[03:07] <Cypher67> is ext4 fs better than ext3?
[03:07] <rand0mbits> hey, what's good VoIP soft for latest 64 bit ubuntu? skype doesn't seem to support 64 bit linux...
[03:07] <gymophett> What is ext4 fs?
[03:07] <eseven73> !best | Cypher67
[03:07] <m3onh0x> yes
[03:07] <NetEcho> DrBanzai I thought your issue might be caused by the same thing as mine but nope
[03:07] <Jeruvy> !release | gymophett
[03:07] <usser> rand0mbits, you can get it to run
[03:07] <DrBanzai> komputes: It's set to Normal
[03:07] <gymophett> oh. yes. ext4 is faster.
[03:07] <ienorand> burntresistor: if you use unetbootin you can make a liveusb on fat32, meaning that you cn add more files in GNU/Linux or Win.
[03:07] <usser> rand0mbits, just need to install ia32-libs
[03:07] <PlasmaSheep> Flash flickers for me (intel card). Please help.
[03:07] <ddsweet47> I am having a problem with my display the highest resolution is 800x 600 and i am getting random boxes on the screen.  Can anyone help?
[03:08] <rand0mbits> usser: does it run ok?
[03:08] <NetEcho> !build-essentials
[03:08] <gymophett> I've been using Ubuntu since I was 12.
[03:08] <gymophett> Now I'm 14.
[03:08] <TheMungo> Ive been using your mum since i was 12
[03:08] <usser> rand0mbits, yea it runs fine
[03:08] <TheMungo> Now im 14
[03:08] <panfist> i really need some help, i've tried over and over to get pub key authentication to work with ssh and i just seem to be going in circles
[03:08] <gymophett> TheMungo: Lmao. :P
[03:08] <Jeruvy> !ot | gymophett second warning
[03:09] <Cypher67> the problem is i coul not mount ext4 from a ext3 partition (Mint)
[03:09] <Ax3> help, im trying to setup mysql and it won't start the service
[03:09] <DrBanzai> I've also tried gksu displayconfig-gtk and it asks for the password, then...nothing
[03:09] <eseven73>  /ignore TheMungo ALL
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> panfist:  not sure what you are doing.. but i nomally use the 'ssh-copy-id' command to copy my keys to the other machines..  (i just know a little about ssh)
[03:09] <eseven73> ooops
[03:09] <Michael10trickla> i installed Windows 7 RC on an old partition i wasn't using... how would i reinstall GRUB so that is had my old boot list with windows 7 added to the list?
[03:09] <Jeruvy> eseven73: too late :)
[03:10] <xangua> Michael10trickla:  supergrub disk
[03:10] <Jeruvy> !grub | Michael10trickla
[03:10] <rand0mbits> usser: do i need anything besides ia32-libs? i already had them installed, but the skype package complained re 64bit
[03:11] <Cypher67> Michael10trckla- you can also use grub install
[03:11] <Jeruvy> rand0mbits: did you get skype working in x64?
[03:11] <ricardo1> hi which way is the best to make an ubuntu image for backup?
[03:11] <usser> rand0mbits, install it with sudo dpkg -i force all skype.deb
[03:11] <usser> rand0mbits, or sudo dpkg -i force-all skype.deb i dont remember which
[03:11] <ienorand> rand0mbits: you could always use the prepared 64bit package
[03:11] <Michael10trickla> thnx all
[03:11] <ienorand> !skype
[03:11] <usser> ricardo1, partimage is pretty good
[03:11] <rand0mbits> ienorand: where would i get that?
[03:12] <ricardo1> usser: thank you
[03:12] <Jeruvy> I'll have to seek a x64 version...
[03:12] <Cypher67> ricardo1- clonezilla
[03:12] <ienorand> rand0mbits: there is a link somewhere ther for 64bit version..
[03:12] <Jeruvy> thanks ienorand
[03:12] <rand0mbits> ienorand: on the skype website?
[03:12] <ienorand> rand0mbits: links bu ubottu
[03:12] <PlasmaSheep> Flash flickers for me (intel card). Please help.
[03:13] <Jeruvy> PlasmaSheep: its a known issue, check bugs.
[03:13] <DrBanzai> Greetings!  Just completed my upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04, and I'm having trouble.  Everything is sluggish, windows are greying (as in, they are "thinking") and I still can't set my monitor to it's native resolution...
[03:13] <eseven73> PlasmaSheep, also it's in the release notes (last link in the topic)
[03:13] <spanther> found a problem which hasn't let me view television with dvb-t. I installed "me-tv" but the required dependency "dvb-utils" and "dvb-apps" weren't autoinstalled with it. some dev has to bind "dvb-apps,dvb-utils" as requirement for me-tv in package management/installer
[03:14] <derek_> hey all
[03:14] <usser> rand0mbits, http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu-amd64
[03:14] <PlasmaSheep> Jeruvy: Bugs where? Giving me vague directions to see this and check that won't solve my problem.
[03:14] <usr_masse> if i oerform the automatic updates will it update me from ver 8.04 to ver 9 on its own?
[03:14] <derek_> i have 64bit ubuntu and gnome system monitor says i only have 2.9 gbs of ram when i have 4gb. Does anyone know why? and how i can fix it?
[03:14] <Jeruvy> !bug
[03:14] <PlasmaSheep> eseven73: thanks, I'll check that
[03:14] <rand0mbits> usser, ienorand : thanks!
[03:14] <eseven73> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904
[03:15] <PlasmaSheep> eseven73: unless I'm missing something, the word 'flash' is not in that document.
[03:15] <Jeruvy> PlasmaSheep: sorry figured you looked at the docs.  My bad.
[03:15] <Jeruvy> PlasmaSheep: Intel is...
[03:15] <eseven73> PlasmaSheep, intel is though, related.
[03:15] <usr_masse> if i oerform the automatic updates will it update me from ver 8.04 to ver 9 on its own?
[03:15] <eseven73> Jeruvy, stop that, get out of my head :D
[03:16] <Jeruvy> eseven73: I ain't Kylie Minogue :)
[03:16] <derek_> anyone?
[03:16] <eseven73> :D
[03:16] <unko> hey guys, i noticed when i upgraded from ibex to jaunty i noticed a extreme performance decrese with my g-card (ati mobility radeon x1400) i used rovclock to see some info and try to overclock it but it says that my core is at 0.10mgz and mem is @ 0.0mghz any ideas? open source drivers suck...
[03:16] <racecar56> dereine[OFF], you have too much ram, ubuntu cant handle that much
[03:16] <JOKER1> :D
[03:16] <Ventti> WooHoo - just completed my first dual boot install with 9.04 / XP - am running MiRC under WINE too. Never touched WINE before :)
[03:16] <panfist> i am trying to get pubkey authentication working. in my sshd_config i have PubkeyAuthentication yes, but when i try to log in, i get "no supported authentication methods available"
[03:16] <racecar56> dereine[OFF], OOPS
[03:16] <rand0mbits> Ventti: how do you like mirc under wine?
[03:16] <racecar56> derek_, you have too much ram, ubuntu cant handle that much
[03:17] <derek_> even the 64 bit version?
[03:17] <Ventti> Random - at this time it seems to be working perfectly
[03:17] <racecar56> derek_, if you have a 64bit CPU then MAYBE it will workj
[03:17] <Ventti> Random - at this time it seems to be working perfectly
[03:17] <PartialSum> unko, are you using fglrx?
[03:17] <Cypher67> derek_-i have this same problem with windows but unbuntu 64 bits shuould read the memory right
[03:17] <racecar56> derek_, :( i wish i even had 3 GB...
[03:17] <derek_> well my computer can use 4gbs, but not the OS?
[03:17] <admin_masu3701> am configuring eclipse...should i increase header size of /usr/lib/eclipse.ini ?
[03:17] <unko> PartialSum, i tried using it i think and X would crash on login
[03:17] <Jeruvy> derek_: you need x64 to do more than 3.37GB
[03:18] <admin_masu3701> this is what i have -vmargs
[03:18] <admin_masu3701> -Xms40m
[03:18] <admin_masu3701> -Xmx256m
[03:18] <panfist> derek don't listen to whoever says 4gb is more than the os can handle
[03:18] <derek_> also my computer lags during screensaver after i reinstalled 9.04?
[03:18] <PartialSum> unko, yep, you're pretty much stuck with OSS drivers, not much you can do
[03:18] <gm|lap> Jeruvy: with PAE you can access up to 64GB
[03:18] <gm|lap> in 32-bit mode
[03:18] <james296> has anyone here used the cooliris add on in firefox yet?
[03:18] <eseven73> I never needed more than 1 gig ram till today when I loaded 1000 brushes in GIMP , took 27% of my /swap too hehe.
[03:18] <derek_> how do I get PAE
[03:18] <Cypher67> racecar56- i dont agree my system is 4gb and ubuntu reads 3.9g
[03:18] <unko> PartialSum, why do the fglrx driver work better?
[03:18] <Jeruvy> gm|lap: I'm aware, but many do not use PAE :)
[03:18] <james296> I seem to be having issues with the way fonts are being shown
[03:18] <yuri_> i would liek to burn a video_ts folder to an iso from command line. suggestions?
[03:18] <PlasmaSheep> Jeruvy, eseven73: flashplugin-nonfree is the 'evil' one, right?
[03:18] <gm|lap> good point.
[03:18] <derek_> How do I use PAE?
[03:18] <yuri_> i mean convert, not burn
[03:19] <Jeruvy> PlasmaSheep: I would get flash from the source adobe.
[03:19] <usr_masse> Is there a command for the terminal to search for installed packages
[03:19] <zanberdo> been using intrepid now since it was released. am trying to read an audio cd which I was able to read only last week, but now it seems the system won't recognize the drive. dmesg reports:ppdev0: registered pardevice followed by ppdev0: unregistered pardevice. no help searching google. Anyone seen this?!?
[03:19] <PartialSum> unko, well yea. theoretically
[03:19] <PlasmaSheep> Jeruvy: there's an adobe-flashplugin, I'll try that.
[03:19] <ddsweet47> I am having a problem with my display can anyone help me?
[03:19] <gm|lap> derek_: i think it involves sysctl
[03:19] <derek_> Does anyone know how I can use PAE?
[03:19] <PartialSum> yuri_, mkisofs
[03:19] <Jeruvy> PlasmaSheep: if your using x64 don't use the normal version get the x64 version
[03:19] <derek_> ok gmlap
[03:20] <unko> PartialSum, hmm ill try to install them again and see what happens.. what am i looking for like whats the package called?
[03:20] <yuri_> PartialSum: thanks!
[03:20] <ienorand> unko: ati dedicates effort to it, and don't care about the oss driver basically.
[03:20] <PlasmaSheep> Jeruvy: using 32 bit, but thanks anyway.
[03:20] <PartialSum> unko, it wont work, ati dropped support for your card http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.2&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.9&lang=English
[03:20] <unko> ienorand, yea, i mean ati is a good chip just they are lazy
[03:20] <panfist> i'm not even getting that my key was rejected anymore...it just says no supported authentication
[03:20] <gm|lap> derek_: actually... i think hugepages is just PSE... i think you need to compile your kernel correctly
[03:21] <unko> PartialSum, that sucks... wow... i used to be able to play nexuiz @ 45 fps + now i play at 10
[03:21] <ienorand> unko: well, nvidia is just as bad really, but they at least don't drop support like that, I think
[03:21] <gm|lap> ienorand: they drop support but at least they keep a driver which supports it
[03:21] <unko> ienorand, yeah... i heard nvidia was kinda hard to get working right on ubuntu...
[03:22] <gm|lap> it's pretty easy from my experience
[03:22] <derek_> how do I compile my kernel correctly?
[03:22] <derek_> I am kind of new
[03:22] <DrBanzai> Greetings!  Just completed my upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04, and I'm having trouble.  Everything is sluggish, windows are greying (as in, they are "thinking") and I still can't set my monitor to it's native resolution...64bit Ubuntu, Nvidia GeForce 7300 GS 512MB and a new HP 2009m LCD monitor
[03:23] <ienorand> unko: actually, nvidia seems easier in most cases, however, afaik, they give absolutely nothing to the oss side of the drivers...
[03:23] <Cypher67> im using one partition with ubuntu on ext4 fs and three other distros with ext3 fs. is there any way to mount ubuntu in the ext3 distros?
[03:23] <ricardo1> i am going to install ubuntu 9 04 how good is ext 4?
[03:24] <PartialSum> unko, you can try getting radeonhd driver going but its a long shot, its supposed to have 3d
[03:24] <Cypher67> DrBanzai- reinstall
[03:24] <PartialSum> ricardo1, its alright
[03:24] <unko> ienorand, hmm so im better off getting a ati card? cuz im planning on getting a hd 3650
[03:24] <DrBanzai> Cypher67: Awwww, man....
[03:24] <ricardo1> PartialSum better than ext3?
[03:24] <ienorand> ricardo1: fast and possibly unstable
[03:24] <unko> PartialSum, and how could i do this? just install a package? or do i have to compile, configure, troubleshoot...
[03:25] <panfist> ok i'm back to getting "server refused key" trying to get pubkey authetnication to work. can i check any logs on the server to learn why i'm being refused?
[03:25] <ricardo1> ienorand thankz for the advice
[03:25] <PartialSum> PartialSum, its faster thats for sure, but i wouldnt put it on my server
[03:25] <Iradieh> If I got two partitions one / and one /home and I write tar cvpzf /home/seivan/sGate/backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/home/seivan/sGate/backup.tgz --exclude=/sys / will that do a backup on both or just /
[03:25] <PartialSum> unko, install a package configure troubleshoot
[03:25] <DrBanzai> And now my Tracker applet is throwing errors too...not even sure what the tracker applet does...
[03:25] <unko> PartialSum, ehh... is it worth the time though?
[03:25] <PartialSum> unko, radeonhd is in the repos but there's still some manual configuration involved
[03:25] <ddsweet47> I new to this how do i get help?
[03:25] <boringpackets> I somehow removed the wireless icon in my taskbar, how do I get it back?
[03:25] <PartialSum> unko, i tried it, frankly it sucked for me.
[03:25] <voodoo_child> lol
[03:26] <boringpackets> ddsweet47 just ask a question
[03:26] <boringpackets> !ask
[03:26] <unko> PartialSum, really? dam... looks like i'll neer get any performance outta my x1400.. GRR
[03:26] <Iradieh> boringpackets: if I got two partitions one / and other /home and I do a tar / (excluding stuff like /proc and etc) will it restore/backup /home as well?
[03:27] <Cypher67> im using one partition with ubuntu on ext4 fs and three other distros with ext3 fs. is there any way to mount ubuntu in the ext3 distros?
[03:27] <ienorand> unko: Atm, if you are not that concerned with using proprietary stuff, I'd say go for an nvidia card... ati opensource drivers will probably be far better than the nv counterpart (and then you might as well go for intel, and get bettter performance once it gets patched in jaunty and +), but as far as the proprietary side goes, from what I've seen, nvidia isIt
[03:27] <ddsweet47> thank you im having a problem with my display.  the highest resolution is 800 x 600 and im getting random boxes on the screen
[03:27] <boringpackets> iradieh take my answers as a grain of salt but, since /home is a subdirectory of / it should restore /home too
[03:27] <PartialSum> unko, never say never its improving rapidly not without ati support, they provided all specs and documentation, unlike nvidia
[03:28] <Iradieh> boringpackets: yeah well thats what I thought but I got my doubs, do you happen to know how to READ a .tar file so I can see if my /home is in there?
[03:28] <thiebaude> boringpackets: right click taskbar add network monitor
[03:28] <boringpackets> iradieh when I double click on tar files it automatically opens in archive manager
[03:28] <Iradieh> boringpackets: no GUI
[03:28] <Iradieh> it's a server
[03:28] <unko> ienorand, hmm.. but ati is sooo much cheaper... and plus the laptop im getting only comes with the ati card there is no nvidia card version... unless i can buy a nvidia card for it and pop it in
[03:29] <boringpackets> thiebaude all i have in add to panel is "modem monitor"
[03:29] <wall-e_> quick question
[03:30] <ienorand> unko: not likely to be able to swap card...
[03:30] <wall-e_> if im tri booting os do i need to install grub with all the new os?
[03:30] <ienorand> unko: You could always trudge along on Ibex
[03:30] <boringpackets> iradieh have you tried zcat?
[03:30] <unko> PartialSum, i hope so.. i really love ubuntu... WAY more than windows... but it just has alot of bugs that need to be fix.. and things that need to be improved... but who cares i guess... we're catching up to microsoft in half the time... i mean think about it they have been developing there OS for jeez... who knows... 15 years and we did it in half the time
[03:31] <PartialSum> unko, well linux was around since 1992 :)
[03:31] <boringpackets> zcat -l /foo/foo.tar
[03:31] <ienorand> unko: Depends on whether you count Unix as well :P
[03:31] <wall-e_> im trying adifferent linux os andnot sure if i need to do so with grub
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> wall-e_:  you will want to pick one of the os's to handle grub most likely and  edit the menu.lst by hand to allow the booting of them all
[03:31] <Severian> unko, I'd say Ubuntu is far ahead of Windows.   They both have rough spots, but I find the Linux ones easier to live with.
[03:31] <unko> PartialSum,  true
[03:31] <Cypher67> 1993 i guess
[03:32] <NetEcho> !FTP Server
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> wall-e_:  i would backup your original menu.lst befor installing any other os's
[03:32] <dft> heh, can someone help me with some IDE dvdrw/cdrw drive issues http://pastebin.com/mcff9f40
[03:32] <NetEcho> !FTP
[03:32] <gm|lap> !irc server
[03:32] <gm|lap> !IRC Server
[03:32] <gm|lap> what?!
[03:32] <PartialSum> !ircd
[03:32] <gm|lap> !irc
[03:32] <unko> Severian, yea... i mean linux has way more eye candy... and runs like 2x faster.. and now with ext4 about 3x faster
[03:32] <Pici> !fishing
[03:32] <ddsweet47> I am having a problem with my display the highest resolution is 800 x 600 all the other setting disappeared and i am getting random boxes on the screen
[03:32] <dft> !irssi
[03:32] <wall-e_> well i got ubuntu on second hd and windows and kubuntu on hd1
[03:32] <NetEcho> is there any online documents about setting up and managing a FTP server?
[03:32] <eseven73> geeze guys /msg ubottu <command>
[03:33] <h00k> NetEcho: google
[03:33] <dft> heh, can someone help me with some IDE dvdrw/cdrw drive issues http://pastebin.com/mcff9f40
[03:33] <wall-e_> and i started with msWindow then ubuntu and then kubuntu third
[03:33] <NetEcho> hook ubuntu related documents
[03:33] <gm|lap> NetEcho: firstly choose one...
[03:33] <adrigen> NetEcho: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ubuntu+set+up+ftp+server&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[03:33] <wall-e_> and installed grub on all of the installs
[03:33] <NetEcho> proftpd would work
[03:34] <PartialSum> NetEcho, http://www.wikihow.com/Setup-vsftpd-FTP-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[03:34] <h00k> NetEcho: google 'ubuntu manage ftp server' first link: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/settingup-an-ftp-server-on-ubuntu-with-proftpd.html
[03:34] <unko> ienorand, im getting this laptop... can i upgrade the card with like nvidia? or do i have to have a ati card? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834117887
[03:34] <NetEcho> adrigen thanks , PartialSum thanks as well
[03:34] <Severian> ddsweet47, What kind of monitor and video card do you have?
[03:34] <NetEcho> h00k thanks
[03:34] <adrigen> ubuntu plays system sounds at random. does anyone know why it might be doing this?
[03:34] <adrigen> seems to be eating resources too
[03:35] <ddsweet47> it was in the machine i dont know.  it happen when i ran a flight simulator.
[03:35] <ienorand> unko: you won't be able to get nvidia on that one.
[03:36] <Severian> ddsweet47, If it happened while running a program, then reboot.
[03:36] <unko> ienorand, hmm.. thats too bad
[03:36] <PartialSum> unko, oh come on dont buy sony.
[03:36] <_Brun0_> Ubunut upgrade from 8.10 to 9 froze! Now I can't login naymore. I type user and pass and it just do nothing more. It doesn't freeze PC but nothing happens! How can I fix this? Try upgrading again?
[03:36] <unko> PartialSum, why not? that laptop is AWSOME
[03:36] <ienorand> unko: Check how new the ati card is, and possibly contact ati and see if they can give you any pointers on how long it might be supported for...
[03:36] <PartialSum> unko, its overpriced
[03:36] <unko> PartialSum, im not looking for pure performace.. im looking for thin, and style
[03:37] <Dayofswords> anyone know how to add more desks on gnome?
[03:37] <unko> PartialSum, not really.. well im getting another version that is only 800
[03:37] <dft> is there a way to reload modprobe.d/options without rebooting?
[03:37] <unko> PartialSum, wait that is the 800 one
[03:38] <PartialSum> unko, still too much :)
[03:38] <ddsweet47> when i ran the program i got over lapping on the screen and i had to reboot
[03:38] <Severian> Dayofswords, right click in that area and choose preferences.
[03:38] <IndyGunFreak> Dayofswords: what do you mean more desks
[03:38] <unko> PartialSum, ok you find me a stylish, but packs performance. laptop on newegg.. lets see if you can do it! :P
[03:38] <adrianobento1962> hi
[03:39] <Dayofswords> at the bottom right there are two desktops, i think theres a way to make more, idk how
[03:39] <Severian> Dayofswords, I just told you how.
[03:39] <Cypher67> _Brun0 - if i was you i would reinstall
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> Dayofswords: yeah, right click those two windows, pref, and adjust accordingly.. someonme told you that
[03:40] <adrianobento1962> hi gordon
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> _Brun0_: this is one reason upgrades suck.
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> hope you had a backup
[03:40] <derek_> is i486 64 bit or 32 bit?
[03:40] <derek_> I am downloading ubuntu 64bit
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> 586?.. 32bit.
[03:40] <[1]panfist> no matter what i try to do, when SSHing into my ubuntu machine with PubkeyAuthentication, it tells me that my key was refused, but it never even asks me for my key's passphrase...what gives?
[03:40] <|dthacker|> derek_: 32bit
[03:40] <unko> PartialSum, 0.o you there haha
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> derek_: i386 is 32bit... 64bit.. is 64bit
[03:41] <derek_> ok
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> some distros will call it i586
[03:41] <derek_> at least i found my problem
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> i586 = 32bit.
[03:41] <nimrod> hi
[03:41] <derek_> can i upgrade to 64 bit or do I have to do a clean install?
[03:41] <PartialSum> unko, hehe, looking for a laptop
[03:41] <lmoozzy81> hey
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> derek_: if you currently have 32bit, you'll have to clean install
[03:41] <unko> PartialSum, ok :] is it on newegg i only buy from them
[03:41] <Cypher67> clean install
[03:41] <derek_> it's just inconvenient, I don't have any real documents that aren't backed up
[03:42] <derek_> I am excited to use all of my RAM!
[03:42] <derek_> and sick of the lag
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> derek_: eh, clean installs are faster than upgrades anyways, at least in my experieence
[03:42] <derek_> My computer lags through screensavers
[03:42] <derek_> annoying
[03:42] <Cypher67> derek_- what kinda lag are you having?
[03:42] <anom01y> wow
[03:42] <derek_> it's just not as fast as it used to be
[03:42] <ienorand> Dayofswords: are you using compiz
[03:42] <derek_> during the screensavers
[03:43] <anom01y> is there any NVIDIA cards that work for ubuntu/Linux except 6 year old 128 mb cards ???
[03:43] <derek_> it's not really lag, but more like sluggish
[03:43] <lmoozzy81> how do you find another room
[03:43] <Dayofswords> idk what that is, so i dont think so
[03:43] <Cypher67> its impossible to lag of more than  2gb
[03:43] <Severian> anom01y, Yes, I have some older 32 meg cards that work well.  So, you don't need to get all fancy.
[03:43] <nimrod> what is wrong with rhrythmbox? it plays my songs with weird kind of noise
[03:43] <derek_> here's my computer, it should be able to run a screensaver http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9172511&type=product&id=1218043606827
[03:44] <anom01y> so far the kde hardware detection program (kde-jockey) is unsuccessful in setting up a nvidia 6200 geforce, and a nvidia 8800 gt
[03:44] <xxploit> anom01y, i use an 8800 gts
[03:44] <mattgyver> Should the samba daemon begin at login by default?
[03:44] <anom01y> xxploit how did you get that one to work ?
[03:44] <DrBanzai> anom01y: I'm using a GeForce 7300 GS
[03:44] <Severian> mattgyver, No
[03:44] <derek_> i have 9800m gts
[03:44] <mattgyver> Severian, how may i force it to start on login?
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> anom01y:  jockey-gtk set up my 8800gtsxxx fine.
[03:44] <nimrod> i use 8800gtx, and it works just fine
[03:44] <Cypher67> anom0ly- i have the same cards ofcyou and the jockey did well
[03:45] <xxploit> anom01y, i use jockey-gtk(gnome version) when installing it does report a crash but corrects itself and all is well.
[03:45] <anom01y> weird, every time I use it it puts my resultion to a 640x480 max
[03:45] <derek_> that's the best res
[03:45] <anom01y> that also goes for this computer, using a 6200 geforce
[03:45] <lmoozzy81> join/music
[03:45] <Cypher67> anom0ly- i have the same cards ofcyou and the jockey did well
[03:45] <Severian> mattgyver, it starts when your machine boots up, if you install it.  The packacge is called samba and is not installed by default.
[03:45] <nimrod> where can i change to alsa or oss on rhythmbox?
[03:46] <ienorand> anom01y: might want to install manually using the nvidia-glx-*** packages
[03:46] <anom01y> well two completely different computers with two diff. nvidia cards that I have are doing the exact same thing
[03:46] <boringpackets> Anyone know how I can get back that wireless icon in the corner? I accidentally removed it
[03:46] <lmoozzy81> my cousin told me how to change chat rooms but i forget
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> boringpackets:  i think you run the nm-applet
[03:46] <Cypher67> anom0ly- are you choosing the right driver? try to chasnge the driver or instal the glx new drivers kernel from synaptic
[03:46] <Severian> anom01y, It sometimes depends on your monitor.  It X does not detect that your monitor is capable of higher resolutions, it plays it safe.
[03:46] <ddsweet47> when i ran the program i got over lapping on the screen and i had to reboot
[03:46] <anom01y> ienorand,  I tried installing the drivers from nvidia.com, but that just made the screen go blank after I followed the instructions forcing me to reinstall kubuntu
[03:46] <boringpackets> nm-applet wont start because it's already running
[03:47] <boringpackets> networkamangerusersettings service is already taken
[03:47] <mattgyver> Severian, I have the pkg installed. My laptop is not detected on the network until i restart the samba daemon, it gives this error: 'start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 2261: no such process.' Then the service begins correctly
[03:47] <derek_> right click up there and select add panel
[03:47] <derek_> then just add it
[03:47] <derek_> @boring packets
[03:47] <Cypher67> anom0ly- try synaptic or apt-get
[03:47] <anom01y> well, for this computer, it was working well with a 5700, I simply changed the card to a 6200, and everything worked for about 2 days, until 5 mins ago
[03:47] <gymophett> age
[03:47] <gymophett> lala.
[03:47] <boringpackets> derek_ it doesn't exist in add to panel, all i have is modem manager
[03:47] <anom01y> the screen flickered several times and X crashed leaving me at the command
[03:48] <gymophett> Sorry. I'm trying to get the offtopic to show up.
[03:48] <lmoozzy81> guess no one cares
[03:48] <Asad2005> Liferea error "** ERROR **: Failure while preparing statement, (error=11, database disk image is malformed) SQL:" any help ?
[03:48] <Cypher67> anom0ly- do you have the right \\x
[03:48] <anom01y> any suggestions on how I can repair this ? I already clicked the check box in kde-jockey
[03:48] <Cypher67> anom0ly- do you have the right Xorg version
[03:48] <gymophett> how old is everyone here?
[03:48] <derek_> boringpackets did you search for it
[03:48] <xxploit> anom01y, you can always install the drivers from nvidia's site if you wish(make sure kernel-headers are install/build-essential)
[03:49] <boringpackets> yes derek, i tried by typing "network, wifi, wire, net, internet" and a few more
[03:49] <boringpackets> its definitely not there
[03:49] <ienorand> gymophett: shush
[03:49] <anom01y> xxploit tried that, and it ruins the computer
[03:49] <boringpackets> ruins the computer lol
[03:49] <derek_> did you try connections?
[03:49] <Cypher67> xxploit- i would use synaptic because of the dependenciess
[03:49] <xxploit> lol
[03:49] <poutine> why on earth would: invoke-rc.d: initscript pulseaudio, action "stop" failed. cause apt-get -f remove pulseaudio to fail? Why would init scripts tell the package manager whether or not something was removed successfully or not?
[03:49] <anom01y> screen remains blank
[03:49] <Severian> mattgyver, I'm sorry.  I can't give you a quick answer.  I have to go away for a while.
[03:49] <larry__> www.google.com
[03:50] <ienorand> boringpackets: the icon is normally in the "notification area"
[03:50] <poutine> I should say, why would it rely on init scripts before removing a package
[03:50] <poutine> and how do I get around it
[03:50] <boringpackets> lenorand thanks man!! it's there
[03:50] <Qwell> Any ideas why the Stereo Mixer input source is *far* louder than the Mic input source?  Mic is very very quiet.  Stereo Mixer is the "right" volume, but obviously I don't want to record everything that would come out of my speakers
[03:50] <nimrod> somebody who can give a hint about what make my sound weird in rhythmbox?
[03:50] <larry__> www.google.com
[03:50] <anom01y> btw: I am running xfce, so is it still ok to use the kde-jockey program ?
[03:51] <xxploit> anom01y, use jockey-gtk instead since xfce uses gtk
[03:51] <cWo_sAoSiN_fZ> co 18
[03:51] <cWo_sAoSiN_fZ> hi....
[03:52] <nimrod> the music works fine in vlc-player, but not in rhythmbox...... how can that be?
[03:52] <xxploit> codecs?
[03:52] <poutine> this demonstrates the stupid behavior I'm saying: http://www.pastebin.ca/1414944
[03:53] <DrBanzai> Any idea why my displayconfig-gtk isn't working?
[03:53] <lmoozzy81> how do u find another chat room please
[03:53] <boringpackets> is it normal for vlc to require libqt4? that kinda upsets me, i don't want my system tarnished by QT libraries
[03:53] <xangua> boringpackets: do you have jaunty ¿¿
[03:53] <boringpackets> xangua yes
[03:54] <Ventti> moozy  type /list
[03:54] <xxploit> lmoozzy81, "/join <roomname>" different server is "/connect <server>"
[03:54] <xangua> boringpackets: you can go to qt config
[03:54] <xangua> and change to the GTK style boringpackets
[03:54] <abama> under what conditions does it need to manually make device node in /dev ?
[03:54] <anom01y> ok I ran jockey-gtk, enabled nvidia, but nothing happened, do I have to reboot ???
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> anom01y:  yes
[03:54] <DrBanzai> anom01y: Yes
[03:54] <xxploit> anom01y, yes or restart the x server
[03:54] <boringpackets> xangua thanks but, it's not a matter of prettyness, i just dont want qt anything on here
[03:54] <lmoozzy81> thank u
[03:55] <spanther> anom01y, if you install nvidia you need reboot to load nvidia kernel module
[03:55] <boringpackets> ill find a VLC alternative
[03:55] <anom01y> ok
[03:55] <xangua> boringpackets: then don¿t use VLC ...............
[03:55] <anom01y> spanther, reboot, or reload the x server ?
[03:55] <boringpackets> xanguage ^
[03:55] <lmoozzy81> "/music
[03:55] <spanther> anom01y, dunno. i prefer clean reboot
[03:55] <anom01y> ok I Will try
[03:55] <c0l2e> how can I change the default paper size for openoffice??
[03:55] <anom01y> better work
[03:55] <PartialSum> boringpackets, mplayer
[03:55] <xangua> boringpackets: i use mplayer and totem, mplayer for Firefox and Totem for the local videos
[03:55] <c0l2e> tried to change the /etc/papersize but no luck
[03:56] <lmoozzy81> "/ join music
[03:56] <nimrod> when i play songs in rhytmbox, it sounds like the music is on overdrive ......
[03:57] <chinosuke> How to import font tahoma, ms san serif from window to ubuntu?
[03:57] <PartialSum> chinosuke, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[03:57] <xangua> chinosuke: install 'ubuntu restricted extras'
[03:57] <NetEcho> will Screensaver and power options such as blanking the screen when  idle be affected by a VNC client?
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> chinosuke:  if you have other windows fonts you can copy them from your windows fonts directory to the users .fonts directory also
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> NetEcho:  from what ive experienced in the past. Yes.
[03:58] <NetEcho> :(
[03:58] <chinosuke> Do i need restart the system to work with those fonts
[03:58] <dsabecky> chinosuke: This blog post will tell you how to do it. http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/installing-microsoft-fonts/
[03:58] <xangua> chinosuke: no .......................
[03:58] <NetEcho> I wanna find a way to keep my laptop screen off until I need to use the laptop physically and do the rest via VNC
[03:58] <chinosuke> Thanks for your help
[03:59] <h00k> chinosuke: no, run fc-cache from the terminal
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> NetEcho:  you can spawn a vnc-session/dektop that is not seen locally on the laptop.  then the lcd can power down.. but that wont be a 'shared' desktop you will actually have 2 desktops going.
[03:59] <PartialSum> NetEcho, ssh to it, start the vnc server connect
[03:59] <NetEcho> that kinda went over my head lol
[04:00] <NetEcho> I'm using the built in VNC server
[04:00] <Mushuukyou> Question: My computer is currently partitioned with 40gigs on C:, and the rest (200 gigs) on D:.  How much drive space should I allocate towards Ubuntu, if I will be using VMware to run Windows to play games?  Is 40 gigs good enough on that one partition, or should I format the whole thing and redo the partitions to allow more for Ubuntu?
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> NetEcho:  vnc can do much more then 'share the currently seen desktop'
[04:00] <PartialSum> Mushuukyou, vmware is not a good choice for gaming
[04:00] <lsadfl> virtualbox is better
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> NetEcho:  you could have a dozen people all 'vncing' into a box each with their own desktop
[04:00] <nimrod> what shall i do with rhythmbox to make it play mp3's normaly?
[04:00] <Mushuukyou> Partial, I was told to get "wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/sun_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -"
[04:01] <NetEcho> Dr_Willis how do I set it up to do that?
[04:01] <dsabecky> Mushuukyou: Seeing as most games use 3d rendering and virtual machines don't, that isn't going to work.
[04:01] <Mushuukyou> Partial, I meant virtualbox
[04:01] <h00k> !codecs | nimrod
[04:01] <lmoozzy81> how come nothing happens
[04:01] <spanther> dsabecky, but virtualbox has 3D rendering support you can enable in settings of your virtual machine :)
[04:01] <nimrod> ok, thanks h00k
[04:01] <forensicwannabe> when installing an os, does it write to the first open sectors, and continue to write to the hard drive in a contiguous file?
[04:01] <drago> I dont hav much time but wanted to vent.  Ubuntu 9.04 live cd detected my video/monitor perfectly.  even set my resolution to default 1680x1050, which ive never been able to do in 8.04, despite lots of time.  so i actually upgraded, despite not wanting to break anything else.  now as soon as i reboot, it doesnt detect nothin - back to square 1!  im sure nobody here can tell me how to start that driver setting gui, but i just wante
[04:01] <drago> d to vent.  argh.
[04:01] <h00k> nimrod: no prob :)
[04:02] <PartialSum> dsabecky, spanther virtualbox's 3d is very limited
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> NetEcho:  I jusdt install the vnc4server, and configure it to run whatever i want by editing .vnc/xstartup   check the wiki/vnc4server page/docs.. it might not be how you want to do things.
[04:02] <spanther> PartialSum, what is working then? ^^
[04:02] <Mushuukyou> Partial, You don't think Virtualbox will run Darkfall Online, for instance?
[04:02] <dsabecky> You're best off using WINE or dual boot.
[04:02] <tj83> !realtek > tj83
[04:02] <PartialSum> spanther, wine can run some games, but dual boot is your best bet
[04:02] <NetEcho> !vnc4server
[04:02] <spanther> PartialSum, i know about both solutions :) i just was curious about virtual machine technology ^^
[04:03] <lmoozzy81> i have hit " / join and room name and yet nothing what am i doing wrong
[04:03] <h00k> lmoozzy81: make sure to use # before the room name
[04:03] <aryah> hello! are there any single-player text-only (like interactive fiction, not like rougelikes) RPGs ? at all? for linux? google is not being too helpfull..
[04:03] <lmoozzy81> thank u
[04:03] <PartialSum> Mushuukyou, by the looks no
[04:03] <m3onh0x> what is best ubuntu clonening tool ?
[04:03] <PartialSum> aryah, nethack
[04:03] <lmoozzy81> " / join #music
[04:03] <lsadfl> teeworlds is a good game
[04:03] <anom01y_2> ok
[04:04] <PartialSum> m3onh0x, partimage is alright also see !backup
[04:04] <traskbt> When I plug-in my USB drive a "USB Drive" icon appears in "Computer" but when I try to access it it says "No media in the drive"
[04:04] <m3onh0x> thanks
[04:04] <lsadfl> !backup
[04:04] <anom01y_2> I ran jockey-gtk, enabled nvidia, reset, now my monitor gives me a message saying "Ananog      out of range     80.8khz / 65 hz"
[04:04] <traskbt> I tried accessing it with gparted but it didn't show up
[04:04] <anom01y_2> soreau, I know it was on 60 hz before
[04:04] <lmoozzy81> "/#music
[04:04] <anom01y_2> er sorry soreau  I meant to say "so"
[04:05] <Frijolie> how do you change the shutdown timer?
[04:05] <h00k> lmoozzy81: you're going to want:  /join #music
[04:05] <Mushuukyou> Is looks like Darkfall Online will work in WINE
[04:05] <aryah> PartialSum, but, something thats not a rougelike? I though something w more plot and stuff, and less killing; parser interface, room-by-room movement, ASK/TELL NPC conversations, literary descriptions instead of ASCII art
[04:05] <spanther> anom01y_2, you need to start sax2 -r and configure your xserver with your new nvidia driver and resolution and hz range :)
[04:05] <Frijolie> "will shut down in 60 seconds", I want it to shut down immediately
[04:05] <lmoozzy81> ok
[04:05] <h00k> lmoozzy81: for more IRC help, join the #help channel also
[04:06] <PartialSum> aryah, hm, i dont know of any
[04:06] <traskbt> I can't access my USB drive when I plug it in.
[04:06] <thiebaude> Frijolie: click the shutdown button
[04:06] <anom01y_2> spanther, should I run that in the command shell or in xfce ?
[04:06] <spanther> command shell
[04:06] <Frijolie> thiebaude, everytime? I don't want to have to do that...
[04:06] <spanther> without x running
[04:06] <anom01y_2> ok I will try thanks
[04:06] <netuno> Frijolie - in the terminal console become root then "shutdown -h now"
[04:06] <anom01y_2> ok
[04:06] <aryah> hm, thx anyways
[04:06] <cWo_sAoSiN_fZ> hi
[04:06] <Frijolie> netuno, yeah, is there no way to change the applet?
[04:07] <Jorge__> hi, i need some help. This is my first time on an IRC channel, and I have a big issue with Ubuntu, it's been shutting down suddenly with no aparent reason, Please help me!!!
[04:07] <netuno> well why dont you click the button?
[04:07] <m3onh0x> how to system dist-upgrade so keep old apps and my ubuntu config ?
[04:08] <m3onh0x> I don't want use old apps
[04:08] <koshari> m3onh0x same version?
[04:08] <Frijolie> guess that means no
[04:08] <m3onh0x> i use ubuntu 9
[04:08] <thiebaude> Frijolie: add a shutdown thing to the panel?
[04:08] <h00k> m3onh0x: ubuntu 9.04 is the latest release
[04:09] <Jeruvy> Jorge__: can you open a terminal?  pastebin your /var/log/messages to the pastebin in the /topic for this channel. and then respond with the link.
[04:09] <Frijolie> thiebaude, that's the one that I'm using. The fast-user-switch applet
[04:09] <Frijolie> I think it's called
[04:09] <m3onh0x> keep button quit from menu drop to panel
[04:09] <dsabecky> Frijolie: Check out this thread, it explains everything: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1095977
[04:09] <Mushuukyou> So my question still stands:  HOw much partition space should I give Ubuntu *IF* I wanted to play Windows games, and run vmware/virtualbox/WINE ?
[04:09] <jimisrvrox> hey guys im running xubuntu 8.10 and having probs with this 4318 card not showing up in NM
[04:09] <Mushuukyou> Is 40 gigs good enough
[04:10] <dsabecky> Mushuukyou: 40 GB is more than enough
[04:10] <Mushuukyou> ok great thanks
[04:10] <IdleOne> Mushuukyou, yup that's enough
[04:10] <Mushuukyou> I know when you install windows, it loves to use 25 gigs
[04:10] <Frijolie> dsabecky, thanks, I'll check it out
[04:10] <lsadfl> modprobe
[04:11] <thiebaude> dsabecky: thanks ,i'll try that link too
[04:11] <dsabecky> jimisrvrox: Check out this thread, it should help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[04:12] <Frijolie> dsabecky, don't know why my search terms didn't pull that up. I'm embarassed.
[04:13] <BunnySkankin> .... i half to create an NTFS partition, but my whole drive is partitioned for ubuntu... so does anyone have experience with this, using "parted" pm me ty
[04:13] <MK13> Mushuukyou: i have installed windows on only 7 gigs b4...
[04:13] <Mushuukyou> oh nice
[04:13] <h00k> !gparted | BunnySkankin
[04:14] <MK13> mushuukyou: from XP - Windows 7
[04:14] <dsabecky> BunnySkankin: You'll have to partition it from a boot CD seeing as you can't unmount an active drive.
[04:14] <thiebaude> i dont have a pidgin icon no more, i use to right click on it to exit, now i cant, any suggestion
[04:14] <anom01y> spanther, ok I tried killing X and running sax2 -r
[04:14] <anom01y> says command not found
[04:14] <baughtman> hi all has anyone had problems with this video chipset in 9.04 jaunty? 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 04)
[04:14] <anom01y> I tried searching apt got a huge list not quite sure where this "sax" program is.
[04:15] <onats> hi, how do i connect the vpn client (openvpn) from network-manager-openvpn using command line?
[04:15] <lba> How can I load Windows XP on a 200 gig partition followed by Kubuntu on another 200 gig primary and protect Kubuntu from being overwritten by Windows on an update or fixpack?
[04:15] <spanther> anom01y, i tried to tell you but you was away ^^" i mixed something. sax was in suse
[04:15] <dsabecky> baughtman: Check out this thread, it should help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1136738
[04:15] <PLyTheMan> I'm trying to upgrade from 8.1 to jaunty and I have the .iso mounted to cdrom0 but it keeps saying it "can't find the autorun program"
[04:15] <baughtman> dsabecky, TY I will
[04:15] <anom01y> ahhhhh
[04:15] <anom01y> ok
[04:15] <xangua> baughtman: try to activate proposed and backport updates
[04:15] <ntnhan> when installing skype, I got an error: "dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read in buffer_copy (failed to write to pipe in copy)"
[04:15] <spanther> anom01y, but what is your nvidia graphics card model?
[04:15] <ntnhan> any idea?
[04:15] <anom01y> 6200 geforce
[04:16] <ntnhan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224495
[04:16] <reid> whoever told me to use mpd, thank you very much.. it is the awesomest thing I've ever seen in my life
[04:16] <dsabecky> anom01y: Have you tried using the nVidia video manager?
[04:16] <ntnhan> my Ubuntu 8.04
[04:16] <thiebaude> how does someone close pidgin, i dont have the pidgin icon in the panel
[04:16] <xangua> lba: everything is gonna be fine, always install windows and then any other OS
[04:16] <spanther> dsabecky, he cant since he cant join x cause out of sync issue
[04:16] <dsabecky> Ohh.
[04:16] <BunnySkankin> ty becky,h00k
[04:16] <anom01y> jockey-gtk installed the nvidia driver fine, I just get that starnge resolution problem on loading X
[04:16] <spanther> isnt 6200 nvidia legacy driver and not latest?
[04:17] <anom01y> "Analog    out of range   80.8 khz / 65 hz"
[04:17] <xangua> spanther: tools> preferences to activate pidgin icon, to finish it Control + Q
[04:17] <dsabecky> anom01y: Have you tried loading into recovery and trying "Repair video" option?
[04:17] <lba> xangua, OK but I'm worried on how to backup the grub settings so I could go back withour reinstalling everything.
[04:17] <anom01y> dsabecky, I am in failsafe mode (640x480)
[04:17] <xangua> thiebaude:  tools> preferences to activate pidgin icon, to finish it Control + Q
[04:17] <spanther> xand, what? i dont need pidgin icon ^^
[04:17] <anom01y> not sure where this repair video option is
[04:18] <xangua> lba: the will be always super grub disk
[04:18] <dsabecky> anom01y: What revision of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:18] <anom01y> dsabecky, repair video ?
[04:18] <spanther> anom01y, you really should have installed nvidia drivers with hardware driver tool in ubuntu ^^
[04:18] <anom01y> 8.10 or something
[04:18] <thiebaude> thanks xangua
[04:18] <lba> xangua, You mean I should create Supergrub just in case?
[04:18] <anom01y> spanther hardware driver tool ?
[04:18] <dsabecky> anom01y: First and foremost, update to 9.04. Possibly that will fix it.
[04:18] <chinosuke> installed msttcorefont but it is not include
[04:18] <anom01y> jockey-gtk doesnt work ?
[04:18] <chinosuke> tahoma
[04:18] <anom01y> why ?
[04:18] <dsabecky> chinosuke: Have you refreshed your font cache?
[04:18] <MK13> thiebaude: just go to file > close
[04:18] <xangua> lba: Super grub disk is a live cd to restore the brub
[04:18] <anom01y> I don't like kde 4
[04:19] <chinosuke> yes fc-cache -fv
[04:19] <PLyTheMan> I'm trying to upgrade from 8.1 to jaunty and I have the .iso mounted to cdrom0 but it keeps saying it "can't find the autorun program".  I tried the commands here ( http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading ) and they did nothing
[04:19] <chinosuke> i think i need to import manually
[04:19] <spanther> anom01y, at ubuntu you can go at System -> Settings -> Hardware Drivers
[04:19] <thiebaude> what do i do after preferences?
[04:19] <lba> xangua, Thanks for the tip.  I'll try that first.
[04:19] <anom01y> spanther isn't that the jockey program ?
[04:20] <anom01y> btw: I am using xfce
[04:20] <anom01y> so I don't have a k menu
[04:20] <h00k> PLyTheMan: you can upgrade if you're online already, you don't have to use the ISO
[04:20] <dsabecky> PLyTheMan: Check out this blog thread, it should help you out: http://bicchi.blogspot.com/2007/10/upgrade-ubuntu-from-iso-image.html
[04:20] <MK13> thiebaude: don't worry about preferences... just go to tools > close
[04:20] <h00k> !upgrade | PLyTheMan
[04:20] <spanther> anom01y,  ooh okay. i use ubuntu so i have another menu as you have mmh i dont know then never used xubuntu
[04:20] <anom01y> spanther what is the command name of this "hardware drivers" program
[04:21] <PLyTheMan> h00k: my internet on that comp is all messed up... it refuses to work with my internet line, just wi-fi from across teh street
[04:21] <anom01y> spanther right click it for me and get what the command file name is for it
[04:21] <spanther> anom01y, but i know your out of sync issue and i had it some times too in past. there is a fix for it
[04:21] <h00k> anom01y: jockey-gtk
[04:21] <thiebaude> kewl guys i got it thanks, now i can right click on the icon to close
[04:21] <thiebaude> why isn't that by default
[04:21] <anom01y> I thought so, I tried the jockey-gtk program already
[04:21] <thiebaude> on the panel
[04:21] <spanther> anom01y, lol yes its jockey-gtk :D
[04:21] <J-_> When install Ubuntu(for the desktop) does ufw come with a bunch of definitions already? If so, would installing it in a minimal installation have the same definitions as the desktop CD? Minimal as in, no GUI/WM. Just plain with xorg installed.
[04:21] <rocko> how do you connect to a windows network share from the terminal ?
[04:21] <anom01y> maybe in my xorg.conf file there is a setting for the screen resolution / freq
[04:22] <spanther> anom01y, never watched into it. just clicked at the menu name which was called different
[04:22] <Fede_cba_28> simple question here, anybody?
[04:22] <Drikan> Hello need a little help been poring through the Forums but just can find any one with my issue.      i have HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H40N now ive seen people with that drive and there working fine. but when ever i insert a dvd it fails to mount and after about a minit or so locks the whole system i cant even get switch to a terminal.  the drive works just fine in windows vista no problems what so ever. please some one help!!
[04:22] <spanther> anom01y, well as i know the new xorg.conf file is weird. not that easy to set by hand
[04:23] <anom01y> hmm
[04:23] <spanther> anom01y, but i bet there's a way you can write your own xorg.conf by tutorial and use it with forced resolutions :)
[04:23] <anom01y> h00k, how do I fix my screen settings in xorg ?
[04:23] <Jeruvy> Drikan: can you pastebin a 'sudo lshw'?
[04:23] <Fede_cba_28> hello, i dont find the Live cd for last  Ubuntu release, anybody?
[04:23] <Drikan> jeruvy: yes just a sec
[04:23] <xangua> Fede_cba_28: ubuntu.com
[04:23] <J-_> !xorg
[04:23] <anom01y> spanther yeah well I need to set the frequency first via the command because I can't even load X11 right now
[04:23] <spanther> Fede_cba_28, go ubuntu.com and click at it
[04:23] <Jeruvy> Fede_cba_28: use the desktop, its a livecd
[04:24] <J-_> anom01y: ^^
[04:24] <Fede_cba_28> oh! ok then!
[04:24] <Fede_cba_28> Thanks°°!!
[04:24] <Drikan> jeruvy: http://pastebin.com/f6888420b
[04:24] <spanther> anom01y, but i dont know it out of my head how to build an xorg.conf resolution line ^^" sorry
[04:25] <rocko> How do i make another linux box connect to my sharing folder on my laptop through the terminal ?
[04:25] <h00k> !samba | rocko
[04:25] <spanther> anom01y, which driver version did you use?
[04:25] <Jeruvy> Drikan: is this a wubi install?
[04:26] <anom01y> spanther I just used whaever the jockey-gtk installed for me
[04:26] <anom01y> I also tried installing nvidia-glx-new
[04:26] <spanther> anom01y, as google says the 6200 is under legacy so nvidia-glx-new cant work
[04:26] <Drikan> jeruvy: no ubuntu 9.04
[04:26] <anom01y> I am pretty dissapointed in nvidia lately, my friend can't even get his 8800 gt nvidia to work
[04:26] <spanther> anom01y, you need legacy driver for old cards
[04:26] <Jeruvy> Drikan: all I'm seeing is windows partitions...
[04:26] <anom01y> spanther, where do I get the legacy driver ?
[04:26] <spanther> v173
[04:27] <spanther> um :/
[04:27] <voss> anom, My 9800 gt iw working fine in 9.04 so that an 8800 doesnt work is kinda weird
[04:27] <spanther> i never needed it so i dont know anom01y i have an 8800gt and it works with v180 so latest
[04:27] <anom01y> voss, my buddy has been fighting with it for a month
[04:27] <Drikan> jeruvy: yea my windows on on my first hdd ubuntu is on my second
[04:27] <Elone> question: can i have a machine doing loggings on connections , but i don't want the HDD keep on spinning all the time, is there is away to cache the data on ram and flush it like once a day to the disk? like setting a very large buffer and disable write thru?
[04:27] <h00k> !nvidia | anom01y
[04:27] <voss> anom, maybe he needs to try a clean install
[04:27] <anom01y> voss, we've reinstalled 100 times now
[04:27] <Drikan> jeruvy: i can dual boot just fine
[04:28] <anom01y> ahh well
[04:28] <Jeruvy> Drikan: ah it a dual-boot then?
[04:28] <Drikan> jeruvy: yea i booted in to vista just to make sure my drive wasnt the issue and it works just fine
[04:28] <anom01y> every time we tried that jockey program it forces the resolution to 640x480
[04:29] <PLyTheMan> dsabecky: I followed the link you sent me, but when I enter: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"  it says: sh  Can't open /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[04:29] <h00k> !nvidia | anom01y
[04:29] <anom01y> thats on the 880
[04:29] <voss> anom, are these SLI?
[04:29] <billisnice> i have resolution problems too
[04:29] <Jeruvy> Drikan: is this a retail dvd or a burnt dvd?  If a burnt you may need to install the media drivers for playing dvd's
[04:29] <billisnice> it revert back on restart
[04:29] <anom01y> those ubuntu forums never work for me
[04:29] <TimReichhart> could anybody help me getting .citadel to come up on my server
[04:29] <Jeruvy> Drikan: er 'if a retail'...not burnt sorry.
[04:30] <baughtman> dsabecky, ty ty i believe that fixed my video issue (intel)
[04:30] <Cypher67> i have problems with brasero to burn dvds
[04:30] <anom01y> whats the difference between a legacy driver, binary driver, or proprietary driver ????
[04:30] <h00k> anom01y: perhaps you're doing something wrong
[04:30] <peterloorke> hi, i'm trying to boot from usb stick. i configured my bios settings and i created a bootable disk (and i'm sure it's working i tested it in another windoz computer) but i can't from my ubuntu machine
[04:30] <anom01y> andry, does jockey-gtk install legacy drivers ?
[04:30] <Drikan> jeruvy: the install i downloaded it and burnt it. its not just dvd's its cd's as well any disk i place in the drive locks my system after about a min
[04:30] <anom01y> er andry sorry meant to say "and"
[04:30] <baughtman> dsabecky, i spoke too soon lol, still broke :(
[04:31] <thiebaude> anom01y: legacy is an older driver, proprietary driver is a non-free driver i dont know about binary
[04:31] <anom01y> h00k, does jockey-gtk install the legacy drivers for nvidia ?
[04:31] <h00k> anom01y: legacy drivers are older, binary/proprietary drivers are provided and maintained by the manufacturer (ATI/NVIDIA) and bugs must be fixed through those companies
[04:31] <anom01y> how do I get old drivers ?
[04:31] <anom01y> ok
[04:32] <thiebaude> proprietary=closed source
[04:32] <anom01y> so the 6200 requires the legacy drivers apparently (according to spanther)
[04:32] <h00k> anom01y: which version are you on?
[04:32] <Jeruvy> Drikan: your issue sounds like it may be unrelated to the burner...check out the bugs re: 'lock up one minute'.  Ask ubottu about !bugs if you need a pointer to the bug tracker.
[04:32] <anom01y> how do I check ?
[04:33] <baughtman> what are some alternate drivers i can list in xorg.conf for older intel chips? besides "intel"
[04:33] <h00k> anom01y: you can click System -> About Ubuntu
[04:33] <Drikan> ubottu: !bugs
[04:33] <h00k> anom01y: you can also type: lsb_release -a in a terminal
[04:33] <anom01y> hook, I am using xfce
[04:33] <anom01y> ahh thanks
[04:33] <xangua> baughtman: for intel issues try to activate backports and proposed updates
[04:34] <anom01y> hook, 8.04
[04:34] <anom01y> I hate upgrading especially with old hardware
[04:34] <Cypher67> anom0ly- do yyou use xubuntu?
[04:34] <spanther> weird. there's no nvidia-glx-legacy driver inside the repos Oo
[04:34] <baughtman> xangua,  TY can you be more descriptive in the proceedure?
[04:34] <ienorand> spanther: its just a different version no. afaik
[04:34] <anom01y> anom01y, I installed kubuntu and installed xfce4
[04:34] <bfisher> has anyone implemented a basic mail server with ubuntu with the need to archive all mail?
[04:35] <spanther> ienorand, yes but which one :)
[04:35] <Cypher67> im on xubuntu
[04:35] <xangua>  baughtman: Sys> Admon> Software origins (the last one i am not very sure since i use Gnome in spanish)
[04:35] <h00k> anom01y: which card did you say you have?
[04:35] <dogdaynoon> I need to run a chmod on alot of folders and files in one directory. what would i use for options to make sure that i get every thing in the folder?
[04:35] <anom01y> h00k, geforce 6200
[04:35] <h00k> dogdaynoon: chmod xxx -R /folder/location/here
[04:35] <anom01y> should I try to install nvidia-glx-legacy ?
[04:36] <dogdaynoon> capital R?
[04:36] <anom01y> with apt ?
[04:36] <Frijolie> is there any sound gurus in here? i'm having difficulty with a sound issue on my lappy
[04:36] <Cypher67> anom0ly- synaptic
[04:36] <spanther> anom01y, go try  "nvidia-96-kernel-source" together with "nvidia-glx-96"  :-)  driver+kernel package for v96
[04:36] <anom01y> or nvidia-glx-legacy-envy
[04:36] <dogdaynoon> ok... I got it \. Thanks Hook
[04:36] <Frijolie> and nothing in the forums are/is helping
[04:36] <h00k> anom01y: hold a sec, looking
[04:37] <Cypher67> Frijolie whatś your issue?
[04:37] <anom01y> spanther kernel source ????????
[04:37] <su> Cypher...I don't mean to interrupt...I have a xubuntu question
[04:37] <anom01y> that would be a nightmare
[04:37] <spanther> anom01y, with "sudo apt-cache search nvidia-glx" you can search all versions
[04:38] <Cypher67> su-go on
[04:38] <spanther> anom01y, noo its the binary kernel module source not kernel source for own kernel builds
[04:38] <h00k> anom01y: do nvidia-glx
[04:38] <su> would you know by chance how to make panels reappear?
[04:38] <su> i had 3, removed 1 and they all disappeared
[04:38] <cgkades_> gnome-pannel
[04:38] <cgkades_> is the command
[04:38] <anom01y> h00k, I tried nvidia-glx
[04:38] <su> xfce
[04:38] <h00k> anom01y: if it requires anything else, it will get it automatically
[04:38] <BunnySkankin> who has tried the pirated Windows 7 already?
[04:39] <anom01y> spanther says I need to use the legacy
[04:39] <Felix14> It sucks.
[04:39] <martha_> Hi, If I have a .deb that is a driver file but is not for my kernel can I alter the .deb to make it work with my kernel
[04:39] <h00k> !piracy | BunnySkankin
[04:39] <Felix14> Vista part two.
[04:39] <spanther> anom01y, yes nvidia 6200 is legacy
[04:39] <BunnySkankin> sebsebseb is paranoid that if i install it it will rootkit my machine
[04:39] <BunnySkankin> who's on board with that
[04:39] <xangua> su: alt+f2>gnome-panel>enter
[04:39] <anom01y> h00k, see spanther says its legacy
[04:39] <anom01y> h00k, I tried the nvidia-glx,
[04:39] <glitsj16> su: xfce4-panel
[04:39] <h00k> anom01y: okay, grab legacy and remove nvidia-glx
[04:39] <anom01y> ok
[04:39] <Jeruvy> !ot | BunnySkankin one...
[04:39] <anom01y> h00k, ok
[04:40] <phixxor> did google just go down?
[04:40] <MK13> BunnySkankin: you can get the non-pirated Windows 7 direct from their website... and it still doesnt match Ubuntu...
[04:40] <su> hmm..says failed to execute child process
[04:40] <toddy> how do u get msn messenger on linux?
[04:40] <anom01y> h00k, do I have to run nvidia-xconfig ?
[04:40] <anom01y> or modify my xorg.conf file ??
[04:40] <Jeruvy> phixxor: hehe seriously...
[04:40] <h00k> anom01y: nvidia-xconfig
[04:40] <MK13> toddy: look in the add/remove programs
[04:40] <xxploit> toddy, use pidgin
[04:40] <phixxor> is google.com working for you guys? it just stopped working for me
[04:40] <anom01y> thanks again !
[04:40] <h00k> phixxor: works for me
[04:40] <ienorand> phixxor: it works
[04:41] <phixxor> and searches on other sites stopped working too
[04:41] <Roasted> google works
[04:41] <su> toddy, pidgin supports the M$ messenging
[04:41] <spanther> anom01y, you can modify your xorg.conf by hand but you need a good tutorial for it. i dont have any as bookmark yet
[04:41] <phixxor> ok its on my end then
[04:41] <toddy> thanks
[04:41] <Drikan> jeruvy: what program auto mounts cd's?
[04:41] <h00k> toddy: pidgin is already installed by default :)
[04:41] <martha_> did anyone catch that
[04:41] <anom01y> ok brb spanther h00k
[04:41] <phixxor> thanks
[04:41] <MagicDuck> hi I am having a problem with gnome-settings-daemon in jaunty. it errors out with: (gnome-settings-daemon:12597): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error: assertion `src != NULL' failed
[04:41] <ienorand> phixxor: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[04:41] <spanther> Drikan, isnt it udev? :)
[04:41] <glitsj16> su: might be something stuck, killall xfce4-panel and try starting it up again
[04:41] <phixxor> thanks
[04:41] <Tetracomm> phixxor: It works.
[04:42] <Drikan> spanther: i dont know im rather new to linux
[04:42] <phixxor> now it's working again
[04:42] <phixxor> weird
[04:42] <h00k> anom01y: any luck?
[04:42] <su> says no process killed
[04:42] <phixxor> it was taking me to verizon's search page every time before
[04:42] <anom01y> h00k no nvidia-xconfig
[04:42] <su> are there any dashes or anything to type along with the command?
[04:42] <spanther> Drikan, that was no real question. more like "i think it is udev"
[04:42] <anom01y> it got removed
[04:42] <h00k> anom01y: reinstall that package, then
[04:42] <su> i'm running 8.04
[04:42] <glitsj16> su: is this a persistent issue ? i mean, do you get the panels back after a logout/login ?
[04:42] <su> nope
[04:43] <anom01y> h00k it wants to remove the legacy drivers lol
[04:43] <su> no panels after reboot
[04:43] <Level15> hey, on ubuntu 9.04 i try to compile somethind and get error: ‘strlen’ was not declared in this scope. what am i missing
[04:43] <h00k> anom01y: d'oh.
[04:43] <spanther> anom01y, i dont think the control center works with old legacy drivers
[04:43] <anom01y> hmm
[04:43] <h00k> spanther: yeah, thats what it sounds like. :(
[04:43] <spanther> anom01y, but you can set resolution and hz in xorg.conf
[04:43] <anom01y> ok
[04:43] <su> heyyy!!!
[04:43] <Frijolie> Cypher67, At random times my sound will go out and constantly "beep" at me until I reboot the machine
[04:44] <billisnice> anyone with experence with Nolapro? for an off the record chat?
[04:44] <xangua> su: alt+f2>gnome-panel>enter doesn't work ¿¿
[04:44] <su> i got it.......
[04:44] <Tetracomm> I forgot how to turn  off the splash screen and show the startup process in Ubuntu...How?
[04:44] <anom01y> should my xorg.conf say "nv" or "nvidia"
[04:44] <anom01y> ?
[04:44] <su> instead of kill
[04:44] <h00k> anom01y: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[04:44] <su> i just typed in xfce4-panel
[04:44] <Jeruvy> Drikan: they should automount when you put them in
[04:44] <spanther> anom01y, nv = free nvidia driver (opensource) but only 2D rendering.  nvidia = closed source binary nvidia driver
[04:44] <xangua> su. do you use gnome or xfce ¿¿
[04:44] <Drikan> yea i know
[04:44] <glitsj16> su: nice
[04:44] <su> xfce
[04:44] <su> yayyyy!!
[04:44] <Drikan> jeruvy: i know but im thinking thats the issue
[04:44] <su> thank you oodles and oodles and oodles!!!
[04:44] <su> :)
[04:45] <anom01y> spanther so I need "nv"
[04:45] <spanther> anom01y, no you need nvidia :)
[04:45] <Level15> hello? anyone tried to compile something that uses strlen recently?
[04:45] <spanther> anom01y, nv is a free driver. not the original nvidia one with 3D acceleration
[04:45] <anom01y> so the legacy driver is closed source ?
[04:45] <su> thank you thank you thank you thank you!!
[04:45] <su> ttfn!!!
[04:45] <Level15> meaning on 9.04?
[04:45] <c0l2e> how can I set the default page size in ubuntu???
[04:45] <Drikan> jeruvy: or at lest part of it if i can just manualy mount it and see if it locks up
[04:45] <Jeruvy> Drikan: I could not see any issue with the hardware, so it may be package related.
[04:45] <spanther> anom01y, yes just for old cards but closed source
[04:45] <h00k> Level15: make sure that you have build-essentials installed
[04:45] <anom01y> ok
[04:45] <h00k> Level15: it could also be something in the code that is wrong
[04:46] <spanther> anom01y, they had to split into 2 driver deliverings cause the new driver cant work together with old cards because there is to much tech differences
[04:46] <Jeruvy> Drikan: or a bad optical ;(
[04:46] <Level15> h00k: I have them, and I have seen this code compile on 8.04 and 8.10.
[04:46] <Drikan> jeruvy: ive only used apt-get or synaptic package manager
[04:46] <c0l2e> page size setting how to in ubuntu??
[04:46] <h00k> Level15: what exactly is it?
[04:46] <Drikan> jeruvy: well if its a bad optical then it would not work in vista
[04:46] <Jeruvy> Drikan: can you put in a blank CD?  Does it recognize it?
[04:47] <Level15> h00k: visualizator of wireless simulation trace files for ns2 network simulator...
[04:47] <Frijolie> followed this URL to attempt to fix it but no dice: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1144687&highlight=ATI+IXP+AC97
[04:48] <Frijolie> that URL explains exactly what happens but doesn't look like theres a fix and it's even the same sound card as verified by lspci
[04:48] <c0l2e> please help me on setting default page size
[04:48] <Frijolie> "PulseAudio fixes" didn't/doesn't help
[04:48] <ienorand> c0l2e: That == swap innit?
[04:48] <Drikan> jeruvy: well it states it cant mount it. but i havent locked up yet
[04:48] <Jeruvy> Drikan: if so, and it's just dvd's giving you grief, I'd report it as a bug.  Use the lshw report you pasted earlier and other detail you think are pertinent.
[04:48] <h00k> Level15: er...not quite sure, then.
[04:48] <c0l2e> ienorand ??
[04:49] <Jeruvy> Drikan: hmm.  You've got me on this one :)
[04:49] <PLyTheMan> I made a bootable usb stick to upgrade to Jaunty...  If I do this will it upgrade my OS or format/reinstall?
[04:49] <Level15> h00k: does anyone know if includes have changed in the version of gcc/g++ of 9.04?
[04:49] <c0l2e> ienorand: my openoffice always set to A4 I want to change it to letter... already change the /etc/papersize but still after reboot always on A4
[04:49] <ienorand> c0l2e: pagefile is virtual memory, right?, on GNU/Linux that is normally handled by a separate dedicated partition.
[04:50] <c0l2e> ienorand: paper size not pagefile
[04:50] <ienorand> c0l2e: ah, misunderstood
[04:50] <h00k> Level15: not quite sure,
[04:50] <c0l2e> ienorand: it's ok
[04:50] <Jeruvy> c0l2e: I recall a bug report about that.  Did you take a peek?
[04:50] <IndyGunFreak> PLyTheMan: that depends i guess.. typically a bootable disk, is to do a clean install.
[04:50] <IndyGunFreak> PLyTheMan: but if you used an alternate install ISO on the thumb drive, you can use the alternate install CD to upgrade an existing install
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> !upgrade | PLyTheMan
[04:51] <PLyTheMan> IndyGunFreak: I mounted the .iso to a virtual drive but it "couldn't find autorun program"
[04:51] <PLyTheMan> I've tried those, no good
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> PLyTheMan: then you've not read it..
[04:51] <PLyTheMan> when I Alt-F2 and enter: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[04:51] <PLyTheMan> nothing happens
[04:51] <Lyez> need advice.  linux/ubuntu noob.  looking for a html editor that is similar to dreamweaver, any suggestions
[04:51] <cgkades> do you add the quotes?
[04:51] <PLyTheMan> yes
[04:52] <Drikan> jeruvy: i locked up after my last msg
[04:52] <cgkades> try not using quotes
[04:52] <h00k> PLyTheMan: run that from the terminal without quotes
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> PLyTheMan: it answers your questions.. if you use a "Live" ISO.. its going to want to do a clean install... if you want to upgrade w/ a CD, you need to use the alternate cd
[04:52] <PLyTheMan> okay, I'll give that a shot
[04:52] <cgkades> or from a terminal
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> cgkades: he'd have to use the quotes
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> the quotes aren't going to matter
[04:52] <PLyTheMan> aight, lemme get out of this live install and try no quotes
[04:52] <F0rg101> Hi Im trying to use gparted to create a new partition on a 750Gb ntsf hd;  i was told to use a live cd but i still cant change the size on the main partition
[04:52] <billisnice> howdy
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> F0rg101: is it mounted?
[04:53] <Jeruvy> Drikan: try booting to 'recovery mode' and review the /var/log/messages to see  whats causing your lockups?  I have seen many bugs about this problem.
[04:53] <glitsj16> Lyez: kompozer might be worth a try if you like dreamweaver
[04:53] <billisnice> anyway to change ext3 to ext4 without reinstalling?
[04:53] <F0rg101> IndyGunFreak: how would i check? i see it in gparted
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> F0rg101: right click it, is there an unmount option
[04:54] <Drikan> cant i check the ver/log/messages now?
[04:54] <F0rg101> nope
[04:54] <New> Hey guys.. Who wants to be my tutor for a little while?  I just installed ubuntu, and this program is the first one I installed with terminal.. Me=proud
[04:54] <IndyGunFreak> F0rg101: hmm, no clue.
[04:54] <IndyGunFreak> New: well what do you need tutored on
[04:54] <New> lol, cracking a wep haha
[04:54] <Esde[irssi]> Try(hd0,0):FAT32:NO WUBILDR Try(hd0,1):NTFS5:no wubildr Try(hd0,2):Invalid or Null Try(hd0,3):Invalid or Null Error: Cannot find GRLDR in all devices. Any Help?
[04:55] <Lyez> thank you
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> New: i doubt you're gonna find many people here to help you w/ that
[04:55] <voss> Honestly WYSIWYG Web page creation has been a weak point with ubuntu, as has Desktop publishing
[04:55] <anom01y> h00k: ok
[04:55] <ziroday> New: we can't help you with that here, sorry.
[04:55] <cgkades> new: try forums.remote-exploit.org for cracking wep, just make sure it's your own wep or you'll get the ban
[04:55] <New> why is that?
[04:55] <h00k> anom01y: any luck with anything?
[04:55] <F0rg101> IndyGunFreak:  i get the resize button i get in the resize window but the min and max size is the same
[04:55] <anom01y> now, after installing that legacy driver my computer is mega screwed
[04:55] <F0rg101> never had issues before
[04:55] <cgkades> new or googling aircrack-ng
[04:55] <Jeruvy> New: if you have to ask in #ubuntu your a frickin newb
[04:55] <cgkades> there is a tutorial on there
[04:56] <anom01y> I am on the live cd now, so I am going to examine the xorg.conf file with whatever is on the CD's xorg.conf file
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> Jeruvy: exactly
[04:56] <voss> If anyone seriously thinks Kompozer is a professional quality web page creator you need your head examined.
[04:56] <h00k> Jeruvy: please keep it friendly.
[04:56] <anom01y> Im thinking about putting back in my old nvidia 5700
[04:56] <New> yeah, i JUST installed it haha. I am a newb, no doubt about it
[04:56] <ziroday> voss: if you with to rant about kompozer, please do so in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:56] <xxploit> anom01y, i think xorg.conf should be empty in the latest ubuntu, since everything has been moved out i believe?
[04:57] <anom01y> seems to be the only nvidia card I've every seen to work so far
[04:57] <ziroday> New: cracking wep is an activity we are not allowed to help you with here.
[04:57] <Jeruvy> hook: I was :)
[04:57] <anom01y> nvidia 5700 all the way !!!
[04:57] <Esde[irssi]> Try(hd0,0):FAT32:NO WUBILDR Try(hd0,1):NTFS5:no wubildr Try(hd0,2):Invalid or Null Try(hd0,3):Invalid or Null Error: Cannot find GRLDR in all devices. Any Help? AT ALL?
[04:57] <New> ok, thats cool
[04:57] <cgkades> new: check out the information i gave you
[04:57] <anom01y> I think the new cards are all hat no horse
[04:57] <ienorand> c0l2e: http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=802
[04:57] <Jeruvy> h00k: er I was :)
[04:57] <cgkades> ... or posted on here.. what ever
[04:58] <ienorand> c0l2e: is that what you're after?
[04:58] <New> ok, cgkades, thanks a lot
[04:58] <c0l2e> ienorand: gonna check thanks
[04:58] <anom01y> h00k since i've installed the legacy driver, all the text/graphics everything is so dim I can't read anything
[04:58] <voss> Im not ranting just stating facts, Openoffice writer is professional , Firefox is excellent, Songbird is awesome. But in desktop publishing and webpage design linux in general has a long way to go to even get close.
[04:58] <PLyTheMan> So I entered [ gksu sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade ] and got [ sh: Can't open  /cdrom/cdromupgrade ]
[04:58] <cgkades> new: no problem.
[04:58] <donavan01> so does gnome/linux use KDE components without KDE installed.... im trying to learn what all is really needed in an install and whats not
[04:58] <lstarnes> PLyTheMan: are you using tha alternate cd?
[04:59] <PLyTheMan> I think its the normal one...
[04:59] <solorvox> is ext4 stable, or are there still bugs with deleting files/etc?'
[04:59] <lstarnes> donavan01: only if kde programs are installed
[04:59] <PLyTheMan> has that been my problem
[04:59] <anom01y> how do I check if the live cd I am using is running nvidia drivers ?
[04:59] <lstarnes> PLyTheMan: you need the alternate cd for that upgrade method
[04:59] <PLyTheMan> i see...  thanks for the heads up, I'll DL that and give it a shot
[04:59] <donavan01> lstarnes... dependency issues and all that right ?
[04:59] <PartialSum> anom01y, it doesnt
[04:59] <stumped> anom01y: it doesnt
[05:00] <stumped> it uses nv
[05:00] <anom01y> uses no video driverS ???
[05:00] <anom01y> ok
[05:00] <lstarnes> donavan01: kde programs require at least some of kde's libraries
[05:00] <n2diy> donavan01: if ubuntu needs a kde library for an app, like kstars, it will install it. It will work fine in gnome.
[05:00] <lstarnes> donavan01: usually they don't conflict with gnome's libraries
[05:00] <anom01y> how can I repair a system that is broke due to the drivers not working so I can't read anything
[05:00] <stumped> but you can use the nvidia drivers by opening up hardware
[05:01] <freeflying_> eleanor, hi
[05:01] <eleanor> hey
[05:01] <anom01y> its like it was 1/2 as dim as origional, then it started getting dimmer and dimmer, so I just shut down the computer
[05:01] <eleanor> I see you
[05:01] <h00k> I have to run, anom01y try booting to rescue mode
[05:01] <h00k> good luck, anom01y.
[05:01] <h00k> Peace, everyone.
[05:01] <donavan01> lstarnes , n2diy  ... thats what I was thinking ... like I said just trying to learn more about what is actually running and installed on my netbook (streamlining)
[05:01] <anom01y> well thanks
[05:01] <donavan01> thanks
[05:02] <crash1hd_> How do I do a chkdsk in ubuntu on an ntfs drive?
[05:02] <anom01y> I am 5 minutes away from installing windows vista
[05:02] <xxploit> lol
[05:02] <anom01y> (puke)
[05:02] <donavan01> quick somebody help anom0ly before M$ gets him
[05:03] <digdeep> lol
[05:03] <markl_> anom01y: heh what is your problem?
[05:03] <n2diy> donavan01: I'm playing in Xubuntu, and was very happy to get kstars installed, with no problems.
[05:03] <markl_> that is a serious threat!
[05:03] <markl_> :)
[05:03] <Drood> Hi, can someone please tell me how to seset my video in ubuntu ? I accidentally messed it up, I am running a live cd at the moment. Can someone please help me with this.
[05:03] <majnoon> trying to used cups from vista client jaunty server it looks like it spooling from windows side but not from linux side
[05:04] <Equs> asterix
[05:04] <markl_> anom01y: do you need to re-create your xorg.conf file?
[05:04] <CreativeChemist> anyone know if usb startup disk creator will work with a windows 7 iso?
[05:04] <donavan01> n2diy... I tried xbuntu .. and it was ok but I have been trying out 9.04 netbook remix
[05:04] <anom01y> markl_: nvidia and its all seeing eye logo is conspiring against me and a friend of mine
[05:04] <anom01y> both of us have different nvidia's
[05:05] <anom01y> I have the 6200, he has the 8800 gt
[05:05] <anom01y> we can't get past 640x480 resolution
[05:05] <anom01y> I am trying to fix the 6200 atm
[05:05] <majnoon> trying to used cups from vista client jaunty server it looks like it spooling from windows side but not from linux side
[05:05] <n2diy> donavan01: roger that, gl, I try to avoid notebooks and stick to desktops, they're a lot easier to work on, and get parts for.
[05:05] <anom01y> I am running ubuntu 8.04
[05:05] <majnoon> what info you needs ??
[05:05] <josborne> how do you get a list of chat rooms
[05:06] <Drood> Can someone please help me ?
[05:06] <Jeruvy> !xorg > anom01y
[05:06] <lstarnes> josborne: in which client?
[05:06] <Jeruvy> !ask | Drood
[05:06] <evilGUI> I have Jaunty setup where I can do ctrl + alt + backspace, I hit ctrl + alt + somthing eles and x restarted.
[05:06] <Cypher67> whatś up drrod
[05:06] <donavan01> n2diy... agreed I am actually using a desktop now ... but I really wanted the netbook for portability and the eee aside from a slow HD ( which I will soon fix) and my big fat fingers I love it
[05:06] <majnoon> !cups
[05:06] <Drood> I need to reset my video configurations from the live cd
[05:06] <evilGUI> Is ctrl + alt + backspace the only button combo?
[05:07] <josborne> what do u mean
[05:07] <Drood> i messed up my video and now when i try to boot into ubuntu i get a scrambled screen
[05:07] <Cypher67> be more especific
[05:07] <lstarnes> josborne: what program are you using to connect to irc?
[05:07] <n2diy> donavan01: eee?
[05:07] <Drood> online
[05:07] <markl_> anom01y: the driver from nvidia.com rocks
[05:07] <josborne> ubuntu
[05:07] <anom01y> is there a way I can install this 8.04 live cd I have over my current linux installation without removing my home folder ???
[05:07] <glitsj16> !dontzap | evilGUI
[05:07] <lstarnes> josborne: no, that isn't it
[05:07] <Jeruvy> !xorg > Drood
[05:07] <markl_> i would definitely try that with the 8800gt - i used to have one of those and on 8.04 i couldn't use the debs
[05:07] <anom01y> markl_: no it doesnt
[05:08] <anom01y> I got a black screen when I tried it with a 8800 gt nvidia on ubuntu 8.04
[05:08] <josborne> so what am i looking for
[05:08] <Cypher67> anomoly only moving /home to anothr partition
[05:08] <evilGUI> glitsj16: I've already done that, I just wanted to know if ctrl alt backspace was the only combo that restarts x.
[05:08] <anom01y> had to reinstall (AGAIN)
[05:08] <lstarnes> josborne: the name of the program you are using to chat here
[05:08] <markl_> yuck that definitely sucks
[05:08] <rparish> how do i open a samba share with xubuntu
[05:09] <Jeruvy> anom01y: simply back up /home then go nuts
[05:09] <anom01y> I am seriously thinking about switching to an apple or something
[05:09] <glitsj16> evilGUI: like the factoid says at the end, there's another combo :)
[05:09] <Cypher67> never give up linnux
[05:09] <racecar56> ya
[05:09] <donavan01> n2diy... yeah the Asus Eee PC 900a ... got it from bestbuy for like 170$  comes with xandros linux ... which I broke about 15 mins after turning it on so it got ubuntu
[05:09] <racecar56> i dont have a netbook D:
[05:09] <josborne> as far as i know xchat gnome irc chat
[05:09] <racecar56> i have a copy of xandros 3 XD
[05:09] <racecar56> from late 2005
[05:09] <lstarnes> josborne: that seems correct
[05:09] <Cpudan80> josborne: dont use xchat-gnome
[05:10] <evilGUI> glitsj16: And those are the only combos?
[05:10] <Jeruvy> donavan01: do you mind if I ask where you are approximately?
[05:10] <Cpudan80> josborne: use the regular xchat package
[05:10] <markap> hello
[05:10] <markap> Can anyone advise if Ubuntu will run on an i7 920 processor, EVGA 132-BL-E758 MB (intel Chipset X58), 6GB DDR3 memory, Nvidia GeForece GTX 295 Video card.
[05:10] <markl_> anom01y: well if you have to reinstall, try ubuntu 9.04 - i'll bet it detects your card better
[05:10] <donavan01> west virginia USA
[05:10] <martian> Is there a utility in ubuntu to do a filesystem check/recovery of an NTFS volume?
[05:10] <racecar56> xchat-gnome dosent pwn as much as xchat
[05:10] <Drood> So does anyone know how to reset the video setting to default from the live cd ? Is there a folder I can delete ? I installed the ati drivers from the ati webpage and then enabled the propietary drivers in ubuntu, when I restarted the login screen never comes, all i get is a scrambled screen. I need to reset it somehow, is that possible without getting to the
[05:10] <glitsj16> evilGUI: i believe so, unless you start hacking and reassign keys
[05:10] <Drood> installation
[05:10] <josborne> where do i find regular xchat
[05:10] <markl_> markap: it will definitely work with the possible exception of any on-board "raid"
[05:11] <Jeruvy> martian: no, run 'chkdsk /r' from windows will do the trick
[05:11] <markap> Its hanging on the install screen
[05:11] <Cypher67> martian= fsck,ntfs ....etf
[05:11] <asdfa> can someone tell me if there is a way to download codes from the terminal.. Just doing it from the player takes FOREVER
[05:11] <markl_> markap: nice rig
[05:11] <markl_> markap: how far does it get?
[05:11] <lstarnes> josborne: go to Network > Channels
[05:11] <anom01y> WOW I can't even back up my home folder (access denied)
[05:11] <markap> the first GUI screen with the bar below the logo
[05:11] <martian> Jeruvy Cypher67 thanls
[05:11] <lstarnes> josborne: or try an online list like the ones on http://irc.netsplit.de or http://searchirc.com
[05:11] <markap> I let it sit for 30 min never moved
[05:11] <evilGUI> glitsj16: odd, becuase x seems to restart sometimes when I'm typing.
[05:11] <n2diy> donavan01: roger on the broken xandros. Never heard of that. I'm gonna google that box, sounds like it might be fun to play with.
[05:11] <markap> I also have 3 1.5 TB drives all eSATA
[05:11] <Drood> anomoly, do chown username:password -R /homedirectory
[05:12] <markl_> markap: hmm there must be a way to disable that and see the messages as it's booting
[05:12] <anom01y> well its basically impossible to get 9.04 because I don't have a computer that works
[05:12] <Cypher67> martian - fsck.ntfs /dev/xxx /mediz/xxx
[05:12] <josborne> i get to that via the intenet
[05:12] <asdfa> so patience is the only thing_
[05:12] <asdfa> ?
[05:12] <Jeruvy> martian: you can always ask in ##windows if you have further windows questions
[05:12] <Cypher67> take a look fsck man
[05:12] <markap> Im also on a 64 bot processor, should I dl the 64 bit distro or the 32 bit?
[05:12] <markap> bit*
[05:12] <josborne> or do i have to find it through my pc
[05:12] <koshari> asdfa sudo apt-get install coedecpackagename
[05:13] <Jeruvy> markap: I would
[05:13] <lstarnes> josborne: that's online
[05:13] <glitsj16> evilGUI: well, could be a different cause, hard to tell without clues ... if that happens, any errors thrown ?
[05:13] <stumped> what are you on now? anom01y?
[05:13] <Cypher67> markap - choose any
[05:13] <anom01y> if I try and backup my home folder running konqueror as root, will it change the permissions of all the files to "root" ????
[05:13] <josborne> cool
[05:13] <lstarnes> josborne: the channel list?
[05:13] <anom01y> I am on live cd btw
[05:13] <Cpudan80> markap: A few more headaches with 64 bit - but otherwise stable and good
[05:13] <markap> Ill try the 32 bit first
[05:13] <lstarnes> anom01y: in the backup, probably
[05:13] <Cypher67> markap - choose any
[05:13] <Cpudan80> markap: headaches stem from adobe having their head in the ground
[05:13] <stumped> yeah but whos computer?
[05:13] <lstarnes> josborne: what were you looking for?
[05:13] <Cypher67> markap - how many ram do u have?
[05:13] <Cpudan80> markap: if adobe would program flash correctly, then there would be no headaches ...
[05:14] <markap> Thanks, ill DL now.. should get 1-1.5 MB from utah (im in vegas)
[05:14] <Jeruvy> Cpudan80: I have no issues using YouTube with x64
[05:14] <koshari> anom01y if its owner is you it will keelp the 1000 ownership,
[05:14] <evilGUI> glitsj16: No errors in my logs or anything.
[05:14] <josborne> a chat room just to talk about average every day stuff
[05:14] <Cpudan80> Jeruvy: unless something changed, the hack to get that going is quite evil
[05:14] <markap> 6bg DDR3 Corsair
[05:14] <anom01y> how do I copy /media/sda1/home/lsemple if I get access denied
[05:14] <Cypher67> flash did well in my _x64 system
[05:14] <Cpudan80> Although it is implemented by default
[05:14] <lstarnes> markap: try the 64-bit version
[05:14] <donavan01> n2diy: yeah its pretty slick litte machine ... its got the 1.60ghz atom with 1gb of ram (upgradeable to 2gb)  mine came with a 4gb SSD PCIe HD which is kinda slow which is the major downfall to this model ... but for like 50 you can get a 16gb that way faster from Newegg
[05:14] <Jeruvy> Cpudan80: so the beta is quite unstable?
[05:14] <Cpudan80> so no more having to do it yourself
[05:14] <koshari> anom01y use cp or rsync to preserve permissians/ownership
[05:14] <Cpudan80> Jeruvy: what beta ?
[05:15] <Cypher67> markap - you must use x64 to use that amount of ram
[05:15] <glitsj16> evilGUI: quite odd indeed, although X has some known issues on jaunty ... are you using that ?
[05:15] <markap> the 64bit is the one that hung
[05:15] <markl_> my sound is very distorted on 9.04 :(
[05:15] <lstarnes> markap: you may not be able to access over 4 GB of RAM on the 32-bit version
[05:15] <Jeruvy> Cpudan80: oh for flash
[05:15] <Cpudan80> Jeruvy: I said the hack was evil, not unstable :-)
[05:15] <lstarnes> markap: try the alternate install disc
[05:15] <Jeruvy> Cpudan80: ah, ok my misunderstand sorry.
[05:15] <markl_> it should at least boot though but yeah you will lose 2G most likely
[05:15] <markap> where do I find that on the site?
[05:15] <markap> \I found it
[05:16] <Cypher67> just browse there u find markap
[05:16] <georgep> I was trying to add a new repository earlier from the software sources program, then i created a keyfile and copied and pasted the key to it. and dbl clicked it and it suposedly added the key. well now when i click on, add and remove programs i get "Failed to check for installed and available applications" and it crashes
[05:16] <n2diy> donavan01: thanks for the info, I'll definetly look into it.
[05:16] <markap> 9.04 torrent for thwe text based atl installer
[05:16] <anom01y> so how do I backup my home from a live cd ?
[05:16] <Cpudan80> Jeruvy: Flash has gotten better - but to my knowledge adobe is just wrapping 32 bit flash with an emulation layer so it works it in 64 bit ffx
[05:16] <donavan01> n2diy... NP
[05:16] <lstarnes> markap: there's also a direct download somewhere
[05:16] <Cpudan80> rather than doing their job and pushing a true 64 bit version ...
[05:16] <ubuntunoob> is this the place to ask stupid questions?
[05:16] <Cypher67> direct donload are fast
[05:16] <evilGUI> glitsj16: Yeah, I'm using Jaunty, it seems to do this atleast once a day, but only when I have alt held down.
[05:16] <lijian> hello everyone!
[05:16] <fosa> does desktop drapes still work?
[05:16] <Cpudan80> But - I could be mistaken, it might have changed since the last time I checked ...
[05:17] <Cypher67> ask noob
[05:17] <markap> its ok i am getting over 1mb dl on the torrent
[05:17] <markap> make that 1.4
[05:17] <markap> 1.6 lol
[05:17] <markap> 2mb nice speeds
[05:17] <Cypher67> whats ur link?
[05:17] <Jeruvy> Cpudan80: maybe I am not sure, adobe is evil for sure :)  But x64 .so works great in jaunty
[05:17] <fosa> what program do people recommend to rotate their desktop background?
[05:17] <glitsj16> evilGUI: have you checked for a bugreport yet on those symptoms @ bugs.launchpad.net ?
[05:18] <Cpudan80> Jeruvy: havent bumped up to JJ yet, I'lll have to find out ...
[05:18] <evilGUI> glitsj16: No, I'll check now, this is a new build so I'm hoping it's not hardware.
[05:18] <ubuntunoob> cool, when I run terminal, and for example run xchat from there, how can I go back to using terminal for other stuff again?
[05:18] <Jeruvy> Cpudan80: I did it yesterday and worked fine, once I knew where the shared library needed to go :)
[05:18] <CreativeChemist> okay im using ubuntu... i want to take a windows iso and be able to install it via a usb drive... anyone know how?
[05:18] <lstarnes> ubuntunoob: start the program with an & after it (e.g. xchat &)
[05:19] <Cpudan80> ubuntunoob: start with & after it
[05:19] <Cypher67> noob open a new tab]
[05:19] <Cpudan80> oops
[05:19] <ubuntunoob> cool, thanks
[05:19] <lstarnes> ubuntunoob: and try typing "disown" afterwards if you want to close the terminal
[05:19] <Cpudan80> sorry to steal your thunder lstarnes
[05:19] <ubuntunoob> how about now, that I already opened xchat?
[05:19] <windowsUser> should i do it? should i install ubuntu? 0.o
[05:19] <ubuntunoob> do it
[05:20] <lstarnes> ubuntunoob: close xchat then start it again from the terminal
[05:20] <solorvox> is ext4 stable, or are there still bugs with deleting files/etc?'
[05:20] <ubuntunoob> kk
[05:20] <lstarnes> ubuntunoob: also, there should be a launcher for it in the menus somewhere
[05:20] <windowsUser> i still want windows though..
[05:20] <markap> Npw when I install this it should be from a cd or use that WUBI tool?
[05:20] <markap> now*
[05:20] <donavan01> windowsuser.... you can always try it out first ... run it on virtual box till you get the hang of it
[05:21] <windowsUser> i already like it
[05:21] <windowsUser> just all my files
[05:21] <windowsUser> and things like that
[05:21] <windowsUser> windows games too
[05:21] <donavan01> windowsuser ... I switch completely one day .... but you can always do a dual boot if you want the games
[05:22] <Cypher67> donavan01-do u prefer VMbox ou VMware?
[05:22] <georgep> whats the command to tell what version of ubuntu ur running?
[05:22] <Cypher67> windowsuser can try with wine too
[05:22] <markl_> georgep: cat /etc/issue
[05:22] <lstarnes> georgep: lsb_release -a
[05:23] <donavan01> cypher67.... Vbox ... I have used them both and vbox seems a little easier to deal with but its been about a year or so since I have used VMware
[05:23] <windowsUser> The installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions:
[05:23] <anom01y> bloody hell its busy here
[05:23] <windowsUser> /dev/sda
[05:23] <windowsUser> Do you want the installer to try to unmount the partitions on these disks before continuing?  If you leave them mounted, you will not be able to create, delete, or resize partitions on these disks, but you may be able to install to existing partitions there.
[05:23] <windowsUser> HELP...?
[05:23] <FloodBot2> windowsUser: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:23] <Cypher67> donavan01- me too
[05:23] <Jonie> 哪位用kubuntu?
[05:23] <lstarnes> windowsUser: are you partitioning in an aleady installed ubuntu system?
[05:23] <lstarnes> *already
[05:23] <windowsUser> no
[05:24] <lstarnes> windowsUser: did you mount anything?
[05:24] <doc_brown> what to do if an external hard drive shows up in lsusb, but not in gparted?
[05:24] <windowsUser> It's a windows XP system
[05:24] <georgep> if i want to install barry software could i use the 8.04 or will that .deb application not work on a 9.04 system?
[05:24] <windowsUser> mount?
[05:25] <donavan01> windowsuser... all disks are mounted in linux ... its like telling the OS the drive is there
[05:25] <Omar87> The update notification bar does not show up where there are new updates available. What do I do?
[05:25] <Cypher67> uname -a also gives the info on distro
[05:26] <Omar87> Sorry, I meant the update notification icon.
[05:26] <pantang> hi has any one used mesa yet? first time using umbuntu and i'm getting a few errors when i try and install, if someone wouldnt mind having a look at what ive got would be very grateful
[05:26] <ienorand> Omar87: It's been removed in jaunty
[05:26] <donavan01> windowsuser... I think there is a utility on the ubuntu disk that will do a dual boot for you if you run it from windows
[05:26] <Omar87> ienorand: Why is that?
[05:26] <ienorand> Omar87: replaced with a pop-under
[05:26] <glitsj16> Omar87: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Change%20in%20notifications%20of%20available%20updates has a way to get the old behavior back if you want
[05:27] <Omar87> ienorand: You mean the new notification application? The black rectangle?
[05:27] <evilGUI> glitsj16: I *think* it's just my fault, I use ctrl alt left and right to switch work spaces, I might not be releasing it before hiting backspace in Irssi.
[05:27] <ienorand> Omar87: For some reason they though that it was better, I, and seemingly the majority of the userbase think their decision in that was wrong...
[05:27] <imuet> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[05:27] <ubuntunoob> GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.
[05:27] <ubuntunoob> what does that mean?
[05:28] <ienorand> Omar87: black rectangle?
[05:28] <Breetai> Hi all, I am looking at getting a system76 laptop anyone here have experience with their systems?
[05:28] <MagicDuck> hi, I am on jaunty. My middle mouse button paste and scroll wheel do not work. What can I do?
[05:28] <Omar87> ienorand: I mean the new notification window.
[05:28] <glitsj16> evilGUI: that could be it heh, always hard to change your routine, but at least it isn't hardware ;)
[05:28] <User2005> Seems I can't get the printer to work for some unknown reason for the new ubuntu...
[05:29] <MagicDuck> User2005: what is the problem?
[05:29] <ienorand> Omar87: Look at bug #332945 for loads of information and heated discussion
[05:29] <Yodogs> yoyoyo
[05:29] <User2005> can't print anything ?
[05:29] <Omar87> glitsj16: No, it's not about the old system, but I just want any sort of notification to show up to me when new updates are available. The new system doesn't seem to work with me.
[05:30] <User2005> on share or enable....
[05:30] <cewek__imuet> hiiiiiiiiiiiii
[05:30] <MagicDuck> type the following in your browser: http://localhost:631
[05:30] <glitsj16> Omar87: that's what i meant, now i believe only security updates are immediately thrown, regular ones once a week
[05:30] <doc_brown> how do you list hard drives?  /dev/sbd and so on?
[05:30] <skydart> Does anyone know of a newsgroup for phplist?
[05:30] <ienorand> Omar87: It pops up the update manager once a week or so per default
[05:31] <ienorand> doc_brown: cat /proc/partitions
[05:31] <MagicDuck> User2005: type the following in your browser: http://localhost:631
[05:31] <gnet1_> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[05:31] <windowsUser> The installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions:
[05:31] <windowsUser> /dev/sda
[05:31] <windowsUser> Do you want the installer to try to unmount the partitions on these disks before continuing?  If you leave them mounted, you will not be able to create, delete, or resize partitions on these disks, but you may be able to install to existing partitions there.
[05:31] <ienorand> gnet1_: hello
[05:31] <FloodBot2> windowsUser: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:31] <windowsUser> could this be because i'm running it from a live cd?
[05:31] <MagicDuck> sooo, anybody know how to get mouse wheel to work with the new ubuntu?
[05:31] <dsabecky> ienorand: Do you want it to show an icon in the system tray instead of just opening?
[05:32] <ienorand> dsabecky: I was talking to anither person...
[05:32] <anom01y> would upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04 fix my nvidia problems ????
[05:32] <dsabecky> ienorand: Well don't be a jerk, if I can help, what's the difference?
[05:32] <dsabecky> anom01y: Most likely.
[05:32] <Cypher67> windowuser - in what partition is windows?
[05:32] <ienorand> dsabecky: sorry
[05:32] <anom01y> dsabecky, why ?
[05:33] <dsabecky> anom01y: It uses a new version of X.org.
[05:33] <windowsUser> haven't partitioned anything
[05:33] <anom01y> I have older hardware
[05:33] <anom01y> my hardware is 3 years old
[05:33] <dsabecky> anom01y: I have the same video card as you. Just try it.
[05:33] <Cypher67> windowuser - so in sda is livecd mounted
[05:33] <anom01y> 6200
[05:33] <anom01y> that means I have to backup everyhting though
[05:33] <dsabecky> anom01y: Yes. nVidia FX 6200
[05:33] <anom01y> hmm
[05:33] <anom01y> ok
[05:33] <glitsj16> anom01y: that's not a disadvantage .. it's the brand new spiffy stuff that seems to be hard to get going
[05:34] <dsabecky> anom01y: No you don't, just run the updater.
[05:34] <ienorand> dsabecky: sorry, didn't mean to sound rude, I'm fully aware of the new behaviour and how to revert...
[05:34] <racecar56> anom01y, i have one that is 5 years old :P
[05:34] <racecar56> brb
[05:34] <Cypher67> anom0ly - can use dd command to backup
[05:34] <windowsUser> cypher67:so i just have to unmount it correct
[05:34] <anom01y> thanks ienorand
[05:34] <dsabecky> ienorand: What is your issue?
[05:34] <agoole> hum, does anyone know where I can get help with openoffice stuff? do they have an irc chanel ?
[05:34] <anom01y> I hate continually backing up and upgrading
[05:34] <Cypher67> windowuser - no need just partition it
[05:35] <lstarnes> agoole: /join #openoffice.org
[05:35] <Cypher67> anom0ly - i backed up with tar
[05:35] <agoole> lstarnes: beautiful, thank you
[05:36] <anom01y> glitsj16, I didn't understand what you where saying
[05:37] <glitsj16> anom01y: i wanted to say having older hardware isn't a bad thing when moving onto the newer kernel (and the X support that has) in jaunty
[05:37] <RichiV> Can someone help me get wine to run guild wars so i can play it and at least see the menu?
[05:37] <agoole> lstarnes: seems like the chanel is idle, do you think you could answer a quick question ?
[05:37] <doc_brown> ok i found my hdd that i suspect is unhealthy.  its called /dev/sdb  HOW can I check the 'health' of this drive?  fskc or something ?
[05:38] <lstarnes> agoole: I wouldn't know I knew what the question was
[05:38] <anom01y> glitsj16, I was considering putting back in my old nvidia 5700 and taking this 6200 back to the computer store and getting my $60 back
[05:38] <agoole> lstarnes: know anything about logically sorting data in excel or calc ?
[05:38] <anom01y> because I was running the 5700 with compiz fusion for a year now
[05:39] <lstarnes> agoole: not really
[05:39] <agoole> lstarnes: ok thanks anyways
[05:39] <glitsj16> anom01y: if you do go the upgrade way, make sure your 8.04 is fully updated before moving to 8.10 and same thing there before jumping onto 9.04
[05:40]  * Jeruvy would not upgrade a LTS with a non-LTS for the record.
[05:41] <RichiV> what do u guys suggest about getting Beryl?
[05:41] <RichiV> worth it?
[05:41] <lstarnes> RichiV: I think compiz-fusion replaced beryl
[05:42] <ienorand> RichiV: lstarnes : that's what I though as well...
[05:42] <n2diy> Anybody know how to set up a notebook, so, in case it is stolen, it will "phone home" and report its location?
[05:42] <RichiV> lstarnes: whats compiz version?
[05:42] <RichiV> compiz fusion
[05:42] <lstarnes> RichiV: what do you mean?
[05:42] <RichiV> what is it?
[05:42] <lstarnes> RichiV: what is compiz-fusion?
[05:42] <RichiV> yeah
[05:43] <RichiV> lol sorr cant type today
[05:43] <lstarnes> RichiV: compiz-fusion is a compositing window manager like beryl
[05:43] <dan> Hi guys.
[05:43] <ienorand> RichiV: "Beryl has been re-merged back with Compiz and mostly appears in the form of the extra Compiz Fusion plugins." << from c-f homepage
[05:43] <ienorand> dan: hia dan
[05:43] <RichiV> mk thnx
[05:44] <dan> Why is it that I can't find the Epiphany web browser after I installed it?
[05:44] <RichiV> is it worth getting? the multiple desktops?
[05:44] <RichiV> oh and how do I remove wine?
[05:44] <Roasted> RichiV - Compiz FUsion doesn't handle multiple desktops. Multiple desktops are already included as part of Ubuntu.
[05:44] <n2diy> dan, can you run it from terminal?
[05:44] <lstarnes> RichiV: the default window manager should have support for switching between multiple desktops
[05:44] <dan> I dunno how.
[05:44] <ienorand> RichiV: I don't personally use the multiple desktops that much, but I swaer bu the scale plugin.
[05:44] <RichiV> mk
[05:44] <bullgard4> What command line command is equivalent to clicking Location > Connect to Server...?
[05:44] <Roasted> RichiV - Compiz Fusion is simply eye candy built on top of everything, allowing you to switch from one workspace to another with 3d flipping and whatnot.
[05:45] <RichiV> so basically it controlls the shortcuts?
[05:45] <pantang> hey can someone spare a lil time and talk me through installing mesa? already got it extracted, and im pretty sure libdrm is install but it wont compile :(
[05:45] <n2diy> dan, open a terminal, and type epiphany.
[05:45] <RichiV> and graphics ok thnx
[05:45] <ienorand> dan: it doesn't show up in the internet submenu?
[05:45] <Roasted> RichiV - Sort of. Compiz Fusion has a tremendous amount of features in it, but honestly I don't use any of them in my regular day to day computing.
[05:45] <RichiV> i prob wont use it then I wanna keep my RAM for gaming
[05:45] <dan> oh okay thanks.
[05:45] <dan> it worked.
[05:45] <anom01y> !dist-upgrade
[05:45] <RichiV> ok so can anyone help me uninstall wine?
[05:45] <Roasted> RichiV - I find I use the keyboard shortcuts (found in system - preferences - keyboard shortcuts) a lot more. B ut it's still cool to show it off to a Windows fanboy once in a while :)
[05:46] <Roasted> RichiV - sudo apt-get uninstall wine? Maybe? Been about 2 yrs since I used wine...
[05:46] <lstarnes> RichiV: sudo aptitude remove wine (replace remove with purge if you want to also remove config files)
[05:46] <RichiV> Roasted: I see, I set it for alt- f1 and alt- f2 to switch between workspacs
[05:46] <RichiV> ok  i need to know how use the terminal
[05:46] <ienorand> RichiV: you might also have to remove the .wine folder in your home directory after that...
[05:46] <pantang> keep gettin this error http://pastebin.com/m79ea7e2b
[05:46] <User2005> Any way to correct a tracker error ?
[05:47] <dan> Yay Xkcd is updated :D
[05:47] <Roasted> RichiV - The Terminal is very similar to Window's command prompt. Linux just uses it al ittle more extensively.
[05:47] <ubuntunoob> if i download vlc, will I also have to downoald codecs?
[05:47] <ienorand> RichiV: you could probably uninstall using the add/remove thing, or synaptic....
[05:47] <Roasted> RichiV - Open it under Applications - Accessories - Terminal. Type "sudo apt-get remove wine" and type in your password when prompted.
[05:47] <lstarnes> ubuntunoob: you might need to
[05:47] <Roasted> RichiV - As ienorand  said, you could uninstall it via Synaptic which might be a smoother wya to get started with removing wine.
[05:47] <ubuntunoob> ok
[05:47] <shauns_> pantang: follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=487735
[05:48] <Roasted> RichiV - You can open Sy naptic Package Manager under system - administration - synaptic package manager. Search for wine, and uncheck it and hit the apply button at the top.
[05:48] <User2005> nuts...
[05:48] <pantang> yeah i did all that, but for some reason its not compiling properly
[05:48] <n2diy> Roasted: no, you have to mark it for removal.
[05:48] <ienorand> RichiV: You don't have to use it, but it's preferable when handing out instructions like this, just a single line of commands and you're done, rather  than guide through several windows of choices...
[05:48] <RichiV> ok thnx alot, but i already used the terminal
[05:48] <shauns_> what error are you getting?
[05:49] <pantang> http://pastebin.com/m79ea7e2b
[05:49] <pantang> makedepend not found :(
[05:49] <setz> hey whats up
[05:49] <Roasted> right
[05:49] <RichiV> WOW i love how ubuntu works
[05:50] <lstarnes> pantang: install the xutils-dev package
[05:50] <ienorand> RichiV: don't we all :)
[05:50] <RichiV> virtual box i take it is not all that great?
[05:50] <peaches> virtual box is pretty good
[05:51] <ienorand> RichiV: It's pretty good I'd say...
[05:51] <BunnySkankin> how do i use virtualbox
[05:51]  * baughtman loves Vbox
[05:51] <RichiV> good for gaming?
[05:51] <Roasted> RichiV - I heard of a very good qu ote recently on the UbuntuForums that really spoke very profoundly about Linux.
[05:51] <thomasite> Hello. I have just downloaded the ISO file for 9.04 to my Desktop. I followed the instructions to mount it on my laptop (since I don't have a CD) but after that, nothing happens. I double-clicked on the "cdrom" but when I clicked on the "Open with Autorun Prompt," a message saying "Cannot find autorun program" appears. What do I have to do to use the ISO? Thanks!
[05:51] <peaches> RichiV: light gaming
[05:51] <pantang> k doing that now, cheers get back to you in a mo :D
[05:51] <Roasted> RichiV - "For those who understand Linux, no explanation is necessary. For those who do not, no explanation is sufficient."
[05:51] <RichiV> lol nice quote
[05:51] <ubuntunoob> can I pause a download in terminal? i have to leave and I am downloading vlc
[05:51] <RichiV> well weve alll gone thru the last part of that quote
[05:51] <peaches> RichiV: i know eh haha
[05:51] <baughtman> Roasted, mind if i take that? ........... SOOOOOOO true
[05:52] <Roasted> Baughtman - take it? Ha, sure. It's not my quote. It's from a poster on UbuntuForums who responded to one of my threads recently.
[05:52] <peaches> i played quake live in virtual box full screen. got some lag dunno if it was virtualbox or network but relatively playable
[05:52] <ienorand> ubuntunoob: are you using wget?
[05:52] <n2diy> ubuntunoob: let cook, you don't have to be there.
[05:52] <RichiV> wait so where do i delete the wine folder?
[05:52] <RichiV> in what home folder?
[05:52] <lstarnes> RichiV: rm -r ~/.wine
[05:53] <ienorand> RichiV: /home/yourloginname/.wine
[05:53] <pantang> k its goin crazy now doesn't look like errors this time tho
[05:53] <Roasted> RichiV - the wine folder is a hidden folder in your home directory. You can visually see the wine folder if you go to "view" then show hidden files.
[05:53] <ubuntunoob> i used this command
[05:53] <ubuntunoob> sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:53] <RichiV> ok thnx
[05:53] <ienorand> RichiV: note the dot before the folder name indicating that it is hidden
[05:53] <n2diy> ubuntunoob: so let it cook.
[05:53] <RichiV> ok nice
[05:54] <RichiV> this is so useful
[05:54] <ubuntunoob> well im at a coffeshop and i cant leaave my laptop here haha
[05:54] <RichiV> is there a perma delet like in windows Shift-Del
[05:54] <lstarnes> RichiV: rm is permanent
[05:54] <PLyTheMan> thomasite: I've had teh same problem, I'm just doing that alternate iso now and updating
[05:54] <RichiV> lol i wanna kinda stick with navigation
[05:55] <Roasted> RichiV - just be careful using the rm command...
[05:55] <RichiV> until i find a good book, or class to learn linux from
[05:55] <Roasted> dont wanna delete something on accident
[05:55] <setz> Hey I have a minor issue I was wondering if anyone could help me with
[05:55] <ienorand> RichiV: shift+del works in the file browser
[05:55] <thomasite> PLyTheMan: How are you planning to solve the problem?
[05:55] <n2diy> ubuntunoob: Ok, that is a problem, if you can get to your download manager, you can pause it, but I can never remember how to get to it.
[05:55] <Roasted> I'm a fast typer and I often type faster than my mind thinks... I've deleted a folder here or there that I didnt mean to
[05:55] <PLyTheMan> thomasite: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading are instructions for updating with the Alternate iso
[05:55] <matt> Is it possible to get function buttons to work on an MS keyboard?
[05:55] <setz> I was removing packages I don't use (like the gnome desktop) and replaced some things, one thing I removed was gnome-utils, which included the dictionary
[05:55] <ssm> matt: often, yes
[05:55] <glitsj16> RichiV: in a GUI file manager Shift)Del on ubuntu has the same effect yes
[05:55] <Roasted> ienorand - Does shift+del work with folders that might have different permissions? Or do permissions still apply?
[05:55] <PLyTheMan> thomasite: I'm just trying to work around it, no idea what the issue is
[05:55] <setz> I've since re-installed the package, but programs like pidgin, and xchat are still saying every word is spelled wrong
[05:55] <RichiV> ok thnx
[05:56] <RichiV> is XFburn good?
[05:56] <ienorand> Roasted: permissions are enforced, of course.
[05:56] <glitsj16> Roasted: permissions always apply
[05:56] <Roasted> Can Ubuntu read/write Mac OSX file system?
[05:56] <RichiV> i wanna back up some movies
[05:56] <setz> Does anyone know what the issue could be?
[05:56] <ubuntunoob> ok, thanks.. Ill just start over when I can
[05:56] <Roasted> I figured they did - but I thought, why not ask :P
[05:56] <RichiV> for some trips
[05:56] <Roasted> RichiV - I use K3B for all of my burning needs. Brasero is also very nice too.
[05:56] <thomasite> PLyTheMan: Okay. Thanks.
[05:56] <ienorand> Roasted: that thing only decides weather or not it is removed, or moved to the trash
[05:56] <sacarlson> I can't seem to open a terminal window in Ubuntu version 8.04 it was working last night and I havn't even turned this computer off.  Window opens with just a white block no cuser.
[05:56] <Roasted> ienorand - good tip. Thanks!
[05:56] <RichiV> but what abou copy protection? thats always a pain
[05:57] <PLyTheMan> thomasite: sure thing, hope that works for you... I've got ~20 minutes till mine is updated
[05:57] <InCrypto> mornin everyone
[05:57] <Roasted> RichiV - I'm not positive to be honest. Wont hurt to try :P
[05:57] <ienorand> RichiV: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html << I've not looked into it but it seems a pretty decent book on ubuntu...
[05:57] <RichiV> ok kool
[05:57] <RichiV> thnx ienorand ill make myself a copy
[05:57] <InCrypto> i just upgraded to 9/04 from 8.10 ...everythin wrks fine :) ..except that my dual display is screwwd ...and i cant seem 2 activate the nvidia drivers
[05:57] <Roasted> RichiV - how recently did you start on Ubuntu?
[05:58] <RichiV> lol like last night
[05:58] <Roasted> InCrypto - Did you UPGRADE to 9.04 or do a fresh install?
[05:58] <InCrypto> i get this error everytime i boot the machine
[05:58] <RichiV> im nub to this, but i'm learnign fast
[05:58] <n2diy> sacarlson: check your foreground color, it may have changed to white?
[05:58] <Roasted> RichiV - Good stuff. I've been on Ubuntu for 3-4 years now... I love it.
[05:58] <InCrypto> Roasted, an update
[05:58] <InCrypto> upgrade*
[05:58] <RichiV> mm i see
[05:58] <RichiV> i've known about ubuntu for a while i think since 7.10
[05:59] <InCrypto> any idea why i cannot activate the new 180 drivers ?
[05:59] <RichiV> not to long ago, just never got around to installing it
[05:59] <Roasted> RichiV - I actually recently set up an Ubuntu desktop at work to run as an imaging software with some open soruce cloning softwaer. IT runs like a champ. It's so nice grabbing a spare PC on the shelf, throwing a free OS and a free cloning software on it and being able to re-image a lab (school district) in a half hour.
[05:59] <RichiV> and ITS GR8
[05:59] <Roasted> InCrypto - I didnt upgrade to 9.04, I did a fresh install... but I'm running dual screen with Nvidia drivers... I picked the 180 drivers out of the hardware device manager.
[05:59] <RichiV> lol nice roasted
[05:59] <unkmar> Ingredients: Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, Outlook Express imported emails via Kmail, mutt.  I have been unable to figure out how to read my emails with anything other than kmail.
[05:59] <RichiV> well i gtg diner thnx for the help
[05:59] <Roasted> Take it easy RichiV
[05:59] <Roasted> happy Ubuntu-ing
[06:00] <InCrypto> Roasted, i see ..i did a fresh install and it wrked fine for me 2 ...but not with the upgrade
[06:00] <RichiV> oh last question how do i save my files to a different location rather than desktop
[06:00] <unkmar> I am very cli oriented and would like to learn to use mutt for handling my emails.
[06:00] <RichiV> its in prefferences?
[06:00] <RichiV> of mozilla?
[06:00] <PLyTheMan> would reading this book, Unix Complete ( http://www.amazon.com/UNIX-Complete-Peter-Dyson/dp/078212528X ) be a good place to start understanding whats going on with ubuntu and bash?
[06:00] <Roasted> RichiV - all files download to desktop by default. I just move them afterwards. This is at least what I experienced anyway.
[06:00] <unkmar> RichiV: which mozilla? seamonkey or firefox?  and yes. it is in the settings.
[06:00] <ienorand> Roasted: Backups was actually the reason I got into GNU/Linux, I started on SystemRescueCD though, great stuff, although somewhat heavy...
[06:01] <unkmar> Roasted: RichiV you can change the default download location.  I created a 0-dl folder and use it.
[06:01] <n2diy> RichiV, yes, prefrences.
[06:01] <Roasted> ienorand - Yeah, I really dig what I can do in Linux. I still live at home, and I have 2 brothers who each have a computer along with the main family computer. I put some free software on their comptuers to auto-sync their my documents to their password protected Samba shares on my computer at 3 am every morning.
[06:02] <Roasted> Then, using an rsync script along with crontab, I synchronize their stuff from the Samba drive to an identical hard drive in my system.
[06:02] <felipe__> hey
[06:02] <gianni> hoooo
[06:02] <RichiV> its better to do  stable wine versions rite?
[06:02] <ienorand> Roasted: Thats awesomness :)
[06:02] <Roasted> So ultimately, I have 4 drives in my system. 1 as main for me to use. the 2nd for a backup of my home directory. The 3rd is a samba drive. The 4th copies the samba drive. All automated. All by 1 little script with crontab and the use of samba networking.
[06:02] <Roasted> ienorand - And I had to put it to use recently. My brothers 11 year old PC crashed... had all hsi stuff backed up though!
[06:03] <unkmar> I want to import my kmail or Outlook Express emails for use with mutt.
[06:03] <ienorand> Roasted: I started using it to take snapshots of windows installs, basically ghosting....
[06:03] <Roasted> InCrypto - I'm not too sure, man. I always do fresh installs versus upgrades just to avoid any issues. But I cant imagine why youd have problems downloading the latest drivers in the repos......
[06:03] <Roasted> But you never know.
[06:04] <InCrypto> This is the error i get in /var/log/xorg.0
[06:04] <InCrypto> EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[06:04] <InCrypto> (EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
[06:04] <InCrypto> (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
[06:04] <InCrypto> (II) UnloadModule: "wfb"
[06:04] <InCrypto> (II) UnloadModule: "fb"
[06:04] <FloodBot2> InCrypto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:04] <thomasite> Please help me. I can't use the ISO file that I downloaded. :(
[06:04] <ienorand> Roasted: Just such a great thing to know that a virus isn't really that big of an issue, I can revert the system in like an hour or so :D
[06:04] <Roasted> ienorand - I havent used systemrescueCD... I use Clonezilla LiveCD though for taking individual snapshots of windows installs. In fact I have one of Vista for my main computer here in case my main drive ever dies, I can pull the Vista image, install 9.04, then pull my backup data with all of my music, pictures, hidden folders iwth my preferences, etc and I'm back in biz.
[06:04] <thomasite> I need to upgrade to 9.04.
[06:05] <Roasted> ienorand - Have you ever looked at FOG?
[06:05] <unkmar> thomasite: which iso did you download?
[06:05] <ienorand> Roasted: Not heard of it actually...
[06:05] <thomasite> unkmar: the ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[06:06] <Roasted> ienorand - FOG is an open source cloning utility that can be used over networks. It's free and built on top of Fedora or Ubuntu. I've been using it for 2 months at work. I work at a school district so I have a lot of computers to manage.
[06:06] <pantang> ok so far so good, wich file do i need to change the paths in tho?
[06:06] <Roasted> ienorand - I managed to re-image a lab of 30 computers across a gigabit switch in 35 minutes... the image was 7gb in size.
[06:06] <unkmar> thomasite: I may be wrong, but my understanding is that the alternate iso is used for upgrades.
[06:06] <InCrypto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/165858/
[06:06] <sacarlson> n2diy: foreground color?  I don't see any control to change it.  When I try to close the window it pops up with a mesage to force close not responding.
[06:06] <thomasite> unkmar: Please elaborate. I don
[06:07] <InCrypto> THIS IS wht i get in logs
[06:07] <anom01y> ANNOUNCEMENT i FIXED MY COMPUTER
[06:07] <PLyTheMan> thomasite: fwiw, you can upgrade from System > Admin > Update Manager
[06:07] <anom01y> nvidia works fine
[06:07] <PLyTheMan> I think >_>
[06:07] <thomasite> unkmar: I'm sorry I don't fully understand. My laptop runs on 8.10 and I have already updated everything. I thought that by downloading that ISO, I can just easily click on it and then I could switch to 9.04.
[06:08] <pantang> im a tool, ignore me :P
[06:08] <doc_brown> ANOUNCEMENT!  I DIDNT FIX MINE
[06:08] <gianni> hooooooo
[06:08] <thomasite> PLyTheMan: I did run Update Manager and the 9.04 upgrade did not appear. :(
[06:08] <Roasted> thomasite - I understand what you're thinking, but it's not entirely accurate. You can upgrade to 9.04 through the update manager. There's an option that'll say there's a new dsitrobution version available. You can also take that ISO, burn it to a CD as an image, boot to it, and install Ubuntu 9.04 from scrathc.
[06:08] <n2diy> sacarlson: ok, I'm running Xubuntu, so I can't check for you, but I thought there was a color selection? Force the quit, and restart, maybe that will fix it?
[06:08] <Roasted> thomasite - Did you upgrade to 9.04 on accident and not realize it, perhaps?????
[06:08] <PLyTheMan> thomasite: I think it should say it at the top of the window
[06:09] <Roasted> thomasite - PlyTheMan is right, it'll be a button at the top of the manager... Up towards the X to exit the window.
[06:09] <chuck_> thomasite; try sudo update-manager -d enjoy
[06:09] <chuck_> in terminal of course
[06:09] <PLyTheMan> thomasite: if you want to mount an iso and do it from there, you need to get the Alternate install CD halfway down this page: http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/9.04/
[06:10] <ienorand> Roasted: That does sound nice, although I'm quite getting to like piping ntfsclone and all that, but I migh tempt my dad into using that, since he's a huge ghost fan and hasn't really caught on SystemRescueCD...
[06:10] <PLyTheMan> thomasite: then follow the "Upgrading from Alternate CD" here : http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[06:10] <PLyTheMan> thats what I'm doing right now =D
[06:11] <sacarlson> n2diy: I tried that 6 times already forced kill open again.  I haven't loged out yet or rebooted.
[06:12] <sacarlson> n2diy: without a terminal window I can look at any /var/log files to see what is wrong.
[06:12] <Roasted> ienorand - I definitely recommend testing FOG on a spare machine. I dual boot my laptop at work and Ubuntu is configured with FOG there. I also have a small library of basic XP and 2000 Pro images from the computers I commonly run across with teachers.
[06:12] <thomasite> Roasted, PLyTheMan, chuck: I actually followed the directions at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading. I downloaded the ISO and mounted it using the procedure described in that guide. But nothing happens.
[06:13] <Roasted> ienorand - My office is in the HS, which is about 5-10 miles from the other 3 schools I manage. I went to a teachers room the other day cause he called me. BSOD. The drive failed. I carry 2 hard drives on me at all times. Popped a new one in, pushed the 2.5gb XP image to his computer, and within 5 minutes he had XP Pro, Office 03, Flash 10, REader 9, Java 6, IE7, virus scanner, and all the basic stuff a teacher would need on a comput
[06:13] <Roasted> er.
[06:13] <thomasite> Roasted, PlyTheMan, chuck: Or am I not getting it? Where am I supposed to download the Alternate Installation CD?
[06:13] <n2diy> sacarlson: um, ok, are you sure? Try typing "nano" in the terminal, and see if it opens?
[06:13] <PLyTheMan> thomasite: was it the right iso though?  if you're updating you need the Alternate, I'll get the link for you
[06:14] <sacarlson> n2diy: nope nano faile to open any new windows
[06:14] <thomasite> PLyTheMan: I think it wasn't. Because the name of the file is desktop-i386.iso. Ugh. I made a terrible, terrible mistake (?).
[06:14] <n2diy> sacarlson: and the hard drive didn't do anything? Logout and in.
[06:14] <sacarlson> n2diy: maybe a keyring thing?  how do you kill or stop the keyring
[06:15] <PLyTheMan> thomasite: pick a server here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate pick the version you want from the list.  Then scroll down that page till you see "Alternate install CD" and DL from there
[06:15] <n2diy> sacarlson: what keyring?
[06:15] <sacarlson> all other aplications are working like this one
[06:15] <sacarlson> n2diy: some keyring thing that memorises passwords
[06:16] <sacarlson> n2diy: not passwords but keys
[06:17] <n1c0> hi to everyone, i've two question to do
[06:17] <n2diy> sacarlson: ok, so this is a security issue.
[06:17] <thomasite> PLyTheMan: Thanks a lot. Now I know why it's not working. I downloaded the wrong file! :(
[06:17] <ienorand> Roasted: That's really nice, I haven't really looked into any larger scale things, since I only ever backup my own laptop, but at home we have several win machines that could use some imaging...
[06:17] <sacarlson> n2diy: well I can't tell since there is no terminal that opens but that's one of the first things that runs
[06:17] <chuck_> thomasite; if you want the cd do as Plytheman say's if you just want to upgrade open a terminal window and type "sudo update-manager -d and it will do the work for you
[06:18] <n2diy> sacarlson: ok, did you log out and in?
[06:18] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 9.04, GNOME 2.26] Does the 'System' menu show now only 5 menu items,  'Quit...' has been deleted?  (Compared with Ubuntu 8.10)
[06:18] <sacarlson> n2diy: no I'll do that now.  if that fails I will reboot.  chat ya all later.
[06:19] <sacarlson> n2diy: and thanks
[06:19] <n2diy> sacarlson: GL
[06:19] <Roasted> ienorand - I have a couple hundred computers to deal with, which makes FOG (very similar to Ghost) very handy... but once you use FOG once or twice, you realize how it can be useful on a smaller scale too. I don't know if I'd use FOG for 1 computer, but if you have 3+ in the house, why not?
[06:19] <Roasted> ienorand - What I'm going to do from now on is if/when a computer fails in the house, I'll set up a basic XP image and save it on file. That way I have a basic XP image handy + their documents on my samba server. If the drive fails again, pop a new one in, deploy the basic XP image, pull the documents down... all done!
[06:20] <khensthoth> bullgard4: Yes.   I just restarted my laptop with 9.04... lets see if it cleared up my internet connection problems
[06:22] <LUP0> ciao
[06:22] <ienorand> Roasted: The great thing about imaging is that you can improve them as well, since there is inevitably load of things you forget on the first go, just note the missing items down and the next time you revert you add all the missing stuff and make a new image.
[06:22] <LUP0> !list
[06:22] <LUP0> !bot
[06:22] <Roasted> ienorand - Yeah, and even with me at work... I have about 15 images of different computers that we have in the district... and even managing 15 images isn't ab ad thing. I just have a checklist.
[06:23] <wanna_learn_more> hi
[06:23] <wanna_learn_more> ubuntu 9.10 already released?
[06:23] <wanna_learn_more> i am waiting for it
[06:23] <Roasted> ienorand - For example, if I realize that a new version of Flash comes out, I'll install it 1 time on each new computer that comse in that needs reimaged and save it. Once I eventually cycle through all 15 images, I check them off and I'm good to go.
[06:23] <Roasted> 9.10 is not out
[06:23] <Roasted> 9.04 is
[06:23] <wanna_learn_more> u mean ubuntu janty?
[06:23] <Roasted> 9.10 = 2009, October (10th month)
[06:23] <Roasted> 9.04 = Ubuntu Jaunty
[06:23] <wanna_learn_more> !jaunty
[06:23] <Roasted> 9.04 was released April 23rd.
[06:23] <wanna_learn_more> thanks :)
[06:24] <PLyTheMan> Okay, can someone help me set up my internet...  Its been broken since I upgraded from Hardy this afternoon.  It autoconnects to my neighbor's wifi, but under 'Wired Network' it says "Device not managed" even though I have a line connected to it
[06:24] <ienorand> wanna_learn_more: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[06:24] <cgkades> i like my 8.10
[06:24] <ienorand> I like my 9.10 :P
[06:24] <PLyTheMan> I'd like 9.10 if I could get it to connect to my wired network
[06:25] <cgkades> wouldnt expect that to be a problem lol
[06:25] <n1c0> first of all i'm sorry for my bad english, i'm italian. My first question is: how can i do for setting my video resolution better into shell command? The gui denied me to set my default resolution of 1280x1024. This choice isn't in list.
[06:25] <cgkades> i'm not doing the upgrade
[06:25] <cgkades> every time i've tried the upgrade feature, it's bricked my system
[06:26] <chris8> hey help pls wif Wifi:  my wifi disconx and i can't reconnect it... under Connection Properties it just says disconx and no way to reconnect.  I've installed WiFi Radar but it fails to load when i'm disconx... what can i do?
[06:26] <bc> geez, this many years and sensors aren't picked up. -_-
[06:26] <anom01y> hey guyz
[06:26] <Sergey> cgkades: release upgrade or just upgrade? =)
[06:26] <doc_brown> anyone want to help me test my external hard drive (this can't be THAT difficult) go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7229978#post7229978
[06:27] <cgkades> sergey: anytime i've tried to do the upgrade via the update manager
[06:27] <x25> hola
[06:27] <cgkades> in any linux distro
[06:27] <x25> alguien en epañol
[06:27] <cgkades> i had to fix a co-workers computer
[06:27] <cgkades> he upgraded, and it bricked
[06:27] <Sergey> cgkades: weird... may be I should disable my automatic security updates =)
[06:27] <Doof_> posso hablar en portugues
[06:27] <cgkades> sergey: no, updates are different
[06:28] <ienorand> !po
[06:28] <chris8> help pls: my wifi diconnects and doesn't reconnect even though setting is "automatic"... i've installed Wifi Radar but it fails to load when i don't have a web connection
[06:28] <cgkades> chris8: have you tried the ubuntu forums?
[06:28] <doc_brown> smack!
[06:28] <chris8> Cgkades:  I can't read.
[06:28] <Sergey> cgkades: hope so =) Although I've done quite a few upgrades (through apt-get) and still working fine... =) May be I'm lucky...
[06:29] <Doof_> x25 tien problemas?
[06:29] <chris8> Cgkades: actually i can't get WiFi Radar to run at all...
[06:29] <chris8> ???
[06:29] <mpontillo> !pr | Doof_
[06:29] <cgkades> sergey: i'm talking about the upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04
[06:29] <mpontillo> !pt | Doof_
[06:29] <Sergey> cgkades: tried that too, and worked =) although not on production system =)
[06:30] <Sergey> cgkades: and only once =)
[06:30] <ienorand> cgkades: might want to test out the fresh install.
[06:30] <Reticenti> I just installed Wubi Ubuntu on XP, and when I load it up, everything freezes except my mouse, which moves very slowly. ctrl-alt-bkspc, ctrl-alt-f1, etc doesnt do anything. I am on a tablet laptop
[06:30] <cgkades> sergey: yeah, i've never had it work on a configured and tweaked system. i just wait till it's "necessary" then back up everything, note what programs i want, and then do a fresh install
[06:30] <Sergey> cgkades: but will know for future reference that I need to make an image before doin that...
[06:31] <Doof_> sorry
[06:31] <Sergey> cgkades: yeah, that can take some time...
[06:31] <Sergey> cgkades:LTS rules =)
[06:31] <georgep> whats the rm command to remove a dir and all subdirs and files within the dir?
[06:31] <cgkades> ienorand: yeah i usually do fresh installs, i had to on a co-workers computer
[06:31] <ienorand> georgep: dangerous!! : rm -r
[06:32] <Doof_> So where can I go to report working hardware for 9.04?
[06:32] <georgep> why is that dangerous, I mean i just unpacked a tarball in opt but now want to remove that dir
[06:32] <gaozhenbo> what is ubuntu"s newest edition
[06:32] <Reticenti> gaozhenbo: 9.04
[06:32] <Reticenti> gaozhenbo: but there are newer beta's
[06:32] <chuck_> rm- r when it's gone it's gone forever
[06:33] <Sergey> georgep: if you run something like "rm -r /" - that's dangerous.
[06:33] <cgkades> georgep: rm -rf is more dangerous, but you have to be carefull, because it will remove EVERYTHING from that dir and all sub dirs
[06:33] <unkmar> georgep: because, if the wrong location is your target for rm -rf you can lose everything.
[06:33] <Reticenti> I just installed Wubi Ubuntu on XP, and when I load it up, everything freezes except my mouse, which moves very slowly. ctrl-alt-bkspc, ctrl-alt-f1, etc doesnt do anything. I am on a tablet laptop
[06:33] <cgkades> ^what everyone said
[06:33] <cgkades> :)
[06:33] <Sergey> georgep: or if you think that youre in folder a,b ut you're in /b
[06:33] <chetnick> i just realized how much faster Ubuntu launches apps from panel than from AWN, amazing, blaaazing fast.
[06:34] <knoxville> how would I go about this Next, you must set up a route on the server-side LAN gateway to route the VPN client subnet (<IP_ADDRESS>/24) to the OpenVPN server?
[06:34] <chetnick> there is always some delay with awn, but not at all with panel.
[06:34] <Caivax> Hi....  What commercial antivirus for linux do you recommend for production servers?
[06:34] <shadeslayer> hi i need some help with a script.whats the commandd to make a user enter something?
[06:34] <cgkades> openvpn = a pain in the ass
[06:34] <shadeslayer> *command
[06:35] <unkmar> shadeslayer: read variablename
[06:35] <sparr> is upgrading from ext3 to ext4 the best way to get a good defrag tool?
[06:35] <unkmar> shadeslayer: that assumes bash.