[07:51] <Zugot> when i finally build my new server, i'm going to take the old server and turn it into a media server
[07:51] <ogra> gangalino: its in universe
[07:51] <Zugot> so then i'll buy a sound card that can do digital sound output
[07:51] <JackandJohn> gangalino - I'm going to guess you need the universal repository
[07:51] <gangalino> i checked the universe, it still didn't find it. anything I can do to point it more specifically?
[07:52] <gen> did you edit your sources.list gangalino
[07:52] <thenuke> how do I install nvidias drivers to hoary?
[07:52] <ogra> gangalino: did you hit reload ?
[07:52] <JackandJohn> sec
[07:52] <HWolf> Hm, linux_mafia, that does nothing.
[07:52] <thenuke> did not work with aptget like normally does
[07:52] <gangalino> I didn't reload, let me try that
[07:52] <ogra> hehe
[07:52] <Schumister> anyone know about roaming profiles on ubuntu
[07:52] <Zugot> i'm a ubuntu newb... (but not a linux newb) and i found that most questions are answered on the ubuntu wiki page
[07:53] <gen> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx, thenuke
[07:53] <JackandJohn>  ganglino - I found it in mine
[07:53] <Schumister> anyone know about roaming profiles on ubuntu
[07:53] <Treenaks> Schumister: just create homedirectories on an NFS server and (auto)mount those
[07:53] <ks> what are roaming profiles?
[07:53] <ks> isnt that jsut ur home directory?
[07:53] <linux_mafia> HWolf, flag the grepping then and just dmesg|less
[07:54] <Schumister> how
[07:54] <f> :)
[07:54] <Schumister> mkdir bla bla bla
[07:54] <gangalino> I went into the Synaptics mgr./settings/repository/ and checked the other URLs like universal. that doesn't work?
[07:54] <thomas_> JDahl, I ping the <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:54] <HWolf> I keep getting a nice 'could not open resource for writing' :-S
[07:54] <thomas_> I've try : ifconfig eth0 down  -> up .. but ubuntu doesn't responding !
[07:55] <Schumister> how
[07:55] <Schumister> treenaks how do i create dir's on nfs server
[07:55] <linux_mafia> gen, what you told him to do will not help without enabling the restricted repo
[07:55] <JDahl> thomas_, try pinging your own hostname... I think you can always ping localhost as long as loopback is working, doesnt really test anything
[07:55] <ogra> thomas_: the <IP_ADDRESS> interface is called lo, not eth
[07:55] <gen> linux, didn't know he hadn't
[07:55] <Treenaks> Schumister: google.com
[07:56] <Schumister> any hacking tools for linuk  ethical tools
[07:56] <Treenaks> Schumister: setting up an NFS server is not hard, but it has been described hundreds of times :)
[07:56] <thomas_> the most strang is : at the boot : ubuntu seems to have the TIME from nbt.ubuntu.time.. (or something like that)
[07:56] <Zugot> nfs server is soooo easy
[07:56] <linux_mafia> plenty, c, python
[07:56] <linux_mafia> etc
[07:56] <ogra> thomas_: yep
[07:56] <Schumister> making the home directories is all i want
[07:56] <winnipegm> winnipegm@S010600112f8b7485:~ $  mkdir -p /home/username/.mozilla/plugins
[07:56] <winnipegm> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/username': Permission denied
[07:56] <thomas_> I've try to change my IP too .. but ubuntu crash .. like when I down>up  eth0
[07:57] <winnipegm> reason for that?
[07:57] <JDahl> thomas_, what does "ifconfig" without any arguments tell you?
[07:57] <hanz> thomas_: what is in /etc/resolv.conf
[07:57] <ogra> winnipegm: what is username ?
[07:57] <winnipegm> hmmm
[07:57] <thomas_> ifconfig give me lo, and eth0 configuration.
[07:57] <ogra> winnipegm: is your user actually callde like this ?
[07:57] <winnipegm> ooppps
[07:57] <thomas_> the configuration give during the installation
[07:57] <winnipegm> my bad
[07:57] <winnipegm> mistake
[07:57] <winnipegm> i had to put my user name in
[07:57] <JDahl> thomas_, but they look fine?
[07:58] <ogra> winnipegm: $USER works too, but not username....
[07:58] <ogra> :)
[07:58] <Schumister> thanx guys bye hope my ubuntu cd ship soon /quit ubuntu is SOuth African u fucks never forget that
[07:58] <thomas_> yes, fine.
[07:59] <ogra> my god
[07:59] <winnipegm> woot i have java now :D
[07:59] <JackandJohn> can anyone tell me how to specify user/pass for browsing a sindows(smaba)share through gnome?
[07:59] <thomas_> it seems that the eth0 doesn't respond. or something like that..
[07:59] <Zugot> how do I fix this....  http://paste.plone.org/255
[08:00] <winnipegm> 2004-12-04 13:59:46 EST: 4354 / 903
[08:00] <winnipegm> Your download speed : 4458684 bps, or 4354 kbps.
[08:00] <winnipegm> A 544.2 KB/sec transfer rate.
[08:00] <winnipegm> Your upload speed : 925212 bps, or 903 kbps.
[08:00] <winnipegm> that worked
[08:00] <winnipegm> :)
[08:00] <hanz> thomas_ : is your card found ?
[08:01] <thomas_> what do you mean exactly 'found' .
[08:01] <hanz> does linux reconise the card
[08:01] <thomas_> how can I check ?
[08:01] <ogra> Zugot: seems you got foreign repositorys in your sources
[08:02] <thomas_> a laptop .. with a network chipset realtek 8139.
[08:02] <thomas_> (I've got the same probleme with freebsd)
[08:02] <Zugot> ogra, i was just following the restricted formats docs..
[08:02] <JDahl> thomas_, did you manually load the network driver? and what does lsmod | grep <driver> tell you?
[08:02] <Zugot> but i fixed it already
[08:02] <hanz> in gnome with the devicemanager
[08:02] <JDahl> thomas_, maybe you're not using the right module? just a thought
[08:02] <ogra> Zugot: hmm, there should be a warning... in the doc.....
[08:03] <thomas_> during the installation UBUNTU ask me IP , gateway ..DNS.. that's all i've conf.
[08:03] <winnipegm> linux_mafia: where do i get that totem-xine i searched on google not much help
[08:03] <ogra> thomas_: does the command: route         gvie you a list of routes ?
[08:03] <Zugot> ubuntu support xinerama sucks royally
[08:03] <Zugot> i mean royally
[08:04] <thomas_> ogra.. i' did not check.  I' reboot to check.. i'm back in 2 mins ! THANKS for your help ! :)
[08:04] <zenwhen> Zugot,
[08:04] <Zugot> zenwhen, yes?
[08:05] <zenwhen> Ubuntu uses standard Xfree. There is nothing about ubuntu that could cause its zinerama support to be non standard.
[08:05] <zenwhen> xinerama*
[08:05] <Zugot> zenwhen, uh... yes there is
[08:05] <JackandJohn> question: do I have to add applications to the gnome menu manually? or do any actually get in there by themselves?
[08:05] <Zugot> your app still needs to support xinerama
[08:05] <zenwhen> Well then sir, why was it easy for me?
[08:05] <Zugot> and it appears that gnome doesn't support it that well
[08:05] <zenwhen> Oh
[08:05] <Zugot> i have dual screens up right now
[08:05] <Zugot> that works
[08:06] <Zugot> but i don't appreciate having dialogs open in the middle of the screen, which means it crosses two monitors
[08:06] <zenwhen> Oh
[08:06] <pisuke> Zugot, the best window manager for xinerama support is enlightenment
[08:06] <Zugot> and when i maximize an app, i want it to maximize to one monitor, not to both
[08:07] <zenwhen> Oh
[08:07] <Zugot> gnome and metacity can do this, i had a gentoo install up for months on this server, that had everything working
[08:07] <zenwhen> Want my x config? You may get something you need from it.
[08:07] <zenwhen> Mine works just as you say you want it to.
[08:07] <Zugot> zenwhen....  sure i'll have a look, send it to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:08] <Zugot> i have lots of weirdo problems with gnome as well, focus follows mouse doesn't seem to work at all
[08:08] <Zugot> actually... i'm going to delete my .gnome* directories and start over again
[08:08] <Zugot> brb
[08:08] <Zugot> (gotta log out first)
[08:08] <zenwhen> You have mail.
[08:09] <winnipegm> how can i view my 200gig ntfs drive ?????
[08:09] <Tomcat_> winnipegm: Mount it :o
[08:10] <winnipegm> hahahah
[08:10] <Tomcat_> winnipegm: mount -t ntfs /dev/<drive> /mnt/<dir>
[08:10] <winnipegm> :D
[08:10] <winnipegm> ok
[08:10] <winnipegm> lemme try
[08:11] <linux_mafia> winnipegm, totem-xine? just apt-get it
[08:11] <winnipegm> ok
[08:11] <winnipegm> winnipegm@S010600112f8b7485:/mnt/sda1 $ mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[08:11] <winnipegm> mount: only root can do that
[08:12] <winnipegm> hmmm
[08:12] <ogra> winnipegm: put sudo in front
[08:12] <winnipegm> hehe
[08:13] <paulproteus> JackandJohn: smb://user:pass@host/share
[08:13] <winnipegm> root@S010600112f8b7485:/home/winnipegm # /mnt/sda1 $ mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/movies
[08:13] <winnipegm> bash: /mnt/sda1: is a directory
[08:13] <winnipegm> so i did it
[08:13] <winnipegm> thats all?
[08:14] <ogra> winnipegm: can you access it  ?
[08:14] <winnipegm> i see the folder but its empty
[08:15] <winnipegm> i go into /mnt folder
[08:15] <linux_mafia> winnipegm, get rid of the shit before mount
[08:15] <winnipegm> i see sda1
[08:15] <ogra> winnipegm: /mnt/movies ?
[08:15] <winnipegm> get rid of what
[08:15] <winnipegm> i dunno
[08:15] <linux_mafia> /mnt/sda1 $
[08:15] <winnipegm> ok
[08:16] <_|Imanewbie|_> Does anyone has installed Java?
[08:16] <ogra> winnipegm: the command mounts the drive on /mnt/movies
[08:16] <ogra> _|Imanewbie|_: yep
[08:16] <winnipegm> ok
[08:16] <linux_mafia> _|Imanewbie|_, yes
[08:16] <gangalino> Thanks for the k3b help?
[08:16] <gangalino> !
[08:16] <winnipegm> still nothing in there
[08:17] <linux_mafia> hang on, sda1 ? is it a scsi or usb drive?
[08:17] <winnipegm> its sata
[08:19] <linux_mafia> winnipegm, and no errors or nothing when you do that
[08:19] <winnipegm> i had no errors
[08:19] <winnipegm> i just dont see anything
[08:19] <Zendrew> I need some help configuring a logitech scroll-wheel mouse with my Sawtotth G4. The mouse cursor is stuck in the corner. XF86Config-4 seems fine, I've goggled this to death and searched the Wiki.  Anyone have a hint?
[08:20] <ogra> winnipegm: to look if its monted or not, type: mount
[08:20] <Zendrew> goggled=googled
[08:20] <winnipegm> /dev/hdb1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[08:20] <winnipegm> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[08:20] <winnipegm> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[08:20] <winnipegm> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[08:20] <winnipegm> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[08:20] <winnipegm> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[08:20] <winnipegm> root@S010600112f8b7485:/mnt/sda1 #
[08:20] <JackandJohn> paulproteus; Thanks - it's not working, but I think it's a permission problem
[08:20] <potato_head> Hmmm, ubuntu keeps forgetting the DNS servers that I enter 'netwok settings'. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[08:21] <ogra> winnipegm: first run: sudo mkdir /mnt/movies
[08:21] <pisuke> potato_head, maybe editing /etc/resolv.conf by hand ;-)
[08:21] <winnipegm> ok
[08:21] <winnipegm> done
[08:22] <ogra> winnipegm: mount -t ntfs -o ro,umask=000 /dev/sda1 /mnt/movies
[08:22] <potato_head> pisuke: thanks. I can never remember the names of the appropriate conf files :)
[08:22] <linux_mafia> potato_head, you use dhcp?
[08:22] <thomas_> ;-(( the route seems to be goog, device manager recognize a realtek 8139 ;(
[08:22] <thomas_> -g +d
[08:22] <winnipegm> woot
[08:22] <winnipegm> that worked
[08:22] <winnipegm> :D
[08:22] <potato_head> linux_mafia: no, because my router sets the DNS as itself, and that doesn't seem to be working...
[08:22] <winnipegm> thanks dude
[08:22] <winnipegm> :d
[08:22] <winnipegm> :D
[08:23] <ogra> :)
[08:23] <Zugot> i think imma try arch linux today as well
[08:23] <winnipegm> winnipegm@S010600112f8b7485:~ $ apt-get totem-xine
[08:23] <winnipegm> E: Invalid operation totem-xine
[08:23] <Zugot> apt-get install totem-xine
[08:23] <thomas_> my solution : crash my shit laptop :-(
[08:23] <winnipegm> k
[08:24] <potato_head> pisuke: I guess if I take away write permission on resolv.conf it'll stick?
[08:24] <NewComer> Zugot: if u gonna try archlinux then give it some time, it's clean and simple
[08:24] <ogra> thomas_: you see the ip ? in ifconfig ?
[08:24] <Zugot> ah
[08:24] <Zugot> or i may just go back to gentoo
[08:24] <thomas_> ogra, yes.
[08:24] <winnipegm> root@S010600112f8b7485:/mnt/sda1 # apt-get install totem-xine
[08:24] <winnipegm> Reading Package Lists... Done
[08:24] <winnipegm> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[08:24] <winnipegm> Package totem-xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:24] <winnipegm> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:24] <winnipegm> is only available from another source
[08:24] <ogra> thomas_: adn you couldnt ping the ip ?
[08:24] <winnipegm> E: Package totem-xine has no installation candidate
[08:25] <pisuke> potato_head, you should configure dhcp-client to not update /etc/resolv.conf but can't remember how its done
[08:25] <ogra> winnipegm: dont post this much in here..... you must enable universe
[08:25] <thomas_> ogra.. I don't try .. I try immediatly ! :) back in 2 mins :)
[08:25] <winnipegm> ok
[08:25] <winnipegm> sorruies
[08:25] <winnipegm> how i enable dat?
[08:25] <ogra>  winnipegm: look here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto
[08:25] <Zugot> winnipegm, view the restrictedformat wiki and make the changes to your sources.list
[08:25] <winnipegm> ok
[08:26] <stuNNed_> ok i have working X but can't get agp to initialize
[08:26] <stuNNed_> possibly due to unstable xorg?
[08:27] <pisuke> potato_head, have a look here /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[08:27] <pisuke> potato_head, man dhclient.conf
[08:28] <ogra> HWolf: whats wrong ?
[08:29] <HWolf> ogra, no sound. Can't open resource for writing errors, and no clue how to fix it.
[08:29] <potato_head> pisuke: will do :)
[08:29] <ogra> HWolf: show the youtput of: lsmod|grep snd   in #flood
[08:30] <potato_head> Hmmm, I think taking a bit of time to set up my router might be handy as well :) What's a reasonable dhcp lease time?
[08:31] <JackandJohn> internal? 30 days
[08:31] <ogra> HWolf: a tv card ?
[08:31] <linux_mafia> man, awake for 2 days is soul destroying
[08:31] <Zendrew> Is there a config file I should be looking at re" my lgoitech mouse other than XF86Config? IThe nouse is stuck in the corner. THe only info I find mentions gpm (not running, AFAIK) and the XF86COnfig file. Anyone?
[08:32] <JackandJohn> do you have any other input devices?
[08:32] <JackandJohn> tablet, for example
[08:32] <Zendrew> ah--I do have a bunch of stuff on a USB hub that I clean forgot about. Could these be fouling me up?
[08:32] <HWolf> orga, yeah, pinnacle pctv rage
[08:32] <HWolf> rave
[08:32] <Zendrew> Yep--tablet
[08:33] <JackandJohn> Check the stylus
[08:33] <ogra> HWolf: do you get sound from it ?
[08:33] <JackandJohn> I've done it where the stylus gets pushed just close enough.. drives me nuts
[08:34] <thomas_> ogra, i'm back :)
[08:34] <Zendrew> JackandJohn: A little embarrassed and very relieved--that was it!
[08:34] <thomas_> I can ping <IP_ADDRESS> (my own eth0)
[08:34] <Zendrew> Man, I thought I was going nuts. . .
[08:34] <JackandJohn> Zendrew - Good thing we fond it now instead of 4 hours from now ;)
[08:35] <stuNNed_> can i run xfree86 in hoary?
[08:35] <ogra> thomas_: thats great, so the driver seems to work fine....
[08:35] <Zendrew> JackandJohn: Thanks again. Now I can move on to something else instead of obsessing about this. Take care. Thanks a million. . .
[08:35] <JackandJohn> np
[08:36] <thomas_> ogra,  :) so what can't I change my IP ?
[08:36] <JackandJohn> ok, what do I have to do to get totem working with mp3??
[08:38] <linux_mafia> JackandJohn, read the channel topic bro
[08:38] <ogra> thomas_: the ip stack looks ok too, if the ping is replied....
[08:39] <JackandJohn> Yeah, I know that.. and everything looks to be in, but just totem wont work... I boot from the livecd, I can stream files through an ftp server - I have everything done that I read up on, and totem refuses
[08:39] <JackandJohn> sorry, that totally sounds more assholio than I meant it :)
[08:40] <Z0l> hello
[08:40] <Z0l> could somebody plz tell me what provides the db_get function?
[08:41] <ogra> thomas_: did you try to ping your router already ?
[08:41] <linux_mafia> JackandJohn, the only thing you need is gstreamer-mad
[08:42] <thomas_> ogra, yes, .. but ping unreachable
[08:42] <JackandJohn> hrm.. then maybe I'm having a different issue.. is there a log for totem?
[08:42] <ogra> thomas_: what did the route command exactly show ?
[08:47] <stevecarter> Hi. I am having trouble seeting up ndiswrapper - I am a complete noobie to ubuntu - the recent HowTo states that I should install the ndiswrapper-utils package but I have no idea where I can get that from - it does not appear in the list of installed packages. Can anyone help please?
[08:48] <elmaya> install it for the .tar.gz
[08:48] <elmaya> its easy
[08:49] <stevecarter> elmaya: are you responding to me?
[08:49] <elmaya> yup
[08:50] <stevecarter> OK - so what does "install it for the .tar.gz" mean?
[08:50] <wezzer> why on earth does win2k installer format the whole hard drive when I order it to format only 30 GB partition?
[08:50] <wezzer> yes. I know, microshit made it to do so
[08:51] <ogra> stevecarter: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-10-07.7773155363/
[08:51] <elmaya> it means get the ndiswrapper package from sourceforge..do a google search for it.. uncompress it and compile it
[08:52] <potato_head_> to compile ndiswrapper from source, you may need to install the appropriate linux-headers...
[08:53] <elmaya> true
[08:53] <stevecarter> elmaya:I have got that package from sourceforge and have uncompressed it, but have no idea how to compile it.
[08:54] <potato_head_> stevercarter: go to the directory where you downloaded it to
[08:54] <elmaya> read the readme..
[08:54] <stevecarter> ogra:Yes - I found that but it says I have to install the ndiswrapper-utils package, and that is what I am stuck with.
[08:54] <FunnyLookinHat> Question: If I have used ndis and correctly installed the right driver for my wireless NIC, what else do I have to do to get my Ubuntu desktop to recognize it and be able to monitor it's signal?
[08:54] <ogra> stevecarter: why ?
[08:54] <ogra> stevecarter: whats the prob ?
[08:54] <potato_head_> FunnyLookinHat: have you got a wlan0?
[08:55] <FunnyLookinHat> potato_head_: if that's a config file, I don't think so... if so, it's not configured
[08:55] <stevecarter> ogra: becaue I am a complete novice with this.
[08:55] <elmaya> i've found that that the applet for wireless is useless
[08:56] <stevecarter> elmaya:the README points to a website and gives a load of instructions that mean absolutely nothing to me.
[08:56] <potato_head_> FunnyLookingHat: goto 'computer >> system con >> networking', and click add
[08:56] <elmaya> stevecarter, do a make and then make install
[08:56] <allanon_> i feel a bit stupid asking this, but... just installed ubuntu on my girlfriends laptop, and everything works fine, including wireless. but how do I change language of the gnome desktop? right now it is English, but my gf wants hers in dutch, and I mine in Norwegian. Cant seem to find the right control panel
[08:56] <ogra> stevecarter: use synaptic to install and remove packages:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto
[08:56] <ogra> elmaya: there is a precompiled, supported package.....
[08:56] <elmaya> oh
[08:57] <IBMAptiva> Potato_head: You remember me? It didnt work. Now the install freezes before it starts
[08:57] <elmaya> but compiling is easy
[08:57] <FunnyLookinHat> potato_head_: No wireless devices are available in the pull-down menu...
[08:57] <potato_head_> IBMAptiva: yeah, I remember. Sorry :(
[08:57] <FunnyLookinHat> but NDIS says that the driver is installed and the hardware is present.
[08:57] <stevecarter> ogra:Yes - I know about Synaptic but there is no mention of ndiswrapper-utils in the list of available packages.
[08:57] <ogra> elmaya: but not a task to do on ubuntu
[08:57] <ogra> stevecarter: its on the cd
[08:57] <elmaya> why?
[08:57] <IBMAptiva> Potato_head_: Thanx anyways. Any other suggestions?
[08:58] <stevecarter> ogra:On the CD? OK I'll have a look for it.
[08:58] <potato_head_> FunnyLookinHat: Did you do 'modprobe ndiswrapper'?
[08:58] <FunnyLookinHat> hmm...  nope
[08:59] <ogra> elmaya: because the basic thngs are very fine worked out and tested...nocody can support if you break the standards
[08:59] <elmaya> hehehe
[08:59] <ogra> FunnyLookinHat: you used the ubuntu ndiswrapper package  ?
[08:59] <elmaya> breaking thins is fun
[08:59] <elmaya> things
[08:59] <FunnyLookinHat> ogra: yes, got it through synaptic
[09:00] <ogra> FunnyLookinHat: and followed the howto ?
[09:00] <FunnyLookinHat> Ok. I ran sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and it gave no errors...
[09:00] <FunnyLookinHat> ogra: There is a how-to?
[09:00] <stevecarter> ogra:Any idea where on the CD - off the top of your head?
[09:01] <ogra> FunnyLookinHat http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-10-07.7773155363/
[09:01] <ogra> stevecarter: enable the cd source in synaptic and hit reload, then you are able to install it with synaptic
[09:02] <JackandJohn> "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts" < How do I resolve this mostly greek error? even a readme link would work :)
[09:03] <ogra> JackandJohn: why dont you use nautilus ? is it important to ount systemwide ?
[09:03] <FunnyLookinHat> ogra: Thanks man
[09:03] <ogra> :)
[09:03] <FunnyLookinHat> I'll let you know if it works out
[09:03] <FunnyLookinHat> ooh, new kernel!
[09:03] <Tomcat_> JackandJohn: If you want users to mount SMB shares, you need to make the smb mount command "setuid root"... that means that *any* user that can run the command will run it as root.
[09:03] <JackandJohn> ogra; I'm in gnome and just on my home comp
[09:04] <Tomcat_> JackandJohn: I had this same problem yesterday... I don't want users to run smbmnt as root, so I stayed with "only root can mount smb shares" :I
[09:04] <JackandJohn> Tomcat_ - Would that resolve the issue? (even though it opens security holes)
[09:04] <ogra> JackandJohn: nautilus has a connect to server dialog in the file menu
[09:04] <IBMAptiva> I have booting trouble... anyone know how to solve it.
[09:04] <Tomcat_> JackandJohn: Yes, should solve it.
[09:05] <JackandJohn> Tomcat_; Thank you, I'll try it
[09:05] <Tomcat_> JackandJohn: Just be very careful who has access to smbmount...
[09:05] <allanon_> How can I change my (English) ubuntu desktop to Norwegian?
[09:05] <JackandJohn> ogra; Thanks for the tip; if I can't get it worked out the other way, I'll try and run nautilus (though I don't know what kind of gnome support it has)
[09:05] <FunnyLookinHat> ogra: what the heck?  all of a sudden like 2 minutes after I ran sudo modprobe ndiswrapper the wireless connection was found and seems to work.  Thanks  ;)
[09:05] <JackandJohn> Tomcat_; Of course :) Thankfully this is my computer only
[09:06] <IBMAptiva> allanon_: You really dont want it in norwegian. The norwegian is horrible, and most of it is even danish...
[09:06] <ogra> JackandJohn: nautilus is the gnome filemanager ;)
[09:06] <ogra> FunnyLookinHat:  :)
[09:06] <JackandJohn> Tomcat_; what command would I use? setuid root smbmnt?
[09:06] <JackandJohn> ogra; lol
[09:06] <ogra> :)
[09:06] <Tomcat_> Mh... anybody can answer this?
[09:07] <allanon_> IBMAptiva, well at least my gf wants her login to have a dutch default. you know how to do it?
[09:07] <allanon_> in KDE it is just to select language in the Kontrol Centre, but in Gnome I am confused.
[09:07] <wezzer> allanon_: do you use gdm?
[09:07] <ogra> allanon_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:07] <allanon_> I assume so, everything is default. just installed.
[09:07] <allanon_> ogra, thanks.
[09:07] <wezzer> in gdm you can change the language
[09:07] <ogra> allanon_: then you can select them in gdm
[09:08] <allanon_> aha.
[09:08] <wezzer> it's in the lower left corner
[09:08] <|icu|> Does the default totem setup work for anyone. It's both completely broken in both warty and hoary for me.
[09:08] <allanon_> get it. thanks.
[09:08] <ogra> allanon_: make sure to pick all langs you want in the dpkg script
[09:09] <caro> hello
[09:10] <caro> i've just installed the ubuntu distro
[09:10] <thenuke> Hlo
[09:10] <ogra> caro: good move :)
[09:10] <caro> and i'm facing a small problem
[09:10] <caro> ogra, :)
[09:10] <caro> if i want to install a package, i use synaptic, from the menu
[09:10] <allanon_> hm, hm, it is like four different language packs only for nl_nl.
[09:11] <caro> it asks me the root password and i use my own password
[09:11] <caro> it works
[09:11] <caro> but
[09:11] <caro> if I do a 'su'
[09:11] <allanon_> caro: Yeah, that was my problem too. I select packages, but there is no "Go" or "Apply" to click
[09:11] <caro> with my password
[09:11] <caro> it does not work
[09:11] <jiyuu0> su need root password
[09:11] <allanon_> there is no root user, apparantly
[09:11] <ogra> caro: try sudo
[09:11] <ogra> caro: not su
[09:11] <caro> oh
[09:11] <ogra> caro: or the root shell from the menu
[09:11] <JackandJohn> there is a root user
[09:12] <JackandJohn> just do sudo passwd root
[09:12] <|icu|> allanon "sudo passwd -u root"
[09:12] <JackandJohn> and change the password
[09:12] <JackandJohn> :)
[09:12] <wasabi> Why would you want a root user?
[09:12] <ogra> JackandJohn: but you dont gain anything with a root pw
[09:12] <allanon_> I understand apt better than synaptic :}
[09:12] <borgmeister> where can i get libcurses and libncurses?
[09:12] <caro> ok, thanks
[09:12] <JackandJohn> ogra; you gain a know root password
[09:12] <JackandJohn> known, that is
[09:12] <winnipegm> anyone have a problem getting sound
[09:12] <ogra> JackandJohn: what for ? all tools use sudo
[09:13] <JackandJohn> all the ubuntu tools do, yes
[09:13] <JackandJohn> ogra; if you go outside of that, some need a root password
[09:13] <ogra> JackandJohn: nope
[09:13] <jiyuu0> i think the most common questioned ask in ubuntu is "what is the root password?"
[09:13] <wasabi> ogra, nope. Use sudo.
[09:13] <JackandJohn> if you know what you are doing, it doesn;t matter, but I personally dont ;)
[09:13] <wasabi> Oops.
[09:13] <wasabi> JackandJohn, nope, use sudo.
[09:14] <Earthen> can someone help with gdm it will not start for me
[09:14] <ogra> wasabi :)
[09:14] <thenuke> ogra: sudo su if you really want to be a root
[09:14] <wasabi> sudo -s for a shell.
[09:14] <JackandJohn> sudo su < that's awesome
[09:14] <wasabi> sudo -s is a bit smarter. ;)
[09:15] <thenuke> why is that -s better
[09:15] <JackandJohn> just the syntax and what it implies is beauty
[09:15] <ogra> JackandJohn: did you read this the wiki page, sudo is way better: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:15] <winnipegm> i have audigy zs 2
[09:15] <zooko> Greetings, People of Ubuntu!
[09:15] <winnipegm> and i see my xmms playing music
[09:15] <winnipegm> but no sound
[09:15] <JackandJohn> ogra; I don't disagree - it most definately is
[09:15] <farruinn> ogra, that page should be "reuquired reading" for a discussion like this
[09:15] <ogra> :)
[09:15] <FunnyLookinHat> ogra: When I click to activate the connection the box will get checked for about 3 seconds then get unchecked again under "Active" column.
[09:16] <ogra> farruinn: thats why i always drop it in at some point *g*
[09:16] <Earthen> I have and old computer with a S3 64 3d run fine with live cd but not after installing
[09:16] <ogra> FunnyLookinHat: did you edit the file as desribed ?
[09:16] <farruinn> I had just copied the url when you posted it =)
[09:16] <ogra> +c
[09:16] <FunnyLookinHat> yeah...  weird, huh?
[09:17] <ogra> FunnyLookinHat: and step 7 in the howto ?
[09:17] <winnipegm> sound is broken any have troubles with creativeE????????
[09:17] <eyal> hello friends !
[09:17] <farruinn> Gnome question: is there a setting in Nautilus or something so that when I insert a CD a new Nautiuls window doesn't open automatically?  I love the fact that the disc is automounted, but windows popping up without my bidding is annoying
[09:17] <FunnyLookinHat> ogra: hold on, i'll double check my work
[09:18] <bancus> I'm trying to use ndiswrapper with my 802.11 card, but it looks like ubuntu is trying to load prism54 before I get a chance to load ndiswrapper. Is there any way I can say "hey, don't use prism54 at all"?
[09:18] <ogra> farruinn: Computer->Desktop Settings->Removable...
[09:18] <farruinn> thanks
[09:18] <stephecarter> ogra: I seem to have got disconnected. Did you get my last message?
[09:18] <daniels> bancus: why do you want ndiswrapper on a prism54 card?
[09:18] <winnipegm> i have two sound cards will that cause a conflic of sound???????????????
[09:18] <bancus> daniels: it's a newer prism, which isn't yet supported by prism54
[09:18] <winnipegm> one 5.1 soundblaster live
[09:18] <winnipegm> and
[09:18] <bancus> the equiv to a winmodem
[09:19] <eyal> why i dont have administrator permissions i couldn't delete a folder
[09:19] <winnipegm> audigy zs2
[09:19] <bancus> prism still thinks that it can do it, but it fails miserably
[09:19] <potato_head> eyal: sudo it.
[09:19] <farruinn> winnipegm, a good way to check is to reboot with only one of them in
[09:19] <eyal> how do u delte folder ?
[09:19] <eyal> sude ???
[09:19] <winnipegm> ok
[09:19] <eyal> sudo
[09:19] <potato_head> eyal: what are you trying to delete/
[09:19] <eyal> a folder i created by mistake
[09:19] <ogra> daniels: because nowadays the answer on wlan probs seems to be ndiswrapper....last week i saw someone trying it with a orinoco silver....
[09:20] <ogra> daniels: weird eh ?
[09:20] <ogra> stephecarter: nope
[09:20] <JackandJohn> is there a GUI way of editing the gnome menu?
[09:20] <bancus> ogra: I'm telling you, the SMC2802 V2 does *not* work with ndiswrapper
[09:20] <eyal> why everything need to be done thregh SUDO ?
[09:20] <bancus> It has a Prism Frisbee or Javelin or some such
[09:20] <Tomcat_> JackandJohn: applicatioms:/// in nautilus
[09:21] <bancus> It requires more of the work to be done in the driver.
[09:21] <ogra> bancus: and not supported by the  prism driver ?
[09:21] <stephecarter> ogra: OK - I did what you suggested - set synaptic to use the CD - reloaded synaptic, but there is still no sign of anythin vaguely like ndis in the list of available packages. What have I done wrong?
[09:21] <bancus> ogra: not yet
[09:21] <JackandJohn> Tomcat_; you rock gnome :)
[09:21] <bancus> ogra: They say that conectiva said they were going to help them out, but nothing has come of it yet.
[09:21] <potato_head> stephecarter: do $less /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:21] <ogra> stephecarter: used the search finction ? i know its on the cd
[09:22] <Tomcat_> JackandJohn: Not really... you only seem to run into problems I already had. :)
[09:22] <zooko> my wife just got e2fs errs on boot on old debian and had to remember her root passwd
[09:22] <JackandJohn> maybe you should just make a faq, then I will already have all my problems answered when I ask them ;)
[09:23] <zooko> i juhst gotprism54 wworking on warty
[09:23] <stephecarter> ogra: i have used the search function, and setting ndis as the search term it finds absolutely zilch :-(
[09:23] <eyal> sorry closed by mistake
[09:23] <ogra> JackandJohn: in nautils type ctrl-L and enter applications:// in the popup
[09:23] <CaseysZ28_> does anyone have ut2004 running?
[09:23] <bancus> so is there to way to tell prism54 to go away?
[09:23] <eyal> What can a newbie like me in linux can do to learn how to get along with it ?
[09:23] <CaseysZ28_> i am getting some errors and can't figure them out
[09:24] <ogra> bancus: /etc/hotplug/blacklist ?
[09:24] <bancus> do I have to compile my own kernel and disable it there or something?
[09:24] <bancus> ogra: Hm.
[09:24] <wasabi> eyal, kind of hard to answer that without knowing what you want to do.
[09:24] <eyal> wasabi can i talk with u private ?
[09:24] <bancus> ogra: is it in the kernel, or is it a module?
[09:24] <thoreauputic> eyal: start by reading the FAQ and wiki on the ubuntu site
[09:24] <wasabi> eyal, hwy?
[09:24] <wasabi> why
[09:25] <ogra> bancus: no network card drivers in the kernel
[09:25] <bancus> ogra: good idea
[09:25] <bancus> thanks
[09:25] <bancus> I'll give it a shot
[09:25] <eyal> cause i dont want to disturb other ppl here with questions
[09:25] <zooko> why make prism54 go away?
[09:25] <ogra> stephecarter: look anually in the pool dir it is there anywhere
[09:25] <eyal> anyway
[09:25] <thoreauputic> eyal: the idea is everyone learns from the answers
[09:25] <wasabi> eyal, what's what the people here are for.
[09:25] <eyal> ok :)
[09:25] <ogra> manually
[09:26] <eyal> look i dont under stand what is sudo and why every operation i need to do using it
[09:26] <stephecarter> ogra: Yes - I thought you did not expect me to wait a year :-)
[09:26] <wasabi> eyal, sudo runs the command with root privledges.
[09:26] <JackandJohn> Doh - I try to add a launcher to applications, and it just vanishes like it's successful, but nothing is added
[09:27] <wasabi> eyal, if you don't need root privs, don't use sudo.
[09:27] <ogra> JackandJohn: try ctrl-R
[09:27] <JackandJohn> Did do
[09:27] <JackandJohn> :(
[09:27] <eyal> so every folder i want to erase or every extracting of .h and .c and everything need to be done threw Terminal window ??
[09:27] <wasabi> eyal, eh?
[09:27] <JackandJohn> it would error if I didn;t have permission, right?
[09:27] <ogra> JackandJohn: this only works if you never ran nautilus with root rights afaik....
[09:27] <thoreauputic> eyal: if you need it constantly, you are messing with your system unnecessarily
[09:27] <wasabi> eyal, i dont understand the question.
[09:28] <JackandJohn> ogra; odd.. but as far as I know I havn't
[09:28] <eyal> ok i tried for example to be able of playing mp3s
[09:28] <ogra> JackandJohn: it also doesnt appear in the menu ?
[09:28] <wasabi> eyal, okay, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:28] <eyal> i was there
[09:28] <stephecarter> ogra:Looking in CD/pool/main/n it's not there. Am I looking in the right place?
[09:28] <wasabi> So, you need to install a few peices of software on the system. Installing that requires root.
[09:28] <JackandJohn> ogra; nope
[09:28] <wasabi> eyal, using it doesn't.
[09:28] <borgmeister> anybody managed to install kismet from source?
[09:29] <CaseysZ28_> anybody play unreal tournament 2004?
[09:29] <eyal> and eventually i got list of instrudtions just to install one Mdplayer
[09:29] <wasabi> mplayer.
[09:29] <wasabi> For mpegs.
[09:29] <eyal> yeah :)
[09:29] <wasabi> Not mp3's.
[09:29] <borgmeister> i havent got libncurses or libcurses
[09:29] <JackandJohn> ogra; nope
[09:29] <borgmeister> and i havent a clue how to get them
[09:29] <eyal> ok and what do i do after i dl the software ?
[09:30] <wasabi> eyal, you aren't really supose to "dl" anything.
[09:30] <eyal> ok
[09:30] <wasabi> eyal, you simply need to install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:30] <quitte> where can i find the sources of ubuntu packages?
[09:30] <thomas7332> ogra, sorry, I'm back now
[09:30] <wasabi> Quote from the page: However, you can still play your MP3s with rhythmbox if you install gstreamer0.8-mad (you need to add the universe repository). LAME can be used to encode MP3s if you install gstreamer0.8-lame.
[09:30] <FunnyLookinHat> ogra: What is the format/variable that I should enter for the part entitled wireless_keymode if I am using 128 bit encrip?   128?
[09:31] <eyal> what is it ?
[09:31] <wasabi> That quote provides a link on how to add that repository with synaptic.
[09:31] <farruinn> borgmeister, apt-cache search libcurses and libncurses might be a start
[09:31] <wasabi> gstreamer-mad is the MAD plugin for gstreamer, and MAD is a mp3 decoder.
[09:31] <wasabi> gstreamer is a media framework
[09:31] <flamesrock> hi, I'm wondering if someone can help me?
[09:31] <wasabi> eyal, you shouldn't have to use the terminal for any of this.
[09:32] <flamesrock> I can't find any information on how to upgrade to a newer verion of alsa
[09:32] <eyal> so wasabi where do i get this gstreamer ?
[09:32] <wasabi> flamesrock, why?
[09:32] <wasabi> eyal, you already have it.
[09:32] <wasabi> eyal, just follow the directions on how to install the MAD plugin.
[09:32] <wasabi> THey are on the RestrictedFormats page.
[09:32] <borgmeister> farruin: it says their available, and that i have the latest version
[09:33] <flamesrock> well, my sound card is oem, and just recently supported by the newest alsa
[09:33] <quitte> i tried both, the faq and the wiki, but can't find out were to get the sources of hoary.
[09:33] <eyal> ok...
[09:33] <eyal> ill try this 10x
[09:33] <borgmeister> farruinn: but kismet says they are missing when i ./configure
[09:33] <wasabi> eyal, do you see the portion of this page im refering to?
[09:33] <farruinn> could be a path issue I suppose, or some other environment variable
[09:33] <wasabi> borgmeister, you need libcurses-dev
[09:34] <wasabi> borgmeister, the development package. IT contains the C headers used to build against.
[09:34] <wasabi> The development portions of packages are split out, because the vast majority don't need them.
[09:34] <eyal> wasabi i dont see this portion
[09:34] <ogra> stephecarter: run: sudo apt-cdrom
[09:34] <wasabi> eyal, on that page, there is a MP3 and Windows Media Audio section.
[09:34] <ogra> stephecarter: in a terminal
[09:35] <ogra> stephecarter: it should provide the cd in synaptic then
[09:35] <FunnyLookinHat> ogra: What is the format/variable that I should enter for the part entitled wireless_keymode if I am using 128 bit encrip?   128?
[09:35] <eyal> on what page wasabi on restricted page ?
[09:35] <borgmeister> wasabi: whats the devel package called?
[09:35] <wasabi> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats, scroll down to MP3 and Windows Media Audio
[09:35] <wasabi> borgmeister, libcurses-dev.
[09:36] <eyal> i c ogg vorbis
[09:36] <borgmeister> wasabi: thats in the universe repos?
[09:36] <eyal> what do i do there ?
[09:36] <wasabi> eyal, um. It's only two sentences. You just have to read them.
[09:36] <FunnyLookinHat> iface wlan0 inet static
[09:36] <FunnyLookinHat>         address <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:36] <FunnyLookinHat>         netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:36] <FunnyLookinHat>         network <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:36] <FunnyLookinHat>         broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:36] <winnipegm> woot
[09:36] <FunnyLookinHat>         gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:36] <winnipegm> i have sound :F
[09:36] <FunnyLookinHat>         wireless_essid funnyhat
[09:36] <winnipegm> :D
[09:37] <FunnyLookinHat>         wireless_key 363BD682F0DD7A852FD38C40F9
[09:37] <eyal> oh ok
[09:37] <FunnyLookinHat>         wireless_keymode 128
[09:37] <FunnyLookinHat>         dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:37] <FunnyLookinHat>         name Wireless LAN card
[09:37] <FunnyLookinHat> Oooh woops
[09:37] <FunnyLookinHat> Sorry everyone.
[09:37] <wasabi> borgmeister, I am not sure.
[09:37] <FunnyLookinHat> Ok wow, so I'm an idiot.
[09:37] <Muskrat_24> hrm
[09:37] <wasabi> borgmeister, i ment libncurses-dev
[09:37] <wasabi> Sorry.
[09:37] <ogra>  wireless_keymode Managed
[09:37] <ogra>  wireless_keymode Ad-Hoc
[09:38] <FunnyLookinHat> oooh, ok
[09:38] <ogra> FunnyLookinHat: i think
[09:38] <FunnyLookinHat> ogra: Managed - invalid arg
[09:38] <borgmeister> wasabi: no problem, without you, id be a few steps back from here >.<
[09:39] <ogra> FunnyLookinHat: no idea, my card doesnt require this
[09:39] <linux_mafia> i think its actually libncurses5-dev, unless libncurses is a meta-package
[09:39] <FunnyLookinHat> ogra: Ok.
[09:40] <s0cks> ogra : You at the place with thingy?
[09:40] <ogra> s0cks: thingy ?
[09:40] <s0cks> The people
[09:41] <ogra> s0cks: i fly tomorrow
[09:41] <stephecarter> ogra: HELP - Now when I open synaptic i get an number of error messages and there is nothing in any of the lists!
[09:41] <wasabi> me->away
[09:41] <ogra> stephecarter:
[09:41] <ogra> stephecarter: argh
[09:42] <zooko> I don't know how to read irc backlog with this client, so if you said something to me and you want me to respond, you'll have to repeat it.
[09:42] <zooko> I have no wireless keywords for my 802.11g prism54 card right now.
[09:42] <zooko> Seems to work.
[09:43] <winnipegm> how can i edit sources.list????
[09:44] <NUAMI> <--- New to Linux,   Using the Live CD... my monitor goes out of timing on boot.. any way to fix?
[09:44] <ogra> winnipegm: do it in synaptic
[09:44] <NUAMI> the rate was H .1  V 197.sumthin
[09:45] <sval> winnipegm, vi /etc/apt/source.list
[09:45] <ogra> sval: not vi please
[09:45] <sval> winnipegm, with admin privileges
[09:45] <winnipegm> ok
[09:45] <sval> winnipegm, emacs, gedit, nano, ...
[09:45] <ogra> :)
[09:46] <NUAMI> is my text reaching server?
[09:46] <stephecarter> ping
[09:46] <eyal> wasabi !
[09:46] <eyal> wasabi i got a lot of new packages it think
[09:47] <stephecarter> ogra: A reboot has restored equilibrium - but still no sin of ndiswrapper.
[09:47] <SvenG> ogra:  Xemacs, jedenfalls, joe, jove; bingo, crisp, ee, easyedit, fte, kate, kedit,kile, kwrite, lyx, mcedit, medit, mined, nano, nedit, pico, qedit, slim,textpad, the, tse, vde, wily...
[09:47] <winnipegm> done
[09:47] <winnipegm> :)
[09:47] <ogra> SvenG: jedenfalls ?
[09:47] <winnipegm> nano is awsome
[09:47] <winnipegm> :)
[09:47] <winnipegm> used it a lil bit in gentoo
[09:48] <ogra> stephecarter: but your repositorys are ok again ?
[09:48] <NUAMI> HELLO?
[09:48] <s0cks> ogra : ?
[09:48] <ogra> s0cks: ?
[09:48] <winnipegm> damnit
[09:48] <winnipegm> totem-xine:
[09:48] <winnipegm>  Depends: libxine1 but it is not installable
[09:48] <SvenG> ogra: "jed" is expanded to "jedenfalls" by my irc client (irssi) automatically. it's an abbreviation.  so - i meant "jed".  good editor, too.
[09:48] <winnipegm> still getting this error
[09:48] <winnipegm> i edited that file
[09:48] <s0cks> ogra : You at the conferance?
[09:48] <winnipegm> 2nd and 3rd line
[09:49] <ogra> SvenG: lol...
[09:49] <stephecarter> ogra: Yes - there is only one which is checked - cdrom:[ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ etc.
[09:49] <ogra> SvenG: so outen sich deutsche ungewollt hehe
[09:49] <SvenG> so many abbreviations - and just so many exception.s ;-)
[09:49] <ogra> stephecarter: the others are gone ?
[09:49] <stephecarter> ogra: No - they are there but unchecked.
[09:50] <SvenG> ogra: yeah... me kraut.  you "schote"?
[09:50] <CaseysZ28_> Crash information will be saved to your logfile.
[09:50] <CaseysZ28_> X Error of failed request:  BadColor (invalid Colormap parameter)
[09:50] <CaseysZ28_>   Major opcode of failed request:  79 (X_FreeColormap)
[09:50] <CaseysZ28_>   Resource id in failed request:  0x260000c
[09:50] <CaseysZ28_>   Serial number of failed request:  114
[09:50] <ogra> SvenG: hehe
[09:50] <CaseysZ28_>   Current serial number in output stream:  116
[09:50] <CaseysZ28_> how do i fix that error?
[09:50] <ogra> stephecarter: ok, i was a bit worried.....
[09:50] <sval> winnipegm, just ask
[09:50] <SvenG> CaseysZ28_: hey - dont paste X error into this channel, ok?  my heart stopped there for a second!
[09:50] <stephecarter> ogra: You and me both :-)
[09:50] <eyal> how do i play avi ?
[09:50] <ogra> CaseysZ28_: please post such things in #flood
[09:50] <sval> winnipegm, and ?
[09:50] <winnipegm> totem-xine:
[09:50] <winnipegm>  Depends: libxine1 but it is not installable
[09:50] <winnipegm> i get this
[09:50] <SvenG> eyal: mplayer <file>
[09:52] <winnipegm> oh shit
[09:52] <winnipegm> its working now
[09:52] <winnipegm> nm :D
[09:52] <winnipegm> had to reload
[09:52] <winnipegm> after
[09:52] <ogra> stephecarter: are you capable to ransfer data to the machine ? so you could just download the ndiwrapper package
[09:52] <ogra> +s
[09:52] <winnipegm> i edited that file
[09:52] <stephecarter> ogra: Should I enable any of the others?
[09:53] <ogra> stephecarter: useless without network.... but later, yes.... and disable the cdrom again
[09:53] <winnipegm> woot i can play dvdr now :d
[09:53] <NUAMI> hello
[09:53] <NUAMI> is my text being seen now?
[09:54] <winnipegm> oh gawd
[09:54] <stephecarter> ogra: OK - I can replace the Wireless card with an ethernet card and get internet connection that way - should I be able to find ndiswrapper that way?
[09:54] <winnipegm> does totem-xine support dts or dolby digital?
[09:55] <NUAMI> <--- Needs help can anyone hear me?
[09:55] <ernesto> hello all, great ubuntu community :D
[09:55] <ogra> stephecarter: yep
[09:55] <NUAMI> funny no one talks to me ... great community    huh
[09:56] <ogra> s0cks: hmm, yes. i will be there ....
[09:56] <ernesto> I just installed Samba on my ubuntu box...is there a way to integrate samba with nautilus, a la Konqueror smb:// etc?
[09:56] <eyal> SvenG i hear the avi and dont see it
[09:56] <slowhog> hello, gnome-control-center does not have file type applet, how do I install it?
[09:56] <daniel1404> Hi everyone, can someone help me with NVIDIA drivers on Ubuntu using XOrg ?
[09:57] <farruinn> NUAMI, usually when you aren't getting an answer then that means people don't know how to fix your problem
[09:57] <farruinn> but comments like that are just annoying
[09:57] <scizzo> hmmm
[09:57] <scizzo> how do I get mplayer and such to play my files
[09:57] <farruinn> and make it even less likely that you'll get an answer
[09:57] <scizzo> I don't get this
[09:57] <scizzo> all the formats I have are not being played in it
[09:57] <stephecarter> ogra: Thanx - I'll log on again when I have done that.
[09:58] <sval> scizzo, just add the multiverse repository in source.list
[09:58] <ogra> stephecarter: i'll be away then....
[09:58] <Ng> scizzo: look up the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[09:58] <NUAMI> farruinn when someone asks if the text is making it to server and NOT ONE PERSON responds   fuck ur community
[09:58] <ernesto> I just installed Samba on my ubuntu box...is there a way to integrate samba with nautilus, a la Konqueror smb:// etc?
[09:58] <Ng> scizzo: on the ubuntu website, that is
[09:58] <sval> scizzo, and download all the codec on the mplayer website
[09:58] <NUAMI> and this open OS pos
[09:58] <NUAMI> later
[09:58] <Ng> ernesto: network://
[09:58] <winnipegm> does totem-xine support dts or dolby digital?
[09:59] <Ng> ernesto: that will let you browse the SMB network, or I think you can just do smb://
[09:59] <winnipegm> =(
[09:59] <Ng> winnipegm: dts is not supported in any free software anymore :(
[09:59] <winnipegm> how about dd?
[09:59] <Ng> they threw their toys out of the pram and demanded it be removed from everything
[09:59] <Ng> not sure
[09:59] <ernesto> winnipegm: thanks dude
[09:59] <ernesto> by the way, ubuntu kicks ass :D
[09:59] <winnipegm> hehe
[09:59] <ernesto> I used to be a Libranet user...but I siwtched to ubuntu
[10:00] <daniel1404> Do someone knows about installing NVIDIA drivers in Ubunto using Xorg ?
[10:01] <ernesto> you know where I can get cool gnome apps?
[10:01] <Ng> daniel1404: there is an nvidia-glx package in universe or multiverse or something
[10:02] <Ng> it's not the most recent version of the drivers, but it works with hoary's x.org
[10:02] <farruinn> ernesto, take a look at synaptic, the gui package manager
[10:02] <daniel1404> Ng: yes, I just issued this:
[10:02] <Ng> ernesto: http://www.gnomefiles.org/
[10:02] <daniel1404>  03) $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[10:02] <daniel1404>   04) $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[10:02] <daniel1404>   05) $ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:03] <daniels> daniel1404: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, change Driver "nv" to Driver "nvidia"
[10:03] <scizzo> sval: well it hasn't helped me..I have done those things actually
[10:03] <daniels> daniel1404: known issue, will be fixed on Monday, hopefully
[10:03] <sval> scizzo, and what's the problem then ?
[10:03] <daniels> (will hopefully spend Sunday poking around Barcelona rather than compiling kernels and such)
[10:04] <scizzo> sval: the sound is playing...but the video isn't showed
[10:04] <Ng> daniels: nice :)
[10:04] <daniel1404> When I try to sudo nvidia-glx-config enable I get This
[10:04] <Ng> barcelona, that is :)
[10:04] <daniel1404> Error: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum
[10:04] <daniel1404> are missing from your system. Please be sure that your xserver package is
[10:04] <daniel1404> installed correctly.
[10:04] <sval> what the error message ?
[10:04] <Ng> daniel1404: do what daniels just said, it's because that package is looking for the old XFree config file
[10:04] <FunnyLookinHat> wireless sucks to setup.
[10:04] <sval> scizzo, what's the error message ?
[10:04] <daniel1404> Ng: Can it be fixed ?
[10:05] <zopi> ernesto : http://www.gnomefiles.org
[10:05] <zopi> sorry link already done :)
[10:05] <Ng> daniel1404: read what daniels said to you here 2 minutes ago :)
[10:06] <s0cks> ogra : How long/
[10:06] <daniel1404> Ng: same error
[10:06] <winnipegm> damnit
[10:06] <winnipegm> im playing a dvd
[10:06] <daniel1404> I've changed nv to nvidia
[10:06] <winnipegm> im only getting left and right channel
[10:06] <winnipegm> i need 5.1
[10:06] <winnipegm> :(
[10:07] <Ng> daniel1404: then you should be fine - that's all the nvidia-glx-config enable was going to do
[10:07] <ogra> s0cks: until the 10th.....
[10:07] <Ng> daniel1404: it just doesn't understand Xorg yet
[10:08] <s0cks> it started today, didnt it?
[10:10] <ernesto> I just mounted my FAT32 partition where I have windows installed, but through nautilus, it doesn't differentiate a folder from a file, but it does through the terminal. anybody knows if I should tweak something on nautilus?
[10:10] <chet> hello
[10:11] <winnipegm> frigg
[10:11] <winnipegm> not even tv out works
[10:11] <winnipegm> goddamn ati
[10:11] <ernesto> I just mounted my FAT32 partition where I have windows installed, but through nautilus, it doesn't differentiate a folder from a file, but it does through the terminal. anybody knows if I should tweak something on nautilus?
[10:11] <Ng> ernesto: no need to repeat the question, if nobody answers, nobody knows ;)
[10:12] <chet> i am browsing my windows network, when i get to the server and try to connect, i get an error stating there is some file association error?
[10:12] <scizzo> sval: The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
[10:12] <scizzo> sval: VDecoder init failed :(
[10:12] <ernesto> Ng, have you mounted a FAT32 partition and have been able to see folders through nautilus?
[10:12] <Ng> ernesto: not since I installed ubuntu, but in the past, yes
[10:12] <Ng> ernesto: the only thing that springs to mind is permissions, but that seems fairly unlikely
[10:13] <sval> scizzo, which video file do you try to play ?
[10:13] <scizzo> sval: mpg, avi etc
[10:13] <chet> i see the server as a smb share via nautilus, but it doesnt know how to open it?
[10:13] <sval> scizzo , and you have problem for all of them
[10:14] <sval> scizzo, so try mplayer -vo xv videofile
[10:14] <chet> it states: "The filename "MEDIA" indicates that this file is of type "desktop configuration file". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "x-directory/smb-share". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system."
[10:14] <stevecarter> ogra: I'm back. I have now downloaded all the packages in the ubuntu archive repositories but ndiswrapper stays obstinately absent.
[10:14] <scizzo> sval: that works
[10:15] <sval> scizzo, so enjoy :-)
[10:15] <Ng> stevecarter: ndiswrapper isn't in ubuntu's repositories
[10:15] <Arrrr> hello
[10:15] <chet> is there some way i can associate the smb share with a program so it can open it?
[10:15] <scizzo> sval: thanks
[10:15] <Arrrr> anyone knows how to make the font in the login screen smaller?
[10:15] <stevecarter> Ng: Can you tell me where it is please?
[10:15] <winnipegm> my font is small
[10:15] <winnipegm> why is yours big?
[10:15] <sval> scizzo , maybe you can define this by default in the .mplayer prferences file
[10:15] <winnipegm> new install?
[10:15] <Ng> stevecarter: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/  - they have a debian repository that *might* work, but it may not
[10:15] <scizzo> sval: already done.. :)
[10:16] <sval> scizzo  ;)
[10:16] <Arrrr> winnipegm: i  just want to change the size, that's all...
[10:16] <winnipegm> ok
[10:16] <winnipegm> try display panel thingy
[10:16] <Arrrr> ???
[10:16] <Arrrr> what display panel?
[10:16] <stevecarter> Ng: I have tried that - but it is all gobbledegook to me.  Someone else thought it should be on the CD - do you know any different?
[10:16] <winnipegm> right click in screen
[10:16] <Arrrr> that wouldn't work.. i've tried it
[10:17] <winnipegm> ok
[10:17] <winnipegm> reinstalll ;)
[10:17] <chet> could someone please help me with an smb issue please? :)
[10:17] <slowhog> is gnome-file-types-properties removed from capplets in warty?
[10:17] <Ng> stevecarter: I'm certainly no expert, but I can't find it in the ubuntu repositories, which means it's very unlikely to be on the CD.
[10:17] <winnipegm> damn
[10:17] <winnipegm> cant i get mplayer for ubuntu?
[10:18] <Arrrr> i have mplayer
[10:18] <winnipegm> how u get it?
[10:18] <Arrrr> i watch movies using it
[10:18] <winnipegm> dl it first?
[10:18] <Arrrr> i think from the universe repository
[10:18] <Ng> stevecarter: the grey box on that page that starts "deb" is a line you can use as a synaptic repository
[10:18] <winnipegm> i searched for it in there it wasnt there
[10:18] <Ng> stevecarter: whether or not those debian packages will work with ubuntu is another question though, it could well not work
[10:18] <winnipegm> im switching to kde ne ways
[10:18] <Arrrr> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty universe
[10:18] <Arrrr> do you have that?
[10:18] <winnipegm> i think kde has it by default
[10:19] <stevecarter> Ng: by "that page" do you mean the link you mentioned earlier?
[10:19] <winnipegm> yup
[10:19] <Arrrr> that's beating the purpose of a gnome distribution..
[10:19] <Ng> stevecarter: sorry, yes :)
[10:19] <chet> does anyone know of a command i can use directy for smb since i cant get nautilus to work, please
[10:20] <Arrrr> winniepegm: that's strange.. coz i have mplayer in my synaptic
[10:20] <limaunion> chet: man smbmount ?
[10:20] <chet> ok,
[10:21] <chet> is smbmount part of default install?
[10:21] <chet> i dont get how smb has no porgram associated with it?
[10:21] <Arrrr> winnipegm: reinstall ? :P
[10:22] <melazybo3> When running dist-upgrade, i got an error, 'the applicaton 'gnome-panel' has quit unexpectedly'. is this normal?
[10:22] <melazybo3> hoary distro.
[10:22] <borgmeister> it works!
[10:22] <potato_head> chet: checkout smbfs in synaptic
[10:22] <borgmeister> wasabi: it works, cheers mate
[10:22] <Ng> melazybo3: no, it's not normal, it means it crashed
[10:22] <winnipegm> how i shut the anoying sounds off in kde
[10:23] <winnipegm> damnit its killing me
[10:23] <Ng> melazybo3: although hoary is an unstable release, so it is normal in a way
[10:23] <chet> potato_head, i was under the assumption that nautilus would just browse,, it seems the problem may be deeper
[10:23] <chet> but i will look into it, thanks
[10:23] <ScislaC> hello
[10:24] <winnipegm> i got it
[10:24] <winnipegm> :D
[10:24] <potato_head> chet: it will browse, but to mount an smb share on the file system I think you need smbfs
[10:25] <Zotnix> oh! Duh! No wonder I couldn't mount smbfs
[10:25] <CPUnerd> ok.. is there something different between the live cd and the install cd that makes the install not recognize my lan card ?
[10:26] <CPUnerd> well, it recognizes it.. but when I activate it, it de-activates itself.
[10:31] <CPUnerd> it sees it in the network config applet but ifconfig eth0 doesnt see it.. :)
[10:31] <CPUnerd> thank you
[10:31] <ScislaC> If I already have XP & Mandrake 10 on a box, can I also install Ubuntu along side easily?
[10:34] <sval> ScislaC, if you have place for it ... why not ;)
[10:35] <limaunion> ScislaC: sure, why not? just create a new free partition with enough free space.
[10:36] <ScislaC> will the bootloader automatically pick it up or will I have to manually configure?
[10:37] <limaunion> while an md5sum will take almost twice the time for the same file under reiserfs than under vfat ? any ideas?
[10:37] <potato_head> gnome terminal blows hairy goats. Any suggestions for something better?
[10:38] <tvon|x31> xterm
[10:38] <sval> potato_head , xterm ;)
[10:38] <tvon|x31> though gt works fine for me
[10:39] <limaunion> ScislaC: I guess it'll detect all your system, but i'm not sure
[10:39] <potato_head> Does gt support select-copy, and rightclick-paste?
[10:39] <Q-FUNK> is there a way to make FX86 and GDM work with just msttcorefonts, ttf-bitstream-vera and ttf-freefont, without any of rhe xfonts-* package?
[10:39] <tvon|x31> potato_head: yes
[10:41] <stevecarter> Ng: I see you are still here. I have now got a package called ndiswrapper-source installed. Any idea how I use it to install the wirless drivers?
[10:43] <guest2> anyone here run ubuntu on a PPC?
[10:43] <cornflake> how do i enable ssh on my box?
[10:43] <guest2> i'm trying to setup the new apple webcam
[10:43] <crimsun> sudo apt-get install openssh-server  <-- ?
[10:44] <guest2> the funky silver one
[10:44] <farruinn> guest2, i use ppc, but no webcam, sorry =(
[10:45] <marska> Hey everyone.. I need help with mounting a removable CD-RW and mounting Fat32 partitions.
[10:45] <guest2> ok, does ubuntu use the ieee1394 raw driver? this firewire camera is an ieee394 device
[10:46] <marska> The CD-RW drive doesn't care to mount or be detected and I'm not sure how to fiddle with it enough. Anyone care to help?
[10:46] <guest2> i get the err  no drivers for IEEE1394 product 0x000000/0x00a02d/0x000102
[10:47] <marska> I'd appreciate it.
[10:47] <stevecarter> ping
[10:48] <iz> marska, mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom ?
[10:49] <farruinn> guest2, I'm guessing that means there's no driver installed for the webcam itself.  Linux does support firewire
[10:49] <iz> marska, or mount /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrw
[10:49] <melazyboy> does anyone know if fglrx is working in the new xorg yet?
[10:49] <marska> Says both do not exist.
[10:49] <britt_radiofree> is typeahead broken in ephy for anyone?
[10:50] <marska> Which is funny, because I just got done installing the distro from the drive
[10:50] <iz> marska, maybe thirst do a dmesg
[10:50] <marska> You'll need to break it down a little
[10:50] <marska> Ah...
[10:51] <iz> i must to get some sleep sorry maybe some other guy/girl can help you
[10:51] <marska> Thank you though.
[10:51] <marska> Have a good nap
[10:51] <iz> no problem goodluck
[10:52] <marska> Anyone care to walk a n00b through mounting a drive?
[10:52] <marska> Or is anyone just extremely board?
[10:52] <marska> bored even
[10:53] <cornflake> guest2: thanx for telling me that
[10:53] <farruinn> marska, what does the line for your cdrom drive say in fstab?
[10:53] <stevecarter> Hi. I have been trying for a while to get a wireless LAN card working, and one or two folk have been very helpful. I now have ndiswrapper-source installed as a package. Can someone tell me what has to be done next?
[10:54] <marska> Looking now
[10:54] <FunnyLookinHat> stevecarter: Do you have the windows version of the driver on your system somewhere?
[10:54] <stevecarter> Yes - on a CD sitting in the CDrom drive.
[10:54] <farruinn> less /etc/fstab | grep cdrom
[10:55] <marska> Farruin, may I message you?
[10:55] <FunnyLookinHat> stevecarter: copy the files to somewhere local, like a directory in your home directory.
[10:55] <farruinn> there's really no reason to - it helps everyone more if we talk here
[10:55] <marska> Alright
[10:55] <marska> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto
[10:56] <FunnyLookinHat> marska: He's right you know.  ;)
[10:56] <CPUnerd> I still can't get network connection from install cd
[10:56] <FunnyLookinHat> CPUnerd: Are you trying DHCP or manual network config?  I would try second, DHCP didn't work for me either.
[10:56] <marska> It doesn't want to mount from scdi
[10:56] <farruinn> marska, is this a scsi drive or something?
[10:56] <CPUnerd> dhcp
[10:57] <marska> Its a USB device
[10:57] <farruinn> oooh
[10:57] <FunnyLookinHat> CPUnerd: Yeah, try manual config.  It'll probably work real fast for ya.
[10:57] <marska> That was also confusing me.
[10:57] <CPUnerd> FunnyLookinHat, I can't
[10:57] <CPUnerd> I get dhcp from my isp
[10:57] <CPUnerd> but the live cd it works
[10:57] <CPUnerd> when I get on the installed... ifconfig eth0 doesnt even see a card
[10:57] <CPUnerd> but network-config get the eth0 there..
[10:57] <CPUnerd> but not possible to activate it
[10:58] <stevecarter> FunnyLookingHat: OK they are on the harddisk in my folder.
[10:58] <guest2> what is the default video device in ubuntu.. /dev/video??
[10:58] <guest2> /dev/video0??
[10:58] <marska> I am very easily confused by the way... Anyway.. How do I mount this then?
[10:58] <CPUnerd> mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdrive
[10:58] <marska> From dmesg it is detecting the drive, but its saying its scsi
[10:58] <marska> Alright
[10:58] <CPUnerd> but you have to mkdir /mnt/usbdrive though
[10:59] <FunnyLookinHat> stevecarter: Good.  Now go to this link and try to finish...
[10:59] <FunnyLookinHat> stevecarter: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-10-07.7773155363/
[10:59] <guest2> marska most usb storage devices are treated as scsi devices in linux
[10:59] <FunnyLookinHat> That is step by step instructions...  you are probably at step 4
[10:59] <CPUnerd> FunnyLookinHat, any ideas ?
[11:00] <FunnyLookinHat> CPUnerd: (thinking)...  Honestly, no.  You could try copying the DHCP stuff that your computer gets when online to the manual config screen for boot cd.
[11:00] <marska> root@unknown:/home/marska # mount -t vfat /dev/sr0 /mnt/usbdrive
[11:00] <marska> mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[11:00] <marska> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0,
[11:00] <marska>        or too many mounted file systems
[11:00] <marska> Thats what I'm getting
[11:00] <CPUnerd> are you sure it's sr0 ?
[11:01] <stevecarter> FunnyLookingHat: OK - but it tells me to do something avbout which I am ignorant i.e. Call "ndiswrapper -i foobar.inf"  How do I call this?
[11:01] <marska> That what it says in dmesg
[11:01] <marska> And the sd0 mount point doesn't return anything
[11:02] <CPUnerd> sd0
[11:02] <CPUnerd> type "/exec -o mount -t vfat /dev/sd0 /mnt/usb
[11:02] <guest2> marska: check /etc/fstab to see if there's a relevant entry. should be there already
[11:03] <FunnyLookinHat> stevecarter: open up a terminal window and navigate to the location where you have the driver files
[11:03] <farruinn> marska, I'm searching....
[11:03] <guest2> CPUnerd why /exec ?
[11:03] <FunnyLookinHat> stevecarter: Then run the command sudo ndiswrapper -i (yourdriverfile).inf
[11:03] <CPUnerd> so we can see it.
[11:03] <marska> Thank you Farruin, I've already tried Google though.
[11:03] <guest2> ahh k
[11:04] <guest2> well you have another 20 ubuntu users here
[11:04] <marska> Fstab shows - "/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660"
[11:04] <guest2> a install fest in belgium
[11:04] <guest2> ubuntu is the basis for a new series of multimedia workshops apparently
[11:04] <CPUnerd> marska, we'll fit it into fstab once it's mounted and we kno the device id
[11:04] <marska> Do you want the dmesg information?
[11:05] <guest2> it's a trul lovely distro.. very happy
[11:05] <marska> Rather go back to plain ol' debian. More packages.
[11:05] <CPUnerd> marska that's sooo true
[11:05] <insomny> Hi all !
[11:05] <rototom> evening together
[11:05] <farruinn> even with universe and multiverse enabled?
[11:05] <insomny> is there any french people here ?
[11:05] <marska> You mean the drive, farruin?
[11:06] <CPUnerd> marska, I installed this because I"m tired of taking care of my servers at work so I wanted something quick and easy ;)
[11:06] <guest2> i'm no french though writing from brussels
[11:06] <CPUnerd> it's beautiful though
[11:06] <marska> Thats called lazyness.
[11:06] <marska> I really can't stand gnome
[11:06] <CPUnerd> I know
[11:06] <CPUnerd> can't stand gnome ?
[11:06] <CPUnerd> why did you take ubuntu then ? take some windows-looking knoppix
[11:06] <farruinn> marksa, no, I mean there are still more packages in debian than ubuntu+universe+multiverse
[11:07] <insomny> Okay, but all what I wanted to know was wich chan is french one ? I tried ubuntu-fr but there's no one...
[11:07] <marska> Ya.. I know.
[11:07] <guest2> marska well a dislike of gnome is a reason to shy away from gnome
[11:07] <marska> Well du'h.. It was either this or Gentoo at the moment though, Windows did a 180 on me and walked into the floor
[11:07] <insomny> oups, there're lot of people ^ sorry
[11:07] <CPUnerd> ok, going back to SID. C ya later.
[11:07] <FunnyLookinHat> stevecarter: By the way, if you have lots of issues don't be surprised... I've been trying to get mine to work for quite some time w/o luck.
[11:08] <marska> Later then nerd
[11:08] <guest2> marska for my laptop i installed debian as i'm an openbox fan
[11:08] <marska> I'm partial to XFCE
[11:09] <marska> I don't enjoy two minute boot times though.
[11:09] <marska> With Gnome.
[11:09] <melazyboy> Is there anyway i can gain access of a windows desktop through linux, like a cross platform ssh, or remote desktop
[11:09] <farruinn> fluxbox all the way ;-)
[11:09] <melazyboy> to a*
[11:09] <melazyboy> I have physical access to both machens but would like to control them all via one terminal
[11:09] <marska> Fluxbox is a perversion of blackbox...
[11:10] <marska> A perversion I say!
[11:11] <farruinn> never tried blackbox - always had heard that flux was an "improved" versoin of blackbox
[11:11] <guest2> marska,  yeah but openbox simply rox. xml config's are so lovely and useable
[11:11] <stephecarter> FunnyLookingHat: When I run sudo Ndiswrapper etc. as you suggetsed, I get an error message sudo: ndiswrapper: command not found.
[11:11] <marska> Blackbox is to fluxbox what a desert is if you remove all the rocks, animals, and plants.
[11:12] <Procent> hi, tell me please where can i find ramdisk's driver? i am especially interested in one that compresses each block, but not necessarly
[11:12] <marska> I'd really like to get back onto debian though..
[11:13] <geppy> Is there a more configurable ripper than grip?  I'm wanting something that I can make utilize FLAC's comment fields properly.
[11:14] <sval> geppy , you can with grip, just configure the command line option for flac
[11:14] <rototom> geppy, abcde jack sound-juicer kio
[11:16] <geppy> sval:  The difficulty arises in fields like "performer", "license", "organization", etc.  The only way to do this in grip would be to change the encoder config each time that you rip (by hardcoding the values).
[11:18] <marska> Or.. Alright.. Fine damn it.
[11:18] <marska> Two easy questions..
[11:18] <marska> 1... How do I mount a fat32 partition?
[11:19] <geppy> mount /dev/hd<identifier> /mnt/<mountpoint>
[11:19] <calamari> hi
[11:19] <geppy> If I wanted to mount the FAT32 partition which is the first partition on my first drive, I'd first make a directory "/mnt/hda1/", and then run 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1'
[11:20] <geppy> sval:  Any ideas?
[11:21] <thomas_> :)
[11:21] <melazyboy> ,,, marska If i wanted to mount a fat32 partition - /dev/hda1, as /mnt/fat, i would use the following line 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/fat -t fat32 -o umask=000'
[11:22] <melazyboy> err
[11:22] <melazyboy> rather vfat
[11:22] <thomas_> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/fat  ?
[11:22] <melazyboy> thomas + -o umask=000
[11:22] <jblack> Hmmm. apparently myu laptop has bluetooth, and the modules load for it, but bluetooth doesn't work
[11:23] <melazyboy> thomas_: Otherwise you won't be writing to the partition
[11:23] <thomas_> ok
[11:23] <melazyboy> I want to an x40 so bad
[11:23] <melazyboy> =[
[11:23] <melazyboy> with ulv processer
[11:24] <melazyboy> daniels: What is your battery life like and do you use 8cell or 4cell?
[11:32] <daniels> melazyboy: very good (5-6h usually), and 8-cell, because that's what it came with
[11:33] <thu> you don't need -t vfat for mount
[11:35] <rototom> i want my ubuntu cds!
[11:35] <rototom> ;-)
[11:37] <ACID|net> evening,  i have just intalled ubuntu and found its really cool.........i want to install it on my old P120 to use for dev - just like PHP and Apache and test out different configs etc however when I installed it on my system it took 2gb - the p120 only has a 1gb harddrive - is there a way to pick and choose what u want?
[11:37] <sval> ACID|net
[11:37] <sval> ACID|net , yes, choose the expert mode install
[11:38] <ACID|net> is that then more like the main debian installer??
[11:38] <sval> ACID|net , don't know really but i suppose
[11:39] <ACID|net> ok cool thanks
[11:41] <Muskra1> heh
[11:45] <Nivlem> Having trouble connecting from UbuntuPPC to what will be my headless UbuntuPC install...I want to use tightvncserver on the PC to be able and control it from the Mac...it is refusing the connection..I have edited the hosts.allow file for box machines, verified that tightvncserver is running, ran vncpasswd..no joy..get connection refused..
[11:45] <Nivlem> *both*
[11:46] <gen> using vncviewer on the pc?
[11:46] <Nivlem> gen: the other way around..sorry I was dyslexic in my explanation..
[11:47] <gen> how would you use tightvncserver to control anything
[11:47] <gen> client side? doesnt make sense
[11:47] <Nivlem> gen: I can ping the vncserver machine...I cannot connect either using the actual ip address
[11:47] <winnipegm> ( Multimedia ) Video Card: [ Screen Resolution: 1152x864 pixels / 24 Bits | 3D Acceleration: No ]  | | CD-Rom: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 | CD-RW: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108
[11:47] <winnipegm> how can i get 3d :(
[11:47] <gen> nivlem, you used the correct port right
[11:47] <gen> like ip:port
[11:47] <gen> <IP_ADDRESS>:5800
[11:47] <gen> etc
[11:48] <Nivlem> gen: Didn't specify this since the man page on the server said it should work with defaults..
[11:48] <gen> when connecting client side you have to specify port
[11:49] <Nivlem> gen: You know what the default port is it uses?
[11:49] <gen> 5800 or 5900 i believe
[11:49] <Nivlem> gen: thanks..will  try that...
[11:54] <mouu> hi
[11:55] <Kamion> sval: expert mode isn't really helpful in this case
[11:55] <Kamion> ACID|net: try custom, not expert
[11:56] <gen> you replied 10 minutes late
[11:56] <Kamion> gen: who, me?
[11:56] <gen> yeah
[11:56] <Kamion> gen: not all of us watch IRC 24/7; I'm busy packing for the conference
[11:56] <gen> yeah i know :)
[11:57] <Kamion> my client shows timestamps, I'm aware of relative times of comments
[11:58] <gen> yeah, as does mine
[11:58] <gen> and that time was from my head anyhow, doesn't matter


[10:30] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[15:43] <arsson> hello! Trying to execute gksudo nautilus after 3.15 kernel upgrade and it's says this  ** (gksudo:30449): CRITICAL **: fcntl error
[15:43] <arsson> ** (gksudo:30449): WARNING **: Lock taken by pid: -1. Exiting.
[15:44] <arsson> Solutions?
[16:35] <roasted> Hello friends. I understand this channel is for 14.10 but would it be also suitable for 14.04.1 (not out yet), or is that for regular #ubuntu?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> roasted, try #ubuntu-devel
[18:02] <junka> hello ubuntu fellows
[18:03] <junka> i tried both unity8 X11 and MIR without success :(


[16:14] <robbiew> are we meeting?
[16:27] <zul> i thought we canceled it
[16:28]  * Daviey thought this aswell
[16:32] <SpamapS> the nay's have it. :)
[16:39] <zul> #startmeeting
[16:39] <MootBot> Meeting started at 11:39. The chair is zul.
[16:39] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:39] <zul> #endmeeting
[16:39] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:39.
[16:39] <zul> there you go
[16:49] <bjf> ##
[16:49] <bjf> ## Kernel team meeting in 10 minutes
[16:49] <bjf> ##
[16:52]  * Chipaca sends big hugs to the kernel team, because it's been awesome, always
[16:59] <apw> o/
[16:59] <herton> \o
[16:59] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <bjf> #
[17:00] <bjf> # lets "get 'er done"!
[17:00] <bjf> #
[17:00] <bjf> #startmeeting
[17:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 12:00. The chair is bjf.
[17:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[17:00] <bjf> ##
[17:00] <bjf> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <bjf> ##
[17:00] <bjf> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <bjf> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
[17:00] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
[17:00] <bjf> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <bjf> #
[17:00] <bjf> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
[17:00] <bjf> #       'o/' indicates you have something you'd like to add (wait until you are recognized)
[17:00] <bjf> #
[17:00] <bjf> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (ogasawara)
[17:00] <MootBot> New Topic:  Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (ogasawara)
[17:00] <ogasawara> [17:00] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:00] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:00] <ogasawara> [17:00] <ogasawara>  * 30 linux kernel bugs (up 10)
[17:00] <ogasawara> [17:00] <ogasawara>  * 2 linux kernel bugs (up 2)
[17:00] <ogasawara> [17:00] <ogasawara>  * 0 oneiric linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:00] <ogasawara>  * 19 natty linux kernel bugs (down 2)
[17:00] <ogasawara>  * 3 maverick linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:00] <ogasawara>  * 7 lucid linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:00] <ogasawara>  * 0 hardy linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara>  * 89 oneiric bugs (up 14)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 1492 natty bugs (up 26)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 1089 maverick bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 941 lucid bugs (up 8)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 31 hardy bugs (down 1)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara>  * 0 oneiric bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 13 natty bugs (up 1)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 41 maverick bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 75 lucid bugs (up 1)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara>  * 1 oneiric bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 439 natty bugs (up 1)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 240 maverick bugs (down 1)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 214 lucid bugs (up 3)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 2 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara>  * 0 oneiric bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 2 natty bugs (up 1)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 1 maverick bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 0 lucid bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara> ..
[17:01] <bjf> [TOPIC] Blueprints: Oneiric Delta Review (ogasawara)
[17:01] <bjf> [LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review
[17:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Blueprints: Oneiric Delta Review (ogasawara)
[17:02] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review
[17:02] <ogasawara> lag, rsalveti: you have work items to review your set of Ubuntu patches.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/KernelOneiricUbuntuDeltaReview .  Note, these are the only remaining work items for this blueprint.
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <bjf> [TOPIC] Status: General Oneiric (ogasawara)
[17:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Status: General Oneiric (ogasawara)
[17:02] <ogasawara> Last week we uploaded the 3.0.0-8.10 Ubuntu kernel.  This was rebased onto upstream stable v3.0.1.  We'll continue to follow upstream stable v3.0.x as we move towards release.  I'd also like to note that v3.1-rc1 came out yesterday.  As such, I'm going to begin opening the P-series repo.  Lastly, some upcoming dates to keep in mind are:
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * Aug 11 - Feature Freeze (tomorrow)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * Sept 1 - Beta 1 (~3 weeks)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * Sept 15 - Kernel Freeze (~5 weeks)
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <bjf> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw)
[17:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Status: CVE's (apw)
[17:02] <apw> == 2011-08-09 (weekly) ==
[17:02] <apw> [17:02] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~apw/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:02] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~apw/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:02] <apw> Currently open CVEs for each supported branch:
[17:02] <apw> || Package                                  || Open      ||
[17:02] <apw> ||                                          ||           ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux Hardy                              ||    6 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux Lucid                              ||    3 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux Maverick                           ||    3 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux Natty                              ||    3 (-2) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux Oneiric                            ||    2      ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-ec2 Lucid                          ||    3 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-fsl-imx51 Lucid                    ||    3 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-mvl-dove Lucid                     ||    3 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-mvl-dove Maverick                  ||    3 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Maverick                  ||    3 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Natty                     ||    3 (-2) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Oneiric                   ||    2      ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-lts-backport-maverick Lucid        ||    3 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-lts-backport-natty Lucid           ||    3 (-2) ||
[17:03] <apw> ..
[17:03] <bjf> apw, the link you give is no longer correct?
[17:03] <apw> poop thanks ..
[17:03] <bjf> [TOPIC] Status: Stable Kernel Team (sconklin)
[17:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Status: Stable Kernel Team (sconklin)
[17:04] <sconklin> ||== Status of kernels ==
[17:04] <sconklin> ||
[17:04] <sconklin> || This is kernel prep week. Kernel prep will probably slip for any kernels which
[17:04] <sconklin> || do not complete testing and make release this week. I have requested estimates for testing
[17:04] <sconklin> || completion but have not received them, so I can't make any predictions about when
[17:04] <sconklin> || we will begin verification for most of the kernels for the next cycle.
[17:04] <sconklin> ||
[17:04] <sconklin> || We have had problems with innacurate updates to tracking bugs. In one case a comment
[17:04] <sconklin> || was added stating that certification testing had begun when it had not. It was only
[17:04] <sconklin> || determined six days later that testing had not begun.
[17:04] <sconklin> ||
[17:04] <sconklin> || Kernel status for each series is as follows:
[17:04] <sconklin> ||
[17:04] <sconklin> || * Released
[17:04] <sconklin> ||   We're working through issues around pre-mature publishing of hardy kernel to -updates
[17:04] <sconklin> ||
[17:04] <sconklin> ||[17:04] <sconklin> || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/812360|Hardy Tracking Bug]]
[17:04] <sconklin> || * Was released in error after my status mail incorrectly said it was ready for release.
[17:04] <sconklin> ||
[17:04] <sconklin> ||[17:04] <sconklin> || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/818196|Lucid Tracking Bug]]
[17:04] <sconklin> || * Awaiting regression testing
[17:04] <sconklin> ||
[17:04] <sconklin> ||[17:04] <sconklin> || * Previous version was published, prep has begun for next cycle
[17:04] <sconklin> ||
[17:04] <sconklin> ||[17:04] <sconklin> || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/818175|Natty Tracking Bug]]
[17:04] <sconklin> || * Awaiting regression and certification testing
[17:04] <sconklin> ||
[17:04] <sconklin> ..
[17:05] <bjf> [TOPIC] Security & bugfix kernels - Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (sconklin)
[17:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Security & bugfix kernels - Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (sconklin)
[17:05] <sconklin> ||
[17:05] <sconklin> || Current Kernel versions are available here: http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/versions.html
[17:05] <sconklin> ||
[17:05] <sconklin> ..
[17:05] <bjf> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions: Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open Discussion or Questions: Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:05] <bjf> thanks everyone
[17:05] <bjf> #endmeeting
[17:05] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 12:05.


[17:24] <thrrgilag> I asked in the supergroup but I'll ask here as well out of curiosity.  Is the bridge with the supergroup down for good or will it be brought back at some point?
[17:44] <PureTryOut[m]> ooh I didn't realize the bridge was down
[17:44] <PureTryOut[m]> makes sense with that spammer...
[17:47] <thrrgilag> Yeah I figured that was the reason for it and completely understand.  Telegram isn't my favorite interface for group chat but I also want to follow the activity.
[18:25] <PureTryOut[m]> imo it's fine for group chats, although it's not the best. I'm just really, really bothered by it's proprietary servers. and why the hell is the desktop client so awfully hard to build...


[01:56] <cmaloney> Evening and all that jazz
[12:29] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:10] <brousch> Damn Windows
[13:11] <brousch> An automatic update went wrong last weekend. Start up failed. Disk check mode: Can't check due to error with recently installed software - restore from restore point. Restore point: Can't restore because there's a disk error.
[13:49] <rick_h__> hmm, missed I got disconnected
[13:50] <rick_h__> well that's strange
[14:11] <cmaloney> http://falkvinge.net/2013/12/23/reminder-1-copyright-monopoly-infringement-isnt-stealing-says-the-us-supreme-court/
[14:27] <jrwren> GOOD MORNING
[14:28] <rick_h__> are we done yet?
[14:29] <jrwren> i've been done for weeks.
[14:29] <jrwren> great link cmaloney, thanks.
[14:29] <brousch> Done with what?
[14:29] <rick_h__> work :)
[14:30] <cmaloney> jrwren: yw
[14:30] <rick_h__> I'm battling running CI tests remotely on saucelabs mixing Make, shell, nodejs, mocha, and selenium via saucelabs...ugh
[14:30] <brousch> No. Working today and 1/2 day tomorrow, then rest of the week off
[14:30] <brousch> wow
[14:30] <cmaloney> Also: Suicidal Tendencies Art of Rebellion is one of my "perfect albums"
[14:30]  * rick_h__ is ready to nuke it all from orbit
[14:30] <cmaloney> seriously, this album never fails to make me happy.
[14:31] <brousch> cmaloney: Suicidal Tendencies never fails to make you happy?
[14:32] <cmaloney> The band, yes.
[14:32] <cmaloney> I love groove-metal
[14:33] <brousch> I actually couldn't tell you a single song from them
[14:34] <cmaloney> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X34HrFDNOEg&list=PL76DBD088A41A4996
[14:34] <cmaloney> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X34HrFDNOEg&list=PLA1E6E64D2884DAE1
[14:34] <cmaloney> second link has "Nobody Hears"
[14:35] <brousch> Then what good will it do me?
[14:35] <cmaloney> har har
[14:35] <cmaloney> I mean the second link should be more complete
[14:35] <cmaloney> Just click on it
[14:36] <cmaloney> It's totally work-safe. ;)
[14:36] <brousch> I will find my headphones
[14:39] <cmaloney> Has Robert Trujillo on bass FWIW
[15:04] <cmaloney> Also: tmux session switching is awesome.
[15:04] <cmaloney> helping me to keep my focus this morning
[15:06] <jrwren> what does it do?
[15:07] <cmaloney> If you have more than one tmux session running you can use <ctrl>-b s to switch between them
[15:09] <jrwren> ah, good tip
[15:10] <jrwren> i wonder if I should switch to multisessions, more than 10 windows gets to be a pain
[16:19] <greg-g> g'morn
[16:19] <cmaloney> Morning greg-g
[16:19] <rick_h__> party party
[16:19] <cmaloney> brousch: How'd you like Suicidal Tendencies?
[16:19] <cmaloney> http://falkvinge.net/2013/12/23/reminder-1-copyright-monopoly-infringement-isnt-stealing-says-the-us-supreme-court/
[16:19] <brousch> I have not listened yet
[16:20] <cmaloney> greg-g: ^^
[16:20] <cmaloney> whaaaaaaaa?
[16:20] <cmaloney> That's crazy talk
[16:31] <rick_h__> lmao https://twitter.com/totalfilm/status/413248168885645312/photo/1
[18:25] <brousch> Who will buy this for me for Xmas? http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/yoga/yoga-2-pro/
[20:37] <cmaloney> brousch1: I think you've been nominated. :)
[20:39] <brousch1> For what?
[20:39] <cmaloney> buying that yoga 2 for yurself for Christmas
[20:39] <brousch1> bah
[20:40] <brousch1> I want a dual boot Kubuntu/Android tablet/laptop like the Microsoft Surface Pro 2
[20:40] <brousch1> Is that so much to ask?
[20:42] <cmaloney> Reply hazy.