[22:57] <edbian> sizzlefire, It's probably going by UID not by username.  Try changing the permissions to 777 in windows then come back to ubuntu and see if you can change them (or do things to the files)
[22:57] <angelox_123> only internal audio analog...
[22:57] <sedeki> there is no theme manager in Administration -> Login screen
[22:57] <angelox_123> only that
[22:57] <sedeki> all guides says there is, but there is none
[22:57] <Jake2|cfl> bastidrazor: aren't there other things like linux-headers etc etc too?
[22:58] <xrdodrx> sedeki, you may want to check out http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[22:58] <bastidrazor> Jake2|cfl: you can select to 'completely remove' to get everything associated with a specific kernel
[22:58] <xrdodrx> I use it to change some aspects of my login screen
[22:58] <sizzlefire> edbian: I can already do things to the files, its only encountering errors when im trying to allow apache to access
[22:58] <xrdodrx> :)
[22:58] <Jake2|cfl> bastidrazor: ok thx
[22:58] <sizzlefire> then this happens: http://files3.llarchive.com
[22:58] <sacarlson> pcfreak30: try killall man;  apt-get reinstall man-db
[22:58] <angelox_123> i tried edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf but nothing
[22:58] <jaguar_> take a breath
[22:58] <jaguar_> open the window
[22:59] <edbian> sizzlefire, mmm, I see.  Yeah try changing them in windows and see what happens
[22:59] <Jake2|cfl> bastidrazor:  oh, and this purges--not just "uninstalls" but leaves the files?
[22:59] <jaguar_> and look if your computer have wingd
[22:59] <pcfreak30> sacarlson, killall man;  apt-get reinstall man-db
[22:59] <nOStahl> hey guys I have a problem with network-manager it shows full signal bars for all of my wifi networks in the area with the stock wifi module in the eee pc 901, but if I plug in any other wifi adapter it shows the signal strength
[22:59] <pcfreak30> sacarlson, ugg
[22:59] <sizzlefire> edbian: alright i will, thatll take a minute cause i gotta move it lol
[22:59] <pcfreak30> sacarlson, E: Invalid operation reinstall
[22:59] <laughter> hey ubuntu my login is set on automatic and when my session logs in, i am asked twice to unlock the key ring.  anyway i can make it only ask me once?
[22:59] <edbian> sizzlefire, For what it's worth you're doing the right thing by changing the permissions
[23:00] <mandad> bonsoir
[23:00] <bastidrazor> Jake2|cfl: completely remove will not leave any file. you will be given a list of files to be removed.
[23:01] <Jake2|cfl> bastidrazor: just what I want to do. tx
[23:01] <famrn> that's gsick
[23:01] <djobbito> jhi guys, I have a test question for a little assestment, could help me!!???
[23:01] <djobbito> Server A is trying to communicate using TCP to port 1812 on Server B but Server A can’t establish a connection. Troubleshoot….
[23:01] <angelox_123> any idea?
[23:01] <sacarlson> pcfreak30: I guess it's apt-get install --reinstall ?
[23:01] <nOStahl> hey guys I have a problem with network-manager it shows full signal bars for all of my wifi networks in the area with the stock wifi module in the eee pc 901, but if I plug in any other wifi adapter it shows the signal strength
[23:02] <magpiie> all i am getting when i open a game in wine is a blue screen, can someone advise? I have tried with direct 3d pixel shader selected and not selected but still the same issue
[23:02] <sacarlson> pcfreak30: I normaly use synaptic
[23:02] <sizzlefire> edbian: yeah, i figured
[23:03] <sedeki> xrdodrx, no ubuntu tweak did not help at all. was it a bad joke? all i want is to install a gdm theme
[23:04] <sacarlson> pcfreak30: oh and now I found this deb http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org maverick main   that's not lucid
[23:04] <djobbito> nobody for my question??
[23:04] <sacarlson> pcfreak30: so I'm not sure how much damage that can cause
[23:04] <bastidrazor> djobbito: maybe trying ##networking
[23:04] <angelox_123> and for me question?
[23:04] <xrdodrx> sedeki, err, no, it wasn't a bad joke. You can use it to change your login screen's background and your icon. If that's not what you meant by theme, sorry. :(
[23:05] <daniel> how do i get to another chat window ( i am in #ubuntu i would like to enter the one called ##LIQUID
[23:05] <erUSUL> daniel: /join ##LIQUID
[23:05] <sedeki> xrdodrx, no i cannot. where?
[23:05] <sacarlson> pcfreak30: in most cases you should NOT mix version and if you do just do it on a single app and remove the repository to keep from breaking things in the future
[23:06] <Irreducibilis> Can someone recommend a linux app that is similar to MS paint, just for simple crappy edits or drawings -- lightweight and simple
[23:06] <Irreducibilis> I asked this already but I couldn't find the two suggested
[23:06] <trism> Irreducibilis: gpaint
[23:06] <xrdodrx> sedeki, Startup > Login Settings
[23:07] <magpiie> ok, the game is now working in wine, but all i am getting is memmory errors now, advise please?
[23:07] <sedeki> xrdodrx, i don't have that!!
[23:07] <daniel> does anyone know how to get flash updated with chromium i run 32 bit would love to know how this is been not letting me update for past couple of days
[23:08] <gordonjcp> the volume control just shows as a speaker symbol and three lines, and doesn't actually do anything
[23:08] <gordonjcp> how can I get it to actually control the volume?
[23:08] <sacarlson> pcfreak30: I'm also not sure what this is deb http://badgerports.org lucid main  what apps does that bring in?
[23:09] <pcfreak30> sacarlson, oh that was mono/monodevelop
[23:09] <byuu> I have "Intel Corp. Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller (rev05)" Device ID 840b, and it does not attach to any kernel modules. Is there a way I can force this to use snd-hda-intel kernel module?
[23:09] <xrdodrx> sedeki, this pic might help you find it: http://i.imgur.com/1Q3Hx.png
[23:09] <sedeki> i don't have that in my menues
[23:10] <xrdodrx> sedeki, have what? Ubuntu tweak?
[23:10] <xrdodrx> Did you install it?
[23:10] <sedeki> yes!
[23:10] <sacarlson> pcfreak30: well I'm more concerned with the deb http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org maverick  what was that for?
[23:10] <casey> For some reason my CCSM won't show any new chages made. My wobbly windows works just fine but all others don't update. Any clues on what this can be?
[23:10] <amh345> if i can ssh into a server, should i also be able to scp into it?
[23:10] <sedeki> let me try to install from apt
[23:10] <sedeki> with apt
[23:10] <pcfreak30> sacarlson, it kinda says it in the url. the tor...
[23:10] <sedeki> instead of that link you gave me
[23:11] <sedeki> nope
[23:11] <casey> For some reason my CCSM won't show any new chages made. My wobbly windows works just fine but all others don't update. Any clues on what this can be?
[23:11] <xrdodrx> sedeki, press Alt+F2 and type "ubuntu-tweak" and hit enter
[23:12] <shcherbak> amh345: scp? Depense which side and are you behind router.
[23:12] <daniel> does anyone know how to get flash updated with chromium i run 32 bit would love to know how this is been not letting me update for past couple of days
[23:12] <casey> For some reason my CCSM won't show any new chages made. My wobbly windows works just fine but all others don't update. Any clues on what this can be?
[23:12] <BernardV> amh345: Yes, if you can ssh you can scp
[23:12] <sedeki> xrdodrx, it isn't in the ubuntu-tweak menus, get it?
[23:12] <amh345> BernardV: i keep getting permission denied.   scp ~/my_file user@host
[23:13] <sizzlefire> edbian: i fixed it
[23:13] <xrdodrx> sedeki, hmm, odd :(
[23:13] <xrdodrx> sedeki, it really should be there
[23:13] <casey> For some reason my CCSM won't show any new chages made. My wobbly windows works just fine but all others don't update. Any clues on what this can be?
[23:13] <BernardV> amh345: scp ~/my_file user@host:~/
[23:13] <BernardV> after host: you specify the target folder on the server
[23:13] <angelox_123> any idea?
[23:13] <angelox_123> help
[23:13] <casey> For some reason my CCSM won't show any new chages made. My wobbly windows works just fine but all others don't update. Any clues on what this can be?
[23:14] <aguitel> casey, you are in gnome?
[23:14] <casey> yes I am
[23:14] <casey> ubuntu meerkat
[23:14] <amh345> BernardV: that returns scp: /~: Permission denied
[23:14] <casey> *sp probably
[23:14] <aguitel> casey, you have fusion-icon?
[23:14] <casey> I'm not sure
[23:14] <casey> how can i check?
[23:14] <BernardV> amh345: If you login with ssh and try 'touch my_file' does it work or give you a permission denied?
[23:14] <aguitel> casey, in the bar icon blue
[23:14] <djobbito> help guys:
[23:14] <djobbito> Server A is trying to communicate using TCP to port 1812 on Server B but Server A can’t establish a connection. Troubleshoot….
[23:15] <casey> Nope, i don't seem to have it.
[23:15] <amh345> BernardV: the file doesnt exist on the server yet.
[23:15] <aguitel> casey, make:aptitude install fusion-icon
[23:15] <BernardV> amh345: I know, but do you have write permissions on the server?
[23:15] <aguitel> casey, with sudo
[23:15] <amh345> BernardV: Touch my_file returns a new line
[23:15] <sacarlson> pcfreak30: well from what I see it seems it should be harmless but it seems you didn't follow the instructions?  with this https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en  it showed you deb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org <DISTRIBUTION> main   meaning replace <?> with yours in this case lucid
[23:15] <Travk> djobbito: #networking
[23:15] <joeb_> this is probably a dumb question . i installed two dependencies that where .deb files .. i lost the .deb files .. i see the dependancies in my  system .. there a way to back them up in case i need to reinstall or should i just to download the .debs again ?
[23:16] <casey> it said command not found
[23:16] <casey> so I would literally type sudo aptitude install fusion-icon
[23:16] <BernardV> amh345: And if correct there is a file created with the name my_file
[23:16] <aguitel> casey, yes
[23:16] <casey> or am i mistaken?
[23:16] <djobbito> what do you mean by ##networking
[23:16] <casey> hmmmmm
[23:16] <casey> didn't work for some reason?
[23:16] <casey> let me try again
[23:16] <noscript4i> Anyone know how to reset the wlan0 address if i replaced/removed it through ifconfig (Xubuntu 10.04 LTS) ?
[23:16] <aguitel> ok
[23:16] <amh345> BernardV: oh, neat.  yes. my_File was createrd
[23:17] <casey> yeah it didn't work :(
[23:17] <erUSUL> noscript4i: ip address?
[23:17] <BernardV> amh345: ok, then you have write permissions :) You can delete this file
[23:17] <aguitel> casey, do:sudo aptitude update
[23:17] <noscript4i> erUSUL, i used a "ifconfig wlan0 add ...." and it failed that way
[23:17] <casey> ok, i'll try that :)
[23:17] <noscript4i> to connect to the accesspoint
[23:17] <tom23342> I want to install KDE Desktop Environment, I'm in the Synaptic Package Manager, but there's 3 different fields with bunches of packages in each one. Which one is it?
[23:17] <amh345> BernardV: but i still cant scp :(
[23:17] <Travk> djobbito: That's a bit of an off-topic question for the ubuntu chatroom, the networking room would be more suited to your question.
[23:17] <iceroot> noscript4i: you want iwconfig
[23:17] <casey> it said command not found
[23:17] <erUSUL> noscript4i: usually you get it via dhcp fro the Access point
[23:17] <sacarlson> pcfreak30: so maybe fix that and try again
[23:17] <BernardV> amh345: And are you sure you have read permissions on the local file and have the rights to execute scp ?
[23:18] <erUSUL> noscript4i: sudo dhclient wlan0
[23:18] <aguitel> casey, you installed ubuntu when?
[23:18] <Ampelbein> tom23342: simply install the package 'kubuntu-desktop'
[23:18] <noscript4i> erUSUL, i wish i knew that before i reinstalled =/
[23:18] <casey> I installed it about a week ago.
[23:18] <noscript4i> oh well XD
[23:18] <casey> so it's the newest version.
[23:18] <aguitel> casey, and it works?
[23:18] <casey> Works fine for me.
[23:18] <casey> No problems i can think of.
[23:18] <erUSUL> noscript4i: why not use network manager?
[23:18] <djobbito> thks... actually I am trying to find the networking chat room, I cant find it
[23:18] <aguitel> casey, you update the system?
[23:18] <casey> Other than being incredibly slow with dock programs.
[23:19] <casey> I just did an update today actually.
[23:19] <amh345> BernardV: i have permissions. tried sudo as well.   still getting Permission Deneid.
[23:19] <Travk> djobbito: should just be able to type /join #networking
[23:19] <tom23342> Ampelbein, thankyou
 I got it tks
[23:19] <Travk> :)
[23:19] <noscript4i> erUSUL, im not that smart at times... i tried to put a "set" IP address, but did not know that it wouldnt work anymore.... (wireless works fine now due to reinstall... DUAL BOOT NOW ^_^
[23:20] <searching> MT882 usb driver ?
[23:20] <shcherbak> amh345: are you - from local machine: scp <local file> remote.host:/path/to/new/file/ if not how you do it?
[23:20] <searching> :)))
[23:20] <BernardV> amh345: scp my_file user@host:/tmp/ ?
[23:20] <casey> any clue on what I should do now?
[23:20] <amh345> BernardV: ill try :/tmp/
[23:21] <amh345> BernardV: :/tmp/ worked!
[23:21] <amh345> thank you
[23:21] <daniel> does anyone know how to get flash updated with chromium i run 32 bit would love to know how this is been not letting me update for past couple of days
[23:21] <sherkeunan> french?
[23:21] <joeb_> meh
[23:21] <erUSUL> !fr
[23:21] <BernardV> amh345: Then there is a permission issue on the server or you don't have a home folder you can use like ~/
[23:21] <sherkeunan> someone speak french?
[23:21] <overclucker> amh345: are you trying to upload to yor home directory on a remote host?
[23:22] <amh345> BernardV: ill have a look into that.
[23:22] <amh345> overclucker: i though ~/ would be my home since the user is ubunutu and the home is ubuntu/
[23:22] <splashote> any idea what to do about "device descriptor read/8 error -110"
[23:22] <splashote> or "unable to enumerate USB device on Port "
[23:22] <overclucker> amh345: have tried using an absolute path like /home/ubuntu ?
[23:23] <magpiie_> i keep getting access violation messages whenever i try to lauch WoW in wine, can someone advise please
[23:23] <needlez> hi, i have a realtek 8191SEvB I was wondering if there is a way to get this card to do monitor mode correctly or not?? when I put it in to monitor mode it says wlan0 reset or mon0: fatal , not sure why or how I can get monitor to work
[23:24] <needlez> magpiie: have you installed with winetricks??
[23:24] <magpiie_> yes, winetricks is installed
[23:24] <amh345> overclucker. i havent yet. i will try that now
[23:25] <piotr> ania
[23:26] <needlez> magpiie_: and you chmod'ed the file correctly to run it right??
[23:27] <magpiie_> chmod'ed?
[23:27] <joeb_> ok i have a .deb right i did a dpkg --extract file.deb .. i don't see the dependancies in there .. how does ubuntu know where to locate the dependancies
[23:27] <needlez> sudo chmod 777 the .exe file so it can be ran
[23:27] <bastidrazor> joeb_: for the 2nd day in a row.. dpkg does not know.
[23:27] <Travk> magpiee_: chmod +x /home/<user>/.wine/drive_c/etc etc etc
[23:28] <sam555> hello all!
[23:28] <joeb_> bastidrazor- apt does though right ?
[23:28] <magpiie_> the game starts up, the menu screen appears, i click play, the indro video will play fully, but as soon as the login char screen tries to start, i get the error messages
[23:28] <joeb_> bastidrazor- im just reading a lot of guides and stuff .. my bad trying to sort out everything so i don't have to ask again
[23:28] <magpiie_> direct 3d is enabled
[23:28] <bastidrazor> joeb_: you have the answer that question as well.
[23:28] <sam555> how can one tell which version of mysql I'm running using a command in a shell?
[23:29] <searching> mysql -v
[23:29] <Travk> magpiie_: that sounds like one of the database files for the game has incorrect permissions. I would check the owner of the files. (or do a sweeping change.. chown -R <user> /home/<user>/.wine)
[23:29] <searching> or mysql and help
[23:29] <needlez> magpiie_: what is the error exactly??
[23:30] <theprototype> Hi. Can i install ubuntu to my external HDD and use it on another machine with no problems ?
[23:30] <magpiie_> gimme a sec, i will put a link up with the error message
[23:30] <tom23342> What's the difference between GDM and KDM Environments?
[23:30] <needlez> magpiie: also which version of wine??
[23:30] <angelox_123> kdm is for KDE
[23:31] <angelox_123> gdm is for GNOME
[23:31] <angelox_123> basically
[23:31] <tom23342> Ah, thanks.
[23:32] <magpiie_> wine 1.2.2 is the version, this is a link to the terminal error codes that come up http://codepad.org/VbAgc2QN
[23:33] <theprototype> can i atleast get a yes or no to my question ? =)
[23:33] <ctjctj> I have been using LDAP+NFS4 for over a year now.  Now at 2.6.35-25-generic #44-Ubuntu idmapd has stopped doing name to id translations.  rpc.idmapd -vvv -f (with verbose=10 in idpmapd.conf) does not show anything happening.  How the heck do I debug this darn idmapd?
[23:34] <Travk> theprototype: If you installed it on an external drive (I will assume USB) you can boot form it as long as the BIOS for the host computer allows booting to a USB drive.
[23:34] <needlez> magpiie_: have you tried to reload your drivers for your graphics card? also is it ATI??
[23:34] <captn-brb> anyone happen to know what port ps3mediaserver listens on for web config?
[23:35] <theprototype> Travk Thanks. I guessed as much. Now will ubuntu work with different hardware that was used at the time of installation ?
[23:35] <sam555> searching: thanks!
[23:35] <magpiie_> not sure, its an asus laptop, how do i re load drivers? the graphics card is working fine, i followed the steps on the wow ubuntu site. bare with me though, i am only recently on board the ubuntu train
[23:36] <Travk> theprototype: I did something similar once, it seemed to work fairly well; I had a few issues with audio drivers, but Ubuntu was able to retrieve the proper kernel modules and I was up and running.
[23:36] <searching> sam555 ok
[23:36] <captnmorgen> oops wrong window sorry :)
[23:37] <theprototype> Travk Sounds workable. Only reason i ask is because i installed Backtrack 4 (Which is what i would like to use) to my external, and it messed up GRUB to where i could only boot in to windows. Ubuntu was in quotations for some reason... even unplugging the external didn't help
[23:38] <sacarlson> theprototype: how about maybe or probubly,  I've installed ubuntu loader on usb flash and it has worked on many systems
[23:38] <madfox> theprototype, perhaps you should learn to use ubuntu and linux better before going for a specialized distro
[23:38] <needlez> magpiie: let me suggest something, maybe you should update wine to 1.3.6 and try to reinstall WoW with that version, seems that I'm finding alot of issues with the older wine, I use 1.3.6 to run starcraft2
[23:38] <Travk> theprototype: If unplugging it didn't work it sounds like grub's boot loader was installed onto the physical hard drive not the portable one.
[23:39] <needlez> hi, i have a realtek 8191SEvB I was wondering if there is a way to get this card to do monitor mode correctly or not?? when I put it in to monitor mode it says wlan0 reset or mon0: fatal , not sure why or how I can get monitor to work
[23:39] <magpiie_> needlez< cheers mate, will try it now thanks
[23:39] <theprototype> madfox i agree. but i also think that jumping in to the water is the best way to learn how to swim, thanks.
[23:40] <ctjctj> Anybody have suggestions on how to debug nfs4/rpc.idmapd?  I'm getting nothing but nobodies even though rpc.idmapd is running on both client and server and it was working recently but has now stopped working.
[23:40] <madfox> theprototype, and yet security isn't like water :P
[23:40] <needlez> magpiie_: np, and if that fails come back and let me know what the issues are with the other wine, and ill see what else i can do
[23:40] <magpiie_> cheers
[23:40] <theprototype> madfox yet reading in between the lines would've gave clues that i wasn't talking about water
[23:40] <sacarlson> theprototype: I like to try them all but on virtualbox in most cases
[23:41] <madfox> theprototype, same to you
[23:42] <theprototype> sacarlson i have. backtrack 4 in a virtual enviro gives me issues with my RTL8187L drivers (turns it off) so i want to install to HDD
[23:42] <theprototype> i'll switch it up since bt is off topic
[23:42] <hiexpo> hey guys i changed my plymouth logo in ubuntu lucid now when it boots it starts than goes blank how do i fix this
[23:43] <theprototype> madfox but yea, thats why i want to triple boot Win7, Ubuntu, and BT4, ubuntu is for newbies, BT4 is more advanced, i want to play with both. Can't blame me for that =)
[23:44] <hiexpo> hey guys i changed my Plymouth logo in Ubuntu lucid now when it boots it starts than goes blank how do i fix this
[23:44] <histo> !splash | hiexpo
[23:45] <theprototype> Travk that makes perfect sense. So when i install ubuntu to my external. When i choose the advanced install option, and it asks me about mount points, i should set the /boot to the external HDD to fix my issue, correct ??
[23:45] <hiexpo> oh itflashes the plymouth but no log in screen
[23:45] <needlez> hiexpo: what did you use to change the plymouth boot screen??
[23:45] <histo> !plymouth | hiexpo
[23:45] <madfox> theprototype, I can considering bt was meant for people who already know what they are doing, not for people who are just learning :P
[23:46] <theprototype> madfox yea well computer are meant for people that have half a brain but 99 percent of the world has one, dont they
[23:46] <hiexpo> needlez, i used the the command   > shoot don't rem but selected  number 8
[23:46] <keith27> anyone know of a free fax from the internet service?
[23:47] <remlabm> trying to install with out a cdrom drive. everything goes fine until the installer pops this error : incorrect cdrom detected. i have tried the f6 esc to enter the extra param but i dont think im doing it in the right place... anyone able to help?
[23:47] <theprototype> madfox besides, if it comes preloaded with the type of pentesting software it does, it actually is good for a newbie, because they dont have to go through the trouble of compiling, installing, etc
[23:47] <madfox> theprototype, no computers were meant to do useful work with varying degrees of sophistication to match the need
[23:47] <hiexpo> i just don't get login now
[23:47] <histo> remlabm: what are you trying to install from usb?
[23:47] <remlabm> ubuntu 10.04 server
[23:47] <famrn> http://www.gsick.com/gnome/
[23:47] <abstrakt> is there something better than ssh-agent for managing your public/private keys?
[23:48] <madfox> theprototype, compiling and installing is better for the newbie then having everything pre-built
[23:48] <needlez> hiexpo: I would suggest you go install plymouth manager and do it that way, to get back your screen, I don't remember why but i kno that I couldn't use the command to actually change the boot screen
[23:48] <histo> remlabm: verify the iso with md5sum and make sure you didn't get a derped file
[23:48] <theprototype> madfox this is the stupidest debate i've ever had. if you have a problem with people asking questions on a newbie level and you want to make comments about it, make a channel for it
[23:48] <abstrakt> like what if I have lots of different servers, and I have a different pair of keys for each server
[23:48] <remlabm> k will redownload
[23:48] <ctjctj> Does anybody have a pointer to a channel that would have information on debugging NFS4/rpc.idmapd issues (running under ubuntu)
[23:48] <needlez> theprototype: hey what is the problem your having??
[23:48] <hiexpo> needlez, i did it that way but now i cant get login screen to fix it so how do i fix it now can't log in it
[23:48] <histo> remlabm: no need to redouwnload but I would verify the one you have
[23:48] <Random832> can virtualbox run a 64bit guest on a 32bit host?
[23:49] <needlez> hiexpo: you could hold shift when it boots and boot into recovery then reload gdm login
[23:49] <hiexpo> ok thanks needlez  i will try
[23:49] <needlez> kk
[23:49] <theprototype> madfox i originally asked if i could install ubuntu to an external without having issues, and mentioned i originally tried BT4 on the usb external and it messed my GRUB options up, even after unplugging. Travk informed me this was most likely because the /boot was set to the internal HDD instead of the External
[23:50] <madfox> theprototype, no need to get all madders, simply stating your problem would easily be fixed if you focused your energy in a better direction first :P
[23:50] <remlabm> histo: md5 checks fine
[23:50] <ajay> hmm, smuxi seems to want to autojoin me to this! interesting..
[23:51] <yuskhanzab> yuskhanzab,
[23:51] <histo> remlabm: there shouldn't be a cdrom error. can you verify the md5 of the thumbdrive you put it on
[23:51] <histo> !md5 | remlabm
[23:52] <casey> I'm back
[23:52] <casey> aguitel
[23:52] <theprototype> madfox my direction, ATM, is learning aircrack. it comes preinstalled on BT4 and works well with it. Works on ubuntu as well with IW installed, but thats not the point. You assumed i was getting ahead of myself.
[23:52] <casey> how do i send you a message personally lol
[23:52] <theprototype> needlez i originally asked if i could install ubuntu to an external without having issues, and mentioned i originally tried BT4 on the usb external and it messed my GRUB options up, even after unplugging. Travk informed me this was most likely because the /boot was set to the internal HDD instead of the External
[23:53] <madfox> theprototype, you are getting ahead of youreself, your point?
[23:53] <Benn> hey guys few guys from #ubuntu send me here
[23:54] <magpiie_> ok, another problem when i download the wine 1.3 zip file, it is not showing up in my downloads folder, even though that is the place it is downloading too. How do i view hidden files and folders? i did it once but have forgotton how :(
[23:54] <rww> to #ubuntu?
[23:54] <theprototype> madfox are u here to help or get the chip off your shoulder? get it off or help, its annoying, considering u don't know anything about my previous knowledge of computers or networking =)
[23:54] <madfox> Benn, awesome :)
[23:54] <Benn> yeah
[23:54] <aeon-ltd> magpiie: it varies from file manager to fm, but its usually in 'view'
[23:54] <madfox> theprototype, you said you were just learning, all I really need to know.
[23:54] <Benn> well i am using windows and ubuntu and the sound is not working in none of those operating systems...
[23:55] <needlez> theprototype: your should just try to run it ubuntu, it will be easier, but either way youll need to install a different version of aircrack-ng the svn version.  The reason for this is that there is an issue which assigns the mon0 interface to channel -1 which wont allow you to monitor or do injection, so youll need that modified version which allows for --ignore -negative-one.
[23:55] <theprototype> made no sense why you would need to know that, but ok...
[23:55] <Narc> Hello all. I'm testing Firefox 4 on Maverick (downloaded at Mozilla, no PPA) and fonts are not properly anti-aliased. Anybody know a fix ? Thanks.
[23:56] <madfox> theprototype, I didn't need it, but it's all I need to know about youre previous knowledge and experience.
[23:56] <needlez> theprototype: you could run bt4 but it has the old version of aircrack-ng in it with the -1 issue from what I remember thats why I use ubuntu
[23:56] <ZombieRamen> can anyone help me use ecryptfs-migrate-home -u USER for an existing user?
[23:56] <magpiie_> ok i see the problem, for some reason it has downloafded to a folder called download and not to the downloads folder, i dont get how, but when i right click on the open downloads window in firefox, it sends me to the download folder and not the downloads folder
[23:56] <theprototype> needlez yea i've solved the channel problem. i just want to know how to get ubuntu on my external without it effing up the GRUB on my internal. I'm guessing to fix that, apply the /boot to my external?
[23:57] <Andy2113> hey guys I have a problem. I did my system upgrades to keep my system up to date, and now my flash player messes up. It crashes a lot, and the videos are orange/red when they should be normal. Can I remove this version of flash and install the one I had earlier?
[23:57] <Benn> myyy sound is not working
[23:57] <Benn> why??
[23:57] <ZombieRamen> Benn: what application?
[23:57] <madfox> !sound | Benn
[23:57] <theprototype> needlez yea, using ubuntu is how i fixed the -1 channel issue
[23:58] <hiexpo> ok i got back in needlez  here is what i did to change it installed plymouth in repos first than ran this command sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth and picked the logo i wanted
[23:58] <ZombieRamen> can anyone help me use ecryptfs-migrate-home -u USER for an existing user?
[23:58] <hiexpo> than had that prob
[23:59] <Benn> Thankss!!i will check it out!!
[23:59] <needlez> theprototype: not sure, you could add the externel drives mount point to fstab, then give it like a real area to mount to, or you could just install it and give it a boot point in / or something like that, not really sure since I run only one system
[23:59] <coz_> ZombieRamen,   did you by chance read this?   http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/Ecryptfs


[13:31] <didrocks> cpaelzer_: FYI, I will be away during the MIR meeting (and then, in another meeting), so I will only be able to catch up after an hour post-meeting or so
[13:50] <cpaelzer_> didrocks: ok, thanks
[13:50] <cpaelzer_> didrocks: do you have capacity to get a review assigned?
[14:30] <luis220413> o/
[14:30] <slyon> o/
[14:30] <sarnold> good morning
[14:30] <cpaelzer_> hello
[14:30] <joalif> o/
[14:31] <slyon> luis220413: hey there! FYI: I just re-sponsored your old debdiff on bug #1969734 ;-)
[14:31] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1969734 in openconnect (Ubuntu Jammy) "[Jammy] NetworkManager-openconnect 1.2.6 not compatible with openconnect 8.20" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1969734
[14:31] <cpaelzer_> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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[14:31] <cpaelzer_> Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe )
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
[14:31] <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
[14:31] <dviererbe> o/
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[14:31] <slyon> uh oh! What happened to our -perl tree?
[14:32] <luis220413> s_lyon: thanks
[14:32] <cpaelzer> we removed the dependency
[14:32] <cpaelzer> back to a suggest
[14:32] <cpaelzer> as it won't be in time for 23.10
[14:32] <cpaelzer> I can't force sarnold to review 50 in 2 weeks
[14:32] <sarnold> \o/
[14:32] <dviererbe> :D
[14:32] <cpaelzer> interestingly independent to that there is one left in the svg
[14:32] <cpaelzer> dkim-perl->cryptx
[14:33] <cpaelzer> that is a mismatch even with that reduced to a suggest
[14:33] <slyon> but that's desktop's perl tree, not server's
[14:33] <cpaelzer> that is true
[14:33] <cpaelzer> and, other than the old
[14:34] <cpaelzer> it is only in -proposed
[14:34] <cpaelzer> and therefore fine
[14:34] <luis220413> What binaries from src:rustc are depending on binaries from src:fonts-nanum, src:fonts-open-sans and src:highlight.js?
[14:34] <cpaelzer> the whole former stack already did migrate because it was only recommends
[14:34] <cpaelzer> which surprising to me, recommends conflicts only - do not block proposed
[14:34] <slyon> luis220413: that's rust-doc
[14:34] <cpaelzer> -doc usually should go to excludes
[14:35] <cpaelzer> it is auto-included, but quite often it is ok to just exclude the -doc
[14:35] <luis220413> What is excludes?
[14:35] <slyon> luis220413: Extra-Excludes is part of the seeds: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement/
[14:35] <luis220413> OK
[14:35] <cpaelzer> thank you for answering quicker slyon :-)
[14:35] <slyon> to deny-list certain binary packages
[14:36] <cpaelzer> luis220413: you'll see plenty of similar cases in the git history
[14:36] <cpaelzer> https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu
[14:36] <cpaelzer> now, let us look at the mismatches once more
[14:36] <cpaelzer> jaraco - openstack is aware
[14:36] <cpaelzer> rust -> fonts we just discussed
[14:37] <cpaelzer> libmail-dkim-perl and others - would need Desktop activity if urgent
[14:37] <slyon> wrt rustc component-mismatch. We got the security +1 \o/ So we need didrocks to check the latest comments and let us know if he's fine with that to unblock the MIR
[14:37] <cpaelzer> seb128: ^^ is that important to you?
[14:37] <eslerm> o/
[14:37] <slyon> (well.. cargo MIR, that is. Which is combined with src:rustc)
[14:37] <cpaelzer> he mentioned that he will be unavailable now, but will re-read the log
[14:37] <seb128> which one?
[14:37] <cpaelzer> seb128: https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:38] <cpaelzer> seb128: libmail-dkim-perl is on desktop in http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/m-r-package-team-mapping.html
[14:38] <cpaelzer> 2/3 dependencies are already approved from being in main in the past
[14:38] <seb128> I will investigate, I'm not familiar with it
[14:39] <cpaelzer> that is enough for now, thanks seb128
[14:39] <seb128> I (wrongly) assumed that was part of the perl stack being discussed in previous meeting
[14:39] <seb128> sorry about that
[14:39] <cpaelzer> it was maybe hidden in there
[14:39] <cpaelzer> but we had to opt out of this for 23.10 as no one can do so many reviews in time
[14:40] <cpaelzer> so that is what is left visible for the time being
[14:40] <cpaelzer> probably by a sync from debian
[14:40] <cpaelzer> I'd go on with the agenda then
[14:40] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
[14:40] <cpaelzer> Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing
[14:40] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:40] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vpnc-scripts/+bug/1987571
[14:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1987571 in vpnc-scripts (Ubuntu) "[MIR] vpnc-scripts" [Undecided, New]
[14:40] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/stoken/+bug/1987448
[14:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1987448 in stoken (Ubuntu) "[MIR] stoken" [Undecided, New]
[14:41] <slyon> (I cannot take any MIR reviews today, as I'll be out for an extended leave soon, with no "distro day" left)
[14:41] <cpaelzer> yeah
[14:41] <cpaelzer> and I'm crushed by "until end of cycle" high level duties
[14:41] <eslerm> does stoken actually have an owning team?
[14:41] <luis220413> slyon: Until when?
[14:41] <luis220413> eslerm: No
[14:41] <slyon> I'll be back for release week, early October
[14:41] <eslerm> Luis is back from suspension
[14:42] <cpaelzer> eslerm: and he suggested Desktop
[14:42] <luis220413> Nor vpnc-scripts
[14:42] <sarnold> (welcome back :)
[14:43] <cpaelzer> I think we need seb128 or anyone else to officially say "yes we'd take it" on stoken + vpnc-scripts
[14:43] <cpaelzer> otherwise there might be a lot of review efforts for Desktop saying "that wasn't our plan"
[14:43] <eslerm> jbicha has closed other related MIRs which were recently reopened
[14:44] <luis220413> Specifically bug 1986592 and bug 1987446
[14:44] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1986592 in network-manager-openconnect (Ubuntu) "[MIR] network-manager-openconnect" [Low, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1986592
[14:44] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1987446 in openconnect (Ubuntu) "[MIR] openconnect" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1987446
[14:44] <seb128> cpaelzer, I'm also not familiar with those, I will review/consider but I doubt we are interested by those or wanting to commit to maintain them
[14:44] <luis220413> Bug 1986592 is the main one, with the rationale for promoting this set of packages
[14:44] <seb128> it's not for this cycle for sure
[14:45] <luis220413> Then for 24.04?
[14:45] <jbicha> luis220413: comment 2 on 1986592 is significant
[14:45] <cpaelzer> I think we can leave "having a look and discussion" to you both
[14:46] <seb128> yes
[14:46] <cpaelzer> and go on here
[14:47] <cpaelzer> I've assigned them to you and left a comment why
[14:47] <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[14:47] <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
[14:47] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:47] <cpaelzer> there  is the whole openconnect topic we just handled
[14:48] <cpaelzer> including https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openconnect/+bug/1986592 which jbicha referred to
[14:48] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1986592 in network-manager-openconnect (Ubuntu) "[MIR] network-manager-openconnect" [Low, Incomplete]
[14:48] <cpaelzer> nothing to act on those for the MIR team
[14:48] <cpaelzer> then https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-reportlab/+bug/2028054
[14:48] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2028054 in hplip (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-rlpycairo" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[14:48] <cpaelzer> has found an unexpected solution, will be revisited if it causes issues
[14:49] <cpaelzer> then https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dotnet6/+bug/2023531
[14:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2023531 in dotnet6 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] dotnet6" [Undecided, Incomplete]
[14:49] <cpaelzer> with some back and forther around the discontinue support in LTS
[14:49] <slyon> +1 and thanks for that (wrt python-reportlab)
[14:49] <cpaelzer> notinth to act for us either
[14:49] <dviererbe> I had an SRU exception for a few minutes :/
[14:49] <cpaelzer> hehe
[14:49] <cpaelzer> then https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cargo/+bug/1993819
[14:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1993819 in dh-cargo (Ubuntu) "[MIR] cargo, dh-cargo" [High, In Progress]
[14:49] <cpaelzer> which we handled above, waiting for didrocks to confirm if all is completed
[14:49] <slyon> this is for didrocks to look into ^ (as was said earlier)
[14:49] <cpaelzer> then https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pappl-retrofit/+bug/2031814
[14:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2031814 in pappl-retrofit (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pappl-retrofit" [Undecided, Incomplete]
[14:50] <cpaelzer> got a MIR review
[14:50] <slyon> I NACKed this today...
[14:50] <cpaelzer> back to Till to rethink
[14:50] <slyon> It's not needed for this cycle, though.
[14:50] <cpaelzer> ok and last but not least
[14:50] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aom/+bug/2004442
[14:50] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2004442 in aom (Ubuntu) "[MIR] aom (dependency of libheif)" [Undecided, Incomplete]
[14:50] <cpaelzer> has todo's left open
[14:50] <cpaelzer> ok
[14:50] <slyon> just a tracking update, showing some progress from our (foundations) side
[14:50] <cpaelzer> that was a lot of "incompletes with updates"
[14:51] <cpaelzer> but all fine in regard to "not waiting to be unblocked by us"
[14:51] <cpaelzer> #topic Process/Documentation improvements
[14:51] <cpaelzer> Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues
[14:51] <cpaelzer> #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls
[14:51] <cpaelzer> #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues
[14:51] <cpaelzer> FYI I landed the one that was agreed last week and you pinged me on
[14:51] <luis220413> https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues/39
[14:51] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Issue 39 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "Owning team requirement is confusing" [Open]
[14:51] <cpaelzer> I'm not sure we made recent progress to base-sets
[14:52] <cpaelzer> three worth to mention
[14:52] <luis220413> I opened this due to comment 12 to #1986592
[14:52] <luis220413> cpaelzer: Base-sets?
[14:52] <slyon> no. base-sets will be discussed at the next engineering sprint
[14:52] <slyon> (hopefully)
[14:52] <cpaelzer> ok
[14:52] <cpaelzer> so the first to discuss is the one luis220413 linked
[14:52] <cpaelzer> Hmm, ok
[14:52] <cpaelzer> thanks for the report
[14:53] <cpaelzer> this is one of the cases that is clear if you already know it
[14:53] <cpaelzer> The answer is: it is a requirement to have an owning team
[14:53] <cpaelzer> But we need to fix this in the repository
[14:53] <cpaelzer> I can easily write this a bit better and propose a change
[14:54] <cpaelzer> since that will be quick, that should be fine soon
[14:54] <luis220413> cpaelzer: It is a requirement for which stage(s) of the MIR process?
[14:54] <cpaelzer> I'm trying
[14:55] <cpaelzer> luis220413: it is not a requirement to have "the onwing team subscribed" to start the MIR and get the ACK. Oly to get the promotion to main done. But OTOH it is an absolute requitement to "have commitment of a team that will own it" to even enter the process
[14:55] <slyon> luis220413: I guess there are 2 stages: A MIR needs an owning team to be processed AND that team must be subscribed before being promoted by an AA.
[14:56] <slyon> yeah... cpaelzer is probably a bit more detailed
[14:56] <cpaelzer> with time in mind, going on
[14:56] <cpaelzer> https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues/38
[14:56] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Issue 38 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "Externally created branch" [Open]
[14:56] <cpaelzer> dviererbe: I have no idea
[14:56] <dviererbe> I am not sure what to do here; just wanted to let you know that this is weird
[14:57] <cpaelzer> I think that it might not be an external party, but a GH feature we do not know?
[14:57] <cpaelzer> thanks for the report
[14:57] <cpaelzer> question
[14:57] <dviererbe> np
[14:57] <cpaelzer> was https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/36 ready to merge?
[14:57] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 36 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "Add an ask about isolation features" [Open]
[14:57] <cpaelzer> looks that way
[14:57] <cpaelzer> any last need to stop me?
[14:57] <slyon> do it
[14:57] <cpaelzer> done
[14:57] <cpaelzer> and now, time for security
[14:58] <cpaelzer> #topic MIR related Security Review Queue
[14:58] <cpaelzer> Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable?
[14:58] <cpaelzer> Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place.
[14:58] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:58] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:58] <cpaelzer> Internal link
[14:58] <cpaelzer> - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect
[14:58] <cpaelzer> - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much
[14:58] <cpaelzer> #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594
[14:58] <cpaelzer> things keep looking good
[14:58] <cpaelzer> anything of concern sarnold / eslerm that you want to bring up?
[14:58] <sarnold> (especially without a perl tree to tend to :)
[14:58] <cpaelzer> well, we have the first few of the perl tree
[14:58] <cpaelzer> and the rest will come later
[14:58] <cpaelzer> but yes, only root-work now
[14:59] <eslerm> nothing to bring up, I'll push for s390-tools assignment this week
[14:59] <cpaelzer> great
[14:59] <cpaelzer> jfh will be happy to hear that
[14:59] <cpaelzer> in that case
[14:59] <cpaelzer> let me go on
[14:59] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
[14:59] <luis220413> Yes
[14:59] <cpaelzer> nothing from me
[14:59] <sarnold> none here
[14:59] <joalif> none
[14:59] <eslerm> none
[14:59] <cpaelzer> yes = another topic luis220413?
[15:00] <luis220413> cpaelzer: Exactly
[15:00] <slyon> kudos for the security to finish libei review quickly, to unblock the desktop team!
[15:00] <cpaelzer> indeed
[15:00] <eslerm> thanks amurray \o/
[15:00] <luis220413> I would like to have libwpe and wpebackend-fdo promoted to main in Focal to be able to have WebKitGTK 2.40.5 in the official archive
[15:01] <luis220413> I have successfully built it (despite upstream's lack of support) and Yelp works well with it
[15:01] <luis220413> *lack of support for Focal
[15:01] <luis220413> The bugs are bug #1973031 and bug #1973033 (I have not changed them)
[15:01] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1973031 in libwpe (Ubuntu Jammy) "[MIR] libwpe" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1973031
[15:01] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1973033 in wpebackend-fdo (Ubuntu Jammy) "[MIR] wpebackend-fdo" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1973033
[15:01] <jbicha> luis220413: I don't think the *wpe* issue is a blocker for webkitgtk 2.40 reaching Focal
[15:02] <luis220413> Thanks, but I said this because, from 1973031 it appeared that *wpe* would become mandatory for WebKitGTK starting from 2.40
[15:02] <jbicha> however, the Ubuntu Security team currently doesn't plan to release webkitgtk 2.40 to Focal
[15:03] <jbicha> I'm saying there are other issues & webkitgtk support for Focal has reached Security End of Life
[15:03] <jbicha> we can discuss more after this meeting if needed since I don't think this is a MIR team issue now
[15:04] <luis220413> OK
[15:04] <cpaelzer> ok
[15:04] <cpaelzer> in that case
[15:04] <cpaelzer> closing
[15:04] <cpaelzer> thank you all!
[15:05] <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[15:05] <slyon> thanks all! o/
[15:05] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
[15:05] <eslerm> thanks all o/
[15:05] <dviererbe> thanyk you all! o/
[15:05] <luis220413> Thank you all! o/
[15:05] <joalif> thanks all
[15:06] <jbicha> luis220413: if you want to discuss webkitgtk/focal more, I suggest asking in #ubuntu-security
[15:13] <didrocks> cpaelzer: ok, it seems in the end that there is no action outside of cargo for me or anything else I can take?
[15:15] <cpaelzer> no, just cargo AFAIR
[19:00] <rbasak> o/
[19:00] <seb128> o/
[19:01] <seb128> amurray, vorlon, sil2100, around?
[19:01] <sil2100> o/
[19:01] <seb128> great
[19:01] <seb128> let's get started!
[19:01] <seb128> #startmeeting Technical Board
[19:01] <amurray> o/
[19:02] <rbasak> FWIW, I have no progress on my action items to report this week, sorry.
[19:02] <amurray> hey seb128
[19:02] <seb128> same here :-(
[19:02] <seb128> #topic Action Items
[19:02]  * vorlon waves
[19:03] <seb128> ACTION: seb128/amurray/sil200 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage
[19:03] <seb128> I didn't have time to help progressing this so let's carry over
[19:03] <sil2100> +1
[19:04] <seb128> #action seb128/amurray/sil200 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage
[19:04] <meetingology> ACTION: seb128/amurray/sil200 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage
[19:04] <seb128> ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification
[19:05] <seb128> rbasak said he didn't progress his items so carrying over
[19:05] <seb128> #action rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification
[19:05] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification
[19:05] <seb128> ACTION: rbasak to follow up on finding consensus on question of test plans for third party apps
[19:05] <seb128> same
[19:05] <seb128> #action rbasak to follow up on finding consensus on question of test plans for third party apps
[19:05] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak to follow up on finding consensus on question of test plans for third party apps
[19:05] <seb128> ACTION: rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy
[19:05] <seb128> same
[19:05] <seb128> #action rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy
[19:05] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy
[19:05] <seb128> ACTION: seb128 to follow up with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations
[19:05] <seb128> I didn't manage to work on that either
[19:06] <seb128> #action seb128 to follow up with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations
[19:06] <meetingology> ACTION: seb128 to follow up with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations
[19:06] <seb128> ACTION: vorlon to write up draft guidelines for packages in the archive that download from the Internet
[19:06] <seb128> vorlon, ?
[19:06] <vorlon> nothing to report yet, carry over
[19:06] <seb128> #action vorlon to write up draft guidelines for packages in the archive that download from the Internet
[19:06] <meetingology> ACTION: vorlon to write up draft guidelines for packages in the archive that download from the Internet
[19:07] <seb128> #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item)
[19:07] <seb128> #info No recent ML posts
[19:07] <seb128> #topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs
[19:07] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bugs?field.assignee=techboard is empty
[19:08] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/techboard doesn't have anything other that the previously listed action items
[19:08] <seb128> #info No new bugs; existing bugs are all being handled through existing action items
[19:08] <seb128> #topic Select a chair for the next meeting (next from https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members)
[19:09] <seb128> #info Next chair will be vorlon with sil2100 as backup
[19:09] <vorlon> ahhh Seb speed-running the TB meeting ;)
[19:09] <sil2100> +1
[19:09] <vorlon> +1
[19:09] <seb128> #topic AOB
[19:09] <seb128> :p
[19:09] <seb128> any other topic?
[19:09] <vorlon> I can put this on the mailing list if desired, but I'd like to request another variance of the schedule
[19:09] <vorlon> to push the next meeting out to 3 weeks from today instead of 1
[19:09] <vorlon> instead of 2
[19:09] <sil2100> I might have something for next meeting, since I'd like to first have a chat with the toolchain squad
[19:10] <seb128> I'm fine doing 2->3 weeks
[19:10] <amurray> same
[19:10] <seb128> I think we have enough people to decide here/now
[19:10] <sil2100> I don't mind
[19:10] <seb128> rbasak, ?
[19:12] <seb128> well I guess we have quorum even without him, I will update the wikipage to reflect that
[19:12] <rbasak> Sorry, reading
[19:12] <seb128> any other topic?
[19:12] <rbasak> And checking my calendar
[19:13] <rbasak> 3 weeks is OK for me.
[19:13] <seb128> great
[19:13] <rbasak> Nothing else from me thanks
[19:14] <seb128> alright, 30s for other topics if anyone has one!
[19:14] <seb128> seems not
[19:14] <seb128> thanks everyone!
[19:14] <seb128> #endmeeting
[19:15] <amurray> thanks seb128
[19:15] <seb128> (and I just noticed that I got a /msg from the bot telling me 'Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress')
[19:15] <seb128> well, we still have the irclogs
[19:15] <vorlon> thanks for the very efficient meeting!
[19:16] <seb128> np! :)
[19:19] <rbasak> vorlon: I had permission to change the shared calendar entry so I JFDI
[19:19] <rbasak> (FYI)
[19:19] <vorlon> hurray!
[19:21] <seb128> rbasak, thanks for updating the calendar! :)


[04:11] <Unit193> pleia2: In case you weren't following, it isn't a Ubuntu server issue, they are using SNI and wget 1.14 supports that, but whatever you are using for publishing doesn't appear to.
[04:42] <pleia2> Unit193: yeah, I noticed earlier that it was working fine in my browser
[04:43] <Unit193> As did I, however my recompiled version of wget now just doesn't trust the cert...
[06:55] <dholbach> good morning


[10:06] <mattymo> Is there a bug that can report changes to LP bugs?
[10:06] <mattymo> s/a bug/a bot/