[12:00] <gnomefreak> sidd, sudo apt-get update
[12:00] <bimberi> !ff1.5
[12:00] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:00] <StokesTheorem> Okay, now Ubuntu is copyrighted under GPL, correct?
[12:00] <dooglus> sidd: you need to use "sudo apt-get update"
[12:00] <Klementas> sethk: umount: /mnt: not mounted
[12:00] <Moratorium> mwe, it already has :Section "InputDevice"
[12:00] <Moratorium>     Identifier  "Synaptics Touchpad"
[12:00] <Moratorium>     Driver      "synaptics"
[12:00] <Moratorium>     Option      "SendCoreEvents"        "true"
[12:00] <Moratorium>     Option      "Device"                "/dev/psaux"
[12:00] <Moratorium>     Option      "Protocol"              "auto-dev"
[12:00] <Moratorium>     Option      "HorizScrollDelta"  "0"
[12:00] <gnomefreak> than type user password when it asks
[12:00] <mwe> Moratorium: don't paste here
[12:00] <Moratorium> sorry
[12:00] <mwe> Moratorium: thats great
[12:00] <pmontemayor> Saw  img file for a Debian install that work in conjunciton with a Mac floppy, is there one for Ubuntu?
[12:00] <mwe> Moratorium: maybe apt put it in
[12:00] <Moratorium> do I need the other stuff?
[12:01] <sidd> GREAT
[12:01] <sidd> works now
[12:01] <sidd> thanks guys
[12:01] <Klementas> sethk: I get this no matter where in my filesystem I try to mount the drive
[12:01] <sethk> Klementas, yes, and as I said, that shows that /mnt is not a mount point, but it does _not_ show that /mnt/somethingelse is not a mount point
[12:01] <soundray> StokesTheorem, some of it. Parts are also covered by other licenses: LGPL, Artistic, BSD, ...
[12:01] <gnomefreak> sidd, wait
[12:01] <cello_rasp> how do i mount disk images?
[12:01] <sidd> yes?
[12:01] <mwe> Moratorium: what under Section "ServerLayout" ?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> sidd, when that is done type sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:01] <sidd> did that
[12:01] <sidd> it worked
[12:01] <dooglus> sidd: whenever you're doing any "admin" kind of stuff you generally have to put "sudo" in front of the command, so it runs as root.
[12:01] <gnomefreak> oh you did upgrade?
[12:01] <Klementas> sethk: there is nothing under /mnt
[12:01] <StokesTheorem> soundray:  But anybody modifying and selling Ubuntu must release their derivitive under GPL, right?
[12:01] <sidd> turns out terminal was in the middle of a real player install I had done a week ago
[12:01] <sidd> sudo--good to know
[12:01] <sidd> thanks
[12:02] <dooglus> StokesTheorem: that's not how the GPL works.  you're allowed to make changes and keep them secret.
[12:02] <Moratorium> it has 3 inputdevice lines
[12:02] <sethk> Klementas, do mount (with no arguments), and past the results to a pastebot, then give us the URL of the pastebot
[12:02] <dooglus> StokesTheorem: oh, sorry.  if they're selling it, then yes, they have to release it under the GPL.
[12:02] <gnomefreak> pastebin*
[12:02] <soundray> StokesTheorem, it's "modifying and redistributing". Whether you take money or not is not the issue.
[12:02] <Moratorium> "generic Keyboard" "Configured Mouse" and "Synaptics Touchpad"
[12:02] <dooglus> StokesTheorem: if I want to make my own version of ubuntu and keep it to myself, I'm allowed to do that.
[12:02] <Malachi> Is their any way I can substitute the system bell with another sound?
[12:02] <mwe> Moratorium: InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad" is that in the ServeLayout part?
[12:03] <hawking> how can i reinstall X?
[12:03] <Moratorium> yes mwe
[12:03] <mwe> Moratorium: you should be good then. I guess apt put it in
[12:03] <StokesTheorem> Okay, I wrote to one of the companies selling the Ubuntu H2 - a portable Ubuntu thing - and heard back the following:
[12:03] <dooglus> hawking: sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg
[12:03] <brrrt> anyone using nvidia 8178 drivers on breezy ?
[12:03] <Moratorium> ok, I'll try a restart
[12:03] <soundray> hawking, what are you trying to fix?
[12:03] <mwe> Moratorium: play with different settings for the driver though
[12:03] <hawking> soundray : I can't set my keyboard layout
[12:03] <hawking> soundray : and could find no solution
[12:04] <StokesTheorem> [sorry Zinside can not release the source code of the Ubuntu H2 installation
[12:04] <StokesTheorem> since we don't have it.  Pertec does have it but I don't think they want to release it under GPL.]
[12:04] <Moratorium> should I use the extra lines that you posted
[12:04] <StokesTheorem> Is it just me or is that a clear violation of them using Ubuntu?
[12:04] <soundray> hawking, have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'? (Backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you try)
[12:04] <gnomefreak> StokesTheorem, read the GPL
[12:04] <dooglus> StokesTheorem: I don't know enough about the GPL to say.
[12:04] <hawking> soundray : for thousand times
[12:04] <bimberi> StokesTheorem: are you sure this is a derivative of ubuntu linux?
[12:05] <bimberi> StokesTheorem: not just a name coincidence?
[12:05] <hawking> soundray : something I don't understand when I do setxkbmap tr it says Error loading new keyboard description
[12:05] <gnomefreak> you can change modify edit as you wish you cant sell it unless its only for supplies and if you give it out it has to have source code with it or availble
[12:05] <mwe> Moratorium: you can I guess it will work without it. I put in some tweaking
[12:05] <Klementas> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7038
[12:05] <sethk> StokesTheorem, what does that version have that regular old ubuntu doesn't have?
[12:05] <StokesTheorem> Absolutely 100% sure.  http://www.zinside.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=46
[12:06] <Moratorium> tweaking for what?
[12:06] <tim__> I bound a key (0xa2) through the configuration editor to a command (ooffice2), but when i press it, nothing happens. What's the problem?
[12:06] <sethk> Klementas, ok, and the mount statement you are trying?
[12:06] <StokesTheorem> It is installed to a portable USB device and modified so that it is particularly adept at being mobile.
[12:06] <soundray> hawking, so you have a running X installation with a wrong keyboard layout?
[12:06] <mwe> Moratorium: like the speed and sensitivity
[12:06] <Klementas> sethk: mount -t vfat /dev/hdd /mnt
[12:06] <paulproteus|lapt> How do I report a bug against a Dapper package in main?
[12:06] <Ribs> StokesTheorem: That just looks like a HD with Ubuntu installed.
[12:06] <Steve^> I downloaded a .deb file for a program, how do I install it?
[12:06] <StokesTheorem> A lot of people playing with the portable-ubuntu idea often say things like "well, it can be done since the H2 does it" and "I wonder what they modified to get it to work so well..."
[12:06] <Moratorium> I see, so they're not strictly needed
[12:07] <paulproteus|lapt> Steve^: sudo dpkg -i filename
[12:07] <sethk> Klementas, oh, I doubt you want to mount /dev/hdd.  Ordinarily you would mount something like /dev/hdd1
[12:07] <unl3ss> Hey, I can't burn CDs because k3b keeps telling that I don't have the permissions... how can I either a) run k3b as root or b) enable myself to allow burning?
[12:07] <mwe> Moratorium: no
[12:07] <gnomefreak> paulproteusi want to say use the bug report tool in system tools but i think it moved to launchpad :(
[12:07] <dooglus> StokesTheorem: sounds like it might be a vanilla ubuntu install, with some extra properietary software included.
[12:07] <Moratorium> ok, the touch pad still isnt working
[12:07] <sethk> Klementas, it would be very unusual to format an entire IDE device as a single partition.
[12:07] <mitrovarr> StokesTheorem:  It's possible that they have parts of the code that are under other licenses, so they can't release the entire thing
[12:07] <paulproteus|lapt> gnomefreak: Also, it's a command-line only system I'm on. (-:
[12:07] <hawking> soundray : yes
[12:07] <dvm1981> unl3ss: you have not the rigts to do it ...
[12:07] <Klementas> seife: it is though
[12:07] <gnomefreak> paulproteususe lynx or links2
[12:07] <soundray> hawking, GNOME? KDE?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> or w3m
[12:07] <hawking> soundray : KDE
[12:07] <StokesTheorem> Hmmm, [But we will soon release an universal CD that will install Ubuntu to any USB
[12:07] <StokesTheorem> hard drive (also produced by Pertec). It will be available for download on www.zinside.com with a small fee.]
[12:08] <unl3ss> dvm1981: Right. The permissions are set to root.
[12:08] <mwe> Moratorium: I don't know. could you paste the entire xorg.conf. or maybe try with my settings
[12:08] <Klementas> sethk: it is though;  I'll try hdd1 too
[12:08] <StokesTheorem> Sorry about the multi-lines.  I forgot pasting from gmail includes line breaks.
[12:08] <soundray> hawking, have you tried setting the keyboard via the KDE control center instead of the command line?
[12:08] <mitrovarr> I don't know why you'd need a special ubuntu for a microdrive, though.
[12:08] <sethk> Klementas, try this:   fdisk -l /dev/hdd    see if partitions show up
[12:08] <hawking> soundray : yes
[12:08] <dvm1981> unl3ss: and member on the good group ?
[12:08] <mitrovarr> It's not like a flash drive where you have to minimize writes
[12:08] <soundray> hawking, result?
[12:08] <hawking> soundray : that one also uses setxkbmap command
[12:08] <hawking> soundray : nothing
[12:08] <r00723r0> hi
[12:08] <phiber_optic> can someone help me installig a splash ??
[12:09] <r00723r0> im getting issues
[12:09] <Tortel> can someone aste their sources.list?
[12:09] <hawking> soundray : and normally that worked ok ...
[12:09] <tim__> how do i mount an ntfs volume so that users other than root can access it?
[12:09] <hawking> soundray : so I think that's a bug
[12:09] <cello_rasp> is it possible to tell gnome to open a folder, from the command line?
[12:09] <Klementas> sethk: I've done that too
[12:09] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, what version are you using of ubuntu?
[12:09] <Tortel> *Paste
[12:09] <r00723r0> it says dmrc needs 644 permissions and needs to be owned by 'user'
[12:09] <Steve^> is there not a program that can install a self-downloaded .deb, and solve dependency issues?
[12:09] <r00723r0> i tried chmod 644 -R .dmrc
[12:09] <Klementas> sethk: there is one partition
[12:09] <phiber_optic> 5.10
[12:09] <StokesTheorem> The last thing seems more to the letter of the GPL, but if they are selling a "special install" then clearly they have (a) modified it or (b) have proprietary software to tweak the install/  Either way, saying they don't want to release the code strikes me as illegal from my own readings of the GPL and from what I've heard here.
[12:09] <mwe> Tortel: If you promise to back it up before messing with it again
[12:09] <Moratorium> ok, forget the dumbass touch pad
[12:09] <sethk> Klementas, ok, then it would be hdd1
[12:09] <r00723r0> but i still get the error
[12:09] <Klementas> ok
[12:09] <phiber_optic> gnomefreak 5.10
[12:09] <hawking> soundray : as it's the same for all other layouts...
[12:10] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install gnome-art  phiber_optic
[12:10] <Tortel> I have it backed uP
[12:10] <r00723r0> im getting issues
[12:10] <platos> Steve^: normally they use apt-get install <package name> to install packages from the repos
[12:10] <r00723r0> it says dmrc needs 644 permissions and needs to be owned by 'user'
[12:10] <r00723r0> i tried chmod 644 -R .dmrc
[12:10] <r00723r0> but i still get the error
[12:10] <soundray> hawking, I think you're missing a package. Give me two minutes...
[12:10] <Moratorium> I want to know why the mouse keeps on freezing the whole system when I plug it in
[12:10] <gnomefreak> once gnome art is installed it makes it 300 times easier to install spalsh
[12:10] <platos> Steve^: you could do that with every dependency you have
[12:10] <phiber_optic> gnomefreak one other question, what is gdm?
[12:10] <hawking> soundray : ok...I appreciate your help
[12:10] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  Did you try a different USB device?
[12:10] <trappist> r00723r0: sudo chown username .dmrc
[12:10] <mwe> Moratorium: check the log files
[12:10] <gnomefreak> gdm=gnome display manager
[12:10] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  I have a couple of ideas why
[12:10] <Moratorium> not yet
[12:11] <mwe> Moratorium: that's what you wanna do
[12:11] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, if your looking on gnome-look?
[12:11] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  It might be deactivating the built in control devices, and that might be crashing it
[12:11] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  Or maybe USB just isn't working period
[12:11] <phiber_optic> yeah
[12:11] <bimberi> StokesTheorem: as i understand it it depends on how the software was developed.  if it's a stand-alone package written by them then they don't have to use the GPL.  If it's a derivative of a GPL package - they must comply with the GPL (and release the source code)
[12:11] <unl3ss> dvm1981: the permissions are set to 666.root.cdrom
[12:11] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, gdm on gnome-look.org for some reasons are log-in screens
[12:11] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, since your there
[12:12] <phiber_optic> yeah?
[12:12] <dvm1981> unl3ss: Other than rights problems. I hope that someone here can help you
[12:12] <gnomefreak> download the splash that you want
[12:12] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  So it would help to know if other USB devices crash it (indicating USB is the problem), don't work (indicating USB is broken), or work fine (indicating USB is *not* the problem.)
[12:12] <phiber_optic> and then how do I install it?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> under system>prefferences>splash screen if that is not there install gnome-art
[12:12] <xiaogil> is there something more precise to observe the earth than WW2D ?
[12:12] <fanopnaic> Is there a graphical archive manager without a zillion deps on useless libs and as good as WinRAR?
[12:12] <phiber_optic> i already installe dgnome art gnomefreak
[12:12] <gnomefreak> xiaogil,  lol
[12:13] <xiaogil> gnomefreak: ;)
[12:13] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, than splash screen should be there
[12:13] <gnomefreak> xiaogil, are you trying to install it?
[12:13] <xiaogil> gnomefreak: it's installed already
[12:13] <Moratorium> btw, gnomefreak, it took 1 and a half hours to install
[12:13] <dvm1981> unl3ss: Re ask the question to atire a litte bit more attention
[12:13] <gnomefreak> Moratorium, what did?
[12:13] <phiber_optic> yeah I see, but how do I put the splash screen that i want
[12:13] <phiber_optic> or gdm?
[12:14] <Steve^> I'm trying to install opera and it depends on xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) | xlibs;   But that isn't in my package manager...
[12:14] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, did you download it yet?
[12:14] <LordMelkor> When i install cedega and it runs tests on my grafx card the 3d acceleration test fails and it says i need to configure my graphics drivers properly.. how do i do this?
[12:14] <platos> phiber_optic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto?highlight=%28usplash%29
[12:14] <Moratorium> gnomefreak:ubuntu
[12:14] <gnomefreak> how long?
[12:14] <Moratorium> 90 minutes or so
[12:14] <phiber_optic> yeahh gnome freak
[12:14] <atbt> Can anyone help me dual boot Windows + Ubuntu (5.10)?
[12:14] <unl3ss> Hey guys, I can't burn an image in k3b because "I don't have the permission to," what do I do?
[12:15] <Moratorium> cant remember exactly
[12:15] <paulproteus|lapt> atbt: Yeah, the Ubuntu installer should help you. (-:
[12:15] <gnomefreak> eh i dont remember it ever taking that long (breezy)
[12:15] <XsPiDeR> somebody can tell me how i can run StarCraft Under Ubuntu i try with wine but i get a lots of errors i try with Winex3 (in debian sarge worx) but i get errors ?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> ok phiber_optic when you open up the splash screen manager let me know
[12:16] <mwe> XsPiDeR: check frankcorner.org IIRC there's a howto. might be wrong though
[12:16] <mitrovarr> unl3ss:  Do you have permissions to write to where you are trying to save the image?
[12:16] <fanopnaic> Steve^: try apt-get -f install
[12:16] <unl3ss> mitrovarr: On the disc? Apparently not
[12:16] <mitrovarr> unl3ss:  like are you trying to save it to a mounted volume (to which users will not have write permissions by default.)
[12:16] <Moratorium> ok, Mitrovarr, I started up with my mp3 player plugged in and it froze at the line "starting hotplug subsystem..."
[12:16] <platos> XsPiDeR: on ubuntu the newest version from wine is prepackaged
[12:16] <unl3ss> mitrovarr: Nope, just trying to burn an image in k3b
[12:16] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  sounds like USB and hotplug might be brokwn
[12:17] <hawking> soundray : found anything?
[12:17] <Steve^> fanopnaic, did nothing
[12:17] <Moratorium> physically broken?
[12:17] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  You might want to google around and see if linux drivers exist for your specific laptop
[12:17] <phiber_optic> ok gnomefreak, the splash image is the one in the grup gnomefreak?
[12:17] <fanopnaic> Steve^: err, are you trying to install the debian package? or the ubuntu package?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> grup?
[12:17] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  no, but now we know what is freezing the laptop; it's a problem with USB
[12:17] <fanopnaic> Steve^: the ubuntu thingie works. at least over here.
[12:17] <Steve^> just a sec
[12:17] <pinkisntwell> oo.o won't print, what am I doing wrong? should i login with the printer turned on>
[12:17] <pinkisntwell> ?
[12:17] <Moratorium> this sucks animal rectum
[12:17] <Steve^> I had opera removed, re-added it now and did that command
[12:18] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, when you open the splash screen manager it will say install on bottoms right click that find the splash that you downloaded and double click it than click on it in the spalsh manager and click activate
[12:18] <mitrovarr> unl3ss:  could you create a regular file where you're trying to save the image?
[12:18] <soundray> hawking, what is the setxbmap command that you have tried?
[12:18] <phiber_optic> okk
[12:18] <atbt> Can I just install Windows XP, followed by default Ubuntu 5.10 (simply choosing different partitions on the same harddrive during Ubuntu installation)?
[12:18] <fanopnaic> Steve^: works now?
[12:18] <phiber_optic> im going to do that...
[12:18] <mitrovarr> unl3ss:  Like if I tried to make an image file on /media/hdb1 I couldn't because users don't have write permissions there
[12:18] <hawking> soundray : well I do "setxkbmap tr"
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ok ill brb
[12:19] <phiber_optic> but is the splash secreen the one for the grub screen??
[12:19] <Steve^> fanopnaic, got an error about plugins when I run opera, but it does seem to run
[12:19] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, no
[12:19] <fanopnaic> Steve^: that's ok.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> splash screen the the lil ubuntu thing you see before gnome starts
[12:19] <|37th|Trigger> HEllo guys :)
[12:19] <phiber_optic> ohh ok okkk...
[12:19] <phiber_optic> ;)
[12:20] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, if you want to change grub you have your work ahead of u
[12:20] <ramblingturtle> hello, I have been trying to figure out how to mount my hp iriver t30 mp3 player and cant seem to find anything on it I do show it being detected with the Device manager but how do I mount it is my question
[12:20] <gnomefreak> your/alot
[12:20] <phiber_optic> ill
[12:20] <unl3ss> mitrovarr: It's my own system. The problem is that k3b tells me I don't have permissions to burn this disc. Be right back
[12:20] <phiber_optic> research it
[12:20] <phiber_optic> gnome
[12:20] <phiber_optic> thanx by the way
[12:20] <soundray> hawking, is xkeyboard-config installed on your system?
[12:20] <hawking> soundray : yes it is
[12:20] <mwe> ramblingturtle: it should automount if it works I believe
[12:21] <fanopnaic> Steve^: install lesstif2 to make the error go away, and plugins work.
[12:21] <soundray> hawking, does the file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/tr exist?
[12:21] <fanopnaic> mozilla flash plugin works out-of-the-box in opera methinks
[12:21] <hawking> soundray : yes
[12:21] <ramblingturtle> mwe: thats what I thought but it didn
[12:22] <ramblingturtle> mwe: i tried twice but it is detected under the device manager
[12:22] <atbt> Can I just install Windows XP, followed by default Ubuntu 5.10 (simply choosing different partitions on the same harddrive during Ubuntu installation)?\
[12:22] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  What kind of laptop is it exactly?
[12:22] <Ubuntuser_Ba> Seveas, are u there^?
[12:22] <Steve^> fanopnaic, tried but I can't seem to connect to a bunch of servers
[12:22] <soundray> hawking, can you repeat what error you get? It scrolled off the top here.
[12:22] <fanopnaic> elaborate
[12:23] <vbgunz> does anyone have the bug where if you unmount a usb hard drive, it unmounts *but* an error comes up "something about invalid argument"?
[12:23] <hawking> soundray : Error loading new keyboard description
[12:23] <LordMelkor> well if i see the gears why does the test fail
[12:23] <ashyg> !twinview
[12:23] <ubotu> ashyg: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:23] <hawking> soundray : for every layout I tried
[12:23] <hawking> soundray : not only tr
[12:23] <Moratorium> I just got a kernel panic
[12:23] <ashyg> does anyone know how to install twinview?
[12:23] <Steve^> ran apt-get update, probably 50% can't be connected
[12:23] <Seveas> Ubuntuser_Ba, yes
[12:23] <Moratorium> when I plugged my mouse in during boot up
[12:23] <Ubuntuser_Ba> Seveas, PVT??
[12:23] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I've done it
[12:23] <Seveas> sure
[12:23] <bimberi> atbt: yes that's right, the thing is that XP will take up the whole drive by default.  That's OK though because the ubuntu installer can resize the windows partition - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[12:23] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  the part of the nvidia readme that talks about it is pretty helpful... I'll find it for you
[12:24] <ashyg> mitrovarr: how, i have two monitors... also how do i change the resolutions available in the system->administration->screen resolution dialog?
[12:24] <atbt> bimberi: thank you very much, i'll be back on later then, thanks again.
[12:24] <ashyg> mitrovarr: thanks
[12:24] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8178/README/appendix-g.html
[12:24] <soundray> hawking, have you tried 'strace setxkbmap tr'? It produces a lot of output, but you may be able to see the name of the file it cannot find.
[12:24] <bimberi> atbt: np :)
[12:24] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  You'll have to set up metamodes
[12:24] <hawking> soundray : lemme try
[12:24] <ramblingturtle> what would be the command to list all mounted devices
[12:24] <Steve^> fanopnaic, should I be worried that lesstif2 cannot be authenticated?
[12:24] <ramblingturtle> is is ls /dev
[12:24] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Those modes will then be your new resolution choices
[12:24] <hyphenated> ramblingturtle: 'mount'
[12:25] <fanopnaic> Steve^: no.
[12:25] <ramblingturtle> hyphenated: thanks
[12:25] <dab> hi
[12:25] <Moratorium> it says "not synching:fatal exception interrupt" mitrovarr, when I plug the mouse in
[12:25] <dab> i'm trying to watch an .avi with xine (i have the w32codecs) but it doesn't seem to recognize it. i get an error and i can see image but no sound
[12:25] <dab> what else should i install?
[12:25] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  What kind of laptop is it exactly?  Maybe someone else has had this problem and fixed it.
[12:25] <hyphenated> ramblingturtle: you could do 'cat /etc/mtab' if you want, which is about the same as what running 'mount' without arguments does
[12:25] <Moratorium> LG
[12:26] <Moratorium> the exact model is an LE50 Express
[12:26] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  model#?
[12:26] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  Thanks
[12:26] <soundray> hawking, have you read http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77092.html ?
[12:26] <Moratorium> where would you check anyway Mitrovarr?
[12:26] <hawking> soundray : here is the output http://rafb.net/paste/results/hfLLqU22.html
[12:26] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  Google.
[12:27] <phiber_optic> does anyone know how to boot from command line in grub?
[12:27] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  When you configure your xorg.conf file, you'll need to put in a metamode list.
[12:27] <dabugas> btw, i have watched this file before on xine but on another kubuntu
[12:27] <Moratorium> I was afraid so
[12:27] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Like mine is     Option	   "MetaModes"  "1024x768,1024x768;1024x768,NULL;1280x1024,1024x768;1280x768,NULL;1600x1200,1028x768;1600x1200,NULL"
[12:27] <existance> I have a 2nd monitor that runs on an nvidia card, how can i configure fglrx to use it?
[12:28] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  That means my options are "1024x768 on both", 1024x768 on the first and the second is off, 1280x1024 on the first, 1024x768 on the second, 1280x1024 on the first with the second off, 1600x1200 on the first with 1024x768 on the second, 1600x1200 on the first with the second off"
[12:28] <_Drow_> ubuntu really suck
[12:29] <_Drow_> debian rlz
[12:29] <mwe> existance: um fglrx is for ati cards
[12:29] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  the change resolution dialog will list the combined resolution of the mode.
[12:29] <existance> mwe, i thought you could use both on it :/
[12:29] <gnomefreak> _Drow_, go to debian than
[12:29] <soundray> hawking, what's your version of libxkbfile1?
[12:29] <ashyg> okay thanks mitrovarr
[12:30] <existance> mwe, so how would i have one monitor thats ati and the other nvidia?
[12:30] <bimberi> gnomefreak: probably is, to say the opposite :)
[12:30] <ashyg> i have a d-link dwlg122 usb wireless adaptor
[12:30] <phiber_optic> gnomefreak do you know whats the command for booting in grub in command base?
[12:30] <ashyg> how do i use it with linux
[12:30] <hawking> soundray : how to figure that out*
[12:30] <mwe> existance: I don't understand, you have two videocards in the same machine?
[12:30] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, please explain
[12:30] <existance> mwe, yea, AGP and a PCI
[12:30] <gnomefreak> lol bimberi
[12:31] <bimberi> :P
[12:31] <soundray> hawking, dpkg -l libxkbfile1. Also, do a dpkg -l xkeyboard-config and pls let me know both versions.
[12:31] <mwe> existance: I have no idead how to configure that
[12:31] <kamme> hello, I've installed apache2 and php5 for the first time on my server, and it works perfect for me, but noone else can view pages from it. What could be wrong?
[12:31] <phiber_optic> lets say I dont have the gui, and im only command how could I boot ubuntu.. I mean what would be the command to start it
[12:31] <soundray> hawking *version numbers
[12:31] <existance> mwe, mm, oh well
[12:31] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Oh, one thing
[12:32] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, to start gnome you mean?
[12:32] <hawking> soundray : libxkbfile1 is 7.0.0-3 and xkeyboard-config is 0.6-5breezy1
[12:32] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I don't think it'll let you have different true resolutions on the two monitors.  When I set to different resolutions on the two, it makes them both the same resolution with a panning desktop on the bigger one
[12:32] <mwe> phiber_optic: you would not need a command to start it
[12:32] <phiber_optic> noop, lets say I turn on my computer. Then I get to the grup command promp. How will I be able to boot ubuntu
[12:32] <mwe> phiber_optic: you'd just login at the console
[12:32] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, when you turn your pc on if you are dual booting it will give you a choice to boot from whatever is insstalled
[12:32] <soundray> hawking, it may be worth reinstalling them: 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install libxkbfile1 xkeyboard-config'
[12:32] <hawking> soundray : tryin
[12:33] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, use the arrows to scroll to what you want to boot to and poof log-in all is well
[12:33] <phiber_optic> yeahh.. I know but lets say it is not showing me the options. it only shows me the command prompt
[12:33] <ashyg> so does anyone know how i can use this dwlg d-link usb wireless dongle because i need to get online really bad
[12:33] <pinkisntwell> do I have to have my printer turned on when I login for it to work?
[12:33] <ashyg> dwlg122 *
[12:33] <hawking> soundray : I guess I'll have to restart x after that right?
[12:33] <dabugas> heh.... randomly installing relevant packages solved my problem: with akode-mpeg i get audio in xine :)
[12:33] <soundray> hawking, first try setxkbmap without restarting.
[12:33] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, than either you just have ubuntu on that pc or grub is broken
[12:33] <mwe> phiber_optic: I don't understand your question. you want to know how to start X from the command line or what
[12:33] <bnD> hi, can someone tell me how to make an iso from a cd-rom?
[12:34] <bnD> so i can then burn multiple copies of it?
[12:34] <hawking> soundray : same error
[12:34] <bimberi> phiber_optic: i'll paste the commands from my menu.lst in #flood
[12:34] <gnomefreak> mwe i think he is ssaying grub doesnt show up
[12:34] <hawking> soundray : maybe I should try xkeyboard-config version 0.6.6
[12:34] <hawking> as written in bugzilla
[12:34] <mwe> gnomefreak: oh
[12:34] <zelevw> bnD: try using gnomebaker or k3b
[12:34] <bain> Hi all, I'm having great difficulty getting ubuntu with a number of things. First off I cannot get it on the net. using network-admin I cannot add a new connection for my wireless. there is no "Add" button to add a connection
[12:34] <soundray> hawking, if you mean 0.6-6, I agree. Restart X this time to be sure.
[12:34] <phiber_optic> ok lets say I only installed grub, what will be the command to start ubuntu if I m not able to scroll
[12:34] <bain> I'm running Breezy
[12:35] <cello_rasp> hmm i have gnome 2.12 but it seems i cant change the preferred applications for filetypes..
[12:35] <gnomefreak> mwe im not sure cause he was trying to install splash but was asking me if that was grub :(
[12:35] <robotgeek> bain: install network-manager
[12:35] <bnD> zelevw, i dont see an option for ripping cd -> iso
[12:35] <phiber_optic> if im in grub command line mode
[12:35] <bain> robotgeek: aha,h ok  .. thanks . .
[12:35] <bimberi> phiber_optic: there are a few, i'll paste the commands from my menu.lst in #flood
[12:35] <hawking> soundray : ok
[12:35] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah :|
[12:35] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, there is no grub command line unoless you hit something you didnt want to
[12:35] <cello_rasp> bnD: rightclick the cd disk icon on the desktop?
[12:35] <ashyg> How do I get my D-Link DWLG122 wireless USB adaptor working in Ubuntu?
[12:35] <mwe> !tell bain about wireless
[12:36] <bnD> cello_rasp, im not in gnome
[12:36] <soundray> bnD, it should just work by doing 'sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso'
[12:36] <mwe> bain: read /msg from ubotu
[12:36] <bain> second .. get X to use nvidia .. I keep getting "device not found" when trying to modprobe
[12:36] <bnD> soundray, that will make an iso?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell phiber_optic about grub
[12:36] <ashyg>   Needs linux-wlan-ng and manual configuration is what the wiki says
[12:36] <soundray> bnD, if your CD is in iso format, yes.
[12:36] <bnD> soundray, thanks
[12:36] <mwe> !tell bain about nvidia
[12:36] <phiber_optic> thanx gnomefreak
[12:36] <mwe> bain: read that too
[12:36] <gnomefreak> yw phiber_optic
[12:37] <cello_rasp> !tell cello_rasp about wireless
[12:37] <bain> ok .. thanks all
[12:37] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  You can use ndiswrapper if it doesn't have a linux driver
[12:37] <mwe> mitrovarr: it doesn't work with all cards though
[12:37] <Moratorium> what does "failed to initialize HAL mean?
[12:37] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i don't understand, what is ndiswrapper? i can't download anything on this computer, remember
[12:37] <bain> mwe: ok .. the wireless device is not "wireless", I usually use adsl-setup etc to set it up .. it's connected via ethernet ..
[12:37] <mitrovarr> mwe:  Maybe not, but it works on a lot.  It worked on mine.  Certainly it is worth a shot.
[12:37] <ashyg> so no apt-get from universe
[12:38] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  ndiswrapper is on the CD.  Good decision on whoever made the cd's part :-D
[12:38] <mwe> mitrovarr: right!
[12:38] <tuv> synaptic says packages are not authenticated, what is the command to update apt keys?
[12:38] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Let me remember how I did this...
[12:38] <mwe> bain: you're wireless is not wireless :)
[12:38] <levander> Is there a command line command I can run to see if there are updates for my system?  Maybe it is 'apt-get --simulate update', but that seems to take a little long.
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tuv about gpg
[12:38] <mwe> bain: well in that case it's a different story
[12:38] <Moratorium> what does "failed to initialize HAL" mean?
[12:39] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  You have windows drivers for it?
[12:39] <soundray> levander, apt-get dist-upgrade. Just say no to the question that follows.
[12:39] <gnomefreak> levander, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:39] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i do
[12:39] <ashyg> mitrovarr: win xp and win nt versions
[12:39] <gnomefreak> i think its sudo after the &&
[12:39] <bain> mwe: well it is wireless .. but it uses pppoe over ethernet ;P but it's not wirless as in 801b or whatever the spec is ;P
[12:39] <mitrovarr> ashyg: alright, find the .inf file for the driver
[12:39] <jaygo333> wot do I do now
[12:39] <mitrovarr> ashyg: on the cd or whatnot
[12:39] <levander> No guys, I just want to check to see if there are updates.  I don't want to actually update.
[12:39] <jaygo333> first time in irc
[12:39] <Xenguy> levander: I do this daily: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:39] <gnomefreak> jaygo333, are you having issues with ubuntu?
[12:39] <bain> lemme try installing network-manager ..
[12:39] <mitrovarr> ashyg: oh, one thing, ndiswrapper might concievably make the system unstable, give you kernal panics, etc.  It works great for me but ymmv.
[12:40] <levander> jaygo333: you just ask questions, this is a support channel, do you have questions about unbuntu
[12:40] <Xenguy> levander: nm
[12:40] <bain> be back later
[12:40] <soundray> jaygo333, hang around and answer support questions :)
[12:40] <hawking> soundray : still the same error ://
[12:40] <ashyg> mitrovarr: okay well i found the inf now what
[12:40] <platos> levander: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -s
[12:40] <Moratorium> what does "failed to initialize HAL" mean?  anybody?
[12:40] <platos> levander: it will show you the packages it wants to updaet
[12:40] <gnomefreak> -s?
[12:40] <lsuactiafner> anyone know of nice software to create a 1 minute clip digitally?
[12:40] <soundray> hawking, this is strange. I'll have a look at your trace again.
[12:40] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Let me find some instructions.  It's easy, but you have to do it right
[12:40] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhh
[12:40] <gnomefreak> nm
[12:40] <jaygo333> nice, I need help with my ati at the moment
[12:40] <hawking> soundray : what was the command to trace that?
[12:40] <fluffyashes> Can i get some help?
[12:40] <ashyg> also mitrovarr should i try the win xp or win 2000 drivers
[12:40] <Moratorium> Im getting that error upon the start up of xwindows
[12:41] <avouser> got dirty with it!
[12:41] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I don't know.  I'd try XP first, I guess.
[12:41] <ashyg> ok
[12:41] <phiber_optic> I LOVE UBUNTUU
[12:41] <platos> levander: for more information see too: apt-get --help
[12:41] <Moratorium> dont we all, jaygo333
[12:41] <fluffyashes> I'm getting an error: (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing ubuntu-desktop (--remove):
[12:41] <fluffyashes>  files list file for package `nautilus' contains empty filename
[12:41] <fluffyashes> " whenver i try and use apt-get
[12:41] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  try the ndiswrapper command to make sure it's installed
[12:41] <soundray> hawking, 'strace setxkbmap tr'. But I still have the output. It won't have changed if the error is the same.
[12:41] <LordMelkor> how can i configure my grafx driver?
[12:41] <avouser> made sym link to rsh and rlogin
[12:41] <ashyg> yea, i just installed it from synaptic Mit
[12:41] <ashyg> mitrovarr:
[12:41] <mitrovarr> ashyg: ah
[12:41] <avouser> them setup passwordless ssh
[12:41] <LordMelkor> or how do i access DRI?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, go tell xp users ubuntu is better :)
[12:42] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Do a ndiswrapper -i <path of .inf file>
[12:42] <mwe> Moratorium: it means it failed to initialize the hardware abstraction layer. to find out why I need log files though
[12:42] <phiber_optic> yeahh I know F.... WINBLOWS
[12:42] <hawking> soundray : here it is http://rafb.net/paste/results/6gQZlR64.html it's same I guess
[12:42] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  did that work?
[12:42] <fluffyashes> I have an error with apt-get can anyone help me?
[12:42] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  You may need to sudo
[12:42] <Moratorium> mwe, I have no way to give you those
[12:42] <Moratorium> or find them
[12:42] <mwe> Moratorium: bad luck then
[12:42] <LordMelkor> How can I configure my graphics driver? or How do I access DRI?
[12:43] <mwe> Moratorium: /var/log
[12:43] <Moratorium> how do i get to the terminal without a mouse?
[12:43] <hawking> soundray : access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)      = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)   there is smth missing I guess
[12:43] <ashyg> okay mitrovarr i think it did
[12:43] <sampan> moratorium  hit alt-f2 -- type: gnome-terminal ... then alt-tab to select it -- that should work i think
[12:43] <ashyg> it said something about specified destination directory does not exist but it still copied
[12:44] <ashyg> mitrovarr: now what is left to do
[12:44] <SmartUnix> hi
[12:44] <haasteem> hi, how can i check if alsa is running in blackbox?... i suspect something is not right with my sound now that i run ubuntu in blackbox...
[12:44] <LordMelkor> any ideas?
[12:44] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  now do 'ndiswrapper -m' to make it a module.
[12:44] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i run ndiswrapper -l and it says Installed ndis drivers: windows invalid driver!
[12:44] <phiber_optic> ill be back
[12:45] <ashyg> okay i ran that
[12:45] <soundray> hawking, that isn't the problem. It loads another file instead and continues. The problem is further down...
[12:45] <SmartUnix> what is this message mean
[12:45] <SmartUnix> NO CARRIER
[12:45] <SmartUnix> --> No Carrier!  Trying again.
[12:45] <Moratorium> ok, which log? mwe
[12:45] <hawking> soundray  : I see
[12:45] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  did you try ndiswrapper -m?
[12:45] <ashyg> yea i did mitrovarr
[12:45] <ashyg> it worked
[12:45] <soundray> hawking, where it tries to "write(3, "\222\27\24\0\0\1\277\0\377\0\1\0\0\27xfree86+aliases(q"..., 80) = 80" and fails
[12:45] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  then do 'modprobe ndiswrapper' to load the module
[12:45] <ashyg> said adding alis wlan0 ndiswrapper to modprobe bla bla
[12:45] <hawking> soundray : oh what's that?
[12:46] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  now you do ndiswrapper -l
[12:46] <ashyg> ok i ran that mitrovarr
[12:46] <soundray> hawking, but I don't know what to make of the "resource temporarily unavailable"
[12:46] <ashyg> says windows invalid driver
[12:46] <ashyg> when i do -l
[12:46] <mitrovarr> ashyg: did you try it again after doing modprobe and such?
[12:46] <ashyg> yes
[12:46] <fluffyashes> I have a error with apt-get and can't update or install anything can someone help me
[12:46] <mitrovarr> ashyg: shoot
[12:46] <platos> fluffyashes: what is your error message?
[12:46] <hawking> soundray : :/
[12:46] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  did it load the module ok?
[12:46] <soundray> hawking, have you tried setting up another user, logging into KDE as that and changing the kbd layout there?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, what erorr?
[12:46] <ashyg> mitrovarr: yes
[12:46] <hawking> soundray : no... can that help?
[12:47] <ashyg> it didn't barf if that's what you mean
[12:47] <fluffyashes> platos:  files list file for package `nautilus' contains empty filename
[12:47] <ashyg> mitrovarr: it had no success message either though
[12:47] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  try going into system -> administration -> networking to see if your wireless card shows up
[12:47] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: there's more than what i just said but that's the gist of it, after that it quits cause it has too many errors
[12:47] <platos> fluffyashes: try apt-get -f install
[12:47] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i don't see it in there
[12:47] <zelevw> ashyg: iwconfig
[12:47] <soundray> hawking, we're ringfencing the problem :)
[12:47] <platos> fluffyashes: most of the time that solves it
[12:47] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, are the other errors caused by that one or is that one caused by them?
[12:47] <mwe> Moratorium: probably syslog and Xorg.0.log
[12:47] <hawking> soundray : :) trying that
[12:48] <ashyg> zelevw: says no wireless extensions on lo, eth0 and sit0
[12:48] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  shoot.   I mean it used to work before
[12:48] <Moratorium> nevermind, mwe, Im going to try and get the touchpad working first
[12:48] <fluffyashes> platos: that command just multiplied my errors by the power of 10
[12:48] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  make sure you're doing the whole thing as root or with sudo
[12:48] <hawking> soundray : that's why I want to reinstall X
[12:48] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i used sudo
[12:48] <hawking> soundray : doesn't that make sense?
[12:48] <ashyg> mitrovarr: so how do i start
[12:48] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, you used sudo right?
[12:49] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: that's the only error it was showing before it quit
[12:49] <tuv> gnomefreak: i don't need to know about gpg, i need to know how to update apt's keys so that packages get authenticated
[12:49] <mitrovarr> ashyg: if ndiswrapper -l failed I don't know exactly.  I'd try the same sequence on the NT drivers, maybe.
[12:49] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: yes, i did
[12:49] <soundray> hawking, well, I suppose it's worth a try.
[12:49] <fluffyashes> let me get a pastebin on what it just spit out
[12:49] <soundray> hawking, 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg'
[12:49] <hawking> soundray : ok trying... will kde go down as doing that?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> tuv,  gpg keys are what apt checks before installing a package
[12:50] <tuv> gnomefreak: i know, but i need the new keys for some repositories so that packages get authenticated
[12:50] <JairunCaloth> does anyone have experiance connecting MIDI keyboards via usb?
[12:50] <soundray> hawking, no, but I would stop X and do it from the console just for sanity.
[12:50] <gnomefreak> tuv, apt compares the gpg against the key number apt has if it has it if not it will error
[12:50] <gnomefreak> tuv, what repos?
[12:50] <ashyg> mitrovarr: when i run ndiswrapper -i .inf it says "dirname: too many arguments try dirname --help... installing windows cp: '/etc/ndiswrapper/windows/windows.inf': specified destination directory does not exist' try cp--help
[12:50] <tonyisntcreative> does anyone in here use notlame?
[12:50] <ashyg> i think ndiswrapper is broken
[12:51] <Blipp> as
[12:51] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  ah
[12:51] <fluffyashes> platos, gnomefreak: here is my latest terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7042
[12:51] <SmartUnix> http://pastebin.com/503250 this is problem which show for me
[12:51] <soundray> ashyg, yes, by design :)
[12:51] <mwe> you can add keys with apt-key
[12:51] <DShepherd> **shouts like town boy** 3 months left to dapper and all is well
[12:51] <DShepherd> **shouts like town boy** 3 months left to dapper and all is well
[12:51] <ashyg> all is not well, i've been trying for 24 hours straight to get this stupid computer to network
[12:51] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  try copying the contents of the directory with the .inf to another, more accessible directory
[12:52] <DavidW2> Hi. It seems that apache2 requires apache, but when apache starts up startup it is conflicting with apache2
[12:52] <ashyg> hey mitrovarr do you know why it configured my settings via DHCP fine during installation
[12:52] <ashyg> but after installation dhconfig does not work(not via wireless, this is via my wired connection)
[12:52] <platos> ashyg: dapper is great, however lots o bugs in it
[12:52] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  It dhcp'd over the network while installing ubuntu?
[12:52] <ashyg> because my ethernet controller is not supported in the linux kernel... does the installation process not use the linux kernel?
[12:52] <DShepherd> DavidW2, from what I know apache2 doesnt require apache
[12:52] <ashyg> mitrovarr: the wired one did, yes
[12:53] <LordMelkor> how can i enable direct rendering?
[12:53] <mitrovarr> ashyg: oh, well, that should have worked.
[12:53] <DavidW2> DShepherd: something is pulling it in. How do I check which package wants it?
[12:53] <LordMelkor> when i run "glxinfo|grep direct" in the terminal
[12:53] <DavidW2> DShepherd: Also, how can I just make it not start by default, so that only apache2 starts?
[12:53] <ashyg> mitrovarr: no, i can see that my DNS servers and everything are set right
[12:53] <LordMelkor> i get direct render: No
[12:53] <hawking> soundray : guess what happened? #@;)
[12:53] <phiber_optic> I tried to changed the background for the grub booter and I couldnt :(
[12:53] <ashyg> HOWEVER i cannot run dhconfig or connect to any intra/internet addresses
[12:53] <tonyisntcreative> does anyone in here use notlame?
[12:53] <soundray> hawking, same problem?
[12:53] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  So you're trying to use the wired card now?
[12:54] <hawking> soundray : no it's done!
[12:54] <phiber_optic> i put this to my menu.lst and it didnt work splashimage=(hdb1,0)/boot/grup/images/grubuntu.xpm.gz
[12:54] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, i told you its alot of work and its not easy
[12:54] <ashyg> i want to use either, mitrovarr
[12:54] <hawking> soundray : :)
[12:54] <phiber_optic> yeah i know
[12:54] <phiber_optic> :(
[12:54] <fluffyashes> platos: here's the error to the fix command with apt-get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7042
[12:54] <soundray> hawking, arrgh! Sorry I held you up.
[12:54] <ashyg> either that will work so i don't have to switch to gentoo until dapper comes out ;)
[12:54] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I'd be surprised if the wired card didn't just work, most of them work in linux.
[12:54] <hawking> soundray : no problems :) I appreciate your help
[12:54] <ashyg> mitrovarr: it's a known issue with the linux kernel and my ethernet driver
[12:54] <platos> fluffyashes: weird error, are you using breezy?
[12:54] <ashyg> mitrovarr: it's been fixed in the latest versions of the kernel
[12:54] <Tortel> !tell me about apt
[12:54] <gnomefreak> grub is not something to play with unless you know what to do before you do it cause it can and will leave your pc unusable :)
[12:54] <hawking> soundray : just kde looks a bit fuzzy
[12:54] <mitrovarr> ashyg: oh.... I bet the installer uses a different kernel
[12:54] <ashyg> mitrovarr: and in dapper
[12:54] <platos> fluffyashes: are are you upgrading?
[12:54] <DShepherd> DavidW2, sudo aptitude install apache2 should install apache
[12:54] <phiber_optic> ;)
[12:54] <hawking> soundray : I'll restart the comp
[12:55] <mitrovarr> ashyg: you could always download the sources and compile yourself a newer kernel
[12:55] <soundray> hawking, an antialiasing thing?
[12:55] <phiber_optic> i just want to change the background
[12:55] <gnomefreak> platos, what if he uninstalled ubuntu-desktop and reinstalled it?
[12:55] <fluffyashes> platos: this is a fresh install i just did apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[12:55] <phiber_optic> to put an ubuntu one
[12:55] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i can't compile a new kernel because you need gcc 3.4 to do it
[12:55] <hawking> soundray : no I mean the fonts got a bit bigger
[12:55] <mitrovarr> ashyg: ah.  Let me check to see if ndis is supposed to work with your wireless card
[12:55] <platos> fluffyashes: yeah but what version? 5.10 or 6.04 ?
[12:55] <fluffyashes> platos: no matter what i try to install from apt-get or dpkg it sends me that error
[12:55] <mwe> ashyg: install gcc3.4
[12:55] <ashyg> and i can't get gcc 3.4 because you need the internet for it :)
[12:55] <mwe> ashyg: install gcc3.4
[12:55] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I bet the installer uses a different kernel than the system it installs
[12:55] <ashyg>  Needs linux-wlan-ng and manual configuration
[12:55] <specialbuddy> how do I get karamba on synaptic
[12:55] <platos> gnomefreak: that could work
[12:56] <DavidW2> DShepherd: I have apache2 already...
[12:56] <ashyg> that is what the hardware support wiki entry says about my wireless adaptor, mitrovarr
[12:56] <phiber_optic> any hints gnome freak?
[12:56] <fluffyashes> platos: 5.10
[12:56] <soundray> hawking, may be a dpi thing.
[12:56] <DShepherd> DavidW2, do you need apache also?
[12:56] <mwe> !info karamba
[12:56] <ubotu> karamba: (A program improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.17-5build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[12:56] <hawking> soundray : would restarting fix that?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> it looks like all ther errors are based around that one package
[12:56] <ashyg> ok i installed linux-wlan-ng
[12:56] <LordMelkor> how can i enable direct rendering????
[12:56] <mwe> specialbuddy: add universe to sources.list
[12:56] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, try sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[12:56] <mwe> !tell specialbuddy about universe
[12:56] <specialbuddy> thanks
[12:56] <LordMelkor> when i run "glxinfo|grep direct" in the terminal, i get direct rendering: no
[12:56] <bain> and back again .. ;P
[12:57] <soundray> hawking, I don't know. It's a question of what the combination of your monitor and graphics card report as the dpi value, and how the X driver handles that info.
[12:57] <platos> gnomefreak: yeah and around nautilus i think
[12:57] <mwe> LordMelkor: 3d is b0rked then
[12:57] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: that gives me my original error
[12:57] <DShepherd> DavidW2, if not..uninstall it.
[12:57] <gnomefreak> LordMelkor, that means you dont have 3d acceleration
[12:57] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: i basically can't do anyhting with apt-get
[12:57] <hawking> soundray  : I see anyway I have my layout it's not that important :)))
[12:57] <soundray> hawking, so go ahead and try.
[12:57] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, remind me what the error is please
[12:57] <bain> mwe: ok ... where can I get info on doing pppoe connections on a fresh ubuntu install ?
[12:57] <platos> fluffyashes: apt-get remove nautilus
[12:57] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Ah.  Well, I don't have experience with those particular programs, ndiswrapper worked without any problems for my usb adapter.
[12:57] <fluffyashes> platos: i've tried that i still get the same error
[12:57] <mwe> bain: have you checked wiki.ubuntu.com?
[12:57] <soundray> hawking, happy typing in turkish then. :)
[12:57] <DavidW2> DShepherd: services-admin can do this, btu only graphically :(
[12:58] <platos> gnomefreak: could dpkg be broken
[12:58] <hawking> soundray : well I couldn't type @ and # too ;)
[12:58] <DavidW2> DShepherd: No, I don't need apache, but as I said as soon as I uninstall it, the next update pulls it back in
[12:58] <hawking> soundray : to join a channel I had to find #somewhere and copy-paste lol
[12:58] <gnomefreak> platos, it could but i would the the .deb package would be first
[12:58] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7043
[12:58] <tonyisntcreative> does anyone in here use notlame?
[12:58] <mwe> bain: I don't know of hand since I've never used pppoe
[12:58] <DShepherd> DavidW2, I am not sure why that happens...
[12:58] <gnomefreak> dpkg is hard to break :(
[12:58] <ratschnowski> hello, i am using postfix 2.2.4 on ubuntu breezer withd PAM/SASL/POSTGRESQL, When doing smtp authentication i always get the error: SASL authentication failure: size read failed
[12:58] <soundray> hawking, hold on a second, there's a trick you should know...
[12:58] <ashyg> guys how do i view the currently connected usb items
[12:58] <fluffyashes> platos: the error i've been getting from the begining is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7043 i get it basically with every apt-get command
[12:59] <bimberi> ashyg: lsusb
[12:59] <Mabus06> hey, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a dell, but it keeps failing during the install, right after the part where you pick what kernel to use (it fails regardless of the choice).. I installed ubuntu with this same cd just yesterday on this machine, and it worked fine. Could anyone help?
[12:59] <ratschnowski> anyoneknow what that error means?
[12:59] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  usbview works really well if you have it
[12:59] <DShepherd> DavidW2, try #apache
[12:59] <Delvien> Anyone able to configure VMWARE under Linux kernel version 2.6.16-11-386?
[12:59] <phiber_optic> gnomefreak how can i see what partition name suchs as hd1 or hdb2 is my linux?
[01:00] <mwe> Mabus06: the same cd fails on the same machine that accepted it the day before?
[01:00] <ashyg>   USB stick - works well in Breezy / ndiswrapper (the one provided in synaptic), with the drivers provided on the CD
[01:00] <sklav> i got a question
[01:00] <ashyg> mitrovarr:  i was looking at the wrong one on the list
[01:00] <ashyg> mitrovarr:   USB stick - works well in Breezy / ndiswrapper (the one provided in synaptic), with the drivers provided on the CD
[01:00] <ashyg> that's the proper info for my stick
[01:00] <sklav> to become a maintainer i have a question regarding debs
[01:00] <ashyg> so can you help me remove the modprobe and all that and start over/
[01:00] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, type apt-cache gcc
[01:00] <Mabus06> mwe, no, this machine installed with that cd just fine. The dell does not. The dell also had problems installing windows.
[01:00] <ashyg> i ran modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[01:00] <ashyg> and that worked
[01:00] <sklav> does it automatically calcxulate what package is installed or like rpm you have to specify the %install?
[01:00] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  <nods>
[01:01] <ashyg> and ndiswrapper -e windows
[01:01] <Delvien> Anyone help with this http://pastebin.com/503265??
[01:01] <ashyg> then ndiswrapper -i nt.info
[01:01] <mwe> Mabus06: it's a windows pc and it can't install windows?
[01:01] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  now it's just ndiswrapper -i <path to driver>
[01:01] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: sudo apt-cache gcc returns "E: Invalid operation gcc"
[01:01] <mwe> Mabus06: sounds like broken hardware
[01:01] <mitrovarr> ashyg: ndiswrapper -m
[01:01] <paulproteus|lapt> apt-cache search gcc, fluffyashes
[01:01] <ashyg> and then ndiswrapper -m and it said that a modprobe entry already exists for it
[01:01] <paulproteus|lapt> *search*
[01:01] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:01] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  hmm.  Sounds like you need to get rid of the old module
[01:01] <gnomefreak> apt-cache search gcc
[01:02] <sklav> Delvien, i think its /usr/include/something
[01:02] <fluffyashes> paulproteus|lapt: it sent me a lot of info that's it
[01:02] <ashyg> mitrovarr: how is that done
[01:02] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, have you tried using synaptic?
[01:02] <mitrovarr> ashyg: looking it up
[01:02] <paulproteus|lapt> Synaptic is da bomb.
[01:02] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  worst-case scenario, go look for the ndiswrapper file in the file system
[01:02] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: if you mean the graphical version of apt-get (the one that appears in the tray) then it has the same error
[01:03] <hawking> soundray : lol I restarted it and keyboard layout gone again
[01:03] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm
[01:03] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, i mean that one that is found in system>admin>synaptic
[01:03] <timfrost> Delvien, have you installed build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r) and gcc-3.4?
[01:03] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: System>Admin>Update Manager
[01:03] <Steve^> opera likes to call kfmclient for opening downloaded files in the right program. I presume that is a KDE thing though, what would the gnome equivalent be?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, no
[01:03] <mwe> hawking: so just fix it at every boot :)
[01:03] <Delvien> timfrost aye :p
[01:03] <Psi-Jack> Oh yeah. I have an Nvidia card, and I'm wondering why GL screensavers run /extremely/ slow. Any ideas?
[01:03] <hawking> mwe : reinstalling X at every boot?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> i mean system>admin>synaptic package mannager
[01:03] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  It should be in /lib/modules somewhere
[01:04] <hawking> isn't that weird?
[01:04] <mwe> hawking: yeah
[01:04] <Delvien> timfrost lemme install them again just to make sure
[01:04] <soundray> hawking, quick tip: Shift-Ctrl-23 generates #. Shift-Ctrl-40 is for @. man ascii to find out the hex code for each character you want to enter.
[01:04] <Steve^> hawking, I had to reinstall my sound drivers every reboot in SuSE. Gets tiring, and that's fairly simple
[01:04] <sklav> Delvien, try /usr/include/linux
[01:04] <Ophiocus> can cp take an argument in between brackets if the directory has white spaces?
[01:04] <mwe> hawking: why would you reintall X to fix keyboard layout?
[01:04] <sklav> Psi-Jack, probably cause you dont have 3d-acceleration running
[01:05] <hawking> mwe: wish I knew why
[01:05] <Delvien> sklav trying that now
[01:05] <Ophiocus> sorry in between quotation marks
[01:05] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Well, I'm using the nvidia-glx driver... What else is there?
[01:05] <Delvien> sklav nope, thanks tho
[01:05] <mwe> hawking: you mean the layout in X I take it then
[01:05] <sklav> Psi-Jack, you need to enable it
[01:05] <soundray> mwe, it works that way, that's why...
[01:05] <hawking> mwe : yeah and in KDE
[01:05] <Delvien> timfrost hmm looks like i didnt have the headers... omg all that and i forgot to instal the headers
[01:05] <hawking> mwe : setxkbmap command is for both
[01:05] <testman> you need laptop???
[01:05] <testman> low low price
[01:05] <mwe> hawking: in kde it can be fixed in kcontrol
[01:05] <Psi-Jack> sklav: OKay.. How would I do that? I'm not extremely familiar with X.org
[01:05] <sklav> Psi-Jack, try sudo config-glx enable
[01:06] <sklav> 1 sec
[01:06] <mwe> hawking: for X in general xorg.conf
[01:06] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Ahhh..
[01:06] <hawking> mwe : not if setxkbmap is working
[01:06] <sklav> im making a mistake
[01:06] <hawking> mwe : both fails then
[01:06] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Okay
[01:06] <platos> fluffyashes: you could try rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/nautilus.*     //but no guarantees on this one
[01:06] <sklav> i think its nvidia-glv-config enable
[01:06] <soundray> mwe, we'ce been through all of that.
[01:06] <testman> you need laptop  low low price !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:06] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  try ndiswrapper -l to list the drivers and then ndiswrapper -e <driver that is listed>
[01:06] <sklav> autocomplete on command line should solve it
[01:06] <Delvien> testman what?
[01:06] <soundray> testman, wrong channel.
[01:06] <fluffyashes> platos: i'm currently trying synaptics, it's downloading the files now, i'll keep you updated
[01:07] <mwe> soundray, hawking I'll stop playing clever about it then
[01:07] <platos> fluffyashes: does it downloads? thats great
[01:07] <Psi-Jack> sklav: I have nothing beginning with nvidi on my system..
[01:07] <sklav> try config-glx
[01:07] <fluffyashes> platos: well update manager would download them but it wouldn't install them
[01:07] <sklav> Psi-Jack, 1 sec as im on gentoo now
[01:07] <sklav> and trying to refresh my memory
[01:07] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Hehe, I see. :)
[01:07] <hawking> soundray : I have put "alias psmouse off" in /etc/modprobe.d/local to stop touchpad working... it's dumb I know but may that have caused this layout problem?
[01:07] <soundray> mwe, well, I'd appreciate if you could have a look at hawking's strace of setxkbmap... http://rafb.net/paste/results/6gQZlR64.html
[01:07] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, you will know just befoire it starts installing packages if it works
[01:07] <Mabus06> mwe, what could be broken?
[01:08] <hawking> soundray : ok
[01:08] <hawking> soundray : I reinstalled xkbutils and it worked
[01:08] <hawking> soundray : lol
[01:08] <platos> gnomefreak: how about him deleting /var/lib/dpkg/info/nautilus.* ?
[01:08] <hawking> soundray : this is crazy
[01:08] <mwe> Mabus06: ram, disk, whatever
[01:08] <mwe> Mabus06: cpu
[01:08] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: i get the same error with synaptics that i got with update manager
[01:08] <hawking> soundray : it was the command that has the bug
[01:08] <timfrost> Delvien, did installing headers fix your problem?
[01:08] <sklav> ok Psi-Jack do the following
[01:08] <soundray> hawking, wonder if it'll last through a reboot this time.
[01:08] <sklav> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable\
[01:08] <sklav> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[01:08] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: it just halts installation at (reading database ...
[01:08] <hawking> soundray : same here ...
[01:08] <pinkisntwell> do I have to have my printer turned on when I login for it to work?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> platos, i never did that :( i dont know never got a nautilus error on breezy :(
[01:09] <TCTCH> hi all, I reinstalled the VLC-Player a cuple days ago...and what do I see: It looks ugly since I upgrated to brezzy...is there any change to change that back?
[01:09] <soundray> hawking, did you get my line about Shift-Ctrl?
[01:09] <Psi-Jack> sklav: I don't have nvidia-glx-config, though..
[01:09] <sklav> Psi-Jack, do the following
[01:09] <platos> gnomefreak: well basically this is the error:  files list file for package `nautilus' contains empty filename
[01:09] <Mabus06> mwe, but it still runs and stuff.... :S
[01:09] <Delvien> timfrost looks like it
[01:10] <fluffyashes> platos: synaptics failed with the same error as update manager.  Apt-get is a little more descriptive this one just halts at reading database
[01:10] <bain__> alo.. again .. ok .. pppoeconf doens't work .. says it can't geta  responce frommy ISP
[01:10] <sklav> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:10] <gnomefreak> platos, i think thats a good shot
[01:10] <platos> fluffyashes, could you pastebin this file: /var/lib/dpkg/info/nautilus.list
[01:10] <sklav> bain__, i had issue with pppoeconf
[01:10] <bain> sklav: how did you solve it ?
[01:10] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Heh, wow.. nvidia-glx wasn't even installed..
[01:10] <sklav> i had to modify the /etc/ppp/pap-secret file
[01:10] <bain> since I'm on the same PC now using a gentoo boot cd
[01:11] <bain> sklav: to what ?
[01:11] <Delvien> timfrost had to do the UDF hack :P
[01:11] <bain> or do you mean manually ?
[01:11] <sklav> it would not save it the way i entered it
[01:11] <fluffyashes> platos: is it supposed to be in another language?
[01:11] <sklav> and look into /var/log/messages
[01:11] <bain> sklav: I don't even get to entering details ...
[01:11] <sklav> to see if you actually connecting
[01:11] <platos> fluffyashes: what do you mean? it should be english...
[01:12] <mwe> soundray: it looks like it can't find the rules
[01:12] <sklav> did you complete the pppoeconf or is it failing there?
[01:12] <fluffyashes> platos: it's not english http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7044
[01:12] <hawking> soundray : oh yeah! :)
[01:12] <bain> sklav: it fails ... it shows my eth .. then it tries to detect something .. which fails ..
[01:12] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Okay. BRB. Gotta restart X. :)
[01:12] <hawking> soundray : it's too weird that it was the command that had the bug lol
[01:12] <sklav> ok Psi-Jack
[01:12] <sklav> bain any weird network config?
[01:12] <platos> fluffyashes and that is this file:  /var/lib/dpkg/info/nautilus.list
[01:13] <tom__> so dare I ask how many times you guys have been asked to help with the wpa_supplicant
[01:13] <bain> sklav: no network .. single machine with one ethernet
[01:13] <soundray> hawking, so reinstalling xkbutils fixed it? (mwe!)
[01:13] <hawking> soundray : yup!
[01:13] <sklav> bain, you connected to the ethernet modem? or it is usb?
[01:13] <soundray> hawking, did you get my line about Shift-Ctrl?
[01:13] <mwe> that's odd
[01:13] <bain> sklav: ethernet
[01:13] <somerville32> How do I install gcc 3.* for Ubuntu?
[01:13] <sklav> ok
[01:13] <fluffyashes> platos: i copy and pasted that filename from xchat into a terminal window
[01:13] <hawking> soundray : can i get that ascii table somewhere?
[01:13] <sklav> and the setup alwas worked before?
[01:13] <soundray> hawking, man ascii
[01:14] <sklav> or is it 1st time setup
[01:14] <fluffyashes> platos:  gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/nautilus.list &
[01:14] <bain> sklav: first time using ubuntu ;P
[01:14] <platos> fluffyashes: wait a min i'll install nautilus on my breezy box
[01:14] <sklav> ok
[01:14] <sklav> what is your network card?
[01:14] <bain> sklav: but seasoned linux user ;P
[01:14] <sklav> which model
[01:14] <bain> sklav: davicom .. tulip based
[01:14] <sklav> ifconfig eth0 doe sit show anything?
[01:14] <hawking> soundray : so Ctrl+Shift + Hex value right?
[01:14] <bain> sklav: no
[01:15] <soundray> hawking, correct.
[01:15] <hawking> soundray : that's cool too :) thanx
[01:15] <sklav> you get an error or just something that is ip blank and so on
[01:15] <soundray> hawking, strangely, I have to press shift first.
[01:15] <Delvien> timfrost aye up and running, thanks for the suggestion . I love my vmware.... the only pleasurable experience i have with windows is when linux is running it
[01:15] <jtaylor> I am trying to silence a program by sending stderr and stdout to /dev/null but it still writes stuff to the screen... Is there something else I have to do?  I am currently doing ./program 2>&1 > /dev/null
[01:15] <soundray> hawking, it works with unicode, too.
[01:15] <hawking> soundray : bothworks here
[01:15] <bain> sklav: nope, only lo0
[01:15] <sklav> are you doing ifconfig eth0 exactly?
[01:16] <titanium> i moved and i just set up my computers. i can ping and connect using ssh to my headless ubuntu box, but I can't FTP into it; i get connection failed (connection closed by client). nothing has changed with my router or either of the systems; i unplugged them, moved, plugged them back in. i'm trying to connect through the local (internal) ip address. any ideas?
[01:16] <phiber_optic> does anyone know why every time i open xchat the nickname that I first used xchat is still there?
[01:16] <sklav> you should not see lo in this case
[01:16] <bain> sklav: just ifconfig
[01:16] <sklav> no type ifconfig eth0
[01:16] <sklav> to query eth0
[01:16] <somerville32> How do I install gcc 3.* for Ubuntu?
[01:16] <sklav> and tell me what it says
[01:16] <bain> sklav: brb .. rebooting ..
[01:16] <soundray> somerville, 'sudo apt-get install gcc-3.x'
[01:16] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install gcc gcc3.4
[01:17] <somerville32> Will it uninstall gcc 4.0?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> soundray, you have to have gcc to get gcc3.4 :(
[01:17] <gnomefreak> thats why build-essential is nice
[01:17] <soundray> somerville32, no.
[01:17] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: platos suggested that i paste the contents of  /var/lib/dpkg/info/nautilus.list and it seems to be in another language....
[01:17] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Much much better.. :)
[01:17] <sklav> ;)
[01:17] <sklav> awesome to the next issue Psi-Jack
[01:17] <sklav> hehe
[01:17] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, im gonna guess encryped?
[01:17] <somerville32> soundray: Then how will I invoke 3.* instead of 4.*
[01:17] <gnomefreak> or a code?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> paste it on pastebin and ill look at it
[01:18] <platos> gnomerfreak, fluffyashes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7045
[01:18] <soundray> somerville32, man update-alternatives
[01:18] <platos> gnomefreak: this is what i get
[01:18] <platos> gnomefreak: on my breezy box
[01:19] <pinkisntwell> anyone can help me with printing?
[01:19] <Psi-Jack> sklav: I noticed that I saw an Nvidia logo this time, after I killed kdm and it reloaded. :)
[01:19] <gnomefreak> platos, is that yours im looking at?
[01:19] <platos> gnomefreak: yes
[01:19] <phiber_optic> does anyone know how to change user information in xcha, since everytime i open I have to change it
[01:19] <mitrovarr> I wish they'd pick better names for the ubuntu version
[01:19] <mitrovarr> versions
[01:19] <gnomefreak> what did his look like?
[01:19] <soundray> hawking, are you all set now?
[01:19] <sklav> Psi-Jack, that is a good sign
[01:19] <platos> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7044
[01:19] <gnomefreak> other than empty :(
[01:19] <mitrovarr> Am I the only one who doesn't like them?
[01:19] <hawking> soundray : yup
[01:19] <Determinist> is there a log for the packages that have been installed on the system?
[01:19] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i get them confused
[01:19] <hawking> soundray : thanks :)
[01:19] <soundray> hawking, excellent.
[01:19] <soundray> yq
[01:19] <hawking> soundray : indeed
[01:20] <soundray> yw
[01:20] <hawking> :)
[01:20] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  me too.  Plus, they're just kind of lame.  Breezy badger?  wtf?
[01:20] <mwe> mitrovarr: you mean the codename like breezy?
[01:20] <mitrovarr> mwe: yeah
[01:20] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak, platos: what's weird is that this is a fresh install, the first terminal commands i did were apt-get update apt-get upgrade and that's when i started having the error
[01:20] <sklav> mitrovarr, when you say versions you mean the releases?
[01:20] <sklav> eaxample breezy ?
[01:20] <mitrovarr> sklaw: yeah
[01:20] <mwe> mitrovarr: is debian sarge better?
[01:20] <Determinist> i've just installed afew packages using synaptic, i need to know the dependencies synaptic installed for those packages, how can i find out the entire list of packages installed? is there some sort of log for that?
[01:20] <mitrovarr> mwe: a little, but not much
[01:20] <mwe> mitrovarr: or windows vista
[01:20] <specialbuddy> is it too late to make my swap partition bigger
[01:20] <mitrovarr> mwe:  again, a little, but not much
[01:21] <soundray> Determinist, 'apt-cache depends packagename'
[01:21] <platos> fluffyashes, try dpkg -r -P nautilus
[01:21] <phiber_optic> does anyone know how to change user information in xcha, since everytime i open I have to change it
[01:21] <mitrovarr> mwe:  I like version numbers or year numbers to be honest.
[01:21] <soundray> Determinist, there is an install log somewhere, too...
[01:21] <platos> fluffyashes, and then install nautilus with apt-get install nautilus
[01:21] <gnomefreak> i have a feeling he has a locales issue
[01:21] <mitrovarr> ashyg: did you get ndiswrapper working?
[01:21] <vir> hi is anyone able to help me get my onboard sound working on my mobo i'm using breezy and the chipset is a nforce 4
[01:21] <fluffyashes> platos: dpkg: conflicting actions --purge and --remove
[01:21] <gnomefreak> his locales file is in his nautlius info file
[01:22] <soundray> Determinist, check out the dir /var/log/installer/
[01:22] <Mabus06> Is anyone here willing to help me step by step with figuring out why ubuntu won't install on a second computer I have here?
[01:22] <mwe> mitrovarr: like ubuntu has?
[01:22] <Determinist> soundray, thanks, and yeah, just found it at /var/log/dpkg.log
[01:22] <sklav> phiber_optic, use the  serverlist option and then specify the settings by removing the global config option
[01:22] <gnomefreak> dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[01:22] <mitrovarr> mwe:  yeah, but no one ever uses them.  They just use breezy or hoary or something.  I can never remember which one I have.
[01:22] <platos> gnomefreak: that would be a good guess yes
[01:22] <phiber_optic> thanx
[01:22] <gnomefreak> everything i see in here says locale
[01:22] <sklav> next ubuntu release "beaver damn"
[01:23] <sklav> hehe
[01:23] <mitrovarr> heh
[01:23] <sklav> but to be honest i like it
[01:23] <Mabus06> Beefy Beaver
[01:23] <sklav> in a kidding kind of way
[01:23] <somerville32> Ok
[01:23] <somerville32> I installed gcc 3.4
[01:23] <somerville32> But I dunno where it went
[01:23] <mwe> mitrovarr: lsb_release will tell you what you have
[01:23] <platos> gnomefreak, fluffyashes: well i gotta go sleep, i hope you will find the solution
[01:23] <sklav> the old code names are gone back in the day when a release sounded cool hell i used them cause of it back when
[01:23] <fluffyashes> platos: thank you for your help
[01:24] <gnomefreak> thanks man
[01:24] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:24] <mitrovarr> mwe:  mine just says n/a
[01:24] <_jason2> mitrovarr, lsb_release -a
[01:24] <mwe> mitrovarr: lsb_release -a
[01:24] <ashyg> yea i think i am going to switch to gentoo until Dapper Duck comes out guys :( sorry... but i'm having too many problems with my internet not working and my sound not working and my dual monitors not working and just in general, everything not working
[01:24] <soundray> somerville32, 'man update-alternatives'
[01:24] <somerville32> nvm , I got it
[01:24] <timfrost> somerville32, what are you trying to do?
[01:24] <somerville32> :]
[01:24] <somerville32> It is gcc-3.4
[01:24] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, in your menu somewhere do you see language selecter?
[01:24] <mitrovarr> mwe:  ah.  Still, the names are just kind of silly
[01:24] <sklav> ashyg, you telling me you got all that working on gentoo but not on ubuntu?
[01:25] <ashyg> yes
[01:25] <sklav> wow
[01:25] <mwe> mitrovarr: maybe
[01:25] <sklav> took me 3 days to get my X working on gentoo
[01:25] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  why'd you leave gentoo?
[01:25] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: i think that's one of the packages that needs to be installed or wants to be installed
[01:25] <_jason2> ashyg, what kind of hardware do you have?
[01:25] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i tried ubuntu and i preferred it because everything worked out of the box on my other computer
[01:25] <ashyg> so i figured it'd work well on this one
[01:25] <mitrovarr> personally, when I was choosing linux distros I took one look at the gentoo install procedure and ran like hell
[01:25] <ashyg> and it's been hell
[01:25] <gnomefreak> im thinking it installed locales in wrong place
[01:26] <ashyg> _jason2: amd64 3800 proc, asrock 939 dual sata motherboard, nvidia 6600gt
[01:26] <sklav> mitrovarr, i installed gentoo cause i was bored
[01:26] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  that's probably your hardware, not your distro
[01:26] <student> why does this command not work?  sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:26] <sklav> now i dont want to delete it cause of all the time and work i put in
[01:26] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: i just tried to open nautilus and it loaded a bar in the panel but then disapeared
[01:26] <sorush20> guys I'm using linux ubuntu I upgraded to dapper via repositories change then i keept getting errors .. I have wirless home broadband..duing dhclient3 runnging I keep getting permission denied messages
[01:26] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Next issue. It just crashed my system, just simply looking at OpenGL screensavers...
[01:26] <gnomefreak> student, cause you didnt install vi
[01:26] <mwe> sklav: you have to be to bother the endless installation
[01:26] <soundray> gnomefreak, :)
[01:26] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I mean didn't you have to use ndiswrapper and twinview to get things working on gentoo?  or did they just work?
[01:26] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, you have issues and im really not sure what it is
[01:26] <_jason2> student, what error do you get
[01:26] <fluffyashes> wow
[01:27] <gnomefreak> vim comes on default install of ubuntu
[01:27] <sklav> Psi-Jack, word of advice not all screensavers are created equal
[01:27] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i didn't use wireless in gentoo because the kernel was updated enough to support my ethernet
[01:27] <ashyg> my wired ethernet, that is
[01:27] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: trying to run nautilus from terminal i get  /usr/bin/nautilus: /usr/bin/nautilus: cannot execute binary file
[01:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> soundray: Dapper is still unstable.
[01:27] <_jason2> gnomefreak, I think it sets up 'vi' to open vim as well.  At least mine did
[01:27] <ashyg> whereas breezy is using a way outdated kernel that doesn't have support for it
[01:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sorush20: Dapper is still unstable.
[01:27] <gnomefreak> student, replace vi with vim and see it open
[01:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sorry soundray - wrong autocomplete o_O
[01:27] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  ahh.  I'm really surprised it doesn't work in ubuntu, to be honest; a non-working ethernet card just boggles my mind.
[01:27] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: i'm gonna have to reinstall aren't i.  *sigh* this will be like the 3rd time
[01:27] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Well, I was actually looking at the same screensaver, different "modes" it had, when it crashed.
[01:27] <soundray> PuMpErNiCkLe, I only found that switch yesterday :)
[01:27] <sorush20> any way I can down grade?#
[01:27] <gnomefreak> _jasoni couldnt get vi to open it either i had to use vim
[01:28] <student> _jason2:  just simply nothing happens at all.  I'm logged on as a user with no admin rights.  I have done a "su administrator" to get to my admin enabled account.  then I type sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list and nothing happens.
[01:28] <mwe> isn't vi just an inderict link to vim, usually?
[01:28] <sklav> mwe ashyg find a packager that adds the latest and greatest kernel and install it
[01:28] <_jason2> gnomefreak, oh ok, must have been something I installed
[01:28] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I can't upgrade my kernel because I have a module that requres .9
[01:28] <sorush20> I suppose I should use the dc as a repository right
[01:28] <sklav> im sure it possible
[01:28] <Psi-Jack> Solar Winds' screensaver. In fact. :)
[01:28] <mitrovarr> sklav:  He doesn't have internet access right now
[01:28] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, im going to say yes but unless someone else knows in here :(
[01:28] <_jason2> student, how about if you use vim?
[01:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sorush20: 'dc'?
[01:28] <sklav> on 1 computer he does
[01:28] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: it's ok thanks for your help i'm off to reinstall!
[01:28] <ashyg> mitrovarr: not completely true, i can download and copy stuff to it
[01:28] <student> _jason2: no that doesn't work.  neither does gedit.
[01:28] <ashyg> mitrovarr: but i can't use apt-get
[01:28] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i can download .debs though
[01:28] <Mabus06> can someone engage in a msg chat with me in order to aid me in installing ubuntu on a computer that is really giving me troubles?
[01:28] <_jason2> student, paste what 'groups' returns
[01:28] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  well, you could d/l files but not install them, then copy them over
[01:29] <gnomefreak> ah hah
[01:29] <sorush20> PuMpErNiCkLe: what?
[01:29] <mwe> gnomefreak: I think you can use update-alternatives if you miss the vi symlinks
[01:29] <ashyg> mitrovarr: which files would i need
[01:29] <student> administrator adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[01:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sorush20: 'dc' = ?
[01:29] <student> _jason2: ^
[01:29] <gnomefreak> mwe i think  you can also
[01:29] <_jason2> student, administrator is not a member of the 'admin' group.  So he doesn't have sudo privileges.  What was the first user you created (during install)?
[01:30] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I don't know, to be honest.  I haven't downloaded a new kernel for my machines.
[01:30] <student> _jason2: yes he is.  I added him to the admin group just a moment ago and clicked OK.  then I went back into users and groups and verified that he was a member of admin group.
[01:30] <sorush20> PuMpErNiCkLe: what ? I need to be able to fix the computer.. I'm having problems starting adept
[01:30] <gnomefreak> permission error would have came up
[01:30] <student> _jason2: first user I created was "student".
[01:30] <mwe> gnomefreak: they were created by default on my system though :|
[01:30] <gnomefreak> student, what are the errors you are seeing
[01:30] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  did you give up on the wireless thing?  I think we could get it working
[01:30] <gnomefreak> damn lucky :)
[01:30] <ashyg> mitrovarr: no i didn't give up
[01:31] <student> _jason2:  "student" was first account created during installation.  I logged on, created administrator account and added him to "admin" group.  then I saved that change.  then I went back in and took "student" out of the admin group.
[01:31] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  are you still stuck at the part where ndiswrapper -m says there's a module already?
[01:31] <student> gnomefreak:  users and groups has a bug I think.
[01:31] <ashyg> mitrovarr: apparently ndiswrapper doesn't work on amd64 however
[01:31] <choudesh> hello all
[01:31] <ashyg> mitrovarr: so i need to recompile my own version so i am working on that
[01:31] <choudesh> small problem
[01:31] <gnomefreak> student, in breezy?
[01:31] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  oh, crap, I didn't realize you were using amd64
[01:31] <student> gnomefreak: I specifically added administrator to the admin group
[01:31] <_jason2> student, he isn't a member according to 'groups'
[01:31] <trinidad> what is a good app for partitioning after ubuntu is installed?
[01:31] <titanium_> i moved and i just set up my computers. i can ping and connect using ssh and ftp to my headless ubuntu box, but FTP and SSH are both VERY slow. i'm connecting internally, inside my router. any ideas?
[01:31] <student> gnomefreak: yes breezy.
[01:31] <cafuego> ashyg: Works fine if you have win64 drivers.
[01:31] <choudesh> I am using NIS and I have the following problem: whoami: cannot find username for UID 507
[01:31] <mwe> ashyg: like a lot of other stuff
[01:31] <soundray> ashyg, I hear it does if you can find a 64bit Windows driver.
[01:31] <gnomefreak> student, that would be a first i heard of it but it is possible
[01:31] <student> _jason2:  I added administrator to the admin group and saved the change and went back and verified that it was done.
[01:31] <student> now I have to reinstall AGAIN
[01:32] <timfrost> student, log out then back in to administrator.  groups will not update until you log *back* in
[01:32] <Mabus06> can someone engage in a msg chat with me in order to aid me in installing ubuntu on a computer that is really giving me troubles?
[01:32] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  *nothing* seems to work on 64 bit OSs as of yet.  I'd really try to use the 32 bit version unless you have a really compelling reason to use the 64 bit ones.
[01:32] <ashyg> where do i get win 64 drivers? i didn't even know there was a 64 bit windows
[01:32] <student> because of this funny ubuntu sudo-user stuff!!!! it's so frustrating
[01:32] <student> timfrost: really?
[01:32] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Check the manufacturer's website
[01:32] <student> okay I'll try
[01:32] <_jason2> student, maybe you need to su to administrator again.  exit and su again
[01:32] <mwe> student: you don't have to reinstall to fix sudo
[01:32] <ashyg> oh, really mitrovarr? i thought i needed to use the 64 bit version because i had a 64 bit proc
[01:32] <sorush20> If I could only gain internet access via dhclient3 I would be great .. iwconfig does show accesspoint but I can't ping the router any help
[01:32] <sklav> ashyg, there is a windows XP 64bit version out
[01:32] <soundray> mitrovarr, I have that compelling reason, and it makes it worth the little sacrifices.
[01:32] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  are you using the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> student, fixing admin listening to mwe's instructions is easy ty mwe :)
[01:32] <sklav> so im assuming there are drivers also
[01:32] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:32] <ashyg> mitrovarr: yes
[01:33] <sorush20> dhclient3 gives me permission denied
[01:33] <trinidad> what is a good app for partitioning after ubuntu is installed?
[01:33] <gnomefreak> gparted
[01:33] <soundray> trinidad, gparted
[01:33] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  what processor do you have?  I think 32 bit versions work fine on the modern 64 bit amds and intels but if you have itanium that may be different.
[01:33] <gnomefreak> brb again need smoke
[01:33] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i will go get the regular version though if you think it will be much less of a headache for me
[01:33] <ashyg> i have an amd64 northwood k8
[01:33] <mwe> gnomefreak: ?
[01:33] <trinidad> thank you
[01:33] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I don't know for sure.  Does anyone else know?
[01:33] <Delvien> tifrost you know alot about vaere??
[01:33] <student> nope I got screwed
[01:33] <student> now nobody is a member of admin group
[01:33] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I've just heard a lot about 64 bit OS support being buggy all across the board
[01:34] <student> even though I specifically added a new user with admin rights.
[01:34] <bain> alo
[01:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mitrovarr: Probably.
[01:34] <_jason2> student, we can fix it, don't worry.  How did you add him exactly?  using groups settings in administration?
[01:34] <mwe> student: edit your grub boot line
[01:34] <sklav> student, i think 64bit is most stable on linux at the moment
[01:34] <bain> sklav: ok .. syslog shows TX resets ... replaced network card .. and same problem ...
[01:34] <timfrost> Delvien, I have been running VMware for several years  for the 1 Windows app I needed.
[01:34] <mwe> student: at the prompt hilight the entry you normalle boot and press e
[01:34] <Mabus06> can someone please help me with errors I'm getting when installing ubuntu on a dell?
[01:34] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  what usb model was that again?
[01:34] <Delvien> timfrost hehe
[01:35] <bain> sklav: but It hink this machine is flakey ..
[01:35] <mwe> student: then hilight the kernel line (usually the second one)
[01:35] <Delvien> timfrost i cant seem to get my new mp3 player to be detected in Vmware.
[01:35] <sklav> hum
[01:35] <sklav> bain all is possible
[01:35] <mwe> student: then add init=/bin/sh
[01:35] <bain> sklav: yeah .. I know ..
[01:35] <student> mwe: I tried that before.  press e, then go to kernel line and press e, and then type space and then init=/bash/sh and then press b, right?
[01:35] <Delvien> timfrost it will mount in linux fine. but no such luck in vmware
[01:35] <mwe> student: that will boot you into root
[01:35] <sklav> but ifconfig eth0 does it show the card in state where it has no ip?
[01:35] <soundray> Good night friends, see you later.
[01:35] <bain> sklav: yeah .. it did
[01:35] <student> mwe: that didn't work before.  when I got to root, I couldn't use vi or any editor at all to modify the /etc/groups file
[01:35] <mwe> student: wrong
[01:35] <ashyg> mitrovarr: d-link dwl-g122
[01:35] <mwe> student: /bin/sh
[01:35] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  A 64 bit amd like that should be able to run 32 bit OSs without any problems, except maybe a slight loss in speed.  But you'll lose things like NX support and stuff.
[01:35] <mwe> student: not /bash/sh
[01:36] <student> mwe: yea /bin/sh
[01:36] <ashyg> NX?
[01:36] <titanium2> where are DNS servers defined in ubuntu?
[01:36] <mwe> student: and I'd add to the end
[01:36] <student> mwe: I was going from memory....I did this before
[01:36] <ashyg> okay i am downloading the 32 bit version
[01:36] <mwe> student: but that's just me
[01:36] <_jason2> student, just use a livecd, it will be simpler imo
[01:36] <mwe> student: it works
[01:36] <sklav> titanium2, /etc/resolv.conf
[01:36] <student> _jason2: don't have livecd
[01:36] <trinidad> gparted, thanks again
[01:36] <mwe> _jason2: no
[01:36] <gnomefreak> back yw
[01:36] <timfrost> Delvien, I can't assist with that.  I don't play MP3s at all
[01:36] <mwe> _jason2: and yes
[01:36] <_jason2> mwe, lol
[01:37] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[01:37] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:37] <sklav> Delvien, you need libmad from the universe repos
[01:37] <Delvien> timfrost well i just wanted my USB to mount in Vmware.
[01:37] <student> mwe: what is the command again that I type once at root prompt? something administrator admin
[01:37] <Delvien> sklav whats libmad do?
[01:37] <mwe> _jason2: he has to manually mount the ubuntu partition and edit /etc/group by hand carefully to do that
[01:37] <_jason2> student, adduser
[01:37] <sklav> Delvien, it adds mp3 support
[01:37] <_jason2> mwe, you were right with the 'no and yes' :P
[01:37] <Delvien> sklav umm
[01:37] <student> btw I swear there is a bug in adding a new user to the admin group and removing existing one from admin group.  it's happened to me three times like this so far.
[01:37] <sklav> look at the howto unsupported formats
[01:37] <bain> sklav: don't stress about it ... I'm going to bed .. it's 2 in the morning already ..
[01:37] <mwe> student: /usr/sbin/vigr
[01:37] <bain> thanks for the help sklav and mwe
[01:37] <gnomefreak> Delvien, read the link ubotu posted it will give you all the deps for mp3 playing
[01:37] <mwe> student: if it doesn't work
[01:38] <sklav> later bain
[01:38] <bain> nite
[01:38] <Delvien> sklav no no i have mp3 support. i just want to mount my HDD based MP3 player inside of Vmware , but its not recognizing it
[01:38] <student> mwe: /usr/sbin/vigr and that's it?
[01:38] <sklav> ah i see
[01:38] <Mabus06> My ubuntu installation fails during "installing the base system" can anyone help please?
[01:38] <ashyg> does anyone know what ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso is?
[01:38] <sklav> for that im a zero
[01:38] <mwe> student: /bin/nano /etc/group and edit it _carefully_
[01:38] <ashyg> i have it on my hard disk
[01:38] <Delvien> gnomefreak hehe i didnt ask him how to get mp3 playback, i already have that :P
[01:38] <crimsun_> ashyg: it's the preview release of Breezy.
[01:38] <sklav> usb devices are usually automounted
[01:38] <Delvien> gnomefreak my question was about VMWARE
[01:38] <mwe> student: yeah. it should bring up the group file
[01:38] <ramblingturtle> i am still searching for a way to mount my new mp3 player customer support said I have to use windows for this device i told them there is no way I am going back to windows I am using a hp iriver T30 if anyone has any ideas
[01:38] <gnomefreak> sorry thats all i say was mp3 :( Delvien
[01:38] <_jason2> mwe, so he can't just adduser with root?
[01:38] <navarone> mwe> what is vigr btw?
[01:38] <mwe> student: then edit the admin line to contain your user
[01:38] <Delvien> gnomfreak its ok :P
[01:38] <ashyg> crimsun_: is it the same as the real release or should i download the real one?
[01:39] <ramblingturtle> I cant seem to figure out where the device is so that way i can mount it
[01:39] <mwe> _jason2: why'd he do that?
[01:39] <sprizz> okay, im a total noob, but "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5" isn't working
[01:39] <gnomefreak> vmware is evil i hear its hard to get right but i never used it
[01:39] <foresight> I downloaded some themes for Gnome via the synaptic package thingy...but where the heck did they install too ? :p
[01:39] <mwe> _jason2: he already has a user
[01:39] <ramblingturtle> and dmseg is not working for me
[01:39] <crimsun_> ashyg: it's /not/ the final release, however you can install the preview and dist-upgrade to the final
[01:39] <gnomefreak> sprizz, you cant install java that way
[01:39] <ashyg> crimsun_: because our school internet is horribly slow and i want to cut down on my downloading :)
[01:39] <_jason2> mwe, adduser administrator admin, adds him to the admin group
[01:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sprizz about java
[01:39] <student> mwe: brb
[01:39] <Mabus06> My ubuntu installation fails during "installing the base system" can anyone help please?
[01:39] <mwe> navarone: vigr opens /etc/group with $EDITOR and makes sure it's sane before letting you save
[01:39] <Delvien> mabus06 what release ?
[01:39] <mitrovarr> ramblingturtle:  this might help http://lonelymachines.org/iriver.html
[01:40] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, with what error?
[01:40] <Mabus06> breezy, Delvien
[01:40] <mwe> _jason2: wrong
[01:40] <Delvien> mabus06 md5 checksum ok?
[01:40] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, hold on, I'll replicate it (the target computer is beside me)
[01:40] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, is it debootstrapping?
[01:40] <mwe> _jason2: he'd need gpasswd -a administrator admin
[01:40] <Mabus06> Delvien, I installed ubuntu on this computer I'm talking to you on with that cd yesterday.
[01:40] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, pardon?
[01:40] <mitrovarr> ramblingturtle:  It might not be the same version but assuming it uses USB mass storage device protocol some of that might still be valid.
[01:40] <mwe> _jason2: also he needs to type the full path at that prompt
[01:40] <Delvien> mabus06 gnomefreak will be able to help you then
[01:40] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, is it a debootstrapping error?
[01:41] <mwe> _jason2: or source /etc/profile
[01:41] <ramblingturtle> mitrovarr: thank you
[01:41] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, I don't know, I'm trying to install it again. The message should pop up in a moment.
[01:41] <Mabus06> Can I msg you?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, yeah when you get the error
[01:41] <navarone> mabus breezy or dapper?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> breezy navarone
[01:41] <Mabus06> Breezy.
[01:42] <flodine> can someone tell me how to get rxvt transparent
[01:42] <gnomefreak> i have a feeling he either has bad iso or he burned it too fast :)
[01:42] <Mabus06> This install it's attempting right now is just the server though, I wanted to try and see if that would work. But I'll probably get the same error.
[01:42] <crimsun_> flodine: man rxvt . With rxvt-unicode, it's -tr
[01:42] <foresight> I downloaded some themes for Gnome via the synaptic package thingy...but where the heck did they install too ? :p
[01:42] <navarone> just checking...sometimes we go on forever and then realize another version...lol
[01:42] <mitrovarr> ramblingturtle:  If that doesn't work this talks about the T30 specifically http://bys.cauterized.net/?p=177
[01:42] <Mabus06> foresight, things don't install like they do on windows.
[01:42] <gnomefreak> navarone, yeah i know and i had an issue with install on dapper that wasnt the cd or the iso :(
[01:43] <Delvien> timfrost have any experience with having USB drives mount inside VMware
[01:43] <foresight> Mabus06, I just need to find out where the files went... :p
[01:43] <Mabus06> navarone, fair enough, it's always best to give the easiest answer first. l-)
[01:43] <timfrost> Delvien, no.  No USB hardware at all
[01:43] <gnomefreak> foresight, locate <packagename>
[01:43] <Mabus06> foresight, look at the name of the thing you installed. Use 'search for files'.
[01:43] <navarone> answers depend on the right question tho mabus...<s>
[01:44] <Mabus06> navarone, I've had my fair share of ubuntu problems but never this early in the installation, so I'm sort of over my head.
[01:44] <navarone> how many poters you have mabus?
[01:44] <navarone> puters*
[01:44] <Mabus06> In the house right now, 3.
[01:45] <gnomefreak> i miss my other ones :(
[01:45] <Mabus06> Okay here's the error, gnomefreak.
[01:45] <gnomefreak> k
[01:45] <Mabus06> An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system.
[01:45] <Mabus06> Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details.
[01:45] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, do you still have the iso?
[01:45] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, on computer #3, yes
[01:46] <gnomefreak> go to where you downloaded it and match the md5 number sup
[01:46] <flodine> crimsun_ how do i put it in xdefaults to stay trans
[01:46] <navarone> Mabus and you've install via this particualr cd before?
[01:46] <Mabus06> navarone, yes I installed with this CD yesterday I am quite sure.
[01:46] <Mabus06> On the computer I'm talking to you guys with right now.
[01:46] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, that same cd?
[01:46] <Mabus06> I think?
[01:47] <Mabus06> I'll check anyway I suppose... how?
[01:47] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, i would make sure the md5 checks out ok
[01:47] <crimsun_> flodine: you'd use the property for it in ~/.Xresources
[01:47] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, how?
[01:47] <ramblingturtle> i think i need to find another channel my problem is not with ubuntu but instead it is with the iriver thanks everybody for your help
[01:47] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, linux on the pc with iso?
[01:47] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, no
[01:47] <gnomefreak> win?
[01:47] <Mabus06> yeah
[01:48] <gnomefreak> yuck :(
[01:48] <student> mwe: "/usr/sbin/vigr" gets this error "vigr: Couldn't lock file: Read-only  file system vigr: /etc/group is unchanged.  And "/bin/nano /etc/group" get this error "Error writing /etc/group Read-only file system".
[01:48] <Mabus06> Not my computer.
[01:48] <student> mwe: same errors as last time I tried to fix this ubuntu bug.
[01:48] <gnomefreak> you need to get a md5 checker :( i dont remember where :(
[01:48] <Mabus06> I am quite sure the iso is fine.
[01:48] <Mabus06> If it isn't the same cd it is a cd made from the  same image.
[01:49] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, bootstrap errors are normally caused by 1 of 2 things bad iso or bad burn
[01:49] <navarone> student maybe read write permissions for fielsystem is out of whack?
[01:49] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, okay, well I will be back as MabusXP on the other computer in a minute.
[01:49] <student> navarone: I'm booting from init=/bin/sh mode
[01:49] <gnomefreak> ok Mabus06  i might be here
[01:50] <timfrost> gnomefreak, Mabus06, it would be possible to transfer the ISO to the working linuix PC, then use md5sum on ISO and /dev/cdrom
[01:50] <shingoki> what happened to squeak-image ?
[01:50] <james^> guys
[01:50] <james^> how to install *.rpm on my woody
[01:50] <_jason2> gnomefreak, it is a sign
[01:50] <gnomefreak> thinking saying screw it and going with another linuc distro
[01:51] <_jason2> james^, what are you trying to install
[01:51] <sklav> james^,  look into alien
[01:51] <gnomefreak> lol _jasoni think you are right
[01:51] <navarone> sp2?
[01:51] <james^> php-eaccelerator-5.0.4_0.9.3-4.fc4.src.rpm
[01:51] <james^> taht
[01:51] <james^> i'm must intall alien first ?
[01:51] <_jason2> james^, what do you mean when you say woody?
[01:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> woody is a Debian release... o_O
[01:52] <_jason2> yeah
[01:52] <gnomefreak> he said FC4
[01:52] <james^> yeah
[01:52] <gnomefreak> #fedora
[01:52] <_jason2> james^, you know this is #ubuntu though, right?
[01:53] <sklav> james^, just do a rpm -ivh pakagename.rpm
[01:53] <sklav> and you should join #fedora
[01:53] <sklav> they might be of more assistance
[01:53] <james^> and how to use alien with php-eaccelerator-5.0.4_0.9.3-4.fc4.src.rpm ?
[01:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !alien
[01:53] <sklav> james^, src.rpm?
[01:53] <ubotu> somebody said alien was a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:53] <student> screw it I'm reinstalling again
[01:53] <myriad> i am getting ready to install ubuntu...   i have the cd burned, do i just set to boot from the cd in bios?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> james^, this is not FC channel
[01:54] <sklav> james^, you cannot install asrc.rpm
[01:54] <_jason2> student, just use the livecd...
[01:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> myriad: yeah
[01:54] <james^> woot
[01:54] <student> _jason2: I don't have one
[01:54] <sklav> you need to rpmbuild --rebuild php-eaccelerator-5.0.4_0.9.3-4.fc4.src.rpm
[01:54] <james^> can't ?
[01:54] <_jason2> student, you can't burn a temp one on a cd-rw?
[01:54] <sklav> james^, its not even compiled
[01:54] <sklav> im not sure what alien will do for you
[01:54] <myriad> ok, also...   i need to turn some free space on an NTFS partition into a new partition...  will the ubuntu installation allow me to do that?
[01:54] <james^> to install it
[01:55] <student> _jason2: I'm at the school now, I'd have to go home.  plus I don't have a spare cd-rw and don't want to go to the store and buy one cause I'm poor and it's probably not even open right now anyway
[01:55] <gnomefreak> !alien
[01:55] <ubotu> somebody said alien was a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:55] <james^> i'm get from that site
[01:55] <navarone> myriad yes...but make sure you defrag windows first to be safe
[01:55] <_jason2> student, okay understandable
[01:55] <myriad> defrag that partition?
[01:55] <james^> http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/2316322/com/php-eaccelerator-5.0.4_0.9.3-4.fc4.i386.rpm.html
[01:55] <james^> take to my box with woody
[01:55] <james^> and wanna install it
[01:55] <gnomefreak> james are you on ubuntu or woody?
[01:55] <james^> i can't build my self so i get rpm one
[01:55] <navarone> defrag the windows partition so that when you resize no windows data is left straggling on the new linux partition
[01:55] <sklav> james^, have you checked for a .deb?
[01:55] <james^> woody
[01:56] <_jason2> student, I don't think you are supposed to but you did try using sudo on vigr right?
[01:56] <james^> there is no .deb packaget
[01:56] <james^> woody chn empty
[01:56] <student> I JUST REPRODUCED THE BUG ON ANOTHER FRESH INSTALL
[01:56] <gnomefreak> #debian  is the channel that might beable to help more
[01:56] <myriad> ok thank you
[01:56] <sklav> then use the rpm not the src.rpm
[01:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> james^: join #debian
[01:56] <sklav> and use alien to convert it
[01:56] <student> this is a bug
[01:56] <student> arghhh!!!!
[01:56] <navarone> student then report it
[01:56] <_jason2> student, okay report it to bugzilla
[01:56] <shingoki> Anyone know why there is no squeak image package?
[01:56] <james^> thanks
[01:56] <sklav> student, is you video card an ati?
[01:57] <MabusXP> gnomefreak, back
[01:57] <ramblingturtle> ok now i am getting unknown id mount message when trying to mount a device does this mean it cant be mount
[01:57] <gnomefreak> wb im almost gone too :(
[01:58] <student> 1) fresh install, create user student 2) add new user administrator with admin rights 3) log on as administrator 4) open users/groups again and remove admin rights for original student user 4) log off administrator and log on as student 5) bam.  administrator suddenly is not a member of admin group!
[01:58] <_jason2> student, actually a quick search found it was already reported.  here is one: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21765
[01:58] <ramblingturtle> it is really unkown id: mount
[01:58] <liquidboy> anyone have experience with windowmaker?
[01:58] <ramblingturtle> what does this mean i wonder
[01:59] <sklav> student, why not create the administartor first and add student when the install completes?
[01:59] <student> _jason2: oh it's because I chose the name "administrator"??? If I had chosen "schmoo" it would have worked?
[01:59] <hawking> I have installed pan what should i write in the news server?
[01:59] <student> sklav: yea I thought of that afterwards....but these system will be used mostly by students so that's why I did it first like that?
[01:59] <_jason2> student, no, I don't think taht's what I read but I'll check
[01:59] <sklav> ramblingturtle, specify the filesystem type example mount -t ext3 /dev/device /mnt
[01:59] <Esuirin> hi
[01:59] <Esuirin> can someone tell me what command ubuntu executes for fn sleep
[01:59] <Esuirin> f2 i think it is?
[01:59] <navarone> shingoki squeak image maybe available in another repo like multiverse...I will search
[02:00] <MabusXP2> So how do I verify that my ISO is fine?
[02:00] <shingoki> I had a look but I can't find it
[02:00] <sklav> use the md5sum
[02:00] <gnomefreak> if in windows you need to look for a tool unless someone can tell you how to transfer it to linux box
[02:00] <liquidboy> to compile appications (eg docapps from docapps.org) i just have to install gcc and follow the instructions given eh?
[02:00] <hawking> can someone recommend me a free usenet server please?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> sklav, hes on win he cant run that
[02:00] <Esuirin> what command does ubuntu execute when you do fn-f4?
[02:00] <sklav> sorry
[02:01] <navarone> hmmm...shingoki there is squeak-sources and squeak-vm   no idea if they are what you are looking for
[02:01] <gnomefreak> no dont be
[02:01] <sklav> there are tools for windows
[02:01] <gnomefreak> i know i cant remember names of them tho :(
[02:01] <sklav> and if your using nero i think it has some feature for it
[02:01] <wckdkl0wn> how would i install this file?? install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[02:01] <simak> Esuirin, you might run gconf-editor
[02:01] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell wckdkl0wn about tar.gz
[02:01] <wckdkl0wn> arg
[02:01] <wckdkl0wn> and yet again
[02:01] <MabusXP3> So how do I find out if my ISO for installing ubuntu is fine?
[02:01] <timfrost> !flash
[02:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:02] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell wckdkl0wn about compile
[02:02] <sklav> wckdkl0wn, enable the universe and multiver and then run apt-get update and then apt-get flash-nonfree
[02:02] <veriz> do anyone know how i can write into /etc/motd with colors?
[02:02] <navarone> hawking  google Freebin
[02:02] <shingoki> navarone, they are two parts of squeak, the other part is squeak image :)
[02:02] <wckdkl0wn> sklav, ty atleast u gave me a straight answer
[02:02] <Esuirin> simak, uhhh
[02:02] <Esuirin> this isn't a gtk function
[02:02] <Esuirin> it does some kind of system sleep
[02:02] <navarone> shingoki...maybe the squeak-sources is what you need and then have to compile?
[02:03] <simak> Esuirin, it's a way of tinkering with gnome.  It has a key-map thing in it.
[02:03] <gnomefreak> <<could have sat here and told him what to do to compile it but wed be offtopic and here all night :(
[02:03] <sklav> ! ubotu tell wckdkl0wn about universe
[02:03] <ubotu> I don't know, sklav
[02:03] <Esuirin> i know what it is, but this particular function issues suspend to ram or something?
[02:03] <sklav> !universe
[02:03] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:03] <simak> Esuirin, I just started using it but it should tell you what that key was supposed to be.
[02:03] <shingoki> navarone, well the squeak packages mention squaek-image, but it isn't there
[02:03] <sklav> wckdkl0wn, follwo the instruction there to get it up and running
[02:03] <Esuirin> simak, fn-fnx is acpi stuff
[02:04] <wckdkl0wn> sklav, see this is why i hate it when ppl try to redirect u to other shit before knowing whats going on... i already have the repositories set
[02:04] <dooglus> can I put a border between the cells in a Gtk::Table?
[02:04] <sklav> wckdkl0wn, if you set them up in /etc/apt/sources.lst for some reason it does not work
[02:04] <dooglus> uh - wrong channel :)
[02:04] <simak> Esuirin, now I've learned something.  oops.
[02:04] <sklav> im refering you there to use the graphical approach which works
[02:04] <MabusXP3> gnomefreak, navarone, I'm runnning a md5 checker now.
[02:04] <navarone> shingoki I found this site with list of dl sites for various distros/os's...but I cannot find a ubuntu squeak image...take a look and maybe a standard debian would suffice http://linux.maruhn.com/sec/squeak.html
[02:05] <gnomefreak> ok way too many mabus' in here :(
[02:05] <sprizz> having trouble with jre firefox plugin
[02:05] <sprizz> i created a symlink
[02:05] <sprizz> still no go?
[02:06] <wckdkl0wn> sklav, sry i got u confused with the other guy my bad
[02:06] <navarone> yeah four mabus's is disconcerting
[02:06] <sklav> its ok
[02:06] <wckdkl0wn> sklav, but its flashplugin-nonfree
[02:06] <demonstar> anyone want to help me with networking?
[02:06] <shingoki> navarone, yup I saw that but I hate using random packages :( thanks though
[02:06] <gnomefreak> sprizz, sudo update-alternatives --config java     and choose what version you want to use than run java -version to make sure
[02:06] <sklav> wckdkl0wn, most likely i was going from memory
[02:06] <nomin> is there a way to skip the login at the beginning?  I want ubuntu to automatically login at startup.
[02:06] <navarone> shingoki yeah would not recommend it either
[02:07] <sklav> since i had the same issue a while back with my repos for some odd reason
[02:07] <sprizz> gnomefreak: k, i'll give it a try
[02:07] <shingoki> navarone, ah well thanks anyway :)
[02:08] <sklav> wckdkl0wn, its cool but keep in mind there are hundred of people asking qurestions and most of the time the referals offer graphical step threws
[02:08] <sklav> which are more helpfull than me saying for example open synaptic click on prefs and so on
[02:08] <Mabus07> >.< the wireless net for this comp is giving me troubles
[02:08] <gnomefreak> wckdkl0wn, i gave you those links because you came in asking how to install a tar.gz
[02:08] <Mabus07> gnomefreak, navarone, I am burning a new cd with the verified MD5 iso
[02:09] <sklav> Mabus07, burn it at 12x max
[02:09] <gnomefreak> Mabus07, at 8 if you can :)
[02:09] <sklav> i have noticed issues with some drives at faster speeds
[02:09] <sprizz> gnomefreak: now what, i checked the version...
[02:09] <gnomefreak> and is it the version you want ubuntu to use?
[02:09] <Mabus07> breezy yeah
[02:10] <Mabus07> and I'm using 8
[02:10] <sprizz> i dont know
[02:10] <Mabus07> the minimum allowed
[02:10] <gnomefreak> sprizz, what java did you install?
[02:10] <sklav> ok i need to get off the pc hell i support 400+ users all day i need a break
[02:10] <sprizz> lemme check
[02:10] <sklav> last i checked i have a wife ;)
[02:10] <sprizz> i think 1.5
[02:10] <sklav> hehe
[02:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol sklav
[02:10] <gnomefreak> sprizz, when you run java -version   what does it say its using?
[02:10] <sprizz> 1.0.4
[02:11] <sklav> later all
[02:11] <sprizz> no
[02:11] <sprizz> 1.4
[02:11] <sklav> later PuMpErNiCkLe
[02:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> peace out sklav
[02:11] <sprizz> 1.4.2
[02:11] <sklav> later Seveas  gnomefreak
[02:11] <gnomefreak> ok sprizz type sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:11] <Mabus07> make up your mind, sprizz
[02:11] <Mabus07> lol
[02:11] <atbt> whatever that ipod-ulator is that comes with ubuntu is, doesn't seem to work with my ipod shuffle =\
[02:11] <gnomefreak> later sklav
[02:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> brb, ice cream
[02:11] <gnomefreak> sprizz, after that command do you see 1.5 in that list anywhere?
[02:12] <navarone> shingoki try this if you haven't already http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/3616 <-- there is another link on page that takes you tyo another page with more dl's if you need
[02:12] <sprizz> nope
[02:12] <gnomefreak> sprizz, if installed it should be the 3rd choice
[02:12] <atbt> can anyone help me with using my ipod shuffle with ubuntu?
[02:12] <jeff342> hi guys
[02:12] <jeff342> im getting 100% packet loss with my wlan
[02:12] <sprizz> nope, no third........i installed it
[02:12] <gnomefreak> sprizz, either its not install properly of fully
[02:13] <Mabus08> Sorry, admins, for the excessive ammount of my clones in here, I keep disconnecting and the clones stay.
[02:13] <sprizz> dang it, i just cmod +x the binary, then ran it, shouldn't that install it
[02:13] <Mabus08> I assume you mean 'chmod'
[02:13] <gnomefreak> sprizz, chmod isnt a run command
[02:14] <sprizz> I KNOW
[02:14] <gnomefreak> oh ok good
[02:14] <sprizz> i changed the binary to executable, then ran it
[02:14] <gnomefreak> sprizz, did you accept the agreement blah blah blah?
[02:14] <jeff342> no wlan gurus in here?
[02:14] <ElBarono> jeff: whats the problem?
[02:15] <sprizz> yess
[02:15] <timfrost> gnomefreak, if sprizz didn't use make-jpackage, then update-alternatives *won't* work
[02:15] <jeff342> EIBorono: im getting 100% packet loss on my kubuntu laptop
[02:15] <sprizz> hmm
[02:15] <gnomefreak> timfrost, isnt that compiling it from tar?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> from sun anyway
[02:16] <timfrost> gnomefreak, no.  make-japackage will process the .run file that sprizz has, creating a .deb
[02:16] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhh
[02:16] <jeff342> EIBorono: network manager says im connected to my home network
[02:16] <timfrost> !java
[02:16] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:17] <atbt> i need some ipod shuffle + ubuntu help
[02:17] <gnomefreak> timfrost, i gave him that a while ago :)
[02:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell atbt about ipod
[02:17] <kar> hey, anyone around
[02:17] <atbt> ah, thank you gnomefreak
[02:18] <gnomefreak> yw atbt
[02:18] <kar> alright .. i c activity :)
[02:18] <jeff342> EIBorono: anybody
[02:18] <gnomefreak> follow it and it will work :)
[02:18] <kar> I am admining a lab with a bunch of machines
[02:18] <kar> and was wondering if there are easier ways of admining multiple machines
[02:18] <kar> than going to each one and doing the same thing
[02:18] <gnomefreak> ok all im out see yaaaaaaaaaa
[02:18] <Mabus01> gnomefreak, navarone, the new cd is burned
[02:19] <kar> Im setting the machines up .. need to add about 50 users on each machine etc
[02:19] <kar> anybody have any ideas?
[02:19] <navarone> kar> all machines are set up for the same users?
[02:20] <kar> navarone: yes .. all machines need same setup
[02:20] <nekostar> is all the hardware the same?
[02:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> kar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directory_service
[02:20] <kar> nekostar: I think so
[02:20] <nekostar> navarone, couldnt he do a fully set up install in one and clone it to the rest?
[02:20] <nekostar> just untar the install?
[02:20] <kar> PuMpErNiCkLe: I know about NIS, but that seems like an overkill for eight machines .. am i wrong?
[02:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> kar: If it's all the same, then you can do what nekostart just beat to telling you about.
[02:20] <nekostar> [manually set up grub etc]
[02:21] <nekostar> o:
[02:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> kar: Not once you've got them installed and running... it should save time.
[02:21] <Goldfisch> Does dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb work for cloning an entire disk drive?
[02:21] <sprizz> chmod +x *.bin
[02:21] <sprizz> msprauer@ubuntu:$ ls
[02:21] <sprizz> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[02:21] <sprizz> msprauer@ubuntu:$
[02:21] <sprizz> msprauer@ubuntu:$
[02:21] <sprizz> msprauer@ubuntu:$
[02:21] <sprizz> msprauer@ubuntu:$ sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common
[02:21] <sprizz> Reading package lists... Done
[02:21] <sprizz> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:21] <sprizz> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[02:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Goldfisch: yeah, if they're the same size
[02:21] <sprizz> msprauer@ubuntu:$
[02:21] <nekostar> btw for yall ubuntu guru's : http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/pressrelease.php?id=1445 is happening in los angeles area and i would love to get a ubuntu rep to come
[02:21] <nekostar> sprizz,
[02:21] <timfrost> Goldfisch, only if theya are identical geometry
[02:21] <nekostar> dont spam here
[02:22] <nekostar> thats in #flood or:
[02:22] <nekostar> !paste
[02:22] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:22] <Goldfisch> !tell sprizz about pastebin
[02:22] <sprizz> EAT IT UBUNTU
[02:22] <nekostar> sprizz, also
[02:22] <nekostar> eh lmfao
[02:22] <nekostar> was just gonna tell him about universe etc
[02:24] <navarone> nekostar I was thinking that...but I think all machines would have to use same components...?
[02:24] <Nihil85> hi! i've forgotten how to enter in a specific folder using the shell... can anyone suggest me the right command? :P
[02:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Nihil85: cd /path/to/folder
[02:24] <nekostar> navarone, yeah he said that they should have the same hardware...
[02:24] <Nihil85> cd! like DOS...
[02:24] <Nihil85> thanks PuMpErNiCkLe!
[02:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Nihil85: np :)
[02:24] <Mabus06> navarone, I'm now installing on the target computer with the newly made disc from the verified breezy install i386 iso
[02:24] <Goldfisch> Nihil85: No DOS, like UNIX. :)
[02:24] <nekostar> Nihil85,  though
[02:24] <nekostar> cd .. to go upwards.. notice the space
[02:25] <Mabus06> navarone, should I do expert or server, or just stick with a regular install? To encounter less problems or find out what they are best.
[02:25] <Nihil85> Goldfisch, i remember that when i was young and i entered some commands in DOS, i used to type cd Programs/etc
[02:25] <Munchkinguy> I remember with Corel Linux, I could install it into a folder in my Windows partition and make a boot disk. Then I could run Linux without formatting my computer.
[02:25] <Munchkinguy> I realize that Ubuntu has Live CDs, but is there also an option for what I just described?
[02:25] <navarone> Mabus...if you anticipate problems do a server install first and then add gnome/kde or what have you later
[02:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Munchkinguy: only if you're using FAT32 instead of ntfs.
[02:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> linux has issues with ntfs
[02:26] <Munchkinguy> Thank you.
[02:26] <Mabus06> navarone, ok. If this doesn't work, are there any install options you can think of that may debug the problem?
[02:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Munchkinguy: And I don't know th...
[02:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dammit
[02:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> I wasn't done!
[02:27] <Mabus06> lol
[02:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> oh well
[02:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> He'll be back. :>
[02:27] <navarone> Mabus to be honest I have not personally had enough problems with ubuntu to offer any advice. I just needed the vidcard and mouse sorted when I installed
[02:28] <Mabus06> navarone, same with my first attempt at installation, it was a video issue. But I have not seen errors this early in the process before.
[02:28] <navarone> Mabus I would just fire it up and see if it works...no harm done if it goes belly up...except for some time wasted
[02:28] <Mabus06> navarone, tha'ts what I'm doing.
[02:29] <Mabus06> The other computer is next to me.
[02:29] <navarone> any probs yet?
[02:29] <Mabus06> No but I haven't gotten to the problematic stage yet anyway.
[02:29] <Mabus06> Okay installing the base system now... this is where it generally buggs up.
[02:30] <navarone> yes yes the problematic stage...like puberty but with less anxiety...:)
[02:30] <Mabus06> lol
[02:30] <Mabus06> looking good so far, not stalling at 6% like it did before
[02:30] <navarone> new cd?
[02:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It'll stall at 13% ^_^
[02:31] <Mabus06> yes, navarone
[02:31] <Mabus06> verified the md5 before burning it.. burned it at 8x
[02:31] <navarone> I remmebr a Mandrake install stalling at about 40% everytime...some ramdisk prob...<sigh @ olden days>
[02:32] <Mabus06> Could it be borked hardware? Or would I not have gotten this far if say, the CPU didn't work?
[02:32] <navarone> Mabus I would think it was the cd personally
[02:32] <ozgurgerilla> how do I delete search engines in firefox?
[02:33] <Mabus06> Well the same computer had troubles installing windows (illegal copies, granted)
[02:33] <navarone> And I always burn at 8x...gnomebaker complains that hardware can't keep up with maximum speed if I try it...lol
[02:33] <Mabus06> nearing where it failed before...
[02:33] <Mabus06> let's cross our fingers
[02:34] <Mabus06> w00t into the 70's now, never got this far before
[02:34] <sepht> can anyone help me w/ my apache2 install?
[02:34] <Mabus06> Well once when I ignored the error and continued, but then I was getting all kinds of errors.
[02:35] <Amaranth> Mabus06: sounds like a bad disc or bad ram
[02:35] <Mabus06> Amaranth, this try is with a new disc.
[02:35] <Mabus06> Isn't there some sort of memtest thing to see if my ram works later?
[02:35] <sepht> Can ANYONE help me w/ my apache2 issue? or is the ubuntu community completely helpless when it's anything more then general ignorance
[02:35] <nbound> what packages do i need to download after i install totem-xine to gte movies playing properly??? ive just reinstalled and forgot i think ffmpeg is one
[02:35] <Mabus06> sepht, that's a bad way to ask for help
[02:36] <Mabus06> secondly, when I was having apache troubles I went to #apache
[02:36] <Mabus06> Seems logical huh?
[02:36] <Blacken> ...It's not wise to look a gift CD-giver in the mouth, but has anyone else had problems with shoddy Ubuntu media?
[02:36] <sepht> Mabus06: not an apache issue
[02:36] <navarone> ozgurgerilla, try going to Firefox in home folder and then Searchplugins folder...I think you can simply delete the .src file and the .gif for each search engine you want to get rid of
[02:36] <Blacken> My first install CD was corrupted, the second wouldn't even boot, and the third snapped on the bloody spindle.
[02:36] <navarone> ozgurgerilla, then restart firefox if needed
[02:37] <ozgurgerilla> ok, thanks
[02:37] <Mabus06> sepht, oooo, I hate that. When it's sort of an issue between two things... #ubuntu will tell you to see #apache, and vice versa.
[02:37] <nbound> what packages do i need to download after i install totem-xine to gte movies playing properly??? ive just reinstalled and forgot i think ffmpeg is one, anyone?
[02:37] <nbound> get*
[02:37] <Mabus06> What sort of movies nbound
[02:37] <nbound> just plain mpegs
[02:37] <sepht> Mabus06: no no
[02:38] <sepht> it's a ubuntu issue
[02:38] <nbound> i get picture but no sound :(
[02:38] <sepht> by the way it handles apache and php's installs
[02:38] <sepht> here
[02:38] <sepht> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116477
[02:38] <Mabus06> nbound, did you install everything on;
[02:38] <Mabus06> !restricted
[02:38] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:39] <Mabus06> navarone, this install seems to be working, the first stage is complete
[02:39] <nbound> i cant... im running x86_64
[02:39] <Mabus06> nbound, never used that, sorry
[02:39] <somerville32> Is there any god IDEs for Java in Linux that is small and light-weight
[02:39] <Mabus06> and sepht you seem to already know more about your problem than I do so I can't help ya.
[02:39] <nbound> i know theres just one package i need... coz i had movies running before :(
[02:39] <navarone> Mabus06,  "8x" <-- haste makes waste...  ;)
[02:40] <sepht> Mabus06: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116477 I tell you!
[02:41] <Blacken> Any other bad-CD experiences with Ubuntu installers? My first one was corrupt, the second just didn't boot, and the third broke...and now I'm stuck with half a system 'cause my DOS boot disk is half a town away.
[02:41] <Mabus06> navarone, but I was quite sure that was the cd I used to install ubuntu on this machine
[02:41] <LordMelkor> when i try to install a driver update for my intel grafx card (from dri.freedesktop.org) i get the error: Makefile:166: *** Cannot find a kernel config file.  Stop.
[02:41] <LordMelkor> can anyone help me out?
[02:42] <navarone> duende...how's she goin? <s>
[02:42] <duende> hi
[02:42] <navarone> <-- originally from nfld too
[02:43] <Mabus06> Sweet navarone.
[02:43] <Mabus06> I'm the first in my family born off the rock.
[02:43] <navarone> lol
[02:43] <navarone> Mabus...we are everywhere
[02:43] <Mabus06> navarone, so how hard is it to install gnome et al.?
[02:43] <duende> small world
[02:43] <student> hi
[02:44] <navarone> Mabus I think simply sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[02:44] <timfrost> LordMelkor, the config for the kernels is in /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[02:44] <_jason> Mabus06, ubuntu-desktop, not gnome-desktop
[02:44] <navarone> ahh...right...and kubunut-desktop for kde
[02:45] <student> hi
[02:45] <student> care to chat?
[02:45] <student> hello
[02:45] <student> hello]
[02:45] <student> hello
[02:45] <student> any one care to chat?
[02:45] <_jason> student, stop, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[02:45] <student> hi jason
[02:45] <navarone> student this isn't a chatty chat room
[02:45] <student> ok
[02:45] <LordMelkor> timfrost how do i make it recognize the alternate directory for the config file
[02:45] <hawking> Does pan save the stuff it downloads somewhere or does it delete them after exiting?
[02:46] <student> how to make a web page
[02:46] <crimsun_> hawking: ~/News/Pan/
[02:46] <navarone> hawking...it saves binaries and articles in News/Pan folder in home directory
[02:46] <Orborde> What program do I want to be able to view .dia files?
[02:46] <hawking> thx
[02:46] <timfrost> LordMelkor, there must be a variable  in the Makefile that you can set to the correct file name.
[02:46] <nbound> anyone else in here running x86_64?
[02:47] <Hendikins|Work> I'm running x86_64, but not Ubuntu on it
[02:47] <jariep1_> hello all
[02:47] <jariep1_> I have kubuntu DVD which has live dvd
[02:47] <nbound> okay, anyone running x86_64 ubuntu?
[02:47] <bimberi> Orborde: it could be be "dia" itself - it's a "Diagram editor"
[02:47] <navarone> Orborde...not 100% sure but maybe one of the Open Office suite progs will
[02:47] <yaaar> !seveas
[02:47] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:47] <Hendikins|Work> Is the question ubuntu-specific?
[02:48] <jariep1_> there is an option for install that says : linux vga-771
[02:48] <jariep1_> how do i type this boot parameter for the live dvd?
[02:48] <Blippe> yaaar, that page doesn't mention the gpg key you need
[02:48] <yaaar> hey...anybody have access to change ubotu's answers?
[02:48] <_jason> yaaar, why
[02:48] <yaaar> Blippe: i actually already have that
[02:48] <nbound> jariep1_, kubuntu vga=771
[02:48] <bob832> hi there....are there any free partition recovery programs for linux that would recover a drive writen in nfts?
[02:48] <nbound> or similar
[02:48] <jariep1_> ok
[02:48] <jariep1_> thanks
[02:48] <yaaar> _jason: to add an http:// on the url there so it'll be clickable
[02:49] <jariep1_> thanks rbound
[02:49] <michael> what's a good memory scanner program?
[02:49] <jean> i cant quit eye of gnome in fullscreen mode, is there a way to do so on a terminal?
[02:49] <Blippe> yaaar, while you'ra at it, put in a link to a page with the gpg!
[02:49] <_jason> !seveas
[02:49] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:49] <yaaar> Blippe: will do
[02:49] <_jason> ubotu, tell yaaar about yourself
[02:49] <michael> I tried using wine to run a windows prog, but it won't read the memory
[02:50] <yaaar> _jason: so in other words, with adequate command of the syntax *I* can change it?
[02:50] <jean> like sudo killall eyeofgnome, i tried that and didnt help, i was just guessing
[02:50] <_jason> yaaar, yes
[02:50] <yaaar> neat
[02:50] <jariep1_> rbound, i get a could not find kernel image error message
[02:50] <spiette> anyone here got this libgl1-mesa-dev problem? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81806
[02:50] <Mabus06> navarone, you still around
[02:50] <jdier> how does one uncompress a rar file from the command line?
[02:51] <navarone> yeah
[02:51] <Mabus06> navarone, in order to install packages and whatnot I'll need the internet working
[02:51] <Mabus06> so can you help me to get my wireless setup?
[02:51] <navarone> No internet access?
[02:51] <_jason> jdier, install unrar-nonfree from multiverse, the command to extract is 'unrar x /path/to/rar'
[02:51] <Mabus06> It's my friends computer.
[02:51] <McJerry> !topic
[02:51] <myriad> hi.  i just finished installing ubuntu.  however, when it asked me to select the possible resolutions, i selected resolutions that are too high, and now when i boot into ubuntu my monitor gives a message "out of scan range".  how can i go back and deselect the too-high resolutions?
[02:51] <Mabus06> Which luckily enough has the same wireless card as this one so I can just connect to my router.
[02:52] <navarone> I know nada about wireless...I haven't even seen the entire Pinochio film
[02:52] <jean> mh, aay one? how can i quit eyeofgnome in a terminal
[02:52] <nbound> jariep1_, well what are u meant to type normally to get into kubuntu
[02:52] <Mabus06> But I've never done it without a GUI
[02:52] <jdier> _jason - apt-get install unrar-nonfree?
[02:52] <Mabus06> Is ndiswrapper not on the server install? That's stupid
[02:52] <jariep1_> rbound, i just click enter key and livecd boots
[02:52] <_jason> jdier, yes, should do it if you've enabled multiverse
[02:52] <bimberi> myriad: ctrl-alt-f1, log in, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:52] <Lennox> !hd slave
[02:52] <ubotu> Lennox: Not a clue
[02:52] <Lennox> !slave
[02:52] <ubotu> Lennox: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:53] <bimberi> ekr
[02:53] <jariep1_> rbound, i tried to just type in vga=771
[02:53] <jariep1_> but no go
[02:53] <myriad> when do i hit ctrl-alt-f1?
[02:53] <nbound> jariep1_, ummm check the help and shit (use F<number> keys)
[02:53] <jdier> myriad - when you are running windows!
[02:54] <bimberi> myriad: when you feel that ubuntu has fully booted
[02:54] <Lennox> How do I setup a slave hard drive?
[02:54] <navarone> Mabus06, I gotta get to bed...TGTIF...<s> good luck
[02:54] <jariep1_> rbound, i did, but the boot parameters seem to be for hard disk install
[02:54] <Mabus06> thanks for your help navarone
[02:54] <navarone> no prob
[02:54] <jean> i cant quit eye of gnome in fullscreen mode, is there a way to do so on a terminal?
[02:54] <Mabus06> later