[03:31] <Yashiro_Nanakase> i'm getting problems to configure wine sound emulation
[03:32] <BlueEagle> vaz: so nothing looking like bluetooth returned with lsusb either?
[03:32] <Yashiro_Nanakase> :(
[03:32] <wirelain> estimablesir: how much ram?
[03:32] <estimablesir> 1 gig
[03:32] <vaz> no
[03:32] <BlueEagle> vaz: I see. How about broadcom?
[03:32] <EriK_> vaz: I've had my worst experiences with ubu wrt bluetooth.  Two seperate bt dongles would not work or worked badly on my toshiba laptop, but would sometimes act better if put on a usb 1.1 hub.  It was horrid
[03:32] <BlueEagle> vaz: got any lines with that?
[03:32] <vaz> but what was weird was when I used Kubuntu 6.o6 it worked
[03:32] <EriK_> plugged one of the same bt dongles (silicon radio) into a usb2 hub on my xenon desktop.....
[03:32] <jn> mplayer audio in out of sync.. i see the auto auto sync but im not sure what to set it at, every setting i try is off
[03:32] <vaz> nothing with broadcom
[03:33] <EriK_> had obex to my phone and btsco audio to my headset in about ~5 minutes of mucking
[03:33] <estimablesir> it just seems like it stops, i can type things on the screen so it's not completely frozen
[03:33] <vaz> could it be maybe the kernel?
[03:33] <wirelain> estimablesir: how long have you let it sit?
[03:33] <BlueEagle> vaz: do you see BCM2033 anywhere then?
[03:33] <Rea_> Hey people.. Is it possible to go straight to the installation of Ubuntu without loading up the live version??  downloaded Ubuntu Desktop 6.06
[03:34] <EriK_> Rea: that is what the server iso is for
[03:34] <BlueEagle> vaz: or BCM anything
[03:35] <inono> How do I turn up my microphone volume?
[03:35] <BlueEagle> vaz: (hint: lspci|grep BCM)
[03:35] <EriK_> inono:  with a mixer, amixer from a shell prompt should do you
[03:35] <BlueEagle> rea_: Yes but that requires that you download the alternative installation CD afaik.
[03:35] <wirelain> estimablesir: from the boot cd ... it takes time right there ... go take a nap.
[03:36] <vaz> Ethernet controller
[03:36] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Couldn't figure it out. It says go back to Detect Network Hardware step, but what do I do there?
[03:37] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: hmm... if you press ALT+F3 or ALT+F4 does that give you a terminal?
[03:37] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: if so you can type: modprobe rtl8139 or what ever that driver was named again. :)
[03:37] <Rea_> oh noo... i Just spent 6 days downloading..  I want to install it, but it runs the live version, and cant load XWindows, because not enough memory  so i just get the "live" console... but no idea how to run install from there..
[03:37] <estimablesir> donpachi are you able to see my messagesin the pm?
[03:38] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: yes rtl8139 if that errs you can try tulip and that other one... via-rhine
[03:38] <donpachi> estimablesir: not seeing them...
[03:38] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: either that or look for an option to install modules
[03:38] <estimablesir> ::sigh:: i'm having no luck today lol
[03:38] <blind> For some reason, the hotkeys in VLC have stopped working for me, (ie Space for play/pause, shift+up for fast forward, etc).. what could be the cause of this and how would I fix it?
[03:38] <donpachi> hehe..
[03:38] <root> slu
[03:39] <vaz> Ethernet Controller :Broadcom orporation BCM5789 Gigabit Ethernet PCI express
[03:39] <BlueEagle> rea_: Well you can always go to someone with a better line and download it there?
[03:39] <estimablesir> well anyone, i have geforce 7900 gs, per your original question
[03:39] <inono> ahhh nice my mic is up
[03:39] <BlueEagle> vaz: Nope, that's not it. :/
[03:39] <estimablesir> *anyway
[03:39] <root> francais?
[03:40] <BlueEagle> vaz: tell you what. Why don't you go to ubuntu.pastebin.com and paste the complete output from lspci there?
[03:40] <EriK_> I just got a new laptop a few days ago and it has onboard broadcom wifi.  Right now I am running ubu in vmware under the factory xp install
[03:40] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Module rtl8139 not found.
[03:40] <BlueEagle> vaz: and throw in the output of lsusb too just for good measure.
[03:40] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: o'rly?
[03:40] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: But both tulip and via-rhine seemed to load okay.
[03:40] <toddobryan> But didn't help with the card detection.
[03:40] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Yeah.
[03:41] <EriK_> going to swap the broadcom minipci card for a spare atheros rather then deal with ndiswrapper nonsense
[03:41] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: lsmod|grep tulip && lsmod|grep via-rhine
[03:41] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Could they possibly have not included it?
[03:41] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: I wouldn't think so. It's one of the most common drivers.
[03:41] <donpachi> so are you hanging on install? or boot?
[03:41] <estimablesir> on boot
[03:41] <Rea_> oh noo...  i see now: Alternate ISO "installs on systems with less than about 192MB of RAM.".... :(   i have just 64MB and the Desktop version...   :_(   cant wait another 6 days..
[03:42] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: try modprobe 8139too
[03:42] <Pulshion> Hi, Everytime i try to login to my user ubuntu keeps kicking me out bak to login screen, it takes 2/3 times to actually get logged in. Does anyone have the same problem? Also when i logout of the session i end up at non functional login screen.
[03:42] <estimablesir> i sent you a messagen ot sure you can read it though
[03:42] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: and for good measure throw in 8139cp
[03:42] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: tulip 51782 0
[03:42] <donpachi> and can you boot into recovery mode?
[03:42] <wirelain> estimablesir: have you just let it sit for ... a half hour or so?
[03:43] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: and then do lsmod|grep 8139
[03:43] <Pulshion> donpachi -- if me, then yes i can boot it in normal gnome but it only works from like 2nd 3rd try
[03:43] <estimablesir> didn't try it, i'll try recovery mode, i'm new to ubuntu, how do you boot into recovery mode
[03:43] <estimablesir> ...dam
[03:43] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: 8139too seemed to work.
[03:43] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: did you get the card detected?
[03:43] <BlueEagle> cards*
[03:43] <EriK_> Rea_:  1995 called, they want that pair of 32MB SIMMs back.
[03:44] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: But didn't help with detection.
[03:44] <Rea_> hehe
[03:44] <EriK_> :)
[03:44] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Is modprobe 8139too all I should need to do?
[03:44] <donpachi> recovery mode should be one of the options under the GRUB menu...
[03:44] <Maje> I'm having a problem installing ATI's proprietary drivers..after installing, fglrxinfo is reporting "Mesa" as my OpenGL renderer, even though I have xorg.conf sorted out and have run aticonfig
[03:44] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: in theory, yes.
[03:44] <estimablesir> k, assuming it does work and it has something to do with my video card is there any way around it?
[03:44] <Pulshion> Hi, Everytime i try to login to my user ubuntu keeps kicking me out bak to login screen, it takes 2/3 times to actually get logged in. Does anyone have the same problem? Also when i logout of the session i end up at non functional login screen.
[03:45] <tate_> mayday, mayday.  How can I regenerate my .Xauthority file?
[03:45] <EriK_> toddobryan:  after the modprobe, do an ifconfig and see if you are the proud parent of a new puppy
[03:45] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: now lspci does return the same string for both cards bar the PCI address?
[03:45] <|thunder> ive install a bunch of codecs with automatix. but i still cant play a dvr-ms file with any player. its just mpeg2. Any ideas?
[03:45] <toddobryan> I'll check both of those.
[03:45] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell |thunder about automatix
[03:45] <toddobryan> Sorry this is taking so long; the other computer is across the room.
[03:45] <|thunder> ive got automatix
[03:45] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: Well atleast you get some exercise. :)
[03:46] <|thunder> and used it to  install all of the codecs
[03:46] <elhaxxorz> Hey all, #cups is dead, anyone willing to try and get a printer working for me?
[03:46] <BlueEagle> did that change?
[03:46] <BlueEagle> !automatix
[03:46] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:46] <Pulshion> Hi, Everytime i try to login to my user ubuntu keeps kicking me out bak to login screen, it takes 2/3 times to actually get logged in. Does anyone have the same problem? Also when i logout of the session i end up at non functional login screen. Could anyone help?
[03:46] <BlueEagle> |thunder: ahh, there you go: "Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix."
[03:47] <Madpilot> BlueEagle, the automatix tell is far more polite now that it has been in the past
[03:47] <BlueEagle> |thunder: didn't ubotu send you that line in a /msg?
[03:47] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Both ifconfig and lspci produce nothing.
[03:47] <BlueEagle> madpilot: I can see that.
[03:47] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: lspci doesn't return your network cards?
[03:47] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: What I didn't notice before is that the terminal I had was called "BusyBox".
[03:47] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: Are they ISA cards by any chance?
[03:47] <|thunder> yes. i suppose it did. but im asking if anyone knows hhow to get dvd-ms files to play. not an automatix related question.
[03:47] <donpachi> no way to bypass, but if you can boot into console mode you might be able to read some logs and diagnose the errors
[03:48] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: F3 and F4 didn't work, but F2 gave a command line with a ~# prompt.
[03:48] <Coruscant> which do i download for ubuntu the rpm or the "other" file for limewire?
[03:48] <vaz> blueeagle: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20163
[03:48] <estimablesir> alright i'll give it a shot, thanks don
[03:48] <BlueEagle> |thunder: If it's installed with automatix it's not really certain that people that didn't use automatix is having the same problem.
[03:48] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Nope. Both PCI.
[03:48] <tate_> mayday, mayday.  How can I regenerate my .Xauthority file?
[03:48] <elhaxxorz> use the rpm and convert to .deb using alien, Coruscant
[03:48] <Maje> I'm having a problem installing ATI's proprietary drivers..after installing, fglrxinfo is reporting "Mesa" as my OpenGL renderer, even though I have xorg.conf sorted out and have run aticonfig
[03:48] <EriK_> that is what you get for having that oversized Bourgeoisie room.
[03:48] <Coruscant> where is the converter at? el?
[03:48] <EriK_> (j/k)
[03:48] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Like I said, though, the motherboard is kinda old. Is it possible it's not supported on the CD?
[03:49] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: ...and nothing about d-link, realtek or tulip in lspci?
[03:49] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: pci is also old and it's supported :)
[03:49] <elhaxxorz> Coruscant, just 'sudo apt-get install alien' then 'sudo alien (filename)'
[03:49] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: sounds to me like you might want to try to remove one of the cards.
[03:49] <Coruscant> elhaxxorz there is no online downloader?
[03:49] <Rea_> EriK_: so there is no way i can install it from the Desktop CD, i have to download the Alternate one ?
[03:50] <elhaxxorz> Coruscant, not under Linux
[03:50] <Coruscant> nice thanks
[03:50] <EriK_> with that little ram, I doubt it
[03:50] <elhaxxorz> Coruscant, i can make you a .deb and send it to you if you want me to
[03:50] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Literally NOTHING when I do lspci.  Download the RPM then
[03:51] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: ahh  you're on the installation cd still, right?
[03:51] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: I can never remember which is eth0 and which is eth1 anyway.
[03:51] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Yes. Still installation CD.
[03:51] <bitwise_> how would i undo a 'sudo apt-get install rails'
[03:51] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: You might want to continue the installation w/o installing the network right now.
[03:51] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: You can always do that later.
[03:51] <Coruscant> ill be back in like an hour elhaxxorz will you still be here to help cause im pretty noobish at debian based linux?
[03:51] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: ...and I'm pretty sure we can get them working. :)
[03:51] <|thunder> bitwise_, remove instead of install
[03:52] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Are you sure of that?
[03:52] <toddobryan> :-)
[03:52] <toddobryan> OK. Here goes.
[03:52] <elhaxxorz> Coruscant, you have gaim?
[03:52] <bmwm5> APPEARS AS ARMANDO
 #3XFHF03
[03:52] <bmwm5> Hello allz, how do iz install linuckz on windows PLS? so i can squeeze the pigeon
[03:52] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: is 85% good enough?
[03:52] <bitwise_> what about dependencies that it installed?
[03:52] <Coruscant> yea
[03:52] <elhaxxorz> then IM me as el haxxorz
[03:52] <|thunder> bitwise_, try complete removal in synaptic
[03:52] <|thunder> but im not sure
[03:53] <Coruscant> elhaxxorz what is your s/n
[03:53] <elhaxxorz> Coruscant, just let me know who you are i dont plan to be on here too long
[03:53] <elhaxxorz> Coruscant, el haxxorz
[03:53] <BlueEagle> vaz: is it a wired and a wireless network card on your machine?
[03:53] <bitwise_> ok thanks
[03:53] <vaz> yes
[03:53] <vaz> i got both working
[03:54] <walkingmac> noob looking for help
[03:54] <quiche> I lose 3D accel whenever I try to update fglrx drivers, any ideas?
[03:55] <rpedro> quiche: what does fglrxinfo say_
[03:55] <fredie> hi
[03:55] <walkingmac> (new to linux) I burned a livecd of Ubuntu and try to get it to load on a dell laptop and it doesn't seem to load. Any thoughts?
[03:55] <jordan__> Do you know what a good wysiwig editor is(Preferably like frontpage or Dreamweaver)
[03:55] <dasos> walkingmac, check the bios settings to see which device it boots from
[03:55] <fredie> help
[03:55] <quiche> rpedro, I've since reverted the drivers, but when using the newest versions, fglrxinfo says mesa indirect
[03:55] <fredie> help tuquito
[03:56] <BlueEagle> vaz: apperantly your "Network controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 4222 (rev 02)" should be responsible for bluetooth
[03:56] <walkingmac> ya... went into the setup and set it to the cd drive and then exit and it loads M$
[03:56] <BlueEagle> vaz: looking for the required driver and a way to get it installed.
[03:56] <walkingmac> unless I am missing something (haven't used M$ in a LONG time)
[03:56] <rpedro> quiche: ok, take a look a this thread, there's a few tips for fixing problems with 3d on ATI cards >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143283
[03:57] <dasos> walkingmac, check once again to see if CD is the first boot device and make sure you saved it (simple mistake, i've done it plenty of times)
[03:57] <rpedro> quiche: usually for me just making a symbolic link from /usr/lib/dri fixes it
[03:57] <Madpilot> jordan_, there's NVU - but you should learn HTML & handcode - try Bluefish or Screem for that
[03:57] <BlueEagle> vaz: the device should be a "Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network w/Bluetooth" if I am not mistaking.
[03:57] <dasos> MS windows shouldn't have anything to do with it if you aren't booting into the CD
[03:58] <azureal> is there a great comic relief channel on freenode?
[03:58] <jordan__> Hello Does anybody know a good wysiwig for ubuntu?
[03:58] <EriK_> walking: do you get a message of any sort that it is trying to load linux or an orange ubuntu logo?
[03:58] <dasos> walkingmac, also, make sure you burned the image correctly, sometimes its the disk
[03:58] <walkingmac> ok... see ya.. it never asked for confirmation that I wanted to save those settings, just exit like I didn't do anything
[03:58] <EriK_> jordan: wysiwyg WHAT?
[03:58] <vaz> BlueEagle : it was loaded as broadcom on windows with a widcomm USB2.0 drivers
[03:58] <EriK_> Drawing?  Painting?  Page layout?  HTML editor?
[03:58] <walkingmac> Erik- no... just from setup to windows
[03:59] <EriK_> walkingmac: you need to either change your bios boot order or see if it has a key to 'select boot device'
[03:59] <walkingmac> could be the disc I guess, I made it on my mac, but using toast 6. windows seems to play the browser just fine tho
[03:59] <EriK_> on both my hp and toshiba laptops, F12 when it is turned on will let you select where to boot from
[03:59] <BlueEagle> vaz: o
[04:00] <BlueEagle> vaz: o'rly?
[04:00] <vaz> BlueEagle: yes
[04:00] <visik7> Reconstructor is cool
[04:00] <visik7> really cool
[04:00] <EriK_> reconstructor does what?
[04:01] <vaz> Blueeagle: what do you think about this USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
[04:01] <dasos> walkingmac, if you're going to check the bios again, there might be some tabs/pages in there you have to navigate to that says "save and quit"
[04:01] <BlueEagle> vaz: I think that it's the usb root hub (Enhanced Host Controller Interface)
[04:01] <vaz> BlueEagle: line12
[04:01] <cyphase> http://www.dappit.com/
[04:01] <vaz> ok
[04:02] <BlueEagle> vaz: UHCI being Universal Host Controller Interface. (EHCI is usb 2.0 iirc)
[04:02] <visik7> EriK_: is a tool to create a custom ubuntu live cd
[04:02] <visik7> and install
[04:02] <azureal> walkingmac, i'd have to agree w/ dasos to make sure your bios is setup correctly
[04:02] <visik7> EriK_: you can add and remove repos software and other things
[04:02] <visik7> EriK_: I'm testing it right now
[04:02] <BlueEagle> vaz: but do you have a usb mouse connected to your lappy?
[04:02] <rpedro> quiche: try 'cd /usr/lib/xorg/modules/ && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/dri' then 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' (save all your work before you run this second command it restarts the X server)
[04:02] <BlueEagle> vaz: or anything on any usb ports?
[04:02] <visik7> EriK_: unfortunatly it supports only gnome right now but is a great tool
[04:02] <quiche> rpedro, actually I should mention I'm trying to get the 8.27 drivers, not the "official"  8.25 ones
[04:03] <vaz> BlueEagle: well I have 3 usb ports but now  4 showup
[04:03] <vaz> no
[04:03] <BlueEagle> vaz: nothign connected to any usb ports you say?
[04:03] <walkingmac> I am just not seeing anything about save... very wierd
[04:03] <quiche> rpedro, the instructions from the link you posted seem to be assuming 8.25 drivers, which I can already get to install ok
[04:03] <BlueEagle> vaz: Well that's mystifying.
[04:03] <|thunder> Erik, can you remove open office with it ?
[04:03] <EriK_> On a side note, wow.  I've been lurking in here for a while.  Today is the first time I've participated, and I feel like I am both learning a lot and am providing at least a tiny shred of help to others.
[04:03] <vaz> BlueEagle: yes count me in on the mystified
[04:03] <BlueEagle> vaz: It appears that your bluetooth device is being identified as a logitech device.
[04:04] <BlueEagle> vaz: ..and that's down to someone using an ID they weren't supposed to use in their hardware methinks.
[04:04] <vaz> Blueeagle: I think its confusing that with my orbicam
[04:04] <quiche> rpedro, I was using the mirror.ubuntulinux.nl repository, which has pre-built debs from the ati 8.27 installer, but after installing I'm unable to get away from mesa indirect rendering
[04:04] <tate_> Quake4 kills my x-server
[04:05] <EriK_> thunder: remove openoffice with what?
[04:05] <walkingmac> weird.... I had to disable the HHD
[04:05] <rpedro> quiche: oh, any specific reason your running the installer from the ati site? it's really much simpler to use the packages from ubuntu repositories
[04:05] <vaz> BlueEagle: that dont work either but that seems to be a universal problem
[04:05] <tate_> I mean kills it so I have to reinstall ubuntu
[04:05] <rpedro> quiche: prebuilt deb?
[04:05] <BlueEagle> vaz: got a webcam by any chance? (like integrated in the screen or anything?)
[04:05] <ceruleantiger> when I try to ssh into my desktop from my laptop, I cannot get in. My desktop is behind a router, and the laptop is connected wirelessly to the same router. Am I missing something? It says connection refused... It's the same when I go from desktop-> laptop
[04:05] <quiche> rpedro, afaik, 8.27 isn't available officially as a package
[04:06] <rpedro> quiche: then it maybe that fix works to for your problem
[04:06] <ceruleantiger> note: my laptop is running osx, and my desktop is ubuntu, so is it something weird with osx?
[04:06] <vaz> BlueEagle: Yes its the orbicam and thats what I think it has confused as logitech its seems to not work on all aspires running ubuntu
[04:06] <BlueEagle> vaz: The device in question would be the Acer OrbiCam
[04:06] <thaixstyle> hello folks...
[04:06] <quiche> rpedro, huh? lol
[04:06] <walkingmac> am I going to need to go back into the BIOS when I am done testing linux and re-enable the harddrive?
[04:06] <rpedro> quiche: just check if you have a directory named /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri , I'll wait
[04:06] <BlueEagle> vaz: Well that clarifies that mystery.
[04:07] <BlueEagle> vaz: Drivers are not ready for that cam yet. Apperantly coming in V4L2
[04:07] <thaixstyle> i noticed that whenever i double click on the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor, my mouse turns into the "move" hand and becomes useless
[04:07] <quiche> rpedro, i do not have that directory
[04:07] <vaz> 5 usb devices but only 3 usb ports
[04:07] <thaixstyle> i end up doing ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:07] <rpedro> quiche: or rather, it should be a symbolic link
[04:07] <thaixstyle> is this a common issue?
[04:07] <ed1t> how do i open an application with sudo something from terminal but stay in the background so it doesnt close when i close terminal window ?
[04:07] <rpedro> quiche: ok, then try that command I gave
[04:07] <quiche> rpedro, how do I check for that?
[04:07] <quiche> rpedro, I'll look
[04:08] <BlueEagle> vaz: Well you can count on your machine having more devices than acutal ports. It's not uncommin.
[04:08] <BlueEagle> uncommon*
[04:08] <rpedro> quiche: 'ls /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri'
[04:08] <vaz> is there a difference in the way kubuntu and ubuntu configure devices?
[04:08] <BlueEagle> vaz: Still doesn't help in locating the illusive bluetooth device tho.
[04:08] <quiche> rpedro, no such file or directory
[04:08] <vaz> no
[04:08] <BlueEagle> vaz: There should be no difference tbh.
[04:08] <rpedro> quiche: try 'cd /usr/lib/xorg/modules/ && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/dri' then 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' (save all your work before you run this second command it restarts the X server)
[04:09] <BlueEagle> vaz: if you had the lspci and lsusb from kubuntu that would really help.
[04:09] <EriK_> visik7:  I had been planning to play with 'bootcd' that proclaims to "Build an image of your running Debian System with the command bootcdwrite. You can also build a bootcd ISO image via NFS on a remote System. When you run your system from CD you do not need any disks. All changes will be done in ram"
[04:09] <BlueEagle> vaz: if you could boot the kubuntu live cd and post it that would really be helpful.
[04:09] <EriK_> visik7:  have you played with that at all?
[04:09] <nalioth> !tell ed1t about gksudo
[04:09] <visik7> EriK_: with bootcd ?
[04:09] <nalioth> !tell ed1t about kdesu
[04:09] <vaz> dont have the cd with me right now
[04:09] <quiche> rpedro, actually, seeing as I currently have the working 8.25 drivers, I think it's best I reinstall the 8.27 drivers that I was having trouble with before before running any troubleshooting commands...
[04:09] <vaz> gave it to a friend
[04:09] <BlueEagle> vaz: ok.
[04:10] <vaz> BlueEagle: thank you for all your effort will get the cd and post
[04:10] <rpedro> quiche: you have them both installed !?
[04:10] <quiche> rpedro, I just found this site, which uses a different method, I'll be back when I've finished upgrading this second time ( http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide )
[04:10] <UbuntuJulez> hind3nburg, how do I activate the "back" and "forward" buttons on my mouse for web browsing?
[04:10] <rpedro> quiche: alright
[04:10] <quiche> rpedro, no, i uninstalled the newer, buggy ones, and went back to ones that worked for me
[04:10] <UbuntuJulez> grr..that should be hello or hi
[04:10] <BlueEagle> vaz: Well I must say that I am seriously stumped by this. :/
[04:10] <EriK_> vis: yes, as compared to reconstructor
[04:10] <UbuntuJulez> not a screen name
[04:11] <BlueEagle> vaz: the best suspects I've got is the network controller and the TI device. Of the two the former is the most likely imo.
[04:11] <visik7> EriK_: no I just trying reconstructor right now for the first time
[04:11] <owen_> how do you fix your file browser computer window, to show certain partitions?
[04:11] <BlueEagle> vaz: I am assuming that you haven't got wireless network working yet.
[04:11] <visik7> EriK_: seems It has some problem integrating some tool
[04:11] <visik7> EriK_: anyway is written in python
[04:11] <vaz> BlueEagle: No that worked out of the box
[04:11] <UbuntuJulez> owen_, if they are non-linux partititions, that may be why they aren't showing
[04:11] <visik7> EriK_: maybe I can read the source and write some docs
[04:11] <AstralJava> Heheh, I had bugzilla installation on for 6,5 hours (on a slow machine), and it still wasn't ready. It had eaten nearly 20 GB of disk space. Wonder what's going on with that... :)
[04:11] <visik7> EriK_: I'll see
[04:12] <EriK_> vis: then you might want to look at bootcd as well since it claims to do the same thing
[04:12] <vaz> everything works except for bluetooth and orbicam
[04:12] <ReWT_AxS> how do i burn an iso here in ubuntu?
[04:12] <BlueEagle> vaz: o'rly?
[04:12] <vaz> yeah
[04:12] <visik7> EriK_: let me see
[04:12] <vaz> ubuntu is fantastic
[04:12] <EriK_> heya Capsters!  Somebody I actually know!!! :))
[04:12] <BlueEagle> vaz: even if the network contorller is listed as "unknown device"? o.O
[04:12] <UbuntuJulez> anyone know how to activate other buttons on a mouse? such as back and forward web browing buttons
[04:12] <KrisW> hello yet again. What are some common causes for not being able to su into one user's login?
[04:13] <vaz> well I am on a wireless network now
[04:13] <KrisW> the same user isn't able to ssh in either
[04:13] <BlueEagle> vaz: Well then I'm really without any clue what so ever :(
[04:13] <visik7> EriK_: can you give me an url ?
[04:13] <capgadget> cdrecord  -overburn dev=/dev/cdrom filewhatever.iso
[04:13] <BlueEagle> vaz: How do you know that bluetooth isn't working? How did you test it?
[04:13] <visik7> EriK_: oh is a package
[04:14] <vaz> well I used bluez-utils
[04:14] <ReWT_AxS> any gui that does it?
[04:14] <visik7> EriK_: but creates a live or an installer ?
[04:14] <vaz> it cannot find a device
[04:14] <EriK_> visik: yes, 'bootcd' is the pkg name, I don't have it on this machine but I'm apt-get'ing it now
[04:14] <BlueEagle> vaz: Well then I really do not know, sorry. :/
[04:14] <vaz> plus the power button doesnt light up
[04:14] <visik7> EriK_:  reconstructor create a livecd-installer
[04:14] <visik7> not only a livecd
[04:15] <vaz> BlueEagle: thank you and no worries. If I find the solution I ll put it up on the forum
[04:15] <EriK_> ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, but one that has the espresso or whatever installer, etc.
[04:15] <martalli> I just installed nvidia drivers through automatix, and I appear to have nice, accelerated graphics, but now my screen resolution is stuck at 800x600.  I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg to reset my options (I had to do that in the first place, actually).  Even after reboot, I have no other options other than 800x600.  See my xorg.conf (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20164), seems like I should have 1280x1024 and 1024x768, too....
[04:15] <martalli> Is there another way to change the screen resolution?
[04:15] <vaz> BlueEagle: take care and bye
[04:15] <visik7> EriK_: espresso ?
[04:15] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell martalli about automatix
[04:16] <KrisW> can anyone help me with su?
[04:16] <EriK_> whatever the graphical installer on the ubuntu live cd is called
[04:16] <EriK_> something coffee-related
[04:16] <azureal> does synaptic depend on gnome?
[04:16] <martalli> my question's not really automatix related...but looking for another way to change screen resolution...
[04:16] <EriK_> gnome no, gtk/etc., yes
[04:17] <BlueEagle> azureal: I think it uses gtk which incidentally is the same widget library that gnome uses
[04:17] <martalli> azureal - kubuntu and mepis  use synaptic, also
[04:17] <azureal> i'm just about to uninstall gnome, so i'm wondering what i'll lose =P
[04:17] <visik7> kubuntu use adept not synaptic
[04:17] <KrisW> when I try to su into one user I'm returned to the prompt of whatever user I was before I tried to su, but I can su into all other users
[04:17] <azureal> the only thing i'll miss is the gnome-volume-control, i think ;)
[04:17] <visik7> but you can still use synaptic if you like
[04:17] <martalli> Ahh, then maybe only mepis
[04:17] <BlueEagle> martalli: If it you've used automatix than all your questions are automatix related as it was automatix that borked your config.
[04:17] <KrisW> :-/
[04:17] <martalli> ok bluueeagle, i'll ask there
[04:18] <BlueEagle> martalli: The only way we can get automatix to behave properly is to make the developers see what is wrong with automatix.
[04:18] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Haven't died. It's just taking forever to install. :-)
[04:18] <BlueEagle> martalli: so please please go there and ask them. :)
[04:18] <KrisW> does anyone here know anything at all about su?
[04:18] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: Well on a machine from the 90-s that's to be expected. How are you for ram on that box?
[04:19] <KrisW> I mean with 779 users in the channel (most idle but even then...) *someone*'s gotta know
[04:19] <azureal> your question is not comprehendable, krisw
[04:19] <BlueEagle> krisw: su or sudo?
[04:19] <toddobryan> Umm...1.5gigs.
[04:19] <KrisW> su
[04:19] <KrisW> sudo su - root
[04:19] <KrisW> for example
[04:19] <KrisW> works fine
[04:19] <martalli> What in particular do you want to know about su?
[04:19] <BlueEagle> krisw: what is there to know about su?
[04:19] <azureal> KrisW, go scroll back and re-read what you wrote
[04:19] <BlueEagle> ...or rather what do you want to know about su? (as martalli asked)
[04:20] <toddobryan> We were using it as a thin-client server. Dual 800MHz P5s, and nice amounts of memory. But it is old.
[04:20] <ReWT_AxS> what program burns iso's in linux?
[04:20] <KrisW> sudo su - username isn't working for one username
[04:20] <KrisW> the rest all work fine
[04:20] <yey> hi
[04:20] <martalli> ReWt_AxS k3b (in kde distros)
[04:20] <KrisW> I'm not sure how to phrase it any better
[04:20] <azureal> 'the rest' ???
[04:20] <bimberi> ReWT_AxS: nautilus, right-click on the iso file, select write to disc
[04:20] <KrisW> yes, all other usernames
[04:20] <ReWT_AxS> k
[04:20] <KrisW> I don't see how this is so complicated...
[04:21] <martalli> Maybe that user needs to be added to a group...
[04:21] <KrisW> the user is in a group
[04:21] <azureal> krisw: you're impatient and you're not phrasing your questions clearly
[04:21] <KrisW> the user has /bin/bash access
[04:21] <martalli> well, a group like sudo, etc. (I wouldn't be sure which one right off the top of my head)
[04:21] <yey> I have a problem with synaptic I cannot do anything (no packages), it just displays:
[04:21] <yey> E: The package vim70 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:21] <yey> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[04:21] <EriK_> martalli:  sorry I have been out of the convo for a few minutes, but have you tried running /usr/bin/gnome-display-properties wrt changing screen rez?
[04:21] <yey> vim70 was uninstalled and deleted...
[04:21] <KrisW> most of the users on my ubuntu server have a username and group that is the same
[04:21] <quiche> rpedro, the method on that site worked for me, thanks for your help anyway :)
[04:22] <rpedro> quiche: ok, np ;)
[04:22] <traviss> so, wheneverr i try to install the flash plugin in firefox, it tells me it failed..
[04:22] <KrisW> this one is the same in that respect as all the others
[04:22] <martalli> Erik_ I'll give it a try - should I run that sudo (I'm relatively new to ubuntu and gnome - I'm a mepis / mandriva refugee lol)
[04:22] <BlueEagle> krisw: does the user have a password?
[04:22] <bimberi> KrisW: is there something in the user's shell login stuff that just immediately kicks them out?  ~username/.bash_profile  for example
[04:22] <quiche> rpedro, perhaps though, you can help me with another question, which was my ultimate problem anyway and the reason I was trying to upgrade my fglrx drivers
[04:22] <dougsko> hi everyone
[04:23] <KrisW> bimberi, that's a good question, the user's home directory is not in /home/username
[04:23] <shawnz> does anyone know which branches / is a union of on the livecd?
[04:23] <martalli> Erik_ That's not working for me...only offers 800x600, 60Hz
[04:23] <KrisW> so there is no .bash_profile
[04:23] <bimberi> KrisW: does the directory exist?
[04:23] <EriK_> martalli:  try it sudo/gksudo if it fails as a plebe, on my boxes it runs fine as me
[04:23] <KrisW> the user's home directory is /var/www/username
[04:23] <quiche> Resizing is horribly slow when using XGL/compiz, other operations are snappy, but resizing is slow, also maximizing is delayed.   an internet search shows that it's a fairly common problem, I was unable to find a solution though
[04:24] <Pirate-King> hello
[04:24] <BlueEagle> ouch
[04:24] <bimberi> KrisW: does 'sudo su username' work?
[04:24] <JJ|Laptop> does anyone know what kernel ubunto v5.04 uses?
[04:24] <martalli> Erik_ same results when I sudo the command
[04:24] <KrisW> bimberi, that's what I'm trying to do
[04:24] <KrisW> bimberi, that's why I've got a problem hehe
[04:24] <bimberi> KrisW: no, without the "-"
[04:24] <KrisW> oh ok
[04:24] <KrisW> I'll try
[04:24] <EriK_> martalli:  have a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what resolutions are listed under screen->display
[04:24] <azureal> rofl @ bimberi
[04:25] <Nimwei> what was teh name for the ICE gui?
[04:25] <KrisW> no, it still returns me to the prompt
[04:25] <Nimwei> and if i install it hand-in-hand with Gnome, is it going to cause problems?
[04:25] <EriK_> martalli: it is easy to change that file, but you will have to be root, make you BACK IT UP first, and you will need to restart X for it to take effect (control-alt-backspace for the impatient)
[04:25] <bimberi> KrisW: hm, probably not an issue with login scripts then (the "-" is the signal to run them)
[04:26] <EriK_> s/make you/make sure you/
[04:26] <martalli> Erik_ I posted the xorg.conf to pastebin  (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20164), and it appears to show several resoltuions besides 800x600...
[04:26] <BlueEagle> krisw: did you try sudo -u <username> /bin/bash ?
[04:26] <BlueEagle> "sudo [-HPSb]  [-a auth_type]  [-c class|-]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid]  {-e file [...]  | -i | -s | command}" (from man sudo)
[04:26] <KrisW> BlueEagle, that worked! :D
[04:26] <KrisW> thanks! :D
[04:26] <EriK_> martalli:  in case somebody else didn't ask, does control-alt+plus, control-alt-minus do anything at all?
[04:27] <KrisW> now, do I need to do that every time I want to log into this user?
[04:27] <BlueEagle> krisw: There you go. Reading the friendly manual (RTFM) can actually help.
[04:27] <bimberi> BlueEagle: nice one :)
[04:27] <shawnz> KrisW: whats your issue? o.o
[04:27] <shawnz> BlueEagle: rtfm? thats what they call a hack
[04:27] <bimberi> interesting that su doesn't tho
[04:27] <shawnz> not a fix.
[04:27] <martalli> EriK_  Didn't work...I've never heard of doing that before - is that a gnome trick?
[04:27] <Nimwei> hmm..i keep getting an error: "The X server is now disabled. Please restart GDM when it is configured correctlyl."
[04:27] <KrisW> shawnz, I don't know what the issue is,  that's why I didn't rtfm
[04:27] <shawnz> KrisW: i meant, whats not working
[04:27] <sdferfx> I'm installing an Ubuntu system onto another partition with debootstrap. That's all fine and good, and I'm chrooted into it. I'm following this guide which tells me to run base-config to set up a user, but apparently base-config is obsolete now! How do I setup a user and all that? http://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apcs03.html
[04:28] <BlueEagle> krisw: well did you set a password for the user?
[04:28] <KrisW> shawnz, can't su into a specific username
[04:28] <KrisW> BlueEagle, yes.
[04:28] <shawnz> KrisW: yes but what error
[04:28] <rpedro> quiche: maybe someone in #ubuntu-xgl knows , I don't have XGL installed at the moment but when I it didn't have those issues, though I think I remember some similar problems when I tried AIGLX
[04:28] <KrisW> shawnz, no error, just returns me to the prompt
[04:28] <shawnz> KrisW: is a shell set up for the user?
[04:28] <BlueEagle> krisw: then what's wrong with: su - username
[04:28] <BlueEagle> krisw: ie without sudo
[04:29] <shawnz> KrisW: if you don't have a bash_profile i'm starting to think your user has some crazy shell set for it
[04:29] <BlueEagle> krisw: remember to specify the user password with su and your password with sudo. :)
[04:29] <nry> hi ppl
[04:29] <KrisW> shawnz, I set the user to use /bin/bash in the gui Users and Groups dialog in gnome if that's what you mean
[04:30] <shawnz> krisw: do a cat /etc/passwd as root, and see if /bin/bash shows up beside the user
[04:30] <Nimwei> Gah, i hate install problems. :P
[04:30] <KrisW> BlueEagle, with or without sudo it's the same result
[04:30] <EriK_> martalli:  control-alt-plus/minus to shift resolution is part of X itself, although it can be disabled.  It's from the same people that give you control-alt-backspace when you are parranoid
[04:30] <BlueEagle> krisw: also logging in as that user to start with will keep you from having to mess with su alltogether.
[04:30] <EriK_> martalli:  is the display in question an lcd panel that you wish to run at only it's native resolution?
[04:30] <martalli> ctl-alt-backspace?
[04:30] <KrisW> The user was automaticly created by the install script of a web app I'm trying to get running
[04:30] <martalli> no, its a good ole crt (Dell 1025htx)
[04:31] <EriK_> nukes your x server, don't try it on accident
[04:31] <shawnz> BlueEagle: logging in as them is a lot different than needing to su to them.
[04:31] <KrisW> so I have no clue what the install script gave it heh
[04:31] <quiche> rpedro, I found the logout without confirmation keyboard shortcut
[04:31] <quiche> rpedro, lucky me
[04:31] <KrisW> the user had no /bin/bash before I started manually messing with things
[04:31] <shawnz> KrisW: what does a "cat /etc/passwd | grep username" give you?
[04:31] <EriK_> martalli:  still, you might just try making a backup of that file and then removing everything except "1280x1024" (if that is what you want)
[04:31] <martalli> lol - there's no ctrl-e (restart xserver) witht he gdm login, I tried ctrl-alt1 and killall gdm to restart ot
[04:31] <quiche> rpedro, but yeah  I was just about to mention that there should be a XGL channel since so many problems arise from it
[04:31] <martalli> EriK_ I think I will give that a try
[04:31] <quiche> thanks for tipping me off
[04:31] <walkingmac> alls good with me and I will use ubuntu before M$ ever again
[04:32] <EriK_> martalli:  *then* try that control-alt-backsapce
[04:32] <shawnz> martalli: ctrl+alt+backspace restarts x on ubuntu
[04:32] <EriK_> if it's enabled....you will know
[04:32] <EriK_> fastest boss/spouse key known to manking
[04:32] <KrisW> ok int /etc/password it's got /bin/false
[04:32] <EriK_> s/manking/mankind/
[04:32] <KrisW> that's the problem
[04:32] <traviss> where does the libflashplayer.so go ... ie where is the firefox plugins? because flash refuses to install
[04:32] <Nimwei> why the hell does the X server fail from a fresh installation? Any ideas on common problems?
[04:32] <shawnz> KrisW: yes that'd be it
[04:32] <eVo-lastjuror> hi
[04:32] <shawnz> change it to /bin/bash
[04:32] <shawnz> and you're good
[04:32] <KrisW> so why didn't the gui change that?
[04:32] <eVo-lastjuror> i am trying to install dapper
[04:32] <shawnz> KrisW: ...we're talking about the same OS, right?
[04:33] <Nimwei> Failed to start the X server. It is likely that it is not setup correctly. Would you like to view the X serveroutput?
[04:33] <BlueEagle> traviss: did you do !flash ?
[04:33] <eVo-lastjuror> got the error"buffer i/o error on device hdd"
[04:33] <traviss> !flash
[04:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:33] <traviss> i have now.
[04:33] <EriK_> Nimwei:  this is a virgin install?  does it work from the livecd?  what chipset?
[04:33] <shawnz> Nimwei: are you using some zany graphics card?
[04:33] <toddobryan> Nimwei: some video cards are tricky.
[04:33] <KrisW> shawnz, this is the ubuntu channel isn't it? ;)
[04:33] <Pirate-King> was thinking of installing ubuntu on mydell laptop is wireless easy with ubuntu?
[04:33] <KrisW> if not I'm in the wrong spot hehe
[04:33] <shawnz> KrisW: well i was implying that linux isn't exactly the least flaky os :p
[04:33] <BlueEagle> traviss: ....and did you read those links that ubotu provided
[04:33] <BlueEagle> `
[04:33] <eVo-lastjuror> My configuration is Athlon 1.67Ghz,Seagate 40 GB,Asus Motherboard
[04:33] <toddobryan> Pirate-King: As a relative newbie, I can say yes.
[04:34] <toddobryan> Pirate-King: Unless it isn't. Some wifi cards can be a pain.
[04:34] <Nimwei> It is an IBM Netfinity 5600 server.  I'm installing from the ALTERNATE CD.  I just finished an "OEM" install.  I previously had it working under a "text" install.
[04:34] <Pirate-King> ok did you have to configure lots?
[04:34] <traviss> yeah thanks
[04:34] <shawnz> Pirate-King: assuming everything is supported, there's a big button for it
[04:34] <quiche> does anyone know of a gnome applet that puts the application menu in the gnome panel?
[04:34] <KrisW> shawnz, yeah, I'm actually not too bad with linux either, it's just sometimes flukes like this throw a monkeywrench in everything
[04:34] <Pirate-King> ok
[04:34] <EriK_> Pirate-King:  unless it has a broadcomm wireless chipset, it is very easy
[04:34] <Pirate-King> where do I find what is supported?
[04:34] <bruenig> travis, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[04:34] <shawnz> KrisW: no kidding, i put a font in the wrong directory, x didn't start
[04:35] <toddobryan> Pirate-King: I suggest trying to get the LiveCD working before you commit to the install.
[04:35] <shawnz> was trying to fix it for a week
[04:35] <KrisW> haha
[04:35] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: is your cdrom or dvdrom set as the secondary slave?
[04:35] <KrisW> I believe it
[04:35] <shawnz> reconfiguring and reinstalling
[04:35] <toddobryan> Nimwei: Any idea which video chip it has inside?
[04:35] <shawnz> then i finally thought
[04:35] <shawnz> delete that font i put there
[04:35] <Nimwei> toddobryan - I can go find out, one second.
[04:35] <shawnz> and boom it starts working. :p
[04:35] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: have you got more than one cd-/dvd-rom drive?
[04:35] <Pirate-King> ok  good Idea
[04:35] <KrisW> I spent a week trying to get my wacom tablet properly functioning in ubuntu, this username stuff is the worst I've had since then
[04:35] <Nimwei> while i'm here, what was that command to delete the OEM stuff? "oem-post-configure" or something.
[04:35] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: Yes. DVD ROM and DVDRW
[04:35] <EriK_> Pirate-King:  I agree with todd, although anything except some broadcomm chipsets work out of the box....the broadcomm's can be made to work, it's just a minor pita (that you only go through once)
[04:35] <Pirate-King> Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection is what I got
[04:36] <KrisW> ok I can su into the username without problems now
[04:36] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: is your 40GB segate drive IDE, SCSI or SATA?
[04:36] <KrisW> thanks everyone! :D
[04:36] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: IDE
[04:36] <shawnz> Nimwei: oem stuff?
[04:36] <redcard> My biggest problem in Ubuntu is deciding what media player to use :P
[04:36] <hyphenated> Pirate-King: my one of that works very nicely
[04:36] <wirelain> Hm, anyone have a link to a good overall hardware burn-in tester? (ubuntu is randomly locking up, but i'm pretty sure it's not ubuntu's fault, same symptims described for windows 98 too)
[04:36] <Pirate-King> ok
[04:36] <redcard> And what to get my podcasts with :P
[04:36] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: I hope the DVD drive is a secondary slave
[04:36] <Pirate-King> you guys are pretty cool here
[04:36] <Pirate-King> lots of help
[04:36] <EriK_> wirelain: try the memtester86 on the cd first, if you haven't already
[04:36] <shawnz> wirelain: when starting, before "unpacking linux..." hit ESC madly to get into the grub menu comes up
[04:37] <shawnz> -comes up
[04:37] <shawnz> then you can select "memory test"
[04:37] <shawnz> or whatever they're calling it now
[04:37] <Pirate-King> is it alot like debian  lines?
[04:37] <bruenig> shawnz, lol hit escape madly, that timeout is sure fun to try to beat
[04:37] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: Ok. Add this to your kernel parameters in menu.lst: hdd=noprobe
[04:37] <shawnz> bruenig: its the easiest way to explain it
[04:37] <shawnz> Pirate-King: ubuntu _is_ debian with fancy pictures
[04:37] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: if that makes the drive unavailible also add: hdd=cdrom
[04:37] <Pirate-King> ok
[04:38] <EriK_> Pirate-King:  I assume this is a 54g (or g/a) setup that Dell sold as a "Dell TrueMobile xxxxxxxx" ?
[04:38] <shawnz> in fact, there's an /etc/debian-version file
[04:38] <wirelain> EriK_: i'm pretty sure it's not the ram, that was not part of the original system that was known to be issues, and i ran a cursory memtest alredy from my first failing install cd.
[04:38] <wirelain> what exactly is gruib?
[04:38] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: how to add it?
[04:38] <Pirate-King> yeah
[04:38] <bruenig> grub, is a boot loader
[04:38] <wirelain> er grub
[04:38] <Pirate-King> there is a grub boot loader too
[04:39] <shawnz> wirelain: GRUB is the program that starts before linux does -- it loads an OS and boots to it
[04:39] <bruenig> !grub
[04:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:39] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:39] <Pirate-King> good used that a bit witth suse
[04:39] <shawnz> BlueEagle: sudoedit works too
[04:39] <Nimwei> toddobryan - Still looking for the chipset. I know its intel.
[04:39] <hav0k> does anyone know anything about problems with messed up videos?
[04:40] <George> how do I remove the whole of the [k/b/x] ubuntu-desktop package? ie - delete the whole of kde/gnome/xfce?
[04:40] <shawnz> messed up in what way hav0k
[04:40] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: You getting installed yet?
[04:40] <wirelain> Ok, i will run that ... but i've been out of the desktop support world so long that i no longer have a overall burning tester ...
[04:40] <shawnz> George: its rather hard once installed
[04:40] <cory> i'm having alot of trouble with X with my 3 monitor setup. i want 3 seperate screens. eg. no xinerama. is this possible? twinview and the rest seem to limit me to 2. any time i activate my 3rd screen, it seems to turn xinerama on
[04:40] <Pirate-King> which download do I want? desktop?
[04:40] <shawnz> George: as far as i know, you can't chain-remove a package and everything it depended on and so on
[04:40] <hyphenated> Pirate-King: usually, yes.
[04:40] <EriK_> wirelain: even if the ram is not defective, that will often keep a system busy enough as to trigger other problems....and everybody has it.....I just always suggest it as a place to start
[04:40] <Pirate-King> ok
[04:40] <wirelain> Pirate-King: if you don't know what you want, you probably want desktop.
[04:41] <Pirate-King> ok
[04:41] <hyphenated> Pirate-King: it's a live cd with an installer built in
[04:41] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle : do i have to type this in the installation screen?
[04:41] <George> shawnz: hrmm.
[04:41] <wirelain> understood, it's running now while i hunt ...
[04:41] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle :or edit some files?
[04:41] <Nimwei> toddobryan - My video chipset is an S3 TRIO 3D
[04:41] <Pirate-King> yeah but after if live cd works
[04:41] <cellach> hello, alll..... quick question for you
[04:41] <hav0k> i downloaded a music video off democracyplayer and its an mp4 and when i try to play it, i get a green bar at the top and the video is all messed up
[04:41] <garrett_> Hey #ubuntu, problems with widescreen E1505 and ATI drivers...can't get it to work with higher and widescreen resolutions. Help?
[04:41] <shawnz> George: you could surf the dpkg docs, but there's no way afaik,
[04:41] <EriK_> if memtest can make it lock, even if it's not the ram, you can start pulling/swapping other stuff
[04:41] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: Oh, I'm sorry. I assumed that you had ubuntu already installed.
[04:41] <wirelain> Pirate-King: I recommend torrent download unless you are familiar with checking md5 hashes.
[04:41] <hav0k> i think it also messes up when i try to play and xvid video
[04:41] <cellach> what is the default username/password for root?
[04:41] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: nopes. Just began the installation
[04:41] <bruenig> cellach, there is no root by default
[04:41] <Pirate-King> nope
[04:41] <Nimwei> cellach, the username is root. when you boot the box up do "sudo passwd root"
[04:42] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: I am at an early stage
[04:42] <shawnz> hav0k: well, just a guess, but last time that happened to me i was playing a DRM-encrypted wmv, so...
[04:42] <bruenig> cellach, what are you doing that needs root?
[04:42] <Pirate-King> not familliar with md hashes
[04:42] <cellach> bruenig... installing a printer driver
[04:42] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: if you're attempting to run off the live cd you want to add that to kernel parameters. Check the bottom of the screen when you boot. It should read F4 additional kernel parameters or something in that nature.
[04:42] <hav0k> ...well, what do i do about it?
[04:42] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: it might be hidden under advanced.
[04:42] <hav0k> i mean, ive downloaded other videos that work fine
[04:42] <shawnz> i'm saying, the video might be encrypted, hav0k
[04:42] <yey> hi
[04:42] <hav0k> is it not something that i could prngobably fix with a new codec or somethi
[04:42] <George> shawnz: never mind, I searched for "kde" in the adept package manager and told it to remove everything that was installed :)
[04:43] <xerophyte_> OSSEC-HIDS what do you guys think about it .. does anybody use it ???
[04:43] <bruenig> cellach, if you are familiar with the command line, you can just precede commands on it with sudo and then type your username's password and it work as root
[04:43] <Nimwei> shawnz - My video adapter is an S3 Trio 3D.  What should I check the X11.conf for as far as video settings.
[04:43] <BlueEagle> hav0k: sounds like that one file in particular is corrupt then.
[04:43] <wirelain> !torrent
[04:43] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt) Bittorent faq: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:43] <cellach> ah.. thanks
[04:43] <EriK_> garrett_:  look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try gnome-display-properties
[04:43] <yey> Could you tell me how can I hibernate from console? In suse it was powersave -U and in ubuntu? how can I do that?
[04:43] <EriK_> for starters
[04:43] <yey> ?
[04:43] <wirelain> download a torrent file, install client, double click file .,..
[04:43] <shawnz> Nimwei: Driver                            "S3"
[04:43] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: is that like an option?
[04:43] <shawnz> or somethin
[04:43] <shawnz> g
[04:43] <Pirate-King> does anybody have the link to live cd?
[04:44] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: just enable it?
[04:44] <hav0k> so there's no fix... just cant watch them in linux
[04:44] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: Yes. when you boot (the first screen you get I believe) you've got that option. Should be listed along the bottom.
[04:44] <Nimwei> shawnz - Device "S3 Inc. Trio 64 3D"
[04:44] <yey> BlueEagle: how can I hibernate from console? (command)
[04:44] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: you don't enable it. You press a key and get a input line where you can add kernel parameters.
[04:44] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: Ok. lemme try and come back to u
[04:44] <Nimwei> shawnz - looks like it found it.
[04:44] <bruenig> Pirate-King, ubuntu.com followed by download
[04:44] <shawnz> Nimwei: where
[04:45] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: Trying to install in the same PC
[04:45] <Pirate-King> ok
[04:45] <garrett_> EriK_, gnome-display-properties only shows a max 1024x768 resolution, which is 4:3 and lower than what my monitor is capable of. I've attempted to install fglrx an ati drivers to no avail. gnome-display-properties won't show any higher resolution.
[04:45] <BlueEagle> yey: Just put your forehead on your keyboard and sleep?
[04:45] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: Thank god i didnt format c: drive
[04:45] <Nimwei> in my x11.conf file.
[04:45] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: :)
[04:45] <shawnz> Nimwei: that line isn't what i meant
[04:45] <yey> BlueEagle: :P I have used to do (in SUSE) : sleep 30m && powersave -U
[04:45] <BlueEagle> yey: I am sorry if I gave you the impression that I knew the answer to that question by completely ignoring it. ;D
[04:46] <shawnz> Nimwei: you're looking at Identifier
[04:46] <shawnz> i mean the one before it
[04:46] <Nimwei> Ah. One second.
[04:46] <shawnz> or after, rather
[04:46] <redcard> I love how people blame linux for people who choose not to use open formats.
[04:46] <quiche> does anyone know of a gnome applet that displays the menu of the foreground application?
[04:46] <Nimwei> in the Xorg.0.log file at the bottom it says "Fatal error: no screens found" - let me go find the driver file you're looking at.
[04:46] <BlueEagle> yey: that was refering to the first time you asked it w/o directing it spesifically to me. :)
[04:46] <EriK_> yey: you need to install package powersaved and it will work exactly as before
[04:46] <EriK_> (or should)
[04:47] <EriK_> yey: "sudo apt-get install powersaved"
[04:47] <shawnz> EriK_: is that in the default repos?
[04:47] <bruenig> !info powersaved
[04:47] <ubotu> powersaved: power management daemon. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.12.15-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 376 kB, installed size 1852 kB
[04:47] <bruenig> universe
[04:47] <EriK_> universe
[04:47] <Nimwei> shawnz - driver is neomagic.
[04:47] <toddobryan> Nimwei: Sorry. I was distracted.
[04:48] <Nimwei> toddobryan - no prob.
[04:48] <shawnz> Nimwei: try changing that to "s3"
[04:48] <shawnz> and saving
[04:48] <yey> EriK_: but hibernation works already, do I really need additional packages?
[04:48] <garrett_> EriK_, any ideas?
[04:48] <EriK_> garrett_:  does the xorg.conf show the resolutions you desire?
[04:48] <shawnz> yey: that package contains the powersave tool...
[04:48] <Nimwei> xorg.conf is set to readonly..how do I fix that
[04:48] <Nimwei> chmod it to 777?
[04:48] <garrett_> EriK_, yes, it does.
[04:48] <shawnz> Nimwei: no
[04:48] <shawnz> just edit it as root
[04:49] <PresGas> Hey, can anyone remember an application that will let one instant message via an IRC program?  I stumbled across it a number of months ago and cannot remember it
[04:49] <EriK_> yey: perhaps there is another way to do it, but if you want to do it just like you did under suse....there ya go
[04:49] <shawnz> PresGas: xchat?
[04:49] <TehUni> i'm having alot of trouble with X with my 3 monitor setup. i want 3 seperate screens. eg. no xinerama. is this possible? twinview and the rest seem to limit me to 2. any time i activate my 3rd screen, it seems to turn xinerama on
[04:49] <bruenig> Nimwei, do sudo gedit xorg.conf
[04:49] <Nimwei> got it.
[04:49] <BlueEagle> presgas: IRC is instant messaging isn't it?
[04:49] <Nimwei> I've also got a "/dev/wacom" that can't be found.
[04:49] <garrett_> EriK_, I say that and just went and looked...but it doesn't at the moment. It did at one time. Heh.
[04:49] <BlueEagle> presgas: are you thinking about trillian (an im client that also can do irc)?
[04:49] <garrett_> I'll try updating the resolutions. Restart X and see where that gets me. I'll be back, I'm sure.
[04:49] <PresGas> BlueEagle, Indeed...and some would say it is better
[04:50] <shawnz> PresGas: xchat?
[04:50] <EriK_> garrett_:  put on your superman costume, backup the file, muck with it, restart x, and play
[04:50] <BlueEagle> presgas: well there you go. :)
[04:50] <shawnz> oh trillian
[04:50] <shawnz> :<
[04:50] <shawnr_> Help!   In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 152 kB
[04:51] <shawnz> Nimwei: you can just type "gdm" you know :p
[04:51] <Pirate-King> there is no live cd for ubuntu 6.06?
[04:51] <bruenig> might favorite keyboard shortcut program
[04:51] <Nimwei> lol
[04:51] <Nimwei> that helps :)
[04:51] <shawnz> anyway, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:51] <shawnr_> lol i doubt i need to do that
[04:52] <shawnz> and fill that out with proper defaults
[04:52] <shawnr_> i have proper defaults
[04:52] <shawnr_> some of them work
[04:52] <shawnr_> but not all of them
[04:52] <shawnz> i didn't say you
[04:52] <shawnz> i meant Nimwei.
[04:52] <Nimwei> GDM Already running..>Aborting!
[04:52] <shawnz> Nimwei: you have to do sudo killall gdm first :p
[04:52] <Nimwei> lol
[04:52] <A2A> anyone try the new KateOS that was released today? How does it compare toXubuntu, since it also uses Xfce?
[04:52] <garrett_> EriK_, no dice.
[04:52] <BlueEagle> ...or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:52] <Nimwei> i'm a linux newb if you can't tell. i know basics..that's about it.
[04:52] <Nimwei> I did the restart.
[04:53] <BlueEagle> ..and you still got "is sitll running"?
[04:53] <garrett_> EriK_, added 1280x768 into the xorg.conf file and...gnome-display-properties still shows the max of 1024.768.
[04:53] <BlueEagle> s/is still/already/
[04:53] <shawnz> BlueEagle: they meant they did the restart now
[04:53] <bruenig> A2A, if you want a good xfce distro, dreamlinux is awesome, and it's debian based
[04:53] <Nimwei> shawnz - ok, still the same error.  Failed to start, blah blah blah.
[04:53] <yey> EriK_: :(
[04:53] <shawnz> Nimwei: choose to see logs
[04:53] <yey> EriK_: I cannot install powersaved :(
[04:53] <shawnz> look for lines starting with (EE)
[04:53] <Coruscant> haxxorz ?
[04:53] <BlueEagle> shawnz: Well I'm going to bed now. The channel is all yours. :p
[04:53] <shawnz> yey: why
[04:54] <yey> EriK_: E: The package vim70 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:54] <yey> shawnz: :(
[04:54] <BlueEagle> yey: rofl.
[04:54] <A2A> ~[ bruenig ] ~ thanks, im using Xubuntu and Ubuntu server, so just was wondering whats comes close :-)
[04:54] <yey> BlueEagle: that's not funny :(
[04:54] <Nimwei> shawnz - Ok, failed to load module s3, module does not exist.
[04:54] <Pirate-King> what a good torrent program?
[04:55] <yey> BlueEagle: could you help me with that?
[04:55] <Nimwei> shawnz - Also, failed to load module wacom module does not exist.
[04:55] <BlueEagle> yey: Well it's 4:52 am here and to me it's quite funny to me.
[04:55] <shawnz> Nimwei: AHA
[04:55] <Nimwei> heh - so where do I download 'em?
[04:55] <shawnz> you don't.
[04:55] <BlueEagle> yey: Sorry I am going to bed. I'm so tired that I find apt attempting to reinstall vim7.0 funny. :/
[04:55] <yey> BlueEagle: vim already works
[04:55] <Coruscant> how do i use alein rpm - deb converter
[04:55] <Nimwei> ok, so what do i do? =P
[04:56] <shawnz> nimewi: go back in and change the thing you changed back to "neomagic"
[04:56] <yey> BlueEagle: wait a moment ;P
[04:56] <BlueEagle> yey: I'll look up the apt manual and see if there's a way to get it to ignore a package that it thinks is broken.
[04:56] <shawnz> Nimwei: and before you save, you'll have three secionds
[04:56] <shawnz> Nimwei: three sections called "Section "InputDevice"" that start with "Driver "wacom""
[04:56] <shawnz> delete those three
[04:56] <Nimwei> ok
[04:57] <garrett_> Anyone: ATI driver install help?
[04:57] <garrett_> Or fglrx.
[04:57] <Trae> how can I find out the 0,x,0 of my dvd drive?  it's hdb
[04:57] <Coruscant> how do i use alein rpm - deb converter
[04:57] <Trae> but that doesn't tell me the exact devicce number
[04:57] <shawnz> Coruscant: type "alien package.rpm/package.tar/etc" and go away for a few minutes.
[04:58] <corey> how do I add resolutions to dapper?
[04:58] <wendyalison> Hello, I would like to know how to have sound playing for flash animations in mozilla
[04:58] <shawnz> it makes a .deb for you in the same folder
[04:58] <Trae> I need the cdrecord device
[04:58] <BlueEagle> yey: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-erros.en.html might help
[04:58] <BlueEagle> yey: no guarantees tho
[04:58] <yey> BlueEagle: I compiled vim myself, it didn't work from debs. When I try to do: dpkg --remove vim70, I get: http://www.wklej.org/id/565117448f
[04:58] <Nimwei> is there a way to delete a line at a time in VI? heh
[04:58] <corey> i added one to my xorg.conf but it doesn't show up in the screen resolution dialog
[04:58] <anthony> nux
[04:58] <shawnz> Nimwei: use nano
[04:58] <shawnz> its easier
[04:58] <anthony> join #linux
[04:58] <abhinay> where the apt cache is stored ?
[04:58] <Nimwei> abhinay - /var/cache/apt I believe
[04:58] <garrett_> corey, I'm having the same problem. =X
[04:59] <wendyalison> I've installed the flash plugin for mozilla, the animation works but there's no sound
[04:59] <BlueEagle> nn all
[04:59] <Coruscant> shawnz um so alien package.rpm/package.tar/etc? do i put in both?
[04:59] <redcard> Nimwei: I think 'dd' in command mode will delete a line
[04:59] <yey> BlueEagle:
[04:59] <Coruscant> or just one?
[04:59] <corey> garrett_, At least its not just me. I feel your pain
[04:59] <shawnz> Coruscant: .....um
[04:59] <abhinay> Nimwei: ty
[04:59] <yey> I did dpkg --purge vim70, maybe that caused that problem?
[04:59] <garrett_> corey, What kind of system/hardware do you have? Drivers?
[04:59] <shawnz> i implied you're supposed to replace that with the name of the package, Coruscant.
[04:59] <BlueEagle> yey: I really really do not know.
[04:59] <corey> garrett_, its DVI to my tv
[04:59] <yey> ;(((((((((((((((!
[04:59] <corey> it supports 960x720 but I'm only getting 800x600 :(
[05:00] <Coruscant> like alien package.rpm/ for a rpm and  alien package.tar/ for tars?
[05:00] <BlueEagle> yey: if I do know then I'm to tired to remember.
[05:00] <thaixstyle> ok....i'm an ubuntu noob
[05:00] <shawnz> Coruscant: no silly
[05:00] <Coruscant> idk
[05:00] <shawnz> just "alien the_package_file_name"
[05:00] <thaixstyle> and this is really kickin my ass
[05:00] <garrett_> corey, ATI Mobility X1300 on my Dell E1505 laptop.
[05:00] <Coruscant> oh thanks shawnz ill try it and let you know
[05:00] <thaixstyle> Ubuntu is just not stable  for some reason
[05:01] <phonic_> where can i chat about love?
[05:01] <Nimwei> now i have to go and delete all traces of the wacom devices it tried to install..a tablet pc, a stylus, and a cursor.
[05:01] <Nimwei> ugh
[05:01] <thaixstyle> it identifies all my hardware just fine
[05:01] <redcard> thaixstyle: Define "not stable"
[05:01] <phonic_> server names?
[05:01] <garrett_> phonic_, how about #love?
[05:01] <wendyalison> Is there ANY help i can get for getting flash to work with firefox???  The only problem I have is that there's no sound!
[05:01] <shawnz> Nimwei: it ads it for me after a dpkg-reconfigure some times too
[05:01] <thaixstyle> redcard: my mouse will become none functioning
[05:01] <thaixstyle> i can move it
[05:01] <thaixstyle> but it won't click on anything
[05:02] <phonic_> garret-never heard of it but thanx
[05:02] <thebishop> is there a repo with more recent versions of Wine?
[05:02] <thaixstyle> i can't even ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:02] <shawnz> thebishop: wine-hq has a repo
[05:02] <shawnz> check the downloads
[05:02] <thebishop> shawnz, with ubuntu debs?
[05:02] <thaixstyle> any ideas?
[05:02] <shawnz> debian debs
[05:02] <shawnz> all the same thing
[05:02] <redcard> thaixstyle: Any specific apps it does this to?
[05:02] <thebishop> will they break my system?
[05:02] <thaixstyle> just about anything...
[05:02] <shawnz> uhh
[05:02] <shawnz> break your system?
[05:02] <thaixstyle> firefox...
[05:02] <shawnz> lol
[05:02] <shawnz> no
[05:02] <thebishop> awesome
[05:02] <thaixstyle> anything...
[05:03] <shawnz> why would they?
[05:03] <shawnz> :p
[05:03] <thaixstyle> if i play with it too much
[05:03] <thebishop> i've heard that debian repos sometimes do
[05:03] <thaixstyle> it freezes
[05:03] <shawnz> debian repos do
[05:03] <shawnz> but this one only has like 2 packages
[05:03] <thaixstyle> (say i do a lot of unessary clicking)
[05:03] <thaixstyle> i can force it to hang
[05:03] <thaixstyle> funny
[05:03] <garrett_> Anyone: Problems adding resolution to my xorg with an ATI card. HELP?
[05:03] <Nimwei> shawnz - Now I get an (EE) No devices detected.
[05:03] <shawnz> thebishop:  they say that because if you add an actual default Debian repos, it will upgrade to Debian packages
[05:03] <thaixstyle> i can recreate the problem
[05:03] <Madpilot> !enterr
[05:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about enterr - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:03] <Madpilot> !enter
[05:03] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:03] <shawnz> :(
[05:04] <Nimwei> christ almighty..lol
[05:04] <redcard> thaixstyle: Hmm.. what kind of mouse?
[05:04] <thaixstyle> redcard: do you think it could be a hardware issue
[05:04] <thaixstyle> wireless usb optical mouse
[05:04] <thaixstyle> logitech
[05:04] <Nimwei> shawnz - What is the package(s) I need to update X11..maybe I'll try that even though I already did an update/upgrade.
[05:04] <redcard> thaixstyle: Hmm.
[05:04] <thaixstyle> redcard: think it could be a driver issue?
[05:05] <shawnz> Nimwei: apt-get upgrade does everything
[05:05] <thaixstyle> maybe a hardware issue...
[05:05] <thaixstyle> because it's not just the mouse
[05:05] <redcard> It could be.  I've got no experience using a wireless mouse.   ;P
[05:05] <thaixstyle> i'm thinking that my HDD is going bad
[05:05] <yey> BlueEagle: dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq vim70
[05:05] <yey> ;P
[05:06] <ardchoille> !xconfig
[05:06] <yey> yeyeyeye ;P
[05:06] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:06] <thaixstyle> but it's funny because when I boot into my Windows partition...i don't have any problems..
[05:06] <redcard> Well, if you have a persistant hardware issue, it can manifest in any number of ways
[05:06] <shawnz> anyway, does anyone know which branches / is a union of on the livecd?
[05:06] <thaixstyle> maybe my linux partition is over a bad sector
[05:06] <redcard> thaixstyle: Did it do this when you tested the hardware using the livecd?
[05:06] <thaixstyle> or RAM...maybe i have bad RAM...
[05:06] <thaixstyle> live CD worked cool...wait
[05:07] <thaixstyle> i got it to do the same thing on the Live CD before too...
[05:07] <thaixstyle> a couple times
[05:07] <redcard> I'd try plugging in a different mouse
[05:07] <thaixstyle> redcard: think it might be my other hardware?
[05:07] <thaixstyle> yeah
[05:07] <thaixstyle> i'll try that first..
[05:07] <thaixstyle> but if it persists...
[05:08] <thaixstyle> maybe RAM...i should do extensive RAM tests...
[05:08] <Yashiro_Nanakase> the live cd has a memtest or is it in the alternative cd?
[05:08] <redcard> If it persists, I don't know what to suggest.
[05:08] <Yashiro_Nanakase> try that
[05:08] <thaixstyle> and my HDD
[05:08] <thaixstyle> yeah...
[05:08] <redcard> memtest86 is on the livecd, I think
[05:08] <Yashiro_Nanakase> or download hiren's boot and do a hdd test
[05:08] <thaixstyle> it does have memtest
[05:08] <thaixstyle> i'll try that...
[05:08] <thaixstyle> i have hiren
[05:08] <ardchoille> !enter > thaixstyle
[05:08] <thaixstyle> i can test my HDD
[05:08] <thaixstyle> !enter
[05:08] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:08] <thaixstyle> ?
[05:08] <Yashiro_Nanakase> i always run an hdd test when they r a bit slow
[05:08] <shawnr_> Ok, the only keyboard shortcut of mine that isn't working is "Run a terminal" can anyone help me out?
[05:09] <ardchoille> thaixstyle: Please try to make complete sentences.
[05:09] <thaixstyle> i'm sorry, did i speak in broken english?
[05:09] <Madpilot> shawnr_, I've got that mapped to my 'menu key' which works fine - what key combo are you trying?
[05:09] <JJ|Laptop> so hw does configuring partitons during installation work?
[05:09] <Yashiro_Nanakase> lol, my native language is spanish
[05:09] <ardchoille> thaixstyle: Using 6 or 7 lines to say one complete sentence is just annoying
[05:09] <shawnr_> Madpilot, ive tried a bunch
[05:10] <thaixstyle> sorry, it's a bad "IMing" habit
[05:10] <shawnr_> Madpilot, Super_L (win key), F1, Shift-F1
[05:10] <shawnr_> nothing wokrs
[05:10] <shawnr_> works*
[05:10] <Nimwei> shawnz - Is it possible my Primary device is setup wrong? it's set to PCI 00:01:0 - i'm not even sure that's right.
[05:10] <Madpilot> shawnr_, odd, the win keys aren't assigned to anything by default, that should have worked
[05:10] <visik7> EriK_: seems reconstructor work smoothly, I've the iso now I'll try it on vmware
[05:11] <visik7> btw
[05:11] <visik7> I think ubuntu should release something like dapper r1
[05:11] <shawnr_> Madpilot, the same keys can be used for other shortcuts like web browser and email
[05:11] <visik7> with updates
[05:11] <shawnr_> Madpilot, just not terminal
[05:11] <visik7> 'couse is not possible to install 150 packages after installation
[05:11] <Coruscant> shawnz where does alien put the DEB?
[05:12] <Madpilot> shawnr_, I know, but by default in Ubuntu Gnome neither Windows key does anythign
[05:12] <ardchoille> visik7: On a new install, run the updates and go have lunch.. that's what I do.
[05:12] <shawnr_> Madpilot, i have my specific keyboard model selected so even my FN keys are wokring
[05:12] <ardchoille> :)
[05:12] <martalli> EriK_ I'm back, and I am still stuck in 800x600.  I noticed in my xorg.conf that Section "Device" shows " BusID                "PCI:3:0:0"" - is this correct, since my card is AGP?
[05:13] <Coruscant> or shawnr_  where does alien put the created DEB?
[05:13] <Madpilot> shawnr_, nice - but I'm not sure why Super_L isn't working as assigned.. odd
[05:13] <thaixstyle> BTW folks, has anyone gotten EasyUbuntu to work recently (i'm talking today or yesturday)?  I can't seem to get it going right at all
[05:13] <shawnr_> Madpilot, but neither does F1, F2, F3 and so on
[05:13] <knowwho> Unable to find growisofs executable
[05:13] <knowwho> K3b uses growisofs to actually write dvds. Without growisofs you won't be able to write dvds. Make sure to install at least version 5.10.
[05:13] <knowwho> any idea?
[05:13] <shawnr_> nothing is working for terminal shortcut
[05:13] <thaixstyle> i use the exact same commands copied from the site but tells me that i can't run it as root
[05:14] <thaixstyle> although the commands specifically say "sudo python easyubuntu.in"
[05:14] <shawnr_> Madpilot, in other words, if I map the web browser shortcut to SUPER_L, it works... but if I map the terminal shortcut... it doesn't
[05:15] <thaixstyle> i already tryied the #easyubuntu channel, but everyone is either away or unconscious
[05:15] <shawnr_> *but if I map the terminal shortcut to super_l... it doesn't
[05:15] <Coruscant> Where does alien by default put the converted deb>
[05:15] <Madpilot> shawnr_, very strange
[05:15] <Coruscant> nm i got it
[05:15] <shawnr_> Madpilot, can I edit shortcuts in gconf?
[05:16] <sally2> has anyone tried to install mednafen?
[05:16] <sally2> if so, did it work?
[05:16] <sally2> and how?
[05:16] <nu> hey guys. earlier, i was vieing SDA1's (windows hard drive)  files, even the administrator ones, when i did gksudo nautilus
[05:16] <nu> but now i cant
[05:16] <nu> anyone know why?
[05:16] <Madpilot> shawnr_, yes,
[05:16] <xrothgarx> does kubuntu have install disks for PPC's?  (macs)
[05:17] <shawnr_> Madpilot, i've been looking for it but can't find it
[05:18] <threadmac> Any idea why my rt2500 worked fine after the initial install, but after some fiddling has stopped working? Someone suggested my kernel upgrade might have caused it... but it still doesn't work having booted off the old kernel. I can see the wireless networks in the area, but I can't join them . . .
[05:18] <Madpilot> shawnr_, start it from terminal w/ gconf-editor, or edit your menus to make it visible - Config Editor is hidden by default in dapper's menus
[05:18] <shawnr_> Madpilot, no i know where that it. i mean the keyboard shortcuts in gconf
[05:19] <babo> how do I add 'user' to the 'mail' group again ?
[05:19] <Madpilot> shawnr_, no idea, I tend to avoid gconf... sorry
[05:20] <bimberi> babo: sudo adduser username mail
[05:20] <ardchoille> shawnr_: try apps/metacity in gconf
[05:20] <babo> bimberi: aha ...
[05:20] <babo> thaks
[05:20] <babo> n
[05:21] <shawnr_> ardchoille, wouldn't work for me
[05:21] <bimberi> babo: np :)
[05:21] <ardchoille> shawnr_: Sorry, meant gconf-editor
[05:21] <shawnr_> ardchoille, yea.. but that wouldn't work for me
[05:22] <ardchoille> shawnr_: Ahh, ok
[05:22] <JJ|Laptop> does anyone know what kernel ubunto v5.04 uses?
[05:22] <visik7> ardchoille: too many updates many friends of mine want to use ubuntu but here many are on 56k or dsl not flat
[05:22] <shawnr_> ardchoille, im running compiz/xgl... so im not using metacity
[05:22] <visik7> ardchoille: so they can't update
[05:22] <Coruscant> ok where does the executible go when you install the DEB?
[05:22] <ardchoille> shawnr_: Ahh
[05:23] <ardchoille> visik7: dial-up? eeewwwww
[05:23] <ardchoille> lol
[05:23] <visik7> yes dial up
[05:23] <ardchoille> I guess dsl has spoiled me
[05:23] <visik7> many users still live on dial up
[05:23] <visik7> expecially here in italy
[05:23] <visik7> where we have a telco monopoly
[05:23] <QMario> How do I use OpenOffice's Export to PDF in the command line?
[05:23] <yey> how can I hibernate in Ubuntu from command line?
[05:23] <chaizzilla> what's that about 56k or dsl not flat?
[05:23] <corey> garrett_, I got mine working!
[05:24] <garrett_> corey, SCHWAAA?
[05:24] <Samineru> opera is not opening http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20165
[05:24] <corey> garrett_, I used gtf to generate a custom modeline and added it to my xorg.conf
[05:24] <visik7> chaizzilla: 150 updates are too many with this kind of connection
[05:24] <Coruscant> ok where does the executible go when you install the DEB?
[05:24] <chaizzilla> wasn't there a fairly active #thinkwiki channel on this server at some point?
[05:24] <QMario> How do I use OpenOffice's Export to PDF in the command line?
[05:24] <visik7> chaizzilla: ubuntu should release an r1 with all updates
[05:24] <corey> garrett_, you should have gtf alread installed. Man pages helped
[05:24] <chaizzilla> what's the flat mean?
[05:25] <visik7> chaizzilla: that you don't pay per time
[05:25] <chaizzilla> i think i just didn't parse it
[05:25] <chaizzilla> ah okie
[05:25] <chaizzilla> 150 updates over what period?
[05:25] <garrett_> corey, I fiddled with modelines earlier, didn't attempt anything because I couldn't figure out my refresh rates or anything for my lappy. I'll dig more into that though, thanks bunches!
[05:25] <fl4kk3r> visik7: then it wouldn't fit on a cd
[05:25] <visik7> chaizzilla: from 1 june ?
[05:25] <chaizzilla> can they be spread out?  oh, hmm...
[05:25] <dr_willis> garrett_,  a lcd is normally always 60mhz for the rate
[05:25] <visik7> updates aren't new installed packages
[05:25] <Samineru> additionally I was trying to open synaptics and I got this error: ailed to run synaptic as user root:
[05:25] <Samineru>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[05:25] <chaizzilla> so sort of the opposite problem from lack of updates
[05:26] <visik7> fl4kk3r: so it should fit 'couse they are the same packages
[05:26] <chaizzilla> maybe there should be a voting system
[05:26] <Yashiro_Nanakase> cl repositories r down D:!
[05:26] <corey> garrett_, Yeah just go for 60hrz thats the default that about everything supports
[05:26] <Yashiro_Nanakase> do sum1 has a sources.list u can spare :D?
[05:26] <threadmac> What are the possibilities when I can see my wireless networks with iwlist scan.... but I can't join the network... dhcp just waits forever
[05:26] <garrett_> dr_willis, corey, Thanks. Noted.
[05:26] <visik7> chaizzilla: who complain for lack of updates?
[05:26] <fl4kk3r> visik7: when i updated for the first time it was a 200mb thing, and the live cd is 600mb
[05:26] <Coruscant> HELP!| ok where does the executible go when you install the DEB?
[05:26] <chaizzilla> like, an optimal limit should be figured out, and updates have to compete their way therein
[05:26] <threadmac> Coruscant: probably /usr/bin
[05:26] <visik7> fl4kk3r: I repeat they are updates
[05:26] <visik7> not new packages
[05:27] <chaizzilla> teams could try and figure out how to condense 2 or more updates
[05:27] <tritium> Coruscant: dpkg -L <packagename> will list all the files in that package, so you can verify
[05:27] <visik7> btw I'm slipstreaming updates on a new cd
[05:27] <Coruscant> thanks
[05:27] <tamale> hello everyone, I'm having a very frustrating problem with my ubuntu install on my webserver.  PHP pages always make my browser show a "The connection was reset"  error the first time I try to access them.  When I do a refresh, it works fine.   Everytime.   There is nothing in the apache error log corresponding to the times I'm seeing this.. any ideas?
[05:27] <chaizzilla> i thought ubuntu was the answer to some er org latebct
[05:27] <chaizzilla> er org latency... acherlly i dunno
[05:27] <beerfan> Does anyone know how to make nautilus not move deleted files to .Trash on removable devices like usb?
[05:28] <Yashiro_Nanakase> use shift+ supr to delete permanently a file
[05:29] <dr_willis> beerfan,  thats a bit of a known bugglet - and dang annoyng. :P
[05:29] <cerda> wich is the best program similar to guitar pro ???
[05:29] <chaizzilla> oh man i want that answer too :)
[05:29] <visik7> anyone know how the ubuntu installer (from livecd) works ?
[05:29] <visik7> I need some docs
[05:30] <xrothgarx> can someone please help me downgrade mysql from 5 -> 4, mythtv .18.1 doesnt work with 5
[05:30] <beerfan> dr_willis, so no way? any work around like holding shift or something?
[05:30] <xrothgarx> I am using kubuntu 6.06
[05:30] <dr_willis> beerfan,  thers that method.. but its an annoyance
[05:30] <chaizzilla> is there an alternative to guitar pro?  surely someone's come up with some sort of xslt xfo xxx whatever thingie
[05:30] <ardchoille> xrothgarx: I'm glad you said that, I'll be needing mythtv soon for a new PVR I'm building
[05:31] <beerfan> dr_willis, I hadn't tried that yet. I was hoping there was a config somewhere :-/ thanks
[05:31] <cerda> chaizzilla have u ever tried kguitar or tuxguitar??
[05:31] <jn> hi
[05:31] <xrothgarx> ubuntu 6.06 installs mysql5 by default but you can't run some myth .18 commands (mythfilldatabase) suppsoidly it is fixed in .19
[05:31] <cerda> do they write tabs for all instr? or just guitar?
[05:31] <jn> Error: The GUI requires GTK devel packages (which were not found).
[05:32] <jn> does anyone know what the package name for the gtk devel is
[05:32] <chaizzilla> no i have not, have only recently come to realise how frustruating it is to look for tabs :)
[05:32] <f00f-> i'm compiling my own kernel on 6.06, but find that some hw features dont work anymore (touchpad scrolling, visual alert when pressing volume keys, sleep). i'm wondering what i need to enable to get my thinkpad t43p working again like the original kernel. i'm using beyond2.2 patches...
[05:33] <chaizzilla> thanks for those suggestions :)
[05:34] <mike-e> so, ubuntu doesn't support ISA?
[05:35] <crimsun> mike-e: it does, why?
[05:35] <ardchoille> cerda: Tried this: http://www.gnomefiles.org/search.php?search=guitar  ?
[05:35] <mike-e> crimsun : troll? ok, ignore
[05:35] <rav> jest tu ktos z polski ?
[05:35] <chaizzilla> does anyone remember the little single-tone melody utility in OS/2?  i keep hoping to find someone ported it or at least copied the navigation from it
[05:36] <ardchoille> !pl
[05:36] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:36] <chaizzilla> and i want a pony, and a port of foxpro for dos..
[05:37] <chaizzilla> o and a really awesome IM-IRC-etc console-based client
[05:37] <chaizzilla> that works
[05:37] <dr_willis> chaizzilla,  ya mean somnthign that just does a beep at a specific freq/duration?
[05:37] <owen_> is there a program, or plugin for gnomebaker, that edits idv3 and idv2 mp3 tags and song information?
[05:38] <CalcMaster86>  hey, i'm having problems detecting my network card which is a d-link 550tx... there are drivers for linux, but i just cant figure out how to get them to install
[05:38] <ardchoille> owen_: I know that easytag does a great job of that, just a thought
[05:38] <Madpilot> owen_, try EasyTag or Cowbell for tag editing
[05:38] <chaizzilla> no, OS/2 had a little melody composer for writing your own alarm tones, and i've never seen anything with nearly as sensible an interface
[05:38] <owen_> thanks
[05:38] <dr_willis> CalcMaster86,  may just need to load the right modules with modprobe
[05:39] <chaizzilla> calcmaster86?
[05:39] <CalcMaster86>  yeah, i saw that on the forums, i know the card uses the sundance driver, do i just type in sudo sundance ?
[05:39] <CalcMaster86>  err
[05:39] <chaizzilla> i'll look it up thanks
[05:39] <chaizzilla> oh derr
[05:39] <CalcMaster86>  sudo modprobe sundance
[05:39] <jdmpike> hey guys
[05:39] <chaizzilla> thought that was software
[05:39] <jdmpike> does anyone in here use EasyTag?
[05:40] <crimsun> I've used EasyTag in the past, yes
[05:40] <jdmpike> I can't figure out for the life of me how to edit multiple files at once
[05:40] <f00f-> i'm trying to compile my own kernel... can anyone help me?
[05:40] <chaizzilla> why are you doing that?
[05:40] <crimsun> jdmpike: select them in the middle pane
[05:40] <ardchoille> jdmpike: CTRL+click ?
[05:40] <jdmpike> yeah, that selects many of them
[05:41] <jdmpike> but then when I alter information on the right pane, it only alters for the first file I selected
[05:41] <f00f-> chaizzilla: i'm looking for more performance
[05:41] <chaizzilla> and a pony
[05:41] <ardchoille> jdmpike: there  is a tiny button next to each text box, if you hover over that button, you'll see what it does.
[05:41] <chaizzilla> oh
[05:41] <jdmpike> f00f- did you download a kernel for your architecture?
[05:42] <jdmpike> ardchoille, those just select all files with that tag
[05:42] <Andruk> my kubuntu system isnt producing any sound, even with multimedia programs, where (website) can i start to research and resolve this problem?
[05:42] <ardchoille> jdmpike: No, that writes the same tag to ALL selected files.
[05:43] <f00f-> jdmpike: i downloaded 2.6.17 stock, applied beyond2.2 patches, and fiddled around with config. i guess my first issue is getting suspend working. i've enabled both suspend and suspend2, i guess ubuntu by default uses the old suspend (doesnt require apm/acpi) ?
[05:43] <f00f-> i'm using make-kpg to create the debs and the initrd
[05:43] <jdmpike> hmmm, you are over my head
[05:43] <jdmpike> the gentoo documentation is pretty good
[05:44] <jdmpike> I had a gentoo install but came to ubuntu because the people are cooler
[05:44] <f00f-> i moved from gentoo to ubuntu :P
[05:44] <ardchoille> jdmpike: If you identify to nkciserv, I'll help you with it in pm
[05:44] <Andruk> i moved from debian to kubuntu
[05:44] <dr_willis> Heh - ExGentooers
[05:44] <jdmpike> and I can do more with my machine faster
[05:44] <f00f-> i came to ubuntu because gentoo has severe flaws leading to decreased productivity for me :P
[05:44] <jdmpike> ardchoille, I don't remember my password
[05:44] <Andruk> anybody know how to get sound working on kubuntu?
[05:44] <ardchoille> jdmpike: heh.. "oops"
[05:44] <f00f-> Andruk: can you get *any* sound?
[05:45] <welshbyte> f00f-: if you must... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:45] <chaizzilla> what was gentoo itself like?
[05:45] <ardchoille> Folks, #gentoo is that way --->
[05:45] <Andruk> f00f: no, none at all
[05:45] <tamale> I'm having a very frustrating problem with my ubuntu install on my webserver.  PHP pages always make my browser show a "The connection was reset"  error the first time I try to access them.  When I do a refresh, it works fine.   Everytime.   There is nothing in the apache error log corresponding to the times I'm seeing this.. any ideas?
[05:45] <jdmpike> ardchoille, that did it - thanks
[05:45] <Andruk> and my speakers are on, all cables connected, etc
[05:45] <chaizzilla> but over there we'd be talking about why leave gentoo for ubuntu
[05:45] <EriK_> andruk: perhaps try playing something with aplay for starters
[05:45] <ardchoille> jdmpike: Cool :)
[05:46] <visik7> sun rise here
[05:46] <visik7> :)
[05:46] <ardchoille> :)
[05:46] <EriK_> there is plenty to choose from in /usr/share/sounds
[05:46] <f00f-> welshbyte: thx, have read it, altho that page is very biased and discouraing, and is not the correct way imho to compile a kernel (vs make-kpkg)..
[05:46] <chaizzilla> are you in stpetersburg or something visik7?
[05:47] <visik7> Italy
[05:47] <chaizzilla> oh :)
[05:47] <Andruk> uh, aplay just gave me a whole bunch of errors, and i hadnt even picked a song
[05:47] <chaizzilla> oof
[05:47] <Andruk> kaffeine says that all audio drivers failed to initialize
[05:47] <EriK_> Andruk:  what does amixer have to say?  anything?
[05:47] <f00f-> chaizzilla: gentoo was nice. big repository. but repo sync times were extreme (ie. apt-get update), and compiling took long times, but i was looking for a desktop that i didnt need to mess with.
[05:47] <visik7> I think that in stpeterspurg sun is rised
[05:48] <chaizzilla> yea..
[05:48] <Andruk> mixer attach default error: no such device
[05:48] <welshbyte> f00f-: and now you've found one, you're messing with it? ;)
[05:48] <chaizzilla> gotcha f00f
[05:48] <Maje> I'm having troubles with getting my computer to recognize my ATI drivers instead of OpenMesa :(
[05:48] <EriK_> andruk: what sort of sound hardware?
[05:49] <mournahan> any one with any luck with wolfinstine enemy territory?
[05:49] <f00f-> welshbyte: well, all i want is a slightly more tuned kernel. if ubuntu repository had a performance-minded kernel optimized for pentium-m CPU, i'd apt-get it in a heartbeat :)
[05:50] <Andruk> uh, i dont know, a cheap, old thing i got awhile back
[05:50] <mournahan> I get sound but no video
[05:50] <Andruk> how would i go about finding out?
[05:50] <Coruscant> how do i use alien to convert a rpm.bin to deb now jeez
[05:50] <jdmpike> ardchoille, is there a way for Easy tag to get artist/album information from directory structure?
[05:50] <EriK_> andruk: do 'lspci' from a shell and see if it tells you anything interesting
[05:50] <jdmpike> it is hilaroius how important meta-data becomes when you get a cool new MP3 player
[05:51] <ardchoille> jdmpike: I've never done that, so I am not sure
[05:51] <ardchoille> jdmpike: lol
[05:51] <Andruk> 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02)
[05:51] <Andruk>         Subsystem: Ensoniq Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI128
[05:51] <chaizzilla> has anyone used spong?  i'm also looking for something to get over tivoli with
[05:52] <EriK_> hmmmmmmmmmmm, Andruk, maybe try 'lsmod | grep snd' to see if it's trying to load any audio modules at all
[05:52] <ardchoille> Coruscant: Are you sure that app isn't in the Ubuntu repos? It's best to check the repos as converting from rpm is a sort of last resort
[05:52] <Coruscant> um its the jre stuff
[05:52] <Coruscant> it may be i didnt look
[05:52] <Maje> I'm having troubles with getting my computer to recognize my ATI drivers instead of OpenMesa, nothing on the forums has worked
[05:52] <ardchoille> Coruscant: There is a bunch of jre stuff in the repos
[05:53] <Coruscant> i need the newest runtime enviroment for limewire
[05:53] <ardchoille> !jre
[05:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about jre - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:53] <ReWT_AxS> how do i do a checksum in ubuntu?
[05:53] <ardchoille> !java
[05:53] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:53] <meathead> can someone help me install pre-radeon 9550 drivers on a fresh ubuntu install
[05:53] <ardchoille> ReWT_AxS: md5sum ?
[05:53] <Coruscant> oh cool it is
[05:54] <EriK_> rewt: /usr/bin/md5sum
[05:54] <ReWT_AxS> yes
[05:54] <meathead> the ati drivers lack support and install the library fiel taht everyone says fixes it doesn't
[05:54] <EriK_> MD5SUM(1)
[05:54] <Maje> meathead: i can't get 9800 proprietary drivers working myself
[05:54] <ReWT_AxS> no how do i check an iso i just downloaded
[05:54] <Maje> meathead: but there's some how-tos that work with some older open source ones on the forums
[05:54] <ardchoille> md5sum file.iso
[05:54] <ardchoille> compare that to the one on the server
[05:55] <meathead> the 9800 drivers work with fglrx
[05:55] <Maje> Well, not for me.
[05:55] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[05:56] <CalcMaster86>  chaizzilla: were you able to find anything on the sundance driver?
[05:56] <dr_willis> ReWT_AxS,  md5sum file.iso
[05:56] <ReWT_AxS> k
[05:56] <Andruk> pastebin is being really slow
[05:56] <ReWT_AxS> thanks
[05:56] <Andruk> drew@kubuntu:~$ lsmod | grep snd
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_seq_dummy           3844  0
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_seq_oss            29440  0
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_seq_midi            8608  0
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_rawmidi            22816  1 snd_seq_midi
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_seq_midi_event      6656  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
[05:56] <poningru> woah dude
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_seq                44688  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
[05:56] <ardchoille> !paste
[05:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_seq_device          8204  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_pcm_oss            46368  0
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_pcm                78344  1 snd_pcm_oss
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_timer              21764  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_page_alloc         10120  1 snd_pcm
[05:57] <Andruk> snd_mixer_oss          16128  1 snd_pcm_oss
[05:57] <ardchoille> !paste > Andruk
[05:57] <Andruk> snd                    48644  8 snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
[05:57] <Andruk> soundcore               9184  1 snd
[05:57] <Andruk> drew@kubuntu:~$
[05:57] <lecaros> Andruk read the channel topic!!!
[05:57] <Maje> That spam was fun!
[05:57] <Andruk> yeah, well, pastebin wasnt working
[05:57] <|thunder> !pastebin
[05:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:57] <Maje> Where's John Cleese when you need him?
[05:57] <ardchoille> Maje: lol
[05:57] <owen_> how do you make a link to a folder on your desktop in the terminal?
[05:58] <lecaros> Andruk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, or pastebin.com
[05:58] <|thunder> ln -s
[05:58] <Andruk> as i said before, pastebin.com is not working for me
[05:58] <Madpilot> Andruk, do that again and you'll be removed - use a pastebin, there are lots if one is down!
[05:58] <Andruk> um, okay, thanks
[05:58] <|thunder> ln -s /target /home/user/Desktop
[05:58] <Madpilot> Andruk, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:58] <|thunder> or ctrl-shift drag a folder from naut
[05:58] <ardchoille> Andruk: Read the topic, that pastebin is usually good
[05:59] <naut> |thunder, pardon?
[05:59] <Samineru> anyone feel like helping me with a possibly long questoin
[05:59] <|thunder> lol. was shorthand for nautilus
[06:00] <nalioth> Samineru: we can only answer if we see the question first
[06:00] <naut> oh i see
[06:00] <Andruk> there we go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20166
[06:00] <Samineru> nalioth sorry was just wondering if anyone was free because oftne i come in and noone responds
[06:00] <Andruk> sry guys...
[06:00] <naut> Samineru, ask and you shall be flamed
[06:00] <naut> most likely
[06:00] <naut> bu ask anyway
[06:00] <|thunder> Samineru, that means we dont know
[06:01] <Samineru> nalioth but anyways I was wondering if it is possible to reformat my latop from say the ubuntu iso on my external\
[06:01] <|thunder> harisund, pee-wee
[06:01] <|thunder> harisund, pee-wee's playhousw is on tv
[06:01] <naut> You want to run ubuntu from a CD and play with your hard drive, Samineru?
[06:01] <|thunder> damn auto complete
[06:01] <Samineru> yes, but my cd drive is broken
[06:01] <|thunder> was just : ha, pee-wee's playhouse is on.   dang
[06:01] <wirelain> |thunder: Yeah ... it's slightly distressing.
[06:02] <naut> Samineru, where else do you hve that iso
[06:02] <naut> do you have it on your hard drive
[06:02] <wirelain> naut: If you have to downlaod i recommend torrenting it ...
[06:02] <Samineru> well I dont actually have it yet but i could download it
[06:03] <inc|freaky> hi all. does anyone know how to add GIF support to rrdtool?
[06:03] <Samineru> I also have the physical cds
[06:03] <naut> Oh right,
[06:03] <naut> you want to boot from an external CD drive?
[06:03] <Blinker> ubuntu supports hyper-threading chipsets, right?
[06:04] <Samineru> naut the only exteranall cd drive I thought I had has a port nonexistant on my computer
[06:04] <wirelain> Does your motherboard support boot USB/firewire?
[06:04] <nalioth> Samineru: yes you can do that
[06:04] <Samineru> nalioth and how would i do that
[06:04] <nalioth> Samineru: are you gonna use the whole drive for Ubuntu ?
[06:04] <mournahan> any info on intel video cards
[06:05] <Samineru> nalioth for now
[06:05] <nalioth> Samineru: during the install process, it'll ask you if you want to use the whole drive
[06:05] <Samineru> nalioth and I will say yes, I am using  ubuntu right now
[06:05] <Samineru> nalioth, and i have gone through the install process before
[06:06] <nalioth> Samineru: sounds good
[06:06] <miles> Hey all
[06:06] <miles> Okay, I have done the worst thing in the world, and I need someone's help.
[06:06] <naut> Samineru, http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Linux_bootable_USB_key_HOWTO
[06:06] <Blinker> miles:  ctrl-z? =p
[06:06] <miles> I installed ubuntu and wasn't paying attention to the partition mapping, and installed it over the top of my windows drive.
[06:06] <Blinker> as
[06:06] <wirelain> miles: rm -rf ?
[06:06] <Blinker> ask*
[06:07] <miles> I have all my work on there!
[06:07] <Samineru> naut/nalioth for some reason the computer says I have no disk space left though I am sure I do
[06:07] <miles> I have two drives, but part of the partitions are on the windows drive /dev/hda
[06:07] <naut> Samineru, type du -sh
[06:07] <wirelain> you deleted a needed partition?
[06:08] <miles> yeah.
[06:08] <naut> it's probably one of your partitions that is full
[06:08] <miles> I know, let the bashing begin.
[06:08] <wirelain> search for drive recovers software, pay the bounty.
[06:08] <wirelain> 'drive recovery'
[06:08] <miles> that's the only way?
[06:08] <wirelain> that is by far the easiest.
[06:08] <Blinker> pretty much
[06:08] <miles> dang it.
[06:08] <miles> Okay.
[06:08] <miles> Well I guess that solves that issue.
[06:08] <miles> One other thing, maybe you all can help with this too.
[06:09] <wirelain> the other ways involve using the free part of many differnt programs ... take an image fiorst is you are going to do that though.
[06:09] <poningru> Samineru: just ask dude
[06:09] <Samineru> nalioth/naut should i put the iso on my external or the hd
[06:09] <miles> I followed the instructions on the forums on how to get sound working, but alas, it continues to evade me.
[06:09] <Samineru> poningru dude?
[06:10] <nalioth> Samineru: the iso should be burnt to a cd-r at 4x or less AND after you've verified the integrity of the image
[06:10] <Samineru> naut, i got an error opening that webpage
[06:10] <Blinker> miles:  desktop or laptop?
[06:10] <miles> desktop
[06:10] <Blinker> onboard?
[06:10] <OPTiCO> hi! just discovered something "not-so-positive" in my dmesg. Seems to me that my i810 can't find mem. to use. "Unable to reserve mem region #3:10000000@c0000000 for device 0000:00:02.0"
[06:11] <Samineru> nalioth, my cd drive is not working, the root of the problem
[06:11] <miles> yes
[06:11] <Coir> How can I see what my DNS servers are using ifconfig?
[06:11] <miles> it's a via8237
[06:11] <dr_willis> OPTiCO,  could be its trying and if that fails trys some where else.
[06:11] <dr_willis> OPTiCO,  is it working?
[06:11] <visik7> anyone know a site where I can upload about 1gb of files ?
[06:11] <nalioth> Samineru: ah, i see
[06:11] <visik7> to share ?
[06:11] <naut> Samineru, just google for boot flash drive linux
[06:11] <nalioth> Samineru: do you have a friend with an external? and does your lappy boot from external drives?
[06:12] <Samineru> nalioth I have an external, that is where the iso is being downloaded right now
[06:12] <OPTiCO> dr_willis: Nah... got 8mb of gfx-mem.
[06:12] <Blinker> miles: join #blinker and i'll try to help ya out with that one
[06:12] <naut> Samineru, is that an external hard drive
[06:12] <nalioth> Samineru: an external hard drive or optical drive?
[06:12] <dr_willis> OPTiCO,  ick
[06:12] <wirelain> Coir: you can check your router (if you are on broadband)
[06:12] <OPTiCO> dr_willis: set to 64mb in both xorg.conf and bios
[06:13] <Samineru> nalitoh/naut I do not know the difference but i am geussing  external
[06:13] <Samineru> hard drive
[06:13] <Samineru> oh you mean cd drive or hard drive? hard drive
[06:13] <miles> k
[06:13] <naut> Samineru, what type of connection
[06:13] <naut> does your drive have
[06:13] <Samineru> naut usb 2.0
[06:14] <naut> possibly you can install ubuntu on your external drive and boot from there
[06:14] <nalioth> Samineru: you'll need an external cdrom/dvd drive, i suspect
[06:15] <nalioth> Samineru: or what naut said
[06:15] <naut> Samineru, if it's USB, you might be able to adapt the flash drive instructions
[06:16] <Ikki> hola
[06:16] <MarkusV> Coir, with ifconfig, I dont know. But, GUI has 'Network Settings' (my own translation) where DNS is listed.
[06:17] <Samineru> WOAH I just got this error opening synaptics: Failed to run synaptic as user root: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[06:22] <ardchoille> Samineru: ls -la ~/.Xauthority  Who owns that file?
[06:22] <Samineru> me
[06:23] <Samineru> ardchoille "-rw-------  1 rob rob 116 2006-08-09 23:38 /home/rob/.Xauthority"
[06:23] <ardchoille> Samineru: ok
[06:24] <poningru> ardchoille/ Samineru its probably because his drive is full
[06:24] <Samineru> poningru though it is not, even though the computer said it is
[06:25] <Samineru> poningru, I deleted some files and and it still said 0b free
[06:25] <traviss_> why cant i install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly? it says it wont let me
[06:26] <wirelain> traviss_: they are too ugly?
[06:26] <ardchoille> traviss_: Did you use sudo?
[06:26] <traviss_> hah yeah
[06:27] <traviss_> man, all i want to do is play mp3s, mpegs, etc
[06:28] <wirelain> !restricted
[06:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:28] <SeeDe> i transferred 3 pdfs using the GUI and now nautilus is using ~90 CPU and the desktop has frozen
[06:28] <traviss_> Yeah I looked at that
[06:28] <Lilandra> hi
[06:28] <traviss_> it told me to install the gstreamer ugly, and it wont let me
[06:29] <robson> ola
[06:29] <Samineru> whatever Ill just get my cd drive fixed
[06:29] <traviss_> 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly' is not available in any software channel
[06:29] <SeeDe> nautilus is also using 50% RAM. anyone know why its doing this?
[06:29] <Lilandra> anybody minds me asking for help?
[06:29] <robson> alguel pode me ajudar??
[06:29] <Lilandra> ive tried googling...
[06:30] <nalioth> !tell traviss_ about repos
[06:30] <ardchoille> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[06:30] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly: GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 176 kB, installed size 484 kB
[06:30] <robson> alguem fala brasileiro??
[06:30] <nalioth> traviss_: enable universe and multiverse repos .  read your private msg for instructions
[06:30] <nalioth> !br
[06:30] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:30] <ardchoille> traviss_: It's in universe
[06:31] <visik7> 3 hours of work to get nothing
[06:32] <visik7> and here are 6:30 am
[06:32] <Nelo> Hello, the wireless connection in my laptop is no longer working. I had set up bcm43xx-fwcutter initially it was working fine until a couple days ago. The card bind to eth1 and now when booting up it no longer binds to eth1.  The error message is no such device.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[06:32] <traviss_> thanks
[06:32] <Lilandra> my trash applet won't start in gnome and keeps asking me if i want to delete it :(
[06:32] <visik7> I'm quite tired
[06:32] <miles> delete the trash?
[06:32] <miles> What?
[06:32] <miles> lol
[06:32] <Lilandra> no no
[06:32] <Lilandra> i login to gnome right
[06:33] <visik7> maybe one coffe is not enough
[06:34] <wirelain> visik7: I recommend 3am mud.
[06:34] <visik7> uh ?mud ?
[06:34] <Lilandra> and i get :The panel encountered a problem while loading OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet" Do you want to delete this applet from configuration
[06:34] <wirelain> that's 8o'clock with 3 extra scoops inna pot.
[06:35] <Lilandra> i've seen other people with this problem...they said hostname problem (but I htink it's ok...not too positive) or delete .gconf, .gconfd, .gnome, .gnome2 but this didn't help
[06:35] <TBNolan> would anyone be willing to help me set up my ubuntu box to be able to remotely reboot via VNC ?
[06:35] <sdferfx> Where can I get a w32codecs package?
[06:35] <visik7> !restricted > sdferfx
[06:35] <ardchoille> !RestrictedFormats
[06:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:35] <visik7> or check seveas
[06:36] <yossman> miles?  nick is familiar heh
[06:37] <Lilandra> is ubotu the bot?
[06:37] <wirelain> u bot u
[06:37] <yossman> yea
[06:38] <rowanjl> anyone here know how to get sound working in UT2004? I've installed the openal packages, but its still silent
[06:38] <ardchoille> Lilandra: ubotu is one of the bots
[06:39] <visik7> rowanjl: opengl is for 3d not for audio
[06:39] <EdLin> !what are you?
[06:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about what are you? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:39] <visik7> ut2004 probably use oss
[06:39] <rowanjl> visik7: openal...
[06:39] <visik7> oh sorry
[06:39] <rowanjl> :P
[06:39] <visik7> I've not sleeped :)
[06:39] <rowanjl> Heh. The only option is OpenAL :(
[06:41] <visik7> rowanjl: should relay on alsa or esd
[06:42] <rowanjl> visik7: relay on?
[06:42] <meathead> how do I check a link in ubuntu to make sure it points to what I want it to point to?
[06:42] <visik7> yes it depends to work
[06:42] <|thunder> go to the dir and ls -la
[06:43] <visik7> if  u are using esd check if it works correctly
[06:43] <meathead> thx
[06:43] <ardchoille> meathead: click the link?
[06:43] <abhinay> wot are the backports repositories ?
[06:43] <rowanjl> viktor: I've had no troubles with ESD
[06:43] <ardchoille> !backports
[06:43] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[06:44] <visik7> abhinay: same as ubuntu add  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ubuntu-backports main restricted ...
[06:44] <azureal> sigh...you're trouble shooting ut2k4...i'm not even able to get reg ut goty to work on this internal graphics card...
[06:44] <visik7> time to sleep
[06:44] <visik7> bye guys
[06:44] <ardchoille> g'nite visik7
[06:45] <rowanjl> goodnight then
[06:45] <sloucher> I need sound for an open office presentation. Do I have to convert .mp3's to wav? I there a good program to do that?
[06:46] <jbroome> check out audacity
[06:46] <rowanjl> so, does anyone have an idea of what I'm supposed to do to get sound working? :P
[06:46] <sloucher> thank you jbroome
[06:46] <abhinay> wich repository provides all gnome softwares ?
[06:47] <TBNolan> cups is required for printing in ubuntu?
[06:48] <jrattner1> ?
[06:48] <sloucher> rowanjl: usually when there's no sound there's a problem with the volume control
[06:48] <rowanjl> er
[06:48] <rowanjl> no sound in UT2004...
[06:48] <sloucher> oh, sorry
[06:48] <rowanjl> :P
[06:50] <sloucher> jbroome: audacity rocks, I'm done, that was easy
[06:51] <jbroome> sloucher: Nice!
[06:51] <cef> rowanjl: sounds like it's using OSS sound, which isn't enabled by default afaik
[06:51] <rowanjl> cef: openal uses oss?
[06:53] <TBNolan> whats the default root password- when i installed i don't remember it asking me: i'm trying to su root
[06:53] <ardchoille> !root > TBNolan
[06:53] <TBNolan> heh
[06:53] <TBNolan> tru
[06:54] <TBNolan> oh, it wasn't a joke
[06:54] <cef> rowanjl: I think so
[06:54] <ardchoille> no, check your pm ;)
[06:54] <rowanjl> cef: well, if I installed alsa-oss, what else do you think I'd need? :/
[06:55] <TBNolan> ardchoille: any way to unlock root?
[06:55] <wirelain> TBNolan: brute force?
[06:55] <|thunder> sudo passwd
[06:55] <ardchoille> TBNolan: It's not supported config and it can cause problems.
[06:55] <LaserJock> TBNolan: you don't need root, that's the point of sudo
[06:56] <TBNolan> i can do anything root can do while using sudo?
[06:56] <ardchoille> yes
[06:56] <LaserJock> yep
[06:56] <AfterDeath> yep
[06:56] <TBNolan> still kinda seems like its hiding something from me :-p
[06:56] <ardchoille> TBNolan: use sudo fpr command line apps and use gksudo for gui apps
[06:56] <TBNolan> okie
[06:57] <LaserJock> TBNolan: yes, it is hiding you from doing something bad like running root 24x7
[06:57] <TBNolan> heh
[06:57] <cef> rowanjl: does 'lsmod |grep _oss' return anything?
[06:57] <cef> rowanjl: don't paste it, just tell me if it returns a few lines
[06:57] <Eclypse> hey all
[06:57] <rowanjl> yea, it returns about 14 lines
[06:57] <Eclypse> can someone walk me through getting the ATI Drivers working correctly?
[06:57] <cef> rowanjl: hrm.. then it should be working.. hrmmmmm
[06:57] <Spit> ho huys!
[06:58] <Eclypse> I plan to get XGL set up
[06:58] <Eclypse> and
[06:58] <Spit> im new to ubunut :)
[06:58] <Eclypse> I want to make sure I'm doing everything right the first time
[06:58] <cef> rowanjl: or at least oss should be working
[06:58] <rowanjl> mm
[06:58] <ardchoille> !ati > Eclypse
[06:58] <TBNolan> !vnc > TBNolan
[06:58] <Spit> how do i open a file ? when i open it i cant use it... like linux for aim
[06:58] <Eclypse> ardchoilly, spare me.
[06:58] <TBNolan> !freenx > TBNolan
[06:58] <rtgr> Hi, dumb question - how do i get my "Users List" attached back to the channel window in x-chat-gnome ? :) Now i have to type in CTRL-U to see the current users, it's annoying
[06:58] <rowanjl> !goatse > ATI
[06:58] <rowanjl> goatse > ATI
[06:58] <Eclypse> I don't need any of the basic crap
[06:59] <rowanjl> Gives me an error using ! ;)
[06:59] <ardchoille> Eclypse: Just trying to help, cool your attitude.
[06:59] <Eclypse> ardchoille, I am cool, attitudes are often misinterpreted online.
[06:59] <Eclypse> no tone of voice :(
[06:59] <Eclypse> lol
[06:59] <AlienX> Eclypse, ardchoille is very knowledgeable. I'd take his advise ;)
[07:00] <wirelain> Eclypse: take care with your tone of text?
[07:00] <Eclypse> Alienx what advice?
[07:00] <wirelain> heheh
[07:00] <AlienX> Eclypse, any of it :)
[07:00] <Eclypse> AlienX, no such advice that was useful to me, as of yet.
[07:00] <kjm> is there an smp-nvidia kernel that can be installed using dpkg?
[07:00] <Eclypse> we'll see.
[07:00] <Spit> HELP ME
[07:00] <jordanau> okay i have a crazy idea and i need someone who is good with java to help me
[07:00] <Spit> HOW DO I OPE NFILES?
[07:00] <AlienX> Spit, do NOT type in caps
[07:00] <Spit> how do i open files :)
[07:01] <Eclypse> lol
[07:01] <yossman> too broad a question spit
[07:01] <Eclypse> double click?
[07:01] <TBNolan> caps lock is cruise control for coolness
[07:01] <yossman> what kind of file
[07:01] <Eclypse> lol
[07:01] <AlienX> Spit, be more specific. What types of files?
[07:01] <kjm> Spit, what type of files?  Double click is usually a good guess.
[07:01] <Spit> well when i download linux progz... iopen it but i get nopthing...
[07:01] <jordanau> groupwise client comes with its own jre that doesn't work when run
[07:01] <Eclypse> anyways
[07:01] <wirelain> if they are the folder variety, i recommend hjands.
[07:01] <Spit> do i need to do something in terminal?
[07:01] <kjm> What type of "progz"?
[07:01] <yossman> spit, for some things, yes you run them from terminal
[07:01] <Madpilot> Spit, what type of files?
[07:01] <AlienX> Spit, proably because progz are for 31337 h4x0r$ only
[07:01] <jordanau> could i delete that crappy java and put a link to my good install in the folder
[07:01] <yossman> otherwise they show up in your menus
[07:01] <yossman> haha alienx
[07:01] <AlienX> :)
[07:01] <AfterDeath> AlienX: you butcher it. its 1337
[07:01] <farous> spit normally you install linux progs from the package manager
[07:01] <Spit> i am ellet?
[07:01] <Eclypse> ardchoille, My video drivers messed up again, but before I screwed around with the settings causing them to mess up, I don't think there was any direct rendering for the desktop.
[07:02] <ardchoille> AlienX: lol
[07:02] <Spit> i program in C++
[07:02] <kjm> Spit : Obviously not
[07:02] <Spit> in windows...
[07:02] <Spit> but wondos sucks
[07:02] <Spit> n00b
[07:02] <jordanau> anybody here remember aol progz haha
[07:02] <AfterDeath> heh
[07:02] <Spit> linux owns
[09:13] (kjm/#ubuntu) yes, usually hitting either the F1 or del key at boot will get you there.
[09:13] (preston/#ubuntu) bayzider: so try to Sync your iPod now
[09:14] (bayzider/#ubuntu) preston: yeah the sync worked but i can sync on windows i need to beable to sync photos
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) Does anyone know what this error means?Opening video decoder: [dmo]  DMO video codecs
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: wmv9dmod.dll, /usr/lib/win32/wmv9dmod.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/wmv9dmod.dll
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) IMediaObject ERROR: 0x85de2b5  could not open DMO DLL (0x0 : 0)
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) Failed to create DMO filter
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) ERROR: Could not open required DirectShow codec wmv9dmod.dll.
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) You need to upgrade/install the binary codecs package.
[09:14] (shawnr_/#ubuntu) fyrestrtr, i installed the debs... its not working
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) Go to http://mplayerhq.hu/homepage/dload.html
[09:14] (kjm/#ubuntu) seshomaru  - good luck with it.  I do have to go to work now.
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) VDecoder init failed :(
[09:14] (shawnr_/#ubuntu) !pastebin
[09:14] (ubotu/#ubuntu) pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:14] (preston/#ubuntu) bayzider: you want to upload photos from Ubuntu to your iPod?
[09:14] (preston/#ubuntu) dmitriy: please don't paste in the channel
[09:14] (houssem/#ubuntu) don't work preston
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DemocracyPlayer
[09:14] <bayzider> preston:yes becuase itunes has never worked on windows for me
[09:14] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: could you give me a guide or something?
[09:14] <dmitriy> preston -- sorry
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: I am the guide lol
[09:15] <preston> houssem: sudo updatedb      wait          then     locate php5
[09:15] <seshomaru> kjm - thanks
[09:15] <preston> dmitriy: np
[09:15] <kjm> seshomaru - no worries.  Good luck with it.
[09:15] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: lmao... so just remove it... and come back where when it is done? lol
[09:15] <yacek19> I have got small problem with kde 3.4.5. Everytime I run kde, KPersonalizer turns on. It's annoying.
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: aye
[09:15] <tyeth> i dont know the default login to configure caudium on ubuntu 606
[09:15] <tyeth> can any1 advise
[09:16] <dmitriy> preston -- where can i get an answer about this error?
[09:16] <preston> bayzider: did you ever use any extra programs to mess with your iPod on windows...that could've hosed the directory
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> tyeth: what do you mean by 'default login' ?
[09:16] <tyeth> user and pass for web configuration interface
[09:16] <bayzider> preston: no itunes just dosent install i just recently refresed my ipod so its not that
[09:17] <houssem> ok, i found it in /etc/php5/cli
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> tyeth: you might want to look at the help of cadium.
[09:17] <houssem> and now how to start a php script ?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> houssem: php -q file.php
[09:17] <tyeth> yeh, the problem is, u set it urself during install
[09:17] <preston> dmitriy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs
[09:17] <houssem> and i should be in the /etc/php5/cli  ??
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> houssem: no, it can be anywhere.
[09:18] <tyeth> but im using ubuntu, with synaptic packagae manager and it doesnt prompt you for any input during install of caudium
[09:18] <preston> bayzider: so you can't see your iPod name on the left from within gtkpod?
[09:18] <dmitriy> preston -- the problem is i already have it installed
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> houssem: mkdir ~/my-php-scripts && cd ~/my-php-scripts && echo "<?php echo 'Hello there! This is php version'.phpversion(); ?>" >> test.php && php -q test.php
[09:19] <preston> dmitriy: writing over it should be fine
[09:19] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, not working: http://pastebin.ca/124788
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[09:22] (preston/#ubuntu) bayzider: you got me, bud...sorry I couldn't help you : (
[09:22] (Pyromaniak/#ubuntu) Flannel: the one for Xgl doesn't work for any of my machines...
[09:22] (bayzider/#ubuntu) preston: ok thanks any ways
[09:22] (Pyromaniak/#ubuntu) Flannel: its ok though... they all work now
[09:22] (Flannel/#ubuntu) Pyromaniak: XGL isn't officially supported by ubuntu in Dapper, so, it's not guarenteed ;)
[09:22] (preston/#ubuntu) bayzider: let's ask the room if they can help....
[09:23] (preston/#ubuntu) @Anyone: can anyone help 'bayzider' with a gtkpod .. photo sync question?
[09:23] (Pyromaniak/#ubuntu) Flannel: I'm not complaining.. just noting.. =P this machine is just a "for fun and break stuff" enviroments
[09:23] (beesandflowers/#ubuntu) hello all. i am looking for a vpn (pptp) software for ubuntu. i find mpe / pptp vpn client but it states that this software was created to support microsoft pptp servers. but i need to connect to a watchguard via pptp. do i use the same software?
[09:23] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: Ok, Wine is removed via synaptic
[09:24] <preston> beesandflowers: try OpenVPN
[09:24] <beesandflowers> preston: thanks, i will
[09:24] <erryko> HELP ME PLEASEEE!! i have downloaded the ubuntu live cd, but when the gui starts, after some seconds it completly freezes. i can't do anything! so, i downloaded and installed the alternate vversion, but it's the same. what can i do? thanks everyone
[09:24] <dmitriy> preston -- i installed it and everytime i run a video it just hangs and takes me to the login screen
[09:24] <rulus> beesandflowers: networkmanager?
[09:25] <abhinay> mplayer says "could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound , help plz ?
[09:25] <beesandflowers> rulus: what is networkmanager. something standard in ubuntu?
[09:25] <preston> beesandflowers: i believe that's the name....do a search for VPN on ubuntuforums to be sure
[09:25] <erryko> i started ubuntu in recovery mode (so, without services) and with root i wrote gdm, and it works
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: I think you need the browser suite, because democracy uses it as its web browsing component.
[09:25] <beesandflowers> preston: ok, i will check that out as well. thank you.
[09:25] <preston> dmitriy: the error you received had to with restricted codecs...downloading the correct ones should correct the problem
[09:25] <erryko> but.... not well, and i can't do this everytime :S
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: so, sudo apt-get install mozilla-browser
[09:26] <shawnr_> gay, i'll pass. thanks anyway though
[09:26] <shawnr_> too dependent
[09:26] <nu> =)
[09:26] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: sorry, I'm back
[09:26] <dmitriy> preston -- it used to work, and after i turn on the computer it just doesnt work anymore
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: okay, now download the latest wine source tarball.
[09:27] <preston> dmitriy: hmm...okay...do you have Gnome or KDE?  Why is it throwing you to a login screen?  Do you have GUI installed?  YOu need X at least
[09:27] <Necrosan_> yo
[09:27] <Necrosan_> I have a Sun Ultra 60
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: go to winehq.org, on the top right you'll see a latest release box, click on the link, and then click on the download link.
[09:27] <Necrosan_> I'd like to make it an ubuntu desktop
[09:27] <Necrosan_> gnome or xubuntu
[09:28] <Necrosan_> It has dual 360mhz ultra sparcs, and 1024mb ram
[09:28] <Necrosan_> What would you recommend I run
[09:28] <Necrosan_> And how do I go from ubuntu-server to desktop?
[09:28] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: its downloading
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> for your last question, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <Necrosan_> So after I get it installed and running properly
[09:29] <preston> dmitriy: try dist-upgrading...you may have some missing depencies that can be solved this way
[09:29] <Necrosan_> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <Necrosan_> Will get me to where a regular install would have?
[09:29] <dmitriy> preston -- Gnome, whenever i open any video file it just throws me to login screen, i have no clue why, if i did then i would fix it by now. Its a pretty much clean dapper install. It does have X
[09:29] <preston> dmitriy: dependencies
[09:29] <yossman> necrosan, probably close enough that you could fix the rest
[09:29] <yossman> using synaptic etc
[09:30] <ticki> how can i update Ubuntu where there is no internet connection. i am giving away a DVD, but people won't be able to update it.. is there a way i can burn the repository into a DVD?
[09:30] <Bonez> dmitriy: wow that sounds like a serious problem :( how did you go about installing your codecs?
[09:30] <preston> dmitriy: sorry...I have not heard of this ever happening...have you checked/posted on the forums yet?
[09:30] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: got it (on desktop)
[09:30] <dmitriy> Bonez -- u used automatix
[09:30] <preston> dmitriy: your X / Gnome seems hosed
[09:30] <Bonez> dmitriy: that sounds nasty. what sort of video card do you have?
[09:30] <dmitriy> preston -- could be
[09:30] <dmitriy> Bonez -- x850 pro
[09:31] <dmitriy> preston -- is there a way to reinstall it?
[09:31] <Bonez> dmitriy: what brand is that?
[09:31] <erryko> so noone can help me? :(
[09:31] <fateminasab> I want a converter to convert ogg to mp3. what program should i use?
[09:31] <h6w> Hey, I have a strange problem.  If I plug my wireless adapter in after my machine starts it gets assigned eth1 and works perfectly, however, if my wireless adapter is plugged in before my machine starts, it gets assigned eth2 and doesn't work.  Please help! :-)
[09:31] <dmitriy> Bonez -- ati
[09:31] <abhinay> no audio from mplayer , error: could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound   , any suggestions ?
[09:31] <acojlo> erryko, what?
[09:31] <shawnr_> HAHAHA, Microsoft blows!!! Who wants to see somthing funny as hell
[09:31] <nu> hey h6w
[09:31] <Bonez> shawnr_: bring it on :)
[09:31] <shawnr_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y_Jp6PxsSQ
[09:31] <h6w> hey nu.
[09:31] <dmitriy> Bonez -- everything worked fine untill the computer was not shutdown properly
[09:31] <Four23619> sure shawnr_
[09:32] <shawnr_> Four23619, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y_Jp6PxsSQ
[09:32] <erryko> i already wrote my problem, can i write it again?
[09:32] <Four23619> ty
[09:32] <nu> in the network manager thing, theres an option to which device to set to default.have you ried that?
[09:32] <carthik> I need to build a cheap, efficient PC for home use & have everything except the motherboard and CPU. I prefer AMD64 processors. Can anyone suggest a cheap mobo that works fine with Ubuntu, and is known for being good?
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: okay, hold a second please, need to fetch my notes.
[09:32] <acojlo> erryko, write
[09:32] <Bonez> fateminasab: sudo apt-cache search ogg to mp3
[09:32] <yacek19> I have annoying problem with kde, every time I start kde, kpersonalizer shows up. Why is that?
[09:32] <erryko> with both normal and alternate version, wieh the gui starts, after some seconds, it freezes. i can't do ANYTHING
[09:32] <Bonez> dmitriy: if it's only a new install then I suggest you format and reinstall again; sounds liek something didn't go quite right
[09:33] <Four23619> and hello Bonez :o) you and i visit the same forum
[09:33] <preston> fateminasb: try Audacity
[09:33] <Bonez> Four23619: we do? which one?
[09:33] <erryko> i tried to start it in recovery mode, without services, and i started gdm, and it works
[09:33] <yossman> carthik you can get AMD-based motherboards from asus from like $60 i bet
[09:33] <yossman> asus and abit generally make good boards i hear.
[09:33] <Four23619> Whirlpool
[09:33] <acojlo> erryko, you have just installed ubuntu or you have modified it?
[09:33] <preston> fateminsb: truly a killer audio app
[09:33] <nu> h6w: did you try it?
[09:33] <dmitriy> Bonez -- i had it for about 2 weeks, i didnt install to many things but i would not be happy to format everything, i spent alot of time doing everything
[09:33] <erryko> just installed
[09:33] <h6w> nu, did I try what?
[09:33] <Bonez> Four23619: fantastic. i'm the one who keeps pushing this channel... lol. what is your name on WP?
[09:33] <carthik> yossman, question is are they good, and will it work with Ubuntu - I don't want it to NOT work with Ubuntu Linux :)
[09:33] <erryko> i didn't touch anything
[09:33] <Bonez> dmitriy: have you install XGL at all?
[09:33] <Four23619> Four23619, but i hardly post
[09:34] <dmitriy> Bonez -- nope
[09:34] <Four23619> im user 73332
[09:34] <acojlo> erryko, which graphic card you have?
[09:34] <Four23619> also from the same city
[09:34] <erryko> nvidia gforce 4. but this is not the problem, because
[09:34] <erryko> if i start only gdm, without the other services, it works properly
[09:34] <yossman> carthik i imagine they will work fine
[09:34] <h6w> nu, was that network manager default idea directed at me?  If so, yes, I tried it.  It doesn't work.
[09:34] <Bonez> dmitriy: sorry I've never heard of that problem and can't really suggest anything :( feel sorry for you though. hope you get it sorted out
[09:34] <carthik> thanks yossman
[09:34] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: if it helps any there is a "guide" for it on the winehq for Continuum (says how to install it, maybe you could just explain the steps?)
[09:34] <yossman> i don't use AMD chips precisely because i don't want any incompatibilities
[09:35] <erryko> i think that there is 1 service that freezes everythig
[09:35] <dmitriy> Bonez -- also sometimes when i login it throws me out and only logges in from like 2nd time or 3rd, and when i logout i get to a white scrren where im unable to do anything
[09:35] <^richiefrich> erryko can u get it to load on a ..  startx
[09:35] <yossman> but, having said that, AMD makes some nice chips
[09:35] <yossman> and they're cheaper than intel.
[09:35] <nu> nu: test
[09:35] <yossman> so ;)
[09:35] <acojlo> erryko, so when you start kdm it frozzes? Gdm works good, but when you log on it frozzes?
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: yeah you need a boatload of packages first on your system, so I'm gathering a list of those.
[09:35] <`paul> issued ./configure and got this error "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler  cannot create executables"
[09:35] <`paul> ano solution?
[09:35] <erryko> what's kdm?
[09:35] <preston> `paul: sudo aptitude install build-essentials
[09:35] <acojlo> 'paul, you probably miss some packages
[09:35] <preston> `paul: then try again
[09:35] <`paul> ok will try
[09:35] <erryko> no, it freezed if it starts normally
[09:36] <^richiefrich> erryko can u get it to load on a ..  startx ?
[09:36] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: yeah... I need a boat cause I'm up the river without a paddle
[09:36] <erryko> to let it work i have to press esc while grub is loading
[09:36] <acojlo> erryko, gdm and kdm do same job - but don't think right now about kdm - because it's no sollution for your problem
[09:36] <rulus> join #edgy
[09:36] <erryko> and start the recovery mode
[09:36] <micahcowan> carthik, I (and many others) use AMD. They work excellently with Linux, which is specifically designed to work with them as well as other chips.
[09:36] <erryko> and from root i write gdm, so it works
[09:36] <acojlo> erryko, when you start normally, do you get to gdm login screen?
[09:36] <h6w> Sorry, nu.   Your line was in yellow   so it looked like the previous person's line.
[09:36] <Bonez> rulus: I think you mean #ubuntu+1
[09:37] <erryko> sometimes yes, sometimes no. because it freezes in different times
[09:37] <erryko> sometimes immediatly
[09:37] <erryko> sometimes after 2 secs
[09:37] <`paul> preston: still same error
[09:37] <acojlo> aha, ok, there is a way to debug
[09:37] <nu> h6w: no problem. On the network manager thing, there's an option to set a device to default. did you try it?
[09:37] <h6w> Nu, yes.
[09:37] <erryko> at best, 30 seconds
[09:37] <carthik> micahcowan, so a socket 939 and an AMD64 processor should do it then?
[09:37] <nu> h6w: then i don't know lol =/
[09:37] <dmitriy> Bonez -- hmmm i have 2 x sessions running for dual monitors, ill try disabling the second one maybe it will work
[09:37] <`paul> preston: can i pm u the result of install build-essentials?
[09:38] <acojlo> erryko, when you press ESC you have a option to select kernel. Go over normal kernel and then press 'E'
[09:38] <preston> `paul: what exactly are you trying to do?  sure.