[00:00] <OerHeks> extended support thingy https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/choosing-firefox-update-channel
[00:00] <OerHeks> the funny part: Disabling System Addon Updates
[00:00] <OerHeks> lolz
[00:01] <OerHeks> so, you *must* have a reason to use ESR
[00:01] <CrazyLikeAFox> well, it's not trying to be drop-in compatible with all firefox extensions
[00:14] <uio> No ideas??
[00:16] <Gosset> hi, is there a way of changing the icons' text color from white to black in Ubuntu Mate 18? Thanks...
[00:19] <uio> Hi, using Lubuntu 16.04 LTS on an Asus Eee PC Flare series. I just installed the updates via the update centre today and now when I boot I can see the decrypt screen fine, but the login screen is all black. If I use the Fn keys to ak the machine hiberanate then upon pressing the 'on' button it resumes and screen is fine. I didn't have this issue before, but perhaps I should mention that the decrypt screen is always too dim unless I use the brightness keys. The
[00:19] <uio> brightness keys have no effect on this new problem though. Any thoughts? Thanks!
[00:22] <crimson_king> uio, I think I have the same problem here. I switch TTY to work around it.
[00:22] <crimson_king> Try switching to another TTY, and then returning to TTY 7, if that's where the display manager appears.
[00:23] <crimson_king> If we're talking about the same problem, it will show you the login screen properly.
[00:23] <uio> crimson_king, Is it since the update?
[00:24] <uio> Hmmmm. Any ideas on what the cause is?
[00:25] <crimson_king> You're on Ubuntu 16. I run Ubuntu 18 and 19. Maybe the package that causes the problem was backported/updated to Ubuntu 16, and then you started having the problem.
[00:25] <crimson_king> Lubuntu*
[00:26] <uio> crimson_king, I see. I was working fine until today when I applied the updates. Albeit somewhate late, as I had put it off. I'll give your workaround a go... I was having a similar issue in Debian and that's why I put Lubuntu on it, but Canonical has failed me too!
[00:27] <crimson_king> uio, if we're having the same problem, it is not Canonical's fault. This is reproducible everywhere, on Arch, Fedora, Debian... I don't know which component is causing it. I think I created a bug report about it, let me search it.
[00:28] <CrazyLikeAFox> crimson_king: Are you tired of jokes about your court? :s
[00:29] <uio> crimson_king, I think it's a different issue. On Debian when I had it before, tty didn't work. This one is a case where Canonical had something working… and then broke it. Alas. I'm looking into going to test out Debian 10 anyway, this was just for the last few days.
[00:32] <tomreyn> uio: may i suggest you take a look at your logs? this may bear a greater potential in solving the issues or coming up with a workaround at least.
[00:35] <tomreyn> hmm actually lubuntu 16.04 is !eol
[00:35] <tomreyn> at least the 'l' part in it
[00:36] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL#Ubuntu_16.04_Xenial_Xerus
[00:45] <tomreyn> i see you got replies in #lubuntu, too.
[00:45] <uio> Sorry, thanks, but I have to go, I'll be back another time!a
[00:46] <ikatamoonshots> yay! can boot the new amd vega on 5.* kernel when setting nomodeset in grub cmdline options
[00:47] <tomreyn> sure, because then you run in vesa mode
[00:48] <Bashing-om> ikatamoonshots: ^^ nomodeset defeats kernel Mode Setting - not a long term solution.
[00:48] <tomreyn> better install latest kernel, oibaf or padoka mesa and newer amd firmware and boot without nomodeset.
[00:49] <tomreyn> maybe with amdgpu.dc=0 if it still doesn't work then.
[00:49] <ikatamoonshots> does that affect performance ?
[00:49] <tomreyn> vesa? yes, very much.
[00:49] <tomreyn> also resolution
[00:50] <ikatamoonshots> i applied the nomodeset to boot with the latest kernel in 18.04 which is 5.* , the older kernels boot fine without the grub option
[00:50] <tomreyn> which graphics card do you actually have?
[00:50] <ikatamoonshots> the card is amd vega 20 "amd vii"
[00:51] <ikatamoonshots> i want to run opencl applications
[00:51] <OerHeks> tomreyn, i found https://askubuntu.com/questions/1121782/radeon-vii-and-ubuntu-problems already
[00:51] <tomreyn> oh, hmm. well the mesa implementation is not that optimized, yet
[00:51] <tomreyn> * opencl that is
[00:52] <ikatamoonshots> have seen the page already, chatted here not long ago about it, just installed a new ubuntu and set the nomodset to boot the kernel 5.
[00:53] <ikatamoonshots> now need to figure if installing the headless amdpro is better than the full stack i guess
[00:53] <ikatamoonshots> apparently only way to get opencl support on ubuntu?
[00:53] <tomreyn> thanks OerHeks.
[00:54] <tomreyn> ikatamoonshots: what do you mean by "headless amdpro"?
[00:54] <ikatamoonshots> theres an option to install it headless , opencl only and keep the main driver installed - thats how i understood it
[00:55] <tomreyn> there are two ways to opencl. one if amdgpu-pro, you probably want to stay on 18.04 with the defualt or hwe kernel then, no padoka, no oibaf, downgrade everything.
[00:55] <tomreyn> and follow amds instructions and get support from there.
[00:56] <tomreyn> or you can try oibaf + padoka mesa and the kernel they recommend.
[00:56] <ikatamoonshots> these are the stack variants https://amdgpu-install.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install-overview.html
[00:58] <tomreyn> i guess that's correct
[00:58] <ikatamoonshots> the download repo has a slightly updated version
[00:58] <tomreyn> if you only care about computation then go the amdgpu-pro route
[00:58] <ikatamoonshots> headless or full?
[00:58] <tomreyn> well if only computation matters then you certainly want headless
[00:59] <ikatamoonshots> yeah, thats what the card is for
[00:59] <tomreyn> dont waste cycles on the gui
[00:59] <ikatamoonshots> on it xD
[01:04] <tomreyn> ikatamoonshots: note this guide you'Re following is somewhat old, refers to outdated amdgpu-pro versions. maybe better follow their website.
[01:04] <tomreyn> oh i take this back, https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-amdgpu-unified-navi-linux points to your guide
[01:05] <ikatamoonshots> i follow the guide from the repo i downloadded, but round up its all the same.
[01:05] <ikatamoonshots> they dont give any kernel instruction nor say on what kernel its build
[01:06] <ikatamoonshots> installed amd pro headless and got a neat warning.
[01:06] <ikatamoonshots> WARNING: nomodeset detected in kernel parameters, amdgpu requires KMS
[01:07] <ikatamoonshots> say i disable nomodeset again and see if it boots in the 5 kernel - just have to check the grub and x11 optons
[01:08] <tomreyn> i don't think you need X11 for opencl
[01:10] <tomreyn> "Ubuntu 18.04.2" is listed as compatible. so i'd expect this refers to 18.04.2 with !HWE kernel.
[01:10] <ikatamoonshots> default i hasnt booted in the 5 kernel, thats why i have set nomodeset in the first place
[01:10] <tomreyn> i'm not convinced AMD tested against the recently arrived 5.0 kernel in 18.04.2 (HWE) though.
[01:11] <tomreyn> they probably tested against 4.18
[01:11] <ikatamoonshots> from what i read the 4.15 kernel worked for others, but that was with amd linux 18.* , now its 1.*
[01:12] <ikatamoonshots> either 4.15 or 4.18 ,yeah
[01:12] <tomreyn> 19.30 is the latest amdgpu-pro compatible to your hardware
[01:12] <ikatamoonshots> wont take too long to figure that out
[01:12] <ikatamoonshots> yeah, downloaded and isntalled the headless
[01:12] <tomreyn> actually 19.20, sorry
[01:13] <tomreyn> https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-lin-19-20-unified
[01:13] <tomreyn> anyways, that's as far as we can help here
[01:14] <ikatamoonshots> already on it, last thing unclear is grub options for amd gpu - amdgpu.dc=1 ....... have to read up about those, yesterday when i was that far no app detected opencl devices
[01:16] <tomreyn> modinfo -p amdgpu
[01:16] <ikatamoonshots> mom, need to reboot
[01:25] <ikatamoonshots> so, after default install of AMDGPU-pro headless im now in the 4.15 kernel, both 4.15, 4.18 boot, 5.* doesent
[01:25] <ikatamoonshots> modinfo -p amdgpu
[01:25] <ikatamoonshots> https://pastebin.com/MWKgCvKt
[01:32] <ikatamoonshots> $ sudo clinfo -a
[01:32] <ikatamoonshots> Number of platforms  0
[01:32] <ikatamoonshots> ?
[01:58] <noobMadridUCM> hello community
[01:59] <noobMadridUCM> :)
[03:03] <gde33> I use an old psu that only has old connectors so I've connected an old hdd to the cdrom wires. is there something I need to do to make it possible for the live usb to install the bootloader?
[03:04] <gde33> it currently fails, it also cant find grub-install grub2-install boot-repair and wont install those
[03:06] <gde33> keep having to use gparted to make the disk usable again
[03:10] <Bashing-om>    nn nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn         mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[03:11] <Bashing-om> ooopps :(
[04:47] <independent> .
[05:21] <dirtwash> mysql-server 5.7 ssems broken on 18.04?
[05:21] <tarzeau> dirtwash: details?
[05:22] <dirtwash> after upgrade just now dpkg reports failure: mysql_upgrade: [ERROR] 1146: Table 'mysql.gtid_executed' doesn't exist
[05:22] <dirtwash> was running fine before and earlier upgrades
[05:22] <dirtwash> well itstarts manually at least
[05:24] <dirtwash> hm possible remnants from an old upgrade, previous upgrades didnt trigger that though
[05:25] <TJ-> dirtwash: it may well be, the post-install script had some rather complex scenarios to try to figure out, see the shell script at /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.7.postinst
[05:35] <teliot> i have some SBC orange pi zero's i am playing with. i loaded them up with ubuntu core and made a snap on my desktop system. the SBC's are using core18 and wont let me run snapcraft, the desktop is not responding to snapcraft --target-arch=armhf  any ideas on the best way to get the snap on ubuntu core?
[05:35] <teliot> when the i try to snap install snapcraft from the core18 SBC i get "error: snap "snapcraft" requires classic confinement which is only available on classic systems"
[05:38] <pennTeller> Hi guys, is there a way to scan for all my hardware that may require propietary firmware *afterr* ubuntu is already installed?
[06:37] <fling> https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.19.63/
[06:37] <fling> I'm failing to find shiftfs patch there ^
[06:38] <fling> Is there a separate repo/branch?
[06:45] <SaEeDIRHA> hey guys , how is it possible to share the user's default desktop in ubuntu using VNC? i am using TigerVNC, but everytime i connect to the server it creats new desktop session and i am missing all the icons and files added to desktop
[06:45] <SaEeDIRHA> i guess something has to be added to xstartup script but i dont know how the gnome session works to create the initilization script to load the user's settings for each user
[06:46] <fling> SaEeDIRHA: x11vnc
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> SaEeDIRHA: is it on an offline LAN, or are those machines connected to internet
[06:47] <SaEeDIRHA> lotuspsychje, its a LAN
[06:47] <fling> SaEeDIRHA: there is also x2go
[06:47] <SaEeDIRHA> fling, i tried x11vnc but still the same problem
[06:48] <SaEeDIRHA> when i connect that way i get black screen with mouse cursor
[06:48] <fling> SaEeDIRHA: x11vnc connects to your running session
[06:48] <fling> SaEeDIRHA: it shares your screens over vnc
[06:48] <fling> SaEeDIRHA: maybe you have multiple sessions running and x11vnc connects to a wrong one?
[06:49] <fling> To one created by tigervnc server for example? :P
[06:49] <SaEeDIRHA> fling, i killed that session and tried with x11vnc
[06:49] <SaEeDIRHA> but the session wont be created unless i add the user to auto login to gdm3 config file
[06:50] <SaEeDIRHA> then it creates the display session
[06:50] <fling> this is expected
[06:50] <fling> SaEeDIRHA: x2go would be much convenient for your needs
[06:50] <SaEeDIRHA> fling, i will have a look at it now
[06:50] <SaEeDIRHA> thankx :)
[06:59] <no_gravity> Hello! Why does the man page for iptables not mention "dport" even though that is one of its parameters?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> SaEeDIRHA: just be carefull vnc port doesnt show on the outside internet, or youl get hammered 24/7
[07:01] <SaEeDIRHA> lotuspsychje, its on my local network server and i am the only user
[07:01] <SaEeDIRHA> but thanks
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> SaEeDIRHA: allrighty
[08:23] <Aavar> Hi. I am having problems with graphical snap-apps. Can someone help me with this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/69hcPs6Cr8/
[08:33] <tm3> hello :)
[08:35] <tm3> Well, i wanted know how to configure the "flick with pen" kind of scroll on wacom. It's default in windows but i use linux ( ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS). It would be nice to know that because it is a mess using that scroll bar all the time. much easier to navigate it with pen itself.
[08:35] <tm3> please help
[08:44] <napcae>  TJ-: thanks again, waited for the resync to finish and now everything works!
[08:47] <TJ-> napcae: took some time then?!
[08:50] <clarkk> where does the Software Updater app get the description of each package that's shown in the list?
[08:50] <TJ-> clarkk: the app-data package(s)
[08:50] <clarkk> TJ-, How do I get that info from the command line?
[08:52] <TJ-> clarkk: I think it's actually appstream. When you do "apt update" you'll sometimes see references to DEP-11 ... which is https://wiki.debian.org/DEP-11
[08:53] <TJ-> clarkk: e.g. for 18.04 bionic: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/dep11/
[08:54] <clarkk> TJ-, but what about 3rd party packages/repos?
[08:54] <clarkk> TJ-, is the information in the .deb file?
[08:54] <clarkk> If so, how do I query the package?
[08:55] <gpio> apt show package
[08:55] <TJ-> clarkk: If you're on about snaps I believe they have their own appstream feed
[08:55] <TJ-> clarkk: anything in the archives is looked for in the (relative path) I showed above
[08:59] <clarkk> TJ-, I don't think I mean snaps.  Just simple deb packages from 3rd party repos
[09:00] <barg> where is the option to check SMART data of a hard drive?
[09:01] <eraserpencil1> hey when i do `lshw`, where does it get it's information from to print out? I'm trying to do  C++ programme that checks for information like serial number and battery etc. It seems like a bad solution to execute the command and do string comparisons to get what i want. Is there a library of file i can open to get the information I'd want?
[09:01] <TJ-> clarkk: the 3rd party would need to publish DEP-11 info as given in that spec then
[09:02] <TJ-> eraserpencil1: read the source-code of lshw
[09:02] <clarkk> gpio, TJ-   Here's what I'm trying to get to the bottom of....   The skype repo/package works correctly, showing "Skype" and its icon in the "details of updates" list in the "Update Software" app.  This is what is in my apt sources...  deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
[09:02] <clarkk> gpio, TJ-   However.... (one moment please)
[09:02] <TJ-> clarkk: dig into the repo then, it's just an HTTP(S) server
[09:03] <eraserpencil1> oooh good idea
[09:03] <hacker_07> Hey, everyone I'm getting error while adding ppa, Here is the link to the terminal output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zwFhn5hXYc/
[09:03] <clarkk> For nordvpn, it shows the description instead of the name ("Protect your privacy online and access media content with no regional restrictions. Strong encryption and no-log policy with 3000+ servers in 60+ countries") and no icon.
[09:03] <TJ-> clarkk: they don't have any DEP-11 there:  https://repo.skype.com/deb/dists/stable/main/
[09:04] <Habbie> eraserpencil1, or use 'lshw -xml' or 'lshw -json' so the parsing becomes easy
[09:04] <clarkk> gpio, TJ-   It's very confusing, and I'm trying to get them to fix it
[09:05] <clarkk> gpio, TJ-   This is what is in my apt sources....    deb https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable main
[09:05] <clarkk> TJ-, it's nordvpn that I'm trying to get to the bottom of, not skype.  Skype is just an example of one that works correctly
[09:06] <clarkk> gpio, TJ-, it's nordvpn that I'm trying to get to the bottom of, not skype.  Skype is just an example of one that works correctly
[09:08] <TJ-> clarkk: again, no DEP-11 info https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian/dists/stable/main/
[09:09] <clarkk> TJ-, skype works correctly, so then surely it's not related to DEP-11?
[09:09] <TJ-> clarkk: could the info you see be coming from the debian package's debian/control Description fields, e.g. see the "Description:" field listed for each package in the Packages file at https://repo.skype.com/deb/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[09:09] <hacker_07> Hey, everyone I'm getting error while adding ppa, Here is the link to the terminal output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zwFhn5hXYc/
[09:09] <eraserpencil1> Habbie: sounds good. the source code is abit beyond me
[09:10] <clarkk> TJ-, How can nordvpn fix this?  The name needs to go in that Software Updater app list, not the description
[09:11] <TJ-> clarkk: I don't know. What info does Skype show that makes you think they are using DEP-11 ? I see no DEP-11 Appinfo files in the Skype repo
[09:12] <clarkk> TJ-, I'd guess that it's nothing to do with DEP-11, because skype is showing correctly (just the word "Skype" with an icon next to it) in the Software Updater list
[09:12] <clarkk> *the skype icon
[09:13] <TJ-> clarkk: hmmm, that doesn't sound like correct to me! I thought "correct" meant the listing had additional description about it
[09:14] <TJ-> clarkk: what is your definition of being correct? having an icon?
[09:15] <clarkk> TJ-, ok, let me get you some screenshots
[09:15] <TJ-> clarkk: thanks
[09:21] <clarkk> gpio, TJ- See these screenshots.  Skype is at the top of the list, and the nordvpn package is one above the one highlighted.  Interestingly, using aptitude from the command line displays it all correctly (screenshots also included)  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/954piyyd6u7hrlf/AAAXBb6CkWMtIft0BRj1IxRAa?dl=0
[09:22] <clarkk> TJ-, Do you see what I mean?
[09:25] <TJ-> clarkk: aha, yes. With my 'programmers' hat on I'd guess that is caused by nordvpn not having some kind of "Name" field provided and therefore the "Description" field being used by Software Updater in its place
[09:31] <Sven_vB> does Ubuntu take care of security patches for mainboards, like the Intel Management Engine patches?
[09:33] <gpio> 'dpkg-deb -I nordvpn_3.2.0-2_amd64.deb' shows the right info
[09:34] <gpio> My guess would be the DEP-11 file Software Updater uses
[09:34] <TJ-> clarkk: do you have the Ubuntu "partner" component enabled? that has skype packages and info in it? Also, try "find /usr/share/app-install -name '*skype*' "  -- see if there is any skype files there... if so we can find out which package added them
[09:35] <TJ-> clarkk: and I checked the nordvpn control info and indeed they've got a badly formatted Description: field. there's supposed to be a short 1 line (less than 50 characters) summary followed by an empty line then the longer description
[09:39] <TJ-> clarkk: but in your list you have also a standard package that shows "Developer documentation for Mesa" ... I searched for that and found it for the package mesa-common-dev. If you do "apt-cache show mesa-common-dev" you'll notice the Description: summary is what you see in your screenshot and is followed by a longer dsecription which isn't in your screenshot (which is the expanded info that aptitude shows)
[09:39] <TJ-> clarkk: so the nordvpn issue is mostly badly formatted Description and no app-install data from appstream to add DEP-11 metadata and icons
[09:41] <TJ-> Sven_vB: no, those would require BIOS/firmware upgrades from the manufacturer
[09:45] <clarkk> TJ-, so you're saying that because ubuntu is shipped with skype in an optional repo, its icon and description come from there, but the nordvpn info comes from its deb file?
[09:46] <clarkk> TJ-, " I checked the nordvpn control info and indeed they've got a badly formatted Description: field"  where did you find the control info?
[09:48] <TJ-> clarkk: in the Packages file from the nordvpn repo
[09:48] <TJ-> clarkk: see https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/
[09:48] <TJ-> clarkk: it has: Description: Protect your privacy online and access media content with no regional restrictions. Strong encryption and no-log policy with 3000+ servers in 60+ countries.
[09:49] <clarkk> TJ-, where did you find the spec for that field?
[09:50] <TJ-> clarkk: I know it because I'm a developer. Here's the spefication: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#description
[09:52] <Sven_vB> TJ-, thanks!
[09:52] <clarkk> TJ-, Thank you for all this help.  I'll pass it on to nordvpn and hope they action it
[09:52] <TJ-> clarkk: I'm surprised they don't publish DEP-11 metadata and a nice icon, it'd make them stand out :)
[09:53] <stemid> hey is there no way to install a package like postgresql-10 without autostarting the service? is --no-triggers safe to run? because there might be other triggers like building manpages or whatever.
[09:54] <stemid> I think the package maintainers screwed up here because they put pgbench in postgresql-10 package on bionic. so to run that tool I need to install the service.
[09:54] <stemid> on an app server.
[09:57] <stemid> and even worse is this pg_wrapper thing. which means you find /usr/bin/pgbench in postgresql-client-common but it's useless without the real pgbench in postgresql-10.
[10:01] <TJ-> stemid: it used to be using invoke-rc.d but I'm not sure if that works with systemd, see https://serverfault.com/questions/567474/how-can-i-install-packages-without-starting-their-associated-services
[10:10] <stemid> it's just awfully hacky. in my case it was easier to install it and then disable it. at least disabling is easier now with systemd.
[10:30] <MMYStic> hi, I want disable ipv6 then I have added the following lines http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MggDWhq8yT/ in /etc/sysctl.conf. If I run it with 'sysctl -p' it works but after reboot looks again enabled.
[10:31] <MMYStic> sysctl looks running by systemd with systemd-sysctl service.. but it doesn't work
[10:31] <Habbie> i recall reading that systemd-sysctl does not read /etc/sysctl.conf
[10:32] <TJ-> MMYStic: check there aren't other options over-riding it: "grep -rn ipv6 /etc/sysctl.{conf,d/*}"
[10:32] <Habbie> ah, on my (debian) system, /etc/sysctl.d/sysctl.conf is a symlink to /etc/sysctl.conf to avoid that problem
[10:33] <Habbie> eh, /etc/sysctl/99-sysctl.conf actually
[10:33] <TJ-> MMYStic: if you read "man systemd-sysctl" you'll note it only reads the files in sysctl.d/ diretories (see "man 5 sysctl.d")
[10:37] <MRD365> Hi
[10:38] <MRD365> Hlo
[10:40] <MMYStic> TJ-: yeah but under sysctl.d there is link to /etc/sysctl.conf, the following is the output of grep -rn ipv6 /etc/sysctl.d/* https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RKNfD36xn2/
[10:41] <MMYStic> Habbie: exactly the same in ubuntu
[10:44] <TJ-> MMYStic: which network manager is being used? maybe it over-rides that later
[10:45] <TJ-> MMYStic: can you apply them manually with "sudo /lib/systemd/systemd-sysctl --prefix net.ipv6.conf" ?
[10:48] <MMYStic> TJ-: ok just a momento I have to reboot to check it
[10:48] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:13] <MMYStic> TJ-: well, if I run /lib/systemd/systemd-sysctl --prefix net.ipv6.conf it works. The following is my systemctl status systemd-sysctl https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jyw8GXRX82/
[11:14] <TJ-> MMYStic: so it is possible something else is resetting it after systemd-sysctl initially sets it disabled
[11:15] <MMYStic> ok I try to grep /etc/* for any ipv6 conf
[11:15] <TJ-> MMYStic: which network manager is in use? systemd-networkd (server) or NetworkManager (desktop) ? I'd suspect either of those may set it
[11:19] <napcae> TJ-: was done longer already but I just replied now to test some more stuff before confirming
[11:27] <MMYStic> TJ-: looks network manager but I am not sure because I have lubuntu, if I click on the icon to configure the network it open a term with a cui. On ps I have /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon
[11:28] <TJ-> MMYStic: yes, NetworkManager is the service (package: network-manager)
[11:29] <TJ-> MMYStic: I'm not sure if NM will re-enable IPv6 or not; I looked in my local logs where I *do* use IPv6 and see no obvious mention it is enabling it but then again, if it is already enabled, why would it redo that?
[11:29] <TJ-> MMYStic: you could check the log with "journalctl -b 0 -u NetworkManager" and search for "ipv6" "v6" and so on strings
[11:38] <MMYStic> TJ-: look this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vdx8qnwCQc/
[11:50] <MMYStic> TJ-: ok I have resolved, and yeah it was the NM. I have disabled ipv6 conf on NM.
[11:50] <MMYStic> thx
[11:58] <sacarde> hi
[11:59] <sacarde> which emulator can you suggest me to install a simple android APP ?
[12:02] <mouses> sacarde: I use https://www.android-x86.org/ with good results
[12:03] <sacarde> is it in repo?
[12:04] <mouses> sacarde: as far as I am aware, no.
[12:06] <Aavar> Hi. I am having problems with graphical snap-apps. Can someone help me with this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/69hcPs6Cr8/
[12:07] <pragmaticenigma> Aavar: How are you trying to launch the application, are you on the local machine?
[12:09] <Aavar> pragmaticenigma, hmm... I first tried without sudo and then with sudo from terminal. I also tried from the menu and it would not start. I am on the local machine, yes.
[12:09] <pragmaticenigma> Aavar: Are you currently in a graphical environment such as Gnome-Shell or KDE?
[12:09] <ioria> Aavar, and are you using wayland (or just logged out from it) ?
[12:09] <sacarde> mouses, but android-x86_64-8.1-r2.iso is a complete SO? not only an emulator
[12:10] <mouses> ssiegl: yes
[12:10] <mouses> sorry, sacarde ^^
[12:10] <sacarde> ah.. ok
[12:10] <Aavar> pragmaticenigma, ioria: I am running Unity in X11
[12:10] <pragmaticenigma> Aavar: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[12:10] <sacarde> I am looking for only an emulator ... like anbox
[12:11] <Aavar> pragmaticenigma, .
[12:11] <Aavar> pragmaticenigma, 19.04
[12:11] <mouses> sacarde: Oh, sorry - I kinda misunderstood
[12:11] <pragmaticenigma> sacarde: For software recommendations please use the #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel focuses on support issues for Official Ubuntu flavors and the software provided through its official software distribution platform.
[12:11]  * mouses finds more coffee
[12:12] <sacarde> ok ok
[12:12] <pragmaticenigma> Aavar: Unity is not supported in 19.04... try launching the application from Gnome-Shell or another support Desktop Environmnet
[12:13] <intelo> I created usb startup. I works on other computers but on a specific dell xps 15, it says Failed to open \EFI\Boot\mnx64.efi. failed to load image. Not found.  Failed to start MokManager: Not Found. Somehting has gone seriously wrong. Import+mok_state*( failed." I re created the startup and same thing. What can I do now?
[12:14] <pragmaticenigma> intelo: Did you create the USB drive with UEFI support?
[12:15] <Aavar> pragmaticenigma, OK, I will try this later. I am running remote (teamviewer) so I dont want to risk not being able to reconnect :)
[12:15] <intelo> pragmaticenigma how to do that? i used kubuntu startup disk creater
[12:16] <Aavar> pragmaticenigma, Do you believe this is the cause, or is it just something to check along the way? I dont get why it should not be working as it is the latest release and unity is in the repo and upgraded.
[12:17] <pragmaticenigma> Aavar: Unity as a desktop is no longer provided by Ubuntu as of 17.xx series. Depending on how you installed your desktop, there may be libraries that were not included during installation or are missing.
[12:17] <pragmaticenigma> !uefi | intelo
[12:18] <ioria> Aavar, might sounds silly, but try to   'export DISPLAY=:0'
[12:18] <kek_> hi anyone using acronis backup? It looks like there is no gui, is that possible?
[12:19] <TJ-> intelo: mmx64.efi is part of the 'shim' package to handle Secure Boot. If that is missing thne it is possible the ISO doesn't have EFI support. What is the .iso file you created the USB image from?
[12:23] <Aavar> pragmaticenigma, I am not being difficult here, but I have to ask :) It is included in the repo. so it is provided by ubuntu?
[12:23] <pragmaticenigma> kek_: This channel only support official Ubuntu desktop flavors and software provided through its official software distribution channels. For all other software recommendations and help, please use #ubuntu-offtopic. Thanks
[12:23] <kek_> pragmaticenigma, thanks
[12:24] <pragmaticenigma> !info unity
[12:24] <pragmaticenigma> Aavar: It is in the Universe repo, which means it is community maintained and not closely monitored by Canonical
[12:24] <Aavar> ioria, thanks, but that gave the same result :)
[12:24] <Aavar> pragmaticenigma, aha, I understand :)
[12:25] <ioria> Aavar, does the other snaps have the same problem ?
[12:26] <Aavar> ioria, I am not sure. LEt me check ioria.
[12:26] <Aavar> ioria, yes.
[12:28] <TJ-> Aavar: trace it: "strace -o /tmp/snapstore.strace -f -e trace=file snap-store" then "pastebinit /tmp/snapstore.strace"
[12:28] <ioria> Aavar, xhost +local:   and launch again
[12:30] <Aavar> ioria, no change :(
[12:30] <ioria> Aavar, see what TJ-  suggested
[12:31] <Aavar> TJ-, "need to run as root or suid"
[12:32] <ioria> maybe refresh the snap core ...
[12:32] <Aavar> TJ-, with sudo: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pC3WVh2Fxw/
[12:32] <TJ-> Aavar: huh!? that's not normal
[12:33] <intelo> pragmaticenigma I cannot change the file names in /boot/efi as its  a usb disk. read only
[12:33] <TJ-> Aavar: do the non-sudo one again and then "pastebinit /tmp/snapstore.strace"
[12:33] <TJ-> Aavar: strace should work unless you're in some kind of restricted environment
[12:35] <ioria> TJ-, he's on teamviewer
[12:35] <Aavar> I thing I have to test this later when I am home.
[12:38] <TJ-> ioria: right but I would not imagine it is going to prevent strace running
[12:39] <ioria> yep
[12:40] <TJ-> ioria: do we have any technical info on how, exactly, TV handles things? presumably it hooks in to before the greeter so it can show the log-in greeter dialogs?
[12:40] <ioria> TJ-, nope
[12:41] <Aavar> TJ-, ioria I am now running xubuntu-session. same result running snap-store. I am trying the strace thing next
[12:41] <Aavar> (still via tv)
[12:42] <ioria> Aavar, can you run without problems gparted or any other root gui applications ?
[12:42] <TJ-> I cannot find the string "need to run as root or suid" in /usr/bin/strace or see a shared-object it links in that might report that
[12:43] <Aavar> TJ-, ioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WSM2BFdwPf/
[12:43] <Aavar> same result i'm afraid.
[12:43] <Aavar> Is it an idea to remove all snaps and the framework all togheter and start from scratch (if that is posible)?
[12:44] <TJ-> Aavar: that doesn't look like what I asked for.. is there no /tmp/snapstore.strace file?
[12:46] <Aavar> TJ-, my bad. There is yes. let me try adain.
[12:46] <Aavar> again
[12:46] <Aavar> TJ-, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/msKJFkXsRf/
[12:48] <Aavar> ioria, if they are not snaps. Yes
[12:49] <ioria> Aavar, snap issue then
[12:49] <Aavar> ioria, I think so.
[12:49] <bviktor> since the upgrade from 4.18 to 5.0 on ubuntu 18.04, some of my dkms drivers (intel drivers, in particular), throw "exec format error", any ideas how to fix this?
[12:50] <bviktor> an example dkms.conf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Cr2yGHDkGq/
[12:50] <Aavar> and btw, ioria TJ-: I am pretty sure snaps with gui worked earlier this week, but I am not sure what I have done to break this.
[12:51] <Aavar> (last wek obvoiusly)
[12:51] <Aavar> week
[12:54] <Gotango> After new update 18.04 boot is stuck on "Started GNOME display manager" . I tried switching to LightDm but that doesn't work either, just blank screen with blinking cursor.
[12:54] <Gotango> https://www.picpasteplus.com/view.php?i=o4a4q4qjapx4i4f4hjo424xp.jpg
[12:55] <ioria> Aavar, i'd try to roll back the version if already updated (or install a beta or edge version) ; awk, sy
[12:56] <TJ-> Aavar: the command that is failing appears to be execve("/snap/core/7396/usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine", ["/snap/core/7396/usr/lib/snapd/sn"..., "--base", "core18", "snap.snap-store.snap-store", "/usr/lib/snapd/snap-exec", "snap-store"], 0xc42014d8c0 /* 83 vars */ <unfinished ...
[12:57] <TJ-> Aavar: and that is the process that applies confinement (security) to the snap application itself, and that is failing. Shortly after that message you can see the system is checking if suid debugging is enabled (presumably to optionally tell you more about why it failed).
[12:57] <TJ-> Aavar: so you might gain more info by finding out what needs adding to /etc/suid-debug. The message:  access("/etc/suid-debug", F_OK)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[12:59] <TJ-> Aavar: aha, seems you just need to create that file, see https://renenyffenegger.ch/notes/Linux/fhs/etc/suid-debug
[12:59] <tomreyn> Gotango: this link says "image does not exist" for me
[12:59] <tomreyn> Gotango: which graphics card do you have there?  lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:00] <TJ-> Aavar: so try "sudo touch /etc/suid-debug" and the re-run the strace command and then pastebin any output you see in the terminal and then "pastebinit /tmp/snapstore.strace" again
[13:05] <Gotango> @tomreyn https://termbin.com/8n7h
[13:05] <bviktor> so apparently dkms is a completely useless tool, as it only works if you manually remove the module from dkms, then re-add it, which isn't really any different from just manually recompiling the module on your own, gg
[13:07] <TJ-> bviktor: did the kernel upgrades not trigger DKMS builds, or did those builds fail?
[13:07] <bviktor> neither
[13:07] <bviktor> it's "built"
[13:07] <bviktor> it just won't load
[13:07] <bviktor> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'igb': Exec format error
[13:08] <Aavar> TJ-, I am not following, but I have touched the file and rerun the strace-command: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4vc3kJhN2b/
[13:08] <Gotango> @tomreyn https://paste.pics/93c77d961105a46be7d2a52e653f453d
[13:08] <TJ-> Aavar: did you see any 'debug' messages in the terminal as well?
[13:09] <TJ-> bviktor: was/is "modinfo igb" able to report it or also report problems?
[13:09] <bviktor> modinfo works fine.
[13:09] <tomreyn> Gotango: So Intel HD Graphics 5500 [8086:1616] (rev 09). you can check in /var/log/apt/history.log which packages were upgraded recently. There are a couple reports about issues with the !HWE kernel in Ubuntu 18.04.2 which recently got upgraded to Linux 5.0 (was 4.18). you should post your full system log and have someone review it for error messages:   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:09] <Aavar> TJ-, "need to run as root or suid" i the terminal when I ran the strace-command
[13:09] <bviktor> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/33XGBKfBF3/
[13:10] <bviktor> vermagic:       4.18.0-25-generic SMP mod_unload
[13:10] <bviktor> wonderful, isn't it
[13:10] <TJ-> Aavar: so nothing more despite our adding /etc/suid-debug? In which case I'm going to guess the debug info may be in the kernel log. Can you "pastebinit <( journalctl -b 0 -n 250 )"
[13:10] <bviktor> but then again, why is there an igb.ko with a newer timestamp in /var/lib/dkms/igb/<IP_ADDRESS>/5.0.0-23-generic/x86_64/module
[13:11] <tomreyn> Gotango: alternatively, but then only based on my rough guess that it could be related to the kernel update, you could install a bios upgrade or downgrade to the general availability kernel (4.15) which still gets security updates, too:  sudo apt install --purge linux-generic linux-generic-hwe-18.04- linux-generic-hwe-18.04-edge- xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04-
[13:11] <bviktor> is dkms somehow using the running kernel to build? but then why is the path showing the newer version? i just don't get it
[13:11] <tomreyn> Gotango: i cuold review your journal but not right now, need to leave for ~ 1 hour now.
[13:12] <Aavar> TJ-, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DWbGZfXPWg/
[13:12] <TJ-> bviktor: earlier I wwas going to point out that the dkms.conf looks wrong, specifically the line "BUILT_MODULE_LOCATION=src//" ... I presume the module built whilst 4.18.0-25-generic was in use?
[13:13] <Aavar> TJ-, and I got this in terminal: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7yx4F9jbBS/
[13:13] <bviktor> why is that wrong?
[13:13] <bviktor> yup, 4.18 was running
[13:13] <Gotango> @tomreyn ok thanks
[13:13] <TJ-> Aavar: I think I know what you've done! I suspect you've changed ownership of files in your user's $HOME
[13:14] <TJ-> Aavar: check that with "sudo find $HOME -not -user $USER -ls"
[13:16] <TJ-> bviktor: vermagic should match the kernel version it is intended for
[13:16] <bviktor> that i already know.
[13:16] <bviktor> how does that make BUILT_MODULE_LOCATION wrong
[13:17] <MacroMan> I'm trying to pin phpunit so I can get the version from Disco (I'm on Bionic). apt-cache shows it pinned, but it's not upgrading
[13:17] <TJ-> bviktor: it doesn't but the "src//" is an obvious typo... one such always makes me suspect others. Where's the repo that you got igb from? I'll build it here
[13:18] <bviktor> it's not a typo, it's the result of some ansible parameterization.
[13:18] <bviktor> what makes you think 4.18 tolerated src// but 5.0 suddenly won't ?
[13:18] <bviktor> if the path was incorrect the build would fail in the first place
[13:18] <Aavar> TJ-, there is quite a lot of files owned by root. whould I chown them?
[13:18] <Aavar> should
[13:18] <bviktor> https://sourceforge.net/projects/e1000/files/igb%20stable/<IP_ADDRESS>/
[13:19] <SkyWay> i have /mnt/seagate mountpoint for an external hdd, but transmission (debian-transmission) cannot read or write onto that .. how can i change that? what rights i need to set?
[13:19] <TJ-> Aavar: yes, do this: "sudo find $HOME -not -user $USER -exec chown $USER:$USER {} \; "
[13:19] <bviktor> i mean, using src// instead of src/ shouldn't make dkms use a random previous kernel version for the build, correct?
[13:19] <pragmaticenigma> intelo: If you followed the imaging instructions to making the USB drive, you can modify it. It is very, very rare to have a read only USB drive.
[13:19] <TJ-> Aavar: I suspect then you'll be OK
[13:20] <TJ-> bviktor: no it won't my point is such an obvious typo often points to sloppiness elsewhere
[13:20] <MacroMan> apt-cache policy output: https://termbin.com/y1ec
[13:20] <bviktor> i already showed my dkms.conf
[13:20] <bviktor> i think the sloppiness is on dkms' part btw
[13:21] <bviktor> i mean all i did was apt dist-upgrade
[13:21] <bviktor> and the module's been working fine before
[13:21] <bviktor> and dkms has created the path for the new kernel version, the newer igb.ko is there.
[13:21] <intelo> TJ yes. its 64 bit kubuntu 18
[13:21] <bviktor> there are no hardcoded versions in dkms.conf either
[13:22] <Aavar> TJ-, still the same. I am leaving work now, but I think I will resume later. THank you for your helt so far :)
[13:24] <MacroMan> Output from `apt list --upgradeable -a`: https://termbin.com/z5c5 shows that phpunit can be upgraded, but `apt dist-upgrade` doesn't upgrade it
[13:25] <MacroMan> I've followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[13:25] <bviktor> TJ-, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zrzjBnYD2D/
[13:26] <MacroMan> How can I fix this?
[13:26] <bviktor> i can't see any other explanation than dkms being completely stupid
[13:26] <bviktor> "DKMS make.log for igb-<IP_ADDRESS> for kernel 5.0.0-23-generic (x86_64)" ... "vermagic:       4.18.0-25-generic SMP mod_unload"
[13:27] <cluelessperson> can ubuntu please stop trying to use Snap?
[13:30] <bviktor> make[1]: Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-4.18.0-25-generic'
[13:30] <bviktor> why, just why
[13:32] <bviktor> is $kernelver the offending line? is that a variable for the _current_ kernel? but then 1) why is it documented like that in the help pages 2)  what should be used instead? kernel_source_dir?
[13:34] <bviktor> why would you EVER use the current, running kernel for building instead of the target kernel? i just don't understand the use for such a variable...
[13:45] <MrSirPotato> I want to install firefox developer edition from ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora but the normal firefox has the same package name as well so it installs the normal firefox
[13:45] <cluelessperson> MrSirPotato  google the method to specify to use a specific repo.
[13:46] <pragmaticenigma> MrSirPotato: For software provided by PPAs you will have to refer to the developer for help. Also, have you looked over the PPA to see if there are instructions on how to use it?
[13:48] <bviktor> turns out, $kernel_source_dir is also the running kernel. that's just hilarious
[13:48] <bviktor> now on 5.0, if i build the module for 4.18, it uses the 5.0 headers
[13:48] <pragmaticenigma> bviktor: Please refrain from idle chat here
[13:48] <bviktor> idle? i'm trying to solve the problem
[13:49] <bviktor> but you're right, you're useless, so i'll just figure it out on my own and keep the info to myself too, why would anyone want to know how to solve dkms crap
[13:49] <bviktor> bb
[14:04] <TJ-> bviktor: oh gone... just as I'd pinned it down!
[14:09] <intelo> TJ- pragmaticenigma i installed it with legacy boot. now I cannot boot from ssd. it says no bootable device. it looks like I cannot use the live usb option either. it gets stuck on 'try it' and proceeds with 'install it'
[14:14] <Katronix> Hi all, I just got done installing Win10 via Qemu, now trying to make it run faster. All of the pages I'm finding online are 5+ years old. Can anyone point me to something more up to date?
[14:22] <Katronix> Or is there a better channel to ask Qemu questions in?
[14:23] <coz_> Katronix,  did you try #qemu
[14:23] <Katronix> coz_, I'm in there too but no one's talking :)
[14:24] <coz_> yeah, it can take a while
[14:24] <coz_> Katronix, have patience
[14:32] <Katronix> I did find http://bart.vanhauwaert.org/hints/installing-win10-on-KVM.html its talking about using Fedora Core however, I suppose though it would be basically the same?
[14:38] <Habbie> Katronix, you're running windows in qemu now, without kvm?
[14:38] <Katronix> no its just not as fast as I'd like it to be
[14:39] <tomreyn> Katronix: you may want to /join #ubuntu-server
[14:40] <MrSirPotato> I can't find the .icons folder
[14:40] <Katronix> okay
[14:40] <MrSirPotato> help
[14:48] <padarc> uhm, is it normal that i get alot less fps on games (doesnt matter if native or via wine/proton) in a wayland gnome session? ... we're talking here about ~50fps (wayland) vs ~90fps+ (xorg) on rocket league for example. On cs:go frames drop to 50fps sometimes on wayland vs 100fps+ all the time on xorg.
[14:48] <padarc> (ubuntu 19.04, amd free graphic drivers, rx570)
[14:53] <tomreyn> padarc: wayland performance is still an issue, hasn't been the primary focus lately since 20.04 LTS won't default to wayland, yet.
[14:54] <tomreyn> chances are it'll become a focus sooner or later after 20.04 though
[15:06] <padarc> tomreyn, well, that sucks for me as the irrational "it's newer, lets use it" guy. I'll just have to wait then :)
[15:13] <bluezone> I need to run a python script as a service on an ubuntu machine. It needs to startup automatically on system start, restart on crashes, gracefully shutdown etc... Anyone know how to do this or can point me in the right direction?
[15:15] <ikanobori> Google
[15:15] <ikanobori> Sorry that came off rude.
[15:15] <ikanobori> I accidentally hit enter.
[15:15] <aric49> bluezone, you could write a systemd unit for it: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/understanding-systemd-units-and-unit-files
[15:15] <ikanobori> You can Google for 'how to write a systemd unit file' which is the system Ubuntu uses to start/stop services like these.
[15:16] <bluezone> ok thanks
[15:39] <bluezone> aric49:  ikanobori : do you know what the purpose of<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is? https://tecadmin.net/setup-autorun-python-script-using-systemd/
[15:39] <bluezone> Conflicts means the service would run only after getty is shut down
[15:39] <ikanobori> Yes. It's things that can't run at the same time.
[15:39] <bluezone> but why should getty be shutdown
[15:39] <ikanobori> Do you have any services that can't run at the same time as yours?
[15:40] <bluezone> Not that I know of
[15:40] <ikanobori> Then you shouldn't use it :)
[15:40] <bluezone> ok :)
[15:41] <ikanobori> From the url it seems they want to autorun some Python and not have a login prompt be shown for a kiosk or such.
[15:41] <ikanobori> Which is a reason to want to shutddown getty.
[15:50] <sybatwo> OK so is there a command to see a bit more what apt-get is doing "under the hood" ?
[15:50] <Gotango> Hi. I updated Ubuntu 18.04 as always. But on reboot it's stuck on "Starting GNOME display manager". I tried switching to lightDm from Tty, but booting that gives blank screen with flashing cursor.
[15:50] <Gotango> Can it be the Graphics card? Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 [8086:1616] (rev 09)
[15:50] <Gotango> Here is the system log https://termbin.com/5j602
[15:50] <Gotango> Maybe new Ubuntu updates Linux 5  isn't  compatible with the laptop. I don't know what's wrong
[15:52] <sybatwo> I'm running a command/program to remaster a ubuntu distro. But i'm suspecting it may have stalled. And the last thing it said was that it's doing apt-get on a ubiquity thing. I would like to look at something, sort of when doing ps -aux, to see if something is actuyally happening.
[16:08] <pennTeller> Hi guys even though dconf editor shows trackpad disabled while typing, this is not working as I can still move the mouse addcidentally while typing on the laptop keyboard.
[16:08] <pennTeller> Any suggestions?
[16:10] <ioria> Gotango, and have you tried a previous kernel ?
[16:12] <Some_Person> One of my coworkers is having a major problem booting: https://i.imgur.com/rZogQkF.jpg
[16:13] <tomreyn> Gotango: quoting your log: "mtrr_cleanup: can not find optimal value [..] please specify mtrr_gran_size/mtrr_chunk_size"
[16:13] <tomreyn> Gotango: you want to look for a bios upgrade for this HP 250 G4 Notebook PC/80C1, BIOS F.1E 12/25/2015
[16:14] <Some_Person> It eventually drops to an initramfs shell
[16:14] <tomreyn> Gotango: alternatively, you could try working around this bios bug using http://my-fuzzy-logic.de/blog/index.php?/archives/41-Solving-linux-MTRR-problems.html
[16:15] <Gotango> @ioria I'm not so deep into the Linux system workings. So not sure how to do that. In Grub menu it shows Linux 5.0.0-23-generic , and Linux 4.18.0-25-generic . Trying 4.18 gives the same problems
[16:15] <Some_Person> https://i.imgur.com/lMejSb3.jpg
[16:15] <ioria> Gotango, then see what tomreyn suggested
[16:15] <TJ-> Some_Person: is it using full disk encryption?
[16:16] <Some_Person> TJ-: Yes, it would be
[16:16] <Gotango> @tomreyn I will try that figure things out . Thanks
[16:16] <TJ-> Some_Person: then I'm going to guess the problem is the crypttab values aren't there. You're in front of the initramfs shell keyboard now?
[16:17] <Some_Person> Yeah, the machine is on there
[16:17] <TJ-> Some_Person: do "cat /conf/conf.d/cryptroot"
[16:17] <tomreyn> Gotango: there are also different types of ACPI errors, also do a bios upgrade there, or work around it using https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[16:17] <TJ-> Some_Person: that should contain details of the encrypted root fs LUKS device
[16:17] <TJ-> Some_Person: if that is missing then we have the problem
[16:18] <Some_Person> TJ-: https://i.imgur.com/GgDPodF.jpg
[16:19] <Gotango> @tomreyn thanks. If nothing works I guess I will have to lock a version of Ubuntu then
[16:19] <TJ-> Some_Person: well, that's good news! Do you/your colleague, know the passphrase?
[16:20] <tomreyn> Gotango: how do you mean "lock a version of ubuntu"?
[16:20] <Some_Person> TJ-: My coworker presumably does
[16:20] <Some_Person> Obviously I don't
[16:20] <Gotango> @tomreyn an older version that doesn't give such issues
[16:21] <TJ-> Some_Person: let's check that device exists, do: "blkid" and show us the photo
[16:21] <Some_Person> TJ-: No output
[16:22] <tomreyn> Gotango: personally i'd certainly prefer the bios update as well as the other alterantives i just listed, but you can still do this, too <tomreyn> Gotango: alternatively, but then only based on my rough guess that it could be related to the kernel update, you could install a bios upgrade or downgrade to the general availability kernel (4.15) which still gets security updates, too:  sudo apt install --purge linux-generic linux-generic-hwe-18.04-
[16:22] <tomreyn> linux-generic-hwe-18.04-edge- xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04-
[16:22] <TJ-> Some_Person: arghhh, that isn't good!
[16:22] <TJ-> Some_Person: you should have seen info about all the storage devices and their partitions
[16:23] <Gotango> @tomreyn I will try that first , thanks
[16:23] <Some_Person> TJ-: I figure the device must be working to some extent though for it to have even made it this far. Can't be like the SSD is completely dead
[16:23] <TJ-> Some_Person: try this: "ls -l /sys/block/nvme*"
[16:23] <Some_Person> TJ-: No such file or directory
[16:24] <TJ-> Some_Person; getting worse!
[16:24] <TJ-> Some_Person: at this stage I think we need to grep the kernel log for device errors, but first let me know the exact kernel command line with "cat /proc/cmdline"
[16:25] <TJ-> Some_Person: oh and also, in case the device has been given a different name, try "ls /sys/block/" and tell me if you see anything other than loop* and nbd* device names (e.g. sda, sr0)
[16:25] <tomreyn> Gotango: i don't see gdm or X starting up in your log, so the actual error you encounter doesn'T seem to be present on the log you posted (or maybe it was cut off - install the pastebinit package and run   journalctl -b | pastebinit   to post longer logs)
[16:26] <Some_Person> TJ-: http://i.imgur.com/iO3yBYg.jpg
[16:27] <Some_Person> TJ-: Just loop devices
[16:27] <TJ-> Some_Person: we'll check kernel log but as you can see looking like the nvme has gone AWOL
[16:27] <TJ-> Some_Person: try "dmesg | grep nvme"
[16:29] <tomreyn> Gotango: 'BIOS' update https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-250-g4-notebook-pc/7609933/swItemId/ob-232451-1 - sadly windows only.
[16:29] <TJ-> Some_Person: one other thing, lets check the NVME modules are loaded: "ls -d /sys/module/nvme*"
[16:30] <Gotango> @tomreyn apt-get is failing
[16:31] <Some_Person> TJ-: We just booted it to a live Ubuntu just to see if anything behaves differently there -- seems to be no sign of the drive there either, which seems weird
[16:31] <TJ-> Some_Person: go into firmware/BIOS setup, maybe there's something there causing this?
[16:31] <Gotango> @tomreyn this is stressing me out too much . Have to recover my data and reinstall Ubuntu or another OS
[16:32] <TJ-> Some_Person: if this is a laptop one thing I've personally experienced is after some knocks the device actually came out its slot sufficiently to stop being seen and all it took was a screwdriver, 2 screws, and a push, to fix :)
[16:32] <Some_Person> TJ-: The drive shows up in the setup, and it clearly attempts to boot to it
[16:32] <TJ-> Some_Person: so firmware sees it in setup but blocks it from the OS? Presumably its UEFI?
[16:33] <Some_Person> It is UEFI
[16:33] <TJ-> Some_Person: so if GRUB is on the NVME we know firmware > GRUB (which both use firmware services to read from the device) can read it but once the OS loads and tries to manage the device directly it all goes wrong
[16:34] <Some_Person> I feel like GRUB has to be on it
[16:34] <Some_Person> There's no other drive in the machine
[16:34] <TJ-> Some_Person: so either the kernel's NVME modules aren't being loaded or they are but the drive isn't 'there' or there's some I/O error clue in dmesg
[16:35] <TJ-> Some_Person: the fact the the LiveISO also doesn't see it sounds suspicious since the correct modules are in that
[16:35] <Some_Person> TJ-: Indeed... this is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen
[16:35] <Some_Person> Anything I should grep for in dmesg?
[16:36] <TJ-> Some_Person: well "nvme" is the obvious one :)
[16:36] <Some_Person> No results for that
[16:37] <TJ-> Some_Person: could you attach a USB data device so we could capture the dmesg onto it and pastebinit, I think I need to read it to be of any more help
[16:37] <tomreyn> Gotango: if you'd like to check what's wrong with apt, post   sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[16:44] <Gotango> @tomreyn I get error. nc: getaddrinfo for host "termbin.com" port 9999: Name or service not known
[16:45] <Some_Person> TJ-: https://pastebin.com/Dt6Cbnj3
[16:47] <Intelo> After installing kubuntu with existing windows but I full encrypted the disk, it says no disk available. I installed without encrypted few times but same issue. Here are few screenshots. Kubuntu 18, dell xps 15 https://imge.to/i/zsp4G    https://imge.to/i/zsBrZ
[16:47] <tomreyn> Gotango: that's a resolver issue, ie. your internet connection lost some packets (bad connection, can be temporary) or the resolver ("DNS server") you use is unreliable.
[16:48] <tomreyn> Gotango: when     systemd-resolve termbin.com     returns <IP_ADDRESS> then you can try these commands again
[16:49] <TJ-> Some_Person: gotchya! line 791 "[    8.427625] ahci 0000:00:17.0: Switch your BIOS from RAID to AHCI mode to use them."
[16:49] <TJ-> Some_Person: so, firmware setup options, change SATA mode to AHCI
[16:51] <tomreyn> Intelo: looks like bios bugs, is newer firmware available?
[16:51] <woenx> Hey. Can I ask a wine-related question in this channel?
[16:51] <Intelo> tomreyn,  I just bought the system. How do I know its the latest firmware and how do I upgrade it?
[16:51] <Gotango> @tomreyn resolve call fails . Tried 3 different connections . Maybe something else is broken now
[16:52] <Some_Person> TJ-: Yep, I just saw that myself. Sure enough, it worked. Thank you!
[16:52] <TJ-> Some_Person: did someone change that recently to break it?
[16:53] <Some_Person> TJ-: I have no idea
[16:53] <TJ-> Some_Person: we'd have caught that earlier in the initramfs if we'd done a case-insensitive grep for nvme
[16:53] <TJ-> Some_Person: taught me to use "grep -i" for such things
[16:54] <TJ-> Some_Person: "Found 1 remapped NVMe devices" is the clue
[16:54] <Gotango> @tomreyn how can I recover my data so I can reinstall Ubuntu ?
[16:55] <Intelo> tomreyn, TJ- ?
[16:55] <Some_Person> TJ-: Yeah, I found it the same way
[16:56] <Gotango> @tomreyn you said Kernel 4.15 is good , so I want to use that instead
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> !wine | woenx
[16:56] <tomreyn> Gotango: just dns issues should not require you to reinstall. but you can copy your /home directory to an external storage (should be the same file system, probably ext4) and restore it later
[16:56] <woenx> I think it's a winetricks related question
[16:56] <woenx> nevermind
[16:57] <tomreyn> !backup | Gotango: these are generic hints on how to backup
[16:57] <Some_Person> TJ-: Thanks again for all your help
[16:57] <woenx> Well, I'll ask anyway in case someone had the same problem: I tried installing Adobe Acrobat Reader DC using wine (i need to fill out some forms, and evince does not work properly)
[16:57] <tomreyn> Intelo: this should tell you the exact model name and BIOS version:   journalctl -b | grep 'DMI:'
[16:58] <woenx> Acrobat reader installs succesfully, but buttons have no text, they are blank.
[16:58] <tomreyn> Intelo: then you check on the computer support section of the website of the vendor for bios updates for this very model.
[16:58] <Intelo> tomreyn,  I do not have an OS on that system. Thats the problem. I cannot run live usb as well
[16:59] <Gotango> @tomreyn Recovery seems better option now . Thank you for the help
[16:59] <Intelo> tomreyn,  if I do not have windows or linux, how can I install latest bios?
[16:59] <sybariten> hey!
[16:59] <sybariten> There is this distro-remaster tool called pinguy-builder, its a fork of something called remastersys i think
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> welcome sybariten
[17:00] <sybariten> Do you think it should be theoretically possible to remaster a live OS, from the live OS i am running, so to speak? Or would this thing necessarlily be run from an actual installed system?
[17:00] <tomreyn> Intelo: the current firmware version is also listed during early boot (unless full screen logo is enabled, which can be disabled in bios setup or by hardware specific keys), as well as in the bios setup. please consult the manual of the computer you acquired, this is not an #ubuntu but a ##hardware topic.
[17:01] <becool> does nginx with php 7.3 work on ubuntu 18?
[17:01] <sybariten> I get the feeling it's supposed to be possible but i got a nasty error now that i tried it. The syntax and everything is very simple. I have the error message noted in a web page that apparently i couldnt reach right now at the moment, but after a reboot...
[17:01] <sybariten> just curious if im trying to do something tyhats essentially not possible
[17:02] <tomreyn> Intelo: you were able to boot into the kubuntu installer, though, since you say you installed kubuntu, right? so you actually can boot into kubuntu, on the usb
[17:02] <TJ-> sybariten: how do you mean "remaster" - an ISO9660 image is read-only so you would be creating a new image on some storage device
[17:02] <tomreyn> !server | becool
[17:03] <sybariten> TJ-: yes, i'm writing to the internal HD of the machine i am using... (although booting up / running the ubuntu OS from a usb memory)
[17:04] <tomreyn> Gotango: you're welcome, good luck.
[17:04] <TJ-> sybariten: there's no reason I can think of you cannot use the /cdrom/ device as the source for your re-mastered image
[17:05] <sybariten> TJ-: yeah well its not an actual cdrom but maybe thats not what you meant, maybe thats whats its called in this case
[17:05] <TJ-> sybariten: I know but the ISO9660 image getes mounted at /cdrom/
[17:05] <sybariten> aha ok
[17:05] <Intelo> tomreyn,  correct. I can boot into kubuntu but only for install option. The try option does not works
[17:05] <Intelo> kubuntu, or ubuntu. it dont work
[17:06] <stewie925> I am looking to install Ubuntu 18.04 for my local VM - can I just use the non-live-server version?
[17:06] <tomreyn> woenx: is there a reason you prefer running acrobat reader through wine over running it natively?
[17:06] <TJ-> sybariten: the root-fs you're working in (in memory) is from the /cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs file (or a very similar path)
[17:06] <sybariten> i see
[17:06] <tomreyn> Intelo: when you're at the install option, you can switch to a tty and should have a working terminal, though
[17:07] <tomreyn> !tty | Intelo
[17:08] <TJ-> stewie925: yes
[17:09] <tomreyn> stewie925: any ubuntu variant should work, given that you can access the VGA console. if there are graphical issues, prefer either the (default "live") server or alternative server or mini.iso installer.
[17:10] <Intelo> tomreyn, how to upgrade firmware then?
[17:10] <tomreyn> Intelo: which exact model do you have there?
[17:10] <tomreyn> it'll say on the bottom label
[17:11] <stewie925> TJ-: tomreyn: thanks guys.
[17:12] <Intelo> tomreyn,  boot usb > install kubuntu > tty > upgrade firmware.
[17:12] <Intelo> tomreyn,  or any other way to upgrade firmware?
[17:13] <tomreyn> woenx: opps, looks like adobe reader for linux no longer exists, i wasn't aware.
[17:14] <tomreyn> Intelo: please contact your hardware vendor for support with upgrading the firmware.
[17:15] <Intelo> tomreyn,  my vendor already gives .exe file. How i use it in ubuntu is the question
[17:15] <tomreyn> Intelo: please contact your hardware vendor for support with upgrading the firmware.
[17:16] <tomreyn> without knowing your exact model that's the only (generic) answer i can provide
[17:16] <Intelo> oh
[17:16] <Intelo> wil tel you in an hour
[17:18] <tomreyn> Intelo: also the kubuntu iso you downloaded or wrote to the installer media seems to be incomplete / corrupt.
[17:19] <tomreyn> !checksum | Intelo
[17:30] <marz_d`ghostman> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04, and this mirror download.nus.edu.sg seems to be taking a long time when I'm running sudo apt-get update. How do I fix this?
[17:32] <tomreyn> marz_d`ghostman: if the issue is with the mirror server you could pick a different mirror server from settings -> software properties
[17:33] <tomreyn> you can also run   software-properties-gtk   from a terminal
[17:39] <marz_d`ghostman> tomreyn thanks
[17:39] <syba_two> hello!
[17:40] <syba_two> I'm struggling with some repository issues here. I'm not the best with package technology. But basicly i (think i) am trying to use a repo for an older tool thats not really made for 18.04 . But should work. anyhow, my gpg signing is not working...
[17:41] <syba_two> basicly i'm trying to do this now     sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 382003C2C8B7B4AB813E915B14E4942973C62A1B      and i get connection timed out
[17:41] <syba_two> is there any chance this is a firewall issue and can i in that case force this to port 80 ?
[17:44] <sarnold> syba_two: due to the abuse of the keyservers, it's probably better to get that key via another mechanism
[17:44] <syba_two> aha.... hmmm some sort of wget thing? I'm a bit at loss here
[17:44] <syba_two> Or whatever the expression is
[17:46] <ioria> syba_two, if it's a ppa (ppa:nemh/systemback ?), you can try to remove it , reinstall and add again the key
[17:46] <sarnold> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nemh/systemback .. shouldn't that have just done the trick? hmm
[17:47] <syba_two> ioria :  i actually dont know what removing a ppa means ....  and what should i reinstall?
[17:47] <sarnold> aha! here we are, you can grab the key from https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x382003c2c8b7b4ab813e915b14e4942973c62a1b
[17:47] <tomreyn> a 1024bit RSA key.
[17:48] <syba_two> sarnold: ah ok yeah that works, i see it. I want to wget this page or something, and then use another key tool ?
[17:49] <tomreyn> if you trust this url to present the correct key: curl 'https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x382003c2c8b7b4ab813e915b14e4942973c62a1b' | sudo apt-key add -
[17:50] <tomreyn> alternatively (if you don't have curl): wget -qO- 'https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x382003c2c8b7b4ab813e915b14e4942973c62a1b' | sudo apt-key add -
[17:50] <syba_two> ok, thanks !
[17:56] <pennTeller> Hi guys, I am having a very dificult time figuring out why my laptop's tap-to-click stops working after 3 minutes of my laptop booting up. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
[17:57] <deadrom> hi
[17:58] <deadrom> need to share my screen with someone while they share their screen with me. across the internet. what software can do?
[17:58] <sarnold> thanks tomreyn :) doorbell rang, hehe
[18:02] <tomreyn> :)
[18:04] <syba_two> i'm really not having any success with this remastering business....
[18:04] <KodiakIT[m]> Any ideas what's going on with KDE here? https://imgur.com/a/ZErEuMW I've set the theme to Breeze Dark wherever I can find it, but and the previews seem to show that it should be using the dark theme, but I still get this result anyway
[18:06] <KodiakIT[m]> (Using that to build Dolphin stable from 3y + some months ago to try and port to flatpak to use on my Arch daily driver)
[18:09] <syba_two> heres the output from a tool failing to make an ISO. Is there anything specific about the exit or the earlier warning/error messages that give you people any obvious clues?
[18:09] <syba_two> https://pastebin.com/HdvkPas2
[18:09] <tomreyn> deadrom: there are several web browser based software-as-a-service providers which offer this.
[18:09] <diskin> hi pennTeller, I've found some info which might be related: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2396860
[18:10] <pennTeller> diskin: thank you very much
[18:13] <tomreyn> deadrom: if you run your own server, there is 'Jitsi Meet' as an (apparently?) free and open source self-hostable video telephony + voice + text chat and screen sharing solution (i.e. like google hangouts): https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet/
[18:23] <pennTeller> I've confirmed that touching my trackpad with my palm breaks the tap-to-click functionality. No idea why though.
[18:25] <diskin> pennTeller, which OS and desktop environment is it? is it also happening if you boot from a live USB?
[18:25] <barg> pennTeller: what if youhave your palm on it and you drag your palm? does it click and drag?
[18:26] <pennTeller> diskin: Ubuntu 18.04 on a Legion Y540 laptop. Haven't tested using a live usb yet
[18:27] <sarnold> pennTeller: there's some controls for "palm detection" -- I wonder if you flip those off if you'll be happier
[18:27] <pennTeller> barg: no, palm rejection seems to work fine and so does tap to click but as soon as one palm is rejected tap to click stops working all of a sudden
[18:28] <pennTeller> sarnold: where do I find such controls?
[18:29] <sarnold> pennTeller: excellent question indeed :) I'm pretty sure I've seen it in a gnome control panel screenshot..
[18:29] <tomreyn> settings, gnome-tweaks, or (worst case) gsettings org.gnome...
[18:29] <sarnold> pennTeller: I think I've also seen it in libinput docs, but .. I'm having trouble finding it again
[18:31] <pennTeller> sarnold: thanks :)
[18:32] <tomreyn> gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad
[18:34] <Intelo> tomreyn, XPS 15 9570
[18:35] <tomreyn> Intelo: so access dell.com in your web browser, look for 'support' and there for drivers, enter this model number, look for bios
[18:36] <Intelo> tomreyn,  I am on that page. What after that? How to install?
[18:36] <tomreyn> it will say there.
[18:37] <Intelo> https://www.dell.com/support/home/tr/tr/trdhs1/product-support/servicetag/6d0p2x2/drivers
[18:38] <Intelo> tomreyn,  it says "Browse to the location where you downloaded the file and double-click the new file."
[18:38] <Intelo> I don't have windows
[18:39] <tomreyn> Intelo: it may be here if Dell supports LVFS for this model: https://fwupd.org/lvfs/docs/users
[18:40] <tomreyn> other than that, that's something you need to discuss with Dell (or could have checked before acquiring the hardware)
[18:41] <sarnold> Intelo: a dell employee was instrumental in getting fwupd supported on ubuntu; check to see if it can help you install firmware updates
[18:41] <tomreyn> looks like this model is supported
[18:42] <tomreyn> so just use gnome software / kde discover / fwupdmgr
[18:42] <Intelo> tomreyn,  I do not have a system...
[18:42] <Intelo> os
[18:43] <tomreyn> !recovery | Intelo
[18:44] <Intelo> tomreyn,  sir.. the harddisk is not there. It says that. So there is no system
[18:46] <tomreyn> Intelo: where does it say "the hard disk is not there"?
[18:46] <Intelo> tomreyn,  at boot time....
[18:47] <Intelo> After installing kubuntu with existing windows but I full encrypted the disk, it says no disk available. I installed without encrypted few times but same issue. Here are few screenshots. Kubuntu 18, dell xps 15 https://imge.to/i/zsp4G    https://imge.to/i/zsBrZ
[18:47] <Intelo> " it says no disk available" ^
[18:47] <tomreyn> the first sentence is a bit difficult to understand for me.
[18:48] <tomreyn> so the windows installation is gone, i assume?
[18:49] <tomreyn> i've never seen an error message saying literally "no disk available", so maybe that's not what it says exactly.
[18:50] <EriC^^> it seems to see /dev/sdb in the screenshot
[18:51] <EriC^^> guess that's the live usb you're booting Intelo ?
[18:51] <tomreyn> as i pointed out previously, your installation media can be defective / incoherent /incomplete. so i suggested to re-do it, and to verify checksums.
[18:52] <EriC^^> it's definitely whining about failure to read blocks from squashfs so my money's on what tomreyn said
[18:52] <Intelo> EriC^^,  Live usb can just install not run live. After install I get "no disk"
[18:53] <Intelo> tomreyn,  I installed with 3 usbs
[18:53] <tomreyn> Intelo: and all of them showed these squashfs errors?
[18:53] <Intelo> yes
[18:53] <EriC^^> Intelo: hmm are you sure the bios settings are correct?
[18:53] <tomreyn> Intelo: this suggests that your iso download was broken
[18:53] <Intelo> iam not sure
[18:53] <EriC^^> first do as tomreyn said and checksum i'd say and stuff
[18:53] <Intelo> let me checksum
[18:54] <EriC^^> Intelo: you dont want it saying 'failure to read blocks' when the live usb is booting
[18:54] <EriC^^> that's a definite no-no and if the image is good then the usb might be faulty
[18:54] <Intelo> EriC^^,  that is in snapshot
[18:54] <Intelo> EriC^^,  arnt those HDD reading errors?
[18:54] <Intelo> How to checksum usb?
[18:55] <EriC^^> squashfs is the fs for the live usb
[18:55] <Intelo> I am just doing it
[18:55] <Intelo> iam checking via checksum
[18:56] <EriC^^> Intelo: get the size of the iso then do "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX bs=<size in bytes of iso> count=1 | md5sum
[18:56] <EriC^^> with sdx as your usb
[18:56] <Intelo> EriC^^,  I cannt get to terminal
[18:56] <Intelo> I can only install
[18:56] <EriC^^> how are you making the live usb?
[18:56] <Intelo> I just selected option "check cd for errors"
[18:57] <Intelo> EriC^^,  by kubuntu startup disk creater
[18:57] <Intelo> check finished errors found in 1 files
[18:57] <EriC^^> checksum the iso, if it's good then use a different usb, and run the check on that one again
[18:58] <EriC^^> also check the bios settings for legacy booting, no disk sounds pretty odd, make sure the bios sees your hdd and you can select it first in the boot order
[18:58] <Intelo> EriC^^,  all will be checked by this? sudo dd if=/dev/sdX bs=<size in bytes of iso> count=1 | md5sum
[18:59] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:59] <Intelo> how I know bs
[19:00] <EriC^^> stat -c %s /path/to/iso
[19:00] <tomreyn> ls -l kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:00] <Intelo><PHONE_NUMBER> Aug  2 01:38 kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:00] <Intelo> EriC^^,  by ls -la ^
[19:00] <EriC^^> ok, so it's 192....0
[19:00] <Intelo> why /dev/sdx?
[19:01] <EriC^^> sdx is an example, replace it by your usb's name
[19:01] <Intelo> I should write it as is?
[19:01] <Intelo> oh ok
[19:01] <EriC^^> sudo parted -ls should give the name
[19:01] <Intelo> well the menu option in cd said 1 file issue
[19:01] <Intelo> how can I just check .iso?
[19:02] <EriC^^> !hashes | Intelo
[19:02] <EriC^^> grab the hash for your file from there and compare "md5sum /path/to/iso" with it
[19:02] <lastebill1> I just installed ubuntu on my matebook.  One thing I very much miss compared to windows is the "continous" scrolling with two fingers.  In windows I can just "throw" the scrolling, and it will continue to scroll for a few moments.  It severely reduces the stress on my hand.  Is there a way to achieve this in ubuntu?
[19:03] <EriC^^> lastebill1: i dont know about continuous scroll, but you can change the settings for how much scrolling it does per input
[19:03] <Intelo> EriC^^,  ya but how do I check ?
[19:03] <EriC^^> "gsettings list-recursively | grep touchpad" should list some stuff you can tweak
[19:04] <Intelo> $ md5sum kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:04] <Intelo> a493fbe0f9c2cff7c7565aed4a3dda58  kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:04] <Intelo> how do I know its correct?
[19:04] <EriC^^> k go to the site and look at the hash there Intelo
[19:05] <Intelo> I got there but cannot find hash. Just download links
[19:05] <Intelo> got it
[19:05] <Intelo> a493fbe0f9c2cff7c7565aed4a3dda58
[19:05] <Intelo> a493fbe0f9c2cff7c7565aed4a3dda58
[19:05] <Intelo> same
[19:05] <EriC^^> looks good, seems like a faulty usb
[19:05] <Intelo> so problem in writing
[19:06] <lastebill1> EriC^^ ok, thank you.  What I'd like I guess is the scrolling to continue a few moments after the input stops.  Or that would at least be a start.  Any idea what this feature is called, so I could correctly google it and maybe find someone else that has worked on it?
[19:06] <Intelo> EriC^^, ok. So all that was due to faulty usb. The hdd should not be seen as "not present" in anycase
[19:06] <Intelo> no?
[19:07] <EriC^^> lastebill1: i think it's touchpad scroll momentum
[19:08] <EriC^^> lastebill1: https://askubuntu.com/questions/301766/turn-off-trackpad-scroll-momentum
[19:08] <EriC^^> try synclient CoastingSpeed=<some positive number>
[19:08] <Intelo> er its not a bios firmware issue?
[19:09] <EriC^^> Intelo: if i had to guess, i think it's not a bios firmware, cause you said you're able to install to the hdd, so it must be something to do with the booting, maybe some setting is wrong in boot options
[19:10] <lastebill1> EriC^^ ok, thank you!  I'll try that straight away
[19:10] <Intelo> EriC^^,  its xps 15
[19:10] <EriC^^> Intelo: it could be something as simple as a missing hex in the partition table, some bios require 05 i think in the partition table, they'll ignore any disk if it's missing it, and some want a boot flag on a partition too
[19:11] <Intelo> the no disk after ubuntu install is present on internet
[19:11] <EriC^^> Intelo: can you pastebin "sudo parted -ls" with the hdd installed? and also perhaps "sudo dd if=/dev/sdx bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C"
[19:11] <EriC^^> Intelo: any links?
[19:11] <Intelo> EriC^^,  should I do that with gparted llive cd?
[19:12] <EriC^^> Intelo: so it was booting fine with windows, just after ubuntu it says no disk?
[19:12] <Intelo> EriC^^, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1088445/installed-ubuntu-18-04-on-dell-xps15-no-bootable-device-found
[19:12] <Intelo> EriC^^,  it was booting fine with windows
[19:12] <Intelo> correct
[19:13] <Intelo> EriC^^, I made usb , checked it, no errors now
[19:13] <Intelo> but still getting those acpi parsing errors
[19:13] <Intelo> whlie I boot via usb
[19:13] <EriC^^> it looks like that guy's problem was that he didn't create a /boot partition
[19:13] <tomreyn> so it said "no bootable device found", not "no disk available"?
[19:13] <Intelo> EriC^^,  me?
[19:13] <EriC^^> no, the link you gave Intelo
[19:14] <Intelo> I never created /boot either
[19:14] <Intelo> I just do /
[19:14] <EriC^^> well, that is a problem
[19:14] <Intelo> ahan?
[19:14] <Intelo> I installed kubuntu trillions of times. I just do / ext4
[19:14] <EriC^^> but still, i'd expect it to give a grub rescue> shell
[19:14] <Intelo> so what exactly should I do?
[19:15] <EriC^^> maybe you didn't set the bootloader installation location too? or since there's no /boot with a boot flag it greeted you with no bootable disk found, i think that's what happened
[19:15] <Intelo> I once did / ext4.  Once I did "guided use entir disk and setup encrypted LVM"
[19:15] <EriC^^> Intelo: with an encrypted install you need a separate /boot, or else you need to tweak grub before rebooting into the install
[19:16] <Intelo> I used to do this in past. All worked fine. No separate /boot
[19:16] <EriC^^> Intelo: it must have created it for you, it cant work with a /boot
[19:16] <EriC^^> maybe im wrong and it tweaked grub then
[19:16] <Intelo> but anyway, what to do now? create 2 partitions. One for /  and one for /boot? thats all ? Both ext4?
[19:17] <Intelo> funny thing is that I created and check new usb, no errors. I still get parse errors at boot.
[19:17] <EriC^^> Intelo: you don't really need to if you dont want to, but you need to tweak it as i said, also make sure some partition has the boot flag
[19:17] <Intelo> no errors at check menu ^
[19:17] <EriC^^> Intelo: please pastebin 'sudo parted -ls' if possible
[19:18] <EriC^^> aha that's good
[19:18] <Intelo> how can I paste that if I cannot get into terminal
[19:18] <Intelo> tip: My ssd is NVM
[19:18] <EriC^^> ah right, ok, install kubuntu, if you dont want a /boot dont create it, but dont reboot after the install
[19:19] <EriC^^> after the install, type "sudo parted -ls" and pastebin
[19:19] <Intelo> ahan. ok. but how can I get in terminal?
[19:19] <EriC^^> also mount the install at /mnt , then type "cat /etc/default/grub" and pastebin
[19:19] <EriC^^> Intelo: ohh you dont have a live session forgot
[19:19] <EriC^^> do you get a terminal if you press "ctrl+alt+f2" ?
[19:20] <Intelo> let me see after install then
[19:20] <EriC^^> you should be able to get a live session going with that iso, what happens when you choose "try ubuntu" ?
[19:20] <EriC^^> i'd try now, it would save you time/effort
[19:20] <Intelo> when I choose try, it gets frozen. Mouse disappears
[19:20] <ayekat> tip: always choose "try ubuntu", even if you intend to perform an installation
[19:20] <ayekat> oh
[19:20] <EriC^^> good tip from ayekat
[19:20] <Intelo> this happened with 3 usbs
[19:21] <Intelo> when I choose try, it gets frozen. Mouse disappears
[19:21] <Intelo> I guessed it cannot write to ssd
[19:21] <Intelo> or can it?
[19:21] <Intelo> so whats the reason?
[19:21] <Intelo> ram issue? bios issue? usb issue?
[19:21] <Intelo> ssd issue?
[19:22] <Intelo> I am going to create a gparted cd
[19:22] <EriC^^> Intelo: try booting with nomodeset
[19:22] <Intelo> will boot and let you know. I hope it will have terminal
[19:22] <Intelo> nomodeset? how to do that?
[19:23] <EriC^^> Intelo: when you boot the live and you're at the check cd stuff, does it give options at the bottom?
[19:23] <Intelo> pl
[19:23] <Intelo> ok
[19:23] <EriC^^> like this https://i.stack.imgur.com/FfEwE.png
[19:25] <Intelo> F4 for modes but when I press F4, nothing happens
[19:25] <EriC^^> press f6 for options then nomodeset
[19:26] <Intelo> no F* is doing anything
[19:27] <Intelo> EriC^^, booting gparted usb
[19:27] <EriC^^> Intelo: try with Fn+F6
[19:28] <Intelo> gparted cd is giving similar issues of parse ach.. errors
[19:28] <EriC^^> yeah the acpi + linux are definitely not getting along
[19:29] <lastebill1> EriC^^ fantastic!  I installed synclient and rebooted the system, and now the coastingspeed works!
[19:29] <Intelo> EriC^^,  don't you think its about bios?
[19:29] <EriC^^> lastebill1: awesome, great to hear
[19:30] <Intelo> I am on terminal. What do you want me to type?
[19:30] <Intelo> I am on terminal of gparted
[19:30] <EriC^^> Intelo: tbh i dunno much about acpi, i do know you can trick the bios into thinking linux is windows by passing acpi_osi=<stuff here> in grub
[19:30] <EriC^^> Intelo: well, try "sudo parted -ls" while you're there
[19:30] <Intelo> what should I do?
[19:30] <Intelo> ok
[19:31] <tomreyn> kubuntu 18.04.2 installer / live iso seems to only show a basic grub menu when uefi booting. when bios / csm booting, it shows the F key menu
[19:31] <EriC^^> is ubuntu already installed right now? that would be great
[19:31] <EriC^^> yeah that's true tomreyn
[19:31] <Intelo> says pri ext4 boot
[19:32] <EriC^^> i wonder why they dont make the nice menu for uefi
[19:32] <Intelo> extended
[19:32] <Intelo> logical
[19:32] <tomreyn> (meaning the installer was booted in bios mode)
[19:32] <EriC^^> Intelo: so there is a /boot currently
[19:32] <Intelo> no
[19:32] <EriC^^> then what's the ext4?
[19:33] <Intelo> flag boot
[19:33] <Intelo> tell me how to upgrade bios?
[19:34] <EriC^^> Intelo: one last check, for due diligence
[19:35] <EriC^^> Intelo: type "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C" look at the last 2 hex, is it 55 aa?
[19:35] <EriC^^> replace sdx with your hdd
[19:37] <Intelo> invalid opion -C
[19:37] <Intelo> how to make live cd of FD12FULL.vmdk
[19:37] <Intelo> freedos
[19:38] <EriC^^> Intelo: try without the -C
[19:38] <Intelo> ok
[19:39] <Intelo> with c is fine now
[19:39] <EriC^^> so do you see 55aa or so?
[19:39] <Intelo> last line is 000000200
[19:39] <Intelo> no
[19:39] <EriC^^> well, that could be it then
[19:39] <Intelo> could be what?\
[19:40] <EriC^^> Intelo: one other thing, what is the partition table type listed in parted -ls?
[19:40] <EriC^^> msdos or gpt
[19:40] <Intelo> msdos
[19:40] <priyankasaggu119> Hello folks, I just upgraded my OS from Ubuntu 18.04.1 to 19.04.1 and I am facing certain problems. To mention a few, 1. I am not able to install python dependent packages. Check this paste to see the error or stuff happened while I was trying to install vim. 2. Also, The Dock is not scrollable/slidable. 3. I am not able to use ansible as well. I tried to purge ansible & dependencies and re-install but it still shows
[19:40] <priyankasaggu119> this error. https://paste.gnome.org/pamiqb3zg.  Any help or pointers will be highly appreciated.
[19:41] <Intelo> EriC^^,  what seems the issue
[19:42] <EriC^^> Intelo: as i said earlier, some bios will ignore the disk if there's no 55aa in the end of the partition table
[19:42] <EriC^^> it won't bother loading the bootloader in the mbr if it doesnt see that
[19:43] <Intelo> EriC^^,  so what to do?
[19:44] <EriC^^> Intelo: what you could do is very easy and simple, type "sudo parted /dev/sdX unit s print" it should give you the sector locations of the partition, keep that somewhere open another terminal and then recreate the partition table using fdisk, then recreate the partitions in the same location, confirm 55aa now exists, it should boot
[19:44] <Intelo> EriC^^,  hey I just got the same result of sudo dd if=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C  when I did with my other ok laptop
[19:44] <EriC^^> Intelo: yeah, not all bios are finicky about it
[19:45] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: you're only showing one error here, about /usr/local/bin/ansible-playbook not finding the 'ansible' module. software installed at /usr/local/ is software you installed yourself by means we cannot know or support here. use ubuntu packages instead.
[19:45] <pennTeller> Nothing works :(  If use Synaptics then palm rejection and disabling while typing doesnt work for my trackpad at all. If I use libinput, tap to click works fine until my palm touches the trackpad. Then tap to click immediately stops working.
[19:45] <Intelo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GBKZm2f3Ks/
[19:45] <javaJake> priyankasaggu119: I had this same issue not very long ago. You had a custom ansible installed and it's interfering with the official Ubuntu version. You need to make sure you've really cleaned all ansible installs before attempting to use the official version.
[19:46] <EriC^^> Intelo: that looks zero'd
[19:46] <Intelo> ya. same for working laption. same for non-working
[19:46] <Intelo> tell me how to upgrade bios?
[19:46] <EriC^^> Intelo: anyways i can 95% assure you this is the problem
[19:46] <priyankasaggu119> ok javaJake, tomreyn I should clean it again and re-install the official version.
[19:46] <EriC^^> Intelo: i won't help you anymore if you want to run the show, and i am telling you 95% this is the problem, up to you
[19:47] <Intelo> EriC^^,  ok. what to do now?
[19:47] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: undo whatever created /usr/local/bin/ansible-playbook and install the "ansible" package
[19:47] <EriC^^> Intelo: what you could do is very easy and simple, type "sudo parted /dev/sdX unit s print" it should give you the sector locations of the partition, keep that somewhere open another terminal and then recreate the partition table using fdisk, then recreate the partitions in the same location, confirm 55aa now exists, it should boot
[19:48] <priyankasaggu119> tomreyn, I am on it. Also, I missed pasting this https://paste.gnome.org/pwwshu8al for the 1st issue. Any pointers for it as well?
[19:49] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: did you run    sudo apt update    (or "sudo apt-get update") beforehand?
[19:50] <priyankasaggu119> tomreyn, "sudo apt-get update"
[19:50] <priyankasaggu119> yes
[19:51] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: show the URL returned by    sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[19:51] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: this gatheres information on apt on your system, it does not make changes
[19:51] <Intelo> EriC^^,  I cannot got live, I cannot go f4 modes.
[19:51] <EriC^^> Intelo: you dont need live you can use the gparted live
[19:51] <Intelo> ok
[19:52] <EriC^^> it should have fdisk and parted..
[19:52] <Intelo> tel me in detail
[19:52] <EriC^^> run "sudo parted /dev/sdX unit s print" replace sdx as usual
[19:52] <priyankasaggu119> ok tomreyn. https://termbin.com/iv9n
[19:52] <Intelo> k
[19:53] <linuxr> hello anyone, I'm just trying to install a "laserjet p1006 printer", with little success so far...I can find and install the printer (usb), but when I print something it vanishes from the queue after some seconds without the printer doing anything
[19:53] <Intelo> failur crea5ting \sb.pc10.xhc.rhub.ss10
[19:54] <Intelo> cannot boo\t any now
[19:55] <OerHeks> Intelo, you typed that error yourself?
[19:55] <Intelo> ya
[19:55] <JimBuntu> linuxr, did you install the HP device manager software as well?
[19:55] <Intelo> EriC^^, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1088445/installed-ubuntu-18-04-on-dell-xps15-no-bootable-device-found
[19:55] <linuxr> JimBuntu, no...is this available from the repositories?
[19:56] <JimBuntu> linuxr, I don't think so, I think you would want to grab that from HP directly. I haven't really had any issues with modern HP printers when using the HP software from their web site
[19:56] <Intelo> After installing kubuntu with existing windows but I full encrypted the disk, it says no disk available. I installed without encrypted few times but same issue. Here are few screenshots. Kubuntu 18, dell xps 15 https://imge.to/i/zsp4G    https://imge.to/i/zsBrZ
[19:56] <linuxr> JimBuntu, I hadn't any issues at all with printers in linux...until now
[19:57] <linuxr> usually it just works out of the box with generic drivers
[19:58] <Intelo> For my satisfation. HOw can I install dell drivers or freedos via linux? how to create usb?
[19:58] <JimBuntu> linuxr, This is what HP suggests - https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/gethplip
[19:59] <jnewt> is there an easy way to tell how long a computer has been untouched via ssh?  i have a mouse, shuttle multimedia controller, keyboard and touchscreen i want to know how long it's been since each of them have been touched.
[20:00] <leftyfb> jnewt: not without setting some sort of monitoring up first
[20:00] <cluelessperson> jnewt   `last`
[20:00] <cluelessperson> jnewt  `/var/log/auth.log`
[20:00] <linuxr> JimBuntu, seems I have "hplip" already installed
[20:00] <leftyfb> cluelessperson: that will only tell you the last user that successfully logged in via any means
[20:00] <OerHeks> Intelo, did you came here before for bios updates?
[20:01] <Intelo> OerHeks,  yes
[20:01] <jnewt> leftyfb: sounds like i need to set up some sort of monitoring.  any more info you can provide?
[20:03] <leftyfb> jnewt: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/222606/detecting-keyboard-mouse-activity-in-linux   # first result on google for "linux monitor for keyboard mouse activity"
[20:04] <Intelo> EriC^^,  how to recreate?
[20:04] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: hmm this looks ok, but something is still getting in the way, do you have held packages?   apt-mark showhold
[20:04] <priyankasaggu119> tomreyn, checking.
[20:04] <NightMakarios> Hello! How do I change the GDM login screen background on Ubuntu 19.04?
[20:04] <Intelo> how in the world do I install dell bios drivers with no hdd?
[20:05] <priyankasaggu119> No nothing it returned. tomreyn
[20:05] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: you must have some foreign package versions left, this can identify them: https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages
[20:05] <leftyfb> Intelo: contact Dell
[20:05] <Intelo> leftyfb, comon
[20:06] <leftyfb> Intelo: also, what in the world are you going to do with drivers if you have no hdd?
[20:06] <leftyfb> or do you mean update?
[20:06] <Intelo> leftyfb,  the issue with bios is not lettin me do anything with hdd
[20:06] <Intelo> leftyfb, update
[20:06] <leftyfb> Intelo: if you're asking how you update your BIOS with no hard drive, then this is a Dell question. Since you have no OS.
[20:07] <OerHeks> Intelo, https://www.dell.com/support/home/bg/en/bgbsdt1/drivers/driversdetails?driverId=1WN0H&osCode=WT64A&productCode=xps-15-9570-laptop pretty easy to find.. but you knew all about this
[20:07] <cjoke> secure boot efi problem , can anyone pls have a look? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RwQ7VVtVyT/
[20:08] <EriC^^> Intelo: according to google, on the dell for ubuntu to work you need to switch the AHCI in the bios from RAID to SATA
[20:08] <OerHeks> cjoke, why not use the mainline builds?
[20:08] <OerHeks> !mainline
[20:08] <priyankasaggu119> ok tomreyn, I am running the commands. Will get back as I am done.
[20:08] <Intelo> EriC^^,  I have switched from Raid to ahci
[20:08] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: okay, i'll be waiting.
[20:09] <EriC^^> Intelo: try installing in uefi mode maybe? that should save you a lot of headaches and newer system
[20:10] <cjoke> OerHeks: because there is a scarlett-2gen-mixer.ko, im testing for an alsadeveloper, I have that card, and im afk from main computer, and having this "awesome" laptop with secureboot :/
[20:12] <priyankasaggu119> tomreyn, Back. Will this help identifying the issue?  https://paste.gnome.org/pvntdgu0x and https://paste.gnome.org/prgxjfa9j
[20:13] <dziegler> Hi, I try to passthrough a PCIe USB Controller to an KVM. I tested it with my GPU and it works find, but i can't figure out why I can not passthrough my USB Controller. Thats my config: https://gist.github.com/nook24/4dbc0e5ceb38c632f96d5518f08bdc28
[20:13] <cjoke> OerHeks: I will make it work, just trying to save some time. guess Im of to read some "awesome" techpr0n :->
[20:13] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: the first paste seems to be incomplete output of the foreign_packages script. can you share the complete output?
[20:14] <jnewt> leftyfb: that was one of the first things i found as well.   xprintidle gets me "No protocol specified" error and the complete c solution fails with the same error plus a "-1"
[20:14] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: if you prefer not to share the complete output, can you tell in which category these packages were listed?
[20:16] <priyankasaggu119> tomreyn, I think I shared the complete output only. I revised the paste though https://paste.gnome.org/pvntdgu0x
[20:16] <Intelo> EriC^^,  if eufi mode, it says /Boot/efi/mmx64 not found and does not boots livecd at all..
[20:18] <OerHeks> "install" in uefi mode, not "boot" in uefi mode...
[20:18] <OerHeks> legacy boot is not needed for linux
[20:18] <OerHeks> clear the disk, choos GPT, not legacy/mbr and you are fine
[20:20] <Intelo> OerHeks,  how to install in eufi mode?
[20:20] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: hmm did foreign_packages not print   "[ No available version in archive ]"    or   "[ Newer than version in archive ]" then? i have not tested it on 19.04, yet
[20:20] <Intelo> OerHeks,  at what point should I choose disk GPT?
[20:20] <priyankasaggu119> tomreyn, brb
[20:21] <OerHeks> just set the bios to boot UEFI, and boot.. nothing fancy to that
[20:21] <OerHeks> choose whole disc, maybe you get that question, or it will do it automaticly
[20:21] <Intelo> OerHeks,  well thats what I did...
[20:21] <OerHeks> !uefi
[20:21] <priyankasaggu119> tomreyn, I think I missed running a command before. Doing that only. I shall tell you what I got as I am done.
[20:22] <Intelo> OerHeks, EriC^^ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GwHkW2kFD8/
[20:22] <Intelo> o.O
[20:22] <Intelo> what do you mean by this? <OerHeks> clear the disk, choos GPT, not legacy/mbr and you are fine
[20:23] <priyankasaggu119> tomreyn, https://paste.gnome.org/pei1vo5ii
[20:26] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: so this output has two sections. packages listed under "No available version in archive" are packages which you have either installed manually as .deb packages (by pointing apt or dpkg to a previously downloaded .deb file), or, more likely, are leftovers from apt repositories you once had configured (and active).
[20:26] <Intelo> OerHeks, EriC^^ ?
[20:26] <priyankasaggu119> ok
[20:27] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: you should review these packages, decide which ones you still need, and uninstall those you no longer need. for those you still need, try to find a !PPA or third party APT repository or a !snap which provides these packages, and set those up. afterwards, run the script again to ensure these packages no longer show up in this first section.
[20:28] <priyankasaggu119> ok tomreyn, makes sense.
[20:28] <EriC^^> Intelo: maybe try to remount it read-write "sudo mount -o remount,rw media/user1/Kubuntu 18.04.2 LTS amd64"
[20:28] <EriC^^> Intelo: typo, maybe try to remount it read-write "sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/user1/Kubuntu 18.04.2 LTS amd64"
[20:29] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: in the second section you have packages which are also available from the repositories you have currently configured, but the packages you have installed are installed in newer versions than those the apt repositories you have configured provide. you should either downgrade these packages to the versions available in ubuntu, or uninstall them (if not needed), or configure a !PPA or third party APT repository or a !snap which
[20:29] <tomreyn> provides these packages in these or newer versions, and set those up. afterwards, run the script again to ensure these packages no longer show up in this second section.
[20:30] <priyankasaggu119> ok tomreyn.
[20:30] <Intelo> EriC^^,  tell me way to upgrade my bios
[20:31] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: you can type the words i wrote with an !exclamation !mark here to get more information on these topics from our channel bot 'ubottu'.
[20:31] <priyankasaggu119> ah ok tomreyn. I am trying.
[20:32] <priyankasaggu119> !PPA
[20:32] <priyankasaggu119> !snap
[20:33] <priyankasaggu119> ok tomreyn, I think I should do the work of cleaning now. Thanks alot for the time. I will catch you up again here with whatever result I get. :)
[20:34] <tomreyn> priyankasaggu119: you'Re welcome, good luck there.
[20:34] <priyankasaggu119> Thank you :)
[20:36] <Intelo> ... really need this. It will hurt a lot of work if I dont get this right
[20:43] <leftyfb> Intelo: https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/sln171755/updating-the-dell-bios-in-linux-and-ubuntu-environments?lang=en
[20:44] <leftyfb> Intelo: it took me about 6 seconds to google for "ubuntu upgrade dell bios"
[20:45] <Intelo> thx
[20:50] <pennTeller> Ubuntu upgrade lenovo bios
[20:50] <pennTeller> Oops my bad lol
[21:02] <u0_a37> can you help me?
[21:02] <u0_a37> I want to learn about hackers
[21:03] <Intelo> EriC^^, OerHeks I upgraded firmware. Still same issue. How can I solve this problem? I want to add this file. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GwHkW2kFD8/
[21:05] <BgGel> Can you teach me about hackers?
[21:07] <guntbert> !ot > BgGel
[21:08] <BgGel> ubottu how to see your private message?
[21:09] <oikasd> im trying to setup kvm and im in the step of adding my user to the kvm group "libvirt". When i add my user it says that my user is already member, but when i try to list groups with "groups" then its not there
[21:09] <ikonia> log out and back in
[21:09] <ikonia> you need a new session to pickup the change
[21:10] <guntbert> BgGel: ubottu sent you a message, you will see in in another window in your irc client
[21:10] <BgGel> ubottu: I just want to study
[21:11] <guntbert> BgGel: this channel is solely for Ubuntu support
[21:11] <dax> please don't use !ot for topics that are offtopic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:11] <Intelo> how to fix and scan harddrive boot record issues in ubuntu?
[21:12] <BgGel> ubottu: many insulted me
[21:12] <dax> BgGel: freenode in general and this channel in particular do not do blackhat hacking stuff.
[21:12] <BgGel> guntbert:many insulted me
[21:12] <guntbert> dax: point taken, thx for the reminder
[21:13] <BgGel> Please, teach your knowledge a little with me
[21:14] <BgGel> because I'm always insulted by people around me -_-
[21:15] <BgGel> guntbert:I want to prove that I can be like my idol, anonymous
[21:16] <Sven_vB> Intelo, is that shell inside a live session?
[21:16] <Intelo> Sven_vB, I do not have shell but let me try
[21:17] <Sven_vB> Intelo, I just noticed it seems you don't have a weird shell prompt but instead you're in a directoy whose path contains spaces.
[21:17] <Sven_vB> Intelo, did you mount the Ubuntu ISO into that path?
[21:17] <Sven_vB> or Kubuntu, rather
[21:17] <BgGel> ubottu:I hope you guys want to teach me about hackers
[21:18] <ikonia> BgGel: please stop asking about hacking
[21:18] <ikonia> it is not welcome on this network - you will not be asked to stop again
[21:19] <BgGel> guntbert:I hope you guys want to teach me about hackers
[21:19] <dax> heh, ikonia beat me to it
[21:19] <Intelo> EriC^^, OerHeks I upgraded firmware. Still same issue. How can I solve this problem? I want to add this file. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GwHkW2kFD8/
[21:19] <Intelo> sory for repeating
[21:19] <Intelo> Sven_vB, ^ for you
[21:20] <Sven_vB> Intelo, yeah I'm looking at that paste and try to figure out what you're trying to do.
[21:20] <Sven_vB> Intelo, do you have that shell open still? if so run "df -h ." to see which disk has the read-only FS.
[21:21] <linuxr> hi, any cups/printing expert around? My printer doesn't do anything when I'm trying to print
[21:21] <sarnold> linuxr: is there anything in the logs?
[21:22] <Intelo> Sven_vB, df -h dont give that
[21:22] <linuxr> sarnold, I don't find anything..don't know where to look though
[21:22] <Sven_vB> Intelo, the . is important, it tells df to check the current directory.
[21:23] <Sven_vB> it should output one header line and one interesting line with paths and numbers
[21:23] <linuxr> when I print a test page, the job is submitted to the cups printer queue and shown as "completed"...printer does nothing though
[21:23] <Intelo> which dot?
[21:23] <sarnold> linuxr: if you run journalctl -ef  and submit a print job, does anyuthing show up?
[21:23] <Sven_vB> Intelo, df -h .
[21:24] <Intelo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Wsp5qcM3z3/
[21:26] <Sven_vB> Intelo, ok now in that shell run "df -h ." ("df" space minus "h" space dot).
[21:26] <Intelo> I missed ./dev/sde1               1.8G  1.8G     0 100% /media/user1/Kubuntu 18.04.2 LTS amd64
[21:27] <Intelo> $ sudo df -h .
[21:27] <Intelo> df: no file systems processed
[21:27] <sarnold> wow. I've never seen *that* message before.
[21:28] <Sven_vB> do you happen to know what sde1 is? do you have a Kubuntu Live CD, or live USB stick plugged in? (if so, which?)
[21:29] <Sven_vB> also I wonder why root can't see it.
[21:29] <linuxr_> sarnold, maybe related to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1788018 ?
[21:36] <Sven_vB> Intelo, anyway, it seems you're trying to make a Kubuntu Live CD with some special EFI files. if you have a USB thumb drive with at least 2 GB free FAT32 (or where you can free up 2 GB and make them FAT32), there's an easy solution: get the Kubuntu 18.04.2 LTS amd64 ISO file, install unetbootin, start it (sudo -b unetbootin), open the target FAT32 partition in your file manager (because it might be harder to find later), use unetbootin
[21:36] <Sven_vB> to unpack the ISO onto the FAT32 partition, and when it's done, adjust the BOOT/EFI dir on the FAT32 you still have open in your file manager.
[21:37] <swift110> sup
[21:39] <Intelo> hm
[21:41] <swift110> how are you Intelo
[21:42] <Intelo> swift110,  terrible
[21:44] <Sven_vB> btw pro-tip for unetbootin: never make a large persistence file with it, it likes to fail when you do. either use none, or create it manually: make one with unetbootin that is just some 2 MB. when unb finished, delete the casper-rw file it made, make your own, preferably on another partition of the same thumb drive: head --bytes=2G >casper-rw && mkfs.ext3 --force ./casper-rw
[21:44] <swift110> why Intelo
[21:44] <swift110> Sven_vB, use etcher
[21:44] <Sven_vB> err, there was a /dev/zero missing in front of ">".
[21:44] <Sven_vB> swift110, I'll have a look, thanks!
[21:45] <Intelo> EriC^^, OerHeks I upgraded firmware. Still same issue. How can I solve this problem? I want to add this file. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GwHkW2kFD8/
[21:45] <Intelo> ah sory
[21:45] <Intelo> swift110, ^
[21:46] <Sven_vB> Intelo, that paste is rather useless unless we know what sde1 is
[21:48] <Intelo> Sven_vB, why not root do it
[21:50] <Sven_vB> Intelo, /dev/sde1 might not even be writable physically. in that case, even root can't do it, because it's still software. thus it's important to know what device you have as sde.
[21:51] <swift110> sure Sven_vB
[21:52] <pennTeller> Hi guys, is there a way to install necessary firmware for my laptop? Similar to how the installer suggests some firmware during installation.
[21:54] <Sven_vB> Intelo, if it's just about fsck, try sudo fsck -p /dev/sde1
[21:54] <Intelo> Sven_vB, swift110  its about After installing kubuntu with existing windows but I full encrypted the disk, it says no disk available. I installed without encrypted few times but same issue. Here are few screenshots. Kubuntu 18, dell xps 15 https://imge.to/i/zsp4G    https://imge.to/i/zsBrZ
[21:54] <Sven_vB> pennTeller, often the vendor offers a download on their homepage.
[21:54] <Intelo> xps 15 dell
[21:56] <Sven_vB> Intelo, do you just have a large delay or do you not like the suggestions so far?
[21:57] <Intelo> Sven_vB,  freez
[21:57] <OerHeks> windows and full encryption ( bitlocker) .. no way to install ubuntu then ..
[21:59] <pennTeller> In case anyone encounters a similar issue (Palm detection not working) performing a dist-upgrade solved my issue.
[21:59] <Intelo> OerHeks,  format
[22:00] <Intelo> OerHeks,  you have any idea about this? https://imge.to/i/zsp4G    https://imge.to/i/zsBrZ
[22:00] <OerHeks> Intelo, nope, those are old screenshot
[22:00] <Intelo> OerHeks, old? its of today
[22:01] <OerHeks> few hours old, yes
[22:02] <OerHeks> in the mean time, you tried something else, so what is the current status of booting in UEFI mode, and use full disk?
[22:02] <OerHeks> and don't tell me you do not know how to do that..
[22:09] <Intelo> OerHeks,  I updated bios. But all errros are same
[22:09] <Sven_vB> Intelo, also I'd still be interested in what you were really trying to do with that BOOT/EFI + cp + read-only paste. trying to modify a live medium? or an installed ubuntu? or sth. even different?
[22:14] <Intelo> Sven_vB,  just see https://imge.to/i/zsp4G    https://imge.to/i/zsBrZ
[22:16] <Sven_vB> I've no idea what that's about.
[22:16] <Sven_vB> is it a failed attempt at making a live medium?
[22:17] <bodom> Hi there. I have a 32 bit ubuntu. Is there a way to convert it to 64 bit?
[22:17] <tomreyn> bodom: unfortunately not, you'll need to reinstall.
[22:17] <jeremy31> bodom: install 64 bit on top
[22:18] <tomreyn> bodom: does your hardware support it?
[22:18] <Sven_vB> bodom, best to reinstall. if that's a burden, use this occasion to make all your next reinstalls less of a burden.
[22:18] <Intelo> 58
[22:18] <bodom> mhhh... can i reinstall and keep my /home, /etc, /var, and everything?
[22:18] <bodom> yep, the hardware supports it
[22:19] <Sven_vB> bodom, depends on where they are. a lot of the stuff in /etc and /var will become legacy deadweight.
[22:19] <tomreyn> a clean installationh is most recommendable IMO.
[22:20] <Sven_vB> bodom, if you have good backup (always a good idea), just restore the relevant parts later. :)
[22:20] <sarnold> (double-check the backup *before* you blast away your /home)
[22:21] <Sven_vB> bodom, back in the WinXP days, reinstalls were the horror for me, so many settings were lost each time. one of the reasons why I switched to Linux, so I can customize my (re)install so it yields a system that fits me.
[22:21] <bodom> spending days in restoring stuff from backups is definitely not on my plans
[22:22] <Sven_vB> if that takes days, you need better backup.
[22:22] <Sven_vB> or better restore.
[22:22] <stewie925> hello guys - I created a VM with adapter 1 (NAT) and 2 (host-only adapter) and built with 18.04 Ubuntu. However, when I started the VM and ran the /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml,  I only see enp0s3, but no enps08.
[22:22] <OerHeks> .. it is *your* data, not ours
[22:22] <bodom> isn't there a way to just reinstall the "binaries"?
[22:22] <sarnold> this is one of the reasons for putting /home on a different partition than / -- installers can usually leave your home partition alone
[22:22] <stewie925> although the ifconfig shows both enp0s3 and enp0s8
[22:23] <Sven_vB> bodom, it won't help for very long anyway. in a few years the config files formats will have changed and nothing works anymore.
[22:24] <Sven_vB> bodom, but yeah for the dirty approach you can just put your important directories on another partition and not destroy that in install.
[22:25] <Sven_vB> stewie925, which VM software? on which side (host? container?) do you mean "only see"?
[22:25] <sarnold> bodom: if you're in an adverturing mood, you could try to add x86-64 as another architecture to dpkg, start installing the amd64 versions alongside the i386 versions, and see what happens. I don't know how exactly you handle kernel..
[22:25] <tomreyn> debian calls it https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading
[22:26] <tomreyn> is it a good idea? i don't think so.
[22:26] <stewie925> Sven_vB:  hi I am using VirtualBox VM
[22:26] <sarnold> tomreyn: wow. that wiki page makes it look *way* easier than I suspect it actually is.
[22:27] <tomreyn> i bet it isn't that easy ;)
[22:27] <bodom> tomreyn: thanks, that's exactly what i was looking for… and now i also have a good keyword to google for ;)
[22:28] <sarnold> I fully expect the "install new kernel and reboot" step to crash and burn somewhere around the generate the initramfs step. but there's not a single word about it..
[22:28] <tomreyn> bodom: keep in mind though: if you have data that's important to you but not backed up then you're doing it wrong anyways. and if those storages are so slow recovering the data from a backup takes *too* long, you should consider getting faster storages.
[22:28] <sarnold> then again at the "configure the kernel's entries in the grub menu" step. again, not a single word.
[22:28] <Sven_vB> obviously don't reboot unless the initramfs was created successfully. :D
[22:29] <Sven_vB> sarnold, I could imagine that the kernel install triggers run update-grub2 which in turn creates the initramfs and updates the boot options.
[22:29] <stewie925> Sven_vB:  when I ran ifconfig   it shows enp0s3 (I assume it is for Network Adapter 1 - NAT)  and enp0s8 (Network Adapter 2 - Host-Only Adapter).  But when I cat '/etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml,  it lists only enp0s3 under "network:  ethernets:"
[22:30] <Sven_vB> stewie925, where did you run ifconfig?
[22:30] <stewie925> I ran it in the VM
[22:30] <stewie925> host, not container
[22:31] <Sven_vB> stewie925, which OS do you use on the host?
[22:32] <Intelo> what kind of partition table should it be. GPT or msdos or any other?
[22:32] <Sven_vB> stewie925, ifconfig usually has a switch to show even adapters that are down, on ubuntu it's -a.
[22:32] <Sven_vB> Intelo, GPT
[22:35] <Intelo> Sven_vB,  how and when I can choose that while installin gkubuntu?
[22:36] <stewie925> Sven_vB: oh yes, youre right -   running 'ifconfig '  alone does NOT show the enp0s8  ,   but 'ifconfig -a' does
[22:37] <stewie925> right now, i am able to run 'ping'  on google.com,   but  when I change the /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml to add a static IP to the enps08,  'ping google.com' no longer works.
[22:38] <Sven_vB> Intelo, you probably won't have to choose it. if you want to make sure, prepare the disk using gparted before you run the installer.
[22:38] <OerHeks> booting in UEFI mode, choosing whole disk should automatic use GPT. as stated in the uefi manual.
[22:38] <Sven_vB> Intelo, also ^
[22:41] <Intelo> OerHeks,  if I do uefi mode, my usb don't even boot
[22:41] <Sven_vB> stewie925, can you guess which info would be interesting when sth. "no longer works"? ;)
[22:42] <Intelo> OerHeks, i mean if I choose from bios to use uefi
[22:42] <Intelo> i have to use acpi
[22:43] <Intelo> OerHeks,  and for every linux usb, gparted , *buntu, I get same errors shown in picture
[22:43] <Intelo> acpi
[22:43] <Intelo> read error
[22:43] <Sven_vB> Intelo, try disable SecureBoot and then boot the USB drive in EFI mode
[22:43] <Intelo> already disabled
[22:43] <Sven_vB> could the thumb drive be just broken?
[22:43] <Intelo> cannot boot linux in efi
[22:43] <Intelo> i tried 2
[22:44] <Intelo> words fine on other laptops
[22:44] <Sven_vB> have you tried creating the live USB with unetbootin?
[22:44] <OerHeks> oh, tons of manuals about xps15 install tips; nouveau.modeset=0 to the boot options.
[22:44] <Intelo> nouveau.modeset=0? how to do that?
[22:45] <Intelo> Sven_vB,  no, startup disk creater
[22:45] <Sven_vB> stewie925, I'll just solve: what's the error message?
[22:45] <Sven_vB> Intelo, so how about you try with UNB? because for me that works for EFI with Ubuntu Bionic.
[22:46] <Sven_vB> Startup Disk Creator stopped working for me years ago.
[22:46] <OerHeks> it should work fine
[22:46] <Sven_vB> yeah, I agree, it totally should.
[22:48] <stewie925> sorry Sven_vB
[22:49] <Intelo> OerHeks,  Sven_vB  it complains it did not found EFI/BOOT/mmx64.efi
[22:50] <Sven_vB> Intelo, what is "it"? what complains?
[22:50] <Sven_vB> Intelo, did you adjust the BOOT/EFI dir as I suggested about an hour ago?
[22:50] <Intelo> usb boot
[22:50] <Intelo> can;t
[22:52] <Sven_vB> Intelo, search for "efi files" in https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/08/05/%23ubuntu.txt
[22:54] <Intelo> nouveau.modeset=0? how to do that?
[22:54] <Intelo> OerHeks,
[23:00] <Intelo> cannot find kubuntu 14 LTS
[23:02] <Sven_vB> Intelo, you might want to increase your skill in using search engines, and in asking for support on IRC, before you continue with Ubuntu. at the current level, you'll probably have more trouble than it's worth.
[23:04] <sarnold> Intelo: first, note that ubuntu 14.04 LTS standard support has ended; 14.04 LTS is only supported through the ESM program at this point https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[23:05] <Intelo> sarnold, hm
[23:05] <sarnold> Intelo: second, note that the flavours tend to have shorter support lifespans; I think three years is likely what you can expect
[23:05] <Intelo> sarnold, see https://imge.to/i/zsp4G    https://imge.to/i/zsBrZ
[23:06] <sarnold> wow, that looks unhappy
[23:06] <OerHeks> 2nd screen suggests you have kubuntu 18.04 ..
[23:07] <Intelo> OerHeks,  suggests?
[23:07] <OerHeks> really, you are running around in circels
[23:07] <Intelo> I do have 18
[23:07] <Intelo> its just now I am thinking to use 14 / 16
[23:07] <Sven_vB> that won't help.
[23:08] <Sven_vB> bionic is not the problem.
[23:08] <Intelo> what is?
[23:09] <Intelo> Sven_vB, ?
[23:09] <oikasd> So i was messing around with network settings of virt-manager on my KVM host machine and I somehow screwed it up to the point of having no actual internet on the host. Nothing shows up in the network settings, ive tried restarting etcetc. Not sure what to do, id rather not reinstall the whole machine
[23:11] <Sven_vB> dunno. I can only tell by what I see here, and that makes it look like the primary problem is about communication, or focus; I can neither follow nor understand your approach, and I wonder why you seem to ignore so many suggestions.
[23:12] <Sven_vB> Intelo, ^
[23:12] <oikasd> Is there some simpel way to reset the network adapter, like you can in windows?
[23:13] <n-iCe> hi
[23:14] <Intelo> OerHeks,  Sven_vB  changing ssd will work?
[23:15] <oikasd> The physical port on my motherboard isnt even blinking anymore. Jfc, how can messing around with virtual network settings screw things up like this
[23:15] <Sven_vB> oikasd, maybe you crashed the firmware. :D
[23:16] <oikasd> Ive restarted the machine
[23:16] <Sven_vB> oikasd, or you have just very bad luck with timing and the network cable's warranty expired just a few minutes ago.
[23:16] <sarnold> hehe
[23:18] <sarnold> Intelo: that first photograph suggests to me that you may need new firmware; you may also have broken hardware
[23:18] <tomreyn> oikasd: do a hard reset if the soft reset didn't help.
[23:18] <sarnold> Intelo: you could try firmware / bios update for your motherboard. but if ithe hardware is busted, that might not help
[23:19] <OerHeks> https://www.dell.com/support/article/nl/nl/nlbsdt1/sln306327/manual-nomodeset-kernel-boot-line-option-for-linux-booting
[23:21] <stewie925> I was bad at explaining my issue earlier -  hope this helps:   http://paste.openstack.org/show/755543/
[23:25] <OerHeks> stewie925, [<IP_ADDRESS>/24, ] is a typo > [<IP_ADDRESS>/24]
[23:25] <OerHeks> sudo netplan try # is a test tool
[23:26] <stewie925> OerHeks, thank you.  Let me make the change
[23:26] <sarnold> stewie925: try: ip route get <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:26] <stewie925> should I do 'sudo netplan try' ?
[23:26] <OerHeks> yes
[23:26] <sarnold> stewie925: i'm curious which route your dns packets ought to take..
[23:26] <stewie925> ok let me change it  - brb
[23:26] <OerHeks> after that runs oke, , netplan apply
[23:26] <OerHeks> that is the official procedure
[23:28] <stewie925> running 'sudo netplan try'  shows 'configuration accepted'
[23:28] <OerHeks> :-)
[23:28] <stewie925> I ran the 'sudo netplan apply',  and the 'ping google.com'  still fails with Temporary failure in name resolution
[23:29] <sarnold> stewie925: check your routing tables with ip route and ip route get <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:29] <Intelo> sarnold,  I already updated bios. same issue
[23:29] <stewie925> let me run the 'ip route get <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:29] <sarnold> Intelo: then perhaps it's broken hardware; I suggest talking to your hardware vendor
[23:30] <Intelo> sarnold,  its a new $3000 laptop xps 15. busted?
[23:30] <Intelo> OerHeks, hm
[23:30] <sarnold> Intelo: that would not surprise me
[23:30] <Sven_vB_> stewie925, did you configure nameservers in the static IP config?
[23:30] <stewie925> it shows:
[23:30] <stewie925> stack@ubuntu:~$ ip route get <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:30] <stewie925> <IP_ADDRESS> via <IP_ADDRESS> dev enp0s8 src <IP_ADDRESS> uid 1000
[23:30] <stewie925>     cache
[23:30] <Intelo> sarnold,  vendor will say "its due to linux. use windows"
[23:30] <Sven_vB_> stewie925, try: host google.com <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:31] <stewie925> btw Sven_B you might have missed my link earlier - http://paste.openstack.org/show/755543/
[23:31] <Sven_vB_> thanks
[23:32] <stewie925> thank you
[23:32] <stewie925> btw host google.com <IP_ADDRESS>  shows ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[23:32] <sarnold> Intelo: if so, then return it and buy one known to work well with linux.
[23:32] <sarnold> stewie925: ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[23:32] <Intelo> sarnold,  which one does in xps family?
[23:32] <Sven_vB_> stewie925, this means your DNS problem is result of missing connectivity to the name server
[23:33] <sarnold> Intelo: I don't know, I've bought only lenovo since apple's g3 ibook
[23:33] <stewie925> ping <IP_ADDRESS> shows these two lines:
[23:33] <stewie925> stack@ubuntu:~$ ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:33] <stewie925> PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[23:33] <stewie925> (and waiting)
[23:33] <Sven_vB_> in about a minute it should start spouting errors :)
[23:33] <sarnold> hehe
[23:33] <stewie925> I meant one line not two lines :D
[23:33] <stewie925> yeah I think so.. still waiting for the error hehe
[23:34] <OerHeks> after changing netplan, not on bare metal, you might need to restart the vm?
[23:34] <sarnold> stewie925: so.. are you perchance using a virtualization networking tool that only works for TCP and cannot work for UDP or ICMP or something?
[23:34] <Intelo> how to check sarnold
[23:34] <stewie925> wow, still waiting for the error
[23:35] <stewie925> sarnold, sorry I don't follow youre question.
[23:35] <stewie925> OerHeks,  I have not restarted my VM,  I only did 'sudo netplan apply ' - maybe that  is the problem?
[23:35] <OerHeks> i guess so ..
[23:36] <stewie925> let me reboot the vm, brb
[23:36] <stewie925> its not spitting out the error yet (hanging maybe)  rebooting now
[23:36] <sarnold> stewie925: qemu's "usermode" networking support doesn't do ICMP https://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Networking#User_Networking_.28SLIRP.29 -- so ping doesn't work on those. I was wrong about UDP.
[23:37] <stewie925> you might be wrong, but you know way more than I do lol
[23:37] <stewie925> :)
[23:38] <stewie925> ok, I rebooted, and ran ping <IP_ADDRESS>  - same thing ... waiting for error to be spit out
[23:38] <stewie925> stack@ubuntu:~$ ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:38] <stewie925> PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[23:43] <stewie925> 5 minutes and still pausing for errors
[23:44] <OerHeks> ctrl c
[23:45] <sarnold> stewie925: how about openssl s_client -connect <IP_ADDRESS>:853  ?
[23:45] <stewie925> sarnold, is it 853 after the colon (:) ?
[23:46] <stewie925> seems to be banging too
[23:46] <stewie925> oops hanging
[23:48] <stewie925> here it is:
[23:48] <stewie925> stack@ubuntu:~$ openssl s_client -connect <IP_ADDRESS>:853
[23:48] <stewie925><PHONE_NUMBER>90848:error:0200206E:system library:connect:Connection timed out:../crypto/bio/b_sock2.c:108:
[23:48] <stewie925><PHONE_NUMBER>90848:error:2008A067:BIO routines:BIO_connect:connect error:../crypto/bio/b_sock2.c:109:
[23:48] <stewie925> connect:errno=110
[23:48] <sarnold> stewie925: finally :) an error of some sort. It confirms more or less what I suspected: there's *something* that is dropping either your outgoing packets or the reply packets
[23:49] <sarnold> stewie925: do you have any firewall rules that DROP packets rather than REJECT packets?
[23:49] <sarnold> stewie925: maybe on your VM, maybe on your hypervisor machine, maybe on your router?
[23:49] <Intelo> OerHeks, sarnold  Sven_vB  it looks like Kubuntu 19 has UEFI support. I saw blue screen with that title at start and the usb got booted (contrary to 18 version). Installing. Lets see what happens next. I am encrypting and using full disk
[23:49] <stewie925> I am working from home on a company vpn
[23:50] <stewie925> that might be it (vpn?)  but I was able to ping with no issues before changing the netplan
[23:50] <sarnold> Intelo: (a) I can't imagine that would help you. You have acpi errors, which usually mean broken hardware or broken firmware or both. (b) You would be well advised to try *simple* things before you try complex things.
[23:51] <stewie925> it was much smoother pre-18.04 with network-manager hehe
[23:52] <Intelo> sarnold,  the OS is just installed... I am in.
[23:52] <Intelo> the language is not English. How I change that?
[23:59] <Intelo> OerHeks, Sven_vB ^