[00:57] <mac9416> OK, I got my TV wonder 200 recognised by MythTV, but I still can't watch TV. I click "Watch TV" and the screen just blinks. Someone mentioned associating a data source?
[01:43] <test0r> hi there, i'm trying to get my pinnacle pctv hd usb 452e working under mythbuntu, but i can't find instructions
[01:43] <test0r> there's only one entry in the doc on wiki that says something about some patches
[01:44] <test0r> so my question, did anybody got this card working?
[05:04] <user1> I have a 1TB drive and 1 gig of RAM,, looking for suggestions of partitioning and filesystems.  Thanks!!
[05:45] <user1> during the mytvset up I'm getting a black screen with a white outline of a box, it seems to have frozen
[05:45] <user1> 1 minute so far
[05:46] <user1> ver 9, 64 bit, open soure video driver
[05:53] <user1> that is mythbuntu ver 9,, on a amd 64 bit,, selected the open source video driver, firefox opened fine, then mythtv setup crashed
[05:53] <user1> if I alt+tab, I see a scree
[05:53] <user1> screen
[05:54] <user1> X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8
[05:54] <user1> Major opcodes 62
[05:54] <user1> minion 0
[05:54] <user1> resource id
[05:54] <user1> 0xc00009
[05:54] <user1> going to Ctrl+C
[06:20] <user1> I can return to the installer, (screen with link to firefox and setup)
[06:20] <user1> I don't know if I should continue at this point, I turned off the computer and will await advice
[06:54] <user1> during the mytvset up I'm getting a black screen with a white outline of a box, it seems to have frozen
[08:21] <user1> tried a new installation with open source drivers
[08:21] <user1> boots up to garbled screen
[08:22] <user1> I have to say that I'm not that impressed with the ease of use of mythbuntu so far
[08:23] <user1> if I can help contribute to the project in anyway, I don't mind
[09:46] <walker> hello
[09:47] <walker> anyone tried the 9.04 mythtbuntu with diskless clients?
[09:49] <oobe> user1, you dont need to reinstall to change your video drivers what is your video card and are you using an lcd monitor crt or lcd tv or plasma tv those things are more important than the things you already mentioned
[09:49] <oobe> walker no  i havent
[09:49] <oobe> im thinking about it though
[09:50] <oobe> the guide is a bit outdated its for hardy and some of the links dont work
[09:50] <walker> Well, i had problems installing stuff into the client from the control center (on the server)... so i installed most stuff in the console... seems to work out... but is there no mythbuntu-frontend anymore?
[09:51] <oobe> on the client
[09:51] <oobe> i cant really help sorry
[09:51] <walker> yes? i can't find the executeable...
[09:52] <walker> no, i'ts ok... just thought maybe someone knew something ;)
[09:52] <oobe> perhaps the image on the server needs to have the /usr/bin/mythfrontend
[09:52] <oobe> what you said is so true console always works
[09:52] <walker> well, mythfrontend is there...
[09:53] <oobe> but most ubuntu documentation tends to lead people to gui apps
[09:53] <oobe> so can the client boot ok and run mythfrontend
[09:53] <walker> well, i guess it's okay for most people :) but guess we are some oldies who like the console :P
[09:54] <walker> it boots, but it won't connect to mysql server :(
[09:54] <user1> I'm using a lcd,, let me check
[09:54] <walker> maybe they removed the mythbuntu-frontend-wrapper ;)
[09:55] <walker> anyway, i'm running server on a virtual Xen machine :P works pretty nice
[09:55] <oobe> nice
[09:55] <oobe> have you seen this
[09:55] <oobe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Hardy/Diskless
[09:56] <walker> just if anyone should be courious ;)
[09:56] <oobe> * If you installed new packages, you have to update the compressed file system:
[09:56] <oobe>     * $ sudo ltsp-update-image
[09:56] <user1> it's just a normal LCD screen,
[09:57] <user1> I'm going to have to configure that x11/xorg file ?
[09:57] <walker> sure :)
[09:58] <oobe> user1, yes and most likely install the right drivers for you video card which you have neglected to mention what type it is
[09:58] <user1> I don't know what it is
[09:58] <user1> how can I tell
[09:58] <user1> it's a generic lcd from compusa
[09:59] <oobe> user1 this will tell you lspci -v | grep VGA
[10:00] <user1>  sorry I'm a bit of a newb, how can I get to a console? I boot up to a grabled screen
[10:00] <user1> ctrl+backspace?
[10:01] <user1> I'm booting it now
[10:01] <oobe> ctl + alt + f2
[10:01] <user1> thanks
[10:01] <oobe> thats ok
[10:01] <oobe> i will help you as much as i can
[10:02] <user1> it seems frozen after it booted, I just see a purplish mythbuntu
[10:02] <user1> crrl+alt+f2 don't seem to do anything
[10:03] <user1> let me try a ps2 keyboard..
[10:04] <oobe> try rebooting it again
[10:05] <user1> just rebooted with a different keyboard, seems to be the same
[10:05] <user1> it seems pretty quick to boot
[10:05] <oobe> or booting it in recovery  mode or whatever its called
[10:06] <oobe> well hope you can get on ok this time
[10:07] <oobe> if you cant just boot the livecd and open a console from the desktop and type lspci -v | grep VGA
[10:08] <oobe> if the desktop wont load then press ctl + alt + f1 or f2
[10:08] <oobe> and do it from there
[10:08] <walker> hey, i actually got it running :P
[10:08] <user1> I think I'll have to do that
[10:09] <oobe> walker, nice how
[10:11] <walker> well, i made the error myself... i accedently did something resulting in placing a empty mysql.txt file in the overlay...
[10:12] <oobe> oh ok
[10:13] <oobe> im interested in diskless servers but my remote fe is already setup and it doesnt make much noise
[10:13] <user1> The graphics card is on the motherboard,
[10:13] <user1> But the lspci did return something
[10:13] <oobe> can you add as many apps as you want to your image on the server side?
[10:14] <oobe> and does it save changes or simply restore
[10:14] <oobe> user1, this is an example of what i want you to show me "02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1)"
[10:15] <user1> ah
[10:15] <user1> thanks
[10:15] <user1> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series]
[10:15] <walker> having trouble detecting vga adapter?
[10:16] <walker> oh my
[10:16] <user1> on the trial mode (booting off DVD) it works
[10:16] <walker> need ati driver
[10:16] <oobe> user1, ok im guessing if you cant boot into your fresh install you may be better off reinstalling then searching for guides on install ati drivers
[10:17] <oobe> there is a handy applicatation that will automate the process of installing ati and nvidia drivers
[10:17] <oobe> which i use myself
[10:17] <walker> is it still called fglrx ?
[10:17] <oobe> envy
[10:17] <oobe> its now called envyng
[10:18] <oobe> sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk once you have reinstalled
[10:18] <oobe> then let it walk you thru the setup
[10:18] <walker> okay :) how's the performance an compatibility on ati's these days?
[10:18] <oobe> walker, im an nvidia man
[10:18] <oobe> most people are if they have a choice
[10:19] <oobe> but envy does support ati aswell
[10:19] <walker> me 2 ;) especialy after running LinuxMCE for a while
[10:19] <oobe> and i trust it and it
[10:19] <oobe> use it
[10:19] <user1> is it a poor monitor or graphics card?
[10:20] <user1> my other question is, when would I be able to do the apt-get? I'd have to do it before rebooting possibly
[10:20] <walker> well, i don't think it's poor in general, but my experience is that nvidia is better supported...
[10:21] <oobe> user1, if you can boot into console on your current install the you can do it from there
[10:21] <oobe> if you are doing a fresh install then you will be doing it on first boot
[10:21] <Technophil1> Do you mind if I ask, I am not sure about having multiple frontends with different video cards, can they boot diskless and will they need separate images as they have different video cards?
[10:22] <oobe> user1, what walker said is true ati and nvidia are both the top cards for grapics but nvidia supports linux better
[10:22] <user1> unfortuantly I think I'm going to have to reinstall
[10:22] <walker> Technophil1: you can have multiple FE's with differing video cards. no problem
[10:23] <oobe> ok user1 do that then and message me when your done
[10:23] <walker> Technophil1: You can install the drivers on the diskless image and then have a differing xorg.conf in the overlay.
[10:23] <oobe> make sure you put my nick in the sentence as it alerts me
[10:23] <Technophil1> So there is an image and an overlay for each frontend?
[10:24] <user1> oobe: I have a 1TB drive with 1gig of ram, I was going to do: 2gig swap, 250 / ext4, 250 /home ext4, 250 /videos XFS
[10:25] <walker> no, theres one general image in /opt/ltsp and an overlay for each FE in /var/cache/mythbuntu-diskless/
[10:26] <Technophil1> So one manually edits the overlay files - or possibly alternatively does it from the frontend?
[10:27] <walker> Technophil1: exactly ;)
[10:28] <Technophil1> I'll give it a whirl when I get to that bit, thank you Walker, I am much obliged to you.
[10:28] <user1> should I do the "Open Source Driver" or "AMD Graphics" ?
[10:28] <walker> Technophil1: no problem ;)
[10:29] <oobe> user1, make / only 30GB you wont need more than that if you want a /home then put a little more than 30GB but you wont need it for a dedicate myth then use all the rest for video
[10:30] <oobe> just my suggestion
[10:30] <user1> thanks
[10:30] <oobe> so that way you will have space for lots of recordings which often take up a lot of room
[10:31] <oobe> user1, if you still on that page try the open source one
[10:31] <user1> a terabyte is pretty insane in itself
[10:32] <oobe> these are my partitions
[10:32] <oobe> /dev/sda5              20G  6.3G   12G  35% /
[10:32] <oobe> /dev/sda6              28G   12G   15G  46% /home
[10:32] <oobe> /dev/sda1              18G  8.9G  9.0G  50% /mnt/xp
[10:32] <oobe> /dev/sdb1             932G  861G   71G  93% /data
[10:32] <oobe> /dev/sda8             166G  160G  6.0G  97% /mnt/mythtv
[10:32] <walker> i think i have 2 TB on one of my setups
[10:32] <oobe> i think it speaks for itself
[10:32] <oobe> /mnt/mythtv is for my recordings and /data is a 1TB just for mostly downloaded videos
[10:33] <oobe> like for archiving i watch them in mythvideo
[10:33] <user1> I think it crashed.. I didn't reboot, clicked the install icon, didn't reformat, and now I can't move the mouse
[10:33] <user1> the hard drive is not spinning either..
[10:33] <user1> I'll reboot..
[10:33] <oobe> where abouts were you in setup
[10:34] <oobe> i guess if you rebooting try the AMD graphics
[10:34] <user1> I had just entered the data about partitioning, username, timezone,
[10:34] <user1> I did try the amd before, with the same results
[10:34] <oobe> and it formated your disks
[10:35] <oobe> or froze when trying to format
[10:35] <user1> this is the first time I elected to not format
[10:35] <oobe> hmm ok ignore what i said about selecting amd drivers
[10:35] <oobe> just do it all the same again and see what happens
[10:36] <user1> thanks for your help
[10:36] <oobe> make sure you select basic install i havent used mythbuntu installer since 8.04 but  i think there are 2 options one is advanced and the other is basic
[10:37] <oobe> the advanced one will try to map your network and ask a tonne of unecessary questions
[10:38] <oobe> also the alternate installer is much more stable
[10:39] <oobe> you can try downloading the xbuntu alternate installer for 9.04 and the install mythbuntu-desktop from there
[10:39] <oobe> it will probably work out better
[10:40] <user1> ok, it's formatting
[10:41] <user1> I'll download the alternate, hopefully I won't need it
[10:44] <oobe> yeah hope so
[10:44] <oobe> to  tell you the truth i never had much luck with mythbuntu installers
[10:44] <oobe> i generally install kubuntu then install the mythbuntu-desktop
[10:45] <user1> I got myth working on ubuntu 6 I think, it was a pain
[10:45] <oobe> but i use my mythbox as a desktop aswell
[10:45] <user1> anything to make that easier
[10:45] <oobe> gonna have dinner soon so i will bbiab
[10:45] <user1> yeah I probablly will to
[10:45] <user1> thanks for your help
[10:46] <oobe> its ok
[10:46] <oobe> http://www.xubuntu.org/get#jaunty
[10:46] <oobe> get the alternate installer from there if you have any probs
[10:46] <oobe> with installation
[11:05] <user1> got to the last screen, same white square problem, then I ctrl_alt+F2 and did the sudo apt-get envyng-gtk as you suggested
[11:17] <user1> couldn't ctrl+alt+f1 back to original screen so rebooted
[11:18] <user1> now I can boot up but to same white screen, which is mythfrontend.real  I can alt+tab out of that and close it
[11:18] <user1> the screen works, just mythtvfrontend doesn't work
[11:43] <oobe> you need to setup mythtv first before mythfrontend
[11:44] <oobe> assuming you have installed your drivers correctly with envy your next step would be to launch mythbuntu-control-centre and go thru each step
[11:44] <oobe> then run mythtv-setup
[12:52] <oobe> user1, its ctl alt f7 to get back to x session
[15:07] <CarlFK> what is the package name that installs mythbuntu?
[15:07] <CarlFK> mythbuntu-desktop or something
[15:08] <CarlFK> hmm, seems it is mythbuntu-desktop
[15:10] <superm1> yup
[15:34] <CarlFK> when mysql-server gets installed, it asks for a root pw.  is there any way to pass the pw into the installer (like a preseed file) so it doesn't pause the install process?
[15:36] <superm1> CarlFK, the mythbuntu ubiquity installer handles this
[15:36] <superm1> and yes you can preseed it in ubiquity
[15:36] <CarlFK> superm1: how?
[15:37] <superm1> CarlFK, well er wait you are installing via meta package aren't you
[15:37] <superm1> not live disk
[15:37] <CarlFK> right
[15:37] <superm1> so you should be able to preset the debconf database for the questions that are being asked, but you'll have to look over the maintainer scripts to see what questions need to be filled in
[15:38] <CarlFK> yeah, did that once.  it didnt work.  when the prompt just popped up it reminded me - was hoping to find someone who knew
[15:41] <superm1> well there are several questions that need to be preseeded
[15:42] <superm1> at least 3-5
[15:51] <CarlFK> what I tried: "debconf-get-selections | grep mysql" will tell you what to preseed. and then "cat $preseed_file | debconf-set-selections" before you install
[15:56] <superm1> some of them are mythtv questions
[16:04] <soulfury> anyone know if i'll be able to play higher bitrate h264 with an ati x1900 vs a geforce 7050pv?
[16:06] <CarlFK> nvidia-settings, VALIDATION ERROR:  Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.; Undefined Device "(null)" referenced by Screen "Default Screen".
[16:07] <CarlFK> Segmentation fault - tring to enable crash dump uploader gizmo...
[16:16] <CarlFK> got it: sudo force_start=1 /etc/init.d/apport start
[16:17] <CarlFK> how do I add the terminal (bash shell window launcher) to the launcher?
[16:18] <CarlFK> im used to: find the menu option, right click, pick 'add to launcher'
[16:27] <CarlFK> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/370902
[16:54] <thedarkone>  anyone know if this is a pvr 250?  Hauppauge model 61371, B2
[17:36] <user1> I'm having some trouble getting mythtv-setup.real to work, it behaves as if the font is black on black
[17:37] <user1> I can highlight buttons
[17:37] <user1> I also get some error messages
[17:37] <user1> X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture Parameter) 160 {or 8}
[17:37] <user1> also
[17:38] <user1> mythtv: cound not connect to socket
[17:38] <user1> mythtv: No such file or directory
[17:38] <user1> also
[17:39] <user1> No theme dir: /home/user/.mythtv/themes/Mythbuntu-8.04
[17:39] <user1> the themes directory doesn't exist, and this is not 8.04
[17:39] <user1> using version 9
[17:53] <user1> I'm having some trouble getting mythtv-setup.real to work, it behaves as if the font is black on black
[17:54] <CNLiberal> i'm having some issues with deleteing files from my md RAID5...also, MythWeb isn't showing me that anyprograms are recorded
[17:54] <CNLiberal> when i know there are lots
[17:54] <CNLiberal> i want to delete them, but can't
[17:54] <CNLiberal> also, mythcommflag has been running for quite a while...and i can't kill the process
[18:01] <user1> oobe: I'm having some trouble getting mythtv-setup.real to work, it behaves as if the font is black on black
[18:02] <oobe> did you get your drivers working
[18:02] <oobe> ati drivers
[18:05] <user1> well I think os
[18:05] <user1> so
[18:05] <user1> it's working
[18:05] <user1> if I look closely the screen is not 100% clear like 99.9%
[18:06] <user1> your envy program seemed to have worked
[18:07] <user1> If it wasn't for the BadMatch errors I would think it's a theme problem
[18:09] <oobe_> that Badmatch thing is common
[18:09] <user1> ah
[18:09] <oobe_> are you using gant
[18:10] <user1> if so I think I have a theme problem
[18:10] <thedarkone>  anyone know if this is a pvr 250?  Hauppauge model 61371, B2
[18:10] <user1> sorry I'm not familiar with "gnat"
[18:14] <oobe_> thedarkone, is that from lspci
[18:14] <oobe_> its the default theme
[18:15] <oobe_> for mythtv
[18:15] <user1> oh
[18:15] <user1> well no idea then
[18:15] <user1> I get an error..
[18:15] <user1> No theme dir: /home/user/.mythtv/themes/Mythbuntu-8.04
[18:15] <user1> and it behaves as if all of the fonts are black on black,
[18:16] <oobe_> user1, type this in a console  ln -s /usr/share/mythtv/themes ~/.mythtv
[18:18] <oobe_> its easier if you just copy and paste
[18:18] <oobe_> just open a program like xterm
[18:18] <user1> it's a different machine
[18:19] <user1> ok I created the link
[18:19] <user1> I'll try the setup program again
[18:19] <user1> it's the same
[18:20] <user1> it might not be a font issue
[18:20] <user1> the highlight color is different now,, I remember it being blue, now it is orange
[18:22] <oobe_> i dont know what you mean
[18:23] <user1> in the program I can use the arrow keys to move the highlighted button, or selected textbox
[18:23] <user1> but I can't read any text, when I type in a textbox I cna't see that either
[18:24] <user1> it might not be that the font is black on black, it might be that the program is only partially functional
[18:25] <oobe> rm -rf ~/.mythtv/themecache/*
[18:25] <user1> same deal :(
[18:25] <oobe> then restart the mythtv-setup
[18:26] <oobe> or if you can guide yourself to select a different theme select gant
[18:26] <user1> can you tell me the keystrokes to get there?
[18:27] <user1> in the control center I tried to disable all themes except for one,, this didn't help
[18:28] <oobe> i thinks its likely that you do not have your graphics drivers configured correctly
[18:29] <user1> in the envy program I choose ATI, I think before on this computer I had nvida installed.
[18:29] <oobe> all themes should display fine
[18:29] <user1> everything else seems to work, firefox for instance
[18:29] <oobe> is it the same computer
[18:30] <oobe> firefox doesnt require anything fancy to run
[18:31] <oobe> here you go https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Modifying%20xorg.conf
[18:31] <oobe> i used google for you
[18:31] <user1> thanks,
[18:38] <oobe> im going to bed best of luck
[18:41] <user1> thanks
[20:07] <DarthFrog_> Anybody home?  Knock, knock.  :-)
[20:07] <DarthFrog_> I had sound on Mythbuntu Intrepid working fine.
[20:07] <DarthFrog_> Then I upgraded to Jaunty.  Now I have sound problems.
[20:08] <DarthFrog_> The sound level is *way* down.  Many dB.
[20:08] <DarthFrog_> And twiddling with alsamixer channels does nothing.
[20:08] <DarthFrog_> Pulseaudio is not installed.  I tried it, then ripped it out.
[20:09] <DarthFrog_> Nothing is muted AFAICT.
[20:10] <DarthFrog_> If I crank the volume up (way up!) on my receiver, I can hear sound.  But the S/N ratio is very poor.
[20:21] <KNIGHT3000> Hi, what is the command to use to update from 9.04 RC to 9.04 final?
[20:24] <DarthFrog_> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:27] <KNIGHT3000> thank you sir
[21:02] <KNIGHT3000_> anyone have an issue with the screen being pink?
[21:03] <KNIGHT3000_> I'm using NVIDIA 180.44 driver
[21:07] <superm1> DarthFrog_,check for hidden mixers like front or pcm too
[22:06] <KNIGHT3000_> for mythbuntu is there some like gnome-volume-control?
[23:44] <DarthFrog_> superm1: Been there, done that. If it's in alsamixer, I've twiddled with it.  Nothing is muted, everything is cranked near max.


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[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #191425 in ubuntu "No images in Background tab just colored rectangles" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191425
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #191426 in firefox (main) "Firefox corrupts URLs in Netflix emails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191426
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #191427 in gnome-games (main) "Please sponsor gnome-games 2.21.91 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191427
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #191430 in update-manager (main) "update crashes i cannot install any aplication" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191430
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #191431 in file-roller (main) "file-roller -e and -f options do not extract files as specified, broken feature" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191431
[02:18] <DanielEads> Got an easy debdiffed bug here that's been idling for a week, anyone wanna tie up the end?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kino/+bug/35751
[02:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 35751 in kino "[dapper] Kinos menu entry is just called "Kino"" [Low,In progress]
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #191435 in ubuntu "impossible to install ubuntu-desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191435
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #191438 in python2.5 (main) "can not delete a gDesklet" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191438
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #191439 in bind9 (main) "Please sync bind9 1:9.4.2-3  (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191439
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #191441 in libgeda (universe) "Please sync various bits of geda 1.4.0 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191441
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #191443 in tomboy (main) "Please sponsor tomboy 0.9.6 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191443
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #191444 in cryptsetup (main) "cryptdisk mounting fails at startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191444
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #191454 in powernowd (main) "powernowd not loading under powerpc Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191454
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #191455 in bluez-utils (main) "package bluez-audio 3.26-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_bluetooth.so', which is also in package bluez-utils (dup-of: 191377)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191455
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #191457 in jabberd2 (universe) "Configuration comment is incorrect." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191457
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #191458 in kde4libs (universe) "klauncher crashed with SIGSEGV in poll()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191458
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #191459 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] libnet-upnp-perl" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191459
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #191460 in liblocale-gettext-perl (main) "Please sync liblocale-gettext-perl 1.05-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191460
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #191461 in pccts (main) "Please sync pccts 1.33MR33-4 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191461
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #191462 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crash on start with segment fault rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in main()  (dup-of: 164062)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191462
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #191463 in brasero (main) "Brasero asks whether it should be the default disc burning application" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191463
[05:32] <ubotu> New bug: #191464 in libbonobo (main) "bonobo-activation-server crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_register_dynamic()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191464
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #191467 in ubuntu "in german openoffice the letters in all buttons and menus are greek" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191467
[05:57] <calc> wow that bug sounds cool :-\
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #191469 in update-manager (main) "while upgrading by aptitude update stopped" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191469
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #191470 in kicad (universe) "Pcbnew crashes while attempting 3D view" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191470
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #191471 in clock-setup (main) "Set System Time crashes Time Settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191471
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #191472 in ubuntu "Wrong timestamp on files copied over SSH" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191472
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #191473 in nautilus (main) ""black screen on firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191473
[07:38] <GunbladeIV> Is the vmsplice exploit has been fixed?
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #191475 in nautilus (main) "[hardy] media tab in file management preferences missing applications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191475
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #191477 in linux (main) "Battery status not detected on ASUS L4500R" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191477
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #191478 in netbeans5.5 (multiverse) "Netbeans5.5 on Hardy is not correctly installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191478
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #191479 in linux (main) "[Regression] iwl3945 debug spew" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191479
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #191480 in gnome-panel (main) "ertr" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191480
[08:28] <ubotu> New bug: #191482 in rhythmbox (main) "option to play what a DAAP share is playing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191482
[08:28] <ubotu> New bug: #191484 in onboard (main) "[hardy] on-board crashes immediately" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191484
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #191487 in kdegraphics-kde4 (universe) "libokularcore1 Dependency error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191487
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #191488 in mplayer (multiverse) "[mplayer] [DSA-1496-1] several buffer overflows" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191488
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #191489 in sympa (universe) "fcgi-server doesn't work: wrong permissions for sympa.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191489
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #191491 in thuban (universe) "[hardy] thuban 1.2.0-2 warning compile error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191491
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #191493 in ubuntu "aticonfig --swap-monitor crashes kicker" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191493
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #191495 in evolution (main) "repeating calendar entry doubles up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191495
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #191496 in transmission (main) "Finished torrent with not all files downloaded" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191496
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #191497 in gnome-applets (main) "Gnome panel clock calendar is slow to appear" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191497
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #191502 in r-cran-xml (universe) "saveXML output does properly reflect XML document namespace" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191502
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #191504 in dia (main) "UML element "Object" does not handle resizing with properties" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191504
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #191505 in compiz (main) "Mathematica 6.0 shows odd windows if compiz is running" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191505
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #191506 in pdns "TXT records truncated" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191506
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #191508 in compiz (main) "Compiz doesn't show shadows on Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191508
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #191503 in gnome-screensaver (main) "gnome-screensaver doesn't blank screen on lock with xfwm4 compositing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191503
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #191509 in python2.5 (main) "Python time.sleep() raises exception in multi-threaded app" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191509
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #191510 in bluefish (universe) "Please sync bluefish 1.0.7-3  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191510
[10:30] <blink> hello...
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #191511 in galeon (universe) "dragging icon into toolbar freezes machine" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191511
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #191512 in ubuntu "gnome displays nfs mounts on the desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191512
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #191513 in bluez-utils (main) "package bluez-audio None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/bluez-audio.list] failed to install/upgrade: Versuche, ?/usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_bluetooth.so? zu ?berschreiben, welches auch in Paket bluez-utils ist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191513
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #191514 in unattended-upgrades (main) "Kernel upgrades may leave system unbootable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191514
[10:48] <blink> i run 3ddesk but only 1 desktop[ display..i have put 4 desktop on my panel..and i can switch desktop by mouse scroll but i dont see any 3d zoom..im using compaq intel celeron ram 1gb processor 1.86 ghz..graphic intel ??..
[11:01] <pedro_> good morning!
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #191520 in mdadm (main) "initramfs-error-handling: init-premount mdadm hook script does not get executed." [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191520
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #190891 in mplayer (multiverse) "MPlayer arbitrary pointer dereference in demux_audio.c " [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190891
[11:25] <stiv_> hey everybody ... i have multiple ubuntu-servers w. feisty that i update using my self-signed mirror w. some own packages (works fine!). These machines are not in a LAN, so updating via https would be a good idea, but i fell over this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/109294
[11:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109294 in apt "HTTPS sources fail to update" [Medium,Fix released]
[11:25] <stiv_> it's only fixed in gutsy and i can't find a way to adapt the apt source package (i could build it myself) to fix this issue ... is there a patch?
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #191372 in cheese (main) "crash starting cheese" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191372
[11:29] <gaspa> stiv_: in that bug there's a branch attacched, did you see if it goes well for you?
[11:32] <stiv_> well i haven't tried ... i'm not tat used to launchpad :-) found http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~thombot/+junk/apt/revision/1551 now, i will try this. thanks ;)
[11:33] <dax_roc> Morning all
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #191522 in gnomescan (universe) "flegita dies on probing in scanner utility" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191522
[11:37] <dax_roc> any one come accross boot hanging on irq issue ? "ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:05:01.[A] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19"
[11:38] <dax_roc> *^hardy
[11:38] <gaspa> stiv_: np :)
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #191526 in ardour (universe) "Please sync ardour 1:2.3.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191526
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #191527 in vdr (universe) "Kernel RIP for dvb_ttpci driver (vdr with dvb-s under Hardy)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191527
[11:54] <dax_roc> should the irqpoll option fix this error ?
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #191528 in bluez-utils (main) "package bluez-audio None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/bluez-audio.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_bluetooth.so', which is also in package bluez-utils" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191528
[12:02] <ubotu> New bug: #191529 in clamav-data (universe) "[FFe] General FF exception for clamav-data for hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191529
[12:02] <ubotu> New bug: #191530 in bind9 (main) "Bind9 cannot see sites in .org" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191530
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #191531 in xsane (main) "xsane doesnt let me use the scanner" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191531
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #191532 in soundconvert (universe) "Soundconverter does not start on Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191532
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #191533 in udev (main) "udev do not uses ldap groups (plugdev) for ldap users" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191533
[12:15] <persia> Just as a note for people wishing to do a full 49-hour Bug Day, it's been Thursday for 75 minutes now.
[12:20] <bddebian> Boo
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #191535 in gnokii (universe) "xgnokii calendar import file broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191535
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #191536 in lucene2 (multiverse) "Please move package to universe" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191536
[12:21] <pedro_> buuu!
[12:21] <bddebian> :)
[12:21] <stiv_> gaspa: compiling fails ... error: 'struct pkgAcqMethod::FetchItem' has no member named 'Destfile' [thats in a line i changed in https.cc]. seems to be for a different version :-(
[12:34] <ubotu> New bug: #191538 in ubuntu "[FFe] FF exception to complete the ongoing ghc6 transition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191538
[12:34] <ubotu> New bug: #191539 in adept (main) "Kubuntu: adept_manager crash by uninstalling old linux headers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191539
[12:38] <emgent> heya andrea-bs
[12:39] <emgent> do you remember meeting toaday? :)
[12:39] <emgent> s/toaday/today/
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #191540 in purelibc (universe) "Please sync purelibc 0.3-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191540
[13:06] <Iulian> Hey
[13:14] <pedro_> hey Iulian, how're you today?
[13:15] <ubotu> New bug: #191541 in aptitude (main) "No "Need Restart" notification from Aptitude" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191541
[13:15] <Iulian> Hi there pedro. I'm good, I had some classes in this morning and now I'm home.
[13:16] <Iulian> Thanks for asking... and you?
[13:16] <pedro_> good, are you getting ready for tomorrow hug day? ;-)
[13:16] <pedro_> i'm pretty fine too, thanks
[13:16] <Iulian> Yeah!
[13:16] <pedro_> cool!
[13:17]  * pedro_ hugs Iulian
[13:17] <seb128> hey pedro_ Iulian
[13:17]  * Iulian hugs pedro
[13:17] <Iulian> Hi seb128
[13:17] <pedro_> hey seb128
[13:20] <ubotu> New bug: #191543 in xchat-gnome (main) "xchat-gnome crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_connect()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191543
[13:22] <Iulian> Well, I have to go now, see you later guys
[13:22] <Iulian> Have fun!
[13:23] <persia> pedro_: Tomorrow?  I thought you were doing an "All timezones" bug day.
[13:23] <gaspa> stiv_: i see...
[13:24] <pedro_> persia: well tomorrow for me ;-)
[13:25] <ubotu> New bug: #191544 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Torrentinfo" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191544
[13:25] <ubotu> New bug: #191545 in fvwm (universe) "Please sync fvwm 1:2.5.24-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191545
[13:25] <ubotu> New bug: #191546 in ilmbase (universe) "libilmbase-dev should conflict with libopenexr-dev (<< 1.6.1)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191546
[13:25] <ubotu> New bug: #191547 in gnome-vfs (main) "gnome vfs samba browsing broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191547
[13:25] <ubotu> New bug: #191548 in evolution (main) "Evolution frequently displays "Your Calendar/Tasks will not be available until Evolution is restarted." (Ubuntu 8.04 Alpha 4)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191548
[13:46] <ubotu> New bug: #191555 in dd2 (universe) "[Sync Request Universe] dd2 0.2.2-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191555
[13:46] <ubotu> New bug: #191556 in ubuntu "please sync package extra-xdg-menus from debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191556
[13:46] <ubotu> New bug: #191557 in dmraid (universe) "Main inclusion report." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191557
[13:47] <ubotu> New bug: #191549 in banshee (universe) "banshee should depend on libtaglib2.0-cil" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191549
[13:47] <ubotu> New bug: #191550 in ubuntu "[Sync Request Universe] qonk 0.3.1-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191550
[13:47] <ubotu> New bug: #191552 in evolution (main) "The function "Subscribe to other user's folder" for an exchange account exit with a generic error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191552
[13:51] <ubotu> New bug: #191558 in etw (universe) "[Sync Request Universe] etw 3.2+svn125-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191558
[14:05] <ubotu> New bug: #191559 in gnome-power-manager (main) "GPM reports battery twice" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191559
[14:20] <ubotu> New bug: #191561 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] NMR Friend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191561
[14:25] <ubotu> New bug: #191562 in libusb (main) "provides libusb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191562
[14:25] <ubotu> New bug: #191563 in openldap2.3 (main) "[hardy] slapd CLEARTEXT password migration issue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191563
[14:31] <ubotu> New bug: #191564 in partman-dmraid (universe) "main inclusion report" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191564
[14:36] <ubotu> New bug: #190533 in libjpeg6b (main) "rhythmbox-metadata crashed with SIGSEGV in jpeg_idct_ifast()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190533
[14:41] <ubotu> New bug: #191565 in linda (main) "false warning when checking CLI packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191565
[14:41] <ubotu> New bug: #191566 in openldap2.3 (main) "[hardy] slapd ProxyCache regression found in qa-regression-tests" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191566
[14:55] <ubotu> New bug: #191568 in ubuntu "I can not burn any DVD to more than 4X" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191568
[14:55] <ubotu> New bug: #191570 in lordsawar (universe) "[Sync Request Universe] lordsawar 0.0.8-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191570
[14:58] <alfred> so i am ready to help
[14:58] <alfred> what do i do next?
[15:05] <ubotu> New bug: #191574 in fet (universe) "Doesn't have a .desktop file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191574
[15:05] <ubotu> New bug: #191575 in wine (universe) "wine segfaults on winecfg, hardy x86_64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191575
[15:10] <a7p> hi everyon
[15:11] <ubotu> New bug: #191577 in gparted (main) "gparted doesn't start in hardy after today's update..." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191577
[15:11] <ubotu> New bug: #191578 in firefox (main) "[hardy] rendering issues" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191578
[15:12] <a7p> +e. Im just writing a patch, and I'd like to know which way of creating a dev/null is preferable: "mknod -m 666 $targetdir/dev/null c 1 3" or doing the same via cp -a /dev/null $targetdir/dev/null ?
[15:13] <a7p> arg, a patch for a chroot script.
[15:13] <a7p> chroot-creation-script.
[15:15] <ubotu> New bug: #191579 in libxcb (main) "Java crashes while accessing X11" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191579
[15:15] <ubotu> New bug: #191580 in file (main) "file reports JPEG image as Minix Filesystem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191580
[15:15] <ubotu> New bug: #191581 in ubuntu "latest updates in Hardy break Bluetooth Mouse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191581
[15:46] <ubotu> New bug: #191587 in terminator (universe) "Please sync terminator 0.7-1  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191587
[15:46] <ubotu> New bug: #191588 in ubuntu-artwork (main) "Wrong Home Page in Heron" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191588
[15:46] <ubotu> New bug: #191589 in gdm (main) "Keyboard stops responding after inactivity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191589
[15:46] <ubotu> New bug: #191590 in ubuntu "after startup apt-get update not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191590
[15:47] <ubotu> New bug: #191585 in ubuntu "Black screen after installing Xubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191585
[15:47] <ubotu> New bug: #191586 in eclipse (universe) "eclipse-platform unnecessarily requires firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191586
[15:48] <ubotu> New bug: #191582 in bluez-utils (main) "package bluez-audio None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/bluez-audio.list] failed to install/upgrade: zkouším přepsat soubor `/usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_bluetooth.so', který je také v balíku bluez-utils" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191582
[16:00] <ubotu> New bug: #191595 in ubuntu "gnome-appearance-manager custom visual effects radio button disappeared" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191595
[16:00] <ubotu> New bug: #191596 in ufw (main) "ufw: should not have to enable ip_forward in sysctl.conf" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191596
[16:16] <ubotu> New bug: #191599 in sound-juicer (main) "no sound at all in linux mint. also need help with nvidia installation???" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191599
[16:29] <ubotu> New bug: #191600 in compiz (main) "Speaker icon too big on volume changes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191600
[16:31] <ubotu> New bug: #191601 in ubuntu "Easy application uninstall" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191601
[16:31] <ubotu> New bug: #191602 in bluez-utils (main) "package bluez-audio 3.26-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_bluetooth.so', which is also in package bluez-utils" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191602
[16:50] <ubotu> New bug: #191608 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Firefox-3.0 fails to start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191608
[17:05] <ubotu> New bug: #191609 in bash (main) "Warn people when they execute harmfull shell commands" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191609
[17:10] <ubotu> New bug: #191610 in auth-client-config (main) "auth-client-config dies on '%'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191610
[17:11] <ubotu> New bug: #191611 in turbogears (universe) "Please sync turbogears <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191611
[17:11] <ubotu> New bug: #191612 in ubuntu "new update from ubunto does not work so i had to use cd to get online" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191612
[17:11] <ubotu> New bug: #191613 in ubuntu "[hardy] suspend to ram doesn't work on intel i965 chipset mobo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191613
[17:50] <ubotu> New bug: #191618 in ubuntu "[8643.161941] Power down" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191618
[17:50] <ubotu> New bug: #191620 in stormbaancoureur (universe) "stormbaancoureur segfaults" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191620
[17:50] <ubotu> New bug: #191621 in drupal5 (universe) "Please merge drupal5 5.7-1 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191621
[18:28] <ubotu> New bug: #191633 in evolution (main) "[hardy] windows are still too large" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191633
[18:31] <ubotu> New bug: #191634 in evince (main) "Boken Evince support for cbr and cbz files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191634
[18:33] <ubotu> New bug: #191627 in terminator (universe) "terminator crashed with GError in reconfigure_vte()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191627
[18:33] <ubotu> New bug: #191628 in monodevelop (universe) "monodevelop crashes with c++ project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191628
[18:35] <ubotu> New bug: #191636 in libvirt (main) "[hardy] dnsmasq fails to start the dhcp server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191636
[18:45] <ubotu> New bug: #191631 in bug-buddy (main) "[hardy] bug reporting tool gives error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191631
[18:50] <ubotu> New bug: #191638 in alsa-oss (universe) "Too difficult to get real player running on 64 bit ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191638
[18:53] <bdmurray> seb128: the casper task in bug 144931 should be Invalid then right?
[18:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 144931 in casper "gnome-keyring-manager pops up after connecting to wireless network" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144931
[18:53] <ubotu> New bug: #191629 in poppler (main) "pdf viewers hidding part of the text" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191629
[18:56] <ubotu> New bug: #191640 in evolution (main) "[hardy] evolution starts VERY slow (minutes)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191640
[19:01] <ubotu> New bug: #191642 in linux (main) "test filing a linux-source-2.6.24 bug" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191642
[19:01] <seb128> bdmurray: correct
[19:02] <bdmurray> seb128: okay, I'll take care of that
[19:16] <ubotu> New bug: #191646 in compiz (main) "[hardy] Xorg freeze at multi user logon, when both uses compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191646
[19:21] <ubotu> New bug: #191649 in ubuntu "kernel panic on resume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191649
[19:21] <ubotu> New bug: #191650 in compiz (main) "[hardy] there's no 'custom' desktop effect profile after installing ccsm" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191650
[19:29] <alfred> so to get started do i jus pick a bug?
[19:30] <alfred> i want to help out with ekiga so i subscribed
[19:32] <ubotu> New bug: #191654 in ubuntu "Activate font auto hinting by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191654
[19:38] <ubotu> New bug: #191655 in evince (main) "bug in "reverse" order printing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191655
[19:38] <ubotu> New bug: #191656 in db2exc (partner) "postrm script fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191656
[19:46] <ubotu> New bug: #191658 in ubuntu "GlassFish V2 UR1" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191658
[19:50] <ubotu> New bug: #191660 in gnubg (universe) "gnubg crashed when I select settings > appearance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191660
[20:05] <ubotu> New bug: #191663 in lvm2 (main) "[hardy] lvm2 update fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191663
[20:05] <ubotu> New bug: #191665 in ubuntu "Ejecting disk leads to error 'cannot eject' while ejecting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191665
[20:06] <zirpu> i wish i had time to help.  my job gets in my way. :)
[20:11] <ubotu> New bug: #191662 in ubuntu "New package for ubuntu-gdm-themes" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191662
[20:25] <ubotu> New bug: #191668 in linux (main) "sparc tg3 nic port mismatch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191668
[20:30] <ubotu> New bug: #191670 in ubuntu "Please sync ustr 1.0.3-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191670
[20:50] <ubotu> New bug: #191671 in gnome-panel (main) "Main menu navigation glitch when gtk_key_theme=Emacs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191671
[20:50] <ubotu> New bug: #191672 in ubuntu "HAL don't work if I don't plug in the device at boot time" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191672
[20:51] <ubotu> New bug: #191669 in amarok (main) "amarokcollectionscanner crashed scanning smb or smbfs drive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191669
[20:51] <ubotu> New bug: #191673 in update-manager (main) "bug against update manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191673
[21:11] <ubotu> New bug: #191674 in gnome-settings-daemon (main) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191674
[21:11] <ubotu> New bug: #191675 in ubuntu "Log Out Dialog of Gnome hangs in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191675
[21:20] <ubotu> New bug: #191678 in totem (main) "corrupted picture/colors for all movie data, sound working normal, at random (?) occurrences" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191678
[21:26] <ubotu> New bug: #191680 in etckeeper (universe) "etckeeper should default to bzr in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191680
[21:50] <ubotu> New bug: #191683 in python-crypto "pycrypto's SHA256 gives wrong answers if input block length % 56 is 0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191683
[22:08] <ubotu> New bug: #191685 in bind9 (main) "[hardy]: bind9 does not remove /var/lib/bind on purge" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191685
[22:15] <ubotu> New bug: #191686 in gnome-control-center (main) "package capplets-data 1:2.21.90-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191686
[22:25] <ubotu> New bug: #191688 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Kernel Oops NULL Pointer dereference on i2o_proc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191688
[22:31] <ubotu> New bug: #191690 in nautilus (main) "nautilus "cannot display directory, change viewer" when opening locations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191690
[22:31] <ubotu> New bug: #191692 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_return_if_fail_warning()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191692
[22:36] <ubotu> New bug: #191691 in xchat-gnome (universe) "To prevent dcc exploit, default port should be 8001 for irc.ubuntu.com" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191691
[22:36] <ubotu> New bug: #191693 in ubuntu "[Hardy Alpha 4] Clock preferences window is always on top when it shouldn't." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191693
[22:56] <ubotu> New bug: #191695 in ubuntu "e1000 driver update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191695
[23:11] <ubotu> New bug: #191697 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "displayconfig-gtk don't work (dup-of: 151647)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191697
[23:13] <ubotu> New bug: #127905 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127905
[23:13] <ubotu> New bug: #133268 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133268
[23:13] <ubotu> New bug: #191696 in abiword ""Format" menu doesn't contain "Page" (or "Document") entry in AbiWord 2.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191696
[23:16] <ubotu> New bug: #191700 in ontv (universe) "Ontv uses lots of CPU and memory when updating tv listings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191700
[23:35] <ubotu> New bug: #191704 in bluez-utils (main) "hidd binary removed form bluez-utils package unable to connect as a result" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191704
[23:40] <ubotu> New bug: #191705 in update-manager (main) "failed dapper to hardy upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191705


[02:09] <skellat> Well, this something for folks to play with: http://gopherpedia.com/
[02:09] <jenni> [ gopherpedia.com ] - https://j.mp/1eWAndv
[02:09] <skellat> It is also addressable at gopher://gopherpedia.com
[03:25] <skellat> .wx 44004
[03:26] <jenni> Cover: Cloudy, Temp: 15°C, Dew Point: 14°C, Pressure: 1018mb, Wind: Light breeze 6kt (↑) - LFRS 03:00Z
[03:26] <skellat> That's wrong Jenni
[03:26] <drkokandy> bad jenni
[03:26] <skellat> .wx KHZY
[03:26] <jenni> Cover: Clear ☼, Temp: 62.6°F (17°C), Dew Point: 60.8°F (16°C), Pressure: 30.04in (1014mb), Condition: Shallow Fog, Mist, Wind: Light breeze 4kt (↑) - KYNG, 02:51Z
[03:26] <skellat> Slightly more realistic
[03:27] <skellat> Even though the data is from Youngstown instead of Ashtabula
[03:27] <skellat> .wx KCLE
[03:27] <jenni> Cover: Scattered, Temp: 69.8°F (21°C), Dew Point: 62.6°F (17°C), Pressure: 30.02in (1013mb), Wind: Gentle breeze 10kt (↑) - KCLE 02:51Z
[03:35]  * skellat is listening to Nerdist 409 -- http://www.nerdist.com/2013/09/nerdist-podcast-jonah-ray-donovan/
[03:35] <jenni> [ Nerdist Podcast: Jonah Ray Donovan « Nerdist ] - https://j.mp/19j2GeL
[03:57]  * drkokandy is trying to figure out why drupal keeps sending itself email
[04:16] <drkokandy> fixed
[04:16] <drkokandy> bedtime
[06:29] <Unit193> paultag: http://imgur.com/gallery/XvT2G
[06:29] <jenni> [ How to speak Boston - Imgur ] - https://j.mp/1eXaEBG
[18:14] <paultag> Unit193: hahaha
[18:14] <paultag> so true


[00:30] <stgraber> wendar: around?
[00:30] <wendar> stgraber: yup
[00:30] <stgraber> wendar: i found why you don't get the icon for the calculator
[00:30] <stgraber> wendar: typo in debian/control
[00:31] <stgraber> wendar: your Icon field contains .svg where it should be .png
[00:31] <stgraber> I confirmed that here I can see all the icons in SC except for that one, so that must be the issue
[00:31] <wendar> stgraber: ah, makes sense
[00:31] <stgraber> wendar: can you fix and upload a new version to the PPA?
[00:31] <wendar> I can't see any of the icons, but probably an older version of SC
[00:31] <wendar> Yup, I'll do that now
[00:32] <stgraber> cool, thanks
[00:32]  * ajmitch wonders if we should make a general rule to push package branches to the app-review-board project after uploading to the PPA
[00:32] <stgraber> as I said, here it's not perfect either, it takes some convincing to get SC to load the icons the first time (opening the app page usually does the trick), then it uses it fine
[00:32] <ajmitch> though keeping them in sync may be problematic
[00:33] <wendar> stgraber: ah, if I do that it works for the lenses
[00:33] <stgraber> wendar: ok, same behavior I have here then, just doesn't work with the calculator because it's actually broken ;)
[00:33] <wendar> stgraber: not perfect, but a usable work around until the SC bug is fixed
[00:34] <stgraber> yeah ...
[00:34] <stgraber> I need to make a note to poke mvo on Friday about the SRU
[00:35] <ajmitch> are there any changes that really need to go into precise? I expect that as an LTS, there'll be submissions targetting precise for quite awhile
[00:36] <wendar> ajmitch: most of the changes we need are on the server side of SC
[00:36] <wendar> ajmitch: so, not so much bound by release cycles
[00:36] <ajmitch> what about development tools like quickly?
[00:36] <stgraber> I think we're mostly good in Precise, wouldn't hurt to publish an app for testing though. I usually copy one of the small apps for that (the lenses will fail because of API mismatch).
[00:36] <ajmitch> sorry if I'm drifting off-topic :)
[00:37] <ajmitch> stgraber: I'll update my LP lens for precise soon, it could be used to test breakage
[00:37]  * stgraber goes out to grab some food, bbiab
[00:37] <stgraber> ajmitch: that'd be nice
[00:56] <wendar> stgraber: fix submitted, thanks for the catch!
[07:46] <dholbach> good morning
[08:14] <ajmitch> morning dholbach
[08:14] <dholbach> hi ajmitch
[08:14]  * ajmitch just got home, tuesdays are long days :)
[17:21] <stgraber> whoever takes care of the new lenses/scopes in the queue, let me know if you need any help with apparmor
[17:22] <stgraber> (it's not strictly mandatory but really a good idea to ship a profile as it's fairly easy to do for the unity extensions)
[18:55] <wendar> why do all these app developers add "-public#" to their version numbers
[18:55] <wendar> ?
[18:56] <wendar> it's like they're all reading the same odd app development guide
[18:56] <wendar> but, no clue where they're getting it from
[18:57] <wendar> is anyone working on Revision Monitor
[18:58] <wendar> and, any opinions on whether we should require the Guallet developer to fix the translations on that one screen before we launch?
[18:58] <wendar> (it's not one of our strict criteria, but seems to fit with the idea of being "useful for general audiences")
[19:15] <ajmitch> it'd be nice to get the translation fixed before uploading
[22:41] <ajmitch> that's interesting, mixd.tv was submitted as a binary package, gpl v2, and the website download page requires logging in for a private beta
[22:50] <wendar> it may be that the GPLv2 license is a mistake
[22:50] <wendar> and, it actually belongs on the "no cost, proprietary" side
[22:51] <wendar> ajmitch: I asked him for the source anyway
[22:51] <wendar> ajmitch: I also asked Guallet to fix the translation problem
[22:51] <ajmitch> ok
[22:51] <wendar> ajmitch: if mixd.tv responds and says "I don't want to release the source" then we bounce it back to  John Pugh
[22:52] <ajmitch> fair enough, that's what I'd expect, but I don't think I've got a button to do that
[22:53] <stgraber> Submit to MyApps is supposed to do that (as weirdly as it's called ...)
[22:54] <ajmitch> oh right :)
[22:54] <wendar> ajmitch: actually, you may want to add a comment to mixd.tv asking about the private beta thing
[22:54] <wendar> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/627/feedback/
[22:55] <wendar> ajmitch: they do say it's "open source" on the website, but, don't seem to be distributing it...
[23:03] <ajmitch> wendar: commented
[23:03] <ajmitch> I *think* that comment gets emailed to the submitter
[23:05] <wendar> ajmitch: yeah, I *think* so too, but not entirely sure
[23:06] <wendar> ajmitch: those comments don't get forwarded to the app-review-board list, which is what made me doubt
[23:06] <wendar> ajmitch: so I also emailed my comment (on crabhack) to the author, just to make sure they got it
[23:06] <wendar> ajmitch: and, he replied to my email
[23:07] <wendar> ajmitch: <shrug>


[16:06] <snwh> who can I bug about small Ubuntu Touch problems?
[17:54] <snwh> mpt, how does the system settings menu relate to the Device menu?
[17:54] <mpt> snwh, system settings menu?
[17:55] <snwh> the system settings*
[17:55] <mpt> snwh, there will be no device menu on the phone at least
[17:56] <snwh> so it's getting killed off?
[17:59] <snwh> mpt, i was only even aware of the Device menu by accident; tapping on the bar in an attempt to reveal the search
[18:00] <mpt> ah, right
[18:00] <snwh> (shouldn't those also be swipe down, like the indicators? that's what I find myself doing anyway)
[18:00] <mpt> Shouldn't which be swipe down? The search?
[18:01] <snwh> i mean they could be
[18:01] <snwh> i had no idea that it was tap
[18:02] <snwh> I'm really just nitpicking here, mpt. :-)
[18:02] <mpt> Nitpicking is god
[18:03] <mpt> Nitpicking is good, too :-)
[18:03] <snwh> in that case, let me get my list
[18:03] <snwh> :P
[18:03] <snwh> I joke
[18:03] <snwh> mpt, but where can bugs be filed about for that sort of thing?
[18:07] <mpt> snwh, as long as there's no code yet, I suggest the ubuntu-phone@ mailing list
[18:08] <snwh> okay


[00:45] <gdi2k> I am having horrible redraw issues in libreoffice calc in Xubuntu 14.04 that I didn't have in 13.04 - it is unworkable. Any ideas how I might fix? When I scroll through spreadsheets, the content is not updated, just gets garbled / repeated from the previous screen area
[00:45] <gdi2k> using Core2 Duo, so in-built Intel graphics
[00:47] <amigamagic> have you tried to disable compositing?
[00:48] <gdi2k> it's already disabled due to skype popup messages not working with it enabled
[00:49] <amigamagic> I think it's a vga driver problem (for your particular gpu)
[00:50] <amigamagic> are you sure it's an intel graphics the gpu?
[00:50] <amigamagic> Core2Duo don't have an integrated GPU
[00:51] <amigamagic> modern i3, i5, i7 could have it (but not all of them)
[00:51] <gdi2k> I think the laptop ones did... mine looks like this:
[00:51] <gdi2k> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[00:52] <gdi2k> Processor is: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8600  @ 2.40GHz
[00:52] <amigamagic> then you can try to boot with an older kernel
[00:54] <amigamagic> however, your cpu has not a gpu inside it
[00:54] <amigamagic> that gpu is integrated on your mainboard
[00:54] <gdi2k> right yes, it's not on the die like the new ones
[00:57] <amigamagic> at my office I have a Pentium G3220 with an Intel HD Graphics integrated in its die. For its price it's a pretty fast CPU, I have to say... And it doesn't give me garbled scrolling when I use calc.
[00:57] <gdi2k> sounds like a mission to play with kernels, especially as I have no idea which version will work. found some graphics cache settings in libre, will play with that
[00:57] <gdi2k> yes, we use basic pentiums and celerons in our office too - they are very nippy on xubuntu
[00:58] <gdi2k> no issues with graphics on them
[00:58] <gdi2k> but still running 12.04...
[00:58] <amigamagic> I installed 14.04 and it's very fast and without graphics problems
[00:59] <gdi2k> ok that's good to hear
[01:00] <gdi2k> will leave it a couple of months before making the jump - have about 20 PCs and don't want to take any risks too early ;)
[01:00] <amigamagic> but on another machine, with ubuntu 12.04, there are some issues (similar to yours) on a intel HD Graphics integrated in a Xeon CPU
[01:01] <amigamagic> those intel drivers for linux are not so great...
[01:01] <gdi2k> I've been happy with mine since 12.04, but now it's going backwards...
[01:02] <amigamagic> gdi2k, if 12.04 is good for you, then stick with that until there is support
[01:02] <amigamagic> especially if they are working machines
[01:03] <gdi2k> on my personal machine the upgrade is done! no going back...
[01:03] <gdi2k> but on the office machines I will leave it for now
[01:04] <amigamagic> good choice
[01:06] <gdi2k> 12.04 is still supported for another aeon or so anyway lol
[01:08] <Artemis3> more like 2015 (2017 the base stuff)
[01:34] <xubuntu080> Help
[01:35] <knome> xubuntu080, ask your question
[01:38] <xubuntu080> How do I from a terminal install a update to xubuntu 14 without having in reinstall?  am on ubuntu 13.10
[01:39] <xubuntu080> I want a secure and clean install not a developer ... stable
[01:41] <knome> xubuntu080, why do you need to do it in a terminal?
[01:41] <knome> xubuntu080, also, are you running ubuntu 13.10 or xubuntu 13.10?
[02:03] <deddokatana> tester is in, anyone need support?
[02:05] <xubuntu080> sorry got sidetracked
[02:05] <xubuntu080> Is there a better way to update to a stable
[02:06] <deddokatana> than which method
[02:06] <deddokatana> ?
[02:06] <deddokatana> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:06] <deddokatana> but make sure you apt-get update first
[02:07] <deddokatana> novice joke - "whats wrong with a house? :D"
[02:08] <xubuntu080> I am on ubuntu 13.10 want xubuntu 14.4
[02:08] <deddokatana> my terminal says that do-dist-upgrade is no longer in use
[02:09] <kupo> update-manager -d
[02:09] <deddokatana> ok, paste this and tell me what happens,,,
[02:09] <knome> deddokatana, that's a sign you should stop guessing.
[02:09] <deddokatana> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:10] <knome> running those commands will not upgrade the release to 14.04
[02:10] <knome> xubuntu080, you can't exactly upgrade ubuntu to xubuntu...
[02:10] <knome> xubuntu080, but to get to 14.04, and insist on upgrading in terminal, run 'sudo do-release-upgrade'
[02:11] <deddokatana> other than install the very messy solution:
[02:11] <deddokatana> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:12] <xubuntu080> So whats the best way to upgrade like I want to?
[02:12] <deddokatana> not recommended for those who like a lean desktop
[02:12] <deddokatana> knome is the ranking officer
[02:12] <knome> xubuntu080, there is no way to upgrade from ubuntu to xubuntu
[02:12] <Guest19608> sudo update-manager -d
[02:12] <Guest19608> type that in terminal and see what happens
[02:12] <xubuntu080> OK lol
[02:12] <knome> xubuntu080, you will both need to upgrade to 14.04 and install the xubuntu desktop metapackage, but that won't remove the ubuntu desktop metapackage
[02:13] <Guest19608> it's how i got to 14.04 beta from from 13.10
[02:13] <xubuntu080> ok I see so unity will still be on and all the other residuals from ubuntu unity...
[02:13] <xubuntu080> ok
[02:15] <xubuntu080> Can you for instance update to 14.04, then remove the desktop meta and overlay of ubuntu and then install the xubuntu meta
[02:15] <knome> xubuntu080, that's not completely problem-free, or trivial
[02:15] <deddokatana> grab your usb thumbdrive, boot and use the "upgrade" option
[02:16] <deddokatana> from a unetbootin image
[02:16] <knome> deddokatana, stop posting random "solutions"
[02:16] <deddokatana> make sure you got the latest one
[02:17] <xubuntu080> Oh well I wanted to explore a few suggestions from the experts... its good to get the skinny before... saves time
[02:41] <xubuntu983> hello
[02:41] <xubuntu983> how is everyone in here
[04:17] <oneof3> hello. will is there a command to update openvpn or does it auto update?
[04:18] <holstein> oneof3: did you install it with the package manager from the default repos?
[04:27] <oneof3> i am not sure, sorry
[04:28] <holstein> oneof3: if you install software from the default sources using a package manager, then the package manager updates it along with everything else
[04:28] <holstein> oneof3: if you added a source, such as a PPA, then, that too gets updated when you update, though, its not officially supported
[04:28] <holstein> !ppa
[04:29] <holstein> oneof3: if you built it yourself, then, you maintain it yourself.. you'll need to update it on your own, as you installed it on your own
[04:29] <oneof3> i did not build anything. i know i used a sudo apt-get install command
[04:29] <oneof3> so i guess that falls into your deifinition and im fine
[04:37] <oneof3> is there a way to find the openvpn program among the list? holstein
[04:37] <holstein> oneof3: sure.. you can use a package manager.. i suggest something like synaptic
[04:41] <oneof3> ty
[04:42] <oneof3> i opened that manager, i guess i just search key words?
[04:42] <oneof3> i do see lots of openvpn stuff, guess m okay. ty
[05:37] <Caduceus> Hey guys, would this be the right place for help?
[05:54] <Archimedes00> so my desktop and panel keep crashing randomly, any other reports of this?
[06:52] <xubuntu406> Hi All, I am having trouble in booting from XUbuntu bootable USB randomly
[06:52] <cfhowlett> xubuntu406 try a new USB stick
[06:54] <xubuntu406> I have a XUbuntu 11.10 64 bit bootable USB system with 2 hard drives. I have kept the system for rebooting every 6 minutes. It reboots successfully and OS loads initially. After some 200 or more reboots, system says bootable device is not detected. Can somebody assist me in debugging this issue ?
[06:55] <xubuntu406> Hi cfhowlett, I tried with new sticks. This issue is not always seen. Whenever seen I have to recycle the power.
[06:56] <xubuntu406> Wondering whether this is due to GRUB ?
[06:57] <cfhowlett> xubuntu406 you see grub when booting from your stick?  that's shouldn't be happening.
[06:58] <Archimedes00> So my network manager just crashed and my desktop and top panel crashed earlier, any ideas
[06:58] <Archimedes00> ?
[06:58] <xubuntu406> cfhowlett, I do not see grub. If I see BIOS the USB stick will not be listed.
[06:59] <xubuntu406> I talked to Intel people they claim that they have not tested Linux.
[06:59] <cfhowlett> xubuntu406 quite a different scenario.  not all hardware supports linux
[07:00] <cfhowlett> xubuntu406 at the very least though, you might consider upgrading to a supported version; 11.10 is WAY past end of life.
[07:00] <xubuntu406> Here is my thinking. BIOS detects the MBR and kicks GRUB(in Linux case). Either the device itself is not detected or MBR is not detected
[07:01] <xubuntu406> We are considering testing with Latest XUbuntu 14.04
[07:01] <cfhowlett> xubuntu406 why not install ubuntu to the HDD = USB sticks are not optimal
[07:02] <xubuntu406> It is due to some business strategy and cheaper reliable way to have OS in USB and data in HDD
[07:03] <cfhowlett> xubuntu406 okay then.  sorry, I've no other suggestions to help troubleshoot.  ask in #ubuntu
[07:03] <xubuntu406> Thank you. Glad that at least you responded...
[09:02] <nikolam> wow, Firefox 29 looks much different...
[09:05] <nikolam> for no obvious reason, looks  more like chrome and wastes more space in tabs bar
[09:06] <nikolam> wow, everything is so windows8-ish
[09:25] <share> they want to copy chrome
[09:25] <share> lol
[09:25] <share> lots of ppl complaning on #firefox
[09:26] <share> complaining
[09:36] <starrats> new firefox sure looks like they copied chrome with all the stuff on the right side of the page like bookmarks, view, history, etc.
[09:37] <starrats> not complaining must get used to it
[09:42] <share> starrats: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/
[09:51] <starrats> thanks share, I bookmarked it for a later install
[10:22] <olbi> hi guys, simple question, why in Whisker Menu - System there isn't visible so many things, which should be when I edit it with MenuLibre?
[11:08] <xubuntu147> hello
[11:09] <xubuntu147> I was just wondering where the location of the community wallpapers in xubuntu 14.04
[11:09] <cfhowlett> xubuntu147 by default community papers not installed.
[11:10] <xubuntu147> how to obtain?
[11:11] <cfhowlett> xubuntu147 sudo apt-get intall packagename
[11:11] <knome> cfhowlett, on new installations, yes they are...
[11:11] <cfhowlett> knome  thehellyousay!  so as of 14.04 then?
[11:12] <knome> cfhowlett, xubuntu didn't have "community wallpapers" before 14.04
[11:12] <knome> xubuntu147, /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops
[11:13] <knome> xubuntu147, if they aren't there, you need to install xubuntu-community-wallpapers
[11:13] <xubuntu147> I just did a distro upgrade to 14.04 but computer shutdown during upgrade, not sure if recovery from that went bad or the wallpapers (and possible more things) did not get included
[11:13] <knome> well no, they aren't installed on upgrade afaik, so you need to do that manually
[11:15] <xubuntu147> thanks
[11:17] <olbi> hi guys, simple question, why in Whisker Menu - System there isn't visible so many things, which should be when I edit it with MenuLibre?
[11:17] <knome> olbi, because they are visible in the settings manager in xubuntu
[11:18] <olbi> but the menu System should have for example System Updates and Additional Drivers :)
[11:19] <knome> in xubuntu, no
[14:41] <starrats> Looks like Autumn on this channel, lol all the orange and yellow and I'm putting in a little snow on the bottom!  :)
[15:48] <Kekai> I run Xubuntu 14.04 LTS on a lenovo ideapad S10 with 1GB of RAM
[15:48] <Kekai> I startup my PC this morning and a garbled white bar before the startup screen.
[15:49] <Kekai> It was a few seonds then it loaded normally. is this an issue with anyone else? or is my hardware failing.
[15:59] <xubuntu112> hi all
[15:59] <xubuntu112> anyone using 14.04?
[15:59] <Kekai> yes
[15:59] <xubuntu112> In 12.04 I had a panel in the lower middle that hid itself automatically and on which I had my most favourite application shortcuts configured...how can I get that back? :)
[16:00] <Kekai> right click yor top panel
[16:00] <Kekai> then edit panels
[16:00] <Kekai> add panel
[16:00] <Kekai> Just grab all the apps you want to the new panel
[16:01] <Kekai> Make sure to set the panel to the proper prefference you want for it
[16:01] <xubuntu112> uuhmm..when I click my upper panel I can not "edit" or "add" panels...do I miss a plugin?
[16:01] <Kekai> nope
[16:01] <Kekai> Right click > Panel >Edit Panels
[16:01] <Kekai> Or "Panel Prefferences"
[16:01] <crimsondusk> you can also go to the settings manager and Panel from there
[16:02] <xubuntu112> got panel references, yes...
[16:02] <Wizard> Hi.
[16:02] <Wizard> xubuntu112: I use 14.04
[16:02] <xubuntu112> panel 0 is already there...so I guess I add another one :)
[16:02] <Wizard> It is perfect ;)
[16:02] <xubuntu112> .)
[16:04] <Kekai> yes
[16:04] <xubuntu112> kekai...thanks...it works!!
[16:04] <xubuntu112> thanks a lot
[16:04] <Kekai> Panel 0 is your main one
[16:05] <xubuntu112> indeed...I just had to add one
[16:07] <zakora> After screen locking, Light Locker will try to log to Guest Session. Is there a way to make Light Locker log to the latest active session?
[16:10] <Mo> Hello - I've been facing an issue for 2 days now. I even instulled xubuntu and still no results
[16:11] <Guest90410> My network manager applet on the panel has disappeared. The notification bar is there, and the applet shows as present, but it doesn't appear. I did all the config fixes on the forums in Interfaces and the config file of network manager
[16:11] <Guest90410> Does anyone know what else I can do?
[16:13] <brainwash> Guest90410: did you try to start it manually by running "nm-applet"?
[16:15] <xubuntu063> anyone?
[16:15] <JohnN> ?
[16:16] <xubuntu063> I was wondering regarding the network manager
[16:16] <slickymasterWork> !ask | xubuntu063
[16:16] <Kekai> Right click the Panel
[16:16] <Kekai> And see if its added
[16:16] <Kekai> Then add it
[16:16] <zakora> xubuntu063: <brainwash> Guest90410: did you try to start it manually by running "nm-applet"?
[16:17] <xubuntu063> It is
[16:17] <xubuntu063> It's just not showing
[16:17] <xubuntu063> yea it works - just not showing
[16:18] <Kekai> I run Xubuntu 14.04 LTS on a lenovo ideapad S10 with 1GB of RAM
[16:18] <Kekai> I startup my PC this morning and a garbled white bar before the startup screen.
[16:18] <Kekai> It was a few seonds then it loaded normally. is this an issue with anyone else? or is my hardware failing.
[16:23] <brainwash> Kekai: which gpu and driver?
[16:23] <Kekai> i dont know how do I find out ?
[16:23] <Kekai> it was second hand from my mother
[16:25] <brainwash> lspci -v
[16:26] <brainwash> not sure if this is something you should worry about (if everything else works fine)
[16:28] <Kekai> Intel
[16:28] <Kekai> idk
[16:30] <brainwash> it happened only once so far, right?
[16:30] <Kekai> yes
[16:31] <brainwash> so, see if it happens again on every boot
[16:31] <Kekai> Should I restart to see if it happens again?
[16:31] <brainwash> nah, no need to rush
[16:32] <brainwash> besides, I got no real clue what exactly could cause this
[16:33] <S2tty> hello , i have some truble installing " .sh "
[16:34] <S2tty> i used this tutorial http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/313
[16:34] <zakora> S2tty: what are you trying to install? what is the error?
[16:34] <S2tty> 2 sec
[16:35] <S2tty> : not found 15: ./retea.sh:
[16:35] <S2tty> SIOCDELRT: No such process
[16:35] <S2tty> SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
[16:35] <S2tty> : not found 21: ./retea.sh:
[16:36] <S2tty> in .sh file are this 2 lines
[16:36] <S2tty> route del -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:36] <S2tty> route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:36] <S2tty> i`m using xubuntu 14.04 from usb
[16:36] <S2tty> Live :)
[16:38] <zakora> are you connected to a network?
[16:38] <S2tty> yes
[16:38] <S2tty> lan + internet
[16:38] <zakora> sorry, i don't know how to help you from here
[16:39] <zakora> is this script part of xubuntu live?
[16:39] <S2tty> no
[16:39] <S2tty> is a part from my local network
[16:39] <S2tty> i get internet trough a server
[16:39] <S2tty> and i need this script for DC++
[16:40] <Artemis3> are you sudoing that script?
[16:40] <S2tty> yes
[16:40] <Artemis3> paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[16:41] <Artemis3> (ie. sudo script.sh won't do)
[16:41] <S2tty> ok
[16:42] <Artemis3> but if you run each command with sudo is it working?
[16:42] <S2tty> no
[16:42] <S2tty> i will try asking my network administrator
[16:42] <Artemis3> also paste route -n
[16:42] <S2tty> if i can find him :))
[16:43] <S2tty> Kernel IP routing table
[16:43] <S2tty> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[16:43] <S2tty> <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>       <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 ppp0
[16:43] <S2tty> <IP_ADDRESS>       <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS> UH    0      0        0 ppp0
[16:43] <Artemis3> not here
[16:43] <Artemis3> see
[16:43] <Artemis3> you want to delete something that isn't there
[16:43] <S2tty> hmm
[16:43] <Artemis3> hmm ppp0
[16:44] <S2tty> yes , i use pppoe to connect to internet trough a server :(
[16:46] <Artemis3> normally you delete the existing gateway and add the new one (if you are sure that gateway works) and i think there is a script to do that when you start the ppp
[16:47] <S2tty> yes this gateway is working :) when i used old XP  i had to use same script there to
[16:48] <Artemis3> do it manually first then worry about scripts later
[16:48] <S2tty> ok
[16:48] <S2tty> ty for help ;)
[16:59] <r0u> hello :)
[17:00] <S2tty> hi
[17:18] <xubuntu424> hello I am having a problem with my panel clock it does not show the correct time, it is an hour off like it didnt change with daylight savings i have tride tzselect and changed it to the correct time but it didnt effect the panel clock can anyone help? its driving me insane
[17:20] <Guest54446> you try orage? or change timezone
[17:20] <Tiensbakung> xubuntu424: are you dual boot with windows?
[17:20] <xubuntu424> no i dual boot mint and ubuntu
[17:22] <Artemis3> i suppose you should set all your OSes to UTC (and bios) and set the proper time zone (btw i think daylight saving is a retarted concept)
[17:22] <Tiensbakung> xubuntu424: then it's recommended you set your hardware clock to UTC, software clock to your time zone
[17:23] <Tiensbakung> also better sync your time with the internet using ntp
[17:24] <xubuntu424> tiensbakung: so change it in bios? I already have done ntp it still doesnt change the panel clock in the terminal after i changed timezone it showed the correct time but still not in the panel
[17:26] <Tiensbakung> xubuntu424: is your hardware clock UTC? /etc/adjtime
[17:27] <Tiensbakung> xubuntu424: there is normally a remarkable delay before your panel clock get updated
[17:28] <xubuntu424> its been over an hour this problem is really grinding my gears im gong to give up for now thanks
[20:06] <meek_geek> guys what do you like about xubuntu the most ?
[20:06] <TacoTacos> Hello, I am having a hard time getting xubuntu to boot on acer c710 chromebook
[20:09] <meek_geek> TacoTacos, use chromebook for chrome OS only - its best designed for spying purposes by Google Inc
[20:10] <TacoTacos> no thnx
[20:10] <TacoTacos> The specs on the book are pretty bad ass tho
[20:10] <TacoTacos> SSD drive, intel, and upgradeable to 16gb of ram
[20:10] <Tiensbakung> What's your problem exactly, TacoTacos?
[20:10] <TacoTacos> I have Chrubuntu installed but it always boots into chrome
[20:11] <meek_geek> heh
[20:11] <Tiensbakung> Sounds like a bootloader issue
[20:11] <fballs> my favorite thing about xubuntu is how lightweight it is...that and the look of greybird
[20:12] <TacoTacos> I think it is the priority for booting is set wrong
[20:12] <meek_geek> I wish I could get a version of ubuntu without ubuntu software center
[20:13] <meek_geek> but i love xubuntu so far
[20:13] <fballs> why?
[20:13] <fballs> you don't have to use it...most of the software i install is from a command line
[20:14] <Tiensbakung> Never hand experience with chromebook, but your problem is more likely related to the bootloader, not an OS, you may need to dig more about that
[20:15] <meek_geek> fballs, I want a linux edition like Xubuntu - all the ubuntu bloatware
[20:16] <meek_geek> also you do not get any package other than OS from the official repos
[20:16] <meek_geek> install everything manually with the package manager from the internet
[20:50] <larrypg> Hello all, just wondering if Xubuntu has a different release of the daily's than some of the other builds...It appears that is the only version that has not had a 14.10 daily.   If it does then am wondering what it is...have not been able to find out through searchs
[20:51] <Wizard> larrypg: If one could call daily build a release..
[20:53] <krytarik> !daily | larrypg
[20:53] <larrypg> Wizard, release can also mean when it is released to cdimage etc.
[20:55] <krytarik> larrypg: Well, yeah, there is nothing there yet indeed. :P
[20:56] <larrypg> just was curious
[21:00] <Wizard> larrypg: You can allways get a netinst and install xubuntu-desktop ;)
[21:00] <meek_geek> guys I tried ati drivers
[21:00] <meek_geek> even updates one
[21:00] <meek_geek> and open one
[21:01] <meek_geek> but none could the performance like it was in windows
[21:03] <larrypg> Wizard, I just like to silently test as things progress in a new version and have noticed that Xubuntu seems to be the only one that has not started on the road to 14.10.  It could be that they are going about it differently and I have not found it.
[21:09] <Wizard> meek_geek: Might be.
[21:10] <Wizard> larrypg: Well, I bet it doesn't matter so much on this point ;)
[21:10] <meek_geek> Wizard, ok
[21:10] <Wizard> meek_geek: However, I'm not a 3d guru.
[21:10] <Wizard> Personally I don't even care ;)
[21:11] <meek_geek> Wizard, look I explain you something even in Windows 7 it did not work well at all .. but it was just one player called Pot Player that could run 720p videos well enough without drop of frame .. but i cannot find that player in linux
[21:12] <Wizard> mplayer is usally good at such things.
[21:13] <meek_geek> Wizard, I am using smplayer only but it does not seem to work well
[21:14] <Wizard> :(
[21:15] <Tiensbakung> meet_geek: try different video output then
[21:17] <meek_geek> Tiensbakung, how to play GPU accelerated output
[21:18] <Tiensbakung> meek_geek: in smplayer, options -> Preferences -> General -> Video -> Output driver, try different ones
[21:19] <meek_geek> Tiensbakung, but i tried all
[21:19] <Tiensbakung> meek_geek: ati drivers are normally not same good as their windows conterpart
[21:21] <Tiensbakung> meek_geek: there is also a new one called mpv, command line only thought, try playing around with that one also, maybe you can get any luck:)
[21:31] <meek_geek> Tiensbakung, omg gl driver in smplayer seem to do that job but it stil flickers a bit in between bt is fine
[21:31] <meek_geek> what is gl ?
[21:32] <Tiensbakung> meek_geek: opengl
[21:32] <meek_geek> Tiensbakung, I see when I do fglrxinfo it says opengl somethign
[21:34] <Tiensbakung> meek_geek, in performance section, tick "allow frame drop", adjust the numbers for "threads for decoding (MPEG......) ", will give you a performance boost for playing HD movies
[21:35] <xubuntu857> New user of xubuntu with question about how to upgrade from xubuntu 12.04 LTS to xubuntu 14.04 LTS
[21:35] <Tiensbakung> meek_geek, you may also want to fiddle around with the cache size a little bit, it helps. At least I can watch 1080p videos without any problem with a built-in intel card
[21:37] <knome> xubuntu857, 12.04->14.04 upgrades will be officially enabled when 14.04 gets the first point release in a few months
[21:39] <xubuntu857> Oh ok so my task is be patient and keep my 12.04 up to date (it is running on an ancient Micron laptop with 128 MB of RAM)
[21:39] <Poisoned_Dragon> Or install 14.04 clean.
[21:39] <Poisoned_Dragon> If you're feeling impatient
[21:39] <meek_geek> Tiensbakung, which driver do you use and what cache size ?
[21:40] <Poisoned_Dragon> And that runs? Sounds like it wouldn't even toast my bread.
[21:40] <gergnz> Poisoned_Dragon: or you can use update-manager -d
[21:40] <Poisoned_Dragon> you could. But I'd rather do it clean
[21:40] <xubuntu857> I've been having issues with clean installs (I also have a Vaio laptop with more horsepower that can't handle any ISO newer than 9.04 and am going crazy trying to get it updated/upgraded
[21:40] <larrypg> 128 for the video or for the system?
[21:41] <xubuntu857> sadly, the micron has only 128 for the system
[21:41] <xubuntu857> it is very close to being a paper-weight
[21:43] <Tiensbakung> meek_geek: it really depends on your own hardware, try a HD 1080p video, play around with the parameters a little bit will give you best performance, I use xv for video output, 2 threads for decoding, allow frame drop, 8192KB local file cache
[21:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> xubuntu857, it's starting to sound like you'll soon have to let go of them.
[21:46] <xubuntu857> yes it is well past-time but there is always the matter of not wanting to spend money on hardware unless absolutely necessary
[21:47] <larrypg> xubuntu857, I have a trs-80 and I realized a while ago that it was past-time to give it up
[21:48] <xubuntu857> yes, I have an apple2 clone and a commodore 64 buried in boxes in the basement and much newer hardware running windows - trying to ease into ubuntu and xubuntu
[21:50]  * share is going to remove Ubuntu vbox and install Xubuntu
[21:51] <larrypg> xubuntu857, you can always run ubuntu or xubuntu in a vm- use virtualbox or vmware or what ever and test them
[21:51] <meek_geek> Tiensbakung, I am on AMD c-60 low powered laptop with hd graphics radeon 6290 built-in should i expect 1080p playback? Its 1 ghz dual core
[21:51] <larrypg> xubuntu857, altthough with 128 ram you might  be better with a piece of paper and a pen
[21:52] <meek_geek> guys is there a way to utilize extra ram for performance ?
[21:52] <Poisoned_Dragon> in theory, that should be fine, meek_geek
[21:52] <xubuntu857> larrypg, you are quite right.
[21:53] <meek_geek> Poisoned_Dragon, really ? I got 6 gigs of ram too .. also I have heard VDPAU is a GPU driver for videos how to make it work ?
[21:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> And a carrier pigeon for internet access, xubuntu857
[21:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> meek_geek, I'm not sure what to tell you. are you having playback issues in 1080p?
[21:55] <meek_geek> Poisoned_Dragon, I am having issues even in 720p
[21:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> Hmm... with frames?
[21:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> What are you using to play with?
[21:56] <Tiensbakung> meek_geek, I am ... not sure, you should try. Mine is a dual 1.2G HZ intel pentium, playback in 1080p is not a problem, but frame drop must be accepted, although not noticeable though.
[21:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> lemme see if I can find a 1080p sample file. If it plays on my setup, it means your doing it wrong.
[21:59] <Tiensbakung> Poisoned_Dragon: big buck bunny?
[21:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh yeah! Got a link?
[22:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> never mind it's long
[22:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> I found a short one
[22:26] <Poisoned_Dragon>  lol, ok. so 1080p is out for me. :)
[22:26] <Poisoned_Dragon> But, I expected that.
[23:16] <evan_> I've had issues booting the Live USB of the 64bit iso. The second it loads and shows the Language window for Installing, my pc reboots
[23:39] <share> Xubuntu Xubuntu!