 @Gabriele, The person behind this may be building something cool.  Please leave a message at the sound of the tone
 Guys i need help with telegram. Is this the right group?
 ?
 I had many open telegram sessions and I decided to close all those that I did not use anymore. Accidentally I also closed that of Telegram for UBports and now I can no longer enter. He asks me for the phone number and the upload icon continues to run indefinitely. I tried to delete the telegram data from both the .cache folder and the one below .config but without success.
 if i close telegram during the spinning icon screen and start it again it goes all blank
 I would just uninstall and reinstall the app
 i've done that many times but no luck :(
 What phone are you using?
 n5 on 15.04 rc
 so when you reload telegram and enter you phone number... It pauses during the load. is this what happens
 Ttrying logging into telegram web.
 Let it load. Then try the phone again
 trying clearing its config data and cache..you can easily do it in UT Tweak Tool
 Any plans for Nexus 5X guys ?
 Could it run Ubuntu
 @onajjar, Perhaps with Project Halium later this year. For now, we wait :)
 @KingJamez @Javacookies now i'm writing from telegram desktop in windows 10, i got a laptop with fedora 27 with cutegram that works fine (those are the 2 instances i kept)
 i just tried with BlueStack + Telegram and i get this error when trying to register: "Too many attempts, try again later" even tough 9 hours have passed from the last try
 what?
 @ifranci84, Sounds like it has now gone into security mode, thinking that you are trying to hack the account
 :D
 What can I do to prove my innocence?
 @ifranci84, In settings, first check that you have only two instances open. If there is a ghost third, kill it
 ok, there are only 2 instances
 Check FAQs
 Did you get passcodes when you tried to log in?
 no
 oh god
 ok let's switch argument. There is way to activate Signal desktop from UBports?
 i mean scanning the barcode ecc
 @nanu_c islas working still on it, we have to wait, his next feature
 nice
 @Stereofont, 2fa can make telegram trust in user
 I'm using too many logins without problems
 More than 10 active sessions (with 2FA)
 Thanks @devsigma_bot i'll try
 BTW, 2FA is great to enforce account logins, SS7 is Vulnerable and a hacker can get the code if it's purely SMS authentication
[10:15] <tgBot1> Disegugu97 was added by: Disegugu97
 Buenos dias @Disegugu97 y Bienvenido! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://t.me/WelcomePlus) and thanks again for joining us! :)
 https://t.me/UBPorts_ES Tenemos un grupo en espanhol, asi que te esperamos!
 @malditobastardo, Any Portugal, Angola and Brazil group?
 @devsigma_bot, Tambem tem Portuguese Português https://t.me/UBPortsPT . :)
 Portugal e Brasil estao no mesmo grupo
 @malditobastardo, Obrigado
 😁😁😁
 😊😊
 @wayneoutthere, how?
 @abdullahcok, perhaps your jeans were too tight?
 @onajjar, People are 'working on it' but it cannot run today.  I think.
 @devsigma_bot, Precisely why one should use E2E.
 @Ataxia_Mentalis, MITM feels...
 There's a greater challenge in finding ways to avoid the E2E than simply MITMing clear traffic it.
 But clear traffic can readed by a 5yo without great challenge
 http://blog.qt.io/blog/2018/01/23/qt-5-9-4-released/
 @devsigma_bot, Right....
[13:57] <tgBot1> <Jimmie Johnsson> Got my nexus 5 today so going to strap ubuntu touch to it. I want to try and develop a simple app for it - would you recommend i use the 16.04 devel branch or the stable 15 branch if my intention is to make an app for it? I.e - is 16.04 to shaky for develop target when trying to code an app?
 what are you building the app with? pure qml?
 cordova?
[14:04] <tgBot1> <Jimmie Johnsson> Qml with c++ plugin
[14:06] <tgBot1> <Jimmie Johnsson> No fancy c++ library depends, think most of what I need is pretty standard stuff
 development should be about the same on both, but you will likely need to recompile between the two, as libstdc++ broke ABI, and different versions of Qt
[14:08] <tgBot1> <Jimmie Johnsson> Alrite. Ill give the devel a shoot, good if people are running it I guess. If its to shaky, is it easy to flash it to the 15 version? I dont care if I lose data of course
 If you can get one, you can get the other.
 16.04 is rather shaky right now indeed, but I'm in the same boat as you. Kinda want to give an app an honest try but don't really know which platform to start on.
 I think that there's a new platform target for 16.04... Wonder if Clickable supports it yet...
 @UniversalSuperBox, It's not landed yet https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch-meta/pull/4
 ah
[14:13] <tgBot1> <Jimmie Johnsson> Ok, I am using clickable to build my app. Maybe Im better of running on 15 version then until clickable supports building for 16? Or is it easy to manually fix the project files so it builds for the 16.04 one?
 That's probably a good solution
 @popescu_sorin, Coming to Bionic Sometime Soon. #ubuntu-qt on freenode for more details.
 @tsimonq2, great! o/
 @milkor73, This is planed for mid of february, but does someone recomend  a good explanation on protobuf from google?
 @ifranci84, Don't forget uMatriks also
[16:49] <tgBot1> <Jimmie Johnsson> Just installed the The 15 stable on the nexus 5 phone, im impressed with how smooth it all went! Well done guys
[17:38] <tgBot1> TrojusVerbulo was added by: TrojusVerbulo
 Hello @TrojusVerbulo and welcome to UBports.
 So I've been usin an old iPhone 5 c and want to get a device for Ubuntu Touch. I am looking at the nexus 5 but, to be clear, is this the Google nexus 5 or LG nexus 5 OR doesn't it matter?
 Be sure to check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for more newcomers info.
 @TrojusVerbulo, Isn't that the same thing ;)
 D820 or D821
 @TrojusVerbulo, Happy to hear this!!
 What's difference? 820 or 821?
 820 is the US version and 821 is international
 Heared, that some version was with buggy wifi module. Is it true?
 @Dejavu_Dmitry, Wifi is rock solid for me...not sure abou that.
 @Crash_Burn, 820?
 I have issues switching on hotspot though.  But I seem to be the only one.
 @Dejavu_Dmitry, Yes
 @Crash_Burn, Possibly? I didn't know if there might be some difference i.e. If a model was made by Google itself vs contracting LG
 I think, that 821 is buggy.... many used ships with dead wifi modules...
 LG made some devices very similar to the Nexus 5... because why not.. .but it was slightly different.  Can't remember the model number off the top of my head.
 @Dejavu_Dmitry, Well... the good news is any used one you buy is guaranteed to work!  :)
 @Crash_Burn, Thanks
 @Crash_Burn, Yay
 @Crash_Burn, 👍
 @TrojusVerbulo, both. Google projected the phone while LG produced it iirc. a parternship or somethingl like that...
 The ubuntu-seeds thing: Is it for download a device kit for the Ubuntu SDK by ubports (latest qt versions etc.)?
 @Michele, thanks
 @TrojusVerbulo, 👍🏻
[18:19] <tgBot1> <Yumeng Ley> Ubuntu for nexbit Robin?  Please!!!!!
 you are welcome to create a port :)
 Is there a way to sync microsoft calendar with UT?
[18:51] <tgBot1> MiFPV was added by: MiFPV
 @KingJamez, you mean Exchange?
 its an office 365 account. That was given to me from the school I go to.
 like an @msn account
 ok, i don't know what protocol it uses for syncing
 Hey @MiFPV and welcome to UBports.
 Lets us know how we can help you.
 Is there a way to manually add an account to the calendar app.  I do not see any options for that available.  Using 15.04 on OPO
 @MiFPV Please read https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for the most importanrt information
 not really. you could maybe do something on cli to hack something in with syncevolution
 a few days ago i flash my m10hd with 16.04/devel version 20  (via ubuntu-device-flash).  how do I get the new version 23? by flashing again?
 you should just upgrade
 in settings
 Fwd from petya230: okay
 Fwd from petya230: now
 Fwd from petya230: its not reboot
 Fwd from petya230: but not boot ._.
 Fwd from petya230: so
 Fwd from petya230: how can i see any log?
 Fwd from petya230: ssh not working
 Fwd from petya230: and the last log too
 Fwd from petya230: adb shell cat /sys/fs/pstore/console-ramoops-0
 Fwd from petya230: its not created..
 Fwd from petya230: no emergency reboot
 Fwd from petya230: any idea?
 😳
 😂
 its halium rootfs
 @kristijantkalec, i can only see an upgrade for File Manager
 hmm
 reastart the tablet
 and updating File Manager failed with Exit code: 7
 yes, updating apps still fails
 try restarting the tablet
 ok
 btw, how can I make sshd persistent?
 `android-gadget-service ssh enable` iirc
 yeah, i tried that, but didn't work
 so, it's rebooted, i still see only the File Manager
 hmm
 anybody else that can help with it
 I have no idea why it doesn't show the update for the next version
 is there way to do this manually in a shell?
 you can run system-image-cli in terminal to update, if the UI is busted for some reason. it should still work
 thx, that made it
 After reboot: … > android-gadget-service status ssh … ssh enabled … > service ssh status … ssh stop/waiting … so this is an error?
 sudo service ssh restart
 yeah, but i want sshd running after reboot
 Me to
 s/running/automatically running/
 don't know. it's always just worked for me
 i wanted to know if this is an error to be sure,  before i make a bug-report for xenial
 i don't know. and i don't have any way to test myself right now
 I typed a-g-s sshd enable once, several updates and many reboots ago. It is still working.
[23:13] <tgBot1> dohniks was added by: dohniks
 Hi @dohniks! I'm part of the Welcoming Team. To get started, please look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome and feel free to ask any question, especially in the Newcomers Room!


[09:53] <czajkowski> daker: are you about if so can you pop into locoteams
[10:54] <daker> czajkowski: ?
[10:55] <czajkowski> daker: can you pop into #ubuntu-locoteams
[15:29] <popey> Morning!
[15:30] <mhall119> morning popey
[15:30] <mhall119> jono: are we having our regular call today?
[15:32] <jono> mhall119, not at the scheduled time, but I would like to hop on a call with you at some point today
[15:32] <mhall119> jono: ok, just let me know a bit ahead of time so I'll be around
[15:34] <jono> mhall119, let me check the cal now
[15:34] <jono> mhall119, can we do 11.30 Pacific?
[15:35] <jono> mhall119, oops
[15:35] <jono> 12pm Pacific
[15:36] <mhall119> jono: that'll work for me
[15:36] <jono> mhall119, awesome, putting it in the calk
[15:36] <jono> cal
[15:38] <smartboyhw_> jono: So ALL Canonical Employees are in the sprint?
[15:40] <jono> smartboyhw_, nope
[15:40] <jono> smartboyhw_, primarily engineering and design
[15:40] <smartboyhw_> jono: Oh OK. I am finding it difficult to find balloons this week so wondering if he is involved or what:P
[15:41] <jcastro> I am in Detroit
[15:41] <jcastro> So it's like Oakland except cold
[15:41] <popey> smartboyhw_: he's here in california
[15:41] <mhall119> jcastro: I'm sorry
[15:41] <popey> email works
[15:41] <popey> not all, no smartboyhw_
[15:42] <smartboyhw_> jcastro: Eh aren't your second Server post supposed to appear in Planet Ubuntu? Still can't see it here (lemme refresh)
[15:42] <smartboyhw_> part 2
[15:43] <jcastro> smartboyhw_: it gets delayed sometimes
[15:43] <smartboyhw_> jcastro: Bad blog system:P
[15:43] <smartboyhw_> Mine always appears within 30 minutes
[15:43] <smartboyhw_> Or rather, 15
[15:44] <jcastro> I usually don't invalidate my RSS feed
[15:44] <popey> the job runs hourly
[15:44]  * jcastro does so to make it refresh
[15:44] <jono> smartboyhw_, he is here
[15:44] <smartboyhw_> jono: I know
[15:46] <smartboyhw_> Anyhow, sleep time…
[15:46] <jcastro> nite
[15:46] <jcastro> thanks for the feed tip
[15:46] <jcastro> it's being fixed
[15:46] <smartboyhw_> jcastro: ;)


[03:15] <blakep> Is anyone here?
[04:47] <sidi> Can anyone explain to me what's the difference between Unity starting from the lightdm/unity greeter and unity --advanced-debug on a cleanslate X? I've got a compiz crash that I can't reproduce with --advanced-debug, apparently occurring on dl_init (so I presume when Compiz launches some Unity code), and I don't know how to reproduce the exact same execution envt with an interactive gdb session
[08:18] <everjeje> Hi. Just found a strange behaviour: having the sound settings window open and on top of the rest of the windows, whenever another application triggers a sound effect (like Thunderbird's "new email" sound), the sound settings window will increase it's size (some 30 pixels on the y-axis) while the sound is playing. It will go back to normal after the sound
[08:18] <everjeje> finishes playing.
[10:14] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/margins_contribute_to_display_margin/+merge/258854
[10:15] <tsdgeos> at some point we really need auto tests for the display margin stuff
[10:15] <tsdgeos> because we have none at the momeny _/
[10:16] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, thanks
[10:17] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, is this branch missing a prereq?
[10:17] <tsdgeos> ah
[10:17] <tsdgeos> it is
[10:19] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: now, https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/margins_contribute_to_display_margin/+merge/258855
[10:23] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, can you create a trello card for the margin tests please
[10:23] <mzanetti> approved the branch. fixes my nichtlustig scope
[10:35] <MacSlow> mzanetti, btw... updated my shellRotation branch with elopio's suggestion regarding QV4_ENABLE_JIT_CACHE
[10:36] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: i disagree with that
[10:36] <tsdgeos> and if we need it, it's showing some other problem in the JIT cache than that bug
[10:37] <tsdgeos> because the problem described with the JIT cache in that bug is that when changing libraries it doesn't clean itself
[10:37] <tsdgeos> what you said yesterday is that even once updated
[10:37] <tsdgeos> between different runs it'll crash
[10:37] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, I can't fix the QML-cache issues just like that... but also don't want to see shellRotation be blocked for ages due to out-of-scope bugs
[10:38] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: i actually do if you are saying that just running the branch with a cache of the same branch makes it crash
[10:38] <tsdgeos> because that is what the phone does
[10:39] <tsdgeos> maybe i didn't understand what you said
[10:40] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, it can crash... it doesn't always happen... and we're being hurt by the qml-cache bug more, because we're using scenarios now for the shellRotation ap-test, which cause multiple unity8 stop/start-cycles (thus qml-cache being recreated, if it was wiped before)
[10:40] <cimi> tsdgeos, after we submit a review in the edit review branch, shall it go back to edit review?
[10:40] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: what does it matter that we start/stop unity8?
[10:40] <tsdgeos> the cache is the same of the code it is
[10:40] <tsdgeos> so it is a good cache
[10:41] <tsdgeos> you don't need to ignore it/wipe it
[10:41] <tsdgeos> cimi: sorry i don't understand what you mean, can you rephrase?
[10:41] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, I've seen otherwise
[10:42] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: then report a bug
[10:42] <tsdgeos> because the bug you're linking is *not* about that
[10:42] <tsdgeos> you're basically saying the qml cache is crashy and should be always disabled
[10:42] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, I would have it I had a consistent reproducable test-case
[10:49] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: still you have it crashing i'm concerned that what you're doing is basically workaround the test
[10:49] <tsdgeos> by making it do not what the real world will do
[10:49] <tsdgeos> so we'll have crashes in real world
[10:49] <tsdgeos> is that what we want?
[10:50] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, no... we want qml-cache to be flawless of course... but I can't do that fix... on the other hand we want to move forward with shellRotation... thus this is my compromise
[10:50] <tsdgeos> your compromise is merging something that will crash randomly
[10:51] <tsdgeos> ok
[10:54] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, in the end it's mzanetti's call, if it'll move in or not.
[10:56] <mzanetti> well, tsdgeos is right in what he's saying...
[10:59] <mzanetti> MacSlow, why is this only an issue with that shellRotation branch? do you know that?
[10:59] <cimi> tsdgeos, I tried with make tryPreviewEditReview
[11:00] <cimi> tsdgeos, but after I submit it doesn't go back to the beginning, with the edit button
[11:00] <MacSlow> mzanetti, I've never seen this causing issues elsewhere (with other tests qml or autopilot)
[11:01] <mzanetti> yeah, the question is *why*
[11:02] <MacSlow> mzanetti, do you imply me hunting for the reason? :)
[11:03] <tsdgeos> cimi: ah, i see what you mean
[11:03] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: so what happens after the user triggers the edit button, do you send a new preview model?
[11:04] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, not the edit button, but send; yes, a new preview is returned
[11:04] <tsdgeos> right sorry
[11:05] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: so we don't actaully need to go back to "display" mode since you're doing it for us
[11:05] <tsdgeos> good :)
[11:05] <tsdgeos> cimi: ↑↑
[11:06] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, right. also that ensures what we actually show is what server has (e.g. the updated review)
[11:11] <cimi> tsdgeos, cool
[13:04] <kgunn> tsdgeos: i see you've got the inline audio card...what's the current thinking on that in terms of design etc
[13:05] <kgunn> before i left, design was sort of nowhere, and JoeO was asking if we could just reuse the playback controls from
[13:05] <kgunn> the indicator panel, and plop them into the dash view
[13:06] <tsdgeos> we don't have playback controls on the dash
[13:06] <tsdgeos> do we?
[14:23] <dandrader> tsdgeos, do you care about the default size of units.gu(40)xunits.gu(68) unity8-dash when you run it on the desktop without -windowgeometry?
[14:25] <tsdgeos> dandrader: not sure i understand the question :D
[14:26] <tsdgeos> you mean if i like the dash having a good size on a regulra start?
[14:26] <tsdgeos> yes i do
[19:18] <cumana`> hello, does anybody else suffers from unity's alt-tab behaviour in multiple-monitor environment? I mean that it shows windows from both screens in switcher, instead of windows from current desktop
[19:24] <ChrisTownsend> cumana`: Hi.  Both monitors are considered the same desktop.  Consider it one big screen.
[19:27] <cumana`> ChrisTownsend, OK, I understand that some people may appreciate this solution, but what about making it configurable?
[19:27] <cumana`> consider having 4 terminals, 2 per screen - alt-tabing than is purely useless
[19:28] <cumana`> *then
[19:29] <cumana`> moreover, considering screens as separate workspaces would also ease moving windows between them - using ctrl-alt and arrows
[19:29] <ChrisTownsend> cumana`: Well, the one big desktop is a fundamental design in Compiz and changing that would not be trivial.  I think there are outstanding requests for that and the likelihood of it ever being addressed is quite low.  I do understand your pain though.
[19:30] <ChrisTownsend> cumana`: I wish I had a better answer:-(
[19:33] <cumana`> okay, thank you
[19:34] <ChrisTownsend> cumana`: np!
[19:34] <cumana`> therefore the only way for me is to: fork compiz and change that behavior
[19:34] <cumana`> :P
[19:35] <ChrisTownsend> cumana`: Well, if you do make it work and not break the original functionality, we could merge it:)
[19:35] <cumana`> are you a Compiz maintainer/developer?
[19:36] <ChrisTownsend> cumana`: yes
[19:36]  * ChrisTownsend hides
[19:38] <cumana`> :-)
[19:40] <cumana`> brave trip from kernelspace into userspace, that's challenge I need!
[19:41] <ChrisTownsend> cumana`: lol, yeah I used to work on device drivers and now do this.
[19:45] <cumana`> ChrisTownsend, has embedded solutions bored you? or did you get annoyed with some bug in compiz? ;)
[19:48] <ChrisTownsend> cumana`: Heh, well, it's kind of a long story.  But the short of it is that I used to work on storage device drivers on fault tolerant servers, but wanted a change.  As far as working on Compiz/Unity/et. al., it kind of landed in my lap:)
[20:15] <greyback_> cumana`: hey, in ccsm, there's an option to "bias alt-tab to prefer windows on the current viewport" - have you tried that?
[20:16] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: That is per workspace, not per monitor.
[20:16] <greyback_> ChrisTownsend: ah ok
[20:17] <greyback_> my definition of view port differs from unity's
[20:17] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Well, that's a Compiz thing.  It's all very confusing, but in the end, Compiz view all connected monitors as one big desktop or mirrored desktops.
[20:18] <ChrisTownsend> viewport == workspace
[20:18] <greyback_> ChrisTownsend: yeah, gets it from X probably too, as a Display is all monitors
[20:18] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Yep
[20:19] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: So that option you pointed out will make Alt-Tab see only windows in the current workspace or all workspaces( ick!).
[20:20] <cumana`> greyback_, yes, I tried, but it doesn't work the expected way
[20:20] <greyback_> oh well, worth a shot
[20:22] <greyback_> I guess a problem is, how do you define the "current desktop" - the one with a window having the keyboard focus, or the one containing the mouse pointer?
[20:23] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: While I have your attention:)  I have a question about Unity 8 desktop end session.
[20:24] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: When I log out of the desktop session, I always get a crash in MirOpenGLContext::makeCurrent(QPlatformSurface*) ()
[20:24] <greyback_> ChrisTownsend: known issue, is on my plate
[20:24] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Oh good!
[20:24] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Thanks!
[20:24] <greyback_> ChrisTownsend: unless you fancy giving it a go?
[20:24] <greyback_> :)
[20:25] <ChrisTownsend> lol, well, um, uh...
[20:26] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Is it a matter of things getting destroyed/shutdown in the wrong order or is it something more specific?  Seems that thread should be destroyed early on.
[20:26] <ChrisTownsend> Like Mir has already gone away yet Qt is still trying to do stuff.
[20:27] <greyback_> ChrisTownsend: mostly the wrong order yeah. mir has shut down before qt ad fully cleaned up
[20:27] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Ok, that's what it looks like.  The code for this is in qtmir, correct?
[20:27] <greyback_> ChrisTownsend: I wouldn't worry, I've a good idea how to fix it. I'll get it soon hopefully
[20:28] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Ah, well then, I won't spend any time on it;-)
[20:28] <greyback_> it links in with improvements I'll be making for multimonitor too
[20:28] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Sweet!
[20:30] <cumana`> greyback_, sorry for delay - both of these cases would be beneficial, but please, do not let me switch between *all* windows
[20:31] <cumana`> where 'all' means 'windows from both monitors'
[20:32] <cumana`> it even surprises me a bit, so many people use multiple monitors, many of them with ubuntu, many of them are programmers with documentation, browser, terminal sessions and IDEs launched at once... and nobody bothers alt-tab :)
[20:33] <cumana`> maybe I'm a weirdo :V
[20:44] <greyback_> I do, but maybe I'm just accustomed to the current behaviour
[20:44] <greyback_> as I jump between monitors frequently, I prefer the last-focused-on-my-workspace order
[20:45] <greyback_> I do hate if I minimize a window, then alt-tab, I end up un-minimizing the same window - drives me nuts
[20:45] <greyback_> but that's another issue :)
[21:01] <cumana`> another question: is my issue connected only with compiz, or is workspaces mechanism spread across other entites too? like gnome, unity?
[21:03] <greyback_> cumana`: I've no idea, sorry. You'd need to try gnome-shell or kde or other shells with their own window manager to see
[21:04] <cumana`> OK, thank you guys for all answers and see you


[00:53] <HehakaSapa> Hello
[00:53] <stlsaint> HehakaSapa: hello
[00:53] <HehakaSapa> Hope all is well
[00:53] <stlsaint> great here...and with yourself?
[00:54] <HehakaSapa> Thanks
[00:54] <HehakaSapa> Where are you from ?
[00:55] <stlsaint> I am in killeen
[00:55] <HehakaSapa> Nice
[00:56] <HehakaSapa> Im on the rio grande river on the border with mexico
[00:56] <HehakaSapa> Just south of Eagle Pass
[00:56] <stlsaint> oh ok
[00:56] <HehakaSapa> Ever been to these parts?
[00:57] <stlsaint> nope