[06:09] <toulouse> it says to make sure my sound card is config'd properly, and that no other app is blocking soundcard
[06:09] <kupesoft> What package installs the manpages for c development?
[06:10] <Wo|f> ah crud, private /msg doesn't work
[06:10] <sum0> toulouse: try 'killall esd'
[06:10] <toulouse> ok
[06:10] <sum0> toulouse: and restart xmms
[06:10] <toulouse> : no process killed
[06:10] <ant_> i forgot
[06:10] <bionic_seahorse> hello all
[06:10] <Wo|f> ant_, you might download both packages, and then look at them both. try the Edgy one first
[06:11] <ant_> ok
[06:11] <toulouse> sum0: tried, it didnt work
[06:11] <sum0> toulouse: can you give me one line of the error verbatim?
[06:11] <toulouse> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Device or resource busy
[06:12] <ohioboy757> \quit
[06:12] <eV_64> can someone recommend an identd daemon?
[06:12] <ant_> when we played with it i was just getting into ubuntu and he was wanting to do the same.. he soon lost interest, but i have a little dirt under my fingers now
[06:12] <kupesoft> What package installs the docs for c?
[06:12] <Wo|f> ant_, Nice.
[06:13] <bionic_seahorse> anybody have a working dual-head setup using an ATI card?
[06:13] <ant_> at that time you would of told me edgy and i woulda said huh
[06:13] <toulouse> sum0: i'll try a restart, and if that doesnt work, it's another day's problem, i have to go to bed now
[06:13] <sum0> toulouse: are you running gaim?
[06:13] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, yeah
[06:13] <toulouse> nope
[06:13] <eV_64> can someone recommend an identd daemon?
[06:13] <Joshooa> I need help with a hard drive problem, it keeps freezing my computer.  I'm pretty sure it's a hard drive problem cause I deleted /media/hdb - hdb3, which I made earlier trying to mount it all, and now it randomly freezes and I can see fsck in the beginning, and it checks hda ok and then never checks hdb but hangs for a bit and then loads, if it loads at all
[06:13] <mjbrooks> ant_: Good Evening
[06:13] <toulouse> sum0: no
[06:13] <tunganet> If i want to put space between "program files" in terminal, what do i do to this line"cd /home/USER/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam"?
[06:13] <ant_> mjbrooks : hey
[06:13] <bionic_seahorse> hey wolf
[06:13] <bionic_seahorse> can't get mine to work... you got a couple of mins?
[06:14] <toulouse> sum0: i recently installed xubuntu (xfce) and that's around the time when the errors started
[06:14] <eV_64> tunganet: you can usually drag and drop files to terminal
[06:14] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, sure, I'll try to help
[06:14] <tunganet> ev_64 i am trying to get to that directory to run another line
[06:14] <mjbrooks> ant_: busted my laptop today :(
[06:14] <toulouse> so i'll get rid of that i guess, i dunno, i have to go to bed , ive got school in the morning
[06:14] <sum0> toulouse: do you hear the startup sound?
[06:14] <roler> what are some good brands of laptops out there now a days besides Dell?
[06:14] <ant_> mjbrooks : out the window??
[06:14] <eV_64> can you hit tab?
[06:14] <toulouse> sum0: no
[06:14] <mjbrooks> ant_: hahah  soon
[06:14] <sum0> toulouse: prolly driver, come back soon if you can
[06:14] <tunganet> eV_64: yes?
[06:15] <toulouse> roler: alienware
[06:15] <mjbrooks> ant_: hinge broke   I'm running it in two pieces as we speak    lol
[06:15] <eV_64> tab autocompletes
[06:15] <toulouse> sum0: ok, but it's worked bfore
[06:15] <toulouse> i dunno cya
[06:15] <toulouse> :)
[06:15] <ant_> mjbrooks : ha
[06:15] <tunganet> eV_64:  isnt there like "program$ files"
[06:15] <mjbrooks> ant_: I'm hunting for a replacement  but I have a cool idea now that you mentioned the "out the window" comment
[06:16] <dibblego> !wireless
[06:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:16] <eV_64>  '/media/winxp/Program Files'
[06:16] <eV_64>  '/media/winxp/Program Files'
[06:16] <ant_> mjbrooks : werent we talking about inittab yesterday?
[06:16] <eV_64> oops, sorry for the double paste
[06:16] <ant_> or was that someone else
[06:16] <mjbrooks> ant_: when I get a replacement I'm gonna go to starbucks when they are real busy
[06:16] <ant_> rofl
[06:16] <mjbrooks> ant_: scream goda%$^$ %$^ VISTA   and slam it on the floor
[06:17] <mjbrooks> ant_: yup  that was me
[06:17] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, does this help?  aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1 (Then CTL+ALT+Backspace)
[06:17] <ant_> i found out a way to boot to console :)
[06:17] <omeil> Wow i hate kubuntu desktop :D
[06:17] <bionic_seahorse> wolf: lemme check it out brb
[06:17] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, assuming you installed fglrx-control, that should work
[06:17] <eV_64> tunganet: cd '/media/winxp/Program Files' worked for me
[06:18] <logic_girl> i don't like kubuntu but i LOVE ubuntu =]
[06:18] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, OK
[06:18] <mjbrooks> ant_: what do you think of that for an idea?
[06:18] <tunganet> ev_64 my directory is in wine
[06:18] <eV_64> oo
[06:18] <locke> does/can anyone play lightside-legend ragnarok?
[06:18] <Wo|f> logic_girl, You and me both :)
[06:18] <omeil> logic_girl: yup yup same. i instlaled the kubuntu desktop and i hated every lil bit of it.
[06:18] <roler> i heard about alienware
[06:18] <eV_64> cd ~/.wine
[06:18] <roler> thanks
[06:18] <eV_64> is that it?
[06:18] <ant_> mjbrooks : i think you should throw the halves across the room like a frisby
[06:19] <Wo|f> <- Not a KDE "person"
[06:19] <punsad> How well will Ubuntu run on my thinkpad570e PIII 500MHz, 392MB RAM?  Can I expect it to be as quick as Windows in regards to surfing the web?
[06:19] <tunganet> eV_64: then i need to get into program files
[06:19] <tunganet> ev_64 which has a space in it
[06:19] <ant_> <- not a kde person
[06:19] <ed1t> which drivers for Intel 2915ABG wireless card?
[06:19] <mjbrooks> ant_: well  since it's already halved it should spead across the foor nicely
[06:19] <eV_64> you know it's case sensitive, right?
[06:19] <omeil> Whats Xubuntu like?
[06:19] <punsad> Or should I just run DSL, Puppy or something like that?
[06:19] <tunganet> eV_64: k let me try
[06:19] <mjbrooks> omeil: fast
[06:19] <eV_64> tunganet: ls to list files, type the first part of the word Program ie Prog then hit tab
[06:20] <omeil> mjbrooks: so its a light version of Ubuntu?
[06:20] <roler> oh, alienware is dell...
[06:20] <eV_64> tunganet: you're using cd ....... right?
[06:20] <mjbrooks> omeil: because it lacks all the overhead eyecandy
[06:20] <Wo|f> omeil, I kind of dug it. I ran it on an older 900 mHz ThinkPad for awhile
[06:20] <tunganet> eV_64: yes
[06:20] <warkro> anyone know how to edit the tap zones in the synaptics touchpad
[06:21] <tunganet> ev_ok i got it
[06:21] <tunganet> eV_64: ok i got it
[06:21] <mjbrooks> omeil: Gnome and KDE need more resources
[06:21] <omeil> ah yea :), i think i will stick with gnomey :D,say is planeshift any good?
[06:21] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, Any luck?
[06:21] <khaoshizon> hi, im running beryl and when i ran gnome-settings-daemon &, there was an alert whether i should use X or gnome settings. i clicked dont warn me again but accidentally clicked gnome settings instead of X. can anyone tell me how I could edit it to use X?
[06:22] <eV_64> tunganet: ok good, you can run nautilus as root, there's a link somewhere
[06:22] <mjbrooks> ant_: I'm just tickled by the idea of swearing at microsoft before smashing it in a busy venue
[06:22] <eV_64> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[06:22] <Wo|f> mjbrooks, Do it!
[06:22] <omeil> eV_64: nautilus as root is gksu nautilus
[06:22] <Joshooa> Can someone help me with this GParted error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11147/
[06:22] <mjbrooks> Wo|f: I"m plan to, gotta get a replacement first :/
[06:22] <eV_64> tunganet: nautilus as in your file browser in ubuntu
[06:22] <eV_64> i'm a noob too
[06:23] <tunganet> haha
[06:23] <khaoshizon> or at least for it to show the error message again?
[06:23] <eV_64> tunganet: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_browse_files.2Ffolders_as_root_user_in_Nautilus
[06:23] <bionic_seahorse> wolf: you getting my PM's?
[06:24] <omeil> tunganet: just type gksu nautilus in terminal
[06:24] <eV_64> you can do that and you get an option to have root access while browsing files, be careful though!
[06:24] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, Looks like /msg is disabled
[06:24] <Wo|f> :(
[06:24] <locke> khaoshizon: could you reinstall it?
[06:24] <ant_> i was still using enlightenment up until about a week ago
[06:24] <ant_> mjbrooks : still want to boot to console?
[06:24] <bionic_seahorse> aw crap :)
[06:24] <Wo|f> yeah
[06:24] <mjbrooks> until then literally have a cookie (in a wrapper mind you) holding my video cable down so the monitor doean't go all wonky
[06:24] <Wo|f> heh
[06:24] <eV_64> omeil: thanks, helps me too
[06:24] <omeil> hehe
[06:24] <eV_64> tunganet: also, you can type the first part of someone's username and hit tab to complete it, i noticed you misspelled mine
[06:24] <Chetwin> I can't get any help in the wine channel, anyone have any suggestions?
[06:24] <mjbrooks> ant_: I never wanted to boot to console, that was the other guy   ;)
[06:25] <ant_> mjbrooks : you need some good ole duct tape...
[06:25] <sum0> Chetwin: what's the issue?
[06:25] <tunganet> eV_64: yup sorry =]
[06:25] <khaoshizon> locke: i dont think that'll help since i screwed the option of gnome-settings-daemon, not beryl :/
[06:25] <eV_64> tunganet: no prob
[06:25] <Chetwin> I'm getting Render Creation Failure when I try to run a game
[06:25] <omeil> eV_64, didn't know that :D
[06:25] <Chetwin> I've been google-ing for hours
[06:25] <sum0> Chetwin: which game?
[06:25] <Chetwin> Bridge Commander
[06:25] <Chetwin> The wine database says it works fine
[06:25] <Chetwin> Only one other entry in the forum had this issue, never resolved
[06:26] <omeil> Did wine just release another update?
[06:26] <Chetwin> I copied the dir from my windows part
[06:26] <mjbrooks> ant_: any system recommendations? I'm open to thoughts
[06:26] <locke> lightside-legend ragnarok won't run in wine ;[
[06:26] <bionic_seahorse> wolf: ok... lemme summarize then...
[06:26] <bionic_seahorse> i've got a CRT on my left & an LCD on my right. i want to have two different resolutions (1280x1024 + 1680x1050), but all i'm getting right now is a cloned display, both with 1680x1050 resolutions
[06:26] <eV_64> the drag and drop in terminal helped me a lot at first, but i dont use it as much anymore
[06:26] <mjbrooks> ant_: or even unrecommendations
[06:26] <bionic_seahorse> needless to say, the CRT looks like ass at the moment
[06:27] <omeil> lol i got bug guts on my monitor :D
[06:27] <ant_> mjbrooks : imo dont get a laptop with ati video, go nvidia, and no broadcom wireless.
[06:27] <Chetwin> mjbrooks: I gave a 6 month old laptop to my lil bro cuz it was ati and broadcom
[06:27] <mjbrooks> ant_: on my list
[06:27] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, Gotcha. Give me a sec
[06:27] <Chetwin> mjbrooks: I bought a dell with nvidia and intel wireless works great
[06:28] <khaoshizon>  WARNING **: The system configuration changed - but we remain silent
[06:28] <khaoshizon> does anyone know whats the command so i can properly configure it again?
[06:28] <bionic_seahorse> wolf: sure thing... thx
[06:28] <eV_64> anyone have the link to the official guide for fglrx on edgy?, not the cchtml.com one
[06:28] <omeil> Chetwin: just saw a dell add apparently the new dell comps got a Nvidia 7 series geforce cards in them :)
[06:28] <sp0ro> !resolution
[06:28] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:28] <mjbrooks> Chetwin: I don't know if I want to go back with Dell    on the fence with that one
[06:28] <ant_> mjbrooks : i got a dell with all intel chipset... worked out of the box but wish i had an nvidia
[06:28] <Chetwin> omeil: that's what I have
[06:28] <ant_> mjbrooks : its kinda like a chevy ford thing
[06:28] <Chetwin> omeil 7300 go with 256 dedicated
[06:29] <omeil> Chetwin: thats pretty good i guess
[06:29] <ant_> mjbrooks : but for sure stay away from broadcom
[06:29] <mjbrooks> ant_: I've owned many Dells    heck this is a Dell right now
[06:29] <Chetwin> It rocks, if I could just get all my games to work
[06:29] <Chetwin> ARG
[06:29] <omeil> considering its dell selling the products :D much better than the crappy inteli cards
[06:29] <Chetwin> I even tried crossover office, no luck
[06:29] <bionic_seahorse> eV_64: i believe i can help you out on that one...
[06:29] <bionic_seahorse> one sec
[06:29] <lion_> hiall
[06:30] <sum0> Chetwin: honestly, that one's not well supported
[06:30] <eV_64> bionic_seahorse: thanks
[06:30] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, You have fglrx-control installed, right/
[06:30] <warkro> anyone else know how to edit tap zones for synaptics
[06:30] <bionic_seahorse> wolf: yup
[06:30] <Wo|f> OK
[06:30] <Chetwin> I know, but that's ghetto.
[06:30] <Chetwin> Thanks guys, I'm gonna keep trying
[06:30] <Wo|f> bear with me, cause I'm just going from the info in my shell after you just put in aticonfig
[06:30] <mjbrooks> ant_: It anoys me that they never tell you when the chip is broadcom  you have to hunt for that info
[06:30] <lion_> Anyone knows how to install Oracle 10g Enterprise Edition on Ubuntu Edgy
[06:31] <eV_64> bionic_seahorse: I think i found it, but thanks! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:31] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, I'd do this first aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1
[06:31] <Wo|f> That should take care of the cloning problem
[06:31] <omeil> Openoffice kinda sucks :(
[06:31] <eV_64> omeil: it takes a bit of getting used to
[06:31] <mjbrooks> ant_: I'm using a Belkin wireless card right now... beleive me, I know the ppain of Broadcom... thank God for ndiswrappers
[06:31] <sum0> lion_: tried this? http://www.supinfo-projects.com/en/2006/oracle_on_ubuntu/
[06:31] <omeil> Everytime i use a table and i save it and close it then open the file again the damn table disappears >.<
[06:32] <mjbrooks> ant_: and BTW _NEVER_ buy Belkin
[06:32] <bionic_seahorse> eV_64: yup that's the one
[06:32] <bionic_seahorse> you can also check out this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305665
[06:32] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse,  aticonfig --resolution=0, (then the resolutions for the primary display comma delimited)
[06:32] <ant_> mjbrooks : on my list ;)
[06:32] <bionic_seahorse> wolf: gotcha
[06:32] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, Now this is just a guess
[06:32] <eV_64> bionic_seahorse: it was hard to find because fglrx is nowhere in the url or title
[06:33] <ant_> i want a prism or a atheros
[06:33] <lion_> thanks, I'll try it
[06:33] <lion_> it
[06:33] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse,  aticonfig --resolution=1, (then the resolutions for the secondary display comma delimited)
[06:33] <eV_64> back to messing with mythtv
[06:33] <ant_> prism supports packet injection in monitor mode ;]
[06:33] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, Failing that, go into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and manually edit the resolutions ^_^
[06:33] <dustin> does anybody know where I can find a Hardware compatibility list for ubuntu systems
[06:34] <bionic_seahorse> wolf: been there, done that (about 100 times so far ;)
[06:34] <omeil> Damn that locate terminal command is handy :D
[06:34] <lion_> Ubuntu specified?
[06:34] <lion_> I think the hardware compatibility list should be first found in kernel-dev websites
[06:34] <sum0> dustin: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/
[06:34] <Joshooa> !hardware | dustin
[06:34] <ubotu> dustin: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:34] <eV_64> dustin: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:34] <bionic_seahorse> wolf: does it matter if i'm not getting direct rendering at the moment? should i get that fixed up before i try aticonfig?
[06:34] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, I got lucky that the system I have the dual head on has two identical LCD's
[06:34] <bhavi_bond> if i give gpg clearsign its tellling that code of conduct texe not found
[06:35] <eV_64> ha yup
[06:35] <ant_> omeil : you know to run updatedb before locate?
[06:35] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, DRI is a bit beyond my ken
[06:35] <Joshooa> whew that was close
[06:35] <eV_64> where's a list of the bot commands?
[06:35] <bhavi_bond> pls help
[06:35] <edited> can somebody help me install Intel 2915ABG wireless card?
[06:35] <omeil> ant_:updatedb?
[06:35] <Joshooa> Just !and whatever you want
[06:35] <Joshooa> !anything
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <Joshooa> ;)
[06:35] <bionic_seahorse> wolf: ya know what? i was leaning more towards two LCD's myself, but since I do a lot of design work, it helps to have one of each for color comparison, etc
[06:35] <ant_> omeil : update database i think, after installing/removing stuff
[06:36] <omeil> locate in terminal is to find a file yes?
[06:36] <bhavi_bond> hello
[06:36] <ant_> yes
[06:36] <sum0> omeil: yes, but not always current, to update the list run sudo updatedb
[06:36] <omeil> So i should update database?
[06:36] <ant_> omeil : just run sudo updatedb first, so locate is 'updated'
[06:36] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, I just pretty much do an install of the xorg-xserver-ati drivers and then fglrx-control and then run aticonfig with the changes I need to make when I set up a video card
[06:36] <omeil> oh okj
[06:36] <bhavi_bond> any answers pls its urgent
[06:36] <mytrueher1> is there any way to see a list of all mounted disks, and what directories they're mounted to?
[06:36] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, I gotcha. makes sense
[06:37] <lion_> what question?
[06:37] <omeil> Say has anyone installed starcraft and been capable of changing the Bnet server to a PVPGN server?
[06:37] <bionic_seahorse> wolf: which ATI card do you have installed? I've got an X1800XT, BTW
[06:37] <edited> can anybody help me install Intel 2915ABG wireless card?
[06:37] <lion_> StartCraft in Wine?
[06:38] <eV_64> http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi cool
[06:38] <eV_64> lion_: you're better off in the wine channel
[06:38] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, I've got an X1600 in this dual boot gaming rig I'm on
[06:38] <LordValuemart> Um yeah -.-' This may sound like a stupid question but can someone walk me through manually installing java on ubuntu 5.10??
[06:38] <ant_> !wifi | edited
[06:38] <ubotu> edited: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:38] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, ATI 9800 Pro in a little XPC hooked up to my TV
[06:38] <erichj> !java
[06:38] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:38] <bhavi_bond> hello
[06:38] <omeil> lion: starcraft is one of the games that runs quite good in wine..actually most blizzard games are extremely supported in wine
[06:39] <edited> ant_,  i tried that it doesnt work
[06:39] <bionic_seahorse> your card model gives me hope that i'll eventually get this piece of &^&*^ to work like i want it to
[06:39] <Wo|f> heh
[06:39] <Wo|f> good luck!
[06:39] <eV_64> !ubotu
[06:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:40] <lion_> er, I was answering somebody's another question, but not asking.
[06:40] <Wo|f> I'd be happy if I could figure out the issue I came in with. Heh.
[06:40] <Wo|f> What file would I edit to get the screen resolution for the login screen fixed? I installed fglrx-control and rebooted after. Now I can't see the bottom of the login page where the buttons and the hostname and time and date are
[06:40] <omeil> !dc
[06:40] <ubotu> dc: The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 56 kB, installed size 200 kB
[06:40] <ant_> edited : my intel2200 worked out of the box.. i thought the 2915 used the same drivers (ipw2200)
[06:40] <bhavi_bond> hello
[06:40] <Wo|f> I've been poking around in the system menu
[06:40] <omeil> IS there any good Direct connect clients?
[06:40] <sum0> Wo|f: lookin your xorg.conf for "virtual" and disable
[06:40] <omeil> dcgui kinda sucks
[06:40] <Wo|f> sum0, Gracias!
[06:40] <bionic_seahorse> wolf: what kind of dual-head setup do you have? is it mergedfb? xinerama? dual viewports?
[06:41] <edited> ant_,  how do i check if my wireless card is installed right?
[06:41] <ant_> iwconfig
[06:41] <bionic_seahorse> wolf: you're in luck... i just got that fixed a couple of hours ago
[06:41] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, None of those
[06:41] <eV_64> !windows | eV_64
[06:41] <druke> hello #ubuntu, is there a list of laptops which work perfect with ubuntu?
[06:41] <ardchoille> Wo|f: O did that by adding 'vga=791' (without quotes) to the end of the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:41] <Flannel> !hardware | druke
[06:41] <ubotu> druke: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:41] <edited> ant_, it says no wireless extensions
[06:41] <bhavi_bond> is there any body who can answr?
[06:41] <Wo|f> ardchoille, sweet, I'll try that also
[06:41] <Ademan> !dvd
[06:41] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:42] <edited> ant_, how do i install my wireless driver? i got ipw2200 downloaded
[06:42] <Wo|f> Ademan, check out Google and do a search for Ubuntu restricted as well
[06:42] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: your having a problem with gpg?
[06:43] <ant_> edited : it'll come with a README/INSTALL most likely.. like i said, mine worked out of the box
[06:43] <Ademan> Wo|f: yeah thanks, its actually just one dvd in particular that refuses to play, i'm not holding out too much hope, but i'm thinking maybe dma would hel
[06:43] <Ademan> help*
[06:43] <ded_> is there a way to speed up the ubuntu boot?
[06:43] <Ademan> !dma
[06:43] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[06:43] <locke> ubuntu boots quick for me o0;
[06:43] <Wo|f> Ademan, DMA is good ^_^
[06:43] <eV_64> uh oh, it's 6.10
[06:43] <ant_> edited : and i am not sure that the 2915 uses the same driver, but i recall reading that somewhere
[06:43] <ded_> i'm using fairly old hw
[06:43] <eV_64> unless it thinks we all use the lts
[06:44] <Joshooa> ded_: Google it, there's guides and can tell you things you can turn off
[06:44] <ardchoille> Ademan: That happened to me once, so I put that dvd into my set top box and it wouldn't play there either. Will this dvd play in a set top dvd player?
[06:44] <eV_64> feisty soon!!! :)
[06:44] <bhavi_bond> yes if i give gpg clearsign its saying that code of conduct no file exists i have downloaded it to my desktop
[06:44] <Joshooa> Yeah it'll be in time for my birthday
[06:44] <bionic_seahorse> wolf: there ya go:
[06:44] <bionic_seahorse> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2322726#post2322726
[06:44] <bionic_seahorse> hope that helps you out
[06:44] <Wo|f> bionic_seahorse, Nice, thanks!
[06:44] <ded_> Joshooa: thanks, i'll see what I can find
[06:44] <Ademan> ardchoille: it plays in my xbox, so i assume so, my set top box is broken actually
[06:45] <ardchoille> Ademan: Ah, ok. Just thinking it may be corrupted like mine was.
[06:45] <mjbrooks> code of conduct is the file?
[06:45] <Joshooa> ded_: NP hope it helps, I just loooked some up the other day
[06:45] <Wo|f> Gotta bounce, y'all take it easy
[06:45] <Ademan> that would be nice :-)
[06:45] <warlock> Hey guys, when doing a apt-get upgrade It wants to upgrade the kernel too, is there a way to not upgrade the kernel but everything else?
[06:45] <eV_64> how do i switch a window to the other workspace?
[06:45] <Ademan> later Wo|f
[06:45] <Wo|f> I'll be back to lurk another day
[06:45] <cyberfr0g> you tell me
[06:45] <sp0ro> !resolution
[06:45] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:45] <bionic_seahorse> wolf: u2 dude thanks for your help
[06:45] <Ademan> eV_64: drag it from either the window list, or from the pager to another desktop in the pager
[06:45] <warlock> Anyone? :(
[06:46] <LordValuemart> >.> Can someone PM me if they can actually walk me through the installation of java for ubuntu 5.10? I suck without a how to guide that I can talk to.
[06:46] <Wo|f> Ademan, Later bionic_seahorse, NP CYA!
[06:46] <lion_> how to build RAID-0 in Ubuntu?
[06:46] <eV_64> Ademan: thx
[06:46] <Ademan> LordValuemart: why the anchient ubuntu?
[06:46] <warlock> Does anyone know how to upgrade a specefic thing (such as gzip) and nothing else?
[06:47] <LordValuemart> Because I got it for free from a coworker
[06:47] <sum0> warlock: sudo aptitude upgrade gzip
[06:47] <Ademan> warlock: in synaptic you could just mark gzip for the upgrade.... i'm sure apt-get has something like that, check out man apt-get
[06:47] <warlock> well
[06:47] <warlock> sum0, can you join #warlock.blabla for a second?
[06:47] <GenNMX> warlock: sudo apt-get install gzip
[06:47] <bhavi_bond> hello
[06:47] <GenNMX> If there is a newer version, it will upgrade
[06:48] <ardchoille> LordValuemart: You are aware that you can download any Ubuntu release for free, right?
[06:48] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: you must have missed my question    "code of conduct" is the file?
[06:48] <warlock> GenNMX, well, I want to upgrade tons of stuff, not only 1 thing
[06:48] <ahave> looking for a link to guide me in mounting a NTFS partition that exists on a windows network
[06:48] <Ademan> !ntfs | ahave
[06:48] <ubotu> ahave: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:48] <bhavi_bond> yes
[06:49] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: and it's on your desktop?
[06:49] <bhavi_bond> yes
[06:49] <LordValuemart> Yes, I am x.x I only installed this one today, so I don't think installing a newer version would be any harder x.x I'll come back after I've done that...
[06:49] <ahave> ty Ademan
[06:49] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: then you need to specify the path to the file in you command
[06:50] <bhavi_bond> ex command pls
[06:50] <eV_64> I wonder how many people have paid for ubuntu...
[06:50] <bullgard4> Yesterday I removed the module 8139cp from the kernel by commanding 'modprobe -r -v 8139cp'. Today, after reboot, the module 3139cp is again in my kernel. How to remove it permanently?
[06:50] <Ademan> i dunno, if the money went to canonical i'd probably do it
[06:50] <Ademan> you know, pay 10 bucks for a cd or something...
[06:51] <ahave> is upgrading to 7.04 from edgy heavily involved?
[06:51] <bhavi_bond> example command pls
[06:51] <ahave> ie, will i have to start from scartch
[06:52] <somatt> hi, i have a blue and white g3 tray loading imac
[06:52] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: well on my system it would be 'gpg --clearsign /home/mjbrooks/Desktop/code\ of\ conduct'
[06:52] <somatt> and when i try to boot from ubuntu cd i get a folder icon with a ? in it
[06:52] <somatt> can anyone help me
[06:52] <eV_64> somatt: did you download the ppc version?
[06:53] <somatt> yes
[06:53] <bhavi_bond> mean the ubuntu coide of conduct
[06:53] <bullgard4> ahave: I do not know. I did it from scratch, I installed it completely new.
[06:53] <tom47> somehow i have no files showing on my Desktop .... how do i get back to shoing them again
[06:53] <eV_64> does macos start normally?
[06:53] <mneptok> somatt: how did you burn the .iso?
[06:53] <mjbrooks> somatt: should've bought the green and white one     ;)
[06:53] <mneptok> somatt: DiskUtility?
[06:54] <bhavi_bond> right?
[06:54] <fernandolima> hello
[06:54] <Paddy_EIRE> Hey guys could someone please help me get the Super/windows key working in ubuntu, I have the proper keyboard layout selected (uk, qwerty) although the key seems to do nothing? I have tried Keyboard preferences and although selecting any other option for alt, win key operation just produces errors
[06:54] <eV_64> somatt: diskutility should work
[06:54] <fernandolima> somebody can help me
[06:54] <mneptok> eV_64: it does not
[06:54] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: then on my system that would be 'gpg --clearsign /home/mjbrooks/Desktop/ubuntu\ code\ of\ conduct'
[06:54] <mneptok> eV_64: that's why i'm asking :)
[06:54] <tom47> !ask > fernandolima
[06:54] <ardchoille> fernandolima: We need to know what your problem is before we canhelp with it
[06:54] <bhavi_bond> thanks mate
[06:54] <eV_64> somatt: an iso is kind of like a zip file, when you burn it, your burner program opens the iso and puts the files in it on the disc
[06:55] <chuck`_> could one of you recommend an IRC client besides ircII/bitchx?  or at least a good GUI/frontend to the aforementioned clients?  i'd really like something that looks/feels a lot like mIRC, basically
[06:55] <Ademan> ahave: i wouldn't reccomend doing an upgrade, but it's possible to do without reformatting and installing, it can get messy though
[06:55] <eV_64> mneptok: is the ppc image a dmg?
[06:55] <Ademan> chuck`_: what's wrong with X-CHat?
[06:55] <mjbrooks> fernandolima: depends on what you need
[06:55] <mneptok> chuck`_: http://jirc.hick.org
[06:55] <mneptok> eV_64: no
[06:55] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: no problem
[06:55] <eV_64> chuck`_: i'm using irssi
[06:55] <mneptok> somatt: ?
[06:56] <yettenet> Hi... who can help me with crontab?
[06:56] <ardchoille> yettenet: I'm sure someone can try
[06:56] <fernandolima> I do not obtain to execute mysql
[06:56] <tom47> where is the setting to show items in ~/home/user/Desktop on the desktop
[06:56] <mjbrooks> not me, I'm on a re-beer break  ;)     brb
[06:56] <chuck`_> eV_64 : is it pretty and/or mIRC-ish?
[06:56] <yettenet> ardchoille: Would you want to be the one? :P
[06:57] <eV_64> chuck`_: it's all text based
[06:57] <chuck`_> eV_64 : -_-
[06:57] <ardchoille> tom47: /apps/nautilus/desktop
[06:57] <ardchoille> tom47: In the gconf-editor
[06:57] <ardchoille> yettenet: I can try
[06:57] <eV_64> chuck`_: xchat is fine though, install through synaptic or apt-get install xchat
[06:57] <chuck`_> xchat is fugly now
[06:57] <tom47> ardchoille i tried setting all that stuff on ....
[06:57] <eV_64> chuck`_: are there skins?
[06:58] <ahave> Ademan, so is 7.04 not a stable release yet? and 6.10 (Edgy) is?
[06:58] <bhavi_bond> file open error.. no such file
[06:58] <chuck`_> eV_64 : not sure, I was just confused why they removed the users list window and replaced it with a button
[06:58] <fernandolima> alguem fala portugues?
[06:58] <somatt> so disk utility to check the disk?
[06:58] <tom47> archoille will restart gdm
[06:58] <somatt> thx got to go bbl
[06:58] <tom47> brb
[06:58] <laac> hey guys... Isit here where I can ask questions regarding some issues with my wireless card and configuration?
[06:59] <ant_> !wifi | laac
[06:59] <ubotu> laac: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:59] <laac> thanks
[06:59] <eV_64> chuck`_: sorry but i gotta logout, may be back later, google is your friend :)
[07:00] <Ademan> ahave: correct, it will be released in april, but generally upgrading can be a royal pain in the butt
[07:00] <Ademan> i upgraded from dapper to edgy, everything got messed up
[07:00] <Ademan> some people have good experiences
[07:00] <Ademan> i didnt...
[07:00] <Ademan> and i know other people had similar troubles
[07:00] <bionic_seahorse> i certainly did
[07:00] <ahave> Ademan, so when the time does come to bump to 7.04... it will be a pain? or will the updater take care of it
[07:01] <bhavi_bond> hello
[07:01] <laac> exit
[07:01] <laac> quit
[07:01] <Daemonik> My friend wants to print over his LAN. The printer is hooked up to a Mac. Do Macs have their own printer sharing dealy going or is that stuff Samba. It if is Samba, how's he go about doing this?
[07:01] <Ademan> ahave: depends if you're lucky or not :-)   mine took care of it, but it left a huge mess
[07:02] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: save the file to your home directory, it's easier to find that way. Different window managers use different paths for their desktop
[07:02] <ant_> i prefer to download the livecd and test, then upgrade
[07:02] <linuxn00b> How do I recover a password for a fresh install?    I write down the login and PW everytime and every time I install with this cd I have this issue.
[07:03] <linuxn00b> A password and a login
[07:03] <bhavi_bond> same command?
[07:03] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: then you can just do a 'gpg --clearsign ~/ubuntu\ code\ of\ conduct'
[07:03] <Thinkpad_Guru> hey guys, I got an issue regarding dvd playback.  I've been at it for almost two months now.  I've tried installed libdvdcss2, vlc, ogle, and nothing will seem to play a dvd.  VLC just crashes when I select to open a dvd, and xine keeps telling me it can't decrypt the stream.  Anyone know what gives?
[07:03] <Ademan> how do i figure out which drive is my dvd drive?
[07:03] <Ademan> Thinkpad_Guru: have you tried another dvd?
[07:04] <bionic_seahorse> linuxn00b: isn't it l:ubuntu P:[blank] ?
[07:04] <Thinkpad_Guru> Ademan,  maybe one or two short of a dozen
[07:04] <Jabberman> Can anyone tell me how to schedual a task?
[07:04] <Ademan> Thinkpad_Guru: ouch, hrm, have you tried mplayer?
[07:04] <bhavi_bond> Same thiong
[07:04] <Thinkpad_Guru> Ademan yes
[07:04] <bhavi_bond> same thing
[07:04] <Jabberman> A timed task
[07:04] <Ademan> Thinkpad_Guru: i'm not really one to talk, i've got a dvd i can't play (but admittedly everything else works)
[07:05] <bhavi_bond> Shall i remove seahorse?
[07:05] <linuxn00b> bionic_seahorse That would be news to me.  In the install it asks for a user name and PW.
[07:05] <Ademan> Thinkpad_Guru: do you have all of the gstreamer codecs including ffmpeg and the ugly codecs?
[07:05] <Thinkpad_Guru> Ademan, same here, everything else is peachy
[07:05] <Paddy_EIRE> Hey guys could someone please help me get the Super/windows key working in ubuntu, I have the proper keyboard layout selected (uk, qwerty) although the key seems to do nothing? I have tried Keyboard preferences and although selecting any other option than "default" for alt + win key operation just produces errors
[07:05] <Thinkpad_Guru> Ademan Yes
[07:05] <Thinkpad_Guru> Ademan, ugly, multiverse, bad, everything
[07:06] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: your using seahorse?
[07:06] <Ademan> Thinkpad_Guru: geeze, i dunno what to tell you, i think there's a libdvdread3  but i think libdvdcss2 depends on it so you should have it
[07:06] <bhavi_bond> yes
[07:06] <Thinkpad_Guru> Ademan, before someone asks, yes it has a dvd-rom :)
[07:06] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: you failed to mention that   lol
[07:06] <Ademan> Thinkpad_Guru: good to cover all the bases :-)
[07:06] <Jabberman> Anyone?
[07:07] <Jabberman> Can anyone help me?
[07:07] <bhavi_bond> dint get you
[07:07] <ant_> !crontab | Jabberman
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crontab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <ant_> eek
[07:07] <mjbrooks> bav: the command I gave you was for the terminal     I don't know seahorse
[07:07] <Thinkpad_Guru> Ademan yes i have libdvdread3
[07:07] <Jabberman> crontab ?
[07:08] <Flannel> !cron
[07:08] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[07:08] <ant_> thx Flannel
[07:08] <Jabberman> Thanks
[07:08] <javacoder> How do I know what version of ubuntu I have?
[07:08] <linuxn00b> Anyone know how to recover user login and PW for a fresh install?
[07:08] <bhavi_bond> now what to do?
[07:09] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: did you move the file to your home directory?
[07:09] <ant_> linuxn00b : did you lose/forget your password?
[07:09] <bhavi_bond> yes
[07:09] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: open a terminal
[07:09] <bhavi_bond> yes
[07:09] <linuxn00b> ant_ Yes.
[07:09] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: and type
[07:10] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: gpg --clearsign ~/ubuntu\ code\ of\ conduct
[07:10] <anggarda> Hiello, all 930 ubuntuers, I've gotten myself a live cd. Problem is, its went to suspend on my notebook. How do I recover from it.
[07:10] <ant_> linuxn00b : if its just a fresh install i would suggest resinstalling
[07:11] <linuxn00b> ant_ : Actually, every time I use this install cd I have this problem. Even if I write it down and then explicity retype.  Says wrong user or PW.
[07:11] <ant_> linuxn00b : do you realize that linux is case sensitive?
[07:11] <linuxn00b> ant_ : Anyway to recover it as root (like from recovery mode?  which I'm logged into now).
[07:11] <anggarda> anyone? how do I recover from a suspend in ubuntu?
[07:11] <bhavi_bond> same thing Its ubuntyucode of conduct-1.01.txt
[07:11] <linuxn00b> ant_: I'm aware. ;)
[07:12] <bhavi_bond> ubuntu
[07:12] <PurpZeY> Once I install a package via add/remove, how can I actually run it, one of them appeared in my "applications" menu but another didn't...
[07:12] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: then that make a big difference
[07:12] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: type
[07:12] <ant_> linuxn00b : as far as i'm aware, no.. once you lose your pw you just cant login
[07:12] <GenNMX> anggarda: Have you tried hitting the spacebar on your keyboard? Or quickly hitting the power button?
[07:12] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: gpg --clearsign ~/ubuntucode\ of\ conduct-1.01.txt
[07:13] <linuxn00b> ant_: Then, since it's just a router I'll log as root.  and set a really decent pw.
[07:13] <ant_> linuxn00b : are you trying to login as root?
[07:13] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: in other words    gpg --clearsign ~/NAMEOFILEHERE
[07:13] <ant_> linuxn00b : root is disabled by default in ubuntu
[07:14] <linuxn00b> ant_: No, I -am- logged in as root from recovery mode.  I was trying to find my user name and such from shadow or passwd files.
[07:14] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: it can't find the file if you give it the wrong name
[07:15] <linuxn00b> ant_: But because reinstalling always leaves me with the same exact issues (cd defect?), I'll just enable root outside of recovery and use that.  It's a box I'm building into a router.
[07:15] <goofey> X won't start because it can't load (find) /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-386/volatile/nvidia.ko and I'm using the new legacy nvidia drivers - any ideas?
[07:15] <PurpZeY> How can I launch Wine once I install the package?
[07:15] <ant_> linuxn00b : have you checked the checksum of the cd?
[07:16] <Whebeft-bed> does ubuntu support ASUS P5SD2-X  the SIS656 Chipset
[07:16] <bhavi_bond> done..  now?
[07:16] <goofey> any way to find out which package is supposed to provide nvidia.ko?
[07:16] <linuxn00b> ant_: No, I haven't
[07:16] <GigaClon> whats the format command?
[07:17] <ant_> linuxn00b : are you using a livecd?
[07:17] <XP> goofey: nvidia-glx
[07:17] <mjbrooks> PurpZeY: wine PATHTOPROGRAM
[07:17] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: you run that?
[07:17] <javacoder> are there any problems with upgrading to Edgy lately?
[07:17] <linuxn00b> ant_: No, alt_install cd.
[07:17] <bhavi_bond> yes
[07:17] <goofey> XP: ok - but I reinstalled nvidia-glx-legacy....
[07:18] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: no error?
[07:18] <XP> goofey: what card do u have?
[07:18] <chuck`_> who recommended jIRCii to me before? mneptok I believe?
[07:18] <javacoder> gaim chuck`_
[07:18] <goofey> XP: geforce 4 420 go
[07:18] <linuxn00b> Is there a way to tell Ubuntu to -never- run xserver unless explicitly asked to do so?
[07:19] <goofey> linuxn00b: you could remove it form the default runlevel
[07:19] <Elive_user92> hey which one is better: gnome BAKER or BRASERO ?
[07:19] <goofey> linuxn00b: er, from
[07:19] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: If it didn't complain then it should be signed
[07:19] <XP> goodkiwiboy: yeah, i think u need the legacy driver?
[07:19] <bhavi_bond> done thanks again
[07:19] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: no problem
[07:20] <Pollywog> linuxn00b: I have done that by removing the startup links
[07:20] <bhavi_bond> How can i contribute packages?
[07:20] <ant_> linuxn00b : sudo update-rc.d gdm -f remove to keep x from starting
[07:20] <linuxn00b> goofey: I'd still be able to start it up when I wanted it though?
[07:20] <Pollywog> what ant said
[07:20] <bionic_seahorse> anybody with an ATI dual-head setup have some free time on their hands? Trying to get a resolution-independent setup going... I'm close to getting it fixed too... I can feel it!
[07:20] <GigaClon> can mkfs be used to format a miniSD card to FAT16?
[07:20] <PurpZeY> Where does LiveCD Store data, e.g. installed programs, and preferences?
[07:20] <ant_> linuxn00b : sudo update-rc.d gdm -f remove
[07:20] <bionic_seahorse> of course i said that same thing 2 days ago... :)
[07:20] <goodkiwiboy> xp ?
[07:20] <goofey> linuxn00b: yep
[07:21] <XP> goodkiwiboy: wrong person sorry
[07:21] <XP> that was mean for goofey
[07:21] <XP> lol
[07:21] <ardchoille> PurpZeY: The things you change in a livecd are held in ram
[07:21] <XP> i didn't notice i made that mistake
[07:21] <goodkiwiboy> hehe no worries
[07:21] <PurpZeY> ardchoille: so they will clear when I reboot?
[07:21] <ardchoille> PurpZeY: yep
[07:21] <Pollywog> linuxn00b you could start it with /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:21] <bhavi_bond> How can i contribute packages?
[07:21] <Pollywog> but gdm would not start on boot
[07:21] <Elive_user92> u suck people
[07:22] <ardchoille> bhavi_bond: Try asking in #ubuntu-motu
[07:22] <goofey> XP: pretty sure the card requires legacy if i go 1.0.97
[07:22] <XP> yeah
[07:22] <XP> it does
[07:22] <Elive_user92> fuckin ubuntu boys !!
[07:22] <XP> so you're correct
[07:22] <XP> install legacy
[07:22] <Pollywog> go to #troll
[07:22] <XP> Elive_user92: wassssssssssuuupp
[07:22] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/developerzone
[07:22] <XP> !ohmy
[07:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:22] <linuxn00b> thanks ant, pollywog, goofey and others. ;)
[07:23] <Pollywog> yw
[07:23] <Elive_user92> sorry
[07:23] <Whebeft-bed> does ubuntu support ASUS P5SD2-X  the SIS656 Chipset
[07:23] <XP> !troll
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <XP> ~_~
[07:23] <Elive_user92> sorry mother fucker i ve understood !!!
[07:23] <linuxn00b> boot
[07:23] <mjbrooks> !op
[07:23] <PurpZeY> What are the risks associated with creating a partition for Ubuntu on a win drive?
[07:23] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[07:23] <ardchoille> !ops | Elive_user92
[07:23] <ubotu> Elive_user92: please see above
[07:23] <linuxn00b> Err, kick.
[07:24] <javacoder> PurpZeY: you could loose all your windows data
[07:24] <PurpZeY> java: is that likely?
[07:24] <javacoder> sometimes, I have seen it
[07:24] <javacoder> back up back up...
[07:25] <mjbrooks> PurpZeY: always make a backup before doing major things like moving partitions around
[07:25] <javacoder> doesn't hurt to take an hour and back up your stuff
[07:25] <PurpZeY> If I back up can I create a bootable image, so the restore would be full?
[07:25] <ant_> i never have anything worth backing up :(
[07:25] <mjbrooks> ant_: lol
[07:26] <goofey> XP: aha - i hade to reinstall *both* versions of the linux-restricted-modules....
[07:26] <XP> haha
[07:26] <XP> i @@
[07:26] <mjbrooks> ant_: /var/mail/spool/ant/spam
[07:27] <goofey> XP: weird, but glad it works
[07:27] <goofey> brb
[07:27] <ant_> mjbrooks : ha
[07:27] <mjbrooks> ant_: it would prbably take several tapes though
[07:28] <bionic_seahorse> anybody willing to help out an ATI user w/a dual-config nightma-- err... issue?
[07:29] <mjbrooks> bionic_seahorse: way to sell it ;)
[07:29] <mjbrooks> bionic_seahorse: you might find #ati to be better suited though
[07:29] <bionic_seahorse> doing my best bro... guess nobody's buying today ;)
[07:30] <|Amon|> where is the apt conf file so i can change the default repositories ?
[07:30] <bionic_seahorse> thanks for the tip... will try it out
[07:30] <mjbrooks> bionic_seahorse: gl
[07:31] <ant_> |Amon| : /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:31] <sum0> warlock: still there?
[07:31] <|Amon|> thx ant_
[07:31] <ant_> np
[07:33] <Khaos> hello, i tried searching the forums and google for instructions on being able to show warning messages again for edgy ie. "Don't ask me again" setting because i really need to activate it again but i couldnt find anything
[07:33] <ant_> mjbrooks : i think the time of attack would be the most important
[07:33] <mjbrooks> ant_: definately
[07:34] <mjbrooks> ant_: a nice busy afternoon round lunch time in the city
[07:34] <mjbrooks> ant_:  what do you think... financial district best?
[07:35] <ant_> mjbrooks : i think so
[07:35] <mjbrooks> ant_: heheh   this is gonna rock
[07:35] <ant_> mjbrooks : put it on youtube
[07:35] <mjbrooks> ant_: I should get it on video and post it to youtube
[07:35] <mtar> anyone develop with mono
[07:35] <mjbrooks> ant_: hahahah
[07:35] <ant_> lol
[07:36] <mjbrooks> ant_: evil minds think alike
[07:36] <inv> duh
[07:36] <ant_> mjbrooks : that they do...
[07:36] <inv> ubuntu smells :x
[07:36] <mjbrooks> mtar: I had a friend develop mono once...   she was in bed for weeks      oh, you mean THAT Mono
[07:37] <mtar> heh ;)
[07:38] <Khaos> anyone?
[07:38] <mjbrooks> inv: it's the human brown tricking your senses...    but I'd rather have smells than the bad tast in my mouth that MS gives me
[07:38] <mtar> would be nice if youtube didn't suck for reading text
[07:39] <ant_> Khaos : what warning you talking about?
[07:40] <mjbrooks> ant_:  UAC     bwahahahaha
[07:41] <laptop> how can i add a keyboard that is french;;;  and   how can i add an lcd monitor to my laptop
[07:41] <Khaos> the thing is, i had beryl running and i ran gnone-settings-daemon & a message appeared and told me that my X is different and prompted me to use either the new X or Gnome settings. it ran well with X so i configured it to poen on startup. when i was in the same message again and ticked "Don't show this again" but accidentally misclicked Gnome so now i just need to get that warning message to work again
[07:41] <laptop> dual monitor
[07:42] <laptop> ??
[07:42] <mjbrooks> laptop: I'd plug the keyboard in and the dip it in butter, but that more french canadian   lol
[07:42] <laptop> lol
[07:43] <Whebeft-bed> does ubuntu support ASUS P5SD2-X  the SIS656 Chipse
[07:43] <mjbrooks> Whebeft-bed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:43] <javacoder> actually canadians use fresh Maple surup
[07:44] <mjbrooks> javacoder: canadian Maple Syrup is yucky.... Vermont is the best ;)
[07:44] <javacoder> ahh but I can't get that because of export restrictions
[07:45] <mjbrooks> javacoder: you in canada?
[07:45] <javacoder> yup
[07:45] <javacoder> eh?
[07:45] <mjbrooks> lol
[07:45] <|Amon|> okay i've messed around with linux for a while on the server before and this is the first time that i've actually given a whirl on the desktop... but if i have a fat32 partition for sharing between xp and ubuntu, how do i get it to mount it automatically ? fstab ?
[07:45] <mjbrooks> they restrict syrup?  sad
[07:45] <XP> yes
[07:45] <XP> u can mount it using fstab
[07:46] <|Amon|> i created a folder called /mnt/fat32...
[07:46] <|Amon|> what permissions should i give it?
[07:46] <detectiveinspekt> Java crashed firefox as my report was due
[07:46] <|Amon|> 777?
[07:46] <|Amon|> fat32 is at /dev/hda4
[07:47] <mjbrooks> |Amon|: you the only one using it?
[07:47] <detectiveinspekt> |Amon|, if you want
[07:47] <|Amon|> yes
[07:47] <|Amon|> mjbrooks,
[07:47] <mjbrooks> then that's fine
[07:47] <javacoder> not much to choose from here
[07:47] <cableroy> i'm trying to exclude adimage.php from modsecurity, i did as the other excluded files in exclude.conf but it won't work, suggestions?
[07:47] <Naomarik> anyone know if there's a console based audio control ?
[07:47] <rm_you> alsamixer?
[07:47] <Naomarik> ahhha!
[07:48] <ant_> its a good one at that.
[07:48] <Naomarik> ok but it uses an ncurses gui... is there something i can use a script to pass a command to?
[07:49] <|Amon|> i installed software firewalls on my nix dedicated servers before but should i have as software firewall even tho im behind a hardware one for ubuntu or no?
[07:49] <Naomarik> i'm trying to get my FN keys to work and would be nice if i can have like one key press lower audio by 10% or so
[07:49] <rm_you> Naomarik: install alsa-tools and then use alsactrl
[07:49] <rm_you> that
[07:49] <Naomarik> alright
[07:49] <rm_you> that's what you want
[07:50] <rm_you> err, alsactl
[07:50] <Flannel> Naomarik: mpd?
[07:50] <|Amon|> what i rly want is something that makes iptables easier... ill learn it eventually tho
[07:50] <rm_you> ACK! no sorry wrong program
[07:50] <rm_you> amixer
[07:50] <ant_> |Amon| : firestarter
[07:50] <chuck`_> why can't I create a launcher on my desktop to execute a .jar archive?  when I double-click the launcher, it doesn't do anything besides sit idly.  but when I execute the archive in terminal, it works fine.
[07:50] <Flannel> !firestarter | |Amon|
[07:50] <ubotu> |Amon|: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:50] <rm_you> still in the alsa-tools package tho
[07:50] <|Amon|> heh ya
[07:50] <Naomarik> i'll try what rm_you said
[07:51] <Paddy_EIRE> could someone help me create a .deb out of this package http://qflash.sourceforge.net/webpage/
[07:51] <billy> Greetings fellow earth_creatures.
[07:52] <ant_> sup
[07:52] <technomancy> how do you restart network manager?
[07:52] <javacoder> chuck`_:  I would recommend creating a .sh file that has java -jar **.jar in it and launch that from the desktop
[07:52] <chuck`_> javacoder: just that one line in the script?
[07:52] <javacoder> Greetings billy
[07:52] <billy> aw now
[07:52] <billy> Howdy javacoder.
[07:52] <technomancy> or... how do you remind network manager that, yes, you *do* have a wifi card
[07:52] <SilentDis> i'm just visiting.  I don't originate from this dirtball :D
[07:53] <javacoder> sure thing but replace the * with your jar file
[07:53] <SilentDis> Tarn Vedra here.  *wonders if any will get the refrence*
[07:53] <STEFAN> #skopje
[07:53] <chuck`_> javacoder: of course. :]   when I double click the script it just opens in gedit, however
[07:54] <|Amon|> billy, how's the weather
[07:54] <technomancy> gah... freaking useless
[07:54] <javacoder> right, you need to go to a terminal and type chmod 755 **.sh
[07:54] <perlcoder> javacoder: print JAVACODER "Let's fight!\n";
[07:54] <perlcoder> lol
[07:54] <billy> |Amon|: it's gonna kill us all.
[07:54] <javacoder> ?
[07:54] <perlcoder> hahah
[07:54] <billy> (according to Al.)
[07:54] <javacoder> eh?
[07:55] <|Amon|> meh who listens to the great one who invented the internet.
[07:55] <perlcoder> |Amon|: Al Gore??
[07:55] <|Amon|> ;]
[07:56] <rickyfingers> ok everyone just got beryl working on edgy with nvidia
[07:56] <javacoder> did you get that chuck`?
[07:56] <SilentDis> rickyfingers: grats!
[07:56] <Naomarik> grats
[07:56] <billy> rickyfingers: good job.
[07:56] <SilentDis> rickyfingers: welcome to the wonderful world of wobbly windows and resource wasting for fun!  lol
[07:56] <rickyfingers> beyrl is very cool, but let me correct some misinformation I got in this room last night
[07:56] <jawzor> do a beryl roll
[07:57] <Naomarik> hah
[07:57] <rickyfingers> somebody told me that beyrl worked fine with two monitors
[07:57] <billy> rickyfingers: do tell ..
[07:57] <javacoder> chuck`_:  you have to make it executable with chmod 755 **.sh
[07:57] <ant_> from what i hear it barely works with one.
[07:57] <rickyfingers> that is absolutely not true, I'm not angry about it or anything, I just think people should know
[07:57] <mjbrooks> rickyfingers: it does as long as you have a nuclear reactor to power your video cards
[07:57] <chuck`_> javacoder: aye i always forget to change modes
[07:58] <SilentDis> rickyfingers: yeah... while possible, so long as both vid cards support it... it's really a pain to setup from my understanding.
[07:58] <rickyfingers> LOL it doesn't work at all with xinerama, and it kind of works with twinview
[07:58] <javacoder> chuck`_:  used to making .bat files?
[07:58] <freeblizz12134> hello
[07:58] <billy> !hi | freeblizz12134
[07:58] <ubotu> freeblizz12134: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:58] <freeblizz12134> i am preety nw in linunx(ubuntu)
[07:58] <chuck`_> chuck`_: used to compiling/linking :]
[07:59] <chuck`_> javacoder^
[07:59] <rickyfingers> I have a dual monitor setup that I've been using for months, and I may do some research for getting beryl working with both...anyone here got it working for real?
[07:59] <billy> freeblizz12134: how do you like it so far?
[07:59] <ant_> why in the world does everyone go through all that trouble, what does beryl that is so great?
[07:59] <freeblizz12134> very much
[07:59] <ant_> ^do
[07:59] <freeblizz12134> is nice
[07:59] <SilentDis> freeblizz12134: welcome to freedom, enjoy your stay, invite your friends :D
[07:59] <freeblizz12134> k
[07:59] <chuck`_> javacoder: It's still not executing the jar file as far as i can tell. clearly the script is performing some sort of work for a few files, but the GUI program i'm trying to run in the jar archive isn't showing
[07:59] <rickyfingers> ant_: I haven't used mac OSX in a while, but it has a lot of the same kind of gee whiz affects that OSX had when I used it last
[07:59] <chuck`_> files=cycles
[07:59] <billy> freeblizz12134: that's awesome.  did you make the switch from 'doze?
[07:59] <chuck`_> I can't type tonight
[08:00] <rickyfingers> ant_: the kind of stuff that you can show your friends and they'll be like, "...wow it's the computer of the future..."
[08:00] <mjbrooks> SilentDis: and gove your MS Taxed copy of windows to your enemies?  lol
[08:00] <SilentDis> ant_: beryl is pretty fluff.  while the cube is semi useful for multi desktop switching, it's just pretty pretty :)
[08:00] <freeblizz12134> sory
[08:00] <rickyfingers> ant_: at least those friends of yours that would be impressed by stuff like eye-candy anyway.
[08:00] <|Amon|> rickyfingers, you can actually run osx on non-apple intel hardware now
[08:00] <freeblizz12134> what is doze ?
[08:00] <billy> win doze
[08:00] <|Amon|> someone patched osx so that it would run on machines without the apple specific bios...
[08:00] <freeblizz12134> aa
[08:01] <freeblizz12134> :)
[08:01] <freeblizz12134> is
[08:01] <ant_> why not use another flashy wm
[08:01] <freeblizz12134> yes
[08:01] <SilentDis> mjbrooks: I wouldn't wish that bloat upon my enemies.  I prefer them semi coherent so they're more fun to argue with ;)
[08:01] <billy> |Amon|: i get a sick feeling when I go to snatch it.  terrible conscience over here.
[08:01] <|Amon|> your cpu has to be able to handle at least sse2 though and sse3 for roseta too
[08:01] <mjbrooks> use E
[08:01] <rickyfingers> |Amon|: that's cool and all, but to do this legally...one would still have to shell out $$$ for a copy of OSX and all the other apps one would want to run, right?
[08:01] <|Amon|> rickyfingers, it is legal
[08:01] <|Amon|> since it's based off darwin
[08:02] <|Amon|> but ya you would have to pay for osx
[08:02] <billy> rickyfingers: the Apple folks claim that ANY installation on a nonApple machine is a violation of the EULA.
[08:02] <|Amon|> billy, not true... they have some developers edition or something they sell
[08:02] <|Amon|> that runs on non-apple hw
[08:02] <|Amon|> but for the basic os prob right
[08:03] <billy> |Amon|: besides, the torrent was going to take like a day to download.  :-)
[08:03] <SilentDis> billy: and nintendo and sony claim that importing PS/gamecubes from japan to play japanese games is illegal too :)
[08:03] <|Amon|> billy, i dowloaded it in ~4 hrs
[08:04] <|Amon|> ;p
[08:04] <|Amon|> downloaded
[08:04] <billy> |Amon|: don't tell me that!
[08:04] <|Amon|> nothing illegal
[08:04] <|Amon|> i only use bittorrent to download open-source software.
[08:04] <|Amon|> ;]
[08:05] <|Amon|> SilentDis, would they be happier if i downloaded ps2 roms from a bt tracker?
[08:05] <|Amon|> theyre not specifically coming from japan then ... ;]
[08:05] <macd> this should prolly goto #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:05] <ant_> lol
[08:06] <SilentDis> |Amon|: my point, exactly, really.  and yes, I'll join offtopic myself to continue this :)
[08:06] <ant_> the whole last hour should've been in offtopic lol
[08:06] <rickyfingers> well everyone, I have to go get ready for work...this channel is bad for my work ethic!!!
[08:06] <macd> yeah just noone was looking ;)
[08:06] <billy> yeah, where the newbs with problems been?
[08:06] <macd> sleeping like good end users do at night.
[08:07] <mtar> what ide do you guys use to develop with
[08:07] <|Amon|> billy, i dont have a prob yet
[08:07] <billy> |Amon|: me neither.  :)
[08:07] <|Amon|> but you can tell me how to edit fstab so that my fat32 partition mounts when i boot into ubuntu.
[08:07] <|Amon|> ;p
[08:07] <mjbrooks> I hate it when I do that
[08:07] <giskardd> seems like my windoze wireless driver only works with ndiswrapper 1.13 to 1.24, i need a walkthrough on how to install ndiswrapper 1.24, with or without synaptic, because i can't access the web repositories
[08:08] <mjbrooks> |Amon|: where is your mount point?
[08:08] <|Amon|> /dev/hda4
[08:09] <|Amon|> and destination is /mnt/fat32
[08:09] <SilentDis> |Amon|: /dev/hda4 /mnt/fat32 vfat defaults,user,rw 0 0
[08:09] <|Amon|> thx
[08:10] <billy> |Amon|:  see?  all you had to do was ask.  :-)
[08:10] <SilentDis> |Amon|: it'll be available immediately, and should mount at next boot.  you can mount it NOW as a user with:  mount /mnt/fat32
[08:10] <rm_you> |Amon|: If you look in /etc/mtab it will show you what the line looks like for anything you have mounted.... so if you mount a filesystem how you want it and want to save it for your next reboot, just copy the line from /etc/mtab to /etc/fstab :P
[08:10] <|Amon|> damn nix is like riding a bicycle... was just trying to think of the name of the pgrm i ran that let me see all im running and top hit me
[08:10] <|Amon|> i didnt realize how much i missed linux
[08:10] <|Amon|> rm_you, thx
[08:11] <SilentDis> rm_you: thanks on that one myself.  learn something new every day :)
[08:11] <rm_you> :)
[08:11] <|Amon|> SilentDis, ya i was running mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/fat32 all the time which got annoyng...
[08:11] <SilentDis> }
[08:12] <|Amon|> kill -9 pid to kill a process right?
[08:12] <SeyToN> !wifi
[08:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:12] <SilentDis> |Amon|: heh, i have a netdrive that can't be mounted in fstab because of when it's driver loaded.  I used basically the same line, with a noauto option, and have a simple script called when kde loads to mount it for me :)
[08:12] <ant_> |Amon| : try a kill -15 for a less violent kill
[08:13] <|Amon|> eh
[08:13] <|Amon|> whats the diff
[08:13] <rm_you> but... kill -9 is so bloody and deliciously effective :P
[08:13] <Adlai> |Amon|: just try kill without a signal specified
[08:13] <Adlai> |Amon|: it gives the process a chance to clean up
[08:13] <|Amon|> ah okay
[08:14] <SilentDis> |Amon|: or, if you know the name rather than the PID, 'killall processname'
[08:14] <mjbrooks> personally I don't even bother looking in mtab, I just grep it for the device I want and pipe it to fstab
[08:14] <rm_you> generally when i'm at the point where i'm using kill to make a process die, nothing but 9 will do anything >_>
[08:14] <mjbrooks> rm_you: love 9!
[08:15] <SilentDis> !htop | |Amon| check this tool out, might be what you're looking for, for easy process management
[08:15] <ubotu> |amon| check this tool out, might be what you're looking for, for easy process management: htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-1 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 172 kB
[08:15] <rm_you> I also enjoy reaping orphans in my spare time :P
[08:16] <enderxim> Are there repos to get some newer apps than edgy or feisty have? Like sidux, or debian sid, etc?
[08:16] <SilentDis> !backports | enderxim
[08:16] <MaartenLx> Hmm.... anyone know why a background I chose earlier in KDE sticks and cannot be changed anymore? Whatever I try, it keeps showing the same wallpaper.... ;)
[08:16] <ubotu> enderxim: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:16] <MaartenLx> Good thing its not an ugly one :P
[08:16] <|Amon|> mjbrooks, rw is read+write permissions right
[08:16] <enderxim> SilentDis: Thanks
[08:16] <mjbrooks> |Amon|: yes
[08:16] <|Amon|> k
[08:17] <ant_> i just noticed my shoes were still on, you guys are starting to get boring.
[08:17] <mjbrooks> ant_: bwahahaha
[08:17] <ant_> i'm about to have to sudo sleep -h now
[08:17] <SilentDis> ant_: my apologies.  I will go break something and come back asking for a fix. :D
[08:17] <|Amon|> ant_, : kill -9 an
[08:17] <|Amon|> ant_*
[08:17] <|Amon|> ;-\
[08:17] <ant_> lol
[08:17] <SilentDis> sudo make me a sandwich
[08:17] <mjbrooks> ant_: rm -rf /home/ant
[08:18] <Episcopus> i am trying to install beryl on a system with an nvidia card, but i am having trouble when i try to install the nvidia driver
[08:18] <|Amon|> how do u get the name of a proc from the pid
[08:18] <mjbrooks> ant_: there should be a beryl channel
[08:18] <Episcopus> can i get help here?
[08:19] <|Amon|> ack, i said 'u'
[08:19] <|Amon|> need to quit talking to my gf on aim
[08:19] <ant_> i thought there was.
[08:19] <bz0b> hey all
[08:19] <|Amon|> or is that possible?
[08:19] <Episcopus> found the beryl channel, thanks
[08:19] <mjbrooks> Episcopus: #nvidia might be a better place for nvidia specific problems
[08:19] <SilentDis> Episcopus: what version fo ubuntu?
[08:20] <Episcopus> edgy
[08:20] <SilentDis> !envy | Episcopus
[08:20] <ubotu> Episcopus: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[08:20] <mkquist> hey anyone know if the alternate installer disk is any diff than the gui one? other that the interface?
[08:20] <pierc1> does anyone know if there is a repository somewhere that has stuff like hydra and metasploit etc?
[08:20] <SilentDis> Episcopus: envy just does it all for you :)
[08:20] <ant_> gotta love that envy
[08:20] <bz0b> hey do i get transparency in all of the windows like how you can choose it as an option in the terminal
[08:20] <mjbrooks> envy envy
[08:20] <Episcopus> SilentDis: i will check that out
[08:21] <SilentDis> mkquist: alternate CD requries a lot less resources to run, and provides only a text-based install, no 'try before installing'.
[08:21] <ant_> bz0b : gotta use aterm or eterm
[08:21] <mjbrooks> ant_: I enjoy it when I get the chance to tell someone to do a man man
[08:21] <bz0b> ant_, do i just apt get it?
[08:21] <SilentDis> ant_: it's truely a work of art imo :)
[08:21] <|Amon|> bz0b, not all programs support transparency
[08:21] <ant_> lol
[08:22] <giskardd> does ndiswrapper require any other dependencies to be installed?
[08:22] <bz0b> like for instance my home
[08:22] <mjbrooks> ant_: people get flustered
[08:22] <bz0b> nautilus
[08:22] <|Amon|> aterm -tr to make it transparent
[08:22] <billy> Is it normal for everybody and their brother to be hitting your Bittorrent port when you're not running a torrent program?
[08:22] <giskardd> i get dozens of errors with sudo make ndiswrapper
[08:22] <SilentDis> bz0b: beryl lets you make any/all windows transparent on the fly, or through specifying them.... is that what you're looking to do, or were you looking for something in metacity/kde directly?
[08:22] <mjbrooks> billy: were you recent;y running a torrent program?
[08:22] <mkquist> silentdis - is it any more effective say maybe on an older system?
[08:22] <billy> mjbrooks: yeah, yesterday.
[08:22] <mkquist> silendis - or just not as pretty...
[08:22] <bz0b> SilentDis, yes
[08:23] <bz0b> SilentDis, where can I find this program?
[08:23] <|Amon|> billy, no. wear protection
[08:23] <ant_> i wouldnt suggest beryl :X
[08:23] <SilentDis> billy: if you have a bittorrent client going before offering something, you might be caught in a meta cache.  it'll clear up in a while...  that's the only advice I have though
[08:23] <bz0b> ant_, what would you suggest?
[08:23] <billy> |Amon|: don't worry.  that port's stealthed now.
[08:23] <mjbrooks> billy: they might still think you are part of it
[08:23] <|Amon|> billy, invisible?
[08:23] <yeti> Hi there... anyone got an idea why won't commands run from my crontab?
[08:23] <|Amon|> :p
[08:23] <chuck`_> Anyone have any suggestions as to why I can't execute the command java -jar file.jar in a program launcher or a bash script? It works fine from a terminal window, but I don't want to keep the terminal window open just to keep this GUI program running, halp :<
[08:24] <billy> |Amon|: word.  no error packets returned.
[08:24] <ant_> beryl can be hard to get working is all
[08:24] <SilentDis> bz0b: were you looking for help/info on beryl?
[08:24] <bz0b> SilentDis, yes please
[08:24] <SilentDis> !beryl | bz0b
[08:24] <ubotu> bz0b: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:24] <billy> SilentDis: makes sense.  I was seeding the herd5 yesterday.
[08:24] <|Amon|> so is there *any* way to find out the name of a proc with just the PID?
[08:24] <SilentDis> mkquist: I used the alt-install cd for xubuntu on my laptop, it has all of 64mb ram, works great :)
[08:24] <ant_> ps gives both
[08:24] <mjbrooks> chuck`_: you might have to specify the full path to your java executable
[08:25] <pierc1> |Amon|:    ps aux | grep <pid>
[08:25] <SilentDis> |Amon|: if you have the PID... ps -A | grep -i <pid>
[08:25] <ant_> ps -e shows every process no?
[08:25] <|Amon|> pierc1, ah yea forgot that command...
[08:25] <mkquist> silendis - any probs w/the toolbars yet?
[08:26] <|Amon|> do nix commands come back if its been like 3 years since you've messed with it
[08:26] <|Amon|> i used to be not too bad with it...
[08:26] <SilentDis> mkquist: huh?
[08:26] <pierc1> like typing on a bicycle
[08:26] <|Amon|> hope so
[08:26] <chuck`_> mjbrooks: that worked, but the terminal window stays open. I tried putting & at the end of the line to run it in the background but then the terminal window opens then closes, and the Java executable never runs
[08:26] <mkquist> silentdis - youll see...hehe
[08:26] <SilentDis> pierc1: lol odd anaology :)
[08:27] <mkquist> silentdis - other than that xubuntu is great, nice and quick - i like the way the toolbars can be configured
[08:27] <MM2> How to find out bad sectors on HD and set ubuntu to ignore them?
[08:27] <SilentDis> mkquist: yeah.  breathed new life into my crappy little lappy :)
[08:28] <mjbrooks> chuck`_: the program lauched and the terminal stays open?
[08:28] <mkquist> silendis - just dont trip when if ur toolbars dissapear... easy fix
[08:28] <yeti> ardchoille: Are you here?
[08:28] <chuck`_> mjbrooks: correct
[08:28] <SilentDis> mkquist: lol.  P1 300MHz, 64mb ram, 3gb hard drive.  old Toshiba Satellite 2535CDS :)
[08:28] <chuck`_> mjbrooks: DOHHH... nevermind
[08:29] <mjbrooks> chuck`_: I think there should be a checkbox in the   ok
[08:29] <chuck`_> mjbrooks: of course it stays open when i click "run in terminal" instead of run :x
[08:29] <|Amon|> is there ever gonna be a port of photoshop to nix... its the only reason i still have a windows partition
[08:29] <|Amon|> and gimp's still not quite there
[08:29] <mjbrooks> chuck`_: you got it
[08:29] <chuck`_> mjbrooks: I got it, thanks :]
[08:29] <mkquist> silentdis - p1??  wow, now that is old, but watch ur drive, itll fill up fast if ur not careful
[08:29] <SilentDis> |Amon|: from what I understand, Photoshop runs just fine with wine.... ;)
[08:29] <bz0b> SilentDis, this is the error i get when i attempt to install beryl
[08:29] <|Amon|> i dont want to emulate it
[08:30] <|Amon|> i was thinking about trying crossover...
[08:30] <SilentDis> mkquist: yeah.  I have a server running, and just made a user for the lappy there, and pointed /home to an nfs share lol
[08:30] <mkquist> silendis - good deal
[08:30] <chuck`_> mjbrooks: is there a flag or something that can be passed when executing a bash script to set the working directory to the path of the script?
[08:31] <Smegzor> I'm trying to rescue files off a dead Windows pc using the live ubuntu cd.  I have mounted the drive and connected to the remote windows share for my file server.  How do I copy the files?  Is there a better way?
[08:31] <anggarda> I'm about to download the ubuntu 6.10, whats the difference between the desktop edition and the server edition?
[08:31] <|Amon|> java 5 is the latest jvm right?
[08:31] <SilentDis> Smegzor: you can use built in graphical stuff, or just cp -ru /path/of/dead/drive/* /location/to/backup/to
[08:31] <giskardd> dammit, i'm tired of wrestling with ndiswrapper
[08:32] <ant_> java 6
[08:32] <SilentDis> !java | |Amon|
[08:32] <mjbrooks> chuck`_: you just want to change to it or prevent the script from seeing above it?
[08:32] <ubotu> |Amon|: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:32] <Smegzor> thanks
[08:32] <woz> hola a todos
[08:32] <chuck`_> chuck`_: just to change it so I can avoid having to specify full paths for things I'll be executing, java archives or otherwise
[08:32] <|Amon|> !flash
[08:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:32] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:32] <anggarda> anyone? whats the difference between the desktop and server downloads?
[08:32] <ant_> !es
[08:32] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:32] <manopulus> hello, installing mplayer i got problem (mplayer: Depends: libxvidcore4 (>= 1:1.0.0-0.0) but it is not installable), so, a question, where is correct player, which repository? thanks
[08:32] <mjbrooks> chuck`_: just cd to it
[08:32] <billy> anggarda: the server edition is for computers that will act as servers.  if you're not going to have your computer behave as a server, then you need the desktop, or the alternate.
[08:32] <woz> dependencias
[08:32] <woz> al synaptic
[08:33] <pierc1> !backports
[08:33] <anggarda> billy, are there any difference in packages?
[08:33] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:33] <chuck`_> Yeah I suppose that would work
[08:33] <chuck`_> heh
[08:33] <manopulus> !backports
[08:33] <billy> anggarda:  in the ones that are installed by default, yes.
[08:33] <ant_> !server | anggarda
[08:33] <ubotu> anggarda: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[08:34] <mkquist> anggarda - http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu
[08:34] <|Amon|> you guys rock... only reason i quit using linux is cuz of the snobs that are part of the other communities...
[08:34] <mjbrooks> chuck`_: if you want it to not be able to see above it you chroot
[08:34] <anggarda> ant_, mkquist, thank you.
[08:34] <woz> hi all
[08:34] <rm_you> hi :)
[08:34] <SilentDis> |Amon|: that's what turned me off of redhat so long ago.  I've never met a community so welcome and inviting as the Ubuntu community :)
[08:34] <billy> |Amon|: elitist attitudes stem from insecurities.
[08:34] <rm_you> We're like a small army!
[08:34] <rm_you> A... Errr... Warm, fuzzy army! :P
[08:35] <SilentDis> rm_you: fuzzy penguins? O.o
[08:35] <rm_you> :P
[08:35] <rm_you> I maintain my position about the fuzz. >_<
[08:35] <billy> i get paranoid when my firewall  stops getting hits.
[08:36] <ant_> lol
[08:36] <billy> :0
[08:36] <rm_you> Happy Feet did wonders for the fuzzy plush penguin market :P
[08:36] <mjbrooks> lol
[08:36] <rm_you> I even managed to get some penguin pajama pants and penguin slippers :)
[08:37] <linuxn00b2> I once was refered to a website that builds a repository list for you.  Sound familiar to anyone?
[08:37] <|Amon|> rm_you, too bad i dont plan on seeing it
[08:37] <|Amon|> lol
[08:37] <ardchoille> !offtopic
[08:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:37] <maddash> linuxn00b2: apt-spy
[08:37] <rm_you> lol
[08:37] <rm_you> penguins != off-topic?  Please take the off-topic chatter to another channel.
[08:39] <stingman> :P
[08:39] <billy> sorry ardchoille
[08:39] <Dabian> ardchoille : I didn't say nothing.
[08:39] <mjbrooks> hahahaha
[08:39] <Dabian> (YET)
[08:39] <rm_you> sorry ardchoille, I'll go to sleep now and not bother you any more :)
[08:39] <|Amon|> me too
[08:40] <Dabian> I don't know if this is offtopic, or otherwise punishable by death ... but when is the next Ubuntu release scheduled?
[08:40] <zyth> 7.04
[08:40] <ant_> april 17 i think
[08:40] <ardchoille> Dabian: April 19th is when Feisty is scheduled to release
[08:40] <Dabian> April 19th?
[08:40] <Dabian> Great!  Less than a month now!
[08:40] <Dabian> And it will come with lg3d, Beryl and other fancy stuff, right?
[08:41] <ardchoille> Dabian: No
[08:41] <Dabian> No?
[08:41] <ant_> goodnite all.
[08:41] <Dabian> Whats new then?
[08:41] <zyth> that stuff is in the repos.
[08:41] <Dabian> ant_ : Good night, you proud insect. ;-)
[08:41] <zyth> you install desktop-effects
[08:41] <pierc1> I am not really sure how the ubuntu releases work.  is edgy stuck with 2.6.17 forever now?
[08:41] <SilentDis> eeeeee actual user to help in #kubuntu! :D lol
[08:42] <ardchoille> pierc1: Once an Ubuntu is released, you will only get bug fixes and security updates
[08:42] <Dabian> ardchoille : Actually I think Ubuntu is better at bug fixing than Debian though .. but it might just be me?
[08:42] <Madpilot> pierc1, yes, Edgy is 'stuck' with whatever versions it was released with
 and backports?
[08:43] <zyth> pierc1, nah, you can compile your own shiny kernel
[08:43] <peija-kas> Madpilot what about backports
[08:43] <peija-kas> of prgs
[08:43] <Madpilot> peija-kas, yes, there's backports of some things, true.
[08:43] <Dabian> peija-kas : Unofficial.
[08:43] <rm_you|sleep> no backports of kernels though, which is the current topic of discussion, i believe :P
[08:43] <pierc1> so then on april 19th then I will stop getting updates when new versions of the programs I use come out?  (im using feisty)
[08:43] <Chetwin> I know wine has it's own channel, but no one is responding.  Are there any wine devs in here?
[08:44] <Dabian> pierc1 : How can you you use feisty when it is yet to be released?
[08:44] <peija-kas> and you can of course compile programs yourself...use "checkinstall" to install them instead of "make install" (checkinstall needs to be installed from repos!) and it will create .deb files of the prgs u have compiled and installed this way
[08:44] <rm_you|sleep> Chetwin: I've got a bit of experience with various versions of wine, if your problem isn't too technical...
[08:44] <Madpilot> pierc1, feisty has, I think, already entered String Freeze - no new versions of anything will be introduced, barring showstopper bugs
[08:44] <mjbrooks> Dabian: he's probably using herd 5
[08:44] <ricky> debian u can upgrade edgy yet
[08:44] <peija-kas> Dabian im using Feisty testing too to report bugs ;)
[08:44] <Chetwin> rm_you|sleep: can we go to private msg?
[08:45] <cyberfr0g> hi
[08:45] <pierc1> Dabian: I manually changed my sources.list, but as I understand it there is a more graphical nice way to do it now
[08:45] <rm_you|sleep> Chetwin: sure...
[08:45] <peija-kas> but DO NOT upgrade to Feisty yet if ure a normal user
[08:45] <Dabian> pierc1 : Darn .. everything is getting graphical. ;D
[08:45] <peija-kas> its got lot bugs yet
[08:45] <pierc1> is there a G ubuntu yet that will have the new stuff?
[08:45] <Dabian> pierc1 : Us ole boyz have a little trouble keeping up with all that fancy graphical stuff.  (At least some of us (me) does).
[08:46] <pierc1> I used to use debian a million years ago, then I've been using gentoo for about 4 years or so, and just dropped an ubuntu install on my macbook for fun :-)
[08:46] <Dabian> But no Beryl, lg3d or fancy stuff in Fiercy?
[08:46] <pierc1> I like the digitally signed packages etc
[08:46] <mneptok> Dabian: if you spell it "boyz" you're not old. :P
[08:47] <Dabian> mneptok : Hehe
 compiz is included in feisty but not on by default
[08:47] <Dabian> mneptok : Would me not being native english explain that bit? ;-)
[08:47] <pierc1> Dabian: you can install it, but you have to tweak some of the settings
[08:47] <Dabian> pierc1 : Hmm .. I haven't got compiz working.
[08:48] <peija-kas> beryl is easy to install too
[08:48] <mneptok> Dabian: would work as an excuse if you hadn't used "ole."
[08:48] <Dabian> mneptok :)
[08:48] <LaNCeloT_RW> see ya dudes!
[08:48] <LaNCeloT_RW> gotta go sleep
[08:48] <LaNCeloT_RW> =)
[08:48] <pierc1> Dabian: for some reason ubuntu still influenced by some of the dirty old men that ran debian, and some of the code you need is less kosher, so they don't enable it by default
[08:48] <mjbrooks> mneptok: very observant
[08:49] <zyth> actually, compiz isn't on by default because it doesn't work well with anything but intel or nvidia (with closed source proprietary driver) and AIGLX
[08:49] <zyth> so ATI or non-free driver users would be in trouble
[08:49] <pierc1> intel is totally open source
 no, its not on by default since its stll unstabel
[08:49] <pierc1> in the vanilla kernel
[08:49] <Dabian> pierc1 : But we moved away from debian, just to escape those men, didn't we?
[08:49] <zyth> pierc1, I said nvidia closed source
[08:49] <zyth> not intel :P
[08:50] <pierc1> I've been using it (and compiz) for a year, and had few issues
[08:50] <peija-kas> me too
[08:50] <peija-kas> but not al
[08:50] <peija-kas> l
[08:50] <zyth> now that I got an nvidia card, beryl works great, on my old ati card, it sucked.
[08:50] <peija-kas> that was the official reason, not dirty olde men
[08:50] <pierc1> ah, bad comma parsing on my end I guess :-p
[08:50] <Dabian> pierc1 : How is Intels (FOSS) gfx doing performance-wise?
[08:51] <pierc1> Dabian: smooth.  on my macbook I notice far less choppyness than on my desktop which uses a geforce 4 nvidia card
[08:51] <Dabian> zyth : I have a 7900gtx, and Beryl works just fine, at least if I don't watch DVD .. then there seems to be a little loss of performance.
[08:51] <zyth> Dabian, odd, I have a 6200 and it works finre
[08:51] <zyth> *fine
[08:51] <Dabian> pierc1 : GF4 is old.  But it is nice.
[08:51] <Dabian> zyth : I am very picky ... maybe I am just imagining things.
[08:52] <pierc1> im poor :-)  just out of undergrad and no money
[08:52] <zyth> Dabian, hehe
[08:52] <arooni> hey folks
[08:53] <billy> Hi arooni.
[08:53] <pierc1> things get a bit choppy when I play world of warcraft etc, or any of those games while running beryl, but I havn't noticed anything really from just watching videos
[08:54] <zyth> pierc1, thats odd, 3d games work fine for me in beryl.
[08:54] <pierc1> zyth: they work, I can just really notice that they compete over the resources on my card :-)
[08:54] <zyth> pierc1, may I recommend fullscreen?
[08:55] <pierc1> then I can't be on irc at the same time :-p
[08:56] <sid> With the movie player, how can I clear the history of played videos? ie from the "Movie" drop down menu
[08:56] <sid> (I'm not talking about playlist)
[08:56] <pierc1> haha
[08:57] <zyth> sid, that kind of thing isn't saved so people can't spy on your pr0n viewing habits
[08:58] <Madpilot> sid, Places->Recent Documents->Clear Recent Documents will clear the entire system, including most of the Gnome-integrated programs - I know it clears gedit's recent list, it could well work on Totem movie player's
[08:58] <sid> zyth: I rebooted, and it's still there.
[08:58] <sid> thanks Madpilot
[08:59] <poningru> sid: an easy way to avoid that at all is
[08:59] <poningru> make chmod a-xw .recently*
[08:59] <poningru> err
[08:59] <poningru> chmod a-xw .recently*
[09:00] <ardchoille> poningru: Why not just:  ln -s /dev/null ~/.recently-used
[09:01] <poningru> ardchoille: true
[09:01] <kraut> moin
[09:01] <poningru> there are a thousands you can do
[09:02] <pierc1> there is probably only one right way though
[09:02] <Dabian> pierc1 : Maybe its my cpu
[09:03] <pierc1> what?
[09:03] <Dabian> pierc1 : I dont have trouble wit video ... just dvds
[09:03] <pierc1> haha
[09:03] <pelai> define commercial type car.
[09:03] <pierc1> ah
[09:03] <pelai> whoops
[09:03] <Madpilot> Reason #6,762,017 to run Linux: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6465833.stm
[09:03] <Geoffrey2> is there any particular problem with downloading another jvm when I already have one installed?
[09:04] <Dabian> pierc1 : And my trouble with dvds is not actual stops .. but more like a slowdown feeling.
[09:04] <Dabian> pierc1 : Only occationally.
[09:04] <bz0b> Anyone here use beryl?
[09:04] <Dabian> bz0b : I do.
[09:04] <Frogzoo> bz0b: -> #ubuntu-effects
[09:05] <bz0b> Dabian, i installed it, and it looks to load fine, but i can't understand how to use it, for instance i try and change the theme and it wont change when i double click the one i want or when i try and use the desktop cube with the default bindings that wont work either am i doing soemthing wrong?
[09:06] <lisapc> will a little 1 gig USB flash drive work on Ubuntu?
[09:06] <Tomcat_> lisapc: Yes.
[09:06] <|Amon|> anyone here run apf before?
[09:06] <Dabian> bz0b : Try and reload both.
[09:06] <bz0b> I did
[09:06] <Frogzoo> bz0b: try clicking the red crystal & choose 'change window manager' - does it show beryl as the wm, or gnome?
[09:06] <bz0b> gnome
[09:07] <bz0b> Frogzoo, and when i try choosing beryl it wont go to it
[09:07] <lisapc> Tomcat_,  how?
[09:07] <Tomcat_> lisapc: Plug it in, wait till the window opens? :o
[09:07] <lisapc> Tomcat_,  just plug it into the USB port?  doesnt it need drivers?
[09:07] <Tomcat_> lisapc: The drivers are already there. :)
[09:07] <bz0b> lisapc, no just mount it
[09:07] <poningru> uhh wtf
[09:07] <lisapc> cool :-)
[09:08] <bz0b> that's linux for ya
[09:08] <lisapc> bz0b,  how?
[09:08] <squee> Is there a program that works as a calculator from bash?
[09:08] <bz0b> umm i believe its mount /dev/usb
[09:08] <ardchoille> squee: cal
[09:08] <Tomcat_> squee: There is, but I don't remember the name...
[09:08] <bz0b> i haven't used linux for like 6 months now i forgot
[09:08] <Frogzoo> bz0b: because beryl's broken for you, as it's beta still that's not that amazing
[09:08] <Tomcat_> ardchoille: That's a calendar. :o
[09:08] <squee> ardchoille: cal is a calender
[09:09] <poningru> Tomcat_: are you on moznet?
[09:09] <lisapc> bz0b,  i have 4 usb ports
[09:09] <ardchoille> Oops, misread, sorry
[09:09] <Tomcat_> poningru: Nope, but the nick is not uncommon.
[09:09] <Geoffrey2> I have a java virtual machine installed, but a program I'm trying to install doesn't recognize it and suggests I install one...any particular problem with doing that?
[09:09] <poningru> ah ok
[09:09] <poningru> Geoffrey2: not really... but thats not the right thing to do
[09:09] <poningru> the right thing to do is make your program recognize the one you have installed irhgt now
[09:09] <poningru> Geoffrey2: what program is not installing?
[09:10] <Geoffrey2> a program called Moneydance
[09:10] <bz0b> lisapc, sorry im not sure, i dont mean to be rude but could you ask someone else, they might have a better idea than me
[09:11] <Geoffrey2> poningru, the message I get from the program is 'Please define INSTALL4J_JAVA_HOME to point to a suitable JVM.'
[09:11] <lisapc> bz0b,  no need to be rude
[09:11] <bz0b> lisapc, huh?
[09:11] <ardchoille> lisapc: I have found that most 2.0 usb sticks will auto mount when you plug them in. If you have nautilus set to browse media when plugged in, then nautilus will pop up a window when you plug the usb stick in. If this doesn't work, there are other methods.
[09:11] <poningru> Geoffrey2: hmm
[09:11] <lisapc> bz0b,  jk :)
[09:11] <bz0b> lisapc, try doing this, cd /media
[09:12] <bz0b> and see if its in there
[09:12] <lisapc> ardchoille, how can I set nautilus to browse media when plugged in?
[09:12] <poningru> Geoffrey2: here can you try this?
[09:12] <poningru> run this in the terminal
[09:12] <ardchoille> lisapc: System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media. I believe it's the third checkbox down on the Storage tab
[09:13] <poningru> 'set INSTALL4J_JAVA_HOME=/path/to/jvm
[09:13] <poningru> err remove the quotes
[09:14] <lisapc> ardchoille, auto open files on new media?
[09:14] <poningru> lisapc: yes
[09:14] <lisapc> poningru, ok
[09:14] <lisapc> brb
[09:14] <ardchoille> lisapc: 'Browse removable media when inserted'
[09:14] <lisapc> ardchoille,  ok ty
[09:15] <lisapc> ardchoille, its already selected anyway
[09:15] <ardchoille> lisapc: Plug in your usb stick and see if nautilus pops open
[09:15] <ardchoille> lisapc: You might have to give it a few seconds
[09:15] <lisapc> ardchoille,  sorry I dont have one yet! im asking before I buy one
[09:16] <lisapc> ardchoille, to make sure it will work, so dont waste my money
[09:16] <ardchoille> lisapc: The thing I look for on the usb stick package is "USB 2.0" those seem to work great, I have had trouble with USB 1 on Dapper.
[09:16] <ardchoille> lisapc: Smart idea :)
[09:18] <Geoffrey2> poningru, well, it took it without complaint
[09:20] <poningru> Geoffrey2: restart your app now
[09:20] <badli> morgen
[09:21] <Dabian> badli: Guten
[09:22] <lisapc> ardchoille,  ty :-)
[09:22] <ardchoille> lisapc: You're welcome :)
[09:22] <lisapc> bye for now :)
[09:23] <acoward> call of duty throws an error saying my video card doesn't support some feature or something... will switching to fglrx solve my problem?
[09:23] <Geoffrey2> poningru, nope, it still tells me it can't find a suitable java virtual machine
[09:26] <poningru> Geoffrey2: hmm weird
[09:26] <kagome_> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:26] <kagome_> leh nalan
[09:26] <poningru> Geoffrey2: what vm do you have installed?
[09:26] <Madpilot> OK, that's irritating. When you hit Ctrl+T for a new tab in Edgy's version of Epiphany, it doesn't automatically move the cursor into the address bar of the new tab...
[09:26] <poningru> Madpilot: thats cause epiphany-- and firefox++
[09:26] <Madpilot> Edgy's Firefox & Opera 9 both do the right thing with new tabs or windows...
[09:26] <ardchoille> Madpilot: Does CTRL+l help?
[09:27] <poningru> ardchoille: yes it does but that sucks
[09:27] <Madpilot> ardchoille, yeah, ctrl+l moves the cursor where it should be, but I shouldn't to do that extra keystroke
[09:27] <Madpilot> shouldn't have to do, rather
[09:27] <ardchoille> Madpilot: Well, you're right about that.
[09:27] <Madpilot> a bug-reporting we shall go
[09:28] <ardchoille> :)
[09:28] <ricky_> anyone know how can i get the kjofol plugin working?
[09:29] <rodzyn> witam
[09:29] <Madpilot> poningru, epiph is the only browser that's ever come close to tempting me away from Opera. It's still got a ways to go, though...
[09:29] <rodzyn> hello
[09:30] <poningru> Madpilot: arent they opposite ends of the spectrum??
[09:30] <poningru> rodzyn: whatsup?
[09:30] <Madpilot> poningru, not really, not the way i've got Opera customized - I use a very minimalist setup w/ Opera
[09:30] <rodzyn> I test IRC because my first time
[09:30] <poningru> Madpilot: why not go with firefox then?
[09:31] <poningru> and make that minimalistic?
[09:31] <raboof> rodzyn: it works :)
[09:31] <rodzyn> :)
[09:31] <Geoffrey2> poningru, sun java 5....the funny thing is the program works fine, this is an installer script for a newer version of Moneydance that insists I don't have a proper jvm installed
[09:31] <ricky_> anyone know how can i get the kjofol plugin working on xmms?
[09:31] <poningru> Geoffrey2: hmm sounds like a bug
[09:31] <Madpilot> poningru, it's 'lukewarm' - I don't like it's defaults (I do like Epiphany's) and it's nowhere near as configurable as Opera... so FF looses from both ends
[09:32] <poningru> Geoffrey2: is it in the repositories?
[09:32] <poningru> Madpilot: bwhahahahhahahahha
[09:32] <poningru> saying firefox is not configurable is like saying diamond isnt hard enough
[09:32] <dromer> hi, I'm trying to get my Quickcam Messenger to work and I found this: http://homes.esat.kuleuven.be/~decockd/wiki/bin/view.cgi/Main/InstallingQuickCamMessengerTOC  << how do I run this script?
[09:32] <Geoffrey2> poningru, no, Moneydance is a program you have to pay for
[09:32] <poningru> Madpilot: granted you have to get into random config file editings
[09:33] <poningru> Geoffrey2: yeah sounds like a bug with their installer
[09:33] <squee> How do I change the shared memory in Edgy? (/etc/sysctl.conf?)
[09:33] <Madpilot> poningru, having masses of plugins & extensions available != configurable. Likewise, fiddling with those random config files is best avoided.
[09:33] <poningru> Madpilot: I thought you said you wanted to tone it down
[09:34] <poningru> if you wanna tone it down then no need for extension
[09:34] <poningru> just do it by hand
[09:34] <ricky_> how can i use kjofol skins on xmms?
[09:34] <poningru> Madpilot: I guess I can understand the dropping down to config files doesnt suit everyone
[09:34] <unimatrix9> why not use winamd skins for your xmms?
[09:34] <unimatrix9> winamp
[09:35] <unimatrix9> classic skins work on xmms, and they look cool
[09:35] <unimatrix9> :)
[09:35] <ricky_> ok
[09:35] <ricky_> just the clasisc ones?
[09:37] <gyaresu> ls
[09:38] <mtchaze> Anybody managed to install PDFedit on Edgy?
[09:38] <|Amon|> mtchaze, why are you running Edgy?
[09:39] <mtchaze> 6.10
[09:39] <|Amon|> ah nvm
[09:40] <mjbrooks> I hate shoping for notebooks, it's so tempting
[09:40] <|Amon|> aye
[09:40] <|Amon|> i just got a toshiba
[09:41] <|Amon|> toshiba satellite
[09:41] <mtchaze> Edgy seems to be very stable, apart from the occasional freeze.
[09:41] <|Amon|> mtchaze, lol
[09:42] <|Amon|> i run lts
[09:42] <mkquist> acoward - cod on linux?
[09:42] <mtchaze> Is there a quick reset similar to CTRL+ALT+DEL
[09:43] <|Amon|> sic, ctrl+alt+tab works in ubuntu
[09:43] <Smurphy[ACS] > mtchaze: Don't have freezes .. I'd check my hardware if I were you :)
[09:44] <|Amon|> Ditto Smurphy[ACS]  .
[09:44] <mtchaze> Does the ctrl+alt+tab start up a new session?
[09:44] <Smurphy[ACS] > :)
[09:44] <Smurphy[ACS] > and I even use Beryl :) under Edgy ...
[09:44] <mkquist> thought it was ctrl/alt/backspace?
[09:45] <Smurphy[ACS] > Nope - sorry ...
[09:45] <mtchaze> Where is Feisty due out?
[09:45] <mkquist> tower records?
[09:45] <pierc1> haha
[09:46] <mjbrooks> mkquist: ^alt-bckspc kills your xserver
[09:46] <pierc1> mtchaze: all over the internet april 19th
[09:46] <Adlai> mtchaze: google it
[09:46] <Rolm> hello can anybody tell me how to remove a package by force with dependency .
[09:46] <mkquist> so does crt/alt/tab reboot?
[09:46] <alvaro> hi
[09:47] <mkquist> mjbrooks - does ctrl/alt/tab reboot?
[09:47] <D0wN> Hey, is there a Linux file shredder, that can do a Gutmann wipe?
[09:47] <jf1> hi
[09:47] <arnina> how to solve it:readline/readline.h: No such file or directory?
[09:47] <jf1> does anyone can reset my freenode password ?
[09:47] <mtchaze> official version of 7.04 in April 19th, 2007
[09:47] <arnina> I need your help
[09:48] <mjbrooks> mkquist: no
[09:48] <Smurphy[ACS] > Yes there is ... KDE -> kpgp has a shredder device ...
[09:48] <Geoffrey2> 6.10 goes crunch on me now and then, but it's a problem with the internal wireless, and I've pretty much accepted there's just no way to fix it.....
[09:48] <jf1> i dunno why from this morning i have "password incorrect"
[09:48] <Smurphy[ACS] > Geoffrey2: What wireless device u using ?
[09:48] <arnina> the /usr/include/readline dir doesnt exist
[09:48] <hi_im_new> Hi all.... At this moment, I have a working ubuntu (which ive used every day for months, and NEVER used windows) and an expired copy of WINDOWS VISTA on another partition.  I finally need to reinstall a copy of XP over that useless VISTA partition, but at the end of it, it will no longer go to GRUB manager and boot directly into XP.  How am I supposed to fix this?
[09:48] <D0wN> Thanks Smurphy[ACS] . I'll look into it.
[09:49] <mtchaze> Is there a mem test app in 6.10?
[09:49] <Geoffrey2> it's a built it Broadcom chipset on a Dell laptop
[09:49] <XP> hi_im_new: u still have the live cd for ubuntu?
[09:49] <arnina> readline/readline.h: No such file or directory?what should i do?
[09:49] <hi_im_new> hmmmmmmmmmm
[09:49] <hi_im_new> i think?  or at least a 6.10 one?
[09:49] <hi_im_new> is that goint to work?
[09:49] <Smurphy[ACS] > D0wNL: :)
[09:50] <mkquist> lol
[09:50] <pierc1> arnina: have you tried    apt-get install libreadline5-dev ?
[09:50] <arnina> oh ,thanks ,i will try
[09:50] <Smurphy[ACS] > hi_im_new: reinstall grub. Boot of the Ubuntu CD - and reinstall grub.
[09:50] <Smurphy[ACS] > !grub | hi_im_new
[09:50] <ubotu> hi_im_new: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:51] <mjbrooks> Geoffrey2: use ndiswrapper
[09:52] <Smurphy[ACS] > I even got Wifi running flawlessly on a Mac-mini :) That is what I call a Cool Piece of Hardware !!!
[09:53] <mtchaze> Is there a mem test app in Edgy.?
[09:53] <MistaED> mtchaze: yeah it should be in the grub list, memtest86
[09:53] <Madpilot> poningru, if you try to file a bug against epiph in LP, it tells you that epiph does not use Malone as it's bugtracker - but fails to provide an obvious link to epiph's actual bugtracker... :|
[09:54] <Dabian> How do I upgrade to fiercy?
[09:54] <arnina> pierc1:can you show me  all the basic libs when programming?
[09:54] <poningru> Madpilot: oh lp.net does that for like a gajillion packages
[09:54] <poningru> !upgrade | Dabian
[09:54] <ubotu> Dabian: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:55] <Dabian> !thanks | poningru
[09:55] <ubotu> poningru: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:55] <Madpilot> poningru, yeah, is irritating. You can bypass it by going back to the main bugs page, tho...
[09:55] <pierc1> arnina: anything with -dev on the end will install libraries etc
[09:56] <pierc1> arnina: did that readline thing start working?
[09:56] <arnina> pierc1:yeah
[09:57] <arnina> and how to install all the -dev lib
[09:57] <Dabian> pierc1 : You might want to read this: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html
[09:57] <pierc1> arnina: neat :-)  lucky guess I suppose     in the package manager, try searching
[09:58] <Dabian> pierc1 : Not exactly the document I was searching for .. but it has some good insights still, IMHO.
[09:58] <arnina> pierc1:ok,thanks
[09:58] <blues_lovva> hello room
[09:58] <pierc1> Dabian: im actually pretty well read on the material :-p
[09:58] <Dabian> pierc1 : And I posted on the wrong window :)
[09:59] <arnina> pierc1:linux/sys.h: No such file or directory?
[09:59] <blues_lovva> quick question: has anyone tred making beryl/compiz work on a SiS adapter?
[09:59] <arnina> i am just compiling the RouterCli
[10:00] <arnina> it will do under RedHat
[10:00] <pierc1> arnina: I would suggest searching google for the error message, and the word ubuntu, and the first hit should tell you what package you need to install.  that sounds like it would be something like linux-headers or something.  I've only been using ubuntu for a week, so I don't really know
[10:02] <lisapc> my Nvidia 7300 supports NVIDIA TurboCache.  How do I turn that feature on?
[10:02] <mjbrooks> now I have to decide if I want to go AMD 64 or Intel Core Duo    sigh
[10:02] <arnina> pierc1:well
[10:02] <Madpilot> poningru, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-browser/+bug/94026
[10:02] <ernst> Please help, after 'trying to extract' a iso file, i think my gnome panel crashed, the bug buddy kept comming up and gnome-panel keeps crashing... I rebooted, still!! I can't do anything and i need to hand in some files today!
[10:02] <lisapc> mjbrooks ICD
[10:02] <aalhamad> how to give a permission to a directory ( read and write) ??
[10:02] <aalhamad> how to give a permission to a directory ( read and write) ?? --- help plzzz
[10:03] <lisapc> aalhamad pls dont beg
[10:03] <arnina> aalharnad:chmod
[10:03] <Dabian> lisapc : Tell me when I can help him.
[10:03] <epl> aalhamad: try "man chmod"
[10:03] <lisapc> Dabian now ;)
[10:03] <Dabian> don't help him!
[10:03] <aalhamad> i've tried it but still
[10:03] <Dabian> lisapc : Hehe ok.
[10:04] <lisapc> Dabian :-)
[10:04] <aalhamad> do i but an (*)
[10:04] <Dabian> aalhamad : Rightclick and choose the security fan.
[10:04] <aalhamad> as root
[10:04] <arnina> chmod 777 will do
[10:04] <mjbrooks> lisapc: any particular reason for your recommendation?
[10:04] <Dabian> aalhamad : Or open a terminal emulator, and use chmod +w /path/to/directory
[10:04] <lisapc> mjbrooks yes.
[10:04] <pierc1> arnina: blasphemy!
[10:05] <cubny> hi all
[10:05] <lisapc> mjbrooks http://www.amd.com/us-en/0,,3715_13368_13369,00.html?redir=CPSW51
[10:05] <brutus> hi all
[10:05] <Dabian> arnina : Don't tell me .. you work with security on a daily basis, right?
[10:05] <epl> Dabian: hehe
[10:05] <aalhamad> aalhamad@aalhamad:~$ sudo chmod +w  /media/Horace/
[10:05] <aalhamad> chmod: changing permissions of `/media/Horace/': Read-only file system
[10:05] <aalhamad> i want to make it write 2
[10:06] <Dabian> aalhamad : sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/Horace
[10:06] <cubny> is it possible to install compiz on dapper?
[10:06] <lisapc> mjbrooks cooling. This is a place where Intel is far and away way superior to AMD
[10:06] <Dabian> cubny: Yes, next question.
[10:06] <pierc1> cubny: compiz is gross, all the cool kids use beryl now
[10:07] <lisapc> mjbrooks AMD doesnt have the cooling abilities that core duo has.  Hence, without quality cooling, the CPU wont have as good longevity
[10:07] <Dabian> lisapc : Right now I don't think there is a point where Intel isn't supior to AMD .. save price maybe.
[10:07] <arnina> dabian:no,dont do that :chmod 777
[10:07] <Kaip> Ok. This is my first time on the Ubuntu Channel. I have a specific question about a certain wireless card's compatability. Can someone help me?
[10:07] <Dabian> Kaip : Get another card. :-P
[10:07] <Kaip> Lols
[10:07] <pierc1> arnina: you would be shocked to see how many fun exploits you can find by googling for    "chmod 777" inurl:HOWTO
[10:07] <lisapc> Dabian in the long run, the intel will cost less. as it will last longer due to better cooling.  In short term focus AMD is cheaper, but in long term focus, Intel is cheaper
[10:07] <Kaip> Id rather not
[10:08] <Madpilot> Kaip, probably - just ask your question, with specifics if you've got them - card model, etc
[10:08] <cubny> is there any .sh file availabe to do all the beryl install works?
[10:08] <Dabian> lisapc : That depends.
[10:08] <lisapc> Dabian Intel can hire more dedicated engineers to design cooling solutions for their CPU's.  And cooling is the key for longevity and reliability
[10:08] <Dabian> lisapc : I agree the default cooling for AMD is inadequate.
[10:08] <lisapc> Dabian exactly
[10:09] <Kaip> Ok. Its a D-Link DWL-G630 Card Rev E. I know that A through C are supported. But no matter where i search, i cant seem to find any solid information about it.
[10:09] <Dabian> lisapc : But if you buy a new computer every second or third year, and buy better cooling anyhow, I think it wont make a big difference.
[10:09] <Dabian> Kaip : Is it USB?
[10:09] <lisapc> Dabian Intel heatsink is just designed so well, AMD cant compete with that!  And cooling is very very important to longevity and reliability. Hence, intel is more feasible choice
[10:10] <netham45> Successfully Installed Feisty
[10:10] <lisapc> Dabian i never assume a person can afford to do that
[10:10] <Kaip> No. PCMCIA
[10:10] <lisapc> mjbrooks you reading this? :) hehe
[10:10] <cubny> :-/
[10:10] <Dabian> lisapc : Right now I am infact using the default cooler of AMD64x2 4200+ ... I think.
[10:10] <mjbrooks> lisapc: of course
[10:10] <lisapc> mjbrooks your thoughts?
[10:11] <Dabian> lisapc : Yes ... 4200+ (x2)
[10:11] <lisapc> mjbrooks dont ever think about saving a few bucks.  in the long term it wioll cost you more
[10:11] <mjbrooks> lisapc: Intel is evil but they hire Blue Man Group....   I'm torn    lol
[10:11] <lisapc> mjbrooks quality and top class cooling is a main key
[10:11] <Dabian> lisapc : Its on an AM2 motherboard ... i was planning to get a 960 motherboard .. and I have a cooler that fits that board. ;-)
[10:11] <lisapc> mjbrooks and AMD simply cant compete
[10:11] <Kaip> Because im quite keen to get it running on my laptop. But it was just giving me issues
[10:12] <lisapc> mjbrooks define Blue Man Group
[10:12] <mjbrooks> lisapc:it's a theatric group
[10:12] <lisapc> mjbrooks im from Australia, we dont hear about that here
[10:12] <mjbrooks> lisapc: they did some commercials for them
[10:12] <lisapc> mjbrooks what you mean?  and how are they evil?
[10:12] <Dabian> lisapc : 130W cooler ... do you agree that would equal out the advantage on cooling of Intel?
[10:12] <lisapc> Dabian im not qualified to comment on that level. sorry
[10:12] <cubny> is there any .sh file availabe to do all the beryl install works?
[10:12] <Kaip> Dabian (Ill just namedrop with the info) PCMCIA
[10:12] <mjbrooks> lisapc: There's a reason why people say Wintel
[10:13] <Dabian> lisapc : Take my word for it then. :)
[10:13] <lisapc> Dabian I trust nobody :)
[10:13] <Dabian> lisapc : He is not here .. so you'll have to take my word for it ;-)
[10:13] <lisapc> Dabian only the good Lord.  thats it :)
[10:13] <Dabian> lisapc : Nobody and the good Lord. :)
[10:13] <lisapc> Dabian I consider and ponder your words, but I dont fully trust them.  I always do my own due-diligence
[10:14] <lisapc> Dabian :-)
[10:14] <lisapc> mjbrooks if you feel that strongly about such things, then your answer is AMD
[10:14] <mjbrooks> lol
[10:14] <Dabian> lisapc : Durability is seldom a point for me when I buy computer.  When I bought this one June last year, Intel was behind performance-wise ... This is no longer the case.
[10:14] <lisapc> mjbrooks did you realise that the group who own AMD are Satanists?
[10:14] <lisapc> Dabian ok
[10:15] <Dabian> Satanists?
[10:15] <epl> lisapc: what?
[10:15] <lisapc> mjbrooks whatever you buy, realise that someone in the link has ties to something or someone _evil_ :)
[10:15] <Kaip> Dabian Any chance for a little feedback?
[10:15] <Dabian> lisapc : Satanists?  You mean presbytanian?
[10:15] <epl> lisapc: sounds interesting, care to elaborate on the satanist thing?
[10:15] <mjbrooks> lisapc: Satanists?????!  Well that's ok, Bush is my president so I have worse things to worry about
[10:15] <lisapc> epl do you even know who really owns AMD?
[10:16] <epl> lisapc: no
[10:16] <epl> lisapc: please tell me
[10:16] <Dabian> Kaip : Lost track .. but I don't know much about PCMCIA .. save that some cards actually do work.  (Unlike USB, I guess .. where its really seldom).
[10:16] <lisapc> mjbrooks Bush and USA is the beast that came out of the Earth.  Its pure evil :P
[10:16] <lisapc> epl so you dont know who realy owns and controls AMD?
[10:16] <epl> lisapc: I just told you, no I don't.
[10:16] <Kaip> Dabian Yeah. Thats pretty much the answer i keep getting. Any recommendations on a 100% reliable card that will work with Ubuntu?
[10:16] <Supaplex> sweet pumpkin pie. WHO CARES.
[10:17] <Netham45|Sleep> !dualhead
[10:17] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[10:17] <Netham45|Sleep> !xinerama
[10:17] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[10:17] <lisapc> ATI is now owned by AMD, but AMD is owned buy a guy that lives in Asia.
[10:17] <Dabian> Kaip : I asked about that before .. but didn't get an answer.
[10:17] <mjbrooks> lisapc: don''t be drawing imaginary lines connecting Bush with all of us  The real vote count shows that most of us hate him too
[10:17] <Dabian> Kaip : I know a girl who has a card that works though.
[10:17] <lisapc> ep1 find out and learn about this guy in Asia and his beliefs
[10:17] <Dabian> Kaip : Lemme give her a call.
[10:17] <Kaip> Dabian Wow. That would be great :D
[10:17] <Dabian> Kaip : I doubt she's home / awake though.
[10:18] <Valdebbo> Hi all. I have a strange problem: upon login, a 128x128 square with vertical lines appears in the top left corner, right where the Ubuntu logo should be.
[10:18] <lisapc> mjbrooks so stop being silly then :)  just get the Intel!  everything on earth is evil.
[10:18] <epl> lisapc: hehe
[10:18] <lisapc> epl ;)
[10:18] <Valdebbo> It disappeared once when I ran an application which required root privileges.
[10:18] <lisapc> mjbrooks if I want to avoid everything evil, I would have to move from Earth
[10:18] <mkquist> waaaaay !offtopic
[10:18] <mkquist> lol
[10:19] <lisapc> mjbrooks but having said that, I wont support bad religious organisations or satanic evil ones
[10:19] <mjbrooks> lisapc: I'll help you buy the ticket
[10:19] <mjbrooks> lol
[10:19] <Dabian> Kaip : She answered!
[10:19] <lisapc> mjbrooks ty :)
[10:19] <Dabian> Kaip : She is looking for it now.
[10:19] <lisapc> mjbrooks its ok, im going to heaven one day anyway.  :)
[10:19] <Kaip> Dabian Thanks alot
[10:19] <Valdebbo> Can anyone help me out there?
[10:19] <Dabian> Kaip : "Orinoco" is the name of the card .. "PC-card"
[10:19] <lisapc> mjbrooks so get the intel and be silent ;) hehe
[10:19] <Dabian> Kaip : Its also called "Silver card"
[10:19] <latitude> what's a good p2p app for edgy?
[10:20] <Kaip> Dabian Ok, ill write that down. Thanks kindly. Very Muchly Appreciated ^^
[10:20] <viktor> !p2p
[10:20] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[10:20] <Valdebbo> !aMule
[10:20] <ubotu> amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[10:20] <latitude> i cant get gtk gnutella to work
[10:20] <mjbrooks> !KTorrent
[10:20] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1154 kB, installed size 5032 kB
[10:21] <lisapc> ktorrent is great
[10:21] <lisapc> latitude use ktorrent
[10:22] <Valdebbo> There is no good Linux torrent client - as of yet.
[10:22] <yell0w> lisapc, according to your logic, i'd have to throw away my rice cooker, abandon my comfy bed, give up on japanimantion, and live on bread for the rest of my life ? no thank you, that's too much of a horror.
[10:22] <Valdebbo> KTorrent is the best among them, but it still s***s donkey c**k.
[10:22] <Valdebbo> Use uTorrent with Crossover.
[10:22] <yell0w> lisapc, i'd rather get by with a bit of evil, asian or not ;(
[10:22] <lisapc> yell0w exactly my point!  so tell that to mjbrooks
[10:23] <lisapc> yell0w NO
[10:23] <lisapc> yell0w avoid it if you can
[10:23] <yell0w> ;(
[10:23] <lisapc> Valdebbo whats Crossover?
[10:23] <GTX> Lets you run windows apps easily on Linux lisapc
[10:23] <yell0w> wine on steroids ?
[10:23] <lisapc> yell0w be a nice boy now and as Phil Nike said "Just do it!" :-)
[10:23] <lisapc> GTX cool!  is it free?
[10:24] <lisapc> !crossover
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <GTX> For like 14 days kis
[10:24] <GTX> lisapc *
[10:24] <lisapc> kis?
[10:24] <GTX> Still got a hangover lisapc :p
[10:24] <Valdebbo> !cxoffice
[10:24] <mjbrooks> lisapc: Crossover is a commecial version of wine
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cxoffice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <mjbrooks> !wine
[10:24] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:25] <lisapc> GTX I drank for 15 years and as a result now im my 40's i have brain damage and problems!    give that poison away while you can and save yourself a horrid future
[10:25] <yell0w> lisapc, hehe :P
[10:25] <lisapc> mjbrooks how much?
[10:25] <mjbrooks> for crossover?
[10:25] <GTX> I can't stop lisapc, that's the problem :p
[10:25] <lisapc> GTX if you could travel in time and the older you could visit you, you would plea with yourself to give that poison away
[10:25] <Valdebbo> Just download it with KTorrent, then set it up...then set up uTorrent with Crossover. ;)
[10:25] <lisapc> GTX is someont forcing you to drink?
[10:25] <mjbrooks> Valdebbo: bwahahaha
[10:26] <lisapc> GTX when was the last time someone had a gun to your head and commanded you drink?
[10:26] <lisapc> GTX its a free choice, you have free will.  YOu drink because you want to, not because you cant stop
[10:26] <lisapc> brb
[10:27] <mjbrooks> !offtopic
[10:27] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:27] <lisapc> mjbrooks sorry
[10:27] <Hallag1> Hey guys. Can anyone give me a WORKING link or a PM walkthrough of how to get nVidia drivers working on Feisty [I have a 6600GT] . Ive been Googling for two days with no success. Does anyone feel like helping me?
[10:27] <GTX> Talk about it in
[10:27] <GTX> Freenode channel lisapc *
[10:27] <mjbrooks> !envy
[10:27] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[10:28] <Hallag1> mjbrooks: Envy doesnt work on Feisty
[10:28] <mjbrooks> Hallag1: no??
[10:28] <Hallag1> mjbrooks: No
[10:28] <mjbrooks> Hallag1: well that rots
[10:28] <mneptok> Envy doesn't really "work" *any*where
[10:29] <mjbrooks> mneptok: I've heard it praised  by seceral people
[10:29] <Hallag1> mjbrooks: "ENVY ERROR: Your Operative System does not seem to be supported by Envy " THere it is, ad verbatim
[10:30] <mjbrooks> Hallag1: thanks for the tip
[10:31] <Hallag1> So, can anyone else help?
[10:31] <mjbrooks> man, my laptop broke at a terrible time   I'm flying across the country in just over a week
[10:31] <Dabian> lisapc : Why do you think the Asian guy worships Satan?
[10:32] <oyvind> hi
[10:32] <oyvind> anyone here??
[10:32] <billy> yo
[10:32] <mjbrooks> nope  we left
[10:32] <oyvind> hehe
[10:32] <MythrilSword> i was never here
[10:32] <Tomcat_> All 974 at once. ;P
[10:32] <bubblenut> I seem to need to be root to use the internet at all
[10:32] <Dabian> mjbrooks : Thats a lie!
[10:32] <oyvind> its my first time useing linux
[10:33] <Tomcat_> oyvind: Good choice! :-)
[10:33] <Dabian> oyvind : Congratulations!
[10:33] <mjbrooks> bubblenut: then get off windows and use linux
[10:33] <Dabian> oyvind : (GNU/Linux) :)
[10:33] <bubblenut> If I don't start firefox or gaim from the command line with sudo I can't access the internet, any ideas how I can fix this?
[10:33] <oyvind> can someone tell me how i open a internett browser
[10:33] <MythrilSword> oyvind, i feel sorry  for you, why did you do it to yoursdelf ? ?=)
[10:33] <oyvind> its the only way
[10:33] <MythrilSword> oyvind,on aplication dropdown menu you have internet submenu
[10:34] <Madpilot> oyvind, Applications->Internet->Firefox
[10:34] <oyvind> ok, but i dont find firefox there and thats the problem
[10:34] <MythrilSword> use mozilla
[10:34] <oyvind> can someone send it to me over irc??
[10:34] <oyvind> that would be very nice
[10:34] <olmo21> NHOLA QUE TAL
[10:34] <Madpilot> oyvind, no firefox? standard install of Ubuntu includes FF...
[10:35] <crdlb> oyvind, did you use the desktop installer?
[10:35] <mjbrooks> oyvind: are you in ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:35] <Hallag1> Can anyone give me a WORKING link or a PM walkthrough of how to get nVidia drivers working on Feisty [I have a 6600GT] . Ive been Googling for two days with no success [Envy doesnt work either] . Does anyone feel like helping me?
[10:35] <oyvind> ubuntu
[10:35] <mkquist> anyone, what causes grub to hang at 'grub loading' any thoughts?
[10:35] <MythrilSword> or go to synaptic and find "firefox", mark it , use it
[10:35] <olmo21> HOLA CAKY
[10:35] <ablyth> hi. new to (k)ubuntu - not to linux - gentoo user for 4 years. got mighty sick of comile times... is there a unstable repo or the the like so i can get not quite so bleeding edge but pretty close to packages?
[10:35] <billy> mkquist:  trying to boot windows?
[10:35] <crdlb> Hallag1, the new nvidia drivers are included in feisty, you do not need (or want) to use envy
[10:35] <arnina> anybody know the lib for linux/sys.h?
[10:35] <oyvind> version  for pc its what i have installed
[10:35] <Madpilot> ubotu, es | olmo21
[10:35] <ubotu> olmo21: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:35] <mkquist> billy - nope ubuntu
[10:36] <mkquist> billy - no windows installed, just ubuntu
[10:36] <lisapc> Dabian my point is, you will proably never know for sure if the asian guy who owns AMD does or does not
[10:36] <billy> mkquist: have you edited fstab lately?
[10:36] <psyke83> hi, can someone tell me what package is responsible for generating /etc/hosts? I want to file a bug on launchpad and need to know what package to file against
[10:36] <oyvind> can someone talk to me in a private chat if you want to help me :)
[10:37] <billy> mkquist: what am I thinking?  I mean menu.lst.
[10:37] <Hallag1> crdlib: So tell me why Beryl wont work and I have to edit my xorg.conf to use the vesa drivers or else all I get is a screenfull of pixelly mess then
[10:37] <mkquist> billy - fresh install, nothing done yet, except tried to reinstall grub.. same result
[10:37] <Madpilot> oyvind, is there a small blue globe icon on your top panel? That'll launch Firefox...
[10:37] <lisapc> my Nvidida 7300 suppports TurboCache up tp 512MB.  How do I turn that on?
[10:37] <Hallag1> crdlib:And the default nv gives me that pixelliness
[10:37] <pentarim> hi all
[10:37] <oyvind> no its not
[10:37] <billy> mkquist: Edgy, Dapper?
[10:37] <mkquist> Edgy
[10:37] <pentarim> anybody has info on ubuntu edgy repository with 5.1.2 php in it?
[10:37] <crdlb> Hallag1, no: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-genearic
[10:37] <pentarim>  its unbeliveable that older releases of packages arent stored somewhere
[10:38] <mkquist> billy - Edgy
[10:38] <billy> mkquist:  not sure.
[10:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, info php
[10:38] <ubotu> Package php does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[10:38] <Hallag1> crdlib: What driver to I put in my xorg.conf then?
[10:38] <pentarim> php5
[10:38] <Madpilot> oyvind, what is in your Applications->Internet menu, if not Firefox?
[10:38] <crdlb> Hallag1, "nvidia", if you run nvidia-xconfig it'll do it for you
[10:39] <Madpilot> ubotu, info php5
[10:39] <ubotu> php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.3 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[10:39] <oyvind> how can i get firefox if i dont have a internett browser?????
[10:39] <pentarim> yep, but i need 5.1.2
[10:39] <Madpilot> oyvind, Firefox is installed by default
[10:39] <oyvind> can i search for it??
[10:39] <arnina> oyvind:wget
[10:39] <oyvind> wget??
[10:39] <crdlb> oyvind, press alt+f2 , then type firefox
[10:40] <oyvind> ok
[10:40] <oyvind> thxx
[10:40] <Hallag1> crdlib: SO why hasnt this worked the first 30 [serious estimate]  Ive done it?
[10:40] <arnina> oyvind:should know the url addr first
[10:40] <skule> seems that the updater upgraded my kernel from 2.6.17-10 to 2.6.17-11 and now the nvidia modules refuses to load, any advices for me ?
[10:40] <oyvind> i dont have it
[10:41] <arnina> oyvind:then download it :wget [url addr]
[10:41] <billy> later gang.
[10:41] <pentarim> Madpilot: any ideas how to install it with apt-get?
[10:41] <crdlb> Hallag1, no idea, the wonderful people of #ubuntu+1 may have an answer
[10:41] <bubblenut> I can only access the internet if I start applications as root, if I try to run them as a normal user it doesn't recognize that there's a network there, any ideas?
[10:41] <crdlb> (but that is how you are supposed to do it)
[10:42] <latitude> skule, reinstall the nvidia driver
[10:42] <Madpilot> pentarim, the specific version of php you need? I doubt you can, there is only going to be one version of PHP 5 officially packaged for Edgy. Someone might have an unofficial repo somewhere, I guess.
[10:42] <pentarim> Madpilot: any ideas where to search for it, i googled for hours
[10:43] <pentarim> Madpilot: maybe wrong keywords :)
[10:43] <Madpilot> pentarim, no, sorry. why do you need such a specific version of php 5?
[10:43] <skule> latitude, tryed apt-get remove nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common, and the apt-get install again, but still the same
[10:43] <jeffg_work> on my edgy-i386 system, firefox 2 never gets beyond prompting for new or resumed session.  blowing away ~/.mozilla/firefox results in the same symptoms, except it hangs after the import dialog.  a brand new user account gets the same issue.  strace shows firefox-bin spinning on poll(), read(), ioctl().
[10:44] <jeffg_work> (spinning may be a poor choice of words -- there is a ~15 second delay between "spins")
[10:44] <pentarim> Madpilot: i make some development in php and debugger wants only to work with 5.1.2
[10:45] <oyvind> hi
[10:45] <PloneDude> how do i recurisively chmod a entire folder and all subfolders...
[10:45] <crdlb> PloneDude, chmod -R
[10:45] <kzm> Hi!  Trying to create a .deb, and somehow managed to get one installed in a "very bad inconsistent state".  How can I remove it?
[10:46] <arnina> anyone know which lib <linux/sys.h> requires?
[10:47] <Madpilot> pentarim, time to update your debugger ;)
[10:47] <PloneDude> crdlb: thanks dude
[10:47] <arnina> it is a bad idea programming in ubuntu,i will switch to redhat
[10:48] <crdlb> arnina, you know about apt-get build-dep right?
[10:48] <kalin> !music
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <arnina> crdlb,no,can you tell me how?
[10:48] <lisapc> jeffg_work so whats your point? :)
[10:49] <lisapc> kalila try music.com
[10:49] <crdlb> arnina, to install the build-depedencies of an app run: sudo apt-get build-dep application
[10:49] <kalin> !mp3
[10:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:49] <kalin> that's what i wanted :)
[10:49] <Dabian> lisapc : One of the reasons that Intel (currently) is better than AMD, is that they bought technology from AMD. :)
[10:50] <arnina> crdlld,how about lacking for <linux/sys.h>
[10:50] <oyvind> can anyone tell me the easyest way to get a internett browser if you dont have one installed on your computer??
[10:50] <sacater> Dabian: well the Intel is best atm, but i expect AMD will make a comeback
[10:50] <Dabian> lisapc : While I agree that Intel might be the best choice as it is, I don't think there is a reason to become religious about it .. the next CPU from AMD might change it.
[10:51] <amaan> what is the difference between 6.10 and 6.06 LTS?
[10:51] <Dabian> sacater : Right, I wouldn't be surprised either. :)
[10:51] <sacater> amaan: different versions, upgrades, new features etc
[10:51] <Dabian> amaan : 6.06 has long term support.
[10:51] <mneptok> amaan: 6.06 is supported on the desktop for 3 years, sorver 5 years
[10:51] <Dabian> amaan : Hence the LTS.
[10:51] <mneptok> *server
[10:51] <sacater> Dabian: maybe Celeron may make the best comeback :P
[10:51] <mjbrooks> oyvind: apt-get intstall firefox
[10:51] <bonee> how do i update my video card driver
[10:51] <bonee> geforce 7600
[10:52] <amaan> thanks
[10:52] <kalin> bonee: i used apt-get install nvidia-glx
[10:52] <CroX> j #ubuntu-se
[10:52] <Dabian> bonee : sudo apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[10:52] <oyvind> mjbrooks what is atp???
[10:52] <oyvind> were can i find it
[10:53] <dphk> can anyone help me?
[10:53] <mjbrooks> !apt-get | oyvind
[10:53] <ubotu> oyvind: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:54] <epl> haha, I just found the "ubuntu satanic edition"! http://parker1.co.uk/satanic/about/
[10:54] <mjbrooks> epl: does it mention AMD??    lol
[10:55] <mkquist> epl - that is classic!
[10:55] <wertigo8888> hi
[10:55] <epl> mjbrooks: haha
[10:55] <epl> mjbrooks: no it doesnt
[10:55] <wertigo8888> I've a problem with 6.10: my monitor has a too high frequency...
[10:56] <bonee> epl: it looks kewl
[10:56] <mneptok> wertigo8888: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:57] <Smurphy[ACS] > anyone knows a good source for hardened PHP Ubuntu 6.06.1 package ?? Version 4 preferably ?
[10:57] <bubblenut> how can I install KDE from Ubuntu? It doesn't appear in Add/Remove Applications
[10:57] <ablyth> gonna say it again "hi. new to (k)ubuntu - not to linux - gentoo user for 4 years. got mighty sick of comile times... is there a unstable repo or the the like so i can get not quite so bleeding edge but pretty close to packages?" little help please
[10:58] <mneptok> ablyth: stick with Main, Restricted, Universe, and Multiverse
[10:58] <oyvind> !apt-get
[10:58] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:58] <ablyth> mnoptok: ok why?
[10:58] <oyvind> !atp-get install firefox
[10:59] <mneptok> ablyth: third party repos increase the chances of instability or outright breakage
[10:59] <oyvind> is it posble to send files over this prog to another user??
[10:59] <mjbrooks> oyvind: you type "apt-get install firefox" in your terminal   not here
[10:59] <soundray> ablyth: if you're willing to help with bug reports etc., feisty is for you. Join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic please.
[10:59] <oyvind> k
[11:00] <oyvind> oyvind@cm-84:~$ !atp-get install firefox
[11:00] <oyvind> bash: !atp-get install firefox: event not found
[11:00] <oyvind> oyvind@cm-84:~$
[11:00] <mneptok> oyvind: sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:01] <mjbrooks> oyvind: without the exclamation point
[11:01] <mneptok> just like that
[11:01] <ablyth> mneptok: dont want 3rd party packages. want new ubuntu packages. like k3b 1.0. want a ubuntu recognised (doesnt have to be supported) package. happy to use/bug test  feisty but still want option to run almost latest versions of some software (without crazy compile times)
[11:01] <ablyth> mneptok: will check out #ubuntu+1 thanks
[11:01] <oyvind> oyvind@cm-84:~$ atp-get install firefox
[11:01] <oyvind> bash: atp-get: command not found
[11:01] <oyvind> oyvind@cm-84:~$
[11:01] <mneptok> oyvind: sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:01] <mneptok> oyvind: sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:01] <mneptok> oyvind: sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:01] <mneptok> oyvind: sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:01] <mneptok> just like that
[11:01] <oyvind> k
[11:01] <mneptok> just like that
[11:01] <mneptok> just like that
[11:01] <mjbrooks> lol
[11:02] <mneptok> sheesh
[11:02] <Klln10> trke bilen varm
[11:02] <oyvind> it needs a password
[11:02] <soundray> !tr | Klln10
[11:02] <ubotu> Klln10: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:02] <mneptok> !tr > Klln10
[11:02] <crdlb> oyvind, enter they password you use to log in
[11:02] <soundray> oyvind: enter your user password
[11:02] <mjbrooks> oyvind: type your passworde
[11:02] <oyvind> k
[11:04] <CroX> Anyone else having problem with Gaim crashing?
[11:04] <oyvind> i cant type in a password
[11:04] <soundray> oyvind: you can. You just don't see it.
[11:04] <mkquist> anyone using lilo instead of grub?
[11:04] <RolandB1> Hi I have Ubuntu 6.10 / ati 9250.. how can I install the drivers? a simple howto where can I find?
[11:04] <oyvind> ok but it says command not found
[11:05] <soundray> oyvind: that's because you misspelt it.
[11:05] <oyvind> no
[11:05] <soundray> oyvind: not atp, apt
[11:05] <oyvind> i have tryd 4 times now
[11:05] <oyvind> ok
[11:05] <mkquist> thats just not going well...lol
[11:05] <soundray> oyvind: trying four times wrong doesn't make it correct
[11:05] <mkquist> but ist funny
[11:06] <oyvind> thx for the help its working now :)
[11:06] <mneptok> soundray: Eclipse user?
[11:06] <mkquist> \\\wonders!!!///
[11:07] <soundray> mneptok: no.   How do I turn that on?
[11:07] <soundray> oyvind: the same place where you entered apt-get
[11:07] <oyvind> k
[11:08] <mneptok> lisapc: BIOS
[11:08] <lisapc> mneptok I prefer sudo aptitude install :)
[11:08] <mneptok> lisapc: BIOS
[11:08] <lisapc> mneptok ah ok
[11:08] <scd> hi
[11:08] <lisapc> mneptok I didnt know that
[11:08] <lisapc> mneptok thanks a lot :)
[11:08] <oyvind> its working find just as in windows hehe thx man
[11:09] <scd> can anyone help me about tvcard remotes?
[11:09] <lisapc> mneptok just turn on nvidia turbocache in my BIOS?
[11:09] <pfchen> ???
[11:09] <lisapc> scd good luck
[11:09] <pfchen> ok
[11:09] <scd> :P ty
[11:09] <lisapc> scd ;)