[08:03] <monkey__> rredd4: i had 512 mb ram running feisty and work fine.  few months ago i up it to 2gb, 1.7 ghz and now installed gusty
[08:03] <lax> anyone know how to make ubuntu boot faster?
[08:03] <jmg> nickrud: ill try that thanks
[08:03] <nickrud> z3wb: it's ok, minimalist kinda
[08:03] <twager_> /part
[08:03] <monkey__> rredd4: xfce feels just the same as gnome on this lappy
[08:03] <rredd4> lax don't shut it off...
[08:03] <z3wb> well you can add a lot to it
[08:03] <z3wb> i just have a very slow computer
[08:03] <lax> lol
[08:04] <z3wb> and fluxbox is alright, but i dont need tabs
[08:04] <nicholaspaul> z3wb how slow?
[08:04] <thr1lljockey> Dima51: my bad... the command is :syntax on
[08:04] <nickrud> z3wb: I finally retired my 466 celeron on dapper
[08:04] <rredd4> monkey__ have always used gdm on my lappy
[08:04] <rredd4> lax  lol!!
[08:04] <rredd4> lax  that would fix it
[08:04] <cdomigan> Hi. I'm running a LAMP server on Dapper. How would I upgrade to the latest PHP (5.2)? "apt-get upgrade" just installs security updates etc it seems.
[08:04] <z3wb> its a wierd offbrand computer
[08:04] <lax> it draws power when on
[08:04] <kaWUMM> good morning
[08:04] <monkey__> rredd4: i am getting bored of the interface for gnome, kde, xfce and fluxbox.  wonder what should i try next.
[08:04] <nicholaspaul> aah.
[08:05] <monkey__> rredd4: yes, always had gdm on this lappy
[08:05] <rredd4> monkey__  e  (enlightment)  different interface
[08:05] <nickrud> cdomigan: you'd probably have to either compile it yourself, or run down a 3d party deb on the net
[08:05] <z3wb> gnome is cool, but too slow on this laptop
[08:05] <z3wb> and i never really cared for kde
[08:05] <cdomigan> nickrud: k, thx
[08:05] <rredd4> lax  sleep....
[08:05] <gryfel> monkey: OroboROX as Windowmanager and rox-filer as iconbar and pinboard
[08:05] <lax> oh btw rredd you know of any app for gnome that shows syste stats on desktop
[08:05] <monkey__> rredd4: when i upgrade from 512mb to 2gb in feisty, it feels the same, no increase in speed. but just with gusty, it feels slow comparing to feisty
[08:06]  * Xacarith actually just wants to get things working
[08:06] <Detra> Fyda, Can you see whats wrong ?
[08:06] <kaWUMM> hi could someone tell me the apt-get path for the new 7.10 release?
[08:06] <stupidgirl> lax conky is hawwt
[08:06] <haru> !flash
[08:06] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:06] <rredd4> monkey__  should be faster with 2gb...  512 is my max
[08:06] <Xacarith> KDE is actually managing my desktop a little better, more functionality.  But between the three Gnome still has the best over all performance.
[08:06] <jmg> kaWUMM: update-manager should alert you there is a new version available
[08:06] <nickrud> kaWUMM: if you're upgrading from 7.04 , try update-manager -c
[08:06] <[chr0n0s]> can anyone help me with this --> http://pastebin.ca/746492
[08:07] <Fyda> Detra: I'm not sure. "Can't open scripts/make.opts" could mean that the file doesn't exist.
[08:07] <kaWUMM> :D
[08:07] <z3wb> i tried xfce and its not that much speedier than gnome
[08:07] <Detra> Fyda, ok ?
[08:07] <Fyda> Detra: Since it's giving undeclared identifier errors, though, I think the script it's running is reliant upon another script that doesn't exist
[08:07] <rredd4> monkey__ i guess as they get new versions of gnome, it gets slower on older machines  ?
[08:07] <haru> i have flash in firefox w/o sound.. anyone know a solution?
[08:07] <Fyda> Detra: Anyway, I don't know.
[08:07] <monkey__> rredd4: ram does increase performance imo.  i need to upgraded to run multiple virtual machines
[08:07] <Detra> Fyda, ok thx anyways ...
[08:07] <monkey__> s /upgraded /upgrade it
[08:08] <Korg> haru: same prob here
[08:08] <haru> Korg, :)
[08:08] <monkey__> rredd4: mine is 1.5 years old
[08:08] <haru> anyone know how to fix no sound problem with flash plugin in firefox
[08:09] <haru> !flash-plugin
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash-plugin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <haru> !flash
[08:09] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:09] <nickrud> !flash
[08:09] <riotkittie> i should really try to figure out why xubuntu is so sluggish. some day.
[08:09] <Dima51> Can U advise my good books or links for newcomer in Linux, I have just install this system, and I'ts dificult to do understand it
[08:09] <[chr0n0s]> riotkittie, xfce over ubuntu install running okayish
[08:09] <nickrud> haru: try searching for pages with Flash in the names on help.ubuntu.com/community , there are some troubleshooting pages ghere
[08:09] <dxdt> I have problems watching youtube videos while using either the flash plugin from Adobe or the Gnash OS plugin.  Any help?  Only a gray box is displayed :(
[08:10] <rredd4> Stupidgirl  you should be Smartgirl...!
[08:10] <haru> nickrud, trying that :)
[08:10] <stupidgirl> rredd4, orly? 8-]
[08:10] <troy_> just wondering, to play eq2 in a virtual box, i have win95-winXP, what virtual box + os would work best ?
[08:10] <alex__> quit
[08:10] <jmg> troy_: none
[08:11] <Dima51> I'm allways asking people at chats, and all my friends who understand in Linux are tired to answer the qwestions
[08:11] <troy_> lol er thanks
[08:11] <rredd4> stupidgirl  yeah!
[08:11] <z3wb> for those of you who can't get sound in flash, try screwing around with auto-suspend
[08:11] <jmg> t
[08:11] <[chr0n0s]> can anyone help me with this --> http://pastebin.ca/746492
[08:11] <nickrud> troy_: none of the virtual thingo's support accelerated 3d
[08:11] <stupidgirl> ook rredd4  thnx,
[08:12] <haru> nickrud, btw know the fix for no usplash on boot ?
[08:12] <nickrud> z3wb: auto-suspend?
[08:12] <troy_> nich - thanks, i didnt consider that
[08:12] <_Lucretia_> I assume it's safe to do an update to gutsy via update manager?
[08:12] <z3wb> that's what fixes the flash sound bug in slax
[08:12] <z3wb> i dont know if it will work in ubuntu though
[08:12] <dxdt> _Lucretia_: did it today, yes it is
[08:12] <rredd4> stupidgirl   type    /nick smartgirl
[08:12] <rocketeer> evening guys
[08:12] <nickrud> haru: I turned off usplash, I really like the scrolling kernel messages (not, fglrx breaks consoles with framebuffers)
[08:13] <stupidgirl> lol rredd4, i like being stupid ;)
[08:13] <_Lucretia_> dxdt: well, here goes
[08:13] <_Lucretia_> Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[08:13] <rredd4> stupidgirl  lol
[08:13] <haru> :(
[08:13] <flokuehn> Arafangion: hey how are you doing?
[08:13] <stupidgirl> stupidrredd4, :D
[08:13] <_Lucretia_> dxdt: ?
[08:13] <stupidrredd4> lol
[08:14] <rocketeer> hoping someone can help me....I might have to roll back to fawn....(is noob)
[08:14] <sJim> Compiz doesn't work properly. I got fglrx-driver, is that the reason?
[08:14] <dxdt> _Lucretia_: dunno, perhaps someone else in the room does.
[08:14] <_Lucretia_> obviously that repos is down
[08:14] <nickrud> sJim: yup. You need to install xserver-xgl to get compiz to work with fglrx
[08:14] <z3wb> i have a very serious problem. can someone help me with this: http://pastebin.ca/746499
[08:14] <stupidgirl> sJim, what u mean "properly" what does it not do
[08:15] <haru> anyone know the fix for no usplash on boot ?
[08:15] <nickrud> z3wb: ohmy'ed again, this is usually a one strike channel. Lucky for you, no ops seem to be monitoring at the moment
[08:15] <stupidgirl> haru i used a thing called start-up managertodothat,easy gui stuff
[08:15] <z3wb> lol relax it was a joke
[08:15] <julz> hi, can someone help me mount a drive that doesnt want to mount?
[08:15] <z3wb> and don't be a backseat moderator :3
[08:16] <haru> stupidgirl, problem is my scnreen blinks till it loads gdm
[08:16] <nickrud> z3wb: I don't really care, it's just a head's up
[08:16] <troy_> arg, dont go to > http://pastebin.ca/746499, its a waste (really)
[08:16] <haru> stupidgirl, problem stays with changing resolutions for usplash
[08:16] <[chr0n0s]> can anyone help me with this --> http://pastebin.ca/746492
[08:16] <rocketeer> Okay hopefully someone can help me out with this. I just partitioned and installed gutsy on this gateway lapto that I have. I am trying to dual boot it with vista until i know that everything is going to work, but when I try and connect to my wireless network computer locks up and scroll lock, caps lock keys blink. any ideas? Is it the driver?  I just partitioned and installed gutsy on this gateway lapto that I have. I am trying to dual boot it with vista until i know that everything is going to work, but when I try and connect to my wireless network computer locks up and scroll lock, caps lock keys blink. any ideas? Is it the driver? Or should I roll back to Fawn?
[08:20] <elkbuntu> [chr0n0s], /msg ubotu would have worked without drawing attention :)
[08:20] <Madpilot> [chr0n0s], safe way to do that is "/msg ubotu <bot command>"
[08:20] <haru> naught101, dpkg -l
[08:21] <julz> rredd4, it wont mount cos it says windows needs to check it, but i cant boot into windows, any way around it?
[08:21] <elkbuntu> we all have the factoid name in our highlights incase ubotu doesnt work ;)
[08:21] <[chr0n0s]> next time :)
[08:21] <pathos> hi
[08:21] <thr1lljockey> rocketeer: the blinky keys are possibly due to kernel panic... basically the linux version of a blue screen
[08:21] <rocketeer> thr1lljockey Thats what i was told, any way to avoid this
[08:21] <rredd4> julz  maybe Madpilot can help you...
[08:21] <naught101> haru: you must have missed the second part of my sentance: "sorted by size"
[08:21] <rredd4> or someone
[08:22] <pathos> i can ask questions here?
[08:22] <rredd4> !questioins
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about questioins - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <stupidgirl> pathos,  u just did
[08:22] <z3wb> you just did
[08:22] <rocketeer> pathos yes it may be a but though
[08:22] <rocketeer> er
[08:22] <rocketeer> bit
[08:22] <pathos> you spelled it wrong
[08:22] <rredd4> !questions
[08:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:22] <nicholaspaul> yes u can
[08:22] <haru> naught101, i dont thiknk there'd be a command .. u might get away with a script tho
[08:22] <desertc> Anyone else noticing Totem not coming out of fullscreen correctly in Gutsy ??
[08:22] <rocketeer> thr1lljockey Thats what i was told, any way to avoid this?
[08:22] <thr1lljockey> rocketeer: i'm not sure what caused the panic... could be completely unrelated to network stuffs
[08:22] <naught101> haru: cheers
[08:22] <chinasky> hello, when booting the gutsy cd i got a black screen with "udevd-event[2293] run_progran: /sbin/modprobe abnormal exit, i tried with i386 and 64bit cd with the same error.
[08:22] <haru> naught101, also what do u mean by size, by install size or by package size
[08:22] <dxdt> desertc: no, it comes out of full screen fine for me
[08:23] <thr1lljockey> rocketeer: is it functioning normally before you try to connect to wireless ap?
[08:23] <naught101> haru: doesn't really matter, either or
[08:23] <desertc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/153655
[08:23] <pathos> i have a problem that i think may be simple, but perhaps not.  I switched from a dsl modem/router to a d-link and when i boot with the d-link, i get no sound at all.
[08:23] <haru> haru, finally package size wouldnt be saved on the local system unless its stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:23] <rocketeer> thr1lljockey: yes, no problems with anything but networking....i thought maybe it was just the driver
[08:23] <desertc> It's been triaged.  Ah well.  I'm sure it will be fixed by Hardy
[08:23] <nickrud> naught101: dpkg-query has switches for that,
[08:23] <rocketeer> but network card detets the network
[08:23] <julz> is Madpilot round and not busy?
[08:24] <naught101> nickrud: I've been looking at the man page, I can't figure it out
[08:24] <thr1lljockey> rocketeer: using restricted drivers?
[08:24] <rocketeer> thr1lljockey: not sure, how do i check on that
[08:24] <haru> nickrud, only by installed size , not by installer size :)
[08:24] <Guillem_> In Gutsy, my gnome apps fonts are more blurry than at Feisty. OpenOffice is just OK. What's wrong?
[08:24] <Tom_Kun> well.. 2 problems have occured for me after upgrading. 1. OpenOffice.Org no longer launches (complains about missing window manager) 2. java applets no longer launches
[08:25] <nickrud> naught101: it's complex, yes, and haru you get what you can :)
[08:25] <pathos> seems my problem may be at the end of the queue..
[08:25] <Guillem_> QT-4 fonts are also OK
[08:25] <thr1lljockey> rocketeer: if you were using them, you'd probably know... there's a big bright banner talking about restricted drivers when you log in (if there are any installed)
[08:25] <bhm> does anybody know how to clone ubuntu configuration to different computer?
[08:25] <naught101> aptitude -O installsize search '~i' works, but doesn't list the sizes
[08:25] <Rhe> !torrents
[08:25] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!
[08:26] <n2diy_> bhm: kickstart?
[08:26] <z3wb> My Ubuntu server seems to malfunction when i beat it with a hamemr. Is there something I'm doing wrong?
[08:26] <nickrud> haru: actually, it has installed size and size, could probably format the output and pipe it through sort.
[08:26] <rocketeer> thr1lljockey: no, nothing special on start, network card detects the network just fine, kernel panic happens on connect
[08:26] <z3wb> *hammer
[08:26] <thr1lljockey> rocketeer: does the laptop have an rj45 port? you can try a hardwire connection to your router/gateway
[08:26] <stupidgirl> z3wb, hit harder use a heavier hammer
[08:26] <ax> hmm, so mplayer and xine [which i assume are both using xv] only show a solid blue image
[08:26] <n2diy_> z3wb: you need a larger hammer.
[08:26] <pathos> i have also posted my problem at the ubuntu forums if anyone would like to take a look at try to giv e me a hand  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587600
[08:26] <z3wb> will do
[08:26] <ax> after gutsy update
[08:26] <rocketeer> thr1lljockey: i would if i had easy access to the router, however it's in the upstairs apartment
[08:27] <guuuuh> please, can anyone help me connecting two pcs by crossover cable, so i can test squid? im using a crossover cable, one side is: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7... the other: 3, 6, 1, 4, 5, 2, 7... i configured the ips on the same network, set the gateway on the "client" but i cant ping them... the interfaces are working nice... any idea?
[08:27] <z3wb> Ok I used a much larger hammer. Now my desk isn't working either.
[08:27] <n2diy_> z3wb: QSL?
[08:27] <stupidgirl> nuke it
[08:27] <haru> nickrud, it does o.O
[08:28]  * nickrud has never used dpkg-query, however
[08:28] <rocketeer> thr1lljockey: i really want to try fawn and am currently downloading the iso, maybe that might help me as wiki lists full support for my wireless card
[08:28] <pinkey> in #lisp
[08:28] <stupidgirl> what's everyones favourite mail client
[08:28] <nickrud> evolution, but I use thunderbird
[08:28] <aftertaf> anyone know a fix for DMA not able to be activated on IDE system?
[08:28] <z3wb> thunderbird
[08:28] <stupidgirl> hmmk
[08:29] <pathos> i use ajax mail clients
[08:29] <n2diy_> aftertaf: boot with the "nodma" switch.
[08:29] <nickrud> stupidgirl: if I wasn't using imap, i'd stick with evolution
[08:29]  * [chr0n0s] thinks some1 is hitting someone (using a hammer?)
[08:29] <naught101> $ aptitude -O installsize search '~i' -F %p
[08:29] <aftertaf> n2diy_: ?? I can't activate DMA, I want to . . .
[08:29] <tarntow> i have a problem with my harddisk space where deleting files doesnt seem change anything on the capacity of storage space?
[08:29] <aftertaf> tarntow: empty trash?
[08:29] <thr1lljockey> rocketeer: it would be ideal to isolate the issue to either a driver or the networking code... my best suggestion would be switch drivers (as you'd be doing switching to feisty) or test a different network device with the current kernel (by connecting via hardwire instead of wireless)
[08:29] <dmjones500> \q
[08:29] <tarntow> aftertaf: trash is empty
[08:30] <nickrud> aptitude to the rescue again, gotta learn some more switches I guess
[08:30] <haru> nickrud, i tried alsa, oss and aoss for firefoxrc [flash] :( still no sounds.. any ideas?
[08:30] <z3wb> right, then. gutsy cd finished burning. rebooting now. wish me luck
[08:30] <pathos> what's everyone's preferred usenet client?
[08:30] <pathos> i currently use pan
[08:30] <stupidgirl> good luck z3wb  d00de
[08:30] <n2diy_> aftertaf: DMA isn't working, I'd try to bypass it.
[08:30] <desertc> z3wb: good luck.  hope you got space on /boot
[08:30] <nickrud> haru: no, I've been very lucky with linux and sound. Never had any problems
[08:31] <ook_male> i install an application, how to make it auto start when ubuntu load?
[08:31] <aftertaf> n2diy_: with the nodma switch in grub? could that make my system respond a bit better?
[08:31] <rocketeer> thr1lljockey: as I can't do the hard wire connection (maybe i could go to kinkos and try) I guess I'll have to roll back to fawn and see if that fixes it. Not a problem. but I guess I need to know how to do that
[08:31] <stupidgirl> add it to sessions ook_male
[08:31] <n2diy_> aftertaf: Yes, it may.
[08:31] <Myrtti> pathos: thunderbird?
[08:31] <stupidgirl> well depending on which de u use
[08:31] <Dr-Dj> #Dr-Dj join please
[08:31] <haru> anyone know how to fix no sound problem with flash in firefox, i have tried editing the firefoxrc for aoss and alsa and oss in vain ... :(
[08:31] <aftertaf> n2diy_: ok ill try that... SO, DMA is broken in gutsy right now????
[08:31] <dxdt> ook_male: do you want it to start when the Ubuntu does, or when your desktop does?  If when you desktop does, you can do that under Preferences >> Sessions
[08:32] <ook_male> stupidgirl, would you give me more keyword, what kind of sessions ? so i can do google
[08:32] <ook_male> desktop does
[08:32] <ook_male> thanks
[08:32] <stupidgirl> um are u using gnome ook_male
[08:32] <dxdt> no way dma is broken?  Huh whut?
[08:32] <stupidgirl> yer what he said ^^
[08:32] <n2diy_> aftertaf: No, DMA drivers are hard to find, the manufactures to give theme to us, so it is hard to get them working.
[08:32] <ook_male> stupidgirl, yes Ubuntu (Gnome) i don't modify the built in xwindow manager
[08:32] <Dr-Dj> #Dr-Dj join please
[08:32] <tarntow> is there a way of listing size of each file within the home folder on one screen?
[08:33] <Ademan> tarntow: uh, ls -l ?
[08:33] <stupidgirl> do what dxdt told u then, ook_male
[08:33] <erUSUL> tarntow: ls -sh
[08:33] <rocketeer> thr1lljockey: as I can't do the hard wire connection (maybe i could go to kinkos and try) I guess I'll have to roll back to fawn and see if that fixes it. Not a problem. but I guess I need to know how to do that
[08:33] <thr1lljockey> !ops > dr-dj
[08:33] <dena> hey my gutsy install isn't seeing my network printers... anyone know what i should do?
[08:34] <erUSUL> tarntow: if there are many files it maybe does not fit in one page... that's what pagers what written for use 'ls -sh | less'
[08:34] <ook_male> so, the application is Psi (jabber chat client), i already open sessions... well the Psi shortcut is Applications - Internet - Psi, where is it?
[08:34] <NolanG> Gutsy failed to properly upgrade my Feisty install. After lots of work, I've gotten it running, but I need to find a way to rerun the old cleanup that uninstalls the older Feisty packages.  How can I do that?
[08:34] <haru> anyone know how to fix no sound problem with flash in firefox, i have tried editing the firefoxrc for aoss and alsa and oss in vain ... :(
[08:34] <thr1lljockey> rocketeer: sorry, that guy was spamming me
[08:34] <sJim> hmm.. still no compiz. and I couldn't even log in after I unstalled that xserver-xgl
[08:34] <dxdt> lulz I love when the ops are called and they come in and drop the banhammer
[08:34] <tarntow> ademan: cheers
[08:34] <tarntow> erUSUL: cheers
[08:34] <Kazz> Hey, can anyone tell me if EVMS is working right in Gutsy now?
[08:34] <dxdt> seriously never gets old.  It always gets me to smile a tiny bit.
[08:34] <thr1lljockey> rocketeer: i don't know how to downgrade an install, unfortunately
[08:35] <rocketeer> thr1lljockey: bet i can use vista to format the partition and go for a clean install.
[08:35] <thr1lljockey> livecd can do it too
[08:35] <ook_male> how do find out where is Psi located ?
[08:35] <rocketeer> livecd?
[08:35] <Kazz> I've seen things about it not working before, and I noticed that it seems to be something they're dropping for some reason...which is bad for me since I have 4 500 gig drives using EVMS...heh.
[08:35] <haru> rocketeer, desktop install cd
[08:35] <rocketeer> is that a command?
[08:35] <haru> ook_male, locate psi
[08:36] <rocketeer> (is linux ultimate noob)
[08:36] <haru> rocketeer, no its the ubuntu installation disk
[08:36] <rocketeer> oic
[08:36] <rocketeer> i have that. clean uninstall with livecd
[08:36] <ook_male> thanks
[08:36] <rocketeer> then boot to fawn and reinstall
[08:36] <rocketeer> ?
[08:36] <haru> ok
[08:36] <Kazz> The "live" part refers to the fact that you can boot and run the OS from the CD. :)
[08:36] <Tom_Kun> I also an error odd error where 'changes' to new packages seem to fail due to error in 'buffer read(fd)'
[08:37] <erUSUL> Kazz: iirc evms is a lvm 'frontend' so hopefully you can use lvm tools to access your drives (evms ones are easier/pritier though)
[08:37] <thr1lljockey> rocketeer: when you boot from the disc, you get a fully functioning system... the install process can play nice with other linux installations, or it can happily wipe out everything on your drive. it asks first, so don't worry...
[08:37] <dena> hey my gutsy install isn't seeing my network printers... anyone know what i should do?
[08:37] <rocketeer> thr1lljockey and haru: thank you so much guys
[08:37] <mrj> dena, invest in markers and paper
[08:37] <rocketeer> fawn is 41% downloaded and almost ready to burn
[08:37] <tarntow> my home folder is on a separate partition and should have 27G but apparently 93% is being used ...just that i'm not sure where has all those storage space has gone?
[08:38] <haru> tarntow, ls -la
[08:38] <Guillem_> tarntow, also: baobab
[08:38] <Kazz> erUSUL: It's more than just a front end to LVM, although I'm not clear on whether or not I could still mount things with EVMS gone...I don't think I could though. :(
[08:38] <thr1lljockey> rocketeer: good luck, hopefully it works!
[08:38] <rocketeer> thr1lljockey and haru: thank you so much guys, I'll probably be back. I'm absolutely determined to get rid of this bloated beast otherwise knone as vista
[08:38] <silox> Hi, I need a simple java editor with a compiler /link to compiler - just like ex. Textpad and Context in  Windows - any ideas?
[08:38] <dxdt> tarntow: check out Applications >> Accessories >> Disk Usage Analyzer.  May give you clues where space is going since you can sort by that and such
[08:39] <haru> :) good luck rocketeer
[08:39] <Kazz> erUSUL: I think that EVMS does some things that are specific to it...
[08:39] <Optimus55> i glad for this chan. people in #ubuntu are a *lot* more helpful than in #java....
[08:39] <haru> tarntow, try du -ks * .[^.]* | sort -n
[08:39] <julz> can windows write to an ext3 disc? via 3rd party spftware?
[08:39] <mao42> Okay, I'm trying to install the newer ALSA drivers, I've got the drivers made and installed, now I'm trying to get the library files to make, but when I make, I get: cards.c:191: fatal error: opening dependency file .deps/cards.Tpo: Permission denied
[08:39] <dxdt> silox: Eclipse is generally used I think as __the__ java editor in GNU+Linux.  I use VIM personally, but that is probably a bit more hands on then you want
[08:39] <erUSUL> julz: yes
[08:39] <aftertaf> mao42: tru sudo make.....
[08:39] <stupidgirl> mao42, #alsa ppl are really nice
[08:39] <mao42> stupidgirl: And very, very idle
[08:40] <dxdt> #archlinux people are jerks for the record
[08:40] <silox> dxdt: Im looking for a small graphical editor...
[08:40] <tarntow> haru: thx
[08:40] <mao42> aftertaf: That was with sudo make
[08:40] <stupidgirl> lol dxdt so are #sabayon :P
[08:40] <tarntow> guillem: thx
[08:40] <dxdt> mmm Eclipse is good.  Vim is tiny, but takes some learning.
[08:40] <tarntow> dxdt: thx
[08:40] <julz> erUSL, and ubuntu will enjoy that? it will work on ubuntu?
[08:40] <smmagic> Is there anyway to stream a video? It never seems to work
[08:40] <erUSUL> silox: gedit? Scite?
[08:40] <dena> hey my gutsy install isn't seeing my network printers... anyone know what i should do?
[08:40] <silox> erUSUL: can u link gedit with javac?
[08:40] <dxdt> stupidgirl: I could see that.  I bet a lot of people that are there are people from #gentoo with attitude problems.
[08:41] <godfodder> heys :)
[08:41] <stupidgirl> dxdt, fo really. elitist cretins
[08:41] <mao42> aftertaf: Wait, just kidding, I thought I used sudo
[08:41] <mistone> Vim is horrible
[08:41] <Ademan> tarntow: also ls -Al | awk '{print $8, $5}'     :-)
[08:41] <dxdt> I mean I wasn't even asking what I would call simple questions and they were being mean.  Like I was asking questions about hand configuring KDM and such... it was silly.
[08:41] <dxdt> mistone: Blasphemy
[08:41] <mistone> madness
[08:41] <mistone> SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[08:41] <Ademan> mistone: don't start an editor war...
[08:41] <silox> I would like to have a small java editor with a consol for compiling and ability to run the java program/class directly from the program - just like ex. Textpad
[08:41] <mao42> aftertaf: Earlier, it would throw that error if I used it or not :P
[08:42] <mistone> its not that bad
[08:42] <dxdt> mistone: lulz you beat me to it.  I was going to do that.  You have to wait for me to be like "Madness???"
[08:42] <haru> silox, xemacs
[08:42] <godfodder> i just downloaded Xchat and i'm wondering how to set it up so i can use the same nick in different channels
[08:42] <erUSUL> silox: dunno never tried but it has a few plugins to do "advanced" things try it out is the default gnome editor and is installed by default
[08:42] <mao42> Sweet, installed.
[08:42] <Lejak> buongiorno
[08:42] <haru> godfodder, settings.. preferences
[08:42] <godfodder> i don't know how to change the fonts either
[08:43] <silox> erUSUL: Yeah, Gedit is a great Editor - but i would like to have a inbuilt consol too - I found a program once - but cant remember its name :/
[08:43] <Lejak> c'è qualcuno che potrebbe aiutarmi riguardo il firewall?
[08:43] <Korg> ig ogt a headache from ubuntu... any help?
[08:43] <Ademan> !ask | Korg
[08:43] <ubotu> Korg: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:43] <dgjones> !it | Lejak
[08:43] <ubotu> Lejak: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:43] <tarntow> ademan: apparently a trash file with the .local file has 19G of data...how do i go about delete that?
[08:43] <sandaker> connect irc.quakenet.org
[08:43] <Korg> !headache
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about headache - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <Korg> nope
[08:43] <Lejak> thank you
[08:43] <Ademan> tarntow: rm -Rf .Trash/*
[08:44] <Ademan> tarntow: or at least that's what i'd do
[08:44] <Korg> well it probably is the scotsch from yesterday
[08:44] <erUSUL> silox: well... try emacs *the* $EDITOR in unix ;)
[08:44] <Ademan> tarntow: although i'm not sure i understand the situation, you've got .local inside of .Trash?
[08:44] <n2diy_> scotcsh?
[08:44] <stupidgirl> yum
[08:44] <tarntow> ademan: does files always get trapped there? i m sure i always delete stuff
[08:44] <godfodder> nope, still can't find the settings darnit
[08:44] <nevion_> anyone know when CONFIG_NO_HZ will be enabled for x86_64?  Its been available for a few months from what I've read
[08:44] <Korg> balvenie
[08:45] <tarntow> ademan: cheers
[08:45] <erUSUL> silox: http://jdee.sunsite.dk/
[08:45] <haru> nevion_, i do not
[08:45] <aftertaf> mao42: twilight zone things happen ;)
[08:45] <Ademan> tarntow: did it work?
[08:45] <askvictor> Is there a way to 're-use' .deb's that have upgraded one computer to upgrade another?
[08:45] <silox> erUSUL: I dont like emacs :P I would like a more "graphical" clean editor - sorry to be so annoying =)
[08:45] <n2diy_> nevion_: that sounds dangerous?
[08:45] <haru> askvictor, try making ur own repository
[08:45] <dxdt> xemacs then?
[08:45] <dxdt> heh
[08:45] <julz> does anyone know a good tool for writing to an ext3 partition with windows?
[08:45] <Slart> askvictor: you could install a deb-cache and make the next computer use that..
[08:45] <Ademan> emacs hurts my fingers, i've never had flexible fingers
[08:45] <askvictor> haru: that sounds hard and I'm lazy
[08:46] <dxdt> I'm a vim person.  Vim for life.  Swap two lines in just 3 keystrokes.  Beat that for laziness
[08:46] <haru> askvictor, or just copy .deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives from one comp to another
[08:46] <nevion_> I'd go compile .23 myself but I don't have the energy to deal with all the drivers I need anymore... not as young as I used to be :-)
[08:46] <Slart> askvictor: I guess you could burn them to a cd/dvd and tell the next computer to use that.. but I don't know if that requires something special.. like folders, special files etc
[08:46] <tarntow> ademan: no
[08:46] <haru> askvictor, alternately use apt-proxy
[08:46] <askvictor> haru: that sounds more like it. There's no database that keeps track of what's there?
[08:46] <dxdt> I tried to start an Emacs vs VI flamewar with my LUG and it didn't work because everyone said VIM :(  so there was no argument
[08:47] <tarntow> ademan: will try to do it from disk analyser
[08:47] <dena> hey my gutsy install isn't seeing my network printers... anyone know what i should do?
[08:47] <haru> askvictor, not afaik
[08:47] <mao42> dxdt: ownt
[08:47] <Ademan> tarntow:    rm -Rf `ls -A ~/.Trash`    then
[08:47] <pramz> dena, what kind of network printers ?
[08:47] <Ademan> dxdt: apparently carpal tunnel isn't in style anymore lol
[08:47] <pramz> dena, as in are they ip based printers? samba printer shares ?
[08:47] <haru> anyone know how to fix no sound problem with flash in firefox, i have tried editing the firefoxrc for aoss and alsa and oss in vain ... :(
[08:47] <guh> !pastebin
[08:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:47] <Korg> vim... sounds like a cleaning fuid?
[08:47] <p34ce> hi ive downloaded ubuntu 7.1 last night and am now at a loss of how to install it?
[08:48] <dena> pramz, both are ip based printers one brother and one hp
[08:48] <Korg> am lazy too... what vim?
[08:48] <haru> p34ce, desktop cd or alternate install?
[08:48] <pramz> dena, have you tried manually adding them using the printers dialog ?
[08:48] <p34ce> desktop
[08:48] <dxdt> Don't get me wrong, I'm a vim person, but I wanted to start the flamewar for fun and everyone was just like "VIm rocks.  "vim is perfect"  etc.
[08:48] <haru> p34ce, burn and boot to cd. click isntall on desktop
[08:48] <pramz> dxdt, vim rocks, it will even do your laundry
[08:48] <dena> pramz, couldn't figure out how... i have the ip but that's all i know.
[08:48] <Korg> ah ok
[08:48] <Ademan> p34ce: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ThtSFMoEdjY  it's a different version, but it should be identical
[08:48] <thr1lljockey> why on earth do i have to have an initrd to boot a custom monolithic kernel?
[08:49] <pramz> dxdt, hmm maybe im too old to start a good vim vs emacs flamewar
[08:49] <zoidberg_> hey guys can vlc play .wmv files?
[08:49] <esperegu> Anyone knows why XRANDR might be 'not selecting the default resolution'? If I run xrandr -s 0 it selects the one I need.. I thought that should happen automaticly.
[08:49] <Ademan> zoidberg_: yes
[08:49] <pramz> zoidberg_, some anyway
[08:49] <p34ce> k so how do u burn on ubuntu?
[08:49] <The_Bystander> julz: This tool can read-write to Ext3 filesystems from Windows; however, you get no features beyond those present in ext2. http://www.fs-driver.org/
[08:49] <The_Bystander> Beyond that, I know of nothing.
[08:49] <dxdt> zoidberg_: yes and no.  Newest ones can sometimes be choppy, older versions of the wmv play the best.  For the most part, yes.
[08:49] <haru> p34ce, on linux use gnomebaker or k3b, on windows use nero or something
[08:49] <pramz> dena, Administration -> Printing and then click on new printer
[08:50] <n2diy_> thrilljockey" maybe they would know in #ununtud-kernel?
[08:50] <p34ce> k im on old linix
[08:50] <salmouta> good morning, i installed ubuntu gutsy on my laptop but i have a problem in wifi, the result of iwconfig is : lo no wireless extensions and eth0 no wireless extensions. Thanks for more information
[08:50] <dena> pramz, then ipp?
[08:50] <julz> The_Bystander, so that can write to ext3? all i need is to write files to an ext3 disc, is this suitable?
[08:50] <pramz> dena, then it should see the hp printer at least, or you can add it manually
[08:50] <mao42> Eeewww, writing to ext3 in Windows? Are there laws against that? Hanging offense IIRC.
[08:50] <thr1lljockey> n2diy_: i didn't even know that channel existed! doh!    thanks! hehe
[08:50] <pramz> dena, for the hp printer you can select appsocket/hp jetdirect
[08:50] <n2diy_> thrilljockey" uhuntud-kernel?
[08:50] <dxdt> salmouta: you need to give us more info.  What hardware?  Do you happen to know what kind of wireless?  What laptop brand and model?  Stuffs like that.
[08:50] <zoidberg_> dxdt, i'm trying to play this.wmv from this website and i'm suing the firefox mediaplayerconnectivy plugin but vlc popsup but wont play it?
[08:51] <Kazz> p34ce: If you already have Ubuntu installed, you can just upgrade over the internet without burning a CD, but you can burn a CD too if you want, with something like GnomeBaker which may be under "Applications > Sound & Video > CD/DVD Writer GnomeBaker" if you have it installed.
[08:51] <n2diy_> thrilljockey" GL.
[08:51] <The_Bystander> julz: Yes, it can do that. You won't get journalling, though, so there is a chance of corruption if you lose power, etc.
[08:51] <dxdt> zoidberg_: oooh..  I dunno.  I have bad luck with stuffs over the net so I'm not a good person to ask.  If I were you I would try to download the file and see if it would then play.  If it doesn't there, you might get more info at least.
[08:51] <The_Bystander> Etx3 is backwards compatible with ext2.
[08:51] <ook_male> how is to modify menus inside Applications (taskbar)?
[08:51] <[chr0n0s]]> [chr0n0s]],
[08:51] <Kazz> If you don't have it installed, install it or some other similar package.  I'm sure there are a dozen ways to burn a CD in Linux. ;)
[08:52] <The_Bystander> Ext3, rather.
[08:52] <dxdt> ook_male: System >> Preferences >> Main Menu
[08:52] <ook_male> thansk
[08:52] <p34ce> were can i download gnomebaker or k3b,
[08:52] <dena> pramz,  thanks
[08:52] <dxdt> p34ce: use synaptic under System >> Synaptic
[08:52] <dgjones> p34ce, you can get them via synaptic
[08:52] <pramz> dena, np :)
[08:52] <julz> The_Bystander, sweet that shouldnt be a problem then. thanks:) i was just confused i though it would work tih ext2 but not ext 3. thanks for your help :)
[08:52] <ChanibaL> Hi, did anyone have problems with java after upgrading to 7.10? It works in firefox, eclipse 3.2, but eclipse 3.3 says i do not have java. I thought it was a eclipse issue, but actualy i do not have the 'java' command, the command-not-found thingy gives me a list of packages that containt it, but after instaling all the java command is still missing.
[08:52] <ninnemana> can anyone give me some help with an error regarding compiz, ccsm won't load?
[08:53] <dxdt> Anyone in here think ZFS will ever come to Linux? I really want!
[08:53] <albech> my pidgin wont start from the menu anymore.. i have to start from terminal with sudo
[08:54] <Kazz> dxdt: There are a lot of people who are interested in it, so I'd have to guess that it will. :)
[08:54] <dxdt> albech: lol whut?  That is weird.  what happens if you do a normal terminal and just do pidgin?  What is the output?
[08:54] <salmouta> my laptop is TOSHIBA A200, pentium dual-core inside, i installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-386 madwifi-tools
[08:54] <pramz> ChanibaL, what does dpkg -l | grep jdk say ?
[08:54] <albech> dxdt: 2 sec
[08:54] <ChanibaL> oh, and /usr/bin/java: broken symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/java'
[08:55] <dystopianray> dxdt, you can use zfs via fuse
[08:55] <strk> where should I report bugs about packages ? thttpd contains a bogus /etc/init.d/thttpd file
[08:55] <pramz> dxdt, probably not until sun releases it under GPL v2 which i doubt they will do
[08:55] <p34ce> im in synaptic wat am i looking for and under wat heading?
[08:55] <strk> in feisty
[08:55] <dxdt> dystopianray: that's horrible!  Do not want.  hahah
[08:55] <ChanibaL> pramz: nothing, no jdks
[08:55] <Ademan> dystopianray: hah!, that's still nigh useless
[08:55] <smmagic> Can someone please help me get video streams to work
[08:55] <dxdt> pramz: that was my thinking.  The license crap will prevent it
[08:55] <ChanibaL> but i'm sure i have a few installed
[08:55] <pramz> ChanibaL, you have to install java
[08:55] <ChanibaL> sun 6 for sure
[08:55] <ChanibaL> pramz: the problem is that i installed it
[08:55] <pramz> ChanibaL, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk or you can install it through synaptic
[08:55] <Ademan> is there any reason why dev's can't reverse engineer zfs? (really more of a reimplementation i suppose)
[08:55] <dystopianray> dxdt, other than through fuse it is unlikely to ever be part of linux unless sun releases the zfs code under the gpl
[08:56] <pramz> ChanibaL, did you install through synaptic or download from sun's site ?
[08:56] <ke-> Anyone here playing Eve Online on Ubuntu?
[08:56] <ChanibaL> aptitude
[08:56] <zoidberg_> does movie player play .wmv files?
[08:56] <Ademan> zoidberg_: yes
[08:56] <Ademan> !restricted | zoidberg_
[08:56] <fabianhoward> I would execpt it doesn't work with my graphics card. fglrx...
[08:56] <ubotu> zoidberg_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:56] <pramz> ChanibaL, what does dpkg -l | grep sun give you ?
[08:56] <albech> dxdt: http://pastebin.org/5667
[08:56] <p34ce> im in synaptic were do i look to burn stuff?
[08:56] <salmouta> the result of iwconfig wlan0 command is No such device
[08:57] <p34ce> wat do i need?
[08:57] <[chr0n0s]]> p34ce, k3b
[08:57] <p34ce>  wat heading is it in?
[08:57] <Optimus55> hey im having a problem. ubuntu shutsdown only sometimes. sometimes everything is normal. others it just shows a green or red blank screen and deosnt even show the ubuntu logo. any suggestions?
[08:57] <dxdt> no idea
[08:57] <skiff> hey guys anyone knows how to make ATI x1950 work in 7.10 with restricted drivers, I tried the forums and nothing works :////
[08:57] <aftertaf> n2diy_: if you have 5 minutes to read my pastebin.....  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41797/  you can teel me if I created this problem with a fix for sth else maybe... ?
[08:57] <Kazz> p34ce: Do a search for CD burn or something, or for GnomeBaker since that's one of the applications.
[08:57] <ChanibaL> pramz: splix  sun-java5-bin  sun-java6-bin  sun-java6-fonts  sun-java6-jre  sun-java6-plugin
[08:58] <ChanibaL> um, no jdk, strange
[08:58] <Ademan> Optimus55: is the screen all crazy and it sorta pulsates? also do you have a mobile geforce card?
[08:58] <ChanibaL> i installed it an hour ago
[08:58] <pramz> ChanibaL, hmmm, try sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[08:58] <albech> dxdt: was that 'no idea' for me?
[08:58] <salmouta> dmesg |grep -i wif => [   16.200000] wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13)
[08:58] <Optimus55> Ademan: yeah i'm on a laptop. running Geforce Go 6150. screen doesnt pulsate, just the whole thing turns green. or red.
[08:58] <ChanibaL> doing it right now, strange because i done it a hour ago too
[08:59] <dxdt> albech: yeah.  I don't see anyting in particular in the log.  Might want to ask #pidgin  see if they know and such
[08:59] <albech> dxdt: thanks
[08:59] <mao42> skiff: I had a lot of difficulty getting them to work properly. I first installed the drivers via the updater with Ubuntu, then used Envy, then made a clean xorg.conf, did a sudo aticonfig --initial, and restarted
[08:59] <sn4keeyez> anybody available to help a noob?
[08:59] <Ademan> Optimus55: hrm, i think i have a *similar* problem, geforce 6600 here, btw, what happens if you go to a tty?  (ctrl+alt+f1  ctrl+alt+f7 to get back)
[08:59] <dstadulis> If there are a series of shell commands that I need to run everytime I boot what's the best method to automatically run them?  how can I format a .txt file to run the commands
[08:59] <dystopianray> !ask sn4keeyez
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask sn4keeyez - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <Ademan> !ask | sn4keeyez
[08:59] <Optimus55> Ademan: leme check... heh
[08:59] <sn4keeyez> ok thanks guys..
[08:59] <skiff> mao42, whats envy?
[08:59] <mao42> skiff: I'm using an x1650, dunno how it'd fair on your card.
[08:59] <dystopianray> !ask | sn4keeyez
[08:59] <ubotu> sn4keeyez: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:00] <salmouta> what's the meaning of this statment?
[09:00] <dgjones> !envy > skiff
[09:00] <qasim> I need to update to gutsy from feisty but am unable to find a good resource on how to achieve that. I want to upgrade to new version remotely from console command...any help?
[09:00] <sn4keeyez> i'm trying to install a wireless card on my new install of ubuntu...
[09:00] <mao42> skiff: A script for installing the latest video drivers
[09:00] <Ademan> envy is evil
[09:00] <dystopianray> sn4keeyez, which wireless card?
[09:00] <sn4keeyez> i don't know how to install a driver for my wireless card...
[09:00] <sn4keeyez> smc 2635
[09:00] <mao42> Ademan: Envy is why I can use compiz-fusion right now
[09:00] <Ademan> skiff: envy is pure evil
[09:00] <skiff> Ademan, lol
[09:00] <dystopianray> sn4keeyez, what wifi chip does it use?
[09:01] <skiff> well thats the only hope Ive got
[09:01] <sn4keeyez> let me look
[09:01] <Ademan> mao42: envy is why i had to reinstall ubuntu 15 days before feisty was released
[09:01] <skiff> mao42, do you mind if I msg you here ?
[09:01] <Ademan> skiff: i disagree have you tried the restricted driver manager?
[09:01] <sn4keeyez> ADMtek ADM8211
[09:01] <ChanibaL> pramz: ok, now i got the jdk, but still no java command
[09:01] <skiff> Ademan, yeah
[09:01] <skiff> black screen
[09:01] <pramz> ChanibaL, ls -l /usr/bin/java gives what ?
[09:01] <Denian> joined the room
[09:01] <ChanibaL> $ file /usr/bin/java    /usr/bin/java: broken symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/java'
[09:01] <mao42> Ademan: The restricted driver manager doesn't use up-to-date drivers
[09:01] <Ademan> skiff: O_o, well, good luck with envy, like i said it ruined one of my systems, and i know it's done it to plenty of other ones
[09:02] <sn4keeyez> I've got the driver on my computer, but i don't know how to install it...
[09:02] <Ademan> mao42: what's wrong with just using the binary installers from the vendor then?
[09:02] <salmouta> qasim:  cd /etc/apt/
[09:02] <sn4keeyez> or add it to the kernel??
[09:02] <salmouta> sed -i 's/feisty/gutsy/g' sources.list;apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:02] <p34ce> hi i cant find the cd burner thing
[09:02] <mao42> skiff: If you want to avoid Envy, try installing from the binary installers directly from AMD ATI
[09:03] <salmouta> qasim:sed -i 's/feisty/gutsy/g' sources.list;apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:03] <skiff> mao42, thas what I did now
[09:03] <Slart> p34ce: gnomebaker or brasero are good cd burners
[09:03] <Optimus56> Ademan: yeh exactly the same. i ctrl alt f1 and got a nice big green as hulk screen
[09:03] <skiff> mao42, unfortunately it didnt work
[09:03] <Optimus56> had to restart
[09:03] <Ademan> Optimus56: you couldn't ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to normal?
[09:03] <Slart> p34ce: there might be some other cd burner application installed by default.. not sure
[09:03] <skiff> mao42, I see UBUNTU loading screen, then the black screen
[09:03] <pramz> ChanibaL, do this
[09:03] <Optimus56> Ademan: no didnt work. did you change your xserver by chance?
[09:04] <skiff> mao42, could it be something to do with the dual monitors?
[09:04] <pramz> ChanibaL, sudo update-java-alternatives -l
[09:04] <flokuehn> does anybody know if the
[09:04] <Ademan> Optimus56: nope, but it sounds like we both have EXTREMELY similar problems, how new are you to ubuntu? because i've had this problem with 2 nvidia drivers so far, but other ones have been fine
[09:04] <ChanibaL> java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[09:04] <ChanibaL> java-gcj 1042 /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj
[09:04] <mao42> skiff: No idea, but try getting just one of them to work for now
[09:04] <pramz> ChanibaL, type sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:04] <pramz> ChanibaL, and select the sun jdk
[09:05] <Optimus56> Ademan: i've been using ubuntu on a desktop with minimal problems since about may this year with 7.04
[09:05] <mao42> Ademan: What's the command for making a new xorg.conf so he can have aticonfig initialize it?
[09:05] <adante> hi, i am trying to install a kernel via make-kpkg, it keeps trying to create an initrd that is really massive, and running out of space
[09:05] <adante> is there a way i can cut it down?
[09:05] <Optimus56> Ademan: now i'm running it on a hp laptop, and its killing me!
[09:05] <Ademan> mao42: i don't remember, i always hand configed lol, but it's gotta be sudo dpkg-reconfigure ati    or something like that
[09:05] <ChanibaL> thanks, pramz it works now
[09:06] <pramz> ChanibaL, np. Enjoy :-)
[09:06] <Kazz> dxdt: If you really want to try ZFS, look up what they're trying to do with FUSE and ZFS.  Unfortunately it doesn't look like it's the best it can be yet, and it may or may not do what you want now, but you may be able to try it out at least. :)
[09:06] <skiff> mao42, I need to restore my old xorg.conf for now lol
[09:06] <Ademan> Optimus56: if I were you i'd try a different driver version, like the new beta driver from nvidia, like i said our problems seem similar, and it seems to be driver related
[09:06] <mao42> skiff: Good idea. ATI cards on linux suck, it's sad.
[09:06] <Ademan> or at least mine is definitely driver related
[09:06] <BUDD}{A> can someone tell me were i can get a older distro of ubuntu that will run on a and 1.5ghz and  128 mbs ram
[09:06] <Ademan> mao42: that's all changing though
[09:06] <|capirra> on windows too
[09:06] <pramz> since ATI released specs
[09:06] <Ademan> BUDD}{A: xubuntu
[09:06] <Optimus56> Ademan: how do i check what nvidia driver i currently have, and how do i upgrade/change to the latest one?
[09:07] <Tom_Kun> okay, I simply can't get any package to be removed, upgraded or installed due to buffer_read(fd) errors
[09:07] <BUDD}{A> what one
[09:07] <xiij> Budd, why not try xubuntu... that is easy on resources
[09:07] <pramz> Optimus56, gutsy comes with the latest stable driver AFAIK
[09:07] <|capirra> even on osx ati kinda sucks :D
[09:07] <KoweSix> doesnt matter, they all run on older systems :p
[09:07] <Tom_Kun> how on earth am I supposed to get this work then? :)
[09:07] <Ademan> BUDD}{A: doesn't matter, xubuntu is made for lower specs computers, i've got it running on a 300mhz 96mb ram computer
[09:07] <mao42> Ademan: So I've heard, hope stuff gets around to being fixed. I wanted to be able to use dual-head for overlay, but there's a bug in the current driver -_-
[09:07] <BUDD}{A> nice thanks
[09:07] <thr1lljockey> adante: call it like this:   INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 make-kpkg kernel_image kernel_headers
[09:07] <n2diy_> aftertaf: repost it please, I lost it in all the traffic?
[09:07] <skiff> mao42, have you followed any guide or something to do what you did I need more detailed instructions
[09:07] <mao42> So, I'm stuck with vista/ubuntu right now
[09:07] <thr1lljockey> that will strip the modules and save space
[09:07] <Ademan> Optimus56: it's quite a pain in the ass, but i could walk you through it
[09:07] <aftertaf> n2diy_: if you have 5 minutes to read my pastebin.....  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41797/  you can teel me if I created this problem with a fix for sth else maybe... ?
[09:07] <aftertaf> :)
[09:07] <BUDD}{A> can i just download the latest one
[09:08] <n2diy_> aftertaf: repost it please, I lost it in all the traffic?
[09:08] <Sevk> I setup vista+xp + ubuntu 7.10
[09:08] <aftertaf> n2diy_: just did :)
[09:08] <pramz> mao42, ewww vista. If you need to use Windows, stick with XP till Vista SP1 comes out :-)
[09:08] <KoweSix> whats the common c/c++ compiler/debugger for gnome? Oo
[09:08] <Optimus56> pramz: you know. if i upgrade, will it upgrade the vif driver as well? i tried to do the gutsy upgrade the night it release but servers were bogged. i dont want to.. but i think i might jus back up important files and start with a fresh gutsy 64bit install
[09:08] <pramz> Optimus56, I would assume to, but I did a clean install and kept my old /home and /opt
[09:08] <Ademan> KoweSix: you mean IDE? there are a ton, anjuta is probably the most used one (for GNOME) but KDevelop is a far better IDE and it will still run on GNOME
[09:08] <mao42> skiff: Just the one on the ubuntu site
[09:09] <n2diy_> aftertaf: it isn't appearing here?
[09:09] <Optimus56> pramz: i had so much trouble getting broadcom wireless and everything to work with this hp laptop... just to boot the live cd was a pain. i'm wondering if i'll have to do the same for gutsy
[09:09] <skiff> mao42, got a link?
[09:09] <Ademan> pramz: /opt? lol, what sort of wizardry were you involved with?
[09:09] <aftertaf> n2diy_:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41797/
[09:09] <Optimus56> pramz: how did you keep the /home and /opt?
[09:09] <Sevk> I installed three systems
[09:09] <pramz> Ademan, i keep my games and music in /opt
[09:09] <KoweSix> i had some issues with making files in KDev at university and at home, so i want another one :p
[09:09] <pramz> Optimus56, i chose to not format it
[09:09] <pramz> Optimus56, I have them on seperate partitions
[09:09] <aftertaf> n2diy_: you get it??
[09:09] <n2diy_> aftertaf: roger, when I find five minutes, I'll look at it.
[09:10] <aftertaf> :)
[09:10] <aftertaf> thx
[09:10] <Optimus56> pramz: i have everything on one ext3 partition except the swap. is there any way to still keep my files?
[09:10] <Ademan> KoweSix: well, you might try Anjuta i guess, there's also eclipse + the cdt but eclipse always seemed slow
[09:10] <adante> thr1lljockey: thanks, what does that do exactly?
[09:10] <pramz> Ademan, as far as wizardry is concerned, that partition does have some old SSI RPG games in it
[09:10] <mao42> Damn xchat
[09:10] <mao42> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:10] <mao42> Try that skiff
[09:10] <KoweSix> Ademan: thanks a lot :)
[09:10] <Ademan> KoweSix: personally i think linux really lacks any good IDEs, but i've grown quite accustomed to using vim
[09:10] <skiff> mao42, ty
[09:11] <pramz> Ademan, kdevelop is pretty good
[09:11] <thr1lljockey> adante: it tells make-kpkg to strip debug info (not useful for end-users) from the modules after it compiles them
[09:11] <thr1lljockey> it saves space
[09:11] <Ademan> KoweSix: no problem, there are a couple other ones, but i can't think of them off the top of my head
[09:11] <BUDD}{A> should i get xubuntu 7.10?
[09:11] <Sevk> I format 2 partitions in windows ,give the 2 part for ubuntu.  format to ext3 to setup ubuntu.
[09:11] <thr1lljockey> and that's about it
[09:11] <pramz> Ademan, not to mention Eclipse and Netbeans
[09:11] <Ademan> pramz: i never liked it much, though i think it's about the best linux has to offer
[09:11] <Ademan> pramz: i mentioned eclipse lol
[09:11] <Ademan> and i didn't realize netbeans did c++
[09:11] <pramz> ahh right
[09:11] <Ademan> KoweSix: by the way, code::blocks runs on linux too, a lot of people like that one
[09:12] <The_Bystander> BUDD}{A: I see no reason why not. YOu have 128 megs of RAM, right? That's all it's supposed to need, during install. After install it should be fine with 64.
[09:12] <pramz> kdevelop i liked. but then again I don't really code in C/C++ anymore so I don't use it. These days its mostly python and the pydev plugin for eclipse is pretty good
[09:12] <BUDD}{A> yep
[09:12] <p34ce> coul you please explain how to install gnomebaker?
[09:12] <BUDD}{A>  great thanks for the help
[09:12] <Ademan> p34ce: type sudo apt-get install   in a terminal
[09:12] <mistone> monodevelop is great for c#
[09:12] <magnetron> p34ce: start applications > add/remove
[09:12] <Optimus56> pramz: is there a way to save the /home and /opt folders if everything is on one partition?
[09:12] <pramz> Ademan, netbeans has plugins for C/C++ i believe, they are coming out with plugins for python and php as well
[09:12] <pramz> Optimus56, no
[09:13] <magnetron> p34ce: start applications > add/remove , then search for baker and check the box in front of it
[09:13] <pramz> Optimus56, unless you do the upgrade instead of a clean install. Upgrade does not reformat
[09:13] <n2diy_> aftertaf: GL, that is all Greek to me.
[09:13] <Ademan> the problem is that for a period i was totally disgusted with every IDE and i started toying with vim and emacs, and now i can't type in non-vim editors lol
[09:13] <aftertaf> GL?
[09:13] <pramz> Optimus56, and u don't need to save /opt unless you store something in it, i have been using /opt as a place to dump all my music and games :)
[09:13] <Optimus56> pramz: so i have to lose all my info... great. i think i'll try the upgrade tomorrow... hope i don't shoot myself in the foot
[09:13] <Bonster> which programs to remap IR remote?
[09:14] <Ademan> Bonster: lirc ?
[09:14] <pramz> Optimus56, my friend upgraded and has not lost anything so I think you should be good :)
[09:14] <Bonster> how u remap the keys?
[09:14] <Ademan> Bonster: config files... its pretty ugly lol
[09:14] <Ademan> Bonster: but you can make it do whatever you want, like literally
[09:14] <Optimus56> Ademan: just out of curiousity, do you get any random freezes as well?
[09:14] <Ademan> it can walk the dog and do your homework if you set it up
[09:14] <ook_male> hello, i already make application auto start when Ubuntu load (after do login), but how to make the application auto minimize ? how to make it auto minimize or close.. because if i click minimize / close, the application will go the the tray (it's Psi - jabber chat client)
[09:14] <Ademan> Optimus56: i had one when i was running compiz-fusion, but i since turned it off
[09:15] <ook_male> is there any additional parametters on command  "psi ???" to make it minimize to tray ?
[09:15] <Ademan> Optimus56: the liveCD hardly ran at all on my laptop though, i had to install through the alternate CD, which i've never had to do since they introduced the liveCD
[09:15] <Bonster> poo
[09:15] <Bonster> tryed those
[09:15] <Ademan> Bonster: depending on your remote there are probably existing config files for it though
[09:15] <n2diy_> aftertaf: GL, good luck.
[09:16] <Bonster> i got it working
[09:16] <Bonster> just i donno how to remap other buttons
[09:16] <Optimus56> Ademan: i also run compiz, but i get random freezes and had no idea where to start troubleshooting. i think my nvidia mobile card, compiz, nvidia driver and xserver-xgl is not the best combo...
[09:16] <Ademan> Bonster i'd try the #lirc channel, they'd know way more than me, unless there are some gurus in here
[09:16] <Bonster> oh alright
[09:16] <p34ce> i wont install
[09:16] <Ademan> Optimus56: ooohh you're using xgl?
[09:17] <aftertaf> lol n2diy_  thx...
[09:17] <aftertaf> ill try the nodma switch anyway..... :)
[09:17] <Ademan> Optimus56: why not use aiglx?
[09:17] <p34ce> it says some thing bout uninstallable
[09:17] <Ademan>  /straight up xorg?
[09:17] <KoweSix> Ademan: mhm i think i'm too stupid to install autogen in order to run anjuta as ide :)
[09:17] <tsukasa> anyone know how to fill this gaping hole in linux known as not having a net-enabled game of spades? or a game of spades period
[09:18] <Tom_Kun> tsukasa, whenever all the other bugs I currently have is worked out :)
[09:18] <livingdaylight> Guys, I've lost ALL sound here in Ubuntu gutsy... is there any way of restoring that?
[09:18] <Ademan> KoweSix: lol, well code::blocks ? i mean lots of people use and like it on windows... so i dunno
[09:18] <Optimus56> Ademan: yeah. used to get black window bug. went to #compiz. they suggested xgl. no more blackwindows. now i get green screen of shutdown shame, and random freezes :(  hack one solution - break something else...
[09:18] <Optimus56> Ademan: what's aiglx?
[09:18] <Tom_Kun> such as no java working, no way of updating/changing packages due to weird errors from apt, and no office package, since openoffice.org refuses to launch :)
[09:18] <n2diy_> aftertaf: GL,
[09:19] <KoweSix> Ademan: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3593&package_id=3552&release_id=544928 <- which one do i need for ubuntu? :D
[09:19] <Ademan> Optimus56: yeah xgl is never the answer lol.  aiglx is accelerated indirect glx, basically an alternative to xgl for running compiz
[09:19] <ashu> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[09:19] <Ademan> KoweSix: none :-p, gimme one sec
[09:19] <Optimus56> Ademan: using indirect rendering, is it slower than glx?
[09:19] <ashu> i have a problem...does amarok run in ubuntu (not kubuntu)?
[09:19] <Whisperkiller> how do i update wine to 47 from 46?
[09:20] <Ademan> Optimus56: don't think so, and iirc xgl had trouble with running 3d games
[09:20] <x_> what's command line to get BERYL for 7.10 in terminal ?!
[09:20] <Optimus56> Ademan: okay, so now i want to try aiglx... how do i switch from xgl to aiglx?
[09:20] <Ademan> Whisperkiller: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[09:20] <Ademan> Optimus56: i honeslty don't know, i never touched xgl, you might try in #ubuntu-effects
[09:21] <ashu> x_: gutsy has compiz fusion by default i don't know why you want beryl
[09:21] <Optimus56> Ademan: and do you know if it still solves black window bug?
[09:21] <p34ce> if gnomebaker is in the file "home" wats its location? (like c:/were am i?)
[09:21] <Ademan> Optimus56: no you'd still get the black window bug, but if you upgrade your driver THAT will get rid of the black window bug
[09:21] <x_> ashu  oops ... i didn't know .... so where is it ?!
[09:21] <livingdaylight> I have lost ALL sound. Is there a way of restoring this?
[09:21] <Ademan> p34ce: what's gnomebaker's location?
[09:21] <ashu> x_ i am not sure but look in system > prefernces or administration
[09:21] <p34ce> i put it the folder home
[09:22] <Optimus56> Ademan: i've read some people still get the black window bug with the new drivers. just you get to open more windows before it happens
[09:22] <Ademan> put what?
[09:22] <darmou> Hi all does anyone know a channel for ubuntu on a mac pro? Is this one ok to ask questions?
[09:22] <p34ce> gnomebaker
[09:22] <ashu> x_: by the way do you know if amarok runs in Ubuntu (not kubuntu)?
[09:22] <Ademan> Optimus56: hrm, i didn't run into it myself, but i really HATE xgl so i'd rather take the black window bug over xgl but that's just me lol
[09:22] <KoweSix> Ademan: got it installed, works now -.- dunno why tho :D
[09:22] <ashu> x_: ubuntu 7.04
[09:23] <Ademan> p34ce: what system are you on? and what are you trying to do?
[09:23] <x_> ashu  oh   yes ... i can see it ..... ... ... i have ubuntu too , i using amarok
[09:23] <Ademan> KoweSix: oh crap, i thought we were talking about code::blocks
[09:23] <ashu> x_: thanks
[09:23] <x_> ashu ... yes yes  it runs on 7.04
[09:23] <KoweSix> ;D
[09:23] <ashu> amarok is cool but i wasn't aure if it would run in ubuntu
[09:23] <p34ce> im trying to install gnomebaker to burn ubuntu7.10 to install it cause im running ubuntu5.10
[09:23] <Optimus56> Ademan: nahhhh... that black window bug is REALLLLLLLY annoying. realllly. your window shows fine... press the maximize button and boom..... blackness. its bad, because you have to constantly monitor how many open windows you have. and minimize some so you can open others... its terrible
[09:24] <pramz> ashu, as long as the required libraries are installed, it will
[09:24] <x_> ashu  u suing 7.04 or 7.10 ?!
[09:24] <Ademan> Optimus56: lol, yeah
[09:24] <ashu> pramz: ok thanks
[09:24] <Ademan> p34ce: ok, so you ran sudo apt-get install gnomebaker ?
[09:24] <thr1lljockey> adante: any luck?
[09:24] <livingdaylight> Can someone advise me on sound? I gotz none whatsoever - broken. Cani restore or not?
[09:24] <p34ce> wat is that?
[09:24] <ashu> x_: 7.04
[09:24] <Ademan> Optimus56: that's probably part of why i just live without compiz for the moment
[09:24] <eyeRmonkey> Question: When I run "avanat-window-navigator" I get this error: "bash: /usr/local/bin/avant-window-navigator: No such file or directory" ... I've tried removing and installing it again, but the error persists. What should i do?
[09:24] <Ademan> p34ce: it installs gnomebaker
[09:24] <ashu> x_: i hav ordered 7.10 cds
[09:25] <p34ce> so were do fnd it?
[09:25] <Ademan> eyeRmonkey: did you build it yourself?
[09:25] <Ademan> p34ce: did you run the command i just showed you?
[09:25] <adante> thr1lljockey: still rebuilding the kernel now, i'll let you know :]
[09:25] <guuuuh> can anyone help me with a simple question about iptables?
[09:25] <p34ce> pleas sho it again
[09:25] <livingdaylight> hELLO?!
[09:26] <ashu> x_: ok bye got to go now..
[09:26] <eyeRmonkey> Ademan: err. sort of. i downloaded it. then started doing awn curves. then gave up and ran "sudo make uninstall"
[09:26] <adante> beh, trackerd running amok again
[09:26] <Ademan> p34ce: sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[09:26] <x_> ashu   bye  :-)
[09:26] <Optimus56> Ademan: the truth is, besides the effects, compiz really enhances my productivity. its much easier to manage windows. i really cant use ubuntu without it. especially the effect that shows all open windows with just a mouse gesture. i'm going to try upgrading to gutsy. i hope that will solve some problems
[09:26] <p34ce> k 1 sec
[09:27] <x_> who using COMPIZ FUSION on 7.10 ?!
[09:27] <p34ce> its askin 4 p wrd but it wont let me typw
[09:27] <p34ce> *type
[09:27] <Optimus56> night
[09:27] <Ademan> Optimus56: yeah well gutsy will automatically hook you up with a new nvidia driver, which may fix your problem, and get rid of the black window bug for you (i honestly never ran into it on gutsy, maybe i was just lucky, but i mean, i used to get it in just 4 windows on feisty, and i never ran into it on gutsy... so i'm pretty confident)
[09:27] <Ademan> aw crap
[09:27] <albech> guuuuh: just ask the question.. dont ask if anyone can help
[09:27] <Ademan> p34ce: you can type but you just can't see it
[09:27] <guuuuh> yeah, i know, but its off-topic, thats why ;P
[09:27] <p34ce> the cursore isnt moveing
[09:28] <Ademan> guuuuh: #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[09:28] <guuuuh> i need to route connections from eth1 to eth0
[09:28] <Ademan> p34ce: like i said, you can't see it
[09:28] <p34ce> i typed my p wrd in but this came up
[09:28] <p34ce>  sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[09:28] <p34ce> wait
[09:28] <albech> guuuuh: you have 1 LAN and 1 WAN interface?
[09:28] <guuuuh> 2 lans
[09:28] <p34ce> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:28] <p34ce> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:29] <Ademan> p34ce: do you have synaptic package manager open?
[09:29] <albech> and you want to make a route between the 2 lans?
[09:29] <guuuuh> my server has two nics, one of them is connected with another computer (client), the other is connect to wan
[09:29] <p34ce> i tryed that but a differnt error came up
[09:29] <eyeRmonkey> Ademan: is there any way for me remove the error about "avant-window-manager" not existing and just reinstall AWN from scratch?
[09:29] <guuuuh> i want to route the client to wan
[09:29] <Raph> hi all, is someone can tell me howto resolve the black splash boot ?
[09:29] <Ademan> eyeRmonkey: when exactly does the error occur? just when you try to run it or what?
[09:30] <Ademan> !usplash | Raph
[09:30] <ubotu> Raph: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[09:30] <Ademan> Raph: hopefully that will help
[09:30] <eyeRmonkey> Ademan: yep. all i do is try to run it from the terminal and it tells me "bash: /usr/local/bin/avant-window-navigator: No such file or directory"
[09:30] <Raph> Ademan: i think it is a bug on 64bits archi !
[09:31] <Ademan> eyeRmonkey: can you verify that the file in fact doesn't exist there?
[09:31] <albech> guuuuh: PM
[09:31] <p34ce> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:31] <p34ce> thn
[09:31] <eyeRmonkey> Ademan: oddly, the only thing listed in "/usr/local/bin" is "awn-manager"
[09:31] <p34ce> Could not download all repository indexes
[09:31] <p34ce> The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.
[09:31] <Ademan> p34ce: oh maybe that's cause it's no longer supported
[09:31] <livingdaylight> hELLO
[09:31] <zheng> hi
[09:32] <Ademan> eyeRmonkey: have you installed anything else from source?
[09:32] <p34ce> im not thats why im trying to install 7.10
[09:32] <livingdaylight> Sound on my Gutsy is broken
[09:32] <nicholaspaul> does it help if i make the swap partition bigger? Does ubuntu care?
[09:32] <Madpilot> p34ce, then there's something wrong with your sources.list
[09:32] <livingdaylight> anyway of restoring sound?
[09:32] <Ademan> eyeRmonkey: if you haven't    eyeRmonkey: and generally you can do sudo rm -Rf /usr/local/*           will clear EVERYTHING you installed from source, which may be what you want right now
[09:32] <p34ce> how can i install 7.10 that ive allredy downloaded
[09:33] <nicholaspaul> p34ce: did you download an iso?
[09:33] <Ademan> Madpilot: are you sure it's not just cause the repositories for 5.10 just don't exist anymore?
[09:33] <Madpilot> p34ce, you need to burn the ISO to a CD, then just run the CD
[09:33] <eyeRmonkey> Ademan: Like i said, the one thing I started to install from source (and only got half way through the many different parts that needed compiling), I gave up and did "sudo make uninstall". Then I tried removing things from synaptic (that i installed using synaptic) and resintalling everyting from scratch from synaptic.
[09:33] <Bonster> hammer to PC
[09:33] <Madpilot> Ademan, likely, yes, now that I think about it.
[09:33] <livingdaylight> hELLO?
[09:33] <nicholaspaul> hello
[09:34] <Ademan> eyeRmonkey: well then i'd run the command i gave you, it should totally clear out avant window navigator, and leave you with a clean slate for things installed from source
[09:34] <livingdaylight> CAn someone tell me whether i can restore my broken sound on gutsy?
[09:34] <nicholaspaul> anyone know if a larger swap partition helps?
[09:34] <Ademan> nicholaspaul: depends
[09:34] <nicholaspaul> livingdaylight: you prob. can. Depends on what may be broken
[09:34] <Bonster> swap is just double the size of ur ram
[09:34] <Ademan> nicholaspaul: how much swap do you have right now?
[09:34] <Bonster> unless u got enough ram
[09:34] <Bonster> then u dont need much
[09:34] <eyeRmonkey> Ademan: well i don't actually want to install AWN from source. they have a gutsy repo. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981 ....  I'll go try installing it from the repo again
[09:35] <Ademan> nicholaspaul: how much actual ram do you need?
[09:35] <Ademan> eyeRmonkey: good luck
[09:35] <eyeRmonkey> Ademan: ;) i'll need it. :D
[09:35] <tony53> CIAO
[09:35] <nicholaspaul> Ademan: lol well, i have 512 in a PowerBook G3, so i'm good.
[09:35] <Ademan> nicholaspaul: i actually meant how much do you have lol
[09:35] <Raph> Ademan: the splash is great on 32bit gutsy version but i think it s a 64 bits verion probleme, think you so ?
[09:36] <Ademan> nicholaspaul: ah, yeah 2gb of swap space would be plenty for you really, what are you doing with it that you need so much more swap?
[09:36] <nicholaspaul> livingdaylight: try different apps. It could be settings in the mixer, try right clicking the speaker icon and playing with preferences
[09:36] <p34ce> ive just dragged the folder to the cd shud it work now to install 7.10?
[09:36] <Ademan> Raph: you're probably right, but i'm 100% inexperienced with 64 bit
[09:36] <tony53> !list please
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about list please - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <nicholaspaul> Ademan: nothing much - email, surfing. I was just cursiou! :)
[09:36] <nicholaspaul> or even curious
[09:36] <livingdaylight> nicholaspaul, no apps have sound and no it s nothing with volume mixer
[09:37] <Bonster> go to sound
[09:37] <Ademan> nicholaspaul: yeah 5gb is way overkill, i always go for overkill though, which for you would probably be around 2gb
[09:37] <nicholaspaul> which apps?
[09:37] <Raph> Ademan: :(, thanks, cu !
[09:37] <Bonster> and make it autodetect
[09:37] <p34ce> well ima giv it a go with anny luck ill b on ubuntu 7.10 in a bit
[09:37] <nicholaspaul> Ademan: yea i wouldnt go for 5Gb lol
[09:37] <eyeRmonkey> Ademan: Sadly, i'm still getting that error when I run "avant-window-manager" ... this is silly. it thinks it's a command (it auto completes it for me) but then it goes to run ti can can't find it .... why is it even looking there for it as a command. it should be looking in a different /bin directory for it. shouldn't it?
[09:37] <nicholaspaul> Ademan thanks for the tips
[09:38] <nicholaspaul> livingdaylight: sorry, i'm not sure what might be wrong.
[09:38] <Ademan> eyeRmonkey: i don't know why it thinks it exists
[09:38] <Ademan> eyeRmonkey: unless there's a link somewhere, for instance in /usr/bin
[09:38] <livingdaylight> Anyone else?
[09:39] <maniac_x> p34ce: you should have a file named <filename>.iso  you need to burn that  .iso file as a image in the burning software.  that will burn you a bootable disc
[09:39] <x_> anyone can help me about compiz fusion on 7.10 ?!  it's not working
[09:39] <Ademan> eyeRmonkey: you might try  this   find / -iname 'avant-window-manager'     and see if it shows you any locations
[09:39] <nicholaspaul> livingdaylight: anytime.
[09:39] <Ademan> x_: #ubuntu-effects
[09:39] <flokuehn> does anybody know if the HIS HD2600XT IceQ Turbo works with ubuntu?
[09:39] <esjay> Is there anyone on that I can ask some incredibly beginner level questions to...I have read faqs and searched online for the answers without success
[09:39] <Ademan> !ask esjay
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask esjay - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <Ademan> !ask | esjay
[09:39] <ubotu> esjay: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:39] <livingdaylight> Anyone know about sound in Ubuntu? Its totally broken here
[09:39] <eyeRmonkey> Ademan: good idea :)
[09:40] <AndrewB> !sound | livingdaylight (This may help)
[09:40] <ubotu> livingdaylight (This may help): If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:40] <livingdaylight> AndrewB, that doesn't help
[09:40] <esjay> so....this is my first ubuntu install...In the wireless networks menu..the one that shows available networks for me to connect to...there are two icons i see
[09:40] <livingdaylight> i've already verified AlsaMixer
[09:40] <esjay> one is of what looks like a satelite..and the other is two pcs
[09:41] <esjay> should i assume that if i see a satelite icon that it will be web or wpa?
[09:41] <Ademan> KoweSix: http://lgp203.free.fr/spip/spip.php?article1   should have debs for code::blocks   http://forums.codeblocks.org/index.php/topic,7147.0.html    contains the rest of the debs, hopefully you can find one for your release if you need it
[09:41] <esjay> and the two pcs icon is not an actual wifi network
[09:42] <livingdaylight> dayam... gonna have to reinstall Ubuntu all over again
[09:42] <esjay> and ..if there is no icon before the signal strength..should i assume that is a network with no security?
[09:42] <Ademan> esjay: yes
[09:42] <Ademan> or at least, that's my understanding
[09:42] <p34ce> nah that didnt wrk
[09:42] <Ademan> (and my experience)
[09:42] <jscinoz> hey guys, im trying to add a repository, however after adding it, "sudo apt-get update" fails with a multiple line error (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1234/) how can i fix this?
[09:43] <phlip> I just upgraded to Gutsy, and now no partitions other than the root will mount
[09:43] <esjay> k..newbie question number 2...I just added some software thru the synaptic package manager...all packages were added successfully, but i can't find them anywhere...is there a specific location they go to once installed
[09:43] <phlip> I get "/dev/hda2 already mounted or /home busy"
[09:43] <Ademan> jscinoz: sorta looks liek the problem has nothing to do with the new repository, but i could be wrong, looks more like a corrupted deb you already have installed
[09:43] <phlip> neither of which is the case
[09:44] <dxdt> esjay: depends on the program.  Most are in the menus
[09:44] <Ademan> jscinoz: but unfortunately it's late and i need to get sleep
[09:44] <preston> i just installed a 2 week old copy of gutsy release canidate and updated with over a hundred updates, im just wanting to make sure i have the final release now
[09:44] <Ademan> gnight everyone
[09:44] <preston> night
[09:44] <Cyber_Stalker> i have just used sudo apt-get install apache2, can some one direct me to the directorys that i will find the config files in and anything i need to edit? thank you
[09:44] <dxdt> esjay: you can always try which prognam at a terminal to find out more as well
[09:44] <jscinoz> Ademan, no its definately to do with the repo, if i comment out its lines in /etc/apt/sources.list the error doesnt occur
[09:44] <p34ce> ok it says wen i open cd that im in cd/dvd creator - file browser
[09:44] <dxdt> Cyber_Stalker: /etc/apache2  and also /var/www are where you want to play
[09:44] <p34ce> but wen i click write to disc
[09:44] <Ademan> jscinoz: yeah then you're right, but yeah sorry i gotta get some shut eye
[09:44] <Cyber_Stalker> thank you dxdt
[09:44] <esjay> dxdt: say i just installed aircrack for example...how would i go about finding that in a terminal
[09:45] <jscinoz> thanks anyway
[09:45] <jscinoz> afk for dinner, maybe someone will know by the time i get back
[09:45] <Greencookie> Question about evolution: How do I sync it with my Google calendar?
[09:45] <dxdt> esjay: which aircrack would be my first try
[09:45] <esjay> k testing
[09:45] <preston> anyone?
[09:45] <dxdt> actually just running the command "aircrack" would probably be my first try
[09:45] <p34ce> no files selected You need to copy the files you want to write to disc to the CD/DVD Creator window.
[09:45] <Cyber_Stalker> dxdt: can i use chown on the folders so that i can edit them easily from my account instead of it giving me issues with it being under root?
[09:45] <esjay> dxdt: command not found
[09:46] <esjay> is there some default directory where apps go when installed?  or is it app dependent
[09:46] <skiffx> Ademan, how do I install envy ?
[09:46] <p34ce> then ive got to chosse open cd/dvd creator or close but it just opens another window
[09:46] <maniac_x> p34ce: what did not work?  if you just drag/dropped that folder and had it burn, that will not work.  the file you want to burn should be .iso file
[09:47] <eyeRmonkey> Question: After about 20 minutes of using Gutsy, my fans start running at 100% and don't stop. any way to fix this?
[09:47] <p34ce> ohh i c
[09:47] <dxdt> esjay: might want to just start typing air and the press tab and see if tab completion does anything
[09:47] <jacquesmerde> hylinux: did it work?
[09:47] <dxdt> or suggests anything
[09:47] <p34ce> so just the 3 programs in the file?
[09:47] <esjay> k..thanks
[09:47] <ook_male> what is application name that use icon blue piranha? i ever see this icon on my friend linux tray
[09:48] <esjay> dxdt..that did it..thanks
[09:48] <p34ce> kool
[09:48] <p34ce> cya ill try now!
[09:48] <skiffx> guys doesnt any1 know how to install envy ?
[09:48] <nicholaspaul> skiffx: sudo apt-get install envy
[09:48] <cafuego> WHy don't you just install nvidia-glx-new?
[09:49] <skiffx> nicholaspaul, nope doesnt find envy
[09:49] <dgjones> !envy | skiffx, Envy isn't supported within the #ubuntu channel because it can cause problems
[09:49] <ubotu> skiffx, Envy isn't supported within the #ubuntu channel because it can cause problems: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[09:49] <dxdt> yeah envy is kinda outdated nowadays.  It is so easy to do drivers and such anyway
[09:49] <preston> whats the password for su
[09:49] <adante> thr1lljockey: seems to have worked, thanks!
[09:49] <hylinux> Jacquesmerde: didn't work. :(
[09:49] <cafuego> There isn't one. Use 'sudo' instead.
[09:49] <skiffx> dgjones, yeah I know, unfortunately, I have no choice but to try it
[09:49] <thr1lljockey> adante: cool!
[09:49] <Cyber_Stalker> dxdt: can i use chown on the folders so that i can edit them easily from my account instead of it giving me issues with it being under root?
[09:50] <skiffx> dgjones, can you suggest on how to install it?
[09:50] <preston> i want to be able to save my xorg settings but i have to do it as root
[09:50] <jacquesmerde> hylinux: i finally got the splash screen working
[09:50] <dorian_> Can anyone tell me how to enable mp3s
[09:50] <cafuego> !restricted
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:50] <dorian_> rather, I want to burn mp3's into an audio cd but obviously
[09:50] <nicholaspaul> skiffx: http://lunapark6.com/envy-easy-way-to-install-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu.html
[09:50] <cafuego> Install those, insert a blank cd, choose "Audio cd" and drag mp3s to the disk.
[09:51] <skiffx> nicholaspaul, thnx
[09:51] <dorian_> I got k3b
[09:51] <dgjones> skiffx, i can't, i only used it once & ended up doing a full reinstall to avoid the problems it caused with updates
[09:51] <adante> thr1lljockey: after rebootingi guess i will have to reinstall my nvidia drivers - is it safe for me to just reboot and configure now or do i need to do stuff beforehand?
[09:51] <preston> nicholaspaul was that for me
[09:51] <dxdt> Cyber_Stalker: generally that isn't done.  Usually what is done instead is to give them to a group like www-data and then add yourself to that group.  I'm totally clear on this stuff cause I usually just use sudo a lot, but I think that will work.  Check top in a terminal to see what user apache is running as and then chown them to that
[09:51] <nicholaspaul> i make mp3 CDs with just 'Data' options. They play in my truck perfectly
[09:51] <dxdt> would be my best guess.
[09:51] <nicholaspaul> preston.. erm, if you need it sure :)
[09:51] <hylinux> jacquesmerde: really? how to do that?
[09:51] <hylinux> thanks
[09:51] <thr1lljockey> adante: once you install the .deb packages, you can reboot no problem
[09:52] <WindsofTime> =D
[09:52] <cafuego> nicholaspaul: Provided yer player supports that, most audio cd players don't.
[09:52] <hylinux> jacquesmerde: hi, guys, could you help me about that ?
[09:52] <nicholaspaul> cafuego: true. MP3 player Cds will . I love it :)
[09:52] <dorian_> yeah I guess I could just burn it as a data cd
[09:52] <dorian_> my car plays mp3's too
[09:52] <dorian_> er data
[09:52] <adante> thr1lljockey: alrighty, thanks again, reboot & pray now..
[09:52] <nicholaspaul> dorian_: there ya go :)
[09:52] <jacquesmerde> hylinux: i edited usplash.conf, added a framebuffer in menu.lst then ran update-initram.fs
[09:52] <Cyber_Stalker> thanks dxdt
[09:52] <thr1lljockey> adante: good luck
[09:52] <dxdt> yeah no prob
[09:52] <dorian_> thanks d00ds.
[09:53] <louis> Still dont see why you cant turn mo3 support on...its well easy
[09:53] <nicholaspaul> dorian_: 12 albums on one CD, gotta love it
[09:53]  * nicholaspaul is now known as that guy that sleeps
[09:54] <joerack> Anybody can help me on my problem with "malformed Url" with K3b?
[09:54] <hylinux> jacquesmerde: what's that parameter?
[09:54] <hylinux> jacquesmerde: just add framebuffer=1?
[09:54] <hylinux> or just add framebuffer.
[09:54] <jacquesmerde> vga=791
[09:55] <jacquesmerde> hylinux: ps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/150930
[09:55] <joerack> Anybody can help me on my problem with "malformed Url" with K3b?
[09:56] <hylinux> jacquesmerde: thanks
[09:56] <joerack> I would really like to be able to use K3B
[09:58] <eyeRmonkey> Question: After about 20 minutes of using Gutsy, my fans start running at 100% and don't stop. any way to fix this?
[09:58] <kekZpriester> where do I have to copy certificates for openvpn?
[09:58] <cafuego> eyeRmonkey: Find out what is making your cpu run at 100% and fix it.
[09:58] <cafuego> Well, duh .. or not.
[09:59] <Seveas> kekZpriester, /etc/openvpn or wherever your configfile says they should be
[10:00] <Seveas> cafuego, the fans made his machine take off ;)
[10:00] <eyeRmonkey> Question: How do I remap keys? For example, how do i map a key for the "system monitor" to open?
[10:00] <dxdt> eyeRmonkey: System >> Pref >> keyboard to start and then other things if that won't work for you
[10:01] <johan-_> anyone know if ubuntu 7.04 or 7.10 will work with AMD ATHLON X2 BE-2350 and of the sheapest asus motherboard? Like ASUS M2V-MX
[10:01] <johan-_> along with a couple of sata disks
[10:01] <Seveas> johan-_, there's no reason either of them would not work...
[10:01] <Bonster> whats the command to rename a file?
[10:01] <Seveas> Bonster, mv
[10:02] <Bonster> isnt that move?
[10:02] <eyeRmonkey> dxdt: that doesn't seem to have anything for mapping keys
[10:02] <Seveas> renaming is moving :)
[10:02] <Seveas> mv old_name new_name
[10:02] <Bonster> oh
[10:02] <johan-_> Seveas: the AMD ATHLON X2 BE-2350 is a dualcore 64-bit, will it be able to use both cores and so on... ?
[10:02] <Seveas> johan-_, yup
[10:03] <Seveas> all ubuntu kernels are SMP
[10:03] <johan-_> Seveas: great :) Thanks, don't want to buy stuff that won't work
[10:03] <dxdt> johan-_: yes, I run X2 with both cores
[10:03] <Seveas> johan-_, you can always bring an ubuntu live cd to the store for a test ;)
[10:03] <johan-_> if someone has some better ideas on hardware to by :)
[10:03] <NolanG>  hello. I just installed Ubuntu 7.10, and Compiz is looking great.  My only issue is that when I run WoW, it works fine until I switch desktops.  Then WoW disappears and I can't get back to it.  Any ideas on what's going on?
[10:04] <ComunisTico> hi i got a problem with gutsy that ive just upgraded
[10:04] <johan-_> Seveas: well, will by it on the net and not assembled
[10:04] <Seveas> johan-_, that would indeed make a est rather difficult :)
[10:04] <johan-_> :)
[10:04] <johan-_> indead
[10:04] <ComunisTico> ive isntalled everything alright but when i rebooted i couldnt log on had to startx on the console to be able to ask for help
[10:05] <abuyazan> hello
[10:05] <abuyazan> i am using openoffice 2.3 with ubuntu 7.10, but it cannot convert the odt file to PDF format, it closed and start recovery process
[10:05] <abuyazan> any idea about this please
[10:05] <ozzloy> johan-_: you might try sticking with 32 bit until you actually need 64 bit
[10:06] <Bonster> save as PDF
[10:06] <Bonster> click on Print
[10:06] <Bonster> then print to PDF
[10:06] <abuyazan> the same, i tried but it failed
[10:06] <johan-_> ozzloy: well it's not more expensive, or do you have any cpu in mind?
[10:06] <dxdt> johan-_: I use 64 bit with no problems.  At all.  Everything is really pretty easy.
[10:06] <abuyazan> let me check
[10:06] <johan-_> dxdt: :)
[10:07] <ozzloy> johan-_: it's the software.  generally 3rd party proprietary things assume you're on 32 bit
[10:07] <eyeRmonkey> dxdt: that doesn't seem to have anything for mapping keys
[10:07] <Bonster> out of luck or try update
[10:07] <dxdt> I use 64 bit ubuntu with teh Athlon X2 and I haven't been limited on software yet
[10:07] <zetheroo> I think I way return to Feisty Fawn until Gutsy can get a bit more reliable
[10:07] <johan-_> I admit it's an overkill, the box will take over for my amd k7 but hey :)
[10:07] <ComunisTico> anyone got an idea why i cant log on to gutsy? it keeps sending me back to the log on screen
[10:07] <ozzloy> johan-_: and if you aren't, you have to wait for them to get around to releasing the 64 bit version of whatever
[10:07] <Bonster> hammer to pc
[10:07] <gonzo_> So, I think I've got a sound driver issue, but I'm not sure. Any Gutsy people out there this morning?
[10:08] <eyeRmonkey> !ask | gonzo_
[10:08] <ubotu> gonzo_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:08] <leighaquarius> gonzo_, i'm in gusty
[10:08] <johan-_> ozzloy: but stuff will work on 64 even if it's written for 32?
[10:08] <abuyazan> also when i choose print it gives me "openoffice document recovery"
[10:08] <zetheroo> my networking goes all nuts when I try to switch between wireless and wired
[10:08] <gonzo_> I've got about 15 different media programs, and none of them will play music or video.
[10:08] <gonzo_> They all stop responding when I load 'em up.
[10:09] <Bonster> Open office is not that good
[10:09] <gonzo_> The only one I've gotten to work is Exaile Music Player.
[10:09] <Bonster> it uses java
[10:09] <gonzo_> And ... right now, its crashing. -_-
[10:09] <Bonster> try Abiword
[10:09] <abuyazan> Bonster, so what is the better solution
[10:09] <skiffx> guys if I get dpkg: error processing envy (--install): dependecy problems - leaving unconfigured    how can I check which dependancies so I can install envy ?
[10:09] <Bonster> Abiword?
[10:09] <abuyazan> Bonster, let me check
[10:09] <Kitsun> what are xubuntus system requirements?
[10:09] <ozzloy> johan-_: a 64 bit processor can run programs compiled for 32 bit, yes.  but i'm not sure how easily that works
[10:09] <johan-_> thanks for the replays. Have to run now, but will probably come back with more questions :)
[10:09] <Bonster> or one of those other word software
[10:10] <zetheroo> are the Ubuntu developers working on fixing up Gutsy... or are they already working fully on Hardy Heron?
[10:10] <ozzloy> johan-_: good luck!
[10:10] <gonzo_> How can I determine what keeps all my media programs from running? A couple times I've gotten a "can't initialize sound driver" error.
[10:10] <gonzo_> But otherwise, they just go gray.
[10:10] <dmjones500> Hi guys - when X starts, it never shows the username/pword boxes, it seems to hang just before.  Any ideas?
[10:10] <p34ce> hey i put ubuntu 7,10 on disc and chaneg to to boot from cd is there some were on linux that i have to change?
[10:10] <johan-_> ozzloy: and will only run the most basic stuff on it, basicly a fileserver/musicserver
[10:11] <Alexio> I have an asus laptop that refuses to boot from the 7.10 CD, it hangs after trying to figure out the ACPI and noacpi doesn't do anything, what should I try?
[10:11] <dmjones500> The cursor shows the loading... icon, and it keeps jumping around
[10:11] <ozzloy> johan-_: i'm no expert on 64 bit.  but it doesn't seem to be worth it.  especially if you don't specifically need 32 bit
[10:11] <ozzloy> errr... 64
[10:11] <Bonster> 64bit software support is good?
[10:11] <kaptengu> is it possible to undo "rm $file"?
[10:12] <esjay-afk> Do most of you just use the default network connection icon in the upper right hand corner when trying to connect to wireless networks or is there a better one?
[10:12] <smmagic> Can someone help me get video streams working?
[10:12] <ozzloy> johan-_: same price?  really?  hmm... if i were buying, i'd be tempted to test it out i guess
[10:12] <Bonster> which type?
[10:12] <Bonster> mms?
[10:12] <dmjones500> I run 64-bit gutsy at work, and i have no complaints
[10:12] <y0c0> how can i start windows with lilo starter?
[10:12] <dmjones500> Especially since the flash plugin for firefox was released in gutsy
[10:12] <ozzloy> esjay-afk: i use the icon
[10:12] <ozzloy> esjay-afk: what problem you having?
[10:12] <Alexio> I'm trying to boot from 7.10 and it just wont :(
[10:12] <gonzo_> I can't get any media players to work.
[10:12] <smmagic> No one can?
[10:12] <smmagic> Grr..
[10:13] <Bonster> VLC player?
[10:13] <esjay-afk> no problem really...just wondered if there was a better tool...this doesn't tell me any detailed info on the actual networks
[10:13] <y0c0> 7.10 is buged now install 7.04 and update
[10:13] <smmagic> Tried it
[10:13] <gonzo_> Nadda. Nothing works.
[10:13] <esjay-afk> or..maybe it does and i don't know how to view it
[10:13] <Alexio> thank you y0c0
[10:13] <smmagic> Trying to watch off the net
[10:13] <Bonster> u get audio tho?
[10:13] <gonzo_> Sometimes.
[10:13] <gonzo_> I've gotten Exaile to work.
[10:13] <Bonster> log out and log in
[10:13] <Bonster> usually does the trick
[10:13] <dmjones500> Anyway, it would help if someone could point me to the scripts that run just as X starts - clearly something in there is hanging
[10:13] <gonzo_> Yeah, but this keeps coming back.
[10:14] <dmjones500> Is it the stuff in /etc/rc5.d/  ?
[10:14] <esjay-afk> especially on the wifi connections that have the two pc icon in front of them...i can't seem to connect to any of those whereas I can if i'm in windows
[10:14] <smmagic> Grr...I need video streams
[10:14] <gonzo_> And the strangest thing ... Sometimes, I can play one audio file, and when the player goes to the next on my list, it dies.
[10:14] <Bonster> try unpluging ur USb stuff if it hangs
[10:14] <ozzloy> esjay-afk: those are other people's computers set to master mode
[10:14] <esjay-afk> i know the card is working well though because i can connect to my wpa security enabled wifi with 0 issues
[10:14] <esjay-afk> k that's what i thought ozzloy..
[10:14] <gonzo_> Don't have any USB devices plugged in.
[10:14] <esjay-afk> and when it's blank before the signal strength those are unsecured?
[10:14] <ozzloy> esjay-afk: usually you don't want to connect to the internet through them
[10:15] <dmjones500> Bonster: not sure if that answer was for me, but I don't have an usb stuff
[10:15] <ozzloy> esjay-afk: yes, blank means no wpa
[10:15] <dmjones500> It used to boot ok for me
[10:15] <proti> morning
[10:15] <suweid> My notebook lid switch isn't working, doesn't seem like a big deal, unless you are a little OCD...
[10:15] <abuyazan> thank Bonster , it worked fine
[10:16] <esjay-afk> ozzloy: thanks...now i just need to find an open one to fool around on :)
[10:16] <suweid> Does anyone have any clue how to fix that lid-switch thing?
[10:16] <Tesium> hi there... how can i enable ubuntu to install the 8.40.4 display driver instead of the 8.37.6 one?
[10:16] <dmjones500> suweid: what is up with the switch?
[10:16] <suweid> The lid switch doesn't do anything. It's set to dim the screen, but doesn't.
[10:16] <ozzloy> esjay-afk: if you want more detailed info, look into iwlist
[10:17] <ozzloy> esjay-afk: you can at the command line type iwconfig
[10:17] <proti> Tesium: download the binary instaler and ask him to generated debs.
[10:17] <ozzloy> esjay-afk: that will give you the name of your wireless card
[10:17] <ozzloy> esjay-afk: likely eth1 or eth0 or something similar
[10:18] <ozzloy> esjay-afk: then type: iwlist eth1 scan
[10:18] <ozzloy> and it will print out a list of access points visible to eth1 (if that's your wireless card)
[10:18] <pettah> Hi everybody. I have just installed gutsy gibbon on my HP laptop. But the sound doesn't work. Any soundhaxor who wants to help me?
[10:18] <dgjones> !sound > pettah
[10:19] <dmjones500> Ok, so I've simplified my question:  what scripts run when X starts?
[10:19] <dmjones500> clearly my problem is there somewhere
[10:19] <esjay-afk> ozzloy: thanks again
[10:20] <ozzloy> esjay-afk: np!  glad to help
[10:20] <magnetron> esjay-afk: the nm-applet in the upper right corner is the best one
[10:20] <magnetron> esjay-afk: provided that you have a working card etc
[10:21] <Lardarse> does anyone here remember the forum post about how to setup ubuntu to use xscreensaver as the screensaver manager instead of the default one, or know if it works on 7.10 ?
[10:22] <dmjones500> So, nobody knows what scripts run when X starts?
[10:22] <mejobloggs> i have ubuntu on virtualbox, and tried to set my screen resolution to higher than 1024x768, and now the screen is unreadable. Can someone guide me to get it back to 1024x768?
[10:23] <sanskrit> anyone has problem with google bar on firefox?  it can't download bookmarks.
[10:23] <SNy> dmjones500: Define "when X starts".
[10:23] <SNy> Do you mean with startx, do you mean the GDM session or do you mean the actual user session?
[10:24] <gonzo_> Please, could someone help me figure out why no media playing program will run on my computer?
[10:24] <pecisk> gonzo_: go ahead, ask
[10:24] <Bonster> dmjones500: check ur system monitor
[10:24] <gonzo_> I have no way of troubleshooting ... I've just got a whole mass of audio and video players, but none of them will work.
[10:25] <gonzo_> I've gotten error messages stating an inability to initialize the sound drivers.
[10:25] <jscinoz> is there a channel dedicated to things like shell scripts, or should i just ask my question here.
[10:25] <gonzo_> But, sometimes I can get exaile to work.
[10:26] <Bonster> ask.com
[10:26] <gonzo_> Banshee also worked, for a little bit. But now it just plays one file and locks when it tried to switch to the next.
[10:26] <Maligen> can some1 help me ? my Totem doesn't play dvd movies.
[10:26] <dmjones500> Bonster: system monitor?
[10:26] <gonzo_> And that's where I'm at. Basically an X n00b flailing in the dark.
[10:26] <Bonster> dmjones500: if ur looking for what load when u start
[10:26] <Bonster> ur pc
[10:27] <Bonster> then those process are in there
[10:27] <thedonvaughn> !dvd | gonzo_
[10:27] <ubotu> gonzo_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:27] <Bonster> Maligen: download codec
[10:27] <dmjones500> Bonster: ok... whats the command-line equiv of reaching that info?
[10:27]  * dmjones500 is running in recovery console :-/
[10:27] <thedonvaughn> !restrictedformats | gonzo_
[10:27] <ubotu> gonzo_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:27] <Maligen> Bonster, I've done
[10:27] <kousotu> have a problem: says fiefox is running, BUT I just closed it.
[10:27] <Layer8> hi all
[10:28] <Layer8> can someone help me with my menu in gnome?
[10:28] <kousotu> nvm, it just read active for a hile
[10:28] <Bonster> Maligen: go to ADD/remove search gstreamer
[10:28] <dmjones500> Layer8: what's up with it?
[10:28] <Layer8> if i try to enable some entries they get disabled again after some seconds
[10:28] <sanskrit> kousotu:  it needs several seconds to close clearly
[10:28] <gonzo_> The format isn't the problem. And I've not actually tried to play any DVD's.
[10:29] <jscinoz> hey guys i've got an init.d script, does it simply need to be chmodded 755, owned by root and placed in /etc/init.d for it to be called at startup? or must something else be done?
[10:29] <MaDiNfO_> hi all, does anyone knows if there is any issue on xine lib on 7.10 ? lots of people complaning that there is some interlaction on kaffeine or other xine based players...
[10:29] <Maligen> Bonster: gstreamer is installed
[10:29] <dmjones500> Layer8: do you mean that shortly after, they disappear from the menu again?  Or do they become disabled while you're still editing the menu?
[10:29] <Maligen> Bonster: libdvdcss2 is also installed
[10:29] <Bonster> Maligen: u need the dvd or mpeg or the video codec installed also there more then 1
[10:29] <gonzo_> I'd say it is my sound driver, but I still get system noises. Like that one annoying beep.
[10:30] <Layer8> dmjones500: the second...they get disabled while editing the menu
[10:30] <MaDiNfO_> hi all, does anyone knows if there is any issue on xine lib on 7.10 ? lots of people complaning that there is some interlaction on kaffeine or other xine based players...
[10:30] <Luis> Hi !!! Why is my Firestarter allways turning off without asking ?
[10:30] <Bonster> xine works
[10:30] <Layer8> dmjones500: like this: enabling...one second...disabled
[10:30] <simplyubuntu> helloo... can anyone help me with some damage control ffor a screwed up gutsy install?
[10:30] <dmjones500> Layer8: how strange, does this happen on every option?
[10:30] <dmjones500> or do some entries remain enabled?
[10:31] <Maligen> Bonster: all the gstreamer plugins are installed
[10:31] <simplyubuntu> i need some help on how to rollback all my packages to the original install... any ideas?
[10:31] <Layer8> dmjones500: no, just for the most entries...but not for all
[10:32] <Lardarse> does anyone here remember the forum post about how to setup ubuntu to use xscreensaver as the screensaver manager instead of the default one, or know if it works on 7.10 ?
[10:32] <thedonvaughn> simplyubuntu, only way to do that is to re-install
[10:32] <yereth> guys, I have a dual boot windows / ubuntu, but I need to reinstall windows.. how can I easily reinstall Grub for dual boot?
[10:33] <dmjones500> Layer8: not sure I have any ideas... maybe throw that on ubuntuforums.org and see what people come up with
[10:33] <Killdahl> j #ubuntu-dk
[10:33] <thedonvaughn> simplyubuntu, or know what you did and of course just 'un-due' it
[10:33] <dmjones500> Layer8: are you pressing *anything* between enabling the menu item, and when it disables itself?
[10:33] <simplyubuntu> yeah i kinda do
[10:33] <Greencookie> Anyone running gnome 2.2?
[10:33] <Layer8> dmjones500: no. just klicking and waiting
[10:33] <simplyubuntu> see what i did was copy the package selection list from my feisty install
[10:34] <incorrect> i have a java app, i believe there is an error where it is hardcoded to connect to mysql on localhost,  however if i try to strace -f -p it kills the jvm
[10:34] <thedonvaughn> Greencookie, gnome 2.20?  diff than gnome 2.2 :)
[10:34] <dmjones500> SNy: sorry, I tried private messaging you, just realised it didn't work :-/
[10:34] <Layer8> dmjones500: i resolved it!
[10:34] <Greencookie> thedonvaughn: yeah sorry, 2.20 the one in front page of www.gnome.org
[10:35] <dmjones500> SNy: Well, my symptoms are as follows:  when I boot, it hangs just prior to showing the username and password boxes
[10:35] <thedonvaughn> Greencookie, everyone running Gutsy is
[10:35] <dmjones500> Layer8: excellent, what was up with it then?
[10:35] <simplyubuntu> and put it in gutsy... i also copied all the pkgs from my feisty /var/cache/apt/archive to the same directory on gutsy... and then iupdated all my packages... a bad move indeed
[10:35] <simplyubuntu> get what i'm saying?
[10:35] <yereth> anyone?
[10:35] <Layer8> dmjones500: i authenticate my user against AD and forot to put my AD user in the admin group
[10:35] <Upayavira> I've just upgraded to Gutsy, via command line (do-release-upgrade) because GUI kept hanging on me. I had to install compiz manually with apt-get. I also want to try multiple monitors. Any idea what package I need for that?
[10:35] <Greencookie> :( gutsy didn't install for me:( I kept getting a stupid buffer I/O error on sr0 thingie.
[10:35] <dgjones> !grub | yereth
[10:35] <ubotu> yereth: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:35] <thedonvaughn> simplyubuntu, why the heck would u do that?  yah you need to re-install from scratch
[10:35] <dmjones500> SNy: I was wondering what it is likely to be running at that point
[10:36] <dmjones500> Layer8: :-)
[10:36] <sisseck> upayavira: what grafics card do you have?
[10:36] <Greencookie> Upayavira: Can I upgrade to gutsy via terminal window? (I'm on Fiesty).
[10:36] <vas> hi i am completely new user of Ubuntu and i want to help me
[10:36] <thedonvaughn> Greencookie, sounds like a bad disc or cable (or possible bad cd/dvd rom drive)
[10:36] <gonzo_> Has anyone had a similar problem to this complete media-player lockout I'm experiencing?
[10:36] <yereth> dgjones: thanks mate :)
[10:36] <Bonster> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:36] <vas> just iam trying to connect apollon
[10:36] <SNy> dmjones500: It hangs with the Xserver already started or prior to that?
[10:37] <vas> i have installed i did everything
[10:37] <SNy> At that point it would be gdm running.
[10:37] <thedonvaughn> Greencookie, change your repos in /etc/apt/source.list and apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get upgrade
[10:37] <sinned> does ubuntu 7.10 support wpa now?
[10:37] <Greencookie> thedonvaughn: Gasp! Don't tell me my DVD drive is useless now:(:(
[10:37] <vas> and when i typed giftd -v then
[10:37] <Upayavira> sisseck: ATI
[10:37] <simplyubuntu> im a stupid dumbo, thats why. what if i switch all the installs in the package selections list to deinstalls, and vice versa. and then upgrade?
[10:37] <simplyubuntu> might that fix it
[10:37] <vas> it can not connect
[10:37] <thedonvaughn> Greencookie, one of 3 possibilities for that error
[10:37] <Greencookie> thedonvaughn: ok lemme check source.list
[10:37] <dmjones500> SNy: well... i'm not sure, it changes background colour to the general ubuntu-y beige, and shows the loading cursor
[10:37] <sisseck> upayavira: im not 100% sure on this, but i think you just need to install display drivers and dual screen should work
[10:38] <Upayavira> sisseck: hmm. Nothing. What option would I go to to configure it? had it almost going via liveCD
[10:38] <Greencookie> thedonvaughn: what do i add to source.list?
[10:38] <simplyubuntu> thedonvaughn?
[10:38] <thedonvaughn> simplyubuntu, doubt it
[10:38] <thedonvaughn> Greencookie, basically change all accourneces of feisty to gutsy
[10:39] <simplyubuntu> hold on... if i dpkg -r a *.deb file, will it work?\
[10:39] <thedonvaughn> Greencookie, check ubuntu's upgrade guide at their homepage and/or wiki
[10:39] <Tesium> proti: i tried building it, but it says the following: Generating package: Ubuntu/7.10
[10:39] <Tesium> ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: 175: dpkg-architecture: not found
[10:39] <Tesium> Error: unsupported architecture:
[10:39] <Tesium> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.S11159
[10:39] <thedonvaughn> simplyubuntu, have no idea.
[10:39] <sisseck> Upayavira: system->administration->screens and graphics
[10:39] <vas> hey
[10:39] <Greencookie> thedonvaughn: ok thanks will do.
[10:39] <Upayavira> sisseck: see, I don't have that!
[10:40] <vas> is anybody to help me
[10:40] <vas> ?
[10:40] <simplyubuntu> just tried... doesnt work
[10:40] <sisseck> Upayavira: then im kinda lost. maybe try and look for a settings panel for ATI. I've only tried ubuntu with Nvidia cards
[10:40] <simplyubuntu> damn it ill have to do a reisntall
[10:40] <Upayavira> So, my question is, what package provides "Screens and Graphics" functionality?
[10:40] <Cyber_Stalker> i have just installed tinymce using "sudo apt-get install tinymce" but i cant find it to run it now... any help??
[10:40] <simplyubuntu> not much of an issue because i just reinstalled anyway
[10:40] <MaTrIx-1> Has anyone here ever used open-iSCSI?
[10:40] <simplyubuntu> !tinymce
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tinymce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <SNy> dmjones500: You should take a look at the gdm log then.
[10:41] <simplyubuntu> !info tinymce
[10:41] <ubotu> tinymce: platform independent web based Javascript/HTML WYSIWYG editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-1 (gutsy), package size 404 kB, installed size 3216 kB
[10:41] <Upayavira> sisseck: thanks for your help - you got me some of the way...
[10:41] <SNy> If it just sits there, chances are there is something wrong.
[10:41] <sisseck> Upayavira: np i
[10:41] <ghatak> Hi, Has anyone found the solution to why DRI vanished after I upgraded to 7.10. I had DRI working on my 8600GT before I upgraded.
[10:41] <dmjones500> SNy: ok, will check.... is that gonna be in /var/logs somewhere?
[10:41] <Cyber_Stalker> simplyubuntu: that doesnt help me lol
[10:41] <SNy> Should be.
[10:41] <Greencookie> thedonvaughn: Lol System>Administration>Update manager. Simple as that!
[10:41] <sisseck> Upayavira: i'll be trying with an ati card myself soon
[10:41] <SNy> Not sure.
[10:41] <simplyubuntu> ha no Cyber_Stalker, i was just looking it up for my own knowledge :)
[10:42] <SNy> !gdm dmjones500
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm dmjones500 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <Cyber_Stalker> where would it have installed to tho
[10:42] <SNy> Hm.
[10:42] <Greencookie> thedonvaughn: and I was stoopid enough to download the iso and burn it to disc where I could simply have upgraded via Fiesty!
[10:42] <Upayavira> sisseck: problem was that I could not use GUI upgrader. So it didn't bring in compiz, nor screen and graphics, etc. If GUI upgrader works, you'll be fine
[10:42] <Kitsun> how much ram do you need to install xubuntu?
[10:42] <gonzo_> I can't even get anyone to respond to me?
[10:42] <gonzo_> Sucks.
[10:42] <iNoob> helpzir
[10:42] <gonzo_> Help?
[10:42] <iNoob> helpzor
[10:42] <iNoob> need help
[10:42] <iNoob> drowning in misery
[10:42] <dgjones> !patience
[10:42] <simplyubuntu> at least you guys can download iso's in relatively human times... 8 hours isnt fun...
[10:43] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:43] <iNoob> does anyone know how to detect wireless drivers on cdlive
[10:43] <Greencookie> simplyubuntu: lol which part of the world are u in?
[10:43] <waffle> I can't download channel list can you?
[10:43] <simplyubuntu> pakistan :D lol
[10:43] <iNoob> iEat Waffkes
[10:43] <nD|HUN> iNoob: what kind of wlan?
[10:43] <Greencookie> simplyubuntu: Urdu ati hain tumhe?:)
[10:43] <iNoob> i forgot
[10:43] <MaTrIx-1> If anyone here has /ever/ used open-iscsi, could you please tell me whether or not it features an iSCSI "target" ability?
[10:44] <simplyubuntu> bilkul :) omg thats awesome!
[10:44] <iNoob> 800g
[10:44] <iNoob> or something
[10:44] <indraveni> i need help in imlpenenting loggerhead with bazaar
[10:44] <indraveni> i couldn't find proper documentation anywhere
[10:44] <Greencookie> Lol.
[10:44] <simplyubuntu> tumhain urdu kaisay pata hai?
[10:44] <nD|HUN> :) start a terminal, then: lspci | grep wireless
[10:44] <Upayavira> sisseck: it is called displayconfig-gtk. I found it via a bug on launchpad where someone mentioned "Screens and graphics". So thanks!
[10:44] <Greencookie> simplyubuntu: join this channel come #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:44] <Turbotoast> hey guys
[10:44] <Greencookie> click on it.. :)
[10:44] <iNoob> 802.11g
[10:44] <Bonster> tiny mce good?
[10:45] <iNoob> i cant find it on the dives
[10:45] <factorx> Hi I've got a problem with my sound card in gutsy. It seems ubuntu installed it correctly.... nevertheless I can't hear anything
[10:45] <Crozar> guys i just installed gutsy but theyr is no compiz , when i went to System > prefrences > appearance > and choose Visual Effects Normal i get an error message saying Desktop effects could not be enabled
[10:45] <nD|HUN> you must to know what wlan do you have to get a proper driver
[10:45] <Turbotoast> Can anyone help with finding out the description of my motherboard?
[10:45] <Cyber_Stalker> Bonster: i would tell u if i knew where it installed to
[10:45] <Bonster> oh im using Elisa
[10:45] <Bonster> if u wann try that
[10:45] <sisseck> Upayavira: cool, guess i'd better write that down in case i need it :-p
[10:46] <Turbotoast> Bonster: did that go in my direction?
[10:46] <Bonster> oh what
[10:46] <Bonster> if u wann no ur mobo
[10:46] <Bonster> just go to hardware settings
[10:47] <Cyber_Stalker> does any one know where "sudo apt-get install tinymce" would install to so i can actually use it?
[10:47] <sanskrit> Crozar: graphic card driver should be installed first
[10:47] <iNoob> no
[10:47] <iNoob> i have the same problem with graphic card
[10:47] <iNoob> i just change the vga format
[10:47] <Turbotoast> Bonster: sorry, never did all too much with anything concerning hardware. where can I find the hardware settings?
[10:47] <iNoob> and it works
[10:48] <sanskrit> Crozar: but i should be installed automatically
[10:48] <sanskrit> it
[10:48] <Bonster> Turbotoast: sys>perf>hardware
[10:48] <Crozar> sanskrit, its installed
[10:48] <incorrect> i want to monitor a connect to a port,  could use something like the echo server to listen for inbound connections?
[10:48] <Crozar> sanskrit, restricted driver
[10:48] <Turbotoast> Bonster: thanks
[10:49] <Crozar> i just want to get compiz running , i dont know why it says this error
[10:49] <Bonster> Cyber_Stalker: if u installed already go to snaptic
[10:49] <Bonster> and search for it
[10:49] <Bonster> click on properties
[10:49] <Bonster> and ull find the path
[10:49] <Greencookie> Crozar: Do you have an ATI graphics card?
[10:50] <Crozar> its UbuntU Gnome guys.. btw my friend installed it and it works straight away with compiz
[10:50] <Crozar> Greencookie, i have ati x1600 on my PC , but right now im on a laptop Nvidia 32mb geforce4
[10:50] <Cyber_Stalker> thank you Bonster !!!!!!!!!!!
[10:50] <iNoob> does anyone know how to detect wireless drivies i cant find my
[10:50] <Bonster> compiz u need the compiz manager also sometimes is not by default
[10:50] <tomParis> Hello, I have a couple of network issues since upgrading to Gutsy, firstly I have my wifi configured in roaming mode, and each time I reboot I have to re enter the pass code, secondly network performance is terrible if I run a bittorrent client, uTorrent and Deluge both seem to kill the network (firefox times out etc) Can anybody help??
[10:50] <Greencookie> Well I've got ATI card on my PC atm Crozar. And till now havent been able to figure out 3d drivers for Fiesty.
[10:51] <Crozar> Greencookie, get Gutsy
[10:51] <Crozar> Greencookie, gutsy works fine
[10:51] <Greencookie> Crozar: will that solve my ATI problem?
[10:51] <iNoob> shoot
[10:51] <Crozar> Greencookie, YES!
[10:51] <iNoob> i got 8000 working on my laptop
[10:52] <iNoob> now i cant seem to work my wireless connection
[10:52] <Bonster> Greencookie: i think for Ati drivers there was a program call Envy that does it all auto
[10:52] <iNoob> helpzor i need online to watch porn
[10:52] <iNoob> jk
[10:52] <Greencookie> Crozar: I'm getting it as we speak!! Tell me it also works fine with WPA networks.
[10:52] <Crozar> how come my PC same installation has compiz straight away and this laptop says Desktop effects could not be enabled
[10:52] <Greencookie> 33 minutes to downloading the Gutsy upgrade! yay:)
[10:52] <Crozar> i dont know about wireless Greencookie , i like with wires
[10:52] <iNoob> rofl
[10:52] <iNoob> ethernet
[10:52] <iNoob> stoneages
[10:52] <Crozar> Greencookie, i rather not upgrade i hate upgradeing
[10:53] <iNoob> comeone
[10:53] <Crozar> Greencookie, fresh install is better trust me
[10:53] <iNoob> laptop is suppose to be wireless
[10:53] <iNoob> need helpzor on cofiguration
[10:53] <Crozar> iNoob, myne is a 2001 laptop like i said 32mb nvidia , S801 Toshiba satelite
[10:53] <tomParis> Hello, I have a couple of network issues since upgrading to Gutsy, firstly I have my wifi configured in roaming mode, and each time I reboot I have to re enter the pass code, secondly network performance is terrible if I run a bittorrent client, uTorrent and Deluge both seem to kill the network (firefox times out etc) Can anybody help??
[10:53] <Greencookie> Crozar: I tried with the iso cd but it gave me buffer i/o error on sr0
[10:53] <Crozar> and its not like any laptop its a 17 inch laptop screen ;)
[10:53] <Greencookie> Crozar: so now my only hope is of an upgrade:)
[10:53] <incorrect> i want to monitor connections to a tcp port,  what can i use to do this?
[10:54] <Bonster> im still on stoneage ethernet wire
[10:54] <Crozar> Greencookie, i install it fresh through ALT F4 , without being inside the live cd
[10:54] <sisseck> i vote support for Crozar, wires rock
[10:54] <Greencookie> Crozar: Can you explan?
[10:54] <Greencookie> explain*
[10:54] <Bonster> wires better anyways unless u got laptop
[10:54] <Crozar> google.com
[10:54] <simplyubuntu> wires?
[10:54] <Crozar> life is with google
[10:54] <sisseck> wired network instead of wireless
[10:54] <Greencookie> Crozar: what should my search string be??:)
[10:55] <Crozar> but im not googling how compiz works , because i did 4 mistakes with it and non of tutorial explains about the new gutsy release
[10:55] <Bonster> for compiz
[10:55] <Crozar> install ubuntu
[10:55] <iNoob> sorry to be a devils advocate
[10:55] <Bonster> u need to download compiz-manager
[10:55] <Bonster> also
[10:55] <Cyber_Stalker> Bonster: what was the editor you suggested? tinymce is some weird browser plug in or something, i want an actual application
[10:55] <iNoob> but i tried fedora their wireless works fine
[10:55] <iNoob> but it suxzor
[10:55] <Crozar> Bonster, i want to get the snow plugins
[10:55] <simplyubuntu> Crozar compiz is default with gutsy. thats prob why
[10:55] <Bonster> for MCE?
[10:56] <Crozar> simplyubuntu, its default why i cant enable it
[10:56] <Crozar> simplyubuntu, guys i just installed gutsy but theyr is no compiz , when i went to System > prefrences > appearance > and choose Visual Effects Normal i get an error message saying Desktop effects could not be enabled
[10:56] <sisseck> iNoob: wireless works great for me in ubuntu as well. But when possible i use wired
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> Bonster: i want a WYSIWYG editor for building a web site
[10:56] <Crozar> Greencookie, install compiz manual
[10:56] <simplyubuntu> are you sure your restricted drivers are installed (if you have a graphics card)
[10:56] <Greencookie> Crozar: whats that?
[10:56] <MaTrIx-1> iNoob: 802.11G worked out of box for me in Ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10
[10:57] <qwerkus> Hi all: where can you configure your tty console under gutsy ?
[10:57] <Vitor> p
[10:57] <Vitor> jg
[10:57] <Vitor> gjil
[10:57] <Bonster> Cyber_Stalker: oh i though tinymce was a media center loL, for HTML stuff i rmeber Nvu that was good
[10:57] <iNoob> i gotz 6.04
[10:57] <iNoob> damn time to upgrade
[10:57] <Crozar> yes simplyubuntu  but i did something , i went in the xorg file and did these Horizsync	56-65
[10:57] <Crozar> 	Vertrefresh	56-65
[10:57] <iNoob> later
[10:57] <Crozar> simplyubuntu, i wanted to get my default refresh rate for my screen its 60 not 50 lo
[10:57] <simplyubuntu> Cyber_Stalker thats why i asked the bot what tinymce was lol
[10:58] <Cyber_Stalker> lol
[10:58] <MaTrIx-1> If anyone here has used open-iscsi -- please let me know
[10:58] <Crozar> !lol
[10:58] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[10:58] <simplyubuntu> that should be in system, preferences, screen resolution
[10:58] <Crozar> so its ok to use lo
[10:58] <Bonster> Cyber_Stalker: just type in html in add/remove and ull get a list
[10:58] <Greencookie> Can anyone tell me why my Ctrl+Alt+F1 combination is not working:(:(
[10:58] <Greencookie> I dunno what I did wrong/
[10:58] <Cyber_Stalker> !spam | Crozar
[10:58] <ubotu> Crozar: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[10:58] <Crozar> !offtopic
[10:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:59] <Cyber_Stalker> ok boonster ill have a look now and hopefully i find some thing
[10:59] <Cyber_Stalker> !leave
[10:59] <Crozar> simplyubuntu, ? can you help
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about leave - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <Crozar> Cyber_Stalker, please behave
[10:59] <Crozar> Cyber_Stalker, commanders can control so please.
[10:59] <Cyber_Stalker> im not the one who started that bit of childishness
[11:00] <nD|HUN> heya, cant join #ubuntu+1, is it nrmal?
[11:00] <sanskrit> Crozar:  have you installed ccsm? maybe some options are not allowed.
[11:00] <Crozar> hmm i need a dictionary right now
[11:00] <Myrtti> nD|HUN: this is it ;-)
[11:00] <qwerkus> nobody knows about console settings ?
[11:00] <Greencookie> Can anyone tell me why my Ctrl+Alt+F1 combination is not working:(:(
[11:00] <Lardarse> Greencookie: i believe it's disabled by default
[11:00] <Crozar> ok how to run compiz?
[11:00] <sivik> nD|HUN, neither can I, not sure what is going on
[11:00] <Crozar> maybe i must restart
[11:00] <nD|HUN> och. :) then all right, thanks
[11:00] <Crozar> let me try
[11:00] <simplyubuntu> Crozar is system>prefences>screen resolution not working?
[11:01] <qwerkus> Greencookie: same prob here: default tty consoles have been disabled
[11:01] <Crozar> qwerkus, its working but its on 50 hertz
[11:01] <Crozar> cant change that qwerkus
[11:01] <ironboy> Anyone here know how i can install "Automatix'
[11:01] <Greencookie> qwerkus: Lardarse , do u know how to enable it?
[11:01] <nD|HUN> Crozar: u have xgl?
[11:01] <Crozar> yes how to check
[11:01] <Lardarse> ask me again in 2 days time, and I'll likely know the answer
[11:01] <KiKiZoZo> 7.10 anyone has flash/java problems???
[11:01] <Cyber_Stalker> !automatix
[11:01] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a 3rd-party product attempting to automate installation of additional software. When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it. A technical analysis from a Debian/Ubuntu developer can be found at http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (See also: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[11:02] <Lardarse> right now, i'm waiting for my NTFS partition to defrag before i install
[11:02] <qwerkus> Greencookie: console ? nope: searching too !
[11:02] <sanskrit> KiKiZoZo:  i have java problem
[11:02] <nD|HUN> well, the easiest way is: compiz --replace
[11:02] <rik_> !record volume
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about record volume - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <nD|HUN> it will say whetter u have xgl or not
[11:02] <Crozar> i will restart
[11:02] <Cyber_Stalker> ironboy: you see that?
[11:02] <Crozar> nD|HUN, wehre does it say?
[11:02] <KiKiZoZo> sanskrit: well sometimes the flash/java in my GG7.10 gets embedded on my desktop... i wanna know if anyone has that...
[11:03] <Lardarse> does anyone know what the minimum recommended hard disk partition to allocate to ubuntu is?
[11:03] <ironboy> cyber_stalker c waht
[11:03] <doktoreas> anyone is using ubuntu on mac mini?
[11:03] <sanskrit> KiKiZoZo: my case is java applet dont work
[11:03] <nD|HUN> in the console its output brings some information about using nvidia driver/fglrx and having xgl installed
[11:03] <Greencookie> qwerkus: Funny thing is they used to work fine until an hour ago. now the keys dont do anything
[11:03] <KiKiZoZo> even tho i quit firefox the flash is still on my desktop... i use forcequit for it.. and i have a white box on my desktop
[11:04] <Cyber_Stalker> !automatix | ironboy
[11:04] <ubotu> ironboy: Automatix2 is a 3rd-party product attempting to automate installation of additional software. When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it. A technical analysis from a Debian/Ubuntu developer can be found at http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (See also: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[11:04] <KiKiZoZo> blocking all application coming up
[11:04] <GuHHH>  ive configured squid, its waiting for requests on my server, but my client cant connect outside my network, it can resolve hostnames, but cant ping... i can only reach my server, not whats behind it... any help?
[11:04] <Lardarse> !help
[11:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:04] <qwerkus> Hey: here something to read about the "no tty console bug": https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910
[11:04] <KiKiZoZo> sanskrit: what release are you using???
[11:04] <sanskrit> KiKiZoZo: 7.10
[11:04] <Greencookie> Once I upgrade to Gutsy will I have an option of reverting to Fiesty later on?
[11:05] <sanskrit> KiKiZoZo: i guess i choose wrong java package
[11:05] <dgjones> Greencookie, no, once upgraded, the only way of going back would be a fresh install
[11:05] <ironboy> Checking out the analysis right now
[11:05] <vladim> any idea why the volume in gutsy is so low i can barely hear it on gutsy? ive turned up the volume to full strength
[11:05] <vladim> ?
[11:05] <Greencookie> Dude that sucks. I've heard so many bad things about Gutsy that im having doubts whether to cancel my upgrade or not.
[11:06] <Greencookie> Im in the middle of it:)
[11:06] <nD|HUN> is there any way to enable frame buffer with fglrx, to have bootup/shutdown screens(quiet splash)?
[11:06] <Rav1> hey guys, can someone help me with desktopeffects on gusy?
[11:06] <vladim> Greencookie most of the seem to just be minor configuration issues
[11:06] <KiKiZoZo> sanskrit: java/flash comes w/GG7 thru firefox... i installed java/flash thru firefox just like we do on windows... really easy... no problems...
[11:06] <Crozar> guys please tell me why in nvidia-settings i see 60 hertz refresh rate and in screen resoloutions its on 69 ??? which one im using whats the terminal to command to see the exact , this bug is just a glitch
[11:07] <sanskrit> KiKiZoZo: did you choose gcj package?
[11:07] <Lardarse> Crozar: maybe a typo somewhere?
[11:07] <vladim> Rav1 right click desktop background, press change background go to visual effects and chose custom
[11:07] <Rav1> thats saying component not installed
[11:07] <Rav1> @valdim
[11:07] <maniac_x> Greencookie: it is more likely that you will hear of the "bad things" as opposed to the "good things". People who experience now problems ahve nothing to complain about :)
[11:07] <Crozar> no terminal commands?
[11:08] <vladim> Rav1, did you enable the hardware restricted ati driver by any chance?
[11:08] <KiKiZoZo> i don't know whats the gcj pkg but there is also a pkg in
[11:08] <Crozar> can any1 tell me why ?
[11:08] <Crozar> is any1 paying attention
[11:08] <vladim> that happened to me once i enabled the ati restricted driver
[11:08] <vladim> reverted, and it works again
[11:08] <ironboy> Is it anyuse installing Automatix?? Can I install the required files without Automatix??
[11:08] <Greencookie> maniac_x: lol. true.
[11:08] <vladim> im still kinda pussled over this low volume thingie tho
[11:08] <dgjones> Greencookie, i've done three upgrades, and all worked fine, only one minor problem & that was easy enough to solve
[11:08] <KiKiZoZo> add remove apps called ubuntu resticted extras... that worked for me too...
[11:09] <KiKiZoZo> sanskrit:  add remove apps called ubuntu resticted extras... that worked for me too...
[11:09] <nD|HUN> vladim: do u hve installed xgl?
[11:09] <dgjones> ironboy, if you know which app's you want to install, just use synaptic to search for them and install that way
[11:09] <sanskrit> KiKiZoZo: thx, i will try it.
[11:09] <Greencookie> dgjones: o0 hope mine goes by smoothly as well:)
[11:10] <Bonster> i got long nails
[11:10] <KiKiZoZo> sanskrit: np
[11:10] <ironboy> dgjones:What apps are present in Automatix anyway??
[11:10] <Bonster> automatrix is dead
[11:10] <KiKiZoZo> ubuntu restricted pkg also has mp3 and a whole bunch of stuff... just check it out
[11:10] <KiKiZoZo> sanskrit:  ubuntu restricted pkg also has mp3 and a whole bunch of stuff... just check it out
[11:11] <dgjones> ironboy, i'm not sure, if you look on the automatix website, it used to list them so you should be able to find them
[11:11] <KiKiZoZo> anyone know if there is a bug of some sort w/java or flash in 7.10???
[11:11] <qwerkus> Here is a good workaround to get the fb-console working again: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=454392&page=3
[11:11] <qwerkus> hop this helps :)
[11:12] <kanjo> i would like to ask a question that is not quite Ubuntu related, can I please?
[11:12] <ironboy> dgjones:THanx
[11:12] <rarj> Hi. I have a Microtek CRT and Ubuntu Feisty is either misconfiguring the refresh rate or the resolution. I can boot to the livecd to run ubiquity. the CRT doesnt do beyond 1024x768. Can anyone tell me how to make it boot to 1024x768@75 instead of anything else ?
[11:12] <sanskrit> KiKiZoZo: really?    i need real media support ...  mp3 works fine on my box
[11:13] <sainry> rarj The display driver is install?
[11:13] <KiKiZoZo> sanskrit: