[04:13] <riotkittie> if you have an ati card, the best option is to remove it from you box and then to shoot it. repeatedly.
[04:13] <idea> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2289/
[04:13] <EmxBA> pilotkevin, what? :)
[04:13] <xtknight> hhhjr: ah ok..may want to stop the compile so we can check some things
[04:14] <rambo3> xsaci linux is gnu
[04:14] <EmxBA> or just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put vesa driver, pilotkevin
[04:14] <Azul> rambo3, linux isn't gnu
[04:14] <pilotkevin> it asks me for info... right now "please enter the video card's bus identifier"
[04:14] <rambo3> Azul, linux/Gnu
[04:14] <luli> azul, please
[04:14] <montero61> I have a printer Epson installed in xp and want to occupy it from my ubuntu and like pcs they are not on-line by router that ago PS this is one traducsion is not very good I I am of Spanish speech
[04:14] <mnoir> xsaci: what do you mean?
[04:14] <Azul> luli, what's up?
[04:14] <Database> Perfect.
[04:14] <Azul> luli, wanna be friends?
[04:14] <Database> Thank you very much.
[04:14] <hhhjr> ok let me stop it and check, I assume  start it in the old kernel
[04:14] <frogzoo> alyssa__: just a mo, there's a place in /proc that mentions mice
[04:14] <xsaci> well linux is just the kernl
[04:14] <xsaci> and gnu is the os
[04:15] <xsaci> everything beyond that is distribution and x
[04:15] <Azul> rambo3, linux is only a kernel, gnu are tools built on the kernel to make it more useful
[04:15] <xsaci> I wonder if there is anything similar to gnu
[04:15] <luli> thank you speek espanish
[04:15] <montero61> a ni
[04:15] <cake> hey guys, any quick tip on howto get the master volue to control spdif sound as well?
[04:15] <Azul> that's why they call it GNU/Linux, and not Linux
[04:15] <montero61> speack spanich
[04:15] <xtknight> idea: let's dynamite gdm and gconf then.  sudo apt-get --purge remove gdm && sudo apt-get install gdm && sudo apt-get --purge remove gconf && sudo apt-get install gconf
[04:15] <xtknight> !es | montero61
[04:15] <ubotu> montero61: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:15] <mnoir> !es | montero61
[04:15] <rambo3> Azul, pleae dont teach me that 2 crade at uni , i v known that for a long time
[04:15] <idea> xtknight: ok :)
[04:15] <montero61> tanks
[04:16] <montero61> an luky uin yu ubuntus
[04:16] <luli> azul, thanks you espeek espanish
[04:16] <montero61> good bay
[04:16] <alyssa__> frogzoo: I dont think I follow. Anyway I have a fujitsu lifebook, c series, C2220.
[04:16] <montero61> :)
[04:16] <xtknight> !es | luli
[04:16] <ubotu> luli: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:16] <Azul> rambo3, then why are you teaching wrong things to people?
[04:16] <Azul> teach them what's right
[04:16] <pilotkevin> so wher ecan i find the answer to "Please enter the video card's bus identifier."
[04:16] <idea> luli: eres muy divertante ;)
[04:16] <IntuitiveNipple> Ahhh! pccardctl ident
[04:16] <Azul> luli, no.. only arabic and english
[04:16] <rambo3> Azul dont be a smartass
[04:16] <xsaci> but why didn't gnu have its own window system instead of using x?
[04:16] <up365> Ayabara: try this link worked for SBLive  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[04:17] <mnoir> xsaci: because the x ppl have a good product :)
[04:17] <piedoggie> xsaci: because they didn't have enough sense
[04:17] <Azul> rambo3, mature behaviour please
[04:17] <luli> azul, ok  i understand
[04:17] <shalini> where can i get the information on edUbuntu
[04:17] <Ayabara> up365, thanks. promising name on the thread at least :-)
[04:17] <xtknight> !edubuntu | shalini
[04:17] <ubotu> shalini: Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[04:17] <xsaci> well if x was a good product it would have window managers
[04:17] <piedoggie> xsaci: you need to understand more history
[04:18] <luli> idea what hapenig
[04:18] <xsaci> I have read a lot of it
[04:18] <piedoggie> the X folks were recoiling from the disaster called X10
[04:18] <sam_tt2nn> hi
[04:18] <alyssa__> Shalini: Have you tried: http://www.edubuntu.org/
[04:18] <piedoggie> and they decided to not determine policy and let that be up to the individual window managers
[04:18] <sam_tt2nn> i just finished install my beryl
[04:18] <mnoir> shalini: also #edubuntu
[04:18] <piedoggie> in hindsight, that was not the smartest move
[04:18] <xsaci> yeah
[04:18] <piedoggie> but since then, there have been many good replacement window managers
[04:18] <Azul> why the name X11?
[04:18] <mnoir> piedoggie: you don't like a free-for-all :)
[04:18] <piedoggie> I mean display systems
[04:19] <luli> xtknight:hello
[04:19] <piedoggie> :-)
[04:19] <idea> luli: trying to repair a broken ubuntu install..
[04:19] <piedoggie> but none of them ever got the mind share necessary for required traction
[04:19] <riotkittie> because its the... 11th version?
[04:19] <mnoir> piedoggie: in one way you are right because no one solution has won!
[04:19] <shalini> thank u
[04:19] <piedoggie> X11? that's because it came after X10
[04:19] <Azul> ok, why X?
[04:19] <luli> and why broken me
[04:19] <xtknight> luli: hello.  if you need help with an Ubuntu problem, you can ask your question.  if you just want to talk I suggest joining the #ubuntu-es  channel
[04:19] <name> how do i tell proftpd to only allow users to mess in their home?
[04:19] <Azul> why not D?
[04:19] <riotkittie> why not X?
[04:20] <piedoggie> the windowing system I really like from an architectural perspective is Y
[04:20] <piedoggie> X marks the spot
[04:20] <Amadeo> Is linux-image-386 going to be more optimized for me than linux-image-generic?
[04:20] <piedoggie> ask any pirate
[04:20] <luli> xtknight what
[04:20] <piedoggie> anyway, this is getting fairly far off topic for support channel
[04:20] <Hooc1> i have just installed ubuntu how do i go about installing my gfx drivers? (ati x1800xt)
[04:20] <riotkittie> yarrr. that said, stupid question time.
[04:20] <oFF-beAt> no use
[04:20] <sam_tt2nn> because X follows W :)
[04:20] <xsaci> wouldn't it be better if the OS =GNU/Linux had most of that internally than externally done?
[04:20] <xtknight> Amadeo: yes, if you have an i386
[04:21] <Azul> i'll ask at offtopic
[04:21] <xsaci> I mean why have so many parts of an OS
[04:21] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, still get slow frames n broken sound
[04:21] <alyssa__> can someone help on synaptic touch pad?
[04:21] <Amadeo> xtknight: thank you
[04:21] <xsaci> thats why its hard to standardize linux
[04:21] <sam_tt2nn> Hooc1 you can install the drivers from ATI.com
[04:21] <luli> idea and why you broken  the line whit me
[04:21] <Azul> xsaci, the beauty of linux is you can use whatever works for you, you don't stick to one window manager, one sound arcitecture.. etc
[04:22] <xsaci> yeah I understand that but thats why its not widely used
[04:22] <xsaci> right?
[04:22] <riotkittie> eh. standardization leads to limits. i like options.
[04:22] <luli> azul :ilove you como friends
[04:22] <Azul> oFF-beAt, did you install the drivers for your graphics card?
[04:22] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: try mplayer -ac null -vo gl <file>   you should get no sound, but see if anything still skips.  maybe it's an audio driver problem, we'll have to limit it down
[04:22] <idea> luli: es mejor que hablas en #ubuntu es. es mi ordinador que es rompa, no tu :)
[04:22] <oFF-beAt> Azul, yes
[04:22] <Azul> luli, teamo
[04:22] <xtknight> :O
[04:22] <idea> luli: #ubuntu-es
[04:22] <frogzoo> alyssa__: try 'less /proc/bus/input/devices' - may be mentioned as "GlidePoint"
[04:22] <piedoggie> Azul: is there a channel where we (including xsaci) can continue this conversation without interfering with the support folks?
[04:23] <riotkittie> No. Linux isnt widely used because MS strongholds the desktop market and has  done so for many years.
[04:23] <luli> azul i love you more
[04:23] <xtknight> lolo
[04:23] <odnigmann> hi.. i need help for a connection in wifi.. please
[04:23] <idea> xtknight: all done.. logging in again. brb.
[04:23] <xsaci> well thats because its easy for users to use it
[04:23] <xtknight> idea: ok
[04:23] <luli> idea are you crazy
[04:23] <lerneaen_hydra> random question: is there any page with info on getting midi/jack to work?
[04:23] <xsaci> and I can see why in many perspectives
[04:23] <Azul> luli, piedoggie what conversation?
[04:23] <Azul> opps
[04:23] <alyssa__> frogzoo: PS/2 Generic Mouse. :(
[04:23] <riotkittie> come to #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[04:24] <xsaci> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:24] <luli> azul: what is piedoggies
[04:24] <frogzoo> alyssa__: that's the externally connected one, sure
[04:24] <xtknight> lol
[04:24] <piedoggie> little conversation about windowing systems and organization of Linux etc..
[04:24] <cappiz> someone here ever tried luksOpen with a UUID instaed of /dev/device ?
[04:24] <linuxphotogeek> hi, installed edgy desktop - reboot - "insert system disk press enter"???
[04:24] <Azul> luli, go to #ubuntu-offtopic.. this might not be the best place for exchanging luv
[04:24] <jorgp> is there a way to get mkisofs to create an iso of a file that is 6.5gig
[04:24] <alyssa__> frogzoo: I dont have an externally connected mouse.
[04:24] <frogzoo> alyssa__: the Synaptic Touchpads are located on the front of lappies
[04:24] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, still slow.. but if i resize the widnow to a very small size.. no frame problems
[04:24] <luli> azul:why
[04:25] <alyssa__> frogzoo: no PS2 port, no external PS2/USB mouse. I use just the touchpad in the front of my notebook.
[04:25] <riotkittie> no. Windows is not necessarily easier than Linux. people find Windows easier because it's been crammed down their throats, and theyre used to it
[04:25] <qingting> installed realplayer  and i cant use it still ~  does anyone know what i can do ??  is there any codecs available?
[04:25] <frogzoo> alyssa__: kk, well still configure it as ps2 & see how you go
[04:25] <xsaci> not easier per say
[04:25] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: somehow i think the video drivers were not installed correctly.  can you do   "glxinfo | grep rend"  and see if direct rendering is yes
[04:25] <qingting> riotkittie ill second that
[04:25] <xsaci> its just easier to understand
[04:25] <xsaci> since there is little to understand
[04:25] <alyssa__> okie.
[04:25] <riotkittie> come to offtopic. lets continue this there :P
[04:26] <qingting> riotkittie my friend uses Vista ~ i god no idea how to use that ~~  XP  no problem  but vista ` no clue ~~  Ubuntu is a lot simpler to use ~~~
[04:26] <[h] tony|afk> hi all
[04:26] <alyssa__> frogzoo: I gtg now.. will try that and let you know. Thanks for your time though!
[04:26] <rod> hi everyone
[04:26] <luli> #ubuntu:que es
[04:26] <oFF-beAt> direct rendering: Yes
[04:26] <oFF-beAt> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce FX 5200/AGP/SSE2
[04:26] <idea> xtknight: love to say it's fixed! but, no. same same :((
[04:26] <rod> i'm having a waird problem here
[04:26] <rod> weird*
[04:26] <qingting> REALPLAYER  any kind of codec available cos this software aint working....
[04:26] <rod> with my video settings
[04:26] <luli> azul
[04:27] <Azul> luli, go away
[04:27] <xtknight> idea: well...i guess the only option is to reinstall...unless you dont mind me VNCing in and seeing what i can do... i wouldn't mind
[04:27] <rod> it's strange... i've updated the x server
[04:27] <jrib> qingting: use mplayer with w32codecs
[04:27] <jrib> !w32codecs | qingting
[04:27] <ubotu> qingting: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages including w32codecs | info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | See !codecs for more information
[04:27] <rod> but my screen gets crazy...
[04:27] <rod> with no focus
[04:27] <rod> like now
[04:27] <idea> xtknight: um. reinstall :( vnc ok.. we'd need to use hamachi, though..
[04:27] <rod> someone could help me?
[04:28] <xtknight> idea: that's cool.  used hamachi tons with vnc
[04:28] <xtknight> idea: give me a sec
[04:28] <frogzoo> rod: maybe your refresh rate is set too high?
[04:28] <idea> xtknight: proper stuff. you're a gent.. me too.. need to install hamachi and vnc..
[04:28] <rod> frogzoo, how can i check it?
[04:28] <ac45> hi guys, can someone help me ?
[04:28] <xtknight> idea: sudo apt-get install vino-server   for vnc
[04:28] <luli> azul:why you tel me
[04:28] <idea> xtknight: ok. thanks.
[04:29] <rod> frogzoo, i thought it could be a problem, with the monitor with my nvidia
[04:29] <rod> but isn't
[04:29] <qingting> JRIB  ~~  where do i get the codecs from ???  cant find them on the installer ~~~~
[04:30] <jrib> qingting: did you read the link ubotu told you about?
[04:30] <rod> frogzoo, i've tried to change the video settings like the frequency of the monitor... but it didn't work also
[04:30] <idea> xtknight: vino-server? not found..
[04:30] <luli> idea
[04:30] <qingting> jrib  yeah ~
[04:30] <rod> i've resintalled the x server
[04:30] <qingting> jrib  cant open it ~
[04:30] <rod> reconfigured it
[04:30] <xtknight> idea: just vino actually
[04:30] <jrib> qingting: can't open what? the link?
[04:30] <rod> nothing seems to be working
[04:31] <luli> azul: iam sad
[04:31] <qingting> jrib some websites are hard to open here (im behind the great firewall of china ~~)  anything with wiki in it is hard to open ~
[04:31] <idea> xtknight: ok. ta.
[04:31] <qingting> jrib cos of the wikipedia site....
[04:31] <Azul> luli, are you a troll?
[04:31] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, Azul ?
[04:31] <odnigmann> connect: Network is unreachable
[04:31] <odnigmann>  . whats mean? the network is down?
[04:31] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: how did the last command go?
[04:31] <rod> before, always when i power the pc on, i used to got a x server starting error... now i don't get it anymore
[04:31] <jrib> qingting: oh ok.  Well, http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/dists/edgy-seveas/ has w32codecs.  Are you able to open that page and do you know how to add it to your repository list?
[04:32] <oFF-beAt> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce FX 5200/AGP/SSE2
[04:32] <frogzoo> odnigmann: means your ether's not plugged in
[04:32] <idea> xtknight: vino appears to be installed.. just getting hamachi.
[04:32] <LjL> odnigmann: Stay the patient course / Of little worth is your ire / The network is down
[04:32] <luli> azul:troll?
[04:32] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: somehow i think the video drivers were not installed correctly.  can you do   "glxinfo | grep rend"  and see if direct rendering is yes
[04:32] <rod> but the video keeps not working properly
[04:32] <Azul> oFF-beAt,
[04:32] <oFF-beAt> direct rendering: Yes
[04:32] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: err sorry.  wrong message
[04:32] <Azul> wus up ma man
[04:32] <qingting> jrib  ill try  but no Gtee~~~~
[04:32] <odnigmann> frogzoo  a try connect wifi
[04:32] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: try mplayer -ac null -vo gl <file>    see if it's still slow.  might be a broken audio driver.  audio wont work this time but see if it's smooth
[04:32] <rod> didn't find nothing related to ir on the web
[04:32] <frogzoo> odnigmann: well there's no link
[04:33] <locomotive> hi
[04:33] <odnigmann> frogzoo i do this.. iwconfig eth1 essid name
[04:33] <jorgp> why can I not create an iso of a single file that is > 4Gb?
[04:33] <rod> someone ?
[04:33] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, already did that... and it was slow.. only shows ok.. if i keep the video resized to a v small seize
[04:33] <odnigmann> frogzoo iwonfig eth1 AP 00:76:dd...
[04:33] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: are you using xgl ?
[04:33] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, yes xgl
[04:33] <locomotive> when you have installed somethin using wine, where did wine install it to then, so in which folder did wine install it?
[04:34] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: i'm afraid that might be the problem.  but i don't know why exactly
[04:34] <crit09> All: Any help document for installing and configuring thunderbird on ubuntu
[04:34] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: does it work properly in regular X?
[04:34] <luli> azul:
[04:34] <idea> xtknight: where do i drop the hamachi dir (from downloaded archive)? or is there a simpler install method?
[04:34] <oFF-beAt> *sigh* m gonna reinstall ubuntu :(
[04:34] <longbean> locomotive: the .wine folder. it's a hidden directory
[04:34] <xtknight> idea: download the tar file to your home dir, extract it.  then go into the hamachi dir and follow the README
[04:34] <luli> idea:hello
[04:35] <odnigmann> I can't connect wifi..
[04:35] <rod> someone?
[04:35] <odnigmann> someone can help-me in wifi connection?
[04:36] <ac45> anyone know a boot up parameter for ubuntu ... cause im having problems with it with my Radeon 9250 PCI
[04:36] <odnigmann> someone can help-me in wifi?
[04:36] <locomotive> guys,where does wine install the programs?
[04:37] <locomotive> in what directory?
[04:37] <LjL> locomotive: in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files
[04:37] <LjL> or ~/.wine generally speaking anyway
[04:37] <rod> how can i downgrade my X server version?
[04:37] <zbogdan> i'm having trouble with ntfs mount! Need help:
[04:37] <zbogdan> ntfsmount /dev/sda6 /windows/e -o ro
[04:37] <zbogdan> fuse: failed to exec fusermount: No such file or directory
[04:37] <zbogdan> fuse_mount failed.
[04:37] <zbogdan> Unmounting:
[04:37] <zbogdan> root@zbog-desktop:/home/zbog# ls /dev/sda6
[04:37] <zbogdan> /dev/sda6
[04:37] <LjL> Ubotu, tell zbogdan about paste | zbogdan, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:37] <rod> i mean... i'm using 10.4
[04:37] <odnigmann> i like linux, but i dont need connect him in wifi.. i go back to windows :/
[04:37] <odnigmann> rs..
[04:37] <rod> how to install 10.2
[04:38] <rod> and resinstall the nvidia drive?
[04:38] <luli> azuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllll
[04:38] <locomotive> and how do you open  ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files? Sorry for all those questions
[04:38] <LjL> rod, downgrading packages is hardly easy and hardly safe. however, i know you can request a specific version by using apt-get install packagename=version
[04:38] <LjL> luli: stop this please
[04:38] <zbogdan> i c! 10x Ljl!
[04:39] <LjL> zbogdan: sorry?
[04:39] <xtknight> he just said thanks in leet speak ;P
[04:39] <luli> ljl:what
[04:39] <LjL> i see :-)
[04:39] <BenPA> hi all ... does anyone know if there is a gui for mpop and msmtp
[04:39] <LjL> luli, you're giving the channel some line noise, as far as i can see. please stop. this channel is for support; ask support questions
[04:39] <LjL> Ubotu, tell luli about etiquette | luli, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:40] <rod> LjL.. thanks! ...
[04:40] <rod> let me try something here
[04:40] <xtknight> idea: any luck?  get hamachi installed?
[04:40] <luli> LJL:WHAT HAPEN
[04:40] <locomotive> thanx Ljl
[04:40] <Hooc1> i have downloaded said ATI driver...how do i go about installing it ?
[04:41] <kontingenz> hello, ubuntu drives me crazy. after the installation everthing works fine out of the box (thinkpad T41) but now, two days after 1. MTRR Error --> very Slow Gnome 2. Speedstepping stops - whats that?
[04:41] <luli> LJL:i love you
[04:41] <BenPA> hi all ... does anyone know if there is a gui for mpop and msmtp or is there an easier program out there
[04:41] <LjL> yes, you are a troll
[04:42] <designdream> anyone have a slingbox working in ubuntu
[04:42] <rod> i've tried sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=10.2 but it didn't work :(
[04:43] <michaelpo> i'm new to linux.... how and what's the best practise use for the 4 workspace?
[04:43] <LjL> rod, probably not a valid version number
[04:43] <rod> hmm
[04:43] <LjL> rod: the valid version i have installed is 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12.1 for instance
[04:43] <rod> :)
[04:43] <LjL> rod: i don't know how that matches release numbers such as 10.2 honsetly
[04:43] <rod> let me try
[04:43] <Hooc1> how do i install a .run file ?
[04:43] <zbogdan> I have trouble with mounting a ntfs partition: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2290/
[04:43] <LjL> rod: where do you see that release number?
[04:44] <poorenglish> Hooc1: sh file
[04:44] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Hi! HELP NEEDED! Im trying to get two computers to connect using WLAN... the WLAN cards are activated but I cant get it to work!
[04:44] <LjL> Hooc1: you just execute it, it's most likely just an executable file. however, are you sure you want to do that? you're best off installing programs from packages
[04:44] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Hooc1 about software | Hooc1, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:44] <erUSUL> UbuntuN00B_HBG: without an acces point or router??
[04:44] <rod> the one i've installed here... i installet it like this : xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2=0ubuntu10
[04:44] <pakito> which ftp server is easy to install?
[04:44] <LjL> rod: hm, you're on dapper?
[04:45] <rod> yes
[04:45] <Jedrick> how to kill a program using terminal
[04:45] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> erUSUL: yeah... just two separate computer with onte WLAN-card each!
[04:45] <poorenglish> Jedrick: kill -i PID
[04:45] <LjL> Jedrick: killall programname
[04:45] <poorenglish> Jedrick: kill -9 PID
[04:45] <nanda> you can also use pkill
[04:45] <Jedrick> ok thnx
[04:45] <pakito> which ftp server is easy to install
[04:45] <LjL> rod: but, 1.0.2 - that sounds like it *would* be that 10.2 version
[04:46] <rod> it's the 10.4 version
[04:46] <pakito> which ftp server is easy to install
[04:46] <LjL> pakito: the one that's easy to break into.
[04:46] <LjL> !repeat | pakito
[04:46] <ubotu> pakito: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:46] <poorenglish> pakito: i used proftp, is easy for anonymous user
[04:46] <pakito> thank you
[04:47] <erUSUL> UbuntuN00B_HBG: dunno if tha's possible with linux... try with hostap
[04:47] <erUSUL> !hostap
[04:47] <Octavian`> hey....work games on ubuntu???ex.Counter strike?
[04:47] <Octavian`> :D
[04:47] <LjL> rod: well, well, what's the output of apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core? with any luck, the version you want will be listed too
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hostap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <erUSUL> !hostapp
[04:47] <pramz> Octavian`: http://www.cedega.com
[04:47] <poorenglish> Octavian`: or wine :o
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hostapp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <Octavian`> :))
[04:48] <Hoxzer> hi, can somebody here help me with kino capture problem?
[04:48] <Octavian`> work software lake windows on ubuntu?:D
[04:48] <Hoxzer> I'm trying to use firewire to import video from Dvmini camera
[04:48] <LjL> Octavian`: sorry?
[04:49] <Octavian`> hmm
[04:49] <Octavian`> ba e vreun roman pe aici?:D
[04:49] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> ill try that
[04:49] <Octavian`> LjL you run on linux ubuntu now?:D
[04:49] <Octavian`> :D
[04:49] <rod> LjL, it says the same thing 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[04:49] <BigToe> how come my DVD writer won't write CDs? It doesn't show up in K3b as a CD writer, only as a DVD writer, and no "do you want to make an audio/data CD" dialog pops up when I insert a CD.
[04:50] <Zaggynl> how do you rename a map so it becomes hidden? like wine -> .wine
[04:50] <rod> LjL, if i try to update it, it also says i'm using the last version
[04:50] <unperson> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my new computer, but I'm having some problems (really a first for me with Ubuntu).  The mobo has an nforce 405 (MCP61S) chipset with an onboard RAID controler.  In the BIOS, I setup a RAID0 device.  When I put in my Ubuntu 6.10 CD, however, it doesn't seem to see any disks.
[04:51] <BigToe> !CD
[04:51] <BigToe> :\
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <BigToe> oh
[04:52] <Ignite> BigToe, is it you?!
[04:52] <BigToe> Ignite, what?
[04:52] <unperson> I assume I need a driver or something.  nVidia's site suggests that I need the sata_nv module, and lsmod shows that that driver is loaded, so I don't know what to do.
[04:52] <ericrost> hey all, I'm a Gentooer who's considering trying out ubuntu, how much support is there in the ubuntu installer for partitioning?
[04:52] <Ignite> BigToe, from xelix?
[04:52] <erUSUL> unperson: installing to a raid device is not an easy task...
[04:52] <jrib> Zaggynl: what do you mean by a "map"?
[04:52] <BigToe> Ignite, oh... definitely not >_>
[04:52] <erUSUL> !raid | unperson
[04:52] <Ignite> BigToe, oh
[04:52] <rod> LjL, i guess it's time to lose all i do have and reinstall :(
[04:52] <ubotu> unperson: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:52] <marlun> Anyone knows if its possible to see which LaTeX packages I've got installed on the computer right now?
[04:52] <BigToe> I don't know what the hell you're talking about *coughYkstort*cough*
[04:52] <rod> Ubuntu again
[04:53] <Zaggynl> jrib, que?
[04:53] <Ignite> :O
[04:53] <Zaggynl> jrib, oh, a folder
[04:53] <Una^> Hey, got a strange problem with xorg.. I have the resolution set to 1680x1050 but parts of the screen do not display, till you scroll across... any idea why that is?
[04:53] <pakito> where is the config file for proftp?
[04:53] <poorenglish> pakito: /etf/proftp?
[04:53] <jrib> Zaggynl: anything with a . in front is hidden.  If you just want to hide it in the File Browser, you can create a .hidden file in the same directory and put the name of the file in there
[04:53] <LjL> rod: hold on a while more, i'll search for something
[04:53] <Ignite> Una^, you have a virtual resolution set, it's just emulating that resolution because it can't display it, try turning it down a bit.
[04:53] <BigToe> :\
[04:54] <BigToe> how come my DVD writer won't write CDs? It doesn't show up in K3b as a CD writer, only as a DVD writer, and no "do you want to make an audio/data CD" dialog pops up when I insert a CD.
[04:54] <erUSUL> pakito: in /etc/ with all other conf files?
[04:54] <Zaggynl> jrib, okay, so it's not a folder name thing, but an attribute?
[04:54] <poorenglish> pakito: /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[04:54] <unperson> erUSUL, Thanks.  So far the only stuff I've seen for installing Ubuntu on a RAID was talking about a software RAID.
[04:54] <jrib> Zaggynl: nope
[04:54] <Una^> Ignite, it should be able to display that resolution though since it works in OSX
[04:54] <jrib> Zaggynl: it is a name thing, anything with a . in front is hidden
[04:54] <TimmyJ__> hey, I'm having a problem installing nvidia-glx package from amarenth's repo. I get this error: depends nividia-kernel-1.0.9629. The thing is it used to be fine until an update removed that package, now i can't reinstall
[04:54] <Ignite> Una^, sorry I don't have much experience with PPC.
[04:54] <Ignite> any*
[04:54] <frogzoo> BigToe: do you have the cd burning apps installed?
[04:54] <Una^> Ignite, its not PPC.
[04:54] <seshomaru> can anyone tell me how to submit a bug?
[04:54] <Ignite> Oh
[04:55] <BigToe> yes, frogzoo
[04:55] <Zaggynl> jrib, so, is there a easy CLI way to make a folder hidden?
[04:55] <jrib> !bugs | seshomaru
[04:55] <ubotu> seshomaru: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:55] <rod> LjL, thanks! i'll try to downgrade it because my video is not working..i mean... the screen is crazy,,.. it'shard to explain..
[04:55] <Ignite> Una^, do you have your video card driver installed?
[04:55] <Zaggynl> like rename wine .wine or something?
[04:55] <unperson> marlun, I think maybe you should be able to simply /usr/share/tetex-extra/latex or someplace like that and see directories for the packages included?
[04:55] <knoppix_> TimmyJ_ get the kernel package back
[04:55] <Una^> Ignite, sure.. its using i810
[04:55] <frogzoo> BigToe: permission problem maybe?
[04:55] <jrib> Zaggynl: mv foo .foo   But notice that "foo" is not the same as ".foo", anything that looks for "foo", won't find ".foo"
[04:55] <BigToe> I can use my old CD writer to burn DVDs but it's very tempramental, frogzoo
[04:55] <BigToe> frogzoo, how do I fix that?
[04:55] <daxxar> The following packages will be REMOVED: sysvinit
[04:55] <daxxar> Eep. :p
[04:56] <frogzoo> BigToe: ls -lL /dev/cdrom
[04:56] <TimmyJ> knoppix_, what kernel package? there is no nvidia-kernel-1.0.9629 package
[04:56] <Zaggynl> jrib, well I tried that, but because a .wine folder already existed, it created a folder inside .wine named wine
[04:56] <Hadarra> Is there a way to put html-page permanently on Gnome-desktop? Like a gdesklet?
[04:56] <LjL> rod: no, i'm afraid that 1.0.2-0ubuntu10 really is the lowest version currently available for Dapper...
[04:56] <Ignite> Una^, try the forum, or the wiki.
[04:56] <idea> xtknight: sorry. network outage :( um. issues with hamachi..
[04:56] <BigToe> frogzoo, brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2007-01-20 15:36 /dev/cdrom
[04:56] <idea> xtknight: will see if i can resolve them.
[04:56] <Una^> Ignite, the resolution also displays correctly in vesa driver so I assume its a driver problem.... yeah have been doing np
[04:56] <frogzoo> BigToe: ru member of cdrom group?
[04:56] <ericrost> anyone, does the Ubuntu install cd support partitioning? I know its supposed to be a "easy" installer so I just want to make sure I can migrate a Gentoo box easily (I've got everything partitioned up so I can just everything but /home)
[04:56] <BigToe> frogzoo, I don't think so...
[04:57] <Ignite> ericrost, yes.
[04:57] <LjL> rod: so basically, you did a normal upgrade because you were prompted by the automatic updater, and that broke your X. is that what happen?
[04:57] <knoppix_> TimmyJ so look for a repo where you can find it
[04:57] <BigToe> frogzoo, how do I become a member of cdrom group? I keep forgetting commands :S
[04:57] <rod> LjL, correct...
[04:57] <jrib> Zaggynl: can you explain what you are trying to do in a  little more detail?
[04:57] <seshomaru> hello?
[04:57] <ericrost> Ignite: thanks, do you know how the speed/responsiveness compares to gentoo on something like a 2 year old AMD sempron?
[04:57] <rod> aftar that... my screensaver is not working anymore
[04:57] <mbutUbuntu> hello folks
[04:57] <Mikelo> IdleOne: ok i switched to vesa in the xorg configuration, gdm login starts but it crashes when uname & pass are typed
[04:57] <BenPA> hi all ... does anyone know if there is a gui for mpop and msmtp or is there an easier program out there
[04:57] <xtknight> idea: sorry i'll have to help later
[04:57] <LjL> rod: hm is it just the screensaver?
[04:57] <mbutUbuntu> I need to install
[04:58] <xtknight> idea: i'll be on maybe in a couple hours, im not sure
[04:58] <Ignite> BigToe, run k3bsetup as root, that will allow you to fix any permission problems.
[04:58] <unperson> erUSUL, That help.ubuntu.com link about RAIDs looks WAY out of date.  It's talking about Warty and kernel 2.6.8
[04:58] <rod> LjL, no the entire pc..
[04:58] <mbutUbuntu> ardour2 on my xubuntu 6.06 dapper
[04:58] <BigToe> hmm, k Ignite
[04:58] <mbutUbuntu> but I can't find it on repo
[04:58] <rod> LjL, noe it's hard to see what is on the screen
[04:58] <idea> xtknight: ok. thanks for all your help so far.
[04:58] <Zaggynl> jrib, well I did this 'mv .wine wine-backup', and made a new .wine dir to mess around with, now I want to restore my wine-backup to .wine again
[04:58] <crimsun> mbutUbuntu: it's not in 6.06 LTS or 6.10
[04:58] <crimsun> mbutUbuntu: we're working on it for 7.04
[04:58] <rod> i'm with a big difficult to read and write here
[04:58] <Dame> !edgy
[04:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[04:58] <mbutUbuntu> what crimsun ??
[04:58] <crimsun> mbutUbuntu: Ardour2 betas are not in Ubuntu.
[04:58] <LjL> rod: hm, can you take a picture?
[04:58] <jrib> Zaggynl: so rename your current .wine to .wine-old (or whatever) and then rename wine-backup to .wine
[04:58] <mbutUbuntu> why not??
[04:59] <Zaggynl> jrib, ah okay, cheers
[04:59] <Zaggynl> jrib, with the command rename right?
[04:59] <rod> yes...  just a sec
[04:59] <Ignite> ericrost, Ubuntu is pretty damn responsive, I have a 2.66GHz Celeron and 256MB RAM and I can do quite a lot with just this. :P
[04:59] <jrib> Zaggynl: no, mv
[04:59] <Zaggynl> ah okay
[04:59] <jrib> Zaggynl: rename does batch renaming using regex
[04:59] <Dame> Is worth upgrading from dapper to edgy?
[04:59] <erUSUL> unperson: the correct how o is this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[04:59] <Zaggynl> hmm okay
[04:59] <Ignite> ericrost, but you'll probably not get faster than a well thought out Gentoo install, but the convenience easily outweighs it in my opinion.
[04:59] <Mikelo> basically after i input credentials on login screen it asks them again soon after )-:
[04:59] <LjL> Dame: if there is nothing that you need from Edgy, probably not
[05:00] <frogzoo> Ignite: edgy was a big improvement, dapper was a little sluggish
[05:00] <Dame> LjL, what edjy offers more?
[05:00] <Ignite> frogzoo, that'll be upstart.
[05:00] <frogzoo> Dame: for the desktop, absolutely
[05:00] <BigToe> Ignite, nope, still doesn't show up in k3b
[05:00] <ericrost> Ignite: ok, I went with Gentoo because of speed, but yeah, the involved config and all is driving me nuts, I've got a box with an Ati card in it, and it just doesn't want to behave :p
[05:00] <erUSUL> unperson: or this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidEdgy
[05:00] <rod> LjL, somtimes ... it gets ok.. the pic is ok..i mean... if hold for a moment.. the pic is ok... but the screen it getting crazy
[05:00] <LjL> !edgy | dame
[05:00] <ubotu> dame: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:00] <rod> LjL, it's a weird problem..
[05:01] <LjL> Dame: hm, i thought it listed the specifications too... hold on
[05:01] <ericrost> Ignite: I'm torrenting the desktop install cd in the backgrount
[05:01] <Ignite> BigToe, not a clue then, sorry.
[05:01] <Mikelo> !feisty
[05:01] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:01] <frogzoo> Dame: the upgrade in gnome alone makes it worth it
[05:01] <Ignite> :)
[05:01] <BigToe> Ignite, I did get some X errors when I loaded k3b
[05:01] <mbutUbuntu> crimsun, must I upgrade ubuntu??
[05:01] <Ignite> BigToe, pastecode.com ;)
[05:01] <Dame> frogzoo, so I should upgrade
[05:01] <LjL> Dame: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy --- and of course, there are many updated packages too (some of which are broken, but)
[05:01] <Zamber> #ubuntu7,04
[05:01] <unperson> erUSUL, Thanks!  I'll take a look.
[05:01] <rockprincess> hello! i'm wondering if Ubuntu Feisty Fawn will get better support for BLUETOOTH
[05:01] <BigToe> Ignite, one step ahead... if it wasn't for my slow internet
[05:02] <cake> hey guys u know how i can control the spdif (via dxs#) ouput with the master volume control?
[05:02] <Ignite> BigToe, lol
[05:02] <frogzoo> Dame: personally I'd say clean install is cleaner & quicker in the long run
[05:02] <LjL> rod: perhaps try and see if Edgy solves that (you could try a live cd for starters)
[05:02] <ericrost> Ignite: is it a big deal under Ubuntu to run a patched kernel (ie the bluez patch I'm sure I'll need?)
[05:02] <Zamber> rockprincess, try kubuntu
[05:02] <rod> LjL, you right...
[05:02] <BigToe> Ignite, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2293/
[05:02] <erUSUL> unperson: no problem
[05:02] <rod> be right back... i guess i found something
[05:03] <Dame> frogzoo, I was going to ask that :) thanks
[05:03] <Ignite> ericrost, not really, but I wouldn't waiver from the default, it's pretty damn good for hardware support, if you do need to patch it, which I doubt, you can just install a vanilla or patch the ubuntu one as you would in Gentoo.
[05:03] <rockprincess> Zamber: i've Kubuntu 6.10 on my desktop computer and Edubuntu 6.10 on my laptop, but on both pairing seems disabled......i just dont get it working....
[05:03] <Ignite> ericrost, only without genkernel. ;)
[05:03] <ericrost> Ignite: I don't use genkernel
[05:03] <Ignite> :)
[05:04] <rockprincess> Zamber: and it's quite frustrating as I've been trying it for weeks now......
[05:04] <Zamber> !bluetooth
[05:04] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:04] <Zamber> ;]
[05:04] <Hoxzer> !dv
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <rockprincess> Zamber: tried that ;)
[05:04] <Zamber> and?
[05:04] <Ignite> BigToe, that's just normal stuff, you'll always get that in the terminal from kde apps.
[05:04] <ericrost> Ignite: I've been rebuilding my kernel multiple times as I phase in my system with support for everything, but I had to use the bluez patch to get support for M$oft's wireless set for bluetooth
[05:04] <BigToe> Ignite, ah
[05:04] <Ignite> BigToe, not a clue why... but it happens.
[05:04] <Zamber> try agin -_-
[05:04] <Balsamic_Chicken> to install a patch, the code is: patch <~/winestuff/32mouse.patch (from ubuntu forum), what does the "<" sign mean in that command, thx alot for any help
[05:05] <unperson> erUSUL, Ah, so you believe that my system probably doesn't have an actual hardware RAID controller, but one of these fake RAIDs?
[05:05] <rockprincess> Zamber: are you sure this works for Edgy?
[05:05] <unperson> ...which would explain why Linux doesn't see it.
[05:05] <idea> xtknight: fwiw, now have hamachi running, but blank pass is invalid, apparently.
[05:06] <Zamber> rockprincess, I'm not sure if it's 100% working but I saw it working at my friends ;]
[05:06] <antiNeo> this is an age old problem i've never figured out: I put my UT2004 disk in a friend's ubuntu machiene, and now I want it back. but whenever I try to unmount it, it says it's busy but I have no idea what's keeping it busy. is there something to force it to eject? it's driving me crazy
[05:06] <erUSUL> unperson: the raids that comes with motherboards are all fake raids. only high end raid cards actually comes with real hardware aided raid operations
[05:06] <BigToe> Ignite, just in case k3bsetup didn't do it, how do I manually join cdrom group?
[05:06] <ericrost> Ignite: can you rebuild stuff form source through the package manager in Ubuntu? I understand that its not the norm, but I got used to it with Gentoo
[05:07] <surgy_asleep> hello
[05:07] <frogzoo> antiNeo: fuser -c /media/cdrom/
[05:07] <Ignite> antiNeo, you can use the -l option, it'll do a lazy unmount, should let you have your disk, or try using the eject command.
[05:07] <erUSUL> unperson: read here http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html#fakeraid
[05:08] <unperson> erUSUL, I see.  Thanks, that's very useful information.
[05:08] <vleon> i opened up myt pc, put out one memory stick, put it back, and then my sound card doest work O_O, ubuntu doesnt show it in the device manager, and i cheked every thing, the wires are in place
[05:08] <surgy> I need help configuring my xbox gamepad
[05:08] <erUSUL> unperson: no problem
[05:08] <Ignite> ericrost, you can do "apt-get build-dep <package name>" to install everything you need to build a package, then run "apt-get source <package name>" to download the source code for the package, apply the ubuntu patches and then you can compile it with no problems, I wouldn't see the point unless you're playing with the code though. ;)
[05:08] <unperson> erUSUL, So then the advantage over using a straight-up software RAID in Linux is minimal.
[05:08] <unperson> erUSUL, ...if any.
[05:09] <frogzoo> surgy: an interesting ubuntu problem...
[05:09] <vleon>  ned up myt pc, put out one memory stick, put it back, and then my sound card doest work O_O, ubuntu doesnt show it in the device manager, and i cheked every thing, the wires are in place
[05:09] <Mikelo> i am using to vesa in the xorg configuration, gdm login starts but it crashes when uname & pass are typed
[05:09] <BigToe> how do I become a member of the "cdrom" group?
[05:10] <surgy> frogzoo: yes
[05:10] <erUSUL> unperson: yes, but if you are dual booting with windows... you have no choice i guess
[05:10] <ericrost> Ignite: build it with hardware optimizations? since all the packages are built against a PII with PIII optimizations, just a little tweaky tweaky to get some more speed?
[05:10] <unperson> erUSUL, Not a problem for me.  My home is Windows free.
[05:10] <antiNeo> frogzoo: no luck... still sitting in the drive
[05:10] <Ignite> BigToe, usermod -G <groupname> -u <username>
[05:10] <surgy> frogzoo: can you help?
[05:10] <BigToe> thanks Ignite
[05:11] <unperson> erUSUL, Well...ok, that's sort of a lie.  I'm pretty sure there's a Win 2000 disk lying around somewhere in a stack of CDs somewhere.  :-)
[05:11] <Ignite> ericrost, I really doubt you'll need the extra speed, I personally find that most speed boosts from Gentoo come from not enabling features via the USE flags, thus having smaller programs...
[05:11] <ericrost> Ignite: but then again, maybe I should just let Ubuntu "just work" if I'm going to go w/it
[05:11] <Ignite> Yeah, that'd be a good idea. :P
[05:12] <vleon> ok how do i make my ubuntu use my pci sound card and not the onboard one?
[05:12] <ericrost> Ignite: and the package manager in ubuntu doesn't let you do that if you're building yourself?
[05:12] <surgy> frogzoo: oh that came out wrong its an xbox game pad modified to usb,
[05:12] <BigToe> Ignite, I got usermod: invalid numeric argument `bigtoe'... bigtoe is <username> btw
[05:12] <ericrost> Ignite: so you think I'll find that my hardware's decent enough to not worry about that lil extra bit of speed from the modular nature of USE flagged apps?
[05:13] <Ignite> ericrost, of course you can tweak the makefiles and such yourself, but there really is no point, apt is one of the best package management tools around, and the Debian/Ubuntu guys know what they're doing. :P
[05:13] <PSIplus> Ignite: Ack!!!
[05:13] <antiNeo> figured my problem out :-D
[05:13] <Ignite> BigToe, oh... man usermod.
[05:13] <Ignite> :P
[05:13] <erUSUL> unperson: then go for the software raid solution...
[05:14] <Ignite> ericrost, what are your specs? The stated system requirements for Ubuntu are just a 2GB HDD and 256MB RAM...
[05:14] <denver> do the ubuntu kernel modifications directly affect the functionality of the operating system? (can i compile a regular vanilla kernel and still get the same functionality that i get now?)
[05:14] <BigToe> ah Ignite
[05:14] <LjL> hm, the desktop version fits in 2Gb? barely, i'd think
[05:14] <unperson> erUSUL, Yes, that sounds like the thing to do.  Now I guess I have to do some reading.  Thanks again.
[05:14] <PSIplus> Ignite: Never want it the RPM-Way: One Package Format, one package per dist and again more packages per dist version and even then not enough and no good version and dep-checking...
[05:14] <BigToe> Ignite, cdrom0 (which is likely to be my DVD writer?) belongs to root, and file group root... should I sudo chown bigtoe /media/cdrom0
[05:15] <Ignite> denver, a lot of patches are applied for hardware support, and some binary blobs added, so you'll lose some functionality.
[05:15] <denver> thank you ignite
[05:15] <LjL> PSIplus: "One Package Format, one package per dist and again more packages per dist version" sounds precisely like Ubuntu tbh
[05:16] <Ignite> PSIplus, deb is like a giant family, you can grab an xandros package and install it in ubuntu for example.
[05:16] <cappiz> someone here ever tried luksOpen with a UUID instaed of /dev/device ?
[05:16] <erUSUL> unperson: no problem and good luck
[05:16] <cappiz> or made a ubuntu install on an encrypted USB-pen ?
[05:16] <Ignite> PSIplus, are you ericrost?
[05:17] <PSIplus> LjL: Sure, in ubuntu itself from point of view of very optimized packages... But think about other package sources: Because of good builds and good packages you have usually only ~one~ package for debian-based dists, and it works for all of them... But in RPM you got usually at least three versions (suse, redhat, mdk)
[05:17] <ericrost> Ignite: 2 systems: AMD Sempron 3000+, 512 MB Ram, 120GB HD, NVidia Nforce2 chipset Geforce4 graphics. Intel 2.4 GHz P4a, 1 GB Ram, 2 HDD's 120 GB and 160 GB, Ati Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB All-In-Wonder
[05:17] <fred1234567890> testing
[05:17] <crit09> All: Can a university email account be configured in Mozilla Thunderbird?
[05:17] <PSIplus> Ignite: Exactly... I "upgraded" one of my servers from sarge to dapper without any major problems recently :->
[05:17] <LjL> PSIplus, that's not true at all. "optimized packages"? when? actually, the truth is that using a Debian package in Ubuntu, or vice versa, is very likely to break things, as is using, say, a Dapper package in Edgy or vice versa.
[05:18] <ericrost> Ignite: no I'm not PSIplus
[05:18] <LjL> making people believe the contrary isn't good for them
[05:18] <Ignite> ericrost, I seriously doubt you're going to have any speed problems, I barely have anything noticable on here and I have 256MB DDR RAM and a Celeron... if you _really_ want an added speed boost, adding the elevator=cfq kernel boot option has some radical effects. ;)
[05:18] <crit09> All: Can a university email account be configured in Mozilla Thunderbird?
[05:18] <Ignite> ericrost, lol okay.
[05:19] <LjL> crit09: if it's implemented through the standard POP3 or IMAP and SMTP protocols, sure
[05:19] <Lynoure> crit09: Depends on your university
[05:19] <crit09> LjL Lynoure: whats the best way to find out if it implements those standards
[05:19] <PSIplus> LjL: I use many dapper packages here, never seen a problem about it... I use debian for many years now, and most problems were caused by people using auto-generated dependencies in "control", and therefor denieing packages to be installed on other plattforms than the build-system... But that's only stupidity and can be resolved with the editor of your choice...
[05:20] <Lynoure> crit09: Actually they could still restrict it to univ. internal network... But that'd be rare.
[05:20] <ctothej> how is the ntfs-3g driver? can it write to ntfs reliably?
[05:21] <PSIplus> ctothej: Jep
[05:21] <Ignite> ctothej, http://linux-ntfs.org I believe is the URL.
[05:21] <jenda> Hear, hear! Ubuntu QUIZ in #ubuntu-trivia in 1 hour from now. Todays prize: Ubuntu Poster! You can't miss this!
[05:21] <Lynoure> crit09: How about the classic method of asking them for the server name and port?
[05:21] <crit09> Lynoure LjL: I just found out that it supports POP and IMAP protocols
[05:21] <NeoNmaN> i need help to Ubuntu whit VNC can i get help? :)
[05:21] <PSIplus> ctothej: It is shipped with edgy
[05:21] <Lynoure> crit09: Then you'll be fine :)
[05:21] <PSIplus> ctothej: apt-get install ntfs-3g ... Use it for a while now and never had any problems
[05:21] <crit09> Lynoure: What would be the next step ?
[05:21] <nolimitsoya> how do i migrate evolution mail from one home to another?
[05:22] <nolimitsoya> btw, cp -a .evolution didnt work...
[05:22] <ctothej> PSIplus: nice. is there anything I have to do to have it auto mount the ntfs drive instead of the current mounting app?
[05:22] <Lynoure> crit09: I do not have Thunderbird here but I recall it having a Add new mail accord wizard
[05:24] <crit09> Lynoure: Having known that it supports IMAP and POP, what's the best way to determine the port?
[05:24] <jenda> Today's QUIZ theme: General Expressions (and more)
[05:24] <humboldt> does the server release installer support evms lvm md setup?
[05:24] <PSIplus> ctothej: Not really... Just use -t ntfs-3g as filesystem with mount, or enter it in /etc/fstab as ntfs-3g... Usually all parameters are set well... You sometimes "should" set some locale parameter (see man mount.ntfs-3g for mor info about it) ... But usually it works out of the box...: # mount /dev/sda4 -t ntfs-3g /mnt/win32 ;-)
[05:24] <humboldt> how would I best setup a system with evms logical volumes?
[05:25] <Ndut2> hi guys
[05:25] <PSIplus> Hi Ndut2 ;-)
[05:25] <Amadeo> Where can I find a guide to getting more framerate out of my Nvidia card?
[05:25] <nolimitsoya> !lvm| humboldt
[05:25] <ubotu> humboldt: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:25] <Ndut2> can unbuntu run on intel celeron 600+ laptop with 128 mb and 7 gig drive ?
[05:25] <Lynoure> crit09: I think thunderbind can fill them for you if you choose the right protocol. You should try with SSL first and only without if you must
[05:25] <nolimitsoya> Ndut2, yes, but i suggest xubuntu
[05:25] <Ndut2> may be with xfce running
[05:25] <ctothej> PSIplus: great thanks for the help
[05:25] <PSIplus> Ndut2: http://tuxmobile.org/
[05:26] <humboldt> nolimitsoya: no lvm or don't use lvm?
[05:26] <revan> hi, I've tried to install K3d and it's proven to be a pain in the ass. I've tried to remove it but it tells me to that the package is in such a bad condition I have to reinstall it. So when I try to reinstall it I get this:
[05:26] <revan> dpkg: error processing k3d (--install):
[05:26] <revan>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[05:26] <revan> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:26] <revan>  k3d
[05:26] <nolimitsoya> Ndut2, you will need to install with the alternate cd
[05:26] <Ndut2> xubuntu ? i am new to ubuntu
[05:26] <Lynoure> crit09: Your university probably has people to walk you through this. Most even have howto on the web.
[05:26] <PSIplus> Ndut2: Usually yes, bot look there for sure
[05:26] <PSIplus> ctothej: You're welcome
[05:26] <Ndut2> how many version of ubuntu is there ?
[05:26] <nolimitsoya> Ndut2, xubuntu is a version of ubuntu with the xfce wm
[05:27] <Trixsey> I recently got Ubuntu, any cool open source programs to recommend? I'm kinda new to this open source community but it seems awesome!
[05:27] <PSIplus> Ndut2: Currently there are 6.06 (LTS) somewhat "stable" released, "edgy" (6.10), cutting-edge-stable... (I use this) and "feisty", the beta-version
[05:27] <nolimitsoya> Ndut2, fluxbuntu is another, but its not an official branch and pretty rocky...
[05:27] <jrib> revan: what version of ubuntu?
[05:27] <PSIplus> Ndut2: "Version" ;-)
[05:27] <nolimitsoya> Trixsey, tools for what?
[05:27] <Ndut2> hmm ic
[05:27] <Trixsey> nolimitsoya, cool programs :) I need inspiration :D
[05:27] <Trixsey> could be anything
[05:28] <PSIplus> Ndut2: But about the version you meant, I use kubuntu ( http://www.kubuntu.org/ ) for example
[05:28] <nolimitsoya> Trixsey, you need to be specific. ubuntu contains >15000 packages
[05:28] <dime> amarok
[05:28] <Delux_247> hey yall, i got nvidia twinview set up but one minor problem, my program and start bar are on the right monitor and i want it on the left
[05:28] <Delux_247> so i just swap monitor cables
[05:28] <Trixsey> nolimitsoya, just funny programs, good media players.. programs you think of when you hear "good program" :P
[05:28] <Delux_247> ?
[05:28] <Trixsey> Anything really.. I could change from the programs I'm using to the ones suggested if they turn out to be good
[05:28] <Trixsey> I'm out to explore Ubuntu and the open source community
[05:28] <Trixsey> so.. anything is fine really..
[05:29] <dime> once again... .amarok
[05:29] <Trixsey> Beryl was cool.. I liked mplayer and it's ability to play almost any media with all codecs
[05:29] <Trixsey> to give a few examples :)
[05:29] <crit09> Lynoure: With your guidance I was able to configure the webmail account
[05:29] <PSIplus> Trixsey: I use Amarok... I love Amarok... Desperately ;-)
[05:29] <nolimitsoya> Trixsey, abcde is a good cd ripper, lostirc is a good irc client, gxine is a good movieplayer etc
[05:29] <Lynoure> crit09: That's nice to hear :)
[05:29] <Balsamic_Chicken> trixsey vlc if u dont already have
[05:29] <PSIplus> Trixsey: It's the best player I ever used so far...
[05:29] <frogzoo> PSIplus: amarok only likes you cos you're rich
[05:30] <Lynoure> crit09: Have fun using it!
[05:30] <nolimitsoya> how do i migrate evolution mail from one home to another?
[05:30] <Balsamic_Chicken> trixsey gimp imagemagik etc
[05:30] <PSIplus> frogzoo: I already thought so... But I keep the bit** ;-)
[05:30] <dime> democracyplayer is nice for internet video
[05:30] <crit09> Lynoure: Thanks a bunch
[05:30] <frogzoo> nolimitsoya: copy across the inbox file
[05:30] <Ndut2> hmmm
[05:30] <Trixsey> nolimitsoya, you'd rather go with lostirc than XChat?
[05:30] <christopherl> anyone know how to disable tooltips in Ubuntu 6.10 Gnome?
[05:30] <nolimitsoya> frogzoo, wouldnt that be done when doing cp -a .evolution? in that case, it didnt work
[05:31] <nolimitsoya> Trixsey, yes, but thats just m
[05:31] <nolimitsoya> *me
[05:31] <frogzoo> nolimitsoya: cp -r you mean
[05:31] <ccvp> (breaking news)(ap/reuters) - A nuclear bomb has went off in Tel Aviv, causing an estimated 5+ million deaths. Details Soon.
[05:31] <idea> frogzoo: any more ideas, mate?
[05:31] <Trixsey> Why is VLC preferred? I'm crazy about MPlayer :D
[05:31] <nolimitsoya> frogzoo, no, cp -a
[05:31] <PSIplus> Trixsey: Kaffeine is even a good media player, because it is from my point of view one of the best xine frontends so far and one of the best standalone to watch DVB-TV under Linux
[05:31] <Trixsey> mplayer nogui is perfect.. no useless gui and supports pretty much any media
[05:31] <Trixsey> :D
[05:32] <nolimitsoya> frogzoo, thing is, i want to sync the mail between several (linux) operatingsystems in a dual boot environment. hence, cp -a
[05:32] <PSIplus> Trixsey: Sure, I use it as well, but developement is getting slower... It has some known issues... And sound-Problem... I use it, but I try to replace it by something good now for some time
[05:33] <lazergunzpewpew> Hey guys =)
[05:33] <Trixsey> Amarok seems really cool
[05:33] <zbogdan> where does ubuntu mount its devices (/dev/cdrom, /dev/sda1 )?
[05:33] <christopherl> disable tooltips in Gnome?
[05:33] <AlexC_> hey hey
[05:33] <penfold_99> anyone used tinydns?
[05:33] <wastrel> zbogdan:  /media
[05:33] <PSIplus> zbogdan: /media by default
[05:33] <thug> hmm what domain name should i buy now ? regarding a email web server ? :)
[05:33] <roler> Is there a app for X that lists servers in a nice window for me to connect to? Primarily i'm looking for a list to connect via ssh, but other things like rdesktop and whatnot would be cool too
[05:34] <AlexC_> thug: how about "that-isn't-ubuntu-related.com"
[05:34] <[BTF] Chm0d> how do you install a .patch extension on ubuntu?
[05:34] <thug> AlexC_ tha`ll be it :)
[05:34] <lazergunzpewpew> Is there a preset command, to run Xchat in the terminal?
[05:34] <jrib> lazergunzpewpew: 'xchat'
[05:34] <nolimitsoya> zbogdan, /medoa/foo
[05:34] <lazergunzpewpew> i tried xchat ..
[05:35] <zbogdan> thanks PSIplus, wastrel!
[05:35] <nolimitsoya> sorry, that had been said already...
[05:35] <jrib> lazergunzpewpew: or do you mean without a gui and actually as a terminal application?
[05:35] <PSIplus> roler: kdessh
[05:35] <AlexC_> lazergunzpewpew: gnome-xchat
[05:35] <AlexC_> lazergunzpewpew: nope. hum!
[05:35] <AlexC_> lazergunzpewpew: ah, xchat-gnome
[05:35] <iuui> is there a way to proxy before connecting to irc?
[05:35] <lazergunzpewpew> >.<
[05:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> anyone?
[05:36] <revan> ...
[05:36] <jrib> [BTF] Chm0d: I don't think you want to install it
[05:36] <PSIplus> iuui: In what app gaim, xchat, .............?
[05:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> y not
[05:36] <jrib> [BTF] Chm0d: what are you trying to do?
[05:36] <revan> Does anyone know how to do a dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq? I'm trying to get rid of a corrupt package
[05:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> install a patch to fix kxdocker
[05:36] <iuui> psiplus- right now i'm using xchat, but it doesn't really matter
[05:36] <frogzoo> nolimitsoya: take a look under .evolution/mail/local/Inbox - you should find your mail there in plain text
[05:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> from quinnstorm
[05:37] <jrib> [BTF] Chm0d: you'll probably need to get the source package, apply the patch, rebuild the package, install the package
[05:37] <PSIplus> iuui: There is an option ~somewhere~ for it, look in the server settings or general settings... I for myself use currently, just because it's handsome, gaim, there is a special tab for the settings
[05:37] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok how do i apply the patch i guess is what I am asking
[05:37] <lazergunzpewpew> That works fine :P , Also...
[05:37] <PSIplus> iuui: Why do you need a proxy for irc?
[05:37] <nolimitsoya> frogzoo, i want to sync, not read. i want to transfer all settings as a whole, with filters and everything, making symlinks to an outside dir syncing all operatingsystems to one config
[05:38] <iuui> psiplus - is 'currently' an app?
[05:38] <Random_Transit> hey, i'm having trouble with apache, can anyone help??
[05:38] <lazergunzpewpew> How do I install a theme for XMMS I've tried just simply dragging the extracted files into the theme folder. but an  error is thrown about " not having the correct permissions" ideas?
[05:38] <nfp|kelnoky> how can i see if my swap is active
[05:38] <jrib> [BTF] Chm0d: see 'man patch' and http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/1237 , but usually:  patch -p0 < file.patch   see the man page for what -p does
[05:38] <pirx> hey! i copied the .inputrc that i used in gentoo, but it doesnt seem to be sourced in ubuntu. anyone who knows how to make my dear shortcuts work in the command line again?
[05:38] <iuui> psiplus - i got kicked off a forum :) i honestly didn't mean to, i put in a qoute, and the server thought i was flooding
[05:38] <AlexC_> Random_Transit: #apache
[05:38] <PSIplus> iuui: No, It's just a matter of grammar, I use gaim :-)
[05:38] <alin4lex> hello
[05:38] <[BTF] Chm0d> thx jrib
[05:38] <iuui> gotchya ;)
[05:39] <odnigmann> someone can help-me in wifi??
[05:39] <alin4lex> any grub expert?
[05:39] <AlexC_> odnigmann: no. Ask the question first
[05:39] <Zaggynl> Hi, I can't save the sounds in the dapper repo version of xchat2, can anyone help?
[05:39] <PSIplus> iuui: LoooL.... Wait for half an hour or hour, you'll most probably be unlocked then
[05:39] <nolimitsoya> alin4lex, ubotu knows a bit
[05:39] <frogzoo> nolimitsoya: why not create a partition just for evolution, and mount that for the various OSs
[05:39] <revan> user@user-desktop:/home/user# dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq k3d
[05:39] <revan> dpkg: need an action option
[05:39] <humboldt> nolimitsoya: did you mean, the installed does not support LVM or you better don't use LVM?!
[05:39] <alin4lex> while booting it appears GRUB ERROR 21
[05:39] <nolimitsoya> frogzoo, thats what im doing, but i need to know what files to copy. .evolution didnt do it
[05:39] <iuui> psiplus: that's what i thought too : ) but it's been a day so....btw i see gaim right now, and am going to give it a whirl - thanks :)
[05:40] <jrib> revan: you never answered my question
[05:40] <odnigmann> AlexC_ http://paste.raciocine.com.br/105
[05:40] <Ndut2> btw guys anyone here using linksys WPC54G wireless card ?
[05:40] <revan> jrib, mine isn't answered
[05:40] <revan> oh
[05:40] <nolimitsoya> humboldt, i gave you links to an lvm guide. read it. the !foo calls ubotu to rescue
[05:40] <revan> oops, what did you ask jrib?
[05:40] <jrib> revan: I'm trying to answer it, but I need information :)  What version of ubuntu?
[05:40] <odnigmann> AlexC_  i dont can connect with wifi
[05:40] <idea> frogzoo: any ideas?
[05:40] <MN12BIRD> n00b here w a quick Q!  would ubunto run fine on a duron 900 with little (128) RAM??
[05:40] <nfp|kelnoky> how can i see if my swap is active?
[05:40] <humboldt> ubotu: Thank's for the links to the docs. But they refere to Woody and Breezy. Anyhow, I know how to setup raid and LVM. I just want to know if the installer supports it and if it also supports EVMS.
[05:40] <AlexC_> odnigmann: I know nothing about wifi, sorry
[05:40] <lazergunzpewpew> Anyone know how to install XMMs themes?
[05:40] <roler> thanks PSIplus
[05:41] <revan> jrib, i'm runnig 6.10 edgy
[05:41] <Zaggynl> Hi, I can't save the sounds in the dapper repo version of xchat2, can anyone help?
[05:41] <nolimitsoya> !thank you | humboldt
[05:41] <ubotu> humboldt: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:41] <odnigmann> AlexC_  ok tnks
[05:41] <jrib> revan: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3d/+bug/64848  solution in comments
[05:41] <erUSUL> MN12BIRD: better try with xubuntu or even puppy linux
[05:41] <frogzoo> idea: did you take a look at the end of the strace to see what makes it crash?
[05:41] <Lynoure> nfp|kelnoky:  free   can tell how much of it is in use, that's about as active as active gets
[05:41] <PSIplus> iuui: Okay... Watch out to install the gaim-irchelper as well ... It's very usefull
[05:41] <iuui> pisplus - apt-get?
[05:42] <humboldt> nolimitsoya: ah, this is how you talk to the bot.
[05:42] <PSIplus> iuui: apt-get install gaim-irchelper
[05:42] <PSIplus> iuui: Or in synaptic, or in adept or in aptitude... wherever you like ;-)
[05:42] <idea> frogzoo: i ran an strace as you suggested, got the same error message as when trying to run "themes".. what else do i need to do?
[05:42] <humboldt> anyhow, my question is not yet answered. Is there evms setup support in edgy's installer?
[05:42] <idea> frogzoo: no prior with strace ;/
[05:42] <iuui> psiplus - lol :) that's the beauty of *nix, so many options...
[05:42] <PSIplus> iuui: I use gaim for nearly all my communications [except mailing ;-) ]
[05:42] <frogzoo> idea: yes, but the strace was redirected to a temp file - just read the file with less
[05:43] <PSIplus> iuui: Yeah, for some it's the curse, but I love it
[05:43] <frogzoo> idea: 'strace gnome-theme-manager > /tmp/xxx 2>&1' - CRASH - less /tmp/xxx  - take a look at the end where the crash happens
[05:43] <kontingenz> is there a .config from my out-of-the-box edgy kernel? which I can use to compile a new one?
[05:43] <iuui> psiplus: yeah - i just connected, trying to figure it out. curse? definatly - but ubuntu is amazing, the great hope for a mainstream linux OS
[05:43] <revan> thanks jrib :D
[05:44] <frogzoo> kontingenz: try /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic
[05:44] <iuui> how long have you been using nix for?
[05:44] <erUSUL> kontingenz: sure in /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic
[05:44] <mick0> www.freepenguin.135.it
[05:44] <mick0> www.freepenguin.135.it
[05:44] <mick0> www.freepenguin.135.it
[05:44] <Dame> lol
[05:44] <kontingenz> frogzoo, erUSUL thanks!
[05:44] <PSIplus> iuui: Yep... Make yourself comftable with apt-get and apt-cache, and you'll never ever use a gui again ;-)
[05:45] <iuui> psiplus: famous last words :)
[05:45] <iuui> i got it, i'm in with gaim! thanks a million!
[05:45] <idea> frogzoo: ok.. opening file.. 275K.
[05:46] <uiiu> is gaim open source? and did you hear about AOL being free now?
[05:46] <UselessClown> yes
[05:46] <frogzoo> idea: '>' to skip to end of file
[05:46] <AlexC_> uiiu: yes Gaim is open source
[05:46] <LycoLoco> anyone around to help a noob out?
[05:46] <uiiu> hey - general poll for everyone here: what's your biggest quip with ubuntu?
[05:46] <idea> frogzoo: ok. i'm there.. what you needing?
[05:46] <AlexC_> LycoLoco: if you don't ask a question. No one will
[05:46] <uiiu> lycoloco: we'll do what we can :)
[05:46] <frogzoo> LycoLoco: we don't know what your problem is
[05:46] <LycoLoco> heh, ok
[05:47] <LycoLoco> I'm trying to copy over my profile from Firefox in Windows to Ubuntu
[05:47] <frogzoo> idea: look for errors, something that's causing your problem
[05:47] <AlexC_> What is it with people and asking for "help" we are _not_ physic, we can't tap into your brain and see what the problem is! So tell us!
[05:47] <LycoLoco> but no matter where I copy it, Firefox doesn't see the profile
[05:47] <LycoLoco> AlexC_, I just wanted to make sure people were around :-)
[05:47] <AlexC_> LycoLoco: there are 1006 users currently in ......
[05:48] <LycoLoco> true, I didn't notice that
[05:48] <AlexC_> =)
[05:48] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: copy it to ~/.mozilla/firefox and then edit profiles.ini
[05:48] <uiiu> lycoloco: don't really know much about that exactly, is the profile a single text file?
[05:48] <eXistenZ> Is there some kind of an applet of a terminal for the panel? to write commands fast, instead of launching the terminal every time I want to open a few
[05:48] <LycoLoco> uiiu, nah, it's a ton of files
[05:48] <eXistenZ> s/few/file
[05:48] <CraZy675> I just installed Kubuntu 6.10 and I'd like to install Apache, PHP, MySQL do I just apt get them cause I don't see them in adept?
[05:48] <ccvp> eXistenZ
[05:48] <ccvp> guess what
[05:48] <fuoco> is there some app like idvd for linux?
[05:48] <LycoLoco> PSIplus, I copied it there, but what should I edit profiles.ini to have in it?
[05:48] <ccvp> TransCendenZ > eXistenZ
[05:48] <AlexC_> eXistenZ: yes, you can add terminal to panel, or sue alt+f2 to bring up run
[05:48] <ccvp> your application sucks
[05:48] <frogzoo> eXistenZ: you can use deskbar for that
[05:48] <ccvp> TransCendenZ > eXistenZ
[05:48] <ccvp> your application sucks
[05:48] <secreet> What is wrong? -bash: ./hldsupdatetool.bin: cannot execute binary file
[05:49] <idea> frogzoo: not familiar with the output.. worth pastebinning?
[05:49] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: In profiles.ini change Profile0, enter at "Path=" your profile
[05:49] <skold> hey guys do you know how to use xchat-systray?
[05:49] <LycoLoco> ok
[05:49] <christopherl> someone know if there are more Ubuntu repositories that you can add to synaptic?
[05:49] <ccvp> * * * * TRANSCENDENZ > EXISTENZ * * * *
[05:49] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Just change the path of the default existing profile to the folder name of your windows profile
[05:49] <AlexC_> christopherl: you can add as many as you want, you just gotta find them
[05:49] <CraZy675> is there an easier way of installing all at once?
[05:49] <Ndut2> hmm guys
[05:49] <frogzoo> !sources | christopherl
[05:49] <ubotu> christopherl: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:49] <pirx> damn, things dont seem to be compiled with readline-support in ubuntu, is that possible?
[05:50] <AlexC_> CraZy675: sudo apt-get install prog1 prog2 prog3 prog4
[05:50] <Ndut2> where can i see what package included with xubuntu ?
[05:50] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Works usually instantly... I share a profile between Win32 and Linux :-)
[05:50] <t1000> does someone know how to remove libmtp 1.1.3?
[05:50] <LycoLoco> PSIplus, that won't work if I want to update the profile, and I don't trust CaptureNTFS to write to my partition
[05:50] <frogzoo> !easysource | christopherl
[05:50] <ubotu> christopherl: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:50] <secreet> Can somebody please highlight me...
[05:50] <christopherl> thanks
[05:50] <adi_> hello
[05:50] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Capture Su** ... Use ntfs-3g
[05:51] <idea> frogzoo: shall i pastebin?
[05:51] <CraZy675> what do I apt-get for mysql?
[05:51] <uiiu> psiplus: nice to know there's a resident guru online right now, got a question for you...
[05:51] <frogzoo> idea: try 'ldd `which gnome-theme-manager` & see if there's any libraries missing
[05:51] <secreet> CraZy675: apt-get install mysql-common
[05:51] <LycoLoco> PSIplus, lemme change what I said then, I don't trust ANY NTFS writing utility in Linux, just because if something does happen in that 1% of the time when it screws up, I'm sunk
[05:52] <CraZy675> thanks
[05:52] <idea> frogzoo: ok
[05:52] <AlexC_> CraZy675: are you tring to setup Apache, MySQL and PHP?
[05:52] <LycoLoco> all I want to do is have Firefox recognize this new profile, and it just won't see it, even though I've copied everything just like the guides and whatever else have said
[05:52] <uiiu> psiplus: my regular login user can't save to floppy /etc/fstab is edited with rw, user...
[05:52] <goonies> i have a directory that i dont have permission to view on my system, im trying sudo cd but it says invalid command
[05:52] <PSIplus> uiiu: okay, ask ;-)
[05:52] <CraZy675> AlexC_: Yes
[05:52] <Mikelo> my gdm restarts after i insert uname & pass
[05:52] <AlexC_> CraZy675: ok hold on, let me get a link
[05:52] <uiiu> psiplus (thanks in advance) - and the mount point /floppy literally won't let me change permissions once the flop is mounted
[05:52] <CraZy675> awesome a link
[05:52] <idea> frogzoo: can't see any errors there.. should i if stuff is missing?
[05:52] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: ntfs-3g doesn't screw up. try out.
[05:52] <CraZy675> the bot should know that link
[05:52] <Ndut2> Xubuntu Mirrors (6.10 Edgy Eft):
[05:53] <CraZy675> !LAMP
[05:53] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:53] <Ndut2> Xubuntu Mirrors (6.06.1 Dapper Drake LTS): ?
[05:53] <AlexC_> CraZy675: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:53] <t1000> does someone know how to remove libmtp 1.1.3?  i compiled it but need  to install an earlier version
[05:53] <jenda> Ubuntu QUIZ in 30 minutes in #ubuntu-trivia. Today's theme: Regular Expressions (and more!). Today's prize: Ubuntu Poster! (Sponsored by jrib)
[05:53] <uiiu> i chmod before i mount, and then it reverts once mounted. so i can't save anything to the floppy (write) unless i'm root.
[05:53] <frogzoo> idea: you'd see a LHS with no => RHS
[05:53] <Judicata> goonies: if you're very careful you can use "sudo bash" and do whatever - but I it is not recommended.
[05:53] <CraZy675> yuppers
[05:53] <PSIplus> uiiu: Is it vfat-floppy or minix floppy?
[05:53] <LycoLoco> PSIplus, I don't trust it with my data that I haven't backed up. now, if I could get some help with getting firefox to recognize this profile... :-)
[05:53] <Ndut2> guys can recommend me which one to get and what actually the different ?
[05:53] <goonies> i remember there was a command to become root for a while
[05:53] <goonies> not just on one command
[05:53] <mirak> does opening in a terminal works for you in nautilus ?
[05:53] <Ndut2> 6.10, codename Edgy Eft (stable release)
[05:53] <Ndut2> 6.06.1, codename Dapper Drake (stable release), with Long Term Support.
[05:54] <frogzoo> LycoLoco: there are ff backup progs, might be best
[05:54] <Ndut2> it alll say stable release is it just the different with long term support ?
[05:54] <uiiu> psiplus: is vfat
[05:54] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Well... Usually it works how I told you, just copy over the folder and enter it in profile.ini as path
[05:54] <Math^> hello, someone using gnome-commander?
[05:54] <Judicata> goonies: that has the same effect - it opens a bash (the command line) with root privileges.
[05:54] <LycoLoco> ok
[05:54] <idea> frogzoo: all looks good.
[05:54] <uiiu> psiplus: hey btw, don't let me overwhelm you here, i thought everything was cleared up with lyco, my bad ;)
[05:54] <mrnysegy1981> Hi all, I'm a real newb. I'm having a problem getting wireless to work. I have a Latitude c640. I'm running networkmanager 0.6.2. I have installed ndiswrapper. I've tried wireless with a PCMCIA  Buffalo card, USB LInksys, USB Netgear. No luck with any of them and I have installed all their drivers using ndiswrapper. Any help would be really great.
[05:54] <PSIplus> uiiu: Well, then add an mount-option in fstab: umask=002,dmask=002,fmask=002,gid=46,rw
[05:55] <LycoLoco> uiiu, it's cool :-) no worries
[05:55] <Math^> i cant change mod files in some ftp sites with gnome-commander
[05:55] <Math^> it says: no options for it
[05:55] <uiiu> thanks guys (gals?) :)
[05:55] <PSIplus> uiiu: (gid 46 is in ubuntu by default the plugdev-group) ... add yourself to the plugdev-group
[05:55] <mirak> what can I use to write a VIDEO_TS folder on a DVD and make it playable in a DVD player ?
[05:55] <Math^> but in gftp its no problem
[05:55] <Math^> or lftp
[05:55] <mirak> what can I use to write a VIDEO_TS folder on a DVD and make it playable in a DVD player ?
[05:55] <PSIplus> uiiu: next time you mount the floppy, you have full write-permissions, even as user
[05:55] <mrnysegy1981> Hi all, I'm a real newb. I'm having a problem getting wireless to work. I have a Latitude c640. I'm running networkmanager 0.6.2. I have installed ndiswrapper. I've tried wireless with a PCMCIA  Buffalo card, USB LInksys, USB Netgear. No luck with any of them and I have installed all their drivers using ndiswrapper. Any help would be really great.
[05:55] <pirx> does anyone know how i can recompile a package with readline support?
[05:56] <PSIplus> uiiu: add "user" to options in fstab if you want to be able to mount it as user
[05:56] <AlexC_> mrnysegy1981: please wait more than 1 min to re-ask your question.
[05:56] <Judicata> mrnysegy1981: you might want to wait a few more minutes before repeated again...
[05:56] <Math^> ...nobody using gnome-commander?
[05:56] <Judicata> mrnysegy1981: Chances are, if someone knows they're away or busy, and if you wait a bit and ask again, someone might come along.
[05:56] <PSIplus> uiiu: example: /dev/fd0       /media/floppy    vfat    umask=002,dmask=002,fmask=002,g
[05:56] <PSIplus> id=46,noauto,rw,user,iocharset=utf8,codepage=850        0 0
[05:57] <uiiu> psiplus: perfectly explained - thanks. i'll give it a shot. to add myself to another group, i can use SU?
[05:58] <PSIplus> uiiu: That's how I do It on my [edgy]  workstation... Note the "iocharset" and "codepage"-setting, they are very usefull if you use UTF-8-System (by default in ubuntu) and have filenames with special chars (german umlauts for example - )
[05:58] <PSIplus> uiiu: sudo? sure
[05:58] <idea> frogzoo: what if i installed kde instead? would that fix the issues? ;)
[05:58] <PSIplus> uiiu: Well you can use ~any~ group you like
[05:59] <PSIplus> uiiu: It's just that plugdev is the group for this kind of job in ubuntu ;-) ...
[05:59] <ckagy> i'm having some trouble doing an installation of 6.1 server and am looking for some advice on what to try next
[05:59] <uiiu> psiplus: ahh... gotchya - thanks :). so i edit fstab, then put myself in the group....i'll try that now.
[06:00] <AlexC_> ckagy: I think what you could try next is asking a question, or telling us what trouble youre having!
[06:00] <frogzoo> idea: how'd it break in the first place?
[06:00] <PSIplus> uiiu: Don't forget to re-login to make the group change apply... have fun!
[06:00] <linker2u> wht are +c and +n mode
[06:00] <uiiu> psiplus: awwwesome! :) will do, and thanks again.
[06:00] <mrnysegy1981> Hi all, I'm a real newb. I'm having a problem getting wireless to work. I have a Latitude c640. I'm running networkmanager 0.6.2. I have installed ndiswrapper. I've tried wireless with a PCMCIA  Buffalo card, USB LInksys, USB Netgear. No luck with any of them and I have installed all their drivers using ndiswrapper. Any help would be really great.
[06:01] <ckagy> i'm installing on an older athlon xp system, based on a via km266 chipset.  i've tried various combinations of boot params (acpi=off, agp=off, noapic, nolapic, pci=noacpi) and i get either a kernel panic or the install begins, but hangs
[06:01] <ckagy> usually, if it hangs, it is when it is instaling the base system
[06:02] <idea> frogzoo: after a dist-upgrade
[06:02] <PSIplus> ckagy: Does knoppix work?
[06:02] <Math^> NOONE USING GNOME-COMMANDER???
[06:02] <linker2u> stat /p
[06:02] <wastrel> what's gnome comander?
[06:02] <Math^> rofl
[06:02] <nitromaster> hi guys
[06:02] <AlexC_> morning,
[06:02] <nitromaster> hi
[06:02] <nitromaster> hi
[06:02] <ckagy> PSIplus: knoppix will boot, but when it starts up X i usually get a SIGTerm
[06:02] <Math^> just something like midgnight-commander and tux-commander
[06:02] <t1000> someone here that can hep me with libmtp?
[06:03] <frogzoo> idea: have you tried searching launchpad? probably a known issue
[06:03] <AlexC_> t1000: ask the question!!!!
[06:03] <PSIplus> ckagy: What gfx-card do you have?
[06:03] <ckagy> i'm tring to install 6.1 server specifically so that i don't mess with x at first
[06:03] <t1000> ok sorry
[06:03] <tdoggette> #schooltool
[06:03] <AlexC_> Arrrrggghhh, why do people insist on not asking the question. Don't ask to ask a question, just ask the blimming question :P
[06:03] <t1000> does someone know how to remove libmtp 1.1.3?  i compiled it but need  to install an earlier version
[06:03] <PSIplus> ckagy: Good... You can try the following:
[06:03] <ckagy> i've got a gforce 2 mx400, and have turned disabled the onboard video
[06:03] <Mikelo> my gdm restarts after i insert uname & pass
[06:04] <mrnysegy1981> does anyone here know about wireless networking?
[06:04] <AlexC_> t1000: sudo apt-get remove libmtp   should remove it,
[06:04] <idea> frogzoo: i've looked all over google. no real answers, other than to totally hose my schemas.
[06:04] <PSIplus> ckagy: 1. Boot in knoppix, using flag: "knoppix 2" ... make partitioions, make filesystems, mount them
[06:04] <ckagy> PSIplus: okay
[06:05] <PSIplus> ckagy: 2. debootstrap... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[06:05] <PSIplus> ckagy: Use it ~like this~, make a base installation
[06:05] <ChrisCarey> hi
[06:05] <AlexC_> hello,
[06:05] <expensivenode> hello
[06:05] <PSIplus> ckagy: chroot to it, install kernel, install grub, make it bootable (install-grub)
[06:05] <ckagy> PSIplus: checking the URL now
[06:05] <ChrisCarey> #@$!
[06:06] <frogzoo> idea: possibly...: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1164346&postcount=11
[06:06] <odnigmann> why my interface network in ifconfig is eth1 and in iwconfig is eth1 too
[06:06] <odnigmann> dont have problem?
[06:06] <PSIplus> ckagy: The howto in the wiki is make for chroot-envs, but It works nearly the same way for normal systems...
[06:06] <t1000> alexC it was installed manually by typing ./configure, make, make install, so that does not work
[06:06] <PSIplus> ckagy: man debootstrap is a fine manual as well
[06:06] <AlexC_> t1000: I see, I'm not sure then
[06:07] <mrnysegy1981> LInux is really not ready for general use. I'm having a hell of a time getting everything working. I'm just about ready to go back to windows
[06:07] <AlexC_> mrnysegy1981: then stop trolling and go back.
[06:07] <variant> 1000 nicks.. not bad
[06:07] <wastrel> mrnysegy1981:  it's still got problems but it's worlds easier than it used to be
[06:07] <frogzoo> mrnysegy1981: there's a steep learning curve, but there was for doze, you just don't recall
[06:07] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: LOL!
[06:07] <idea> frogzoo: thanks. let me check that
[06:07] <AlexC_> mrnysegy1981: you can not complain that Linux is not ready when you've spent 10 mins in IRC, which no one has been able to help you
[06:07] <mrnysegy1981> I've been working on this wireless problem for 3 days and can't get it done
[06:07] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: You are free to do so :-) ... You are not forced to do anything arround here
[06:08] <wastrel> mrnysegy1981:  that's really the fault of your wireless vendor not providing a linux driver.
[06:08] <frogzoo> !wifi | mrnysegy1981
[06:08] <ubotu> mrnysegy1981: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:08] <wastrel> not linux per se
[06:08] <variant> mrnysegy1981: yeah, wireless is still imature in gnu/linux.. blame the manufacturers
[06:08] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: Wirelesss su** in general... WinXP SP2 has pretty similar problems ...
[06:08] <mrnysegy1981> i've tried three separate wireless cards and installed ndiswrapper, but no luck
[06:08] <wasabi_> Howdy. I have two sound cards. Both are using alsa, and the oss emulation. Configuring alsa to use one by default is easy... what about configuring oss to use one by default? Basically right now I'm manually renaming /dev/dsp1 to /dev/dsp. That sucks.
[06:09] <AlexC_> ok, when someone says they've tried three they usualy mean 1
[06:09] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: Why ndiswrapper? isn't there even one of your cards running with native linux drivers?
[06:09] <mrnysegy1981> tried a linksys usb nic a netgear usb nic and a buffalo pcmcia nic
[06:09] <variant> mrnysegy1981: which cards (include model numbers)
[06:09] <frogzoo> pshaw - my ipw2200 has always worked perfectly - the intel wifi stuff is great
[06:09] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: Fine. What chipsets do they have?
[06:09] <wastrel> <3 ipw2200
[06:09] <wastrel> yup
[06:10] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: The Product-names are worth nothing
[06:10] <funkyHat> My swap partition keeps getting corrupted/broken somehow (meaning I have to mkswap again before I can use it, then update the UUIDs in fstab and /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume)... anyone else found this? (it does seem to be hibernate that's doing it)
[06:10] <mrnysegy1981> linksys wusbf54g, netgear wg111, buffalo wli-cb-g54a
[06:10] <mrnysegy1981> how do i find out what chipset they have
[06:11] <Judicata> hey, is there somewhere that lists what is in each repository? (I'd like to see a list of what is included in the non-free repo).
[06:11] <frogzoo> funkyHat: dude, you so have a failing disk there - install smartmontools
[06:11] <ajopaul_> any file recovery tool for reiserfs filesystem??
[06:11] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: lsusb -v prints you details about usb devices
[06:11] <mzanfardino> how do I setup my five-button microsoft mouse to work properly?
[06:11] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: gimme a sec, I look afer the netgear, guess it works with a native-driver
[06:11] <mbutUbuntu> hi I was installing all dependencies for ardour from sources packages
[06:11] <frogzoo> !mouse | mzanfardino
[06:11] <ubotu> mzanfardino: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[06:12] <mbutUbuntu> I installed glib 2.12.0
[06:12] <mbutUbuntu> but atk 1.9 requires glib 2.5.7
[06:12] <mzanfardino> domo arigoto, mr. ubotu... :)
[06:12] <t1000> does someone know how to remove manually installed libmtp 1.1.3?  i compiled it but need  to install an earlier version
[06:12] <mbutUbuntu> what can I do??
[06:12] <bronze_0_1> !video
[06:12] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:12] <jrib> t1000: what command did you use to install it
[06:13] <bronze_0_1> awsome. Good bot!
[06:13] <kiamo> heya
[06:13] <kiamo> how do I play dvds? lol
[06:13] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: as I thought, It's a prism54... You don't need ndiswrapper... See this: http://www.prism54.org/newdrivers.html
[06:13] <mrnysegy1981> thank you
[06:13] <t1000> jrib, ./configure, make, sudo make install
[06:14] <jrib> t1000: you can try make unisntall from the source directory but it is not guaranteed to exist
[06:14] <mrnysegy1981> i tried the lsusb -v and I didn't see the chipset there
[06:14] <AlexC_> kiamo: install more codecs, hold on
[06:14] <revan> jrib, I saw the bug report but I don't know what to do witht he .debdiff file
[06:14] <kiamo> :) thanks alex ;)
[06:14] <ajopaul_> any file recovery tool for reiserfs filesystem?? am on edgy?
[06:14] <AlexC_> kiamo: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/music.html
[06:14] <jrib> revan: did you see the last comment?
[06:14] <t1000> ok, thanx
[06:14] <bronze_0_1> !wmv
[06:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:14] <kiamo> thanks ill take a look ;)
[06:14] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: However; support out-of-the-box isn't fully working for all the crap yet (but that's not only a GNU/Linux fault, but more the vendor's mess) ... It's getting better... Just try googling arround, you should find solutions quickly
[06:15] <revan> jrib, yes I did but that didn't work. it says the /usr/bin/pythoncentral folder doesn't exist :o
[06:15] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: And when it works, use tools like "wlassistant" and "kwlan"
[06:16] <odnigmann> please.. dont ping when i unplug the cable ethernet and use the wifi conection with kwifimanager
[06:16] <revan> jrib: mv: cannot stat `/usr/bin/pythoncentral': No such file or directory
[06:16] <bronze_0_1> odnigmann: is that a question?
[06:16] <odnigmann> yes
[06:17] <LycoLoco> PSIplus, could I get a little more help on the firefox profile issue?
[06:17] <odnigmann> bronze_0_1 i dont connet
[06:17] <bronze_0_1> could you rephrase it please?
[06:17] <Hoag> Hey. Is there a way to copy and paste files and text from the Terminal Server Client? I can copy and paste fine within it, but not from the remote computer to my own, etc/
[06:17] <jrib> revan: he made a typo, it should be pycentral not pythoncentral
[06:17] <idea> frogzoo: man! you are a hero! i can launch "themes" now :) i guess i need to logout to see if the menu issue is fixed?
[06:17] <revan> oh, ok
[06:17] <Mikelo> my gdm crashes after i insert uname & pass, i am using vesa driver
[06:17] <odnigmann> bronze_0_1 i use the kwifimanager..
[06:17] <frogzoo> idea: cool, yep relog & see
[06:18] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Yep... So... Did you copy the profile dir over? Let's make the example: Copy the profle over (just the folder with extensions.ini and so on in it) ... rename it to "zero" (just an easy to remember name)
[06:18] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Then use the profile name I'll paste to you as msg
[06:18] <LycoLoco> PSIplus, yeah, lemme show you what I've done
[06:18] <odnigmann> bronze_0_1 i use him..  but dont ping
[06:19] <odnigmann> bronze_0_1 , i do this..  iwconfig eth1 essid
[06:19] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Okay, showme...
[06:19] <revan> thanks a millino jrib! :D
[06:19] <odnigmann> bronze_0_1 but when i unplug the cable ethernet and use de wifi.. dont have connection
[06:19] <freakynl> heya, have a strange issue right after booting (on battery) or unplugging my laptop from ac the battery monitor will say i have only 2 minutes left (and it just to shutdown then but changed config) with 93% battery power. after a little while it will say 1 and 50 minutes or so any ideas?
[06:20] <ctothej> ubuntu uses GTK desktop envornment right?
[06:20] <LycoLoco> PSIplus, got it working - not sure why it wouldn't take before, but now it did
[06:20] <LycoLoco> thanks!
[06:20] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Thougth so ;-) ... Have Fun!
[06:20] <odnigmann> bronze_0_1 ..
[06:20] <idea> frogzoo: thanks so much. all working great now!
[06:20] <frogzoo> idea: please consider updating the bug report: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf2/+bug/50150
[06:21] <ferus> Hello
[06:21] <t1000> jrib, make uninstall did not work anything else i can try?
[06:21] <idea> frogzoo: never used that before. but i'll take a  look
[06:21] <Dame> !ati
[06:21] <ctothej> why isnt the gnome-desktop-environment installed by default with Ubuntu?
[06:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:21] <bronze_0_1> odnigmann: I've never used wi-fi. I asked you to rephrase because I couldn't tell what you were asking for, Hopefully someone in the channel can help
[06:21] <idea> frogzoo: one more thing.. any easy way to (auto)mount my ntfs partitions?
[06:22] <frogzoo> !ntfs | idea
[06:22] <ubotu> idea: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:22] <bronze_0_1> odnigmann: I do undertsand what you are asking for now.
[06:22] <ferus> I have a problem
[06:22] <PSIplus> ferus: really?
[06:22] <odnigmann> bronze_0_1 ok tnks
[06:22] <idea> frogzoo: thanks for your help. appreciate that immensely :)
[06:22] <eyalw> need help with apt. i have an update waiting in the update manager for sometime now that always errors when i try to perform it. its called: wpasupplicant (client support for WPA.... from verison 0.5... to...) and i cant get rid of it ?????
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[06:23] <bronze_0_1> ferus: Dont ask to ask, dont ask "can someone help me", Just ask your question. someone will chime in if they can help
[06:23] <frogzoo> idea: yw, enjoy
[06:24] <mrnysegy1981> does anyone know of a way for me to find out the chipset on any nic I plug in?
[06:24] <bronze_0_1> lspci?
[06:24] <ferus> my problem is -> I have Firefox and i  don't  have a settings page,  but i would to change my settings
[06:24] <ferus> what i must do?
[06:24] <eyalw> need help with apt. i have an update waiting in the update manager for sometime now that always errors when i try to perform it. its called: wpasupplicant (client support for WPA.... from verison 0.5... to...) and i cant get rid of it ?????    help
[06:24] <nitromaster> #schooltool
[06:24] <freakynl> ferus: ? no settings page? try about:config
[06:24] <bronze_0_1> ferus: try about: config in the address bar?
[06:24] <PSIplus> ferus: No settings-dialogue? Why that?
[06:24] <ferus> but i'm n00b in linux,
[06:24] <Trixsey> I'm new to Ubuntu and the open source community, and I'm exploring its wounders. If anyone could recommend cool open source programs I'd be really happy! Any recommendations is fine, I'm out to explore the open source community in general!
[06:25] <PSIplus> ferus: What's wrong with your fox?
[06:25] <bronze_0_1> ferus: Press F9\
[06:25] <bronze_0_1> "F9"
[06:25] <ferus> inothing
[06:25] <bronze_0_1> ferus: ficed?
[06:25] <PSIplus> ferus: Ther isn't any "Edit" -> "Settings" Dialogue?
[06:25] <bronze_0_1> er "Fixed"?
[06:26] <ferus> nothing...
[06:26] <SuperMario> !addon
[06:26] <Hoag> Hey. Is there a way to copy and paste files and text from the Terminal Server Client? I can copy and paste fine within it, but not from the remote computer to my own, etc/
[06:26] <Judicata> Trixsey: well, its impossible to know where to start. What OS are you running?
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <trev_> when i run tremulous isntalled from synaptic it is very slow but when i run the .run file from the games website it is fast, does anyoen know hwy?
[06:26] <freakynl> edit -> preferences, there is not settings
[06:26] <bronze_0_1> ferus: do you have any menubar in ff?
[06:26] <dime> Trixsey
[06:26] <dime> gaim for messaging
[06:27] <SupreMe_Gnu> hello! what's the command to mount .img files? doesn't seem to be the same as .iso files. Thanks
[06:27] <dime> ekiga for voip
[06:27] <SushiP> Could someone please help me with a usb modem driver package problem?
[06:27] <PSIplus> ferus: That's strange... maybe you should remove your profile and restart a new one? try this: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
[06:27] <erUSUL> !anyone
[06:27] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:27] <Judicata> there is a library of Free (FOSS) software.... just don't add the non-free repositories and play around, and you'll be set.
[06:28] <zeasier> i'm writing a script to sync local files with a web gallery. i need to tell the server that the sync is finished so it can post process. what command can i use to request an url and display it to the terminal?
[06:29] <SushiP> Mmkay, I'll rephrase my question. Does anyone here have experience with EciAdsl and can help me to get it working?
[06:29] <CarlFK> fiend asked me to do "setenv CVSROOT" but I get -bash: setenv: command not found
[06:29] <erUSUL> zeasier: wget ? curl?
[06:29] <zeasier> erUSUL: oh yeah, curl. i'll look into that thanks
[06:29] <Judicata> CarlFK: gotta watch those fiends :)
[06:30] <SupreMe_Gnu> is there no way to mount .img files in linux?
[06:30] <uiiu> psiplus: the floppy works fine now, thank you SO much. i still don't know what exactly i did to fstab :), but i'm googling to learn more....
[06:30] <CarlFK> zeasier: why do you need "display it to the terminal"  ?
[06:30] <variant> SupreMe_Gnu: yes there is
[06:30] <skvn> how can i change my system locale to ISO 8859-1?
[06:30] <bob535> Grrr, something is really messed up on my machine. Ever since I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy
[06:30] <CarlFK> SupreMe_Gnu: you can mount anything. what is it?
[06:31] <freakynl> SupreMe_Gnu: mount /path/to.img /mnt/somedir -t iso?
[06:31] <SupreMe_Gnu> variant, ok, i'll try that, thanks
[06:31] <bob535> A lot of my programs stopped working, including synaptic
[06:31] <PSIplus> uiiu: Yah... Have a look at the manpage (man fstab and man mount), it's explained there pretty good... You're welcome... :-) ...
[06:31] <zeasier> CarlFK: i'd just like some feed back that post processing worked
[06:31] <CarlFK> SupreMe_Gnu: mount -o loop fool.iso somewhere/
[06:31] <variant> SupreMe_Gnu: mount -t iso9660 file.img /tmp/file -o loop
[06:31] <kyja> I have that trouble sometimes and have to restart
[06:31] <CarlFK> assuming .img is an iso :)
[06:32] <CarlFK> zeasier: what someone said: curl
[06:32] <SuperMario> porn
[06:32] <danilo287> i just installed beryl on edgy with the nvidia driver and now i cant move any of my windows and some of the screen is distored.... anyone know how to fix this
[06:32] <danilo287> i did sudo apt-get remove beryl but i still have the problem
[06:32] <freakynl> anyone know why tahoma isn't included with corefonts?
[06:33] <Smirno1> whats "automagic" login mean when you go to Login settings
[06:33] <riotkittie> danilo287: does restarting X help ?
[06:33] <freakynl> Smirno1: i think no authentication it just logs you on
[06:33] <juano> SupreMe_Gnu: sudo mkdir /media/isofile
[06:33] <skvn> how can i change my system locale to ISO 8859-1?
[06:33] <danilo287> nope.... i tried doing ctrl alt backspace and it doesnt help
[06:33] <juano> SupreMe_Gnu: then sudo mount file.iso /media/isofile/ -t iso9660 -o loop
[06:34] <bclinch> can anybody please tell me the absolute minimum requirements for ubuntu?
[06:34] <Smirno1> How do I login a user automatically when I turn on my computer
[06:34] <Judicata> danilo287: remember that beryl is beta (and some people have had problems with the latest update, I hear)
[06:34] <kyja> final solution is to push and hold powerbutton. ad hope it repairs on restart
[06:34] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: modify the gdm options
[06:34] <zeasier> i'm displaying this script in a gnome-terminal, but it closes when the script is finished. is there something like a special character i can output to stop the terminal from outputing so you can see what happened?
[06:34] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: yeah but to what
[06:34] <variant> bclinch: you could install and use it on a pentium (1) but it will be pos
[06:34] <CarlFK> bclinch: im gona 386, 32mb ram 350mb disk
[06:35] <variant> !requirements
[06:35] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: enable autologin and specify the user
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <juano> zeasier: how bout saving it to a file?
[06:35] <Judicata> CarlFK: setenv is a C shell command, so you gotta run it in a C shell.
[06:35] <CarlFK> Judicata: thanks
[06:35] <bronze_0_1> zeasier: open a terminal to the shell,  execute the script and pipe it into less
[06:35] <variant> bclinch: ubuntu is'nt really a distro for very low spec machines.. there are a bunch out there that will perform much much better
[06:35] <bronze_0_1> zeasier: eg script | less
[06:35] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: the user i want isnt showing up in the drop down ???
[06:36] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: you want root? (bad boy!)
[06:36] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: no i want mythtv
[06:36] <zeasier> bronze_0_1: ah alright
[06:36] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: why the fuck would i want root lol
[06:36] <variant> bclinch: xubuntu is quite good for lower spec systems though
[06:36] <bronze_0_1> aha - good Boy!
[06:36] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: is mythtv a valid user right now?
[06:36] <eyalw> need help with apt. i have an update waiting in the update manager for sometime now that always errors when i try to perform it. its called: wpasupplicant (client support for WPA.... from verison 0.5... to...) and i cant get rid of it ?????    help
[06:36] <Judicata> bclinch: if xubuntu doesn't work, try "damn small linux"
[06:36] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: yeah i login as him all the time
[06:36] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: look in the gdm text config file
[06:36] <rmorris84> what is a *.run file? and how do I do anything with is?
[06:37] <bronze_0_1> /etc/X/gdm/... somewhere in there
[06:37] <CarlFK> what port does cvs server listen on?
[06:37] <bclinch> variant: It's a 600mhz, 6gb, 128mb laptop, would ubuntu run smooth on that? I'm used to ubuntu really, so it's nice to stick to it
[06:37] <variant> rmorris84: chmod +x /path/tofile.run && ./file.run
[06:37] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: edit the config file by hand, read thru the comments carefully to setermine what to change
[06:37] <trev_> all of a suden none of my 3d games will run fast, are there any new nvideo issues?
[06:37] <CarlFK> bclinch: the 128 is going to hurt, but just a bit
[06:37] <variant> bclinch: it would run yes, a little slow though
[06:37] <variant> bclinch: try xubuntu you wil lhave better experience
[06:38] <juano> bclinch: i suppose it will run fairly yes
[06:38] <n2diy> bclinch: the ram is on the low side, otherwise your ok.
[06:38] <The_Belgain> hi there - quick question.  how do i get a given background app to get autostarted when ubuntu start up?
[06:38] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: haha stupid GUI wouldnt let me select it but i edited by hand... lets see if it works
[06:38] <variant> bclinch: make a good sized bit of swap.. 256mb and you should be ok
[06:38] <The_Belgain> i've tried adding it to rc.local, but that doens't seem to be working
[06:38] <bronze_0_1> cool!
[06:38] <juano> bclinch: variant is right, you should use Xfce for GUI
[06:38] <CarlFK> bclinch: I run it on P2-333, 128 (for testing) and it is "ok", but add even 32 and it is noticeably better.  after 256 I don't notice much improvement
[06:39] <The_Belgain> i'm trying to autostart VLC listening on a telnet interface
[06:39] <The_Belgain> adding "vlc -I Telnet &" to rc.local doesn't work
[06:39] <variant> The_Belgain: you want it when you log in or when the system starts?
[06:39] <erUSUL> The_Belgain: it depends
[06:39] <The_Belgain> when the system starts
[06:39] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: while im at this, any tips to stop it from showing sh-3.1$ in my shell
[06:39] <CarlFK> bclinch: a huge factor will be what you are used to.  if your main box is a P4-3ghz, the laoptop will totally suck
[06:40] <The_Belgain> (it needs to serve content to a Hauppauge mediamvp box)
[06:40] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: in .bash_profile change the setting of the PS1 variable - it sets your shgell promt
[06:40] <bronze_0_1> *shell
[06:40] <bronze_0_1> .bash_profile is in the user's homedir.
[06:40] <bronze_0_1> *each user's
[06:41] <bclinch> CarlFK: My day to day box is p3-1ghz, and it runs great in my opinion, It's not like i do any intensive stuff
[06:41] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: to what
[06:41] <CarlFK> bclinch: good - the lap won;t seem that bad.  do the install - not like it is that hard...
[06:42] <SushiP> Does anyone here have experience with EciAdsl and can help me to get it working?
[06:42] <The_Belgain> so variant, erUSUL, how can i get vlc to autostart?
[06:42] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: never mind, it was using sh as the default shell, i fixed that now
[06:42] <bclinch> cheers everyone, bye
[06:43] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: thanks
[06:43] <Trixsey> Judicata, I thought I mentioned that in my message.. I'm using Ubuntu..
[06:43] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: go to www.tldp.org , look up the list of "how to's" and look for the one on setting the prompt.  You can do anything you want with your prompt (literally)
[06:43] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: yeah i know lol, i just never remember how to change the shell prompt nor the syntax
[06:43] <junk1> hi all this ubuntu 6.0.6 sucks for a newbie im lost
[06:44] <ctothej> how do I mount .bin & .cue cd images?
[06:44] <erUSUL> The_Belgain: add it to /etc/init.d/rc.local or make a custom initscript based on /etc/init.d/skeleton and add it to the init system with update-rc.d
[06:44] <zeasier> bash question here,
[06:44] <zeasier> $ gnome-terminal -x ./script | less
[06:44] <zeasier> pipes gnome-terminal's output. how do i pipe script?
[06:44] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: export PS1="blah blah"
[06:45] <bronze_0_1> zeasier: dont use x. start the terminal, then type the command in at the shell promt "inside" the terminal.
[06:45] <junk1> read a bit an you see im rite  you cant really use ubuntu inless you know stuff or know someone that does
[06:45] <The_Belgain> so what's the difference between /etc/rc.local and /etc/init.d/rc.local?
[06:46] <zeasier> bronze_0_1: i'm trying to write a script that can be executed with a launcher icon
[06:46] <nfp|kelnoky> none of my apps use any swap space...normal?
[06:46] <bronze_0_1> zeasier: understood, but you can't do that while you are debugging the script.
[06:47] <bronze_0_1> debug in terminal first, then create launcher version
[06:47] <Hoag> Hey. Is there a way to copy and paste files and text from the Terminal Server Client? I can copy and paste fine within it, but not from the remote computer to my own, etc?
[06:47] <erUSUL> The_Belgain: /etc/init.d/rc.local executes /etc/rc.local so i was wrong and you have to add the vlc call to /etc/rc.local
[06:47] <surgy> how do you set a program to be the defualt program associated with a particular extension, for example i want VLC player to be associated with every divx and avi file
[06:47] <bronze_0_1> surgy: default from what program> firefos? file manager?
[06:47] <The_Belgain> yeah, i've already added it and it doesn't seem to be working - should i be running it with an & to background it?
[06:48] <ctothej> My usb harddrives auto mount, how can I make them mount with ntfs-3g??
[06:48] <surgy> bronze_0_1: well i want it so that instead of opening kafeine when i open a movie to open vlc
[06:48] <erUSUL> The_Belgain: mostly yes, have you restarted the system??
[06:48] <The_Belgain> yup
[06:49] <Judicata> surgy: In nautilus, if you right click, and "open with," I think it makes it the default.
[06:49] <The_Belgain> it seems to be something wrong with just the vlc autostarting in rc.local - i've added an autostart for a tftp server in rc.local and that works
[06:49] <bronze_0_1> surgy, open from what program?
[06:49] <surgy> VLC
[06:49] <ajopaul_> any file recovery tool for reiserfs filesystem??
[06:50] <The_Belgain> is it possible that would fail if vlc needed an x server and it wasn't available at that point in the bootup?
[06:50] <bronze_0_1> surgy, not "to" what program, "from" what program
[06:50] <Judicata> surgy: also, right click, properties, "Open With" tab.
[06:50] <surgy> bronze_0_1: curently the defualt program set is kafeine, i wish to change that to make VLC player my defualt application for opening divx and avi
[06:51] <surgy> judicata that just opens it ounce with the selected application that does not set it as defualt
[06:51] <bronze_0_1> surgy is this from within firefox or from your desktop?
[06:51] <surgy> bronze_0_1: has nothing to do with firefox
[06:51] <bronze_0_1> surgy or is this from within the filemanager?
[06:52] <surgy> bronze_0_1: filemanager i supose or desktop,
[06:52] <bronze_0_1> surgy which one
[06:52] <ademan> in a source tarball what does the ./INSTALL file contain?
[06:52] <erUSUL> ademan: install instructions?
[06:53] <surgy> bronze_0_1: your not making sense to me, the file is in both my desktop and my filemanager sense my desktop is in my filemanager, i want my media player which happens to be vlc media player to be the defualt application that opens divx and avi
[06:53] <cabldevil> anyone help me I jsut installed ubuntu 4 days ago and from the logs it keeps rebooting around 7:30  but i cant find out why??
[06:53] <mrnysegy1981> need some help with wireless
[06:54] <bronze_0_1> surgy, the desktop is not always the file manager.
[06:54] <bronze_0_1> so we will assume desktop
[06:54] <surgy> bronze_0_1: nevermind thanks for trying, i figured it out
[06:54] <NoNo_231> #ubuntu-gr
[06:54] <mrnysegy1981> i've been trying to use iwconfig. this is what i get : bthomas@bthomas-laptop:~$ iwconfig
[06:54] <mrnysegy1981> lo        no wireless extensions.
[06:54] <mrnysegy1981> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[06:54] <mrnysegy1981> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[06:54] <mrnysegy1981> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"rome"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[06:54] <mrnysegy1981>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[06:54] <mrnysegy1981>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:54] <humboldt> I am desperately trying to find out, how well EVMS is supported in EDGY.
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[06:55] <surgy> bronze_0_1: its under file associations in settings
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[06:55] <Judicata> mrnysegy1981: please use pastebin
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981> wlan0     Auto  Access Point: Not-Associated
[06:55] <bronze_0_1> surgy find the settings menu for your desktop and then find the "file associations" setting in there. thats where you need to set the program which will open the designated extension.
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[06:55] <mwe> mrnysegy1981: don't do that
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981> sorry
[06:55] <uiiu> clabledevil: i don't know the anser to your problem - but it sounds like theres an automatic shutdown program
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981> what is pastebin
[06:55] <mwe> mr
[06:55] <Judicata> !pastebin
[06:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:55] <mwe> !paste| mrnysegy1981
[06:55] <ubotu> mrnysegy1981: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:55] <uiiu> shutdown is a command, you may want to try man shutdown for more info
[06:55] <cabldevil> uiiu: yea its odd i donr know where to start
[06:56] <ctothej> My usb harddrive auto mounts, how can I make it do so with ntfs-3g??
[06:56] <cabldevil> ctothej: I think there is the info on the how-to for ntfs-3g
[06:56] <uiiu> cabledevil: there's a command you can use in terminal "shutdown", that i /think\ can be used to set up automatic shutdown times. you may want to try "man shutdown" to read the manual page on it. because there may be a way to reset, or UNset the shudown
[06:56] <mwe> uiiu: I have never heard of automagic shutdown on a default install, though
[06:57] <humboldt> Is EVMS not supported by the installer only for the reason that there is no GUI available yet or is it considered not stable enough by the Ubuntu team?
[06:57] <uiiu> clothej: havfe you tried editing /etc/fstab
[06:57] <humboldt> !evms
[06:57] <ubotu> evms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.5-15 (edgy), package size 84 kB, installed size 304 kB
[06:57] <ctothej> cabldevil: how to on the wiki?
[06:57] <cabldevil> i think i have the link on by blog  mynick.blogspot.com
[06:57] <uiiu> mwe: netiher have i, but it's all i can think of
[06:57] <hmd64> is there a DeepFreeze like under Linux?
[06:57] <hexidigital> to completely remove X, could i just sudo aptitude remove xserver-xorg ?
[06:57] <uiiu> mwe: my default install didn't allow the floppy to be written to, i had to manually edit fstab, go figure...
[06:57] <humboldt> !lvm
[06:57] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:57] <agateau_> hello
[06:57] <humboldt> !lvm2
[06:57] <ubotu> lvm2: The Linux Logical Volume Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.02.06-2ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 292 kB, installed size 828 kB
[06:57] <cabldevil> uiiu: thanks
[06:58] <ctothej> uiiu: yes, i put the entries in manually in fstab, then ran sudo mount -a to remount the drives...
[06:58] <humboldt> !md
[06:58] <mwe> hexidigital: no that wont work I think
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about md - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <cabldevil> uiiu: I just may reinstall just to be safe
[06:58] <humboldt> !raid
[06:58] <mrnysegy1981> still having trouble with wireless. here is what I get with iwconfig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2304/
[06:58] <hexidigital> mwe::  :(  that's disappointing...
[06:58] <hexidigital> no biggie
[06:58] <agateau_> anyone know which version of gcc is used to build edgy kernel?
[06:58] <uiiu> cabledevil: couldn't urt to try
[06:58] <torpor> hi there..
[06:58] <uiiu> clothej: and it still won't mount the corret filesystem? have to tried 'auto'?
[06:59] <Byan> mrnysegy1981: wow, two interfaces..
[06:59] <Byan> thats weird
[06:59] <torpor> i've installed beryl/XGl, but metacity keeps starting up whenever i try to get beryl-manager & emerald --replace running instead ..
[06:59] <ctothej> uiiu: "/dev/sdd1	/media/250PT1	ntfs-3g	user,auto	0	0" is my fstab entry
[06:59] <torpor> is this a FAQ?  i'm sure it is ..
[06:59] <mrnysegy1981> i've got two plugged in
[06:59] <cabldevil> ill do that  ..what I should do now is to set my system clock to 7:20 am  and see what happends live
[06:59] <torpor> can anyone tell me where to go to get #beryl help?
[06:59] <slvmchn> is it possible to use digital cameras with the mini usb connector as a webcam
[06:59] <mrnysegy1981> a buffalo card and a linksys
[06:59] <digits> hey dudes and dudettes! is there some sort of netinstall for ubuntu that doesn't require a cd-rom at all? trying to "save" the old man from the disease of trojans et al, but he's cd-rom is broken - and i can't find anybody with one that i can borrow
[06:59] <Byan> mrnysegy1981: oh, lol, I thought it just
[06:59] <Byan> nvm
[07:00] <uiiu> cabledevil: good idea...
[07:00] <mwe> hexidigital: sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-core might work
[07:00] <cabldevil> uiiu:  ok i changed the clock to 7:28  let see if i get booted off of irc  =P
[07:00] <hexidigital> mwe::  worth a shot -- thanks :)
[07:01] <uiiu> clothej: this is just an idea, but try switching "auto" to ntfs...or did you already do that?
[07:01] <uiiu> cabledevil: good luck :)
[07:01] <mwe> cabldevil: doesn't syslog mention what's going on?
[07:01] <ctothej> uiiu: i didnt do that yet
[07:01] <cabldevil> mwe 1 sec ill paist
[07:01] <hexidigital> mwe::  or even x-window-system-core
[07:01] <uiiu> clothej: unmount, then give it a shot...i'll google to see if i can get more info...
[07:02] <mbutUbuntu> please read thil log
[07:02] <mikeConigliaro3> i must be an idiot or something.  why dont i have a /boot/grub?
[07:02] <mbutUbuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2306/
[07:02] <cabldevil> mwe: Jan 20 07:39:41 server -- MARK --
[07:02] <cabldevil> Jan 20 07:40:19 server exiting on signal 15
[07:02] <cabldevil> Jan 20 07:40:20 server syslogd 1.4.1#18ubuntu6: restart.
[07:02] <mwe> hexidigital: yeah. xserver-xorg-core seems to want to remove everything here. haven't tried your own suggestion
[07:03] <cabldevil> mwe: Jan 21 07:30:01 server /USR/SBIN/CRON[15990] : (root) CMD (test -x /etc/init.d/anacron && /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d anacron start >/dev/null)
[07:03] <cabldevil> Jan 21 07:30:01 server anacron[16014] : Anacron 2.3 started on 2007-01-21
[07:03] <cabldevil> Jan 21 07:30:01 server anacron[16014] : Will run job `cron.daily' in 5 min.
[07:03] <cabldevil> Jan 21 07:30:01 server anacron[16014] : Jobs will be executed sequentially
[07:03] <hexidigital> mwe::  yours worked
[07:03] <cabldevil> from syslog
[07:03] <mwe> cabldevil: don't paste here
[07:03] <digits> mwe: it should want to remove all, since all repends (more or less) on it :)
[07:03] <cabldevil> sorry
[07:03] <mwe> cabldevil: you'll get kicked
[07:03] <cabldevil> ty
[07:03] <ctothej> uiiu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2307/
[07:04] <mwe> digits: all of Xorg and related stuff that is
[07:04] <digits> mwe: ofcourse
[07:04] <nfp|kelnoky> none of my apps use any swap space...normal?
[07:04] <mrnysegy1981> does anyone know how I can find out what kernel and versions I'm running
[07:04] <quad3d> mrnysegy1981, uname -a
[07:05] <mwe> digits: that's great. he asked for a way to remove Xorg so I guess that will work
[07:05] <uiiu> clothej: i see it...hold on a sec...
[07:05] <mrnysegy1981> thanks
[07:05] <mwe> !paste | cabldevil
[07:05] <ubotu> cabldevil: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:06] <digits> mwe: yeah, more or less :)
[07:06] <mikeConigliaro2> can someone tell me hwo to edit my boot menu?  i dont have a /boot/grub for some reason
[07:06] <cabldevil> mwe =)  ty
[07:06] <Judicata> mikeConigliaro2: you mean it doesn't show up at all?
[07:06] <str4> yo
[07:06] <nwonknu-> hey
[07:06] <cokeslut> hey
[07:06] <mrnysegy1981> does anyone know if I have to enable the radio in my kernel configuration? using kernel  2.6.15-27-386
[07:06] <gopss> hi
[07:06] <mwe> digits: some stuff with broken dependencies will probably be left
[07:07] <uiiu> clothej: try another mount point, don't use the auto option, but "mount -t ntfs /dev/sdd1 NEWMOUNTPOINT" ie mount -t ntfs /dev/sdd1 /USBHDD" but first mkdir /USBHDD
[07:07] <mikeConigliaro2> Judicata: this is a clean install of ubuntu server.  i have no /boot/grub at all
[07:07] <digits> mwe: ofcourse, since it only remove core and dependand packages, you can use "dpkg -l | grep ii" to see all installed packages and remove those that you don't want
[07:08] <mikeConigliaro2> and i need to install a new kernel, because t he default doesnt work for my machine
[07:08] <mikeConigliaro2> and installing a new kernel is not updating the boot menu
[07:09] <uiiu> clothej: oh! make sure you have the right /dev file !
[07:09] <mwe> digits: yeah. I usually use dpkg --get-selections|grep -v deinstall. I find the output much nicer
[07:09] <gili> ok what is the best way to rip copy-protected dvd's
[07:09] <gili> ?
[07:09] <nwonknu-> ?
[07:09] <str4> tell me
[07:09] <cokeslut> private
[07:10] <gili> i used to have k9copy....but there seems to be protections that it wont bypass
[07:10] <digits> mwe: less typing my way, but you're right... i'm still a debianish noob
[07:10] <cabldevil> stupid question but how do i see my cron jobs in ubuntu =(
[07:10] <ctothej> uiiu: successful, but mounted for root access only though
[07:10] <patrick_> hello
[07:10] <ctothej> uiiu: not sure about write access yet
[07:10] <patrick_> is there some1 can help me
[07:10] <frogzoo> cabldevil: crontab -l
[07:11] <nfp|kelnoky> none of my apps use any swap space...normal?
[07:11] <cabldevil> ty
[07:11] <gili> ok what is the best way to rip copy-protected dvd's?
[07:11] <digits> anybody know if there's a netinstall (or similar) that doesn't require a cd-rom at all?
[07:11] <patrick_> how can i play mp3 in totem??
[07:11] <frogzoo> nfp|kelnoky: perfectly normal if you're running with available ram
[07:11] <patrick_> how can i play mp3 in totem??
[07:11] <patrick_> how can i play mp3 in totem??
[07:11] <ctothej> uiiu: its mounted as read only
[07:12] <mwe> digits: there is
[07:12] <uiiu> clothej: cool, then add the following/or make sure it's there....umask=002,dmask=002,fmask=002,gid=46,rw,sync,user,noauto,iocharset=utf8,codepage=850
[07:12] <Judicata> !mp3 | patrick_
[07:12] <ubotu> patrick_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:12] <cabldevil> frogzoo: says no cron job for me or root  this is od
[07:12] <mwe> digits: I did it over pxe running on a windows server
[07:12] <patrick_> Judica how??
[07:13] <Preetam> #cando-sprint
[07:13] <uiiu> clothej: rw sets it to readWRITE and the gid will include the plugindev group, which your regular user should already be a part of
[07:13] <mgallagh> #schooltool
[07:13] <mwe> digits: that's the boot. then installed everything from the internet
[07:13] <Judicata> patrick_: On the page ubotu posted - it will help you out. If you have further questions, pls ask.
[07:13] <frogzoo> cabldevil: why odd?
[07:13] <mgallagh> sorry
[07:13] <linux_den> need help installin ubuntu on presario. system hangs early during startup. have tried various distros only suse works help please
[07:13] <cabldevil> i guess ill do a reinstall  ...
[07:13] <bronze_0_1> patrick_: go and read the indicated web pages. they tell how
[07:13] <patrick_> ok thanks
[07:13] <cabldevil> frogzoo:   the server is rebooting around 7:30 every morning and i dont know why
[07:13] <nfp|kelnoky> frogzoo: so whats the swap doing then? :D
[07:14] <mzanfardino> where can I find reference material for configuring my microsoft keyboard?
[07:14] <mwe> digits: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[07:14] <ctothej> uiiu: how do I force an unmount?
[07:14] <uiiu> umount, opposite the mount command
[07:14] <ctothej> telling me device is busy
[07:14] <ctothej> force though
[07:14] <uiiu> ahh, sh!t, i was wondering that myself the other day :)
[07:14] <crit09> All: Anyway to find SMTP address of one's server?
[07:14] <frogzoo> cabldevil: look in /etc/cron.daily/
[07:14] <cabldevil> k
[07:15] <uiiu> clothej: google it is, if you find out before i do - let me know ;)
[07:15] <frogzoo> nfp|kelnoky: swap is for when physical ram is exhausted
[07:15] <mzanfardino> is there someplace I can find out how to configure my microsoft keyboard?
[07:15] <ctothej> uiiu: k
[07:15] <uiiu> clothej: gotit: umount -f
[07:15] <crit09> All: Anyway to find SMTP address of one's server?
[07:15] <ctothej> uiiu: nice
[07:15] <uiiu> clothej: BE CAREFUL. you don't want ot loose data
[07:16] <Zaggynl> Can someone highlight me please
[07:16] <mwe> don't umount a busy drive
[07:16] <cabldevil> frogzoo:  sudo gedit /etc/cron.daily
[07:16] <cabldevil>   and it said it could not be open  ??
[07:16] <nfp|kelnoky> Zaggynl
[07:16] <Zaggynl> thanks
[07:16] <linux_den> ubuntu install hangs early in process last error reads {DriveReady SeekComplete Errors} any hints appreciated
[07:16] <uiiu> mwe: how do you make it so it's not 'busy'...are there processes to kill or something?
[07:16] <ctothej> uiiu: i found out why too, my terminal window was pointing to the mounted directory
[07:16] <cabldevil> frogzoo:  for get it i know im dumb
[07:16] <uiiu> clothej: thanks, i'll have to remember that myself :)
[07:17] <mwe> uiiu: close open files on the drive
[07:17] <mwe> uiiu: for cd drives you can use the 'eject' command
[07:17] <gili> ok what is the best way to rip copy-protected dvd's?
[07:17] <uiiu> mwe: thanks, i was trying to use top the day but it was greek to me...
[07:17] <digits> mwe: thanks, have to check that
[07:17] <humboldt> do you guys know, why evms did not make it into ubuntu yet?
[07:18] <humboldt> do you guys know, why evms did not make it into ubuntu yet?
[07:18] <humboldt> I mean the installer (at least the alternate installer)
[07:18] <humboldt> Wouldn't EVMS be the a great alternative for the way LVM and RAID are currently managed?
[07:18] <humboldt> there are even GUIs available for EVMS (ncurses and X)
[07:18] <uiiu> clothej: if you want to try editing fstab again, you could use ntfs-g3 instead of ntfs, ntfs-g3 is a somewhat new journaled filesystem i think...and the newer version of nix should be updated for it...
[07:19] <B_166-ER-X> i need to know the 'hd*,*' of my harddisk + boot partition, where can i get that ? or how ?
[07:19] <ctothej> uiiu: i tried the last command with ntfs-3g and it worked.. now i just need to set the options for it correctly in fstab
[07:19] <nn531> !rar
[07:19] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:19] <xpander25008> hello
[07:19] <uiiu> cloethej: good thinking using ntfs-g3, with fstab you'll probably just have to change auto or ntfs the same way....
[07:19] <uiiu> (as you already probably realize ;)
[07:20] <mwe> uiiu: you probably want to use lsof to show open files
[07:20] <xtknight> idea: i'm bakc
[07:20] <ctothej> mwe: i didnt know about that command. its nice.
[07:20] <mwe> uiiu: you can grep for the mount point
[07:21] <wolfwalker> I'm new to Linux and want to get someone's opinion of what programs I should install. I'm a big music nut, so I'm looking for an audio converter, recorder, neat burn program........... all that good stuff. Which room should I go to?
[07:21] <mzanfardino> Does anyone know how to enable the full functionality of an old-school microsoft ergo keyboard (not the 4000)... I don't seem to have the right-alt and a few other keys working... I know it's in xorg.conf, but I don't know where to find a complete list of options...
[07:21] <ctothej> what are the <dump> and <pass> options in fstab?
[07:21] <uiiu> mwe: awesome, didn't know about lsof either (thanks). lots of output, greps a good idea, i wonder if there are any switches to use too? <'man-ing' losf>
[07:21] <nn531> !cue
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <nn531> !bin
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <mwe> uiiu: there are dozens ;)
[07:22] <xpander25008> hello. please anyone can suggest me a lightweight IDE for C development in ubuntu. i have to modify some program using sockets.
[07:22] <Dame> !alsa
[07:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[07:22] <Judicata> wolfwalker: Amarok or Exaile!, Easytag, Grip and a handful of apps installed by default are a good start.
[07:23] <frogzoo> xpander25008: emacs is pretty good for C
[07:23] <IntuitiveNipple> In Evolution, is it possible to configure multiple identities for one (IMAP4) mail account?
[07:24] <uiiu> clothej: dump has to do with backing files up, don't know about pass though. check out this link http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html ...good stuff.
[07:24] <zizb> hello?
[07:25] <arrenlex> !hi | zizb
[07:25] <ubotu> zizb: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:25] <B_166-ER-X> how can i know what are the Linux names of my drives ? (hda, hdd, hda1...hdb..ect) ?
[07:25] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: Sound Juicer, amarok, k3b
[07:25] <mwe> uiiu: lsof /dev/hda1 or similar might be useful as well
[07:25] <beterraba> hello, i've installed azereus, and i need to find its log. but i cant found the paste. could some one told me where azereus is installed plz?
[07:25] <arrenlex> B_166-ER-X: sudo fdisk -l
[07:25] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[07:25] <beterraba> hello, i've installed azereus, and i need to find its log. but i cant found the paste. could some one told me where azereus is installed plz?
[07:26] <B_166-ER-X> on wich drive is Grub installed ?
[07:26] <B_166-ER-X> 'boot drive' ?
[07:26] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: "mount" will show you the associations between /dev/hdX and your file-system
[07:26] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: check the grub config file in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:26] <wolfwalker> !grip
[07:26] <ubotu> grip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number
[07:26] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[07:27] <HymnToLife> hmm
[07:27] <HymnToLife> methinks, X should be the CDROM drive, rather
[07:28] <wolfwalker> Don't ask me, I didn't write it:P
[07:28] <wolfwalker> Ubuntu comes with a cool burn program anyway, doesn't it?
[07:28] <wolfwalker> Any trackers perchance?
[07:28] <HymnToLife> it would'nt make any sense to symlink a hard drive to /dev/cdrom
[07:28] <MasterShrek> gnomebaker maybe
[07:28] <uiiu> mwe: gave lsof /dev/hd1 a shot, and i got an error message...about 'can't stat file system (ext 3)'...what's that about?
[07:28] <ctothej> uiiu: i edited my fstab and the drives point to different folders, but they still mount to the previous folders with the default ntfs fs.
[07:28] <wolfwalker> Is there maybe a good audio tracking program for Linux?
[07:29] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, define "audio tracking" please
[07:29] <MasterShrek> what do u mean by audio tracking?
[07:29] <arrenlex> Oooh. gaim-text is COOL.
[07:29] <B_166-ER-X> ok, i have all my Hd** listed, but i dont get how to find what is my 'boot partition'
[07:29] <wolfwalker> Load a note from a piano, the program interpolates it to different keys, you slot the notes into a "track" to make a tune
[07:29] <wolfwalker> Overlay different tracks for chords or other instruments
[07:30] <uiiu> clothej: did you unmount then remount?
[07:30] <wolfwalker> Like modplug, but better
[07:30] <junk1> ubuntu  6.0.6 wireless card isnt keeping the profile thing so it works with out setting it every time help pls
[07:30] <ctothej> uiiu: i unmounted, then I remounted using "mount -a"
[07:30] <HymnToLife> B_166-ER-X, what do you want to do with it ?
[07:30] <ctothej> uiiu: because the drives automatically mount when i plug the usb in
[07:31] <B_166-ER-X> HymnToLife ,preparing to reinstall windows on a dual boot system, i knowthat grub will be screwed, and i'm takin notes  on how to repair it afterwards
[07:31] <BIHCar> hello folks
[07:31] <B_166-ER-X> i have this from a walktrought' 4. Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub).'
[07:32] <B_166-ER-X> hence my questions
[07:32] <uiiu> ctothej: gotchya...and you're using.../dev/sdd1       /USBHDD  ntfs-g3    umask=002,dmask=002,fmask=002,gid=46,rw,sync,user,noauto,iocharset=utf8,codepage=850
[07:32] <uiiu> ctothej: wait, not supposed to be "noauto" but "auto"
[07:32] <uiiu> ctothej: and i use sync jto make sure files transfer in real-time
[07:32] <ctothej> uiiu: fstab entries look like: "/dev/sdd1	/media/ntfs3g1	ntfs-3g	defaults	0	0"