[13:21] <tjaalton> hi, I'm trying to create a wrapper for amdgpu-pro drivers which would just "build" the vendor provided binaries as-is. it builds fine locally, but looks like launchpad has issues uploading it https://launchpadlibrarian.net/394777016/upload_15573202_log.txt
[13:21] <tjaalton> but I don't know what that means :)
[13:23] <tjaalton> full build log https://launchpadlibrarian.net/394776989/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-amd64.amdgpu-pro_18.20-606296_BUILDING.txt.gz
[13:26] <wgrant> tjaalton: Your binary is named amdgpu-core but seems to lack a "Source: amdgpu-pro" field in its control file.
[13:26] <tjaalton> wgrant: ah, ok
[13:27] <tjaalton> that should be fixable on my end then..
[13:27] <wgrant> (or I guess it could be named something else and have an erroneous "Source: amdgpu-core" line
[13:27] <wgrant> Yes, upload errors are almost always a problem in your debian/control
[13:27] <wgrant> And are always fixable at your end
[13:28] <tjaalton> well, thing is that I have a bunch of debs with their own control files embedded in.. that's the problem I think. guess there's no way around of repacking them..
[13:28] <tjaalton> *having to repackage them
[13:29] <wgrant> Oh, by "binaries" you mean "binary packages" rather than blobs, I see
[13:29] <tjaalton> yeah
[13:31] <tjaalton> ok, needs some more work..
[16:03] <tjaalton> bah, looks like the binary must be of the same version as source
[16:07] <cjwatson> Shouldn't
[16:07] <cjwatson> There are definitely cases in the archive where that doesn't hold
[16:07] <tjaalton> okay
[16:07] <tjaalton> dunno what I'm doing wrong..
[16:08] <tjaalton> is there an example I could have a look at?
[16:10] <wgrant> tjaalton: If the version differs, the Source field needs to declare the version as well
[16:10] <wgrant> Source: foo (1.2.3)
[16:10] <wgrant> Metapackages like gcc-defaults do that a lot
[16:10] <tjaalton> ahh
[16:11] <wgrant> Actually -defaults might not do that
[16:12] <wgrant> https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-source
[16:12] <wgrant> "In a binary package control file or a .changes file, the source package name may be followed by a version number in parentheses. [4] This version number may be omitted (and is, by dpkg-gencontrol) if it has the same value as the Version field of the binary package in question. The field itself may be omitted from a binary package control file when the source package has the same name and version as the
[16:12] <wgrant> binary package."
[16:13] <tjaalton> cool, thanks
[20:35] <dannf> is there some canonical sample python code for receiving LP webhooks?
[20:48] <acheronuk> triggering what?
[20:53] <wgrant> Right, LP just does a pretty simple HTTP post
[20:53] <wgrant> There's nothing really LP-specific about it
[22:14] <jeremy31> More spam at answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[22:19] <wgrant> jeremy31: I've removed it.
[22:19] <jeremy31> thanks
[22:20] <jeremy31> Looks like some still there from 10/24
[22:21] <jeremy31> 675522, 675526, 675527 and 675528
[22:23] <wgrant> Fixed.


[01:06] <Guest8957> &cDesA#
[03:26] <pickanick>  Q: How can one check what 'apt autoremove' will remove?  man apt says on apt autoremove , "You should check that the list does not include applications you have grown to like even though they were once installed just as a dependency of another package."  but does not say how.
[03:30] <rbox> it tells you what its goint to do...
[03:33] <tsimpson> pickanick: you can add "--simulate" to the command to see what it will do without it actually doing anything
[03:55] <JollyRgrs> running 22.04 having crashes since going to kernel 5.15.0-100 (happened during apt upgrade). not sure how to remove it as any attempt I try via apt says to run dpkg --configure -a (which crashes when trying to build the images) and dpkg --purge for the kernel says it can't b/c of dependency issues (I booted to kernel 5.15.0-97 to try and remove 100)
[03:59] <JanC> pickanick: by default 'apt' tells you what it's going to add/remove and asks for confirmation
[04:00] <preach> not always
[04:00] <preach> sometimes apt install will not ask
[04:01] <JanC> when it only installs exactly what you asked for (no dependencies or other additional changes)
[04:06] <JollyRgrs> JanC: yes it does ask that... but once it starts and then crashes... it wants dpkg to do the --configure -a to fix it. that's where i'm at
[04:07] <pickanick> tsimpson: thanks I didn't know that
[04:09] <pickanick> JanC: preach:  yes apt does not always ask
[04:14] <preach> apt -f
[05:16] <pagios> hiiii
[05:19] <rusteh> oopsie!
[08:08] <Bergerag> hellou
[08:08] <Bergerag> can you say what is wrong with this
[08:08] <Bergerag> scp root@ip_address:~/target_file.*
[08:36] <geirha> missing an argument
[08:36] <geirha> needs at least one source argument and one destination argument
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:01] <kerio_> lu
[13:01] <kerio_> hello
[14:22] <Sadikkola> disks
[14:23] <Sadikkola> data recovery
[14:23] <leftyfb> Sadikkola: can we help you with something?
[14:26] <Sadikkola> just to understand how chat works.
[14:26] <leftyfb> Sadikkola: this is an Ubuntu support channel
[14:26] <leftyfb> Sadikkola: if you're just looking to chat, feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:32] <Sadikkola> i hv some questions about Lubuntu but will come back later, thanks
[14:47] <kubast2> Any chance will see bfq i/o scheduler set as default in 24.04? I'm aware that 64 deep ncq nvme queues exist, but they don't always behave as well as having an i/o scheduler on top of ncq queue.
[14:48] <leftyfb> !next | kubast2
[17:53] <|Aspire|> hi, anyone can lend me a hand with a webcam issue?
[17:56] <bprompt> !ask | |Aspire|
[18:14] <GSMarquis> How do I set the login screen to have same scale 200% as my workspace?
[18:38] <|Aspire|> hi
[18:39] <|Aspire|> webcam led is green but black screen in cheese and other applications
[18:39] <|Aspire|> what can I do?
[18:40] <leftyfb> |Aspire|: did you try going into the cheese preferences and selecting the appropriate Device?
[18:40] <leftyfb> also, is this a usb webcam or one built into a laptop?
[18:41] <|Aspire|> yes, I have 2 cams, integrated and USB
[18:41] <bprompt> |Aspire|: is possible the app "cheese" is looking at the wrong camera, check settings
[18:41] <|Aspire|> the weird thing is that both cams are listed twice, which made me wonder whether they are mounted twice
[18:41] <bprompt> possibly looking at the one that's off
[18:41] <leftyfb> |Aspire|: what is the model number?
[18:41] <|Aspire|> causing a lock of sorts
[18:42] <|Aspire|> bprompt: I checked all of them and reduced the resolution, but to no avail
[18:43] <|Aspire|> leftyfb: I'm not sure regarding the model details
[18:43] <leftyfb> |Aspire|: lsusb
[18:43] <|Aspire|> the usb cam is DZ-X11
[18:44] <|Aspire|> this is the USB cam: Microdia Camera VR
[18:45] <|Aspire|> This should be the integrated one: Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTS5129 Card Reader Controller
[18:45] <|Aspire|> those were the details I got for running LSUSB
[18:48] <|Aspire|> what else can I do?
[18:49] <|Aspire|> I spend most of lastnight googling for some answer, but to no ...
[18:49] <bprompt> hmmm the suspect would be drivers
[18:50] <ioria> |Aspire|, can you paste the lsusb output ?   lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:50] <bprompt> |Aspire|: yeah,  is simpler if we look at the output :|
[18:51] <|Aspire|> https://termbin.com/nazh
[18:52] <|Aspire|> https://termbin.com/5fo3
[18:53] <|Aspire|> I've added ls -l /dev/video*  - just so to make sure its not a permissions issue
[18:55] <ioria> |Aspire|, probably you're out of luck... but what are the  other applications you tried ?
[18:56] <|Aspire|> kamoso
[18:57] <ioria> |Aspire|, install guvcview and (just to be sure) relogin in the Xorg session (not wayland)
[18:57] <|Aspire|> I tried the webcam on another laptop which worked out of the box, no issues
[18:57] <bprompt> |Aspire|: did it work in Kamoso?
[18:58] <|Aspire|> bprompt: nope, same issue
[18:58] <bprompt> |Aspire|: from the lsusb output, seems the "Microdia VR" is the onboard webcam
[19:00] <|Aspire|> bprompt: thats odd
[19:01] <|Aspire|> ioria: guvcview gavemethis error: 4L2_CORE: (VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such devi
[19:02] <|Aspire|> ioria: what do you mean login to Xorg?
[19:03] <ioria> |Aspire|, you log out, get to the login screen, click the clog and select Ubuntu on Xorg
[19:03] <|Aspire|> bprompt: I'm confident that this is the external USB CAM because when I unplugg it and run LSUSB it no longer shows
[19:03] <|Aspire|> ioria: ok, will try it
[19:04] <bprompt> |Aspire|: hmmmm, I checked on the Chicony one, and they seem to only make "usb webcams"
[19:14] <|Aspire|> logged back in using Xorg
[19:15] <|Aspire|> ioria: same issue though
[19:15] <ioria> |Aspire|, what's you kernel ? uname -r
[19:15] <ioria> *your
[19:16] <|Aspire|> V4L2_CORE: Could not grab image (select timeout): Resource temporarily unavailable
[19:16] <|Aspire|> ioria: 6.5.0-25-generic
[19:18] <ioria> |Aspire|, uvcdynctrl -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:20] <|Aspire|> ioria: https://termbin.com/993f
[19:23] <ioria> |Aspire|, cat cat /var/log/uvcdynctrl-udev.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:24] <ioria> |Aspire|, sorry, cat /var/log/uvcdynctrl-udev.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:25] <|Aspire|> https://termbin.com/dwkd
[19:32] <ioria> |Aspire|, did you select the right output in guvcview ?
[19:35] <|Aspire|> ioria: I tried all 4 options and none of them resulted in success
[19:36] <ioria> |Aspire|, no idea then; unplug it, plug it again and check 'dmesg | tail'
[19:39] <|Aspire|> it looks like the USB device dis/connected
[19:40] <|Aspire|> do you want to see the output?
[19:42] <|Aspire|> https://termbin.com/77m3
[19:45] <|Aspire|> what about the integrated cam, doesn't it seem odd that both are having the same issue?
[19:48] <ioria> |Aspire|, no idea sy
[19:49] <ioria> |Aspire|, i would try on older kernel
[19:49] <|Aspire|> what aboutthe error messages
[19:49] <|Aspire|> https://termbin.com/dwkd
[19:50] <|Aspire|> [libwebcam] Invalid or unsupported V4L2 control encountered: ctrl_id = 0x009A0001, name = 'Camera Controls'
[19:50] <|Aspire|> what does that mean?
[19:58] <|Aspire|> ioria: https://termbin.com/33xz
[19:58] <|Aspire|> uvcdynctrl --list | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:04] <younder> VFL2 is Video For Linux. Looks like you can't load a driver for that device.
[20:04] <|Aspire|> hi younder, thanks for your reply, what makes you say that,
[20:06] <younder> Normally you have plug and play. It checks the id and automatically loads the driver, but here the control is 'unsupported'. Which I presume means it is not in it's database.
[20:07] <younder> Had a similar problem with some Zed stereo cameras.
[20:08] <|Aspire|> https://askubuntu.com/questions/958987/how-to-install-webcam-camera-driver-on-ubuntu-17-04-no-device-found
[20:08] <|Aspire|> according to that link it says drivers are missin, cheese will report no devicefound
[20:09] <|Aspire|> but in my case I'm getting just a black screen
[20:11] <|Aspire|> younder: did you resolve your issue wth Zed stereo? and if so, how?
[20:12] <younder> No, they never worked properly :(
[20:13] <younder> You are dependent on proprietary drivers from the vendor. And when they don't work you are stuck. You could try contacting them..
[20:16] <|Aspire|> younder: I had trouble on windows, and was hoping it would work on linux, :))) looks like a dead end then
[20:22] <|Aspire|> I wonder whether its configuration though,
[20:22] <|Aspire|> I got this from https://webcamtests.com/ -During testing, there were errors due to which it is impossible to determine some parameters of your web camera. Reload the page and try again.
[20:23] <|Aspire|> Parameters, thats configuration right
[20:43] <Zed> wasn't  me
[21:28] <yannouri> |Aspire|> Can you provide us with more information, so we can help you? Like the type of camera
[21:31] <bprompt> yannouri: he kinda  left
[21:34] <yannouri> bprompt: Thanks
[22:37] <pflanze> Hi. I'm running a set of package installations on a 23.10 64-bit VPS. With many packages, the installation process hangs on "Setting up" for 1.5 minutes (or 10 seconds for some other packages).
[22:37] <pflanze> Load is almost 0, network is fine (a seprate ssh login is working just fine).
[22:38] <pflanze> I've rebooted the server, and am running "dpkg --configure -a" now to let it finish, still same problem.
[22:38] <pflanze> e.g. "Adding saned group and user..." is blocking, so was "Setting up ipp-usb", "Setting up usbmuxd", "Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/sockets.target.wants/avahi-daemon.socket → /lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.socket.", and many more
[22:39] <pflanze> Package installations have been ongoing for half an hour now.
[22:40] <pflanze> Hanging: "==> Installing the firefox snap"
[22:41] <pflanze> Before I rebooted, "top" did also hang. Since I rebooted, that one doesn't hang anymore.
[22:41] <pflanze> DNS resolution works fine
[22:42] <pflanze> (Now it has finished.)
[22:43] <pflanze> But I'll have to install more Ubuntu servers that way, so, still, what was causing this?
[22:45] <pflanze> dmesg has many "unity-greeter[1720] trap int3 ip:74175171ca0d sp:7ffd4ecb2080 error:0 in libglib-2.0.so.0.7800.0[7417516d8000+9a000]" messages (others with different numbers)


[01:34] <yofel> ScottK: can you take a look at bug 686319 when you get the time? It works for the things I tested and scribus upstream offers pretty much the same packages in their archive for maverick and lucid.
[01:40] <ScottK> yofel: You need to say in the bug it works.  Did it need any changes to work on Lucid/Maverick?
[01:41] <ScottK> yofel: Also what version of libpodofo?
[01:41] <yofel> I'll put the note on the bug, as for libpodofo - the one that maverick/natty currently has
[01:44] <yofel> updated
[01:46] <ScottK> yofel: Works for you on both Lucid and Maverick?
[01:46] <yofel> yes
[01:46] <ScottK> (need to be explicit in the bug)
[01:51] <yofel> updated
[02:01] <ScottK> yofel: Approved.
[02:01] <yofel> thanks
[08:44] <seaLne> agateau: oops looking into it
[08:44] <agateau> seaLne: ? you sure I was the one you wanted to answer?
[08:45] <agateau> seaLne: oh nevermind
[08:45] <agateau> seaLne: just didn't know your nick :)
[08:45] <agateau> seaLne: thanks for looking at it
[09:04] <bambee> morning
[09:05] <Riddell> hi bambee
[09:44] <Riddell> free ownCloud trial! http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4391
[09:46] <bambee> nice
[09:47] <Riddell> bambee: you also get a starring mention in my blog :)
[09:49] <bambee> huhu :D
[09:49] <bambee> thanks ;)
[09:51] <bambee> Riddell: btw could you re-test language-selector and confirm that: it crashes on install/uninstall and with the popup (half installed language) ?
[09:52] <bambee> just to know if the crash is reproducible or not
[09:53] <bambee> ps: I did not touch the code, so the crash is not my fault
[10:04] <Riddell> bambee: my assumption is that the crash is caused by the kcontrol module not being fully created
[10:04] <Riddell> my guess is if the dialog was run after the kcontrol module was created it wouldn't crash
[10:07] <bambee> Riddell: when you install/uninstall something the kcontrol module is fully created
[10:08] <Quintasan> \o
[10:08] <Riddell> bambee: even from that dialogue?
[10:08] <Riddell> bambee: it still crashes
[10:10] <bambee> mhhhh
[10:11] <bambee> I don't think so, I tested yesterday without any threads in commit() and it works just fine
[10:11] <bambee> same thing for install and uninstall
[10:12] <bambee> I meant if it was caused by the kcontrol module not being fully created, the crash would be still there
[10:13] <bambee> in these three cases: the message is the same "PyEval_AcquireThread: non-NULL old thread state"
[10:14] <bambee> it's very strange :\
[10:15] <Riddell> bambee: feature freeze is on thursday, shall I merge this now to get it in before then, in the hope we fix the crash bug before release?
[10:18] <bambee> the crash will be fixed before release, don't worry ;)
[10:35] <bambee> Riddell: workaround http://paste.ubuntu.com/570500/  => without threads it works ;)
[10:36] <bambee> problem:  qcoreapplication::processEvents() it's not called anymore
[10:36] <bambee> (but the window is disabled using setEnabled(false) before installing something so it's so bad ?)
[10:37] <Riddell> if it works and the user experience is decent then that's fine
[10:40] <bambee> It is
[10:40] <bambee> (at least in my opinion)
[10:47] <Riddell> bambee: groovy, commit and i'll merge
[10:51] <bambee> it's possible to fix what you asked me later ? (drop install/uninstall button, use "apply" button instead) I meant... it's not finished yet
[10:52] <Riddell> bambee: yes, that's a bug
[10:52] <bambee> ok
[10:54] <Riddell> or you can fix that and I'll merge in, as long as it's before Thursday :)
[11:12] <bambee> lunch time, I'll commit later
[11:17] <Riddell> no porn uploaded to owncloud free trial yet, although there is a folder called Iwasabletochangethepasswordthiswillnotendwellormaybeitwill
[11:17] <Riddell> and a picture of someone's tummy
[11:18] <Riddell> conclusion: planet ubuntu and kde readers are cheeky but not untrustworthy
[11:18] <Tm_T> kids are sleeping/school ...
[11:19] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: firefox is clashing with our firefox-installer on the .desktop files, do you know what the solution to that is?
[11:19] <apachelogger> good lawd
[11:19] <Riddell> have they dropped a replaces?
[11:19] <apachelogger> qtlanguageselector is horrible
[11:19]  * apachelogger needs to go throw up
[11:20] <Riddell> morning apachelogger
[11:20] <apachelogger> Riddell: talk to micah about the firefox clash
[11:20] <apachelogger> firefox needs the replaces not the installer
[11:20] <apachelogger> Riddell: and good morning to you :)
[11:22] <debfx> Riddell: bug #717666
[11:24] <Riddell> thanks debfx, I tagged and milestoned the bug
[11:29] <debfx> new synaptiks version is still blocked by the pyudev MIR :(
[11:30] <Riddell> debfx: bug number?
[11:30] <debfx> Riddell: Bug #718774
[11:32] <Riddell> debfx: presumably new synaptiks would be considered new features so we need it in by feature freeze
[11:32] <Riddell> so I'll poke mterry to hurry up and if he doesn't I'll just promote it
[11:59] <debfx> Riddell: ok, can you upload synaptiks once pyudev is in main?
[11:59] <debfx> http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/synaptiks_0.5.2-0ubuntu1.dsc
[12:06] <Riddell> debfx: will do
[12:31] <Riddell> bambee: good lunch?
[12:31] <bambee> yes :)
[12:37] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what happened to the neon announce?
[12:40] <yofel_> IIRC waiting for some usable banner from sheytan, should be done by the end of the week he said
[12:41] <Riddell> ok
[12:42] <bambee> Riddell: committed ;)
[12:42] <bambee> crashes disappeared
[12:46] <Riddell> bambee: yay!
[13:01] <bambee> Riddell: :)
[13:49] <jussi> Riddell: your server seems to be overloaded :P (owncloud not loading here)
[13:50] <Riddell> jussi: I took it down, someone changed the password, moved to http://50-56-71-173.static.cloud-ips.com/owncloud/
[13:51] <jussi> ahh
[14:20] <felimwhiteley_> anyone else seeing choqok throwing up "invalid signatures" (Version 1.0 Beta2 (0.9.85)) Maverick with 4.6 ppa enabled.. StatusNet key expired or something?
[14:30] <debfx> what's ~bugbot and why does it add kubuntu tags to bug reports?
[14:31] <yofel> last person I asked that said that belonged to bryceh
[14:31] <steveire> Riddell: Sorry to visit https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/680088 again, but I had a thought - Can upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04 and not hit the upgrade conflict?
[14:32] <yofel> you can't upgrade directly from 10.04 to 11.04 using update manager
[14:33] <Riddell> steveire: that's not a supported upgrade method, anything could go wrong
[14:36] <steveire> Hmm. Ok, I'll just clean install next week then and be done with it
[14:37] <bambee> steveire: what about 10.04 => 10.10 => 11.04 ?
[14:37] <bambee> (two upgrades instead of one)
[14:38] <yofel> steveire: you *can* do that if you edit sources list by hand and use apt-get/aptitude, but that's even more unsupported
[15:07] <Riddell> ScottK: py3dns-3.0.0/DNS/.Base.py.swp looks a bit ugly
[15:32] <Riddell> ScottK: W: python-pyclamav: spelling-error-in-changelog pacakge package
[15:47] <ScottK> Riddell: Yeah.  Upstream screwed and and rolled the tarball with a file open (that would be me).  It doesn't hurt anything.
[15:48] <ScottK> Riddell: I'll fix pyclamav in the next upload.
[15:48] <ScottK> (I made the same mistake in Debian)
[15:49] <ScottK> In any case the .swp doesn't get installed in the binary.
[15:50] <Riddell> ScottK: just use emacs :)
[15:50] <ScottK> Riddell: Kubuntu is my operating system.  I just need an editor.
[16:21] <shadeslayer> whaddup \o
[16:22] <shadeslayer> hmm
[16:23] <Riddell> "whaddup"  I'll need to read up on my Hindi before I go to India
[16:39] <shadeslayer> haha :P
[16:41] <Daskreech> बियर? नि: शुल्क? :Riddell
[16:42] <tazz> Daskreech, you just wrote the word "beer" in devnagri.
[16:43] <tazz> Daskreech, besides Riddell wants mango lassi.
[16:43] <Daskreech> tazz: Ha ha ok :)
[16:44] <shadeslayer> lul
[16:55] <Riddell> hmm, rekonq doesn't like al jazeera
[16:55] <Riddell> crashes after a while
[16:55] <Riddell> maybe it is an agent of Gadaffi
[16:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: backtrace plz
[16:59] <shadeslayer> or better, report it to bugzilla :)
[16:59] <shadeslayer> .... this begs the question, what are you doing on al jazeera ? O_O
[16:59] <shadeslayer> do they use Kubuntu?
[17:00] <Riddell> I expect it's a flash issue
[17:00] <shadeslayer> ah ...
[17:00] <Riddell> watching Gadaffi getting desperate
[17:00] <shadeslayer> stupid flash
[17:05] <afiestas> shadeslayer: assistant is still crashing
[17:05] <shadeslayer> afiestas: huh?
[17:05] <shadeslayer> i don't get the context :)
[17:06] <afiestas> shadeslayer: Qt assistant is still crashing with the same backtrace (something about JS in webkit)
[17:07] <shadeslayer> hmm ..
[17:07] <shadeslayer> afiestas: poke qt-creator / qtwebkit dev's
[17:07] <afiestas> shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/570666/
[17:07] <shadeslayer> *click
[17:08] <afiestas> weeks ago I had that crash from everything using QtWebkit (amarok, rekonq, ...)
[17:08] <shadeslayer> quite possible we need new qtwebkit
[17:08] <afiestas> now only assistant seems to be affected
[17:10] <debfx> afiestas: try: echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory
[17:13] <afiestas> debfx: working
[17:15] <debfx> we really should update qtwebkit
[17:16] <debfx> Riddell: I can't find the weekly qtwebkit tarballs. Do you know where they are?
[17:16] <Riddell> debfx: they stopped being made a while ago, you just need to get a git snapshot now
[17:19] <debfx> let's see if gitorious can create a snapshot
[17:20] <debfx> 334 MB, that can't be right
[17:21] <Riddell> could be right, without history
[17:22] <debfx> the current tarball is ~30MB
[17:22] <Riddell> that's with all the unnecessary stuff removed
[17:23] <Riddell> there's a release script somewhere, although you can also just remove directories to match the current one
[17:23] <Riddell> debfx: needing a new snapshot for a reason?
[17:23] <Quintasan> Riddell: Do we need to have something packaged?
[17:24]  * Quintasan is slightly bored
[17:24] <Riddell> Quintasan: koffice, although it's broken
[17:24] <debfx> Riddell: bug #710582 but they haven't even backported the patch to the 2.1 release branch
[17:24] <Riddell> debfx: mm right
[17:26] <Quintasan> Riddell: mmkay, I could give it a try but if it's broken isnt it better to wait for something that works?
[17:26] <Riddell> Quintasan: what's your e-mail?   I can send you the patch
[17:27] <Quintasan> Riddell<EMAIL_ADDRESS>:)
[17:27] <Quintasan> Riddell: source is at ktown?
[17:27] <Riddell> that's a cool e-mail
[17:27] <Quintasan> Riddell: You should have one too, shouldn't you?
[17:27] <Riddell> Quintasan: e-mailed bounced
[17:27] <debfx> Quintasan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmobility/+bug/676512/comments/5 if Riddell isn't working on it
[17:27] <Riddell> I'm not
[17:30] <Quintasan> debfx: We have to make sure it passess tests phase?
[17:31] <Quintasan> Riddell: how fast is the connection to an EC2 machine?
[17:31] <Riddell> Quintasan: EC2, how old fashioned?  dunno, I use rackspace now
[17:31] <Quintasan> lol
[17:31] <Quintasan> whatever
[17:31] <debfx> Quintasan: yes, currently the tests aren't built at all
[17:32] <Riddell> Quintasan: why are you needing a machine?
[17:32] <Quintasan> Riddell: How long would it take to upload 25mb from there?
[17:32] <Riddell> seconds
[17:33] <Quintasan> ...
[17:33] <Quintasan> Cool
[17:33]  * Quintasan wishes he could have better internets here
[17:39] <debfx> Riddell: do we still need this patch? http://paste.kde.org/5605/
[17:40] <Riddell> debfx: I don't know
[17:49] <Quintasan> urgh
[17:50] <Quintasan> tst_qdeclarativefeedback.cpp:42:19: fatal error: qtest.h: No such file or directory
[17:50] <Quintasan> debfx: That's what Michael reported but I am not sure how we're going to make it work
[17:51] <debfx> Quintasan: patching the build system presumably
[17:56] <Quintasan> hmm
[17:59] <bambee> Riddell: changes to language-selector done :)
[17:59] <bambee> I'll commit
[17:59] <Quintasan> kubotu: order cookies for bambee
[17:59]  * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to bambee.
[18:01]  * bambee eats everything
[18:01] <bambee> ;)
[18:01] <debfx> ok I have no idea which qtwebkit commit to backport
[18:02] <rbelem> Riddell: do you know if is there a way to send notifications via dbus?
[18:02] <bambee> you asked me to bump using dch -i... I suppose that I must bump to 0.14 ? (all LanguageSelector.qt have changed...)
[18:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yes there is
[18:02] <shadeslayer> uh
[18:02] <shadeslayer> rbelem: iirc there is
[18:02] <rbelem> shadeslayer: do you know how?
[18:03] <shadeslayer> gimme a second :)
[18:03] <rbelem> shadeslayer: i was trying org.freedesktop.Notifications.Notify
[18:03] <rbelem> shadeslayer: but it did not work
[18:03] <shadeslayer> full command?
[18:03] <bambee> rbelem: try  qdbus org.freedesktop.Notifications
[18:04] <bambee> it will list all remote objects
[18:04] <bambee> then it can list all interfaces too :)
[18:04] <rbelem> dbus-send --session --dest=org.freedesktop.Notifications /org/freedesktop/Notifications org.freedesktop.Notifications.Notify string:"" uint32:0 string:"" string:"teste" string:"teste" array:string:"" dict:string:string:"" int32:3000
[18:04] <rbelem> bambee: i was using that to find the interfaces :-)
[18:05] <bambee> ok
[18:05] <bambee> so why don't use it to make the call ?
[18:05] <rbelem> bambee: it is not working :'(
[18:05] <bambee> (it's simpler, imho)
[18:06] <bambee> arff
[18:06] <rbelem> shadeslayer: ^
[18:06] <Quintasan> debfx: They (tests) are most likely broken, I supplied /usr/include/qt4/QtTest/ to INCLUDES but well
[18:07] <Quintasan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/570702
[18:08] <bambee> Riddell: sorry my question was stupid... all bumps increase minor version in this changelog xD
[18:10] <shadeslayer> rbelem: yeah i can't find the docs on techbase as well
[18:11] <shadeslayer> oh oh
[18:11]  * shadeslayer greps Quassel
[18:14] <shadeslayer> rbelem: _notificationsClient = new org::freedesktop::Notifications("org.freedesktop.Notifications", "/org/freedesktop/Notifications",
[18:14] <shadeslayer>                                                              QDBusConnection::sessionBus(), this);
[18:14] <shadeslayer> quassel  has that
[18:14] <debfx> Quintasan: it's missing a -lQtTest
[18:15] <rbelem> shadeslayer: it is not working for me via cmd line
[18:16] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:29] <rbelem> shadeslayer: it works with python
[18:29] <shadeslayer> ugh
[18:29] <rbelem> shadeslayer: but with dbus-send it does not
[18:32] <Quintasan> rbelem: >works with python, <--- Python...works? Does not compute
[18:54] <rbelem> Quintasan: :-P
[18:54] <rbelem> :-D
[18:54] <Quintasan> WHAT ON EARTH
[18:54] <Quintasan> debfx: ping
[18:55] <debfx> Quintasan: pong
[18:55] <Quintasan> debfx: I got the tests to run, and well, they pass but there is something bugging me, w8 log is uploading...
[18:56] <Quintasan> long log is long
[18:56] <Quintasan> ああああああああああああああああああああああああああ
[18:56] <Quintasan> oops
[18:56] <Quintasan> wrong window
[18:57] <txwikinger> Quintasan: you play to much Mahjongg
[18:58] <Quintasan> txwikinger: are you talking about the 4 player game or the crappy american one?
[18:58] <txwikinger> No idea.. I am talking about あ
[18:59] <Quintasan> oh
[18:59] <Quintasan> txwikinger: Well, I play a lot of mahjongg but あ's are not part of it :P
[18:59] <txwikinger> Quintasan: Well.. something looking very similar is :p
[19:00] <Quintasan> debfx: http://paste.kde.org/5613   <-- warning: log is damn big, somehow scroll to line 2397 and look at the magic
[19:00] <Quintasan> debfx: line 5398*
[19:02] <bambee> Riddell: committed, ready to merge :)
[19:02] <debfx> Quintasan: hm, you might need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to wherever the libs are during the build
[19:03] <bambee> nevertheless, take your time it can wait until tomorrow ;)
[19:05] <Quintasan> damn it, I have no idea where the hell it puts it's libs
[19:09] <bambee> http://blip.tv/file/4790125 :D
[19:10] <debfx> Quintasan: maybe LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$(abspath lib)
[19:14] <debfx> Quintasan: I wonder why these errors don't fail the build
[19:14] <Quintasan> yeah
[19:14] <Quintasan> magic
[19:22] <debfx> Quintasan: you could try adding "set -e" at  the top of rununittests.sh
[19:24] <debfx> though that makes the script abort after the first failing test which is not ideal
[19:26] <Quintasan> debfx: set -e before #!/bin/bash or right after it?
[19:26] <debfx> after
[19:32] <Quintasan> it didnt fail
[19:35] <Quintasan> nvm
[19:35] <Quintasan> I didnt enable tests in the first place
[19:43] <Quintasan> debfx: yay, got it to fails at some database magic
[19:44] <Quintasan> hmm QSQLITE not loaded
[19:45] <Quintasan> debfx, Riddell: qtmobility has to pass all tests to get a MIR?
[19:46] <Riddell> Quintasan: a failed test would suggest a bug of some sort
[19:48] <Quintasan> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/570739/
[19:48] <debfx> Quintasan: maybe libqt4-sql-sqlite isn't installed?
[19:48] <Quintasan> well. That's what I got so far
[19:49] <Quintasan> There are some tests that trigger some nasty stuff and result in core dups
[19:49] <Quintasan> dumps*
[19:50] <Riddell> hmm
[19:50] <Riddell> try it with libqt4-sql-sqlite installed for the sqlite issues
[19:50] <Riddell> then I guess try and find an upstream to comment
[19:51] <Riddell> fairly often I've had upstreams go "why are you running the test suite, it's only intended for us" which does defeat the point of a test suite but gets us out of having to include it in the packaging
[20:00] <Quintasan> Riddell: Cool, bugging #qt-mobility as we speak
[20:01] <Riddell> Quintasan: the developers are all australian so they may not wake up for a couple of hours
[20:02] <Quintasan> hmm, looks like a sleepless night then
[20:02] <Quintasan> Riddell: I have some stuff to do anyways so I won't get bored :P
[20:52] <apachelogger> qtmobility ftw
[20:53] <apachelogger> Riddell: I suppose they get taken over by intel engineers
[23:57] <Riddell> anyone awake?
[23:58] <yofel> hm?