[06:04] <leo_rockw> baudthief: lsb_release -a
[06:04] <Odd-rationale> Leeuw: Google Summer of Code
[06:04] <chrisrogers> Odd-rationale: LMAO
[06:04] <Leeuw> Odd-rationale: ok
[06:04] <baudthief> leo_rockw: cool, thanks... I'm running 8.04
[06:04] <baudthief> yay? :P
[06:05] <leo_rockw> HUDMeister: next time don't hard reset again, next time use the raising elephants method
[06:05] <chrisrogers> leo_rockw: raising elephants?
[06:05] <HUDMeister> what is the raising elephants method, and how can i recover my system?
[06:05] <Odd-rationale> rseiub
[06:05] <Leeuw> Odd-rationale: leo_rockw, what;s the problem with kde4 now ?
[06:05] <leo_rockw> chrisrogers: that's my blog's name too :-P raising elephants is so utterly boring is a mnemonic rule
[06:05] <Odd-rationale> Leeuw: it is stable. it is just not complete
[06:05] <flaccid> chrisrogers: so whats the current problem?
[06:06] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: there are some things you can't configure. some apps are not even ported yet
[06:06] <Odd-rationale> Leeuw: http://code.google.com/soc/2008/
[06:06] <chrisrogers> flaccid: nothing right now, still installing all the components for compiz
[06:06] <leo_rockw> chrisrogers: it's a way to turn off your comp without breaking anything. alt + sys req + reisub
[06:06] <Leeuw> Odd-rationale: what's missin that's important ?   (think it's answered, thanx for link !
[06:06] <flaccid> chrisrogers: coolio
[06:06] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: amarok2 !
[06:06] <chrisrogers> leo_rockw: what is reisub?
[06:07] <Leeuw> leo_rockw: doesn' t amarok 1 run n it ?
[06:07] <leo_rockw> chrisrogers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Raising_Elephants
[06:07] <Odd-rationale> Leeuw: adept, guidance-power-manager konversation, amarok2, etc...
[06:07] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: yup
[06:07] <GothicD3vil> Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950
[06:07] <Leeuw> Odd-rationale: leo_rockw hm...   how fast are these people ?
[06:08] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: 4.1 should be out in july or so, 4.2 should be out in december/january
[06:08] <GothicD3vil> leo_rockw: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 with 8MB-128MB dynamically
[06:08] <GothicD3vil> allocated shared graphics memory
[06:08] <Leeuw> leo_rockw: I' ll get it for my birthday then July...
[06:08] <GothicD3vil> is a laptop
[06:08] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: 4.1 should be good enough for dailiy use, 4.2 should be good enough to ditch 3.5 and switch to kde4 completely
[06:08] <Mikau> hey guys... thank you very much... i can now open mp3
[06:08] <Leeuw> leo_rockw: might chack it out thou
[06:09] <leo_rockw> Mikau: don't forget about those ogg, tho. jamendo rocks
[06:09] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: yeah, i installed it a while ago to try it, it's really good but it needs more work done
[06:09] <leo_rockw> GothicD3vil: nvidia's are better for compiz
[06:09] <Mikau> leo_rockw:
[06:09] <Mikau> leo_rockw: ok
[06:09] <Leeuw> Mikau: did you get it going ?
[06:09] <leo_rockw> Mikau: and jamendo ships mp3s too
[06:09] <Mikau> Leeuw: yeah
[06:09] <HUDMeister> how can i recover from an endless "attempt to access beyond end of device" during bootup?
[06:10] <Mikau> leo_rockw: rigth! can you tell me again that guy's blog
[06:10] <Leeuw> Mikau: I see you did, great !   welcome to the world of building yer box !
[06:10] <Mikau> leo_rockw: the one who lives in japan...
[06:10] <flaccid> HUDMeister: never seen that. try google?
[06:10] <leo_rockw> HUDMeister: try using the live cd and running a disk check
[06:10] <Mikau> Leeuw: 10x
[06:10] <leo_rockw> Mikau: http://kmandla.wordpress.com
[06:10] <HUDMeister> tried google...  i cant find anyone that has the problem during boot up
[06:10] <leo_rockw> Mikau: idk if he has the answer there, he might, but i'm not positive
[06:11] <Mikau> leo_rockw: ok
[06:11] <leo_rockw> Mikau: just remember that google is your friend too
[06:11] <Mikau> leo_rockw: and, again, what is that program name?
[06:11] <Mikau> leo_rockw: sc something..
[06:11] <ronnie> Is x86 same thing i386, to install on older desktops?
[06:12] <Leeuw> Mikau: scim
[06:12] <leo_rockw> GothicD3vil: just one thing... don't switch to gnu/linux just for the eye candy... you'll be disappointed
[06:12] <Leeuw> !scim
[06:12] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[06:12] <leo_rockw> Mikau: what Leeuw said
[06:12] <Leeuw> hey ?!?
[06:12] <Leeuw> suhweet
[06:12] <leo_rockw> !info scim
[06:12] <ubotu> scim (source: scim): smart common input method platform. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.7-3ubuntu8 (hardy), package size 718 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[06:12] <Mikau> leo_rockw: ok
[06:12] <Mikau> Leeuw: thanks
[06:12] <Leeuw> coffee, anyone ?
[06:13] <leo_rockw> !cookie
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <leo_rockw> boo
[06:13] <Leeuw> 7:15 am here...
[06:13] <leo_rockw> 2:13 am
[06:13] <Odd-rationale> !botsnack
[06:13] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:13] <leo_rockw> Odd-rationale: thanks :-)
[06:13] <Odd-rationale> !helpsnack | leo_rockw
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helpsnack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <Odd-rationale> !helpersnack | leo_rockw
[06:13] <ubotu> leo_rockw: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[06:14] <leo_rockw> haha, i didn't know that one
[06:14] <chrisrogers> #compiz
[06:15] <Mikau> wow... adept is now working.. xD
[06:15] <Mikau> ---installing scim
[06:17] <chrisrogers> compiz isn't working now
[06:17] <Leeuw> nice wizza coffe, that ubotu-cookie... where is it though, it's not in the cookie-jar... ?!?
[06:18] <Leeuw> leo_rockw: you' re late, I' m early..
[06:18] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: i should be sleeping, flisol is tomorrow
[06:18] <Leeuw> leo what's flisol ?
[06:18] <leo_rockw> latin american festival of software libre installation
[06:19] <leo_rockw> a huge install fest
[06:19] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: it's happening in many cities of southamerika
[06:19] <Mikau> hey guys... i'm leaving now..
[06:19] <Leeuw> leo_rockw: wow !
[06:19] <Mikau> here it's 2:20 AM
[06:19] <Mikau> xD
[06:19] <Mikau> cya
[06:19] <Leeuw> Mikau:  bye, take care !
[06:19] <Mikau> u2
[06:20] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: this is a list of all the cities involved: http://www.installfest.net/FLISOL2008/Ciudades
[06:21] <Leeuw> leo_rockw: welll , I' ll be there in spirit; have some new old p4 to tst, and maybe build a new xtra rig wizzit...
[06:22] <Leeuw> leo_rockw: man !   That' s some party...   And all the rooms are in a chat or on the net or so ?
[06:22] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: it's my first time in an install fest. i hope i don't destroy somebody's harddrive :-P
[06:22] <Leeuw> leo_rockw: lol
[06:22] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: no, we gather
[06:22] <Leeuw>  <glupek>
[06:22] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: like, in real life
[06:23] <Leeuw> by th way, do you get the puinguin ?   or yer own theme ?
[06:23] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: all those cities will have an event where people take their computers too
[06:23] <ISS_Student> I wish they would have an install fest here in Salt Lake City
[06:23] <Leeuw> leo_rockw: dif' rent types event ?
[06:23] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: just one install fest event per city listed
[06:23] <Leeuw> ISS_Student: yeah, me too, her in Amsterdam would be nize
[06:24] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: there will be stands of different distros and some lectures too
[06:24] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: i'll be in the ubuntu-ar stand, as always
[06:24] <ISS_Student> Or even a Ubuntu users group would be nice.
[06:24] <Leeuw> leo_rockw:  should be fun...   ubuntu-ar issa... ?
[06:24] <Leeuw> argentina ?
[06:24] <ISS_Student> I've gotten a few people at school (ITT-Tech) runing on Ubuntu
[06:24] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: exactly, the biggest ubuntu local community team
[06:25] <Leeuw> leo_rockw: so I heard... in america or the woild ?
[06:25] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: we had a party on thursday in my city for the hardy release.
[06:25] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: in the world, except for the US of course
[06:25] <leo_rockw> the US has the local community teams divided by states
[06:26] <Leeuw> ISS_Student: are you sure there' s no group in SLC ?
[06:26] <Odd-rationale> the us is part of the world
[06:26] <Odd-rationale> ...
[06:26] <leo_rockw> Odd-rationale: but the US has the local community teams by states, not just a big one for the whole country
[06:26] <ISS_Student> Leeuw I heard there is supposed to be one but I can't find there meetin times and location
[06:27] <Odd-rationale> I'm in #ubuntu-dallas only 7 peeps (including ChanServ)
[06:27] <leo_rockw> we usually hang out on irc, the forums and the mailing list
[06:27] <Leeuw> ISS_Student: I just googled ubuntu salt lake city, got: Ubuntu Utah Gutsy Release Party  in salt lake city, wAS 2007, BUT SEEMS THERE is A GROUP IN THE VINCINITY.. ?!!
[06:27] <leo_rockw> our mailing list is huge!
[06:27] <Leeuw> SORRY FER CAPSLOCK FOLKS
[06:27] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: caps are autopilot for leetness :-P
[06:28] <chrisrogers> flaccid: how do i remove this driver
[06:28] <ISS_Student> Hmm there is a Ubuntu-UT channel
[06:28] <chrisrogers> flaccid: how do i remove this driver
[06:28] <flaccid> dont know.
[06:29] <chrisrogers> i'm tired of it
[06:29] <flaccid> did you read the doco from ati, chrisrogers?
[06:29] <leo_rockw> chrisrogers: there might be a script in /etc/ati
[06:29] <chrisrogers> flaccid: yes
[06:29] <chrisrogers> flaccid: wait what?
[06:29] <flaccid> well im still waiting for you to report specific problems
[06:29] <leo_rockw> chrisrogers: depending on the version...
[06:29] <flaccid> instead of being 'tired of it'
[06:29] <Leeuw> ISS_Student: it 's called 'The Ubuntu Utah LoCo team' party was at Paradise Cafe, 618 East 400 South Salt Lake City UT 84102.   That info should get you their adress on the long run ?
[06:30] <chrisrogers> well let's see, i can't move windows, scroll smoothly and every time i install and enable compiz it turns the whole screen white
[06:30] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: well, there might not be an address... (i mean, physical one) ubuntu-ar doesn't have any headquarters
[06:30] <flaccid> and you blame the driver. did you ever think the problem is compiz-fusion or that maybe logs should be checked?
[06:30] <Leeuw> ISS_Student: go to ubuntu wiki, search for utah, you 'll find a page of' m
[06:30] <chrisrogers> flaccid: i don't f-ing know i'm getting tired of working on this for 3 day
[06:30] <chrisrogers> flaccid: s
[06:31] <flaccid> then give up. i mean there is two options here. persist or give up..
[06:31] <flaccid> thats how linux is usually
[06:31] <Leeuw> leo_rockw: makes sense...   with internet you don' t need a building anymore...
[06:32] <Leeuw> leo_rockw: still I would not like to sleep on the net..   glad I have a building..
[06:32] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: it'd probably be too noisy
[06:32] <chrisrogers> flaccid: so what can i do, except revert to the original driver that came on there when i installed Kubuntu
[06:32] <Leeuw> leo_rockw: the beeping, man the beeeeping alllll the time; drives ya nuts
[06:32] <chrisrogers> flaccid: vega or something
[06:33] <flaccid> chrisrogers: no. lets look at the problem closer instead of making assumptions!
[06:33] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: well, considering the net is like 90% pr0n... i would like to stay there for a night
[06:33] <chrisrogers> flaccid: i don't think i could get any closer than i have, my gf is getting pissed at me for sitting here working on this for so long and i'm getting tired of it
[06:33] <Leeuw> leo_rockw: yeah, but it's all silicon...
[06:34] <leo_rockw> Leeuw: silicon valley lol
[06:34] <Leeuw> leo right
[06:34] <flaccid> chrisrogers: welcome to linux.
[06:34] <chrisrogers> flaccid: vesa that's it
[06:34] <Odd-rationale> chrisrogers: as they say, you can only have a gf or linux. not both ;)
[06:34] <chrisrogers> flaccid: i've been on linux for a while and never had this much problems
[06:34] <leo_rockw> chrisrogers: you can't have a g/f and linux... we use linux cuz we have no g/fs! :-P
[06:34] <flaccid> ts up to you if you wanna cite logs etc. or just give up
[06:34] <flaccid> chrisrogers: ive been on it probably longer and this is nothing compared to other problems
[06:34] <chrisrogers> flaccid: well i have both and i want to keep both
[06:35] <Odd-rationale> chrisrogers: good luck!
[06:35] <chrisrogers> flaccid: i'm switching back to vesa driver
[06:35] <leo_rockw> chrisrogers: i heard linspire will help you w/ that
[06:35] <amit> can't play videos in Kaffeine.. have installed all the required codecs... all i get is a blue screen
[06:36] <flaccid> chrisrogers: if thats the case you will probably have better performance with the "radeon" driver
[06:36] <Odd-rationale> amit: what type if file?
[06:36] <amit> .avi
[06:36] <amit> i have put the Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" in the device section of xorg.conf as told on the xine website
[06:37] <amit> Odd-rationale: also, i have tried the xshm driver and it works fine, but its very slow
[06:39] <chrisrogers> flaccid: so... now what
[06:39] <Odd-rationale> amit: hmm. strange. I didn't need to do anything special after install kubuntu-restricted-extras...
[06:39] <flaccid> chrisrogers: have a beer?
[06:39] <chrisrogers> flaccid: more like a cigerette, i don't drink
[06:42] <flaccid> cool
[06:44] <chrisrogers> flaccid: no beer, no video, i'm screwed
[06:44] <chrisrogers> flaccid: this sux
[06:44] <flaccid> its pretty common
[06:44] <leo_rockw> chrisrogers: i know this won't make you any happier, but keep in mind this is ati's fault and not gnu/linux
[06:45] <chrisrogers> leo_rockw: :@ no... it dosn't make me any happier
[06:47] <ISS_Student> Is it possible to play blu-ray dvd's in Kubuntu 8.04
[06:48] <chrisrogers> leo_rockw: but here's how i look at it, gnu/linux just relased this version of kubuntu and this card has been out for a while, so they should support it already
[06:48] <leo_rockw> chrisrogers: if you have the specs of the card i'll get someone to code the drivers for us
[06:48] <chrisrogers> leo_rockw: are you serious or being sarcastic?
[06:49] <leo_rockw> chrisrogers: the latter
[06:49] <chrisrogers> leo_rockw: figured as much
[06:49] <flaccid> i would contact ati/amd because it thought they were taking linux support more seriously now
[06:50] <leo_rockw> flaccid: they are actually. last year the drivers were the biggest crap in the world
[06:50] <chrisrogers> ok, i'll try that
[06:50] <flaccid> well the new cards (which i thought) the HD2* series were to get the new driver with good support iirc. do some research i guess
[06:50] <leo_rockw> feisty's live cd didn't even boot on my comp... i had to do a hack
[06:51] <leo_rockw> flaccid: amd released some of the specs, so there should be a good open driver soon
[06:51] <weswh-> does anyone have a problem where video (like xvid) has all kinds of 'tearing' in high movement scenes?
[06:52] <flaccid> rightio, wonder when this driver is actually going to be released instead of being talked about...
[06:52] <weswh-> happens in every player for me, kaffeine, mplayer...it's not unwatchable...i get by
[06:52] <weswh-> but, very frustrating. has been this way for a year or so...i'm still on feisty. everytime a new nvidia driver comes out i cross my fingers
[06:52] <weswh-> my brothers system (ubuntu not kubuntu) does the same thing
[06:53] <chrisrogers> i'm removing kubuntu from my computer and just using vista, i get full 3d graphics support on there at least
[06:53] <leo_rockw> flaccid: yeah... i hope we get those drivers before the end of the year
[06:53] <leo_rockw> chrisrogers: glhf
[06:54] <chrisrogers> glhf?
[06:54] <nexano> good luck have fun
[06:54] <chrisrogers> oh
[06:54] <leo_rockw> chrisrogers: say hi to the drm for me
[06:55] <chrisrogers> i'll stay on #kubuntu on mirc to keep up with you guys and you can tell me when gnu/linux or ati gets their heads out of their A$$es and gets on this
[06:55] <intelikey> chrisrogers welcome to the wonderful world of "propritary" *****
[06:55] <SiR-HaCk> buenas
[06:55] <SiR-HaCk> alguien vivo?
[06:55] <nexano> -.-
[06:56] <leo_rockw> SiR-HaCk: este canal es solo en ingles. podes ir a #kubuntu-es para ayuda en español
[06:56] <flaccid> its unfortunate that the open drivers from xorg don't cut it for ati or nvidia otherwise i would use them. if you are a bsd user like me the support is even worse!!
[06:56] <SiR-HaCk> sorry
[06:56] <intelikey> chrisrogers it's not gnu/linux   it's the hardware maker not opensourcing a driver
[06:57] <leo_rockw> people get mad at linux for samba, for the drivers, for .doc not formatting correctly... i just don't get it
[06:57] <chrisrogers> intelikey: yea but they should figure out some way to support it (GNU/Linux i mean)
[06:57] <leo_rockw> chrisrogers: when was the last time you donated money to the cause?
[06:58] <chrisrogers> leo_rockw: not recently :P
[06:58] <intelikey> chrisrogers and get taken to coart, suied for billions, and put in jail...
[06:58] <Level15> jeez, apt is SLOW lately
[06:58] <intelikey> yeah they should
[06:58] <maduser> theres alot of people using it
[06:58] <chrisrogers> intelikey: huh?
[06:58] <leo_rockw> chrisrogers: hackers are not being paid as much as they should... and reverse engineering is not easy, particularly if they sue you every other day
[06:59] <Level15> maduser: yeah... this is when i kind of wish linux wasn't so popular :P
[06:59] <maduser> hehe
[06:59] <chrisrogers> well i'm going back to windows i'll talk to yall there
[06:59] <intelikey> chrisrogers you might want to read a little about how things actually work in the "dog eat gnu" world...   ;/
[06:59] <Level15> 0% [Waiting for headers]
[06:59] <nexano> so, when i try using twinview via nvidia-settings it restricts my second monitor to 640x480
[06:59] <nexano> sound familiar?
[06:59] <Level15> :@
[07:00] <leo_rockw> Level15: you could try mirrors closer to your place maybe
[07:01] <Level15> leo am using mirrors in my country :(
[07:02] <leo_rockw> Level15: well, the mirrors __for__ my country are not __in__ my country
[07:02] <leo_rockw> Level15: i live in argentina, they are in the UK
[07:02] <leo_rockw> Level15: i'm using brazil's now
[07:02] <Level15> i'm pretty sure Canada's mirrors are in Canada...
[07:03] <leo_rockw> Level15: mmhhh... most likely lol
[07:03] <Level15> or at the very least, in the US
[07:08] <chrisrogers> well until they get support  for an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 with 256 MB of Dedicated VRAM and 768 Shared with the ram
[07:09] <Myrth> hi, it looks like with KNetworkManager it is possible to choose wifi network only with the systray right click popup... in my area there's so many networks that it wraps to 3 columns and i can't find my network in there... is there another way to connect to WPA network?
[07:11] <intelikey> chrisrogers again.   complain to ati  that's where the problem is.
[07:12] <intelikey> not to mention "you bought it without doing your homeowrk first"    almost like bying an old mac and wondering why it wouldn't run windows...
[07:13] <Ketrel> Myrth, you should be able to enter it manually if you choose "Connect to other wireless network"
[07:14] <Myrth> oh, right, thanks :)
[07:14] <DaBonBon> someone told me that snd-hda-intel was kind of disabled in hardy, to convenience the other sound card drivers. is that true?
[07:14] <Myrth> sucks that i can't see the strength of networks when it goes to 2 and more columns
[07:14] <leo_rockw> Myrth: you could report it as a bug, or maybe post about it in the brainstorm
[07:17] <intelikey> DaBonBon maybe ask in #ubuntu if no one here knows
[07:17] <DaBonBon> intelikey: the problem itself is not ubuntu or kubuntu specific
[07:17] <leo_rockw> DaBonBon: but #ubuntu has more people
[07:18] <intelikey> !drm | should include DefectiveByDesign.org
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <DaBonBon> leo_rockw: right, asked there already
[07:18] <intelikey> DaBonBon correct  and the help base is larger in #ubuntu
[07:19] <DaBonBon> btw, doesn't firefox look really ugly in kubuntu 8.04? the tabs and icons look so misplaced and misaligned
[07:20] <Odd-rationale> DaBonBon: agreed. can't wait for a webkit kpart
[07:21] <DaBonBon> infact, firefox looked much better in 7.10
[07:23] <intelikey> oh here's a good one  http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/how_hardware_vendors_can_help.html
[07:23] <Oleg_> People, help! I wanna use mplayer with coreavc decoder for playing h264 files
[07:24] <Oleg_> to install command line mplayer, I gotta install mplayer-nogui package?
[07:25] <DaBonBon> anyone noticed that after typing apt-get or aptitude foo bar and pressing enter, the complete system hangs for a moment? as it if is "searching" for something?
[07:26] <DaBonBon> or is it only me?
[07:26] <leo_rockw> Oleg_: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[07:26] <Oleg_> why mplayer, but not mplayer-nogui?
[07:26] <Oleg_> I don't want gui mplayer
[07:26] <Oleg_> only command-line mplayer
[07:26] <leo_rockw> Oleg_: ooo
[07:27] <Oleg_> thanks
[07:27] <leo_rockw> Oleg_: yeah, then nogui
[07:27] <hushaohua> ／／
[07:29] <ere4si> !cn | hushaohua
[07:29] <ubotu> hushaohua: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[07:31] <leo_rockw> gnite/day everyone, going to bed
[07:34] <Ketrel> When using telnet, is there any way to make backspaces and arrow keys treated as such and not as adding in characters?
[07:36] <intelikey> Ketrel ummm test.   alt+SysRQ+R    and try it.   if that doesn't help   ctrl+alt+f1  &  ctrl+alt+f7   should "un-do" it.
[07:37] <Oleg_> I need to re-compile the kernel
[07:37] <intelikey> Oleg_ you have done that before ?
[07:38] <intelikey> !compile
[07:38] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[07:38] <intelikey> !kernel
[07:38] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[07:38] <Oleg_> ok, maybe I can install the pre-built package
[07:39] <Ketrel> intelikey I will try that when I boot into kubuntu again, thanks
[07:39] <Oleg_> I need the one that supports sse, sse2, mmx extensions
[07:39] <Oleg_> I don't know why kubuntu didn't install it during installation
[07:41] <Oleg_> how do I install the kernel sources
[07:41] <Oleg_> ?
[07:41] <JackWinter> any one care to have a quick look in adept to tell me which pulseaudio component was installed by default in 8.04 ?  i think there was just 1 lib when filtering with pulse.  wanna remove to get my sound working again.  will check out ubuntustudio to see how pulse works...
[07:43] <baudthief> after upgrading from gutsy to hardy, my samba mounts keep failing with "mount error: could not find target server. TCP name Multimedia/Unsorted not found"
[07:43] <baudthief> I can browse the shares though, and they work fine on windows machines
[07:44] <baudthief> any ideas?
[07:44] <Oleg_> just tell me what package installs kernel sources
[07:45] <intelikey> Oleg_ ^           if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[07:47] <JackWinter> anywhere i can browse to see the default installed libs of 8.04 ?
[07:47] <Oleg_> ok, it's linux-source-2.6.24
[07:47] <zeno_> hi! my /etc/enviornment is set with a :~/src, but starting a new bash echo $PATH outputs it without! why could this be/how to fix?
[07:49] <intelikey> !find linux-source
[07:49] <ubotu> Found: linux-source, linux-source-2.6.24
[07:49] <intelikey> !info linux-source
[07:49] <ubotu> linux-source (source: linux-meta): Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.18 (hardy), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB
[07:49] <maduser> for kde4 how to I add the number of desktops back to the taskbar?
[07:50] <intelikey> right click the taskbar and add applet   pager?
[07:50] <intelikey> no not pager?    something
[07:50] <intelikey> idk
[07:51] <donald__> Can somebody help me in the process of removing Kubuntu 8.04
[07:51] <intelikey> maduser or umm kde4 may not have multiple desktops ....
[07:51] <donald__> I'm in the Kubuntu liveCD and I'm unable to delete the linux-swap partition because it says it's mouned
[07:51] <maduser> it does
[07:51] <intelikey> donald__ sure.   delete the partition/s and fix the MBR
[07:52] <maduser> I see 2 i want 4
[07:52] <intelikey> donald__ umount it
[07:52] <donald__> I dont know how to unmount it
[07:52] <intelikey> donald__   sudo swapoff -a
[07:52] <maduser> nevermind got it
[07:52] <intelikey> maduser oh   right click the desktop and configure that
[07:52] <donald__> thanks intelikey
[07:53] <intelikey> maduser if all else fails     "kcontrol"   answers all
[07:53] <intelikey> donald__ you do know you have to fix your MBR
[07:53] <intelikey> !MBR
[07:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:54] <donald__> yes, intelikey I am aware of how to do that :)
[07:54] <intelikey> k
[07:54] <intelikey> just mentioned cause after deleting the partition that grubs files is on     you can't use grub to boot anything.
[08:02] <delarooney> question bout wubi
[08:03] <delarooney> I installed ubuntu base, and want to try switching to kubuntu, see if i like that desktop better.  Do i do it through a package manager or something, or should I run the wubi.exe from windows
[08:04] <intelikey> !wobi
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wobi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <intelikey> !wubi
[08:04] <ubotu> Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.
[08:04] <Daisuke_Ido> delarooney, you'll install the kubuntu-desktop package through synaptic while you're in ubuntu
[08:05] <Daisuke_Ido> then log out and choose a kde session
[08:14] <kblin> hi folks
[08:18] <krawczyk> czesc
[08:18] <kblin> I'm running kubuntu hardy, and it seems like my sound is broken for everything apart from KDE system sounds
[08:18] <Jucato> !pl | krawczyk
[08:18] <ubotu> krawczyk: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:19] <Jucato> (that's a first... everything except KDE sounds working :)
[08:19] <krawczyk> ok dzieki pozdro
[08:19] <kblin> so if I try to "test sound" from system settings, that plays just fine
[08:20] <kblin> if I try to run an ogg file from amarok or mplayer, sound doesn't start for about 10s, then it starts with weird noises in the background
[08:20] <drackmere> Not surprising, my sound really bites in 7.10.  I can't get it to get rid of the fuzz.
[08:20] <kblin> same for wav files
[08:20] <intelikey> "Some GNU/Linux operating system distributions add proprietary packages to the basic free system, and they invite users to consider this an advantage, rather than a step backwards from freedom."  http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html
[08:20] <kblin> it _was_ working in 7.10 just fine
[08:21] <drackmere> Hardy for KDE is still in beta isn't it?
[08:21] <kblin> is it?
[08:21] <Odd-rationale> does anyone know how to move kooldock  from the bottom to the top? I can't find it in the pref...
[08:22] <Jucato> see the channel's topic :)
[08:22] <Odd-rationale> drackmere: no, it is official
[08:22] <drackmere> I thought that the stable release was Gnome.
[08:22] <kblin> the funny thing is that it seems to work just fine on my x86_64 box
[08:22] <drackmere> Really? Why won't the upgrade show up in Adept?
[08:22] <Jucato> you might be confusing the LTS mark with a release
[08:23] <drackmere> Possibly.  Long week.
[08:23] <drackmere> So here is a question, can I run compiz in E-KDE?  If so, how?
[08:24] <drackmere> 7.10
[08:24] <HunterSThompson> anyone know if Assasin's Creed works in WINE?
[08:24] <Jucato> HunterSThompson: people in #winehq might know better
[08:24] <HunterSThompson> thanks
[08:25] <drackmere> Now if only that was H.S. Thompson.
[08:25] <drackmere> :-)
[08:26] <drackmere> Okay, I am suffering from brain death, just checked the site, sorry.
[08:27] <drackmere> Any takers on the compiz question?
[08:28] <drackmere> Okay, way past my bedtime, I will try tomorrow.  Thanks anyway.
[08:28] <intelikey> who is H.S. Thompson ?
[08:29] <drackmere> Hunter S. Thompson, just do a google on him, that will tell you all you need to know.
[08:30] <ubuntu> ola
[08:31] <Lynoure> Not really a help request yet, but if I have ati (floss) driver and soon an external monitor with bigger resolution than my laptop screen can do, what kind of hassle can I expect switching between them?
[08:32] <Lynoure> googling for it does not work as all I get is solutions for the proprietary driver
[08:32] <kblin> whoa
[08:32] <kblin> I just killed X and ran mplayer from console, sound works just great there
[08:32]  * kblin blames artsd
[08:36] <corban> So is Kubuntu a decent distro?
[08:37] <corban> i'm wondering if it's gona be worth moving from a source based distro to a binary based one
[08:39] <kblin> depends how much time you want to spend compiling things, I gues
[08:39] <kblin> but I figure most people here aren't exactly neutral
[08:39] <intelikey> corban no
[08:39] <corban> well...i like having the newest software available
[08:40] <intelikey> corban it includes non-free junk by default.
[08:40] <corban> non-free is fine
[08:40] <corban> just as long as it has no price tag
[08:40] <TimS> Does the dist update process create a log?
[08:41]  * intelikey would rather pay for free/open-source  than recieve propritary without charge
[08:41] <intelikey> TimS yes
[08:41] <intelikey> TimS /var/log/dpkg.log
[08:42] <TimS> Ok thanks
[08:42] <intelikey> TimS note that is all dpkg actions not only an upgrade
[08:42] <slawek> hello
[08:42] <harold> hi
[08:42] <corban> nothing wrong with propriatry
[08:43] <intelikey> corban nothing right with it either.
[08:43] <TimS> intelikey: I couldn't find it, but I did find /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log and thats exactly what I want =]
[08:43] <corban> why not?
[08:43] <intelikey> TimS heh yeah that one too.   but there should be a dpkg.log there too.
[08:44] <TimS> Okay, i guess its because I hadn't got to the download or install bit yet
[08:45] <TimS> Oh, i see it now. Thanks
[08:45] <corban> not trying to be difficult but why on earth would you pay for something open-source....may as well just get the source and compile it yourself
[08:46] <robert__> Hi everyone - I got a bit of a problem: I want to throttle my cpu (to let it not overheat), but whenever I try e.g. "sudo -i echo -n "90:80:50:55:50:45" > /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/trip_points" or "echo 4 | tee /proc/acpi/processor/P001/throttling" I just get "Permission denied"
[08:46] <intelikey> intentionally difficult, but why on earth would you use propritary when there is free.   :)
[08:47] <intelikey> robotgeek "echo 4 | sudo tee /proc/acpi/processor/P001/throttling"
[08:47] <corban> because it's there...and may be better then free alternative....take ATi drivers for instance
[08:48] <Lynoure> PolitikerNEU: why not just use power manager for that?
[08:48] <Lynoure> PolitikerNEU: sudo does not pass over a >
[08:48] <PolitikerNEU> ah, ok
[08:49] <intelikey> Lynoure   tee   ^
[08:49] <PolitikerNEU> I have tried power manager, but it is still too hot
[08:49] <corban> look before i get people annoyed with me, i just want you to know i'm thinking of moving from sabayon to Kubuntu
[08:49] <Lynoure> PolitikerNEU: something wrong with your hardware, then? (or fans not speeding up?)
[08:50] <PolitikerNEU> fan is speeding up and it's blowing hot out of the fan
[08:50] <corban> and i do greatly appreciate all the help
[08:50] <intelikey> pipes and redirrects are stdout which is owned by the user and you can pipe into sudo  whereas tee can then write.
[08:50] <Lynoure> corban: someone needs to write the source, it's not like it grows itself (more on #kubuntu-offtopic if you wish)
[08:50] <PolitikerNEU> hmm ... I just have used sudo su now
[08:50] <PolitikerNEU> but thanks
[08:51] <corban> ok
[08:51] <corban> i know someone needs to write source
[08:51] <Lynoure> corban: I'll happily explain more on whys, but not here :)
[08:52] <intelikey> PolitikerNEU sudo -i
[08:52] <intelikey> same as sudo su -      and if you did sudo su i hope you added the dash
[08:52] <corban> i'm on offtopic
[08:52] <PolitikerNEU> no, what is the dash needed for?
[08:53] <intelikey> man su         in short it sets to login env
[08:53] <PolitikerNEU> ok
[08:53] <dave11> to bad kubuntu 8.04 isnt a LTS version
[08:54] <Odd-rationale> dave11: I'm upgrading to 8.10 anyways... :)
[08:54] <harold> hehe
[08:54] <dave11> it rocks
[08:54] <Odd-rationale> It would be boring to use the same version for 2 years...
[08:54] <harold> i dont' care if its LTS... it still gets the ladies 8)
[08:54] <harold> *not
[08:54] <Repsa_Jih> Hello. I really need to make a larger backup (about 30Gig) of my hard drive. Therefore, I want to copy these files to another computer (WinXP). What is the best and fastest way to do this?
[08:54] <dave11> lol
[08:55] <Odd-rationale> especially if you get the new version FREE!
[08:55] <intelikey> i need to start my upgrade process to 9.06 now to be done in time for the release...
[08:55] <dave11> Odd-rationale: 8.10 thats cutting edge
[08:55] <progzy> : Hi ! I have a keyboard problem : sometimes when I press a key it does not print anything on the screen ; does anyone know where the problem comes from please ? (I am in dual boot and it is ok on windows)
[08:56] <intelikey> progzy is it a kernel issue or an xorg issue ?
[08:56] <PolitikerNEU> hmm ... If i do "echo 6 | tee /proc/acpi/processor/P001/throttling", system feels MUCH slower (so the command should have worked), but the temperature is still high
[08:56] <PolitikerNEU> (of course I did echo 6 | tee /proc/acpi/processor/P002/throttling too)
[08:57] <intelikey> progzy i mean is that problem repetable in console, or is it something that only happens in the GUI
[08:57] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+f1 to reach a console    ctrl+alt+f7 to find xorg again.
[08:58] <dave11> does kde 4 run better on 8.04?
[08:58] <intelikey> PolitikerNEU did you not see my answer ^ up there ?
[08:59] <intelikey> politikerneu; "echo 4 | sudo tee /proc/acpi/processor/P001/throttling"
[08:59] <intelikey> you pipe into sudo tee
[08:59] <PolitikerNEU> yeah, but I was in sudo su - now, but I'll try it
[09:00] <intelikey> simple test;   echo boo | sudo tee /root/testing
[09:00] <intelikey> sudo cat /root/testing
[09:00] <PolitikerNEU> echo boo | sudo tee /root/testing
[09:00] <PolitikerNEU> boo
[09:00] <PolitikerNEU> root@robert-laptop:~# sudo cat /root/testing
[09:00] <PolitikerNEU> boo
[09:00] <PolitikerNEU> but I'm in "sudo su -" currently
[09:01] <intelikey> it will work anyway
[09:01] <PolitikerNEU> so sudo shouldn't be needed
[09:01] <intelikey> no it's not while you are root
[09:01] <progzy> intelikey : it seems both : console or GUI
[09:01] <intelikey> infact   you can just redirrect echo from root.   echo ooob > /root/testing
[09:02] <progzy> I ve just tesed
[09:02] <progzy> *tested
[09:02] <thumper> with compiz running in hardy with kde 3.5.9, how do I restart the window decorations after they crash?
[09:02] <thumper> also, did anyone notice that their laptop became very unresponsive after the upgrade?
[09:04] <intelikey> progzy ok that's a kernel/hardware issue.   i'm not sure what to tell you there.     at least you know where the problem is.    if you can't find someone in here or  #ubuntu that can help you    and no bug reports on launchpad about it.   check in  ##linux and #kernel   maybe.
[09:04] <PolitikerNEU> hmm ... ok, now I've done "echo 4 | sudo tee /proc/acpi/processor/P001/throttling" - but still, temperature isn't decreasing. (The command must have worked, see:
[09:04] <PolitikerNEU> cat /proc/acpi/processor/P002/throttling
[09:04] <PolitikerNEU> state count:             8
[09:04] <PolitikerNEU> active state:            T4
[09:05] <intelikey> progzy i have never found that particular issue before, so i'm clueless there.
[09:05] <kblin> Repsa_Jih: use smbclient?
[09:06] <jpatrick> thumper: compiz usually has a ton of problems...
[09:06] <Malic> stupid question: i have removed firefox 3 and installed firefox-2. I want to start firefox with the command. How can i change this?
[09:06] <kblin> progzy: and typing "reset" in the console doesn't help?
[09:06] <Malic> with the command firefox
[09:06] <thumper> jpatrick: yeah, but it was pretty good prior
[09:06] <intelikey> PolitikerNEU idk.
[09:06] <thumper> jpatrick: do you know how to restart the window decoration?
[09:06]  * intelikey hides in fox-hole and srceems it's gonna blow !
[09:06] <Hix-Nix> hey guys, i have a question about your livecd... does it have klamav on it?  im geeking on a effed-up win-blows box and its all messed up
[09:06] <PolitikerNEU> ok, thanks anyway
[09:07] <Hix-Nix> i need a quick livecd with AV support
[09:07]  * thumper is pleased to have suspend/resume back
[09:07] <jpatrick> thumper: to switch back to kwin? 'kwin --replace'
[09:07] <intelikey> Hix-Nix why a live cd ?
[09:07] <Dr_willis> I recall some rescue cd's that had clamv on them.
[09:07] <thumper> jpatrick: not quite what I was asking, but thanks
[09:08] <thumper> jpatrick: do you know anything about normal windows becoming non-responsive?
[09:08] <Hix-Nix> intelikey, well, i just want to run an AV program on the winbows box. its a clients machine and my distro (gentoo) is down for the moment
[09:08] <jpatrick> thumper: oh, xgl disables the hiberation options yes - at least it did here
[09:08] <progzy> intelikey : ok thanks ... (Moreover it sometimes print more than one char at once - if I type "m" it could print "mmmmm" ...
[09:08] <jpatrick> thumper: it's usually xgl eating all the memory..
[09:08] <thumper> jpatrick: top says 99% idle
[09:08] <progzy> kblin : I am trying ...
[09:09] <thumper> jpatrick: but then the konsole stops updating and stops repainting for about 10s
[09:09] <intelikey> Hix-Nix oh.   one could boot the ubuntu live and install clamav on it...   but i'd look for a rescue disk that the docter mentioned prolly
[09:09] <jpatrick> thumper: I'd try uninstalling xserver-xgl and see if it helps
[09:09] <thumper> jpatrick: this is even with kwin
[09:09] <thumper> jpatrick: does that make a difference?
[09:10] <jpatrick> thumper: it killed xgl here, which ate most of the memory when I used compiz, even with kwin
[09:10] <thumper> jpatrick: ouch
[09:11] <Hix-Nix> well, i know the gentoo based rescue cd HAS clam/klamAV on it... problem is the sourceforge page is down :(
[09:11] <baudthief> does samba keep an access log somewhere? preferrably one that shows failed access attempts
[09:11] <jpatrick> thumper: my personal experience was: Xgl == bad, compiz or kwin, and it removed hiberation options...
[09:11] <Hix-Nix> so i need another quick fix
[09:11] <Dr_willis> You can enable a lot of log options in the samba configs.
[09:12] <intelikey> baudthief look in /var/log//
[09:12] <progzy> kblin : I don't know what reset is supposed to know but the problem is still here
[09:13] <Dr_willis> baudthief,  thers  /var/log/auth.log that may have some minimal info.
[09:13] <kblin> progzy: reset the console
[09:13] <baudthief> whoa this is weird: startsmbfilepwent_internal: file /etc/samba/smbpasswd did not exist. File successfully created.
[09:13] <pradalover> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080423)]/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[09:13] <baudthief> somehow it keeps losing smbpasswd?
[09:13] <pradalover> why?
[09:14] <jpatrick> pradalover: you cannot apt-cdrom the CD, because of the file system it uses
[09:14] <Tidus> sorry about that guys... had to refresh my nick list and i forgot to part all channels.
[09:14] <pradalover> like i know what you are talking about
[09:14] <jpatrick> Tidus: no problem
[09:16] <intelikey> pradalover you can comment out the line for the CD in your sources.list and go
[09:16] <Hix-Nix> well, thanks guys. i appreciate the help
[09:17] <pradalover> I'm thinking its no big deal
[09:17] <progzy> kblin : ok ...
[09:17] <baudthief> Dr_willis: doesnt contain anything about samba, netiher does anything else in /var/log/samba ;\
[09:18] <wizard> okay so i installed the latest kubuntu off the live CD and it installed kde 3.5.9... instead of 4.0.8 which was the CD i thought i downloaded... and, it removed windows from my grub install
[09:18] <Odd-rationale> wizard: that is ok. just install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[09:18] <wizard> Odd-rationale: and how do i get my windows partition back onto grub?
[09:18] <intelikey> pradalover i would comment out the cd in the sources     if you don't you may find less friendly messages later on.     adept package manager  is one way to do that.
[09:19] <Odd-rationale> wizard: reinstall grub?
[09:19] <intelikey> or edit /boot/grub/menu.lst  and add it manually
[09:19] <wizard> Odd-rationale: kubuntu-kde4-desktop isn't in my list for apt-get
[09:20] <intelikey> @ wizard ^
[09:20] <Odd-rationale> wizard: running hardy?
[09:20] <wizard> yes
[09:21] <CapitalT> Hi, I had to install in safe graphics mode (because of gigantic fonts) and now my video driver is "vesa". How can I let it auto detect my real driver?
[09:21] <Odd-rationale> wizard: did you apt-get update?
[09:21] <dmitry_> dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[09:22] <wizard> ...lmao
[09:22] <intelikey> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:22] <dmitry_> yeah)
[09:22] <Odd-rationale> intelikey: have you tried to reconfigre the xserver in hardy.  I like to laugh at dunb people....
[09:23] <wizard> lol...
[09:24] <Odd-rationale> intelikey: what's that?
[09:24] <wizard> be nice!
[09:24] <wizard> this is shameful
[09:24] <wizard> i burt the 8.04 disk and put it into the case with all my ubuntu cd's
[09:24] <intelikey> Odd-rationale switch for dpkg
[09:24] <wizard> and somehow, in a rash of genuine stupidity...
[09:24] <intelikey> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -plow
[09:24] <wizard> i pulled out my dapper cd
[09:24] <Odd-rationale> intelikey: I'll try that next time..
[09:24] <wizard> and totally installed dapper, oblivious to it until now
[09:24] <Odd-rationale> intelikey: what does it do?
[09:25] <Odd-rationale> wizard: ha!
[09:25] <wizard> haha oh my god
[09:25]  * wizard burries face in shame
[09:25] <intelikey> Odd-rationale ummm   man dpkg-reconfigure        but in short -p priority
[09:25] <Dr_willis> Nows the time to test the LTS upgrade feature!
[09:25] <Odd-rationale> intelikey: oh, yeah. I've done that... didn;t work
[09:25] <wizard> lol...
[09:26] <intelikey> Odd-rationale hmmm
[09:26] <wizard> nows the time where i hang my head low in shame and ask why my mother didn't abort.
[09:26] <intelikey> can anyone confirm that  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -plow   <<< does NOT allow selecting the display driver in hardy ?
[09:27] <rawleto> hmm
[09:27] <rawleto> really?
[09:27]  * rawleto don't bileive
[09:27] <rawleto> *believe
[09:27] <Dr_willis> hardy is 'supposed' to be very auto-configuraing for the X settings..  I wouldent be suprised at that.
[09:27] <wizard> are there no american mirrors yet for the remix verion?
[09:27] <Dr_willis> Im cheating and using my old xorg.conf file.
[09:28] <Dr_willis> wizard,  i used the torrents. and got it so fast.. my pc was smoking. ;)
[09:28] <wizard> wheres the torrent for the remix?
[09:28] <Dr_willis> with the other torrents on the ubuntu torrent site i alwys find by googling for 'ubuntu torrent'
[09:29] <monkeybritches> wizard: http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/release/
[09:29] <chris32882> alright, heres the story, Its been awhile since I used kubuntu....and trying to get back on track....how do I say...install firefox or search?
[09:30] <Dr_willis> chris32882,  fire up the package maanger/add-remove programs tool and start installing
[09:30] <Dr_willis> or use the command line tools.
[09:30] <Odd-rationale> rawleto: try it. I bet you it won't work...
[09:30] <jussio1> chris32882: kmenu - system -adept
[09:30] <wizard> Dr_willis: nothin' came up for me with that search strand
[09:31] <chris32882> alright, I remember there was a way to install the "Extras" for kubuntu? do you know what the line is?
[09:31] <Dr_willis> I find that hard to belive wiz that 'nothing' came up when you googled for 'ubuntu torrent'
[09:31] <wizard> well, nothing short of a few repositories of private trackers
[09:31] <Dr_willis> http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+torrent&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[09:31] <monkeybritches> *cough* http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/release/
[09:31] <jussio1> chris32882: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:32] <Dr_willis> first hit. has a link to all the ubuntu torrents that i think exist. 'officially'
[09:32] <wizard> monkeybritches: that doesn't have a torrent link on there
[09:32] <monkeybritches> Scroll down
[09:32] <chris32882> ty  jussio1
[09:32] <jussio1> !torrents
[09:32] <ubotu> Kubuntu Hardy Heron (8.04) torrents can be obtained at http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/8.04/release/ (KDE 3.5.9) or http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/release/ (KDE 4.0.3)
[09:32] <monkeybritches> http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/release/kubuntu-kde4-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[09:32] <Dr_willis> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[09:32] <Dr_willis> is where i always  go.
[09:34] <wizard> okay finally there we go
[09:34] <wizard> hopefully this will o nice and quick
[09:34] <wizard> so i can walk this mistake of shame off and learn from my mistakes lol
[09:34] <tony403> anyone here use ubuntu also? is there anything missing in ubuntu you can do in kubuntu?
[09:35] <wizard> configure anything tony403
[09:35] <Dr_willis> I alwyas install ubuntu and kubuntu desktops. I like some of the ubuntu tools for some tasks.
[09:35] <Odd-rationale> tony403: more like the other way...
[09:35] <monkeybritches> They're basically the same
[09:35] <momal> Hey I just updated to hardy from gutsy and now I am getting this weird error in Kaffeine, "Loading of player part 'XinePart' failed." Details: "All Video Drivers failed to initialize!" Anyone know how I can go about fixing it ?
[09:35] <wizard> gnome tends to overstupify things.
[09:35] <rawleto> what's name of daemon for autoupdate kubuntu?
[09:35] <Dr_willis> and under gnome, thers some kde tools i perfer
[09:35] <Odd-rationale> wizard: I'm seedin the alt cd right now :)
[09:35] <monkeybritches> KDE is prettier :)
[09:36] <wizard> im doing the regular desktop one, Odd-rationale
[09:36] <Odd-rationale> policykit isn't intergrated in kubuntu
[09:36] <wizard> Odd-rationale: i cant get over how i somehow managed to install dapper without even catching it once that it was the WRONG cd
[09:36] <intelikey> have you slashed your dot lately ?
[09:36] <tony403> i was thinking of trying ubuntu for a change but afraid i'll be missing something after using kde a while
[09:36] <wizard> i'll never again do a linux install while on a narcotic sleeping aid.
[09:37] <Odd-rationale> and you can't watch youtube vidoes in kaffeine like you can in totem...
[09:37] <wizard> in soviet russia, youtube watches you Odd-rationale
[09:37] <Dr_willis> tony403,  its trivial to have kde and gnome both on the same machine.
[09:37] <intelikey> lol
[09:37] <Odd-rationale> but in all. I still like kde better! :)
[09:37] <chris32882> check out the korean baby singing "Hey Jude" pretty cool
[09:38] <tony403> Dr_willis, yes, i know. i haven't tried it but was going for a light install
[09:38] <Odd-rationale> I remember the first time I tried KDE i couldn't figure out how to delete folders/file. Because whenever I click on them it would open... :/ I ended up doing it from the terminal...
[09:38] <harold> ewwww totem
[09:38] <wizard_> hmmm
[09:38] <Odd-rationale> now, ctrl+click seems natural...
[09:38] <Dr_willis> Odd-rationale,  i tend to do a 'click/drag/select box' to select files. :)
[09:38] <monkeybritches> Probably not as cool as the three-year-old Chinese girl who can solve a Rubik's cube in two minutes.
[09:39] <harold> that just made me feel so worthless
[09:39] <tony403> ok, so i'll go with kubuntu again. does anyone suggest kde 4.03?
[09:39] <Odd-rationale> Dr_willis: for single files
[09:39] <Odd-rationale> tony403: i'd reccmend getting kubuntu 3.5.9
[09:39] <t3hwiz0rd> installed dapper instead of hardy... this is the dumbest thing i've done since engagement.
[09:39] <chris32882> check it out monkeybritches, surprised a lil toddler like that can sing the song, in english
[09:39] <Odd-rationale> tony403: then install kubuntu-kde4-desktop if you really want it.
[09:40] <Odd-rationale> tony403: you can choose kde/kde4 session in the kdm login screen
[09:40] <monkeybritches> I just upgraded to 4.03 and wished I had installed it from the start instead of upgrading
[09:40] <t3hwiz0rd> kde 4.0 is more or less cutting edge and isn't considered stable
[09:40] <Dr_willis> i barely consider kde4 'useable' :)
[09:40] <t3hwiz0rd> install kde 3.5 on the back end to make sure you've got a stable desktop to revert to incase things get... messy? :-)
[09:40] <monkeybritches> Now I've got to get rid of all the older versions of apps from 3.5
[09:41] <t3hwiz0rd> i downgraded :D
[09:41] <t3hwiz0rd> to dapper :D lmao
[09:41] <t3hwiz0rd> by mistake...
[09:41] <Dr_willis> monkeybritches,  oddly enouhg - i had kde3 and 4 both installed in the beta.. then one day a lot of the redundant kde3 apps that were in kde4. got removed... Not sure what did that.
[09:41] <Odd-rationale> anyways. gtg. good night all!
[09:41] <harold> gnight night
[09:41] <monkeybritches> Maybe if I do nothing they'll go away
[09:43] <intelikey> t3; i'm using dapper full time.    have been sense about a month before it released.
[09:44] <intelikey> it doesn't seem like i've used ubuntu for three years
[09:45] <intelikey> doesn't seem like i've used linux for 9 years...   where did the time go
[09:45] <Pennycook> I've just installed Hardy on my laptop and I'm trying to get to my desktop from it. I can ssh but not sftp or fish. Any ideas?
[09:47] <tony403> anyone know if there's an option yet to hide the panel in kde4 to use your own dock?
[09:49] <intelikey> Pennycook hmm no, i was just testing and anything i can ssh into i can fish:// into     are you getting an error message ?
[09:49] <monkeybritches> Right-click on the panel > Configure Panel > Hiding > Hide immediately
[09:50] <jussio1> tony403: probably best to ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[09:50] <tony403> jussio1, thanks, will do
[09:50] <delarooney> Just used package manager to install kubuntu.  how do I get the kicker program to show up?
[09:50] <intelikey> Pennycook you are using the same username and password for ssh and fish://  ?
[09:50] <tony403> monkeybritches, thanks, just wondering. haven't installed the latest one yet
[09:51] <chris32882> whats the command to search in the terminal? -s?
[09:51] <monkeybritches> np
[09:51] <tony403> last time the panel would mess up and i couldn't use a different one because it wouldn't hide
[09:51] <Dr_willis> delarooney,  what exactly did you install?
[09:51] <intelikey> chris32882 find ?   or  grep ?
[09:51] <Dr_willis> delarooney,  the complate kde/kubuntu desktop is in  the 'kubuntu-desktop' package
[09:51] <delarooney> kubuntu desktop from synaptic
[09:51] <Pennycook> intelikey: I was, yes.  It's just sorted itself out, the password box was appearing behind Konqueror. ^^;
[09:51] <monkeybritches> delarooney: Alt-F2 > Kicker, or 'kicker' in terminal
[09:52] <monkeybritches> chris32882: What are you searching for?
[09:52] <intelikey> Pennycook oh   i see.     heh   ok.
[09:52] <chris32882> I know I could use the manager, but I want to get used to using the terminal again
[09:52] <delarooney> okay.  Now I have that kicker toolbar, but I have the old ubuntu toolbar at the bottom now
[09:52] <chris32882> want to install firefox browser
[09:52] <chris32882> want to be able to search using apt-get
[09:53] <intelikey> apt-cache search blah
[09:53] <Dr_willis> delarooney,  you just ran kicker, (a kde app) while using gnome..  :) thats what you asked how to do...
[09:53] <Dr_willis> delarooney,  if you want the whole kde desktop. logout and use the menus on the login screen to select KDE
[09:53] <intelikey> chris32882 and for details   apt-cache show blah
[09:53] <chris32882> alright
[09:53] <delarooney> hm... I'll try.  thanks
[09:54] <Dr_willis> Gotta love it when you answer a question and its not really the right question the guy was mening to ask.. :)
[09:54] <intelikey> save a sudo    don't need to be root to search packages
[09:55] <intelikey> Dr_willis yeah that looked like a loaded question from word one.
[09:55] <delarooney> wow.  thanks.  this is cool
[09:56] <intelikey> well i'm done.
[09:56] <chris32882> alright, it asks if I am root, which I am how do you enter my name and pass?
[09:57] <monkeybritches> prefix your command with sudo
[09:57] <tony403> anyone know if kde comes in the ubuntu dvd and vice versa?
[09:57] <Dr_willis> delarooney,  so much easier then what you expected eh?  :)
[09:58] <The_ManU_212> hi
[09:58] <monkeybritches> It's available, but Gnome is installed by default, and vice versa
[09:58] <The_ManU_212> i wanted to make a backup of all my files in /home/manu
[09:58] <The_ManU_212> so i made sudo cp -r  /home/manu /media/usbsik/destination
[09:59] <The_ManU_212> but du -shm shows a difference of some mb, is that normal?
[09:59] <Dr_willis> tony403,  i do not think it does.
[10:00] <The_ManU_212> and some directories of my buckup now have only root rights (reason of sudo?)
[10:00] <chris32882> alright its late here, gots to get some sleep, I'm sure I will be back
[10:00] <chris32882> later
[10:02] <delarooney> yeah...
[10:02] <delarooney> this dual booting windows thing is neat.
[10:03] <pui> hi all
[10:03] <pui> :)
[10:03] <tony403> Dr_willis, ok, thanks. i just wish there was more collaboration in a desktop environment for linux so i wouldn't have to choose
[10:03] <pui> anyone can help me ?
[10:03] <pui> pls
[10:03] <pui> with ubuntu 8.04
[10:03] <pui>  ?...
[10:03] <Dr_willis> tony403,  choises are good.
[10:04] <momal> Since upgrading to hardy from gutsy kaffeine just gives me: "Loading of player part 'XinePart' failed. All Videos Drivers failed to initialize!" Anyone have any ideas what the problem is?
[10:04] <Dr_willis> tony403,  you can mixx/match apps from kde/gnome fairly easially. check out the freedesktop.org site also.
[10:05] <tony403> i'm looking at kde-apps.org and gtk-apps.org. sorting by rank, most gnome apps are screenlets while kde apps are more work oriented. maybe that tells me right there to go kde
[10:06] <anto> I know this ain the kde4 channel but dose anyone know how to fix the ugly gtk widgets?
[10:06] <luna> ciao all, I'm problem with wifi card on asus laptop:S
[10:06] <Pennycook> anto: There's a gtk-qt-engine-kde4 package. Install that and there's a GTK configuration option in the Appearance tab of System Settings.
[10:06] <luna> Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[10:07] <luna> this is working on kubuntu?
[10:07] <anto> ill give it a try
[10:12] <luna> :(
[10:18]  * TimS has started his upgrade to Hardy =]
[10:18] <vistakiller> good luck :D
[10:19] <vistakiller> and if you cant install your gpu driver try envung from synaptic
[10:20] <TimS> I need to find someone with my gpu, the last nvida driver didn't work with it, there was a bug, so i need to check it works with the new one, then I can have compiz fusion for a first time in 6 months!
[10:20] <TimS> Oh and decent screensavers!
[10:22] <Dr_willis> Yea - screensavers are so Critucal to an os's useability!
[10:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:22] <vistakiller> Tims try to install the driver with envyng
[10:22] <TimS> Exactly! :p
[10:22] <vistakiller> you will find it in synaptic
[10:22] <vistakiller> there is a problem with the some gpu cards
[10:22] <TimS> Okay, Ill have a look in 26mins after its installed
[10:22] <Dr_willis> what card was this?
[10:22] <TimS> 7300 series didn't work on the old drivers
[10:23] <TimS> But the fix was not backported to 7.10, it is suposed to be in 8.04 according to a launchpad bug thing :p
[10:24] <vistakiller> i see in different forum that there is problem
[10:24] <vistakiller> with nvidia 7***
[10:24] <vistakiller> and nvidia 8***
[10:24] <vistakiller> the only way to install the driver is envyng
[10:24] <vistakiller> with this cards
[10:25] <TimS> oh, interesting
[10:26] <TimS> Ill ask on the forums if anyone has my card and if it works under hardy
[10:26] <vistakiller> it works nice
[10:26] <vistakiller> with the last driver
[10:26] <TimS> Dr_willis: something odd about upgrading to hardy, its removed mono, it didn't reinstall it, unless the package name has changed.
[10:27] <vistakiller> ubuntu have problem to set corect your card
[10:27] <delarooney> APT database could not be opened error
[10:28] <vistakiller> try to restart and try again
[10:30] <Jucato> vistakiller: did you just tell delarooney to restart to fix his APT database error?
[10:31] <vistakiller> yes
[10:31] <Jucato> !aptfix | vistakiller
[10:31] <ubotu> vistakiller: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:31] <Jucato> next time just show him that
[10:31] <vistakiller> is not break only corrupt
[10:32] <Jucato> yes, that would unlock it
[10:32] <vistakiller> and with restart will unlock it :P
[10:32] <Jucato> no
[10:32] <krish> hey
[10:32] <vistakiller> is faster way than i dont know it
[10:32] <krish> Any idea why gutsy repositories are not accessible
[10:33] <Dr_willis> the servers are very loaded right now.
[10:34] <krish> since yesterday I've not been able to do a successful reload of my sources list of a new gutsy installation :(
[10:35] <Aranel> I upgraded to Hardy but my FFox is still 2, I tried upgrading it to 3.0 but It says it will remove j2re packages.
[10:35] <wizard_> okay i got kde 4 installed
[10:35] <wizard_> but now my panel disappeared o.O
[10:35] <krish> Aranel: download source and install
[10:35] <wizard_> after ichanged my video settings
[10:35] <Aranel> krish: source ?
[10:35] <Aranel> do you mean i need to recompile it ?
[10:35] <Jucato> wizard_: #kubuntu-kde4 maybe?
[10:35] <krish> wizard_: kde4 shipped with kubuntu or from kde trunk
[10:36] <wizard_> shipped
[10:36] <krish> Aranel: you installed ff from adept/aptitude/apt-get?
[10:36] <Aranel> krish: yes.
[10:36] <cool_walking_> Hi, I upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy with KDE4, and Konqueror won't browser directories: "There appears to be a configuration error. You have associated Konqueror with inode/directory, but it cannot handle this file type."
[10:36] <wizard_> i installed nvidia settings, then restarted X and my panel was gone
[10:36] <krish> Aranel: download ff3 beta from mozilla site
[10:36] <krish> and follow instructions from there
[10:37] <Aranel> krish: oh, ok. but There is a ff3 package in Ubuntu Repository too. Why we dont use the package instead of mozilla ff3 ?
[10:37] <krish> btw, in gutsy list if you install ff3, you get some other language pack rather than english.. it says Grand Paradiso for firefox
[10:37] <cool_walking_> Gah, am I allowed to ask about KDE4 here since it's not officially supported?
[10:37] <krish> check in hardy
[10:37] <krish> it must be same
[10:37] <krish> firefox-3
[10:38] <Aranel> krish: yes package named firefox-3.0
[10:38] <krish> cool_walking_: its better to build from kde branch or trunk
[10:38] <Aranel> krish: but when I try to install it, it says it will remove j2re.
[10:38] <krish> ah
[10:38] <krish> ok wait
[10:38] <cool_walking_> krish: I just read the channel topic.. going to #kubuntu-kde4
[10:40] <delarooney> Package manager isn't working anymore.  Restarted, and still saying that apt database cant be opened
[10:41] <wizard_> okay
[10:41] <wizard_> how does one set up the effects on kde 4?
[10:41] <krish> delarooney: hardy?
[10:41] <TimS> !adeptfix
[10:41] <krish> wizard_: #kde3
[10:41] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:41] <krish> hehe
[10:41] <krish> #kde4
[10:41] <krish> #kde
[10:42] <TimS> !apdetfix | delarooney
[10:42] <TimS> There we go :p
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apdetfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <TimS> Eh?
[10:42] <TimS> !adeptfix | delarooney
[10:42] <ubotu> delarooney: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:42] <delarooney> yeah
[10:42] <delarooney> hardy
[10:42] <TimS> gah, spellings :p
[10:42] <delarooney> and i typed in apt get update..
[10:42] <delarooney> and it gave me...
[10:43] <delarooney> john@john-desktop:~$ apt-get update
[10:43] <delarooney> E: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 62 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:43] <TimS> delarooney: Just run that in a terminal "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[10:43] <Aranel> krish: did u find anything ? :)
[10:43] <CapsY> can i ask something about xorg config ?
[10:44] <delarooney>  USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
[10:44] <delarooney> /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       5681 F.... adept_updater
[10:44] <delarooney> Kill process 5681 ? (y/N)
[10:44] <TimS> y
[10:44] <krish> Aranel: patience he-man
[10:45] <TimS> Jucato: The upgrade wants me to replace my modprobe.d/blacklist, but my wireless usb key is in there, so should I keep it?
[10:45] <krish> Aranel: sudo aptitude -R install firefox-3
[10:45] <TimS> It would easier if I could merge both together :P
[10:45] <momal> Kaffeine Error: "Loading of player part 'XinePart' failed. All Videos Drivers failed to initialize!" Anyone know how to fix?? Xine-ui plays videos fine
[10:47] <delarooney> adept fix didnt work
[10:47] <TimS> Hmm
[10:47] <delarooney> E: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 62 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:47] <delarooney> is what i get when i type in apt-get update
[10:47] <momal> sounds like you have "sudo" written in that file
[10:47] <TimS> Oh, sounds like an error with your sources.list
[10:47] <Aranel> krish: aptitude trying to remove lot of libraries. can we use apt-get instead ?
[10:48] <delarooney> sources.list can be fixed?
[10:48] <dystopianray> has anyone here used kget?
[10:48] <krish> apt-get may do the same
[10:48] <snikker> i've updete the kernel from 2.6.22-14 to 2.6.22-16 and now all ide device are recognized as scsci device. how fix this?  i'm under herdy.
[10:48] <snikker> *update
[10:48] <dystopianray> snikker: it's normal, there is nothing to fix
[10:49] <delarooney> !sources.list
[10:49] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[10:49] <Malic> what is ld-linux.so.2 ?
[10:49] <krish> Aranel: use apt-get
[10:49] <krish> with -s
[10:49] <krish> and simulate
[10:49] <krish> see what are going away
[10:49] <snikker> dystopianray: it's a nornmal thing that an ide device is detected as scsi?
[10:50] <Malic> it has 80% in my process table
[10:50] <TimS> krish: Have you updated to Hardy?
[10:50] <dystopianray> snikker: it's using the new libata driver, yes it is normal
[10:50] <krish> TimS: No. Downloading hardy studio
[10:50] <Aranel> krish:  E: firefox-3 paketi bulunamadı (Couldnt find firefox-3 package in english)
[10:50] <TimS> Okay.
[10:50] <krish> Aranel: check your adept
[10:50] <krish> what is it?
[10:51] <krish> firefox-3.0 i guess
[10:51]  * TimS is updating, but backing up every config file it wans
[10:51] <TimS> wants to overwrite
[10:51] <Aranel> when i try firefox3.0 it says it will remove j2re
[10:51] <krish> Aranel: I recommend downloading latest beta from firefox site
[10:51] <krish> and install according to the instructions there
[10:51] <snikker> dystopianray: ah, ok... but in this way i have a problem thi an ide hard disk...
[10:52] <dystopianray> snikker: what problem do you have?
[10:52] <Aranel> krish: whats the version of default hardy browser ? 2.0 or 3.0 ?
[10:52] <dystopianray> Aranel: 3.0 beta 5
[10:52] <krish> Aranel: no idea
[10:52] <Aranel> oh ok :/ i'll try to install it manually.
[10:53] <krish> another 200MB of download left
[10:53] <snikker> dystopianray: at boot i've a console prompt, i must press ctrl-d to go away, than start kdm, but the hd is not accessible...
[10:53] <trixon> Hi, Im working on a cell phone theme, but I cant find a good picure of the "kubuntu gears", does anyone here know where to get it?
[10:53] <Aranel> in fact i need to use ffox3 with j2re. but it tries to remove it.
[10:53] <krish> Aranel: yep, thats better, cos whatever you are getting on sources list might just be 3.0 and not 3.0.x
[10:53] <dystopianray> snikker: hrrm i'm not sure, might want to ask in #ubuntu and file a bug report
[10:53] <krish> trixon: google
[10:53] <krish> kde-look.org
[10:53] <trixon> krish done that
[10:54] <snikker> dystopianray: ok i'll ask in #ubuntu... thank you for answer :)
[10:54] <delarooney> if sources.list is messed, how do i fix?
[10:54] <krish> what kinda gears do you want
[10:54] <krish> sleek metallic or just plain
[10:55] <trixon> krish plain kubuntu vanilla
[10:56] <TimS> Arg, just got loads of updates about failing to update PHP, leaving unconfigured
[10:56] <Pennycook> I'm looking to report a bug, but want to make sure I do it in the right place. I'm running Hardy (KDE4 remix) and run into a problem every time that I try to open a text file in Kate from within Konqueror or Dolphin. How do I file it, KDE4, Kubuntu, Kate or Konqueror/Dolphin? ^^;
[10:57] <krish> trixon: i guess you will have to draw it yourself if you aren't satisfied with the ones available
[10:57] <krish> trixon: try asking in #kde-artists
[10:57] <krish> someone may help
[10:58] <TimS> Oh christ. I am updating, "Could not install 'kubuntu-desktop'". I am slightly concerned now!
[10:58] <trixon> krish, ty
[11:00]  * TimS fears for his install now :(
[11:01]  * TimS backs up everything lol
[11:01] <TimS> Ah emilsedgh!
[11:02] <TimS> Have you upgraded to hardy?
[11:02] <emilsedgh> hey TimS, whats up?
[11:02] <TimS> I am updating, I just got an error saying "Could not install 'kubuntu-desktop'". I am slightly concerned now!
[11:03] <emilsedgh> TimS: what else?
[11:03] <TimS> It failed to install/configure loads of PHP and MySQL files
[11:03] <TimS> Is it a serious error?
[11:04] <emilsedgh> i have no idea TimS
[11:04] <TimS> I have about 1 min left of the install updates step, then I can see if this is the third update to break my system.
[11:04] <TimS> :(
[11:04] <TimS> Okay :p
[11:04] <emilsedgh> TimS: did you try sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get -f install ??
[11:04] <progzy> Hi ! I use kubuntu 6.06 LTS ; I have changes my source list to this one : http://www.neurologeek.net/linux/linux--ubuntu/depots-pour-kubuntu-6.06-lts.html ; And know when I applied changes, a error occurs (something like "unable to apply changes) ; any idea please ?
[11:05] <progzy> *now
[11:05] <TimS> Its still installing updates, emilsedgh ill try that if it boots up with a black screen and a load of errors :P
[11:05] <emilsedgh> TimS: i hope it will work correct ;)
[11:06] <emilsedgh> TimS: usually if serious error happens, it wont continue
[11:06] <TimS> Errors were encountered while processing: php5-cli libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql php5-snmp php5-curl php5-gd php5 gallery2 samba-common smbfs smbclient kubuntu-desktop libphp-adodb smb4k cacti phpmyadmin
[11:06] <TimS> Thank god I don't use PHP much anymore!
[11:07] <progzy> Does anyone can give me his source list or a link for kubuntu 6.06 LTS please ?
[11:07] <emilsedgh> TimS: i would try to delete the packages that you mentioned above from /var/cache/apt/archives, then run apt-get update and try to upgrade again
[11:08] <TimS> Now I am getting an error that amarkoapp crashed, but it didn't, its still playing music! :p
[11:08] <TimS> Okay, Ill try that when its restarts and everythign breaks :p
[11:09] <TimS> I've been backing up most of the config files and error logs it produces :P
[11:09] <TimS> the dist upgrade window has frozen, oh hell.
[11:10] <TimS> emilsedgh: Can you remeber the command to run to copy the names of every package installed to a text file?
[11:11] <dystopianray> TimS: dpkg -l > packages
[11:11] <emilsedgh> :)
[11:11] <TimS> Cheers :P
[11:11] <ubuntu> how do i get xgl on Kubuntu 8.04
[11:11] <Zaqq> anyone having problems with their WUBI install.. with boot hanging up at the (initramfs) prompt?? this error occurs after installing nvidia drivers and rebooting.
[11:12] <jimat> Hi, all. I am using Hardy KDE4. I've just installed several programs but I don't see them on menu. How do I make it appear on menu?
[11:12] <ubuntu> how do i get xgl on Kubuntu 8.04
[11:12] <emilsedgh> !compiz | ubuntu
[11:12] <ubotu> ubuntu: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:13] <ubuntu> thanks
[11:15] <cool_walking_> emilsedgh: what's "bitwise or of negated compiz and ubuntu" supposed to mean?
[11:15] <emilsedgh> dunno cool_walking_
[11:15] <cool_walking_> Then why'd you say it?
[11:17] <jimat> ah just realised I am on the wrong channel :(
[11:17] <momal> Kaffeine Error: "Loading of player part 'XinePart' failed. All Videos Drivers failed to initialize!" Anyone know how to fix?? Xine-ui plays videos fine
[11:17] <Kohlrabi> `sudo apt-get install mplayer` *cough*
[11:21] <TimS> What file is the info about Hard Drives stored, like what to mount on start up if you know what I mean?
[11:23] <Dr_willis> the /etc/fstab file defines mountpoints for filesystems
[11:23] <emilsedgh> TimS: /etc/fstab
[11:23] <TimS> Thanks
[11:31] <dreamcoder> can someone help me get my display working i am wokring on 640 x whatever its well annoying when i change it in the gui and restart x it keeps going back to normal
[11:33] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[11:33] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:33] <cappy_> !xorg
[11:33] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:33] <momal> Kohlrabi: If the answer to fixing something that shouldn't be broken is to just install something else then I would just install windows.
[11:34] <n3ksus> ewwww windows
[11:34] <momal> exactly my thoughts as well n3ksus
[11:35]  * Mekzholan has just upgraded to 8.04 :) but has a problem with Thunderbird/Firefox :(
[11:35] <Mekzholan> Both programs don't know each other anymore :(
[11:36] <chakie> hm, my update stopped at 99% with a message: "Errors were encountered while processing: lirc" and then just sits there
[11:36] <Mekzholan> When I click on a link in Thunderbird nothing happens (I'd expect firefox to open the page...)
[11:36] <chakie> the adept updater has never succeeded in doing a full upgrade...
[11:36] <Mekzholan> And clicking on a mailto: in firefox just shows me a dialog about what application to use :(
[11:37] <Mekzholan> can someone help me?
[11:37] <mario> eh?
[11:38] <chakie> damn, now adept updater left lock files
[11:39] <Eruaran> Mekzholan: does firefox have settings for that ?
[11:39] <samuel16> Hello everybody
[11:39] <chakie> and stray processes...
[11:39] <samuel16> Does anyone know which package provides XShm?
[11:39] <Eruaran> !apt
[11:39] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:39] <dreamcoder> please can someone help my with my display settings i have GeForce 6100 nForce 430
[11:39] <samuel16> I need it for wine
[11:39] <Mekzholan> Eruaran: Firefox has a setting for the "mailto:"  - but that seemed to be getting lost by an update :(
[11:40] <Eruaran> dreamcoder: xorg
[11:40] <Eruaran> !xorg
[11:40] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:41] <samuel16> what package do I need to get XShm?
[11:41] <kaminix> I keep getting this error when trying to use sudo: sudo: must be setuid root..... why?
[11:42] <samuel16> Does nobody knows it?
[11:46] <Dr_willis> I though xshm was an optuon in the xorg.conf file
[11:48] <tsb> is kmilo supposed to work in 3.5.9? I don't get any response using the x..vol up/down keys
[11:51] <Oleg_> People, to what place I need to copy my compiled bzImage to boot kubuntu with it?
[11:52] <Dr_willis> kernel images are normally in /boot somewhere
[11:52] <Oleg_> yeah, I know
[11:53] <Oleg_> but exactly where - I dunno
[11:53] <uros_> hi all. does anyone know what i have to install if i want to install gnome and don't want gnome apps all over the place in my menu (i know there is something that groups them together)
[11:53] <Dr_willis> I would think you would want to give it a more specific name, and add a grub entry to boot it.
[11:53] <sigma_1234> how do i install kde 4 on hardy and how big is it to download?
[11:54] <ForsakenSoul> hi I shared 2 partitions with samba and I can find them in the net with windows but It doesn't give me access to them when I try to open them ... can the permissions on the linux be the problem I mean the permissions for the folders
[11:54] <Dr_willis> kde4 - the K Desktop Environment version 4 official modules
[11:55] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I dont see any kde4-desktop metapackage.
[11:55] <seil> hi, how do you uninstall kde 3.5.9 from kubuntu?
[11:55] <seil> i'm using kde 4.0.3
[11:56] <Dr_willis> I wouldent advise uninstalling kde3 - I find kde4 lacking too many features and specific tools
[11:56] <ForsakenSoul> how can I set a mounted partitions permissions so that everyone could enter it (regardless of group or user)
[11:56] <seil> well, certain things i would like to keep from kde 3.5, such as skim and knetworkmanager, but i would like to uninstall the rest
[11:56] <Mekzholan> Eruaran: hm, can you help me with my problem (esp. that thunderbird doesn't work with links anymore...)
[11:57] <seil> ForsakenSoul: right click on the drive inside dolphin
[11:57] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  depends on the filesystem of the partition to some degree
[11:57] <seil> ForsakenSoul: dolphin will give you the option to mount the partition as user
[11:58] <warrenDumX> hi dear kubuntu users
[11:58] <warrenDumX> i have a stupid question, can someone send me a screenshot of openoffice opened in hardy heron ?
[11:58] <warrenDumX> or find a screenshot on the web
[11:58] <warrenDumX> ?
[11:59] <Lynoure> warrenDumX: hmm, it's not that different at least on the kde3 side
[11:59] <ForsakenSoul> seil no such option
[11:59] <Oleg_> I may dump kubuntu and go back to using gentoo because I am not used to kubuntu!
[11:59] <warrenDumX> well i still would like a screenshot :)
[11:59] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis its NTFS ...
[12:00] <Dr_willis> Oleg_,  this is linux.. use whatever you perfer. :)
[12:00] <Eruaran> Mekzholan: not sure Mekzholan, I don't use thunderbird except at work (and thats with Windows)
[12:00] <ForsakenSoul> I have all my music there and I need to open it from another computer which has windows ... I find the folders no problem but I cant open them
[12:00] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  You most likely want to use the ntfs-config tool to enable all users to access the filesystem then.
[12:00] <Eruaran> Mekzholan: I usually use Kontact
[12:01] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  if you are having issues with accessing them as a samba share.. well you might want to set up the disk as a public share on the linux box.
[12:01] <ForsakenSoul> well I've set it up
[12:01] <ForsakenSoul> done it through dolphin and through the samba gui in settings
[12:01] <ForsakenSoul> and through the network samba setting
[12:02] <ForsakenSoul> I don't think samba is the problem because the other pc can see the folders but it can't open them
[12:02] <Eruaran> Mekzholan: try here, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-18175.html
[12:02] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  that sounds exactly like a samba permission  problem.
[12:03] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis any suggestions
[12:03] <rootsnatch> hey guys what is a good system montitoring tool for KDE?
[12:03] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  set up a specic public samba share just for that filesystem.  Thats what i did for my 'movies' share on my fileserver.
[12:04] <rootsnatch> I have tried Conky but no matter what I do with it runnin whenever I add anything to the desktop the desktop flickers
[12:04] <ForsakenSoul> just for the folder ... not the whole partition ?
[12:04] <warrenDumX> rootsnatch : isn't there one installed bby default ?
[12:04] <Dr_willis> but the  fact that its a ntfs filesystem - might be the issue
[12:04] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  you can do it that way if you want. I imagine.
[12:04] <rootsnatch> ya, but it doesn't give you any numbers it just has random graphs
[12:04] <rootsnatch> I want like menumeters on OS X for kde
[12:04] <rootsnatch> pretty much
[12:04] <warrenDumX> no there's another prog i think
[12:04] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis I'll try
[12:04] <Schorfi> rootsnatch: try a superkaramba script
[12:05] <rootsnatch> Schorfi: do you know of any good ones?  I can google around but any recommendations
[12:06] <Schorfi> rootsnatch: http://kde-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=high&page=0&xcontentmode=38 you should find one here i guess
[12:06] <Schorfi> and they are easy to edit to fit your needs
[12:07] <rootsnatch> ok cool thanks
[12:07] <Schorfi> youre welcome
[12:08] <kaminix> When right-clicking the KMenu in Hardy, it opens programs instead of giving me the menu edit option.
[12:08] <kaminix> Why?
[12:09] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis this didn't work
[12:10] <ForsakenSoul> can you guide me through the process
[12:10] <ForsakenSoul> just to see if I am doing everything right
[12:10] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  i manually edit my samba  /etc/samba/smb.conf file and just add a new share.
[12:10] <ForsakenSoul> btw I don't know if this is  relevant but I says that the network path isn't found in win
[12:12] <Malic> Hi! Can anyone tell me where i can find the bookmarks folder of firefox?
[12:12] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis well I actually never did learn how to do with in the smb.conf file :D
[12:12] <nhnFreespirit> Hi guys! I upgraded the GF's laptop ( Acer ferrari 4000 ) from gytsy to hardy last night, and since then it has been experiecngin random hard freezes where to only fix wahs tore start it completely ( killing x did not work, nor does any of th vt's )
[12:12] <Dr_willis> egads.. my 'pastebinit' command is not working!
[12:13] <Dr_willis> Oh the humaninty of it all...  This is a critical bug. Heh
[12:13] <nhnFreespirit> ... nice typing by me there....
[12:13] <ForsakenSoul> Malic if you want you can go to bookmarks in the firefox menu and click on manage bookmarks
[12:13] <nosrednaekim> Malic: yes, /.mozilla/firefox
[12:13] <nosrednaekim> Malic: that has an ATI, no?
[12:14] <nosrednaekim> ^^ n
[12:14] <nosrednaekim> ^^ nhnFreespirit
[12:14] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  my example samba conf file -->  http://paste.stgraber.org/2812
[12:14] <nosrednaekim> sorry... its early :P
[12:14] <nhnFreespirit> nosrednaekim: yes
[12:14] <nhnFreespirit> an x700 IIRC
[12:15] <Malic> nosrednaekim: thank you!
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> nhnFreespirit: did you install the fglrx driver?
[12:15] <nhnFreespirit> not on hardy, I did on gutsy though
[12:15] <ForsakenSoul> btw Dr_willis where was the smb.conf file
[12:15] <Dr_willis> in etc/samba  of course.
[12:15] <Malic> nosrednaekim: what you mean with ati? i have an ati card..
 ForsakenSoul,  i manually edit my samba  /etc/samba/smb.conf file and just add a new share.
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> Malic: sorry, I put int he wrong nick :P
[12:16] <ForsakenSoul> yep silly me
[12:16] <Malic> okay..
[12:16] <nhnFreespirit> nosrednaekim: I have not actively installed a new driver on hardy, I think I did back on gutsy though
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> nhnFreespirit: since it was an upgrade, the new driver came across as well
[12:17] <nhnFreespirit> nosrednaekim: should I try to remove these?
[12:17] <nosrednaekim> nhnFreespirit: I'd give it a shot and see if that fixes it
[12:17] <nhnFreespirit> nosrednaekim: ok, will do, thanks! :-)
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> nhnFreespirit: when exactly do these freezes occur
[12:18] <nhnFreespirit> nosrednaekim: at completely random times it seems
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> ok
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> is it over heating?
[12:19] <nhnFreespirit> unlikely since both freezes have been while idling or nearly so
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> ok
[12:20] <Dr_willis> I  Just dusted out one of my pc's...  :) its amazing how much crud those things can suck in
[12:22] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis one stupid question what was the command in the console to write in a file through root ?
[12:22] <nhnFreespirit> nosrednaekim: which driver should it use instead?
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> nhnFreespirit: "ati"
[12:22]  * nhnFreespirit is not really that fammiliar with *ubuntu
[12:22] <nhnFreespirit> nosrednaekim: ok, thanks
[12:23] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,   if you want to know how to 'edit' a file as root from the terminal...
[12:23] <Dr_willis> sudo vi /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:23] <Dr_willis> or use kdesudo or kdesu + a gui editor name
[12:23] <ForsakenSoul> ok
[12:23] <jussio1> or nano
[12:24] <Dr_willis> nano just annoys me too much. :)
[12:24] <Dr_willis> of all the editors out.. they could of picked a slightly better one.
[12:25] <nhnFreespirit> nosrednaekim: hehe, after removing the fglrx on, it frose, so now it has no driver. Wha is the correct way to make it use ati from the command line ( I assume manually hacking the xorg.conf is not the kubuntu way )
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> nhnFreespirit: that works :)
[12:27] <nhnFreespirit> nosrednaekim: no, it very decidely does not as X will not start at all now
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> did yuo go in and tell it to use ati in the xorg.conf?
[12:28] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis I took you example smb.conf modified it for my needs but now it asks for a pass
[12:28] <ForsakenSoul> where do I change the pass ?
[12:28] <nhnFreespirit> nosrednaekim: no, I was not sure that was the right way.  oh... thats what you meant with "that works :)"
[12:28] <nhnFreespirit> sorry
[12:28] <Dr_willis> 'sudo smbpasswd USERNAME'
[12:28]  * nhnFreespirit goes editing the xorg.conf file
[12:29] <Dr_willis> is how i set a user password for the linux box.  Theres proverly some setting to allow connection with no password.. but i never set that up
[12:30] <nhnFreespirit> ??!?!??
[12:30] <nhnFreespirit> wow!
[12:30] <nhnFreespirit> that was not the epected result
[12:30] <nhnFreespirit> expected*
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> nhnFreespirit: ?
[12:31] <Ghodmode> Regarding samba setup, if you set security = share in /etc/samba/smb.conf, you can set up shares that don't require passwords to be sent from Windows boxes.
[12:31] <nhnFreespirit> changing the driver to ati and restarting kdm resulted in the login screen being shown but being all messed up with thin horisontal flimmering lines all over the place
[12:31] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis how do I set it up without a pass and how can I assign a username to samba
[12:31] <ForsakenSoul> :D
[12:31] <nosrednaekim> woah
[12:32] <halle> anybody here who is good with sound/alsa?
[12:32] <nhnFreespirit> nosrednaekim: after a restart i look sok though...
[12:32] <Dr_willis> This is when we go back to the 'install the samba-doc package, and read the samba docs' :) comes into play
[12:32] <nhnFreespirit> looks ok*
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> nhnFreespirit: i've seen that before, forgot what it really is
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> nhnFreespirit: ko, good
[12:32] <Dr_willis> there is no username for samba. your linux users have samba passwords.
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> I hope that fixes the freezes
[12:32] <Dr_willis> a public share (i think) lets any legal user get in and access the dirs.
[12:32] <nhnFreespirit> nosrednaekim: ditto. We will give it a try and report back here if it does not
[12:33] <Ghodmode> Samba does maintain its usernames and passwords separately from the *nix usernames and passwords, but it always ties them to a valid *nix account
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> ok
[12:33] <Dr_willis> i always cheat and make my linux users have the same samba and linux passwords. :)
[12:34] <Dr_willis> theres some way to make them auto-sync. but i dont have a large enough lan to worry about that.
[12:34] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis well you must have noticed but I'm a complete noob but my situation is that when I open the ip to this pc from my win pc it gives me automatically the Guest username and wants a pass ... when I try to set a pass for Guest it says there is no such user
[12:34] <Ghodmode> to make them "auto-sync", look at the usernames map entry for smb.conf (man smb.conf)
[12:34] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  i always make my linux user name and windows user names the same also.  Windows is REALLY annoying at times and makes it a pain to login to  a share as a idfferent user.
[12:35] <surface> is kubuntu 8.04 a LTS version?
[12:35] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  what version of windows is this?
[12:35] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  the samba docs/configs also have special options for allowing 'guest' accounts.
[12:35] <ForsakenSoul> xp .. vista is too slow
[12:35] <Synergy_Peace> How can I remove a package that cannot be removed using adept in the console?
[12:36] <emilsedgh> Synergy_Peace: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[12:36] <Synergy_Peace> thanks
[12:37] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis as little as I understood I have to make a new linux user with the name of the win user and set it a pass with the command you gave me earlier ?
[12:37] <ForsakenSoul> or is there an easier painless way
[12:38] <ForsakenSoul> btw didn't think that sharing lin to win would be such a pain in the .... last time I must have been lucky I did it without any problems in ubuntu .... must have been lucky indeed
[12:38] <Dr_willis> a linux user needs a samba password in Addation to their normal password. Then when you connect from the windows box. it should ask for a user/password. You give it the linux users name/pass
[12:39] <ubuntu_> hello
[12:39] <Ghodmode> There's an easiser way.  My Windows User names are not on my Linux boxes.
[12:39] <Dr_willis> i always make a windows user and linux user on the machines with the SAME ussername.  I think it defaults to that user when trying to access the shares.
[12:39] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis no it just fixes to the Guest user
[12:39] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,   I never mess with 'guest' so you are on your own there. :)
[12:39] <ForsakenSoul> and I have no Guest user I think
[12:40] <Dr_willis> you can enable the guest access in the samba config some how.
[12:40] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis: you can enable the guest access in the samba config some how. ... that 'SOME HOW' part I don't like at all ;)
[12:40] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  how many times to i need to suggest the 'samba-doc' package...   and doing a little reading
[12:40] <ForsakenSoul> looks like I would have to annoy someone else ... I think I'll try the samba channel lets hope they help
[12:41] <Dr_willis> I recall knowing all i needed to know by chapter 4 of the book. :)
[12:41] <ForsakenSoul> thanks for the help Dr_willis and sorry for the annoyance D:
[12:41] <ForsakenSoul> :D
[12:41] <Dr_willis> those are some  VERY worthwhile readng to do.  I need to reread them some time.
[12:41] <ForsakenSoul> ok I'll try the samba-doc package ... but I'm never comfortable with those things
[12:41] <Dr_willis> Its amazing some of the things samba can do.
[12:42] <Dr_willis> You are more comfortable with getting advice from an unknown-skill-level person in chat rooms?
[12:42] <Dr_willis> heh...
[12:43] <ForsakenSoul> well yeah ... it's kinda risky but :D
[12:43] <Dr_willis> install samba-doc   go to  /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/  last i looked there were 3 books in there.
[12:43] <Dr_willis> index.html  manpages/  Samba3-ByExample/  Samba3-Developers-Guide/  Samba3-HOWTO/  samba.css  using_samba/
[12:44] <ForsakenSoul> samba3-byexamples samba3-howto and using_samba should be the ones for me
[12:44] <jussio1> !test
[12:44] <ubotu> Failed.
[12:45] <surface> is kubuntu 8.04 a LTS version?
[12:45] <klerfayt> no
[12:45] <klerfayt> !lts
[12:45] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[12:45] <klerfayt> !hardy
[12:45] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents
[12:45] <klerfayt> bleh
[12:46] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  file:///usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/using_samba/ch09.html   has info on 'guest' users
[12:47] <ForsakenSoul> ok thanks a lot and sorry again for losing your time :D
[12:47] <Illusion> hello folks
[12:47] <Illusion> does anybody knows where i can find the updates log?
[12:47] <Dr_willis> i need to set up my video shares so the wife can connect without needing a password. :)
[12:48] <Ghodmode> Illusion... which updates?
[12:48] <Synergy_Peace> I am trying to remove a stubbon file and got this output is there a flag to force removal
[12:48] <Synergy_Peace> synergy@synergy-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get autoremove lexmark-z700-cups-driver
[12:49] <Synergy_Peace> Reading package lists... Done
[12:49] <Illusion> the updates through apt-get update/adept manager
[12:49] <Synergy_Peace> Building dependency tree
[12:49] <Synergy_Peace> Reading state information... Done
[12:49] <Synergy_Peace> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[12:49] <Synergy_Peace>   lexmark-z700-cups-driver
[12:49] <Synergy_Peace> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:49] <Synergy_Peace> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[12:49] <Synergy_Peace> After this operation, 680kB disk space will be freed.
[12:49] <Synergy_Peace> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[12:49] <kaminix_> What's this? Get it when trying to reach the UIM settings panel.     Error: in scm_symbol_value: unbound variable: custom-group-label
[12:49] <Synergy_Peace> (Reading database ... 138436 files and directories currently installed.)
[12:49] <Synergy_Peace> Removing lexmark-z700-cups-driver ...
[12:49] <Synergy_Peace> /var/lib/dpkg/info/lexmark-z700-cups-driver.postrm: 2: /etc/init.d/cups: not found
[12:49] <Synergy_Peace> dpkg: error processing lexmark-z700-cups-driver (--remove):
[12:50] <Synergy_Peace>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[12:50] <Ghodmode> Illusion, this is just a guess, but see what's in /var/log/apt
[12:50] <Synergy_Peace> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:50] <Synergy_Peace>  lexmark-z700-cups-driver
[12:50] <Synergy_Peace> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:50] <Synergy_Peace> synergy@synergy-desktop:~$
[12:50] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  from what i am reading one may need to use   security = share   istead of secuity=user
[12:50] <Synergy_Peace> is there a way to force removal of a package?
[12:52] <Synergy_Peace> apt
[12:52] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis I will try ... btw why doesn't anyone today make short doc file ... :D
[12:52] <danakil> hello, does anybody else must use the "all_generic_ide" when I want to boot on Ubuntu ?
[12:52] <danakil> "all_generic_ide" boot argument
[12:53] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  have you bothered to google for this? theres 100000's of guides/docs/forums threads on the topic
[12:53] <tsb> How can I see which program captures input? KMilo is not responding to vol up/down, yet the volume does. I've killed xbindkeys.
[12:54] <Dr_willis> egads.. gnome/hardy isent seeing the windows network now. :(
[12:54] <Illusion> Ghodmode: what program do i need to open these logs?
[12:54] <Ghodmode> Please someone say "Hello Ghodmode".  I'm very new to IRC and, for all I know, messages aren't visible to everyone.
[12:54] <okv> How much extra space about would it take to upgrade to 8.04 from 7.10?
[12:54] <Illusion> kate doesn't work - the file looks empty
[12:54] <Dr_willis> Hello Ghodmode
[12:54] <danakil> hello Ghodmode <__<
[12:54] <okv> I just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 and I noticed that I've got only 1.3GB of free space, before the upgrade I had about 4GB
[12:54] <danakil> anybody for my boot argument problem ? :)
[12:54] <Illusion> with nano i can read the log properly
[12:54] <Synergy_Peace> how do I remove a stubbon package ?
[12:55] <abcd> can anyone check what are the commands for printing jobs and hplip toolbox - I've removed these entries from menu
[12:55] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis well I didn't thought that it would be a fast one liner fix ... btw with the security = share and the guest ok =yes and other guest options worked .. now I'm back to my first problem ... I doens't open the music folder beucase the permissions of the partition don't let it
[12:55] <Ghodmode> Thank you... at least I can get IRC working :)
[12:55] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  you MUST mount  the ntfs filesystem in a way that all users have access.
[12:56] <kaminix_> Error: in scm_symbol_value: unbound variable: custom-group-label          <--- What does this error mean and how do I fix it?
[12:56] <Dr_willis> ForsakenSoul,  ntfs-3g  has options for that.
[12:56] <kaminix_> ls
[12:56] <kaminix_> wops
[12:57] <ForsakenSoul> ok
[12:57] <ForsakenSoul> I'll look it up in google
[12:57] <TimS> The links to the 8.04 DVD iso only have 7.10 DVD isos, not 8.04 ones. Where can I get an 8.04 DVD iso?
[12:57] <TimS> Also, whats actually different about the DVD edition
[12:57] <danakil> there a lot more package
[12:57] <danakil> that's all
[12:57] <Synergy_Peace> synergy@synergy-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get purge lexmark-z700-cups-driver
[12:57] <Synergy_Peace> Reading package lists... Done
[12:57] <Synergy_Peace> Building dependency tree
[12:58] <Synergy_Peace> Reading state information... Done
[12:58] <Synergy_Peace> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[12:58] <Synergy_Peace>   lexmark-z700-cups-driver
[12:58] <Synergy_Peace> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:58] <Synergy_Peace> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[12:58] <Synergy_Peace> After this operation, 680kB disk space will be freed.
[12:58] <Synergy_Peace> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[12:58] <Synergy_Peace> (Reading database ... 138436 files and directories currently installed.)
[12:58] <Synergy_Peace> Removing lexmark-z700-cups-driver ...
[12:59] <jussi01> Synergy_Peace: please dont flood. Ill remove the mute in a moment.
[12:59] <assane> c ou le forom fr
[12:59] <jussi01> !paste | Synergy_Peace
[12:59] <ubotu> Synergy_Peace: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:59] <jussi01> !fr | assane
[12:59] <ubotu> assane: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:59] <Dr_willis> Dang it - Once again hardy is not seeing my samba shares/network with  Gnome, kde, or fusesmb.. same bug i reported during beta..
[13:00] <Dr_willis> well i will bbl
[13:00] <Synergy_Peace> please how do i remove this file
[13:01] <jussi01> Synergy_Peace: try sudo apt-get install -f
[13:02] <Zamber> after upgrading to 8.04 I have / instead of my Desktop folder. I presume somebody else had this issue to but I can't google it out. Any thoughts?
[13:03] <Zamber>  / instead of the /home/[]user/Desktop/ on the desktop ofcourse :P
[13:04] <Synergy_Peace> juss01 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[13:04] <Zamber> changing via systemsettings is trying to copy / to /home/[user]Desktop/ xD
[13:18] <snikker> in the kdm screen (login and post-login) i have a low resolution (i think 640x480), how can i set it a 1024x478???
[13:21] <abcd> Could anybody check what are the commands for printing jobs and hplip toolbox  for me ?
[13:22]  * junkysospunky waves
[13:23] <Synergy_Peace> i have a package which says it is not fully installed or removed  how do i fix please?
[13:23] <junkysospunky> install synaptic, and use the menu option 'fix broken packages'
[13:24] <klerfayt> junkysospunky: can you install synaptic if apt is broken?
[13:25] <junkysospunky> you can download the deb from the web, if you download it's dependencies as well
[13:25] <junkysospunky> then install with dpkg -i
[13:26] <lusum> hi
[13:26] <lusum> i would like the best methon on kubuntu to connect to a wireless wpa net with hidden ssid
[13:27] <lusum> i have tried knetworkmanager but it is not so cool like network manager of eeepc
[13:32] <JackWinter> anyone know a nice prog to check disk throughput ?
[13:33] <Dragnslcr> Is there a simple way to upgrade to 8.04 from the DVD? Figure I could save the servers a little bandwidth
[13:35] <ForsakenSoul> I'm trying to change permissions to a folder ... the command chmod 777 -R /path/to/someDirectory  doesn't work please some help
[13:37] <v6lur> chmod -R 777 /path/to/dir
[13:39] <Roey> like stødied hard for his class and got a 96%
[13:39] <Roey> doh
[13:39] <Roey> wrong chan, sorry
[13:39] <leleobhz> install kde4 into hardy kde3 is dangerous?
[13:39] <gourdin> hi there
[13:40] <gourdin> is there a problem to upgrade gutsy to hardy when kde4 is installed ?
[13:40] <leleobhz> (a.k.a. can i have kde3 and 4remix in same instalation?)
[13:40] <ForsakenSoul> v6lur still doesn't work
[13:41] <ForsakenSoul> I'm trying to change the permissions to a folder that is in a mounted ntfs partitions ... does that make nay difference
[13:42] <Dragnslcr> leleobhz- assuming it's the same as in 7.10, yes, KDE4 installs separately from KDE3
[13:43] <gourdin> Dragnslcr: so upgrading from 7.10 wont destroy my kde4 installation ?
[13:43] <Dragnslcr> I wouldn't think so, but I haven't tried it yet, so I can't say for sure
[13:44] <dreamcoder> is unrar working in 8.04 or still does winrar have to be installed on wine
[13:45] <xanax`> hello
[13:45] <devilsadvocate_> dreamcoder, ark has always been able to open rar for me...
[13:45] <dreamcoder> ah right i had alot of problems with gutsy espeacilay with password protected files
[13:46] <devilsadvocate_> ah. never tried pw protected ones myself. sorry
[13:46] <xanax`> I ran adept (on a kubuntu 8.04) and it has finished downloading packages but it takes AGES to complete the installation (it seems it freezes after downloading packages), is it normal ?
[13:46] <devilsadvocate_> xanax`, how long has it been?
[13:46] <ForsakenSoul> can someone tell me if there is a way to change the permissions to a ntfs partition so everyone can access it
[13:46] <xanax`> about 5 minutes now
[13:46] <ForsakenSoul> no only the user or the groupt
[13:46] <baoji> gourdin: it will tell you if it wants to remove any packages in the installation--then you'll have an option to approve or not.
[13:47] <dreamcoder> i still cant decide between gnome or kde argh
[13:47] <devilsadvocate_> xanax`, and you see no atcivity at all?
[13:47] <xanax`> nope
[13:47] <devilsadvocate_> dreamcoder, i never could either. i ened up using kde apps on gnome and gnome apps on kde :|
[13:48] <dreamcoder> lol
[13:48] <dreamcoder> same as me
[13:48] <xanax`> I did the same half an hour with only one package this time.. it took a long time too. But now, with 78 packages.. it seems adept wants to take its time...
[13:48] <devilsadvocate_> xanax`, can you open up a terminal and run "top". see if the package manger is eating up cpu (As in still running)
[13:48] <dreamcoder> for instance i like konversation on gnome
[13:48] <xanax`> ok
[13:48] <xanax`> oh, it works now
[13:48] <xanax`> settings in progress..
[13:49] <devilsadvocate_> dreamcoder, i'm behind a proxy, so xchat and pidgin are my gnome apps, and firefox with gtk
[13:49] <devilsadvocate_> xanax`, cool
[13:49] <xanax`> it's weird though, that it takes so much time after downloading packages..
[13:49] <dreamcoder> i couldnt get xchat to connect to multiple servers (Auto connect)unless i was using the wrong verison or something
[13:49] <devilsadvocate_> dreamcoder, my kde apps on gnome were amarok, yakuake, kmail, knode. decided to go with kde since a bulk of my stuff was from there
[13:50] <dreamcoder> yeah me too amorak and also ktorrent
[13:50] <dreamcoder> amarok*
[13:50] <dreamcoder> and also k3b
[13:50] <gourdin> baoji: I'm going to use apt-get distupgrade, is there a best way to do the upgrade ?
[13:51] <dreamcoder> i think it may be just that gnome looks more polished and its newer to me why i am contimplating which one to use
[13:51] <xanax`> thanks for your help, devilsadvocate_
[13:51] <xanax`> bye
[13:51] <devilsadvocate_> gourdin, i think there is an update-manager that is supposed to do it nicely
[13:51] <ForsakenSoul> can someone tell me if there is a way to change the permissions to a ntfs partition so everyone can access it or just a folder in that partition
[13:51] <DexterF> !sound
[13:51] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[13:52] <baoji> gourdin: sudo adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel
[13:52] <baoji> gourdin: then click the Upgrade button on the right side of the toolbar
[13:52] <gourdin> baoji: devilsadvocate_ thx !
[13:52] <dreamcoder> cant find something solid to sway me to either side gnome or kde though
[13:53] <devilsadvocate_> ForsakenSoul, there is. unfortunately i dont remember it now. it has to do with changing a thing or two in /etc/fstab
[13:54] <leleobhz> 09:42 < Dragnslcr> leleobhz- assuming it's the same as in 7.10, yes, KDE4 installs separately from KDE3
[13:54] <leleobhz> Dragnslcr: im using ppa-packages
[13:54] <leleobhz> its safe make a dist-upgrade or is best to reinstall everything
[13:54] <leleobhz> ?
[13:55] <dreamcoder> i always reinstall fresh and clean
[13:55] <dreamcoder> personal pref though
[13:55] <devilsadvocate_> ForsakenSoul, just a folder in the partition is much more tricky. im not sure if it can even be done without serious gymnastics. basically you need to add an option called allow_other to the mount options. i dont remember what exactly the syntax is, i'm afraid
[13:55] <devilsadvocate_> dreamcoder, that is often not an option on production systems
[13:56] <dreamcoder> yeah there is varying factors to consider
[13:56] <sigma_1234> i just installed kde4 in hardy. how do i get it to run kde4 and not kde3?
[13:56] <SlimeyPete> sigma_1234: use the session menu in the login manager
[13:56] <devilsadvocate_> sigma_1234, in the KDM (login screen) you select KDE4 in teh session menu
[13:56] <SlimeyPete> (on the right)
[13:57] <sigma_1234> and why can i not logout of kde3 anymore? the screen just goes blank
[13:58] <devilsadvocate_> sigma_1234, when you click on logout?
[13:59] <sigma_1234> yes
[14:00] <reese> try ctrl-alt-backspace
[14:01] <devilsadvocate_> ctrl-alt-backspace is a little too extreme to be a real fix...
[14:01] <devilsadvocate_> sigma_1234, you are able to shutdown / reboot fine?
[14:02] <snikker> in the kdm screen (login and post-login) i have a low resolution (i think 640x480), how can i set it a 1024x478???
[14:05] <sigma_1234> wait im testing something
[14:12] <v6lur> ForsakenSoul, you could try adding option "umask=0" to that partititions entry in /etc/fstab
[14:16] <snikker> in the kdm screen (login and post-login) i have a low resolution (i think 640x480), how can i set it a 1024x478???
[14:19] <ligemeget> wtf, why can't I download: http://kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=37030&id=1&tan=49454157 ?
[14:30] <dick-richardson> in kde4 how do you autostart an application?
[14:32] <ligemeget> not many supporters today, are there...?
[14:32] <v6lur> ligemeget, because that domain has expired
[14:32] <ligemeget> v6lur, but I want the theme... :(
[14:38] <v6lur> ligemeget, did you see the last comment at http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Universe+Crimson?content=37030
[14:39] <TimS> Holy hell! The updater crashed, yet after a restart, everything appears to still be working!
[14:39] <TimS> Exccept for sound. Well, I knew there would be a catch!
[14:40] <TimS> How can I find out what version I am running on the command line??
[14:40] <v6lur> what version of what?
[14:40] <ligemeget> v6lur, I wrote him
[14:41] <TimS> Oh ubuntu v6lur
[14:41] <TimS> I want to see if it think I am running Hardy
[14:41] <TimS> The sound works now too, awesome!
[14:42] <v6lur> ligemeget, well that seems to be all you can do... i googled the theme, and everywhere the download link just points at that expired/"parked" domain..
[14:45] <v6lur> TimS, 'lsb_release -a'
[14:45] <TimS> Okay
[14:45] <TimS> Awesome! I am running 8.04 hardy, even though the updater crashed and I got errors that Kubuntu-destop wasn't installed properly =]
[14:45] <anthony_> hi, I am having trouble enabling desktop effects on kubuntu 8.04 kde4
[14:46] <digistyl3> hi, what exactly changed in kubuntu considering the mounting of harddisks?
[14:47] <anthony_> enabling the nvidia accelerated graphics driver(latest cards) crashes kde after the splash screen,
[14:48] <devilsadvocate_> TimS, i would suggest you run an apt-get upgrade once again to make sure you didnt leave out any packages
[14:48] <TimS> Alright, cheers =]
[14:48] <TimS> I think i may need to re-enable repositories first
[14:49] <devilsadvocate_> TimS, you have your repos diabled?
[14:49] <TimS> I think it does in the update, does it not?
[14:50] <linuxlover> i am going to install wine on my kubuntu gutsy. i have added winehq repository in my /etc/sources.list and also added the gpg key. now, opened adept installer and i can see 'Wine Windows Emulator' under Office; and 'Windows Applications Wine Configuration' under Settings. which one should i install? or install both?
[14:50] <devilsadvocate_> it changes the repos to the newest ones. i dont really remember if it adds new ones, though
[14:50] <devilsadvocate_> linuxlover, Wine Windows Emulator. It should pull in the config one along with it
[14:51] <TimS> devilsadvocate_: Ones like medibuntu are disabled now, I am just changing them to hardy first
[14:51] <devilsadvocate_> TimS, ok
[14:52] <linuxlover> devilsadvocate : thank you for your quick reply. i am now going to install that one
[14:52] <TimS> devilsadvocate_: Something odd, adept looks different, the fonts are slightly blury and the style looks different to normal apps
[14:53] <devilsadvocate_> TimS, run a sudo apt-get update
[14:53] <TimS> Its only medibuntu packages that need updating, i am updating now
[14:54] <TimS> I think its because its running as root, its using different styles and fonts
[14:54] <devilsadvocate_> TimS, i suppose its possible. It may be because kde4 applications (if you are running kde4) have significantly differnet lok and feel than kde3 ones
[14:54] <TimS> No, I am still on kde3
[14:55] <TimS> Odd :p
[14:56] <TimS> Locate doesn't work anymore!
[14:56] <amerigo_> ! game
[14:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about game - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:56] <amerigo_> !games
[14:56] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[14:57] <devilsadvocate_> TimS, doesnt work as in?
[14:57] <Ax-Ax> How do you spell the plural form of 'activity'?
[14:57] <_julian> hi all
[14:57] <TimS> "locate: can not open `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': No such file or directory"
[14:57] <_julian> does kubuntu 8.04/kde4 offer compiz support?
[14:58] <devilsadvocate_> Ax-Ax, activities
[14:58] <Ax-Ax> :)
[14:58] <linuxlover> devilsadvocate: i am getting an error while trying to install wine. the error says, "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[14:58] <devilsadvocate_> TimS, strange. i dont know why an upgrade would break that
[14:59] <linuxlover> i have performed sudo apt-get update
[14:59] <TimS> devilsadvocate_: I have googled a bit, seems I need to do a "sudo updatedb"
[14:59] <devilsadvocate_> linuxlover, can you run "apt-get install wine" and pastebin the output?
[14:59] <linuxlover> devilsadvocate: sure, doing that
[14:59] <_julian> or does kde4 itself include usable desktop effects?
[15:00] <devilsadvocate_> _julian, it does
[15:00] <_julian> ah I just found it (c:
[15:00] <_julian> looking for a destop cube... I love that thing
[15:00] <devilsadvocate_> _julian, it doesnt have a desktop cube
[15:00] <devilsadvocate_> not yet, anyway
[15:00] <_julian> )c:
[15:01] <SSJ_GZ> _julian: Someone is writing one for his GSoC project.
[15:01] <_julian> ah cool
[15:01] <linuxlover> devilsadvocate: sudo apt-get install wine showing, "
[15:01] <linuxlover> Err http://wine.budgetdedicated.com gutsy/main wine 0.9.59~winehq0~ubuntu~7.10-1
[15:01] <linuxlover>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[15:01] <linuxlover> Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/pool/main/w/wine/wine_0.9.59~winehq0~ubuntu~7.10-1_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[15:01] <linuxlover> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[15:02] <devilsadvocate_> linuxlover, is there any specific reason you arent using ubuntu's package?
[15:03] <linuxlover> devilsadvocate: sudo apt-get isntall wine.... now the error :
[15:03] <linuxlover> Err http://wine.budgetdedicated.com gutsy/main wine 0.9.59~winehq0~ubuntu~7.10-1
[15:03] <linuxlover>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[15:03] <linuxlover> Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/pool/main/w/wine/wine_0.9.59~winehq0~ubuntu~7.10-1_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[15:03] <linuxlover> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[15:03] <linuxlover> sorry posted twice.........very sorry
[15:03] <devilsadvocate_> !pastebin > linuxlover
[15:03] <devilsadvocate_> hm
[15:03] <devilsadvocate_> anyway, its better to post things like that on pastebin.com or somthine to avoid flooding
[15:04] <Ahmuck> opening up adept, and finding all compiz packages and  "sudo aptitude purge blah blah" appears to fix the whole compiz problem
[15:05] <linuxlover> what is pastebin? don't know all these............ can i install wine for me?
[15:05] <devilsadvocate_> linuxlover, is there any specific reason you arent using ubuntu's package?
[15:05] <devilsadvocate_> linuxlover, why did you add the wine repo?
[15:06] <linuxlover> i searched in google and i found winehq. then i proceed as directed by them
[15:06] <devilsadvocate_> linuxlover, ok
[15:06] <devilsadvocate_> linuxlover, i suggest you remove the wine repository, run an apt-get update, and then try again
[15:07] <_julian> any suggestions for a kde3 style that better fits the oxygen style of kde4?
[15:08] <linuxlover> ok ..... but that is installing older version of wine (probably before 2005) because i got an error message with that installation of wine
[15:09] <devilsadvocate_> linuxlover, its wine 9.59
[15:09] <linuxlover> still if you suggest, i can install it once more
[15:09] <linuxlover> ok devilsadvocate, i going to install that once again
[15:09] <_julian> oh and another question: how do I configure  my side mousebuttons to do forward/backward in the browser?
[15:11] <Black_Monkey> hi, I just upgraded to hardy, and my mouse (USB, Logitech MX1000) isn't working - anyone else had this problem?
[15:11] <crashhandler> where can i found default kde startup sound,somewhere on the net?
[15:12] <devilsadvocate_> crashhandler, you can find it on your computer
[15:12] <devilsadvocate_> :P
[15:12] <devilsadvocate_> (if you have kde that is)
[15:12] <poseidon> Is there a command-line argument where I can give my root password, so that it doesn't prompt me.  ie I use kate a lot as sudo, and I would like to be able to put kdesudo kate and my password so it doesn't prompt me every time I open it
[15:12] <devilsadvocate_> poseidon, thats kindof against the whole idea of sudo
[15:13] <crashhandler> devilsadvocate_^ all of kde sound on my kubuntu suddenly,disappeared
[15:13] <crashhandler> :(
[15:13] <devilsadvocate_> crashhandler, as in the soundfiles disappeared?
[15:13] <poseidon> devilsadvocate_, It seems like i have to pretty much sudo everything.
[15:13] <crashhandler> devilsadvocate_ yes,fully disappeared
[15:15] <devilsadvocate_> poseidon, whatever you have to sudo to edit is a file that you should take care while editing.
[15:15] <devilsadvocate_> poseidon, i dont know of anything that will set the password across sessions, but suring one session (on one terminal) you can use sudo -s
[15:15] <devilsadvocate_> sudo -i*
[15:15] <anthony_> hi, i have a nvidia 7300 go on a laptop and enabling the nvidia accelerated graphics driver(latest cards) crashes kde after the splash screen,
[15:16] <poseidon> devilsadvocate_, ok, that will help a little.  Thanks
[15:17] <devilsadvocate_> crashhandler, strange. You can find the files somewhere, i guess, but i have a feeling the problem is elsewhere
[15:19] <linuxlover> devilsadvocate: installed wine 9.46 from ubuntu.... now may you please help me to install IE7 (already downloaded the .exe file)
[15:19] <soulrider_> linuxlover: are you sure you want ie 7?
[15:19] <linuxlover> yes
[15:20] <soulrider_> uhm ok
[15:20] <soulrider_> im guessing its like a regular install
[15:20] <soulrider_> where is your exe loated?
[15:20] <soulrider_> located*
[15:20] <linuxlover> soulrider: i am not able to run some application as they are not finding ie in my windows (here my wine)
[15:21] <soulrider> i see
[15:21] <soulrider> im not sure if ie7 works actually =/
[15:21] <soulrider> hold on, let me google, thatw ill be easier :P
[15:21] <linuxlover> ok........
[15:22] <soulrider> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/news/ check this out
[15:24] <linuxlover> opening that
[15:25] <linuxlover> soulrider: i need to install ie>ver 5
[15:25] <kreib> when copying a python file in the terminal by right click and pasting, a crazy amount of tabs are placed into the result. How to prevent this?
[15:25] <thecapt> hi
[15:26] <thecapt> I am having a problem with nvidia-settings, it detects one of the monitors as a 640x480 and I cannot find a way to override the wrong autodetected setting
[15:27] <kreib> edit xorg.conf at all the places where 640x480 and replace with your res of choice
[15:28] <thecapt> kreib, ok, is there also a way you know of of letting nvidia-settings to enable me to override it's findings? the button for it is disabled
[15:28] <kreib> no sorry, not using nvidia
[15:29] <soulrider> linuxlover: that also works for ie 6 and 7 i believe
[15:29] <kristian__> hi to al
[15:30] <linuxlover> soulrider: if i use 5
[15:30] <ElegantAngel> Hi all
[15:30] <ElegantAngel> on the new Hardy, which imlementation of Java works best ?
[15:31] <ElegantAngel> sun java ? openJDK ? free java ?
[15:31] <Diex> hi, someone speaking spanish ?
[15:31] <bazhang> !es
[15:31] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:31] <soulrider> ElegantAngel: IMO, sun always works best
[15:31] <ElegantAngel> thanks solrider
[15:33] <kreib> when copying a python file in the terminal by right click and pasting, a crazy amount of tabs are placed into the result. How to prevent this?
[15:33] <Nole> can someone help me get wine working on kubuntu dapper?
[15:34] <Algyz> Nole:  what's not working?
[15:34] <rohan> for anyone finding firefox really ugly by default in kubuntu hardy, i suggest doing "sudo aptitude install qtcurve", then go to kcontrol -> appereance -> gtk styles and fonts -> GTK Styles select "Use another style" - there select QtCurve
[15:34] <Nole> Algyz: im kinda lost on what to do
[15:34] <rohan> after that firefox looks absolutely cool, and well integrated with the kde theme too :)
[15:35] <Algyz> Nole:  $wine /way/to/your/file
[15:35] <Nole> Algyz: i have the .deb package on my desktop and now i dont konw what to do
[15:36] <Algyz> Nole:  .deb has nothing about wine
[15:36] <flipstar> he probably means wine.deb
[15:37] <Nole> yes
[15:37] <Algyz> Nole:  just click this .deb
[15:37] <verduz> I can't find an example of kubuntu 8.04 sources.list. Anyone can help me?
[15:37] <Algyz> Nole:  the other way is: sudo dpkg -i /way/to/deb/file
[15:37] <Nole> Algyz: then it loads ark and i get an error
[15:38] <Algyz> Nole:  then do this another way ;)
[15:38] <_julian> can anybody tell me how to configure imwheel to work with kde4? - imwheel -c detects the buttons like I want it to, but no events happen ie in konqueror
[15:39] <Nole> Algyz: thanks i think its working now
[15:39] <Algyz> I hope that :)
[15:39] <Nole> Algyz: its done installing i think
[15:40] <Nole> i should just be able to pop in a game and it should load now right?
[15:40] <ElegantAngel> someone know the besto solution for FLASH on AMD64 ?
[15:41] <Alex_alex>  hello everybody, I've got a question about kde. Where can I configure the positions of the icons in the kde desktop?
[15:41] <ElegantAngel> i mean using with Firefox ?
[15:41] <Alex_alex> I've got a transparent konsole and new icons are created behind it
[15:41] <flipstar> Alex_alex: just drag and drop them
[15:41] <flipstar> Nole: if it is a supported game, yes
[15:41] <Algyz> !flash | ElegantAngel
[15:41] <ubotu> ElegantAngel: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[15:41] <Nole> flipstar: ok
[15:42] <Alex_alex> the problems is new icons (when I insert a USB drive)
[15:42] <ElegantAngel> OK
[15:42] <ElegantAngel> thx ubotu
[15:42] <Alex_alex> (are, sorry for my english)
[15:42] <Algyz> Nole:  look for supported games in www.winehq.org
[15:42] <flipstar> !bot | Alex_alex
[15:42] <ubotu> Alex_alex: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot.   Pulseaudio is coming along and sortof replacing alsa in order to accomodate new cards.
[15:45] <jake> rohan: that made firefox look much nicer thanks.
[15:45] <Kiry> ah, so I'm not the only one who got nailed?
[15:45] <Kiry> don't feel *quite* so bad then
[15:45] <tseug> hello, i cannot get my Home folder to open.  when i click the Home icon, all my desktop items disappear and nothing else happens. this began after upgrading to Hardy.  any ideas how to fix this?
[15:45] <Kiry> is there a way to fix it?
[15:46] <jhutchins> Kiry: Yes, but I'm going to let someone more familiar with 8.10 help you.
[15:46] <Kiry> yeah!
[15:46] <tseug> the thing is, i can access my programs that are within Home using the terminal, but i can't cd to home directory itself, only in directory within Home folder
[15:46] <DaveDorm> y'all be nice to Kiry she's my padewan
[15:46] <weswh-> has anyone done a feisty => hardy upgrade?
[15:46] <tseug> yes
[15:47] <DaveDorm> but she's 200+ miles away and I can't help her :)
[15:47] <Nole> Algyz: i got it to run diablo so i guess i got it to work
[15:49] <vicky123_> hi everybody, i hav pentiun dual core processor. so which ubuntu i should download. (PC (Intel x86) desktop CD or 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD)?
[15:51] <Walzmyn_> vicky123 do you want 32 bit or 64 bit?
[15:51] <will00> ey im lookin to figure out how to transfer a call from my phone to my computer, anyone have any idea how to do that
[15:52] <Algyz> vicky123_:  how much ram do you have?
[15:52] <Algyz> weswh-:  after upgrade I had to reinstall everything :D
[15:53] <Algyz> System didn't boot, so I made fresh install
[15:53] <MilitantPotato> Same here Algyz, I got a busy box and nothing else
[15:53] <vicky123_> i have 512mb ram
[15:53] <Algyz> vicky123_:  use intel x86
[15:54] <vicky123_> can u plz explain me why
[15:54] <Algyz> vicky123_:  64 bits are for those with plenty of ram
[15:54] <MilitantPotato> vicky123_: the only real advantage to a desktop user for X64 is the ability to use more then 3.2gb of ram.  32 bit operating systems have a limit of 3.2gb
[15:54] <Algyz> if machine has =<2GB of it, i'd recommend x86
[15:55] <vicky123_> i hav another 128mb ram if reqd. i can use that also
[15:55] <vicky123_> ok i got it
[15:55] <Algyz> vicky123_:  no, use alternate
[15:55] <vicky123_> ok thanx buddy
[15:55] <MilitantPotato> vicky123_: Most applications are made for 32 bit, it's much easier to get hardware and software working in 32 bit also.  :)
[15:55] <flipstar> btw with the HIGHMEM option the 32bit kernel also supports more than 4gb
[15:56] <Algyz> vicky123_:  I'm afraid live cd will not boot on 128MB
[15:56] <Walzmyn_> I didn't realize 32 bit was limited to 3.2Gb of ram
[15:56] <Algyz> flipstar:  yeah, I heard this somewhere :)
[15:56] <vicky123_> no . i'm saying i can add that ram also with 512mb
[15:56] <MilitantPotato> It's really 4gb Walzmyn_but video memory and the bios use up a lot of it.
[15:56] <Algyz> vicky123_:  not sure, ask specialists
[15:57] <flipstar> vicky123_: 64bit will probably bring more trouble for you than benifits
[15:57] <Algyz> vicky123_:  normally when people buying ram, it's better to do ramtest
[15:57] <Walzmyn_> MilitantPotato, ah.
[15:57] <MilitantPotato> vicky123_: it's best not to mix and match RAM, linux doesn't need much, but you could try it.  It might cause instability.
[15:57] <Algyz> vicky123_:  better don't do it
[15:57] <Algyz> 512 is enough
[15:57] <MilitantPotato> vicky123_: buying identical ram sticks is generally the best way to go, especially if your computer can do dual channel RAM
[15:58] <Algyz> yeah
[15:58] <Walzmyn_> Any body here familiar with KVM?
[15:58] <Walzmyn_> vicky123_ how fast is your processor?
[15:58] <Nole> can someone help mw with running diablo in wine
[15:59] <vicky123_> 2.66gHz
[15:59] <MilitantPotato> Nole: try #winehq
[15:59] <will00> can anyone tell me how to use my computer as a bluetooth headset for my phone?
[15:59] <MilitantPotato> will00: heavy headset :)
[16:00] <Walzmyn_> vicky123_ Wow, I would think you'd want more RAM just to satisfy your processor
[16:00] <Algyz> Nole:  try in #winehq
[16:00] <Nole> Algyz: i did
[16:00] <Algyz> nobody?
[16:00] <Algyz> what kind of trouble?
[16:01] <Ahmuck> man, hardy is seriously problematic
[16:01] <MilitantPotato> Nole: diablo 2?
[16:01] <Nole> how do i change my res back to normal if a program resizes it and doesn't change it back
[16:02] <Nole> MilitantPotato: original diablo
[16:02] <Algyz> Ahmuck:  seems that :|
[16:02] <will00> militantpotato, is that a package that needs to be installed?
[16:02] <Algyz> Ahmuck:  reinstalled everything today after upgrade :D
[16:02] <Ahmuck> compiz really screws it up
[16:02] <Ahmuck> purging does not help
[16:02] <Algyz> seems like beta :)
[16:02] <flipstar> Ahmuck: try running <kwin --replace>
[16:02] <MilitantPotato> will00: I'm not sure
[16:02] <will00> hmmm
[16:02] <Algyz> firefox beta included :)
[16:03] <MilitantPotato> I installed firefox 2
[16:03] <Nole> MilitantPotato: i try to play it and it just crashes
[16:03] <MilitantPotato> had to edit some script file for java to work, but otherwise I'm happy with gutsy
[16:03] <will00> militantpotato what exactly is heavy handset
[16:03] <MilitantPotato> Nole: origional seems to not work well, check ttp://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=49
[16:03] <MilitantPotato> er, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3498
[16:04] <Nole> oh than ill install 2
[16:04] <MilitantPotato> will00: carying a PC around to use as a headset :)
[16:04] <Algyz> Nole:  start from terminal and look, what errors it's causing
[16:04] <Nole> MilitantPotato: do you know what the video card requirement for d2 is
[16:04] <will00> -_-
[16:04] <Algyz> Nole:  $wine /program
[16:04] <MilitantPotato> Nole: nope, try google
[16:05] <will00> militantpotato so is there a way to connect my phone to my computer so i can use the mic and speaks on the comp?
[16:05] <MilitantPotato> will00: I've no idea, sorry
[16:05] <Nole> will00: look on hackaday i think theres on on there
[16:05] <will00> ok
[16:05] <Ahmuck> Algyz: beta was more stable than this
[16:06] <Ahmuck> seriously, firefox3 and some of the other "beta" stuff should have been saved for the next release
[16:06] <Nole> will00: or on i-hacked.com i remember seeing a tutorial on that somewhere
[16:06] <will00> ok
[16:07] <MilitantPotato> Ahmuck: Firefox beta has been marked as ready for the public
[16:08] <MilitantPotato> Ahmuck: all they're doing in the final is some minor GUI updates
[16:08] <Walzmyn_> I get these names goofed up, which one's gusty?
[16:08] <MilitantPotato> 7.10
[16:09] <MilitantPotato> they're all alphabetical, gutsy= 7.10, hardy = 8.04
[16:09] <MilitantPotato> the 9.10 will start with an i
[16:09] <Nole> hey they are aphebitical
[16:09] <Algyz> I was hoping to stay with kubuntu....
[16:09] <Walzmyn_> MilitantPotato, well. I'd missed the alphabetical bit
[16:09] <Algyz> But after adept upgrade today system did not started :|
[16:10] <Algyz> So now I have ubuntu 8.04 in another partition :)
[16:10] <Algyz> not kubuntu
[16:10] <MilitantPotato> Algyz: install kubuntu-desktop
[16:10] <MilitantPotato> and walla :)
[16:10] <Algyz> because somehow kubuntu isn't LTS :(
[16:10] <Walzmyn_> So, is anybody here familiar with KVM?
[16:10] <Algyz> Yeah, I know, thx :)
[16:10] <Algyz> MilitantPotato:  I think I'll do this one day
[16:10] <dthacker> Algyz: there are good reasons that kubuntu is not LTS
[16:11] <Algyz> why so?
[16:11] <MilitantPotato> KDE 3.5 is being phased out
[16:11] <Algyz> Fortunately I have FreeBSD, which I'm using now :)
[16:11] <dthacker> briefly, because of KDE4.  but that is an offtopic discussion
[16:11] <Algyz> I like KDE 3.5 :)
[16:11] <Algyz> okay, sry
[16:12] <Walzmyn_> LTS?
[16:12] <dthacker> long term support
[16:12] <Algyz> Long Time Suppor
[16:12] <Algyz> term
[16:12] <Walzmyn_> ah
[16:12] <Algyz> Sry, english is not my native :)
[16:12] <Ahmuck> MilitantPotato: in firefox beta, radio buttons do not work properly
[16:13] <dthacker> Algyz: you do just fine :)
[16:13] <Walzmyn_> Algyz, ha! your english looks pretty good to me
[16:13] <Ahmuck> MilitantPotato: in addition, there very few extensions, one of those, firebug, is not installable