[00:00] <beterraba> actually, there's an output after a while: Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (0 hosts up) scanned in 103.21 seconds
[00:02] <jarray52> beterabba: You should see something like `inet addr:192.168.*.*` in your ifconfig for one of your interfaces.
[00:04] <beterraba> on wlan0 i see inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>
[00:05] <jarray52> beterraba: Do you have a router?
[00:05] <meshuggah> beterraba, http://www.tcpiputils.com/browse/ip-address/<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[00:05] <beterraba> yes, but i dont have access to it
[00:05] <jarray52> Do you have another machine on the local network?
[00:05] <meshuggah> under dns server, but not sure it would help
[00:05] <beterraba> yes
[00:06] <jarray52> beterraba: Can you ping that machine by its hostname?
[00:06] <beterraba> of course, let me try
[00:09] <beterraba> well.. i think i cant :(
[00:10] <beterraba> thats weird.. i ifconfig both of them. one is <IP_ADDRESS> and the other is <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:10] <beterraba> i try to cross-ping them, but 'request timeout for ..'
[00:12] <jarray52> beterraba: Can you ping by ip address?
[00:12] <jarray52> beterraba: Are both boxes Ubuntu?
[00:12] <beterraba> one is, the other is mac
[00:13] <beterraba> i tryied to ping by ip
[00:13] <jarray52> beterraba: Did that work?
[00:13] <beterraba> nop
[00:13] <jarray52> beterraba: That's a different issue.
[00:14] <mherweg> after installing kernel 3.13.0-53 many drivers in /var/lib/modules are missing -> no sound. with 3.13.0-39 everything is fine
[00:15] <mherweg> /lib/modules   (not /var)
[00:17] <__Myst__> ...how do I fix having two cursors?
[00:18] <uio> Hello, how might I upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 via command line?
[00:19] <Ben64> uio: is there a reason you want 14.10?
[00:19] <beterraba> __Myst__: what do you mean? you have two cursor mouses?
[00:19] <uio> Ben64: Well, 14.04 is having boot issues (ie, will hang every fifth boot or so) and I read that I cannot upgrad directly to 15.04....
[00:20] <__Myst__> Yes, beterraba
[00:20] <beterraba> lol, never heard of it
[00:20] <Ben64> uio: you should work on that problem then
[00:21] <uio> Ben64: True.. I have to no avail....
[00:21] <Ben64> upgrading is unlikely to fix it
[00:22] <uio> uio: I guess this is not officially the channel for it... I thought I'd just ask for the command question. It's a lubuntu. No such issue with xubuntu, but indeed with lubuntu. Hangs at an illuminated screen around grub.
[00:23] <Ben64> illuminated screen around grub? whats that mean
[00:24] <apoplexy_> if i install elementary.io and need help can i ask for help in here
[00:24] <apoplexy_> its the same shit right
[00:24] <dfcnvt> Anybody know of any best media player that CAN play 60fps (excluding the hardware accelerated decoding in VLC)
[00:24] <uio> Ben64: That it hangs at an illuminated screen around the same time that grub would (but does not) appear as grub is set to =0.
[00:25] <Ben64> apoplexy_: no
[00:25] <apoplexy_> Ben64, why not
[00:25] <Ben64> dfcnvt: mpv, mplayer2, mplayer
[00:25] <__Myst__> For some reason no "gnome-terminal -e" will work
[00:25] <Ben64> apoplexy_: because it isn't ubuntu
[00:25] <dfcnvt> A video like this can play so well on my chrome browser in linux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaaNLFFftrs
[00:25] <__Myst__> Either it throws an error or flashes
[00:25] <__Myst__> what should I do?
[00:25] <dfcnvt> Ben64: mpv, I'll check it out.
[00:26] <apoplexy_> but the majority of the commands, etc are the same, right?
[00:26] <uio> apoplexy_: 'Same shit' would presuppose that : 1) it is shit and 2) it is the same....
[00:26] <uio> apoplexy_: Seeing as 1) is false, the statement is untrue....
[00:27] <Ben64> apoplexy_: maybe? still isn't supported here
[00:31] <dr__> Can I adjust the partion size Ubuntu 14.04 -- getting a message boot directory is almost full
[00:32] <meshuggah> dr__, you can with gparted, but i suggest you to do backup of important file first
[00:32] <dfcnvt> Ben64: It doesn't look like it work.   "mpv --fps=60 StarWar60fpsTest.mp4"
[00:33] <Ben64> don't use --fps
[00:33] <dr__> Thanks I have tried that but it did not work
[00:33] <meshuggah> dr__, did u have tried it from a livecd, un an UNMOUNTED partition?
[00:33] <meshuggah> on* an
[00:33] <dfcnvt> Ben64: Even without any arg/opts...It still look like 25fps or something.
[00:34] <Ben64> might be your cpu or gpu being too slow
[00:34] <dfcnvt> Oh no, it's a fast system.
[00:34] <Ben64> or a bad file
[00:34] <EriC^^> dr__: just remove some old kernels from /boot
[00:34] <dfcnvt> No, good file.
[00:34] <Ben64> send it to me
[00:35] <dfcnvt> Just incapable software to make it 60fps on linux system.
[00:35] <Ben64> nope, 60fps works fine
[00:35] <meshuggah> talking about video, any magic i need to know for playing h.264 codec video, on vlc? without lag
[00:35] <Bashing-om> dr__: One removes old kernels that reside in /boot with terminal command ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' .
[00:36] <dr__> I used an install Ubuntu installation disk to start the system and access Gparted
[00:36] <dfcnvt> Then does this youtube video on my browser looked way better than what showed on mpv (media player) on linxu?   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaaNLFFftrs
[00:36] <dfcnvt> why does***
[00:36] <Ben64> who knows, send me the video
[00:36] <dr__> What does a Kernel name look like thats safe to remove
[00:37] <dfcnvt> Ben64: http://en.savefrom.net/1-how-to-download-youtube-video/
[00:37] <dfcnvt> Ben64: paste the link then download 720p
[00:37] <EriC^^> dr__: type uname -r to get your current kernel
[00:38] <meshuggah> dr__, i had success with ext3, ext4, ntfs resizing partition often, if that dont do the job, deleting kernel and/or trimming fat(removing install software you know you dont need) can do the job(example: if u got chrome, opera, firefox, just keep one)
[00:38] <EriC^^> dr__: and dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[00:38] <EriC^^> for the list of kernels installed
[00:40] <Ben64> dfcnvt: the video is 30fps
[00:41] <dr__> Thanks for the quick replies, wife just called me for dinner.  I will try what you have suggested
[00:42] <TechIsCool> Anyone already seen ex machina?
[00:42] <dfcnvt> Ben64: ...Not sure how to get it directly from youtube...1080p60
[00:43] <dfcnvt> Ben64: The left side is mpv & the right is youtube -- http://i.imgur.com/arMKh1B.jpg
[00:43]  * gzcwnk bangs head against wall
[00:44] <Ben64> ok?
[00:45] <meshuggah> TechIsCool, what is it about, deus ex?
[00:45] <dfcnvt> Ben64: I guess it doesn't show very much difference since it's a still picture.   The right side seem very detailed than the left.
[00:45] <TechIsCool> meshuggah: No the movie that was ta sun dance this year
[00:45] <Ben64> not even the same frame
[00:45] <__Myst__> So... My Wi-Fi randomy stops working. Is that normal?
[00:45] <__Myst__> Just suddenly "plop", no connection
[00:45] <__Myst__> Works on other devices
[00:45] <NegativeFlare> __Myst__: of course not
[00:46] <NegativeFlare> Your driver my be messing up
[00:46] <meshuggah> TechIsCool, no i dont know about that
[00:46] <__Myst__> NegativeFlare: I have the official solution for my chipset
[00:46] <__Myst__> from Broadcom
[00:47] <NegativeFlare> heh, that's probably why
[00:47] <NegativeFlare> Broadcom has always had issues with Linux
[00:47] <NegativeFlare> I've always avoided using broadcom chips
[00:49] <Ben64> dfcnvt: got the 60fps version out of youtube, its not even 60fps, its terrible interpolation, try a good source next time
[00:49] <Bashing-om> !bcm | __Myst__
[00:50] <dfcnvt> Ben64: Err, then where's the good source?
[00:50] <Ben64> not from youtube
[00:50] <Symbiosis> Hello. I'm trying to set up apt-get to work through a proxy.  My network configuration is setup such that all traffic has to go through my proxy, else it fails to connect.  I've gotten my browser to work with the proxy, but apt-get keeps failing. Is there a way to fix this?
[00:51] <meshuggah> TechIsCool, how is the movie, it seems not too bad
[00:51] <NegativeFlare> Symbiosis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[00:51] <TechIsCool> meshuggah: I was trying to decide if I was going to see it.
[00:52] <meshuggah> TechIsCool, it is rated 7.8 on imdb, that is not bad, and i like the title, seems like deus ex(but based on deus ex machina, god come from machine)
[00:54] <dcz> hello guys, while i am playing games like Left 4 Dead, i am getting excellent fps, however laptop gets too much heat wheras windows not as much linux, is there any option cool down on linux or not ?
[00:54] <NegativeFlare> dcz: failcontrol
[00:55] <NegativeFlare> erm
[00:55] <NegativeFlare> fancontrol*
[00:55] <NegativeFlare> Just be careful with it
[00:55] <dcz> how do i check it ?
[00:55] <NegativeFlare> dcz: Check the temps?
[00:55] <NegativeFlare> lm-sensors
[00:55] <meshuggah> dcz, if u got nvidia drivers installed, there is still nvidia-settings you can check to put the fan higher
[00:55] <dcz> while in game , i looked at it , and it was about 90 for gpu and 85 for cpus
[00:56] <dcz> yea nvidia gtx 860m
[00:56] <meshuggah> dcz, type <sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings> then run nvidia-settings from terminal or the menu
[00:57] <meshuggah> if u got the drivers installed
[00:57] <dcz> i opened it , where is fan control ?
[00:58] <meshuggah> i dont remember exactly and i cannot check for it currently, but just check the menu
[00:58] <meshuggah> should be in the middle somewhere
[00:59] <Symbiosis> I've figured out my problem, my dns requests when using apt-get are going nowhere due to the network. Is there a way to configure dns requests through a proxy?
[00:59] <meshuggah> i also see that to run from terminal : nvidia-settings -a "[fan:0]/GPUCurrentFanSpeed=100"       seems to put fanspeed to 100%
[01:00] <dcz> isnt it harmful also ?
[01:00] <meshuggah> dcz, probably decrease fan life
[01:01] <meshuggah> dcz, but in the gui nvidia-settings there is an option to put it to auto, so low speed if no playing, high speed if playing and temperature rising
[01:01] <dcz> http://imgur.com/vRJ2p7C,ESz3qBY,QIFmidR
[01:01] <meshuggah> dcz, you can also put GHz of gpu and ram from the same place, to 100%, or auto
[01:01] <dcz> can you look at
[01:02] <meshuggah> fps: 289???
[01:02] <meshuggah> wow
[01:02] <dcz> :D
[01:02] <dcz> yeah
[01:02] <dcz> better then windows , however too much heat
[01:03] <dcz> http://i.imgur.com/QIFmidR.png
[01:03] <meshuggah> dcz, from the games option, can you setup max fps to 60 or 120 or more normal? this would lessen the heat
[01:04] <meshuggah> check thermal settings, powermizer options
[01:04] <meshuggah> dcz, i think thermal settings is for fan speed, powermizer for GHz of ram and gpu, sorry if my human ddr-ram is bad
[01:05] <dcz> There is nothing at thermal settings
[01:05] <dcz> http://i.imgur.com/ESz3qBY.png
[01:05] <meshuggah> dcz, and powermizer?
[01:06] <dcz> http://i.imgur.com/fr4x8bn.png
[01:07] <dcz> there is one more option at PowerMizer, Prefer Maximum Performance
[01:07] <meshuggah> dcz, or you still can send me via mail your computer...i will set it for you....;)
[01:07] <dcz> haha :D
[01:09] <phix> jaxlug?
[01:09] <dcz> thank you for your help
[01:10] <meshuggah> dcz, cya, sorry for my lack of precision
[01:12] <meshuggah> hum, if he come back, nvidia-settings->thermal settings ->enable GPU fan settings
[01:12] <Ben64> mine doesn't let me change that
[01:13] <meshuggah> nvidia driver 349.16 seems to have bug about it
[01:13] <Ben64> running 331
[01:14] <u53j> anyone with calculus knowledge?
[01:14] <Ben64> u53j: wrong channel
[01:15] <meshuggah> ben64 if your gfx card let you do it, try another driver between the 331 and 349, like 346.35 maybe could help
[01:16] <Ben64> meshuggah: not really important to me, just interesting
[01:17] <meshuggah> well, have all a good evening :)
[01:18] <hetakuso> Using the standard installation medium (not mini.iso), is there a way to not install every package? There's no option in the installer
[01:19] <u53j> jk
[01:19] <Flannel> hetakuso: No, the desktop CD installer is an image-based install (not a package based one)
[01:20] <hetakuso> Flannel: oh, I had no idea. That would make sense, then
[01:20] <hetakuso> Thanks
[01:21] <u53j> can i create a chatroom?
[01:22] <Jack_The_Ripper> For dualbooting win7 and mate, does it make a difference which I install first?
[01:23] <sveta> start with win
[01:23] <sveta> it does matter
[01:23] <psusi> hetakuso, there used to be the alternate installer but it went away, and there is still the server installer, but the expierence is the same as with mini.iso only it doesn't have to download all of the packages as they are on the cd
[01:24] <sveta> because ubuntu knows how to install grub but windows does not
[01:24] <Jack_The_Ripper> Ah right. I shall hopefully get ti done in 5 hours...it takes so damm long
[01:24] <hetakuso> psusi: I'll just use the regular installer and then delete about 1,000 packages, then. haha
[01:25] <psusi> hetakuso, like what?  the entire gui? :)
[01:25] <hetakuso> psusi: going to use xfce
[01:25] <psusi> hetakuso, then download xubuntu?
[01:26] <hetakuso> psusi: is that pretty much the same as ubuntu+xfce?
[01:26] <psusi> yea
[01:27] <psusi> ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde, xubuntu = xfce
[01:27] <Daekdroom> ubuntu = unity, and a set of apps that is somewhat similar to GNOME
[01:27] <Daekdroom> Ubuntu GNOME = GNOME
[01:28] <noethics> it's simple
[01:28] <noethics> sudo apt-get purge *unity*
[01:28] <hetakuso> noethics: right, that's what I was going to do, and now I'm looking into xubuntu. Is there a difference?
[01:29] <noethics> i was kidding, though i am on a ubuntu instllation that i removed like 80% of unity
[01:29] <noethics> my dashboard doesnt work
[01:29] <psusi> ubuntu is 99% gnome... only uses unity as the shell instead of gnome-shell, which is easily enough installed
[01:29] <noethics> and um, i would prefer xubuntu but for some reason there's a couple things are are buggy with my nvidia card
[01:29] <m_> Can someone help me get my GUI back? I have Ubuntu Studio 14.04, I just installed Gnome desktop just using the Ubuntu Software Center. When I rebooted, there's no GUI login screen. Can only Ctrl + Alt + F1 to get command prompt.
[01:30] <hetakuso> noethics: yeah, i'm worried things won't work exactly the same with xubuntu. I think I'll just do the same
[01:30] <hetakuso> I've had problems with installing mini.so followed by desktop environments
[01:30] <noethics> hetakuso, i think im an edge case, i would definitely try xubuntu first
[01:31] <psusi> hetakuso, if you want gnome-shell instead of unity, just install it... if you want xfce ( which includes a ton of its own components instead of the gnome ones ), use xubuntu
[01:32] <hetakuso> Alright, then. Let me try that out.
[01:36] <jarray52> Is there a way to get Ubuntu to autoresolve dns names of machines on the local network?
[01:38] <wastrel> point its dns to the local dns server
[01:39] <jarray52> wastrel: What's the easiest way to do that?
[01:39] <wastrel> have the DNCP server on the LAN set it on clients
[01:40] <jarray52> DNCP or DHCP?
[01:40] <wastrel> indeed DHCP
[01:40] <wastrel> typo :[
[01:42] <jarray52> wastrel: My DHCP server sets the correct dns server on all machines except Ubuntu 14.04LTS. Ubuntu seems to like its own DNS server on <IP_ADDRESS>. I suspect it is non-authoritative, but I'm not sure how to check.
[01:43] <gogoat10^2> <<- trolling. how do i install wine
[01:44] <wastrel> jarray52: this is the resolvconf thingus
[01:44] <jarray52> maybe...
[01:44] <Bashing-om> gogoat10^2: Install wine " sudo apt-gt update ;sudo apt-get install wine ' .
[01:44] <wastrel> jarray52: http://askubuntu.com/questions/152593/command-line-to-list-dns-servers
[01:44] <Bashing-om> apt-get install *
[01:44] <wastrel> jarray52: in sort use nm-tool  to look at your dns setup
[01:44] <gogoat10^2> << trollin
[01:45] <gogoat10^2> install *?
[01:45] <gogoat10^2> o .. trolling ^^
[01:45] <EriC^^> they see me trollin..
[01:46] <psusi> jarray52, ubuntu runs its own local dns server ( hence <IP_ADDRESS> ) that caches lookups and directs the real quieries to the correct server, which may change frequently during runtime as you establish and tear down connections
[01:46] <gogoat10^2> %you see me trolling... paTrolling...%
[01:46] <somsip> gogoat10^2: stop now. that's enough
[01:46] <gogoat10^2> ok
[01:46] <gogoat10^2> ++ trolling..
[01:46] <wastrel> jarray52: nm-tool | egrep '(Device|DNS)'
[01:46] <gogoat10^2> does anyone use anything But ubuntu here?
[01:46] <gogoat10^2> thats not a troll Q either
[01:47] <somsip> gogoat10^2: ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:47] <gogoat10^2> like.. why stop at ubuntu
[01:47] <gogoat10^2> o this is help. ok. how about the /bin/dash ln instead of /bin/bash?
[01:47] <gogoat10^2> like why?
[01:48] <gogoat10^2> and is anyone concerned with the kindle/amazon intrests in the ubuntu OS ?
[01:51] <jarray52> wastrel: My DNS is set to <IP_ADDRESS>. I wonder if I manually set that, which causes local DNS to fail.
[01:53] <wastrel> that's google's dns
[01:53] <jarray52> I know.
[01:53] <jarray52> The machines that work are set to my local DNS.
[01:54] <hetakuso> jarray52: like mDNS?
[01:54] <jarray52> mDNS?
[01:54] <hetakuso> jarray52: what do you mean by local DNS?
[01:54] <wastrel> dns server on the LAN
[01:55] <hetakuso> yeah, then you want the nameserver to be set by DHCP
[01:55] <hetakuso> and it probably won't be <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:59] <jarray52> wastrel: Thank you! That command totally allowed me to figure out what the problem was.
[01:59] <jarray52> wastrel: The dns resolution issue is now fixed.
[02:00] <wastrel> ♥
[02:04] <babbb> hello
[02:04] <babbb> I am trying to add my local printer to my cups but i dont know what to type for connection?
[02:05] <witheld> At one point, I installed fglrx-updates. It worked, everything was fine. I uninstalled it. Everything was still fine. I reinstalled it and now, I simply can't use it. Whenever I boot, I'm just using the open source X server with Mesa.
[02:05] <witheld> aticonfig tells me to do aticonfig --init, which creates /etx/X11/xorg.conf which is deleted on reboot
[02:05] <witheld> By _something_
[02:06] <witheld> I don't understand
[02:10] <Matty_r2> How do I give another user permissions to access a share on another machine?
[02:11] <threesixes> Matty_r2, what kind of share, sshfs_fuse, samba, nfs?
[02:11] <Matty_r2> samba
[02:11] <babbb> anyone?
[02:12] <Matty_r2> There is a program on another machine that has a specific account that it uses, and that requires read/write access to the samba share.
[02:12] <threesixes> hang on ill dig up my samba configs
[02:12] <Matty_r2> The permissions on the folder itself has 'nobody' 'nobody'
[02:13] <Destroyer> hi
[02:14] <threesixes> https://gist.github.com/666threesixes666/5505323 Matty_r2 this is old...
[02:14] <Matty_r2> threesixes, the shares it's accessing is auto mounted with smbnetfs
[02:14] <threesixes> 1 is read only, 1 is read write
[02:15] <threesixes> that's the server end, i think the client end doesn't require configs
[02:15] <Destroyer> can anyone hear me'
[02:15] <threesixes> whats up Destroyer
[02:15] <Destroyer> cant talk atm
[02:17] <Matty_r2> threesixes, ok so it's probably just the public setting I need to add
[02:18] <threesixes> that's a gentoo config from 2012, i was boblizar on ubuntu forums, then learned wiki syntax, approximately 1200 commits later im a funtoo wikimod and chat admin =)
[02:18] <Destroyer>  i cant get my PC to work
[02:18] <Ben64> !details | Destroyer
[02:18] <threesixes> whats the problem?
[02:20] <Destroyer> Every time i turn my PC on and try running both windows and ubuntu my computer restarts
[02:21] <threesixes> ...  its 1 or the other, unless you're virtualizing
[02:21] <babbb> I am trying to add my local printer to my cups but i dont know what to type for connection?
[02:22] <Destroyer> what i mean is when i try running either windows or ubuntu it restarts
[02:22] <Matty_r2> threesixes, Does ubuntu create shares differently than via /etc/samba/smb.conf? It appears my shares aren't in the conf file
[02:22] <Matty_r2> I did it via the gui
[02:22] <threesixes> that's for samba 3.x series
[02:23] <threesixes> it could be using the dynamic share features of a file manager, that's a directory i cant think of off the top of my head
[02:24] <threesixes> i haven't touched ubuntu in ages other than using it for install media for rolling release distributions
[02:24] <Destroyer> the only thing i have on the computer im using is Ubuntu
[02:24] <Destroyer> i mean back track 5
[02:26] <jeeves_moss> how do I find out why my netbook won't reboot correctly?
[02:28] <threesixes> jeeves_moss, what is it doing, just hanging?
[02:28] <birch_> jeeves_moss, http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ then use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ so we know your specs. also include your cpu architecture and ubuntu version and GUI
[02:30] <jeeves_moss> threesixes, I turned off thesplash screen, and I can see it get all the way to "system halted", then it refuses to reboot the physical box
[02:33] <dgarstang> Tomcat7 on Ubuntu 14.04... CATALINA_BASE and CATALINA_HOME are _BOTH_ set to /usr/share/tomcat7. Is this normal?
[02:34] <threesixes> jeeves_moss, like birch_ said, post your hardware stuff...  but yeah...  probably http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2009/08/04/howto-fix-linux-hangfreeze-during-reboots-and-restarts/
[02:34] <Silenced_v2> Guys how to get a CLI login screen ?
[02:34] <threesixes> you may need to adjust bios settings
[02:34] <threesixes> disable the lightdm/xdm service Silenced_v2
[02:34] <somsip> !text | Silenced_v2
[02:35] <threesixes> ctrl + alt + f1 to f7 will give getty terminals
[02:35] <jeeves_moss> threesixes, thanks.  I'll have a look.  Trying to get this little netbook to work is turning into a challange
[02:36] <dgarstang> Tomcat7 on Ubuntu 14.04... CATALINA_BASE and CATALINA_HOME are _BOTH_ set to /usr/share/tomcat7. Is this normal?
[02:37] <rafid> i want to work with open source idea
[02:38] <kernelhack> rafid: moreso, what exactly would you like to do? programming, testing etc.
[02:39] <rafid> programming
[02:40] <leo34> i just download progran how do i install it
[02:40] <leo34> is in a jar file
[02:40] <reisio> leo34: what program?
[02:40] <kernelhack> leo34: what is it?
[02:40] <threesixes> java -jar file.jar
[02:40] <kernelhack> rafid: what language you like?
[02:40] <leo34> jenimmotyon
[02:41] <reisio> threesixes: goof :p
[02:41] <leo34> i want to emule andron in ubuntu
[02:41] <threesixes> hi reisio lol
[02:41] <reisio> lawlz
[02:41] <reisio> leo34: what's jenimmotyon have to do with that?
[02:41] <kernelhack> leo34: full english please.
[02:41] <leo34> sorry genimotyon
[02:42] <leo34> i was readiang that in ubuntu foros
[02:42] <rafid> i like c++
[02:42] <reisio> android has an official emulator, it's probably in the repos
[02:42] <leo34> i didin't know it
[02:43] <leo34> what is the name
[02:43] <HellsZNC> join server irc.deadchildren.info join channel #HELLNETjoin server irc.deadchildren.info join channel #HELLNET
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[02:43] <kernelhack> rafid: my suggestion, grab the source code of something that you already use and play around with the code. see what you can do to improve it.
[02:44] <rafid> i want to change in kernel of ubuntu
[02:44] <jakeymage> why do you want to change the kernel..different hardware, or to say you can
[02:45] <kernelhack> rafid: why? is there something wrong with kernel installed from ubuntu repos?
[02:45] <dgarstang> Tomcat7 on Ubuntu 14.04... CATALINA_BASE and CATALINA_HOME are _BOTH_ set to /usr/share/tomcat7. Is this normal?
[02:46] <rafid> i want understand how open source work
[02:47] <rafid_> i want understand how open source work
[02:47] <kernelhack> start with something less complicated than kernel code.
[02:47] <kernelhack> it is very complex for new users.
[02:48] <rafid_> how can i start
[02:48] <kernelhack> as is said just before: my suggestion, grab the source code of something that you already use and play around with the code. see what you can do to improve it.
[02:49] <rafid_> from where i can start
[02:49] <kernelhack> use you favorite search engine and type something like "nano source code".
[02:50] <kernelhack> nano is a nice simple terminal text editor and is good to play around with the source code.
[02:51] <jakeymage> I started with web programming before I tried C
[02:53] <kernelhack> jakeymage: same. seems like an eternity ago now.
[02:57] <Rickb> Hello. I'm new to this
[02:57] <kernelhack> Rickb: hi.
[02:58] <kernelhack> new to ubuntu you mean?
[02:58] <Rickb> Hey kernelhack
[02:58] <Rickb> yeah
[02:58] <Rickb> are you familiar w/ the ubuntu system, kernelhack?
[02:59] <kernelhack> ok then. welcome. i hope ubuntu suits your requirement in linux.
[02:59] <kernelhack> Rickb: very familiar. many years.
[02:59] <Rickb> is it ok if I ask you a for help on something
[02:59] <kernelhack> yes. what is it?
[03:01] <Rickb> Have you ever had a problem inputing data in a terminal. Like all of a sudden your keyboard doesn't work. The cursor flashes in the terminal but I can't type anything
[03:02] <kernelhack> Rickb: no i can't say i have ever experienced that.
[03:02] <kernelhack> is it physical machine or inside a virtual machine?
[03:02] <rafid> kernelhack:i can nano but how to write code
[03:03] <Rickb> Kernelhack, it is in a terminal window
[03:03] <kernelhack> rafid: perhaps search your favorite search engine and get some examples.
[03:03] <kernelhack> rafid: questions like "how to code" are not generic and can not be answered with one line answers like that.
[03:04] <kernelhack> Rickb: odd. tried a different k/board?
[03:04] <bumnit> Hey can soemone help me with installing a program on ubuntu, I keep getting this error, http://pastebin.com/5eWJi9nE.
[03:04] <Rickb> Kernelhack, I'm using a laptop.
[03:04] <bumnit> someone*
[03:05] <kernelhack> odd. did it work before.
[03:05] <kernelhack> ?
[03:05] <Ben64> bumnit: what are you installing, and how
[03:06] <kernelhack> Ben42: have you tried the suggested "apt-get -f install" command?
[03:06] <kernelhack> bumnit: have you tried the suggested "apt-get -f install" command?
[03:06] <bumnit> I am trying to install  SDL v1.2 libraries for a game.
[03:07] <bumnit> Yes I have run that command and i get this error,http://pastebin.com/viZxhKj9
[03:08] <Ben64> bumnit: ok you answered 50% of my questions
[03:08] <kernelhack> bumnit: it seems kernel related.
[03:08] <bumnit> What have I not answered?
[03:09] <kernelhack> like a kernel upgrade has not completed.
[03:09] <bumnit> Ben64: What have I not answered.
[03:09] <bumnit> kernelhack: I ran the command apt-get update and upgrade and i got the same error with the -f
[03:09] <Ben64> bumnit: what are you installing, and how
[03:10] <bumnit> SDL v1.2 but let me get the exact commands I have been trying.
[03:11] <dgarstang> Tomcat7 on Ubuntu 14.04... CATALINA_BASE and CATALINA_HOME are _BOTH_ set to /usr/share/tomcat7. Is this normal?
[03:11] <rafid> kernelhack:how can i play open source and know ubuntu is open source
[03:12] <bumnit> Ben64: "sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian libsdl-image1.2 zlib1g libogg0 libvorbis0a libopenal1 libcurl3"
[03:12] <rafid> kernelhack:how can i play with open source and know ubuntu is open source
[03:12] <Flannel> dgarstang: I hope you're also asking in #tomcat, they're more likely to know what 'normal' is for configuring tomcat.
[03:12] <bumnit> and followed this tutorial as well, http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/01/how-to-install-sdl-12-simple.html
[03:12] <bumnit> it always ends in that -f thing
[03:13] <Ben64> bumnit: well we can't help  you with manually installed stuff like that
[03:13] <bumnit> and when I run the game(assaultcube) it says i need to install the sdl v1.2
[03:13] <bumnit> ok but the error is with the kernal as kernalhack said right?
[03:13] <leetking> when i try to build the kernel 3.18.3 that from kernel.org ,i do 'make install', after 'make modes_install', but it print a error 'gzip: stdout: No space left on device'
[03:13] <bumnit> i cant do an upgrade either without getting that error.
[03:13] <Ben64> bumnit: nope, probably that you overwrote files
[03:14] <Ben64> leetking: so free some space
[03:14] <leetking> but i have 1.2G free
[03:15] <Ben64> not wherever you currently are
[03:15] <bumnit> Ben64: I cant run apt-get upgrade either with out getting "Unmet dependencies. Try using -f." error and then broken pipe when i do that.
[03:15] <Ben64> bumnit: yep
[03:15] <QuantumVacuum> Hello all. I'm running Ubuntu 15.04 with gnome. When I move my cursor to the very top of the screen, it disappears. Any ideas?
[03:16] <QuantumVacuum> not gnome, sorry, unity
[03:16] <kernelhack> bumnit: you are going to have to get dirty with dpkg and force removal of the stubborn packages.
[03:16] <kernelhack> bumnit: might require some tail chasing of deps, but you will get it eventually.
[03:16] <leetking> Ben64: the error 'http://paste.ubuntu.com/11639409/'
[03:16] <Ben64> kernelhack: bad idea
[03:16] <kernelhack> Ben42: why you say that?
[03:17] <kernelhack> Ben64: why?
[03:17] <bumnit> leetking: 1.2G probably is not enough space..
[03:17] <Ben64> because the problem is manually installed software, not the normal packages
[03:17] <apoplexy> what do you guys think about elementary.io ?
[03:17] <apoplexy> is it similar to ubuntu?
[03:17] <Ben64> apoplexy: still not supported here
[03:17] <apoplexy> Ben64: my mom is not supported here
[03:17] <kernelhack> Ben64: can still be manually removed with dpkg.
[03:17] <Ben64> apoplexy: correct
[03:17] <leetking> oh
[03:18] <kernelhack> installed manually or not.
[03:18] <Ben64> kernelhack: incorrect
[03:18] <leetking> tks
[03:18] <kernelhack> Ben64: again, why you say that?
[03:19] <kernelhack> I have done it many times in the past.
[03:19] <Ben64> because you're not looking at the issue here
[03:19] <Ben64> bumnit followed a guide from january 2012 made for 11.04 and 11.10, did it on 14.04 and overwrote some stuff, and thats causing important packages to have problems.
[03:20] <kernelhack> i seriously doubt anyone is going to rectify it without removing that packages causing the problems in the first place. it's simple conflicts which need resolving.
[03:20] <apoplexy> Ben64: would you help me get ubuntu if i wanted to scrap elementary.io
[03:20] <apoplexy> what are the most popular flavours of linux?
[03:20] <kernelhack> apoplexy: depends who you ask.
[03:20] <Ben64> kernelhack: except the packages complaining are not the ones he installed manually, you really need to look at the information that was posted
[03:20] <bumnit> Ben64: i followed that guide long after I have been getting the errors.
[03:20] <leetking> how much space it needs at last
[03:20] <apoplexy> kernelhack: whats your answer?
[03:21] <Ben64> bumnit: you said you follow the guide, and it ends with the problem
[03:21] <kernelhack> apoplexy: opinion = probably ubuntu. but that's not to state it's the best.
[03:21] <apoplexy> kernelhack: what do you think is the best?
[03:21] <kernelhack> Ben64: no but it's giving you a clean start.
[03:22] <jeeves_moss> how do I install chipmunk?
[03:22] <Ben64> apoplexy: this is the ubuntu support channel, ask ##linux for advice on choosing a distro
[03:22] <apoplexy> Ben64: what about elementary
[03:22] <kernelhack> apoplexy: best is determined by a specific users needs and requirement. there is no generic answer.
[03:22] <Ben64> #elementary is their support channel
[03:23] <bumnit> Ben64: No i tried installing that after I installed the first one and got the errors, First i downloaded game .tar and extracted. then installed libraries, gave me that apt-get -f error tried runnign game and said needed sdl 1.2. ran -f comand and got broken pipe...
[03:24] <Ben64> bumnit: why not "sudo apt-get install assaultcube"
[03:24] <bumnit> tried update and upgrade got same error then treid that tutuorial latter in hopes to manualy install sdl. but didnt change anything.
[03:25] <bumnit> That is the old version of assaultcube
[03:25] <bumnit> no longer supported
[03:25] <bumnit> the new one is only available manualy
[03:25] <kernelhack> as good as ubuntu repos are, sometimes you will find this is the case. old/outdated packages.
[03:26] <Ben64> well you followed a tutorial from 2012
[03:26] <bumnit> True, if i could upgrade i can check for new ones but tahts giving me the -f error also
[03:26] <Ben64> so... undo all that, then come back
[03:27] <kernelhack> bumnit: go back through dpkg logs and have a look what exactly happened.
[03:28] <kernelhack> just use cat
[03:29] <meshuggah> bumnit : http://www.playdeb.net/software/assaultcube
[03:34] <apoplexy> Ben64: my elementary is not working
[03:34] <bumnit> This looks like the problem: http://pastebin.com/ctsNQUNm
[03:34] <apoplexy> im considering getting ubuntu
[03:34] <apoplexy> :]
[03:35] <apoplexy> im assuming a noob could come here and ask support questions?
[03:35] <bumnit> What is the linux image?
[03:35] <Ben64> apoplexy: about ubuntu, the questions can come from someone with any amount of skill
[03:35] <histo> apoplexy: yes
[03:35] <apoplexy> ok
[03:35] <Ben64> bumnit: the kernel
[03:35] <apoplexy> ubuntu would be a solid 1st flavour for a linux noob i assume?
[03:35] <histo> apoplexy: you could say so
[03:36] <apoplexy> when people try diferent flavours, do the commands carry over from flavour to flavour?
[03:36] <apoplexy> or is everything completely different
[03:36] <bumnit> Ben64: So a kernal upgrade didnt install fully?
[03:36] <Ben64> apoplexy: they're all linux, so they have a lot in common
[03:36] <Ben64> bumnit: possibly
[03:37] <apoplexy> ok Ben64, thank you. btw im not a troll :] i've recently gotten into learning how to code and really want to step my computer knowledge game up
[03:37] <bumnit> Is there a way to fix that?
[03:37] <Ben64> apoplexy: i didn't say you were
[03:38] <Ben64> bumnit: pastebin the outputs of "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:38] <Alkalino> hello! I typed "unity" in terminal, now the wallpaper is blank xD how do I fix that ? :D
[03:39] <bumnit> Sure, and is there a way i can search and delte all of that linux-image-3.13.0-53-generic file then re run the upgrade?
[03:39] <Ben64> bumnit: wait till we find the problem
[03:40] <john_doe_jr1> When I connect I use a ssh -y username@host for x11 forwarding…is there any way I can put this in my ssh config file?
[03:45] <dgarstang> Tomcat7 on Ubuntu 14.04... CATALINA_BASE and CATALINA_HOME are _BOTH_ set to /usr/share/tomcat7. Is this normal?
[03:47] <bumnit> Ben64: here you go: http://pastebin.com/6SszUK2d
[03:48] <Ben64> bumnit: now "sudo apt-get install linux-image-extra-3.13.0-53-generic linux-image-3.13.0-53-generic linux-image-generic"
[03:51] <bumnit> This ones intresting.. http://pastebin.com/tKdsxUUd
[03:52] <zorlac> hello all
[03:53] <bumnit> Ben64: This ones intresting.. http://pastebin.com/tKdsxUUd
[03:53] <Ben64> bumnit: what did you do with linux-image-generic
[03:53] <Ben64> oh, and you need to clear space
[03:53] <histo> zorlac: hello
[03:54] <zorlac> hey i found something strange in my apache logs, i was wonding if anyone in here could help me and maybe tell me what it is
[03:54] <zorlac> website.com:80 <IP_ADDRESS> - - [08/Jun/2015:14:49:40 +1200] "P\xf4\x9b\x1f\x81~/\xfa\xbc\xbbS\xa4\x97\xb8\xdd9\xfda,{\xads\v\xeaPtAI\x86\xd4\xec8\xe6\xa7\x81\xcd+\xd7|\x01X\x17\xca\rl" 400 0 "-" "-"
[03:54] <zorlac> Hey histo
[03:54] <Ben64> bots trying to exploit stuff
[03:54] <EriC^> zorlac: looks like shell code
[03:54] <zorlac> that what i thought
[03:55] <zorlac> anyway of figuring out what it is? or trying ot do?
[03:55] <Ben64> not worth it usually
[03:56] <zorlac> fairenough
[03:56] <histo> zorlac: someone trying to exploit
[03:58] <Bumnit_> Ben64: Sorry my irc client crashed.
[03:59] <Ben64> Bumnit_: you need to free up some space
[03:59] <Bumnit_> Ben64: oh right, I have 584gb free.
[03:59] <Ben64> not on /boot probably
[03:59] <Bumnit_> Ben64: its on the same hard drive?
[03:59] <Ben64> pastebin the output of "df -h"
[04:00] <histo> Bumnit_: sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:01] <Bumnit_> a
[04:01] <Bumnit_> "/dev/sda1                  228M  222M     0 100% /boot"
[04:01] <Ben64> yep
[04:01] <Bumnit_> Why is it not using the 500+gigs available?
[04:01] <Ben64> because you made a partition for /boot, and made it 228MB
[04:02] <Bumnit_> Can I Increase the partition size?
[04:02] <Ben64> possibly, or you can remove old kernels using the command histo said
[04:03] <netcom> hola
[04:04] <dupingping> hi everyone,
[04:05] <EriC^> Bumnit_: you can always just use /boot on the same partition if you don't mind losing the 228mb partition
[04:05] <EriC^> 228mb is pretty tiny
[04:05] <Bumnit_> I get this error with the auto-remote command: http://pastebin.com/B2eLeCkA
[04:05] <Bumnit_> Yeah I dont know why I did that.
[04:05] <dupingping> who knows about self-extractor?
[04:05] <dupingping> who knows about self-extractor on ELF?
[04:06] <Bumnit_> I see the files linus image generic files in the boot folder , i could try deleteing them manualy
[04:06] <Bumnit_> linux*
[04:06] <lucas> hi
[04:06] <histo> Bumnit_: does it remove the packages?
[04:06] <ls007> duplicate mount points are created for the external hard drive whenever the computer goes to sleep mode. any solution .
[04:07] <Bumnit_> histo: the auto-remove command? That is everything it did on the patebin. dont think it removed them.
[04:08] <EriC^> Bumnit_: try sudo apt-get -f install
[04:09] <EriC^> maybe it can't write the config files for the new kernels, you can manually delete a couple old vmlinuz and initrd files
[04:09] <EriC^> and then use sudo apt-get purge <kernel> to completely remove them
[04:09] <Bumnit_> EriC^: We have already tried that. Thats the whole problem im having.http://pastebin.com/viZxhKj9
[04:10] <Bumnit_> belive that commands not working becuase there is not enough space in the partition.
[04:10] <EriC^> yeah, so delete a couple vmlinuz and initrd to have enough space
[04:10] <EriC^> then purge them properly
[04:11] <xentity1x> hey can anyone help me figure out how to get ubuntu to detect my alternate minitor
[04:11] <Bumnit_> I see a bunch of "initrd.img-3.13.0-39-generic" files in there I could possibly delete but it looks like there are cfg files with it and not sure which ones go with what
[04:11] <xentity1x> monitor
[04:11] <Ben64> Bumnit_: just delete the oldest, biggest files
[04:11] <EriC^> Bumnit_: delete the initrd and vmlinuz of the old kernel so you have enough space
[04:12] <EriC^> Bumnit_: nevermind the config files
[04:13] <Bumnit_> well I deleted all of them....
[04:13] <Ben64> don't restart then....
[04:13] <EriC^> ok, type sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[04:15] <Bashing-om> EriC^: Bumnit_ I have had good success with 'dpkg -P linux-image-3XXXX " when /boot is at capacity .
[04:15] <Bumnit_> http://pastebin.com/7jL3Jx60
[04:16] <gzcwnk> o^O
[04:16] <Ben64> didn't delete enough?
[04:16] <Ben64> Bumnit_: whats the line from 'df -h' now
[04:16] <Bumnit_> delted a lost, but still at 100%...
[04:17] <Ben64> how did you delete
[04:20] <Bumnit_> Ben64: opend nautilus as root and deleted files
[04:20] <histo> hopefully only the old kernels
[04:20] <Bumnit_> histo: oops
[04:20] <EriC^> Bumnit_: using shift + delete ?
[04:20] <Bumnit_> EriC^: just delete
[04:20] <histo> Bumnit_: did you delete everything in /boot?
[04:21] <EriC^> look for .Trash-0 in /boot
[04:21] <Bumnit_> histo:  no just all the kernels
[04:21] <EriC^> press ctrl+h it might show up
[04:21] <Ben64> Bumnit_: you shouldn't open nautilus as root
[04:22] <Bumnit_> Ben64: why not?
[04:22] <FantastiquePlast> Does the latest version of Ubuntu still have integrated search with Amazon.com?
[04:22] <QuantumVacuum> 15.04 does :(
[04:22] <Ben64> Bumnit_: because you shouldn't
[04:22] <QuantumVacuum> well I should have reserved my judgement
[04:23] <ls007>  duplicate mount points are created for the external hard drive whenever my computer returns from the sleep mode. any way to solve this problem ?
[04:24] <EriC^> ls007: what do you mean by duplicate mount points?
[04:25] <EriC^> 2 mountpoints in /media/user/.. ?
[04:26] <ls007> like , my if the directory for the hard drive is 'My Passport' in /media/ then a new folder is created named 'My Passport1'. the old folder stops working.
[04:26] <Bumnit_> Ben64: sorry. Ok so delete permenantly the files from trash and put latest kernal back in boot. Now patition is at 35%
[04:26] <EriC^> ls007: in /media or /media/user ?
[04:26] <ls007> in /media/user
[04:26] <histo> Bumnit_: including the running kernel?
[04:27] <Bumnit_> histo: idk what the running kernel is.
[04:27] <EriC^> ^ good idea
[04:27] <EriC^> type uname -r
[04:27] <histo> Bumnit_: no apt-get autoremove and reinstall the current kernel
[04:27] <histo> s/no/now/
[04:27] <ls007> when again the computer recovers from the sleep mode then again new folder is created named ' My Passport2' .
[04:28] <Bumnit_> histo: autoremove still get apt-get -f error should I run it?
[04:28] <EriC^> ls007: did you modify anything with the program disks ?
[04:28] <histo> Bumnit_: you can now
[04:28] <ls007> no
[04:29] <EriC^> ls007: try typing disks in the dash and click on the partition and the cog below it and edit mount options
[04:29] <Bumnit_> looks like its working...
[04:31] <ls007> ok
[04:32] <ls007> automatic mount point is on , what should i edit ?
[04:33] <EriC^> ls007: same here
[04:33] <EriC^> which de are you using?
[04:33] <EriC^> nevermind
[04:33] <Bumnit_> Ok it did something this time but still gave me an error.. http://pastebin.com/JPHWXRwz
[04:34] <Bumnit_> and my boot partition only went up to 50%
[04:34] <EriC^> ls007: what mount options do you have?
[04:34] <EriC^> ls007: mine has this nosuid,nodev,nofail,noauto,x-gvfs-show
[04:34] <Bumnit_> Ben64: histo ^^
[04:35] <ls007> ya same here , but automatic mount is on
[04:36] <EriC^> Bumnit_: type uname -r please
[04:36] <Bumnit_> EriC^: 3.13.0-46-generic
[04:37] <Bumnit_> EriC^: which is the one i left in the boot folder
[04:38] <EriC^> ok, type sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-3.13.0-52-generic +linux-image-3.13.0-46-generic
[04:39] <Bumnit_> EriC^: http://pastebin.com/sXrNWrPu
[04:40] <thatkid> How can I install gnome-sound-applet?
[04:41] <EriC^> Bumnit_: ok, try sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-52-generic
[04:42] <Bumnit_> EriC^: http://pastebin.com/2xAdTCAm
[04:43] <EriC^> Bumnit_: ok, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.13.0-52-generic
[04:43] <EriC^> then try to purge it again
[04:44] <Bumnit_> ok, it installed..
[04:45] <EriC^> ok try purging again
[04:45] <thatkid> How can I install gnome-sound-applet? i couldn't find the package for it
[04:45] <Bumnit_> and purged..
[04:45] <Bumnit_> done
[04:45] <EriC^> Bumnit_: ok, type dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[04:45] <EriC^> Bumnit_: do you have pastebinit?
[04:46] <linuxuz3r> anyone developing for steam
[04:46] <Bumnit_> EriC^: what?
[04:46] <EriC^> Bumnit_: it's a program that pastes stuff
[04:46] <EriC^> like dpkg -l | grep linux-image | pastebinit
[04:46] <EriC^> and it gives you a link to where it's pasted
[04:47] <Bumnit_> no I just use the website
[04:47] <Bumnit_> EriC^: http://pastebin.com/f060cpY4
[04:49] <EriC^> Bumnit_: ok, does sudo apt-get autoremove remove them?
[04:50] <Bumnit_> looks like its removing them
[04:51] <Bumnit_> or not.. bunch of errors.
[04:52] <Bumnit_> maybe,, im not sure.
[04:52] <EriC^> Bumnit_: try Bashing-om 's command
[04:52] <EriC^> sudo dpkg -P <linux-image-....>
[04:53] <uncle_ben> i just ran btrfs filesystem defragment -v -c -r -f and at the end it printed, "total 1 failures."  where do i find more information about this failure?
[04:54] <Bumnit_> EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11640969/
[04:57] <Bashing-om> EriC^: What are your thoughts ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' ??
[04:57] <Bumnit_> EriC^: for all or should i leave the latest?
[04:57] <EriC^> Bashing-om: -f 3 or -f2?
[04:59] <EriC^> hmm f3 works here, but it's the 2nd field
[04:59] <EriC^> *shrug*
[04:59] <Bumnit_> if I have to uninstall each one seperatly i will. just want to get it working.
[04:59] <Bashing-om> EriC^: I think we want the 3rd field . But, but, not sure what will result for sure with the state the package manager in presently .
[04:59] <EriC^> Bashing-om: sounds like a good idea
[05:00] <Bumnit_> should they all be removed or should i leave certian ones?
[05:00] <pavlos> Bumnit_, I wrote an article a year ago, it may help ... http://azloco.org/node/183
[05:00] <Bashing-om> EriC^: I hope if worst comes to worst we can individually re-install an old kernel and then purge it .
[05:01] <EriC^> Bumnit_: try Bashing-om 's command
[05:02] <Bumnit_> "all but the newest two newest"
[05:05] <Bumnit_> how do i view which one im currently using again?
[05:06] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: 'uname -r '
[05:06] <Bumnit_> thx
[05:07] <Bumnit_> it says im using 46 and 53 is the latest in the list. should i remove 53,46 both all?
[05:08] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: I think we should hold what we have and focus on fixing what is broke .
[05:08] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: Is this not fixing it?
[05:10] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Working on it ... let's see a current status ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[05:12] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11641174/
[05:12] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: I can try running my original command and install a program if you think it will work now?
[05:15] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Patience; This is what happens when we go behind the package managers back. Now we have to straighten things back up and make the package manager happy . I be back in a tic look'n at the latest "dpkg" .
[05:15] <Bumnit_> kk
[05:22] <anshprat> hi, the stable ruby in trusty is still 1.9.3-p484, whereas ruby 1.9.3 has been EOL'ed https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2015/02/23/support-for-ruby-1-9-3-has-ended/
[05:22] <anshprat> ruby2.0 still brings in ruby as dependency :!
[05:22] <dgarstang> This is INSANE.   I am crafting up our next sequence of events.
[05:29] <Bumnit_> thats alright, im backing up important files...
[05:33] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: So far 2 modules to work/remove, OK, what about the headers ? show ' ls -al /usr/src | pastebinit ' .
[05:34] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11641601/
[05:34] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: What kernel are you presently booting ?
[05:35] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: 3.13.0-46-generic
[05:35] <mulch> mulch
[05:36] <mulch> hi
[05:36] <mulch> anyone here?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> mulch: 1600 users are
[05:37] <mulch> 29/m bored anyone wanna chat
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> !ot | mulch
[05:45] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: ' sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-52 ; sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-52-generic ; sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.13.0-52-generic ;  sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.2.0-23-generic-pae ; sudo rm /boot/linux-image-extra-3.13.0-39-generic ;  sudo rm /boot/linux-image-extra-3.13.0-40-generic ;  sudo rm /boot/linux-image-extra-3.13.0-43-generic ; sudo rm /boot/linux-image-extra-3.13.0-44-generic ; sudo apt-get -f install .
[05:46] <Bumnit_> o.O
[05:48] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11641711/
[05:48] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Yeah, took a bit of time to finger that out too ! One more to go when ya run all that .
[05:49] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11641711/
[05:50] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: All right. I am not surprised at not found . Did 'apt-get -f install' complete ?
[05:57] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: sorry didnt see your post, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11641966/
[05:58] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_:  K ;
[05:59] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Look'n Good ! .. Ok ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' . and then maybe a bit of clean up .
[06:01] <Bumnit_> its doing stuff that looks somewhat correct :D
[06:02] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: May take a bit of time 248 updates ! patience .
[06:02] <Bumnit_> ik but its actualy updating for once, im excited.
[06:04] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: :) ; I know that feeling !
[06:10] <Bumnit_> uh oh.. it froze on conecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <hetakuso> It seems that lightdm doesn't set X authorization (cookie method) by default, is that correct?
[06:12] <Bumnit_> D: its not moving
[06:12] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: We wait . and fingers crossed .
[06:17] <Bumnit_> ha it moved! phew
[06:18] <Bumnit_> alright nap time.
[06:18] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Uh Huh .. long past my nap time, But I just got to know !
[06:19] <Bumnit_> yeah, what time is it there anyways?
[06:19] <Bashing-om> I be at GMT -6 ,, it be 01:19 here .
[06:20] <Bumnit_> same here :/
[06:20] <Bumnit_> wait am or pm?
[06:21] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: It be the AM in the night . Ya going to miss yer beauty sleep ?
[06:21] <Bumnit_> lol, yeah same its am. thanks for staying up and helping me tho.
[06:21] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: You said it was important !
[06:22] <Bumnit_> it is.
[06:22] <Bumnit_> Thats why im up at 1 am on monday to fix it.
[06:25] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: :) ; Just a bit of cleanup ( we hope, hope, hope ) .
[06:26] <tristian> anyone want to teach a newbie how to compile and exactly what is needed to execute make make install
[06:27] <harishkrupo> tristian, there is no 'exact' method or dependencies for make and make install
[06:27] <harishkrupo> tristian, it depends on what you have in your system
[06:27] <harishkrupo> tristian, but the general procedure is ./configure , make and make install
[06:28] <tristian> been tryin to get BIMP  in Gimp
[06:28] <VTS> Tristam, there shuold be a README in the sources that tell you what to do
[06:28] <tristian> they suck and didnt tell me where to put anything
[06:28] <harishkrupo> ./configure will print out all the dependencies that are required but not installed
[06:28] <Bumnit_> what exactly is ./configure and make make install doing. setting configuration settings in os somewhere?
[06:28] <harishkrupo> and always read the Readme first
[06:28] <VTS> tristian what do you mean 'put anything'?
[06:29] <Bumnit_> nvm idc
[06:29] <harishkrupo> ./configure will check for dependencies that the programs requires like gcc, g++ libraries...
[06:29] <tristian> abt to try
[06:29] <harishkrupo> ./configure will create a make file if it succeeds to find everything
[06:30] <harishkrupo> make will read the makefile and compile the source code
[06:31] <harishkrupo> and make install (install is a target) will read the makefile and install the compiled programs
[06:31] <VTS> tristian, looks like you just "make && make install": http://kosiara87.blogspot.fi/2014/07/ubuntu-1404-install-bimp-batch-image.html
[06:31] <tristian> sounds easy
[06:32] <tristian> not used to linux yet sorry jus left windows
[06:32] <tristian> so the comand is slowing me down
[06:32] <VTS> tristian, that's why there's this channel - so you can ask ;)
[06:33] <tristian> i love u guys at night
[06:33] <tristian> the day people make me feel so dumb maybe i am but i shouldnt feel that way online for pete sakes
[06:34] <tristian> well brb tryin to fig the next line
[06:34] <harishkrupo> day people? it is day in my place
[06:34] <VTS> 9:34am here too
[06:34] <tristian> its night here in Houston Tx
[06:34] <tristian> sorry
[06:34] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Status ? still doing updates ?
[06:34] <VTS> lol Texas
[06:35] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: still updaiting away.
[06:35] <Bumnit_> I dont think i will be putting this into a paste for you, lol.
[06:35] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: patience Bashing-om !
[06:36] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Ha ha . All I want to know is the bottom line ... all 0's .
[06:37] <Bumnit_> wow I never knew this many updates was possible. guess my automatic updates werent working.
[06:38] <Bumnit_> hey its done!
[06:38] <Bumnit_> no errors! D
[06:39] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om:
[06:40] <tristian> no such file or directory
[06:40] <tristian> and i know i put it there
[06:40] <tristian> super frustrated
[06:40] <VTS> tristian, after which command, in which directory, after which a couple of lines.. :D
[06:41] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: it worked
[06:41] <tristian> the root i think
[06:41] <tristian> gonna take a break guys
[06:41] <tristian> ill be bak later thanks
[06:41] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Making good progress, Let's do : ' sudo update-grub ' and then show me that the links to the kernels now exist : 'ls -al / | pastebinit ' .
[06:43] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root         33 Jun  7 23:29 initrd.img.old -> boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-53-generic
[06:43] <Bumnit_> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root         30 Jun  7 23:29 vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-53-generic
[06:44] <VTS> that's one old kernel
[06:44] <Bumnit_> 53 is the new one
[06:44] <VTS> yea, but 3.13.x
[06:45] <Bumnit_> i was on 2.3 or something earlier
[06:48] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Outstanding, looking good, cleanup time ! ' sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get autoremove ; dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' .
[06:48] <weet> As a new user is it best to go with 14.04.2 LTS or is 15.04 fine?
[06:49] <Ben64> i'd go with 14.04, since its LTS, but its up to you
[06:49] <weet> wont be doing anything too hardcore with it, always used windows
[06:49] <weet> so yeah 14.04 it is thank you
[06:49] <Bashing-om> weet: "As a new user' Go fro 14.04 .. Long term support .. stable !
[06:49] <weet> thanks
[06:49] <Ben64> 14.04 is supported until April 2019
[06:49] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: all done. no problems.
[06:49] <Ben64> 15.04 is supported until January 2016
[06:51] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Great .. happy trails to you .. and let's not do this again .. keep up with the updates and keep the package manager in a happy happy state of mind !
[06:52] <Bumnit_> no more installing kernals when boot is full?
[06:52] <Bumnit_> how do i check what kernal im using?
[06:52] <Bumnit_> usomething
[06:52] <Bumnit_> -r
[06:52] <VTS> uname -a
[06:53] <Bumnit_> close enough
[06:53] <VTS> well, -r just brings the version part
[06:53] <VTS> -a is everything
[06:53] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: When you install a new kernel do: ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' to remove the old kernels .
[06:53] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to increase network link bandwith ?
[06:53] <Bumnit_> 3.13.0-46-generic #79-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 10 20:08:14 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux should i restart?
[06:54] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Yeah , reboot .. I have seen it take 2 // and you should come up on the -53 kernel .
[06:55] <blackflow> kokut: isn't it auto-configured for maximum?
[06:55] <PCatinean> Hello everyone
[06:56] <VTS> Helloooo
[06:56] <ubuntu791> hello
[06:56] <PCatinean> Any advice on what is the best way to get the latest skye working on Ubuntu with everything working (Camera, Screenshare etc)
[06:56] <PCatinean> ?
[06:57] <PCatinean> Download from site and install .deb?
[06:57] <ubuntu791> how can i get my bleuthoot wrking on ubuntu 15.04 gnome 64 ?
[06:57] <ubuntu791> i can't find any topic on that issue
[06:58] <kokut> blackflow: its set to 100mb/s and i've got 300
[06:59] <xangua> PCatinean: the recommended way is to enable the partner repository and install it from the software centre
[06:59] <xangua> !partner
[06:59] <kokut> i'm trying sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full autoneg off and it says "Invalid argument" :\
[06:59] <PCatinean> Okay then if that is the recommended way I will do that, thank you xangua !
[07:01] <PCatinean> xangua, isn't it the one I ticked in the repositories int he gui named Canonical?
[07:01] <PCatinean> Strangely enough it appears in apt-cache search skype but not in software center
[07:01] <ubuntu791> how can i get my bleuthoot wrking on ubuntu 15.04 gnome 64 ? hp laptop
[07:01] <ubuntu791> please help
[07:03] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: Ha! it finaly works perfectly, thank you so much. Your a life saver.
[07:04] <blackflow> kokut: for some reason it's limited to 100MBps. which NIC is that? Upstream router limiting link-level options?
[07:04] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: I am breaking my arm patting myself on the back .
[07:04] <kokut> blackflow: no, i'm on ubuntu, the other computers in the network are already configured
[07:05] <Bumnit_> haha, well goodnight!
[07:05] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: :) rest well .. come back more often; we do have fun here .
[07:06] <blackflow> kokut: pastebin 'ethtool eth0'
[07:07] <kokut> blackflow:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
[07:07] <rhagu> Hi, can I trust this software to connect with my ubuntu computer: http://tightvnc.com/download-old.php  ?
[07:07] <harishkrupo_> trust?
[07:08] <blackflow> kokut: which NIC is that?
[07:08] <kokut> Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full  100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
[07:08] <kokut> blackflow: Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full   100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full  does this mean that i'm not able to use the 300mb?
[07:08] <blackflow> kokut: apparently. which NIC is that?
[07:09] <harishkrupo> kokut, yes
[07:10] <harishkrupo> kokut, lspci -v, this will give you the name and model of you ethernet card
[07:10] <blackflow> lspci | grep -i eth    is ehough
[07:11] <marlinc> My system can't resolve hostnames in my /etc/hosts its a Ubuntu Desktop 15.04 installation
[07:11] <blackflow> marlinc: pastebin an example
[07:12] <kokut> blackflow: Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N + WiMAX 6150
[07:12] <marlinc> Of what exactly?
[07:12] <marlinc> A DNS lookup?
[07:12] <marlinc> And the matching hosts file entry?
[07:13] <blackflow> marlinc: for instance, yes
[07:13] <marlinc> https://gist.github.com/Marlinc/64bfdbf3e9cea682eadc
[07:13] <blackflow> kokut: well it's wifi, you've got maximum there already. in fact, I doubt you'll get over 50Mbps in practice
[07:14] <kokut> blackflow: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
[07:15] <blackflow> kokut: that's more like it, I was kinda confused you've got wifi at eth0
[07:15] <blackflow> marlinc: I don't think nslookup considers /etc/hosts
[07:15] <blackflow> can you ping the host or otherwise access it?
[07:16] <marlinc> Pinging does work
[07:16] <blackflow> marlinc: so resolving works okay
[07:16] <blackflow> (if you pinged by name?)
[07:17] <marlinc> Yes, I pinged by the hostname
[07:17] <blackflow> marlinc: there.
[07:17] <marlinc> Chrome does work sometimes, but not always
[07:17] <marlinc> Do you know of any way to fix it? Because it has always worked
[07:17] <blackflow> marlinc: yeah, I've noticed that Chromium sometimes does its own DNS or something... well, what else do you expect from spyware :)
[07:19] <VTS> Chromium = spyware
[07:19] <VTS> that's funny
[07:20] <ubuntu791> how can i get my bleuthoot wrking on ubuntu 15.04 gnome 64 ? hp laptop
[07:21] <ubuntu791> No adapters found
[07:22] <blackflow> kokut: according to the docs for RTL8101E, that's a 10/100Base-T card, ie. 100MBps is all you can get
[07:23] <kokut> blackflow: its fine i guess, ty
[07:29] <bindi> 100MB is a lot :-)
[07:30] <bindi> especially per second
[07:32] <johndave> hi to all good afternoon
[07:33] <blackflow> bindi: regardless of the B typo, it's still bits :)  the convention for MB per second is MB/s
[07:35] <johndave> anybody can help me? this is always my problem every time i upgrade my system from fresh install disqus comment or website do not load. such as blogger.com and disqus
[07:36] <johndave> but before I do apt-get upgrade it was still working I can browser blogger and disqus
[07:36] <leeyaa> hello
[07:37] <johndave> and when I upgrade my system It doesn' work anymore
[07:37] <hey> aaaa~
[07:37] <johndave> hi leeyaa
[07:37] <ikonia> johndave: whats the actual problem ?
[07:38] <johndave> ikonia, OK here it, when I upgrade my system some websites do not load, example blogger.com or disqus comment box do not load.
[07:38] <PCatinean> ikonia, yesterday worked, apparently the automatic partitioning system allocates the number of physical memory to swap and the rest just one partition ext4
[07:39] <ikonia> johndave: define do not load
[07:39] <ikonia> PCatinean: ok ?
[07:39] <johndave> ikonia, but before I do apt-get upgrade, everything is working fine
[07:39] <ikonia> johndave: define do not load
[07:39] <PCatinean> just wanted to mention that
[07:39] <ikonia> mention what ?
[07:39] <johndave> ikonia, uhm the full website do not appear...
[07:39] <ikonia> johndave: does any of the website appear ?
[07:39] <blackflow> johndave: stupid question, but, do you restart the browser after upgrade?
[07:39] <johndave> ikonia, sorry my english is terrible
[07:40] <hey> So,try another browser?
[07:40] <ikonia> johndave: what is the error you get when you try to open one of the broken websites ?
[07:41] <johndave> ikonia, yes other website appear like my favorite site gsmarena or mynokiablog, but If i am going to comment disqus commentbox does not appear...
[07:41] <johndave> blackflow, yes I did restart and still the same
[07:41] <ikonia> johndave: can you give me a link to one of the broken URL's please
[07:42] <johndave> hey, i already tried firefox and google chrome
[07:42] <johndave> ikonia go to mynokiablog.com then click any article, then scroll to disqus commentbox,
[07:43] <ikonia> johndave: can you please take a screenshot
[07:43] <hey> download some large files,is works?
[07:44] <ikonia> johndave: lets see what you see
[07:44] <johndave> hey, yes i can download large files, i even downloaded firefox recently and also installed dropbox
[07:44] <ikonia> johndave: downloaded firefox ?
[07:44] <ikonia> firefox is managed by the ubuntu package manager
[07:45] <johndave> ikonia, yes I downloaded firefox.
[07:45] <blackflow> well that explains it.
[07:45] <ikonia> johndave: is that the version of firefox you are using ?
[07:45] <johndave> yes It is from ubuntu package manager
[07:45] <crazyhorse18> if i go ls -b /some/dir/*.tar.gz   and i get a single file back, how can i untar it in one line?
[07:46] <johndave> ikonia, should i remove it?
[07:46] <crazyhorse18> i tried ls -b /some/dir/*.tar.gz | tar zxvf   but it didn't work
[07:46] <ikonia> crazyhorse18: | tar xv
[07:46] <ikonia> johndave: no
[07:46] <johndave> ok
[07:46] <blackflow> crazyhorse18:   | xargs tar xzvf
[07:47] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: "find /some/dir -name '*.tar.gz' -exec {} \; "
[07:47] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: typo! "find /some/dir -name '*.tar.gz' -exec tar xvf {} \; "
[07:47] <johndave> ikonia, my laptop is not old, this was even my problem with my ancient laptop.....
[07:47] <leeyaa> i have this short script to start/stop a nodejs application using start-stop-daemon http://paste.ubuntu.com/11643341/ i would like to redirect stderr and stdout to a log file i tried with 1>>$APPLOG_FILE 2>>$ERRLOG_FILE but it is not working
[07:47] <ikonia> johndave: can you please take a screen shot, so we can see what you see
[07:47] <leeyaa> what am i missing here ?
[07:48] <TJ-> johndave: Are you behind a HTTP proxy, maybe in a country with a restrictive network policies?
[07:48] <crazyhorse18> blackflow that worked
[07:49] <blackflow> crazyhorse18: but the find command that TJ- gave is actually wiser
[07:49] <johndave> ikonia, ok i will take screenshot, TJ, nope i dont use proxy
[07:49] <crazyhorse18> tj: what's the {} do in your command?
[07:49] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: It's part of the 'find' - it is replaced by the name of the matched file
[07:49] <crazyhorse18> ah i see
[07:50] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: see "man find" and "-exec"
[07:50] <crazyhorse18> ok thanks
[07:50] <TJ-> johndave: Do you use browser add-ons such as NoScript which might be resetting and blocking those sites ?
[07:51] <johndave> TJ nope, i only use flashgot add-ons for downloading thats it
[07:51] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: If you want tar to be run in the same directory as the file is found, do: "find /some/dir -name '*.tar.gz' -execdir tar xvf {} \; "
[07:52] <johndave> If i am in windows it is not happening....
[07:52] <TJ-> johndave: OK ... because losing access to only some sites, which are embedded in other sites, sounds very much like some kind of cross-domain blocker is in action
[07:53] <kamel_> Ubuntu is ROCKS!
[07:53] <TJ-> johndave: If you load a page at disqus directly does that work?
[07:54] <johndave> TJ disqus website loads fine, but the disqus commentbox does not...
[07:54] <johndave> does not load
[07:55] <TJ-> johndave: That points even more strongly to having some kind of cross-domain blocking tool
[07:55] <xangua> johndave: do you have noscript addon or similar¿
[07:55] <johndave> xangua, in firefox? no..
[07:56] <TJ-> johndave: You said, I think that this affects both Firefox and Chrome/Chromium on Ubuntu, but only after "apt-get update" when those packages are upgraded?
[07:57] <neetz> How to check memory consumed by the installed packages ( libraries ) package by package in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[07:59] <xangua> whay do you mean by consumed memory neetz¿ do you mean the space they occup in your disk?
[08:00] <johndave> TJ, yes it affects all, Midori, Firefox, chrome after apt-get update upgrade
[08:00] <johndave> TJ i can't even upload my screenshot right now T_T
[08:00] <TJ-> neetz: "PKG=mypackage;  apt-cache show "$PKG" | egrep '^(Package|Installed-Size):' "
[08:01] <TJ-> johndave: That suggests your system *is* behind some kind of filtering proxy
[08:01] <TJ-> johndave: Or else domain name resolution  (DNS) is failing for just those domains
[08:02] <PCatinean> How does one hide windows partition (recovery, C:/ Drive and all) from ubuntu?
[08:02] <PCatinean> So they are not available in nautilius anymore
[08:02] <TJ-> johndave: DNS failure doesn't make sense though, if you can load the sites directly but not when embedded
[08:02] <neetz> TJ-:  It just hangs up :/
[08:02] <neetz> xangua:  yes hard disk space
[08:02] <TJ-> neetz: is the package cache broken ?
[08:02] <neetz> TJ-:  command not found
[08:03] <llutz> neetz: aptitude -O installsize -F'%p %I' search '~i'
[08:03] <neetz> TJ-:  "PKG=mypackage;  apt-cache show "$PKG" | egrep '^(Package|Installed-Size):"
[08:03] <johndave> TJ, i remember when I was still using my old laptop this was also my problem, I installed puppy linux and all website loads normally. i dont have problem with it.
[08:04] <neetz> llutz:  thanks that worked
[08:04] <neetz> :D
[08:04] <neetz> llutz:  how do you learn all these commands ?
[08:05] <llutz> neetz: use linux for a longer while, read man-pages, use online-ressources etc
[08:06] <neetz> llutz:  and if i want to extend that command to give the total count of all the memory consumed by those packages ?
[08:06] <llutz> neetz: pipe it into awk and summarize last column
[08:07] <neetz> llutz:  latin and greek to me :/
[08:07] <neetz> llutz:  the command ?
[08:07] <llutz> neetz: man awk :)
[08:08] <neetz> llutz:  i'll learn from next time , can you tell me the complete command :p
[08:08] <llutz> neetz:  | awk '{SUM +=$2} END {print SUM}'
[08:08] <xTheAred> hi :D
[08:09] <neetz> llutz:  and if I want it in human readable form then ?  where do I put " -h " in the command
[08:10] <llutz> neetz: SUM/1024  or SUM/1024/1024 to make the result more handy
[08:10] <leeyaa> how to redirect stdout when using start-stop-deamon
[08:10] <leeyaa> ?
[08:11] <leeyaa> for some reason --stdout is not working
[08:12] <neetz> llutz:  reg ex error :/
[08:12] <llutz> neetz:  | awk '{SUM +=$2} END {print SUM/1024/1024}'
[08:13] <TJ-> leeyaa: start-stop-daemon doesn't have "--stdout", at least on 14.04
[08:13] <leeyaa> TJ-: yeah seems so. how to redirect then ?
[08:13] <leeyaa> is it possible at all ?
[08:14] <johndave> TJ-, its me again, i rebooted in usb live installer of elementary OS. I dont have problem now. all website works fine. i will try to upload a screenshot
[08:14] <leeyaa> i need both stdout and stderr
[08:14] <neetz> llutz:  it says 5.6 e -0.7
[08:14] <neetz> :/
[08:15] <MagePsycho> which is the good mysql client for ubuntu?
[08:15] <llutz> MagePsycho: mysql
[08:15] <Det87> leeyaa: do you mean -v (--verbose) or..?
[08:15] <leeyaa> Det87: no
[08:15] <MagePsycho>  mysql client app*
[08:15] <llutz> neetz:  {print SUM/1024} then
[08:16] <MagePsycho> mysql gui tool*
[08:16] <Det87> leeyaa: is that what you're looking for?: http://stackoverflow.com/q/8251933/1821548
[08:16] <leeyaa> Det87: i tried a few answers from stackoverflow, i wont come asking here otherwise ;p
[08:16] <leeyaa> and yes
[08:17] <johndave> Ok i decided not to upgrade my system, i will just reinstall my OS and no more upgrading.... thanks guys
[08:17] <Det87> leeyaa: so, that solves it then?
[08:17] <johndave> thanks for the help to all
[08:17] <ikonia> johndave: that seems like the worst idea possible
[08:17] <TJ-> leeyaa: what are you trying to redirect? Output from some program that doesn't know how to log its own output? Wrap it in a script that does the redirection
[08:19] <johndave> ikonia, yeah i know, but i have no choice.
[08:19] <ikonia> you do
[08:19] <ikonia> you can work through the problem
[08:19] <leeyaa> TJ-: the program itself has logging. it is a nodejs app. however, for debugging purposes i need to redirect the stdout output for the init.d script too (so i can log console.log etc) this is the actual script http://paste.ubuntu.com/11643989/
[08:19] <Det87> leeyaa: what about the SO answer didn't work?
[08:20] <leeyaa> Det87: no i tried that
[08:20] <Det87> leeyaa: but how is it not working?
[08:20] <leeyaa> Det87: log stays empty? :P
[08:21] <Det87> leeyaa: you sure you got rights to the file you're trying to write?
[08:21] <johndave> ikonia, is there a posibilty that the problem is the kernel?
[08:21] <ikonia> no
[08:22] <johndave> ok
[08:24] <leeyaa> Det87: yes it wont start otherwise
[08:24] <leeyaa> but i double checked too
[08:24] <TJ-> leeyaa: Upstart controls that via /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf which executes /etc/init.d/rcS which in turn executes /etc/init.d/rc - there may be a way to induce an option in one of those to capture the sysvinit script output to be logged/captured
[08:25] <leeyaa> TJ-: that looks like an option too. for now i dont need this app in upstart though
[08:25] <TJ-> johndave: Have you tried accessing those same web sites from Ubuntu's Guest Login, not your regular user account?
[08:25] <leeyaa> i will note it however
[08:25] <leeyaa> this is how i start the app    start-stop-daemon --start --background --no-close --exec $NODE_EXEC --user $NODE_USER --name $DNAME --pidfile $PID_FILE --make-pidfile --startas $NODE_EXEC --chuid $NODE_USER -- $NODE_APP $CONFIG_FILE
[08:25] <leeyaa> maybe im doing something wrong ?
[08:26] <TJ-> leeyaa: Upstart control those scripts being started and if I recall correctly it internally manages stdout/stderr redirection for writing to syslog
[08:27] <leeyaa> TJ-: isnt there an easier way ?
[08:27] <johndave> TJ, no i haven't i will try when i am done reiinstalling
[08:27] <leeyaa> maybe ill ditch start-stop-deamon lol
[08:27] <johndave> TJ-, i am currently reinstalling my elementaryOS
[08:27] <TJ-> johndave: Too late by then. Testing with the Guest account is a great way to find if a problem is caused by a user profile specific setting
[08:28] <johndave> yeah, its ok TJ- ,
[08:28] <TJ-> leeyaa: What is the actual problem --- node not starting?
[08:29] <leeyaa> TJ-: node is working fine. i just need to log stdout and stderr for its process for debugging purposes
[08:30] <leeyaa> TJ-: before moving to start-stop-deamon i just had $NODE_EXEC $NODE_APP $CONFIG_FILE 1>/dev/null 2>&1 &
[08:30] <leeyaa> i need the same thing ;p
[08:35] <TJ-> leeyaa: a more sensible independent solution would be to hook node.js console.log with a simply function that writes the output to disk file
[08:35] <PCatinean> Would you guys recommend intalling python-virtualenv via package manager or pip or direct download?
[08:37] <Johnny_Linux> i would prefer writting it down on paper, this way, you dont have to worry about losing it.
[08:37] <cfhowlett> PCatinean, direct download - least desirable option
[08:38] <polyphagia> yeah esentially the order you described PCatinean
[08:38] <PCatinean> okay :D
[08:38] <polyphagia> essentially*
[08:38] <PCatinean> thank you!
[08:42] <PCatinean> How do I add newlines with the tee command?
[08:44] <polyphagia> tee is for piping its stdin to stdout and a file
[08:44] <TJ-> PCatinean: that's not something tee does, it simply mirrors input to output and stdout
[08:45] <PCatinean> so it cannot be done?
[08:45] <polyphagia> use echo to add newlines
[08:45] <PCatinean> I did, didn't work
[08:45] <PCatinean> I mean I do echo and tee because I need to do sudo
[08:45] <TJ-> PCatinean: if you're trying to add newlines in pipes, use 'tr'
[08:45] <PCatinean> to add a file in xorg.conf
[08:45] <PCatinean> just tr? or escaped tr?
[08:46] <TJ-> PCatinean:  "echo -e "some stuff\nsome more stuff" | sudo tee /path/to/file"
[08:46] <PCatinean> echo -e uuuhh
[08:46]  * PCatinean tries
[08:47] <tnkhanh> hi everyone
[08:47] <PCatinean> TJ-, you're brilliant, you deserve a medal :D
[08:47] <PCatinean> thanks so much
[08:47] <polyphagia> hi tnkhanh
[08:47] <tnkhanh> anyone remember me?
[08:47]  * tnkhanh waves hand
[08:47] <TJ-> PCatinean: I've already got several, thanks :D
[08:47] <cfhowlett> tnkhanh, errrr, no.
[08:47] <PCatinean> In multiple domains? :D
[08:47] <cfhowlett> !ask | tnkhanh
[08:48] <TJ-> PCatinean: but of course O:)
[08:48] <Johnny_Linux> tnkhanh , you stole my lawn mower
[08:48] <tnkhanh> Johnny_Linux: don't worry I just borrow
[08:48] <Johnny_Linux> ok
[08:49] <PCatinean> hmm, whitepace seems not to work with \w
[08:49] <tnkhanh> I came here before to ask silly questions
[08:49] <tnkhanh> lucky noone rmb
[08:49] <cfhowlett> tnkhanh,  , please do not ask silly questions here.
[08:50] <TJ-> PCatinean: "\w" is a regular expression shortcut, not an escape code
[08:50] <TJ-> PCatinean: if you're referring to echo, then see "man echo" for the escape codes it recognises
[08:51] <PCatinean> hmm, apprently there is no such character
[08:51] <PCatinean> just tab
[08:52] <TJ-> PCatinean: be aware if you just call 'echo' using "echo" you may be invoking the shell's implementation, *not* "/bin/echo" which the man-page refers to. There may be subtle differences depending on the shell
[08:53] <PCatinean> Think there is a subtle difference you are right, but not for the case i'm after, tab should be more than fine as well I think
[08:54] <PCatinean> brb
[08:54] <avelldiroll> Hi all, on ubuntu 14.10 and xubuntu 14.10, this past few weeks, me and some colleague have been hearing a "2 tones" alert sound from different machines, with no other notifications or pointers in the logs, does anybody have an idea where this could come from? is there a way to dump the list of process that access the sound output (i.e., is there something more friendly to use than lsof on the proper
[08:54] <avelldiroll> /dev/device?) ?
[08:54] <ikonia> avelldiroll: that sounds like a hardware warning more than thhe OS
[08:54] <cfhowlett> avelldiroll, agreed.
[08:54] <avelldiroll> the 2 tones alert happens rougly once a day
[08:55] <cfhowlett> avelldiroll, check your logs
[08:55] <avelldiroll> ikonia: that is what i thought ... but it is happening on several machines with different specs and manufacurers]
[08:55] <ikonia> avelldiroll: seems unrealistic
[08:55] <avelldiroll> cfhowlett: i found nothing related
[08:56] <TJ-> avelldiroll: Does it sound like the basic PC speaker output (usually built onto the motherboard or the chassis), or coming from speakers attached to the audio output?
[08:57] <avelldiroll> TJ-: no, it sound like a mp3 recording of firefighter truck alarm
[08:57] <TJ-> avelldiroll: OK, so that sounds like its generated by software
[08:57] <avelldiroll> TJ-: and i am hearing it through earphones
[08:58] <TJ-> avelldiroll: I get something similar when I'm in a terminal and I cause the Bell to ring by trying to scroll too far in some direction, for example
[08:58] <cfhowlett> TJ-, accessibility options??
[08:58] <TJ-> avelldiroll: Is there any pattern to which application is being used, or run, when it happens?
[08:59] <leeyaa> TJ-: nvm i figured it
[08:59] <avelldiroll> It happens at times with no interaction with keyboards and mouse, and i did not find some common software used (apart from firefox)
[09:00] <avelldiroll> it happens to multiple users, using different machines, using different softwares
[09:00] <avelldiroll> and re-reading what i just wrote … it is sounding like it could be an opened webpage
[09:01] <polyphagia> most likely
[09:01] <Johnny_Linux> sounds right
[09:01] <avelldiroll> that would be used by all users, i have to investigate that
[09:01] <avelldiroll> thanks
[09:01] <TJ-> avelldiroll: some side-channel chat/notification for a logged-in service, perhaps?
[09:01] <eduardo> anyone can help to create vpn connection using only server address, user and password.... in windows i can do it very easy but ubuntu is impossible it asks me about a certificate that isnt avalaible for me
[09:02] <avelldiroll> eduardo: what kinf of VPN ? openvpn? anyconnect?
[09:02] <avelldiroll> *kind
[09:02] <leeyaa> thanks for the help earlier
[09:03] <leeyaa> apparently my app was not making any requests, so i was not getting any log entries :D
[09:03] <eduardo> avelldiroll i dont know, suppose vpn in windows they ask me for new connection
[09:03] <eduardo> ive also tried ptp but it doesnt work...
[09:04] <TJ-> leeyaa: doh!!
[09:04] <eduardo> i want to connect to my university cluster and they gave us a address, user and password thats it.....
[09:04] <avelldiroll> eduardo: by default, windows only support pptp vpn, so there should be a specific client used on windows, which one is it ?
[09:05] <nvk> hey
[09:05] <nvk> I'm trying to run an application and I'm getting this error "./bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstlport.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[09:05] <nvk> which package should I install?
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> nvk: wich application are you trying to run?
[09:06] <eduardo> avelldiroll http://imagebin.ca/v/24INV3jhtFR3 click in the image and download a pdf tutorial.. in spanish very very short
[09:06] <eduardo> with images you can easily understand
[09:07] <nvk> its a license manager, from my company
[09:07] <nvk> lotuspsychje
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> nvk: ubuntu version?
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> !find libstlport
[09:08] <nextech> 15.04
[09:08] <nvk> lotuspsychje 15.04
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> nvk: you have an url of that application, howto install?
[09:09] <eduardo> avelldiroll i do it well but it says connction has failed.....using ptpt
[09:09] <avelldiroll> eduardo: so it looks like a pptp VPN, be sure to install the following packages: network-manager-pptp network-manager-pptp-gnome
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> nvk: apt-cache doesnt find that libstlport
[09:09] <PCatinean> In the case of not requiring video editing or performance whatsoever, should I stick to xorg noveau drivers for my notebook with dual video cards in it?
[09:09] <nvk> lotuspsychje: I have nothing but the binary, will ask my mates when they come then
[09:09] <TJ-> nvk: libstlport is the Sun c++ compiler standard library. Looks like you need that to run the application
[09:10] <eduardo> avelldiroll i have yet installed
[09:10] <nvk> TJ-: how can I install that?
[09:10] <TJ-> nvk: see http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris/cmp-stlport-libcstd-142559.html
[09:10] <nvk> TJ-: will have a look, thanks!
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: use the drivers that work best for your system mate
[09:11] <k1l> nvk: seems like that libstlport is quite old? i see 12.04 packages but no since 14.04
[09:11] <PCatinean> I mean they work fine now not sure if I would get better rendering/refresh-rate/quality if I switched for the nvidia proprietary drivers
[09:11] <avelldiroll> eduardo: so when configuring a pptp VPN in network-manager, it does not ask for a certificate, what is the issue then ?
[09:11] <polyphagia> if the free drivers are working for you i don't recommend switching PCatinean
[09:12] <PCatinean> Then I will stick here :))
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> polyphagia: +1
[09:12] <nvk> k1l: I saw that aswell... I don't know which SO they have in production
[09:12] <nvk> OS*
[09:12] <k1l> nvk: so what program is it that needs that?
[09:13] <eduardo> avelldiroll  http://imagebin.ca/v/24VnDkfy17Rs it always failed the connection although they are right...
[09:13] <nvk> k1l: it's a license manager for my company
[09:15] <eduardo> avelldiroll if you want i can pass the login in private and you can try... for my in windows is easy and ubuntu impossible...
[09:15] <avelldiroll> eduardo: you should never suggest that, those are private
[09:15] <avelldiroll> (and you don't know what i could do with them :) )
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> nvk: the name of the package would be usefull, is it a .deb or..?
[09:16] <eduardo> avelldiroll i would change it, and is nothing imporant there only access to terminal of cluster
[09:16] <avelldiroll> eduardo: looking at the pdf and the image, you don't seem to use the same server adress
[09:17] <eduardo> averlldiroll sorry i know it, they have told us to change the address.. the new addrss that works in windows is the one i wrote....... the tutorial is for windows xpp so i bit outdated jaj
[09:17] <nvk> lotuspsychje: it's just a binary file... LicenseManager, no extension whatsoever
[09:17] <k1l> nvk: seems like you need the oracle solaris studio
[09:17] <avelldiroll> eduardo: i read "tunels.udl.es" on the pdf and "tunelsalu.udl.cat" on the image (i am probably wrong as the resolution is low on both)
[09:18] <nvk> k1l: ok, will download, thanks!
[09:18] <eduardo> averlldiroll sorry i know it, they have told us to change the address.. the new addrss that works in windows is the one i wrote....... the tutorial is for windows xpp so i bit outdated
[09:18] <avelldiroll> eduardo: last thing would be to check your firewall
[09:18] <TJ-> eduardo: is listening on the standard PPTP port, as well as exposing the Windows network it is on... you may want to report that to your university security/IT department
[09:19] <TJ-> eduardo: You should check the log files for reasons why it fails to connect. In a terminal do "tail -f /var/log/syslog" then try to connect, you sohuld get some clues
[09:20] <eduardo> as long as i know i have it disabled ( my firewall)
[09:20] <avelldiroll> from memory, for pptp vpn, you need 47 and 1723 opened, but please to take that for granted (i don't use pptp much)
[09:21] <TJ-> avelldiroll: No, only 1723 TCP
[09:21] <avelldiroll> eduardo: it could be the firewall of your machine, or the firewall of the network you are currently in
[09:22] <mikubuntu> day 4: damn hp mini, it wants to load lubuntu live 1404, but screen blacks out just after splash screen with 'try w/o install' option -- which, according to this page: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/ i NEED to run live first to use gparted to alter partitions. also, someone had suggested i get into f6 to click nomodeset, which i did, but still goes to black screen.
[09:22] <avelldiroll> TJ-: oh yes you are right
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: did you try xubuntu aswell?
[09:22] <kk_drop> is there a keyboard shortcut for moving window between screens (not between desktops - shft+ctrl+arrow
[09:23] <eduardo> this is my log... http://paste.ubuntu.com/11645033/
[09:23] <TJ-> avelldiroll: The '47' you're thinking of is the IP protocol number 47, otherwise known as GRE, used by Cisco and other Tunnelling services
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: is that box an uefi?
[09:23] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: i went to answer that yesterday, but you had left -- no, but why do you ask. it looks like the problem is associated with the peculiarities of hp netbook
[09:24] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: not sure what uefi is -- its an hp mini 1000 netbook
[09:24] <avelldiroll> TJ-: yes, just memory association, due to having dealt with it a while ago, it is alreadty mixed up in my memory soup
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: whats the Default Os on that hp?
[09:24] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: currently running xp (not sure what it came with, was given to my sister)
[09:24] <TJ-> avelldiroll: I know the feeling :)
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: does your system have less then 2gig ram?
[09:25] <TJ-> eduardo: Is your system behind a router that is doing port address translation? Does Windows work behind the same router?
[09:26] <k1l> eduardo: network-manager-pptp is installed?
[09:26] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: here's a page that expains some of hp mini problems/solutions to installing ubuntu
[09:26] <avelldiroll> TJ-: he sais it is working on windows, so i assumed it was working on windows "on the same network"
[09:26] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/
[09:26] <avelldiroll> *says
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: how much ram does your box have?
[09:27] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: how do i find that out from xp
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: system settings
[09:27] <TJ-> eduardo: Your log file looked like it didn't capture the pptp service starting, which will contain more accurate details. Can you pastebin the last 2000 lines from that file? "tail -n 2000 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"
[09:27] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: lemme look
[09:27] <TJ-> avelldiroll: me too, but I've learned to my cost never to assume when doing support!
[09:29] <avelldiroll> eduardo: TJ- :  I have to go, but from what i recall, windows pptp servers can be very picky on the auth protocol they choose, i remember having to force one (pap, chap, eap,…) as the negaociation with the server was failing
[09:29] <avelldiroll> TJ-: and you are right to do so :)
[09:29] <TJ-> avelldiroll: yes, we need more info to determine but that's my thought right now
[09:30] <TJ-> eduardo: Are you connected to the VPN from a Windows PC when you try to connect from Ubuntu, or do you try it when Windows isn't connected to the VPN?
[09:32] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: ok i have system properties open, has tabs for updates, remote, general, hardware, and advanced
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: should show in system properties, ask in ##windows if you dont find
[09:33] <vanschagen> i  have now ATtin working on  win7 ,linux mint and MAC works now fine
[09:33] <vanschagen> ATtiny
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> !mint | vanschagen
[09:34] <vanschagen> ok
[09:36] <eduardo> perhaps this is better with more info....http://paste.ubuntu.com/11645324/
[09:37] <eduardo> TJ- i ve tried in a windows laptop i have, and also i have tried from a virtual machine ( windows 10) with vmware
[09:38] <eduardo> laptop - different computer... virtual machine inside same desktop pc
[09:38] <cotalinux> Hello, does anyone use something for time tracking on ubuntu? I've tried Hamster but it lacks some features
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> cotalinux: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4113/which-time-tracker-application-do-you-recommend
[09:40] <TJ-> eduardo: That's a great log :)   CHAP authentication is good but then Link Control Protocol reports an error: "LCP terminated by peer (MPPE required but peer negotiation failed)"
[09:41] <eduardo> TJ- so any solution ?
[09:42] <avelldiroll> eduardo: enable MPEE encryption in the advanced settings then
[09:42] <TJ-> eduardo: Yes, in the PPTP options enable MPPE
[09:43] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: intel atom cpu n270 @ 1.60 ghz 1.32 ghz, 0.99 gb ram -- says on sys prop window
[09:43] <TJ-> eduardo: MPPE == Microsoft Point-to-Point Encryption
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: for system less then 2gig, try force_pae  option, the same way you untered F6 nomodeset
[09:44] <cotalinux> lotuspsychje: thx. Hamster seems like a good app, however I would have liked to set idle detection to 5 min. Insted the app uses the "turn screen off when inactive for" system settings
[09:45] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: i don't think i remember there being a force pae option
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: you can enter manualy
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> !pae | mikubuntu
[09:45] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: is that in grub?
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: read the trigger mate
[09:46] <TJ-> PAE should have no effect on a system with 1GB of RAM
[09:49] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: ok, i see those instructions -- were you able to read the page i posted above about hp mini's partitions?
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: yes, did you try those aswell?
[09:49] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: no, because i could never get the stick to run live yet
[09:49] <avelldiroll> TJ-: PAE consumes some resources (ram, cpu-cycles) even when not used, so a system with less than 3GB will perform marginally better with PAE disabled (marginally here is roughly 10% overall)
[09:50] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: does that need to be addressed b4 or after forcepae process?
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: try the boot options first: nomodeset or no_acpi or forcepae to test if you can bypass your black screen
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: if you cant, must be that partitioning issue
[09:52] <stevenm> Hi, anyone here use catfish? and have you noticed it doesn't seem to use 'locate' like *at all* ?
[09:53] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: are you suggesting i try nomodeset, no_acpi, and forecpae all simultaneously? i had ticked the nomodeset in f6 yesterday, but no luck still went to black screen
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: no, each one at time test
[09:54] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: ok guess that will take a few mins you gnna be around for little while?
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: not sure, if not ask away what you tested in this channel
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: always some good helpers here
[09:54] <TJ-> mikubuntu avelldiroll: Indeed, but PAE shouldn't have any effect on a 1GB system displaying a black screen. PAE adds another layer of page tables to increase addressable memory in the kernel, but not the user-space VMA
[09:55] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: yes i know, but some better than others ... lol
[09:55] <welly> Hello all. Can anyone recommend a terminal app to replace the default terminal?
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> !info terminator | welly
[09:56] <avelldiroll> TJ-: agreed, i just read your messaged, answered, and then backlogged to realize my answer was out of scope of the issue
[09:56] <mikubuntu> TJ-: what about acpi_off ?
[09:56] <k1l> welly: well, if you want to replace it see what other terminal can offer you the stuff that the regular terminal cant
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: you have been tested for days now, in your case its worth a try to test it all
[09:57] <welly> cool, going to check out terminator. Just found that one. I'm finding the regular terminal just a bit limiting.
[09:58] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: ok, i try acpi off first since i've tried nomodeset already several times
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> welly: limited in wich way?
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: did you try 12.04 also?
[09:58] <TJ-> mikubuntu: acpi could have an effect, but my focus would be on why the integrated intel GMA945 video chipset driver is failing to work
[09:59] <welly> lotuspsychje: I've just installed ubuntu on my macbook pro to replace osx. used to use iterm2 on osx. It was a bit more configurable, a bit more immediate. Tabbed terminals was particularly handy
[09:59] <polyphagia> gnome-terminal has tabs
[10:00] <polyphagia> they just did a really good job of hiding them
[10:00] <k1l> gnome terminal got tabs, too
[10:00] <polyphagia> and i'm not sure why tbh
[10:00] <welly> does it? I certianly can't find it if it does
[10:00] <welly> new terminal opens a new window
[10:01] <polyphagia> shift ctrl t
[10:01] <welly> Oh i see
[10:01] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: and TJ- acpi-_off and went right to black sreen
[10:01] <welly> thank you
[10:01] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I'm reaidng HP's service manual for that model now, in case there's some clues
[10:01] <k1l> gnome guys think too much settings are too confusing. at least the settings still work with shortcuts
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: can you tell us again wich ubuntu versions you tested on that box
[10:02] <mikubuntu> ok, i'll try the forcepae in meantime
[10:03] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: just lubuntu i have been using for quite a while and i like it -- need something simple for my sister to use
[10:03] <TJ-> mikubuntu: According to this document, the mini 210 has an Intel GMA3150 video chipset. That should help us further diagnose whether the correct driver is loading and any options that you could tweak for it
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> welly: http://www.tecmint.com/linux-terminal-emulators/
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: yes but you tested different version of lubuntu no?
[10:04] <mikubuntu> TJ-: problem is i can't even get a terminal with that damned black screen
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: ive suggested you xubuntu also yesterday, as someone succeeded on a forum to install it on your hp
[10:04] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: no i only have one usb
[10:05] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: oooohhhhhh, you never said that -- i asked you why you asked about xub .. lol
[10:06] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: but also many apparently have loaded lub also, and i really do prefer it if we can get to the bottom of the problem
[10:06] <polyphagia> ah welly you can also go into Edit>Preferences
[10:06] <polyphagia> and change it to open new terminals in tabs
[10:06] <polyphagia> instead of windows
[10:07] <polyphagia> still though, i don't find that very intuitive
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: by testing out, you can find your specific issue
[10:08] <TJ-> mikubuntu: There are ways. At the boot kernel command-line editor, put on the end: "init=/bin/sh" and it will start the kernel and a basic shell and nothing else. If that works you can work forward from there.
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: check bios settings, check bios flash updates,try xubuntu,try force_pae,try 12.04,...
[10:10] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: "Now a string of options is visible, often with 'quiet' or 'quiet splash --' at the end. Add 'forcepae' to the string before and after the two dashes ("forcepae -- forcepae")." from page you sent -- but i don't know how to edit that string.
[10:12] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: nevermind i edited it -- now to test it
[10:14] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: nope -- straight to black screen with forcepae added to string
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: ok then you've tested all boot options now, try other things
[10:16] <TJ-> mikubuntu: long shot but... have you got an external monitor connected?
[10:17] <__Myst__> How do I make something done in dpkg-reconfigure permanent?
[10:17] <__Myst__> Everything I set there gets deleted on reboot
[10:17] <sveta> it is permanent by default and by design
[10:17] <sveta> please be more specific
[10:17] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok, so i'm back at black screen, do you want me to try to start a shell? is that the same location to insert init bin sh as where i put the forcepae?
[10:18] <mikubuntu> TJ-: no ext monitor -- i'm on my laptop with the target box next to me
[10:19] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I'm reading it is caused by the video chipset being set into an illegal resolution. Try this on the kernel command-line: "video=1024x600"   - change those X and Y resolution values if you know your mini's resolution is different to those
[10:19] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I took those values from the service manuals' list of screen's fitted to that model
[10:22] <mikubuntu> TJ-: where is the 'kernel command line' is that the same place i earlier inserted 'forcepae'?
[10:22] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Correct, that is it
[10:22] <__Myst__> Let me be more specific:
[10:22] <__Myst__> Whenever I run the command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure' to set my keyboard layout to Generica 105 PC Italian
[10:23] <__Myst__> After reboot it gets set to Generica 105 PC English
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: try 12.04 on that box also
[10:23] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok, so insert "video=1024x600" (without quotations) at the end of that line?
[10:23] <__Myst__> How can I fix that?
[10:23] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Yes
[10:24] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: ok after i try these options, because i'll have to erase the 1404 and download and write the new stick for 1204
[10:24] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I've also read that on some GMA chipsets the backlight setting is inverted so when the operating system thinks it has turned it on, it has turned it off. That's controlled by ACPI, and the fix for that one is to use "acpi_osi=linux" which tells the ACPI sub-system it is using Linux not Windows
[10:25] <__Myst__> The command is running is not only "sudo dpkg-reconfigure", but "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration"
[10:25] <__Myst__> And the automatically selected options are all the correct ones
[10:28] <k1l> __Myst__: unset "use system defaults" in the keyboard settings
[10:28] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok, back to black screen -- are you suggesting then to add acpi osi linux to kernel string after 1024x600?
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: how big is your netbook screen exactly?
[10:29] <k1l> __Myst__: what desktop do you use?
[10:30] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: you mean physically?
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: yes
[10:30] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: small its just a 'netbook'
[10:30] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Try them together first, then acpi_osi on its own. One other thing I can think of... try connecting an external monitor in case the outputs have been switched at boot time... that might be seeing the output. I once dealt with a system that do that and it took me a day until I thought to try an external monitor :)
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: +1 good idea about the external
[10:31] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: According to the service manual the mini 210 has a 10.1" 1024x600 screen
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: sounds like those atom netbooks with ubuntu remix on
[10:32] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: if you want the screen res that xp is currently using i have to boot xp and look.
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: no its ok, try what TJ- suggests
[10:33] <TJ-> mikubuntu: If you want to test the 'inverted backlight" theory, shine a bright torch onto the screen and you should be able to illuminate the LCD pixels and if you can see things drawn on screen you know it is the backlight issue
[10:37] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok black screen using both together -- going to try just osi linux now
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: wich lubuntu did you put on stick 32 or 64?
[10:39] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I'd suggest the 2nd monitor *and* the bright torch right now. you need to prove whether this is really a no-pixels-written-to-screen or a backlight-is-off issue
[10:42] <PCatinean> Does anyone have issues with google hangout in chromium on ubuntu 14.04.02?
[10:44] <sveta> yes?
[10:45] <mikubuntu> TJ-: arrrrrrrrrrrrgh ... black screen of death ... lol. lotuspsychje 32 bit. don't know what the bright torch is -- is it something like a hammer? hey -- i don't remember that kernel string editor ever being on the install disks is it fairly new? very cool for troubleshooting huh?
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:47] <mikubuntu> TJ-: external monitor is a problem right now, don't know if i can track one down from someone
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: try a 12.04 ubuntu or xubuntu perhaps
[10:50] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: they've always said if you're not sure to use 32 bit, right? i couldn't find any reference to 64 type so i used 32 bit
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: that should be good to go
[10:50] <sliddjur>  Im getting a blank screen when trying to connect to a mikrotik router via ubuntu sudo screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200. Works via putty on a windows machine at same baud rate
[10:50] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Could you 'borrow' the monitor from the PC you're using on here?
[10:50] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: regular full flavor ubuntu?
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> anyway im out, let us know how you fixxed it mikubuntu
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: as long as its 12.04, just to test if you can bypass the black screen
[10:51] <mikubuntu> TJ-: its a laptop, can i hijack part of the monitor?
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[10:51] <__Myst__> Is it more efficient to use tmux/Terminator than i3 for stacking terminals?
[10:52] <TJ-> sliddjur: Try "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200,cs8,-ixon,-ixff,istrip"
[10:52] <mikubuntu> TJ-: naturally, you'd have to tell me how to do that :(
[10:52] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Ahhhh! No :) I thought I saw you mention a desktop
[10:52] <TJ-> sliddjur: typo "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200,cs8,-ixon,-ixoff,istrip"
[10:53] <sliddjur> TJ-:  nope, still blank screen
[10:56] <sliddjur> same with cutecom gui, 8 dat 1 stop bit.
[10:57] <mikubuntu> TJ-: i had to go back and find your bright torch comment, i din't know what you were talking about. i do have a double lcd headlamp that i just shone onto the black screen, and no i don't see any writing or images visible. i do, however, have two floaters in my eyes now, surprisingly similar to the lamps on the lcd shining back at me from the screen. lol.
[11:00] <mikubuntu> TJ-: so do you agree with lotus that i should burn and try 12.04 versions of xub and ub? should i try 12.04 lub by the same token?
[11:02] <TJ-> mikubuntu: OK, so that suggests the issue is a problem with initialising the video chipset, posibly switching to the external output which has nothing connected, or possibly the wrong resolution being requested which would have the effect of turning the video chipset off for some combinations.
[11:02] <mikubuntu> TJ-: offhand, can you tell me -- is it possible to load multiple bootable OS on one usb? the stick i have is 16gb, so it has space, but i don't know if thats a workable thing?
[11:03] <TJ-> mikubuntu: IT won't hurt to try an older version, at least you'll be able to confirm whether an older release can operate the screen, which if so will point to a regression
[11:03] <ablest1980> wheres lotus?
[11:03] <ablest1980> hello
[11:05] <TJ-> mikubuntu: It is possible, but you have to step through some hoops to di it, oyu can't simply write several ISO images onto the USB flash in different places
[11:06] <mikubuntu> TJ-: so i'll set you free now for awhile, thanks so much for all the help -- i'll report back whatever happens using 1204 versions
[11:06] <TJ-> mikubuntu: You might try this Windows tool if you think it suitable   https://sites.google.com/site/shamurxboot/
[11:08] <mikubuntu> TJ-: cool tool i'd have to use it on the netbook b4 i wipe xp i guess, nothing else running windows around here
[11:08] <TJ-> mikubuntu: There are Linux tools too
[11:10] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I see this one suggested at penlinux site: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[11:11] <michael_mbp> hey guys
[11:11] <michael_mbp> how can I get a command to run backgrounded but not return an exit value?
[11:12] <michael_mbp> 2>&1>/dev/null &
[11:12] <michael_mbp> ??
[11:12] <Axsexel> anyone here?
[11:12] <Saturn812> michael_mbp, nohup command args > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[11:13] <michael_mbp> nohup ?
[11:13] <michael_mbp> so I'm doing
[11:13] <michael_mbp> service sendmail start &
[11:13] <michael_mbp> that would return '...done' and exit 0
[11:13] <Axsexel> anyone here an expert on windows 8.1 conflicts?
[11:14] <michael_mbp> you're asking in a linux chan...
[11:14] <Ben64> Axsexel: ##windows for windows support
[11:14] <Saturn812> afaik services should run on the background by itself. If it's a legit service
[11:14] <mikubuntu> TJ-: cool, it never really occured to me before to have multiple os on one stick, probably because i never had a big enough stick :P
[11:14] <michael_mbp> Saturn812: it does
[11:14] <Axsexel> nono, my problem is with windows having possible conflict with ubuntu
[11:14] <michael_mbp> but I'm running it through something called foreman
[11:14] <michael_mbp> it's a simple process runner
[11:15] <michael_mbp> that exit 0 causes it to TERM.
[11:15] <michael_mbp> so I just want to trigger sendmail to start...background away
[11:15] <michael_mbp> and don't want it to 'exit 0'.
[11:16] <michael_mbp> if I just do service sendmail start, then it's fine... BUT takes a long time.
[11:16] <michael_mbp> Saturn812: thoughts?
[11:16] <TJ-> michael_mbp: bash shell "set +m" (monitor) might do what you want
[11:17] <michael_mbp> ah I wonder if it's cause of set -e
[11:17] <michael_mbp> exit on first failure?
[11:17] <Axsexel> ok, I'll just ask and maybe someone nice enough will answer me straight . Is it possible if I had linux on one HDD partition and installed windows8.1 on another partition, for windows to wipe clean my linux partition? and no, it's not just a boot problem, i ran GParted and other softwares and the linux partition is just gone
[11:18] <Axsexel> it either says "free space" either no partition at all
[11:18] <geirha> michael_mbp: well, 0 means success, and won't trigger errexit (set -e)
[11:19] <Ben64> Axsexel: maybe? ask ##windows about how the windows installer behaves
[11:19] <TJ-> Axsexel: If you installed Windows after Linux it is possible, yes
[11:19] <Saturn812> windows installer wipes out any linux partitions
[11:19] <Axsexel> SERIOUSLY?
[11:19] <Saturn812> *boot partitions'
[11:19] <Axsexel> no, not just the boot
[11:19] <Axsexel> the actual partition where linux was installed
[11:20] <michael_mbp> geirha: true...
[11:20] <Saturn812> if you didn't do anything bad on windows install, it just erases the boot sector
[11:20] <michael_mbp> not sure what the exit code from command & is
[11:20] <geirha> michael_mbp: always 0
[11:20] <michael_mbp> it's cause that process dies once sendmail starts
[11:20] <michael_mbp> so right now, it's a docker container, running an entrypoint.sh
[11:20] <Axsexel> so afterall it could be me wiping it by mistake? and if so any quick tip on it's recovery?
[11:21] <michael_mbp> geirha: this service start & is inside that entrypoint script.
[11:21] <Saturn812> Axsexel, data recovery is very tricky. You have good chances if it is a separate from windows 8 hdd, but if you installed something on it already, chances are very slim
[11:21] <geirha> michael_mbp: I really don't see the point in running the service command in the background. If you want to ignore its exit status, just put   || :  behind it
[11:22] <Axsexel> the HDD space where linux was is free, haven't touched it
[11:22] <geirha> (I also think it's a bad idea to ignore its exit status)
[11:22] <michael_mbp> geirha: cause it delays the container starting
[11:22] <michael_mbp> and sendmail eventually starts after about a minute or so
[11:23] <michael_mbp> true... ideally, I'd have some process monitoring on sendmail
[11:23] <michael_mbp> and true, I'd run it inside its own container.
[11:23] <michael_mbp> (which I'm working on)
[11:23] <geirha> it shouldn't take long to start a service
[11:24] <michael_mbp> sendmail seems to take an age.
[11:24] <michael_mbp> think it has trouble determining the containers fqdn.
[11:24] <geirha> from starting the service till the service is up and running, could take anything from a few milliseconds to several minutes, but the service command should return much sooner regardless
[11:25] <michael_mbp> it returns '* starting sendmail MTA...' and takes about a minute
[11:25] <michael_mbp> the text ^^ is along those lines :)
[11:36] <frenda> There is a website for 'linux terminal video clips' that I can't remember it; Does anybody know it?
[11:36] <frenda> a place for sharing
[11:37] <backbox> hello
[11:38] <backbox> i need some help here guys
[11:38] <Ben64> backbox: you running backbox linux?
[11:38] <backbox> yeah
[11:38] <backbox> but not installed it yet
[11:39] <Ben64> their support channel is  #backbox on irc.autistici.org
[11:39] <backbox> and i wana install it on hdd
[11:39] <backbox> okay thx im going there
[11:40] <backbox> but no one is there bro
[11:40] <alnkpa> hi guys, I installed papi from the repos on a system only using Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7-8890 v3. it reports "No uncore PMUs or events found", while perf list sees a multitude of PMU events. does anybody have an idea, what the problem might be
[11:40] <Ben64> backbox: theres 7 people!
[11:41] <backbox> Ben64: i joined the channel u put it and no one is there my bro
[11:41] <Ben64> well backbox isn't supported here
[11:42] <backbox> Ben64: can u give me the link again pls
[11:42] <Ben64> scroll up a few lines?
[11:43] <Omnipotent> well like a total noob I have accidentally removed /etc/apache2/apache.conf from my system
[11:43] <Omnipotent> and using everything provided over S.O. and stuff... I can't seem to retrive..
[11:44] <Omnipotent> the apt-get for retriving configuration..
[11:44] <kk_drop> try to reinstall apache, it will create it again
[11:44] <Omnipotent> Did that too.
[11:44] <Omnipotent> --purge remove too
[11:44] <Omnipotent> and then manual install..
[11:44] <Omnipotent> but it just removes 29 KBs
[11:44] <Omnipotent> and installs the same
[11:44] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Do you mean "/etc/apache2/apache2.conf" ?
[11:45] <Omnipotent> err yeah that
[11:45] <Omnipotent> it was just default configuration
[11:45] <Omnipotent> so no big loss
[11:45] <Ben64> yep, reinstalling apache2 will recreate it
[11:45] <Omnipotent> Ben42, as I said, I tried, but it doesn't.
[11:45] <TJ-> Omnipotent: OK ... making sure you weren't looking for a non-existent file!
[11:45] <Ben64> then you didn't do it properly
[11:45] <Omnipotent> tried --purge remove .. autoremove
[11:45] <Omnipotent> and everything else.
[11:46] <Omnipotent> what can I do now?
[11:47] <Omnipotent> does anyone have a copy of default file which I can literally copy paste?
[11:47] <Ben64> reinstall apache2
[11:47] <Omnipotent> I did.
[11:47] <Omnipotent> I mentioned I did.
[11:47] <Ben64> right, but you must have missed something
[11:47] <Omnipotent> Right, then what exactly? sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
[11:47] <Omnipotent> sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:47] <Omnipotent> how about that?
[11:47] <Omnipotent> should it work?
[11:48] <TJ-> Omnipotent: which release of Ubuntu?
[11:48] <Omnipotent> TJ-, 14.04
[11:48] <Ben64> just tried it on my test vm, works fine
[11:48] <Omnipotent> I dunno.. it's not working.
[11:48] <Ben64> resintalled apache2 and it recreated the file. try harder
[11:48] <Omnipotent> It removes only 29 kbs
[11:48] <Omnipotent> for some  reasons.
[11:48] <Ben64> who cares how much it removes
[11:48] <Omnipotent> I've also made sure that apache2 is not running.
[11:49] <Omnipotent> How about you give me some proper command instead of just telling me to try harder :\
[11:49] <Omnipotent> Sorry about being rude.. but that is really vogue answer :(
[11:49] <Ben64> you just keep saying you've tried everything, but i doubt you've tried it while here
[11:50] <Omnipotent> Well, you didn't tell me anything that I didn't.. I tried reinstall.. reinstall with config option passed using -o for apt-get .. I also tried --purge remove and then install
[11:50] <Omnipotent> I also tried autoremove and then install
[11:50] <Omnipotent> what is left?
[11:50] <Omnipotent> Can you tell me that?
[11:50] <Omnipotent> I can't find any more solutions...
[11:50] <Ben64> if you can't be bothered to follow the steps, i can't help you
[11:50] <Omnipotent> k
[11:51] <kuba7447> every time i start ubuntu , its says "MPU device not found" , whats wrong?
[11:51] <Omnipotent> I am done with regular channel troll it seems heh
[11:51] <TJ-> Omnipotent: reinstalling all files would require: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install apache2"
[11:51] <Omnipotent> yeah did that .. as mentioned about.. "I tried reinstall'
[11:52] <Ben64> stop saying you've tried it, and TRY IT
[11:52] <Omnipotent> ...
[11:52] <Omnipotent> I tried the exact same command
[11:52] <Omnipotent> .it doesn't work
[11:52] <Omnipotent> which part of it did you not understand?
[11:52] <TJ-> Omnipotent: show us the terminal output when you try it
[11:52] <Omnipotent> okies
[11:52] <Omnipotent> A min please.
[11:52] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Have you checked the disk space is not running out, etc?
[11:52] <Omnipotent> Yes, there's A LOT Of space here
[11:52] <Omnipotent> around 100 GB left.
[11:53] <Laurenceb_> hi
[11:53] <Omnipotent> Hello
[11:53] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Any quotas set?
[11:53] <Omnipotent> Nope, clean fresh install of ubuntu
[11:53] <Laurenceb_> I have a problem ,metacity has huge and i have lost my window decoiration
[11:53] <Laurenceb_> how do i restart metacity?
[11:53] <Laurenceb_> i only have ssh access
[11:53] <kuba7447> what is an MPU device?
[11:53] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Desktop with Unity, or Server ?
[11:53] <Omnipotent> Server, VPS
[11:53] <Omnipotent> no Unity installed.
[11:54] <Ben64> Laurenceb_: DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace&
[11:54] <Omnipotent> TJ-, http://ideone.com/kZAA73
[11:54] <Omnipotent> output after --reinstall
[11:54] <TJ-> Omnipotent: OK, that helps. I'm wondering if the download of the .deb archive is somehow broken
[11:54] <Omnipotent> well, I originally installed from same repos.. 3 days ago.
[11:54] <Laurenceb_> ok, trying
[11:54] <Omnipotent> I didn't fiddle with anything..
[11:55] <Ben64> doesn't look like ubuntu
[11:55] <Omnipotent> I just accidently hit enter where I was not supposed to and deleted apache2's config.
[11:55] <Ben64> and definitely isn't x86 based
[11:56] <Omnipotent> It's arm based system .. the 14.04 is available for that under ARM ISO..
[11:56] <TJ-> Omnipotent: that looks like a Debian Wheezy package... on ARM hard float arch
[11:56] <Ben64> raspberry pi running raspbian maybe?
[11:56] <Omnipotent> No
[11:57] <Ben64> google only comes back with results from debian, raspbian, and kali
[11:58] <Omnipotent> No idea.
[11:58] <Ben64> probably because you're not on Ubuntu. please use the correct channel for your distro
[11:58] <Omnipotent> *sigh*
[11:59] <DJones> Ben64: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[11:59] <Omnipotent> I'll ask in Raspbian channel if you want... but I am pretty sure it is Ubuntu for ARM
[11:59] <Omnipotent> although the device is not at my place.
[11:59] <kuba7447> what is MPU-401 ???
[11:59] <DJones> There is a 14.04 image for the Pi 2
[12:00] <Omnipotent> regardless shouldn't packet manager commands be same..
[12:00] <Omnipotent> even if it happens to be Raspbian?
[12:00] <Ben64> DJones: yes, i know it exists, i'm looking at the specific package for apache, and every result on the internet points me to not ubuntu
[12:00] <Omnipotent> Thanks TJ- for all the help :-)
[12:01] <TJ-> Omnipotent: It's definitely a Debian package, has no Ubuntu version identifier, but it is in the ISO. And you *have* found a legitimate bug which I've reproduced here
[12:02] <Omnipotent> oh.
[12:02] <welly> Hey all. Got a question regarding the gnome key storage. I copied my gpg and pass config over from my desktop and ran pass. all worked fine except it prompted me if I wanted to save the password. Made the mistake of saying yes
[12:02] <Omnipotent> Well it isn't even my system, I am just SSHing into a friends system who just gave me the address and asked me to fix it.. so I dunno what exactly lies underneath.
[12:03] <Omnipotent> Why would I lie if it's not ubuntu... the friend just told me it's ubuntu so I was trying
[12:03] <__Myst__> Welp
[12:03] <Omnipotent> I mean there isn't a great point in saying it's Ubuntu if it's not heh
[12:03] <__Myst__> I just spent the past 15 minutes manually making a gnome-terminal theme for Solarized
[12:03] <welly> Now every time I run the pass command it dones't prompt me for my gpg password anymore and it reports a GPG warning about Key storage taking over GPGP
[12:03] <welly> er GPG
[12:03] <Omnipotent> TJ-, can you kindly paste the default apache2.conf??
[12:03] <Ben64> Omnipotent: easy test would be to check the sources... cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:03] <Omnipotent> somewhere?
[12:04] <Omnipotent> Becausae I only need that.
[12:04] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Here's the issue. That file isn't in the apache2 package it is in apache2.2-common, but reinstalling *that* package doesn't reinstall the file: "dpkg -S /etc/apache2/apache2.conf" will show you which package to reinstall
[12:07] <Omnipotent> TJ-, Yeah that does show that apache2.2-common is the package
[12:07] <Omnipotent> but reinstalling that doesn't help either
[12:07] <Omnipotent> so what can I do?
[12:07] <Ben64> purge it and install
[12:07] <Ben64> reinstall may not cut it
[12:07] <dmytro> Русские есть?
[12:07] <__Myst__> Can anybody give me an opinion of my Solarized pallete?
[12:07] <__Myst__> I'll post a scrot in a minute
[12:07] <dmytro> Hello comrads
[12:08] <Ben64> Omnipotent: and you should check in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:08] <__Myst__> http://imgur.com/w7nQQKn
[12:08] <__Myst__> ^ Solarized for gnome-terminal
[12:09] <Omnipotent> Ben64, there's some comments in it.
[12:09] <Ben64> whats the http://blah.blah part
[12:09] <Omnipotent> Ah, archive.raspian.org.
[12:09] <Omnipotent> seems like you are right.
[12:09] <Omnipotent> I am sorry.
[12:10] <Ben64> purging and reinstalling works everywhere i've tested here on ubuntu
[12:10] <Ben64> if it doesn't work there... idk
[12:10] <Omnipotent> but shouldn't the apt be similar?
[12:10] <Omnipotent> Eitherway I _am_ purging 2.2-common
[12:10] <Omnipotent> It's taking some time.
[12:11] <Ben64> raspbian is based on debian, ubuntu is based on debian. they can be quite different
[12:11]  * Omnipotent fires install command after purge and prays to god
[12:11] <Omnipotent> :p
[12:12] <zykotick9> s/can be/are/
[12:12] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Here's how to extract that single file from the .deb file: "dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile /var/cache/apt/archives/apache2.2-common_2.2.22-13+deb7u4_armhf.deb | tar x ./etc/apache2/apache2.conf"
[12:12] <Ben64> zykotick9: stuff like sed is going to work the same i'd bet, but packages yeah are going to have a lot of differences
[12:13] <Omnipotent> damn purge removing apache2.2-common and reinstalling it fixed it
[12:13] <Omnipotent> just purge removing apache2 didn't.
[12:13] <Omnipotent> ;_;
[12:13] <Omnipotent> Thank you so much TJ-
[12:13] <Omnipotent> and Ben64, I am sorry to be rude, thanks for the help.
[12:14] <Omnipotent> I honestly didn't knew that it's not Ubuntu.
[12:14] <Omnipotent> I wouldn't really pointlessly lie.
[12:14] <Ben64> usually people come in here knowing its not ubuntu :)
[12:14] <Omnipotent> xD
[12:14] <Omnipotent> Ben64, I don't use anything except Ubuntu anyway.. as I said not my device.
[12:15] <infidel> hi
[12:15] <TJ-> Omnipotent: after using that command you'll have in the current directory "./etc/apache2/apache2.conf"
[12:16] <XLV> anyone else here facing the "acpi pcc probe failed starting version 219" problem?
[12:16] <Omnipotent> TJ-, No need, I just simply purge remove and installed .. because you took a while to figure that out meanwhile impatient little me went and removed and installed it again :D
[12:16] <XLV> just upgraded to 15.04 on a i7 4770K/z87/nvidia gtx 760
[12:16] <TJ-> Omnipotent: From looking at the installer scripts it looks like if "/etc/apache2/conf.d/" exists then none of the .conf files are reinstalled
[12:17] <Omnipotent> oh
[12:17] <Omnipotent> what an odd ... logic.
[12:17] <Omnipotent> should have just rm -rf'ed /etc/apache2
[12:17] <Omnipotent> :D
[12:18] <XLV> funny thing is, the upgrade went well on a laptop with i7 4700qm, h87m or something, optimus with a gtx 765m, and on another laptop with i7 2720qm, gtx 560.. and failed on the desktop
[12:19] <TJ-> Omnipotent: That looks like a legitimate bug when doing a reinstall, but the scripts are written so that usually the absence of the file is assumed to be a deliberate act by the sysadmin indicating that the apache service should NOT start automatically, which is why it wasn't being replaced
[12:20] <Omnipotent> Oh?
[12:20] <Omnipotent> But in that case noone would --reinstall it.
[12:20] <Omnipotent> heck I even tried that.. apt-get -o "config: .. command.. which I don't recall off the top my head
[12:20] <Omnipotent> but I did read and wrote it.
[12:20] <zykotick9> Omnipotent: TJ- fyi, this is #debian's confmiss factoid (formatting isn't fantastic) http://paste.debian.net/212149/
[12:21] <Cyb3rn3t> ubuntu 14.04, does somebody know?: when I'd like to upload image for example facebook, and I need to browse, how can I see the thumbnails instead of the file names list ?
[12:21] <Omnipotent> right right .. that force-confmiss
[12:21] <Omnipotent> I did that with apt-get
[12:22] <Omnipotent> that didn't work either.. It was the FIRST accepted answer in Stack Overflow.
[12:22] <Omnipotent> so yes I dod.
[12:22] <Omnipotent> did*
[12:24] <TJ-> zykotick9: Thanks, that confirms my understanding. Nice to know there's an option "-o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' " to force reinstall
[12:27] <Omnipotent> TJ-, Thank you very much :-)
[12:28] <TJ-> zykotick9: Omnipotent actually it seems confmiss won't replace, as Omnipotent said: "confmiss: If a conffile is missing and the version in the package did  change" In this case the package version did not change
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:28] <Laurenceb__> hi
[12:29] <Laurenceb__> something is wrong with my desktop
[12:29] <Laurenceb__> i have no task bars
[12:29] <Omnipotent> anyone is aware of any streaming servers that support authentication?
[12:30] <Omnipotent> A simple authentication before starting the  stream is enough.. no need of encrypting entire stream.
[12:33] <TJ-> zykotick9: Omnipotent Actually, "confmiss" DOES work  I tested it, despite what the man pages say
[12:33] <Cyb3rn3t> Laurenceb__: did you tried to logout, login on tt2 and clear your cache dir ?
[12:33] <Omnipotent> Well, it didn't under this "Raspbian" it seems
[12:33] <Omnipotent> TJ-, you tried it with.. apt-get or aptitude?
[12:33] <TJ-> Omnipotent: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install apache2.2-common -o Dpkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' " -> "Configuration file `/etc/apache2/apache2.conf', does not exist on system."  "Installing new config file as you requested."
 no i have unsaved work
[12:34] <Laurenceb__> this is a major headache :-/
[12:34] <Omnipotent> TJ-, oh.
[12:34] <Omnipotent> strange.
[12:34] <TJ-> Omnipotent: I'm testing it on the same system you have there
[12:34] <Cyb3rn3t> Laurenceb__: fuck :/
[12:34] <Laurenceb__> I dont know how to get my machine into a usable state
[12:34] <Laurenceb__>  Window manager warning: Received a _NET_WM_MOVERESIZE message for 0x4e6b7ac (@l); these messages lack timestamps and therefore suck.
[12:34] <Laurenceb__> taskbars are back
[12:34] <Laurenceb__> but i cant open any more windows
[12:35] <TJ-> Laurenceb__: Sounds like the GPU ran out of memory for textures
[12:35] <Cyb3rn3t> Laurenceb__: I think your wm crashed
[12:35] <Laurenceb__> yeah i restarted my wm
[12:35] <TJ-> Laurenceb__: Which release of Ubuntu, and which desktop are you using?
[12:35] <Laurenceb__> metacity, this is an old 10.04 desktop im trying to upgrade
[12:36] <Cyb3rn3t> Laurenceb__: maybe I should try to restart the WM, or just the compiz, as compiz --replace
[12:36] <sveta> Laurenceb__: does alt+tab work?
[12:36] <sveta> to switch to another program and save your work, that is
[12:36] <Cyb3rn3t> if his WM crashed, he cannot use alt tab anymore
[12:38] <Cyb3rn3t> depends on what distro are you using
[12:39] <TJ-> Laurenceb__: You ought to be able to use wmctrl from a command-line
[12:41] <zamba> what is this nonsense with the emX interfaces? and how do i get rid of it?
[12:41] <zamba> i want my ethX
[12:43] <zykotick9> zamba: using specific driver names is the _new_ way for network devices... this is a way to go back to ethX/wlanX but i don't know it...
[12:43] <TJ-> Laurenceb__ (and others if the user returns): Switch to a VT with Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, then use " DISPLAY=:0.0 wmctrl -a "partial window title string"  "
[12:43] <zamba> zykotick9: *sigh*
[12:45] <cavallari> Hi
[12:45] <TJ-> zamba: It's a systemd-udevd/biosdevnames change to avoid interface renaming race conditions leaving interfaces unconfigured
[12:45] <cavallari> is there a way to create a bash in windows, and run on linux, without any problem?
[12:46] <TJ-> cavallari: Bash scripts are just text, so as long as they don't refer to OS-specific file paths or services, shell scripts should be portable
[12:46] <llutz> cavallari: a script you mean? its only a plain textfile, just make sure to use proper lineendings in your editor
[12:46] <Cyb3rn3t> cavallari: it doesnt matter where you write the script, but dont test under powershell...
[12:47] <cavallari> But I created a .sh wich writes out another file with EOF and a command in the end... but it writes the EOF and the command into the file
[12:47] <user> help for ltsp
[12:48] <Guest49458> want to configure ltsp on 12.04 and connect client to rdestop
[12:48] <Cyb3rn3t> Guest49458: intresting
[12:49] <Guest49458> yup already done on open suse but now moved to ubuntu .. so need help
[12:49] <__Myst__> Do I need to do anything special to install feh?
[12:49] <__Myst__> Other than sudo apt-get install feh
[12:49] <Cyb3rn3t> Guest49458: what I did once, to integrate the xfreerdp in to thei client image
[12:50] <__Myst__> It tls me I don't have an imlib2 loader for jpeg
[12:50] <Cyb3rn3t> Guest49458: so client booted from ubuntu ltsp, and he got a windows rdp login session
[12:50] <Guest49458> correctr i need that
[12:52] <zykotick9> __Myst__: i'd suggest trying to install libjpeg-progs
[12:52] <Cyb3rn3t> Guest49458: not a big deal, I found some instructions to create ltsp under ubuntu, but its a little tricky, so better to start searching on ubuntu forums..., as I remember, I had to add something in to the pxeboot config file
[12:53] <goju> My Ubuntu software centre crashes and I have a white hypen in a red button beside network icon which says : n Error occured please run package manager from right click menu or apt-get in a terminal to see what is wrong
[12:53] <__Myst__> I already have it, zykotick9
[12:53] <Cyb3rn3t> Guest49458: after all you need to install the xrdp on to the ltsb build directory, and rebuild the images
[12:53] <Guest49458> o
[12:53] <Guest49458> ok
[12:54] <Guest49458> come at prvate chat
[12:54] <Cyb3rn3t> Guest49458: AFAIK, there is complete solutions for this
[12:54] <Cyb3rn3t> Guest49458: openClient ?
[12:54] <Cyb3rn3t> http://openthinclient.org/de/openthinclient/
[12:54] <goju> Apart from this my Ubuntu sometimes darkens and freezes for 15-20 seconds and I often get repair option at start up
[12:55] <goju> what is hthe solution ?
[12:55] <zykotick9> __Myst__: ummm, sorry i got nothin' to suggest then.  good luck.  /me uses feh and has jpeg support... you might want to check "apt-cache depends feh" (on ubuntu) and see if anything is recommended that isn't installed.
[12:58] <goju> I am unale to run the package manager as suggested
[12:58] <TJ-> __Myst__: Have you "sudo apt-get install libimlib2" ?
[12:58] <goju> Plz Plz Plz any solution ?
[12:59] <Cyb3rn3t> goju: I remember that
[12:59] <Cyb3rn3t> goju: that is just an alert if something is went wrong with upgrade...
[13:00] <Cyb3rn3t> goju: that is not a problem, and it wont disappear until a new upgrade is finished successfully
[13:00] <Cyb3rn3t> goju: so just do the follows in a terminal window:
[13:00] <PCatinean> My internet connection seems to buffer badly and go really slow sometimes in this fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 when in windows it seems all ok
[13:00] <PCatinean> Any idea how I can debug this?
[13:00] <Cyb3rn3t> goju: sudo apt-get clean; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade -y
[13:01] <Cyb3rn3t> PCatinean: It looks like a wifi driver problem
[13:01] <PCatinean> Standard, and I think in the previous install I did nothing different and it worked ok
[13:02] <Cyb3rn3t> PCatinean: What does it mean Standard ? :D Go to system setting, software and updates, and addictional drivers tab
[13:03] <Cyb3rn3t> PCatinean: what choises do you have there ?
[13:03] <TJ-> PCatinean: buffers for all content or specific types, or from specific sites?
[13:03] <PCatinean> Cyb3rn3t, strictly vga related ones
[13:03] <PCatinean> TJ-, youtube the most common
[13:03] <TJ-> PCatinean: so, video content?
[13:04] <PCatinean> only yes