[18:37] <Dr_Willis> Slyboots:  thats very weird.. can you open up a terminal?
[18:37] <skullboy> tnttnt
[18:37] <sresu> bonjoyee: Okay, just delineate briefly about how you do it, again ...
[18:38] <kimmok> sacarlson: ok. good to know
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> Slyboots:  if so run 'metacity --replace' and look for any error messages  when it crashed
[18:38] <Slyboots> Okay.. hold on
[18:38] <kimmok> sacarlson: well, i'll backup and try. if i'm not here in ~5 mins, it means i couldn't reboot :-)
[18:38] <rs0832> aimio, maybe you have broken the audio drivers.. try removing alsa and installing pulseaudio...
[18:38] <kimmok> sacarlson: thanks
[18:39] <bonjoyee> jchvelasco: well the biggest difference is 10.04 is LTS..while 10.10 is not!
[18:39] <skullboy> rs0832, http://packages.debian.org/sid/libjpeg62
[18:39] <aimio> rs0832, i went grazy on it i installed all kind of drivers alsa,oss,pulseaudio, and what not..
[18:39] <Slyboots> No error messages outputting to terminal
[18:39] <Slyboots> But no titlebars either
[18:40] <rs0832> skullboy, hmm then you may have to remove the older version and install the newer one... but ask on the channel if it will remove anything else because i am not sure if it will
[18:40] <jchvelasco> how bout installing in wubi and not installing in wubi
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> Slyboots:  that is very weird.. as a test you could make a new user. and see if the problem affects them also.
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> jchvelasco:  avoide wubi if you can.
[18:40] <rs0832> aimio, then try installing pulseaudio and remove alsa and oss
[18:40] <shcherbak> Slyboots: tried to chnage theme yet
[18:40] <sresu> bonjoyee: I mean what all settings you have made ....
[18:40] <Slyboots> Yup; changing theme cahges the colouring.. but no titlebars
[18:40] <aimio> rs0832, ok i shall try.
[18:40] <jchvelasco> but im stuck with a problem in installing :(
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> Slyboots:  you could also try 'compiz --replace'
[18:41] <nit-wit> jchvelasco, what is your actual question
[18:41] <Slyboots> Im running FreeNX; I dont have hardware accelreation
[18:41] <rs0832> aimio, for a guide/howto, i suggest https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound
[18:41] <jchvelasco> i'm constantly getting this error 'unable to find a medium containing a live file system'
[18:41] <shcherbak> Slyboots: gtk-window-decorator?
[18:41] <nit-wit> jchvelasco, when?
[18:42] <rs0832> skullboy, i have to go now so good luck with it
[18:42] <bonjoyee> sresu: if possible try 2.0b5..and see if the error persists
[18:42] <rs0832> aimio, i have to go now... if you still need help i will be back tomorrow.. good luck :)
[18:42] <nit-wit> jchvelasco, can you not boot into the wubi?
[18:42] <skullboy> rs0832, well thx 4 the help
[18:42] <jchvelasco> i've been trying to install ubuntu this week  i just stopped yesterday
[18:42] <rs0832> bonjoyee, will be back tomorrow, hopefully with a solution for you: )
[18:43] <rs0832> skullboy, :) y/w
[18:43] <Slyboots> I *dont* have hardware accelration
[18:43] <sresu> bonjoyee: Do you add new download keeping first running or paused?
[18:43] <Slyboots> It wont work in a FreeNX server anyway
[18:43] <skullboy> ok so how do i remove libjpeg62 without loseing lots of other apps
[18:43] <nit-wit> jchvelasco, so you haven't installed your having problems and want a little help is this correct
[18:43] <jchvelasco> using wubi i'm able to continue til the Log In but my mouse and keyboard are not working
[18:43] <jchvelasco> yes sir
[18:44] <bonjoyee> sresu: doesnt matter...it works either ways
[18:44] <jchvelasco> but Dr. Willis said. avoid using wubi
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> Slyboots:  could be some quirk/bug with freenx and how metacity is running.  You could try installing some alternative windw manager like fluxbox and try running that.
[18:44] <berg_LNX> quick question :) how do i name the output file when compiling a c program?
[18:44] <nit-wit> jchvelasco, so you get the win or Ubuntu menu you choose ubuntu and then no mouse or keyboard at the next menu
[18:45] <jchvelasco> hmm no.. its when im on the user log in ubuntu
[18:45] <danny_> Hi, anyone know why my lm-sensors not detect my i7?
[18:45] <eLrOnDz> hello all
[18:45] <jchvelasco> i guess wubi successfully installed ubuntu but mouse and keyboard are not working
[18:46] <sresu> bonjoyee: okay. The new download enters the Starting or waiting. As in does it starts even if first running?
[18:46] <nit-wit> jchvelasco, you don't have the autologin running then
[18:46] <Dr_Willis>  /quit
[18:46] <sresu> bonjoyee: enters as starting .. *
[18:46] <bonjoyee> sresu: when first is downloading..the second is waiting...
[18:46] <jchvelasco> autologin?
[18:47] <sresu> bonjoyee: I think I'm making some mistkae in settings probably ...
[18:47] <kimmok> berg_LNX: gcc -o myname myname.c i guess
[18:47] <jchvelasco> but what if i have autologin.. still mouse and keyboard will not work
[18:48] <clgshaft_> how do i know which audio device is being used?
[18:48] <nit-wit> jchvelasco, I have never used wubi, I assume that after the grub menu you either get in or you have to log in. In Ubuntu you can set to autologin
[18:48] <bonjoyee> sresu: in 2.0b5..under preferences>advanced>misc>download start order is set to " fast - as queued"
[18:48] <sresu> bonjoyee: Secondly, does your downloads at times stop at 99%?
[18:49] <MagicJ> has anyone noticed that the weather applet is not updating since 30th, I have multiple machines and they are all showing the same last update
[18:49] <bonjoyee> sresu: sometimes yes...they do become very slow at that point!
[18:49] <jchvelasco> yeah lets say im already in.. my hardware are not working in wubi
[18:49] <sresu> bonjoyee: Okay, any other download manager you know?
[18:50] <ZeXx86> Hi .. is possible to make a deb package which can compile a linux module ?
[18:50] <bonjoyee> sresu: cli or gui?
[18:50] <jchvelasco> i tried to install ubuntu from USB and cd but i keep getting 'unable to find a medium containing live file system'
[18:50] <nit-wit> jchvelasco, not sure why you are loosing the mouse, and keyboard, but theoretical situations are not addressing your problem
[18:50] <sresu> bonjoyee: GUI containg queue manager
[18:51] <berg_LNX> kimmok: thanks :) got it working, simple as a -o [filename] option
[18:51] <recon69_lap> my gnome got stuck again and ignored my left mouse button again!!!
[18:51] <jchvelasco> i tried to install ubuntu from USB and cd but i keep getting 'unable to find a medium containing live file system'
[18:51] <sacarlson> ZeXx86: I beleave so since that's what it apears happens when I install virtualbox
[18:51] <Slyboots> Rigiht; going to purge adn remove Gnome
[18:52] <berg_LNX> recon69_lap: I got that same issue, no idea why!
[18:52] <nit-wit> jchvelasco, have you ever gotten it installed and actually used it.
[18:52] <recon69_lap> had to restart gnome to get going again, anyone interested in trying to find the bug before my logs go?
[18:52] <bonjoyee> sresu: d4x / gwget are quite good..used them before switching to downthemall
[18:52] <ZeXx86> sacarlson: do you have any howto, please ?
[18:52] <jchvelasco> only in Virtualbox
[18:52] <bonjoyee> sresu: i'd prefer d4x..it has more features
[18:53] <recon69_lap> berg_LNX: had it a couple of times over the last year or so. bit worrying as it's a basic feature
[18:53] <nit-wit> jchvelasco, lets go to #ubuntu-beginners slower channel nobodies there posting
[18:54] <jchvelasco> ok sir
[18:54] <pzr11hdik56> hello
[18:55] <berg_LNX> recon69_lap: Yeah I've had it for a long time myself, it only appears after I wake up the laptop (from a suspend). It's been gone for a long time now, but it's back once more. I have to kill "gnome-session" to restore it. Never found any reports on the problem...
[18:55] <pzr11hdik56> what is the effect to make window transparen when mouse is rolled out from that window?
[18:56] <recon69_lap> berg_LNX: think I'll go make a report :)
[18:56] <berg_LNX> recon69_lap: Do it :)
[18:56] <sacarlson> ZeXx86: there are preinstall scripts and postinstall scripts that you can make do compile or whatever else you want http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/How-to-make-deb-packages/
[18:58] <pzr11hdik56> hu
[18:58] <Cromag> does vlc for linux play bluray iso's ?
[18:58] <recon69_lap> berg_LNX: already reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/673201
[18:59] <sacarlson> ZeXx86: if you want to look at an example you should open the virtualbox deb file in an arkive manager and take a look at how they did it
[18:59] <aimio> how can i check what drivers i have installed for a selected hardware like, sound,video, etc..
[18:59] <pzr11hdik56> how can i make the window appear transparent on mouse rolled out?
[19:00] <pzr11hdik56> the window is minimized when mouse is rolled out. I just want to make transparent
[19:00] <berg_LNX> recon69_lap: Ah... I'll follow that one then :)
[19:00] <pzr11hdik56> i think it's some compiz effect
[19:01] <KM0201> Cromag: you could probably mount it as a disk, and get vlc to play it..
[19:01] <GeekSquid> pzr11hdik56: why don't you ask in #compiz
[19:01] <KM0201> pzr11hdik56: #compiz
[19:02] <Slyboots> !gnome
[19:02] <KM0201> considering compiz has approximately 84 gazillion options, you'll probably get better help there
[19:02] <pzr11hdik56> oks
[19:02] <pzr11hdik56> and one more thing..
[19:02] <Slyboots> What do I need for a "basic" gnome enviroment?
[19:03] <GeekSquid> KM0201: is that all? I thought it was 84 gogoplexzillion
[19:03] <GeekSquid> Slyboots: install the desktop version of ubuntu
[19:03] <KM0201> GeekSquid: maybe i was off by a couple 100 trillion, i dunno.. :)
[19:03] <Slyboots> GeekSquid: thats not a basic version of Gnome
[19:03] <Slyboots> Thats a entire Gnome eniroemtn and a ton of other crap I dont need
[19:04] <sresu> !info d4x lucid
[19:04] <KM0201> Slyboots: i think you can install ubuntu-desktop and that will give you what you want.
[19:04] <sresu> !info d4x
[19:04] <Slyboots> ... I *dont* want the entire Gnome enviroemnt
[19:04] <Slyboots> Just the UI
[19:04] <Slyboots> And Xorg
[19:04] <Slyboots> I dont even have a monitor on this thing
[19:04] <KM0201> then why on earth ar eyou concerned about a UI?
[19:05] <Slyboots> Because need to use FreeNX to run a fe windows applcations in Wine
[19:05] <Slyboots> And FreeNX *demands* that I instlal Gnome
[19:05] <vsilverlord> MY Update manager doenst work. ubuntu 10.10
[19:05] <capti> Hi, does anyone know how to install ubuntu with SW raid if I would like to have multiple partitions on md device? I couldno make it with alternate installer. It creates allows only a md device creation with no partition.
[19:05] <KM0201> vsilverlord: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade    in a terminal
[19:05] <hamed> hi all
[19:06] <dougl> hamed, hello
[19:06] <hamed> dougl: hi
[19:06] <ZykoticK9> Slyboots, i use the gnome-desktop-environment package on my minimal installs (still probably a lot more then you want though)
[19:07] <hamed> bye :(
[19:07] <Slyboots> Mm
[19:07] <GeekSquid> Slyboots: I am a little confused, what are you trying to do, run wine apps on a headless machine via FreeNX?
[19:07] <Slyboots> Via VNC
[19:08] <Slyboots> the server runs 24/7 so I run other applctions on it..
[19:08] <psykatog> really dumb question - I'm trying to install slax on a usb, and the website's instructions say to run a shell script  - how do I do that on the consol
[19:08] <Slyboots> Steam requires XRender; so i need to use FreeNX for it to work correctly
[19:08] <TyrantElf> shchbak, is there any way you can hhelp me with this?
[19:08] <psykatog> I've navlgated to the disk and the folder in boot already as mentioned here, I just don't know the console command
[19:09] <skullboy> ok so how do i remove libjpeg62 without loseing lots of other apps
[19:09] <GeekSquid> Slyboots: really, Headless, remotly accessed, steam, wine, .... The graphics will never render fast enough for you to be playing games over VNC
[19:09] <kcorcoran> i am migrating from a windows platform.  i used an application called newsleecher; is there something like newsleecher for ubuntu?  i'd prefer not to use WINE.
[19:10] <Slyboots> Never said anything about playing games on it
[19:10] <Slyboots> A lot of Steam games are *very* big; so its helpful to have it download them overnight without the need for extra devices to be turned on
[19:10] <skullboy> ok so how do i remove libjpeg62 without loseing lots of other apps
[19:10] <sacarlson> capti: I'm tested a raid install with virtualbox with the alternate install disk and went quite smothly,  what is an md device,  sorry my terminoligy not very good
[19:10] <KM0201> skullboy: dunno, but it seems to want to remove everything GUI related
[19:10] <Slyboots> kcorcoran: Depends.. Do you want actual text access or just binaries?
[19:10] <samuel> alguien de chile
[19:10] <Slyboots> Im pretty sure newsleacher is binary only anyway..
[19:11] <KM0201> skullboy: why are you concerned w/ that?
[19:11] <NoNaMeNo> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 and I can't get nfs mount on startup
[19:11] <GeekSquid> !fstab | NoNaMeNo
[19:11] <kcorcoran> Slyboots:  not sure how to answer that correctly.  I would use download NZB files and then allow newsleecher to work its magic.   Not sure that answers your question?
[19:11] <TyrantElf> Is there anyone here who is good with graphics and xorg that can chat with me?
[19:11] <Slyboots> kcorcoran: Then you only want binary access
[19:12] <Slyboots> Install SabnzbdPlus
[19:12] <NoNaMeNo> GeekSquid: after my system started, if I login and then mount -a, everything mounts
[19:12] <Slyboots> Its far.. *far* better than newsleacher in so many ways its not even funny
[19:12] <izinucs> TyrantElf: you gotta ask a more specific question.. that's pretty generic
[19:12] <capti> sacarlson: I would like to have one big md array of RAID5 with multiple partitions like a separate one for home.
[19:12] <kcorcoran> Slyboots:  will take a look.  Thank you!!
[19:12] <KM0201> NoNaMeNo: you could set mount -a to run o boot up?
[19:12] <TyrantElf> Okay, is there anyone here who can help me get hdmi output from a radeon HD 4670 working?
[19:13] <skullboy> KM0201, cause i need to remove it to install a newer ver
[19:13] <GeekSquid> NoNaMeNo: take a look at /etc/mtab ... will show what is mounted then write /etc/fstab to mount the share upon boot ... see the links above
[19:13] <Slyboots> Its sabnzbdPLUS; not sabnzbd
[19:13] <KM0201> skullboy: hmm, sounds entertaining
[19:13] <Slyboots> Sabnzbd hasnt been updated in years
[19:13] <chrometiger> is there a way of coping all the folders from one place to another but now the files within them ?
[19:13] <GeekSquid> TyrantElf: do you have the restricted driver installed ? what version of ubuntu?
[19:14] <goetter> is there a particular installation media i should choose to put ubuntu on an old laptop to use as a headless nas/etc?
[19:14] <aimio> i need help my sound is completly dead.
[19:14] <NoNaMeNo> my fstab is written with the nfs mounts, but they don't get mounted when I boot the system, I have to manually trigger the mount with mount -a
[19:14] <itaylor57> chrometiger: yews
[19:14] <sacarlson> capti:  raid5 I would have to look that up,  I played with raid1
[19:14] <goetter> server edition or desktop?
[19:14] <chrometiger> itaylor57:  how exactly
[19:14] <TyrantElf> GeekSquid, I am using open source drivers and using ubutu 10.04 Lucid.
[19:14] <aimio> i think i broke my drivers, how do i reverse it :S ?
[19:14] <yo_rmn> Hello, every time I install something I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/549346/
[19:15] <fil_64> _DeZ_: видишь? )
[19:15] <_DeZ_> =)
[19:15] <skullboy> KM0201, so any ideas
[19:15] <izinucs> TyrantElf: there is a bug report on that from Lucid.. It may have carried to Maveric .. check it out here.. there might be a solution listed. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/543021
[19:15] <KM0201> skullboy: sorry.. none
[19:15] <capti> sacarlson: basic install worked for me with RAID five, just everything was under / and could not make home on separate partition under the same md device.
[19:15] <GeekSquid> TyrantElf: reccommend the closed-source drivers, it includes the utility provided by ATI which will allow you to use the HDMI out
[19:15] <kcorcoran> Slyboots:  just installed sabnzbplus (via synaptic).  not sure how/where to launch.  nothing appeared in the applications.  is it strictly coomand line?
[19:16] <chrometiger> is there a way of coping all the folders from one place to another but now the files within them ?
[19:16] <dragonkeeper> how do i convert films to  1080p  with ubuntu ??
[19:16] <TyrantElf> I'll try....
[19:16] <Slyboots> no;ITs a web-based UI
[19:16] <goetter> kcorcoran: sabnzbplus is a service with a web ui
[19:17] <Slyboots> Seriouslyl just google SZabnzbd and there is LOTS of documentation
[19:17] <doudou_> Hello all.
[19:17] <GeekSquid> yo_rmn: please ask your question in the spanish channel #ubuntu-es ... I cannot read your errors
[19:17] <Slyboots> thatas a best place to start
[19:17] <psykatog> anyone?  What command do I use in terminal to run a shell script?
[19:17] <doudou_> Happy new year to all Ubuntu lovers
[19:17] <psusi> dragonkeeper, upconverting is pointless, it just wastes space and/or lowers the video quality... the resolution it was shot in is as good as it is going to get
[19:17] <GeekSquid> psykatog: ./script.sh
[19:17] <yo_rmn> GeekSquid, I notice too late, Ill' translate for you
[19:17] <TyrantElf> GeekSquid, When I installed the proprietary driver, I couln't run blender or assualt cube for some reason, so I uninstalled it.  I'll try again though.
[19:17] <_DeZ_> hello!
[19:18] <sacarlson> capti: well that's like saying you want to put another partition inside a partition since that's what a raid becomes,  I think you can create partition before you group them and keep one or more partitions a a disk that are not a part of the raid
[19:18] <KM0201> i didn't know anyone still played assaultcube
[19:19] <kcorcoran> goetter:  how do i launch the ui?
[19:19] <GeekSquid> TyrantElf: assaultcube has been superceeded by sauerbraten ... better game anyway
[19:19] <TyrantElf> GeelSquid: just wondering, do you know if the catalyst control center has overclocking?
[19:19] <capti> sacarlson: What I like is to have multiple partitions under an md device. with gparted I played around with partitioning. It worked. Just installer could not see the partitions under md.
[19:19] <Slyboots> kcorcoran: Read the documentation
[19:20] <Slyboots> This is really all explained
[19:20] <goetter> so is the ubuntu server edition what i would want for an old headless laptop NAS?
[19:20] <Slyboots> goetter: ... laptop.. nas?
[19:20] <sacarlson> capti: my simulation has 3 disk in one md,  is that what you mean?
[19:21] <Slyboots> but.. um.. yea you would want the server edition for that
[19:21] <JeopardySholdenK> doudou same for you! :D
[19:21] <goetter> :)
[19:21] <goetter> i'd buy a nas but free is pretty cheap
[19:21] <dragonkeeper> psusi how do they convert films that once was on vhs to hd then ...
[19:21] <doudou_> I need an advice from a Ubuntu geek. anyone ?
[19:21] <GeekSquid> TyrantElf: very unlikely, you might be able to do it with the command line, but that is way beyond the scope of this channel
[19:21] <kcorcoran> will do, however i mentioned i am migrating from a windows (point/click) OS - still learning Ubuntu, and not trying to learn anything too complex.  do not want to become discouraged.  let me ask this, is sabnzbplus easy to use like newsleecher or more complex?  please look at this from the perspective of someone new to linux.
[19:22] <sacarlson> capti: I'm not sure about raid5 but you can select any number of partition into any single raid
[19:22] <psusi> dragonkeeper, they don't... they go get the original film and scan it in hd
[19:22] <nicofs> I'm desperately looking for someone to help me fix my 3g connection... with network manager i can't connect (tries for some minutes and then gives up) - wvdial returns "No Carrier!"... i don't know what to do...
[19:22] <yo_rmn> GeekSquid, Dialog inteface could not be updated - ot wil not work in a dumb? terminal - emac interpreter buffer or without a controller(ing?) terminal plz no answer in any spanish channel
[19:22] <chrometiger> is there a way of coping all the folder structure from one place to another but not the files within them ?
[19:22] <NoNaMeNo> KM0201: GeekSquid , its a bug, solved with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1329355
[19:23] <goetter> newsleecher is probably more intuitive
[19:23] <doudou_> I was able to see workgroup and after a ubuntu updarte I can not longer see the other windows pcs. can someone advice, please
[19:23] <kcorcoran> appreciate the insight...will dig in a little deeper.  fingers crossed
[19:23] <Simpson_2> I've switched my system locale to nl_nl but nautilus is stil half english
[19:23] <capti> sacarlson: I have 3 phy disks. and I want all my system in raid5, just have separate partition for home. I did not want multiple mds since the resizing does not really work afterwards. But if i could have multiple partitions under a single big md device, then I could resize them easily with gparted. I personally tried resizing md partitions. Incerasing works ok, but decreasing will not gain the space back
[19:24] <JackOfHearts> in what package is glxgears?
[19:24] <JackOfHearts> in ubu 10.10
[19:24] <JeopardySholdenK> !guidelines
[19:24] <rww> !find glxgears
[19:24] <rww> JackOfHearts: mesa-utils
[19:24] <JackOfHearts> thx
[19:25] <JackOfHearts> im idiot io was try vesa-utils non stop
[19:25] <JackOfHearts>  and aptitude tells no such thing
[19:25] <JackOfHearts>  damn in rusty
[19:25] <JackOfHearts> im*
[19:25] <Eduard> Hello guys, does anybody know, how i can run bash scripts, through program launcher?
[19:25] <_DeZ_> àó íàðîä
[19:25] <psusi> capti, you can resize md partitions just fine if you do it right, but I would suggest you use lvm on top of md to divide it up into logical volumes of your choosing
[19:25] <_DeZ_> âû ìåíÿ ñëûøåòå
[19:25] <_DeZ_> íåò?
[19:25] <FloodBot1> _DeZ_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:25] <_DeZ_> à7??
[19:26] <_DeZ_> õóé(
[19:26] <rww> _DeZ_: English here, please.
[19:26] <psusi> Eduard, same way you run any program...
[19:26] <aimio> can you take patchs from new distro upgrades ? like i have ubuntu 10.04 can i take stuff from 10.10 ?
[19:26] <_DeZ_> rww: ïî ðóññêè ìîæíî?
[19:26] <aimio> like driver updates etc..
[19:26] <sacarlson> capti: I just did some research on raid 5 since it says it needs a minimum of 3 disks or more,  so do they mean disks or just partitions?
[19:26] <psusi> aimio, no
[19:26] <_DeZ_> rww: ðóññêèé ?
[19:27] <Eduard> psusi: it does not work if in command box i define abs path to script & scriptname itself, nothing happens
[19:27] <JackOfHearts> 36689 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7328.450 FPS damn a bit low  wtf
[19:27] <GeekSquid> !ru | _DeZ_
[19:27] <Eduard> btw, my scipth has +x so thats not the prob
[19:27] <psusi> Eduard, you need to flag it as executable
[19:27] <sprung> Hello. I am connected to my work VPN using nm-applet. Now, I want to connect to the datacenter VPN, which can only be done from within the work VPN. nm-applet won't let me try to connect to it, the VPN is greyed out. Does nm-applet only let me connect to one VPN at a time? What's going on here??
[19:27] <_DeZ_> à ýòî êàêàÿ ñòðàíà òóò?
[19:27] <PhilT> RAID is multiple Disk
[19:27] <itaylor57> chrometiger: find . -type d -exec mkdir path/to/remotedir '{}' \;
[19:27] <psusi> Eduard, is the first line a proper #! line?
[19:28] <capti> psusi: you say with LVM i could divide a single md array to multiple sices? like partitions? I wonder how others are doing installation with raid. I guess I am not the first in the world
[19:28] <Eduard> psusi: #!/bin/bash
[19:28] <_DeZ_> ýòîò êàíàë êàêîé ñòðàíû?
[19:28] <_DeZ_> ))
[19:28] <chrometiger> thanks
[19:28] <psusi> capti, sort of... lvm logically slices up disks in ways that are similar to partitions, but better... take a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[19:28] <GeekSquid> _DeZ_: /join #ubuntu-ru
[19:29] <psusi> Eduard, then it should work
[19:29] <yeats> !ru | _DeZ_
[19:29] <capti> sacarlson: yes I have multiple disks and would like to have a speedy and redundant system
[19:29] <_DeZ_> ïîñåòèë
[19:29] <_DeZ_> óæå
[19:30] <capti> psusi: thanks I am readin
[19:30] <Eduard> psusi: sorry, my bad, on the second line i had a joint command, my typo was one & instead of two
[19:31] <Arachon> Could someone help me a bit with understanding the file system structure in Ubuntu?
[19:31] <sacarlson> capti: is sounds like the last entry in this article explains a solution and seems you can have raid5 and raid1 over only 3 disks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155336
[19:31] <yeats> !filesystem | Arachon
[19:31] <GeekSquid> !ask | Arachon
[19:31] <capti> sacarlson: thanks i am readin
[19:32] <JackOfHearts> ny one knows dota like game on linux?
[19:32] <Rypervenche> How can I make all of the combinations of all 26 letters plus 0-9 in Bash? I know I can do {A..Z} for the letters and {0..9} for the numbers, but how can I do them both in the same digit place?
[19:33] <JackOfHearts> dota= defense of ancients
[19:33] <JackOfHearts>  cuz legue of legends dont works
[19:33] <sprung> Hello. I am connected to my work VPN using nm-applet. Now, I want to connect to the datacenter VPN, which can only be done from within the work VPN. nm-applet won't let me try to connect to it, the VPN is greyed out. Does nm-applet only let me connect to one VPN at a time? What's going on here??
[19:33] <sacarlson> capti: I sounds like you can break your 3 disk into 6 partitions and use 3 for your raid 5 and the other 3 for a raid 1,  since I also note you can't boot from a raid 5
[19:34] <JackOfHearts> so guys? any linux player here?
[19:34] <capti> sacarlson: some says :"You cannot boot from raid5 array with lilo or grub." This is not true. It worked fine with raid5 with ubuntu 10.10 alternate installer and booted fine
[19:34] <psusi> sacarlson, you actually can boot from a raid5 these days
[19:34] <sacarlson> psusi: ok the article must be old
[19:35] <Martini> I need help with my Ubunut 10.10 language setting. I accidently changed the language to Russain, and when I (with some help from a russian friend) changed it back to english again, half the system remained in russian! some googling led me to the base-config command, but it seems that command was removed..
[19:35] <sacarlson> psusi: oh it's 2006
[19:35] <GeekSquid> !locale | Martini - see this
[19:36] <recon69_lap> right, updated bug report :) , later
[19:36] <Rypervenche> Martini: You probably have to have the language set system-wide.
[19:36] <Rypervenche> How can I make all of the combinations of all 26 letters plus 0-9 in Bash? I know I can do {A..Z} for the letters and {0..9} for the numbers, but how can I do them both in the same digit place?
[19:37] <Martini> i tried putting english_US systemwide, but I still have aplications in russian
[19:37] <psusi> Rypervenche, I normally use [A-Z] and you can just smash them together: [A-Z0-9]
[19:37] <capti> sacarlson: i would like to avoid creating multiple md arrays because of resize problems I saw. I must say that shrinking did not work ever.  This is why i tried making partitions under an md. It worked in trial just cannot install the system this way.
[19:37] <bioctoplasterio> anyone here use 10.10 for net book?
[19:38] <Martini> and oh, changing in locales I also tried, it didnt do much. dpkg-configure gives me an answer in russian that I cant understand
[19:38] <karthick87> !panels
[19:38] <nit-wit> bioctoplasterio, whats the problem  have the natty setup not 10.10
[19:38] <sprung> Hello. I am connected to my work VPN using nm-applet. Now, I want to connect to the datacenter VPN, which can only be done from within the work VPN. nm-applet won't let me try to connect to it, the VPN is greyed out. Does nm-applet only let me connect to one VPN at a time? What's going on here??
[19:38] <Rypervenche> psusi: It doesn't work with echo though. I basically wanted to make a file with all of the possible combinations each on a new line.
[19:38] <GeekSquid> Rypervenche: your question is strange, please describe what you are trying to do (same digit place???)
[19:39] <bioctoplasterio> right click doesn't seem to work, which makes it difficult for a linux beginner to do simple tasks..
[19:39] <bioctoplasterio> also, can't seem to drag-and-drop
[19:39] <sacarlson> capti: how do you make a partition under md?
[19:39] <yeats> bioctoplasterio: what model laptop?
[19:39] <bioctoplasterio> Asus EeePC 1005HAB
[19:39] <evalyn> hi
[19:40] <_DeZ_> ðåïåðîê òóò???
[19:40] <Neezer> I installed conky and have been running it just fine. after doing a reboot, the conky window is always on top of my other stuff...it is kind of annoying...how can I turn that off?
[19:40] <GeekSquid> sprung: not sure on that, seems like you'd need to use your work machine to connect to the datacenters VPN
[19:40] <Martini> ehm...localpurge seems like a good idea, only it hits me with a screen filled with russian....
[19:40] <_DeZ_> ðåïåðîê òóò???
[19:40] <Rypervenche> GeekSquid: For example, I'd like to make a text file with all of the possible combinations of A through Z and 0 through 9 in each digit. Say for example, for a 3-digit long number. It would have 36^3 possible combinations.
[19:41] <evalyn> i am so new to ubuntu and i cannot get things to work, I really do not know how to install these packages that i download
[19:41] <sprung> GeekSquid, untrue, the mac users can do it as can the windows users
[19:41] <nit-wit> bioctoplasterio, so where are you dragging and dropping to?
[19:41] <sacarlson> capti: and size?  you can make the raid any size you want,  you don't need to use the entire disk,  I guess you can keep a none raid partition also available
[19:41] <Rypervenche> GeekSquid: Just like [A-Z0-9][A-Z0-9][A-Z0-9] but I can't echo it into a file like that.
[19:41] <quiescens> Rypervenche: something like {{a..z},{0..9}}
[19:41] <nit-wit> bioctoplasterio, from and to?
[19:42] <_DeZ_> ðåïåðîê òóò?
[19:42] <Rypervenche> quiescens: That's the one :D Thank you.
[19:42] <capti> sacarlson: with gparted easily. eg. select /dev/md0. Device-create part. table, then create as many ext4 whatever i want. and resize with data easily
[19:42] <bioctoplasterio> from Documents to Trash
[19:42] <GeekSquid> Rypervenche: you could pipe as opposed to echo ... echo is for the screen, where | can go to a file
[19:42] <sprung> GeekSquid, i can connect to the work VPN, and at physical work, i can connect to the datacenter VPN. but i don't even have the ////option//// of selecting the datacenter VPN when connected to the work VPN. the datacenter VPN is ///greyed out/// in nm-applet
[19:42] <ccvp> hello
[19:42] <_DeZ_> ðåïåðîê òóò?
[19:42] <ccvp> dez, wtf?
[19:42] <evalyn> i got this to work thru the add remove software. that seems to work the best for getting stuff to work
[19:42] <capti> sacarlson: I just do not see why it not works from installer
[19:42] <evalyn> i will put this chat on my desktop and hope i can get some help thru irc chat
[19:42] <ccvp> 11.04 changing to "Nasty Narwahl"?
[19:42] <sacarlson> capti: ok under you don't mean inside
[19:42] <ccvp> lulz
[19:43] <nit-wit> bioctoplasterio, make sure you use the tab complete to ping, so no rught click to move to trash ethier
[19:43] <yeats> bioctoplasterio: is it a "clickpad" with simulated left/right buttons or does it have actual buttons?
[19:43] <Rypervenche> GeekSquid: Oh I see. Would it be too much trouble to ask exactly how I could do that? Having each number on a new line.
[19:43] <capti> sacarlson: inside. within or under
[19:44] <sacarlson> capti: the ext4 is outside the raid it's just on the same disk
[19:44] <bioctoplasterio> has actual left/right click buttons and a touch pad.
[19:44] <ccvp> How will Ubuntu run on Core 2 Quad 64bit, 6gig ddr3 and an older 7800gtx video card? I just got a new system, i7 870 12gig ddr3, and nvidia gtx 570 for main ubuntu gaming system, but will the Q9300 system(core 2 quad) be a decent ubuntu system? to screw around with?
[19:44] <capti> sacarlson: no it is inside md0. e.g it is called md0p1, md0p2 etc
[19:44] <bioctoplasterio> @nit-wit, sorry for a noob question, but what does "use the tab complete to ping:?
[19:45] <bioctoplasterio> er, what does that mean?
[19:45] <yeats> bioctoplasterio: ok - I had no right click in 10.10 with an HP with a clickpad (kernel-level issue)
[19:45] <yeats> !tab | bioctoplasterio
[19:45] <GeekSquid> Rypervenche: I really think this would be a better question for #bash
[19:45] <Rypervenche> GeekSquid: Ok, thank you.
[19:45] <sacarlson> capti: well if it's just an install problem just setup the install first and keep the needed number of partitions or free space left to change after install
[19:45] <sprung> Hello. I am connected to my work VPN using nm-applet. Now, I want to connect to the datacenter VPN, which can only be done from within the work VPN. nm-applet won't let me try to connect to it, the VPN is greyed out. Does nm-applet only let me connect to one VPN at a time? What's going on here??
[19:46] <GeekSquid> ccvp: woah! that kind of system should fly high and fast
[19:46] <mongy> ccvp, core2 is plenty enough
[19:46] <TyrantElf> GeekSquid, You were right!  the proprietary drivers did enable HDMI! Thank You!  only problem is that when I bring up blender, it is all static inside the window,  do you know any fix?
[19:46] <sacarlson> capti: ok I'll set one up in another virtualbox and try it
[19:46] <nit-wit> bioctoplasterio, you type the nick first coople of letter then hit tab
[19:47] <capti> sacarlson: it would be nice, but installer leaves the md0 looking as unpartitioned. As I see from gparted. the whenever i select: create partition table. guess if the installed system will be seen or not... ;-)
[19:47] <rof> rof
[19:47] <GeekSquid> TyrantElf: now take that question to #blender, like a good little ubuntu elf
[19:47] <capti> sacarlson: trap of22
[19:47] <bioctoplasterio> nit-wit, ha, that's nice.. Ok, so what I've been working toward today is going back to 10.04
[19:47] <ccvp> How will Ubuntu run on Core 2 Quad 64bit, 6gig ddr3 and an older 7800gtx video card? I just got a new system, i7 870 12gig ddr3, and nvidia gtx 570 for main ubuntu gaming system, but will the Q9300 system(core 2 quad) be a decent ubuntu system? to screw around with?
[19:48] <bioctoplasterio> can 10.10 be rolled back, or is that a re-install?
[19:48] <nit-wit> bi09?6zC97/@<+(
[19:48] <xangua> bioctoplasterio: no
[19:48] <GeekSquid> ccvp: please don't repeat, your question was answered ... that system should run great
[19:48] <yeats> bioctoplasterio: re-install, I'm afraid
[19:48] <sacarlson> capti: so what type of partition or raid should I setup as my root partition?
[19:48] <nit-wit> nit-wit, little leet
[19:49] <bioctoplasterio> ok, one more question... how do you share specific folders in 10.10 netbook?
[19:49] <ccvp> If i am going to make this 7800gtx Q9300 system
[19:49] <ccvp> be a media server type system, is western digital caviar Green sufficient?
[19:49] <ccvp> no need for WD Cav black?
[19:49] <xangua> bioctoplasterio: right clic > share¿
[19:49] <ccvp> 2TB Cav green = on sale at best buy 50% off today
[19:49] <bioctoplasterio> I have personal file sharing turned on so I can copy from my desktop to netbook, and I've even moved some files, but I have no idea where they are
[19:49] <bioctoplasterio> there's no right click in 10.10 netbook edition, apparently a kernel level issue
[19:49] <GeekSquid> ccvp: the green should be fine, good price too
[19:49] <capti> sacarlson: i tried the only choice is to have root selected as the whole md array. I could not make partition md0p1 within md0 from installer
[19:50] <ccvp> what are the blacks for?
[19:50] <sacarlson> capti: what do we really want one raid5 one raid1 and one ext4?
[19:50] <ccvp> high access servers, and gaming?
[19:50] <yeats> bioctoplasterio: you can go to your accessibility settings and set up simulated right click (by holding down left button) -FYI
[19:50] <bioctoplasterio> interesting...
[19:50] <sacarlson> yes an md is just like a partition you can't use 1/2 of sda1
[19:50] <bioctoplasterio> thanks yeats
[19:50] <KM0201> bioctoplasterio: thats cuz netbook sucks
[19:50] <KM0201> lol
[19:50] <wolf23> hi guys
[19:51] <wolf23> happy new year 4 al
[19:51] <GeekSquid> ccvp: essentially the same drive, only better at bursting when traffic is high, However the OS isn't fast enough to take advantage of it, nor is the FSB
[19:51] <KM0201> wolf23: u 2.. :)
[19:51] <yeats> bioctoplasterio: that issue for my HP shouldn't be the same for yours... if you have actual buttons, they should work - you might want to do some Google/Ubuntu Forums searching
[19:51] <wolf23> KM0201,  :)
[19:51] <capti> sacarlson: what i like to have is: one md0 with 3 phy disks. md0p1 for root md0p2 for home md0p3 for pictures etc. md0p1..md0pN with EXT4 FS
[19:52] <wolf23> anyone help me how to open jpg.rem files on ubuntu?
[19:52] <sacarlson> capti: what type of raid are they?
[19:52] <bioctoplasterio> yeah, I've been doing some of that...either I'm a moron when it comes to searching for Ubuntu netbook issues, or there isn't much about it yet.
[19:52] <capti> sacarlson: only one raid5 array
[19:52] <kcorcoran> sloyboots:  i am reading the wiki for sabnzbplus, and it states i will have a wizard appear at first run - this does not happen.  any ideas?
[19:52] <sacarlson> capti: so we just want 2 raid5 and one ext4?
[19:52] <skullboy> ok so how do i remove libjpeg62 without loseing lots of other apps
[19:53] <eXpl0it3r> is there a way to get applications started on diffrent real screens?
[19:53] <kcorcoran> slyboots:  i am reading the wiki for sabnzbplus, and it states i will have a wizard appear at first run - this does not happen.  any ideas?
[19:53] <sacarlson> capti: ok so you would be happy with my first?
[19:53] <sacarlson> capti: how big would you like each raid and ext4?
[19:54] <kcorcoran> goetter:  i am reading the wiki for sabnzbplus, and it states i will have a wizard appear at first run - this does not happen.  any ideas?
[19:54] <eXpl0it3r> i tried the DISPLAY environment variable, but it alsways outputs: cannot open display: :0.1
[19:54] <GeekSquid> eXpl0it3r: program :0    program:1
[19:54] <sacarlson> capti: how big should I setup my 3 simulated hard disks to be?
[19:54] <capti> sacarlson: sorry. not. I was not clear enough. one RAID5 array a big one. It will be /dev/md0. then create partitions under md0. called /dev/md0p1 for root which is ext4, then another partition called /dev/md0p2 for home with ext4 FS
[19:55] <wolf23> how can i open my jpg.rem files from my blackberry, thanx
[19:55] <d4rkc0r3> hello all
[19:55] <bioctoplasterio> yeats, looks like another user had the same right click issue on an Acer net book: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-one-hit-one-miss
[19:56] <iConfused> I know this probably isn't the proper location to ask, but, does anyone have experience running WoW under wine in here? (If this, y'know, isn't the right place to ask, could you tell me where I /should/ go?)
[19:56] <eXpl0it3r> GeekSquid: that doesn't work the app then tries to open :0 or :1 ;)
[19:56] <goetter> anyone have a suggestion for a usb network controller to use on a NAS box? i just found out my laptop's port is fried (was intending to use it as NAS)
[19:56] <goetter> :<
[19:56] <vlt_> wolf23: What type of files are these?
[19:56] <sacarlson> capti: well we will cal my 2 ext4 partitions sda5 and sdb5  and the one big raid5 mdX
[19:58] <GeekSquid> goetter: does your laptop have a PCMCIA slot?
[19:58] <wolf23> vlt_,  files shooting from my blackberry, i have copy paste them to my pc,but the files cannot open coz they are jpg.rem format
[19:58] <goetter> GeekSquid: oh yes, it does
[19:58] <vlt_> yeats: I'd reccommend using LVM on top of raid instead of creating partitons on /dev/md0
[19:58] <goetter> yes that would be better :3
[19:58] <GeekSquid> goetter: they make a USB 2.0 PCMCIA ... pretty cheap on ebay
[19:58] <bioctoplasterio> how do you add a launcher to the vertical dashbar in 10.10 for netbook?
[19:58] <vlt_> wolf23: What kind of data is this?
[19:59] <goetter> why would i want that -_- i just want an ethernet port not a usb port
[19:59] <wolf23> vlt_,  dont know
[19:59] <capti> sacarlson: sorry but not. /dev/sda5 is a partition does not belong to md0, but a partition on a phy disk
[19:59] <vlt_> wolf23: What does `file <your_file.jpg.rem>` say about it?
[19:59] <betarepeating> trying to share my netbook's wifi connection with my xbox 360 over crossover cable, followed the site instructions to share in network manager, it doesn't work. any help?
[20:00] <capti> sacarlson: the term /dev/md0p1 is exactly the same as used in gparted
[20:00] <yeats> vlt_: that wasn't me ;-)
[20:00] <Sadin> could anyone help mne with an error my server is giving me
[20:00] <sacarlson> capti: see my pm
[20:00] <yeats> bioctoplasterio: good - glad you could find a lead
[20:00] <wolf23> they come from the camera blackberry
[20:01] <Sadin> when i start up my server i get the following error :unknownfilesystem
[20:01] <Sadin> ould anyone help me?
[20:01] <goetter> any recommendations for a good pcmcia nic for use in an ubuntu nas?
[20:01] <vlt_> wolf23: I know, but your computer doesn't care where something comes from. You need to know what type of data this is.
[20:02] <brianmunk> can anyone recomend a good video-file editor program to cut parts out of an mpeg-ts file, like commercials etc?
[20:02] <Slyboots> fucking ubuntu
[20:02] <Slyboots> Honestly
[20:03] <Slyboots> Where are my god damn titlebars!
[20:03] <Slyboots> I just installed 400mbn of CRAP on a headless sever; and STILL no titlebars
[20:03] <KM0201> Slyboots: well, swearing about it won't make them appear, i promise
[20:03] <GeekSquid> goetter: I thought your USB was dead ... strike that ... they make a Ethernet that will fit into that PCMCIA slot.... but you knew that
[20:03] <betarepeating> KM0201: it's worked before
[20:03] <Slyboots> Well I feel slightly better about it
[20:03] <Slyboots> :(
[20:04] <KM0201> betarepeating: then you should've kept notes on how you made it work
[20:04] <guntbert> iConfused: try #winehq for wine questions
[20:04] <quiescens> o.o
[20:04] <iConfused> guntbert, thankies.
[20:04] <Slyboots> Metacity is running.. its not producting any errros
[20:04] <Slyboots> Im just not getting the blasted title-bars
[20:05] <GeekSquid> Slyboots: in terminal: compiz --replace-metacity
[20:05] <Slyboots> I dont have compiz installed
[20:05] <GeekSquid> Slyboots: it comes standard
[20:05] <ccvp> weird, when my secondary system is booting up ubuntu 10.10(64bit) on q9300 system, horizontal graphics lines...never had this happen before, could using a crt to dvi connector, so monitor can connect to dvi port on 7800gtx, cause ubuntu to have a glitched setup/install? and freeze the whole process?
[20:05] <Slyboots> Im running this though FreeNX; which doesnt have 3d accleration
[20:06] <GeekSquid> Slyboots: system>Preferences>Appearence... Visual Effects tab ... set to none
[20:06] <Sadin> Anyone have time to help with this weird error im getting?
[20:06] <Slyboots> Compiz FAILED - No composit extension.. Launching fallback window manager
[20:06] <Slyboots> Its already set to None
[20:07] <guntbert> !ask | Sadin
[20:07] <Gartral> can anyone help me with a synaptics touchpad problem?
[20:08] <guntbert> !anyone | Gartral
[20:08] <BEAST_MODE> HACK ZE PLANET
[20:08] <BEAST_MODE> HAHAHHA
[20:09] <Sadin> ok
[20:09] <bullgard4> [GNOME, Maverick] Using drag-and-drop I tried to move several files in a directory. This operation ended prematurely. Now each time when I am trying to move files by drag-and-drop Maverick will remind me of the unfinished operation. How can I make GNOME to forget that?
[20:09] <Sadin> Why am i getting this error unkownfilesystem and how can i fix it
[20:09] <Slyboots> Anyone any notion why..?
[20:10] <Gartral> guntbert, that's the problem, i dont know where to start, the touchpad settings in Mouse under System>Prefereces isn't there
[20:10] <Diamondcite> sadin, Not enough information, what is giving unknown file system where and when?
[20:10] <Spaztic_One> how can I easily resize the monitor (resolution) in terminal?
[20:10] <Diamondcite> Spaztic_One: Have a look at xrandr
[20:10] <BEAST_MODE> oR Black Ops attack
[20:10] <BEAST_MODE> hit subnet RQ170
[20:11] <psusi> !ops
[20:11] <Sadin> my system wont start when i power on my server is says unkown filesystem
[20:11] <KM0201> !ops | BEAST_MODE
[20:11] <rww> BEAST_MODE: This channel is for Ubuntu technical support. Please take nonsense elsewhere.
[20:11] <GeekSquid> Gartral: I trust you have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed?
[20:11] <Diamondcite> Sadin: Did you change anything recently? Or maybe experience a blackout?
[20:11] <Slyboots> Help me Tom Cruse! Use your Voodoo powers to fix Metacity!
[20:11] <Sadin> No diamond
[20:12] <KM0201> Slyboots: lol..
[20:12] <rww> Slyboots: You too ;P
[20:12] <Slyboots> I cant figure out why Metacity isnt drawing any titlebars
[20:12] <Diamondcite> Sadin: So you just started up the system as normal and it reports unknown file system?
[20:12] <Gartral> GeekSquid, yes! and current version
[20:12] <BEAST_MODE> eat RHINO COCK & SHINE MY SHOES
[20:12] <Sadin> im trying to install ubuntu desktop over my old server but i can startup my server because of this error plus my usb installer does not install ubuntu when i choose the option it runs ubuntu in my frashdrive
[20:12] <Sadin> and yes i started the computer normally
[20:12] <aimio> when i do aplay -l i get no soundcards found, how do i fix that ?..
[20:13] <bullgard4> Slyboots: Try to extract any error messages by using an equivalent command-line command.
[20:13] <guntbert> Gartral: what kind/make of touchpad/notebook?
[20:13] <gobbe> Sadin: please give whole error
[20:13] <Diamondcite> Sadin: If you start it up with a flash drive, does gparted see the partitions on the server drive?
[20:13] <Slyboots> There ARNT any; I've run metacity --replacee from the cli
[20:13] <GeekSquid> Gartral: next step try gpointing-device-settings
[20:13] <Sadin> well
[20:14] <Slyboots> It enver outputs any error messages
[20:14] <IdleOne> Slyboots: hit alt-f2 and type "metacity --replace" no quotes in the box see if that helps
[20:14] <Sadin> the error im getting when i boot system normally is just error :unkown filesystem then grub resue>
[20:14] <Gartral> guntbert, latest generation synaptics pad, unknown model.. laptop is a Google CR-48 Chrome testbed unit...
[20:14] <IdleOne> Slyboots: oh, never mind
[20:14] <Slyboots> Ah now.. this is intresting
[20:14] <Sadin> i dont get errors when i try to install desktop from flashdrive it just doesnt install and instead laucnhes ubuntu from the flashdrive
[20:14] <Slyboots> It works in VNC
[20:15] <Slyboots> But not FreeNX
[20:15] <guntbert> Gartral: follow GeekSquid please ....
[20:15] <aimio> is there anyone that can help me?
[20:15] <aimio> :S
[20:15] <Diamondcite> Sadin: I'm wonder if the hard drive in the server is still working properly.
[20:15] <Gartral> GeekSquid, installed, already newest
[20:15] <Sadin> if it isnt how might i fix it
[20:16] <Gartral> GeekSquid, , latest generation synaptics pad, unknown model.. laptop is a Google CR-48 Chrome testbed unit...
[20:16] <aimio> i have a lenovo ideapad s10-3t - sound is not working. i have added line to alsa,base,conf.. and in need of assistance please..
[20:16] <GeekSquid> Gartral: lspci lsusb pastebin (1000's of people are waiting for this information)
[20:16] <Diamondcite> Sadin: Would you mind trying to reparition the drive and do a full format on it? (This WILL ERASE ALL DATA)
[20:17]  * aimio running ubuntu 10.04.
[20:17] <KM0201> Slyboots: try disabling compiz, see if that gives you window bars.
[20:17] <Sadin> how would i dop that if my system wotn start...
[20:17] <bullgard4> !sound | aimio
[20:17] <Diamondcite> Sadin: Start with the flash drive and use the utilities that come with it.
[20:18] <Sadin> alright i will try that
[20:18] <aimio> i have tried all that..
[20:18] <Diamondcite> Sadin: There should be an app that handles partitioning called gparted.
[20:18] <lboken> hi all
[20:19] <Sadin> alright ill let you know in a few minutes if it doesnt work
[20:19] <Gartral> GeekSquid, generating a full rundown of lsxxx lists
[20:19] <infid> i love how everyone at work used to look at me like a dinsosaur for using vim/linux and now all the new generation wants to use it
[20:19] <lotus-blade> I want to set up xdmcp so that I can have clients access thier desktop from other terminals and clients.  how would I do this with gdm?
[20:19] <lboken> i would like to know wish ftp deamon  i should use for my ftp server  on my linux  wish one is easy to configure and all
[20:19] <Diamondcite> Sadin: Unfortunately I won't be active in a few minutes =/
[20:19] <Sadin> ok thats fine
[20:19] <Sadin> thanks for all your help
[20:20] <mongy> lboken, vsftp is about as easy as it gets.
[20:21] <Gerritjan> Hello
[20:21] <lboken> k thanks mongy ill look for it
[20:21] <Gerritjan> I'd like to install the JRE, but I don't know how?
[20:21] <Gerritjan> How to install it
[20:21] <Gartral> GeekSquid, sorry for the delay, settingup pastebinit
[20:21] <mongy> Gerritjan, enable the partner repo and install sun-java6-plugin
[20:21] <Slyboots> Okay..
[20:22] <Gerritjan> How can I enable it, mongy?
[20:22] <rww> !partner | Gerritjan: enable this, install sun-java6-jre
[20:22] <mongy> ^^ that
[20:22] <Slyboots> So; Metaframe works if I connect to the Xserver via VNC; but it seems that whatever FreeNX does to create the session breaks Metacity
[20:22] <GeekSquid> Gartral: NP... dmesg too if you dont mind
[20:23] <delinquentme> is there a way to consistently SSH into a computer that has a dynamic IP?
[20:23] <Gerritjan> How can I enable the partner repo?
[20:24] <vlt_> delinquentme: dyndns
[20:24] <lboken> delinquentme do you have a routeur who can connect    you to a ddns? also knows as dyndns
[20:24] <SimpsonTP> tried various pointers, but stil nautilus shows up in a mixture of dutch / english
[20:24] <Slyboots> .. I raeally hate linux sometimes
[20:25] <guntbert> Gartral: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad  (section "troubleshooting") ?
[20:25] <bullgard4> [GNOME, Maverick] Using drag-and-drop I tried to move several files in a directory. This operation ended prematurely. Now each time when I am trying to move files by drag-and-drop Maverick will remind me of the unfinished operation. How can I make GNOME to forget that? nautilus loads the CPU very much.
[20:26] <Gartral> GeekSquid, lspci:  http://pastebin.com/guqJiSR7 lsusb: http://pastebin.com/AMdC8Ugx lshw (Root!): http://pastebin.com/sJkjg3Km lscpu: http://pastebin.com/Mtvj1k9f lsmod: http://pastebin.com/Yyk30pTd dmesg: http://pastebin.com/bqMxWqAu
[20:27] <h4f> is there a way to record kernel panic info ?
[20:27] <nothings1ecial> delinquentme: depends what you mean, try byobu
[20:28] <GeekSquid> Gartral: reading something off a forum ... says lower right of touchpad is right-click
[20:28] <Gartral> GeekSquid, I dont like that, i want my multitouch! >.<
[20:28] <rww> h4f: Don't crosspost to multiple channels, please. Pick the one that applies to you (Ubuntu 10.10 or below here, Ubuntu 11.04 in #ubuntu+1) and use it.
[20:29] <Gartral> guntbert, i saw that
[20:29] <h4f> rww: sorry I thought there are more people here. wont do that any more
[20:30] <Gerritjan> How do I enable the partner repository
[20:30] <Slyboots> Must be a FreeNX bug
[20:31] <rww> Gerritjan: use the command ubottu already told you, sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[20:32] <GeekSquid> Gartral: cat /proc/bus/input/devices please
[20:32] <GeekSquid> Gartral: Running 10.10? yes?
[20:33] <quebecois> hi
[20:33] <Gartral> GeekSquid, yea
[20:33] <quebecois> can somebody help me with c++?
[20:33] <rww> quebecois: ##c++ can
[20:33] <quebecois> thanks
[20:35] <Gartral> GeekSquid, IDevices: http://pastebin.com/eajUjbcg
[20:36] <sudipta> hi
[20:36] <bullgard4> [GNOME, Maverick] Using drag-and-drop I tried to move several files in a directory. This operation ended prematurely. Now each time when I am trying to move files by drag-and-drop Maverick will remind me of the unfinished operation. How can I make GNOME to forget that? nautilus loads the CPU very much.
[20:38] <GeekSquid> Gartral: have you seen this http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2009/03/multi-touch-for-anyall-synaptics.html ... might get those events to be seen by the os
[20:38] <cozziemoto> bullgard4,  when trying to move another file  ...does the dialog offer  finishing the prior unfinished move?/
[20:38] <bullgard4> cozziemoto: Yes.
[20:38] <cozziemoto> bullgard4,  and you have already tried to finishe the prior move with no success?
[20:39] <bullgard4> cozziemoto: Yes.
[20:39] <aimio> what does it mean when i don't have a sound card in the sound preferences->hardware. but i have all the drivers and so on set. what is there more to do :S
[20:39] <cozziemoto> bullgard4, mm  was the prior move to an external drive maybe?
[20:40] <Gartral> GeekSquid, that's all HAL related though.. isn't hal depreciated?
[20:40] <bullgard4> cozziemoto: From an audio CD to an external USB drive.
[20:40] <GeekSquid> Gartral: isn't init depricated in your case?
[20:40] <mats990> hi. does anbody knows how can i edit the shutdown menu in gnome 2.32.0? i would like to add one other choice "restart to windows" which will start script to restart the computer
[20:40] <cozziemoto> bullgard4,   is the external usb driver plugged in when the you try to finish the prior move?
[20:40] <cozziemoto> drive
[20:41]  * aimio hates alsa..
[20:41] <bullgard4> cozziemoto: Yes.
[20:41] <skullboy> ok so how do i remove libjpeg62 without loseing lots of other apps
[20:41] <cozziemoto> bullgard4,   then I am puzzled,,, i would have assumed the cd contents would have been cashed  on the system and awaiting the usb driver for finishing... did you try to drag and drop the same files in the same way to the same drive
[20:41] <ocean> hi guys. i was trying to install ubuntu on my new hp laptop.used g parted to resize the and get some free space. freed the spaces alright and is showing up as an ullocated space. i wanted to configure this unallocated space and whn i choose this unallocated space all the tools go greay and i am not able to format this space at all.g parted keep saying that it is not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions.how can i get around this issue.thanks in a
[20:41] <ocean> dvance guys
[20:42] <shcherbak> mats990: it means you need to update grub on logout (every time), faster is to hit shift
[20:42] <Gartral> GeekSquid, just initramfs
[20:43] <aimio> when i try cat /proc/asound/cards i get no such file or dir.. ( how do i fix this ) ??????????????
[20:44] <mats990> shcherbak: i dont thinks so... couse i would like to press the button and go to a toillette and not to wait :D
[20:44] <GeekSquid> Gartral: /etc/hal/fdi/policy exists, and you should be able to write that( or similar ) into that folder ... Most of hal is depricated... and until some dev gets done this may be the only way to do what you want
[20:44] <Kartagis> when I try apt-get install anything, linux-image-2.6.35-23-generic tries to install itself but fails. how can I get rid of this behaviour?
[20:44] <smallfoot-> o
[20:44] <Gartral> GeekSquid, alright, i'll try
[20:45] <Gartral> GeekSquid, there's another problem
[20:45] <ShootEmUp> test
[20:45] <Gartral> GeekSquid, synclient -m 100 says there's not synaptics driver loaded
[20:45] <aimio> GeekSquid, can you assist me please.
[20:46] <aimio> when i try cat /proc/asound/cards i get no such file or dir. why does this happen and how to fix it..
[20:47]  * Slyboots starts or ub whats left of his sanity
[20:47] <Slyboots> Need a VNC client that supports XRender
[20:47] <bullgard4> cozziemoto: No, I did not. After Maverick stuck I looked what files were already copied completely. Then I  usually copied the unfinished first file that was not completely copied. And I was always successful. Then I tried to copy the rest files using drag-and-drop. Usually I was successful but the copy dialog reminded me that there was allegedly at least one unfinished copy process.
[20:47] <Slyboots> freeNX doesnt work
[20:47] <Random75> How do you hide the terminal when you start a program using it?
[20:47] <shcherbak> Random75: you mean gnome terminal?
[20:47] <Gartral> GeekSquid, it's a two-line error, may i paste it here?
[20:48] <GeekSquid> aimio: ask the channel, seems like your hardware is not being recoginzed
[20:48] <Random75> shcherbak: yeah
[20:48] <cozziemoto> bullgard4,  mm then I am puzzled...  I cant find any reference to this issue
[20:48] <GeekSquid> Gartral: yes, but copy it into one line with a couple of ## between them
[20:48] <shcherbak> Random75: and you want to minimize it?
[20:48] <shcherbak> Random75: Alt-Space
[20:48] <cozziemoto> bullgard4,   if no one can help here scoot over to the ##linux channel or  even #gnome  here on freenode or  #gnome on gimpnet server
[20:49] <aimio> GeekSquid, can that happen when drivers fail or is that beacuse of something else ? beacuse it was working before but i did something to mess it up :S
[20:49] <Gartral> Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled? ## Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
[20:49] <oneliner> where should i get started if i want to learn about midi in ubuntu?
[20:49] <GeekSquid> Gartral: w/sudo?
[20:50] <Gartral> GeekSquid, keep in mind too, that because of the nature of the chrome kernel, I'm FORCED too use that kernel, and not the ubuntu standard
[20:50] <bullgard4> cozziemoto: I do not know the word "to scoot over". Why is the #linux channel any better suited? My experiences withe the #gnome channel ion gimpnet are discouraging.
[20:50] <Gartral> GeekSquid, same error
[20:50] <delinquentme> so i go to run the command " sudo service ssh status " and i get back that ssh is " unrecognized service " however im sure ssh is on my computer bc im using github .. any idea why its not liking this ssh command?
[20:51] <cozziemoto> bullgard4,   scoot means to  move to .... ##linux should be much better
[20:51] <Myrtti> delinquentme: how about sshd
[20:51] <shcherbak> delinquentme: sudo netstat -tulp
[20:51] <delinquentme> sshd same thing
[20:52] <GeekSquid> Gartral: I caught that, seems like a kernel mismatch, in the way that ubuntu/chrome handles things... you may need to recompile some things under the chrome kernel.. and is really beyond my scope of knowledge
[20:52] <delinquentme> shcherbak, http://pastie.org/1421940
[20:53] <Gartral> GeekSquid, thats a hassel.. this machine only has a 16 gb ssd.. 6 of that is currently used for ubuntu
[20:53] <shcherbak> no ssh
[20:53] <aimio> i will give $60 to the person who helps me fix my sound problem..
[20:53] <shcherbak> delinquentme: ^^
[20:53] <GeekSquid> aimio: I'd reccomend running lsmod in your current OS and then doing the same thing under the Live disk to see if anything is missing from your config, cause it worked under the live disk, right?
[20:54] <Slyboots> Okay; I've tried stripping out Gnome..
[20:54] <Slyboots> But its still showing up in a broken form in vnc
[20:54] <Slyboots> Things like the background.. and the file manager and icon
[20:54] <delinquentme> shcherbak, does that mean its not running as a process? and i need to start it up?
[20:54] <Slyboots> So.. metacity? how to I remove that
[20:55] <bullgard4> cozziemoto: Thank you very much for your sympathetic comments.
[20:55] <shcherbak> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[20:55] <shcherbak> delinquentme: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[20:55] <aimio> GeekSquid, nah it was working sort of last night " the built in speakers where working, but not when plugged in the headphone jack, then i started to mess with the drivers, i installed oss,pulseaudio,alsa, and what not.. then when i made a reboot, the sound was completly gone.
[20:55] <Gartral> GeekSquid, there's a syntp driver that's in the chrome drivers, unfortuently, it's not a free object, and i dont know how to force load it without documentation
[20:57] <delinquentme> shcherbak, should i have a shh file in that dir? ubuntu 10.04?
[20:57] <GeekSquid> Gartral: seems like google is taking a Apple/Darwin/IOS locked down approach to their OS, and test hardware, which means that technically your arn't running ubuntu, as the kernel is ChromeOS.... Another thought, do you still have a Complete chrome file system, perhaps you can load that syntp.so (guess) into the appropriate /var/lib and load it with modprobe
[20:59] <wolfric> how do multiple desktops work on duel monitors?
[20:59] <delinquentme> actually i got it shcherbak
[20:59] <delinquentme> thanks!
[20:59] <f10d0r> wolfrix just use workspaces
[20:59] <Slyboots> Okay; Ayone have *any* idea how the hell you get "Xrender" working in a VNCserver
[20:59] <Slyboots> Thats all I need.. Xrender
[21:00] <aimio> ;/
[21:00] <wolfric> f10d0r: same thing
[21:00] <GeekSquid> aimio: loose oss and pulse, stick with the alsa, alsamixer is what you would use to switch to the headphone port (probably as sudo)
[21:01] <aimio> GeekSquid, the problem is i'm not sure how i can completely delete oss, and pulse drivers from my system..
[21:01] <aimio> ::S
[21:01] <mdmkolbe> Is there a way to set the sensitivity and acceleration of my mouse separately from my touch pad?
[21:01] <GeekSquid> aimio: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[21:01] <Gartral> aibolit, sudo apt-get purge oss pulseaudio
[21:02] <wolfric> Do duel monitors have to be treated like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GeMiWucx6w (as one big workspace) or can you have a seperate workspace per monitor
[21:02] <Gartral> aimio, , sudo apt-get purge oss pulseaudio
[21:02] <aimio> oh lol i did knew that command :S
[21:02] <aimio> thanks anyway for reminding me.
[21:03] <sucssi> Hello everyone, I'm having a wierd problem. I assigned 60GB to Ubuntu yesterday and now it says is full. I only used 5GB tops. Anyone has any ideas)
[21:03] <Slyboots> Anyone know how I can see any broken packages in Aptitude?
[21:03] <gobbe> sucssi: what says df -h
[21:03] <Ziber> If I have a box that has two harddrives in it, how can I access the second one?
[21:03] <gobbe> sucssi: put it to pastebin
[21:03] <System_Default_0> sucssi: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[21:04] <wolfric> sucssi: what do you mean assigned? try disk usage analyzer to see how it's used
[21:04] <_dev_null_> sucssi: have an fsck ? <-- this is my 'any' idea
[21:04] <sucssi> gobbe: http://pastebin.com/Vx3S9DYx
[21:04] <sucssi> System_Default_0, version 10
[21:05] <GeekSquid> Ziber: has the second one been formatted/partitioned? if not you will need to format it with gparted, which is not installed by default... then it will become available
[21:05] <System_Default_0> sucssi: 10. What?
[21:05] <Gerritjan> Hello, how can I install the latest Qt binaries?
[21:05] <sucssi> wolfric, I tried that. I mean, a set up a 60GB partition. I tried using disk analazyer but it shows / as full, but it does not specify where
[21:05] <Ziber> GeekSquid: the HD was used on another box, but for what it was doing (simply a firesharing server), I figured I'd just move it.
[21:05] <sucssi> System_Default_0, 10.4
[21:06] <GeekSquid> Ziber: does it show up in /media .. perhaps a mount -a to get starteed
[21:06] <sucssi> System_Default_0,  sorry my bad, 10.10
[21:06] <Ziber> only thing is /media is cdrom and cdrom0
[21:06] <System_Default_0> sucssi: Do you installed it from a Live CD? Or an USB?
[21:06] <sucssi> System_Default_0, from a live CD
[21:07] <gobbe> sucssi: you didn't run it with flag -h
[21:07] <artur> czesc
[21:08] <aimio> lol now even my sound icon in the tray is gone :S it seems like i just make it worse everytime :P
[21:08] <GeekSquid> sucssi: seems like you did 6 gigs instead of 60 ... boot to live disk, use gparted to resize the partition to 60
[21:08] <magicianlord> aimio: which distro
[21:08] <_dev_null_> sucssi: "find / -xdev -size +100000c"
[21:08] <gobbe> sucssi: anwyay, you have 6 gigs for /, not 60
[21:08] <System_Default_0> sucssi: Well, you can use Gparted for checking partitions properties. Or you can use the
[21:08] <System_Default_0> Palimpsest Disk Utility.
[21:08] <sucssi> oh crap
[21:08] <sucssi> my bad
[21:08] <Xintruder> would open office be the best office suite on ubuntu?
[21:09] <magicianlord> yes
[21:09] <Gerritjan> I'd like to install Qt 4, how do I do this?
[21:09] <age> Hello. Why do fonts in Chromium/Firefox not respect system font settings? I have hinting set to Full, but it appears different in chromium. Fresh 10.04 install here, tried both default Chromium and stable from PPA.
[21:09] <aimio> magicianlord, ubuntu 10.04 - lenovo s10-3t ideapad.
[21:09] <sucssi> Ill give it a go, sorry and thank everyone
[21:09] <ZeiP> Xintruder, it's probably has most features
[21:09] <GeekSquid> Xintruder: for most people oo.org is more than they need, I actually use it alot
[21:09] <ZeiP> Xintruder, the best one is a question that can be debated forever without any actual answer :)
[21:09] <Xintruder> GeekSquid: its better than open office?
[21:09] <h-dee> Hi...I'm in trouble. I'm a newbie not a hotshot in linux. I was trying to install a CMS in my /var/www (LAMP installed and working), but it wasn't working so I tried changing the permissions/owner of directories, and I changed owner for /var/ to local user RECURSIVELY. Now after I restrated, it showed up with .ICEAuthority error. Tried changing owner back to root, but didn't reolved.
[21:09] <GeekSquid> Xintruder: oo.org = openoffice.org
[21:09] <ZeiP> Xintruder, openoffice = openoffice.org
[21:10] <Xintruder> oh sorry lol
[21:10] <magicianlord> aimio: 10.04 has issues with the sound menu. 10.10 is better in that regard. try 10.10
[21:10] <Gerritjan> Never mind, already found the binaries, installing it now :)
[21:10] <yorf> Good evening, I'm able to transfer or view a bit of video from my USB video camera but in less than a minute everything halts and I eventually get "Error splicing file: Input/output error."
[21:10] <Gerritjan> I'm looking for an IDE to develop C++ in, can you recommend me one?
[21:10] <GeekSquid> h-dee: ownership recursively of /var/www should be www-data
[21:10] <bullgard4> Gerritjan: You do not install primarily files but packages. So find out what packages include Qt files. You can that by searching in Synaptic for packages having "Qt" in its name or description.
[21:10] <aimio> magicianlord, i'm not sure how to make a upgrade without losing my files so i can't do that before i learn that..
[21:11] <milamber> h-dee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54181
[21:11] <h-dee> GeekSquid: Sorry, din't got you.
[21:11] <bullgard4> Gerritjan: You do not install primarily files but packages. So find out what packages include Qt files. You can do that by searching in Synaptic for packages having "Qt" in its name or description.
[21:11] <guntbert> !ide | Gerritjan
[21:11] <damagednoob> how do identify the name of a program from the gnome launcher menu?
[21:11] <damagednoob> how do i*
[21:11] <h-dee> milamber: Thanks, let me see
[21:11] <GeekSquid> h-dee: the ownership of your CMS should be set to www-data
[21:11] <Gerritjan> I'd like to build GUI's at a gnome desktop
[21:11] <Gerritjan> Which one shall I use then?
[21:11] <guntbert> damagednoob: right click on the ubuntu icon, select edit menues,....
[21:12] <Gerritjan> I don't like to use a terminal based one
[21:12] <damagednoob> ta guntbert
[21:12] <magicianlord> aimio: you download the 10.10 iso from the website, use the startup usb creator to put i on hte flash drive, then copy your old files to a directory on that flash drive, then you restart, boot from usb, and install
[21:12] <milamber> Gerritjan: what language do you want to program in?
[21:12] <Gerritjan> C++
[21:12] <guntbert> Gerritjan: try them, use what you like :-)
[21:12] <h-dee> GeekSquid: Actually, the CMS was what I was trying to do, but now the problem is with the system when i changed /var owner to my local user which was previously root. It throwed ICEAuthority error at logon everytime.
[21:12] <age> Gerritjan: I'd try Anjuta, it has a graphical interface designer also.
[21:12] <bullgard4> damagednoob: Read the associated package desriptions one after the other. You can narrow down by selecting certain application categories.
[21:12] <aimio> magicianlord, i shall try
[21:12] <damagednoob> Gerritjan, there's Qt and Gtk frameworks
[21:12] <ShootEmUp> HAPPY NEW YEAR!
[21:13] <Gerritjan> Is Qt a good idea for gnome applications?
[21:13] <bullgard4> ShootEmUp: Same to you!
[21:13] <Slyboots> Does anyone; have *nay* idea.. how you enable "Xrender" over a vnc4server session
[21:13] <age> Gerritjan: No, GNOME uses Gtk+.
[21:13] <GeekSquid> h-dee: you screwed up your var directory by setting it to user... this is not easily fixable, I'd reccommend reinstalling
[21:13] <milamber> Gerritjan: in my opinion, the *easiest* way to get started is Qt Creator. it has a lot of good code examples built right in. the other gui option is gtk (which is installed by default)
[21:13] <age> So, no-one getting blurry fonts in Chromium.
[21:13] <Slyboots> I've been looking into this for nearly 5 days and Im no closer to figuring uot how to enable it
[21:13] <magicianlord> yes
[21:14] <Gerritjan> Are there also tutorials for GTK?
[21:14] <Gerritjan> If yes, can you pass me a link? :)
[21:14] <magicianlord> Slyboots: what is xrender=
[21:14] <Gerritjan> And further, is it compatible with C++?
[21:14] <h-dee> GeekSquid: Would reinstalling means I need to reinstall all those apps again? Or is there something like 'Repair Windows' in Linux too (Windows background)
[21:14] <Slyboots> magicianlord: ... a video render method?
[21:14] <Slyboots> I've nof reaking idea
[21:14] <milamber> Gerritjan: http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk-tutorial/2.90/
[21:14] <Gerritjan> Thank you
[21:14] <Qation> Can someone help me running docky? this is the error it gives: http://pastie.org/1421933 and I have dbus running
[21:14] <Slyboots> Just keep getting an error "Cant do Alphabeld without XRender
[21:14] <dsnyders> Hi all!  How do I merge to files side by side: eg  file1line1file2line1\nfile1line2file2line2 etc?
[21:15] <age> Gerritjan: There are bindings for Gtk+ to C++ -- gtkmm
[21:15] <otterpat> hello i have a problem
[21:15] <Gerritjan> Gtkmm, and is that also installed by default at Linux?
[21:15] <geirha> dsnyders: paste -d ' ' file1 file2
[21:15] <Gerritjan> Ubuntu*
[21:16] <milamber> Gerritjan: no. all of the documentation for gtk is at www.gtk.org
[21:16] <Gerritjan> Ok
[21:16] <GeekSquid> h-dee: start from scratch, you could create a package list from Synaptic and backup /var/cache/apt/archives to reinstall your apps so you don't have to dl them again
[21:17] <yorf> Hey, I can transfer or view a bit of video from my USB camcorder but in less than a minute everything halts
[21:17] <Gerritjan> And where can I find documentation for GTKMM?
[21:17] <age> Gerritjan: even if ther are not, you can easily install them.
[21:17] <milamber> !clone | h-dee
[21:17] <age> Gerritjan: http://www.gtkmm.org/en/
[21:18] <Gerritjan> Ok, then I'll start reading there
[21:18] <Gerritjan> Thanks for the help
[21:18] <age> :P
[21:18] <h-dee> GeekSquid: Seems like heck of a work. By the way, I was wondering if I somehow check for ubuntu installation on another system to check for file/directory owners of contents in /var/, and change accordingly...would it work?
[21:18] <h-dee> GeekSquid: Any idea about that?
[21:18] <guntbert> !ask | otterpat
[21:19] <dsnyders> geirha, what's the -d ' ' for?
[21:19] <milamber> Gerritjan: np. just take your time with it, there is a pretty steep learning curve with using the linux dev tools. the gtk-app-devel-list is a really good one to join and there are many people in #programming that are willing to help
[21:19] <GeekSquid> h-dee: that would take longer than reinstalling in my opinion as there are alot of things in /var that have alot of different, user and group permissions
[21:20] <Gerritjan> Ok
[21:20] <cntb> hi installed freenx in lucid want to contol same open session to help user .my old man. not new other session . what ways to accomplish remote assistance
[21:20] <milamber> Gerritjan: also if you are going to be using gtk you are going to want to google for: glade interface designer
[21:20] <h-dee> GeekSquid: I see. Anyways, thanks for your help. I appreciate it. If nothing works out, I'm gonna do that only. Have Fun. Happy New year. :-)
[21:20] <Gerritjan> I'm not familair with Linux, can I install it with packet manager?
[21:20] <shcherbak> GeekSquid: h-dee: ls-lR /var > prototype and write script to set it back
[21:20] <Gerritjan> (glade)
[21:21] <KM0201> Gerritjan: install what w/ package manager?
[21:21] <h-dee> shcherbak: How exactly? I'm a newbie
[21:21] <milamber> Gerritjan: yes, there is a version in the repos
[21:21] <dsnyders> geirha, I just saw the line in the man page where it says it separates lines with tabs by default.  Thanks and Happy New Year!
[21:22] <yorf> Hi, after a delay I get "Error splicing file: Input/output error" during a transfer
[21:22] <milamber> !info glade | Gerritjan
[21:22] <KM0201> hmm
[21:22] <Weedy> cntb: something like x11vnc
[21:22] <Gerritjan> Thanks
[21:22] <otterpat> the wlain on my dell inspiron 1545 is not working it is on and showing networks but i can not get on whthout being puled in to the router
[21:22] <shcherbak> h-dee: what is question... you do not know bash?
[21:22] <milamber> Gerritjan: np
[21:22] <cntb> weedy will control same open session and not open new one?
[21:23] <magicianlord> is it worthwhilte to set noatime on /boot ext in fstab?
[21:23] <h-dee> I know bash a little. What you want me to do exactly? I didn't understand that. I actually changed owner for /var recursively with all sub-directories. And ICEAuthority error starts to show up on reboot.
[21:23] <Weedy> cntb: ... that is what you asked for
[21:24] <Kondry> Sup everyone?
[21:24] <shcherbak> h-dee: what command have you used?#
[21:24] <cntb> good
[21:24] <dsnyders> Kondry, bulk renaming session
[21:24] <Kondry> Ah.
[21:24] <leetdood> my friend has ubuntu 10.10 and he b0rked his his x by lowering his resolution, it blacked out and didn't restore itself. how can he fix it?
[21:24] <h-dee> shcherbak: sudo chown -hR <username> /var
[21:24] <GeekSquid> leetdood: boot to recovery mode and run xfix
[21:25] <yorf> Hi, I get "Input/output error" after trying to transfer
[21:25] <Kondry> I was actually wondering if anyone would be able to help, does anyone know of VPNs for Ubuntu, as for Windows there is stuff like "CyberGhost", anyone know anything like that for Ubuntu?
[21:25] <shcherbak> h-dee: do you know how diff works?
[21:25] <GeekSquid> !vpn | Kondry
[21:26] <h-dee> shcherbak: No! Sorry!
[21:26] <h-dee> shcherbak: What's diff?
[21:26] <dsnyders> Kondry, Have a look at http://alternativeto.net/software/cyberghost/?platform=linux
[21:27] <nothingspecial> h-dee: That was silly
[21:27] <otterpat> the wlain on my dell inspiron 1545 is not working it is on and showing networks but i can not get on whthout being puled in to the router
[21:27] <Kondry> Tor looks good, thank you guys :)
[21:27] <shcherbak> h-dee: man diff , will paste you mine "/var" so you can change acordingly, is system still on after change?
[21:27] <h-dee> nothingspecial: I know. But, I was trying something. Wasn't aware of the consequences.
[21:28] <h-dee> shcherbak: Thanks. I'll check man for that. Yes, its working but not upto the mark, and shoes up a couple of error messages on reboot everytime.
[21:28] <saladin1980> ok SOS 911:)  ok now i installed 10.10 and now i had setup empathy and all that fun stuff but well NOW it says locked out and put in the pass that was supposedly setup and it is not:(  how do i reset that so i can reset that password?
[21:28] <ilovefairuz> otterpat: "pulled by the router"? how do you mean?
[21:29] <nothingspecial> chown  on system files is not a good idea, wether it matters or not, especially whole directories. No offence meant
[21:29] <ilovefairuz> !vpn | Kondry
[21:29] <h-dee> nothingspecial: Thanks. Got my lesson after this mistake.
[21:29] <jgedeon_> saladin1980: Reboot into single user mode.
[21:30] <otterpat> plugged in to the router
[21:30] <saladin1980> ok .. ok assume i am total newb jgedeon how do i do that:)?
[21:30] <lithaerien> Hello everyone, I'm having some trouble booting into the Ubuntu 10.10 Live CD with my Macbook Pro 3,1. Is there anyone able to assist me on this?
[21:30] <milamber> h-dee: it's the first of *many* we've all been there. just remember: backups, backups, backups
[21:30] <shcherbak> first paste is ls -l /var -- http://pastie.org/1422014
[21:30] <shcherbak> h-dee: ^^^
[21:30] <h-dee> milamber: Sure milamber! :-)
[21:31] <Kondry> Also, it it possible to hide your hostname while in IRC chats you are not familiar with?
[21:31] <h-dee> shcherbak: Thanks! Let me see
[21:31] <damagednoob> lithaerien, what's problem?
[21:31] <nothingspecial> h-dee: Yep - me too
[21:31] <ilovefairuz> otterpat: what's your laptop make and model?
[21:31] <lithaerien> Kondry: From my understanding you'll need to donate to freenode to hide your host.
[21:31] <ilovefairuz> Kondry: join #freenode, as for a mask
[21:31] <ilovefairuz> Kondry: ask **
[21:31] <otterpat> dell inspiron 1545
[21:32] <jgedeon_> saladin1980: Reboot and just before going to grub hold down the shift key.  If you go to recovery then choose command line you can do a passwd <username> and set the password
[21:32] <ilovefairuz> !who | otterpat
[21:32] <GeekSquid> Kondry: you will need to set a password with nick serv and then go to #freenode and ask that your nick be cloaked as unaffiliated
[21:32] <ilovefairuz> otterpat: what ubuntu version are you running?
[21:32] <guntbert> !register | Kondry
[21:32] <GeekSquid> Kondry: look at the info for my username ... you will see what it does
[21:32] <leetdood> GeekSquid: thanks, that fixed the issue
[21:33] <GeekSquid> leetdood: no problem, glad I could help
[21:33] <otterpat> ilovefairuz 10.10
[21:33] <mdmkolbe> Is there a way to set the sensitivity and acceleration of my mouse separately from my touch pad?  That is to say I want to have on sensitivity for my physical mouse and another for my laptop's integrated touchpad.
[21:33] <lithaerien> damagednoob: On my MBP I have two options to boot the Live CD one says EFI Grub and the other is normal. The normal way will come to a black screen with the letters and numbers 1. 2. Select CD-ROM Boot Type: The EFI Bootup will give me a kernel error after choosing try Ubuntu before installing. The Kernel error hints towards the filesystem not being readable.
[21:34] <magicianlord> is it worthwhilte to set noatime on /boot ext in fstab?
[21:34] <h-dee> shcherbak: This looks same. I think its the subdirectories problem. What I think is...when I chowned /var and subdirectories to my local user, there might be some files with local user permissions, and when I chowned back all to root again, they might have changed to belong to root, which might be a cause
[21:34] <bustedup277> Okay, so I am a TOTAL n00b. I just installed Ubuntu 10.10 on my USB, so I loaded my USB and it say Ubuntu and loaded. Then the window popped up saying Trial Ubuntu or Install It. So I press "Trial" or whatever, but then it just had the loading circle. So I wait, and I wait, and it never stops loading. So then I click the window and it says it's not responding. What is wrong?
[21:34] <milamber> mdmkolbe: System >> Preferences >> Mouse
[21:34] <bustedup277> Someone please answer. ;.;
[21:34] <lithaerien> damagednoob: The Select CD-ROOM Boot Type screen will leave my keyboard unresponsive too.
[21:34] <shcherbak> h-dee: now 1 part ls -lR /var -- http://pastie.org/1422021 till debconf (included)
[21:34] <delinquentme> OK! soo making progress .. I just realized that the IP address i get from www.whatsmyip.com is the same for BOTH computers im trying to SSH between lol .. this wont get me what i want ..  so how do i ssh to a particular computer WITHIN a network .. from outside that network?
[21:34] <ilovefairuz> otterpat: go to system > administration > additional hardware drivers, .. do you see an entry for your wireless card?
[21:34] <mongy> bustedup277, what did you use to make it
[21:34] <bustedup277> Umm...
[21:34] <mdmkolbe> milamber: AFAICT, that sets the same sensitivity for both mice.
[21:35] <bustedup277> I download the .iso file then I used Universal Installer and installed it on my USB stick.
[21:35] <Slyboots> No-one has *no-idea* how gto get XRender working in VNC?
[21:35] <ilovefairuz> bustedup277: how did you install it to the usd?
[21:35] <h-dee> shcherbak: Thanks...a long list. Let me compare!
[21:35] <shcherbak> h-dee: tell me what you want part 2...
[21:35] <ilovefairuz> bustedup277: usb **
[21:35] <GeekSquid> delinquentme: ifconfig will tell you what your ip is locally , the ip at whatismyip.com is the IP of your House, not the local computer
[21:35] <hellhound> i am having trouble getting ubuntu 10.10 to recognize my second monitor with nvidia-settings
[21:35]  * BernardV wishes everybody a happy new year
[21:35] <damagednoob> lithaerien, are you using an actual cd or is it usb? if it is a cd, could it be scratched?
[21:35] <KM0201> hellhound: whats wrong?
[21:36] <ilovefairuz> delinquentme: configure port forwarding on the router
[21:36] <otterpat> ilovefairuz: broadcom B43
[21:36] <GeekSquid> delinquentme: you will need to set a DMZ or nat route from within your router to allow access to a machine from outside the network
[21:36] <h-dee> shcherback: Yes, please part 2
[21:36] <ilovefairuz> otterpat: to enable/activate it
[21:36] <bustedup277> I simply used the universal installer to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix 2010, selected the file, which WAS correct, then I selected my E:/ drive as the output file, my USB stick. It works all the way until it freezes up when I click one of the options. Meaning that I see the Ubuntu logo loading and all.
[21:36] <h-dee> shcherback: especially /var/lib
[21:36] <hellhound> KM0201:  it only shows one screen and will not recognize the second one.. i have the nvidia driver installed
[21:36] <lithaerien> damagednoob: I had burned two CDs both with the same issue.
[21:37] <otterpat> ilovefairuz: it's activated
[21:37] <KM0201> hellhound: hmm.. never encountered that one...
[21:37] <delinquentme> thanks guys
[21:37] <damagednoob> lithaerien, do you have another pc to try them out on?
[21:37] <shcherbak> h-dee: ok /var/lib
[21:37] <otterpat> ilovefairuz: broadcom STA is not
[21:37] <ilovefairuz> otterpat: ok try STA
[21:37] <ilovefairuz> otterpat: and reboot
[21:37] <milamber> mdmkolbe: there is no easy way to do what you want. but it has been requested. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input is a good place to get started
[21:38] <lithaerien> damagednoob: I have this one that I'm talking with right now. A PC
[21:38] <bustedup277> Anyone have an answer? >_>
[21:38] <h-dee> shcherback: I found few culprits from part-1 you sent, hopefully changing those back to default might help. Thank you for your efforts. :-)
[21:38] <dsnyders> what chmod do I need to be able to rename files, x or w?
[21:38] <damagednoob> do the cds work on that one?
[21:38] <otterpat> ilovefairuz: i can not it will not let me
[21:38] <cntb> perfecto
[21:39] <ilovefairuz> otterpat: any specific errors?
[21:39] <otterpat> ilovefairuz: SystemError: installArchives() failed
[21:39]  * bustedup277 sighs.
[21:39] <damagednoob> dsnyders, i think you need w
[21:39] <Slyboots> Okay.. Hmm.. differnet approach
[21:39] <ilovefairuz> otterpat: are you connected using cable? if not, connect
[21:39] <Slyboots> If I use XForwarding to host the X11 enviroment on a remote PC
[21:39] <milamber> !chmod | dsnyders
[21:39] <lithaerien> damagednoob: Which I have tried a few days ago and it booted
[21:39] <Slyboots> Is there a way to have it to continue to run after the "host" has shutdown?
[21:39] <bustedup277> ilovefairuz; I answered your question, have any idea what's wrong.
[21:39] <Slyboots> So I can come back and connect to it later
[21:39] <GeekSquid> dsnyders: use sudo mv oldfilename newfilename to do it with out changing permissions
[21:39] <bustedup277> *?
[21:40] <nothingspecial> dsnyders: chmod does not rename files
[21:40] <ilovefairuz> dsnyders: x and w on the directory not the file itself
[21:40] <otterpat> ilovefairuz: yes i am it is the only way i can
[21:40] <mongy> otterpat, seen that before... sadly.  sudo apt-get install --reinstall bcmwl-kernel-source  (with cable connected)
[21:40] <ilovefairuz> bustedup277: try unetbootin
[21:40] <bustedup277> unetbootin = ?
[21:40] <damagednoob> bustedup277, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:40] <ilovefairuz> bustedup277: sudo apt-get install unetbootin .. and then run it
[21:40] <dsnyders> nothingspecial, chmod may not rename files, but it certainly can prevent them from being renamed
[21:41] <milamber> !screen | Slyboots
[21:41] <GeekSquid> !unetbootin | bustedup277
[21:41] <mongy> otterpat, selecting download updates during install actually installs the driver so, before you go onto partitioning etc, you can connect via wifi, and its there after you install..
[21:41] <damagednoob> lithaerien, sorry i'm out of ideas then
[21:41] <mongy> otterpat, just a btw
[21:41] <lithaerien> Thanks then
[21:41] <otterpat> mongy Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:42] <GeekSquid> otterpat: is synaptic running?
[21:42] <ilovefairuz> otterpat:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[21:42] <ilovefairuz> otterpat: if a package manager is running, close it, if an update is in progress, leave it till it finishes
[21:43] <nothingspecial> dsnyders: yes, but what do you want to do? perhaps <rename>
[21:43] <bleah6> hey , trying to install ubuntu from usb stick but i get something like "no init found"
[21:43] <bleah6> how do i fix that ?
[21:44] <mcc> Hello... I am having some trouble with PHP on ubuntu. It may be an apache configuration issue. When I try to run a php script, it waits a long time and then says "timeout waiting for output from cgi script". I think it doesn't know how to execute it.
[21:44] <mcc> I have php5-cgi installed but not libapache2-mod-php5. When I apt-get install -s libapache2-mod-php5, it says it is oging to attempt to uninstall my mpm-worker and replace it with mpm-prefork, which is not what i want.
[21:45] <otterpat> mongy ok reboot?
[21:45] <mongy> otterpat, no need to..
[21:45] <ilovefairuz> bleah6: do you get that while trying to install or after installation finished?
[21:46] <dsnyders> nothingspecial, I'm simply getting a permission denied when trying to rename a file.  I wasn't sure if I needed to change x or w.
[21:46] <bleah6> before ...
[21:46] <ilovefairuz> dsnyders: chmod u+w .
[21:46] <ilovefairuz> bleah6: try redoing the usb disk, use unetbootin
[21:46] <foolhardy> I'm in the cli and I'm looking at xorg.conf. I need to change the video driver to "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 173)" because X will not start as it is with my old geforce fx5500 card. I see the "device" section in xorg.conf. Right now the driver is "nvidia". Is this what I need to change?
[21:47] <bleah6> thats what i used ilovefairuz
[21:47] <mcc> Basically what is the difference between the php5-cgi and libapache2-mod-php5 ubuntu packages, and how does one configure the php5-cgi package?
[21:47] <bleah6> it says no init found and ash shell opens
[21:47] <otterpat> mongy additional drivers is grayed out
[21:47] <bleah6> anything i can do from there ?
[21:47] <nothingspecial> dsnyders: which file, where, are you sure?
[21:48] <ilovefairuz> bleah6: looks the files were corrupt, format it and do it again
[21:48] <mongy> otterpat, reboot or login/out if you think you need to.   lsmod | grep wl
[21:48] <bustedup277> ilovefairuz; It has finished installing, I will try it this time and see if it works.
[21:48] <bustedup277> brb
[21:48] <mongy> logout/in i mean lol
[21:48] <d9500> foolhardy: assuming that you have the nividia binary driver installed, that should be the correct entry
[21:48] <otterpat> mongy ok
[21:49] <KM0201> foolhardy: i run a 6800, and my "device" is set to "nvidia" just like yours
[21:49] <ilovefairuz> mcc: mod-php5 is an apache module that adds PHP support, php5-cgi is a "CGI binary" that could be used with any server supporting CGI (apache and others)
[21:49] <foolhardy> hmmm. Right now X won't start and even in the cli the screen keeps blacking out every 10 seconds
[21:49] <ilovefairuz> mcc: check /etc/php5
[21:50] <mcc> ilove: ok, cool. and i found this which is helping: http://www.bobulous.org.uk/coding/apache-php-cgi.html however now I am having a different problem
[21:50] <d9500> foolhardy: it may be that the nvidia driver isn't properly installed or the kernel module isn't loaded. what does lsmod | grep nvidia return?
[21:50] <foolhardy> it is strange because I can do a regular ubuntu desktop install and everything works correctly, and it uses "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 173)" driver. But with a minimal no-gui install X won't start
[21:50] <mcc> This and one other guide i saw said to add AddHandler and Action lines to my httpd conf. I did so, however, then I got the error: "Invalid command 'Action', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration"
[21:51] <foolhardy> i just did lsmod, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for
[21:51] <mcc> I did this inside of a <VirtualHost> directive. any idea what I might have done wrong there?
[21:51] <dsnyders> nothingspecial, the file is in my ~/Downloads and has -rw-r--r-- permissions.  I could easily do a chmod 777 and be done with it, but I was in a "do things properly" kind of mood today.
[21:51] <nothingspecial> dsnyders: I always found this useful http://linuxcommand.org/lts0070.php
[21:51] <ilovefairuz> mcc: what are you trying to accomplish? you don't need to configure PHP manually to make it work with apache, the packages do this by default
[21:51] <GeekSquid> foolhardy: the minimal does not have a GUI , sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to install the GUI
[21:52] <foolhardy> GeekSquid, I do not want the gui. I only need minimal install for xbmc to run
[21:52] <ilovefairuz> mcc: and use mod-php5 if you're using apache
[21:52] <foolhardy> I'm using "xbmclive"
[21:52] <mcc> ilovefairuz: i need it to work. if the packages are supposed to make it work by default then something went wrong.
[21:52] <ilovefairuz> !lamp | mcc
[21:52] <mcc> when i try to open a PHP script it downloads instead of running. the reason i cannot use the php5 module is that if i try that, it will uninstall mpm-worker and replace it with mpm-prefork
[21:52] <d9500> foolhardy: lsmod shows loaded kernel modules; using | grep nvidia will pipe the listing of modules through grep to find words matching nvidia. if lsmod | grep nvidia tuturns anything, then the nvidia kernel module is loaded. however, like GeekSquid said, if you have no gui (no Xorg) then X will not load.
[21:53] <mcc> and i have a need to use mpm-worker due to limited system resources
[21:53] <foolhardy> d9500, it did not return anything
[21:53] <d9500> *returns
[21:53] <ilovefairuz> mcc: and how does that impair your application ?
[21:53] <foolhardy> just cursor blinking
[21:53] <nothingspecial> dsnyders: In your own /home do what you like ;) That is properly.
[21:53] <foolhardy> not evenr eturned to prompt
[21:53] <d9500> foolhardy: then the kernel module is not loaded.
[21:53] <GeekSquid> foolhardy: there is a #xbmc channel, for help with xbmc
[21:53] <mcc> it's a little bit complicated-- i have a limited amount of RAM (this is a xen instance) and there is a particular script running on this machine which is hit very heavily
[21:53] <mcc> i mean, this is why i need mpm-worker
[21:54] <jgedeon_> user@host:/# sudo a2enmod php5
[21:54] <jgedeon_> user@host:/# /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload
[21:54] <d9500> foolhardy: how did you install the driver if you have no gui? sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-VERSION?
[21:54] <mcc> because i need to be able to limit the live number of processes
[21:54] <jgedeon_> foolhardy: yes
[21:54] <foolhardy> current drivers are installed automatically with xbmc live but I require legacy
[21:54] <ilovefairuz> mcc: if you're trying to conserve memory, then apache is certainly not for you, use lighttpd for an easy-to-configure lightweight web server that supports PHP too
[21:55] <GeekSquid> foolhardy: no gui means that you wouldn't need the nvidia driver, as the cli displays fine on nvidia cards and doesn't need graphical support
[21:55] <mcc> To recap: I am trying to use the php5-cgi package instead of the one that installs a module, but am having trouble clarifying to apache that it needs to use the php5-cgi app. ... actually wait i guess i could do that with a hash-bang. one minute
[21:55] <foolhardy> i can get assistance in xbmc-linux channel I just thought this was an ubuntu issue, since xbmc won't even load
[21:56] <mcc> ilovefairuz: this sounds like an extremely attractive option, however, i'm a little short on time this afternoon and that sounds like it would take awhile to get running
[21:56]  * mcc tries addhandler cgi and modifying his scripts to use a hashbang
[21:56] <ilovefairuz> mcc: not at all, you would only have to install a couple of packages and uncomment some lines in the config
[21:56] <foolhardy> but I am getting "(EE) No drivers available" when startx
[21:57] <ilovefairuz> mcc: you would be surprised
[21:57] <d9500> foolhardy: unless xbmc can somehow run straight against a console framebuffer, then you'd need a gui (that is, X server and its associated software) to run it at all. I don't follow xbmc development, but i'm guessing it still requires X.
[21:57] <mcc> ilovefairuz: well, the problem is I have some somewhat elaborate apache configuration as it stands involving multiple virtual hosts, mod_perl etc. So I'd have to recreate all that in lighty.
[21:57] <foolhardy> d9500, it does use x
[21:57] <foolhardy> but x won't start
[21:57] <lwizardl> hi
[21:58] <ilovefairuz> mcc: i see
[21:58] <foolhardy> therein is my conundrum
[21:58] <meco> Flash crashes in Firefox whenever I attempt to enter fullscreen mode, either in Facebook games or on YouTube. I read somewhere that I should swithc off hardware acceleration for the Flashplayer but I cannot find any menu where this is an option. Any suggestions?
[21:58] <mcc> it is probable i am trying to do too much with this box at once.
[21:58] <d9500> foolhardy: i thought you did a minimal (no gui) install? did you install X after that manually, then?
[21:58] <lwizardl> where do you find the settings to enable headphones in 10.10 desktop? when i plug in my headphones nothing works besides the internal laptop speakers
[21:58] <foolhardy> (EE) Failed to load module"nvidia"
[21:58] <hellnest> meco: install non-free flash plugin :)
[21:58] <dsnyders> nothingspecial, I just didn't know whether x or w controlled renaming a file.  Turns out the x on the renaming script file was missing.
[21:59] <nothingspecial> dsnyders: just +x will let ou exceute it
[21:59] <foolhardy> I used xbmc live to install. it installs x, just with no desktop environment
[21:59] <otterpat> mongy did not work
[21:59] <foolhardy> normally boots straight into xbmc, but since x won't start, it doesn't
[21:59] <meco> hellnest: Is that compatible with Flash 10.1?
[21:59] <mongy> otterpat, network manager not picked up any stations?
[21:59] <ilovefairuz> meco: perhaps you mean compositing? system > preferences > desktop effects
[21:59] <mongy> lsmod | grep wl    what does that bring back.
[22:00] <ilovefairuz> hellnest: meco: the non-free flash plugin *is* the same one from adobe
[22:00] <mcc> "This PHP CGI binary was compiled with force-cgi-redirect enabled.  This means that a page will only be served up if the REDIRECT_STATUS CGI variable is set, e.g. via an Apache Action directive"
[22:00] <mcc> ...bother
[22:00] <d9500> foolhardy: then that's not a minimal command-line install. you had GeekSquid and I trying to diagnose the wrong problem--no big deal, now that we can tell better what the problem is, but when you said minimal install, i thought you meant no X.
[22:00] <nothingspecial> dsnyders: if you own the file, of course
[22:01] <foolhardy> I see. My mistake.
[22:01] <mcc> oh, i need to a2enmod actions.
[22:01] <hellnest> ilovefairuz: lol, i'm noob just try to help :) dunno the diff. Also he asking about the hw accleration. The setting is inside firefox. If you point him to desktop-effects, it's mean compiz setting not hw accleration :)
[22:01] <cholten99> Hi. I'm having a problem where running some apps (VLC, aMSN, Calibre, etc) cause my box to reset (I'm runing 10.10). I thought it might be a rogue config problem so I've just finished a complete clean re-install and have the same thing :-(. Is there an easy way to look at some crash-logs to find out which shared library (which I'm guessing is the cause) is to blame? Thanks.
[22:01] <meco> ilovefairuz: I cannot find 'desktop effects' here on hardy
[22:01] <foolhardy> What should I have said - since it installs x but there is no desktop environment like ubuntu desktop
[22:01] <ilovefairuz> hellnest: and i pointed that out
[22:01] <magicianlord> cholten99: log viewer, or in /etc/log
[22:01] <foolhardy> just not "desktop"?
[22:02] <hellnest> ilovefairuz: you're the expert :)
[22:02] <foolhardy> well, irrelevant I guess. So yea, x won't start and I'm getting "no drivers available"
[22:02] <d9500> foolhardy: if xbmcliv installs only the current nvidia (260.19.29 i think) drivers by default and you need the legacy 173 drivers, then it should be as simple as apt-get purging the newer drivers, rebooting, and apt-get instaling the legacy 173 drivers, running nvidia-xconfig as root to make a new xorg.conf, and then starting X.
[22:02] <epaphus> Hello. I have installed openswan... how do I know of my generic kernel already has ipsec support compiled in ?
[22:02] <Maahes> magicianlord: /var/log not /etc/log
[22:02] <magicianlord> Maahes: thank you
[22:02] <foolhardy> d9500, forgive me, but how do I purge the current drivers? sudo apt-get purge nvidia?
[22:03] <meco> I cannot find system > preferences > desktop effects here on hardy. Where should I look?
[22:03] <magicianlord> foolhardy: from synaptic package manager, find nvidia driver currently installed and then right click and purge
[22:03] <otterpat> mongy well let me rephrase my problem yes it connects but it disconnects
[22:03] <foolhardy> magicianlord, how do you access spm from cli?
[22:03] <Maahes> meco: I don't think hardy has that menu
[22:04] <jgedeon_> epaphus: your kernel should if you have not rebuilt a customer kernel.  It should be on by default.
[22:04] <cholten99> Okay, thanks. I now have Log Viewer up. Hints for which log and what I should be filtering for to hunt for reset causes?
[22:04] <ilovefairuz> meco: first try: alt + f2, metacity --replace   ... does this help with the flash problems?
[22:04] <Maahes> you need to install compiz-gnome or compiz-config-settings-manager (ccsm)
[22:04] <mongy> otterpat, ah well,  was there the b43 driver available.. bu I use STA fine..
[22:04] <magicianlord> i use sta, becaue its the only one that works
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Maahes: it's compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:04] <epaphus> jgedeon_ hmm.. do you have a source i can show my friend who is breaking his head blaiming the kernel? iam running lucid from a minimal install
[22:05] <mongy> magicianlord, +1
[22:05] <Maahes> ActionParsnip: danke.
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Maahes: np broseph :)
[22:05] <meco> ilovefairuz: No, that made no difference
[22:05] <otterpat> the STA did not work at all
[22:05] <d9500> foolhardy: i don't know the exact syntax for that since i'm not running the current ubuntu. i'm guessing you would run apt-cache search nvidia to find all available nvidia drivers in the repos, run dpkg -get-selections | grep nvidia to see currently installed nvidia drivers, and then, if the current driver is the most recent (256 or 260 insteaad of 173) purge that package name.
[22:06] <epaphus> jgedeon_ iam running 2.6.32-27-generic i386
[22:06] <otterpat> mongy the STA did not work at all
[22:06] <ilovefairuz> meco: you're using a rather old ubuntu release, i suggest you install a newer version, Lucid 10.04 is an LTS release too
[22:07] <GeekSquid> d9500: foolhardy: xbmc-live is not a ubuntu distro, and unfortunately is not supported here, I suggest you look elsewhere for help, you can install a regular ubuntu and install xbmc after you get the nvidia drivers working, seems like you would have better luck than using the xbmc-live, and better support with the true ubuntu base
[22:07] <meco> ilovefairuz: Yeah.. I know...
[22:07] <magicianlord> what is xmbc
[22:07] <r00t4rd3d> xbmc ?
[22:07] <magicianlord> foolhardy: you can try purging nvidia-current
[22:07] <jgedeon_> epaphus: Are you running a hardy box?
[22:08] <GeekSquid> magicianlord: xbmc is a media center pc, that runs under a number of linux distros
[22:08] <magicianlord> yes?
[22:08] <itaylor57> looking for distros with dead in the name should return good options
[22:08] <dansan> Ok, so I don't understand the underlying security model that's dictating chroot's behavior.  I can't create a chroot jail and run it as either root or anybody else (on Ubuntu).  I don't want to use schroot, I want to do it the manual way 1st because I want to understand it.  I get "Operation not permitted"
[22:08] <rww> foolhardy: I already told you yesterday that XMBC-Live isn't supported here because it's an unofficial derivative, and to seek support from the XBMC people. Please consider listening to that.
[22:09] <dansan> do I need to screw with pam? /etc/security/limits.conf?
[22:09] <mongy> otterpat, odd.  which broadcom is it
[22:09] <mongy> otterpat, lspci -v | grep Broadcom
[22:09] <dansan> I copied bash & it's dependencies into the jail, added proc & dev, no dice
[22:09] <sparrowminer> ciao
[22:10] <GeekSquid> !it | sparrowminer
[22:10] <sparrowminer>  /join #ubuntu-it
[22:10] <sparrowminer> ciao
[22:10] <ilovefairuz> sparrowminer: no space before /
[22:10] <bluezonemobile> Lol
[22:10] <dansan> :)
[22:11] <dansan> I've done that before too
[22:11] <mcc> Problem solved. Thanks all for the help
[22:11] <knoppies> I have a built in GSM modem on my laptop, and I was wondering if anybody knew of an app that I could send/receive SMS/text msgs with?
[22:11] <sparrowminer> good night
[22:11] <foolhardy> rww, I wasn't aware of that
[22:11] <sparrowminer> good night
[22:11] <otterpat> mongy the one that is not working is the STA and the one that is is the B43
[22:11] <foolhardy> telling someone that you already told them something doesn't help, especially when they weren't aware of it
[22:11] <GeekSquid> knoppies: gsm-utils includes what you need
[22:11] <knoppies> thanks GeekSquid
[22:12] <mongy> otterpat, its the opposite for me.  well as long as its working.
[22:12] <rww> foolhardy: When someone says something to you in a channel that you're in and don't subsequently leave for 2 hours, the expectation is that you read that message. Either way, now you know.
[22:12] <oneliner> anyone knows jack about jack?
[22:12] <dansan> very little oneliner
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: nothing
[22:13] <dansan> oneliner: but try me
[22:13] <GeekSquid> oneliner: /join #jack
[22:13] <oneliner> am fiddling in double depth; new in ubuntu and new at handling midi
[22:13] <ilovefairuz> !details | oneliner : and watch your language
[22:14] <oneliner> ilovefairuz: just an innocent pun, but anyways
[22:14] <dansan> :)
[22:14] <otterpat> mongy well working is a relative term still disconnecting
[22:14] <dansan> oneliner: and I have no clue what double depth is :)
[22:14] <rww><PHONE_NUMBER>5556
[22:14] <rww> m/t
[22:15] <oneliner> that an exaggeration of "over my head" :)
[22:15] <GeekSquid> rww: speaking in code again?
[22:15] <dansan> oneliner: ahhh, well I use jack with ardour, but try #jack or #ardour
[22:15] <nothingspecial> dansan: If you try copying bash and chrooting, remember to preserve the directory structure - after all bash looks for ls in /bin (or /usr/bin) ** whereever it is**, if you see what I mean.
[22:16] <rww> GeekSquid: I'm not good at multitasking, it seems :(
[22:16] <delinquentme> does anyone know what kind of software a default IP of http://<IP_ADDRESS> would be for?
[22:16] <delinquentme> if thats my default gateway
[22:16] <oneliner> i am trying to get to grasp with the basic concept of the midi server and trying to get rosegarden to reproduce the midi examples (it appears to be running alright but i get no sound)
[22:16] <dansan> nothingspecial: thanks for the response.  I believe I've copied the directory structure correctly.  I've actually also copied firefox & it's dependencies as well.  Maybe I should be a pastebin of the contents
[22:17] <ilovefairuz> delinquentme: try nmap's os/version probing?
[22:17] <ilovefairuz> and google too.
[22:17] <GeekSquid> delinquentme: not software, just network, not a standard IP, but some routers don't stick to the mainstream, not a problem though
[22:18] <ilovefairuz> dansan: perhaps what you're looking for is an apparmor profile for firefox ?
[22:18] <nothingspecial> dansan: I`m theorising, I`m not sure if I could actually help :)
[22:18] <sparrowminer> ciao
[22:18] <delinquentme> GeekSquid, ilovefairuz so the issue is its coming up with just a screen thats says "It works! "
[22:18] <GeekSquid> sparrowminer: ciao bella, can we help you with something?
[22:19] <dansan> and I lied, sorry.  What it actually says is "cannot find file /bin/bash", I get the "Operation not permitted" when trying to run as non-root, but of course, I want non-root to run in the end
[22:19] <GeekSquid> delinquentme: looks like an apache webserver
[22:19] <dansan> http://pastebin.ca/2036113
[22:19] <delinquentme> GeekSquid, can that be installed on a wireless router?
[22:20] <dansan> Here's my chroot contents.  I have it in /var/chroot/firefox and I'm running "chroot /var/chroot/firefox /bin/bash"
[22:20] <ilovefairuz> delinquentme: that's the default apache welcome page
[22:20] <otterpat> mongy i wonder  if it is my wireless card itself i just created a wireless network and it has no signal strength but is is conned
[22:20] <PhilT> delinquentme: routers run web servers for GUI, not usually apache though
[22:20] <GeekSquid> delinquentme: in theory, yes, I don't know why it would be, but if you have port forwarding enabled, you would be looking at the webserver of your local machine
[22:20] <dansan> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[22:21] <GeekSquid> delinquentme: try http://localhost .... see if you get the same result
[22:21] <goetter> for sharing between two ubuntu machines, which of nfs and samba is less cpu intensive/more efficient?
[22:21] <mongy> otterpat, for me b43 worked flaky, and signal was always very low, rate was fluctuating from 1mb/s to 54mbp/s all the time
[22:21] <delinquentme> GeekSquid, yeap sure do!
[22:21] <ilovefairuz> goetter: ssh does just fine, places > connect to
[22:22] <goetter> sorry, console only i meant
[22:22] <knoppies> goetter, I use the connect to menu and ssh (ts actually sftp or something I think)
[22:22] <goetter> i'll be using this to share media for xbmc
[22:22] <goetter> and other things
[22:22] <ilovefairuz> goetter: sudo apt-get install sshfs
[22:22] <ccvp> wow, this freaking owns
[22:22] <ccvp> ps3mediaserver succesfully installed on 10.10
[22:22] <Sadin_> i start my ubuntu 10.04 system and it works fine then after a few minutes my screen goes black and flashes some white stripes and does not go back to unutu and i cannont do anything what does this mean
[22:22] <ccvp> now transcoding raw .ts(blue ray files)
[22:22] <GeekSquid> delinquentme: guessing <IP_ADDRESS> is your local machine and your gateway is actually <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:22] <ccvp> over the wireless N lan, to all devices on my lan
[22:22] <ccvp> , ie: xbox360/ipad/iphone....win
[22:22] <goetter> okay sshfs looks simple enough
[22:23] <delinquentme> GeekSquid, own.
[22:23] <goetter> but one of my clients is an appletv, which doesn't have an amazing cpu
[22:23] <knoppies> goetter, once you have the drive mounted, I think xbmc can use it. I haven't tested that yet. Im not sure then, I haven't done much successful fiddling with samba
[22:23] <delinquentme> GeekSquid, how are people supposed to know these things haha?
[22:23] <goetter> i'd like to give it the implementation that eats the least cpu
[22:23] <goetter> so that it has more to play videos with :3
[22:23] <bastidrazor> ccvp: i just setup ushare to stream media to the xbox and ps3
[22:23] <GeekSquid> delinquentme: 20 years at the game and I still don't know everything
[22:23] <ilovefairuz> goetter: lighttpd?
[22:24] <ccvp> bastidrazor
[22:24] <ccvp> i couldnt get ushare setup
[22:24] <dansan> ilovefairuz: Interesting.  I'm not running SELinux, and although I can re-compile the kernel any way I like, I'm thinking that running a version of firefox in a chroot that has the stupid plugins and having a separate "clean" version (no goofy plug-ins) would be a safe approach
[22:24] <ccvp> it wouldnt see any of my ubuntu shares
[22:24] <ccvp> for whatever reason when i browsed in my 360
[22:24] <ccvp> im running ps3media server on a Q9300/6gigddr3/ubuntu 10.10
[22:24] <ccvp> its pretty quick
[22:24] <GeekSquid> !enter | ccvp
[22:25] <dansan> ilovefairuz: I've seen some HOWTOs that say how to do it with schroot, but I want to make it work manually 1st (at least a bash prompt) to make sure I understand the tech & implications before I proceed with any higher level software
[22:25] <bastidrazor> ccvp: you tell it which folders to share in /etc/ushare.conf
[22:25] <ilovefairuz> dansan: apparmor is NOT SELinux, is a similar but separately developed technology
[22:25] <ccvp> have you checked out ps3mediaserver
[22:25] <dansan> ilovefairuz: ahh
[22:25] <ccvp> for ubuntu?
[22:25] <ccvp> seamless transcoding...any fileformat/extension
[22:25] <bastidrazor> ccvp: no, ushare was the first i tried and it works fine.
[22:25] <Gartral> GeekSquid, so what do you make of the chromebook's lscpu output?
[22:26] <ccvp> well i may msg u if i get issues with ps3mediaserver
[22:26] <ccvp> can ushare transcode any file as well?
[22:26] <ccvp> when browsing through the 360?
[22:26] <ilovefairuz> dansan: and it's way much easier to configure than SELinux
[22:26] <bastidrazor> ccvp: i can not get mp4's to play on either ps3 or 360.. the only issue i have.
[22:26] <ccvp> mp4 = mkv?
[22:26] <ccvp> , ie: h264 avi's?
[22:27] <dansan> ilovefairuz: thanks, I'll read up on it.  But I still want it jailed & separated from the rest of the filesystem.
[22:27] <GeekSquid> Gartral: nothing special "GenuineIntel"
[22:27] <ilovefairuz> dansan: it does that and much more
[22:27] <dansan> ilovefairuz: it's adobe flash that's the huge leak
[22:27] <nothingspecial> GeekSquid: ?
[22:27] <ilovefairuz> dansan: i enable it only on youtube
[22:28] <dansan> ilovefairuz: Here we are with perhaps the most secure operating system on the planet and we're installing one of the most insecure binaries on it opening it up to the world!
[22:28] <Gartral> look at the core/cpu count
[22:28] <dansan> ilovefairuz: yeah, I just want to go a step further
[22:28] <GeekSquid> nothingspecial: not for you .. notice the space, the answer was in relation to rww's question
[22:28] <Gartral> GeekSquid, ^^^
[22:28] <bastidrazor> ccvp: the extension.. file.mp4  .. at the moment i'm unable to test if changing the extension will work.
[22:28] <nothingspecial> GeekSquid: sorry
[22:28] <dansan> ok, gotta afk, brb
[22:29] <ccvp> ps3 media server was able to stream a 90gig uncompressed blueray .ts file to my ipad via ps3medaiserver running on ubuntu 10.10
[22:29] <ccvp> over wireless N, with NO hiccups
[22:29] <linxeh> nice
[22:29] <ilovefairuz> dansan: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguinswf/2008/08/secrets_of_the_mmscfg_file_1.html
[22:29] <ilovefairuz> dansan: you can disable ALL filesystem read/write operations
[22:29] <GeekSquid> Gartral: I see 2 cores (Intel Core Duo) on 1 socket,
[22:30] <ccvp> Is there a good usenet browser for Ubuntu 10.10, thats as good as newsleecher?
[22:30] <mongy> ccvp, lottanzb
[22:30] <andrewax> if problem is youtube on full screen, just disable hardware acceleration@
[22:30] <ccvp> mongy, usenet provider independant?
[22:30] <ccvp> so it'll work with giganews?
[22:30] <mongy> ccvp, or ninan if you want something a bit harder/special.
[22:30] <mongy> ccvp, yes.
[22:31] <RedSingularity> How can I change the default playback speed in VLC?
[22:31] <knoppies> I have a built in Huawai GSM modem on my laptop product ID: 1404, how do I find a 'marketing name
[22:31] <ccvp> mongy, can i tell it to utilize the 50 connection capability that giganews has?
[22:31] <mongy> ccvp, yes
[22:32] <mongy> ccvp, and ssl and, whatever else
[22:32] <ccvp> on lottanzb.org it has 10.04 as latest, assume that works fine w/ 10.10?
[22:32] <Xintruder> Can we have Ubuntu clients authenticated on a windows environment (authenticate through AD)?
[22:32] <Gartral> GeekSquid, there's the discrepency.. in lscpu it comes up an Atom N455.. not Core Duo
[22:33] <mongy> ccvp, might wanna use the beta 0.6
[22:33] <DasEi> knoppies: install hwinfo, it's output is detailed
[22:33] <knoppies> thanks DasEi I will give it a try.
[22:33] <mongy> ccvp, its moving from hellanzb as backend to sabnzb as backend..  better and has web interface if needed
[22:33] <mongy> ccvp, http://www.lottanzb.org/2010/07/lottanzb-0-6-daily-builds-available/
[22:33] <GeekSquid> Gartral: cat /proc/cpuinfo .... little more detailed info
[22:34] <mongy> ccvp, just remember to add the sabnzb ppa as well from that page, and install it...
[22:34] <mongy> ccvp, other than that, its easy as pie to setup
[22:34] <ccvp> ok, uninstalling the latest stable then
[22:34] <ccvp> didnt see that .6 was there
[22:35] <mongy> ccvp, could just upgrade it :)
[22:35] <mongy> ccvp, ok nvm
[22:35] <ilovefairuz> Xintruder: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[22:35] <DasEi> knoppies: also gnome-device-manager, if you prefer GUI
[22:35] <mongy> ccvp, ive used the 0.6 for a while, works fine.
[22:36] <hihihi100> i installed a dictionary for windows under wine, i cannot access it nor delete it, can i still accessthe contents of the dictionary?
[22:36] <Gartral> GeekSquid, woaw, flags I've never seen befor
[22:36] <GeekSquid> Gartral: lemme see | pastebinit
[22:36] <ccvp> how do i add sabnzb ppa? i have no clue what that means
[22:36] <ericstewart> I just compiled and installed ruby from source. I can't figure out how to make aptitude exclude ruby from installing as a dependency.
[22:37] <Gartral> http://pastebin.com/krpRXUdu
[22:37] <Gartral> GeekSquid, http://pastebin.com/krpRXUdu
[22:37] <knoppies> DasEi, I might have a look at that too, but hwinfo gave me some info so I think I am able to move forward. I need to reboot though. Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it.
[22:37] <okapi> hi all, how can I find duplicate line in a text file?
[22:37] <red2kic> hihihi100: Applications --> Office --> Dictionary.  Something wrong with that?
[22:37] <DasEi> knoppies: nice
[22:37] <mongy> ccvp, just add ppa:lottanzb/daily-build   and  ppa:jcfp/ppa   and update and install lottanzb and sabnzb{tab it}   as I dont know full name
[22:38] <indystorm> yay!!! I got ubuntu server up and running! SWEET!!! :)
[22:38] <hihihi100> thats not my point red, im talking about this particular larousse dict
[22:38] <ccvp> do i paste those two lines in "other software" sources?
[22:38] <ccvp> in update manager?
[22:38] <DasEi> !ppa | ccvp
[22:38] <GeekSquid> Gartral: google's gone apeshizzle!
[22:39] <elliott> Is it possible to write the USB image to a disk partition and boot it with GRUB/whatever?
[22:39] <elliott> Installation CD, that is.
[22:39] <Gartral> GeekSquid, LOL! I don't recognize 70% of those flags
[22:39] <mongy> ccvp,  sudo add-apt-repository whatever
[22:39] <cheater99> hi!
[22:39] <DasEi> ccvp: I haven't followed what you are up to, but seems you need soft not found in standard repo, and decided to use a -slightly riski- foreign one
[22:39] <Gartral> GeekSquid, like... aperfmperf
[22:40] <nowres> Hello!
[22:40] <cheater99> i want to simulate a microphone in ubuntu, how can i do this?
[22:40] <cheater99> i'm sure there's a way
[22:40] <Gartral> cheater99, in cli or gui?
[22:40] <cheater99> i just want to play back an audio file, and have an app that needs a microphone pick that up
[22:40] <cheater99> the app is gui (it's actually under wine, but that's no problem, wine puts the mic through OK, i know it works for everyone)
[22:40] <Gartral> cheater99, look into aplay and sox
[22:40] <cheater99> let me try that
[22:41] <GeekSquid> Gartral: and that is coming from the Chrome kernel, so we have a bunch of undocumented unrecognized and otherwise un-understandable information that will take a while to sort
[22:41] <DasEi> cheater99: mic could create a dummy dev for; audacity does such recordings
[22:41] <itaylor57> Gartral: they arent flags just optiopns
[22:41] <elliott> Nobody's insane enough to do what I want to do, I guess :)
[22:41] <cheater99> DasEi: i didn't understand that, say again?
[22:41] <Gartral> itaylor57, they're actually CPU flags from Chromeos kernel
[22:42] <itaylor57> okie dokelie
[22:42] <nowres> my graphics card runs great on lucid. when i upgraded to maverick it no more works but in the live cd it works. it's an intel i915. before login screen shows the screen flashes many times then stay blank. could it be caused by gdm? any idea?
[22:42] <DasEi> cheater99: audacity records, without need for a dummy-mic" what passes through soundcard. If you need a dummy, could set up one in /dev.
[22:42] <cheater99> Gartral: i don't think sox is what i mean
[22:42] <cheater99> DasEi: how would i set it up?
[22:43] <ccvp> mongy what is ppa:jcfp/ppa
[22:43] <ccvp> ?
[22:43] <trojanking> hello all, i heard its possible to install ubuntu on a USB
[22:43] <mongy> ccvp, for sabnzb
[22:43] <ccvp> i added the first one, and it gave me some hahsh in return
[22:43] <DasEi> cheater99: /dev/mic for example
[22:43] <ccvp> hash
[22:43] <cheater99> DasEi: yes. how?
[22:43] <DasEi> cheater99: sudo touch /dev/mic
[22:44] <trojanking> hello all, i heard its possible to install ubuntu on a USB
[22:44] <GeekSquid> Gartral: same reason I didn't buy the G1 and waited for the MOTO Droid
[22:44] <mongy> ccvp, its the backend.  lottanzb is not the program all on its own, its just a frontend
[22:44] <cheater99> DasEi: and then, how do i put sound in it?
[22:44] <carson> I have an old computer, 60 MB of RAM, single core 551 Mhz proccessor, what should i put on it, Xubuntu, Puppy Linux or DSL?
[22:44] <ccvp> ok i did those two commands for adding them, so now i can just sudo apt-get install lottanzb, and it'll install the .6?
[22:44] <DasEi> cheater99: you can just point to it, as it's a dummy, it won't work
[22:44] <Gartral> GeekSquid, lol, same here.. but i'll never turn down a free laptop, even if it's a bit strange!
[22:44] <GeekSquid> carson: puppy might work, DSL is the best bet
[22:44] <DasEi> !usb | trojanking
[22:44] <mongy> ccvp, sudo apt-get update first
[22:45] <GeekSquid> Gartral: FREE? how did you pull that one off?
[22:45] <Justus> hi, I have switched the complete hardware of a system (I put the hdd into another computer) how can I update all drivers, so ubuntu will soft reinstall? is this possible?
[22:45] <cheater99> DasEi: but i need to put sound into it.
[22:45] <carson> GeekSquid: Could DSL still download somewhat newer software? does it have software center?
[22:45] <DasEi> carson: dsl,or least 128 MB ram
[22:45] <mongy> ccvp, then sudo apt-get install lottanzb sabnzbdplus
[22:45] <elliott> Nobody? :)
[22:45] <DasEi> elliott: ask again ?
[22:45] <Gartral> GeekSquid, they're TESTBED machine from the chromeos PILOT program! you sign up, and if selected, Google Ships you a computer... i'll pm you da link too sign up
[22:46] <elliott> DasEi: Is it possible to write the Live CD or USB image to a disk partition and boot it with GRUB or similar?
[22:46] <GeekSquid> Gartral: I love you!
[22:46] <elliott> I don't have an optical drive or a convenient USB stick.
[22:46] <bustedup277> ilovefairuz: I tried your thing, I could trial Ubuntu, but whenever I tried to install, I selected my language, then pressed forward. Then the next thing came up, I read it, and presssed forward, then it said it was loading. I walked away for about 15 minutes then came back and it still had the loading circle. Is this normal and no? What is wrong?
[22:46] <elliott> Furthermore, is it possible to then install to the same media I booted the Live CD off?
[22:46] <DasEi> elliot: yes, can make grub2 boot an iso
[22:46] <Gartral> GeekSquid, it's not garenteed you'll get one!
[22:46] <elliott> DasEi: no, that requires special support in the initramfs IIRC
[22:46] <GeekSquid> Gartral: I know, but it is worth a try
[22:46] <ccvp> im about to pop in a 2TB WD Caviar Green to a sata port on my pc, will ubuntu be able to utilize
[22:46] <elliott> I'm fine writing an .img to a partition etc.
[22:46] <ccvp> 2TB drive/sata out of the box?
[22:47] <elliott> ccvp: yes.
[22:47] <elliott> ccvp: make sure to turn it off first :-P
[22:47] <nibalizer> is it possible to install ubuntu desktop w/o installing X/gnome?
[22:47] <ccvp> i just tried putting it in just now
[22:47] <elliott> nibalizer: alternate install CD
[22:47] <ccvp> when my pc was in, and i heard a pop/shock sound, electrical
[22:47] <elliott> ccvp: erm not on the machine you are talking on, right?
[22:47] <ccvp> now the pc doesnt work
[22:47] <nibalizer> elliott: i'll check that out
[22:47] <DasEi> elliott: so I didn't get your question
[22:47] <mongy> !minimal | nibalizer
[22:47] <itaylor57> is it possible to install x windows without
[22:47] <elliott> DasEi: but I just said it a few lines up :)
[22:47] <itaylor57> xll
[22:47] <cheater99> elliott: you would need to write the img to the drive, load the kernel, set up a ram fs, simply copy files over, then continue booting from that. no idea about the details.
[22:47] <itaylor57> LOL
[22:47] <elliott> ccvp: um did you just plug a sata drive in to a live pc
[22:48] <ccvp> yep
[22:48] <ccvp> j/k - lulz
[22:48] <elliott> ccvp: i was getting worried there.
[22:48] <elliott> what has humanity come to :)
[22:48] <elliott> cheater99: well. yeah. it's the details that are difficult :P
[22:48] <qtrip> quit
[22:48] <ccvp> my main PC has front loading trays/docks for sata drives
[22:48] <ccvp> gateway FX 6480-15E, it would be nice if sata evolves to hot swappable
[22:49] <DasEi> ccvp: sata is hotplug already
[22:49] <trojanking> please after installing ubuntu on usb can i run it side by side with my mac OS... i mean can i switch to another OS already installed in hard drive without switching off my pc?
[22:49] <ccvp> oh, so u cant do it
[22:49] <ccvp> mobo wise
[22:49] <ccvp> but if it has trays, thats fine?
[22:49] <cheater99> elliott: my guess is try it first with a simple fat32 partition: make a usb stick that creates an empty fat32 partition, copies over to the fat32. you can then check if that works at all. then try to make it boot. then doing ramfs shouldn't be a big step from that.
[22:49] <ccvp> cant do it live to the mobo sata port etc...?
[22:49] <elliott> cheater99: I have no USB stick.
[22:49] <cheater99> elliott: cd then
[22:50] <DasEi> trojanking: no, that you would use a vm for
[22:50] <dansan> ilovefairuz: thank you.  However, mm.cfg is useless if the integrity of the flash binary has been compromised it's self.  I think I would be more comfortable trusting a convicted criminal with my security.
[22:50] <Gartral> trojanking, yea, look into xen computing
[22:50] <elliott> cheater99: I have no optical drive.
[22:50] <elliott> cheater99: Why do you think I want to boot the Live CD from a partition?
[22:50] <ccvp> brb, gotta transfer drive
[22:50] <elliott> OK, there's probably an unused USB stick _somewhere_, but I'd rather do this than dig around to find it ...
[22:50] <cheater99> elliott: why not just boot a linux from the partition?
[22:50] <trojanking> ok thanks
[22:50] <cheater99> elliott: can you take out the hdd?
[22:50] <Gartral> !xen | trojanking
[22:50] <elliott> cheater99: that's what I want to do, I want to boot the ubuntu livecd from the partition
[22:50] <elliott> and no, I can't
[22:50] <elliott> laptop
[22:50] <elliott> not easily accessible HD
[22:50] <cheater99> elliott: you can take out laptop hdds
[22:50] <elliott> i'd really rather not
[22:51] <cheater99> elliott: how are you going to put data on the hdd if you have no optical drive?
[22:51] <cheater99> and no usb stick?
[22:51] <elliott> cheater99: um I am sort of connected to the internet?
[22:51] <Gartral> elliott, does it have usb?
[22:51] <elliott> Gartral: yes. but i don't have a usb drive handy.
[22:51] <cheater99> elliott: what OS do you have?
[22:51] <elliott> hm wait this might work
[22:51]  * elliott goes off to try
[22:51] <Gartral> elliott, ahhah, hmm.. sd card?
[22:51] <elliott> Gartral: I think there's one of those ... somewhere :-D
[22:52] <elliott> I doubt it can boot from it
[22:52] <elliott> anyway, I have an idea
[22:52] <cheater99> elliott: you could resize the partition with the OS that's on it already, then rip the image of a working ubuntu partition from somewhere and put it on your system
[22:52] <Rave1> elliott, http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[22:52] <cheater99> elliott: then set it to bootable.
[22:52] <cheater99> elliott: make sure the grub on the donor system was installed on the partition and not in the mbr.
[22:52] <elliott> Rave1: yep that is basically what i was going to try.
[22:52] <elliott> cheater99: I'm just going to copy the LiveCD files
[22:52] <elliott> and then use GRUB to boot kernel/initrd
[22:53] <elliott> the only problem is-
[22:53] <Rave1> elliott,  ok
[22:53] <elliott> how can I force Ubuntu to load all the installation files into RAM?
[22:53] <elliott> Since I need to install it to the _same_ partition.
[22:53] <cheater99> don't
[22:53] <itaylor57> it wont work
[22:53] <elliott> IIRC I've done this before but I forget how.
[22:53] <cheater99> elliott: have two partitions
[22:53] <cheater99> elliott: you can later remove the livecd partition
[22:53] <elliott> I suppose I can do without 600 megs if I have to :)
[22:54] <elliott> I'll get to partitioning.
[22:54] <Gartral> elliott, you reaaly need a lice disk too boot from, you have no external drives what so ever?
[22:54] <cheater99> you can resize partitions using gparted or something like that under linux
[22:54]  * cheater99 forgot the actual command
[22:54] <elliott> Gartral: I probably do, but they're all either used or somewhere I don't know where.
[22:54] <elliott> Besides, this sounds like fun.
[22:54] <elliott> I've done similar things before, I know what I'm doing.
[22:54] <cheater99> elliott: you can use say partition magic under windows to resize your existing partition without losing data.