[12:12] <bluca> andersson1234: did you see my message from yesterday? You might have been offline at the time
[12:12] <bluca> we spotted a problem, the reporting is linking the wrong arch job, for example on https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/31140 the jammy-arm64 and jammy-s390x results are both pointing to the jammy-amd64 results
[13:23] <andersson1234> ah damn, okay, I'll look at that asap
[13:55] <andersson1234> I think I see the issue, I'll test and cowboy a fix today
[13:58] <bluca> thank you!
[14:19] <andersson1234> I've cowboy'd the fix into prod now, you shouldn't see any incorrect arch results anymore :)
[14:23] <bluca> thanks, will let you know how it goes


[01:16] <xubuntu67w> Recently installed Xubuntu on Dell Inspiron laptop running vista. Received a message yesterday for update. Is there an original source to get the updates from like the main menu etc? Or is it safe to click on the message? Not sure if the pop up is legit. I erased Vista completely if that helps to answer this. Please advise if it's OK to click the message to receive update. Thanks.
[01:17] <Unit193> It's likely 'Update notifier' and there's a tray icon, right?  In the menu, there should be an 'Update manager', or one can use Synaptic (or whatever GUI is for that.)
[09:25] <xubuntu26w> Hi, is there anybody here who can help with openvpn? I've got it setup in network manager and it works fine with one connection. But I need to run two connections simultaneous, and it's not possible to connect to more than one
[09:26] <xubuntu26w> i've install network-manager-openvpn and network-manager-openvpn-gnome
[09:56] <xubuntu31w> Xubuntu starts me without asking for a password, if I block the user if it asks the same when it is automatically locked after a time without use. But when start does not start automatically.
[09:57] <knome> ...what?
[09:57] <knome> or: it wasn't very clear what you would like to happen and what's happening (eg. what the problem is)
[09:58] <xubuntu31w> Xubuntu starts without prompting for password
[09:58] <knome> did you select autologin when installing?
[09:59] <xubuntu31w> Autologgin is not selected
[10:09] <esdwdftty> it is necessary to check, i changed in virtualbox kvm on hiper-v, start vb received constant messages of different errors. Constantly hanging red sign brick. Turned off the vb returned the kvm (default)  nothing changed the Update not start when open. Synaptic works, falls error. Vb 5.18 Host Win.Guest XU 17.04 64bit
[10:11] <esdwdftty> Hyper-V
[10:39] <esdwdftty> cpu AMD
[10:49] <xubuntu26w> what I would like to do, is run more vpn connections simultaneous - do you know anything about this?
[11:20] <pmjdebruijn> that is a very very vague question
[11:20] <pmjdebruijn> exactly what kind vpns, to what, with which purpose
[11:20] <pmjdebruijn> in the end a vpn is just a connection on an interface... so routing is the name of the game
[11:22] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu26w: so please rephrase your question to something more specific/descriptive...
[14:53] <door4> I just installed 16.04 2 fresh on my machine that has been running on an install of 16.04 1 for about a year no issue. Now it seems my desktop freezes. Mouse moves, can't click on anything. Keyboard doesn't work either so I can't get to another tty. Anyone else see something similar?
[15:05] <door4> my desktop is freezing about every 10-20 minutes. The only consisten things I see in syslog are blueman-mechanism: Exiting and systemd[1]: Removed slice User Slice of lightdm.
[19:00] <Natharn> Hello
[19:00] <Natharn> devilray: the solution to my installation process was to edit the command, change splash to nomodeset - That way I could install xubuntu
[19:01] <Natharn> And so I did.
[19:01] <Natharn> The next problem has arrived. It does not boot.
[19:01] <Natharn> Anyone can help me in the right direction?
[19:01] <Natharn> I have tried a few things, but so far no luck.
[19:08] <genii> If you used nomodeset during installation, odds are you will also need to make it a permanent boot option.
[19:42] <xubuntu25i> ubuntu is nice but the last 5 years more bigger. I hope Xubuntu stay small os
[20:12] <termlen0> hello
[20:12] <termlen0> looking for some help, trying to install kazam 1.5.3 on xenial.... I tried #kazam, but not many folks on there
[20:13] <termlen0> tried following http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-kazam-1-5-3-on-ubuntu-14-04-ubuntu-12-04-and-derivatives/
[20:13] <termlen0> but, i get an error that the release file is missing with the apt update command
[20:13] <termlen0> any ideas?
[20:24] <xubuntu64w> join
[20:25] <knome> you are here.
[20:25] <xubuntu64w> i need help with my computer not reading my sound card
[20:26] <knome> start by telling more information; which sound card, which xubuntu version and what is the actual problem/situation that you have that makes you assume the sound card is not recognised
[20:28] <xubuntu64w> if you do aplay -l it reads that there are no sound cards found, i have an 	Subsystem: Gateway, Inc. NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
[20:29] <xubuntu64w> and i do not know how to find out which xubuntu version i have
[20:29] <knome> type "lsb_release -a" in the terminal without the quotes
[20:30] <xubuntu64w> i have 16.04.2
[20:30] <knome> ok, so your sound card isn't visible in aplay list; is that what you try to play media with usually?
[20:31] <xubuntu64w> i normal just use what comes installed with it
[20:32] <xubuntu64w> right now it has pulseaudio control
[20:32] <xubuntu64w> and rythmbox for the media player
[20:32] <knome> ok, so on the pulseaudio volume control, what do you see on the "configuration" tab?
[20:34] <xubuntu64w> no cards avalible for configuration, and for output devices it shows dummy output
[20:37] <knome> you might want to look at this; the same tip should work for xubuntu as well: https://forums.solydxk.com/viewtopic.php?t=109&start=10
[20:38] <xubuntu64w> thank you
[20:45] <xubuntu64w> not working
[20:49] <nfitzy> i need help with my computer not recognizing my sound card
[20:50] <nfitzy> i need help with my computer not recognizing my sound card
[20:53] <nfitzy> hello
[20:56] <krytarik> !patience | nfitzy
[23:43] <door4> #join #firefox
[23:44] <knome> door4, try /join
[23:45] <xangua> Join the rebellion
[23:45] <knome> too lazy, can i do that tomorrow?
[23:45] <knome> (:
[23:45] <xangua> We need you, the Galaxy needs you
[23:51] <door4> running 16.04 fresh install. It's freezing on me but the mouose will still move. Not sure if it's chrome/hangouts or possibly bluez or pulseadiuo based on what I see in syslog. That ring a bell for anyone?


[15:35] <Roasted_> Why is it when I use the profile editor it tanks my ICEauthority file
[15:35] <Roasted_> all I get are errors
[18:47] <doctormo> highvoltage: ping
[18:50] <highvoltage> doctormo: pong
[18:51] <doctormo> highvoltage: Are you writing a blog post?
[18:57] <highvoltage> doctormo: yes, at least... planning to :)
[18:57] <highvoltage> (or at least, I have a draft blog entry that I'll probably finish today/tomorrow)
[19:45] <doctormo> highvoltage: My irc is a little flaky, I didn't know if you responded to me or not
[20:13] <highvoltage> doctormo: yes
[20:34] <doctormo> highvoltage: Can you repeat what you said?
[21:06] <highvoltage> doctormo: I said yes
[21:06] <highvoltage> to:
[21:06] <highvoltage> 14:53 < doctormo> highvoltage: Are you writing a blog post?
[21:07] <doctormo> highvoltage: Ah right, doezy me
[21:07] <highvoltage> doctormo: It's a draft, will probably publish it by tomorrow, but if you want to beat me to it... then feel free to do so
[21:08] <doctormo> highvoltage: No, I've published on deviantart, that's enough for me. you got the svg right?\
[21:09] <highvoltage> doctormo: yep, it takes a while to open in inkscape :)
[21:10] <doctormo> highvoltage: it does, 2gb ram is important
[21:12] <highvoltage> only seems to use 200MB here, but I guess it depends how much undo history you keep and stuff like that


[19:44] <onetinsoldier> rivo: sure... but hitsujiTMO might be able to get it straightened out now that he knows you are using 32bit
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: my apologies. heres the correct set of debs http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585163/
[19:44] <Ivanov> hitsujiTMO: did you get the paste you asked for?
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> ivanov: i did. looking now
[19:46] <ice9> I installed cinnamon but when I open the application menu or right click to open popup menu from the cinnmon panel, the whole desktop freezes
[19:46] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: the problem starts here in your pastebin   41.000] (EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed. Probably kernel module missing or incompatible.
[19:47] <Ivanov> well, how do i install these drivers?
[19:47] <rivo> hitsujiTMO Okei, thanks mate, will try. If its not helping, I am going probably reinstall
[19:47] <Ivanov> do i just go to AMD and get AMD's latest?
[19:47] <Ivanov> i know the card will work with fglrx if i use the (post-release update) option
[19:47] <Ivanov> it even launches steam
[19:47] <Ivanov> but steam complains its outdated
[19:47] <Ivanov> and thats what i need to fix
[19:48] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: does steam fail to start up?
[19:48] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: when you have working, but older, fglrx driver installed?
[19:49] <Ivanov> no it starts fine
[19:49] <Ivanov> it just complains that drivers are outdated
[19:49] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: okay. it's probably  not an actual error, but just a warning, which you could just ignore
[19:49] <Ivanov> yeah and normally i would
[19:49] <Ivanov> but doing independent game development, uptodate drivers are very vital
[19:50] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: oh, i see
[19:50] <qpan321> Hi, I am new to IRC. I was in the #python channel and I get this:#python-unregistered :Cannot send to channel
[19:50] <qpan321> what does it mean?
[19:50] <ezra-s> qpan321, register your nick with freenode to be able to talk there
[19:50] <Pricey> qpan321: Did you read the /topic ?
[19:51] <Ivanov> onetinsoldier: how does updating drivers work on linux anyways, is it still automatic like it was on windows?
[19:51] <qpan321> sorry, i don't know what you mean by /topic...where do i go to register and is it complicated?
[19:51] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: i'm personally don't know how to solve this problem. i  was just pointing out where the problem shows up in the log file
[19:52] <Ivanov> oh thats fine, i just want to figure out how to update the drivers
[19:52] <llutz> !register | qpan321
[19:52] <rivo> hitsujiTMO  and onetinsoldier Thank you for your help. hitsujiTMO way of updating manually did the work.
[19:52] <qpan321> thanks everyone, I will go and try it now
[19:53] <willbradley> does anyone else have this thing where their computer will randomly freeze but the mouse still moves? seems like compiz crashes, maybe during alt-tab
[19:53] <HeathHayle> Is this web site a joke ? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntuprecise
[19:53] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: i have installed the lastest drivers from ATI before following the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI tutorial. but it's been a very long time since i have done that.
[19:53] <willbradley> there are open issues on launchpad but no fixes
[19:53] <Ivanov> onetinsoldier: but do you use the driver manager built in or do you just get them from AMD?
[19:53] <onetinsoldier> rivo: great! glad yo got it solved thanks to hitsujiTMO
[19:53] <onetinsoldier> you*
[19:54] <Pici> HeathHayle: no?
[19:54] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: i usually run the latest version of ubuntu and just use the ubuntu packaged fglrx driver
[19:55] <hitsujiTMO> Ivanov: Seing a few odd errors in the log. You're getting some crashes in libc
[19:55] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: like right now, i'm running Ubuntu 14.04 ;-)
[19:56] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: but, of course, i wouldn't recommend 14.04 for a developer that needs as stable a platform as possible
[19:56] <HeathHayle> Pici Cos those packages are just a word program and there is only 4 when I upgraded it installed like 150mb etc of packages
[19:56] <Ivanov> hm maybe i should go up from 12.04 to 13.x then
[19:56] <Ivanov> but im not sure how
[19:57] <Ivanov> took me twod ays just to get ubuntu on the machine at 3AM this morning
[19:57] <Ivanov> first it was steamos with broken ass dependencies, not a good first-linux-distro
[19:57] <Ivanov> every dependency had some +bsos or +steamos version tag that killed 90% of programs id try to install
[19:58] <gordonjcp> Ivanov: tried to install on what?
[19:58] <Ivanov> on my machine
[19:58] <Ivanov> sudo apt-get install etcetc
[19:58] <gordonjcp> on which OS?
[19:58] <Ivanov> SteamOS
[19:58] <gordonjcp> okay, and you were installing from what repository?
[19:58] <Ivanov> all the libraries and dependencies are custom built with +bsos or +steamos version tags that break most programs that require specific dependencies
[19:58] <Ivanov> from Steam's official, and Debian wheezy
[19:59] <gordonjcp> so, you've got pre-alpha software
[19:59] <Ivanov> i managed to get her to Ubuntu now
[19:59] <Ivanov> so no
[19:59] <Ivanov> :P
[19:59] <Ivanov> that was how i got to the situation i'm in now
[19:59] <Ivanov> where im stuck with no graphics drivers, but atl east stuck in ubuntu
[20:00] <HeathHayle> How do I go from xbuntu back to ubuntu? And delete the packergs
[20:01] <HeathHayle> Packages
[20:01] <hitsujiTMO> ivanov: if you're thinking of upgrading, i'd do a clean install of 13.10
[20:01] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: i'd do what hitsujiTMO just said... clean install of 13.10
[20:01] <gordonjcp> Ivanov: sounds like you have a mix of packages from different repositories
[20:01] <gordonjcp> Ivanov: and one of them is known to be fundamentally unstable
[20:02] <HeathHayle> Anyone?
[20:02] <nocsy> hello I know it's not the right room but I already asked #music; can you help me to find this track ? https://slashb.alwaysdata.net/
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> Ivanov  open a terminal and paste this line   sudo apt-get install pastebinit;sudo apt-get update|pastebint     and paste the url here in the channel
[20:03] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: you in a hurry?
[20:04] <HeathHayle> No
[20:04] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay
[20:04] <Ivanov> hmm my only repositories are ubuntu's official
[20:04] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: Xubuntu is a bunch of 'xfce' packages i believe
[20:05] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: hang on a few moments
[20:05] <Ivanov> but maybe a fresh 13.10 install would benefit me
[20:05] <Ivanov> i want to update anyway
[20:06] <Ivanov> least now i can skip all the problems, just make an alternate-boot usb stick since it took me two days to figure out thats the only i can do it, since live images/EFI doesnt work
[20:06] <Ivanov> thanks guys, back soon
[20:07] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: is this package installed??   dpkg -l xfce4
[20:08] <michagogo|cloud> Is the package search page down?
[20:08] <HeathHayle> How do I check?
[20:08] <HeathHayle> In package mansger?
[20:08] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: the command i gave -->    dpkg -l xfce4
[20:08] <john_doe_jr1> I have a script that I need to run but I'd like to pass data to the script using another script…any ideas how I go about doing that?
[20:09] <HeathHayle> Not sure I have got what looks like a string table
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> john_doe_jr1  what scripting language?
[20:10] <john_doe_jr1> MonkeyDust: bash
[20:10] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: do you know how to copy and paste the output?
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> john_doe_jr1  ok, better ask in #bash, i guess
[20:11] <HeathHayle> It says un xfce4 ver none description none
[20:11] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: for instance, on my machine it looks like the following...    un  xfce4                          <none>               <none>               (no description available)
[20:11] <john_doe_jr1> MonkeyDust: alright thanks
[20:12] <HeathHayle> Yer it looks like that
[20:12] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay, so that's what yours looks like too then, i take it
[20:12] <HeathHayle> Yep
[20:12] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: do you know how to copy and paste the output from your terminal?
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: if you are reffering to bash, inputs are gotten with the $1, $2, $3, etc vars . $0 refers to the script called. $@ is an array of the vars (inlcuding $0) and ${1+$@} would refer to the array of inputs minus the the script filename
[20:13] <HeathHayle> Nope
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: obviously you should be using quotes when reffering to those vars, e.g., "$1", "$2", ${1+"$@"}
[20:14] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay. you put your  mouse cursor at the point your want to start copying. then hold down the left mouse button while moving the mouse to 'highlight' what it is you  want to copy
[20:14] <HeathHayle> Yep
[20:15] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: then you  place your mouse cursor on your irc chat client and middle click
[20:15] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: could u give me an example?
[20:15] <michagogo|cloud> Does anyone know why packages.ubuntu.com is down?
[20:15] <HeathHayle> i will have to upload it to a photo server cos I am using irc on my ipad sorry
[20:15] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: does this command show the package as being installed?   dpkg -l xfdesktop4
[20:16] <Calinou> use a mirror, michagogo|cloud?
[20:16] <onetinsoldier> michagogo|cloud: i had the same issue all day yesterday
[20:16] <michagogo|cloud> Calinou: Do you know of any that are updated with changes as of today or yesterday?
[20:16] <HeathHayle> Yep
[20:16] <qpan123> Hi, I still no sure about registering with freenode. Sorry I am new to IRC. So I typed in /nick <nickname> and irc says you are now known as <nickname>. But I still get this in #python channel: <llutz> !register | qpan321
 qpan321: Information about registering your nickname: #python-unregistered :Cannot send to channel
[20:17] <qpan123> do i need to go to their website and register...?
[20:17] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay. i use aptitude. would you mid installing and using it for the package operations?
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> qpan123  type /join #freenode, aske there
[20:17] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: mind*
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> ask*
[20:17] <HeathHayle> Its safe to use isnt it?
[20:17] <qpan123> monkeydusk ok thanks
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: play around with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585321/
[20:17] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: yes
[20:18] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[20:18] <HeathHayle> Yer thats fine then
[20:18] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay, let me know when it's installed
[20:18] <koell> Why does shotwell freeze on importing pictures?
[20:18] <mike-irssi> qpan123: /msg nickserv help
[20:18] <HeathHayle> i have already got it apranty
[20:19] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay, good. are you in xfce right now?
[20:19] <HeathHayle> Nope do you want me to be?
[20:19] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: no
[20:19] <john_doe_jr1> is there an open source ldap query tool out there?
[20:19] <Mehrzad> Hi
[20:19] <HeathHayle> Thats what I thought
[20:19] <xangua> !aptitude
[20:19] <Mehrzad> I want to add winxp to grub
[20:19] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: just curious, what are you in right  now?
[20:19] <Mehrzad> And, sudo update-grub didn't work
[20:20] <Mehrzad> What should I do?
[20:20] <xangua> !puregnome | HeathHayle: How do I go from xbuntu back to ubuntu? And delete the packergs
[20:20] <HeathHayle> Gnome
[20:20] <HeathHayle> onetinsoldier: Can I pm you?
[20:21] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay
[20:21] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: sure
[20:21] <mike-irssi> Mehrzad: grub-install
[20:22] <Mehrzad> mike-irssi: Also, what is the standard way to access terminal?
[20:22] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: btw, if you're writing scripts that are called during boot, you need to make sure they are dash safe, even if they begin with #!/bin/bash
[20:22] <mike-irssi> Mehrzad: ctrl+alt+t
[20:23] <mike-irssi> Mehrzad: or alt+ctrl+f1, alt+f7 to get back
[20:23] <Calinou> michagogo|cloud, no idea
[20:23] <Mehrzad> mike-irssi: thanks. what after that?
[20:24] <michagogo|cloud> Is there a log somewhere of package uploads, syncs from Debian, etc?
[20:24] <mike-irssi> Mehrzad: find where your hard disk is and then grub-install /that/location
[20:27] <Mehrzad> mike-irssi: what if I say it detects my windows 7?
[20:28] <mike-irssi> Mehrzad: can omit it with grub-customizer
[20:30] <Mehrzad> mike-irssi: I don't want to omit any of the os's. I want to add my windows xp to the list
[20:31] <Mehrzad> mike-irssi: should I still local the harddisk?
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> Mehrzad  it's "chainloader" line, moment
[20:31] <mitch-_> hi, I have a suspend question regarding Ubuntu 12.04LTS and VMWare Workstation 9...
[20:32] <mitch-_> or I guess really, if anyone can tell me how to log the amount of power used while in suspend so that I can compare some different situations
[20:34] <Mehrzad> MonkeyDust: okay
[20:35] <HeathHayle> onetinsoldier: So what do I do now?
[20:35] <onetinsoldier> okay HeathHayle... try     sudo aptitude remove xfdestop4
[20:36] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: i believe it will show that it will want to remove a buch of stuff... doorbell here. brb
[20:37] <mike-irssi> mitch-_: i used gnome-power-statistics to look at my battery
[20:38] <HeathHayle> onetinsoldier: Nope it just removed that one package
[20:38] <mike-irssi> mitch-_: i've seen it hum around 4 watts when unattended
[20:38] <mike-irssi> or so
[20:38] <mitch-_> mike-irssi, does that have a log/compare feature? i'm worried that when i close the lid on my laptop, if i leave VMWare WkStn going, is it using up the battery or is it actually suspending the VM as well?
[20:38] <mitch-_> i never have to resume the VM so i suspect it's eating my battery alive
[20:39] <mitch-_> mike-irssi, but I will try getting that now, thank you by the way!
[20:39] <Mehrzad> MonkeyDust, mike-irssi: what after all?
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> Mehrzad  windows is too long ago, don't remember, don't find it... it's a "chainloader +1" line in grub
[20:39] <terabit_> hi! I'm new to IRC. Can somebody explain me how it works?
[20:39] <mitch-_> mike-irssi, did you mean gnome-power-manager ?
[20:40] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[20:40] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay, roger that. hang on a moment
[20:40] <mike-irssi> mitch-_: no.. it's standard with ubuntu
[20:40] <Mehrzad> MonkeyDust: okay. you mean grub.cfg?
[20:40] <mitch-_> oh.
[20:41] <mike-irssi> mitch-_: can right click the battery and there's a graph
[20:41] <mitch-_> mike-irssi, D: you're amazing!
[20:41] <mitch-_> holy boob! this is great!
[20:42] <z3roblock> irccloud is useful?
[20:44] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay, do    aptitude remove xfwm4
[20:46] <HeathHayle> Its only doing it one at a time when I installed it installed loads so this is going to take forever isn't it?
[20:46] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: how's it going?
[20:46] <xangua> !pureubuntu | onetinsoldier HeathHayle
[20:46] <HeathHayle> So I have removed that one
[20:47] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: well, i thought that would uninstall a lot of it. but  apparently not. let's have  a look at xangua 's suggestion
[20:47] <onetinsoldier> xangua: thank you
[20:47] <HeathHayle> i have but that only removes abiword doesnt it thats only one program
[20:48] <lickalott> gents, still looking for good backup/image options to backup my machine.  Any opinions?
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> !backup
[20:48] <HeathHayle> How can sudo apt-get remove abiword abiword-common abiword-plugin-grammar abiwo  delete more then just abiword?
[20:49] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: you'd need to copy the entire line. it's a  very long line. but i see a lot of packages in that line that i don't think need to be  removed.
[20:49] <eaxxae> HeathHayle: No
[20:50] <HeathHayle> But its just got abiword in it
[20:50] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: it's got a whole lot more than that
[20:50] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: it's scrolls a long way to the right
[20:51] <HeathHayle> Oh yer sorry guys it doesnt do that on my ipad sorry
[20:51] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[20:51] <bazhang> lickalott, clonezilla
[20:52] <bazhang> Aikar, what about with xrandr, or arandr if you need a gui
[20:52] <lickalott> I've messed with it, but I don't want to have to reboot everytime to get an image.  Have you had any experience installing to the hdd bazhang?
[20:52] <Aikar> bazhang: I cant get them to seem to show the other displays, at least arandr
[20:52] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: do you want to use it? i am still willing to give you a command of my own if you  want, that might remove most of xfce in one shot
[20:53] <Aikar> they are dimmed out in the menu drop down
[20:53] <mike-irssi> Aikar: i'm not positibe, maybe you need to blacklist neauvea
[20:53] <mike-irssi> sp?
[20:53] <HeathHayle> onetinsoldier I have just pasted that in to termail now
[20:54] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay
[20:54] <HeathHayle> onetinsoldier: Can I pm you again a mo
[20:54] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: sure
[20:55] <mike-irssi> "nouveau"
[20:55] <Aikar> mike-irssi: hmm, interesting thought, im at work atm so cant try it
[21:02] <ch1p> hey all
[21:02] <ch1p> tail: cannot watch `/tmp/x11vnc.tray.PCLyxn': No such file or directory tail: cannot watch `/tmp/x11vnc.tray.PCLyxn': No such file or directory     while executing "close $channel"     (procedure "read_client_info" line 25)     invoked from within "read_client_info $client_tail"     (procedure "read_client_tail" line 5)     invoked from within "read_client_tail"
[21:02] <ch1p> thats my error with vncx11
[21:02] <Pss> bn8 all
[21:05] <randomcpp> is it just me or cloning code from github is really slow?
[21:06] <amireldor> I'm having trouble with the keyboard layout 3rd level. It worked before, but no more. I'm on 12.04.
[21:06] <amireldor> It seems like any key I set on the keyboard layout options menu for the 3rd level does not activate the third level.
[21:08] <Mehrzad> how can I get the windows borders of firefox back?
[21:09] <Calinou> mike-irssi, they are running the nvidia driver already
[21:09] <Calinou> it won't help...
[21:09] <TJ-> Iriez: Any progress ?
[21:09] <MAF> I have red5 on my server for live streaming, red5 supports rtmp protocol (1935) but doesn't have any authentication by default. Is there any way for make this feature with other program?
[21:09] <Calinou> Aikar, unless you use nvidia-xconfig, no xorg.conf is generated
[21:10] <Calinou> (you should not use nvidia-xconfig, it is terrible)
[21:10] <ch1p> any ideas?
[21:10] <ch1p> https://www.splitvr.com/vacation-rental/51afbfb702017a53e1d5de75
[21:11] <TJ-> MAF: see for example http://code.google.com/p/red5/source/browse/java/example/trunk/authdemo/src/org/red5/demo/auth/Red5AuthenticationHandler.java?r=4335
[21:12] <fbbdev> Hi! Is there a way to build programs on ubuntu 13.04 (glibc 2.17) and have them runnable with glibc 2.11? I know about building in chroot environments, but I'd like to avoid that if possible.
[21:12] <MAF> TJ- Thanks but i'm beginner on ubuntu and red5, how i should do that?
[21:13] <TJ-> MAF: hire an expert :)
[21:13] <Mehrzad> I am getting errors on "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer". (gnutls_handshake() failed: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received) Can anyone help?
[21:14] <Ivanov> Hey guys, im installing Ubuntu 13 finally and need advice on how to partition my system for it
[21:14] <MAF> TJ- is there any way to open and exit it's port?
[21:14] <mculp_> hi, I lost my administrator password, and I logged into recovery mode / root and changed it via passwd. now that my passwd is changed, it accepts my log in, but then it goes to a black screen, flashes something about "plymouth" then goes right back to the login screen. any ideas?
[21:14] <Ivanov> i have three internal hard drives, /sda, /sdb/ and /sdd and i am not sure how to partition them
[21:15] <Ivanov> should i seperate /home?
[21:15] <fbbdev> Ivanov: do you have another os on those drives?
[21:15] <Ivanov> no all drives are going to ubuntu
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> Ivanov  sounds RAID to me
[21:16] <TJ-> Ivanov: Depending on how vital it is, you might consider pairing two drives into a raid mirror (RAID-1) to host vital stuff such as /home/
[21:16] <Ivanov> TJ- Monkeydust: i have ZERO clue about that, or how to manage it
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> Ivanov  separate /home is always handy
[21:17] <Ivanov> right now i just had /sdd1 for my /, /sdd5 for 10GB Swapspace
[21:17] <Ivanov> and /sda1 was mounted on /seconddrive
[21:17] <Ivanov> and /sdb1 was on /thirddrive
[21:17] <Ivanov> it was a hackish solution but it had worked
[21:18] <ch1p> anyone familiar with x11 vnc
[21:18] <Ivanov> but id love to have a more unified use of the drives, maybe even a seperate /steam partition to contain my steam installation and its games instead of having it all in ~/.steam
[21:18] <osbin> hello one more time :) installed kde interface ...how to swich to it?
[21:18] <Ivanov> i believe 'kubuntu-desktop' opens that
[21:18] <Ivanov> idk last time i used ubuntu it was version 4.something lol
[21:19] <k1l> osbin: chose that in the login screen. when clicking on the ubuntu icon next to the nick
[21:20] <ChogyDan> Ivanov: please don't use enter as punctuation
[21:21] <xangua> Ivanov: having a separate home partition is always useful
[21:22] <Balzy> hello! Is there someone who could help me to solve a heating problem with an asus laptop?
thanx mate i will try
[21:22] <SteveBell> hi all. my smb.conf file is write protected. which command would I need to apply to get that editable again?
[21:23] <ChogyDan> !lvm | Ivanov
[21:24] <Toph> SteveBell,,, sudo gedit smb.conf doesn't work?
[21:24] <Balzy> anyone with that issue / willing to help?
[21:25] <mculp_> hi, I lost my administrator password, and I logged into recovery mode / root and changed it via passwd. now that my passwd is changed, it accepts my log in, but then it goes to a black screen, flashes something about "plymouth" then goes right back to the login screen. any ideas? I think it may be due to encryptfs -- is there a second password I need to change?
[21:25] <jmgk> hi all
[21:26] <omg_scout> Balzy: This more an issue for technical staff
[21:27] <omg_scout> Balzy: All you can do by yourself is cleaning it inside.
[21:27] <Balzy> omg_scout it's quite new and clean inside, I opened it a 3 month ago
[21:27] <andyfied> Balzy: there are some known issues with some laptops, i'd suggest searching the forums
[21:28] <Balzy> omg_scout I've been googling for months with no result, where could I ask?
[21:28] <omg_scout> Balzy: Use the warranty, then. Not much you can do yourself, in my opinion. Most manufacturers make overheating laptops now, so this is why I always go for graphic card free laoptpos
[21:29] <TJ-> mculp_: Yes... the encrypted home password is 'wrapped' up (encrypted itself) using your log-in password, so if that changes, you need to update the wrapper password too
[21:29] <omg_scout> I also had this problem with few laptops, could not do much on my own
[21:29] <SteveBell> Toph if I sudo gedit smb.conf I just see an empty file
[21:30] <Holden> Hi guys, can anyone tell me if a recent version of audacity can play back .opus files?
[21:30] <mculp_> TJ-: ugh, i forgot my password -- suppose im fucked
[21:30] <andyfied> balsy: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=408 search through here before asking, someone else might have the same model as you
[21:31] <andyfied> Balzy: do you have the latest ubuntu? some of the problems are fixed in updates
[21:31] <SteveBell> Toph: very strange previously I was able to edit the smb.conf and save changes. now that no longer works. I opened that file via dash back then
[21:31] <hitsujiTMO> Balsy, what gpu do you have?
[21:31] <hitsujiTMO> balzy^
[21:32] <mculp_> TJ-: i think i had like 45 bitcoins in my wallet in my home dir :/
[21:33] <Balzy> hitsujiTMO 2 gpus, Ati radeon and the "usual" integrated intel gpu
[21:33] <Balzy> andyfied I'm currently running kubuntu 13.04
[21:33] <TJ-> mculp_: You *did* save the private key file as the tools urged you to, when you created the encrypted home?
[21:33] <hitsujiTMO> Balzy: have you installed the proprietary drivers or, are you on radeon driver?
[21:34] <mculp_> TJ-: not sure, i can't remember setting this up at all
[21:34] <andyfied> Balzy: ati has known issues with some of the driver... yeah, what hitsujiTMO said :D
[21:36] <Balzy_> andyfied, hitsujiTMO sorry I had some connection issue
[21:36] <Balzy_> now I'm back
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> Balzy_: have you installed the proprietary drivers or, are you on radeon driver?
[21:37] <Toph> SteveBell,,, what works for me is      sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[21:38] <Balzy_> hitsujiTMO currently no, cause when I installed them they messed up with kde
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> Balzy_: then most likely the issue is power management with the ati card. This unfortunately isn't improved until the release of kernel 3.13
[21:40] <SteveBell> Toph that did the trick. thanks!
[21:40] <sps> Does the software center icon always have a loading sign on it?
[21:40] <Toph> np,,, you just need to include the path
[21:40] <Balzy_> hitsujiTMO mine is 3.8.0-33 shall I try to update?
[21:41] <hitsujiTMO> No, I would Not recommend using an unstable kernel. You'll need to wait for it to be released or use the fglrx driver
[21:42] <Balzy_> hitsujiTMO, I there a way to deactivate and not use the additional video card?
[21:42] <Balzy_> I'm not running gpu intensive applications on this laptop
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> AFAIK, Not unless you can deactivate it in the bios. You could possibly try blacklisting radeon driver in the kernel if you're not using it
[21:44] <Balzy_> hitsujiTMO okay I'll check the bios first!
[21:44] <Balzy_> thanks!
[21:46] <randomcpp> what are devhelp alternatives for documentation browsing?
[21:47]  * LvMises waves
[21:47] <LvMises> Hey all
[21:48] <mirco> avatar
[21:48] <Calinou> hi, ask your question
[21:48] <onetinsoldier> hi!
[21:49] <MrJerome> I'm having trouble with lighttpd... When I run lighttpd -f -t /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf it says failed: no such file or directory but the file is there I can open it with a text editor
[21:50] <sergiobenrocha2> hello
[21:51] <nexus4> Hello
[21:51] <sergiobenrocha2> hi
[21:51] <TJ-> MrJerome: Is it the conf file being complained about, or one of the directives in that file?
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: What do the -f and -t flags mean?
[21:51] <sergiobenrocha2> someone knows why wubi is in ubuntu iso?
[21:51] <sergiobenrocha2> I thought that wubi is discontinued
[21:52] <v1c3> Would please anybody have a lookat this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-datetime/+bug/1251222 It slows down ubuntu and leads sooner or later to a systemcrash because the log is getting bigger than 18 Gigabytes!!! This is a major Bug. Please have a look at it! Thats why ubuntu is slow!
[21:52] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: "-f <conf-file>" "-t" test config and exit
[21:52] <amireldor> can I get a Super+<type app name> in Unity, like GNOME-Shell?
[21:52] <MrJerome> it's saying the conf file doesn't exist
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> so your using the -f flag and ginveing it the file -t ?
[21:53] <amireldor> i mean, to switch to active application, HA
[21:53] <MrJerome> -f means which conf file to use and -t means test the conf file and exit
[21:53] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: MrJerome: I was waiting for someone else to mention that :)
[21:53] <nexus4> Wubi is with 12.04 for long term installs on windows 8
[21:54] <funky> hey people
[21:54] <funky> how I can make process an auto start
[21:54] <funky> so when I start server it starts?
[21:54] <sergiobenrocha2> but it is in ubuntu trusty daily too, the wubi
[21:54] <funky> do I create sh script?
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> !upstart | funky
[21:55] <sergiobenrocha2> nexus4, I thougt canonical was drop wubi
[21:56] <nexus4> Yes not as long term package! Long term distro will still use package unless removed.
[21:57] <MrJerome> Ok yes I fixed that and it says syntax OK.
[21:57] <nexus4> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/wubi-unlikely-to-be-in-ubuntu-13-04-windows-users-lose-out
[21:57] <MrJerome> But the server still will not start
[21:57] <MrJerome> it says it starts, but when I run lighttpd status it says No configuration available
[21:58] <sergiobenrocha2> nexus4, yes, but it is still in daily build of trusty, and it is still in 13.10
[21:58] <sergiobenrocha2> i don't understand this
[21:58] <nexus4> This above explains wubi dropped by 13.04
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: can you post the conf, sounds like its incomplete then
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: how exactly are you starting lighttpd?
[22:00] <MrJerome> The config should be ok it says Syntax OK and I was using the same file successfully earlier today
[22:00] <MrJerome> I tried /etc/init.d/lighttpd start   and also lighttpd -f <conf file path>
[22:00] <MrJerome> It says it starts OK but must die right away without error message
[22:00] <sergiobenrocha2> ok
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: An empty cnfig file can have OK syntax too
[22:01] <MrJerome> the file I point it to with -f option is not empty
[22:01] <Zorin> I want to reproduce my exact system and settings, internet settings, files, sound setup exe. should I use remastersys ? how do I do this?
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: I'm not saying ti is, i'm saying it may be missing some important directive
[22:02] <usrb1n> Hello everybody. I need a tip because I can't find anyway to solve this. My laptop hard drive has passed away today. I've got a copy of my work just yesterday so I was really lucky.
[22:02] <TJ-> MrJerome: Maybe another instance is already running and has claimed the port?
[22:02] <zbrkcbr> hi guys how can I write an iso to a usb stick with terminal
[22:03] <nexus4> See .exe in file if not folder is still in distro seen this months ago with no files.
[22:03] <usrb1n> I have another hdd that I'm using as external hdd with 200gb+ of file and now I need to use that one to install the OS.
[22:03] <MrJerome> http://pastebin.com/SmY9XcPr
[22:03] <usrb1n> The hard drive is not divided, it's just one partition for 500gb. Is ther any way to temp install ubuntu there without formating it and loose the 200gb of backups ?
[22:04] <usrb1n> I can't use a live cd because I don't have a CD drive. So I was thinking in a way to just put the files on the disk
[22:04] <usrb1n> Or like wubi does
[22:04] <hidden> i have been trying to update libboost
[22:04] <usrb1n> I've tried wubi but it won't boot if I don't have windows installed on that hdd
[22:04] <MrJerome> if I run /etc/init.d/lighttpd status it says lighttpd is not running
[22:04] <hidden> all day, literally all day
[22:06] <so_> hi, i want to now model of my graphic cards. can you help me?
[22:06] <so_> know*
[22:06] <andyfied> don't get ati
[22:06] <k1l> so_: type "lspci" and see the line with VGA
[22:07] <nexus4> Haven't played with Ubuntu Linux in 6 months! Just play with gnome 3, Cinnamon and unity! Just for fun. Otherwise openbox and arch Linux
[22:07] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: so php5-cgi is installed and fastcgi you've ran: sudo lighty-enable-mod fastcgi && sudo lighty-enable-mod fastcgi-php   ???
[22:08] <sergiobenrocha2> nexus4, thanks, it seems that trusty not use wubi anymore.
[22:08] <canaima_> hola
[22:08] <sergiobenrocha2> but 13.10 use wubi
[22:08] <canaima_> dof
[22:08] <so_> the command is " type "lscpci " ? because when i write that he tell me: lspci is /usr/bin/lspci
[22:08] <TJ-> MrJerome: enable logging, See http://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/lighttpd/wiki/Server_errorlogDetails
[22:08] <k1l> sergiobenrocha2: dont use wubi at all
[22:08] <TJ-> so_: "lspci -nn | grep VGA"
[22:09] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: I did just reinstall php today I need to run those commands?
[22:09] <Beldar> sergiobenrocha2, what is your end goal here?
[22:09] <sergiobenrocha2> k1l, yes, i know, i never use wubi. It has a lot of problems
[22:09] <nexus4> Sergio must be image!
[22:09] <so_> thank's
[22:09] <mouz\lex> hey guys, what is this coffee cup application on statusbar? http://i.imgur.com/SB4XV.png
[22:09] <sergiobenrocha2> Beldar, i thougth trusty was using wubi yet, sorry
[22:09] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: you'd need to enable them to enable the mod_fastcgi
[22:10] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: do you have a link to the docs for that?
[22:10] <Beldar> sergiobenrocha2, You know the trusty channel is #ubuntu+1  ?
[22:10] <sergiobenrocha2> yes
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lighttpd%2BPHP
[22:10] <Beldar> cool
[22:10] <k1l> mouz\lex: see if its explained in here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[22:11] <mouz\lex> thanks :)
[22:11] <TJ-> Probably a Starbucks tie-in :p
[22:12] <k1l> mouz\lex: its caffeine, a disable screensaver indicator
[22:14] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: I installed both from source http://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/lighttpd/wiki/tutoriallighttpdandphp
[22:14] <Ice_Strike> In /etc/network/interfaces i have static IP and then i restart the networking it work fine
[22:14] <v1c3> Would please anybody have a lookat this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-datetime/+bug/1251222 It slows down ubuntu and leads sooner or later to a systemcrash because the log is getting bigger than 18 Gigabytes!!! This is a major Bug. Please have a look at it! Thats why ubuntu is slow!
[22:14] <Ice_Strike> In /etc/network/interfaces i have static IP and then i restart the networking it work fine... however when i restart the server - it did not set to static IP?
[22:15] <hidden> can anyone help me with this issue please, been trying all day:
[22:16] <hidden> E: Unable to locate package libboost1.48-all-dev
[22:16] <hidden> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libboost1.48-all-dev'
[22:16] <MrJerome> Even if I remove the fastcgi stuff from lighttpd.conf it still won't start
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: "<MrJerome> I tried /etc/init.d/lighttpd start   and also lighttpd -f <conf file path>"   are you running these with or without sudo?
[22:17] <MrJerome> with sudo
[22:18] <andyfied>  /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[22:19] <Ice_Strike> In /etc/network/interfaces i have static IP and then i restart the networking it work fine... however when i restart the server - it did not set to static IP?
[22:19] <hidden> can anyone see me
 can anyone help me with this issue please, been trying all day:
 E: Unable to locate package libboost1.48-all-dev
 E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libboost1.48-all-dev'
[22:21] <andyfied> hidden: we can see you
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> hidden, what version of ubuntu?
[22:21] <nexus4> Hidden yes, just debating with self if anyone else could see problem and fix it or leaves is at dead end. Need to reinstall distro.
[22:21] <xangua> v1c3: first, askubuntu is not to report bugs; second, I saw a previous bug report about the panel service freezing and consuming a lot more RAM it is supposed to use witch was solved by enabling the proposed updates and updating unity panel and gtk3
[22:21] <hidden> 12.04, i updated from 10.x to 11.x then 12.04
[22:22] <k1l> !helpfull > nexus4
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> hidden: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:22] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: ok it is something with fastcgi
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> hidden  it means the package does not exist
[22:22] <hidden> oh right i'm using
[22:22] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: the server runs fine when I remove fastcgi section from lighttpd.conf
[22:23] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: something must have happened when I reinstalled PHP
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> !find libboost | hidden
[22:23] <hidden> archive.ubuntu.com MonkeyDust, was impossible to use it with 10.x before
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: check to make sure the bin path is correct
[22:23] <nexus4> K1 more then one set of eyes here
[22:23] <hidden> whats the best source list for 12.04?
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> hidden  what's the outcome of    cat /etc/issue
[22:24] <hidden> cat /etc/issue
[22:24] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: How do I do that?
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> hidden  in a terminal screen
[22:24] <hidden> Ubuntu 11.10 :/
[22:24] <SteveBell> I'm having problems with setting up samba share for an ext hdd connected to ubuntu. this is what I'm using in the smb.conf file: http://pastebin.com/4hmB8Z4m
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> hidden  11.10 is dead, hence the error
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: ls -l /usr/local/bin/php-cgi
[22:24] <hidden> i upgraded it from 10.something
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> hidden, you need to upgrade to 12.04
[22:24] <SteveBell> I do see the drive appear when connecting from os x but when I click on the drive no content shows
[22:25] <hidden> hitsujiTMO, i'm sure i did
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> hidden  first upgrade to a supported release, then ask again
[22:25] <hidden> like i did 10>11>12
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> hidden: your system says otherwise
[22:25] <MrJerome> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8025648 Dec 16 11:53 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> hidden, you ugrade 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> hidden  frsh install is faster, easier and cleaner (backup first)
[22:26] <hidden> thanks hitsujiTMO. MonkeyDust i would do a fresh install but already took 2-3 steps might aswell try finishing
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> hidden. you just need 1 more upgrade
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: what about: ls -l /tmp/php.socket
[22:30] <MrJerome> no such file but I feel like that would only be created on a php request
[22:31] <fbbdev> Hi! Is there a way to build programs on ubuntu 13.04 (glibc 2.17) and have them runnable with glibc 2.11? I know about building in chroot environments, but I'd like to avoid that if possible.
[22:31] <MrJerome> Ok here's something... I can't run php from command line because it says error while loading shared libraries
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: o.O. and how did you install php?
[22:33] <MK42> #apt-get install php ?
[22:33] <MrJerome> from source.. it can't find libpq.so which is for postgresql
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> MK42: well that's how you NOT install php :P
[22:33] <MrJerome> I think if I can get that fixed it will work
[22:33] <MK42> O.O.... !
[22:34] <LordNed> Hey all, I'm trying to install Xubuntu Desktop x64 v 12.10 onto a USB drive, and when I attempt to boot after install I get the "Gave up waiting for root device." - I've tried waiting and then typing exit but that doesn't work.
[22:34] <LordNed> I know this is technically the Ubuntu irc and not Xubuntu, but #xubuntu is pretty slow right now
[22:34] <Beldar> LordNed, Full install or just loading the ISO?
[22:35] <Calinou> LordNed, 12.10?
[22:35] <LordNed> Beldar, full install. I have two jump drives, one which I live booted XUbuntu to, and the other which I installed XUbuntu on.
[22:35] <Calinou> LordNed, it is fine to ask in #ubuntu for that... but why 12.10?
[22:35] <ke_> Is it possible to turn off the retarded scrollbars?
[22:35] <Calinou> it will soon be EOL
[22:35] <MK42> use version LTS ... 12.04 for example!
[22:36] <LordNed> Calinou, following a slightly old install guide, wanted to match version numbers with the guide in case anything went wrong :p
[22:36] <ke_> The little widget that appears at the window edge
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: can you pastebin the grub.cfg?
[22:37] <Calinou> LordNed, you shouldn't do that though
[22:37] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, How would I get to it? I did run boot-repair from the Live version and this is the output from that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585714/
[22:37] <Calinou> MK42, no
[22:38] <MK42> Why not Calinou ? This not resolved tihs problem D but ... !
[22:38] <mikubuntu> oh, i see cheryl_c is still checked in to the channel
[22:38] <LordNed> Calinou, should I grab 13.10 and try that?
[22:38] <Calinou> it's better to install 13.10 instead of 12.10
[22:39] <Calinou> don't install 13.04 either, it'll be soon EOL
[22:40] <ch1pa2> Dec 16 14:39:04.751 [Error] Reading config failed--see warnings above.
[22:40] <ch1pa2> why did ubuntu install an older version?  of tor
[22:41] <ch1pa2> ?
[22:42] <LordNed> Also Xubuntu takes forever to install from one USB drive to another. I wish there was a faster way! (No CD drive :( )
[22:42] <k1l> !tor | ch1pa2
[22:44] <glitsj16> ke_: several options to do that http://askubuntu.com/questions/34214/how-do-i-disable-overlay-scrollbars
[22:44] <ch1pa2> i did this
[22:44] <TJ-> LordNed: If the system has plenty of RAM, create a tmpfs 'ram-disk' bigger than the USB target device, then copy into the ramdisk first, then write out from it. That allows the USB to move data more efficiently when multiple ports on the same bus are involved.
[22:44] <schproodle> \join #xfce
[22:44] <ch1pa2> apt-get install tor
[22:44] <LordNed> TJ-, only 2gb RAM on the machine, target USB device is 8gb! :p
[22:45] <k1l> ch1pa2: read again the bots message and follow the link in that message and then read what its about
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: Not seing anything particularly wrong with the config. can you link the tutorial you used?
[22:46] <ke_> glitsj16: thanks
[22:47] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, the installation from the tutorial is just "Install Xubuntu to USB1 via Pen Drive Linux installer. Live Boot that and install it to the other drive and create 3 partitions for / (5500mb), Swap (315mb), and the rest for /home/"
[22:47] <LordNed> and then the other instructions are for installing some software after Xubuntu is running.
[22:48] <LordNed> It looks like it's trying to boot the right UUID too as root, so I'm not sure why it's having issues. About to go spend another 2 hours installing Xubuntu 13.10 to see if that helps.
[22:48] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: Thanks for the help today, I need to install PostgreSQL but I at least found the problem
[22:48] <LvMises> I was curious, I'm running 12.04 and I noticed I can't use my middle mouse key to scroll up and down pages in Firefox.  Is this an option that isn't available or do I need to install or modify something within firefox?
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: anychance you can take a photo of the exact srror when it drops to initramfs?
[22:49] <LvMises> (when I press it, not actually scroll with the wheel)
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: sweet. One of the many reasons why I always prefer to stick to the packages where possible :P
[22:50] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, http://hastebin.com/retowubamu.vhdl except with my uuid instead (I checked with blkid
[22:51] <LordNed> I've waited ~two minutes at that point, typed "exit" and hit enter and it just drops me right back there.
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> do you get a list of drives with "ls"?
[22:53] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: one thing I can think of is that the usb host driver is not loaded into intramfs
[22:54] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, wouldn't it have to be loaded for blkid to be able to get the partitions off of the drive?
[22:54] <debfan> i have a question about running ubuntu on my HDD
[22:54] <debfan> is it okay if I don't install Windows on it?
[22:54] <Physicist> debfan: go on..
[22:54] <strikermgt> Hi, speak spanish?
[22:54] <k1l> !spanish | strikermgt
[22:54] <k1l> debfan: yes that is ok
[22:54] <debfan> or can i create a NTFS partition and leave it
[22:54] <debfan> and install ubuntu on another parition
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> LordHavoc: It may be loaded on the live but might be missing from the install. It's certainly the case for 13.10 with some usb host controllers
[22:55] <k1l> !dualboot | debfan
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> LordNav^^
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed^^ even
[22:55] <strikermgt> Thanks c;
[22:56] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, I'm running blkid from inside intramfs. If that wast he issue, do you know what the fix would be?
[22:56] <khyron> quit
[22:56] <debfan> but, i might have windows on another HDD
[22:56] <debfan> so, i wouldn't need it on my 'ubuntu' drive
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> ahh, if thats the case then its prob ok. what are you getting from "ls"
[22:57] <anotherjesse> With pubkey auth, I CAN ssh into a Saucy locked account (shadow has !) but I CANNOT ssh to a Precise box with locked account (fails with account locked errors).   - is there an option for SSH that allows ssh regardless of shadow password lock-ness?
[22:58] <TJ-> LordNed: I'm wondering if it might be a udev issue, since udev is reponsible for creating the /dev/disk/by-*/ symlinks ... is there anything at all under /dev/disk/* ?
[22:58] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, can I get back to you on that in two hours :p - formatted the wrong jump drive when I went to put 13.10 live installer on my other one.
[22:58] <LordNed>  So I have to install 13.10 now before I can resume trouble shooting, Hooray! :-/
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: lol, np btw, this is the bug i'm reffering to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194
[22:59] <LordNed> It's not an encrypted filesystem if that helps
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: the bug hasd notyhing to do with encrypted filesystems. It just gets noticed by those with encrypted filesystems as they need usb support in initramfs.
[23:01] <LordNed> Ah
[23:02] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: if you get the same problem let me know and I can talk you thru the fix if it is the driver problem
[23:02] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, thank you, very much appreciated!
[23:02] <TJ-> LordNed: Did you try adding "noapic" or "nolapic" to the kernel command-line in GRUB, and then booting? That can often solve issues with flakey interrupt controllers
[23:03] <LordNed> TJ-, I did not
[23:04] <TJ-> LordNed: When you've got the re-install done its worth a try, since what you're looking for is a reason that the device isn't being found by the kernel.
[23:05] <sha0_> i need to install radeonhd, can you help me'
[23:05] <sha0_> ?
[23:05] <sha0_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Heathrow PRO [Radeon HD 7850M/8850M]
[23:06] <sha0_> intel 64bits
[23:06] <LordNed> TJ-, at this point I'm just kicking myself for not having a CD drive ;)
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: its faster to install from usb than cd atleast
[23:07] <firmware92> hey guys im new to ubuntu, where is this windows dir [User Profile]\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Cache  in ubuntu linux, i cant seem to find it
[23:08] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, I don't think so on these two particural USB drives, takes me over an hour without updates ::/
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> firmware92: if you're looking for the eqivalent, cache dir, it's prob in ~/.cache
[23:09] <TJ-> LordNed: Are you doing a minimal or net-install? That is a good way to shorten the install time
[23:09] <LordNed> TJ-, just choosing "Install XUbuntu" - can I trigger a minimal install from a live disk?
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> firmware92: yup ~/.cache/google-chrome/Default/Cache
[23:10] <TJ-> LordNed: The installer images for net install are separate
[23:10] <firmware92> hitsujiTMO: THANKS :)
[23:10] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: More than likely its slow write speeds on the target usb is the problem
[23:10] <LordNed> TJ-, ah
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> you can only boot a minimal iso from cd not usb
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> unless maybe you try it with DriveDroid
[23:15] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, yeah I saw that, gonna pass on it and just install a desktop one
[23:19] <sha0_> is radeonhd working on ubuntu?
[23:20] <hitsujiTMO> sha0_: what exactly is the problem? and what gpu do you have?
[23:21] <sha0_> hitsujiTMO: i cant use gnome becouse my 3d doesnt work
[23:21] <hitsujiTMO> sha0_: what exact gpu do you have?
[23:22] <sha0_> im using fbdev driver
[23:22] <sha0_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Heathrow PRO [Radeon HD 7850M/8850M]
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> sha0_: is it an 7k or 8k gpu that you have?
[23:22] <sha0_> i think this have 2 gpus
[23:22] <sha0_> which driver can i useÇ?
[23:23] <sha0_> instead of fbdev
[23:23] <sha0_> radeonhd is not maintained
[23:23] <sha0_> and latest versions dont use it
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> you will prob need the fglrx. Radeon doesn't currently support 8k and has partial support for 7k.
[23:24] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, Whee, new problem! Tried to make a Live USB for Xubuntu 13.10 (instead of 12.20 I was on) and I get (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live filesystem
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> at initramfs, what do you get from lspci?
[23:25] <sha0_> hitsujiTMO: but there is a bug reported on fglrx, people are uninstalling fglrx :/
[23:25] <sha0_> i will try it
[23:25] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, /bin/sh: lspci: not found
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: /usr/bin/lspci
[23:26] <LordNed> still not found (this is initramfs on a failed live boot btw, not an install)
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: I've a feeling its the same issue. SO this is the sam usb you installed to right?
[23:27] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, No this is a second jump drive that I was able to live boot 12.20 from
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: what are you getting for "ls"
[23:29] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, dev, scripts, conf, usr, cdrom, root, etc, lib, sys, casper.vars, var, sbin, lib64, proc, casper.log, run, bin, init, tmp
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> so its mounting root at least. not usb host issue
[23:29] <LordNed> usr only has "share" and "lib" inside, which is why we can't find /usr/bin/lspci
[23:31] <beandog> What in the world did you do ..
[23:32] <LordNed> I don't know :D Should I try putting 12.20 back on instead of 13.10? :/
[23:32] <beandog> Either way you'll have to do a reinstall.
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: main thing is to verify the iso first.
[23:32] <sha0_> restarting xorg ..
[23:32]  * beandog probably shouldn't jump in halfway
[23:33] <lickalott> lol ^
[23:33] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: can you md5sum the iso file https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: also, do you have an android phone?
[23:34] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, I do have android phone. Nexus 4 running Android 4.4
[23:34] <LordNed> Checking the MD5 now
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed, if it's rooted you could try DroidDrive
[23:34] <LordNed> What's that do hitsujiTMO ?
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: It will turn your phone into a virtual cd drive. Mounts the Iso in droiddrive and emulates a cd device over the usb
[23:35] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, Interesting. I'd have to re-root, just upgraded from 4.3 and lost root.
[23:36] <LordNed> Do you think it'd solve the issues with the 13.10 not booting live? (Still getting the md5 sum to check the iso)
[23:36] <LordNed> yup, md5sums match.
[23:36] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: possibly, if the iso checksum checks out ok.
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: also have you tried disabling legacy usb support?
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: or enabling it if its disabled
[23:38] <LordNed> I have not, I will go do that now.
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: that sometimes causes problems depending on manufacturer
[23:38] <serg91mt> c
[23:38] <serg91mt> csj
[23:39] <serg91mt> culo
[23:39] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, heh, that's not going to work ;) - Both USB drives disappear from the boot menu with that disabled
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> :P and, fast boot is disabled right?
[23:40] <shanahan> i can't view a webpage i made locally using chrome, like it won't show index.html correctly. it will with firefox though
[23:40] <shanahan> it's webGL stuff, three.js
[23:42] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, correct. Gah, complications!
[23:42] <koell> shanahan: which crhome version?
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: only other thing i can think of is dodgy usb
[23:42] <LordNed> Maybe it's time for DroidDrive
[23:43] <shanahan> koell, Version 31.0.1650.63
[23:43] <koell> shanahan: so what do u see? just a blank page?
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> shanahan: set security.fileuri.strict_origin_policy to false
[23:44] <shanahan> koell,  i tried this flag  "google-chrome index.html --allow-file-access-from-files"  and it still doesn't work, no i see the basics of my page
[23:44] <Ice_Strike> I am getting mount error(22): Invalid argument when I execute: sudo mount -t cifs -o username=xxxx,password=xxx,noperms,uid=nobody,gid=users  //<IP_ADDRESS>/Media /mnt/Media
[23:44] <shanahan> hitsujiTMO, what url in chrome is that again? i used to know it i know what ur talking about
[23:45] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, got into GRUB on the live-boot CD by enabling UEFI something... seeing if i can launch the "Try Ubuntu" option... failing that I'll try the "install Xubuntu" one :p
[23:45] <hitsujiTMO> shanahan: about:config
[23:45] <AvengerLives> about:config
[23:45] <shanahan> hitsujiTMO, webpage not available... wtf
[23:46] <shanahan> i am the only user
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> o.O soryy, its changed since i've last had to did in
[23:46] <LordNed> Nope, full circle back. Grr.
[23:46] <koell> shanahan: for such future heavy things i often use chrome nightly builds as a standalone browser. just set there any flag
[23:49] <Stealthys> quick one: packages.ubuntu.com will it be up soon does anyone know? or is there an alternate somewhere?
[23:50] <hitsujiTMO> shanahan: try loading chrom with --disable-web-security
[23:51] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, do you think another Linux flavor other than Xubuntu might give me better results?
[23:52] <firmware92> command line question, when specifying an output file, i want the name to be name then the time it was outputed, is there a easy way to do this, i googled it and i dont think im searhing for the right thing
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: you'll certainly get different results with another flavour
[23:52] <MonkeyDust> Stealthys  https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
[23:52] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, I'm looking for a lightweight one to eventually run headless
[23:52] <LordNed> Suggestions on which flavor? :)
[23:53] <TJ-> firmware92: echo "my file contents" > $(date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S).dat" is probably what you want
[23:54] <Stealthys> MonkeyDust: thanks that will work :)
[23:54] <AvengerLives> LordNed what will your headless system serve?
[23:54] <hitsujiTMO> firmware92: echo "moo" > "cow-`date %T`.txt"
[23:54] <LordNed> AvengerLives, It's for a mining rig, so it needs to have a GUI front end (for graphics drivers)
[23:54] <tux31> what is minimum requirement for ubuntu 12,04
[23:55] <AvengerLives> Have you considered Debian?
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: Debian might be worth a try.
[23:55] <LordNed> AvengerLives, I'll take anything that'll install/run off of an 8gb usb drive :)
[23:55] <AvengerLives> you can load 7.2 Standard and load the X enviroment of your choice
[23:55] <xangua> !requirements | tux31
[23:56] <AvengerLives> For backend machines I have yet to be disappointed.
[23:56] <AvengerLives> also, relatively seemless repository crossover with Ubuntu.
[23:57] <AvengerLives> that is less you concern, but a good comfort
[23:57] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, I'm going to give Xubuntu 12.20 another shot and trying noapic
[23:58] <LordNed> and then I'll go give Debian a shot.
[23:58] <AvengerLives> Good luck
[23:58] <firmware92> hitsujiTMO: dose it matter if its a script? the line is going to be going as follows avconv -i ./download ~/Music/untitled/"download-`date %T`.flac"
[23:58] <TJ-> firmware92: "date %T" is a syntax error
[23:59] <firmware92> TJ- how would you recommend to do it?


[09:12] <Na3iL> o/
[09:14] <Kilos> greetings everyone how do i get the log bot back in #ubuntu-africa please
[09:18] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:18] <Kilos> o/
[09:18] <czajkowski> Kilos: is looking to get the irc logging bot into a channel
[09:18] <czajkowski> Pici: any idea if its here or elsewhere?
[09:19] <Kilos> ty for your help czajkowski
[09:19] <czajkowski> np
[09:19] <k1l> wait, i will ask the canonical server team
[09:19] <Kilos> ty k1l
[09:21] <k1l> seems like the bot crashed or due to a netsplit it didnt rejoin all channels. it even was missing from #ubuntu for some days.
[09:22] <Kilos> ah
[09:23] <Na3iL> weird k1l I noticed that


[18:14] <olly> morning
[18:31] <Atamira> morning
[19:46] <kcj> Morning.
[20:04] <lifeless> olly: http://i.imgur.com/8cEBpMB.png
[20:13] <olly> lifeless: yeah, i should have been suspicious when it went in first try
[20:15] <chilts> morning
[20:35] <thumper> morning
[20:38] <ajmitch> morning
[20:45] <snail> morning
[21:01] <ibeardslee> morning


[20:56] <rstricklin> folks - I have been running into kernel panics with the 16.04.5 HWE kernel (4.15.0-29). It seems to be related to this bug -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1772038
[20:56] <rstricklin> I see that there is a 4.15.0-43 kernel (with udebs) published in the repo, but the installer still has 4.15.0-29 for the netboot kernel
[20:57] <rstricklin> Can somebody help me find a road past this?
[20:57] <rstricklin> for example, is the netboot kernel at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hwe-netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/ ever likely to be change dfrom 4.15.0-29?
[20:59] <rstricklin> or am I going to need to prepare my own netboot kernel and initrd, if I need something newer, in which case I'd be looking for information about what (if anything) is special about the netboot kernel, and if there's any existing automation around building initrds that can help me get the right set of modules in it, etc.
[20:59] <rstricklin> for now just trying to figure out where i'm at and what the likely paths forward are


[04:05] <vibhav> j #ubuntu-community-team
[04:06] <vibhav> oops, sorry :)
[07:42] <Whoopie> debfx: Hi, I just wanted to remind you that the virtualbox unresolved symbol issue is still present with 4.2.10 (libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/vboxvideo_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/vboxvideo_dri.so: undefined symbol: XCompositeQueryExtension)).
[10:40] <doko> xnox, do you take care about the Tcl/Tk multiarch ftbfs?
[10:55] <doko> bdrung_, are you going to fix libarchive? sponsored by you
[10:57] <debfx> Whoopie: right, I completely forgot about that. I have done way too many virtualbox uploads yesterday ...
[11:08]  * mitya57_ wonders what MANUALDEPWAIT is
[11:13] <mitya57_> doko, bdrung_: looks like we need a MIR for lrzip to fix libarchive
[11:13] <doko> mitya57_, or drop the lrzip b-d
[11:19] <mitya57_> that'll introduce a delta that I don't think anybody wants to carry
[11:57] <didrocks> probably a stupid question, but does anyone know if we have a debhelper/dpkg command to know from a source package all archs from all the binaries file generated by this source?
[11:58] <didrocks> or should I do the parsing by hand?
[12:40] <debfx> Whoopie: I've uploaded a fix.
[13:11] <jdstrand> @pilot in
[13:29] <ScottK> ogra_: Congratulations on the chromium-browser build for armhf.
[13:29] <ogra_> ScottK, well, it was a one char fix
[13:29] <ScottK> It's not the size of the fix, it's finding where to make it.
[13:29] <ogra_> (the effort to get it into the package was way bigger than the fix itself)
[13:40] <mitya57> can we use "lite" version of upstream tarball (which probably has less embedded libraries)?
[13:40] <mitya57> https://gsdview.appspot.com/chromium-browser-official/?marker=chromium-21.0.1168.0.tar.bz%40
[13:44] <ogra_> well, that will likely also have less functionality
[13:44] <ogra_> err
[13:44] <ogra_> lite ?
[13:46] <ogra_> the saved 50M wont really help so much i guess
[13:59] <highvolt1ge> ogra_: very funny ;)
[13:59] <ogra_> :)
[14:16] <Riddell> ogra_: winding up my poor community! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2013-April/006928.html
[14:16] <ogra_> yeah, just heard about it :)
[14:16]  * ogra_ giggles
[14:16] <ogra_> to sad he isnt aroudn to clearify
[14:17] <ScottK> Humor is apparently wasted on the young.
[14:17] <ogra_> yeah, i hope he isnt venting too much now
[14:19] <ScottK> Where did he fail to see the humor?  I must not be reading the right place?
[14:20] <dobey> ScottK: maybe he thinks the euro really is a stable currency
[14:20] <ScottK> Found it.
[14:21] <ScottK> That should have been enough of a clue right there.
[14:25] <ScottK> Apparently I try to trick my 10 year old daughter far too often on other days to make April Fools any fun at all.  She's sufficiently skeptical to start with, I didn't pull one off yet.
[14:33] <Riddell> dobey: that's the Hong Kong British legacy, euro is stable from the view of those of us using Sterling
[14:33] <ogra_> heh
[17:23] <infinity> siretart: Bah.  mplayer is FTBFS in raring and I didn't notice until after I uploaded an unrelated change.  Do you have a fix for the current failure?  Looks like it needs a bit of porting to a new API, maybe?
[17:49] <jdstrand> @pilot out
[18:49] <mterry> doko, why does component-mismatches point cinder to python-babel?  I can't see it from the source
[19:30] <doko> mterry: python-cinder depends on python-babel
[19:31] <mterry> doko, yar, I get that, but I'm just not sure how.  I grepped cinder source for babel, but got no hits
[19:33] <mterry> doko, ah...  in requires.txt, there is Babel.  But it's not used in the source I don't think
[19:33] <mterry> ah...  I get it now.  babel.cfg
[19:51] <mdz> soren, is TB in 10 minutes?
[19:52] <mdz> we're out of the DST triangle now right?
[19:52] <stgraber> my phone says it's in 10min
[19:52] <ogra_> europe is on summer time now
[19:53] <stgraber> and it's 21:00 in London in 10min, so yeah, TB meeting is in 10min
[19:53] <stgraber> (well, more like 7 by now)
[19:56] <mdz> has anyone heard from soren? he wasn't at the previous meeting
[19:57] <stgraber> mdz: he recently sent an e-mail to the TB mailing-list (27th)
[19:58] <mdz> I wonder if he knows he is chairing
[19:58] <stgraber> ah, yeah, looks like you didn't mention it in the minutes
[19:59] <siretart> infinity: bah, that looks like some change in liblivemedia is responsible for that
[19:59] <stgraber> mdz: anyway, if soren doesn't show up I'll chair
[20:00] <mdz> ok, thanks for that
[20:00] <mdz> I should have emailed him but didn't
[20:01] <siretart> infinity: when looking at the upstream's commits, this patch might fix it: http://paste.debian.net/246471/
[20:06] <soren> bryce: Can you join us in #ubuntu-meeting to talk about the Xserver MRE?
[20:20] <siretart> infinity: nope, that patch is obviously not enough :(
[20:42] <siretart> infinity: i think i have a workaround: disable live555 support completely for now. my testbuild is still running, but if it works, I'm going to upload that to raring. at least for the time being
[21:08] <infinity> BenC: New kernel based on 3.8.5, if you have the time to quickly rebase PPC.  If not, it can wait until post-beta.
[21:09] <BenC> infinity: Should I expect an ABI bump from 3.8.4?
[21:09] <infinity> Dunno.  Master had one, but that could be unrelated.
[21:10] <infinity> BenC: Not that it would hurt to artificially bump ABI, if you don't want to bother with a testbuild to find out.
[21:10] <infinity> (Of course, every time you skip a test build, upstream breaks one of your drivers...)
[21:12] <infinity> zequence / apw: Anyone going to get linux-lowlatency caught up?
[21:13] <zequence> infinity: I've prepared package sources in our team ppa. Not sure if I'm missing something still
[21:13] <infinity> zequence: For SRU or raring?  (I realize my question was originally ambiguous, since we're behind on a few releases)
[21:14] <zequence> infinity: SRU. I don't do raring yet
[21:16] <ScottK> If there's a desktop'ish person around you may want to rmadison unity-2d|grep raring and see if maybe something's getting auto updated that shouldn't.
[21:16] <infinity> ScottK: Looks fine to me...
[21:17] <ScottK> infinity: unity-2d is still being developed?
[21:17] <infinity> ScottK: No, it's just a transitional package that depends on unity for "smooth" upgrade purposes.
[21:17] <infinity> ScottK: And needs to be in place until 14.04.
[21:17] <ScottK> Ah.
[21:17] <ScottK> Forgot to check that bit.
[21:17] <ScottK> Thanks.
[21:18] <infinity> I use the term "smooth" very loosely here, since the world comes crashing down if you have no useful OpenGL support, but...
[21:19] <ogra_> in 14.04 unity will depend on Mir anyway ...
[21:53] <ScottK> http://techland.time.com/2013/04/01/google-april-fools/?hpt=hp_t4 <-- "We tried orange; brown: brown was a disaster."
[22:57] <infinity> BenC: So, yea or nay on the linux-ppc rebase?  Trying to decide if I hold off on a d-i upload for it or not.
[22:58] <infinity> BenC: (ARM has about 5 hours to go in its build, so sometime before that would be nice)
[22:59] <BenC> infinity: In about 30 minutes


[15:46] <damascene> Hello, I've sent this question before reporting a bug. I did not get the answer I want https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+question/281087
[15:47] <damascene> Do you all have all variations of English installed on your system? Australian, British, Canadian and New Zealand like me?


[05:31] <cyphermox> handsome_feng: I am
[05:31] <cyphermox> I missed your ping, there was a typo
[05:32] <cyphermox> it's about the first slide of the slideshow, isn't it?
[05:32] <cyphermox> I'm afraid it's too late :/
[05:40] <handsome_feng> cyphermox: Hi, yes, and I think so it's too late, so maybe take a SRU after release
[13:02] <cyphermox> handsome_feng: a SRU won't help you there unfortunately
[13:03] <cyphermox> SRU is no use for release when it's not an LTS -- we don't rebuild new images
[13:03] <cyphermox> well
[13:03] <cyphermox> you can start the live image, run update-manager, and then run ubiquity, but I do not think people really do that


[16:35] <astraljava> If anyone wants to help in assuring we get a new image for 11.10, please test the QA image (test install and report!)
[16:35] <astraljava> If you need assistance, just say the word.
[16:43] <azm> I see we are moving to xfce
[16:45] <azm> astraljava, is this right link: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntustudio/all
[16:45] <azm> I can download and test
[16:45] <azm> oh I cant :/
[16:46] <azm> I dont have spare disk
[16:46] <azm> but manual partition is available
[16:47] <astraljava> azm: Yes, that is the correct link. Can you perhaps use virtualization?
[16:48] <azm> astraljava, like run the iso installation in from virtualbox ?
[16:48] <astraljava> Yes, exactly.
[16:48] <azm> well ok
[16:48] <astraljava> Thank you! :)
[17:52] <azm> astraljava, so I tried install 64 bit version and got an issue with vt-x/amd-v
[17:52] <azm> since I have it enabled in bios I dont know where to go
[17:52] <azm> I can test 32 bit if needed
[17:53] <azm> or I can try flash bios..
[18:44] <astraljava> azm: I'd be surprised if you needed to flash bios for that. What are the issues that you're facing?
[18:55] <azm> astraljava, already solved it and installing
[19:30] <azm> astraljava, should choose all software or just audio ?
[19:30] <azm> during the installation
[19:35] <astraljava> Either way. Choosing all will give you more chances of catching a bug, but choosing none will give you more chances of finishing the installation.
[19:36] <azm> haha
[19:36] <azm> well I have to step up from pc
[19:36] <azm> sometimes
[19:38] <astraljava> We all have to, at some point. To go to toilet, or to bed. Are there other such incidents?
[19:38] <azm> yea I have busy household
[19:39]  * astraljava tried to be sarcastic, failing epicly it seems
[19:41] <azm> oh, well I thought you were serious
[19:41] <azm> it took me time to google up the  vt-x/amd-v issue
[19:41] <azm> it looks like its testing laready
[19:42] <azm> black screen
[19:42]  * astraljava spends about 19 hours a day with computers, and _really_ doesn't expect others to do the same :D
[19:42] <azm> with lots output ok/fail
[19:43] <astraljava> azm: If you could pastebin those, and link to that on the QA report, would be great!
[19:43] <astraljava> +
[19:44] <azm> astraljava, I got stuck at: plymounth command failed
[19:44] <azm> Disconnected from plymouth
[19:45] <astraljava> Wow, that's a new one.
[19:47] <azm> astraljava, http://i.imgur.com/eg7aj.png
[19:47] <azm> cant paste as tke keyboard does not work
[19:50] <azm> astraljava, is there something more  I can do?
[20:02] <azm> How do I remove jack2 without uninstalling other software ?
[20:15] <holstein> azm: i think falktx has a jack1 ppa
[20:16] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/jack1
[20:16] <holstein> says 'depends on main"
[20:16] <holstein> i would make sure you feel comfortable with purge-ppa
[20:16] <azm> holstein, we already resolving in osm :)
[20:16] <holstein> azm: OH.. i see you found falk :)
[20:34] <azm> astraljava, Im installing the QA with full software
[20:48] <astraljava> azm: Dependencies are like that.  If you remove one that has others, you're bound to lose them.
[20:48] <astraljava> It works both ways.
[20:49] <astraljava> There are the --force- flags, but I wouldn't recommend using them unless the last resort.
[20:49] <azm> yea
[20:49] <azm> I just compiled it to usr
[21:23] <azm> astraljava, it is much worse
[21:24] <azm> I cant get over step: Select and Install software
[21:24] <azm> I get error and it throw be back
[21:24] <azm> I thought it was my mistake before
[21:26] <azm> astraljava, http://i.imgur.com/NU7vH.png
[21:39] <holstein> azm: theres a step at the end
[21:40] <holstein> you can make a sever, and grab the error log
[21:40] <holstein> azm: /join ubuntustudio-devel
[21:54] <azm> holstein, after installation I run it and get bootsplash error
[21:54] <azm> make server ?
[21:55] <holstein> azm: at the end of the list when the installer fails
[21:55] <holstein> you can create a webserver on the box
[21:55] <holstein> and get a definitive answer about what broke the install
[21:55] <holstein> you have to be at that point though
[21:56] <azm> holstein, save debug logs ?
[21:56] <azm> should I skip to that?
[21:56] <azm> because If I let it install it will just be complete
[21:56] <holstein> azm: whatever
[21:56] <azm> the installation is not broken
[21:56] <holstein> if you are still getting that 'failed' screen
[21:56] <holstein> thats what im talking about
[22:00] <azm> web server seems to be not responding
[22:00] <azm> it's all borked !!
[22:00] <azm> like my jack
[22:01] <azm> :D
[22:04] <holstein> lol


[08:49] <xnox> LP: #1751613
[08:50] <xnox> bug 1751613
[08:50] <xnox> bug #1751613
[08:52] <WrathOfAchilles> LP: #1751613
[08:52] <ubot3> Launchpad bug 1751613 in linux (Ubuntu) "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/ast_dp501_fw.bin for module ast" [Medium, Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751613
[09:55] <ogra> hello ubot !
[09:55] <ogra> 🙂
[09:55] <ogra> juergh, ^^^
[10:34] <juergh> ogra, \o/
[15:23] <xnox> =)
[15:23] <xnox> i asked on ubuntu-irc and Unit* did it from there.
[15:24] <ogra> yeah, flowers go to xnox for that one


[20:22] <vhenry93> Hi, just joined the Docteam, and Intro points to a Beginners Team to help get started, but no indication of how to contact this team. Can anyone point me in the right direction?


[22:46] <stgraber> would be nice if one of you guys could look at the fixes attached to bug 785280
[22:46] <Guest29594> Launchpad bug 785280 in gentoo (and 5 other projects) "transparency not working with intel driver and LTSP (affects: 5) (heat: 32)" [Medium,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/785280
[22:46] <stgraber> as I said in the comment, if it looks good to you, I'm happy to sponsor all of them and nag people to do the required testing for the SRU
[22:47] <stgraber> (as the LTSP maintainer, I know quite a few people who've been affected by that bug ;))
[22:59] <Sarvatt> stgraber: that one was NAKed by the x-x-v-intel maintainer saying it would cause problems and he fixed it another way upstream in the past few hours
[22:59] <Sarvatt> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/patch/?id=2174f840158aa9cfa370ade38be28f8dc8e4b526 is the real fix
 [15:56:56] ickle, concerning the bug #40926, can you explain to me what's wrong with the patch I submitted ? I would like to understand what is happening instead of poking stuff in the dark
 [16:03:28] mgariepy: it puts the bo into the wrong cache domain, and worse sets the write flag
 [16:03:56] besides which it only fortuituously fixes the issue
[23:00] <Guest29594> Launchpad bug 40926 in epiphany-browser (Ubuntu) "Could not create (print) PDF (dup-of: 5785)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40926
[23:00] <Guest29594> Launchpad bug 5785 in epiphany-browser (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "error message when trying to print to pdf is not clear (dups: 1)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5785
[23:00] <Sarvatt> whoops
[23:08] <Sarvatt> spinning up new packages now, natty one might take a bit because I need to fix it up to apply to 2.14
[23:19] <Sarvatt> stgraber: I packaged them all up here but do not have upload rights if you could help out - http://sarvatt.com/downloads/sru/ I am likely to disappear really soon though for UDS night time activities so I'll chase it down tomorrow if you can't :)
[23:20] <Sarvatt> build tested the oneiric version, log is in there
[23:20] <Sarvatt> there are debdiffs as well as the full packages, not sure which would be more useful
[23:29] <bjsnider> Sarvatt, uds nighttime activities == drinking & carousing?
[23:29] <Sarvatt> but of course! :)
[23:30] <bjsnider> next time hold the thing in vegas
[23:30] <Sarvatt> then noone would show up for sessions
[23:33] <bjsnider> oh, what a tragedy that would be
[23:36] <Prf_Jakob> Sarvatt: have you held the which mesa do we pick session yet?
[23:57] <Sarvatt> Prf_Jakob: yeah not deciding till late january but its pretty much a given it'll be 7.12/8.0
[23:58] <Prf_Jakob> Ok
[23:58] <Sarvatt> Prf_Jakob: if I see robclark i'll ask him to pop on, he's here


[20:18] <DistroFeud> can i install ubuntu on my android device?
[20:18] <DistroFeud> cause its got old android and im afraid of security gaps
[20:21]  * genii makes more coffee


[07:15] <Syntux> wohaaa! why would propel fail to execute a native query when the very same query works fine on the console eh!
[07:17] <Syntux> oopss, wrong channel
[07:17] <Syntux> not again
[13:37] <m1r> hello
[13:37] <m1r> anyone around ?


[00:32] <Unit193> doko: Ah, cool.
[00:32] <Unit193> (I'd contacted the Debian maintainer a little bit ago with git based updates for 1.1.7)
[01:27] <infinity> wxl: No idea.   :P
[01:40] <wxl> infinity: oh, yeah, right. let me check in with him. meanwhile, what's the d-day given current expirations dates?
[01:43] <infinity> wxl: We expire in 5 days,
[01:47] <wxl> infinity: you've got another week
[05:30] <doko> well designed version numnbers ... 1.7.0~alpha2ubuntu2+really1.6.2ubuntu1
[05:32] <juliank> doko: yes
[12:58] <realitix> Hello, a patch has been submitted upstream for this bug, I would like to know when it will be available in ubuntu 14.04, is there a place to see that ?
[12:58] <realitix> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-7/+bug/1778930
[13:09] <LocutusOfBorg> realitix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#SRU_Bug_Template
[13:09] <LocutusOfBorg> please fill the data
[13:09] <ahasenack> realitix: the bug is the right place. I'm a little confused with the proliferation of java machines nowadays, though. Is the bug in openjdk or icedtea? Both? The patch is for icedtea, right?
[13:11] <realitix> ahasenack: yes the bug is in icedtea, but if I understand properly, the openjdk package is icedtea
[13:11] <realitix> LocutusOfBorg: Do I need to create a debdiff ?
[13:13] <LocutusOfBorg> realitix, I don't even find the file to patch in sources
[13:13] <LocutusOfBorg> find . -name jvm.cpp
[13:13] <LocutusOfBorg> returns nothing
[13:17] <LocutusOfBorg> oh... tarballs :/
[13:17] <ahasenack> java is always so pleasant, isn't it
[13:24]  * LocutusOfBorg wants to cry
[13:26] <LocutusOfBorg> we might have a patch here https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+sourcepub/9299391/+listing-archive-extra
[13:26] <realitix> I put the link to the patch at the end (icedtea source)
[13:27] <realitix> LocutusOfBorg: Your link seems good!
[13:32] <realitix> LocutusOfBorg: You are very fast, amazing ;-)
[14:00] <LocutusOfBorg> realitix, it didn't build :/
[14:05] <LocutusOfBorg> realitix, can you please do the SRU_Bug_Template paperwork?
[14:41] <realitix> ok I will try
[15:02] <rbasak> !dmb-ping
[15:05] <tsimonq2> Unit193: Were you around for a DMB meeting?
[15:05] <tsimonq2> Unit193: I know you had specific time requirements; I'm not sure if you're around now or not.
[20:45] <Unit193> tsimonq2: Nope.
[20:46] <tsimonq2> Unit193: Ah.
[21:11] <Unit193> Eh?  What list has a pseudonym concern?
[21:25] <tsimonq2> Unit193: The private DMB one.
[23:11] <doko> tjaalton: emacs wants to pull xaw3d and xutils into main. could you have a look at that? are these ok for main?


[10:08] <dirtwash> https://maas.io/install is faulty and wrong
[10:08] <dirtwash> steps followed to not work at all


[09:11] <ogasawara> apw: thanks for investigating that kernel-wedge build issue
[09:12] <ogasawara> apw: I saw all my builds failed but then had to leave for the airport
[09:12] <ogasawara> apw: we missed our connection and are stuck in AMS til this evening
[12:45] <ralphcor> Hi, CONFIG_MEMTEST isn't defined by default.  I know of memtest86+ but memtest.c gives a memtest=N kernel parameter that runs N tests every boot, maps out bad memory, and being __init disappears later.  memtest86+ runs until killed, although its tests are better.
[12:45] <ralphcor> Would a wishlist bug for CONFIG_MEMTEST be the way to go?
[12:46] <ralphcor> memtest.c gives the paranoid the ability to "run a few tests every boot".
[12:47] <penguin42> ralphcor: What does it do when the test fails?
[12:48] <ralphcor> penguin42: printk KERN_INFO and reserve_early().  http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v<IP_ADDRESS>/arch/x86/mm/memtest.c#L32
[12:51] <penguin42> I guess you could also do something that watched for those and told the user if it survived that long, or spotted them in reported oopss
[12:52] <manjo> apw, ping
[12:55] <ralphcor> penguin42: I suppose so, but just being able to look at dmesg post-boot and see if memtest.c was happy would be useful.  I'm finding the in RAM copy of files can have four bytes, spaced 16 apart, differ from the on disc file after a day or two of uptime.  But translating the virtual address of that file+offset into physical RAM address can't be easily done, AFAICS.  And memtest86+ is happy, as I say.  So CONFIG_MEMTEST would be another option.
[12:56] <penguin42> ralphcor: Nasty; you're assuming that's a RAM problem
[12:58] <penguin42> ralphcor: Are they always at the same offset into any 512byte block?
[12:58] <ralphcor> penguin42: True, I am, but then a userspace memory tester has also, once, come up with the same symptom after a few minutes, but never again, which seems to rule out the hard drive -> RAM route.  So it's probably happening to other pages of RAM too, it's just the output of lsof is a handy list of files to check.
[13:00] <ralphcor> penguin42: No.  Here's one where the four RAM bytes are corrupted to become 0x00.  http://dorset.pastebin.com/KgLM9jtU
[13:01] <ralphcor> penguin42: And a second that shows a more complex corruption.  http://dorset.pastebin.com/GsGYGAD6
[13:02] <ralphcor> Ignore the commentary in the first, it was before I cottoned on to the RAM copy being duff, and not my copy of the root partition.
[13:02] <penguin42> ralphcor: Wow, those are weird - I've not seen things vertically changed like that - 4 bytes in a row isn't too unusual
[13:03] <ralphcor> penguin42: Me neither.  Although 16 bytes is 128 bits which may be a cache line length on this 64-bit arch?  That the offset within the 16-bytes differs is strange though.
[13:05] <ralphcor> Who knows, perhaps if memtest=N was easily available we'd see more detection of RAM problems helping to point the finger for some of these random kernel crashes.
[13:05] <penguin42> yeh
[13:06] <penguin42> ralphcor: I can imagine if one chip in a DIMM wasn't getting write enabled some of the time or a bad connection then I guess you might see something like that - but it's still odd
[13:06] <ralphcor> I was also wondering out of interest if memtest86+ uses all available cores.
[13:08] <ralphcor> penguin42: Agreed.  If I could get physical address for every fault then I could look for such a pattern.  But not being able to do that from userspace is a hamper.  memtest=N would report physical addresses, I hope.  It's walking through e820 areas.
[13:09] <penguin42> yeh
[15:56] <lamont> so about these getattr calls that apparmor is denying... what's the change to the profile to make them happy again?
[16:12] <pavolzetor> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-power/+bug/257827
[16:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 257827 in linux (Ubuntu Intrepid) (and 3 other projects) "brightness changes twice when using hotkeys (affects: 7) (dups: 1) (heat: 70)" [Medium,Fix released]
[16:12] <pavolzetor> can you hep me
[22:36] <lamont> so.. maverick kernel (just linux-image-2.6.35-9-generic), lucid userspace:  what am I missing that it no longer finds access points?
[22:39] <lamont> meh.  broadcom wireless nic seems to be getting ignored
[22:42] <ripps> whoa... I thought I had a good understanding of packaging, but than I took a look at the l-b-m packaging...
[22:49] <lamont> that's one seriously complicated package.