[00:00] <Stroganoff> i know, Pici
[00:00] <concept10> i keep getting sata errors.. anyone know boot arguments for a safe boot of the install cd?
[00:00] <coincoin169> hello all
[00:00] <HardyOne> errrrr nm :/
[00:00] <gregcha117> my sound is completely screwed can someone help me out?
[00:00] <eisenhower> should wpa_supplicant be installed by defualt on gutsy?
[00:01] <chris710> hi, i need some help cos i installed ubuntu 7.10 on my portable computer and my touchpad don't work,who can help me?
[00:01] <sz90> concept10: here's what I used: defaults,errors=remount-ro
[00:01] <gregcha117> when i click on my volume icon is says there are no gstreamer plugins or devices found
[00:01] <aetaric> chris710: check for the synaptic drivers
[00:01] <sz90> also, the device was referenced in fstab by the uuid, not the /dev/*
[00:01] <aetaric> thats only thing i can think of
[00:02] <nikrud> !grub | Steven1
[00:02] <ubotu> Steven1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:02] <stefg> Odd-rationale: one thing coming to my mind is: there's a hidden file  /media/.hal-mtab that might contain outdated info. Unmount the drive and delete that file
[00:02] <kindofabuzz> whats up with grub2?  anyone messed with it?
[00:02] <coincoin169> have you any troubleshooting with the sound in hardy heron beta ?
[00:02] <Odd-rationale> stefg: will look. Reboot after?
[00:03] <stefg> Odd-rationale: log out, log in should do
[00:03] <Pici> !hardy | coincoin169
[00:03] <ubotu> coincoin169: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[00:03] <chris710> aetaruc> i did sudo apt-get install gsynaptics and i installed it but it does'nt work(ps: i'm new in linux)
[00:03] <Canaris_> hey
[00:04] <chris710> aeratic>sorry^^
[00:04] <Canaris_> I am currently running Ubuntu 7.10 alpha and I was wondering If installing Ubuntu Server (7.10) would give me the possibility to end up with a more minimal system after the installation?
[00:04] <chris710> aetaric
[00:04] <Canaris_> oops...forget the 'alpha'
[00:04] <fk7_se> anyone here using google adsense
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> stefg: brb
[00:05]  * Canaris_ does
[00:05] <stefg> !minimal | Canaris_
[00:05] <ubotu> Canaris_: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[00:05] <kindofabuzz> Canaris_: server edition is ubuntu without the GUI
[00:05] <kindofabuzz> plus some more stuff can be added at install
[00:05] <aetaric> its all good...run cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep mouse
[00:05] <Canaris_> well I cant use the minimal cd, because i only have a wifi connection (WPA) available
[00:05] <Canaris_> so netinstall CDs are pretty much out of the question
[00:06] <Canaris_> fk7_se, what do u wanna know abbuot adsense?
[00:06] <subsume> I used the ubuntu upgrade instructions from Feisty to Gusty and now my computer starts up and only shows a blinking underscore.
[00:06] <fk7_se> well one thing i want to know is can you put it on a googlepage page
[00:06] <chris710> aetaric>grep mouse?
[00:06] <fk7_se> and is it worth it?
[00:06] <Canaris_> googlepage page??
[00:07] <stefg> Canaris_: you can still use a repo on CD...
[00:07] <aetaric> | grep mouse
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> stefg: nope
[00:07] <Stroganoff> subsume: do you see the grub "loading.." screen beforehand?
[00:07] <stefg> !install | Canaris_
[00:07] <ubotu> Canaris_: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[00:07] <aetaric> | pipes the output to another program
[00:07] <subsume> Stroganoff: yeah
[00:07] <FearedBliss> how can i partition my hdd via gui
[00:07] <HardyOne> unop_, thanks for your help
[00:07] <FearedBliss> i mean cli
[00:07] <FearedBliss> i have a ibook g3
[00:07] <FearedBliss> so far i "mklabel mac"
[00:07] <subsume> Stroganoff: in default mode I can get all the way to login but logon hangs
[00:07] <FearedBliss> to create the /dev/hda1 Apple partition
[00:07] <subsume> Stroganoff: default = debug
[00:08] <Stroganoff> subsume, use a livecd and check your syslog
[00:08] <FearedBliss> mkpart primary HFS START ENd
[00:08] <FearedBliss> i dont know how to use START END
[00:08] <Stroganoff> subsume, it's located at /var/log/syslog
[00:08] <aetaric> we want to pipe the cat of the X11 config file to grep which searches for a pattern and the pattern we want is mouse
[00:08] <stefg> Canaris_: so would need a mininal and an alternate CD. the alternate is just for providing the packages you want, not for avtual installation
[00:08] <happy_tu1> hello i have a question about the command ...gnome-screenshot...
[00:08] <Stroganoff> happy_tu1: ask away
[00:08] <chris710> aetaric>can you help me in pm please?
[00:08] <mental_> hello
[00:08] <happy_tu1> what attributes can i put to save without any interaction
[00:09] <gail> How can I set up a wifi ad-hoc network?
[00:09] <Canaris_> stefg, ahh ok. didnt know that you could combine the too
[00:09] <Stroganoff> happy_tu1: gnome-screenshot --help
[00:09] <Stroganoff> or use scrot
[00:09] <happy_tu1> just to save to a dir and continue
[00:09] <Canaris_> stefg, thx. I'll give it a try!
[00:09] <Strife89> Quick tip: Google "Universal Extractor". Very useful for pulling files from Windows installer programs.
[00:09] <fk7_se> i have a good question, how does microsoft stay in business?
[00:09] <happy_tu1> i looked at the help
[00:09] <Stroganoff> fk7_se: vendor lock-in.
[00:09] <Stroganoff> fk7_se: embrace, extend, extinguish
[00:09] <happy_tu1> always i get the dialogue box to save as
[00:10] <HardyOne> !offtopic | fk7_se great question ....
[00:10] <ubotu> fk7_se great question ....: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:10] <subsume> Stroganoff: if I pasted it could you tell me anything about it?
[00:10] <fk7_se> i mean its just my opinion but gusty blows vista out the water
[00:10] <Stroganoff> fk7_se: microsoft is a completely new singularity in capitalism
[00:10] <Stroganoff> subsume: someone might tell you something about it. use pastebin.
[00:11] <intarwebz> microsoft the lawsuit company?
[00:11] <pantaloon> i'm about to give up on ubuntu and reinstall xp...do developers actually use their computers? how do i burn a file larger than 4gb?
[00:11] <stefg> Odd-rationale: i would have a look at dmesg for suspicious messages, otherwise i run out of ideas (and am too tired to do proper troubleshooting) ;)
[00:11] <Odd-rationale> stefg: OK. Thanks!
[00:11] <aetaric> pantaloon to a dvd
[00:11] <kindofabuzz> does suspend even work for anyone in gutsy?
[00:11] <kindofabuzz> !suspend
[00:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:11] <pantaloon> duh, i'm talking about a single file larger than 4gb
[00:12] <Stroganoff> kindofabuzz: yep, me. i'm using ibm thinkpad though.
[00:12] <chris710> aetaric>please^^
[00:12] <kindofabuzz> Stroganoff: well i have a desktop, put suspend or hib don't work properly
[00:12] <aetaric> chris710: yes. sry im on a diff client then you so im for me is a little diff
[00:12] <c-ron> chris710, do you got a terminal open?
[00:12] <pantaloon> it doesn't work in ubuntu's burner or brasero
[00:12] <Stroganoff> kindofabuzz: thats a shame :/
[00:13] <Stroganoff> kindofabuzz: check syslog
[00:13] <aetaric> chris710:you are a registared user correct?
[00:13] <chris710> c-ron>..yes
[00:13] <pantaloon> i refuse to buy nero linux just to burn large files
[00:13] <chris710> yes
[00:13] <Stroganoff> pantaloon: k3b
[00:13] <c-ron> chris710, paste into terminal:  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep mouse
[00:13] <fk7_se> i do have a weird problem, dreamweaver 8 used to run in wine before i reinstalled gusty, now it does not work, any ideas?
[00:13] <chris710> i have already done it
[00:13] <c-ron> chris710, what did it say?
[00:14] <chris710> Driver   "mouse"
[00:14] <kindofabuzz> is there a linux utility or command that will list my motherboard make and model?
[00:14] <stefg> kindofabuzz: usually this is caused by restricted drivers misbehaving, or half-broken acpi (which is mended by dirty hacks in other OS's). but the gutsy kernel isn't the best one anyway, so wait for hardy
[00:14] <aetaric> chris710: hmmmmm..let him help you i haven't the slightest idea...did you restart?
[00:14] <eisenhower> how do i move something in root?
[00:15] <kindofabuzz> stefg: thanks
[00:15] <eisenhower> well to /etc   keeps saying i dont have permission
[00:15] <gail> Is there a way to check if a wifi link is up and running from the command line in ubuntu?
[00:15] <chris710> aetaric>how can i restart(do you wanna say reboot?
[00:15] <kindofabuzz> eisenhower: mv or cp
[00:15] <eisenhower> ty
[00:15] <FearedBliss> how do i say "end of disk" in part : mkpart primary reiserfs 1 <end>
[00:15] <zcat[1]> !sudo | eisenhower
[00:15] <ubotu> eisenhower: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[00:16] <eisenhower> nono kindofabuzz: ansered my question. =)
[00:16] <aetaric> chris710: run sudo init 6 or sudo reboot or sudo shutdown -r now
[00:16] <kindofabuzz> mv is move cp is copy
[00:16] <Aloha> is there a #ubuntu-offtopic channel?
[00:17] <alan_m> !ot
[00:17] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:17] <domenico> ciao
[00:17] <subsume> ivman is giving me installation problems
[00:17] <fk7_se> is there any software close to dreamweaver functionality, i've install NVU (which is pretty good for free)
[00:17] <subsume> choking dpkg
[00:20] <maimster> Sup everyone.
[00:20] <c-ron> hola maimster
[00:20] <sjovan> any one that can help me out? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4573456#post4573456 <--- it's about gnump3d password protection
[00:21] <amias> fk7_se, have you tried bluefish
[00:21] <wantE17style> are servers often attacked?
[00:21] <fk7_se> i've seen it but i think i tried about a year ago
[00:22] <kindofabuzz> found one, sysinfo
[00:22] <fk7_se> i'll get it again and see
[00:22] <amias> fk7_se, do you need wysiwyg
[00:22] <alan_m> and with THAT show stopper peace out.
[00:22] <wantE17style> anyone?
[00:22] <bune> servers
[00:22] <bune> what kind
[00:23] <amias> wantE17style, whos ? how ?
[00:23] <wantE17style> my ubuntu lamp server is being pinged and syn flooded constantly
[00:23] <bune> oh
[00:23] <bune> whod you piss off
[00:23] <Odd-rationale> stefg: Found the solution in the forums. New I should have gone there first but I was kind of lazy... :P
[00:23] <Odd-rationale> *knew
[00:23] <wantE17style> it's a tor/freenet server
[00:24] <aetaric> wantE17style: sounds like a DDOS attack
[00:24] <stefg> Odd-rationale: so solve the mystery ... for the log
[00:24] <bune> maybe someone on tor decided to flood you?
[00:24] <wantE17style> are syn flood attacks /pings of death directed attacks?
[00:24] <wantE17style> aetaric yes I agree
[00:24] <wantE17style> yes but why?
[00:24] <amias> wantE17style, they can happen , is it one particular ip or lots ?
[00:24] <pimplife> i cant get an internet connection to my router
[00:24] <wantE17style> is it some general attack by a repressive government?
[00:24] <pantaloon> Stroganoff, I installed K3b and it says "It is not possible to add files bigger than 4GB"
[00:24] <pimplife> help
[00:24] <bune> maybe a botnet owner
[00:24] <wantE17style> only one
[00:24] <bune> oh
[00:24] <bune> then no
[00:24] <Odd-rationale> stefg: Let me pull that link up again...
[00:25] <amias> wantE17style,  what does the server do , where is it hosted ?
[00:25] <Stroganoff> pantaloon: that seems to be an UDF limitation
[00:25] <Strife89> When I run certain programs, the application "taskbar" says it's starting the program, but soon after, it stops. This happens especially with games, so I assume that Ubuntu is stopping them from running because it fears the graphic load will slow it down too much. Any suggestions to force it to let the app run anyway?
[00:25] <fredmv> running into a weird problem here guys...
[00:25] <wantE17style> it's only a Tor/Freenet server currently
[00:25] <stefg> pantaloon: thats a restriction of ISO9660 .. you need UDF for files > 4 GB
[00:25] <fredmv> I'm running 7.10/gutsy, booted into a supposed Xfce session, but it's acting like gnome (context menus, etc.).
[00:25] <pantaloon> how do I burn UDF in ubuntu?
[00:25] <fredmv> first time I've ever seen this happen
[00:26] <Stroganoff> pantaloon: dont mind my last remark
[00:26] <aetaric> SYN packet flooding is a tale tale sign of DDOS attacks. setup shorewall or another firewall to drop packets from an IP after X number of SYN packets are recieved
[00:26] <wantE17style> does ubuntu linux protect automatically against syn floods?
[00:26] <pimplife> i cant get an internet connection
[00:26] <stefg> pantaloon: check the k3b howto... i never used that, but i'm pretty confident that k3b can do it
[00:26] <Strife89> By the way, I'm using an NVidia TNT2 graphics card, and I'm using restricted drivers for it.
[00:26] <astheglorious> hey guys
[00:26] <Stroganoff> pantaloon: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=414797
[00:26] <wantE17style> ok , I use firestarter
[00:26] <Stroganoff> use google, pantaloon
[00:26] <stefg> !k3b | pantaloon
[00:26] <ubotu> pantaloon: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[00:26] <Strife89>  I tried running some of the programs in an XFE session. They won't even try to start.
[00:26] <astheglorious> ndiswrapper is choking on 64 bit drivers
[00:26] <kindofabuzz> i use a router =)
[00:27] <Strife89> Some programs I try to run SHOULDN'T even slow things sown much. Anyone heard of Cave Story (2D platform-style game)?
[00:27] <wantE17style> but won't I stop tor and freenet from working if I tell the firewall to block after a certain number of syn packets??
[00:27] <Strife89> The program I'm trying to run has a configuration program (which is separate). In addition, I have a copy of the Windows version. The Windows config runs under Wine, but when I start the main program, it quits a second later.
[00:27] <honkkopf> HELLO i am just instaling vmware server and i dont know how i accept the konfiguration through the eula could you help me?
[00:27] <aetaric> no you want it to block 1 ip the source
[00:28] <aetaric> i'll find you a site
[00:28] <Strife89> Back to my question: I assume Ubuntu stops programs when it thinks they'll tax my system. Can I force it to let them run anyway?
[00:28] <pimplife> i cant get an internet connection?
[00:28] <Stroganoff> honkkopf: is this an ubuntu issue?
[00:28] <stefg> honkkopf: #vmware
[00:28] <honkkopf> yes
[00:28] <wantE17style> but I read that spoofing ip addresses is common for pings of death and syn floods
[00:28] <Stroganoff> elaborate, honkkopf
[00:28] <subsume> How do I have dpkg reconfigure all?
[00:28] <subsume> dpkg-reconfigure -a?
[00:28] <honkkopf> stroganoff: yes it is because of the console funktion
[00:28] <bune> Anyone setup their ipod touch successfully with amarok? Amarok just constantly asks for password with OpenSSH <_<
[00:29] <aetaric> it is and most firewalls will realize that ips are spoffed
[00:29] <astheglorious> can anyone help with ndiswrapper on 64 bit ubuntu?
[00:29] <Stroganoff> honkkopf, have you tried the TAB key
[00:29] <gasparch> hi there :) are there some screencast or podcast courses on ubuntu? i
[00:29] <aetaric> *spoofed
[00:29] <honkkopf> perfekt thank you
[00:29] <volkodav> how do I get gnome to remember my session apps ?
[00:29] <gasparch> i'm looking for commertial screencast or podcast courses on ubuntu ....
[00:29] <wantE17style> there is no option in firestarter for stopping syn floods :( does it do it as a standard function??
[00:29] <stefg> wantE17style: you might consider joining #ubuntu-server or some channel specialized in server security. This isn't exactly an ubuntu support issue
[00:29] <astheglorious> 64 bit ubuntu, trying drivers for realtek 8187B X64, crashes totally when I modprobe ndiswrapper
[00:30] <wantE17style> oh I didn't know about that
[00:30] <aetaric> wantE17style: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6749
[00:30] <pimplife> i cant get an internet connection?
[00:30] <pimplife> help
[00:30] <wantE17style> thanks
[00:31] <subsume> Ubuntu hangs at a blinking prompt, Help!!
[00:32] <wantE17style> what about this too? - http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-limit-linux-syn-attacks.html
[00:32] <DoctorAndonuts> this has probably been asked to death but...
[00:32] <aetaric> wantE17style: that should work
[00:32] <DoctorAndonuts> what happened to the ubuntu store
[00:32] <DoctorAndonuts> its broken
[00:32] <icesword> IndyGunFreak, hi,how are you doing there
[00:32] <stefg> subsume: do you get the boot menu, and it boots into the blinking nothing, or is that directly after BIOS POST ?
[00:33] <wantE17style> but those rules won't thwart Tor or Freenet???
[00:33] <IndyGunFreak> icesword: surviving
[00:33] <icesword> IndyGunFreak, er,what happened
[00:33] <IndyGunFreak> icesword: just tired.
[00:33] <icesword> IndyGunFreak, can you be more clear?
[00:34] <IndyGunFreak> icesword: uh, i'm just tired.. working alot, etc.. nothing that serious
[00:34] <icesword> IndyGunFreak, then have a holiday,
[00:34] <aetaric> jus make sure you use the right ports and it shouldn't
[00:34] <IndyGunFreak> icesword: i try, i try
[00:35] <aetaric> i run iptables for my proxy site
[00:35] <aetaric> and for my smtp mail daemon
[00:35] <wantE17style> what if they ping of death/syn flood the tor/freenet ports?
[00:36] <subsume> stefg: yes
[00:36] <subsume> stefg: If I boot into debug mode I can get to a login prompt but if I attempt to login it hangs forever
[00:36] <aetaric> it should drop packets for the offending ip addresses
[00:36] <wantE17style> ok.......thank you
[00:37] <stefg> subsume: so i take it that your xserver died. ATI card ?
[00:37] <aetaric> if you need more help im sure the people in #ubuntu-server know iptables pretty well you could ask them
[00:37] <subsume> stefg: ...no, because debug mode just goes to prompt....
[00:37] <kindofabuzz> wantE17style: just get a good router and don't worry about it =)
[00:37] <subsume> stefg: this is right after a dist-upgrade
[00:37] <subsume> stefg: mysteriously my wifi card is gone too
[00:38] <astheglorious> help :'(
[00:38] <narothepharoh> #Xubuntu
[00:38] <subsume> stefg: and my network card if ifconfig is any indication
[00:38] <kindofabuzz> replace the firmware with dd-wrt and you'll be alright
[00:38] <stefg> subsume: yeah... so you got a new kernel, but probably the restricted driver failed to upgrade. Can you boot with the old kernel?
[00:38] <wantE17style> kindofabuzz: good routers are expensive :P I am searching for a cisco router on ebay
[00:38] <Odd-rationale> stefg: ok. Found it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3254924&postcount=11
[00:38] <aetaric> kindofabuzz: i have a cisco 3620 series router.......but i can still get SYN flooded....
[00:38] <wantE17style> no my cheap router is awful :P
[00:38] <subsume> stefg: sure but how do i get those restricted drivers back?
[00:38] <kindofabuzz> $60 is expensive?
[00:39] <subsume> stefg: they must be available because a clean desktop install of ubuntu installs the card just fine
[00:39] <RockmanDensetsu> Hello
[00:39] <kindofabuzz> like i said, put DD_WRT firmware on your cheap router and poof, you got a #600 router
[00:39] <wantE17style> all the $60 routers I used are terrible
[00:39] <kindofabuzz> $600
[00:39] <RockmanDensetsu> I have troubles with my Mic.
[00:39] <RxDx> i have a GF 6200 (AGP).. should i install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?
[00:39] <aetaric> yeah $600 is expensive
[00:39] <wantE17style> I ried to install dd-wrt but my dlink router is not supported :'(
[00:40] <stefg> subsume: what card is that?
[00:40] <kindofabuzz> RxDx: i suggest using Envy, it will pick the best driver
[00:40] <wantE17style> I will buy a used cisco router on ebay :P
[00:40] <kindofabuzz> dd-wrt is the best thing i've ever done to my router
[00:40] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> RxDx, nvidia-glx-new
[00:40] <wantE17style> it seems great
[00:40] <RxDx> kindofabuzz, i did.. but i can feel that my 3dcard works very better on winxp them ubuntu
[00:40] <wers> quick question. i need a light (doesn't eat much resource) theme. please dont point to me gnome-look.org. please suggest a specific theme. :)
[00:40] <wantE17style> but I need different hardware :P
[00:41] <aetaric> lol wantE17style: what you gonna do about the IOS? know IOS commands?
[00:41] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !envy | RxDx
[00:41] <ubotu> RxDx: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:41] <wantE17style> :P no - I am a newbie to linux :P what is IOS? :-/
[00:41] <askand> Hi! I dont really know how this works..but on the ALSA site one can read about the Creative Labs X-Fi this: "Card delivered to developers. Completely new architecture. Creative actively preventing support due to no datasheets being released to ALSA developers. Reverse engineering work not started due to lack of time.". However the OSS-driver do support this card, cant ALSA use the OSS-code?
[00:42] <aetaric> IOS is the cisco systems firmware...it is cli
[00:42] <subsume> stefg i don't think its restricted because an identical hardware machine doesn't have the wifi card in the device manager
[00:42] <subsume> not as restricted anyway
[00:42] <subsume> how can i tell what the card is?
[00:42] <wantE17style> ohhh , I planned to install dd-wrt on the cisco router :P
[00:42] <rsk> askand: kinda like saying, can't IE use FF code?
[00:42] <wantE17style> can I do that?
[00:42] <stefg> subsume: lspci | grep VGA
[00:42] <aetaric> no GUI there and you have to buy a router online off the cisco site to get IOS
[00:42] <astheglorious> hello, a little help
[00:42] <aetaric> no
[00:42] <michealPW> I volunteered to deploy Ubuntu v7.10 on my friend's Audio Recording computer.  My problem is Cakewalk SONAR and WINE:/
[00:43] <subsume> stefg oh thaty
[00:43] <moogmusic> when i suspend ubuntu 7.10 at my laptop, i dont have a network connection anymore after resuming from suspend. wny help ?
[00:43] <subsume> stefg: i thought we were talking about the wifi card?
[00:43] <askand> rsk: hmm..but isnt there a difference between drivers and programs?
[00:43] <michealPW> Has anyone had success? Anyone know of good alternatives or advice to SONAR with Ubuntu?
[00:43] <wantE17style> there are lots of cisco routers for sale on ebay tho :-/ but no software included
[00:43] <kindofabuzz> wantE17style: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices
[00:43] <michealPW> askand: Technically, wouldn't drivers be considered programs or "software" ?:)
[00:43] <mad_max02> can any of you guys tell me does Cedega work as good or better or wors than wine ??
[00:43] <subsume> stefg its nVidia Corporation NV6 Vanta/Vanta LT
[00:43] <subsume> rev 15
[00:43] <stefg> subsume: no... obviously your x server (the part which does the gui) doesn't work
[00:44] <wantE17style> kindofabuzz - I checked already - my router isn't supported :(
[00:44] <subsume> stefg well the wifi stopped working too
[00:44] <askand> michealPW: yea..ok I see
[00:44] <stefg> subsume: so did you use automatix/envy ?
[00:44] <FearedBliss> does debian etch 4.0r3 have WPA support for Original Airport out of the box ?
[00:45] <FearedBliss> I know 8.04 alpha 6 has it
[00:45] <michealPW> askand: Basically, drivers are software libraries that expose functions, which the operating system uses to interact with your hardware at the kernel level, IIRC.
[00:45] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !debian FearedBliss
[00:45] <subsume> stefg: no idea what you are talking about
[00:45] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !debian | FearedBliss
[00:45] <ubotu> FearedBliss: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[00:46] <FearedBliss> [Hardy]TuTUXG, I already know that its based on it.. the question is does debian have WPA support.. Ubuntu tends to go custom kernel on everyone
[00:46] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> #debian?
[00:46] <FearedBliss> lets c
[00:47] <stefg> subsume: try 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy' then 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[00:48] <subsume> stefg: that computer is tanked man. no wifi. no eth0. no way to apt-get
[00:48] <subsume> man/woman =)
[00:48] <stefg> subsume: ah yes... forgaot
[00:48] <subsume> stefg: its weird because I updated another machine just fine
[00:48] <subsume> (not just fine, its can't do 1200x)
[00:49] <michealPW> Perhaps I could use my friends system to test the latest build of Ubuntu Studio, then:/
[00:49] <stefg> subsume: so check in /etc/X11/xorg.conf if the driver is set to 'nvidia'. change it to 'nv' temporarily and see if that gives you a gui for starters
[00:49] <michealPW> I really hope I can get SONAR to work, or at least find something of comparable quality, else I'll have a real hard time preaching the Ubuntu gospel:(
[00:50] <laptor> hello
[00:50] <flick> after i suspend to ram, my eth0 connection does not wake up - did anybody face this problem?
[00:50] <laptor> what's the different between ubuntu dvd and ubuntu cd?
[00:50] <fa1sal> hello
[00:50] <aetaric> laptor: one is a cd the other is a dvd
[00:51] <flick> laptor, dvd contains more packages, which you have to download (if you want to install) if you have a cd
[00:51] <meteor> witam
[00:51] <Stroganoff> flick: does it wake up with sudo if-up
[00:51] <barslow> is it possible to make a .iso bootable backup of exactly how i have ubuntu setup right now?
[00:51] <barslow> including all the packages
[00:51] <subsume> stefg: do I need to restart...?
[00:51] <subsume> stefg: it was nvidia
[00:51] <flick> Stroganoff, nope - it says unknown device eth0=eth0
[00:51] <[dcr]> How can I set a user to automatically login again and remove the password?
[00:51] <laptor> good
[00:51] <stefg> subsume: just 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[00:52] <laptor> on ubuntu dvd kde package
[00:52] <fa1sal> استفسر زياده
[00:52] <laptor> or just gnome
[00:52] <subsume> stefg: bingo
[00:52] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> fa1sal, what?
[00:52] <subsume> stefg: why not just stick with nv?
[00:52] <frank23> Windows installer royally screwed up my partition table. Please read here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60815/   I just want to know if rewriting the partition table as I suggest will work and if there is anything I should watch out for.  Right now I'm in a ubuntu livecd.
[00:53] <fa1sal> no thing
[00:53] <aetaric> i don't even know which channel to send him too
[00:53] <subsume> stefg: oh wait. login is hanging. =)
[00:53] <barslow> is it possible to make a .iso bootable backup of exactly how i have ubuntu setup right now?
[00:53] <subsume> 'failed to initialize HAL'
[00:53] <stefg> subsume: something with the restricted modules went wrong. so you are now on the (non 3D) free nvidia driver.
[00:53] <flick> Stroganoff, it actually says "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[00:53] <laptor> one more on ubuntu dvd kde package or just gnome
[00:54] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !ubuntu-al | fa1sal
[00:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-al - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:54]  * akumar_ be back after 9:30 eastern
[00:54] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !ubuntu-ar | fa1sal
[00:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-ar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:54] <[dcr]> !gdm | [dcr]
[00:54] <fa1sal> ok
[00:54] <jedi-alex> hello, im a newbie and im tring for over 4 hours to install ubuntu 7.10 (stable) but without results... im booting with cd and choosing installation but it always freezes (same with v8 beta)

[00:55] <subsume> stefg: someway i can upgrade and default to these restricted drivers?
[00:55] <jedi-alex> it seems that there is an incompatibility issue but how can i know the reason?
[00:55] <kindofabuzz> jedi-alex: try the alternate cd
[00:55] <FullMon-T> help.
[00:55] <kindofabuzz> !alternate
[00:55] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[00:55] <jedi-alex> it doesnt give any message, just freezing at the logo and the progress bar
[00:55] <FullMon-T> I need help building my message.lst
[00:55] <astheglorious> with wpa supplicant, how do you specify a hex key?
[00:55] <madman91> hello all
[00:55] <stefg> subsume: yeah... gutsy can be a pita. why not take a neat backup, do a fresh hardy beta install, (hardy works exceptionally well already) and just skip gutsy? It's not worth the effort with all the troubleshootung, to be honest. gutsy is/was a dud
[00:56] <Schmeiz> hello
[00:56] <jedi-alex> kindofabuzz thanks man
[00:56] <amortvigil> is there a ogg to mp3 converter wich converts all files in specified directories?
[00:56] <madman91> is it possible to set SSH up in such a way that certain users can use passwords to login, but others can only use ssh-keys?
[00:56] <laptor> falsal he ask about ubuntu dvd
[00:56] <laptor> kde package on ubuntu dvd
[00:56] <laptor> or no
[00:56] <fa1sal> والله مدري وش تقول
[00:57] <danand> jedi-alex - try editing the kernel options at the boot screen - press f6 and remove "quiet splash" - then boot. You should see where and what is causing the install or boot to hang
[00:57] <michealPW> laptor: I don't believe KDE is on the Ubuntu DVD, unless you mean the Kubuntu DVD. It's in the repositories, however.
[00:57] <michealPW> Are they called repositories? I mean to say, you can install it with the Synaptic Package Manager:)
[00:57] <kindofabuzz> amortvigil: check out http://sox.sourceforge.net/
[00:57] <michealPW> 8giggles8
[00:57] <subsume> stefg: will hardy play well with a gusty server?
[00:58] <subsume> stefg: I'm in a 40 computer lab. i can move one to hardy and see how it goes.
thanks
[00:58] <subsume> stefg: can I dist-upgrade to gusty?
[00:58] <michealPW> laptor: Honestly, though.. I had bad experiences with KDE:(
[00:58] <subsume> errrr hardy
[00:58] <GullyFoyle> I would feel like such a wanker if I used wmii. Please help me get past this.
[00:58] <michealPW> laptor: I mean, a lot of them... Straight out the box there were a number of issues that plagued Kubuntu v7.10 for me, including missing MIME types.
[00:58] <subsume> stefg: this machine is still hanging at promtp.
[00:59] <laptor> no I mean ubuntu
[00:59] <stefg> subsume: just to get things straight: From which version did you upgrade to what new version?
[00:59] <laptor> but now I understand you
[00:59] <subsume> stefg: feisty to gusty
[00:59] <laptor> thanks
[00:59] <subsume> whole lab is feisty
[00:59] <nich0s> Does anyone have a reccomendation for a p2p client for ubuntu
[00:59] <subsume> some of the lab is edubuntu
[01:00] <danand> subsume - can you check your logs to see whats causing the hang? look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:00] <kindofabuzz> nich0s: i just use limewire and for totrrents i use deluge
[01:00] <kindofabuzz> torrents*
[01:00] <michealPW> Laptor: Don't let me discourage you from *trying* KDE, I mean, it's got a lot to brag about, I love Kate (KDE Advanced Text Editor.)
[01:00] <michealPW> I miss it on GNOME:)
[01:00] <subsume> danand: how do you know its X? it happens right after GRUB
[01:00] <danand> subsume - or /var/log/gdm ...
[01:00] <michealPW> Other than that... KDE re-invents the GNOME wheel, with a "K", in my personal opinion.
[01:00] <nich0s> kindofabuzz: THanks :)
[01:01] <costi> hi everyone, whats the name of this nice OSX looking taskbar?
[01:01] <stefg> subsume: ok... so you ended in desaster (like many others). you can spend 6 hours in troubleshooting now, or 2 hours for taking a backup of your data, wiping the disk, install hardy beta from scratch, and restore your personal files
[01:01] <GullyFoyle> I would use Limewire if I were a knob-gobbling tool
[01:01] <michealPW> haha GullyFoyle.
[01:01] <kindofabuzz> GullyFoyle: ?
[01:01] <x1250> If I want to use the new beta ubuntu release, do I have to replace "gutsy" by "hardy" (in sources.list) ?
[01:01] <danand> subsume - oh.. sorry ... kinda confused between eveyones probs then.. :)
[01:01] <subsume> stefg: no backup necessary
[01:01] <subsume> wow. i see error output now
[01:01] <michealPW> LimeWire's good at finding search results, if you're searching for malware.
[01:01] <x1250> is it hardy the new upcoming release?
[01:01] <subsume> device mapper linear dm-linearr device lookup failed
[01:02] <subsume> its just spamming that
[01:02] <GullyFoyle> oops did I say that out loud?
[01:02] <michealPW> Other than that, it struggles to find anything, in my experience.
[01:02] <costi> x1250: yes
[01:02] <stefg> subsume: so just scrap that... not worth the effort. take a fresh hardy install from scratch
[01:02] <subsume> stefg: can i do it from the command line or must i get disk?
[01:02] <x1250> costi: ok, thanks
[01:02] <ThreeFingerPete> by hand i edited xorg.conf to add a resolution to my monitor(it supports it). however, i cannot get it to show up in preferences. how do i cause it to reload that list?
[01:02] <stefg> subsume: you need a disk. you don't upgrade, you completly reinstall
[01:03] <kindofabuzz> GullyFoyle: are you calling me a tool?
[01:03] <subsume> stefg ok
[01:03] <c-ron> maynards-girl, tool fan?
[01:03] <maynards-girl> c-rom, yep
[01:03] <c-ron> rawk
[01:04] <ThreeFingerPete> it seems using control alt backspace doesnt reset my xorg
[01:04] <kindofabuzz> tool is the only "metal" band i can listen to
[01:04] <GullyFoyle> kindofabuzz: sorry, I forgot which channel I was in. No offence intended.
[01:05] <atg_> ghhhaaaa, I'm going nuts, need help
[01:05] <michealPW> aMule, to the rescue!
[01:05] <RockmanDensetsu> Hello
[01:05] <RockmanDensetsu> I have troubles with my Microphone :(
[01:05] <cost1> whats the name of this OSX- ike panel, pls?
[01:05] <RockmanDensetsu> Ubuntu 7.10
[01:05] <cost1> RockmanDensetsu: look at alsamixer
[01:05] <cost1> RockmanDensetsu: enable capture (-;
[01:06] <RockmanDensetsu> cost1 > i try with all in google forums, ubuntu-es ubuntu.org, etc..
[01:06] <michealPW> *thinks*
[01:06] <michealPW> Is struggling with Cakewalk SONAR on Ubuntu a lost cause?
[01:06] <RockmanDensetsu> cost1 > i recompile my soundcard
[01:06] <cost1> RockmanDensetsu: omg
[01:06] <subsume> stefg: do you know if there is a lightweight gusty I can get from command line?
[01:06] <michealPW> I've invest a lot of time.. Before I got further, I'd like to know if it's a big waste of time?:/
[01:06] <subsume> stefg:  I want to make a thin-client from gusty
[01:06] <RockmanDensetsu> cost 1> I try with the sigmatel patch (downgrade the drivers)
[01:06] <michealPW> subsume: Gobuntu?:P
[01:06] <RockmanDensetsu> cost1> but nothing work
[01:06] <RockmanDensetsu> jejeje
[01:07] <subsume> michealPW: wtf?
[01:07] <c-ron> michealPW, why would you want to run sonar in *nix? just use windows doe that
[01:07] <stefg> subsume: you don't want gutsy. you want hardy (8.04).
[01:07] <kaffien> how can i modify the settings on beryl / xgl?
[01:07] <c-ron> *for that
[01:07] <subsume> stefg: i'm sorry i meant Hardy!
[01:07] <cost1> RockmanDensetsu: did you look if the configuration on alsamixer is right?
[01:07] <michealPW> c-ron: I don't like Windows, and me and Microsoft don't get along anymore.
[01:07] <subsume> stefg: is there a lightweight install of hardy?
[01:07] <atg_> ok man, this is it, I'm reinstalling windows :(
[01:07] <stefg> subsume: what do mean by lightweight?
[01:07] <RockmanDensetsu> cost1> yeas, alsa mixer its right, i try with all configurations
[01:07] <jrgp> how well does compiz work with dual monitors under hardy? I'm using a gfc 6600 with the restricted drivers.
[01:07] <stefg> subsume: what machine/hardware and what purpose?
[01:07] <cost1> RockmanDensetsu: perhaps a hardware error?
[01:08] <michealPW> c-ron: I'd like to deploy Ubuntu on my close friends home audio studio. I've gotten the hardware setup (2 audio cards) and such,
[01:08] <subsume> stefg: apt-get install edubuntu-addon-light gives you a smaller version of edubuntu
[01:08] <michealPW> But SONAR's a non-starter so far, aheuheuH!~
[01:08] <skavez> would connecting an ubuntu server box via ethernet to my mac give ubuntu internet access? i'm considering installing ubuntu server on an extra pc
[01:08] <cost1> RockmanDensetsu: does it work on a other os?
[01:08] <RockmanDensetsu> cost1>in the audio settings the error its with the pipeline
[01:08] <subsume> stefg: i've got some pretty powerful client machines.
[01:08] <subsume> stefg: purpose: an elementary school lab
[01:08] <RockmanDensetsu> cost1>preconfigured MS Windows Vista work on
[01:08] <stefg> subsume: so you are setting up a terminal server?
[01:09] <subsume> stefg: uhm... not sure what you mean by that. but there is a server here.
[01:09] <cost1> RockmanDensetsu:  sorry, i do not know what to do )-;
[01:09] <michealPW> subsume: Seriously, have you looked at Gobuntu for that? It's intended for people who want to build Ubuntu-based distributions, IIRC.
[01:09] <stefg> subsume: so how much ram has the typical machine?
[01:09] <RockmanDensetsu> cost1> thanks for you attencions (:
[01:09] <cost1> RockmanDensetsu: np
[01:09] <cost1> RockmanDensetsu: buena noche
[01:09] <subsume> stefg: how can I check? =)
[01:10] <stefg> subsume: free -m
[01:10] <c-ron> michealPW, have you check winehq to see if anyone has been able to run it?
[01:10] <michealPW> cost1: So, basically SONAR's a no go? Is there anything of comparable quality?
[01:10] <subsume> stefg: says total 376
[01:10] <michealPW> c-ron: Nothing on WineHQ was pleasing. The closest anyone has gotten and documented was getting it to *play* audio, aheuheuH!~
[01:10] <cost1> michealPW: what?
[01:10] <moogmusic> when i suspend ubuntu 7.10 at my laptop, i dont have a network connection anymore after resuming from suspend. wny help ?
[01:10] <izzy_> echo server1.example.com > /etc/hostname
[01:11] <michealPW> cost1: Cakewalk SONAR, for professional audio recording.
[01:11] <izzy_> anyone know how to set the hostname on ubuntu 7.10 server edition ?
[01:11] <RockmanDensetsu>  Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
[01:11] <izzy_> its echo something not sure what the rest of it is
[01:11] <icesword> !hostname
[01:11] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[01:12] <cost1> michealPW: hmm i do not know something about audio recordig... (-;
[01:12] <ketzerei> I can't install Ubuntu. Alternate cd or otherwise. Kubuntu installs just fine, I'm running it now. Ubuntu just seems to hate me, 64 bit or otherwise.
[01:12] <Stroganoff> flick: have you googled your mainboard chipset or ethernet chipset with ubuntu suspend?
[01:12] <RockmanDensetsu> Laptop Gateway 6947
[01:12] <ketzerei> I get an "Errno 5 Check cd for defects, clean disk drive, or move to a cooler enviroment."
[01:12] <stefg> subsume: ok, that should be enough for a standard desktop install... http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso . but this isn NOT edubuntu
[01:12] <ketzerei>  I've burned like 4 different cds already, and none work.
[01:12] <Stroganoff> or just linux suspend, flick
[01:12] <subsume> stefg: i am already downloading that
[01:13] <cost1> does anyone know a panel which looks like the mac OSX one?
[01:13] <icesword> awn
[01:13] <Odd-rationale> !awn | cost1
[01:13] <ketzerei> Cost1: AWN
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <PiPMeister> search for mac4lin
[01:13] <cost1> ok, yhx
[01:13] <ketzerei> Avant window manager
[01:13] <stefg> subsume: edubuntu has its own channel #edubuntu. you should probably ask there for the lastes edubuntu news
[01:13] <subsume> stefg: I don't need to use edubuntu
[01:13] <subsume> stefg: its a dead project in my mind
[01:14] <icesword> ...
[01:14] <subsume> stefg: this lab just happens to have lots of edubuntu
[01:14] <ketzerei> I can't install Ubuntu. Alternate cd or otherwise. Kubuntu installs just fine, I'm running it now. Ubuntu just seems to hate me, 64 bit or otherwise.
[01:14] <c-ron> michealPW, read this: http://forums.presonus.com/showthread.php?t=4520
[01:14] <subsume> stefg: you really think gutsy was a dud, eh?
[01:15] <tifine_> what is the player to play .mkv movie, i am trying to play kaffine but some times movie stops or sometime you can hear the sound and picture still.
[01:15] <kindofabuzz> hmm
[01:15] <Stroganoff> tifine_: try mplayer or vlc
[01:15] <subsume> michealPW: gobuntu uses only open source drivers, etc?
[01:15] <tifine_> Stroganoff, try both same happening
[01:16] <stefg> subsume: the idea behind edubuntu is that you have only one powerful machine in the lab, and use old and obsolete computers just as terminals. all the actual work is done on the powerful machine.
[01:16] <tifine_> ryrys, they why somtimes movie stops and you can hear the sound they speaking
[01:16] <cost1> tifine_: perhaps install some missing codecs?
[01:16] <nikrud> subsume it still doesn't, in that sense
[01:16] <subsume> stefg: bah, edubuntu doesn't even do that well. in order to get a good setup you have to customize it
[01:16] <tifine_> cost1, okie what codecs i needed to install for mkv movie
[01:16] <subsume> nikrud: what didn't?
[01:17] <c-ron> mp3 != free
[01:17] <subsume> nikrud oh
[01:17] <subsume> nikrud yeah, that's a little too hardcore OS for me =)
[01:17] <zcat[1]> !upgrade
[01:17] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:17] <cost1>  tifine_: moment, i will check the wiki
[01:17] <michealPW> Thanks for the read, c-ron
[01:17] <ryrys> tifine_, hmmm alsa problems maybe....
[01:17] <michealPW> brb
[01:17] <Stroganoff> tifine_: try without binary video drivers
[01:17] <mike__> how can i install this VMware-workstation-6.0.0-45731.i386.tar.gz PLZ ...
[01:17] <nikrud> subsume I'm talking about ubuntu. Still doesn't come with mp3 support. You have to add it
[01:17] <tifine_> Stroganoff, without binary drivers ??
[01:17] <subsume> nikrud: yeah, i got that.
[01:18] <Stroganoff> tifine_: i cant find any confirmation at google related to your specific problem. just many people with movie playing without sound
[01:18] <subsume> nikrud: that's easy enough to add. a monitor driver can be hell =)
[01:18] <mike__> how can i format my Slave IDE hdd thata NTFS into a linux fileSys ?
[01:18] <tifine_> Stroganoff, i can hear the sound but why movie sometimes go to still and then play then still
[01:18] <Stroganoff> tifine_: i mean the closed source drivers coming directly from ati/nvidia/matrox/s3
[01:19] <tifine_> tifine_, but i dont exactly know which drivers i need for it
[01:19] <Stroganoff> tifine_: is it just one .mkv file or any?
[01:19] <kindofabuzz> is no one talking or is something messed up on my end?
[01:19] <izzy_> what does the echo command do ?
[01:20] <kindofabuzz> send me a msg please
[01:20] <tifine_> Stroganoff, just only one file
[01:20] <tifine_> Stroganoff, just only one file
[01:20] <Stroganoff> tifine_: it may be related to the codec. "mkv" ist just a container format
[01:20] <tbwnoob> hello room
[01:20] <tbwnoob> my graphics are flickering using ati?
[01:20] <Stroganoff> tifine_: you could try to convert that file to xvid.avi or something
[01:20] <incugus> Hello everyone, im a new ubuntu user, and im having some dificulties, i was wondering  if anyone has some spare time to help me out.
[01:21] <cost1>  tifine_: sory, i did not found anything
[01:21] <subsume> stefg: I'm just curious but why doesn't this darn computer start without being in recovery mode?
[01:21] <kindofabuzz> hello?
[01:21] <tifine_> Stroganoff, any idea how should i convert .mkv file to avi file
[01:21] <subsume> stefg: even though I can go into recovery mode and then start GDM just fine.
[01:21] <levie> me confundi del canal :P
[01:21] <unkhot> Hello, I have a apache chrooted, but some tools like squirrelmail needs 'locales' to select another language, wich files do I need on chroot? Or what do I need ? thank you
[01:21] <kindofabuzz> hmm
[01:21] <tbwnoob> hello?
[01:21] <levie> todos hablan en inglés?
[01:21] <Stroganoff> tifine_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567016
[01:22] <cost1> levie: si
[01:22] <Stroganoff> tifine_: or use the command line interface of ffmpeg or mencoder (see google etc.)
[01:22] <tritium> !es | levie
[01:22] <ubotu> levie: En el canal donde esta solo se premite hablar ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:22] <tbwnoob> hello , i have ati driver installed and when they are being used in the 3d mode they flicker, do i need new drivers or are my settings worng?
[01:22] <izzy_> Setting The Hostname
[01:22] <izzy_> echo server1.example.com > /etc/hostname
[01:22] <tbwnoob> #counter-strike
[01:22] <levie> si ok gracias
[01:22] <izzy_> Setting The Hostname
[01:22] <izzy_> echo server1.example.com > /etc/hostname
[01:22] <izzy_> (/bin/hostname -F /etc/hostname)
[01:22] <Stroganoff> tbwnoob: are you on the latest updates including kernel?
[01:23] <izzy_> does that look right ?
[01:23] <izzy_> ignore the () its so it would show up
[01:23] <Stroganoff> tbwnoob: have you googled your ati card + flicker + compiz or aiglx
 i dont know can you tell me how to check please?
 yes i have i have googled away
 all of those
[01:23] <Stroganoff> tbwnoob: open terminal (alt+f2 -> xterm), type: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:24] <levie> la mayoria de ustedes son de Usa??
[01:24] <alindeman> Where do I set my users' preferred locale (env variable LANG)?
[01:24] <nathan42100> that was....weird.
[01:24] <tbwnoob> 0 new
[01:24] <Stroganoff> tbwnoob: are you using gutsy/ubuntu7.10?
 yes i am
[01:24] <Stroganoff> k do the thing
[01:24] <nathan42100> RhythmBox just played the right song but displayed the title and length and stuff wrong
 it said zero new
[01:25] <levie> bye a todos :)
[01:25] <kindofabuzz> ok it was this script messing it up
[01:25] <subsume> How can I apt-get hardy??
[01:25] <Stroganoff> ok tbwnoob: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:25] <tbwnoob> ok
[01:25] <tbwnoob> im there
[01:25] <Stroganoff> tbwnoob: ctrl+W... search for "defaultdepth" and set it to 16
[01:25] <cyntek_> I am now recieving a problem with gutsy gibbon 7.10, the playback of audio cd's are playing way too fast. Is there a solution to fix this bug.
[01:25] <Stroganoff> instead of 24
[01:25] <stefg> subsume: no CD burner inreach ?
[01:26] <subsume> stefg: I have a burner. I just want to use it as a thin-client
[01:26] <subsume> stefg: (as well as burning the iso i am downloading)
[01:26] <nathan42100> welllll.....anyways, I can't write linux scripts for my life...can someone help me make a login script that a) mounts both hard drives and b) asks whether or not the user wants to boot into xubuntu or ubuntu (xfce vs GNOME)
[01:26] <tbwnoob> <Stroganoff ok
[01:26] <tbwnoob> <Stroganoff i set it to 16 from 24
[01:26] <Stroganoff> nathan42100: use gdm session vor xfce vs. gnome
[01:26] <stefg> subsume: i see... you can do a minimal install then... but that's a different CD :-)
[01:26] <tbwnoob> <Stroganoff : shouls i save?
[01:27] <subsume> stefg: what is the source package name for the min install?
[01:27] <Stroganoff> for choosing desktops i mean
[01:27] <Stroganoff> tbwnoob: yes. ctrl+alt+bckspacke
[01:27] <stefg> subsume: it's no package.. it's an .iso
[01:27] <Stroganoff> after safing
[01:27] <subsume> stefg: its a package too, i bet
[01:27] <LumberCartel> I've been setting up some old machines for people with Ubuntu Linux on them (they were previously Windows boxes from a school that upgraded their hardware, but the licenses weren't transferrable), and the few people who received them are very happy with them.
[01:27] <tbwnoob> <Stroganoff restart x server?
[01:27] <cyntek_> I am now recieving a problem with gutsy gibbon 7.10, the playback of audio cd's are playing way too fast. Is there a solution to fix this bug.
[01:27] <Stroganoff> yep
[01:27] <Schmeiz> how do i get ATI drivers working on ubuntu
[01:27] <stefg> subsume: but you have a harddrive inside the client, don't you?
[01:27] <tbwnoob> ok
[01:28] <subsume> stefg: well..yeah
[01:28] <gleblanc_> I'm not sure if anybody here would know, but I'm having trouble with soundconverter not recognizing my mp3 libraries on ubuntu
[01:28] <hischild> Schmeiz, enable the restricted drivers under system->adminstration->restricted drivers
[01:28] <nathan42100> stroganoff: how do I do that? I want it to actually pop up a box and not have to go into options each time to change it
[01:28] <gleblanc_> Any thoughts on how to debug?
[01:28] <LumberCartel> I've been using g4u to replicate Ubuntu installs, and all is working well, but some of these machines have larger drives and I'd like to know how to set up a partition using the extra disk space.
[01:28] <eduardo> Hey kids - another question... When upgrading my Ubunty, apt asked me if i wanted to use a new config or keep an existing now... so I said use new. I THINk that was in regards to "initramfs"... anyway my system doesn't boot now due to initramfs issues. is there any recourse?
[01:28] <stefg> !minimal | subsume
[01:28] <ubotu> subsume: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:28] <subsume> stefg: but I have a NFS loading /home drive
[01:28] <LumberCartel> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[01:28] <sjovan> got a teamspeak isntall issue. I can't se the problem. http://pastebin.com/d222b358a <--- can you guys?
[01:29] <cyntek_> I am now recieving a problem with gutsy gibbon 7.10, the playback of audio cd's are playing way too fast. Is there a solution to fix this bug.
[01:29] <Stroganoff> nathan42100: there may be a hotkey for switching sessions. anyway you could create a blank session with your choosing script and your mount stuff
[01:29] <LumberCartel> I've found a few other poor families without computers -- the kids will be using Ubuntu with OpenOffice.org for their homework.  I've been giving these machines away for free.
[01:29] <stefg> subsume: so are you going to vnc/rdp/xdmcp into the server, or do you run apps locally?
[01:29] <c-ron> LumberCartel, nice. :)
[01:29] <cyntek_> good cause!
[01:29] <nathan42100> Stroganoff...i have no clue how to do this stuff, which is why I am ehre
[01:29] <nathan42100> here*
[01:29] <Stroganoff> nathan42100: you have to look into the necessary command yourself. the sessions are at /usr/share/xsession or somewhere (im not on linux right now)
[01:29] <subsume> stefg: run apps locally
[01:29] <LumberCartel> c-ron:  Ubuntu has been great for this.
[01:29] <kindofabuzz> LumberCartel: can i have one? i'm poor
[01:29] <cyntek_> good cause!
[01:30] <cyntek_> I am now recieving a problem with gutsy gibbon 7.10, the playback of audio cd's are playing way too fast. Is there a solution to fix this bug.
[01:30] <stefg> subsume: so just use the standard install, except tjat you mount /home via nfs
[01:30] <LumberCartel> c-ron:  I've already promised these machines to other -- they're 1 GHz AMD Durons so they're quite slow.  When I get more I'll ask around here though if I can't find good homes for them.
[01:30] <nathan42100> Thanks stroganoff
[01:30] <intarwebz> what's the difference between a windowing system and a window manager?
[01:30] <LumberCartel> Sorry c-ron, that was meant for kindofabuzz.
[01:30] <RockmanDensetsu> hello
[01:30] <c-ron> I pulled an old p2 out of a dumpster and put xubuntu on for my broke ass roommate
[01:30] <RockmanDensetsu> ia have a problem
[01:30] <cyntek_> I am now recieving a problem with gutsy gibbon 7.10, the playback of audio cd's are playing way too fast. Is there a solution to fix this bug.
[01:30] <RockmanDensetsu> with my SO
[01:30] <RockmanDensetsu> ubuntu 7.10
[01:30] <stefg> subsume: so that's not exactly a thin client, but a fat clinet
[01:31] <RockmanDensetsu> the trouble its with my micropone
[01:31] <RockmanDensetsu> :(
[01:31] <subsume> stefg:  yes a fat client a la https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPFatClients
[01:31] <Stroganoff> nathan42100: you will have to find a little program that lets you create custom graphical message boxes
[01:31] <LumberCartel> I'm fairly new to Linux, and am wondering:  How can I get a list of partitions, and how can I create a new one?  I know how to mount partitions from separately mounted drives already.
[01:31] <michealPW> Excellent read, c-ron.
[01:31] <navetz> hey guys, what do I download to be able to watch wma streamed videos?
[01:31] <nathan42100> how do I edit the files....
[01:31] <nathan42100> stroganoff: how do I edit the files
[01:31] <michealPW> Cleared a couple of things up, helped a lot as well.
[01:31] <navetz> or quicktime videos
[01:31] <michealPW> Ubuntu Studio it is!
[01:31] <michealPW> 8giggles8
[01:32] <c-ron> michealPW, do you make music?
[01:32] <Stroganoff> nathan42100, i mean for creating your custom DUAL CHOOSE box. then you have to start gnome-session or xfce-session (or is it xubuntu-session) with that dialogue box
[01:32] <Kubuntu-user> Hi all
[01:32] <c-ron> howdy Kubuntu-user
[01:32] <nathan42100> stroganoff: I still need to know how to edit them...they won't open in gedit even with sudo
[01:33] <Stroganoff> !bash | nathan42100
[01:33] <ubotu> nathan42100: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[01:33] <stefg> subsume: but these fat clients don't have a local harddrive. if you have harddisks inside your clients i would just use them as plain network clients, all apps installed locally and save lots of network traffic
[01:33] <navetz> !quicktime
[01:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:33] <Stroganoff> nathan42100: use "sudo nano file" for a starter
[01:33] <LumberCartel> Google hasn't been very helpful for partition management solutions in Ubuntu -- all I keep finding is stuff about Windows partitions, which is what I'm trying to get the world to get away from.
[01:33] <nathan42100> I have to edit them in nano is what you are saying stroganoff?
[01:33] <tbwnoob_> that crashed me
[01:33] <Stroganoff> yep
[01:33] <Stroganoff> and create new ones
[01:34] <Stroganoff> and understand what your doing (the hard part for a noob)
[01:34] <tbwnoob_> <Stroganoff that crashed my xserver
[01:34] <Stroganoff> so read some wesbites
[01:34] <Dr_willis> LumberCartel,  'sudo fdisk -l' for a list, to make/move/alter them - i normally use gparted.
[01:34] <Stroganoff> tbwnoob_ sure you did nothing wrong except change the defaultdepth?
[01:34] <LumberCartel> Ah, fdisk.  Thanks Dr_willis.
[01:34] <Stroganoff> let me have you ati card then
[01:34] <vlt> Hello. I fetched the source of a package (`apt-get source pkgname`), extracted it (`tar -xzf pkgname-version.tar.gz`) and modified a .cpp file. What's the easiest way to get an installable .deb file?
[01:34] <tbwnoob_> yup
[01:34] <tbwnoob_> what version of ati should i install
[01:34] <Dr_willis> LumberCartel,  same name as the command under windows. :) well used to be under windows.
[01:35] <tbwnoob_> 8.3 8.4 or 8.2?
[01:35] <Stroganoff> plus tbwnoob: paste your /var/log/Xorg.log into !paste
[01:35] <tbwnoob_> okay
[01:35] <Dr_willis> LumberCartel,   gparted will show them also - of course.  but fdisk -l is a good command to get a list of all the disns on a system
[01:35] <stefg> subsume: bedtime for me... good luck with hardy
[01:35] <kindofabuzz> i think i'm gonna go install Debian on my other hard drive just to try it out
[01:35] <Dr_willis> Testing out SIDux right now on some of my machines
[01:36] <tifine_> Stroganoff, any idea how long does that gonna take to convert ?
[01:36] <LumberCartel> Dr_willis:  I see hda1, hda2, and hda5 only.  Seems others are left out of the list?
[01:36] <kindofabuzz> what is Deb's default gui?
[01:36] <tbwnoob> even now because i have vesa enabled now
[01:36] <tbwnoob> as my driver
[01:36] <tbwnoob> should i change it back to ati then to my car log?
[01:36] <Dr_willis> LumberCartel,  what others?  It should list all that are seen by the bios.
[01:36] <tbwnoob> var log?
[01:36] <Stroganoff> tifine_: shoudlnt take more than 10 minutes with average settings
[01:36] <Stroganoff> if it's just 700mb
[01:36] <Vorodie> greetings every one
[01:36] <LumberCartel> Oh.  So the numbers aren't consecutive then.
[01:37] <tifine_> Stroganoff, no its 8gb :P
[01:37] <c-ron> this may be inappropriate, but is hardy heron a rip on hairy hardon?
[01:37] <Stroganoff> k that will take some time
[01:37] <Dr_willis> LumberCartel,   thats how extended and logical and primary partitions are named. 1-4  = primaries, 5+ = logicals/extendds
[01:37] <Stroganoff> tifine_: i hope your output file is not 700mb ;)
[01:38] <kindofabuzz> c-ron: LOL never thought about that
[01:38] <Schmeiz> hmm
[01:38] <tbwnoob> hello?
[01:38] <Schmeiz> every time i plug in my ATI video card, i can't get Ubuntu to start up
[01:38] <Itaku> !lol | kindofabuzz
[01:38] <ubotu> kindofabuzz: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
 okay im going to try different drivers and see if any one is better
[01:39] <Vorodie> i have a question: the Fridge page say that 8.04 is going to be LTS, while the Kubuntu announce say that it is NOT. what is correct?
[01:39] <crackheadjunky> hello all
[01:39] <c-ron> ubotu, has no sense of humor
[01:39] <kindofabuzz> what?  so were supposed to say" hey i laughed at that"?
[01:39] <tbwnoob> ill be back if that doesnt work
[01:39] <Stroganoff> tbwnoob: theres only fglrx and ati
[01:39] <tbwnoob> yea
[01:39] <Stroganoff> k there that new one
[01:39] <warriorforgod> What would be the easiest way to migrate an ubuntu server off a VM to a physical machine.
[01:39] <Stroganoff> well gl
[01:39] <tbwnoob> there are 3 different ati versions
[01:39] <crackheadjunky> guys, i need some help with alsa, or my realtek sound.
[01:39] <Dr_willis> LumberCartel,  http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Partition.html has a lot of info. Some of it may be a little out of date.
[01:39] <c-ron> kindofabuzz, the bot wouldn't appreciate the humor
[01:39] <tbwnoob> ati/fglrx
[01:39] <navetz> can anyone play this? http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/nbatv_top10/top10_080322.asx
[01:39] <Stroganoff> tbwnoob: what ati board do you have?
[01:39] <LumberCartel> Thank you Dr_willis.  I'll read that.
[01:39] <navetz> I cant figure out what to install to paly it
[01:40] <kindofabuzz> c-ron i'd (lol) at that but the bot wouldn't like me
 ati x1300
[01:40] <crackheadjunky> ubotu, realtek
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realtek - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <Stroganoff> navetz: have you install mozilla-mplayer?
[01:40] <crackheadjunky> please help with realtek sound
[01:40] <xxx_> 哈哈！有中国人吗？
[01:40] <navetz> Stroganoff: I don't think so, is that what I need?
[01:40] <c-ron> navetz, mplayer plays it in firefox
[01:40] <alan_m> !jp | xxx_
[01:40] <ubotu> xxx_: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[01:40] <Dr_willis> LumberCartel,  under many new disrtos - the ide drives are called by the 'sd' type names. hda1 = sda1, and so forth. Due to some changes in how drives are handled. - somthing to watch out for
[01:40] <Schmeiz> can anyone help me? i've got an ATI Raedon 9250 video card. every time i plug it into a PCI slot on my motherboard and start up my computer, Ubuntu does not work. whats wrong??
[01:41] <peace-keeper> hi how can i see how much memory a process is using
[01:41] <tbwnoob> scmez
[01:41] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !cn | xxx
[01:41] <ubotu> xxx: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[01:41] <navetz> c-ron: mine trys to open with mplayer, but it wont work.
[01:41] <alan_m> one of those two will help em out heh
[01:41] <kindofabuzz> navetz: works for me
[01:41] <crackheadjunky> Schmeiz, ati has horrible linux following, you need to find the right driver for it
[01:41] <Stroganoff> navetz, i dont know exactly if asx streams work in mplayer
[01:41] <Stroganoff> but its the best one
[01:41] <yowshi> !ntfs
[01:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
 when you launc ubuntu press esc and go into the safe graphics mode then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:41] <Stroganoff> navetz | !medibuntu
[01:41] <kindofabuzz> what game is on now? is memphis on?
[01:41] <crackheadjunky> realtek!
[01:41] <crackheadjunky> lol
[01:41] <tbwnoob> then select vesa as your driver
[01:41] <Stroganoff> !medibuntu | navet
[01:41] <ubotu> navet: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:41] <Stroganoff> !medibuntu | navetz
[01:41] <ubotu> navetz: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:41] <Schmeiz> crackheadjunky: where can i find the drivers? ATI's site is no help, it gives me a .run file that i cant use
[01:42] <Stroganoff> oops ;)
[01:42] <c-ron> Stroganoff, mplayer plays it. i just checked
[01:42] <crackheadjunky> Schmeiz, use synaptic
[01:42] <Stroganoff> navetz: install mozilla-mplayer with those medibuntu repos
install envy
[01:42] <crackheadjunky> Schmeiz, type in ati in the search in synaptic
[01:42] <navetz> Stroganoff: alright, thanks.
[01:42] <Dr_willis> Schmeiz,  some people use the ati installer (which is that .run file)  - but its not reccomended.. envy is not recomended either. :) but good luck
[01:42] <LumberCartel> Dr_willis:  Thanks.  I'm familiar with some of this stuff from NetBSD.  It seems that Linux does things quite differently.
[01:42] <urthmover> I have manually compiled the nvidia drivers and everything looks good (resolution etc.) when I reboot ubuntu says that it can't detect the graphics adaptor and then boots in a low graphics configuration.  How do I get the new nvidia drivers to stick after a reboot? (/etc/modules HAS nvidia in it)
[01:42] <revned> Hello. I'm having trouble setting up Twinview. Whenever I set the settings and hit apply and save file.  The changes dont take affect after I restart the X Server
[01:42] <LumberCartel> Dr_willis, thanks again for all your help.  I'll be reading for a while then I'll return if I have any more questions.
[01:43] <Dr_willis> LumberCartel,  bsd names the drives in a different way also.. GRUB also names them in a different way also. :)
[01:43] <tbwnoob> <Stroganoff any luck on which version of driver i should use
[01:43] <LumberCartel> Yup.
[01:43] <navetz> Stroganoff: i notice in the repos that there is also kaffiene-mozilla, would that work as well?
[01:43] <warriorforgod> What would be the easiest way to migrate an ubuntu server off a VM to a physical machine.
[01:43] <Stroganoff> tbwnoob: what ati board do you have?
[01:43] <subsume> I can't connect to the internet with ubuntu... what do I need to check?
[01:43] <subsume> My wifi card is set up right
[01:43] <Schmeiz> alright since the other two aren't recommended, i'm lookin up ATI in the synaptic package manager
[01:43] <tbwnoob> <Stroganoff ati x1300
[01:43] <Stroganoff> navetz: most likely not
[01:43] <tbwnoob> <Stroganoff ati amd raedeon x1300
[01:43] <kindofabuzz> did memphis win today?
[01:43] <crackheadjunky> subsume, what does ifconfig say?
[01:43] <navetz> Stroganoff: alright, thanks
[01:44] <Stroganoff> navetz: you need those evil codecs from medibuntu
[01:44] <alan_m> !ot | kindofabuzz
[01:44] <ubotu> kindofabuzz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:44] <yowshi> hmmm that howto is only for people who dont have the partitions in thier fstab
[01:44] <kindofabuzz> jeeez
[01:44] <subsume> crackheadjunky: ifconfig says not much. my wlan0 is there.
[01:44] <subsume> crackheadjunky: how do I set my gateway, etc?
[01:44] <yowshi> anyone know how to mount an ntfs partition or hdd that is already listed?
[01:44] <navetz> Stroganoff: i think i have them
[01:44] <tbwnoob> <Stroganoff any luck
[01:44] <c-ron> urthmover, can you modprobe nvidia ?
[01:44] <crackheadjunky> subsume, do u use dhcp or what?
[01:44] <Stroganoff> tbwnoob: what ati gpu do you posess?
[01:44] <yowshi> gerf fstab != to fdisk
[01:45] <tbwnoob> gpu?
[01:45] <Stroganoff> navetz: whats that?
[01:45] <izzy_> Setting The Hostname
[01:45] <izzy_> echo server1.example.com > /etc/hostname
[01:45] <izzy_> (/bin/hostname -F /etc/hostname)
[01:45] <Schmeiz> er
[01:45] <HinHin> subsume, goto system > network
[01:45] <navetz> Stroganoff: I downloaded xine-plugin and it works
[01:45] <Schmeiz> another quick question
[01:45] <Stroganoff> tbwnoob: your graphics card
[01:45] <tbwnoob> <Stroganoff whats a gou and how do i find out
[01:45] <navetz> Stroganoff: thank you
[01:45] <izzy_> anyone know if that code is right ?
[01:45] <izzy_> ^^^^
[01:45] <HinHin> and click properties
[01:45] <Schmeiz> how do i set up a network printer?
[01:45] <subsume> I am comfy with commandline but ok
[01:45] <BysmuthMage> if I burn the ubuntu live cd image to a DVD disc will it still work or is there something specific to a CD on there
[01:45] <Stroganoff> navetz, ur welcome ;)
[01:45] <crackheadjunky> Schmeiz, im no good there
[01:45] <Schmeiz> i wanna print to a printer on windows xp
[01:45] <tbwnoob> <Stroganoff i use an ati x1300 on ubuntu 7.1
[01:45] <kindofabuzz> woot! go tigers!
[01:45] <alan_m> !samba | schmiez
[01:45] <ubotu> schmiez: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[01:45] <subsume> crackheadjunky: I don't have a bcast or ip or anything. what file do those live in?
[01:46] <alan_m> have you tried this?
[01:46] <subsume> HinHin: ok, there i am
[01:46] <crackheadjunky> subsume, you should not need that, that is why i am asking
[01:46] <c-ron> kindofabuzz, what did the tigers do?
[01:46] <kindofabuzz> won
[01:46] <kindofabuzz> =-)
[01:46] <urthmover> I have manually compiled the nvidia drivers and everything looks good (resolution etc.) when I reboot ubuntu says that it can't detect the graphics adaptor and then boots in a low graphics configuration.  How do I get the new nvidia drivers to stick after a reboot? (/etc/modules HAS nvidia in it)
[01:46] <crackheadjunky> subsume, private room?
[01:46] <urthmover> I have manually compiled the nvidia drivers and everything looks good (resolution etc.) when I reboot ubuntu says that it can't detect the graphics adaptor and then boots in a low graphics configuration.  How do I get the new nvidia drivers to stick after a reboot? (/etc/modules HAS nvidia in it)
[01:47] <urthmover> I have manually compiled the nvidia drivers and everything looks good (resolution etc.) when I reboot ubuntu says that it can't detect the graphics adaptor and then boots in a low graphics configuration.  How do I get the new nvidia drivers to stick after a reboot? (/etc/modules HAS nvidia in it)
[01:47] <urthmover> I have manually compiled the nvidia drivers and everything looks good (resolution etc.) when I reboot ubuntu says that it can't detect the graphics adaptor and then boots in a low graphics configuration.  How do I get the new nvidia drivers to stick after a reboot? (/etc/modules HAS nvidia in it)
[01:47] <urthmover> I have manually compiled the nvidia drivers and everything looks good (resolution etc.) when I reboot ubuntu says that it can't detect the graphics adaptor and then boots in a low graphics configuration.  How do I get the new nvidia drivers to stick after a reboot? (/etc/modules HAS nvidia in it)
[01:47] <alan_m> Guys, this is a support room, keep the random chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic as ubotu has informed, thanks :)
[01:47] <kindofabuzz> urthmover: try Envy
[01:47] <Dr_willis> urthmover,  you are probelry on ignore by 90% of the channel now.
[01:47] <c-ron> urthmover,
[01:47] <tbwnoob> <Stroganoff okay ive got version 8.4 ubnstalled now
[01:47] <urthmover> oops
[01:47] <urthmover> sheesh  so sorry guys
[01:47] <subsume> crackheadjunky: just msg me?
[01:47] <urthmover> :-S
[01:47] <tbwnoob> <Stroganoff i need to restart then i will get you me my var .log
[01:47] <tbwnoob> brb
[01:47] <Dr_willis> urthmover,  :) is there some reason you dident use the restricted-manager tools and used the nvidis installer?
[01:48] <urthmover> I was scrolled down all the way
[01:48] <digitalslave> anyone know why msn support would suddenly stop working with pidgin and how i can fix it?
[01:48] <crackheadjunky> subsume, i thought you could get another room here, guess not...
[01:48] <urthmover> that is what I did Dr Willis
[01:48] <subsume> crackheadjunky: =)
[01:48] <urthmover> using the restriced tools
[01:48] <urthmover> I do both
[01:48] <peter-> I did update my ubuntu to hardy beta. Its good but when i launch compiz, it wont show borders. I have installed emerald. I have ati's graphic card.
[01:48] <crackheadjunky> subsume, ifconfig sees it?
[01:48] <peter-> Hi!
[01:48] <peter-> I did update my ubuntu to hardy beta. Its good but when i launch compiz, it wont show borders. I have installed emerald. I have ati's graphic card.
[01:48] <c-ron> urthmover, tried envy?
[01:48] <crackheadjunky> subsume, do you see your network in the list?
[01:48] <peter-> Sorry spam :S
[01:48] <subsume> crackheadjunky: the device? yeah? but the device ahs no IP or anything
[01:48] <subsume> crackheadjunky: yeah, its there.
[01:48] <urthmover> and it works...but when I reboot nothing sticks...and yes I havve Envy installed
[01:48] <Integration> hey guys i'm using drupal6 when I try to do changes to the navigation like disable or drag and move an item and then save it won't make the change. Any ideas?
[01:49] <subsume> crackheadjunky: i just can't connecto internet
[01:49] <Dr_willis> urthmover,   thats what you said. :) or  thats now how i read it..   -   'I have manually compiled the nvidia' is not using restricted-manager
[01:49] <poseidon> For somereason I can't get a wireless connection anymore.  When I click on the network manager the wireless netowkrs don't show up anymore.  and when I click on manual configuration wireless networks still doesn't show up as an option.  However if I go to the network editor I can see the last reuter I was on, and it's info
[01:49] <BysmuthMage> if i'm out of CDs can I just burn the ubuntu live cd image to a DVD and use that?  (the target machine does have a DVD drive)
[01:49] <poseidon> In hardy Heron.  I'm in xp right now
[01:49] <crackheadjunky> subsume, ok, have you configured wep or anything?
[01:49] <digitalslave> complains of ssl support and im assuming its tied to the firefox install but the libs seem to be there
[01:49] <subsume> crackheadjunky: lots of other computers are using web just fine (including me now)
[01:49] <urthmover> well I meant that the nvidia precompile kernel program from a CLI was done
[01:49] <Dr_willis> urthmover,  check your kernel versions,  also check your xorg.conf to see if its some how getting changed. I guess.  Its possible by trying envy, or other tools. you may have confused some things.
[01:49] <subsume> crackheadjunky: fresh install of ubuntu didn't get the network right
[01:49] <crackheadjunky> subsume, do you have the network encrypted?
[01:50] <subsume> crackheadjunky: no
[01:50] <urthmover> possibly I'll look there  thanks
[01:50] <crackheadjunky> subsume, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:50] <tcpdumpgod> Hey, can anyone get the Fasttrack plugin for GiFT to connect?
[01:50] <subsume> crackheadjunky: setting dns addy worked =)
[01:50] <subsume> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:50] <crackheadjunky> subsume, got it?
[01:51] <subsume> crackheadjunky: yeah
[01:51] <crackheadjunky> subsume, sweet
[01:51] <Stroganoff> peter-: you dont upgrade with ATI and compiz to beta.
[01:51] <digitalslave> kopete msn works fine just pidgin is messed up
[01:51] <Stroganoff> peter-: open a terminal (alt+f2 -> xterm) and type compiz --replace
[01:52] <peter-> Stroganoff, How i can upgrade to beta?
[01:52] <Stroganoff> peter-: see if there are errors
[01:52] <BysmuthMage> oh 8.04 for ati cards just do "SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz"
[01:52] <kindofabuzz> kopete rocks
[01:52] <Stroganoff> peter-: you HAVE upgraded to beta (HARDY is beta)
[01:52] <BysmuthMage> in terminal
[01:52] <digitalslave> firefox is installed in /usr/lib/firefox and the firefox beta has been placed in /usr/bin/firefox3
[01:52] <crackheadjunky> anyone using firefox 3?
[01:52] <peter-> Stroganoff, I mean compiz and emerald
[01:53] <c-ron> kubuntu hardy has kde 3.5, but remix has 4?
[01:53] <digitalslave> err /usr/lib/firefox3 that is
[01:53] <Stroganoff> peter-: noobs shouldnt go beta. post you logfiles with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org into #ubuntu+1 or just give up on compiz for now ;)
[01:53] <digitalslave> firefox3 is great but seems its borked my ssl support in pidgin?
[01:53] <Stroganoff> i see, peter-
[01:54] <kindofabuzz> what does firefox have to do with pidgen?
[01:54] <crackheadjunky> digitalslave, thats weird
[01:54] <crackheadjunky> digitalslave, i dont believe that is the problem with pidgin...
[01:54] <Stroganoff> digitalslave: install firefox-2
[01:54] <digitalslave> ive read the ssl libs are contained in the firefox folder?
[01:54] <crackheadjunky> digitalslave, not for pidgin, i dont think
[01:54] <digitalslave> ive removed and reinstalled both firefox and pidgin from repos and its still borked
[01:55] <kindofabuzz> digital: try the firefox forums, forums.mozillazine.org
[01:55] <Stroganoff> digitalslave: or have you installed firefox3 manually over your old firefox?
[01:55] <Stroganoff> are you on gutsy?
[01:55] <mannex> Every time I try to update or install a package it additionally tries to install "sun-java6-doc (6-03-0ubuntu2)". I think the reason for this is because I tried to install the sun-java6-doc in the past and it failed, now it tries to perform this operation every time, and it always fails. How can I remove this package from the list so it does not try to update at all?
[01:55] <digitalslave> no firefox3 is kept seperate in /usr/lib/firefox3 - yes gutsy
[01:55] <tifine_> Stroganoff, when its gonna do the conversion does it gonna make the 8gb .avi file or 700mb file ?
[01:55] <bluecake> how to config ubuntu, so i can use wireless card for internet, and config eth0 to be <IP_ADDRESS> and use both interfaces the same time? when i plug in wired eth0, wirelss turns off automatically
[01:56] <Stroganoff> digitalslave: still, you should install fx3 with the swiftfox repos for now
[01:57] <whyameye_> is there a way in the Gnome environment to prevent applications from stealing focus?
[01:57] <digitalslave> all i know is shortly after running firefox3 msn disconnected and hasnt been able to utilize ssl since
[01:57] <Stroganoff> tifine_ that depends on your settings in that conversion manager and of the bitrate of the mkv. you should use a bitrate between 900 and 1100 kbit/s for your output file
[01:57] <Stroganoff> if its not HD
[01:57] <kindofabuzz> digitalslave: does this help any? http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/FAQssl
[01:58] <digitalslave> i read that it just says to build it yourself
[01:58] <Stroganoff> digitalslave: sudo apt-get purge firefox
[01:58] <tifine_> Stroganoff, I just installed the mencoder and use the simple command i.e. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MEncoder
[01:58] <digitalslave> but ssl should be included in the gutsy repo no?
[01:58] <Stroganoff> and remove ~/.mozilla
[01:58] <xp_prg_> can anyone help me with port forwarding?
[01:58] <Stroganoff> thats right digitalslave, i have no real clue what the source of the problem might be
[01:58] <warriorforgod> What would be the easiest way to migrate an ubuntu server off a VM to a physical machine.
[01:58] <tifine_> xp_prg_, on router, which one do you have ?
[01:58] <kindofabuzz> Libpurple needs to be compiled with SSL support in order to work with MSN, Novell GroupWise, and some Jabber/XMPP servers which support or require it, such as Google Talk. You will need either GNUTLS and all its dependencies or Mozilla NSS and NSPR.
[01:58] <digitalslave> doing the purge - didnt do that before just removed
[01:59] <Stroganoff> xp_prg_: read the manual of your router
[01:59] <peter-> Stroganoff, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60818/
[01:59] <xp_prg_> I am trying to do an ssh tunnel
[01:59] <xp_prg_> can anyone assist me?
[01:59] <AnthraxDream> Can anyone tell me why my NTFS drive is no longer showing up on ubuntu but it shows up on vista?
[01:59] <tifine_> xp_prg_, here it is http://portforward.com/
[01:59] <Schmeiz> ok
[01:59] <Schmeiz> uhm
[02:00] <Schmeiz> how long does it normally take samba to send a document to the printer?
[02:00] <Schmeiz> cuz i've got almost a 1 minute delay from when i hit the print button, to when it actually prints
[02:00] <pretender> Can anyone help with making DVD Case Cover in ubuntu with GLabels
[02:00] <h0ax> I am a total n00b at linux and am trying to get my wireless working I have a linksys wpc11 ver 4 card can someone help me please
[02:00] <Stroganoff> peter-: use gconf and remove that path that is indicated in the gconf line of that error log
[02:01] <peter-> Can you copy it to me, so i know what of them?
[02:01] <kindofabuzz> !wireless
[02:01] <peter-> Stroganoff, Can you copy it to me, so i know what of them?
[02:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:01] <digitalslave> purge and removing .mozilla did nothing same error
[02:01] <h0ax> !wireless
[02:01] <digitalslave> if tried LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to the lib and that didnt work either just as a test
[02:02] <kindofabuzz> digitalslave: did you see that ssl link i posted? did that help any?
[02:02] <Stroganoff> peter-: /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge and
[02:02] <Stroganoff> expo_edge
[02:02] <AnthraxDream> Can anyone tell me why my NTFS drive is no longer showing up on ubuntu but it shows up on vista?
[02:02] <phoenix24> Is there any utility, that can generate call graphs from the source-code ?
[02:02] <digitalslave> no thats for compiling yourself with ssl support which i shouldnt need to do for gutsy
[02:02] <crackheadjunky> AnthraxDream, check your fstab file
[02:02] <AnthraxDream> Where can I find that?
[02:03] <crackheadjunky> gedit fstab
[02:03] <Stroganoff> digitalslave: open pidgin from command line and giev ssl errors
[02:03] <Schmeiz> is samba really supposed to take this long to communicate?
[02:03] <prince_jammys> AnthraxDream: check the output of: grep ntfs /etc/fstab
[02:03] <kindofabuzz> digitalslave: Uninstall any previous versions of Pidgin using apt, Synaptic, or similar. Then install the libnss3-dev package with Synaptic or apt-get install libnss3-dev. Now re-run ./configure, make, make install. Alternatively, use apt-get build-dep gaim (or pidgin on Gusty, although gaim will work) to get all of Pidgin's dependencies, then rebuild Pidgin.
[02:03] <Schmeiz> i sent a job to the tray over 2 minutes ago
[02:03] <prince_jammys> AnthraxDream: and you will see the line, if it's there
[02:03] <AnthraxDream> Well it was showing up before. It just stopped like 20 minutes ago
[02:03] <crackheadjunky> AnthraxDream, you could do what prince says, or you could just gedit fstab
[02:03] <kindofabuzz> taken from http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/FAQssl
[02:03] <digitalslave> kindofabuzz, it should be in the repo already
[02:03] <warriorforgod> What would be the easiest way to migrate an ubuntu server off a VM to a physical machine.
[02:04] <Stroganoff> crackheadjunky: gedit + config files sucks, even non sudo :p
[02:04] <crackheadjunky> Stroganoff, it works...
[02:04] <digitalslave> it was working and just stopped after running firefox3
[02:04] <Stroganoff> on the other hand. nvm
[02:04] <peter-> Stroganoff, Did the line end on and or are you pasting new line?
[02:04] <Stroganoff> peter- yes there was more to this line
[02:04] <Stroganoff> you log is not that long
[02:05] <Stroganoff> you are able to ctrl+f gconf
[02:05] <peter-> ok
[02:05] <crackheadjunky> AnthraxDream, you could also go to terminal and type in fdisk -l
[02:05] <digitalslave> Stroganoff, they trapped the error so it just says there is no ssl support
[02:05] <MFen> how do i change the player that runs when i insert a dvd?
[02:05] <crackheadjunky> AnthraxDream, and give us the output
[02:05] <Stroganoff> who are they?
[02:05] <michealPW> Stroganoff: Alt+F2 > gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:05] <MFen> i want to use vlc instead of totem, which always plays the director's cut trac
[02:05] <michealPW> Stroganoff: Gedit loves you!:)
[02:05] <digitalslave> pidgin dev?
[02:05] <michealPW> 8giggles8
[02:05] <michealPW> even for configuration modifications.
[02:05] <peter-> Stroganoff, Thanks. Im asking again if i have an problem :p
[02:05] <Stroganoff> michealPW, creating root owned .gedit files in ~?
[02:05] <eraemaajaervi> somebody know if there is q function in Amarok equivalent to Winamps Jump to Track?
[02:05] <eraemaajaervi> q=a
[02:06] <MFen> i've already tried right-clicking the dvd icon to see whether i could change the app the same way you would change the app for an .mp3 file or something.  no option in that properties dialog would do it, though
[02:06] <Schmeiz> can i disable the login for ubuntu at the start?
[02:06] <michealPW> Stroganoff: Yea, well, in Gedit's configuration you can disable the creation of the ~ backups, IIRC.
[02:06] <MFen> it's also not in system > preferences > preferred applications
[02:06] <michealPW> Stroganoff: Added fileIO weight anyways, right?:)
[02:06] <method1> how do i sign up for the weekly news letter ?
[02:06] <subsume> lets say I have a little script which mounts my nfs /home drives. where can I put this to instantiate it?
[02:06] <subsume> lts.conf?
[02:06] <Stroganoff> michealPW well you can? thats nice. are you giving me noob commands (alt+f2) plus special knowledge?
[02:06] <Stroganoff> thanx
[02:07] <michealPW> Stroganoff: Of course! Kate > Gedit, too.
[02:07] <crackheadjunky> subsume, sorry, no good there...
[02:07] <subsume> crackheadjunky: =)
[02:07] <Stroganoff> whatever
[02:07] <Stroganoff> emacs
[02:07] <GEIS> Hi, im going to install ubuntu for my server, however how do i have a gui access instead of sshing into the server since i will be installing ubuntu-desktop as well?
[02:07] <michealPW> Stroganoff: I'm newbie, but I have a feeling Gedit and Kate build from the same OSS project, heehee:)
[02:07] <crackheadjunky> GEIS, just boot the disk, it is a live cd, then install it with the install icon
[02:07] <peter-> Stroganoff, So do i remove that line what you said?
[02:07] <peter-> initiate_edge
[02:08] <Stroganoff> with the gconf editor tool, yes
[02:08] <Stroganoff> and the other line, too
[02:08] <peter-> yes
[02:08] <peter-> hope it works
[02:08] <Stroganoff> i wouldnt think so, peter-
[02:08] <peter-> Stroganoff, Why?
[02:09] <Stroganoff> peter- feeling ;)
[02:09] <peter-> Stroganoff, And what other line?
[02:09] <peter-> Stroganoff, Ok.
[02:09] <sourcemaker> how bad is the performance when I use an encrypted file system? It's is maybe better to create a encrypted patition for the user home?
[02:09] <peter-> i remove that initiate_edge key
[02:09] <Stroganoff> peter-: you are on fglrx, right?
[02:09] <peter-> then?
[02:09] <peter-> YYepe.
[02:09] <Stroganoff> then retry?
[02:09] <peter-> k
[02:10] <GEIS> Hi, im going to install ubuntu for my server, however how do i have a gui access instead of sshing into the server since i will be installing ubuntu-desktop as well? (what i mean is how to i connect it with a gui access instead of sshing)
[02:10] <Stroganoff> GEIS bad idea to install the desktop
[02:11] <Stroganoff> if you dont want to surf and watch movies on the server
[02:11] <Stroganoff> there are web interface projects for servers
[02:11] <izzy_> not much has changed with ubuntu server since 5.1 has it ?
[02:11] <Stroganoff> for basic/ultimate remote access you have to install the "ssh" package, you can access it from windows with "putty"
[02:12] <Stroganoff> GIES
[02:12] <Stroganoff> GEIS
[02:12] <GEIS> ?
[02:12] <jbinder> Yes it has..
[02:12] <peter-> Stroganoff, Was there that other line?
[02:12] <Stroganoff> GEIS, read my messages.
[02:12] <Stroganoff> above
[02:12] <GEIS> i know
[02:12] <Stroganoff> k
[02:12] <GEIS> but i need the use of amule
[02:12] <Stroganoff> use mldonkey, GEIS
[02:12] <GEIS> and amule nongui version doesn't work perfectly
[02:13] <GEIS> Stroganoff, nongui?
[02:13] <Stroganoff> yep
[02:13] <h0ax> when i try to install ndisgtk it says   some of the packages could not be retrieved from the server
[02:14] <MFen> where do i change the preference that causes totem to launch when i insert a dvd?
[02:14] <Stroganoff> GEIS: if you really want to install a desktop you should use xubuntu + the "vino" vnc server
[02:14] <moogmusic> when i suspend ubuntu 7.10 at my laptop, i dont have a network connection anymore after resuming from suspend. wny help ?
[02:14] <GEIS> Stroganoff, using a web interface to control mldonkey?
[02:14] <moogmusic> how can i restart my wifi after resuming (and it doesnt work)
[02:15] <moogmusic> ifconfig up/down doesnt work
[02:15] <Stroganoff> GEIS, web interface is built into mldonkey
[02:15] <Stroganoff> read some docs about mldonkey...
[02:16] <GEIS> only vnc server works with gui access? no inbuild applications that allows me to setup gui control?
[02:16] <Stroganoff> GEIS, you can use X forwarding
[02:16] <Stroganoff> rather complicated and doesnt work with windows
[02:16] <Kubuntu-user> I've installed commercial drivers for nvidia tnt2.after that i ran my os once more.my ubuntu 7.04 is up to date.problem:hi-res=800x600
[02:16] <HinHin> Stroganoff, X11 forwarding is really simple
[02:17] <HinHin> and you can SSH the remote machine using windows too
[02:17] <Stroganoff> anyway GEIS, you may not want to install a desktop but keep it nice and easy with mldonkey
[02:17] <HinHin> (via something like putty)
[02:17] <Stroganoff> HinHin, thanks for the heads up
[02:17] <HinHin> hmm... if memory serves you need to enable it in the sshconfig file
[02:18] <GEIS> how do i install mldonkey if i have no gui in the first place to control the web interface?
[02:18] <Stroganoff> GEIS, you set up mldonkey with the command line
[02:18] <Stroganoff> and config files
[02:19] <Stroganoff> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandlineHowto
[02:19] <Stroganoff> and read the manpage or a beginner tutorial about mldonkey
[02:19] <peter-> Stroganoff, Can you help me with this compiz?
[02:19] <Jangari> Is there a way to restart to a particular entry of the menu.lst from a command line?
[02:19] <Stroganoff> peter-, i have almost no own experience with compiz
[02:19] <HinHin> Stroganoff, and GEIS you might want to look into X11 fowarding
[02:19] <HinHin> http://thebadness.org/2007/09/x11-forwarding-in-ubuntu/
[02:19] <peter-> Ok
[02:19] <peter-> Then
[02:20] <HinHin> i do recommend a fast connection though...
[02:20] <Stroganoff> HinHin: always promoting the cause? ;)
[02:20] <Kubuntu-user> Help me
[02:20] <Stroganoff> nope
[02:20] <HinHin> the cause?
[02:20] <Stroganoff> nvm ;)
[02:21] <AnthraxDream> How do I go about setting up my wireless connection?
[02:21] <Stroganoff> Kubuntu-user: update to 7.10
[02:21] <cory__> Hello again everyone
[02:21] <ph0rensic> hey folk
[02:22] <ph0rensic> Oh man this is Sick!!!
[02:22] <cory__> !wine
[02:22] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[02:22] <AnthraxDream> it doesn't work when I manually set it up, and when I attempt to connect while using theroaming mode ubuntu locks up
[02:22] <ph0rensic> I connected my pc to my 37" flat panel tv!!
[02:22] <Stroganoff> ph0rensic, OH SHI-
[02:22] <ph0rensic> And I got wireless keyoard and mouse.. chillin on m couc hehe
[02:23] <AnthraxDream> How do I go about setting up my wireless connection?
[02:23] <Kubuntu-user> Stroganof: my os IS up to date
[02:23] <Stroganoff> your un gutsy, Kubuntu-user?
[02:23] <Stroganoff> on gutsy
[02:23] <cory__> Anthrax, its not automatic?
[02:23] <Stroganoff> !wireless | AnthraxDream
[02:23] <ubotu> AnthraxDream: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:25] <h0ax> i too am having issues setting up my wireless
[02:25] <Kubuntu-user> Yes,today i clicked update icon
[02:25] <h0ax> but im puonding thru it
[02:25] <h0ax> pounding even
[02:27] <moDumass> hey all, web based internet is super slow on my machine, any ideas?
[02:27] <moDumass> slow in Firefox and Konqueror and Opera, but not slow in bittorent
[02:27] <nikrud> moDumass you uploading at a high rate in bittorrent?
[02:28] <Dave_McFLY> hhhhhh
[02:28] <Nasra> what is bittorent .....new in linux....
[02:28] <moDumass> nikrud, no currently its off
[02:29] <nikrud> Nasra like azureas
[02:29] <moDumass> i aslo uninstalled tor and torbutton in the event that they had anything to do with it
[02:29] <nikrud> moDumass hm. that takes care of my thought
[02:29] <moDumass> hmm
[02:29] <Nasra> nikrud...how do you compare this program in windass?
[02:29] <moDumass> Nasra, what program, a torrent client
[02:30] <moDumass> i like ktorrent
[02:30] <Nasra> yes
[02:30] <nikrud> Nasra I don't use torrents much. I hear good things about deluge , another torrent client
[02:31] <kindofabuzz> o love deluge
[02:31] <kindofabuzz> i*
[02:31] <papito> habla espanol
[02:31] <nikrud> !es | papito
[02:31] <ubotu> papito: En el canal donde esta solo se premite hablar ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:33] <jbinder> http://www.jaredbinder.com/
[02:33] <jbinder> Oops.
[02:33] <jbinder> Shit.
[02:34] <jbinder> Wrong channel.
[02:34] <jbinder> And pardon my French. :P
[02:34] <kindofabuzz> !Domo arigato
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about domo arigato - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <redbrain> omg this is a huge channel
[02:37] <redbrain> :D
[02:37] <redbrain> <3 ubuntu
[02:38] <nebnav> anyone know how progress is on maemo desktop for ubuntu mobile and embedded? worth porting to devices?
[02:39] <digitalslave> for the ssl in pidgin i have found that ldd of ssl-nss.so finds libnssutil3.so not found anyone know how to fix?
[02:39] <rsk> i heard redbrain is the last windows user
[02:40] <nebnav> can i use pidgin for IRC? xchat kinda sucks.
[02:40] <h0ax> I cannot tell if my issue is with wpa or with the wireless card   I went to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsLinksys and some people have had this card work out of the box not sure what to do
[02:40] <Starnestommy> nebnav: you could, but pidgin's irc support isn't very good
[02:40] <digitalslave> nebnav, yes you can
[02:40] <kindofabuzz> rsk: use chatzilla!
[02:40] <kindofabuzz> firefox addon
[02:40] <daved> kindofabuzz, that's kinda like saying "that hammer sucks, here have a rock"
[02:41] <nebnav> what are you using? i presume your on a linux based os(ubuntu).
[02:41] <kindofabuzz> what's wrong with chatzilla?  better tha an im plugin and xchat
[02:41] <daved> i use xchat with a bunch of preferences tweaked
[02:41] <daved> and blacktheme
[02:42] <Starnestommy> kindofabuzz: if firefox crashes, so does chatzilla, and you have to restart chatzilla when firefox has to restart
[02:42] <digitalslave> anyone know what the libpurple2 package is called?
[02:42] <daved> but i agree it's really not that great, just the best of the crap
[02:42] <Dr_willis> I will stick with xchat.
[02:42] <kindofabuzz> i've never had firefox crash so...
[02:42] <ythe1300> I have
[02:42] <digitalslave> kindofabuzz is NOT a myspace user ;)
[02:42] <Dr_willis> we need a flash based irc client.....
[02:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:42] <daved> i've never had firefox not crash at least once a day
[02:42] <Starnestommy> digitalslave: it might be libpurple0 or libpurrple-dev
[02:42] <digitalslave> ouch not flash
[02:42] <Starnestommy> *libpurple-dev
[02:42] <ythe1300> nither am I
[02:43] <ythe1300> @ David: ouch
[02:43] <nathan42100> so....I just deleted some things and they aren't in the trash....
[02:43] <ythe1300> ..?
[02:44] <digitalslave> there IS a difference between delete and send to trash ;)
[02:44] <Schmiez> i still cant freakin get my ATI Raedon 9250 PCI card working with ubuntu
[02:44] <Schmiez> i dunno what i'm doing wrong
[02:44] <nathan42100> ....I thought the delete key sent it to the trash, like windows...
[02:44] <daved> nathan: delete like hit the delete key or delete like 'rm -rf /'
[02:44] <nathan42100> delete key daved
[02:45] <pantaloon> has anyone actually burned a file >4gb? I've got k3b 1.04 installed with mkisofs and genisoimage and I get an error every time I try to add a file larger than 4gb
[02:45] <nathan42100> would the fact that I am deleting them in xubuntu make a difference?
[02:45] <daved> nathan42100, it could
[02:45] <daved> nathan42100, it's all up to your windowmanager to deal with trash
[02:46] <pantaloon> tried both udf and rockridge udf
[02:46] <Dr_willis> pantaloon,  dont you need to use the udf filesystem for that? I seem to recall some other burner app warning me of this.
[02:46] <ythe1300> Schmiez: even with the nos drivers?
[02:46] <Schmiez> can anyone help? i've got an ATI Raedn 9250 PCI Graphics card and when its hooked up to my pci slot, and boot my pc, ubuntu doesn't even load up
[02:46] <digitalslave> ugggg f pidgin i say i dunno what the deal is reinstalled purple and pidgin and still no ssl
[02:46] <pantaloon> yes, you do, but it still doesn't work :(
[02:46] <Schmiez> ythe1300: nos drivers?
[02:46] <ythe1300> Non-Open Source
[02:46] <daved> Schmiez, buy an nvidia card
[02:47] <ythe1300> daved: :P
[02:47] <nebnav> how do i convert from .avi to dvd file structure? mencoder or something? 7.10
[02:47] <Schmiez> i dunno how to get the drivers to work
[02:47] <ythe1300> Schmiez: is it booting at all?
[02:47] <daved> well i was only half-joking.. if he values his time at all it will be worth it in the end to just suck it up and buy the better-supported card :)
[02:47] <Nasra> Can you tell me ....how Bittorent is used for?
[02:47] <kindofabuzz> pantaloon: does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=352386
[02:47] <Schmiez> it gets to the point with the ubuntu logo, and the bar, the bar fills up, then the screen goes black and nothing happens
[02:48] <daved> nasra: downloading files
[02:48] <ythe1300> Daved: true
[02:48] <kindofabuzz> Nasra: for torrents
[02:48] <Stroganoff> nebnav: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567016
[02:48] <Nasra> yes sir....
[02:48] <themoebius> hey, I'm trying to remove a service from running by default. its /etc/init.d/boinc-client and its not in my sessions list when I go to System-> Preferences -> sessions
[02:48] <Nasra> I am new to linux....I am learning now...
[02:48] <kindofabuzz> !torrent | Nasra
[02:48] <ubotu> Nasra: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[02:48] <ythe1300> Schmiez: still though we can get it to work :)
[02:49] <daved> themoebius:  update-rc.d boinc-client remove
[02:49] <Nasra> so can I use it to burn an iso...as in linux.....
[02:49] <Nasra> ?
[02:49] <Pici> themoebius: 'Session' services only run once you login, daved's command will work.
[02:49] <Pici> !boot | also themoebius
[02:49] <ubotu> also themoebius: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:49] <Schmiez> ythe1300: what can i do to get it to work?
[02:49]  * w30 wants to apologize to all the MS Vista users for gloating. I just upgraded my laptop to the latest and greatest ultimate operating system and had no driver or application problems whatsoever. Suspend and hybernate work perfect, the wireless connection is rock solid. What more can I say. (Upgraded Feisty to Gutsy Gibbon).
[02:49] <ythe1300> got to give me more info.
[02:49] <Nasra> ok...kind of understanding
[02:49] <Schmiez> like what?
[02:49] <nathan42100> daved, any other ideas?
[02:49] <ythe1300> Schmiez:
[02:49] <daved> pici: ah thanks, been looking for something like bum :)
[02:50] <pantaloon> kindofabuzz, not really...i've already tried K3b v1.0.4 and it's a no go...i've managed to create an iso file using genisoimage from the command line, but i was hoping there'd be a more graphical method if you know what I mean
[02:50] <tehquickness> Anyone notice that 8.04 is much slower than 7.10?? is this due to Gnome 2.2??
[02:50] <Stroganoff> w30 wait until you run into problems ;)
[02:50] <themoebius> daved: it says update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/boinc-client exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[02:50] <nebnav> Stroganoff: thanks but is there some sort of batch script that will install deps and then convert?
[02:50] <ythe1300> Schmiez:  does it boot with onboard?
[02:50] <daved> nathan42100, not sure what wm you're running under xfce4 but it may use a different system for "trash"
[02:50] <kindofabuzz> digitalslave: Why can't I use OpenSSL for SSL support in libpurple? ¶
[02:50] <kindofabuzz> The OpenSSL license is not compatible with the libpurple license (GPLv2). The Free Software Foundation maintains a list of open-source licenses and details their compatibility or incompatibility with the GPL. The OpenSSL license is discussed there.
[02:50] <Schmiez> ythe1300: yah it boots with onboard
[02:50] <kindofabuzz> In summary: you need GNUTLS or Mozilla NSS and NSPR; OpenSSL will not do.
[02:50] <daved> themoebius, update-rc.d -f boinc-client remove
[02:51] <nathan42100> daved, is it still trash:///
[02:51] <GEIS> Stroganoff, i cant find installation guide for mldonkey webui version
[02:51] <w30> Stroganoff: No worry, you guys in here will help me fix 'em.
[02:51] <Schmiez> ythe1300: yah it boots with onboard
[02:51] <ythe1300> Schmiez: Have you tried booting with the Onboard turned off in the BIOS
[02:51] <Stroganoff> GEIS: just install mldonkey with sudo apt-get install mldonkey
[02:51] <daved> themoebius, technically you need to set it to kill at runlevel 3, but the link or software pici linked will be much more helpful to you if you're not sure what i mean by that
[02:51] <Schmiez> no i havent. i'll try that real quick
[02:51] <Stroganoff> then read the manpage with: man mldonkey
[02:51] <digitalslave> then why is libpurple0 a dependency of pidgin?
[02:51] <pantaloon> kindofabuzz, I'm trying to burn said iso file now
[02:51] <daved> themoebius, but running that command will disable it for now (though it may begin autostarting again if boinc-client package upgrades)
[02:52] <daved> nathan42100, im really not sure, i dont run xfce4
[02:52] <daved> nathan42100, it may not use the trash at all
[02:52] <nathan42100> try it in GNOME
[02:52] <ythe1300> k
[02:52] <ythe1300> k
[02:52] <Stroganoff> w30: first help urself with wiki, google and obtaining debian/linux background knowlege ;)
[02:52] <digitalslave> which also brings me back to the fd up firefox!
[02:52] <themoebius> daved: thanks
[02:52] <nathan42100> i know it does the Icon is still in the bottom right corner...
[02:52] <daved> nathan42100, my trash works fine in gnome
[02:52] <daved> themoebius, np
[02:52] <Dr_willis> daved,  i seem to recall xfce doing somthing differently with trash.. but i dont use it either.
[02:52] <fab4fan> hi
[02:53] <nathan42100> daved
[02:53] <Schmiez> ythe1300
[02:53] <kindofabuzz> digitalslave: here's that link again in case you didn't read it earlier: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/FAQssl
[02:53] <nathan42100> fixed, but kinda
[02:53] <nathan42100> not really
[02:53] <digitalslave> anyone know the nss and nspr package names?
[02:53] <Schmiez> ythe1300: disabled and trying it now.
[02:53] <GEIS> what does mldonkey stands for anyway
[02:53] <ythe1300> k
[02:53] <Stroganoff> GEIS, wtf?
[02:53] <w30> Stroganoff: doing it that way is much better because you learn something by doing it yourself if possible.
[02:53] <Stroganoff> GEIS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mldonkey
[02:53] <Scunizi> nathan42100, in Gnome if you delete something it's gone.. If you send it to trash it lands in the "trash can"
[02:53] <nathan42100> daved, there is a difference between trash: (where it all went to) and trash:/// (which is what the shortcut in the bottom right brings me to)
[02:53] <Schmiez> the ubuntu logo shows up. and the bar is loading.....
[02:53] <digitalslave> ive read if over and over and it has nothing to solve the problem and you dont understand the problem or you wouldnt be posting the link ovekr and over
[02:53] <Schmiez> once it completely fills the screen goes black
[02:53] <ythe1300> I know that I had a PC that would not boot with my 5200 unless the onboard GFX was disabled.
[02:54] <ythe1300> Schmiez:
[02:54] <Schmiez> and then nothing happens at all
[02:54] <nathan42100> daved, doesnt do that for me...
[02:54] <ythe1300> :(
[02:54] <Schmiez> T_T
[02:54] <Schmiez> i'll never freakin get this thing to work
[02:54] <Schmiez> i just got ubuntu and started it for the first time today
[02:54] <ythe1300> Schmiez: Have you tried to boot in low GFX mode?
[02:54] <fab4fan> Schmiez: and ?
[02:54] <nathan42100> :-/ no restore button
[02:54] <nathan42100> Shmiez, whats the problem?
[02:54] <Nasra> ...just started like a week ago....I love it...
[02:55] <Schmiez> ythe1300: how do i do that
[02:55] <Nasra> real learning big time....by asking alotof questions...
[02:55] <Schmiez> the problem is i cant get my ATI Raedon 9250 to work with ubuntu
[02:55] <ythe1300> Schmiez: booting off the live CD?
[02:55] <daved> my first copy of linux came on a 1.4m floppy :P
[02:55] <Stroganoff> Schmiez, it should run using the open source "ati" drivers
[02:55] <Schmiez> the onboard vid card works, but when i have my monitor hooked up to my ati, or if i have my Ati in my pc at all, it doesn't work
[02:55] <kindofabuzz> david: DSL?
[02:56] <daved> kindofabuzz, slackware
[02:56] <nathan42100> schmiez, did you try the safegraphics boot?
[02:56] <ythe1300> :)
[02:56] <kindofabuzz> k
[02:56] <fab4fan> Schmiez, is there a BIOS setting to disable your onboard video card ?
[02:56] <Schmiez> fab4fan: i did that already just tried it
[02:56] <ythe1300> fab4fan: already tried that
[02:56] <fab4fan> ok, just checking
[02:56] <ryan> @daved wow and to make matters worse it was metric
[02:56] <w30> daved: I am a new user then; I started with RedHat 4.6 on a cd. *smile*
[02:56] <Schmiez> i can get a safegraphics boot to work, but its just gives me the terminal
[02:56] <Lleumas> The thumbnail previews to my videos aren't showing up. Any ideas? I have xine installed.
[02:56] <ythe1300> that's fine
[02:57] <kindofabuzz> yeah i think my first install was red hat
[02:57] <kindofabuzz> i love Debian distros though now
[02:57] <w30> no live cd's though.
[02:57] <ythe1300> Schmiez: you should be able to edit the video config file from there.
[02:57] <cory__> hey guys im thinking about dual booting Windows XP, can i do this with Ubuntu installed first?
[02:57] <Stroganoff> i started with suse 7.3 on ten cds ;)
[02:57] <Schmiez> ythe1300: how do i go about doing that?
[02:57] <ythe1300> Schmiez: giv e me a sec and I'll remember how too.
[02:57] <fab4fan> cory__, I had better luck with XP installed first
[02:58] <fab4fan> cory:  that's what I'm doing now
[02:58] <kindofabuzz> cory__: yeah it's possible, google it though, unless someone here knows what to do
[02:58] <Schmiez> ok
[02:58] <daved> cory: you can, but you'll need to fix the boot-loader after windows clobbers it
[02:58] <daved> cory: there are about a gajillion hits on google for that very topic i'd imagine
[02:58] <kindofabuzz> why would you wanna install it though? =)
[02:58] <cory__> to play games
[02:58] <h0ax> ah
[02:58] <Stroganoff> cory__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoverGrub
[02:59] <w30> cory__: windows likes the first partition on the first hard drive so watch out and also windows will redo the mbr.
[02:59] <kindofabuzz> have you looked at www.winehq.com to see if possible to play uneder wine?
[02:59] <daved> cory: may want to give wine/cedega a shot with your games first.. could possibly save yourself the trouble of dualboot
[02:59] <ythe1300> it's like edit x.org config
[02:59] <ythe1300> :/
[02:59] <cory__> I did try wine, It doesnt play sound from my USB headphones
[02:59] <Stroganoff> rather quake3 for ever than using wine for games ^^
[02:59] <fab4fan> can you rename a mount point after it's been created ?
[02:59] <ythe1300> Schmiez : let me boot my box up brb
[02:59] <Schmiez> ok
[03:00] <kindofabuzz> so you're gonna install windows just so your usb headphones will work?
[03:00] <kindofabuzz> i'm ure there's a fix for it
[03:00] <cory__> cedega sounded like a good idea, but i dont wanna pay
[03:00] <daved> cory: you have to pay for windows
[03:00] <cory__> i dont
[03:00] <cory__> it comes free for me
[03:00] <kindofabuzz> cedage cheaper than windows
[03:00] <icesword> you ve payed to it
[03:01] <Stroganoff> ok all, lets move this cedega-vs-windows talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:01] <Stroganoff> cory__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoverGrub
[03:01] <kindofabuzz> anyone tried Mepis?  any good?
[03:01] <w30> kindofabuzz: Does ndiswrapper work with all windows drivers or just with a few like wireless and winmodems?
[03:01] <cory__> well i tried to dualboot ubuntu from windows XP, but my partition with windows on it dissapeared
[03:01] <kindofabuzz> w30: dunno =)
[03:01] <cory__> so i cant access that. and my hd is 100gigs smaller according to Gparted
[03:01] <fab4fan> cory:  you have to be careful when you set up the partition for ubuntu to not write over the windows partition
[03:02] <digitalslave> and you dont HAVE to pay for cedega - build it yourself or use wine
[03:02] <neosix> Hello! I'm using Fluxbuntu and I don't know how to change cursor theme?
[03:02] <cory__> and fdisk -l says its only 200g harddrive
[03:02] <ythe1300> Schmiez:  booting into safe GFX now :)
[03:02] <neosix> can anybody help me?
[03:02] <Schmiez> ythe1300: already there
[03:02] <w30> kindofabuzz: it would be kool if ndiswrapper would make some of these laptop cameras work.
[03:02] <Schmiez> lol
[03:02] <ythe1300> Schmiez: me :P
[03:02] <Schmiez> ooh
[03:02] <Schmiez> heh
[03:02] <fab4fan> I could use some help with renaming mount points and getting them to automount at startup so they appear on my desktop
[03:03] <ythe1300> can you start X?
[03:03] <Stroganoff> neosix: sudo apt-get install xfce4-mcs-plugins
[03:03] <Stroganoff> thats the easy way
[03:03] <Schmiez> start X?
[03:03] <ythe1300> (   startx   )
[03:03] <ythe1300> Schmiez
[03:03] <Schmiez> what do i type?
[03:03] <ythe1300> Schmiez just startx
[03:04] <Schmiez> oh lol
[03:04] <Nasra> !azureas
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about azureas - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <Schmiez> startx gave me a black screen
[03:04] <ythe1300> :(
[03:04] <ythe1300> would have been to easy ;)
[03:04] <DG19075> !azureus |Nasra
[03:04] <ubotu> Nasra: azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[03:04] <nebnav> help! if i dd'd my hard drive and created an .img (compressed it) could i somehow mount a partition with this image? plz help!
[03:05] <Schmiez> lol yeah of course, its never that easy :P
[03:05] <kindofabuzz> Schmiez: gnome?
[03:05] <w30> fab4fan: you need to edit /etc/fstab. If you don't know how then check out google and see what advice comes up there.
[03:05] <daved> nebnav: (as root)   mount -o loop /path/to/.img  /mnt/point
[03:05] <Schmiez> kindofabuzz: hmm? what about gnome?
[03:05] <kindofabuzz> what WM are you trying to start?
[03:05] <Schmiez> ubuntu
[03:06] <Schmiez> i've got an ATI Raedon 9250 PCI card
[03:06] <kindofabuzz> so gnome?
[03:06] <Schmiez> and i can't get ubuntu to show up with it
[03:06] <Schmiez> yea gnome
[03:06] <ythe1300> Schmiez: try this dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:06] <nebnav> daved: i know about loop devices, but could i mount the image as the main hard drive and use it.
[03:06] <kindofabuzz> try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:06] <w30> fab4fan: "/dev/hda3       /diri           ext3    defaults 1 1"; thats opne of mine
[03:06] <w30> opne/one
[03:06] <daved> nebnav: you want to boot off of it?
[03:06] <fab4fan> can i rename a mountpoint in Gparted ?
[03:06] <kjp2> so I've followed the instrucitons on the wiki, to get zfs working through FUSE but it fails, restarting with a error found at pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60821/
[03:07] <kjp2> any thoughts ?
[03:07] <Schmiez> ythe1300: i tried doing that :/
[03:07] <ythe1300> :(
[03:07] <ythe1300> nothing?
[03:07] <fab4fan> w30:  in your fstab file ?
[03:07] <Schmiez> it walks me through the whole procedure
[03:07] <kindofabuzz> Schmiez: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:07] <nebnav> daved: yeah i know it sounds crazy but some sort of netboot or configure grub or something. pxe maybe.
[03:07] <Schmiez> alright give me one moment
[03:08] <daved> kjp: pastie the contents of /etc/init.d/zfs-fuse
[03:08] <redbrain> hey join #linuxoutlaws :)
[03:08] <w30> fab4fan: yep! "/dev/hda5       /mnt/win_c      vfat    user,exec,rw,noauto,iocharset=utf8,umask=0      0 0"; another example
[03:08] <redbrain> or listen to the podcast bring linux user community closer together
[03:08] <redbrain> :)
[03:08] <daved> nebnav: it's technically possible, and you want to look towards advanced grub configs.. pxe and netboot arent going to help you
[03:08] <Schmiez> kindofabuzz: i just get a black screen like always
[03:09] <kindofabuzz> yeah your xorg.conf is screwed
[03:09] <Schmiez> what can i do to fix it?
[03:09] <w30> fab4fan: the mount point has to exist. like /diri and /mnt/win_c
[03:09] <kindofabuzz> did you do what ythe1300 suggested?
[03:09] <Schmiez> yeah
[03:09] <kindofabuzz> hmm
[03:10] <ythe1300> Schmiez: the command I gave you earlier should have worked :(
[03:10] <Schmiez> i finish it and i dont know what to do afterwards
[03:10] <kindofabuzz> reboot?
[03:10] <fab4fan> w30: so I create the mountpoint first ?
[03:10] <Schmiez> yeah i try that and i still have the same problem
[03:10] <w30> fab4fan: the command mkdir works for that if you don't know.
[03:10] <w30> fab4fan: yep.
[03:10] <ythe1300> Schmiez: can you boot with the live CD?
[03:10] <fab4fan> w30:  thanks, I know the command mkdir
[03:10] <Schmiez> no
[03:10] <ythe1300> (make sure you have the onboard off)
[03:10] <kindofabuzz> hit trl-alt f7
[03:11] <kindofabuzz> ctrl
[03:11] <nebnav> daved: replace the ramdisk or something? probably not.
[03:11] <Schmiez> me?
[03:11] <fab4fan> w30:  about 7 years ago I used Unix on the job, but it's been a w hile
[03:11] <kindofabuzz> just to make sure you're not in a vt
[03:11] <Schmiez> nothin happens when i do that
[03:11] <kindofabuzz> yeah Schmiez
[03:11] <daved> nebnav: the "easiest" (and take that with a grain of salt) way would be to resize partitions to make room for a paritition the same size or bigger than your .img,  dd the .img on to it and boot from that
[03:11] <w30> fab4fan: in fstab be sure and use the complete path with / and everything for clarity.
[03:11] <fab4fan> w30:  what are the parameters "1  1" in the fstab mean ?
[03:11] <Schmiez> i couldn't get the live cd to work either, so i used the alternate
[03:12] <daved> kjp2: paste the contents of /etc/init.d/zfs-fuse onto paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:12] <kjp2> daved:  coming.
[03:12] <tehquickness> Has anyone notice that gnome 2.22 is slow?
[03:12] <w30> fab4fan: look at man fstab for that stuff
[03:12] <Schmiez> kindofabuzz: nothing happens when i do that
[03:12] <rick_> hi im having trouble with gnome, http://pastebin.com/f7da51a6e
[03:12] <fab4fan> w30: got it, forgot about "man"
[03:12]  * RabidWeezle looks at his dvd::rip
[03:12] <kindofabuzz> Schmiez: is this a fresh install?
[03:12] <darkcrab> Problem: if I try to run my games in fullscreen while desktop effects and emerald is enabled, I get a blinking box on the screen, is there a fix?
[03:13] <daved> rick: i have to say that's the first textual rickroll ive seen
[03:13] <Schmiez> kindofabuzz: yeah, i installed it just a few hours ago
[03:13] <RabidWeezle> oh great, I ripped it in spanish
[03:13]  * RabidWeezle smacks head
[03:13] <rick_> daved: :)
[03:13] <Schmiez> i've been using ubuntu with my onboard gfx
[03:13] <ROMES> help
[03:13] <kindofabuzz> Schmiez: so when you boot up you just get a black screen from the beginning?
[03:13] <ROMES> !help
[03:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:13] <kjp2> daved: here's the file. (after the **** line) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60823/
[03:14] <Schmiez> when i boot up, it gets to the ubuntu logo, and the bar, the bar fills up, then right afterwards (where ubuntu would start ) i just get a black screen
[03:14] <Stroganoff> lol @ ROMES
[03:14] <RabidWeezle> anyone good with dvd::rip?
[03:14] <ythe1300> :/
[03:14] <kindofabuzz> hmm
[03:15] <darkcrab> Problem: if I try to run my games in fullscreen while desktop effects and emerald is enabled, I get a blinking box on the screen, is there a fix?
[03:15] <nebnav> daved: thanks!
[03:15] <Schmiez> when i boot up, it gets to the ubuntu logo, and the bar, the bar fills up, then right afterwards (where ubuntu would start ) i just get a black screen
[03:15] <RabidWeezle> darkcrab, I always shut down compiz for fullscreen games
[03:15] <Schmiez> oops
[03:15] <Schmiez> sorry
[03:15] <yowshi> grrr virtualbox is useless for games
[03:15] <darkcrab> so it is a known bug rabidweezle?
[03:16] <Stroganoff> yowshi, monkey island 2 runs well in vbox ;)
[03:16] <sap> Hi, would someone be knowing a quick (easier) method of converting ~ 30 images from .GIF to .JPEG ? ( i.e. without having to open each individual image in GIMP and choosing "save as" option individually for each of those images , which is time consuming)
[03:16] <daved> kjp2, change the line   if [ $COUNTER = 10 ]; then   to have   == instead of =
[03:16] <Stroganoff> one should use scummVM though
[03:16] <yowshi> Stroganoff: i just tried to run starcontrol 2
[03:16] <RabidWeezle> darkcrab, it's something to do with glx and compositing, it's ALWAYS alot faster to disable compositing before you run a gl/glx game
[03:16] <yowshi> and before that starcraft
[03:16] <cyclonut> need some bash help with the following script: http://pastebin.com/d6b561960
[03:16] <Schmiez> :(
[03:16] <darkcrab> k thank you Rabidweezle
[03:17] <yowshi> Stroganoff: it just runs so freaking slow
[03:17] <justinmiller87> Is there a service I can stop and restart in order to have my user groups refresh without logging out and back in?
[03:17] <Schmiez> you have any other ideas kindofabuzz, or ythe1300?
[03:17] <cabrioleur> Stroganoff, it runs well in dosbox too.
[03:17] <cyclonut> lines 13-19 are the issue. if its parmater set to stacked, it does not work properly
[03:17] <Stroganoff> yowshi: use dosbox
[03:17] <w30> darkcrab: do you have a nvidia propriatory driver?
[03:17] <yowshi> starcraft is a windows game starcontrol 2 is a dos
[03:17] <ythe1300> Schmiez: no man that's kind of messed up
[03:17] <kindofabuzz> Schmiez: try rebooting into recovery mode, hit esc so you get the grub
[03:17] <Stroganoff> cabrioleur, i like you lurking factoid bots
[03:17] <cyclonut> ooops replace line 19 with xrandr --output VGA --$movetoside LVDS
[03:17] <kindofabuzz> if you don't already get it
[03:17] <cattellar> hi, I have a network with Uubuntu 7.10 and Windows Vista, I want to print from my vista laptop, I can but I have to click in the network and put a username and password to do it. Is there a way to do it automatically without submitting a password?
[03:17] <Schmiez> ok
[03:18] <darkcrab> no w30, I have a integrated intel chipset with an intel graphics card.
[03:18] <yowshi> and yeah i would normally use dosbox for starcon 2 but for starcraft wines gotten a little screwy for starcraft
[03:18] <cyclonut> wouldnt ya know it, as soon as I ask it works
[03:18] <kjp2> daved: same error.
[03:18] <cabrioleur> Stroganoff, I'm a long term dosbox user, as well as dosemu. I need my Betrayal at Krondor from time to time and dosbox is a lifesaver.
[03:18] <darkcrab> dosbox is amazing
[03:18] <Schmiez> alright i'm in recovery mode
[03:18] <Stroganoff> didn't mean or wanted to know that, cabri.
[03:18] <Schmiez> now what?
[03:18] <kindofabuzz> Schmiez: now do the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:19] <yowshi> cabrioleur: yeah but i want virtualbox to run xo so i have a sure fire way to run any windows game i want
[03:19] <yowshi> wine is buggy and breaks from release to release
[03:19] <kindofabuzz> Schmiez: i'm not a pro at this, i'm pretty much googlin' for ya lol
[03:19] <daved> kjp: does "stop" work and "restart" not work?
[03:19] <cabrioleur> yowshi, invest in vmware.
[03:19] <justinmiller87> Can I refresh my group memberships without logging out and back in?
[03:19] <yowshi> i like wine it just isnt as reliable as i would like
[03:19] <kjp2> daved: stop fails as well.
[03:20] <yowshi> cabrioleur: why should i pay twice to run an os?\
[03:20] <RabidWeezle> dosbox is great, but you know, I noticed though that the windows version runs descent better, maybe I need to use their svn :/
[03:20] <kindofabuzz> the newest wine is pretty good compared to other versions
[03:20] <cabrioleur> yowshi, you pay 1 for os, and 1 for virtualization that works.
[03:20] <tbwnoob> #winehq
[03:20] <RabidWeezle> wine is getting better by the day it seems, I can't wait for their 1.0 release
[03:20] <mackid> yowshi, if you want a sure-fire way to run any windows game you want, then buy cedega
[03:20] <w30> darkcrab: the binary driver from Nvidia is causing problems like that and also loosing f7 when switched from one of the other f(n) consoles. I used flglx or whatever it was in beryl to get away from that.
[03:20] <yowshi> RabidWeezle: i found that the windows version ran sloooooow. but i was using a p2 450 at the time
[03:20] <yowshi> mackid: wine > cedega
[03:21] <tbwnoob> How do you change your ati depth to 16 without crashing your xserver
[03:21] <cabrioleur> mackid, cedega doesn't work for all games.
[03:21] <orudie> what is a name of a graph library ?
[03:21] <RabidWeezle> I'm running a 2.1 ghz, but did you try frame skipping yowshi ?
[03:21] <CRINGO> I have an extra internal hdd that I've been trying to add to fstab under a different directory, but it won't mount, I have to mount it with root and it calls it "disk" like it's an external hdd, and each time I boot, it has a different UUID, anyone know why this may be?
[03:21] <mackid> yowshi: or install windows, then, i guess. and yes, you're right cabrioleur
[03:21] <RabidWeezle> frameskipping can mean a world of difference in dosbox
[03:22] <MrVirus> Hey is anyone useing proftpd?
[03:22] <Schmiez> kindofabuzz: is their anyhing specific i should put in the reconfigure when i'm going through this?
[03:22] <zachwlewis> I've been trying to install cnet (a network simulator), but every time I try to run make, I get the same error: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size. What should I look for in changing the default int size to match the one on my 64-bit machine?
[03:22] <ythe1300> Schmiez: you may want to post this one up in the forums and see if a mod can help out
[03:22] <kindofabuzz> not that i can think of, maybe try vesa?
[03:22] <mackid> zachwlewis: it's not an error if it's a warning
[03:22] <calc> zachwlewis: good luck with that
[03:22] <ythe1300> Schmiez: just the video
[03:22] <MrVirus> Im having a permissions problem with proftpd, I cant amend/reset any files
[03:22] <wenceslao> hello every one
[03:22] <calc> zachwlewis: its probably not 64bit clean
[03:22] <cabrioleur> RabidWeezle, It's strange, but my dosbox on slackware (from linuxpackages) runs times faster that on anything else. Never understood why. Must be the config.
[03:23] <zachwlewis> calc: The way it's set up, it treats all warning as errors and fails to compile.
[03:23] <wenceslao> new to lenux and this chat
[03:23] <wenceslao> can some one please teach me more
[03:23] <calc> zachwlewis: its probably not really a warning for a 64bit machine
[03:23] <zachwlewis> calc: I've not got a 64-bit version of Ubuntu installed.
[03:23] <cabrioleur> wenceslao, you need a book!
[03:23] <calc> zachwlewis: an int and a pointer are different sizes on 64bit systems
[03:23] <wenceslao> i have one
[03:23] <kindofabuzz> man Gov't Mule rocks =)
[03:23] <calc> zachwlewis: oh i see
[03:23] <ythe1300> kindofabuzz:  sounds like a good Idea, I know that my 3870 won't boot with the Ati driver.
[03:23] <wenceslao> but i also want to make more friends cabrioleur
[03:23] <mackid> zachwlewis: you should... consider.. installing amd64 ubuntu if you have a 64bit machine
[03:23] <RabidWeezle> cabrioleur, probably was compiled better by the packager
[03:23] <calc> zachwlewis: so you are running ubuntu i386 then?
[03:24] <CRINGO> I have an extra internal hdd that I've been trying to add to fstab under a different directory, but it won't mount, I have to mount it with root and it calls it "disk" like it's an external hdd, and each time I boot, it has a different UUID, anyone know why this may be?
[03:24] <zachwlewis> calc: How can I check that? I'm actually not 100%.
[03:24] <wenceslao> how can i update my fire fox software
[03:24] <Schmiez> all done and now rebooting
[03:24] <donkey7186> How do i get someone to remote desktop my computer??????????
[03:24] <mackid> zachwlewis: $ uname -a
[03:24] <ythe1300> Schmiez: Crosses fingers
[03:24] <cabrioleur> wenceslao, then ask questions if you don't understand something. Beside, I'm glad you are trying Linux out.
[03:24]  * Schmiez crosses finger
[03:24] <Schmiez> s
[03:24] <kindofabuzz> zachwlewis: what is your processor? if just a pentium then yeah you have i386
[03:24] <calc> zachwlewis: assuming you are running the 32bit verison of Ubuntu then removing the -werror from the compiler options should let it compile
[03:24] <fk7_se> hello everyone
[03:24] <wenceslao> i have already downloaded the newest version
[03:25] <wenceslao> but the comp is still running the old version
[03:25] <kindofabuzz> Schmiez: hehe
[03:25] <zachwlewis> Linux cottontail 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:25] <calc> kindofabuzz: some pentium 4's can run amd64 version
[03:25] <wenceslao> can some one help me with that
[03:25] <nikrud> CRINGO the only reason it could have a new uuid is if you manually changed it, or the partition definition somehow got changed.
[03:25] <calc> zachwlewis: you are using the 64bit version
[03:25] <mackid> zachwlewis: that's amd64. hence x86_64
[03:25] <Schmiez> i got a bunch of text
[03:25] <fk7_se> i just got apache to work but i can't view any jpgs on my server, it says forbidden
[03:25] <RabidWeezle> wenceslao, is it a .run file or a tar.gz?
[03:25] <zachwlewis> calc: Okay, I see.
[03:25] <Schmiez> asking me to type in my ser login
[03:25] <ythe1300> calc: ?
[03:25] <kindofabuzz> calc: didn't know that, but why would you wanna do that?
[03:25] <calc> zachwlewis: so you can't make that code work as is, because its not written properly and won't work on 64bit
[03:25] <wenceslao> run file
[03:25] <w30> wenceslao: there are books out there now for you distribution if it's a major one.
[03:25] <kjp2> daved: any other ideas ?
[03:25] <donkey7186> How do i get someone to remote desktop my computer??????????
[03:25] <wenceslao> is ubuntu
[03:25] <calc> ythe1300: ?
[03:25] <fk7_se> vncviewer
[03:26] <cabrioleur> wenceslao, "chmod +x *.run", "./nameofthefile.run"
[03:26] <zachwlewis> calc: Any way to force it to run in 32-bit mode, or run a 32-bit emulator on my machine?
[03:26] <ythe1300> calc: there where no 64bit P4's
[03:26] <calc> zachwlewis: not easily
[03:26] <fk7_se> donkey: vncviewer
[03:26] <donkey7186> fk7_se how do i get that
[03:26] <wenceslao> thx cabrioleur i will try it
[03:26] <w30> wenceslao: Also play around on Ubuntu.com and their forums and wiki's and howtos
[03:26] <Schmiez> ythe1300, kindofabuzz: i did it, rebooted, boot normally, and now i've got a text based login
[03:26] <RabidWeezle> wenceslao, right click the file, set the attributes that it can be executed, then in a terminal run it like: sudo ./nameoffile.run
[03:26] <calc> ythe1300: oh i think i am getting confused there were 'Pentium D' that were 64bit
[03:26] <fk7_se> type it into terminal, are you using ubuntu?
[03:26] <donkey7186> yes
[03:26] <ythe1300> Schmiez:
[03:26] <kindofabuzz> Schmiez: so making progress?
[03:26] <Schmiez> i hope this is