[00:47] <user|83577> got a series of updates last week and since then everything has slowed, typing loading everything.been looking for answers for awhile found out my nvidia card drivers aren't there anymore and some qt additional drivers thing is not working since update
[00:47] <user|83577> not sure what to do
[00:50] <user|83577> Im using Kubuntu 20.04.1 fresh install
[00:51] <user|83577> also now only one of 2 monitors is even rcognized
[01:42] <valorie> hmm, and they left
 Hello valorie
[05:11] <user|15797> kubuntu development release ran into same update issue as neon before
[05:11] <user|15797> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=309&t=168189
[05:13] <user|15797> black screen and then
[05:13] <user|15797> kwin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkwin.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZN14KWaylandServer17XdgShellInterface14surfaceCreatedEPNS_24XdgShellSurfaceInterfaceE
 i am the same user as above
 kwin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkwin.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZN14KWaylandServer17XdgShellInterface14surfaceCreatedEPNS_24XdgShellSurfaceInterfaceE
 downgrading to libkf5waylandserver5_5.74.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb  from groovy also did not help
 Fwd from Utkarsh: Hey, … Is there a GUI option for OpenVPN on linux ? I need it to use my university VPN through a  configuration file they provide.
 @derEremit, This should hopefully resolve itself later today. Not all of Plasma 5.20.3 has hit the release pocket yet, as some parts trigger QA tests against other packages (update-notifier etc), and those tests are a bit backlogged.
[08:25] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:33] <_genuser_> hi people. I have an odd issue, plasmashell keeps crashing. no idea how to fix it..
[09:33] <_genuser_> does anybody know how to debug it?
[09:47] <lordievader> _genuser_: Start by running it in a terminal, that way you might get a clue as to why it crashes.
[09:57] <_genuser_> lordievader: so I was able to delete the plasma files in ~/.config and restart.
[09:58] <_genuser_> it was crashing on a pluging called Menu Z.
[09:58] <_genuser_> thanks!
[10:02] <m_tadeu> hi...my kubuntu is not starting properly. the login screen is a black screen
[12:16] <fahad-M> <user|83577 "got a series of updates last wee"> sounds like lot of people having issues with updates, is ubuntu changing to windwos or sth?
 im using a custom kernel which do not support virtualbox, what should i do?
 Loading new virtualbox-6.1.10 DKMS files... … Building for 5.9.8-xanmod1 … Building initial module for 5.9.8-xanmod1 … ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-5.9.8-xanmod1 is not supported … Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 5.9.8-xanmod1 (x86_64) … Consult /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox/6.1.10/build/make.log for more information. … dpkg: error processing package virtualbox-dkms (--configure): …
 @SharGen19, Don't do random installs. Do some planning beforehand by checking compatibility, user reviews, etc.
 Three days back i installed dev stack on my system. Zero errors because I followed the installation guide on dev stack website. Downloaded the right package and read user reviews before installation.
[13:41] <lordievader> SharGen19 Any specific reason you are running a custom kernel over the packed ones?
 @lordievader, Nope, I was tolded it better for gaming, haven't tested games tho, but idk
[13:45] <lordievader> Quite unlikely. Besides you run into issues like this. You could configure the DKMS in such a way that it would build modules for your custom config, but that is really more trouble than it is worth.
 Mhm
 Hello
 Btw why in system info it shows I have 5.8gig ram where I have 6gig ram
 In my other laptop it shows 4.8gig ram, where I have 6gig ram
 @SharGen19, :v
 In my first laptop the swap utilisation is very less, I have 13gig space and it only use it in kbs
 (Photo, 415x66) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/5yHa3cIn/file_38789.jpg Hola
 :)
 Uhm that's windows
 Wait i'm going to install Kubuntu =)
[15:06] <lordievader> SharGen19: Your hardware is likely using some of your ram (particularly integrated gpu's do this).
 Is anyone using kubuntu in `TUF a15`? Is it fully compatible? Any issues with graphic drivers?
 I am having issues regarding latte.....when I am opening my laptop...latte is not coming automatically...I have to open that manually....I am facing this issue now... earlier it was working good...ANY FIX...
 @SharGen19, Your system must be 32bit.
 Ah
 @sammy_v, My laptop processor only suppose 64 bit
 Ok. Then it must be shared memory with integrated graphics.
 Also when linux use snap memory?
 3rd reason might be that os is limiting the ram usage to 5.8gb.
[18:59] <leaftype2> is it normal for kubuntu to load the UI... last? First it's konversation then Discover, then the note widget... THEN the background... and eventualy gets the panel
[20:27]  * abze hi there this is an ame msg come to follow
[21:04] <Moettke> Is it possible to upgrade from 20.04 to 20.10?
 (Photo, 1280x722) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/lftBFDtr/file_38818.jpg All working here now
[21:47] <Mamarok> Moettke: yes, of course, you need to change the source updates from LTS to normal release, though


[09:04] <brendand> pitti, can we force adt-run to install a specific package in the system path rather than the tmp location?
[09:04] <brendand> pitti, we hit a new issue with confined apps and libqttestability
[09:05] <pitti> brendand: if the root fs is r/o, we can't install packages there
[09:05] <pitti> brendand: you could of course make the test check if it's running on a phone, then remount-rw, call apt-get install, remount-ro
[09:05] <pitti> but -- eww :)
[09:06] <brendand> pitti, oh yeah as a --setup-command
[09:06] <pitti> or that (if you have control over that)
[09:06] <brendand> pitti, it is ew. but the only other thing i could think to fix it would be to hack the apparmor profile to allow access to the /tmp/ path
[09:07] <brendand> pitti, if it's possible then it's still much more ewww than the former
[09:07] <brendand> pitti, basically the problem is the app can't load the testability library as it's in /tmp
[09:07] <pitti> brendand: OOI, what is the actual problem? the test needs libqttestability but that isn't already installed in the image?
[09:08] <pitti> ah
[09:08] <brendand> pitti, like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12797190/
[09:14] <pitti> brendand: perhaps it'd be better to install that into the images then? don't we need this for pretty much every test? is it very big?
[09:14] <pitti> brendand: or we could change the adb setup script to munge the apparmor rules further; it already does that, after all
[09:14] <pitti> brendand: perhaps that'd be the best solution for now?
[09:20] <brendand> pitti, oh it does? that would be ideal then. i guess it would be safe to add that very specific path
[09:21] <brendand> pitti, i should have known that, i've spent enough time waiting for apparmor profiles to update :)
[09:24] <pitti> brendand: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/autopkgtest/autopkgtest.git/tree/lib/adt_testbed.py#n694
[09:25] <pitti> brendand: not sure if that's the correct spot, though
[09:25] <brendand> pitti, no it's nothing to do with clicks i don't think
[09:27] <brendand> pitti, do you have time to do a patch or would you prefer to leave it to us? it's pretty critical for us but might take a little bit longer to work it out
[09:29] <pitti> brendand: if you can work on it, that'd be good; I have too many "omgnow" issues to work on right now
[09:30] <brendand> pitti, i suppose http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/autopkgtest/autopkgtest.git/tree/lib/adt_testbed.py#n716 is somewhat relevant
[09:30] <brendand> pitti, i should just do the same thing for LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[09:30] <brendand> ?
[09:30] <brendand> would be good to know i'm at least on the right track
[09:31] <pitti> brendand: yes, that's right
[09:32] <pitti> brendand: note that if you don't install a click, the "else" branch hits and allows introspection for all clicks
[09:32] <pitti> brendand: that's for the case when you test a deb source, and adt-run can't know in advance which clicks you want to talk to
[09:32] <pitti> brendand: so either way, def apparmor_click() should be relevant for you
[09:33] <pitti> brendand: feel free to add some adtlog.debug() calls (and run with -d)
[12:33] <brendand> pitti, i just did a patch but it appears not to be working...
[12:34] <brendand> pitti, i'm sure the path to the .so file was added though
[12:39] <pitti> brendand: you should see that in the debug output; and you could just run a mini-test which only does "env" to verify it all the way through?
[12:40] <pitti> ah wait, apparmor -- so run the test and run "dmesg" after it or so?
[12:49] <brendand> pitti, the rules update call looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12798413/
[13:06] <brendand> pitti, do you know how to check the apparmor rules, is there a tool for that?
[13:06] <pitti> brendand: I don't know further than just setting them and checking violations in dmesg
[13:07] <pitti> you can put the profile into complain mode to just get the logged violations but don't actually block them
[13:07] <pitti> but as you probably just need one rule that sholdn't matter much
[13:07] <brendand> pitti, i can see '/tmp/adt-run.zBvagg/deps/usr/lib/** r' in the set of rules clearly, but still get the violation
[13:46] <willcooke> nuclearbob, hey!   Can you tell me what output we get from the upgrade tests for the desktop?
[13:50] <balloons> nuclearbob, just curious for an update on how the flavors ubiquity AP tests are running also ;-)
[13:51] <davmor2> willcooke: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/340/builds
[13:54] <nuclearbob> willcooke: I'm working on defining more of that as we overhaul those and move them to adt, actually. If you've got requests, it's a great time to figure that out. I'll be out for a medical appointment for a bit, so you can email me, or I'll ping you when I get back
[13:55] <nuclearbob> balloons: I've been focused more on getting the auto upgrade tests into adt for the moment. The ubiquity tests are still all failing on my system, so I'll need to diagnose that. The results should be published to the canonistack instance if anyone else wants to take a look. If someone can say "hey, change this line and ubuntu passes" then adding flavors will be the next easy step
[13:56] <willcooke> nuclearbob, thx.  In a meeting with davmor2 and brendand atm, so perhaps a catch up next week?
[13:57] <nuclearbob> willcooke: sounds good. That's the main thing I'm working on right now, so if you have any thoughts about what you'd like to see, send them over any time
[13:58] <willcooke> nuclearbob, will do, thanks
[13:59] <balloons> nuclearbob, ack. If you don't mind sending that along to the mailing list again, I think it would be useful. Seeing the results; even if broken, would be useful. And we can get more eyes on what might be wrong
[14:19] <davmor2> willcooke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1499873
[14:19] <ubot5`> Error: ubuntu bug 1499873 not found
[20:46] <nuclearbob> balloons: I'm checking on the job publishing, and it hasn't actually worked yet, so I'll try to get that backlog pushed correctly so other people can see the results. I'm running it now, and if there are further problems, I can look at them on monday
[21:08]  * flocculant has nuclearbob as a ping :)
[21:08] <flocculant> just to see if flavours gets mentioned
[21:08] <knome> :D
[21:08] <flocculant> and I bet balloons has gone awol again


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[01:12] <tomreyn> hi! https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA states that "Launchpad generates a unique key for each PPA and uses it to sign any packages built in that PPA.".
[01:12] <tomreyn> are all Launchpad PPAs signed with 1024-bit RSA keys only? Is this still the default in 2017?
[01:14] <tomreyn> Can Launchpad users override the default key parameters? it would be good to initiate a campaign to move away from 1024 RSA-keys. And to set a much better default if this has not happened, yet.
[01:19] <tomreyn> On a different topic, https://launchpad.net/projects/+new points to https://staging.launchpad.net, which says "Uh oh! Something has gone wrong." I assume it should actually be pointing to http://qastaging.launchpad.net ?
[01:32] <tomreyn> On yet another topic, https://help.launchpad.net/Feedback points to http://identi.ca/launchpadstatus which has seen its latest update in april 2015 - this could be fine, but I suspect it should actually point to https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus ?
[01:35] <wgrant> tomreyn: New PPAs have received 4096R keys for some years now, but we haven't migrated old keys from 1024R yet (because migrating existing end-users is challenging)
[01:35] <wgrant> staging.launchpad.net is down for a while over the weekend while its database upgrades.
[01:36] <wgrant> identi.ca is pretty dead -- we've updated most links to point to Twitter, but apparently forgot that one.
[01:36]  * wgrant fixes.
[01:36] <tomreyn> okay, that's a relieve (about RSA key). i checked the PPAs i use on the ubuntu 16.04 i have here and they all got 1024-bit RSA keys
[01:37] <tomreyn> i understand that migrating off it would require user interaction. but it still seems very necessary.
[01:37] <wgrant> It's something we're likely to look at this year, so we can get it sorted before Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[01:38] <tomreyn> that'd be greta (and very much about time)
[01:38] <tomreyn> i also understand that it's not strictly launchpad's job (as a platform or software) to initiate this, but rather that of the PPA maintainers (if they have a choice, not sure they do)
[01:40] <wgrant> Yeah, it's a slightly complicated situation.
[01:41] <tomreyn> thanks for your feedback and prompt response on this :)
[01:42] <wgrant> tomreyn: You can use qastaging in the meantime. staging probably won't be back for about 24h.
[01:42] <wgrant> Need to migrate it to its new fast DB servers soon...
[01:42] <tomreyn> ahem, i already do ;)


[14:20] <Ackis> hey everyone - is there an interpreter for upstart configs? Kind of like www.shellcheck.net/ ?