[07:32] <Aerosonic> Ubuntu sucks
[07:33] <juho> where is the first-person shooter games for Ubuntu
[07:33] <Aerosonic> This never happens on Arch
[07:33] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  you may wan tot make an actual .desktop file launcher for your script.
[07:33] <Aerosonic> But due to horrid hardware issues I have to use Ubuntu
[07:33] <Chuck_Norris> Aerosonic: you sucks
[07:33] <dr_willis> way to butter people up :)
[07:33] <Aerosonic> Chuck_Norris: Given the proper device, I will.
[07:34]  * dr_willis goes back to making cookies.
[07:34] <Stereocaulon> Aerosonic,  Chuck_Norris, Let's  keep things civil, right?
[07:34] <Chuck_Norris> Stereocaulon: ok
[07:35] <Stereocaulon> Aerosonic, did you already try another distro, apart from Arch or Ubuntu? The problem might lie upstream rather then being tied to a specific distro.
[07:36] <dr_willis> never mind.. :O
[07:36] <bazhang> Stereocaulon, he's gone
[07:36]  * dr_willis still wonders how you click a gesture-mouse
[07:36] <Stereocaulon> bazhang, Well he did not have much patience...
[07:36] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, probably, but i don't know how. The point is that i don' want the same a "application" visible in several places on the desktop. I only wan't a single script-file that i can drag to docky ( or script-file and an desktop file, but in this case i want the desktop file in a patth i decide). Is the possible?
[07:37] <celltech> Wow... How do I access the vboxusers group to add myself too
[07:37] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  keep your scripts in some dir in your path. like ~/bin or /opt/bin  and copy/edit the existing .desktop launcher files to make your own.
[07:38] <dr_willis> some tools to help   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html
[07:39] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, i see
[07:39] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, thanks
[07:39] <Evilkiss1> help me
[07:40] <dr_willis> similer info    http://shuffleos.com/3274/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[07:40] <dr_willis> Evilkiss1:  state the issue
[07:40] <Stereocaulon> celltech, you can use this: sudo useradd -G vboxusers <your own username>
[07:40] <Evilkiss1> I don't understand this issue...always I login to pidgin, I have this number 1 after my nick
[07:40] <Flannel> Stereocaulon, celltech: NO, DONT DO THAT
[07:40] <Evilkiss1> but i has registered for nick Evilkiss
[07:40] <Stereocaulon> Flannel, why not?
[07:41] <dr_willis> Evilkiss1:  perhaps ask in #freenode
[07:41] <Flannel> Stereocaulon, celltech: Because you forgot the -a, which means he'll blow away all his secondary groups.
[07:41] <Flannel> celltech, Stereocaulon: user `sudo adduser username vboxusers` instead, it's much safer.
[07:41] <Stereocaulon> Flannel, you are so right, thanks for spotting this
[07:41] <Flannel> er, use, not user.
[07:41] <Stereocaulon> Flannel++
[07:42] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, do you know how i restart the windowmanager, like metacity and/or compiz in ubuntu 10.10?((commandline)
[07:42] <bullgard4> What is understood by "The Ubuntu-mono Archives"? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mono/
[07:42] <prite> Pepp-elito: <windowmanager> --replace
[07:42] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  its not clear what you are asking.
[07:43] <Stereocaulon> grabbing a bite, will be back a little later...
[07:43] <prince_jammys> looks like an archive of bug reports related to mono.
[07:43] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  the url sounds like a archive of the ubuntu mono mailing list
[07:43] <bullgard4> dr_willis: Can you tell me what "The Ubuntu-mono Archives" are? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mono/
[07:44] <prince_jammys> "Mailing list for packaging Mono and related applications for Ubuntu.
[07:44] <dr_willis> mailing list - alterantive to forum/newsgroups
[07:44] <dr_willis> so its an archive of everyones discussion from the mailing-lists
[07:45] <bullgard4> dr_willis: What association is "the ubuntu mono" so that there is a "ubuntu mono mailing list"?
[07:45] <Flannel> bullgard4: Please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[07:45] <dr_willis> its a grup of developers  that are focused on packaing mono in ubuntu sounds like..
[07:45] <Pepp-elito> prite, how can i check which windowmanager is active?
[07:46] <bullgard4> Flannel: Why can I not ask this question here? I am asking about Ubuntu don't I?
[07:46] <dr_willis> theres most likely a ubuntu kernel mailing list and other lists focusing on specific ubuntu areas
[07:46] <prite> try `ps ax | grep <windowmanager>` to see if the <windowmanager> is running. Generally: if Desktop Effects are flashy, it's probably compiz. If Desktop Effects suck, it's probably metacity
[07:47] <Flannel> bullgard4: Helping you understand english isn't Ubuntu technical support; it belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic.  You've asked these things in there forever anyway, I don't know why you switched over to asking in #ubuntu.
[07:48] <prite> Pepp-elito: or, this command will do: wmctrl -m | grep "Name" | cut -c7-
[07:49] <Silpelit> Noob question, but I just downloaded a driver from https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/xf86-input-synaptics/
[07:49] <pigeta> hi
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> can one prevent malicious services from an usb stick to spread on ubuntu
[07:49] <Silpelit> It's downloaded, I'm looking at the file, how do I get synaptic package manager to open it?
[07:50] <dr_willis> Silpelit:  most likely - you dont.  Unless someone made a .deb of it.
[07:50] <dr_willis> even then . drivers are normally compiled for a specific kernel
[07:50] <pigeta> some one can show me how extract a multiarchive zip (file.z1,file.z2 ecc.) with 7zip from terminal please?
[07:50] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  malicious services? never seen one of those.. never sene a way for a usb stick to 'infect' a linux machine either.
[07:51] <dr_willis> pigeta:  i tend to cheat and use the 'unp' command.
[07:51] <bobofosho123> anyone here know how to get a gobi 2000 chip working on a cr-48 chromebook?
[07:51] <Chuck_Norris> lotuspsychje: dont warry abour your usb using ubuntu
[07:51] <dr_willis> pigeta:  normally one just extracts the frst file and it finds the rest.
[07:51] <dr_willis> !info unp
[07:51] <Pepp-elito> prite, thanks now i have created a nice simple script which disables compositing when starting xbmc and enables it again on exit. No video tearing in xbmc any more and the only cost is a small ficker when exiting xbmc =)
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: are you sure botnet worms can't spread on ubuntu?
[07:51] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  going to be a bit hard for a user to infect the whole system..
[07:52] <dr_willis> and theres no 'auto run on insertion' of usb devices that ive seen.
[07:52] <Chuck_Norris> lotuspsychje: dont panic dude this is not windows
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:52] <Chuck_Norris> lotuspsychje: Linux != windows
[07:52] <dr_willis> 'double-click-here-for-porn.sh' dosent really work well in linux ;)
[07:53] <Silpelit> I'd bash that.
[07:53] <Silpelit> >.>
[07:53] <Chuck_Norris> i agree with dr_willis xD
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: there are hardass unix rootkits out there too
[07:53] <prite> Pepp-elito: just an addition: if you are using ati drivers, video tearing can be handled in the Catalyst Control Center. But still, your script is cooler.
[07:53] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  if you enable the 'vsync' (or whate was it called) feature - i  rarely see tearing.
[07:54] <dr_willis> ati's control panel calls it 'anti-tear-technology' or some other silly name. :)
[07:54] <dr_willis> Silpelit:  if the driver is in the repos.. use the package manager tool to search for and install it.
[07:55] <Pepp-elito> prite,dr_willis. this is actually the only thing that has worked for me running nvidia ion chipset. I have tried every thing i have found on the web, including vsync, undrirect thing in full screen for compiz etc...
[07:55] <dr_willis> 'wait for vertical refresh'
[07:55] <prince_jammys> !info xserver-xorg-input-synaptics | Silpelit
[07:55] <dr_willis> could be the cpu/gpu just is lacking in Powar!
[07:55] <Johndoe205> Hello!
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> Chuck_Norris: so you dont think usb stick could infect lets say firefox on ubuntu?
[07:56] <prite> !ask | Johndoe205
[07:56] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, wait for vertical refrash is this a setting in compiz or xbmc?
[07:56] <prince_jammys> Silpelit: you likely have this installed already.
[07:56] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  its a driver setting ive seen it in the nvidia settings tool and  the amd tool.
[07:56] <Chuck_Norris> lotuspsychje: there is no way by defoult dude unless you desactive apparmor and others security stuffs
[07:57] <dr_willis> They just all like to call it differnt things
[07:57] <pigeta> dr_willis : how use  unp for join all files (file.z1,file.z2 ecc) and extract inta a single file?
[07:57] <Johndoe205> I have a question regarding bt5 tools. Does it exist for 10.10?
[07:57] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, in nvidia gui-settings or using commandline nvidia-xconfig?
[07:57] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  if the user is running unknown source scripts and binaries..  then from a usb or the net.. wont matter.
[07:57] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  should be in both.
[07:57] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: if merely plugging in a usb stick can infect your system this way, we're in major trouble.
[07:58] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  worse case hopefully would be the users stuff gets messed with - system stays secure
[07:58] <stjohnmedrano> good day, where can i download chromium precise?
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: so its not possible to remotely get root on a system on ubuntu?
[07:58] <dr_willis> thats sort of a keystone in the linux security model seperation of users and root user.
[07:59] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  theres alwyas servies or other things that may have exploits.. but ive not heard of any in ages
[07:59] <dr_willis> the use of sudo on ubuntu makes it even harder.
[07:59] <theadmin> stjohnmedrano: apt-get install chromium-browser
[08:00] <stjohnmedrano> theadmin: thanx, i'll try it now.
[08:00] <Chuck_Norris> yep, lotuspsychje just dont, run aplication like .run (where nobody can see the code, unless you downloaded it from oficial page like ATIs .run) and run .deb from the oficial repos, or PPAs, and there is no way to crash linux trust me
[08:01] <dr_willis> pigeta:  id just try 'unp foo.z1'  assuming you have the 7zip binaries installed.
[08:01] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, i can't find it: nvidia-xconfig -A | grep refresh and i don't see it in the UI settings.. :(
[08:01] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  not on an nvidia box so i ant check.
[08:02] <dr_willis> i recall seeing it in the nvidia-settings tool
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> Chuck_Norris: lets say vnc got an exploit on ubuntu, it would be impossible to take over the system?
[08:02] <Chuck_Norris> i mean its no imposible but there is very very hard to hack linux, even if a noob is using it
[08:02] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, are you running ati zacate?
[08:02] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  got some low end ati in this low end cheap desktop i found on sale.
[08:02] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: not *impossible*, but with an up-to-date system, unlikely.
[08:03] <Chuck_Norris> i am sure that there is an update for that exploit, show us the CVS
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: today you are updated, tomorrow there's a new exploit right
[08:03] <dr_willis> not heardof many exploits lately...
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> ok
[08:03] <dr_willis> other then that screen-lock bypass  thing.
[08:04] <stjohnmedrano> my next question is, what command to use in removing ppa's from terminal?
[08:04] <dr_willis> Theres linux security sites that follow this stuff better.
[08:04] <dr_willis> !ppapurge
[08:04] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, okay i was just wondering. zotac has some amd/ati boxes that seems good as htpc. but everyone say that you should not use ati in linux/xbmc. so I'm on nvidia =)
[08:04] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  i would run away from ati. :)
[08:04] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: and then there''s a patch, so you update, then they find another exploit, and you install the patch ... one day you die :)
[08:05] <dr_willis> then you get patched..
[08:05] <dr_willis> and come back as a zombie process!
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: lol i will die one day
[08:05] <prince_jammys> then your kids update ...
[08:05] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, okay thanks. My script solution works now anyway, so thats nice =) Thanks alot everyone!
[08:05] <prince_jammys> then there's a new exploit ... you get the idea. Don't worr about it.
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> ok so ubuntu is pretty safe
[08:05] <dr_willis> security is all about layers of protection.
[08:05] <prince_jammys> es
[08:06] <prince_jammys> i picked up the "crappy 'y' key" virus.
[08:06] <dr_willis> ubuntu has quite  few layers. theres some more locked down ubuntu and linux variants out there if you want to be truely paranoid
[08:06] <prince_jammys> Yes.
[08:06]  * dr_willis makes all of prince_jammys 's e on the screen fall down like snow flakes...
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> but sure the whole world has ubuntu servers with rootkits
[08:07] <phpN00b> what version of gnome does the current version of ubuntu come with?
[08:07] <dr_willis> the world has people running ubuntu servers that fail to understand security basics...
[08:07] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: do you run a server?
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: not but i know many get exploited..
[08:08] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: most desktop users fall prey to trojans. Don't run untrusted code and you'll be ok.
[08:08] <dr_willis> latest linux security news :)   http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/156663/187/
[08:09] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: you worry about it a whole lot more if you run a publicly-facing server.
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: these days every1 is prey to malicious websites even when not clicking untrusted banners
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: tnx for the link
[08:10] <prince_jammys> that'd be a browser exploit, and those get patched quite quickly.
[08:10] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: only if you visit malicious websites (with browsers with security flaws)
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> lol dr_willis: what a list of holes :p
[08:12] <phpN00b> people, take tis to #ubuntu-offtopic and help me please
[08:12] <phpN00b> what version of gnome does the current version of ubuntu come with?
[08:12] <auronandace> phpN00b: 3.2 i think
[08:12] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  acutally most are rather trivial or allready patched. or never exploited to begin with
[08:12] <phpN00b> auronandace, can you verify it?
[08:12] <auronandace> phpN00b: i don't run gnome but i can try
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-shell
[08:13] <forever1> phpN00b:ubuntu 11.10 GNOME3.2.1
[08:13] <auronandace> !find gnome-shell
[08:13] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: thanks, beat me to it
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: ill sleep well as i know untrusted services caznt get axs to my system
[08:14] <Loshki> lotuspsychje: The number of actually usable exploits is tiny. See also (gasp) openbsd, for a more paranoid outlook...
[08:14] <Lourens> Hi, Could someone please advise how to get a ~/.xsession to execute on 11.10.
[08:14] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  biggest danger to your system is you (the end user) doing somting silly
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> loshki: i run snort on ubuntu, any other packages could help me out?
[08:15] <auronandace> dr_willis: very true
[08:15] <forever1> lourens: press alt-F2
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: on windows, browsing the web can be pretty silly
[08:15] <Loshki> lotuspsychje: running behind a NAT router is cheap insurance, IMO...
[08:15] <Lourens> forever1: I mean as part of startup.
[08:16] <forever1> lourens:the same on startup
[08:16] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  on windows everything can be silly
[08:16] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: if you're worried about js from the browser, see the noscript firefox extension.
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> true lol
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: i use it too :p tnx
[08:17] <Lourens> forever1: I mean as part of the system startup procedure.
[08:17] <dr_willis> Lourens:  theres some guides out on doing it.   such as .. making a   /usr/share/xsessions/xsession.desktop    mentioned here http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/Quickly_Setting_up_Awesome_with_Gnome
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> can ubuntu set removeable media root password to prevent?
[08:17] <Lourens> Thanks dr_willis I'm following that one up.
[08:18] <intok> Anyone ever install WMP10 via PlayOnLinux? Why has it takn almost 2 hours now to uncheck the filetype associations? It's doing something, theres some text flying by in the WMP10 installer window thats too fast to read, and every time it's none so after a few mins I would be able to hit the next item. just that I've been at 3rd from last for s long...
[08:18] <prince_jammys> to prevent what?
[08:18] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: root doesn't have a password
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: prevent usb stick to see content
[08:18] <dr_willis> Lourens:  some neat info on the man pages also  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man5/Xsession.5.html
[08:18] <genewitch> auronandace: IT IS A FEATURE NOT A BUG
[08:19] <sectionme> Anyone experienced issues with KVM, whereby the guest system can cause the host to just poweroff? Nothing in logs as to why.
[08:19] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: if you're concerned this, you likely need to look into encryption.
[08:19] <auronandace> genewitch: i'm aware of why, doesn't mean i agree with it
[08:19] <prince_jammys> *with this
[08:19] <dr_willis> intok:  you did check the wine app database to see if wmp10 even works in wine?
[08:19] <Lourens> dr_willis: Thanks.
[08:20] <genewitch> auronandace: it's a blessing when you have 100 servers
[08:20] <genewitch> auronandace: and goddamned developers always want to screw with configs
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: ok tnx, but if the usb stick was not mine and not encrypted, can i set ubuntu to ask password to users to open the stick?
[08:21] <genewitch> once a week, mark it, once a week we send an email "developers should not mess with system configs"
[08:21] <intok> dr_willis no, figured it was since it was offered via PlayOnLinux
[08:21] <dr_willis> intok:  never used play on linux, they got their own forums perhaps
[08:21] <sbarcteam> hi, which is the chan for the next release ?
[08:21] <dr_willis> I cant imagine why you would want wmp in linux either. :)
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> !precise
[08:21] <sbarcteam> lotuspsychje: thanks.
[08:22] <genewitch> dr_willis: it's playonlinx
[08:22] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: i don't know. if they have access to it and it's not encrypted, i don't see that it would help much. What are you worried about?
[08:22] <genewitch> prince_jammys: it sounds fishy
[08:22] <prince_jammys> fish?
[08:22] <genewitch> just format the USB stick in some esoteric filesystem
[08:22] <genewitch> like... gluster
[08:22] <genewitch> then you don't need a password
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys:just wondering, like ubuntu asks password for changing network security, maybe it can for removeable media too?
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> !info gluster
[08:23] <genewitch> lotuspsychje: oh that, to mount removable regardless of what it is? you can do that
[08:23] <genewitch> lotuspsychje: see, PERFECT
[08:23] <genewitch> !info gfs
[08:23] <prince_jammys> if users have physical access to the box, there isn't much you can do if they're committed to snooping around.
[08:24] <Loshki> sectionme: sudden poweroffs are often a symptom of a failing power supply, maybe triggered by the extra load. Or it's a horrendous bug, but then, you'd expect other people to see it too. Try #kvm?
[08:24] <genewitch> prince_jammys: virtualized systems too
[08:24]  * dr_willis glues lotuspsychje 's usb ports shut
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> i was wondering why users can snoop around in other users home dir..doesnt make sense
[08:25]  * prince_jammys hides the usb stick inside a pickle.
[08:25] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  thats setable to be off if you wante to
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: how?
[08:25] <genewitch> sectionme: yeah no guest should interfere with host operations. you have a power supply or heat issue
[08:25] <dr_willis> if you want even more layers of paranoia thers encrypted homes
[08:25] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  proper use of chown/chmod is one way.
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[08:25] <genewitch> sectionme: get an IR thermometer and check your north and south bridges and CPU heatsink temps
[08:25] <intok> dr_willis yeah, finally got a reply in their IRC room, surprised since I asked there quite awhile back now
[08:26] <genewitch> sectionme: $20 says you need thermalpaste on something or a new PSU
[08:26] <Loshki> intok: small chat rooms work on entirely different timescales than this one...
[08:26] <genewitch> Loshki: a lot of /lastlog -hi and resubmitting your questions
[08:26]  * lotuspsychje needs powerglue for the whole system :p
[08:27] <intok> Loshki yeah, here it's neat the femtosecond level at times...
[08:27] <goddard> where is gedit installed?
[08:27] <sectionme> genewitch: on a few month old laptop with sandybridge, temps are less then 50oC, its strange as its only happened with one host account, others are working fine (I have a freebsd 8.1 and ubuntu+1 guest working fine) but if I try and boot the freepbx iso when it goes to boot from the iso menu it powers off the guest.
[08:27] <dr_willis> goddard:  why does it matter?  try 'which gedit'
[08:28] <sectionme> doh host not guest that it powers off.
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: isnt there a command to see services that doesnt belong to ubuntu's system?
[08:28] <goddard> dr_willis: grease monkey has this stupid thing where it asks me to locate the bin of my favorite text editor
[08:28] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  theres the 'service' command.. but how do you know aht ones 'dosent belong'?
[08:28] <dr_willis> goddard:  just entering 'gedit' dont like it eh?
[08:28] <prince_jammys> goddard: likely /usr/bin
[08:29] <dr_willis> so much for defaut paths. :)
[08:29] <prince_jammys> $120 on /usr/bin
[08:29] <dr_willis> 'which gedit' shows you where its at
[08:29] <goddard> oh ok
[08:29] <prince_jammys> bet me first, then run that.
[08:29] <goddard> /usr/bin/gedit
[08:29] <dr_willis> i said eralier to use 'which gedit' :)
[08:29] <goddard>  bingo
[08:30] <goddard> sorry im hard of listening
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: i tought maybe there's a way to ask the system highlighting its default list or something?
[08:30] <goddard> :D
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> can't help my paranoia attitude lol
[08:30] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  i think you are beating a dead horse....
[08:30] <prince_jammys> post-traumatic stress?
[08:30] <forever1> :)
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:30] <dr_willis> time to go read some security web sites..
[08:30] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: get a guard dog. or maybe a pit of crocodiles.
[08:30] <genewitch> sectionme: 50C is stupid hot
[08:30] <Loshki> sectionme: dunno. Try also #freepbx...
[08:30] <prince_jammys> and liability insurance.
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> wahahaha
[08:31] <genewitch> sectionme: i run 40 under load... 50C is pushing "i need a new heatsink"
[08:31] <dr_willis> and quit worrying about someone sticking a usb stick in your pc and making it install  some russian-maffia-rootkit-farm
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> roflol
[08:31] <genewitch> dr_willis: YOU NEVER CAN TELL WITH BEES
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> a pit of crocodiles lol
[08:31] <dr_willis> We got Allagators in the usa
[08:32] <dr_willis> Put the pc in a Hive  of Killer bees!
[08:32] <dr_willis> surrounded by fire ants!
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:32] <genewitch> lotuspsychje: superglue your USB ports closed
[08:32]  * lotuspsychje feels a whole lot safer
[08:32] <dr_willis> 'Biggest danger to a Ubuntu system is "U"' :)
[08:33] <Loshki> lotuspsychje: no act of data acquisition is entirely without risk...
[08:33] <forever1> dr_willis:true on last coment
[08:33] <sectionme> genewitch: it seems the temps are controlled by the BIOS and no fan control currently under linux for it, it seems to stableise them at 47.3-48oC no matter what.
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> if they can enter pentagon or fbi, why would they not axs to ubuntu?
[08:34] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: because you don't run a server, and they do.
[08:34] <prince_jammys> there.
[08:34] <genewitch> sectionme: yeah so plug the fans into your outlet at the wall
[08:34] <genewitch> sectionme: you NEVER CAN BE TOO COOLING
[08:34] <genewitch> put that rig in the lake
[08:34] <genewitch> watercooled amirite
[08:34] <dr_willis> Put the PC in a Keg Fridgerator. and run cavles out the hole in the top
[08:34] <genewitch> 12:34AM PST the drunkards get on #ubuntu
[08:35] <genewitch> write it down
[08:35] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: i'm sure ubuntu isn't a valued target as the pentagon or fbi (i bet they are using windows)
[08:35] <dr_willis> fbiuntu!
[08:35]  * sectionme notes that on IRC times without zones are pointless
[08:35] <prince_jammys> what a strange statement.
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> auronadance: lol
[08:35] <sectionme> write it down :P
[08:36] <prince_jammys> they're also, like, running the US military.
[08:36] <forever1> lotuspsychje:What's on your system thats so important to protect?
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: ive readed that fbi created a linux safe distro?
[08:36] <dr_willis> his lolcat image collection.
[08:36] <prince_jammys> kitties.jpg
[08:36] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: yeah, with flash installed by default
[08:36] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  theres various nsc (nsa?) linux and other os projects for harddended security
[08:37] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: but most importantly, i repeat, you're not running a public-facing server.
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> im just a paranoia user that knows what the underworld is up to
[08:37] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  see http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/
[08:37] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  i doubt if you really know what they are up to. :)
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> yeah thats the one dr_willis
[08:37] <dr_willis> or else you whouldent be on irc. :)
[08:38] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  with your ip address hanging out there. :)
[08:38] <forever1> lotuspsychje:then set ip:port traps with alerts and setup a ghost system interface
[08:38] <dr_willis> ive notied i get more ssh attempts when im on IRC then when im not. :)
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: i read security.nl every day, like millions of users get exploited
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> i think its good for a user not to trust everything right
[08:40] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: install trusted software. use encryption where necessary. install security updates.
[08:40] <forever1> lotuspsychje:true
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> forever1:whats a good ghost system?
[08:41] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: if you're really worried you could consider using tor
[08:41] <prince_jammys> that's a different story. now we're talkin privacy.
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> every day they find new tricks to hack into ppl pcbanking websites
[08:41] <forever1> virtual os with virtualbox ported as you network with the virtual os giving shared internet to the host on the back end, it allows you to setup three firewalls
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> tor and vpn would be cool idea yeah
[08:42] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: but you *don't* run a website!
[08:42]  * prince_jammys busts out the hose.
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> running a website is even more danger indeed
[08:43] <SeasluG> what is secure ?
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> thats my point
[08:43] <Gskellig> how would I convert a folder of raw image files to jpg with imagemagick
[08:43] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: or better yet, for ultimate security: don't connect to the internet
[08:43] <dr_willis> tor is more for anommity not security
[08:43] <Gskellig> doesn't seem to be working
[08:43] <dr_willis> Gskellig:  you got a cli command to do it for one file?
[08:44] <SeasluG> auronandace,  that doesnt mean you secure you still have the human element
[08:44] <Gskellig> dr_willis, its different for one file or a bunch of files
[08:44] <Gskellig> it uses "convert" for one file
[08:44] <Gskellig> or "mogrify" for batch
[08:44] <dr_willis> Gskellig:  or you can use 'find' and have it run the command on each file....
[08:44] <Gskellig> how?
[08:44] <Stereocaulon> Can anyone help me to setup a local DNS server?
[08:44] <dr_willis> or some other bash-script-fu
[08:44] <prince_jammys> or use imagemagick's ability to understand globs, iirc.
[08:44] <OptikKore> hey guys real quick question, do i want FGLRX (post-release updates) or regular FGLRX driver?
[08:45] <dr_willis> # find -iname "MyCProgram.c" -exec md5sum {} \;
[08:45] <dr_willis> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/03/15-practical-linux-find-command-examples/
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: http://news.softpedia.com/newsTag/kernel+vulnerability
[08:47] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  hate to tell you this.. but i really dont care. :)
[08:47] <dr_willis> unless the dog is going to start haxoring on my pc...
[08:47] <OptikKore> lspci says i have ATI Technologies Inc Device 9804
[08:48] <dr_willis> more find examples --> http://linux.about.com/od/commands/a/blcmdl1_findx.htm
[08:49] <xase> Hello, I have an integrated i810 series graphics card, and just added a nvidia card and while jockey asked me if I wanted to install drivers for it I have no clue, how to switch it to being my default display method...
[08:50] <xase> plugging in my vga cord(a really cheap underfeatured thing) to the card doesn't do any sort of auto switching.
[08:50] <dr_willis> xase:  for most pcs it will default to the pci/pcie/whatever card - if theres one plugged in.
[08:50] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: if you're truly obsessive about security, you might even be interested in debian stable, or even some BSD.
[08:50] <dr_willis> there may be bios settings to disalbe the onboard chipset.
[08:50] <xase> I checked... there wasn't... just one to set the preferred graphics card.
[08:50] <dr_willis> You may need to install the nvidia driers, then reboot also.
[08:50] <xase> I set to PCI
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys, i like ubuntu's eyecandy too much :p
[08:50] <xase> I also did that already.
[08:51] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: well, stop worrying then. follow the standard tips we gave and you'll be fine.
[08:51] <dr_willis> you ran the nvidia-settings tool after rebooting?
[08:51] <xase> Nope.
[08:51] <xase> sudo nvidia-settings ?
[08:51] <Evilkiss> Need help?
[08:51] <xase> This is a legacy card...
[08:51] <xase> Does that apply?
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: im not worried, i just find it very ironic one reads security exploits everywhere, and then they say systems are secure..
[08:53] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  if you want a pc that no one will try to hack - try installing Fluffy Linux ---> http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/
[08:53] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: the truth is that security is a constant battle -- a lot of time spent.
[08:53] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  some researcher reporting  that they found a 'potential exploit that is patched by a updaed ersion' isent really  much of an exploit.
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: i agree on that
[08:54] <SI4> How do i donate to ubuntu?
[08:54] <auronandace> !donate | SI4
[08:54] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: just focus on the attacks that would apply to *you*, and be cautious.
[08:54] <SI4> is it non profit org, for tax deductions?
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: lol i like the pink layout, but where are my crocodiles :p
[08:55] <dr_willis> the bunnies ate them
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu flavors for every1 :p
[08:55] <prince_jammys> SI4: no.
[08:55] <SI4> thats too bad
[08:57] <xase> Hmm
[08:58] <xase> Is there a way to tell it to use a specific card using a terminal, just to test to make sure it even works?
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: you know as well as me that not everyone will update every day
[08:58] <OptikKore> do i want FGLRX (post-release updates) or regular FGLRX driver?
[08:58] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: sounds like you will
[08:59] <dr_willis> ubuntu has auto-update security updates features.. thats the main thing.
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> auronandace: yes updated ocelot 64 bit on ssd
[08:59] <xase> ...
[08:59] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: so why worry about other peoples security?
[09:00] <buhman> how do I resize MBR partitions that contain dm_crypt+lvm2?
[09:00] <xase> lotuspsychje, except for ocd folks who have their special boxes set up to do just that with cron :p
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> auronandace: why not worry opensource, every1 benefits
[09:01] <dr_willis> pointless worrying is pointless
[09:02] <hansg01> have 2 ubuntu distros installed in my system
[09:02] <hansg01> how to make HOME directory common for both
[09:02] <hansg01> ?
[09:03] <prince_jammys> normally by putting /home in its own partition.
[09:03] <dr_willis> that can cause issues hansg01  you coul duse a common /home partition with differnt user names.
[09:03] <xase> hangs01 set home as a seperate partition, and make sure both users have the correct permissions and user id.
[09:04] <hansg01> xase: ok will make a separate partition mounted as /home
[09:04] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, that would normally not be a smart thing to do, better symlink individual dirs.
[09:04] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: synlink?
[09:04] <dr_willis> or use a /partition/home   and a /partition/home2
[09:04] <xase> I'd agree that keeping seperate users is a better idea.
[09:05] <hansg01> xase: what's nxt
[09:05] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, ln -s <target > <source>
[09:05] <Stereocaulon> !symlink | hansg01
[09:05] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: okay terminal
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: if u ever visited irc warez channels full of rooted unix boxes, you'd worry too
[09:06] <hansg01> is there any way to downgrade to ubuntu 11.10?
[09:06] <Ririshi> Hello. I think you still know me, I tried to install Ubuntu 11.10 but it didn't work. I'm installing Lubuntu now and it works!
[09:06] <hansg01> i am on 12.04 alpha 2
[09:06] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, not exactly the output I hoped for from ubottu. Well, a symlink is a kind of shortcut that functions as if the directory/ file was really there
[09:07] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: okay
[09:07] <hansg01> can i downgrade back to 11.10?
[09:07] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, you probably want to share the bookmarks in firefox and the documents, right?
[09:07] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: i want if i play with my distros i dnt lose my data
[09:09] <xase> !ln
[09:09] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: i recently played with unity and got it rashed and then with gnome and got it crasheed too so had to dist upgrade 11.10 but it is an alpha release so having problems while working on projects else its cool
[09:09] <xase> hmm
[09:09] <xase> :0
[09:09] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, oh so that's your worry. Well, why don't you make backup of your /home partition then and store it on another partition, that you can name for instance, home2, or simply homeback?
[09:10] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: hmm seems like a good idea!
[09:10] <Ririshi> m
[09:10] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: thnks!
[09:11] <Ririshi> Oops sorry. I am installing Lubuntu because Ubuntu didn't work. Am I right here? Or should I got to another channel?
[09:11] <hansg01> btw is there any way that i can downgrade distro's except giving it a fresh install?
[09:11] <dr_willis> hansg01:  reinstall is how to do it.
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> !info gns3
[09:11] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, np :-) and remember to file bugs for 12.04 if you run into snags, (after you have searched if the bug has not been reported of course). That way we'll have a better release and that will help all Ubuntu users
[09:11] <goddard> anyone know if you can intergrate the unity thing with docky?
[09:12] <dr_willis> you can run docky at tehsame time goddard  what do you want to do exactly?
[09:12] <forever1> goddard:yes you can
[09:12] <goddard> forever1: sweet how?
[09:12] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: yeah i am but i am reporting bugs as of nw dnt really hv experience of filing bugs
[09:13] <forever1> which version of linux?
[09:13] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, Is there something you want to ask about reporting bugs?
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> !info blueproximity
[09:13] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, something specific?
[09:14] <forever1> Just use the ubuntu software center to install the docking menu
[09:14] <travmon> WeeChat uptime: 0 day 01:19:01, started on Sun Jan 29 03:55:25 2012
[09:15] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: better i should read the docs first then will return back or i'll be the one to ask who dnt know anything abt bugs
[09:15] <dr_willis> Hmm. Blueproximity seems neat. I need a front door lock that does that for me  :)
[09:16] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: thnks a lot!
[09:16] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, sounds like a splendid idea, but if you get stuck don't hesitate to ask help.
[09:16] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: thnks a lot!
[09:16] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, dont't mention it.
[09:16] <Ririshi> Should I install my GRUB Loader in the MBR? (i am installing lubuntu)
[09:16] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, and thanks in advance for making good bug reports :-)
[09:16] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: :)
[09:16] <bullgard4> prince_jammys, dr_willis: Thank you for commenting and help.
[09:17] <forever1> one hour uptime 400kb/s used on irc interesting
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> !info awn
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> !info avant-window-navigator
[09:18] <dr_willis> lots of neat dock thangs  out there these days
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> yeah agree
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> looks nice
[09:19] <goddard> forever1: 11.10
[09:19] <Ririshi> Help! I just installed Lubuntu on a partition on my main HDD but it still starts Windows!
[09:20] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  a wubi install? or a normal full install
[09:20] <Ririshi> dr_willis: I installed from a LiLi USB Booter.
[09:20] <goddard> forever1: i want to use docky but still have the ubuntu button on docky
[09:21] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  sounds like it dident install grub to the MBR for some reason
[09:21] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> !info snort-mysql
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> interesting stuff
[09:24] <goddard> you like snort?
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> !info chkrootkit
[09:24] <forever1> goddard: just use the ubuntu software center to install the docking center and restart
[09:24]  * dr_willis snorts
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> like a pig
[09:25] <dr_willis> !info logwatch
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> is that in realtime?
[09:25] <dr_willis> it parese your log historys. so no
[09:26] <dr_willis> it shows who has been tying to ssh in to your box. :) and other neat infos
[09:26] <goddard> forever1:  already installed it but it doesn't have the "ubuntu button"
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> !info harden-environment
[09:27] <bazhang> lotuspsychje, /msg ubottu please
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> lol, NOTE! This package will not make your system uncrackable, and it is not intended to do so. Making your system secure involves a LOT more than just installing a package.
[09:27] <stefancrs> Hey, I'm trying to help a friend who's webserver goes down every sunday morning. I ssh'd into the machine and noticed that Lightthpd had been shut down due to a initiated system restart, which obviously never finished because everything else is still up and running. It's not initiated via a cronjob, what else can perform a scheduled reboot of the system?
[09:27] <stefancrs> (it's a vps)
[09:27] <Ririshi> dr_willis: Hello. I booted from my Lubuntu stick, what to do now?
[09:27] <forever1> goddard: thats odd, you will need to change it in the menu options
[09:28] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | Ririshi
[09:29] <goddard> forever1: nothing in menu options.. you use docky?
[09:29] <Ririshi> dr_willis: i have the following options: install lubuntu, check disc for defects, tedt memory, boot from first hard disc, rescue a broken system. Can't boot into live mode.
[09:30] <forever1> goddard:yes but everything worx on mine dr_willis: any idea's
[09:30] <goddard> forever1: everything works on mine just no "ubuntu button"
[09:30] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  try rescue broken system>
[09:30] <goddard> ill relog let me see
[09:30] <Ririshi> dr_willis: okay i will try.
[09:30] <forever1> goddard:ok
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: email reports are nice in logwatch cool!
[09:33] <dr_willis> i just use it for the ssh loging  reports to show me how many people have been trying to get in. :)
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: and many try?
[09:35] <Ririshi> dr_willis: it asks which thing i want to use for basicfilesystem?
[09:35] <dr_willis> and i use the various ip auto blacklsting  services -
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> sounds nice
[09:35] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  no idea all i can say is read along at that fixgrub url. I dont have the menus and revovery stuff meorized
[09:35] <Ririshi> Okay
[09:37] <snimavat> How do i switch off nvidia GT 525 M optimus card ? I dont need it at all at this time...
[09:37] <snimavat> I have dell XPS 502 X
[09:37] <dr_willis> bios settings perhaps snimavat >
[09:37] <dr_willis> Those dual GPU machines can be.. annoying and badly supported at times (for now)
[09:37] <snimavat> do u have any idea what is it called in dell xps ?
[09:38] <snimavat> the name of the setting ?
[09:38] <dr_willis> No idea. May not even hae the setting.
[09:39] <snimavat> Oh. i will checkout, is there any other way ?
[09:39] <dr_willis> theres the askubuntu and forum posts  that may have info.
[09:42] <Ririshi> dr_willis: I reïnstalled GRUB on the MBR and it still starts windows. Do i need to press a key-combi or something?
[09:43] <dr_willis> not normally Ririshi
[09:43] <dr_willis> if you got a spare flash drive you could isnatt grub to that
[09:43] <dr_willis> it could be windows or some av settings in bios undoing the grub install
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> isnt there a gui grub editor to set ubuntu as first boot?
[09:44] <Ririshi> dr_willis: Isnatt?
[09:44] <dr_willis> huh?
[09:44] <razorfish> lotuspsychje: isnt it easy enough to open the grub config with a notepad and drop ubuntu as the first entry?
[09:44] <dr_willis> theres various ways to reorder the grub entries.
[09:45] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  you dont even see the grub menu do you?
[09:45] <markyxxxz> Hello, has anybody here experienced losing the keyboard and/or touchpad from their laptops? It only happens on the current Ubuntu install. On Windows 7 or Live Ubuntu, both keyboard and touchpad works properly.
[09:45] <Ririshi> dr_willis: It doesn't show a menu. Just starts Windows 7..
[09:45] <forever1> markyxxxz:thats a driver problem you must update
[09:45] <goddard> forever1: nope restarting didn't add the ubuntu button
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> markyxxxz: maybe set BIOS keyboard and mouse to bios instead of Os
[09:46] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  so it sounds like  either the bios Might have some 'protect the bootloader' option. or some how grub is not getting installed,m or installed wrongly
[09:46] <markyxxxz> forever1: please be specific. I already re-intstalled the xserver-xorg-input packages
[09:46] <Ririshi> dr_willis: ill check bios.
[09:46] <markyxxxz> lotuspsychje: How is that done?
[09:46] <Ririshi> dr_willis: lol im only 13 xd
[09:47] <forever1> goddard:then you will have to open it from the termal alt-f2 and let the docky pick it up as a recently use app
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> markyxxxz: start the pc and press esc, del or f2 to enter BIOS, then search for the keyboard option (Os or BIOS) and set to bios
[09:48] <markyxxxz> lotuspsychje:You meant go to BIOS then set it there? I"m not sure if my BIOS has that option.
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> markyxxxz: its worth a try
[09:48] <forever1> markyxxxz: think about it on ubuntu live it uses generic and on ubuntu install it finds drivers, so you need to to revert
[09:49] <markyxxxz> lotuspsychje: Ok. That's weird. I never touched my BIOS. What i did was tried AMD Catalyst 12.1. It worked. Then when I restarted, that's when everything got screwed.
[09:49] <forever1> back to generic
[09:49] <forever1> g2g :)
[09:50] <markyxxxz> so I deleted all fglrx* related packages like I'ev done countless times in the past. Never had this issue of losing keyboard, mouse or touchapd. Thisis the first time.
[09:50] <dr_willis> the askubuntu.com site had some info on using the newer catalyst drivers
[09:50] <dr_willis> i had to use them the other day to get unity workng on this box
[09:50] <Stereocaulon> Does anyone know how to map a special key (I have utility keys on top of my keyboard) to the Zenkaku key present on Japanese keyboards?
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> !jp
[09:50] <markyxxxz> dr_willis: Link please? Really 12.1 worked on my hybrid ATI+intel but after reboot got screwed. So no go there. It was a temporary joy for me and now it's a nightmare LL
[09:50] <markyxxxz> LOL*
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> maybe jp chan will know?
[09:51] <Stereocaulon> lotuspsychje, thanks for the tip, I'm already logged in there, but it is kind of quiet there...
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> !ati | markyxxxz
[09:52] <markyxxxz> lotuspsychje: Oh, I've read those. Thanks nonetheless. :)
[09:52] <jasonmsp> hey all.  Im running natty, i live overseas (the middle east) and in my web browser (friefox) the default language keeps switching back to arabic.  The settings in firefox tell it to use english so I think this is an ubuntu issue.  My google searches are coming up empty and telling me to do things ive already tried.
[09:52] <dr_willis> markyxxxz:  cant find it. it was on askubuntu.com
[09:52] <dr_willis> markyxxxz:  hybrid is a whole nother area of problems
[09:53] <markyxxxz> dr_willis: Was it for the latest - 12.1? Two sites already confirms 12.1 works for Hybrid ATI+Intel graphics.
[09:53] <markyxxxz> I think on Phoronix and Linux Hybrid Blogspot
[09:54] <Ririshi> dr_willis: I checked bios
[09:54] <markyxxxz> jasonmsp: I think there is a firefox language add-on you might have to change. I remember that getting installed whenever I update Firefox.
[09:54] <dr_willis> markyxxxz:  the gide i followed i think installed the latest from the amd site
[09:54] <dr_willis> catalyst11.12  is what i got going
[09:55] <markyxxxz> dr_willis: That is Hybrid yes?
[09:55] <Ririshi> dr_willis: still starts windows. How to put grub on a flash?
[09:55] <dr_willis> fglrx_8.920-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[09:55] <dr_willis> i have no idea on hybrid
[09:55] <travmon> Ririshi: partedmagic has good tools from extras menu that should get you back in your system
[09:55] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  insert flash, determind the /dev/sdXX name of the flash use the same tools/commands to install grub to that /dev/sdXXX
[09:55] <Ririshi> travmon: what? Linux newb
[09:55] <markyxxxz> dr_willis: Ayt.  Just want myk keyboard and touchpad working again. :(
[09:55] <markyxxxz> ehehhe
[09:56] <travmon> !partedmagic
[09:56] <travmon> Ririshi: http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=downloads
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> try the info trigger travmon
[09:56] <Ririshi> dr_willis: how to know what /dev/sdXX my flash is?
[09:57] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  plug it in.. look at dmesg output. or sudo fdisk -l  output
[09:57] <Stereocaulon> Ririshi, just perform a sudo fdisk -l -h
[09:57] <dr_willis> markyxxxz:  guide i followed was --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/62808/ati-incompatible-with-gnome-shell
[09:57] <dr_willis> markyxxxz:  i still cant get gnome-shell working right.
[09:58] <Jordan_U> Ririshi: Do you have more than one internal drive?
[09:58] <markyxxxz> dr_willis: Yeah I hear fglrc is bad on gS
[09:58] <Ririshi> Stereocaulon: dr_willis: Should I start the terminal from the USB LiLi installer?
[09:58] <markyxxxz> ok... later guys ;)
[09:59] <Stereocaulon> Ririshi, yes that seems sensible.
[09:59] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  how have you been trying to reinstall grub? You do it the same way but install grub to a flash drive instead of the hard drive.. could be yuve been doing somthing wrong.
[09:59] <Ririshi> Jordan_U: Yes I do, but I can't start my WInXP. I don't know why. I normally use Win7
[10:00]  * dr_willis dosent really trust LiLi very mich.
[10:01] <Jordan_U> Ririshi: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[10:01] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Ririshi
[10:01] <Stereocaulon> brb
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: did you try another distro with gnome-shell as default to test?
[10:02] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  nope. I just have this one amd/ati box.  It wouldent even do unity, or gnome shell by default - the fglrx drivers in the repos had issues also.. tried the ones following that guide. unity works.. g-s semi-works has graphic curruption all the time in differnt areas
[10:03] <Ririshi> Jordan_U how should I run it? From the USB loader?
[10:03] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  from what i gather theres kernel 3.x and fglrx issues.
[10:03] <Jordan_U> Ririshi: Yes.
[10:04] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  err.. how else could you run it? you just have the one bootable usb drive?
[10:04] <Ririshi> Jordan_U may I have a command? dr_willis: Yeah, only that. And a windows system xd
[10:05] <dr_willis> there is that grub repair tool that you can intall from the live cd - to help fix grub. but i cant recall the url. It may be at that fixgrub wiki page.
[10:05] <Jordan_U> Ririshi: See the guide linked to you by ubottu.
[10:05] <dr_willis> i tend to always make a spare usb with grub for each pc. :) so i rarely need to repair it
[10:06] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[10:06] <dr_willis> 'boot repair' thats it. :) gotta love it.. needs to be on the default intalls/cds
[10:06] <Ririshi> dr_willis: You don't get it.. I try to install Lubuntu. No live Start is possible..
[10:07] <Ririshi> dr_willis: is that normal? XD
[10:08] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  never noticed.  thoguht there was a 'try' and 'install' and 'repair' options
[10:08] <Ririshi> dr_willis: wait.. I downloaded the alternate amd64
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> anyway im out fellas
[10:08] <dr_willis> the alt-cd is a text only installer....
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> tnx for an interesting chat
[10:09] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  you may want to just get that 'boot-repair-disk'  mentioned at the fixgrub url and use it
[10:09] <dr_willis> or try installing using a normal desktop cd
[10:10] <SteM> hi all, i'0m trying to update 11.04 to 11.10 by CD but it doesn't make me select 'upgrate 11.04 to 11.10'. Why ?
[10:10] <dr_willis> SteM:  yo have the desktop cd? or the alt-installer cd?
[10:11] <Ririshi> dr_willis: God lol i need to wait 4 hours again... Slow download speeds...
[10:11] <SteM> i think desktop cd, but i downloaded it a month ago ..
[10:11] <aBound> Ririshi, On dial-up? :P
[10:11] <dr_willis> SteM:  the desktop cd does not support that feature as far as i know. Only the alt-cd does
[10:12] <Ririshi> aBound: DSL modem should have about 4Mbit but only have 160Kbyte
[10:12] <SteM> desktop cd allow me only an installation from the scratch ?
[10:12] <aBound> The alternative Ubuntu iso image is more suited if you want a customized version of Ubuntu.
[10:12] <dr_willis> SteM:  it does not function as a repository for updateing.. correct.  Unless theres been changes to it.
[10:12] <Ririshi> aBound: they can't give us more, because we're at the end of the line or sthZz
[10:12] <Ririshi> ..*
[10:13] <SteM> thanks
[10:13] <aBound> Ririshi, I used to have that kind of speed but with DSL usually the higher you pay the more speed you get.
[10:13] <Jordan_U> Ririshi: If you want something automated and small (less than 2 MiB) that will allow you to boot your Ubuntu install you may want to try Super GRUB2 Disk.
[10:13] <dr_willis> i got so much speed now.. i used up my 250gb quota in a week... :)
[10:14] <Ririshi> Jordan_U okay
[10:15] <aBound> dr_willis, HA! Sounds like you had fun.
[10:15] <dr_willis> kids did watching netflix.. :)
[10:15] <aBound> hehe
[10:15] <dr_willis> 'Honest i did not do any torrenting....' :)
[10:16] <aBound> :P
[10:16] <isotta> #ubuntu.it
[10:16] <aBound> Torrenting is completely legitimate given some Linux ISOs are hosted on it.
[10:16] <dr_willis> that boot-repair tool is really.. getting impressive
[10:16] <Ririshi> How do I get the iso on my USB?
[10:16] <dr_willis> They need to make a mini-iso with it on there.
[10:16] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[10:16] <Ririshi> (Super GRUB2 Disc)
[10:17] <bazhang> Ririshi, with what tool
[10:17] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  use unetbootin, or tools from pendrivelinux, or other tools
[10:17] <Ririshi> dr_willis: okay
[10:17] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  i tend to use the stuff from Pendrivelinux, i dont care for 'LiLi'
[10:17] <aBound> Ririshi, If you aren't already using Ubuntu there's: Start Up Disk Creator.
[10:17] <dr_willis> unetbootin was problematic for me last year.. i hear its gotten better these days
[10:17] <Ririshi> dr_willis: I mean the ISO for Super GRUB2 Disc.
[10:18] <dr_willis> I dont use supergrub2 so no idea.. pendrivelinux tools most likely can do it
[10:18] <dr_willis> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[10:18] <kaipreshaw> hello is there a way for ubuntu 11.04 to stop killing my wifi app
[10:20] <pk> hi all i have problem in starting dhcp server
[10:20] <kaipreshaw> hello is there a way for ubuntu 11.04 to stop killing my wifi app it kills it as i put my laptops lid down
[10:20] <snimavat> I am planning to dual boot with windows 7, should i create additional partition before i start ubuntu installation, or should i just do the partition when installer asks for it.
[10:21] <snimavat> Any other suggestions ?
[10:21] <skilz> kaipreshaw, Thats because your computer is going to sleep/hibernate I *assume*...
[10:21] <kaipreshaw> skilz it locks as i put it down
[10:21] <skilz> snimavat, Just start the Ubuntu installation, you can do all the partitioning in there
[10:21] <pk> this is the problem of dhcp
[10:22] <pk> http://pastebin.com/185f7j15
[10:22] <snimavat> great.. any other suggestions/recommendation for dual booting with win7 ?
[10:22] <moes> I am using k3b in Ubuntu 10.04...I cannot erase/format a cd/rw disc..getting error "cdrecord has no permisson to open device"
[10:22] <pk> when i start it shows the following message in syslog http://pastebin.com/185f7j15
[10:23] <skilz> kaipreshaw, sudo apt-get install xfce4-power-manager | You can configure your power settings how you like.
[10:23] <kaipreshaw> skilz thanks dude
[10:23] <skilz> snimavat, Easy as 1, 2, 3.
[10:23] <skilz> kaipreshaw, np
[10:24] <snimavat> skilz: shoudl i defrag drives before i proceed for installation ?
[10:24] <pk> anybody repond to dhcp problem please
[10:25] <isotta> 	#cm-plus
[10:26] <Ririshi> dr_willis: installing Super GRUB2 Disc to USB now
[10:26] <pk> dhcp server problem
[10:26] <pk> please
[10:26] <dr_willis> i cant recall ever using superfrub2 disk :)
[10:26] <pk> http://pastebin.com/185f7j15
[10:26] <Ririshi> I'll try starting now. see you soon.
 do you know how to solve dhcp server start problem
[10:27] <pk> http://pastebin.com/185f7j15
[10:27] <overclucker> Ririshi: sgd2 installs in unetbootin
[10:28] <yumbo> How can I set permissions for directories like I do for files? (i.e. chmod 774 -R /dir)
[10:28] <llutz> yumbo: same , man chmod
[10:29] <yumbo> llutz, tbh I didn't found it there
 DHCP server problem
[10:29] <bazhang> !helpme | pk
[10:29] <llutz> yumbo: it makes no difference if you chmod a file or a directory, syntax is always the same
[10:30] <llutz> yumbo: just options like -R make no sense on files
[10:30] <kaipreshaw> skilz it said that it cant find it
[10:30] <yumbo> llutz, when I did a chmod 774 -R on a dir, every file within that dir became r/w/x for user and group, but only listing for others
[10:31] <yumbo> llutz, so I couldn't access the files with an "other" user
[10:31] <llutz> !permissions| yumbo: yes? read man chmod again
[10:31] <llutz> yumbo: you need to learn what "x - executable" bit does on dirs
[10:32] <skilz> kaipreshaw, Do may have to add more sources
[10:32] <yumbo> llutz, it allows it to traverse
[10:32] <skilz> just google for the package name I told you and you will find the source list
[10:32] <yumbo> llutz, but I don't see a way to set only x on dirs (not files) ?
[10:33] <pk> DHCP server failed to start
[10:33] <kaipreshaw> skilz, how ? will it mess up my source that im on?
[10:33] <llutz> yumbo: again and again "man chmod", read about "X" uppercase X
[10:33] <bazhang> pk patience
[10:33] <skilz> kaipreshaw, You can copy my sources.list if you like, one sec
[10:33] <kaipreshaw> skilz, im not used to 11.04
[10:34] <dr_willis> Jan 29 15:41:41 kickseed dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
[10:34] <llutz> yumbo: it's something you can't do easily with octal-notation
 okkk
[10:34] <dr_willis> pk:  so... configure it to listen on an interface.
[10:34] <overclucker> yumbo: use find dirname -type d -exec chmod PERMS {} \;
[10:34] <skilz> kaipreshaw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/821059/
[10:35] <yumbo> llutz, ah, I found it buried is some example in the manpage
[10:35] <yumbo> llutz, so all I need to do is "chmod 774 -R /dir && chmod +X -R /dir" ?
[10:36] <kaipreshaw> skilz,  thanks
[10:36] <moes> I am using k3b in Ubuntu 10.04...I cannot erase/format a cd/rw disc..getting error "cdrecord has no permisson to open device"
[10:37] <dr_willis> moes:  check the k3b setup/settings - it may be some permissions are not et right on the cd devices
[10:38] <Ririshi> Hey, I am back. I tried to start it, but it didn't work. I am going to burn the Super GRUB2 Disc onto a CD
[10:38] <moes> dr_willis, Checked the permissions and they read 666.root cdrom
[10:39] <dr_willis> moes:  i recall in the k3b menus/settings some configuration wizard that may tell you if snything is not set right
 this is my configuration file i hav econfigured it properlyhttp://pastebin.com/m4ydhpqY
 http://pastebin.com/m4ydhpqY
 i configured it on eth1 to listen on <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:44] <lessless> anybody aware how to run programs with other user id? ALT+F2 -> gksu -u www-data geany show nothing :(
[10:44] <moes> dr_willis, In k3b setting it list cdrecord 1.1.10 /usr/bin/wodin permissions 4711 root.root new permissions no change
[10:45] <S-I4> Is it possible to get tax deductions for donations made to ubuntu?
[10:45] <pksadiq> pk: check ps aux | grep dhcp  and stop/kill all process using that, also stop/kill named if running, (this might disconnect you from internet) and try restarting dhcpd3 or whatever
[10:47] <pk> <pk sadiq> root      1020  0.0  0.0   3712   788 pts/0    S+   16:17   0:00 grep --color=auto dhcp
[10:48] <pk> this is response
[10:48] <skilz> pk, You can just use pgrep appname

[10:48] <greenit> hi, i have a problem with vlc... according to the internet it should work to open youtube-videos with vlc... however, when i select "open network-stream" and enter the address of the video, vlc says that it can't open it... does any1 know how to get it working?
[10:48] <pksadiq> pk: and what about ps aux | grep named     ?
 root      1020  0.0  0.0   3712   788 pts/0    S+   16:17   0:00 grep --color=auto dhcp
 response of your command
[10:49] <pksadiq> pk: what about ps aux | grep named
[10:49] <pk> pksadiq: root      1020  0.0  0.0   3712   788 pts/0    S+   16:17   0:00 grep --color=auto dhcp
[10:49] <pksadiq> pk: see grep *named* , did you do that?
[10:49] <dr_willis> no need topaste the ps command showing the grep command. :)
[10:50] <m4k> after minimalist installation i tried to install gui from ubuntu-alternate-11.10 cd. When try to install metacity that install other packages too. How i install pure metacity
[10:50] <DevSoul> [Automato Mhnuma]: hello ti kanete
[10:50] <pk> pksadiq:bind       672  0.0  0.5  70800 10852 ?        Ssl  15:27   0:00 /usr/sbin/named -u bind root      1022  0.0  0.0   3712   784 pts/0    S+   16:20   0:00 grep --color=auto named
[10:50] <pk> this is th response pksadiq:
[10:51] <pksadiq> pk: hm kill that then try to start dhcp again
[10:51] <dr_willis> m4k:  if metacity depends on othe rpackages. it will pull them in. why do you want just 'metacity' its a very bare bones wm.
[10:51] <pk> pksadiq: how to kill it
[10:51] <pk> tell me the command
[10:51] <pk>  pksadiq:
[10:52] <m4k> dr_willis:my system is old
[10:52] <pksadiq> pk: try sudo killall named
[10:52] <dr_willis> m4k:  you would be better off not using just 'metacity' if you want a minimal window manager. try jwm or icewm
[10:52] <pksadiq> pk: you might get disconnected from internet
[10:53] <m4k> dr_willis: how to download that
[10:53] <pk> pksadiq: this is all for an another computer
[10:53] <dr_willis> m4k:  its in the repos.
[10:53] <dr_willis> !info jwm
[10:53] <dr_willis> 'pure X11' = wont need the gtk or other larger libs
[10:53] <pk> pkasdiq: no error message displayed i think it executed perfectly
[10:54] <pk> pksadiq: next what should i do?
[10:54] <m4k> dr_willis: in my system no internet. So how i download packages with all dependencies
[10:54] <cristoff20> #peb.pl
[10:54] <dr_willis> m4k:  no idea  - i never do it that way.
[10:55] <andai> Hello #ubuntu. I'm considering buying two high quality SSDs ( read/write both 500 mbps ) and doing a software RAID 0 on them ( just for fun ). At this speed, I imagine the load on my CPU would be incredibly heavy? Am I right for imagining this? Should I also get a quad core processor while I'm at it?
[10:55] <pksadiq> pk: try starting dhcp, btw, I used dnsmasq to do the same when I had to run pxeboot
[10:55] <m4k> How to download a package with all dependencies
[10:55] <aBound> andai, I'd get a quad-core I don't see a reason not too.
[10:56] <dr_willis> andai:  for the price - you may be better off getting more cpu and holding off on a 2nd hd..
[10:56] <dr_willis> performance vs budget :)
[10:56] <andai> dr_willis: Actually both drives are about 60 euro... i might be better off just not-raiding them
[10:56] <andai> lol
[10:56] <andai> just using software backups of my important stuff
[10:56] <dr_willis> 60 euro is rahter cheap isentit?
[10:57] <pk> pksadiq: same message in syslog which i posted earlier
[10:57] <pksadiq> pk: try using dnsmasq
[10:58] <pk> pksadiq: what is the command
[10:58] <andai> Dr_Willis: oh my bad, 80 euro. For 170e I can get a 128GB drive (r535 / w170) and for 80e I can get one 60GB drive (r535 / w480)
[10:58] <andai> Dr_Willis: Basically what I'm asking is if the CPU overhead of RAID 0 at such high speeds would make the computer unusably slow (thus defeating the original purpose of the RAID 0 setup )
[10:59] <pksadiq> pk: sudo apt-get install dnsmasq          configure it and run sudo dnsmasq
[10:59] <dr_willis> andai:  ive never heard of it being an issue.
[10:59] <m4k> How to download a package with all dependencies
[10:59] <dr_willis> hd speeds are alwyas the biggest bottleneck - even with ssd's i hear
[10:59] <pk> pksadiq:how to configure it
[10:59] <dr_willis> !aptoncd | m4k
[11:01] <rigved> m4k: or you could use the command: sudo apt-get install --download-only <package-name>
[11:01] <aasasd> Is there a way to insert dots instead of spaces in gedit?
[11:01] <andai> dr_willis: Ok thanks
[11:01] <pksadiq> pk: edit /etc/dnsmasq.conf  I had only experience with pxeboot, nothing more
[11:02] <pk> i also want to boot another computer through this computer with dhcp
[11:02] <pk> i mean pxe boot
[11:02] <pk> sksadiq:
[11:03] <pksadiq> pk: good, so let me try to post my configurations for you
[11:04] <greenit> plz help :S    i use the youtube-lens for unity, but when i click a video, it opens vlc and vlc says that it can't open the video
[11:05] <yumbo> overclucker, thanks, but I did it like this in the end: find "$dir2" -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 775
[11:05] <pk> skadiq: i cant see dnsmasq.conf in etc
[11:05] <pk> sasadiq:i cant see dnsmasq.conf in etc
[11:06] <pksadiq> pk: my dnsmasq.conf file: http://pastebin.com/CJ0EmCiT
[11:06] <pk> sksadiq:i cant see dnsmasq.conf in etc
[11:06] <aBound> greenit, Figures if it isn't in the Official repository we can't do much helpwise.
[11:06] <greenit> aBound, i think it's a problem of vlc, and this is in the official repos
[11:07] <aBound> I'm referring to youtube-lenses.
[11:07] <aBound> :P
[11:07] <greenit> aBound, true, but i tried to open a youtube-video with vlc without the lens and it displays the same error
[11:07] <aBound> Seeing as Youtube-Lenses has to be fetched from a unofficial PPA.
[11:07] <pksadiq> pk: and my /etc/network/interfaces file http://pastebin.com/PwNz3DLU
[11:08] <aBound> greenit, Any form of VLC plugin installed to view the videos?
[11:08] <greenit> aBound, nope, i just installed vlc... do i have to install a plugin?
[11:09] <aBound> greenit, I can't say but if it's loading VLC as it's default player. Figures, it'll need a VLC plugin for Firefox.
[11:10] <aBound> I don't use youtube-lenses I can't comment much on that aspect. But if you'd like to try you can install the Mozilla plugin for VLC in the Software Center.
[11:10] <greenit> aBound, i enter the url in the "open network-stream..." dialogue of vlc, then it says that it can't determine the format of the video...
[11:11] <greenit> aBound, so it doesn't open when i just click on a youtube-video in firefo
[11:11] <greenit> x
[11:11] <bjarni> Hello everyone.  Can someone help me with postgresql.  Cant get it to work properly after upgrade
[11:12] <aBound> greenit, I don't think the youtube URL is meant for the "Open Network Stream".
[11:12] <pk> pksadiq: now i have copied the conf files
[11:12] <ikonia> define can't it it to work
[11:12] <greenit> aBound, oh, ok... i just did it because a tutorial on a website said this is the way to open youtube-vids with vlc
[11:14] <omer> having trouble configuring bluetooth. Ralink Motorola BC4 Bluetooth 3.0+HS Adapter. anyone?
[11:14] <aBound> greenit, Not a fan of tutorials they can be poorly written or misleading. At times they can be useful but if you're learning programming or something else best to stick too a book.
[11:14] <pksadiq> pk: now try to start  sudo dnsmasq        and try to boot the other computer
[11:15] <ilpollo> hi, please the spanish chanel tanks
[11:15] <ikonia> #ubuntu-es
[11:15] <ikonia> !es | ilpollo
[11:16] <greenit> aBound, hm... ok, one last question: do you know the path of the lua-directory of vlc in ubuntu?
[11:17] <aBound> greenit, Though it does show a URL of youtube in Open Network Stream doesn't seem like anything is playing.
[11:17] <omer> Hi. I'm having trouble configuring bluetooth. Ralink Motorola BC4 Bluetooth 3.0+HS Adapter. anyone?
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> greenit  try locate lua
[11:18] <aasasd> Is there a way to insert dots instead of spaces in gedit?
[11:18] <dr_willis> aasasd:  why do you want to?
[11:18] <aBound> greenit, Not that I know of.
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> aasasd  in an existing text, you can replace spaces with the 'sed' (stream editor)
[11:19] <aBound> greenit, I assume this is it: /usr/share/vlc/lua
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> the 'sed' command*
[11:19] <aBound> greenit, But than again this could be it too: /etc/vlc/lua
[11:19] <aasasd> dr_willis: It shows indentation more clearly.
[11:20] <dr_willis> aasasd:  the fte and other text editors have ways to show 'whitespace' with special characters
[11:20] <dr_willis> aasasd:  i think fte and geany both can do it.
[11:20] <aasasd> I'm talking about gedit
[11:20] <dr_willis> check the gedit plugins i suggest then
[11:21] <dr_willis> gedit is rather basic compared to other text editors out there
[11:21] <dr_willis> they may have a 'show whitespace' settings/plugin
[11:22] <codepal> yole! what does cotendo.net have to do with ubuntu?
[11:22] <dr_willis> codepal:  never heard of it
[11:23] <codepal> content delivery network -- it's running stuff in the background for Ubuntu 12.04
[11:23] <codepal> apparently Akamai bought them out
[11:23] <juho> shot games for upuntu
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> "An innovator of cloud-based acceleration technologies, Cotendo offers an integrated suite of Web and Mobile Acceleration Services from its 30 global distributed point of presence (POPs). "
[11:23] <juho> ?????
[11:23] <codepal> so, yeha, I wanna know why it's connected to MY MACHINE!
[11:24] <juho> :D
[11:24] <dr_willis> they are acellerating your cloud!
[11:24] <codepal> I'm taking this up with jono, hey jono! you in the room?
[11:24] <codepal> Ubuntu One?
[11:24] <codepal> your kiddin?
[11:25] <dr_willis> 'An innovator of cloud-based acceleration'   - whatever that means....
[11:25] <codepal> my cloud is accellerated enough
[11:25] <codepal> ffs
[11:25] <aBound> Dropbox?
[11:25] <codepal> nope
[11:26] <codepal> this is a almost clean install of Ubuntu "Precison" 12
[11:26] <aBound> I think it's time for me to hit the sack. Night all. :P
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> codepal  ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:26] <codepal> MonkeyDust, done dat already :P
[11:27] <codepal> everyone's still wakin up in USA, obviously...
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> "dat" is dutch, you dutch?
[11:28] <codepal> nope
[11:28] <codepal> ok, thanks, bye
[11:31] <Guest11872> Hi! I want to dual boot my PC by installing Windows and Ubuntu on totally seperate partitions of same HDD. Need help!
[11:32] <dr_willis> Guest11872:  thats how its normally done.
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> Guest11872  first win, then linux, or your grub will be ruined
[11:33] <dr_willis> Guest11872:  also wats your current hard drive partioning layout If you have 4 primary partitios - it can  cause issues
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> Guest11872  read this http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[11:39] <Ron-ff> hi and peace agin, i'm looking for a web forum or chat without registration to ask about buying stuff and more. any help with that?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> Ron-ff  define "stuff and more"
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> ah buying
[11:40] <Ron-ff> yeah
[11:40] <Ron-ff> any forum which is friendly or chat?
[11:40] <Ben64> try reddit
[11:40] <dr_willis> buying what exactly?
[11:41] <Ron-ff> dr_willis: for examople. i men finger ring in neon color like yellow of blue
[11:42] <Ben64> i know all those words, but in that combination it doesn't make any sense
[11:42] <Ron-ff> Ben64: reddit???
[11:42] <dr_willis> Ben64:  :) i was thinking that also..
[11:42] <dr_willis> bbl
[11:42] <Ron-ff> ring for a finger which is in cool color like glowing yellow
[11:42] <dr_willis> You really need advice for such a trivial thing?
[11:43] <Ron-ff> probably not in existence
[11:43] <Ben64> try ebay then...
[11:43] <dr_willis> qvc.com :)
[11:43] <dr_willis> bye all..
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> or go to a market somewhere
[11:43] <Ron-ff> dr_willis: no such things was found at enbay
[11:43] <GR33N> h1 all
[11:43] <Ben64> etsy
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> Ron-ff  in a toystore maybe
[11:45] <Ron-ff> MonkeyDust: so anyway do you know of more forums (whch are friendly) or chat rooms here or somewhere else?
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> please Ron-ff this is an ubuntu support channel
[11:46] <Ron-ff> so you don't know of off topic channels?
[11:46] <oCean> !alis | Ron-ff
[11:51] <Industrial> I mounted a Linux disk volume from my SSD with this Ubuntu Live/Install CD (USB ISO) and I wanted to edit its etc/inittab but I can't save the file. I did the mounting with Disk Tool. How do I write that file?
[11:52] <pritam_baral> Industrial: you need to have opened the file as root. sudo gedit <mountpoint_of_ssd>/etc/inittab
[11:52] <Industrial> k
[11:53] <bastidrazor> pritam_baral: Industrial for graphical applications use 'gksudo' instead of sudo.
[11:55] <a-saint> hello guys I recently knew about gnome-shell extensions how do i install it in ubuntu
[11:55] <raven> hi
[11:55] <raven> do you know any great piano-synth?
[11:55] <shancial> Could someone walk me through installing a kernel module acpi_call? I've made 3 forum posts now and no one has helped.
[11:57] <pksadiq> raven: do you require midi piano or any sound synthesizer?
[11:57] <raven> pksadiq anything for midi-music production
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> raven  try rosegarden
[11:58] <pksadiq> !info rosegarden | raven
[11:58] <raven> MonkeyDust rosegarden is no synth but only a multitrack
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> ok
[11:59] <a-saint> someone .......  I recently knew about gnome-shell extensions how do i install it in ubuntu
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> raven  rather ask in #ubuntustudio
[12:00] <pksadiq> raven: what about vmpk?
[12:01] <raven> pksadiq could be userful tnxx
[12:02] <spectie> hello all
[12:02] <aasasd> hello fellow moronm
[12:02] <spectie> how can i install new themes in ubuntu for gnome
[12:02] <spectie> i installed gnome-themes
[12:03] <LjL> aasasd: that's not nice.
[12:03] <spectie> but the themes don't appear in the "Appearance" panel
[12:03] <spectie> LjL, well, at the moment it is quite accurate :)
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> spectie  you need gnome-tweak-tool
[12:04] <spectie> ok thanks
[12:05] <robinds> all of a sudden my ubuntu has changed language to some East-Asian language, how do I revert back to English?
[12:05] <aasasd> robinds: Try reinstalling it from the CD.
[12:06] <robinds> aasasd: Sure but isn't that like killing a mosqeeto with a sub machine gun?
[12:07] <aasasd> robinds: It's like killing a whale with a harpoon.
[12:07] <robinds> aasasd: ..oh wait, do you mean a complete reeinstall or just the language pack?
[12:07] <aasasd> robinds: Complete.
[12:07] <juho> voisitteko te antaa linkin jostain battlefieldistä mikä toimii upuntulla
[12:07] <robinds> wow - isn't there a more apt sollution?
[12:08] <juho> could you provide a link from a battlefield from what works upuntulla
[12:08] <aasasd> robinds: You could try just doing an upgrade.
[12:08] <Gentoo64> juho, battlefield?
[12:08] <ssta> robinds: system settings...language support
[12:08] <juho> yeah
[12:09] <juho> battlefield
[12:09] <Ben64> robinds: something like this - http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/
[12:09] <Gentoo64> juho, you mean what battlefield game works on uubntu?
[12:09] <robinds> ssta sure, but it's all in mandarin or something completely unfamiliar
[12:09] <aasasd> juho: Try typing "/join 0".
[12:10] <juho> ok
[12:10] <bastidrazor> aasasd: you're just being silly.
[12:11] <robinds> Ben64: I did find that link on my own - it's not helping because everything is in a non roman language - including the language names
[12:11] <robinds> I need to do it through apt
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> " 0: No such channel"
[12:11] <ssta> robinds: try running language-selector from a cli
[12:11] <BenSprz> trying to install ubuntu from live cd it stops at the repartitioning (side by side install) what should i do?
[12:11] <Ben64> robinds: what language is it in
[12:12] <ssta> might not be the right command though
[12:12] <robinds> Ben64: dunno -- I could guess mandarin or cantoneese
[12:12] <Ben64> 英语 = English
[12:13] <robinds> Ben64: Different languages spoken in China
[12:13] <Ben64> in Japanese it is 英語
[12:14] <BenSprz> also, live cd does not find wireless network. any suggestions?
[12:15] <robinds> ssta: what is the command I need to run language-selector?
[12:16] <ssta> robinds: it used to be exactly that...they changed it all with 11.10 though when they added the "control panel" thingy.  I don't know now
[12:16] <Ben64> robinds: just do it in gui, its just a few clicks
[12:17] <nicolas__> nouveau utilisateur ravis !
[12:18] <robinds> Ben64: it would be a few clicks if I could read the foreign language, but I cannot read it. It's like someone took your phone and set the languagae to Martian..
[12:18] <BenSprz> kann mir jemand sagen warum bei installation (sidebyside) von live cd (10.04) sich der rechner immer bei der repartitionierung aufhängt und warum die live cd mein wireless network nicht erkennt? das wäre hilfreich
[12:18] <Ben64> robinds: i just told you what english is in chinese
[12:19] <BenSprz> hab schon versucht den treiber nachzuinstallieren, hat aber nicht geklappt
[12:19] <robinds> ssta my locale shows me LANGUAGE=zh_CN:en_US:en
[12:19] <pksadiq> robinds: try gnome-language-selector or something like that
[12:20] <Myrtti> !de | BenSprz
[12:20] <ssta> robinds: try editing ~/.config/user-dirs.locale to en_GB and log out and back in again
[12:20] <robinds> ssta: and LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE =zh_CN.UTF-8
[12:20] <robinds> ssta: sweet!
[12:20] <BenSprz> ok i posted in english before but to no avail...
[12:20] <ssta> robinds: I don't know if that will work, it's just a guess
[12:24] <^LoGiN^> anybody familiar with orchestra/juju ?
[12:25] <^LoGiN^> getting an error during bootstrap
[12:25] <^LoGiN^> 012-01-29 14:23:56,159 INFO Bootstrapping environment 'orchestra' (type: orchestra)...
[12:25] <^LoGiN^> Could not find any Cobbler systems marked as available and configured for network boot.
[12:25] <^LoGiN^> 2012-01-29 14:23:56,184 ERROR Could not find any Cobbler systems marked as available and configured for network boot.
[12:25] <robinds> ssta: no, but it's on the right track
[12:26] <robinds> what's the name of the login manager used in Oneiric?
[12:26] <ssta> lightdm by default I think
[12:26] <^LoGiN^> LightDM
[12:28] <hyppias> I want to run a ubuntu LAMP server from an SD card in a USB adapter. The machine is an Atom job, without (permanent) CD/CVC drive. What is the best way to get this live Ubuntu server on the (bootable) SD card?
[12:28] <varikonniemi> hello, is there anything like fraps for ubuntu
[12:28] <a-saint> hello guys am having problems installing the gnome shell extensions can someone point me to a solution
[12:29] <auronandace> varikonniemi: it might help to describe what fraps is
[12:29] <Ben64> hyppias: you can install it like normal
[12:29] <hyppias> a-saint: just ask.
[12:29] <Stereocaulon> varikonniemi, there is recordmydesktop or Istanbul
[12:29] <varikonniemi> auronandace, it is a software that can record a video of the game you are playing
[12:29] <Ben64> hyppias: it will be very very slow though
[12:30] <a-saint> hyppias I am unable to install the gnome shell extensions even that i have the new gnome
[12:30] <varikonniemi> Stereocaulon, istanbul seems not to be working, it has 1 star in software scenter. i must check out recordmydesktop
[12:30] <popey> varikonniemi: try kazam
[12:30] <popey> varikonniemi: most other screencasting tools are no longer under development, kazam is active.. http://launchpad.net/kazam
[12:30] <Stereocaulon> hyppias, install lots of ram so you can load the OS into a ramdisk.
[12:31] <a-saint> hyppias  apt-cache show gnome-shell | grep Version Version: 3.2.0-0ubuntu1 Version: 3.2.1-0ubuntu1.1
[12:31] <Stereocaulon> hyppias, into => onto
[12:31] <anachronist> test
[12:32] <hyppias> Stereocaulon: yes, but then how to get it in RAM. Also, my system is meant to be low power. Now it's at 20W or so.
[12:32] <auronandace> !test | anachronist
[12:32] <Lerg> Howdy
[12:32] <Stereocaulon> varikonniemi, I get good results with Istanbul. I did not record any games though.
[12:32] <a-saint> hyppias when i open the link https://extensions.gnome.org/     I get this error You do not appear to have an up to date version of GNOME3. You won't be able to install extensions from here. See the about page for more information
[12:35] <varikonniemi> popey, thanks! it will test it out
[12:35] <hyppias> a-saint: yes. and?
[12:35] <a-saint> hyppias when i go to http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/   and choose the ubuntu install and it opens in update manager I choose install this is what i get : http://paste.ubuntu.com/821166/
[12:36] <a-saint> hyppias the list is from the details drop menu
[12:37] <ssta> a-saint: why aren't you installing it from the standard repository?
[12:37] <a-saint> ssta as in apt-get install gnome-shell extensions
[12:38] <hyppias> a-saint: yeah. that's the usual way to get stuff
[12:38] <ssta> uggh, who designed that mechanism for getting packages?
[12:39] <ssta> a-saint: yeah, like that
[12:39] <ssta> spawning apt-get from a web browser...that's a REALLY bad idea imo.
[12:40] <a-saint> ssta hyppias do you know if this exactly the command i need to execute
[12:40] <a-saint> or doi google it
[12:41] <ssta> !notunity | a-saint
[12:41] <phw> Is there a way to save colored output into a rtf/html/latex file?
[12:42] <ssta> phw: umm, can you rephrase the question?  All three formats support colour, I'm not sure what you're asking exactly
[12:42] <phw> ssta: output from a commandline tool; i need to convert the colored output into something like rtf;
[12:43] <phw> ssta: of course i can just redirect the output of the application into a file, but then i have a textfile including color codes; yet my applications can obviously not do anything with those
[12:43]  * UD98 is
[12:44] <FlySoftiii> I'm new at Linux. but I think I found a bug. I own an ASUS T101MT, with an touchscreen. If a draw with my pen an Rectangle on the desktop (for marking files) and a second finger touches the screen, the touchscreen simply dosen't work anymore.
[12:44] <UD98> hmm... sounds like a bug to me
[12:44] <stamina> hey ubontu
[12:45] <ssta> phw: phw you want something like ansi2html - I don't know if it's available in the ubuntu repositories or not
[12:46] <ssta> phw: http://search.cpan.org/~autrijus/HTML-FromANSI-1.01/script/ansi2html
[12:46] <dak0> hey
[12:47] <dak0> Anybody here
[12:47] <FlySoftiii> Is my problem a known issue? Or shall I write an bug report?
[12:47] <ssta> FlySoftiii: it's not so much a bog as it is a consequence of the way touchscreens work
[12:48] <dak0>           NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86_64 (290.10)
[12:48] <FlySoftiii> ssta: No, under windows i can user two fingers.
[12:48] <dak0>
[12:48] <dak0>   ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[12:48] <dak0>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[12:48] <dak0>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[12:48] <dak0>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[12:48] <dak0>                                        OK
[12:48] <dak0> I`m trying to install lastest driver
[12:48] <FloodBot1> dak0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:48] <FlySoftiii> And the touchscreen simply dosen't work after I used two fingers. Not even one finger. Afert restarting everything is normal
[12:49] <dak0> Hello guys do you know how can i solve my problem ?
[12:49] <ssta> FlySoftiii: hmm, guess it's a bug then
[12:49] <FlySoftiii> ssta: So I should report it?
[12:50] <ssta> FlySoftiii: yeah, probably
[12:50] <Guest82094> hey anyone knows a good video player?
[12:50] <dak0> SM player or VLC
[12:50] <Guest82094> ok ty
[12:50] <hyppias> is there some package to manage a server (LAMP, FTP) remotely via browsers?
[12:50] <ssta> dak0: why not use the nvidia driver available in ubuntu already?
[12:50] <FlySoftiii> ssta: If I have time, I'll do. Thank you... Is there a list with known bugs?
[12:50] <dak0> Beacus its outdated
[12:50] <dak0> 170
[12:51] <dak0> lastest is 290
[12:51] <hyppias> Guest82094: Panasonic ?
[12:51] <ssta> FlySoftiii: not even sure what you'd file a bug against, but see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[12:51] <csabi_> hello somebody can help me i bought new sound card and i hear my voice in speaker it is echo problem i use ubuntu 11.04 and try setting the alsamixer and where i can setting that not hear my voice  in a speaker?? thanks..
[12:52] <_skpl> is that your best english?
[12:52] <ssta> dak0: if you install from an external source then it's assumed you can fix up whatever breaks.  Otherwise stick to the supported and tested versions in the repositories
[12:53] <dak0> I downloaded the driver from the Nvidia site
[12:53] <pangolin> dak0: the error tells you what to do. log out and then log back in text mode see /msg ubottu !nox and install the driver
[12:53] <ssta> dak0: yes, I know
[12:53] <vandal-> update manager throws "failed to download package files. check your internet connection". My connection is fine, how can i fix it?
[12:53] <dak0> vandal try few times
[12:54] <csabi_> somebody??
[12:54] <dak0> Pangolin thats a bit compilated to me
[12:54] <dak0> :D
[12:54] <vandal-> dak0, i did. id details i can see whole list like this: Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/software-properties/software-properties-gtk_<IP_ADDRESS>_all.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:54] <paranoidi> http://pastie.org/3275719 - how should I proceed ?
[12:54] <dak0> This is fresh install of Ubuntu, beacus i had problems with my dual monitor setup with older drivers, and i was forced to reinstall
[12:55] <pangolin> dak0: in that case I suggest you install the nvidia-current package that is available in the software center.
[12:55] <dak0> thats why i dont want to use the supported and outdated version of nvidia
[12:55] <ssta> vandal-: that mirror appears to be broken...I get a 404 as well
[12:55] <vandal-> how can i download from another mirror?
[12:56] <dak0> pangolin what version of nvidia driver do you use ?
[12:56] <ssta> vandal-: in the software centre settings there's a place where you can pick a mirror
[12:56] <pangolin> dak0: nvidia-current from the repositories
[12:56] <oCean> vandal-: ssta the mirror is not broken, the package is updated. Run  sudo apt-get update first
[12:56] <dak0> Number of the driver
[12:56] <dak0> can you please check ?
[12:56] <ssta> it's 173
[12:56] <ssta> which yes, is out of date somewhat
[12:56] <pangolin> dak0: nvidia-current:
[12:56] <pangolin>   Installed: 280.13-0ubuntu6
[12:57] <dak0> but pangolin driver isnt outdated as ours
[12:57] <dak0> its just one version
[12:57] <gaussblurinc> hello! is there any good rss-reader for lxde? ( simple and lightweight )
[12:57] <csabi_> hello somebody can help me i bought new sound card and i hear my voice in speaker it is echo problem i use ubuntu 11.04 and try setting the alsamixer and where i can setting that not hear my voice  in a speaker?? thanks..
[12:58] <a-saint> ssta hyppias I guess it's installed now
[12:58] <vandal-> gaussblurinc, i was using liferea for a while, wasnt bad.
[12:58] <a-saint> ssta hyppias thank you for your help
[12:59] <silversurfer_> i  cant get a webserver indtalled any  ideas
[12:59] <pangolin> !lamp
[12:59] <paranoidi> if I need to reinstall my ubuntu server I will not install ubuntu again, it rotted faster than windows 98
[12:59] <gaussblurinc> vandal-: thank you!
[13:00] <Somelauw> I don't get how evolution works. In my broswer I clicked a link send email. Then I typed my email in evolution and when I clicked send. Evolution just closed?
[13:00] <Somelauw> Is that normal behaviour?
[13:00] <pangolin> no
[13:01] <Hoyt> hi , is there anyone using Precise alpha ?
[13:01] <vandal-> gaussblurinc, tho i went back after a week to reader.google.com :P
[13:01] <oCean> Hoyt: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (still alpha). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[13:01] <hyppias> what is "ubuntu desktop USB" during installation?
[13:01] <Hoyt> thansk
[13:01] <Somelauw> If so, then this program *****
[13:01] <silversurfer_> how do i get a webserver in ubuntu?
[13:02] <hyppias> silversurfer: install apache
[13:02] <silversurfer_> k thx
[13:02] <vandal-> silversurfer_, xampp is extremely easy to install and configure already with mysql and phpmyadmin
[13:03] <Somelauw> But does it work that way?
[13:03] <pangolin> Somelauw: no that is not normal behaviour.
[13:03] <auronandace> !xampp | vandal-
[13:04] <Somelauw> I wait this **** program has put my message in one of its outboxes.
[13:04] <pangolin> Somelauw: no need to use *'s to replace swearing. Also no need for swearing.
[13:05] <gaussblurinc> vandal-: i prefer '''software''', not google's applets :)
[13:05] <nnx-t04d> wait u broke my moniter
[13:06] <nnx-t04d> darn
[13:06] <nnx-t04d> wrong channel again
[13:06] <Somelauw> gaussblurinc: I'll never use evince again
[13:06] <nnx-t04d>  oh well i might as well use this oppertunity
[13:06] <nnx-t04d> hi can i fix my moniter on ubuntu
[13:06] <nnx-t04d> my moniters wont werk
[13:06] <nnx-t04d> they are remotely stated around the globe
[13:06] <nnx-t04d>  i lost access to five of them
[13:06] <nnx-t04d> what may cause this??
[13:07] <alexdevillx> Well hello there
[13:07] <oCean> !enter | nnx-t04d
[13:07] <nnx-t04d> yeah u and ur punctuality
[13:07] <alexdevillx> I have a problem with Installing Canon LBP 3010
[13:07] <gaussblurinc> Somelauw: why not? is this so bad for you? ( and so, it's really bad :) )
[13:07] <auronandace> !u | nnx-t04d
[13:07] <nnx-t04d> shove that in the pie hole
[13:07] <alexdevillx> I get a ccp send_data error exit
[13:08] <alexdevillx> Hey!
[13:08] <BuLL_bull> fedora r u here?
[13:08] <LjL> BuLL_bull: doesn't seem so. /whois fedora
[13:09] <Somelauw> gaussblurinc: When I tell my email client to send stuff, I want it to send stuff immediately.
[13:09] <isotta> #LinuxMX-ITA
[13:09] <BuLL_bull> a friend's name...
[13:09] <aasasd> Somelauw: i dont
[13:09] <rref> hi is there a possibility  in ubuntu to say start process A after process A has finished start process B? I'm not sure if A;B will work
[13:09] <LjL> BuLL_bull: yes, i'm saying you can do /whois fedora to find out whether they're connected and in this channel. /query fedora to privately message them.
[13:09] <Somelauw> So what's the idea of not immediately sending stuff? What is the advantage?
[13:10] <LjL> rref: a; b seems correct to me
[13:10] <BuLL_bull> 0_0thank u~
[13:10] <aasasd> Somelauw: you can wait until offpeak time to preserve bandwidth
[13:10] <BuLL_bull> i'll try
[13:10] <rref> LjL: thank you
[13:10] <alexdevillx> Guys i have a problem with installing Canon LBP 3010 on ubuntu. I get this IDLE ccp send_data error, exit error while i'm trying to print something. I followed this manual.http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/linux/107893/
[13:11] <pangolin> Somelauw: Check your email clients settings and see if message are set to be sent immediately.
[13:13] <alexdevillx> Guys i have a problem with installing Canon LBP 3010 on ubuntu. I get this IDLE ccp send_data error, exit error while i'm trying to print something. I followed this manual.http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/linux/107893/
[13:13] <ilpollo> hi, i need the spanish chanel, thanks
[13:14] <BuLL_bull> 那你说话看看～
[13:14] <auronandace> !es | ilpollo
[13:14] <pangolin> !cn | BuLL_bull
[13:14] <alexdevillx> BuLL_bull, what should i look at? )))
[13:15] <BuLL_bull> = =what happend...
[13:15] <BuLL_bull> ok , i am sorry~
[13:16] <n0x> hi there
[13:16] <Stereocaulon> hi n0x
[13:17] <uween> help
[13:17] <uween>   vh
[13:17] <uween> gdgbvfvzb*
[13:17] <uween> arga
[13:17] <uween> bgrey
[13:17] <FloodBot1> uween: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:17] <uween> AVBA
[13:17] <Stereocaulon> !ask | uween
[13:17] <oCean> uween: stop please
[13:22] <LuvStrawberrys> Hi
[13:22] <LuvStrawberrys> There was created the first ubuntu virus.
[13:23] <jrib> LuvStrawberrys: do you have a support question?
[13:23] <LuvStrawberrys> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg4u7ko333U This worm can crash thousands ubuntu computers!
[13:25] <bucaneiro> bye LuvStrawberrys
[13:25] <mongy> ugh
[13:25] <cipherboy> Trolls
[13:26] <KevinLaptop> Alright, I wanted to remove ubuntu from my partitions on my desktop, and the other operating system I have is Windows 7. So from windows 7, I deleted all the ubuntu partitions, and now I'm not quite sure what to do next, it keeps going to grub rescue saying file not found
[13:26] <cipherboy> KevinLaptop: you need to reload Window's bootloader.
[13:26] <KevinLaptop> cipherboy: and how do I do that?
[13:27] <auronandace> KevinLaptop: you need to reinstall windows bootloader, ask in ##windows
[13:27] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, you can reload the Windows boatloader by starting a cmd from the Windows CD. After that, just type fdisk /f to restore the previous boot partition.
[13:28] <dak0> lol, you can get more Windows Help in #ubuntu channel instead of ubuntu help
[13:28] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, you can reload the Windows boatloader by starting a cmd from the Windows CD. After that, just type fdisk /mbr to restore the previous boot partition.
[13:28] <KevinLaptop> Stereocaulon: Alright, awesome, thanks. I'll try that
[13:29] <Scott_292> I have Windows on a partition /dev/sda1, when I installed it I used dd to create a copy of the partition. I want to reset windows to it's original state, are there any risks by using dd to copy from this file back to /dev/sda1? Obviously, I know about data loss, I mean boot up failures, etc.
[13:29] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/720866-how-can-i-restore-the-windows-7-bootloader/
[13:29] <Scott_292> Also is this the correct way to do it: gunzip -c sda1.img.gz | dd of=/dev/sda1 bs=512
[13:29] <KevinLaptop> dak0: they just ignored me anyways, windows sucks IMO I just use it for gaming :P installing anotherl linux distro once I can burn the disk from windows xD
[13:30] <dak0> What do you game?
[13:30] <pangolin> !ot
[13:30] <Stereocaulon> dak0, KevinLaptop, afaik Windows does not have a very active IRC channel </understatement> They are probably all on MSN...
[13:30] <auronandace> Scott_292: extract it then: sudo dd if=/path/to/img of=/dev/sda1 bs=512
[13:31] <KevinLaptop> dak0: gta, TF2, games like that :P
[13:31] <auronandace> Scott_292: make sure you are certain you got the right partitiom
[13:31] <dak0> You can game them on Linux with Wine
[13:31] <isotta>  Bot N.31
[13:31] <pangolin> Stereocaulon: ##windows is very active and helpful. if you wish to help with windows issues join that channel please
[13:32] <KevinLaptop> dak0: I never tried it really, because I thought it wouldn't run well with wine, but I'll give it a shot!
[13:32] <Stereocaulon> pangolin, no thanks, I haven't had any issues with Windows since I switched to linux in 1997 :-P
[13:32] <KevinLaptop> lmfao!
[13:32] <dak0> depends on your hardware
[13:32] <pangolin> cool, then lets get back to Ubuntu support and stay on topic.
[13:33] <cipherboy> Scott's question never got answered.
[13:33] <overclucker> Scott_292: that should work
[13:34] <Scott_292> thanks all
[13:34] <overclucker> since dd  is pipe aware
[13:38] <Scott_292> overclucker, yeah the man page says stdin is assumed if 'if' isn't used
[13:40] <cipherboy> Slow channel...
[13:41] <Skew-_^> hi
[13:42] <Stereocaulon> cipherboy, Slow channel?!.. #ubuntu, normally it is so fast I have to open up private channels in order to help someone efficiently.
[13:42] <Stereocaulon> cipherboy, but right now, yes not too many questions right now.
[13:43] <Skew-_^> iam thinking of buying a new laptop, maby a asus zenbook (ultrabook) or a acer ultrabook, i want it to run linux whitout to mutch hassle, and is it only ATI cards i shud look out fore that it dosent have, or what is the best laptop for linux?
[13:43] <fabiano> ?
[13:43] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, better look out for nVidia cards instead if you want do any 3D.
[13:43] <auronandace> Skew-_^: thinkpads are awesome, try to avoid switchable graphics
[13:44] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, nVida cards is bad for linux? i gotr truble whit my ati card ;S
[13:44] <auronandace> Skew-_^: nvidia cards are better supported
[13:45] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, nVidia cards bad for linux? Where did you get that silly idea?
[13:45] <Kayls> Yeah.
[13:45] <petsounds> Skew-_^: you might want to check out -> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[13:46] <buhman> hrm, interesting; I made changes to my grub.cfg, but when I try to start a VM from /dev/sda, I don't see the changes http://absdev.org/grub-qemu.png
[13:46] <buhman> (the casing of "fallback"/"Fallback")
[13:49] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, wass a question cuz i wrote is it only ATI cards i shud look out for that the computer dosent have and u sayd nVida :P
[13:50] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, I see, well you *did* ask for advice didn't you?
[13:51] <hyppias> during installation, I must specify a partitioning scheme. is that scheme saved somewhere on the destination disk?
[13:51] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, yes ;) and iam gonna turn away from ATI cards ;P only problem whit it, damn have u seen this? ASUS ZENBOOK UX31E RY012V - 13.3"
[13:51] <hyppias> 	 want to use the partitiong scheme in a preseed file
[13:52] <Segaja> hi, how can i tell apt-get in the config, that i don't want to install recommendet packages?
[13:52] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, it looks like pretty precise Macbook pro ripoff...
[13:53] <pangolin> Segaja: edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and add a line like: APT::Install-Recommends "false";
[13:53] <Skew-_^> sure but its sexy, i think thinkpad looks like it have allways done the last 20years
[13:53] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, When I look up the specs I see Intel Graphics. Well, for 2D graphics those chips are actually really good.
[13:55] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, :) when u talk about 3D graphics you meen like 3D movies and 3D games whit glasses?
[13:55] <Segaja> pangolin: i don't have this file
[13:55] <pangolin> Segaja: create it
[13:55] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, well...Thinkpads tend to be mostly intact when you drop them. I'm not so sure about this one. Your data will probably be safe, because it's an SSD. but the rest...
[13:55] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, no, I talk about any 3D accelaration at all...
[13:57] <KevinLaptop> alright, I try to boot my windows disk now its saying it can't find bootmgr
[13:57] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, The point is, that laptop is not usable for games or 3D modelling, for humble office jobs, this will do fine.
[13:57] <Skew-_^> kk i see i see
[13:57] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, ==> #windows
[13:57] <KevinLaptop> what does that have to do with windows? its GRUB
[13:57] <KevinLaptop> grub is what's telling me this
[13:57] <Skew-_^> iam gonna change out my HP Envy 14-1190eo to somthing that is more Linux friendly
[13:58] <Segaja> pangolin: thanks
[13:58] <pangolin> KevinLaptop: if you are booting with the windows CD you should not be seeing grub at all
[13:58] <pangolin> Segaja: welcome
[13:58] <gartral> hello all, I'm looking for a virtual pet "toy" application, I'm not talking about AMOR, I want somthing a little more along the lines of the old "Petz" program.. anything like that around?
[13:58] <Stereocaulon> pangolin, good point!
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> KevinLaptop  do you get the grub menu?
[13:58] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, i travle alot so i need one that is powerfull and not so heavy
[13:58] <KevinLaptop> pangolin: Yes, that's exactly my point, but grub ISN'T letting it boot from my recovery disk. HP Sent me about 3 disks of windows 7 recovery, and NONE of them work
[13:59] <KevinLaptop> MonkeyDust: no, all I see is the grub rescue thing
[13:59] <pangolin> KevinLaptop: check your BIOS and make sure you have boot from CD set first
[13:59] <KevinLaptop> pangolin: already done that
[13:59] <pangolin> KevinLaptop: further help with windows in ##windows
[13:59] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, you still haven't told us what you need it for. What are your needs for this lappy?
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> KevinLaptop  maybe this link is useful http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/
[14:00] <Stereocaulon> MonkeyDust, it is a bit old, don't know if that would still work with Vista and up.
[14:00] <KevinLaptop> MonkeyDust: thank you, I will try that :-)
[14:00] <KevinLaptop> Stereocaulon: I'll try anything at this point lol
[14:01] <KevinLaptop> omfg, now its saying the same thing when I try to boot ubuntu livecd..
[14:01] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, for more modern games, Wine is actually pretty good.
[14:01] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, hmm, vbox, office, web browsing, movies, music, some games, maby autocad or scetchup
[14:02] <KevinLaptop> Stereocaulon: anything is worth a try, thanks for the info :D
[14:02] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, well first of all, you'll need to tell your BIOS to start from CD *before* looking up a bootloader on your HDD/ SSD
[14:03] <rasterizer_> Hello everyone, for some reason I am not able to connect to smb share using gnome file manager. However i can connect using konqueror?
[14:03] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, if you have (U)EFI instead, the principle is almost the same, but it will look shiny and have mouse support :-P
[14:04] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, Try browsing www.winehq.org/appdb, you may not even need Windows.
[14:04] <KevinLaptop> Stereocaulon: its already set to boot cd first
[14:04] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, in that case you waited to long on the question wheter it should boot from optical/ CD or not.
[14:05] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, i need windows for ipad, and iphone sync/backup :P the itunes true wine is buggy
[14:05] <Scopey> I keep having a problem with installing ubuntu via windows 7, when the installation is nearing completion i get a Windowsbackend eror about the iso path and can't install, also it refuses to let me boot from the usb drive i installed ubuntu on
[14:05] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, you could start Windows in a VM, you know...
[14:05] <ZynuiMaiche> Hello!  I had a question about Ubuntu and RAM.  My friend told me that it allocates so space on the HDD to give you more RAM than you actually have.  But my Activity Monitor tells me I have what is installed.  Any thoughts?
[14:06] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, yes vbox^^
[14:06] <ZynuiMaiche> Specifically, something called "Swap"
, thats is called swap / virtual file system (windows)
[14:06] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^,  or kvm/ Xen (more performance, but less user friendliness)
[14:07] <ssta> ZynuiMaiche: yes, teh installer by default allocates some swap.  What specifically did you want to know?
[14:07] <artichoku> howdie howdie! how's it hangin'?
[14:07] <ssta> artichoku: to the left
[14:07] <artichoku> lol
[14:07] <Stereocaulon> X-/
[14:07] <artichoku> everyone always says that
[14:07] <artichoku> i gotta change my macro
[14:07] <artichoku> kek
[14:07] <ZynuiMaiche> I guess, how does it work?  I have about 1GB of actual RAM, and Swap says it has 2.8GB.  Does this mean I effectively have 4GB of RAM?
[14:08] <ssta> ZynuiMaiche: no, you have 1G of actual RAM, but if you run out then the kernel can swap some out to dosk.  Generally it swaps out stuff that's not being used much
[14:08] <artichoku> zynuimaiche, have you used windows before? swap is kind of like the virtual memory of windows
[14:08] <Stereocaulon> ZynuiMaiche, you can look at swap as an emergency storage if you have run of RAM.
[14:08] <rasterizer_> ZynuiMachie, the way sap works it if your os runs out of RAM, it will use the swap space
[14:08] <ssta> swap is *slow* though...you don't want to have to use it if you can help it
[14:09] <Scopey> I keep having a problem with installing ubuntu via windows 7, when the installation is nearing completion i get a Windowsbackend eror about the iso path and can't install, also it refuses to let me boot from the usb drive i installed ubuntu on
[14:09] <Scopey> anyone know how to fix this?
[14:09] <Stereocaulon> ssta, ZynuiMaiche, yes it is painfully slow, but you will always need a small swap partition.
[14:09] <ZynuiMaiche> hmmmm ok very interesting.  So it's kind of like an emergency usage kind of thing?
[14:10] <ahmad> join #ubuntu-ir
[14:10] <artichoku> scopey: what is the exact error
[14:10] <ssta> Scopey: http://askubuntu.com/questions/84198/windows-backend-object-has-no-attribute-iso-path-see-log-for-details-err
[14:10] <ssta> Scopey: is that the problem?
[14:10] <Scopey> yeah
[14:10] <rasterizer_> socpey, did you make sure the usb is bootable
[14:10] <Stereocaulon> !swap | ZynuiMaiche
[14:10] <ssta> Stereocaulon: not actually true, but close denough I suppose
[14:10] <ahmad> tank you
[14:11] <Scopey> I just followed the instructions ont he ubuntu site to make it a bootable device, using universal usb installer
[14:11] <artichoku> the good doctor is in
[14:11] <Scopey> after it was done, I tried to install and the error i got was "windowsbackend object has no attribute 'iso_path'"
[14:11] <Stereocaulon> artichoku, yes indeed :-)
[14:11] <artichoku> burn a disk scopey
[14:11] <m60> APTonCD, is there a way to have it include more packages, not just the last downloaded?
[14:11] <dr_willis> at work also.. gotta love cellphones that can irc
[14:11] <Scopey> why can't i do it via usb?
[14:11] <artichoku> if you're installing and not running live
[14:11] <pangolin> Scopey: you need to set your BIOS to boot from USB first
[14:12] <rasterizer_> you can use mobalive CD a qemu emulator to test if you can boot via the usb
[14:12] <Stereocaulon> dr_willis, so what model cell do you use?
[14:12] <ssta> Scopey: that link I posted seems to suggest that you can't use wubi from USB drives
[14:12] <Scopey> pangolin: I have set my bios to boot from removable media first, but it refuses to let me boot from usb
[14:12] <Scopey> furthermore, why would the ubuntu site say you can?
[14:12] <ZynuiMaiche> ok thanks for the info on that everybody!  My other question is how to run a jar file from terminal such that if I close the terminal, the jar executed will remain open.  Is this possible?
[14:13] <artichoku> zynuimaiche java ./file
[14:13] <Stereocaulon> ZynuiMaiche, yes, just do this: java <jarfile> &
[14:13] <Stereocaulon> ZynuiMaiche, yes, just do this: java -jar <jarfile> &
[14:13] <artichoku> yeah the -jar
[14:13] <artichoku> mer bad
[14:13] <dr_willis> ZynuiMaiche:  nohup command &    then 'exit' to close the term
[14:13] <Stereocaulon> artichoku, as you've seen I omittted it also at first ;-)
[14:13] <Scopey> i'll try doing it via disc and see if that works
[14:14] <artichoku> i forget it frequently, then it doesn't work, and i remember, lol
[14:14] <dr_willis> ZynuiMaiche:  or start using screen ;)
[14:14] <Stereocaulon> !screen
[14:15] <ssta> byobu is awesomeness
[14:15] <artichoku> !dance
[14:15] <e-anima> i do not dance!
[14:15] <rasterizer_> for some reason I am not able to connect to smb share using gnome file manager. However i can connect using konqueror. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this problem.
[14:16] <lahwran> !dance
[14:16] <e-anima> i do not dance!
[14:16] <artichoku> lol
[14:16] <lahwran> I don't think you're supposed to be doing that, e-anima
[14:16] <lahwran> responding to a bot command, that is
[14:16] <pangolin> !dance
[14:16] <KevinLaptop> how about this, if I reinstall ubuntu will it fix my problems?
[14:16] <e-anima> i do not dance!
[14:16] <e-anima> lol. old joke from a friend
[14:16] <dr_willis> rasterizer_:  try cinnecting via ip number not machine name
[14:16] <artichoku> there's no place like <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:16] <e-anima> wait a sec
[14:17] <lahwran> artichoku: please keep socializing to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:17] <artichoku> lol
[14:17] <Stereocaulon> artichoku, such a shame that saying will change after IPV6 has taken over...
[14:17] <e-anima> and thats no bot, that a simple trigger 1 line
[14:18] <pangolin> e-anima: please make sure it is disabled for this channel
[14:18] <artichoku> stereocaulon, ikr?!
[14:18] <e-anima> i removed it
[14:18] <ssta> Stereocaulon: ipv6 has been "taking over any day now" since 1990.  It's still not here.  I've given up waiting for it
[14:18] <pangolin> e-anima: thank you :)
[14:18] <lahwran> !offtopic
[14:18] <artichoku> !guidelines
[14:18] <lahwran> socializing is fine but this is the wrong place
[14:18] <rasterizer_> dr_willis,  as I can connect via knoqueror browser using  server name. I can't understand how that will make any difference
[14:19] <rasterizer_> I will give it a go anyhow
[14:19] <Stereocaulon> rasterizer_, good point, maybe nautilus is wonky on this.
[14:19] <Stereocaulon> brb
[14:19] <dr_willis> rasterizer_:  ive had name fail and ip numbers work
[14:20] <dr_willis> no idea why..
[14:20] <Scopey> ssta: install via cd worked, thanks, i'll be back on a bit with another question lol
[14:20] <Stereocaulon> rasterizer_, why don't you file a bug with nautilus?
[14:22] <dr_willis> could be some time out differances also
[14:23] <dr_willis> samba and windiws shares seem to get flakier every year
[14:23] <rasterizer_> stereocaulon, dr_willis: it works now
[14:23] <dr_willis> rasterizer_:  ip or name.. or both...
[14:23] <rasterizer_> it was not the ip , but the path or share i was entering was incorrect
[14:23] <dr_willis> typos ;)
[14:24] <rasterizer_> yep
[14:24] <ssta> dr_willis: it's (somewhat) due to the desire to make it seamless and easy for users when it's inherently not as easy as all that...there are multiple barely semi-compatible versions of SMB/CIFS.  Even Windows has trouble deciding how to connect sometimes
[14:24] <dr_willis> I wonder if that d
[14:25] <dr_willis> fuse smb thing works
[14:25] <dr_willis> bbl.
[14:25] <rasterizer_> I have one more question, what is the max data transfer we can get over a smb network share locally and what parameters this will depend on
[14:26] <rasterizer_> I tried to copy about 16 gb over smb it took about 8-10 hours.
[14:26] <ssta> dr_willis: nautilus is using fuse behind the scenes I think.
[14:27] <rasterizer_> ssta, fues if only if the share is a NTFS i think
[14:27] <Stereocaulon> rasterizer_, or another non-native FS, I agree.
[14:27] <Myrtti> rasterizer_: if the data is transferred over TCP/IP, it makes no difference on what kind of filesystem it is...
[14:28] <ssta> rasterizer_: nope.  fuse is "filesystem in userspace", it basically means that the driver for the filesystem isn't running directly inside the kernel space
[14:29] <ssta> rasterizer_: so, for exsample, sshfs is fuse
[14:29] <rasterizer_> Myrtti, I would say fuse would be use locally by the server. And the client will use a Tcp/ip stream
[14:30] <ssta> hmm, nautilus uses gvfs, which (I think) is a different userspace vfs layer to fuse.  Same sort of thing though
[14:31] <Scopey> Hey guys, quick question, how can i get ubuntu/a program to scan a drive and delete all illegal characters in filenames? aka I want to go through a drive and delete all illegal characters (as per windows conventions) in the filenames
[14:31] <ahmad> کسی از ایران ایجا هست؟
[14:31] <ssta> Scopey: define "illegal"?
[14:31] <pangolin> !arabic | ahmad
[14:31] <Scopey> such as "?" """ ":"
[14:32] <ahmad> سلام من توی دانلود اهنگ با فایرفاکس مشکل دارم
[14:32] <ahmad>  به جای این که فایل دانلود بشه یک صفحه دیگه باز میشه که سیاه هستش
[14:32] <ahmad>  بعد توی اون صفحه اهنگ پخش میشه
[14:32] <ahmad>  مشکل از چیست؟
[14:32] <Scopey> i can get a full list of them
[14:32] <FloodBot1> ahmad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:32] <Scopey> ssta: / ? < > \ : * | ” those characters
[14:32] <amine> bonjour a tous pour quoi il mon baned sur ubuntu-fr
[14:33] <pangolin> amine: demande dans #ubuntu-fr-ops
[14:33] <pangolin> amine: on parle anglais seulement ici
[14:34] <ssta> Scopey: for foo in $(find /basedirectory); do mv ${foo} $(echo ${foo}|tr -d '?<>:*|"'); done
[14:34] <ssta> Scopey: TEST THAT FIRST! :)
[14:34] <ssta> Scopey: I pulled it out of the air, it should be fairly close, but don't run it on files you care about without checking it does what you want
[14:35] <Scopey> ssta: how should i go about testing it/can you walk me through the procedure please
[14:35] <ssta> Scopey: take a copy of the tree you want to run it all on (or part of the tree).  Run it on eht ecopy and check it does what you think it should
[14:36] <amine> je vous demonde avous tous ubuntu et pour tous le monde sa na rien avoire avec la longe moi je soui arabe je je parle 2 longe
[14:36] <oCean> !fr | amine
[14:36] <rasterizer_> ssta, fuse is a native fs utility for ntfs. where as gvfs something specific to gnome which is similar to konqueror's support of diff fs right from the browser. translates in to diff protocols as per service
[14:36] <pangolin> amine: Dans #ubuntu on parle an anglais seulement, ci tu as besoin d;aide en francais /join #ubuntu-fr ou bien #ubuntu-fr-ops
[14:37] <pangolin> dernier evertisement
[14:37] <pangolin> avertisement
[14:37] <ssta> rasterizer_: I really think you're wrong
[14:39] <amine> le probleme il mon baned sur ubuntu-fr et je veu aprndre  a travaille sur ubuntu ce sa que je ne pas compri
[14:39] <Scopey> ssta: I did for foo in $(find /Media/Media/Anime/Bounen no Xamdou); do mv ${foo} $(echo ${foo}|tr -d '?<>:*|"'), and the terminal is still working, how long should it take or did i do something wrong?
[14:40] <ssta> Scopey: depends how many files there are there.
[14:40] <Scopey> ssta: there's only 27 files
[14:40] <ssta> Scopey: then there's a problem.  The spacxe in the tree name won't help
[14:40] <JackAnansi> Scopey: I'm only half paying attention and I don't know much about it, but the spaces in the directory name might screw things up
[14:40] <jrib> Scopey: that probably wouldn't work right if your filenames have spaces
[14:40] <V-ille> It seems my 11.10 doesn't automount removable media with xfce, any idea why? Thunar has volume management enabled and the config looks right.
[14:40] <ssta> Scopey: personally I'd put an echo in front of that "mv" so I can SEE what it's doing before I let it actually do it
[14:40] <ssta> Scopey: if it's only 27 files, why not just fix them by hand?
[14:40] <JackAnansi> Scopey: maybe put the full path in quotes
[14:41] <Scopey> ssta: JackAnansi: I can fix the folder name so there's no space in the folder name
[14:41] <jrib> Scopey: I'd suggest just use the rename command...
[14:41] <ssta> surely wouldn't take more than a minute or two, and you KNOW it's safe
[14:41] <ssta> Scopey: in general, spaces in filenames are *evil*...avoid them wherever possible :)
[14:41] <Scopey> ok could someone give me the code I should try then? sorry to be so helpless with this
[14:42] <ssta> Scopey: seriously, there are only 27?  change them by hand...LOTS safer
[14:42] <Scopey> ssta: this is just a test batch, there's many many more
[14:42] <JackAnansi> ssta: yeah, I hated using the command line in windows. so many directories with spaces in the name...
[14:42] <jrib> Scopey: rename -n 's/charactersIdon'tlike//' files_I_want_to_rename
[14:42] <ssta> Scopey: ah, okay.  Remove the spaces firs then.  There are lots of scripts for doing that (google for "script to remove spaces in filenames")
[14:43] <jrib> Scopey: erm, throw on a g after the two slashes
[14:43] <snimavat> I just installed ubuntu along side windows 7, and now windows 7 won't boot
[14:43] <snimavat> I can see the windows in boot menu, but when i click on it, windows does not boot and after few secs, again i am presented to choose from the ubuntu or windows
[14:43] <Scopey> ssta: i'm a little worried about removing all the spaces when it comes to going back and renaming the files after :S
[14:43] <acicula> snimavat: can you select windows from the boot menu?
[14:44] <snimavat> yes
[14:44] <rasterizer_> snisnimavat, do you get any error message
[14:44] <acicula> and what happens then
[14:44] <snimavat> every time i click on windows, it shows me boot menu again
[14:44] <varikonniemi> i have this program that is started by doing 'glc-capture'
[14:44] <snimavat> No errors - windows does not boot and i m presented boot menu again.
[14:45] <varikonniemi> how can i find what name the program is?
[14:45] <jrib> varikonniemi: define "name"
[14:45] <V-ille> ah, now I see it - thunar doesn't cope with these multimode devices I have
[14:45] <ssta> Scopey: basically this is not a trivial thing...it can cause dataloss.  It's more than possible (in fact, stuff like this is why I love unix), but given that it's hairy, I don't wnt to be the cause of you losing data
[14:45] <varikonniemi> locate glc-capture does not find anything
[14:45] <V-ille> I need an alternative volume manager that works with xfce then
[14:45] <jrib> varikonniemi: you want the location?
[14:45] <varikonniemi> yes
[14:45] <acicula> !grub
[14:45] <jrib> varikonniemi: « which glc-capture »
[14:45] <acicula> !dualboot
[14:45] <acicula> ah thats the one i wanted
[14:45] <varikonniemi> thanks!
[14:46] <snimavat> rasterizer_  i get no errors, it just does not boot, and i m presented the boot menu again
[14:46] <snimavat> rasterizer_ ?
[14:47] <snimavat> I did nothing fancier when installing ubuntu, but still windows won't boot - though its present in boot menu
[14:47] <loxs> how can I invoke ubuntu software center from the command line?
[14:48] <rasterizer_> snimavat, if you have not formatted the windows partition. I would advised us windows boot disk to do a recovery
[14:48] <loxs> what's the name of its executable?
[14:48] <jrib> loxs: software-center -_-
[14:48] <snimavat> rasterizer_ Yes windows partition is not formatted - I can see data from ubuntu file explorer
[14:49] <snimavat> rasterizer_ How do i do recovery ? will ubuntu still work after that ?
[14:49] <yeats> snimavat: you used wubi (windows ubuntu installer) right?
[14:49] <loxs> jrib, it's not
[14:49] <jrib> loxs: it is :/  What version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:49] <loxs> jrib, 11.10
[14:50] <jrib> loxs: software-center
[14:50] <uni4dfx> Where the f**k are printer settings in 11.10??? Everything is gone? Is this a joke?
[14:50] <jrib> loxs: why do you believe it's not?
[14:50] <loxs> hm, it's not installed, strange
[14:50] <snimavat> yeats ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64
[14:50] <dak0> search in dash
[14:50] <dak0> jrib
[14:50] <DragonSlay> is windows better than linux? One guy said linux has lot of bugs. Personally i feel linux is fast, stable. Since i don't have any sure point to argue with him, i stayed calm.
[14:50] <yeats> loxs: type software-c<TAB> and see what comes up
[14:50] <snimavat> yeats - I dont know if its wubi or what - sorry for tht.. quite new to ubuntu
[14:51] <dak0> Depends what are you doing with the computer, if you are gaming Windows is better. ;)
[14:51] <yeats> snimavat: did you insert the disc and install while Windows was running?
[14:51] <loxs> yeats, after I installed it, it's fine :)
[14:51] <yeats> loxs: ah ;-)
[14:51] <snimavat> yeats - No - i installed it side by side - dual boot - not as a software inside windows
[14:52] <yeats> snimavat: okay - just ruling that out
[14:52] <snimavat> yeats - what has gone wrong ?  what can i do now ?
[14:52] <dak0> Whats your problem ?
[14:53] <rasterizer_> snimavat, it seems that the windows boot loader might. What option did you choose when it ask prompts you to select to install grub(on mbr / the partition)
[14:54] <ankur> helo
[14:54] <yeats> snimavat: see if this thread helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1606823
[14:54] <ankur> hello
[14:54] <snimavat> rasterizer_  it did not ask any thing such, just asked for install side by side windows and resize partition thts all
[14:56] <giedz> hi, does anyone know if latest ubuntu-core supports ARM 11 MP ?
[14:57] <Stereocaulon> giedz, I believe not, Debian does though
[14:57] <snimavat> yeats thanks but that looks different, that guy seems to have issue because of two hdd
[14:57] <snimavat> rasterizer_  how do i do recovery using windows CD ?
[14:58] <snimavat> i mean will that keep ubuntu working.. or what ? any steps
[14:58] <rasterizer_> snimavat, try google "how to recover windows 7 after installing ubuntu "
[14:58] <vpelcak_> Hello
[14:59] <drale2k> Do i have to restart the server when i put something newi nto /etc/init.d/ ?
[15:00] <dak0> I don`t thing so.
[15:00] <vpelcak_> I have weird issue. After upgrade to oneiric on 64bit arch I have displayed packages from i386 arch as well (in format pkgname:i386). How to get rid of them?
[15:01] <vpelcak_> any ideas?
[15:01] <rasterizer_> snimavat, that should keep ubuntu working as long as it is not using one of the partitions required by windows7
[15:01] <Skew-_^> Does Ubuntu suport alienware?
[15:02] <ssta> Skew-_^: I don't see why it wouldn't.  It's just a PC...expensive PC, but still just a PC
[15:02] <stephenh> yeah
[15:02] <stephenh> it's just a beefed up dell
[15:02] <snimavat> rasterizer_  ok, i m googling
[15:03] <lucious77> what is missing in ubuntu-core to support ARM 11 MP  if Debian does?
[15:03] <rasterizer_> vpelcak, which install iso did you use?
[15:03] <drale2k> I have my init script for nginx under /etc/init.d/ but when i try to run "sudo /etc/init.d/nginx" it says "sudo: /etc/init.d/nginx: command not found"
[15:04] <vpelcak_> rasterizer_: That was upgrade. I don't recall details, but there is some script like do-dist-upgrade or something like that
[15:04] <rkmiec> drale2k: are you sure it has execution bit set?
[15:04] <ablyss> this is awesome http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/
[15:04] <jrib> drale2k: you shouldn't call those scripts directly anyway but instead use the « service » command
[15:05] <rasterizer_> vpelcak, that right.  was your initial installation was a x86_64 bit base distro and then you did the upgrade
[15:05] <drale2k> jrib: service nginx tells me "nginx: unrecognized service"
[15:05] <V-ille> heh, ok, I solved my automount woes. The other device (n900) was mounting its disk itself because I had an ebook reader open. :) The other device refuses to mount usb mass storage anyway.
[15:06] <vpelcak_> rasterizer_: Yes. I also briefly checked repos and didn't found any where was 32bit specified to be used (if it is even possible)
[15:06] <jrib> drale2k: it would be « sudo service nginx start » (or stop, or restart, or whatever).  Did you create this script?  How did this script come to be?
[15:06] <rasterizer_> what kernels do you see when you boot, if you did upgrade it might show different kernel versions
[15:07] <drale2k> jrib: i got it via "wget" and checked the paths, they are correct for me
[15:07] <jrib> drale2k: how did you install nginx?
[15:07] <drale2k> jrib: via "passenger", it installs nginix for Ruby on Rails
[15:07] <vpelcak_> rasterizer_: Linux triarius 3.0.0-15-generic #25-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 2 17:44:42 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:07] <jrib> drale2k: why aren't you using APT?
[15:08] <vpelcak_> I've installed latest kernel, but didn't reboot to it, yet.
[15:08] <drale2k> jrib: because this does the config for rails and ruby automatically :(
[15:08] <drale2k> jrib: and everything works only the service not
[15:08] <drale2k> jrib: i can start nginx by calling /opt/nginx/sbin/nginix
[15:08] <jrib> drale2k: use apt, it will have a proper working init script
[15:09] <vpelcak_> Perhaps it is synaptic bug
[15:09] <vpelcak_> I don't see this in aptitude
[15:09] <jrib> drale2k: remove your current nginx install and your existing /etc/init.d/nginx script first
[15:09] <LukeNukem> i think like dr_willis told me, i broke unity
[15:09] <LukeNukem> i cant see close, minimise buttons on terminal
[15:09] <dak0> I broke once unity
[15:09] <LukeNukem> and minimized applications
[15:09] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, good for you, now you can finally switch to a sensible DE
[15:10] <LukeNukem> i cant see panel on them either.
[15:10] <dak0> everytime i click at dash or anything on unity auto logout
[15:10] <LukeNukem> Stereocaulon, like?
[15:10] <dak0> The only way to solve this problem
[15:10] <dak0> is ......
[15:10] <dak0> reinstall :)
[15:10] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, XFCE, LXDE, OPenbox, Fluxbox, take a pick...
[15:10] <LukeNukem> :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
[15:10] <LukeNukem> Stereocaulon, Gnome?
[15:10] <dak0> or sudo apt-get install lubuntu-dekstop
[15:10] <dak0> and switch to kde
[15:10] <dak0>  ;)
[15:10] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, don't make me laugh...
[15:11] <LukeNukem> oh, i remember..
[15:11] <LukeNukem> Unity is the shell
[15:11] <LukeNukem> so XFCE must be shell
[15:11] <LukeNukem> but ive seen some stuff on google like XFCE vs Gnome, so i thought it would be something like GNOME
[15:11] <LukeNukem> dak0, but isn't that another OS
[15:11] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, actually Unity is an extension of Gnome3 and XFCE can be seen as a Gnome-Light and LXDE even more.
[15:12] <analyser> hi. i've a notebook with two graphic cards, a intel and a nvidia, I'm having a hard time to set them up. I would like to know if is it possible to disable the intel card, and just use the nvidia one?
[15:12] <LukeNukem> Stereocaulon, how would i install XFCE, or anything better? something that looks good ;)
[15:12] <vpelcak_> rasterizer_: It looks like problem iin package management itself, not in kernel level. aptitude displays packages twice, synaptic adds i386 indicator
[15:12] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, just install the xubuntu-desktop package.
[15:12] <EagleScreen> I like Unity more each day
[15:13] <OerHeks> analyser, you have an Optimus ?
[15:13] <LukeNukem> Stereocaulon, how big is it
[15:13] <analyser> OerHeks: yes, but it's not working properly.
[15:13] <dak0> Just do it 100-200mb's
[15:13] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, depends on how many libraries you have already loaded, most of is actually shared with Gnome
[15:13] <OerHeks> analyser, check bumblebee > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee and the #Bumblebee channel
[15:13] <dak0> lukenukem
[15:13] <snimavat> btw how do i start shell in ubuntu 11 ?
[15:13] <mongy> LukeNukem,  if you want to save some bandwidth use the --no-install-recommends option
[15:14] <snimavat> where are all the menus gone ?
[15:14] <snimavat> Where's terminal ?
[15:14] <dak0> ctrl+alt+t
[15:14] <OerHeks> snimavat, ctrl + alt + T
[15:14] <Colin969>  Is there a way to pull a proxy over specific mac addresses via my router? E.G Block select sites to a single computer. #networking seems to be dead
[15:14] <analyser> OerHeks: I'll check that again, although, I'd rather prefer just disable the intel card and use nvidia all the time, if this were possible, ofcourse.
[15:14] <snimavat> thnx
[15:15] <dak0> anybody playing PokerTH?
[15:15] <OerHeks> analyser, i think it is possible, with the switcher... but i do not own a Optimus, just interested.
[15:15] <mongy> snimavat, hit windows key or click the dash icon top left, start typing terminal.
[15:15] <maxagaz> hi
[15:15] <sjihs> Hi, is it possible to install ubuntu-mono fonts on natty?
[15:16] <dak0> :-&
[15:16] <LukeNukem> mongy, what difference does it make o.o
[15:16] <analyser> OerHeks: I'll give this a last shot, and then I come back to tell my results
[15:16] <LukeNukem> Stereocaulon, isn't xubuntu, lubuntu etc another operating system, i would be changing my OS then
[15:17] <acicula> analyser, the nvidia card will drain your battery a lot quicker, so permanently disabling the intel igp may not be what you want
[15:17] <maxagaz> I have just succesfully installed ubuntu on a samsung np-nc10, but when I rebooted it, I get a black screen with blinking cursor, what does it mean ?
[15:17] <mongy> LukeNukem, will miss out applications that come with default desktop install, so if you already have gedit installed for instance, it wont download leafpad, the xfce text editor..  etc
[15:17] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, no they are not, it's all Ubuntu, just with another Desktop Environment
[15:18] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, they are called meta-packages, actually a set of packages.
[15:18] <Stereocaulon> !metapackage
[15:19] <LukeNukem> Stereocaulon, cant i just install XFCE
[15:20] <analyser> acicula: that's true, however as I work always with the computer plugged into the wall it's not a big deal.
[15:20] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, but the Xubuntu package takes care of a smooth transition. You can always choose another DE from the startup menu
[15:21] <dak0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1917087
[15:21] <drale2k> jrib, rkmiec: rkmiec was right about the execution, "chmod +x" has done it
[15:21] <LukeNukem_> Stereocaulon, ok so whats the best DE to install
[15:21] <drale2k> thanks
[15:22] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, that's up to you to decide. XFCE looks the most like Gnome2 minus the top bar.
[15:22]  * dsf4r4 waves hi
[15:23] <dak0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1917087
[15:23] <LukeNukem_> Stereocaulon, what about GNOME 3
[15:23] <LukeNukem_> http://lifehacker.com/5853099/linux-desktop-faceoff-gnome-3-vs-ubuntu-unity
[15:24] <LjL> dak0: is your question how to install PokerTH? why not just "sudo apt-get install pokerth"?
[15:25] <mongy> LukeNukem, you can install and remove them at your leisure.  or why not just try them in a vmeware/virtualbox vm
[15:25] <mongy> wmare*
[15:25] <mongy> arg, nevermind.
[15:25] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, I don't like it, but you can decide for yourself. I chose LXDE, because I want my desktop to be lean and mean, but usable nonetheless.
[15:25] <dak0> LjL does that download lastest version ?