[00:00]  * nitero sighs
[00:01] <S[o]let> from my ssh terminal outside of screen i get beeps just fine. but inside screen i get a flash instead of a beep. how can i make it beep inside screen?
[00:02] <munz> ok is it possible to: hide folders inside a samba share but still allow access to them? of yes how? im stuck 12.04 thx :)
[00:04] <glitchd> munz, i think you can just put  a dot in front of the name of the folder to make it hidden, then hide or show it with key combination crtl+h
[00:04] <munz> mhall119: yes, the server is sharing via samba to windows tho
[00:05] <munz> sorry glitchd ment to say that to you
[00:05] <munz> is hosting files for windows computers via samba
[00:05] <glitchd> munz, right
[00:06] <glitchd> munz, you and i both dont know if its gonna work until u try it..
[00:06] <munz> glitchd: i does not :(
[00:06] <eatingthenight> munz looks like this works http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046948
[00:06] <glitchd> munz, dang.
[00:06] <eatingthenight> getting windows and unix to play nice is the biggest pain
[00:07] <munz> eatingthenight: thankyou ill read... i kno *pounds head on desk*
[00:09] <nicklas> hello, fresh and updated install on asus ultrabook, with nvidid geforce gt 740m, but cant find the drivers for the card in additional drivers tab. what can i do?
[00:09] <OiCory> Quick question, is there a way to make a live USB of the image I am running, so all of my software is on there already? I have battled with making any USB persistant but it really isnt too reliable.
[00:12] <Beldar> OiCory, A ISO loaded usb is limted to what you add the iso never changes per-say, it's not the same as a full install.
[00:14] <rtwhrt-NAS> hi
[00:14] <nicklas> noone?
[00:15] <eatingthenight> nvidia is a huge pain and has horrible support you really just have to dig through some docs nicklas
[00:15] <OiCory> Beldar, ok, I was just wondering if I could expand an ISO of Ubuntu, preload some libraries (like Irssi, Chromium, Vim, etc) already packaged into it. I understand it is a bit different from a full install, no docs, just some programs already installed.
[00:16] <OiCory> Like how different 'buntu flavors have different base programs installed.
[00:16] <daftykins> !bumblebee | nicklas
[00:16] <Beldar> OiCory, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[00:17] <daftykins> nicklas: however your best bet is to wait for 14.04 and try out nvidia-prime
[00:17] <OiCory> Awesome Beldar, thanks! I'll read up.
[00:17] <clue_h> nvidia-prime is that what optimus has for visual processing?
[00:17] <eatingthenight> nicklas: http://askubuntu.com/questions/325037/installing-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-12-04
[00:18] <daftykins> clue_h: no
[00:24] <nitero> hey guys.  having a problem with my native volume control in xubuntu.  only levels 0-2 are working, and the other 30 or so are the same as volume level 2.  wondering if anyone could help?  or could maybe tell me where the issue is - such as Pulse Audio, or ALSA?  i don't really know how to install OSS to replace ALSA / or how I would switch back if I had to...
[00:24] <nitero> would *really* like to control volume with my keyboard lol
[00:31] <Wulframn> Nitero, also try #linux, #alsa, and #xubuntu
[00:33] <nitero> Wulframn,  ah thanks good call; trying linux also already =)  i might just search "how to install OSS" or try apt-get install OSS and see if i can figure that out...
[00:33] <Wulframn> Wikis are your friend
[00:33] <nitero> ah - which wikis?
[00:33] <nitero> or just searching
[00:35] <Geo> Hello, I'm trying to setup snmpd soley for a local mrtg install. I have two interfaces on the system- eth0, and eth0:1. Among the other lines, I have agentAddress  udp:<IP_ADDRESS>:161
[00:35] <Geo> and  rocommunity public  default    -V systemonly
[00:35] <Wulframn> Googling and clicking on relevant wiki pages is how I do it
[00:36] <Geo> indexmaker gives me the error of "ERROR: did not find any matching data in cfg file" after runnign cfmaker... any thoughts as to how to alter my config to get this working?
[00:46] <bajan_danni> hi
[00:47] <bajan_danni> i've tried debian mint and plain mint, i'm now on xubuntu...in each development, no matter the browser, my web pages fail to load/partially load or for the few that load they take 10 mins or more of numerous attempts
[00:52] <fibz_> is there anyone around who can help me configure a custom xorg.cong file for an Intel g31/g33? im currently stuck @ 1024x768
[00:53] <bajan_danni> i've tried debian mint and plain mint, i'm now on xubuntu...in each development, no matter the browser, my web pages fail to load/partially load or for the few that load they take 10 mins or more of numerous attempts
[01:00] <Geo> I'm trying to set up snmp to get network load info to feed to mrtg, but the snmpd config has changed since I last did this a few years ago... what settings am I looking to add to get that to work? It currently is not populating mrtg.conf with any info
[01:06] <fibz_> might also ask in #ubuntu-server
[01:07] <nixes> ^_^ @ everyone
[01:11] <bet0x> join #SoyLent
[01:16] <pcfreak30> I am having an annoying issue. It seems for some reason a cron job refuses  to run. Theres no mail logs of it running, but I can run the command fine. Any ideas as to what I should check?
[01:16] <nitero> hey guys.  having a problem with my native volume control in xubuntu.  only levels 0-2 are working, and the other 30 or so are the same as volume level 2.  wondering if anyone could help?  or could maybe tell me where the issue is - such as Pulse Audio, or ALSA?  i don't really know how to install OSS to replace ALSA / or how I would switch back if I had to...
[01:17] <Guest46234> Can anyone assist with enabling java in ubuntu 12.04? I've tried lots of help pages, but no success.
[01:18] <Beldar> !java | Guest46234 pretty straight forward
[01:19] <fibz_> have you installed java-sdk7 and icedtea?
[01:21] <Guest46234> Thanks for info. Yes, I've installed java-sdk7 and icedtea. Test on java.com just shows gray box.
[01:22] <nitero> someone?
[01:22] <nitero> please?
[01:22] <nitero> is it pulse audio?
[01:23] <fibz_> are the levels set correctly in alsamixer  nitero?
[01:23] <nitero> fibz_,  i don't know...
[01:23] <fibz_> open a terminal window and type alsamixer
[01:26] <carlos_>  Hello Colord pack have some problems it can be remove?
[01:26] <Beldar> Guest46234, Same here in google chrome, but I have java installed, flash is problematic is linux, I would not use that as a variable to be honest.
[01:26] <Beldar> in*
[01:28] <nitero> fibz_,  then what...?
[01:28] <Guest46234> Beldar: Flash seems to work on my system. Just can't make the javascript pop-up work.
[01:29] <fibz_> is everything turned up nitero?
[01:29] <fibz_> what browser Guest46234?
[01:29] <pfifo> Whats the proper way to install nvidia drivers for geforce gts 250, I used to simply goto the command line and run 'apt-get install nvidia-current' but that no longer works, the program jockey-gtk and jockey-text are not seeing my card. I am using 12.04 32bit with lubuntu-desktop, I am also intrested in installing on my 13.10 64bit sometime in the future
[01:30] <nitero> fibz_,  if i go to the "speaker" level, and change its level, it's the same thing as the volume being controled from my keyboard, and it has the same problem - but yeah - everything is up
[01:31] <nitero> fibz_,  do you understand what i mean by only levels 0-2 are distinct, and the other 30 levels are the same as level 2?  it's kinda hard for me to explain it i guess
[01:31] <Guest46234> fibz: Chrome
[01:32] <nitero> man
[01:33] <nitero> i'm just gonna sudo apt-get install OSS
[01:33] <nitero> and see what happens
[01:35] <pfifo> [solved] I added the restricted repo, and now jockey works
[01:37] <pfifo> nitero: in programming we call that a clamp
[01:38] <nitero> pfifo,  ah.  what though?  you mean when i just try something out to see what happens?
[01:39] <pfifo> no a clamp is when a range of numbers outside of a given range, gets treated as though if it was the same as the maximum or minimum that the range permitted
[01:40] <pfifo> so what your trying to say is, my volume is clamped at 2
[01:40] <opakavic> hi
[01:44] <carlos_> Hello
[01:57] <nixes> ^_
[02:00] <sydney> what is the average time it takes to upgrade ubuntu from a cd?
[02:01] <opakavic> sydney: full upgrade ?
[02:01] <sydney> yes a upgrade,not a clean intall.
[02:03] <opakavic> from which to which
[02:03] <darkhalo> Hello when I was trying to update my packages with the package manager, I got an error that said I couldn't install software from unauthenticated locations. This was thunderbird
[02:04] <sydney> opakavic: 12.04 to 13.10.
[02:04] <xangua> darkhalo: did you add a repository recently¿
[02:05] <opakavic> it will takes less than 1 hr
[02:05] <xangua> sydney: to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10-13.04-13.10 maybe all afternoon
[02:06] <xangua> better wait untill 14.04 is out
[02:06] <sydney> xangua: ok,thanks!!
[02:07] <opakavic> xangua: maybe all afternoon, it takes ?
[02:08] <opakavic> upgrading from cd?
[02:09] <xangua> maybe you/I need to explain better
[02:09] <darkhalo> xangua, No I didn't
[02:10] <darkhalo> xangua, but I updated from the terminal and it worked so I guess I'm just wondering if I should be concerned by that error?
[02:13] <darkhalo> I'm also having an issue with ssl haha. From the looks of it, almost all of my ssl certs are from an unknown author. Should I be worried?
[02:26] <c2tarun> why is title bar of some applications not mergin in Unity's top bar?
[02:26] <c2tarun> http://imagebin.org/301263
[02:36] <Arnau_> hi! I have a problem with the - volume button in my keyboard (Fn+F6). When I press the button the notebook fall in silence and I not can to increase the volume.
[02:52] <wiky> Totem can't play .mkv, display 'Required plugin could not be found'. What package should I install?
[02:54] <pitoow> rhythmbox can't delete my mp3, it just show a red dot
[02:55] <pitoow> i have no sure if it is an error in my fstab file
[02:58] <darkhalo> my ssl certificates are showing they are from an unknown author in firefox but not in chrome. Should I be worried about this?
[03:02] <chinkung> Does anyone know how to make dnsmasq working with dns  vpn on 12.04?, I can't access internal network via hostname after connect through VPN, it seems dns doesn't resolve
[03:05] <clue_h> darkhalo, it might be that chrome is enforcing https everywhere and they have gotten a tighter grip on it
[03:06] <darkhalo> clue_h, this is on facebook, twitter, mega......pretty much everywhere but www.grc.com
[03:06] <raub> chinkung: can you see the dns?
[03:06] <clue_h> darkhalo, even on grc? which browser are you using
[03:06] <darkhalo> clue_h, NOT on grc
[03:07] <darkhalo> there are few sites that give me the green lock anymore with firefox
[03:07] <chinkung> raub: I have to dig @dnsip hostname in order to see the real ip
[03:07] <chinkung> raub: I have to comment dns=dnsmasq line in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf to make it works
[03:07] <clue_h> darkhalo, some sites have mixed content, while your main connection for signing in may be encrypted other things like images pulled from elsewhere are not
[03:08] <chinkung> raub: it seems like dnsmasq is the problem
[03:08] <darkhalo> clue_h, that makes sense
[03:08] <clue_h> darkhalo, do you have https everywhere installed as an addon?
[03:09] <darkhalo> clue_h, no, but I probably should
[03:09] <darkhalo> clue_h, didn't know it existed honestly
[03:09] <clue_h> darkhalo, i would,
[03:09] <darkhalo> clue_h, available for firefox?
[03:09] <darkhalo> clue_h, I see it for chrome
[03:10] <clue_h> darkhalo, yes it is, i think you can get it from the free software foundation site or firefox addons page
[03:10] <darkhalo> clue_h, thanks
[03:10] <numbers> my wifi keeps dropping, im using version 12.04 lts ubuntu ,
[03:11] <darkhalo> clue_h, odd that firefox doesn't have it on their web store.
[03:12] <clue_h> darkhalo, the reason is small print about policies
[03:12] <duoi> hi
[03:12] <duoi> how can i repack the ubuntu ISO so that it is permenantly live and the bootloader doesn't ask me whether or not I want to install?
[03:14] <numbers> can someone help me with my wifi problem?
[03:15] <hj2007> hi everyone, I'm getting "ssh: connect to host xxxxxxxxxxxx port 22: Connection refused". I've tried every possible move given on forums online but no success. Can anyone please help?
[03:16] <somsip> hj2007: ssh -vvv will give very verbose output which might help you
[03:17] <hj2007> somsip: thank you. do you know any such option for scp?
[03:17] <somsip> hj2007: just one -v is as far as it seems to go
[03:18] <xar-> how do I force the keyring to expire in ubuntu
[03:19] <benben> 。。。
[03:20] <hj2007> somsip: even in verbose mode I'm getting same messages. debug1: connect to address xxxxxxxxxxx port 22: Connection refused
[03:20] <igzolt> can anyone help me with a boot problem. i have installed ubuntu 12.10 LTS 32 bit on a samsung laptop. it boot into ubuntu a few times no prob and now i cannot boot into it any longer. when i i have the bootinfoscript at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2210858&page=2&p=12966136#post12966136
[03:20] <somsip> hj2007: so is ssh server running and is the port open?
[03:20] <wiky> How to make totem play .mkv files? It shows 'Plugin not found'. What package should I install
[03:21] <en4> hello #ubuntu, anyone have any ideas how to get my desktop back? login with Guest works fine, but my user shows totally black screen. thanks!
[03:21] <xar-> wiky: vlc :p
[03:21] <hj2007> somsip: also "debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for *". think it is fine.
[03:22] <hj2007> somsip: yes, "service ssh status" gives "ssh start/running, process 8145"
[03:22] <wiky> xar-, But I don't want to use vlc
[03:22] <somsip> hj2007: and the port? Is it running on 22? Is that port open?
[03:24] <SchrodingersScat> wiky: mplayer, mpv, etc
[03:24] <m00mba> anyone know any good xen tutorials?
[03:24] <hj2007> somsip: yes, "sudo netstat -anp | grep sshd" gives "tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:22              <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      8145/sshd" and "tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      8145/sshd"
[03:25] <darkhalo> hj2007, I'd use pastebin
[03:25] <xar-> hj2007: what does the remote host's auth.log say? (assuming the remote host is debian based.)
[03:26] <wiky> SchrodingersScat, Is it imposible to use totem to play .mkv?
[03:26] <SchrodingersScat> wiky: not sure, I don't have it installed.
[03:27] <m00mba> hj2007: have you connected in the past?
[03:27] <xar-> I can't justify using totem, when vlc exists and Just Works TM
[03:28] <wiky> xar-, I just like GUI of totem, it's simple
[03:28] <hj2007> darkhalo: sure, would take care next time
[03:28] <rww> wiky: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg might help
[03:28] <hj2007> xar: but I can't connect to remote host
[03:29] <wiky> rww, I think not, as I have tried it.
[03:29] <xar-> hj2007: do you have a IMPI? remote KVM? DRAC? some flavor of rescue? if not, contact your datacenter operations.
[03:29] <kostkon> wiky, mkv is just a container format, what you need is codecs. you could install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[03:29] <hj2007> m00mba: yes many times, but I'm seeing this issue lately. Also I can connect from Windows right now, but not through Ubuntu.
[03:29] <xar-> s/IMPI/IPMI/
[03:30] <rww> wiky: ah. no idea, then
[03:31] <hj2007> xar: I've no idea what you are saying. Can you give me few keywords to Google?
[03:31] <m00mba> hj2007: does your ubuntu have a new ip.  you may need to clear the host that you connected to in the known_hosts.
[03:31] <xar-> hj2007: where is the destination host located?
[03:31] <BassVI_96> I'm having some trouble getting a couple of Second Life viewers to work in 13.10
[03:32] <SchrodingersScat> BassVI_96: a couple?
[03:32] <BassVI_96> well, one
[03:32] <BassVI_96> when I double click or left click, it wants to open with gedit
[03:32] <hj2007> m00mba: no, I didn't change the IP. I already cleared known_hosts content.
[03:33] <hj2007> xar: It is in my university. I'm at my home with VPN connected.
[03:33] <wiky> kostkon, it works, thanks.
[03:33] <SchrodingersScat> !details | BassVI_96
[03:33] <kostkon> wiky, :)
[03:34] <xar-> hj2007: ruling out local issues with your workstation, then the next course of action is to rule out SSH server misconfiguration at the host, right?
[03:35] <hj2007> xar: Can there be any VPN specific issues?
[03:36] <howtech> hi
[03:37] <howtech> windows 7 and dell I hate you both
[03:37] <en4> hi again #ubuntu, apologies for being so pesky but i'm looking for new ideas to reset an all black desktop (unity, ccsm, lightdm, etc.). i can login with Guest and see a desktop, i cannot login with USER. thoughts, ideas, help?
[03:37] <howtech> trying to install windows 7 on a partition with recovery discs but an error pops up saying that i need a 198 gb hard drive
[03:38] <howtech> I guess ill just use wine
[03:38] <howtech> I need help
[03:38] <howtech> steam runs my games slower than windows
[03:38] <en4> ps, this is ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[03:39] <howtech> how do I update my graphics card driver
[03:39] <BassVI_96> about the only detail I have is, I installed 13.10 on its own drive. once logged in, I went to the Singularity web site and d/l'd the 64-bit version of that, then went to the Phoenix-Firestorm web site and d/l'd the 64-bit beta version of that. in both cases, they were opened with Archive Editor, and extracted to Home
[03:40] <BassVI_96> when I had 12.04 installed, both viewers worked via double clicking, and selecting Run, but I didn't have voice in either viewer
[03:43] <kostkon> en4, what you mean you cannot login
[03:44] <BassVI_96> ? for me, kostkon?
[03:46] <kostkon> BassVI_96, no. in your case, you need to right click on the file, select properties, then permissions then enable the allow executing file as program option
[03:46] <m00mba> hj2007: are you using iptables?
[03:47] <Toph> i'm using chrome browser in Ubuntu 13.10 and it doesn't play videos , always asking for  the Flash Player or the latest version . I have installed the version from the Ubuntu software Centre
[03:47] <BassVI_96> allow executing is checked, when I look at permissions for the Firestorm shell
[03:48] <en4> kostkon, i can login as USER but i have a completely black screen
[03:51] <BassVI_96> is it possible I goofed something on extracting each of the two programs?
[03:52] <en4> kostkon, however, if i create a new user (new_USER), that user can login and see a perfectly working unity desktop. so how can i get my working unity desktop back for USER?
[03:52] <kostkon> en4, login into tty, try to reset unity/compiz
[03:54] <kostkon> en4, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[03:56] <en4> thanks, kostkon. after running unity --reset, i see "Setting Update "run_key"" followed by "Warn:" messages from compiz some of which say "this should never happen. you should probably file a bug about this."
[03:56] <en4> it then halts
[03:57] <kostkon> en4, ctrl+alt+f7 to go back to the desktop
[03:59] <en4> kostkon, still completely black whether i Ctrl+C that halted unity --reset process or not
[04:01] <en4> kostkon, this command halts at "Loading icons..."  (DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/ccsm)
[04:01] <kostkon> en4, reboot and see if anything has changed, sudo reboot
[04:02] <en4> kostkon, many thanks for your attention! rebooting..
[04:02] <hj2007> m00mba: not sure, but "sudo iptables -L | grep ssh" returns nothing.
[04:03] <javier_> hi
[04:03]  * BassVI_96 pretty noobish with anything 'NIX, only having used pine e-mail in college 10 years ago
[04:04] <en4> kostkon, looks the same completely black screen
[04:04] <kostkon> en4, ok :/
[04:04] <m00mba> hj2007:  probably not using it but it could return with numeric 22.
[04:09] <BassVI_96> I'm figuring out XChat quicker than Ubunto
[04:10] <pvl1> xchat is an app
[04:10] <m00mba> hj2007:  check your hosts.allow and hosts.deny.  You can still connect to the server via the windows connection, right?
[04:10] <pvl1> ubuntu is an os. apples and oranges BassVI_96
[04:11] <BassVI_96> right
[04:11] <BassVI_96> I just can't get my two Second Life viewers to run
[04:11] <pvl1> why not
[04:12] <BassVI_96> when I double click, gedit opens instead
[04:13] <BassVI_96> when I right click, Open with gedit is the Open choice
[04:13] <pvl1> chmod +x file
[04:13] <BassVI_96> where do I do that?
[04:13] <Bugbear> i have been fiddling with a problem with my display resolution all day and i've tried everything. im ready to file a bug report on the issue but i dont know what to file the report against.  would it be xorg-server and xf86-video-intel ?
[04:14] <rww> jaequery: fix your IRC client :(
[04:14] <pvl1> BassVI_96: in a terminal
[04:14] <jaequery> why
[04:14] <BassVI_96> kostkon said to right click, and look at permissions. Allow executing file as program is checked in both
[04:14] <Bugbear> BassVI_96, right click, choose open with other application and enable the checkmark for "Always use this application" ?
[04:15] <rww> jaequery: because it keeps spamming the channels you're in with "Max SendQ exceeded" quit and rejoins
[04:15] <pvl1> BassVI_96: i prefer doing it by hand. because that way i know it works for sure. where did you get this viewer
[04:15] <jaequery> oh interesting
[04:15] <BassVI_96> both viewers I downloaded from the web sites for the viewer
[04:16] <rww> jaequery: hence someone else forwarding you from some other channel to ##fix_your_connection earlier, which I was about to do but it stopped (for a bit)
[04:16] <pvl1> BassVI_96: what do you see in gedit. the very first line
[04:16] <pvl1> BassVI_96: can you link me to that website
[04:16] <BassVI_96> okay
[04:17] <BassVI_96> this one is for the Singularity viewer, but I'm having the same problem with Firestorm as well
[04:17] <BassVI_96> http://www.singularityviewer.org/
[04:18] <BassVI_96> and I need to look at that first line like you asked
[04:18] <BassVI_96> first line = #!/bin/bash
[04:18] <pvl1> ok good
[04:19] <BassVI_96> I was using both Firestorm and Singularity viewers just fine, when I was using 12.04, although I couldn't get voice to work in either viewer
[04:19] <chamunks> Anyone know what I would use to get output only a section of a text file.
[04:20] <pvl1> chamunks: sed or grep
[04:20] <pvl1> BassVI_96: you are double clicking in nautilus right
[04:20] <BassVI_96> not sure what nautilus is
[04:21] <BassVI_96> when I was using the viewers in 12.04, I could double click, a window would come up with launch options, and clicking Run started the program
[04:21] <usr13> !nautilus | BassVI_96
[04:22] <usr13> !info nautilus | BassVI_96
[04:22] <pvl1> usr13: whats the default fm  in saucy
[04:22]  * BassVI_96 has a LOT to learn about Ubuntu
[04:23] <pvl1> BassVI_96: do you want a quick solution to just get it working? run it in a terminal
[04:23] <chamunks> I've got a regex thing that would do it to some extent.
[04:23] <pvl1> but it sounds to me like permission errors
[04:23] <BassVI_96> I don't even have that option atm
[04:23] <pvl1> BassVI_96: what do you mean
[04:24] <BassVI_96> Run In Terminal was one of the choices, when I'd double click when I was in 12.04
[04:24] <chamunks> pvl1, Trying to just get the users section out of this file http://hastebin.com/mejururupu
[04:24] <chamunks> and jam it into a similar file on a different server.
[04:24] <BassVI_96> I installed 13.10 today, and that's where my problems started
[04:25] <chamunks> we were attempting to use this regex /^(.*?users:\s)/is
[04:25] <hj2007> m00mba: everything is commented in those two files
[04:25] <pvl1> BassVI_96: i meant actually open a terminal, and run it from within said terminal
[04:25] <pvl1> BassVI_96: is that how you would run it in 12.04 btw?
[04:25] <hj2007> m00ma: yes I can connect using Windows, it works perfectly there
[04:25] <BassVI_96> that's what I'm trying to figure out, pvl1
[04:25] <pvl1> !fm
[04:26] <pvl1> !file manager
[04:26] <pvl1> BassVI_96: hold on a sec
[04:26] <pvl1> chamunks: i think sed is the wy to go... id ask in #linux if i were u
[04:27] <chamunks> thanks pvl1
[04:27] <pvl1> np chamunks
[04:28] <m00mba> hj2007:  strange.  you connect with the same user from windows as you do from ubuntu?  Are you sshing or sftp or scp?  Can you provide the command minus the ip that you are performing from ubuntu?
[04:28] <pvl1> BassVI_96: have you got a terminal open
[04:29] <BassVI_96> I've got the firestorm shell open in gedit
[04:29] <hj2007> m00ma: I don't understand how can users across two different OS be same? I'm using scp, even ssh doesn't work and gives the same error. I'm using "scp -v ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub username@xxxxxxxx:.ssh/temp.pub"
[04:30] <pvl1> BassVI_96: cd to the location of the file you are trying to run
[04:30] <somsip> hj2007: scp -v -i ~/.ssh/rsa_pub...etc
[04:31] <somsip> hj2007: you're missing the -i
[04:31] <somsip> hj2007: oh, you're trying to copy the key? Maybe my mistake...
[04:32]  * BassVI_96 don't know what cd is
[04:32] <hj2007> somsip: yes, there is no -i option
[04:32] <somsip> hj2007: I jumped in before I read to the end of the line. My bad
[04:33] <pvl1> !cd | BassVI_96
[04:34] <pvl1> BassVI_96: cd = change directory, its the universal command to change directory. when you open a terminal your in your home directory, you can cd to Downloads or whatever as though you are in a file manager
[04:34] <pvl1> except you must type
[04:35] <pvl1> BassVI_96: also do this: http://askubuntu.com/a/305776
[04:35] <BassVI_96> so I can type !cd here?
[04:36] <pvl1> nope i was just trying something
[04:36] <pvl1> here wait
[04:36] <m00mba> hj2007:  make sure when you do ssh you use ssh -l userid IP
[04:36] <pvl1> BassVI_96: is it ok if i Private message you
[04:36] <BassVI_96> sure
[04:36] <m00mba> hj2007: can you check your permissions on .ssh
[04:39] <hj2007> m00mba: drwx------
[04:41] <m00mba> hj2007:  I think it should be 600
[04:42] <hj2007> m00mba: done, same error
[04:42] <somsip> m00mba: hj2007 700 here and ssh is fine for me. files inside should be 600
[04:42] <somsip> hj2007: is the windows machine you can connect from on the same IP?
[04:43] <hj2007> spmsip: yes, same IP
[04:43] <m00mba> somsip: thx and good question
[04:43] <somsip> hj2007: can you ssh to any other server from ubuntu?
[04:43] <rodhash> Guys, any idea where the iptables rules are stored in Ubuntu Saucy ?
[04:43] <pvl1> !terminal | BassVI_96
[04:44] <hj2007> somsip: which other server can I try?
[04:44] <somsip> hj2007: do you have a spare? If not, I can spin on up for you
[04:44] <aeon-ltd> rodhash: /etc/ ?
[04:44] <m00mba> hj2007:  from windows are you using a gui like winscp?
[04:44] <hj2007> somsip: i dont have. please do.
[04:44] <jak2013> m00mba hi
[04:45] <rodhash> aeon-ltd, there is nothing under /etc ... at least nothing as "iptables"
[04:45] <BassVI_96> ugh...I don't have an Applications folder
[04:45] <hj2007> m00mba: putty
[04:47] <aeon-ltd> rodhash: been a while since i used, but they should be in /etc/iptables/ . why can't you just use the commands?
[04:48] <rodhash> aeon-ltd, actually I use the commands .. but I'm trying to find out where all these default rules are coming  from
[04:48] <Es0teric> whats the grep command to kill a mysql.sock process?
[04:49] <Neozonz> sockit [pid]
[04:49]  * Neozonz chuckles
[04:49]  * SonikkuAmerica socks every process
[04:50] <Solupus> hi guys, I have a windows 8 gaming PC right now
[04:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Solupus: And?
[04:50] <Solupus> 16 GB RAM, 4.5 OCed CPU, 3 TB HDD, 250 GB SSD
[04:50] <m00mba> hj2007:  good.  just trying to narrow down the issue.  stupid q but you are connecting with the same user from both windows and ubuntu right?  And its a normal user and not root right?
[04:50] <Solupus> I was wondering if I switch to Xbuntu would my PC slow down drastically?
[04:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Solupus: If anything I would say it would speed up...
[04:50] <SerajewelKS> the nouveau drivers in 13.10 have major issues with gnome 3, which the installer boots into (the desktop is severely distorted, such that windows don't appear where they actually are, and are stretched in weird ways)
[04:50] <Solupus> I run Xubuntu under virtualBox to learn and its a bit slow, I already allocated 4096 GB of RAM to it and 2 cores
[04:51] <SerajewelKS> is there a way to force the environment the 13.10 cd boots you into to use either the proprietary drivers, or something safe like vesa?
[04:51] <Solupus> of course, thats virtualbox, but im just wondering if XFCE would actually speed things up because of the other bloated software not there
[04:51] <hj2007> m00mba: yes it is normal user. but I don't understand how can we talk of same user across different OSes
[04:51] <Solupus> SonikkuAmerica, alright. Thanks. I guess live boot is the only way I can be sure
[04:51] <SonikkuAmerica> Solupus: You can always grab a !Live image -- oh, you're ahead of me
[04:52] <Solupus> SonikkuAmerica, also; I have 3 monitors do you know of any potential issues I might get from that?
[04:52] <pvl1> short attention span
[04:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Solupus: If you have an NVIDIA Optimus card and connect via HDMI...
[04:53] <Solupus> SonikkuAmerica, no, but I have nvidia geForce which is using 1 hdmi port
[04:53] <Solupus> is it an optimus issue or hdmi issue?
[04:53] <m00mba> hj2007:  The user you are connecting to will be the same on the server side.  userA will be the same whether you are connecting from win or ubuntu client to ubuntu server.  Unless I am misunderstanding your configuration.
[04:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Solupus: You could run into an issue with either one.
[04:54] <hj2007> m00ba: yes it is same. I didn't get you properly first time.
[04:55] <m00mba> hj2007: where I was going is that that the server config can block login.  like norootlogin, something like that.
[04:57] <hj2007> m00mba: I cannot even connect to a sql server in my university (I'm on VPN right now) from Ubuntu, but I can connect from Windows.
[04:57] <benben> 我操
[04:57] <hj2007> m00mba: So it looks like it is not a ssh specific issue, right?
[04:57] <m00mba> hj2007: ah if you're vpn into another network a fw could be blocking you.
[04:58] <m00mba> hj2007: is the server in the vpn network?
[04:58] <hj2007> m00mba: I already disable firewall using "ufw disable"
[04:58] <hj2007> m00mba: yes server is in the VPN network
[04:59] <m00mba> hj2007:  okay. yes it looks like the issue is more than just ssh.
[04:59] <gan_21> how to startup runlevel in ubuntu12.04
[04:59] <hj2007> m00mba: yes, I think I cannot connect to anything outside
[05:00] <hj2007> m00mba: how can I check connecting to any other server using ssh, like somsip was saying?
[05:00] <somsip> hj2007: check your private messages...
[05:01] <somsip> hj2007: and try pinging the problem host to see if it's a routing issue
[05:01] <hj2007> somsip: ping works perfectly
[05:02] <m00mba> hj2007:  I remember you saying sometimes it works and sometimes it does not.  the ubuntu client is it a virtual?
[05:02] <hj2007> m00mba: actually it used to work before, but not now. I have changed my desktop to Cinnamon from Unity. Does that matter?
[05:03] <somsip> hj2007: if it's VPN, I don't think I can help. We seem to have discounted ssh server (as win client can connect) and ubuntu ssh client (as can connect to other ssh servers)
[05:03] <hj2007> m00mba: no it is a full Ubuntu install
[05:03] <hj2007> somsip: But I also can't connect to a SQL DB server which is within VPN
[05:04] <hj2007> somsip: What do you think can be concluded from that?
[05:04] <m00mba> hj2007:  should not.  Is your windows box vpn in the network too?
[05:05] <hj2007> m00mba: yes, I'm connecting to same VPN
[05:05] <xar-> I know this is going to sound extremely lame, but how about you "call" your university help desk, and have them help you out?
[05:06] <hj2007> xar: yes I would do that tomorrow. I was stuck coz of spring break and right now it is 12:06 AM :)
[05:07] <somsip> hj2007: routing or VPM issues would be my guess. Neither of which I know anything about
[05:07] <hj2007> somsip: oh ok. thank you for your time anyway :)
[05:08] <wiak> how can i grep out the version number of a program like LFTP | Version 4.4.15 | Copyright (c) 1996-2014 Alexander V. Lukyanov to only 4.4.15
[05:08] <xar-> wiak: easy: lftp -v | head -n1 | awk '{print $4}'
[05:08] <wiak> somsip woot, did you open firewall ? :P
[05:08] <wiak> xar sweet thx
[05:08] <wiak> :)
[05:10] <m00mba> hj2007:  sorry, it does sound like a vpn or routing issue, maybe concurrent connection issue.  But I need to get some sleep so I am signing off.
[05:11] <NY> Anyone here from NY?
[05:12] <NY> ?????
[05:12] <rww> NY: try #ubuntu-us-ny :)
[05:12] <xar-> god the six question marks are so offensive
[05:12] <xar-> try some irc etiquette please
[05:12] <hj2007> m00mba: thank you for your time, good night :)
[05:15] <NY> Whose    offwended?
[05:15] <NY> Ofended
[05:17] <rahul_> hi all
[05:23] <nicklas> hello, fresh and updated install on asus ultrabook, with nvidid geforce gt 740m, but cant find the drivers for the card in additional drivers tab. what can i do?
[05:24] <nicklas>  its a new ultrabook: http://cdon.se/hemelektronik/asus/asus-k551lb-xx227h-i7-4500u-8gb-24gb-ssd-750gb-gt740-2gb-w8-p26299885
[05:29] <User1220b> does anyone know how get firefox downloaded
[05:30] <User1220b> apt-get install firefox, ubuntu center aint working either.
[05:34] <fibz_> what error do you get?
[05:38] <alex_> moin
[05:45] <bray90820> ow do i save VIM
[05:46] <bray90820> how
[05:47] <qin> bray90820: w
[05:47] <BassVI_96> would a Linux for Dummies book do me any good, in the coming future?
[05:48] <qin> BassVI_96: Is ...for Dummies any good for you in any aspect?
[05:48] <BassVI_96> it could be, at least to have some reference handy
[05:49] <BassVI_96> or frequent the Ubuntu site
[05:50] <bray90820> I tried :w tto save hen :wq to quit but the changes arn't saved when i open it again
[05:51] <qin> BassVI_96: man man; you have it already, now go donate to Lunix Fundation for giving you free reference, also check Ubuntu Manual, Linux Documentation Project and some more Awesome and Free resources online...
[05:51] <qin> !manual | BassVI_96
[05:52] <qin> bray90820: does file changes after: echo "test line" > file_name; ?
[05:53] <bray90820> Nevermind don't listen to me
[05:54] <qin> *Linux Fundation
[05:54] <qin> bray90820: ok.
[05:58] <BassVI_96> qin, I'll definitely donate, when I get paid, but I'd quit a job on the 13th and didn't get my direct deposit on Thursday
[06:04] <qin> BassVI_96: I rather ment that Linux offers amass of free and very well organised learning material giving you as much base knowledge as you need before taking a dip into complex issues, rather than mugging you. Buying any book with idea that it is anyway better that existing free resources seems to be incorrect, http://www.tldp.org/ is enough to make you good allrounder in Linux, add wikipedia and some google to it ;)
[06:17] <pvl1> !desktop BassVI_96
[06:18] <pvl1> !desktop | BassVI_96
[06:19] <pvl1> qin I thought linus just does it out of bordem :p
[06:19] <pvl1> seriously though. where can I donate
[06:22] <pvl1> !apt | BassVI_96
[06:30] <cryorus> Hello, question. I'm on xubuntu using xorg-edgers with an ATI video card. My monitor gets like a 2cm gap at the top of the screen. Anyone knows something about it?
[06:33] <pvl1> cryorus look into underscanning or overscanning
[06:33] <cryorus> pvl1, how do i look into that? im an amateur at this :/
[06:34] <pvl1> Cyrus do you have cccm or catalyst control center or anything
[06:35] <pvl1> what kind of monitor btw cryorus
[06:35] <cryorus> samsung syncmaster 733nw
[06:35] <cryorus> nope i dont have catalyst
[06:35] <cryorus> im afraid to install it, it screws my drivers everytime i do, pvl1
[06:36] <cryorus> last time i got to instal fglrx, i got a blackscreen before loginscreen
[06:36] <cryorus> had to remove and installed xorg-edgers
[06:37] <pvl1> cryorus I indeestand
[06:37] <pvl1> however I was a le to have a control panel for edgers at one point
[06:38] <pvl1> forgot what I did tbh
[06:38] <pvl1> cryorus ask in ##hardware
[06:38] <pvl1> theyll b able to help better
[06:38] <cryorus> thank you very much mate :)
[06:41] <lickalott> gents, is there a way to display the GPU temp within a terminal window?
[06:41] <pvl1> no problem
[06:41] <pvl1> cryorus sorry wish I could help more
[06:41] <pvl1> yes, and it depends on things
[06:42] <pvl1> lm-sensors package has something. official drivers have something
[06:42] <lickalott> thats it!
[06:42] <lickalott> tks
[06:42] <pvl1> np
[06:42] <pvl1> !wine | BassVI_96
[06:43] <Hornet> possibly a daft question, but what does {a} mean after a deb package name?
[06:43] <Hornet> can't google it due to the nature of the beast
[06:43] <pvl1> literally that
[06:44] <pvl1> ?
[06:44] <Hornet> no?
[06:44] <pvl1> {a}
[06:44] <Hornet> half of the packages in the list have that after them
[06:44] <Hornet> guessing it's a flag for archived or something
[06:44] <pvl1> I mean is that the literal string
[06:44] <Hornet> but I can't confirm
[06:44] <pvl1> oh
[06:44] <Hornet> yes that
[06:44] <Hornet> libsvn1{a}
[06:45] <pvl1> thats weird I havent seen it... or noticed. what are you using
[06:45] <Hornet> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[06:45] <Hornet>   autoconf automake autotools-dev{a} binutils{a}
[06:45] <Hornet> etc
[06:45] <Hornet> ubuntu lts
[06:45] <pvl1> I meant just apt-get?
[06:45] <Hornet> aptitude install asd
[06:45] <Hornet> + sudo obv
[06:47] <pvl1> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=23510
[06:47] <pvl1> Hornet ^
[06:48] <Hornet> aha
[06:48] <Hornet> http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/blog/entry/aptitude-0.4.10-released/ explains it
[06:48] <Hornet> cheers, how'd you find that?
[06:48] <Hornet> pita to google things like this
[06:48] <Hornet> even quotes won't help
[06:49] <pvl1> I searched { and found out its called a bracket
[06:49] <pvl1> then I did aptitude debian bracket
[06:50] <pvl1> I go sleep now
[06:50] <pvl1> nighty night
[06:52] <somsip> pvl1: braces http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket
[07:07] <budi_> can linux/ubuntu remastered more than 4gb? ... aka can be burned onto dvd2L (sorry for my bad english)
[07:08] <pi___> budi_: hi, what do you mean, remastered?
[07:08] <budi_> ya ... I usually use remastersys
[07:09] <pi___> budi_: burning on DVD is usually no problem
[07:17] <BassVI_96> if I backup my firefox & thunderbird settings, using mozbackup in windows, I can import those settings to the linux versions installed with ubuntu?
[07:19] <Adrenaline|2> I am new to ubuntu
[07:19] <enchilado> Okay
[07:19] <BassVI_96> me too
[07:20] <Adrenaline|2> cool
[07:20] <Adrenaline|2> yea I am pretty much clueless starting from square one
[07:20] <Adrenaline|2> any tips?
[07:20] <Adrenaline|2> where to learn about it?
[07:20] <BassVI_96> probably through the web site
[07:21] <Adrenaline|2> yea...
[07:21] <Adrenaline|2> kk
[07:21] <BassVI_96> I've been getting my butt soundly kicked, except for some help I got here earlier
[07:21] <fibz_> through the website, the forum, launchpad, IRC and software center, you should be covered :)
[07:22] <Adrenaline|2> okay thanks...yea I basically just taught myself HTML and am learning all the basics on my own
[07:22] <Adrenaline|2> this is my frist time with IRC too
[07:22] <Adrenaline|2> probably shouldnt put that out there haha
[07:22] <Adrenaline|2> okay..off to the site i go
[07:22] <Adrenaline|2> take care
[07:22] <BassVI_96> it's actually good to know that much
[07:23] <Adrenaline|2> can you add people on this thing?
[07:23] <BassVI_96> I may be new to ubuntu, but I'm not new to IRC
[07:23] <Adrenaline|2> BassVI_96: oh yea? this might be a stupid question
[07:23] <Adrenaline|2> but what is IRC primarily good for
[07:23] <Adrenaline|2> any type of information?
[07:23] <BassVI_96> comminications/chat, basically
[07:24] <Adrenaline|2> yea..is it anonymous?
[07:24] <fibz_> Adrenaline|2, for chat see #ubuntu-offtopic or one of the many freenode chatrooms :)
[07:24] <Adrenaline|2> disregard that last
[07:24] <Adrenaline|2> okay thaks
[07:24] <Adrenaline|2> fibz
[07:25] <Adrenaline|2> hey can you save people'
[07:25] <Adrenaline|2> s tags
[07:25] <Adrenaline|2> say i wanted to talk to one of you guys in the future
[07:25] <somsip> Adrenaline|2: in this channel, you just ask a question and if someone can help they will
[07:25] <duoi> how can i repack the ubuntu ISO so that it is permenantly live and the bootloader doesn't ask me whether or not I want to install?
[07:26] <Adrenaline|2> okay thanks
[07:26] <somsip> duoi: you install it
[07:26] <duoi> somsip, want to fit it onto a CD
[07:26] <somsip> !persistence | duoi (unless you mean this)
[07:26]  * BassVI_96 peeking through the channels list
[07:27] <somsip> !alis | BassVI_96
[07:27] <duoi> Nope, no persistence. I just want an ISO that doesn't prompt for boot, and boots straight to desktop.
[07:27] <duoi> Is there any part of the ISO I could modify in order to make this happen?
[07:32] <kaller> hey
[07:32] <kaller> do people actually talkhere?
[07:32] <onlty> yes
[07:33] <onlty> it is usually active
[07:33] <somsip> kaller: you ask quesitons and people answer if they can
[07:33] <kaller> well.....i got a difficult question
[07:34] <pi___> kaller: put question
[07:34] <helmut_> hi
[07:34] <duoi> anybody have a solution for me? :)
[07:34] <pi___> duoi: any iso can be modified
[07:35] <duoi> pi___, do you know what part I need to modify? going through the ISO I couldn't find which part to modify
[07:35] <pi___> duoi: what you need?
[07:36] <duoi> pi___, i want to remove the bootscreen prompt that asks whether or not i want to "try" or install. i want it to default to try.
[07:36] <duoi> with 1 second timeout or whatever
[07:37] <pi___> duoi: try to configure boot.conf or somethink like that
[07:37] <kaller> what if you had a laptop, a toshiba qosmio g25-av513 and the original old biosd on it and couldn't get an OS install, installed ubuntu and had to install it to a sata drive on another computer and put it back in the mpc and have been running it but know it's not setup right cuz the install did it on another pc?
[07:38] <pi___> kaller: please, simplify
[07:39] <kaller> that is simplified cuz it explains from start to now
[07:39] <pi___> kaller: yousually, for instalation is used install CD, USB
[07:39] <g0tcha> kaller, so your asking if ubuntu might cause problems cuz its been installed on a different machine?
[07:40] <g0tcha> pi___, apperantly he cant install it directly cuz his bios is damanaged... i think
[07:40] <kaller> no, how to install the stuff that it is missing cuz i installed it from another pc
[07:40] <pi___> g0tcha: aha
[07:41] <g0tcha> kaller, why dont you try to fix the damaged bios so you can install ubuntu directly on your laptop?
[07:41] <kaller> the bios is old and has no real options and uses raid for drives and creates a huge install issue if you try other OS's
[07:41] <kaller> intel has no update that i can find to add the custom bios
[07:41] <pi___> kaller: then floppy disk
[07:42] <BassVI_96> have you tried to go to the toshiba web site, to see if there's a bios for that model?
[07:42] <kaller> the pc ins';t old enough for floppy and the usb's don't read cuz old bios
[07:43] <BassVI_96> forget what I asked...you already answered...oops
[07:43] <pi___> kaller: then, you can try to remove disk and try to install somewhere else
[07:43] <kaller> there is an update but only disk and whatever....no matter what it reqiores a boot mgr and even creating a boot usb even if i could get it to read
[07:43] <BassVI_96> burn it to a CD/DVD?
[07:44] <kaller> cd dvd was damaged
[07:44] <kaller> 6- for repair and would rather not do that
[07:44] <BassVI_96> the drive still work?
[07:44] <sgo11> hi, when I run "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=8192" where /dev/sdb is a usb disk, finally, i got "dd: error writing ‘/dev/sdb’: No space left on device". is this normal? I thought dd would stop/quit normally when the device is full.
[07:44] <kaller> 60
[07:45] <kaller> lol....not an easy problem...i've been messing with it for 5 days
[07:45] <pi___> sgo11: its like that usb disk is smaller then source disk
[07:45] <BassVI_96> if the optical drive on the laptop still works, I'm thinking you could try, on another computer, to burn the bios for the laptop to a CD/DVD
[07:45] <sgo11> pi___, is that possible to let dd stop/quit automatically when the target device is full? if so, how? thanks.
[07:45] <kaller> i did sudo apt-get update and upgrade
[07:46] <kaller> but i can tell it doesn't have the full driver install to have all the drivers of my system
[07:46] <pi___> sgo11: hmmm, that i dont know, i mean no, but there is somethink like join and split
[07:47] <kaller> yeah
[07:48] <kaller> besides no ifo on anything like that, but since that is the issue it doesn't read the usb drives
[07:48] <kaller> info"
[07:48] <sgo11> pi___, ok. thanks.
[07:48] <pi___> sgo11: or maybe, simply, bigger usb disk
[07:49] <kaller> get a 32 for 20 at BB
[07:49] <kaller> 32g"
[07:49] <sgo11> pi___, no. I just want dd quits automatically when the device is full. I want to write the zero to the entire device.
[07:49] <BassVI_96> using the optical drive is about the only thing I can think of, if it won't read USB
[07:50] <kaller> tdo what i did
[07:50] <kaller> take the drive out and
[07:50] <pi___> sgo11: actually, dd will do it
[07:51] <sgo11> pi___, no, it keeps running after showing that error. I have to kill the command by ctrl+c.
[07:51] <kaller> wriote the live install iso to the drive in another pc....the differenc eis that you sohuld put the drive int he other pc and then boot it
[07:52] <BassVI_96> kaller: that's what I'm trying to suggest for the bios, as well
[07:53] <pi___> sgo11: and it is problem?
[07:53] <BassVI_96> if the laptop won't read USB, burning a bios to a CD or DVD may be the only solution
[07:53] <BassVI_96> if that works, the ubuntu install should
[07:53] <kaller> can't....bootmgr missing, usb not loading cuz crap bios, cd drive broke
[07:54] <sgo11> pi___, I don't know what dd does when that error raised. does it keep writing zero to somewhere else? or keep writing from the start of the device?
[07:55] <pi___> sgo11: no, certainly dont writing somewhere else
[07:55] <BassVI_96> almost sounds to me like it's time to put a fork in that laptop
[07:55] <kaller> external usb dvd not functioning cuz i believe the usb drives aren't fully installed
[07:55] <kaller> naw
[07:56] <kaller> i can run a 14 bit 286
[07:56] <pi___> sgo11: its like, if you burn on 700MB CD 900MB, what is possible with force
[07:56] <pi___> sgo11: and it is nonsense, ofcourse
[07:56] <sgo11> pi___, if dd does not do anything when that error raises, I am fine with it. But I don't think that is the case. because ctrl+c can not kill the command very quickly. i have to type many ctrl+c to kill that command. that means dd is running busy with writes which I have no idea what it does.
[07:57] <kaller> just that ubuntu has little usb support and seems to be handles by an app instead of the OS (like plug and play)
[07:57] <pi___> sgo11: for using dd, you must know, if dd can copy or not, right disk spaces
[07:58] <BassVI_96> I'm new to ubuntu, myself, but I'm fairly good on the hardware side
[07:58] <kaller> ok...i have an easy queation
[07:58] <pi___> sgo11:  df, or df -h
[07:58] <sgo11> pi___, I just want to write zero to the entire device. that's all.
[07:58] <kaller> how to install indows * in vertualbox
[07:58] <kaller> windows"
[07:58] <kaller> using updated and upgraded 13.10
[07:59] <prainworker> good morning
[07:59]  * BassVI_96 leaves that one alone...out of his lane
[07:59] <prainworker> kaller what could it be if i go in software sources
[07:59] <pi___> sgo11: you want somethink like format? :-)
[07:59] <sgo11> pi___, yeah. but unrecoverable. normal format will make the data unsafe and recoverable by some programs.
[07:59] <kaller> what prain?
[08:00] <prainworker> to the additional driver tap an select the driver for my card it allways jumps back to the open source driver
[08:00] <somsip> !shred | sgo11 (if this helps)
[08:00] <somsip> !info shred | sgo11 (if this helps)
[08:00] <pi___> sgo11: ok, use fdisk, third times
[08:00] <sgo11> somsip, thanks. I have shred in my system.
[08:01] <somsip> sgo11: bot was not helpful there... http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-securely-destroy-wipe-data-on-hard-drives-with-shred
[08:01] <prainworker> have nvidia gtx 560 ti and would like to use the nv driver for gaming
[08:01] <BassVI_96> it's 4 am where I'm at...need to grab some sleep
[08:01] <BassVI_96> night all
[08:01] <prainworker> fresh out of the box install
[08:01] <prainworker> 10 min ago
[08:01] <sgo11> somsip, thanks. :)
[08:01] <somsip> prainworker: any reason why you want to use nv and not the proprietary driver?
[08:01] <pi___> sgo11: or there are some utils on some different recovery CDs
[08:02] <prainworker> i dont know is all the openGL stuff support under current driver
[08:02] <pi___> sgo11: liki Bart CD etc.
[08:02] <kaller> prain....update and upgrade
[08:02] <somsip> prainworker: last I heard, gaming performance was better under the prop driver.
[08:02] <prainworker> sudo apt-get update and dann the same with upgrade
[08:02] <kaller> goto terminal type sudo app-get update
[08:03] <kaller> then type the samehing with upgrade
[08:03] <kaller> then adain with update
[08:03] <kaller> and again"
[08:03] <sgo11> pi___, ok. thanks. I think shred can do what I want. although my old method dd should be enough too. :)
[08:04] <pi___> sgo11: yes :-)
[08:04] <kaller> sudo apt=get update
[08:04] <kaller> sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:04] <prainworker> he is working
[08:04] <kaller> then sudo apt-date update
[08:04] <kaller> again
[08:05] <somsip> !who | kaller
[08:05] <kaller> update allows a few more upgrades to run
[08:05] <kaller> prain knows i'm talking to him
[08:05] <geirha> sgo11: if you only fill it with zeros, data may still be recoverable. shred will make it even harder.
[08:06] <somsip> kaller: it helps other people to follow the thread if you use their name
[08:07] <kaller> lame...people have been doing that...free information, we just want to regulate your words
[08:07] <somsip> kaller: oh grow up
[08:08] <kaller> damn grown, not gonna cow tow to people that can't read right
[08:08] <tuxico> hola
[08:08] <prainworker> still the same kaller
[08:09] <sgo11> geirha, oh. so shred is actually doing "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=8192" in the background. right?
[08:09] <somsip> prainworker: what is it you're trying to do?
[08:09] <kaller> gotta reboot
[08:09] <prainworker> or wait know it stays gray an not jumping back wait a sek
[08:09] <kaller> lol
[08:09] <prainworker> somsip
[08:09] <somsip> prainworker: all on one line helps :)
[08:10] <tuxico> hiii
[08:10] <kaller> hze lost me
[08:10] <geirha> somsip: no, it writes random bytes multiple times, then finally a pass filling it with zeros
[08:10] <kaller> he"
[08:10] <somsip> geirha: not me mate
[08:10] <geirha> sgo11: ^
[08:10] <prainworker> under software updates ill try to select 331.38  say apply changes but it jumps back to the opensource driver
[08:11] <kaller> do it from the terminal
[08:11] <sgo11> geirha, I saw your message. :) ok. that means dd way is even safer than shred.
[08:11] <somsip> prainworker: so you're trying to install nvidia-current drivers? For what version of ubuntu?
[08:11] <kaller> then try it from the power button menu in about system
[08:11] <prainworker> somsip 14.04
[08:12] <somsip> prainworker: you really need to ask in #ubuntu+1 as 14.04 is still in beta and not supported here. I appreciate people will try to help you here. but it's not the bext place
[08:12] <kaller> it installs on the term update/upgrade and installs on the update button in about system
[08:12] <geirha> sgo11: it depends on whether you just want to wipe the partition table, or whether you want to make sure the data it contained is extremely hard to retrieve
[08:13] <kaller> i would bet that is the same as mine installing it yesterday and upgrading and updating today
[08:13] <prainworker> yesterday they told me i should change to this version hat 12.04 running and know i am told that this is still a beta  wowww
[08:13] <kaller> you don't have to wipe a second drive if you mount in term either
[08:14] <somsip> prainworker: if you've definitely installed 14.04, it is still beta for about another month.
[08:14] <kaller> 13.10 is beta also
[08:14] <sgo11> geirha, I want my data is as unrecoverable as possible. I think dd is safer than shred.
[08:14] <prainworker> ok i only need a version where the new intuos wacom tables are support and in 12.04 that was not the case
[08:15] <prainworker> 14.04 worked out of the box
[08:15] <somsip> sgo11: shred does multiple passes and finishes off with dd if=/dev/zero IIRC.
[08:15] <kaller> so did 13.10
[08:15] <geirha> sgo11: then shred is what you want
[08:15] <prainworker> yesterday i downloaded the nvidia driver from the websit and manually installed it
[08:15] <kaller> ididn't see 14.04
[08:15] <prainworker> was working fine
[08:15] <sgo11> geirha, somsip ok. got it. thanks a lot.
[08:15] <prainworker> but software center did not work anymore
[08:16] <prainworker> broken file cache
[08:16] <kaller> i isntalled nvidia when it asked on term upgrade
[08:16] <somsip> prainworker: so you're getting a bit messy already by installing from nvidia website. You *should* be using official packages to be as safe as possible, and the packages for 14.04 aren't finalised yet because it's still in beta...
[08:16] <kaller> works greate...been playing fps's today
[08:17] <kaller> (i'm watching tv and typing)
[08:18] <kaller> well, i had 2 questions and no one has had anything to say
[08:18] <prainworker> somsip with channel i could ask for my stuff
[08:18] <somsip> prainworker: #ubuntu+1 but it may be quiet until the west wakes up.
[08:18] <prainworker> ok
[08:18] <kaller> the west is awake
[08:19] <kaller> it's only 3:18am
[08:20] <kaller> s
[08:20] <kaller> so no one has any info on installing windows on the new virtualbox?
[08:21] <kaller> backl to google and messing around
[08:21] <llutz> kaller: new? 4.3 is out since a long time. you may ask in #vbox
[08:22] <kaller> i downl;oaded it earlier and seems to want to mess with me
[08:24] <angel_> hello
[08:25] <kaller> more of what my problem with vbox is that abuntu won't let me copy my download outed ISO to the virtual drive cuz it errors
[08:25] <kgee> hi need some help
[08:25] <kgee> i can't seem to play a movie -How.to.Train.Your.Dragon.2.2014.DVDSCREENER.x264.XviD-zmK.avi
[08:26] <kaller> lol
[08:26] <kgee> codec problem
[08:26] <kaller> yeah
[08:26] <kaller> download the update patch that came with your install and you didn't click
[08:27] <kgee> sorry bit new to this
[08:27] <kaller> watch 10 things to do on ubunto 13.40 on youtube
[08:27] <kaller> ubuntu"
[08:28] <kgee> sorry still useing 12.04
[08:28] <kaller> no matter...he has one for that also
[08:28] <kaller> just put 12.04 in
[08:28] <kgee> ok will check it out
[08:28] <kgee> thanks
[08:29] <kaller> 10 Things to do After Installing Ubuntu 12.04
[08:29] <kaller> it's called exactly
[08:31] <kaller> imagine that...a question and an answer, with a video tutorial to boot
[08:32] <ksuhku> "Unless you have opted out we will send your keystrokes to third parties including: Facebook, Twitter, BBC and Amazon." -- http://www.ubuntu.com/privacy-policy For the whole list of third parties, see http://www.ubuntu.com/privacy-policy/third-parties
[08:33] <kaller> i opt out
[08:34] <ksuhku> I think shit like this should definitely be opt in
[08:34] <ksuhku> this is just abusing people who don't happen to read the privacy policy
[08:34] <kaller> whatever, like most times people think they know what they are talking about but are commonly confused
[08:35] <angel_> hello. do someone here know about iftop?
[08:35] <somsip> angel_: just ask the question and someone will answer if they can
[08:35] <prainworker> ok i am pack ! can you please give me the install comand again
[08:37] <prainworker> prainworker@prainworker-MS-7748:~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia331
[08:37] <prainworker> [sudo] password for prainworker:
[08:37] <prainworker> Reading package lists... Done
[08:37] <prainworker> Building dependency tree
[08:37] <prainworker> Reading state information... Done
[08:37] <prainworker> E: Unable to locate package nvidia331
[08:37] <unopaste> prainworker you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:39] <sgo11> prainworker, you forgot "-"
[08:39] <sgo11> prainworker, sudo apt-get install nvidia-331
[08:39] <prainworker> thx
[08:39] <sgo11> prainworker, you have to remove old nvidia packages first if you installed any.
[08:40] <kgee> kaller  there is a codec  .ex file and a note saying -Install the codecs from the /Codec/ Directory.
[08:40] <prainworker> sgo11 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7145251/
[08:41] <somsip> kgee: if that's from a torrent, beware! Sounds like an attempt to give you a virus, which should not work on linux anyway
[08:42] <kgee> no its from newshosting
[08:42] <angel_> i've installed iftop on my ubuntu server and when open it i've found some strange thing. why my domain at the left is different here is the screenshot: http://www160.lunapic.com/do-not-link-here-use-hosting-instead/139565021664301?6014569113 it should not be live.orangesoft.by
[08:42] <angel_> it should be my domain
[08:42] <somsip> kgee: it's an illegal doanload, so same principle applies
[08:42] <somsip> *download
[08:42] <sgo11> prainworker, are you sure "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" has no output?
[08:43] <kgee> never had this prob before
[08:43] <prainworker> befor something was fish wish x
[08:43] <prainworker> i will try again wait
[08:44] <prainworker> yes know the same! no output
[08:45] <sgo11> prainworker, I don't know why you can't install "lib32gcc1". I have it in my system.
[08:46] <alket> Hi, some fan in my lap top is going crazy, any solutions ?
[08:46] <prainworker> sgo11 to i need latest nv driver! or will the open source one work fine for openGL apps
[08:47] <simon_> hej
[08:47] <simon_> Anybody here?
[08:47] <somsip> prainworker: told you already - nv driver is poor for gaming (no 3d support IIRC)
[08:47] <simon_> This is working
[08:47] <fidel_> simon_: there is always someone ;)
[08:47] <simon_> great :D
[08:47] <prainworker> sorry did not see the post
[08:48] <simon_> fidel_: Im getting educated in Linux so im just seeing if this works. Is this a support channel?
[08:48] <prainworker> so i should stick with the driver i have running
[08:48] <sgo11> prainworker, for nvidia card, I think it's better use proprietary driver.
[08:48] <prainworker> waaaaa
[08:48] <DJones> prainworker: Are you using 14.04? Thats what you said in #ubuntu+1 before you left that channel, if you are, you need to ask in #ubuntu+1, there can be different versions of drivers in 14.04 that aren't present in 12.04 etc
[08:48] <somsip> prainworker: it is *best* to use the officially supported and provided driver. Doesn't mean it will be perfect, but it should have the least issues
[08:49] <xar-> simon_: IRC lesson #1; type /topic in your client.
[08:49] <fidel_> simon_: yes it is- most channels to mention its "topic" in the topic. usually a line in the top of your irc client or checkable using the /topic command
[08:49] <gnumdk> Will 14.04 released with a broken IM? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1261060
[08:49] <simon_> i see guys.
[08:49] <somsip> gnumdk: it's not released yet. Support and discussion in $ubuntu+1
[08:49] <simon_> Thanks for responding
[08:49] <gnumdk> ok
[08:49] <somsip> gnumdk: sorry - #ubuntu+1
[08:50] <sgo11> DJones, I am using 14.04. nvidia-331 is the latest nvidia driver here.
[08:50] <sgo11> I have no idea why he has unmet dependencies problem.
[08:52] <prainworker> sgo11 i am back
[08:52] <prainworker> i did change my download location to the main server and reload pack tree
[08:52] <prainworker> the austrian server update server was allready puggy some time ago
[08:53] <prainworker> hhehhe
[08:53] <prainworker> really funny it works
[08:53] <prainworker> can you belive that
[08:53] <sgo11> prainworker, what works?
[08:54] <prainworker> sgo11  i changed my download location from austrian server to main server did update pkg tree
[08:54] <sgo11> prainworker, oh. after that, you can install nvidia-331. right?
[08:54] <przemek> Hello , is it good idea to make a software raid on SSD disks ?
[08:55] <prainworker> and now it install the nvidia-331 normal right now its building modules for generic
[08:55] <sgo11> prainworker, ok. cool. good luck.
[08:55] <xar-> przemek: "good idea" is relative; depends on your objectives.
[08:56] <prainworker> sgo11 after the install form the pkg to i need to to something more#
[08:56] <prainworker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7145306/
[08:56] <sgo11> prainworker, no. you just need to reboot your system. and then, if you can run "nvidia-settings" command without any problems, that means you are using nvidia driver.
[08:57] <prainworker> ok will go for reboot
[08:57] <przemek> xar-: 4x128 GB server with ubuntu server onboard server created for vpn services
[08:58] <xar-> przemek: who knows, you've provided no real data about application I/O requirements. You're not going to very good answers here.
[08:58] <jbermudes> Does anyone know if I had a capture card, would multiple programs be able to read from the same card at the same time?
[08:58] <xar-> I recommend you "try and find out"
[09:06] <chinya> привет
[09:11] <czs> hi
[09:18] <cisconinja> whats a good small mail server,easy to setup one can setup for sole purpose for sending alerts i.e log alerts etc on a Saucy Box please
[09:21] <somsip> !info sendEmail | cisconinja (not a server, but very simple)
[09:22] <czs> I have to use kernel 2.6, can I do that with ubuntu 12.04?
[09:24] <root_> hello all
[09:25] <cisconinja> somsip: correct me if i am wrong , isn't sendEmail is the equivalent for xmail ? if so, then this is exactly what i am looking for
[09:25] <tr0n> ircing as root isnt wise, add a user and irc from that
[09:27] <llutz> !info activity-log-manager
[09:28] <k1l_> !rootirc | Guest26955
[09:32] <cisconinja> am i expected to provide my username and password for gmail in a terminal like this !!! "sendEmail -f<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-t<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-u "Message title" -m "The body of the message" -s smtp.gmail.com:25 -xu username -xp password"
[09:33] <Guest1938> hei
[09:36] <CODE_> any day ubuntu beta final 14.4 release?
[09:36] <k1l_> !trusty | CODE_
[09:37] <vozz> When mounting a ntfs usb drive, it tells me "mount: warning: /mnt/winusb seems to be mounted read-only." How do I fix this? ntfs-3g is installed
[09:37] <Rick_> Hi all! how can I change sda ti sdb and vice versa.. on gparted
[09:37] <Rick_> to sdb i meant
[09:38] <dupingping> Hi boys
[09:38] <k1l_> Rick_: you cant. you need to switch the cables because its set after the detection order from the mainboard
[09:38] <dupingping> please help me. please please
[09:39] <Rick_> ok, thanks
[09:39] <dupingping> I take a bug about IBus.
[09:39] <dupingping> I want to use IBus without it bug!
[09:41] <HiDeHo> Hi all just wondering if there is a gnome version of ubuntu around.
[09:41] <k1l_> HiDeHo: there is, its called ubuntu gnome
[09:42] <k1l_> HiDeHo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME
[09:48] <somsip> cisconinja: not sure what xmail is so can't comment. Try this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man1/sendEmail.1.html
[09:49] <thom__> I figured out how to install Google Chrome in 14.04. The software center wouldn't install it. I downloaded the file from the terminal and noticed it saved it to the home folder. I then entered the same command I had tried several times and it said that I needed superuser privileges. So I entered sudo su, then I entered dpkg -i google-chrome-etc.deb and it installed fine. I then moved the other .deb files I had downloaded to the home folder and entered the dpk
[09:49] <thom__> g -i etc-etc.deb command and everything installed without any problems
[09:49] <HiDeHo> thanks k1l_ is it using the same base as the ubuntu standard - unity
[09:50] <arcimboldo>  Hi all, is there anyone using zmq instead of rabbitmq? I have trouble understanding exactly how to make it work.
[09:50] <k1l_> HiDeHo: its the same base but with some changes in the gnome-base files that got changed for unity.
[09:51] <HiDeHo> k1l_:  ok cool
[09:51] <HiDeHo> so all other ubuntu based versions such as kubuntu, xubuntu etc are all on the same base os
[09:52] <k1l_> yes
[09:52] <HiDeHo> cool
[09:52] <HiDeHo> when is the next LTS due to come out
[09:52] <k1l_> !lts | HiDeHo
[09:53] <k1l_> HiDeHo: 14.04 will be released in april 2014
[09:53] <DJones> HiDeHo: 17th April
[09:54] <HiDeHo> ok cool
[09:55] <HiDeHo> so main ubuntu will be around 17th april and the other ubuntu based versions will be shortly after
[09:55] <k1l_> HiDeHo: no, all official ubuntus will be released on the same date
[09:55] <DJones> HiDeHo: Normally all released at the same time & date
[09:55] <Sveta_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=871864  I have this problem. I had to use another OS to connect, with Ubuntu now being on a second partition.
[09:56] <Sveta_> I don't see its files from here, so I have to reboot to make every single change, I think. What can you recommend?
[09:56] <HiDeHo> k1l_:  I thought there is only one official now which is the unity one. and all other ones are now run by other companies/people
[09:57] <Guest11> Hello all , how i can find sources.list & how to edit ? thanks
[09:57] <k1l_> HiDeHo: see http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[09:57] <k1l_> Guest11: its in /etc/apt/
[09:58] <Guest11> k1l_, thans
[10:00] <HiDeHo> k1l_:  ok thanks. i wonder why mint is not mentioned there. when like the other ones its derived from ubuntu too.
[10:00] <DJones> HiDeHo: Mint isn't a release of ubuntu
[10:01] <k1l_> HiDeHo: mint is not a official ubuntu release
[10:01] <khildin> HiDeHo, you can already try 14.04: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[10:01] <DJones> HiDeHo: The official Ubuntu releases include Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu and Gnome-Ubuntu, thats all
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> HiDeHo: the mint community is entirely separate from Ubuntu's, just as Ubuntu's support is entirely separate from Debian's
[10:01] <k1l_> HiDeHo: there are nearly a abillion other ubuntu based releases. but only the mentioned are official
[10:01] <HiDeHo> k1l_:  ok Derivatives
[10:01] <HiDeHo> Ubuntu is a popular operating system and a popular starting point for people who want to create their own operating systems.
[10:01] <HiDeHo> linux mint is also built on a ubuntu base
[10:01] <HiDeHo> just saying
[10:02] <HiDeHo> ok i see so its not an official version got it
[10:02] <DJones> HiDeHo: It may be based on ubuntu, but its not an official release, its not something that would be supported here
[10:02] <k1l_> HiDeHo: yes, but its seperated from ubuntu, like ubuntu is seperated from debian. ubuntu is based on debian
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> HiDeHo: we are aware, doesnt mean it is supported here
[10:03] <jessica_> hejsan :D
[10:04] <ann-louise> halloj!
[10:04] <jessica_> där är du :D
[10:04] <HiDeHo> ActionParsnip:  you forgot ubuntu studio, ubuntu kylin, and mythubuntu, and edubuntu
[10:04] <ann-louise> här är jag Jessica :)
[10:04] <HiDeHo> i understand about mint not supported here.
[10:05] <k1l_> HiDeHo: did you read the link i gave you?
[10:05] <cisconinja> somsip: yeah the fact i have to provide my password in a plain text in the terminal , automatically triggers me to not use sendEmail
[10:05] <jessica_> Så ann-louise vad skulle vi göra här?  :P japp, det är fler här.
[10:05] <HiDeHo> so this channel is for ubuntu and official Derivatives
[10:06] <fidel_> jessica_: this channel is english - maybe use the lrealted language channel for whatever nordern-language you speak or consider keeping it english here ;)
[10:06] <k1l_> HiDeHo: yes
[10:06] <fidel_> *related*
[10:07] <HiDeHo> ok thanks noted for future reference.
[10:09]  * cisconinja not sure , if it says "ubuntu" and the title says "official Ubuntu support" i am freaking sure it is not a porn channel then!
[10:10]  * cisconinja shake his head
[10:16] <as_btc> personal package archives are cool :)
[10:16] <as_btc> I just installed the hexchat ppa :)
[10:20] <andry> quick question .. i installed a new version of libimobiledevice to /usr/local .. an older version that came with debian is installed in /usr .. i didnt want to remove it via apt-get because of its dependencies (it would remove a lot of important packages) .. so. how do i know that the libs i installed in /usr/local are preferred?
[10:20] <andry> (copied from debian, because i think you can help me, too ;P)
[10:20] <khildin> ikonia: banning someone from channel for asking questions? realy?....
[10:21] <k1l_> khildin: the user got a longtime ban for his history for making trouble.
[10:21] <ikonia> khildin: you're unaware of the reason
[10:22] <k1l_> andry: please dont mix ubuntu and debian support, thanks
[10:22] <Guest36465> hi
[10:22] <andry> it is ubuntu related, too. if you dont have an answer, dont reply, thanks
[10:23] <Guest36465> sometimes in ubuntu it automatically restart
[10:23] <ikonia> andry: the channel supports ubuntu - not debian
[10:23] <Guest36465> what's the problem?
[10:23] <ikonia> andry: please keep your debian issues in #debian (please)
[10:23] <andry> read my answer, thanks
[10:23] <DJones> andry: BUt you're not using Ubuntu, you're using Debian, they have their own support channel
[10:23] <CapitalSigma> hey all
[10:23] <CapitalSigma> is there any tol that would allow me to manage all of my dotfiles?
[10:24] <k1l_> Guest36465: see in the logs (dmesg,syslog) what happend before the reboot
[10:25] <Guest36465> sometimes my computer freezes
[10:31] <mtnbkr> Hey guys, I have been tasked with upgrading a client's 8.04 LTS server to 10.04 LTS and then to 12.04 LTS... Seems that (obviously) 8.04 LTS) is no longer suppored and the paths that apt-get update is trying to fetch from:  http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-*   do not exist.... Any help?
[10:32] <as_btc> use a cd?]
[10:32] <as_btc> mtnbkr, use a cd?
[10:32] <k1l_> !eol | mtnbkr
[10:32] <mtnbkr> This page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Hardy  is pointing me to use http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  and security.  but those no longer exists either.
[10:33] <mikecmpbll> haha
[10:33] <k1l_> mtnbkr: you need the old-releases
[10:33] <mtnbkr> ubottu: that is the URL I am using
[10:34] <mtnbkr> k1l_:
[10:34] <k1l_> mtnbkr: see the section: "requirements"
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> mtnbkr: you can use the Precise CD and upgrade the standing install
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> mtnbkr: try:   sudo do-release-upgrade   to change to Lucid
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> mtnbkr: sorry, lucid CD in the first reply I gave
[10:34] <sexyboy> hey, is there stil a chance to get free ubuntu cds from canonical>? i'd liek to give some away on a charity event
[10:35] <Guest45657> guys my son accidental ran "mysqladmin -u root -p'password' password newpassword" and now i cant access mysql database to change it back please let
[10:35] <mtnbkr> as_btc: Ahhh I see that page now. THanks
[10:35] <robotti^> sexyboy: no
[10:35] <Guest45657> i keep getting the access denied
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest45657: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[10:35] <OerHeks> sexyboy, no, shitit has stopped
[10:35] <OerHeks> shipit*
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: ha!
[10:36] <sexyboy> okay, too bad
[10:36] <k1l_> mtnbkr: did you change the sources.list like its told in the wiki page?
[10:36] <robotti^> sexyboy: http://blog.canonical.com/2011/04/05/shipit-comes-to-an-end/
[10:36] <jpds> OerHeks: Oh, well done.
[10:36] <Guest45657> ActionParsnip i tried that but when i got to "mysql -u root" i get the access denied error
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest45657: have you asked in #mysql
[10:36] <sexyboy> thx for the info
[10:36] <mtnbkr> ActionParsnip: OK... But, from previous reading, I think Isaw that before a release upgrade I need to be fully pathed/updated on the version I am at. - getoo user here, so this is not my typical system.
[10:36] <Guest45657> nope
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> mtnbkr: as far as I am aware, you don't need to fully patched OS
[10:37] <mtnbkr> k1l_: Am reading that page now.
[10:38] <MrT-RSA> Hi im quite new to linux. For some reason 12.04 works perfectly on my university wifi network but 13.10 cant connect.  Im about to try 12.04 on my laptop. Before I do that is there something else im missing?
[10:40] <as_btc> mtnbkr, yup, download your ubuntu version, boot from it and upgrade :)
[10:40] <mtnbkr> ActionParsnip: really?   So I can (safely) do the upgrade using  either    sudo do-release-upgrade    to Lucid  or use the Lucid CD without fully patching as I had read somewhere a while back?
[10:40] <as_btc> that's what I meant when I said "with the cd"
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> MrT-RSA: 13.10 support is about to expire but 12.04 is supported til April 2017...why would you wnat to use 13.10?
[10:41] <mtnbkr> P.S. This is a server that a client has not let us update/patch is a while... Do to IT dept changes, and exec changes so I am kind of in a bind and do appreciate the help
[10:41] <k1l_> or just changing the sources.list as mentioned in the wiki page he said he knows already and do all a regular upgrade.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> mtnbkr: its how it is done. I dont upgrade releases I always clean install so I am not sure about 'safely' but the commad you gave is the method
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> mtnbkr: as long as you have backups, you can go crazy. If it is a VM and you have space, take a snapshot
[10:42] <maedox> mtnbkr: do-release-upgrade is not safe at all, but it usually works fine.
[10:42] <as_btc> MrT-RSA, I downgraded from 13.10 to 12.04 LTS as I found 13.10 very buggy
[10:42] <as_btc> lots of error notifications
[10:42] <k1l_> as_btc: downgrades are not supported at all
[10:42] <as_btc> as in
[10:42] <mtnbkr> ActionParsnip: this is a Zimbra server and from those docs, 10.0.4 LTS is required (prolly minimum) which I will check before going too far. :)
[10:42] <as_btc> fresh install
[10:42] <as_btc> of 12.04
[10:42] <as_btc> not in place
[10:43] <mtnbkr> maedox:   not safe?  arg...
[10:43] <MrT-RSA> No particular reason Im using 13.10.   Tried ubuntu for the first time due to Windows 8 ticking me off.
[10:43] <MrT-RSA> Ill install 12.04 and see if that works.
[10:43] <hemangpatel> Hi
[10:43] <mtnbkr> ActionParsnip: yeah, the ONLY reason I agreed to do this is because it is on a VMware ESXi server and I should be able to do snapshots along the way
[10:44] <hemangpatel> Is there any way to install http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/php/php5-cli  in my old version of ubuntu
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> hemangpatel: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[10:45] <mtnbkr> as_btc: ActionParsnip   also I read that I need to go to 10.0.4 LTS from 8.0.4 before jumping to 12.0.4 LTS... so...
[10:45] <maedox> mtnbkr: Basically what it does is change your package sources to the new version and running apt-get dist-upgrade. There is probably more magic behind the scenes, but what I meant by not safe is that I've seen upgrade issues a few times myself when upgrading server installations. What I do is create a replica server and upgrade that one, so that I don't have
[10:45] <maedox> to change the master if something goes awry.
[10:46] <hemangpatel> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 11.10
[10:47] <mtnbkr> maedox: my only issue is that I have  2.8TB SAN volume mounted (which should not matter 'cause it is not "part of the VM", but the 250GB volume is so cloning it is not gonna be very fast, but a snapshot should be OK (after dismounting the SAN)
[10:47] <k1l_> maedox: mtnbkr yes, it does some more than just change sources and run dist-upgrade. but it is quite safe. but of course there is always a risk that something can go wrong, so backups are suggested
[10:48] <mtnbkr> OK, so guys... if I need to go to 10.04 first, how do I instruct the do-upgrade to limit to that verison?
[10:49] <klander> hey guys, i'm in a bit of a fix and could use some help. My rackspace server throws errors while trying to install anything using apt-get, saying the device is full
[10:49] <k1l_> mtnbkr: again: do as suggested in the wiki page
[10:50] <chemist^> Hello everyone. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS with unity - How do i turn off the annoying "Blank screen" a.k.a. "Turn off monitor" after a specific period of time? I've tried the power settings, screensaver, gnome-tweak-tool with no success, every time i use Unity as my DE the screen goes blank after 10 minutes or so. How do i turn this off, so it never turns the screen off?
[10:51] <as_btc> chemist^, that could be your monitor itself
[10:51] <chemist^> as_btc, no it's not
[10:52] <chemist^> as_btc, when i use a different DE it does not happen...only with unity... and i am switching from time to time from my computer monitor to a LCD tv via HDMI, the same happens there.
[10:52] <as_btc> chemist^, that would be your screen lock
[10:52] <chemist^> So it's not the monitor, it's the settings somewhere.
[10:52] <as_btc> try all settings brightness and lock lock off
[10:53] <chemist^> hmm
[10:53] <chemist^> where is screen lock?
[10:53] <chemist^> oh...wait a sec
[10:53] <as_btc> Brightness and Lock
[10:53] <festaans> Hi, I want to add and set a screen resolution on start-up. I manage to set the resolution manually using https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9738128. How can I set this permanently?
[10:53] <chemist^> as_btc, lock is OFF and turn off monitor after....is also off
[10:53] <xar-> klander: what's up?
[10:53] <as_btc> chemist^, ok
[10:54] <Walex> chemist^: there are as you discovered half a dozen places where monitor power settings can be changed... Including the monitor itself.
[10:54] <as_btc> then wait 10 minutes and see
[10:54] <as_btc> chemist^, your screen shouldn't turn off now
[10:54] <chemist^> as_btc,??
[10:54] <chemist^> i did not change any settings, it was already set to OFF, but it still turns it off
[10:54] <as_btc> you just changed lock to off?
[10:55] <mtnbkr> k1l_: re: wiki page. OK will do.  Thanks
[10:55] <as_btc> chemist^, you should post your gnome log
[10:56] <chemist^> Walex, but if i switch to my TV via HDMI the same happens....only in Unity
[10:56] <as_btc> or unity log
[10:56] <as_btc> or whatever ubuntu's DE is called
[10:56] <Guest45657> I am trying to change mysql password after this command was ran by mistake  mysqladmin -u root -p'password' password newpassword"
[10:56] <chemist^> i have KDE, xFce also installed
[10:56] <as_btc> that's ok
[10:56] <chemist^> and it does not go off while using them
[10:56] <chemist^> only in unity
[10:56] <as_btc> as I said
[10:57] <as_btc> post your unity log
[10:57] <Guest45657> i got to step 3 "mysql -u root mysql" on here http://ubuntu.flowconsult.at/en/mysql-set-change-reset-root-password/
[10:57] <as_btc> I'm not a mind reader :)
[10:57] <Guest45657> i keep got access denied for user root@localhost
[10:57] <Guest45657> please help
[10:58] <chemist^> as_btc, i'll try checking out with dconf-editor
[10:58] <chemist^> to be sure
[10:58] <as_btc> no need
[10:58] <as_btc> use gsettings
[10:58] <as_btc> dconf-editor doesn't come with ubuntu
[10:59] <as_btc> gsettings comes stock
[10:59] <as_btc> they manipulate the same schemas
[10:59] <klander> xar-: cant seem to install mysql-server, i get an error saying my disk space is full
[11:00] <klander> but dh -h does not show anything too large
[11:00] <xar-> klander: pastebin the result of df -m
[11:00] <chemist^> as_btc, i don't have gsettings installed, so i believe it does not come stock...anywayz i found in dconf-editor under xorg -> gnome -> desktop -> screensaver  i had a tick at "idle-activation-enabled"
[11:01] <chemist^> so i've disabled that now
[11:01] <as_btc> chemist^, gsettings is stock here on ubuntu 12.04 lts
[11:01] <klander> xar-: http://pastebin.com/wK33V9z7
[11:01] <as_btc> I installed this about 30 mins ago
[11:01] <klander> thats df -m
[11:01] <as_btc> chemist^, it's a console command
[11:01] <as_btc> you can't see it in the finder
[11:01] <as_btc> :S
[11:01] <chemist^> in the description it says: Set this to TRUE to activate the screensaver when the session is idle.
[11:01] <ak5> hi, I am trying to create my own ppa with this guide: http://www.plankandwhittle.com/a-debianor-ubuntu-mirror-to-call-your-own/
[11:02] <ak5> however, I can't seem to get the PPA part to work
[11:02] <as_btc> chemist^, which schema
[11:02] <as_btc> ?
[11:02] <ak5> (my ubuntu mirror works fine)
[11:02] <chemist^> i've disabled that, i believe i've solved the issue now
[11:02] <xar-> klander: so you've definitely run out of space, you're not able to identify files to remove?
[11:02] <klander> xar-: and this is find / -size +1000M -ls :http://pastebin.com/SE9UVV1V
[11:02] <as_btc> chemist^, I need context
[11:02] <klander> xar-: i dont know where they are
[11:02] <as_btc> chemist^, what was the schema?
[11:03] <xar-> klander: cd to /; then pastebin results of `du -hsc *`
[11:03] <chemist^> as_btc, what schema? i don't understand what info you need
[11:04] <techie123> hello chemist
[11:04] <klander> xar-: http://pastebin.com/N7ycMSMn
[11:04] <as_btc> chemist^, you manipulated a key in a schema
[11:04] <as_btc> what key and what schema?
[11:04] <as_btc> gsettings list-scemas
[11:04] <chemist^> as_btc,  in dconf-editor i opened up the settings for: xorg -> gnome -> desktop -> screensaver -> idle-activation-enabled
[11:04] <chemist^> i did not use gsettings
[11:05] <xar-> klander: how long has the server been running? can you pastebin `df -i` please
[11:05] <as_btc> chemist^, then you used the org.gnome.desktop.screensaver schema
[11:06] <chemist^> as_btc, i'll just idle for 10 or 15 minutes now and see if it works
[11:06] <klander> xar-: df-i: http://pastebin.com/aHhKnyDj
[11:06] <klander> i restarted it yesterday
[11:07] <tenleftfingers_> I have Ubuntu 14.04 running in VirtualBox on a Win7 host and the bi-directional clipboard is only working from guest to host. The VirtualBox docs say that there are more than one clipboard and that they only suppotr the X11 one. Which one is Ubuntu using?
[11:07] <xar-> extremely odd, the total disk usage is inconsistent with the disk utilization data
[11:07] <xar-> inode usage looks fine
[11:08] <xar-> what was the disk usage at yesterday?
[11:08] <klander> hadn't checked
[11:09] <klander> but this seems to have happened suddenly, i use very little of my disk capacity
[11:09] <as_btc> wow compiz just crashed on me
[11:09] <xar-> do you have an image you can restore to?
[11:09] <xar-> for comparison/
[11:09] <as_btc> god damn compiz
[11:09] <as_btc> I'm using precise
[11:09] <as_btc> clean install
[11:10] <usr13> that's not his last name
[11:10] <klander> xar-: no..
[11:11] <mtnbkr> ActionParsnip: ,  k1l_: seems to me that  "boot 8.04 LTS VM from 10.04 LTS CD and run upgrade" then repeat for the 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS would be the simplest path   Which is what I thin k1l_  may have stateed from the start. :)
[11:11] <k1l_> mtnbkr: no, i said: just change the sources.list like mentioned in the wiki and do a regular upgrade. but its your chaoice
[11:11] <Touhou11> as_btc: I'd avoid using compiz if you can, it's no longer being developed or supported
[11:12] <usr13> as_btc: I don't see much need for compiz, (my PC runs more effeciently without it).  (I use xfce anyway.)
[11:12] <xar-> klander: you should in the future take advantage of that feature of the RS cloud; perform monthly imaging. the cost is pretty low ;)
[11:12] <k1l_> mtnbkr: make sure you have backups no matter what you choose
[11:12] <as_btc> compiz just sigsegv in g_type_check_is_value_type()
[11:12] <dustypanda> Hi, I use ecryptfs home folder. When booted in recovery mode as root I can't access user home using ecryptfs-mount-private. Any help appreciated.
[11:12] <as_btc> segfault :(((
[11:12] <mtnbkr> k1l_: Ah OK.  right, will have backups and VM snapshots for sure
[11:12] <klander> xar-: yeah :/
[11:12] <chemist^> i like compiz :)
[11:12] <chemist^> fancy effects
[11:12] <chemist^> animations
[11:12] <xar-> klander: on the issue at hand, I really can't tell what's going on with the data provided, it's extremely unusual
[11:12] <chemist^> makes everyday use of computer more fun :P
[11:12] <klander> xar-: i will. Just worried about my mysql db right now. Don't have a backup
[11:13] <usr13> as_btc: *(I traded eye-candy for effeciency.)*
[11:13] <klander> xar-: cant seem to connect to it
[11:13] <xar-> klander: you can't connect to the local mysql server instance?
[11:13] <klander> xar-: yeah
[11:13] <xar-> xar-: any errors?
[11:13] <klander> xar-: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[11:14] <chemist^> usr13, efficiency? .. i have no problem with that whatsoever while using compiz effects
[11:14] <as_btc> source "(%rdx)" (0x0ceeb6c0) not located in a known VMA region (needed readable region)!
[11:14] <xar-> klander: ok so it looks like it's not running; `service mysqld start`
[11:14] <chemist^> usr13, unless your computer specs are bad(old)
[11:14] <as_btc> so compiz was trying to write video memory but tried to write somewhere it shouldn't
[11:15] <as_btc> :(
[11:16] <klander> xar-: i uninstalled mysql-server and tried to reinstall
[11:16] <klander> xar: but thats where i get the disk space error message
[11:16] <klander> xar-: same when i try to install any package using apt-get
[11:16] <as_btc> oops VMA
[11:16] <as_btc> virtual memory area
[11:17] <as_btc> I have no swap file, so that would explain it :)
[11:18] <xar-> klander: what kind of database schema are you using
[11:18] <usr13> chemist^: The state of being efficient is achieving maximum productivity with minimum wasted effort or expense. "greater energy efficiency" (I use less resources for what I do.)
[11:18] <klander> xar-: not sure?
[11:18] <Guest36465> hi
[11:18] <as_btc> usr13, I've been using gentoo the last few days
[11:18] <chemist^> usr13, so you were refering to your battery life?
[11:18] <as_btc> usr13, got everything up and running all apps etc
[11:19] <as_btc> usr13, but so many breakages
[11:19] <xar-> klander: if you're using myisam, you can do a 'hackish' rsync of the contents of /var/lib/mysql to a new server
[11:19] <as_btc> the stabe is literally broken
[11:19] <as_btc> stable
[11:19] <xar-> klander: if you're using innodb, not really viable due to corruption concerns, although still technically possible
[11:19] <as_btc> a lot of effort for not much gains
[11:19] <usr13> chemist^: No, I am refering to system resources, but yes it would also relate to battery life when applied to the laptop. (I also use xfce on the laptop as well.)
[11:19] <klander> xar-: worth a shot
[11:19] <xar-> klander: in the interest of time, i would spin up a new server and copy your database over
[11:20] <xar-> klander: depending on the urgency of your database access
[11:20] <chemist^> usr13, if compiz has that much effect on your resources, then you DO have an old pc :)
[11:20] <usr13> as_btc: Very good!
[11:20] <chemist^> usr13, when it comes to laptop, i use xfce as well
[11:20] <Touhou11> xmonad is an efficient alternative to compiz
[11:21] <chemist^> although my battery has a 5 minutes lifetime :)
[11:21] <klander> xar-: if i do that, it should work fine right? just copy the files into the right directories?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> as_btc: how can something be figuratively broken?
[11:21] <usr13> chemist^: Good for you!, (Yea, I just boot to console mode, login and run xfce.)
[11:21] <klander> xar-: which directories do i need to copy over?
[11:22] <__raven_> ubuntu 13.10: random system freezes with wlan chipset zd1211b on 3.11.0-12-generic - any modules missing?/how to debug?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> __raven_: Saucy has less than a month of support left, I sugget you upgrade
[11:23] <Touhou11> __raven_: dmesg show anything?
[11:23] <xar-> klander: if very hackish, no guarantee of success, you want /var/lib/mysql
[11:23] <chemist^> usr13, i was just trying to say that if you have a fast cpu with good graphics card and a lot of ram, using compiz should not affect anything you're doing on the computer. (Maybe some issues with animations while using an application with wine, but that's rare) :)
[11:23] <xar-> klander: it's*, -if
[11:23] <__raven_> Touhou11: last kernel log only shows a lot of ^@ at freeze time
[11:24] <rstefanov> hello
[11:25] <rstefanov> how to disable filesystem cache on ubuntu ?
[11:25] <rstefanov> a need to do a few hdd tests
[11:25] <xar-> klander: something like this: `rsync -av --progress /var/lib/mysql root@NEW_SERVER_IP_GOES_HERE:/var/lib/mysql-new`
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> rstefanov: http://geteventstore.com/blog/20131218/disabling-disk-caching-in-ubuntu/
[11:26] <xar-> ActionParsnip is a google baws
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> xar-: its all I did.... seems hard for some
[11:26] <xar-> i know rite?
[11:27] <xar-> klander: how we doing over there, im falling asleep
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> xar-: although I prefer to quack ;)
[11:28] <usr13> chemist^: Agreed.
[11:29] <klander> sorry
[11:29] <clue_h> hello
[11:29] <klander> setting up the new instance
[11:29] <__raven_> ubuntu 13.10: random system freezes with wlan chipset zd1211b on 3.11.0-12-generic - any modules missing?/how to debug?
[11:29] <klander> will take a while
[11:29] <klander> i have another server but it has its own mysql running and i dont want to screw up those db's
[11:30] <streulma> hello, sometimes my Shift of Acer Aspire E1-771 doesn't work or register it, is it good to replace shiftlock with shift ?
[11:31] <xar-> klander: you should choose the performance flavor, spin up in seconds, and your database disk i/o will thank you
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> __raven_: is it ok in an older kernel?
[11:36] <__raven_> ActionParsnip: on this machine it has problems since - i guess 2.6*
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> __raven_: does the system have a make and model?
[11:38] <__raven_> ActionParsnip: its a "medion md9800"
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> __raven_: is the wireless a USB stick, or is it internal?
[11:39] <rstefanov> ActionParsnip that didnt help. i tried googling. still getting unreal results
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> rstefanov: try using liveCD, much easier
[11:40] <mtnbkr> hey guys, can you help clear up some confusion re: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Hardy   that page is titled as "8.04 to 10.04 (Hardy LTS to Lucid LTS)"   but in the first paragraph it states:  "This page is purely here to go to Intrepid, which became unsupported in April 2010. "     Intrepid is 8.10..  so what version will  "sudo do-release-upgrade" bring me to from there?
[11:40] <__raven_> ActionParsnip: i have a similar freeze on a asus 1225c, since i disabled the card its working fine. on both its the internal pci card
[11:40] <rstefanov> ActionParsnip not possible
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> rstefanov: why not?
[11:40] <rstefanov> because it is a working box that cant be rebooted
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> __raven_: is the RAM healthy (you can test with Memtest86+ from Grub)
[11:41] <__raven_> ActionParsnip: yes its ok
[11:41] <xar-> mtnbkr: if you're running a super old version, it's probably best to make some good backups, then do a fresh install of the latest stable version
[11:41] <Obsdark> Hey ya people
[11:42] <mtnbkr> xar-:   can't do that - it's a production email server which the client has not allowed to be updated for a while.   But now, since there email software (Zimbra) requires Ubuntu 12.04... here we are. upgrading. :(
[11:42] <Obsdark> a simple question, how to use wget --content-disposition? and, is it now stable? i ask this because i love download some files without the need of rename them, thanks in advance
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> rstefanov: did you then flush the disk cache after running the hdparm command?
[11:42] <brvc> picotcp
[11:43] <mtnbkr> s/there/their/  :)
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> rstefanov: also try sdparm
[11:43] <__raven_> ActionParsnip: last kernel log only shows a lot of ^@ at freeze time
[11:44] <Obsdark> a simple question, how to use wget --content-disposition? and, is it now stable? i ask this because i love download some files without the need of rename them, i already check the documentation but i also know than the documentation is outdated, so i preffer come here and ask about it to you, thanks in advance
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Obsdark: you can use:  wget -O newname.ext http://domain.com/folder/filename.ext
[11:45] <Obsdark> thanks
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Obsdark: it will rename the file, you can also use:  sudo wget   to write outside the user's $HOME
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Obsdark: eg:  sudo wget -O /usr/bin/script http://whatever.....
[11:47] <xar-> mtnbkr: performing the do-release-upgrade will probably cause downtime; also, it has been known to not work in some cases. Be prepared with good backups.
[11:47] <Obsdark> thanks a lot
[11:48] <k1l_> mtnbkr: ok, once again: rename the sources.list entries to old-release.... then run the regular do-release-upgrade
[11:48] <mtnbkr> xar-: well, downtime is expected. Will be stopping mail services, backing up, shutting down server snapshot the VM, then bring server back up with no email sevices running then doing Ubuntu upgrades, followed by Zimbra upgrades. snapshotting along the way
[11:48] <k1l_> mtnbkr: i really dont get what the problem is in that case?
[11:48] <xar-> mtnbkr: how much mail are we talking about here?
[11:51] <pu> ..
[11:51] <mtnbkr> k1l_: I get that, and is in my to-do list :)  my question is, everything I read about the do-release-upgrade always says "will upgrade to the latest release"  and I (supposedly) need to go to 10.04 first from all the docs I have read. so, I think my question is: will do-release.... bring me to 10.04 LTS, or is it going to try to bring me to 12 or 13?   sorry if I am being dense. Again, I generally maintain gentoo servers and only use Ubuntu when requi
[11:51] <mtnbkr> red by a program (like Zimbra)
[11:51] <k1l_> it will bring you one step at a time
[11:52] <xar-> mtnbkr: the more future-proof solution would be to drop your TTL's for your zones to 300, drag down the 12.04.4 lts, install, rsync over your MTA configs and the mailboxes, update DNS, at least you can rest easy knowing it's a clean deployment with no straggler packages
[11:52] <k1l_> if you dont wait years after the support is gone there is no confusion :)
[11:52] <mtnbkr> k1l_: excellent. Thank you.  A lot of stress has just been lifted from my back
[11:52] <k1l_> mtnbkr: so it will bring you to 10.04. then you need to upgrade to 12.04 if needed
[11:53] <mtnbkr> k1l_: re: waiting years.    Customer's fault, and I am NOT happy about being in this position one single bit. :(  Been telling, warning, yelling at them for years now..
[11:53] <k1l_> and tell them 10.04 server only got support to april 2015, so they need to think about that to not get in the same situation next year
[11:53] <mtnbkr> k1l_: right, Zimbra 8.06 currently supports 10.04, but it is deprecated, so I will be going right to 12.04 as soon as 10.04 upgrade is verified as functional and a snapshot of it has been taken
[11:54] <k1l_> allright
[11:54] <Touhou11> If a customer doesn't listen to you, drop them as a customer. You're not obliged to work for idiots
[11:55] <mtnbkr> xar-: got about 500GB emails... so going to need to do in-place upgrades of Ubuntu rather than a migration to newly built 12.04 LTS server VM.
[11:56] <mablae> Hi there!
[11:57] <xar-> mtnbkr: that's... a lot of mail; i mean maybe not for a gigE network, but yea, a lot of mail ha
[11:57] <mtnbkr> Touhou11:   yeah, well... I agree, but it is easier said than done.   THis customer just went through the loss of CFO, and IT director, and several helpdesk people in the course of about 8 months... So it is pretty chaotic and has been for a while.  Other than that, the last 14 years supporting them has been pretty reasonable.
[11:58] <xar-> mtnbkr: while you're doing the spring cleaning, you should notify your customer that mail older than X years is going to be purged; cuz 99% of people don't look at mail that old.
[11:58] <mablae> We are discussing the migration from windows to ubuntu for our workstation client PCs: Is there anything like WSUS in the linux world?! Like installing updates from one central location?!
[11:59] <xar-> mablae: google linux orchestration; there's chef, puppet, ansable, etc.
[11:59] <__raven_> ActionParsnip: ?
[11:59] <mablae> I know puppet for server environments but is that usable in a desktop environment also?!
[11:59] <xar-> s/ansable/ansible/
[11:59] <mtnbkr> xar-: hahah  apparently you do not have any private boarding schools as clients.    This is not "the real world"
[11:59] <mablae> xar-, So there is no difference between server ubuntu and xubuntu in this case at all?!
[11:59] <Latrina> Hello everyone
[12:00] <Latrina> anyone here uses dnsmasq ??
[12:00] <xar-> I work in hosting, I know pretty much every kind of client imaginable :P
[12:00] <mablae> Yeah hosting servers... But what about a 12.04 xubuntu installation?!    Prolly not too much I suspect. :)
[12:01] <Latrina> is there a wat to let clients connected in the lan resolve other machine through their domains which I would set up on the dnsmasq DNS server ?
[12:01] <mablae> We want to use some kind of Ldap Auth also
[12:01] <mablae> @ xar-
[12:01] <Latrina> I want them to be able to resolve the local domains without having to add the domains manually to each clients connected
[12:01] <Latrina> is it possible to do so??
[12:02] <xar-> mtnbkr: sometimes being able to offer timely and robust support means bringing down the guantlet on them; you need to be strategic in how you approach those battles; I'd probably come at them with hard data about their old mail access heuristics. Justify your decisions with fact.
[12:07] <skylinewhy> Hi, when I boot the ubuntu 13.10 on my macbook, the splash screen of boot is totaly garbled, can you help please?
[12:10] <clue_h> skylinewhy, try adding nomodeset to grub in /etc/default/grub under cmd line linux default at the end then sudo update-grub.
[12:11] <clue_h> skylinewhy, basically the second answer that has 27 votes here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
[12:11] <sandman> i have a laptop with specs as: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7146006/ which distro would be best choice? Lubuntu or Kubuntu
[12:12] <skylinewhy> clue_h: with nomodeset, I can't see a graphical splash screen, how can I use a graphical splash ?
[12:12] <zakaria> helle how i can instale tor browser here ?
[12:13] <mtnbkr> xar-: hehe  I have been doing this for quite some time. I can assure you that using facts simply does not work in some environments. For example, I have been telling this client since december that there is a 'full exploit' in the wild that can take them down, including links to the vendor's page and warning them that we MUST upgrade their ${software} ASAP...  still they are in a holding pattern. I tell ya, Touhou11 may be on to something. :)
[12:14] <Alarm> hello. i want to download a spefic jdk version . i saw that i can get oracle jdk from this repo : ppa:webupd8team/java
[12:14] <Alarm> my question is then how do i select the version 64-bit JDK 1.7u51 that i need
[12:15] <ubixs2> Hello ,  is there any way to install package on maverick ubuntu from repositories ?
[12:15] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: maverick is eol and no longer supported
[12:16] <chemist^> as_btc, the setting i changed in dconf-editor worked
[12:16] <ak5> hi everyone, how do I go about adding authentication to a private ppa? I need to add a pgp key or soemthing?
[12:17] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: yes i know so there is no way ?i want to upgrade it , before it i want to backup my files via samba and i need to install samba package
[12:18] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: the release is no longer supported in this channel
[12:20] <ubixs2> you told me one time i heard it , ActionPa1snip  don't repeate ,if i want to upgrade to new ubuntu  i should have backup , so how do you want me share files into other system without samba ...
[12:20] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: do you have openssh-server installed?
[12:21] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: yes
[12:21] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: then you have an SFTP server running, connect to that
[12:22] <skylinewhy> Hi, when I use hfsplus for mounting my HFS+ file system, when I try to open all files localized in /etc, they are totaly empty. Can you help please?
[12:22] <ActionPa1snip> skylinewhy: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:22] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: can i share files between it and windows over wifi via sftp ?
[12:22] <skylinewhy> ActionPa1snip: nothing
[12:22] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: yes, you can use filezilla to connect to SFTP from Windows (as the default Windows fil manager is garbage)
[12:22] <yiwan> why mdadm can not grow a RAID-10 but btrfs can?
[12:23] <ActionPa1snip> skylinewhy: ok, the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[12:23] <skylinewhy> ActionPa1snip: for example, du -h /etc/networks is 0 byte. My ubuntu is 13.10 with last 3.11.x kernel version
[12:23] <ActionPa1snip> skylinewhy: i'd check mount options then
[12:23] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: but how to set a network between windows and maverick , they should have ip , yes ?
[12:23] <ActionPa1snip> skylinewhy: tried with sudo?
[12:24] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: yes or it wont communicate on the network
[12:24] <skylinewhy> ActionPa1snip: sudo? I try to mounting with root user
[12:24] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: you can connect to port 22 on the ubuntu side via sftp and get the data.
[12:24] <ActionPa1snip> skylinewhy: yes but your user may not have access to read the data, hence 0 bytes....
[12:25] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: I suggest you look into a backup regime.
[12:25] <skylinewhy> ActionPa1snip: I used the correct UID and GID in the mount command, but the files are empty
[12:25] <ActionPa1snip> skylinewhy: try:  sudo du -h /etc/networks
[12:25] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: two systems are connected to a wifi adsl modem ...and how two systems detect each other ? ip should be set yes ?
[12:25] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: yes
[12:26] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: run:  ifconfig   on ubuntu and you will see the address
[12:26] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: having your data in a single location is not wise
[12:26] <skylinewhy> ActionPa1snip: please wait 2 minuts
[12:27] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: yes i want to copy them into windows hard
[12:27] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: then use filezilla, it is an sftp client for Windows, use the Ubuntu IP and your Ubuntu username and password to authenticate
[12:27] <yiwan> Hello?why mdadm can not grow a RAID-10 but btrfs can?
[12:27] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: lots of guides online on how to use filezilla
[12:28] <ActionPa1snip> yiwan: are there any bugs reported?
[12:28] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: i have used it before thanks will try now
[12:28] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: why do you not already have a backup?
[12:29] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: lack of time :P
[12:29] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: how long have you had the system?
[12:29] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: maverick ...and before
[12:29] <skylinewhy> ActionPa1snip: sudo du -h /etc/networks is 0 byte, but is not true :\
[12:29] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: so in 4 years you havent had 10 - 15 mins to copy some data to a USB HDD?
[12:30] <ActionPa1snip> !hfs | skylinewhy
[12:30] <ActionPa1snip> skylinewhy: may be worth reviewing your mounting
[12:31] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: you can run the copy overnight once it's started. Taks no time at all
[12:31] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: of course i had not an external hard  , in fact i don't believe backup , now i just want to install new ubuntu ,this is why i want remove/manage all , a question what's the latest LTS ubuntu now ?
[12:31] <ghartmann> is there a better way to tell which partitions should be mounted automatically
[12:32] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: latest stable LTS is Precise (12.04), there is Trusty (14.04) due out next month but is in prerelease now
[12:33] <skylinewhy> ActionPa1snip: for example?
[12:33] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: if the IDE on the drive fails on the drive, or the motor fails, where is your data? A cheap USB drive costs peanuts compared to professional data recovery which is ungarunteed. It's your data you are risking, I can only advise
[12:34] <ActionPa1snip> skylinewhy: the stuff in that link is all I know. I dont use Apple garbage, so don't have this issue :)
[12:36] <Obsdark> take care!
[12:36] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: so 14.04 is going be the last LTS , yes ? and security buges are fixed and so ... does ubuntu have security updates repostiries now ?
[12:36] <k1l_> ubixs2: yes, it will be a lts
[12:38] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: yes 14.04 will be LTS
[12:38] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: it always has had security updates...
[12:39] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: so it's better to wait for 14.04 ...and will it be stable as 13.04 and 12.04 ?
[12:40] <linuxlite1969> hey guys..anyone using arpspoof here ?
[12:40] <clue_h> yeah every day lolz
[12:40] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: you can install 14.04 now, its in prerelease. You can upgrade seamlessly to the release candidate next month. Its officially 'unstable'
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: 13.04 is EOL, it was also godawful imho :)
[12:42] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: i don't have such internet to upgrade whole os ...it will get all os again yes ?
[12:43] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: yes, you will have to upgrade a lot more than a clean install to get from Maverick to Trusty
[12:43] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: also, a clean install will remove the old fluff from the old installs, feels like new and with fewer issues
[12:44] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: which one do you advice ? a clean install and then installing new softwares ?
[12:45] <pu> i had install g++ ,but it g++ Depends: cpp (>= 4:4.8.1-2ubuntu3) but 4:4.8.1-2ubuntu3 is to be installed,how can solve it
[12:45] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: yes a clean install of 14.04 is what I would go for, but 12.04 is deent too and supported til April 2017
[12:47] <ubixs2>  ActionPa1snip deent?
[12:47] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: decent
[12:48] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: 12.04 is for 2012 ?2 years before yes ?
[12:48] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: before , LTS was supported for 3 years yes ? now for 5 yearS?
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: yes 5 years on desktop and server for Gnome based Ubuntu (with Unity)
[12:52] <Waldo_Geraldo> i got a problem
[12:52] <ActionPa1snip> !details | Waldo_Geraldo
[12:52] <Waldo_Geraldo> i installed Ubuntu non EFI and now my computer needs some EFI
[12:53] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: thanks but if i install new ubuntu 14.04 i should reinstall all applications ..and it gets more time  than upgrading from maverick to trusty
[12:53] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: upgrading from Maverick to Trusty will take a lot longer than a clean install
[12:54] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: why ? it needs jst replacing repostiories and then one clieck :P
[12:54] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: no
[12:55] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: you will need to upgrade to Oneiric
[12:55] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: then to Precise
[12:55] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: then to Trusty (LTS to LTS)
[12:55] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: 3 lots of upgrades, with the full package set from each release being downloaded each time
[12:55] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: so its not one click in any way, shape or form
[12:56] <ubixs2> :d oh yes
[12:56] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: oh and Natty before Oneiric
[12:56] <ActionPa1snip> ubixs2: so a clean install is one lot of downloading and updating of packages. Less time and less data
[12:59] <ubixs2> ActionPa1snip: about your question , i don't believe backup yet , becuase if you believe god , he controls everything , and don't get you data anytime :P , thanks
[13:00] <ActionPa1snip> ubottu: religion is not a factor here
[13:00] <ActionPa1snip> ubottu: this is pure science
[13:00] <ActionPa1snip> ubottu: ^
[13:00] <ActionPa1snip> ubottu: if your drive fails, your data is gone.
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> ahhh nice how he throws in the god nonesense then splits
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> real classy
[13:02] <tables> how do i check for all dependencies of a package?
[13:03] <ActionPa1snip> tables: packages.ubuntu.com will tell you
[13:04] <Pici> tables: apt-cache depends packagename  or  apt-cache show packagename
[13:07] <Joel> I accidentally dragged and dropped some icon into the top bar, how the heck do I delete it? no option if I right click.
[13:08] <yonko> Can i install ubuntu mini iso in virtualbox ??
[13:09] <ActionPa1snip> yonko: yes
[13:09] <brokenstein> yonko: i don't see why not ?..
[13:09] <fd__> hello guys i'm having trouble with my usb cam not detected on my machine..any idea guys
[13:09] <YamakasY> is it possible to see the gw in a traceroute when both machines are connected to this same gw ?
[13:09] <ActionPa1snip> fd__: does it show an image in cheese?
[13:10] <fd__> when i'm using skype not detected..
[13:10] <ActionPa1snip> fd__: skype is a REALLY bad test, use cheese
[13:11] <fd__> what is cheese?
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> !info cheese | fd__
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> fd__: its an open source application which will adhere better to the settings and config in your OS rather than proprietary blob which is rife with issues
[13:12] <interweb> Is it safe to install this ? https://github.com/vysheng/tg#installation
[13:12] <fd__> do i need to download?
[13:12] <ActionPa1snip> fd__: its in a default install
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> fd__: search dash
[13:13] <Pici> interweb: You want to know if it is safe to install something you found on github? or are you asking about those Ubuntu packages that the instructions ask you to install?
[13:13] <clue_h> Internet13, no
  I only need to use internet will ubuntu mini iso  suffice ??
[13:14] <fd__> thanks guys...
[13:14] <ActionPa1snip> yonko: do you mean to web browse?
[13:14] <yonko>  <ActionPa1snip> yes
[13:14] <ActionPa1snip> yonko: then I suggest xpud :)
[13:15] <Touhou11> yonko: If you just want to web browser, I suggest a minimal build using gentoo or Arch Linux
[13:15] <ActionPa1snip> Touhou11: look into xpud dude, much quicker
 thanks for info guys i will google that and see?
[13:16] <ActionPa1snip> fd__: is it ok in cheese?
[13:16] <Touhou11> ActionPa1snip: That's quite neat :)
[13:17] <ActionPa1snip> Touhou11: very, boots in under 3 seconds here on PATA HDD
[13:17] <ActionPa1snip> Touhou11: with 1.6Ghz CPU and 2Gb RAM
[13:17] <Seshmaru1> hello
[13:17] <Seshmaru1> i'm in need of great help
[13:17] <ActionPa1snip> Seshmaru1: ask away.
[13:18] <Seshmaru1> i need to transfer ISPConfig3 to a vesta server
[13:18] <Seshmaru1> i only need my clients emails with their accounts
[13:18] <Seshmaru1> i dont know how much does vmail and mail differ from eachother
[13:21] <Seshmaru1> soo.. yeah..
[13:22] <yorg> http://www.marketglory.com/strategygame/galahad1st for all you online gamers out there, if you didn't already, use this link to register on MerkatGlory a free2play financial strategy game where virtual currency can be converted into real money. It starts out slow but in time you can turn a good profit
[13:24] <krepke> I have a 2TB drive sitting at /dev/sdb. Haven't touched it yet. How do I set it up to use as an encrypted disk?
[13:26] <thresh> hi
[13:26] <thresh> with ubuntu 12.10 hitting EOL in "April 2014", which is the exact day?
[13:26] <abhvym> !ibus
[13:27] <Seshmaru1> so noone has any idea of how to move my users db and mail db from isponfig3 to vesta
[13:28] <ActionPa1snip> thresh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[13:29] <Fjorgynn> Hi sir
[13:30] <thresh> ActionPa1snip: how exactly does that answer my question?
[13:31] <Fjorgynn> what's the best pdf printer for Ubunto?
[13:31] <ActionPa1snip> thresh: thats all we know, there is no exact date
[13:31] <thresh> ActionPa1snip: :-(
[13:31] <ActionPa1snip> Fjorgynn: there is no single best
[13:31] <ActionPa1snip> thresh: as we get closer, it will be revealed but presently we know as much as you
[13:32] <Seshmaru1> :/
[13:32] <ActionPa1snip> thresh: answers it as exactly as we can, wouldnt you say?
[13:32] <Fjorgynn> cups-pdf seems ok
[13:32] <ActionPa1snip> Fjorgynn: its like asking what the best web browser is? There isn't one
[13:32] <Fjorgynn> ActionPa1snip: lynx
[13:32] <ActionPa1snip> Fjorgynn: cups-pdf is one option. If you like it, use it
[13:33] <Fjorgynn> why does the guy in this tutorial print openoffice.org to pdf with cups? :P
[13:34] <k1l_> Fjorgynn: dont ask us what people in tutorials do.
[13:34] <ActionPa1snip> Fjorgynn: becaause he can....
[13:34] <Fjorgynn> but what pdf printer do you uses?
[13:35] <k1l_> ubuntu ships one already
[13:35] <Fjorgynn> which one is that?
[13:36] <k1l_> i bet its cups-pdf
[13:36] <Fjorgynn> I see
[13:36] <ActionPa1snip> Fjorgynn: libreoffice has an export to pdf button. I use that
[13:37] <Fjorgynn> ActionPa1snip: not good for chromium
[13:37] <Fjorgynn> :D
[13:37] <ActionPa1snip> Fjorgynn: then use cups-pdf if it works in chromium....
[13:37] <Fjorgynn> :)
[13:37] <k1l_> Fjorgynn: chromium got that already. select print dialogue and choose print to file
[13:37] <Fjorgynn> :)
[13:38] <Organized> hi guys, im having a problem using the chroot-method to reinstall my grub2. im using ubuntu 12.04 lts (well, its elementaryOS but it's pretty much the same). when do the method everythings fine, no errors, but when i reboot it automatically boots into win8.1 -.-
[13:38] <eizo> where can i get the latest version of VLC? on https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily there is only 2.0.10 whereas there is 2.1.3 in the website
[13:39] <Fjorgynn> eizo: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[13:39] <eizo> Fjorgynn: yes but i want to install it using the package manager, so that there is no conflict
[13:39] <k1l_> eizo: if you really _need_ the newer version see if there is a PPA
[13:40] <k1l_> but be aware PPAs are not supported by this channel. ask the PPA maintainer for support
[13:40] <eizo> k1l_: there is this PPA https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily, but the version is pretty old (2.0.10)
[13:40] <eizo> ok
[13:40] <red__> dc++ hub for college need help ..
[13:43] <Waldo_Geraldo> good morning faldo
[13:43] <red__> quit
[13:44] <Waldo_Geraldo> fraggle rock red?
[13:44] <Waldo_Geraldo> !ot | Waldo_Geraldo
[13:44] <k1l_> Waldo_Geraldo: aka alteregoa aka fnordistus. please stop that nonsense and stick to ubuntu support in here
[13:45] <red__> ha ha
[13:46] <red__> someone has joined channel notifications how turn it off?
[13:46] <LucidGuy> Does anyone see any value in these Linux certs: CompTIA Linux+, LPIC-1, Suse CLA ?
[13:46] <k1l_> LucidGuy: that topic suits better into the offtopic discussion channel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:46] <k1l_> red__: depends on your client
[13:47] <tmmunq> look on linkedin for people with it. see if you want their job
[13:53] <DJones> red__: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/hide_join_part_messages Have a look through this, it details quite a few IRC clients
[13:54] <granyoular> I'm trying to run cryptsetup, but always fail with "code 5: Cannot wipe header on device /dev/sdb". Anyone have this problem?
[13:56] <glambert> how do you generate a new random-seed file?
[13:58] <tmmunq> granyoular: are you root? is that the right device, not sdb1?
[13:59] <logikos> I'm using ubuntu LAMP server and i installed lpr and want to print to a printer by its ip address without installing it with cups, i'm told the printer itself can act as the print server (LPD?)
[14:00] <logikos> can someone help me, how would use lpr and specify the ip of the print server
[14:00] <logikos> rather than a printer name
[14:00] <Joel> What big detail did you just leave out?
[14:00] <Sven_vB> which tool do i use to transpose the tab-separated matrix in my text file?
[14:02] <Sven_vB> or in other words, swap the rows and columns of my table, like mirroring on a top-left to bottom-right axis
[14:06] <somsip> Sven_vB: lots of search results for 'bash switch rows columns', eg: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1729824/transpose-a-file-in-bash Should give you a starting point
[14:06] <Sven_vB> thx!
[14:07] <Sven_vB> with that, i even found some awk script already. then again, i wonder why i can't find some packaged tool to do it... should i publish one?
[14:08] <vires1> hi
[14:08] <brothersome> Hi vires1
[14:08] <Seshmaru1> i need to transfer ISPConfig3 to a vesta server, i only need my clients emails with their accounts, i dont know how much does vmail and mail differ from eachother
[14:08] <sydney> vires1: hello
[14:08] <AlanBell> Sven_vB: sc is a tool that does that
[14:08] <Sven_vB> AlanBell, thanks!
[14:09] <vires1> after installing aircrack-ng runing airmon-ng it asks me to run as root when i enter my password it says authentication failure
[14:10] <vires1> i need solution to it
[14:13] <Sven_vB> AlanBell, do you further know how to invoke it for the purpose? i found a mention of "transpose" in its man page in pr/pc/pp, but fail to imagine a workflow for it and my fav search engine has too many off-topic "sc"s near "matrix transpose"
[14:14] <AlanBell> Sven_vB: I just know it works on that kind of file for all kinds of things, use psc to get stuff in the right format then there are loads of things to process it, anything you could do with a graphical spreadsheet
[14:15] <AlanBell> Sven_vB: psc -r < inputfile | sc -W% - > outputfile
[14:15] <Sven_vB> thanks, i'll try that
[14:15] <AlanBell> Sven_vB: I haven't tried that specifically, I was doing other stuff with it
[14:17] <koploti> Hi guys. Advice needed. Friend thinking of switching, i have to choose the right distro. He's a journalist, so most of the time he writes stuff in a word processor, listens to music and browses. Laptop is about three years old- intel integr.graphics card, 2.1 dual core intel and 4gb ram. Which distro do you think would be best for such a person. So: a journalist, writing professional + casual music + movies + browsing...is ubuntu for such
[14:19] <jhutchins> koploti: Why would people in the ubuntu support channel even know what the features of other distributions might be?
[14:19] <raj__> could I use logrotate to rotate bash history of users, so I can keep bash history logs for long ?
[14:19] <Aman21> koploti ubuntu is good go for it
[14:20] <koploti> Noone wanted to answer on #linux, so i basically go around and ask, maybe i get a glimpse. Kinda think when i install it the first time, it has to work :)
[14:20] <somsip> koploti: try the live CDs/DVDs for the different flavours and let your friend try them and decide for himself
[14:20] <AlanBell> koploti: Ubuntu would work fine for that
[14:20] <glambert> how do you generate a new random-seed file?
[14:20] <somsip> glambert: what is it you're wanting to do exactly?
[14:20] <Sven_vB> AlanBell, it works quite far already, seems like i just have to convince it to output tsv instead of fixed width columns. would you know a switch for that? what i have already: echo -e 'a\tb\tc\n1\t2\t3\n4\t5\t6' | psc -r | sc -W% - | tr '\t' '_'
[14:21] <glambert> somsip, provisioning new virtual machine
[14:21] <koploti> and for which distro would you say it's easiest to get support?
[14:21] <glambert> koploti, Ubuntu, for sure
[14:21] <somsip> glambert: specifically, in relation to the 'new random-seed file'?
[14:22] <koploti> Ok. Thanks guys :)
[14:22] <koploti> all the best :)
[14:22] <glambert> somsip, I'm porting the virt-sysprep from libguestfs into something I can run on the guest rather than on the host
[14:22] <glambert> but with some minor alterations to support provisioning I need too
[14:23] <jhutchins> !why ubuntu
[14:23] <somsip> glambert: sounds like you're at development level rather than user level. This might not be the best place, unless you are lucky
[14:23] <jhutchins> Sigh.  Really need to work on that bot.
[14:23] <glambert> somsip, fair enough
[14:23] <somsip> !brain | jhutchins
[14:23] <glambert> somsip, recommend a chan?
[14:24] <somsip> glambert: possible #ubuntu-devs but that is a guess. or !alis will help you to search
[14:24] <glambert> thanks
[14:24] <skryptcha> how do I log ?
[14:25] <Guest78723223> off channel question.
[14:25] <Guest78723223> can someone recommend me a good sql client. I tried heidiSQL but its not working(connection) to my cloud server
[14:25] <somsip> Guest78723223: dbeaver
[14:25] <Obsdark> Boys, hey oh, i have a problem than is kinda, confusing..., you see.. i'm trying to steam music through icecast with and it s working, but i also manage to install a music player in one html page connected to the main icecast web page, however..., in centOS and windows this works perfectly but here the same program returns me "its not possible to found index.html" (the page i wanna read, ¿any idea what can be missing?
[14:25] <Obsdark> i guess is a package but i'm not sure which one can be
[14:25] <Hedgework> Hey, all.  I've got an Xubuntu machine whereon I use i3 as my wm.  I'm not finding what I need via #xubuntu or web searches, so I'm hoping you all can point me to relevant docs...
[14:26] <koploti> Oh. just one more. Is there any word on tiheum's new icons? Are they arriving on time for 14.04?
[14:26] <Hedgework> ...I'm seeking a not-annoying (CLI preferred, light GUI tolerated) way to manage my network connectivity from i3.  ifconfig and iwconfig seem to have changed since I last used them, and I'm not finding docs for preferred methods that don't assume I have Xfce4's network widget running.
[14:27] <Seshmaru1> i need to transfer ISPConfig3 to a vesta server, i only need my clients emails with their accounts, i dont know how much does vmail and mail differ from eachother
[14:27] <glambert> somsip, #ubuntu-devel :)
[14:27] <somsip> koploti: This might lead you to something with information. No idea myself. https://code.launchpad.net/~tiheum/ubuntu-themes/suru-icons
[14:27] <nothing_else> ifconfig ?
[14:27] <somsip> glambert: ah - my mistake
[14:27] <nothing_else> or nmcli ?
[14:28] <nothing_else> Ex. [start a vpn connection named foo] nmcli con up id foo
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Hedgework: if you dont use vpn, then wicd-curses is decent
[14:30] <nothing_else> Also...for wireless...wavemon
[14:30] <Hedgework> ActionParsnip: I'm not VPNing most of the time, so that should be fine...I didn't think *buntu even ran wicd...at least it's not in /etc/init.d/
[14:31] <Hedgework> (wicd is actually what I'm used to)
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> !info wicd | Hedgework
[14:31] <Sven_vB> AlanBell, i've decided to, for now, solve the tsv convert with sed. thanks for showing me the way this far!
[14:31] <Hedgework> ActionParsnip: nifty...I'd (apparently falsely) assumed that installing wicd would require lots of work to get around ubuntu-isms/assumptions.
[14:32] <Hedgework> ActionParsnip: I'll just do that then.
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Hedgework: i believe you will need to remove network manager then reboot
[14:34] <evilbug> how is it possible to control what versions of mysql and php get installed on ubuntu?
[14:34] <s466531257boss> hi : i have successfully run the latest trusty tahr daily by tainting kernel with boot option 'forcepae' on a Pentium Mobile (G6F22) - live-system runs flawlessly on that 12year old ; installation was successful from live-system without any implications , but after 2nd reboot right after grub it states cpu#0 hung for approx 20 to 23 secs ; the forcepae option is set in grub , but even the recovery mode ( which i thought was r
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> s466531257boss: trusty isnt supporrted here til release day
[14:35] <Hedgework> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll play with it :)
[14:35] <s466531257boss> oh okay i am sorry for that , can you point me into any direction ?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> s466531257boss: #ubuntu+1
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> s466531257boss: just as the topic says
[14:42] <s466531257boss> another question : in my precise install ( latest updates - no proposed ) i can't reactivate the Qualcomm Gobi 1000 anymore ; even after (only for that booting into windows ) use the HP Connection Manager to activate the full set . The only way to activate it is establish a connection and kill the machine while running win , then boot straight into precise. Then i get my ttyUSB0 visible , but only active as root via sudo su .
[14:43] <s466531257boss> means spending life at boot to the gobi
[14:43] <s466531257boss> in hope to get win vanished
[14:47] <jmadero> morning all - anyone ever see where Unity background is completely gray? inability to change wallpaper
[14:47] <jmadero> looks quite unappealing
[14:49] <Neozonz> is it okay to install a percise package on saucy?
[14:49] <s466531257boss> @jmadero - no idea from my side , but maybe you know if there are kernels | modules that give access to Qualcomm Gobi 1000 HSDPA Internal USB ?
[14:50] <jmadero> s466531257boss: I do not - sorry
[14:50] <s466531257boss> @jmadero - can you describe your problem in detail ? maybe we can find out together
[14:52] <somsip> Neozonz: No. Which package?
[14:52] <Neozonz> http://ppa.launchpad.net/sandyd/nginx-current-pagespeed/ubuntu
[14:52] <Neozonz> https://code.launchpad.net/~sandyd/+archive/nginx-current-pagespeed/+index?field.series_filter=precise
[14:53] <somsip> Neozonz: different version of apache since 13.04 (or 13.10) anyway.
[14:53] <Neozonz> (using nginx)
[14:54] <somsip> Neozonz: Still 'No'. Highly unrecommended that you try to make it work. Maybe best to contact the package maintainer.
[14:54] <compAHsite> what's the safest way to "zero" out a microSD card with ubuntu? (selling my old phone..)
[14:55] <jmadero> compAHsite: if you can plug it into a computer just use the dd command and zero it out
[14:55] <mtnbkr> compAHsite: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/path/toSD
[14:55] <jmadero> why urandom
[14:55] <jmadero> just 0 it out
[14:55] <jmadero> if you don't care that it's obvious that you zero'd it out - else randomize
[14:56] <mtnbkr> asked and answered :)
[14:56] <jmadero> lol
[14:56] <compAHsite> jmadero: mtnbkr: easy, enough. thanks. if I just wanted to 0 it out, what would I use as if=?
[14:56] <mtnbkr>  /dev/zero
[14:56] <compAHsite> perfect. thanks guys!
[14:56] <jmadero> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX
[14:57] <jmadero> sorry I was slow
[14:57] <mtnbkr> \0/ I win!   lol
[14:57]  * jmadero hands mtnbkr a beer
[14:58]  * mtnbkr puts it in fridge - starting a 8.04 to 10.04 to 12.04 Ubuntu upgrade fo client in 33 mins - followed by a Zimbra 7.2.5 to 8.0.6 upgrade
[14:58] <s466531257boss> @jmadero : that could kill without proper alignment as given by manufacturer
[14:58] <mtnbkr> jmadero: I need to be alert for a while here. :)
[14:58] <jmadero> mtnbkr: why in the world would you do that upgrade
[14:59] <jmadero> I prefer clean install every time
[14:59] <jmadero> separate /home and other important partitions
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> jmadero: people need excitment in their lives
[14:59] <jmadero> so you don't lose crap
[14:59] <sydney> When I upgrade ubuntu pangolin  to lubuntu saucy will it keep both desktop enviroments,or will it keep only lubuntu's?
[14:59] <jmadero> lol
[14:59] <mtnbkr> jmadero:  Kind of have no choice - client has ~500GM email
[14:59] <jmadero> mtnbkr: no separate partition?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> sydney: you'll more than likely get both
[14:59] <jmadero> that sounds rough ;)
[14:59] <jmadero> and Ubuntu 8.04 hasn't been supported for.....
[15:00] <jmadero> this client needs a reminder of good sound upgrade policies lol
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> jmadero: ...ever