[08:35] <ome> Jack_Sparrow thanks
[08:35] <cntb> kSub 10x. where is glxgears ?
[08:35] <Jasbone> I'm using a geforce 2
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[08:35] <greddy> is ntfs okay?
[08:36] <Sub> greddy, for linux? ext3 preferably
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> in termnal
[08:36] <greddy> okay
[08:36] <Sub> greddy, linux cannot write to ntfs, not well anyway
[08:36] <yanis> Sub: when you say 'no desktop install' you mean no Xserver,right?
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> glxgears -printfps     DOne from Terminal screen
[08:36] <cntb> q.above Sub pls
[08:36] <greddy> okay
[08:36] <Foobal> K^Holtz: most likely the flash on those pages works atm only on IE+windows combination.. they changed them couple days ago and practically managed to break them completely
[08:36] <Sub> yanis, yes and also none of the desktop apps.
[08:36] <Sub> cntb, jus open a terminal and type "glxgears" , itz in the base installation
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> greddy: Please think carefully about what you would lose if NTFS write fails..  Not 100% safe yet
[08:37] <cntb> k trying 10x ur great
[08:37] <Pupeno> Sub: Radeon x1300.
[08:37] <sorush20>  and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot, but when I try to follwo the instruction in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch, and log in to my chroot, and when I try to install build essentials I keep getting asked for my password..
[08:37] <K^Holtz> Foobal: ok, thanks.. but just so u know, it does work with firefox+windows.. i know that because thats what i use on my windows machine
[08:37] <nickwebcouk> hey folks. I have a spare hard drive i just connected, and want to format it as a boot drive for windows. How can i do that thru ubuntu?
[08:37] <Foobal> the ntfstools write is not unsafe. it won't allow write operations that are destructive for data..
[08:37] <Sub> Pupeno, i dont have an Ati so i cant be sure, but im not sure if the x1300 is fully supported at the moment.
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> greddy: To share between XP and Ub , please consider making a fat32 partition which both XP and UB can write and read safely
[08:37] <greddy> is 2 gigs a good size for a swap partition?
[08:37] <tomohawk> Imreally stuck with this resolution thing... it wont let me use sudo, and i cant work out how to log in as the root user... my Athlon64 is running properly, but the powerbook is giving me the shits
[08:37] <cntb> k what game using openGl was in default install if any ?
[08:38] <Foobal> K^Holtz: okay, that's at least good.. anyways, they are doing something weird with their tags
[08:38] <nickwebcouk> tomohawk, sudo su
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> greddy: too much
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> greddy: 1st how much ram do you have
[08:38] <Sub> cntb, none , get tuxracer or something
[08:38] <Barkley> !lvm
[08:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about lvm
[08:38] <Sub> to try out.
[08:38] <ome> Jack_Sparrow: Just clicked it and tried to install updates and crashed
[08:38] <greddy> 1 gig of ram
[08:38] <K^Holtz> Foobal: i'm assuming someone has already attempted to contact them about this issue?
[08:38] <Pupeno> Sub: ok. Thanks.
[08:39] <cntb> k is ti in any repo? tuxracer for eample ?
[08:39] <tomohawk> "tom is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported"
[08:39] <tomohawk> its the first user i set up
[08:39] <ome> Jack_Sparrow what is reload supposed to do? it dosnt apear to install the updates
[08:39] <greddy> hmmm
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ome: HAve you done any manual changes, or installed anything other that what apt or synaptic have available
[08:39] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow can you help me with a partition problem ?
[08:39] <Foobal> K^Holtz: I'm glad there are some 5000000 other humor sites around, at least I wont bother :)
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ome: It just gets the headders from the repositories
[08:39] <nickwebcouk>  I have a spare hard drive i just connected, and want to format it as a boot drive for windows. How can i do that thru ubuntu
[08:39] <greddy> with 1` gig of ram how large should my swap be?
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  you are third in line at the moment
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> greddy: Use 2 gig
[08:40] <ome> Cant think of anything i installed that wasnt though packet manager
[08:40] <Barkley> gui lvm tool in ubuntu?  gparted works?
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  please explain your problem, did you delete that other partition like we talked about
[08:40] <greddy> you just said 2 gigs was to much :P
[08:40] <ome> Jack_Sparrow: last thing i installed was xchm
[08:40] <nofx_br> Jack_Sparrow: i read somewhere that ram + swap should be  more then 512... so no much need with 1 gb
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> greddy: for some people
[08:41] <HackerX> Hey, Whats the command for a wireless scan???
[08:41] <nofx_br> i have 2 gb ram and put 400mb on swap
[08:41] <WooD> Hi ! any of you are able to play asx file frome Ubuntu ? I have install MPlayer and tried to open an URL: .... http://www.nasa.gov/55644main_NASATV_Windows.asx  and it gives me an error
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> greddy: you can go as low as one but that is too tight
[08:41] <greddy> okay
[08:41] <greddy> ill stay with 2 then
[08:41] <WooD> the error is : Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6
[08:42] <ome> Jack_Sparrow: Can I update from terminal and get find out whats crashing it?
[08:42] <greddy> this is funny i am chatting in irc while installing :D
[08:42] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow I had 3 partitions, hda1 (ntfs) hda3 (linux) hda5(ntfs) y deleted hda5 and resize hda3.. but somehow there is no free space in hda3 !! :S check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17364
[08:42] <Foobal> WooD: open the .asx in text editor and use one of the urls from inside with mplayer
[08:42] <K^Holtz> is it safe to say that firestarter is the best firewall software without having to know how to write iptables? does anyone have an opinion of something better?
[08:42] <Jack_Sparrow> nofx_br: IF your box goes to hibernate and tries to write all RAM to hard drive you need at least that much.  He has 1 gig of ram
[08:42] <nooby_god> I just tried out ubuntu for a month and I found a few things that irked me, does anyone want to her my complains? (perhaps to make ubuntu better?)
[08:42] <WooD> Foobal:  like what address ?
[08:43] <Jack_Sparrow> ome term apt-get update
[08:43] <nooby_god> 1there is no good prism2 integration (no different then using Gentoo), there is a bug for tat
[08:44] <nooby_god> 2. Ubuntu is not good because it suffers from debains problem too, you can't always have the latest version
[08:44] <greddy> anyone have a good link to what exactly mount points are?
[08:44] <greddy> i have my 2 gig partition set to swap
[08:44] <nooby_god> I cannot get Inkscape 0.44 or Amaork 1.4.1
[08:44] <greddy> and my 17 gig set to /
[08:44] <nooby_god> greddy you do not mount swap
[08:44] <ome> Jack_sparrow: I just did sudo apt-get update and it didnt crash. Does that tell us anything?
[08:44] <nooby_god> just activate it
[08:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra: hda3 is 6 gig correct?
[08:44] <Bazzi> nooby_god: yes you can get amarok1.4.1
[08:45] <Bazzi> don't know about inkscape though
[08:45] <greddy> what do you mean dont mount swap?
[08:45] <nooby_god> Bazzi from a supported respitory?
[08:45] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow right .. but those are full... Dont know why.. if there r new :S
[08:45] <Sanne> nooby_god, it's by design. If you want to always get the latest software, ubuntu might not be for you. Ubuntu is meant to be stable for 6 months.
[08:45] <nooby_god> greddy you don't mount swap
[08:45] <erUSUL> nooby_god: any distro suffers from that...
[08:45] <Bazzi> nooby_god: yes, from the kubuntu.org repository
[08:45] <gnomefreak> nooby_god: inscape is not in a repo that i know of (atleast that version) as for amarok you need to add the amarok repo to your sources.list file to get 1.4.1
[08:45] <nooby_god> erUSUL, not gentoo
[08:45] <greddy> okay so in the prepare mount screen on the install
[08:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  IS it full or was it just never formatted for use
[08:45] <BIAF> apt-get install sendmail - is failing, any other ways to get send mail
[08:45] <greddy> what should i have selected?
[08:45] <nooby_god> greddy you mount a partition if you want to access it
[08:46] <gnomefreak> BIAF: what is the failure notice?
[08:46] <nooby_god> greddy don't ask me I'm new to Ubuntu
[08:46] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow the 2Gbs partition was full, then i resize it to 6gbs
[08:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ome what happened when you typed that
[08:46] <Ropechoborra> 3gbs are supoused to be in blank
[08:46] <Pupeno> Which would you say is a better bet, the pre-packaged Ati drivers or the ati.com's one for a Radeon x1300 ?
[08:46] <BIAF> gnomefreak : e: package sendmail has no installation candidate
[08:47] <gnomefreak> !info sendmail
[08:47] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In repository universe, is extra. Version 8.13.5-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 188 kB, installed size 244 kB
[08:47] <greddy> i have 3 paritions : programs (17gig), swap (2gig), storage (50gig) what should i have setup in the mount points screen?
[08:47] <gnomefreak> BIAF: enable universe repo
[08:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  delete hda3 DONT RESIZE it
[08:47] <erUSUL> nooby_god: even gentoo has a stable version out of date. debian has inestable too with inkscape 0.44 and amarok 1.4.whatever. it is just that gentoo users run the inestable version always
[08:47] <ome> Jack_Sparrow: bunch of get, hit and fetch lines
[08:47] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow but.. i will loose my linux =/ isnt other way?
[08:47] <BIAF> freak : wheres the file to un-rem the lines
[08:47] <nooby_god> greddy do you know what a mount point is?
[08:47] <greddy> no clue :P
[08:47] <gnomefreak> BIAF: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:48] <BIAF> thx
[08:48] <ome> Jack_Sparrow: the packet manager greyed out for a bit but its back to orange nagging 3 updates available
[08:48] <gnomefreak> BIAF: easy way gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:48] <gnomefreak> !repos > BIAF
[08:48] <Jack_Sparrow> rpoe you can tar your linux install then repair hda3 and untar it
[08:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about backup
[08:48] <gnomefreak> also your pm has a real easy way
[08:48] <HackerX> ***Hey is there a way to create a link on the desktop to run a wireless scan???***
[08:48] <BIAF> thx, was going to do gksudo nautilus
[08:48] <Jack_Sparrow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[08:49] <Ropechoborra> Thanks!
[08:49] <nooby_god> greddy are you here
[08:49] <Jack_Sparrow> ome:  you may need to repair your sources list
[08:49] <NKayhan> hey, I'm having trouble getting the mplayer pluggin to work in firefox/opera
[08:49] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[08:50] <ome> Jack_Sparrow how do i got about that?
[08:50] <Barkley> is there a newbie tool in gnome for LVM? :D
[08:50] <greddy> nooby_god: can you see my pms?
[08:50] <NKayhan> I've done the stuff in synaptic, but firefox doesn't recognize it
[08:50] <jrib> NKayhan: I can try to help you out in firefox, I hear it's tricky in opera
[08:50] <nooby_god> greddy nope, you need to be registared on freenode
[08:50] <greddy> i don't think you can see my replys
[08:50] <greddy> yeah
[08:50] <greddy> i can see what you type
[08:50] <nooby_god> greddy a mount point is basicly this
[08:51] <NKayhan> jrib: let's just do firefox then
[08:51] <nooby_god> you have / right? and under / you have many many folders like /usr or /var or /bin
[08:51] <jrib> NKayhan: ok, you installed mozilla-mplayer and then restarted firefox?
[08:51] <nooby_god> or you have /mnt/win
[08:51] <NKayhan> jrib: yes
[08:51] <greddy> yup
[08:51] <nooby_god> basicly a mount point is where you can access the other partitions
[08:51] <nooby_god> so I have a mount point called /win
[08:52] <ome> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d17367
[08:52] <nooby_god> there I can access my windows partition
[08:52] <jrib> NKayhan: can you pastebin the contents of 'about:plugins' after you enter that in your address bar?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:52] <nooby_god> so /dev/hda1 is mounted at /dev/win
[08:52] <greddy> well on the installation screen it tells me that i need to pick a mount for my swap which is the confusion i think
[08:52] <nooby_god> */win not /dev/win
[08:52] <tylerortman> hello all, I have a quick, probably obvious question about licensing--I've looked around more than I'd like to admit but can't find exactly what i'm looking for
[08:53] <nooby_god> greddy I'm new to Ubuntu, I've only used the installer once, and I didn't pay attention
[08:53] <greddy> so can i do "/" as my installation mount and then do "/home" as my storage mount?
[08:53] <stephan__> i need help scripting anyone good
[08:53] <tylerortman> I'm looking for the exact wording of the licensing that should go onto a liveCD, distributed publicly
[08:53] <nickwebcouk> how can i format a drive as bootable in ubuntu
[08:53] <greddy> what about "/boot"?
[08:54] <nooby_god> greddy you can do that
[08:54] <greddy> there are a few others to
[08:54] <greddy> any links to specifics?
[08:54] <nooby_god> greddy it's a good idea for security to keep /boot on a different partition
[08:54] <greddy> ermmm heh k
[08:54] <nooby_god> if / is screwed up, you can still access the kernel
[08:55] <nickwebcouk> ne1?
[08:55] <NKayhan> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17368
[08:55] <nooby_god> I have three storage partitions, one for /, one for /home and /win
[08:55] <greddy> ermmm k
[08:55] <greddy> well this comp wont have windows
[08:55] <greddy> so i'm gonna give this a shot
[08:55] <alex_> how opens the C compiler???
[08:56] <greddy> installing now :>
[08:56] <WooD> I still cant open Stream file from the www.nasa.org.. Im coming desperate.... someone told me to install MPlayer and install the essentiel codecs to /usr/lib/win32.. i did  and does not work either....
[08:56] <Barkley> anyone know if there's a GUI front end for LVM in gnome?
[08:56] <nooby_god> greddy are you new to linux?
[08:56] <greddy> bah the installer just crashed :/
[08:56] <greddy> yes i am
[08:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !gnu
[08:56] <ubotu> G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org
[08:56] <WooD> I want to be able to play one of those file from this website .. http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/
[08:57] <jrib> NKayhan: do you have mozilla-plugin-vlc installed?
[08:57] <Sub> !dma
[08:57] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[08:57] <NKayhan> jrib: yes
[08:57] <nooby_god> greddy I personally suggest reading the help docs and some parts of the wiki that pertain to you before doing anything
[08:57] <braim> hi everyone
[08:57] <alex_> how opens the C compiler???
[08:57] <jrib> NKayhan: remove it, I think it's taking precedence over mplayer's
[08:57] <greddy> yeah i read a bit i guess ill read a bit more
[08:57] <NKayhan> jrib: OK
[08:57] <nooby_god> reading docs is the most important part of linux
[08:57] <kike> hola
[08:57] <nooby_god> !sp
[08:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about sp
[08:57] <a_l_e> alex_: with a screw driver...
[08:57] <braim> I need some help with an external drive. Can anyone help me ?
[08:57] <tsume> nooby_god: not really
[08:58] <a_l_e> alex_: a can opener?
[08:58] <Jack_Sparrow> greddy: Why not just let Ubuntu handle the partitions ..
[08:58] <Sanne> alex_, you use it from the command line.
[08:58] <tsume> nooby_god: being knowledable and knowing how to think is more important
[08:58] <kike> ekiga no me reconoce el mic
[08:58] <greddy> bah the installer crashed now all my drives are locked or something :/
[08:58] <nooby_god> tsume you can only be knowledgeable if you read docs
[08:58] <tsume> nooby_god: not really
[08:58] <a_l_e> alex_: i guess you want to compile something with gcc... i'm right?
[08:58] <alex_> yes
[08:58] <braim> no one ?
[08:59] <a_l_e> alex_: it's something you downloaded or did you write the code?
[08:59] <SonicChao> greddy: You're Ubuntu installer crashed?
[08:59] <tsume> nooby_god: I haven't read any docs, I just know how  to use programs because I modify the sources so much ;)
[08:59] <NKayhan> jrib: WOOT IT WORKS
[08:59] <alex_> what i have to type in terminal to open compiler?
[08:59] <jrib> NKayhan: great
[08:59] <kike> alguien habla espaol?
[08:59] <alex_> i download it
[08:59] <SonicChao> !es
[08:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:59] <Jowi> !es
[08:59] <a_l_e> alex_: probably, yes you need the terminal...
[08:59] <SonicChao> Jowi: Already done. :)
[08:59] <a_l_e> alex_: ... but you don't need to launch gcc to compile a program.
[08:59] <NKayhan> jrib: thnx man, I thought putting both on would help, bye
[08:59] <Jowi> SonicChao: beaten by 0.2 seconds. *sob*
[09:00] <a_l_e> alex_: i guess you should give us/me some more details before i can tell you what you should do...
[09:00] <alex_> how i can do it
[09:00] <alex_> ok
[09:00] <Sanne> braim, better just describe your problem. If somebody knows, I'm sure you'll get help.
[09:00] <SonicChao> Jowi: lol ;)
[09:00] <alex_> what you want to know?
[09:00] <a_l_e> ... but most of the time, reading the README file in the package you downloaded will answer a lot of question!
[09:00] <mdasilva> ?
[09:00] <SonicChao> greddy: Are you still here...?
[09:00] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[09:00] <a_l_e> alex_: what are you trying to do? what do you want to compile/install?
[09:00] <SonicChao> !hi
[09:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about hi
[09:00] <LeaChim> braim, what's your problem with your external drive?
[09:01] <SonicChao> Darn...the ops didn't add my "hi" factoid
[09:01] <SonicChao> :(
[09:01] <alex_> i have a problem with wine
[09:01] <MacSlow> I wonder what possible legal issues are involved in using the ubuntu-logo (with link) to pimp it on ones site.
[09:01] <SonicChao> alex_: what is it?
[09:01] <alex_> i download a source bagfix
[09:01] <alex_> and i have to compile it
[09:01] <recn> hey all... have a question about initrd. i need stdin while in initrd.  "tty" tells me im using /dev/console.  tried installing usbcore and usbhid and i still get nothing from my kbd. what am i doing wrong?
[09:02] <a_l_e> alex_: i guess that you have to compile the whole wine, then!
[09:02] <alex_> it is a text with c
[09:02] <braim> oh sorry leaChim :-) I pluged it but the owner is not the root and i'd like to change that.
[09:02] <braim> :-)
[09:02] <alex_> no
[09:02] <alex_> just the bagfix
[09:02] <alex_> i have a problem with WoW
[09:02] <tsume> I like how people steal the ubuntu logo, its halarious
[09:02] <tsume> I seen it being used as menu bullets on a website
[09:03] <a_l_e> alex_: "bugfix
[09:03] <alex_> yes
[09:03] <sysrpl> hello
[09:03] <SonicChao> !wow
[09:03] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:03] <AutoPilo1> hi again, I gave up on installing my linksys wusb54gsv2 wireless on ubuntu, I need to purchase a wireless adapter, usb or pci, from best buy, anyone can give me a definite answer which product would work on ubuntu amd64? I searched prism2 and didn't find a straight forward answer
[09:03] <a_l_e> alex_: can you give me a linke to the bugfix?
[09:03] <sysrpl> what's the best ubuntu/kubuntu cd burning package?
[09:03] <TSWoodV> Hello!  What's the current story for NetworkManager and WPA/WPA2 with Atheros chipsets on 6.06?  Still SOL?
[09:03] <J-_> How can I get permission to write to  my external Hard drive from linux?
[09:03] <tsume> sysrpl: k3b
[09:03] <alex_> yes wait
[09:03] <alex_> http://kaspersandberg.com/~redeeman/winestuff/wine-wow-fixes-0.9.16.patch
[09:03] <Jack_Sparrow> sysrpl: i LIKE k3B
[09:03] <Oarchimondeo> test
[09:03] <sysrpl> tsume: i have k3b, thanks ... i was just wondering if it was the best
[09:04] <Cyberai> I am having I am having a serious sound problem here folks, no matter what I do I can't get sound working in Dapper. Everything worked in Breezy. I even tried doing a "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" as root and get nothing.
[09:04] <Cyberai> someone please help me here
[09:04] <tsume> TSWoodV: tell ya what, pay some money, and someone will develop all your needs ;)
[09:04] <Jowi> J-_: what is the system type on it?
[09:04] <tsume> sysrpl: yep, pretty much it is.
[09:04] <a_l_e> alex_: i don't think that you have a binary patch which you can apply to wine. i think that you have to apply the patch (with diff) to the source code, and then install from the source (./configure && make && make install)
[09:04] <grenegar> test
[09:04] <TSWoodV> tsume:  Now, why would I want to do that? ;-)
[09:04] <J-_> ntfs. that was the only option
[09:04] <Oarchimondeo> Hi, I just ordered some Ubuntu install disks online, never used anything but Windows before, any tips?
[09:04] <tsume> sysrpl: if you're making video cds and such, there is vitod or whatever it is
[09:04] <sysrpl> i am downloading partition magic because when i instealled the live cd setup only allocated 4GB of drive space for ubuntu
[09:04] <Foobal> J-_: ntfstools.
[09:04] <sysrpl> the rest is ntfs
[09:04] <Jowi> J-_: not sure if ntfs write support is stable. maybe someone else ?
[09:05] <tsume> TSWoodV: well then you're still SOL. Developers have to eat too :) so, wheres the money? ;)
[09:05] <J-_> Foobal: thanks.
[09:05] <braim> no ntfs write support is still experimental ;-)
[09:05] <J-_> d'oh
[09:05] <Zambezi> Can any help me with tct? I'm too stressed to even think!
[09:05] <TSWoodV> tsume: In my pockets - we network admins/DBAs have to eat too!
[09:05] <AutoPilo1> please help, haven't slept in 2 days, i really need this,  a dapper compatible wireless adapter, usb or pci or anything
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:05] <alex_> what is diff??
[09:05] <TSWoodV> tsume: And there's the small matter of the wife and three kids...
[09:05] <tsume> TSWoodV: well then I guess you're sol ;)
[09:05] <braim> it works but not really stable. I tried it once and I had to format a partition completely :-)
[09:06] <Jowi> alex_: diff compares files
[09:06] <J-_> so, when will it be a non-experimental package =D
[09:06] <a_l_e> alex_: it's a source diff file. i really think that you have to have to whole source code for wine, apply the patch to it and install from there. i don't know if it's something you are ready to do!
[09:06] <Sanne> Zambezi, what is tct?
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> J-_: When it works and stops trashing NTFS systems
[09:06] <TSWoodV> tsume: True, that!
[09:06] <ome> Jack_Sparrow: can you point me someone I can start figuring out how to repair sourcelist?
[09:06] <Zambezi> Sanne, Recoveryapplication.
[09:06] <alex_> ohh
[09:06] <tsume> funny FreeBSD had support 3 years then linux for ntfs write, it even had read support before :)
[09:06] <ome> Jack_Sparrow: Somewhere*
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ome:  there was a link someone had for rebuilding source list
[09:06] <nooby_god> AutoPilo1 there are a lot of linux compatible wireless cards
[09:07] <Sanne> Zambezi, thanks. Don't know it then, though.
[09:07] <nooby_god> some of them are just harder to set up then others :/
[09:07] <TSWoodV> tsume: Those BSD playas got no fear, that's why! ;-)
[09:07] <tsume> the only thing about ntfs which is hard to implement is the encrypted folders :)
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ome:  google rebuilding source.lst
[09:07] <tsume> TSWoodV: yeah well :) you seen the article on trolldot about openbsd's wifi drivers being much better ;)
[09:07] <sysrpl> crap
[09:07] <J-_> that's pretty much what's stopping me from going full-tilt into linux )-=
[09:07] <sysrpl> i have to reboot to windows
[09:07] <Jowi> J-_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NTFSReadWrite for more info
[09:07] <alex_> thanks a_l_e
[09:07] <J-_> damn you windows
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> J-_: When it works and stops trashing NTFS systems or when Microsoft gives out full specs on it..
[09:07] <tsume> sysrpl: qemu all the way
[09:08] <a_l_e> alex_: but it's not black magic. you can do it, there is nothing very difficult with applying this patch. but you have to be confortable with using the terminal, spend some time to understand what is difff and how it works...
[09:08] <TSWoodV> tsume: Whatever those guys set their sights on gets done really well - openssh, anyone?
[09:08] <sysrpl> what is qemu?
[09:08] <sysrpl> i need to run partition magic
[09:08] <alex_> ok tnx
[09:08] <tsume> sysrpl: a very fast emulator, the latest release rocks.
[09:08] <a_l_e> ... and then lern how to configure // install some source code.
[09:08] <SGershon> Hi all.
[09:08] <Raito> So I have ubuntu, and I installed the 'kubuntu-desktop' and 'xubuntu-desktop', my bootsplash changed to kubuntu and gdm to xubuntu, any way I can change then both to ubuntu?
[09:08] <flankk> Anyone know of a way to enable compiz drop shadows on ARGB visuals?
[09:08] <tsume> sysrpl: headles operation with VNC support
[09:08] <sysrpl> hrm
[09:08] <SGershon> I'm really enjoying dapper. Cool.
[09:08] <sysrpl> i wonder if it will run partition magic?
[09:08] <sysrpl> ah
[09:09] <sysrpl> i better just reboot
[09:09] <TSWoodV> sysrpl: Ditch partition magic - try gparted instead.
[09:09] <Jowi> nice SGershon :)
[09:09] <tsume> sysrpl: you're using partition magic? :D
[09:09] <a_l_e> ok, going to bed, now! good night!
[09:09] <sorush20> I'm having problems with installing build-essentials in  dchroot -c mychroot -d
[09:09] <SGershon> sysrpl: why don't you use gparted?
[09:09] <SGershon> sysrpl: It is very easy to use.
[09:09] <sysrpl> well when i installed ubuntu the in staller only gave me a 4GB partition
[09:09] <Barkley> SGershon --- is there an equiv tool for LVM?
[09:09] <sysrpl> is that the package name? gparted?
[09:09] <sorush20> I keep being prompted for password to use with sudo but the password is incorrect.. I have followed this how to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[09:09] <J-_> think i'm just going to wait until i can get a stable version of fuse
[09:10] <TSWoodV> Anyone here able to recompile the kernel from the Ubuntu linux-source package on dapper?  I get errors trying make-kpkg on some of the modules.
[09:10] <Raito> sysrpl: don't install a package, use the live CD, or when you install 'edit partition tables manually'
[09:10] <Jowi> sysrpl: yep, it is the package name.
[09:10] <TSWoodV> sysrpl: That's it - gparted
[09:10] <sysrpl> i already tried that
[09:10] <SGershon> sysrpl: Yes. You must run it as root (sudo -s).  How can I create an extended partition in order to contain other partitions? Any time I press "New", I've got an error asking me to create an extended instead of primary one.
[09:13] <sysrpl> shit, gparted wont le me resize my main ext3 partition
[09:13] <bbrazil> tylerortman: it's a long, long list
[09:14] <eCokeNCod> jeeze i'm getting some lag out of this world
[09:14] <scott__> hey, im trying to setup grub to boot back into a windows xp parition i have, it is on hda2. i have looked at howto on ubuntuforums but when i tried it said it couldnt boot into it, so im guessing i set the root parition wrong on it? i set it to root(hd0,2) (although it comes up as hda3 iirc in fdisk
[09:14] <SGershon> sysrpl: It is hard to unmount the partition you are working on. Try te Live-CD.
[09:14] <eCokeNCod> how much bandwidth does ssh ned ?
[09:14] <POVaddct> SGershon: if gparted is too stupid, why not using cfdisk or fdisk?
[09:14] <cougem> i i've got a kde program running in gnome which uses fake transparency by using the kde background as its background. but, coz im in gnome it can't find my current background for the transparency. is there any way i can get around it?
[09:14] <sysrpl> maybe i need to aplly a change to my ntfs first
[09:14] <eCokeNCod> *need
[09:14] <brainsik> so, i'm trying to install ubuntu. i'd like to be able to get to the boot: prompt so i can try passing some options in. how the heck do i get to it from this graphical screen?
[09:14] <cougem> like set some variable with the path to my background?
[09:14] <kaot> I notice /var/cache/apt/archives is taking up nearly a GB of space.  I seem to recall it's good form to keep that stuff laying around, to some extent, to conserve bandwidth to the repos.  How often can I clean that up?
[09:15] <tsume> *gag* Can't... breath.. noobs.. taking.. too.. much.. air..
[09:15] <nooby_god> kaot I clear that all the time
[09:15] <SGershon> POVaddct: fdisk is a bit hard. I may try cfdisk.
[09:15] <kaot> fair nuff.  Off it goes.  Thanks
[09:15] <tylerortman> bbrazil: is there no official wording to put on something like that?
[09:15] <nooby_god> tsume get out of the chan if you don't like noobs
[09:15] <brainsik> kaot: i keep Clean-Installed "false" in my apt.conf and use apt-get autoclean every now and then
[09:15] <tsume> TSWoodV: I wish there was a ubuntu-advanced channel
[09:16] <nooby_god> remember Ubuntu is now concidered an enerty point to linux
[09:16] <brainsik> that will keep around only the packages of the currently installed set
[09:16] <nooby_god> tsume join #gentoo for advanced stuff
[09:16] <TSWoodV> Another curveball:  Anyone here reenable the firmware for a Keyspan USB to serial adapter?  Seems that Debian doesn't like the fact that these beasts require closed-source firmware to kickstart.
[09:16] <tsume> nooby_god: I know. I'm just used to having intresting discussions in channels like #freebsd
[09:16] <brainsik> kaot: generally i'll run the autoclean before an upgrade
[09:16] <tsume> nooby_god: are you kidding me.. thats like kiddie central.
[09:16] <kaot> brainsik: I see
[09:16] <tsume> list #ubuntu-*
[09:16] <TSWoodV> So they created a driver for these Keyspan boxes without the firmware.  Useless.  Completely useless.
[09:17] <brainsik> kaot: then you can roll back if something breaks
[09:17] <bbrazil> tylerortman: I don't think so. Usually you make something up like 'You are free to use and copy this CD at no charge'
[09:17] <tsume> grr to freenode limitations
[09:17] <bbrazil> tylerortman: if ompaul is around he has some good text
[09:17] <brainsik> kaot: that's on debian, though. i'm trying to install ubuntu right now and getting nowhere.
[09:17] <Barkley> kaot hey is there a decent lvm tool with a gui?
[09:17] <SGershon> tsume: if there was an ubuntu-advanced channel, there would be many noobs on it as well. I would be there, at least -- even if only listening... ;)
[09:17] <kaot> brainsik: bummer
[09:17] <TSWoodV> tsume: Yep - an advanced ubuntu channel would be nice.  Don't see that happening, however.  Glad to see the n00bs here though.  n00bs => growth in Linux usage, a Really Good Thing (tm).
[09:18] <kaot> Barkley: dunno.  haven't played with lvm at all
[09:18] <grenegar> !search n00b
[09:18] <ubotu> Found nothing
[09:18] <tsume> TSWoodV: I'm a network admin, my type of chat is implementation, programming, etc. Not support
[09:18] <TSWoodV> ubotu needs to look around a bit...
[09:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about needs to look around a bit...
[09:18] <greddy> is it a common problem to have all sorts of distortion on buttons?
[09:18] <brainsik> !search boot:
[09:18] <ubotu> Found nothing
[09:18] <kaot> brainsik: this is my first debian-based distro so i haven't done anything with apt before now.  kind of trying to figure this out on the fly.
[09:18] <greddy> i guess maybe i should find some non generic drivers
[09:19] <tsume> SGershon: listening would be fine, but any noob questions would get the person kicked
[09:19] <TSWoodV> tsume: Network admin/research for the most part here.
[09:19] <brainsik> well if you want to do what i'm doing, you can create /etc/apt/apt.conf and put this in it:
[09:19] <tsume> hmm, a name.
[09:19] <brainsik> APT {
[09:19] <brainsik>         Clean-Installed "false";
[09:19] <brainsik> };
[09:19] <tsume> hmm
[09:19] <tylerortman> bbrazil: thanks. sorry to be a bother, just trying to spread the joy.
[09:19] <TSWoodV> tsume: Not kicked, rejoined here.
[09:19] <tsume> I got it
[09:20] <tsume> #ubuntu-tech - discussions for people who are advanced.
[09:20] <tsume> ;)
[09:20] <neighborlee> has anyone had trouble trying to install VLC ?? ;-
[09:21] <neighborlee> im getting dep errors with libdbus
[09:21] <neighborlee> vlc: Depends: libdbus-1-1 (>= 0.36.2) but it is not going to be installed
[09:21] <neighborlee> E: Broken packages
[09:21] <neighborlee> any idea ? ;)
[09:23] <bbrazil> tylerortman: check a CD from shipit if you have one
[09:23] <loko555> does anyone know how i can disable sound in firefox. cause the sound is very loud and not adjustable with the system-sound-mixer
[09:23] <ome> Jack_Sparrow: The crash occures just by opening packet manager, even when i dont click anything. Could it still be source.lst?
[09:23] <sysrpl> uhm
[09:23] <bbrazil> tylerortman: here's one "You are legally free t copy, modify and redistribute this DVD."
[09:24] <sysrpl> gparted wont allow me to resize my linux partition
[09:24] <ToHellWithGA> what is a "dummy package"?
[09:25] <ToHellWithGA> sysrpl: boot with a live CD then resize the partition
[09:25] <ToHellWithGA> parted can't resize an active partition, and the very act of running parted from your / partition makes it active
[09:25] <brainsik> Does anyone know how to get to the boot: prompt from the install disc?
[09:25] <tylerortman> bbrazil: seems like I should give GPL a shout-out...it's a CD packaged w/a book
[09:25] <Barkley> so is ext3 recommend even for big mp3 drives?
[09:25] <sysrpl> i already did that, and it didn't resize my partition
[09:25] <kaot> brainsik: ctrl-alt-F1?  haven't had to do it myself
[09:25] <kaot> i'd try that tho
[09:26] <brainsik> okay, i'll try that
[09:26] <Foobal> tylerortman: how you suppose you can say the disc is GPL when not all the applications on it are definitely not GPL
[09:26] <Jowi> neighborlee: just tried it and it works fine. maybe you have conflicting apt sources?
[09:26] <loko555> does anyone know how i can disable sound in firefox. cause the sound is very loud and not adjustable with the system-sound-mixer?
[09:26] <ToHellWithGA> Foobal: let's see how many negatives we can but in a sentence :P
[09:27] <ToHellWithGA> loko555: have you tried about:config ?
[09:27] <brainsik> kaot: yeah, doesn't work.. forgot i already tried that for F1-10 :)
[09:27] <jrib> loko555: if you double click on the sound icon in gnome and change the pcm volume does that affect it?
[09:27] <baumer> apache2.conf is missing on my 'puter, what package provides it?
[09:27] <sorush20> guys after installing the debootstrap.. and using the  dchroot -c mychroot -d , will I still be asked for the root password?
[09:27] <loko555> ToHellWithGA: where to look there?
[09:27] <Foobal> yeah
[09:28] <kaot> brainsik: doh.  I tried the install disk to upgrade to dapper, where i learned of that bug where it crashes if you want to leave your partitions intact, and did it through upgrade manager instead
[09:28] <loko555> jrib: this does no affect
[09:28] <kaot> so i didn't do a whole lot with the 6.06 installer
[09:28] <ToHellWithGA> loko555: you can type "about:config" where you'd type a URL in firefox and then search for options to toggle
[09:28] <loko555> jrib: this is not normal i guess?
[09:28] <loko555> ToHellWithGA: i know what about:config is, but i didn
[09:28] <brainsik> kaot: at least you can get to the upgrade manager :)
[09:29] <cntb> what is the difference between gksudo and sudo
[09:29] <jrib> loko555: is this sound from flash?  or actually from firefox (like search errors for example)
[09:29] <loko555> ToHellWithGA: i know what about:config is, but i didn't find anything according to the sound
[09:29] <jrib> cntb: gksudo plays nice with the gui
[09:29] <slugicide> Is there a special repository for getting Opera 9, 'cause I can't see it?
[09:29] <cntb> I ran gksudo gparted what if I did sudo gparted?
[09:29] <ToHellWithGA> that's my best guess loko555.  good luck to ya
[09:29] <loko555> jrib: i think it is flash
[09:29] <loko555> ToHellWithGA: thx
[09:30] <cntb> 10x jrib
[09:30] <stephan__> how would i do a shell script of ----- if the $? is anything other than 0 list its error
[09:30] <tylerortman> Foobal: i know I can't...that's why I'm looking for the official line on this
[09:30] <ToHellWithGA> 6x7=42
[09:30] <ToHellWithGA> cntb: what's the 10x about?
[09:31] <cntb> serious  question ToHellWithGA ???????/
[09:31] <jrib> loko555: yeah for me pcm controls the flash volume, you can run 'alsamixer' in a terminal and see all of the possibilites
[09:31] <GianLuigiBuffon> how can I kill a frozen program on wine?
[09:31] <jrib> ToHellWithGA: ten-x thx thanks
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> stephan__: http://arachnoid.com/linux/shell_programming.html
[09:31] <GianLuigiBuffon> realplayer is froozen
[09:31] <ToHellWithGA> ok
[09:31] <ToHellWithGA> i hadn't seen that before
[09:31] <jrattner1> My current vehicle is an interstellar star ship...
[09:32] <cntb> OK
[09:32] <jrib> GianLuigiBuffon: do you know that realplayer can run on linux without wine?
[09:32] <GianLuigiBuffon> jrib didn't know xDD but now how I kill it?
[09:32] <loko555> jrib: i tried it, but maybe it is a problem cause i have intel high definition audio in the notebook, i'll keep on trying, thank you
[09:32] <stephan__> Jack_Sparrow, ty
[09:32] <slugicide> Is there a special repository for getting Opera 9, 'cause I can't see it?
[09:32] <jrib> GianLuigiBuffon: try running 'xkill' in a terminal and then click on it
[09:32] <feugan3333> hello, My notification-daemon seems broken. It says that I have 3 updates but when I click on it, it says "downloading package infromation" and the gui dissappears (crashed?)
[09:32] <GianLuigiBuffon> ty
[09:32] <Foobal> tylerortman: official? then you'll most likely hit all kinds of fundamentalists (especially the kernel developers).. you're better off just providing everything with "as-is" license and getting rid of the responsibilities
[09:33] <feugan3333> Anyone know about such a problem?
[09:33] <mc_____> jrib, that shoul come into the FAQ
[09:33] <GianLuigiBuffon> no way
[09:33] <Phoul>  (/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libXrender.la: No such file or directory
[09:33] <Phoul> libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libXrender.la' is not a valid libtool archive
[09:33] <Phoul> Any ideas?
[09:33] <errpast-wc> Am newbie, running 6.06 DD very happily.  Is it realtively easy to setup of an scp server, so I can move files to my home box?
[09:33] <GianLuigiBuffon> i log out then
[09:34] <neighborlee> Jowi, hmm are you running 32 or 64 bit os ?
[09:34] <jrib> !ssh > errpast-wc
[09:34] <Zambezi> Can any help me with tct?
[09:34] <Jowi> neighborlee: pure 32
[09:34] <neighborlee> ah mine is 64
[09:34] <brainsik> !search boot
[09:34] <ubotu> Found: rescue, grub, lilo, ifrename, boot, installing, lamp, lost+found, bootoptions, password (and 1 more)
[09:34] <neighborlee> Jowi, might be why dunno
[09:34] <Phoul> anyone know about my issue?
[09:34] <cntb> ok few days ago I was on fedora .  my preferred dual boot there was thru boot.ini. grub not on MBR. thru rescue disk Itake boot sector to a file in windows boot partition.pls tell me how to dothis in UBUNTU !
[09:34] <neighborlee> Jowi, during previous syaptic runs I had no errors so this is odd
[09:35] <brainsik> ubotu tell me about bootoptions
[09:35] <Flannel> feugan3333: are you a sudoer on the machine?
[09:35] <Jowi> neighborlee: dunno either. never had a 64bit cpu
[09:35] <brainsik> hrmm
[09:35] <brainsik> !ubotu bootoptions
[09:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu bootoptions
[09:35] <cntb> wow  coincidence
[09:35] <brainsik> !bootoptions
[09:35] <ubotu> For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[09:35] <jrattner1> QUESTION: What is Lost + Found and why is nothing ever found in there?
[09:35] <cntb> !search boot
[09:35] <ubotu> Found: rescue, grub, lilo, ifrename, boot, installing, lamp, lost+found, bootoptions, password (and 1 more)
[09:35] <nicktk1> i hate this
[09:35] <nicktk1> lol
[09:35] <feugan3333> Flannel: I'm not sure what you mean, I enter my password using the GUI
[09:36] <nicktk1> its sooooo hard to install wifi
[09:36] <pupeno> Ok, it is looking better now.
[09:36] <Flannel> feugan3333: oh, it asks?  alright.  So, is it the right password?  Do you have synaptic (or some other package manager) open?
[09:37] <Foobal> nicktkl: install the network manager after the drivers work :)
[09:37] <jrattner1> Network Manager Sucks
[09:37] <feugan3333> Flannel: No I don't have any other package manager open.
[09:38] <HackerX> Hey, Is there anyway to make a shortcut on the desktop to run a network scan?
[09:38] <nicktk1> is there an easy way of installing this
[09:38] <Phoul> can anyone help me?
[09:38] <HackerX> nicktk1, What are you trying to install?
[09:38] <Jowi> !anyone
[09:38] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:38] <Redrose> How do i get the most out of my battery life on ubuntu
[09:38] <nicktk1> phoul...
[09:38] <Phoul> Yes?
[09:39] <nicktk1> im trying to install wirless card
[09:39] <nicktk1> do i know u
[09:39] <Phoul> Okay?
[09:39] <QRZ> HackerX:  What network scanning tool do you want to use?
[09:39] <cowbud> Phoul: ask your question..
[09:39] <HackerX> nicktk1, is there a deb pack for it?
[09:39] <kaot> hur hur hur
[09:39] <Redrose> nicktk1, what's the card?
[09:39] <Phoul> I did already but here i will repeat it
[09:39] <Phoul> s GianLuigiBuffon
 Network Manager Sucks
[09:39] <nicktk1> lemme check
[09:39] <Phoul> ohh umm
[09:39] <Phoul> that was a mistake
[09:39] <Phoul> sorry
[09:39] <kaot> doesn't that network tools gui app have nmap built in?
[09:39] <tylerortman> thanks for the advice, bbrazil and Foobal
[09:39] <nicktk1> its a linksys g wirless
[09:39] <Jowi> Phoul: have you installed libxrender?
[09:39] <Phoul> (/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libXrender.la: No such file or directory
[09:39] <Phoul> libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libXrender.la' is not a valid libtool archive
[09:39] <Phoul> Yes i have
[09:39] <Redrose> nicktk1, do you know what madwifi is?
[09:40] <nicktk1> no
[09:40] <Jowi> Phoul: and the devfiles as well?
[09:40] <Phoul> yes
[09:40] <HackerX> well i have to use ndiswrapper so i dont belive all finders like kismet dont work
[09:40] <HackerX> so i want to use the terminal command
[09:40] <HackerX> but i want a shortcut
[09:40] <Barkley> ok need some guidance here. i have 4 disks im mounting in ubuntu.  i created names for the devices in /media/hda1 sdb1 etc.  so when the disks are mounted the media directory appears to list permissions for those device mount dirs that i set when the devices are mounted.  what should the underlying permissions be when they are not mounted?  should i just 775 or 777 the underlying mount dir then set 775 on it again when it's mounted?  th
[09:40] <HackerX> kaot, Hey
[09:40] <Redrose> nicktk1, can you tell me what the actual card its like a serial number?
[09:40] <jme> HackerX: tried writing an alias in bash?
[09:40] <greenpete> Hello!
[09:40] <nicktk1> um
[09:41] <nicktk1> yea
[09:41] <nicktk1> hold on
[09:41] <jme> !hello
[09:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about hello
[09:41] <Redrose> How do i tell ubuntu i am running it on a laptop, so that it will help to save power?
[09:41] <baumer> my apache2 install is hosed, how do I reinstall and overwrite all the config files?
[09:41] <Redrose> !laptop
[09:41] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[09:41] <jme> Redrose: most likely it has autodetected the laptop
[09:41] <HackerX> jme not sure how to do that, is there a way to make it run a scan every 5 or 10 secs or is there a tool already out that does that?
[09:41] <jme> Ubuntu has a builkt-in utility for that
[09:41] <nicktk1> meq20dch2179
[09:41] <Jowi> Phoul: if you do "dpkg -S libXrender.la" do you get any results?
[09:41] <nicktk1> or moddle number
[09:41] <jme> HackerX: have you tried Network Manager?
[09:41] <HackerX> hmm
[09:41] <Redrose> well the only reason i say it might not is because on windows, i get 3 hours battery, in ubuntu, i get 1.5 hour
[09:42] <mc_____> how to activate auto-login ?
[09:42] <Phoul> Jowi, yes i do
[09:42] <jme> HackerX: you can use just the daemon if you don't want to use the GUI Network Manager tool
[09:42] <Phoul> dpkg: *libXrender.la* not found.
[09:42] <mc_____> in dapper
[09:42] <HackerX> jme, well i have to use ndiswrapper and i dont think it works
[09:42] <jme> yeah, it depends on your card's abilities
[09:42] <Barkley> nevermind found it :) the answer was set the right permission on "."
[09:42] <HackerX> yea
[09:42] <QRZ> HackerX:  What is the command that you run, that works?
[09:43] <HackerX> but i can do a terminal scan and it finds it
[09:43] <jme> HackerX: try using iwconfig to set your card to associate with "any" AP
[09:43] <Redrose> nicktk1, haha... ok, is the card in?
[09:43] <Phoul> Jowi, dpkg: *libXrender.la* not found.
[09:43] <nicktk1> yea...oh btw im on windows
[09:43] <jme> mc_____: try http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_automatic_login_into_GNOME_.28not_secure.29
[09:43] <Jowi> Phoul: yeah, saw it. investigating
[09:43] <HackerX> jme, how do i set it?
[09:43] <Redrose> lol... ok, well get on linux
[09:43] <mc_____> jme, thank you
[09:43] <nicktk1> garrrrr windows
[09:44] <nicktk1> well you see i have no connection when on linux
[09:44] <HackerX> nicktk1, *feels ones pain*
[09:44] <Redrose> !battery
[09:44] <nicktk1> lol
[09:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about battery
[09:44] <Redrose> !power
[09:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about power
[09:44] <HackerX> heh
[09:44] <Phoul> !hockey
[09:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about hockey
[09:44] <Redrose> lol
[09:44] <Phoul> meh
[09:44] <Redrose> !love
[09:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about love
[09:44] <Redrose> lol
[09:44] <pupeno> !sex
[09:44] <nicktk1> is it possable to just copy the files from windows on linux
[09:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about sex
[09:44] <nicktk1> lol
[09:45] <Redrose> nicktk1, it's not a file, you need to et into ubuntu and check iwconfig
[09:45] <greenpete> I'd like to find people using Linux/Ubuntu in my area (oxfordshire UK) where would be a good place to do this please?
[09:45] <nicktk1> hmm
[09:45] <nicktk1> i do have something that might work
[09:45] <rsk> greenpete in your local lug
[09:45] <nicktk1> its a wirless game adapter....i could try that as a temporary solution
[09:45] <Phoul> what the heck is a "lug"
[09:45] <HackerX> whats the terminal command for a wireless device scan?
[09:46] <greenpete> Sorry what is lug?
[09:46] <HackerX> i forgot
[09:46] <ithiel> linux user group
[09:46] <Zedo> hi
[09:46] <rsk> linux user group
[09:46] <pupeno> greenpete: http://linux.org it has a directory of LUGs.
[09:46] <ithiel> local support/discussion groups of Linux Users
[09:46] <greenpete> Ok I can google that yes?
[09:46] <Phoul> To bad one dont exist near me haha
[09:46] <ithiel> ompaul runs an Irish Lug
[09:46] <Redrose> ok, does anyone know how to get the most battery life out of my laptop?
[09:46] <Redrose> any tips?
[09:46] <nicktk1> ok im gonna try a few things ill brb
[09:46] <ithiel> Redrose: turn it off
[09:47] <HackerX> ithiel, haha
[09:47] <Phoul> Jowi, anythin?
[09:47] <nicktk1> good bye
[09:47] <ithiel> Redrose: in all seriousness, turn the brightness all the way down
[09:47] <HackerX> redrose, yes that will save lots of batt
[09:47] <cntb> bored ppl #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:47] <greenpete> Found http://www.lug.org.uk/ thanks! Bye....
[09:48] <HackerX> ! commands
[09:48] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:48] <ithiel> !women
[09:48] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[09:48] <ithiel> interesting
[09:48] <Redrose> who do i turn the brightness down?
[09:48] <HackerX> ! sucking off men behind the dumpster at the local 7-11
[09:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about sucking off men behind the dumpster at the local 7-11
[09:48] <HackerX> haha
[09:49] <Jowi> Phoul: found the .a and .so file but not .la so far
[09:49] <Redrose> hahaha
[09:49] <jrattner1> hahaha
[09:49] <jrattner1> i bet you get banned but it was worth it : )
[09:49] <HackerX> haha
[09:49] <HackerX> ya i know but i cant get banned i need this channel
[09:49] <ithiel> HackerX: that's prolly a kick, but so worth it.
[09:49] <HackerX> heh
[09:49] <HackerX> its soo funny
[09:49] <HackerX> haha
[09:49] <jrattner1> or he'll get away with it....
[09:49] <HackerX> i love the ol bot
[09:49] <ithiel> !HackerX's Mom's drug habits.
[09:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about HackerX's Mom's drug habits.
[09:50] <HackerX> hah
[09:50] <Redrose> how do i turn the brightness down?
[09:50] <HackerX> redrose, its differnt for each laptop
[09:50] <HackerX> redrose, its a laptop control not a ubuntu control
[09:50] <Redrose> mmk...
[09:50] <ithiel> Redrose: do you have function keys that indicate bright/dark on your laptop?
[09:51] <pupeno> How do I choose between OpenGL implementations ? currently fglrxinfo shows I am using Mesa and I'd like to use the ATI one (thankfully, DRI seem s to be working) ?
[09:51] <adam0509> hi, I installed " imagemagick", but ccan't launch it by the command "imagemagick"...
[09:51] <Redrose> they are under the F6 F7 button
[09:51] <rsk> its not a gui program i belive
[09:51] <kbrooks> what did pupeno or ithiel do?
[09:51] <Seveas> kbrooks, bot abuse
[09:51] <fr3drik> Redrose: You're not supposed to. Try "convert".
[09:52] <adam0509> rsk, => talking to me ? :x
[09:52] <Redrose> fr3drik, convert?
[09:52] <fr3drik> adam0509: Ops, yes.
[09:52] <fr3drik> Redrose: Sorry :)
[09:52] <hubrisje> how do i check the ubuntu version on the console plz?
[09:52] <Seveas> hubrisje, lsb_release -a
[09:53] <pupeno> !logs
[09:53] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[09:53] <hubrisje> ok thx
[09:54] <Jowi> Phoul: nothing. what are you trying to compile?
[09:54] <Phoul> im trying to compile "gimmie"
[09:55] <haggel> guten abend
[09:55] <kbrooks> !de
[09:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:56] <freebse> haggel: lol guten abend :) aber english in here pls
[09:56] <haggel> oh, sry :)
[09:57] <alterr> hello guys, where is the site to report a bug ?
[09:57] <Seveas> !bugs
[09:57] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[09:57] <Jowi> Phoul: never heard off. either ask the author of gimmie or report a bug ("/msg ubotu bug" for info)
[09:57] <alterr> ubotu, thx
[09:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about thx
[09:57] <Redrose> my laptop has an "FN" button, which i can use to decrease the brightness, but it won't work, (FN+F7), any ideas?
[09:58] <gnomefreak> gimmie is not supported by ubuntu that i am aware of
[09:58] <cntb> alter lol
[09:58] <Ramunas> Redrose: its a harware button afaik, OS doesn't have anything to do with it
[09:58] <freebse> Redrose: it will not work, because this is related to your OS...
[09:58] <cntb> ubotu, thx
[09:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about thx
[09:59] <Ramunas> freebse: really?
[09:59] <jonah1980> hi trying to install scribus <IP_ADDRESS> on amd64 and i'm stuck, can anyone help me out please. tying to compile it from source as it recommends on their website but doesn't get past configure
[09:59] <Ramunas> i have an old dell laptop and fn button works fine
[09:59] <gnomefreak> Phoul: reporting a bug on gimmie in launchpad wont do much good i would look on the site you got it from and see if they have a bug report area
[09:59] <jrattner1> a
[09:59] <Phoul> i dont think its a gimmie bug tho
[10:00] <Phoul> Since gimmie did work for me on other OS's
[10:00] <freebse> Ramunas: I got a Tghinkpad and all extra buttons don't work at all... without special drivers... but I am not really sure if this is a button that the OS configures or the BIOS
[10:00] <gnomefreak> Phoul: what is "the bug"
[10:00] <Phoul> Its not really a bug but here
[10:00] <Jowi> gnomefreak: gimme need libXrender.la which seems to be missing from libxrender-dev package (intentional or not, i can not say)
[10:01] <gnomefreak> on dapper?
[10:01] <Phoul> /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libXrender.la: No such file or directory
[10:01] <Phoul> libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libXrender.la' is not a valid libtool archive
[10:01] <Jowi> Phoul: dapper or breezy?
[10:01] <Phoul> dapper
[10:02] <gnomefreak> ok let me look into this give me a few mins
[10:02] <Phoul> gnomefreak, can you pm me when your done? Im also looking so im not paying a ton of attention
[10:02] <gnomefreak> Phoul: i will if i find anything
[10:04] <ubuntu> hallo
[10:05] <sloucher> i locked myself out of sudo. I ran something like usermod -G fuse user, and now i'm only in the fuse group. How acan I get back to being sudo
[10:05] <gnomefreak> Phoul: Jowi what arch?
[10:05] <Phoul> umm
[10:05] <Phoul> i686?
[10:06] <Phoul> i guess... i386
[10:06] <brainsik> sloucher: hmmm.. bad situation
[10:06] <SlyFly> Is there anyone here who can help me with multimedia support?  This is not about restricted formats.
[10:06] <sloucher> lol thanks brainsik
[10:06] <Phoul> x86
[10:06] <brainsik> sloucher: you might need to boot via rescue mode and edit the groups file by hand
[10:06] <SimzI> How do I install a GDM screen!?
[10:06] <mingo> hi
[10:06] <sloucher> yeah, sounds good
[10:06] <kbrooks> SlyFly: ask
[10:06] <whiter> anyone know why mpd isnt working
[10:06] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:07] <mingo> how can I open a .deb archive ?
[10:07] <whiter> it just stopped working, i tried two differnet clients on it but it i snt working
[10:07] <Phoul> whiter, what clients?
[10:07] <thenuke> I wonder what I should install or reinstall to get these flash-videos working :o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxkr4wS7XqY
[10:07] <brainsik> sloucher: its /etc/group (in case you don't know)
[10:07] <Phoul> And have you configured mpd correctly?
[10:07] <whiter> ncmpc, and glurp Phoul
[10:07] <SlyFly> kbrooks, Totem won't display videos properly...it seems to be playing the videos, but it won't actually display them...I have to move around the window for me to see different scenes, but videos aren't "flowing properly."
[10:07] <thenuke> they did work before, but then I apparently messed something up :)
[10:07] <zenit> mingo: dpkg -x <archive>, I guess.
[10:07] <gnomefreak> Phoul: when installing its looking for that lib?
[10:07] <mingo> in the console ?
[10:07] <Phoul> when compiling
[10:08] <gnomefreak> ah
[10:08] <gnomefreak> figues
[10:08] <gnomefreak> figures
[10:08] <zedo> hi
[10:08] <SlyFly> Why can't Totem just have the videos appear in the way they're supposed to appear...from the first second to the last.  All I see is a dark screen.
[10:08] <whiter> and when i try to connect it says unable to, timed out but when i "netstat" i can see mpd running correctly
[10:08] <whiter> as well as ps -A, that works too the clients just cant seem to connect to it anymore
[10:08] <SlyFly> When playing videos with Totem, I get a dark screen...why?
[10:09] <jamie_> hi
[10:09] <jamie_> i need help to mount another drive i have installed in my pc
[10:09] <SlyFly> I am trying to get Totem to play videos, but it only shows a dark screen.
[10:09] <whiter> jamie what file system is it
[10:09] <SlyFly> I have all restricted formats installed.  Totem still won't display videos correctly.
[10:09] <jamie_> i think its ext3
[10:09] <kalosaurusrex> anyone have any experience with laptop heat problems?
[10:09] <jamie_> it was an old ubuntu install
[10:10] <mingo> zenith : it doesn't work...
[10:10] <jamie_> which has VERY important data on it
[10:10] <whiter> jamie, do this: fdisk -l
[10:10] <whiter> do it as root, find out the hard drive path
[10:10] <SlyFly> Why does Totem show a dark screen instead of playing a video as it should?
[10:10] <whiter> like /dev/hdb1 or whatever, then go "mkdir /mnt/hdb1" and then "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1"
[10:10] <jamie_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:10] <jamie_> /dev/sda1   *           1       23564   189277798+  83  Linux
[10:10] <jamie_> /dev/sda2           23565       24321     6080602+   5  Extended
[10:10] <jamie_> /dev/sda5           23565       24321     6080571   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[10:10] <whiter> and change it up according to the name of your hard drive
[10:11] <gnomefreak> Phoul: all i found was usr/lib/libXrender.a  without the "l" im wondering if it changed names in dapper if i get a min i will see if i can grab the lib
[10:11] <gnomefreak> jamie_: dont paste
[10:11] <jamie_> thats the drive i need to mount
[10:11] <jamie_> sorry :(
[10:11] <judah> !paste
[10:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:11] <jamie_> how would i mount sda1
[10:12] <whiter> "mount /dev/sda1 /path/to/mount"
[10:12] <Jowi> kalosaurusrex: well, not sure if it is related to your problem but I just cleaned a ton of dust from my wifes laptop cpu fan. blocked ventilation cause a lot of heat problems.
[10:12] <whiter> i would mount it in /mnt/sda1
[10:12] <richiefrich> !mp3
[10:12] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:12] <Phoul> is there a list of compatible mp3 players anywhere?
[10:12] <kaot> reminds me -- do ipods read .ogg?
[10:13] <jadacyrus> i just installed Skype, everything works except the audo input from my microphone. I have microphone volume turned all the way up in my mixer. And in the options the only devices it will let me use are /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1 , what are these?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> Phoul: there was never a lib called libxrender.la in ubuntu (not sure if you can get it from debain or not off hand but i know someone that installed it but hes not online atm
[10:13] <Dial_tone> which version of gcc should I install for dapper?
[10:13] <jonah1980> hi trying to install scribus <IP_ADDRESS> on amd64 and i'm stuck, can anyone help me out please. tying to compile it from source as it recommends on their website but doesn't get past configure command
[10:13] <gnomefreak> Dial_tone: build-essential
[10:13] <gnomefreak> Dial_tone: it comes with gcc4.0
[10:13] <Phoul> gnomefreak, so how would i go about installing gimmie then w
[10:13] <Dial_tone> thank you
[10:13] <jamie_> im getting a mount point does not exist error
[10:14] <Dial_tone> and does it exist?
[10:14] <gnomefreak> Phoul: off hand i dont know i have soemthing building as we speak but im betting on another 4 hours :(
[10:14] <K^Holtz> i want to install vlc, could i get away with just typing sudo apt-get install vlc .. or do i have to install any of those variations i saw when i did and apt-cache search?
[10:14] <jamie_> i made the folder but it made no diff
[10:14] <gnomefreak> Dial_tone: yes build-essential is a package on the cd
[10:14] <Phoul> gnomefreak, do you have msn/aim/yahoo?
[10:14] <gnomefreak> aim
[10:14] <Phoul> can i add you?
[10:14] <Dial_tone> no, i meant does his mount point exist
[10:14] <Jowi> K^Holtz: give it a go :)
[10:15] <jadacyrus> i just installed Skype, everything works except the audo input from my microphone. I have microphone volume turned all the way up in my mixer. And in the options the only devices it will let me use are /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1 , what are these?
[10:15] <richiefrich> !mplayer
[10:15] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs
[10:15] <gnomefreak> Phoul: i dont ever use it
[10:15] <jamie_> AHA, got it workin
[10:15] <Phoul> gah
[10:15] <LjL> K^Holtz: it won't hurt to try, and anyway in this case, it will work.
[10:15] <K^Holtz> !vlc
[10:15] <richiefrich> !codecs
[10:15] <ubotu> Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs
[10:15] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:15] <Jemt> jadacyrus: Please don't repeat your self. If someone is able to answer, you will recieve help.
[10:15] <jadacyrus> Jemt: K sorry
[10:15] <Jemt> jadacyrus: No problem :)
[10:15] <peteretief> hey all.whats after dapper
[10:15] <LjL> !edgy
[10:15] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:15] <gnomefreak> peteretief: edgy eft
[10:16] <Phoul> okay, does anyone know where i can find a list of comatible mp3 players that will work with linux?
[10:16] <richiefrich> what repo is mplayer in please
[10:16] <Lobster> gnomefiles.org
[10:16] <jamie_> oh anyone know any download managers cos i had a 3.2 gb half downloaded and it died :|
[10:16] <LjL> those that simply behave as a USB key will work
[10:16] <gnomefreak> richiefrich: multiverse
[10:16] <jamie_> im using kbuntu
[10:16] <richiefrich> gnomefreak ty
[10:16] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:17] <Paradoxx> need some volunteers to test a chatroom
[10:17] <peteretief> gnomefreak, can i upgrade now?
[10:17] <Jowi> jadacyrus: please don't get offended, because this is an obvious one: You plugged in the mic to the mic or line-in?
[10:17] <gnomefreak> Paradoxx: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:17] <LjL> jamie_: kget
[10:17] <jadacyrus> Jowi: yep
[10:17] <gnomefreak> peteretief: no
[10:17] <jrib> jamie_: wget, gwget, d4x
[10:17] <peteretief> OK
[10:17] <gnomefreak> peteretief: there isnt even an iso for it
[10:17] <gnomefreak> peteretief: they just started on it
[10:17] <Barkley> !schedule
[10:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more.   Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[10:21] <A|ex> !postfix
[10:21] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[10:21] <phibxr> jamie_, don't touch it and send it off to a data restorage company?
[10:21] <kaot> exim!  exim!
[10:21] <jamie_> do u have any idea how much that would cost
[10:21] <jamie_> i actualy feel like crying
[10:21] <kbrooks> jamie_: they DO have to charge that much, dont they?
[10:22] <brainsik> anyone know what the difference between the -server kernels and the regular kernels are?
[10:22] <peteretief> there are recovery roms around
[10:22] <jamie_> im so not paying 200 euro to get back tax books and reciepts
[10:22] <Bladedge> ! .img
[10:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about .img
[10:22] <jamie_> plus ever episode of lost was on there lol
[10:22] <brainsik> !linux-image-server
[10:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about linux-image-server
[10:22] <brainsik> !server kernel
[10:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about server kernel
[10:23] <richiefrich> gnomefreak  it's not in that one unless i checked the wrong one :(
[10:23] <wahjava> hi channel
[10:23] <juztin> hi wahjava
[10:23] <gnomefreak> brainsik: stop playing with the bot and ask a question
[10:23] <kbrooks> brainsik: stop it
[10:23] <wahjava> juztin, hi
[10:23] <brainsik> gnomefreak: i did
[10:23] <gnomefreak> brainsik: what was it
[10:23] <jamie_> who made the bot? i like it :P
[10:23] <gnomefreak> richiefrich: what are you looking for again?
[10:23] <richiefrich> mplayer
[10:23] <grenegar> wahjava: hi
[10:23] <Dr1ft3d> can apt compile stuff for you?
[10:23] <jamie_> how do u build a bot like that?
[10:23] <brainsik> gnomefreak: what is the difference between the server kernels and the regular kernels?
[10:23] <wahjava> how do I install kubuntu dapper on ubuntu dapper from kubuntu CDs
[10:23] <wahjava> grenegar, hi :)
[10:23] <gnomefreak> richiefrich: its in multiverse not backports
[10:23] <gnomefreak> !mplayer > richiefrich
[10:24] <jamie_> ahh im going to cry, ive lost my websites 2
[10:24] <wahjava> I mean kubuntu install (+ live) cd
[10:24] <gnomefreak> brainsik: ones built for server as for what exactly i dont know other than different modules
[10:24] <jme> are you sure they are separate kernels, brainsik?
[10:24] <bane> can anyone help me with wireless setup?
[10:24] <brainsik> jme: yes
[10:24] <gnomefreak> jme: yes dapper seperated them
[10:24] <kaot> bane: what kind of wireless card?
[10:24] <jme> oh, interesting
[10:24] <wahjava> I want to avoid downloading kubuntu stuff from internet
[10:24] <grenegar> wahjava: you could install 'kubuntu-desktop' from synaptic
[10:24] <peteretief> bane, whats the matter
[10:25] <wahjava> grenegar, but that would download kubuntu from internet not from CD
[10:25] <brainsik> gnomefreak: i'm trying to find specifics, but having trouble... i realize i can compare .config files, but i'm trying to avoid that arduous task
[10:25] <jme> yeah, you'll want to add the CD to your repository list, wahjava
[10:25] <A|ex> uhm all english here...
[10:25] <cougem> yeh stick grubs in it
[10:25] <grenegar> wahjava: ya true. if you set sources.list to have cd-rom entry first then it will get it from there instead
[10:25] <technel> How do I get xterm to allow 256 colors?
[10:26] <jme> use the same format the regular Ubuntu CD is in on sources.list
[10:26] <wahjava> jme, I tried that but it didn't work either though CD is added successfully to the list
[10:26] <gnomefreak> brainsik: join #ubuntu-kernel see if they are not busy and ask them
[10:26] <brainsik> gnomefreak: cool, thanks
[10:26] <jme> ah, sorry to hear
[10:26] <wildman> A|ex: which lang do you need? usually, #ubuntu-LL, where LL is the 2 letter code for your lang works...
[10:26] <kbrooks> brainsik: diff is not an arduous task
[10:26] <brainsik> kbrooks: have you ever diffed .config files? not fund
[10:26] <brainsik> fun
[10:26] <A|ex> uhm i try #ubuntu-IT
[10:26] <wildman> A|ex: -it, ;)
[10:26] <Jowi> wahjava: you need to update/reload as well ("sudo apt-get update" or reload in synaptic)
[10:27] <wildman> A|ex: no capital letters on channel names ;)
[10:27] <kbrooks> brainsik: i said "diff". the command
[10:27] <A|ex> thanks :DDD i'm fighting with postfix :D
[10:27] <A|ex> sorry wildman T.T
[10:27] <wildman> A|ex: no pb. good luck.
[10:27] <kbrooks> A|ex: no need to apologise
[10:27] <A|ex> thanks :D
[10:27] <wahjava> Jowi, i did that
[10:27] <cougem> HEY LOUSEYS
[10:28] <wahjava> :( oops, it is downloading from internet
[10:29] <wahjava> BtW, there are only very few .deb on CD
[10:29] <kbrooks> wahjava: false
[10:29] <wahjava> 22 .deb
[10:29] <peteretief> can i run kubuntu and dapper together - ?
[10:29] <wahjava> kbrooks; why false ?
[10:29] <bane> how do i reply to pm's?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> peteretief: kubuntu is dapper
[10:29] <kbrooks> wahjava: What CD
[10:29] <Emilis> my gnome session is occasionally being thrown back to login window, and when I put in my login and password, it starts my gnome session anew, losing all my active stuff; what's going on?
[10:30] <atlantian> hello can someone please help me getting a remote desktop connection working, i have tried so much, freenx just gives killed by signal 15, realvnc enterprise says aborted after typing vncserver or anything, please can someone help me get this to work
[10:30] <atlantian> Thanks
[10:30] <Chousuke> peteretief: kubuntu and ubuntu are basically the same thing. :)
[10:30] <gnomefreak> bane: type in the pm box
[10:30] <K^Holtz> !mp3
[10:30] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:30] <peteretief> oh
[10:30] <wahjava> kbrooks: I'm using install CD that shipit ships
[10:30] <Chousuke> peteretief: the defaults are just different.
[10:30] <technel> Is there a way to get 256 colors in gnome-terminal?
[10:30] <kbrooks> !common
[10:30] <bane> lmao what pm box?
[10:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about common
[10:30] <peteretief> ah i see
[10:30] <Chousuke> peteretief: you can install kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu and get the whole KDE thing.
[10:31] <gnomefreak> bane: join #ubuntu-offtopic for this
[10:31] <wildman> bane: usually a 2nd tab is open with the 'pm box', on which u can click, then type as usual
[10:31] <peteretief> i see gnome is the default
[10:31] <wildman> peteretief: if "unbuntu" yes
[10:31] <wildman> peteretief: if "kubuntuE, then kde is, if "xubuntu", then xfce is
[10:32] <alteroo> can anyone help us test a plonechat system?
[10:32] <ditto132y> room
[10:32] <kbrooks> wildman: "ubuntu", not "unbuntu"
[10:32] <wildman> peteretief: starting with dapper, change the bla-desktop from ubunutu, kubuntu, xubuntu, to get an of the other desktops
[10:32] <cntb> the birds on openoffice.org are ubuntu color too
[10:32] <wildman> kbrooks: oops, typo, sorry :)
[10:32] <ditto132y> hi room
[10:32] <wildman> get an -> get anY
[10:32] <Emilis>  /var/log/messages shows gconfd (user-12497): Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly   --- this is happening spotaneously
[10:32] <peteretief> so its just a desktop thing
[10:32] <wildman> damn, still sleepy here :)
[10:33] <peteretief> so fluxbox
[10:33] <wildman> peteretief: basically, yes it is.
[10:33] <wahjava> kbrooks: how do i install ??
[10:33] <peteretief> thanks all
[10:33] <atlantian> hello can someone please help me getting a remote desktop connection working, i have tried so much, freenx just gives killed by signal 15, realvnc enterprise says aborted after typing vncserver or anything, please can someone help me get this to work
[10:33] <atlantian> Thanks
[10:33] <wildman> peteretief: welcomed
[10:34] <peteretief> :)
[10:34] <jamie_> how do i enable universe source
[10:34] <wildman> jamie_: from synaptic, edit media
[10:34] <ozzloy> test
[10:34] <jamie_> !universe
[10:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:34] <cntb> atlantian:
[10:34] <wildman> damn, I'm still not used to this ! thing :)
[10:34] <bane> !wireless
[10:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:34] <wahjava> atlantian: on what version of Ubuntu are you, have u tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[10:35] <top222> Are there 2.6.16 backports yet anywhere?
[10:35] <cntb> a german guy tried this against my desktop and in 5 min moved my mouse
[10:35] <peteretief> bane, what with the wifi
[10:35] <cntb> atlantian: ?
[10:35] <atlantian> 6.06 wahjava
[10:36] <cntb> any bg guys here?
[10:36] <atlantian> wahjava i have not tired that let me look at it thanks
[10:36] <jamie_> how do i make an irc bot like the one here
[10:37] <wahjava> atlantian: whenever you have problem in Ubuntu, check wiki.ubuntu.com first
[10:37] <cntb> atlantian: system->preferences-> remote desktop
[10:37] <masterofallarts> Hi
[10:37] <hcjc92> is there any reason that i can't seem to find mod_rewrite with my apache installation....
[10:37] <atlantian> cntb i have tried that before though, never worked
[10:37] <atlantian> will try again
[10:37] <wahjava> jamie_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC_bot
[10:37] <masterofallarts> I need some help with 3d Acceleration
[10:38] <masterofallarts> cant get it started
[10:38] <masterofallarts> I have an ATI 9000
[10:38] <atlantian> wahjava is there anyway to stop the user form having to grant access
[10:38] <masterofallarts> I followed the wiki
[10:38] <kitsuneofdoom> masterofallarts: what computer type do you have?
[10:38] <wildman> !ati
[10:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:38] <atlantian> just untick ask for confirmation?
[10:38] <wildman> masterofallarts: check above URL meanwhile
[10:38] <wahjava> atlantian: from *Remote Desktop* in *Preferences*
[10:38] <atlantian> simple as that wahjava?
[10:39] <masterofallarts> a laptop?
[10:39] <masterofallarts> on dapper.
[10:39] <peteretief> !wahjava
[10:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about wahjava
[10:39] <greddy> i get weird corruption over some buttons in the OS what does that mean?
[10:39] <Dr1ft3d> dapper=brave in afrikaans
[10:39] <hid3> Hello everyone. is there any way/tool to reset /proc/interrupts, transmited bytes/packets counters for a network device without rebooting the system?
[10:39] <silentread> what do u mean wierd corruption?
[10:39] <wahjava> !kubuntu
[10:39] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:40] <wahjava> oh that's a bot command cool
[10:40] <wildman> wahjava: which just rocks :)
[10:40] <wahjava> wildman: yup
[10:41] <masterofallarts> wildman: does this mean that fglrx doesnt support a 9000 card?
[10:41] <Eazy-> anyone knows of a sysinfo script that works?
[10:41] <Glimerrati> how can I run DVD..?
[10:41] <Eazy-> for xchat
[10:41] <Jowi> !dvd
[10:41] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:41] <wildman> masterofallarts: dunno about all hardware there is... sorry
[10:42] <wildman> masterofallarts: and always hade nVidia cards here, with binary nVidia drivers w/o pbs at all
[10:42] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[10:42] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:42] <peteretief> wow 1066 files to upgrade to dapper from breezy
[10:42] <kitsuneofdoom> Ok, I have a broadcom 54g a/b/g/bluetooth wifi card. Linux detects the card all right, and I have ndiswrapper around the bcmwl5 driver, only problem, I can't connect
[10:42] <wildman> masterofallarts: did you check http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ to see if your laptop is listed?
[10:43] <silentread> @kitsune did u modprobe?
[10:43] <POVaddct> masterofallarts: the radeon 9000 is supported without needing the flgrx driver. at least the mobile version is.
[10:43] <wildman> masterofallarts: there's always isntructions for lots of laptops there... and some can be used on any distro, even if the mini-howto for ur laptop is for another distro...
[10:43] <basschimp> hi guys
[10:43] <basschimp> i have a stupid question i think i already know the answer to. so feel free to mock for your own personal amusement
[10:43] <POVaddct> masterofallarts: i tested a dell latitude d600 with ati radeon 9000 with dapper and 3d runs out of the box
[10:44] <peteretief> i run an ati9000 as well
[10:44] <masterofallarts> hm...
[10:44] <bane> can anyone tell me why iwconfig tells me my access point is invalid?
[10:44] <basschimp> currently running ubuntu with gnome. to get the option of a KDE desktop, do i just install kubuntu? and do i have to go through the whole installation rigamarole again?
[10:45] <Jowi> masterofallarts: from the binary driver page: "If you own an ATI card that is not on this list, you already have accelerated 3D."
[10:45] <gnomefreak> basschimp: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:45] <peteretief> bane, have you tried iwconfig
[10:45] <basschimp> gnomefreak, ty
[10:45] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:45] <Jowi> masterofallarts: to check, in a terminal: glxinfo | grep direct
[10:45] <depi> hi, is there any good repo to install BONFIRE?
[10:45] <masterofallarts> but why does fglrx show me that mesa is doing the rendering?
[10:45] <basschimp> and i'll have the option to choose which desktop environment i want from the login splash screen, right?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> peteretief: he just said that was the command that he did
[10:46] <masterofallarts> Jowi: answer is direct rendering: no
[10:46] <gnomefreak> basschimp: on the login screen you can click sessions than choose what one you want to boot into
[10:46] <K^Holtz> i just installed w32codecs from synaptic, should all my audio and video play correctly now in vlc?
[10:46] <basschimp> gnomefreak, ty. again.
[10:46] <basschimp> off to experiment!
[10:46] <Jowi> masterofallarts: according to the help page, you should not use fglrx since 3d is already in the loaded driver for your card.
[10:46] <masterofallarts> XLib: extension xfree86-dri missing on display :0.0
[10:46] <gnomefreak> basschimp: have fun
[10:47] <peteretief> oh sorry i have got many wireless cards running so just want to know were he's at
[10:47] <juztin> how do i know if i'm using a 32 bit or 64 bit system?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> juztin: uname -r
[10:47] <gnomefreak> juztin: it should say at the end of it
[10:47] <masterofallarts> Jowi: i can try uninstalling the driver.
[10:47] <masterofallarts> As it isnt active anyway, i dont expect a change.
[10:47] <bane> yes i used iwconfig...thats how i get the "access point: invalid"
[10:47] <juztin> gnomefreak, it doesn't...it just says 2.6.15-25-server
[10:47] <wildman> juztin: euh... nice question :) do you have /lib64 for example?
[10:48] <juztin> wildman, where would that be located?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> juztin: try uname -a
[10:48] <wildman> juztin: I've just given u the full path :)
[10:48] <SimzI> What's the commadn to remove xmms ????????
[10:48] <SimzI> command*
[10:48] <gnomefreak> SimzI: sudo apt-get remove xmms
[10:48] <kitsuneofdoom> sudo apt-get remove xmms
[10:48] <SimzI> ty
[10:48] <juztin> gnomefreak, it says Linux ubuntujuztin 2.6.15-25-server #1 SMP Wed Jun 14 11:52:05 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:48] <gnomefreak> juztin: i686
[10:48] <wildman> then, u r not juztin
[10:49] <gnomefreak> thats 32 bit
[10:49] <wildman> juztin: FYI: Linux linuxbox64 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:28:03 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:49] <juztin> ok thanks gnomefreak, wildman :D
[10:49] <gnomefreak> yw juztin
[10:49] <wildman> juztin: see amd64?
[10:49] <juztin> wildman, yup...gotcha, thanks for the infos :)
[10:49] <wildman> juztin: yw
[10:50] <kitsuneofdoom> silentread: sorry, I don't have x-chat set to highlight 'kitsune' yet
[10:51] <peteretief> bane, do you have a valid ap - does your wireless card work at all - isit an etheros chipset
[10:51] <peteretief> do you see ath0 with ifconfig
[10:51] <jamie_> i have a weird bug here
[10:52] <bane> sec and ill tell you what i see
[10:52] <lmml> anyone tell me where I can find working instructions on how to get the fglrx drivers working?
[10:52] <K^Holtz> why is synaptec stuck at Setting up w32codecs for about 5 minutes now?
[10:52] <greddy> anyone help me out? i'm getting weird corruption of the graphics on buttons for some reason?
[10:52] <masterofallarts> ok, im trying to use driver radeon now. restarting X...
[10:52] <kitsuneofdoom> !ati
[10:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:52] <jamie_> synamtic says i have firefox installed but i cant find it in the kde menu
[10:52] <KevinCLovesU> try edit menu
[10:52] <lmml> ubotu: tried them.. 3 times, keep saying mesa drivers are loaded
[10:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about tried them.. 3 times, keep saying mesa drivers are loaded
[10:52] <KevinCLovesU> or just type firefox in terminal
[10:52] <KevinCLovesU> or "Konsole"
[10:52] <KevinCLovesU> im not a big K user
[10:53] <bane> i see "lo" in ifconfig peter
[10:53] <lmml> oops.. talking to the bot.. :)
[10:53] <jamie_> synamtic says i have firefox installed but i cant find it in the kde menu
[10:53] <masterofallarts> hi again....
[10:53] <KevinCLovesU> jamie, try typing "firefox" in the konsole
[10:54] <KevinCLovesU> to see if it will launch
[10:54] <masterofallarts> i still have direct rendering: no
[10:54] <kitsuneofdoom> Ok, I have a broadcom 54g a/b/g/bluetooth wifi card. Linux detects the card all right, and I have ndiswrapper around the bcmwl5 driver, only problem, I can't connect. lsmod shows ndiswrapper as running.
[10:54] <masterofallarts> though using driver radeon now.
[10:54] <KevinCLovesU> did you install the drivers?
[10:54] <peteretief> bane, dont think ur card is detected
[10:55] <bane> it says its there...tells me exactly what kind of card it is and everything
[10:55] <peteretief> u may need ndiswrapper
[10:55] <CarlFK> kitsuneofdoom: dmesg - see if the driver assigned it a /dev/
[10:55] <bane> thats gonna suck huh?
[10:55] <KevinCLovesU> ndiswrapper's not hard
[10:56] <kitsuneofdoom> the last few messages say:
[10:56] <KevinCLovesU> just a couple commands
[10:56] <NeedHelp> help! my sound device isn't being recogniced
[10:56] <wildman> !sound > NeedHelp
[10:56] <kitsuneofdoom> bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not availiable or load failed
[10:57] <KevinCLovesU> kits, have you downloaded he necessary drivers? if so, where?
[10:57] <peteretief> bane, that doesnt mean its loaded modules to make it work :)
[10:57] <NeedHelp> I just get 'Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture''
[10:57] <amonkey> what city on the time zone selector is in cst in usa? it seems that there are no options for my timezone
[10:57] <kitsuneofdoom> KevinCLovesU: Using ndiswrapper
[10:58] <bane> ahhh i see
[10:58] <KevinCLovesU> you need to "wrap" the drivers with ndiswrapper
[10:58] <KevinCLovesU> ndis does not magically make cards work
[10:58] <NeedHelp> Before login, I hear the reassuring drum roll noise then after login it doesn't seem to think my sound card exists
[10:58] <KevinCLovesU> have you installed the drivers through ndis yet?
[10:58] <kitsuneofdoom> I wrapped the bcmwl5 driver
[10:58] <Redrose> how do i compile the kernel, and if you know, with toshiba support?
[10:58] <orgon23> hello anybody
[10:58] <ompaul> kitsuneofdoom, there is this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[10:59] <wildman> amonkey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Standard_Time_Zone
[10:59] <NeedHelp> can anyone help me?
[10:59] <erUSUL> !linux
[10:59] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[10:59] <kitsuneofdoom> ompaul: thankee muchly
[10:59] <erUSUL> !kernel
[10:59] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:59] <wildman> amonkey: there are some US cities listed there, if not you can set UTC-5 (as per the wiki page)
[10:59] <ompaul> kitsuneofdoom, enjoy
[10:59] <Redrose> !toshiba
[10:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about toshiba
[10:59] <erUSUL> !kernel > Redrose
[10:59] <NeedHelp> hmmm
[10:59] <IRCMonkeyx> globespan based usb modem anyone knows it???
[10:59] <NeedHelp> BT Voyager?
[11:00] <amonkey> wildman, why is there such a big blank part in the middle of the timezone map? conceivably some ubuntu users might live there and want to use that time zone instead of saying they live in mexico or something like that
[11:00] <Redrose> What is a linux header?
[11:00] <wildman> amonkey: I'm not an ubuntu developer, sorry ;)
[11:00] <Lobster> Gute Nacht
[11:00] <NeedHelp> Can anybody help me with my sound problem? I get 'Failed to create test pipeline for ....' on any sound driver
[11:00] <IRCMonkeyx> globespan based usb modem anyone knows it???
[11:01] <ompaul> !43xx
[11:01] <ubotu> Broadcom 43xx driver info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[11:01] <NeedHelp> before login I do hear the 'drumroll'
[11:01] <NeedHelp> Somebody?
[11:01] <wildman> NeedHelp: then sound works, the pb is elsewhere
[11:01] <peteretief> a linux header goes into the back of the net
[11:01] <robert123> new to this place
[11:01] <NeedHelp> Can anybody diagnose my problem?
[11:01] <Redrose> peteretief, ?
[11:01] <mabus> NeedHelp: what's the problem
[11:02] <NeedHelp> I don't get any sound, but before login i hear the drumroll
[11:02] <patrickj> I need a BBEdit replacement for Linux
[11:02] <erUSUL> IRCMonkeyx: google probably knows. i've done the work for you though http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download.php?lang=en
[11:02] <exiro> hi, can someone tell me how to enable hibernation?
[11:02] <wildman> !multimedia
[11:02] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[11:02] <Redrose> ii need to compile the kernel so it will have toshiba_acpi... but the page you gave me says to use a header, how do i do that?
[11:02] <mabus> NeedHelp: then you do get sound
[11:02] <bane> ok i have ndiswrapper in a .tar file on a usb drive, hoiw do i install it on my linux box?
[11:02] <NeedHelp> and when I change sound driver on Multimedia System Selector I get 'Failed to create test pipeline for...' on all
[11:03] <IRCMonkeyx> erusul: thanks but i know that site, my problem there is nothing to download for ubuntu, instead of ubuntu ,should i download suse's dirvers?
[11:03] <NeedHelp> anybody who can help me?
[11:03] <patrickj> bluefish it is XD
[11:03] <wildman> NeedHelp: I don't understand why u'd want to change sound driver when u do get the drums sound at login...
[11:03] <NeedHelp> But there is no sound in the main login
[11:03] <Raito> I installed a new bootsplash using usplash, but thing is, when I boot up, the whole screen is black while booting up, it eventually boots up but it doesn't show anything while that is happening. What might have I done wrong?
[11:03] <NeedHelp> I dont want to change the driver
[11:04] <wildman> NeedHelp: oh, didn't u said before that you do hear the drums?
[11:04] <erUSUL> Redrose: go to  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:04] <exiro> the hibernate button on the login screen doesn't work, how do I enable hibernation?
[11:04] <NeedHelp> I get the drumroll i mean, but when I am logged in.. . i dont appear to have a sound card/
[11:04] <wildman> [18:02]  <NeedHelp> I don't get any sound, but before login i hear the drumroll
[11:04] <PittNsciGuy> So I know it's a total newb question....but what's the easiest way to get xorg on my system?  I'm trying to get my ati 3d acceleration to work!
[11:04] <NeedHelp> sorry
[11:04] <NeedHelp> I dont get sound once logged in
[11:05] <IRCMonkeyx> erUSUL: thanks but i know that site, my problem there is nothing to download for ubuntu, instead of ubuntu ,should i download suse's dirvers?
[11:05] <NeedHelp> on volume control - 'No volume control elements and/or devices found'
[11:05] <erUSUL> exiro: hibernaton in linux is, as of today, a question of luck with your hardware configuration. no all systems can hibernait afaik
[11:05] <SimzI> Anybody know the URL to put into Rhythym Box to listen to Radio 1?
[11:05] <wildman> NeedHelp: sudo lsmod | grep snd, returns empty?
[11:05] <mabus> SimzI: cbc radio 1?
[11:05] <exiro> ohw
[11:05] <NeedHelp> wait
[11:05] <K^Holtz> Can someone please help me get DVDs working with VLC?
[11:05] <SimzI> It's an English FM radio
[11:06] <POVaddct> wildman: lsmod doesn't need sudo
[11:06] <kitsuneofdoom> ok, it's telling me I have to remove ndiswrapper, how?
[11:06] <NeedHelp> I get loads of stuff with sudo lsmod
[11:06] <wildman> POVaddct: oups, remains from Mandriva, where no user but root can lsmod ;)
[11:06] <patrickj> hmm
[11:06] <patrickj> whats a really good ftp program for linux?
[11:06] <NeedHelp> ?
[11:06] <SimzI> gftp
[11:06] <wildman> NeedHelp: put the "|grep snd" part?
[11:06] <exiro> at the first time, suspend didn't work too, but I have enabled it in the config. Is this also possible for hibernate or should it be enabled by default?
[11:06] <SimzI> sudo apt-get install gftp
[11:07] <patrickj> gftp, hmm
[11:07] <SimzI> or just use Terminal patrickj
[11:07] <POVaddct> wildman: i doubt that. i guess users didn't have /sbin in their PATH.
[11:07] <patrickj> anything similar to transmit for osx?
[11:07] <NeedHelp> grep snd does nothing but nothing
[11:07] <erUSUL> IRCMonkeyx: dl the debian version or the source code. you also need to patch and recompile the kernel
[11:07] <Kibou> lftp
[11:07] <SimzI> ftp ftp.host.com
[11:07] <wildman> POVaddct: which translates to the same ;)
[11:07] <POVaddct> wildman: /sbin/lsmod would do on mandrive as well
[11:07] <patrickj> SimzI: for terminal ftp I use ncftp
[11:07] <CodySt> Hello all
[11:07] <wildman> POVaddct: and indeed they don't, yes. it does. like /sbin/ifconfig...
[11:07] <POVaddct> wildman: without being root
[11:07] <erUSUL> !sound > NeedHelp
[11:07] <NeedHelp> Can anyone help?
[11:07] <wildman> POVaddct: yep, u r right
[11:07] <NeedHelp> erUSL thats no help
[11:07] <wildman> erUSUL: I've tried that already, no help
[11:08] <NeedHelp> yeah
[11:08] <wildman> NeedHelp: so the "lsmod | grep snd" returns something, and not empty?
[11:08] <NeedHelp> I have to go soon I really need to get this fixed
[11:08] <CodySt> How can I find out if there are linux drivers for the built in wireless card for my laptop?
[11:08] <NeedHelp> sudo lsmod returns loads
[11:08] <IRCMonkeyx> erusul: thanx , let me try, this is my first experienment in linux, recompiling kernel it sounds scary:)
[11:08] <wildman> NeedHelp: cuz if it does, sound drivers should be loaded fine, and all shuold be working :-|
[11:08] <peteretief> NeedHelp, was it soundcard
[11:08] <NeedHelp> grep snd returns nothing
[11:08] <erUSUL> NeedHelp: what apps are not working (you said you hear the drums so is not a driver problem)?
[11:08] <peteretief> prob
[11:09] <NeedHelp> Before login, I get the drumrolls, after login I get no sound as if there is no sound card
[11:09] <erUSUL> wifi > CodySt
[11:09] <NeedHelp> ill get a screenshot
[11:09] <erUSUL> NeedHelp: try aplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav in a terminal
[11:09] <wildman> I always heard the african drumrolls _after_ login...
[11:09] <CodySt> What do you mean "wifi"?
[11:10] <CodySt> Where would I find drivers for the card
[11:10] <NeedHelp> ALSA lib confmisc.c:560:(snd_determine_driver) could not open control for card 0ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: Permission denied
[11:10] <erUSUL> !wifi
[11:10] <NeedHelp> ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
[11:10] <NeedHelp> ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: Permission denied
[11:10] <NeedHelp> ALSA lib confmisc.c:955:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
[11:10] <NeedHelp> ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: Permission denied
[11:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:10] <NeedHelp> ALSA lib conf.c:3948:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: Permission denied
[11:10] <NeedHelp> ALSA lib pcm.c:2090:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
[11:10] <NeedHelp> aplay: main:533: audio open error: Permission denied
[11:10] <MTecknology> How can I find the bitrate of an MP3 file?
[11:10] <erUSUL> NeedHelp: do not paste here please. use a pastebin
[11:10] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[11:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:10] <ompaul> NeedHelp, DONT PASTE in here thanks, please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:10] <NeedHelp> sorry
[11:10] <rockzman> where  do i download yacc package?
[11:10] <erUSUL> NeedHelp: are you on the audio group??
[11:10] <wildman> MTecknology: 'file the_file.mp3' ?
[11:11] <NeedHelp> waitt ill check
[11:11] <Inazad> Where I can find a little chronometer (a program..)
[11:11] <peteretief> but you do get noticed if you flood the channel
[11:11] <jrib> MTecknology: or right click > properties > audio tab (wrong window before in offtopic)
[11:11] <Dial_tone> MTecknology, file *.mp3
[11:11] <Anony> Since my sound card is barely supported, I want to use the old oss driver, or the old oss soundblaster driver. Can someone help me with this?
[11:11] <NeedHelp> no i wasnt ! i've beenm unticked from everything
[11:11] <J0s3ph> hello. i was wondering if its possible to have ubuntu's remote desktop/vnc abilities working at the log on screen.
[11:12] <erUSUL> NeedHelp: Go to System>Admin>Users&Groups . preferences/properties for your user> last tab
[11:12] <NeedHelp> I know
[11:12] <dmb> when configuring a wireless card with the gnome-networking tools, where does it store the stuff like essid and wep key?
[11:12] <NeedHelp> I had nothing but 'Execute Admin Tasks'
[11:12] <NeedHelp> why the hell did that happen
[11:12] <MTecknology> wildman, jrib, Dial_tone; that doesn't tell me the bitrate
[11:12] <K^Holtz> Can someone please help me get DVDs working with VLC?
[11:12] <NeedHelp> i have to go cya
[11:12] <wildman> !multimedia > K^Holtz
[11:12] <jrib> MTecknology: right click > properties > audio tab does here
[11:13] <dmb> when configuring a wireless card with the gnome-networking tools, where does it store the stuff like essid and wep key?
[11:13] <K^Holtz> wildman: url not found
[11:13] <MTecknology> jrib, there is no audio tab
[11:13] <erUSUL> dmb: /etc/network/interfaces afaik
[11:13] <dmb> oh
[11:14] <jrib> MTecknology: strange, you are using nautilus in GNOME?  'mplayer -identify /path/to/file.mp3' works too
[11:14] <wildman> K^Holtz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications opens here w/o pbs...
[11:15] <HackerX2> Hey
[11:15] <HackerX2> That was not cool
[11:15] <sponix> any wine users in here ?
[11:15] <MTecknology> jrib, thanks
[11:15] <erUSUL> sponix: only to run utorrent
[11:15] <tuxtux> help please, for xine, klear with skystar2 video is ok, but no device audio
[11:15] <sponix> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[11:15] <sponix> fixme:jack:JACK_drvLoad error loading the jack library libjack.so, please install this library to use jack
[11:15] <sponix> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[11:15] <sponix> anyone seen that before ?
[11:15] <Dial_tone> MTecknology, yes it does
[11:16] <Dial_tone> it will say 128kbits or 192 or 256 or whatever
[11:16] <FlimFlamMan> i build and installed squid from source debs (i needed ssl support) - now the software updater is offering to install a new version of squid.  is it trying to overwrite my packages with prebuilt ones that don't support ssl?
[11:16] <Czar``> What is the konsole command to upgrade to dapper?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> sponix: use pastebin please
[11:16] <jrib> !upgrade > Czar``
[11:16] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[11:16] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[11:16] <NeedHelp> hi
[11:16] <NeedHelp> ANother problem...
[11:16] <patrickj> upgrading owns :P
[11:17] <erUSUL> sponix: only to run torrent
[11:17] <giganti1> can somebody explain me the usage of root in ubuntu?
[11:17] <MTecknology> Dial_tone, can I pm you the result of when I do file *.mp3
[11:17] <NeedHelp> root = admin
[11:17] <patrickj> konsole... lol
[11:17] <gnomefreak> !root > giganti1
[11:17] <jnneems> Hope someone can help with this... Ive been searching like crazy for an answer... I have a USB CD-ROM drive and cant boot ubuntu because of it, anyone think they can help?
[11:17] <Czar``> jrib: thanks
[11:17] <erUSUL> giganti1: ubuntulog does not have root account
[11:17] <Czar``> gnomefreak: and thanks :)
[11:17] <erUSUL> !root
[11:17] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:17] <KenSentMe> !cedega
[11:17] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[11:17] <erUSUL> !sudo
[11:17] <giganti1> ow, thx a lot!!
[11:17] <tuxtux> help please, for xine, klear with skystar2 video is ok, but no device audio
[11:17] <Dial_tone> i don't care
[11:17] <NeedHelp> the default user is 'root' or 'god' and any user can be set to perform admin tasks
[11:17] <peteretief> you can create a root user if you want
[11:17] <HackerX2> What is the terminal command for a wifi scan?
[11:18] <Anony> Is there a failsafe sound driver I can use?
[11:18] <MTecknology> Creed - One Last Breath.mp3: MP3 file with ID3 version 2.4.0 tag
[11:18] <MTecknology> michael@madhemlap:~/Music$
[11:18] <jnneems> Hope someone can help with this... Ive been searching like crazy for an answer... I have a USB CD-ROM drive and cant boot ubuntu because of it, anyone think they can help?
[11:18] <jme> jnneems: is the CD drive USB-powered?
[11:18] <MTecknology> sorry
[11:18] <jnneems> yes
[11:18] <KenSentMe> peteretief: the root user is already there, but it has a password that you don't know
[11:18] <jme> well, it might not be bootable, sorry
[11:18] <jnneems> it also has a adapter though
[11:18] <jnneems> for power
[11:18] <jme> try using it with the power adapter
[11:18] <NeedHelp> Help! I have a DVD drive that I removed because it stopped working, so I replaced it with a different CD drive, the old CD drive still appears in 'Computer' and the new one doesn't seem to exist
[11:18] <NeedHelp> old DVD drive*
[11:18] <MTecknology> Dial_tone, I guess i split it a little between the pm and this window
[11:18] <Anony> NeedHelp, mayble you hooked it up wrong
[11:19] <NeedHelp> no
[11:19] <Anony> NeedHelpCan you mount it manually?
[11:19] <jnneems> u think it will work, from reading up it looks like i need to edit stuff in the registry and stuff
[11:19] <NeedHelp> How
[11:19] <NeedHelp> How do I mount it manually
[11:19] <wildman> NeedHelp: sudo mount device_name mount_point
[11:19] <peteretief> KenSentMe, i created a root user so i could su -
[11:19] <gnomefreak> NeedHelp: is it master or slave?
[11:20] <crashzor> Anony, maby trying to unmount it wil help ;)
[11:20] <NeedHelp> How do I know the device name and mount point?
[11:20] <NeedHelp> I have 2 drives the other works fine
[11:20] <gnomefreak> NeedHelp: did you set the jumper to master or slave?
[11:20] <tuxtux> reboot
[11:20] <NeedHelp> it's Master
[11:20] <erUSUL> NeedHelp: dmesg | grep hd to see if your new driv is detected and which device it is assigned
[11:20] <gnomefreak> NeedHelp: what is the other one set to?
[11:20] <NeedHelp> Slave
[11:21] <Anony> NeedHelp mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom<A number here?> /media/cdrom0
[11:21] <NeedHelp> brb
[11:21] <Anony> To find out what number you put there, ls /dev/ | grep cdrom
[11:21] <bubblenut> where can I find the ubuntu live download?
[11:22] <Anony> bubblenut, the internet is a great place to start looking
[11:22] <gnomefreak> bubblenut: for installing?
[11:22] <silentread> bubblenet, check the alternative install disk
[11:22] <gnomefreak> bubblenut: if installing it might be a good idea and time saver to use the laternative cd instead of live
[11:22] <gnomefreak> s/laternative/alternative
[11:23] <bubblenut> No, I need it as a recovery for a windows machine
[11:23] <Anony> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[11:23] <bubblenut> I have searched for it but I can't seem to find it
[11:23] <gnomefreak> !desktop
[11:23] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[11:23] <gnomefreak> grrrrr
[11:23] <Anony> icewm yay
[11:23] <KenSentMe> bubblenut: the desktop cd is also a live cd
[11:23] <gnomefreak> bubblenut: try ubuntu.com
[11:23] <jnneems> is there any alternative way besides the cd to install this os?
[11:23] <jnneems> since i cant boot a cd?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> jnneems: yes a few
[11:24] <gnomefreak> !install > jnneems
[11:24] <Anony> !women
[11:24] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[11:24] <gnomefreak> jnneems: read yoru pm
[11:24] <jnneems> !install
[11:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:24] <peteretief> !ubotu
[11:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:24] <patrickj> whats a good programming language to learn for linux application development?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> patrickj: python
[11:25] <ompaul> patrickj, python
[11:25] <peteretief> patrickj, want to start a war
[11:25] <peteretief> ruby
[11:25] <patrickj> alright, can it make good applications?
[11:25] <patrickj> hmm
[11:25] <silentread> patrickj, c++, java, python, ruby
[11:25] <patrickj> C++ sounds nice :P
[11:25] <Anony> !the ladies
[11:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about the ladies
[11:25] <patrickj> lol
[11:25] <wildman> here we go again...
[11:25] <Anony> ubotu, me neither
[11:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about me neither
[11:25] <patrickj> !c
[11:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about !c
[11:25] <patrickj> :O
[11:25] <wildman> patrickj: choose the right tool for the job
[11:25] <ompaul> Anony, stop playing with the bot
[11:25] <peteretief> c++ not great
[11:26] <patrickj> hmm alright well can C++ not do everything?
[11:26] <patrickj> !c++
[11:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about c++
[11:26] <patrickj> same :P
[11:26] <wildman> patrickj: in principle, ANY lang can do ANYTHING :)
[11:26] <Anony> haha
[11:26] <gnomefreak> peteretief: move programming languages to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:26] <patrickj> hmm
[11:26] <jnneems> gnomefreak, i dont have a floppy drive either!
[11:26] <peteretief> gnomefreak, me?
[11:26] <ompaul> Anony, if it was to keep you out he would not have missed - no laughing matter
[11:26] <gnomefreak> jnneems: there are more than that there
[11:26] <gnomefreak> peteretief: all of you
[11:26] <peteretief> heh
[11:26] <jnneems> ill keep readying then
[11:27] <gnomefreak> peteretief: this is not the place for it
[11:27] <peteretief> ok
[11:27] <greddy> how do i know if i have 3d acceleration working?
[11:27] <greddy> is there a built in utility in ubuntu?
[11:27] <NeedHelp> It's the Secondary Master
[11:27] <gnomefreak> greddy: glxgears -printfps
[11:27] <greddy> thanks
[11:27] <NeedHelp> the 'CD-ROM CDU5-Q'
[11:28] <NeedHelp> [old]
[11:28] <ardchoille> greddy: glxinfo | grep render
[11:28] <gnomefreak> greddy: the last number in each line should be higher than say a couple hundred
[11:28] <wildman> NeedHelp: /dev/hdc is the device name then
[11:28] <greddy> okay
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: not all cards will give you rendering
[11:28] <NeedHelp> k wait
[11:28] <greddy> i  guess its working
[11:28] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: really? ok
[11:28] <NeedHelp> how do I mount it?
[11:28] <wildman> mount /dev/hdc /mount_point
[11:28] <greddy> now
[11:28] <greddy> i'm having a strange problem
[11:28] <wildman> where /mount_point has to be an existing dir, of course
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: it has something to do witha  kernel module i htink
[11:29] <NeedHelp> what do I put in mount_point?
[11:29] <Kibou> not all card give you direct rendering.. but that's what you want
[11:29] <Kibou> +s
[11:29] <gnomefreak> greddy: ask and you shakll recieve
[11:29] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: oh, ok, that explains it
[11:29] <NeedHelp> ok wait
[11:29] <wildman> euh... any empty dir? :)
[11:29] <kbrooks> Kibou: none do
[11:29] <wildman> make up one just for this test
[11:29] <FlimFlamMan> help please  :-)   i've mounted a remote filesystem using sshfs.  when i use gedit to edit a file from this mount point, i can't save - it tells me i don't have permissions.  but i can edit/save the same file with no problems using vi.  any ideas?
[11:29] <greddy> sometimes i get weird artifacting on some buttons in the ui until i hover over them
[11:29] <greddy> what is causing that?
[11:29] <kbrooks> Kibou: um, no open source vid card drivers do
[11:30] <Kibou> intel + r200 work for me
[11:30] <wildman> greedy: video card RAM and/or drivers maybe...
[11:30] <NeedHelp> !pastebin
[11:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:30] <Kibou> i810 and radeon
[11:30] <greddy> i have never had trouble like this before
[11:30] <greddy> atleast in windows
[11:30] <ifvoid> hi
[11:30] <ardchoille> !fixres > ardchoille
[11:30] <ifvoid> what happened to /etc/locale.gen?
[11:30] <greddy> and it goes away once i hover over the button
[11:30] <ifvoid> how do I specify which locales are generated now?
[11:30] <K^Holtz> Ok, well ive read the multimedia wikis, and asked a couple times, but i cannot find anything that explains to me how to get DVD playback to work with VLC specifically, i see a lot about getting it to work with gstreamer and xine.. Can someone please help me out with this issue?
[11:30] <Warbo> Any guides for Amarok1.4.1? (The amarok-latest repo seems to have no visuals enabled)
[11:31] <erUSUL> ifvoid: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:31] <ifvoid> erUSUL: nope
[11:31] <ifvoid> tries that
[11:31] <ifvoid> but that just generates the locales
[11:31] <NeedHelp> right it works; how do I make it permanent
[11:31] <ifvoid> doesn;t let me choose whcih ones
[11:31] <ifvoid> (this is edgy btw)
[11:31] <PittNsciGuy> Hey, real quick question...how do I find the bus identifier for my video card?
[11:31] <Warbo> PittNsciGuy: lspci?
[11:31] <NeedHelp> how do I make it autop mount it like other CD-drives
[11:32] <erUSUL> ifvoid: then go ask in #ubuntu+1 XD
[11:32] <wildman> greddy: well...  Why can't they just say "ATI 1, ATI2, ATI 3", etc.?
[11:33] <wildman> which vid card do u have greddy?
[11:33] <greddy> i'm not sure if fglrx supports my card
[11:33] <giganti1> isn't eclipse supported in ubuntu?
[11:33] <greddy> have a RADEON AIW VE
[11:33] <PittNsciGuy> Warbo: haha well b/c that'd be just too smart...and make live much easier for us!
[11:33] <peteretief> eclipse and scite
[11:33] <s_spiff> giganti1: eclipse is supported
[11:34] <greddy> its listing as a RADEON SV200 i my device manager
[11:34] <giganti1> i can't find it in packages
[11:34] <aaron> I cant hit z (pasted from google) key, it seems like its a broken shortcut and I cant figure out which - my z  (pasted) key is dead in ubuntu
[11:34] <Warbo> PittNsciGuy: Yeah, but look at greddy's.  I gave up after GeForce cards stopped using sensible names
[11:34] <wildman> greddy: sigh... don't have any ATI hardware around... always used nvidia
[11:34] <NeedHelp> gonna reboot brb
[11:34] <K^Holtz> Ok, well ive read the multimedia wikis, and asked a couple times, but i cannot find anything that explains to me how to get DVD playback to work with VLC specifically, i see a lot about getting it to work with gstreamer and xine.. Can someone please help me out with this issue?
[11:34] <thenuke> aaron: and your keyb is not broken?
[11:34] <greddy> it lists as a 7500
[11:34] <PittNsciGuy> Warbo: Good point!  I'm about ready to give up if I can't get this stupid ATI card to start rendering!
[11:34] <aaron> no not at all
[11:34] <greddy> when i am pretty sure its a 7000
[11:34] <Kibou> greddy: laptop?
[11:34] <s_spiff> aaron: probably a hardware problem?
[11:35] <wildman> !ati
[11:35] <greddy> desktop
[11:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:35] <wildman> greddy: did u check that URL?
[11:35] <Kibou> that's an pretty old card then...
[11:35] <greddy> yeah i did
[11:35] <Kibou> -n
[11:35] <giganti1> why is eclipse not listed in synaptic?
[11:35] <wildman> well... what can I say? :)
[11:35] <greddy> the ati driver says you need a 8500 or newer
[11:35] <Warbo> PittNsciGuy: Well the driver thing is usually straightforward, but there is no easy way to compare the cards. Even from the same manufacturer
[11:35] <aaron> im going to reboot
[11:35] <s_spiff> giganti1: what version of ubuntu u using?
[11:35] <Warbo> giganti1: Do you have Universe on?
[11:35] <greddy> but mine isn't
[11:35] <wildman> giganti1: maybe cuz it's on restricted/multiverse/universe repos?
[11:35] <greddy> so i'm not really sure heh
[11:35] <peteretief> dont ati offer some linux support
[11:35] <Ropechoborra> How do i mount an mp3 player?
[11:35] <PittNsciGuy> Warbo: oh yeah, well that part is a pain too yes!
[11:35] <giganti1> okay, i didn't knew that
[11:36] <s_spiff> wildman, its shown in 'Applications' in the menu..
[11:36] <cntb> xmms skins link anyone ?
[11:36] <wildman> giganti1: almost always the answer when a given pkg is not found ;)
[11:36] <s_spiff> atleast did in the ubuntu BB 5.10
[11:36] <giganti1> thx wildman!
[11:36] <giganti1> :-d
[11:36] <wildman> giganti1: yw
[11:36] <wildman> s_spiff: ?
[11:36] <Warbo> As far as I know, Radeon 9200 and below uses "radeon" driver (I do) and above should use fglrx
[11:36] <wildman> s_spiff: maybe the 'menu' message above wasn't for me?
[11:37] <s_spiff> wildman: was fo r u..
[11:37] <cntb> Ropechoborra: most probably usb like any usb disk
[11:37] <s_spiff> actually its like more than 3 weeks since i got my hands on ubuntu
[11:37] <wildman> s_spiff: I'm lost then :)
[11:37] <abo> can anyone recommand a good C++ ide ?
[11:37] <Ropechoborra> cntb and.. how do i mount any usb disk ? x)
[11:37] <s_spiff> lost touch with it.. and the new DD is launched, and I've havent been able to try it yet
[11:37] <ubuntu> hello
[11:37] <abo> is KDevelop the best ide for c++ in linux?
[11:37] <kimo> abo: eclipse or kdevelop
[11:38] <s_spiff> abo Eclipse!
[11:38] <abo> Eclipse for c++?
[11:38] <cntb> plug in and if UBUNTU was installed OK must mount automatically
[11:38] <nf4> is there  a problem with the todays update
[11:38] <s_spiff> as far as i know, eclipse goes on to support java too..
[11:38] <Ropechoborra> cntb Thanks
[11:38] <greddy> well according to the forum
[11:38] <greddy> if i change my theme
[11:38] <greddy> the artifacting will disappear
[11:39] <greddy> brb going to try that :D
[11:39] <peteretief> eclipse supports many languages
[11:39] <s_spiff> hey any1 here who's got a Gigabyer iDNA motherboard?
[11:39] <nf4> it seems that when i click the update icon it scans and befor it can finish it crashes  and  returns to the login screen
[11:39] <rixxon> is it supposed to say "keyboard label" all over menubars?
[11:39] <wildman> abo: eclipse does have the cdt package, which is C Development Tools, which includes both C and C++ IIRC
[11:39] <rixxon> menus, i mean. dropdowns
[11:39] <NeedHelp> hi thanks guys
[11:40] <wildman> NeedHelp: all working fine now?
[11:40] <NeedHelp> yeah
[11:40] <Tarantulafudge> I'm having some issues mounting one of my other drives via nautilis
[11:40] <NeedHelp> Can you make the icons align on the right side instead of the left?
[11:40] <wildman> NeedHelp: great. yw then ;)
[11:40] <Tarantulafudge> or hoever you spell it
[11:40] <ardchoille> Anyone know any good 2d side-scrolling games for Linux? or maybe in the repos?
[11:40] <abo> wildman, ok thank you (and performance wise is it good?.. I have the impression that eclipse is too slow)
[11:40] <brotakul> i have a problem with my ATI Radeon 9600xt. i want to reduce the fan speed but i coldn't find anything like Ati Tray Tools for linux. do you know ant app like that i can use?
[11:40] <Tarantulafudge> It says PUMOUNT: Device /dev/hda3 is not removable"
[11:40] <wildman> abo: 1.5GB of RAM here, cannot really answer you ;)
[11:40] <Reimu> I have ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu on one machine, is there any disadvantage to cross running programs? Like say running Konversation in xfce or gnome?
[11:40] <greddy> lol it worked
[11:40] <NeedHelp> Can you make the icons align on the right side instead of the left?
[11:40] <greddy> that is hot
[11:40] <Warbo> ardchoille: Geki3? (but it's not that good :) )
[11:41] <thenuke>
[11:41] <wildman> abo: but usually Eclipse performance is fine, even with less than 1.5GB RAM ;) (I've used it with 512MB before, no pbs)
[11:41] <NeedHelp> is it possible?
[11:41] <ardchoille> Warbo: ok, I'll check it out. Thank you :)
[11:41] <nf4> any one have any problems with todays update?
[11:41] <Ropechoborra> Wich is the name of the music player?? amarekO? or something like that??
[11:41] <abo> wildman...ok..  I have 1GB it should be ok
[11:41] <NeedHelp> Can you make icons automatically align to the right, instead of the left
[11:41] <Sleeping_Sloth> ropechoborra: amarok
[11:41] <Ropechoborra> nf4, I do
[11:41] <Reimu> Ropechoborra: amaroK
[11:41] <peteretief> amarok
[11:42] <Warbo> Any guides or repos for Amarok 1.4.1 with libvisual support compiled in? (I can'r get it to build manually)
[11:42] <nf4> it seems to return to the login each time i try and use it
[11:42] <s_spiff> abo: eclipse is quite slow.. but with 512 it works pretty fine
[11:42] <Ropechoborra> nf4, but i think its my internet connection
[11:42] <wildman> abo: yep, 1GB should be enough ;)
[11:42] <s_spiff> :P
[11:42] <hcjc92> i think i'm gonna remove kubuntu :)
[11:42] <Ropechoborra> Reimu, Sleeping_Sloth ty
[11:42] <nf4> whats your problem?
[11:42] <greddy> okay ow
[11:42] <Ropechoborra> nf4, too slow, and sometimes fails
[11:42] <Sleeping_Sloth> Ropechoborra: do you use conky?
[11:42] <Ropechoborra> Nop
[11:42] <Ropechoborra> brb
[11:42] <greddy> next issue need to get a vnc server running so i can start running this thing headless :>
[11:43] <NeedHelp> Can you align icons to the right automatically?
[11:43] <rixxon> can you stop the minimize animation
[11:43] <nf4> mine just crashes befor it is finished scaning to see what updates are out
[11:43] <nf4> it wont even get to the part where i click install updates
[11:43] <brotakul> i have a problem with my ATI Radeon 9600xt. i want to reduce the fan speed but i coldn't find anything like Ati Tray Tools for linux. do you know ant app like that i can use please?
[11:43] <hcjc92> has anyone here ever compiled zdoom under ubuntu, (i doubt it) cause mine always fails on anything todo with fmod....
[11:44] <Leonidas> hi
[11:44] <Warbo> hcjc92: I have heard of many fmod problems in Doom engines
[11:44] <peteretief> how do i list channels in xchat?
[11:44] <Reimu> I have ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu on one machine, is there any disadvantage to cross running programs? Like say running Konversation in xfce or gnome?
[11:44] <s_spiff{AWAY}> use / list
[11:44] <peteretief> ah thnks
[11:45] <s_spiff{AWAY}> np
[11:45] <s_spiff{AWAY}> good night ppl [ 3.15 am here ] ..cya
[11:45] <aergern> Reimu: No. You can run whatever you want in any of the window managers.
[11:45] <hcjc92> Warbo, i've installed fmod, and i know people that have (and run) zdoom on ubuntu it just annoying that the make fails on the first mention of fmod....
[11:45] <greddy> brotakul did you try installing the ati driver package?
[11:45] <greddy> i think it has some tools
[11:45] <brotakul> yes
[11:45] <aergern> There is no advantage or disadvantage.
[11:45] <brotakul> where?
[11:45] <ubuntu> hola como estan se que no saben lo que digo po eso aprendan el espao no somos los unicos que devemos aprender otros idiomas idiatas.
[11:45] <brotakul> i an rookie user
[11:45] <Warbo> Reimu: KDE apps in particular use several servers and daemons, so running KDE stuff in GNOME or XFCE would cause a bit of overhead, but those daemons would then be shared by any other KDE apps
[11:45] <ompaul> !es
[11:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:45] <pontifex> Moin everyone. I have a machine running dapper that has started to lock up in x on me, i have changed from nvidia to nv driver but it still locks up. i can ssh in and note xorg taking 100%
[11:46] <pontifex> any ideas?
[11:46] <greddy> this thing
[11:46] <greddy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:46] <ubuntu> pp
[11:46] <pontifex> i tried killing individual applications but that made no difference, killing x eventually caused gdm to restart as normal
[11:46] <pontifex> but it keeps locking on me
[11:47] <pontifex> I have run a memtest for 24 hours and there were no problems
[11:47] <Leonidas> Anyoune in here, having experience with AGP caused freezes fo the X-Server?
[11:47] <Reimu> Warbo: I think I get it, if I run a KDE app, a GNOME app, and an xfce app all at the same time it is worse than using 3 xfce apps right? Because they each run different things?
[11:47] <Ropechoborra> !mp3
[11:47] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:47] <hcjc92> how can i close gnome, and not shutdown
[11:47] <Ropechoborra> !easycam
[11:47] <pontifex> it's just locked again after the jingle you get after logon
[11:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about easycam
[11:47] <Ropechoborra> !webcam
[11:47] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:47] <pontifex> hcjc92: choose logout from the System menu ?
[11:48] <FlimFlamMan> is there a gtk2 syntax-highlighting code editor that works with sshfs?  gedit seems unable to save to an sshfs mount point (it says i don't have permissions to save the file, though i do)
[11:48] <Warbo> Reimu: "XFCE apps" are usually similar to GNOME apps, so they are more generally called "GTK apps". Running QT (KDE) and GTK apps together is fine, but may run a little slower than using all GTK, or all QT (as long as you are in KDE when running the QT ones)
[11:48] <Leonidas> FlimFlamMan: tried SciTE?
[11:48] <K^Holtz> Can someone help me get my DVD to play in VLC specifically?
[11:49] <Warbo> K^Holtz: I think as long as you have decss installed and DMA enabled it should be fine
[11:49] <Leonidas> Is it normal to load agpgart when I disable it in the blacklist? (I use NvAGP instead)
[11:49] <pontifex> is there any way to see which app is causing xorg to go to 100%
[11:50] <K^Holtz> Warbo: well the dvd shows up on my desktop, totem opens automatically and it says that it cant play, but i dont care about totem, so i open vlc, and im not sure how to open the dvd
[11:51] <Warbo> K^Holtz: If you use the regular Open box, rather than the "Quick Open" then it should be pretty obvious
[11:51] <kimo> guys, anyone using some unofficial kernel debs?? (plz tell me about it, as default kernel, just doesnt like my hardware!)
[11:51] <Tarantulafudge> I just installed something with like 10 deps, and I want to uninstall it
[11:51] <kristian> Hatred, you here?
[11:51] <Tarantulafudge> I want the deps to come with it
[11:51] <K^Holtz> Warbo: hold on, let me try again
[11:51] <Tarantulafudge> anyone?
[11:52] <Warbo> Tarantulafudge: Try using aptitude
[11:52] <Tarantulafudge> Warbo: I tried
[11:52] <chrisbudden14> anyone know why i get this error - > libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../..//libXrender.la' is not a valid libtool archive.  -dev for libxrenderer is installed
[11:52] <hyphenated> Tarantulafudge: use /var/log/dpkg.log to see what things got installed around the same time as that package
[11:52] <Warbo> Tarantulafudge: Well you could try debfoster if you don't mind wasting a bit of time
[11:52] <Zaire> anyone in her know anything about a package called xlibs?
[11:52] <K^Holtz> Warbo: ok, im in the open dialogue box, do i click the disc tab and just click OK?
[11:53] <greddy> ahhh shoot
[11:53] <Warbo> K^Holtz: You will need to give it the right device (usually /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd)
[11:53] <greddy> by default does someone know what should be in /etc/modules
[11:53] <greddy> with a default install
[11:54] <K^Holtz> Warbo: vlc just closed on me when i toldit to open /dev/hdc  lol
[11:54] <Tarantulafudge> Why is it so complicated to remove a bunch of crap that came with something
[11:54] <Warbo> K^Holtz: Try doing "sudo eject /dev/hdc" and the same for hdd. Then it is pretty obvious which one is your drive :)
[11:54] <Tarantulafudge> all the other distros are the same way, it makes no sense at all to keep the extra crap
[11:55] <POVaddct> Tarantulafudge: you want to try deborphan
[11:55] <Zaire> Im trying to get cedega installed but it says Im missing a package called xlibs
[11:55] <hunter_> how can i change hte config for startx so it start fluxbox and not gnome?
[11:55] <Warbo> Zaire: That package doesn't actually exist, but xlibs-dev does
[11:55] <Tarantulafudge> POVaddct: but the point is I'm having to open insatll applications and use cli just to remove deps that should have been removed anyways
[11:55] <Zaire> I got that one but it still won't install the cedega.deb file
[11:56] <K^Holtz> Warbo: its definitly hdc.. but when i type dev/hdc in the open box, VLC just simply closes
[11:56] <jonah1980> hi i've been trying to delete a folder for ages and it just won't let me, even if i sudo nautilus and navigate to it! please can someone help me get rid of it!
[11:57] <abo> when I go to synaptic, and go to Settings->Repositories and then click on Add to add the restricted and multivers, in the Add Channel dialog, I select for each Channel the 4 components, and then click add, and then if i cycle again in the channel I see the univers and multiverse unselected again, any ideas?
[11:57] <wildman> jonah1980: sudo rm -rf folder_name, run in a terminal
[11:57] <Warbo> K^Holtz: Have you followed the guides for Totem and stuff? You said you don't care if totem can't play it, but if totem does, then VLC should do as well
[11:57] <Tarantulafudge> Amazing, nothing in the deborphan output actually came from the app I uninstalled
[11:57] <hunter_> how do i make fluxbox start instead of gnome?
[11:57] <Warbo> jonah1980: "sudo rm -r foldername"?
[11:57] <gatekeeper> jonah1980: has the folder got anything inside it?
[11:58] <Gun_Smoke9> abo:  I had the same problem yesterday.. I still haven't figured it out..  Someone in here said its just bad GUI, and they are selected.
[11:58] <WiNn3t0U> hello
[11:58] <jonah1980> wildman, that didn't seem to do anything
[11:58] <WiNn3t0U> people i need big help...
[11:58] <K^Holtz> Warbo: ok, i guess i'll do that then..does that mean i have to run the gstreamer commands?
[11:58] <abo> Gun_Smoke9, I was searching for sun java... can't find it in the list
[11:58] <wildman> WiNn3t0U: just shot your question
[11:59] <wildman> jonah1980: it should delete it all w/o asking...
[11:59] <WiNn3t0U> OK.... so.... i'm a newbie in linux, and i've installed it.....
[11:59] <Warbo> K^Holtz: Not usually, but the packages you install should be the same (libdecss2 or something, ffmpeg maybe...)
[11:59] <Tarantulafudge> anyone?
[11:59] <giant> same here winnetou
[11:59] <WiNn3t0U> then on linux's site i found the source-o-matic generator that i used.... and edited my sources.list
[12:00] <WiNn3t0U> when i updated my system, i obviously wanted to reset and re log
[12:00] <WiNn3t0U> but while starting it, i had an error
[12:00] <Gun_Smoke9> abo:   Good luck.. That is my mission for todya.. I'm looking for the same thing and have run into the same problems..
[12:00] <WiNn3t0U> and i couldn't start it because of something related to the display
[12:00] <eskina3> olas
[12:00] <erUSUL> !es
[12:00] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:00] <Warbo> WiNn3t0U: Do you get a blue text-based screen?
[12:00] <wildman> eskina3: EN only, #ubuntu-es