[00:00] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, not, it will be kept
[00:00] <TheCheeze> it'
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: no, you can still install it
[00:00] <TheCheeze> s not intel.. it's broadcom i think
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> !info pidgin karmic
[00:00] <arand> habanany: firefox-3.7 -safe-mode
[00:00] <TheCheeze> Hp Pavilion dv2000 series laptop
[00:00] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: what if I didn't have it?
[00:00] <tanath> which is good. empathy is not up to par yet.
[00:00] <mattwj2002> is #ubuntu+1 closed?
[00:00] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: ^^
[00:00] <LjL> yessssssss
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[00:00] <MenZa> mattwj2002: Yes.
[00:00] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, then you will not get it unless you chose to install it
[00:00] <RenatoSilva> LjL: hi
[00:00] <mattwj2002> why?
[00:00] <tanath> mattwj2002, 'cause there is no ubuntu+1 anymore
[00:00] <tanath> mattwj2002, it's released now
[00:01] <mattwj2002> shouldn't it cover 10.04?
[00:01] <miromanyth> TheCheeze: I'm afraid I don't know about that. Hopefully someone else can help. If not, search the forums! They always seem to work for me, eventually anyway.
[00:01] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: but pidgin came installed, why not the new client?
[00:01] <tanath> mattwj2002, doesn't exist yet
[00:01] <mattwj2002> oh okay
[00:01] <fxhp> 9.04
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> mattwj2002: lucid is in hugely early stages
[00:01] <lircdbugr> joaopinto: via Passwords and Encryption keys?
[00:01] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, pidgin does not get installed by default on karmic
[00:01] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: ubuntu always came with some IM installed, why not this time
[00:01] <arand> mattwj2002: it opens ub on the 5th when the toolchain is uploaded
[00:01] <joaopinto> lircdbugr, yes
[00:01] <Chriz1> is 9.10 lts?
[00:01] <fxhp> 9.10
[00:01] <dksoba88> quick question... if I type 'ls *.vis' it'll show all .vis files... How would I get a listing of all not *.vis files?
[00:01] <ubuntu__1> !session
[00:01] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, it does come with empathy
[00:01] <fxhp> No
[00:01] <mattwj2002> sounds good
[00:01] <fxhp> 8.4
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Chriz1: no 10.04 is the next lts
[00:01] <mattwj2002> I am dieing for Gnome 3!
[00:01] <mattwj2002> :D
[00:02] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: who said pidgin get installed by default in karmic?
[00:02] <mattwj2002> 9.10 is awesome though I just installed it
[00:02] <mattwj2002> and I love it
[00:02] <mattwj2002> great work
[00:02] <mattwj2002> :D
[00:02] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, grrr, <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: but pidgin came installed, why not the new client?
[00:02] <FloodBot1> mattwj2002: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:02] <Chriz1> cool, 8.10 will be support till 2012 right?
[00:02] <conb123> tanath: Ahhh maybe it was because my usb stick didn't have a boot flag. gparted just added one, do you think that was it?
[00:02] <tanath> conb123, quite possibly
[00:02] <Alan> Bah, what is the point of a verification utility that can't detect when the disk is broken? :(
[00:02] <arand> mattwj2002: Though that'll probably no be in lucid, I think...
[00:03] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: I AM UPGRADING to 9.10, so you can easily infer I'm talking about < 9.10 ;)
[00:03] <mattwj2002> O_o
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> When will the repos be updated with karmic RC stuffs, or has it already happened?
[00:03] <joaopinto> Chriz1, for servers, yes, not desktops
[00:03] <mattwj2002> I thought it would be
[00:03] <ubuntu__1> ActionParsnip: karmic is out
[00:03] <millertimek1a2m3> i'm having trouble with eclipse. see details here
[00:03] <millertimek1a2m3> http://pastebin.com/m31b89e2e
[00:03] <Chriz1> joaopinto, what if we used the desktop cd and run it as a server?
[00:03] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, and we already answered you that pidgin will be kept on upgrade :)
[00:03] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: so emphaty comes with 9.10, so I'll get 2 IMs installed in the end of update?
[00:03] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, yes
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__1: i know but are the repos up to date with the rC packages
[00:03] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: aaaah :P
[00:03] <daleharvey> ok, I have a barely surviving fresh install of karma that freezes every few minutes, I have no way to install a new version so I could really do with help to get this one up and running
[00:03] <mattgyver> Anybody currently upgrading, specifically downlading the new packages?
[00:04] <lircdbugr> joaopinto: your reiterating that made me quadruple-check and finally it makes sense: right-clicking the "folder" dropdown allows a blank password.  thanks!
[00:04] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: thanks john
[00:04] <rick__shadey> First time user.  Just installed 9.10 off a USB stick with a nearly flawless install.  You developers ROCK!
[00:04] <lippij> hey, I have a problem.  Gnome is not loading.  GDM loads and I log in and I get a black screen and a mouse pointer and that is it.
[00:04] <coordinador> Somebody can help me?
[00:04] <ubuntu__1> ActionParsnip: they should be updated with the final packages
[00:04] <MenZa> rick__shadey: Enjoy!
[00:04] <coordinador> Hey guys look at this video, this is happening to me when i enter to gnome in ubuntu 9.10:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipD2rQwJpM0
[00:04] <kh_pylon> how can I force ubiquity to use a specific hard drive?  It doesn't detect my drive
[00:04] <Alan> rick__shadey: how did you create your USB installer?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__1: cool, thanks
[00:04] <JediMaster> Hey guys, got 9.10 installed from USB stick, working very nicely, extremely fast too =), lovely fresh install with ext4 =D
[00:04] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: emphaty looks a bit like pidgin, is it the same code base?
[00:04] <ubuntu__1> ActionParsnip: your welcome
[00:04] <Yos> ActionParsnip: I followed each of those steps but it didn't solve the problem
[00:04] <bhearsum> i'm running Ubuntu 9.04 with the Filipino translation - there isn't a filipino 9.10 available yet though - what  happens if i upgrade to karmic? it reverts to english?
[00:04] <Flynsarmy> Short wav files stuff up in karmic. They play super quickly - the pidgin message received sound anyway. every time it plays in pidgin it goes super fast. first time it plays in default media player it does too but after that for the most part its fine
[00:04] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: didn't try it yet, but it seems just a pidgin with voice and video
[00:04] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Nothing like it.
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> JediMaster: ext4 will reduce thelife ofthe USB due to the journal
[00:04] <rick__shadey> It actually didnt work with the default installer off the iso.  I used the second suggestion and that worked perfect...
[00:05] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, not they don't have the same codebasse
[00:05] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: nothing from pidgin? Then it should be good
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> JediMaster: ext2 will prolong its life
[00:05] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Certainly.
[00:05] <JediMaster> ActionParsnip: sorry, I meant I did the install FROM the USB stick to the HDD
[00:05] <dksoba88> coordinador, wow that's odd...
[00:05] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: how about IRC support
[00:05] <Alan> rick__shadey: second suggestion?
[00:05] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: doesn't look like XChat right?
[00:05] <ifeanyi> I got my built-in mic working now
[00:05] <joaopinto> millertimek1a2m3, Eclipse was updated on karmic, just go to Software center and install it
[00:05] <Argos> anyone yet to try ubuntu 9.10
[00:05] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: It has some, but it's very limited.
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: i use carrier, its a fork of pidgin but you can directly ask the devs for functionality
[00:05] <JediMaster> and even so, the live USB stick was damn fast, especially considering it's an old stick
[00:06] <joaopinto> ifeanyi, what have you done ?
[00:06] <VCoolio> hello, I implemented a hack some time ago that when I get "blahblah you need to install package X" terminal also asks "install now?" but I can't find the howto anymore; someone knows the link?
[00:06] <ifeanyi> just recompiled the alsa driver
[00:06] <mattgyver> can you upgrade from the live cd, im getting a really crappy download speed from the servers right now?
[00:06] <GhostWolfy> hi all. i know the new version of ubuntu 9.10 is out today only question i have is if i want to update to that and download it i have to save all my files i have on my hdd right?
[00:06] <gogeta> Argos: been sence beta lol
[00:06] <JediMaster> quick question, the ubuntu site mentions ipod sync with rythmbox, but I can't seem to find any options to do it, am I right in thinking the iphone has to be jailbroken first?
[00:06] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: limited IRC? Hum maybe I will need fudgin still
[00:06] <funkyHat> bhearsum: you will probably find a mixture of filipino and english language
[00:06] <rick__shadey> Alan: Yeah. sorry.  It worked with unetbootin
[00:06] <Alan> rick__shadey: you mean second suggestion on the community wiki? using unetbootin?
[00:06] <ubuntu__1> mattgyver: not that i know of
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> mattgyver: well everyone is upgrading, so it will be slow. think about it
[00:06] <Argos> got a real fast download link ..
[00:06] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: does carrier IM still exist?
[00:06] <Argos> if anyon is interested
[00:06] <Alan> rick__shadey: ooh, awesome - i've just started trying with that :)
[00:06] <MenZa> mattgyver: No - I suggest a clean install, but you can update from the alternate CD. If it's slow, try a torrent.
[00:06] <bigfootbuilt> GhostWolfy: I didnt have to save anything
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: totally
[00:06] <bhearsum> funkyHat: ah
[00:06] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Or, you can use a proper IRC client like XChat, or irssi.
[00:06] <GhostWolfy> bigfootbuilt, what?
[00:07] <mattgyver> ActionParsnip, I know that ;) thats why i wanted to try a live cd
[00:07] <bhearsum> funkyHat: so basically...anything translated will be translated...
[00:07] <gogeta> JediMaster: old ipods can sync itouch and iphone need to be jailbroken for a wifi sync
[00:07] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: I stopped using it when I felt it was a failed fork
[00:07] <Alan> rick__shadey: coulda used you an hour ago :P
[00:07] <Flynsarmy> How do you set the volume level from the terminal in karmic? amixer set 'Master' 75% no longer works
[00:07] <bhearsum> funkyHat: i guess i need to look on launchpad to see how much is translated?
[00:07] <rick__shadey> alan: I'd say good luck, but it was seemless.  Now I just have to learn a whole new OS>  Should be fun though
[00:07] <NoelJB> JediMaster, probably jailbroken and backlevel.  iPhones and iPod Touches are pretty much locked down.
[00:07] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: XChat is -ugly-
[00:07] <MenZa> JediMaster: The keyword is 'iPod' - it will only work with classic iPods.
[00:07] <bigfootbuilt> Ghostwolfy: What are you asking?
[00:07] <MenZa> !iphone > JediMaster
[00:07] <pooky1> hmmmm, there is no Hashes on the UbuntuHashes for Karmic.... ???
[00:07] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Only as ugly as you make it.
[00:07] <Yos> ActionParsnip: Do you have any other ideas about what I can do ?
[00:07] <GhostWolfy> oh save sorry thought you meant say.. so it didn't format your hdd when you updating to 9.10 from the cd?
[00:07] <netbook> Does anyone have this problem? I click on "System" and I don't have icons for Preferences, Advanced, etc. I do have icons for "Places" and "Applications" HELP!
[00:07] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: huh???
[00:07] <funkyHat> bhearsum: yeah, you probably know better than me how to find that though
[00:07] <NoelJB> !alternative
[00:07] <Flynsarmy> netbook, i have that issue
[00:07] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: You can customise it if you wish. I use irssi myself, but that's all a matter of taste.
[00:08] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: why feel offended? wait I know, you're not
[00:08] <trism> netbook: you can enable the icons again on System/Preferences/Appearance on the Interface tab
[00:08] <bhearsum> funkyHat: ok - thanks!
[00:08] <JediMaster> fair enough, I've got a 3GS begging to be jailbroken, I'll have to blow the dust off my 24" imac I never use to jailbreak it ;-)
[00:08] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Not at all :)
[00:08] <Argos> wow got it in 15 minutes.
[00:08] <NoelJB> does anyone know off-hand if the alternative install will let you install GRUB1 on a clean install?
[00:08] <netbook> Thank you trism
[00:08] <bigfootbuilt> Ghostwolfy: If you are asking if you have to back up anything, I didn't have to. But I used the update manager to upgrade
[00:08] <JediMaster> Argos, why Argos?
[00:08] <jeremi> hello
[00:08] <netbook> exit
[00:08] <netbook> ;P
[00:08] <NoelJB> I'm in the process of downloading to look, but it will be a while (couple of hours at the current rate).
[00:08] <Argos> dowloadied it in 15 minutes ubuntu
[00:08] <GhostWolfy> bigfootbuilt, ok but if i was to do it from the live cd i would have to right?
[00:08] <JediMaster> Argos, anything to do with the british chain store?
[00:08] <funkyHat> Argos: torrent?
[00:09] <Argos> no..lol
[00:09] <JediMaster> Argos: www.argos.co.uk =)
[00:09] <Argos> no..lol
[00:09] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: it uses the same old-fashioned of aMSN iirc
[00:09] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: No... it doesn't.
[00:09] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: I really wonder wtf is that ugly ui in aMSN
[00:09] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: not GTK certaintly
[00:09] <bigfootbuilt> Ghostwolfy: I'm sorry, I haven't tried live CD
[00:10] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: It is.
[00:10] <GhostWolfy> bigfootbuilt, its ok just asking thats all
[00:10] <gogeta> pidgin forever
[00:10] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: why is aMSN so ugly then, and looking so different from the whole system ui?
[00:10] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: http://video.linux-noob.com/screenshots/ubuntu/7.04/post-1-1178099902.png <- It should look like that.
[00:10] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else experiencing audio issues on pidgin message received sound?
[00:10] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Oh, aMSN is still not GTK. I thought you meant xchat.
[00:10] <NoelJB> netbook, Flynsarmy -- it is not a bug, it is a new feature.  There is an LP item on it related to the decision.
[00:10] <gogeta> nope
[00:10] <daleharvey> I have a working install that im scared to go out of the shell because it keeps on freezing, does anyone have any ideas about how I can recover it?
[00:10] <GhostWolfy> bigfootbuilt, i was thinkin i would have to save my files i have which is alot if i was going to do it through live cd
[00:10] <localnnuser__> how can i add windows and ubuntu installers into the same pendrive? is it posible to modify grub to boot both os installations?
[00:10] <Ergo^> hello
[00:11] <NoelJB> netbook, Flynsarmy -- you can turn the icons back on, if you wish.
[00:11] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: no, aMSN. What ui then, do you know?
[00:11] <Chronon> I downloaded Kubuntu 9.10 via BitTorrent and verified md4sums.  I burned to CD and it lets me select language, but any selection besides "boot from first hard drive" results in a blinking cursor in the upper left corner.  Trying to install AMD64-desktop-kubuntu
[00:11] <Argos> thx jedi didnt even know that place existed lol
[00:11] <Ramunas> any of you could recommend a decent php editor?
[00:11] <Ergo^> where do i seek help after my dist-update on server ? it doesnt seem to boot up or something
[00:11] <olhado> hey
[00:11] <gogeta> localnnuser__: just make the partations and ubuntu will do the rest
[00:11] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: http://video.linux-noob.com/screenshots/ubuntu/7.04/post-1-1178099902.png ----> UGLY
[00:11] <dksoba88> quick question... if I type 'ls *.vis' it'll show all .vis files... How would I get a listing of all not *.vis files?
[00:11] <erUSUL> Ergo^: here oor maybe over in #ubuntu-server
[00:11] <olhado> question: how can i get wireless going on ubuntu? i have a linksys wireless adapter
[00:11] <olhado> i imagine it needs drivers
[00:12] <bigfootbuilt> Ghostwolfy: I am still kind of new and not sure what live cd is lol. But when I updated from the manager, it went flawlessly and lost nothing
[00:12] <Flynsarmy> Ramunas, komodo has intellitext or calltips or whatever you call them and is free
[00:12] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Not at all. But this is straying offtopic :)
[00:12] <NoelJB> olhado, yes, it would need drivers.  and generally recognizes any hardware it can use.
[00:12] <bruno123> hey what is a program to trace my route to a certain ip address?  I used to have...but cant remember the name to install it
[00:12] <funkyHat> Come onnnnnnn steam :(
[00:12] <GhostWolfy> bigfootbuilt, live cd is when you download ubuntu from the cd and burn it on a cd
[00:12] <mattgyver> !torrents
[00:12] <olhado> noel, where can i find those?
[00:12] <NoelJB> bruno123, tracepath
[00:12] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: not at all in YOUR opinion. Opinions still exist you know
[00:12] <bruno123> thanks NoelJB
[00:12] <coordinador> dksoba88, and i didnt uploaded that video, i just found because happened to other people
[00:13] <Ramunas> bruno123: system>administration>network tools
[00:13] <gogeta> tracerought
[00:13] <erUSUL> dksoba88: find . ! -name '*.vis' -print
[00:13] <dksoba88> coordinador, so you're saying it's not all that uncommon?
[00:13] <Chronon> ubottu: talking to me?
[00:13] <dksoba88> erUSUL, I'll give that a shot
[00:13] <NoelJB> olhado, not a clue.  I take it that it isn't being recognized when you insert the device?
[00:13] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: about aMSN, do you know what ui it is?
[00:13] <bigfootbuilt> Anyone else know if you have to backup your files if you upgrade with live cd?
[00:13] <dksoba88> erUSUL, thanks
[00:13] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[00:13] <jdahm> Is there keyserver.ubuntu.com not working properly, I can't seem to get a key
[00:13] <Flynsarmy> Does anyone here have pidgin installed and the message received sound turned on and have it playing correctly - ie not faster than it should?
[00:13] <NoelJB> olhado, I'd also monitor udev to see what it thinks/sees as the hardware is processed.
[00:13] <Tetracomm> How do I configure a switch or router in Ubuntu?
[00:13] <erUSUL> jdahm: use the mit keyserver
[00:13] <olhado> ok
[00:14] <jdahm> erUSUL: address?
[00:14] <cepfpg264> hi
[00:14] <Penol> jdahm: it uses some time.
[00:14] <olhado> ok
[00:14] <gogeta> Flynsarmy: i think the sound theme changed
[00:14] <pooky1> Tetracomm try type in ur DNS (192.168.0.x) in web browser
[00:14] <zealiod> how can i i have 3 vlans configured on my ubuntu server - is it possible to get dhcp3 to issue ip addresses to all agents connecting on those vlans? efforts so far, seem no
[00:14] <olhado> what's ndiswrapper?
[00:14] <llua> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304744
[00:14] <llua> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304744
[00:14] <llua> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304744
[00:14] <bruno123> Ramunas NoelJB Im talking about a program that shows a globe and north america and how you connect to a server etc
[00:14] <FloodBot1> llua: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:14] <oldjingleballics> Tetracomm, same as in Windows... Use Firefox
[00:14] <Flynsarmy> gogeta, Nah, it's a wav issue i have. i copied the sound from my xp machine onto ubuntu. first time i play it in the default media player it stuffs up too. seems to work fine for the most part after that
[00:14] <bigfootbuilt> Tetracomm: It could also be <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:14] <tanath> anyone having issues with compiz blacking out the desktop?
[00:14] <gogeta> Flynsarmy: both the im clents in 9.10 use the same sound theme
[00:14] <erUSUL> jdahm: google ;) → pgpkeys.mit.edu
[00:15] <bigfootbuilt> <IP_ADDRESS> i mean
[00:15] <Chronon> Any ideas about non-booting 64-bit-desktop LiveCD?
[00:15] <cepfpg264> please does somebody know how to configure samba in ubuntu 9.10
[00:15] <daleharvey> this just sucks
[00:15] <cepfpg264> please...
[00:15] <coordinador> dksoba88, i just did a quick search in google and found that youtube vid with my case, is the same videocard if should be important...
[00:15] <RenatoSilva> epiphany is not in ubuntu karmic ?????
[00:15] <pooky1> cepfpg264 i wish.... gimme some feedback if u get...
[00:15] <tanath> Tetracomm, it depends on the router
[00:15] <erUSUL> !find epiphany
[00:15] <Tetracomm> Ok.
[00:15] <NoelJB> bruno123, Oh!  Not a clue.  Something could building on geoip, I suppose.
[00:15] <Alan> Well this is interesting...
[00:15] <oldjingleballics> Tetracomm, use ifconfig to find the gateway ip #
[00:15] <Tetracomm> It is asking for a password.
[00:15] <Tetracomm> Thank you.
[00:15] <lstarnes> !info epiphany karmic | RenatoSilva
[00:15] <Alan> no icons for System menus....
[00:16] <tanath> Tetracomm, consult manual?
[00:16] <lstarnes> Tetracomm: or use route -n
[00:16] <Tetracomm> I will get that password.
[00:16] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: bot failed
[00:16] <NoelJB> bruno123, so you want the same output but in a pretty map view instead of raw text?
[00:16] <pooky1> Tetracomm : try admin with no pasword if it is a D-link
[00:16] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: no
[00:16] <Malignus> Anyone else use Xchat-Gnome?
[00:16] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: no
[00:16] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: it just responded
[00:16] <hinchy> my ubuntu install hangs after printing "[    1.864764]  [<c0104007>] kernet
[00:16] <hinchy> _
[00:16] <hinchy> oops
[00:16] <tanath> compiz is blacking out my desktop. anyone know how to fix?
[00:16] <Tetracomm> Linksys.
[00:16] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, client or server?  client should JUST WORK (tm).
[00:16] <lstarnes> Malignus: the regular version of xchat is preferred over xchat-gnome
[00:16] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: so the diff is that now it is optional not default?
[00:16] <cepfpg264> client please
[00:17] <foxray> hi having an issue with karmic UNR on my dell mini 9, I installed it, but no ethernet shows up
[00:17] <pooky1> Tetracomm oki, try default as a password and username....
[00:17] <Malignus> So I've noticed, but I wanted to give it a shot.
[00:17] <cepfpg264> I mean server
[00:17] <daleharvey> can I just set all packages to reinstall?
[00:17] <hinchy> my ubuntu install hangs after printing "[    1.864764]  [<c0104007>] kernel_thread_helper+0x7/0x10"
[00:17] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: it's never been installed by default afaik
[00:17] <Malignus> I was just trying to get a list of online persons to populate.
[00:17] <gogeta> Tetracomm: look for linksys defult password if you have chnage and forgot it you can set it back to defult by holding the reset buttion for like a minut
[00:17] <NoelJB> Malignus, I am using xchat (GTK).  The gnome version pretty much sucked last time I looked.
[00:17] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: hum crappy update process then
[00:17] <dioz_mio> how can i make it so that ubuntu wont ask me sudo password everytime??
[00:17] <cepfpg264> the problem isI'm trying to conect a windows machine to my network
[00:17] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: should suggest me a clean install
[00:17] <erUSUL> hinchy: eso es un oops. looks like the karmic kernel does not like your machine
[00:17] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: didn't installed epiphany ever
[00:17] <hinchy> bummer
[00:17] <fxhp> Tetracomm: default password is admin, user is blank
[00:17] <netbook> How can I copy many directory using "cp" but exluding one or two files/directories.
[00:17] <Malignus> Thanks, NoelJB.  :)
[00:18] <erUSUL> hinchy: that is an linux kernel oops. looks like the karmic kernel does not like your machine
[00:18] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: what about the epiphany-browser package?
[00:18] <michaelpalone> foxray: You have no connections at all? have you tried wired?
[00:18] <cepfpg264> but I can see it, but from windows I cannot see ubuntu
[00:18] <Bwyard> how do i mount a harddrive partition
[00:18] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, I've not had to do anything to make SAMBA client work on Ubuntu in ... well, ages.  It just works, and I use it often.
[00:18] <foxray> michaelpalone, its like it doesn't even see the wireless at all
[00:18] <erUSUL> !mount | Bwyard
[00:18] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: should be default in 2 or 3 releases ago, then changed to FF and epiphany wasn't suggested for removing
[00:18] <skorpion> Hi
[00:18] <fxhp> cepfpg264: windows is not very friendly to ext files systems
[00:18] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: what about epiphany-package?
[00:18] <coordinador> WOW NOW i have a very weird problem, in the middle of a session the filesystem converts to readonly :S:S:S:S
[00:18] <hinchy> erUSUL: does that mean I'm out of luck with ubuntu?
[00:18] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, ah, well if you can't see Ubuntu from MS-Windows, that would be needing to configure SAMBA as a server.
[00:18] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: what about the epiphany-browser package?
[00:19] <Yos> This is strange...I'm halfway connected to the internet :(
[00:19] <Chronon> Neither 64-bit Ubuntu nor 64-bit Kubuntu LiveCD will boot on my machine -- Dell XPS 630i with Q6600 (Core 2 quad).  Any ideas?
[00:19] <foxray> michaelpalone, the wireless controller is supposed to show up as a proprietary driver, karmic doesn't even recognize it
[00:19] <sirjoebob> Anyone notice issues with karmic as far as using tab in terminal? ie apt-get ins(press tab) does not want to complete the line ???
[00:19] <cepfpg264> exactly
[00:19] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: I forge
[00:19] <lstarnes> *forget
[00:19] <erUSUL> hinchy: really dunno; maybe some bios setting help. or a boot option to the kernel.-
[00:19] <erUSUL> !boot | hinchy
[00:19] <cepfpg264> But I dont know how configure it
[00:19] <RenatoSilva> who was talking to me about aMSN fudgin XChat?
[00:19] <S_SubZero> Chronon: Do When you say they won't boot, they are apparently doing something else.  What are they doing?
[00:19] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: forget what
[00:19] <cepfpg264> I'm knew on ubuntu
[00:19] <cepfpg264> I mean new
[00:19] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: never mind
[00:20] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: ok
[00:20] <Tetracomm> Thanks, it works.
[00:20] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, there are a lot of tutorials for it.  I've got a configuration at home for my server, but am not in a position to grab and paste a sanitized version right now/
[00:20] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: I can't think today
[00:20] <erUSUL> coordinador: remount read only == hard drive/filesystem serious error
[00:20] <gogeta> sirjoebob: its nevere tabbed install style works on remove thow
[00:20] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: good to know that update process doesn't uninstall unused apps
[00:20] <Chronon> S_SubZero: Thanks.  It takes me to a black screen with blinking cursor in upper left hand corner.  Boot from first hard drive works correctly
[00:20] <lonchiton> ubuntu 9.04 i have a black screen anyone have an idea to solve my problem
[00:20] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: it makes me think about reinstallking ubuntu completely
[00:20] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[00:20] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: there's really no way for it to easily know what is and is not used
[00:20] <sirjoebob> gogeta, my point is it isn't completing items correctly when pressing tab in terminal. Is this a common issue or something I have messed up or something?
[00:20] <coordinador> erUSUL, but, this happen in the middle of the session, and my drive is a SDHC
[00:20] <cepfpg264> look could somebody send to my e-mail the right configuration???
[00:21] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: just remove the unwanted packages
[00:21] <localnnuser__>  i need to do something i dont know how to start... i need to put windows installer and kubuntu installer on the same pendrive... how can i do this?
[00:21] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: which makes me lazy, because I have some customizations to make it actually pretty to me, like in here: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/981/nicel.png
[00:21] <pooky1> RenatoSilva thats what i do each time it is a x.10 or so
[00:21] <S_SubZero> Chronon: sounds kinda "I can't figure out the MBR"ish.  The LiveCD simply won't start?
[00:21] <fxhp> lstarnes: RenatoSilva: Janitor?
[00:21] <coordinador> bought yesterday and the system was installed today
[00:21] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: what packages? I don't even know how many ubuntu is leaving here
[00:21] <lippij> hey
[00:21] <lippij> does anyone know why GDM/gnome would freeze after i log in?
[00:22] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: but I'm lazy :( my ubuntu is beautiful http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/981/nicel.png
[00:22] <lippij> and just show a black screen with a cursor?
[00:22] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: you can find all installed packages with dpkg -l
[00:22] <lippij> i made another user account and it works
[00:22] <daleharvey> lippij: seems to be happening with quite a lot of people
[00:22] <cepfpg264> let me try with that, but I've seen a lot of tutorials
[00:22] <gOLDfeesh> I get the following issue everytime I update or install something /sbin/ldconfig.real: libraries libtiff.so.4 and libtiff.so.3 in directory /usr/lib have same soname but different type.
[00:22] <pooky1> yeah i understand that
[00:22] <lippij> hm
[00:22] <Chronon> S_SubZero: It gets as far as accepting my language selection and showing the menu.  The only menu item that works properly is "boot from first hard drive".  Boot LiveCD, Check Disk for Errors, Install, etc. all fail
[00:22] <lippij> thanks dale
[00:22] <daleharvey> but I havent got any advice about it
[00:22] <lippij> ok
[00:22] <lippij> well you can pass on that if you useradd another account, it works
[00:22] <pooky1> RenatoSilva : how did u do transparency ???
[00:22] <jhass840> On Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit, I am getting a Network Error when I try to sign on to AIM using empathy's AIM protocol, does anyone know how to fix this?
[00:22] <lippij> temporarily
[00:23] <mandrew> någon svensk här?
[00:23] <Diddleha> Tja
[00:23] <pooky1> RenatoSilva : for taskbar and windows ?
[00:23] <cepfpg264> look, please somebody send me the right conf. my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:23] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: ubuntu updater should say "hey epiphany is not installed by default in this new version, it was replaced by a better browser FF, which will be installed anyway. Would you like to remove Epiphany". IT SHOULD DO THIS for all apps, the same for fudgin / emphaty
[00:23] <daleharvey> lippij: mines happening often before / just after grub
[00:23] <mandrew> tjabab
[00:23] <cepfpg264> be mercy... jajaja
[00:23] <oldjingleballics> anybody use wine-doors on 9.10?
[00:23] <MenZa> !anybody | oldjingleballics
[00:23] <Diddleha> mandrew: Läget ?
[00:23] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: submit a feature request please
[00:23] <S_SubZero> Chronon: hmm.. so the LiveCD kinda starts but then hangs while going to the actual Live OS.  Sounds like it doesn't like some component.
[00:23] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: in the properties, right click it
[00:23] <mandrew> kan du ngt om iphonen
[00:23] <jhass840> I have already triple checked my password and it's not that
[00:23] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, there is no right config for your config that someone could send you/
[00:23] <mandrew> d e lugnt själv?
[00:23] <daleharvey> its happening during install as well
[00:23] <Sorinello> hello. I installed latest ubuntu on a virtual machine. after installing guest operating system package, i get the login screen at a much higher resolution. can someone help me fix that ?
[00:23] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: you're from cannonical?
[00:23] <Diddleha> mandrew: Fint det.
[00:23] <RenatoSilva> s/nn/n
[00:24] <mneptok> !se | mandrew
[00:24] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: no
[00:24] <MenZa> mandrew: For support på svensk kan du bruge #ubuntu-se her er der kun engelsksproget support.
[00:24] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, there are pretty simple general things, and I already gave you the URL, but you need to tune (for example, WHAT are you sharing and to WHOM)?
[00:24] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: but there is http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[00:24] <cepfpg264> ok I got it
[00:24] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: an ubuntu developer then? you just talked like one :)
[00:24] <tanath> compiz is blacking out my desktop, and not displaying icons. anyone know how to fix?
[00:24] <jdahm> anyone else here use pulseaudio and MPD?  I'm getting an error with MPD "Failed to open ALSA device...."
[00:24] <Chronon> S_SubZero: Yeah.  I verified md5sums and also the burn checked out okay.  I was hoping to switch to 64-bit on this cycle, but I guess I'll stick with upgrading to the 32-bit version for now.
[00:24] <daleharvey> S_SubZero: yup, again, same here
[00:24] <erUSUL> jdahm: configure mdp tu use pulseaudio
[00:24] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: I think brainstorms conflicts with LP's blueprints and bug tracker
[00:24] <NoelJB> Sorinello, there is a config file for gdm where you can run xrandr.  I've had to do that in some cases.
[00:24] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: if you have an idea for a new feature for ubuntu, you can submit it to that site that I just listed
[00:24] <cepfpg264> simple, I wanna share a simple folde and my printer
[00:25] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: * brainstorm
[00:25] <dksoba88> I have 3 partitions, if I have ubuntu 9.04 on one, and windows vista on another, I should be okay to install ubuntu 9.10 on the third, right? They're all big enough. Oh yea, there's a 4th partition for swap too
[00:25] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: it is used in conjunction
[00:25] <xendon> hello plp, i've upgreaded to 9.10 now my HDD's are showing 2 times into nautilus ... hey are mounted by my /etc/fstab the other HDD's are unmount because they are all ready mounted by fstab .. .. any idea ?
[00:25] <MK13> ok, so i just moved my /home to a new partition everthing seems to be working but when i ran "chown -R usrname:usrname /home/usrname" the only error it spits out is "/home/usrname/.gvfs': Permission denied"
[00:25] <seme> hi guys
[00:25] <not_recognized> i am new to ubuntu and have a wireless g usb adapter TP-LINK Model: TL-WN422G  (Ver 2.1). the adapter is not recognized. if i do iwconfig my adapter is NOT listed. please, help!
[00:25] <seme> :)
[00:25] <not_recognized> i am running ubuntu 9.04
[00:25] <seme> ubuntu 9.10 rocks
[00:25] <not_recognized> http://pastebin.ca/1648501
[00:25] <seme> :)
[00:25] <cepfpg264> and I wanna  share them to my partner
[00:25] <FloodBot1> seme: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:25] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: I've found that site today, but I still think it conficts with LP
[00:25] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: I'd report a bug in LP
[00:25] <seme> any way to make the downloads of the software faster
[00:25] <seme> for some reason it is taking forever
[00:25] <dksoba88> anyone want to comment on their favorite new feature of 9.10 Karmic Koala?
[00:25] <Chronon> seme: Use bittorrent.  It's much faster
[00:26] <Emery> How would i start etoile via xinit ?
[00:26] <MenZa> dksoba88: Not in here.
[00:26] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: I had the same feeling I have when I see ctrl+c/v'd code
[00:26] <MenZa> dksoba88: Try #ubuntu-release-party
[00:26] <mickster04> can i ask about a bug in karmic here?
[00:26] <dksoba88> MenZa: Cool. Sorry, didn't know. What's this channel primarily for?
[00:26] <mickster04> seeing as its released?
[00:26] <tanath> dksoba88, lack of desktop </sarcasm>
[00:26] <MenZa> dksoba88: It is exclusively for support - and with the release of 9.10, it's even busier than normal :)
[00:26] <pooky1> Chronon: x2, took me less than 10 mins at ~700kbps
[00:26] <judson_> my   ubuntu    upgrade is froze  whats wrong its stuck on    downloadin  file  279   :(
[00:26] <gOLDfeesh> I fixed the ld issue
[00:27] <mandrew> well thanks for thelp ;)
[00:27] <aboucher95> how do you fix a corrupt install of updates. my computer froze while i tried to install updates and had to force reboot my computer. now i cannot try to reinstall them, how do i fix this
[00:27] <dksoba88> MenZa: Thanks. Good to know
[00:27] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Do you like the new 9.10 ?
[00:27] <Daimonic> RxDx: I found somehow the error, most of the commands I wrote to rc.local don't work if I enter them into the shell: Permission denied (with sudo(!)) I need to switch to root with -i, then it works, is there a way to use root for rc.local ?
[00:27] <MenZa> dksoba88: Not a problem :)
[00:27] <Emery> How would i start etoile via xinit ?
[00:27] <seme> no not the iso
[00:27] <RxDx> Diddleha, what?
[00:27] <RenatoSilva> who I was talking to about aMSN pidgin???????
[00:27] <seme> downloading apps after you have installed ubuntu
[00:27] <dksoba88> Diddleha, still installing
[00:27] <seme> it is dirt slow
[00:27] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Me.
[00:27] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, have you tried right clicking on the foldering and selecting Sharing Options?
[00:28] <cepfpg264> already done
[00:28] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I eject a CD from CLI?
[00:28] <cepfpg264> and nothing happens
[00:28] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: eject /dev/cdrom
[00:28] <Lars_G> Hi all.
[00:28] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: I'd like to record a video of my PC, specially the 3d effects, but I don't know how
[00:28] <tanath> Mike_LaMar, 'eject -t'
[00:28] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, OK.
[00:28] <Diddleha> dksoba88: I was going to, but im listening to Jamendo via rhythmbox and didnt want to break the partymode :)
[00:28] <conb123> tanath: damn no luck just keep getting a meesage saying failed to boot press any key to restart
[00:28] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: hi, sorry this channel is so busy
[00:28] <Lars_G> FAQ, is there an easy way to go build->final on karmik?
[00:28] <Gaming4JC> hey all, just installed 9.10 but it's not detecting my webcam. Any suggestions? (I've tested Cheese, CamStream, and some others, no luck says device not found)
[00:29] <MK13> should "/home/usrname/.gvfs': Permission denied" be a concern when trying to get permissions back?
[00:29] <raik> how to upgrade from alternate cd ?
[00:29] <lstarnes> Lars_G: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (the normal package update routine)
[00:29] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/981/nicel.png ---> pidgin sucks, but this is prettier than XChat imo
[00:29] <Flynsarmy> The sounds either plays correctly or doesnt play in pidgin if the messages are close enough together...if theyre too far apart the sound gets screwed up. anyone else experiencing this in karmic?
[00:29] <jrib> MK13: "trying to get permissions back"?
[00:29] <dksoba88> Diddleha, I see. Well...in the eventual future I take it?
[00:29] <Gaming4JC> fyi: it's for a clients computer not my own so I was kinda hoping to resolve it soon. :D
[00:29] <tanath> Mike_lifeguard, 'eject -t' or 'eject -h' for options
[00:29] <jdahm> erUSUL: I still get the error http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/6600/
[00:29] <Lars_G> lstarnes: changing repos? I guess
[00:29] <pooky1> RenatoSilva: i think ive seen a software.... like go see on youtube the guys that make videos in linux... kind of recording device that record part or all ur desktop...
[00:29] <daleharvey> ok, ive managed to boot 2 times in a row now, thats a record
[00:29] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Absolutely!
[00:29] <lstarnes> Lars_G: you don't change repos
[00:29] <tanath> conb123, did you use the usb creator? i find that to be the one that worked for me
[00:29] <oren_> hi
[00:29] <rance> hey
[00:29] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: lazyyyy
[00:29] <Lars_G> lstarnes: Ah they're the same repos using during beta/alpha? thanks
[00:29] <lstarnes> Lars_G: the repos that were used for pre-release builds of karmic are the same as the release ones
[00:29] <conb123> tantath: Yup
[00:30] <MK13> jrib, i just moved my /home to a seperate partition
[00:30] <judson_> is it   normal  for the  karmic install to get  stuck on    file 279  ?
[00:30] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Im thinking tomorrow even ;)
[00:30] <pooky1>  RenatoSilva: ill look at it
[00:30] <jrib> MK13: ok?
[00:30] <aziz> how do I print the full command (including args) of a process?
[00:30] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: no need
[00:30] <diofeher> huhu, i will install ubuntu now
[00:30] <llua> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304744
[00:30] <diofeher> \o/
[00:30] <MK13> jrib, not to mention i can't even see the file when browsing in nautilus
[00:30] <pooky1>  RenatoSilva: as you wish :p
[00:30] <mickster04> if anyone can help me, i always get battery problems with karmic UNR it reports the wrong time left or the battery is broken:/
[00:30] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: don't want to disturb
[00:30] <tanath> conb123, what iso did you use? sure the iso is good?
[00:30] <jrib> MK13: the short answer is yes it is normal as .gvfs is special somehow, but I was trying to understand why you were in that mess anyway
[00:30] <Sorinello> NoelJB: that only fixes the resolution after logging it. my problem is before logging
[00:31]  * Gaming4JC ponders his borked webcam issue...
[00:31] <daleharvey> can I "refresh" the kernel install?
[00:31] <pooky1>  RenatoSilva: not really disturbing... im still figure out how i can manually compare the hashes of my ISO
[00:31] <KurtKraut> I've noticed that on Karmic, notify-osd is showing alerts in a much lower position. This is quit anoying. Is this normal? Here is a sample: http://www.kurtkraut.net/images/isitnormal.gif
[00:31] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: found the transparency option?
[00:31] <tanath> daleharvey, reinstall it?
[00:31] <jrib> daleharvey: can you define "refresh"?
[00:31] <pooky1> i got the original from the website... but transmission dont gimme something good
[00:31] <Lars_G> lstarnes: None updated, so I guess I'm already on final.
[00:31] <Lars_G> meh
[00:31] <sweetandy> daleharvey: You could always compile your own kernel
[00:31] <erUSUL> jdahm: sorry dunno what that means...
[00:31] <conb123> tanath: Only just got it from the karmic torrent today, i think i may have found the soltuion though someone on forums is mentioning issues with my particular stick when booting
[00:31] <Lars_G> Of course I need to report carrying bugs
[00:31] <NoelJB> Sorinello, no, there is a file that is used to establish the login screen.
[00:31] <Lars_G> :)
[00:31] <pooky1>  RenatoSilva: yeah but doesnt really work too good... the icons stay on black background... maybe its my theme...
[00:31] <tanath> conb123, ah
[00:31] <Alan> Does anybody know how ubuntu disambiguates between multiple sources for the same package, i.e. which one to use?  I have a local mirror, and i'm wondering if i NEED to put my local deb lines at the beginning, or if i can instead put them in sources.list.d/local.list ...
[00:31] <MK13> jrib, i just moved my /home to a different partition then i installed 9.10 and mounted the specified the new /home to mount during setup
[00:32] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: check hash of a downloaded file? SOme day I'll find out too
[00:32] <tony> anyone having problems with flash with 64 bit version?
[00:32] <lstarnes> Lars_G: check lsb_release -a
[00:32] <tanath> Alan, tends to prever highest version
[00:32] <arand> tony: what kinds?
[00:32] <jrib> MK13: I don't see why you would have permissions issues though
[00:32] <daleharvey> jrib: something has very obviously gone wrong during the install, my karmic is freezing constantly, I have no way to reinstall it, but I can get an occasional boot working
[00:32] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: it seems your theme, it looks nice here
[00:32] <dksoba88> Diddleha, will you do an upgrade or just reinstall?
[00:32] <sweetandy> Alan: apt's -t option... check out backports
[00:32] <e2> tony, yes
[00:32] <tanath> Alan, you can select a package in synaptic and press ctrl+e to choose a version
[00:32] <pooky1>  RenatoSilva: lol.... if i dont find it soon im gonna f*** off and burn it anyway
[00:32] <Emery> How would i start etoile via xinit ?
[00:32] <tony> can you describe your e2?
[00:32] <daleharvey> so I am trying to think of random ways to recover the broken install
[00:33] <e2> arand, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm
[00:33] <NoelJB> Sorinello, Sorry, not gdm, XDM.  :-)
[00:33] <Pelo> evening folks,
[00:33] <MK13> jrib, me either, which is why i am asking
[00:33] <e2> tony http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm
[00:33] <Gaming4JC> Ah another question... do 9.04 debs work on 9.10? When I upgraded it kept the 9.04 WINE install? o.O
[00:33] <jrib> daleharvey: if you believe the install did not complete successfully then do a fresh install
[00:33] <NoelJB> Sorinello, /etc/xdm/Xsetup
[00:33] <Diddleha> dksoba88: I have upgraded for some versions now, thought id just continue doing that :)
[00:33] <Alan> tanath: i'm on about the same version
[00:33] <jrib> MK13: You asked a different question...
[00:33] <tanath> daleharvey, delay, and keep updating? tends to work for me :P
[00:33] <daleharvey> jrib: I cant do a fresh install, because it never works
[00:33] <Alan> tanath: hence the "mirror"
[00:33] <jrib> MK13: presumably you are attempting to change permissions
[00:33] <arand> e2: what does that have to do with flash issues?
[00:33] <NoelJB> Sorinello, ok, that's not there on karmic ... I'd have to look.
[00:33] <jMCg> Hello happy people.
[00:34] <redtime> how can i downgrade ubuntu karmic to jaunty?
[00:34] <lstarnes> redtime: you can't
[00:34] <erUSUL> !downgrade | redtime
[00:34] <jrib> daleharvey: well I would debug *that*
[00:34] <jMCg> Could someone pastebin me an ldd of /usr/bin/ldapsearch ?
[00:34] <Pelo> there is a feature of Nautilus that I see while upgrading but I can'T figure out how to do it when the install is over , lavender colour text below icons in the nautilus window in icon mode,  size of file and number of files in a folder , anyone know how to turn that on ?
[00:34] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5646/wowvm.png
[00:34] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5646/wowvm.png
[00:34] <NoelJB> Sorinello, which VM ?  VMware or VB?
[00:34] <choronzon> !upgrade
[00:34] <redtime> lstarnes: oh :(
[00:34] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5646/wowvm.png
[00:34] <Sorinello> VMWare
[00:34] <mickster04> daleharvey,  have u tried running without changing then installing from there
[00:34] <tanath> Alan, but it may not use exactly the same version name. try ctrl+e anyway
[00:34] <Sorinello> NoelJB: VMWare
[00:34] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: you can highlight multiple people on one message
[00:34] <Ergo^> is #ubuntu-server open now ?
[00:34] <MK13> jrib, do the permissions not need to be changed? i am just following these instructions
[00:34] <e2> arand plays fine in 32bit with mediabuntu,,, not with 64bit
[00:34] <MK13> !home
[00:34] <redtime> lstarnes: my bcm4312 is not working on karmic :(
[00:34] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: isn't it client stuff?
[00:35] <caleb_> I don't seem to have an driver for my ati card anymore. As I understand, my card is not supported by ATI anymore, but on jaunty, compiz fusion worked fine. Can anyone point me to how I can install this on Karmic?
[00:35] <Alan> tanath: it will - my question is, given 2 servers with the exact same package, version, etc., will it prefer my local mirror over the remote mirror?
[00:35] <Lars_G> lstarnes: 9.10, codename karmic, no lsb modules available
[00:35] <daleharvey> jrib: I get exactly the same problems with installing from a cd / external drive / usb, the install freezes at some arbitrary point in time
[00:35] <aresnick> Hi!  I'm looking to expand my /usr partition--I have a GParted LiveCD, but I was wondering: under what conditions do I lose data?  Can I move partitions around?  Or only expand them?  (I'd like to expand several, and assuming they're contiguous, I would guess that means I need to move several to make room)
[00:35] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: yes, but most clients can see someone's nick in places other than at the beginning
[00:35] <daleharvey> the cd usually very early
[00:35] <e2> arand, sorry... i know tony btw...was the question he was asking
[00:35] <Alan> so far, if i put the deb lines for the local mirror at the beginning, it will
[00:35] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Let me know how it works when done.
[00:35] <jrib> MK13: I don't see anything there about changing permissions unless something goes wrong
[00:35] <Alan> sweetandy: hmm?
[00:35] <Sorinello> NoelJB: but I don;t think that's relevant what VM I am using ...
[00:35] <jrib> daleharvey: did you run "check the cd for defects"?
[00:35] <tanath> Alan, that i don't know
[00:36] <redtime> hm :(
[00:36] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: ok
[00:36] <e2> arand, you are running 64bit?
[00:36] <tanath> Alan, probably whichever is highest in the list of alternates you see when you press ctrl+e
[00:36] <MK13> jrib, it did go wrong, after installing ubuntu all my files in my /home/usrname directory had locks on them
[00:36] <llua> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304744
[00:36] <nick_h> i've been trying to configure the external monitor that's attached to my laptop, but haven't had any luck other than cloning the screen. however, after i ran xrandr, the external monitor extends the desktop, and this persists between reboots.
[00:36] <daleharvey> jrib: the iso md5'd correctly, anything attempting to check the disk dies
[00:36] <madsen> so hows the new ubuntu ?
[00:36] <nick_h> this is great, but i haven't a clue why it works. any hints?
[00:36] <daleharvey> and there is no way all 3 mediums are broken
[00:36] <Alan> tanath: and what if i'm not using synaptic?
[00:36] <jrib> madsen: that shouldn't happen, no
[00:36] <jrib> argh
[00:36] <xtsuname> does anyone know the version of mplayer in ubuntu 9.10?
[00:37] <lstarnes> !info mplayer karmic | xtsuname
[00:37] <Alan> I tend to use aptitude...
[00:37] <jrib> MK13: that shouldn't happen, no
[00:37] <daleharvey> the cd very possibly, but not the external disk drive
[00:37] <Pelo> aresnick, you can do pretty much anything you want but if you move the partition you will have to edit the fstab file to point to the new partition
[00:37] <tanath> Alan, i'm suggesting you use it to answer your question
[00:37] <plitter> does anyone know how to get the shutdown button all the way to the right?
[00:37] <MK13> jrib, what shouldn't happen?
[00:37] <dksoba88> Diddleha, yea np
[00:37] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: hey, I jsut got a list of unsupported packages at least, which includes epiphany and pidgin, they will be suggested for removing after the upgrade process if I don't check universe repo. Better than nothing
[00:37] <pooky1> RenatoSilva: thats nice FX, but beside being eyecandy... or use as alt-tab or screensaver i dont see why sorking on a cube, if it doesnt stay as a cube...
[00:37] <jrib> MK13: locks
[00:37] <mickster04> anyone having battery problems
[00:37] <VCoolio> in karmic, screen in terminal has changed? I have to press enter to pass a messages screen and there is no menu, function keys don't work; what's the new deal?
[00:37] <xtsuname> thx lstarnes
[00:37] <pooky1> but i tried from inside and it was funny !
[00:37] <Pelo> plitter, right click > move
[00:37] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: FX?
[00:37] <MK13> jrib, well it did...
[00:37] <pooky1> RenatoSilva: effetcs*
[00:37] <daleharvey> mickster04: thats basically what I want, a 'fresh' install over this one
[00:37] <Lars_G> mickster04: yeah, my neighbors complain when I play the battery
[00:37] <jrib> MK13: anyway, what exactly have you run since then regarding permissions?
[00:37] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: I think pidgin is still in main
[00:37] <aresnick> Pelo: I just mean something like "move to the 'right' to make room"--I assume the partition would remain the same, no?
[00:37] <tanath> Alan, if all you have is CLI, then try 'apt-cash show packagename' and it'll prolly pick the first one listed
[00:37] <plitter> Pelo: i only get remove and about
[00:38]  * raid0 goodnight all
[00:38] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: doesn't stay as a cube?
[00:38] <arand> Pelo: icon view, increase zoom
[00:38] <arand> Or go to nautilus preferences, display, icon captions, an move the captions up one step (means they'll appear on lower zoom)
[00:38] <trism> VCoolio: that functionality was in screen-profiles which doesn't seem to be install with screen anymore
[00:38] <tanath> Alan, sorry, 'apt-cache...'
[00:38] <Lars_G> I guess this room is right for the transition phase, but should people go to #ubuntu now that it's offitial?
[00:38] <MK13> jrib, terminal, nautilus, firefox
[00:38] <Starcraftmazter> I'm wondering, would hardware raid involve Ubuntu at all, or is it irrelevant to the OS?
[00:38] <Pelo> plitter, move the other stuff out of the way first
[00:38] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: it is listed here
[00:38] <mickster04> Lars_G, ?
[00:38] <Yos> I have my internet up on ubuntu finally but it doesn't show on the network and I cannot browse...please help
[00:38] <Alan> tanath: that still doesn't help - it only shows the available repo sections, not available mirrors...
[00:38] <MK13> jrib so, should i be concerned about the .gvfs since everything else works fine?
[00:38] <jrib> MK13: you got an error before.  Did you not get it while running some command?
[00:38] <pooky1> RenatoSilva:  in gutsy it didnt.... well you couldnt type while viewing a cube...
[00:38] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: hum no, just pidgin-otr
[00:38] <Pelo> plitter, check to see if you donT' have a locked check box
[00:38] <Lars_G> Starcraftmazter: The kernel would need to recognize the raid controller, but beyound that, it's transparent to ubuntu
[00:38] <VCoolio> trism: ah right, will install that, thx
[00:38] <sweetandy> Yos: wicd beats network-manager
[00:38] <pooky1> RenatoSilva: now 3d acceleration isnt supported on my laptop so having hard time playing around with compiz
[00:39] <mickster04> daleharvey, well if u run the live disk, then run the installer off that, it normally works fine
[00:39] <Starcraftmazter> Lars_G: would there be a list somewhere of supported controllers, or manufacturers that provide oss drivers?
[00:39] <Alan> tanath: i.e. jaunty-updates vs jaunty-security
[00:39] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: gutsy is OLD hehe
[00:39] <tanath> Alan, i have more than one package from different locations providing the package 'firefox' and when i run 'apt-cache show firefox' both are listed...
[00:39] <Lars_G> Starcraftmazter: for normal use that is. if you want to reconfigure, a very few raid controllers will have linux software, some a bios interface and some a windows only software
[00:39] <tony> plitter: right click and select move
[00:39] <ProfOak> Hey guys, how is ext4 files ystem as of now?
[00:39] <Pelo> aresnick, you'll need todo that from the live cd, but yo shoudlnT' lose anything
[00:39] <Yos> I tried network mananger, it doesn't list my ISP
[00:39] <arand> e2: I'm using the 64bit prerelease, and for issues with unstable flash on 64bit I was going to recommend it.
[00:39] <tanath> Alan, in that case, i know security takes priority
[00:39] <aresnick> Pelo: OK, and I won't need to edit fstab, right?
[00:39]  * Pelo never gets any helps
[00:39] <MK13> jrib, i got the error when running "chown -R usrname:usrname /home/usrname"
[00:39] <Lars_G> Starcraftmazter: I'd google for the model and linux
[00:40] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: don't know what is pidgin-otr
[00:40] <Pelo> aresnick, if the uuid of the partition remains the same no
[00:40] <pooky1> RenatoSilva: thats the version that was released when i turned my back on windows... but hardy was already coming out the end of the month... and no more compiz for me =(
[00:40] <tanath> ProfOak, depends who you ask :P
[00:40] <Starcraftmazter> ok thanks Lars_G
[00:40] <Lars_G> ProfOak: so far so good
[00:40] <Pelo> aresnick, I'm assuming that /usr is already on a seperate partitons ?
[00:40] <aresnick> Pelo: yep
[00:40] <dooglus> !devede
[00:40] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: it's a plugin for OTR in pidgin.  OTR is a chat encryption system
[00:40] <aresnick> Pelo: what would cause the uuid to change?
[00:40] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: sorry could you start again, I don't know what you mean
[00:40] <leaf__> hello
[00:40] <plitter> tony Pelo i get all amsn evolution, volume, ibus, network all the way to the right, and i dont know how to move them...
[00:40] <arand> Pelo: Or go to nautilus preferences, display, icon captions, an move the captions up one step (means they'll appear on lower zoom)
[00:40] <daleharvey> jrib: do you have any suggestions where to go from here? im guessing recovering a half working install might work
[00:40] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: ok
[00:40] <ProfOak> Last release, it wasn't encouraged to use ext4.
[00:40] <jrib> MK13: so why didn't you tell me that when I asked?  Anyway, create a new user, check the permissions of .gvfs and make sure your user's permissions match
[00:40] <dooglus> is anyone familiar with 'devede'?  I asked it to make a 4.4GB iso for burning to a DVD from a .avi movie
[00:40] <pooky1> RenatoSilva: yeah i figured out for the MD5.... and after 2nd download its full
[00:41] <Pelo> aresnick, if the uuid stays the same there should not be any problem , I think you might end up , extending to the right and then in a second step resizing it from the left but whatever
[00:41] <dooglus> and it has made a 2GB .sio
[00:41] <dksoba88> Diddleha, installing from USB... very nice to not use CD's IMHO
[00:41] <dooglus> iso
[00:41] <jrib> daleharvey: have you tried the alternate install?
[00:41] <leaf__> any one knows what is the best firewall for ubuntu?
[00:41] <e2> arand, thats a worry... this link for example http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm works fine in 32bit... not playing in 64bit with a new install etc..
[00:41] <MK13> jrib, i had all that in the earlier chat
[00:41] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: I'll talke a look at emphaty's support for IRC, if it's ok then I'll remove fudgin
[00:41] <pooky1> <(* *)>
[00:41] <tanath> ProfOak, if you're concerned about data loss, you might wanna hold off a bit longer
[00:41] <Lars_G> dooglus: I know it's a spanish spelling for how dvd sounds
[00:41] <daleharvey> the image usb-creator made might be broken, but ive lost my ubuntu install now, can you make new images with osx?
[00:41] <dooglus> leaf__: iptables.  it's built into the kernel
[00:41] <Lars_G> dooglus: nothing else
[00:41] <MK13> jrib, and how do i do what you just said?
[00:41] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: as far as irc support goes, xchat and irssi are the best
[00:41] <xrandr> ok, so i have the 9.10 beta installed. How do i switch from beta to release?
[00:41] <dooglus> Lars_G: thanks man.  you rock.
[00:41] <leaf__> dooglus how can i see/configure?
[00:41] <Lars_G> dooglus: :P
[00:41] <aresnick> Pelo: OK; thanks!
[00:41] <tanath> dooglus, it tends to use what it needs only
[00:41] <pooky1> !final xrandr
[00:42] <lstarnes> leaf__: there are frontends to iptables such as firestarter
[00:42] <pooky1> miss... =(
[00:42] <dksoba88> MenZa: Where can I ask questions about general things about Ubuntu... like the history or things like that?
[00:42] <Pelo> arand, thanks I'lll try that ,
[00:42] <mage__> how am i supposed to do cron jobs with upstart?
[00:42] <xrandr> !ubuntu
[00:42] <tanath> dooglus, i often find it smaller than estimated too
[00:42] <lstarnes> leaf__: there is also ufw and its graphical frontend, gufw
[00:42] <xrandr> !final
[00:42] <dooglus> tanath: ok, fair enough.  the picture quality is a bit crappy, but made the .avi was too
[00:42] <jrib> MK13: which step are you not sure how to do?
[00:42] <ProfOak> tanath: ok thanks, I'll just wait until it's the standard.
[00:42] <MidnightDevil> hi
[00:42] <Alan> tanath: that's still different repos, not mirrors of the same repo
[00:42] <arand> e2: Hmm, xrandr if you are fully upgraded, you are in final
[00:42] <FFEMTcJ> Is anyone having problems trying to get 9.10 to dual boot, with win7 installed first?
[00:42] <leaf__> lstarnes i can go by command line?
[00:42] <Pelo> plitter, the way to do it is with right click,  don'T know why you are not getting it
[00:42] <e2> arand, bound to be a simple explanation... not a huge issue.. and i can see there are lots more important issues at the moment... most youtubes/ flash working...
[00:42] <MK13> when you say compare the permissions
[00:42] <tanath> dooglus, well it can't make it magically better, so increasing size would do nothing without better source file, yes
[00:42] <FFEMTcJ> I have installed 9.10 twice and my system will still only boot into Windows
[00:42] <jrib> MK13: ls -ld PATH_TO_FILE
[00:42] <MidnightDevil> i need help with my network.. i just got karmic installed and i have a acer laptop.. but network isnt working at all. neither wired or wireless.. can someone help me out? it seems like is detected but disabled
[00:42] <MK13> jrib, when you say compare the permissions
[00:42] <tanath> ProfOak, as am i
[00:43] <lstarnes> leaf__: iptables is command-line (see man iptables)
[00:43] <dooglus> xrandr: just do an apt-get update && apt-get dist upgrade and you'll have the 'final' release
[00:43] <Sgeo> Will bad things happen if I install a package for 7.10 on a 7.04 system?
[00:43] <Alan> tanath: it doesn't disambiguate between "gb.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty main" and "helios jaunty main"
[00:43] <Alan> if you catch my drift
[00:43] <tanath> ProfOak, had FSes corrupt under ext4
[00:43] <lstarnes> Sgeo: probably
[00:43]  * RenatoSilva thanks all
[00:43] <Sgeo> Bleh
[00:43] <MK13> jrib, and just make a random username?
[00:43] <e2> arand, just installed clean from final....
[00:43] <xrandr> already up2date then
[00:43] <lstarnes> Sgeo: 7.10 and 7.04 are both out of date and unsupported
[00:43] <jrib> Sgeo: bad things will happen if you use 7.04 as it's unsupported anyway
[00:43] <MenZa> dksoba88: Try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[00:43] <jrib> MK13: sure
[00:43] <Sgeo> lstarnes, I'm too lazy to upgrade a system I rarely use anymore anyway
[00:43] <arand> e2: sorry, was talking to xrandr
[00:43] <dooglus> xrandr: that's what I did - installed the beta, and update/dist-upgrade day by day
[00:43] <Lars_G> Sgeo: it will probably fail to install for dependency failure, and then if you force it, it'll probably fail to run, which on the case of a library can cause lots of damage
[00:43] <tanath> Sgeo, potentially, but usually not
[00:43] <leaf__> lstarnes thanks pall
[00:43] <Pelo> arand, thanks it worked, I would have looked forever for that
[00:43] <e2> arand, np..
[00:44] <MidnightDevil> someone please?
[00:44] <MidnightDevil> i need help with my network.. i just got karmic installed and i have a acer laptop.. but network isnt working at all. neither wired or wireless.. can someone help me out? it seems like is detected but disabled
[00:44]  * Pelo is off
[00:44] <Sgeo> Anyone know of any Dropbox like things that don't require installing stuff?
[00:44] <dooglus> MidnightDevil: wired should be easy enough.  did you try 'sudo ifup eth0'?
[00:44] <bigfootbuilt> Wasn't the 9.10 update supposed to include Firefox 3.5.4?
[00:44] <tanath> Alan, if you need it to use a specific one, why don't you make that happen?
[00:44] <plitter> Pelo: when i right click on the symbols all the way to the right i get their options not the gui options, i followed tony advice about unlocking from panel and it worked but i only get it as far as the programs that take up the space all the way to the right
[00:44] <MK13> jrib, any clue what the permissions should be, i don't want to have to create a new user
[00:44] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: it includes firefox 3.5
[00:44] <Lars_G> Sgeo: www.adrive.com works with std protocols like webdav and ftp
[00:44] <vladik> hey guys quick question
[00:44] <leaf__> Any one knows how to run everest poker well? ive tryed wine, cedega etc but i cant put that run...
[00:44] <Sgeo> Lars_G, ty
[00:44] <tanath> Alan, otherwise, the implication is that you don't care, and it shouldn't matter
[00:45] <arand> Sgeo: ubuntuone is installed by default in ubuntu...
[00:45] <jrib> MK13: no, I don't have an ubuntu system at hand.  This is how you can solve the problem yourself
[00:45] <vladik> Im in a middle of installing a package with apt-get
[00:45] <Sgeo> arand, in 7.04?
[00:45] <MidnightDevil> dooglus when i type ifconfig .. i got lo only detected with the address 127... will it work?
[00:45] <Alan> tanath: because i have things like laptops that are sometimes inside my network, sometimes outside
[00:45] <arand> Sgeo: ah, no.
[00:45] <leaf__> Any one knows how to run everest poker well? ive tryed wine, cedega etc but i cant put that run...
[00:45] <dooglus> MidnightDevil: you need more than just 'lo' to get online
[00:45] <mage__> us.archive.ubuntu.com is an alias for ftp.acc.umu.se.
[00:45] <leaf__> i love poker
[00:45] <MK13> jrib, well, this is what i get anyway :(   dr-x------ 2 usrname usrname 0 2009-10-29 19:16 /home/usrname/.gvfs
[00:45] <leaf__> :P
[00:45] <mage__> isn't .se a different country?
[00:45] <FFEMTcJ> Is anyone having problems trying to get 9.10 to dual boot, with win7 installed first?
[00:45] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Yeah, cd's are less smooth.
[00:45] <jrib> MK13: great, compare that to a fresh new user's
[00:45] <TecnoBrat> MidnightDevil: sounds to me like your network card drivers aren't being detected / installed
[00:45] <vladik> Im in a middle of installing a package with apt-get , I cannot proceed since I need a prior package installed and I get 'dpkg was interrupted' but 'configure' won't work since I cannot continue the configuration , what to do ?
[00:45] <Alan> I want them to have external and internal mirrors available, such that it uses the local one when inside the network,  but fails over to the external one when it can't reach the internal one
[00:45] <tony> leaf__: have you tried pokerTH?
[00:45] <MidnightDevil> dooglus i know... and that's the problem, i got wireless and ethernet detected on lspci.. but i got nothing on ifconfig or iwconfig
[00:45] <dooglus> MidnightDevil: I always end up uninstalling the network-manager package and configuring everything manually, but that's probably frowned upon
[00:46] <LjL> vladik: "configure"? what's "configure"?
[00:46] <tanath> Alan, you could comment out certain repo lines depending on context (where you are)
[00:46] <leaf__> tony i want to play for real money
[00:46] <MK13> jrib, do i need to run the command as the new user on it's own .gvfs?
[00:46] <TecnoBrat> vladik: doesn't it say something about running dpkg-reconfigure?
[00:46] <dksoba88> Diddleha, yea plus you have to buy it, use it once, and then it's a coaster
[00:46] <jrib> MK13: of course
[00:46] <mikechelen> anyone know why my system doesn't notice there is a distro upgrade?
[00:46] <TecnoBrat> vladik: normally dpkg-reconfigure *package_name* is what you want
[00:46] <Alan> tanath: i don't want to comment/uncomment 5 times a day....
[00:46] <tanath> Alan, and would it not just use whichever was available?
[00:46] <woddf2> Hello
[00:46] <tony> leaf__ ok, that won't work then
[00:46] <netbook> I need some SSH help, I upgraded to KK, copied over my sshd_config and iptable rules. Did iptables-restore and ./init.d/ssh restart and now I am getting "Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer" HELP
[00:46] <Alan> tanath: but both are available when inside the network...
[00:46] <vladik> TecnoBrat , I cannot configure that package until I install another one , I cannot install that one cause it's stuck.
[00:46] <Lars_G> mikechelen: have you been using RC/Beta? it might be up to date already
[00:46] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Aha!... but "RW" is ok. Slow though.
[00:47] <RayC> hello...
[00:47] <mage__> Alan: abuse a hosts file then
[00:47] <tanath> Alan, heh, in that case, just update repos and it'll use whatever is available
[00:47] <MidnightDevil> dooglus i got a "ignoring unknow interface eth=eth. ... what can i do? :(
[00:47] <mikechelen> Lars_G, only jaunty-updates and -backports
[00:47] <tanath> Alan, then it shouldn't matter inside the network
[00:47] <leaf__> tony yeah right lool
[00:47] <TecnoBrat> vladik: ... dpkg-reconfigure *package_name* the BROKEN package, not the one you are trying to install.
[00:47] <LjL> vladik: have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install"
[00:47] <RayC> this is my first time here and.. hmm.. let me see if people have answer for my question.
[00:47] <tanath> Alan, outside the network, it'll use the only one available
[00:47] <Alan> tanath: yes it should - quick vs. slow
[00:47] <Bwyard> how do i unmount an extra partition mounted to /
[00:47] <MidnightDevil> dooglus the previous release was working fine.. do u think if i install the 9.04 and i dist-upgrade will work ?
[00:47] <tanath> Alan, ah
[00:47] <Lars_G> mikechelen: if you're using one of the gui package managers, you have to update all packages before it'll show the option to dist upgrade
[00:48] <dksoba88> Diddleha, yea... plus they go bad because of scratches.
[00:48] <tony> leaf__ have you tried pokerstars?
[00:48] <TecnoBrat> vladik: it'll run the configure again on the package, and should "unstick" it
[00:48] <RayC> i've got Dell M1330 and I just installed ubuntu 9.10, and i can't get wireless working, does anybody have answer for this?
[00:48] <vladik> TecnoBrat, that's what I am doing. it asks me for the location of java binary, but since java isn't installed yet its just stuck
[00:48] <tanath> Alan, well, do you really need to be updating repos 5 times a day?
[00:48] <Alan> tanath: 300MB of updates over gigabit is better than pulling it down an ADSL connection...
[00:48] <woddf2> I am upgrading to Karmic. My Internet connection is a bit slow at the moment. What happens if I click Cancel in the upgrade dialogue box if it is at the "Getting new packages" stage?
[00:48] <leaf__> tony humm no but ive tryed bwin too and doesnt work..
[00:48] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Yeah, that blows.
[00:48] <pooky1> ?? is there a certain burning speed that i should use for burning Karmic ??
[00:48] <Alan> tanath: if i'm installing stuff from many locations, maybe, yes
[00:48] <RayC> Wireless problems anybody?
[00:48] <mikechelen> Lars_G, ah that must be it, there is one package that won't upgrade, happens with command line apt-get as well
[00:48] <Bwyard> how do i unmount an extra partition mounted to /
[00:48] <TecnoBrat> vladik: gonna have to force install it then
[00:48] <mage__> woddf2: you should be fine, apt usually downloads then does stuff
[00:48] <rwg> lstarnes: massive channel is massive. :P
[00:48] <jrib> pooky1: 2 or 4
[00:48] <Diddleha> pooky: Full speed ahead :)
[00:49] <MK13> jrib, should a guest account work?
[00:49] <LjL> Bwyard: how can you even have an "extra" partition mounted there?
[00:49] <tony> leaf__ I've used pokerstars in the past but not recently...have you tried and web based sites?
[00:49] <vladik> TecnoBrat, trying
[00:49] <jrib> MK13: I don't know
[00:49] <woddf2> mage__: What happens if I reboot after canceling?
[00:49] <RayC> ok.. i guess i won't be getting help here...
[00:49] <module000> with 9.10...it installed grub2.  how do i *re*install grub2 now that i've overwritten the mbr with another OS's loader.  I know how to do grub1, but grub2 seems like a whole new ballgame
[00:49] <mage__> woddf2: its not doing the upgrade yet
[00:49] <tanath> Alan, i'm not sure there's a particularly easy solution for you other than choosing on a case-by-case basis
[00:49] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else experiencing audio issues in pidgin and totem? If i play a short wav file it plays really fast however after that it'll play correctly unless i wait a while before retrying
[00:49] <fxhp> RayC: whats the matter?
[00:49] <leaf__> toni yeah web based work but is not the same thing
[00:49] <RayC> Wireless problem
[00:49] <pooky1> Diddleha: i had problem with old distro burned too fast or xbox games i did backup.... at full speed
[00:49] <vladik> TecnoBrat , tried it still asks me to run 'dpkg-reconfigure' but that doesn't help
[00:49] <woddf2> mage__: Does it revert the apt sources?
[00:49] <pooky1> thats why i ask...
[00:49] <fxhp> RayC: pm me
[00:49] <mage__> woddf2: I'm not sure when it changes the apt sources
[00:49] <Bwyard> um i do not know but i do
[00:50] <Alan> tanath: I already have a solution that works fine, but it's ugly - i'm trying to find out if the ugly can be avoided
[00:50] <dksoba88> Diddleha, okay... booting 9.10
[00:50] <woddf2> mage__: Will it be unbootable?
[00:50] <mage__> no
[00:50] <tony> leaf__ that's the extent of my poker expertise, good luck
[00:50] <TecnoBrat> vladik: try removing them both then, and install again
[00:50] <tanath> Alan, which is?
[00:50] <vladik> TecnoBrat, I can't finish configuring since I don't have java installed yet (I installed them in the wrong order by mistake)
[00:50] <Diddleha> pooky1: There should be no such issues unless its defect hardware.
[00:50] <woddf2> Thanks
[00:50] <pooky1> RayC: have you looked under system>hardware driver (third party and non-free driver)
[00:50] <TecnoBrat> vladik: force removing I mean
[00:50] <Alan> tanath: at the moment, i have my local mirror lines at the beginning - when it tries to fetch packages, it stops trying the local one if the first fetch from it failed, and continues with the remote one
[00:50] <Bwyard> i have thge original 10g partition mounted there then a 70 gig partition as well
[00:50] <vladik> TecnoBrat, I can't remove anything because the dpkg isn't finished yet, it just tells me to finish it first (even when trying to apt-get remove it)
[00:50] <pooky1> Diddleha: old gateway laptop thats open 24/7
[00:51] <Alan> tanath: what I'm trying to find out is if precedence is order-dependent
[00:51] <guest__> jrib, it's MK13, here is the ls -ld for the guest : drwx------ 2 guest guest 40 2009-10-29 19:47 /tmp/guest-home.vMAIgA/.gvfs
[00:51] <leaf__> toni thanks. ive alredy contact everest poker to incentive the development in open source
[00:51] <Alan> tanath: I want to have the SAME effect if i just drop a foo.list file in sources.list.d/
[00:51] <Diddleha> dksoba88: See what versions of gadmin-proftpd and gadmin-rsync are in it.
[00:51] <rwg> I realized something... this channel is like.. the epitome of IRC
[00:51] <leaf__> toni its a huge comunity using linux alredy
[00:51] <jrib> guest__: so you should make your user's .gvfs writable by the owner
[00:51] <mikechelen> Lars_G, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" still isn't doing anything, even with all packages updated
[00:51] <rwg> about 5 people talking
[00:51] <Ben64> Sup guys, my friend has an Acer Aspire One, I'm trying to load Ubuntu on it, tried 9.04 and 9.10, same error happens.. Wireless doesn't work unless I first "modprobe ath5k" .. What do I need to do to fix it?
[00:51] <rwg> and the rest just there "staring" :P
[00:51] <dooglus> MidnightDevil: no, I don't think that would help
[00:51] <Diddleha> pooky1 :)
[00:51] <Alan> tanath: but I can't seem to find out if apt cares about the order of the lines in sources.list or whatever...
[00:51] <pooky1> ill go the slowest i can (10)
[00:51] <guest__> jrib how should i do that? (respond back to MK13)
[00:52] <tanath> Alan, mm, well personally i avoid useing sources.list.d/ in favor of centralizing repos in sources.list file
[00:52] <Lars_G> mikechelen: that on the command line will do nothing if you've not changed your repos to the newer version ones and done an apt-get update first
[00:52] <VCoolio> I just installed karmic (yay) but the grub2 menu didn't show. That's fine, there is nothing to choose atm, but is that what grub thinks too? Will it show when a kernel update is installed? Or does it default to not showing and do I need to hold <shift> on boot?
[00:52] <DB42> is ubuntu 9.10 finally worth going full 64-bit mode, or that still sucks, and i386 is the recommended way for normal users ?
[00:52] <jrib> MK13: chmod o+w ~/.gvfs
[00:52] <tanath> Alan, i don't know myself, sorry
[00:52] <Bwyard> so can someone help me
[00:52] <Ben64> DB42: 64 > 32
[00:52] <NoelJB> Sorinello, no really, but I believe that one issue might be what the virtual display driver reports as the available resolutions.
[00:52] <jrib> DB42: i've been using 64 bit ubuntu for years now...
[00:52] <mikechelen> Lars_G, oh, why do the repos have to be changed? thought it would notice the distribution upgrade automatically
[00:52] <DB42> Ben64, in linux 64 used to be a pain in the ass
[00:52] <Diddleha> pooky1: Reminds me of an old "Kiss" burner and MrData Cd's :)
[00:52] <leaf__> -------------------------------------------UBUNTU FOREVER-------------------------------------------
[00:52] <leaf__> :D
[00:53] <trism> VCoolio: it showed up for me by default on this clean install
[00:53] <Ben64> DB42: maybe a long time ago, but I've been doing it since I got my AMD64 3200+
[00:53] <mage__> DB42: depends on specific apps like flash and commercial software that isn't in 64bit for any linux distro
[00:53] <Ben64> flash has 64bit now
[00:53] <tanath> forever is a long time
[00:53] <Ben64> so everything is gravy
[00:53] <pooky1> DB42: im wondering that too... but i often see that 64bit application tends to be upgraded after 32bit clones...
[00:53] <dksoba88> Diddleha, how do I do that w/out installing them?
[00:53] <MK13> jrib, it didn't change what ls -ld gives to my user
[00:53] <redtime> how can i get new linux source for compile new kernel driver?
[00:53] <DB42> k
[00:53] <leaf__> well but if more games of windows work in linux the linux will be more used
[00:53] <jrib> MK13: maybe log out and run it?
[00:53] <rwg> I bet I could say horribly offensive things here and nobody would notice becasue they'd get flushed away by the conversations :P
[00:53] <Plugh> Ben64, which flashplayer is available in 64 bit now?
[00:53] <tomasz> hi
[00:53] <VCoolio> trism: do you have dual boot?
[00:53] <NoelJB> Sorinello, with karmic and Workstation 7, for me it comes up with a low resolution (e.g., login) and I have to raise it to what I want.
[00:53] <Ben64> Plugh: adobe's.
[00:53] <trism> VCoolio: yeah
[00:54] <Plugh> Ben64, cool. its about time.
[00:54] <pooky1> rwg: and what would be the point ?
[00:54] <Ben64> indeed
[00:54] <VCoolio> trism: that may be a significant difference: you have something to choose (bad for you ;) )
[00:54] <mikechelen> Lars_G, ahh, got it working, had to use Update Manager gui instead of Synaptic Package Manager
[00:54] <Diddleha> dksoba88: sudo apt-get install ProgramName then press CTRL+C or install it.
[00:54] <TecnoBrat> vladik: try this - "apt-get -f install" without a package name, and also try "apt-get -f remove" also without a package name
[00:54] <Sorinello> NoelJB: thanks ...
[00:54] <MK13> jrib, how do i run it after logging out?
[00:54] <Ben64> I used to use the 32bit version with the wrapper thing, and it sucked bad
[00:54] <bwyard> im back
[00:54] <jrib> MK13: log in at tty1
[00:54] <Ben64> now flash works flawlessly in 64bit
[00:54] <NoelJB> Sorinello, so I haven't looked to see how the new login screen handles resolution.  I do see a lot of people asking the question, and no answers.
[00:54] <MK13> kk jrib
[00:54] <bwyard> so how would i unmount a second partition mounted to /
[00:54] <jrib> Ben64: ahem "flawlessly"
[00:54] <Ben64> it's true
[00:54] <Richard_Martin> whats up
[00:54] <leaf__> can someone tell me if the ubuntu have born from canonical or from one user?
[00:54] <pooky1>  jrib: loll
[00:54] <Flynsarmy> with alsa-base.conf in modprobe.d will changing snd-hda-intel do anything if my sound card is a sigmaTel?
[00:55] <Ben64> I've yet to have any flash not work
[00:55] <Diddleha> dksoba88: or "N" as in No or "Y" as in yes :)
[00:55] <jrib> bwyard: that makes no sense, but you want to use "umount" I guess
[00:55] <TecnoBrat> vladik: generally that fixes things .. if not, I think there is an option with "dpkg" to force remove a package, but I don't remember for sure.
[00:55] <jacquesdupontd> hey guys
[00:55] <redtime> :(
[00:55] <bwyard> i tried it wont work
[00:55] <e2> Ben64, really? you are running 64bit? does http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm play for you? it does in 32bit?
[00:55] <blankhead> how do you enable the nvidia driver in 9.10
[00:55] <arand> e2: see is the 64bit flash instruction at the very end of this article helps you: http://www.reddit.com/tb/9z2xk/
[00:55] <e2> arand, looking at it now
[00:55] <mikechelen> !nvidia | blankhead
[00:55] <Ben64> e2: plays fine
[00:55] <jacquesdupontd> i have a brand new laptop and i installed multi boot windows seven and ubuntu 9.04, would like to update to 9.10 is there an easy way to do it from my actual 9.04 ?
[00:56] <pooky1> blankhead: correct me if im wrong but i think nvidia has open sources drivers available to community so run out of the box ??
[00:56] <Flynsarmy> blankhead, system - administration - hardware drivers
[00:56] <Loafers> Why can't I remove adobereader-enu???? http://pastebin.com/d7f0208c4
[00:56] <rod> I upgraded to 9.10 today, can anybody tell we why there is a process called "dbus-daemon" occupying 50% of my CPU?
[00:56] <TecnoBrat> blankhead: what Flynsarmy said
[00:56] <netbook> can someone help me! : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8192314#post8192314
[00:56] <guest__> jrib, it worked, thnx
[00:56] <Mike_lifeguard> !update | jacquesdupontd
[00:56] <jacquesdupontd> so ?
[00:56] <vladik> TecnoBrat, "apt-get anything" doesn't seem to work until I finish configuring the first package I tried to install (even those last two). I've installed java-bridge before java, and during the configuration of java-bridge it asks for the location of java, until I give it one it won't finish it... but until I finish it I can't install java
[00:56] <jrib> guest__: cool
[00:56] <jacquesdupontd> ok thanks
[00:57] <TecnoBrat> vladik: and if you give it a dummy location?
[00:57] <aguitel> jacquesdupontd, sudo aptitude update and then sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[00:57] <mage__> vladik: try apt-get remove java-bridge
[00:57] <MidnightDevil> dooglus the previous release was working fine.. do u think if i install the 9.04 and i dist-upgrade will work ?
[00:57] <dksoba88> Diddleha, package not found
[00:57] <TecnoBrat> vladik: just give it like "/dev/null"?
[00:57]  * pooky1 can't wait to format and switch to 9.10 =D
[00:57] <philip___> ok I wanna dist-upgrade to 10.04
[00:57] <vladik> TecnoBrat, it just asks again until it'll get a valid location
[00:57] <jrib> philip___: impossible it's not april yet
[00:57] <TecnoBrat> vladik: :(
[00:57] <Diddleha> dksoba88: sudo apt-get install squid ?
[00:57] <pooky1> philip___: good luck ;)
[00:58] <vladik> TecnoBrat, and dpkg claims java-bridge isn't installed yet, so it can't remove it
[00:58] <craigbass1976> Ok, I'm on Hardy, and my wife can't play facebook's farkle.  ANYONE else had this trouble and found a fix?
[00:58] <dksoba88> Diddleha, same thing
[00:58] <thiebaude> philip___, if you want to start testing it wait til  Nov 5
[00:58] <philip___> jrib: I'm just saying. I wanna struggle with an unstable system :-)
[00:58] <rod> can anybody tell we why there is a process called "dbus-daemon" occupying 50% of my CPU?
[00:59] <Diddleha> dksoba88: As i suspected. Networking down or apt lists bad etc ?
[00:59] <andril> i got a easy one - how do you remove the CD repositories
[00:59] <MatFarrel> hi i'm downloading ubuntu9.10 with DownThemAll and i have speed 128KB/s. lovely.
[00:59] <TecnoBrat> vladik: IIRC it requires the exact package name, including version etc
[00:59] <corden> by the way guys got error on wubi after booting - ntfs5 wubildr - any help? Tnx
[00:59] <jrib> andril: system -> administration -> software sources
[00:59] <plitter> Pelo tony it worked thanks:)
[00:59] <pooky1> in the repositories you can choose the website and add or delete them =D
[01:00] <tony> plitter: you're welcome
[01:00] <andril> jrib: cool how do i remove the cd images - not the checks
[01:00] <dksoba88> Diddleha, running sudo apt-get update
[01:00] <arand> philip___: --> gnome developmer kit ?
[01:00] <vladik> TecnoBrat, how can I tell the exact pacakge name? I installed it using "java-bridge-zend-server"
[01:00] <craigbass1976> I believe I've cleaned everything flashy out of the box and can start fresh
[01:00] <dksoba88> Diddleha, yea wireless not working...but eth0 is fine
[01:00] <jacquesdupontd> aguitel, that's what i was searching, it's working perfectly you tried it ?
[01:00] <jrib> arand: they should be listed there.  If you prefer, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and run « sudo apt-get update »
[01:00] <jacquesdupontd> aguitel, not working not seeing the update
[01:00] <jacquesdupontd> in sources
[01:00] <jacquesdupontd> but works with the manager
[01:01] <jacquesdupontd> but i don't like it that's why i came here
[01:01] <rance> i have a question i forgot what % <-------WHAT does that mean in python i forgot
[01:01] <TecnoBrat> vladik: dpkg --list |grep java-bridge
[01:01] <braintorch> Hi.  These "You will be logout in 60 seconds" thing. Does anybody know how to fix it?
[01:02] <Mike_lifeguard> rance: string interpolation?
[01:02] <mickster04> anyone having battery reporting problems
[01:02] <Mike_lifeguard> braintorch: Please let me know if you get an answer to that.  I finally got it removed and apt working again
[01:03] <TecnoBrat> vladik: no worries
[01:03] <leaf__> my pakage installer window is frosen what is the name of process to kill?
[01:04] <rod> can anybody tell we why there is a process called "dbus-daemon" occupying 50% of my CPU?
[01:04] <netrat> braintorch: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7008668&postcount=38
[01:04] <Maximo> question: how you guys making out with new dist?
[01:04] <braintorch> Mike_lifeguard: yeah. And it seems, that gnome doesn't respect .config/user_dirs.dirs config. It just creating standart folders over and over
[01:04] <Maximo> is okay to upgrade it?
[01:04] <ctmjr> !ohmy | Mike_lifeguard: feel better now
[01:05] <leaf__> my pakage installer window is frosen what is the name of process to kill?
[01:05] <DigitalKiwi> and goodwill towards mn
[01:05] <ctmjr> Mike_lifeguard: :)
[01:05] <DigitalKiwi> men*
[01:05] <Yos> Anyone can help me get my internet to show up on the network so that I can browse ?
[01:05] <Mike_lifeguard> ctmjr: the smiley means I won't build a voodoo doll of you
[01:05] <jacquesdupontd> aguitel, thx a lot gonna try that new update
[01:05] <leaf__> daemon
[01:05] <braintorch> netrat: thanks
[01:05] <e2> arand Ben64 just done that.... nope.... still wont play.... most of the things do though.... Ben64 interesting that it's working for you... it's a trivial thing, but would be good to work out what the issue was for me...
[01:05] <leaf__> are you there
[01:06] <preecher> my 11th month windows free and 11th month on ubuntu-still learning but lovin it all the way
[01:06] <leaf__> are you there
[01:06] <Ben64> e2: you have 64 bit, and 64 bit flash 10?
[01:06] <leaf__> my pakage installer window is frosen what is the name of process to kill?
[01:06] <dksoba88> Diddleha, gadmin rsync is 0.1.2-1
[01:06] <craigbass1976> Nobody?
[01:06] <Diddleha> neat!
[01:06] <e2> Ben64, yes... fresh install few hours ago
[01:06] <tanath> compiz is blacking out my desktop, and not displaying icons. anyone know how to fix?
[01:06] <ctmjr> Mike_lifeguard: that's a relieve thanks
[01:06] <magr> can someone tell me why i cant connect with the nx client to my ubuntu machine? it says the nx service is not available...but i can connect with putty..i have the same .ket file for the ssh connection...
[01:06] <craigbass1976> Facebook? Farkle? Angry wife wanting XP after doing so well without it for 5+ years?
[01:06] <dksoba88> Diddleha, gadmin proftpd 1:0.3.5-4
[01:06] <andril> why did 9.10 remove Opera, Virtualbox  and Limewire?
[01:06] <Guest84455> hey guys, i just updated to 9.10, or so i thought. i ran "apt-get upgrade" and 50 minutes later after it has restarted. it wants me to upgrade to 9.10 again
[01:06] <pooky1> leaf__ synaptic or ubuntuone ?
[01:06] <dksoba88> Diddleha, why?
[01:07] <Ben64> e2: well.. are you _sure_ you are on 64bit flash? open firefox, go to about:plugins and make sure
[01:07] <e2> Ben64, used mediabuntu... also flashplayer-nonfree
[01:07] <stuff> why isn't there a .img in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/current/ is 9.10 UNR not out yet?
[01:07] <leaf__> pooky1 synaptic
[01:07] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Wow, thats like brand new stuff. It was a bit old in the 9.04 rel
[01:07] <Jceed> Hi - I installed ubuntu under windows and I can't find it anywhere. Is it like an app or do I have to load at the start of booting up?
[01:07] <blaz2> alternate CD install doesn't work from USB stick :(((
[01:07] <Majost> because the companies which develop those products chose not to distribute their software through the partners repos
[01:07] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Ill upgrade tonight! :)
[01:08] <stuff> why isn't there a .img in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/current/ is 9.10 UNR not out yet?
[01:08] <mage__> Guest84455: i thought apt-get upgrade was to update the current dist, or did you mean like "apt-get upgrade -flags"?
[01:08] <deco> is the updated ubuntuone-client available already ?
[01:08] <pooky1> leaf__ rightclick on it and close...
[01:08] <pooky1> its gonna forcequit
[01:08] <Diddleha> dksoba88: I have wireless internet so it takes a while (~3 Megabit/s) hehe
[01:08] <mickster04> Guest84455, that wasnt a question
[01:08] <e2> Ben64 interesting question... Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32
[01:09] <pooky1> if not... then list the processes and kill that PUID
[01:09] <Guest84455> mage: no i didnt use any flags. im still relatively new to linux OS. what can i write in terminal to upgrade then ?
[01:09] <leaf__> pooky1 good try but im not so foul lool. its frozen...
[01:09] <Chaorain> Can someone direct me to the torrent of 9.10?
[01:09] <redtime> what is [   12.108183] b43: probe of ssb0:0 failed with error -95
[01:09] <andril> i have the perfect wallpaper for 9.10 - source: http://alkore31.deviantart.com/art/Karmic-wood-141818439
[01:09] <redtime> ?
[01:09] <leaf__> pooky1 not close
[01:09] <Elias_> can I talk to someone about XFree86 configuration I just need some pointers, been reading things about it and fiddling with it on and off 3 days now, driving me insane.. wanna solve my own problem but need a point or two in the right direction, ty :)
[01:09] <Maximo> Is it okay to upgrade to 9:10?
[01:09] <mage__> Guest84455: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[01:10] <Ben64> e2: odd...
[01:10] <pooky1> leaf__ well i use that button on Gnome that kills a program on GUI
[01:10] <Maximo> !torrents
[01:10] <Ben64> Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32
[01:10] <mage__> Guest84455: the gui option might be better
[01:10] <deco> anyone know if the ubuntu one client update is availble ? it was suppose to fix the mismatch
[01:10] <Chaorain> ty
[01:10] <craigbass1976> Jceed, you should see a grub menu at boot and be able to choose ubuntu
[01:10] <braintorch> netrat: sorry, but there is not such option in karmic -_-
[01:10] <Jceed> craigbass1976: okay, thanks.
[01:10] <daleharvey> http://arthurdejong.org/recovery.html looks handy
[01:11] <wolf23> somebody help plz! why i got this in terminal --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/304691/
[01:11] <Swish> I don't get it.  I'm trying to install ubuntu on a new server (many HDDs, no CD-ROM drive), so I put ubuntu 8.04LTS on a 1TB usb flash drive by using unetbootin.  Then I boot off the USB stick which works, but when I want to "Install Server" it croaks when it finds no CD-ROM drive.  I googled and I can't find a solution
[01:11] <craigbass1976> Jceed, I'm trying to fix a flash issue so I should be in here a while
[01:11] <Diddleha> andril: Cool image, is that the default BG ?
[01:11] <craigbass1976> Jceed, if you're going to reboot...  Just pm me when you get back
[01:11] <Chaorain> wait. can't I just upgrade from 9.04? (I'm on a different machine)
[01:11] <andril> nope - just found it and using it
[01:11] <Maximo> why am I been ignored....question...is it okay to upgrade to 9:10?     thanks
[01:11] <e2> Ben64, works fin on 32bit.... I'm in the UK so it's not as if they would block me by ip... most of the flash works...noticed the same thing with 64bit sidux ......32bit is fine..
[01:12] <libtech> wolf23: whats wrong?
[01:12] <deco> anyone know if the ubuntu one client update is availble ? it was suppose to fix the mismatch
[01:12] <pooky1> Maximo if you feel like getting new... or you could wait a month or two to be sure everything is okay
[01:12] <wolf23> libtech,  why this message, what can i type?
[01:12] <miromanyth> Maximo, Sure go ahead
[01:12] <craigbass1976> Maximo, Is that the K one?  I heard there was some issue with the bootloader, and you'll end up having to do a fresh install for the next version after that
[01:12] <libtech> wolf23: try typing Y and press enter
[01:12] <bigfootbuilt> Maximo....run update manager and get the regular updates first, then upgrade
[01:12] <netrat> Maximo: yes it's okay to upgrade
[01:13] <daleharvey> Maximo: I have lost my work machine and have been ignored for the last 3/4 hours, feel happy :P
[01:13] <wolf23> libtech,  so everything fine,there is no error?
[01:13] <deco> anyone know if the ubuntu one client update is availble ? it was suppose to fix the mismatch
[01:13] <randal> Hey i just install ubuntu 9.10 on my netbook and i would like to make my computer open everything in maximize can anyone help me plz
[01:13] <Guest84455> can anyone recomend a program so i can run a virtual machine? (windows 7, its required for my college course)
[01:13] <libtech> wolf23: not that i am aware of, use the GUI to upgrade instead if you like
[01:13] <Diddleha> andril: Perhaps a sleek city coala as well, with a tie and a cubicle :)
[01:13] <preecher> deco mine still says mismatched
[01:13] <szed> i have created an encrypted lvm. i want to ask me for the password of it every time i boot just like what happens on the default installation. is there any guide for this?
[01:13] <BassGuy> ok, now that I kinda like Ubuntu, is there any way to install it natively (i.e. not "over top of Windows")
[01:13] <deco> preecher: oh :/
[01:13] <mage__> Swish: i dont think ubuntu supports unetbootin :-/
[01:14] <libtech> randal: netbook remix does that by default
[01:14] <andril> that would be nice
[01:14] <Guest84455> BassGuy: are you looking to remove windows completely ?
[01:14] <BassGuy> no
[01:14] <murr5y> hi! my 9.10 installer won't separate my two 120GB drives, it just shows them in RAID as 240GB. what's up with that? i wanted to just install on one of them.
[01:14] <BassGuy> If I wanted to remove windows, I could just format/partition the drive
[01:14] <andril> anyone know why the Virtualbox, Opera and Limewire were uninstalled after my upgrade
[01:15] <Elias_> does anyone know something about XFree86 here I need a point or two in the right direction been about day 3 now on trying to just figure out WHERE THE DANG CONFIG FILE IS and stuff like that
[01:15] <Swish> mage__, howso?  I've created the USBstick manually with syslinux etc, and the same problem happened.  'No common CD-ROM drive was detected' and the Ubuntu installer wouldn't go beyond that step.
[01:15] <randal> libtech i know but i dont have remix i didnt like it but i did like how everything opens maximized do you know how to do this in the non remix thanks
[01:15] <Diddleha> BassGuy: What do you want to do ?
[01:15] <SeaPhor> i am on a HP mini- no ODD- on 8.10 because 9.04 will not install, i only get recovery shell, i just tried to upgrade to 9.10 but its upgrading to 9.04,,, first.,  any suggestions?
[01:15] <wolf23> libtech,  i type y and it is downloading, but nothing can remove or delete from my folders?
[01:15] <Guest84455> BassGuy: create a partition and install windows to that. windows 7 uses 16GB
[01:15] <abryant288> Guest84455: virtualbox worked fine for me to run windows 7
[01:15] <Diddleha> BassGuy: "over top of windows" ? :)
[01:16] <dark_> yeah
[01:16] <Swish> mage__, I've been trying using the 64bit server .iso...
[01:16] <mage__> Swish: the scripts in the initrd are probably looking for a cdrom drive specifically
[01:16] <Plugh> Elias, I think the version of X now being used doesn't use an xorg.conf by default. I'm not quite sure where the base X config is now stored. YOu can set some things with GUI admin tools. What are you trying to do?
[01:16] <mac9416> Hello, what packages are required by empathy to connect to xmpp?
[01:16] <mage__> Swish: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/
[01:16]  * Swish reads
[01:16] <mage__> boot that with whatever you're familiar with
[01:16] <BassGuy> When the Ubuntu ISO/CD is mounted, it gives an option to install "in windows". I don't want to do that. Is it possible to dual boot? or is my Windows install completely gone
[01:16] <BassGuy> ?
[01:16] <FiReSTaRT> my props to canonical!!! suspend FINALLY works and so does my internal mic!!!
[01:16] <Diddleha> Swoosch
[01:17] <andril> yeah but my sound is gone
[01:17] <Plugh> mac9416: If you tell synaptic (or apt-get) to install empathy, you will see a list of its dependencies that your machine may still need in order to run that program.
[01:17] <Yos> Is there a console based browser that I can use ?
[01:17] <randal> Hey i just install ubuntu 9.10 on my netbook and i would like to make my computer open everything in maximize can anyone help me plz
[01:17] <CavalierPrime> BassGuy just boot to the liveCD instead of autostarting in Windows
[01:17] <murr5y> and my disks are gone :p
[01:17] <Guest84455> BassGuy: i actually installed ubuntu again today. you are using a cd/dvd that you have ubuntu on ?
[01:17] <ctmjr> Yos: w3m
[01:17] <BassGuy> I'm using a Ubuntu LiveCD
[01:17] <stone1343> randal use netbook remix, i just installed, it's great
[01:17] <Plugh> FiReSTaRT: Nice. I don't have the built-in mic working on either of two machines.
[01:18] <CavalierPrime> did you start Windows or boot the CD?
[01:18] <Elias_> Plugh: man, ty for responding I've been looking around at aticonfig and been writing down usb IDs and stuff like that - my end goal is to have 2 monitors and 2 mice hooked up. I am just trying to figure out how the heck to locate the default config file and etc
[01:18] <Guest84455> BassGuy: your computer should ask you to boot off cd/dvd and hit a key, else it continues to boot windows.
[01:18] <isaac> BassGuy if you're running from the live cd the installer should give you an option to use part of the hard drive for Ubuntu, and set up a dual boot system.
[01:18] <isaac> BassGuy Where you choose which OS (Ubuntu or Windoze) to run on startup.
[01:18] <isaac> BassGuy It should give you a little slider to select how much of the hard drive you want to give to each OS.
[01:18] <netbook> help please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8192314#post8192314
[01:18] <randal> stone1343, i guess but i just installed the non remix version
[01:18] <xim_> how can i tell if im on 64bit ubuntu or not?
[01:18] <FiReSTaRT> Plugh: if you don't have karmic, get it.. that's what did it for me
[01:18] <stone1343> randal i think you can add the package through synaptic
[01:18] <Alan> how do i stop the "accessible login" sound in Karmic?
[01:18] <Swish> mage__, I could try setting up an etherboot on USB stick to boot from that HTTP url...
[01:18] <Diddleha> BassGuy: Get a new computer and install it on. Leave the windows thing on the old compu and let it slowly rot as you enjoy the new one ;)
[01:19]  * Swish triess that
[01:19] <Cyboth> hey guys, am I the only one experiencing problems with installing Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix? from the boot I select Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, I see the ubuntu logo and then my screen goes black (I have an Aspire One)
[01:19] <Plugh> Elias_: Have you looked to see if you can set up what you need using the Display menu item under System -> Preferences?
[01:19] <mage__> Swish: the url might be too long
[01:19] <supertyco> hello
[01:19] <stone1343> randal it's the same as base ubuntu (as far as i can tell) just interface optimized for a netbook
[01:19] <Swish> mage__, alright I'll mirror it locally then.  let's see what happens :)
[01:19] <Plugh> FiReSTaRT: I am running Karmic.
[01:19] <supertyco> I Am sure I am over looking something very obvious
[01:20] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else experiencing audio issues in pidgin and totem? If i play a short wav file it plays really fast however after that it'll play correctly unless i wait a while before retrying
[01:20] <supertyco> but I cant ping out of my server
[01:20] <LiteHedded> how do I upgrade to 9.10?
[01:20] <supertyco> by IP or name
[01:20] <daleharvey> I have a list of packages, how do I generate install their checksums
[01:20] <FiReSTaRT> Plugh: sorry to hear that.. but at least it's a sign that they're fixing things up
[01:20] <andril> Karmic is nice
[01:20] <mage__> LiteHedded: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[01:20] <snowrichard> i am getting an acer aspire 1 netbook with the 3G wireless next week .  Do you like yours?
[01:20] <Diddleha> Go Karmic! Go Karmic! :)
[01:20] <heylala> I get a fishy looking "support for some applications ended" message including some pretty important packages when trying to upgrade. I've gotten it before when attempting to upgrade to 9.10 beta 4, and my system was unusable after it. What do I do?
[01:20] <xim_> how can i tell if my ubuntu is 64bit?
[01:20] <Plugh> It might be a problem with Pulse Audio. From what I've seen, I don't think its ready for prime time yet. My audio problems usually come back to that.
[01:20] <randal> stone1343,  i know i had 9.04 with remix but i had some bugs how can i add remix in synapic
[01:20] <mage__> heylala: what are yo upgrading from?
[01:20] <heylala> mage__: jaunty
[01:21] <mac9416> Plugh, I can't get XMPP to work, yet all empathy depends/recommends/suggesteds are installed.
[01:21] <Wincerind> chrass
[01:21] <andril> Snow is melting from my Mac
[01:21] <stone1343> randal it's just ubuntu-netbook-remix
[01:21] <LiteHedded> mage_: thanks
[01:21] <supertyco> but I cant ping out of my server
[01:21] <dr3mro> plz having issue with karmic i can use fn keys with f5 or f6 to change volume
[01:21] <supertyco> is there a routing config I am missing
 <bigfootbuilt><netrat><daleharvey> thanks for recommending "upgrade to 9:10)  let me give it a try
[01:21] <pooky1> no prob =P
[01:22] <Diddleha> supertyco: ping IP or DNS-address ?
[01:22] <FiReSTaRT> Plugh: now i can't wait to get to a tv with an hdmi port to see if hdmi sound will also work.. i can live without it (got pc speakers next to where i keep my laptop) but if i'm on a roll...... :P
[01:22] <heylala> mage__: gcc is even on the list...
[01:22] <Plugh> Oh, right. Empathy is the new IM client.
[01:22] <digital_1> Turns out karmic-alternate-amd64.iso (last daily build dated 10/27) was the release version?  The hash checksums match.
[01:22] <lagreca> hi friends
[01:22] <supertyco> Diddleha: neither works
[01:22] <lagreca> the ubuntu is great
[01:22] <randal> stone1343, thanks i found it 9.10 is awsome
[01:22] <Maximo> bbl...
[01:22] <supertyco> ping ip and name
[01:22] <lagreca> the new ubuntu is great
[01:22] <supertyco> I can ping internal
[01:22] <Diddleha> supertyco: traceroute www.google.com
[01:22] <stone1343> randal agreed 9.10 is awesome
[01:23] <Diddleha> supertyco: Does it reach google ?
[01:23] <dr3mro> plz having issue with karmic i can use fn keys with f5 or f6 to change volume
[01:23] <pooky1> yeah about empathy, someone as some feedback, pro/cons with pidgin ??? does the videocall works in msn now ?
[01:23] <digital_1> Is there a decent speed mirror to use for the updates?
[01:23] <Plugh> FiReSTaRT: speaking of TV, I can't get any audio from MythTV. Nothing from live TV and nothing from programs previously recorded with MythTV
[01:23] <lagreca> does anyone here get a false positive bad sector warning in palimpsest?
[01:23] <emagweb> Hi there. I need help. I have 2 PC with Ubuntu 9.10. How can I make LAN Network in Ubuntu.
[01:23] <supertyco> Diddleha: it resolves the name but does not get there
[01:23] <hipitihop> I have an ION 330 based karmic + mtythv setup... is there a way to monitor temperatures remotely ?
[01:23] <andorin> Will the software in the Resource Center that is "not available in the current data" eventually become downloadable? I want the real Xchat, not the Xchat GNOME replacement.
[01:23] <Diddleha> supertyco: Bad default gateway address
[01:23] <Plugh> Reminds me that I wanted to delete empathy. I'm happy with pidgin
[01:24] <heylala> Anyone have any recommendation?
[01:24] <randal> stone1343, i love what they did with the boot its so pretty lol
[01:24] <Royall> Is it possible to upgrade from an ISO (or some sort of torrent so it wouldn't take ages)
[01:24] <andorin> I also want Exaile, but it's listed as unavailable as well...
[01:24] <enjo451> I just upgraded to 9.10... wireless isn't working. It worked fine under Jaunty...
[01:24] <FiReSTaRT> Plugh: try plugging in pc speakers.. that did the trick when i was playing movies on my tv :P
[01:24] <Diddleha> supertyco: Setup your clients networking again.
[01:24] <supertyco> Diddleha: I used DHCP
[01:24] <snowrichard> plug each pc into ports on a router, hook the router to your dsl/cable modem or whatever
[01:24] <digital_1> Anyone know of a decent mirror for the updates?  Just grabbing the nVidia driver is taking minutes
[01:24] <Royall> as opposed to wiping and reinstalling
[01:24] <andril> i am glad that Karmic came out well - because Dedian is backing ChromeOS as well
[01:24] <FiReSTaRT> Plugh: well i'm off to sleep.. good luck with the sound issues :)
[01:24] <pooky1> Royall: the torrent is really fast ATM
[01:24] <enjo451> The broadcom proprietary driver is installed and shows up under 'hardware drivers'
[01:24] <lagreca> enjo451, do you have a dell notebook?
[01:24] <supertyco> Diddleha: all other computers on network can get out
[01:24] <enjo451> lagreca: yep
[01:24] <Royall> pooky1: But I mean I want to upgrade, not reinstall
[01:24] <heylala> digital_1: check in package sources, it can automatically find the fastest mirror for you
[01:24] <lagreca> i had the same problem
[01:24] <enjo451> please tell me you could fix it:)
[01:24] <Diddleha> supertyco: Its a client behind a router then, ok.
[01:24] <CavalierPrime> supertyco check your firewall rules
[01:24] <lagreca> let me see what I did
[01:24] <heylala> I get a fishy looking "support for some applications ended" message including some pretty important packages when trying to upgrade. I've gotten it before when attempting to upgrade to 9.10 beta 4, and my system was unusable after it. What do I do?
[01:25] <andril> my smb wont work
[01:25] <supertyco> Diddleha: yes behind a cisco asa 5510
[01:25] <Plugh> FiReSTaRT: I have speakers plugged in. I've checked audio output that is selected. All my other programs with sound work. No problem with sound from totem or gmplayer.
[01:25] <pooky1> royall ah oki sry
[01:25] <enjo451> I found a thread from a week or two ago about installing 'bcmwl-kernel-source'... but that's already installed
[01:25] <Diddleha> supertyco: /etc/resolv.conf is ok ?
[01:25] <Plugh> FiReSTaRT: I'm going to rebuild mythtv without support for pulseaudio and see if that makes a difference.
[01:25] <hipitihop> Royall: if you get a response pls pm me
[01:25] <supertyco> Diddleha: yes
[01:25] <lagreca> i was gonna tell u to install it
[01:25] <Diddleha> supertyco: proxy settings ok ?
[01:25] <jumbers> So I was doing my upgrade via SSH and got disconnected in the middle when a package was prompting me for information. Now what am I supposed to do?
[01:26] <supertyco> Diddleha: no proxy
[01:26] <Cyboth> hey guys, am I the only one experiencing problems with installing Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix? from the boot I select Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, I see the ubuntu logo and then my screen goes black (I have an Aspire One)
[01:26] <jumbers> When I try to rerun do-release-upgrade, it just says to me "Unable to get exclusive lock"
[01:26] <andorin> Will the software in the Resource Center that is "not available in the current data" eventually become downloadable? I want the real Xchat, not the Xchat GNOME replacement.
[01:26] <Diddleha> supertyco: Ok, hmm...
[01:26] <stone1343> cyboth i just did it on my aao
[01:26] <hipitihop> jumbers: if use use 'screen' it would allow you to recnnect and continue the session. not sure what you do now though sorry
[01:26] <Cyboth> worked fine?
[01:26] <Diddleha> supertyco: "route" and see if it differs from the rest of your computers
[01:26] <stone1343> cyboth yep, usding it now
[01:26] <supertyco> ok
[01:27] <Cyboth> hmm, and all you did was make a bootable usb and installed it?
[01:27] <lagreca> friends, does anyone here get a false positive bad sector warning in palimpsest?
[01:27] <heylala> I get a fishy looking "support for some applications ended" message including some pretty important packages when trying to upgrade. I've gotten it before when attempting to upgrade to 9.10 beta 4, and my system was unusable after it. Recommendations?
[01:27] <stone1343> cyboth i always select 'use without changing system', so i can connect to my wireless
[01:27] <supertyco> Diddleha: this does not look right
[01:27] <supertyco> Diddleha: <IP_ADDRESS>        *               <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth0
[01:28] <stone1343> cyboth yes, bootable usb made with usb creator
[01:28] <bostongeek24> how do i install my graphics driver
[01:28] <stone1343> cyboth brb
[01:28] <Cyboth> k, ill try with a different usb key I guess, thanks
[01:28] <Cyboth> k
[01:28] <mattperry> lagreca I got that too
[01:28] <bostongeek24> the one that came with 9.10 i think is bugged it causes the screen to flicker
[01:28] <bostongeek24> i downloaded the driver from intel i have a msi wind
[01:28] <Diddleha> supertyco: Its the client LAN (10.0.1. 0-254) ?
[01:29] <Plugh> bostongeek24: what drivers are you trying to use?
[01:29] <lagreca> mattperry, what did you do in order to solve this bug?
[01:29] <supertyco> Diddleha: yes
[01:29] <Diddleha> supertyco: route | grep -i "UG"
[01:29] <CavalierPrime> supertyco  looks ok, cept do you have a "default"  line below that?
[01:29] <andorin> Will the software in the Resource Center that is "not available in the current data" eventually become downloadable? I want the real Xchat, not the Xchat GNOME replacement.
[01:29] <Amanieu> In 9.04 I could control my laptop speaker volume independantly from my headphone jack volume, but in 9.10 there is only a single volume control option for both, which uses headphones when they are plugged in or speakers otherwise. Is there a way to get the old behavior back?
[01:29] <iuri> hi there, does anyone here know about amend src files of an applications
[01:29] <iuri> i want to put some printfs in the wget source and see the string when i run the command wget  http...
[01:29] <plitter> hey, i installed 9.10 and suddenly it threw me to the command line.... how can i get back to the gui? i am in the gui through the cd now.... so i know it is supposed to work
[01:30] <supertyco> Diddleha: default         <IP_ADDRESS>        <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[01:30] <andril> anyone know if Pulse Audio has issues I have no sound
[01:30] <stone1343> cyboth, do you have the aao with SSD?
[01:30] <Cyboth> yes
[01:30] <Cyboth> 160g
[01:30] <stone1343> cyboth, not the 160G is a regular hard disk
[01:30] <mnaines> Hey...New recommendation for ya'll.  Check out "The Official Ubuntu Book"
[01:30] <Diddleha> supertyco: <IP_ADDRESS> is your router ?
[01:30] <mattperry> anyone else having trouble upgrading from ubuntu repos?
[01:30] <ripps> andril: http://drowninginbugs.blogspot.com/2009/10/caveats-for-audio-in-910.html if none of those work, file a bug with `ubuntu-bug pulseaudio`
[01:30] <stone1343> cyboth, i th
[01:31] <CavalierPrime> looks backwards
[01:31] <Cyboth> oh yea, sry
[01:31] <thiebaude> mnaines, you got a link?
[01:31] <supertyco> Diddleha: default         <IP_ADDRESS>        <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[01:31] <stone1343> cyboth, ok cuz if you havd the ssd, i had a suggestion
[01:31] <mnaines> thiebaude: Its a physical book.  No link.
[01:31] <andril> ripps: thanks
[01:31] <thiebaude> mnaines, ahh, ok
[01:31] <bostongeek24> how do i install the video driver for intel p945 chipet
[01:31] <mnaines> thiebaude: $34.99 at Borders
[01:31] <Cyboth> kk, well, I have another usb key here, i'll try that, I dunno whats going on
[01:31] <stone1343> cyboth, anyway the live usb worked fine, so maybe it's your drive, like you suggested
[01:32] <szed> is there a tool to select the fastest mirror for ubunt via terminal?
[01:32] <Cyboth> thanks for the help
[01:32] <stone1343> cyboth np
[01:32] <johnboker> does anyone in here know anything about the i965 white screen problem ?
[01:32] <xxaaronxx> CAn i have some help in a private chat?
[01:32] <CavalierPrime> supertyco:  you can always try  sudo service networking restart
[01:32] <mnaines> xxaaronxx: Ask here.  We don't do private chats
[01:32] <Royall> About 4 hours remaining
[01:32] <bpun> there exfat driver?  does anybody know about this site? http://www.tuxera.com/products/exfat-for-embedded-systems/
[01:32] <Royall> About 5 hours remaining
[01:32] <mickster04> Royall, till wat?
[01:33] <bostongeek24> can someone help me??
[01:33] <supertyco> Cav: what will that do? wont it just set the same settings again
[01:33] <Royall> Till I get my damn update packages
[01:33] <Royall> er
[01:33] <Royall> sorry
[01:33] <mnaines> !ask | bostongeek24
[01:33] <mac9416> Hello, when trying to connect to Gtalk in empathy I get a "Network Error". Any ideas?
[01:33] <xxaaronxx> Oh, well i need to update from my current version, to8.04LTS
[01:33] <bostongeek24> i did
[01:33] <xxaaronxx> and i have no clue how with out using the cd, they are in a datacenter
[01:33] <mickster04> xxaaronxx, cant you download that?
[01:33] <xxaaronxx> and i cant get a cd and stick it in there
[01:33] <CavalierPrime> supertyco:  it may sort itself out, may not   but won't hurt to try it
[01:33] <bostongeek24> how do i install the graphics driver for intel p945 chipset
[01:33]  * xrandr wonders why he only gets 1mbps on his wireless connection
[01:34] <plitter> hey, i installed 9.10 and suddenly it threw me to the command line.... how can i get back to the gui? i am in the gui through the cd now.... so i know it is supposed to work and i dont want to have to install it again....
[01:34] <enjo451> Well that didn't work... I"m still having serious issues getting wireless to work on my dell laptop
[01:34] <mnaines> xrandr: That happens to me on the RT2500PCI drivers for my Linksys card.  There is no solution that I know of.
[01:34] <enjo451> broadcom card
[01:34] <andorin> Will the software in the Resource Center that is "not available in the current data" eventually become downloadable? I want the real Xchat, not the Xchat GNOME replacement.
[01:34] <cipherz> hello, I am trying to get unr 9.10 on my usb stick using the instructions from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[01:34] <Diddleha> supertyco: Hows it goings ?
[01:34] <stone1343> xxaaronxx you can burn the iso to a flash drive using USB creator
[01:34] <Andisu> hi anybody can help me?
[01:34] <xrandr> mnaines: i have a netgear WPN311NA card
[01:34] <mickster04> plitter, it's supposed to work by itself, try pressing ctrl+alt+f7(or 6)
[01:35] <supertyco> Diddleha: default         <IP_ADDRESS>        <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[01:35] <Andisu> i´ve installing ubuntu 9 in my notebook
[01:35] <enjo451> I tried installing bcmwl-kernel-source (sudo apt-get install bcmw-kernel-source), but that doesn't really help
[01:35] <mnaines> thiebaude: Can I PM you?
[01:35] <cipherz> I cant get it to boot on it tho :/ i can see activity on the usb stick but then it fails to boot, tried booting the grub cmd from the already installed linux and it says bad partition table for the usb stick ( did it using dd if=iso of=/dev/devicenode bs=1M)
[01:35] <enjo451> just upgraded to 9.10
[01:35] <Andisu> but when i try to enter by grub, the computer restart
[01:35] <Diddleha> supertyco: Yah ? :)
[01:35] <enjo451> what are my options here
[01:35] <enjo451> ?
[01:35] <bostongeek24> does anyone know?
[01:35] <Sanchez> I want to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, and I need to export my private and public keys from Seahorse.  Highlighting a key and clicking "export" only seems to export the public key.  How can I export all the keys so I can import them again after upgrading?
[01:35] <supertyco> Diddleha: no luck still cant get out
[01:35] <xxaaronxx> So how can i upgrade from my current version to 8.04 LTS without puting a cd in the tray?
[01:35] <mickster04> bostongeek24, try just to keep your question to one liners, otherwise people get confused....
[01:36] <heylala> I get a fishy looking "support for some applications ended" message including some pretty important packages when trying to upgrade. I've gotten it before when attempting to upgrade to 9.10 beta 4, and my system was unusable after it. Recommendations?
[01:36] <stone1343> xxaaronxx should be able to
[01:36] <bostongeek24> ok
[01:36] <CavalierPrime> supertyco: sounds like a DNS issue or firewall rule
[01:36] <Diddleha> supertyco: Ping the primary DNS.
[01:36] <bostongeek24> for the 4th time
[01:36] <Royall> anyone have tips on increasing the download speed while you're downloading
[01:36] <johnboker> I just updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and upon booting for the first time the screen is completely white, then single pixel colored vertical lines start to appear.  I've looked for the past 2 hours and have found no real answers on how to fix this problem. here is more information on the issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/297245
[01:36] <sweetandy> Royall: Torrent it
[01:36] <bostongeek24> how do i install the graphics driver for intel p945 chipset
[01:36] <hanzomon4> Pizza helps with the download speed
[01:36] <plitter> mickster04: that just sort of changes the "terminal".... tried startx, /etc/init.d/gdm restart and /etc/init.d/xdm restart....
[01:36] <hanzomon4> Really just watch some tv
[01:36] <mickster04> plitter, sounds like its a broken install if non of that works:/
[01:37] <supertyco> Diddleha: 100% loss
[01:37] <plitter> mickster04: so i have to install it from scratch?
[01:37] <mikechelen> heylala, that warning didn't bother me since it mentioned they would only be removed if multiverse wasn't enabled, but if it caused probs for you before idk
[01:37] <Diddleha> supertyco: Ping the router
[01:37] <Andisu> hi, i install the Ubuntu 9, but when i choose ubuntu 9 in grub, my computer restart, anybody can help me?
[01:37] <supertyco> Diddleha: get a reply
[01:37] <lstarnes> Andisu: 9.04 or 9.10?
[01:38] <Sanchez> I want to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, and I need to export my private and public keys from Seahorse.  Highlighting a key and clicking "export" only seems to export the public key.  How can I export all the keys so I can import them again after upgrading?
[01:38] <Diddleha> supertyco: Fett tycho lixom
[01:38] <supertyco> Diddleha: ?
[01:38] <Andisu> [lstarnes]: 9.04
[01:38] <heylala> mikechelen: I had multiverse enabled as well. Still upgraded me to a relatively borked install (no desktop background, and messed up X). Oh well. I'll take a shot at it anyhow. *Flips Coin* Thanks.
[01:38] <Diddleha> nm
[01:38] <axisys> what channel do I talk about compiz
[01:38] <axisys> ?
[01:38] <Whitor>  #compiz
[01:38] <bostongeek24> anyone??
[01:38] <axisys> Whitor: thanks
[01:38] <CavalierPrime> supertyco:  nslookup your dns server
[01:38] <lstarnes> Andisu: I don't know what would cause that.  someone else might
[01:38] <Diddleha> supertyco: Do you have several subnets on the LAN ?
[01:39] <mikechelen> heylala, strange, it doesn't seem like any of the main gnome packages would stop being included. did anything else go wrong that time?
[01:39] <supertyco> Cav: I cant get out of the network
[01:39] <Yos> How can I force a program to close, like firefox ?
[01:39] <bostongeek24> ??
[01:39] <supertyco> Diddleha: No
[01:39] <Mike_lifeguard> Instead of waiting for overloaded servers, could I upgrade mysql from a karmic ISO?
[01:39] <daleharvey> kill all firefox
[01:39] <daleharvey> *killall
[01:39] <Mike_lifeguard> (not the alternate CD)
[01:39] <sweetandy> Yos: Open up a terminal, type in "sudo killall firefox-bin"
[01:39] <supertyco> its a routing issue I just cant figure out what it is
[01:39] <stone1343> yos i use system monitor
[01:39] <Mike_lifeguard> it'd be a full server iso
[01:39] <CavalierPrime> supertyco: nslookup your router
[01:39] <bigfootbuilt>  YOS CNTL-ALT-\ key
[01:39] <bostongeek24> hello??
[01:39] <Yos> thanks
[01:39] <DB42> does http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%3Cb%90%96%E7%26%D5%281%B2%F9%AF%95%07%27%7B6%F6%22%12 (the dvd) work for anyone ?
[01:39] <lstarnes> Yos: try killall name or pkill na,e
[01:39] <lstarnes> *name
[01:39] <Andisu> lstarnes when i select the location, the time is wrong (-2 hours)
[01:39] <heylala> mikechelen: not as far as I saw. Most of the packages on the list had to do with Qt, which was weird. This time gcc is on the list which is weirder. I didn't catch any error messages last time though during install, no.
[01:39] <andorin> Will the software in the Resource Center that is "not available in the current data" eventually become downloadable? I want the real Xchat, not the Xchat GNOME replacement.
[01:40] <lstarnes> Andisu: your computer's hardware clock may be off
[01:40] <johnboker> nobody has any answers for the issue im having?
[01:40] <Andisu> |lstarnes|: how to i turn on?
[01:40] <sweetandy> bostongeek24: type in "apt-cache search xserver-xorg", and then add the package that contains your driver
[01:40] <Whitor> Anyone have any idea why I don't have the ability to enable any proprietary drivers in Administration -> Hardware Drivers ?  ... in 9.04 I could enable Nvidia drivers (180)
[01:40] <supertyco> Cav: what does nslookup have to do with routing
[01:40] <Diddleha> supertyco: Cisco ASA... got special rules for this client in it or so ?
[01:40] <MiLLo> hey - would anyone be willing to give me a hand with issues with installing ubuntu?
[01:40] <mickster04> plitter, sounds like, when u use the live disk, run from it, without making cahnges then use the installer from that desktop
[01:40] <dksoba88> can I modify grub.cfg safely by moving around code blocks? It says don't edit but I want to remove and reorder some items
[01:40] <lstarnes> Andisu: I don't mean "off" as in "not enabled" or "not operating"
[01:40] <heylala> MiLLo: ask
[01:40] <CavalierPrime> tells me if your router is serving up dns correctly
[01:40] <dksoba88> (running 9.10 now just for reference)
[01:40] <lstarnes> Andisu: I mean "off" as in "not correct"
[01:40] <randal> c
[01:40] <supertyco> Didd: no its just another computer behind the network
[01:40] <heylala> johnboker: ask again didn't catch it
[01:41] <johnboker> I just updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and upon booting for the first time the screen is completely white, then single pixel colored vertical lines start to appear.  I've looked for the past 2 hours and have found no real answers on how to fix this problem. here is more information on the issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/297245
[01:41] <mickster04> johnboker, please keep your questions on one line, i cant find ur problem as an example
[01:41] <Whitor> Are the proprietary Nvidia video card drivers available for 9.10 ?
[01:41] <lstarnes> Whitor: they should be
[01:41] <mickster04> johnboker, thanks
[01:41] <johnboker> yup
[01:41] <randal> Hi i just upgraded to the new netbook remix and i want to switch it to classic mode but i cant figure it out plz help thanks
[01:41] <MiLLo> I've just downloaded the latest ubuntu, from the website, loaded to cd - no probs.  put in laptop, told it to boot from cd - it reboots, loads 2 lines regarding ubuntu (for less than a second), then reboots the pc - this is a continuous (and seemingly indefinite) process
[01:41] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Dont :)
[01:41] <hanzomon4> edit /etc/defaults/grub
[01:42] <Andisu> lstarnes ok i will try access the bios and enable something like this
[01:42] <mikechelen> MiLLo, try alternate install cd
[01:42] <lstarnes> Andisu: there is nothing to enable
[01:42] <johnboker> mickster04, 9.04 worked fine, suse had this same issue
[01:42] <heylala> MiLLo: try the alt install
[01:42] <mickster04> randal, if u find out let me know, i think u may have to install the desktop version?
[01:42] <jayferd> Hey guys - I'm running into problems trying to combine squashfs with unionfs-fuse to create extra space on my 4G eeepc.  I think I just need a quick tip.
[01:42] <jayferd> details: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/304705/
[01:42] <Andisu> [[lstarnes]]: uhn ok
[01:42] <lstarnes> Andisu: you just need to change your clock's settings
[01:42] <lstarnes> Andisu: ubuntu can change the clock for you
[01:42] <Andisu> [(lstarnes)]: no
[01:42] <CavalierPrime> supertyco:  also do a sudo ufw status, if it is enabled, sudo ufw disable and try it then
[01:42] <stone1343> randal you don't like netbook remix?
 MiLLo, try alternate install cd - such as/where from?
[01:42] <Andisu> lstarnes my ubuntu can`t start
[01:42] <lstarnes> Andisu: do you have another OS?
[01:42] <DB42> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=EolYj%1C%AF%3Bt%0E%B5%95%82%89b%5BJR%04%29 <-- why isn't this torrent working for me ? utorrent says it's an invalid file (ubuntu-9.10-dvd-amd64.iso) ?!?!?!?!?!
[01:42] <Andisu> when i choose ubuntu the computer restar
[01:43] <Andisu> yes
[01:43] <dksoba88> hanzomon4, thanks
[01:43] <Andisu> lstarnes windows 7
[01:43] <mikechelen> heylala, weird, i said okay at the warning too, will let you know in a couple hours if it worked okay :D
[01:43] <randal> stone1343, i like it but i also like the classic way and cant figure out how to switch on the old remix you were able too
[01:43] <Whitor> lstarnes, interesting. They are not. I'd like to get compiz going, but can't until I get my video card drivers going
[01:43] <stone1343> randal i don't remember off the top of my head
[01:43] <Random832> how do i change the icons in openoffice?
[01:43] <Random832> it just doesn't work, it keeps going back to Human
[01:43] <Roasted> Sup guys - I installed 9.10 just now. I have 4 drives in my system. My pair of 250gb drives are showing up as "nvidia_raid_member" and I have NO idea why. I'm trying to mount these drives but nothing is working. "device does not exist"
[01:43] <lstarnes> Andisu: windows and linux use the hardware clock differently
[01:43] <kevin009> hello, i think i'm having the file corruption bug on 9.10 with ext4
[01:43] <dksoba88> hanzomon4, but wait a minute... /etc/default/grub doesn't have all my listings in it
[01:43] <randal> stone1343, there use to be a setting you could change but i cant find it on this new one
[01:44] <lstarnes> Andisu: one expects it to be local time, the other expects it to be UTC/GMT
[01:44] <SeaPhor> Whitor, have you updated yet?
[01:44] <heylala> mikechelen: yeah...me too. about 5 hours heh. Unless I get impatient and cancel and reinstall from CD. Even odder is that the list of package changes on the screen right afterwards doesn't list the same packages for removal (actually it does for bluez but I think bluez actually has been replaced). We'll see how it goes I guess.
[01:44] <kevin009> if i copy a large file like the windows 7 rc image from my external hdd to the internal one and then run a diff after, they are different
[01:44] <kevin009> likewise with md5sum
[01:44] <randal> stone1343, im staring to think you cant
[01:44] <Whitor> SeaPhor, Yeah, Update manager says my system is up to date
[01:44]  * xrandr curses his wireless connection
[01:45] <DB42> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=EolYj%1C%AF%3Bt%0E%B5%95%82%89b%5BJR%04%29 <-- why isn't this torrent working for me ? utorrent says it's an invalid file (ubuntu-9.10-dvd-amd64.iso) ?!?!?!?!?!
[01:45] <Victory444> I have a question about IP addreses.  I purchased a vps yesterday. the IP of the companies website traces to Canada, the IP of my vps traces to Romania, the nameservers are in the Netherlands, and their datacenter, the PHYSICAL server, is in the USA. is that legal? O_O
[01:45] <Andisu> lstarnes uhn..
[01:45] <MiLLo> sorry guys - i'm fairly new to ubuntu etc. where do i find the alt cd/install?
[01:45] <stone1343> randal pretty sure i did with an earlier build