[03:31] <Clinteger> stlsaint, next time, ask "how do I add my user account to the sudoers file?"
[03:32] <mlissner> musikgoat: OK, maybe I should rephrase. By work logically as one drive, I want big files to get split across the drives. That's possible, right?
[03:32] <linux> !sudoers | stlsaint
[03:32] <stlsaint> thanks i will try right now
[03:32] <koolkat> whats that networking called that's done over the internet?
[03:32] <Ghoti> PSiL0: could you pastebin your script?
[03:32] <musikgoat> mlissner: only via raid
[03:32] <ToStItOs> !external modem
[03:32] <Ghoti> PSiL0: that way we can see where to add the °C
[03:32] <mlissner> musikgoat: and that means reinstalling?
[03:32] <autotec> ubuntu tip 1:  no better theme than original and I learn that some pixmaps themes can have memory leaks, don't ask me how.
[03:32] <mazda01_> stlsaint: vi sudoers
[03:32] <linux> Clinteger: its mostly accidental (theres no stopping or slowing a paste once commenced)
[03:33] <g-loc> yo check dis out
[03:33] <musikgoat> mlissner: that would mean spanning the two volumes, which requires a fresh file system, so yes
[03:33] <g-loc> i was takin a shit
[03:33] <g-loc> and like
[03:33] <mazda01_> stlsaint: vi /etc/sudoers
[03:33] <Ghoti> !language | g-loc
[03:33] <mazda01_> g-loc: langauge please
[03:33] <mlissner> musikgoat: bleh. OK, well thanks for being the bearer of useful (but bad) news. Back to the drawing board.
[03:33] <PSiL0> Ghoti: sure thing...
[03:33] <g-loc> i shot poop thru the floor
[03:33] <shamm> mlissner: you would lose saved files on those drives.
[03:33] <stlsaint> how do i add my user account to the subdoers file?
[03:33] <autotec> ubuntu tip 2:  if LTS is working and no problems, no need to upgrade and create problems.
[03:34] <g-loc> like i cant believe it
[03:34] <Ghoti> stlsaint: use visudoers, the sudoers file has examples to follow.
[03:34] <musikgoat> stlsaint: you have to have root privileges, eg another account that has those privileges
[03:34] <g-loc> also how do i linux
[03:34] <koolkat> g-loc: you have to learn how to count first
[03:34] <Ghoti> g-loc: 'linux' is a noun, not a verb.
[03:35] <mazda01_> autotec: forget LTS, it's bleeding edge or no edge at all. ha ha ha
[03:35] <stlsaint> so i have to create another account to add my main account?
[03:35] <Qu4R0w> how to connect to wireless using command line in terminal?
[03:35] <g-loc> i cant numbers
[03:35] <ToStItOs> How is a external dial up modem set up with Gnome ppp
[03:35] <stlsaint> what command will i use to add my main account after i create my other account
[03:35] <Ghoti> stlsaint: your 'main' account should already have sudo privileges.
[03:35] <linux> Qu4R0w: man iwconfig
[03:35] <autotec> mazda01_: screw that, if i want bleeding edge i would use fedora :(
[03:35] <musikgoat> stlsaint: you can try adding your account to the admin group
[03:35] <stlsaint> musikgoat...how?
[03:35] <Ghoti> autotec: not Gentoo? ;)
[03:35] <Qu4R0w> linux: nice ^^
[03:35] <donavan_> well I upgraded to the new ATI drivers it killed my X session and locked my computer but a hard reset fixed that ... now I am up and running with the new drivers and they are working beautifully no more flashing 3d grpahics
[03:36] <autotec> mazda01_: you like fedora if you like upgrade every 6 months and start all over again.
[03:36] <musikgoat> stlsaint: system -> admin -> users and groups
[03:36] <maco> Qu4R0w: first stop network manager ("sudo service NetworkManager stop") then "sudo iwconfig <interface> essid 'linksys'" replacing linksys with your AP and <interface> with whatever "iwconfig" says is your wireless interface
[03:36] <Ghoti> stlsaint: do you see admin when you  run 'groups' at a terminal?
[03:36] <mazda01_> linux: when I ran that command it said it would install teh binary in /usr/bin/bin   so i am re-running teh command with just --prefix=/usr
[03:36] <musikgoat> stlsaint: then unlock
[03:36] <autotec> Ghoti: Gentoo!!  hey, i don't have 2 days to install this thing;)
[03:36] <linux> mazda01: ok, if you have troubles, re-extract the tar and try it
[03:36] <maco> Qu4R0w: if you need wep, iwconfig's manpage will explain. if you need wpa, i can explain that one
[03:36] <mazda01_> autotec: no, i like ubuntu which releases a new version every 6 moths
[03:36] <Ghoti> autotec: it installs a lot faster these days ;)
[03:36] <Qu4R0w> maco: tq..really tq
[03:36] <foobarbecue> Hi. I'm having trouble mounting a filesystem to /dev/loop0 using losetup. Trying to follow instructions at http://tinyurl.com/my25eh . However, I get "/dev/loop0 does not exist". Do I have to create it first?? If so, what do I make it, a blank text file?
[03:36] <mazda01_> moths=months
[03:36] <PSiL0> Ghoti: http://pastebin.com/d6d621851
[03:36] <stlsaint> groups in termainal gives me... stlsaint vboxusers
[03:36] <timitheos> ok
[03:37] <ToStItOs> How do I set up my internet connection with the external modem and gnome ppp
[03:37] <zmdwjx1981> all speaking in english ?
[03:37] <foobarbecue> hai, so desu yo
[03:37] <autotec> Ghoti:  last time i try gentoo, half me stuff don't work at all and i hate compile modules and kernel.
[03:37] <musikgoat> stlsaint: after you unlock (and enter your password), you should select your account, and click properties
[03:37] <mazda01_> zmdwjx1981: english is good
[03:37] <linux> ToStIt0s: is it a parallel, serial, bluetooth, or usb external modem?
[03:37] <gartral> linux: both. whent started from the terminal, give multiple
[03:37] <ToStItOs> linux: serial
[03:38] <stlsaint> users and groups says i dont have permission to access
[03:38] <mazda01_> foobarbecue: it probably needs to be a dir. so it would sudo mkdir
[03:38] <gartral> linux: Could not stat device /dev/sdb - No such file or directory. errors
[03:38] <musikgoat> stlsaint: hmm, then you are in trouble
[03:38] <autotec> Ghoti:  hey like a browser war, latest greatest chromium or whatever, but why bother when firefox simply works great.
[03:38] <PSiL0> Ghoti: As you and everyone else can see, I would like to add a degree C at the end of the line (http://pastebin.com/d6d621851)
[03:38] <ToStItOs> does my pc automatically detect it when I power the modem up
[03:38] <linux> gartra: you mounted it?
[03:38] <linux> TostIt0s: sorry, i only have experience with bluetooth modems
[03:38] <Ghoti> PSiL0: try the command I added to the bottom:  http://pastebin.com/m565f7b51
[03:38] <ToStItOs> ah ok
[03:38] <stlsaint> lol...that sucks
[03:39] <ToStItOs> np linux
[03:39] <stlsaint> any advice?
[03:39] <gartral> linux: yes, but it mysteriously unmounts itself before the write
[03:39] <zmdwjx1981>  mazda01_:  my english is poor
[03:39] <foobarbecue> mazda01_: that's what I tried at first, but then I got "/dev/loop0: Is a directory"
[03:39] <autotec> Ubuntu tip 3:  if ain't broke, then don't break it :)
[03:39] <Ghoti> autotec: because I like trying new and different things? :)
[03:39] <linux> ToSIt0s: just guessing though it doesn't, if it does, its through HAL
[03:39] <PSiL0> Ghoti: That's it!  THanks a million man!
[03:39] <foobarbecue> mazda01_:  which makes me think it's not supposed to be...
[03:39] <musikgoat> stlsaint: do you know the root password?  you can try to "su -"
[03:39] <mazda01_> foobarbecue: that means that the directory is already there
[03:39] <Ghoti> autotec: though you'd need to to a lot of convincing to get me to try an RPM-based distro again ;)
[03:39] <musikgoat> stlsaint: but unless you changed it, that would be locked up
[03:39] <stlsaint> su with what cmd
[03:39] <Ghoti> PSiL0: no problem!  That'll be €8 please.
[03:39] <musikgoat> stlsaint: just su and dash
[03:39] <linux> gartral: one of those two programs usually works for me, i have never had both of them fail unless the HD was bad
[03:40] <PSiL0> Ghoti: lol
[03:40] <ToStItOs> I might just have to wait and play with it when I get it
[03:40] <mazda01_> stlsaint: you're going to have to boot up a recover session and it'll boot you into root.
[03:40] <autotec> Ghoti:  not me, i drive a 93 dakota (rescued it out of junk yard).
[03:40] <foobarbecue> mazda01_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/251144/
[03:40] <mazda01_> stlsaint: then it'll let you add your username to the sudoers file
[03:40] <Ghoti> autotec: kudos for the ultimate recycling program :)
[03:40] <gartral> linux: the hardrive reads, and has files on it, but i cant read the fires, or add more
[03:40] <stlsaint> what cmd do i use to add myself to sudoers file?
[03:40] <MrSiebel> Can anyone tell me a good site for projects in ubuntu like howtoforge.com?
[03:40] <Ghoti> stlsaint: visudoers
[03:41] <linux> gartral: i take its fat16 or fat32?
[03:41] <autotec> Ghoti:  fedora not that bad, if you don't mind a lot of updates and dist upgrade, boy they move way too fast.
[03:41] <gartral> linux: fat32
[03:41] <foobarbecue> mazda01_: that's what I get if I create the directory. No loop created, whether I start with a directory or start with nothing.
[03:41] <mazda01_> foobarbecue: why in the world are you trying to use a swap file over nfs?
[03:41] <musikgoat> stlsaint: in your situation, you would need to follow mazda01_'s advice
[03:41] <Quatroking> Hi
[03:41] <Ghoti> autotec: Meh.    I hvae heard good things though, TBH
[03:41] <foobarbecue> mazda01_: because I only have 16mb on my embedded device and that's not enough to run apt-get
[03:41] <Ghoti> !hi | Quatroking
[03:41] <foobarbecue> mazda01_: and cross-compiling is a pain
[03:42] <linux> gartral: maybe its the first version of fat32 (not the modern one), i know i had one HD that none of the software in linux would repair, have you tried repairing it with fat repairing software for linux?
[03:42] <Ghoti> gartral: perhaps the filesystem is mounted read-only?
[03:42] <musikgoat> autotec: really? like more than every 6 months?
[03:42] <musikgoat> autotec: i don't think so
[03:42] <mazda01_> foobarbecue: ah, sorry. i see. so do you have the nfs shared out like the directions to the link you pasted. i have never done this so I am only trying to help from what I read
[03:42] <Quatroking> I jsut installed 9.0.4 after abandoning Ubuntu for far too long, and I noticed that the front audio-out isn't working
[03:42] <autotec> what was that distro i tired long ago, turbo linux 4 i think, look good then they went gnome and started looking like everybody else.  but v 4 was awesome.
[03:42] <Quatroking> Just*
[03:42] <stlsaint> alright guys i will try and if no go than ill be back shortly ....thanks musik and mazda
[03:42] <linux> Ghoti: ask him to check the stab or the file that sets the mounts upon boot
[03:42] <mazda01_> stlsaint: np
[03:42] <gartral> linux: Ghoti no, i formatted it originally on a win xp pro sp2 machine, and about it being read only.. i doubt it
[03:42] <Quatroking> Now, I have no idea how to fix this. Anyone?
[03:42] <musikgoat> stlsaint: gl
[03:43] <zmdwjx1981> who is china?
[03:43] <Ghoti> gartral: could you pastebin the output of 'mount' please?
[03:43] <foobarbecue> mazda01_: that's alright, thanks for your help. you indirectly led me to solve my tftp problem earlier, by the way
[03:43] <LinuxGold> what is libcuda?
[03:43] <gartral> Ghoti: ok, but im telling you, this drive isnt showing up
[03:44] <gartral> ectl (rw)
[03:44] <musikgoat> LinuxGold: i would assume its the libraries for the cuda GPU language
[03:44] <LinuxGold> ok
[03:44] <gartral> Ghoti: http://gar.pastebin.com/f7941d17
[03:44] <Quatroking> Nobody?
[03:44] <gartral> !anyone | Quatroking
[03:44] <musikgoat> Quatroking: repeat please?
[03:45] <LinuxGold> ok, looks like nvidia didn't include cuda GPU language for 185.*
[03:45] <Quatroking> my front audio ports don't work
[03:45] <mazda01_> foobarbecue: oh, cool. so what are you going to do about the nfs share as swap?
[03:45] <Quatroking> and I have no idea to get them to work.
[03:45] <LinuxGold> -> Unable to access backed up file '/usr/lib/libcuda.so.173.14.16'
[03:45] <LinuxGold> and error runs on...
[03:45] <Ghoti> gartral: okay, how about this:  sudo fdisk -l
[03:45] <Ghoti> gartral: does the drive show up in that output?
[03:46] <autotec> Ghoti:  Progeny Linux was great distro, went bust though.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progeny_Linux_Systems
[03:46] <musikgoat> Quatroking: do you know that the front audio works in other OS's?  e.g. that the wires are connected to the mobo?
[03:46] <LinuxGold> brb -- booting using standard SVGA drivers
[03:46] <mazda01_> Quatroking: ubuntu now uses pulseaudio server, have you checked gnome alsa mixer to ensure that your volumes are all turned up>
[03:46] <Quatroking> They work fine in Win7 and Vista.
[03:46] <Quatroking> and all my volumes are turned on 100%
[03:46] <blognewb> Ghoti: hi what was the command you gave me again sorry substring search of filename/package name
[03:47] <Ghoti> blognewb: dpkg-query -l | grep ii | grep string
[03:47] <blognewb> Ghoti: thank you so much
[03:47] <Ghoti> blognewb: my pleasure!  That'll be ¥80 please. ;)
[03:48] <autotec> ? i got Stani's Python Editor install, looks great.  Is this what real developers use?
[03:49] <blognewb> Ghoti: i give cheap blowjobs
[03:49] <timitheos> k
[03:49] <Ghoti> blognewb: Sorry, that position has been filled.  Also, let's keep this channel G-rated, shall we? :)
[03:49] <cosmic_karma> hi how do i stop like the automatic updates?
[03:49] <blognewb> Gee thanks
[03:50] <Ghoti> cosmic_karma: it shouldn't be doing any automatic updates without your blessing.
[03:50] <musikgoat> lol, Ghoti, that made the room go silent
[03:50] <musikgoat> unless i'm just lagging
[03:50] <Ghoti> musikgoat: I'm a discourcidal maniac :)
[03:50] <musikgoat> oh, and i was
[03:50] <cosmic_karma> the update manager keeps nagging me popping up rrandomly
[03:50] <zmdwjx1981> :'(
[03:51] <cosmic_karma> any way to disable from gui or terminal code to copy?
[03:51] <ToStItOs> jtaji are you still here got a question
[03:51] <gartral> Ghoti: no, it does not, untill i reinsert it
[03:51] <lily> im using ubuntu904 and after installing an update this morning i now have no browser avaliable. cd someone help pls
[03:51] <musikgoat> cosmic_karma: you can stop it in gconf-ediot
[03:51] <Ghoti> cosmic_karma: system -> administration -> Software Sources -> Updates tab.  Uncheck 'em all.
[03:51] <musikgoat> *gconf-editor
[03:52] <musikgoat> Ghoti: that wouldn't be good
[03:52] <smeltser> can someone explain to me how to download a .tar.gz file?
[03:52] <cosmic_karma> thanks
[03:52] <autotec> Ghoti: that bad idea, no security updates?
[03:52] <linux> Updated 21:51, Lexmark X63 Problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1236711 any other suggestions?
[03:52] <cosmic_karma> that was the one i was gonna do
[03:52] <Ghoti> musikgoat: cosmic_karma wants to not get any more update notifications. On its head be it.
[03:52] <musikgoat> Ghoti: cosmic_karma is referring to the auto pop up
[03:52] <cosmic_karma> auto pop up is annoying
[03:52] <ctmjr> smeltser: download it like any other file
[03:52] <autotec> cosmic_karma: wish it out into the corn field...
[03:52] <musikgoat> cosmic_karma: Apps->Update Notifier. On the right, unchecked the auto_launch box.
[03:52] <cosmic_karma> lmao
[03:53] <gartral> Ghoti: ok, now that i reinserted it, it *does* come up an *i* flagged as rw
[03:53] <Ghoti> cosmic_karma:  musikgoat: autotec: As always in Linuxland, there's more than one way to skin a cat :)
[03:53] <Ghoti> gartral: now that it's rw, can you write to the drive?
[03:54] <cosmic_karma>  yea im a noob but i love ubuntu
[03:54] <gartral> Ghoti: no.. it "dissappears" again
[03:54] <cosmic_karma> anhd i love how everyone helps
[03:54] <cosmic_karma> tahnks
[03:54] <cosmic_karma> thanks
[03:54] <Ghoti> gartral: Drat.
[03:54] <musikgoat> Ghoti: i agree, although the analogy would be, my directions skin a cat, your directions boil the cat, which gets the fur off as well
[03:54] <gartral> Ghoti: it was always rw... but it does this same thing on linux mac and windows
[03:54] <musikgoat> Ghoti: :P
[03:54] <linux> smeltser: take the URL from Firefox and right click, save as (or copy the URL and in terminal wget <url.tar.gz>); to extract tar -xvf *.tar.gz
[03:54] <autotec> since there no linux virus, if didn't have to work tomorrow i would stay up all night and create one.  wife say it's bed time, later dudes...
[03:54] <Ghoti> musikgoat: in the end, the cat is still dead ;)
[03:55] <Ashfire908> Hi, when I run Nexuiz and start a match, at the end of loading, my system "breaks". I can't do anything. If i try to switch ttys nothing on screen happens, ctrl-atl-delete does nothing useful, and the only way I can fix it is by restarting with the power button (hodling it) or SysRq keys.
[03:55] <cosmic_karma> good night
[03:55] <neoTheCat> i know this question might be really generic, but for some reason, out of the blue, urbanterror has become unplayable, in terms of being really slow.  has  anyone seen this kind of thing happen?
[03:55] <autotec> i chk slashdot tomorrow to see if any of these idiots create a linux virus.
[03:55] <linux> Ashfire908: try Alt+Ctrl+Backspace?
[03:56] <Ashfire908> linux, that's disabled in 9.04
[03:56] <Ghoti> neoTheCat: hard to say..  Try running htop (or just top) in the background, and see if it's CPU-related perhaps?
[03:56] <gartral> Ashfire908: sounds like theres a problem with your Nexuiz, are you running the 2.5.1 or ubuntu repos client?
[03:56] <philf> Hi, having an issue with flashplayer, since about 4 days ago, a website I was using doesn't work anymore, when I start the application, it's a photo editing online tool, I get a big blue box...the main page works, but nothing else, I've got Gnash, and adobe installed, but can't figure it out...any thoughts?
[03:56] <musikgoat> absolutely
[03:56] <autotec> opps, there is a linux virus wicd sure enough updated itself and now don't work.
[03:56] <linux> Ashfire908: darn, all the good things taken away in 9.04
[03:56] <Ghoti> !dontzap | Ashfire908
[03:56] <mazda01_> neoTheCat: does top show any process taking a lot of cpu? what does free -m show? did ou upgrade lately? it could have changed graphics drivers on you. many possibiliteis
[03:56] <autotec> ;)
[03:56] <Ashfire908> gartral, no, nexuiz is a trigger. It's something with my graphics.
[03:57] <gartral> Ashfire908: are you on an Nvidia card?
[03:57] <dkulchenko>  How can I use iptables in such a way that any request to http://randomtext.com/ goes to <IP_ADDRESS>:8089 (I would use /etc/hosts, but it does not support routing to a port).
[03:57] <jedc> linux, ctrl + alt + backspace is really easy to enable again
[03:57] <Ashfire908> gartral, no, intel...
[03:57] <gartral> Ashfire908: AHHH.. intel imbedded graphics.. wonderful..
[03:58] <linux> jedc: by default hitting ctrl+alt+backspace three times quickly should enable it, nothing harder
[03:58] <gartral> Ghoti: /dev/sdb1 on /media/BETHDRIVE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush) that line disturbs me for some reason
[03:58] <thiebaude> Ashfire908: i have had my trials with intel
 you can use /etc/hosts, but point to <IP_ADDRESS>, then forward port 80 to 127.0.01:8089
[03:58] <bassliner> ez, so how do i avoid that ubuntu installs some testing version of firefox (shiretoko, minefield) just because i aptitude upgrade?
[03:58] <musikgoat> linux: add that to the ubuntu brainstorm
[03:58] <Ghoti> gartral: that looks normal to me
[03:59] <linux> musikgoat: adding
[03:59] <Ghoti> (I, for one, can't understand why they disabled C-A-BkSp to bekin with)
[03:59] <ghostdog> do any of you have experience using samba to share files from a computer running ubuntu?
[03:59] <blognewb> hey is it ok to reinstall the same version of PHP even if i have already one in the box? I'll do it to integrate FCGI/FPM.... hello?
[03:59] <gartral> Ghoti: ok, anything else you can think of?
[03:59] <Ghoti> gartral: sorry, not off the top of my head :(
[03:59] <musikgoat> bassliner: umm, you uninstall the beta software?
[03:59] <neoTheCat> mazda01_: it looks like urbanterror is taking 100% for some reason.  i am going try downgrading to nvidia driver 173, instead of 180
[04:00] <Ghoti> ghostdog: I have a working SMB share; what can we help you with?
[04:00] <musikgoat> bassliner: aptitude upgrade will upgrade what you have installed
[04:00] <gartral> linux: what would you use to repair the partition table?
[04:00] <Ghoti> gartral:  fsck?
[04:00] <dkulchenko> LiNeTuX: thanks! that would work.
[04:00] <Ashfire908> gartral, I also had this issue with Gentoo.
[04:00] <temporarytao_> anyone know of a good electronics layouting program like ORCAD but for linux?
[04:00] <ghostdog> Ghoti: i tried creating a share on my linux computer using the file browser. it shows up on my other computers, but i cannot actually log into it
 /etc/init.d can be your friend there as well
[04:00] <gartral> Ghoti: fsck hangs
[04:00] <kapil> gartral: "parted" perhaps.
[04:00] <ghostdog> Ghoti: i'm using the right username and password but it just doesn't work
[04:01] <temporarytao_> i know there's a free version of eagle but it just sucks to use something that's been limited
[04:01] <Ashfire908> gartral, one of the reasons I'm using ubuntu (switched back) is this issue, which appeared after an update in gentoo occured.
[04:01] <jcapinc> hay can anyone tell me how to get android working on virtualbox on ubuntu?
[04:01] <Guiri> I can't seem to browse the /var/www/ using the default apache2 install from my DynDNS name
[04:01] <Guiri> Can someone help me?
[04:01] <gartral> Ashfire908: the intel drivers in Linux.. (that's Gentoo, redhat, fedora, debian, ubuntu...) is confirmed borked, and intel has said basically little more than "Meh, more reason to use windows"
[04:01] <dkulchenko> LiNeTuX: how would i go about forwarding from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>:8089 (I am totally new to iptables)
[04:02] <cosmic_karma> how do i get /list to show chans by size, its been so long since i was a regular irc user?
[04:02] <Ashfire908> gartral, any solution?
[04:02] <neoTheCat> jcapinc:  what problems are you having?  it pretty much worked out of the box for me?
[04:02] <cosmic_karma> never used xchat, used to use excursion back in the day
 I'd just use a port forward w/init.d.  ... um, I'll start a sidebar w/you and explain
[04:02] <Ashfire908> gartral, besides getting a new card or coding a better driver
[04:02] <gartral> Ashfire908: downgrade to 8.10 or an LTS release
[04:03] <Ghoti> ghostdog: Hand a sec, I'll have some things for you to try momentarily
[04:03] <ghostdog> ok
[04:03] <Ashfire908> gartral, uh... can I just downgrade the driver?
[04:03] <Guiri> I'm not sure what else to do. ufw has port 80 open but I still can't see the index.html in the /var/www/
[04:03] <MindLess> hi there
[04:03] <myself> you'r ea god
[04:03] <musikgoat> Guiri: can you see localhost from teh webserver?
[04:03] <gartral> Ashfire908: not without recompileing the kernal, its hardcoded into the kernal structure
[04:03] <cosmic_karma> nevermind xchat is pretty sweet
[04:03] <Xerran> Anyone in the room using conky-colors? I can not get weather working
[04:03] <jcapinc> neoTheCat, I downloaded a .vdi.bz2 and extracted it, started running it and I get GRUB loading stage 2... forever
[04:04] <MindLess> guyz is anybody have knowledge about clam sound library
[04:04] <Guiri> musikgoat: Webserver is a friend's machine in another state that I'm helping him setup. But I'm SSHed in under the dyndns name
[04:04] <Guiri> So I know it resolves
[04:04] <Ashfire908> gartral, suppose I did that... (i haven't but I can, after all I used gentoo)
[04:04] <spO> i could do a gpg --export KEY -ao public.key   to create exportable keys or i could simply copy   secring.gpg and pubring.gpg  (from the gpg config directory)  if i want to backup keys or anything like that, right?
[04:04] <musikgoat> Guiri: set up a local tunnel... ssh -L 80:localhost:80 account@yourfreind
[04:05] <musikgoat> Guiri: then you go to localhost on your machine
[04:05] <gartral> Ashfire908: well... you would have to find a patch and a copy of the previus driver's source... beyond  that, im lost
[04:06] <neoTheCat> jcapinc:  which virtualbox version?  i'll check my settings....
[04:06] <Guiri> musikgoat: Yes I can see localhost now in the browser.
[04:06] <Guiri> Why can't I see it from the outside? Some setting I've forgotten?
[04:06] <musikgoat> Guiri: and you can see index?
[04:06] <musikgoat> Guiri: prolly lan router port forwarding
[04:06] <Guiri> Yeah, I have the It Works! index.html
[04:06] <Ashfire908> gartral, ok then. At least I have a direction to go in now.
[04:06] <Guiri> It's in the DMZ. I can see each port with a portscan
[04:06] <musikgoat> Guiri: or dsl modem/router or something
[04:06] <Zzyzx> Q: how to get paravirtualization option in Virtual Machine Manager to be available?
[04:06] <jcapinc> neoTheCat, standard ubuntu 8.10 repository version, 2.0.4_OSE
[04:07] <gartral> Ashfire908: also having recompiled your kernal means the Ubuntu community cant help you as fully
[04:07] <th0r> Guiri: some isp's block port 80 for private accounts.
[04:07] <Guiri> musikgoat: Okay. I'll check i tout
[04:07] <musikgoat> Guiri: dmz's sometimes suck on home routers... but i would blame it on that, or the webserver doesn't have its route setup
[04:07] <musikgoat> Guiri: so its not sending traffic out
[04:07] <musikgoat> Guiri: but i would think he would know he cant get to the internet
[04:08] <neoTheCat> jcapinc: i am runnning 3.0.4.  maybe that has something to do with it...
[04:08] <MrPiracy> can i set grub to launch vista directly without using it's builtin bcd?
[04:08] <Hilikus> how can i reset $PATH without loging out?
[04:08] <web_sohum> is there any way to use dpkg or apt locally?
[04:08] <musikgoat> th0r: ir right too... but stateside, thats less and less
[04:08] <Ashfire908> gartral, harder to get help or a system that is prone to essentally crashing?
[04:08] <Veinor> FOr some reason, whenever I boot Linux, I can't get sound until I kill pulseaudio.
[04:08] <jcapinc> neoTheCat, I would tend to agree with you, I believe many changes were made in the new version, including 3D support
[04:08] <Guiri> musikgoat: Thanks much for the help. I'll check ou tthe router
[04:08] <Veinor> And then start it up again.
[04:09] <gartral> Ashfire908: i had to recompile the kernal back in 8.10 so my sound cards wouldnt conflict
[04:09] <musikgoat> Hilikus: you can source your environment  source /etc/environment
[04:09] <musikgoat> Hilikus: i don't know if it clears added ones though
[04:09] <Hilikus> musikgoat: perfect!
[04:09] <musikgoat> Guiri: yw
[04:09] <stlsaint> hey musikgoat im back but with a story of success
[04:10] <hanasaki> I am looking at backup options... how long will data stay intact on a hardrive that isn't used and sits? on a usb stick?
[04:10] <musikgoat> stlsaint: you got sudo?
[04:10] <stlsaint> i got sudo!!!
[04:10] <musikgoat> good
[04:10] <jcapinc> hanasaki, either is probably permenent, flash is more reliable
[04:10] <stlsaint> thanks...now im here to offer my services to those in need...
[04:11] <LiNeTuX> Heh.  "Probably Permanent"  "Jumbo Shrimp"
[04:11] <hanasaki> I hear CD/DVD is only about 5yrs?
[04:11] <musikgoat> lol
[04:11] <gartral> hanasaki: NAND flash has a 10 year shelf stability... soo.. as long as you plug it in for an hour every 8 or so years, you shouldnt have too worry
[04:12] <hanasaki> NAND?
[04:12] <gartral> hanasaki: most flashdisks have NAND flash arrays
[04:12] <hanasaki> just plug it in? or do you need to actively read everything for a  refresh
[04:12] <gartral> hanasaki: just plugging it in will do
[04:12] <stlsaint> i just made the final ubuntu jump...erased the triple boot of xp now all i got is UBUNTU!!
[04:12] <hanasaki> gartral:  read this.... http://blog.ironkey.com/?p=595
[04:13] <cosmic_karma> i just instaled jaunty and i had a problem with hibernate, since i rebooted my desktop untitiled folder is gone any suggestions where it could be now?
[04:13] <musikgoat> hanasaki: what most flash is... wikipedia nand flash and nor flash
[04:13] <stlsaint> on two partitions
[04:13] <jcapinc> Would everyone here agree that that flash is the next standard in mass storage technology?
[04:14] <LiNeTuX> jcapinc: no.  unproven.
[04:14] <stlsaint> uh it shows promise but...still has work to do!!
[04:14] <cosmic_karma> guess i didnt really reboot as much as kinda hold the power button in a fewtimes until it let me log in again
[04:14] <musikgoat> jcapinc: not persay, but thats the direction currently
[04:14] <hanasaki> jcapinc:  you mean solidstate HD?
[04:14] <jcapinc> yes
[04:15] <Guest82931> hello i want to know how to make my icons be in lines and not all over the place... thankyou
[04:15] <temporarytao> anybody know of a good linux logic circuit prototyping program
[04:15] <stlsaint> uh click and drag!?!?
[04:15] <edbian> Guest82931: Right click "clean up by name"
[04:15] <stlsaint> or that
[04:15] <musikgoat> jcapinc: when intel got into the business, that saw a big boost in the likelyhood of it being a standard, but we will see
[04:15] <Guest82931> where do i right click. thanks
[04:16] <edbian> Guest82931: Anywhere on the desktop.  Just no on an icon.  You are using gnome right?
[04:16] <Guest82931> oh i see thanyou\
[04:16] <stlsaint> desktop
[04:16] <jcapinc> thanks for all your thoughts
[04:16] <edbian> Guest82931: No offense but isn't that obvious?
[04:16] <lamebot> why do i have to reset my clock every time i turn off my computer?
[04:16] <Guest82931> yes sorry. i got it
[04:16] <cosmic_karma> hibernate worked in hardy but had an error message . it always worked well thoug. I had my powerstrip unplugged for a week and when i powered it on it was right where i left off
[04:16] <edbian> Guest82931: NP! :)
[04:16] <temporarytao> lamebot, dead bios battery?
[04:16] <gartral> hanasaki: yea, i knew that.. that's why i dont use flashdrives if at all possible
[04:16] <musikgoat> lamebot: you might need to replace your cmos battery
[04:16] <edbian> lamebot: What do you mean?  Is the system telling you to set it?  Is it wrong when you restart?
[04:17] <lamebot> doubt it, its a pretty new computer
[04:17] <cosmic_karma> jaunty froze up after i hibernated from lastnight and unplugged the strip cuz of tstorms
[04:17] <hanasaki> gartral:  because they degrade?  so what do you use and why?
[04:17] <john_re> What's the suggested way to get java (to enable firefox to do java. FF plugins?) - 1) from the ubuntu package? which package - which package name? 2) fron sun?
[04:17] <stlsaint> hibernate is quirky like that....try to stray away from it!!
[04:17] <edbian> john_re: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted extras"
[04:17] <edbian> john_re: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[04:17] <lamebot> no its just wen i durn it on it is alaways off by the same number of hours but the minutes are right. I think maybe its the wrong timezone but i cant figure out how to change that
[04:18] <temporarytao> lamebot, you probably need to check your locale
[04:18] <musikgoat> lamebot: do you have your bios reset jumper set to on?
[04:18] <musikgoat> lamebot: after you set the time, what happens if you sudo hwclock --systohc
[04:18] <edbian> lamebot: I bet your hardware clock is wrong or something.
[04:18] <Guest82931> john_re, i made it work with their package.. but also install the restricted extas like they say
[04:18] <shamm> I have been trying to get nvidia 185.* driver to work, it blanked out my display then froze the system.  Is anyone running nvidia with 185.* ?
[04:18] <gartral> hanasaki: i use USB powered hard drive enclosures, prefferably decent western digital or seagate.. true, heads can crash, but at least that ussually doesnt corrupt everything
[04:18] <stlsaint> ttyl fellas
[04:18] <edbian> stlsaint: Night!
 how would i change that?
[04:18] <mickey> hi!all
[04:19] <hanasaki> gartral:  have  a url for an enclosure you like that is cheap/good... ?    what do you think about samsung drives?
[04:19] <john_re> edbian: Guest82931 thx
[04:19] <edbian> lamebot: Is this a dual boot system?  (man hwclock)
[04:19] <temporarytao> edbian, i'm betting on wrong timezone
[04:19] <edbian> john_re: NP!
[04:19] <Guest82931> any ideas on how i make my windows (or the top bar) transparent or a glass look
[04:19] <temporarytao> he says the hours are off, not the minutes
[04:19] <edbian> temporarytao: I think you're right
[04:19] <Guest82931> john_re, yourwelcome
[04:19] <bassliner> hm, i really don't get it, i have 2 machines with the exactly same sources.list file and on the one it always tries to upgrade to firefox 3.5 or 3.6 and on the other not...
[04:19] <lamebot> musikgoat: it is correct when i sudo hwclock
[04:19] <temporarytao> prolly the timezone
[04:19] <bassliner> any help?
[04:20] <lamebot> edbian: yes
[04:20] <musikgoat> lamebot: yea, i was not thinking timezone
[04:20] <edbian> lamebot: One of the OS's thinks your HW clock is UTC and the other thinks it's local time.  They are competing with each other ;)
[04:20] <lamebot> musikgoat: i just got back from austria. How would i adjust timezone?
[04:20] <temporarytao> lamebot, you can select multiple timezones
[04:20] <lamebot> edbian: thanks, how would i fix this? adjust the time in bios menu?
[04:21] <legend2440> timitheos: are you still here?
[04:21] <edbian> lamebot: There is a file in ubuntu.  I have to find it.  Hang on.
[04:21] <temporarytao> when you go australia, select the australian time zone as the main one. when you get back, select the other one
[04:21] <gartral> hanasaki: samsung? if you have nothing else.. sure hold on, comp runnign slow as molasses
[04:21] <hanasaki> gartral:  huh?
[04:21] <lamebot> teporarytao: thanks, but i dont see a timezone option in time and date settings
[04:22] <gartral> hanasaki: for link
[04:22] <Guest82931> sorry for the noobness but how do i chnge my nick?
[04:22] <musikgoat> lamebot: ok, from command line...
[04:22] <hanasaki> gartral: ah.. thanks...
[04:22] <temporarytao> lamebot, it's there. i can't really walk you through the gui right now but look around for it
[04:22] <edbian> lamebot: While I check look at "etc/timezone" and make sure it's right.
[04:22] <JohnCDI1> i know this is probably trivial but does anyone know if its possible to get alltray to respond to a command rather than having to click i'd like to just put a script at startup that will just start evolution and automatically have it set in the tray
[04:23] <musikgoat> lamebot:  sudo tzconfig
[04:23] <benjr> when i access shared network folders they appear on the desktop, how can i make them appear in home instead?
[04:23] <gartral> hanasaki: theser are good http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20213 and these are good only after replaceing the drive http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.14586
[04:24] <hanasaki> gartral:  you mean you don't like hitachi?
[04:24] <musikgoat> lamebot: or what is now dpkg-reconfigure tzdata i guess
[04:24] <gartral> hanasaki: most hatatchi products are alright, those are just sllooow drives
[04:25] <hanasaki> EAGET is only 42k rpm
[04:25] <lamebot> musikgoat: thanks i tried that but it said i need to run as root, sorry im a complete noob
[04:25] <musikgoat> lamebot: sudo
[04:25] <musikgoat> lamebot:  add sudo before the command
[04:25] <gartral> hanasaki: and you see around 40 mbps from that, while the hatachi only gets 18
[04:26] <lamebot> musikgoat: thanks looks like thats working
[04:26] <hanasaki> ah
[04:26] <edbian> lamebot: Did you get it?
[04:26] <Automan070192> hey wats up can anyone help me
[04:26] <edbian> lamebot: In case you still have problems try editing this file: /etc/default/rcS
[04:26] <musikgoat> !ask | Automan070192
[04:26] <edbian> Automan070192: Probably! :)
[04:26] <lamebot> thanks everyone looks like its working
[04:27] <clop> how do i change the highlight color when i select text with the mouse?  it's light blue right now and its hard to read
[04:27] <lamebot> seems to have worked ill try a reboot and see
[04:27] <Automan070192> ok i need help because i have been trying to get a later version of ubuntu for some time but everytime i make or use a disc it freezes my computer
[04:28] <edbian> lamebot: Awesome! :)
[04:28] <cosmic_karma> jaunty froze up after i hibernated from lastnight and unplugged the strip cuz of tstorms any suggestions?
[04:28] <edbian> cosmic_karma: For me installing the package "fs2ram" helped hibernation and suspend work much better.  Hibernation and Suspend are very hit or miss on linux still unfortunately :(
[04:28] <cosmic_karma> i had my pc unplugged for over a week with hardy and it was right where i left off, it gave error msg from every hibernate , but never any real problems
[04:28] <stlsaint> back for the third time!!!
[04:29] <stlsaint> so who is trying karmic koala right now?
[04:29] <cosmic_karma> thanks edbian
[04:29] <edbian> How can I find every file on my system that has a "~" ?  I've tried "locate -r ~" but it returned many many files (a lot that don't have ~ in the name)
[04:29] <musikgoat> !karmic | stlsaint
[04:29] <linux> JohnCDI1: maybe try asking on this forum also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173759
[04:29] <hanasaki> gartral:  know anything about these?  I thought they were good.. from what you say ... now I am not sure... SAMSUNG HD103UJ
[04:29] <Automan070192> ok i need help because i have been trying to get a later version of ubuntu for some time but everytime i make or use a disc it freezes my computer any suggestions?
[04:29] <musikgoat> stlsaint: just in case you have questions about it
[04:30] <stlsaint> i thought i was in testing right now?
[04:30] <Ghoti> edbian: try locate -r '~' perhaps?
[04:30] <edbian> Automan070192: Why not just update from with in ubuntu?
[04:30] <musikgoat> stlsaint: nope
[04:30] <edbian> Ghoti: I'll try hang on
[04:30] <benjr> when i access shared network folders they appear on the desktop, how can i make them appear in home instead?
[04:30] <edbian> Ghoti: That did it!  Thanks :)
[04:30] <Automan070192> ok how may i do that?
[04:30] <nacho_> hii
[04:31] <edbian> Automan070192: Open the update manager ;)
[04:31] <stlsaint> wow...ive been given wrong info!!!
[04:31] <nacho_> che alguien sabe como sacar el login despues de la hibernacion?
[04:31] <edbian> Automan070192: System -> Admin -> Update Manager
[04:31] <Ghoti> edbian: anytime :)
[04:31] <stlsaint> i had a feeling but...
[04:32] <gartral> hanasaki: those look pretty good, actually
[04:32] <musikgoat> stlsaint: how so?
[04:32] <hanasaki> what websites.. in the usa do you all use for buying HW?  gartral lol I hope so.. I bought 2 for RAID
[04:32] <henriq> algum br
[04:32] <nacho_> hi
[04:32] <stlsaint> from reading forums and chatting with other ppl...i never actually seen it for myself and now i know y!
[04:33] <Ghoti> hanasaki: I usually check newegg.com and pricewatch.com for hardware prices
[04:33] <phylon> how do i find a text in a set of files(directory)
[04:33] <gartral> hanasaki: i like kingstar computers
[04:34] <musikgoat> hanasaki: there are a few, newegg, zipzoomfly, provantage
[04:34] <Ghoti> phylon: grep pattern /path/to/directory/*
[04:34] <hanasaki> ya I look at newegg a lot.. they have really good catalogs at least to find stuff
[04:34] <musikgoat> hanasaki: tiger direct
[04:34] <edbian> !ot
[04:34] <kyaa-mayori> hi
[04:35] <lamebot> thanks everyone that fixed my clock problems
[04:35] <edbian> lamebot: How thankful you are! :)
[04:36] <nacho_> how can I avoid having to give my passwaord to the screen saver when resuming from hibernation?
[04:36] <cosmic_karma> temporarytao, i like that name
[04:36] <MrPocketz> So, I've got a 5.1 onboard soundcard, (nVidia)  and a 5.1 PCI sound card (Audigy2)
[04:36] <Ghoti> nacho_: when you hibernate, having to log back in isn't really optional.
[04:36] <stlsaint> lol...sorry musik that was me
[04:37] <MrPocketz> Except, when i open volume control, the only thing i can get to play sound is the Playback: HDA NVidia - ALC883 analog (PulseAudio Mixer)
[04:37] <hanasaki> gartral:  can I msg you in private?
[04:37] <MrPocketz> which only offers a "Master" mixer.  I'd like to be able to control all channels. Is this possible?
[04:37] <gartral> hanasaki: sure
[04:38] <benjr> when i access shared network folders they appear on the desktop, how can i make them appear in home instead?
[04:39] <Cuddles> MrPocketz, Are you using karmic?
[04:39] <choppyhorse> how can I enter a command into a terminal and have it keep running even when I close the terminal window?
[04:39] <stlsaint> but has anyone tried cairo-dock yet...i hear its a lil annoying if it goes bad!
[04:39] <Ghoti> !screen | choppyhorse
[04:39] <MrPocketz> Cuddles, Never heard of it. Don't believe so..
[04:39] <meanburrito920_> choppyhorse: start it in a screen session
[04:39] <stealth-> can someone explain why I cant connect to a router less than 4 feet away that has essid broadcast on and no security?   Without the pretty gui interface?
[04:40] <stealth-> Bookman: you can use rtorrent, which is awesome, in my opinion
[04:40] <Ghoti> Bookman: if you're looking for a command line torrent client, look into rtorrent
[04:40] <stlsaint> cuddles: if you mean koala its not out fully yet is what im being told!!
[04:40] <stlsaint> MrPocketz: i think he means koala...see above!!
[04:41] <kran> hello
[04:41] <Bookman> stealth, Ghoti:  I will try rtorrent, but I've already partially downloaded a torrent with transmission and I'd love to finish them off from the command line.
[04:41] <kran> 能支持中文吗？
[04:41] <meanburrito920_> kran: english please
[04:41] <Veinor> Bookman: Most torrent clients support resuming, so you should just need to point it at the target directory
[04:41] <stlsaint> Bookman: you mean download torrents from cmd line?
[04:41] <Ghoti> !jp | kran
[04:42] <stlsaint> transmission should keep running as long as you dont quit it no matter where you start it from
[04:42] <Bookman> stlsaint: yes.
[04:42] <Ghoti> Bookman: I don't know if it's possible to transplant a partial download like that
[04:42] <Veinor> Except that looks more chinese to me, kran
[04:42] <Bookman> Veinor: let me see....
[04:42] <Ghoti> Veinor: it was a 50/50 shot, heh
[04:42]  * Veinor shrugs
[04:42] <Veinor> !zh
[04:42] <stlsaint> Bookman: i think it would be best to let the current torrent continue thru gui and research about starting a new one from terminal
[04:43] <Veinor> didn't know if we had a !zh, cool
[04:43] <Bookman> stlsaint: I want to start transmission via ssh and I don't want to run a gui.  I may not be able to and that is just fine, while I finish off the last two.
[04:44] <Ghoti> Bookman: the thing is, transmission is a GUI client, so I don't know if you can SSH in and start it on a GUI that session isn't a part of
[04:44] <jalfan> join ##electronics
[04:44] <jalfan> damnit
[04:44] <kran> why all english？
[04:44] <linux> Ghoti: Doesn't transmission have web control support?
[04:44] <edbian> Bookman: There is a transmission-cli package
[04:44] <Ghoti> linux: I do not know
[04:45] <stlsaint> agreed with Ghoti to bookman but i always say never count ubuntu down and out cuz it has ceased to amaze me yet...but highly unlikely!
[04:45] <choppyhorse> k screen worked ty.  2nd question: what does putting an "&" symbol after a command do?
[04:45] <Veinor> yeah, transmission-cli
[04:45] <Ghoti> kran: This is the English channel; what is your preferred language?
[04:45] <imme-emosol> Why is it that insserv changes many rc's the first time , does `Ubuntu` have a different opinion about the rcS then their own init-script ?
[04:45] <Veinor> choppyhorse: Runs it in the background so you can keep using the terminal
[04:45] <phylon> thanks Ghoti
[04:45] <Ghoti> choppyhorse: '&' puts the preceding command into the background
[04:45] <Ghoti> choppyhorse: but if you log out, the backgrounded process will usually terminate
[04:46] <stlsaint> TO All...whats the best(in your opinion) irc client in ubuntu?
[04:46] <Veinor> yeah, unless you put nohup in front of the command
[04:46] <choppyhorse> ty again
[04:46] <Ghoti> stlsaint: I alternate between irssi and xchat
[04:46] <Bookman> edbian: Yeah, I came across the transmission-cli in my research, but I never found out if it can "take over" downloading a current partial torrent
[04:46] <Ghoti> choppyhorse: my plesure
[04:46] <edbian> Bookman: Yeah I have no idea about that.  I don't it.
[04:46] <malek> exit
[04:46] <stlsaint> yea ive heard of the irssi...would you be able to elaborate on irssi a little more?
[04:46] <edbian> Bookman: Perhaps you could seed yourself?
[04:46] <linux> Bookman: I have used transmission-cli, it gives you the same control as the GUI over a web browser
[04:46] <kran> oh gad,english ,i hate it
[04:47] <Ghoti> kran: what do you prefer to speak?
[04:47] <stlsaint> Ghoti: what makes xchat better over KVIrc...which is what i use!??
[04:47] <Ghoti> stlsaint: I've not used KVirs, so I don't know :)
[04:47] <Ghoti> !zh > kran
[04:47] <kran> my english is poor,i will leave now,this is not my zoom
[04:47] <Veinor> stlsaint: irssi is a command-line irc client
[04:48] <Veinor> what I do is I have irssi run somewhere on a server in a screen session, then I ssh into the server and connect to screen as needed
[04:48] <stlsaint> Venior: so all cmds are done in a terminal of some sort?
[04:48] <Veinor> Well
[04:49] <Ghoti> Veinor: me as well :)
[04:49] <Veinor> http://www.irssi.org/images/irssi_cmd_100.png
[04:49] <Veinor> This is irssi running under cygwin.
[04:49] <stlsaint> lol...maybe you could give me a lil tutorial on how to do all that?
[04:49] <linux> anyone know how to fix my lexmark x63 to scan again in ubuntu 9.04? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7766497
[04:49] <Veinor> I actually wrote one on my blog, so sure
[04:50] <Ghoti> Veinor: I'd like to see any irssi tips you may have; I'm a recent BitchX convert :)
[04:50] <Veinor> you use awl?
[04:50] <xim_> is there a program that can play a wav or mp3 from a command prompt (in a script) without openening a gui player?
[04:50] <Ghoti> xim_: mpg123 should work
[04:51] <imme-emosol> So no-one who knows why `Ubuntu` has a different opinion about the rcS then the init-script themselves ?
[04:51] <xim_> Ghoti, thx ill try that
[04:51] <weaver> damn,... it;s been a long time since I've used IRC
[04:51] <stlsaint> Veinor: seen it...nice...looks like you gotta know these cmds back and forwards!!
[04:51] <stlsaint> well welcome back weaver
[04:51] <Veinor> eh, most of them are standard irc commands
[04:52] <Veinor> http://www.amateurtopologist.com/2009/07/22/irssi-ssh-and-screen-three-great-tastes-that-go-great-together/ if anyone's interested; I know my writing isn't exactly the best, haha
[04:52] <Ghoti> Veinor: thanks for the link :)
[04:52] <stlsaint> yea im still in the process of learning irc cmds
[04:52] <Veinor> no problem :)
[04:52] <Ghoti> Veinor: nice favicon too :)
[04:52] <Veinor> I highly recommend awl
[04:52] <skazi21101> after updating to 9.04 ubuntu don`t see my cd-rom. help me somebody
[04:53] <weaver> I probably can't remember a single IRC command at this point. lol.
[04:53] <Veinor> I should probably upload a screenshot for that article.
[04:53] <imme-emosol> weaver: You probably do ...
[04:53] <Ghoti> Veinor: 'awl'?  no relation to 'awk' I presume :)
[04:53] <Loafers> Why can't I format my 100GB HD as NTFS on Ubuntu using GParted?
[04:53] <Dark_Wolf> How do I stop the update manager from opening every few minutes?
[04:53] <R0b0t1> What is the name of the program to make archives?
[04:53] <legend2440> xim_: in terminal try mplayer <name>.mp3  if you have mplayer installed that is
[04:53] <R0b0t1> (the GUI_
[04:53] <weaver> Has everyone seen the new shots of UNR Koala?  Looks pretty great.
[04:53] <Veinor> R0b0t1: file-roller
[04:54] <skazi21101> after updating to 9.04 ubuntu don`t see my cd-rom. help me somebody
[04:54] <R0b0t1> Thanks, the name had changed :)
[04:54] <linux> Dark_Wolf: This bug has not been fixed yet as far as I know
[04:54] <nanotube> Dark_Wolf: install the updates :)
[04:54] <Dark_Wolf> mmkay
[04:54] <Dark_Wolf> I didn't know it was a bug
[04:54] <linux> nanotube: did they fix this bug yet?
[04:54] <Dark_Wolf> but as slow as my system runs ubuntu, it gets annoying
[04:54] <Veinor> Dark_Wolf: you should try xubuntu, it's faster
[04:55] <nanotube> linux: didn't know there was a bug. i still run intrepid, where instead of the annoying update manager popup, i get a nice little notification in the status bar!
[04:55] <Dark_Wolf> but..
[04:55] <Dark_Wolf> it's xfce
[04:55] <weaver> Dark_Wolf: Or Crunchbang linux. Way faster.
[04:55] <stealth-> Dark_Wolf: or xubuntu, then install fluxbox.
[04:55] <Veinor> or a terminal!
[04:55] <Geoffrey2> I'm looking for a list of wireless devices that work with linux, and the linux drivers they work with......
[04:55] <Dark_Wolf> xfce only has a little bar at the bottom and a limited file browser
[04:55] <Dark_Wolf> or it used to
[04:56] <nanotube> !wifi
[04:56] <skazi21101> after updating to 9.04 ubuntu don`t see my cd-rom. help me somebody
[04:56] <stealth-> Dark_Wolf: ummm, are you thinking of fluxbox?
[04:56] <Dark_Wolf> stealth-, no
[04:56] <linux> skazi21101: did you try in terminal a cd /media && ls ?
[04:56] <nanotube> !wifi | Geoffrey2
[04:56] <Dark_Wolf> stealth-, maybe it's changed since slackware 9...
[04:57] <Ghoti> skazi21101: can you pastebin the output of sudo dmesg | grep -i cd-rom
[04:57] <weaver> Dark_Wolf: Do you like any *box?
[04:58] <stealth-> Dark_Wolf: oh, sorry, xubuntu looks different than normal xfce installs apparently....
[04:58] <stealth-> Dark_Wolf: my bad :)
[04:58] <Drew3> Wow, 1,27x people in the room, someone should know this right off the top of their head, What is the command, to see which version of the video driver is installed?
[04:59] <stealth-> Drew3: most of the people here are AFK
[04:59] <stealth-> :P
[04:59] <nanotube> Drew3: probably can look in /var/log/xorg.0.log ?
[05:00] <skazi21101> Ghoti: there is nothing to post
[05:00] <nanotube> Drew3: besides that, the command is probably driver specific - something like fglrxinfo for ati, something else for nvidia?
[05:00] <skazi21101> Ghoti: its empty
[05:00] <Ghoti> skazi21101: interesting.  That means the kernel didn't see any CD-ROM drives to support.
[05:01] <Bookman> stealth-: Is there a good tutorial for rtorrent?
[05:01] <skazi21101> Ghoti: yes. thats i talking about
[05:01] <skazi21101> Ghoti: i don`t know what to do in this case
[05:01] <Ghoti> skazi21101: that sounds hardware-y.
[05:01] <Drew3> nanotube: fglrxinfo ,, that helps ty.
[05:01] <burkmat> Bookman: The manpage is pretty useful.
[05:01] <nanotube> Drew3: cool :)
[05:02] <kindofabuzz> it it a known problem for shared folders to just become unshared by themselves?
[05:02] <bassliner> o.O
[05:02] <skazi21101> Ghoti: there is an entry is fstab about my cd-rom. really its dvd-rw built in my noutbook
[05:02] <stealth-> Bookman: well I never needed a tutorial, but if you wanted to learn the advanced functions running 'man rtorrent' or searching google should help
[05:02] <benjr>
[05:02] <skazi21101> Ghoti: have any ideas?
[05:02] <rymo> i tried to start a Guest session but it froze after the nvidia logo at a white screen - i ran startx -- :1 from an alternate tty... but how do i get back to my original login where all my programs are still running? :-/
[05:02] <Ghoti> skazi21101: thinking
[05:03] <nanotube> rymo: try hitting "ctl-alt-f7"
[05:03] <linux> Drew3: there is always vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:04] <Drew3> I didn't think xorg.config gave the version number? linux
[05:05] <Drew3> "locate ati | grep fglrx" got me this --->  /usr/share/fglrx/atigetsysteminfo.sh  which maybe a help?
[05:06] <Sahdos> does anyone use OpenOffice.org?
[05:06] <nanotube> Drew3: why not just use fglrxinfo - doesn't that show version and all that?
[05:07] <nanotube> MeditatingFrog: just about everyone does on ubuntu :)
[05:07] <legend2440> Drew3: open  system>admin>hardware drivers  does it say which version is being used?
[05:07] <MeditatingFrog> nanotube: I'm trying to export a pdf, but I want the background to be black and the text to be green
[05:07] <MeditatingFrog> nanotube: have you ever tried this?
[05:08] <Drew3> nanotube: , no version number, of ati's driver version
[05:08] <linux> MeditatingFrog: try changing the background and text in openoffice prior to exporting as pdf; have you tried that yet?
[05:08] <nanotube> MeditatingFrog: no, never tried... what happens if you just edit the document properties to make bg black and text green, before exporting?
[05:08] <chris_lenz123> I need help, all the file conversion programs i find do not work well, do any of you know a good file conversion program that can make a avi movie i have into an mp4 that will be supported for my ipod on itunes?
[05:08] <MeditatingFrog> linux: yes
[05:08] <chris_lenz123> for linux^
[05:09] <MeditatingFrog> nanotube: there is white included in the document.  I want the document to be more readable on a computer
[05:09] <linux> chris_lenz123: let me research that now and see if any ring a bell
[05:09] <MeditatingFrog> nanotube, linux:  I will try one more time
[05:09] <skazi21101> Ghoti: maybe its in fstab??
[05:09] <nanotube> Drew3: then just look in the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and see if you see something useful....
[05:09] <chris_lenz123> linux: thanks
[05:09] <benjr> when i open a network share it makes an icon on my desktop, how do i make the icon appear in home instead
[05:10] <skazi21101> Ghoti: becouse its no cd-rom. but interface is okey
[05:10] <Geoffrey2> oh wonderful, I go and pick a wireless device that's not even in any of the lists......
[05:10] <foundry87> Why is it that I can't add a shadow border effect with gnome-screenshot when I'm trying to take a region screenshot?
[05:10] <MeditatingFrog> nanotube: no, still no luck.  the background still isn't black
[05:11] <bnijk> foundry87: you can, use gimp
[05:11] <MeditatingFrog> nanotube: I'm thinking it is beyond the capability of openoffice.org
[05:11] <edbian> benjr: You can manually mount the network share.  What kind of share is it?
[05:11] <foundry87> bnijk, I realize that I can't but why is that? I don't want to have to open gimp to do something that should be able to be done automatically.
[05:12] <bnijk> why would it do that automatically?
[05:12] <edbian> benjr: You could also create a soft (or hard if you want) link in /home to that file
[05:12] <ryan__> nanotube: ctrl-alt-f7 still gives me a white screen, although this time the startup sound played first.  after that going back to ctrl-alt-f2 (where i was typing to you before) is only a console again; i'm now typing to you from display :2 on ctrl-alt-f3
[05:12] <linux> chris_lenz123: take a look at FFMPEG: http://www.instructables.com/id/Convert-video-in-Linux/
[05:12] <nanotube> MeditatingFrog: ehrm, i just tried it, it worked for me.
[05:12] <bnijk> the great motto of software development, foundry87, "keep it simple stupid," don't add superfluous features to a program that are best served elsewhere
[05:12] <foundry87> bnijk: Because I want to add a shadow border to my screenshot automatically, I don't see what's wrong with that
[05:12] <nanotube> MeditatingFrog: i went to "format -> page", set background to black there
[05:13] <bnijk> most users of gnome-screenshot will not want a shadow border
[05:13] <nanotube> MeditatingFrog: then exported to pdf, and the pdf shows with black bg.
[05:13] <ryan__> with all those programs still running, can't i reconnect to that background'd x display somehow?  i'm guessing this is surely a simple linux thing i haven't learned yet coming from windows?
[05:13] <foundry87> bnijk: then why include the feature in the first place?
[05:13] <legend2440> Drew3: this works for finding out my nvidia driver version. not sure about ati   glxinfo | grep -i version
[05:13] <bnijk> ?
[05:13] <chris_lenz123> linux: k
[05:13] <foundry87> bnijk: the feature is already there, it's just that it doesn't work with region screenshots. Check for yourself.
[05:13] <bnijk> oic
[05:13] <linux> chris_lenz123: I tried mencode a long time ago, but you have to know the exact parameter to put after mencode
[05:14]  * ryan__ is rymo (d'oh)
[05:14] <bnijk> well
[05:14] <bnijk> http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-utils/trunk/gnome-screenshot/screenshot-shadow.c?view=log
[05:14] <bnijk> there's the code
[05:14] <jariep1_> hello
[05:14] <bnijk> fix it yourself ;)
[05:14] <FloodBot2> bnijk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:14] <MeditatingFrog> nanotube: I'll try printing to file.  nanotube, there is an "export directly as pdf" isn't it possible to print to a file also as an alternative method to getting the file to pdf
[05:14] <chris_lenz123> linux: your losing me?
[05:14] <jariep1_> I am looking for a wiki software that includes backlinks
[05:14] <jariep1_> anybody know of any?
[05:15] <oldude67> what program will open up .tif files?
[05:15] <linux> chris_lenz123: those are two seperate programs, try ffmpeg first then mencoder if ffmpeg doesn't work (mencoder requires mencoder -tllksdj lots of parameters after)
[05:15] <foundry87> bnijk: I'm not a very good programmer
[05:15] <bnijk> oldude67: any graphics program worth its salt
[05:15] <edbian> oldude67: .tif are just image files.
[05:15] <bnijk> foundry87: any time is a good time to start, eh?
[05:15] <prince_jammys> oldude67: any image viewer should.
[05:15] <nanotube> MeditatingFrog: yes, there is. just check the box "print to file" in the print dialog. that will create a postscript (.ps) file, which you can then convert to pdf from commandline, using the "ps2pdf" program.
[05:16] <oldude67> bnijk, edbian , prince_jammys ty
[05:16] <rymo_> if I kill Xorg are all the programs still running?
[05:16] <foundry87> bnijk: I know basic parts of some languages but I don't know what language this is in or where I'd edit the file.
[05:16] <linux> any help on a lexmark x63 scanner would be welcome: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7766497
[05:16] <MeditatingFrog> nanotube: thank you nanotube
[05:16] <chris_lenz123> linux: ill try, but i am a noob to linux, just got it
[05:16] <rymo_> like killing explorer in windows?
[05:17] <Veinor> rymo_: if you kill Xorg that will kill some programs but not others
[05:17] <nanotube> MeditatingFrog: hope that helps :)
[05:17] <Veinor> it'll kill stuff that you started when you logged in
[05:17] <Dezine> My computer has been randomly crashing. I'm sure there is a logfile, how can I monitor the computer and then read a logfile after I boot back up?
[05:17] <Veinor> as well as anything that has to do with graphics in any way
[05:17] <nanotube> Veinor: it will kill all the gui programs that you had running in that session....
[05:17] <root> hi
[05:17] <linux> chris_lenz123: try searching Applications -> Add/Remove and http://www.sourceforge.net for lists of programs
[05:17] <Veinor> right
[05:17] <Veinor> but it won't kill every process :P
[05:18] <rymo_> so is it possible to bring gui programs over to another X display?
[05:18] <Guest74061> can anybody help about Emerald theme
[05:18] <Bookman> stealth-: rtorrent works just fine.  thanks.
[05:18] <chris_lenz123> linux: trying the terminal method
[05:20] <rymo_> normally when a person clicks their user name at the top right and clicks on Guest Session, they're able to come back to all their programs, right?
[05:20] <rymo_> so how do i come back to my programs when the Guest Session just hangs?
[05:20] <WilliamC> Is it possible to flash your bios from Linux?
[05:20] <linux> rymo_: did you switch user or logout?
[05:21] <_julio_> hi there everyone
[05:21] <rymo_> linux: I clicked "Guest session" which I presume to be equal to switching users?
[05:21] <linux> rymo_: an alternative: ctrl+alt+f2 then startx -- :5, then ctrl+alt+f5
[05:21] <squarebracket> is there a startup log?
[05:22] <rymo_> linux: i was able to use startx to start another display, that's what i'm in now; but i want to reconnect to my original session that still has all my programs running
[05:22] <blognewb> how come i have 2 php.ini's? /etc/php5/cgi/php.ini /etc/php5/cli/php.ini
[05:23] <squarebracket> like the stuff that's displayed instead of usplash, is it recorded somewhere?
[05:23] <linux> rymo_: i don't know about that one, but i am interested if anyone in here knows that answer
[05:23] <bishop> joining
[05:23] <rymo_> is there no way to gently abort whatever has hung in this guest session to get it back to the login screen on that display where i assume i would be able to jump back in?
[05:23] <bishop> hey
[05:23] <prince_jammys> blognewb: second one is probably for php's command line interface, first one for cgi.
[05:23] <lstarnes> blognewb: one is for CGI (as in webserver usage), the other is for CLI (as in use as a command line interpreter)
[05:24] <thiebaude> is ubuntu written in php?
[05:24] <rymo_> linux: why the particular combo of +f2 :5 +f5?
[05:25] <rymo_> i did +f2 :1 and later +f3 :2, is that bad?
[05:25] <linux> rymo_: they give you new ttyl's (screens), i assumed that your screen there was empty
[05:25] <Veinor> thiebaude: uh, no
[05:25] <WilliamC> thiebaude, are you kidding?
[05:25] <_julio_> i have an issue, last night i installed wicd to give it a try as i've hear some kind words bout it only to stop when i realised that i couldn't use my 3g usb modem from there. since then i've removed wicd and tried to get back network manager (that somehow disapeared...) any words of hope? :P
[05:25] <linux> rymo_: you can use as many of those screens as you want without hazard
[05:26] <rymo_> if i had used startx -- :5 does that place it on the ctrl+alt+f5 screen?
[05:26] <rymo_> what i typed brought up x in-place
[05:26] <Dezine> Does Ubuntu has a crash log?
[05:26] <benjr> when i open a network share it makes an icon on my desktop but its not there when i restart, how do i make it permanant?
[05:26] <linux> rymo_: the "startx -- :5" or say 10 usually brings it on another screen; i toggle the ctrl+alt+FX to see which one usually
[05:27] <rymo_> linux: so there's not a 1-to-1 relationship between x screen number and tty number?
[05:27] <rymo_> i guess i know the default screen is :0 and it comes up on f7
[05:27] <linux> rymo_: there should be, but i don't believe so, you can try reading it maybe in the manual of screen (i don't think its in xinit or startx)
[05:28] <linux> rymo_: let me experiment, brb
[05:29] <zefyx> okay..
[05:29] <_julio_> anyone?
[05:29] <zefyx> i just installed quite a few packages i need to remove
[05:29] <zefyx> how would i go about finding out which ones i installed last, so that i may remove them.
[05:29] <linux> rymo_: "startx -- :11" brings it to F9 on my machine
[05:29] <zefyx> i tried apt-get remove build-essential libtool automake1.9 openssl libcurl3 libcurl3-devlibsigc++-2.0-0c2a libsigc++-2.0-dev libncurses5 libncurses5-dev
[05:29] <rymo_> linux: thx. here's another thing: after running startx -- :1 on the f2 screen, then ctrl+alt+f7 to check on the hung guest thing, coming back to f2 showed only the console output leading up to x... could I have gotten back into that one somehow without just ctrl+c dumping it?
[05:29] <zefyx> but its saying libcurl3-de*** isn't found, and its trying to remove half of my os as dependencies
[05:30] <Veinor> zefyx: sudo cat /var/log/apt/term.log | grep deselected
[05:30] <linux> rymo_: Let me test that theory now
[05:31] <_julio_> zefyx:in gnome you can use the history function of the package manager...
[05:31] <linux> rymo_: yes, it will kill X with signal 2 and leave a log above login (ctrl+c that is)
[05:31] <Veinor> or try ls -lrt /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
[05:32] <linux> _julio: also check synaptic to ensure the packages "network-manager" and "network-manager-gnome" are installed, also try a reinstall of those
[05:32] <chris__> I need help, all the file conversion programs i find do not work well, do any of you know a good file conversion program that can make a avi movie i have into an mp4 that will be supported for my ipod on itunes? For linux please
[05:32] <Viking667> I've got a question. Is there a "gtktalog" to be found anywhere in Ubuntu-space? I've seen katalog (the KDE version) but not the plain gtk version.
[05:33] <linux> chris__: I'll keep looking if no one else answers you before then
[05:33] <overshard> I'm trying to delete a rule i made in ufw and it is not working
[05:33] <rymo_> linux: i had working x on f2 (still logged on as "rymo" from that one) - i checked f7 and when i came back to f2 i was looking at a still-running x but in console (that is, no windows but just the last output lines before, and not back at prompt)
[05:33] <overshard> sudo ufw delete <whatever rule> and it just pulls up the list of commands like delete doesn't exist
[05:33] <bishop> ? for ops   is there any way to verify my ip address  even by private message. ip should be roadrunner nys ?
[05:33] <rymo_> i'm not sure how to describe it better :(
[05:34] <gvsa123> i got the following error while importing images from my camera (canon xsi) http://paste.ubuntu.com/251167/
[05:34] <syntax> Can you create commands in ubuntu linux?
[05:34] <rww> bishop: do /whois bishop
[05:34] <ziroday> bishop: you can do /whois <persons nick>
[05:34] <linux> chris__: what about this one: http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=225701 ?
[05:34] <Veinor> syntax: you mean like an alias?
[05:34] <nanotube> bishop: your whois shows<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:34] <Veinor> or shell scripting?
[05:35] <syntax> like you know we do sudo "get-apt" install program
[05:35] <linux> rymo_: that would probably mean you didn't kill it, try a ctrl+shift+FX to go above F12 if your computer supports that
[05:35] <syntax> could we make our own command like that
[05:35] <bishop> possible hijack. can not stay long...thanks
[05:35] <rymo_> ah! suddenly it clicks, thank you
[05:35] <Veinor> syntax: Yeah, you can make your own programs
[05:35] <chris__> linux: if it can convert my video it will work, how do i download it
[05:36] <linux> chris__: for 32-bit processors http://sourceforge.net/projects/mvpod/files/mvpod/0.1%20alpha2/mvPod-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz/download then download, tar -xvf *.gz && cd mvPod* && ./configure && make && sudo make install
[05:37] <bishop> time for another pc. do not have the money
[05:37] <stlsaint> has itunes became more compatible with jaunty yet?
[05:37] <bishop> thanks guys
[05:37] <fsufitch> hey, i'm trying to upgrade my server from 8.04 to 8.10, but "sudo do-release-upgrade" tells me there's no new release... how do i get it to realize it's a year out of date?
[05:37] <bishop> later
[05:38] <chris__> linux: i have first link, few files pop up, whats you mean by second part
[05:38] <rww> fsufitch: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set "Prompt=normal", per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades
[05:38] <fsufitch> rww, thanks i'll try that
[05:39] <vrakesh> any1 here
[05:40] <linux> chris__: those are the operations to extract and install
[05:40] <nanotube> !hi | vrakesh
[05:40] <legend2440> fsufitch:  does   gksudo update-manager -d  work?
[05:41] <chris__> linux: so...? im confused with computers.  what do i do next?
[05:41] <fsufitch> legend2440: rww's solution worked
[05:41] <rww> legend2440: -d is to upgrade to development releases, not to do 8.04>8.10
[05:41] <linux> chris__: ok you downloaded the file, then you go to applications, accessories, terminal
[05:41] <legend2440> rww: oh ok
[05:41] <fsufitch> legend2440: and this is a terminal-only server access, i can't have gksudo ;)
[05:41] <rymo_> is there a keyboard shortcut to force the user switch window to appear?
[05:43] <linux> rymo_: not that I know of, but fg and bg work for individual processes, it might work for xinit?
[05:43] <vrakesh> howw to install ubuntu in windows
[05:43] <chris__> linux: terminal is up
[05:43] <rww> vrakesh: do you have an Ubuntu CD already?
[05:43] <vrakesh> yeah
[05:43] <rymo_> linux: you mean try bg the hung xinit?
[05:43] <vrakesh> i tried wubi also
[05:44] <rymo_> (is that what's hung?)
[05:44] <nanotube> vrakesh: so you want to install it /inside/ windows? as in, so you can run both at the same time?
[05:44] <vrakesh> but i cant run it inside windos
[05:44] <vrakesh> nanotube:s
[05:44] <linux> rymo_: its a far out suggestion, but the only i can think of (xinit is usually running, but startx is just the script for xinit)
[05:45] <stlsaint> any success with itunes in ubuntu
[05:45] <nanotube> vrakesh: try this, then: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox
[05:45] <nanotube> vrakesh: you are looking for virtualbox.
[05:45] <vrakesh> in virtualbox i didnt get fullscreen
[05:45] <dsnyders> Hi all.  Why do I get an error on: find . -iname *pdf -print
[05:45] <thiebaude> !wine
[05:45] <rww> vrakesh: if you install the Guest Additions for virtualbox, you should be able to get full screen. The people in #vbox can help with that.
[05:45] <chris__> linux: ? terminal?
[05:45] <nanotube> dsnyders: depends on what kind of error you get :)
[05:46] <linux> chris__: terminal
[05:46] <zefyx> anyway to make apitude uninstall say, all packages i installed within the last 2-3 hours
[05:46] <q0_0p> how do i retrieve my tomboy notes from applet?  i have a tar backup of my system elsewhere and i dont want to reboot it up again?
[05:46] <vrakesh> rww:thnx
[05:46] <dsnyders> nanotube, The error is-  find: paths must precede expression
[05:46] <nanotube> q0_0p: it's somewhere in ~/.tomboy , probably ?
[05:46] <chris__> linux: you told me to bring up terminal, what do i do with it?
[05:47] <edbian> zefyx: You'd have to look at the log and figure out witch packages actually have been installed in the last 2-3 hours manually (or just remember) and then give the command to remove them.
[05:47] <prince_jammys> dsnyders: quote the glob you give to find, because there's pdf files in your current dir.
[05:47] <q0_0p> i will look thx
[05:47] <prince_jammys> dsnyders: '*.pdf' <-quoted
[05:47] <rww> zefyx: that log is at /var/log/apt/term.log (you'll need to do sudo nano or gksudo gedit to view it).
[05:47] <zefyx> thanks
[05:47] <prince_jammys> dsnyders: else the shell expands *.pdf before running find.
[05:47] <vrakesh> where do i get tadditionshe guest
[05:47] <q0_0p> nanotube, thx i will try
[05:47] <nanotube> q0_0p: yea, they're there, i just checked :)
[05:48] <dsnyders> prince_jammys, I was just about to ask if that was what was happening.
[05:48] <vrakesh> where do i get the guest additions for virtual box
[05:48] <linux> chris__: find where the file downloaded using cd and ls, then when you see it, "tar -xvf *.tar.gz", then cd into the folder, "./configure && make && sudo make install"
[05:48] <prince_jammys> dsnyders: globs are normally not quoted, but in the case of find command, they are, because they have to be processed by find.
[05:48] <nanotube> vrakesh: once virtualbox is open and booted to windows, should find it in the menu. something like (tools -> install guest additions)
[05:49] <Andorin> It has been nearly a month since I started asking for help on this problem. I would very much appreciate some assistance. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1214508
[05:49] <vrakesh> thnx
[05:50] <cbcbilling> hello all
[05:50] <dsnyders> prince_jammys, Thanks.  quoting it fixed the "problem"
[05:50] <prince_jammys> dsnyders: welcome
[05:50] <rymo_> so what good is ctrl+alt+backspace if it kills the gui programs and not just x ?
[05:50] <cbcbilling> is there any updates for firefox 3.5 for hardy
[05:50] <cbcbilling> firefox 3..13 sucks
[05:50] <rww> !ff35 | cbcbilling
[05:50] <nanotube> cbcbilling: look here: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:50] <cbcbilling> alot of error that i encountered when browsing
[05:50] <stlsaint> vrakesh: when you start your vm look up top and you will see a devices tap...click there and at the bottom of the dropdown!!!
[05:51] <rymo_> on windows i can kill explorer.exe and all other programs keep running while windows re-sorts itself -- is there no linux equivalent?
[05:51] <sond> howdy
[05:51] <nanotube> rymo_: sure, you can kill nautilus, you can kill gnome-panel, and all that
[05:51] <edbian> Andorin: Are you running compiz?
[05:51] <linux> chris__: i have to head out, to run the program from terminal, cd into the directory untared and ./program-name ("ls" should help you find program-name)
[05:51] <rymo_> nanotube: tell me more!
[05:51] <chris__> linux: are you trying to tell me to type cd , and whats in both brackets?
[05:51] <stlsaint> and yes installing the vm addons will enable full screen along with mouse integration!!
[05:51] <burkmat> !hi | cbcbilling
[05:52] <nanotube> rymo_: just run "killall gnome-panel" or "killall nautilus" from a terminal....
[05:52] <stlsaint> rymo: ever hear of the killall cmd
[05:52] <Andorin> edbian: I have a vague idea of what compiz is, but I don't know how to check whether I'm running it, using it, have accidentally configured it, etc. =/
[05:52] <rymo_> and i won't lose gui programs?
[05:52] <linux> chris__: "cd" lets you move around linux, "ls" shows you where you are
[05:52] <nanotube> rymo_: nope
[05:52] <edbian> Andorin: Do your windows wobble?  Does "compiz" show up in the output of "ps -e" ??
[05:52] <cbcbilling> whoah still no updates yet
[05:52] <cbcbilling> damn
[05:52] <nanotube> rymo_: as long as you don't kill X itself, all your programl will still run.
[05:53] <stlsaint> uh...nanotube hope you have experience in that area!!
[05:53] <nanotube> cbcbilling: try also http://ubuntuzilla.sourceforge.net
[05:53] <sond> i have a cloned disk that will only boot read only - what should i do to it ?
[05:53] <rymo_> how can i tell which process to kill to get rid of this white screen staring at me on tty7 ?
[05:53] <chris__> linux: well i dont understand, im new. This is like trying to do grade 12 math when your in grade 1?
[05:53] <Andorin> edbian: "Do your windows wobble?" may be the best question I have heard all week.
[05:53] <edbian> Andorin: lol
[05:53] <linux> chris__: Im not upset, just strapped for time
[05:53] <nanotube> stlsaint: indeed - i've killed gnome-panel and nautilus with no ill effects to other programs :)
[05:53] <stlsaint> WOBBLY WINDOWS...gotta lovem
[05:53] <Thibit> Does anyone have experience with the Trackpoint, 9.04, and easystroke?
[05:53] <Andorin> edbian: It's a rather long list, but I don't believe I see it.
[05:53] <edbian> Andorin: PM me :)
[05:54] <linux> chris__: I have to head out, but try to read the manual inside of the tar (most programs come with it)...best of luck, other people in here might know if you vary the times you enter irc
[05:54] <Thibit> I'm having an issue with getting the gestures to be recognized
[05:54] <rymo_> ps -AL shows only Xorg with tty7 next to it
[05:54] <stlsaint> nanotube: why may i ask would you require to kill nautilus? or panel?
[05:54] <cbcbilling> nanotube: so this ubnutuzilla works ith no hassle
[05:54] <nanotube> cbcbilling: indeed it does. and if something is not to your liking, it has auto-uninstall too.
[05:54] <stlsaint> chris: how may the ubuntu community assist you?
[05:54] <rymo_> stlsaint: killing nautilus does seem to me to be equiv to killing explorer.exe on windows (rare need)
[05:55] <nanotube> stlsaint: when panel hangs, or nautilus hangs.
[05:55] <cbcbilling> nanotube: ww
[05:55] <chris__> I need help, all the file conversion programs i find do not work well, do any of you know a good file conversion program that can make a avi movie i have into an mp4 that will be supported for my ipod on itunes?
[05:55] <cbcbilling> nanotube: wow
[05:55] <stlsaint> nanotube: true true...but using the kill cmd how would you get them back?
[05:55] <nanotube> cbcbilling: give it a try. are you on 32bit or 64bit ubunut?
[05:55] <nanotube> stlsaint: by default, killall sends a "restart" signal, rather than a kill signal, so they restart automatically.
[05:56] <stlsaint> nice
[05:56] <slimjimflim> hi i just did a dual boot install w/ vista...installed vista first then jaunty...but now linux only has about 3 gb even though i originally gave it about 150gb...anybody familiar with this issue?
[05:56] <cbcbilling> nanotube: my queston is do this browser has no issues with java and flash?
[05:56] <nanotube> stlsaint: if they are really hung and you have to really kill, just run "gnome-panel &" and "nautilus &" from a treminal, to restart.
[05:56] <stlsaint> hey chris...need some specs...are you in ubuntu using a vm or are you in windows?!!
[05:56] <cbcbilling> nanotube: is it also for hardy
[05:56] <nanotube> cbcbilling: if you are on 32bit, no issues at all, all your plugins will work without any changes. if on 64bit, you have to fiddle around a little to get them working. (see the ubuntuzila faq for 64bit users)
[05:56] <dsnyders> slimjimflim, have you mounted everything?
[05:56] <chris__> stlsaint: im using linux
[05:57] <slimjimflim> dsnyders, yea
[05:57] <nanotube> cbcbilling: hardy should be just fine.
[05:57] <chris__> stlsaint: dual boot
[05:57] <cbcbilling> nanotube: im using 32 bit.....
[05:57] <stlsaint> nano: yes i perfer that over kill but since you have more xp i trust you know more than me!! thanks for the info!!
[05:57] <Pitch> In ubuntu, when i click on places menu in panel, all windows partitions are opend. which file is controllig this behaviour, or can i edit places menu. I don't want all of the windows partitions to be listed
[05:57] <cbcbilling> nanotube: thanks alot...
[05:57] <nanotube> cbcbilling: then you should be just fine :)
[05:57] <stlsaint> chris:k state your issue again?
[05:57] <chris__> I need help, all the file conversion programs i find do not work well, do any of you know a good file conversion program that can make a avi movie i have into an mp4 that will be supported for my ipod on itunes?
[05:57] <vrakesh> what essential packages has to be installed aftr installin ubuntu
[05:57] <cbcbilling> nanotube: ill try it now
[05:57] <nanotube> cbcbilling: no prob - give it a try, if anything goes wrong just post in the ubuntuzilla support forums (or ask me here if i'm still awake) :)
[05:58] <nanotube> vrakesh: everything "essential" is installed by default. anything extra you install depends on what you need.
[05:59] <z3ro3x> I managed to setup OpenVPN so my brother's laptop will connect to me from any where and any time so it's easy to admin his system when he needs help.  My only issue is this.    I used Starup-Manager to change the splash screen so that I can see boot process.  It pauses for a long time on I think it was called Configuring Network Interfaces.  Every thing works fine
[05:59] <z3ro3x> .  It just causes a slow as hell boot and I was wondering how can I fix the boot time?
[05:59] <cbcbilling> nanotube: damn it says its only for jaunty... imusing hardy
[05:59] <stlsaint> chris: check out soundKonverter
[06:00] <nanotube> cbcbilling: what says it's only for jaunty? if you try to install the .deb, it refuses?
[06:00] <stlsaint> im using ubuntu...chris what are you using
[06:01] <dsnyders> slimjimflim, I'm drawing a blank, unless it's a mount issue, or possibly a drive recognition problem.
[06:02] <Pitch> editing fstab won't help
[06:02] <vrakesh> how to access files in linux from windows
[06:02] <vrakesh> both are on two differet comps
[06:02] <nanotube> cbcbilling: i'm running it just fine on intrepid right now, no problems.... could you tell me what exactly you're seeing that says it's for jaunty only?
[06:02] <nanotube> vrakesh: easiest way is ssh.
[06:02] <Pitch> vrakesh: you need to set up samba, ftp, or http server in linux
[06:02] <chris__> stlsaint: how do i ... install this program on this website?
[06:02] <vrakesh> linux and windows
[06:03] <vrakesh> there is no ssh in windows
[06:03] <Veinor> WinSCP
[06:03] <Veinor> PuTTY
[06:03] <Pitch> vrakesh: you can try putty
[06:03] <nanotube> vrakesh: set up openssh-server on linux, then use winscp client on windows.
[06:03] <Veinor> WinSCP to copy files, PuTTY for an actual ssh session
[06:03] <cbcbilling> nanotube: my mistake i read the wrong blog... lol wat an idiot
[06:03] <cbcbilling> nanotube: :))
[06:03] <ghostdad> I want to setup ubuntu to use multiple partitions.  What is a reasonable size for the / partition? I don't want to run out of space on that, but I don't want there to be a ton of unused space on it either.
[06:03] <Thibit> Does anyone have experience with the Trackpoint, 9.04, and easystroke? I'm having an issue with getting the gestures to be recognized.
[06:03] <Pitch> vrakesh: if you just want file sharing you can use samba server
[06:04] <Veinor> ghostdad: how big is your HD, and what are you going to be doing on the computer?
[06:04] <nanotube> cbcbilling: don't read blogs - read the ubuntuzilla website - it has all the instructions and everything :)
[06:04] <ghostdad> Veinor: It's a 150gb hard drive and it will mostly just be used as a file server
[06:04] <Veinor> you can probably get away with 10-15 GB for /
[06:04] <vrakesh> pitch: itried
[06:04] <Veinor> and that's erring on the safe side
[06:04] <vrakesh> it didnt work
[06:04] <Pitch> can anyone tell how to edit places menu in ubuntu ?
[06:04] <vrakesh> modified config file also
[06:05] <ghostdad> veinor: will that be comfortable though? how large is a default ubuntu installation?
[06:05] <nanotube> ghostdad: 10g for / should be plenty.
[06:05] <dsnyders> Veinor,  There is also a part of the PuTTY suite called pscp for copying files.
[06:05] <nanotube> ghostdad: default ubuntu install is only 3-4g
[06:05] <ghostdad> ah okay
[06:05] <ghostdad> thanks
[06:05] <nanotube> ghostdad: there's no way you'll install 6g of packages :)
[06:05] <ghostdad> right
[06:05] <megamanx1978> I lost my toolbar in the xfce window manager how do I get it back?
[06:05] <mrproper> I hit a key on accident and the colors on my X11 display inversed . Can someone tell me what do to get it back to normal?
[06:05] <geneticx> hello everyone. I'm having really slow downloads in my ubuntu box, i've noticed ssh is very slow also..what could be wrong?
[06:05] <Veinor> yeah, the only way you'd do that would be if you were doing development and needed -dev packages
[06:05] <Veinor> mrproper: are you using compiz?
[06:06] <mrproper> Veinor: Yes
[06:06] <Veinor> windows key and n at the same time
[06:06] <Veinor> er, m
[06:06] <mrproper> Veinor: that only does one window, not all them
[06:06] <Veinor> do m then
[06:06] <geneticx> I have another computer on the network and I tested by downloading two exact files from the internet and one was done at 172kbps the other (ubuntu) at 23 kbps
[06:06] <Veinor> n swaps one window, m swaps them all
[06:06] <mrproper> Veinor: How can I disable that?
[06:06] <nanotube> geneticx: are you on wireless on that comp?
[06:07] <geneticx> nanotube: no
[06:07] <ghostdad> also if i buy a second (larger) hard drive, will i be able to reassign that as the /home directory?
[06:07] <Veinor> mrproper: install the package compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:07] <cbcbilling> nanotube: yeah, am just really excited with it... lol
[06:07] <ghostdad> er, /home partition
[06:07] <nanotube> ghostdad: yes you will
[06:07] <Bookman> Is there a way to tell what kind of ram my laptop has?
[06:07] <Veinor> ghostdad: yes
[06:07] <ghostdad> ok thanks
[06:07] <mrproper> Veinor: Got it, thanks for your help!
[06:07] <nanotube> cbcbilling: ;) so, any success with ff3.5 install yet? :)
[06:07] <Veinor> mrproper: no problem, just disable the Negative plugin
[06:07] <megamanx1978> Can anyone help me with my xfce problem?
[06:07] <cattellar> how can i own an ext3 partition im mounting in /media/drive ?  I tried sudo chown michael.users /media/drive   but it didn't work
[06:08] <cbcbilling> nanotube: not yet still downloading.... wat a slow internet connection
[06:08] <cbcbilling> nanotube: errrrrrrr
[06:08] <Pitch> which file is controlling places menu in gnome ?
[06:08] <Veinor> cattellar: did you try sudo chown michael:michael /media/drive ?
[06:08] <rww> cattellar: 1) you probably want chown -R, 2) make sure you're doing it after mounting the partition.
[06:08] <Veinor> Pitch: use alacarte
[06:08] <vrakesh> pitch: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:09] <cattellar> Veinor, rww , thanks, let me see
[06:09] <Veinor> oh wait, the places menu
[06:09] <Veinor> hm
[06:09] <Veinor> ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[06:10] <supa> Hello, everyone
[06:10] <Veinor> you can customize the displayed name by putting it after the file, like file:///tmp Temporary Folder
[06:11] <Pitch> Veinor: using alacarte, you  can only edit Application and System menu not Places
[06:11] <cattellar> Veinor, rww , thank you both, i fixed it
[06:11] <Veinor> Pitch: edit the ~/.gtk-bookmarks file
[06:11] <supa> I've been trying to get vuze to run at bootup for like three hours now. does anyone know an easy way to run a command at boot-up?
[06:12] <Veinor> supa: did you try Startup Applications under system->preferences?
[06:12] <edbian> supa: At bootup or at login?
[06:12] <supa> no, i want it to run  before the gnome session
[06:12] <supa> it's a headless server
[06:13] <cbcbilling> nanotube: whoah still no luck downloading it
[06:13] <Pitch> Veinor: can you please tell me the path of .gtk-bookmarks, /home/pitch does not contain any such file
[06:13] <Polarina> I just installed apache2 and the directives DefaultType and ForceType do not work in a .htaccess file or in the configuration files. Why?
[06:13] <vrakesh> pitch: its hidden
[06:13] <Veinor> it doesn't? that's odd
[06:13] <dsnyders> supa, You need to place an entry in /etc/init.d
[06:13] <Veinor> oh, yeah, it's hidden
[06:14] <Veinor> run gedit ~/.gtk-bookmarks in a terminal, it's there
[06:14] <supa> well, i've tried that - although admittedly i don't know what i'm doing.
[06:14] <Veinor> I promise :D
[06:14] <nanotube> cbcbilling: downloading the ubuntuzilla .deb? or downloading the firefox archive during the install process?
[06:14] <megamanx1978> Anyone here use xfce?
[06:14] <cbcbilling> nanotube: thee .debinstaller
[06:14] <Veinor> megamanx1978: try #xubuntu
[06:15] <edbian> supa: http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[06:15] <nanotube> cbcbilling: strange - it's only like 20k, should come through almost instantly...
[06:15] <nanotube> cbcbilling: maybe sourceforge is having problems with the file release servers again...
[06:15] <cbcbilling> nanotube: ok by now
[06:16] <megamanx1978> I am using ultimate edition with xfce and my xfce has a issue
[06:16] <cbcbilling> nanotube: i think ff3.0.13 has problem
[06:16] <nanotube> cbcbilling: you could get it from commandline... open a terminal, cd to Desktop, and run "wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/ubuntuzilla/4.7.4/ubuntuzilla-4.7.4-0ubuntu1-i386.deb" to get the .deb :)
[06:16] <Pitch> Veinor: yes, but it contains only Documents, Pitctures, Music, Video and Dowload,
[06:16] <Veinor> What're you trying to do then?
[06:17] <nanotube> cbcbilling: but... if you have such severe problems with ff3, maybe you could try cleaning out your profile?
[06:17] <Pitch> Veinor: I have two ntfs partition in my system, when i login all these partions are listed in places menu
[06:18] <Pitch> Veinor:  I just dont want them to be displayes
[06:18] <nanotube> Pitch: open nautilus, go to edit -> preferences, check the checkbox that says "show hidden files"
[06:18] <Veinor> Hm
[06:18] <ce_sexy> hy
[06:18] <cbcbilling> nanotube: i now finshed installing .deb ff3.5
[06:18] <Veinor> Well the one way to do this is to not have them automount
[06:18] <cbcbilling> nanotube: nothing happened
[06:19] <nanotube> cbcbilling: ubuntuzilla is an installer. use it to install ff 3.5.
[06:19] <nanotube> cbcbilling: (make sure to exit firefox first)
[06:19] <Pitch> Veinor: how to disabe automount ?
[06:19] <cbcbilling> nanotube: already did
[06:19] <nanotube> cbcbilling: then run "ubuntuzilla.py" to install firefox, and follow the prompts.
[06:19] <Veinor> well, first unmount them
[06:20] <cbcbilling> nanotube: done
[06:20] <NetAnnoysMe> What's the name of the tool I can use to show a graph of pings? like a traceroute that graphs quailty
[06:20] <nanotube> cbcbilling: so, is the installer doing it's thing? :)
[06:20] <NetAnnoysMe> I forgot it's name
[06:20] <Viking667> cactus?
[06:20] <Viking667> possibly
[06:20] <cbcbilling> nanotube: working by now
[06:21] <nanotube> cbcbilling: cool
[06:21] <nanotube> NetAnnoysMe: wireshark?
[06:21] <cbcbilling> i copy andpastee this code ubuntuzilla.py -a install -p firefox
[06:21] <NetAnnoysMe> nanotube: no - it's a cli app and wireshark doesn't do that
[06:21] <nanotube> cbcbilling: right
[06:22] <cbcbilling> nanotube: waiting for it by now
[06:22] <cbcbilling> nanotube: ff3.0.13 really sucks
[06:22] <nanotube> cbcbilling: what's it doing now? downloading firefox?
[06:22] <NetAnnoysMe> nanotube: just foind the answer - it's mtr
[06:22] <nanotube> cbcbilling: heh
[06:22] <cbcbilling> nanotube: ff3.0.12 is much better to use
[06:23] <nanotube> NetAnnoysMe: hm, cool, i'll try it - never heard of it. :)
[06:23] <cbcbilling> Process returned code 2
[06:23] <cbcbilling> Importing Mozilla Software Releases public key
[06:23] <cbcbilling> Note that if you have never used gpg before on this system, and this is your first time running this script, there may be a delay of about a minute during the generation of a gpg keypair. This is normal and expected behavior.
[06:23] <cbcbilling> gpg: requesting key 0E3606D9 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
[06:23] <cbcbilling> gpg: requesting key 812347DD from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
[06:23] <FloodBot2> cbcbilling: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:23] <lowlycoder> where's the guide for sound on macbook pro?
[06:23] <cbcbilling> nanotube: thats the last thing i see
[06:24] <nanotube> cbcbilling: paste the complete output into a pastebin
[06:24] <cbcbilling> nanotube: ill try it by now
[06:25] <cbcbilling> nanotube: wow! cool
[06:25] <nanotube> cbcbilling: ?
[06:25] <supa> edbian, i have tried this, but it will not launch
[06:25] <dsnyders> NetAnnoysMe, mtr is sweet.
[06:25] <Viking667> ohh, mtr. Yep, that's a good program.
[06:26] <cbcbilling> nanotube: i just updated my firefox
[06:26] <Viking667> ... cept it doesn't "graph" results, or not as I've seen.
[06:26] <nanotube> cbcbilling: excellent :)
[06:26] <cbcbilling> nanotube: GOD BLESS US ALL
[06:26] <nanotube> cbcbilling: lol
[06:26] <edbian> supa: Is it executable?
[06:27] <supa> yeah, i can run it in the terminal and it will launch
[06:27] <spO> are bzr codes and packages held on user local machines, or are they held on launchpad's servers?  because PPA is fast but some of my bzr downloads are slow
[06:27] <Brando753> is there a way to sync the data on my two laptops on Korganizor
[06:27] <edbian> supa: Can root run it?  init runs things as root
[06:27] <nanotube> cbcbilling: well, now that it all worked out, i think i'll get some sleep :)
[06:27] <supa> how would I check? sudo?
[06:28] <edbian> yeah
[06:28] <edbian> or su
[06:28] <supa> nope, it can't.
[06:28] <supa> what can i do? can i run it as a user or something?
[06:28] <edbian> supa: You can change the permissions to allow root to run it.
[06:29] <edbian> supa: "sudo chmod +x <file>" will make it executable by all users.
[06:29] <cbcbilling> nanotube: THANK YOU for the BIG HELP... ff3.5 is really damn fast
[06:29] <edbian> cbcbilling: Is it a lot faster than ff3.0 on ubuntu?
[06:30] <Pitch> can anyone tell me how can I disable automount in gnome ? and only root should  be able to mount other ntfs partitions
[06:30] <cbcbilling> edbian: yeah is really damn fast
[06:30] <nanotube> cbcbilling: great to hear. enjoy :)
[06:30] <cbcbilling> nanotube: GOD BLESS the INTERNET
[06:31] <edbian> cbcbilling: Nice! :)
[06:31] <nanotube> edbian: in my experience, it is much faster in rendering pages and all that stuff. there are also benchmarks that show it being "twice as fast" as ff3, though i'm not sure if it really is "twice as fast", it is noticeably faster.
[06:31] <nanotube> cbcbilling: hehe indeed
[06:31] <edbian> nice :)
[06:31] <edbian> I'm excited to try it on debian!
[06:32] <cbcbilling> nanotube: last two days after upgrading my ff to ff3.0.13 i really have a hard time browsing
[06:32] <cbcbilling> and as i try to see the error console of ff... damn theres to many error
[06:32] <nanotube> cbcbilling: heh
[06:33] <cbcbilling> nanotube: thank you for the help.....
[06:34] <nanotube> cbcbilling: you are quite welcome. :)
[06:34] <WilliamC> Can you flash a bios in Ubunutu?
[06:34] <edbian> WilliamC: You cannot flash a bios while any OS is running.
[06:35] <WilliamC> edbian, I know, but a lot of the utilities only run in Windows.
[06:35] <Bingo_NZ> How can i flash a Bios ? please ?
[06:35] <cbcbilling> nanotube: my friend told me to go back to MICROSUCK OS... because i cant browse well... he is convincing me but i dont want to go back for that crap OS
[06:35] <manish> edbian: good monring
[06:35] <edbian> manish: What up?!
[06:35] <manish> I'm fine
[06:36] <WilliamC> XP doesn't have to suck if you know what you're doing.
[06:36] <WilliamC> I've been running XP for months on end.
[06:36] <manish> edbian: I am getting GPG Error when I update from Synaptic Update Manager It says BAD Sign
[06:36] <nanotube> cbcbilling: hehe well, there are some legitimate reasons to stick with win, e.g., gaming, photoshop, autocad.... but browsing the web isn't one of them. :)
[06:36] <Bingo_NZ> I need to install windows ....it says the harddisk is not dectected...but in the same system i installed linux now.
[06:36] <Bingo_NZ> what to do ?
[06:36] <Guest2549> how would I install the C plugin for eclipse?
[06:36] <edbian> manish: ?  That's odd.  Try switching servers in System -> Admin -> Software sources
[06:36] <cbcbilling> nanotube: you are really right....
[06:36] <nanotube> WilliamC: it's a 6 year old OS - most of us have run it for years on end. :)
[06:37] <edbian> Bingo_NZ: windows does not see ext3 file systems
[06:37] <cbcbilling> nanotube: i do always to catch some network work using ff on xp
[06:37] <manish> edbian: ok trying
[06:37] <WilliamC> nanotube, I meant without turning off my laptop.
[06:37] <nanotube> WilliamC: before coming over to the dark side. err, i mean, light side. :)
[06:37] <WilliamC> I'm running Ubuntu on another computer.
[06:37] <cbcbilling> nanotube: the file is jvqms.vmx i think
[06:37] <Bingo_NZ> I know that...thats y i am trying to flush the flash memory...but i dont know how to do that....
[06:37] <Bingo_NZ> some one hlep me plz
[06:38] <nanotube> WilliamC: ah yea, i've done that too - all hail the "suspend" feature :)
[06:38] <Pitch> ok, you should not allow anyone to use your ubuntu if you have any confidential documents in your ntfs windowsxp partition
[06:39] <nanotube> WilliamC: but now whenever i go back to windows, i feel like a fish out of water. no "focus follows mouse" ? no terminal? no multiple desktops? wtfsck is up with that? :)
[06:39] <Veinor> nanotube: no gnome-do
[06:39] <Veinor> Pitch: oh, sorry
[06:39] <Veinor> first unmount the partitions
[06:39] <Veinor> then edit /etc/fstab as root
[06:40] <WilliamC> Do games run in WINE faster than they would in native Windows?
[06:40] <nanotube> Veinor: hmm, never used that... what's that do?
[06:40] <nanotube> WilliamC: probably not....
[06:40] <Veinor> quick program launching
[06:40] <cbcbilling> linux reminds of cisco OS
[06:40] <cbcbilling> lol
[06:40] <nanotube> Veinor: like, "alt-f2" ?
[06:40] <Veinor> yeah, but you don't have to type the full name out :P
[06:41] <Veinor> plus you can do other stuff with it, like open ssh/vnc connections
[06:41] <WilliamC> nanotube, on top of that I'm having issues mounting a NTFS USB drive in Linux.
[06:41] <nanotube> Veinor: at my typing speed, i'd rather type than mouseclick. :) besides, alt-f2 also autofills, so you don't have to type it all out.
[06:41] <Veinor> nanotube: gnome-do is keyboard-launched, though
[06:41] <Veinor> I have it on meta-space
[06:41] <nanotube> Veinor: hmm... i'll give it a look at some point - sounds interesting. :)
[06:42] <Loafers> Why am I unable to move a 4.4 GB File onto my 100 GB External HD formatted as FAT 32?
[06:42] <Veinor> it's cool :D
[06:42] <lstarnes> Loafers: doesn't FAT 32 have a file size limit?
[06:42] <nanotube> WilliamC: good thing i don't have to mount ntfs drives on my linux. :)
[06:42] <Pitch> Veinor: done both, fstab does not have any mention about /media/WinXP
[06:42] <Viking667> it does - about 2GB if I remember correctly
[06:42] <Veinor> Loafers: Because the FAT32 filesize is 4 GB - 1 byte
[06:42] <nanotube> lstarnes: Loafers: indeed, it does, max size is 4g
[06:42] <Veinor> Pitch: odd, it shouldn't auto-mount it then
[06:42] <nanotube> or was that 2g?
[06:43] <Loafers> Veinor, What should I do then?  GParted won't let me format it as NTFS...
[06:43] <Veinor> Loafers: it won't?
[06:43] <Veinor> is ntfs-3g installed?
[06:43] <Loafers> Veinor, The option is greyed out.
[06:43] <Xerran> edbian: actually you can flash a BIOS from within an OS but I'm not sure about Linux
[06:43] <nanotube> WilliamC: haven't had reason to mount anything ntfs in years... but my understanding is that ntfs3g has gotten that down by now...
[06:44] <Veinor> if the package ntfs-3g isn't installed on your computer, do that and then try
[06:44] <Xerran> it's unsafe anyway
[06:44] <lowlycoder> how can i play mid files on ubuntu?
[06:44] <Loafers> Veinor, ntfs-3g 2009.2.1 external FUSE 27 - Third Generation NTFS Driver  Yeah its installed
[06:44] <nanotube> Loafers: try "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfsprogs", then gparted again.
[06:44] <Veinor> Oh yeah
[06:44] <Veinor> ntfsprogs
[06:44] <Loafers> nanotube, ok thanks
[06:44] <Pitch> Veinor: it is controlled by gnome gvfs deamon, not by fstab, but I don't know which file it is reading before mounting the partitions
[06:45] <Veinor> I dunno, then
[06:45] <Veinor> :/
[06:45] <nanotube> lowlycoder: hrmm... try searching in synaptic, by description and name, for 'midi', i bet you'll come up with something.
[06:46] <greyz`> i am using ubuntu 9.04 and when i tried 'amarok 2.02 KDE' there was no sound, so I followed the advise here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+question/67045  -- by installing those 4 packages mentioned in the second post.  So now I have audio working for amarok2, just not anything else. :(
[06:46] <stealth-> I set the environment variable SDL_AUDIODRIVER=alsa to make a game sound work, but unfortunately I get a "No available audio device" unless running the program as root. The program uses a SDL mixer. Any help?
[06:47] <manish> when I type in chat it gives sound in every key dipresession how to stop it
[06:47] <snoopy> suppp
[06:47] <snoopy> |:
[06:48] <greyz`> hello snoopy :D
[06:48] <corpxicle> why does it seem like this laptop is slower than shit these days ?
[06:48] <corpxicle> running ubuntu 9.04 on a dual core with 4gb ram
[06:48] <snoopy> wasup greyz  8D
[06:48] <manish> when I type in chat it gives sound in every key dipresession how to stop it
[06:48] <corpxicle> maybe i should change to another browser
[06:48] <xim_> can someon help me figure out how to manipulate my gnome menues throught the terminal?  is there a hidden directory tree somehwere?
[06:49] <corpxicle> manish: any particular app youre using ?
[06:49] <SunStealer> hmm, anyone use xev or other utilities to find and map multi-key mouses?
[06:49] <william> I'm on twice with two different PCs
[06:49] <william> nyah
[06:49] <manish> corpxicle: I am chatting from Gnome-Xchat
[06:49] <corpxicle> manish: have you tried looking in "options" or "preferences" or whatever it might be called
[06:49] <corpxicle> i dont use the gnome version of xchat myself
[06:50] <corpxicle> i use real xchat
[06:50] <manish> corpxicle: it started suddenly
[06:50] <SunStealer> I want to find a way to map two buttons on my logitech mouse to alt and control, so that my wow-addiction can continue under linux
[06:50] <sond> heyas -- ive got a drive that no-matter what i have tried so far will only mount read only -- what should i look out for ?
[06:50] <manish> edbian: when I type in chat it gives sound in every key dipresession how to stop it
[06:50] <myself> what are commands to type to get some badass unicode fonts so i can see the faces my anime friends post
[06:50] <L1nUX1z3R> sond, does it mount automatically?
[06:51] <corpxicle> manish: have you tried looking in "options" or "preferences" or whatever it might be called ?
[06:51] <manish> corpxicle: ok checking
[06:51] <snoopy> sooo
[06:51] <l00t>  /s ns1.thugempire.net +7000
[06:52] <Loafers> How unstable is jaunty-backports?
[06:52] <myself> yo!!! where do i get unicode fonts!!!
[06:52] <manish> corpxicle: there is no such setting
[06:53] <corpxicle> manish: then i guess its not xchat making the sound
[06:53] <lowlycoder> why is timidity -Ov so slow?
[06:53] <sond> L1nUX1z3R: its a root drive and it will boot on its own, but only readonly , when i try to mount from another functioning system i still can only get readonly..
[06:53] <lowlycoder> why is timidity -Ov so slow? (takes a few seconds to convert a minute midi song)
[06:53] <WilliamC2> Because you touch yourself at night.:P
[06:54] <corpxicle> lowlycoder: what are you comparing too ?
[06:54] <corpxicle> -o
[06:54] <L1nUX1z3R> sond, check your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:55] <lowlycoder> corpxicle: it just seems like it should be much much faster on a modern machine ....
[06:55] <manish> corpxicle: after I stopped & started gnome-xchat speaker stopped beeping on every key depressesion
[06:55] <corpxicle> lowlycoder: so you have no idea if its slow or not ?
[06:55] <lowlycoder> corpxicle: these are encoded midi songs of snes games
[06:55] <corpxicle> manish: good, then you solved the problem
[06:55] <sond> L1nUX1z3R: that shouldn't matter if im mounting it onto another system surely ?
[06:55] <lowlycoder> corpxicle: if a snes can play it in real time, it should be blazingly fast on a modern cpu to just encode it
[06:55] <manish> corpxicle: Problem solved itself
[06:56] <sond> L1nUX1z3R: i mean i could just be wanting to wipe it ..
[06:56] <corpxicle> lowlycoder: if you really want to pursue this issue, i would talk to whoever coded the program youre using
[06:56] <L1nUX1z3R> sond, do u want to wipe it?
[06:56] <bonez46> I run the following, as root > 'useradd -G mail scott' and it reports 'useradd: user scott exists' which suggests that 'id scott' should list mail as a group to which scott belongs.. and yet, 'id scott' does not include 'mail' as a group, but does include others.. WHY?
[06:56] <neox> helo guys i need help with my OS
[06:56] <Xerran> Hey
[06:56] <bonez46> neox whatcha need?
[06:56] <corpxicle> bonez46: no it doesnt
[06:56] <crushyboi> hello everyone
[06:56] <corpxicle> bonez46: it suggests that the id "scott" exists
[06:56] <Xerran> Hello
[06:56] <neox> my first prblem was a blank screen on login
[06:57] <corpxicle> bonez46: try "usermod"
[06:57] <sond> L1nUX1z3R: nope actually i want to change edit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:57] <vadi01> hi i want to customise the ubuntu live cd for my office users
[06:57] <vadi01> what is the best prog to use there?
[06:57] <crushyboi> anyone who can help me with ss5?
[06:57] <L1nUX1z3R> sudo it, sond
[06:57] <neox> got some couple of adjustments made on xorg.conf.then when i restart..still blank screen.
[06:57] <neox> keyboard doesnt function coz the light for the num lock wont work
[06:57] <L1nUX1z3R> sond, sudo gedit /<the path of the file>
[06:57] <vadi01> as in i just want to make a out of the box live cd which only installs specific things without games and stuff
[06:57] <neox> its been three days..T_T
[06:57] <sond> L1nUX1z3R: yes i have sudoed
[06:58] <bonez46> corpxicle: how would I use usermod?
[06:58] <L1nUX1z3R> sond, does it work?
[06:58] <L1nUX1z3R> it should
[06:58] <sond> L1nUX1z3R: but can not get it to mount rw
[06:58] <corpxicle> bonez46: just like you did useradd
[06:58] <crushyboi> hi L1n8x1z3R
[06:58] <L1nUX1z3R> check with /etc/fstab file...
[06:58] <Bodsda_> Can I ask a favour of someone please? could you download this http://paste.ubuntu.com/251175/ text file, save it as ~/text  and then run the followinf awk statement and paste the results.     cat ~/text | awk 'BEGIN { FS = "   "} ; {print $1}        can you change the variable $1 until you get two pastebins one with each column of output?
[06:59] <sond> L1nUX1z3R: if i reboot mount it again - the edits have not applied
[06:59] <L1nUX1z3R> sond, that is involved with mounting and all
[06:59] <bonez46> corpxicle: help me understand the difference tween useradd and usermod
[06:59] <it-linux> ubottu: please tell me the link howto edit fstab to auto mounting file system ext or vfat or ntfs. Thanks
[06:59] <Bodsda_> I am stuck on windows so cant do this
[06:59] <corpxicle> bonez46: useradd adds a user, usermod modifies an existing user. also, there are manuals for both
[06:59] <prince_jammys> bonez46: useradd adds a new user. usermod modifies an existing user.
[06:59] <crushyboi> :-s
[06:59] <prince_jammys> man usermod before your break things with -G
[07:00] <corpxicle> -G shouldnt break anything
[07:00] <corpxicle> -g might
[07:00] <waan> Does anybody know roughly when firefox 3.5 will be added to the repositories?
[07:00] <Bodsda_> it-linux, http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/Understandingfstab.pdf
[07:00] <prince_jammys> that
[07:00] <prince_jammys> that's not what the manual suggests.
[07:01] <corpxicle> oh ?
[07:01] <prince_jammys> which is why <man dangerous_command> is generally a good idea.
[07:01] <it-linux> Bodsda: thank you so much
[07:01] <bonez46> prince_jammys: ok, now that I ran 'usermod -G mail scott' now 'id scott' lists this >> uid=1000(scott) gid=1000(scott) groups=1000(scott),8(mail)   yet.. I am in a lot more groups than just 'mail'
[07:01] <Bodsda_> it-linux, your welcome.
[07:01] <prince_jammys> If the user is currently a member of a group which is not listed, the user will be removed from the group.
[07:01] <prince_jammys> which is why <man dangerous_command> is generally a good idea.
[07:01] <corpxicle> heh
[07:01] <corpxicle> too right
[07:01] <crushyboi> ss5 please
[07:01] <crushyboi> anyone :-w
[07:02] <corpxicle> -G -a then
[07:02] <sond> L1nUX1z3R:  yes i am trying to mount a drive rw, but it will not mount read write, i have never encountered this prob before
[07:02] <L1nUX1z3R> what does the line in /etc/fstab say?
[07:02] <cattellar> is it me or the repo server's are down?
[07:03] <stealth-> waan: it is in the respritories
[07:03] <cattellar> i cant download neither from my contry's one,or the main one
[07:03] <sond> L1nUX1z3R:  example mount -t ext3 -rw /dev/sdb1 /bob
[07:03] <L1nUX1z3R> yes
[07:03] <L1nUX1z3R> it's supposed to work if thats the line..
[07:03] <prince_jammys> bonez46: now you are not a member of admin anymore, so you probably won't be able to sudo.
[07:03] <nascentmind> hi. I am getting a "packages cannot be authenticated". how do i fix it?
[07:03] <L1nUX1z3R> sorry but i have to go for a class...
[07:04] <chid> How can I install ubuntu to USB disk, persistant 8.10 from the disk?
[07:04] <carla> hi!
[07:04] <waan> stealth-, ohh whoops
[07:04] <it-linux> Bodsda_: this is the article that I need.
[07:04] <Bodsda_> chid, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[07:05] <Bodsda_> it-linux, good, glad I could be of help, but I'm just the messenger, bodhi_zazen wrote that guide
[07:05] <neox> anyone know an effective solutions to this blank login screen???
[07:05] <it-linux> Bodsda_: please tell him my thanks
[07:05] <crushyboi> anyone ?
[07:06] <crushyboi> i am stucked on ss5 configuration
[07:06] <Bodsda_> it-linux, you could tell him yourself :) He idles in #ubuntu-beginners he may not be awake though but he will get a pm when he wakes up or he should see the ping
[07:06] <sond> anyone else have any suggestions as to why i am unable to do this - sudo mount -t ext3 -rw /dev/sdb1 /bob ?
[07:06] <chid> Bodsda_, hmm.. thanks
[07:07] <it-linux> Bodsda_: okay..I'll go to tell him now...
[07:07] <neox> anyone know an effective solutions to this blank login screen???
[07:07] <dsnyders> sond, are you getting an error message?
[07:07] <Bodsda_> !repeat | neox
[07:09] <sond> dsnyders: nope, it mounts i make changes, reboot all changes gone - no its not a scsi disk with jumpers set to RO either..
[07:09] <crushyboi> anyone who can help me with ss5 :(
[07:09] <dsnyders> sond, is it writable before you reboot?
[07:10] <sond> dsnyders: i mounted it RW ..
[07:11] <xim_> where does ubuntu store custom application launcher shortcuts i have created?
[07:11] <nascentmind> how can i fix the "packages may not be authenticated" message anyone?
[07:11] <P79> hi
[07:11] <P79> hi
[07:11] <dsnyders> sond, what does your /etc/fstab say?
[07:11] <P79> {=Guess that number=} has started! To guess a number, Type: +num <number between 1-100> and remember, you only have 60 seconds!!
[07:12] <Flannel> P79: Please stop that.
[07:12] <xim_> lol
[07:12] <ducklan> sond: can you find sdb1 in /dev?
[07:13] <P79> Game over!! You all lose! The correct number was 98 {=Guess that number=}
[07:13] <morphles> in kde ubuntu 9.04 in hde (version 4.2.2) theres this a bit uncool bug: after you suspend or hibernate and resume it doesnt ask to unlock pc, there is bug report filled for this, but no workaround, maybe somone nows some nice workaraound for this? or should i better ask in #kde ?
[07:13] <ziroday> nascentmind: take a look at http://popey.com/blog/2009/06/05/Easy_Script_To_Get_And_Install_PPA_GPG_Keys/ to get GPG keys for PPA's automatically
[07:13] <sond> dsnyders: why would that matter  ? i'm telling some auxillary disk to mount where and how i want it to ( the mount point is writeable btw )
[07:13]  * P79 announces: "Fortune Cookie is now ACTIVE" Use: +fortune and you will get a fortune cookie :)
[07:14] <dsnyders> sond, because you say it goes back to readonly when you reboot.  Mounting is controlled by the /etc/fstab file.  So we need to check whether it is being told to mount readonly.
[07:14] <nascentmind> ziroday, i am not using any ppas.
[07:14] <waan> stealth-, I've installed firefox-3.5, and removed the old one, but the application still says firefox 3.0.13
[07:16] <myself> yo is there a way to download unicode fonts for ubuntu??????
[07:16] <sond> dsnyders: i boot the system mount an additional disk "somewhere" do some writes to it , unmount it, reboot system , mount the additional disk 'somewhere" again , and find that it had not written..
[07:16] <waan> or rather, how do you change the menu item to point to firefox 3.5
[07:17] <sond> .. i'm suspecting its a hardware thing..
[07:18] <gartral> anyone have any problems while formatting a Sandisk Cruzer micro USB stick?
[07:19] <dsnyders> sond, what kind of disk and partition is it?
[07:20] <sond> dsnyders: IDE root partition ( /dev/sdb1 )
[07:21] <sond> dsnyders: im booting with /dev/sda
[07:22] <dsnyders> sond, what does it say when you issue: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[07:22] <crushyboi>   need help with iptables
[07:22] <sond> dsnyders: BRB
[07:22] <Bilal> How to use internet expoler optimized website in ubuntu 9.04?
[07:22] <gartral> dsnyders: you'll need too have him sudo that
[07:23] <bonez46> prince_jammys: thanks.   It has a sudo already.
[07:23] <maco> Bilal: google for ies4linux or ie4linux. the website will be tatanka-something
[07:24] <crushyboi> ubottu: ss5
[07:24] <maco> Bilal: its a way to install ie in wine
[07:24] <Flannel> !ies4linux | maco
[07:24] <gartral> dsnyders: oops.. your right, my appologies
[07:24] <crushyboi> ubottu: iptables
[07:24] <gartral> !crap
[07:24]  * gartral wins
[07:24] <Bilal> maco: thanks
[07:25] <maco> Flannel: oh theres an s afterall
[07:25] <Thibit> !language | gartral
[07:25] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[07:25] <SunStealer> let us just stop abusing the bot
[07:25] <SunStealer> plz.
[07:25] <maco> !anything
[07:25] <silv3r_m00n> is it possible to store some information about a file inside it ...
[07:25] <dsnyders> gartral, NP, we all miss stuff.  I've sat at a stop sign waiting for it to change once.
[07:25] <maco> oops
[07:25] <maco> bad timing
[07:26] <gartral> Thibit: i was actually crying too see if ubottu knew anything about craps, which is a game
[07:26] <Thibit> Ah, k
[07:26] <sond> dsnyders: nothing unusual
[07:26] <gartral> trying*
[07:26] <dsnyders> sond, is it a linux partition?
[07:27] <outy> has anybody got a link to a guide to install kde on one of the other desktops ?
[07:27] <gartral> and hell is a place, not a swear word ;P
[07:27] <outy> so like, desktop 1 is gnome, desktop 2 is kde
[07:27] <sond> dsnyders: yes
[07:27] <UBUNTU-ROCKZ-> i have a big problem whit ubuntu  can someone help me ???
[07:27] <gartral> !help | UBUNTU-ROCKZ-
[07:27] <maco> outy: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[07:27] <maco> outy: OH.... ummm...you mean like on different workspaces, same session? no
[07:28] <maco> outy: ive heard of running a gnome session on one screen and a kde session on another, but remember two totally separate sessions. cant copy and paste between them or anything
[07:28] <maco> outy: of course, you can use kde apps in gnome just fine and the reverse as well
[07:28] <dsnyders> sond, what does it say when you issue: cat /etc/mtab
[07:28] <UBUNTU-ROCKZ-> oke i instaled ubuntu on my laptop but forgot to make free space for the partision and now a run low on memory
[07:29] <maco> memory or disk space? the two are unrelated. memory and partitioning are unrelated, that is to say
[07:29] <UBUNTU-ROCKZ-> disk space
[07:29] <maco> you can boot the live cd again and use gparted on it to resize your partitions
[07:30] <UBUNTU-ROCKZ-> i can't its locked
[07:30] <maco> what is?
[07:30] <UBUNTU-ROCKZ-> the ubuntu partision is locked
[07:30] <Myrtti> UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: boot with the live cd?
[07:30] <cuddlefish> Hello, I have an issue with a Nvidia  ck8s motherboard with onboard sound.
[07:31] <sond> dsnyders: /dev/sdb1 /bob ext3 rw
[07:31] <gartral> !livecd | UBUNTU-ROCKZ-
[07:31] <xim_> has nobody ever found a stable ubuntu solution to playing flash videos?
[07:31] <cuddlefish> The output works, but all I get is static for the Mic
[07:31] <UBUNTU-ROCKZ-> i know what a live cd is
[07:31] <cuddlefish> _xim: try Flash
[07:31] <gartral> xim_: flash 9 dev r256 is working fine for me
[07:31] <maco> UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: locked....you sure its not just mounted? unmount it then resize?
[07:32] <xim_> cuddlefish, thanks for the helpful reply
[07:32] <spO> apt-get build-dep will build any dependencies that a package needs?
[07:32] <Flannel> spO:
[07:32] <xim_> gartral, are you on 32 or 64 bit?
[07:32] <UBUNTU-ROCKZ-> i donu how can i unmount
[07:32] <cuddlefish> you're welcome!
[07:32] <Hollywood-Hogan> Hi could someone help me with Ubuntu install display problem?
[07:32] <gartral> xim_: 32 and 64, both work, but 32 isn't producing sound >.<
[07:32] <Flannel> spO: no, it gets the dependencies needed to build.
[07:32] <dsnyders> sond, what do you get when you: ls -ld /bob
[07:32] <UBUNTU-ROCKZ-> how to unmount a partision
[07:33] <gartral> UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: umount, and please stop butchering the word "Partition"
[07:33] <spO> flannel, dpkg -i   somedebpackage.deb   won't install because ti has dependencies, but   apt-get build-dep   somedebpackage       won't fix that?
[07:33] <UBUNTU-ROCKZ-> how to unmount
[07:33] <crushyboi> i have multiple ip's on my server which i added using network script, now what i want is, whenever a users request sometihng from server using server ip for example <IP_ADDRESS> on port 6000 then the data should be returned from the same ip rather than tha main ip of server. is it possible anyway?
[07:34] <Hollywood-Hogan> I am installing Ubuntu on a laptop that has dead display on laptop, so I connect to CRT monitor. I boot the livedisc and can see Ubuntu load, but then I  lose my display once I enter the GNOME. Same wiht the Install screen. I replace CRT, same problem. Any ideas?
[07:34] <gartral> UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: i just told told you, umount... so you would use umount /dev/sda once in the live d.. and please GOD don't do that when your booted off the hard drive
[07:34] <Flannel> spO: No, Try gdebi instead of dpkg
[07:34] <SunStealer> anyone do photo printing in linux? I got an epson 3800 stylus pro, and some sites says that it will be a very expensive paper weight in linux
[07:35] <UBUNTU-ROCKZ-> thx for help
[07:35] <crushyboi> i have multiple ip's on my server which i added using network script, now what i want is, whenever a users request sometihng from server using server ip for example <IP_ADDRESS> on port 6000 then the data should be returned from the same ip rather than tha main ip of server. is it possible anyway?
[07:35] <grawity> crushyboi: Isn't that how it always works?
[07:35] <gartral> SunStealer: epson, lexmark, and i *think* brother printers have no support in linux
[07:36] <eoamit> I'm trying to compare the differences between two ANSI encoded files. When I try "diff -a file1 file2 > output.txt", I get a bunch of jarbled text. What can I do?
[07:36] <minixi> crushyboi, only through routing
[07:36] <gartral> does anyone know why it is when i unmount a flash drive the NODE dissappears and i cant edit the partitions?
[07:36] <crushyboi> grawity: no, the service which i bind to an ip like <IP_ADDRESS> on port 6000 if i connect to it and check packets, packet comes from server ip like <IP_ADDRESS> rather than <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:36] <minixi> crushyboi, one server you can do this with, however, is apache configured for virtual IPs
[07:36] <SunStealer> gartral: ach, well, that ends my testing linux :/
[07:37] <gartral> SunStealer: sorry, maybe you could write a driver?
[07:37] <SunStealer> gartral: haha, I'm the least programming savvy creature on this side of equator I'm afraid :-)
[07:37] <crushyboi> minixi: its a proxy server ss5 which i bind to particular ip on particular port, problem is the return ip, no matter what ip i use, but client gets the main ip of server.
[07:38] <minixi> SunStealer,  you can do two things; try to get it working with Wine, or find a wrapper for the driver
[07:38] <dsnyders> SunStealer, don't let that turn you off linux.  You may be able to use some alternate driver, or run a virtual windows.
[07:38] <minixi> crushyboi,  yes, that's because of the routing
[07:39] <sond> dsnyders:  ls -ld  /bob .
[07:39] <minixi> crushyboi,  you could define static routes, but it wouldn't be feasible for a large number of clients
[07:39] <SunStealer> hmm, I'm kind of dependant on 100% correct color control etc, but I'll see what i can find on wrappers!
[07:39] <maco> hp printers are like $60 and all work as soon as plugged in
[07:39] <SunStealer> (can you run a driver from withing for instance wine?)
[07:39] <maco> and actually, lexmark has drivers
[07:39] <SunStealer> hehe, my printer is 1600,- and print amazingly :-)
[07:39] <dsnyders> sond, yes, what's the output?
[07:39] <maco> theyre not postscript printers with ppd's like we're used to, but they do provide compilable drivers on the website
[07:39] <crushyboi> minixi: can we do something like route will check for which ip the request came from and then return with same ip?
[07:39] <minixi> crushyboi,  the only other way is running small virtual machines and route via NAT
[07:40] <maco> and a kit for writing drivers if you find one not currently supported, i think
[07:40] <minixi> crushyboi,  you could do that statically
[07:40] <minixi> crushyboi, research static routing
[07:40] <crushyboi> minixi, ok bro, but am lost for now, don't know anythng about static routing.
[07:40] <WilliamC> I need to put my Linux PC on something, laying on the floor and looking up at the monitor hurts my neck
[07:40] <minixi> crushyboi,  but going the virtual OS path is almost always easier
[07:40] <sond> dsnyders:  thats it for the /bob it returns a dot if i do ls -al /bob i get the dir listing i expect
[07:40] <crushyboi> minixi, though i heard its possible using iptables, but i don't know how
[07:41] <minixi> crushyboi,  lol, well your problem is all about routing. :)
[07:41] <SunStealer> I'll look into pwrappers
[07:41] <WilliamC> Also, should I switch back to XP due to me mostly being a gamer?
[07:41] <minixi> crushyboi, yeah, you could NAT the traffic coming in ... but again, that is routing
[07:41] <minixi> WilliamC, dual booting seems too hard?
[07:41] <crushyboi> any howto's for that? or if you can explain , i will be thankful to you :)
[07:42] <chal`away> are there secrets to installing Skype on Jaunty/ 9.04?
[07:42] <minixi> SunStealer,  yeah you may find a wrapper ... maybe ndis
[07:42] <gartral> chal`away: called gizmo
[07:42] <WilliamC> minixi, I generally don't have a purpose to do it, and really I have no reason, other than curiosity, to be running Linux, I mean, it's not faster than Windows.
[07:43] <WilliamC> I play games.
[07:43] <dsnyders> sond, weird.  You should be getting something like drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 48 2007-03-01 23:51 /bob
[07:43] <chal`away> gartral, should i google that? i have 64 bit
[07:43] <minixi> SunStealer, sorry, hit enter too soon :) ... "maybe ndis like wrapper"
[07:43] <minixi> WilliamC, then don't use it lol
[07:43] <gartral> !gizmo | chal`away
[07:43] <minixi> WilliamC, why do we care what you use?
[07:43] <gartral> !gizmo5 | chal`away
[07:43] <crushyboi> 8-|
[07:43] <gartral> !info gizmo5 | chal`away
[07:43] <grawity> chal`away: gizmo is not skype.
[07:43] <WilliamC> I use gizmo, I've been having issues in it.
[07:44] <WilliamC> Gizmo is compatible with skype.
[07:44] <chal`away> here's my problem: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m52348c5b
[07:44] <gartral> grawity WilliamC chal`away gizmo is not skype, but DOES work with skype networks
[07:44] <grawity> gartral: it does? since when?
[07:44] <gartral> grawity: opensky
[07:44] <dsnyders> sond, try ls -ld /
[07:44] <WilliamC> gartral, that's just what I said.
[07:45] <crushyboi> chal`away : try this http://technical-itch.co.uk/2007/09/18/how-to-install-skype-on-ubuntu/
[07:45] <dsnyders> sond, sorry, ls -l /
[07:45] <gartral> WilliamC: ok, you beat me too it well i was typeing names, but don't ya know redundancy is a good thing in computing ;)
[07:45] <chal`away> crushyboi,  thanks :)
[07:46] <WilliamC> Anyways, is using WINE to run Windows games faster than running Windows games in Windows?
[07:46] <minixi> crushyboi,  it's not all that hard. Take a day and study routing. You'll be a better person for it
[07:47] <sond> dsnyders:  duh ! sorry i was in /bob when it returned the dot from / doing ls -ld i get as above drwxr-xr-x root root /bob etc
[07:47] <minixi> WilliamC,  of course not
[07:47] <minixi> WilliamC, dude, just use windows. It makes you happy
[07:47] <WilliamC> Uh, I need to download Windows, I have the serial still though
[07:47] <sond> and from / doing ls -l /bob lists a writeable dir list
[07:48] <gartral> !OT | WilliamC
[07:48] <nevyn> WilliamC: that's nice for you.
[07:48] <minixi> WilliamC,  you can get a demo version of Windows 7 that's good for another 6 months from Microsoft
[07:48] <kiaas__> WilliamC, congratulations, that is illeggal.
[07:48] <minixi> WilliamC, anyway, this is all OT
[07:48] <kiaas__> WilliamC, borrow a CD from someone you know.
[07:48] <minixi> !ot WilliamC
[07:48] <minixi> lol
[07:48] <WilliamC> Stop calling me off topic.
[07:48] <kiaas__> You are, WilliamC
[07:48] <WilliamC> I get the point.
[07:48] <minixi> WilliamC, take it somewhere else
[07:48] <gartral> kiaas__: not really, the iso is legal as long as you do have a valid... hard copy key >.>
[07:48] <saurabh_> hey, can any one help me with adobe flash plugin issue??
[07:49] <crushyboi> :(
[07:49] <WilliamC> What's the issue?
[07:49] <kiaas__> gartral, you have to get the ISO from a valid source. Guess what..the pirate bay isn't a valid source.
[07:49] <saurabh_> actually, I ahve the latest adobe's flash plugin installed, but whenever I watch videos on youtube, it says to upgrade
[07:50] <minixi> who cares what he does or how he does it? It's not relevant to the purpose of this channel
[07:50] <saurabh_> while, on other sites, it says to install adobe plugin to view video
[07:50] <zamolxes> hello. I installed a fresh 9.04 , installed the nvidia drivers and did the updates simultaneously, and on reboot xorg didn't start (no screens found) . Now I reinstalled the system (not because of that, i needed raid and didn't have an alternate cd handy then). Question: what caused xorg to bork? should i install the updates, reboot, then install the nvidia drivers?
[07:50] <gartral> kiaas__: um... MS does have it on their ftp site, ever since that CAL for Vista
[07:50] <grawity> who cares if it's MS or TPB... you have a license to use one copy of $RELEASE, that's all. </offtopic>
[07:50] <WilliamC> Have you checked what version it says is installed in browser?
[07:50] <saurabh_> WilliamC, can u help me??
[07:50]  * gartral agrees with grawity and disengages
[07:50] <saurabh_> ya, about plugins
[07:50] <saurabh_> about:plugins
[07:50] <kiaas__> Bah. When is adobe going to fix the massive slow downs in flash? Firefox under WINE locks up a lot.
[07:50] <zamolxes> i figured maybe a new xorg/kernel got in with the updates and that caused it
[07:50] <Guest181> hello everyone, can some one please tell me how I can copy a file from ROOT to desktop?
[07:50] <th^> zamolxes: breakage sounds pretty.. strange. but i would do either one first
[07:51] <th^> zamolxes: yes, nvidia has kernel drivers :p there's a slight change something went wrong there. but i've never seen such thing happen
[07:51] <th^> zamolxes: especially since X should always start in VGA safe mode
[07:51] <Pecar> hi is tthere some program to synchronize with a palm hp which in win uses Hotsync for this proposal?
[07:51] <dsnyders> sond, sorry, nothing is sticking out to me.  It may be that the drive cable may not be seated fully.  Anyways, I've got to sleep.  Sorry I wasn't able to help.
[07:52] <saurabh_> WilliamC, would u mind to come for a private chat
[07:52] <zamolxes> th^: I didn't do anything too advanced, just responded to the popups with clicks :)
[07:52] <gregorio1982> qui italiani?
[07:52] <th^> Zedde: yep, it sounds strange still :p
[07:52] <gwildor> Pecar,  open synaptic, and seardch for palm pilot.....you would get the result faster than i could look then post here
[07:52] <maco> gregorio1982: #ubuntu-it
[07:52] <th^> *zamolxes
[07:52] <gregorio1982> ty
[07:53] <th^> zamolxes: try installing nvidia drivers first - check if it boots up, then install updates
[07:53] <zamolxes> th^: right. maybe when i have the time i'll try to reproduce it and see what actually went wrong
[07:53] <sond> dsnyders:  thanks for trying - yep its a weird one - i may try to clone it to another disk (dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/newdisk ) then do those edits ..
[07:53] <zamolxes> although it could've been a random event
[07:53] <th^> zamolxes: though i don't even see how you could do those things same time, as apt can operate only one instance at time :p sounds like a bug in driver manager if it allows that
[07:54] <zamolxes> th^: i think nvidia already finished installing its thing
[07:54] <Hordeking> Howdy. I've got a few questions for someone in the know about sound with X, and fstab (the way ubuntu is doing it)
[07:54] <Pecar> gwildor Thanks a lot. Tomorrow i'll try it. Thanks
[07:54] <zamolxes> th^: just didn't reboot
[07:54] <Hordeking> This is something that might be better approached in /msg
[07:54] <minixi> Hordeking,  just ask
[07:54] <th^> zamolxes: sounds pretty random. that should not affect at all