[04:12] <lugu> hi all, may i ask what is the status of GDB? i always run into SIGILL in dl_main... any idea?
[04:13] <GrueMaster> Try asking in #linaro.  They tend to work with those tools far more often, and I believe they may actually be supporting it on arm directly.
[04:13] <lugu> ok thanks!
[05:08] <MrCurious> why cant i find the package that libXxf86misc.so is in?!?!
[05:10] <GrueMaster> try "dpkg-query -S <path-to>/libXxf86misc.so
[05:11] <MrCurious> nope
[05:11] <MrCurious> seems ubuntu chose not to include this library
[05:11] <GrueMaster> Oh, are you looking for it to install?
[05:13] <MrCurious> X11_Xxf86misc_LIB
[05:13] <MrCurious> cant divine out the source package name
[05:14] <GrueMaster> May not be in the images anymore.  I was looking direclty on my mirror, which has everything from 10.04 forward for arm.
[05:21] <GrueMaster> But LP is more diffinative.
[05:21] <GrueMaster> At any rate, I'm running on fumes.  13 hour workday.
[05:22] <GrueMaster> night
[05:23] <ScottK> Meh.  That's hardly over half time.
[06:19] <MrCurious> cvdemo has a decent frame rate on panda connected to a kinect
[06:20] <MrCurious> i am not entirely unpleased
[07:22] <LBo> Hi, does anyone know how to change the extraversion variable when creating kernel packages with dpkg-buildpackage?
[07:22] <LBo> I've tried EXTRAVERSION=-leon dpkg-buildpackage -B -uc -us but that didn't work :)
[07:22] <LBo> make-kpkg doesn't work. It complains about some missing commands from a x86 only package
[08:47] <hrw> x-loader-omap4 was deprecated in favour or x-loader - right?
[08:49] <hrw> ogra_: bug 806864 is for you
[08:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 806864 in x-loader-omap4 "remove from repository" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806864
[08:55] <infinity> hrw: You win a bug closure! ;)
[09:05] <hrw> fun is that I have this message on oneiric
[09:06] <hrw> once it will finish upgrade I will sent apport-collect
[09:06] <infinity> hrw: Which means you have/had the package installed at one point, and now dpkg has gotten grumpy about the stanza...
[09:06] <infinity> hrw: Perhaps worth filing a bug against dpkg for suddenly being irked by version numbers that it used to let slide.
[09:07] <hrw> un  x-loader-omap4                     <none>                             (no description available)
[09:07] <hrw> ii  x-loader-omap4-panda               1.5.0+git20110325+b6bbfe7-1ubuntu1 Board initialization helper for TI OMAP 4 Panda boards
[09:07] <infinity> hrw: Yes, note the "had"... The stanza is in there because you used to have it installed, I assume.
[09:07] <hrw> added dpkg to bug
[09:07] <infinity> hrw: Or you have maverick in your sources.list or something...
[09:08] <infinity> hrw: (apt-cache policy x-loader-omap4)
[09:08] <hrw> none
[09:08] <hrw> N: Unable to locate package x-loader-omap4
[09:10] <infinity> Kay, then it's just stale info in the available DB from having it previously installed.
[09:11] <hrw> added data to bug
[09:11] <infinity> You can fix *your* issue with "dpkg --forget-old-unavail" probably.
[09:11] <infinity> But the part where dpkg suddenly got stricter is still a bug/misfeature.
[09:13] <hrw> will leave it like it is for now
[09:13] <ogra_> infinity, hmm, do you knnow if GrueMaster re-tested omap3 images ?
[09:13] <infinity> ogra_: What's to re-test, we didn't change them, did we?
[09:14] <ogra_> (the u-boort bug is supposed to be fixed, the iso tracker still lists it)
[09:14] <infinity> Oh.
[09:14] <ogra_> we respun all images yesterday
[09:14] <infinity> I'm not sure what the status of omap3 stuff is, to be fair.  You'll have to ask him in the morning.
[09:14] <ogra_> i see he tested all omap4 and omap3 wont have a fixed kernel
[09:14] <ogra_> i was just curious
[09:15] <infinity> Speaking of images, though.  We still have resizing issues on desktop, apparently.
[09:16] <infinity> Fails to actually resize, explodes with ext3 errors.
[09:16] <infinity> Yet server works fine.
[09:16] <infinity> (Again, this is all second-hand from GrueMaster, so you might want to follow up with him)
[09:17] <ogra_> yeah, we'll skip desktop for A2 i think
[09:18] <ogra_> that will likely need some bigger changes, alonngside with the live-build ones
[09:18] <infinity> Fun, fun.
[09:18] <ogra_> looks to me like the underlying filesystem isnt really resize friendly ... alongside with bugs in jasper
[09:19] <infinity> Well, I'll mangle live-build tomorrow (obviously not uploading until after A2), and pass it by you for a quick review.
[09:20] <infinity> I need to get involved in live-build upstream, I think.  There are things I need to do to it that won't be pretty without upstream buy-in.
[09:20] <infinity> But first, I need sleep.
[09:20] <ogra_> yeah, go to bed
[09:21] <infinity> Yes mom.
[09:21] <ogra_> :)
[09:23] <infinity> hrw: Oh, wait.  I just realised that issue you were seeing was a warning, not an error.
[09:24] <infinity>   * Do not allow versions starting with non-digit when doing strict parsing,
[09:24] <infinity>     warn otherwise.
[09:24] <infinity> hrw: Probably not really bug-worthy at all, just annoying that someone (glances at ogra_) used a policy-breaking version number in the past. :P
[09:25] <ogra_> ??
[09:25] <ogra_> from where is that ?
[09:26] <infinity> ogra_: In maverick, you shipped an x-loader-omap4 that had an "L" as the first character in the version.
[09:27] <ogra_> uh, yeah upstream ...
[09:27] <infinity> ogra_: New dpkg is stricter about policy compliance and now vomits warnings about that being in the status file.
[09:27] <ogra_> hrm ...
[09:27] <infinity> (Traditionally, when upstreams have non-policy-compliant versions, we mangle them, like 0.L4-whatever, etc)
[09:27] <infinity> Anyhow, can't go back in time and fix it.
[09:28] <ogra_> nope, sadly ... that stain stick on me now
[09:28] <infinity> And the number of users who will be upgrading from maverick on omap4 systems can probably be counted without removing my socks.
[09:28] <ogra_> *sticks
[09:28] <ogra_> oh, we might have more then ten that do it
[09:28] <ogra_> not by much though i belive
[09:28] <infinity> Possibly, but I wouldn't say it's a large number. :P
[09:29] <infinity> I don't doubt there were a chunk of maverick omap4 users, but the tester/devel types are probably reinstalling every 3 minutes, and the "normal users" (all 4 of them) are more likely to just re-flash new images than upgrade, on these sorts of devices.
[09:30] <infinity> So.  Meh.  Whatever.
[09:30] <ogra_> yep
[09:31] <infinity> I think I'll just close this dpkg bug then.
[09:32] <infinity> hrw: You can hit me later for having marked two tasks in a row as "invalid" on this bug. :P
[09:32] <infinity> hrw: But at least I left a friendly comment!
[09:33] <ogra_> i wonder why lintian didnt complian, i never roll new packages without checking, i think i would have noticed such an error ...
[09:34] <infinity> Dunno.  Seems odd that it wouldn't, since this has been in policy for over a decade.
[09:34] <infinity> Oh, but it's a "should", not a "must".
[09:34] <ogra_> aww
[09:34] <infinity> Hence why dpkg is warning, not erroring, I guess. :P
[09:34] <infinity> Small mercies.
[09:35] <hrw> infinity: thx
[09:36] <hrw> hrw@panda:~$ LC_ALL=C dpkg --forget-old-unavail
[09:36] <hrw> dpkg: warning: obsolete '--forget-old-unavail' option, unavailable packages are automatically cleaned up.
[09:36] <hrw> ;D
[09:36] <hrw> I had to switch to English translation cause I was unable to understand Polish one ;D
[09:38] <infinity> Automatically cleaned up, eh?  Seems not, in your case. :P
[09:44] <hrw> ;)
[09:48] <infinity> hrw: --clear-avail probably still works. :P
[09:49] <hrw> yes, it does
[09:50] <infinity> For entertainment value, there's a huge policy-versus-dpkg debate in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=620566
[09:50] <ubot2> Debian bug 620566 in dpkg "dpkg: "version number does not start with digit" is in" [Normal,Open]
[09:56] <stm__> hi all
[09:57] <stm__> iam running ubuntu 10.04 on my pandaboard
[09:57] <stm__> now i builded a kernel with xenomai
[09:58] <stm__> i replaced uImage of previously running kernel which i got from preinstalled images
[09:58] <stm__> but it giving me some errors
[09:59] <stm__> Is there any documentation to built the ubuntu filesystem for custom builded kernels
[10:02] <hrw> update-initramfs -c -kVER-OF-YOUR-KERNEL?
[10:04] <stm__> the error its giving me is unable to load modules
[10:11] <infinity> Did you install your modules after you compiled the kernel?
[10:16] <ogra_> also copying the config to /boot/config-$version helps
[10:16] <ogra_> iirc update-initramfs checks for that too
[10:17] <stm__> yes i installed my modules
[10:18] <stm__> update-initramfs -c -k <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:19] <ogra_> you could add -v then you see what exactly it tries to do ...
[10:19] <ogra_> might reveal you more info
[10:35] <lilstevie> ogra_: on the transformer I do not have the same issue with size
[10:36] <ogra_> size ?
[10:36] <lilstevie> ogra_: my partition is 8MB flat, but can be extended if needed
[10:36] <ogra_> ah, then you have a more friendly bootloader :)
[10:36] <ogra_> the ac100 one can be changed as well
[10:36] <lilstevie> heh :)
[10:36] <ogra_> in fact NCommander did that for many models areound we installed
[10:37] <lilstevie> well I am compressing the initramfs LZMA to fit
[10:37] <ogra_> but its not really an enduser task to hack around in the bootloader
[10:37] <lilstevie> well resizing can be done with nvflash
[10:37] <ogra_> my size probelm is a problem with this specific kernel i think
[10:37] <lilstevie> ah
[10:38] <lilstevie> ogra_: you seen it running on the transformer yet?
[10:38] <ogra_> yep
[10:38] <ogra_> pretty slow though
[10:41] <lilstevie> yeah
[10:41] <lilstevie> need to start on some optimizations
[10:41] <lilstevie> fb is the biggest issue
[10:41] <lilstevie> up to 70% usage on one core at a time
[10:41] <lilstevie> at any one time*
[10:54] <ogra_> you could try the nvidia driver ;)
[10:54] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/~ac100/+archive/ppa/
[10:54] <ogra_> should work on the transformer too
[10:55] <ogra_> GLES is still a problem though
[10:58] <lilstevie> I get a black screen
[10:58] <ogra_> with that driver ?
[10:58] <lilstevie> and I still have no wifi :)
[10:58] <lilstevie> the nvidia driver
[10:58] <ogra_> got an Xorg log ?
[10:58] <lilstevie> injected using their script
[10:59] <lilstevie> nothing on it
[10:59] <ogra_> no idea what their script does or if it hooks into the right places in the system
[11:01] <lilstevie> well it is done through an xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[11:01] <ogra_> ??
[11:01] <lilstevie> I still have everything in my fs, minus that config file
[11:01] <ogra_> you mean the script puts that in place
[11:01] <lilstevie> yeah
[11:01] <ogra_> right
[11:02] <ogra_> well, it needs to mangle the ldconfig configuration, and should set the right alternative for the driver
[11:02] <lilstevie> ah
[11:02] <lilstevie> I will try through the PPA then
[11:02] <ogra_> it should also put udev rules in place to get you the proper acls for the kernel devices the driver needs to access
[11:02] <lilstevie> still need to figure out this fing wifi though
[11:03] <ogra_> well, there are several broadcom drivers you should be able to try
[11:05] <lilstevie> I don't know if that will help
[11:08] <lilstevie> my driver is identical to the xoom one apart from like 6 lines (wakelock defs)
[11:09] <lilstevie> the xoom one works, mine doesnt
[11:13] <apw> ogra_, how is the new kernle
[11:14] <ogra_> apw, all fine, thanks :)
[11:15] <stm__> update-initramfs -c -k [<IP_ADDRESS>] update-initramfs: No match.
[11:15] <stm__> update -initramfs -c -k -v
[11:16] <stm__>  []<IP_ADDRESS> ]
[11:16] <stm__> even that also gicing the same error
[11:16] <stm__> no match
[11:17] <stm__> i have moved config and system map files to boot
[11:23] <ogra_> why did you put the version in brackets ?
[11:28] <stm__> when i run update-initramfs -c -k
[11:29] <stm__> it showing me options
[11:29] <stm__> test06:/media/disk-3/etc# update-initramfs -c -k /usr/sbin/update-initramfs: option requires an argument -- k Usage: /usr/sbin/update-initramfs [OPTION]...  Options:  -k [version]   Specify kernel version or 'all'  -c             Create a new initramfs  -u             Update an existing initramfs  -d             Remove an existing initramfs  -t             Take over a custom initramfs with this one  -b             Set alternate bo
[11:30] <lilstevie> stm__: yeah replace [version] with the version not put it in the brackets :)
[11:30] <lilstevie> update-initramfs -c -k <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:31] <stm__> thanks
[11:32] <stm__> is that the only change i have do
[11:32] <stm__> inorder to boot withe the new uImage
[11:37] <lilstevie> ogra_: do you have sound working on the AC100
[11:38] <ogra_> no
[11:38] <ogra_> not yet
[11:38] <ogra_> there is active work going on though
[11:38] <lilstevie> ok :)
[11:38] <ogra_> and i gave a device to one of the ubuntu alsa guys
[11:38] <ogra_> but he is on paternity leave for a few weeks now
[11:39] <lilstevie> ah
[11:40] <ogra_> others in #ac100 are hacking on it though
[11:41] <lilstevie> I can get aplay to show the device but not play anything
[11:42] <ogra_> same here
[11:42] <ogra_> what coded does the transformer use ?
[11:42] <ogra_> *codec
[11:42] <lilstevie> WM8903
[11:43] <ogra_> hmm, no idea about that one
[11:43] <ogra_> ac100 uses a relatek
[11:43] <ogra_> *realtek
[11:43] <lilstevie> ah
[11:44] <ogra_> alc53**
[11:44] <ogra_> or so
[12:20] <stm__> hi all
[12:24] <stm__> the modules for the new kernel have only drivers directory
[12:24] <stm__> when i run update initramfs
[12:24] <stm__> it giving me the error
[12:24] <ogra_> but you ran make mudules_install when you built your kernel ?
[12:24] <stm__> yes
[12:24] <stm__> i ran
[12:25] <stm__> it given me <IP_ADDRESS> directory
[12:25] <ogra_> so /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ should have modules if you selected any in the config
[12:25] <stm__> in lib
[12:26] <stm__> i mean it giving me the error cound not find crzpto directory
[12:26] <stm__> crypto
[12:27] <ogra_> when you installed the crypto stuff should have been removed by the installer ... strange
[12:27] <ogra_> unless you selected "encrypt my home dir" on the user creation page
[12:28] <ogra_> you can manually uninstall cryptsetup though
[12:28] <ogra_> if your kernel has no support for it
[12:29] <stm__> what is the relation with crypt stuff and initrd image
[12:30] <ogra_> to unencrypt filesystems before they get mounted you need to get the password
[12:30] <ogra_> that happens in initrd
[12:31] <ogra_> for all filesystems that have to be in place before login
[12:31] <stm__> ok
[12:33] <stm__> iam sorry for these type questions . iam bit new to this .
[12:34] <stm__> then do i need to uninstall crzpto stuff
[12:34] <stm__> crypto stuff
[12:34] <stm__> to make update this initramfs
[12:52] <hrw> wm8xxx are nice supported in linux usually
[13:00] <hrw> lilstevie: broonie (Mark Brown) is maintainer of wm**** drivers
[13:24] <stm__> @ogra : do i need to change boot args
[13:24] <stm__> for the root device
[13:26] <ogra_> no, the installer should have set the UUID properly
[13:30] <c933103> Is it possible to install the prebuild arm Ubuntu rom on a random omap4 android phone without typing phone-specific commands?
[13:31] <LetoThe2nd> strange, yesterday someone in #pandaboard asked nearly the same and couldn't believe that pandaboard images were not at all meant for his funky motorola thing.
[13:43] <lilstevie> what are "phone-specific" commands
[13:43] <ogra_> whisteling the right tunes to imitate a keypad ?
[13:43] <lilstevie> heh
[13:44] <c933103> Mean you no need to modify command that you type according to the phone you have…
[13:45]  * LetoThe2nd guesses he refers to obscure rooting and flashing command from some homebrew-rom-installer board.
[13:45] <LetoThe2nd> c3would you mind giving an example, link?
[13:52] <c933103> .. can't think of an example ..
[14:02] <LetoThe2nd> then how did you get the idea it could be necessary?
[14:06] <c933103> As people prefer step by step instruction but to any things that need to test and correct themselves……
[14:09] <LetoThe2nd> *** statement parsing error: ENOTUNDERSTANDABLE - bailing out.
[14:11] <c933103> in another word people doesn't like thinking…
[14:52] <stm__> hi
[14:52] <stm__> it i mean the booting prcess giving me the same result
[14:53] <stm__> uncompressing linux done
[14:53] <stm__> booting the kernel
[15:29] <NCommander> ogra_: having the large partition is extremely nice, no cosntant out of disk spce warnings :-)
[15:30] <ogra_> i never have that :)
[15:30] <ogra_> but i also dont use much data on the local disk ... my payload lives externally
[15:35] <lag> ogra_: Where is the delta review page?
[15:35] <lag> ogra_: I don't see what delta I have
[15:35] <ogra_> lag, no idea, i didnt even know about that spec :)
[15:41] <lilstevie> I need to figure out how to layout my emmc :p
[15:41] <lilstevie> I crave the speed of moving internal
[15:42] <GrueMaster> emmc? Which platform?
[15:42] <ogra_> transformer i guess
[15:46] <lilstevie> that one :)
[15:46] <ogra_> not much different from ac100 in that regard
[15:47] <ogra_> more ram, bigger panel and different wlan
[15:47] <lilstevie> gpt on the ac100?
[15:47] <ogra_> ah, no
[15:47] <lilstevie> don't forget the different audio codec :p
[15:47] <ogra_> i thought it used a fastboot based installer too
[15:47] <ogra_> oh, yeah
[15:47] <ogra_> well, they are both tegra2 :P
[15:47] <lilstevie> heh
[15:48] <lilstevie> is yours harmony or ventana
[15:48] <ogra_> harmony based i think
[15:48]  * ogra_ isnt sure
[15:48] <lilstevie> ah ok, this one is ventana
[15:48] <ogra_> bah, so they are totally different devices that pretend to be the same :P
[15:48] <lilstevie> heh
[15:50] <stm__> i have included earlyprintk  /boot/boot.script  stiliam seeing nothing after uncompressing linux
[15:51] <stm__> but it booting fine if i replaces the uimage
[15:54] <lilstevie> ogra_: wifi is not looking good on this device
[15:55] <lilstevie> there is a userland binary which runs after module is loaded and firmware has been uploaded
[18:55] <stm__> hi all
[18:56] <stm__> i have problem while booting with the custom uImage
[18:56] <stm__> its giving me uncompressing linux
[18:57] <stm__> if i change root to /dev/mmcblk0p2
[18:57] <stm__> then the root device is notmounting
[18:58] <persia> Do you have a rootfs on a device that your kernel detects as /dev/mmcblk0p2 ?
[18:58] <stm__> i have ubuntu rootfs on device
[18:58] <stm__> i have bulded a custom uImage
[18:59] <stm__> it is booting good if i used the preinstalled images from ubuntu
[18:59] <stm__> if i change the uImage
[18:59] <persia> How did you construct the uImage?
[18:59] <stm__> then it just showing me uncompressing linux
[19:00] <stm__> i downloaded the kernel
[19:00] <stm__> then patched with adeos ipipe
[19:00] <stm__> and then compiled it
[19:02] <persia> Which kernel did you download?
[19:02] <stm__> <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:02] <persia> From where?
[19:03] <stm__> git://git.xenomai.org/ipipe-gch.git
[19:04] <persia> Are you certain that this kernel includes all the patches from the Ubuntu kernel?  My suspicion is that your new kernel isn't representing your storage in the same manner.
[19:05] <stm__> ok
[19:05] <stm__> then how can i  boot this kernel with ubuntu
[19:06] <persia> Firstly, you'd need to understand how that kernel represents the storage area into which you have placed the rootfs, and pass the correct argument.
[19:06] <persia> Secondly, you'd need to be sure that kernel had the appropriate support for the Ubuntu booting procedures, etc.
[19:09] <stm__> Is there any link for the ubuntu booting procedures on pandaboard
[19:11] <persia> No, but there's nothing remarkably special about the pandaboard in this case.
[19:11] <persia> For the least-failure-prone path, I'd recommend starting with the Ubuntu omap4 kernel sources, and then trying to apply patches to that.
[19:12] <persia> If that result doesn't work, you can be fairly sure that this is due to the patch.
[19:12] <persia> Conversely, if you select an arbitrary kernel, the source of possible failures can be large.
[19:17] <stm__> yes but here the constraint is the ipipe support for pandaboard . They did not released it as a patch . thez released it as patched kernel
[19:19] <persia> You referenced a git tree: you ought to be able to use git to determine which patches have been applied which are not applied in the Ubuntu tree.
[19:24] <demarchi> ndec: i'm trying to get my new blaze board to boot ubuntu
[19:24] <demarchi> ndec: but it's not even showing uboot
[19:25] <demarchi> ndec: i'm trying to boot from SD
[19:31] <rsalveti> demarchi: you need a special x-loader and u-boot for blaze
[19:32] <rsalveti> demarchi: for Maverick https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall
[19:32] <rsalveti> then to support Natty I believe you can just use the same x-loader/u-boot combination
[19:33] <rsalveti> just need to check if the kernel supports blaze, and as I don't have one I never tested
[19:33] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: did you ever tested natty on a blaze?
[19:33] <rsalveti> demarchi: do you know which ES rev do you have at your blaze?
[19:34] <rsalveti> we only support >= ES2.x
[19:38] <demarchi> rsalveti: it's ES2.2 GP
[19:39] <demarchi> rsalveti: what's the difference between EMU and GP?
[19:40] <rsalveti> demarchi: hm, quite new actually
[19:40] <rsalveti> demarchi: not sure, maybe you can find it at http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Blaze
[19:40] <rsalveti> or maybe robclark can help us :-)
[19:40] <rsalveti> otherwise ndec is your man
[19:42] <robclark> demarchi, an EMU is sort of half way between a HS and GP device..
[19:42] <robclark> HS has all the security and firewall stuff.. and is generally a pita to debug / use jtag, etc..
[19:42] <robclark> GP is wide open..
[19:43] <robclark> and EMU has all the security features but can be opened up.. basically intended for R&D..
[19:43] <robclark> (maybe I paraphrase a bit.. but that is the general idea)
[19:44] <demarchi> robclark: depending on my version, i need a different MLO, right?
[19:44] <robclark> yes.. or rather HS and (I think) EMU would need a signed bootloader
[19:45] <demarchi> robclark: i have a GP one
[19:45] <robclark> ok, then don't worry about EMU/HS stuff ;-)
[19:45] <demarchi> nice...
[19:45] <robclark> just use normal blaze/panda/whatever MLO.. depending on what board you are using
[19:46] <demarchi> maybe the problem was because i didn't rename the gp_MLO to MLO when copying to the sd card?
[19:46] <robclark> yeah.. that would be a problem
[19:55] <demarchi> robclark: it didn't work
[19:55] <demarchi> robclark: no output on console :-/
[19:56] <robclark> well..  what board, what bootloader?
[19:57] <robclark> fwiw, ubuntu itself isn't very chatty on the serial console.. but you should see *something* for the boot-loader..
[19:57] <demarchi> robclark: nothing... i don't see u-boot on this board
[19:58] <robclark> hmm.. I'm guessing the default ubuntu image has a panda boot-loader..
[19:59] <robclark> so I'm assuming you replaced that already w/ something for blaze?
[20:04] <demarchi> robclark: the guide for android has the uboot and mlo
[20:04] <demarchi> robclark: i tried those
[20:05] <robclark> where did those come from?  And are they actually for a GP device?
[20:05] <demarchi> robclark: that should work for ubuntu as well
[20:05] <robclark> I think most of the android folks are using either EMU or HS
[20:05] <demarchi> http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Android:_Working_with_pre-built_binaries
[20:05] <demarchi> there's a gp_MLO there
[20:06] <demarchi> and looking at this thread, i think it should work: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.omap/69
[20:06] <robclark> hmm..
[20:07] <robclark> well, the non-gp MLO name seems to imply it is for an es2.1..  so it's possible you need something newer..
[20:10] <demarchi> robclark: humn.... true
[20:10] <robclark> well, MLO and u-boot are easy enough to build..
[20:10] <demarchi> robclark: i'll just try to compile a newer version
[20:10] <robclark> it might be easier to just clone the git trees and build your own..
[20:11] <robclark> I think if you take whatever versions are used in 11.04 and just build em w/ sdp4430 config (or whatever it is called..)
[20:32] <GrueMaster> rsalveti: I think I tested Blaze back with Natty Beta 1
[20:33] <persia> Does it need anything than a different u-boot?  Could support be added to our u-boot tree?
[20:34] <rsalveti> persia: needs support at the x-loader and u-boot
[20:34] <rsalveti> but TI didn't actually pushed the support upstream
[20:34] <rsalveti> they are maintaining it at their own tree at omapzoom
[20:35] <GrueMaster> iirc, the mlo/u-boot for blaze from Maverick worked with natty as well.
[20:35] <GrueMaster> Kernel is good.
[20:35] <rsalveti> just need to test if it works with es2.2
[20:35] <GrueMaster> If I get time, I'll check it out, but it is currently low priority for me.
[20:35] <persia> rsalveti, Ah.  Is there something deeply incompatible, or is it just a matter of not having gotten around to it yet?
[20:35] <GrueMaster> I only have a 2.0
[20:36] <rsalveti> persia: lack of hardware for the upstream maintainers and missing someone to actually push the patches upstream
[20:36] <rsalveti> so we can only wait TI to do it :-)
[20:37] <persia> Well, or someone with compatible hardware and sufficient motivation, but yeah, that's most likely TI.
[20:37] <rsalveti> with pandas around, don't know why someone would use a blaze
[20:37] <rsalveti> I mean, from community
[20:38] <persia> It has a nice plastic box, and nice screens, and bamboos are hard to find?
[20:38] <robclark> persia, usually bootloader needs to be updated for a new ES..  if nothing else, to add a new Si revision id.. but usually there are different settings for voltage rails, different memory settings, etc, etc..
[20:38] <persia> There's lots of us that don't like dev boards as a form factor.
[20:38] <rsalveti> persia: it's expensive, hard to get and so on :-)
[20:38] <persia> robclark, Right.  I thought that was just compile-time choices.
[20:38] <robclark> so it is safe to assume that bootloader needs to be rev'd whenever there is a new ES
[20:38] <robclark> no, it is even runtime..
[20:38] <persia> Both x-loader and u-boot?
[20:39] <robclark> but a bootloader built before es2.2 would probably not have es2.2 support ;-)
[20:39] <robclark> because the patches didn't exist at the time
[20:39] <rsalveti> unless the default options match es2.2
[20:39] <GrueMaster> And at $369 for the upgrade, someone else can buy me an upgrade for testing.
[20:39] <rsalveti> but only with some luck :-)
[20:40] <persia> robclark, Right.  non-existence is the best reason for lack of support.  I guess I'm wondering about continuous integration: is it just the lack of available hardware that makes it hard to upstream this stuff?
[20:41] <robclark> not sure.. is there some patches missing (for an existing piece of Si) in upstream tree?
[20:41] <robclark> for xloader, it used to be a problem not having an upstream tree.. but now one exists..
[20:41] <rsalveti> question is, why TI is still not pushing newer modifications upstream
[20:41] <rsalveti> yeah, even for x-loader
[20:42] <robclark> oh..  I didn't realize..
[20:42] <rsalveti> the upstream tree is there, but TI is still pushing newer modifications only at omapzoom
[20:42] <robclark> I thought recent activity was mainly around 4460..
[20:42] <robclark> which isn't really available in the wild..
[20:43] <rsalveti> http://git.omapzoom.org/?p=repo/x-loader.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/omap4_dev
[20:43] <rsalveti> 4460 and es2.3
[20:43] <rsalveti> but at least es2.3 support would be good to have at the upstream x-loader already
[20:44] <rsalveti> and I believe we'll be seeing pandas with 4460 really soon
[20:44] <persia> And it rarely hurts to have some stuff in advance, even before GA, as there's often not budget to get it upstream once it is GA.
[20:44] <robclark> I suppose on the 2.3 stuff.. although I didn't even know there were es2.3 pandas..
[20:44] <robclark> there are already 4460 pandas.. but I think mainly (or possibly only) within TI..
[21:08] <demarchi> rsalveti: blaze has 2 frontal 5MP cameras and 1 in back of 12MP
[21:09] <demarchi> rsalveti: depending on what you are doing, it might answer your question
[21:11] <GrueMaster> demarchi: Must depend on the blaze you have.  Mine is missing all the cameras.
[21:12] <robclark> the camera sensors are swappable, fwiw..
[21:12] <robclark> probably if you didn't need the sensors, they sent you one with empty sockets ;-)
[21:12] <GrueMaster> Mine was a very early model.  ES1.
[21:13] <GrueMaster> I have the ES2 upgrade, but it is 2.0.


[07:00] <chihchun> Hi, trying to upload some packages to a new ppa, but did not receive any email, checked email, pgp keys already. can someone help me to check the upload logs? https://launchpad.net/~chihchun/+archive/ubuntu/xenial
[10:04] <cjwatson> chihchun: The error in our logs indicate that your GPG key has expired.
[10:04] <cjwatson> (At least the copy of it on our keyserver.)
[13:06] <legreffier> hi !
[13:08] <legreffier> i'm having quite some troubles with the launchpad. I setup an account a loooooooooong time ago (almost 10 years now) ! It was upon some ISP mailaddr. i didn't use anymore. The mail account stopped working a year ago (mails won't arrive there)
[13:10] <legreffier> so I didn't check it back, I missed my launchpad credentials, and even though , there was several more mails setup there, the password reset request would still land up there.
[13:10] <legreffier> but no more ! (bam) : and i thought no big deal, i didn't contrib much anymore since 4 or 5 years.
[13:12] <legreffier> but before that i did contrib a lot, and got the honor of an ubuntu membership, which included a bounce on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>... which i still use today, both personnally and professionally. And as i couldn't access my isp mailadress anymore, i couldn't click the "hey i'm still alive" button.
[13:13] <cjwatson> That sort of thing is actually part of SSO rather than directly part of Launchpad; you'll probably need help from #canonical-sysadmin
[13:13] <legreffier> so my membership (on launchpad group) expired, and i thought the mail redirection would survive that.
[13:13] <legreffier> well not, it permanently fails, so it got rm'd
[13:14] <cjwatson> Or possibly in fact https://forms.canonical.com/sso-support/
[13:15] <cjwatson> But #canonical-sysadmin should at least be able to get started somehow
[13:16] <legreffier> so i should both ask for a "manual" pw reset to canonical , and re-request being added to ubuntu-irc-member's launchpad ?
[13:17] <cjwatson> Yep.
[13:18] <legreffier> ok
[13:18] <cjwatson> Some kind of proof of account possession will likely be needed.  (It would be worrying if that were not the case.)
[13:19] <legreffier> cjwatson: i can access the other mailadresses setup on the launchpad
[13:19] <legreffier> and unlock the privkeys there
[13:19] <legreffier> (sadly , no secret question mayhem on launchpad :P)
[13:20] <legreffier> (i wonder if it's a good thing or not now)
[13:20] <cjwatson> I imagine that will help, but it will still need sysadmins rather than me :)
[13:27] <legreffier> yeah
[13:27] <legreffier> sent a tldr there
[20:30] <clivejo> any LP people here able to help with a LP git question?  Is there a way to recover a git repo?
[20:59] <cjwatson> clivejo: I'm finished for the day but please leave all the details you can; there are various options
[21:05] <bladernr`> Hey, anyone around?  Is there a way to push a git tree to my personal LP space (like pushing a bzr branch to +junk?)
[21:08] <tsimonq2> bladernr`: Hi, yes, you can. :)
[21:08] <nacc> bladernr`: afaik, yes
[21:08]  * tsimonq2 plays with it
[21:08] <tsimonq2> I've done it before...a
[21:08] <tsimonq2> s/...a/.../
[21:09] <nacc> bladernr`: jsut do lp:~OWNER/+git/REPO
[21:09] <nacc> bladernr`: git is a bit more flexible about it, i think
[21:09] <tsimonq2> ^
[21:09] <tsimonq2> <3 Git
[21:09] <bladernr`> nacc, ahhh, thanks.  code.launchpad.net/~USER/+git doesn't mention that, and that didn't even occur to me.
[21:10] <nacc> bladernr`: i think unlike bzr there aren't special repos under ~USER/+git, except that lp knows to link ~USER/ubuntu/+source to srcpkg names
[21:10] <nacc> I guess taht's not really an except, just a note :)
[21:12] <bladernr`> yeah... and that's fine.  I was just trying launchpad.net/~USER/treename but getting the "Project doesn't exist" message.  works now, though. Thanks for the info nacc and tsimonq2
[21:12] <tsimonq2> No problem, have a nice rest of your day. :)
[21:13] <nacc> bladernr`: np, enjoy!


[18:27] <skeer> Howdy! I've been searching for some info regarding dns/nameservers in netplan. Hopefully this is a right place
[18:29] <skeer> A couple things that I have not been able to read in official print is: address order.. are the nameserver addresses specified used in order top down? Is a daemon bounce required before it will attempt a lookup against an address that's failed previously? And how do lookups work if only a search domain is specified and your lookup domain does not match?


[05:24] <Stinkydave> Has anyone set up a print server for a mac lab that authenticates to active directory????
[08:09] <asw> found CD images here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[10:03] <Drac[Server] > Going offline temporarily to install a hub.


[12:30] <omha> im getting this http://pastebin.ca/594400
[12:30] <omha> what is the reason for it?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> omha: ignore it
[12:32] <omha> it's crashing kiba-dock
[12:33] <omha> http://pastebin.ca/594403
[12:33] <gnomefreak> omha: yes its crashing more than that, kiba-dock isnt supported so ther eisnt a thing you can do about it except rebuild it with fixing it
[12:33] <gnomefreak> omha: it happens on alot of things
[12:33] <omha> yea i been noticing that
[12:33] <omha> but why?
[12:34] <omha> compiled against a old version or something?
[02:03] <ShackJack> HI all - am upgrading to Gutsy and was prompted about gnome/defaults.list config file.. Chose D to see differences, then Ctrl-Z to exit... How can I resume the upgrade, bg doesn't work - just gives [1] + sudo aptitude upgrade & (?)
[02:05] <RAOF> fg
[02:05] <RAOF> (Should bring aptitude back into the foreground, where you'll be able to interact with it)
[02:06] <ShackJack> RAOF: Thanks - seems to work...
[02:14] <ShackJack> Darn all those "foreign" fonts - wish they weren't part of the ubuntu-desktop meta package :(
[02:33] <jimp> As of a few weeks ago gutsy didn't boot on the PS3.  Anyone know if that's fixed in tribe 2?
[02:40] <ToHellWithGA> lol jimp
[02:40] <ToHellWithGA> that's really cool, what processor does the PS3 use?
[02:41] <RAOF> Cell.  Which is a (pretty slow) PowerPC processor + some coprocessors, essentially
[02:41] <RAOF> Which is why the PowerPC version of Ubuntu can run on it :)
[02:41] <jimp> 3.2ghz isn't too slow in my book, but maybe i'm old.
[02:42] <RAOF> jimp: Yeah, but it doesn't do much per cpu-cycle
[02:43] <RAOF> (It's entirely possible to make a 10GHz processor which performs much, much worse than a current 2.0 GHz Core 2)
[02:44] <RAOF> (one of) The reason(s) it can have such a high clockspeed is that it doesn't do a whole lot of stuff that regular CPUs do to speed up most code :)
[02:44] <jimp> The PPU does.  The SPUs don't.
[02:44] <jimp> But anyway, whatever, I take it nobody knows the current state of ubuntu's ps3 port.  I'll just give it a try.
[02:44] <RAOF> The PPU (which is the PowerPC chip) still doesn't have out-of-order execution, etc.  It's much simpler than a conventional CPU.
[02:45] <RAOF> So stuff which is explicitly written for Cell can get trememndous performance, but stuff that isn't won't be able to use much of it's power :)
[02:46] <jimp> I'm writing code explicitly for cell, so that doesn't bother me.
[02:46] <RAOF> Indeed.  It's tremendously fast if you can use it properly :)
[03:02] <jimp> Nope, still busted.  I wish my bug report about this hadn't just been closed, so people could actually know when it's fixed.
[03:03] <RAOF> Which bug report?
[03:04] <jimp> bug #120295
[03:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120295 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Gusty livecd fails to boot on PS3" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120295
[03:05] <DanaG> odd: disabling 'nv' under restricted-modules does NOT disable nvidia-new.
[03:06] <wfarr> DanaG, aren't they completely different drivers? o_O
[03:06] <wfarr> I thought nv was the opensource Nvidia driver, and nvidia is the proprietary one
[03:06] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/105756
[03:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 105756 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 "DISABLED_MODULES="nv" doesn't stop nvidia_new.ko from loading" [Undecided,New]
[03:11] <DanaG> I actually edited restricted-manager myself.
[03:11] <DanaG> I did that even before I knew about that bug report.
[03:29] <ShackJack> Hi Ubuntites -- I'm having difficulty getting XGL to run on Gutsy... XSession report, something like "(process:7027): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid." and says I must create a helper program. Could anyone offer a tip on how to start XGL on Gutsy? (can pastebin current session script if needed)
[03:29] <RAOF> That's a warning, not the error.
[03:29] <RAOF> wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl still works.
[03:33] <ShackJack> RAOF: This is what I have, essentially (except I sleep 5 b4 staring dbus-launch)... (Method A)
[03:33] <RAOF> ShackJack: So, do you have the "dbus-x11" package installed?
[03:34] <ShackJack> No, doesn't seem to be...
[03:34] <RAOF> Install that, and it'll work.
[03:34] <ShackJack> K- great thanks --- didn't see any other DBUS errors...
[03:35] <ShackJack> RAOF: Just curious - is this a new package for Gutsy?
[03:44] <Praxx> Guys does anyone know if " the gibbon" supports realtek high def audio codec? or would I have to wait for Gibbon+1
[03:45] <ShackJack> Hi all - I managed to start up XGL in Gutsy, but when I try to enable Desktop Effects, returns error "failed to execute child process - gtk-window-decorator (no such file/directory)... Any thoughts on what package I might be missing (-f install, etc reveals no missing dependencies)?
[03:46] <Praxx> I have been waiting since Dapper and have not found help. Too poor to buy another laptop and too stubborn to move to xp again
[03:47] <RAOF> Praxx: Where's the bug report?
[03:47] <RAOF> ShackJack: Yes, it's new for Gutsy.  dbus-launch was split out of the main dbus packages, and into dbus-x11
[03:52] <Praxx> RAOF, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/57065
[03:52] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 57065 in Ubuntu "No sound with nVidia High Definition Audio card (dup-of: 117246)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[03:52] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 117246 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Not work Audio device: "nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)"" [Medium,Confirmed]
[03:53] <Praxx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/117246
[03:54] <thully> hi - is anyone having problems suspending to RAM using g-p-m?  In the latest gutsy, it doesn't work for me - though  sudo pmi action sleep works
[03:55] <RAOF> Praxx: Hm, neither of those bugs seem particularly well filed.  However, you might want to try Gutsy and see.
[03:56] <Praxx> RAOF, how does one make sure that the proper info is provided and the request is heard. There many threads filled with this issue and I wish I knew how to proceed
[03:56] <RAOF> Praxx:     *
[03:57] <RAOF> Praxx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems is a good start.  You'll want to be running Gutsy, too (at least a LiveCD)
[03:58] <RAOF> Also, threads on ubuntuforums really aren't very useful in fixing bugs.  If it's not on Launchpad, it doesn't exist ;).
[03:58] <Praxx> :O
[03:58] <Praxx> ok. Fair enuff. Atleast now i know where to start
[03:58] <Praxx> thanks mate
[03:58] <RAOF> It's also probably an upstream bug in ALSA.
[03:59] <Praxx> does that make it more complicated?
[03:59] <Praxx> shud i file a bug with them too?
[03:59] <RAOF> No, but it means that you might also want to check out the ALSA bugtracker.
[03:59] <RAOF> The more work you do, the more likely the bug is to be fixed :)
[04:00] <Praxx> ok. If this is the price I have to pay for freedom... I am fine with it.
[04:00] <Praxx> thanks mate
[04:01] <Praxx> Gibbon is my friend now :D
[04:01] <Praxx> one question: I know it is kinda late but if proper info i provided .. is there a remote change that someone might look into this before gibbon is released
[04:01] <Praxx> ?
[04:02] <RAOF> Oh, a pretty good one.
[04:02] <RAOF> But it's kinda dependent on you (or another tester) doing some of the work :)
[04:02] <Praxx> ooh
[04:02] <Praxx> well.. I will start with a bug report. then lets see.
[04:02] <Praxx> thanks mate
[04:03] <Praxx> salut!
[04:03] <RAOF> NP
[04:14] <thully> I'm having problems with gnome-power-manager in Gutsy - if I try to suspend my MacBook nothing happens.  Using the pmi command works fine.  Anyone have any idea on what is wrong here?
[04:16] <RAOF> thully: Is there a bug filed on launchpad?  You might want to check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[04:17] <thully> OK - I'll check that.  I do know that it's the userland software at fault, though - as I can suspend with pmi action sleep
[04:20] <RAOF> Hm.  Well, maybe just check out the bugs on gnome-power-manager then.  If there isn't one already, file one.
[04:24] <thully> OK - I guess I'll do that
[04:40] <ToHellWithGA> .me leaves
[04:47] <cables> The Tribe 2 link on ubuntu.com/testing isn't working, it's going to an admin.ubuntu.com site and asking for a password.
[04:48] <thully> cables: try cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-2
[04:48] <cables> thully, thanks
[04:56] <Hobbsee> cables: erk
[04:56] <Hobbsee> cables: now, i'm sure i shouldnt SMS the person responsible yet, as its' 5am
[04:57] <cables> Hobbsee, it's weird, there was a similar problem w/ Tribe 1
[04:57] <cables> or at least I remember there being one...
[04:57] <Hobbsee> cables: yeah...just seen that.
[05:17] <hansin321> Has Tribe 2 been officially released?  Thanks.
[05:17] <Hobbsee> hansin321: yes
[05:17] <hansin321> Hobbsee: Thanks, time to upgrade...
[05:18] <Hobbsee> good luck!
[05:29] <knix> So where are these ff3 packages? :P
[05:31] <Hobbsee> in gutsy
[05:31] <Hobbsee> firefox-granparadiso
[05:32] <knix> ah, I don't know how I missed that, haha
[05:32] <knix> thanks =)
[06:31] <graft> hiya - whenever i try to run aumix it says:  aumix:  SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK
[06:31] <graft> and doesn't start
[06:31] <graft> any idea what's up?
[06:33] <graft> that's it
[06:34] <graft> it doesn't look like an error to me, either, but that's what i got
[06:34] <RAOF> Mmm, file a bug(tm)?
[06:34] <graft> yargh
[06:39] <graft> hrm... any particular reason there are localization files for aumix in 18 languages but not english?
[06:41] <RAOF> :)
[06:43] <graft> damnit... this bug is so annoying
[07:14] <crackerbox> hey guys
[07:14] <crackerbox> i think i need words of wisdom from a pro...
[07:15] <crackerbox> anyone familure with reconfiguring casper for use with a custom Live environment?
[07:43] <siimo> hi any gutsy users here?
[07:43] <Hobbsee> yes
[07:43] <Hobbsee> !ask
[07:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:43] <siimo> i am running it and the Xorg seems to freeze randomly requring a hard reset with holding power button
[07:43] <siimo> any ideas about this?
[07:43] <crackerbox> anyone familure with reconfiguring casper for use with a custom Live environment?
[07:44] <siimo> tried both nv and nvidia drivers by the way
[07:44] <Hobbsee> crackerbox: download the casper source and have a look
[07:44] <Hobbsee> siimo: i wonder if it happens with the new xorg
[07:45] <siimo> Hobbsee: i am dist-upgraded from 18 hrs ago
[07:45] <Hobbsee> not sure if the new xorg stuff is even loaded yet.  the mesa stuff is
[07:45] <Hobbsee> anything interesting in syslog, the usual logs?
[07:46] <siimo> no i am not mesa  patched as i se those updates now
[07:46] <crackerbox> hobbsee: casper's hooks are where i could allow my custom LiveCD to automatically use the propriatary driver that i installed while i was chroot'ed into my squashFS?
[07:47] <Hobbsee> crackerbox: i'm not sure.  i've only touched casper once
[07:47] <siimo> not that i  can see Hobbsee
[07:48] <Hobbsee> siimo: weird.
[07:48] <siimo> maybe my chipset has bugs in kernel 2.6.22 :| but i recompiled 2.6.21 and still same issue so it isnt kernel related
[07:53] <siimo> any suggestions dude
[07:54] <Hobbsee> nope
[07:56] <siimo> i guess just keep dist upgrading and looking for fix
[07:59] <siimo> @ tride 2.. i thought i'd be more stable than random X lockups :P
[08:00] <Tm_T> isn't stable = boring
[08:01] <siimo> yeah but hard reset every 10 mins due to lockup = annoying
[08:02] <Hobbsee> siimo: do you have compiz enabled?
[08:02] <Hobbsee> these releases arent stable.  they're snapshots
[08:03] <siimo> Hobbsee: no compiz just plain old XFCE envrionment
[08:03] <Hobbsee> ah
[08:05] <siimo> im also getting this error upon chrooting into the ubuntu id: cannot find name for group ID 11
[08:21] <siimo__> Hobbsee: i ran the test again.. its strange X stops after exactly 5 mins from reboot every time
[08:21] <Hobbsee> that's weird
[08:21] <siimo__> Jun 29 18:17:01 Sempron /USR/SBIN/CRON[3105] : (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[08:21] <siimo__> that was in my syslog when it died
[08:22] <Hobbsee> is there anything interesting running in cron?
[08:22] <siimo__> only built in stuff by ubuntu i havent touched cron yet
[08:23] <siimo__> i will try turning cron off
[08:54] <DanaG> argh-ness: my terminals are blank when I use vga=anything -- still!
[08:55] <Hobbsee> erk.
[08:55] <Hobbsee> found out why yet?
[08:57] <DanaG> nope.
[08:57] <DanaG> I think some time I'll try compiling a custom kernel and messing with the config.
[08:57] <DanaG> Is there an easy way to pull a kernel tree with all ubuntu patches already installed?
[08:58] <DanaG> Oh yeah, another thing: suspend broke for me.  Even if I stop gdm and unload nvidia, my system will freeze on resume.
[09:00] <cyphase> what does everyone think about including an option to install the GtkGLExt Python bindings from within the Chess program? maybe only if you're an administrator
[09:05] <DanaG> Well, at the very least, it should give a package name.
[09:05] <DanaG> I am pretty savvy, yet I still didn't know what to look for.
[09:06] <DanaG> libgtkgl-python?
[09:06] <DanaG> It turned out to be python-something-or-other -- python is in front.
[09:07] <DanaG> Argh, how can I build iwlwifi?
[09:08] <DanaG> Linux-headers doesn't have everything iwlwifi needs -- but I really don't want to have to install the full source.
[09:15] <cyphase> isn't rhythmbox supposed to auto-install codecs like totem does?
[09:16] <DanaG> I think I'll just end up trying my own kernel some time.
[09:17] <Hobbsee> cyphase: grab ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:18] <cyphase> Hobbsee: i already have all my codecs installed..
[09:18] <Hobbsee> ah right
[09:18] <Hobbsee> no idea
[09:18] <cyphase> Hobbsee: i'm just playing with tribe 2, and i thought that even in feisty, rhythmbox was supposed to be able to auto-install codecs like totem
[09:20] <Hobbsee> ahh.  no idea, i dotn run gnome
[09:27] <dufrp> just installed kubuntu gutsy (32 bits), using pppoeconf, Internet seems to work fine, but konqueror always report 'Could not connect to host ...', known issue?
[09:31] <dufrp> well, just installed firefox and it works, should be able to find answer myself now
[09:32] <kjw75> is gutsy fairly stable or is it just a mess to run?
[09:33] <cyphase> ehh.. fairly stable
[09:33] <cyphase> for an early alpha release
[09:33] <Hobbsee> kjw75: dont run it on production machiens, and we're about to go thru another X transition
[09:33] <T-Connect> Anyone having a problem with NTFS?
[09:34] <kjw75> ok, I can't get my wireless laptop card to work in feisty, but read a post that said the gutsy kernel works with it, so am wondering whether I should nuke feisty and go for gutsy
[09:34] <kjw75> what you mean by X transition?
[09:34] <Hobbsee> kjw75: other things break.  including network manager
[09:34] <Hobbsee> kjw75: newer version of X and libs.
[09:35] <T-Connect> nfts-3g version 1:1.328-1 seem screwup here. I download it from Synaptic Package Manager. It won't let me unmount
[09:35] <kjw75> ok, any way to use the gutsy kernel with feisty, I read that someone got their wireless working by backporting the gutsy kernel to feisty, but I'm not really sure what that means
[09:35] <T-Connect> I get a message with red dot.
[09:36] <Hobbsee> T-Connect: i suggest you contact the makers of ntfs-3g
[09:37] <T-Connect> So yu know about that problem?
[09:37] <Hobbsee> no
[09:37] <Hobbsee> i dont use ntfs-3g
[09:37] <T-Connect> Ok
[09:38] <T-Connect> Anything cool on Gutsy?
[09:39] <kjw75> any ideas on my last question, I'm starting to fall asleep here, so if not, I will go to bed :)
[09:40] <Hobbsee> compiz stuff, etc.
[09:40] <Hobbsee> kjw75: you dont want to do it.
[09:40] <Hobbsee> kjw75: you have to recompile the kernel for feisty, etc
[09:40] <kjw75> ok, thanks :)
[09:41] <kjw75> well g'night all and thanks for the help!
[10:56] <b9> hi all. Just a quick question - what is the cleanest way to upgrade to gutsy from fesity? (without re-installing from cd that is...)
[10:57] <Hobbsee> dist upgrade...
[10:58] <b9> just changes my sources to gutsy and thenupgrade?
[10:59] <Hobbsee> ys
[10:59] <Hobbsee> *yes
[10:59] <b9> cheers
[11:27] <siimo> Hi i install Tribe2 and around about ~5 mins into starting it up the X session just locks up really bad  and needs to be rebooted
[11:27] <siimo> any ideas for fixing?
[12:24] <sky_walkie> hi there , any experience with ubuntu gutsy + vmware ? I can't even boot to GUI to start the installation, any way how to disable compiz adding some boot aprms ??
[12:48] <napsy_> Will gutsy have x.org 7.3?
[12:53] <alberto> hi
[12:53] <gnomefreak> napsy_: yes
[12:53] <alberto> if I want to upgrade to feisty
[12:53] <napsy_> ok
[12:54] <gnomefreak> alberto: feisty support is in #ubuntu
[12:54] <alberto> changing feisty with gutsy in /etc/apt/sources-lit and dist-upgrade
[12:54] <alberto> is enought?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> oh
[12:54] <gnomefreak> alberto: you really should wait
[12:54] <alberto> wait why?
[12:54] <Amaranth> gksudo 'update-manager -c -d'
[12:54] <gnomefreak> alberto: why becasue its no where near stable
[12:54] <alberto> I did update-manager d and it only upgrade my feisty system
[12:55] <alberto> gnomefreak: I dont care, I am debian user since potato, and using sid for years
[12:55] <alberto> gnomefreak: I dont care about stable or not
[12:55] <alberto> hehe
[12:55] <alberto> I would like to take a look to gutsy just that
[12:55] <crdlb> gutsy is really nothing like sid
[12:56] <gnomefreak> sid == always unstable gutsy == will be stable in 4 months
[12:56] <alberto> I now, so what?
[12:56] <alberto> I want to report bugs
[12:56] <alberto> and use gutsy
[12:57] <alberto> why you are trying me to stop that?
[12:57] <alberto> I dont understand
[12:57] <gnomefreak> alberto: read the topic
[12:58] <alberto> I told you, I were using sid for years
[12:58] <alberto> so, dont you think I am familiarized with dpkg?
[12:58] <alberto> xD
[12:59] <gnomefreak> alberto: see your question above to answer that question but please feel free to upgrade all you want, but let it be known alot of users cant boot to gutsy
[12:59] <alberto> cant boot?
[12:59] <alberto> thats absurd
[12:59] <alberto> xD
[01:00] <gnomefreak> alberto: no its not since there are kernel issues
[01:00] <gnomefreak> alberto: i think IMHO you need to stick with stable since you think that it will always boot and that its aburd that people cant
[01:00] <alberto> gnomefreak: are you using gutsy?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> alberto: yes i have to
[01:01] <alberto> Let me try
[01:01] <alberto> ok, and I WANT TO
[01:01] <alberto> ok?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> alberto: i said do as you wish
[01:01] <gnomefreak> i was warning you
[01:01] <alberto> :-)
[01:01] <alberto> dont care for me
[01:01] <alberto> indeed if there are problems, I can help
[01:02] <alberto> what about reporting bugs and helping to the dev community?
[01:02] <alberto> I am really getting surprised about what you wrote
[01:02] <alberto> dont you want people to help? ...
[01:03] <gnomefreak> alberto: its not ready for testing outside of devel. but do as you wish
[01:03] <gnomefreak> beta == ready for wider testing
[01:03] <alberto> well, I told I was using sid for YEARS
[01:03] <alberto> what is the problem?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> alberto: btw you know dpkg you should know how to upgrade. again sid is nothing like gutsy sid is stable compared to gutsy
[01:04] <alberto> in sid I found dependencies problems for years, and I fixed it by my own, and helped debian people
[01:04] <gnomefreak> alberto: but go ahead upgrade using command Amaranth gave you
[01:04] <alberto> I just wanted to do the same here
[01:04] <alberto> sid is not testint
[01:04] <alberto> is UNSTABLE
[01:04] <alberto> indeed I used experimental too
[01:04] <gnomefreak> alberto: i didnt say sid was testing
[01:04] <alberto> man.. I only want to help you
[01:05] <alberto> so stop advertising me
[01:05] <alberto> I know what kind of problems I'll find
[01:06] <Amaranth> hehe, yeah
[01:06] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: ;) we know
[01:06] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: it doesnt run too badly, if hte user is actually going to file bugs
[01:06] <Hobbsee> excluding compiz, maybe
[01:06] <alberto> yes, I used to change /etc/apt/sources.list and dist-upgrade just
[01:06] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: hey!
[01:06] <Hobbsee> hiya Amaranth
[01:06] <Amaranth> compiz is fine :)
[01:07] <alberto> what is the different with the upgrade manager?
[01:07] <Hobbsee> except when it hides my windows, and i can never find how ot get them back.
[01:07] <gnomefreak> alberto: you didnt read what Amaranth gave you
[01:07] <alberto> yes, I did
[01:07] <gnomefreak> alberto: its safer
[01:07] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: don't start compiz with minimized windows
[01:07] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: no, these are windows that i've minimised while in compiz
[01:07] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: i haven't seen that happen since 0.3.6
[01:08] <Amaranth> then again you're probably talking about KDE apps
[01:08] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: no, i was running the tribe 2 ubuntu live cd
[01:08] <Hobbsee> seeing as compiz-kde doesnt exist much yet
[01:08] <Amaranth> interesting
[01:08] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: what do you mean?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: it doesnt work :)
[01:08] <Amaranth> what doesn't work?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: crashes during log in when you go to change to it you lose boarders still
[01:09] <Amaranth> you can't just complain, i need reproducible problems with lots of details, you know better :)
[01:09] <Amaranth> oh, that
[01:09] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: i have bug reports on all of them and mvo knows of them
[01:09] <Amaranth> that was a bug in expo fixed before tribe-2
[01:10] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: i can fix it with xorg.conf but i shouldnt have to if its gonna be default since xorg.conf is leaving anyway
[01:10] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: mvo doesn't know how compiz works ;)
[01:10] <Amaranth> what change to xorg.conf did you make
[01:10] <Amaranth> dude you're being annoying vague
[01:10] <gnomefreak> he seems to be working on it enough (unless hes just packaging)
[01:11] <alberto> update-manager seems to download something that will guide me around the upgrading prcess but then when download is finished, I can see any app :-)
[01:11] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: i havent i gave up on compiz due to another gnome-appearance issue
[01:11] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: i went through this for 2 days in devel and -bugs
[01:11] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: i give up on you
[01:11] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:11] <Amaranth> you are no longer allowed to complain
[01:12] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: im not
[01:12] <gnomefreak> i said it shouldnt be default until these items are fixed
[01:13] <alberto> what shouldnt be default?
[01:14] <Hobbsee> alberto: compiz
[01:19] <gnomefreak> it should be default but IMHO its too close to merge for a seemless upgrade. but thats opinion
[01:20] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:20] <Amaranth> too close to merge?
[01:21] <Amaranth> what merge?
[02:18] <mikkael> someone here using kubuntu gutsy ?
[02:19] <mikkael> if you have spare 2 mins: can you confirm this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-tweak/+bug/123036
[02:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 123036 in kde-tweak "no menu entry or kcontrol module for tweak" [Undecided,New]
[03:14] <ShackJack> Hi Gibbons!  I'm running GG with XGL/fglrx (woe is me!). I have XGL running but when I go to Appearance and check Desktop Effects, the decorations blink and I get a dialog simply saying "Desktop effects could not be enabled"... Starting appearance prefs from C/L indicates it might have a problem with texture_from_pixmap not being available... ANy suggestions?
[03:15] <ShackJack> (XGL/Compiz working on prior Feisty install)
[03:16] <Pici> Aha!
[03:16] <Pici> Hi xgl/fglrx buddy.
[03:17] <Pici> I too have the same issue, I kinda came up with a workaround.
[03:17] <ShackJack> Pici: Oooh I love workarounds - lets hear it :)
[03:17] <ShackJack> Workarounds, FTW!!!
[03:19] <Pici> I setup a script that runs when I login to gnome that contains the following line:
[03:19] <Pici> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa compiz.real --ignore-desktop-hints --sm-disable --replace ccp &
[03:19] <Pici> The compiz wrapper script doesnt appear to handle xgl too well.
[03:20] <ShackJack> Ahh... so make script and add to sessions - I remember having to do that with XGL in the past but it became no longer necessary...
[03:20] <ShackJack> Pici: Thank's a bunch - will try it out!
[03:22] <ShackJack> Pici: THat all on one line or newline where compiz.real... starts?
[03:22] <Pici> One line
[03:22] <ShackJack> Ah O.K. trying now...
[03:29] <ShackJack> Pici: Alas that did not work for me... Made script, put in /usr/bin, chmodded and added to Startup proggies. First attempt no deco, second metacity and same results on gnome-appearance...
[03:29] <Pici> hmm
[03:30] <ShackJack> Pici: I cut n' pasted what you sent... It still compains about texture_from_pixmap... Friggin' fglrx!!!
[03:31] <ShackJack> XGL definately seems to be running as it should, I can pastebin my XGL startup if it's helpful...
[03:31] <Pici> hmm
[03:32] <Pici> I'll upload my configs...
[03:33] <ShackJack> Pici: Which card you running (out of curiosity)?
[03:34] <ShackJack> Well, Gutsy is running really great otherwise at this early stage... no errors to report and upgrade to Fiesty was smooth - I reinstalled the ubuntu-desktop meta package before installing....
[03:37] <Pici> ShackJack: ATI x1400 (its a laptop)
[03:37] <Pici> http://nullcortex.com/code/compiz/
[03:38] <Pici> compiz2 is just something I was playing with, seeing if I could fix the wraper script
[03:38] <ShackJack> Pici: ATI X1400 - Me too!
[03:38] <Pici> :)
[03:38] <Pici> compiz2 might work, I cant remember if I fixed it or not properly
[03:39] <ShackJack> Pici: Yeah, it would be cool if us poor fglrx'ers weren't left out in the cold (either by adjust gutsy or fixing the fglrx driver to support AIGLX)
[03:39] <Pici> Everything works except for the Cube Reflect compiz plugin, I'm not sure whats wrong with that yet though.
[03:41] <ShackJack> Pici: My cube reflect is busted too, but on my Feisty/Nvidia desktop...
[03:41] <Pici> oh, good
[03:41] <ShackJack> Pici: (so you're not crazy ;))... Your startxgl is pretty much exactly like mine...
[03:42] <Pici> I'm just glad I found someone else who has the same problems as I
[03:42] <ShackJack> Pici: I did have a sleep 5 after the DISPLAY, but I guess you found you don't need that anymore?
[03:42] <Pici> ShackJack: I saw two examples that had the same code except for that, I didnt think taking it out would affect anything
[03:42] <Pici> and it didnt
[03:46] <ShackJack> Pici: I see you have two "Device" sections in your Xorg for the card?
[03:49] <Pici> ShackJack: I'm not sure why its like that.  The only thing I can think of is vga out.
[03:49] <Pici> I didnt want to play with it once it started working.
[03:54] <ShackJack> Pici: Now I'm guessing once you had the compiz script n place, you didn't actually have to go to desktop effects to start it...
[04:02] <Pici> ShackJack: Yeah, I havent touched that.
[04:36] <ShackJack> Pici: Hi - just reporting back, not having any luck starting my XGL/fglrx with Compiz... If anyone knows a way to start Compiz/XGL (I have XGL loading, it seems) with Gutsy, I would appreciate any guidance you can offer...
[04:48] <sayers> Hello, I am getting an error with xorg saying it can't find any screens.
[04:56] <lamalex> any reported issues with the installer on the tribe 2 cd?
[04:58] <Hobbsee> lamalex: yes.  mostly on the "known issues" page, which was a) on the release announcement, and b) on the links about what's new
[05:03] <lamalex> known issues page where? Did not see a link on the release announcement
[05:09] <Eruantalon> join #kernel
[05:10] <Hobbsee> lamalex: what was the issue?
[05:12] <lamalex> installer locks up when starting to format partition
[05:12] <slimz> hey guys when i open a terminal window on a newly install gutsy, it shows this ; http://pastebin.ca/595476
[05:13] <lamalex> I click the 'format' box or set a mount point of / which then checks the format box for me, and the gui crashes
[05:13] <lamalex> only way out is to xkil it
[05:14] <lamalex> i'm sure kill -9 in terminal would work to but youget the idea
[05:16] <Hobbsee> lamalex: interesting...i'd report that, and attach the relevant ubiquity logs
[05:16] <lamalex> will do, that's why I was checking first to see if you had heard anything
[05:18] <Hobbsee> we know about the manual partitioning being broken (partitioner takes forever to come up)
[05:18] <Hobbsee> was that with compiz or metacity?
[05:19] <lamalex> yah i just tried that
[05:19] <lamalex> er should say, am trying that
[05:19] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:21] <lamalex> appears to
[05:21] <lamalex> where does ubiquity keeps its logs, all I see is version
[05:26] <lamalex> hmm on second try it does not, at least not yet
[05:27] <Hobbsee> lamalex: does not what?  does not crash?
[05:27] <lamalex> does not crash when run as root
[05:28] <Hobbsee> you're running as root anyway
[05:29] <lamalex> when run with sudo
[05:29] <Hobbsee> lamalex: okay, can you file a bug about that, attach the logs as shown in https://launchpad.net/bugs/122645 and say that it's only reproducible with gksudo, not sudo?
[05:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122645 in ubiquity "manual partitioning hangs indefinitely" [High,Confirmed]
[05:30] <Dannilion> what's the current recommended way of getting the nvidia driver?
[05:30] <lamalex> thanks hobbsee :)
[05:31] <Hobbsee> lamalex: i think you'll find that if you run "gksudo ubiquity" you'll find it crashes again.  if you could try, and mention the results on the bug, that would be great
[05:31] <lamalex> yes, I tried that, thats when I said "appears to" but then I tried with sudo
[05:31] <lamalex> and I will file a detailed report, no worries
[05:32] <lamalex> I piped the installer output of both to a file so I'll look through for anything interesting
[05:44] <Hobbsee> lamalex: i *think* i'ts a bug in gksudo vs sudo - that's what that manual partiton hanging indefinetly came back to, on my system
[05:44] <lamalex> didn't they make some changes to sudo?
[05:45] <lamalex> I thought I read that they were making changes to sudo that could break gksudo
[06:02] <Hobbsee> no idea.  i dont run gnome
[06:06] <lamalex> gotcha
[06:11] <omha> lamalex, now sudo prints [sudo]  password for user:
[06:12] <lamalex> yeah
[06:12] <omha> it's nice
[06:12] <lamalex> but that didn't break gksudo before, i think they changed something else
[06:22] <masquerade> anyone had any trouble with gutsy wanting to randomly suspend on laptops in the past few days?
[06:23] <omha> nope
[06:23] <lamalex> nope
[07:49] <PriceChild> uuuu firefox 3 alpha is in universe... *downloads*
[07:50] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: yep
[07:50] <gnomefreak> it might be removed before release but its there during alphas
[07:50] <lamalex> <3bloat
[07:51] <PriceChild> *tries to see something new*
[07:51] <PriceChild> ah started old firefox by mistake then
[07:51] <gnomefreak> maybe have that uploaded monday
[07:51] <lamalex> very nic
[07:51] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: close firefox first
[07:51] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, hehe yeah
[07:51] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:51] <PriceChild> hmm still hasn't loaded....
[07:53] <PriceChild> it still looks like old firefox...
[07:53] <lamalex> is it supposed to look drastically different?
[07:53] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: does it say granparadiso on top?
[07:53] <gnomefreak> lamalex: no
[07:53] <PriceChild> right its definitely gran paradiso...
[07:53] <lamalex> I didn't think so, I was playing with it earlier today a little bit
[07:54] <PriceChild> I really, REALLY don't see anything new...
[07:54] <PriceChild> whatsoever...
[07:54] <lamalex> is it faster?
[07:54] <PriceChild> *mvs .firefox and restarts*
[07:55] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: its all engine related atm other than airbag but we didnt build for airbag
[07:55] <lamalex> gnomefreak: are you a mozilla dev as well as fedora?
[07:55] <PriceChild> airbag?
[07:55] <gnomefreak> lamalex: no im a ubuntu-mozilla devel atm
[07:55] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: mozillas crash reoprting tool
[07:55] <lamalex> rgr
[07:56] <PriceChild> ahh
[07:58] <gnomefreak> brb while i wait for FTB again
[08:00] <PriceChild> Why does it deserve a 2.0 -> 3.0 bump though...
[08:02] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: new engine
[08:02] <PriceChild> meh
[08:02] <gnomefreak> iirc its on 1.9 not 1.8.3
[08:02] <PriceChild> its not new though is it?
[08:03] <PriceChild> isn't it just a big improvement over old?
[08:04] <gnomefreak> they say it is i havent looked at it since 2.0 beta*
[08:12] <corevette> is compiz-fusion still called desktop effects?
[08:21] <lamalex> corevette: it is
[08:21] <lamalex> but the location moved
[08:21] <lamalex> it's inside appearence
[08:46] <r00tintheb0x> /me is too elite.
[09:56] <Praxx> guys. The latest release of gutsy is hanging once i try to partition the hd. i cannot find any bugs on it. How can i make sure this is not an isolated issue be4 filing a report
[09:57] <Dannilion> I read earlier today in here that others are having the same problem
[09:58] <Praxx> ok
[09:58] <Praxx> then how to I track this or report this
[09:58] <Praxx> i cant find much on launchpad
[09:58] <Dannilion> that bit I don't know :)
[10:16] <DanaG> I still don't get why S3 suspend suddenly stopped working with 2.6.22.
[10:19] <lucasvo> uhm in which folder are the gnome-panel settings stored?
[10:20] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with vnc?  I think I found a bug, but not sure... seems the new vncviewer can't allow vnc servers that run with RDP version 3.3 to connect to a vncviewer -listen which is expecting version 3.8
[10:24] <pwnguin> DanaG: maybe it overwrote some settings in the acpi-support config file without asking you?
[10:24] <DanaG> If I boot the Feisty kernel, suspend works.
[10:24] <DanaG> It also may be related to the "all TTYs are blank if I use vga=anything" bug.
[10:30] <bur[n] er> lucasvo: .gconf<something>  dig through and you'll find it... you sould also use gconf-editor
[10:31] <bur[n] er> DanaG: whew, I thought that vga thing was just me... stupid b00gers
[10:31] <Skiessi> where I can report broken things in gutsy?
[10:32] <pwnguin> launchpad would be a good place ;)
[10:47] <DanaG> How can I get gnome-screensaver to run things niced?
[10:52] <Skiessi> dunno...I think gnome-screensaver sucks because of it's missing the option to configure the screensavers :P
[10:55] <DanaG> Same here.
[10:56] <DanaG> Oh, and for some reason, my login doesn't start a window manager.
[10:56] <h3sp4wn> is CFS in the gutsy kernel (I never took a look yet as the box I have it on is having serious heat troubles with the gutsy kernel)
[10:58] <DanaG> cfs?
[10:58] <h3sp4wn> scheduler
[10:58] <h3sp4wn> (I remember seeing it was the first patch added as part of testing the new kernel build thing dunno whether it was subsequently dropped)
[10:59] <h3sp4wn> cpu scheduler (qualify it a bit)
[10:59] <DanaG> I don't see any cfs in /boot/config-2.6.22-7-generic
[10:59] <DanaG> grep -i CFS /boot/config-2.6.22-7-generic :  CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS=y  CONFIG_OCFS2_DEBUG_MASKLOG=y  CONFIG_OCFS2_FS=m  CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PROCFS=y
[10:59] <DanaG> nothing scheduler.
[11:03] <h3sp4wn> sched.c is where you will find it
[11:09] <DanaG> I don't have the Ubuntu sources installed.
[11:09] <DanaG> I'm currently compiling a custom kernel, for the sake of hopefully fixing suspend and/or consoles/
[11:09] <DanaG> .
[11:11] <siimo> anyone else having problem on HARD lockups about 4-5 mins into booting the Ape ?  seems X related
[11:30] <DanaG> Wow, somehow I managed to get the make-kpkg thingy to segfault.
[11:32] <hansin321> DanaG: I also get the blank screen on vga=XXX bug.  I like to unset the splash screen and set the vga/framebuffer value because I like that output better than the splash sceen.  Which brings up a point I have, the splash screen could use some aesthetic help, but as I don't have the skill I am not going to complain (I just think is look just so-so).
[11:33] <hansin321> But I imagine boot sequence is something that is always being worked on...
[11:34] <DanaG> Oddly, even without splash, vga= still causes blank terminals.
[11:34] <siimo> no lockips for you guys tho?
[11:34] <siimo> :[
[11:35] <hansin321> DanaG: I know.  That is how I do it.  I thought maybe they were getting rid of the output or something.  Maybe a framebuffer issue??
[11:37] <hansin321> siimo: I get some app crashes, but never yet fully locked up.  When I shutdown, the X server gives me some multi-colored weirdness before finally shuting down.
[11:37] <hansin321> Compiz issues are a big one, but I think that is already known...
[11:37] <siimo> me dont run compiz
[11:42] <hansin321> Well, big issue for me.  Sounds like you have other things going as well.  Alpha software, bound to happen.
[11:42] <DanaG> oopsie, hit a wrong key.
[11:45] <Netham45> anyone know an IM client that does webcams that works over Linux(Ubuntu) and Windows?
[11:48] <FunnyLookinHat> Netham45, amsn is an msn client that supposedly works well with the windows msn client in terms of video chat.
[11:57] <Netham45> !webcam
[11:57] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:02] <siimo> woot got my Fiber connection yesterday o_o
[12:07] <DanaG> What the heck? make-kpkg is segfaulting on me.
[12:07] <DanaG>   INSTALL sound/usb/snd-usb-audio.ko
[12:07] <DanaG> mkdir: `/usr/src/linux-2.6.22-rc6/debian/linux-image-2.6.22-rc6-ragnarok1/lib/modules/2.6.22-rc6-ragnarok1/kernel/sound/usb': Not a directory
[12:07] <DanaG> cp: accessing `/usr/src/linux-2.6.22-rc6/debian/linux-image-2.6.22-rc6-ragnarok1/lib/modules/2.6.22-rc6-ragnarok1/kernel/sound/usb': Not a directory
[12:07] <Tm_T> Kopete works too
[12:08] <DanaG> For some reason, the "sound" dir is empty!
[12:08] <DanaG> and because my scrollback is gone for some reason, I can't figure out why.
[12:09] <DanaG> [12:09] <DanaG> make: *** [stamp-arch-conf]  Error 1
[12:17] <Mod_Man> has anyone had a problem with the update that was released today


[00:39] <pteague> if the file for a recording is empty... it sure would be nice to have the option to then *delete* that recording... >.>
[00:45] <tgm4883_laptop> pteague, you can't delete that recording?
[00:46] <tgm4883_laptop> i was always able to delete those recordings from the frontend, but haven't had to do that in a while
[00:46] <pteague> it just gives me the ok option...  if i press the right arrow after it determines it's empty all i get is the message again with the ok button
[00:48] <pteague> however, if i exit out of there (i don't remember how far i have to go out, i know exiting out of the frontend does it) & go back in... if i can remember which 1 it was i can press the right arrow on it & it gives me the list of options (play, storage options, delete, etc)
[00:56] <MythbuntuGuest78> I am shopping for a PCI based TV Tuner card and I need some help selecting the correct one.
[00:57] <pteague> hauppauge pvr-500
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> FYI, the 8.10 RC announcement sent to the -annc mailing list mentions http://mythbuntu.org/8.10/rc, which gives an "Access denied" message.
[01:12] <tonyyarusso> See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-October/000115.html, towards the bottom.
[01:15] <EnderTheThird> Anyone know how Mythbuntu Control Centre forces authentication?  I want to allow no authentication for LAN, but I'm not sure which files Mythbuntu modified.  I'm checking the wiki now but a lot of that stuff is commented out
[01:17] <baggar11> anyone have diskless frontends operational? can't see to get my backend box to host. Not sure if the options I'm seleting enable it, since they go back to default everytime I open up mythtv control center
[02:52] <crs> Hello im having a problem that just occured when i attempted to add another tuner to my existing box. I added the tuner and filled the database but now it does not see my firewire stb and says "Failed to locate "Error no vaild captures cards are defined in teh database" I have tried deleting the firewire and adding it again and now it does not auto populate the GUID field as it did before dont know if that has anyth
[04:32] <||ChAoS||> I think I am having a basic implementation problem, but its been so long since I have done anything Linux related I am not sure where to start diagnosing the problem.  I am getting a solid green screen for any channel i try to watch... I have posted my logs here if anyone has a minute to take a look it would be appreciated: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f2c45ab34
[05:37] <MarcRandolph> Howdy all, Anybody still awake?
[05:38] <tgm4883_laptop> always
[05:39] <MarcRandolph> ha
[05:40] <MarcRandolph> I was about to upgrade to the latest +fixes18704, but aptitude wants to remove apache2.  Any debugging I can do for you?
[05:40] <MarcRandolph> Regarding that?
[05:40] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, that doesn't seem good
[05:40] <MarcRandolph> That's what I was thinking!
[05:41] <superm1> MarcRandolph, are you using intrepid or hardy?
[05:42] <MarcRandolph> Still on hardy :-|
[05:42] <MarcRandolph> Has fixes switched?
[05:42] <superm1> so weekly builds then right?
[05:42] <MarcRandolph> right
[05:42] <MarcRandolph> $ apt-cache policy mythweb
[05:42] <MarcRandolph> mythweb:
[05:42] <MarcRandolph>   Installed: 0.21.0+fixes18528-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu1
[05:42] <MarcRandolph>   Candidate: 0.21.0+fixes18704-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu1
[05:42] <MarcRandolph>   Version table:
[05:42] <superm1> try with apt-get and see if it still wants to do that
[05:42] <MarcRandolph>      0.21.0+fixes18704-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu1 0
[05:42] <MarcRandolph>         500 http://weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org hardy/main Packages
[05:43] <MarcRandolph> apt-get looks like it would do the correct thing.  I didn't go through with it though in case we could use it to debug something
[05:43] <superm1> i'm not a fan of aptitude, it's can be invasive and mean
[05:43] <MarcRandolph> hahah
[05:43] <superm1> it's probably because apache2 got marked autoremovable
[05:43] <superm1> how did it first get installed?
[05:44] <MarcRandolph> This is my 7.10 from alt-cd + mythbuntu-control-center added to it, then upgraded to 8.04.  I assume the MCC was what added it originally.
[05:44] <superm1> so there's a long variety of steps though that it could have gone wrong
[05:44] <MarcRandolph> Understood.
[05:45] <MarcRandolph> So probably not worth debugging.  I have no problem with that.  just wondering.
[05:45] <superm1> well since you are the first one mentioning this, i dont know its worth tracking down the root cause;
[05:45] <superm1> yeah
[05:45] <MarcRandolph> The only strange part is that I've used aptitude for quite a few months, and this is the first time.
[05:45] <superm1> if you are insistent on using aptitude, you can type apt-get install apache2 to unmark it autoremovable
[05:45] <superm1> and then aptitude should stop being a bully about it
[05:45] <MarcRandolph> hahaha
[05:46] <MarcRandolph> I'd started using aptitude because I'd read that it was supposed to be smarter, but I guess that may be in the eye of the beholder :-)
[05:46] <superm1> at least for hardy and less it always installed more than it should
[05:46] <superm1> because it would pull in all recommends
[05:46] <superm1> for intrepid, apt-get does recommends by default, but most packages have been set to sane recommends
[05:47] <MarcRandolph> If I remember correctly, I turned that off.  Don't really care to have all the possible recommends.
[05:47] <MarcRandolph> Not for any good reason probably
[05:49] <MarcRandolph> apt-get install apache2 did as you thought - aptitude doesn't try to remove it now.
[05:52] <tgm4883_laptop> MarcRandolph, you said you are on hardy?
[05:52] <MarcRandolph> yep
[05:53] <tgm4883_laptop> 18704 tries to remove apache2, hmm.  amd64 or i386?
[05:53] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm going to try an update on my backend in a sec
[05:53] <MarcRandolph> standard.  i386
[05:53] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[05:53] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[05:53] <MarcRandolph> np
[05:55] <MarcRandolph> Let me try my experimental machine.  It's still on hardy too (kinda stuck there for the moment while I try to finish up debugging some Dell/Gyration remote stuff).
[05:58] <tgm4883_laptop> nope, doesn't want to remove apache2 here
[05:58] <MarcRandolph> I'll try my other machine... few more minutes to finish booting.
[05:58] <tgm4883_laptop> back in a sec
[06:03] <MarcRandolph> doesn't want to remove apache2 on my other machine either.  Oh well... I'll try that next time before raising any questions.
[06:06] <MarcRandolph> I'd love to stay up, but the daughter will be pulling me out of bed in 6 hours, so I gotta catch some zzz's.  Thanks for all the hard work on mythbuntu!
[06:57] <Rellikrats> i'm having a problem with the mythbuntu installation, I install from cd, and it brings up a black window with an x cursor, ctr+alt+f1 gets me to a command prompt so it's not really hanging. Has anyone heard of this problem?
[08:53] <ilikesthemedia> hello, I am using mythbuntu 8.4, which by default is running the front end 0.21 .. i think.  I am trying to connect to the front end via telnet, and I've allowed the front end to be controlled by a network remote in the general settings.  I can connect to the server on port 6546 Ok, but i dont get any text prompts, or responses when i type a command.  Does any one know if there is a service i should start or some place on the
[08:59] <SteveH0> > I'm setting up Mythbuntu for the first time on a new machine, and it appears
[08:59] <SteveH0> > +to be working, EXCEPT I am constantly getting "Too many video packets in
[08:59] <SteveH0> +the
[08:59] <SteveH0> > +buffer: nnn in nnnnnnnnn bytes".  Does that ring a bell with anyone?
[08:59] <SteveH0> I'm running Mythbuntu 8.04
[09:00] <SteveH0> Uh, also, this is happening on PLAYBACK, not record.
[18:09] <||ChAoS||> >	I think I am having a basic implementation problem, but its been so long since I have done anything Linux related I am not sure where to start diagnosing the problem. I am getting a solid green screen for any channel i try to watch... I have posted my logs here if anyone has a minute to take a look it would be appreciated: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f2c45ab34
[19:41] <baalsgate> i just upgraded but cant seem to get the nvidia drivers going again ?
[19:45] <baalsgate> hello
[19:45] <baalsgate> anyone ?
[19:45] <baalsgate> cant seem to get the nvidia excellerated drivers to load
[20:00] <baalsgate> ok fixed it
[20:06] <baalsgate> if anyone happens to be here i will be on the side waiting
[20:12] <giver> hello
[20:13] <giver> can anyone help? installed mythbuntu and installation freezes at restart of the pc
[20:32] <giver> any hints on installing mythbuntu?
[20:33] <giver> need some help,installation finishes,but freezes at restart,only way to stop it to remove power,so nothing installs
[20:33] <giver> have to wait a long while for the restart?
[21:01] <giver> hello,is someone able to answer a questio or two? installing mythbuntu,install freezes at restart
[21:02] <giver> it finishes,yet,get stuck at reboot,it never happen,so nothing is written to the hard drive
[23:13] <Decepticon> i just finished installing mythtv with apt-get, do i want to add my username to mythtv group now? and then run mythtv backend setup? or other way around or?
[23:14] <Lunar_Lamp> Can't hurt to add your user to the muthtv group in advance
[23:18] <Decepticon> im getting some trouble with the database setup step of the mythtv backend setup first time run after login/logout
[23:19] <Decepticon> says cannot login to database and asks me to enter info again
[23:21] <Decepticon> what is the correct info i should be putting into this database setup screen?
[23:21] <Decepticon> i cant get it to work
[23:21] <Decepticon> where is the correct ifno


[13:49] <kembrek> helo
[13:49] <kembrek> siwd i chi, merched a bechgyn?
[14:32] <kembrek> brobostigon, mae angen i ti ail-lwytho dy gronfa ddata ar gyfer dy flog http://blog.taylorworld.me.uk/
[14:35] <brobostigon> ?
[14:35] <brobostigon> i am not that fluent in welsh.
[14:37] <kembrek> yay, a response :)
[14:37] <brobostigon> yes, i am always here.
[14:37] <kembrek> Oh, I just noticed your blog's complaining because the database is wrong
[14:38] <brobostigon> it isnt my blog, but yes, i havent had the time to concentrate and fix it.
[14:38] <kembrek> I've come here a few times and haven't had a response
[14:40] <brobostigon> oh strange, but have been when i wasnt around then, i use tmux + irssi + bitlbee, so it looks like i am here, when i really am not.
[14:41] <brobostigon> might have been8
[14:41] <brobostigon> might have been*
[14:41] <kembrek> ah, very nice!
[14:42] <kembrek> I've started using irssi recently
[14:42] <brobostigon> takes some learning, but is great once you learn how it works.
[14:43] <kembrek> I just figured, once you have your configuration made you can hold on to that text file and it'll always be the same way then
[14:44] <brobostigon> yes, i would keep hold of the whole directory, as it will include script/plugins and server encryption keys etc.
[14:44] <brobostigon> scripts*
[14:44] <kembrek> oh encryption keys! I haven't got anything that posh with irc yet
[14:45] <kembrek> we have to use them in work for authenticating our version control
[14:45] <brobostigon> ah.
[14:45] <kembrek> how long have you been using ubuntu?
[14:46] <brobostigon> i have used debian the last decade or so, and ubuntu roughly the last 5 years.
[14:47] <brobostigon> and i use other systems, like haiku-os aswell.


[15:09] <hannie> hi all!
[15:11] <CarstenG> Hi Hannie!
[15:12] <hannie> CarstenG, what do you think of my latest screenshots?
[15:14] <hannie> If they are ok, and you have done the missing ones, we are almost ready to publish
[15:14] <hannie> All I have to do is add some \\-
[15:15] <CarstenG> 02-HUD-message.png - you can crop this again in the height, or?
[15:16] <hannie> I could, but I do like the way it looks now too
[15:16] <CarstenG> 03-U1-naut-addfolder-rtclick.png - Is fullscreen necessary?
[15:16] <CarstenG> ok
[15:17] <hannie> I'll have a look
[15:17] <CarstenG> 03-U1-naut-sync-files-notification.png - fullscreen necessary? and it is now English :-)
[15:18] <hannie> ah, you got me there !!!! I do not get any notification in my Jan Jansen account
[15:19] <hannie> I did add a folder to the cloud and added some files to it
[15:19] <hannie> They are synced, but no notification. I'll try again
[15:21] <CarstenG> 05-firefox-ppa.png - I would make the screenshot of the firefox window not in fullscreen mode, to avoid the desktop menu bar.
[15:21] <hannie> figure 3.35 (U1 right click) I like it in full screen, would you prefer not to?
[15:21] <CarstenG> mmmh, strange with the notification. I will have a look to this, too.
[15:22] <hannie> if you can make the U1-notification for me I would be grateful
[15:23] <hannie> 05-PPA: this is the same as in the English version
[15:24] <hannie> 05-PPA, yes I can make a new one
[15:24] <CarstenG> 05-PPA, yes, the website itself. But I mean the fullscreen mode. This is IMHO not necessary.
[15:25] <CarstenG> Figure 3.35: Sure if you like it, then its ok. I made it for the German version only withe window.
[15:25] <hannie> 05-PPA: It is in the English screenshot as well. Do you mean that it is better to have Jan Jansen in the indicator?
[15:26] <hannie> 3.35: I think they are both ok
[15:26] <hannie> I had another PPA with Jan Jansen, but then I have to change the caption too
[15:29] <CarstenG> 05-PPA: I mean, you have now fullscreen mode, 1024x768. I would make only the firefox window (not in full screen mode) so that there is no indicator menu, neither "Jan Jansen" nor "Ubuntu".
[15:30] <hannie> ok, I will do that. But what's wrong with having the menu bar as well?
[15:30] <hannie> *title bar :)
[15:33] <CarstenG> There is nothing wrong. It's only my personal feeling. I would only concentrate to the important thing, and the indicator menu isn’t here. :-)
[15:33] <CarstenG> isn’t important...
[15:33] <CarstenG> Ok, the last:
[15:33] <hannie> go ahead
[15:34] <CarstenG> 05-manual-deb-install.png - There is a strange black line at the top...
[15:34] <hannie> let me see...
[15:35] <CarstenG> And as I wrote in my last email, for the 06-root-directories.png I would use the svg file to create the translated version.
[15:37] <hannie> hmmmm, when I set Evince at 400% I do see a small black line. I can change that too
[15:38] <hannie> 06-root-directories: I opened the svg file in Gimp, changed it, and saved it as png. Is that not right?
[15:39] <hannie> ok, just found another email of yours. Wasn't there earlier. I am going to read it.
[15:41] <hannie> quote I would recommend to use the svg template in the folder
[15:41] <hannie> screenshots/transtatable_templates for translation.
[15:41] <hannie> That is what I did. Why do you think I did not?
[15:42] <CarstenG> Ah, I see, you opened the svg in GIMP.
[15:42] <CarstenG> Use Inkscape instead, so you can manipulate the elements directly.
[15:43] <CarstenG> I mean, there are the real strings inside...
[15:43] <hannie> ok, I will use inkscape instead. Seems much better
[15:43] <CarstenG> In GIMP you have only a image of the strings.
[15:44] <hannie> I didn't know that. Thanks for the tip
[15:44] <hannie> So, to summerize, I will do the following:
[15:45] <hannie> 1. remake 06-root-directories.png
[15:45] <hannie> 2. remove black line from fig. 5.8 (deb)
[15:46] <hannie> 3. retake PPA (only current window)
[15:46] <hannie> And then pfffwwww at last we can publish
[15:47] <CarstenG> Yes, hopefully :-)
[15:48] <CarstenG> Maybe I find again something... :-)
[15:48] <hannie> It will be done in a jiffy ;) Thanks for your help. I will notice when you have done the last missing ones
[15:49] <CarstenG> Yes, now I will make your todo list.
[15:49] <hannie> thanks again
[15:50] <CarstenG> you are welcome.
[15:50] <CarstenG> And thank you, too.


[00:10] <roaksoax> bigjools: howdy!
[00:11] <roaksoax> bigjools: https://code.launchpad.net/~andreserl/maas/update_maas_url_on_upgrade_raring
[00:11] <roaksoax> bigjools: so I proposed a branch for packaging that fixes the issues i found
[00:12] <roaksoax> the issue is that maas_cluster.conf has MAAS_URL=http://localhost/MAAS
[00:12] <roaksoax> this causes that the url passed on kernel parameters to be http://localhost/MAAS/metadata/etc/etc
[00:12] <roaksoax> (for example)
[00:13] <roaksoax> so the branch does two things
[00:13] <roaksoax> 1. Allows reconfiguration of MAAS_URL (becuase it only configures it in new installs and doesn't chagne it on dpkg-reconfigure)
[00:14] <roaksoax> 2. If no MAAS_URL has been set in dbconfig common, and the cluster-controller is installed in the same place where the maas-region-controller, then we obtain the MAAS_URL from DEFAULT_MAAS_URL (/etc/maas/maas_local_settings.py). Makes sense?
[00:28] <bigjools> I don't understand why this is a problem for you, we tested this before and didn't have any problems
[00:28] <bigjools> but either way I can't stop to look at this right now, sorry
[00:29] <bigjools> I'll go through it with rvb later
[00:47] <roaksoax> bigjools: this is a problem that i experienced in two different upgrades
[00:47] <roaksoax> bigjools: which broke MAS
[00:47] <roaksoax> MAAS
[00:48] <roaksoax> i installed a clean raring from archives and upgraded and the issue was preseny
[00:48] <roaksoax> i upgraded a quantal MAAS and problem was present
[00:50] <roaksoax> bigjools:  and did you guys test upgrades only or also test enlistment/commisioning
[00:50] <bigjools> I remember testing both
[00:51] <bigjools> can you chase this up with rvb
[00:51] <roaksoax> this was seen due to failing to enlist because the metadata url passed to cloud-init in kernel command line was http://localhost/MAAS/metadata
[00:51] <bigjools> I'll make sure he has time to look at it
[00:51] <roaksoax> ack
[00:51] <roaksoax> ill upload the package with my worksround either way
[00:51] <bigjools> I really don't understand how it's a problem - I know it worked for me :/
[00:53] <bigjools> don't upload anything yet
[00:53] <roaksoax> this fix is a packaging fix
[00:53] <roaksoax> which is minor
[00:53] <roaksoax> 1. is fixing dpkg-reconfigure (unrelated to thijs bug) 2. fixing this issue seen
[00:53] <roaksoax> and I need to move on
[00:53] <roaksoax> and get things done
[00:54] <roaksoax> and until I don't have anything in the archives then i'm blocked
[00:54] <roaksoax> either way, this can be removed, it is a 3 line change to fix this
[00:55] <roaksoax> i'll get you screenshots so you guys can figure out what went wrong inside MAAS
[02:36] <julianwa_> bigjools: hi
[02:37] <bigjools> roaksoax: ok thanks
[02:37] <bigjools> julianwa_: hi, so ...
[02:37] <bigjools> what do you need to customise exactly?
[02:38] <julianwa_> since 12.04 has ghes failed problem in kernel. I want to add  ghes.disable=1 there
[02:40] <bigjools> ok
[02:41] <bigjools> julianwa_: it's been a while since I touched the 12.04 code, but there's a pxe template that you can alter
[02:41] <bigjools> look under provisioningserver/pxe/
[02:42] <julianwa_> looks pxelinux.cfg/default is generated by cobbler.
[02:43] <bigjools> oh crap I forgot about cobbler
[02:44] <julianwa_> bigjools: that's ok. seems we found it in cobbler/config/profile.d/maas-enlist json file
[02:45] <bigjools> sorry - it's been a long time since I even thought about the cobbler code, it's just a bad memory
[02:45] <bigjools> let me know how you get on
[02:46] <julianwa_> yes. I'm trying
[03:16] <julianwa_> bigjools: it is done by change 'kernel options' in cobbler cmdline
[03:16] <bigjools> ah ok
[03:16] <bigjools> julianwa_: bear in mind that we're doing an SRU soon that completely removes the Cobbler part
[03:41] <julianwa_> bigjools:  sure, I'd like to try the new MaaS and Juju :)
[16:13] <spideyman> bigjools: Hi
[16:13] <spideyman> can anyone have a look at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1100091
[16:40] <roaksoax> rvba: howdy
[16:40] <roaksoax> rvba: so I just tested an upgrade with your fix on it
[16:40] <roaksoax> rvba: and the same issue ramins
[16:40] <roaksoax> remains
[16:41] <rvba> roaksoax: did you upgrade from a 'broken' server?  My fix can't fix a broken server, but it's prevent it from getting broken.
[16:42] <roaksoax> nope not broken server
[16:42] <roaksoax> upgrade from an archive one
[16:42] <roaksoax> let me test again
[16:43] <rvba> roaksoax: can you run something like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1538064/
[16:43] <roaksoax> ok, just destroyed my environment
[16:43] <roaksoax> re testing
[17:14] <roaksoax> rvba: weird. It works this time
[17:14] <roaksoax> rvba: so I confirm it is fixed
[17:15] <roaksoax> rvba: thanks for your work on it :)
[17:23] <rvba> roaksoax: cool, I'm relieved.  Thanks for testing it.
[19:21] <roadmr> hey folks, kernel_opts is not working suddenly, what happened to it? :( got renamed?
[19:59] <bitwiz> good afternoon, I just installed 12.10 maas and I am up to the point where I need to add an ssh key to the maas superuser account 'root'. I generate a key set using "ssh-keygen -t dsa -f root" afterwhich i cut and paste the key in the dashboard and it informs me that it is invalid. so what am i missing?
[20:05] <roadmr> bitwiz: are you pasting the contents of root.pub in the dashboard?
[20:05] <bitwiz> yes, and that is when i get the error
[20:06] <roadmr> bitwiz: ok, try removing the -t dsa parameter
[20:06] <bitwiz> i do a more root.pub on a putty term, and copy and paste the output
[20:06] <roadmr> bitwiz: can you do this right now? I'd like to know if that works
[20:06] <bitwiz> yes i can
[20:06] <roadmr> awesome, thanks
[20:07] <roadmr> bitwiz: if you omit "-t dsa" it will generate a rsa key by default
[20:07] <roadmr> bitwiz: btw I don't promise it will work, it's just a stab in the dark :)
[20:08] <bitwiz> same error without "-t dsa"
[20:10] <roadmr> bitwiz: ok, let's have a look at the key itself then
[20:10] <bitwiz> ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAABAQCrKwLGTe1DCfF1u+lq/YeOl4y0YLPMIv7KYR6yhzFFJLfC0uiZHaGe596W4/gKxygPJ7xyK9kxmn90fPqFh6ms4NT/rZk20Foifuu3N06C/zhWyh4OUDomMnF/W MJfvq+lYr/Gq2DEYaij8/irMleB3TVanRimjv1rP3AjfzlE0VSBSWMlAYyD+dsB3QdqKUo1VqE90kcwfWCyIn/H1oR5b1HDNuCNWhJ/iPra7AinLJ2KH6wXOQ+rot7vfBq+HZdqy/TtjsKVlQW7kkQ1HixdJzMQ2l ddTps9q8ev8eDIv2Lv7XfFaj+oS6nl7az8ux1xTd4ihvrXs2rE7kZr3R33 root@cloud-controller
[20:10] <roadmr> bitwiz: can you paste your .pub key here? (just as if you were going to paste it in the maas console)
[20:10] <roadmr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:12] <bitwiz> ok it is pasted
[20:12] <roadmr> bitwiz: when you pasted it, it gave you a url http://paste.ubuntu.com/<some number>
[20:12] <roadmr> can you put that url here?
[20:13] <bitwiz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1538666/
[20:13] <roadmr> fantastic, thanks
[20:13] <roadmr> ok as you can see, your key is split into three lines
[20:13] <bitwiz> is that the issue
[20:13] <roadmr> bitwiz: yes, what you need to do is this
[20:14] <roadmr> paste it in the maas panel but before clicking "add key", delete the stray spaces at the end of each line
[20:14] <roadmr> bitwiz: there's one after F/W
[20:14] <bitwiz> ok, let me try that
[20:15] <roadmr> and another after Q2l
[20:15] <roadmr> bitwiz: the spaces are what's throwing it off, mostly
[20:16] <bitwiz> you are correct.. it took the key this time. thank you
[20:16] <roadmr> bitwiz: awesome, glad it worked :)
[20:17] <bitwiz> i would have never thought of that. Now i know to look for multilines in keys
[20:18] <roadmr> bitwiz: it's probably an issue with copying it from the terminal, maybe putty somehow inserts those spaces
[20:18] <roadmr> bitwiz: I *think* multilines are fine, but once you squash them, the spaces cause the key string to be invalid
[20:19] <bitwiz> that makes sense
[21:38] <dsb> dannf: why...hello there.  ;)
[21:38] <dannf> hey dsb


 OMG, people are so sensitive today. (re @bittin1: Got revoked as an Ubuntu member after 1 month and 8 days, as someone from the Kubuntu project said i was not nice, even if it was him that bullied me so losing my rabatte at Gandi and @ubuntu.com email tomorrow)
 It's there loss. (re @bittin1: Got revoked as an Ubuntu member after 1 month and 8 days, as someone from the Kubuntu project said i was not nice, even if it was him that bullied me so losing my rabatte at Gandi and @ubuntu.com email tomorrow)
 Come join us at Xubuntu (re @bittin1: Got revoked as an Ubuntu member after 1 month and 8 days, as someone from the Kubuntu project said i was not nice, even if it was him that bullied me so losing my rabatte at Gandi and @ubuntu.com email tomorrow)
 Xubuntu is also under the Ubuntu umbrella, not a separate distro. (re @John: Come join us at Xubuntu)
[20:20] <teward> ^^ what eickmeyer said
[20:21] <teward> theres no ban on bittin still participating and contributing but their membership is still revoked
 I know that, I'm just saying that we will appreciate her if she does, we are short staffed at the moment. 😂 (re @Eickmeyer: Xubuntu is also under the Ubuntu umbrella, not a separate distro.)
[21:04] <Mekaneck> I still kinda feel that the whole discussion about luna/bittin isn't suited to discuss here in Ubuntu Quality on IRC and Ubuntu Testers on Telegram
[21:05] <Mekaneck> just my 2 cents :°
[21:05] <Mekaneck> :)


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