[00:11] <mup> PR snapcraft#3910 closed: unit tests: minor improvement to fixture usage <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3910>
[00:11] <mup> PR snapcraft#3911 closed: requirements: update craft-providers to 1.4.2 <Created by mr-cal> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3911>
[10:27] <mup> PR snapcraft#3912 opened: discovery.py: correct comment, "extensions" should say "plugins" <Created by rpjday> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3912>
[12:07] <mup> PR snapcraft#3913 opened: nil.py: enhance the explanation of when the nil plugin is useful <Created by rpjday> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3913>


[00:02] <cyphermox> no, I'm still around just critically low battery
[00:02] <cyphermox> just a sec
[00:03] <cyphermox> humm, no charger
[00:03] <cyphermox> if you're still around in about an hour I can finish reviewing it and ack it
[00:15] <pmcgowan> rtm silo - seems approved but not so noted
[00:15] <pmcgowan> silo 0
[00:28] <robru> alex-abreu|off: https://code.launchpad.net/~abreu-alexandre/ubuntu-html5-theme/rtm-content-picker-ui-fix/+merge/254644 need this mp approved.
[00:46] <cyphermox> robru: ok I'm back
[00:47] <robru> cyphermox: still here
[00:52] <cyphermox> robru: wouldn't libqtdbusmock need a FFE?
[00:53] <cyphermox> it does affect hud at least which isn't strictly touch, even if it's just testing things
[00:54] <robru> cyphermox: Hmmmmmmm, seems so doesn't it?
[00:54] <cyphermox> given it's for testing and it seems unlikely that the "new features" impact hud in any way, perhaps check with #u-release first?
[00:56] <robru> cyphermox: sounds reasonable. You wanna ping them or should I?
[00:56] <cyphermox> please do. I've been forbidden of spending all evening on the computer tonight :)
[01:01] <robru> Haha OK.
[02:10] <imgbot> [03:45] <imgbot> [03:45] <imgbot> [07:52] <sil2100> jibel, Mirv: how about we cancel today's morning meeting? Since there will be probably just the 3 of us there
[07:59] <jibel> sil2100, morning, OK to cancel
[08:00] <jibel> sil2100, do you know the status of rtm/silo-6
[08:00] <sil2100> RTM 006? It's not allocated from what I see
[08:00] <sil2100> It landed yesterday it seems
[08:01] <jibel> sil2100, nm, it landed
[08:01] <sil2100> jibel: let's have a new image then, what do you think?
[08:01] <jibel> sil2100, yes, I was about to suggest it
[08:02] <jibel> sil2100, john-mcaleely said there is a new device tarball for RTM but I don't see a card for it
[08:03] <jibel> sil2100, because robru requested that he doesn't any longer use the spreadsheet for it
[08:03] <sil2100> jibel: he didn't yet fill the info in the spreadsheet too, so I suppose it's not entirely ready
[08:03] <jibel> sil2100, do you know what the problem is?
[08:03] <sil2100> Oh
[08:03] <sil2100> hm, not sure why
[08:04] <sil2100> jibel: no idea, I see that the spreadsheet has all the things required for that
[08:04] <sil2100> I mean, all the features
[08:05] <jibel> sil2100, it's on the tarballs sheet
[08:05] <sil2100> Why did he create a seperate sheet for that?
[08:07] <sil2100> hm, don't have any e-mail from him sadly
[08:07] <sil2100> Well, the only problem is that we'll have to change the scripts for that now
[08:07] <sil2100> And it wasn't well communicated
[08:08] <sil2100> hm, looks like there are 2 device tarballs for RTM?
[08:08] <sil2100> I suppose both are ready
[08:09]  * sil2100 pokes imgbot about the image that's building right now
[08:10] <imgbot> [08:23] <jibel> sil2100, john-mcaleely said he is not sure why there are 2, the right tarball is b430246
[08:23] <sil2100> jibel: I'll remove the upper one then
[08:24] <jibel> sil2100, I'll do the verification.
[08:25] <sil2100> jibel: thanks o/
[08:58] <jibel> interesting, flashed the device tarball and I'm stuck on the bq screen
[09:23] <jibel> and now a mediascanner crash
[09:26] <sil2100> Ouch
[09:27] <sil2100> Is that all related to the device tarball? I need to check the changes
[09:30] <jibel> sil2100, sanity pass, no problem with brightness which is what this device tarball fixes, but I cannot play video and there is no preview. I don't see how it could be this change unless something else slipped in
[09:30] <imgbot> [09:30] <imgbot> [09:30] <jibel> sil2100, sanity doesn't entirely pass, since I cannot play video, checking that right now
[09:31] <jibel> I'm wondering if it's the first boot thing we use to have
[09:31] <sil2100> hmmm, I need to check something
[09:31] <jibel> something like bug 1419875
[09:32] <sil2100> I'm wondering if this tarball doesn't have a few more changes
[09:33] <sil2100> No, actually even if, it's nothing related
[09:33] <sil2100> nvm
[09:35] <jibel> this is the mediascanner crash https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/9abc4ab0-d9e3-11e4-ae16-fa163e22e467
[09:35] <jibel> cannot do anything with that
[09:36] <jibel> videos play fine after a reboot
[09:37] <jibel> and there is a preview
[09:38] <jibel> sil2100, I think it is the same bug than mentioned above
[09:50] <sil2100> Those 'doesn't work on first boot' issues keep me worried, do we know if anyone was able to take a look at those?
[09:53] <jibel> sil2100, I'm reflashing 262 with the device tarball to see if I can reproduce then 262 without
[09:53] <jibel> but the device tarball looks fine to me
[10:05] <sil2100> jibel: ok, is it signed off then? Or do you want to double check with an earlier image first?
[10:05] <jibel> sil2100, I'm checking 262
[10:05] <jibel> it shouldn't take more than 15 minutes
[10:12] <jibel> sil2100, same problem with 262 without the tarball
[10:12] <jibel> sil2100, +1 to land
[10:12] <sil2100> jibel: thanks!
[10:13] <jibel> sil2100, but really someone has too look at this problem
[10:13] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: I know you're probably away, but you're good to go with the tarball :)
[10:13] <sil2100> jibel: yeah, I know, not sure which team to poke though, this seems like something that's spanning on multiple projects
[10:13] <sil2100> So maybe someone from phone foundations?
[10:13] <jibel> sil2100, start with jhodapp and rsalveti
[10:14] <jibel> sil2100, the video not playing is really visible and a good place to start
[10:15] <jibel> sil2100, 262 will only be available through OTA so it won't affect the users
[10:15] <jibel> or next promotion
[10:20] <jibel> sil2100, 262 I cannot access the device over usb
[10:21] <jibel> it doesn't make sense
[10:21] <sil2100> There were no changes related to that, actually the only change was the indicator-network and push-client
[10:22] <sil2100> jibel: no MTP or completely no communication?
[10:22] <jibel> sil2100, no mtp and no adb
[10:22] <jibel> but the device is visible on the usb bus
[10:23] <jibel> I've this error in syslog, I don't know what it means
[10:23] <jibel> Apr  3 12:19:51 herm kernel: [11214.082991] usb 1-3.2: can't set config #1, error -12
[10:24] <jibel> reflashing 261 in case it is a problem with the host
[10:25] <jibel> hm, fastboot doesn't work either. Rebooting the host, brb
[10:28] <sil2100> jibel: did it help?
[10:28] <jibel> works fine after a reboot
[10:29] <jibel> it could be part of the problem I have with arale
[11:01]  * sil2100 needs to go to lunch
[11:01] <sil2100> Not sure if there's anyone else to manage the train
[11:01] <sil2100> I should be back in ~1h
[13:05] <sil2100> Oh, yeah, topic
[13:09] <jhodapp> jibel, what landed in 262, do you have the list of packages?
[13:12] <pmcgowan> sil2100, silo 5 has been tested by seb and I, it can go to QA
[13:13] <sil2100> pmcgowan: ok, let me mark it so then
[13:13] <sil2100> pmcgowan: on which image did you test it?
[13:14] <pmcgowan> 261 for me and 262 for seb
[13:14] <jibel> jhodapp, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/262.changes
[13:14] <jibel> jhodapp, the major change is indicator-datetime, ubuntu-push was just a bug fix
[13:15] <jhodapp> jibel, this has to have been a problem before that, none of those should cause this
[13:15] <jibel> jhodapp, indicator-network*
[13:15] <sil2100> indicator-network ;)
[13:15] <sil2100> pmcgowan: thanks
[13:15] <jhodapp> more likely to have been 261
[13:15] <jibel> jhodapp, your talking about no vids on first boot?
[13:15] <jhodapp> yeah
[13:16] <jibel> jhodapp, yes it's similar to bug 1419875
[13:16] <jhodapp> jibel, ok
[13:16] <jibel> reported early February
[13:17] <jhodapp> jibel, any chance you can figure out which image it started in?
[13:17] <jibel> jhodapp, but not specific to the camera app, even video on the SD Card cannot play on first boot
[13:19] <pmcgowan> seb128, I have my phone in an odd state, system is in US and settings is in german after I hit cancel when selecting german
[13:19] <ogra_> dont cancel ze german !
[13:19] <pmcgowan> od but shouldnt matter
[13:20] <pmcgowan> just going back to the lang settings and out fixed it
[13:21] <pmcgowan> happens every time -> bug
[13:22] <tedg> Are all the vivid silos still in use?
[13:22] <sil2100> tedg: no, we have free ones now
[13:22] <sil2100> tedg: what's up?
[13:23] <tedg> sil2100, We've got some bug fixes that I could land, but don't need to push for. So was asking to start planning my day :-)
[13:24] <sil2100> tedg: we have around 5 silos free right now, but QA capacity is a bit limited today :)
[13:25] <seb128> pmcgowan, yeah, it's a bug, I though we had it fixed ... maybe another fix that is in vivid only, let me have a look
[13:27] <seb128> pmcgowan, https://launchpad.net/bugs/1377984
[13:28] <pmcgowan> seb128, thanks
[13:28] <seb128> pmcgowan, I confirm, the fix is not in the rtm serie
[13:28] <seb128> but in vivid
[13:31] <sil2100> Not a super critical issue, but the fix seems straightforward
[13:59] <jibel> alesage, why is rtm/silo 3 blocked? the diff and the comment on the dashboard say it is just an icon change
[14:09] <sil2100> jibel: Allan's comment says there was a problem with the button, but probably unrelated to the change itself?
[14:10] <jibel> sil2100, I'm checking what he means.
[14:15] <pmcgowan> jibel, its not a button its an icon in the indicator
[14:19] <sil2100> Yeah, that's why we think the comment on the trello board doesn't make much sense
[14:20] <jibel> and the silent mode toggle works fine
[14:28] <alesage> jibel, sil2100 fair enough I'm overruled, if the icon indeed changes
[14:30] <jibel> alesage, I verified and approved it. Can you take rtm/5 'reply to SMS from the notification'
[14:30] <alesage> jibel, ok
[14:34] <tedg> trainguards, can I get silos for lines 48-50 please?
[14:34] <sil2100> tedg: on it right now ;) In a meeting though so it might take some moments
[14:35] <tedg> np, thanks sil2100!
[14:48] <dbarth> sil2100: silo 000 is unblocked with the merge approval
[14:49] <sil2100> dbarth: o/
[14:49] <jibel> sil2100, the calendar sync was silo 30 in vivid not RTM.
[14:59] <pmcgowan> sil2100, the MR for silo 0 got approved but still stuck, can we kick it?
[15:00] <sil2100> pmcgowan: on it now, had some technical issues
[15:00] <pmcgowan> vg
[15:00] <sil2100> pmcgowan: ugh, sadly, it's still blocked
[15:00] <sil2100> Needs a rebuild
[15:00] <sil2100> alex-abreu|off needs to stop pushing new commits to his branches after those are built in silos
[15:01] <sil2100> dbarth: silo 000 needs a rebuild ^
[15:02] <pmcgowan> bah
[15:03] <dbarth> sil2100: uh really?
[15:03] <sil2100> dbarth: yeah, 22 hours ago a commit has been pushed
[15:03] <dbarth> sil2100: hmm; let me do that; we have an ap test protecting the silo anyway
[15:04] <dbarth> right a dependency
[15:05] <dbarth> sil2100: however, do we need to re-pass via qa in that case ?
[15:05] <sil2100> dbarth: it probably won't require a re-test
[15:05] <sil2100> dbarth: no, I think it's fine as it is, just a rebuild
[15:14] <dbarth> sil2100: ok
[15:19] <sil2100> dbarth: ok, signing off automatically
[15:19] <sil2100> jibel: ^
[15:20] <sil2100> jibel: rebuild only touches test dependencies
[15:22] <jibel> sil2100, ok
[15:22] <dbarth> cool
[15:33] <sil2100> jibel, robru: I know this sounds dodgy, but do we have anything to discuss on the meeting?
[15:46] <sil2100> jibel, robru: would there be any objections for calling off the meeting?
[15:49] <jibel> sil2100, no objection
[15:51] <sil2100> robru: no meeting ;D You can sleep a bit longer
[15:52] <om26er> awe_, ^ its landing.
[15:54] <awe_> thanks om26er!
[15:56] <jibel> sil2100, once silo 5 lands it'd be nice to rebuild an image, the queue of RTM silos is empty
[15:57] <sil2100> I guess we could do that, not sure if we'll have anything else landing later today anyway
[15:57] <sil2100> jibel: what about silo 4?
[15:57] <jibel> sil2100, verification failed
[15:58] <jibel> sil2100, without the silo whoopsie is always enabled, and with the silo it is always disabled
[15:58] <jibel> not really an improvement
[15:58] <jibel> I think the fix in silo 4 is correct but something is missing
[15:59] <jibel> alesage, any ETA foor silo 5?
[15:59] <jibel> -o
[15:59] <sil2100> jibel: ACK, well, I suppose we'll have to wait for ogra_ to be back next week then
[15:59] <alesage> jibel, working on, 30 minish
[15:59] <jibel> sil2100, yes, that's a Tuesday thing
[15:59] <jibel> alesage, cool, thanks
[16:07] <om26er> cihelp ping
[16:07] <om26er> cihelp how can I get right access to rtm dashboard ?
[16:10] <ogra_> jibel, yeah, the fix is wrong, that needs a few bigger changes
[16:10] <ogra_> (in the build system)
[16:10] <josepht> om26er: do you have write access to the main dashboard?
[16:11] <om26er> josepht, not sure, I haven't opened that and don't have the link as well
[16:12] <josepht> om26er: http://ci.ubuntu.com/  I'm assuming you want to add bug descriptions?
[16:13] <om26er> josepht, need to categories test failures
[16:14] <om26er> josepht, yes, I have access there.
[16:14] <om26er> I mean I have write access on ci.ubuntu.com
[16:15] <ev> josepht: http://rtm-dashboard.ci.ubuntu.com, no?
[16:15] <josepht> om26er: that's all driven by LP groups
[16:15] <josepht> ev: I think he has that link
[16:15] <ev> ah okay
[16:17] <josepht> om26er: after logging in do you see the edit fields here? http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/vivid/touch/mako/159:20150402:20150210/12562/mediaplayer_app/2117636/
[16:18] <om26er> josepht, yes, I can save cause for failure there.
[16:18] <om26er> just need same access level for rtm dashboard.
[16:19] <josepht> om26er: after a bit more digging, we haven't enabled this in the rtm-dashboard
[16:20] <om26er> josepht, oh, ok. I was investigating those failures so thought categorizing them would help better understanding.
[16:20] <om26er> josepht, thanks for looking into this.
[16:20] <josepht> om26er: np, sorry I couldn't help more.
[16:23] <sil2100> robru: you have a national holiday today too?
[16:36] <sil2100> Ok, it seems so
[16:36] <sil2100> kenvandine: ping :)
[16:38] <kenvandine> sil2100, pong
[16:39] <sil2100> kenvandine: once I'm EOD, could you do some trainguarding today? :)
[16:39] <sil2100> kenvandine: velocity is really low so not much work, but Canada seems to be off today
[16:39] <kenvandine> sil2100, sure
[16:39] <sil2100> So there's no one to take care of the train
[16:39] <sil2100> Thanks! :(
[16:39] <sil2100> *:)
[16:39] <kenvandine> np
[16:40] <kenvandine> sil2100, quick question
[16:41] <kenvandine> if i have a landing that doesn't really change settings code, just white space cleanup and improved dbus mock template, does it still need qa verification?
[16:44] <kenvandine> sil2100, oh, i don't have a landing tools menu in the spreadsheet
[16:44] <sil2100> kenvandine: oh?
[16:44] <sil2100> kenvandine: refresh
[16:44] <kenvandine> i just opened it :)
[16:45] <sil2100> kenvandine: hmmm, mock template you say? I suppose in this case if it builds, it should be good to go
[16:45] <kenvandine> right
[16:45] <sil2100> kenvandine: sometimes it doesn't appear instantly I noticed
[16:45] <kenvandine> just better networkmanager dbusmock template
[16:45] <sil2100> But I guess it should be visible to everyone
[16:45]  * kenvandine closes and reopens
[16:46] <kenvandine> shift reload didn't seem to do it
[16:46] <jibel> sil2100, dobey on the QA board there is a card for pay-ui but nothing on the spreadsheet. Any idea what it is?
[16:46] <kenvandine> so weird...
[16:46] <kenvandine> now it's there
[16:47] <sil2100> jibel: hm, indeed I don't see it, nothing that I would know
[16:47] <sil2100> jibel: maybe it got added during the spreadsheet crazyness?
[16:47] <sil2100> Ah, probably that's the case
[16:48] <sil2100> jibel: yeah, it's an old landing
[16:48] <sil2100> jibel: I see it in the archives, it's a leftover from yesterdays crazy spreadsheets
[16:48] <jibel> sil2100, OK, I can safely remove it?
[16:48] <sil2100> jibel: I would say yes
[16:49] <jibel> \o/ 1 request left
[16:53] <kenvandine> sil2100, when do you eod?
[16:55] <sil2100> kenvandine: I would love to in around 30 minutes :)
[16:57] <kenvandine> sil2100, that's fine, i should grab some lunch then :)
[16:57] <kenvandine> i'll add the highlight now so i'll see pings in case you leave before i get back
[16:59] <pmcgowan> sil2100, whats the story with silo2? QA signed off earlier
[17:01] <dobey> jibel: it's from the spreadsheet getting all confused and bringing things back that weren't supposed to be there
[17:02] <sil2100> pmcgowan: it's publishing itself as we speak
[17:02] <sil2100> kenvandine: \o/ thanks :)
[17:02] <pmcgowan> sil2100, ty
[17:04] <pmcgowan> sil2100, any idea on silo 4, or we just wait for ogra
[17:04] <sil2100> pmcgowan: we need to wait for ogra_, it failed QA verification and needs some more work
[17:04] <ogra_> pmcgowan, silo 4 is the wrng fix, te right fix requires some bigger changes to the build system
[17:04] <pmcgowan> ok thanks
[17:05] <ogra_> (only found that today with Laney )
[17:05] <ogra_> i need to add a script to livecd-rootfs to provide the file that whoopsie wants to change
[17:06] <ogra_> (and that won be silo-able)
[17:06] <ogra_> *wont
[17:06] <alesage> sil2100, silo 5 RTM approved
[17:06] <sil2100> alesage: \o/
[17:06] <alesage> that's a helpful fix btw, saw that one myself
[17:07] <alesage> may fix some bugs in my personal relationships as well ;)
[17:07] <pmcgowan> hah!
[17:07] <sil2100> Once those things migrate we'll have a new image :)
[17:08] <sil2100> Oh no, unapproved!
[17:08] <sil2100> https://code.launchpad.net/~tiagosh/telephony-service/rtm-14.09-fix-1423942/+merge/250498 <- who could top-approve this? Or should I override?
[17:08] <pmcgowan> om26er, do you know which bugs silo 2 fixed
[17:08] <pmcgowan> sil2100, I can approve it
[17:09] <pmcgowan> sil2100, happroved
[17:09] <ogra_> pmcgowan, then we'll have you fix the bugs it introduces :)
[17:09] <pmcgowan> ogra_, seems fair
[17:09] <pmcgowan> arent you on holiday
[17:09] <om26er> pmcgowan, bug 1413672 only
[17:09] <pmcgowan> tanks
[17:10] <ogra_> pmcgowan, yeah ... relaxing by reading G+ apins (and crying, seems they really dont want you to share pics or videos easily>)
[17:10] <ogra_> *apis
[17:11] <robru> sil2100: ah sorry, yes it's Good Friday today (easter).
[17:11] <robru> sil2100: what tooling exists for the tarballs on the pending sheet? I had to take those out because queuebot went crazy and was spamming about the tarballs every 30s.
[17:12] <sil2100> robru: no worries, that's just experimental tooling, we'll talk about that after the holidays, we use it rarely
[17:12] <sil2100> There's one menu item for it and brendand's trello scripts using it
[17:14] <robru> sil2100: yeah we should have a meeting with john + qa and figure a better system for communicating those, I don't think the spreadsheet is a good place (since we're trying to get rid of it, and I don't see how it would work in the ticket system side without an enormous amount of effort)
[17:21] <sil2100> robru: it was just a simple solution which generally worked and served it purpose, it wasn't meant to be anything bigger
[17:31] <pmcgowan> sil2100, did we figure out where that cal sync fix went?
[17:31] <sil2100> pmcgowan: yeah, it seems it was a vivid landing
[17:31] <sil2100> No RTM one yet
[17:32] <pmcgowan> renato___, are you around today?
[17:41] <sil2100> pmcgowan: I guess everything migrated correctly, let me kick a new ubuntu-rtm image :)
[17:42] <pmcgowan> sil2100, awesome
[17:44] <sil2100> Kicking
[17:50] <imgbot> [17:57] <sil2100> kenvandine: I go EOD now, happy holidays :)
[17:57] <sil2100> Happy holidays everyone o/
[18:32] <tedg> Wait, I get to harass kenvandine as trainguard! I need ONE MILLION silos!
[18:32] <kenvandine> thankfully i have /ignore
[18:32] <tedg> Haha, you can't ignore queuebot!
[18:33] <kenvandine> doh!
[18:33] <kenvandine> tedg, working on serialized data in content-hub transfers... fun stuff!
[18:33] <kenvandine> you can't annoy me today :)
[18:33] <kenvandine> tedg, do you need a silo?
[18:33] <tedg> Heh, normally I'd take that as a challenge, but I'm busy :-)
[18:34]  * kenvandine really enjoys working on content-hub... not sure why it's so cool
[18:34] <kenvandine> :)
[18:34] <tedg> kenvandine, No, I have a few already.
[18:34] <kenvandine> tedg, we'll be able to do cool stuff like copy/paste between apps using content-hub :)
[18:34] <kenvandine> seems like something you were babbling about...
[18:35] <tedg> Yeah, that would be very cool.
[18:35] <tedg> I've got ideas :-)
[18:35] <tedg> Once it becomes sane how to build an import/exporter ;-)
[18:35] <kenvandine> i have a proof of concept implementation :)
[18:35] <kenvandine> it's dirt easy!
[18:35] <tedg> QML magic
[18:35] <kenvandine> in QML
[18:35] <kenvandine> :)
[18:36] <kenvandine> i want to be able to select text in say a web page, and have a share action included along with the current copy, etc
[18:36] <kenvandine> then share the select text with a share handler
[18:36] <kenvandine> like twitter, etc
[18:37] <tedg> kenvandine, http://oneshot.link/
[18:37] <kenvandine> so it shares an image?
[18:37] <kenvandine> that's silly
[18:38] <tedg> kenvandine, The nice part on twitter is that shows inline a paragraph or two.
[18:38] <tedg> kenvandine, https://twitter.com/anildash/status/583012555666427905
[18:39] <kenvandine> Trevinho, i'm close to having the text sharing done, i should finish and land it in our next iteration
[18:39] <Trevinho> kenvandine: cool! :)
[18:40] <kenvandine> i've got all the plumbing done :)
[18:40] <kenvandine> but it's not officially on my list this sprint
[18:40] <kenvandine> and i'm going on vacation :)
[18:40] <kenvandine> so i'll get it finished next sprint
[18:40] <Trevinho> yeah, no worries
[18:41] <kenvandine> Trevinho, is your app ready for it?
[18:41] <kenvandine> would be nice to have a good test case :)
[18:41] <Trevinho> kenvandine: not yet... as I was targeting that for rtm... but I will
[18:42] <kenvandine> Trevinho, cool, i'll come pestering you the week after next :)
[18:42] <kenvandine> anyone know what owns the little popup you get when you select text?
[18:42] <kenvandine> gotta figure out who i need to convince to add a share action there
[18:43] <ogra_> +1
[18:43] <kenvandine> ogra_, any idea?
[18:43] <ogra_> kenvandine, i guess zsombi or bzoltan
[18:43] <ogra_> its is definitely UITK
[18:43] <kenvandine> cool
[18:43] <ogra_> does that only work fo text or also for urls
[18:43] <ogra_> i.e. in the browser
[18:43] <kenvandine> the browser already does that :)
[18:44] <ogra_> i/me checks
[18:44] <ogra_> nope
[18:44] <ogra_> not in vivid
[18:44] <kenvandine> shares the current page
[18:44] <kenvandine> it's in the menu
[18:44] <ogra_> long press on a link only lets me copy or bookmark
[18:44] <ogra_> yeah, i want context sharing
[18:44] <kenvandine> ah... that would be cool too
[18:44] <kenvandine> we could do that now...
[18:45] <ogra_> i know about tteh share button, my G+ app heavily uses it ;)
[18:45] <kenvandine> i guess that's just in the browser
[18:45] <kenvandine> the context sharing would be using the same action the share menu item uses
[18:45] <ogra_> but would b neat if i hadnt to go to the link to share it
[18:45] <kenvandine> should be trivial to add that to the browser
[18:45] <ogra_> yeah
[18:46] <kenvandine> maybe i'll take a look at that
[18:46] <ogra_> i only wish G+ photo and video sharing wasnt that hard :/
[18:46] <kenvandine> you can blame google
[18:46] <ogra_> yeah
[18:46] <ogra_> you cant really share either ..
[18:46] <ogra_> yu can only upload the media to the respective googleservices and then share the link
[18:47] <ogra_> so to implement video and photo sharing i kind of have to turn my app into a youtube and picasa client first
[18:51] <pmcgowan> ogra_, we just landed some stuff for G+ photo sharing
[18:51] <ogra_> oh ?
[18:51] <pmcgowan> some webapp fixes by alex-abreu|off
[18:52] <ogra_> specifically for G+ ?
[18:52] <pmcgowan> yes
[18:52]  * ogra_ goes and digs his merges mailbox
[18:52] <pmcgowan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/webapps-core/+bug/1420235
[18:52] <pmcgowan> no MR there
[18:54] <ogra_> yeah, i see the twitter one ... but twitter is trivial
[18:55] <ogra_> ah, found the G+ part
[18:55] <ogra_> shriek
[18:55] <ogra_> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/webapps-core/trunk/revision/110
[18:55] <ogra_> thts a lot of files
[18:57] <ogra_> (in fact it is a completely new G+ app )
[18:57] <pmcgowan> I thought it landed in rtm proposed but cant find that
[18:58] <ogra_> it landed 3 days ago in the branch
[19:04] <kenvandine> ogra_, i added the share link contextual action lp:~ken-vandine/webbrowser-app/contextual_sharelink
[19:04] <ogra_> kenvandine, sweet, thanks !
[19:04]  * kenvandine wonders if there are autopilot tests for any of those
[19:07] <kenvandine> ogra_, i proposed a branch, we'll see if osomon hates it :)
[19:07] <ogra_> hehe
[19:07] <kenvandine> i suspect it's not in the designs... but it seems obvious to me :)
[19:07]  * ogra_ tries out caxton ...
[19:11] <ogra_> whee, this is cool !
[19:12] <kenvandine> sounds cool
[19:12] <kenvandine> i want the opposite though
[19:12] <kenvandine> send it to my desktop :)
[19:12] <ogra_> yeah
[19:12] <ogra_> i asked exactly that in #ubuntu-app-devel when you typed ithere :)
[19:20] <imgbot> [19:20] <imgbot>


[09:10] <phelpsw> i'm having difficulty following the omap3 headless install directions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPHeadlessInstall with a 4GB microsd card and a gumstix overo.  The installation continuously restarts the configuration process after requesting a hostname, then going into the "installing system" progress bar (with no packages selected).  The last thing I see is "configuring keyboard...", after a few minutes sitting at 15% i
[09:10] <phelpsw> I'm testing with the beta1 11.04 headless arm build from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-headless/releases/11.04/beta-1/
[11:28] <hrw> ogra_: bug 745884 is something which ubuntu/arm team can take and finish?
[11:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 745884 in lxc "lxc version 0.7.4-0ubuntu1 failed to build on armel" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/745884
[11:29] <hrw> I added patch
[11:31] <ogra_> hrw, well, it doesnt solve the build failure as i understand it
[11:31] <hrw> will add one more note - docbook-to-man may be required
[12:39] <ppisati> guys, do we support tegra2 at all?
[12:41] <suihkulokki> ppisati: ubuntu-arm userland should work on tegra2 but you'll need your own kernel
[12:52] <amitk> ppisati: ogra has an ubuntu image for ac100 somewhere...
[13:03] <rsalveti> morning
[13:09] <ogra_> ppisati, for what kind of device ? beyond my ac100 image there seems to also exist a folio100 one
[13:10] <ogra_> note that tegra2 is a PITA though, all important features live in a proprietary daemon, not in the kernel
[13:10] <furibondox> hi guys...
[13:14] <furibondox> rsalveti: are you there? I've a question about rootstock... when I try to install lucid with roostock it takes packages from lucid repository but after installation if I run apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade it takes packages from lucid-updates... have you an idea why this happens?
[13:15] <rsalveti> furibondox: that's just because the lucid-updates is activated at your /etc/sources.list
[13:15] <rsalveti> but that should be fine, as you'll get all needed updates for it
[13:15] <furibondox> is possible to set lucid-updates directly during rootstock first installation?
[13:20] <rsalveti> furibondox: well, it's setting while running it, so it should get it
[13:20] <rsalveti> just not for debootstrap
[13:24] <furibondox> I wrote a workaround setting my sources.list (lucid + lucid-updates + lucid-security) using an external script with --script
[13:24] <furibondox> and running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade just after have set the sources.list
[13:36] <xqvp43> has anyone build kernel <IP_ADDRESS> against S3C6410 board encountering an error saying:  drivers/input/touchscreen/eeti_ts.c:65:2: error: implicit declaration of function ‘irq_to_gpio’?
[13:42] <ppisati> ogra_: dunno the actual device, i'll ask
[13:42] <ppisati> ogra_: folio100
[13:42] <ppisati> ogra_: do you where the image is?
[13:43] <ogra_> no, google it, its hidden in some forum
[13:43] <ppisati> k
[13:43] <ogra_> if you can get your hands on a proper (non android) kernel i guess the ac100 userspace should work just fine though
[13:44] <ogra_> the ac100 rootfs/kernel images are at ac100.gudinna.com
[13:45] <ppisati> ogra_: cool
[13:45] <ogra_> there is also an #ac100 channel
[13:50] <ppisati> ogra_: ok, i'll forward all these informations, thanks
[13:50] <ogra_> btw, i'm typing this on an ac100 (its my main work machine)
[13:50] <ppisati> actually it's a pity that we don't support tegra2 yet
[13:50] <ogra_> yes
[13:51] <ppisati> and what do you run on it?
[13:51] <ogra_> natty with unity-2d
[13:53]  * ogra_ reboots after upgrade
[14:05] <ogra_> wohoo !
[14:05] <ogra_> chromium started to work again
[14:05] <rsalveti> cool
[14:05] <ogra_> no idea why
[14:05] <ogra_> but i wont complain ;)
[14:06] <hrw> ;)
[17:06] <ndec> ogra_: any news about the audio stuff? sorry to bug you.. but you are the easiest one to contact ;-)
[17:22] <alejandro-gm> hi
[17:22] <alejandro-gm> does any one has test the PA UCM on Natty?
[17:24] <rsalveti> alejandro-gm: maybe ogra_
[17:26] <alejandro-gm> Hi ogra_, did you have the time to play with the PA UCM? did you have any issue or concern?
[17:36] <ogra_> alejandro-gm, i only forwarded it to TheMuso yet, waiting for feedback (he is our alsa/pulse guy)
[17:36] <ogra_> alejandro-gm, but its a lot more than i expected, announced was one config file and two patches for PA
[17:36] <ogra_> so we'll have to see what the audio guys say
[17:37] <ogra_> ndec, i forwarded Luke the last mail from alejandro and gave him the URL to download them on IRC, apparently he missed the URL (which i gave him again today), swaiting for feedback now
[17:39] <ndec> ogra_: ok.
[17:45]  * rsalveti lunch
[17:55] <alejandro-gm> ogra_: ok, well let me know if you find any issue or if you have any doubt.


[16:36] <highvoltage> stgraber: I just want to double-check that we're more or less in agreement, we're only applying for 5 years LTS if Kubuntu gets 5 years LTS, right?
[16:38] <stgraber> highvoltage: yes
[16:41] <highvoltage> stgraber: I've added that on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/12.04/LTS-Proposal and will flesh it out a bit during the day, feel free to add
[16:43] <alkisg> Guys how would I learn if indeed reminna will replace vinagre as the default precise vnc client?
[16:50] <stgraber> probably on the desktop team mailing-list
[16:52] <alkisg> ty
[19:36] <alkisg> ...and btw, when will the main UDS photo be published? I'm waiting for this to write a blog (forum anyway) entry... :D
[21:20] <highvoltage> alkisg: I was wondering about that too!


[08:11] <icey> jamespage: would you be around to take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.macnaughton/ubuntu/+source/openvswitch/+git/openvswitch/+merge/387852 ?
[08:39] <Peanut> I've logged in to my 20.04 Focal desktop, and logged out again. Now, 15 minutes later, there are still 33 processes running as this user: /usr/lib/bluetooth/obexd, lots of Evolution processes (I don't use Evolution), geoclue (no clue what that is), telepathy/mission-control (???), gnome-tweak-tool-lib-inhibitor (this is a desktop) etc. Why don't these disappear once I've logged out?
[08:41] <Peanut> Ah, sorry, wrong channel.
[11:26] <Towser> (Towser) I have a question. Would it be worth converting an old laptop into a DHCP/PBX server? If so what edition of ubuntu server would work best (and cheapest) or would I be better off using an alternative platform?
[12:37] <Orcs53> Hi there! I have Docker (installed the snap) on a Raspberry Pi running Ubuntu 20.04 server. I have done a few power cycles, and now when I reboot, the Docker daemon no longer starts.
[12:38] <Orcs53> Here is a portion of the output of journalctl https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nVNkpWGQCD/
[12:38] <Orcs53> Any ideas on how to solve this issue?
[12:43] <jamespage> icey: sorry was ooo for this morning
[12:43] <icey> no worries :)
[12:43] <NTQ> I've got a problem with a stuck cifs mount which is not available anymore on an Ubuntu 18.04. Every two second it logs this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Z9K643qBWr/
[12:43] <NTQ> I can not modprobe -rf cifs and I can not remount again (because the remote is gone) and I can not umount because it was already unmounted.
[12:43] <NTQ> What can I do except restarting the system? It is production server with a lot of running services.
[12:45] <Orcs53> Oh FYI, I solved the issue, the docker.pid was not deleted on power off. Deleting this file and restarting the snap solved the issue.
[12:45] <NTQ> I seems also to be the reason why I can not upgade virtualbox. It gets stuck at "Preparing to unpack ..."
[15:18] <rbasak> mdeslaur: sergiodj and kanashiro will work on MySQL riscv64 for you
[15:20] <mdeslaur> rbasak: awesome, thanks sergiodj, kanashiro
[15:20] <sergiodj> mdeslaur: hey, np :)
[20:51] <keithzg[m]> Still baffled by the eventual slow to a crawl of file i/o on the BTRFS storage pool at my work; started happening a few weeks back now, only solution seems to be rebooting, nothing logged other than stuff like Dovecot complaining about timing out trying to write files to storage or other servers complaining their NFS mounts are down, lots of evidence of symptoms but no evidence of any cause :(
[20:54] <sarnold> keithzg[m]: any luck with perf top?
[20:56] <keithzg[m]> sarnold: Alas, it seemed to report "naw not much going on here!" when I tried that during one of these flareups.
[20:56] <sarnold> :(
[20:58] <keithzg[m]> Moving the /home from the BTRFS pool to the root SSD on the server seems to have saved email delivery from stalling out any more, so it's definitely not the server overall and just the RAID 1+0 pool of 4x4TB drives somehow. But I already very strongly suspected as much.
[21:04] <sarnold> smartctl?
[21:04] <sarnold> dmesg?
[21:06] <keithzg[m]> If only! `smartctl` reports all fine, barring a mere 2 bad blocks on one of the drives. Nothing seems relevant in `dmesg` but I should make a note to read through dmesg's output thoroughly next time. Mostly I've been relying on looking at the systemd journal, which has similarly only seemed to show some evidence of the problems of i/o timeouts and nothing pointing towards any cause.
[21:12] <keithzg[m]> I'm kindof wondering if it's just a matter of getting overloaded, these are only 5400rpm drives, maybe the write queue is just getting untenably long? But I would think some sort of warning about that would be logged somewhere I've looked . . . hmm. Adding `iostat -x` to my list of outputs I need to peer closely at next time this happens too.
[21:14] <sarnold> are they SMR drives?


[08:52] <tjaalton> meh, gnome-session got stuck somehow, unity didn't wake up from the screensaver
[08:52] <tjaalton> on vivid