[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> zap-w: thats the first step: theres a number of things you can tweak. but try that first
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> ania________: use pastebinit .... pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors
[18:35] <minimalistt> hi folks , why is my 12.04 LTS booting with an orange screen .. i can never see the loading kernel thing ..
[18:35] <minimalistt> i'm guessing it must be something with the graphical terminal setting
[18:35] <zteam> minimalistt, just press Escape, and u should see it
[18:36] <minimalistt> zteam,  ok ..  but I have disabled the splashscreen .. its not the splash screen ..
[18:36] <minimalistt> zteam, lemme check though
[18:37] <dustinspringman> 13.10.... mini displayport connected to Vizio TV... worked on 12.04.. not any more..... odd thing is, I see the Viz 26" in "displays"...and I can pull windows over to it... just get no video...
[18:37] <maujhsn> gvo How are you today!
[18:37] <gvo> maujhsn: Great, how about you?
[18:37] <dustinspringman> only thing I've found that might be an issue is xrandr is showing HDMI1 "connected" instead of DP1 (as it should be DP1 for displayport1)...
[18:37] <minimalistt> zteam,  dosent work :(
[18:38] <maujhsn> gvo, I was doing great until about an hour ago!
[18:38] <dustinspringman> any ideas on what I can do to make xrandr realize I'm not connected to HDMI1 and am actually plugged into DP1 ?
[18:38] <gvo> maujhsn: Sorry
[18:38] <minimalistt> zteam,  its not a major problem .. just bugs me not to see all the booting text\\
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: lots of issues with the greeter. maybe try reinstalling lightdm and greeter. sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[18:39] <jubale> Is eCrypt data from previous session automatically removed upon new session or are a bunch of sessions kept?
[18:39] <maujhsn> gvo, i installed an upgraded version of NVIDIA drivers on my liveUSB, and have now lost the functionality of resizing open or active windows!
[18:40] <minimalistt> i think its something to do with # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[18:40] <minimalistt> #GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[18:40] <ania________> hitsuji unable to get EDID for outut, unable to get EDID for xrandr-lvds, error calling current status with signature on interface
[18:40] <gvo> maujhsn: That's not very nice.
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> ania________: can you pastebin the full .xsession-errors file
[18:40] <minimalistt> zteam,  i think its something to do with # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[18:41] <minimalistt> zteam, in /etgrub.conf
[18:41] <ania________> how to pastebin ;)
[18:41] <gvo> maujhsn: fall back to the previous version.
[18:41] <maujhsn> gvo, So what i did was deactived the new drivers and reinstalled the old drivers but still don't have the old default functionality!
[18:41] <zteam> minimalistt, yes, there should be some setting for it there
[18:41] <ania________> im in ircii no access to desktop, or web
[18:41] <minimalistt> zteam, if i uncomment it though it throws an error
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> ania________: install pastebinit: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors
[18:42] <maujhsn> gvo, Have you ever seen this issue?
[18:42] <zykotick9> minimalistt: i'd guess you mean /etc/default/grub zteam
[18:42] <gvo> maujhsn: No
[18:42] <maujhsn> gvo, Wow!
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> ania________  press ctrl alt F2, can you ping a website?
[18:43] <zteam> zykotick9, yes, it changed since grub 2
[18:43] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, reinstalled, I try to reboot a few times now
[18:43] <utahcon> Is there an RSS feed/site where I can see all packages that are presented for update and details on what is being fixed in them?
[18:43] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, BRB :)
[18:44] <minimalistt> ztane, zykotick9  it could be .. GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"
[18:44] <maujhsn> gvo, I can't believe how NVIDIA jerked me around!
[18:44] <ania________> got it paste.ubuntu.com/6471228
[18:45] <ania________> sorry  paste.ubuntu.com/6417228
[18:45] <gvo> maujhsn: It's not a perfect world.
[18:45] <ania________> sorry  paste.ubuntu.com/6417228
[18:46] <maujhsn> gvo, What the hot-key sequence to make a window active, while putting another window in the backround?
[18:47] <gvo> maujhsn: I don't know.  I haven't used the keys in a long time.
[18:47] <padrino> Guys
[18:47] <padrino> I know this isn't strictly Ubuntu but I'm trying to run Ubuntu on my Laptop
[18:47] <maujhsn> gvo, Ok!
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> padrino  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what goes wrong
[18:48] <padrino> I think my HDD is failed but I want to make sure, so I booted UltimateBootCD. From this list, which do I choose, I assume "HDD"? http://imgur.com/dRW4SRf
[18:48] <padrino> And I'm trying to boot Ubuntu but it won't install to HDD and won't boot so I'm thinking it's a problem with HDD so I want to test it
[18:49] <ania________> maujiTMO  paste.ubuntu.com/6417228
[18:49] <minimalistt> ztane, zykotick9   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"   wont work :|
[18:50] <padrino> You know how I can test it?
[18:50] <dharani> #chromium-os
[18:51] <ania________> can someonehelp with display problem.....system wont show me desktop....only loginscreen in hd, but wont acces to see directors desktop etc
[18:51] <ania________> paste.ubuntu.com/6417228
[18:52] <ania________> dmesg: error interup source  ff000066 is not supported on this hardware return code 1
[18:53] <ania________> error interuptsource ff000066  not suported on hardware reutrn 1
[18:54] <AnthonyUK> is there a way to reset the interfaces file back to default, I didn't realize the change in procedure for a static ip for ubuntu 12.04
[18:54] <AnthonyUK> hence i used a old bookmark for a newer ubuntu
[18:54] <padrino> I'm doing a GSmart thing I think
[18:55] <padrino> idk really, just fucking about
[18:55] <daftykins> AnthonyUK: there's no reason you can't set a static IP in there
[18:55] <AnthonyUK> its all messed up
[18:55] <daftykins> AnthonyUK: can you be more specific?
[18:55] <minimalistt> AnthonyUK, just delete the file and it should be regenerated with defaults i guess..
[18:55] <AnthonyUK> minimalistt: cool i will try that
[18:56] <minimalistt> AnthonyUK, take a backup though .. just in case
[18:56] <AnthonyUK> daftykins: I changed the settings so many times i just ended up wiping it empty
[18:56] <AnthonyUK> but when i wiped it the connection gui wouldn't even come up
[18:56] <daftykins> network-manager?
[18:56] <AnthonyUK> yeh
[18:57] <AnthonyUK> sorry lol
[18:57] <AnthonyUK> brb il try deleting and rebooting
[18:57] <minimalistt> AnthonyUK, incase it fails to regenerate , reconfigure the package .. dpkg reconfigure..
[18:57] <daftykins> AnthonyUK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417284/
[18:58] <daftykins> AnthonyUK: something like that would be a decent starting point if what you do now fails
[18:59] <daftykins> ania________: do you know what graphics hardware you have? is this a laptop/desktop?
[19:00] <zykotick9> AnthonyUK: i don't think delete and rebooting will recreate it!
[19:01] <rostam> Hi accidently I have removed part of a binary pkg installed on my system how can I recover it? thx
[19:01] <reisio> rostam: ask apt-file which package provides it
[19:02] <reisio> re-install that package
[19:02] <daftykins> see i wanted to guess which it was
[19:02] <reisio> :p
[19:03] <zykotick9> minimalistt: fyi, there is no package for interfaces!  "dpkg -S /etc/network/interfaces" it gets put there during the install.
[19:03] <rostam> the pkg is linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic
[19:03] <minimalistt> zykotick9, aww
[19:03] <utusan> rostam: just re-install it
[19:03] <daftykins> rostam: apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic
[19:04] <rostam> thank you
[19:04] <utusan> rostam: but if you removed it by un-installing it won't work re-installing
[19:04] <sa__> how do i install blender, is there a way other than extracting the tar.bz2?  that way doesn't show blender in the launcher or lock to launcher
[19:05] <daftykins> sa__: have you confirmed it's not an available package to install via the software centre / apt?
[19:05] <Nach0z> um
[19:05] <Nach0z> sudo apt-get install blender
[19:05] <Nach0z> :P
[19:06] <rosco_y> Does anyone know how to install libportaudio, I'm trying to compile some sources, and the makefile is complaining that: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lportaudio"
[19:07] <padrino> Can anyone tell me what this means?http://i.imgur.com/fdWm8JP.png
[19:07] <padrino> http://i.imgur.com/fdWm8JP.png
[19:07] <daftykins> rosco_y: apt-cache search lportaudio? :)
[19:07] <sa__> daftykins,  Nach0z the software center offers version 2.62, the tar.bz2 from the website is version 2.69 which works way better, for some reason, 2.62 has bugs and crashes
[19:08] <rosco_y> daftykins: ty, I didn't think of that :(doh)
[19:08] <sa__> any way to have the newest version installed the way software center does?  or can i only ever use the executable if i want to use 2.69
[19:08] <daftykins> sa__: look into finding 2.69 on an APT repo instead perhaps - it'd keep it up to date better than a manual installation
[19:08] <utusan> padrino: hardly legible
[19:08] <sa__> daftykins, is that through synaptic package manager?  or ubuntu software center?
[19:09] <rosco_y> found it, thank you daftykins!
[19:09] <daftykins> sa__: both technically
[19:09] <SamuelSF> I'm having difficulty getting VMware playing running in Ubuntu 13.10.  It tells me that I need Kernel headers 3.8.0-31-generic.  But when I run the terminal command    sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname - r)    it tells me that "Package linux-headers-3.8.0-31 is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[19:09] <daftykins> rosco_y: :)
[19:09] <SamuelSF> *VMware Player
[19:09] <padrino> utusan I'll take another pic
[19:09] <daftykins> padrino: yeah thatimage is terrible - do you suspect this hard disk is faulty?
[19:10] <padrino> daftykins that my initial thoughts, yes
[19:10] <daftykins> SamuelSF: can you paste the single line output of "uname -r" please
[19:10] <utusan> SamuelSF: linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic is the right name
[19:10] <padrino> here's new image, a little better: http://i.imgur.com/xhrq24i.png
[19:10] <daftykins> padrino: could you look at Disk Utility instead? that should report better status
[19:11] <sa__> daftykins, thanks
[19:11] <SamuelSF> You want me to run uname -r and paste the output?
[19:11] <daftykins> padrino: hrmm those errors are a little vague, can you run the standard disk utility or perhaps run smartctl in a terminal?
[19:11] <daftykins> SamuelSF: es
[19:11] <daftykins> *yes
[19:11] <utusan> padrino: you might see/try fsck -f /dev/sd??
[19:12] <Nach0z> sa__: you might be able to find a .deb package
[19:12] <SamuelSF> 3.8.0-31-generic
[19:12] <daftykins> SamuelSF: apt-get install linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic ?
[19:12] <SamuelSF> should I run that as sudo?
[19:12] <daftykins> yes
[19:12] <padrino> On "identity" page it says "Overall Health Self-Assesment Test: PASSED"
[19:13] <padrino> And what do you want me to do to make it more specific as to what the errors are?
[19:13] <daftykins> padrino: run some SMART utilities that i'm familiar with, i don't recognise that one
[19:13] <padrino> daftykins care to name any? First time I've ever used this so not too familiar with it
[19:13] <padrino> I'm using Parted Magic btw
[19:13] <daftykins> padrino: is that a live distro?
[19:14] <SamuelSF>  Package 'linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic' has no installation candidate
[19:14] <padrino> daftykins yeah
[19:14] <daftykins> SamuelSF: can you run "sudo apt-get update" then pastebin "apt-cache search linux-headers-3.8.0" ?
[19:15] <daftykins> padrino: ah - open a terminal and see if 'smartctl' is installed
[19:15] <daftykins> padrino: typically 'smartctl -i /dev/sda'
[19:15] <daftykins> hmm, maybe -a actually
[19:16] <padrino> I have GSmartControl
[19:16] <SamuelSF> daftykins: "apt-cache search linux-headers-3.8.0" does not produce any output
[19:17] <daftykins> SamuelSF: ah - that's not good then. perhaps look up how to install headers for your specific version (ubuntu version)
[19:17] <kiwi_> hi folks, i need to download the 12.04 lts 64 bit boot image . any idea how can speed up the download?
[19:17] <kiwi_> any particular fast mirrors?
[19:17] <kostkon> kiwi_, the one closest to you?
[19:18] <SamuelSF> daftykins, where do I look up my specific version?
[19:18] <densus_88> exec,    what the program name for fix bad sectors
[19:18] <paulus68> kiwi_: use torrents
[19:18] <daftykins> SamuelSF: cat /etc/issue
[19:19] <kiwi_> paulus68, ok .. is there a trustworthy resource for torrents?
[19:19] <OerHeks> !torrent
[19:19] <zykotick9> !torrents
[19:19] <sa__> daftykins, having a hard time finding, how do i find it exactly/?  ;<  sorry
[19:20] <OerHeks> kiwi_, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[19:20] <padrino> If it passed the basic health check on GSmartControl does that mean it could be a problem with the RAM and not the internal HDD? http://i.imgur.com/EFxwKdH.png
[19:20] <kiwi_> OerHeks, thank you
[19:20] <OerHeks> oh thanks zykotick9, never knew the difference torrent <> torrents
[19:20] <zykotick9> OerHeks: ;)
[19:20] <OerHeks> awesome
[19:21] <daftykins> sa__: i googled "ubuntu blender repo" and found this as a choice:
[19:21] <daftykins> 19:19 < OerHeks> kiwi_, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[19:21] <daftykins> oops
[19:21] <daftykins> sa__: i googled "ubuntu blender repo" and found this as a choice: http://askubuntu.com/questions/169542/how-do-i-install-the-latest-blender-3d-builds-from-a-ppa
[19:23] <electrosave> Salve a tutti
[19:23] <Salve> electrosave?
[19:24] <kiwi_> OerHeks, download in progress, thanks again
[19:24] <paulus68> !it|electrosave
[19:24] <OerHeks> kiwi_, have fun
[19:24] <electrosave> ok grazie
[19:24] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, seems to be working better after reinstalling LightDM, I still getting the error, but it seems to happen more rarlerly now
[19:24] <battle> hola tios
[19:24] <paulus68> !es|battle
[19:24] <gartral> hello all, I need a softphone app that I can set a custom ring tone for a specific contact with
[19:24] <Pici> Salve: 'salve' is hello is Italian.
[19:25] <Salve> Dorks
[19:25] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: i'd also try the greeter: dpkg --get-selections | grep greeter                                    that should get you the name of the greeter package
[19:25] <reisio> Salve: ikr
[19:25] <sa__> daftykins, gotcha, was looking in ubuntu software center and synaptic... x-x  thanks a bunch
[19:25] <battle> ok tratare de hablar ingles xD
[19:26] <Salve> reisio: thats why I love ya
[19:26] <battle> some particular topic
[19:26] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, it says unity-greeter, I try to reinstalll that one as well :-)
[19:26] <battle> i'm programmer amateur
[19:27] <battle> renebarbosa you are from?
[19:28] <xangua> battle: the topic here is ubuntu support, do you have an ubuntu support question¿ for chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:29] <battle> thanks xangua
[19:29] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, I will test to reboot some more, later, thank you so much for all your help, I really value it :-)
[19:29] <hitsujiTMO> zteam: np
[19:29] <reisio> Salve: te
[19:29] <zteam> hitsujiTMO, :-)
[19:30] <battle> have question.. how do edit video professional in ubuntu?
[19:30] <reisio> battle: professional?
[19:31] <kiwi_> ubottu, thanks to you, too
[19:31] <kiwi_> nice bot
[19:31] <kiwi_> turing bot
[19:32] <AnthonyUK> minimalistt and zykotick9: unfotunately a deleting the file and rebooting didn't work
[19:32] <newbie_87D> how ! i just downloaded a theme package. how to install  it without using the ubuntu tweak
[19:32] <AnthonyUK> daftykins: cheers for the pastebin it i put it in, then the icon came up and when I selected auto it got the connection back up,
[19:33] <lesshaste> is it really possible that http://nystateofhealth.ny.gov/ is STILL down?!
[19:33] <AnthonyUK> thanks to all for help on getting my ethernet port back up, il make a back up copy next time,
[19:33] <lesshaste> (sorry... OT)
[19:33] <AnthonyUK> now anyone have a better link to doing a static ip by command line?
[19:34] <xangua> newbie_87D: if its a grtk them, extract it in ~/.themes if it's an icon then on ~/.icons
[19:34] <xangua> gtk*
[19:34] <reisio> lesshaste: was up for me when I was there a moment ago
[19:35] <reisio> I don't live in NY, though :p
[19:36] <lesshaste> reisio, really? I mean can you actually follow that link??
[19:36] <lesshaste> reisio, or did you use a different url?
[19:36] <lesshaste> reisio, it has been down for me for weeks
[19:36] <newbie_87D> xangua:  i did ! but when i open the 'apparence " tool  i don't get the them in the themes list to enable em
[19:37] <xangua> newbie_87D: use ubuntu tweak or unity tweak tools to set themes
[19:38] <newbie_87D> xangua: unity tweak?
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> !info unity-tweak-tool
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> !cosmetics
[19:50] <Semajnad> How can you allow a user to log-into SSH after chrooting them?
[19:50] <Semajnad> For me putty just closes when I try to login
[19:51] <Richhh> trying to install lubuntu, optical drive or its connection seems faulty, giving read errors, bios has options for USB boot devices (USB-FDD, USB-ZIP, USB-HDD, USB-CDROM) but doesnt seem to recognise the bootable USB, running out of options, perhaps I could upgrade my bios to support usb booting?
[19:52] <Richhh> (been trying to install lubuntu on this old pc now for about 2 weeks)
[19:53] <ObrienDave> USB-HDD should work
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> Richhh  any error message?
[19:54] <Richhh> no error, tried all ports, just nothing, goes straight to next device
[19:55] <Richhh> ill double check
[19:57] <Richhh> ok with usb-hdd it gives invalid system disc, looks ok from this computer
[19:58] <Richhh> made with UNetbootin
[19:58] <ObrienDave> could be the burn, did you check MD5 on the DL?
[19:58] <Richhh> think so will check again
[20:00] <sventon> hi all, du you know if there are any desktop environment for Ubuntu based on web technologies ? Like FirefoxOS ?
[20:01] <aze_> sventon: joli-os or so
[20:02] <lucenut> Hey guys. I just installed Mint Cinnamon on a Del XPS M1330 laptop. It's friggin sweet! But I can't get the wireless working.
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[20:03] <Richhh> md5sum is correct
[20:03] <Lzrbeak> hi, sorry if this has been asked a million times, but when will the ubuntu phones be coming out? i can't seem to find a real answer.
[20:03] <lucenut> There's a switch on the laptop, when I turn wifi off, and am looking at the Networking utility that turns Airline mode on.
[20:03] <zetheroo> Ubuntu 13.04 here ... updates were in process and it ground to a halt with the updating of Flash ... had to reboot to get the system update tool to close ... now all browsers are acting like flash player is no longer installed!
[20:03] <xangua> !touch | Lzrbeak
[20:03] <Lzrbeak> xangua: thx
[20:03] <ObrienDave> Richhh, try a re-burn
[20:04] <Richhh> its a usb pen drive btw, but ok
[20:05] <ObrienDave> oh yes, you did mention unetbootin. *hangs head*
[20:05] <sventon> asz_: yes, something like joli. I tried that one out but then it turns out it's not open source! so = "Significant Other" or are there a os called so ?
[20:06] <pahlevani> exit
[20:06] <pahlevani> q
[20:06] <zetheroo> installing "flashplugin-installer" comes to a grinding halt at: "flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>7.orig.tar.gz"
[20:06] <zetheroo> it just sits there
[20:07] <Richhh> possible that the usb filesystem is incompatible, its made from windows 8
[20:07] <lonergan> 5
[20:07] <Richhh> ?
[20:07] <ObrienDave> possible, should be fat32 now
[20:08] <ObrienDave> after unetbootin
[20:08] <Semajnad> If I have a user called admntekkit01 in a group called tekkit01 running an executable, how can I make it so any files created by the executable have read and write permissions for the tekkit01 group?
[20:08] <apofis> ubottu: try to find model fo you wifi card and use google ;) Mint should sue same kernel like Ubuntu LTS
[20:09] <Richhh> its fat32 indeed
[20:09] <apofis> lucenut: try to find model fo you wifi card and use google ;) Mint should sue same kernel like Ubuntu LTS ; ubottu: sorry :D
[20:09] <cynicist> Richhh: Use 'df -h' to find the usb drive location (ex /dev/sdX) and then use 'sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/path/to/usb'
[20:09] <Richhh> ok
[20:10] <kiwi_> i'm going to make a 'virgin' install to my new laptop. it's going to be either 12.04 or 13.10 ubuntu-gnome (using gnome classic anyway). that new laptop has a broadcom wireless chipset, btw. what ubuntu version would you suggest?
[20:10] <cynicist> Richhh: I've had trouble with gui disk creators in the past but dd works great
[20:10] <zetheroo> Anyone else having issues with Flash updating?
[20:11] <ObrienDave> never had a problem with unetbootin
[20:11] <debasis> hello
[20:11] <debasis> i am very new to ubuntu
[20:11] <hggdh> cynicist: ideally the USB filesystem should not be mounted, so 'df -h' would not show it (or it should be umounted before using dd)
[20:12] <debasis> Can any one help me..plz
[20:12] <ObrienDave> !ask
[20:12] <paulus68> !help|debasis
[20:12] <Semajnad> If I have a user called admntekkit01 in a group called tekkit01 running an executable, how can I make it so any files created by the executable have read and write permissions for the tekkit01 group?
[20:13] <cynicist> hggdh: true, I forgot to mention the unmounting
[20:13] <debasis> paulus68...what i have to do?
[20:14] <ObrienDave> ask the question
[20:14] <debasis> !help|debasis
[20:14] <cynicist> Richhh: before using dd start the 'disks' utility and unmount anything automounted
[20:15] <cynicist> Richhh: on your usb drive
[20:15] <sventon> I want to be able to build a desktop application directly in node.js but without Gnome or any other desktop environments. Can you give me some hints where to start ?
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: look up setgid and setuid
[20:16] <darkx239> hi im new to xubuntu what should i do first
[20:17] <ObrienDave> what would you like to do?
[20:17] <darkx239> im just looking for some tips
[20:17] <jmgk> debasis:  ask here :)
[20:18] <ObrienDave> darkx239, well, that would cover about a MILLION things, pick one
[20:19] <cynicist> kiwi_: I recommend the latest for the best hardware support
[20:19] <buu> Does apt keep any kind of log file for install/remove commands?
[20:20] <zetheroo> installing "flashplugin-installer" comes to a grinding halt at: "flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>7.orig.tar.gz"
[20:20] <zetheroo> it just sits there
[20:20] <Richhh> cynicist i only have cygwin on this pc, tried dd and got opening '/cygddrive/f': Is a directory
[20:20] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Would that make files created by an executable have read and write permissions on them?
[20:20] <Richhh> cygdrive*
[20:21] <cynicist> Richhh sorry about that, the commands I posted can't be used under windows
[20:21] <kostkon> zetheroo, close the updater, in terminal, give:  sudo apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:22] <reisio> lesshaste: really, wfm
[20:22] <UrielVigilant> I removed and purged gnustep, but when i reboot Ubuntu 13.10 or terminate , it appear on the black screen something refering: disconecting from GNUSTEP... why ?
[20:22] <reisio> but I'm in FL
[20:22] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: permissions will be defined by the umask of the person who executed the executable (unless specifically overwritten by the executable)
[20:22] <lesshaste> reisio, are you in the US?
[20:22] <zetheroo>  kostkon: it's synaptic package manager .. and it's not closing
[20:22] <reisio> lesshaste: yup
[20:22] <kostkon> zetheroo, hmm
[20:22] <zetheroo>  kostkon: the close button is unreponsive
[20:22] <lesshaste> reisio, could it be geolocated? I am not in the US currently
[20:23] <lesshaste> reisio, I get "You don't have permission to access "http://nystateofhealth.ny.gov/" on this server."
[20:23] <zetheroo>  kostkon: should I use system monitor to kill it?
[20:23] <reisio> lesshaste: that's conceivable
[20:23] <reisio> lesshaste: http://isup.me/nystateofhealth.ny.gov
[20:23] <reisio> it would be daft, but it's conceivable
[20:23] <UrielVigilant> 	I removed and purged gnustep, but when i reboot Ubuntu 13.10 or terminate , it appear on the black screen something refering: disconecting from GNUSTEP... why ? What can i do to put all back again
[20:24] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Can i use the base umask command do this
[20:24] <lesshaste> reisio, well it is up in some sense.. what does is.up test?
[20:24] <lesshaste> can everyone here please try http://nystateofhealth.ny.gov/ ? :)
[20:24]  * lesshaste realises this is very cheeky
[20:24] <kostkon> zetheroo, if it is stuck downloading the packages it's safe to kill it, if it has started to install pacakges not so much
[20:24] <zetheroo> seems to just be at the downloading part
[20:24] <zetheroo> killed it
[20:25] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: So when I type umask in my MCMA folder, it says 0022, how can I make it so whenever a file gets created it gets 775 permissions?
[20:25] <DJones> lesshaste: Its somewhat offtopic for #ubuntu but try megaproxy.com and then go to the website
[20:25] <sammi> Hi all. Installing openstack havana release on ubuntu server 13.10. Do you know where I can find proper documentation on this ?
[20:25] <lesshaste> DJones, thanks
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad umask 0002
[20:25] <bgardner> lesshaste: Works here
[20:25] <DJones> lesshaste: Thats just worked for me while without the proxy it didn't
[20:25] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: What does that do?
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: what os are you using?
[20:25] <lesshaste> bgardner, thanks
[20:25] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu 13.10
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: are you running as root right now?
[20:25] <lesshaste> DJones, interesting!!! Which country?
[20:25] <lesshaste> bgardner, which country?
[20:25] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Yes
[20:26] <bgardner> US
[20:26] <lesshaste> bgardner, aha.. it is geolocated to the US!!
[20:26] <lesshaste> that is so stupid
[20:26] <zetheroo> kostkon: this is what's going on in the terminal :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417747/
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: the umask for users other than root is 0002 ... the umask for root is 0022
[20:26] <zetheroo> kostkon: and it will sit there indefinitely ..
[20:26] <lesshaste> wow
[20:27] <fortinux> exit
[20:27] <lesshaste> reisio, oh well :)
[20:27] <fortinux> q
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: if your umask is 0002 when a folder gets created its permissions are 775 and a file get permissions 664
[20:27] <Richhh> trying usb creator instead now
[20:27] <kostkon> zetheroo, try again later, maybe the server is down or smthing.  do a sudo apt-get clean before attempting it again
[20:27] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: So if I do that command in a directory, it will only apply to that directory>?
[20:27] <zetheroo> kostkon: but the download link works perfectly when done through the browser ..
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: which command exactly?
[20:28] <kostkon> zetheroo, hmm
[20:28] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: umask 0002
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: NO
[20:28] <kostkon> zetheroo, ps -A | grep apt  does it give an output of more than 1 line?
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: umask is get for that session
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: set
[20:29] <bgardner> lesshaste: Works here
[20:29] <bgardner> mt, sorry
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: this is one of the many reasons why you should NEVER be running as root
[20:29] <lesshaste> bgardner, right.. you are in the US
[20:29] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: I'm so confused :P So if the executable is ran by a user called admntekkit01 in the group tekkit01, what would I do to make any files created by that executable be in the group tekkit01 and have group r+w permissions?
[20:30] <lesshaste> bgardner, it seems to be geolocated to the US which is crazy
[20:30] <bgardner> lesshaste: Yeah, cat-on-keyboard hit my history for that comment.  Didn't mean to repeat.
[20:30] <lesshaste> bgardner, no problem
[20:30] <zetheroo> kostkon: just one line " 6907 pts/4    00:00:00 apt-get"
[20:31] <kostkon> zetheroo, is that the one already running? kill it and try again maybe
[20:31] <reisio> lesshaste: as we all know, nobody who is a resident of New York state ever leaves _and_ cares about health insurance
[20:31] <zetheroo> kostkon: I am doing apt-get update ...
[20:31] <lesshaste> reisio, a very good point :)
[20:31] <kostkon> zetheroo, ok
[20:31] <lesshaste> reisio, or is ever for example abroad
[20:31] <lesshaste> fdk
[20:31] <lesshaste> FD
[20:32] <lesshaste> reisio, it's just such a weird way to report the blocking too
[20:32] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: you need to chmod g+ws and chown root:tekkit01 the parent folder       then anyone in that group that creates a file in there (or runs an app that creates a file in there with create the file with tekkkit01 group ownership so what anyone else in that group will be able to edit or delete that file
[20:32] <hwilde> hello is anyone familiar with .ssh/config using ProxyCommand and nc  to do multiple hops?
[20:32] <buu> Oh god help, my sound cards have disappared
[20:32] <buu> *disappeared
[20:33] <nisstyre> buu: reboot
[20:33] <buu> nisstyre: I've rebooted 3-4 times now
[20:33] <nisstyre> buu: what did you do that caused this?
[20:33] <zetheroo> apt-get update is verrrrry slow for me ... especially the archive and security repos
[20:33] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: And that counts for files created by an executable ran by a user of the group tekkit01?
[20:33] <buu> nisstyre: I'm really not sure, the only thing that comes to mind is installing the xubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: yes
[20:33] <nisstyre> buu: have you looked at the output of lspci and dmesg?
[20:33] <cynicist> zetheroo: it's not just you, I just started a reinstall of that from the terminal and it's stuck at the same place
[20:34] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: So can you quickly explain wat g+ws means?
[20:34] <zetheroo> cynicist: flash?
[20:34] <Semajnad> what*
[20:34] <buu> nisstyre: lspci shows sound cards..
[20:34] <nisstyre> buu: then you still have them
[20:34] <nisstyre> buu: is your problem with managing them?
[20:34] <buu> nisstyre: My problem is playing sound out of them, heh
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> g+w = group writable. g+s = setgid    read this for an explanation on setgid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[20:35] <buu> nisstyre: aplay -L doesn't show them
[20:35] <cynicist> zetheroo: yeah, although I guess it was busy dling because it just successfully completed
[20:35] <buu> Is the thing
[20:35] <zetheroo> cynicist: ok ... maybe my mirror is rubbish
[20:36] <nisstyre> buu: lsmod | grep ^snd
[20:36] <nisstyre> see if the correct kernel modules are getting loaded
[20:36] <nisstyre> that's why I suggested rebooting btw
[20:36] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO:  I just ran the executable and a new file created only had -rw-r--r--
[20:36] <buu> nisstyre: There's a bunch getting loaded
[20:36] <cynicist> zetheroo: may want to try 'apt-get install flashplugin-installer' and see what the output is
[20:36] <nisstyre> buu: any that correspond to the soundcard you're trying to play sound from?
[20:37] <zetheroo> cynicist:  paste.ubuntu.com/6417747/
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: That's because you are root. you should not be using root! the umask for users other than root is 0002 ... the umask for root is 0022
[20:37] <buu> nisstyre: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417793/
[20:37] <nisstyre> buu: for example on my machine I have an Intel sound card and it loads a bunch of snd_hda modules
[20:37] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: I'm not running the executable as root, it's ran by admntekkit01
[20:37] <buu> nisstyre: I don't know which modules correspond to which card
[20:37] <zetheroo> cynicist: how long did it take to download for you?
[20:38] <cynicist> zetheroo: yeah I had the same, and it seemed to be stuck but suddenly it completed
[20:38] <zetheroo> huh
[20:38] <buu> nisstyre: But if you look at the aplay output, I should have the alsa defaults, the intel card and a bunch of nvidia devices
[20:38] <buu> nisstyre: And I did like an hour ago =]
[20:38] <nisstyre> buu: are you sure the program you're trying to play sound with is configured to use that soundcard?
[20:38] <zetheroo> cynicist: really odd because if you use that link via a browser the download is over in 5 seconds ...
[20:39] <cynicist> zetheroo: my output http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417800/
[20:39] <buu> nisstyre: Dude look at the paste
[20:39] <nisstyre> buu: that doesn't tell me
[20:39] <nisstyre> are you using aplay to play sound?
[20:39] <cynicist> zetheroo: it took maybe 20 seconds
[20:39] <buu> Yes
[20:39] <buu> aplay doesn't produce sound and DOESN'T SEE THE SOUND CARDS.
[20:39] <zetheroo> cynicist: ok, well mine has been sitting there for over a minute for sure
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: how did you run it is asmntekkit01 exactly?
[20:40] <buu> How could I configure anything to use a sound card if aplay doesn't see it?
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: sudo -u ?
[20:40] <zetheroo> can't I just use apt-get to install the downloaded package?
[20:41] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: No, I gave admntekkit01 rwx permissions on the folder and content and ran it with ./MCMA_x86_64
[20:41] <BluesKaj> BoomerBile. what chip does alsamixer show ?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> oops buu
[20:41] <nisstyre> buu: what does aplay -l output? (lowercase l)
[20:41] <kostkon> zetheroo, dpkg -i flashxxx.deb
[20:41] <zetheroo> ok
[20:41] <cynicist> zetheroo: no because it isn't a deb file
[20:41] <kostkon> zetheroo, eer with sudo obviously
[20:41] <zetheroo> oh right
[20:42] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: as root you typed ./MCMA_x86_64 ?
[20:42] <buu> nisstyre: just card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[20:42] <BluesKaj> buu. I'll repeat, what chip does alsamixer show ?
[20:42] <cynicist> zetheroo: you can extract it and copy it to /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[20:42] <zetheroo> here is the full output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417819/
[20:42] <buu> BluesKaj: The only thing alsamixer shows me is a single device for Chip: Nvidia GPU 14 HDMI/DP
[20:42] <buu> (Nvidia HDMI/DP should have 4 devices)
[20:42] <buu> (And the intel device)
[20:43] <nisstyre> buu: you're saying you have two soundcards right?
[20:43] <Richhh> again, invalid system disc
[20:43] <buu> Yes
[20:43] <cynicist> zetheroo: oh that is fixable, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure update-notifier-common'
[20:43] <Semajnad> No hitsujiTMO , as admntekkit01 I did that.
[20:43] <nisstyre> because I only see the nvidia one
[20:43] <nisstyre> ok
[20:43] <cynicist> zetheroo: then try it again
[20:43] <zetheroo> ok
[20:43] <buu> nisstyre: I have onboard intel chip + nvidia hdmi card
[20:43] <zetheroo> hmm
[20:44] <zetheroo> zeth@zeth-ThinkPad-R61:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure update-notifier-common
[20:44] <zetheroo> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: update-notifier-common is broken or not fully installed
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: how did you login as admntekkit01?
[20:44] <buu> And the nvidia card should have 4+ devices available
[20:44] <nisstyre> buu: there could be an issue with the card itself
[20:44] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: through SSH why?
[20:44] <nisstyre> buu: or some kernel module isn't getting loaded
[20:44] <nisstyre> or there's a bug that's preventing it from getting detected
[20:44] <cynicist> zetheroo: try apt-get install --reinstall update-notifier-common
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: if that's the case then MCMA_x86_64 is specifying it's own permissions
[20:45] <BluesKaj> buu. sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel , then reboot
[20:45] <Richhh> guess im just gonna have to exhaust every option on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:45] <nisstyre> BluesKaj: he has that module loaded
[20:45] <nisstyre> BluesKaj: and he rebooted
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: that you don't have control over
[20:45] <Richhh> then call it a day if it still hasnt worked
[20:45] <buu> BluesKaj: Uh how would modprobe + reboot do anything?
[20:45] <zetheroo> E: Internal Error, No file name for update-notifier-common:amd64
[20:45] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Why, MCMA creates files with default permissions -rw-r--r--
[20:45] <nisstyre> buu: you might have a busted soundcard
[20:46] <buu> both cards suddenly busted?
[20:46] <cynicist> zetheroo: if that doesn't work you can fix it in synaptic, Edit > Fix broken packages
[20:46] <{-r-}> apt-get install --reinstall update-notifier-common works it just worked for me
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: because the person who wrote it thought it was a good idea
[20:46] <BluesKaj> load the driver , it's a common intel bug , buu
[20:46] <nisstyre> buu: well you're not connecting your audio equipment to the nvidia one are you?
[20:46] <buu> nisstyre: I am
[20:46] <zetheroo> cynicist: ok will try that
[20:46] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: No I'm saying it creates filers with default permissions, so surely it's not creating the perms itself.
[20:46] <nisstyre> buu: then you might have two separate but related issues
[20:46] <cynicist> zetheroo: I don't know the equivalent apt command unfortunately
[20:46] <fortinux> quit:
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: it can create files with whatever permissions it wants
[20:47] <nisstyre> buu: if the intel card is not getting detected at all then I suspect a hardware problem
[20:47] <BluesKaj> buu. , but you can acarry on trying other things if you wish , it's your call
[20:47] <nisstyre> buu: if the nvidia one IS getting detected then the hardware is probably fine
[20:47] <nisstyre> but there is some other issue preventing sound from working
[20:47] <buu> nisstyre: The nvidia one *isn't* getting properly detected
[20:47] <BluesKaj> too many cooks anyway
[20:47] <nisstyre> buu: by "detected" I mean showing up when you do aplay -l
[20:47] <berga> hey haven't installed ubuntu in a long while and I feel I must praise the new installer (as of 12.04) - really love how streamlined everything is
[20:47] <nisstyre> buu: also you never pasted the output of lspci, does the intel one show up there?
[20:48] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: http://www.bashguru.com/2010/03/creating-user-group-and-shared.html that looks promising
[20:48] <berga> so <2
[20:48] <berga> i spell like someone on valium
[20:48] <berga> so apologies
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: that link is exactly what i told you already
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: from the user admntekkit01 what is the output of: umask
[20:50] <berga> do you have a !rules macro for this channel? don't want to spam irrelevance and get banned?
[20:51] <berga> !rules
[20:51] <buu> nisstyre: Yes they both show up in lspci
[20:51] <berga> thank you
[20:52] <nisstyre> buu: then I'm blaming ALSA and/or aplay
[20:52] <cynicist> berga: yeah it is still the best installer imo, especially after recently trying the new fedora installer and nearly tearing my hair out
[20:52] <berga> cynicist, havent tried fedora since about 2002
[20:52] <berga> i think
[20:53] <berga> as a long time windows user I can't understand why they don't start installing while you're inputting localization settings and username
[20:53] <berga> just makes everything feel faster
[20:53] <nisstyre> buu: I guess purging alsa and reinstalling it might help
[20:54] <nisstyre> buu: btw, is the intel card a surround sound card?
[20:54] <buu> yes
[20:55] <nisstyre> buu: alsa is known to be pretty buggy with surround sound cards, particularly with things like dmix
[20:56] <berga> also love that clean map thing where you select your timezone
[20:56] <BluesKaj> modprobe and reboot should fix the kernel module loading , buu , I'm serious
[20:56] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: 0022
[20:56] <buu> BluesKaj: A) I already tried it B) rebooting wipes out any modprobe
[20:56] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: and you ssh'd in as admntekkit01?
[20:56] <nisstyre> BluesKaj: I don't believe it would, since kernel modules get reloaded on every reboot
[20:57] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: yes
[20:57] <morbidick> Hi, has anyone here experimented with displaylink setups?
[20:58] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: then you've changed the default umask
[20:58] <morbidick> i got the green screen working but from there on nothing else :/
[20:59] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: where did you change it?
[21:00] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: I don't know, how can I change it back?
[21:00] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Is that specific to just that user then?
[21:01] <buu> If I boot ubuntu from a livecd it finds all my sound cards.
[21:01] <buu> Boy that's annoying.
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: depends on where you've changed it. there's about 500 different ways you can change the default umask
[21:01] <nisstyre> buu: which is evidence that your alsa install is the problem
[21:01] <buu> nisstyre: Yeah..
[21:01] <buu> I'm unsure how to reinstall it though?
[21:01] <Danato> hitsujiTMO,  is it possible to restore ubuntu's default drivers?
[21:01] <nisstyre> buu: purge it
[21:02] <nisstyre> that will delete all configs and stuff
[21:02] <nisstyre> and then reinstalling it will create fresh ones
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: drivers for what?
[21:02] <buu> just purge alsa?
[21:02] <nisstyre> yeah
[21:02] <BluesKaj> nisstyre. well, it usualy works, but if the ctrls arent setup correctly and pavucontrol outputs aren't set , then whether the kernel module loads or not is immaterial
[21:02] <buu> Which specific package
[21:02] <nisstyre> I can't remember offhand and I'm on an Arch machine atm
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: for graffics?
[21:03] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, I need my power management back,  and graphics started acting weird, like the transparency of my terminal is gone
[21:04] <cm-t> hi, I am looking for an ubuntu themed template for libreOffice impress ( something more updated than http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/presentation/ubuntu-new-template please)
[21:04] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, maybe it only affects the graphics
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: if its graphics drivers then removing the proprietary driver brings it back to the original
[21:05] <zetheroo> nothing I do is getting this flashplugin-installer installed ...
[21:05] <cynicist> Danato: which driver do you want to restore? Is it for amd/ati graphics?
[21:05] <Danato> cynicist, intel and nvidia
[21:06] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, i ddnt have a proprietary driver till a moment ago, when i installed Nvidia drivers but it ddnt solve anything
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: what way did you install it? through apt-get ?
[21:07] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, i went to nvidia's website and downloaded the driver for my card
[21:07] <cynicist> zetheroo: the problem is update-notifier-common, it's a dependency of flashplugin-installer
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: ahhh ... not sure how to remove that then. there should be instructions with the download
[21:08] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, the problem is that earlier i removed and purged the power management (big mistake) and i cant get it back
[21:09] <cynicist> zetheroo: did you try apt-get -f update-notifier-common?
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections
[21:09] <zetheroo> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[21:09] <Danato> cynicist, E: Invalid operation update-notifier-common
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo: run: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:10] <cynicist> zetheroo: run that :)
[21:11] <zetheroo> so then I do "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and then get stuck at the flashplugin-installer issue again
[21:11] <cm-t> hi, I am looking for an ubuntu themed Template for LibreOffice Impress ( something more updated than http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/presentation/ubuntu-new-template please)
[21:11] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, thats a huge list, the terminal cant show it all
[21:11] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: use pastebinit
[21:12] <cynicist> zetheroo: do sudo apt-get purge update-notifier-common && sudo apt-get install update-notifier-common
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> cm-t  in the libreoffice channel maybe?
[21:12] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, I cant select the text
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: then: dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[21:12] <cm-t> MonkeyDust: i'm trying now
[21:13] <zetheroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6417963/
[21:13] <zetheroo> y or n ? :)
[21:13] <cynicist> zetheroo: yes and then reinstall those packages
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo: all you have to do is run: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:14] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, Traceback (most recent call last):
[21:14] <Danato>   File "/usr/bin/pastebinit", line 43, in <module>
[21:14] <Danato>     import configobj
[21:14] <Danato> ImportError: No module named configobj
[21:15] <Engin> what is the recommended web server for ubuntu nowadays? still apache? I need to run PHP on it. apache2-mpm-prefork (default) is vulnerable to fork bombs, apcahe2-mpm-[event|worker] requires PHP CGI at least. So I think it is ugly.
[21:15] <reisio> Engin: nginx
[21:15] <reisio> but PHP isn't recommended :p
[21:15] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: hmm. i guess your setup has gotten into a very mess state
[21:15] <reisio> PHP is just plain vulnerable
[21:15] <Engin> php is shit yes but it is required for now so...
[21:16] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: php isn't vulnerable, just all the apps written for it :P
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> like android ;-)
[21:16] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: it's both
[21:16] <reisio> Engin: cgi is good
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: try this: dpkg --get-selections | grep deinstall
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: should be a much shorter list
[21:18] <kiwi_> are there any reasons for using 32 bit instead 64 bit on recent systems (i3 and above)?
[21:18] <reisio> kiwi_: none
[21:18] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, is there some kind of system restore? I really wouldnt mind, i have nothing important here. The most important thing is the script that you made so i could login with backlight
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> kiwi: lack of ram is the only reason
[21:18] <kiwi_> ok, thx
[21:18] <cynicist> kiwi_: no
[21:19]  * reisio headdesks
[21:19] <kiwi_> reisio, i havent dealt with hardware issues for a long time. i was happy with my t61 thinkpad until today
[21:19]  * BoomerBile helps reisio headdesk a few more times
[21:20] <reisio> BoomerBile: you, friend
[21:20] <BoomerBile> wwe!
[21:20] <BoomerBile> sup reisio
[21:20] <BoomerBile> i'm peeking around another window saw you headdesk
[21:20] <kiwi_> cynicist. ok
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> kiwi_: theres a small extra overhead cost in ram for 64bit over 32bit so if you're extremely tight on ram, 32bit can save you a small amount BUT at a cost of reduced processing speed.
[21:21] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/tiMQfKyi
[21:22] <Kamuela> hitsujiTMO: Ended up reinstalling Windows 8.1, choosing a smaller partition, then live CD gparted to move my linux partitions up and resize, now i'm having grub issues big time
[21:22] <kiwi_> hitsujiTMO, alright ... ram is no prob
[21:22] <reisio> TMI
[21:22] <kiwi_> hitsujiTMO, alright ... 4 gb is far enough, i guess
[21:22] <Kamuela> hitsujiTMO: grub now enters rescue mode, and i can't seem to figure out how to fix it
[21:23] <cynicist> Kamuela: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd
[21:23] <berga> Hmm, question: been installing 12.04 in a virtualbox and everything went really quick and smooth for awhile, but it seems to have stopped at ...maybe 80-85% for awhile.. is this normal?
[21:23] <morbidick> hi, is there any possibility to install xserver-xorg-video-displaylink without compiling it from source in 13.10?
[21:23] <berga> my virtual hdd is 32 gigs
[21:24] <berga> 512 ram
[21:24] <hitsujiTMO> kiwi_: when i said tight i meant like <512MB tight. you're not gonna notice the ram usage difference with 4gb, but you might notice the speed difference so yeah, defo 64bit :p
[21:24] <kiwi_> ok
[21:24] <berga> and its 32 bit
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: try installing gnome-power-manager to get your power manager back
[21:26] <Kamuela> cynicist: my boot directory isn't empty, but there are no mod files in it. just fonts/grubenv/etc
[21:26] <kiwi_> i'm thinking about installing virtualbox for installing twice ubuntu, one for normal tasks and one for 'high security' task.  what performancecost do i have to expect, running two ubuntus simultanously?
[21:26] <berga> I'm no expert but have some extra cores and ram
[21:27] <Danato> hitsujiTMO, thats great! but i guess i should reboot
[21:27] <Kamuela> cynicist: I think I figured it out, I'll brb either with more problems or with news of success
[21:27] <zetheroo> after everything this is still as far as I get:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6418023/
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> Kamuela: boot the live cd and try this https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FBoot-Repair&ei=LUCFUtDcIvKw7Aau84GQBg&usg=AFQjCNF2vJ-XPgGloXrPuZess9mOE6ou2A&bvm=bv.56343320,d.ZGU
[21:27] <Danato> brb
[21:28] <cynicist> Kamuela: you have to update grub since you changed stuff related to your partitions
[21:28] <cynicist> zetheroo: that's good, you no longer have that error at least
[21:29] <zetheroo> cynicist: yeah - but it just sits there ... back to square one
[21:29] <zetheroo> if I do CTRL-C I will get the same error as before ...
[21:30] <cynicist> zetheroo: yeah just give it some time, if it doesn't work you can always install flash manually at least
[21:30] <kiwi_> berga, whats your opinion about virtualbox, overall?
[21:31] <sdfs> Helloo
[21:31] <sdfs> hi
[21:31] <berga> kiwi_, I haven't used it a whole lot to be perfectly honest, but I find it can be useful to sorta plan your future install
[21:32] <berga> for example I'm planning a reinstall of arch, which I stupidly dual booted with no planning the first time
[21:32] <zetheroo> cynicist: how to install manually?
[21:32] <kiwi_> berga, did it slow down your system significantly?
[21:32] <berga> so I had to wipe it because I bloated it
[21:32] <zetheroo> cynicist: I extracted the tar.gz ...
[21:32] <berga> meh not so much but I don't run any servers or anything
[21:33] <kiwi_> ok
[21:33] <berga> kiwi_, just fire it up when I'm in the mood
[21:33] <kiwi_> yep
[21:33] <berga> I'm sort of a casual/lazy nerd
[21:33] <cynicist> zetheroo: I mean all that package does is download that archive and then extract libflashplayer.so and copy it to /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[21:34] <berga> settling for windows since it works but always been really interested in the FOSS scene
[21:34] <berga> plus you can make linux look a lot more sexy than you can winblows
[21:34] <Kamuela> cynicist: still in grub rescue, used windows 8 boot disk to make windows 8 active again and i'm in windows 8. what _could_ be my issues?
[21:35] <berga> not a comp-sci major or anything even close, just a novice enthusiast
[21:35] <kiwi_> berga, do two virtualbox instances share the same ip or can you make the look like two completely different machines to the web?
[21:35] <zetheroo> cynicist: ok I copied it there
[21:36] <berga> kiwi_, that I do not know. I would expect they share an external IP in you have router, but internal IP I cannot say
[21:36] <berga> I only ever ran one instance
[21:36] <kiwi_> ok
[21:36] <cynicist> zetheroo: now you can restart firefox and check about:plugins to see if it found it
[21:36] <Kamuela> cynicist: i've checked all disks for errors in gparted, no problems, my current layout is 1 hard disk, /sda1(win8 reserved) /sda2(win 8 ntfs) /sda3(/) /sda4->/sda5(logical /home)
[21:36] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Thank you for your help, in the end I've decided to just have a master tekkit01 that all managers log into to use SFTP. Quick question, how can I give someone SSH access to their chroot directory? At the moment the putty window just closes when they try to login to SSH
[21:37] <zetheroo> cynicist: nope it doesn't see to have
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: that i don't know i'm afraid
[21:37] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Okay :)
[21:37] <Kamuela> cynicist: i've always had grub on /dev/sda2 and used windows to make active, with the new windows install it created a new partition that bumped everything down by 1 number on the sda list. i think that's where the massive issues are coming in
[21:37] <cynicist> zetheroo: copy the so file to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[21:38] <UrielVigilant> Some one can help me to figure out, what it is GNUstep, and why after remove and purge, on reboot or terminat, ubuntu 13.10 says that " Stopping GNUstep... cant find directory ... xxxxx/xxxx//////////////////////..
[21:39] <Kamuela> cynicist: basically my disk layout changed a lot, and i think grub needs to be properly reinstalled and reconfigured. update-grub and grub-install don't seem to be working out for me i dunno.
[21:39] <zetheroo> cynicist: ok!! It's working in Firefox now :D
[21:39] <cynicist> Kamuela: yep, which is why I linked for you how to update grub
[21:39] <berga> kiwi_, just for perspective I'm running on an old intel dual core with 4G ram and it seems to do the job for a single vbox instance
[21:39] <zetheroo> cynicist: would you know how to get it working in Chromium?
[21:39] <cynicist> zetheroo: hehe the old school way, glad it worked out :)
[21:40] <Kamuela> cynicist: did that guide, still had the same boot rescue. boot rescue means that GRUB is working, right? i mean it's called grub boot. it just doesn't know its config files?
[21:40] <berga> perhaps a tad slow as it's configured to use only one of the cores as well as 512 meg ram
[21:40] <zetheroo> cynicist: nevermind ... it working in Chromium too ;)
[21:40] <zetheroo> cynicist: thanks a million!
[21:40] <cynicist> zetheroo: yeah chromium checks there too
[21:40] <cynicist> zetheroo: np man :)
[21:42] <xalid> hi
[21:42] <Kamuela> cynicist: i'll brb on the live CD
[21:42] <cynicist> Kamuela: I don't understand, what message did you get after doing update-grub?
[21:42] <hylian> what is the easiest and simplest way to transfer files from one ubuntu machine to another via wireless networks? I tried samba, but I am not doing something right... please suggest gui options if at all possible.
[21:42] <UrielVigilant> gnustep!
[21:42] <Kamuela> cynicist: i'll be back in 2 minutes and will get you the message
[21:42] <kiwi_> berga, ok ... will installing virtualbox 'mess up' the whole system or is it easy to return to the non-virtualbox configuration?
[21:43] <cynicist> hylian: install system-config-samba and use that to configure the share
[21:44] <cynicist> hylian: it's graphical
[21:44] <berga> kiwi_, well as my host os is windows I can just use add/remove programs
[21:44] <hylian> cynicist: did that, the other machine will not connect to it no matter what. i used gigolo, maybe i need somehting else?
[21:44] <berga> kiwi_, no idea how to do it on linux tbh
[21:44] <berga> basically its just an app
[21:45] <berga> in which you can run an OS iso you download from ubuntu.com or wherever
[21:45] <berga> like an emulator you could say
[21:45] <kiwi_> berga, the host is windows ... ok thats completely different game
[21:45] <kamuela> cynicist, ok i'm back, would you mind linking that guide one more time? i remember the gist of it but not exactly how to get everything mounted perfectly
[21:45] <cynicist> hylian: can't you just navigate to the share?
[21:45] <berga> kiwi_, ah sorry then, wasted a bit of your time there
[21:46] <kiwi_> gotta go, bye ...
[21:46] <kiwi_> no problem
[21:46] <hylian> cynicist: but how, what app? what cli command??
[21:46] <cynicist> kamuela: sure thing, the key is you need to mount the right partition and chroot into it to make it work
[21:46] <cynicist> kamuela: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd
[21:46] <berga> i'm afk now, any text with my name will be saved, byebye
[21:47] <cynicist> hylian: what OS are you using to browse the share? ubuntu?
[21:47] <em> hylian: ssh and rsync are the best way to transfer files between any two linux oses
[21:48] <hylian> cynicist: both machines are running xubuntu 12.04.3 64 bit
[21:48] <em> hylian: nautilus has a graphical file browser that can connect to servers and copy files
[21:48] <hylian> em: so is rsync a samba app, or another protocol?
[21:48] <cynicist> hylian: just use thunar like nautilus
[21:49] <cynicist> hylian: click browse network and find the share from there
[21:49] <em> rsync is a standalone program, yeah its a command line, but its easer to learn that then to learn how to configure a samba server
[21:49] <kamuela> cynicist, how would i alter this list of steps to simply reinstall grub to /dev/sda3?
[21:49] <hylian> cynicist: it just showed up... wowsa, i have some serious lag. thanks!
[21:49] <cynicist> hylian: np :)
[21:50] <hylian> em: it decided NOW to co-operate... strange...
[21:50] <em> great
[21:50] <Neoromantique> Hi, Guys.
[21:50] <Neoromantique>   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       664
[21:50] <Neoromantique> Should I be worried about it?
[21:50] <Danato> so how can i reset my ubuntu to default? all fresh new again?
[21:51] <reisio> Danato: which aspect?
[21:51] <cynicist> kamuela: where it says 'sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt', change /dev/sda5 to /dev/sda3 (assuming that is your / partition)
[21:51] <Danato> reisio, every packages, settings, etc. I dont care what goes with it
[21:52] <Danato> reisio, oh yeah and drivers
[21:52] <imanc> I'm having major issues with my laptop which is running Ubuntu 12.04 and Cinamon (via a ppm).  All of a sudden it intermittently fails to boot, hanging on the ubuntu load screen. And when I run recovery and try to run fsck it exists with status 1 when attempting to check /home.  I can't see anything in particular in the logs...
[21:52] <reisio> Danato: ah, well the most time conscious way would probably be to just reinstall, but
[21:52] <reisio> Danato: why would you want to?
[21:53] <cynicist> kamuela: then follow every step but ignore the bit that says, 'sudo mount /dev/sdaX /mnt/boot'
[21:53] <em> imanc: sounds like a serious disk error,  boot a live cd and then run fsck
[21:53] <Danato> reisio, I realized that ive been spending too much time fixing little important things that i broke, it takes way more time and effort to get them back than doing an installation
[21:54] <imanc> em: OK, makes sense thanks
[21:54] <Danato> reisio, it wasnt all bad though, i learned a lot hehehe
[21:54] <em> when jack is running then regular apps such as "play foo.wav"  don't work, they freeze.  But when jack is not running then music apps such as ardour don't work.  there must be a solution to this problem.  Ive read that there is a plugin that enables jack to service alsa apps, but how do I install it and will it work with pulseaudio?
[21:54] <em> ive been reading my way through mountains of docs, but have not found the answer yet, a few hints would be really appreciated.
[21:55] <OPTIMUS_> I've managed to mess up my ubuntu 12.04 setup by uninstalling a few packages. I cannot log-in through the GUI anymore, I get "unable to load session 'ubuntu'. I've logged in through the terminal and i'm trying to run apt-get commands to fix the problem, but I can't fetch anything. Any help?
[21:56] <kamuela> cynicist, instead of update-grub can i do grub-install?
[21:56] <jhutchins_wk> Ah well.  Upgrade experiment unsucessful.  Nither going 2G -> 4G of RAM nor an Intel PCI Pro1000 NIC got me any more than 425M down.
[21:56] <jhutchins_wk> And oops, not the channel I thought I was in, sorry.
[21:57] <em> Danato: OPTIMUS_:  one approach to getting a healty system is to copy the same os from another computer or partition.   you must be using a live cd at the time.
[21:57] <cynicist> kamuela: did windows replace grub with its own bootloader?
[21:57] <kamuela> cynicist, no, but i think i may have deleted grub in my previous attempts to fix it... although how can i have done that if i still get grub rescue?
[21:57] <troulouliou_dev> hi i want to have a custom group on a usb device ; i have added this rule to udev but it don't set the correct group : ACTION=="add", BUS=="usb", SYSFS{idVendor}=="1532", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0101", MODE="0660", GROUP="plugdev"
[21:58] <troulouliou_dev> vid/pid are correct
[21:58] <Danato> em, i dont have any other ubuntu around me, a reinstall will do it jst fine
[21:59] <cynicist> kamuela: tell me the output of update-grub
[21:59] <Shinobi> http://askubuntu.com/questions/88523/creating-a-mount-point-if-it-does-not-exist
[21:59] <Hai_Karate> kamuela-  this might help..It has saved me a lot of work. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[21:59] <Shinobi> can someone explain why I don't need to create a mount point for media based filesystems
[21:59] <Shinobi> see link above
[21:59] <Hai_Karate> takes all but 1 minute
[22:00] <OPTIMUS_> I get fetch errors only on 'apt-get update, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[22:00] <kamuela> cynicist, http://pastebin.com/Lr42XqD4
[22:00] <cynicist> kamuela: I mean honestly you can just run 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' and then 'sudo update-grub' after
[22:00] <OPTIMUS_> Also it says I have gnome-session installed, but under GUI options i only have Ubuntu2D
[22:01] <Danato> well ill be back :)
[22:02] <cynicist> kamuela: do this, 'sudo apt-get purge grub grub-pc grub-common && sudo apt-get install grub-common grub-pc'
[22:02] <kamuela> cynicist, from right where i am with chroot?
[22:02] <cynicist> kamuela: yes
[22:02] <Hai_Karate> and then update grub
[22:03] <cynicist> it should do that on its own
[22:04] <kamuela> cynicist, http://pastebin.com/8PXE0eRc
[22:05] <cynicist> kamuela: can you apt-get update?
[22:05] <kamuela> cynicist, i cannot, it is trying to use my xubuntu install's apt i think
[22:06] <cynicist> kamuela: yeah that shouldn't be a problem though
[22:06] <kamuela> it says it can't resolve anything
[22:07] <kamuela> in terms of http
[22:07] <Danato> These phones nowadays...
[22:09] <kamuela> cynicist, i have removed grub while chrooted, is there a way to just install grub onto a mounted disk?
[22:09] <kamuela> cynicist, from non-chroot
[22:10] <tripelb> Is there a memtest to run on my ram inside the system or must I get a livecd to do it?
[22:11] <reisio> tripelb: there should be an option in grub menu
[22:11] <genii> tripelb: It's best to do it from dedicated memtest
[22:11] <Waka_Flocka> can someone help me, my OS cant detect the cpu fan
[22:11] <Waka_Flocka> when i use the "sensors" command i get....
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> acpitz-virtual-0
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> Adapter: Virtual device
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> temp1:        +69.0°C  (crit = +110.0°C)
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> coretemp-isa-0000
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> Adapter: ISA adapter
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> Core 0:       +74.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> jacolby@jacolby-Aspire-4330:~$ sensors
[22:12] <FloodBot1> Waka_Flocka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> o crap sorry
[22:12] <kamuela> cynicist, I'm about to try: udo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda3
[22:12] <Waka_Flocka> but http://paste.ubuntu.com/6418226/
[22:13] <Waka_Flocka> the past few days the fan just stopped working but it works in windows
[22:13] <cynicist> kamuela: don't
[22:13] <cynicist> kamuela: you need to install to /dev/sda
[22:13] <troulouliou_dev> hi is it possible to shutdown network-manager as in 13.04 now ?
[22:13] <troulouliou_dev> is seems that it isn't a service anymore
[22:13] <kamuela> cynicist, installing it to the whole disk will break things pretty badly
[22:14] <kamuela> cynicist, i've always installed it to my /boot partition and then used windows to make that partition the active one
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> troulouliou_dev, I can in the shell, look closer I would say.
[22:14] <troulouliou_dev> wilee-nilee, service network-manager stop don't work anymore
[22:14] <cynicist> kamuela: ah, you use the windows bootloader instead?
[22:15] <troulouliou_dev> i only have networking as services
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> Waka_Flocka, Do you have lm-sensors installed
[22:15] <troulouliou_dev> but this one close the session
[22:15] <Waka_Flocka> yes i do
[22:15] <cynicist> troulouliou_dev: sudo stop network-manager
[22:15] <kamuela> cynicist, http://pastebin.com/XJ6N5tQX what does that mean?
[22:15] <Waka_Flocka> ive rescanned several times with sudo sensors-detect too
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> kamuela: you DO NOT install a bootstrap to a partition. you install it to the disk. installing it to a partition can break the filesystem in that partition
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> Waka_Flocka, use nicks if you can, you can tab complete them, did you run the lm-senors cli?
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> Waka_Flocka, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[22:17] <Waka_Flocka> wilee-nilee: yeah it cant even find lm-sensors cli
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> Waka_Flocka, Take a look at the link I mean this, sudo sensors-detect
[22:17] <cynicist> kamuela: you should either install grub to your mbr (/dev/sda not /dev/sda3) and let it automagically handle things or you need to configure your windows bootloader to recognize your ubuntu install
[22:17] <spike_> hi
[22:18] <Waka_Flocka> ah ok
[22:18] <Waka_Flocka> yeah ill put it into another device because the computer is close to overheating again
[22:18] <Waka_Flocka> 85 degrees C
[22:18] <ahoneybun_> my windows 8 gives me access is denied on when I try to access my samba on debian'
[22:19] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, are you prompted to enter credentials ?
[22:19] <cynicist> kamuela: like it is described here, http://askubuntu.com/questions/62440/is-it-possible-to-boot-ubuntu-using-the-windows-bootloader/62442#62442
[22:19] <kamuela> hitsujiTMO, cynicist, had i not broke what was going on by letting windows add another partition, my system would have worked fine. the issue is now grub rescue.
[22:20] <ahoneybun_> troulouliou_dev: troulouliou_dev yes
[22:20] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, and you can access from any other box ?
[22:20] <ahoneybun_> troulouliou_dev: get the same error I believe
[22:20] <Bronze> Hi, I just dropped a hrad drive from 2008 into a desktop box. It has an old version of Ubuntu on it.  Anyone know what the cammand is to re-evaluate the hardware?
[22:20] <cynicist> kamuela: if you let windows manage the boot order then all you did was confuse grub, which means you need to run update-grub from the chrooted ubuntu environment and that's it
[22:21] <Bronze> (on Centos/Redhat this command is kudzu)
[22:21] <Bronze> *command
[22:21] <cynicist> kamuela: I don't know why you insist in installing grub if you don't want it installed to disk and it is already in the ubuntu install
[22:21] <PanicFox> I need help with my ubuntu install!
[22:21] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, create a smb user with the same name as a linux user ex : sudo smbpasswd -a ahoneybun
[22:22] <ahoneybun_> I made one name backups
[22:22] <PanicFox> Im trying to setup a piece of crap computer so i can donate it to a local charity
[22:22] <kamuela> cynicist, i'll install grub to the whole disk. if it fixes everything, sounds good. i guess i don't mind spending the rest of the day doing a fresh install of windows and ubuntu if not
[22:22] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, then add a share in smb.conf or through nautilus/nemo-share
[22:22] <PanicFox> Can anyone help me?
[22:23] <ahoneybun_> troulouliou_dev: post my smb.conf file on pastie?
[22:23] <ahoneybun_> pastebin
[22:23] <cynicist> kamuela: grub doesn't break anything, if you install it you can even configure it to boot windows by default instead of Ubuntu
[22:23] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, no i ll past you a small snipet of conf for a share in pm
[22:23] <kamuela> cynicist, sudo grub-install /dev/sda ?
[22:23] <cynicist> kamuela: well first, did you try update-grub and what was the output?
[22:24] <kamuela> cynicist, update grub from within chroot?
[22:24] <cynicist> kamuela: yes, because if that works there is no need to install it to the disk
[22:24] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, just add this to the end of the smb.conf and set valid users to the user created with smbpasswd
[22:24] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, should work then
[22:25] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, nautiluls share add the same in /var/lib/samba/shares
[22:25] <kamuela> cynicist, it did say it works, it goes through and detects my linux kernels and windows 8. it's what i pastebin'd first. but when i restart... grub rescue
[22:26] <riceandbeans> ubuntu's had a lot of bad pr lately...
[22:27] <ahoneybun_> troulouliou_dev: still the same error
[22:30] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, check then your debian server do not met the minium local sec policies from your win8 box
[22:30] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, in general this is because the lm authentificaiton level is set to ntlmV2 minimum
[22:31] <ahoneybun_> troulouliou_dev: can't get on it with my mothers Ubuntu notebook neither
[22:31] <Danato> Somehow unity never seemed to deal well my the wifi network I use most of the time, thats one of the reasons I installed kde
[22:31] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, ha then it is definitively user issue
[22:31] <troulouliou_dev> did you restart smbd ?
[22:31] <ahoneybun_> yes
[22:32] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun_, sorry don't know then ;(
[22:32] <ahoneybun_> I had it once
[22:32] <troulouliou_dev> thats all the problem i have faced so far :)
[22:32] <ahoneybun_> idk what messed it up so I did reformat the system
[22:32] <ahoneybun_> troulouliou_dev: thanks anyway
[22:39] <Gorroth> in maximized mode, does anyone know how to move the titlebar buttons to the right? i've alrady done it for windowed buttons using gsettings
[22:40] <joossee> Gorroth, which WM are you using?
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> Gorroth, I think the dconf-editor will do it ubuntu-tweak does I think too.
[22:40] <joossee> wilee-nilee, does that work with unity 2d?
[22:40] <Gorroth> yeah, i think i just found a page talking about dconf-editor.  i heard ubuntu tweak does it too, but i didn't want to use that app since it's not in the repo
[22:40] <Gorroth> joossee: unity on 13.10
[22:40] <ubuntu> chat
[22:41] <joossee> Gorroth, youve tried myuntiy and compiz settings?
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> joossee, I would think so, just a guess though, isn't 2D only in 12.04?
[22:41] <joossee> im on 12.04
[22:41] <Gorroth> joossee: no, didn't know about those
[22:41] <Gorroth> but i'm checking dconf-editor now
[22:41] <joossee> i really just wanna change my titlebar colors... which is apparently impossible
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> Gorroth, Not sure if 12.04 is still gconf-editor either, hehe
[22:42] <joossee> gordonjcp, ccsm is what you wanna try but I do not think you can move them in unity
[22:42] <joossee> Gorroth, ^^
[22:42] <Gorroth> hmm, dconf-editor is just a graphical gsettings :-D
[22:42] <Gorroth> joossee: okay, i'll check it out
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> dconf-editor is gconfs unwed baby
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> that's a joke
[22:44] <ubuntu__> hello?
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> Guest84313, Hi, what's up?
[22:46] <cvtsx> herro
[22:47] <Leopsx> oi
[22:48] <joossee> guys, where does virt keep its logs?
[22:49] <cvtsx> in its folder
[22:49] <joossee> thats helpful
[22:49] <cvtsx> your welcome
[22:49] <cvtsx> lol but idk
[22:49] <cvtsx> sorry ;P
[22:50]  * joossee bashes cvtsx over the head with soggy meatloaf.
[22:50] <shiznix> hi, anyone notice that QT apps. never show up in the dash for 'Recently used' ?
[22:50] <cvtsx> i like meatloaf
[22:50] <cvtsx> but only if there is mashed potatoes
[22:50] <kostkon> shiznix, no
[22:51] <shiznix> this is using Saucy btw
[22:51] <everald> hi. Is there a package that would clean out all temporary/unneeded stuff automatically?
[22:51] <everald> Like doing apt-get autoclean, etc.
[22:51] <Guest90563> hi people, I have serious problem with not being able to login in my ubuntu session
[22:51] <Guest90563> anybody can help me solve this?
[22:51] <everald> My buddy doesn't know all these details, so I need a program that does this automatically.
[22:52] <Guest90563> I can't start my orginal session in graphics mode
[22:52] <Guest90563> why?
[22:52] <joossee> Guest90563, pick a nickname and ill help you
[22:52] <Guest90563> also my nick name is ss_haze
[22:52] <joossee> "/nick joeblow"
[22:53] <Guest90563> I guess quassel doesn't works
[22:53] <joossee> "/nick ss_haze"
[22:53] <joossee> ss_haze, ok more details.. describe whats happeneing from post screen on
[22:53] <ss_haze> ls
[22:53] <ss_haze> what?
[22:53] <anshudhar> hi
[22:54] <ss_haze> it's too fast
[22:54] <anshudhar> adsaf
[22:54] <ss_haze> I just can't login into graphics mode
[22:54] <shiznix> kostkon: i know it used to work, but broke after a Saucy update :(
[22:54] <anshudhar> hey............
[22:54] <jhutchins_wk> xauth corrupted.
[22:54] <joossee> ss_haze, which version are you running?
[22:54] <anshudhar> dggd
[22:54] <ss_haze> I use crtl-alt-f1 and I can login with same password
[22:54] <ciccio> ciao
[22:54] <anshudhar> lol
[22:54] <ciccio> !list
[22:54] <kostkon> shiznix, oh ok
[22:54] <ss_haze> 12.04
[22:54] <anshudhar> rwv
[22:54] <anshudhar> nghjt
[22:54] <anshudhar> vddeb
[22:54] <jhutchins_wk> anshudhar: If you have an ubuntu support question please ask, otherwise please take it elsewhere.
[22:54] <joossee> ss_haze, ok so you get the grub selection screen yes?
[22:55] <anshudhar> sdnc
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> !ops anshudhar
[22:55] <ss_haze> grub selection screen
[22:55] <ss_haze> what?
[22:55] <ikonia> jhutchins_wk: ?
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> ikonia: spam.
[22:55] <Corey> anshudhar: That's about enough nonsense, please. :-)
[22:55] <joossee> ss_haze, the one hat asks what OS you want to load? traditonally a black and white screen with about 5 options...?
[22:55] <anshudhar> what
[22:55] <ikonia> jhutchins_wk: sorry missed it
[22:55] <ss_haze> oh
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> NO.
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> Er, np.
[22:55] <ss_haze> you want me to check
[22:55] <ss_haze> safe mode
[22:55] <anshudhar> fuck
[22:56] <k1l> anshudhar: please keep this channel clear for support. if you got a support issue just ask
[22:56] <ss_haze> or how it's called
[22:56] <joossee> ss_haze, no i just want to know if it comes up or not
[22:56] <Corey> Let us be civil. :-)
[22:56] <joossee> but yeah recovery or safe mode would be an option, with the default being first on the list?
[22:56] <ss_haze> man, I been removing /tmp/X-0.lock without getting anything
[22:57] <ss_haze> I tried htop for killing graphics server
[22:57] <cvtsx> I just want to make sure, a executable wont execute unless if i give it permission to right?
[22:57] <ss_haze> this will take some time
[22:57] <jhutchins_wk> ss_haze: try /etc/init.d/gdm stop instead.
[22:57] <joossee> ss_haze, ya.. i cant help you if youve already started deleting parts of xorg or whatever.
[22:57] <reisio> cvtsx: for the most part
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> cvtsx: If you call it with the interpreter it will.
[22:58] <ss_haze> bash: /etc/init.d/gdm: No such file or directory
[22:58] <ss_haze> you must be kidding me
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> cvtsx: ie bash scriptfile will run scriptfile.
[22:58] <ss_haze> zurb foundation
[22:58] <ss_haze> kill me
[22:58] <cvtsx> ok thx
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> ss_haze: Sorry, I'm on the wrong version, don't have access to a current one.
[22:59] <ss_haze> we are in 2013, why on earth graphics server still causes problems
[22:59] <berga> is it supposed to take hours to install ubuntu in a vm?
[22:59] <ss_haze> or is it just my account
[22:59] <berga> still stuck on ~80%
[22:59] <reisio> berga: stuck is stuck
[22:59] <berga> yeah I guess I'll start over
[22:59] <berga> thanks
[22:59] <jhutchins_wk> ss_haze: It could be the xauthorization system, which can become corrupt if you run GUI programs as root.
[23:00] <joossee> jhutchins_wk, i might suggest he try a simple nomodeset and see what he gets with the vesa driver?
[23:01] <cynicist> ss_haze, that doesn't work anymore, you need to use sudo service gdm stop
[23:02] <cynicist> ss_haze what graphical issues are you having?
[23:03] <unbuntu20093994> kers
[23:03] <unbuntu20093994> hello?
[23:03] <reisio> kers
[23:05] <cynicist> ss_haze oh haha wow, I meant lightdm not gdm
[23:06] <Safety_Dance> s
[23:08] <salah> Hey, I added a PCI wifi card, and it works great. The problem is that I can't use the sound because of constant beep. Any ideas?
[23:09] <ss_haze> still me
[23:09] <ss_haze> can't login
[23:09] <ss_haze> I can't even read 0.5 second long black screen with letters to see what error there is
[23:09] <johnflux_> Hi all.
[23:09] <ss_haze> cause there isn't
[23:09] <jmgk> hey johnflux_
[23:10] <johnflux_> I found a work around for a specific piece of scanner hardware
[23:10] <johnflux_> Is there a suitable place to write this?
[23:10] <ss_haze> help me with graphical environment stuck for one account
[23:10] <johnflux_> do you have some hardware compatibility website or something
[23:10] <cynicist> ss_haze: what happens when you try to boot?
[23:10] <ss_haze> please
[23:10] <ss_haze> cynist what?
[23:10] <LordDeath> what is the easiest way to unsubscribe from all lists? https://lists.ubuntu.com/
[23:10] <ss_haze> nothing
[23:10] <joossee> ss_haze, what kind of card is it and has it ever worked for you?
[23:10] <ss_haze> I get trown out of session
[23:11] <ss_haze> joosee wtf
[23:11] <cynicist> ss_haze: so you boot fine but when you try to login you can't get to a graphical environment?
[23:11] <ss_haze> I see everything right now from f//*** graphical environment, but can't login in session
[23:11] <ss_haze> so please
[23:12] <ss_haze> help me
[23:12] <ss_haze> I can't really understand why
[23:12] <ss_haze> I tried to photo that screen, but it's 0,5 seconds long
[23:12] <ikonia> ss_haze: calm down, tone down the lanauge please, you've used this channel enough to know the rules and know how to get help - be clam, and work with the people trying to help you clearly
[23:12] <ss_haze> IT'S 1 A CLOCK
[23:12] <johnflux_> My scanner works if I plug it into the usb2 port, but not if I plug it into a usb3 port.  Does this make any sense to anyone?
[23:13] <ss_haze> HOW DO I would start quassel which is kde application at first
[23:13] <ss_haze> trought xserver
[23:13] <ss_haze> tty?
[23:14] <ss_haze> I can't get what is wrong
[23:14] <ss_haze> I have free space
[23:14] <ss_haze> 4,5 GB last time checked
[23:14] <johnflux_> ss_haze: your english is impossible to read
[23:15] <ss_haze> maybe cause you can't read
[23:15] <johnflux_> ss_haze: probably, sorry
[23:15] <cynicist> ss_haze: I'm still not sure what issue you are having, you say you are seeing things from a graphical environment but you can't log into a session
[23:15] <berga> I can't read it either
[23:15] <ss_haze> OK, so what's the answer
[23:15] <ikonia> ss_haze: again stop it, your English is not great, it is hard for people to read, which is why I asked you to clam down, please don't try to be rude to people
[23:15] <cynicist> ss_haze: and now you are asking about how to launch quassel from a terminal...
[23:15] <berga> but I'm swedish so that's my excuse
[23:16] <ss_haze> RM /TMP/X-0.lock
[23:16] <ss_haze> NO
[23:16] <ikonia> ss_haze: final request - calm down, just be clear and work with people
[23:16] <ss_haze> I startx from TTY
[23:16] <ss_haze> 1
[23:16] <berga> perhaps if you write a question...
[23:16] <ss_haze> and it doesn't starts graphical environment FROM TTY
[23:16] <ss_haze> ALT-CRTL-F1
[23:17] <berga> maybe you didn't install xorg?
[23:17] <ss_haze> ALSO
[23:17] <kamuela> Well, I'm just reinstall Xubuntu and installing grub to the main disk. wutevz
[23:17] <ss_haze> HOW DO I CAN USE THIS ACCOUNT FROM UNITY
[23:17] <ikonia> ss_haze: start at the beginging - what version of ubuntu have you installed ?
[23:21] <rmah> hello, I just upgraded a server to 13.10 saucy and now my dropbox doesn't work.  I have version 2.4.7 of dropbox (or at least that's what the VERSION file says)
[23:21] <salah> Hi again, I just found out that the constant sound beeps are also higher when I mouse the mouse. And at the same time the CPU jumps to over 40 % usage! This is a i7-3770K with Corsair AX 1200W power supply!
[23:21] <rmah> and there's no http://linux.dropbox.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy distro
[23:21] <rmah> anyone know what's up?
[23:24] <ikonia> rmah: you'd have to ask dropbox - it's their repo
[23:25] <rampageRipper> the Atril thumbnailer heavily burdens the cpu.what can b done?
[23:27] <edoceo> I'm on 10.04 and just did an update, then update-initramfs runs but I get Permission Denied errors on /tmp/mkinitramfs_aRlU7k/ files
[23:28] <edoceo> Does that mean it failed to make a good initramfs?  and I'll fail if I try to reboot?
[23:28] <edoceo> How do I get the upgrade to try this process again?
[23:29] <whoever> edoceo: yes
[23:29] <edoceo> whoever: is that because my /tmp is set noexec,nodev and such?
[23:35] <rampageRipper> what's wrong?
[23:36] <cubahero> anyone know what local firewalls AWS has enabled for ubuntu precise instances? I added security groups to my instance for port 8080 and I can see requests are making it the machine (via tcpdump)
[23:36] <cubahero> i also disabled iptables and ufw....
[23:38] <daftykins> cubahero: disabled how?
[23:38] <cubahero> ufw disable
[23:38] <cubahero> status shows inactive
[23:38] <daftykins> do an "iptables -F" and "iptables -X" anyway
[23:38] <cubahero> yep
[23:39] <whoever> edoceo: i did 't see that you said that but just the word faile in building an image usually will mean you will have a problem booting
[23:39] <cubahero> did that too
[23:39] <daftykins> then iptables -L should be blank
[23:39] <daftykins> past that, check any IPs for typos
[23:39] <edoceo> whoever: it's odd that as root I cannot run this
[23:39] <cubahero> I'm hitting the server
[23:39] <cubahero> but requests aren't being connected to the applicatoin listening on 8080
[23:39] <edoceo> When I try update-initramfs again it still gives that error
[23:40] <whoever> edoceo: intramfs is used in the booting process, you will need to correct the permissions and re build it
[23:40] <edoceo> The directory it makes has nice permissions:  drwxr-xr-x  8 root root 4.0K 2013-11-14 18:38 mkinitramfs_pr4FDX
[23:40] <whoever> edoceo: yes it is
[23:40] <cdsa21> hi
[23:40] <daftykins> cubahero: "netstat -tuln" confirms it definitely is on 8080?
[23:40] <apofis> hi
[23:40] <edoceo> Same perms on the scripts/ directory in there, but none of the files in scripts/ get created :(
[23:40] <whoever> edoceo: don't know why you are rolling your own kernel on ubuntu, that is ususally done on arch or gentoo
[23:41] <cubahero> daftykins: https://gist.github.com/dkullmann/2b1d0c94c662e17a4137
[23:41] <edoceo> I'm not rolling my own, this failure happend after a simple apt-get upgrade
[23:41] <cubahero> daftykins: yep - local telnet works and checked with lsof -i :8080 (similar to netstat)
[23:41] <whoever> edoceo: well most people don't attempt it on ubuntu is a better way to word t
[23:41] <whoever> *it
[23:41] <cubahero> daftykins: (netstat confirmed as well)
[23:41] <daftykins> cubahero: that is very odd - what's the service?
[23:42] <cubahero> daftykins: rethinkdb
[23:42] <whoever> edoceo: anyway if you still need my help, ill be back in a few hours
[23:42] <edoceo> whoever: this isn't a roll-your-own situation, this thing is all stock, the failures happend from apt-get upgrade
[23:42] <daftykins> cubahero: is it bound to the correct interface(s) ?
[23:42] <edoceo> I don't, thanks anyway
[23:42] <cubahero> ubuntu precise machine
[23:42] <cubahero> daftykins: good question
[23:42] <daftykins> to the configurator! :)
[23:42] <cubahero> un momento por favor
[23:43] <whoever> edoceo: that is odd, do you have an image that you can go back to and try to update again or just re run the update
[23:43] <edoceo> update-initramfs script fails, because it cannot write to the tmp directories it creates
[23:43] <cubahero> daftykins: +1 fixed gracias
[23:43] <edoceo> with or without apt-get invoking it
[23:45] <edoceo> If I remount /tmp and disable the noexec,nosuid,nodev options the update-initramfs works.
[23:46] <kiwi_> hi... i'm just installing ubuntu on my new laptop. i used to make seperate partitions for /boot, /home and / .... besides i used to have a swap partition. however, nowadays i think thats not necessary anymore ...  no swap and no seperate /boot partition  ... just / and /home is fine  .... what do you think?
[23:51] <Danato> can anybody answer kiwi_'s question? Im also interested :)
[23:52] <nd456> channel
[23:52] <Danato> nd456, tv
[23:53] <nd456> Can anyone help me getting my wireless card working?
[23:53] <pero> Danato, kiwi_: personally i do partitions for / /boot /home and swap
[23:54] <pero> i like to keep /boot separate just to further compartmentalize it from any fuckups i may do, and keep my machine bootable
[23:54] <berga> still on my ubuntu virtualbox problem... vbox itself recommended at least 8gb vhd but I increased to 32GB so that can't be the problem, right? I also disabled networking before starting the vm (since it's supposed to simulate an offline laptop) but the Copying files process is still taking quite a while to complete. Figured it would be a bit quicker for some reason. Am I just being impatient,
[23:54] <berga> or have I done something wrong? Anyone with experience have any idea? My host OS is windows 7 64bit (the vm is 32bt tho)
[23:54] <edoceo> kiwi_: I still make partitions for /boot, swap, /home / and sometimes /var
[23:54] <kiwi_> pero, the seperate /boot was necessary in the old days because of 1024 cylinder restriction
[23:55] <kiwi_> besides i never experienced any practical advantage
[23:55] <pero> i don't do it because it's necessary, i do it because i feel it prudent to keep my bootloader on a separate parittion
[23:55] <kiwi_> yes
[23:55] <OrIWillChecklogs> In Ubuntu 13.10-Saucy I find that I am using "Gnome Flashback" Desktop Environment .. Where is this package in Launchpad ?? & is it developed apon of late ?
[23:56] <nd456> Can anyone help me getting my wireless card working?
[23:56] <k1l> actually for some encryption setups you need a extra /boot partition
[23:56] <pero> to me, it's a logical distinction/separation of duties and partitions
[23:56] <pero> if boot is separate from the rest of the system, why would i keep it on the same partition
[23:57] <berga> I guess I'll just leave it over night and see what happens
[23:57] <kiwi_> edoceo, thats what i did, except for /var
[23:57] <kiwi_> ok, everybody still uses swap
[23:57] <edoceo> I usually only do /var on servers, so if logs or /var/tmp get full other things will still be OK
[23:58] <k1l> OrIWillChecklogs: yes, gnome continous the old-gnome-look desktop. the name is gnome-panel
[23:58] <edoceo> kiwi_: special case, on my desktop 16G ram I don't to swap - I just let programs crash
[23:58] <kiwi_> then ... i might also stay with my old partition scheme
[23:58] <OrIWillChecklogs> thanx .
[23:58] <Corvaxia> I have a silly question. Since both PS4 and XBox One are now X86 based with processors manufactured by AMD what is the likelihood of an Ubunutu or SteamOS install being developed for the consoles?
[23:59] <Corvaxia> heheh Ubunutu. Ubuntu*
[23:59] <k1l> Corvaxia: those boxed dont allow other linuxes to be installed. so that is not on the ubuntu side to be decided
[23:59] <ikonia> Corvaxia: zero


[08:35] <darkxst> Noskcaj, I copied tracker, but grilo-plugins may need a rebuild against new libmediaart, can you check that
[19:46] <Noskcaj> darkxst, I'm not really sure, but i'll sync grilo and grilo-plugins to PPA since we should probably have them anyway


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[10:35] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
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[11:11] <acheronuk> Plasma 5.14.0 is now kopying to ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing for Cosmic. Please test.
[11:11] <acheronuk> ^^^^ mamarley @DarinMiller mparillo_ mparillo[m] ngraham nggraham tsimonq2 valorie @MichaelTunnell @ahoneybun @Santa
 Kool.
[11:19] <acheronuk> published :)
[11:21] <mamarley> acheronuk: I have already been testing when it was in -ninjas and everything has been fine. :)
[11:21] <acheronuk> mamarley: had a feeling you might. thank you :)
[11:22] <mamarley> No problem :)
[11:22] <acheronuk> we should have 5.14.1 by cosmic release day
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[15:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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 Will test it out shortly
 5.14 updated without issue.  Workng great for last hour.
[19:39] <valorie> acheronuk: does that mean *in* cosmic, or in backports for cosmic?
 backport-landing plasma 5.14 is for cosmic
[19:48] <valorie> was there something wrong with using https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/trojita/ ?
[19:49] <valorie> @darinmiller yes, however my question was about it landing in cosmic release vs backports
[19:50] <valorie> it's all the same to me, but it would be cool to have all cosmic users have it day 1
 Main repo cannot be updated to plasma 5.14 becuase of feature freeze restriction, I think Rik intends to have std. backports ready with 5.14 on release day.  He just wanted a few testers to verify.
 Apologies if I am explaining the obvious...
[19:54] <valorie> got it
[19:55] <valorie> thanks, @darinmiller
[22:49] <mparillo_> From a command line: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing Then sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y and re-booted. I got the new wall paper. krunner launches kinfocenter which reports Plasma 5.14. The kicker launches discover, system settings, konsole, kate and they pass the 10 second test.
[23:03] <valorie> I'm about to do that with my travel lappy
[23:03] <valorie> for realz
[23:08] <mparillo_> I forgot to check, but if Falkon spell checking does not work, do you know who packages it?
[23:09] <wxl> falkon has spell checking?
[23:09] <wxl> is falkon going to be the default browser for kubuntu?
[23:18] <valorie> oh I hope so
[23:19] <valorie> dunno if acheronuk made it so
[23:19] <valorie> spell checking for a browser?
[23:20] <wxl> lubuntu decided last minute to back out on it
[23:20] <wxl> i probably would have fought for falkon but some folks were having issues with it..... and there's the cnocern i always have about offering a browser that's not one of the usual bunch
[23:20] <wxl> inevitably someone complains because it can't do this thing or that thing
[23:21] <wxl> it's really hard to keep up with the pace of the web
[23:22] <valorie> hmmm, I've had no problems and it's done everything I want to do
[23:24] <mparillo_> https://userbase.kde.org/Falkon#Spell_Check
[23:24] <mparillo_> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/qupzilla-spell-check-lost-after-upgrade-solution-also-works-for-falkon/6586
[23:43] <valorie> I know that tsimonq2 was trying to get in the new qtwebengine
[23:43] <valorie> if that's what is needed
[23:43] <valorie> tsimonq2: did it get in?
[23:44] <wxl> question is does it support flash XD
[23:48] <valorie> rebooting
[23:50] <valorie> oh, that's pretty!
[23:51] <valorie> that will be my wallpaper at the G mentor summit this weekend
[23:51] <valorie> :-)