05:10] <DrPenguin> ThomasBoxley: the syntax is: !command | person
[05:10] <ThomasBoxley> thanks,
[05:10] <puff_> rofl
[05:10] <ThomasBoxley> !offtopic | puff_
[05:10] <mark_> hi is there a driver for a canon mx 420
[05:10] <dr_willis>  !printers | mark_
[05:11] <puff_> dude I am a died in the wool BSD user I am just trying ubuntu on this box so far I like it
[05:11] <ThomasBoxley> bsd is dying
[05:11]  * puff_ trouts peer with extreme prejudice
[05:11] <mark_> unn yaa i know
[05:12] <Sintrigue> mark_  :  http://support-sg.canon-asia.com/contents/SG/EN/0100329702.html
[05:12] <mark_> but i need to know what driver i need for cups
[05:12] <puff_> cups is a bear
[05:12] <puff_> I will bet dollars to donuts the cups site has help for drivers
[05:13] <pconwell> mark_: dumb question... did you try just plugin it in?
[05:14] <puff_> odd this install has not mention the 11.1 update yet do I need to initiate that myself it did it for me on the other box
[05:14] <ThomasBoxley> puff_: there is no 11.1 update.
[05:14] <puff_> umm I have another box running 11.1 right now
[05:14] <puff_> it updated last night
[05:15] <ThomasBoxley> puff_: there's 11.04 and 11.10, no such thing as 11.1
[05:15] <pangolin> no you don't, the version number is 11.10.
[05:15] <puff_> lol
[05:15] <puff_> picky picky
[05:15] <mark_> wow a smart ass
[05:15] <pangolin> I'll drop a 0 of your paycheck see how that suits you
[05:15] <Bunie> Hey guys im curious about Linux and defragmenting
[05:15] <quiescens> that's really very pedantic considering the lack of relevance
[05:15] <quiescens> lol
[05:15] <spaoc> NO.
[05:15] <puff_> it's called fsck
[05:15] <pangolin> !defrag | Bunie
[05:15] <spaoc> hi pangolin
[05:16] <_rb_> what is the best way to install flash on Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit?
[05:16] <Bunie> I've read places that say, Linux doesnt need to defragment. But logic tells me based on how disks write, any system would need to.
[05:16] <pconwell> quiescens: not really. 11.1 would imply a release in january, 11.10 is realease in OCT... as in 10th month
[05:16] <puff_> oddly it has not prompted the update as of yet\
[05:16] <xangua> _rb_: with the software center
[05:17] <spaoc> badgolin
[05:17] <spaoc> mangolin
[05:17] <xangua> _rb_: you can also go to adobe.com
[05:17] <ThomasBoxley> puff_: It's not going to prompt any update. There is no update from 11.04 to 11.10. They're two different release versions of Ubuntu.
[05:17] <ThomasBoxley> puff_: Well, there's the dist upgrade, but why not just install 11.10 in the firstp lace?
[05:18] <pconwell> Hey, I asked this a min ago, but no one responded, so I'll ask again (I don't want to be annoying)
[05:18] <pangolin> puff_: run: sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:18] <pconwell> Question: When installing ubuntu server, there is an option to install the package "virtualization host" (or something similar)... What is it installing?
[05:18] <ThomasBoxley> pconwell: packages to make virtualization of Ubuntu server easier.
[05:19] <pconwell> KVM?
[05:19] <puff_> my iso was not 11.10
[05:19] <ThomasBoxley> puff_: Was it 11.04?
[05:19] <puff_> lemme check
[05:19] <_rb_> xangua in adobe.com I have .rpm and .tar, which should I do?
[05:20] <DrPenguin> _rb_: the tar should be the source to compile.. the rpm can be converted ot a deb with alien
[05:20] <puff_> 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:20] <_rb_> DrPenguin, woosh. Way over my head.
[05:20] <ThomasBoxley> puff_: that doesn't say the version of Ubuntu you're running
[05:20] <puff_> where do I get version?
[05:20] <quiescens> puff_: lsb_release -a
[05:21] <dr_willis> _rb_:  its best to use the software center to install flash
[05:21] <puff_> Description:	Ubuntu 11.04
[05:21] <puff_> Release:	11.04
[05:21] <puff_> Codename:	natty
[05:21] <xangua> _rb_: weird, adobe.com no longer mention the partner repositosi; but like i said first you can install it with the software center
[05:21] <jeaton> anybody else turned off by ubuntu 11.XX because of Unity?
[05:21] <xangua> partner repository*
[05:21] <puff_> geebus it be da natty dread
[05:21] <pangolin> puff_: run: sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:21] <robin0800> _rb_: there should also be a 32bit deb on their site
[05:21] <ThomasBoxley> puff_: yes, running sudo do-release-upgrade will upgrade you to 11.10
[05:21] <overclucker> _rb_: adobe does provide a deb
[05:21] <pconwell> jeaton: I was at first... 11.10 beta was HORRIBLE... but it has gotten much, much better
[05:21] <dr_willis> jeaton:  not really.. and that may be a better discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:22] <ThomasBoxley> jeaton: GNOME Shell can be easily installed in 11.10
[05:22] <puff_> running
[05:22] <puff_> ...
[05:22] <jeaton> yeah, I ended up installing gnome shell, it just seems broken
[05:22] <jeaton> I ended up jumping back to 10.04
[05:22] <robin0800> jeaton: try gnome-panel
[05:23] <puff_> holy smoke INCOMING!!!!
[05:23] <ThomasBoxley> !offtopic | puff_
[05:23] <puff_> o_0
[05:24] <quiescens> i thought puff_ asking how to upgrade from one release to the next sounded pretty much on topic really
[05:24] <pangolin> it was
[05:24] <ThomasBoxley> holy smoke INCOMING!!!!!
[05:25] <pangolin> the continous off topic remarks are not
[05:25] <puff_> well I was referring to the huge explosions
[05:25] <puff_> it's new years eve here
[05:25] <ThomasBoxley> ubuntu is exploding?
[05:25] <puff_> no but everything around here is
[05:25] <ThomasBoxley> new years eve is off topic. please don't take it personally, but off topic remarks can distract from other people's questions puff_
[05:25] <pangolin> I realize it is new years and we are all bored but please try to keep this channel for support only. #ubuntu-offtopic would be more than happy to entertain you.
[05:25] <puff_> I'll hush
[05:32] <pconwell> ThomasBoxley:
[05:33] <ThomasBoxley> pconwell:
[05:33] <pconwell> Sorry, do you know if it installs KVM?
[05:34] <ThomasBoxley> No, I don't pconwell. I'll look it up
[05:35] <ThomasBoxley> pconwell: yes, it does
[05:35] <pconwell> ThomasBoxley: thanks, that's what I thought... any opinions on KVM vs virtualbox?
[05:35] <ahhughes> is it possible to listen in on a bluetooth device I/O to see if data is actually being sent/received from the device?
[05:35] <ThomasBoxley> pconwell: no, sorry. I've only ever used VB on Ubuntu
[05:35] <Chipzzz> I have an Oneiric desktop installation with a VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) audio board. I'm getting 5.1 channels on USB headphones but the front L & R channels are dead out of audio board... any ideas?
[05:36] <pconwell> me too, but I figured i would give KVM a try since ubuntu (cononical) seems to push it so much
[05:36] <DrPenguin> Chipzzz: using the correct audio codec?
[05:36] <pconwell> canonical*
[05:37] <Chipzzz> DrPenguin: Hi & Happy New Year... using "speaker-test -c6"...
[05:38] <Chipzzz> ... the codecs should be the same for the USB 'phones, no?
[05:38] <freenodiz> hello,is there a way to have a log for ssh somewhere?i need to know what i've doing/scripting since i installed the server...
[05:39] <DrPenguin> Chipzzz: i dunno..
[05:39] <DrPenguin> freenodiz: there may be a log in /var/log
[05:39] <freenodiz> ok
[05:40] <Chipzzz> Freenodiz: for the server or client?
[05:41] <freenodiz> for the things i've doing trough ssh,not sure if it's server or client Chipzzz
[05:41] <freenodiz> like a log with the commands i inserted,such as apt-get and the results
[05:42] <robbbie> freenodiz: you won't find logs of your terminal sessions unless you tee them somewhere, you can check your history of commands though
[05:43] <freenodiz> ohh,ok robbie.
[05:43] <Chipzzz> freenodiz: you could also check the server logs for the times you were logged in (your logins should be in the auth log)
[05:44] <freenodiz> ok
[05:50] <freenodiz> what's the difference? apt-get update AND apt-get upgrade --show-upgraded ?
[05:51] <DrPenguin> update syncs your repositories
[05:52] <freenodiz> i see,so the first syncs than the other actually does the upgrade...ty
[05:53] <puff_> upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages currently installed on the system
[05:53] <DrPenguin> freenodiz: having out of sync repositories may result in you not getting the most up to date packages, and even maybe not seeing a package at all
[05:53] <puff_> info is your friend
[05:53] <freenodiz> yeap,go it,ty all
[05:55] <puff_> 13mbps and still 32 mins to go on the dist update
[05:56] <puff_> uhh 26
[05:56] <Shane_> when my comp is unplugged it turns off unexpected. i try to reboot and it freezes on the purple screen
[05:57] <puff_> umm this is going to give me a chance to finish my apache2 install I hope before it reboots\
[05:57] <DrPenguin> wait.. you dont expect it to turn off when you unplug it?
[05:57] <Resistance> Shane_:  this is why you don't unplug your computer.  And it could be an unclean system which you have to clean with an fsck
[05:57] <puff_> maybe he means a laptop
[05:57] <Chipzzz> Laptop, no doubt... is the battery weak, maybe?
[05:58] <DrPenguin> right.. but if the battery is junky or has no power..
[05:58] <Shane_> ha yeah trust me i have it tape to the comp its a laptop
[05:58] <Shane_> no its faulty hardware
[05:58] <puff_> rofl
[05:58] <puff_> make a nice paperweight though
[05:58] <Shane_> is there a way to backup ubuntu through windows
[05:59] <DrPenguin> Shane_: if you can mount the drive yeah.. there are Linux filesystem drivers for windows
[06:00] <ThomasBoxley> Happy New Year!
[06:00] <Chipzzz> You too, Tom
[06:01] <Shane_> k that will be my last resort how do you go to ubuntus equivalent safe mode recovery i think from boot im on dual boot with windows 7 tried the left shift
[06:02] <jeaton> !offtopic | ThomasBoxley
[06:02] <lifestream> Silly question, anyone know the unicode character that creates a new line? I see they do it in video games, where typically, pressing enter would start a new chat line.
[06:02] <ThomasBoxley> It was an automatic message from a pidgin plugin, jeaton.
[06:02] <jeaton> \n
[06:03] <jeaton> ThomasBoxley, i'm only kidding, Happy New Years!
[06:03] <DFan247> Happy New Years everyone!!!
[06:03] <Resistance> !offtopic | DFan247
[06:06] <puff_> idiots with guns annoy me
[06:07] <Shane_> how do i launch ubuntu in recovery mode on dual boot
[06:08] <jeaton> do you have a recovery mode entry in grub?
[06:08] <Kiten> happy new years ;p
[06:09] <oscalation> anyone here that has some knoweledge about ubuntu forums? Im wanting to know if i can change my membername/username
[06:09] <Shane_> cant get on ubuntu it freezes on purp screen
[06:09] <Kiten> oscalation, you'd have to ask one of the admins
[06:09] <oscalation> Kiten, any of them ever around in here?
[06:09] <Kiten> oscalation, there is a list of admins at the bottom of the page on the forums
[06:10] <Kiten> oscalation, i'm not sure haven't actually checked
[06:10] <Chipzzz> Shane_: You should be able to get into grub before it boots to Ubuntu
[06:10] <puff_> man grub internals
[06:10] <jeaton> Shane_, hold down shift before it boots in grub, hoping you have a reocvery option for ubuntu
[06:10] <puff_> edit the grub config'
[06:10] <puff_> ugh
[06:11] <puff_> no you can't
[06:11] <Kiten> i use to know how to get to single user mode but i've long since forgotten
[06:11] <Shane_> i never set one
[06:12] <Chipzzz> Shane_: you can use the server CD to get in
[06:12] <puff_> puff@honilee:~$ man grub
[06:12] <puff_> No manual entry for grub
[06:12] <puff_> sorry
[06:13] <Shane_> k im in thanks
[06:13] <Kiten> puff man -k grub
[06:14] <puff_> doh
[06:14] <Kiten> :P
[06:14] <lifestream> Hi, I want to use windows flashboot to install a ISO to USB (No, I don't want to use unetbootin),  if I use flashboot inside a windows virtualbox, does that virtualbox window recognize my usb stick as a usb stick?
[06:14] <Kiten> -k is very useful if you don't know the name of the man page you need
[06:14] <puff_> grub-reboot looks like the ticket
[06:15] <Chipzzz> apropos grub is helpful as well
[06:15] <dr_willis> lifestream:  it can if you configure it right.
[06:16] <dr_willis> lifestream:  see the vbox manual/guides at its homepage. or the factoid pages.
[06:16] <lifestream> dr_willis, thanks, if I recall  correctly, it only mounted filesystems as network mounts, and it was very slow :)
[06:16] <dr_willis> !vbox
[06:16] <dr_willis> lifestream:  it can access it directly
[06:17] <puff_> grub-mkrescue     - make a GRUB rescue image
[06:18] <puff_> doubt the problem is there though the problem is the fs is fscked
[06:18] <puff_> reinstall would probaly be the best soluyion
[06:18] <puff_> s/y/t
[06:19] <oscalation> any ubuntu forum mods about?
[06:19] <jeaton> oscalation, why not just create a new name?
[06:20] <dr_willis> i think they got their own channel.
[06:20] <dr_willis> !forums
[06:20] <oscalation> dr_willis, thanks
[06:20] <oscalation> jeaton, email is already associated with my other forums account
[06:21] <jeaton> you should be able to change the email to something random and register a new account with the email you're needing
[06:24] <Bunie> im using lubuntu but no one will answer me over there. how do i connect to a wireless network?
[06:25] <Chr|s_> !wireless
[06:26] <dr_willis> Bunie:  icon at the bottom right for network manager i think.
[06:26] <hawks008> top right
[06:26] <dr_willis> Lubuntu  has panel at bottom i recall. not at the top
[06:27] <hawks008> oppsie...didnt see that
[06:27] <Bunie> doesnt say anything when i left click it other then wired network =/
[06:27] <pythonirc101> anyone running two moniotors on an ubuntu guest in virtualbox by any chance>
[06:27] <jeaton> have you ever used your wireless card in lubuntu?
[06:28] <Bunie> jeaton: no but i used it back in ubuntu 9 or 10
[06:31] <html> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!
[06:31] <urlin2u> Bunie, Is the lubuntu a lubuntu install or a added desktop on ubuntu or another?
[06:32] <Bunie> its a fresh lubuntu install
[06:32] <aBound> Happy Ubuntu New Year.
[06:32] <puff_> no network icon?
[06:33] <Chipzzz> Happy Nubuntu Year!
[06:33] <jeaton> what kind of wireless adapter are you using?
[06:35] <jeaton> adapter/card/t
[06:38] <Bunie> Broadcom
[06:38] <Bunie> is all i can tell ya.
[06:38] <Bunie> lol
[06:38] <aBound> Dang, the broadcom driver. :P
[06:38] <puff_> is built in
[06:38] <Bunie> then whys it not work lol
[06:39] <puff_> it does work
[06:39] <Bunie> then why doesnt it? D:
[06:39] <Bunie> the hardware light is off, even
[06:40] <puff_> I dunno what to tell ya I am on it right now
[06:40] <puff_> in the middle of an upgrade
[06:40] <Bunie> Im using Lubuntu, im gonna try Ubuntu, as much as i dislike the interface
[06:41] <freenodiz> how do i install git and curl?just apt-get install git curl ?
[06:41] <Bunie> Random question, if i use the ubuntu  12.04 daily, when 12.04 does release can i run apt-get upgrade or will i upgrade to dailies or what?
[06:41] <jeaton> lspci -v
[06:41] <jeaton> try that and tell me what model
[06:42] <urlin2u> Bunie, the daily install has the same repos.
[06:42] <kag_anil> what are the current focuses of future ubuntu releases??
[06:42] <dr_willis> Lubuntu and ubuntu use same wireless drivers underneeth Bunie
[06:43] <Bunie> then why am i having such bad luck with my D520 D;
[06:43] <dr_willis> kag_anil:  for the next release i think its bug fix;s and 'polishing' the interface/os
[06:43] <puff_> lubuntu files are in this distro yes
[06:44] <Bunie> dr_willis: got Team Viewer? D; u could help me Q~Q
[06:44] <puff_> 520?
[06:45] <Bunie> D520 :p is my laptop model, Dell
[06:45] <puff_> subsystem?
[06:45] <puff_> oh
[06:45] <kag_anil> dr_willis: how can a beginner contribute to ubuntu?? i have experience of c,c++,java programming and a few more languages..
[06:45] <freenodiz> how do i install git on ubuntu lucid?apt-get install git doesn't work
[06:46] <puff_> I just noticed my ethernet sub is not a broadcom
[06:46] <Chipzzz> Bunie: 512 Meg ram?
[06:46] <Bunie> 4GB now
[06:46] <puff_> Subsystem: ADMtek Device 0570
[06:46] <Bunie> but came with 512 yes
[06:46] <user____> I'm not sure if this should go here or in the xubuntu channel, but:
[06:46] <user____> I'm trying to copy an SD card that has xubuntu installed on it but I can't beacuse ubuntu(what I'm running now) says that I don't have permision to read certain files. So how do I go about backing it up?
[06:47] <pythonirc101> I'm setting display configuration using "Displays" but the changes are not saved in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:47] <pythonirc101> where are they saved?
[06:47] <jeaton> freenodiz, sudo apt-get install git-core
[06:47] <puff_> chown
[06:47] <freenodiz> ty jeaton :)
[06:47] <Chipzzz> Bunie: did you lspci -v to find out the Broadcom model?
[06:47] <Guest2470> how do i get wine to work
[06:47] <puff_> drink it\
[06:47] <Bunie> wuh? is that possible? lols
[06:48] <Bunie> im a windows noobi D;
[06:48] <Guest2470> no
[06:48] <Guest2470> wine on li uz
[06:48] <Guest2470> linux
[06:48] <Bunie> Broadcom corporation BCM 4401-B0
[06:48] <Bunie> then a 2nd one is listed, BCM4311
[06:48] <pythonirc101> anyone knows where the "displays" gui saves display config?
[06:48] <Bunie> it looks more like it
[06:48] <puff_> chown [OPTION]... {NEW-OWNER | --reference=REF_FILE} FILE...
[06:49] <Bunie> Yeh BCM4311
[06:49] <puff_> * works wonders
[06:50] <freenodiz> how can i list all packages installed?
[06:50] <dr_willis> BCM cards need extra drivers/files via the 'addational-drivers' tool dont they?
[06:50] <puff_> yeap
[06:50] <puff_> but support for that card is already in ubuntu
[06:50] <Bunie> dr_willis: I did that using a wired connection, still not working
[06:50] <Chipzzz> curious that two BCMs should be listed
[06:51] <puff_> I will consult the ORACLE
[06:51] <jeaton> is your card dead, you said the light isnt lit up?
[06:51] <almoxarife> freenodiz: got a terminal open?
[06:52] <freenodiz> yeap,almoxarife,terminal is open
[06:52] <jeaton> Bunie, do you have a dual boot setup?
[06:52] <Bunie> It's off, it works in windowls.
[06:52] <almoxarife> freenodiz: type synaptic
[06:52] <Bunie> jeaton: Running from persistant usb
[06:52] <jeaton> IMPORTANT: If dual-booting Windows and Ubuntu, be sure to enable the card (wireless light is on) in Windows before booting Ubuntu, otherwise it will not work.
[06:52] <almoxarife> freenodiz: yes, its ok not to have admin rights
[06:53] <freenodiz> almoxarife, synaptic doesn't do nothing
[06:53] <freenodiz> i have root acess for now
[06:54] <almoxarife> freenodiz: does nothing? does/does not open?
[06:54] <freenodiz> command not found...
[06:54] <freenodiz> i may have to install it first
[06:54] <puff_> it does open the package selector
[06:55] <almoxarife> freenodiz: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:55] <html> what channel is it that i can talk to channel opS maybe cuz they kicked me?
[06:55] <Bunie> what if u try to drag a file out of package manager and the interface freezes?
[06:55] <Bunie> what can i do to unfreeze it D;
[06:56] <Bunie> screw this im trying ubuntu D;
[06:56] <jeaton> Bunie, did you see that note I pasted
[06:56] <almoxarife> Bunie: dragging a pckg out would be a trick, I wouldn't do it
[06:56] <puff_> good choice
[06:56] <aBound> brb
[06:56] <Bunie> i wouldnt expect the entire interface to freeze because of one program D;
[06:57] <puff_> next time though synaptic& would be a better choice
[06:57] <freenodiz> ok,install.but i got this error (synaptic:8437): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[06:58] <puff_> yeaP NOT ROOT
[06:58] <puff_> oops
[06:58] <Chipzzz> Bunie: the program that froze is probably nautilus... messes up  the whole desktop
[06:58] <puff_> sudo synaptic&
[06:58] <Bunie> well then nautilus needs to not suck =[ Lols
[06:58] <freenodiz> so i can't run stuff as root?lol
[06:58] <almoxarife> puff_: add the nick you are talking at
[06:58] <puff_> sure ya can
[06:59] <dr_willis> it sould be 'gksudo synaptic'
[06:59] <Chipzzz> Bunie: lol... you know about the "magic keys"?
[06:59] <Bunie> only like CTRL+ALT+F1, etc.
[06:59] <almoxarife> freenodiz: you are in a 'root' terminal?
[06:59] <freenodiz> yes,i am
[06:59] <Bunie> to switch between... i dunno what the term for it is lols
[06:59] <almoxarife> freenodiz: in ubuntu? don't do that, get out of root window
[06:59] <freenodiz> i mean,i'm ssh in a remote server,as root
[07:00] <puff_> don't trust it
[07:00] <freenodiz> ohh cmon...would ya..
[07:00] <puff_> just sudo
[07:00] <Chipzzz> Bunie: Hold down Alt+PrtSc and then r e i s u and o... the machine will shut down gracefully
[07:00] <Chipzzz> (r e i s u and o one at a time in that order)
[07:00] <dr_willis> consoles = alt-ctrl-f1 through F6 normally. F7 to get back to X... :)
[07:00] <almoxarife> freenodiz: forget everything I said, remove the package I asked you to install, you are in a server
[07:01] <Bunie> cant i just switch with CTRL+ALT+F1, and type shutdown or somethin?
[07:01] <jeaton> why not switch to a different terminal and kill the process
[07:01] <Bunie> thats what i mean! :P
[07:01] <Bunie> restart Gnome :D
[07:01] <Bunie> or w/e
[07:01] <Bunie> lols
[07:01] <puff_> wtf unpacking girl.3?
[07:01] <Chipzzz> Bunie: try, but if it doesn't work, the "magic keys" are the last resort that always works
[07:02] <freenodiz> almoxarife,what's the command to unistall that?will it removes all those dependencies?
[07:02] <jeaton> not necessarly gnome, but nautilus
[07:02] <jeaton> and reopen it
[07:02] <Bunie> my magic key is holding down the power button D;
[07:02] <puff_> good way to corrupt a fs
[07:02] <Bunie> lol i kno
 you people forget out to tag the nick you are talking to??????????????????
[07:02] <Chipzzz> puff_: that works but the file system doesn't like it as much
[07:03] <Bunie> ppl always say linux is more stable then windows, but thats looking like BS D;
[07:03] <almoxarife> freenodiz: sudo apt-get remove synaptic
[07:03] <puff_> Bunie: you scare me
[07:03] <Bunie> How? Q~Q
[07:03] <Bunie> i has cookies ._.
[07:03] <jeaton> puff, what corrupts the fs?
[07:03] <puff_> Bunie: my fs is shaking in its boots
[07:03] <Chipzzz> I can has a cookie?
[07:03] <Bunie> lol
[07:03] <Bunie> i was joking about the power button thing
[07:04] <Chipzzz> lol
[07:04] <Bunie> but srsly, holding down two keys while pressing every key on my keyboard? D; srs?
[07:04] <Bunie> sound like troll stuff.
[07:04] <Chipzzz> No, the "magic keys" are real... I'll find you a link
[07:04] <puff_> Bunie: shutdown -h now is OK
[07:04] <almoxarife> dr_willis: what's that ! tag for use a damm nick to refer??
[07:05] <puff_> lol here we go
[07:05] <freenodiz> how do i remove synaptic ?
[07:05] <almoxarife> freenodiz: sudo apt-get remove synaptic
[07:05] <freenodiz> ok
[07:05] <puff_> freenodiz: scroll up
[07:06] <freenodiz> sry,i didn't see
[07:06] <Chipzzz> Bunie: Here you go... near the bottom "safe reboot" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[07:06] <puff_> shutdown -r now is a reboot
[07:07] <jeaton> heh, i didnt know about the magic keys either
[07:07] <almoxarife> anyone else seeing the 'ssl handshake error' on return from suspend?
[07:07] <Chipzzz> "reisub" reboots and "reisuo" shuts the machine down
[07:07] <puff_> will try that
[07:07] <freenodiz> i'm impressed with synaptic,,it's so many packages in there...i don't even feel like reading ...yuck,lol
[07:07] <aBound> freenodiz, lol
[07:08] <puff_> Chipzzz: I just want a warning when this upgrade finishes
[07:08] <pythonirc101> my monitor resolution is not being detected by "displays" -- how can I manually modify it? xorg.conf?
[07:08] <dr_willis> !bot | almoxarife  :)
[07:08] <puff_> because I am also installing apache2
[07:08] <Chipzzz> puff_: lol
[07:08] <almoxarife> dr_willis: thnks
[07:09] <puff_> pythonirc101: there is a nice graphical interface for that in software
[07:09] <puff_> X.org tweaker
[07:09] <ausernamegoesher> trying to resize my partitions to make room for an install of Windows alongside Ubuntu (already installed) on a 2TB HDD with about 400GB used. GParted says it will be 7 hours. Does that sound normal?
[07:10] <pythonirc101> puff_: I thought "displays" was it (in unity)
[07:10] <puff_> lemme look
[07:10] <Bunie> ausernamegoesher: if it has to move stuff out of the way, maybe.
[07:10] <pythonirc101> thanks
[07:10] <Bunie> ausernamegoesher: i encrypted my 2TB hard drive, took like 5 days lol
[07:11] <puff_> this is gonna be slow since I have an upgrade and 4 installs going
[07:12] <puff_> all hail AMD
[07:12] <robbbie> puff_: werd, i just built a new pc, amd fx4100
[07:12] <robbbie> stoked so far
[07:12] <Bunie> ubuntu didnt ask me how i wanted to run it  =/
[07:12] <puff_> doesn't need to
[07:13] <Bunie> what if i wanna run it with persistant cache? D;
[07:13] <ausernamegoesher> Bunie: wow. Fair enough. At least I know that it isn't abnormal per se. My Windows-using brother is suprised by the amount of time it'll take. He says it took him only 15-30min to do the same thing using Windows.
[07:13] <puff_> you configure it
[07:13] <robbbie> ausernamegoesher: using ntfsresize ?
[07:14] <ausernamegoesher> robbbie: He's not sure but he thinks it was "Acronis"
[07:14] <Bunie> ausernamegoesher: you may have to move more data, and yours may be formating it or something. i couldnt tell ya, im the noobie in the room
[07:14] <ausernamegoesher> Bunie: no worries, cheers
[07:14] <robbbie> ausernamegoesher: hm not sure. it is usually easier to install windows first, then ubuntu though from my experience. used a cli utility called 'ntfsresize' to resize the windows partitions, took minutes
[07:15] <Chipzzz> if you install windows after ubuntu, windows will trash grub
[07:15] <Bunie> yeh theres that too lol
[07:16] <aBound> Never like dual-booting.
[07:16] <dr_willis> windows has some tricks i guess to resize its own ntfs. even while in use.
[07:16] <aBound> liked**
[07:16] <ausernamegoesher> robbbie: yeah. So I've read. The worst part of this is not knowing if it's gonna come out 100% safe. Fingers crossed.
[07:16] <robbbie> ausernamegoesher: i'm sure its possible, might be more of a pain though
[07:17] <ausernamegoesher> Chipzzz: yeah so I have read. I followed Ubuntu's instructions to backup the MBR and restore it after my Windows install
[07:17] <ausernamegoesher> robbbie:  I guess we'll find out. Thanks.
[07:17] <puff_> robbbie: displays just crashed lol
[07:17] <robbbie> puff_: hm?
[07:18] <puff_> was looking at displays to see if it was the tweaker
[07:18] <robbbie> hm
[07:18] <puff_> it exited abnormally
[07:18] <robbbie> puff_: amd chipset?
[07:18] <puff_> yuh huh
[07:19] <robbbie> 9 series?
[07:20] <puff_> robbbie:dunno how do I check?
[07:21] <robbbie> well, depends on the mobo you are using. i suppose bios would tell you. not sure how to check from in linux. cat /proc/cpuinfo will tell you processor but not chipset
[07:22] <puff_> better wait it's doing odd things (the upgrade)
[07:23] <puff_> finishing up now
[07:23] <Chipzzz> puff_: sudo lshw may tell you the chipset
[07:24] <Rallias> Erm... I'm having connection reliability issues with forked-daapd. Is there a common fix/ an alternative that is also gui-less?
[07:24] <robbbie> Chipzzz: lshw.. good to know
[07:25] <puff_> vendor: ASUSTek Computer INC.
[07:26] <puff_> Nvidia chipset
[07:28] <Bunie> okay so im on ubuntu now, with the driver installed
[07:29] <puff_> can't figure from this I see K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
[07:29] <freenodiz> how do i add a new user to the sudoers list,without prompt for a pass?
[07:29] <Bunie> K8 = Athlon64 family.
[07:29] <Bunie> i has a K8 myself
[07:29] <Bunie> anyways, can someone help me over like, Team Viewer?
[07:30] <Bunie> what the F why isnt my firefox working D;
[07:32] <puff_> Bunie: network tools
[07:32] <Bunie> i can ping <IP_ADDRESS> just fine
[07:32] <puff_> should list all active devices
[07:32] <Bunie> firefox just isnt working
[07:33] <Bunie> puff_: loopback interface and ethernet interface
[07:33] <fragged> Hey guys, is there a GUI package management utility that comes with Ubuntu?
[07:33] <puff_> Bunir: wireless?
[07:34] <freenodiz> if i add myuser    ALL=(ALL) ALL ,into my sudoers list,will that work without inputing password all the time?or is that somenthing automatic?
[07:34] <DrPenguin> freenodiz: that just means you can use sudo
[07:34] <freenodiz> yes,but if i want to use sudo ,without inserting the pass all the time,is that possible?
[07:34] <puff_> Bunie: click configure then wireless add
[07:35] <DrPenguin> freenodiz: thats done on an app by app basis.. you add it to sudoers and give it an attribute that I forget
[07:35] <freenodiz> app by app?ughh
[07:35] <Bunie> puff_: im trying to get my wireless to show me whats broadcasting
[07:35] <fragged> You can configure sudo to not require a password
[07:35] <fragged> /etc/sudoers or something..
[07:35] <mkanyicy> Bunie, if you are not running a web server like apache then firefox might not work
[07:36] <puff_> it has to be added first
[07:36] <freenodiz>  configure sudo to notrequire a password,that;s what i need
[07:36] <Bunie> this is making me rage =/
[07:36] <Bunie> i hate ubuntu right now, srsly. this should work
[07:36] <mkanyicy> Bunie, if you are not running a web server like apache  on <IP_ADDRESS> then firefox might not work
[07:36] <mkanyicy> fragged, sudo visudo
[07:37] <sirushti> Ok,so i need to know the difference between ubuntu server 11.10 and ubuntu cloud live..someone help? :)
[07:37] <puff_> Bunie: select eth0 then configure then you will see wireless at the top select it and add
[07:37] <freenodiz>  how can i configure sudo to not require a password ?
[07:37] <mkanyicy> fragged, mine I kept everything the same and made changes for the specific user (me) like "mkanyicy ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL"
[07:37] <pythonirc101> how can I get workspaces in gnome?
[07:37] <Bunie> puff_: What will that do? i dont want to manually configure every wireless network..
[07:37] <pythonirc101> My gnome classic doesn't show any workspaces
[07:38] <puff_> it will add the adapter
[07:38] <pythonirc101> I also don't see any settings that let me enable it
[07:38] <mkanyicy> fragged, placed at the bottom of the page/file
[07:38] <freenodiz> this is to work without pass i guess? "mkanyicy ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL"
[07:38] <mkanyicy> freenodiz, yes
[07:38] <freenodiz> nice :)
[07:39] <pythonirc101> In my gnome I don't see "system" menu at all --http://www.techotopia.com/images/a/a0/Ubuntu_desktop2.jpg -- what's wrong?
[07:39] <mkanyicy> fragged, sorry I directed the messages to you
[07:40] <ssbr> What'd be the reasonable way to install older versions of Python? in particular I'd like to try running e.g. 2.3 or 2.4
[07:40] <Bunie> Theres no hope.. =/
[07:40] <pythonirc101> I guess I'll have to choose ubuntu at login, but when I do I get "Failed login session"
[07:41] <mkanyicy> ssbr, I would say use a very old ubuntu distro
[07:42] <ssbr> mkanyicy: I'd rather just build from source or something
[07:43] <mkanyicy> ssbr, or try downloading source or .deb and install it, i have not tried this but make sure it does not become the default python (as in /usr/bin/python) otherwise things will break all over the show
[07:43] <Chipzzz> pythonirc101: aren't those your desktops in the bottom right?
[07:43] <mkanyicy> ssbr, many ubuntu apps rely on python
[07:44] <ssbr> sure, sure
[07:44] <ssbr> could just change the --prefix
[07:44] <pythonirc101> Chipzzz: nope they are not
[07:44] <Bunie> omg my head hurts so bad =/ this does not work on my pc
[07:44] <pythonirc101> is sudo add-apt-repository ppa:geod/ppa-geod a safe repository to add?
[07:45] <mkanyicy> ssbr, sounds like you know what you are doing, good luck
[07:45] <puff_> Bunie: it would if you would add the interface
[07:46] <ssbr> mkanyicy: danke je
[07:46] <Bunie> the internet stopped working all together on it after i installed the wireless driver and rebooted
[07:46] <pythonirc101> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/indicator-workspaces-simple-switching-between-workspaces.html -- doesn't work -- any ideas what's wrong?
[07:46] <puff_> ugh nasty
[07:46] <mkanyicy> ssbr, u welkom
[07:47] <pythonirc101> Got : E: Unable to locate package indicator-workspaces
[07:47] <Chipzzz> Bunie: what does your iwconfig say?
[07:47] <Bunie> Chipzzz: Still booting up, but i doubt it mentions it =/
[07:48] <Chipzzz> lol
[07:48] <Chipzzz> ...you have to ask it
[07:49] <puff_> lo        no wireless extensions.
[07:49] <puff_> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[07:49] <puff_> eth1      no wireless extensions.
[07:49] <Bunie> lo and eth0
[07:49] <JusticeZero> Does anyone know why my Software Center has become useless of late? It can't download packages and tells me to 'check my connection'. If I push the issue it whines about untrusted packages.
[07:49] <Bunie> both say "no wireless extentions"
[07:49] <puff_> thus the need to confiure and add
[07:49] <Chipzzz> Bunie: how about ifconfig
[07:50] <Bunie> just the same two, with more information
[07:50] <Bunie> eth0 says interupt:17
[07:50] <Chipzzz> JusticeZero: sounds like a problem with your repos (software sources)
[07:50] <JusticeZero> How do I fix it?
[07:51] <puff_> woohoo looks like reboot time
[07:52] <Chipzzz> JusticeZero: sudo synaptic is the easiest way to get to them
[07:52] <Bunie> Chipzzz: Please save me Q~Q
[07:52] <JusticeZero> I haven't done anything wacky with my repos that i'm aware of.
[07:52] <Chipzzz> Bunie: it's still showing up in lspci, isn't it?
[07:53] <Bunie> yeh
[07:53] <Bunie> says capabilities: acciess denied
[07:53] <Bunie> whatever that means
[07:53] <puff_> thats normal
[07:53] <Chipzzz> Bunie: root owns it
[07:53] <Bunie> to hunt for a driver for it, would i hunt for its controller or its subsystem
[07:54] <freenodiz> i'm getting this error :          E: Couldn't find package libreadlin
[07:54] <dr_willis> !find libreadl
[07:54] <Chipzzz> Bunie: look for broadcom
[07:55] <Chipzzz> JusticeZero: you're sure you have network access on that machine
[07:55] <Chipzzz> ?
[07:55] <se7en> where are you from?
[07:56] <JusticeZero> It's the machine i'm on right now
[07:56] <freenodiz> ty dr_willis
[07:56] <puff_> brb
[07:57] <Chipzzz> JusticeZero: open up synaptic, look in settings -> software sources
[07:57] <sirnameless> o nice
[07:57] <Chipzzz> (or repositories)
[07:58] <Bunie> Chipzzz: I found this http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 my device is listed as supported. D; i cant make since of any of this tho
[07:58] <se7en> hello
[07:58] <Chipzzz> Bunie: why not?
[07:59] <se7en> i want a friend ..
[07:59] <Bunie> Chipzzz: Cuz im a windows noob ._.
[07:59] <se7en> noob?
[07:59] <JusticeZero> Got an error, might have fixed it, grmbl..
[07:59] <Chipzzz> Bunie: oh... better to use native linux drivers if you can
[08:00] <Chipzzz> Bunie: what model was it again?
[08:02] <html> Chipzzz,  just talking about it for to long ,,,sigh.. giving me a headach ,,,  (windows on linux drivers is a pain sometimes)
[08:02] <puff_> woohoo this rawks
[08:02] <Bunie> Chipzzz: D520.. i found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[08:02] <vitamin{> is there a way to see what the configure script was on a existing binary
[08:02] <Bunie> oh u mean my wireless model. but anyways that document refers to my driver
[08:03] <pythonirc101> what's the keyboard shortcut to change workspaces in 11.10 -- right now I use super+s + click
[08:03] <puff_> ooo I like the new term better too
[08:03] <JusticeZero> I tried sudo apt-get update - synaptic worked fine but the software center wouldn't? and apt-get gave an error, said to update again to fix it. I did. it ...seems fixed? For now? Blah, why it didn't give me that error LAST time i'll never know,
[08:06] <Chipzzz> Bunie: Ah... that page explains the problem... if you read it over & follow the instructions for "Installing b43 drivers", you should be ok
[08:06] <Chipzzz> JusticeZero: glad it worked out for you :)
[08:08] <puff_> Bunie:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m03RcFkSIA8
[08:08] <eigoom> I'm on xubuntu, can we still be friends?
[08:08] <puff_> wait ya have to be on 11.10 for that to work
[08:08] <dbazuin_> eigoom: Whats the difference
[08:09]  * dbazuin_ is new to this stuff
[08:10] <Bunie> puff_: i am NOT typing in the Mac and SSID to every network i join, i'll stick to windows 100 times over before i do that.
[08:10] <eigoom> well, Ubuntu has the GNOME environment while Xubuntu has the XFCE environment
[08:10] <eigoom> and they come with different software
[08:10] <Bunie> puff_: Ubuntu used to work PERFECT on this laptop >>
[08:10] <dbazuin_> Ow ok
[08:10] <JusticeZero> Xubuntu has some different packages too..
[08:10] <puff_> mm I just linked ya a video howto
[08:10] <dbazuin_> And why domyou prefer xubuntu?
[08:11] <dbazuin_> M = space
[08:11] <eigoom> its lightweight, fast and I like the look
[08:11] <dbazuin_> Ow ok
[08:12] <multipass> can anyone help me with the 1 line command that chmods all files to 644 and all folders to 775 of a directory recursivly?? thanks
[08:12] <dbazuin_> I use macos and xp now
[08:12] <dbazuin_> Want to try ubuntu asap
[08:12] <eigoom> also love the Clearlooks theme, but I believe you can get that on any ubuntu spin
[08:12] <Chipzzz> Bunie: according to the page you showed me, the problem is that you need to extract the firmware from the card with a utility provided in the repos. After that, you should be ok
[08:12] <dbazuin_> Can you show some screendumps
[08:13] <Bunie> Chipzzz: This page is reading like it wants me to write new firmware to my card... i dont wanna ruin my card for ubuntu >>
[08:13] <Chipzzz> multipass: I think you want the "-R" parameter
[08:14] <Bunie> I swear wtf happened! Ubuntu 10 or somethin, WORKED, i just clicked install on the drivers and Bam
[08:14] <eigoom> google images dbazuin :_
[08:14] <eigoom> :)**
[08:14] <dbazuin_> Ok np
[08:15] <Bunie> i found this, if i can get my lan working again i will try it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al3X4jL3S2Y
[08:15] <fragged> is there any workaround to getting multiple copies of apt-get to run symaltaniously? Even if it only downloads the applications? Virtualbox is downloading at 20kb/s : /
[08:16] <puff_> ugh
[08:16] <Bunie> cancel it and install it the old fashioned way
[08:17] <fragged> I'm more looking for a way to throw things onto a cue,
[08:17] <Chipzzz> Bunie: if you start about 15% of the way down the page at the heading "b43 - Internet access" & follow the 3 steps, you should be up and running in no time.
[08:17] <puff_> software center
[08:18] <puff_> fragged orange bag in the launcher bar
[08:18] <Chipzzz> (The firmware is read from the card, not written to it so you're safe)
[08:18] <fragged> Ah, cheers
[08:19] <Bunie> This YT vid has given me hope
[08:20] <Bunie> HOPE FOR A BETTER TOMORROW
[08:20] <Chipzzz> lol
[08:20] <puff_> yw
[08:20] <Bunie> Seriously tho, why isnt this an issue? :p
[08:20] <Bunie> like, Ubuntu was made to be user friendly yes?  :P
[08:21] <puff_> some assembly required
[08:21] <Chipzzz> Bunie: i think the problem has to do with the proprietary broadcom firmware & the legalities of the situation.
[08:22] <Bunie> i know it cant be included but couldnt it be automated or something?
[08:22] <Bunie> like a script to do all this itself? :p
[08:22] <dbazuin_> I guess grandma better buy a pc with it already installed then
[08:22] <Chipzzz> it is automated... 43-cutter does it for you
[08:22] <itsnotabigtruck> yeah, the wlan chip vendors design this stuff with not one thought given to making it easy to use from open source drivers, without divulging trade secrets
[08:22] <gmachine_24> I have a home network with Windows comps (XP, Vista, 7) and Ubuntu/Debian (various versions) and my problem is I can never get the Linux laptops to "see" the other computers when they are connected wirelessly; I plug in a cable and Bob's your uncle. I usually get an error message something like 'Unable to mount location' 'Failed to retrieve share list from server'; I have used diff routers...
[08:22] <gmachine_24> ...... all with the same result. The Linux boxes all have Samba installed and configured.
[08:22] <itsnotabigtruck> e.g. runtime-loaded firmware, because eeprom chips cost too much
[08:23] <dbazuin_> Does ubuntu support wifi printing?
[08:23] <Mike1> good Morning! Is there a way to edit PCManFM’s side pane?
[08:23] <itsnotabigtruck> dbazuin_: yeah, it's no different from a regular network printer
[08:23] <puff_> well at least it is "manly" enough to attempt to mount everything it encounters
[08:24] <itsnotabigtruck> network printers have been around for eons, it's only the wireless part that's nee
[08:24] <itsnotabigtruck> that and they're marketed to consumers now
[08:24] <gmachine_24> eons.... wow
[08:24] <dbazuin_> True
[08:24] <Bunie> just one more question, Chipzzz: Im going to try whats shown in this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al3X4jL3S2Y , should i install the proprietary drivers first or should i just go with this?
[08:25] <Chipzzz> Bunie: I didn't watch the vid... I'll get back to you in a few
[08:25] <Bunie> It's kay he just installs something from the 'market" and shows it fixed
[08:28] <Chipzzz> Bunie: I'd go with the vid and if it doesn't work, try the more roundabout method
[08:31] <mazda01> morning. anyone familar with best software for a Blog type website which also is great a showing and allowing visitors to watch and play .mp4 files?
[08:31] <mazda01> i'll work about hosting
[08:32] <TomK_> Ubuntu sucks.
[08:33] <Chipzzz> Mazda01: That's pretty off-topic but Wordpress is the most common solution and my personal favorite is Drupal
[08:33] <mazda01> thank you
[08:33] <mazda01> figureed it was on topic because its being hosting within ubuntu
[08:33] <mazda01> :-)
[08:34] <Chipzzz> good luck :)
[08:34] <mazda01> so drupal and wordpress have any apps to easily install,manage and maintain them?
[08:34] <mazda01> in Ubuntu
[08:34] <Chipzzz> lol... yes
[08:34] <mazda01> I will have to do some googling I guess
[08:34] <mazda01> thank you
[08:35] <Chipzzz> glad to help
[08:36] <mazda01> dont see an auto-connect timer for xchat. anyone familar?
[08:36] <mazda01> version 2.8.6
[08:36] <Bunie> Chipzzz: new problem. i found deb at the debian repo but,  it says dependency not satisfiable?
[08:37] <mazda01> you can run an aptitude or apt-get command to show you all the dependencies
[08:37] <Chipzzz> Bunie: the driver in software center didn't work?
[08:37] <mazda01> of a package BUT it sounds like Chipzzz has you covered
[08:37] <Bunie> Chipzzz: It didnt exist, i found a deb package
[08:38] <Chipzzz> Bunie: i would be nervous about it... what's the package?
[08:39] <Bunie> dun dun dunnn
[08:40] <Bunie> i installed it, and now i see networks! However i cant connect
[08:40] <puff_> improvement
[08:41] <Bunie> Wait! wrong pass xD
[08:41] <Chipzzz> :)
[08:41] <puff_> if at first you don succeed (offtopic)
[08:41] <Bunie> ITS
[08:41] <Bunie> ALIIIIIVEEEE
[08:41] <Bunie> ive only been here for 5 hours
[08:42] <Chipzzz> YYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:42] <Bunie> BUT ITS ALIIIIVEEEE
[08:42] <puff_> no comment
[08:42] <Mike1> :D
[08:42] <Bunie> finally connected to the internet! now i can experience all kinds of problems :3
[08:42] <Chipzzz> Big HAPPY NEW YEAR to Bunie!
[08:43] <Bunie> lols
[08:43] <Bunie> now to stop using the live distro ;D
[08:43] <Bunie> xD
[08:43] <Chipzzz> rofl
[08:44] <Bunie> weird.. i clicked install and Disconnected
[08:44] <Bunie> is that normal?
[08:44] <Bunie> or is my connection gonna drop every 5 minutes
[08:45] <Chipzzz> dunno, i worry about adding packages that aren't from a ubuntu repo
[08:46] <Bunie> i have no freakin clue what iuts doin now, i think its froze, im gonna install and then re-do wireless
[08:47] <Bunie> man, ubuntu needs to stop adding new features, and fix the old ones :p
[08:47] <Chipzzz> i would try to get the package from ubuntu's repo next time around if you can
[08:47] <Bunie> Chipzzz: Help me find it? "firmware-b43-installer"?
[08:48] <Bunie> lol my ubuntu usb is saying authentication failure now
[08:48] <Chipzzz> k
[08:48] <Bunie> D;
[08:49] <Bunie> my laptop needs a new battery
[08:49] <aBound> New years sucked. lol
[08:49] <Martell> Ok guys heres my problem, i deleted Ubuntu partition from my Windows XP, and when i restart my lappy back, it gave me "no such partition.. grub rescue>" .. i have centos usb , and tried to resuce my lappy, but failed. how may i solve this?
[08:49] <Bunie> it like, overheats at 80% so i take it out and when i come back an hour later its stil hot, and at 40%
[08:50] <Chipzzz> Bunie: apt-get has it, assuming you're installing 11.10
[08:50] <freenodiz>  when installing rvm onubuntu lucid,what's the difference between:if [[ -s"$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" ]] ; then source"$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" ; fi   AND   user$echo '[[ -s "$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" ]] && ."$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" # Load RVM function'  >> ~/.bash_profile  ?
[08:50] <Bunie> Martell: best way to rescue windows is using Hirens Boot Disk, i believe it has a tool to repair windows boot thingy
[08:50] <Bunie> Chipzzz: So what do i type? "Sudo apt-get firmware-b43-installer"?
[08:51] <Chipzzz> Sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer