[06:11] <Kilos> morning africa
[08:08] <Kilos> hi ongolaBoy  elacheche
[08:10] <elacheche> o/ Kilos
[08:18] <elacheche> Kilos,
[08:18] <elacheche> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue418#A_new_timeslot_for_the_Membership_Board_meetings
[08:18] <Kilos> ive read the letter already elacheche
[08:19] <elacheche> So now it's officially PUBLIC :) Congrats Kilos :)
[08:19] <Kilos> you did it not me
[08:19] <Kilos> hehe
[08:21] <elacheche> It was your idea
[08:22] <Kilos> nono im innocent
[08:34] <elacheche> hahahahahahah
[10:54] <hjjh> hello
[10:54] <Kilos> hi hjjh
[10:55] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu africa
[10:56] <Kilos> where are you ?
[10:59] <hjjh> thanks
[11:00] <hjjh> am here
[11:00] <Kilos> lol
[11:00] <hjjh> am from sudan
[11:00] <hjjh> and you?
[11:00] <Kilos> i meant what country hehe
[11:00] <Kilos> im in south africa
[11:01] <hjjh> nice to talk 2 u body
[11:01] <hjjh> hw u doing?
[11:01] <Kilos> im glad you found us, have you read http://slexy.org/view/s2aEqtz90N
[11:02] <Kilos> im good ty, trying to get all of africas ubuntu and linux users here
[11:02] <hjjh> not yet .. its mandatory ?!
[11:02] <Kilos> no anyone can join us
[11:03] <Kilos> we have guys from tunisia right down to cape town here
[11:03] <hjjh> ok this great idea :)
[11:03] <hjjh> i will help you
[11:03] <hjjh> do achieve that
[11:03] <Kilos> it will give all the countries a home channel to chat and get and give help on
[11:03] <Kilos> ty i need help
[11:04] <hjjh> great great
[11:04] <Kilos> have you seen our site?
[11:04] <Kilos> http://ubuntu-africa.info
[11:04] <hjjh> no
[11:05] <hjjh> woow its nice
[11:06] <hjjh> supported by canonical as i see?!
[11:06] <Kilos> yeah i like it and no one has faulted it yet
[11:06] <Kilos> yes its official
[11:07] <hjjh> glad to see africa in there interest :)
[11:07] <hjjh> so you are the responsible from this irc channel ?
[11:08] <Kilos> yes, the problem is that some users dont have local channels, so you try do things on their own, here we can all help each other
[11:08] <Kilos> yes
[11:08] <Kilos> and the south african team built the site
[11:09] <hjjh> v.good job
[11:09] <hjjh> really good work
[11:09] <Kilos> yes they did a great job i think
[11:09] <hjjh> fact am using Linux since 2007
[11:09] <Kilos> still a couple of things to tweak when the guys have time
[11:10] <hjjh> and ubuntu since 2009
[11:10] <Kilos> how did you find this channel?
[11:10] <Kilos> ah same as me then
[11:10] <Kilos> make this channel a favourite by you
[11:11] <hjjh> this my first time talking here mean this channel
[11:11] <hjjh> its sound great
[11:11] <Kilos> how did you find it
[11:11] <Kilos> we need to advertise
[11:12] <hjjh> yes sure I can do any thing to help :)
[11:13] <Kilos> do you guys have a LoCo there?
[11:14] <hjjh> not sure
[11:14] <Kilos> these have joined so far https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams
[11:14] <Kilos> you are the first from sudan
[11:16] <hjjh> will invite my friend linux users
[11:16] <Kilos> good ty
[11:16] <Kilos> and if you know any in surrounding countries get them to join too
[11:17] <hjjh> yeah i know some people from Ethiopia
[11:18] <Kilos> oh thats good tsega has joined us as well
[11:18] <Kilos> invite them all
[11:20] <hjjh> i will dear
[11:20] <Kilos> y
[11:20] <Kilos> ty
[11:21] <hjjh> my real name is mohamed btw
[11:21] <Kilos> mine is miles
[11:22] <hjjh> this is my phone number +249913309799
[11:23] <hjjh> also you can inter it in facebook search u get my account there
[11:23] <Kilos> i dont use facebook often, i like IRC
[11:24] <Kilos> do you have a launchpad account
[11:24] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa
[11:24] <hjjh> sure
[11:24] <Kilos> join the africa team there
[11:26] <hjjh> can we creat sudan loco
[11:26] <Kilos> yes we will help you do it, get all your ubuntu members together
[11:27] <Kilos> QA  google how to create an ubuntu LoCo
[11:27] <QA> Kilos: "Home | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal" http://loco.ubuntu.com/ :: "Setting up a LoCo Team | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal" http://loco.ubuntu.com/about-loco/setup/ :: "LoCoTeamHowto - Ubuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto :: "LoCoTeams - Ubuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams :: "Ubuntu LoCo Teams List" http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ :: "LoCoFAQ - Ubuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoFAQ :: "LoCoCouncil -…
[12:01] <mohamed_linux> hello
[12:01] <Kilos> hi mohamed_linux
[12:03] <mohamed_linux> i joined on launchpad now
[12:03] <mohamed_linux> ubuntu africa team on launchpad
[12:03] <Kilos> good
[12:04] <mohamed_linux> but it say mohamed Pending approval
[12:04] <Kilos> wait ill sort that
[12:04] <mohamed_linux> how long will wait
[12:04] <Kilos> 2 mins
[12:04] <mohamed_linux> ty
[12:04] <mohamed_linux> :D
[12:05] <Kilos> done
[12:18] <pieter2627> hi mohamed_linux, and welcome
[12:19] <Kilos> hi pieter2627  sorry dint see you login
[12:20] <mohamed_linux> hi pieter2627
[12:20] <mohamed_linux> thank you my dear
[12:20] <pieter2627> uh, i've been on all day - greeted all earlier as i remember
[12:20] <Kilos> making a Hackergotchi
[12:20] <Kilos> actually geting my daughter to do it for me
[12:20] <pieter2627> a Hackergotchi?
[12:20] <Kilos> haha
[12:21] <Kilos> QA  google what is a Hackergotchi
[12:21] <QA> Kilos: "Hackergotchi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackergotchi :: "Nicu's How-to - Draw a hackergotchi (or just people heads) with ..." http://howto.nicubunu.ro/inkscape_face_draw/ :: "Hackergotchi - FedoraProject" https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Hackergotchi :: "Linux.com :: Creating hackergotchis using the GIMP" http://archive09.linux.com/articles/61131 :: "Hackergotchi Heads! - Planet G…
[12:21] <mohamed_linux> hhhhh
[12:21] <Kilos> new name for profile pic
[12:22] <pieter2627> oh
[12:27] <pieter2627> Kilos: are you still looking for some translators?
[12:28] <Kilos> oh my
[12:29] <Kilos> gimme 5 mins pieter2627
[12:29] <Kilos> ubuntu always is i think
[12:29] <pieter2627> i mean for the site and to get africa peeps
[12:30] <Kilos> oh
[12:30] <Kilos> in what languages
[12:31] <pieter2627> Arabic is a major lang in north africa as far as i remember
[12:32] <Kilos> you know arabic pieter2627  ?
[12:33] <pieter2627> haha no, but someone from sudan might ;)
[12:33] <Mohamed_linux1> hhhhhhh
[12:33] <Kilos> aha
[12:33] <Mohamed_linux1> good one :D
[12:33] <pieter2627> although i do know the meaning of a few arabic words
[12:33] <Mohamed_linux1> like what?
[12:34] <Kilos> well once we have all the countires here we will have all the languages
[12:34] <Kilos> so everyone that undersands can help
[12:34] <pieter2627> Mohamed_linux1: sudan means prince, king or ruler right?
[12:35] <Mohamed_linux1> no ... it means black face :D
[12:35] <pieter2627> ah no... haha
[12:35] <Mohamed_linux1> hahahahah
[12:37] <Mohamed_linux1> but we like america have black white orange not matter we are all humans :)
[12:37] <pieter2627> Mohamed_linux1: yip
[12:38] <Mohamed_linux1> where are from pieter2627?
[12:38] <pieter2627> south africa
[12:39] <Mohamed_linux1> kilos also frm there btw
[12:40] <pieter2627> yes about 15kms from me
[12:42] <pieter2627> a sultan was arabic for king...
[12:42] <Kilos> sultans of swing
[12:43] <Kilos> dire straits
[12:43] <pieter2627> i missed you somewhere kilos
[12:43] <Mohamed_linux> me 2
[12:43]  * pieter2627 thought he was pulling my leg
[12:44] <Kilos> QA  google sultans of swing
[12:44] <QA> Kilos: "The Sultans of Swing | Jerry Bennett Entertainment" http://thesultans.com/ :: "Sultans of Swing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultans_of_Swing :: "Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing (Alchemy Live) - YouTube" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pa9x9fZBtY :: "Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing (Lyrics) - YouTube" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ4px9Ri0Y0 :: "Sultans Of Swing Lyrics - Dire St…
[12:44] <Mohamed_linux>  QA  google sudan
[12:44] <QA> Mohamed_linux: "Sudan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudan :: "Sudan - The World Factbook" https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/su.html :: "Sudan country profile - Overview - BBC News" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14094995 :: "Sudan.Net: Your Complete Guide on Sudan" http://www.sudan.net/ :: "Sudan News - Breaking World Sudan News - The New York Times" …
[12:44] <Mohamed_linux> hhhhhhhhhh
[12:44] <Kilos> i think they meant at the time they are the kings of swinf
[12:44] <Kilos> swing
[12:47] <Mohamed_linux> ?
[12:47] <Kilos> wbb guys gotta go get stuff outside
[12:48] <Mohamed_linux> ok
[12:53] <Mohamed_linux> back
[12:54] <Kilos> yeah
[12:55] <Mohamed_linux> what version of ubuntu you use ..am using 14.04 LTS
[12:55] <elacheche> Hey again!
[12:55] <elacheche> Salam Mohamed_linux :)
[12:55] <elacheche> Greetings from Tunisia :)
[12:56] <Kilos> 14.04 kde
[12:58] <elacheche> Kilos, 2or 3 months ago I forced a coworker to use Ubuntu as a Dev OS.. She hated me for that :) :D :D
[12:58] <Kilos> lol
[12:58] <elacheche> Last Friday she told me that she'll install Ubuntu on here personal laptop because it's better :) :D
[12:59] <Kilos> they all wake up sooner or later
[12:59] <Kilos> some are just stubborn
[13:01] <elacheche> An other one was using Ubuntu for 2 years now.. She was complaining all the time, it's not good, it's not stable, it crachs, it bugs, etc, etc.. Last week she switched back to Win to test one of our applications, she came to me telling me that Ubuntu is far far better than WinBugs x) :D
[13:01] <elacheche> Salam Mohamed_linux, Greetings from Tunisia :)
[13:01] <Mohamed_linux> o 3leekom al slaaaaam :)
[13:02] <Mohamed_linux> nice to talk to you my dear
[13:03] <elacheche> :)
[13:04] <Mohamed_linux> Tunisia is beautiful :D
[13:04] <elacheche> Kilos, Hahaha.. My coworker was here and reading what I wrote about here :D
[13:05] <Mohamed_linux> what ubuntu you used ...mine is 14.04 LTS ??!!
[13:05] <Kilos> hahaha tell her she can install ubuntu and enjoy
[13:06] <Kilos> mine is kubuntu 14.04 LTS
[13:06] <elacheche> I managed to convert almost all WinBugs users here at work, there is only 3 persons who resisted, 2 are Devs, and the 3rd HR, and am preparing a Xubuntu session for the HR right now, hope that she accept it :D
[13:06] <elacheche> Mohamed_linux, I use many versions/derivatives of ubuntu, why you're asking?
[13:08] <Mohamed_linux> to share info body
[13:09] <elacheche> Ah! OK :) I thought that you have issues :D
[13:09] <Mohamed_linux> looool
[13:10] <Mohamed_linux> yes i have ;)
[13:10] <Mohamed_linux> but tell me first
[13:10] <Kilos> elacheche  you can tell Mohamed_linux  what he needs to do to form a LoCo
[13:10] <Mohamed_linux> what type of technology you interest
[13:10] <elacheche> Mohamed_linux, for my OWN use I install Ubuntu using the minimal ISO, it install only the CORE, no additional apps, no GUI, it's like a server.. Then I install Xorg, and finish by installing my favorite DE and apps :)
[13:12] <Mohamed_linux> great, i've such tut when i convert my linux box to voip server
[13:12] <Mohamed_linux> bast 2 years a go
[13:12] <Mohamed_linux> :)
[13:12] <Mohamed_linux> did you hear abot asterisk server
[13:12] <Mohamed_linux> QA google asterisk
[13:12] <QA> Mohamed_linux: "Asterisk" http://www.asterisk.org/ :: "Asterisk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterisk :: "Asterisk (PBX) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterisk_(PBX) :: "Asterisk | Asterisk Phone System | Digium" http://www.digium.com/en/products/asterisk :: "Home page :: The Official Website for Asterisk Knee Protection ..." https://www.asterisk.com/ ::…
[13:14] <elacheche> Yeah Mohamed_linux
[13:15] <elacheche> Mohamed_linux, if you wanna start a LoCo Team you should read this → https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto
[13:16] <Mohamed_linux> so I need to know from all of you which technology you are involve or takes much time study or expert on it
[13:17] <Mohamed_linux> to have common interest between us
[13:20] <elacheche> Mohamed_linux, I'm a SysAdmin.. I usually work on everything :) :D And interessted by almost everything :)
[13:22] <Mohamed_linux> oooh glad to hear that
[13:22] <Mohamed_linux> :)
[13:23] <Mohamed_linux> what about you kilos?
[13:23] <Kilos> i chat on irc
[13:23] <Mohamed_linux> what is your interest?
[13:23] <Kilos> i repair pcs for school kids in the area
[13:24] <Mohamed_linux> cool :D
[13:24] <Kilos> this is me https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos
[13:26] <elacheche> And this is me https://wiki.ubuntu.com/elacheche
[13:29] <Kilos> see im mixed up with the clever peeps here
[13:29] <Mohamed_linux> hhhhhhh
[13:30] <elacheche> Stop it Kilos.. you're the clever one here :) :D You started this project :)
[13:31] <elacheche> I was thinking about grouping ARABS in one LoCo, never thought that I can do it for AFRICANS! You did it :)
[13:31] <Kilos> na that wasnt clever man, that was just a need to do something for ubuntu in whatever way i could
[13:32] <Kilos> but this is working out fine imo
[13:32] <Kilos> actually Mohamed_linux  you didnt tell me how you found this channel
[13:34] <Mohamed_linux> first its great idea to have channel exist
[13:35] <Mohamed_linux> you are nice people :-D
[13:36] <Mohamed_linux> for real :)
[13:36] <Kilos> yes all friendly here
[13:36] <Kilos> no fighting
[13:36] <Mohamed_linux> ;)
[13:36] <Kilos> teamwork is the way to go ahead
[13:37] <Mohamed_linux> i faced problem to join another channel called #metasploit
[13:38] <Mohamed_linux> any help dears
[13:38] <Kilos> what problem im in there
[13:39] <Mohamed_linux> refuse to register nickname
[13:40] <Mohamed_linux> Cannot join #metasploit: Registration is required.
[13:40] <Mohamed_linux> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[13:40] <Kilos> oh you need to register your nick first
[13:40] <Mohamed_linux> how to do that
[13:41] <Kilos>   /msg nickserv register email password i think it is
[13:41] <Mohamed_linux> can i use gmail ?
[13:41] <Kilos> yes you enter your email address then the password
[13:42] <Mohamed_linux> what password?
[13:42] <Mohamed_linux> any or gmail?
[13:42] <Kilos> freenode password
[13:42] <Mohamed_linux> ahaaaaaaa
[13:42] <Kilos> elacheche  help here man i forget
[13:42] <Mohamed_linux> am stupid :)
[13:44] <Kilos> you can do /nickserv help
[13:45] <Mohamed_linux> ok thanks
[14:39] <andrewlsd> Hi Kilos, methinks the "AfricanTeams" page should include links to the loco page
[14:39] <andrewlsd> for each company
[14:39] <andrewlsd> s/company/country/
[14:39] <Kilos> add it elacheche
[14:42] <Kilos> oh sorry andrewlsd  i thought that was from cheche
[14:42] <andrewlsd> ^ I see there is a link to the full ubuntu loco list, but I ended up there by accident.
[14:43] <andrewlsd> so mebbe each country listing could be a shortcut (where applicable) to that country's own loco page.
[14:43] <andrewlsd> no worries Kilos
[14:43] <Kilos> i get kinda deurmekaar at times
[14:44] <Kilos> hehe
[14:44] <Kilos> can you still not post on trello?
[14:44] <Kilos> lemme go see
[14:45] <andrewlsd> I couldnt post on trello earlier.
[14:45] <Kilos> maybe i can add you
[14:46] <Kilos> i dont see you there
[14:47] <andrewlsd> Thanks.
[15:07]  * elacheche is back
[15:07] <elacheche> what?
[15:07] <Kilos> lol
[15:07] <elacheche> I'm too lazy and busy to read an understand the discussion sorry :D
[15:07] <elacheche> A summary please :D
[15:07] <Kilos> we use trello to do work
[15:08] <Kilos> you may look https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco
[15:08] <elacheche> trello is not FOSS :p
[15:09] <Kilos> there is another one being tried out that is, but we needed something at the time
[15:09] <Kilos> trllo works well though for groups to work together
[15:10] <Kilos> you dont have a group of buntu peeps helping you
[15:10] <Kilos> i use what works for me, i didnt even check the FOSS thing
[15:11] <Kilos> haha i got a gotchi thing elacheche
[15:11] <Kilos> had to ask my daughter to do it
[15:12] <elacheche> hahaha Kilos :D Awesome :D
[15:12] <elacheche> Trello is just a kanban board :D there is many foss kanban boards outthere :p
[15:13] <Kilos> man dont fight me
[15:13] <Kilos> ill cry
[15:19] <elacheche> Can't fight you :) I respect you :)
[15:19] <Kilos> yay
[15:19] <Kilos> ty
[15:19] <elacheche> I really do :) :)
[15:19] <Kilos> thats good to know ty
[15:20] <elacheche> Do you think that we should create an announcement email to inform our LOCOs and the news team that we exist?
[15:20] <elacheche> I mean like an official announcement :) So maybe someone else want to join us :)
[15:20] <Kilos> yes but dont send till the site is fixed
[15:21] <Kilos> something is wrong with the https link
[15:21] <Kilos> it works with http though
[15:21] <Kilos> some certificate prob
[15:28] <mohamed_linuxat> back
[15:28] <Kilos> wb mohamed_linuxat
[15:29] <mohamed_linuxat> kilos :)
[15:29] <Kilos> :)
[15:29] <Kilos> i dont often do smileys
[15:29] <mohamed_linuxat> I did it ..join metasploit IRC ..pain in the ass :D
[15:29] <Kilos> well done
[15:30] <mohamed_linuxat> why?!
[15:30] <Kilos> you should also get a mask for your ip address
[15:30] <mohamed_linuxat> how that
[15:30] <Kilos> i type slow with 2 fingers and have to look where the keys are  so smileys are added effort
[15:31] <mohamed_linuxat> LOOOOOOOOOL
[15:31] <Kilos> you /j #freenode and ask staff to please give you a cloak
[15:31] <Kilos> then your ip doesnt show
[15:32] <Kilos> oh my the kenya guys went off, server probs maybe
[15:32] <mohamed_linuxat> ok
[15:34] <Kilos> wb stickyboy  what did you break
[15:34] <Kilos> wb kenju254
[15:55] <stickyboy> Kilos: Not sure... all of the Nairobi peeps dropped heheh.
[15:55] <Kilos> yeah
[15:55] <Kilos> we got a new joiner from sudan,
[15:56] <Kilos> so fix things man, dont break them hehe
[15:57] <stickyboy> Kilos: Amazing! Sudan!
[15:57] <stickyboy> I tried to get a visa there last week.
[15:57] <mohamed_linuxat> INTERNET very slow here
[15:57] <Kilos> mohamed_linuxat  say hi to stickyboy  from nairobi
[15:58] <mohamed_linuxat> hi stickyboy
[15:58] <mohamed_linuxat> nice to meet you
[15:59] <mohamed_linuxat> whois from sudan?
[16:00] <Kilos> didnt you say you were mohamed_linuxat  ?
[16:01] <mohamed_linuxat> hahahahah
[16:01] <mohamed_linuxat> yes i am mohamed
[16:02] <stickyboy> mohamed_linuxat: I'm in Nairobi
[16:02] <stickyboy> We have a strong GNU/Linux community here.
[16:03] <mohamed_linuxat> stickyboy: glad to hear from you :)
[16:03] <mohamed_linuxat> we are neighbors :D
[16:04] <stickyboy> mohamed_linuxat: Indeed :D
[16:04] <stickyboy> I'm American, and getting a visa to Sudan is complicated!
[16:05] <stickyboy> I wanted to come eat feta and drink coffee.
[16:05] <stickyboy> :(
[16:05] <mohamed_linuxat> looooooooool
[16:05] <Kilos> feta cheese?
[16:05] <stickyboy> Kilos: yah :D
[16:05] <mohamed_linuxat> yes sure you can
[16:05] <stickyboy> They have nice Feta in Sudan. :P
[16:05] <mohamed_linuxat> feta hhhhhhhh
[16:05] <Kilos> i love that stuff, send some here
[16:05] <Kilos> email will do
[16:05] <mohamed_linuxat> :D
[16:06] <stickyboy> My girlfriend is in Sudan right now for work, and she says the cheese is amazing. The ice cream, the coffee, etc.
[16:06] <stickyboy> I love food...
[16:06] <mohamed_linuxat> yes we have nice tradition food
[16:07] <mohamed_linuxat> tell me when you will departure
[16:07] <mohamed_linuxat> I will be there for you on Airport
[16:08] <stickyboy> mohamed_linuxat: Yes! Amazing haha.
[16:08] <stickyboy> I will let you know if I get a visa. :P
[16:08] <mohamed_linuxat> acually I work in Khartoum Airport BTW :)
[16:08] <Kilos> visas are always such a hassle
[16:08] <stickyboy> mohamed_linuxat: Oh wow, very convenient. ahhahaa
[16:09] <Kilos> lol go in a suit case stickyboy
[16:09] <mohamed_linuxat> oh what is the problem regarding your visa
[16:10] <mohamed_linuxat> I can help I work closely with police department may can help you
[16:10] <mohamed_linuxat> to get quick visa to sudan
[16:10] <stickyboy> mohamed_linuxat: They said I needed to apply from the Ministry of Foreign affairs.
[16:10] <stickyboy> In Khartoum (not here in Nairobi).
[16:11] <mohamed_linuxat> I see
[16:11] <mohamed_linuxat> they say whay?
[16:11] <mohamed_linuxat> this is not how it usually works
[16:16] <stickyboy> mohamed_linuxat: I think it's because I'm American. :\
[16:16] <stickyboy> Kenyans get a visa on arrival.
[16:19] <stickyboy> Not sue
[16:19] <stickyboy> s/sue/sure/
[17:17] <Kilos> hi Pathfinder
[17:18] <Pathfinder> Kilos: Hey man :)
[17:18] <Pathfinder> How is the going
[17:18] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[17:19] <Kilos> a guy from sudan joined us today
[18:13] <Pathfinder> Kilos: Been good but extremely overwhelmed by work and school
[18:14] <Kilos> everyone has the same problem.
[18:22] <Pathfinder> Kilos: Hahaha..yeah...who's the new guy?
[18:23] <Kilos> mohamed_linuxat
[18:23] <Kilos> from the airport in sudan
[19:09] <elacheche_anis> o/
[19:09] <Kilos> follow our meeting in za elacheche_anis
[19:11] <elacheche_anis> OK kenju254
[19:11] <elacheche_anis> ok Kilos
[22:02] <Mohamed_linux> hi
[22:03] <Mohamed_linux> any body here!!
[22:03] <melodie> hi Mohamed_linux
[22:03] <melodie> what's up?
[22:04] <Mohamed_linux> every thing is goog on the hood:)
[22:04] <melodie> wonderful!
[22:04] <melodie> so what's next?
[22:04] <Mohamed_linux> melodie aflaaam
[22:05] <melodie> ?
[22:05] <Mohamed_linux> :)
[22:05] <melodie> sorry no idea what you mean?
[22:05] <Mohamed_linux> where are you from
[22:05] <melodie> south France (west) and you?
[22:06] <Mohamed_linux> sudan middle of sudan ;)
[22:07] <melodie> that's the center of Africa? Or do I mistake?
[22:07] <Mohamed_linux> little above
[22:08] <melodie> ok
[22:08] <melodie> looking at the Africa map now, it seems I was mistaking somehow
[22:08] <Mohamed_linux> what are you doing
[22:08] <Mohamed_linux> now dayies
[22:09] <Mohamed_linux> dayues
[22:09] <Mohamed_linux> daytimes I MEAN
[22:10] <melodie> I tried to raise in knownlegde and in production, allow me to show you part of it
[22:10] <melodie> http://linuxvillage.org/en/downloads/
[22:11] <melodie> and you can find a screeshot (or more than one) at the home page: http://linuxvillage.org/en/
[22:11] <Mohamed_linux> woooow this cooool stuff
[22:11] <Mohamed_linux> you are good man
[22:12] <melodie> woman :D
[22:12] <melodie> please
[22:13] <melodie> or girl... you can say either or
[22:13] <Mohamed_linux> loool sorry
[22:14] <Mohamed_linux> its nice work for real
[22:14] <Mohamed_linux> I will download the image and test it on vmware
[22:15] <Mohamed_linux> how old are you girl ?
[22:16] <melodie> 56 and you?
[22:16] <Mohamed_linux> 27
[22:16] <melodie> nice!
[22:17] <melodie> lucky you, you started long before me! :D
[22:17] <Mohamed_linux> can i add you to my list
[22:17] <melodie> which version do you want to test? a small one? a large one? x86_64? i386?
[22:17] <melodie> which list?
[22:18] <Mohamed_linux> friends list
[22:18] <Mohamed_linux> 64 bit version
[22:20] <melodie> I use Xchat and have favorite chans, you can add me to all friend lists you want!
[22:20] <melodie> and small or large version?
[22:20] <melodie> and you, what do you do? daily ? :)
[22:21] <Mohamed_linux> I devolop routers voip server using linux
[22:21] <Mohamed_linux> for small and meduim size network
[22:22] <Mohamed_linux> also shell scripting
[22:22] <melodie> shell scripting is nice
[22:22] <melodie> the rest too :)
[22:23] <Mohamed_linux> yeah its cool
[22:23] <melodie> here in France I can't find voip modem/routers, I wanted to buy one to get rid of the one from my ISP, but no one sells them
[22:25] <Mohamed_linux> you can do it its easy if you have old PC
[22:25] <melodie> aha
[22:25] <melodie> I do have old pc's
[22:25] <melodie> even several
[22:25] <Mohamed_linux> many topics over the net rich content :?(
[22:25] <melodie> yes there are
[22:26] <melodie> I just never tried
[22:26] <Mohamed_linux> actually most of the work done on the internet
[22:26] <melodie> which distro would you advice me to try for this purpose?
[22:27] <Mohamed_linux> may contribution on defining QoS quality of service policyies and rules
[22:27] <melodie> excuse me: what do you mean when you say "may" ?
[22:27] <melodie> it seems out of context..
[22:28] <Mohamed_linux> to give servers and router involved on the process of call setup and media stream get guality
[22:28] <Mohamed_linux> my :)
[22:28] <Mohamed_linux> my not may
[22:31] <melodie> ok
[22:31] <Mohamed_linux> ok
[22:32] <Mohamed_linux> really you are great person i like your work
[22:32] <melodie> if you need a linux box easy to go and very light, you can use Bento Openbox (it's not supported officially, and it relies fully on the Ubuntu repos)
[22:32] <Mohamed_linux> what is desktop envirment there?
[22:33] <melodie> if you need it to make your own on top of it, it's very easy with Ubuntu Builder (see Kamilion's ppa)
[22:33] <melodie> Openbox + openbox menu + obsession is the environment
[22:33] <melodie> it's very easy to tweak to your liking
[22:33] <melodie> I just need to give a few pointers in a documentation, which I started to write
[22:34] <melodie> the idea is : "less is more" but more it looks like a windows xp, the better
[22:34] <melodie> so there is lxpanel and the classic lxmenu, and also the openbox menu which has a dynamic application menu
[22:35] <melodie> then you want to make it even ligher : possible and even easy!
[22:35] <Mohamed_linux> ok
[22:35] <melodie> I started also to write something about it, last year and it's on the way to be updated now (It's updated in French, I have to port the tutorial to English next)
[22:35] <Mohamed_linux> i will tray it tommorow
[22:36] <melodie> it lacks UEFI : I have to choose a method to bring it inside.
[22:36] <melodie> will you try the small version or the larger one?
[22:36] <Mohamed_linux> whar
[22:36] <Mohamed_linux> what you recommends
[22:37] <melodie> that depends
[22:37] <melodie> well, both?
[22:37] <melodie> one after the other? :)
[22:37] <Mohamed_linux> i will stsa
[22:37] <Mohamed_linux> i will stsa
[22:37] <melodie> ok :)
[22:37] <Mohamed_linux> i will start w
[22:37] <Mohamed_linux> larger
[22:38] <Mohamed_linux> :)
[22:38] <Mohamed_linux> to see the full picture
[22:38] <melodie> :)
[22:38] <melodie> are you used to Ubuntu boxes? Synaptic? Else?
[22:41] <Mohamed_linux> yes
[22:42] <melodie> ok, so you should find it easy enough.
[22:42] <melodie> I will be looking forward to your feedback. :)
[22:43] <Mohamed_linux> yeah sure
[22:43] <Mohamed_linux> I would like to give it tray
[22:44] <Mohamed_linux> if my connection now is so slow to download IOS
[22:44] <Mohamed_linux> no if :(
[22:45] <Mohamed_linux> looool
[22:46] <melodie> do you use wget ?
[22:46] <melodie> to download?
[22:47] <Mohamed_linux> wget, git ..etc
[22:47] <Mohamed_linux> clone also works fine on ubuntu
[22:47] <melodie> some guys for South Africa and North Africa, and others told me in their countries the post office is super bad, and very unreliable. How is it in Sudan?
[22:48] <melodie> I don't know clone (googling "clone" now)
[22:49] <Mohamed_linux> get cloning the web site containing image files like ISO .rar ,gz and so
[22:49] <melodie> clone downloads files?
[22:49] <Mohamed_linux> yes sure its most modern way
[22:50] <Mohamed_linux> used by new software devolpers
[22:50] <melodie> it's not a free open source soft?
[22:50] <Mohamed_linux> totally free
[22:50] <melodie> open source? do you have a link? :)
[22:51] <Mohamed_linux> QA google git clone
[22:51] <QA> Mohamed_linux: "Git - git-clone Documentation" http://git-scm.com/docs/git-clone :: "Git - Getting a Git Repository" https://git-scm.com/book/it/v2/Git-Basics-Getting-a-Git-Repository :: "Setting up a repository - git-clone | Atlassian Git Tutorial" https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/setting-up-a-repository/git-clone/ :: "Clone - Git Reference" http://gitref.org/creating/ :: "Importing a Git repository using the comman…
[22:52] <melodie> Mohamed_linux oh! git-clone ! I get it
[22:52] <Mohamed_linux> QA google git clone github
[22:52] <QA> Mohamed_linux: "Fetching a remote - User Documentation - GitHub Help" https://help.github.com/articles/fetching-a-remote/ :: "Fork A Repo - User Documentation - GitHub Help" https://help.github.com/articles/fork-a-repo/ :: "Which remote URL should I use? - User Documentation - GitHub Help" https://help.github.com/articles/which-remote-url-should-i-use/ :: "Importing a Git repository using the command line ... - GitHub Help"…
[22:52] <Mohamed_linux> loool
[22:52] <melodie> git is one, clone is a non free software, for Windows, and git-clone yet another soft XD
[22:52] <Mohamed_linux> hhhhhhhh that what i meant
[22:52] <melodie> :)
[22:53] <melodie> wget has options
[22:53] <melodie> you know "-c" right?
[22:53] <melodie> do you know "--limit-rate" ?
[22:54] <melodie> saying because in my "young years" I used wget to obtain Debian testing "netinstall" version.
[22:54] <melodie> I had 56kbps (dialup) and wget helping it took one week to get the iso. XD
[22:54] <Mohamed_linux> man wget now ....
[22:55] <melodie> while leaving some access to the web, while downloading. :)
[22:56] <melodie> well about wget, of course it's in Bento, and you will also find lftp which is very convenient, and can be used a ftp client and also with ssh connection : "lftp sftp://login@server:/"
[22:56] <Mohamed_linux>  -c
[22:56] <Mohamed_linux>        --continue
[22:56] <Mohamed_linux>            Continue getting a partially-downloaded file.  This is useful when you want to finish up a download started by a previous
[22:56] <Mohamed_linux>            instance of Wget, or by another program.  For instance:
[22:56] <Mohamed_linux>                    wget -c ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/ls-lR.Z
[22:56] <melodie> you need some configuration files in .config/lftp to achieve that
[22:57] <melodie> yes and -c is also used in lftp
[22:57] <melodie> for instance
[22:57] <melodie> so you do : wget -c ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/ls-lR.Z
[22:57] <melodie> then you hit Ctrl+c to stop it
[22:57] <Mohamed_linux> I see
[22:57] <melodie> then you call back the command line in the same console, and hop! download resumes without loosing one bit!
[22:58] <Mohamed_linux> yeah yeah
[22:58] <melodie> and --limit-rate allows reducing the download speed to leave some bandwidth for other uses (surf, mail.. )
[22:58] <melodie> and the same is possible with lftp with "set net:limit-rate X:Y"
[22:59] <Mohamed_linux> you asked me earlier about post office
[22:59] <melodie> where X: is the download rate and :Y the upload rate
[22:59] <melodie> yes?
[22:59] <Mohamed_linux> we have this service but not cool
[22:59] <melodie> aha
[22:59] <melodie> how uncool is it?
[23:00] <Mohamed_linux> and cost much money and used only by org and gov
[23:00] <melodie> O_O
[23:00] <melodie> post office???
[23:01] <Mohamed_linux> yeah every body can register and have account key but its expensive
[23:01] <Mohamed_linux> loool
[23:01] <Mohamed_linux> you know frdex right?
[23:01] <melodie> register... account key... what are they?
[23:01] <melodie> Fedex ?
[23:02] <melodie> UPS ?
[23:02] <Mohamed_linux> yeah
[23:02] <melodie> yes private companies, why?
[23:03] <Mohamed_linux> they can deliver to you here in sudan but submitted by gov post office then you have to pay a gain to the gov
[23:04] <Mohamed_linux> bay again to gov .. can you believe that
[23:04] <Mohamed_linux> looool
[23:05] <melodie> the gov is tricky
[23:05] <melodie> here we pay the stamps to the post office
[23:05] <melodie> the cost includes the VAT
[23:05] <Mohamed_linux> you in france you have this by default since nabilon bonaert no gov fees
[23:06] <melodie> the cost of expedition is more and more expensive, but people using internet a lot tend to send less and less postal mail
[23:06] <Mohamed_linux> you in france you have this by default since nabilon bonaert no gov fees
[23:06] <melodie> I get it don't worry
[23:06] <melodie> I just told you what we get
[23:06] <melodie> hidden fees :)
[23:06] <Mohamed_linux> hhhhhh
[23:07] <melodie> but the post office is very reliable
[23:07] <melodie> and quite fast
[23:07] <melodie> a letter takes 1 to 3 days to be delivered
[23:07] <melodie> simple letter with no additional cost
[23:07] <Mohamed_linux> yes i know i see it on movies
[23:07] <melodie> lol !
[23:07] <melodie> that seems science fiction to me
[23:08] <melodie> seeing what I see irl : in movies. XD
[23:08] <Mohamed_linux> too much
[23:08] <melodie> has anyone considered starting a business with teamed Gnous?
[23:08] <melodie> XD
[23:09] <melodie> to carriage stuff through Africa (let's say: Pinguins in CD's and usb sticks?)
[23:09] <Mohamed_linux> what the time now ?
[23:09] <melodie> 1:09 am, and your's?
[23:10] <Mohamed_linux> here 1:09 AM
[23:10] <melodie> ok
[23:10] <melodie> same then
[23:10] <melodie> I have to go to sleep soon, feels tired now
[23:10] <melodie> I suggest, if your web connection is not good, just download the small version
[23:10] <melodie> and then add whatever apps you want on top of it
[23:11] <melodie> I can give you the diff on a pastebin:
[23:12] <melodie> here: http://pastebin.com/FtTXUBYJ
[23:13] <Mohamed_linux> ok


[01:02] <Rug> How do I stop windows for automattically expanding to fill the entire screen when I drag them to the edge/top of the screen?
[01:02] <Rug> from*
[01:10] <Rug> How do I stop windows from automattically expanding to fill the entire screen when I drag them to the edge/top of the screen?
[01:11] <rww> System Settings -> Workspace Behavior -> Screen Edges -> [ ] Maximize windows by dragging them to the top of the screen
[01:13] <Rug> rww: Thanks
[02:10] <melodie> Can you add audio info to a CD that already has some on it, even if it has free space. I use a program called K3d... and Idk if you can.
[02:11] <melodie> (sorry the program is called K3b, not K3d lol.
[02:52] <corinth> I just finished a fresh Wubi install on my workstation. When I try to use a package manager, or apt-get, I get this error: Reading package lists... Error!
[02:52] <corinth> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[02:52] <rww> does "sudo apt-get update" help?
[02:53] <corinth> I'm running it right now. I'll let you know in a few moments.
[02:53] <corinth> Reading package lists... Error!
[02:53] <corinth> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[02:53] <corinth> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-amd64_Packages
[02:53] <corinth> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[02:53] <FloodBotK1> corinth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <corinth> (Sorry for the flood...whoops.)
[02:54] <rww> still? ugh
[02:54] <rww> one second
[02:54] <corinth> If I try to install a package (like, say, the Firefox installer, I get this error:
[02:54] <corinth> The package system could not be initialized, your configuration may be broken. Details: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[02:55] <rww> change your mirror and retry
[02:56] <rww> (System -> Software Management -> Settings -> Edit Origins -> Download from:)
[02:56] <corinth> How do I do that in KDE again? I'm used to Gnome.
[02:57] <corinth> Ah I found it, nevermind.
[02:58] <corinth> Alright. I switched mirrors, but it didn't help.
[02:59] <corinth> I've got to go for an hour. I'll come back, and hopefully we can figure it out then.
[02:59] <corinth> If you can think of anything, please message me. Thanks.
[03:02] <rww> corinth: according to the Google, you can just delete the contents of /var/lib/apt/lists/. So try removing the mentioned file and apt-get update again
[04:01] <giantpune> hi, i have a data DVD i burned back in the day and now im wanting to make a copy of it.  can somebody point me to a program that will rip the DVD to a iso?  the only thing google seems to show is how to rip music and video discs to extract their contents.  i want to end up with an image that i can just toss on another dvd-r
[04:02] <corinth> Hey rww, I'll try what you suggested rght now
[04:02] <corinth> Can I just sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/ ?
[04:04] <rww> corinth: I'd sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-amd64_Packages
[04:05] <corinth> rww: I just did that, but it said No such file or directory
[04:05] <rww> did the filename change because you switched mirrors?
[04:06] <corinth> It's very possible. Let me check.
[04:07] <corinth> Yeah, it did change. I removed the file. I'll update again.
[04:07] <corinth> It still looks like it's having trouble, though. Would it help for me to pastebin the update text?
[04:08] <giantpune> looks like k3b is able to create my .iso :)
[04:09] <corinth> You know what rww, I think this just has something to do with the package manager. Is there a way to reconfigure the package manager?
[04:22] <Daskreech> corinth: What's the problem?
[04:22] <corinth> My package manager hates me D:
[04:23] <Daskreech> :-o
[04:23] <Daskreech> apt-get install love --get-groove-with-it
[04:23] <corinth> Haha
[04:23] <corinth> I have a fresh Wubi install of Kubuntu natty, and the package manager isn't working. I get two types of errors.
[04:24] <Daskreech> pastebin please
[04:26] <corinth> Daskreech: http://pastebin.com/vT4cGUiQ
[04:27] <Daskreech> corinth: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list please
[04:27] <corinth> Daskreech: http://pastebin.com/bPaiB4vm
[04:29] <Daskreech> what does sudo apt-get update give you?
[04:32] <corinth> http://pastebin.com/dtkpPbWa
[04:34] <Daskreech> That's not comforting
[04:34] <corinth> :-P
[04:35] <corinth> It's alright. It's still vanilla. I'll just reinstall tomorrow when I get into the office. Hopefully it'll work this time.
[04:35] <corinth> Thanks anyway!
[04:36] <Daskreech> corinth: can you type bzip2 and tell me what it says?
[04:36] <Daskreech> Don't need to pastebin the gist would be good enough
[04:37] <corinth> bzip2: I won't write compressed data to a terminal.
[04:37] <corinth> bzip2: For help, type: `bzip2 --help'.
[04:37] <Daskreech> ok so bzip is installed
[04:37] <corinth> I gotta head home, though. Thanks for the A-effort.
[04:37] <corinth> Cya
[04:38] <Daskreech> OK
[07:01] <PiotrN> Hello, after yestardays update of flash, it's not working. I cant find libflashplugin.so anywhere
[07:02] <PiotrN> i installed the flash 11 beta 2 from adobe, so it's not a major problem
[07:02] <PiotrN> <- is on 64bit
[07:13] <Daskreech> PiotrN: it's not in the ~/.nsplugin or ~/.mozilla dir?
[07:28] <PiotrN> Daskreech: i have a libflashplugin, though and old one, but my firefox (from kubuntu repo) doesnt see plugins in user home directories, only those in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
[07:28] <PiotrN> i have it in ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugins
[07:30] <PiotrN> the file in /.mozilla/firefox/plugins i have copied there myself i believe some time ago when had other problems, libflashinstaller doesnt seem to put files in user dirs
[08:15] <calwig> Hi, what is a good Twitter app for Kubuntu?
[08:17] <alvin> calwig: choqok
[08:17] <alvin> !choqok
[08:19] <alvin> calwig: There's also the µblog widget for plasma, but it has an irritating bug. You need to type your password again every time you login.
[08:21] <calwig> whatever is easier
[09:05] <mete__> ok what now just loaded kubuntu is there any idea what can i do with kubuntu couldnt do with win 7?
[09:17] <Onepamopa> anyone care to explain why removing mysql-server-core-5.1 also removes 50 additional packages, like: kubuntu-desktop kpackagekit and so forth ..?
[09:35] <alvin> mete_: You really have me thinking there. I'd say: 'scroll with the mouse on a window that doesn't have focus?'
[09:49] <Quintasan> Onepamopa: It's required by Akonadi AFAIK
[09:51] <PiotrN> from #kubuntu-devel: it seems that now "sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-installer" will fix the missing flash problem after recent update
[09:58] <Onepamopa> Quintasan: then why it removes all the other packages ?
[09:58] <Onepamopa> it should only remove akonadi ?
[09:59] <Quintasan> Onepamopa: Akonadi is required for KDE?
[09:59] <Onepamopa> nice one, and how about all of us that prefer to use percona-mysql-server/client-5.5 instead of oracle's mysql ?
[09:59] <Onepamopa> it's an opensource distribution, we should be able to use the packages we want, right ?
[10:01] <alvin> Akonadi supports mysql, postgresql and sqlite.
[10:01] <alvin> I use postgresql
[10:01] <Quintasan> alvin: Is that somewhere near that percona stuff?
[10:01] <Onepamopa> alvin: strange that akonadi didnt ask me what to use during installation
[10:02] <alvin> No idea
[10:02] <Onepamopa> Quintasan: percona = drop-in replacement for mysql, fully compatible, but with extended features
[10:02] <Onepamopa> we *should* be able to use it ...
[10:03] <alvin> Onepamopa: Not really strange. Imagine the complaints...
[10:03] <alvin> You probably are able to use it.
[10:03] <Onepamopa> no, Im not
[10:03] <Onepamopa> installing percona gives 10 trillion errors about mysql-server 5.1 already installed
[10:04] <Onepamopa> removing mysql-server 5.1 removes everything *KDE*
[10:04] <alvin> It's possible that the packages conflict, yes.
[10:04] <alvin> let's see
[10:04] <Quintasan> Onepamopa: Where are those percona packages? I can't see them in archive?
[10:04] <Onepamopa> Quintasan: percona have their own repository
[10:04] <Onepamopa> why they werent included in ubuntu repository - I cant answer
[10:04] <alvin> percona is not in the default repositories
[10:04] <Quintasan> That means they might have did the packaging wrong way
[10:05] <Quintasan> In terms of conflicts,provides etc
[10:05] <Onepamopa> Quintasan: interesting that this issue didnt happen @ 10.04
[10:05] <Onepamopa> ?
[10:05] <Onepamopa> my 2nd laptop is running it @ the moment
[10:06] <Onepamopa> I think that kde+mysql dependencies should be "reworked" a bit, to allow switch between mysql and percona
[10:06] <Quintasan> https://launchpad.net/~percona-team/+archive/ppa
[10:06] <Quintasan> This?
[10:06] <Onepamopa> # Precona mysql (XtraDB)
[10:06] <Onepamopa> deb http://repo.percona.com/apt lucid main
[10:06] <Onepamopa> deb-src http://repo.percona.com/apt lucid main
[10:06] <Onepamopa> how about this ?
[10:06] <FloodBotK1> Onepamopa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:07] <Onepamopa> trust me, the packages are done right, and they work
[10:07] <Onepamopa> just not @ kubuntu 11.04 :)
[10:07] <Quintasan> Uhm, it's lucid
[10:07] <Onepamopa> doesnt matter, if I remove kde* and install percona, it works fine
[10:11] <Onepamopa> I asume that if I try to install kde back, it'll start screaming about mysql & percona
[10:11] <Onepamopa> cause the packages "depend" on eachother
[10:13] <Onepamopa> is there any way of making Akonadi to use sqlite or postgre (it didnt ask me about that during installation)
[10:13] <Quintasan> Onepamopa: Which packages did you install from percona repo?
[10:13] <Onepamopa> if there is, then I'll then be able to remove mysql and install percona
[10:13] <Quintasan> Onepamopa: Just install them
[10:13] <Onepamopa> Quintasan: packages percona-server-client-5.5 percona-server-common-5.5 percona-server-server-5.5
[10:14] <Onepamopa> I'll show u a pastebin in 2 min
[10:14] <szal> lol @ Percona -> "This PPA does not contain any packages yet."
[10:14] <Onepamopa> here ya go: http://pastebin.com/9sAjtKSv
[10:14] <Onepamopa> "installed" ;)
[10:15] <Onepamopa> it would be nice if the package manager had a "replace" function during package installation
[10:16] <Quintasan> Hmm
[10:16] <Onepamopa> "Do you want to replace mysql-server-xx-xx-xx with percona-xx-xx-xx" y/N
[10:16] <Onepamopa> ...
[10:16] <yofel> Onepamopa: you can use sqlite or postgres with, and only the mysql backend depends on myslq-server-5.1
[10:16] <yofel> at least in oneiric
[10:16] <Onepamopa> yofel: what do you mean ?
[10:17] <Quintasan> Onepamopa: akonadi-server
[10:17] <Quintasan> requires
[10:17] <Onepamopa> Quintasan: thats what I asked - is there an option to change it so it'd use sqlite or posgre
[10:17] <Onepamopa> (without reinstalling kubuntu)
[10:17] <Quintasan> akonadi-backend-mysql OR akonadi-backend-postgresql OR akonadi-backend-sqlite
[10:18] <Quintasan> install one of these
[10:18] <Quintasan> and it should work
[10:18] <Onepamopa> w8
[10:18] <Onepamopa> E: Unable to locate package akonadi-backend-sqlite :)
[10:18] <yofel> Quintasan: he's using plain natty
[10:18] <alvin> Actually, I run postgresql as backend and doesn't have akonadi-backend-postgresql installed. So, what does the package actually provides?
[10:18] <Quintasan> Hmm
[10:18] <yofel> the backends are split in >= 1.6
[10:18] <alvin> (*do not have)
[10:19] <alvin> It's akonadi 1.6.0
[10:19] <yofel> alvin: a set of dependencies from what I see ^^
[10:19] <yofel> otherwise empty
[10:19] <Onepamopa> root@xgate:~# akonadictl --version
[10:19] <Onepamopa> Akonadi 1.5.2
[10:19] <alvin> Ah, I installed postgresql. Installed the backend only installed the package. Nothing changed.
[10:19] <Quintasan> Then, installing postgresql should work
[10:20] <Onepamopa> let me try
[10:20] <alvin> Akonadi (well, virtuoso) is still eating my system resources. Nothing new there :-)
[10:20] <Onepamopa> so, now installing postgresql.. I asume that akonadi will need it running ? (strange that it doesnt require mysql to be running, just installed)
[10:21] <yofel> vituoso isn't that bad these days, at least akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder is *so* bad that virtuoso feels pretty lightweigth
[10:21] <alvin> Onepamopa: If you go the postgresql route, make sure you have standard_conforming_strings = on in /etc/postgresql/8.4/main/postgresql.conf
[10:22] <Onepamopa> alvin: actually, problem remains..
[10:22] <alvin> yofel: My load is 2 and Kontact is not even running. I suspect the problem is that I did a search in Kontact; There is a folder 'last searches' and it is probably being refreshed continually and draining system resources. Then again, it might be something else. I'm convinced the search isn't finished yet. I haven't found out how to search 1 folder only.
[10:23] <yofel> Onepamopa: if you install a newer akonadi version from backports you can remove mysql, but remember backports has kde 4.7 too
[10:23] <alvin> Onepamopa: What problem is that? Any output?
[10:23] <Onepamopa> alvin: same as before - uninstalling mysql + 40 kde packages ;)
[10:23] <yofel> Onepamopa: kubuntu backports PPA I mean
[10:23] <Onepamopa> oh, this is tarting to get so annoying
[10:23] <yofel> Onepamopa: right, you can't remoe mysql with natty's akonadi package, you need a newer one
[10:24] <yofel> this *is* fixed, but not in natty
[10:24] <Onepamopa> yofel: wont installing new akonadi package install kde 4.7 ?
[10:24] <alvin> Onepamopa: Don't uninstall. Leave the dependencies as much as possible. If there is an error in packaging (depends should be recommends or something), file a bug. Worst case, you can always change the kubuntu-desktop package.
[10:24] <Onepamopa> alvin: bug is already filed
[10:25] <Onepamopa> but as I know, it'll take ~2-3 months for someone to actually commit it @ natty repo
[10:25] <Onepamopa> ;)
[10:25] <alvin> Of course
[10:25] <yofel> Onepamopa: maybe you can carefully only pull in akonadi without the rest and later remove the PPA again, but I never tried that myself
[10:25] <Onepamopa> yofel: any repository with new akonadi ?
[10:26] <yofel> Onepamopa: stand alone? not that I know of. I'm only maintaining the kubuntu repositories, and we only have akonadi bundled with the software that needs it
[10:26] <alvin> Onepamopa: Do you really need to have mysql removed?
[10:26] <Onepamopa> alvin: not removed, replaced
[10:27] <Onepamopa> there's difference :)
[10:27] <Onepamopa> I'll still be using mysql, just not oracle one
[10:27] <yofel> Onepamopa: their package could 'Provide' mysql-server-core-5.1 and the problem would be solved too
[10:27] <alvin> Hmm, if you want to keep current versions, changing the dependencies of the akonadi package might work.
[10:28] <yofel> although that would be a bit of a hack
[10:28] <Onepamopa> yofel: their package doesnt need to provide it, cause it's working as it is, and perfectly
[10:28] <Onepamopa> every other application that I isntalled (and was depending on mysql) was working with percona installed @ the system
[10:28] <Onepamopa> and wasnt screaming about dependencies
[10:28] <yofel> Onepamopa: well, there is no intention from our side to change the packaging layout for akonadi in natty, goes against the StableReleaseUpdates policy anyway
[10:29] <Onepamopa> alvin: yes, but why then it didnt ask me what to use? mysql/sqlite/postgresql
[10:29] <Onepamopa> it should have, but it didnt
[10:29] <yofel> it's fixed in backports PPA, experimental PPA and oneiric archive. END
[10:29] <Onepamopa> yofel: provide a repository link to experimental for example
[10:30] <alvin> I think most users will not know what to answer, let alone set the correct options.
[10:30] <Onepamopa> alvin: heh, it's 3 choices.. true that most of the users wont know what to answer, that's why 1 of the options could be left as default
[10:30] <yofel> Onepamopa: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental use with care, that's where kdepim 4.7 is
[10:31] <szal> yofel: any news on Krusader update?
[10:31] <alvin> Well, who knows what the future will bring. There are more and more desktop applications that need a database. Using 1 database and setting it in the installer is a dream, BUT it sounds like a buggy road.
[10:32] <yofel> szal: 2.4.0~beta1 is in oneiric, buy Quintasan a beer for it
[10:32] <szal> heh, thx :)
[10:32] <Onepamopa> yofel: strange is that this package requires on mysql that it's not necessery to be running, just installed
[10:33] <yofel> Onepamopa: akonadi runs a private instance of /usr/bin/mysqld with a per-user configuration
[10:33] <szal> yofel: will it be propagated to kubuntu-backports (Natty)?
[10:33] <yofel> it doesn't need it to be running system wide, although one can set it up to do that
[10:34] <yofel> szal: if you want I can backport it
[10:34] <alvin> +1 for the backport of Krusader :-)
[10:34] <Onepamopa> yofel: thanks, you're the MAN! http://pastebin.com/NCMqPkxX
[10:34] <Onepamopa> :)
[10:34] <Onepamopa> that's what Im talking about )
[10:35] <szal> yofel: or whatever repo contains KDE 4.7 for Natty ^^ ..  I don't necessarily expect it to make it to the "standard" Kubuntu PPA; I'm just waiting for 4.7.1 to appear to finally upgrade here
[10:35] <Onepamopa> yofel: apt-get upgrade akonadi then apt-get remove mysql-server-core-5.1
[10:35] <Onepamopa> worked like a charm
[10:36] <yofel> good
[10:36] <Onepamopa> hm, something wrong again
[10:38] <Onepamopa> done
[10:38] <Onepamopa> mysql-server-core wasnt completely removed, but now it is
[10:38] <Onepamopa> no more troubles
[10:40] <Onepamopa> now let's see if cacti will still have dependency problems
[10:41] <Onepamopa> Package virtual-mysql-client is a virtual package provided by:
[10:41] <Onepamopa>   percona-sql-client-5.0 5.0.92-b23.87.lucid
[10:41] <Onepamopa> nice, virtual-mysql-client doesnt exist in 5.5
[10:42] <yofel> szal: krusader uploaded to backports, ping me if something's broken that I didn't notice
[10:44] <szal> yofel: thx, gonna look at it later today or tomorrow (needs to propagate to mirrors first, and I have to install it on my other machine where I already upgraded to 4.7)
[10:44] <yofel> sure
[10:59] <alvin> Yesterday akonadi_nepomuk_feeder ate my memory. I let it work for 14 hours and now mails are fetched. But today brings another resource hogging problem. virtuoso and nepomuk are fighting to gain control of all cores on my i5. Average load is above 5.
[11:00] <alvin> That's what I get for trying the expermental ppa of course, but what will Oneiric bring? Higher system requirements?
[11:00] <alvin> I might change to mutt.  KDE 4.7 feels more stable. (akonadi crashes on logout, but that's it so far). I have found a lot of bugs in KDEPIM, but no crashes yet. Resource usage is extreme though.
[11:05] <alvin> The underlying Ubuntu natty is far mor unstable than the KDE part.
[11:06] <yofel> well, we'll have one of the kdepim devs take a look at oneiric somewhat soon, but kdepim 4.4 doesn't work right in O, so we don't have much of a choice
[11:09] <alvin> Well, it's about time too. The new kmail took a long time to release. We were left for a long time with our old bugs.
[11:10] <alvin> But still, I would like to know how to searh in only 1 single folder.
[11:20] <ankit_> hiii
[11:21] <ankit_> anybody know why knetworkmanager doesn't work with DSL
[11:21] <madd0x> Good morning,i have a question there any system restore tool for kubuntu..i have fuckt up with my task manager nad some bar prblems...?
[11:23] <bazhang> madd0x, no cursing here
[11:24] <James147> madd0x: there are no global system restore tools ^^ if you tell us exxactly what went wrong we might be able to better help
[11:26] <madd0x> Excuse me for cursing,i remove by mistake my task manager from my action bar,when i add it again evrything is difrent now...i cant add application on bar like i did before and when im adding em by right cklick from up they added automaticly ,so i cant choise the postion.
[11:26] <James147> madd0x: you can move widgets around by opening the panel settings and draging them
[11:27] <James147> you can also drag from the add widgets to the panel to position them
[11:28] <madd0x> exacly when im draggin em they goes on the right side of bar...cant add em on my left side.
[11:29] <James147> then open the panel settings and drag them
[11:30] <madd0x> haha YES!finalyyyy!!thanks a lot evryone.
[12:13] <bluelightning> so, just upgraded to KDE SC 4.7.0 on natty via the backports ppa, unfortunately it seems to have broken moving emails via a rule with IMAP
[12:14] <bluelightning> moving mails manually between folders still works fine though
[12:14] <bluelightning> any suggestions? I was hoping that kontact/kmail would remain untouched in the upgrade as the new KDEPIM was not included
[12:15] <bulldog98> bluelightning: you could do a ppa-purge
[12:16] <bluelightning> sure, but if possible I'd rather not have to roll back completely to 4.6
[12:16] <bluelightning> it's only a minor bug after all, but somewhat irritating
[12:17] <bluelightning> it's reporting "append completed" as the error; which AFAICT is a success message from the IMAP server (?)
[12:25] <bluelightning> actually it freezes when clicking Send on a message, too... so might have to purge :/
[12:59] <alvin> bluelightning: Bug 81967
[12:59] <alvin> ehm, I meant Bug Bug 819676
[13:02] <bluelightning> alvin: seems not particularly helpful yet :/
[13:02] <bluelightning> I'm trying to purge but now I have a completely broken system :(
[13:02] <alvin> Not yet, no :-) but you can now say: 'hey, me too!'
[13:02] <alvin> I moved my filters outside of Kontact to imapfilter after this bug. So now I can filter again. I also completely redid all Kontact settings.
[13:03] <alvin> and don't have the send error you now see.
[13:03] <bluelightning> alvin: imapfilter? how does that work?
[13:04] <alvin> It's a little program (imapfilter). You write a config.lua file that isn't too hard to understand and well documented, then let it run every 10 minutes.
[13:05] <alvin> It can move mails between accounts, or mark them as read, and so on. It fits my needs.
[13:07] <yuvi_> hey
[13:08] <bazhang> hi
[13:08] <yuvi_> i need help installing phpMyadmin on my system
[13:08] <yuvi_> I am currently using ubuntu 10.04
[13:09] <yuvi_> Bazhang...can you be a help on that....mate?
[13:10] <James147> yuvi_: it would help if you describe what problem you have having with its installtion
[13:10] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin  <--- yuvi_
[13:11] <yuvi_> mate...i have almost reached the page on phpMyadmin but it seems the root password i provided works no longer and i can not get in
[13:12]  * James147 notes its the root password for mysql not you computer
[13:13] <James147> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset << to reset the mysql password
[13:13] <yuvi_> yeaf offcourse ... but the password i set as mysql server password does not work
[13:14] <yuvi_> thanks james.... let me try the link
[13:15] <yuvi_> mate....is there a way...i can check whether my mysql server is up and running?
[13:16] <James147> service mysqld status
[13:16] <James147> s/mysqld/mysql ^^
[13:16] <yuvi_> what shalll i do with that?
[13:16] <James147> type it in konsole
[13:17] <yuvi_> konsole?? is it similar to terminal?
[13:18] <bazhang> yes
[13:18] <James147> its kdes terminal emulator
[13:18] <yuvi_> how do i reach it?
[13:19] <yuvi_> james??
[13:20] <James147> they same way you reach any program?
[13:20] <yuvi_> it says there is no such file or directory ..... what does that mean ?
[13:22] <yuvi_> my php and apache are working fine...i am sure of it... else.... the main problem i face is the installlation of mysql server
[13:22] <yuvi_> please help?? am new to linux...!
[13:23] <James147> when your doing what?
[13:23] <Pici> !doesntwork
[13:24] <yuvi_> just help me install mysql sever on my system...what is the easiest way?
[13:24] <James147> yuvi_: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[13:24] <Terbaddo> Alt+F2 then "konsole"
[13:26] <yuvi_> james: its asking for password?
[13:26] <alvin> lol. 'Does it sit on the couch all day'. I'm gonna use that question a lot in the near future :-)
[13:27] <yuvi_> james147:which password should i provide?
[13:27] <James147> yuvi_: then type in your users password
[13:27] <yuvi_> ok
[13:28]  * James147 suggests learning the basic linux commands ^^
[13:28] <yuvi_> its working...
[13:28] <yuvi_> what next ?? am i done?
[13:29] <James147> yeah... that will have installed mysql if it wasnt already
[13:30] <yuvi_> thanks a ton james147..... what shall i do next?.... cause i want to edit sql files?? should i get phpMyadmin or there is some easy way of doing it?
[13:31] <howlymowly> hi poeple...  i justinstalled ufw (ubuntu firewall)  I use kubuntu but for some reason it won#t start automatically? what's the easiest way to enforce this behaviour?
[13:31] <James147> why do you need mysql to edit sql files?
[13:31] <howlymowly> and what should be the "default" behaviour?
[13:32] <yuvi_> you tell ?? what shall i do??
[13:32] <yuvi_> just help me edit my sql dump ...the easiest way possible?
[13:32] <James147> yuvi_: I dont know what your trying to do... but if you dont know how to use mysql then I suggest you start reading
[13:33] <Linkmaster> howlymowly: you should add it into the 'startup programs' which be found in system settings -> startup and shutdown
[13:33] <howlymowly> Linkmaster: my problem is: I can not do that, because ufw seems to require root rights to be started...
[13:33] <James147> Linkmaster: I dint think so... ufw is a system service and needs to be started by the init system
[13:34] <Linkmaster> Oh
[13:34] <Linkmaster> Well, I was taking a slight guess, if its root, either use 'kdesudo' or take James's advice and use the init system
[13:35] <howlymowly> well.  how do I use the init system then :)?
[13:35] <James147> ^^ start it with "sudo service ufw start" ... or read about run levels in ubuntu to find out how to do it automatically (I cant remember off hand how it works in ubuntu anymore :p )
[13:35] <alvin> I'm really questioning the whole akonadi thing. It looks like a great idea, but we're just not ready for it yet. Computers aren't fast enough. Maybe in a few years we'll have hardware that can keep up. There must have been quite some research on the 'semantic desktop' part too, but I still don't get it.
[13:35] <howlymowly> James147: will ufw then start by default the next time I reboot my computer?
[13:36] <yuvi_> james??
[13:36] <James147> howlymowly: not with services uft start (it only starts it once)
[13:36] <alvin> James147: ubuntu doesn't has runlevels anymore :-) And, howlymowly: ufw will start automatically if it is enabled.
[13:36] <howlymowly> alvin: ahh.. thx.  didn't know that
[13:36] <alvin> ufw status will tell you if it is.
[13:37] <yuvi_> please help ?? i have to edit sql dump? how to do that ?
[13:38] <James147> open a text editor and start editing...
[13:38] <yuvi_> and then?
[13:39] <James147> yuvi_: not something I can tell you as I DO NOT know what you are doing
[13:40] <yuvi_> i need a programme to edit sql dump? any of them..either a phpMyadmin or sql gui..? anything you can help me install and runnning on my pc?
[13:40] <James147> yuvi_: mysql dumps are plain text files as far as I know... so and text editor should do
[13:41] <crowbar> Is there an official method for disabling dhcp on eth0 and setting a static IP address that does not include editing /etc/networking/interfaces ?
[13:41] <James147> crowbar: network manager should be able to do that...
[13:42] <crowbar> No, it lets me set a manual connection with a static IP, but when the machine boots it still uses DHCP.  I cannot set the manual conection as the "System connection" as the checkbox is grayed out because NetworkManager applet on kde doesn't implement it.
[13:42]  * James147 it does in kde 4.7
[13:42] <jrdnyquist> Where/What file(s) does Kubuntu 11.04 store network-manager information?
[13:43] <James147> crowbar: the only other way is with the inerfaces file
[13:43] <yuvi_> ...you right james.... they are text files only.... but using a proper editor helps me edit the values ..directly
[13:43] <yuvi_> is there a way i can get phpMyadmin up and running???
[13:43] <James147> yuvi_: well then good luck finding one...
[13:44] <yuvi_> please anyone??
[13:45] <osinclair_> crowbar: I have another strange problem - wireless set to DHCP somehow picks up an old manual setting and seems to give the if 2 ip4 numbers!
[13:45]  * James147 has already given you the infomation needed by what you have told us
[13:45] <yuvi_> help me setup phpMyadmin??
[13:46] <alvin> crowbar: Why would you not use the interfaces file?
[13:46] <crowbar> alvin: because kde claims to have a GUI for it?
[13:46] <James147> crowbar: it does in 4.7 ^^
[13:47] <yuvi_> alvin?? james?? anyone.....please help
[13:47] <alvin> Oh, that. KDE also claims it will use max 50MB of ram for nepomuk, while the reality is more like 4GB. :-)
[13:48] <alvin> crowbar: Think about it the other way. Where would you rather set your network settings? In an easily to edit config file, or in a program that depends on a GUI? I don't mind the GUI, but it shouldn't be the only method.
[13:50] <osinclair_> crowbar: you should be able to do it in networkmanager-kde but otherwise try installing WICD
[13:51] <osinclair_> note wicd does not support vpn, mobile modems etc... at least not last time I used it
[13:52] <crowbar> alvin: You don't have to sell me on using interfaces.  kubuntu shipped a gui that doesn't work.  wicd also had the same problem of letting dhcp run first.  i could manually switch to my static IP.  And the bonus on that was it killed plasma when the new IP was set.
[13:56] <alvin> Well, I can understand the expectation that it should work (maybe it does, I can't use it because I some settings that networkmanager nor wicd support). On the other hand, a lot of GNU/Linux distributions have been shipping unfinished software for the past years. Networkmanager is but one example. There's also Upstart, nepomuk, pulseaudio,... Most of these programs replace perfectly working systems. I still don't really know what to do
[13:56] <alvin>  with this trend. You could use something like Debian stable, but miss out on some interesting new stuff. I don't think debian has networkmanager, but the interfaces file is well documented in their documentation.
[13:56] <alvin> It'll be interesting to see what Wayland will do.
[14:01] <osinclair_> crowbar: you sure about wicd? As I can recall it you can set the default wired configuration you want it to use
[14:06] <raevin> anyone know of a way to completely remove ubuntu desktop from my computer?
[14:07] <raevin> i don't really want to go through kpackagekit and delete all the left over packages it leaves when you just remove ubuntu-desktop
[14:08] <bazhang> !purekde | raevin
[14:09] <raevin> Thanks ubottu & bazhang
[14:09] <James147> !ubottu
[14:09] <bazhang> one of us is a bot
[14:10] <James147> also that page hasnt been updated in a while :S
[14:10] <raevin> bazhang: i know, but still :D  he's so underappreciated in this channel.
[14:11] <raevin> James147: it still works, at least for the most part, lol
[14:11] <James147> raevin: "for the most part" ^^ so I thought I would point it out :)
[14:12] <raevin> James147: I appreciate it :D  but, at the least its a start into the world of removing Ma...Gnome from my computer :D
[14:30] <alvin> I wanted to subscribe to a bug about akonadi/strigi/nepomuk/virtuoso resource hogging, but there are too many bug reports about that and I can't choose.
[14:30] <alvin> and thinking I wanted to install Kmail on my N900. It'll probably kill the poor little device.
[14:31] <alvin> There must be some solution
[14:34] <corbachini33> hi
[14:34] <corbachini33> is this teh kubuntu channel?
[14:35] <bazhang> corbachini33, yes
[14:35] <corbachini33> finally... xD
[14:35] <corbachini33> I wanted to install kubuntu on my pc
[14:35] <bazhang> try /topic
[14:35] <corbachini33> but I dont now if it supports it
[14:35] <bazhang> what specs corbachini33
[14:36] <corbachini33> One moment please..
[14:39] <corbachini33> AMD ATHlon 1600+, MMX, 3DNow, 1.4GHz
[14:39] <corbachini33> RAM: 1024
[14:39] <corbachini33> wireless: Conceptronic 54g wirelless PCI Card
[14:39] <corbachini33> harddrive: MAXTOR STM3160215A
[14:39] <corbachini33> CD: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H42N
[14:39] <FloodBotK1> corbachini33: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:40] <corbachini33> AMD ATHlon 1600+, MMX, 3DNow, 1.4GHz
[14:40] <corbachini33> RAM: 1024
[14:40] <corbachini33> wireless: Conceptronic 54g wirelless PCI Card
[14:40] <corbachini33> harddrive: MAXTOR STM3160215A
[14:40] <corbachini33> CD: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H42N
[14:40] <FloodBotK1> corbachini33: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:40] <corbachini33> did you receive the info?
[14:40] <bazhang> sure
[14:40] <bazhang> next time use paste.ubuntu.com please
[14:41] <corbachini33> ok thanks :D I wasnt sure i got muted two tiems...
[14:41] <corbachini33> ok..
[14:41] <bazhang> should do fine corbachini33
[14:42] <corbachini33> ok thanks...
[14:42] <corbachini33> I shoould install teh stable version?
[14:42] <bazhang> yep
[14:42] <bazhang> 11.04
[14:42] <corbachini33> ok thanks a lot :)
[14:42] <corbachini33> bye
[14:43] <bazhang> welcome :)
[14:43] <bazhang> whoops
[14:44] <alvin> "Hello, I'm a pc with a single core and 1GB of ram." Meet kontact: "om, nom, nom,...."
[14:44] <alvin> The poor guy.
[14:55] <mfraz74> It isn't going to be a speedy experience
[14:56] <genii-around> I was tempted to refer them to #xubuntu
[14:56] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:58] <esmirlin> hy guys i've aded backports packages to the natty version of kubuntu in order to install kde SC 4.7 and then dist-upgraded... it has installed lots of packages but know i don't know if i have the las version of kde cause icons still look the same :S
[14:59] <BluesKaj> open dolphin and click on help about kde
[15:00] <esmirlin> BluesKaj: it says kde 4.6.5, however i adde the backports don't understand :S
[15:02] <BluesKaj> esmirlin, did you update before dist upgrading
[15:02] <Onepamopa> Quintasan:  read/write requests:                 1900456 (34320.20 per sec.)
[15:02] <Onepamopa> that's why I use percona
[15:02] <Onepamopa> :)
[15:02] <esmirlin> yeah sure!
[15:02] <esmirlin> what's percona?
[15:02] <Onepamopa> Quintasan: and this is just @ the laptop.... :)
[15:02] <Onepamopa> esmirlin: google it
[15:03] <Quintasan> Onepamopa: How MySQL looks in comparison?
[15:03] <Onepamopa> Quintasan: dunno, but I can test later (when I get back home)
[15:03] <Onepamopa> I can tell you right now that mysql will be far worst than percona in this benchmark
[15:03] <esmirlin> so no way to real upgrading? :S
[15:04] <mfraz74> I've gone back to the KDE 4.6 icons anyway
[15:04] <BluesKaj> esmirlin, exactly how did you add the backports ?
[15:04] <Onepamopa> Quintasan: u can test it urself with sysbench: sysbench --num-threads=16 --max-requests=100000 --test=oltp --oltp-table-size=1000000 --mysql-socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock run
[15:05] <Onepamopa> that does read/write benchmark
[15:05] <esmirlin> BluesKaj: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa
[15:06] <Quintasan> Onepamopa: FATAL: unable to connect to MySQL server, aborting...
[15:06] <Quintasan> Ho ho
[15:06] <Quintasan> magic SQL
[15:06] <James147> esmirlin: thats not the backports ppa
[15:06] <BluesKaj> esmirlin, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backportstry
[15:07] <James147> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports   ^^
[15:07] <BluesKaj> ooops try  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[15:07] <esmirlin> thanks!
[15:08] <mfraz74> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backport
[15:08] <mfraz74> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[15:09] <Onepamopa> Quintasan: well u gotta edit it a bit
[15:09] <Onepamopa> it's not "plug and play" :)
[15:09] <Onepamopa> u gotta create user without pass
[15:09] <Onepamopa> then create database for sysbench
[15:09] <Quintasan> Oh, too much hassle then :P
[15:09] <Onepamopa> then prepare it :)
[15:09] <Onepamopa> ohh w8 :)
[15:10] <Onepamopa> user: sbtest@localhost (no password)
[15:10] <Onepamopa> new db: sbtest
[15:10] <Onepamopa> then execute sysbench --test=oltp --oltp-table-size=1000000 --mysql-socket=/tmp/mysql.sock prepare
[15:10] <Onepamopa> edit path to the .sock file
[15:10] <esmirlin> BluesKaj: so the one i aded what was for? :S
[15:10] <Onepamopa> and then sysbench --num-threads=16 --max-requests=100000 --test=oltp --oltp-table-size=1000000 --mysql-socket=/path/to/mysqld.sock run
[15:10] <Onepamopa> and wait....
[15:12] <BluesKaj> the one you added is for minor upgrades to your existing kde , es
[15:12] <BluesKaj> esmirlin,
[15:12] <Onepamopa> Quintasan: tell me the result ;)
[15:13] <Quintasan> Onepamopa: I have no idea what to do with those commands you gave me
[15:13] <Onepamopa> lol :)
[15:13]  * Quintasan has no SQL knowledge whatsover
[15:13] <Onepamopa> Quintasan: well, then someone else could test it :)
[15:14] <Onepamopa> lol, new record: read/write requests:                 1400168 (52940.18 per sec.)
[15:16] <BluesKaj> Quintasan,, Onepamopa , this looks like a subject for #ubuntu-server chat.
[15:17] <Onepamopa> BluesKaj: actually, Im doing this benchmark @ my laptop, running the "normal" version :)
[15:17] <Onepamopa> I'll test tomorrow @ my server machine, I expect better results there
[15:17] <Onepamopa> :)
[15:42] <ubuntu> what is the command to present all desktops?
[15:42] <ubuntu> Its like, F8 or something, I forgot though
[15:49] <yofel> ubuntu: ctrl+f8
[15:53] <ubuntu> yofel: thank you
[15:53] <ubuntu> yofel: well, I tried, and nothing happened
[15:54] <yofel> works for me (kde 4.7)
[15:54] <ubuntu> This is a LiveUSB 11.04
[15:54] <ubuntu> So its KDE4.6.2 I believe
[15:54] <ubuntu> Yeah
[16:04] <szal> works here too (KDE 4.6.5)
[16:07] <kyubutsu> gwenview not showing pictures inside tar.gz file. anyone know the plugin for that
[16:07] <kyubutsu> o.0
[16:09] <szal> kyubutsu: no problem here (KDE 4.6.5)
[16:09] <kyubutsu> :o
[16:09] <szal> I do, however, remember having installed some plugins
[16:09] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu, why not just extract them
[16:10] <kyubutsu> no  >:(
[16:10] <kyubutsu> am on 4.6.2 here.. hm
[16:10] <kyubutsu> still
[16:10] <BluesKaj> aha ... you want them hidden from prying eyes eh ? :)
[16:10] <szal> kyubutsu: kipi-plugins
[16:11] <kyubutsu> description did not point to that 'feature' tho
[16:11] <kyubutsu> :-/
[16:11] <kyubutsu> you have?
[16:11] <szal> who has what?
[16:12] <kyubutsu> kipi-plugins installed
[16:12] <szal> yes
[16:12] <kyubutsu> that might be it, i go check nau
[16:12] <BluesKaj> kipi-plugins are installed by default with digikam
[16:12] <kyubutsu> i dun have that, i has gwenview
[16:13] <BluesKaj> bbl..
[16:13]  * BluesKaj shrugs ...
[16:15] <szal> kyubutsu: that'll give you a host of additional options, among them manipulating EXIF data
[16:19] <kyubutsu> fail
[16:19] <kyubutsu> :(
[16:20] <kyubutsu> that's one nifty capability, and i cant has!  >:(
[16:20] <kyubutsu> maybe i get in when upgrade to 4.6.5
[16:22] <kyubutsu> kipi plugins has a nice set of extra tools tho.
[16:23] <Drakmor> Hey, I've been setting up some wine applications on my new system (kubuntu 11.04 64 bit) and it said I might need 32 bit OpenGL drivers. How do I tell if I have these?
[16:24] <kyubutsu> check in kpackagekit if you have ia32-libs
[16:25] <Drakmor> thanks
[16:25] <Drakmor> that's the only one?
[16:25] <kyubutsu> you have?
[16:25] <Drakmor> yup
[16:25] <kyubutsu> hm..
[16:26] <Drakmor> must be something else then.... TF2 in Steam is being weird with the player textures...
[16:26] <Drakmor> the players often appear solid white
[16:26] <Drakmor> but eveything else is fine
[16:29] <kyubutsu> your games run so opengl has to be there. your 32bit compatibility layer is installed.  so that leaves wine .. maybe a bug in it
[16:30] <Drakmor> looks like there's an additional command I need to add when launching
[16:30] <Drakmor> one second
[16:44] <mr-rich> Is there a way ot get kpackagekit to ignore certian updates?
[16:45] <BluesKaj> odd behaviour , kresource migration tooll GUI pops up when ever I launch konversation ...how to get rid of this annoyance ?
[16:46] <BluesKaj> mr-rich, you can disable the affected packages by disabling their package repositories
[16:47] <genii-around> There is also pinning
[16:48] <genii-around> !pinning
[16:50] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: main kubuntu repo ... not an option. The problem is an old program called "tvtime". I have a very old tv card that need this program to run. Well, I went and installed a web cam and tvtime stopped working. Turns out of I downgrade to an earlier version of tvtime both the web  cam and the tv card can co-exist happily ... the updater keeps telling me to update tvtime, though ... I just
[16:51] <mr-rich> want to tell updater to ignore tvtime updates
[16:51] <BluesKaj> mr-rich, read genii-around post above , this will probly solve your problem
[16:54] <BluesKaj> BBL ...shaggy lawn needs a haircut
[17:01] <mr-rich> genii-around: Yes, that is what I want to do. I want to "Hold" a package. but it tells you how to do it in Synaptic, not Kpackagekit ...
[17:04] <genii-around> mr-rich: You do it in the /etc/apt/preferences file which is for anything that uses apt as it's backend
[17:15] <mauri> error using moun to update package: it seems that Qapt is missing o disappers............ WHAT SHOULD i DO
[17:16] <Peace-> mauri: it's a bug of alpha
[17:17] <Peace-> mauri: alpha is not supported right now is not released
[17:17] <Peace-> btw ...
[17:17] <mauri> Peace-: ops i  didnt know
[17:17] <Peace-> you can installa stuff with sudo apt-get install STUFF
[17:17] <Peace-> muon it's only a visual application
[17:17] <Peace-> you can install kpackagekit
[17:17] <Peace-> instead of muon...
[17:18] <Peace-> or like i did  , terminal ==> sudo apt-get install stuff
[17:18] <Peace-> or like i did  , terminal ==> sudo apt-get remove stuff
[17:18] <Peace-> or like i did  , terminal ==> sudo apt-get update &&  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:20] <mauri> Peace-: yes i already have kpackagekit but i wanted to try moun. I try to install STUFF
[17:21] <Peace-> mauri: muon is not the default installer for kubuntu 11.04
[17:21] <Peace-> mauri: kubuntu 11.10 will use muon
[17:21] <mauri> Peace-: im using 11.10
[17:21] <Peace-> but it's not staable
[17:21] <Peace-> mauri: well 11.10 will be released on october
[17:21] <Pici> 11.10 support is in #ubuntu+1 only.
[17:21] <Peace-> you are using an unstable stuff
[17:21] <mauri> Peace-: im tring to install stuff but... E: Unable to locate package stuff
[17:21] <Peace-> it's perfectly normal have issues with alpha release
[17:22] <Peace-> mauri: your first language is ... ?
[17:22] <mauri> Peace-: ok so i leave the idea to try it... waiting for october
[17:22] <Peace-> mauri: i guess you should use 11.04
[17:22] <mauri> Peace-: italian... my englhish is so bad i know
[17:22] <Peace-> mauri: e allora vai sul canale #ubuntu-it
[17:22] <Peace-> mauri: zio billy
[17:43] <judgen> Is there any way to get twin to run on kubuntu?
[17:44] <Peace-> twin?
[17:47] <genii-around> !info twin
[17:54] <BluesKaj> genii-around, krusader ?
[17:55] <genii-around> BluesKaj: What, my preferred file manager?
[17:55] <BluesKaj> no, twin
[17:56] <genii-around> BluesKaj: I'm not sure if they meant an old text-window thing used to be in Hardy or maybe perhaps twinview
[17:56] <genii-around> !info twin hardy
[17:56] <BluesKaj> genii-around, ahh, ok
[18:22] <venkat> Is there any software available for CCTV / IP TV
[18:30] <BluesKaj> venkat, I think v4l
[18:47] <genii-around> !info zoneminder
[18:48] <raevin> anyone know why i'm getting an error saying the trash has reached its maximum capacity when i just cleaned it out?  i've refreshed trash a few times, found nothing in ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ and even moving the files to a new folder before deleting that folder doesn't do any good
[18:51] <Peace-> raevin: mmm remove that settings on trash settings
[18:52] <Peace-> that could be helpfull for now
[18:52] <Peace-> then i would try with a new user
[18:52] <Peace-> to test the sitation
[18:52] <Peace-> situation
[18:53] <raevin> better yet, do you know how to add a prompt/option to the shell (well, not sure if that's what KDE calls it, but the pop up menu that appears when you right click on an item)?
[18:53] <genii-around> You might try also to set .kde/share/config/trashrc line of:Empty=false   to: Empty=true
[19:12] <bs> when searching aptitude ... how to stop search from wrapping?
[19:23] <bs> when searching aptitude ... how to stop search from wrapping?
[19:23] <Pici> bs: wrapping? what do you mean?
[19:23] <jkoltner> Hello... could someone point me to how I configure Bluetooth in KDE under Ubuntu 11.04?  I don't see anything obvious in the settings menus.
[19:23] <jkoltner> (I have a Bluetooth mouse I want to use)
[19:24] <bs> Sorry, search wrapping, not line wrapping. Do /<search term>, n, n, n, etc. - just stop when you hit bottom, don't keep wrapping back to the top on the next 'n'.
[19:25] <Pici> bs: I'm sorry, but I don't use aptitude interactively, I'm not sure how that would be done.
[19:27] <anebi> hi,  i just installed kubuntu 11.04 and i have a problem
[19:27] <anebi> i get 'unable to enumerate us device on port X'. i know this is know problem, is there any fix for this error message?
[19:28] <anebi> this is making crazy my laptop. i know there is solution with disabling usb modules, but i need my usb devices. so any other fix?
[19:33] <erikdecker> i there guys i have a problem were i cant install anything because kpackagekit isnt working properly
[19:34] <erikdecker> any know how 2 help
[19:34] <Quintasan> erikdecker: What is exactly wrong?
[19:35] <erikdecker> kpackage kit gives me: "an unkown error  has happened"
[19:35] <Quintasan> Uhh, that's not helpful :/
[19:35] <Quintasan> erikdecker: Did you try Muon?
[19:35] <erikdecker> i cant to terminal installs because its not freeing up
[19:35] <shane2peru> erikdecker: in the terminal try: sudo apt-get install -f
[19:35] <erikdecker> here what i get
[19:36] <erikdecker> when i try to get synaptics to reinstall kpackagekit (i saw it work on ubuntu forums)
[19:36] <erikdecker> erikdecker@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic.
[19:36] <erikdecker> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:36] <erikdecker> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:36] <erikdecker> erikdecker@ubuntu:~$ apt-get install synaptic.
[19:36] <FloodBotK1> erikdecker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:36] <erikdecker> soory :(
[19:37] <Quintasan> erikdecker: It's a bot, dont worry
[19:37] <Quintasan> erikdecker: Are you running any other instances of Package kit?
[19:38] <erikdecker> no im not
[19:38] <Quintasan> erikdecker: ps aux | grep dpkg <-- in terminal
[19:38] <Quintasan> Paste any output to pastebin
[19:38] <erikdecker> ill try it thank you
[19:39] <Quintasan> erikdecker: It won't solve that
[19:39] <erikdecker> ok i got allot of stuff
[19:39] <Quintasan> erikdecker: It lists all proceses running and looks for dpkg
[19:39] <Quintasan> erikdecker: Paste that to paste.ubuntu.com
[19:40] <erikdecker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/663663/
[19:41] <Quintasan> erikdecker: So you tried to update your Kubuntu, yeah?
[19:41] <erikdecker> yes then it got frozen and i left it for 2 hours and it gave me an error
[19:41] <Quintasan> I see
[19:42] <Quintasan> erikdecker: sudo kill -s KILL 5494
[19:42] <Quintasan> erikdecker: then
[19:42] <erikdecker> ok
[19:42] <Quintasan> erikdecker: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:42] <erikdecker> ok thats going
[19:43] <erikdecker> i have 177 updates so it will take a while
[19:45] <erikdecker> ok thats done
[19:45] <Quintasan> erikdecker: I recommend that you try Muon
[19:45] <Quintasan> https://launchpad.net/~echidnaman/+archive/qapt
[19:46] <erikdecker> add that as a source you mean
[19:48] <erikdecker> ok im all cleared up
[19:49] <erikdecker> thank you very much
[19:49] <Quintasan> No problem
[20:07] <xboxowns> hey guys
[20:07] <xboxowns> I need someone to help me here please.
[20:07] <xboxowns> I have a little problem with my kubuntu OS and it is super frustrating.
[20:07] <Onepamopa> explain
[20:08] <xboxowns> I cannot watch anything online because if I do the picture plays but after couple of seconds stops, like  video freezes but the audio keeps on going and the freezing happens for 10 to 15 seconds before it resumes again
[20:08] <xboxowns> and it keeps doing this hiccup which is super annoying
[20:08] <xboxowns> it does it on youtube, on anything even on flash
[20:08] <Onepamopa> havent had such problems
[20:08] <xboxowns> I have it on mine
[20:08] <xboxowns> and it is annoying this constant hiccups it does
[20:08] <Onepamopa> maybe hardware/driver issue ?
[20:09] <xboxowns> i have x61s lenovo
[20:09] <Onepamopa> I have a laptop that when I play flash movie on it, the screen goes white and shuts down
[20:09] <Onepamopa> so, nothing new
[20:09] <Onepamopa> xboxowns ideapad y570 here
[20:09] <Onepamopa> no troubles
[20:09] <xboxowns> Oh..ok. so it is go for it to act annoyingly it is a feature then. ah thanks
[20:10] <Onepamopa> xboxowns I ment, my 2nd laptop has hardware issue
[20:10] <xboxowns> But it is normal for kubuntu then, right?
[20:10] <Onepamopa> everything else works great, but playing movie even flash, and @ windows and @ linux - same problem
[20:10] <xboxowns> Nope..not my windows
[20:10] <xboxowns> my windows play it smooth
[20:10] <Onepamopa> so, only @ linux
[20:10] <xboxowns> yes
[20:10] <Onepamopa> did you install any graphics driver ?
[20:11] <xboxowns> No
[20:11] <Onepamopa> what's ur gpu ?
[20:11] <xboxowns> How do I tell on kubuntu?
[20:11] <Onepamopa> you can tell by specifications of your laptop model
[20:12] <Onepamopa> check manufacturer website for specifications
[20:12] <genii-around> The command: sudo lshw -C video                 also gives some pretty good info
[20:12] <xboxowns> http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-x61s/4507-3121_7-32465540.html
[20:13] <Onepamopa> genii-around true
[20:13] <Onepamopa> Intel GMA X3100
[20:13] <Onepamopa> hm, that shouldnt require any special driver
[20:14] <xboxowns> Ok, so I guess I have to accept what I got and let it be then.
[20:14] <Onepamopa> my integrated gpu is same series, no troubles
[20:15] <xboxowns> Oh ok. Thanks for the help.
[20:16] <Onepamopa> Graphics Controller Model
[20:16] <Onepamopa>     GMA HD 3000
[20:16] <Onepamopa>     GeForce GT 555M
[20:16] <FloodBotK1> Onepamopa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:16] <xboxowns> cool
[20:17] <Onepamopa> Im using only gma hd 3000 @ ubuntu (cause no decent optimus support yet)
[20:17] <xboxowns> k
[20:18] <Onepamopa> xboxowns read here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=471557
[20:19] <Onepamopa> last post has a follow-up link
[20:19] <Onepamopa> hope it helps you
[21:11] <Machtin> hm, if my mouse totally lags and htop shows me all cpu-cores are at 0-10% load.. how can i find out what's troubleing?
[21:12] <rectec794613> Is there any way I can add a new system event notification?
[21:16] <Onepamopa> Machtin what's causing the loads ?
[21:16] <Onepamopa> not the mouse I hope ;)
[21:21] <Machtin> Onepamopa: don't know.. there's not much load
[21:44] <rectec794613> ok i'll ask again
[21:44] <rectec794613> Is there any way I can add a new system event notification?
[21:47] <James147> rectec794613: to do what exactly?
[21:47] <rectec794613> James147: say like, when i close or open a window, or change desktops like in kde 3
[21:48] <rectec794613> James147: to have it play a sound
[21:49] <James147> rectec794613: have you looked in the notification settings?
[21:49] <linux-beginner-h> how can I use face recognition in digikam 2.0? I have can the images... but it seems that it does not work well!
[21:49] <linux-beginner-h> =>correction: I have scanned the immages
[21:50] <rectec794613> James147: yeah but i can't find a way to add one. i think i was able to before but if i was, i don't remember
[21:50] <James147> rectec794613: there are already ones for close windows.. new windows...
[21:54] <rectec794613> James147: which event source? i can't find them.
[21:54] <James147> in kwin window manager
[21:56] <rectec794613> James147: oh well i'm not using kwin, but there's no way to add a new notification with the system settings menu?
[22:12] <Enkidu_ak> For some reason kscreensaver keeps hanging on me. I can't reliably reproduce the error, but occasionally I will return to find the screensaver active and the mouse responsive, but no password dialogue opens when I attempt to interact with it. I can kill the process from console, but the display remains frozen and I am forced to reboot.
[22:13] <Enkidu_ak> I am running Natty


[08:17] <filipsohajek> Hello, can you please set status Triaged and priority High to this bug? : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcre3/+bug/1361610 Thanks


[03:34] <hasyim> how to install driver VGA ?
[03:37] <hasyim> geforce 930m?
[04:25] <maxi_> hola
[04:25] <maxi_> hello?
[07:49] <mate99> hi.im using ub mate 16.4.2,is t
[07:49] <mate99> hi.im using ub mate 16.4.2,is it safe to upgrade mate 1.16 from ppa?
[07:53] <mate99> ?
[07:53] <Astro7467> yes, should be fine. I'm running 16.04.2 with 1.16 on a few systems with out issue
[07:53] <mate99> thanks.
[07:58] <Mmike> Astro7467, which ppa are you  using?
[08:31] <Guest47879> die AMI's Machen das Internet Kaputt
[08:32] <alkisg> !de
[08:32] <alkisg> !en
[08:41] <gebruiker> Ubuntu mate artwork package on launchpad is missing certain icons I.e redshift white icon. What package contains these white panel icons? After installing the mate artwork package I am seeing the white volume control applet icon on the bar but the redshift icon is the regular one. I am trying this out on another distrobution.
[12:04] <pacman123112> Hello?
[12:04] <pacman123112> I need some help.
[12:04] <pacman123112> Anyone?
[12:11] <KingstonDataTrav> Hello.
[12:12] <KingstonDataTrav> O 'ello...
[12:56] <bhawk> hello
[12:57] <bhawk> I'm trying to install Flash on my system so I can use pandora... I think it's installed but the pandora opening menu says I need to install Flash Player v.10 or better
[13:00] <bhawk> what might I be doing wrong?
[13:04] <Astro7467> have you looked in the Software Boutique. shld be there
[13:04] <Astro7467> unsure of version tho
[13:13] <bhawk> yes that's where I installed from
[13:13] <bhawk> you're correct it does say which version is in the boutique
[13:14] <bhawk> doesn't
[13:21] <bhawk> any other ideas?
[13:25] <bhawk> OK rebooted now it works
[15:11] <TwoNotes> WHat is the easiest way to make U-M on Rpi run with RO HD card?  I have an external drive for /var and /home
[15:17] <alkisg> Only put /boot in the card
[15:17] <alkisg> And the whole /usr, /var, /home etc to the HD
[15:24] <TwoNotes> Then all I need to edit is /boot/cmdline.txt?
[16:54] <humbert15> j
[21:31] <TwoNotes> Software Updater says "not all updates can be installed", lists several possible reasons, but not THE reason.  ??
[21:36] <TwoNotes> is there a log file somewhere?
[21:37] <jack_> If I install a new Linux distro is there a way to not have to re-install my Steam games?
[22:38] <mate|62296> hello
[22:39] <mate|62296> can you help me
[22:39] <mate|62296> hello communtiy can you help be me problem
[22:40] <mate|62296> i have problem
[22:41] <mate|62296> be my headphone
[22:41] <Astro7467> !ask | mate|62296
[22:45] <linux_> Hey all... I had sound working and now it doesn't. Any tips on troubleshooting?
[22:45] <mate|62296> yes
[22:46] <linux_> Awesome! Any help is appreciated.
[22:47] <linux_> still there?
[22:48] <mate|62296> as Awesome! Any help is appreciated. ??
[22:51] <mate|62296> sorry
[22:54] <mate|21493> hello
[22:54] <mate|21493> can you help be my headphone
[22:55] <mate|21493> my headphone will not play
[23:06] <DarkPsydeLord> ??
[23:09] <Astro7467> mate|21493: what hv you tried? ur setup? hv you changed the output device in Pulse audio? pls provide specific info if you want help
[23:10] <mate|21493> can you help software for the headphone
[23:12] <DarkPsydeLord> where you from?
[23:13] <mate|21493> i will software me headphone