[00:05] <muji8u> any1 here play wow?
[00:08] <EvilResistance> !offtopic | muji8u
[00:09] <muji8u> my b, i was gonna ask if they knew how to install wow in kubuntu
[00:09] <EvilResistance> muji8u, ah
[00:09] <muji8u> yes..... so do u?
[00:09] <EvilResistance> muji8u, i think you'd need wine or something, unless WoW has a Linux version
[00:09] <muji8u> there is no linux version i have wine, i got it to  work, i jsut have fps issues
[00:14] <pillboxing> frogonwheels, that seems to copy the file to the local computer first
[00:22] <EvilResistance> muji8u, i think you're not the only one there, i've seen other complaints about that too
[00:22] <EvilResistance> i dont think there's much you can do about it though
[00:22] <muji8u> well i think i know whats going on
[00:23] <muji8u> its prob like an energy saving thing
[00:23] <muji8u> i posted this on wow forums so im just copying/pasting instead of writing it again: well i switched to opengl, and it seems that when first it was at low, fps was at 30, made it go higher, and it dropped to like 20 but than it rose back to 30. happened all the way to high, prob like a energy saving thing thats part of the driver
[00:29] <muji8u> how do u make shortcuts in kubuntu?
[00:29] <ybit> hi muji8u
[00:30] <muji8u> hello ybit
[00:30] <ybit> you want a shortcut in the folder view?
[00:30] <ybit> the folder view on the desktop
[00:30] <muji8u> yea
[00:30] <muji8u> kinda, just a shortcut of a file
[00:31] <ybit> right click
[00:31] <muji8u> uh huh
[00:31] <ybit> create new -> link to basic link to file or directory
[00:31] <ybit> er
[00:31] <ybit> basic link to file or directory
[00:32] <pillboxing> is there a wway to mount a network share from within dolphin
[00:32] <ybit> pillboxing: that i've never tried
[00:32] <muji8u> nice, i see it
[00:32] <muji8u> thanks
[00:32] <ybit> np
[00:32] <ybit> shameless plug before watching this vid on conciousness...
[00:33] <ybit> #kde-usa has been made available for the american kde community
[00:33] <pillboxing> Ican't find a way to mount it otherwise, was hoping there would be a way to do it from a gui><
[00:33]  * ybit steps away and watches christof koch drone on
[00:34] <pillboxing> can't find any info on syntax for fstab, or a guide to the console command]
[00:35] <ybit> pillboxing: someone in #dolphin might know
[00:36] <pillboxing> ty ybit
[00:36] <ybit> np gl
[00:36] <pillboxing> 0.o
[00:36] <pillboxing> cannot join "#dolphin" requires keyword?
[00:38] <ybit> strange
[00:38] <ybit> same probleem here
[00:38] <ybit> i know it existed at some point..
[02:08] <danimal> o
[02:40] <sluckxz> one / about one hour headache
[03:32] <hanasaki> any tablets that run kubuntu and support all the stuff like touchscreen and pinching the gui?
[04:22] <pjn_oz> Hi guys, just hit a snag with 12.02.  I just logged out and now when I try and log back in, the system dies after kdm goes away.  The blueish screen but thats it, no icons coming and going, no login.  Any ideas on how to recover this?
[04:25] <pjn_oz> that should have been 12.04 naturally
[04:30] <sluckxz> kde has a failsafe login as well i think.  you might try that.
[04:32] <syop> question is every body having problems with the new kubuntu
[04:34] <sluckxz> im running 11.10 with 4.8.1.  id say its the most stable 4.x release so far.
[04:34] <pjn_oz> I tried failsafe but screen pops then back to kdm
[04:39] <sluckxz> you might get something useful with cat ~/.xsession-errors
[04:39] <pjn_oz> .xsession-errors has lots of soprano errors in it, could that be it?
[04:40] <sluckxz> i got those too
[04:41] <pjn_oz> ok.. thats about all there is in there.
[04:41] <sluckxz> i would rename ~./kde and see if you boot.
[04:41] <pjn_oz> tried that, and .kderc  no change
[04:41] <sluckxz> ~/.kde
[04:42] <sluckxz> what do you get from dmesg when it hangs
[04:45] <pjn_oz> no errors.  Im wondering if its an X thing. The system is fine in text mode. How do I kill kde from the command line?
[04:50] <sluckxz> sudo stop kdm
[04:55] <pjn_oz> ok stop kdm, startx results in a blank screen
[05:10] <nathanielfirst> hello
[05:10] <nathanielfirst> does anyone know why firestarter would have package dependancy issues with almost anything i try to install using kpackage kit?
[05:11] <nathanielfirst> there's no way it really dissallows all these
[05:50] <gubbel>  hi there! i'm having problems compiling ultrastar-dx-svn and the developer told me, it's best if i try just to just ffmpeg headers up to 0.6xxx. I want to remove those I have currently installed. But what package should I install? I searched, but I only find libavc* packages. don't know which one is a 0.6xxx one. Can anybody tell me? (http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ffmpeg&searchon=names&exact=1&suite=all&section=all)
[06:57] <jameslordhz> hi
[06:57] <jameslordhz> y
[06:57] <jameslordhz> ls
[06:57] <jameslordhz> ls
[06:57] <jameslordhz> ls
[06:57] <FloodBotK1> jameslordhz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:58] <jameslordhz> ls
[06:58] <jameslordhz> hello
[06:58] <jameslordhz> ls
[06:58] <jameslordhz> ls
[06:58] <Tm_T> jameslordhz: please stop
[06:58] <jameslordhz> what's wrong?
[06:58] <jameslordhz> hi
[06:58] <jameslordhz> ...
[06:59] <jameslordhz> oh no
[07:01] <Tm_T> jameslordhz: this is Kubuntu support channel, a place where support is provided for Kubuntu, we like to keep the channel in topic, so repeating something here isn't going to make look you good
[07:02] <Tm_T> ...now I'm not making full sense, more coffee is needed
[07:04] <ubuntu> Hey can anyone help at all?
[07:04] <bazhang> with?
[07:04] <ubuntu> I have a dual booted setup with xubuntu and windows 7 but I want to install kubuntu over the xubuntu partition
[07:04] <ubuntu> except i'm not really experienced with computers and partitioning and stuff
[07:05] <ubuntu> so the kubuntu installation is a bit confusing for me
[07:05] <bazhang> kubuntu-desktop is the package you need ubuntu
[07:05] <ubuntu> what do you mean?
[07:05] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:05] <bazhang> then choose it from the login menu
[07:05] <ubuntu> will it change the splash screen and everything?
[07:06] <bazhang> if you want to get rid of xfce4 completely then:
[07:06] <bazhang> !purekde
[07:06] <bazhang> ubuntu, ^
[07:06] <ubuntu> ahh okay
[07:06] <ubuntu> thank you very much
[07:06] <bazhang> np
[07:06] <ubuntu> if I have any problems I'll be back
[08:40] <KarmaComa> hello
[08:40] <KarmaComa> google-translator widget on kubunto 11.10 gives me "Unknown translation error!"
[08:40] <KarmaComa> i submitted an issue on the google translator website here since too long http://code.google.com/p/google-translator/issues/detail?id=1 but i got no answer
[08:41] <KarmaComa> these are the needed dependencies python-kde4 v. 4.5.1 python-qt4 v. 4.7.2 python-simplejson plasma-scriptengine-python v. 4.4.4
[08:41] <KarmaComa> but in kubuntu 11.10 theres a newer version of each dependency!
[08:41] <KarmaComa> thats why its not working
[08:42] <KarmaComa> and i can't uninstall them and downgrade these dependecies
[08:42] <ktwo> Hi, does kubuntu have something to connect to bluetooth PAN from default? i cant find anything
[08:42] <ktwo> in ubuntu, its just plug and play, connect to network
[08:43] <KarmaComa> so its always in kubuntu 11.10 giving me the error from any language to any language "Unknown translation error!"
[08:43] <KarmaComa> any help please?
[08:45] <KarmaComa> it looks like a hopeless case :/
[09:00] <sluckxz> xbmc is slick for testing.  i use nvidia cards. and get acceleration with a micro ion pc.  plays 1080 on xbmc acceptable doesnt look like anybody has done anything with it since late 2010.
[09:00] <sluckxz> oops
[09:05] <ktwo> Hi, does kubuntu have something to connect to bluetooth PAN from default? i cant find anything
[09:05] <ktwo> in ubuntu, its just plug and play, connect to network
[09:12] <ktwo> No one using Kubuntu + Bluetooth PAN here?
[10:44] <ktwo> No one using Kubuntu + Bluetooth PAN here?  cant find an option to connect like in GNOMMe
[10:46] <Tm_T> PAN?
[11:01] <ktwo> personal area network
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:24] <Kaaj> Hi there, I installed kubuntu (I was the one earlier asking about installing kubuntu over xubuntu) and it worked perfectly except now when I restart the computer and try to start Kubuntu it doesn't get past the splash screen
[12:24] <Kaaj> when I see what it is writing behind the splash screen it says lightDM display manager fail
[12:24] <Kaaj> anyone know what's going on here at all?
[12:31] <Kaaj> Hello?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Kaaj,  install kdm
[12:32] <Kaaj> how can I do it if I can't log in?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Kaaj, did you migrate from gnome/unity
[12:32] <Kaaj> I can't get into kubuntu because it stops before I can
[12:32] <Kaaj> I migrated from xubuntu
[12:32] <Kaaj> xfce
[12:33] <BluesKaj> can you get to a tty , alt+f1 ?
[12:33] <Kaaj> tty?
[12:33] <Kaaj> (sorry not really experienced with this stuff)
[12:35] <BluesKaj> your running without the X server , no graphics , basically like a terminal
[12:35] <BluesKaj> you're
[12:35] <Kaaj> and I'm actually dual booting with windows 7 so I can't try it out unless I get out of windows and try everything and I don't want to do that over and over so I want to get as much info as possible
[12:35] <Kaaj> hmm, about that - when it stops loading, do I try and press alt f1?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> any commands you can do in the terminal can be used  in the tty as well
[12:36] <Kaaj> hmm okay
[12:36] <Kaaj> so after I do that if it's good what do I do?
[12:37] <BluesKaj> Kaaj,  sudo apt-get remove lightdm && sudo apt-get install kdm
[12:38] <Kaaj> okay
[12:38] <Kaaj> I'll try this
[12:38] <Kaaj> thank you, I'll be back if I have any problems
[12:39] <almoxarife> any bind9 gurus?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> almoxarife,  no gurus here, just volunteers :)
[12:41] <almoxarife> decided to go for 12.04, not bad, crashes are minimal so far, I am impressed
[12:41] <BluesKaj> almoxarife,  yup, it's quite stable
[12:42] <almoxarife> except for that dnsmasq nastiness
[12:42] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: surprising aint it?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> almoxarife,  what dnsmasq nastiness ?
[12:46] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: I had used dnsmasq for ever thru all the flavors of ubuntu, on 12.04 you don't get to have your way with dnsmasq, so far perhaps, it bacame a default dns cache and along with it no more personal conf settings
[12:46] <Kaaj> Hey again
[12:46] <Kaaj> it didn't work
[12:46] <Kaaj> well
[12:46] <Kaaj> it doesn't say fail anymore
[12:47] <Kaaj> but then again it doesn't even come up now
[12:47] <Kaaj> it just stops at checking battery something
[12:47] <almoxarife> Kaaj: what didn't work?
[12:47] <almoxarife> or what is broke?
[12:47] <Kaaj> I installed kde over xubuntu
[12:47] <Kaaj> and it was working fine
[12:47] <Kaaj> but then I restarted the computer
[12:47] <Kaaj> and it didn't go passed the splash screen
[12:48] <Kaaj> I checked why and it was saying lightdm fail
[12:48] <Kaaj> so I uninstalled lightdm and installed kdm
[12:48] <Kaaj> I was told to do this
[12:48] <szal> !enter
[12:48] <Kaaj> and then I restarted the computer and instead of saying lightdm fail, it just stops at checking battery or something
[12:48] <almoxarife> yes, and did you configure to use the lightdm instead?
[12:48] <Kaaj> (sorry for enter'ing a lot)
[12:49] <Kaaj> what do you mean configure?
[12:49] <Kaaj> I was using lightdm
[12:49] <Kaaj> and I was told to uninstall it
[12:49] <almoxarife> Kaaj: I got that
[12:49] <almoxarife> Kaaj: how did you install it?
[12:49] <Kaaj> I never installed lightdm
[12:49] <Kaaj> it came with kde I guess?
[12:50] <Kaaj> I don't know
[12:50] <almoxarife> Kaaj: what was the original xubuntu or kubuntu?
[12:50] <Kaaj> xubuntu
[12:51] <almoxarife> Kaaj: how did you install kdm?
[12:51] <Kaaj> alt f1 at the splash screen
[12:51] <Kaaj> sudo apt-get uninstall lightdm
[12:51] <Kaaj> sudo apt-get install kdm
[12:51] <Kaaj> this is what I was told to do
[12:51] <almoxarife> Kaaj: I saw what you were 'told'
[12:52] <ktwo> No one using Kubuntu + Bluetooth PAN (Personal Area Network ) here?  cant find an option to connect like in GNOME
[12:52] <almoxarife> Kaaj: it hangs at what point?
[12:52] <ktwo> in ubuntu (not KDE) there appears a "Connect to Bluetooth Network " or similar in the Network-Manager
[12:52] <Kaaj> well now it hangs when it says "checking bettery ..."
[12:52] <Kaaj> or something like this
[12:53] <BluesKaj> almoxarife,  you realize that resolv.conf is now overwritten by /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d, check this  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/+bug/933723
[12:54] <szal> overwritten or overridden?
[12:54] <almoxarife> Kaaj: can you boot into xubuntu?
[12:54] <Kaaj> no I uninstalled it
[12:54] <Kaaj> I used the guide from psychocats
[12:54] <Kaaj> to create pure kde
[12:55] <almoxarife> Kaaj: did xubuntu work?
[12:55] <Kaaj> worked fine
[12:55] <BluesKaj> szal,  look at the URL I posted above
[12:55] <almoxarife> Kaaj: put it back
[12:56] <Kaaj> why?
[12:56] <Kaaj> I don't want to use xfce
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Kaaj,  did you install kubuntu-desktop
[12:56] <Kaaj> yes
[12:56] <Kaaj> that I did
[13:00] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: not sure about the bug, I don't have that issue, I wanted to resolve to <IP_ADDRESS>, I setup network-manager to do so, and it does show that it did
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Kaaj,  have you tried the recovery mode /kernel in grub ?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> almoxarife,  networlkmanager?  laptop?wifi?
[13:00] <Kaaj> hmm, I tried but it stopped again
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Kaaj,  what's your graphics card?
[13:01] <Kaaj> hmmm
[13:01] <Kaaj> let me check
[13:01] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: network-manager is the installed default 12.04, yeap laptop eth0
[13:02] <Kaaj> integrated Intel HD Graphics 3000
[13:03] <BluesKaj> almoxarife,  if you want to run dnsmasq and resolv.conf with nameservers , it's best to remove NM , IMO . but that's me ...network manager isn't really required with eth0
[13:04] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: I would still need it on wifi, better yet, I get to learn bin9 now instead of dnsmasq
[13:06] <Kaaj> So, any ideas what I should do guys?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> kaaj , short doing a complete reinstall ..you could try the nomodeset procedure which might get you to a the login page
[13:08] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | Kaaj
[13:10] <Kaaj> argh I'll just stay with windows, thanks for your help guys but this is silly
[13:12] <BluesKaj> bummer , I think i had a solution for him ... lightdm-kde-greeter
[13:31] <Nagatto190x> bonjour il ya quelqu'un ??...
[13:32] <Nagatto190x> pouvez vous m'aider ??? ...
[13:32] <BluesKaj> bonjour Nagatto190x , attenadez #ubuntu-fr
[13:32] <BluesKaj> atendez
[13:33] <Nagatto190x> d'accord
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Nagatto190x,  ou , #kubuntu-fr
[13:34] <szal> BluesKaj: your French seems a bit rusty ;)
[13:35] <BluesKaj> my KB skills aren't the greatest
[13:35] <BluesKaj> haven't used french in a while as well , szal , how about you ?
[13:37] <szal> BluesKaj: never learned French properly; I can rhyme myself a bit together, but that was it
[13:39] <Peace-> je etudie frace pur a while :D
[13:39] <BluesKaj> my french is rudimentary , it's my KB skills that make me look rusty
[13:40] <Peace-> my french ... is italian :D
[13:46] <szal> lol
[13:46] <BluesKaj> szal, yeah sure , you can so speak french , don't BS me Jacques S. Beisser:)
[13:47] <BluesKaj> even tho you live in germany
[13:48] <szal> don't be fooled by the real name I entered in my IRC client ;)
[13:50] <BluesKaj> szal,  so you're hiding something :)
[13:51] <szal> not really :)
[13:51] <BluesKaj> just kidding szal :)
[13:52] <szal> was rather a compromise between the real name requirement as per RFC (don't remember the number, but I read it years ago) and the habit on other networks to enter an arbitrary string in the real name field
[13:53] <szal> 10 years or so ago, IRCops on IRCnet banned ppl for not using a real name string that looked like a real name
[13:55] <BluesKaj> yeah I've benn on IRC for 15 yrs , always used my first name .to me it's enough
[13:55] <BluesKaj> been
[13:56] <BluesKaj> never encountered any ops who demanded a full name
[14:11] <BluesKaj> I don't miss the dial up connections. Although living in a small town, there wasn't much choice except dialup , until 2001.
[14:50] <danielo> welcome
[14:51] <danielo> can anyone could help me
[14:51] <danielo> I've clicked to encrypt
[14:51] <BluesKaj> and ?
[14:52] <danielo> and I've installed it once again
[14:52] <danielo> and now in my foler I ve encrypted file
[14:53] <danielo> and I do not know how to get my file back :(
[14:53] <danielo> please help
[14:53] <danielo> I've got an important files there
[14:54] <danielo> my home folder is encrypted
[14:54] <Peace-> danielo: well you can decry
[14:54] <Peace-> if you know the password
[14:54] <danielo> password for my user acount
[14:54] <danielo> ?
[14:54] <Peace-> hahahaha
[14:54] <Peace-> danielo: do you remember the password of your old user?
[14:55] <danielo> yes I do
[14:55] <Peace-> ok
[14:55] <Peace-> the user of new installation is different?
[14:55] <danielo> can I do it from live usb
[14:55] <danielo> no it is the same
[14:55] <danielo> the same name
[14:55] <BluesKaj> why encrypt if you have a strong password?
[14:55] <Peace-> are you sure?
[14:55] <danielo> yes
[14:55] <Peace-> danielo: if the name it's the same and the password it's the same you can read the files
[14:56] <Peace-> but if tthe password is changed you will get the problem
[14:56] <Peace-> so you need to add a uuser
[14:56] <Peace-> with the same password and the same nick
[14:56] <Peace-> sudo adduser restore ; sudo adduser restore admin
[14:57] <Peace-> that will create a new user restore
[14:57] <danielo> I see but now My ubuntu doesnt start at all
[14:57] <Peace-> then remove the nick of your new installation
[14:57] <Peace-> ubuntu?
[14:57] <danielo> kubuntu
[14:57] <danielo> It dosnt wont start
[14:57] <Peace-> danielo: you coudl try with a livecd but i dunno
[14:58] <Peace-> i have never made that job
[14:58] <Peace-> you should resize your harddriver create a new partition for a new installation
[14:58] <danielo> all
[14:58] <danielo> right
[14:58] <danielo> I've login
[14:58] <Peace-> and install the system on that partition
[14:58] <danielo> as old user "ania"
[14:58] <Peace-> but with the home shared with the old installation
[14:59] <danielo> but with diferent password
[14:59] <Peace-> danielo: that is the problem
[14:59] <danielo> that I've set eariel
[14:59] <Peace-> you need to reset the passowrod
[14:59] <danielo> so how?
[14:59] <Peace-> danielo: have you tried to run kernel recovery ?
[14:59] <Peace-> recovery should let you login via shell
[14:59] <danielo> I;ve login
[14:59] <danielo> in shell
[15:00] <danielo> i put ls
[15:00] <danielo> and I got files
[15:00] <danielo> Access-Yout_private-Data.desktop and Readme.txt
[15:00] <Peace-> one moment please
[15:00] <Peace-> i get a phone
[15:00] <danielo> ok
[15:01] <danielo> wiil be good if I will set the eariel password using command
[15:01] <danielo> passwd
[15:01] <danielo> while I am login as that user?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Peace-, you asked me in th epast to help yow ith correct English , I get a phone = "i have a phone call'
[15:02] <BluesKaj> damn KB
[15:03] <danielo> ?
[15:03] <danielo> I dont get it
[15:03] <danielo> my english is bad
[15:03] <BluesKaj> Peace-, you asked me in the past to help you with correct English , I get a phone = "i have a phone call'
[15:03] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :D yes ty
[15:03] <BluesKaj> ok  Peace- :)
[15:03] <Peace-> danielo: ok so you can login via terminal
[15:03] <Peace-> nice stuff
[15:03] <danielo> yes
[15:03] <Peace-> danielo: type this
[15:03] <danielo> I do it already
[15:04] <Peace-> sudo adduser restore ; sudo adduser restore admin
[15:05] <danielo> i one line?
[15:05] <danielo> or two?
[15:05] <Peace-> one line
[15:06] <danielo> what password should I set?
[15:06] <Peace-> danielo: this a service user you can use what you want
[15:06] <Peace-> danielo: then login with this user
[15:07] <danielo> I am
[15:07] <danielo> as a restore
[15:07] <Peace-> danielo: .. i wa thinking ... you have not used recovery kernel right?
[15:08] <danielo> I do not know what is it
[15:08] <Peace-> danielo: well try with this     eariel is your username right ?           sudo passwd eariel
[15:09] <Peace-> and use the old password
[15:09] <danielo> I've had system with encrypted home dir
[15:09] <danielo> but system crashed so I've reinstalled, added the same user but with diferent password
[15:09] <danielo> my user is:
[15:09] <danielo> ania
[15:09] <Peace-> so
[15:09] <danielo> ?
[15:09] <Peace->  sudo passwd ania
[15:10] <danielo> and now it ask for a password for restore
[15:10] <Peace-> danielo: now set the old password
[15:11] <danielo> ok
[15:11] <danielo> succes
[15:11] <Peace-> now exit like restore user
[15:11] <Peace-> and use ania
[15:11] <danielo> so logout
[15:11] <danielo> or su ania
[15:11] <danielo> right?
[15:12] <Peace-> you now you have to login with ania user and see if you can read the files
[15:12] <Peace-> danielo: btw yhou could install lubuntu-desktop
[15:12] <Peace-> and run lxde
[15:12] <aqualuk> hi, i've a problem with my kubuntu. i can't start it. it fails at the kdesplash.
[15:12] <danielo> no I can see my files
[15:12] <Peace-> ?
[15:13] <aqualuk> I installed it 2-3 hours ago and didn't installed or changed anything.
[15:13] <Peace-> aqualuk: what you have isntalled ?
[15:13] <Peace-> 11.10 ?
[15:13] <danielo> I see Acces Your private data.desktop
[15:13] <aqualuk> Peace-: yes
[15:13] <danielo> yes
[15:13] <danielo> maybe I will restart?
[15:13] <Peace-> danielo: you can read the file yes or not?
[15:14] <danielo> no
[15:14] <danielo> stil encrypted
[15:14] <danielo> init 6
[15:14] <Peace-> danielo: try to reboot
[15:14] <danielo> yes I do
[15:14] <Peace-> aqualuk: kde versio ?
[15:14] <Peace-> n
[15:14] <aqualuk> Peace-: I've the .xsession_errors if this would help
[15:15] <Peace-> aqualuk: ok start kubuntu using recovery kernel
[15:15] <aqualuk> Peace-: no idea, the default version in 11.10, i didn't change anything
[15:15] <Peace-> aqualuk: do you know how to do ?
[15:15] <Peace-> aqualuk: there is some weird stuff on your system
[15:15] <aqualuk> Peace-: select it in grub
[15:15] <danielo> yes I've got
[15:15] <Peace-> aqualuk: ok use that , drop to root shell
[15:15] <aqualuk> Peace-: Ah i've two monitors. Maybe this is the problem
[15:15] <Peace-> aqualuk: mm
[15:15] <aqualuk> Peace-: I can log in in shell. Thats not the problem
[15:16] <Peace-> aqualuk: try to disconnect the second then
[15:16] <aqualuk> Peace-: But I can't start kde.
[15:16] <Peace-> aqualuk: discconet the second monuitor then you reboot and try to see if it works
[15:17] <Peace-> danielo: so you can read the files ?
[15:20] <aqualuk> Peace-: i can do so, but even if this works this is no real solution
[15:21] <Peace-> aqualuk: well first of all you understood the problem
[15:21] <Peace-> aqualuk: it's a driver problem
[15:23] <aqualuk> Peace-: ok i'll try.
[15:33] <rtdos> how do i install adobe flash for konquerer - i have the adobe flash plugin for firefox but it doesn't always seem to work (i'm told to download or re-download the flash plugin)
[15:43] <aqualuk> re
[15:43] <BluesKaj> rtdos,  do you have the libflashplayer.so file handy? , if so, alt+f2,  kdesudo dolphin /usr/lib/mozilla .copy the libflashplayer.so file to the plugins folder there.
[15:44] <aqualuk> it works with one monitor, but what should i do to get it work with two?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> rtdos,  or in th terminal,  sudo cp /pathto/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[15:48] <danielo> can anyone help me
[15:49] <danielo> my xorg dosnt start
[15:52] <jamil_1> hi all
[15:52] <jamil_1> how can I install a package in  my /home/jamil/somelocation  ?
[15:53] <ikonia> jamil_1: you can't do that as the package manager has the file paths it installs to hardcoded
[15:54] <BluesKaj> jamil_1,  packages are by default installed in /usr/bin, /usr/share, /usr/lib etc , not in your /home/user
[15:54] <jamil_1> right
[15:58] <Peace-> danielo: you need to locate your xorg.conf
[15:58] <Peace-> danielo: if you have done one
[15:58] <Peace-> danielo: nvidia ?
[15:58] <Peace-> !nvidia
[15:59] <Peace-> danielo: reset your xorg.conf if you have created one
[16:00] <danielo> YEA
[16:00] <BluesKaj> Peace-, , bet it isn't nvidia , otherwise he wouldn't need an xorg
[16:00] <danielo> I've didnt change it
[16:01] <Peace-> BluesKaj: can help him ? i have to go
[16:01] <danielo> can I delet it?
[16:01] <Peace-> danielo: nope
[16:01] <Peace-> danielo: first of all you should not delete system files
[16:01]  * BluesKaj hasn't needed an xorg.conf for a few releases now
[16:01] <Peace-> just rename it if you need
[16:02] <danielo> oki
[16:02] <Peace-> danielo: i have not nvidia
[16:02] <Peace-> danielo: just ask to the channel or read the wiki
[16:02] <danielo> have nvidi
[16:02] <Peace-> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[16:02] <Peace-> danielo: your video driver is the bad guy here
[16:02] <BluesKaj> Peace-,  danielo sorry , i haven't kept up with xorg,conf lately
[16:04] <BluesKaj> danielo,  which nvidia card and which driver ?
[16:05] <danielo> driver default
[16:05] <danielo> I havent changed it
[16:05] <danielo> I've reneamed xorg file
[16:05] <danielo> will see now
[16:06] <danielo> didnt help
[16:06] <BluesKaj> lspci | grep VGA , will give the graphics card name
[16:06] <danielo> I've got comunicate:
[16:06] <danielo> mountall: disconected with Plymouth
[16:08] <danielo> lspci | grep VGA:
[16:08] <danielo> VGA compatible controller: nVidia corporation NV43 [geforce 6600gt] (rev a2)
[16:10] <danielo> Blueskaj? can You help me
[16:10] <danielo> ?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> danielo, are you at the login ? if so , ctl+alt+f1 , sudo apt-get in stall nvidia-current
[16:13] <BluesKaj> danielo,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[16:13] <danielo> yes
[16:14] <danielo> oki :D
[16:19] <danielo> dosnt work :(
[16:21] <danielo> failed to laod module nv (module dosnt exist)
[16:21] <danielo> Failed to load the Nvidia kernel module
[16:21] <danielo> screens found, but none have a usable  configuration
[16:21] <danielo> that is the error when I run startx
[16:21] <BluesKaj> danielo,  this time before installing , do , sudo service kdm stop , then install nvidia-current , then , startx
[16:22] <danielo> ok
[16:22] <rtdos> sorry blueskaj, when i get back to that machine i do that.
[16:23] <danielo> it is already in newest versio
[16:24] <danielo> I cant install it
[16:24] <danielo> I will reinstall
[16:26] <danielo> bulding only for <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[16:26] <danielo> module buildi for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel sources for this kernel does not seem to be installed
[16:26] <danielo> that error I got while install
[16:27] <DarthFrog> danielo: Install the linux-headers package.
[16:28] <DarthFrog> Specifically, install linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[16:28] <BluesKaj> ok danielo , check you grub menu , make sure you login using the <IP_ADDRESS>-generic kernel , the default kernel source driver works with your card
[16:29] <danielo> installing headers
[16:29] <danielo> :P
[16:29] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog,  good suggestion there :)
[16:30] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  And I haven't even had my coffee yet. :-)
[16:30] <BluesKaj> danielo,  also , to create an new nvidia xorg ,  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:32] <danielo> ok
[16:33] <danielo> now x are sttarting
[16:33] <danielo> but I putn my login and passwodr
[16:33] <danielo> I ve got black screen
[16:33] <danielo> and back to kdm
[16:34] <danielo> works with lxde but not kde :(
[16:34] <BluesKaj> danielo,  lightdm ?
[16:35] <danielo> lightdm YES
[16:35] <DarthFrog> danielo:  When you're at the KDM login screen, check that it's set to log you into KDE.
[16:35] <ubuntu> how i make a reloaded on muon package manager
[16:35] <danielo> lightdm looks nice :P
[16:36] <danielo> but I've always used kde
[16:36] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog,  install lightdm-kde-greeter
[16:36] <danielo> ow
[16:36] <danielo> Kde seems to starting :D
[16:37] <BluesKaj> oops danielo
[16:37] <danielo> thanks :D
[16:37] <danielo> Man You are helping me all the time
[16:37] <danielo> :D
[16:37] <danielo> thanks
[16:37] <danielo> :D
[16:37] <FloodBotK1> danielo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:39] <BluesKaj> well, taking a break soon
[16:39] <danielo> thanks :D
[16:39]  * DarthFrog pours BluesKaj a cup of coffee.
[16:41] <BluesKaj> thanks DarthFrog ...nice here today, spring has finally arrived , 14C and sunny atm
[16:42] <DarthFrog> It snowed here yesterday. :-(
[16:43] <qw-Russian> i would like delete hidden off-wire network? where it can be found to me
[16:43] <BluesKaj> well you guys seldom get that, and it won't last
[16:44] <BluesKaj> here we go again , with the tranwlator
[16:45] <BluesKaj> translator
[16:45] <DarthFrog> off-wire = wireless?
[16:45] <ubuntu> how i make a reloaded on muon package manager
[16:46] <DarthFrog> ubuntu:  Click on "Check For Updates".
[16:48] <qw-Russian> wi-fi
[16:48] <danielo> can You help me once moer?
[16:48] <danielo> more*?
[16:48] <danielo> I cant mount any drivers
[16:48] <danielo> :(
[16:48] <BluesKaj> BBL
[16:49] <DarthFrog> qw-Russian:  Use "wireless"  instead of "off-wire".
[16:49] <qw-Russian> were is it ?
[16:49] <DarthFrog> qw-Russian:  Do you have a Network Management icon in your systray?
[16:51] <qw-Russian> may be
[16:51] <qw-Russian> how does it look ?
[16:55] <danielo> please help me. I cant access my usb drives. Internall disk are monted normally, but usb devices got error about the kernel driver is unavalible for vfat
[16:56] <jessie> danielo: On Kubuntu? Which version? 11.10?
[16:57] <danielo> yes 11.10
[16:59] <Peace-> danielo: what you did to that kubuntu ...
[16:59] <danielo> I do nothing
[16:59] <Peace-> danielo: before the driver of nvidia
[16:59] <Peace-> then the encryped home
[16:59] <Peace-> now the usb
[16:59] <Peace-> :S
[17:00] <danielo> I've install system on already existed
[17:00] <danielo> one
[17:00] <Peace-> mah
[17:02] <danielo> I cant do this in comand line too
[17:02] <danielo> I do not know why it happend that way
[17:02] <danielo> I will try to upload all
[17:06] <danielo> in konsole I've got info that
[17:06] <danielo> mount: uknown system type "vfat"
[17:06] <danielo> I do not know why
[17:08] <danielo> Peace pliss help
[17:08] <danielo> maybe some package?
[17:08] <danielo> what do you thinkk?
[17:11] <danielo> is there any chance to repair it?
[17:13] <danielo> ok it works back again. I've reinstalled all with name usb in
[17:13] <danielo> :D
[17:28] <Cenbe> How can I make the date more visible on the panel's digital clock?
[17:29] <KarmaComa> long date?
[17:29] <rickyB> Hi guys. I'm giving KDE/kubuntu a try atm. Is there a mac-style dock that integrates well with kubuntu?
[17:29] <KarmaComa> right click > digital clock settings
[17:30] <Peace-> rickyB: it's called daisy
[17:30] <Peace-> rickyB: 32bit ?
[17:30] <rickyB> 64
[17:31] <rickyB> thanks
[17:31] <Peace-> rickyB: daisy was the mac style stuff
[17:31] <Peace-> even the faincy dock
[17:32] <Foxhoundz> For some reason, Kubuntu won't detect my USB wireless adapter
[17:32] <Foxhoundz> And there doesn't seem to be a driver for it
[17:32] <Foxhoundz> It's Tenda 1311M
[17:32] <Peace-> Foxhoundz: well you have a not well supported wifi usb stick
[17:32] <Peace-> rickyB: i use this btw http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/14/plasma-desktopUP1852.png
[17:33] <Peace-> Foxhoundz: lsusb
[17:34] <rickyB> thx again, I'll have a look
[17:34] <Foxhoundz> Peace-: well, it worked fine when I was using Fedora
[17:34] <Foxhoundz> I just need to find out the driver Fedora uses
[17:34] <Peace-> Foxhoundz: ok nice taht is a good news
[17:34] <Peace-> Foxhoundz: maybe yo don't need
[17:35] <Peace-> Foxhoundz: iwconfig on termina
[17:35] <Peace-> l
[17:35] <Foxhoundz> lo - no wireless extensions
[17:35] <Foxhoundz> eth0 - no wireless extensions
[17:35] <Peace-> just tht?
[17:35] <Foxhoundz> Yeap
[17:35] <Peace-> ok the driver is missing
[17:39] <Cenbe> KarmaComa: but I want to make the font a littler bigger (short date only, leaving the time as is).
[17:39] <KarmaComa> whats date format you are on?
[17:40] <KarmaComa> i think you can only make the clock font bold
[17:40] <KarmaComa> and change color
[17:41] <KarmaComa> the date you can make it a bit bigger in case you use long date format by editing the mm/yy/dd/yyyy by erasing the yyyy
[17:41] <KarmaComa> thats it
[20:29] <savio> how can i add image viewer in dolphin
[20:29] <savio> ?
[20:33] <darthanubis> savio: what does that mean?
[20:34] <savio> in my dolhpin file manager i need to open firefox to view image viewer
[20:34] <qw-Russian> why test Calculate Linux Desktop (CLD) ?
[20:34] <savio> how can i add support to dolhpin
[20:35] <darthanubis> dolphin already has support
[20:35] <qw-Russian> who test Calculate Linux Desktop (CLD)
[20:35] <darthanubis> right click the file and reorder the program associations to your liking
[20:35] <savio> means?
[20:40] <savio> where can i find dolhpin executable file on linux
[20:41] <rork> savio: /usr/bin/
[20:43] <rork> savio: to enable image previews in dolphin go to "Settings > Configure Dolphin > General > Previews (tab) > Enable previews for images.
[20:45] <rork> savio: you can also enable the information panel (View > Panels > Information or F11) which shows a preview of the image on hoover
[20:47] <savio> i want something like windows image preview
[20:47] <savio> so after opening one image i can use my arrow keys to goto nest image
[20:54] <rork> savio: ok, "System Settings > File Associations", set the default program to open the image files to gwenview. In gwenview the default shortcuts to switch to the next/previous image are space/backspace but you can change then in "Settings > Configure Shortcuts"
[21:01] <savio> rork: thx
[21:36] <motocrack> hi all ~
[21:44] <markus__> moin
[21:56] <MountainX>  a standard install of Kubuntu 12.04 beta 1 appears to be missing /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache. Can anyone confirm this?
[22:00] <nancy--> i just sudo apt-get apache2          . did i installed php and mysql too and how to start these. with httpd?
[22:02] <jessie> nancy--: No, php and mysql were not likely installed. You will likely want to do a 'sudo apt-get install libapache2-php5 mysql'.
[23:23] <astrobill> I've been having irc problems today
[23:23] <astrobill> can anyone see me?
[23:23] <EvilResistance> yes
[23:23] <EvilResistance> but
[23:23] <EvilResistance> !offtopic
[23:23] <EvilResistance> and !test
[23:23] <EvilResistance> oops
[23:23] <FloodBotK1> EvilResistance: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:24] <astrobill> sorry, I didn't mean to break any rules


[21:10] <jcastro> kenvandine: hey
[21:11] <jcastro> kenvandine: fill in the blank for me here
[21:11] <kenvandine> yo
[21:11] <kenvandine> blue
[21:11] <kenvandine> round
[21:11] <kenvandine> loser
[21:11] <kenvandine> ?
[21:11] <kenvandine> :)
[21:11] <jcastro> kenvandine: In order to check which packages in the archive for sure use an indicator, we need to check for a dependency on __$packagename___
[21:11] <jcastro> and then I need the command, is it an rdepends?
[21:11] <kenvandine> yes
[21:12] <kenvandine> apt-cache rdepends libappindicator3-1
[21:12] <kenvandine> for example
[21:12] <kenvandine> for appindicator
[21:12] <mhall119> ah right, I forgot about rdepends
[21:12] <jcastro> kenvandine: you are awesome, thanks!
[21:12] <kenvandine> jcastro, and for python apps check against python-appindicator
[21:13] <kenvandine> jcastro, anytime!
[23:08] <andyrock> bschaefer, hi
[23:08] <bschaefer> andyrock, hey
[23:08] <andyrock> bschaefer, how do you want to fix #869122?
[23:09] <andyrock> i'm just curious :)
[23:09] <bschaefer> andyrock, not sure just started looking at it haha
[23:10] <bschaefer> andyrock, have you looked at it before?
[23:10] <andyrock> bschaefer, ah... good luck than ;) don't yell to X11 to much
[23:11] <andyrock> balloons, not but i guess that without take the mouse grab
[23:11] <andyrock> balloons, sorry
[23:11] <bschaefer> andyrock, yeah I checked if that signal was working already...so now I am just going through the header file
[23:12] <andyrock> bschaefer, it's difficult to exit from the keyboard navigation on mouse down without take the mouse grab
[23:12] <bschaefer> andyrock, hmm maybe I can find out why the mouse grab isn't working then
[23:13] <andyrock> bschaefer, because we don't take the mouse grab on key navigation :)
[23:13] <andyrock> someone removes the function GrabPointer()
[23:14] <bschaefer> andyrock, well that saves some time haha. Did you have use that in the quicklist problem on start up?
[23:14] <bschaefer> didnt*
[23:14] <bschaefer> to figure it out
[23:14] <bschaefer> or workaround...(random digression)
[23:15] <andyrock> but you cannot just use it otherwise you cannot implement as described in the bug description
[23:15] <andyrock> what do you mean for "did you have use that..."? :)
[23:15] <bschaefer> I ment. Didn't you use that...for a workaround
[23:16] <bschaefer> just a random flash back of that function being used somewhere else haha
[23:17] <andyrock> ;)
[23:18] <mhr3> bschaefer, re 711199 - the string will be passed from scopes, it will be accessible using the hints parameter of SearchFinished signal
[23:19] <andyrock> btw i've not used that for a workarount
[23:19] <andyrock> *d
[23:19] <andyrock> if i'm not wrong it was a not-initialized problem
[23:19] <bschaefer> andyrock, yeah it was
[23:19] <bschaefer> mhr3, thanks!
[23:20] <bschaefer> mhr3, wasn't sure if you were up as it is late over there
[23:20] <mhr3> bschaefer, going to bed now :)
[23:21] <bschaefer> mhr3, good night
[23:21] <mhr3> speaking about late... sup andyrock? :)
[23:21] <andyrock> mhr3, ehehe sometimes I work until 5:00 AM
[23:22] <mhr3> andyrock, wow, you're like sam
[23:22] <andyrock> I've to study to... a lot!
[23:22] <andyrock> *too
[23:22] <mhr3> exams coming now?
[23:22] <andyrock> mhr3, two exams
[23:22] <bschaefer> andyrock, what are the exams on?
[23:22] <andyrock> mhr3, two math exams
[23:23] <bschaefer> andyrock, good luck with those
[23:23] <mhr3> i really dont miss that part of uni life ;)
[23:23] <andyrock> bschaefer, physics and linear algebra
[23:23] <mhr3> andyrock, where do you study anyway?
[23:23] <andyrock> mhr3, in Italy :/
[23:24] <mhr3> yea, but where
[23:24] <andyrock> at least for this year
[23:24] <andyrock> Ancona
[23:24] <mhr3> cause my synapse co-developer is from italy as well
[23:24] <bschaefer> andyrock, nice!
[23:24] <andyrock> mhr3, who?
[23:25] <mhr3> andyrock, albyrock87
[23:25] <mhr3> dunno why all of you are *rocks :D
[23:28] <andyrock> mhr3, ahahhaha but didrocks is not Italian :/
[23:28] <mhr3> andyrock, right but in didrocks case it literally means "didier rocks" ;)
[23:31] <andyrock> mhr3, yeah i forgot to add an "s" one year ago
[23:31] <andyrock> ;)
[23:31] <mhr3> andyrock, ok, now it makes sense :)


[04:44] <Vantrax> I hear this is where to visit for ubuntu member IRC cloaks?
[04:46] <nalioth> Vantrax: yep
[04:46] <Vantrax> https://launchpad.net/~matthew.lye is my launchpad
[06:01] <tgm4883> can I get a ubuntu cloak, I just got membership tonight  https://edge.launchpad.net/~tgm4883
[08:01] <jpds> tgm4883: Sure, you'll have to wait till either nalioth or Pricey get back though.
[08:07] <tgm4883> ok, I'm headed to bed soon, so I'll try again in the morning
[09:37] <jester-> hi
[10:27] <Pricey> tgm4883: done
[10:27] <Pricey> hi jester-
[10:29] <jester-> hi Pricey
[14:34] <charlie-tca> Can I request an Ubuntu cloak? My Launchpad name is charlie-tca
[14:35] <erUSUL> charlie-tca: are you memeber?
[14:35] <erUSUL> charlie-tca: are you member?
[14:35] <jpds> charlie-tca: Please make sure that you have set up your Freenode account as per http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[14:35] <charlie-tca> yes, as of last night
[14:35] <Pici> jpds: ack, beat me ;)
[14:35] <charlie-tca> already set up;
[14:35] <jpds> charlie-tca: You can check your nicks and emails doing: /msg NickServ info
[14:35] <jpds> OK; nalioth and Pricey - can you do the honours^
[14:36] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[14:36] <jpds> charlie-tca: Were you at Google in December?
[14:37] <charlie-tca> no, I didn't make it
[14:37] <jpds> Ah, OK.
[14:37] <charlie-tca> Can't make Barcelona, either
[14:38] <jpds> Oh, that's a shame :(
[14:39] <Pici> Me either :(
[14:39] <pleia2> me either :(
[14:39] <pleia2> silly work
[14:39] <Pici> Ditto.
[14:39] <Pici> I have a system that is going live on June 1st.
[14:40] <pleia2> we're just short staffed, and I'm already going to a conference at the end of this month
[14:40] <jpds> This is probably a bad time to say I live right next to Bcn.
[14:40]  * pleia2 shakes fist
[14:41] <pleia2> :)
[14:41] <charlie-tca> why would you think that, pleia2 ? ;)
[14:41] <charlie-tca> s/pleia2/jpds
[14:43] <jpds> charlie-tca: Only joking ;-)
[14:43] <pleia2> Pici: you should come down to the trenton computer festival next month :)
[14:44] <charlie-tca> I guess I can only wish to be close
[14:52] <jpds> Hmm, I'm in London on the 24th.
[14:56] <pleia2> jpds: of march?
[14:56] <jpds> Yeah.
[14:56] <pleia2> me too
[16:10] <foxbuntu> Hi all. I am looking to get my IRC cloak setup. LP: https://launchpad.net/~nickj-fox
[16:10] <rhpot1991> hello I was wondering if I can get a cloak: https://launchpad.net/~rhpot1991
[16:11] <Daviey> no
[16:11] <rhpot1991> :(
[16:11] <foxbuntu> o/ Daviey
[16:11] <Daviey> Gary / nalioth / Pricey ^^
[16:11] <Daviey> hey foxbuntu
[16:12] <jpds> foxbuntu, rhpot1991: Please make sure you've set up your nicks as per: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[16:12] <LjL> foxbuntu, rhpot1991: have you followed the freenode nickname setup steps, namely setting an email address and an alternate nick?
[16:13] <rhpot1991> I believe so, happened a long time ago
[16:13] <rhpot1991> is there a good way to check?
[16:14] <LjL> rhpot1991: freenode staff will check for you, please hold on
[16:14] <jpds> rhpot1991: See: /msg NickServ info
[16:15] <foxbuntu> LjL, jpds I believe mine is setup that way as well
[16:16] <rhpot1991> I need to set an alternate nick, how does one do that?
[16:16] <jpds> rhpot1991: /nick rhpot1991_ and /msg NickServ group
[16:16] <jpds> \o/
[16:16] <rhpot1991> there we go, all good
[16:17] <tomaw> what kind of cloak are you after?
[16:17] <foxbuntu> Ubuntu Members
[16:17] <LjL> tomaw: they're ubuntu members. i can't approve the cloaks but i do believe they're eligible
[16:18] <rhpot1991> yep Ubuntu Member
[16:18] <tomaw> LjL: the request needs to come from a group contact
[16:18] <LjL> tomaw: yes i know, i've pinged one
[16:18] <rhpot1991> I'd like a bot cloak as well if possible
[16:18] <rhpot1991> I think I need to give him an alt nick too, working on it
[16:19] <LjL> tomaw: i thought he wasn't away but perhaps he is after all
[16:21] <LjL> rhpot1991, foxbuntu: all the people who can approve your cloaks currently seem to be away from what i can tell, you'll have to be patient about it.
[16:21] <rhpot1991> LjL: no problem
[16:22] <foxbuntu> LjL, np, we are slackers anyways ;)
[16:24] <tgm4883> thanks Pricey
[16:31] <LjL> tomaw: do you think perhaps having them listed in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-cloaks/+members will do? i suspect actual group contacts won't be available very soon
[16:32] <tomaw> Nah, I don't know enough about how ubuntu controls their cloaks to issue them based on being listed on a website
[16:32] <tomaw> Your best bet is to wait until one of them is online.  I can give an unaffiliated cloak until then if you wish.
[16:32] <rhpot1991> I'm fine with waiting, no hurry here
[16:35] <Myrtti> LjL: don't stress so much dear, it's bad for your skin ;-)
[16:40] <foxbuntu> Yeah guys just when you can. No hurry.
[17:31] <shadeslayer> hi i cant get into #ubuntu for some reason
[17:31] <shadeslayer> i didnt do anthing wrong did i??
[17:33] <Myrtti> this channel is mainly for loco channel issues etc, yours will be addressed at -ops. also, crossposting to several channels at once is a bit tacky
[17:35] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:35] <shadeslayer> sorry
[17:36] <shadeslayer> btw whats babelfish??
[17:36] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:38] <stdin> an online translation service
[17:38] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[19:36] <st33med> I want my cloak now
[19:36] <st33med> Can anyone do that here?
[19:37] <st33med> I just became an Ubuntu Member
[19:37] <Myrtti> st33med: and your launchpad url?
[19:37] <jussi01> st33med: please post your launchpad profile url and make sure your nick is srtup correctly
[19:37] <st33med> jussi01, my nick in LP?
[19:37] <Myrtti> the url
[19:38] <st33med> https://launchpad.net/~ajr1991 << it is supposed to be st33med
[19:39] <jpds> So... change it if you want?
[19:39] <jpds> st33med: Please meake sure that you've set up your Freenode account as per: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[19:39] <st33med> https://launchpad.net/~st33med
[19:39] <st33med> there we go
[19:40] <st33med> Meaning I am properly registered jpds?
[19:40] <jpds> st33med: See '/msg NickServ info' to find out.
[19:41] <st33med> -NickServ- Registered : Sep 06 23:56:54 2007 (1 year, 25 weeks, 6 days, 19:44:00 ago)
[19:41] <st33med> -NickServ- Email      : noemail (hidden)
[19:41] <st33med> -NickServ- Flags      : HideMail
[19:41] <jpds> Well, the grouped nicks and email are more important
[19:41] <st33med> -NickServ- Nicks      : st33med
[19:42] <st33med> hrm, I had another person set it up for me
[19:42] <jpds> OK; you need to set an email and group another nick to your account, please see the link above.
[19:46] <jester-> jpds: is possible to group more than one nick?
[19:46] <jpds> jester-: Yes.
[19:46] <jester-> :D
[19:51] <st33med> Ok I have my email set up
[19:52] <st33med> jpds, now what?
[19:53] <jpds> st33med: /nick st33med_ and then /msg NickServ group
[19:53] <st33med> ah ok
[19:54] <st33med_> alright
[19:54] <jpds> That should do it.
[19:54] <st33med_> now it's cloaked?
[19:54] <jpds> nalioth, Pricey ^
[19:54] <st33med_> oh
[19:55] <st33med_> They have the magic to do that :)
[21:16] <Pricey> st33med_: please add your irc nick to your launchpad page.
[21:16] <st33med_> Oh ok
[21:16] <st33med_> one sec
[21:17] <st33med_> Pricey, ok
[21:19] <rhpot1991> Pricey: foxbuntu and myself have been waiting patiently all day as well, when you have the time :)
[21:21]  * st33med_ hands rhpot1991 a dagger
[21:23] <Pricey> < jpds> foxbuntu: Please make sure you've set up your nicks as per: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[21:23] <Pricey> st33med_, rhpot1991, done
[21:23] <st33med_> \o/
[21:24] <st33med_> /reconnect?
[21:26] <rhpot1991> Pricey: have a minute to talk about getting a bot cloak?
[21:26] <Pricey> st33med: no need to reconnect on that. Check your status window from before :)
[21:27] <nalioth> rhpot1991: bot cloak?
[21:27] <st33med> ...
[21:27] <charlie-tca> okay, so how do I get my nic to cloak?
[21:28] <rhpot1991> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/Cloaks says you can get your bot a cloak
[21:28] <st33med> And my email is set for<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:29] <Pricey> st33med: it will be the bit after the ~ in your launchpad profile url
[21:30] <Pricey> st33med: it may take around 2 weeks to set up, its done automanually
[21:30] <st33med> Oh ok
[21:32] <jpds> Pricey: Err, no.
[21:33] <nalioth> rhpot1991: it says "with irc council approval", so I ask again "bot cloak?"
[21:33] <jpds> st33med: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail
[21:34] <Pricey> jpds: oh?
[21:34] <jpds> Pricey: ^
[21:34] <st33med> The script which creates the email aliases runs every 2 days. So please wait at least 48 hours before checking if the email is working (or leave it a couple more days to be sure).
[21:34] <Pricey> uu shiny
[21:34] <st33med> so by tomorrow at 11:00
[21:34] <Pricey> "As the alias forwards email to your primary address on LP - please do not set your primary email address for Launchpad to your Ubuntu email address as this will result in a loop."
[21:34] <st33med> PM est
[21:34] <Pricey> weird... as that's what i did ages ago
[21:34] <rhpot1991> nalioth: thats what I am asking for approval
[21:35] <nalioth> rhpot1991: what is the purpose of your bot?  where do you want to operati it?  what is the bot nick? etc etc etc
[21:35] <nalioth> we don't just hand out cloaks upon request
[21:35] <jpds> Pricey: Yeah, they set it up so that it doesn't change the alias if LP.email.contains("@ubuntu.com").
[21:35] <jpds> Pricey: But I put that there so people just. don't. do. it.
[21:35] <LjL> Pricey: err... they certainly could *check* for such a loop and stop it
[21:36] <Pricey> ah ok :)
[21:36] <Pricey> But cool!
[21:36] <Pricey> How long has it been like that?
[21:36] <jpds> No idea.
[21:37] <jpds> st33med: Might take a bit longer, but patience is the key.
[21:37] <rhpot1991> nalioth: its nick is Zinn, it lives in #ubuntu-mythtv and #ubuntu-mythtv-dev.  It serves a few purposes currently: bug tracking, user help, dev meeting logging, and a few fun things for us mythbuntu developers
[21:37] <rhpot1991> nalioth: wasn't looking for a free handout, just trying to figure out who I need to talk to :)
[21:37] <st33med> How would I check jpds?
[21:37] <jpds> st33med: Ask someone to send you an email.
[21:38] <st33med> or, I could send myself one
[21:38] <jpds> If you're using Gmail, no.
[21:38] <st33med> Nah, comcast. :|
[21:38] <rhpot1991> nalioth: we teach it things that it stores in mysql and can be repeated back to users having issues, this is its knowledge: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi
[21:38] <rhpot1991> nalioth: oh an it also yells at people for cursing or talking about illegal products (TV related)
[21:38] <jpds> st33med: In that case, yes.
[21:39] <st33med> Nope, not yet
[21:39] <nalioth> rhpot1991: ok, we'll get back with you
[21:39]  * st33med is patient
[21:40] <rhpot1991> nalioth: ok, via email or should I check back in here?
[21:40] <st33med> I made a bot from scratch. I think you have seen it before nalioth
[21:40] <rhpot1991> nalioth: feel free to check with the tgm4883 or superm1 about it existing in those channels, also I can make the source available if need be, I'd need to scrub some mysql info first
[21:41] <nalioth> rhpot1991: we'll find you on irc
[21:41] <rhpot1991> nalioth: good enough, thanks :)
[22:59] <nicolas> hi there
[22:59] <nicolas> is it possible to register a channel with some members in actually ?
[23:02] <jpds> Pardon?
[23:03] <nicolas> #ubuntu-fr-scripts have some user, and some idle, so no way to part all and register channel for ubuntu-fr-irc
[23:04] <jpds> Yeah, they'll have to leave first so you can become oped.
[23:04] <nicolas> yes
[23:04] <stdin> if you can't get the users to part, then the only option, that I can think of, is for the LoCo contact for #ubuntu-fr to ask a member of the IRCC to get staff to register it
[23:04] <nicolas> so i have to wait
[23:05] <nicolas> i'm already admin of #ubuntu-fr* channel
[23:06] <stdin> try sending an email to the council
[23:06] <[NikO]> well, i just wait to have all people in line :
[23:09] <nalioth> jpds: not so
[23:09] <nalioth> jpds: if we can speak to one of the ops of #ubuntu-fr, we can register it w/o dumping folks
[23:10] <nalioth> stdin: email?  this is irc
[23:10] <jussi01> [NikO]: is one, is he not?
[23:10] <stdin> nalioth: assuming one can not find a council member currently active
[23:11] <[NikO]> nalioth: i m' op of #ubuntu-fr
[23:11] <[NikO]> and admin also
[23:11] <[NikO]> i have acces to ubuntu-fr-irc account
[23:12] <nalioth> [NikO]: merry christmas  :p
[23:13] <[NikO]> thanks :)
[23:15] <jussi01> bit of a late/early christmas


[05:08] <boredandblogging> if anyone is interested in supporting http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/13577/
[05:08] <boredandblogging> would appreciate it
[17:48] <AliTabuger7> hello?
[17:49] <shahriar086> hey :)
[17:49] <AliTabuger7> how are you shahriar?
[17:49] <shahriar086> doing so so (till now)
[17:49] <AliTabuger7> I just got a really good rough cut of the SU homepage working: http://spreadubuntu.houbsi.org/
[17:49] <AliTabuger7> what do you mean till now?
[17:49] <AliTabuger7> better now or worse now?
[17:50] <shahriar086> does not matter :)
[17:50] <AliTabuger7> ok. maybe that homepage will make you feel better :D
[17:50] <shahriar086> wow its up :D
[17:51] <AliTabuger7> I did all of that without FTP access in like an hour. imagine what'll happen when they give me FTP and a month
[17:51] <shahriar086> yes I can immagine :)
[17:51] <AliTabuger7> again, it's all a rough cut right now. the icons, and background colors will be refined later
[17:52] <shahriar086> yes I understand
[17:52] <shahriar086> its just a preview
[17:52] <AliTabuger7> Actually, that would be a really easy way for you to help. If you use ubuntu, sort through the /usr/share/icons and see if you can find a bunch of icons that would fit the placeholders
[17:52] <shahriar086> what was in the sketch is now in real term form :)
[17:53] <AliTabuger7> the "we recommend" etc is not functional yet
[17:53] <AliTabuger7> neither are any of the links
[17:53] <shahriar086> yes checked already :P
[17:54] <shahriar086> looks good and sure it will be lot better :)
[17:54] <AliTabuger7> i'm not happy with the "share" icon, but it is a gnome one so i think it's more relevent than a lot of them.
[17:54] <AliTabuger7> You could also help me find an icon for posters, brochurs, videos, tshirts, stickers, and site buttons
[17:56] <shahriar086> well is there any reason to use gnome or kde ?
[17:56] <shahriar086> the idea is to support ubuntu (that also includes kubuntu xubuntu & others right?)
[17:56] <AliTabuger7> gnome/tango/human are all gnu so they won't sue us (human wouldn't anyway probably)
[17:57] <shahriar086> ohh that's a point
[17:57] <AliTabuger7> well its an U buntu site
[17:57] <AliTabuger7> although other gnu icons would work too
[17:57] <shahriar086> :)
[17:57] <AliTabuger7> the current theme is brown and orange and stuff
[17:57] <shahriar086> ok I will look into it
[17:57] <AliTabuger7> so Human icons are actually designed to fit the color scheme
[17:57] <shahriar086> humm I was thinking of green :P
[17:57] <shahriar086> no problem any color will work :)
[17:58] <AliTabuger7> I still have yet to use green in a site i've made
[17:58] <shahriar086> :)
[17:58] <AliTabuger7> people always say i need green, which makes sense on a color wheel, but i never like it
[17:58] <shahriar086> I imagined get (download) Icon to be green.
[17:59] <shahriar086> it does not matter actually which color we use
[17:59] <shahriar086> but to me all ubuntu sites are boring (in terms of color schime, same color )
[17:59] <AliTabuger7> yeah, usually sites stick to 2 colors not including black and white
[17:59] <AliTabuger7> sometime just 1
[18:00] <shahriar086> yes makes it less annoying to the eyes
[18:00] <AliTabuger7> i actually really have to get going to class now
[18:00] <AliTabuger7> bb in a couple hours
[18:00] <shahriar086> I mean I would not like a colorful site with colors bumping everywher
[18:00] <shahriar086> ok have a nice day
[18:03] <AliTabuger7> thanks ttyl
[19:48] <AliTabuger7> i'm back now
[19:49] <shahriar086> welcome back :)
[19:50] <AliTabuger7> hello?
[19:51] <shahriar086> hey welcome back :)
[19:53] <AliTabuger7> hi
[19:53] <AliTabuger7> anything go on while i was gone?
[19:53] <shahriar086> nothing new
[19:54] <AliTabuger7> I kind of expect the activity to pick up as people get excited about finally seeing something done. so far most of the work has been backend stuff, i think.
[19:55] <shahriar086> :)
[19:55] <shahriar086> yes it sure helps to see work in progress :)
[19:59] <shahriar086> hi hubuntu
[20:00] <shahriar086> did you see the homepage? (though not fully functional)
[20:00] <hubuntu> hi shahriar086
[20:00] <hubuntu> I saw it yesterday
[20:00] <shahriar086> ok :)
[20:00] <hubuntu> nice!
[20:00] <shahriar086> Yes. will be nicer :)
[20:00] <hubuntu> cool
[20:00] <hubuntu> that was really a nice surprise :)
[20:01] <shahriar086> :) Yes
[20:01] <AliTabuger7> Did you see it recently hubuntu? I added a newer homepage section, not just the links at the left.
[20:02] <hubuntu> I saw it right now
[20:03] <AliTabuger7> I'm not happy with the way the boxes at the right are themed. I also am displeased with something about the way the icons at the left look but haven't figured it out yet. I also know that I have to find some good Human icons for the hotlinks below the homepage
[20:04] <AliTabuger7> anything you noticed?
[20:04] <hubuntu> I am looking at the menues at the right and it might be an idea to not have them
[20:04] <hubuntu> I mean, I have some resolution problems in ubuntu.ec regarding the right panel in drupal
[20:04] <AliTabuger7> the "create content" ones?
[20:05] <hubuntu> no, the We recommend
[20:05] <AliTabuger7> Ah. Yes that is certainly an option. Right now they don't really look anything like what I had hoped
[20:05] <hubuntu> it depends on how "static" it is related to the middle
[20:06] <shahriar086> humm hubuntu if it gets broken then not needed, but the idea is just perfect, easy access to toprated (or sponsored if any) material
[20:06] <AliTabuger7> The biggest difference is that there shouldn't be really much of any text in there, just thumbnails
[20:06] <hubuntu> the idea is great, yes
[20:06] <hubuntu> we can just make a fixed position for it anyway
[20:08] <AliTabuger7> A few things I'm thinking specifically about the right panel: It should be higher up. This is a restriction because i have two titles, I need to merge the "home" and the about.  I need to theme them better, with less bold colors and roudned corners.   I need icons in it to make it look like it is supposed to.   It could actually be narrower - it might be a little too wide and taking up too much space
[20:09] <hubuntu> it seems though you know your way around theming drupal which is perfect :)
[20:10] <AliTabuger7> I will be needing some kind of way to edit files eventually, but I can do a lot without it. The left thing is just a block, and the homepage is just a node with some fancy html/css
[20:11] <AliTabuger7> For example, I had to host the icons on my site because I couldn't upload them to the houbsi theme directory. I will also need to be able to edit the node.tpl.php to theme the materials
[20:12] <AliTabuger7> I have one concern about future progress. What is the plan on how we are going to get thumbnails?
[20:14] <shahriar086> that means technically? AliTabuger7 ?
[20:15] <AliTabuger7> Well in order to be able to display those small images, we need the website to be able to automatically convert the files uploaded into small 100x100px pngs. This may be extremely difficult with documents, pdf's, svg's, etc since they aren't image files.
[20:17] <AliTabuger7> that's probably more of a question for hubuntu or flannel
[20:17] <shahriar086> humm for documents & pdfs can we ask contributors to make a coverpage and give image of them?
[20:18] <shahriar086> like book stores show book coverpage, and when we click the image of coverpage shows few pages of the book or the description
[20:18] <shahriar086> I am not sure whether that is the right method
[20:18] <AliTabuger7> Thats the only thing that I could think of. I'd imagine that that way would either get annoying or a lot of people will not put up a cover image.
[20:19] <shahriar086> Yes that will happen
[20:19] <AliTabuger7> well flannel is already doing some really fancy stuff with the backend, and its a linux server, and well all know theres nothing linux can't do. so there must be some automated way to snag that image.
[20:20] <shahriar086> Hummm
[20:20] <hubuntu> AliTabuger7, I will give you access to a FTP site
[20:20] <shahriar086> I think its tough lets see what the experts do
[20:20] <hubuntu> do you have ftp access to houbsi?
[20:21] <AliTabuger7> No. I did all that theming through drupal's interface, which I do have admin access to.
[20:21] <hubuntu> ok
[20:21] <hubuntu> let me do some magic here then
[20:39] <AliTabuger7> Now before I go changing too many things like adding the views module. I'd like to understand how exctly this bazaar/database backend flannel is working on interacts with drupal.
[20:39] <hubuntu> ok... I will give you access to a Drupal 5 and 6 installation in my server
[20:39] <hubuntu> that way we have full access and control
[20:39] <AliTabuger7> huh?
[20:39] <hubuntu> please use sftp when accessing the site
[20:40] <AliTabuger7> ok. is nautilus ok for that?
[20:40] <hubuntu> that way we don't have to wait for pep, since he's very busy at the time
[20:40]  * shahriar086 thought magic is supposed to work like abracadabra and puff :P
[20:40] <hubuntu> yeah, nautilus is great for that
[20:40] <hubuntu> I'm just installing drupal 5 and 6
[20:40] <AliTabuger7> I see
[20:40] <hubuntu> and will give ytou access when I'm done
[20:41] <hubuntu> mind that it is my own server and it host other servers, so please be careful :)
[20:41] <AliTabuger7> I actually set up a really pathetic install to test out that theme i read about in the mailing list
[20:41] <AliTabuger7> the only things i'll be chanigng or putting up there is php, css, and html, and the worst that'd do is ruin your version of the website
[20:42] <hubuntu> it's cool
[20:43] <AliTabuger7> If it makes you feel any more comfortable i'm almost 100% unfamiliar with actual scripting. The only reason I can do the php stuff is cuz they have snippets on drupal.
[20:45] <AliTabuger7> hubuntu, what were your thoughts on the thumbnail generation?
[20:47] <AliTabuger7> Actually hubuntu, you don't even really have to give me ftp access to your site. I'm more than capable of setting up a localhost here. You could just upload the current site to bzr and i could make changes there
[20:47] <hubuntu> I want to be able to see it, but I believe it is a good idea and it shouldn't be such a big deal
[20:47] <hubuntu> php can do that kind of magic relatively easy
[20:47] <hubuntu> No, I want an online site, really it is a lot easier and then I can sync it with bzr from my server
[20:48] <AliTabuger7> yeah but i thought they usually used imagemagick which only does image files, but I'll leave that sort of stuff up to you. I'm no good with the programming stuff.
[20:48] <hubuntu> neither am I, but there are ways
[20:48] <AliTabuger7> do you think flannel would know?
[20:51] <hubuntu> I believe he would, yeah
[20:51] <AliTabuger7> I just though cuz he's doing something with python, which of all things must be able to handle this, I believe.
[20:55] <AliTabuger7> So do you want to do the bazaar instead of ftp? You wanted to get a branch up anyway
[20:55] <hubuntu> I give you access to my server with SFTP and then I will sync the directory with bzr
[20:56] <AliTabuger7> Ok. That makes things a little easier for me. Thanks.
[20:56] <hubuntu> then We will have  branch which is public in both senses (as a site and its code)
[20:56] <AliTabuger7> How are you going to sync the database? thats equally as important as the files in most cases
[20:56] <hubuntu> yes, I will have to make a sync every 24 hours or something
[20:57] <hubuntu> I'll find out about that
[20:57] <AliTabuger7> the database file too? thats in a very different directory i think
[20:57] <hubuntu> yes, that would be in a different directory indeed
[20:58] <AliTabuger7> how does the ubuntu drupal package do it?
[20:58] <AliTabuger7> the .deb for installing drupal i think includes a database in it. they must have a place they put the db in bazaar on launchpad
[21:03] <hubuntu> yeah, I'm using a tar file from drupal.org
[21:04] <hubuntu> I have already used the drupal apt installation in another site
[21:04] <AliTabuger7> thats what I always do. i'm just saying there must be a way to put a db in launchpad
[21:11] <hubuntu> yeah, I will figure that out
[21:11] <hubuntu> ;)
[21:57] <hubuntu> ok AliTabuger7 I got both install up and running
[21:57] <hubuntu> I send you an email with login info
[22:07] <hubuntu> now you have full right to the site AliTabuger7
[22:08] <hubuntu> Flannel and shahriar086: Tell me if you need access to the server and I will fix your access
[22:08] <shahriar086> hubuntu: right now I don't need it, thanks
[22:09] <shahriar086> I am not a technical person.
[22:09] <hubuntu> the server can be seen at http://ubuntu.ec/su
[22:09] <hubuntu> JIC ;)
[22:09] <hubuntu> ok I'm off
[22:09] <shahriar086> if needed I will ask for it. (though I thought I was suppsed to work in relation with you)
[22:09] <hubuntu> good night everyone
[22:09] <shahriar086> good night
[22:09] <shahriar086> I am also going off
[22:10]  * shahriar086 is leaving goodnight & day to all
[22:10] <hubuntu> shahriar086, we are to work together
[22:10] <shahriar086> yes hubuntu :)
[22:10] <hubuntu> but we need the DB structure up first
[22:10] <shahriar086> yes That what I thought
[22:10] <hubuntu> Flannel will come up with that
[22:10] <shahriar086> yes heard of it
[22:10] <hubuntu> and then W
[22:10] <shahriar086> yes... waiting for that :)
[22:11] <hubuntu> we will work populating the DB
[22:11] <hubuntu> which is a huge job
[22:11] <shahriar086> Yes. we will start with old diy?
[22:11] <shahriar086> or will communicate with the locos?
[22:11] <hubuntu> we'll have too see about that
[22:11] <shahriar086> ok
[22:11] <hubuntu> I reckon we will rather just upload material we see lying around the Ubuntu Wiki
[22:12] <shahriar086> ok
[22:12] <hubuntu> we will populate the DB first, test how it works
[22:12] <hubuntu> and when we are done with that we will talk to LoCos and stuff
[22:12] <hubuntu> good night shahriar086
[22:12] <hubuntu> :)
[22:12] <shahriar086> ok no problem
[22:12] <shahriar086> good night to you too :)
[22:12] <shahriar086> finally leaving
[22:48] <AliTabuger7> hi everybody!