[17:58] <alp> pepee, which packages to reconfigure?
[17:59] <rebe> is there moonlight plugin for chrome ?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Anon7: may help with the newer version
[17:59] <pepee> alp, unity? not sure what package it is
[17:59] <alp> i did unity
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> alp: just backup what you need to usb / network share, delete the hidden fodlers in root recovery console then reboot, you will get a vanilla settings
[18:00] <pepee> alp, that, or purge and reinstall
[18:01] <alp> ok *insert "I have no idea what I am doing" meme here*
[18:01] <luist_> is there something that i can use as notify-send but i need a custom buttom to confirm and a cancel one… being able to get the result?
[18:02] <pepee> alp, you are reconfiguring the package :P
[18:02] <ikonia> alp: re-install and be more careful next time
[18:02] <alp> ikonia: complete OS reinstall?
[18:02] <ikonia> alp: yes
[18:03] <ikonia> alp: and if the problem is you messign it up - stop messing with it and use it
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> alp: backup what you need using the other user, hold shift at boot and select recovery mode, then select roo, then run:  rm -r ~/.*     Obviously emails and so forth will go so back those up and such as well as browser and app settings, so back them up. Then run:  reboot   and when you log in you will get vanilla settings
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: +1
[18:05] <alp> okay, doing it right now, thank you. bye
[18:06] <comunistu> ce mai e nou?
[18:07] <skrag> Question: I have samba shares on a server on my LAN that, when im on the actual server show the correct file ownerships, but when I look at the very same files thru ssh on a diffrent box (my backup box), it shows the wrong owners for the files... any guess as how to make the file ownerships show up correctly on the backup box?
[18:07] <ikonia> skrag: does it show numbers as the owners/groups ?
[18:08] <skrag> yea "1002" is the wrong owner on the backup box
[18:08] <qwerty> hi there
[18:08] <ikonia> skrag: your users/groups uid/gid's are different between the two machines
[18:09] <skrag> so i should change the UID's on the backup box to match the server?
[18:09] <Jon--> When I try and set up multiple monitors with fglrx, I get messages like "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(2646, 1024), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1440, 1440)". It seems that my width x height is bound to some maximum value. Can this value be adjusted in the xorg.conf? Can someone help me with this please?
[18:09] <Anon7> ActionParsnip, still doesn't work
[18:10] <ikonia> skrag: prettty much yes
[18:10] <Anon7> it says it printed and everything
[18:10] <lesshaste> is uvccapture the only/right way get to get images from a logitech webcam?
[18:10] <Anon7> but it didnt
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Anon7: delete the printer you added and then reboot :)
[18:10] <lesshaste> it seems very buggy
[18:10] <skrag> ikonia: thanks ill try that
[18:10] <Anon7> delete it? why?
[18:10] <Jon--> lspci reports 'VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]
[18:10] <Jon--> '
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Anon7: so that it gets re-added under the new driver
[18:12] <craigbass1976> Ok, so I've installed java 1.7 in Lucid, according to alink someone posted earlier for me.  I need pdftk back on this rig, which was taken off when I removed (with apt-get) the older version of java.  apt-get install pdftk looks like it's going to be throwing a bunch of older java, including openjdk (which for some reason prevents my ERP from printing)
[18:13] <alp> Haha, I just deleted all my files.
[18:13] <alp> *facepalm*
[18:13] <Jon--> alp, Good job.
[18:13] <alp> Somebody should prevent me from using a computer
[18:13] <Jon--> When I try and set up multiple monitors with fglrx, I get messages like "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(2646, 1024), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1440, 1440)". It seems that my width x height is bound to some maximum value. Can this value be adjusted in the xorg.conf? Can someone help me with this please? lspci -nn gives "01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 32
[18:13] <Jon--> 00 Graphics] [1002:9612]" OS is Ubuntu 11.10, gnome-classic DE
[18:14] <centHOGG> alp: heaven & earth shall pass away
[18:14]  * pehden is back (gone 00:34:57)
[18:15] <craigbass1976> And does anyone know where I'd find the command history that might exist if I type sudo -i ?  I don't dare close that terminal until I know I can lay my eyeballs on the commands I just ran again
[18:15] <Anon7> ActionParsnip, nope
[18:15] <alp> Am I the only one? Anybody accidentally wiped out his/her harddisk before?
[18:15] <FrozenMind> craigbass1976: press up on the arrow keys
[18:16] <Pumpkin-> craigbass1976: try just "history"
[18:16] <craigbass1976> FrozenMind, that's while I'm IN the terminal.  What about after?  Are they going to be in ~/.bash_history or somewhere else?
[18:16] <jrib> craigbass1976: /root/.bash_history ...
[18:16] <hypn0> alp, i doubt if its wiped, have you tried using testdisk
[18:16] <centHOGG> y
[18:17] <lesshaste> what is a command line tool for capturing images from a webcam?
[18:17] <alp> hypno0: yes, i tried testdisk. no luck.
[18:17] <Galahad> alp nope your not the only one, best advice is always back up stuff you can't live without before doing anything with your OS, hindsight is 20:20, sorry for your loss :(
[18:18] <FrozenMind> craigbass1976 -- run "history" like Pumpkin- said, works well on my distro :)
[18:19] <alp> Galahad, the ones I can't live without was backed up, I am kinda lucky, eh? my python scripts are gone tho.
[18:20] <FrozenMind> alp -- FTK Imager
[18:20] <Jon--> When I try and set up multiple monitors with fglrx, I get messages like "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(2646, 1024), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1440, 1440)". It seems that my width x height is bound to some maximum value. Can this value be adjusted in the xorg.conf? Can someone help me with this please? lspci -nn gives "01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 32
[18:20] <Jon--> 00 Graphics] [1002:9612]" OS is Ubuntu 11.10, gnome-classic DE
[18:20] <Galahad> alp there is a chance you could recover some of your lost files: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery I have used these methods for some of my clients before, it's tedious, but effective, hopefully you have not utilized the HDD that you wiped out, or not used it much.
[18:20] <centHOGG> hmmm
[18:21] <alp> I formatted it two times and installed OS over them.
[18:21] <FrozenMind> alp: FTK Imager and then you will need to look for orphan fiels and you can either carve them out via a hex tool or you can look to see fi the INODES are still intacted
[18:21] <centHOGG> gone
[18:21] <alp> centHOGG right.
[18:21] <go8765> is anyway to clean cache in ubuntu (without swapoff and reboot) ?
[18:21] <arcsky> how do i do so the xorg doesnt start when i reboot?
[18:22] <jrib> arcsky: always or just once?
[18:22] <Galahad> alp good chance most is gone, but some may be recoverable still, depends on what those files are worth to you whether you want to go fishing for them, your situation is pretty severe and would likely have small if any yield
[18:22] <arcsky> jrib: always
[18:22] <jrib> !text | arcsky
[18:22] <alp> Galahad, they don't worth it... :D
[18:22] <Galahad> gotcha
[18:22] <pepee> Jon--, /join #ati
[18:23] <alp> with the time I lost searching for them, i can create better ones
[18:23] <centHOGG> true
[18:23] <arcsky> jrib: ok but if i want it only once?
[18:23] <go8765> htop
[18:23] <hypn0> alp, but will you back them up this time :-/
[18:23] <jrib> arcsky: then you do what the factoid says and don't edit your grub configuration
[18:23] <dalton2345> alp the good thing about it, you wont do it twice lol
[18:24] <Galahad> alp i did a recovery one time and the client was upset that the file names were gone, not happy that they were recovered lol.
[18:24] <pepee> go8765, cache? as in /tmp/ ?
[18:24] <jeagle> Bash question... I want to itterate through several folders within a folder... i.e., Home folder and within Home folder I have 30 folders, and within each of those 30 folders, I could have many folders, I want to move everything within those folders up one level, so the are still within the 30 folders. just removing the contents of those sub folders. :)
[18:25] <alp> And I also prevent myself from using "cut" or mv. They are not for me.
[18:25] <alp> will also*
[18:25] <jrib> jeagle: your question seems somewhat vague but #bash is more appropriate anyway
[18:25] <pepee> go8765, what's the cache?
[18:26] <alp> Best is to use a seperate home partition?
[18:26] <go8765> sorry. i mean swap
[18:26] <pepee> jeagle, /join #bash ?
[18:26] <jeagle> oh, ok, didn't know there was a bash one. :D
[18:26] <Anon7> I wish I could get this printer to wokr
[18:26] <Anon7> I have no idea why
[18:26] <jeagle> thanks. :P
[18:27] <Anon7> I installed the new hplip
[18:27] <Galahad> jeagle "info cpio" I think that will do what your wanting
[18:27] <alp> hypn0: They are gone now too, next time :)
[18:27] <amarcolino> I have added my user to www:data and made /www writable to users within that group, however, I would like to know how I can make it that when I create file and folders the owner and group should be www:data instead of my user?
[18:28] <alp> dalton, it's the third time i did it.
[18:28] <craigbass1976> jeagle, careful.  I don't know as they're quite so forgiving as in here...
[18:28] <pepee> Anon7, http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_1000.html
[18:29] <mcb_> amarcolino:  You will have to use umask
[18:29] <alp> Burning a fresh 11.10...
[18:29] <Anon7> pepee, I got it to work :D
[18:29] <pepee> Anon7, good :)
[18:29] <Anon7> yeah
[18:29] <Anon7> I re-ran the setup
[18:30] <root__> oi
[18:30] <go8765> so is anyway to clean swap without swapoff or reboot?
[18:30] <Anon7> >2012
[18:31] <Anon7> >logging to irc as root
[18:31] <ikonia> go8765: clean swap ?
[18:31] <root__> youtube
[18:31] <go8765> ikonia: yes
[18:31] <root__> erk hacker :D
[18:31] <go8765> what wrong?
[18:31] <ikonia> go8765: what do you mean clean swap ?
[18:31] <Elrafie> friends help each other friends use linixplease vote for me to win
[18:31] <Elrafie> plz like & share
[18:31] <Elrafie> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=202027556578177&set=o.114773511337&type=1&ref=notif&notif_t=photo_comment&theater
[18:31] <FloodBot1> Elrafie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:31] <Anon7> ok brb testing other user
[18:31] <ikonia> go8765: I don't know what you mean "clean swap" - what's hte issue with swap
[18:31] <pepee> !tr
[18:31] <ikonia> Elrafie: please don't spam stuff in here
[18:32] <Elrafie> ok
[18:32] <Elrafie> but i need likes
[18:32] <pepee> !tr | alp
[18:32] <ikonia> Elrafie: infact please dont' spam on freenode
[18:32] <Elrafie> i want to save our trees
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> Elrafie  wrong channel
[18:32] <Elrafie> they will pay for me if i got many likes
[18:32] <cracker> hi
[18:32] <Elrafie> help me friends
[18:32] <ikonia> Elrafie: stop - now, no more discussion
[18:32] <andrewaclt> How do you check the particular version of a package you have installed?
[18:32] <Elrafie> friends help each other friends use linixplease vote for me to win
[18:32] <Elrafie> plz like & share
[18:32] <Elrafie> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=202027556578177&set=o.114773511337&type=1&ref=notif&notif_t=photo_comment&theater
[18:32] <Elrafie> bye
[18:32] <FloodBot1> Elrafie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <h4ckid> ola
[18:33] <go8765> ikonia:  i have 1.5 gb swap used, but i dont have any programm that can do it now, so i think that this is some old swap files. so is anyway to clean swap such this do swapoff command?
[18:33] <h4ckid> alguem do brasil ?
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> !br
[18:33] <h4ckid> !br
[18:33] <zlude> h4ckid, eu!
[18:33] <ikonia> go8765: don't worry about it, it flushes it as you need it
[18:33] <pepee> also, hacker loggin as root
[18:33] <pepee> haha
[18:33] <h4ckid> zlude, blz
[18:34] <h4ckid> acabei de instalar o xchat no meu linux
[18:34] <h4ckid> kkkkkkk
[18:34] <go8765>  ikonia waht you mean - flushed?
[18:34] <zlude> h4ckid, hehehe
[18:34] <pepee> h4ckid, estas corriendo ubuntu como root
[18:35] <Dr_willis> go8765,  linux handles swap and ram very well. You shouldent have to worry about it.
[18:35] <alp> Burned successfully, proceed to a fresh install. Bye people.
[18:35] <erk_hacker> pepee, no
[18:35] <erk_hacker> pepee, my s.o. is backtrack 5 linux revolution
[18:36] <amarcolino> mcb_, just did a quick search on umask and unless I read it wrong it doesn't seem to do what I want, which is to belong to the www:data group but be able to create file and folders assigned to that group instead of myself
[18:36] <pepee> erk_hacker, /join #backtrack
[18:37] <erk_hacker> GNOME Version: 2.30.2 Ubuntu Build Date: 06/25/2010
[18:37] <go8765> ok. thanks for answers. hope you right)
[18:37] <mcb_> amarcolino: Sorry, but i thought that was what you wanted....
[18:37] <erk_hacker> no no
[18:37] <erk_hacker> kkkkkk
[18:38] <amarcolino> mcb_, no worries by searching I learned something new, thanks :)
[18:38] <pepee> amarcolino, no idea. you can just run chown -R www-data:www-data
[18:40] <[erk]hacker> kkkkkkkkk o ubuntu no brasil é o linux mais usado por lammers
[18:40] <[erk]hacker> né verdade
[18:40] <[erk]hacker> o ubuntu puro ja vi
[18:40] <[erk]hacker> kkkkkkkk
[18:40] <Pici> [erk]hacker: You've already been told where to go: #ubuntu-br
[18:40] <_Marcus> !br
[18:40] <amarcolino> pepee, that's what I am doing now but it gets tedious after a while specially when doing testing, creating folder etc, hopefully someone knows a way to do this
[18:41] <pepee> amarcolino, you can ask in #linux too
[18:42] <amarcolino> pepee, thanks will try that
[18:42] <jhattara> on an ubuntu server i'd need to redirect all network traffic going out to A.A.A.A redirected to B.B.B.B, i guess iptables is the program to use, but i have no idea of the options i'd need to use, any help ?
[18:42] <[erk]hacker> ual 1691 users :D
[18:42] <ikonia> jhattara: look at the postrouting option
[18:42] <pepee> [erk]hacker, lamer sos vos que usas backtrack como root jaja
[18:43] <[erk]hacker> pepee, fy
[18:43] <[erk]hacker> kkkkkkk
[18:43] <Pici> pepee: Please stop encouraging him, #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support only and he has been told where to go.  this is also an English-only channel.
[18:43] <[erk]hacker> :D
[18:43] <pepee> Pici, he's not searching for help anyway
[18:44] <pepee> you should ban him
[18:44] <Pici> pepee: Perhaps you should stop playing along with him as well then.
[18:44] <pepee> and btw he's using backtrack, not ubuntu
[18:44] <pepee> jhattara, http://www.simplehelp.net/2009/04/15/how-to-redirect-traffic-to-another-machine-in-linux/
[18:45] <Pici> jhattara: You might want to try asking in #netfilter as well, which is the support channel for iptables
[18:45] <_zoom_> hi, how to crreate virutal interface using network-manager
[18:45] <_zoom_> ?
[18:45] <jhattara> Pici: cheers, i'll try there
[18:48] <heater89> what does this command do "rm *~" ?
[18:48] <heater89> i know what rm does and what * does but "*~"?
[18:48] <ikonia> heater89: do you have a file called [something]~
[18:49] <heater89> ikonia: not at the moment it is in the "clean" portion of a makefile
[18:49] <_Marcus> heater89: * is a wildcard. It counts as anything. So "rm *~" would delete anything that ends with "~" in your current directory
[18:49] <ikonia> heater89: shouldn't do anything of concern then
[18:49] <aslan> Hi I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 and I'm using 2 virtual OS( windows,Backtrack ) in Virutalbox. I just want to know the network structure of my virtual OS. I referring that is my virtual OS gets IP from the primary OS(LAN) or it will get a separate IP address..
[18:50] <ikonia> aslan: depends how you configure them
[18:50] <zykotick9> ikonia: heater89 i seem to recall vi creating backups named filename~ (but don't recall seeing it in a while)
[18:50] <heater89> ikonia: _Marcus : alright, i felt like it was ok but made me nervous with the "~" as i know that is home
[18:50] <ikonia> zykotick9: correct
[18:50] <wylde> heater then it removes any backup files created by your editing program when editing.
[18:50] <hypn0> heater89, arent *~ files backups?
[18:50] <_Marcus> heater89: Since it's in the makefile, they probally use filenames that end with ~, so they make it easier to delete them by having the rm command delete everything that ends with ~
[18:50] <heater89> zykotick9: alright thanks
[18:50] <aslan> ikonia, could you explain me please.
[18:51] <heater89> _Marcus: yea, just wanted to make very sure so i didn't recursively delete my home directory ;)
[18:51] <ikonia> aslan: you configure your guest OS's to get IP's from where you want
[18:51] <onorevole> .xchat2/budus.so
[18:51] <heater89> thanks for the help guys, much appreciated :)
[18:51] <wylde> heater89: you need the * on the other side of the ~ for that ;)
[18:51] <aslan> ikonia, How to identify my IP address configuration
[18:52] <ikonia> aslan: you put it on - so you know it
[18:52] <heater89> wylde: right but it is better to be safe and ask then to watch as everything gets deleted :D
[18:52] <kzr22> can anyone help me to get my 2nd monitor to not be a clone in backtrack?
[18:52] <ikonia> heater89: never any harm asking if you are unsure
[18:52] <ikonia> kzr22: join #backtrack-linux and they can help you
[18:52] <lawltoad> hi, you know how when nautilus mounts somthign it creates the directory and then on a umount it autoremoves? how do I mount somthing liek that?
[18:52] <kzr22> thanks
[18:52] <heater89> ikonia: yea haha
[18:52] <aslan> ikonia, It shows that I'm using NAT for both the OS
[18:52] <heater89> thanks again guys
[18:52] <wylde> heater89: very true, but it's also a good idea to keep up-to-date backups :)
[18:53] <ikonia> aslan: ok, so you are natting out onto whatever network you've set it to nat from
[18:53] <kzr22> ikonia : it says im banned...??
[18:53] <heater89> wylde: ideal vs what actually happens lol i have backups, just not a super recent one lol
[18:53] <jrib> lawltoad: udisks (maybe?)
[18:53] <ikonia> kzr22: you're using IRC as root, they don't allow it in that channel
[18:54] <i7c> still looking for a torrent software that supports socks5 proxies and runs as daemon. deluged does not work for me, way too buggy.
[18:54] <kzr22> ikonia: so i need to log in to another account? ok
[18:54] <wylde> heater89: also very true </ot> (before someone throws an ! ot at us)
[18:54] <pepee> i7c, use proxychains ?
[18:54] <aslan> ikonia, NAT in the scene it is a kind of LAN which I' m getting the IP address for the primary OS to the guest OS.
[18:54] <zykotick9> ikonia: isn't root login default for bt?  neat trick, default users can't join support channel ;)
[18:55] <ikonia> zykotick9: it's part of the "are you clever enough to use backtrack" test
[18:55] <i7c> pepee: what is that o.O
[18:55] <pepee> i7c, apt-cache show proxychains
[18:55] <ShermAntics> Hello!
[18:56] <aslan> ikonia, NAT in the scene it is a kind of LAN which I' m getting the IP address for the primary OS to the guest OS.
[18:56] <ikonia> aslan: ok ?
[18:56] <i7c> pepee: ahaaa. thanks for the useful hint :)
[18:56] <pepee> i7c, no problem
[18:56] <aslan> ikonia, Is that correct?
[18:56] <ikonia> aslan: I don't know it's YOUR config
[18:56] <ikonia> aslan: YOU know how YOU set it up
[18:57] <lawltoad> jrib, you sir, are a god! howd you know? Ive been using linux for years and ive never heven heard of it
[18:57] <aslan> ikonia, I just installed it, it didn't ask for network config.
[18:57] <jrib> lawltoad: hanging out here :)
[18:57] <ikonia> aslan: you have to make it
[18:58] <aslan> ikonia, could you help me to make it please.
[18:58] <lawltoad> I guess now I know too... Linux can feel so arcane soemtimes... I guess thats why I dream of switchign to arch
[18:58] <ikonia> lawltoad: arch is linux, so it's arcane too
[19:00] <lawltoad> ikonia, yea, but its mysteries are much more skindeep
[19:00] <ikonia> lawltoad: no, you just make things up because you don't know what you're talking about.
[19:00] <aslan> ikonia, could you help me to make it please.
[19:00] <lawltoad> ikonia, isn't that what makes it a mystery ?
[19:01] <Oer> !ics
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> aslan  bridged instead of NAT creates a 'bridge' to your existing network
[19:03] <luist_> is there something that i can use as notify-send but i need a custom buttom to confirm and a cancel one… being able to get the result?
[19:04] <i7c> pepee: proxychains ruins curses terminal output :-/
[19:05] <mirko1> luist_: maybe zenity?
[19:05] <pepee> i7c, try to make the curses program run on another window?
[19:06] <i7c> pepee: well i tried to use proxychains rtorrent. maybe they don't like each other xD
[19:06] <pepee> i7c, proxychains xterm ?
[19:07] <i7c> pepee: mhm :)
[19:07] <i7c> i guess i don't think far today
[19:09] <i7c> pepee: mmh but i'm not sure if this works. coz i can ping now from the new window with proxy being shut down
[19:09] <pepee> i7c, try using wget
[19:10] <funnyhaha> im trying to download the 64 bit but its olny comes up for amd i have an intel i am confused
[19:10] <pepee> funnyhaha, amd64 is the name of the architecture
[19:10] <pepee> amd64 is for 64 bits
[19:11] <funnyhaha> o so it will work if i have an intel
[19:11] <alp> Hey! I successfully reinstalled.
[19:11] <i7c> pepee: okay, in xterm it's blocked, in lxterminal (lxde) works anyways.
[19:12] <alp> I was using synaptiks to get my mousepad working. Do you have alternatives?
[19:12] <zykotick9> funnyhaha: amd64 is for intel as well ;)
[19:12] <pepee> amd was the first on implement 64 bits in intel x86 arch :)
[19:12] <pepee> I mean, amd extended it
[19:12] <kzr22> help
[19:13] <Zal> kzr22, are you on fire??
[19:13] <i7c> !ask|kzr22
[19:13] <funnyhaha> ok do you think its i good idea to install the 64 i hear alot of bad stuff about it
[19:13] <alp> I was using synaptiks to get my mousepad working. Do you have alternatives?
[19:13] <pepee> i7c, do you get lxpanel crashes in lxde?
[19:13] <zykotick9> funnyhaha: do you have more the 4GB of RAM (probably biggest factor)
[19:14] <pepee> lxpanel always crashes :/ too buggy
[19:14] <kzr22> i7c : meant to get help command
[19:14] <amarcolino> I have added my user to www:data and made /www writable to users within that group, however, I would like to know how I can make it that when I create file and folders the owner and group should be www:data instead of my user?
[19:14] <funnyhaha> i have 4 gb now i can put more in
[19:14] <JULinuxUser> how do you reset/ delete your nautilus config in ubuntu?
[19:14] <JULinuxUser> Mine is all screwed up
[19:14] <i7c> pepee: no, mine never crashed :O
[19:14] <mirko1> funnyhaha: it depends, even if you have more than 4GB you can use a 32bit PAE kernel. 64bit speeds up mainly audio/video stuff but still has some compatibility problems. therefore i still se and advice 32bit.
[19:14] <zykotick9> funnyhaha: 4GB is borderline, but i'd use 64 (32bit can be easier for somethings)
[19:15] <zykotick9> mirko1: PAE is a "hack" that has some overhead involved
[19:15] <pepee> i7c, :(
[19:15] <funnyhaha> ahhh thanks
[19:16] <alp> Anyone using a laptop here?
[19:16] <Zal> amarcolino, chmod g+s should do it.
[19:16] <_zoom_> hollllaaaa, how to add alias to interface using network-manager
[19:16] <funnyhaha> i did the PAE for the 32 i think it screws things up
[19:16] <_zoom_> ?
[19:16] <dalton2345> it never did to me funnyhaha
[19:16] <i7c> pepee: lxde works perfectly fine on my machine. how does yours crash?
[19:17] <Zal> amarcolino, actually, not sure about owner. Don't think you can change that part. Group, yes.
[19:17] <mirko1> zykotick9: not used PAE myself, so I trust you. :-) is the overhead big enough to compensate for the compatibility problem (which still occassionaly arise)?
[19:17] <zykotick9> funnyhaha: it "should" run fine - but pure 64bit is better for future use and more memory for applications
[19:17] <funnyhaha> the update wont work
[19:17] <alp> i7c, pepee, dalton2345, all: My mousepad is not working.
[19:17] <dalton2345> when did you install it
[19:17] <pepee> i7c, it will restart by itself a couple times a day
[19:17] <dalton2345> never had trouble with pae
[19:17] <dalton2345> funnyhaha, you did it cause you add more ram?
[19:18] <alp> Do you have an alternative to "synaptiks"?
[19:18] <pepee> alp, sudo modprobe psmouse
[19:18] <zykotick9> mirko1: the PAE overhead is <10% (so not significant, but it's always there).  and applications are still limited to 32bit constraints...
[19:18] <funnyhaha> and there was a program that needed libbssl but it was allready install and it said it was not
[19:18] <alp> pepee, still not working.
[19:18] <Dilberto> Buenos dias!
[19:18] <Dilberto> Soy un representante de la comunidad linuxiana de Tijuana!
[19:19] <Dilberto> Unanse con nosotros en nuestro canal
[19:19] <Dilberto> #gultij
[19:19] <alp> It was working with a software called synaptiks, do you have another alternatives?
[19:19] <pepee> Dilberto, hola. !es | Dilberto
[19:19] <pepee> !es | Dilberto
[19:19] <zykotick9> !es | Dilberto
[19:19] <mirko1> zykotick9: yeah, i know the 32bit contraint, thanks for the overhead info
[19:19] <Dilberto> Hi!  I am a representative of the Linux community in Tijuana!
[19:19] <i7c> pepee: :-/ maybe reinstall
[19:19] <amarcolino> zal, thnaks but it's not what I am looking for, I need a way to make it that when I create files and folders withing /www the ownership goes to www:data instead of myself
[19:19] <funnyhaha> i think i will try the 64 see how it goes
[19:19] <Dilberto> Join us in our channel
[19:19] <Dilberto> #gultij
[19:19] <pepee> i7c, yeah, I'll try reinstalling
[19:19] <Dilberto> If you are a user of linux in baja california.
[19:19] <Dilberto> #gultij
[19:19] <dalton2345> funnyhaha, you use pae after upgrading ur ram?
[19:19] <alp> join #ubuntu-tr
[19:19] <Zal> amarcolino, not possible. You can only set group ownership to a specific group that you belong to
[19:20] <funnyhaha> i dont understand
[19:20] <Pici> dalton2345: Please don't advertise channels here.
[19:20] <funnyhaha> do you mean putting more in or something else
[19:20] <bekks> Zal: setuid and setgid should be working on folders too.
[19:20] <cgardner> Hey guys, is it possible to use the existing dnsmasq to setup something like http://css.dzone.com/articles/drop-folder-directory-and-have ?
[19:20] <alp> seems nobody is gonna help
[19:20] <dalton2345> pici i didnt advertise anything
[19:21] <Pici> dalton2345: whoops, mistab there.
[19:21] <Pici> Dilberto: Please don't advertise channels here.
[19:21] <funnyhaha> i just installed the PAE
[19:21] <Pici> dalton2345: sorry about that.
[19:21] <funnyhaha> i dont know
[19:21] <dalton2345> pici, no problem :)
[19:22] <dalton2345> funnyhaha, i have pae cause i add more ram
[19:22] <zykotick9> funnyhaha: with 4GB PAE probably makes sense :)
[19:22] <amarcolino> zal, hmmm, there has to be a way otherwise I would have to keep doing chown foobar:foobar, which gets really tiring and annoying
[19:22] <dalton2345> without pae...my 4th gb wasn't recognised...with pae it is
[19:23] <funnyhaha> yeah im just going to the 64 and hope it works
[19:23] <alp> Are you just ignoring me?
[19:23] <Zal> bekks, as far as I know, setuid on a directory will not cause files created to belong to another user.
[19:23] <dalton2345> you dont have to funnyhaha
[19:23] <dalton2345> pae will recognise your ram
[19:23] <funnyhaha> i am also using the 11.10 this time i have 10.04 now
[19:23] <dalton2345> check it out
[19:24] <MangledBody> Hi Guys! Can anybody help me with Tibia client? The native one is lagging, horribly lagging, but the Windows one through Wine runs good, can anyone help me?
[19:24] <Zal> amarcolino, think about what a serious security problem it would be if users could create files that belong to other users.
[19:24] <Zal> amarcolino, there is no way to do that, as far as I know, but you can do it with group ownership, as I've noted.
[19:24] <funnyhaha> i know i dont have to but i had alot of problems after i installed the PAE
[19:24] <alp> hello
[19:24] <dalton2345> another cool feature from linux...with windows you need to pay for the 64bit version, with linux just install pae
[19:25] <funnyhaha> windows sucks
[19:25] <dalton2345> and its free...i was so upset when i find out windows didnt recognise it
[19:25] <dalton2345> i couldnt believe it!!
[19:25] <Zal> amarcolino, perhaps what you need is a different architecture to solve whatever your original problem is.
[19:25] <mirko1> amarcolino: maybe you just want to run chgrp -R ... after creating a bunch of files?
[19:26] <alp> Hoho, hello
[19:26] <funnyhaha> do you think i can install linux form a external hdd
[19:26] <i7c> funnyhaha: sure
[19:26] <pepee> dalton2345, "install pae"? it comes supported by the ubuntu kernel
[19:26] <kzr22> hi, how do i run xchat as not root in backtrack so i can access backtrack irc?
[19:27] <alp> Hoho fofo toto hello
[19:27] <pepee> kzr22, create another user, or edit chat configs to not show "root " as user
[19:27] <amarcolino> zal, I undertsand that but in certain situations it is necessary specially when dealing with web apps/packages just thought there would be a way to automate the process instead of manually doing it
[19:27] <satyanash> !PAE
[19:27] <dalton2345> right pepee but you need to install it
[19:27] <auronandace> kzr22: why not go the whole hog and dump backtrack and install ubuntu
[19:27] <Pici> dalton2345: not in more recent releases of Ubuntu.
[19:27] <kzr22> auronandace: cause i like backtrack
[19:28] <pepee> dalton2345, no, you need to compile the kernel with that option enabled
[19:28] <Zal> amarcolino, typically with web apps, a user adds files through the app, which writes them to the filesystem as the www user anyway.
[19:28] <mirko1> alp: stop that, if noboby knows an answer, what do you expect. more patience please and what was your original question?
[19:28] <gr33n7007h> backtrack is ubuntu
[19:28] <dalton2345> ok pici i'm still on 11.10 ;)
[19:28] <alp> mirkol, it was "hello"
[19:28] <kzr22> gr33n7007h, i am aware
[19:28] <auronandace> gr33n7007h: not quite
[19:28] <gr33n7007h> course it is
[19:28] <kzr22> its a distribution of ubuntu
[19:28] <LjL> uh, no
[19:28] <gr33n7007h> backtrack is 10.04
[19:28] <Myrtti> !backtrack
[19:28] <auronandace> gr33n7007h: no, it is ubuntu based, big difference
[19:28] <Pici> dalton2345: That would be a recent release of Ubuntu.
[19:29] <alp> Original question: How do you get your mousepad working? Out of the box?
[19:29] <gr33n7007h> just with a ton of pentesting tools
[19:29] <pepee> gr33n7007h, that's like saying ubuntu is debian
[19:29] <pn_123123> !mint
[19:29] <dalton2345> pici sorry 11.04 i have
[19:29] <kzr22> jsut need to know how to access irc as non root in backtrack sorry i have to ask here cause backtrack channel blocks me
[19:30] <amarcolino> Zal, true except the folder must still be owned otherwise I egt some annoying messages, after that it's fine
[19:30] <alp> mirkol, so nobody knows this question?
[19:30] <auronandace> kzr22: you shouldn't be logged in as root anyway, its very bad practice
[19:30] <amarcolino> Zal, ownded by www:date other I get some annoying messages, nevermind
[19:31] <Pici> alp: I think you mean 'touchpad' The mousepad is the thing that sits between your mouse and the desk.
[19:31] <kzr22> auronandace, im trying to find how to not be root
[19:31] <kzr22> auronandace, backtrack is wierd
[19:31] <mirko1> alp: at least I don't know an answer. maybe you should try the forum and provide hardware info (what laptop, etc)
[19:31] <pepee> kzr22, menu-> confiuration ?
[19:31] <alp> yes, Pici, sorry for my bad english, and I did it, thanks for not answering...
[19:32] <pepee> these hackers...
[19:32] <pirate> hi, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i was wondering if anyone knew of a Linux game, that had good graphics? i get sick of windows and it being closed source but Linux does not have good support for windows games. so i was hoping to find a Linux game, any genre really that was good. preferably free :)
[19:32] <LjL> kzr22: then don't use it. it's a distribution made for people who kinda know what they're doing, if you don't know how to switch from root to a normal user, then that's a hint you should be using something more user-oriented
[19:32] <auronandace> kzr22: backtrack is awful, somebody already told you how earlier, make a new user and log in as that user
[19:32] <Pici> alp: Just trying to help you get the right help.
[19:32] <gr33n7007h> adduser <user>
[19:33] <gr33n7007h> terminal login <user> then <password> then xchat
[19:33] <alp> Pici, I can get it working via synaptiks. I was asking if there are alternatives.
[19:33] <Pici> alp: why can't you continue to use synaptics?
[19:34] <kzr22> think i got it
[19:34] <kzr22> gr33n7007h, it says keith@bt in console am i logged in?
[19:34] <gr33n7007h> yes
[19:34] <kzr22> gr33n7007h, thanks
[19:34] <gr33n7007h> kk
[19:35] <alp> Pici, I was looking for a more lightweight software. But nevermind, it's working anyway.
[19:35] <pirate> hi, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i was wondering if anyone knew of a Linux game, that had good graphics? i get sick of windows and it being closed source but Linux does not have good support for windows games. so i was hoping to find a Linux game, any genre really that was good. preferably free :)
[19:35] <JViz> where can i find the configuration for the ubuntu 3.0.0-17-generic kernel build?
[19:35] <LjL> pirate: http://happypenguin.org/ lists virtually all Linux games
[19:35] <Ben64> pirate: Trine
[19:36] <kzr22> gr33n7007h,  it still wolnt let me join the channel
[19:36] <gr33n7007h> whats it saying
[19:36] <kzr22> gr33n7007h, that im banned
[19:36] <pirate> LjL: thanks :D
[19:37] <gr33n7007h> hey??
[19:37] <pirate> Ben64: thanks :D
[19:37] <kzr22> gr33n7007h, pretty sure thats just cause of root user though cause ive never been on channel
[19:37] <gr33n7007h> 1 sec
[19:38] <pepee> !playdeb
[19:38] <pepee> :/
[19:38] <pepee> pirate, playdeb.net
[19:38] <pepee> btw ubottu should have that
[19:39] <pepee> playdeb has its own repo for ubuntu users
[19:39] <pepee> and a channel: #playdeb
[19:39] <auronandace> !games
[19:39] <LjL> pepee: suggest it in #ubuntu-ops, but i suspect the reaction will be less than warm on third-party repositories
[19:39] <pepee> hehe
[19:39] <pirate> pepee, thanks :D this looks good. im surpised i did not find this in a google search.
[19:40] <pepee> pirate, seems to be somewhat new
[19:40] <pepee> LjL, I will
[19:40] <pirate> pepee, yes it does.  thanks for the help!
[19:44] <Jon--> Occasionally when I adjust the voljume on my speakers the sound gets very distroted. A computer restart fixes the issue
[19:44] <Jon--> What service do I need to restart to reload the sound driver and fix this w/o a restart?
[19:46] <pepee> Jon--, pulseaudio? not sure :/
[19:46]  * pehden is away: I'm busy
[19:47] <pirate> Jon--, try logging in and out next time it happens just to make sure its not your speakers and it is in fact Ubuntu.
[19:47] <winterpk> Hi everyone
[19:47] <pirate> Hello
[19:47] <Jon--> pirate, I'm going through earbuds I doubt it
[19:48] <pepee> Jon--, for the distort thing, try asking in #pulseaudio or #alsa
[19:48] <Jon--> pirate, A log out would work but that's a pain in the ass. is there a pulseaudio/alsa server?
[19:48] <Jon--> pepee, A log out works, I just need to restart it, nothing too advanced
[19:49] <mirko1> Jon--:  also sudo alsa force-reload sometimes helps
[19:49] <Zal> if it's alsa, "alsactl restore" should do it
[19:49] <pepee> Jon--, look in /etc/init.d
[19:49] <pepee> there is pulseaudio,  alsa-restore and alsa-store
[19:49] <pirate> Jon--, mirko1 seems to have a good idea,
[19:50] <pepee> service <something> restart
[19:50] <pirate> Jon--, perhaps you have a sound effect enabled in the volume settings? or perhaps have the mode changed?
[19:51] <rhin01> if a usb stick is formatted using "usb-creator-gtk" (which I use to blank it) on a 32 bit machine -- it won't mount on a 64 bit machine (xubuntu 10.04)
[19:52] <i7c> i wanna do something like    netstat -pca | grep -i "tcp"     and write the output to a file... how? if i ad >> output.txt, doesn't work
[19:53] <Salaria> Can anyone help me here in developing a chat application?
[19:54] <Salaria> Can anyone help me here in developing a chat application?
[19:54] <winterpk> I'm trying to do some file uploading on our Ubuntu server with php.  However, I'm getting a php error: ErrorException [ Warning ]: mkdir(): Too many links.  From what I've read this is because of too many files under one folder.  But I have all my files broken into sub folders.  Am I supposed to structure my folders directly off server root to avoid this issue? If not, how can I structure my
[19:54] <winterpk> folders properly?
[19:54] <pepee> Salaria, read the rfc's?
[19:54] <pepee> Salaria, lots of bots out ther
[19:54] <WordpressNoob> hail friends. after removing x11vnc my freenx is no longer working
[19:54] <WordpressNoob> this is on 11.10 oneiric
[19:55] <WordpressNoob> any ideas?
[19:55] <Salaria> pepee:  Hi, thanks for replying. Im new here and not much expert in java. Can you suggest me few tips to start from scratch?
[19:56] <pepee> Salaria, port a bot?
[19:56] <xamox> I'm am quite familiar with ubuntu, but does anyone know how I can install it on my mac mini?  I'm trying to install via USB, trying to hold down ctrl+alt+o+f, alt, etc. Nothing seems to work.   I basically just need to know how to boot to drive, don't need dual boot.
[19:56] <WordpressNoob> xamox, hold down Option during boot?
[19:57] <pepee> winterpk, /join #php ?
[19:58] <Salaria> pepee:  suggest me few!
[19:58] <pepee> Salaria, http://www.jibble.org/pircbot.php  :P
[19:58] <WordpressNoob> anyone? help with freenx? :(
[19:58] <winterpk> My question is really about file/folder limit in Ubuntu. Can I have 600k files under a single directory with sub-directories?  Or do I have to break them into separate folders off root?
[19:58] <rhin01> does using torrents (transmission) ever give problems on a system?  viruses / security problems etc (that is apart from the files)
[19:58] <pepee> Salaria, never did something like that, but php bots are very simple, so you can take one and port it
[19:58] <MasterOfDisaster> somebody please tell me why I can't install (http://paste.ubuntu.com/915080/) libsdl1.2debian + libsdl1.2debian:i386 side by side here (ubuntu 11.10)
[19:59] <guntbert> i7c: in what way "does it not work"?
[19:59] <pepee> rhin0, it shoulnd't
[20:01] <i7c> guntbert: in a stupid way. i'm sorry i filtered too much with grep. it does work :) thanks anyways!
[20:01] <guntbert> i7c: glad you worked it out :)
[20:02] <media> hi am having problem with xutils-dev am using ubuntu 10.04 and need xorg-macros version 1.15 or higher
[20:02] <gadien> Hi all :)
[20:02] <media> but I have 1.11.0
[20:02] <pepee> master_of_master, apt-get install zsnes:i386 libsdl1.2debian:i386  ?
[20:03] <gadien> super nintendo?
[20:03] <pepee> MasterOfDisaster, apt-get install zsnes:i386 libsdl1.2debian:i386  ?
[20:04] <pepee> xamox, /j #mac ?
[20:04] <media> anyone know how I can get that?
[20:04] <pepee> media, paste the ouput in pastebin
[20:05] <gadien> pepee: are you talking about installing the zsnes emulator?
[20:05] <pepee> gadien, MasterOfDisaster is having troubles installing it
[20:05] <winterpk> Anyone have any ideas on my problem? Is 600k files broken into subfolders under one directory in Ubuntu too many?  If so, how am I supposed to structure all my files (which will continue to grow).
[20:06] <gadien> pepee:  oic, nice to see it can be done :)
[20:06] <pepee> winterpk, what file system?
[20:06] <media> hi pepee, paste what?  all I need updated package which is not in repo
[20:07] <media> and I don't know how to get it
[20:07] <winterpk> ext4
[20:07] <xamox> peepee, I will go try the mac channel, thanks.
[20:07] <pepee> media, download it from packages.ubuntu.com ?
[20:07] <winterpk> @pepeeis it possible that I just have too many subfolders?
[20:08] <alp> So I am done, my main question was to anonymize flash activity.
[20:08] <guntbert> winterpk: do you get an error? or why are you asking?
[20:08] <pepee> winterpk, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4#Features
[20:08] <alp> i7c, I routed all traffic to polipo, it still don't work, flash is still not anonymized.
[20:09] <gadien> Ok, In short: can I port my Firefox 11 profile info from XP to Ubuntu 11.10...
[20:09] <media> pepee tried that the package manger says newer version is available in repo
[20:09] <pepee> alp, flash is run locally,, so it will not work
[20:09] <alp> pepee, is it impossible to anonymize flash activity?
[20:09] <winterpk> guntbert: I get a php warning with mkdir()
[20:10] <pepee> media, apt-get install <package>:<version>
[20:10] <pepee> err
[20:10] <pepee> media, apt-get install <package>=<version>
[20:10] <craigbass1976> I need pdftk but without openjdk.  Is that possible with apt-get ?
[20:10] <pepee> alp, I think, yes
[20:10] <alp> hmm
[20:11] <MasterOfDisaster> pepee: apt would remove smplayer and vlc
[20:11] <Nk261> Hello, trying to get 11.04 server 64bit running in a VM. Once installed I ran update/upgrade then did a reboot. Now all I get is a blank screen with a line in the top corner. Any ideas? Ive done it twice
[20:11] <guntbert> winterpk: there is a 32,000 subdirectory limit
[20:11] <pepee> MasterOfDisaster, try usin aptitude
[20:12] <dalton2345> Nk261, without offending you...why running ubuntu in wm
[20:12] <guntbert> MasterOfDisaster: pepee: careful. aptitude has troubles with multiarch
[20:12] <i7c> alp: which desktop are you using now?
[20:13] <Nk261> dalton2345 I'm just doing some testing before I deploy it to my server
[20:13] <gadien> mokoloko: hey are you there?
[20:13] <here4thegear> is there an irc server in the repos?
[20:13] <dalton2345> Nk261, ok
[20:13] <media> pepee how do I find what version are available?
[20:14] <media> thanks
[20:14] <i7c> here4thegear: sure. ircd-irc2
[20:14] <zykotick9> here4thegear: check "apt-cache search ircd"
[20:14] <pepee> media, apt-cache search <package>
[20:14] <pepee> media, apt-cache show <package>
[20:14] <i7c> here4thegear: ircd-irc2 is the original. there are million others.
[20:15] <loganrun> how do I switch session managers from untunu to gnome
[20:15] <dalton2345> Nk261, its much better to install it in dual boot
[20:15] <loganrun> I think it asked me when I installed gnome but I didn't want to re-isntall
[20:16] <rhin0> you mean unity or gnome?
[20:16] <loganrun> well switch from unity to gnome
[20:16] <DasEi> loganrun: usually you choose session when loging into desktop
[20:16] <loganrun> yeah the session manager
[20:16] <DasEi> !nounity
[20:17] <loganrun> I am talking about the session manager, isn't that unity also
[20:17] <DasEi> loganrun: still gdm
[20:17] <media> pepee just checked and the one available is in packages is the only one which is outdated
[20:18] <loganrun> I use gnome, but the screen seems to freeze up when the screen saver comes on, i.e. I don't get the password prompt
[20:18] <dalton2345> if i chose to remain in 11.04 when they stop the updates...what can happen to my system?
[20:18] <media> is there a repo i can add to get more updated
[20:18] <pepee> media, download it from packages.ubuntu.com
[20:18] <dalton2345> choose^
[20:18] <rhin0> i'd ask that about 10.04 -- If I keep 10.04 after the support ends what happens
[20:18] <ezoe> I found a possibly bug in patched version of Ubuntu's unzip. where can I report it?
[20:19] <zykotick9> !bug > ezoe
[20:19] <DasEi> dalton2345: well EOF will take some time, sooner or later they won't maintain patches, and then dependencies of other apps might bork the sys
[20:19] <dalton2345> i wont rhin lol
[20:19] <media> pepee a link would be much appreciated, I think I must not be finding it.  Thanks
[20:20] <DasEi> media: checkout repogen.ch on google
[20:20] <dalton2345> DasEi, but if i'm not using much program, it will be ok?
[20:20] <ezoe> thanks... i'll read it.
[20:20] <DasEi> dalton2345: sure, if you're not concerned about security issues
[20:21] <DasEi> one could still run hardy or whatever.. with all the progress missing
[20:21] <dalton2345> DasEi, not really no
[20:21] <pepee> media, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=xutils-dev
[20:21] <cba123> I have a machine running Ubuntu off a flash drive.  All of the sudden, it won't boot from it.  It shows in the bios, I had it boot from it, but I just get a blinking underscore.  I can see the files if I plug the drive into another machine though.  Any ideas?
[20:21] <dalton2345> 11.04 will end their support soon i think its why i'm asking this
[20:21] <dalton2345> and unity doesnt do it for me
[20:22] <DasEi> cba123: do a fsk from another (live)system
[20:22] <pepee> cba123, corrupter install?
[20:22] <auronandace> dalton2345: you don't need to use unity, i have xfce
[20:22] <cba123> DasEi, I did, and there weren't any issues.
[20:22] <DasEi> dalton2345: I personallly are not a friend of it too, lubuntu, xubuntu, gnome.. and many more, core is same
[20:23] <DasEi> cba123: size of the drive ?
[20:23] <cba123> 16gig
[20:23] <media> hi pepee this what I get Error: A later version is already installed
[20:23] <dalton2345> auronandace, thats good to hear, but i like the old gnome for some reason lol
[20:23] <DasEi> cba123: so easy to get packages installed in a file, back data up, re-record it, will be quickest I guess
[20:24] <OneSquared> Hello, I try to compile apr apche. But I must compile libtool1. it's ok libtool1 compile but when I launch .configure --prefix=/path/ It don't work :/ I've an error : rm : cannot remove 'libtoolT':No such file or directory
[20:24] <gadien> Anyone direct me to the irc client most suitable for Linux please
[20:24] <OneSquared> Can you help me please ?
[20:24] <ikonia> OneSquared: apache is in the repo, you don't need to compile it
[20:24] <DasEi> !best | gadien
[20:24] <dalton2345> just # gadien
[20:24] <auronandace> gadien: most suitable? there are many clients to choose from, i use xchat or irssi
[20:25] <DasEi> !messengers | guardian
[20:25] <BathOryx> Konversation is a rather nice client as well.
[20:25] <dalton2345> xchat is really god
[20:25] <dalton2345> good
[20:25] <gadien> np's thanks all
[20:25] <OneSquared> ikonia, Ok so if I've apache. It's ok ?
[20:25] <ikonia> OneSquared: ???
[20:26] <ikonia> OneSquared: "it's ok?"#
[20:26] <media> pepee I need that package for libX11
[20:26] <media> to compile it
[20:26] <guntbert> OneSquared: did you want someting else (beside apache?)
[20:26] <OneSquared> ikonia, Sorry for my bad english :/
[20:26] <DasEi> gadien: pidgin for eye friendly easy to us plugin rich, irrssi for behind the carpet
[20:27] <ikonia> OneSquared: don't worry, just trying to understand
[20:27] <DasEi> use*
[20:27] <Pici> media: Why do you need to compile xorg?
[20:27] <OneSquared> I want compile subversion. But I haven't apr :/
[20:27] <media> no just need libX11 for vaapi
[20:27] <OneSquared> ikonia, Thanks
[20:27] <OneSquared> So I must install apache ?
[20:28] <ikonia> OneSquared: why do you want to compile subversion
[20:28] <ikonia> OneSquared: subversion is in the repo
[20:28] <media> another package depends on it
[20:28] <Pici> media: What are you really trying to do?
[20:28] <auronandace> !software | OneSquared
[20:28] <OneSquared> I want to learn environment unix. unix administration, etc...
[20:28] <OneSquared> So I don't use apt-get install
[20:28] <ikonia> OneSquared: why ? apt-get install will give you working packages
[20:29] <media> pepee am trying make softhddevice plugin to work
[20:29] <ikonia> OneSquared: compiling software in a safe manner is a.) unrequired b.) dangerous to your systems stability
[20:29] <loganrun> where is the screen saver configured. my system locks up when I lock the screen, well not the kernel, just the gui
[20:29] <OneSquared> ikonia, My system is in virtual machine.
[20:29] <andrewaclt> OneSquared, Run ubuntu then in virtualbox run lfs
[20:29] <ikonia> OneSquared: that doesn't change anything
[20:29] <OneSquared> andrewaclt, Yes.
[20:30] <ArchNemesis> is there really no way to disable remove revert or at the very least move the unity bar
[20:30] <ArchNemesis> i cant stand it
[20:30] <auronandace> OneSquared: linux from scratch is a good suggestion to learn in a vbox
[20:30] <media> which needs libX11 >> which needs xorg-macros version 1.15
[20:30] <orbisvicis> how do I set the gtk3 theme ?
[20:30] <scientes> auronandace, *kvm + virt-manager
[20:30] <media> or higher
[20:30] <DasEi> loganrun: man xscreensaver
[20:30] <orbisvicis> I've modifed ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini to gtk-theme-name = Ambiance but  it does nothing
[20:31] <OneSquared> auronandace, Yes. And here, I want compile svn and it not possible. because I must have apr :/
[20:31] <ikonia> OneSquared:  you shouldn't compile it
[20:31] <ikonia> OneSquared:  it is in the ubuntu repo's, install it from there
[20:32] <DasEi> orbisvicis: not that I know that detail, but ambience maybe ?
[20:32] <guntbert> OneSquared: if you want to compile packages just for the feel of it, start with something small, without too many dependencies - usually you will find them in the files INSTALL or README
[20:32] <OneSquared> ikonia, Yes I know. But for learn, I want not use apt-get install. So i must compile.
[20:32] <ikonia> OneSquared: no - you don't
[20:33] <loganrun> I kept messing with it, it seems like I can acutally log in, but the password box is just not visible, and the screen is black
[20:33] <ikonia> OneSquared: svn is a bad place to learn
[20:33] <OneSquared> guntbert, Ok.
[20:33] <auronandace> OneSquared: listen to guntbert
[20:33] <loganrun> not sure how to resolve this
[20:33] <OneSquared> Ok, thanks all =)
[20:34] <orbisvicis> hmmm had to reboot
[20:34] <orbisvicis> strange
[20:34] <orbisvicis> not needed for gtk-2.0
[20:34] <loganrun> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/569993
[20:34] <media> thanks all and pepee I'll keep trying
[20:34] <loganrun> this sounds similar to my problem
[20:35] <ikonia> loganrun: so is there a fix in the bug report ?
[20:35] <loganrun> don't have any idea, I would settle for a work around
[20:35] <loganrun> why doesn't everyone have this issue
[20:36] <ikonia> loganrun: if there isn't a fix in the bug report, it's not been fixed yet
[20:36] <auronandace> loganrun: why don't you read the bug report to find out if there is a workaround
[20:36] <ikonia> loganrun: not everyone has it as not everyone has your card/make/modeul/ubuntu version/resolution/driver versions
[20:37] <loganrun> yeah I don't haev anything like the graphics card mentioned in the report
[20:37] <dalton2345> loganrun, do you have this problem after an upgrade?
[20:38] <longcat> Hello offical ubuntu support channel.  How do I get an animated gif to be as the desktop background and appear animated like?
[20:38] <loganrun> well removed xscreensaver, and it seems that at least I can lock the screen now
[20:38] <thiebaude> Idont even have a screensaver,lol
[20:39] <dalton2345> i turn off screensaver right after install
[20:39] <loganrun> hopefully the screen will blank or something
[20:39] <dalton2345> lol
[20:39] <RDMonkey> JAJAJAJ XD!!!!
[20:39] <dalton2345> screensaver=gadgets ;)
[20:39] <loganrun> dalton2345, not entirely sure, it seems like it started occuring when I started using gnome instead of unity, I don't think other window managers suffer from this issue
[20:39] <thiebaude> where is there an option to turn the screensaver off?
[20:40] <RDMonkey> lo
[20:40] <loganrun> thiebaude, I just uninstalled it, not sure what that will do
[20:40] <RDMonkey> elvis
[20:40] <dalton2345> thiebaude, its in your system config
[20:40] <RDMonkey> lo
[20:41] <thiebaude> loganrun, what graphics card?
[20:41] <thiebaude> thanks dalton2345
[20:41] <elvis> what?
[20:41] <RDMonkey> your name
[20:41] <RDMonkey> lo
[20:41] <thiebaude> where?
[20:41] <thiebaude> lol
[20:41] <Pici> RDMonkey: stop that
[20:41] <ikonia> RDMonkey: this is an ubuntu technical support channel, do you need help with ubuntu ?
[20:41] <RDMonkey> but
[20:41] <RDMonkey> :c
[20:41] <RDMonkey> okay fine ill go
[20:42] <loganrun> thiebaude, nvidia geforce gts 450, running dual monitor
[20:42] <loganrun> well it looks like under the control pannel I have it set to turn the screen off after 10 minutes, wonder if that will work without the xscreensaver
[20:42] <thiebaude> i have the nvidia 8400 gs on the desktop
[20:43] <loganrun> time to increase my digital vibrance
[20:43] <thiebaude> dalton2345, advanced settings or system settings?
[20:43] <thiebaude> i got both
[20:43] <luc4> Hi! Is there someone who can tell me how to downgrade a single package. The problem is that installing specifying the version is trying to remove half the system for some unknown reason.
[20:43] <jigrap> is it possible to update from the 12.04 nightly build to the stable 12.04 when it gets released at the end of the month?
[20:44] <auronandace> !final | jigrap
[20:44] <thiebaude> jigrap, just keep updating the system
[20:44] <jigrap> cool thanks
[20:44] <thiebaude> yw
[20:44] <thiebaude> :)
[20:44] <jigrap> you guys go in kernel freeze tomorrow?
[20:45] <Zaitzev> anyone here running an ftpserver from their ubuntu 11.10? I want to set one up, tried gadmin-proftpd but that didn't work at all..
[20:45] <luc4> Anyone who noticed that recently any software is crashing with segfaults?
[20:45] <DasEi> luc4: you can remove the current up to-date one, then manually install an older deb/tarball and then lock it in apt from updating, well dependencies might get borked then
[20:46] <mirko1> luc4: caution! i recently damaged another person's system by doing exactly that: forcing downgrade of a single package! so you have any PPA's installed which provide a different version of a required package?
[20:47] <luc4> I think an older version is available, it was upgraded some hours ago. But trying to install the previous is removing a lot of packages.
[20:47] <ikonia> luc4: what is the package ?
[20:47] <luc4> I would like to rollback any update in the last 2 days.
[20:47] <ikonia> luc4: what is the package ?
[20:47] <DasEi> luc4: maybe it's easier to give better advice if you tell whole story, which app causes the problem ?
[20:47] <luc4> libglapi-mesa and some others I suspect are breaking my system.
[20:47] <ikonia> !info libglapi-mesa
[20:48] <ikonia> luc4: what version are you installing ?
[20:48] <luc4> Firefox is segaulting, Qt Creator, Konsole etc...
[20:48] <ikonia> luc4: onething at at time
[20:48] <ikonia> luc4: what version are you installing ?
[20:48] <luc4> The previous was 7.11-0ubuntu3.1.
[20:48] <dalton2345> thiebaude, system setting if i remember correctly
[20:48] <alp> I am still looking for anonymizing flash activity
[20:48] <ikonia> luc4: no, what version are YOU installing
[20:49] <ikonia> alp: not going to happen
[20:49] <ikonia> alp: don't like it - don't use flash
[20:49] <taek>  anonymize flash?
[20:49] <auronandace> alp: flash, as in adobe flash?
[20:49] <ikonia> taek: just nonsense, ingore
[20:49] <luc4> I'm downgrading from 7.11-0ubuntu3.2 to 7.11-0ubuntu3.1.
[20:49] <taek>  use Tor
[20:49] <thiebaude> ok
[20:49] <alp> yes as in adobe
[20:49] <alp> taek, O RLY?
[20:49] <taek>  use Tor or some proxy service
[20:49] <luc4> I would like to rollback any update if possible.
[20:49] <ikonia> luc4: ok I'm stopping helping you as you won't answer my question
[20:49] <alp> ikonia, why?
[20:50] <luc4> ikonia: sorry, then it means I'm not understanding the question.
[20:50] <ikonia> luc4: yeah "what version are you installing" is a tough question
[20:50] <ikonia> luc4: good luck
[20:50] <alp> ikonia, It is not nonsense if you don't know the answer.
[20:51] <alp> auronandace, do you have any idea?
[20:51] <luc4> ikonia: English is not my language, no reason to get angry.
[20:51] <auronandace> alp: flash is closed source, how do you propose to "anonymize" it?
[20:51] <ikonia> alp look it's just tcp IP traffic, so you either need to mask all that, or you could live in the real world and realise that there is no need to anonymise flash
[20:51] <ikonia> luc4: not getting angry, just can't be bothered begging you for information.
[20:52] <taek> you  can 't anonymize flash itself, but you can nonymize yourself by using a proxy service or tor
[20:52] <excelsior> super
[20:52] <taek> Just food for thought
[20:52] <ikonia> alp: the reality is, you don't need to anonymise anything, just use your cmoputer
[20:52] <alp> ikonia, that's it?
[20:52] <luc4> ikonia: I can give you if I understand the question. I don't know what package is causing troubles here, I need to rollback any updates. I was starting with libglapi-mesa.
[20:53] <ikonia> alp yes, what are you trying to hide from who ?
[20:53] <alp> ikonia, from egoists
[20:53] <ikonia> alp: what' the problem, use your computer,
[20:53] <ikonia> alp egoists ? what ?
[20:53] <DasEi> luc4: you could look up system's logs/messages or strace certain crashing apps rather
[20:53] <Zaitzev> I just installed proftpd-basic and wonder what I can do about users, shares and whatnot. Anyone here that can help a little?
[20:53] <alp> ikonia yes, egoist, whom kick you for personal reasons
[20:54] <ikonia> alp kick you from what ?
[20:54] <alp> ikonia, from a room
[20:54] <ikonia> alp: it's just a flash application, what are you trying to hide from ?
[20:54] <auronandace> ikonia: i think he is having a dig at you
[20:54] <luc4> DasEi: applications are segfaulting randomly. Quite difficult. I can try strace.
[20:54] <luc4> DasEi: anyway, I'm sure it was a recent update.
[20:54] <ikonia> auronandace: he's not, he's getting kicked from chat rooms (I wonder why) and wants to hide he's rejoining
[20:54] <alp> ikonia, i am trying to hide myself for no reason, if you are looking for a reason, you can ignore me. thank you.
[20:55] <luc4> DasEi: I'm not the only one experiencing this.
[20:55] <auronandace> ikonia: with flash? that makes no sense
[20:55] <ikonia> auronandace exactly, it's nonsense
[20:55] <luc4> DasEi: any non-trivial application is crashing.
[20:55] <DasEi> luc4: any foreign repos activated ? did an full update&-grade
[20:55] <elijah> I downloaded and installed vsftpd to transfer some files to a local computer, when I to to ftp://<IP_ADDRESS> in nautilus I get a password prompt, i choose anonymous and it boots me out, any ideas? I didn't do any advanced setup.
[20:56] <elijah> I followed basic instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[20:56] <alp> auronandace, ikonia, google everywherechat, mess up with some mods, get banned, it will make sense.
[20:56] <ikonia> alp: look, I can see in 30 seconds you are using the ip <IP_ADDRESS> you are part of the Turk Telekom network,
[20:56] <ikonia> alp: it's not a problem to see/know this inforamtion
[20:56] <DasEi> elijah: you gave the correwct pass of the remote pc ?
[20:56] <luc4> DasEi: yes, I have some repos for backports.
[20:56] <alp> ikonia, I am not hiding myself from IRC
[20:56] <Aster> Hi!
[20:57] <ikonia> alp: yes, but IRC is tcp IP - the same as your flash chat room
[20:57] <ikonia> alp: so the same can be seen
[20:57] <elijah> DasEi: There is no pass for anon
[20:57] <alp> ikonia, the problem is that site doesn't use tcp IP, they use flash hostnames instead.
[20:57] <Aster> I need help with the xVidCap recording software. Basically, It asks for a folder with my audio device, and I have no idea where that is, can anyone help me?
[20:57] <auronandace> alp: step 1: don't use flash, step 2: obey the rules so you don't get kicked
[20:58] <ikonia> alp it HAS to use IP
[20:58] <ikonia> alp: that's how the internet works
[20:58] <thiebaude> or dont use the internet, just saying
[20:58] <ikonia> alp: dont' worry about it, just use your flash chat and enjoy
[20:58] <ikonia> alp: there is nothing to hide
[20:58] <luc4> DasEi: any way to rollback all the upgrades until a certain day?
[20:58] <auronandace> alp: doesn't use tcp ip? what world are you living in?
[20:58] <urbancommando>  lol
[20:59] <taek> alp why are you concerned about IP address?
[20:59] <urbancommando> what is tcp ip lol
[20:59] <urbancommando> jking
[20:59] <alp> I can hide my IP, I am talking about the FLASH HOSTNAME.
[20:59] <elijah> DasEi: It was the config file, the instructions didn't mention anon is disabled by default
[20:59] <taek> who cares about the flash hostname?
[20:59] <ikonia> alp: ok, then the answer is "talk to the person who wrote the flash application"
[20:59] <DasEi> elijah: working now ?
[20:59] <ssta> so, now that xorg.conf is deprecated, how am I suppose to tell X to emulate a 3 button mouse?
[20:59] <urbancommando> he's using flash protocol
[20:59] <ikonia> alp: the flash application you are using is closed source, so we can't change it to hide it - so talk to the person who wrote the flash application
[20:59] <elijah> DasEi: yes
[20:59] <taek> use adifferent method of connection
[21:00] <DasEi> nice
[21:00] <urbancommando> with flash layers
[21:00] <urbancommando> lol
[21:00] <mirko1> luc4: no, but your problem is like related to a PPA you have installed. as I said i have damaged another system in a similar situation but we where able to repair it wiith ppa-purge
[21:00] <taek> mIRC or something else with SOCKS5 support
[21:00] <Aster> Anyone?
[21:01] <alp> which looks like; 96BC70.9DFD44.62BC19.B8E680
[21:01] <alp> ok thanks for the answer
[21:01] <taek> alp that's anonymizing or rather masking your IP address
[21:01] <luc4> mirko1: If provide my sources.list, can you give it a look?
[21:01] <ssta> ah: sudo apt-get install gpointing-device-settings
[21:01] <DasEi> luc4: well I could tell you, but don't think it's a good idea, rather either drop additional repos or pinpoint the issues app-wise
[21:01] <taek> it's a feature of IRC servers that can't reverse lookup the IP
[21:01] <mirko1> luc4: maybe, pastebin
[21:02] <alp> what about this : ewc-5bdecc07.sasknet.sk.ca, can I anonymize this?
[21:02] <auronandace> alp: so in essence you are asking how to ban-dodge? that may get you banned here
[21:02] <DasEi> luc4: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:03] <luc4> mirko1: http://pastebin.com/9TpjQL05
[21:03] <alp> auronandace, I have my own room, I ban myself, I want to ban-dodge myself, now its legal.
[21:03] <DasEi> luc4:  pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[21:03] <Aster> Anyone?
[21:03] <alp> huh?
[21:03] <luc4> DasEi: ok
[21:03] <DasEi> Aster: haven't seen your question
[21:03] <Aster> I need help with the xVidCap recording software. Basically, It asks for a folder with my audio device, and I have no idea where that is, can anyone help me?
[21:03] <Aster> Well.
[21:04] <Aster> It asks where to capture audio from.
[21:04] <auronandace> alp: please don't ask for help on ban-dodging
[21:04] <DasEi> Aster: never worked with that, guess you should look in /dev/
[21:04] <taek>  alp that's  not a question  for #Ubuntu
[21:04] <soreau> Aster: Is it looking for something like /dev/dsp by chance?
[21:04] <elijah> Can I hook two computers up with ethernet to ftp, easily? Both ubuntu
[21:04] <alp> ok, question closed.
[21:04] <taek> alp: please take your question to #help
[21:04] <luc4> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/915182/, http://paste.ubuntu.com/915183/
[21:05] <Aster> soreau, yes.
[21:05] <Aster> But it's not capturing anything.
[21:05] <soreau> Aster: Try 'padsp <xvidcap command>'
[21:05] <taher> hi there ...... i have a question .... i deleted tha path variable contents by mistake how to retrive it ?
[21:05] <tdlam> hi folks
[21:05] <taek> Aster is your camera reconized by the PC?
[21:05] <luc4> DasEi: it seems I also found a way to reproduce.
[21:05] <DasEi> elijah: you could, but other ways like rsync over ssh , samba are more effektive, or nfs or such
[21:05] <Aster> It's screencap, taek.
[21:05] <Aster> And, I use an external sound card.
[21:06] <Aster> soreau, what do you mean by xvidcap command? xvidcap has commands?
[21:06] <taek> The screen cap is not capturing so or video?
[21:06] <soreau> Aster: Well how are you startin xvidcap?
[21:06] <taek> err so und or video
[21:06] <Aster> soreau, by double-clicking on it.
[21:06] <tdlam> was wondering if anyone could tell me how to see my windows machines on samba...
[21:07] <taher> there?
[21:07] <taek> tdlam file sharing has to be enabled in windows
[21:07] <urbancommando> DasEi i believe the directory xvidcap uses is /dev/dsp or you can try this http://pastebin.com/8zhH20Yd
[21:07] <taek> if it's windows 7 you have to do extra configuration
[21:07] <tdlam> it is already...on all my machines
[21:08] <taek> Is samba set to a work group?
[21:08] <DasEi> luc4: first guess the extra repo should be commented out, and fsck because of often remounts
[21:08] <tdlam> plain workgroup I believe
[21:08] <soreau> Aster: In your terminal, try padsp xvidcap
[21:08] <luc4> DasEi: so I should comment that repo and update/upgrade?
[21:09] <Aster> soreau, Okay
[21:09] <DasEi> urbancommando: tell Aster ;)
[21:09] <sikilpaake> how can i get my .sh files to open with xfce-terminal?
[21:09] <sikilpaake> and not with "sh"
[21:09] <tdlam> weird because at first i was seeing evrything no problems but now nothing
[21:10] <soreau> sikilpaake: /path/to/file.sh or if it's in the current working directory, ./file.sh
[21:10] <DasEi> luc4: yes, but if you did with it enabled, will have to wait some time or re-install followed up packages
[21:10] <taek> tdlam have you since retarted the windows machines?
[21:10] <tdlam> yes all of them
[21:10] <sikilpaake> soreau: i meant assocation, though
[21:10] <Aster> soreau, I don't see a change in the prefrences.
[21:10] <DasEi> sikilpaake: ./blah.sh
[21:10] <taek> Including ubunttu?
[21:10] <tdlam> ty for your help BTW
[21:10] <soreau> sikilpaake: Oh I don't know, maybe in some xfce setting
[21:10] <sikilpaake> soreau:
[21:11] <sikilpaake> soreau: ok
[21:11] <soreau> Aster: preferences?
[21:11] <luc4> DasEi: and sorry, what about fsck?
[21:11] <taek> tdlam have you restarted the samba server or the system it runs on?\
[21:11] <DasEi> luc4: your syslog shows lot of ro-remount erros, so I'd check the hd from a live medium
[21:11] <Aster> soreau, yeah, it still says my audio capture folder thing is dev/dsp
[21:12] <luc4> DasEi: I'm not the only one experiencing this.
[21:12] <tdlam> sorry could you tell me how to restrt my samba server? I'm on a xubuntu laptop ATM
[21:12] <urbancommando> DasEi it seems that the /dev/dsp is obsolete so one option is to use padsp to run it. Try padsp xidcap in terminal
[21:12] <luc4> DasEi: So it shouldn't be machine-specific.
[21:12] <taek> Terminal: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[21:12] <soreau> Aster: When you use psdsp, it's supposed to simulate /dev/dsp for the program running under it
[21:12] <DasEi> urbancommando: it's still Asters issue, not mine ;)
[21:12] <Aster> soreau, Oh. I see.
[21:12] <urbancommando> oh lol
[21:12] <taek> tdlam - Terminal: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[21:12] <Jazzofilus> hi
[21:13] <DasEi> urbancommando: DasEi it seems that the /dev/dsp is obsolete so one option is to use padsp to run it. Try padsp xidcap in terminal  << Aster
[21:13] <urbancommando> Aster try padsp xvidcap in terminal lol
[21:13] <idan_> hey! i need help, How can i make qbitorrent start on startup?
[21:13] <idan_> there is any way to? i'm in ubuntu 11.10
[21:13] <urbancommando> DasEi sry lol
[21:13] <idan_> hey! i need help, How can i make qbitorrent start on startup?
[21:13] <mirko1> idan_: Sytem -> Preferences -> Startup Aplications
[21:13] <luc4> DasEi: I commented out deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric main, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, but nothing was done.
[21:13] <BlueEagle> idan_: Do you want to start it upon startup or upon login?
[21:14] <DasEi> urbancommando: np, that shows you're busy, haha
[21:14] <tdlam> ok I'll try it now brb TYTY
[21:14] <BlueEagle> !patience | idan_
[21:14] <luc4> DasEi: Did I do something wrong?
[21:14] <taher> i deleted tha path variable contents by mistake how to retrive it ?
[21:14] <taek> tdlam no problem
[21:14] <bekks> taher: Where did you delete them?
[21:14] <DasEi> luc4: no, but as I told you last post, if there was something installed from it which conflicts, you will have re-install it
[21:15] <DasEi> have to*
[21:15] <tdlam> hmmm got this error:
[21:15] <tdlam> sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found
[21:15] <luc4> DasEi: can I know what was installed from that repo?
[21:15] <taher> bekks : from konsol
[21:15] <cypher-neo> Is there any way to uninstall the Ubuntu Software Center? I have Synaptic installed, and I hate the USC popping up every time I want to install a file.
[21:15] <DasEi> tdlam: sudo service samba start
[21:15] <DasEi> ..stop
[21:15] <bekks> taher: and _where_?
[21:15] <bekks> taher: What exactly did you do?
[21:15] <tdlam> ok trying BRB tyty
[21:16] <taek> As DasEi stated,  alternative way
[21:16] <tdlam> unrecognised service...hmmm
[21:16] <mirko1> and /etc/init.d/smbd without using service
[21:17] <urbancommando> idan_ you can use the startup ...
[21:17] <taher> i'm on scientfic linux ..... i added new content to the path  variable but the old other deleted .... don't know why exactly
[21:17] <zormit> hi. got problems with occasionally laggy computer, but don't know where/what to search for.
[21:17] <tdlam> could my samba be currpted in some way? I can print form my windows 7 network printer though form this laptop
[21:17] <xangua> cypher-neo: if you mean to install debs from external sources, you can install gdebi
[21:17] <xangua> !info gdeb | cypher-neo
[21:17] <bekks> taher: Scientific linux isnt Ubuntu. We're sorry, but we cant help you.
[21:17] <xangua> !info gdebi
[21:17] <taek> tdlam try /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[21:17] <Zal> zormit, "top" will tell you if something is monopolizing your CPU
[21:17] <taek> as stated  by mirko1
[21:18] <taher> bekks thank U ..... bt i thought it is the same concept
[21:18] <tdlam> ok trying ty
[21:18] <zormit> Zal: i tried htop, but could not see a process monopolizing CPU. will try top though.
[21:19] <tdlam> Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[21:19] <tdlam> utility, e.g. service smbd restart
[21:19] <tdlam> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[21:19] <tdlam> Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) and then start(8) utilities,
[21:19] <tdlam> e.g. stop smbd ; start smbd. The restart(8) utility is also available.
[21:19] <tdlam> stop: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.141" (uid=1000 pid=635 comm="stop smbd ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Stop" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init")
[21:19] <FloodBot1> tdlam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <DasEi> tdlam: sudo initctl restart smbd , but believe it's init/upstart nowadays
[21:19] <auronandace> zormit: htop is just a pretty top, they will give the same results
[21:19] <DasEi> I believe*
[21:19] <DasEi> oo
[21:19] <luc4> DasEi: I'm sure the problem arised today. In my changelog I see libglapi-mesa was updated. If I try to downgrade apt-get wants to remove hundreds of packages. Do you know why?
[21:20] <DasEi> dependencies ?!
[21:20] <zormit> auronandace: ok.
[21:20] <tdlam> not used to chat rooms sorry folks
[21:20] <DasEi> !paste | tdlam
[21:20] <luc4> DasEi: that library was installed today. So the previous had the same dependencies more or less. It is almost the last update done.
[21:20] <zormit> It algs especially after booting. Also, when I chance the display settings (got 2 displays)
[21:21] <zormit> s/algs/lags
[21:21] <luc4> DasEi: I'm not trying to remove it, but to downgrade it.
[21:21] <DasEi> luc4: yes, but they are there.. version back or forth, so ..
[21:21] <DasEi> !clone
[21:21] <DasEi> .. then remove, then re-clone
[21:22] <luc4> DasEi: sorry, what is re-clone?
[21:22] <DasEi> luc4: but just local oc, no other machine
[21:22] <sikilpaake> soreau: figured it out, thanks!
[21:23] <DasEi> luc4: you get a list of currently installed packages, do the removal , and then get previous selection back
[21:23] <kosaidpo> hello guys anyone using T&A modem 3G ??
[21:23] <tdlam> smbd start/running, process 700 <-thats what terminal now said
[21:23] <DasEi> tdlam: greetings
[21:24] <tdlam> hi Dasei
[21:24] <taek> tdlam check to see if you can now see the windows machines
[21:24] <luc4> DasEi: oh, ok, so I let it remove and then I reinstall those? Thanks, I'll try!
[21:24] <tdlam> ok Im checking and ty all
[21:24] <mirko1> tdlam: good. that's the correct message if the smbd service is restarted
[21:24] <DasEi> luc4: see given link, convienent command listet there, are just two
[21:24] <tdlam> no it wont see them
[21:25] <tdlam> I get an error messgae
[21:25] <sckauter> hello
[21:26] <sckauter> where i can find the latest kernel for ubuntu 10.04? pls
[21:26] <tdlam> "failed to get shared list form server"
[21:26] <auronandace> !info linux-generic lucid | sckauter
[21:26] <urbancommando> do you have shared folders enable on the windows machine?
[21:27] <mirko1> tdlam: might be a surprise to you, but error-messages are printed for a reason. the tell *what* error hapened. do *always* post the *excat* error message (copy/paste, don't retype(
[21:27] <tdlam> err...ok...gimme a sec
[21:28] <sckauter> so version <IP_ADDRESS>.47 (lucid) is the latest kernel for 10.04?
[21:28] <tdlam> Failed to retrieve share list from server.
[21:28] <auronandace> sckauter: indeed
[21:28] <sckauter> ok
[21:28] <tdlam> its in a winow dialougue box
[21:29] <tdlam> *window
[21:29] <d-snutz> ubuntu question, any linux gods out there?
[21:29] <DasEi> !ask
[21:29] <tdlam> thats what I get when I click on the network icon in my home folder
[21:30] <d-snutz> DasEi, i dont know what i did, but when i try to remove gwibber, empathy, brasero etc, its trying to remove desktop environment with it...  any suggestions?
[21:30] <sckauter> because im on low resolution :( 1024x768 instead 1600x900
[21:31] <tomreyn> hi! I'd like to use dkms but for some reason it never really works for automatically building the virtualbox modules on my oneiric system and i always need to resort to m-a update && m-a a-i virtualbox-source. could someone help me fix this?
[21:31] <auronandace> sckauter: kernel version doesn't affect your screen resolution, the graphics driver does
[21:32] <bibi23> hi, I've got an error when using sqlite with php pdo, (I've installed sqlite3.so extension and enabled it)
[21:32] <sckauter> so i need instal de drivers?
[21:32] <bibi23> it says the driver isn't found, do you know why?
[21:32] <bekks> tomreyn: From where did you install virtualbox? From the official packages from www.virtualbox.org?
[21:32] <auronandace> sckauter: indeed, you need the right graphics drivers
[21:32] <dalton2345> lot of people using ubunty in a virtual machine...i dont understand why
[21:32] <BathOryx> bibi23: Actually install sqlite3
[21:33] <BathOryx> bibi23: Yes, theres, sqlite3, and the pdo-thing for sqlite3.
[21:33] <tdlam> do you think the problem may be with the windows computers?
[21:33] <tomreyn> bekks: i'm using the OSE distribution, i.e. the packages provided by ubuntu
[21:33] <auronandace> dalton2345: vms are great testbeds
[21:33] <sckauter> ok ty auronandace  im going try install the nvidia drivers
[21:33] <DasEi> d-snutz: hardly, as it depends on each other, you could just get it out the menu
[21:33] <bekks> tomreyn: I'd purge them and use the official packages.
[21:33] <mirko1> tdlam: most probably there's some problem with your network configuration (or SMB config, like workgroup name or such). it's hard to diagnose this over irc
[21:34] <bekks> tomreyn: They do work :)
[21:34] <auronandace> sckauter: use the ones from the repos (not the nvidia site)
[21:34] <dalton2345> auronandace, not as much as a dual boot
[21:34] <tdlam> because as I said I can PRINT form the windows shared network printer...I just can't see the other computers...
[21:34] <sckauter> auronandace,  how?
[21:34] <tomreyn> bekks: this would not fix this issue. and i like open source software.
[21:34] <tdlam> oh ok ty mirkol
[21:34] <sckauter> :(
[21:34] <bibi23> BathOryx: i've juste installed it, restarted apache, still got the error...
[21:34] <auronandace> dalton2345: a vm is better as a testbed, dual-boot can affect what is currently on your disk, for better or worse
[21:34] <tdlam> I do appreciate all your kind help
[21:35] <auronandace> !nvidia | sckauter
[21:35] <bekks> tomreyn: Actually, it fixes that issue. It does not fix the second point ;)
[21:35] <bibi23> when I look in a phpinfo I can see hat the extension is enabled
[21:35] <sckauter> wooww ty auronandace
[21:35] <tomreyn> bekks: the PUEL püackages work with dkms?
[21:35] <auronandace> sckauter: no worries :)
[21:35] <tomreyn> -ü
[21:35] <DasEi> brb
[21:35] <dalton2345> auronandace, i never had trouble with dual boot, and i think its a better way to testing
[21:36] <bekks> tomreyn: There is no PUEL anymore since 4.x - ONLY the extension pack is licensed under PUEL, everything else is OSE.
[21:36] <d-snutz> DasEi, ive done it before but had a problem...  anyway i cant do it again for some reason
[21:36] <BathOryx> bibi23: sudo apt-get install sqlite php5-sqlite
[21:36] <genii-around> BathOryx: From the results at http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=sqlite3.so&mode=exactfilename&suite=oneiric&arch=any it's probably the package php-sqlite you need to provide sqlite3.so from the repositories
[21:36] <auronandace> dalton2345: if you are testing hardware yes, but a vm is simply safer
[21:36] <tdlam> well thank you all for your help...I'll see if I can hunt stuff down in the forums...perhaps I can find answers there
[21:36] <Zx432> Why are flash movies like example youtube lagging?
[21:36] <tdlam> all the best to you all
[21:36] <DasEi> d-snutz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1856991
[21:37] <auronandace> dalton2345: but like you, i've had no trouble dual-booting (thats because guys like us know what we are doing :) )
[21:37] <mirko1> tdlam: check if your machines are in the same sub-net, have the same workgroup, no firewall is blocking, no advanced authetication is used, etc, the most simple set up possible
[21:37] <tomreyn> bekks: thaks for pointing this out. you sneaked around answering my queston there, though. ;-)
[21:37] <dalton2345> auronandace, but its not the same as far as speed, and the allence experi
[21:37] <dalton2345> the all experience*
[21:38] <Defusal_> hi everyone
[21:38] <bekks> tomreyn: Using the official packages will solve your problem.
[21:38] <BathOryx> bibi23: Got it now?
[21:38] <tdlam> windows machines are in HOMEGROUP...but wierd thig is that this xubuntu laptop saw them all at forst no problem...I was eevn streaming vids form one of them...then nothing
[21:38] <mirko1> Zx432: what graphics hardware (and currently used drivers)?
[21:38] <pfifo> Does ubuntu have a tc front end?
[21:38] <genii-around> tdlam: I've found the most common issue when a machine can't be found automatically on the network, is that no broadcast address was given in the network setup
[21:39] <auronandace> dalton2345: you are right, but i was talking as a testbed, somewhere that is safe to muck things up in
[21:39] <Defusal_> can anyone tell me how i can restore sound when i used startx to restart gui, which started a XFCE desktop manager and now sound does not work?
[21:39] <DasEi> pfifo: tc=truecrypt ?
[21:39] <tomreyn> bekks: 'official' is very subjective in this case. i tend to consider those packaged by my distribution to be 'official', not upstreams'
[21:39] <mirko1> tdlam: so what happened before the problem arose?
[21:39] <tdlam> hmmm I dont know what that is about sorry...I'm not a very advanced user truth to tell
[21:39] <Defusal_> if anyone has any idea, please let me know, i have 4 minutes to solve this
[21:39] <dalton2345> true auronandace just saying i never experienced the best of linux via virtualbox
[21:39] <tomreyn> bekks: anyway, thanks for your opinion, that's good to know
[21:39] <Defusal_> else i have to make another plan and leave the machine till later
[21:40] <pfifo> DasEi, tc, traffic control
[21:40] <bekks> tomreyn: The packages from the developers arent upstream (their svn tree is). :)
[21:40] <tdlam> you know mirkol...I probably installed some app or some such...had to be that
[21:40] <bekks> tomreyn: Their packages are the official reference packages they do support.
[21:40] <DasEi> Defusal_: try sudo service alsa-utils (re)start
[21:40] <Zx432> GF 8800GT 640M 512MB DDR3 nvidia
[21:40] <tdlam> been configuring theis laptop over the last few days and am pretty new to linux
[21:40] <Defusal_> DasEi: alsa-utils: unrecognized service
[21:41] <sckauter> auronandace,  Go to System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers   --> i cant see the "Additional Drivers"
[21:41] <sckauter> strange
[21:41] <Zx432> drivers are Nvidias
[21:41] <tdlam> would uninstalling then reinstalling samba be a choice?
[21:41] <bibi23> BathOryx: thanks it's working know, I think the sqlite3 extension wasn't compatible with my php version? with pdo_sqlite.so it's working
[21:41] <bibi23> I'm in PHP 5.3.6
[21:42] <Defusal_> sigh, im so screwed
[21:42] <Defusal_> DasEi: thanks anyway for trying
[21:42] <BathOryx> bibi23: Nah, some crap sometimes gets changed/renamed.
[21:43] <auronandace> sckauter: might be called restricted drivers in 10.04, i can't remember
[21:43] <gadien> where can i find help with bash_completion?
[21:43] <abhisinghal> i wanat to remove ubuntu .How to do that? In which partition ubuntu is installed
[21:43] <BathOryx> bibi23: Or it could be that sqlite3 packages relied on sqlite for it to work properly. (Sometimes, extensions, or packages are not always a standalone).
[21:43] <sckauter> auronandace,  nops, i dont have restricted drivers
[21:43] <sckauter> :(
[21:44] <BathOryx> bibi23: Hey, whatcha using to browse/see in your sqlite databases?
[21:44] <bibi23> BathOryx: phpliteadmin
[21:44] <DasEi> Defusal_: sudo alsa force reload
[21:44] <auronandace> sckauter: try opening a terminal and typing jockey-gtk or gtk-jockey
[21:45] <auronandace> sckauter: its one or the other, i can't remember which way around
[21:45] <zorael> does anyone know how to get dnsmasq to use my VPN's nameservers? example: http://pastie.org/3729540
[21:45] <Zx432> Why are flash movies like example youtube lagging? I am using GF 8800GT 640M 512MB DDR3 nvidia on a Intel quad core.
[21:45] <tdlam> this is a noob question but how do i acess samba preferences in xubuntu? is it in a drop down menu?
[21:46] <Zx432> on 4 gb of DDR3.
[21:47] <rhin0> i think you have to install samba as an application tdlam
[21:47] <mirko1> tdlam: sorry can't help further, don't have any samba setup available at the moment :-(
[21:47] <DasEi> pfifo: not really the answer you looked for, you could use something like wondershaper in conjunction with a visual networking device, ntop and many more
[21:47] <tdlam> oh ok you guys are good folks thanks for the help
[21:47] <BathOryx> bibi23: I use: http://sqlitestudio.one.pl/ on my desktop, and http://sqlbuddy.com/
[21:47] <xangua> Zx432: flash sucks on *nix in general, you can try html5 on youtube
[21:47] <xangua> the thml5 player*
[21:48] <Zx432> don't I need acconut for that?
[21:48] <DasEi> mirko1: same here, just setting it all up agin, samba in the age of ssh ? many things changed
[21:48] <BathOryx> sqlitestudio is not a webpage app, but it's awesome and always up to date.
[21:49] <gadien> i know this is a noob question, but where can I get help on bash_completion?
[21:49] <DasEi> gadien: #bash
[21:49] <DasEi> gadien: or just need the info TAB-key ?
[21:49] <bibi23> BathOryx: yes they look good too ;)
[21:50] <gadien> DasEi, I went there but they told me it was a debian project
[21:50] <DasEi> gadien: what is the actual question ?
[21:50] <mirko1> DasEi: well, it's only that my last win machine is broken, i normaly have working samba setup, but yeah, smbfs rules! ;)
[21:51] <gadien> DasEi, I have the text loaded in clipboard
[21:51] <DasEi> gadien: and..
[21:52] <gadien> DasEi, acctually, My terminal always starts out with all these errors about bash_completion
[21:53] <DasEi> gadien: which errors? text in clipboard ?
[21:54] <gadien> DasEi, I'll paste it in a private channel?
[21:54] <DasEi> !paste
[21:54] <gadien> bash: /etc/bash_completion: line 1583: syntax error near unexpected token `curl'
[21:54] <gadien> bash: /etc/bash_completion: line 1583: `curl cut date df diff dir du enscript env expand fmt fold gperf gprof'
[21:54] <gadien> bash: /etc/bash_completion: line 1583: syntax error near unexpected token `curl'
[21:54] <gadien> bash: /etc/bash_completion: line 1583: `curl cut date df diff dir du enscript env expand fmt fold gperf gprof'
[21:55] <DasEi> gadien: see above , use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:56] <gadien> DasEi, ok.
[21:56] <DasEi> gadien: and what is the conjunction with clipboard or was it just that you had the error in clipboard? ah ok
[21:57] <gadien> DasEi, yes i copied the begining and kept it in clipboard until someone was ready to view the jargon
[21:58] <Kircle> I installed emerald in 11.10 but have decided against using it. I've removed all it's files yet after several minutes of using Ubuntu the window manager will stop working as I suddenly have no border around my windows (so no close, minimise and maximise buttons etc). Why might this be happening?
[21:59] <Crazydan> apt-get update fails for me
[21:59] <elkclone_>  /close
[22:00] <genii-around> Crazydan: Are you using sudo with it?
[22:00] <soreau> Kircle: You might need to set gtk-window-decorator in ccsm>Window Decoration>Command field
[22:00] <Crazydan> no
[22:00] <mirko1> Kircle: emerald is just a window-border decorator, not a window manager (for compiz) , you need to set metacity as the windoemanager gain
[22:00] <genii-around> Crazydan: sudo apt-get update
[22:00] <Crazydan> ok
[22:00] <gadien> DasEi, so, what am I supposed to do with the text? paste it again?
[22:01] <BathOryx> bibi23: http://demo.mywebsql.net/       <---- That one is also nice.
[22:01] <Crazydan> same thing
[22:01] <DasEi> gadien: http://paste.ubuntu.com  << call in browser, paste clipboard there, press paste-button, give changed url from browser here
[22:01] <Crazydan> brb gonna pastebin it
[22:02] <gadien> DasEi, oh ok
[22:02] <Kircle> soreau I have the entry 'gtk-window-decorator --replace' in that field. what should I change it to?
[22:02] <Tasmania> isn't most commands used with sudo password protected?
[22:02] <DasEi> gadien: as example : http://paste.ubuntu.com/915244/
[22:02] <gadien> DasEi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/915240/
[22:02] <DasEi> yupp
[22:03] <Tasmania> I just wanted to make sure.
[22:03] <Crazydan> paste.ubuntu.com/915245/
[22:03] <bibi23> BathOryx: yep, but I don't use sqlite a lot, it's only use it for phpunit tests so I don't really need an interface
[22:03] <soreau> Kircle: Make sure that gtk-window-decorator exists and you have compiz-gnome installed
[22:04] <DasEi> bash: /etc/bash_completion: line 1583: `curl cut date df diff dir du enscript env expand fmt fold gperf gprof'    is the issue, did you add any funcionality involving curl ? , gadien ?
[22:04] <BathOryx> bibi23: Well at least you know those tools exists, now you wont be pointed to these other whack SQL tools.
[22:04] <BathOryx> sqlite*
[22:05] <bibi23> aha do you mean phpliteadmin?
[22:05] <Kircle> soreau Both are present.
[22:05] <Crazydan> any help? paste.ubuntu.com/915245/
[22:05] <soreau> Kircle: Are you sure compiz is running? Can you move windows with Alt+Drag even without the border?
[22:06] <DasEi> gadien: I gtg soon, generate another pastie for the next one : sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/bash_completition
[22:06] <Tasmania> Is it possible to run Ubuntu - Linux in Virtualbox?
[22:06] <xangua> Tasmania: yes
[22:06] <K-Rich> why isn't this working: ls -laR !(folder_to_exclude/)
[22:06] <Kircle> soreau the window border has just gone again. But yes I can move the window with alt and drag
[22:06] <kantlivelong> is there a guide for making a usbiso for mac using linux?
[22:06] <zykotick9> Kircle: did you say it works, then stops?  Keep in mind that compiz isn't the most stable thing in the universe.  but it sounds to me, like it's crashing.
[22:06] <Crazydan> i'm running it with chroot
[22:06] <Tasmania> Will it ever disconnect if there's no internet access?
[22:06] <K-Rich> i've already done shopts -s extglob
[22:07] <DasEi> !unetbootin | kantlivelong
[22:07] <soreau> Kircle: So the border appears then disappears later? the decorator is probably crashing in that case
[22:07] <gadien> DasEi, I have no idea frankly, I installed 11.10 and the auto complete was not functioning so i did reasearch and they told me to do something so i did it
[22:07] <xangua> Kircle: for using emerald on oneiric you must have done some weird stuff, what did you do¿
[22:07] <DasEi> gadien: I gtg soon, generate another pastie for the next one : sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/bash_completition
[22:07] <DasEi> .. give url here
[22:07] <kantlivelong> DasEi: i know how to make a ubuntu bootable usb but isnt it different for mac machines?
[22:07] <Crazydan> paste.ubuntu.com/915245/
[22:07] <Crazydan> paste.ubuntu.com/915245/
[22:07] <Crazydan> paste.ubuntu.com/915245/
[22:07] <FloodBot1> Crazydan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:08] <soreau> xangua: emerald master works with 11.10
[22:08] <Tasmania> It sounds like a stupid question but an old friend of mine told me vps's connections are always connected no matter what state your original internet connection is in.
[22:08] <Crazydan> i wouldn't flood if soneone helped
[22:08] <xangua> soreau: emerald master¿
[22:08] <Kircle> xangua there was a thread on ubuntuforums on how to. You had to make it from source. I remember fiddiling with it in the past and had a similar problem. I forgot I vowed never to stray from gnome.
[22:08] <soreau> xangua: emerald compiz++ branch actually, on cgit.compiz.org
[22:09] <BathOryx> Crazydan: With such words pouring out your mouth, reading that slightly discourage us from helping you. Just wait a bit.
[22:09] <gadien> DasEi,  ok i get it hang on
[22:09] <xangua> Crazydan: jaunty is no longer supported
[22:09] <douglaslucas> Recommend an FTP client for Gnome3 Ocelot ?
[22:09] <xangua> !eol | Crazydan
[22:09] <Kircle> soreau should I run compiz in terminal and see why it crashes?
[22:09] <soreau> Kircle: or gtk-window-decorator, depending on what's crashing
[22:10] <Crazydan> can't upgrade :(
[22:10] <myr> anyone recommend an easy network manager for e17?
[22:10] <Crazydan> best my phone can run
[22:10] <Crazydan> is there a way to point it at other repositories?
[22:10] <DasEi> kantlivelong: process should be fine, but on the mac mention last part of :http://tinyurl.com/2uqw47e
[22:11] <zykotick9> myr: you basically have 3 options: A) no network manager B) Network-Manager C) wicd
[22:11] <gadien> DasEi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/915252/
[22:12] <Raptors> Hey, if any of you guys use reddit it'd be great if you guys upvote the "How linux is build" video under /r/videos. It's get linux more exposure. It's already on the top page
[22:12] <myr> zykotick9, dose network-manager provide a gui via tray icon? or would I need network-manager-gnome
[22:12] <Raptors> http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rt083/how_linux_is_built/
[22:12] <xangua> Raptors: don't spam please
[22:12] <Raptors> xangua, how is that spam?
[22:12] <Raptors> :/
[22:12] <zykotick9> myr: you'd probably need network-manager-gnome (i'm not 100% on that)
[22:12] <xangua> !ot | Raptors
[22:12] <Raptors> I am not making any money off it
[22:13] <myr> zykotick9, all right, thanks for your help!
[22:13] <Raptors> k :/
[22:13] <zykotick9> myr: is this a "mini" install?  if you need wireless you'd need GDM for network-manager to connect...
[22:13] <DasEi> gadien: I'm of now try again with sudo pastebinit /etc/bash_completition
[22:13] <DasEi> off*
[22:13] <myr> zykotick9, i installed ubuntu 11.04 mini, nodm, e17. works great. I am able to connect to my wireless with command-line
[22:14] <DasEi> and check your curl line 1583
[22:14] <gadien> DasEi,  Unable to read.
[22:14] <zykotick9> myr: ya, if you try N-M it might look like everything is working, but it doesn't connect.  if you run into that, you need GDM...
[22:14] <DasEi> gadien: open in editor then, sry , gtg now
[22:15] <gadien> DasEi, thanks anyway
[22:15] <zykotick9> myr: i'm stuck using wicd-curses on my EEE because of that N-M anti-feature
[22:15] <mirko1> DasEi, gardar: not sure but perhaps his/her /etc/bash_completion  is broken, maybe s/he should try: sudo apt-get purge bash-completion ; sudo apt-get install bash-completion
[22:16] <myr> zykotick9, i'm using an eeepc 701 (630MHz celeron M with 512k ram & 4gb ssd) -- I'd rather not use gdm if possible
[22:16] <gadien> mirko1, you mean me?
[22:17] <zykotick9> myr: ya, i don't want GDM on my EEE either ;)  i use mainly command line and a windows manager only (but i've got a whole lot more room then your 4GB ;)
[22:17] <mirko1> gadien:  yes, but it's only a guess, I'd like to be it confirmed. ;)
[22:17] <matty75> Hi. Just got a new lenovo and am having some trouble getting the install iso to boot.
[22:18] <gadien> mirko1, ok, I'll do that then
[22:18] <Kircle> When I opened chrome that's when compiz seemed to stop http://pastebin.com/sK65v4Fi
[22:19] <Elchzard> phpsysinfo won't display my distro name :(
[22:19] <Elchzard> lsb_release -a works fine and gives the output it should
[22:19] <Elchzard> 10.04 LTS
[22:19] <matty75> Anybody good with boot params?
[22:20] <myr> zykotick9, i will try n-m and see how it goes
[22:20] <zykotick9> matty75: are you getting a black screen?
[22:20] <mirko1> matty75: so what's the actual problem?
[22:20] <matty75> The graphics are all scrambled
[22:21] <zykotick9> matty75: is this one of those intel/nvidia laptops?  or do you know what gfx card is in it?
[22:21] <matty75> Intel hd in a laptop
[22:22] <matty75> Lenovo
[22:22] <gadien> mirko1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/915260/ and I'm male :)
[22:22] <Kircle> Yeah whenever I open chrome compiz stops saying 'segmentation fault'
[22:22] <mirko1> matty75:  you can try nomodeset
[22:23] <BathOryx> So?
[22:23] <gadien> mirko1, not that i'm insinuating.. nvm
[22:23] <matty75> How do i do that? I cant Even read thw screen to type
[22:23] <matty75> *the
[22:23] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | matty75
[22:23] <zykotick9> i've never heard of nomodeset being required for intel... but maybe?
[22:24] <matty75> Ok, thanks... its a brand new lappy
[22:24] <mirko1> gadien: worked well, problem still there?
[22:24] <allie83> when making a boot cd for xubuntu do i want to make a data or image?
[22:25] <roasted> Hello! I just purchased a Dell Latitude E4300 laptop. I was reading a review and the review mentioned the touchpad is not Synaptic and that it is Alps. I've never heard of Alps. Are Alps touchpad highly supported in Ubuntu?
[22:25] <bekks> allie83: When having an .iso file, you want image.
[22:25] <allie83> of course i did the opposite...thank you bekks!
[22:26] <zykotick9> roasted: i believe it should be fine - i've seen alps touchpads mentioned plenty (never used had one myself though)
[22:26] <gadien> mirko1, it appears to have gone back to how it was originally. idk, my initial problem was the auto completion in finding folder paths. i'll just have a look, see if it is the same
[22:26] <roasted> zykotick9: sounds good. I just kind of panicked because I was hoping I didn't make a wrong purchase. I never knew anything else existed.
[22:26] <roasted> zykotick9: first glance on Google revealed some users with issues, but then again, googling the same but -alps +synaptic yielded the same...
[22:26] <Rovanion> My sound has stopped working, and when I run alsamixer in a terminal it tells me that some file or folder cannot be found.
[22:27] <zykotick9> roasted: i like your google observation ;)  i'm sure it'll work out.
[22:27] <skel> a lot of touchpad issues for alps and elantech are fixed in 12.04 / 3.2 kernel
[22:27] <gadien> mirko1, it's working fine now :) auto completion is the way it should be
[22:28] <roasted> zykotick9: yeah. only semi scary point is someone on askubuntu said they were having issues, even with kernel 3.3 they said as a matter of days ago.
[22:28] <borkd> I need help recovering data from a crashed hard drive
[22:28] <roasted> borkd: fire up a live cd and see if you can mount the failed hard drive.
[22:28] <roasted> Guest96601: ^^
[22:28] <skel> borkd: Is the partition table still in-tact?
[22:28] <zykotick9> roasted: eeek...  that's not promising.
[22:28] <erisuco> debian or ubuntu?
[22:29] <mirko1> gadien: fine! :-) and for folder (directoy) completion see the readline settings "set mark-directories on" and "set mark-symlinked-directories on"
[22:29] <benwalburn> I'm trying to update my BIOS for my dell inspirion 1545. the dell website says A14 is the current version and I'm currently on A02. but when I use update_firmware, it says there's no available updates
[22:29] <roasted> zykotick9: no kidding, but I heard a lot of E4300 users say "it works great on Ubuntu!" which makes me think maybe that user was tinkering with things they shouldn't have.
[22:29] <zykotick9> erisuco: yellor or green?
[22:29] <erisuco> yellow
[22:29] <skel> Guest96601: I'd recommend http://sysresccd.org/ for a livecd
[22:29] <bekks> benwalburn: Then read the README very carefully, since you might have to upgrade in more than one step, like A02->A05->A09->A11-A15.
[22:29] <matty75> Zykotick9:  is there a way to activate nomodeset without booting to the splashscreen first... cant see it
[22:30] <bekks> benwalburn: And thats not an Ubuntu problem either ;)
[22:30] <zykotick9> matty75: you don't see the first one with the stick figure on it?  hummm, sorry don't know.
[22:30] <benwalburn> bekks: where is the readme?
[22:30] <zykotick9> !tab > matty75
[22:30] <benwalburn> bekks: it's ALWAYS dell's fault. I know this very well
[22:31] <bekks> benwalburn: In the archive you've downloaded or on the website you got the update from.
[22:31] <skel> Guest96601: there's a program on that livecd called photorec thats fairly good at pulling data of completely crashed filesystems where the hardware isn't gone totally bad (ie the disk heads read and the platter spins)
[22:32] <Rovanion> My sound has stopped working, and when I run alsamixer in a terminal it tells me that some file or folder cannot be found.
[22:32] <Rovanion> This is after I removed some Gnome packages, must have dragged with it some dependencies.
[22:33] <Rovanion> But I do have alsa-utils and alsa along with pulseaudio still installed.
[22:33] <benwalburn> bekks: I was under the impression that update_firmware downloaded it for me. the only place I know to download won't work. I click download and nothing happens. Do you have any suggestions?
[22:33] <Seveas> Rovanion, and which file is missing?
[22:34] <matty75> Zykotick9 ii can see purple, but its all scrambled so i cant read it
[22:34] <_Tristan> Hello. I just got a power cut during a module installation, and now the computer won't get last "loading ramdisk" when booting. Tried recovery mode and older kernels, same thing. Any ideas?
[22:34] <Rovanion> Seveas: I have no idea. All I got is that when I try to start alsamixer it tells me: The file or folder does not exist
[22:34] <Seveas> oh, so alsamixer itself is missing?
[22:34] <zykotick9> matty75: sorry I don't have any other suggestions :|  zyk<TAB> is a lot easier then Z-y-k-o-t-i-c-k-9
[22:35] <Rovanion> Seveas: No it's installed and tries to open some file it seems, exact error: cannot open mixer: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[22:35] <matty75> Zykotick9 i know... no tab key on my phone :)
[22:35] <zykotick9> matty75: ahhhh
[22:36] <Seveas> Rovanion, can you run this for me and pastebin the output: LC_ALL=C LANG=C strace alsamixer
[22:36] <Rovanion> _Tristan: Start from a live CD, chroot into the filesystem and try to do something something dark side. Can't remember exactly what.
[22:36] <mattfury> hello
[22:36] <_Tristan> great.. this computer HATES livecds...
[22:36] <mattfury> i want to run an armel version of ubuntu on my droid, but its only armv7
[22:37] <Rovanion> Seveas: Here you go: http://pastebin.com/tjEtyRYX
[22:37] <mattfury> you only support armv9?
[22:37] <_Tristan> Rovanion: Any idea where I should start looking for this dark-side thingthing?
[22:38] <Seveas> open("/dev/snd/controlC0", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[22:38] <Seveas> Rovanion, can you do 'id' and pastebin the output?
[22:39] <XGaryG> I use Empathy to access Yahoo. What would I need to install to chat thru my webcam?
[22:39] <Rovanion> _Tristan: I was thinking something along the lines of chrooting to the root partition and rerunning the upgrade. Either that or finding out what does the kernel module building.
[22:40] <_Tristan> Rovanion: Well, it was a module for a wifi dongle, which probably didn't and won't work
[22:40] <Rovanion> Seveas: Thank you for your time, here you go: http://pastebin.com/5AFR2xRA
[22:40] <Seveas> hah, i was right.
[22:40] <_Tristan> I tried it once, it failed, I tried it a second time, power cut
[22:41] <Seveas> Rovanion, you're not in the 'audio' group
[22:41] <Seveas> so you're not allowed to access audio devices.
[22:41] <cba123> I have a flashdrive that was booting ubuntu just fine.  For some reason now it's just saying "Boot Error".  I've remade the USB Boot drive with both usb-creater-gtk, and unetbootin and it's the same thing.  It boots on another machine though, so I'm not sure what the issue could be.  Any advice?
[22:41] <Rovanion> Seveas: Yeah, that's right. adduser -g audio ?
[22:42] <Seveas> You can fix that with the users & groups tool or on the command line with: gpasswd -a rov audio'
[22:42] <genii-around> Rovanion: Put -a for append or "audio" will be the ONLY group you're in
[22:42] <Rovanion> genii-around: Sweet, thanks!
[22:42] <Seveas> genii-around, that's why I always use gpasswd for this :)
[22:42] <kantlivelong> is there a macbook channel?
[22:43] <W0rmDrink> hi
[22:44] <W0rmDrink> when I ssh into ubuntu I get a message - how do I disable this
[22:44] <Seveas> W0rmDrink, sudo rm /etc/motd
[22:44] <Rovanion> _Tristan: I have no idea what your specific issue is, I'm just telling you what I would do in your situation.
[22:44] <W0rmDrink> Seveas, does something update that file ?
[22:45] <Seveas> W0rmDrink, hmmyes, on a default ubuntu install that's now done
[22:45] <zykotick9> W0rmDrink: don't remove motd!  "PrintMotd no" in /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
[22:45] <roasted> zykotick9: if you're curious, check out post #545 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/550625
[22:45] <Seveas> I don't remember what does it though as that's one of the first things I kill
[22:46] <W0rmDrink> zykotick9, it is set as no
[22:46] <sckauter> Error moving file: Permission denied --> im trying to copy and past a blacklist file to etc/modprob.d
[22:46] <sckauter> any help pls?
[22:46] <Rovanion> Seveas: Do I have to log in and out in order for the change to take effect? gpasswd exits successfully telling me that the user rov has been added to the group audio. But when I run id again it doesn't list me and alsamixer won't start.
[22:46] <zykotick9> roasted: that sucks man :(
[22:46] <roasted> zykotick9: 545 looks good though
[22:47] <roasted> zykotick9: it looks like support was there, and ubuntu broke it. other distros reported no issue, mint included.
[22:47] <roasted> zykotick9: but it looks like support is coming back with kernel 3.3 and 12.04 to boot.
[22:47] <roasted> zykotick9: let's hope anyway, or else I'll be reselling this puppy on ebay
[22:48] <zykotick9> roasted: hopefully that won't be required ;)
[22:48] <Seveas> Rovanion, yes
[22:48] <roasted> zykotick9: with, of course, a phone call to alps to put some pressure on their "engineers" :P
[22:48] <zykotick9> W0rmDrink: is it the motd that is being shown or something else?
[22:49] <W0rmDrink> zykotick9, its motd and then some things which are not in there
[22:49] <zykotick9> W0rmDrink: do you have a Banner line in sshd_config?
[22:49] <W0rmDrink> zykotick9, no
[22:49] <zykotick9> W0rmDrink: also PrintLastLog is taht on/off?
[22:50] <W0rmDrink> nope
[22:50] <W0rmDrink> let me try that
[22:50] <zykotick9> W0rmDrink: that's just the last login line
[22:50] <W0rmDrink> no but there is stuff like Ubuntu comes with no warranty etc
[22:51] <sckauter> Error moving file: Permission denied --> im trying to copy and past a blacklist file to etc/modprob.d
[22:51] <sckauter> any help pls?
[22:52] <babble> sckauter: are you editing blacklist.conf as root?
[22:52] <W0rmDrink> > ~/.hushlogin worked
[22:52] <zykotick9> W0rmDrink: lol i was just reading http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/546 i've never heard of .hushlogin before - neat.
[22:56] <gadien> is there a bot i can ask for what is?
[22:57] <RDMonkey> thats a nice quit message
[22:58] <i7c> Monkeys among each other
[22:58] <RDMonkey> :P
[23:00] <tdlam> @DasEi: just wanted to give an update...my samba issue was a firewall permission rule that I didnt know I had to do...it works ok now thanks for your help
[23:00] <tdlam> and evryone else that helped too :)
[23:03] <Dayofswords> anyone know how big the ubuntu repos are? as in how much space would it take to mirror them?
[23:03] <born2troll> guys i installed a program with make install and now i am not able to remove it
[23:04] <babble> born2troll: did you keep the source package?
[23:04] <Tasmania> Do I need a vps to install files in Ubuntu?
[23:04] <babble> if you did, cd into it and do make uninstall
[23:04] <born2troll> babble, i think but it ends in an error
[23:05] <i7c> Tasmania: vps?
[23:07] <yeats> Dayofswords: it depends on how many releases you'd be mirroring, but I administer a mirror with 10.04, 11.10, and 12.04 and it's about 243 GB
[23:07] <yeats> Dayofswords: you can not mirror sources and get away with much less
[23:09] <Kircle> Anyone know how I can fix my compiz crashing issue? Here's a log of compiz doing just that http://pastebin.com/sK65v4Fi
[23:11] <AcidRain2012> how do i execute a terminal command then exit before command output is diaplayed?
[23:11] <AcidRain2012> displayed*
[23:12] <yeats> AcidRain2012: '<command> &' will run whatever <command> is in the background
[23:12] <AcidRain2012> yeats: well my issue is this: i want to execute a shell command using php. turns out the command im executing starts a server and output is continuously being sent. will this trick still work?
[23:13] <sckauter> ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[23:13] <sckauter>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[23:13] <sckauter>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[23:13] <sckauter>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[23:13] <FloodBot1> sckauter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:13] <itaylor57> AcidRain2012, command > myfile.txt 2>&1 &  will put output to file and background
[23:13] <sckauter> Sorry sorry
[23:13] <itaylor57> AcidRain2012, command > /dev/null 2>&1 &  will put output to file and background
[23:13] <sckauter> how can i turn off Xserver? ubuntu 10.04
[23:14] <yeats> sckauter: 'sudo service gdm stop'
[23:14] <yeats> probably the easiest way
[23:14] <sckauter> cool, thank you yeats
[23:15] <AcidRain2012> itaylor57: appears to still not work. it just looks like the page is still trying to "refresh" and it stops further execution
[23:15] <AcidRain2012> any other ideas?
[23:15] <itaylor57> AcidRain2012, sounds like something you would want to start with a startup script
[23:15] <itaylor57> what is it you are trying to run?
[23:15] <AcidRain2012> hmmm... you mean have php run a perl script that runs the server?
[23:15] <AcidRain2012> im trying to start icecast via php
[23:15] <AcidRain2012> it works... it just wont let me know that it has worked
[23:16] <AcidRain2012> and the php output is very important
[23:16] <Kircle> Guys when I run the 'gtk window decorator' command I get an errormsg saying "unable to locate theme engine 'pixmap' segfault"
[23:16] <LazyTown> How can I get the stupid launcher bar to hide itself when I focus on an app?
[23:17] <LazyTown> This thing is driving me crazy
[23:17] <gensymv> heyho is there an easy way of getting skype to run in precise? i did an upgrade today which removed the ia32-libs package (apparently skype depends on this). any ideas?
[23:18] <roasted> Anybody using an Alps touchpad with Ubuntu? I've read about some users having issues yet others with success. Curious if anybody else is having headaches with it.
[23:18] <magicJ> If I power on the modem and then the computer all is good - if I re-power the modem/router the computer does not re-connect - wy not
[23:19] <cswank216_> Hello, I need help installing my ubuntu when im in the installer it works fine but when i reboot after  install it says "VIDEO FORMAT NOT SUPPORTED" and my monitor goes to stand by any suggestions
[23:21] <cswank216_> ANY HELP?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[23:21] <gensymv> cswank216 that's rude dude.
[23:21] <skel> cswank216_: really, your limitation of patience is 2 minutes?
[23:21] <pangolin> cswank216_, really? you think that is going to get you help?
[23:21] <BathOryx> cswank216_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[23:21] <soreau> cswank216_: excessive punctuation is not necessary
[23:21] <Kircle> lol explosion of tsk tsk
[23:21] <Multbrelch> :)
[23:22] <cswank216_> well it looks like it works alot better
[23:22] <Multbrelch> your screen?
[23:22] <pangolin> !guidelines > cswank216_
[23:22] <cswank216_> how?
[23:22] <skel> Kircle: if you pre-tense the gtk tool with strace does it give you any idea what specific file it can't find? (fyi, it'll be *very*  verbose output, you'll need a pager like more)
[23:23] <BobMarley> hi
[23:23] <BobMarley> somebody know how do i enable to xchat history?
[23:23] <cswank216_> ubottu how do i read your private message?
[23:23] <BobMarley> i found this:
[23:23] <BobMarley> http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=3794
[23:23] <cswank216_> o lol sorry
[23:23] <roasted> Anybody using an Alps touchpad with Ubuntu? I've read about some users having issues yet others with success. Curious if anybody else is having headaches with it.
[23:23] <BobMarley> and perhaps i need to put ::     /set text_replay on
[23:23] <Kircle> skel never used strace before looks a tad complicated.
[23:23] <BobMarley> but where that is done=
[23:24] <BobMarley> ?
[23:24] <soreau> ! enter | BobMarley
[23:24] <pangolin> BobMarley, you want to check the settings for Load Scrollback
[23:24] <BathOryx> roasted: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[23:24] <cswank216_> So no help?
[23:24] <skel> Kircle: don't be scared by it, its just showing you every operation its running at a system level. it should show you reads / writes and will show you which file it's looking for
[23:24] <BathOryx> cswank216_: Ahem..
[23:25] <pangolin> BobMarley, actually it is "Display scrollback from previous session"
[23:25] <roasted> BathOryx: uh. what?
[23:25] <roasted> BathOryx: wrong person?
[23:25] <cswank216_> ?
[23:25] <skel> Kircle: or most of the time will lead you to the first of whatever missing components it needs
[23:25] <BathOryx> roasted: What are you trying to do in Ubuntu on Alps touchpad?
[23:26] <BobMarley>  somebody know how do i enable to xchat history?
[23:26] <BobMarley>  i found this:
[23:26] <BobMarley>  http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=3794
[23:26] <BobMarley> and perhaps i need to put ::     /set text_replay on
[23:26] <BobMarley> but where that is done?
[23:26] <FloodBot1> BobMarley: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:26] <roasted> BathOryx: I'm asking if anybody is having issues with it. I've read some questionable reports about it.
[23:27] <BathOryx> BobMarley: Type in the same input text bar you use to "talk/chat" throuhg.
[23:27] <pangolin> BobMarley, click on Settings > Preferences > Logging and check the box for  "Display scrollback from previous session"
[23:27] <Laiam> settings menu > chatting category > loggin
[23:27] <Laiam> *logging
[23:27] <BathOryx> BobMarley: The /set is actually a chat command. TYPE IT OUT. The forward slash indicates it's a chat command.
[23:28] <BathOryx> It must literally be the first thing you type or the command will not work.
[23:29] <BobMarley> so in which folder i can consult the chat history?
[23:29] <pangolin> ~/.xchat2
[23:29] <pangolin> ~/.xchat2/scrollback
[23:30] <no-name-> does ubuntu have an equivalent to Start > All Programs > Startup ??
[23:30] <BobMarley> what the ~/. command does?
[23:30] <Laiam> yes and no...
[23:30] <i7c> BobMarley:  ~ is your home dir
[23:31] <Laiam> no-name- if your using unity you can add startup commands via the cog wheel at the top right corner
[23:31] <pangolin> BobMarley, in /home/USERNAME/.xchat2/scrollback
[23:31] <no-name-> I'm still on 10.04 with gnome2
[23:31] <i7c> BobMarley: try cd ~/.xchat2/scrollback      in terminal. the . (dot) in front of a folder means it's hidden
[23:31] <BathOryx> BobMarley: ~ is typically /home/yourUserName
[23:32] <no-name-> hmm, I want this command to happen when I log in, not when I boot up though
[23:32] <BobMarley> oh, in ubuntu there are also hidden folder and files?
[23:32] <BobMarley> is there a genneral option to unhide them all?
[23:32] <BathOryx> no-name-: Yes.
[23:32] <i7c> BobMarley: sure. just put a . in front of the folder name and it's not shown
[23:32] <i7c> BobMarley: in the terminal?
[23:33] <BobMarley> yes
[23:33] <i7c> BobMarley: you can see what's in a folder by typing  ls
[23:33] <i7c> BobMarley: if you wanna se hidden files and folders type   ls -a
[23:33] <BobMarley> in windows it is possible by the explorer (nautilus like thing)
[23:33] <BathOryx> no-name-: If you're using Ubuntu 11.10/11.04, push the SUPER BUTTON on your keyboard. (That stupid windows logo key), Click on the UBUNTU LOGO, then type in: startup, and finally, double click on Startup applications.
[23:34] <i7c> BobMarley: in my file manager it works with Ctrl+h. in yours maybe too, not sure.
[23:34] <pangolin> BobMarley, in nautilus hit ctrl-h to hide/unhide
[23:34] <mkultra_> i suggest learning the backend
[23:34] <Multbrelch> pangolin, thx, didnt know that
[23:34] <BathOryx> mkultra_: What's there to really learn?
[23:34] <Multbrelch> cool
[23:35] <mkultra_> apt-get file system stuff
[23:35] <Foggalong> Hello?
[23:35] <mkultra_> hi Foggalong
[23:35] <born2troll> babble, got 1 more questions... are alsa and oss 2 different systems? im going to use alsa and there is a unmet dependency for oss... does it matter?
[23:35] <mkultra_> oss is /dev/dsp stuff
[23:36] <Foggalong> Well, at least I know the program is working.
[23:36] <mkultra_> id go alsa, and avoid oss
[23:36] <BathOryx> BobMarley: In nautilus, push: CTRL + L, to see the current DIRECTORY you're in (I don't like the folder term, :P)
[23:36] <mkultra_> its old
[23:36] <sckauter> guys i really need your help, i just need to figure out my screen resolution, im on 1024x768 instead 1600x900, i reaaly cant i've download the nvidia driver, i've put nuveau in blacklist i«ve turn off x server....i dont knwo what to do....
[23:36] <Laiam> no-name-: System, Preferences, Startup Applications I think
[23:36] <BathOryx> BobMarley: You can type into that bar too.
[23:36] <Guest91787> how do you make 12.04 look like gnome2
[23:37] <born2troll> mkultra_, thats my plan but i was not 100% sure if its the one or the other...
[23:37] <BathOryx> !classic > Guest91787
[23:37] <mkultra_> i use xfce, its gnomey sort of
[23:37] <mkultra_> lighter
[23:37] <BathOryx> !not-unity > Guest91787
[23:38] <Guest91787> BathOryx, you change it @ the log in?
[23:38] <daniellog> Hey, could any of you guys help me with a ubuntu server install?
[23:38] <mkultra_> hello
[23:38] <skel> daniellog: whats the trouble?
[23:38] <mkultra_> enable ssh and build it remotely from a gui machine
[23:39] <BathOryx> Guest91787: You can also just try something like this: http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/   Has the interface that looks like gnome2. And beautify, you can easily install that on Ubuntu. (see downloads page)
[23:39] <daniellog> I have a system setup with a stripped software raid, when I get to installing grup I get the error "executing 'grub-install /dev/mapper' failed"
[23:39] <bjrohan> I have an issue, and I am trying to report it via approot-bug however after I check mark the appropriate button on the first screen and hit next, nothing happens. Ultimately, when I start into 3D mode (unity) I see the desktop, but receive an error message "system Tray not detected"
[23:39] <BathOryx> Guest91787: Did you got the PM?
[23:39] <Laiam> !notunity > Guest91787
[23:39] <daniellog> I'm installing it through usb rather than cd
[23:40] <Guest91787> BathOryx,  i saw thankh
[23:41] <mkultra_> id install boot to another usb stick....
[23:41] <skel> daniellog: are you installing it to the mbr or did you specify another location?
[23:41] <mkultra_> make it something that can be easily mirrored and redundantly generated
[23:41] <sacarlson> daniellog: can you provide us with a link to what you used as a reference when you did your install?
[23:41] <skel> daniellog: by default I think it tries to use /dev/sda if you do custom partitioning
[23:42] <thiebaude> how do i make the terminal transparent?
[23:42] <mkultra_> i use compiz for transparency
[23:42] <daniellog> as far as I know mbr, I'm not sure of the mounts for raid in linux, before I've alwaysed used dev/sda etc, but the install point to /dev/mapper by default?
[23:42] <Foggalong> Can anyone help me with why XChat won't connect to #YourPants IRC channel
[23:42] <thiebaude> mkultra_, ahh ok
[23:42] <AMIGAS> how do i changed the wallpaper?
[23:42] <daniellog> I'm not using a reference, just going through it by myself
[23:43] <skel> daniellog: you can try to do it by default before rebooting: sudo mount /dev/mapper/*your-raid-part* /mnt
[23:43] <mkultra_> id make a /boot partition and point the mount at it
[23:43] <mkultra_> at the usb stick
[23:43] <skel> daniellog: and then do: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/mapper/*raid-drive*
[23:43] <mkultra_> even a 512 can handle kernels
[23:44] <daniellog> so quit to the shell then run those commands?
[23:44] <mkultra_> but it requires usb booting support
[23:44] <myhero> i want to setup a dual boot system ubuntu with windows 7 so what to install 1st ubuntu or windows 7 ??
[23:44] <Laiam> how is it that kde has a better power manager than unity?
[23:44] <AMIGAS> foggalong: it works just fine
[23:44] <mkultra_> install windows first, and leave enough for linux
[23:44] <myhero> means...
[23:44] <Guest91787> myhero i always install win first
[23:45] <myhero> in the 1st partition windows 7 or ubuntu ?
[23:45] <skel> daniellog: yeah after install completes (minus failing bootloader install) just open a terminal and do those
[23:45] <myhero> ok
[23:45] <skel> daniellog: you don't have to quit the gui
[23:45] <mkultra_> 1st partition is windows
[23:45] <myhero> if i install ubuntu 1st then any problems ?
[23:45] <mkultra_> yeah
[23:45] <Laiam> myhero: if win first then you will need to reinstall the grub bootloader
[23:45] <daniellog> sorry if this seems a bit of a stupid question but how do I find the raid part out?
[23:45] <skel> myhero: usually windows likes to be the first OS and doesn't work well otherwise, I don't know if thats changed. Haven't dual-booted since XP
[23:46] <Guest91787> if you install ubuntu first you can use easy bds or bsd
[23:46] <myhero> ok
[23:46] <myhero> thnx..
[23:46] <mkultra_> df
[23:46] <myhero> quit
[23:46] <skel> daniellog: did you use the custom partition wizard in the install process? It shows you the device name
[23:46] <BathOryx> myhero: If you do not want problems. Windows first, then Ubuntu. If Windows were to get installed last, then it would try to overwrite boot records and etc.
[23:46] <Laiam> win 7 can deal with being a second partition since it wont have an mbr after grub kills it
[23:46] <Neon_Sloth> can anyone answer a question for me real quick?
[23:46] <BathOryx> Ubuntu just handles things in a smart and more considerate manner.
[23:47] <Neon_Sloth> How would i voice myself. (Not on this channel)
[23:47] <BathOryx> Neon_Sloth: /msg chanserv voice #channel you.
[23:47] <daniellog> no I just used the automatic, its came up withs some werid nvidia name, something like nvidia_q3c...etc , I'm guessing the raid controller is an nvidia one
[23:47] <Neon_Sloth> if it wasnt my channel?
[23:47] <sacarlson> daniellog: the disk utility should show the status and allow you to mount and umount raids,  did you use the alternate disk for your system install?
[23:48] <mkultra_> id have the hardware control the raid
[23:48] <BathOryx> Neon_Sloth: You must have enough channel access privledge to perform such a command. Try it.
[23:48] <Neon_Sloth> BathOryx: even if it wasnt my channel?
[23:48] <Neon_Sloth> kk
[23:48] <mkultra_> id prefer hardware raid over soft raid
[23:48] <skel> daniellog: hmm ok I'm not as familiar with raid setups, I rarely use them =/ Anyone else know how daniellog can find out what the raid device name is within the installer?
[23:49] <daniellog> Yeah I'm limited with resources, and alternative disk?
[23:49] <Neon_Sloth> it worked, thanks BathOryx
[23:50] <sacarlson> daniellog: here's a reference to posibly get you started,  there are many other raid docs depending on what mode you want to use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[23:50] <daniellog> if no one knows I can just set it back to IDE mode and not bother with raid, if software raid is useless
[23:50] <viktor> i messed up my GUI by loading an vector-based .snv file as wallpaper. i might be able to fix this by changing the wallpaper from terminal/console. can anybody tell me where to do this?
[23:50] <c11hbl> hej
[23:50] <viktor> which directory config file to edit?
[23:50] <daniellog> @sacarlson thanks
[23:50] <skel> viktor: what window manager?
[23:51] <stercor> How do I get rid of 'W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/www.bashterritory.com_pytube_releases_en  Encountered a section with no Package: header?'
[23:51] <viktor> skel, right, gnome2, oneiric ocelot
[23:51] <mkultra_> soft raid works but i wouldnt want it
[23:51] <mkultra_> you get best performance when your utilizing hardware
[23:51] <SubstreamAI> Nebbie, I'm nubbie
[23:52] <skel> viktor: try gconftool-2 -t string -s /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename <path_to_image>
[23:52] <_Tristan> Hi. I'm looking for a small cheap usb wifi dongle that will work in oneiric. Anybody have suggestions?
[23:52] <daniellog> Thanks guys, I'll try again tomorrow
[23:52] <mkultra_> i got one a few days ago
[23:52] <Jordan_U> daniellog: skel: Unless this is FakeRAID, you don't want to (it makes no sense to) install grub's boot sector to the raid device. So you should not pass any /dev/mapper/ device to grub-install.
[23:53] <mkultra_> wait no i didnt lol
[23:53] <daniellog> @Jordan_u where should I install grub too then?
[23:54] <mkultra_> Netgear 	WG111 V1 should work
[23:54] <Jordan_U> daniellog: The MBRs of the member drives.
[23:55] <daniellog> would they be in /dev/ ?
[23:55] <_Tristan> I was hoping for something cheaper
[23:55] <viktor> skel, i get this back from terminal: "No value to set for key: `/desktop/gnome/background/Pictures/alison_carroll_1.jpg'
[23:55] <viktor> "
[23:55] <Jordan_U> daniellog: Most likely that would be /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.
[23:55] <daniellog> I've tried, but I still get the fatal error
[23:56] <daniellog> It must be something to do with this nvida raid it does not like
[23:56] <Jordan_U> daniellog:  What is the exact error message?
[23:56] <z1ll4> .
[23:56] <viktor> skel, by "picture_filename", i was meant to put a new one to replace the old one right?
[23:56] <z1ll4> o u dont need to register to speak in here? :0
[23:56] <daniellog> orginnally "executing 'grub-install /dev/mapper' failed"
[23:56] <BathOryx> daniellog: /dev/ is short for: devices, or device. IIRC.
[23:56] <daniellog> I'll try with the sda and sdb now
[23:57] <daniellog> yeah I know
[23:57] <Jordan_U> daniellog:  If it's "nvidia raid" that _is_ FakeRAID.
[23:57] <skel> viktor: yeah thats a second parameter, so after the background/Pictures then do /path/to/alison_blah.jpg
[23:57] <daniellog> would I be able to use that raid or shall I not bother?
[23:57] <cdj> HUD is the best thing ever.
[23:58] <Jordan_U> daniellog: In which case what I said earlier does not apply.
[23:58] <mkultra_> id setup a raid partition, and a separate drive for a boot partition
[23:58] <mkultra_> a usb stick
[23:58] <mkultra_> something easy to mirror
[23:58] <urbancommando> if its fake raid why bother? it's not going to be any faster.. right?
[23:58] <xixor> Yo, does anyone happen to have a System76 laptop?  Do you like it? Just looking for feedback on the feel of the machine, build quality, etc
[23:59] <daniellog> Hmmm yeah, not the best setup though, might be just easier to not bother raiding
[23:59] <wylde> !ot | xixor
[23:59] <Jordan_U> daniellog: You should be able to, but using Linux software RAID will be faster, easier, and better supported.