[09:37] <Sazzaj> __raven_: have you tested just hibernating from the shell?  Does that crash your rig?
[09:37] <bjensen82> woaw, need more coffee
[09:38] <bjensen82> __raven_: I meant automatically like monit or systemd
[09:38] <__raven_> Sazzaj: yes - monitor stays off and ssh not possible so it crashes at any time
[09:39] <dol> is there any knowledgeable guy on ALSA?
[09:40] <__raven_> dol: alsamixer in shell
[09:41] <dol> __raven_, I need help about asound.conf
[09:43] <Walex> dol: that's a loaded question..
[09:43] <Walex> dol: there is also and #ALSA channel but it is not that active.
[09:44] <Walex> dol: however, try to ask about your 'asound.conf' question, dangerous as it is.
[09:44] <maicsmarties> http://www.LittleStacy.com?id=99194
[09:44] <dol> Walex, I have asked there as well but as you said, not active. so I am trying my chance here.
[09:44] <dol> Walex, :)
[09:45] <Walex> dol: so go ahead and ask...
[09:45] <dol> Walex, I have an asound.conf which is pretty much copy paste form here :http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc#Virtual_multi_channel_devices
[09:46] <dol> Walex, what I do is, I have two soud cards and I multiplex incoming source to those sound cards
[09:46] <dol> Walex, works perfect. but here is the issue
[09:46] <dol> Walex, I have multiple sources as well. So I need to dmix incoming sources too
[09:46] <dol> I couldn't figure out how to use multi plugin togerther with dmix
[09:47] <dol> Walex, did you understand my issue?
[09:47] <Walex> dol: that sounds very dangerous... I did not understand fully because you seem to use 'incoming' and 'source' in an unexpected way.
[09:48] <Walex> dol: however I have written a details introduction to such things with a number of example in the links that follow.
[09:48] <dol> Walex, let's imagine that I have 3 audio sources and 2 sound cards. I want audio to be mixed and played in both sound cards.
[09:49] <Walex> dol: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#share
[09:49] <Walex> dol: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/ALSA/
[09:49] <dol> Walex, these are the links that I haven't met yet. I will read them and report you back
[09:50] <Walex> dol: but also consider a sound daemon to do that.
[09:50] <dol> Walex, how do you mean?
[09:50] <Walex> dol: something like JACK or PulseAudio
[09:51] <dol> Walex, but there is a plugin called dmix?
[09:51] <dol> Walex, i tried it and it works as well. but couldn't combine them (dmix and multi)
[09:53] <Walex> dol: most likely you want 'copy' rather than 'multi'. But you can stack 'dmix' and 'multi' or 'copy'.
[09:53] <dol> Walex, can you give me an example of stacking?
[09:53] <dol> Walex, and is there any copy plugin? I haven't heard of it yet
[09:54] <Walex> dol: e.g. 'plug:dmix' anyhow the sample config files in that directory show how to do it.
[09:55] <Walex> dol: the 'asound.conf' file is vaguely similar to Lisp macros, and you can have a plugin as an output of another plugin.
[09:55] <dol> Walex, I  will try that
[09:56] <Walex> as you will see from the sample 'asound.conf' the syntax is very peculiar to say the least
[09:57] <CaBa> hi
[09:57] <meet_praveen> how can we see running servers(like-apache,postgres....) in ubuntu
[09:58] <CaBa> ubuntu 12.04 LTS doesn't support installation / booting from EFI out of the box, right? I'm trying to install it on a DELL workstation on a 3 TB drive...
[09:58] <Walex> meet_praveen: those are called 'daemons' usually, and there is no guaranteed way to see only daemons, because daemons are by and large just ordinary processes, but there are imprecise ways.
[09:59] <Walex> meet_praveen: one way is 'service --status-all'.
[10:00] <hiuhewquheuwiwqe> hello i am at work using ubuntu here
[10:00] <meet_praveen> Walex: i shows all running services?
[10:00] <Walex> meet_praveen: another may be 'ps axu | egrep -v '(pts|tty)[0-9/]''
[10:00] <meet_praveen> Walex: it shows all running services?
[10:01] <Walex> CaBa: I think it does. Note that EFI can do both signed and not-signed booting depending on how you configure it.
[10:01] <hiuhewquheuwiwqe> but i cant install apps at work
[10:01] <hiuhewquheuwiwqe> anyway to circumvent this?
[10:01] <Walex> CaBa: 12.04 has signed kernels and booting available, not sure if it can do *install* with them.
[10:02] <Walex> hiuhewquheuwiwqe: you can only install packages in the default system locations if you have 'root' permissions.
[10:02] <k1l> hiuhewquheuwiwqe: if you dont have sudo-rights (are not in the admin group) talk to the admin
[10:02] <Walex> hiuhewquheuwiwqe: but you can surely create your own package subtree under your home directory; but you have to recompile things usually.
[10:03] <Walex> meet_praveen: try them...
[10:04] <hiuhewquheuwiwqe> okay ty Walex cant i run apps from an usb-stick?
[10:05] <meet_praveen> Walex: 'service --status-all' works fine but dosen't show exact result which i need
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> k1l: isnt it the sudo group instead of admin nowe, more in line with Debian :)
[10:06] <k1l> ActionParsnip: you are right
[10:09] <Guest54577> hello
[10:12] <mkozjak> what happened with add-apt-repository in saucy?
[10:12] <mkozjak> there's no script anymore (python props installed)
[10:12] <ObrienDave> still works for me
[10:12] <wilee-nilee> mkozjak, and me to
[10:13] <mkozjak> how come, guys?
[10:13] <mkozjak> dpkg -L python-software-properties | grep add | wc -l
[10:13] <mkozjak> 0
[10:13] <marion> djaklsjdasl
[10:15] <mkozjak> ObrienDave: can you try: dpkg -S add-apt-repository // please? same for wilee-nilee
[10:15] <celica> hello
[10:16] <marion> sassas
[10:16] <celica> hj
[10:16] <ObrienDave> I did this: sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:kxstudio-debian/kxstudio
[10:16] <celica> hi
[10:16] <marion> tdr
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> !test | marion
[10:16] <marion> hello
[10:16] <mkozjak> ObrienDave: which package provides add-apt-repository?
[10:17] <ObrienDave> not sure
[10:17] <wilee-nilee> !info add-apt-repository
[10:17] <mkozjak> ObrienDave: can you find out? dpkg -S add-apt-repository
[10:17] <glitsj16> mkozjak: sudo dpkg -S add-apt-repository | grep bin > software-properties-common here
[10:17] <mkozjak> glitsj16: thanks!
[10:17] <wilee-nilee> !find add-apt-repository
[10:17] <Terabyte> when I isntall apparmor,  apt-get install -y apparmor apparmor-profiles, running apparmor_status tells me apparmor module is not loaded. 12.04 64 bit LTS server.
[10:17] <marion> testing nyu nga
[10:17] <celica> :)
[10:17] <marion> test
[10:17] <celica> weh
[10:18] <jatt> !test
[10:18] <k1l> marion: please keep this channel free for support. join #test for testing irc
[10:18] <DJones> marion: celica: jatt: Stop that this is a support channel
[10:18] <denz_> hello
[10:18] <denz_> aloha
[10:18] <marion> dsd
[10:18] <misterli> Hello. I tried everything to get my ati radeon hd 6700 running with ati drivers on latest ubuntu. it will not work. I tried everything what i could find. Using the driver manager, installing the deb package, modifing the fglrx ...  the screen keeps black after installing. Any idea?
[10:20] <celica> hello
[10:21] <denz_> lag
[10:21] <denz_> clear
[10:21] <wooter> /clear
[10:21] <wilee-nilee> misterli, some askubuntu threads maybe worth looking at. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=radeon+hd+6700
[10:22] <whatwhatinthebut> k
[10:23] <onazari> how to use utm coordinate in linux?
[10:23] <misterli> thanks. tried all this hints but same result. none
[10:23] <Terabyte> when I isntall apparmor,  apt-get install -y apparmor apparmor-profiles, running apparmor_status tells me apparmor module is not loaded. 12.04 64 bit LTS server.
[10:24] <ObrienDave> onazari, in what way?
[10:25] <marion> dsd
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> !ops | marion
[10:25] <winb> !chess
[10:26] <zztopless> hey everyone
[10:26] <ObrienDave> marion, STOP THAT
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> DJones: tnx
[10:26] <NET||abuse> i'm trying to use ssh -D 8989 myremotebox   and firefox doesn't seem to want to work
[10:27] <zztopless> Wondering if anyone has had success seting up their xorg.conf file to allow monitors running off sifferent GPUs to wrun together (nouveau does this out of the box, but I need to be able to use the nvidia driver for cuda)
[10:27] <Walex> NET||abuse: have you told Firefox that is your proxy port?
[10:27] <NET||abuse> i use -vN to get debug output on the ssh terminal,, i just get"debug1: Connection to port 8989 forwarding to socks port 0 requested." and 2 more lines
[10:28] <zztopless> the other gpu is the intel onboard that comes with most z77 boards
[10:28] <lucido> can someone please tell me what's wrong with my xorg.conf? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404566/
[10:28] <aslan> hi how can I set the password in grub2
[10:28] <NET||abuse> " channel 2: new [dynamic-tcpip]"    and  "channel 2: free: dynamic-tcpip, nchannels 3"
[10:29] <NET||abuse> Walex: yeh, i configured the network settings, i've tried unticking "use this proxy server for all protocols" and set ssl,ftp and socks by hand  to localhost:8989
[10:29] <zztopless> lucido: what gpu are you running?
[10:29] <NET||abuse> so it seems to be hitting the ssh tunnel, but not actually utilising it.
[10:30] <Rhomber> question, does anyone know of any USB sound cards (with SPDIF and 5.1 channels) that work with Ubuntu? (pulse e.t.c.)?
[10:30] <Walex> NET||abuse: that's not the right thing. '-D' sets up a SOCKS proxy, not an SSL or FTP proxy.
[10:30] <NET||abuse> Walex: i do a curl --socks5 <IP_ADDRESS>:8989 http://www.google.co.uk   and that worked.
[10:30] <Rhomber> been searching all day, after finding out my creative extigy isn't compatible
[10:31] <Walex> NET||abuse: Firefox you need to set only the SOCKS setting to have all other Firefox protocols proxied by SOCKS.
[10:31] <NET||abuse> ahhh
[10:31] <lucido> zztopless, nvidia-304 driver, problem is that x starts up with NULL modeline and defaults on 1024x768, what mt lcd cant display
[10:32] <lucido> GT630
[10:32] <Walex> NET||abuse: note that it is not necessarily the case that *DNS* requests are proxied via SOCKSs. If that matters you may need to check that.
[10:32] <NET||abuse> yeh, saw that in the about:conifg
[10:32] <glitsj16> aslan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Passwords, the usual 'be carefull not to lock yourself out' notice applies
[10:33] <zztopless> lucido: looks alot different to my xorg.conf (sorry am in windows atm, don't have access to it), I am running kubuntu, but still
[10:33] <NET||abuse> Walex: but really i just want to hit a server from my home ip rather than work ip for testing :)
[10:33] <zztopless> there is no reference to your gpu which seems strange
[10:33] <Walex> NET||abuse: for testing, sure... :-)
[10:34] <NET||abuse> Walex: so blanking out those http, ssl and ftp values and ports just leaves the tab spinning when i try google.
[10:34] <Walex> NET||abuse: if you have low latency to home it may be safer to setup x VNC session and running the browser entiely at home.
[10:34] <NET||abuse> hmm,
[10:34] <Walex> NET||abuse: works here... I'll try again.
[10:34] <zztopless> I have been playing around with mine to try and get the onbaord and discreent gpus running together to run 3 monitors and I have a device section for the gpu
[10:34] <NET||abuse> Walex: seems like hastle, also i dont have X on my home box, headless little microserver
[10:35] <zztopless> something like: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18382271/how-can-i-modify-xorg-conf-file-to-force-x-server-to-run-on-a-specific-gpu-i-a
[10:35] <onazari> @ObrienDave  I want darw a plan by utm in librecad.
[10:35] <Walex> NET||abuse: a VNC server does not need an real X session, it is all in memory.
[10:36] <NET||abuse> Walex: oh i know, but you still need massive amount of supporting packages t run a remote X application over ssh x forwarding
[10:36] <NET||abuse> or even vnc
[10:36] <NET||abuse> Walex: I just don't want to dirty up my remote server with all that.
[10:37] <aslan> hi how can I set the password in grub2
[10:38] <ObrienDave> onazari, how large of an area?
[10:38] <Priesty> Hi everyone I have a question that i hope someone can help me with, I would like to add Linux to the WINDOWS 8 boot menu, I have UEFI with Secure Boot and both systems can be booted from the UEFI boot menu. I have GPT harddrive so easybsd or visual bcd cannot help. Does anyone know how to use bcdedit to do this??? I can't seem to find anyone who can answer this question please help
[10:38] <Walex> NET||abuse: I just tried SOCKSing here and it works as expected.
[10:39] <Walex> NET||abuse: I have all other proxies as empty and "SOCKS Host" as "localhost"
[10:40] <Walex> NET||abuse: and obviously "Manual proxy configuration" clicked
[10:40] <Priesty> Hi everyone I have a question that i hope someone can help me with, I would like to add Linux to the WINDOWS 8 boot menu, I have UEFI with Secure Boot and both systems can be booted from the UEFI boot menu. I have GPT harddrive so easybsd or visual bcd cannot help. Does anyone know how to use bcdedit to do this??? I can't seem to find anyone who can answer this question please help
[10:41] <NET||abuse> Walex:
[10:41] <Walex> Pricey: if you repeat a question please wait at least 10-15m...
[10:41] <Priesty> Hi everyone I have a question that i hope someone can help me with, I would like to add Linux to the WINDOWS 8 boot menu, I have UEFI with Secure Boot and both systems can be booted from the UEFI boot menu. I have GPT harddrive so easybsd or visual bcd cannot help. Does anyone know how to use bcdedit to do this??? I can't seem to find anyone who can answer this question please help
[10:41] <ObrienDave> !patience | Priesty
[10:42] <NET||abuse> Walex: oops, premeture return keypress.. :) but yes, manual proxy config selected, it's a radio anyway, which enabled the other fields, so it has to be selected to enter anything in http or socks fields
[10:42] <Priesty> ok sorry
[10:42] <Walex> NET||abuse: then double check the settings in 'about:config' with "proxy" as "Search:" value.
[10:43] <DJones> Priesty: Have you asked in ##windows There may be somebody there who can help, I didn't even know there was a bcdedit for linux
[10:43] <Priesty> the bcd store is no in the uefi partition
[10:44] <Priesty> *now*
[10:44] <onazari> ObrienDave:near 45 km
[10:45] <Priesty> the uefi uses the bcd store to figure out which boot mangers and boot loaders are
[10:46] <esdf> any way to transfer youtube videos between channels of same profile?
[10:47] <ObrienDave> onazari, I would do the plan in meters. no need to convert to UTM
[10:49] <Paulus68_1> Priesty: perhaps this might be usefull to you http://www.simplehelp.net/2013/07/11/the-complete-guide-how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-and-windows-8/
[10:50] <Paulus68_1> Priesty:  or this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/236787/install-ubuntu-next-to-windows-8-uefi-dual-boot
[10:53] <Paulus68_1> Priesty: think this might get you going the right way https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[10:55] <esdf> anyone using googlecl to upload?
[10:56] <Priesty> Thank you for your suggestions but these do not address what i was asking, I have both windows 8 and linux booting with secure boot enabled fine from the uefi boot menu and I have grub booting windows but I cannot find the information on how to add linux to the windows boot menu using bcdedit
[10:56] <Priesty> because i have gpt harddrive i cannot use visual bcd or easybcd
[10:57] <Priesty> I must add it to the windows menu by using bcdedit
[10:58] <Priesty> I had it working by copying windows boot MANAGER entry and editting it for linux but when i restored the bcd store and tried to do it again it I couldn't unfortunately
[11:00] <OerHeks>  Priesty use grub, because linux updates grub when a new kernel is installed.
[11:01] <Guest63365> hi
[11:04] <onazari> ObrienDave: how to scale to print plan on A4 paper
[11:04] <aslan> join  #null0x00
[11:04] <the_drow> Hi guys I'm trying to install WavLink ug39dk1 universal docking station on Ubuntu 13.10 & 13.04. Where can I find drivers for it?
[11:04] <the_drow> The only thing that doesn't work are the screens.
[11:05] <ObrienDave> onazari, that I don't know. haven't used LibreCad. sorry
[11:06] <onazari> ObrienDave: how do the plan without utm?
[11:07] <ObrienDave> onazari, it's just numbers, doesn't matter if your using 1 inch, 1 foot, 1 yard, 1 Kilometer. you only need the numbers
[11:10] <ObrienDave> onazari, now, if you actually need to make an object, that's when you need to convert from inches to millimeters, for example
[11:12] <onazari> ObrienDave:tanks
[11:13] <aslan> HI, I have problem with grub the issue is I cant see the grub menu at the time of booting even after giving the grub timeout in grub.cfg
[11:14] <esdf> is it possible to select which channel to upload to youtube using googlecl? because right now my uploads end up in parent channel and there's no way for me to easily transfer them between channels
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> aslan: hold SHIFT at boot, does it help?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> esdf: man googlecl      amy show how
[11:15] <aslan> ActionParsnip, I tried that, its not working
[11:16] <esdf> ActionParsnip nop, just read thru their manual page online, doesn't show anything
[11:16] <esdf> ActionParsnip well is there any command line tool that lets me select a channel under account?
[11:16] <aslan> ActionParsnip, sometimes the grub menu is appearing but I can see only one entry in that
[11:16] <glitsj16> aslan: i need to hit the Esc key, seems to differ
[11:18] <Priesty> I would use grub but unfortunately microsoft tends to set its boot manager as the default one each time windows updates certain files
[11:18] <Priesty> hence the need to have a fall back with the windows boot menu
[11:19] <Priesty> so I really need to add linux to the bcd store in the efi partition using bcdedit in windows
[11:19] <aslan> ActionParsnip, glitsj16, The actual issue is GRUB menu doesn't have much info, i mean the GRUB menu have only one entry im not getting the init  levels to load or changing  the other variables
[11:20] <Priesty> That way I will see it on the windows boot menu and grub and the user can switch back and forth as they wish
[11:20] <glitsj16> aslan: is this grub2 ?
[11:21] <aslan> glitsj16, yes its grub2
[11:21] <Priesty> so if anyone knows where to find the information for adding linux to the windows boot menu with uefi/secure boot and gpt harddrive partitions
[11:21] <Priesty> You'll make my day
[11:22] <glitsj16> aslan: more recent ubuntu's offer grub submenus, might be also helpfull if you could pastebin /etc/default/grub
[11:23] <aslan> glitsj16, do you want grub.cfg ?
[11:24] <glitsj16> aslan: no, let's start with /etc/default/grub
[11:24] <glitsj16> aslan: that's the main grub2 configuration that puts the /boot/grub/grub.cfg together
[11:25] <hitsujiTMO> Priestly: you don't need to add windows to the grub menu for uefi. just use the efi boot manager
[11:25] <hitsujiTMO> Priesty: or the other way around. even
[11:25] <aslan> glitsj16, I will bundle the grub folder and give you now
[11:29] <Priesty> I can add windows to grub not a problem but windows tends to put it's boot manager as the default one when it updates certain files so it is important that there is a linux enrty in the windows boot menu
[11:29] <Priesty> but no one knows how to do this with gpt harddrive
[11:30] <hitsujiTMO> Priesty: your uefi/bios has its own boot manager. Use that. adding another os to BCD messes up the fast boot anytime you want to boot to another OS.
[11:32] <Priesty> I have been using that menu no problems but we produce a java program that runs on linux for older users that need an easy to use interface so they can choose between linux or windows
[11:33] <Priesty> it is not always f9 to boot a different os
[11:35] <picapica> hi. I am running some cpu intensive processes and for some reason the processes are running much slower than they ought to be.
[11:35] <Priesty> so I know it is possible to add linux to the windows boot menu and have it booting with fast boot because i have already done it but when i tried to do it again it did not work so i obviously did something the first time that i may not been aware of
[11:35] <picapica> I believe the processes that are running are also very disk intensive so that might be a possible issue as well.
[11:35] <picapica> is there are diagnostic tool in the standard Ubuntu Quantal distro that will let me check to see what may be the problem?
[11:35] <aslan> glitsj16, I'm uploading my grubd to you, please have a check
[11:36] <picapica> I see deleting the gvfs-metadata as a possible fix but that appears to have to do with Nautilus.
[11:36] <glitsj16> aslan: what do you mean 'uploading to me'? :) a simple pastebin will do
[11:37] <aslan> glitsj16,  I have all 00_header and other files
[11:37] <glitsj16> aslan: that's fine
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> picapica: you could set a lower nice value to give the process more priority
[11:39] <picapica> ActionParsnip: I have many cores. this shouldn't matter.
[11:39] <picapica> and nothing running at the same time.
[11:39] <aslan> glitsj16, This is my 00_header "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404838/"
[11:42] <glitsj16> aslan: ok, i'll get the pastes .. in the meantime, let me ask if you edited some files in /etc/grub.d? If not, no need to send those
[11:42] <glitsj16> aslan: and don't forget /etc/default/grub
[11:43] <Paulus68_1> Is there a good free alternative for ExQuilla in thunderbird to link the exchange with thunderbird
[11:45] <picapica> another question, how can I make apt-get look in some directory for packages I want to install?
[11:46] <picapica> say I want to install some package and it has dependencies xyz. how do I tell apt-get to look for xyz in some directorY?
[11:46] <picapica> can I just put everything in /var/cache/apt/archive and it will look for it there?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> picapica: use dpkg to install deb files you have stored
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> picapica: the copy may work
[11:46] <picapica> ok, thanks.
[11:47] <glitsj16> aslan: 00_header seems ok to me, let's take another one
[11:47] <aslan> glitsj16, The /etc/default/grub is in this link "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404851/"
[11:49] <shambat> what could be the reason for my /etc/hostname and the hostname command showing different values for hostname? :P
[11:50] <glitsj16> aslan: that doesn't look like /etc/default/grub .. would you please doublecheck?
[11:50] <xet7> Does "USN-2014-1: OpenSSH vulnerability" affect only Ubuntu 13.10 ? Not 12.04 LTS ?
[11:51] <aslan> glitsj16, sorry, this is the grub "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404881/"
[11:51] <Priesty> how can i add linux to windows 8 boot menu using bcdedit and gpt harddrives???
[11:51] <glitsj16> aslan: no problem, we'll get there
[11:53] <glitsj16> aslan: looks fine, you have a 10sec window to hit a key and show the menu at boot
[11:53] <PaRaD0xxR> hi, I need help sharing my printer on 12.04 LTS with other pcs on my network, a mix of xp and win7
[11:53] <OerHeks> xet7, 13.10 only >> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2014-1/
[11:54] <glitsj16> aslan: now would be a good moment to pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:54] <PaRaD0xxR> I checked the printer settings, and shared is checked, but also says "not published".
[11:54] <xet7> OerHeks: ok thanks! :)
[11:55] <aslan> glitsj16,  Here my grub.cfg is "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404851/"
[11:57] <PaRaD0xxR> o, and I my issue from the other day with my second hard drive not always being seen by ubutu, seems to have been a loose cable after all, I re-tightened it, and it's stayed fixed 3 reboots in a row
[11:57] <PaRaD0xxR> odd that xp never had issues w/it being loose
[11:58] <brandy> can someone help me with c++?
[11:58] <OerHeks> aslan,  do not use "" as it makes your url unclickable
[11:58] <PaRaD0xxR> now I need to set up print sharing with the rest of my lan
[11:59] <aslan> OerHeks, Thank you for your information, I will not use next time :)
[11:59] <dol> Walex, just for your info, I have fixed my issue with the info here: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2013-November/068579.html
[11:59] <moppy> PaRaD0xxR, Odd that you consider the OS to responsible for a hardware issue. Probably knocked the computer or something...
[12:00] <glitsj16> aslan: now i understand your problem better, that is very incomplete .. please paste output of ls -l /etc/grub.d
[12:00] <DJones> PaRaD0xxR: I'm glad you solved that disk issue, it was really wierd how it was showing up in Windows, but not Ubuntu
[12:00] <PaRaD0xxR> heh..all I'm saying, 2nd hard drive only sporadically showed up the way it was booting into Ubuntu, but xp saw it everytime..just the facts ;)
[12:00] <PaRaD0xxR> yeah, bizarre
[12:00] <PaRaD0xxR> could be coindence, but 3 reboots now, and it's still there fine ;)
[12:01] <PaRaD0xxR> cable was somewhat loose, had just put a new right angle cable on it
[12:01] <moppy> PaRaD0xxR, If it's a loose cable, it's OS-independent. Either the firmware sees the drive and reports it to the OS, or it doesn't.
[12:01] <PaRaD0xxR> ahh
[12:01] <PaRaD0xxR> now I can't figure out how to share my printer on here
[12:01] <PaRaD0xxR> I assume that's an easier fix ;)
[12:02] <Walex> brandy: there is a specific channel for C/C++ help
[12:02] <aslan> glitsj16, here is the list of grub.d http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404932/
[12:03] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: you need to set the printer to be shared and make is discoverable to other machines
[12:03] <st_prg> Hi guys, I'm having a bit of an issue with my menu. Nothing is visible except files.
[12:03] <PaRaD0xxR> I think it is shared
[12:03] <PaRaD0xxR> the box is checked
[12:03] <PaRaD0xxR> enabled is checked, shared is checked..
[12:03] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: please dont use the enter key just type all you need to say in one go
[12:04] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: is this on ubuntu?
[12:04] <PaRaD0xxR> ok sorry ;) yes, 12.04.
[12:04] <st_prg> This is what I'm seeing... http://s17.postimg.org/x37fxo4gf/Screenshot_from_2013_11_12_20_00_46.png
[12:04] <glitsj16> aslan: looks ok .. did you try to regenerate /boot/grub/grub.cfg by running 'sudo update-grub' yet? Please try that and resend /boot/grub/grub.cfg pls
[12:04] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: in printer properties you need to click the server tab and tick enable to be discovered
[12:05] <PaRaD0xxR> on the policies page, enabled.accepting jobs, and shared all checked, but says "not published - see server settings"
[12:05] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: ^^ server settings ;)
[12:05] <PaRaD0xxR> hm....I dont' see a server settings tab?
[12:06] <PaRaD0xxR> o...in the menu bar?
[12:06] <PaRaD0xxR> I was looking in the window ;)
[12:07] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: yeah !! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[12:07] <PaRaD0xxR> :)
[12:07] <PaRaD0xxR> thanks,  I see it now
[12:07] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: I always found it odd that shared was not enough
[12:08] <PaRaD0xxR> yeah, that option should in the window with the other stuff, I will try it now and let you know
[12:09] <aslan> glitsj16, while doing the update Im getting the error as "cat: /boot/grub/video.lst: No such file or directory
[12:09] <aslan> "
[12:09] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: if you need to print to it from windows all you need to do is install Samba on the ubuntu print server and reboot. Windows will then find it as a network printer
[12:09] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: no other settings needed. I did this last week.
[12:13] <glitsj16> aslan: looks like a reinstall of your grub2 packages are needed, you're missing critical files .. what do you use to install software on your machine ? I ask because our systems will differ , i can't simply give you a command just yet .. but this explains your trouble
[12:15] <PaRaD0xxR> hmmm...samba?
[12:15] <PaRaD0xxR> I can see other windows machines fine, does that mean samba is already setup?   Or is this something also needed for printing?
[12:17] <aslan> glitsj16, I GRUB has been updated successfully by creating the file video.lst in /boot/grub/video.lst and the new grub is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404984/
[12:17] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR:  for printing from windows to an ubuntu print server. Also use for file access. Basically for printing you just install samba package on the ubuntu machine that has the printer connected to it
[12:19] <PaRaD0xxR> philinux:  that's what I'm asking...how can I tell if its already installed?
[12:19] <glitsj16> aslan: how exactly did you create video.lst? there's still no boot items in there
[12:20] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: apt-cache policy samba
[12:20] <PaRaD0xxR> I can see windows pcs files already, just can't print from them
[12:20] <aslan> glitsj16, This is the command to create that "echo vbe | tee /boot/grub/video.lst"
[12:20] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: it only needs installing on the ubuntu print server to
[12:21] <PaRaD0xxR> says "samba : installed: (none)"
[12:22] <PaRaD0xxR> candidate...version table.  I'm assuming this means it isn't installed?
[12:22] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: your eyes do not deceive you
[12:22] <glitsj16> aslan: fine, but your 10_linux section is not showing any bootable menu items .. strange
[12:22] <PaRaD0xxR> sudo apt-get install samba then?
[12:23] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: indeed
[12:23] <PaRaD0xxR> I have to reboot?
[12:23] <philinux> PaRaD0xxR: ah you'll need to reboot the print server for samba to be running.
[12:23] <PaRaD0xxR> ok, brb
[12:24] <shambat> which is authoritative? /etc/hostname or the hostname command? my system is showing different things for these two.
[12:24] <glitsj16> aslan: in http://paste.ubuntu.com/6404851/ you at least at the 'MAC Gio V1.0' item, now that is gone too
[12:26] <glitsj16> aslan: is this a fresh install? and of which ubuntu?
[12:26] <aslan> glebihan, its ubuntu 11.0
[12:26] <aslan> and its not a fress install,my friend have done someting in this
[12:26] <aslan> I'm not able to fix this
[12:26] <glitsj16> aslan: nice friend lol
[12:27] <aslan> glitsj16,  :)
[12:28] <glitsj16> aslan: maybe that's why you're looking to password protect your grub hehe .. 11.0 is no longer supported btw, you are aware of that yes?
[12:29] <aslan> glitsj16, ya I knew that
[12:29] <aslan> glitsj16, is there any other possibility to fix this
[12:30] <glitsj16> aslan: i can't see anything directly, but i'll look around in the forums etc. ok
[12:31] <aslan> glitsj16, Thank you for your support
[12:31] <glitsj16> aslan: you will need all the grub related packages and reinstall them, not sure where we can track those down for 11.0
[12:32] <glitsj16> aslan: no problem, didn't really solve anything yet :) .. do you have a live cd of 11.0 by any chance?
[12:33] <philinux> shambat: both same here
[12:34] <PaRaD0xx> hmmm
[12:34] <PaRaD0xx> don't know if I missed anything there
[12:35] <st_prg> Hi guys, I'm still having an issue with my menu. Only category that is showing is Files and Folders, although I also have applications selected.
[12:35] <shambat> philinux: if you have the chance, could you try to change it with the hostname command? sudo hostname yourhostname.local
[12:35] <shambat> and then check
[12:35] <PaRaD0xx> I can see the computer thats sharing the printer now in the add printer dialogs...but not a printer under it
[12:35] <st_prg> http://s17.postimg.org/x37fxo4gf/Screenshot_from_2013_11_12_20_00_46.png
[12:35] <philinux> shambat: have you seen the man page for hostname
[12:36] <meet_praveen> can i split the hard disk in several partition in ubuntu like in  windows
[12:36] <PaRaD0xx> "you need to specify a valid network printer name"
[12:36] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: now on the windows machine you need to search for network printers from the printer dialog gui
[12:37] <aslan> glitsj16, ya I do have that
[12:37] <philinux> meet_praveen: yep
[12:37] <meet_praveen> philinux: how?
[12:37] <PaRaD0xx> yeah, I browsed...and I see all my windows machines...and I see the name this ubuntu box gave to the printer...and the lil blue pc icon...but I can't click on it to see the printer icon
[12:37] <shambat> philinux: I just did and it seems to have cleared things up :)
[12:38] <DJones> meet_praveen: Yes you can, but you can't do it with a mounted disk, if the disk you want to partition has your operating system on, you'll need to use a LiveDVD/USB so that the hard drive isn't mounted when you come to partition it, you can use gparted to repartition
[12:38] <PaRaD0xx> if I click on it, I get "you need to specify a valid network printer name"
[12:38] <DJones> !partitioning | meet_praveen
[12:38] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: i'm not in win 7 at the moment. IIRc there's a button add network printer
[12:38] <glitsj16> aslan: ok, let's boot that and try to get back in here, we'll give a shot at moving the needed packages from that iso onto your natty
[12:39] <PaRaD0xx> this is actually xp atm
[12:39] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: you may need to reboot the win machine too
[12:40] <luzx> what?
[12:40] <aslan> glitsj16, you want me to boot and live cd for grub update
[12:40] <meet_praveen> philinux: in system it shows single disk
[12:41] <glitsj16> aslan: yes, we need a way to get at those grub related .deb files, otherwise your system will stay broken
[12:41] <philinux> meet_praveen: DJones gave you the answer
[12:41] <PaRaD0xx> k, I'm rebooting the xp box
[12:42] <PaRaD0xx> I can see the pc icon, has a plus...but can't click on it to see the printer
[12:42] <PaRaD0xx> still rebooting
[12:42] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: no idea how to with xp.
[12:42] <goldstar> i am using saucy and have noticed that everytime I start my PC it takes about 5-10 minutes for my interface card to connect to the network. Does anyone know how I can diagnose this ?
[12:42] <PaRaD0xx> maybe reboot will fix ;)
[12:43] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: the answer will be in the printers gui on xp and "out there" somewhere
[12:43] <PaRaD0xx> out there?
[12:43] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: net search on www
[12:43] <glitsj16> aslan: are you ok with that? and that will give you the opportunity to backup all what's on your presently unbootable system from that live cd as well
[12:44] <meet_praveen> philinux: DJones : i partitioned in two parts one for root installation and other with mount point boot ..so other partition is showing in system's boot folder
[12:44] <st_prg> Hello. I am having issues seeing menu items, I can only see files and folders. No applications.
[12:44] <aslan> glitsj16, ya glitch Could you plz give me the steps to do that... because I got few things to take the backup right now
[12:45] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/print_connect_net_printerw.mspx?mfr=true
[12:46] <philinux> st_prg: which ubuntu?
[12:46] <glitsj16> aslan: sure, let's focus on the grub issue first ok, once you've booted from your natty cd we'll see what we can solve and take it from there
[12:46] <meet_praveen>  DJones : i partitioned in two parts one for root installation and other with mount point boot ..so other partition is showing in system's boot folder....... now what should i do?
[12:47] <PaRaD0xx> philinux: thanks, I will keep trying
[12:47] <st_prg> philinux: 13.10 64 bit. Upgraded from 13.04 about a week ago, no issues up until today.
[12:47] <PaRaD0xx> something is blocking it, firewall perhaps? hmm
[12:47] <jnhghy> is there an open source program that will livestream my screen (while working on the computer)? I'd like to see on my screen exactly what another user is doing in livetime is there anything like this?
[12:48] <infused> RDP
[12:48] <GuybrushThreepwo> Question... If I have a jar file, how can I include a shortcut to execute that jar file without using the terminal?
[12:48] <glitsj16> aslan: i realize that coming here with a grub issue and getting the advice to update 11.04 isn't what you'd expect, but personally it's something i'd consider doing, but that's up to you ofcourse
[12:49] <aslan> glitsj16, How can I find you back in this, do you have any social link to connect you
[12:49] <infused> guybrushthreepwo like minecraft.jar?
[12:49] <glitsj16> aslan: i'llbe here for the next few hours
[12:50] <glitsj16> aslan: PM me if you're back, no problem
[12:50] <GuybrushThreepwo> infused, multibit-exe.jar
[12:50] <DJones> meet_praveen: What was the 2nd partition supposed to be for
[12:50] <philinux> st_prg: so you got desktop but no unity launcher on left or what?
[12:51] <st_prg> philinux: http://s17.postimg.org/x37fxo4gf/Screenshot_from_2013_11_12_20_00_46.png
[12:51] <aslan> glitsj16, Sure I will PM you
[12:51] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: it'll be something on the xp machine maybe.
[12:51] <meet_praveen> DJones: 2nd partition for safe space means  data in 2nd partition should not affected by re-installing of OS
[12:52] <glitsj16> aslan: ok .. i promise i won't fly off :)
[12:52] <GuybrushThreepwo> infused: I would imaging the same method would work as the method used to do it with minecraft.jar
[12:52] <GuybrushThreepwo> imagine*
[12:52] <GuybrushThreepwo> I just don't want to type it out every time
[12:52] <philinux> st_prg: I would reset unity and compiz back to default settings. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[12:52] <infused> guybrushthreepwo I think so too
[12:53] <st_prg> philinux: Ok
[12:54] <DJones> meet_praveen: Right, I'm not sure how you'll fix this, because you gave the 2nd partition the mountpoint 'boot' when you installed, that partition was set as /boot which is a specific folder used on linux systems and part of the system will have been installed into that
[12:54] <aslan> glitsj16, I think all this sort of issue can be solved only  by geeks, I need you let me restart and come back
[12:54] <Zorky> Where is the nautilus folder icon located? i want to change the icon on a shortcut
[12:54] <DJones> meet_praveen: I'm not sure if /boot can be moved to another location easily, give me a minute to have a look for something
[12:54] <glitsj16> aslan: ok, i've called worde things than geek ;)
[12:55] <glitsj16> *worse
[12:55] <GuybrushThreepwo> does anyone know how to do it? or if theres like a simply batch file i can make or something to put on the bar?
[12:55] <st_prg> philinux: Nope, still only the one category
[12:56] <meet_praveen> DJones: so , i have to re-install os?
[12:57] <DJones> meet_praveen: Its should be possible to move whats currently in /boot but I can't find instructions on how to do it easily, if you wait around the channel, somebody else may be able to help
[12:57] <philinux> st_prg: what happens when you click the A applications icon. Screenshot shows files highlighted
[12:58] <philinux> st_prg: secnond from left on bottom of Dash
[12:58] <DJones> meet_praveen: If you do reinstall, when you set the mount point for the 2nd partition, maybe use something like 'data' as the mount point which would force the install to create its /boot within the 1st partition automatically
[12:59] <st_prg> philinux: http://s13.postimg.org/ekclaln9z/Screenshot_from_2013_11_12_20_58_21.png
[12:59] <bgardner> GuybrushThreepwo: Yes, you can use a script and/or a *.desktop file.
[12:59] <meet_praveen> DJones: i just installed the os . so, no big issue with re-installation but could u tell me that what steps should i follow now
[12:59] <PaRaD0xx> philinux:  booted into a win7 laptop, it also can see the ubuntu machine, but can't see its files
[12:59] <GuybrushThreepwo> bgardner:  I don't know how to do that, can you help?
[12:59] <infused> guybrushthreepwo https://wiki.python.org/jython/JythonFaq/DistributingJythonScripts#Add_modules_and_paths_to_the_jar_file
[12:59] <philinux> st_prg: ok hang on
[12:59] <PaRaD0xx> and I assume printers either...do I have to enable sharing some other way on the ubuntu system?
[13:00] <DJones> meet_praveen: If you do that, just reinstall the same as previously, install ubuntu onto the 1st partition, and set the 2nd partition to mount as 'Data' or some other name
[13:00] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: well you need to share a folder for it to be seen
[13:00] <PaRaD0xx> o
[13:00] <philinux> same as a printer needs to be shared
[13:00] <GuybrushThreepwo> I found something on making bash file to do it
[13:00] <GuybrushThreepwo> what's the extension on that?
[13:00] <PaRaD0xx> yeah shared is checked...but nothing seems to be able to actually see it
[13:00] <GuybrushThreepwo> .bash?
[13:00] <PaRaD0xx> :(
[13:00] <meet_praveen> DJones: ok thanks :) . i m trying
[13:01] <PaRaD0xx> what should be in the location box?
[13:01] <GuybrushThreepwo> "addung module and path to jar file" is confusing
[13:01] <GuybrushThreepwo> i just want to drag something to the bar on the left and click it to run
[13:01] <GuybrushThreepwo> adding*
[13:01] <bgardner> GuybrushThreepwo, infused: I think Mr. Threepwood wants to just launch a jar without a terminal, not repackage it.  Is that correct, GuyBrush?
[13:02] <GuybrushThreepwo> Yeah
[13:02] <bgardner> GuybrushThreepwo: Okay, one moment while I rob one of my own java launcher configs.
[13:02] <GuybrushThreepwo> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-create-a-desktop-shortcut-to-a-jar-file-694885/
[13:02] <GuybrushThreepwo> I found this
[13:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> I just don't know about creating bash files, what extension to use, etc
[13:03] <Number5> Hello guys, I have ubuntu 12.04 installed. But I'd like to change the theme, because I simply just don't like the Ubuntu colors. Instead of tweaking, I rather want some ready made themes I can use. Which steps do I have to take?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: the extension on the bash file doesnt matter
[13:03] <st_prg> GuybrushThreepwo: Have a look at "shebang"
[13:03] <philinux> st_prg: cd ~/.local/share/ then rm -rf zeitgeist
[13:04] <GuybrushThreepwo> eh?
[13:04] <st_prg> philinux: Do I need to restart unity after that?
[13:04] <philinux> st_prg: setsid unity
[13:04] <GuybrushThreepwo> So you say "extension doesn't matter"
[13:04] <GuybrushThreepwo> if that's the case
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: as long as the file is executable and the 1st line is:   #!/bin/bash   you can have a .png extension on the file and it makes no difference at all, this isnt windows
[13:05] <GuybrushThreepwo> i see
[13:05] <st_prg> philinux: Still the same issue :/
[13:05] <bgardner> GuybrushThreepwo: Just create the bash file as indicated in your link, don't worry about the extension.  Name it my_script or whatever.
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: Linux is smart and does not rely on the file extension
[13:05] <krypto> ubuntu12.04 on which i can able to resolve ips,and most applications are working including package manager but browser is not working...any idea?
[13:05] <GuybrushThreepwo> ok ty
[13:05] <philinux> PaRaD0xx: there's this documentation https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: you can rename a .jpg to .bmp  and the OS will still see a jpg file
[13:06] <Zorky> how would i write the line in a .sh script . that askes the user for a yes no question on a reboot command?
[13:07] <philinux> st_prg: top right Gear > system settings > privacy >files and application> clear usage data
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6405216/
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: Zorky a bash script, you mean?
[13:08] <PaRaD0xx> hmmm
[13:08] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  yes. i want to ask the user for confirmation before proceeding with the script
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: read variablename; echo $variablename
[13:08] <GuybrushThreepwo> Ok, so I have a bash file with these 3 lines: #!/bin/bash cd /home/karl/MultiBit-0.5.14  java -jar multibit48.png
[13:08] <GuybrushThreepwo> Now what?
[13:08] <st_prg> philinux: Now I don't get files and folders.
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: a '.sh file' doesn't tell us much, file extensions are meaningless in Linux
[13:08] <GuybrushThreepwo> I click to open it and it's opened with text editor
[13:09] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  ohh yeah my mistake. a #!/bin/bash
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: what sort of file does the 'file' command say it is?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_08_02.html
[13:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> right click properties says
[13:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> shell script (application/x-shellscript)
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: i searched in google for 'user input bash'
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: is the file executable?
[13:10] <GuybrushThreepwo> I haven't done anything other than created the file and saved.
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: what is the name of the file and where is it saved?
[13:10] <GuybrushThreepwo> "multibit" in home
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: chmod +x ~/multibit
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: will mark it executable
[13:11] <infused> zorky this was kind like what you are doing http://stackoverflow.com/questions/226703/how-do-i-prompt-for-input-in-a-linux-shell-script
[13:11] <philinux> st_prg: log out then back in
[13:11] <GuybrushThreepwo> One last question
[13:12] <GuybrushThreepwo> is there any way to get rid of this 4 workplaces thing?
[13:12] <GuybrushThreepwo> i don't like it
[13:12] <st_prg> philinux: Already tried a full restart
[13:12] <Zorky> infused:  that is exactly what im looking for. an example that is allready sat up. so i can copy it and change to my needs
[13:12] <GuybrushThreepwo> or disable it
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: set your workspaces to 1x1 and it will go, what shell / desktop do you use?
[13:12] <infused> zorky hope it helps shouldnt be to hard to tweek
[13:13] <GuybrushThreepwo> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: with Unity shell?
[13:13] <GuybrushThreepwo> i assume so
[13:14] <philinux> st_prg: try the guest user
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: does it look like this http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1219/screenshot100113154720.png
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38789/how-do-i-add-and-remove-the-workspace-switcher-launcher-from-the-unity-launcher
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1970450
[13:16] <meet_praveen> DJones: now i didn't selected any mount point for 2nd partition
[13:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> Okay, I'll follow the ubuntu 12.04 instructions, thanks
[13:17] <Zorky> infused:  now i get confused. i want that to ask the user if he wants to reboot and if answered yes . it should reboot the pc
[13:17] <DJones> meet_praveen: ok, thats something you do after the install is complete anyway
[13:17] <GuybrushThreepwo> I don't like it, it makes me move things to other places or too far off grid on accident
[13:17] <st_prg> philinux: Yes, Guest has applications.
[13:18] <meet_praveen> DJones: what will be steps after installation
[13:18] <philinux> st_prg: ok so some settings messed up with main user.
[13:19] <DJones> meet_praveen: You'd neet to create a folder in /media or /mnt called with a name you want to use (eg Data), then you would edit your fstab file to add that folder as a mount point, next time you rebooted, you'd have access to the storage partition
[13:20] <philinux> st_prg: rm ~/.cache/software-center -R the use the dconf thing to reset unity again
[13:20] <GuybrushThreepwo> The folder /usr/share/unity-2d/shell/launcher/ doesn't exist when I look for it using text editor
[13:20] <meet_praveen> DJones: ok :)
[13:20] <GuybrushThreepwo> the shell folder seems to have 3 other folders: panel, shell, and spread
[13:20] <GuybrushThreepwo> nvm
[13:21] <GuybrushThreepwo> i'm dumb
[13:21] <DJones> meet_praveen: When you get to that point, just come back into the channel, I'm sure plenty of people will be able to talk you through that
[13:21] <st_prg> philinux: Still no luck :/
[13:23] <infused> Zorky I found another site http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/shutdown_and_reboot/
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> GuybrushThreepwo: just make a backup of anything you change then you can easily roll back
[13:24] <Zorky> i got a command to work. where it asks. but it asks for a number instead of y or n
[13:24] <philinux> st_prg: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-scope-home then logout then in
[13:24] <infused> Zorky half way there:D
[13:25] <GuybrushThreepwo> Okay, so
[13:25] <GuybrushThreepwo> I made the bash file
[13:25] <GuybrushThreepwo> put it on my desktop anyway
[13:26] <GuybrushThreepwo> is there a way to have it on my dash?
[13:26] <brontosaurusrex> GuybrushThreepwo, not sure about unity, but usually making a .dekstop file in the appropriate location does the trick
[13:27] <GuybrushThreepwo> eh
[13:27] <st_prg> philinux: Ok, will be right back.
[13:27] <infused> guybrushthreepwo http://askubuntu.com/questions/67753/how-do-i-add-an-application-to-the-dash
[13:27] <GuybrushThreepwo> ill just settle for a desktop icon for now i guess
[13:27] <GuybrushThreepwo> ill look into that thanks
[13:28] <ucz15> no elo
[13:30] <fishduck> when is ubuntu 14 coming out?
[13:30] <DJones> fishduck: April and October
[13:30] <DJones> !14.04 | fishduck
[13:30] <fishduck> also, will it really be an awesome release as said, or are there just some minor updates?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> fishduck, yes.  no.  crystal ball says answer unclear.
[13:31] <st_prg> pilinux: That worked - thanks!
[13:31] <DJones> fishduck: It will be LTS though, so I guess that counts towards the awesome release :)
[13:31] <Rory> fishduck: In general LTS releases have focussed more on stability and bugfixes than headline features
[13:32] <philinux> st_prg: must have been a bug during an update that removed the unity-scope-home package
[13:32] <mmichalik> exit
[13:32] <mmichalik> quit
[13:32] <mmichalik> :q
[13:33] <DJones> mmichalik: its /quit
[13:33] <LjL> try harder
[13:33] <philinux> st_prg: also fire up software center it will need to have it's index rebuilt after we deleted it
[13:33] <st_prg> philinux: I guess so. Anyway, thank you for your support. I appreciate it very much.
[13:33] <DJones> mmichalik: or /part
[13:33] <st_prg> philinux: Ok, sure thing.
[13:33] <mmichalik> ya, should read docs first :) ty
[13:34] <philinux> st_prg: funny thing is I've not had any trouble with my two machines at all lol.
[13:34] <st_prg> philinux: That's how it should be :P But alas it is not.
[13:37] <Zorky> infused:  it aint working :/
[13:43] <Togusa> question: is it normal that the network-manager package is installed but the /etc/init.d/NetworkManager script is missing? has it been moved? it's a command line ubuntu 13.10 install with a de on top of it
[13:44] <PaRaD0xx> ok, making progress with the printing situation, sudo disable ufw makes it so I can now see the printer from windows...but still can't print
[13:44] <PaRaD0xx> printer name is invalid
[13:46] <PaRaD0xx> hmm
[13:47] <Togusa> hey PaRaD0xx
[13:47] <Togusa> are you using 13.10? can you please check if you have /etc/init.d/NetworkManager? my installation doesn't have it, and i was wondering if it was normal
[13:47] <PaRaD0xx> 12.04
[13:47] <Togusa> uhm i see
[13:48] <Togusa> thanks anyway =)
[13:48] <PaRaD0xx> I'm here for help, not to help :)  I mean, I know virtually nothing, so probably couldn't
[13:48] <PaRaD0xx> ;)
[13:48] <PaRaD0xx> trying to get print sharing enabled with winblows
[13:49] <Togusa> never tried to print stuff on linux
[13:49] <PaRaD0xx> my win boxes can see the ubuntu printer, but can't select it
[13:49] <PaRaD0xx> keep getting can't connect/invalid printer name
[13:49] <Togusa> is the printer shared from ubuntu?
[13:49] <PaRaD0xx> yes
[13:49] <Togusa> i know there's something inside /etc/samba/smb.conf
[13:50] <Togusa> but i never actually used it
[13:50] <DJones> Togusa: This probably doesn't help, just checked my 12.04 server and that doesn't have /etc/init.d/NetworkManager
[13:50] <PaRaD0xx> well, as I said, diabling the ufw helped...
[13:50] <Togusa> DJones: thanks!
[13:50] <PaRaD0xx> now windows machines can see the printer machine, and the printer itself...but get can't connect now
[13:50] <PaRaD0xx> so, getting closer, but still no dice
[13:51] <Togusa> 'cause i tried to install kde-full on it but the network applet keeps complainig about the network manager not running
[13:51] <PaRaD0xx> yeah, tried to edit the samba.conf...but not sure what to edit
[13:51] <Togusa> it's strange 'cause i remember i could start it manually in the past
[13:51] <PaRaD0xx> also, hate having ufw off
[13:51] <Togusa> if i had network-manager installed
[13:51] <Gregor_> Hello, I want to buy a Radeon HD 7850, will it be okay with any linux distro? Whats are better Nvidia OSS or ATI OSS driver?     Propitary Nvidia/OSS driver?
[13:52] <Togusa> can't connect?
[13:52] <Togusa> are you sure the ports are open?
[13:53] <Rory> Gregor_: I use a very similar card, and it works fine with Ubuntu, Mint, Arch and every other distro I've tried. The open-source Radeon driver is very good nowadays, and has improved recently in Linux kernel 3.12. This means even greater performance will be in the next version of Ubuntu
[13:53] <PaRaD0xx> Togusa no idea how to do that
[13:54] <Togusa> the only issue i have (unless Rory knows if they added support yet) with the opensource driver is that the GPU runs at its max frequency
[13:54] <Togusa> and i can't see the temps
[13:54] <hitsujiTMO> Rory: some of the radeon improvements are pushed back to 3.13
[13:54] <Togusa> PaRaD0xx: iptables --list?
[13:54] <Rory> hitsujiTMO: I've noticed fantastic real-world improvements from installing the 3.12-saucy mainline kernel
[13:54] <Gregor_> Rory: It will also be good with 13.10? I read recommends about Nvidia, but do you think radeon got more support than nvidia now?
[13:55] <ezra-s> Rory, define "fantastic improvements"
[13:55] <Rory> ezra-s: League of Legends in Wine goes above 30fps now consistantly; in fact usually above 60, so maybe an 80% performance improvement there. No wine or LoL update, and it goes back to slower if I use the old kernel
[13:56] <ezra-s> Rory, any specific configuration option in kernel config for that?
[13:56] <Rory> Gregor_: That's a very difficult question to answer. All I can tell you is my AMD Radeon 6970 works very well for my light gaming usage, as I just mentioned to ezra-s above
[13:56] <Gregor_> I got a older nvida gt4xx,   will working with a new Radeon (OSS drivers) be better than the old with propitary
[13:57] <PaRaD0xx> could that be my issue?  I need to open the printer port?
[13:57] <Rory> ezra-s: I'm not sure, I just installed the packaged mainline kernel from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-saucy/
[13:57] <Togusa> since there're so many people now, does anyboy know how to fix the "network manager not running" error i have on my DE? network-manager is installed but i can't start the service because /etc/init.d/NetworkManager is missing
[13:58] <ezra-s> Rory, I'm curious, just that, I read somewhere else that 3.12 would bring much better performance under certain conditions but I didn't read where specifically
[13:58] <lucido> does shotwell 0.13 imprt videos too?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> lucido, no.
[13:58] <hitsujiTMO> Togusa: is the network-manager service running?
[13:58] <lucido> cfhowlett, which version can?
[13:58] <Rory> Togusa: Can you try "sudo service network-manager start"
[13:58] <cfhowlett> lucido, version?  shotwell is for still photos not for video.
[13:59] <Togusa> let me try
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> Togusa: network manager is an upstart service btw, defined in /etc/init/network-manager.conf
[14:00] <cfhowlett> lucido, by any chance, did you mean "openshot" for videos?
[14:01] <bjensen82> I have made a nginx.conf file inside /etc/init with how to start restart etc nginx. However when I try to do initctl list |grep nginx I get the error "Unknown job: nginx" can somone pleasepoint me in right direction?
[14:01] <ezra-s> Togusa, /etc/init.d/network-manager linux is case-sensitive
[14:01] <lucido> cfhowlett, no, according to this it can, I just don't know from which version? http://www.yorba.org/shotwell/help/
[14:02] <Togusa> Rory, hitsujiTMO: yeah the service is running! weird
[14:02] <ezra-s> network-manager gets disabled in cases where you tweak /etc/network/interfaces
[14:02] <kognitiva_> Gief halp plxplx
[14:02] <bjensen82> sorry I mean the job isnt on the list, when I try to do start I get the above error: unknown job
[14:02] <Togusa> i thought the scripts were all inside there and since bash was not autocompleting service net* i thought the script was missing
[14:02] <kognitiva_> who's in charge here?
[14:02] <Togusa> thanks for the help guys
[14:02] <kognitiva_> I have a simple question on how to get ubuntu onto  a stick
[14:03] <kognitiva_> I have tried googling, just need someone to talk to
[14:03] <Rory> !usb | kognitiva_
[14:03] <kognitiva_> thats kinda sad
[14:03] <supziez> kognitiva_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[14:04] <Guest74202> hello, my name is MJ
[14:04] <cfhowlett> lucido, news to me.  I've only used shotwell for pics.  No video import on version 12.  No idea about higher version numbers.
[14:04] <ezra-s> Togusa, if you hit tab several times it will show all options that start with net, when there is more than one choice, first tab does not auto-complete
[14:04] <cfhowlett> Guest74202, do you have an ubuntu question
[14:04] <lucido> I see
[14:04] <Togusa> ezra-s: i know but it doesn't matter how many times i press it
[14:04] <Togusa> there's no network-manager
[14:05] <ezra-s> s/several times/twice
[14:05] <kognitiva_> which one gives me the nice menu with "try ubuntu" "install ubuntu" etc?
[14:05] <kognitiva_> thanks for links :)
[14:05] <Togusa> it only completes to "networking"
[14:05] <cfhowlett> lucido, you're right, the site clearly states video
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> ezra-s: Togusa bash_completion is not working for me either. must be a bug
[14:05] <ezra-s> Togusa, are you using ubuntu-desktop?
[14:05] <Togusa> no it's a command line install
[14:05] <Togusa> from the netinst ISO
[14:05] <lucido> I'm still on 12.04 I think
[14:05] <cfhowlett> kognitiva_, make a usb stick.  boot your computer with that stick.  "try" and "install" will be offered as options.
[14:06] <Guest74202> what do you do in Ubuntu?
[14:06] <Togusa> the autocompletion is working but not everything it seems
[14:07] <ezra-s> Togusa, then you need to install needed package: network-manager: /etc/init.d/network-manager
[14:07] <Rory> !ubuntu | Guest74202
[14:07] <kognitiva_> cfhowlett, thanks  :)
[14:07] <hitsujiTMO> Togusa, ezra-s just checked again, bash_completion is only working for system-v services, not upstart
[14:08] <Togusa> hitsujiTMO: that explains it then! thanks! :)
[14:08] <ezra-s> hitsujiTMO, bash_completion works for files and directory names as well as symlinks
[14:08] <ezra-s> forgive me If I'm missing something :P
[14:09] <Guest74202> what's the most interesting thing in Ubuntu?
[14:11] <guuest> help me please! I'm using Ubuntu desktop with LXDE. I upgraded it from 13.04 to 13.10. After update notify-send is broken. Desktop notifications aren't so beautiful than it was 13.04. Instead them, there are simple blue rectangles with the text
[14:12] <tnmind> Hello all, could anyone help me with an issue I am having with boot/efi failing to mount after upgrade to 13.10?
[14:12] <tnmind> Here is my boot summary file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6405180/
[14:15] <sandGorgon> does anyone know where I can download the "gnome-shell integration" plugin for firefox. I am using Firefox Aurora (alpha) and I'm unable to use extensions.gnome.org because of this missing extension
[14:17] <sergio__> Hello
[14:17] <sergio__> May I ask you a question?
[14:17] <daftykins> yes
[14:17] <sergio__> It's about the kernel
[14:18] <sergio__> Im trying to compile it
[14:18] <sergio__> But it's been like 3+ hours, and i think that its on an endless loop
[14:18] <sergio__> I think that terminal shows the same files on and on
[14:19] <sergio__> In fact, my free space is now 8 GB lower than it was before
[14:19] <sergio__> Which sounds rather excesive for a kernel
[14:20] <joshs> clam tk but keep getting that gui and antivirus engine are out dated, how do i update them?
[14:21] <glitsj16> sandGorgon: i believe doing a 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions' provides that, you'll need to restart firefox ofcourse
[14:21] <ObrienDave> joshs, sudo freshclam
[14:21] <joshs> i tried sudo freshclam but it didnt work
[14:21] <misterli> Okay.. ubuntu is not useable for me..  sensors shows: temp on PCI Adapter (Radeon-pci-0100) 118.0° and the pc get slower and slower and crash after that with the default drivers. ATI drivers does not work... :-/ Damn. I really starte dto love it
[14:23] <ObrienDave> joshs, might have to go to the website http://clamtk.sourceforge.net/
[14:23] <joshs> this is what it does
[14:23] <joshs> ERROR: /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log is locked by another process
[14:23] <joshs> ERROR: Problem with internal logger (UpdateLogFile = /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log).
[14:23] <sandGorgon> glitsj16, thanks!
[14:24] <CherryHillTony> I have 12.04, and I did have Skype, but I can't bring it up anymore!
[14:24] <glitsj16> sandGorgon: you're welcome, what should we be without extensions heh
[14:24] <ObrienDave> joshs, don't know about that problem
[14:25] <joshs> the website does no good either
[14:25] <philinux> joshs: are you chacking a win partition from ubuntu?
[14:26] <joshs> honestly, i am new to this and have no idea
[14:26] <cfhowlett> CherryHillTony, start skype from a terminal.  note any error messages
[14:26] <philinux> joshs: I dont have any av on ubuntu
[14:27] <joshs> i do run some stuff on wine
[14:27] <philinux> joshs: then it wont affect ubuntu
[14:28] <joshs> i would still like to know how to update clamtk
[14:28] <philinux> joshs: you only need av to check say a win partition on a dual boot etc
[14:28] <KaoticEvil> anyone know anything about dansguardian?
[14:28] <KaoticEvil> specifically, i want to set my main server box (also a torrent seedbox) up as a filter/proxy for my kids devices... but not filter my devices, or the server's access itself
[14:29] <Lexzuz> hello all
[14:29] <cfhowlett> Lexzuz, greetings
[14:29] <Lexzuz> haha can anyone guess what dist im on? xD
[14:29] <cfhowlett> Lexzuz, no.  do you have an ubuntu question?
[14:30] <joshs> it was all good until this morning. caught a virus here and there but took care of it easily. now its out of date and i can't update it
[14:30] <Lexzuz> yeah haha is it true that anonymous-OS is full of viruses?
[14:30] <cfhowlett> !ot|Lexzuz,
[14:31] <Lexzuz> anonymous-OS is made on ubuntu
[14:31] <Lexzuz> 10.11
[14:31] <cfhowlett> Lexzuz, made on but it is NOT ubuntu and not supported here.
[14:32] <Lexzuz> si this is a support channel only?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> Lexzuz, yes
[14:33] <bjensen82> I have setup nginx as a upstart task, however when I do a kill -9 on the nginx master process, it isnt spin up again by upstart. I have included respawn into the nginx.conf file. Start and stop works just fine
[14:34] <localg0d> hello everyone. I have a quick question. I have an assignment due in college and I'm trying to find someone from Liberia(WestAfrica)that would be able to answer some quick questions to help me finish that assignment.
[14:34] <localg0d> maybe if any of the ops are from that region or know a good website ?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> localg0d: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:42] <CherryHillTony> I'm new at terminal, what exactly do I type in it?
[14:42] <cfhowlett> CherryHillTony, type in skype
[14:43] <Terabyte> when I isntall apparmor,  apt-get install -y apparmor apparmor-profiles, running apparmor_status tells me apparmor module is not loaded. 12.04 64 bit LTS server.
[14:44] <CherryHillTony> ok i'll be back in a moment
[14:44] <dewdgang-frank> hello, real quick question: Every time I start my ubuntu from a VM and launch firefox it says that its already running. but its not. is there some kind of taskmanager to force quit any not responding firefox sessions that are in the background??
[14:44] <bjensen82> is it normal if I do kill -9 on a process being monitored by upstart, that it wont restart the process?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> dewdgang-frank, killall firefox should do it from the terminal. also, check the vm to verify you don't have ff set to autostart on login
[14:46] <CherryHillTony> Aborted (core dumped)
[14:46] <solars> hi, if I've got a windows installation (uefi) and want dualboot ubuntu, do I need to switch to legacy, or will this work with an uefi installation so I can select ubuntu and windows on boot?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> CherryHillTony: try renaming the Skype configuraion folder
[14:47] <tengelic> hello! what's the default permission of the / folder, please?
[14:47] <CherryHillTony> ?
[14:47] <Pici> tengelic: drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 Nov 29  2012 /
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> CherryHillTony: the skype config may be causeing issue, if you rename the folder then rerun you will get vanilla settings
[14:47] <tengelic> thanks, Pici!
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Pici: do you smell a chowner ;)
[14:48] <Pici> ActionParsnip: I hope not ;)
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Pici: what is the '22' in that output denoting?
[14:49] <cfhowlett> CherryHillTony, open your file manager. it should autopen your /home directory.  display hidden folders.  find .Skype.  select properties by right clicking on the folder.  rename it.  then start skype again.
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Pici: hmm, could be num of subdirs
[14:50] <tnmind> If anyone at all could assist with my boot/efi issue, I would very grateful. Details and logs are here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/375924/an-error-occured-while-mounting-boot-efi
[14:50] <Pici> ActionParsnip: number of 'links' to that path.  in this case, its because there are 21 subfolders.
[14:50] <Pici> ActionParsnip: hardlinks, I *think*
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Pici: makes sense, thanks :)
[14:53] <oaulakh> anyone know about good ubuntu themes?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> !theme
[14:55] <Togusa> guys, a question
[14:56] <oaulakh> like how to rotate diffrent screen in ubuntu?
[14:56] <Togusa> does ufw manage its own configuration regardless of what you set using iptables directly? i.e.: if you modify the rules and then you reboot
[14:56] <Togusa> shouldn't ufw restore its own rules
[14:56] <Togusa> and discard the manual changes?
[14:56] <jpds> Togusa: It does.
[14:56] <PaRaD0xxR> o, I didn't reboot
[14:57] <Sidewinder> In which directory are the default screensaver pictures located {12.04}? TIA.
[14:57] <Togusa> thanks, just wanted confirmation! :)
[14:59] <oaulakh> anyone know about necopost themes?
[15:00] <np8> Does anyone know how to sync (once) a one-way sync from ubuntu one sevice? I accidentally deleted the files from my computer and would like to get them back
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> np8: use your backups. You make backups right?
[15:01] <np8> ActionParsnip: Backups?
[15:01] <cfhowlett> :)
[15:01] <np8> I have all backup'ed in the ubuntu one cloud :)
[15:01] <oaulakh> anyone know about necopost themes, how they guys make it working in linux?
[15:02] <cfhowlett> !patience|oaulakh,
[15:03] <np8> But seriously, cant i just download a zip from the ubuntu one cloud?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> np8: yes, to a usb disk etc.
[15:03] <np8> ActionParsnip: I seriously should.
[15:04] <WeinribZ> hi
[15:04] <CherryHillTony> I've  just found out that because of an update, it wont work on my version anymore!
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> np8: people love learning the hard way
[15:05] <uczen16> hi
[15:05] <jmgk> hey
[15:05] <uczen16> how i can turn out a line?
[15:05] <uczen16> in terminal?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> uczen16: how do you mean 'turn out a line'?
[15:06] <np8> ActionParsnip: But i have the files still in the ubuntu one cloud, and i can download them "one by one". Theres still like hundreds of folders and thousands of files. It would take me ages to download them all and make the directories. Isn't there any easier ways to download them all at once?
[15:07] <pandamaster> I'm having issues with my computer
[15:07] <pandamaster> wireless card
[15:08] <donnib> hi, i have a problem with running apt-get upgrade i get http://pastebin.com/2YpxfeJj
[15:09] <Sidewinder> pandamaster, I'm no wireless expert but others may be better able to help you if you listed error messages, or other info about what is/is not happening.
[15:09] <Touhou11> pandamaster: Anything useful by running dmesg?
[15:10] <ciampix> hi all. I have a ubuntu 13.10 (I am an experienced user) amd64. It hangs for a while, some seconds to a minute or so. If I ctrl-alt-f1 and then ctrl-alt-canc it reboot instantly ... how can I check what is blocking?
[15:11] <pandamaster> when I click on the network button, I only shows wired potions, and doesn't notice that I have a wireless card.
[15:12] <Sidewinder> pandamaster, Have you tried unplugging your wired network cables and rebooting?
[15:12] <pandamaster> edit: when I click on the network button, it only shows the wired network auto etho0.
[15:12] <pandamaster> I've reboot multiple times
[15:12] <ciampix> pandamaster: laptop? Check first to have enabled the wireless card ... sometimes it is a blue key "Fn" + some function key...
[15:13] <Sidewinder> With the cables unplugged?
[15:13] <pandamaster> my computer has a wireless button, does that help?
[15:13] <alnkpa2> ciampix: in the terminal you get by ctrl-alt-f1 login and try "top"
[15:13] <alnkpa2> ciampix: without the "
[15:13] <jaami_> how to restart vino server?
[15:14] <ucz15> can anyone help me with terminal command?
[15:14] <ciampix> alnkpa2: if I do it I see only active tasks (cpu100%), not hanging tasks...
[15:14] <pandamaster> sorry, xchat closed for no reason.
[15:15] <numer_0> a
[15:15] <alnkpa2> ciampix: well, the "hanging" tasks should be active
[15:15] <pandamaster> I do have a blue functon key
[15:15] <ucz15> hi, can anyone help me with terminal command?
[15:15] <jaami_> please let me know the command to restart vino server
[15:15] <ciampix> pandamaster: then see if you find a function key with an antenna icon...
[15:15] <DJones> !details | ucz15
[15:16] <ucz15> i need to show lines
[15:16] <ucz15> i type cat passwd|nl|
[15:16] <pandamaster> I see that in the upper right corner of my keyboard
[15:16] <Sidewinder> Anyone know in which directory the default screensaver pictures are stored?
[15:17] <alnkpa2> ucz15: what kind of output do you want to see?
[15:17] <jaami_> do ypu ppl get this msg?
[15:17] <ucz15> and i need to see them in line 7,6,5
[15:17] <ucz15> not in 5,6,7
[15:18] <ciampix> pandamaster: ok if you press fn+function_key_with_antenna_icon and wait some minutes happens something?
[15:18] <ucz15> i type cat passwd|nl| head -7| tail -3
[15:18] <alnkpa2> ucz15: so you want the lines in reverse order?
[15:18] <ucz15> and it shows me 5,6,7 lines
[15:18] <ucz15> yes!
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> ucz15: cat -n /etc/passwd | head -n 7 | tail -n 3 | tac
[15:19] <pandamaster> the wireless key would glow blue when I was running windows, but now it doesn't do anything
[15:19] <x0011BF> I'm trying to resize (expand) my system partition, but GParted has the resize option greyed out. Is there something specific I need to do to allow that? There's a bunch of unallocated space right next to it.
[15:19] <ucz15> ok necermind, i got it!  thanks !
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> pandamaster: does the keyboard work?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> ucz15: you 'got it' by me telling you
[15:20] <pandamaster> yes, very well, and all of the function shortcuts too.  Including the media controls on top of the computer
[15:20] <ciampix> pandamaster: ok see if you need some proprietary drivers in the system setup...
[15:20] <alnkpa2> x0011BF: you would need to unmount the partition
[15:20] <Touhou11> x0011BF: Probably because you have it mounted. Try from a LiveCD
[15:21] <x0011BF> Hrm
[15:21] <x0011BF> It's a virtualbox.
[15:21] <ciampix> pandamaster: which version of *buntu do you have?
[15:21] <x0011BF> Oh, I guess I can do that anyway.
[15:21] <x0011BF> Right.
[15:21] <alnkpa2> x0011BF: best way would be to use the a livecd
[15:21] <x0011BF> Forgot that disk images exist.
[15:21] <pandamaster> okey I checked I do need to install a driver
[15:21] <x0011BF> Thanks alnkpa2 and Touhou11
[15:21] <pandamaster> ubuntu 11.04
[15:21] <ciampix> pandamaster: :-)
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> pandamaster: natty is eol
[15:22] <ciampix> pandamaster: ... then why not upgrade to al least 12.04?
[15:22] <pandamaster> my computer is too old to run 12.04
[15:23] <ciampix> pandamaster: system requirements of 11.04 and 12.04 are the same...
[15:23] <pandamaster> that's strange, I've had no issues with it when compared to 12.04...?
[15:24] <ciampix> pandamaster: ... and I doubt that you will be able to install proper wireless drivers to a version with repository that do not respond anymore...
[15:25] <pandamaster> I checked the forums, and I can proably install the drivers through the terminal
[15:25] <Guest14619> hello
[15:25] <n00k13> hi
[15:27] <ciampix> pandamaster: ... low on resurces? Try lubuntu! it is even quicker than 11.04 and there is a nice 13.10 version out there ... ;-)
[15:27] <ciampix> pandamaster: from lubuntu.org ...
[15:27] <pandamaster> I checked the forums again, and found a command that will determine what components I am using
[15:28] <arkie> hey for some reason i cant install nokogiri
[15:28] <Guest14619> anyone know how to use a good music downloader?
[15:28] <cpined> Morning, when  I launch Remmina to connect to a remote ubuntu box I get the login screen then I get the connection box and that's it.  I see that the login was good but nothing else happens, I do see a button at the bottom right hand corner but my mouse is'nt able to click it, it is frozen.
[15:29] <pandamaster> I checked the button again, and it said that my wireless card isn't ready yet.
[15:29] <arkie> i try sudo apt-get install nokogiri and it says E : Unable to locate package nokogiri
[15:29] <Guest14619> i used to use bearshare when i used windows.  So i'm fairly new to this linux/ubuntu stuff
[15:29] <ciampix> pandamaster: ... I have to insist: one of the reasons for which Linux is more secure than Windows is that there are more frequent updates ... please update to a more modern version!
[15:29] <arkie> If I do gem install nokogiri I get ERROR: While executing gem ... (Gem::FilePermissionError) You don't have write permissions into the usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8 directory
[15:30] <auronandace> !list | Guest14619
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest14619: www.clearbits.net   then use Transmission
[15:30] <pandamaster> it says something about an x86 thing being requred, and then my computer shuts down
[15:31] <ciampix> pandamaster: ... open a terminal and type: dmesg|grep firmware ... if you see something it is really easier to update to a modern ubuntu/lubuntu...
[15:32] <ciampix> pandamaster:  ... I have to go now ... bye!
[15:32] <lomandv> ubuntu studio不能使用ubuntu one了
[15:32] <pandamaster> a punch of numbers and letters talking about different computer stuff pops up
[15:34] <cpined> hello, anyone know why it takes up to a minute to get the password prompt when I ssh to a ubuntu box on my local network?  And then after entering the password it takes a long time to get on the box?
[15:35] <ciampix> pandamaster: ok your wireless is lacking a "firmware" that is a piece of proprietary software that the wireless card needs to work. Proprietary drivers have a copy of it inside and since your ubuntu is old you have no choice other than update and than install proprietary drivers for wireless.
[15:39] <joossee> hey is adamk around?
[15:43] <joossee> does anyone have a few minutes to help me troubleshoot fglrx driver issue? card is ATI FireMV2250 on ubuntu 12.04 64. basically, i just cant get it to work :(
[15:43] <joossee> HOWEVER: there is a fix, as I had the card working but 24 short hours ago
[15:43] <joossee> if i could turn back time... if i could find a waaaay
[15:43] <oaulakh> sci-fi themes like iron man movie have?
[15:43] <logikos> hi, i have a ubuntu LAMP server with apache2 and i have alot of experience with WHM/cPanel
[15:44] <logikos> without WHM/cPanel what is the best way to create a new web user
[15:44] <logikos> is there a good tutorial out there that you know of?
[15:44] <jaami> i lost connection
[15:44] <logikos> i've googled it and tryed to do some reading but nothing seems to answer the question really
[15:44] <logikos> so far
[15:45] <jaami> i forgot the nick wh was asking me about uni
[15:45] <jaami> who***
[15:46] <bean> logikos: you'd have to do a lot of it manually. Add the user, add them a vhost for apache, etc.
[15:47] <logikos> bean: i realize this, but i was hopeing there was a tutorial to walk me threw the steps to do it manualy
[15:47] <logikos> so that its less likely i screw something up
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: there's no "best" way to do such a thing. it's really dependent on your needs. WHM/cPanal simply have their way of doing things, but one of the main questions you have to ask are what the restrictions you want to place onn the individual users
[15:48] <logikos> hitsujiTMO: i mention cPanel just becuase that is how i've always done it, but now i'm working for a company with an in-house server running an application that is used in house, not public and they dont have cpanel
[15:48] <logikos> they created there primary site in /var/www/ which i think is really stupid
[15:49] <logikos> as in my experience everything should be under a specific user
[15:49] <logikos> so i want to create a user, and move that site to the users own public_html dir
[15:49] <logikos> i can create the user and i can cp the files and chown them all
[15:49] <logikos> then figure out where the vhosts are defined and point it to the right place
[15:49] <logikos> i know these are steps and i understand them (kinda)
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: that's a really bad way of doing it actually
[15:50] <logikos> but a step by step tutorial to make sure i dont miss anything would be helpful
[15:50] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: +1
[15:50] <logikos> hitsujiTMO: you have my attention
[15:50] <logikos> why is it bad?
[15:50] <logikos> i ask to learn, not to challenge
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: because the users then have to access the same 1 account. you have no audit trail, no restrictions, no nothing
[15:51] <logikos> 'users' ? the 'users' useing the current site do not have an account on the server, they have a username and password to the site, manauged by php
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: you want your sites under a group folder. not a user folder.
[15:52] <logikos> ok
[15:52] <logikos> where are group folders kept
[15:52] <logikos> so you would have permissions be 775 and 664 instead of 755 and 644
[15:52] <logikos> ?
[15:52] <logikos> i have little experience with groups
[15:52] <logikos> little to no experience
[15:53] <logikos> there are only 2 people (presently) who need ssh or ftp access to these files
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: where every you like. you can use /var/www as a group folder. or /srv/www .
[15:53] <vegombrei> logikos: hi how you doing?
[15:53] <Nach0z> I heard that the WUBI installer was done away with a few versions ago, someone confirm?
[15:54] <realman9994> whos
[15:54] <logikos> hitsujiTMO: my main reason for sugesting we move i tot a user folder is to get it out of /var/www/ because we are useing bitbucket and when we do a pull to /var/www ther eis a mix of permisions
[15:54] <logikos> different files are owned by different people
[15:54] <logikos> files created by php are owned by apache
[15:54] <logikos> files pulled are owned by the puller
[15:54] <logikos> php cant write to those files
[15:54] <logikos> its iritating
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: first questions: how many users need access to the server. how many users would work on a sigle site. and should a user have read/write access to a site he's not working on?
[15:55] <gordonjcp> logikos: you need to look at standard deployment techniques
[15:55] <logikos> 3 users have ssh access to the server, all 3 are sudo root
[15:55] <logikos> 2 users work on the site
[15:55] <Eugene_mac> Hello everyone! I have a mac-related problem described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186000 . Can anyone bother him/herself helping me with that?
[15:55] <arkie> im having trouble upgrading from ruby 1.8.7 to 1.9.2
[15:55] <logikos> both users with there own repos for testing, there repos are in seperate locations owned and grouped to there user
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: so its just 1 site on the server?
[15:55] <cpined> Morning, when  I launch Remmina to connect to a remote ubuntu box I get the login screen then I get the connection box and that's it.  I see that the login was good but nothing else happens, I do see a button at the bottom right hand corner but my mouse is'nt able to click it, it is frozen.  Can anyone please help?
[15:56] <logikos> vegombrei: hi, wasnt ignoring you, just tryin to figure something out
[15:56] <cpined> hello, anyone know why it takes up to a minute to get the password prompt when I ssh to a ubuntu box on my local network?  And then after entering the password it takes a long time to get on the box?  Can anyone please help?
[15:56] <logikos> gordonjcp: i'd love to.... i'm used to being the only developer ... lol
[15:56] <logikos> hitsujiTMO: right now, yes .. in the future .. who knows .. that is another reason why i thought we should move from /var/www and create a user for this site, incase we want another site later
[15:57] <vegombrei> logikos: how does one scan repositories to see if they have particular software??
[15:57] <logikos> but my thinking is wrong, please correct me, i wana do it right
[15:57]  * realman9994
[15:57]  * realman9994
[15:57] <FloodBot1> realman9994: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <Ari-Yang> I've heard about installing packages from newer ubuntu versions on old ones.... Is it okay to install Raring (13.04) .deb on Quantal (12.10)?
[15:57] <vegombrei> is there a corel draw x6 equavalant software in ubuntu??
[15:58] <logikos> vegombrei: not sure what your asking, right now there is one repo on bitbucket, 2 users have access, each user pulls that repo to ther eown user dir to develop and test, then they add, commit, and push back to the bitbucket repo
[15:58] <logikos> then from the production location we pull
[15:58] <logikos> i'm new to bitbucket and repos etc, been useing it now for the past 3 weeks
[15:58]  * realman9994
[15:58] <logikos> this is the first i've had to work with other developers
[15:58] <logikos> used to being a sola act
[15:58] <logikos> solo
[15:58] <logikos> so i'm learning
[16:00] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: i'm gonna do a small description for you on a very simple setup on pastebin. there's a bit too much be writing it to the main chat
[16:03]  * realman9994
[16:06] <linux> nnn
[16:06] <linux> mmm
[16:06] <linux> m
[16:06] <linux> mmmm..
[16:06] <linux> mmm,,
[16:06] <joossee> hey guys, I keep getting an error on login "Sorry the application amdcccle has closed unexpectedly". Details points to the amdcccle binary... ?
[16:06] <FloodBot1> linux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:06] <linux> mmm..
[16:06] <linux> m...
[16:07] <logikos> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[16:11] <np8> I must have messed up my partitioning system. The very first recovering steps are usually "sudo mount /dev/sdaX /mnt" and "sudo chroot /mnt". However, the latter command gives "chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory"-error. What should i do_
[16:11] <Rory> np8: Did "sudo mount /dev/sdXN /mnt" give an error?
[16:12] <np8> nope
[16:12] <Rory> np8: Can you please run the command "mount" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:12] <np8> ok
[16:13] <np8> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406068/
[16:13] <Rory> np8: Also what are you trying to do overall?
[16:16] <np8> Rory: 1) I Installed Ubuntu 13.10, with partitions for root, home and swap.  2) I had to do some alterning in the fstab to get the right folders to be mapped to /home. 3) I did "sudo mount -a" to see that it is working. 4) I tried to go on my windows 7 partition, but it would not open it, since it was "hibernated"
[16:19] <np8> 5) Tried to mount the windows 7 partition with sudo and read only > got the same kind of errors when trying to mount. 6) Tried to reboot on windows. Did not succeed. It jammed on black screen and blinking white line. 7) forced reboot, again same problem. 8) Tried to reboot on windows 7 recovery partition. Got red ERROR -word with font size 300. It said that could not open file C:/RECOVER.DAT
[16:20] <orbisvicis> how do I remove a broken package ?
[16:20] <orbisvicis> (apt-get refuses to do anything)
[16:21] <np8> 9) Tried to reboot on ubuntu. Got some error with had something to do with grub. And it did not start ubuntu, just a command-line likey thing. 10) Booted with Live-CD and now i want to reinstall grub to get my ubuntu and my partitions working..
[16:21] <ResQue> anyone know a good syslog server and log viewer that will run on linux and windows?
[16:22] <ResQue> i would prefer opensource
[16:22] <cristian_c> Hi
[16:22] <cristian_c> I've installed bustle
[16:22] <cristian_c> After I've launched it, I've got this message: 'No diagram loaded' 'Having saved the output of bustle-dbus-monitor' to a file , open that file to see a sequence diagram of D-Bus activity.'
[16:23] <cristian_c> How I solve this?
[16:23] <np8> Rory: I guess it has something to do with the editing of the fstab -file. Funny thing is that "sudo mount -a" gave no errors. The errors came in when i tried to reboot ubuntu. I guess this has nothing to do with the windows.
[16:23] <franco65> ciao
[16:23] <franco65> !list
[16:24] <franco65> !list
[16:24] <franco65> !list
[16:27] <jailbot> jailbot
[16:28] <cristian_c> I've also installed graphviz
[16:28] <np8> Rory: I found the reason for the error, it is because the /dev/sda5 i mounted did not contain bin/sh, as it should.
[16:28] <cristian_c> But nothing has changed :(
[16:28] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: here's a really simple setup to gove you an idea http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406130/
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, seems paste.ubuntu.com sucks for word wrapping :P
[16:30] <Nach0z> lol
[16:30] <np8> I am really in a deep trouble now then. The other "partition" contains swap but it still looks to be like >100Gt
[16:30] <logikos> hitsujiTMO: ty, reading
[16:31] <np8> so my ubuntu partition has somehow 'merged' with my swap partition..
[16:32] <np8> and i cannot edit the fstab - file since it is inside the 'merged' partion.
[16:32] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: it should give you an idea of what bits to start looking into. things like g+s flag, etc
[16:32] <Rory> !grub | np8 try following the first link here if you aren't already
[16:32] <joossee> where is the brug config file located?
[16:32] <joossee> grub
[16:32] <np8> How can i burn a CD with live CD ubuntu? is it possible?
[16:33] <wheatthin> np8, do you have multiple burners/roms?
[16:33] <np8> nope..
[16:33] <wheatthin> np8, how about a flash drive?
[16:34] <np8> But i have a mobile phone. (android). and luckily the only partition which shows up has all the important stuff
[16:34] <np8> wheatthin: yes
[16:34] <wheatthin> one that can be formatted?
[16:34] <np8> wheatthin: mobile phone == flash drive?
[16:35] <wheatthin> np8, no, it has to be like a jump drive
[16:35] <np8> well. maybe and usb stick somewhere.
[16:35] <np8> an"
[16:35] <wheatthin> np8, I'd use that, and use dd to copy the iso image to the jump drive, then boot from the jump drive
[16:37] <rian> bnb
[16:37] <logikos> hitsujiTMO: i'm used to useing chmod with bits rather than the flags so chmod g+ws doesnt make much sence to me ... i'm used to and understand 755 (rwxr-xr-x) or 644 (rw-r--r--)  or 777 (rwxrwxrwx) looking at chmod g+ws ... i assume that adds 'w' to the group chaning 644 to 664 or 755 to 775 ?
[16:37] <wheatthin> logikos, it just means you're setting permission at group level
[16:40] <joossee> guys i noticed i am running and fglrx 13.2 beta. Is there a way to revert to an earlier version of fglrx?
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> logikos: g+w  gives group writing permission. so turns 644 to 664. the g+s is a setgid bit so that any file or folder retains created in that folder retains the parents group rather than the creators group. http://www.linuxnix.com/2011/12/sgid-set-sgid-linuxunix.html   this might be better at explaining
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> ignore that first retains
[16:42] <geirha> logikos: If you want to learn more about unix permissions, I recommend  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions
[16:43] <Rory> np8 and everyone generally: If your Android phone is rooted there's a cool app that lets you boot your PC from just an iso as if it were a bootable flash drive. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.softwarebakery.drivedroid
[16:43] <Rory> I find it saves time if you boot from images a lot
[16:44] <Rory> Probably not worth rooting your phone just for that though, so procede as usual if that doesn't apply to you
[16:44] <np8> Rory: Ok thanks :)
[16:44] <Rory> joossee: You can switch between them in the Additional Drivers tool
[16:45] <joossee> Rory, additional drivers has never shown anything...?
[16:45] <Rory> joossee: How did you install the 13.2 driver?
[16:45] <joossee> Rory, i think i erroneously added the update repo or some other bogus repo...?
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> joossee xorg edgers?
[16:46] <Rory> joossee: Could you please put on http://paste.ubuntu.com the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[16:46] <cpined> Hello, I have a Remmina problem.
[16:46] <joossee> right away
[16:46] <Rory> cpined: Go ahead and ask
[16:46] <jaatrox> hey guys
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: the easiest way to swap down is prob with ppa-purge
[16:48] <Rory> joossee: You could try first "sudo apt-get --purge remove fglrx fglrx-updates"
[16:48] <joossee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406225/
[16:48] <Rory> joossee: Yes I see xorg-edgers in there
[16:48] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, Rory yes thats what the forums seemed to indicate. I should try that now? my ppa's are on the pastbinb above
[16:49] <Rory> joossee: sudo apt-get -y install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers/ppa
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | joossee
[16:50] <joossee> Rory, ok done. few errors about not being able to find package for "xorg-edgers/p ppa"
[16:50] <helmut_> hi
[16:50] <Rory> joossee: Did you mis-type
[16:50] <Rory> joossee: Copy and paste my command exactly. To paste to a terminal use ctrl-shift-V
[16:50] <DrDittersdorf> Hi guys. I used this guide to share my virtual machine with host http://superuser.com/questions/258026/using-samba-to-share-a-folder-from-a-linux-guest-with-a-windows-host-in-virtualb . but I don't have WRITE permissions. What do i do wrong?
[16:50] <joossee> miss cutted and pasted. xchat a little wonky my bad
[16:51] <joossee> hrmmm still same error
[16:51] <joossee> sudo apt-get -y install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers/ppa
[16:51] <Rory> joossee: Could you pastebin the command you ran and the full output? To copy from a terminal use ctrl-shift-C
[16:52] <cristian_c> Another question
[16:52] <joossee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406242/
[16:52] <cristian_c> How can I disable the mysql auto-load?
[16:53] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[16:53] <wheatthin>  autoload?
[16:53] <cristian_c> wheatthin, yes
[16:53] <wheatthin> you mean from upstart?
[16:53] <cristian_c> wheatthin, when the system boots, mysql is loaded
[16:54] <wheatthin> cristian_c, sudo update-rc.d mysql disable
[16:54] <Rory> joossee: try sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers
[16:54] <cristian_c> wheatthin, ok
[16:54] <Rory> joossee: I'm not completely up on the syntax so I think I made a mistake the first time
[16:54] <logikos> hitsujiTMO, geirha: ty, will read up
[16:54] <logikos> ty for the resources
[16:55] <joossee> Rory, same error as last lines of pastebin
[16:55] <logikos> i understand the binary of rwx rwx rwx
[16:55] <logikos> wasnt sure how +s played in ..
[16:56] <lucido> how come my X doesn't start with the resolution I defined in my xorg.conf?
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: is xorg-edgers source in /etc/apt/sources.list ? or in a seperate file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> lucido: check in /var/log/xorg.0.log
[16:56] <wheatthin> lucido, cause it's dynamically set
[16:56] <nicexe> I am on 9.04. I have some unallocated space on a USB flash drive of mine. How can I add a partition if I don't know the user's password? (in other words I need to create a partition to some unallocated space as not root)
[16:56] <cristian_c> wheatthin, update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/mysql missing LSB information      update-rc.d: see <http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts>    System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/mysql do not exist.
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> nicexe: Jaunty is dead and gone (thankfully)
[16:56] <Rory> joossee: OK we will do it manually. Can you please pastebin "ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[16:57] <wheatthin> cristian_c, sorry, can try   sudo service mysql disable
[16:57] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, Rory oh yes i see it there as a .list file?
[16:57] <joossee> also a xubuntu one
[16:58] <lucido> ActionParsnip, wheatthin , it shouldn't be dinamically set if there is a definition in xorg.conf (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406251/). Here's my X log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406249/  First it recognizes the modeline and validates it but then it says it changes it to "NULL"
[16:58] <nicexe> ActionParsnip: Well I can't upgrade because even if I leave the password textbox blank (which is my password) it is still not accepted
[16:58] <nicexe> also I am not doing a clean install
[16:58] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, does not appear in sources.list
[16:58] <cristian_c> wheatthin, Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service mysql disable     The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, but disable is not supported for Upstart jobs.
[16:59] <wheatthin> lucido, yes, unless it's being overwritten once again by another resource
[16:59] <computerguy> is there any command in ubuntu linux to install cisco packet tracer?
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: that's ok then. you used apt-add-repository then. so ppa-purge "should" work
[16:59] <joossee> xubuntu-dev-xfce-4_12-precise.list
[17:00] <geirha> joossee, Rory: only files ending with *.list inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ are used, so   tail -n+1 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list}   would yield a more correct output
[17:00] <computerguy> anyone tell what command works for installing packet tracer?
[17:00] <Rory> joossee: You could remove the xorg-edgers repository and then run this script to identify all the packages it installed
[17:00] <Rory> joossee: for p in $(dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | cut -f1); do apt-cache madison $p | grep edgers; done
[17:00] <lucido> wheatthin, something's wrong because if I don't have an xorg.conf, then it starts with 1024x768 and if I have then it says in the log that it also starts with 1024x768 but my lcd tv cant diplay it in that case
[17:00] <Rory> Sorry if there's a massively better way
[17:00] <nicexe> I am on 9.04. The system spams at me at every opportunity to upgrade. I can't do it because when I leave the password blank the window just closes. (my password is blank)
[17:01] <joossee> Rory, ok so i paste that intoa .sh file and run it?
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[17:01] <Rory> nicexe: You could change your password, your password can't be blank
[17:01] <adamk> lucido: Pasatebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[17:01] <Rory> joossee: No, just paste it in the terminal, it will tell you what packages came from that repository
[17:02] <joossee> oh hitsujiTMO 's way seems to be doing something
[17:02] <Rory> OK great
[17:02] <lucido> adamk, xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406251/  Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406249/
[17:02] <joossee> ...
[17:03] <lucido> and I already upgraded to a modern graphics card
[17:03] <joossee> oh there we go. disabling the ppa and now downloading a bunch of stuffs? hitsujiTMO ?
[17:03] <Snake2k> Hello everyone, I just installed windows 7 on a separate primary partition of my drive, now im in windows but I don't get the grub selection at boot anymore, it just boots straight into windows.
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: it should be bringing you back to whats in the repo
[17:03] <Snake2k> Anyone know how i can fix that?
[17:03] <joossee> oh ok great
[17:04] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, and Rory so once this completes i should reinstal fglrx with "sudo apt-get install fglrx"?
[17:04] <Rory> !grub | Snake2k first link here
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> Snake2k: run this from a live cd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:04] <adamk> lucido: Sorry, I'm really not familiar with how th envidia driver does things. I'm surprised, though, that the nvidia GUI config program doesn't have an option to select a resolution and have it use it by default.
[17:04] <Snake2k> Thanks Rory & hitsujiTMO
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: this should install the fglrx in the repo
[17:05] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, roger that. i will reboot when completed and report back.
[17:05] <joossee> oh boy
[17:05] <lucido> adamk, yes, prolem is that X sets modes two time, see log lines: 218 and 334
[17:06] <Guest194> Hi, I cannot install wine on Xubuntu 13.10 Live CD: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: wine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu7) but it is not installable"
[17:06] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, Rory got a crash notice "a problem occured while installing software" package fglrx
[17:06] <Rory> joossee: Could you pastebin the full output?
[17:06] <cristian_c> wheatthin, How can I solve?
[17:06] <joossee> Rory, its not text?
[17:06] <Rory> joossee: Where are you seeing it?
[17:07] <Rory> Guest194: Could you run from a terminal: "sudo apt-get install wine1.4" and put the full output on http://paste.ubuntu.com - to copy and paste from a terminal use ctrl-shift-C
[17:07] <joossee> in a crash report window in unity Rory
[17:07] <lucido> adamk, it does have but I think that is for the session and not the display manager screen
[17:07] <wheatthin> cristian_c, I had already suggested   'sudo service mysql disable'   without quotes
[17:08] <joossee> rory error is "fglrx 2:8.960-0ubuntu1.1: fglrx kernel module failed to build
[17:08] <cpined> hello, can someone help me with a ssh question?
[17:08] <adamk> lucido: Sorry, I really don't know what would be doing this.  With open source drivers, you'd create a modeline (as you did) and use the PrefferedMode option in the appropriate Monitor section.
[17:08] <cristian_c> wheatthin, but I've not tried with quotes
[17:08] <cristian_c> without quotes
[17:08] <Guest194> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406313/
[17:09] <Rory> joossee: You should "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --purge remove fglrx fglrx-updates" and then "sudo apt-get install fglrx"
[17:09] <cristian_c> wheatthin, and I get that error message
[17:09] <cristian_c> :(
[17:09] <lucido> adamk, hm I'll try a PrefferedModeoption
[17:09] <Rory> Guest194: Can you now run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[17:10] <Guest194> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406320/
[17:10] <Rory> Guest194: Did you already run sudo apt-get update?
[17:11] <cristian_c> wheatthin, any other ideas?
[17:11] <Guest194> Rory: done, I get the same output
[17:11] <joossee> Rory, ok done seemed to have reinstalled with no errors in console but crash report persists. i believe there is a bug in crash reporting where it may report old errors. rebboting and coming back
[17:13] <Guest194> This is my apt-cache policy wine1.4: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406331/
[17:13] <Rory> Guest194: Try sudo apt-get install wine --no-install-recommends
[17:13] <wheatthin> cristian_c, http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/recommended-way-to-enable-disable-services
[17:14] <Guest194> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406340/
[17:15] <Rory> Guest194: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[17:16] <joossee> Rory, hitsujiTMO success. thanks guys!
[17:16] <Rory> !yay
[17:16] <cristian_c> wheatthin, done
[17:18] <wheatthin> congrats
[17:18] <cristian_c> wheatthin, when I reboot, I can check if the command has worked
[17:19]  * joossee is back in all his dual screen glory!
[17:20] <joossee> now the way that I got into this mess was trying to fix a very slow dash home button in unity. Is there any fixes for this? Can I replace it with something else like a start button or just speed it up? it worked well with the open vesa drivers but no good with fglrx ...?
[17:21] <Guest194> Rory: works, thanks. But that-s strange because I can not find the reference to dpkg --add-architecture in the Ubuntu community wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[17:21] <joossee> ive done a lot of reading on the forums but that only lead to me replacing fglrx with some wonky versions
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> joossee: could switch to Gnome shell :)
[17:21] <joossee> ActionParsnip, i would like that very much!
[17:21] <joossee> ActionParsnip, i had a bad experience trying lxde
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> joossee: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> joossee: log off and choose the new session in the login screen befor eyou log on
[17:22] <joossee> ActionParsnip, and then pick it from the lgoin drop down? i will be able to come back to unity if i panic right?
[17:22] <joossee> woot
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> joossee: sure, you can have as many desktops and shells installed as you desire
[17:23] <joossee> oohh only 71megs
[17:23] <deezed> hey, what do you guys think is the best backup software if I'm using kde?
[17:23] <pirret> tar
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[17:24] <joossee> lol
[17:24] <Rory> deezed: Doesn't Kubuntu come with a backup tool anyway?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> probably kbackup or similar
[17:25] <deezed> Rory: I was wondering that. didnt find any
[17:25] <zoggg> hey, anyone want to buy a brand new never opened 4gb ram stick?
[17:25] <zoggg> i have no need for it
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> deezed: search the k menu fr the word backup, see what comes up
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> zoggg: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:26] <zoggg> thats not offtopic
[17:26] <zoggg> every ubuntu machine runs on RAM
[17:26] <deezed> ActionParsnip: I did, there was nothing. anyway I'm just gonna try the kbackup, installing it from synaptics
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> deezed: that was a guess :)
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> deezed: we use backula here where I work :)
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> deezed: myself, I use rsync from file server to USB drive
[17:28] <Rory> What's that image viewer that has simple tools built in like cropping and flipping?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Rory: gthumb ?
[17:29] <deezed> ActionParsnip: uhm.. I actually did many backups 2 years ago. But I would apreciate if I find something with great sync properties.
[17:29] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Ah yes you were right, it was hidden under a sidebar
[17:32] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.  When I # sort file.txt > file.txt why does it obliterate the file and not repace it with sorted text?
[17:33] <zykotick9> JokesOnYou77: 1) why are you root and 2) just use a different filename instead of trying to overwrite the originoal
[17:33] <lucido> how can I change the login screen resolution and is there any advantage in using nvidia-331 over nvidia-304?
[17:33] <zykotick9> lucido: any nvidia driver over 310 would be a benefit (that's when Steam/Nvidia/Ubuntu started working together)
[17:34] <lucido> zykotick9, what would be the benefit?
[17:34] <zykotick9> lucido: better performance in 3D
[17:34] <JokesOnYou77> zykotick9: I'm running one of my servers as root as a dev testing environment.  And I know how to get around it.  I'm trying to igure out why it's not working in the first place.  I thought > would redirect stdout to the file?  But that doesn't seem to be happening...
[17:35] <zykotick9> JokesOnYou77: your asking your input and output to be the same... this is a problem
[17:36] <eric_30> hey! anyone who can help me get my wireless up and going with ubuntu server?
[17:36] <JokesOnYou77> zykotick9: Ok.  So I can't use the same file as input and output stream?
[17:36] <JokesOnYou77> zykotick9: bummer. But thank you
[17:36] <zykotick9> JokesOnYou77: not ususally, and not in this case.
[17:37] <abradley> I've changed my password with passwd and it says "changed successfully" but when restart putty and ssh back in it still requires old password. restart of ubu doesn't fix
[17:41] <testpil0t> abradley, can you somehow paste the output ?
[17:41] <cpined> can anyone please help me with a simple ssh question?
[17:41] <testpil0t> usually this shouldnt happen, if the password has been successfully changed
[17:41] <abradley> I had to use passwd <user>
[17:41] <testpil0t> cpined, dont ask to ask. just ask
[17:41] <abradley> I was just usign "passwd"
[17:41] <abradley> got it now, thanks
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> cpined  if you're sweet
[17:41] <testpil0t> yes
[17:42] <cpined> I'll try my best :)
[17:43] <cpined> lately when I ssh onto my ubuntu box on my local network from any pc it takes almost a minute to get the password prompt and then it takes a while to actually get on the box, if I ssh localhost from the said box it is fine.
[17:44] <olegb> cpined: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/slow-ssh ?
[17:45] <cpined> olegb: I will give it a try...although I use the IP address, would that matter?
[17:46] <chtochingo_> hello friends
[17:46] <chtochingo_> how is it going
[17:46] <chtochingo_> fuck you
[17:46] <olegb> cpined: if it tries to lookup the IP and fails (retries ... fails)
[17:47] <ArchBastard> chtochingo, lol
[17:47] <olegb> cpined: I would try to "UseDNS no"
[17:48] <cpined> olegb:Ok trying now :)
[17:48] <killer> I recently updated my app and it has a status "published" on ubuntu site but it is not searchable in software center
[17:49] <trism> killer: might ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[17:49] <cpined> olegb:Do I need to add the client ip to /etc/hosts for every client?
[17:49] <cpined> olegb:Do I neet to restart after modifying the sshd_config file?
[17:51] <MrYaah> Is there a headless / minimal install for ubuntu? I'd like to set up ubuntu with bspwm without preinstalling a different desktop environment
[17:51] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD   MrYaah
[17:52] <MrYaah> and this one has no graphical environment?
[17:53] <bean> MrYaah: any "server" iso will not have a gui.
[17:54] <cpined> olegb:Sweet! that worked...muchas thanks!
[17:55] <olegb> :-)
[17:55] <cpined> on to the next pain
[17:55] <MrYaah> cool, ty. I'll play around with them. I think im going to use the minimal cd since other sources seem to imply it doesnt have a gui either
[17:56] <joossee> ok so i am liking gnome a lot better BUT it crashes whenever i make display changes (wallapaper) or to panels... ?
[17:56] <cpined> I have Remmina....when I try to connect to another ubuntu box running same OS version I can't get pass the login page/report...I see an ok button but it is not clickable
[17:56] <joossee> http://google.ca
[17:56] <cpined> please can anyone help me with that?
[17:59] <Danato> hitsujitmo: Are you there?
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> MrYaah, be warned that minimal cd does not work with uefi systems.
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: yessum
[18:00] <cpined> please, can anyone help with another problem?  Remmina?
[18:00] <bean> !patience | cpined
[18:00] <Danato> cool, ive got a new reply, but ive got no idea how to do what he asked https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250051
[18:01] <cpined> ok...I'm new to this...I was not aware of any protocal, thanks.
[18:02] <joossee> guys I am trying to add the gnome3 PPA and I want to make sure it using the PPA for 12.04. it mentions something about 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to make sure... what do I do?
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: he's asking you to install the 3.12 kernel to see if it fixes the issue
[18:03] <Danato> hitsujitmo: and how do i do that?
[18:04] <oswin> Hi ! Does anyone know how I can configure scrolling to scroll line by line ? Instead of 3 lines
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: what's the output of: uname -a
[18:05] <Danato> hitsujitmo: Linux danato-Lenovo-G780 3.11.0-13-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 23 07:38:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:08] <Rory> oswin: In Firefox?
[18:09] <Rory> oswin: In Firefox go to about:config and find mousewheel.min_line_scroll_amount
[18:11] <ripthejacker> how do I add the ppa for the latest kernel in the software sources?
[18:12] <ripthejacker> This is url for the packages, but how do i add this to the software sources
[18:12] <ripthejacker> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> lads is there no linux-image-extras with the mainline kernels?
[18:12] <hht> hi, how to open windows 7 registry from ubuntu system?
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you run these to get the mainline kernel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6406630/
[18:16] <Danato> hitsujitmo: ok
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: let me know if there are any errors
[18:16] <Rory> ripthejacker: There isn't a repository you can add, but there are some more detailed answers here http://askubuntu.com/questions/160535/how-do-i-add-the-mainline-kernel-ppa
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: onces that's done reboot. if you have a problem booting the new kernel, just choose the 3.11 kernel to come back here again and we can remove the 3.12 kernel again
[18:18] <Danato> hitsujitmo: where will that option be?
[18:18] <oswin> Rory, no, in the system, for the trackpad
[18:18] <trism> hitsujiTMO: -extra was dropped recently on mainline builds: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2013-April/027820.html
[18:19] <ripthejacker> Rory: the pre-proposed contain the same packages as the one in that url?
[18:19] <oswin> Rory, I tried to find the right property in xinput but nothing seems to match this
[18:19] <ripthejacker> I mean the same version of the kernel?
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: at the grub boot menu, its normally hidden so you'll have to either hold left shift or right shift or hit esc to bring up the grub menu.
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> trism: cheers for that
[18:20] <Danato> hitsujitmo: noted
[18:21] <ripthejacker> Danato: it will be in the advanced option for ubuntu
[18:21] <ripthejacker> in the boot menu
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> once its installed try a reboot to see if the kernel will boot, and if thats ok, we'll disable the brightness script to see if the kernel fixes it or not
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> danato^
[18:22] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: got that part
[18:23] <Danato> so far its the third dong bar growing :P
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: i've no leave/join messages displayed so please ping me when you're back
[18:24] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: no problem
[18:24] <cpined> can someone please help me with a bizarre Remmina issue?
[18:33] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: I got an error
[18:34] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: dpkg: error processing linux-headers-3.12.0-031200-generic (--install):
[18:34] <Danato>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you paste the exact error?
[18:34] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: dpkg:  Errors were encountered while processing:
[18:34] <Danato>  linux-headers-3.12.0-031200-generic
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you install the other one first then try that again
[18:35] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: sure
[18:36] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: it worked
[18:36] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: all done, gonna reboot now
[18:37] <linuxuser1000> hello
[18:38] <Johnny_Linux>
[18:38] <linuxuser1000> i've upgraded my xfce terminal to 0.6.2-3.Is that version final
[18:38] <linuxuser1000> i needed it for the encoding menu bug fix
[18:39] <linuxuser1000> i got it from the trusty purposed
[18:39] <linuxuser1000> i wonder if it's final
[18:39] <linuxuser1000> or if i should downgrade
[18:41] <gumble_> hey, I wanted to alias my /opt/lampp/lampp, so that I don't have to enter the whole path every time. if I only enter lampp to the terminal, it does execute /opt/lampp/lampp. but when I "sudo lampp start" I get: sudo: lampp: command not found
[18:44] <gumble_> ah found my mistake
[18:48] <Jinxy> I can't ssh into my server
[18:48] <Jinxy> no idea why
[18:48] <Jinxy> would deleting my local hosts file help this?
[18:49] <Jinxy> or at least emptying its contents
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> Jinxy: whats the error?
[18:49] <Jinxy> So weird, literally just today I try to ssh in and it goes 'Connection Refused'
[18:50] <Jinxy> it's definitely the right address...I was setting up ssh keys yesterday to maybe
[18:50] <vAd0r> would ubuntu be considered suse or red hat
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> Jinxy: try adding the -v flag
[18:50] <Jinxy> okay...
[18:51] <daftykins> vAd0r: neither, they're all different
[18:51] <vAd0r> im trying to get it loaded on this old hp ml350. It will go through the entire install like it is working and then it will not boot up
[18:52] <Jinxy> hitsujiTMO: Well that worked! Thankyou very much. Bit confused though, I thought -v would specify verbosity? Why would that make it work? And why do you think this would happen in the first place?
[18:53] <Pricey> Jinxy: Exactly.
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> Jinxy: erm, it shouldn't have worked. -v is verbosity alright. must have been a kink in the network somewhere
[18:54] <Jinxy> hmm still, it's nice to know I can look at the login process to get a better idea of what's going on. Thanks again :))))
[18:57] <craigbass1976> Is there some level or RAM where Ubuntu won't register any more than that?
[18:57] <craigbass1976> I'm aware of my grammar BTW, just didn't think it through...
[18:58] <reisio> craigbass1976: not that you can afford, no
[18:58] <reisio> craigbass1976: however some BIOSes/mobos are hard coded to only accept so much
[19:00] <hitsujiTMO> craigbass1976: as reisio was saying, most chipsets in desktop market atm have a 32GB RAM limit
[19:01] <thebishop> is there anywhere to order Canonical swag from the US?  I was going to get a mug, but it's 14gbp just for shipping
[19:01] <craigbass1976> thebishop, where's it going?
[19:01] <thebishop> craigbass1976, Philadelphia, USA
[19:03] <paqu> Hi
[19:04] <paqu> anyone?
[19:04] <daftykins> paqu: just ask
[19:05] <paqu> tl-wn722n  u12.04
[19:06] <paqu> anyone can help with this usb card?
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> !details | paqu
[19:08] <paqu> ok , so i tried install this card, but it wont works, it seems to turn on for a while but when i try to select my wifi connection nothing happens
[19:08] <paqu> lshw gives
[19:08] <paqu>  description: Wireless interface
[19:08] <paqu>        physical id: 1
[19:08] <paqu>        bus info: usb@1:6
[19:08] <paqu>        logical name: wlan0
[19:08] <FloodBot1> paqu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <paqu>        serial: f8:1a:67:1c:f4:70
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: is the new Kernel working?
[19:17] <manu> hello
[19:19] <heavyammo> Hi. I am trying to disable my nVidia card on my laptop and only use the Intel one. I did some Googling but a lot of different things and methods are coming up and I am confused. Can you guys help?? Here are my hardware specs if that's relevant
[19:19] <heavyammo> I have bumblebee installed btw
[19:25] <heavyammo> sudo apt-get install bbswitch
[19:25] <heavyammo> :/
[19:26] <heavyammo> E: Unable to locate package bbswitch
[19:27] <DJones> heavyammo: Maybe its a more specific package name http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bbswitch&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all
[19:27] <OerHeks> dkms & source
[19:28] <Terabyte> why doesn't this chmod command work given that I own the folder: http://codepad.org/pooGZYkK
[19:29] <OerHeks> there is a better way to use hybrid nvidia > bumblebee
[19:29] <OerHeks> heavyammo ^^
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> Terabyte  try ith sudo
[19:30] <UUser> anyone can help me gettting graphics to work in codeblocks? I m new to codeblocks IDE
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> with*
[19:30] <heavyammo> DJones, thanks
[19:31] <heavyammo> OerHeks, do you mean better than the stock settings of bumblebe
[19:31] <heavyammo> or just using bumblebee
[19:31] <UUser> anyone can help me gettting graphics to work in codeblocks? I m new to codeblocks IDE
[19:31] <UUser> anyone?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !anyone | UUser
[19:32] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: are you there?
[19:32] <jmgk> !anyone
[19:32] <jmgk> hm
[19:32] <UUser> what happened MonkeyDust?
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: yes, is the new kernel booting?
[19:33] <OerHeks> heavyammo, bbswitch is part of the bumblebee package afaik >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[19:33] <UUser> Does anyone can help me gettting graphics to work in codeblocks? I m new to codeblocks IDE.
[19:33] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: hardly, i could only login with unity, but thats all I could do. I couldnt connect to internet with it, so i tried to use my phone to talk to you here but it was hard
[19:33] <heavyammo> OerHeks, it turns out so yes ;) But I want to disable ot completely, I feel like it's on sometimes because of the heat
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> UUser  stop asking if you can ask a question, pleaqse, just ask the question
[19:35] <UUser> i've been asking the question; can anyone help me getting graphics to work in codeblocks IDE?
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: looks like your wifi/ethernet doesn't work with it. have you booted back to 3.11?
[19:35] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: if its possible to do it offline, i could look for another irc app and keep talking here
[19:35] <heavyammo> MonkeyDust, I feel like I've seen you here like.... some years back. Are you paid support?
[19:35] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: yeah
[19:35] <jmgk> UUser:  what specifically is wrong?
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> UUser  dezcribe the problem in detail and in one line, then wait if someone knows the answer
[19:37] <UUser> jmgk: I m new to this IDE.. We are taught turbo cc with the BGI graphics header but i really dont like to use this compiler.. damn old it is.. want to move to gcc compiler along with codeblocks ide
[19:37] <UUser> but dont know how to use graphics in CB..
[19:38] <joossee> hi guys. I switched from Unity to Gnome and it crashes ALOT, mostly when making changes to desktop like panels or wallapaper. I installed the Gnome3 PPA and it did a number of updates, but still gnome crashes all the time and therror seems to be "gnome-panel crashed with SIGFPE in g_closure_invoke{}"
[19:39] <Jinxy> so `/etc/rc.local` is where you can run commands on startup, where do I write commands to be run on shutdown?
[19:40] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: if you can, comment out the backlight script in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup, then reboot to 3.12 kernel and see if the backlight work without the script, edit  /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup again, reenable the script and rebott back into the 3.11 kernel and we'll remove 3.12 kernel
[19:40] <heavyammo> joossee, yesterday I installed gnome flashback, it was buggy, weird and it crashed my entire system finally, I reinstalled
[19:40] <heavyammo> ... just saying :P
[19:41] <joossee> heavyammo, "reinstalled" ...?
[19:43] <heavyammo> joossee, as in reinstalled my entire system / ubuntu. I was not able to log in after I rebooted. But that's just me, I don't know linux too well, I don''t know about your level of knowledge
[19:43] <joossee> heavyammo, marginally higher than that :)
[19:44] <apullz> hey guys
[19:44] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: commented, going for another reboot now
[19:44] <heavyammo> joossee, ;p xfce wtf though
[19:45] <apullz> I'm trying to install windows because my ubuntu is so buggy and I'm a noob. I've downloaded 3 different ISOs for windows 7 but when i extract them or mount them it says there is no files
[19:45] <apullz> they can't all be corrup
[19:45] <joossee> heavyammo, i had worse problems with xfce :(
[19:45] <apullz> t
[19:45] <apullz> help meeeeeee
[19:45] <heavyammo> joossee,  but if you are from the old school I guess you would go back to gnome
[19:45] <joossee> apullz, #windows brah
[19:45] <apullz> no, im using ubunu atm
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> apullz  better ask in ##windows how to install windows
[19:45] <apullz> and ubuntu won't let me get rid of ubuntu
[19:45] <joossee> well if unity wasnt such a laggy turd on my video card, id stick with it but ...
[19:46] <tjbiddle> Hey guys - I have a package that was kept in an in-house repository that seems to have been removed. It's still on some machines, can I pull the .deb from a server when it was installed through apt-get?
[19:46] <pseudorandom> Hi everybody, I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 however I can't boot now I have the message 'error: file not found' and grub rescue command line. I have gparted livecd i tried grub-install but it doesn't work either ("Path '/boot/grub is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting") what can I do?
[19:46] <joossee> apullz, repartition your drives or erase the partitions and remake them in winblows, you can do this from your BIOS likely
[19:46] <heavyammo> apullz, why don't you just try to get support, fix ubuntu, ditch linux
[19:46] <pseudorandom> I don't have any spare DVDs for burning an ubuntu live dvd :(
[19:47]  * joossee nods at heavyammo
[19:47] <apullz> Can't partition from the BIOS
[19:47] <apullz> also, only have a windows USB
[19:47] <apullz> and one SSD i need to get windows on
[19:47] <apullz> but i currently have ubuntu on it and its too glitchy to let me do anything
[19:47] <joossee> apullz, sounds like you need $107 and a trip to bestbuy
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> apullz  this is not the windows support channel, type /join ##windows   (that's double #)
[19:48] <apullz> i'm not sure you understand the problem
[19:48] <OerHeks> apullz, not really an ubuntu issue
[19:48] <apullz> im asking how to fix ubuntu
[19:48] <airtonix> apullz: oh ok
[19:48] <joossee> yeah we understand, its not a #ubuntu problem
[19:48] <apullz> it is an ubuntu problem
[19:48] <Pici> apullz: it sounds like you're asking how to install Windows.
[19:48] <airtonix> apullz: describe the problem then. (without newlines)
[19:48] <apullz> IM ASKING ABOUT A PREREQUISITE TO INSTALL WINDOWS
[19:49] <airtonix> apullz: oh is that a ubuntu problem?
[19:49] <joossee> apullz, call Hp then brah. figure out how to partition your drives.
[19:49] <apullz> hahaha
[19:49] <apullz> okay
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> apullz  in what way is that ubuntu related?
[19:49] <apullz> ?
[19:49] <Pici> too many helpers...
[19:49] <apullz> because i need to fix linux
[19:49] <apullz> in order to install windows
[19:49] <airtonix> oh ok
[19:49] <apullz> ignore that im installing windows
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> apullz  no, first install windows, then linux, as windows would ruin the grub
[19:50] <apullz> lmao
[19:50] <apullz> no
[19:50] <apullz> thats not what i want
[19:50] <hkan> URGENT! I ran "sudo apt-get remove gdm*" and it removed ALMOST EVERY package installed on the system. I can still use firefox and spotify because I opened them before the removing and nothing else is working. I'm afraid to restart system, please help me!
[19:51] <joossee> apullz, let me be clear because the expeinced users in here are too nice: YOU NEED TO REPARTITION YOUR DRIVES. THERE IS A MILLION WAYS TO DO THIS.
[19:51] <reisio> hkan: should be a log in /var/log/apt
[19:51] <airtonix> joossee: i understood you up till those funny large letters
[19:51] <jmgk> joossee:  stop yelling
[19:51] <reisio> hkan: just reinstall it all
[19:51] <apullz> Basically I'm extracting an ISO but when I do so,  ubuntu decides that every ISO I download is empty
[19:51] <joossee> ^^ too nice! lol
[19:51] <apullz> and joossee, i know how to repartitioni
[19:52] <reisio> apullz: what makes you think they aren't empty
[19:52] <apullz> but i need a liveusb first
[19:52] <joossee> apullz, so you want #ubuntu to tell you to pirate windows?? seriously dawg?
[19:52] <hkan> reisio: will try that right now, thanks a lot
[19:52] <airtonix> apullz: and you didn't try using unetbootin?
[19:52] <apullz> it's not pirateing, i have a key
[19:52] <apullz> i've tried unetbootin
[19:52] <pinPoint> is anyone here using apache 2.4.x from a manual install or ppa that is not part of the official repos?
[19:52] <apullz> it just puts little text files onto the usb
[19:52] <reisio> pinPoint: probably someone is
[19:52]  * joossee still needs help with the GNOME crashing issue
[19:53] <reisio> apullz: oh you're trying to put windows on a usb stick?
[19:53] <apullz> Yeah, I know how to do it
[19:53] <airtonix> joossee: did you try install ubuntu-desktop ? (i'd look this up first)
[19:53] <OerHeks> apullz, so your download is corrupted, what do you want us to do ?
[19:53] <reisio> apullz: so what don't you know how to do
[19:53] <apullz> but the ISO's are "empty"
[19:53] <joossee> airtonix, yep its installed
[19:53] <reisio> apullz: doesn't sound like you know how to do it, then
[19:53] <reisio> apullz: try http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-167060
 back, I still had the same problem there
[19:53] <airtonix> joossee: re install it? sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall ?
[19:53] <apullz> reisio, done that already
[19:53] <joossee> airtonix, kk
[19:54] <apullz> reisio, i have lurked my problem for days
[19:54] <reisio> apullz: well you must be doing something wrong :) try #windows
[19:54] <apullz> reisio, you suggest i go to windows with a linux problem. that is not helping
[19:54] <airtonix> joossee: or you could try installing gdm again?
[19:55] <reisio> apullz: imaging windows onto a usb stick is not a linux problem
[19:55] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: so how do i uninstall that kernel?
[19:55] <joossee> airtonix, I was under the impression that GDM does not exist anymore? replaced with light-DM?
[19:55] <Aliekezhi> hi, I have a strange problem : when I open an image, with any program, the session just close automatically as if I was logging out...Any idea where it can come from ? (or what logs to check ?)
[19:55] <apullz> reisio, it is if it's done on ubuntu
[19:55] <airtonix> joossee: depends if you're using gnome-shell. gdm is still very much alive.
[19:55] <pseudorandom> hi, anyone with an idea how to fix 'error: file not found' on grub rescue command line?
[19:55] <joossee> ok i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop ... logoff?
[19:55] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you pastebin: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-
[19:56] <reisio> apullz: everything you can do from Ubuntu is covered by the link I gave, the rest is some other domain
[19:56] <deper29> pseudorandom: is the file actually there?
[19:56] <hkan> reisio: is there something like a recovery mode from ubuntu dvd like windows has? there's a lot to reinstall
[19:56] <airtonix> joossee: oh are you trying out 3.10?
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> apullz, Do you want linux and windows, you will have to resize the linux with linux for a unallocated space, the usb load is easy.
[19:56] <pseudorandom> deper29: i dont know which file it is. perhaps it is, but which?
[19:56] <joossee> airtonix, no 12.04 server 64
[19:56] <deper29> pseudorandom: what exactly are you trying to do?
[19:56] <joossee> airtonix, Unity is too crappy for my purposes
[19:56] <airtonix> joossee: 12.04 server with gnome classic or shell?
[19:56] <pinPoint> reisio: would it be a pain to maintain it?
[19:56] <reisio> hkan: you can do it from 'try'
[19:57] <airtonix> (sounds like shell)
[19:57] <reisio> hkan: or from the existing system without rebooting, probably
[19:57] <joossee> airtonix, whichever gnome i pick it seems to do the same one
[19:57] <pinPoint> vs doing apt-get update style?
[19:57] <joossee> load the same one
[19:57] <deper29> pseudorandom: are you trying to do a regular boot and it won't let you?
[19:57] <reisio> pinPoint: yes of course
[19:57] <pseudorandom> deper29: boot my computer. "error: file not found" is what i see immediately after powering up laptop