[00:00] <ign0ramus> coleys, kubuntu tries to force you to use Dolphin, but i still like Konqueror
[00:00] <ign0ramus> or midnightcommander ;)
[00:00] <Hedge|Hog> maybe a little more resource friendly to use dolphin, dont qoute me on that one though
[00:00] <coleys> you can most likely change the default file manager im assumingg..?
[00:01] <ign0ramus> coleys, yes, but I think sometimes kubuntu 'forgets' defaults
[00:01] <coleys> ahh, 9.04 is almost done ;))!!!
[00:02] <nameiner> Hi folks. Does anybody know why when I download a file in Firefox I don't get options to choose from with which application to open the file in the dialog that opens. That worked pretty well on 8.04 from which I upgraded to 9.04.
[00:02] <ign0ramus> nameiner, i think its called 'firefox-gnome-support'
[00:03] <ign0ramus> nameiner, try installing that package and restart firefox.  lemme know.
[00:04] <the1corrupted> Hello everyone!  I was wondering, is there a way to make command shorthands manually?  As in, my typed command "mysql" would actually be "mysql -u root -p"?
[00:04] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, yes, 'bash aliases' is what you want
[00:04] <Hedge|Hog> the1corrupted: aliases
[00:05] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, you want to edit ~/bash.rc
[00:05] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus: Thanks. :)
[00:05] <nameiner> ign0ramus: that wants to install a ton of other packages (it is a meta package). Do you know if I really need all of those packages? I'm always trying to keep the system as slim as possible.
[00:06] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, the format is "  alias mysql='mysql -u root -p'  "
[00:06] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus: Thanks again :P  That --help in the terminal is often very handy.
[00:06] <ign0ramus> nameiner, well, you can always uninstall them later, but i'm almost positive that's the package you need.. firefox is gtk after all ;)
[00:08] <Magicman1264> Coleys: I'm sorry if I sound stupid, I did the install and I'm at the agreement. Is there someplace I have to click to agree or do I just close out and try to open a new browser.
[00:08] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, my .bashrc - see the last 9 lines
[00:09] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, oops --> http://rafb.net/p/cWwhm954.html
[00:09] <coleys> Magicman1264: Press the right arrow key, then it will highlight yes.
[00:09] <coleys> Magicman1264: Then Press enter
[00:09] <Magicman1264> ok  Thank you.
[00:11] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus: Do you know how to set up localhost aliases with apache?
[00:12] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, that i've never done... i've actually never configured a server
[00:12] <nameiner> ign0ramus: I only need the package gnome-mime-data :)
[00:12] <Magicman1264> Coleys: Everything works fine now. Thank you so much for your time and help
[00:12] <ign0ramus> nameiner, glad you got it sorted out - i knew it was some gnome package that was missing
[00:13] <nameiner> ign0ramus: it should be recommendet in the firefox meta package and get installed when installing firefox
[00:14] <Guest99459> so kubuntu 9 doesn't come with adept?
[00:14] <ign0ramus> nameiner, it definitely doesn't happen all the time, then... i've had the same problem after installing Fx on a new box
[00:14] <ign0ramus> Guest99459, no, it uses kpackagekit, but you can still install adept if you like
[00:14] <ign0ramus> Guest99459, i'm not really a big fan of either...
[00:14] <Guest34760> hi  @ll
[00:15] <nameiner> ign0ramus: anyways, thanks for the push in the right direction :)
[00:15] <ign0ramus> nameiner, i'm always good for 'almost help'! ;)
[00:15] <Austin00> kpackagehit doesn't have firefox? :|
[00:16] <Austin00> *kit
[00:16] <ign0ramus> Austin00, it has nothing to do with kpackagekit; it has everything to do with your repositories
[00:16] <nameiner> ign0ramus: haha
[00:16] <ign0ramus> seriously.
[00:16] <Austin00> well yeah..I just mean by default
[00:16] <Guest34760> does anyone know how I can use nepomuk and strigi to search for file content in ubuntu 9.04?? It won't even start on my machine :(
[00:16] <Austin00> I dont want to find repositories :|
[00:17] <ign0ramus> Austin00, i'm pretty sure if you enable all the available Canonical repos, Firefox is in there
[00:17] <ign0ramus> Austin00, you should be able to check them from kpackagekit
[00:18] <Austin00> it has Canonical-supported checked in the list
[00:18] <nameiner> Austin00: I installed firefox right after installing the system without changing anything in the repositories
[00:18] <Austin00> yeah, thats why I am confused
[00:18] <ign0ramus> Austin00, what is you were to "sudo apt-get install firefox" in a terminal?
[00:18] <ign0ramus> *what if
[00:19] <Austin00> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:19] <Austin00> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[00:19] <Austin00> is only available from another source
[00:20] <ign0ramus> Austin00, what about "firefox-3.0"?
[00:20] <andrei_> ø
[00:20] <andrei_> :)
[00:21] <Austin00> Couldn't find package firefox-3.0
[00:21] <Austin00> hmm
[00:21] <coleys> How can I figure out the md5 checksum of kubuntu.amd64.desktop.iso?
[00:21] <Austin00> there is an text file in the iso with it listed I think
[00:21] <ign0ramus> Austin00, can you pastebin the result of "kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" ?
[00:23] <coleys> what program in Kubuntu opens .iso?
[00:23] <Austin00> http://pastebin.com/m11274d7a
[00:24] <ign0ramus> Austin00, hmm... other than having backports disabled, everything looks fine
[00:26] <Austin00> Dont think I have changed anything, just installed kubuntu like 10 minutes ago
[00:27] <ign0ramus> Austin00, and you apt-get update 'd without errors?
[00:28] <Austin00> I never did apt-get update
[00:28] <ign0ramus> Austin00, cant hurt ;)
[00:28] <david_> how do i turn off invitation desktop sharing
[00:28] <Austin00> hmm
[00:28] <Austin00> so yeah, now everything shows up
[00:28] <Austin00> after update
[00:29] <ign0ramus> Austin00, :)
[00:29] <nameiner> Austin00: then your system doesn't know what packages are available
[00:29] <Austin00> I assumed it would auto update the first time it was openned or something
[00:29] <Austin00> I guess
[00:29] <Austin00> thanks
[00:29] <ign0ramus> Austin00, i thought so too, that's why it wasn't the first thing i asked :/
[00:29] <ign0ramus> np
[00:30] <Makuseru> !mp3
[00:32] <st23am> is there a known issue where window resizing is really slow?
[00:33] <ign0ramus> st23am, depends if you're running compiz or kwin, or if you have integrated Intel graphics, etc.  need more info, in other words.
[00:33] <Hedge|Hog> st23am: i experience the same thing with kwin compositing
[00:38] <st23am> ya i am running kwin. and I use two Ati 4850's (dont have crossfire working yet)
[00:39] <BarneySS> Heya
[00:40] <ign0ramus> st23am, see here, under "Known Issues" http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.04-release
[00:40] <CyberDemon_> someone here work's with JTAG interface?
[00:40] <st23am> thanks ign0ramus:
[00:40] <ign0ramus> np
[00:41] <Guest55265> hi
[00:41] <Guest55265> How do I get back the window style of kile 2.0 for kile 2.1 ?
[00:42] <ign0ramus> st23am, this may help, too - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[00:42] <Makuseru> I seem to be having a problem. For  some reason, a few of my programs arent following my apperance settings. Does anyone know what would be caysing it to do this, and how i could fix it?
[00:42] <lockable> hi
[00:43] <lockable> What security software is recomended so i dont get hacked?
[00:43] <the1corrupted> I'm having trouble getting apache started.  I get this error: "(13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[00:43] <the1corrupted> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[00:43] <the1corrupted> Unable to open logs
[00:43] <ign0ramus> lockable, education against social engineering.  seriously.
[00:44] <the1corrupted> Anyone know how to change apache permissions?
[00:45] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, try here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/could-not-bind-to-address-<IP_ADDRESS>-405377/#post3516504
[00:46]  * beagleburt is away: Away at the moment
[00:50] <Makuseru> I seem to be having a problem. For  some reason, a few of my programs arent following my apperance settings. Does anyone know what would be caysing it to do this, and how i could fix it?
[00:50] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, what programs specifically?
[00:51] <Makuseru> ign0ramus: just Pidgin.
[00:51] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, and you're setting your appearance settings in System Settings?
[00:51] <Makuseru> Yes.
[00:52] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, Pidgin is a gtk app... that's most likely your reason.  it's not kde-native
[00:52] <Makuseru> Firefox does it also.
[00:52] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus, those commands didn't do much...  Mostly because they didn't work to begin with :P  But I'm also having a touch of trouble with WINE if you know anything about that.
[00:52] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, firefox is also gtk
[00:52] <Makuseru> Ive never had this problem with them before, i just reinstalled today and now its doing it.
[00:52] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, not a whole lot, but there are others in here too :)
[00:53] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, try getting the gtk-kde4 package... i forget the proper name.  to get kde styles and fonts in gtk apps
[00:53] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus, well it seems that WINE thinks it's c_drive is in home/user/Documents/.wine when it's actually in /home/user/.wine
[00:54] <Makuseru> ign0ramus: how would i find out the name of that package?
[00:55] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, google or someone here... if you give me some time, i can probably find it for you
[00:55] <Makuseru> !gtk
[00:55] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, ha - mine is the same...
[00:56] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus, did you try fixing it with a static link?
[00:56] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, no, i never even noticed until just now... i don't use it that much.  but i'm checking it now
[00:58] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, you could either link it, or it seems you can map drives if you go to Kmenu>Wine>Configure Wine>Drives
[00:59] <Makuseru> ign0ramus: is the package "gtk-qt-engine"?
[01:00] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus, but it seems they don't like you playing with their c drive
[01:00] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, i think it is... you can always uninstall if its not
[01:00] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, yeah, i'm noticing that too... :/
[01:00] <Makuseru> ign0ramus: It says its already the current version
[01:01] <NADIE__> bay
[01:03] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, do you have a "gtk styles and fonts" section in Appearance? (System Settings)?
[01:03] <Makuseru> .
[01:03] <Makuseru> Yes i di,.
[01:03] <Makuseru> do*
[01:03] <Guest55265> how do I get from kile2.1  http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1302/kile21.png   to the look of kile2.0   http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3150/kile20.png
[01:03] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, do you have gtk apps set to use kde style?
[01:03] <Makuseru> Yes.
[01:04] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, so what part of the appearance is not adhering?
[01:04] <Makuseru> Everything. It's just completely different. Borders, fonts, tabs, everything.
[01:05] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, what if you set them to user-defined settings? do those stick?
[01:05] <Makuseru> How do i do that?
[01:06] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, 'use another style' + 'use another font'
[01:06] <Makuseru> Where do i set that at?
[01:07] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, in 'gtk styles and fonts', which you just said you had
[01:07] <Makuseru> Oh, ok, i was misunderstanding you earlier.
[01:07] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, after making your settings, you'll have to restart the gtk app
[01:08] <Matisse> how do I get from kile2.1  http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1302/kile21.png   to the look of kile2.0   http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3150/kile20.png
[01:08] <Makuseru> ign0ramus: Alright, trying now.
[01:08] <ign0ramus> brb
[01:10] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Since you have WINE, you have windows apps too, right?
[01:10] <tkostov91> hi there I`ve got a big problem with my video graphic card fan
[01:10] <tkostov91> the card is ati radeon x1650 pro
[01:10] <tkostov91> with watercooler
[01:10] <AustLaw> having trouble installing the nvidia drivers
[01:10] <tkostov91> msi
[01:10] <tkostov91> and the temp is way too high about 90 in celsius
[01:11] <tkostov91> any idea how to change that
[01:11] <tkostov91> ?
[01:11] <AustLaw> when I click activate in the restricted hardware drivers, it just stalls at downloading and installing
[01:11] <tkostov91> it`s urgent, right now i`m working with that card
[01:12] <ign0ramus> tkostov91, i wish i knew, my Jaunty runs hot as hell, too :(
[01:12] <Makuseru> ign0ramus: This is what's happening. http://i41.tinypic.com/i6meyq.png Konversation is the program in the back, and Pidgin is the one in the front.
[01:13] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, ooh.. that is ugly.  what style did you set for gtk apps?
[01:14] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Since you have WINE and windows apps as well, there are certain fonts in them that I can barely read.  Is there a way to change them?
[01:14] <Makuseru> I tried Qt, and nothing changed, so i just changed it back to "use kde settings"
[01:15] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/Fonts
[01:18] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, hmm.. here's what i get, using the settings i recommended: http://i43.tinypic.com/309iiyc.jpg
[01:19] <Makuseru> Thats using what? Qt as the "gtk style"?
[01:19] <rodolfo_> hi
[01:19] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, QtCurve
[01:20] <Makuseru> I dont have that as an option.
[01:20] <Makuseru> Just Qt, and Raleigh.
[01:20] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, either way, i just remembered that you have to restart kde for it to take effect (ctrl+alt+bckspce)
[01:21] <Makuseru> Oh, alright.
[01:21] <Makuseru> Ill try that then, just a second.
[01:23] <lordofthepigs> Hello, Is it possible to tag files from Dolphin in KDE4?
[01:23] <ebin> hello?
[01:24] <ebin> so.. is there anybody out there?
[01:25] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, ...and?
[01:25] <Makuseru> No difference.
[01:26] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, hmm... if it helps, i have packages 'gtk2-engines-qtcurve' and 'kde-style-qtcurve' both installed
[01:26] <Makuseru> Ill try that now. And thanks for all the help.
[01:26] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, np.  hope that works for you. gtk burns my eyes! o_O
[01:26] <Makuseru> I know man, its just so ugly.
[01:27] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, i actually started with ubuntu, and still find gnome more stable, but i don't know how you can look at it all day :P
[01:27] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus How do you configure the root user?  I know I did it before, but have forgotten how...
[01:28] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, root user for what?
[01:28] <ign0ramus> apache?
[01:28] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus No.  Hard links.
[01:28] <Makuseru> ign0ramus: alright, set Qtcurve as the syle, restarting X now.
[01:28] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, kk
[01:28] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, a symlink won't work?
[01:28] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus I'm trying to make windows Fonts read from my linux fonts...
[01:29] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, i don't understand... you're trying to get windows to render linux fonts?
[01:29] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Not Windows really...  WINE.
[01:30] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, you've copied over new fonts to wine, and its not recognizing them?
[01:30] <Makuseru> ign0ramus: So much better.
[01:30] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, nice :)
[01:30] <Makuseru> Thanks alot man.
[01:30] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Copied?  No I wanted to link them to save space...
[01:30] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Plus if I got new fonts, it'd have to be updated...
[01:30] <ign0ramus> Makuseru, np.  anything to get away from gtk looks!
[01:31] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, and again, a symlink won't work in this situation?
[01:31] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Tried it.  It doesn't result in Fonts -> (link) /etc/fonts  more like Fonts/fonts
[01:32] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, crap.
[01:32] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, i try to avoid hard links... lemme dig up a good tutorial :P
[01:33] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus You can also use a hard link for those drive_c issues too XD
[01:33] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, what command(s) have you tried, and what errors (if any) did you get?
[01:33] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, from the refreshers, hard links use the same syntax as symlinks
[01:34] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus I trid "ln -d .../windows/Fonts /etc/fonts" and got "Operation not permitted"
[01:35] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, "-d" requires superuser
[01:35] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Right...  So how could I do it as root?
[01:35] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, "kdesudo .... "
[01:35] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, or less safely "sudo -i"
[01:36] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus sudo wouldn't allow it.
[01:36] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, so if you do "sudo -i", get a root shell, it's still not permitted?
[01:37] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus It appears I do..
[01:37] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, huh?
[01:37] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus But now it says "Fonts hard link not allowed for directory"
[01:37] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, oh... are you linking directories or files?
[01:38] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Directories... hence the -d
[01:38] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, give me a minute...
[01:41] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, well, apparently directories cannot be hardlinked in Linux without a workaround :/
[01:42] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/3300-hard-links-symbolic-links-what-i-need.html#post5902
[01:42] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, also: http://linuxgazette.net/issue93/tag/2.html
[01:44] <afeijo> its possible to install Google Earth or other google apps. with apt-get?
[01:46] <Lord_Drachenblut> afeijo: I believe if you have the partner repo enabled
[01:46] <Lord_Drachenblut> anyone ever have any dealings with wep protected apps and kde4?
[01:47] <ign0ramus> afeijo, medibuntu repos
[01:48] <afeijo> thanks
[01:50] <ign0ramus> afeijo, np
[01:50] <ign0ramus> at least for google earth... all the other apps, i'm not sure
[01:51] <nighteagle> hi
[02:00] <afeijo> how to fix invalid public key error on apt-get?
[02:00] <olrrai> add the key
[02:00] <afeijo> found
[02:01] <olrrai> what repository?
[02:01] <olrrai> give me the tring
[02:01] <olrrai> string
[02:02] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, you still here?
[02:03] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Yeah, fiddling with links right now
[02:03] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, well heres something:  do "sudo kate /usr/share/applications/wine-browsedrive.desktop"
[02:04] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, make line 14 (or whatever one looks like this) say THIS: "Exec=xdg-open $HOME/.wine/dosdevices/c:"
[02:04] <afeijo> olrrai: did you wrote that for me? I found the keys, and installed what I want, thanks
[02:04] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, save and exit.  NOW try to "Browse C: Drive"
[02:07] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus It didn't let me save
[02:08] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, huh?  if you're editing a file using sudo or kdesudo, you should be able to save
[02:09] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Well if I try the command you gave me, it says no protocol specified...
[02:11] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, ok, if you do "kdesudo dolphin" and navigate to the file, and open with kate, then can you successfully edit and save?
[02:11] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus No.
[02:12] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, what error do you get (if any)?
[02:12] <coleys> ign0ramus: How do I install themes to kvirc? =p
[02:12] <ign0ramus> coleys, don't know; i don't use kvirc :(
[02:13] <coleys> ign0ramus: Oh sorry! =0
[02:13] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus "The document could not be saved as it was not possible to write to blah-di-blah  Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available"
[02:13] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, that's weird.  what if you chmod the file to 770?
[02:14] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, and then try the original command above
[02:15] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus "cannot access wine-browserdrive.desktop : no such file or directory"
[02:16] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, what wine-related files exist in /usr/share/applications ?
[02:16] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, oh, its not "browser" its "browse"
[02:16] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, you can copy the command above
[02:17] <afeijo> why google keep suggesting ubuntu instead kubuntu? buuuh :)
[02:17] <ign0ramus> afeijo, google doesn't suggest anything except advertisements :)
[02:17] <the1corrupted> afreijo, because Ubuntu is more widely supported...
[02:18] <afeijo> indeed, but it sounds like kubuntu is wrong
[02:18] <afeijo> ign0ramus: lol
[02:18] <afeijo> damn!   Whenever I do "sudo kate wine-browsedrive.desktop" it says Kate: cannot connect to X server: 0.0
[02:19] <ign0ramus> afeijo, more people use Ubuntu, because gnome is the major DE pushed by Canonical, but I like kde much better
[02:19] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, hmmm... something is messed up, then.  let me see if we can fix that.  you should not have that error.
[02:20] <afeijo> ign0ramus: me too
[02:20] <afeijo> gnome visual sux
[02:20] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, for the time being, can you use kwrite?
[02:20] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus kwrite isn't a command...
[02:20] <afeijo> hey, why kubuntu 9 came with gnome and why the default system is gnome if user dont change it on the first login???
[02:21] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, you must not have it installed.  If you restart X, you should be able to get Kate working, or for the time being you can install and use kwrite
[02:21] <the1corrupted> afeijo It came with Gnome?  Do what?  As far as I know, it's KDE...
[02:21] <ign0ramus> afeijo, no that's wrong.  Kubuntu comes with KDE.  Ubuntu comes with GNOME
[02:22] <afeijo> the1corrupted: I installed from scratch last night
[02:22] <afeijo> ign0ramus: I thought it wierd too
[02:22] <ign0ramus> afeijo, if it was gnome, you installed ubuntu
[02:22] <the1corrupted> afeijo I installed it from scratch twice...
[02:22] <ign0ramus> afeijo, it's called *K*ubuntu because it ships with KDE
[02:22] <afeijo> ign0ramus: and how it have kde4 too?
[02:23] <ign0ramus> afeijo, KDE 4.2.2 ships by default in Jaunty (9.04)
[02:23] <afeijo> kubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[02:23] <kyle__> i dont even know what kde is
[02:23] <kyle__> but  i love my kubuntu
[02:23] <afeijo> how to remove gnome?
[02:23] <ign0ramus> afeijo, if you got it from the kubuntu web site, it will have KDE
[02:24] <afeijo> I am using kde, but I can login with gnome lol
[02:25] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus I do have kate installed though.. it's just crawling with this massive bug...
[02:25] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, you can try restarting X or installing kwrite
[02:26] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Cannot connect to x server.....  *punts the laptop*
[02:27] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, it's a very "windows" thing to say, but a reboot is probably your best bet
[02:28] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Lol... and people say the benefits of linux is how you *never* reboot... :P
[02:28] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, those people aren't using Kubuntu Jaunty! :P
[02:28] <the1corrupted> Should I use Jaunty?
[02:28] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Should I use Jaunty?
[02:28] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, i'm sticking with it for now... but jeeze, i didn't even have this kind of frustration when i was first learning
[02:29] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, that's up to you
[02:29] <ign0ramus> i was perfectly happy with very solid kde 3.5.9 setup, but wanted to try kde4, as kde3 is not really getting any attention (developing)
[02:30] <geek_> er, 3.5.10 was the last version ;)
[02:30] <ign0ramus> I have my frustrations, but I make my personal fixes, and the upgrades keep making it better and better, but it is still frustrating
[02:30] <ign0ramus> i have to use an RC-kernel just to get my Intel card under control
[02:32] <ign0ramus> I find myself restarting X or even rebooting a *lot* more than in kde3, but I'm not sure if it's KDE, my kernel, or Canonical's fault.
[02:35] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, "sudo kate /usr/share/applications/wine-browsedrive.desktop "
[02:35] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, do you still get the error?
[02:35] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus No.  Thankfully
[02:36] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus And it saved.
[02:36] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, and now try to Browse C: Drive
[02:36] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Somehow, it removed itself from the app menu
[02:36] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, what?
[02:37] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus In my wine on my kmenu, it shows Configure Wine, Uninstall Wine and Programs >
[02:37] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, no "Browse C: Drive"?
[02:37] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Nope.  It exorcised itself
[02:38] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, argh!  well, you can add it there yourself with the proper path
[02:38] <Yud_Zroc> what program supports *.img files properly
[02:38] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus I was always wondering how that was done....
[02:38] <Yud_Zroc> for burning
[02:39] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, you're on kde3?
[02:39] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus KDE4.2...  Got Kubuntu 9.04
[02:39] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, do you use traditional menu style or new kickoff style?
[02:40] <Yud_Zroc> any burning program that supports .img
[02:40] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus I wouldn't know the difference....
[02:40] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, it shouldn't matter.  Right-click Kmenu > Menu Editor
[02:41] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Yeah.
[02:41] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, navigate to the area of the menu you want to edit (in this case, the wine entries)
[02:41] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, "New Item"
[02:42] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, type "Browse C: Drive"
[02:42] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus I see where this goes.  :)
[02:42] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, easy-peasy!
[02:42] <ubuntu> hello tous les gens
[02:43] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, for "Command", use "xdg-open $HOME/.wine/dosdevices/c:"
[02:44] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, did you get it?
[02:44] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Complete with that shiny WINE icon.
[02:44] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, sweet :)  that was easy, right?
[02:45] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Now how do I link the friggin' Fonts files?  XP
[02:45] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus directories, I should say...
[02:45] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, possibly with a soft link, but if i were you, i'd just pick a couple fonts and copy them over
[02:45] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, how many fonts do you plan on using for wine?
[02:46] <lemon> hello,morning
[02:46] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, also, i've heard that wine fonts are more readable if you install msttcorefonts... don't know that for sure though.
[02:46] <the1corrupted> ign0ramus Well when I open PHPDesigner, it has these darn tiny fonts that I can barely read...  It seems to be default.
[02:46] <ign0ramus> the1corrupted, read your mind!
[02:58] <lemon> join #c
[02:58] <lemon> join #delphi
[03:01] <luis__> hello i have one problem with kubuntu
[03:01] <luis__> the resolution is not good for my laptop
[03:02] <luis__> someone knows a solution
[03:03] <luis__> ???
[03:10] <the1corrupted> luis__: Go to the kmenu, click "System Settings" and click "Display"
[03:11] <luis__> ok, now
[03:13] <LoreCaster> does anyone here have any experience with Synergy in 9.04?
[03:19] <superboy> hello
[03:19] <luis__> hello i have one problem with kubuntu
[03:19] <luis__> the resolution is not good for my laptop
[03:19] <luis__> someone knows a solution
[03:20] <embraceunity_> yea
[03:20] <embraceunity_> System Settings -> Display
[03:20] <luis__> the 2 resolutions r not good
[03:20] <luis__> i think i need to install something
[03:20] <luis__> dont know what
[03:21] <superboy> how do i upgrade to the newest kde version
[03:23] <embraceunity_> luis_: go to konsole
[03:23] <superboy>  hello
[03:23] <superboy> ;
[03:23] <embraceunity_> type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:23] <superboy> what does that nana /etc do?
[03:24] <superboy> im trying to uupgrade kdeto the newest version
[03:24] <embraceunity_> then under the "Screen" section try changing it as specified here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/xorg.conf-custom-screen-resolution-444052/
[03:24] <embraceunity_> superboy: I was talking to luis, sorry
[03:24] <superboy> oh okay its okay
[03:24] <embraceunity_> to upgrade to the newest version of kde, you just need to go to Adept... click the sources tab
[03:24] <embraceunity_> and click Edit Sources
[03:24] <superboy> i got exited
[03:25] <embraceunity_> then go to Third Party Sources
[03:25] <embraceunity_> and add this source: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[03:26] <embraceunity_> that is assuming you have the newest version of Kubuntu
[03:27] <superboy> embraceunity thanks so muchfor ur help bro
[03:27] <embraceunity_> sure :)
[03:30] <superboy> i ony have two souurce in my third-party when i installed kubuntuuu dont i suppose to havve 4 availible sources?
[03:32] <embraceunity_> Third Party sources are sources besides the official ubuntu sources
[03:32] <embraceunity_> if you want the latest and greatest stuff, or really obscure stuff, you get a third party source
[03:33] <embraceunity_> like the latest version of WINE or something
[03:33] <superboy>  where do i locate third partie stuff?
[03:34] <superboy> what source gives me wine?
[03:34] <embraceunity_> superboy: it is usually on the websites for whatever software you are looking for
[03:34] <embraceunity_> http://www.winehq.org/site/download
[03:34] <embraceunity_> that is WINE's website
[03:34] <embraceunity_> if you click Ubuntu, it gives you the source
[03:35] <embraceunity_> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt jaunty main
[03:35] <superboy> how so theres no specific site that gives uuu source with listings u kinda got to figure out what it has and then look for it?
[03:35] <embraceunity_> a new WINE version came out today, and should be packaged for ubuntu soon
[03:36] <embraceunity_> well, the official ubuntu sources have all you need
[03:36] <embraceunity_> more than you could ever use
[03:36] <embraceunity_> but sometimes that isn't enough for some of us
[03:36] <embraceunity_> lol
[03:36] <mermshaus> yeah, the minority of Eclipse users for instance. ;)
[03:37] <embraceunity_> i was speaking to a newbie... haha
[03:37] <embraceunity_> but yea
[03:40] <Zengol> Could someone tell me how to install mp3 support?
[03:40] <embraceunity_> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[03:40] <embraceunity_> that should do it, zengol
[03:41] <embraceunity_> err
[03:41] <Zengol> Thank you.
[03:41] <embraceunity_> sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[03:41] <Zengol> Yeah, that is what it was asking for.
[03:42] <Zengol> Say's that it has no installation candidate.
[03:45] <ken__> Zengol, bring ffmpeg up on adept and see if it will install from there.
[03:46] <mermshaus> Doesn't the kubuntu-restricted-extras package contain stuff like MP3 support?
[03:46] <embraceunity_> yea, and a bunch of shit like sun's version of java which is not necessary anymore
[03:47] <page_> lmfao
[03:47] <page_> ?
[03:47] <embraceunity_> the icedtea implementation on ubuntu is all you need
[03:47] <ken__> libxine1-ffmpeg should install with the players, like juk
[03:48] <embraceunity_> icedtea is installed by default now
[03:48] <embraceunity_> it is fully open source, unlike sun's version which still has lingering closed parts
[03:48] <luis__> embra i dont understand anything of how to change my reso
[03:48] <luis__> there is not another way for the 1400?
[03:49] <Zengol> It automatically installed this time.
[03:49] <Zengol> No clue what was wrong but oh well.
[03:49] <Zengol> Thank you anyway guy's.
[03:49] <page_> hey i was woundering if anybody had any info on stable secondlife viewers for kubuntu w/ kde4
[03:49] <embraceunity_> lusi: look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[03:49] <ken__> what player are you using
[03:49] <mermshaus> embraceunity_: last time I tried the open version of Java, Eclipse was unuseable. But that's been two years ago or so.
[03:49] <Zengol> Amarok 1.2 i believe.
[03:49] <Zengol> I'm in Intrepid.
[03:50] <embraceunity_> mermshaus: it is much better now
[03:50] <Zengol> My laptop did not get along very well with the new one.
[03:50] <ken__> for just music i prefer juk, does a good job
[03:51] <Zengol> Now, how would i go about getting java?
[03:52] <Zengol> Err, well. How would i go about getting Java and Flash for Firefox?
[03:52] <ken__> problem with java, so far I have not been able to get the games on pogo.com to play for my wife. has anyone found this and what is the fix. It states that the java needs installed.
[03:53] <embraceunity_> i think it might work better on firefox
[03:53] <embraceunity_> konqueror doesnt handle plugins that well
[03:53] <embraceunity_> i believe Java should be installed by default with ubuntu
[03:54] <embraceunity_> flash needs flashplugin-nonfree
[03:55] <ken__> I have tried with about 6 browsers. I have tried to install the java they say they need but have failed.
[03:55] <Zengol> Is that under adept?
[03:55] <mermshaus> I think you can do "java -version" in a terminal to see which version you've installed.
[03:55] <mermshaus> This work's at least with Sun's Java.
[03:55] <embraceunity_> flashplugin-nonfree is in adept yes
[03:55] <mermshaus> *works, doh
[03:56] <Zengol> Would it be in Kubuntu restricted extras?
[03:56] <Zengol> I don't see a flashplugin-nonfree anywhere.
[03:56] <embraceunity_> yea
[03:57] <Zengol> Ok, kool.
[03:57] <maxxou> hello
[03:58] <Zengol> Hmm.
[03:58] <Zengol> Long download.
[03:58] <mermshaus> hi maxxou
[03:58] <amstrongclark> hi
[03:58] <embraceunity_> ken_: try sudo apt-get install icedtea*   (including the asterics)
[03:58] <nathalie> hi!
[03:59] <embraceunity_> ken_: also sudo apt-get install icedtea6-plugin
[03:59] <maxxou> i have a probleme with kubuntu 9.04 amd my raid 5 dmraid see my array but don't active any partition?
[03:59] <amstrongclark> who is using kubuntu90.4?
[03:59] <ken__> I have icedtea installed, let me go to pogo and I'll get the file name they are asking for.
[03:59] <nathalie> who chat?
[03:59] <embraceunity_> sorry ken, gotta go.... hope you get it figured out
[03:59] <amstrongclark> who is using kubuntu90.4? i have a problom
[04:00] <amstrongclark> who is using kubuntu90.4? i have a problom
[04:00] <mermshaus> amstrongclark: I guess most of the poeple here are using 9.04. You need to be more precise. :)
[04:03] <amstrongclark> I can't update
[04:03] <amstrongclark> update
[04:03] <maxxou> amstrongclark: the server is probably down
[04:04] <ken__> http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?host=java.com&returnPage=http://www.pogo.com/misc/sun-java/success.jsp&locale=en_US&brand=pogo&footer=club
[04:04] <amstrongclark> the problem is package install
[04:05] <mermshaus> amstrongclark: which package manager do you use and does it show an error message?
[04:05] <ken__> This is the add for the java pogo says it needs.
[04:05] <amstrongclark> get 60 of 70 is stop
[04:06] <mermshaus> ken__: Can you run "java -version" in a terminal?
[04:06] <ken__> I don't know the cammand.
[04:07] <Zengol> Was KDE created by Canonical?
[04:07] <amstrongclark> who can telnet me to help me?
[04:07] <wirechief> ii  java-common                                0.30ubuntu4
[04:07] <maxxou> !paste
[04:07] <mermshaus> ken__: try "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre"
[04:08] <mermshaus> ken__: That should install Java 6 on your computer.
[04:08] <amstrongclark> i   无法获得锁 /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 资源临时不可用)
[04:08] <amstrongclark> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:08] <amstrongclark> amstrongclark@Amstrongclark:~$ 无法获
[04:09] <amstrongclark> the result
[04:09] <maxxou> my problem http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/167391/
[04:10] <maxxou> sorry http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/167392/
[04:10] <ken__> mermshaus, i have that installed already. the only place I can't get to work is pogo. I have tried since 8.10 now using 9.04
[04:11] <cjae> who is using kpackage with kubuntu 9.04?
[04:12] <ken__> Installing a sun java 6 pluging now. maybe this will work.
[04:12] <the1corrupted> I have a quick question: can you configure amarok to execute shortcut-keys while minimized?
[04:12] <Zengol> Does Amarok 2 run better than 1.0?
[04:12] <amstrongclark>  无法获得锁 /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 资源临时不可用)
[04:12] <amstrongclark> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:12] <amstrongclark> amstrongclark@Amstrongclark:~$ 无法获
[04:13] <Zengol> Close Adept.
[04:13] <the1corrupted> Zengol, if it's of any consequence, I haven't had any issues with Amarok 2.
[04:13] <Zengol> I've been thinking about giving Amarok 2 a try.
[04:13] <kaci> a
[04:14] <kaci> i've installed 9.04 and kubuntu-restricted-extras.  when i open firefox to a web page i want to use, it says i need to download the "Java Runtime Environment" plugin.  I already have sun-java-jre6 installed.  what do i need to do?  Kubuntu 9.04 32 bit
[04:14] <cjae> May I remove kpackage and install synaptic instead? Kpackage is not ever asking for password and I am not cool with this
[04:18] <mermshaus> ken__: Yeah, that seems to do the trick. I tried "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin" which seems to work
[04:19] <mermshaus> ken__: Playin' Poppit right now.
[04:25] <ken__> mermshaus, it works...at least in firefox. I had all the javas installed but not the plugin one. thanks
[04:26] <mermshaus> ken__: no problem. guess you figured it out on your own. :)
[04:28] <ken__> I can't believe i missed that for soo long. getting old i guess
[04:31] <jimmy51_home> mermshaus: that did it
[04:31] <jimmy51_home> (i was on my wife's machine)
[04:31] <jimmy51_home> sun-java6-plugin + a restart of firefox
[04:32] <mermshaus> jimmy51_home: good to hear. seems to be a popular issue tonight. :)
[04:32] <jimmy51_home> hehe
[04:32] <jimmy51_home> she needed it for facebook photo uploading ease ... or something
[04:32] <jimmy51_home> night night
[04:35] <cjae> so nobody in here uses kubuntu 9.04 and kpackage?
[04:35] <nelly> hey how do I know if I have video drivers
[04:39] <cjae> brb
[04:42] <ken__> I use kpackage, works fine for upgrades. have had no problems so far.
[04:42] <mermshaus> No broken or held back updates? ^^
[04:43] <ken__> I have one held file. don't know why.
[04:46] <ken__> gwenview-4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid, this is the blocked update.
[04:46] <david_> How do you change directory permissions from Dolphin? I can't seem to get the to stick.
[04:47] <cjae> so anyone using kpackage with kubuntu 9.04
[04:47] <mermshaus> Do you guys mean KPackageKit when you talk about "kpackage"?
[04:48] <the1corrupted> david_: Try doing more tasks from the Terminal...  Dolphin's there for conveience.
[04:48] <the1corrupted> david_: Convenience**
[04:48] <david_> You mean 'chown
[04:48] <david_>  is more convenient?
[04:50] <david_> So how do I set permissions from Dolphin?
[04:51] <amstrongclark> my system don't reload source
[04:51] <mermshaus> david_: right click -> properties -> permissions ?
[04:52] <amstrongclark> often stop when update
[04:52] <amstrongclark> how i do?
[04:52] <david_> I can bring up the permissions, and set 'Group' and 'Others' to on the 'Permissions' tab to
[04:53] <david_> 'Can View and Modify Content'... but the don't stick.
[04:53] <david_> That is, the property doesn't change.
[04:55] <mermshaus> david_: That's kind of strange. I'm sure that shouldn't happen.
[04:57] <david_> I'm trying to back up my machine so I can install Ubuntu. I'm backing up to a USB drive.
[04:58] <david_> Only the directories are created with read permission for others, so it's worthless - I can't back up to the directories because they're read only from other user directories.
[04:58] <ken__> mermshaus, I went to adept and it installed the new gwenview. kpackagekit now does not show the blocked upgrade. must be a bug.
[04:59] <mermshaus> ken__: Try to update via "sudo apt-get update" or do a new start or something... If that doesn't work, I have no idea. KPackageKit is strange.
[05:00] <ken__> do you mean to reinstall kpackage.
[05:02] <mermshaus> no. but if kpackagekit shows blocked packages or something, I always try to update via apt-get which works most of the time.
[05:03] <mermshaus> I had to to do a "apt-get dist-upgrade" a few hours ago to install a new linux-headers package because it was blocked in KPackageKit.
[05:03] <mermshaus> Don't know if that's a good idea, though.
[05:03] <ken__> I understand what you are saying now. I thought it was blocking do to reasons beyound my control. I will now just use apt get when it happens'
[05:11] <tanjir> since jaunty launched, i can't update my 8.10... it always says there is no update available... is it right? :-/
[05:11] <cjae> yeah for apt-get install --reinstall kpackage
[05:11] <cjae> good beans
[05:12]  * cjae remembers about coffee
[05:13] <tanjir> ok
[05:13] <cjae> tanjir: that was thinking out loud
[05:14] <cjae> tanjir: I did a clean install of 9.04 but since there was major changes in 8.10 to 9.04 it might be holding you back
[05:15] <cjae> although yoy should be able to see that with google somewhere
[05:15] <cjae> you*
[05:15] <tanjir> cjae: humm.... i thought i need to change my repo... yah, i can google :P
[05:19] <cjae> for example I have xubuntu installed on another box of mine and it recommends me not to upgrade to 9.04  on there due to fglrx incompatibilities (ati driver) tanjir
[05:21] <tanjir> ohh.. i am still in interpid... and not getting any update.
[05:24] <cjae> anyone know how to install the keyring for kde 4.2.3?
[05:38] <cjae> sudo wget http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/Release.gpg -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[05:38] <cjae> ??
[05:41] <PhrkOnLsh> what packages other than nvidia-glx-96 do I need to install to enable KDe desktop effects on 9.04?
[05:45] <Zengol> Can someone help me install Amarok 2?
[05:45] <PhrkOnLsh> Zengol: apt-get install amarok
[05:45] <PhrkOnLsh> sudo apt-get install amarok
[05:46] <PhrkOnLsh> Zengol: sudo adept installer
[05:46] <Zengol> That would allow me to get Amarok 2 in Intrepid?
[05:46] <PhrkOnLsh> is intrepid kde4?
[05:46] <PhrkOnLsh> then yes.
[05:46] <Zengol> Thank you.
[05:46] <PhrkOnLsh> mhm :)
[05:47] <Zengol> I appreciate your assistance.
[05:48] <PhrkOnLsh> anytime, Ahadiel
[05:48] <PhrkOnLsh> er
[05:48] <PhrkOnLsh> sorry
[05:48] <PhrkOnLsh> anytime Zengol
[05:49] <Zengol> No luck.
[05:49] <Zengol> It say's i have the newest version, haha.
[05:49] <PhrkOnLsh> amarok --version
[05:50] <PhrkOnLsh> rrix@wanton:~$ amarok --version
[05:50] <PhrkOnLsh> Qt: 4.5.0
[05:50] <PhrkOnLsh> KDE: 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2)
[05:50] <PhrkOnLsh> Amarok: 2.0.2
[05:50] <Zengol> It is 1.4.10
[05:50] <PhrkOnLsh> :/ wierd
[05:50] <Zengol> I believe it is because i do not have teh authority to install it.
[05:51] <PhrkOnLsh> sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4
[05:51] <Zengol> Ahh.
[05:51] <PhrkOnLsh> er that is in mulitverse or universe i think.
[05:51] <Zengol> So whatever program i really want i can usually type in sudo apt-get install then the software that i want?
[05:52] <Zengol> I believe i have both activated.
[05:53] <Zengol> I shall try.
[05:53] <Zengol> Will it affect anything if i already have Amarok 1 running?
[05:54] <cjae> for anyone who cares http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-users/2009-05/msg01551.html
 What is with the cookie?
[05:56] <cjae> Zengol: what
[05:56] <driestrybou> hi everyone, is there a way to change the start menu on 9.04?
[05:57] <PhrkOnLsh> driestrybou: you have a choice between kickoff the standard launcher and lancelot
[05:57] <PhrkOnLsh> kickoff is the default, right click it and you can switch to classic menu, or you can add lancelot as a plasmoid
[05:57] <driestrybou> thanks, i'll go have a  look at it!
[05:59]  * cjae is getting fuckin sick of ppl asking questions and then not elaborating on them when asked back
 New Amarok 2 is installed and it look's fantastic. Thank you again for your help.
[06:00] <Zengol> cjae: The link you sent gave me a cookie warning.
[06:00] <Zengol> cjae: Quit havin a shit fit.
[06:01] <cjae> Zengol: I have been asked over five times today things to that nature and no response when I ask what they mean, so for coming of the handle
[06:01] <cjae> so sorry*
[06:01] <cjae> Zengol: many sites give cookies
[06:01] <Zengol> cjae: A cookie is a common thing that is installed or ran in the background of your web client, sometime's it can be a virus.
[06:02] <Zengol> Yeah, well this is the first time i've recieved a malicious warning in Linux from a cookie.
[06:02] <cjae> Zengol: your running lin anyway are you not
[06:02] <Zengol> Don't matter.
[06:02] <Zengol> I am on an Intel processor.
[06:02] <Zengol> I am succeptible to crap like that.
[06:03] <Zengol> If i was on a mac i would have gladly accepted the cookie, haha.
[06:03] <cjae> Zengol: how can you handle a web browser that prompts for cookies
[06:04] <cjae> what do you mean on an intel proc
[06:04] <cjae> mac have intel procs now
[06:05] <PhrkOnLsh> Zengol: enjoy
[06:05] <cjae> run no script
[06:05] <PhrkOnLsh> guys chill :)
[06:06] <Zengol> I am back.
[06:06] <Zengol> Oh, on that subject.
[06:06] <cjae> your saying intel procs are more susceptible than others
[06:06] <Zengol> When the Intel proc's were implemented into mac's they had an outbreak of pc based viruses in mac's.
[06:07] <cjae> oh I never knew that
[06:07] <Zengol> A virus isn't alway's just an invalid scripting in a text document.
[06:07] <cjae> this is good to know, keep going if you like
[06:07] <Zengol> Viruses come in a lot of form's.
[06:07] <Zengol> Such as a Burner virus.
[06:08] <Zengol> It's what i call them, don't remember the real form.
[06:08] <Zengol> A Burner virus can cause damage to hardware.
[06:08] <Zengol> As an example.
[06:08] <Zengol> You open a ReadMe file that has a corrupted scripting imbedded in it.
[06:08] <Zengol> It has now changed the voltage of your USB port.
[06:09] <Zengol> That USB port is now useless because it has been blown out, haha.
[06:09] <Zengol> Burn's out your hardware.
[06:09] <zaapiel> how do i see a list of services that run on boot?
[06:09] <zaapiel> any gui for it?
[06:10] <cjae> Zengol: ok that really happens, wow  would explain a lot of dead usb ports :(
[06:10] <Zengol> =P
[06:10] <Zengol> More than that can be of outcome.
[06:11] <Zengol> Such as say, what you know as overclocking.
[06:11] <cjae> well I had a windows box today damn near blow up in my face
[06:11] <Zengol> Overclocking is change in firmware for your processor that changes the speed of it.
[06:11] <cjae> fixing for a friend
[06:11] <cjae> right
[06:11] <cjae> sorry for interrupting
[06:11] <Zengol> Same thing with a bad virus.
[06:12] <Zengol> Oh it's kool, i was reading, haha.
[06:12] <Zengol> I was curious as what you meant.
[06:12] <PhrkOnLsh> Zengol: readme files aren't scripted.
[06:12] <Zengol> They can be. =)
[06:13] <PhrkOnLsh> oh right
[06:13] <Zengol> I could explain it easily.
[06:13] <PhrkOnLsh> I forgot about those readme.py files
[06:13] <PhrkOnLsh> Zengol: i'll meet you in #defocus
[06:13] <Zengol> Nah.
[06:14] <cjae> well it acted like he spilt something in it, but it made a lot of horrible noise that seemed to come from the pc speaker or dial up modem
[06:14] <Zengol> Haha.
[06:14] <Zengol> Sound's wonderful.
[06:14] <PhrkOnLsh> Does anyone have an idea as to why my nvidia card refuses to start kde desktop effects even though glxinfo says all the necessities are supported?
[06:15] <Zengol> I cannot talk in Defocus.
[06:15] <Zengol> I get an Error 404.
[06:15] <Zengol> one sec.
[06:15] <Zengol> I think i know how to activate DRI.
[06:16] <Zengol> glxinfo | grep rendering
[06:16] <Zengol> type that into your Terminal.
[06:16] <Zengol> If it does not go well, if you have the availability switch your composition over to Xrender.
[06:17] <PhrkOnLsh> i have direct rendering enabled
[06:17] <Zengol> I have had problem's with the Effect's myself.
 What is the offtopic kubuntu channel?
[06:18] <PhrkOnLsh> jockey says that it's using the proprietary nvidia driver...
[06:18] <PhrkOnLsh> and I know it's the right version
[06:19] <Zengol> I use the Intel driver that came with mine, and i know Intel suck's, so you should be swingin along teh way with an Nvidia.
[06:19] <PhrkOnLsh> so i thought
[06:26] <Makuseru> Hi, how can I add another gtk style to the menu in the "apperance settings"?
[06:32] <zaapiel> palm pre june 5th it seemd
[06:33] <zaapiel> looks tight
[06:33] <edoceo> How can I get the KDE panel to span across both of my monitors?
[06:38] <MariachiElf_> Can anyone recommend a good set of packages to get a dev environment started with KDE?
[06:39] <MariachiElf_> I'd like to play with KOffice but am piecemeal installing a bunch of stuff as it fails
[06:39] <MariachiElf_> play = hack on/build from svn
[06:40] <andrew____> Good afternoon.  Is anyone available to help me figure out how to fix a font-rendering issue with my Plasma Desktop?  I'm using Kubuntu 9.04, KDE 4.2
[06:44] <superboy> wheres all the third-party "Security testing" source's at everyone.....oH YeA WHAt uP KuBuNTu PeEPs
[06:47] <les_> trouble configuring a mobility m7 (radeon mobility 7500)
[06:50] <superboy> wheres all the third-party "Security testing" source's at everyone.....oH YeA WHAt uP KuBuNTu PeEPs
[07:11] <Zengol> Is there not an Equalizer in Amarok 2?
[07:17] <Serd0tad0> l
[07:24] <omar> l
[07:32] <david_> I'm trying to back up my computer so I can reinstall Ubuntu, but I'm having a *ton* of problems.
[07:32] <david_> The 'keep' backup program creates read-only files that I can't remove (even as su) or even change permissions on.
[07:33] <david_> The files I've backed up with 'Keep' can't be restored.
[07:33] <Originooo> hey, firefox hangs while playin flash-movies on youtube. seems like an soundcrash, because after restarting firefox i have no sound. what can i do?
[07:34] <superboy> sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.51-pkg2.run says it wont run how do i install the driver for my videocard
[07:35] <superboy> and my x desktop effects won qwork
[07:35] <Originooo> you need to stop X-Server
[07:36] <superboy> but if i stop x-server wont my screen go blank?
[07:37] <david_> Yes, your screen will go blank. He's saying that X is borked, and needs to be restarted.
[07:38] <david_> I get the same thing. If I try to restart Firefox, it claims it's still running.
[07:38] <david_> You could also kill the Firefox process and not restart X, but I don't recall how to do that in Kubuntu.
[07:39] <Originooo> david_: i killed firefox, i restarted X but stil no sound. only rebooting system works.....i think there is a plugin oder alsa problem
[07:40] <david_> Ouch. :-(
[07:40] <david_> I've had a lot of problems with Firefox and YouTube lately, it's *very* flakey. I don't have any interesting plugins or video drivers, either.
[07:41] <superboy> sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.51-pkg2.run says it wont run how do i install the driver for my videocard
[07:42] <Originooo> rebooot your system in runlevel 3 ;)  then you habe no X enabled...but i never done that in kubuntu
[07:43] <Originooo> but the best way i think is to look into teh wiki pages
[07:44] <david_> Has anyone used the 'keep' backup tool? I can make backups, but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to restore anything. There's no help file for it, either. Searching for 'keep' is an exercise in futility.
[07:45] <andrew____> Good afternoon.  Is anyone available to help me figure out how to fix a font-rendering issue with my Plasma Desktop?  I'm using Kubuntu 9.04, KDE 4.2
[07:50] <bb__> hey folks
[07:52] <Originooo> ok, i think its non-free problem :)
[08:00] <wizardslovak> anyone is using ufw?
[08:29] <superboy> how do uu find out what architucture ur uusing huh?
[08:31] <rsthree> at a terminal: uname -a
[08:34] <superboy> it says x86_64 what architecture is that 32 bit or 64 bit?
[08:34] <geek_> 64
[08:34] <rsthree> that would be 64-bit
[08:35] <superboy> i cant find syntac pakage manager
[08:35] <Mamarok> superboy: you mean synaptic?
[08:35] <eagles0513875> mornign and bye Mamarok
[08:35] <superboy> yra wathchamakall-it
[08:36] <Mamarok> superboy: English please
[08:36] <superboy> cant find "synaptic"pakage manager
[08:36] <Mamarok> superboy: are you using Kubuntu?
[08:36] <geek_> its not installed by defualt on kubuntu 9.04
[08:37] <wizardslovak> hmmm
[08:37] <Mamarok> bye eagles0513875
[08:37] <superboy> yea i have kubuntu 9.04 jaunty
[08:37] <wizardslovak> i just unzipped file and run ./configure
[08:37] <Mamarok> superboy: then you have kpackagekit in the system settings
[08:38] <wizardslovak> i am still in same folder , when i type make  it says "no target specified and no makefile found" how come?
[08:38] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: what are you trying to do?
[08:38] <wizardslovak> install gtk
[08:38] <geek_> wizardslovak: read the readme first ;)
[08:38] <wizardslovak> yea
[08:38] <wizardslovak> i am following it
[08:38] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: install gtk? why? it's in the repos
[08:38] <wizardslovak> no
[08:39] <Mamarok> and yu don't need gtk in KDE
[08:39] <wizardslovak> i need to run one software which need gtk
[08:39] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: search for gtk+ in the package manager...
[08:39] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: gtk+ is the development framework beind Gnome, so you need Gnome libraries
[08:40] <wizardslovak> oooooooo
[08:40] <Mamarok> but you certainly do not have to install it from source
[08:40] <superboy> in kpackage how do i look at packages that arent installed
[08:40] <wizardslovak> packet manager didnt find nothing
[08:40] <Mamarok> superboy: there is a searchbox on top, type the name of the software you are looking for
[08:40] <Mamarok> then check the package icon on the right which shows you if it is installed or not
[08:41] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: what application are you trying to run that needs gtk?
[08:41] <wizardslovak> Mamarok: perlmon
[08:41] <superboy> what if i dont know what im looking for just want to browse for apps that i might find use ful or do i have to use adept for that?
[08:42] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: the package you are looking for would by libmon-perl then?
[08:42] <Mamarok> superboy: then use the filter instead of the search box
[08:43] <wizardslovak> when i read readme oon perlmon iit says it need perl and gtk
[08:43] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: there is a libmon-perl package in the repos
[08:43] <superboy> mamarok thanks and my fault for these naive questions hope im not bothering kuz im new
[08:44] <Mamarok> which is a library for mon using perl
[08:44] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: but if you are not developping for the kernel I can't imagine what you would need that for...
[08:44] <Mamarok> superboy: that's what this support channel is for :)
[08:45] <wizardslovak> i just wanted to run that software
[08:45] <superboy> thats why im sticking to KUBUNTU and not wacki vista
[08:45] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: do you know what it does?
[08:46] <wizardslovak> its something like cpu-z for linux
[08:46] <wizardslovak> shows all info about system
[08:46] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: <you don't need that, it's a kernel tool for developers
[08:47] <wizardslovak> ok
[08:47] <wizardslovak> one more question
[08:47] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: try to use the cpu monitor widget
[08:47] <wizardslovak> not in repos
[08:47] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: it's installed by default in Kubuntu 9.04
[08:48] <wizardslovak> no
[08:48] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: go to your desktop, right click and then use "Add widget..."
[08:48] <wizardslovak> i am searching for it
[08:48] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: system monitor...
[08:50] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: if it's not there, install the package plasma-widget-simplemonitor
[08:50] <wizardslovak> ok i see
[08:50] <wizardslovak> thank you
[08:51] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: you are welcome :)
[08:52] <wizardslovak> how can i resize trashcan?
[08:52] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: what do you mean, resize? in the panel?
[08:53] <wizardslovak> i mean resize for couple more MBs
[08:53] <Mamarok> why not empty it?
[08:53] <wizardslovak> i did
[08:53] <Mamarok> and the trashcan is dynamic in size
[08:55] <SteBo> wizardslovak: Right click on the trash icon and open the Settings dialog.
[08:55] <Mamarok> maximum size is 10% of your partition
[08:55] <Mamarok> SteBo: thx :)
[08:55] <Mamarok> 10% by default that is
[08:56] <SteBo> :)
[08:56] <wizardslovak> ok i resize for 14%
[08:56] <wizardslovak> btw
[08:56] <wizardslovak> i got kubuntu dual boot with xp
[08:56] <wizardslovak> i want to remove xp and use all pc for kubuntu only
[08:56] <superboy_> how do i install adobe flash plugin for 64 bit kuubuntu 9.04
[08:56] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: many people have
[08:57] <wizardslovak> do i have to format all pc and install kubuntu only or is there other way?
[08:57] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: you need to run the partition tool
[08:57] <Mamarok> no, you cna only format what you want, but you need to know the partition number
[08:57] <wizardslovak> hmmm
[08:57] <wizardslovak> so better just format it
[08:58] <Mamarok> superboy: it's flashplugin-nonfree
[08:58] <wizardslovak> is there somethign so i can back up settings?
[08:58] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: no, why? you don't have to eras a running system for that!
[08:58] <Mamarok> erase* even
[08:58] <superboy_> do i get the plugin from adept or kpackage
[08:59] <wizardslovak> i think  i will go with 64 bit version
[08:59] <hyper__ch> wow, running a fully encrypted eeePC with Kubuntu Jaunty and the array kernel and it runs really fine :) I just have to get used to that touchpad :)
[08:59] <wizardslovak> how is it with updates for 64bits?
[08:59] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: well, then you will have to reinstall, you can not just upgrade from 32 to 64 bit
[08:59] <wizardslovak> i know
[08:59] <hyper__ch> good morning Mamarok
[08:59] <wizardslovak> how is it with updates?
[09:00] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: do you have a selarate partition for your /home?
[09:00] <wizardslovak> are there any cons?
[09:00] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: as I said, that is not possible, in no OS
[09:00] <Mamarok> hi hyper__ch :)
[09:00] <Mamarok> separate...
[09:00] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: what do you mean, any cons?
[09:00] <wizardslovak> i dont mean update from 32 to 64 without reinstalling
[09:01] <wizardslovak> i mean software updates
[09:01] <superboy_> do i get the flash-plugin from adept or kpackage
[09:01] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: no, impossible, no system or OS allowas that
[09:01] <wizardslovak> once i will install 64 bit
[09:01] <wizardslovak> jeez
[09:01] <hyper__ch> wizardslovak: the only negative thing is the adobe flash plugin
[09:01] <Mamarok> superboy: doesn't matter, both should show it
[09:01] <hyper__ch> wizardslovak: you'll need to install that manually
[09:01] <Mamarok> hyper__ch: you are adressing the wrong person...
[09:01] <wizardslovak> when i install 64 bit will i have problems with auto updates or not?
[09:01] <SteBo> wizardslovak: not
[09:01] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: no, why?
[09:01] <hyper__ch> Mamarok: am I? ok :)
[09:02] <wizardslovak> thats what i am was trying to ask you
[09:02] <hyper__ch> (it's still early morning)
[09:02] <superboy_> its still nighty
[09:02] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: I was asking you previousley, do you have a separate partition for your /home?
[09:02] <rsthree> hyper__ch: the package flashplugin-nonfree should automatically install nspluginwrapper and other necessary libs for flash in a 64-bit ubuntu installation
[09:02] <superboy_> whats more eficient uTorrent or Ktorrent?
[09:03] <rsthree> hyper__ch: but, yes, if you want the native 64-bit plugin, i guess you do need to do that manually yet
[09:03] <hyper__ch> rsthree: well, that one does not work well at all....
[09:03] <Mamarok> superboy: ktorrent works fine
[09:03] <wizardslovak> no
[09:03] <hyper__ch> rsthree: the flash 10 64bit plugin is much superior
[09:03] <Mamarok> why woulod one by more efficient than the other?
[09:03] <wizardslovak> Mamarok: no i dont
[09:03] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: then you will have to backup your system
[09:03] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: and make a fresh install
[09:04] <wizardslovak> so when i move to 64 bit , i wont have any problems with updates or software
[09:04] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: then make sure to install /home on a separate partition so you don't loose it again
[09:04] <wizardslovak> oo
[09:04] <wizardslovak> ok
[09:04] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: why do you repeat your question? we already answered that, didn't we?
[09:04] <wizardslovak> just want to make sure
[09:05] <hyper__ch> wizardslovak: how much free disk space have you got and how big is your home folder?
[09:05] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: there is no difference in updating a 32bit or a 64bit installation, why should there be one?
[09:05] <Mamarok> it's just that the kernel and the package are compiled against 64bit instead of 32
[09:05] <wizardslovak> nnever tried and dont want to get into problems
[09:05] <wizardslovak> well all my kubuntu system is 8gb big lol
[09:05] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: there is no reason, but make a separate /home :)
[09:06] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: what is the size of your harddisk?
[09:06] <Mamarok> the total size I mean
[09:06] <wizardslovak> 160gb
[09:06] <Mamarok> wow, and you only have 8 gb for Linux?
[09:06] <wizardslovak> yea
[09:06] <wizardslovak> it was just for learning
[09:06] <Mamarok> and you are sure you want to erase your xp system?
[09:07] <wizardslovak> yes
[09:07] <hyper__ch> Aisyu has written a great guide on how to create a seperate /home folder after installation
[09:07] <wizardslovak> all files i got on external drive anyways
[09:07] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: make a backup of your data first then!
[09:07] <superboy_> theres a hiddin partition i cant delete called "X:Boot" aand i dont need it since i got grub any suggestions?
[09:07] <Mamarok> hyper__ch: he wants to switch to 64 bit anyway...
[09:07] <hyper__ch> supert0nes: can you pastebin the following:   sudo fdisk -l
[09:08] <Mamarok> superboy_: what does df -h tell you? --> pastebin.com
[09:08] <hyper__ch> Mamarok: well, if he's going to ditch that install anyway then there's no harm in "trying" whether that guide works fine :) if you bork it, well, then you planned to reinstall anyway and if it works you learnt something that might prove useful later on
[09:08] <superboy_> whats pastebin.com?
[09:09] <dwidmann> !paste
[09:09] <Mamarok> hyper__ch: with onyl 8 gb making a separate home on a 160 gb disk is not...
[09:10] <wizardslovak> damn i forgot i dont have blank cd home
[09:10] <superboy_> the df -h tell's me :
[09:10] <Mamarok> there's not much space left in a 8 gb linux / for a separate /home...
[09:10] <superboy_> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[09:10] <superboy_> /dev/sda1             582G  4.5G  548G   1% /
[09:10] <superboy_> tmpfs                 868M     0  868M   0% /lib/init/rw
[09:10] <superboy_> varrun                868M  220K  868M   1% /var/run
[09:10] <Mamarok> superboy_: NO!
[09:10] <superboy_> varlock               868M     0  868M   0% /var/lock
[09:10] <superboy_> udev                  868M  148K  868M   1% /dev
[09:10] <superboy_> tmpfs                 868M   12K  868M   1% /dev/shm
[09:10] <superboy_> lrm                   868M  2.7M  865M   1% /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/volatile
[09:10] <Mamarok> superboy_: I asked you to paste tis in a pastebin!!!
[09:10] <wizardslovak> damn use pastebin
[09:10] <superboy_> i dont know how to use it?
[09:10] <Mamarok> superboy_: copy-paste?
[09:11] <Mamarok> you select the text, copy it, open http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste it there
[09:11] <Mamarok> then you only give the URL for it
[09:11] <superboy_> thats what i did i copy from terminal then i paste in the lil text box right?
[09:11] <SteBo> Or just sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[09:11] <Mamarok> if you can paste here, why not use pastebin
[09:11] <Mamarok> superboy_: read what I just told you!!!
[09:12] <superboy_> ok got u boss my fault
[09:12] <wizardslovak> lol its 4am already
[09:12] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: not here, its 10:12 am
[09:13] <hyper__ch> here it's the same time as in Mamarok's place :)
[09:13] <wizardslovak> so ure somewhere in europe
[09:13] <SteBo> Mamarok: In which country are you located?
[09:13] <Shadowkllr> hey, does anyone know where to edit the remote desktop settings in kubuntu 8.10?  I don't have physical access to my machine, but I have ssh open and can edit a file in terminal if I need to
[09:13] <Mamarok> SteBo: same as hyper__ch :)
[09:13] <hyper__ch> Shadowkllr: let me check what my settings are
[09:14] <Mamarok> Shadowkllr: what settings exactly?
[09:14] <Mamarok> haperthere are like 30 *rc files...
[09:14] <SteBo> Switzerland (because of the ch)... I'm in Germany.
[09:14] <Shadowkllr> well, first i think i need to turn it on, and set a password
[09:14] <wizardslovak> i am USA
[09:14] <wizardslovak> NY
[09:14] <Mamarok> superboy_: why would you want to remove that partition?
[09:15] <superboy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/167631/
[09:15] <Shadowkllr> but i'm used to doing it using the gui interface, i didn't know if there was a file I could edit to turn the settings on
[09:15] <superboy_> there like that?
[09:15] <Mamarok> yes, that's what you just sent to the channel
[09:15] <wizardslovak> ok people now i am out
[09:15] <Mamarok> superboy_: do you have a dual boot install?
[09:15] <wizardslovak> nice talking to you and good night/morning
[09:16] <superboy_> kus when i install vista it syncs wmi and a pre-installed services that that are automaticly aadd and connect to a domain and i cant change the domain for my own network
[09:17] <Mamarok> superboy_: what does that have to do with removing a boot sector?
[09:17] <superboy_> \i dont have dual boot and i cant boot into the hidden partition
[09:17] <Freyr> what is the best antivirus for linux ?
[09:17] <superboy_> i just want to remove it
[09:17] <jussi01> !antivirus | Freyr
[09:17] <hyper__ch> Shadowkllr: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/167634/
[09:17] <superboy_> but i think its copy-write
[09:18] <FuriousGeorge> I can mount my Windows LDM (dynamic disks) partition manually, but I can't get it to happen on boot...
[09:18] <Mamarok> superboy_: of course it is, it's your recovery partition for XP
[09:18] <FuriousGeorge> i posted about it here-->  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1152824
[09:18] <Shadowkllr> hyper, what's the name of the file?
[09:18] <superboy_> so theres no way of removing it kuz it syncs schemes and wmi images
[09:19] <hyper__ch> Shadowkllr: ~/.kde/share/config/krfbrc
[09:19] <superboy_> and a lockwed domain
[09:19] <Mamarok> superboy_: if you want to keep XP, don't touch it
[09:19] <Mamarok> else, you can wipe the partition with a partitioning tool
[09:19] <superboy_> i dont want xp
[09:20] <superboy_> and sum partition tools dont show the hiddin partition
[09:20] <Mamarok> superboy_: well, it will show if you run the partitionin tool as root
[09:20] <superboy_> how i do that??
[09:21] <hyper__ch> superboy_: you're in linux or windows right now?
[09:22] <superboy_> linux
[09:22] <superboy_> all the way bro
[09:22] <Mamarok> hyper__ch: can you take over, I need another coffee first...
[09:22] <hyper__ch> superboy_: and you don't intend to delete the whole harddisk, right? Just that partition?
[09:22] <superboy_> bring me a coffe too mamarok
[09:22] <Mamarok> superboy_: check with hyper__ch then, please :)
[09:22] <Mamarok> superboy_: thanks :)
[09:23]  * Mamarok gives superboy_  a cookie
[09:23] <superboy_> yes that partition only
[09:23] <superboy_> YaY a KoOKiE
[09:23] <hyper__ch> superboy_: pastebin the output of:   sudo fdisk -l
[09:24] <superboy_> ok
[09:25] <superboy_> how to i pastebin again
[09:25] <hyper__ch> !paste | superboy_
[09:25] <vimalp> hi buddy,
[09:26] <vimalp> my title bar lost in ubuntu
[09:26] <superboy_> hyper u still there?
[09:26] <hyper__ch> vimalp: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:26] <hyper__ch> superboy_: I am
[09:26] <superboy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/167638/
[09:26] <vimalp> ubuntu
[09:26] <superboy_> i dont think its showing thou
[09:27] <hyper__ch> superboy_: are you sure there is one?
[09:27] <hyper__ch> vimalp: try #ubuntu
[09:27] <superboy_> it only showa when i put windows install and run repair computer go to camand prompt the type notepad the when i open it shows the idden partition
[09:28] <hyper__ch> superboy_: hmmmm, then lets try with gparted
[09:28] <hyper__ch> superboy_: sudo apt-get install gparted
[09:28] <superboy_> i think when i install kubunt tu it joined in that partition
[09:28] <hyper__ch> superboy_: kdesudo gparterd
[09:28] <hyper__ch> superboy_: sorry,   kdesudo gparted
[09:29] <superboy_> wich one kdesudo or sudo one?
[09:29] <Mamarok> superboy_: read what he just said!
[09:30] <hyper__ch> superboy_: "sudo" is for doing things in the terminal and "kdesudo" is to call an gui application as root from the terminal
[09:30] <superboy_> ohhh gotcha
[09:31] <superboy_> okay ran kdesudo gparted
[09:31] <hyper__ch> superboy_: what partitions does it show there for the harddisk?
[09:32] <superboy_> ext3,extended,linux-swap
[09:32] <superboy_> its not there
[09:32] <superboy_> is it kuz its copy-write and for windows?
[09:32] <hyper__ch> superboy_: hmmm, then I don't think that there is a hidden partition....
[09:33] <superboy_> i have an acer aspire x1700
[09:33] <hyper__ch> superboy_: maybe when you use windows restore cd/dvd it will create a ramdrive
[09:34] <superboy_> yea i think thats what it does kuz when i use windows vista install it shows but cant delete it with it
[09:35] <superboy_> is there a way tlo wipe the whole drive even the copy-write hidden partition
[09:35] <hyper__ch> superboy_: if you don't mind losing all your data there is a way
[09:35] <hyper__ch> superboy_: it's called "dd" --> a small utility humurously nicknamed "disk destroyer"
[09:36] <superboy_> even if its copy-write
[09:36] <superboy_> ?
[09:36] <hyper__ch> superboy_: you start from a live cd and then you will issue the following command:   sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX
[09:36] <hyper__ch> if --> input file ; in that case just a whole bunch of "0"
[09:36] <hyper__ch> of -> output file ; in that case your harddisk
[09:37] <hyper__ch> sdX needs to be replaced with your actual harddisk name whgich is sda as it seems
[09:37] <hyper__ch> that will just overwrite the whol 640 GB on that disk with 0
[09:37] <hyper__ch> (and it will take a little while)
[09:38] <Mamarok> superboy_: but be absolutely sure of the disk name!
[09:38] <Mamarok> else you can break everything
[09:38] <superboy_> im scared now
[09:38] <superboy_> lol
[09:38] <hyper__ch> Mamarok: it seems he has only one harddisk
[09:38] <superboy_> from windows install disk its called:"X:Boot"
[09:39] <Mamarok> ouch...
[09:39] <hyper__ch> Mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/167638/
[09:39] <Mamarok> hyper__ch: he only wants to remove one partition, not wipe a disk...
[09:40] <hyper__ch> Mamarok: [10:35] <superboy_> is there a way tlo wipe the whole drive even the copy-write hidden partition
[09:40] <hyper__ch> Mamarok: that's why I wrote about dd
[09:40] <Mamarok> well, make sure he really wants to do that...
[09:41] <Mamarok> it's total data loss, so...
[09:41] <hyper__ch> Mamarok: :)
[09:41] <superboy_> so all live cd's come with dd?
[09:41] <hyper__ch> well, one always have backups :)
[09:41]  * |eagles051387| needs to make backups big time
[09:41] <hyper__ch> superboy_: I think dd is included
[09:42] <hyper__ch> superboy_: there is only one harddisk in that computer?
[09:42] <hyper__ch> superboy_: and you have a backup of your data from that harddisk?
[09:43] <superboy_> yea its one sata ata wdc wd6400AAks-0 640.1 gb
[09:44] <hyper__ch> superboy_: if you have backups, then start a live cd and run there:   sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[09:44] <hyper__ch> superboy_: and do something for 2-3h
[09:45] <hyper__ch> not sure how fast it is, but it's slow
[09:49] <superboy_> before i back-up whats the command to get apt plugin
[09:49] <superboy_> adobe
[09:50] <hyper__ch> superboy_: 32 or 63bit?
[09:50] <superboy_> 64 bit
[09:50] <hyper__ch> superboy_: install it manually...
[09:50] <superboy_> how?
[09:52] <hyper__ch> superboy_: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Adobe-Flash-Player-64-bit-on-Ubuntu-8-10-98076.shtml
[09:54] <Mamarok> hyper__ch: the flashplugin-nonfree in Kubuntu 8.04 works fine, no need for that...
[09:54] <hyper__ch> Mamarok: 64bit always keeps stopping after a while
[09:54] <RajeshRathod> Hi Friends
[09:55] <hyper__ch> Mamarok: only way is to restart the browser
[09:55] <Mamarok> hyper__ch: not for me, works fine here
[09:55] <hyper__ch> Mamarok: even the flash 10 alpha 64bit plugin was much superior
[09:55] <hyper__ch> well, never tried 8.04 on 64bit... but that was the case on 8.10 64bit
[09:55] <RajeshRathod> hi friends i am one critical issues
[09:55] <Mamarok> hyper__ch: as I said, works fine here, you must have other settings then
[09:55] <jussi01> hyper__ch: I have a similar issue
[09:55] <Shadowkllr> hyper, i'm still having a hard time turning it on thru the command line, i can't seem to find the correct file
[09:55] <Mamarok> !ask | RajeshRathod
[09:56] <hyper__ch> jussi01_: flash 64bit?
[09:56] <RajeshRathod> when i fire any command in terminal window first it shows me "can not resolve host" and after that it execute command
[09:56] <Mamarok> Shadowkllr: turning on what? sry, didn't follow
[09:56] <jussi01> hyper__ch: yep
[09:56] <hyper__ch> Shadowkllr: you need to start it... what's the program name again... krfb?   then just run:   krfb &
[09:56] <RajeshRathod> problem is occured when i try to start the jboss server.
[09:56] <superboy_> how do i openn nsplugin
[09:57] <hyper__ch> jussi01_: well, been using on 8.10 the 64bit alpha version from adobe and now on 9.04 using the latest one... and it works great
[09:57] <RajeshRathod> jboss start with some short of exception.
[09:57] <jussi01> hyper__ch: firefox kept crashing with the alpha, but I might give it a go again
[09:57] <Mamarok> RajeshRathod: check the host settings, it seems to search for something that is not there
[09:58] <RajeshRathod> yes i checked it too.
[09:58] <hyper__ch> jussi01_: I have no issues here on kde4, using firefox 3.0.x and 3.5 with the plugin... but not using the alpha version anymore
[09:58] <RajeshRathod> check proper entry in resolve.conf,networking
[09:58] <RajeshRathod> everything is mentioned properly.
[09:59] <RajeshRathod> my pc is under domain of "x"
[09:59] <Mamarok> RajeshRathod: sry, never used Jboss, I don't do java, but it's likely it tries to connect to some host that is not there
[09:59] <jussi01> hyper__ch: ok, Im going to give the actual 64 bit one a go
[09:59] <RajeshRathod> yes
[09:59] <Mamarok> domain "x"?
[09:59] <RajeshRathod> actually ubuntu is not able to resolve host name
[09:59] <hyper__ch> jussi01: I follow this one usually: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Adobe-Flash-Player-64-bit-on-Ubuntu-8-10-98076.shtml
[09:59] <RajeshRathod> its example
[09:59] <Mamarok> you mean x as 192.168.---
[09:59] <RajeshRathod> yes
[10:00] <RajeshRathod> my hostname is abc-123 and ip address : <IP_ADDRESS>...
[10:00] <RajeshRathod> when i start jboss it wll try to find out ip address from hostname.
[10:00] <RajeshRathod> which it does not getting.
[10:01] <Mamarok> RajeshRathod: then soemthing must be wrong in the host address settings, else you wouldn't get that error
[10:02] <|eagles051387|> that sounds like the issue i was having no resolv.conf file with the ips of the name servers
[10:02] <superboy_> whats the comand to uninstall nsplugin ?
[10:03] <RajeshRathod> ok thanks.
[10:03] <RajeshRathod> will check it
[10:04] <jussi01> Is anyone here familiar with kdenlive? Im trying to add still photos for set periods of time to a video - kinda like a slideshow with music.... can it be done?
[10:05] <hyper__ch> jussi01_: I used it once to submit a dvd to a court :)
[10:06] <jussi01> hyper__ch: *g*
[10:06] <jacobu> How do you set the default path for the Terminal Emulator to be your home directory instead of your Documents directory?
[10:06] <hyper__ch> jussi01_: well, we had surveillance material from a PI and just cut the essential part together :)
[10:11]  * jussi01 headdesks... its actually quite easy to do :D
[10:13] <austin> when I attempt to activate the nvidia drivers it stalls at 0% "Downloading and installing driver..."
[10:15] <hyper__ch> austin: what nvidia card have you got?
[10:15] <austin> its an old kinda rare one, 5950fx I think
[10:16] <austin> but it should use basically the same drivers as any fx series I think
[10:25] <austin> any suggestions?
[10:28] <superboy> how do i install java from the comand promp
[10:29] <Mamarok> superboy: what java do you want?
[10:30] <superboy> hyper u there big dawg
[10:30] <superboy> i want for limewire  and to be able to use youtube
[10:30] <superboy> what up mamarok
[10:31] <Mamarok> superboy: you mean javascript then...
[10:31] <Mamarok> that is installed by default
[10:31] <Mamarok> and for youtube you need flash
[10:32] <superboy> i tried installing limewire but it says i need java enviroment
[10:33] <Mamarok> ok, the you need sun-java6-jre
[10:34] <Mamarok> superboy: ^^
[10:34] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get isntall sun-java6-jre
[10:34] <superboy> okay thanks bro imma try that
[10:35] <superboy> mamarok it says"E: Invalid operation isntall"
[10:36] <Mamarok> typo, sry
[10:36] <Mamarok> install :)
[10:36] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[10:39] <superboy> pastebin
[10:40] <Mamarok> superboy: which one?
[10:40] <superboy> how u paste bin again?
[10:41] <Mamarok> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:41] <Mamarok> set a bookmark, so you can find it again...
[10:43] <superboy> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/167686/ <<mamarok
[10:53] <superboy> how do i upgrade to lxde on the terminal
[10:54] <Mamarok> superboy: wait...
[10:54] <superboy> ok
[10:54] <Mamarok> superboy: about that paste: just accept the license, else install another java
[10:55] <Mamarok> Tab highlights the <ok> butten, then return
[10:55] <Mamarok> button
[10:56] <hyper__ch> austin: sorry, didn't see you replied... hmmm... I got a newer card and I use the proprietary nvidia drivers for it
[10:59] <Mamarok> superboy: you actually run lxde?
[10:59] <Hedge|Hog> is there a way to change dolphins recyclebin behaviour? all files i move to the bin ends up in .local/share/Trash even if the files originally is on another partition..which slows the system down alot if i dont delete those files directly
[10:59] <hyper__ch> why not deleting them directly?
[11:00] <Hedge|Hog> hyper__ch: thats what i usually do, but its nice to just mark and press delete and then empty the bin when its full
[11:01] <hyper__ch> shift - delete --> delete completly :)
[11:01] <hyper__ch> I normally use that
[11:01] <Hedge|Hog> hyper__ch: well..yes, but id really prefered if dolphin could use the .trash directories on other partitions as all normal file managers does
[11:01] <hyper__ch> (ok, I also make incremental snapshot-style backups every night dating back 90 days)
[11:02] <hyper__ch> Hedge|Hog: define "normal file manager"
[11:02] <Hedge|Hog> haha, everything but dolphin and konqueror =D
[11:02] <Mamarok> superboy: still here?
[11:02] <hyper__ch> don't use them then
[11:02] <Hedge|Hog> nautilus and thunar does what i want dolphin to do at least
[11:02] <Hedge|Hog> hyper__ch: well, all other things are done nicer in dolphin
[11:03] <hyper__ch> Hedge|Hog: check the dolphin settings if there is no such option?
[11:03] <Hedge|Hog> ive done that already, and googling dont work out for me either
[11:03] <hyper__ch> Hedge|Hog: asked in #kde ?
[11:04] <hyper__ch> or even #dolphin (if that exists)
[11:04] <Hedge|Hog> nope, ill try that
[11:04] <siki> hey guys
[11:05] <hyper__ch> Hedge|Hog: good luck
[11:05] <Hedge|Hog> hyper__ch: well, yes, thats standard keystroke-procedure =D
[11:05] <Hedge|Hog> sorry
[11:05] <Hedge|Hog> wrong channel, and wrong h + tab user XD
[11:05] <Mamarok> Hedge|Hog: what version of KDE?
[11:06] <Hedge|Hog> 4.2.2
[11:06] <Mamarok> Hedge|Hog: nromally, every partition has its own trash
[11:07] <Mamarok> normally* even
[11:07] <superboy> is lxde better than kde 4?
[11:07] <Mamarok> superboy: why do you want to install lxde?
[11:07] <Mamarok> it's another desktop
[11:07] <Mamarok> uses less ressources
[11:08] <Mamarok> but I never tested it, I prefer to enjoy KDE4 in it's original env.
[11:08] <hyper__ch> compiled from source? ^^
[11:08] <Hedge|Hog> Mamarok: yeah, i already have .trash-directories on other partitions, but dolphin doesnt seem to want to use them
[11:09] <Mamarok> Hedge|Hog: it does here, the trash on the external HD is used
[11:09] <superboy> its for my gurls computer she wants:"aa beutifull top notch looking desktop
[11:09] <Mamarok> superboy: use KDE4
[11:09] <Mamarok> lxde is not beautifull to notch IMHO
[11:09] <hyper__ch> get her a Mac ^^
[11:10]  * Mamarok larts hyper__ch
[11:10] <Mamarok> hyper__ch: behave!
[11:10] <hyper__ch> Mamarok: you know how girls are :)
[11:10] <hyper__ch> Mamarok: they just want their shiny new macbook
[11:11] <Mamarok> !ot | hyper__ch
[11:11] <hyper__ch> *hmpf*
[11:12] <superboy> lol yup the leopard editition too
[11:12] <Mamarok> !ot | superboy
[11:12] <Mamarok> ...
[11:12] <superboy> so kd4 is one of the best desktop?
[11:12] <Mamarok> superboy: I said IMHO
[11:13] <Mamarok> "the Best" is always a personal opinion
[11:13] <Mamarok> but, as I said, there is an -offtopic channel for such discussions
[11:14] <superboy> thats the desktop u have mamarok
[11:14] <Mamarok> yes
[11:14] <hyper__ch> also using kde4 here :)
[11:14] <Mamarok> superboy: that is obvious, this channel is for Kubuntu support, hence KDE
[11:14] <hyper__ch> well, kde 4 was horrible, 4.1 was good... 4.2 is great
[11:15] <superboy> do i need any special source repo for IMHO?
[11:15] <Mamarok> hyper__ch: kde 4.0 was a developer snapshot...
[11:15] <Mamarok> and could you guys take this to the offtopic channel please!
[11:15] <hyper__ch> superboy: IMHO -> In My Humble Opinion
[11:16] <superboy> oooh i thought that was a desktop mamarok was using
[11:16] <Mamarok> !jargon
[11:17] <superboy> jargon?
[11:17] <Mamarok> superboy: check the Jargon dictionnary on Google
[11:17] <superboy> !jargon
[11:17] <Mamarok> it tells you the meaning of the abbreviations
[11:17] <Mamarok> which are usaully typed in capital letters
[11:18]  * Mamarok gets some food
[11:18] <Mamarok> BBL
[11:19] <superboy> WHATS THE COMAND FOR JAVA FOR LIMEWIRE IT STILL SAYS I NEED JAVA RUNTIME 6.0 OR SUMTHING
[11:20] <superboy> WHATS OENBOX IS SESIONS?
[11:20] <hyper__ch> !shout | superboy
[11:21] <faileas> *sigh*
[11:21] <faileas> they really need to learn irc etiquette
[11:23] <superboy> WHATS KRE-MIGRATER?
[11:24] <faileas> superboy: there's this thing called a caps lock. it helps if you turn it off
[11:24] <jussi01> superboy: if you continue in caps you will be removed
[11:24] <hyper__ch> jussi01: tried now the flash 10 64bit plugin?
[11:25] <superboy> `my fault
[11:25] <jussi01> hyper__ch: yeah, seems ok now
[11:25] <faileas> yes it was
[11:25] <superboy> how i get the flash 10 plugin for 64 bit from terminal?
[11:26] <hyper__ch> so, I'm heading towards zurich now
[11:26] <hyper__ch> bye bye
[11:31] <wael> slt tout le monde
[11:32] <jussi01> !fr
[11:33] <superboy_> hello superboy
[11:33] <superboy> hi ,supergurl
[11:33] <superboy_> what u doing
[11:33] <superboy> nutiin
[11:33] <superboy_> mmhm
[11:33] <Mamarok> !ot | superboy
[11:47] <superboy> i downloaded java but its asking me to chose a program to runm it or open the folder?
[11:47] <amstrongclark> who is chinese
[11:48] <superboy> !ot| amstrongclark
[11:50] <amstrongclark> my english isn' good ,i want to find a chinese to talk about problem
[11:50] <faileas> !cn
[11:50] <amstrongclark> 谢谢
[11:51] <superboy> !!!cn
[11:52] <amstrongclark>  谢谢
[11:52] <superboy> !cn
[11:52] <tess_> hello?
[11:53] <superboy> !ot| tess_
[11:56] <superboy> hellp how do i install sun java from terminal??
[12:00] <erxz> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[12:03] <tequil> hello
[12:04] <tequil> i need help
[12:04] <superboy_> how do u pastbin again?
[12:05] <tequil> i want to change permission on files throw terminal
[12:05] <tequil> throw=through
[12:07] <superboy> NeED help where u at mamarok or hyper.....http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/167730/
[12:07] <tequil> the command is "chown 667" to give me full access
[12:07] <tequil> ????
[12:09] <erxz> chmod 777 full access for everyone
[12:10] <superboy> how do i fix broken package
[12:15] <gundam_rx78nt1> I keep getting hash sum mismatch errors every time I try to update my kubuntu distro. Is there currently a problem or a fix?
[12:17] <superboy>  You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[12:17] <superboy> uperboy@HYSTERIA:~$ sudo apt-get -f install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[12:17] <superboy> > You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[12:17] <superboy> uperboy@HYSTERIA:~$ sudo apt-get -f  install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[12:17] <superboy> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[12:17] <superboy> uperboy@HYSTERIA:~$ sudo apt-get -f install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[12:17] <superboy> bash: command substitution: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
[12:17] <superboy> bash: command substitution: line 4: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[12:17] <superboy> bash: You: command not found
[12:17] <superboy> rhats what i keep getting
[12:18] <superboy> thats*
[12:19] <gundam_rx78nt1> superboy: is this referring to the hash sum mismatch or something else?
[12:19] <superboy_> i forgot add<<
[12:24] <Laeborg> http://www.spotify.com/en/help/faq/wine/#Opening_spotify_URIs_from_browsers - where should I add that script ?
[12:25] <superboy_> !cn| laeborg
[12:25] <Laeborg> chinese?
[12:26] <superboy_> !cn| laeborg
[12:26] <Laeborg> what the?
[12:27] <Laeborg> I simple ask where I should add a script.  Stop highlighting, if you just laming...
[12:28] <superboy_> !cn| laeborg
[12:28] <Laeborg> going to ignore you...
[12:28] <superboy_> !shout| laeborg
[12:29] <Laeborg><EMAIL_ADDRESS>added to ignore list.
[12:31] <superboy> !shout| laeborg
[12:32] <Laeborg><EMAIL_ADDRESS>added to ignore list.
[12:32] <superboy> !cn| laeborg
[12:32] <Laeborg> !admin
[12:32] <Laeborg> !help
[12:33] <amstrongclark> 我的kpackagekit更新源到99％停止了，等了好长都没动静
[12:35] <Laeborg> !webmin
[12:36] <gundam_rx78nt1> I keep getting hash sum mismatch errors every time I try to update my kubuntu distro. Is there currently a problem or a fix?
[12:36] <rosco_y> Hi everyone: Can anyone recommend a good movie player?
[12:37] <superboy_> !cn| gundam_rx78nt1
[12:37] <superboy_> !shout| rosco_y
[12:38] <rosco_y> ubottu: That's strange--I don't see any all cap words in what I typed....(sorry, tho)
[12:38] <gundam_rx78nt1> superboy_: stop playing around. If you aren't going to help or ask questions, get off the channel!  I just use either synaptic or apt-get to perform updates.
[12:40] <rosco_y> faileas: by "add the medibuntu repos, are you saying I should edit a text file somewhere?
[12:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> Everytime, it responds with failed to download file because of hash sum mismatch.
[12:40] <faileas> rosco_y: there's a howto on their page http://www.medibuntu.org/
[12:40] <rosco_y> Thank you faileas
[12:41] <faileas> you'll want the win32 codecs for one
[12:41] <rosco_y> gundam_rx78nt1: I guess I would have to suspect download errors for some reason....
[12:42] <rosco_y> maybe some freaky glitch going on somewhere
[12:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> well, I have just about replaced all of my routers and cables (in case it was my hardware). It still fails.
[12:43] <rosco_y> whew...unfortunately I'm really unqualified to be of much help
[12:44] <rosco_y> maybe you should order a dvd directly from kubuntu, I think they are somewhere between dirt-cheap and free
[12:45] <rosco_y> just in case that might fix it
[12:45] <rosco_y> of course you've done a fsck?
[12:46] <rosco_y> If you're suspecting hardware, you might want to peek at the hard drives
[13:05] <altrortla> i'd like to cange permission with chmod ... but i like to knoe what kind of permission are setted...
[13:05] <altrortla> how can i do?
[13:06] <altrortla> i'd like to to have numeric format ... like 0755
[13:15] <altrortla> not clear...
[13:15] <altrortla> ?
[13:15] <altrortla> I'll retry....
[13:16] <tlvb> First boot today, and I get no desktop except for kwin, and the krunner bound to alt+f2 (as usual) I've yet to come across any post on ubuntuforums on the same subject, so I guess it's an isolated matter? Remedy?
[13:17] <jussi01> tlvb: tried restarting plasma?
[13:21] <tlvb> jussi01: is it just $plasma? - Then yes, it gives a load of error messages, some on files not found, many towards the end onthe form plasma (3733): ""max"" - conversion of "-1,-1" to QSizeF failed"
[13:22] <jussi01> tlvb: I think so, but not certain on that at all. Id also try moving your .kde folder, as to reset all settings - you can replace it later
[13:23] <tlvb> hmm, it seems that everything except plasma works, multiple workspaces transpareny...
[13:23] <tlvb> I'll try that
[13:25] <tlvb> yes, moving the .kde folder worked, so it is defnitely a config issue
[13:25] <jussi01> tlvb: ok, now the fun part - you have to find out what it was :P
[13:26] <tlvb> yay me!
[13:27] <altrortla> i'd like to change permission with chmod ... but i like to know what kind of permission are setted, to set them as they was in original way ... kubuntu show me a locked banner
[13:27] <altrortla> how can i do?
[13:27] <jussi01> altrortla: ls -la
[13:27] <altrortla> ls?
[13:27] <jussi01> that will list whats there now
[13:28] <altrortla> thanks
[13:28] <jussi01> you nee the whole lot "ls -la"
[13:30] <altrortla> yes i have done ... but a need to have numerical string (such as "0755")
[13:31] <Dragnslcr> altrortla- r is 4, w is 2, x is 1, then just add them for each part
[13:31] <altrortla> and d?
[13:31] <Dragnslcr> d just means it's a directory
[13:31] <altrortla> such as this ... drwxr-xr-x
[13:32] <altrortla> so it is 755
[13:32] <Dragnslcr> Yup
[13:33] <Dragnslcr> That's what most normal directories should be
[13:33] <altrortla> infact it's stange that it won't to make write on it
[13:33] <altrortla> ok
[13:36] <InforMed> Hi!
[13:36] <kyle_> HEY
[13:37] <InforMed> My panel icons change position every reboot! Is there any way to solve this issue?
[13:37] <kyle_> i had the same problem
[13:38] <kyle_> i kept on retrying it everytime i turned off my puter
[13:38] <InforMed> It's a kde bug! I think!
[13:38] <kyle_> and by luck it actually worked
[13:38] <kyle_> so keep on drag and dropping them
[13:38] <kyle_> try googling to
[13:40] <InforMed> kyle I'm trying! But I can't find a solution!
[13:41] <kyle_> try editing your start up applications
[13:41] <ubuntu> hi i was wondering if anyone could help me, i installed linux, it went wrong, i deleted the partition and stupidly extended the windows one, now i can't boot windows due to grub error, need to resize windows partition but linux won't let me can anyone help
[13:41] <kyle_> informed system settings/advanced/auto start
[13:42] <InforMed> kyle_:  I don't understand how that could help!
[13:43] <ubuntu> hi i was wondering if anyone could help me, i installed linux, it went wrong, i deleted the partition and stupidly extended the windows one, now i can't boot windows due to grub error, need to resize windows partition but linux won't let me can anyone help
[13:44] <kyle_> do you have the windows disk?
[13:44] <kyle_> you might have to reformat
[13:45] <dbglt> hey, is there a package for kde-devel ?
[13:46] <dbglt> no matter :p
[13:46] <ubuntu> thank u but i have a lot of personal data on there
[13:46] <dbglt> bad search string heh
[13:47] <kyle_> ubuntu try running linex from the disk... so b4 it loads grub and fails press f12 and run the cd
[13:48] <ubuntu> im doing that now to talk to u
[13:50] <szadek_> ubuntu : http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-restore-grub-in-ubuntu/2008/04/11
[13:50] <szadek_> but before , you can enter the windows paritition and take a backup of the data
[13:52] <ubuntu> how would restoring the grub help, i thought my best bet was to somehow get rid of it
[13:52] <kyle_> you can delete its partition.. but i dont understand why windows isnt working for you
[13:54] <idran2> Hi to all.Some one knows krusader? I ha ve a problem starting it: it appear whit a white screen and no interface. like a clean form.
[13:54] <szadek_> ubuntu : before you do anything , with the live cd you will be able to backup your data , this is the first thing you should do , then , with gparted you can do wahtever you want with your partitions
[13:54] <ubuntu> when i run gparted under livecd it says that i have no devices
[13:55] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, you have an ntfs partition?
[13:55] <ubuntu> yes
[13:56] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, ergh... i had a similar problem- it was due to Windows not shutting down properly, but if you can't log in, that may be an issue :/
[13:57] <ubuntu> its not a login issue its a boot issue, i can't get past grub stage after deleting the partition
[13:59] <ign0ramus> ubuntu: can you press 'e' to edit grub?
[13:59] <szadek_> ubuntu , with live cd , opening nautilus , on the left side , the ntfs partition doesnt show up?
[13:59] <RootRay> hello, just upgraded to ubuntu 9.10, notices the menu in firefox3 is a bit slow
[13:59] <RootRay> anyone with same experience? seems like there is an issue with gtk
[13:59] <ign0ramus> RootRay, me too... haven't found a fix for that
[13:59] <ubuntu> i cant igno  because be4 the grub window comes up it says error code 22
[13:59] <ign0ramus> RootRay, i have about 25 add-ons, and scrolling from top to bottom takes a full minute
[13:59] <RootRay> dont know why, but some gnome apps run slow
[14:00] <RootRay> igno: i believe the problem is with the latest gtk
[14:00] <RootRay> it wasnt like this in 9.04
[14:00] <ign0ramus> RootRay, could be... i'm hoping there was a fix (and do you mean 8.10?)
[14:00] <RootRay> yeh, 8.10
[14:00] <RootRay> prior to 9.10 it was ok
[14:01] <ign0ramus> do you mean 9.04? ;-)
[14:01] <RootRay> em
[14:01] <RootRay> yeh 9.04
[14:01] <ign0ramus> haha :-)
[14:01] <RootRay> Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display
[14:01] <RootRay> also get this msg all the time
[14:01] <dc> hi guy
[14:01] <RootRay> it looks like the ubuntu team rushed it a lot
[14:02] <ign0ramus> RootRay, there's so much pressure to do the 6-month release, sometimes, i think it'd be worth it to wait a little...
[14:02] <ubuntu> does anyone know wat error code 22 is on grub
[14:03] <RootRay> the code base is getting out of control
[14:03] <RootRay> too many forks and conflicts
[14:05] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html
[14:05] <ubuntu> thx
[14:06] <ubuntu> 22 : "Must load Multiboot kernel before modules"
[14:06] <ubuntu>  This error is returned if the module load command is used before loading a Multiboot kernel. It only makes sense in this case anyway, as GRUB has no idea how to communicate the presence of location of such modules to a non-Multiboot-aware kernel.
[14:07] <ubuntu> does anyone know how to fix that
[14:07] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, when you tried from liveCD, you ran 'sudo grub'?
[14:08] <ubuntu> ???
[14:08] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, didn't you say you tried to fix with a liveCD already?
[14:08] <ubuntu> i think it happened because i deleted my linux partition
[14:08] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, so you only have windows on the machine now?
[14:08] <ubuntu> yes
[14:09] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, in that case you could probably fix it using a windows disc, and using 'fixmbr'
[14:09] <ubuntu> would that get rid of my files and does it apply to vista
[14:10] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, lemme check the vista thing (I know it works on XP), but no, it simply reinstalls the bootloader
[14:10] <idran2> Hi to all.Some one knows krusader? I have a problem starting it: it appear whit a white screen and no interface. like a clean form. I try reinstall it but nothig change.
[14:10] <ubuntu> i thought it wouldnt because vista uses a different boot loader
[14:11] <ubuntu> idran2 does ur machine meet minimum reqs
[14:12] <tlvb> is it possible to remove the plasma menu button (default position top right of desktop) from the desktop, or to move it into a panel?
[14:13] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, from what i've read: put in Vista boot disc, restart. Enter recovery console and run FIXBOOT and FIXMBR and you *should* be back in business
[14:14] <ubuntu> ok
[14:14] <ubuntu> just need to get the disk from under dads nose
[14:14] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, again, this does not erase anything, it simply reloads the bootloader needed to start the OS
[14:14] <ubuntu> thank u
[14:14] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, don't thank me until the problem is fixed!  :P
[14:17] <ubuntu> well if i hadnt said thank u ,u could have been w8ing a wk or more
[14:17] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, haha! hope it works out for you.
[14:17] <ubuntu> thk u
[14:17] <ign0ramus> you're welcome :)
[14:17] <ubuntu> for ur time
[14:18] <ign0ramus> it's a sat. morning with rain scheduled for most of the day.  i have plenty of time :(
[14:18] <ubuntu> nice and cloudy for me
[14:19] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, here in mid-atlantic US, we've had rain for like 10 straight days...
[14:20] <ign0ramus> gives me some time to tweak my Jaunty install (which it really needs)
[14:20] <ubuntu> pity
[14:20] <ubuntu> i wouldnt mind d'loading the new 9.04 but i don't have any spare cd's
[14:21] <ubuntu> but im stuck with UE 1.6
[14:21] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, i'm pretty sure you can do it via flash drive if you have one with enough capacity
[14:22] <ubuntu> would it work of sd card very slowly
[14:23] <ubuntu> oh i can't w8 till i have some money coming in
[14:23] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, that's a good question... that i'm not sure of
[14:23] <ubuntu> it would be very slow and stupid to try if u had a flash drive
[14:24] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, i don't think most computers are capable of booting from an SD card...
[14:25] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, maybe if you had a USB device (camera, usb hub) to plug the SD card into, it may work... but would take forever
[14:26] <ubuntu> yeah so i wont try and will stick with the old sys
[14:26] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, probably your best bet.
[14:27] <ubuntu> actually dad has 9.04 disk which i could 'borrow'
[14:27] <ign0ramus> ubuntu, why couldn't you use that then?
[14:28] <ubuntu> because its his and i would probably have to wait till 9.10 comes out to use it because he chucks his old ones
[14:28] <maxxou> hello i have a problem with dmraid, i have 3*500Go raid5 (my doc) and 1*160Go non raid for kubuntu 9.04 after install i have grub error 21, http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-14129
[14:28] <ign0ramus> brb
[14:28] <ubuntu> max, is it installed on the non-raid
[14:31] <ubuntu> can windows vista comps see when a linux comp is on the network
[14:31] <maxxou> ubuntu: yes  but http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-14130
[14:31] <ubuntu> wat is it
[14:32] <ubuntu> its all french
[14:32] <maxxou> i can't mount any partition, yes i'm french
[14:33] <ubuntu> oh
[14:33] <ubuntu> i thought u were answering my q sorry
[14:34] <ubuntu> no idea then
[14:34] <maxxou> thanks
[14:34] <ubuntu> i didn't help lol
[14:36] <ubuntu> can windows vista comps see when a linux comp is on the network
[14:37] <embraceunity> yes
[14:37] <ubuntu> is there a way so that they can't
[14:37] <embraceunity> I think Samba is the program that is used
[14:38] <ubuntu> thx
[14:38] <ubuntu> how do i get samba
[14:38] <embraceunity> i think it comes standard
[14:39] <ubuntu> found it
[14:41] <idran2> ubuntu: you wrote "idran2 does ur machine meet minimum reqs" I thing yes. Only krusader have this problem and whit kubuntu 8.04 I have not this problem. Only now that I have updated to 8.10
[14:41] <BluesKaj> aha , the new kde4.2.3 konvi version finally seems to work properly, however the empasis ison "seems to " :)
[14:42] <BluesKaj> err emphasis
[14:42] <ubuntu> try upgrading to 9.04 and seeing if that fixes ur prob
[14:42] <ubuntu> and if it dont then go back to ur old 8.04
[14:43] <RootRay> 你好
[14:46] <Unksi> !cn | RootRay
[14:46] <BluesKaj> !cn | RootRay
[14:47] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there every one .....how can i add themes for KDE ???
[14:47] <ign0ramus> cobra-the-joker, www.kde-look.org
[14:48] <cobra-the-joker> ign0ramus  , i meen how can i install it ?
[14:49] <ign0ramus> cobra-the-joker, not to be an ass, but you have to follow the installation instructions provided on most of the themes found there
[14:49] <cobra-the-joker> :D
[14:49] <ubuntu> lol
[14:49] <ign0ramus> cobra-the-joker, if you're used to how gnome 'themes' can be easily installed, you'll find that kde themes are completely different
[14:49] <ign0ramus> cobra-the-joker, gnome 'themes' are simply modifications to pixmaps and metacity colors, etc
[14:50] <ign0ramus> cobra-the-joker, kde themes are separate entities in their own right, and have to be compiled and installed separately
[14:50] <cobra-the-joker> mmmm
[14:50] <cobra-the-joker> ok
[14:50] <ign0ramus> ... if that makes any sense.
[14:50] <ign0ramus> Jucato could give a much more eloquent explanation, but that's the gist of it
[14:51] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, yo yo yo
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> i'm installing the windows virtualbox via wine to run a linux gues
[14:53] <white_pelican> when I wa using Hardy Heron, and I would right click ona link an an email or other places, a small menu wouldpop-up offering me to do things likeopening it in firefox, mozilla, etc. I upgraded to Jaunty and now that menu no longer comes up. What am I missing?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: what app is this in?
[14:54] <ubuntu> http://www.myspace.com/fadedcadence new band
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> !ot > ubuntu
[14:54] <white_pelican> kmail for one, but I've also seen it in xchat
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: dont spam in here, this is support
[14:55] <ubuntu> thx
[14:56] <ubuntu> where do i say offtopic stuff because it says on the official one [13:55] [Error] \kubuntu-offtopic: No such nick/channel.
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: its /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:57] <ubuntu> thx
[14:57] <kevin_> how do i change the video driver that x is using
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: for what video card?
[14:58] <kevin_> i know there is someway to run the x setup but i havent done it forever
[14:58] <kevin_> it is a radeon m7
[14:58] <kevin_> (7500)
[14:58] <kevin_> i cant enable 3d effects and the utility tells me there is no restricted driver available
[14:59] <kevin_> but i think that if i tell x to use the radeon driver then they will work
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/T41_XOrg_Conf
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: i'd use the screen, device and display sections
[15:00] <white_pelican> can someone answer my question?
[15:01] <kevin_> the title of that page says no 3d
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: maybe if you tell the apps what browser to use they will open in that browser
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: hmmm
[15:02] <white_pelican> I wanted the choice
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: make sure youare using the radeon driver
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: wow someone who uses more than firefox, i'm shocked
[15:03] <kevin_> ActionParsnip: what are the ati drivers that come with x.. radeon and radeonhd and something else right?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: it could be a service menu, but i'm not sure they will be used in apps like that
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: theres frglx which are proprietary
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: i cant really advise passed this kind of level as I avoid ati like paris hilton
[15:04] <kevin_> that one never works as well as the opensource one though from my expirience correct?
[15:04] <kevin_> yea tell me about it it isnt my laptop
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> gah
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/363238 may have some clues
[15:07] <faileas> ActionParsnip: wine dosen't do drivers. so chances are virtualbox won't work
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> faileas: yep, it failed
[15:09] <luis> Guys, i have one problem, the resolution of my kubuntu is not good for my laptop
[15:09] <luis> 1400, can someone help me pls
[15:10] <faileas> luis: er.. 1400x1050?
[15:10] <luis> ???
[15:10] <luis> yep
[15:10] <kevin_> go to application in your k menu and select system then you'll see the resolution utility
[15:10] <faileas> luis: got a sorta split screen thing?
[15:10] <luis> its all biger
[15:11] <luis> i have installed kubuntu before with the correct resolution
[15:11] <podecoet> would anyone be kind enough to send me a link to the latest NVIDIA linux driver from the website? :( IRC'ing from a shell, X wont start, I'm kinda stuck.
[15:11] <luis> all is smaller and sharper
[15:11] <nighty> hi
[15:11] <luis> i have a nvidia drive too
[15:11] <faileas> ahh
[15:12] <nighty> is there a repository like the neon repository to try out kde 4.3 for jaunty?
[15:12] <ign0ramus> podecoet, what card?
[15:12] <podecoet> ign0ramus: 8800GTS/512
[15:12] <faileas> then you can do what kevin_ said ;)
[15:12] <ign0ramus> podecoet, hang on
[15:12] <podecoet> ign0ramus: thanks!
[15:12] <ign0ramus> podecoet, is that a GeForce, ION, etc?
[15:12] <embraceunity> podecoet: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/180.51/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.51-pkg1.run
[15:13] <ign0ramus> ok there you go! ;)
[15:13] <podecoet> ign0ramus: Yup, GeForce 8800GTS
[15:13] <embraceunity> nighty: no
[15:14] <BluesKaj> embraceunity , is that driver for his card ?
[15:14] <podecoet> ign0ramus: legend! I owe you one!
[15:14] <podecoet> f*** $($&($#*&
[15:14] <ign0ramus> podecoet, embraceunity actually posted it... but i did check and that is the proper link for the 8800GTS
[15:15] <mkargar> how to install kaffeine 1 pre1 in kubuntu 9.04 from repo
[15:15] <mkargar> ?
[15:15] <nighty> embraceunity: maybe i can use the svn source code?
[15:15] <embraceunity> BluesKaj: yea, 8800 isn't legacy
[15:15] <BluesKaj> embraceunity , or is it a generic thing that nvidia made for linux
[15:15] <podecoet> hah sorry, everythings chunky... couldn't tell -- Thanks embraceunity
[15:15] <luis> embraceunity with what program i open and download de driver?
[15:15] <embraceunity> BluesKaj: nvidia makes a big kitchen sink driver for all their new cards, much like ATI, and then relegates everything else to the legacy drivers
[15:16] <podecoet> ign0ramus: dammit, manual labour, I have to manually write the url out since theres no copy/paste :P
[15:16] <embraceunity> nighty: yea you can
[15:16] <embraceunity> nighty: but it is a bitch
[15:16] <ign0ramus> podecoet, ah the tortures of typing!
[15:16] <BluesKaj> embraceunity so whynot use the 180 driver from a package manager , much easier to install
[15:16] <luis> embraceunity with what program i open and download de nvidia driver?
[15:16] <embraceunity> luis: you just run it with sh i think
[15:16] <luis> oh
[15:16] <podecoet> ign0ramus: curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
[15:17] <luis> holda i am new srry, whats that
[15:17] <ign0ramus> podecoet, i've heard that before.... :)
[15:17] <embraceunity> luis: sudo sh filename.run
[15:17] <podecoet> ign0ramus: I guess this makes us friends :P
[15:17] <ign0ramus> podecoet, as far as internet standards go, we are bff's
[15:17] <mkargar> how to install kaffeine 1 pre1 in kubuntu 9.04 from repo?
[15:18] <embraceunity> people still use kaffeine?
[15:18] <mkargar> embraceunity:hmm?
[15:18] <ign0ramus> i was kind of wondering *why* someone would want to install kaffeine, but i didnt say anything :S
[15:19] <embraceunity> mkargar: i thought dragon player superceded it... guess not
[15:19] <embraceunity> mkargar: it seems available here: http://kaffeine.kde.org/?q=download
[15:20] <podecoet> ign0ramus: I forgot to mention, I'm running the AMD64 distro, is there a different driver?
[15:20] <mkargar> embraceunity:Kaffeine is bets App for DVB!
[15:20] <ign0ramus> podecoet, ooh, maybe, let me see
[15:20] <embraceunity> mkargar: says you can just do sudo apt-get install kaffeine
[15:20] <embraceunity> doesn't even list a repo
[15:20] <ign0ramus> podecoet, nope... same driver (looks like for almost all newer cards)
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> !info kaffeine jaunty
[15:21] <mkargar> embraceunity:i want kaffeine 1pre1!
[15:21] <ign0ramus> has anyone been able to get VLC to work in a single window (older behavior)?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> embraceunity: apt-cache search kaff
[15:21] <embraceunity> oh, that sucks
[15:22] <embraceunity> gotta compile yourself
[15:22] <podecoet> ign0ramus: Doh -- It's complaining about using the x86 version instead of x64 :P
[15:23] <ign0ramus> podecoet, Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) --> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.51/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.51-pkg2.run
[15:24] <ign0ramus> podecoet, oops... yes, it *is* different.  sorry, the urls looked the same to me at first
[15:24] <luis> whats the irc for kubuntu es? pls
[15:24] <podecoet> ign0ramus: I will destroy you! And thanks once again :P
[15:25] <ign0ramus> podecoet, haha :)  sorry, and no problem
[15:25] <luis> whats the irc for kubuntu es? pls
[15:25] <ign0ramus> !es > luis
[15:26] <luis> thx
[15:26] <ign0ramus> np
[15:32] <t00r> anybody tried installing 9.04 on an HP mini note 1000?
[15:35] <embraceunity> t00r: no, but do you know about Ubuntu Netbook Remix?
[15:35] <podecoet> just installed intrepid, and it prompted me to install the proprietary drivers. So I did, rebooted, X wouldn't start. Drivers from Nvidia's website don't help
[15:35] <podecoet> please assist :(
[15:35] <t00r> embraceunity: yes i do. my question has to do with the speakers on the HP not working.
[15:36] <t00r> embraceunity: it's acknowledged as a bug in alsa in the 9.04 kernel. there's a newer kernel package that fixes the speaker issue but breaks wifi. the HP mini note uses a broadcom chip.
[15:38] <embraceunity> t00r: well if it is a kernel issue, you could theoretically roll your own kernel using the proper broadcom and speaker stuff... assuming they aren't conflicting
[15:39] <embraceunity> t00r: check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[15:39] <t00r> embraceunity: normally i would. but the notebook isn't mine and has been returned to the owner, who is willing to compromise about the sound issue. i'll just wait for a new kernel package.
[15:42] <eagles0513875> !nfs
[15:43] <luis> ei guys, there was a irc client that it was similiar to MIRC, what was the name?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> luis: xchat
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> !irc > luis
[15:55]  * ActionParsnip hates mirc
[16:00] <nfiveevd> 9.04 is running well on my Dell Mini 9
[16:01] <podecoet> I've officially tried everything I know - I can't get X up and runing after restricted drivers were enabled. Syslog says "X died during startup"
[16:01] <nfiveevd> I had to connect to my wired network 4 updates just after I installed 9.04
[16:03] <newbie> ok I really broke something while trying to reinstall the LAMP stack  can you help this is what happenned: http://pastebin.com/m6f4cfbbf
[16:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone! Since the update from Intrepid to Jaunty my WLAN won't connect anymore. It's a Broadcom BCM4312, the restricted module is loaded and a WPA/WPA2 secure network without any typos in the PSK. Neither NWM (with the latest PPA plasma widget) nor wicd work. Any suggestions where to start troubleshooting?
[16:04] <newbie> hi, btw
[16:06] <newbie> i tried to reinstall the above list, but it just lists about 55 conflicts and errors out
[16:06] <podecoet> MilhousePunkRock: since my install of Intrepid, I cant even boot :P
[16:07] <podecoet> I'm [ ] that close to giving up entirely after 18 months of linux, and reverting to windows :(
[16:07] <robin> newbie:try installing the kde metapackages, kde-core, etc
[16:08] <MilhousePunkRock> podecoet: Anything gone bad during the upgrade?
[16:08] <sunriseparadyse> hello
[16:08] <tlvb> Is it possible to remove the yin/yang/cashew nut/plasma circle quarter button from the desktop? (the one in the upper right corner)
[16:08] <sunriseparadyse> please i need asistence to install driver grapic card gforce 8800 gt
[16:08] <newbie> robin: ok, will do.  but why did it do this?
[16:09] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: did you do a custom install on your drivers to begin with?
[16:09] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: something like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=896713
[16:09] <MilhousePunkRock> newbie: It was already enabled in the Restricted Driver manager...
[16:09] <robin> newbie: because some of the packages were dependencies to packages who were depencies to packages, etc.
[16:10] <MilhousePunkRock> newbie: I think that is outdated...
[16:11] <newbie> robin: some sort of circular hiearchy?  that seems dangerous
[16:11] <podecoet> MilhousePunkRock: I didn't upgrade, I opted to format and install from scratch - worked fine, it asked me to install proprietary drivers, I did, then everything caught fire
[16:11] <MilhousePunkRock> newbie: The odd thing is, it detects my network, but it will ask for the PSK over and over again.
[16:12] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: it's 8 month outdated
[16:12] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: orly?  so the driver is there, just non functional?
[16:12] <robin> newbie: not particulair circular, but things live mysql are used by some kde packages
[16:14] <MilhousePunkRock> newbie: Yes, but the card is fine, it works with Windows 7 which is installed also
[16:14] <MilhousePunkRock> podecoet: What kind of drivers did you install
[16:16] <newbie> robin: ahh mysql is the culprit.  but there should still be some sort of one way on dependencies.  I'm installing kde-core and kdeutils, is there anything you think I might be missing from that list?  kdedesktop is outdated.
[16:17] <olandrus> I am a newbie!
[16:17] <robin> newbie:what I know of you have the following metapackages: kdeadmin, kdeaccessibility, kde
[16:17] <robin> kdebase
[16:18] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=927143 maybe?
[16:19] <newbie> robin: that's a hell of a list
[16:19] <ferum> hi all
[16:19] <MilhousePunkRock> I already found descriptions of the same symptom on my entire netbook after the upgrade to jaunty, but none of the things other people did to solve it work for me...
[16:19] <ferum> what is the blocked updates?
[16:20] <ferum> in this section i haave kernel
[16:20] <darkhunter> hi
[16:20] <robin> newbie:the easiest thing to do is just use a package manager, search for kde, and install everything you think is necesary
[16:21] <embraceunity> ferum: blocked updates are usually missing dependencies
[16:21] <ferum> can i install kernel 2.6.29?
[16:21] <ferum> anyone test?
[16:22] <robin> ferum: I don't think you can install it on ubuntu
[16:22] <robin> ferum: you will need a distro that uses it
[16:22] <ferum> i have a deb
[16:22] <embraceunity> ferum: i compiled my own from David Airlie's drm-rawhide branch to test out kernel modesetting on ATI
[16:22] <embraceunity> it worked
[16:23] <podecoet> MilhousePunkRock: the ones in the package repository, and also the ones on the nVidia website, both have the same effect
[16:23] <MilhousePunkRock> podecoet: Do you have a rare configuration maybe?
[16:23] <MilhousePunkRock> podecoet: Like VERY new hardware?
[16:24] <newbie> robin: it would be if kpackage wasn't uninstalled
[16:25] <robin> newbie:you can install synaptic
[16:25] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: have you tried setting you network with a PSK password to see if it connects?  That would tell us if it's a CONF issue or otherwise.
[16:26] <newbie> robin: I know.
[16:26] <MilhousePunkRock> newbie: You mean without a PSK, don't you?
[16:27] <ferum> how i can install mysql and configure it
[16:27] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: hmm I guess I do.  so this is a PSK issue, not a hardware issue?  can you connect to an open network (no password)?
[16:28] <newbie> !mysql
[16:28] <ferum> and what gui mysql db editor have?
[16:28] <robin> ferum: you can install phpmyadmin with apt
[16:29] <ferum> no i'm need analog heide sql
[16:29] <robin> a mysql console?
[16:29] <ferum> gui
[16:29] <ferum> editor
[16:30] <robin> phpmyadmin is a gui editor
[16:30] <ferum> whould be better install kernel from deb or from source?
[16:30] <robin> I think a deb would be easier
[16:30] <ubuntu> thanks to all who helped me
[16:31] <MilhousePunkRock> newbie: I don't have an open network at hand, but I could of course disable encryption briefly, just to try...
[16:32] <ferum> but missing depences
[16:32] <newbie> ferum: heidisql isn't in the repositories, you will have to get it from http://www.heidisql.com/? if that s what you require
[16:33] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: yeah let's dothat
[16:33] <ferum> how install mysql
[16:33] <newbie> !mysql > ferum
[16:33] <shadowhywind> anyone around up with random(many) questions about dd
[16:34] <MilhousePunkRock> newbie: Well then, I'll be right back
[16:34] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: ok.
[16:34] <robin> apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[16:34] <ferum> i need only mysql
[16:34] <robin> and apt-get install mysql-client-5.0
[16:35] <robin> ferum:user apt-get or a package manager
[16:35] <ferum> robin you know any IDE for c++ development
[16:35] <ferum> analog VS 2008
[16:35] <robin> ferum:kdevelop
[16:36] <ferum> okay
[16:36] <ferum> anyone update to kde 4.2.3?
[16:37] <ferum> anyone have problem?
[16:37] <newbie> ferum: what is your computer knowledge versus your linux knowledge?  you ask some interesting questions
[16:37] <embraceunity> ferum: i updated to kde 4.2.3
[16:37] <ubuntu> mine is mostly comp but i am leaving the windy world of windows behind
[16:37] <embraceunity> no problems
[16:38] <ferum> i don't newbie in linux
[16:38] <ferum> but i don't know about kernel in kubuntu
[16:38] <ferum> i ask because i want info about any troubles
[16:39] <newbie> ferum: what do you know about computers/networking in general?
[16:39] <ubuntu> wat do u need to know about networking
[16:40] <ferum> I'm learning c++
[16:40] <luis_> guys my keyboard is not correct
[16:40] <luis_> i think kubuntu has english keyboard turned on
[16:40] <luis_> but mine is spanish
[16:40] <newbie> ubuntu: I'm fine, just gauging what ferum is trying to accomplish
[16:40] <luis_> how i can change that
[16:41] <newbie> luis > !es
[16:41] <ferum> i tryed many distro
[16:41] <newbie> !es > luis
[16:41] <ferum> but kubuntu like me now
[16:41] <newbie> luis system settings keyboard
[16:42] <ferum> anyone have problem with jockey kde?
[16:42] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: any update? I need to leave soon
[16:42] <MilhousePunkRock> newbie: Interestingly enough, it does connect when it's unprotected
[16:42] <MilhousePunkRock> So it's an WPA issue
[16:42] <ubuntu> im installing linux and it says 120%
[16:42] <ubuntu> lol
[16:42] <ferum> my jockey kde crashes
[16:42] <luis_> newbie, now what
[16:43] <ferum> and anyone can help?
[16:43] <ubuntu> who here uses ultimate edit ubuntu
[16:43] <ferum> my friend hasn't enternet connection
[16:44] <ferum> but i'm want give him all my updates
[16:44] <ferum> downloaded
[16:44] <ferum> how this doing?
[16:44] <ubuntu> bye setup finished
[16:44] <ferum> expect copy apt/cache
[16:45] <bazhang> ferum, aptoncd
[16:45] <bazhang> !aptoncd | ferum
[16:45] <newbie> luis: I'm sorry I don't know, I broke my kde, but there should be a keyboard driver in there.  go to the spanish forum for more info
[16:45] <newbie> !es
[16:46] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: you are not alone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1110241
[16:46] <ferum> xth
[16:46] <drbobb> ugh, I'm afraid that on my laptop, jaunty is a total failure
[16:47] <drbobb> hardy handled the h/w a lot better
[16:47]  * drbobb is considering switching distros (as if that could help)
[16:47] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: try this please https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/52922
[16:48] <embraceunity> drbobb: what problems are you having specifically?
[16:48] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: oops I mean iwlist wlan0 scan
[16:48] <drbobb> embraceunity: mostly with the vga driver
[16:48] <ferum> when i going to my friend i print apt-cdrom add?
[16:49] <drbobb> problems, as in fails to work at all, Xorg either segfaults or causes a system lockup
[16:49] <ferum> or if i install on flash
[16:49] <ferum> how connetc repo?
[16:49] <embraceunity> drbobb: what card?
[16:49] <drbobb> embraceunity: in 32bit mode, I have managed to make it work with some serious workarounds and with seriously degraded performance
[16:50] <bazhang> !info aptoncd
[16:50] <drbobb> in 64bit, nothing works
[16:50] <drbobb> embraceunity: a SiS integrated chip
[16:50] <bazhang> ferum, create the disc, then add as a repo source
[16:51] <drbobb> I guess I should be decent and submit a bundle of bug reports before I switch
[16:51] <embraceunity> drbobb: please do
[16:51] <drbobb> but apparently the SiS driver is unmaintained and can't be expected to be fixed
[16:52] <embraceunity> drbobb: xserver can be downgraded though
[16:52] <drbobb> embraceunity: i tried that too, an failed
[16:53] <drbobb> I believe there must be some serious issues between the sis driver and the newer kernel
[16:53] <t00r> sis hardware is flaky.
[16:53] <JukeBoxHero> hey fellas, case in point Dolphin, when you boot up fresh into KDE, do you get automounted partitions without the manual entries in /etc/fstab?
[16:53] <t00r> i've had nothing but bad experiences with sis chipsets.
[16:55] <embraceunity> JukeBoxHero: it will autodetect paritions and give you the option to mount
[16:55] <drbobb> t00r: I agree, they're crap. unfortunately I can't afford a new laptop at this time
[16:55] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: did you run that?
[16:55] <drbobb> t00r: and it is a fact that hardy worked well enough
[16:55] <JukeBoxHero> embraceunity: in the sense you have to click on the partitions and provide root pass ?
[16:55] <JukeBoxHero> to mount them
[16:55] <newbie> MilhousePunkRock: crap, I'm totally late now.  sorry
[16:55] <embraceunity> JukeboxHero: yea, just double clicking should do the trick, though i don't usually remember having to grant root accees
[16:56] <embraceunity> access*
[16:56] <MilhousePunkRock> newbie: Yeah, me too... We'll go on tomorrow, thx a bunch for the help
[16:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Have a nice day
[16:56] <Guest75530> is there any way to hide ur network from other network users
[16:57] <t00r> drbobb: which sis chipset is it? i have a 1.2 ghz celery + sis chipset running as a server.
[16:57] <JukeBoxHero> embraceunity: so in one word yes or no, you (double)click on the partition, it gets mounted right?
[16:57] <embraceunity> yes
[16:57] <JukeBoxHero> great, just what i wanted to know, thanks :)
[16:57] <ghouly> hi all, a question about upgrade from jaunty to hardy : i downloaded the jaunty alternate cd iso to speed the upgrade up since i have low bandwidth,  i have to add it to /etc/apt/sources.list  somehow, right ? what's the syntax for adding a cd like that ? i've got it mounted on /media/cdrom0
[16:57] <ferum> any have prolem with jockey kde?
[17:00] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does anyone know if there is a fix yet for the "A problem we were no" errors in KPackageKit yet?
[17:01] <ghouly> nvm, found it in adept menus
[17:10] <eagles0513875> can someone help me out with nfs
[17:11] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo eagles0513875
[17:12] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does anyone know if there is a fix yet for the "A problem we were no" errors in KPackageKit yet?
[17:13] <eagles0513875> bazhang: im stuck on a step
[17:14] <eagles0513875> im adding the share that i have on the machine that im on but for some reason when it comes to exporting it it says the share doesnt exist
[17:14] <eagles0513875> do you have to give the relative path or the absolute
[17:16] <BluesKaj> CoJaBo-Aztec, there is a solution to the kpackagekit prob , use adept or synaptic or atitude or apt ...kpackagekit doesn't work for me either
[17:17] <BluesKaj> adept can still be installed thru the cli if needed
[17:17] <CoJaBo-Aztec> BluesKaj: Right now I am stuck with using apt-get, which doesnt have search AFAIK. What other package manager works well in Jaunty? Adept was the one in Hardy, and that seemed to work well.
[17:18] <Captain_Haddock> CoJaBo-Aztec: apt-cache search
[17:18] <cnu> if i do Ubuntu Netinstall and choose "Kubuntu Desktop" when selecting package set, will it become the same as downloading kubuntu iso and installing?
[17:18] <Captain_Haddock> anybody have any experience installing kubuntu via live USB and the alternate ISO? I'm using unetbootin
[17:19] <BluesKaj> CoJaBo-Aztec, i would install adept  if you need a gui , but I've been using apt and aptitude to upgrade or update
[17:19] <Captain_Haddock> I can't get it to use the USB drive as the CDROM... is there a commandline option for that?
[17:20] <CoJaBo-Aztec> BluesKaj: I've been using apt-get too, but the problem is it is hard without being able to search through the packages to see what they are.
[17:21] <BluesKaj> CoJaBo-Aztec , sudo apt get-install adept  :)
[17:21] <BluesKaj> oops sudo apt-get install adept
[17:22] <CoJaBo-Aztec> BluesKaj: Ok, thanks!
[17:23] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Appearently Jaunty's version of VLC is also broken...
[17:27] <BluesKaj> CoJaBo-Aztec, I just tried playback with VLC and it works ok.
[17:27] <BluesKaj> what probs are you having ?
[17:30] <CoJaBo-Aztec> BluesKaj: The video appears in a seperate window, and fullscreen navigation does not work because of that.
[17:30] <luis> ei guys can someone help me
[17:30] <luis> i cant see youtube videos
[17:31] <luis> whats the problem
[17:31] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Do you have flash?
[17:31] <pucko-> captain_haddock, that's probably up the the bios.
[17:31] <luis> nop, can u help me install it?
[17:31] <BluesKaj> !flash
[17:31] <luis> btw i also have another problem
[17:31] <luis> my keyboard is a spanish one
[17:31] <pucko-> captain_haddoc, you will have to look there and see if there's any option to set it either way
[17:31] <akiem> Download flash in debian format
[17:32] <luis> but kubuntu has it as an english one
[17:32] <luis> how i can correct that?
[17:32] <Captain_Haddock> pucko-: I can boot into the USB drive fine and access the installer... the installer however is looking for the install files on a CD-ROM drive
[17:32] <pucko-> oh
[17:32] <akiem> to install Flash.... Use Terminal
[17:33] <akiem> sudo dpkg -i install flash.deb
[17:33] <BluesKaj> !pm | luis
[17:33] <CoJaBo-Aztec> luis: In system settings, there is an option to change the layout.
[17:33] <Captain_Haddock> Regional & Language
[17:34] <luis> i am in keyboard laout
[17:34] <luis> layout
[17:34] <luis> what now
[17:34] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-restricted-extras | luis
[17:34] <luis> lol
[17:34] <bazhang> !extras
[17:35] <Captain_Haddock> luis: in regional and language?
[17:35] <bazhang> that's wrong factoid for extras
[17:35] <luis> yes
[17:35] <luis> btw there is not a button to write ur complete name
[17:36] <Captain_Haddock> luis: you see a list of layouts here?
[17:36] <luis> ok i am in layout tab
[17:36] <luis> let me enable keyboard layout
[17:36] <luis> albania, andorra....
[17:36] <luis> what I choose
[17:37] <Captain_Haddock> spain
[17:37] <luis> done, i choose latin america :)
[17:37] <luis> thx
[17:38] <Captain_Haddock> that works too... double click on it so that it goes to the right pane
[17:38] <Captain_Haddock> highlight the layout and choose any variants from the drop-down below
[17:38] <luis> thx, all is done, i have the correct keyboard layout
[17:38] <luis> now*
[17:38] <Captain_Haddock> righto then
[17:39] <luis> btw how i can enter kubuntu irc and not ubuntu irc?
[17:39] <luis> in konversation
[17:40] <Captain_Haddock> F2 and edit server's default channels
[17:41] <luis> but what i enter there
[17:41] <bazhang> #kubuntu
[17:42] <wizardslovak> hello
[17:42] <wizardslovak> i need little help with partitioning
[17:42] <eclix> ola
[17:42] <wizardslovak> my disk is 160gb ,how many of it should be boot,/,and home?